| 00:00.14 | pyther | Well I server a multicast video stream via vlc on the server |
| 00:00.20 | pyther | and I'll have a samba share |
| 00:00.36 | abrotman | mederEsite: i guess i don't understand your questoin |
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| 00:01.03 | pyther | So how frequently is sid updated? |
| 00:01.08 | pyther | daily, weekly, monthly? |
| 00:01.39 | abrotman | a few times a day .. but it is NOT for normal users |
| 00:01.46 | abrotman | things break, sometimes very badly |
| 00:02.00 | pyther | :( |
| 00:02.29 | pyther | Hmm I wonder how hard it would be to backport vlc to lenny |
| 00:02.35 | abrotman | pyther: why not just use squeeze? |
| 00:02.50 | themill | wonders what sort of server this is |
| 00:02.50 | abrotman | it has a newer VLC than lenny, and it is less broken typically |
| 00:03.09 | pyther | well what is squeeze, I'm not very familiar with debian's release cycles |
| 00:03.17 | \amethyst | !testing |
| 00:03.17 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
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| 00:04.05 | abrotman | !tell pyther about squeeze |
| 00:04.08 | abrotman | !tell pyther about lenny-squeeze |
| 00:04.50 | pyther | So I know there are all the warnings, but how is squeeze, is it likely it'll break? |
| 00:05.37 | Pingfloyd | hmm, I thought they support testing security these days |
| 00:05.39 | pyther | I'm a very skilled linux user |
| 00:05.42 | abrotman | pyther: generally 'testing' is more stable than 'unstable' |
| 00:05.46 | abrotman | Pingfloyd: they do-ish |
| 00:05.51 | \amethyst | some packages are often uninstallable in testing for weeks at a time |
| 00:05.52 | themill | Pingfloyd: not since the lenny release. Stay tuned. |
| 00:05.55 | abrotman | Pingfloyd: usually not til closer to release |
| 00:06.04 | abrotman | \amethyst: only nvidia! :) |
| 00:06.07 | \amethyst | while transitions are happening |
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| 00:06.20 | Pingfloyd | is the testing security factoid behind? |
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| 00:06.32 | \amethyst | I guess I put my qualifiers in the wrong order: often, some packages are... |
| 00:06.44 | themill | Pingfloyd: no.... |
| 00:07.03 | abrotman | \amethyst: dunno, i don't usually have problems .. but i guess i don't install random packages often |
| 00:07.19 | pyther | Can anyone compare Fedora vs Squeeze in terms of stability? |
| 00:07.35 | \amethyst | abrotman: you've not seen packages removed from testing to help a transition go through? |
| 00:08.04 | abrotman | sure .. but it's usually something that i don't use much or it was installed out of curiousity and the maintainer is MIA |
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| 00:08.24 | abrotman | \amethyst: honestly, i can't remember the last time something disappeared that i cared about |
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| 00:08.34 | abrotman | (something that wasn't orphaned i guess) |
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| 00:09.31 | craigevil | there are a few packages that are in stable and sid that arent in testing, xpdf comes to mind |
| 00:10.03 | abrotman | dpkg: why is xpdf not in testing |
| 00:10.03 | dpkg | xpdf is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=xpdf |
| 00:10.15 | abrotman | well it has new bugs |
| 00:10.22 | abrotman | oh, it violates policy |
| 00:10.34 | themill | abrotman: broken beyond all recognition, were the words you were looking for |
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| 00:10.44 | abrotman | FUBAR? |
| 00:11.06 | themill | that too |
| 00:11.12 | abrotman | craigevil: though, i rarely use xpdf anymore .. i used to, but evince is pretty good now |
| 00:11.12 | adrakoa | my problem's python-gnome2-extras, which it uses libgdl-1-0 what won't be installed. |
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| 00:12.16 | pyther | Debian 6 isn't coming out any time soon is it? |
| 00:12.31 | mederEsite1 | why do you need the latest vlc |
| 00:12.42 | themill | dpkg: tell pyther about wwsr |
| 00:12.49 | craigevil | went from kpdf>evince>okular, okular is the only one that remembers the last opened page in a e-book |
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| 00:13.41 | pyther | mederEsite1, because I know it works and what limited documentation there is is all for the newer version of vlc |
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| 00:14.45 | abrotman | pyther: squeeze will be 6.0 |
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| 00:15.43 | pyther | abrotman, is it generally stable and not broken? |
| 00:16.46 | abrotman | pyther: generally .. KDE blew up last week .. but it was just for two days |
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| 00:18.45 | pyther | Hmm... I think I need something a bit more stable than that. I'll only be able to update the box monthly so I can't risk a big possible breakage |
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| 00:20.46 | abrotman | pyther: well, sid is 'unstable' and certainly less stable than testing |
| 00:20.53 | gnufun | Hello all! I was wondering if anyone has run into this same issue. This is an new install of Lenny. To get wireless internet up and running on my laptop, I needed to install the b43 driver (apt-get install b43-fwcutter ) following the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi. I did (ifconfig wlan0 up ) and after a while (for some reason there was about a 20 minute delay) it worked perfectly for about half a day until I accident |
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| 00:27.47 | abrotman | gnufun: you got cut off |
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| 00:30.47 | gnufun | abrotman: oh wow. At what point? |
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| 00:31.43 | abrotman | ere was about a 20 minute delay) it worked perfectly for about half a day until I acciden |
| 00:31.55 | Zeddy | after i update nvidia with aptitude what i have to do for gfx to take effect? |
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| 00:32.51 | gnufun | abrotman: it worked perfectly for about half a day until I accidently touched the power button for the internal wireless card. I turned it back on and haven't been able to get it working since (it doesn't even "see" any of the wireless networks in the area). I tried restarts, ifconfig down/up. Does anyone have any suggestions? I get the feeling it is something incredibly simple that I am just overlooking. |
| 00:33.33 | abrotman | gnufun: dmesg say anything? |
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| 00:36.00 | gnufun | abrotman: what should I grep for in dmesg ? |
| 00:36.10 | abrotman | just see what happens when you turn it off/on |
| 00:36.38 | Zeddy | no one can help with nvidia? |
| 00:36.44 | Zeddy | :( |
| 00:37.05 | ham5 | did you reload x? |
| 00:37.17 | Zeddy | i restarted pc |
| 00:37.25 | ham5 | module gettin loaded? |
| 00:37.36 | ham5 | check logs? |
| 00:37.49 | ham5 | how do you know they arent getting loaded |
| 00:38.19 | Zeddy | i dont |
| 00:38.28 | Zeddy | i installed with aptitude, i dont really know what it installed |
| 00:38.36 | el-barto | am i alone or no one else can't play avi's after last update? |
| 00:38.36 | Zeddy | i choose correct kernel ect |
| 00:39.01 | el-barto | in testing |
| 00:39.05 | Zeddy | now maybe i need to edit a file or something |
| 00:40.45 | gnufun | abrotman: http://debian.pastebin.com/cdv1UbG1 |
| 00:41.02 | abrotman | el-barto: with which player? |
| 00:41.19 | el-barto | any player can |
| 00:41.30 | abrotman | el-barto: which one are you using? |
| 00:41.34 | abrotman | gnufun: what is hdc ? |
| 00:41.48 | el-barto | kaffeine, vlc, mplayer, kmplayer... |
| 00:42.04 | el-barto | dragon player |
| 00:42.37 | abrotman | el-barto: i just used vlc to play a blender AVI |
| 00:42.51 | abrotman | and another |
| 00:43.26 | el-barto | maybe last update delete me some driver package |
| 00:44.08 | gnufun | abrotman: That is a good question. I just noticed that. This is just a laptop with 1 hd and a cd rom. I am not sure what hdc is |
| 00:44.25 | abrotman | eh .. hopefully it's your CD .. anyways |
| 00:44.48 | abrotman | gnufun: try to unload the module, turn off the wifi, turn on wifi, load module |
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| 00:47.06 | gnufun | abrotman: would that be done using the pid? |
| 00:47.15 | abrotman | which part? |
| 00:47.20 | abrotman | the module? modprobe -r |
| 00:47.40 | gnufun | ahhh yes. that is right. thank you |
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| 00:54.32 | Bop | does anyone manually inserted memtest86+ into grub 2 that can give me a hand ? |
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| 00:56.47 | gnufun | abrotman: Similar result. http://debian.pastebin.com/JSXTZmT1 |
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| 00:57.29 | abrotman | is it using ssb or b43 ? |
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| 01:00.35 | gnufun | abrotman: I assumed it was using the b43. That is the driver that I came up with from looking up the results of lspci |
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| 01:02.38 | abrotman | gnufun: lspci -k ? |
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| 01:03.33 | homekevin | So there's a recent change in grub2 (merged 3 days ago) that makes grub-mkconfig fail with unknown arguments. But the kernel postinst passes it a version and path. |
| 01:03.50 | homekevin | At least I think it does. |
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| 01:04.07 | ham5 | to the guy that cant play avi's anymore... still here?? |
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| 01:04.38 | homekevin | Does everyone have postinst_hook = /usr/sbin/update-grub in /etc/kernel-img.conf? |
| 01:04.40 | mbehlok | anyone know of any good network sniffer for linux? |
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| 01:05.04 | homekevin | mbehlok: Usually people use tcpdump (command line) or wireshark (GUI) |
| 01:05.07 | homekevin | Or both. |
| 01:05.17 | gnufun | abrotman: http://debian.pastebin.com/di4pEmtN |
| 01:05.33 | homekevin | You can capture with tcpdump and read it in wireshark (which is great at picking apart the protocols) |
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| 01:05.38 | mbehlok | homekevin, sux that there is no cain and abel for linux :( |
| 01:05.50 | abrotman | ham5: it was el-barto .. gone now |
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| 01:06.09 | ham5 | ahh thanks abrotman |
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| 01:06.37 | abrotman | gnufun: notice ssb ? |
| 01:06.51 | abrotman | gnufun: if your device is using ssb, you may want to remove/blacklist the b43 |
| 01:07.19 | fio_o2 | hi, how might i get debian to leave my /etc/resolv.conf alone, it keeps getting overwritten by the Dhcp, i would like to stop that since the Dns it provides is incorrect |
| 01:07.20 | abrotman | gnufun: or maybe i'm misreading |
| 01:07.27 | abrotman | fio_o2: man dhclient.conf |
| 01:08.00 | fio_o2 | abrotman, thx |
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| 01:09.20 | homekevin | Unless I'm missing something, this grub2 update is going to make all future kernel updates fail to configure. |
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| 01:09.51 | homekevin | Fortunately it'll be easy to fix, I think |
| 01:09.56 | abrotman | gnufun: maybe i'm reading it wrong .. maybe quickly ask #wireless which driver it might use |
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| 01:10.31 | gnufun | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.05 | abrotman | gnufun: you sohuldn't hve to install a new kernel, it did work |
| 01:13.15 | gnufun | abrotman: Yes it did work until I accidentally hit the little power button for my internal wireless card. |
| 01:13.31 | gnufun | on the side of the laptop |
| 01:13.39 | abrotman | right, i was just saying that so they don't convince you to run around compiling stuff |
| 01:13.58 | gnufun | ahh, yes. thank you |
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| 01:15.33 | Scramblejams | Hi all. Got a 64-bit install of unstable. There are a few 32-bit libs that aren't available in the packaging system (for 64-bit) but I need access to. So I copied them from a 32-bit Debian install into /usr/local/lib. Ran ldconfig, but it doesn't see them. Is that typical? Or should I be able to point ldconfig at 32-bit libs without a problem? |
| 01:16.11 | karsten | homekevin: Perhaps it's a conspiracy by GNU to move us to the HURD. |
| 01:16.23 | homekevin | Probably. |
| 01:16.41 | karsten | Scramblejams: You want 32-bit libs in /emul/ia32-linux/lib |
| 01:16.56 | Scramblejams | Ah ha! Okay, I'll move them there right now. |
| 01:17.16 | karsten | Scramblejams: ... and you get them there by installing ia32-libs. |
| 01:17.42 | karsten | Scramblejams: ... don't fuck around installing libraries by hand into system directories unless you want a very slow, warm tour through hell. |
| 01:18.27 | karsten | Scramblejams: You'll find a symlink in root pointing to your 32-bit libs (which was how I tracked it down just now). |
| 01:18.31 | Scramblejams | ...err... I already have ia32-libs installed. However, they don't include every 32-bit lib under the sun, which is where I'm coming up short. Also, /emul/ia32-linux/lib didn't exist, so I created it and copied them into that directory. Ran ldconfig but it still didn't see them. |
| 01:18.50 | karsten | Scramblejams: Debian's given you an unparalleled packaing system. Use it. |
| 01:19.02 | karsten | Scramblejams: Have you searched via apt-file? |
| 01:19.08 | karsten | !tell Scramblejams about apt-file |
| 01:19.58 | karsten | Scramblejams: If you still can't find them, then I'd suggest doing a source install under /usr/local, and updating /etc/ld.so.conf, /etc/ld/so.conf.d/, or defining an LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable for your 32-bit apps. |
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| 01:20.55 | Scramblejams | Okay, I'll give that a go. Thanks., |
| 01:21.00 | karsten | NP. |
| 01:21.02 | sn00bie | I like turtles |
| 01:21.47 | karsten | Scramblejams: It's just that libs are typically kinda critical to things working right, and if you go around tossing 'em in random directories by hand, you're liable to either clobber something you need, or have what you tossed in there get clobbered by something else. |
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| 01:22.11 | karsten | Scramblejams: I'd suggest you use stow or another source-package management tool if you go that route. |
| 01:22.36 | karsten | Scramblejams: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LibraryArchives-StaticAndDynamic.html gives a bit of background. |
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| 01:26.45 | Scramblejams | karsten, yeah, that's why I started with /usr/local/lib |
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| 01:28.03 | RandomTask_ | Hello is anyone having problems with send/recieve of email in evolution ... it appears greyed out |
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| 01:31.19 | abrotman | did you misenter your password ? |
| 01:31.28 | abrotman | though .. that doesn't make sense |
| 01:32.40 | RandomTask_ | File->Work Online menu is also disabled |
| 01:32.56 | RandomTask_ | it worked until today when i did an apt-get update |
| 01:33.19 | RandomTask_ | It's not even attempting to contact my smtp/pop server |
| 01:33.57 | RandomTask_ | I suspect it related to problems here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=366338 |
| 01:34.06 | RandomTask_ | But there is little help in this bug |
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| 01:42.36 | nirmaCobra | ?join #ubuntu |
| 01:43.33 | homekevin | nirmaCobra: Don't do it! |
| 01:43.35 | tharkun | using the factoid unmark auto to get rid of gdm is having some troubles, which are the "stategically chose packages" i have to mark |
| 01:43.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | join ubuntu or not join ubuntu, that is the question |
| 01:43.52 | tharkun | Are we men or mice? |
| 01:44.10 | homekevin | Or are we Lynxes |
| 01:44.15 | homekevin | Koalas? |
| 01:44.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | tharkun, depends... are you small, white or gray and hairy and have a cheese-obsession? |
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| 01:45.18 | tharkun | 1.85 mts tall 83 kgs and i do have a cheese obsession :-) |
| 01:45.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | how about gray and hairy... up to now there's some doubt |
| 01:45.48 | nirmaCobra | my mistake sorry |
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| 01:46.43 | lepra | I always get "Failed to create file system" when trying to install debian on qemu, how to solve this? |
| 01:47.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | write to a writeable device? |
| 01:48.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | tharkun, of course, if you're hairy but not white or gray (or vice versa), we'll have to toss a coin |
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| 01:48.41 | dirkson | Hallo all. What is the Hald daemon and why is it running? |
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| 01:49.29 | nirmaCobra | it senses new hardware when plugged |
| 01:49.58 | \amethyst | !hal |
| 01:49.58 | dpkg | HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is <freedesktop.org> project, which gives desktop software a programmatic way to examine present hardware and be notified of its changes. http://wiki.debian.org/hal http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/HalFAQ http://hal.freedesktop.org/ #hal on irc.freenode.net. Deprecated, see <devicekit> and http://wiki.debian.org/HALRemoval |
| 01:50.28 | dirkson | decides this isn't useful, and sees what happens when he stops it |
| 01:50.57 | dirkson | ... Nothing. Ok! |
| 01:50.59 | tharkun | dirkson: A sane advice. Don't mess with hal, it'll mess with you in due time |
| 01:51.40 | dirkson | I can't work out what it /does/. My USB keyboard still seems to work. Ditto mouse. Ditto all other hardware |
| 01:51.54 | homekevin | hal is going away, huh? |
| 01:51.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course... hal is for new hardware |
| 01:52.11 | dirkson | CutMeOwnThroat: Such as what? |
| 01:52.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | it doesn't KEEP recognizing the same hardware over and over again, that would be stupid |
| 01:52.25 | homekevin | dirkson: Meaning, it notices if you add a mouse or something |
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| 01:52.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | dirkson, such as a usb stick? or a different mouse |
| 01:53.11 | dirkson | disconnects, reconnects his mouse, "Still works. Dmesg appropriately tells me that it was extracted and re-inserted." |
| 01:53.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | or your sound device if you haven't played sound |
| 01:53.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | I was telling you, it doesn't keep recognizing it... |
| 01:53.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure if devices get destroyed |
| 01:53.52 | \amethyst | well, it's actually the kernel that recognizes it |
| 01:53.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | why don't you read on it |
| 01:54.00 | \amethyst | hal is how programs ask to be informed about such changes |
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| 01:54.17 | \amethyst | without having to be privileged |
| 01:54.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, hal is creating the device nodes... |
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| 01:54.24 | \amethyst | udev does that |
| 01:54.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | or so I thought |
| 01:54.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh |
| 01:54.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | dammit |
| 01:54.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | mixing things up |
| 01:54.53 | \amethyst | your X server, for example, might not notice the change |
| 01:55.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | now you made me wonder what it does :) |
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| 01:55.20 | drax_ | hi |
| 01:55.30 | drax_ | someone can help me with this problmen |
| 01:55.37 | OldParr | i have installed bind9-host on this machine may be for a mistake, do i need that on my system just to browse the internet? |
| 01:55.39 | drax_ | ?Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 |
| 01:55.40 | drax_ | gvbam: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib32/libgiomm-2.4.so.1: undefined symbol: g_resolver_ |
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| 01:56.07 | dirkson | Ok! I plugged in a bluetooth thingie. It has never been plugged into any computer before- Sans hal, the system recognizes it. |
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| 01:56.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | OldParr, no |
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| 01:57.19 | drax_ | i have a debian squeeze |
| 01:57.31 | drax_ | 64 bits |
| 01:57.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | OldParr, if you never call 'host' you don't need it.. it's a useful program though and other things might depend on it |
| 01:58.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | other things _do_ depend on it |
| 01:58.42 | Joejoe | hello! i have a server running squid on a public ip address. i am able to relay http traffic thru it just fine. now what i want to do is instead of having squid connect to external web servers, have it connect to my local web server for every http connection no matter what website is requested |
| 01:58.48 | OldParr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:59.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | OldParr, "man host" - it doesn't contain anything else but that ( run "dpkg -L bind9-host" to see) |
| 01:59.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | OldParr, you use that to get the IP from a hostname |
| 02:00.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | drax_, you somehow managed to mix the 64bit programs with 32bit libraries or vice versa |
| 02:01.25 | drax_ | i use ia32 |
| 02:01.37 | drax_ | but until i have found this is a bug |
| 02:01.53 | drax_ | i want to know if someone knows how to resolve this bug |
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| 02:02.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | drax_, one error you pasted is from /usr/lib, the other from /usr/lib32 |
| 02:02.12 | drax_ | because i have this lib in usr/lib32 |
| 02:02.28 | drax_ | yes i know, but util i have found |
| 02:02.37 | drax_ | this was a reported bug from ia32 |
| 02:02.41 | Joejoe | hello! what i have is a server running squid, iptables, and apache. the server is on a public ip address. when i go to google.com in my browser, squid works just fine. i want to be able to go to google.com and instead, have squid connect to the local web server. |
| 02:02.50 | drax_ | someone said that is solved to ubuntu |
| 02:03.11 | drax_ | CutMeOwnThroat, but i have found nothing to debian |
| 02:03.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | look for the ubuntu bug-report for a workaround then? |
| 02:03.36 | drax_ | but i have a debian squeeze |
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| 02:04.38 | drax_ | all i have found is everybody saying that also have this problmen |
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| 02:04.44 | drax_ | *problemn |
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| 02:06.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you check the bts? |
| 02:06.18 | drax_ | bts? |
| 02:07.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | !bts |
| 02:07.01 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 02:07.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | also |
| 02:07.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | !btssmite drax_ |
| 02:07.10 | dpkg | beats drax_ around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if drax_ is running testing or unstable |
| 02:07.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | note chainsaw |
| 02:07.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | what package are you talking about anyway |
| 02:08.08 | drax_ | ok, ty |
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| 02:08.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | gnome-session-canberra - GNOME session log in and log out sound events |
| 02:08.22 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: ia32-libs-gtk it sounds like |
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| 02:08.53 | OldParr | how do you know with aptitude if clam* is installed ? |
| 02:08.54 | drax_ | yes, look like the bug is from there |
| 02:09.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, that one trying to load the wrong libs? |
| 02:09.18 | \amethyst | drax_: try this (as root): cd /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/; ln -s /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/ ./i486-pc-linux-gnu |
| 02:09.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, wouldn't have thought _anyone_ would be missing something like gnome sound effects... |
| 02:09.36 | \amethyst | drax_: also with i686-pc-linux-gnu |
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| 02:10.12 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: it causes programs to crash |
| 02:10.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | very likely |
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| 02:10.44 | drax_ | \amethyst, what this command do? |
| 02:10.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm actually not sure from the incomplete errors what tries to call which |
| 02:11.46 | \amethyst | drax_: oops, wrong dir |
| 02:11.50 | drax_ | here, this is what i have found about the bug... |
| 02:12.03 | \amethyst | drax_: did you read the Ubuntu bug report? |
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| 02:12.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | <CutMeOwnThroat> look for the ubuntu bug-report for a workaround then? |
| 02:12.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | <drax_> but i have a debian squeeze |
| 02:13.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | "no"? |
| 02:13.25 | drax_ | yes |
| 02:13.58 | drax_ | \amethyst, how i revert the comman, because he cannot find the module anymorw |
| 02:14.03 | drax_ | *command |
| 02:14.04 | \amethyst | drax_: the problem is that there are some symlinks missing that tell gtk where to look for the ia32 versions of modules |
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| 02:14.28 | drax_ | no, its a 32 programn |
| 02:14.30 | \amethyst | drax_: rm the links (i486-pc-linux-gnu and i686-pc-linux-gnu) |
| 02:14.35 | drax_ | but i have a 64 system |
| 02:14.43 | \amethyst | yes, we figured that out |
| 02:14.57 | drax_ | rm? |
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| 02:15.26 | \amethyst | drax_: you said that creating the symlinks caused a problem? |
| 02:15.34 | drax_ | yes |
| 02:15.45 | \amethyst | drax_: so delete them with rm |
| 02:16.18 | drax_ | rm /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/ ./i486-pc-linux-gnu? |
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| 02:16.29 | \amethyst | rm i486-pc-linux-gnu |
| 02:16.35 | \amethyst | and i686-pc-linux-gnu |
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| 02:17.43 | OldParr | how is the systax you must use with aptitude to know if some package is installed ? |
| 02:18.01 | OldParr | how is the syntax you must use with aptitude to know if some package is installed ? |
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| 02:18.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | !echo |
| 02:18.10 | dpkg | ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo...cho...ho...o....... |
| 02:18.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh noes, I killed it |
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| 02:18.38 | drax_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/369123 |
| 02:18.46 | drax_ | this is the bug |
| 02:18.55 | \amethyst | drax_: oh, I was looking at 369498 |
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| 02:19.17 | \amethyst | drax_: which has much more info |
| 02:20.37 | drax_ | i have found another, but i cant find anymore |
| 02:20.49 | drax_ | yes, it this |
| 02:20.52 | drax_ | *its |
| 02:21.18 | drax_ | like i said, its says that ia32 have a bug to load the lib |
| 02:21.31 | drax_ | i think he can load from usr/lib32 |
| 02:21.45 | drax_ | and are trying to get for usr/lib |
| 02:24.17 | drax_ | wait a minute, lol sorry, now i have seem some patchs |
| 02:24.32 | drax_ | i will see if they help |
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| 02:25.03 | \amethyst | problem is, in debian ia32-libs is quite old |
| 02:25.08 | \amethyst | not updated for 10 months |
| 02:25.33 | \amethyst | since we're waiting on multiarch, which might happen someday |
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| 02:26.21 | drax_ | aaaa |
| 02:26.30 | drax_ | so i have to wait? |
| 02:26.50 | drax_ | the update |
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| 02:28.11 | drax_ | well, ty for the help anyway |
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| 02:30.46 | \amethyst | I don't expect waiting to help anytime soon, since last I heard consensus was that ia32-libs is a hack and a distraction from multiarch... but multiarch won't be ready until squeeze+1 at the very earliest |
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| 02:31.11 | laurus | Is there a way of downloading all files in a web server directory with a simple GNU/Linux command? |
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| 02:31.28 | unop | laurus, yes, wget |
| 02:31.35 | tbsaunde | laurus: wget -r? read the man page for wget |
| 02:31.45 | laurus | unop, that's what I've been playing around with but I can't seem to make it do what I want. |
| 02:31.51 | \amethyst | but I haven't been keeping up since debian-devel stopped sending me mail sometime late last year |
| 02:32.00 | laurus | There isn't any HTML file in the directory, it's just a ton of images. |
| 02:32.38 | unop | laurus, wget will take what the server gives it at that URL |
| 02:32.53 | laurus | unop, right, but if you go to that directory in a web browser it's just a directory listing. |
| 02:33.20 | tbsaunde | laurus: with links to the files right? |
| 02:33.21 | unop | laurus, that's fine, no problem |
| 02:33.28 | laurus | tbsaunde, yes |
| 02:33.41 | laurus | All it saved was "index.html", which doesn't exist, and "robots.txt" |
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| 02:33.55 | tbsaunde | laurus: so you just tell wget to follow links recursive / mirror etc |
| 02:34.54 | laurus | tbsaunde, right, but it didn't work when I did wget -r theurl. |
| 02:34.58 | laurus | It just downloaded those two files and stopped. |
| 02:35.26 | laurus | Oh, haha, the robots.txt is blocking wget. |
| 02:35.28 | tbsaunde | laurus: does robots.txt maybe say not to download the rest? |
| 02:35.29 | laurus | Any other programs that can do this? |
| 02:35.39 | laurus | I'm just tired of downloading all 2000 of them manually :P |
| 02:35.46 | tbsaunde | laurus: you can tell wget to ignore robots.txt |
| 02:35.54 | laurus | tbsaunde, oh ok |
| 02:36.27 | tbsaunde | laurus: -e robots.txt=no or something, I don't remember exactly, but it can be done |
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| 02:36.58 | laurus | tbsaunde, it's: -e robots=off |
| 02:36.59 | laurus | :) |
| 02:37.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | but you shouldn't... that's what robots.txt is for :) |
| 02:37.55 | laurus | CutMeOwnThroat, well, I could just keep downloading them one by one |
| 02:37.58 | laurus | But it's so annoying |
| 02:38.02 | xPhilosx | I have experience using rolling released distro's through Arch, my question is, when something breaks in Squeeze, how quickly are fixes generally submitted? In Arch the fixes come down the pipe pretty fast and makes repairs generally painless. |
| 02:38.23 | \amethyst | xPhilosx: fixes take at least 10 days to get into squeeze |
| 02:38.37 | tbsaunde | CutMeOwnThroat: if your downloading them anyway, having a program do it is fine |
| 02:38.47 | jordanm | \amethyst: I believe 2 if they mark it "high priority" or some such |
| 02:39.11 | laurus | Is there a way to make it ignore the link to the parent directory? :P |
| 02:39.16 | \amethyst | ah, right, 5 days |
| 02:39.25 | abrotman | no, it's 2-10 days ... if there are no RC bugs |
| 02:39.46 | xPhilosx | \amethyst, cc, in your experience are breaks usually fairly significant or pretty minor in the testing branch? Its mainly just a security risk right? |
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| 02:40.15 | tbsaunde | laurus: probably? I think you can tell it to stay within the part of the tree you give it or something? |
| 02:40.23 | jordanm | !tell xPhilosx about moving target |
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| 02:40.31 | laurus | tbsaunde, yes: -np :) |
| 02:40.32 | \amethyst | I use sid because I like breakage |
| 02:40.44 | \amethyst | gives me something to look forward to |
| 02:40.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, like... a day without breakage? |
| 02:40.55 | \amethyst | on my production machines I use stable |
| 02:40.59 | abrotman | xPhilosx: it depends on your definition of 'minor' |
| 02:41.06 | xPhilosx | jordanm, !tell I already said I use arch |
| 02:41.19 | \amethyst | so I don't have so much experience with actually running testing, except once the freezes start |
| 02:41.26 | tbsaunde | CutMeOwnThroat: somebody has to run unstable |
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| 02:41.39 | craigevil | not much breakage in sid if you do not use gnome or kde |
| 02:41.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | tbsaunde, true... poor buggers |
| 02:41.56 | laurus | tbsaunde and unop: Thanks a lot! |
| 02:41.58 | abrotman | right .. X never breaks .. kernels never break .. libc never breaks |
| 02:42.14 | tbsaunde | laurus: np |
| 02:42.34 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: the day I can be up-to-date without any held packages :) |
| 02:42.52 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: when that happens it's like my birthday |
| 02:43.12 | craigevil | libc6-686 and grub2 are the worst problems ive seen since lenny was released, but no gnome or kde4 here |
| 02:43.14 | xPhilosx | abrotman, to me minor = I still can access important files without tons of work. I.e., gnome breaks--no big deal I can still sftp or do whatever I need to in a terminal to get work stuff |
| 02:43.18 | abrotman | but with more presents? |
| 02:43.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps it's your birthday that is like your birthday and you just don't have time to check if packages are held :) |
| 02:43.58 | \amethyst | I manage my upgrades by hand in aptitude's UI |
| 02:44.01 | abrotman | xPhilosx: rarely will you get a system failure, more like never .. but random bad things have happened, like the libpam breakage that prevented any users from logging in or from using su |
| 02:44.04 | \amethyst | so I know whether something is held |
| 02:44.30 | jordanm | apt-listbugs |
| 02:45.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's always a lucky first, though |
| 02:45.07 | xPhilosx | abrotman, well, I suppose thats the risk you take, like using arch |
| 02:45.18 | xPhilosx | abrotman, I guess thats why I have a live knoppix cd lying around |
| 02:45.30 | abrotman | what would you need a livecd for ? |
| 02:46.01 | xPhilosx | abrotman, when things break on arch out of control I can still access files through a terminal |
| 02:46.13 | abrotman | bootloader? |
| 02:46.16 | tbsaunde | abrotman: you don't know of init=/bin/bash? |
| 02:46.42 | abrotman | tbsaunde: i wasn't the one that wanted a livecd |
| 02:46.47 | abrotman | keep up |
| 02:46.57 | xPhilosx | hmm? |
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| 02:47.16 | tbsaunde | abrotman: yeah, I was answering why someone would |
| 02:47.26 | tbsaunde | abrotman: what is the keep up supposed to mean? |
| 02:47.35 | abrotman | don't tell me! |
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| 02:49.22 | abrotman | xPhilosx: anyways .. various things can/will break .. ideally you have the knowledge to figure out what to do when this happens |
| 02:49.37 | xPhilosx | indeed, I appreciate the help |
| 02:50.01 | xPhilosx | Arch just claimed that testing was super slow to fix bugs so i wanted to verify that here |
| 02:50.16 | xPhilosx | I love Debian, ill probably just go testing now |
| 02:50.17 | abrotman | xPhilosx: 2-10 days usually ... some bugs stick around longer |
| 02:50.37 | xPhilosx | Cheers guys, take care |
| 02:50.45 | abrotman | xPhilosx: i have a bug in gnome-panel, it stops responding if i do things in a certain order .. i just restart it, and it goes on happily |
| 02:50.49 | abrotman | been doing that for ages |
| 02:51.00 | abrotman | needs to figure out the crashy trigger and file a bug |
| 02:51.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, and you run it in valgrind and it just goes away |
| 02:52.22 | abrotman | i really haven't played with it much |
| 02:52.46 | abrotman | i'd rather fix the "Battery Low" bug in LXDE on the netbook |
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| 02:55.29 | abrotman | SynrG says the LXDE battery applet is notoriously buggy |
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| 03:01.35 | xPhilosx | abrotman, how is the lxde debian combo on the netbook? |
| 03:02.04 | laurus | By the way, speaking of Debian Squeeze, there's a kernel issue that a lot of people using Ubuntu have noticed that revs up the chip on my laptop (Core 2 Duo). |
| 03:02.16 | laurus | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/373245 |
| 03:02.26 | laurus | I assume the Debian people already know about this, but I just wanted to bring it up in case. |
| 03:02.28 | abrotman | xPhilosx: it's actually really nice, except that bug, but i just leave up the xmessage window and ignore it |
| 03:02.45 | xPhilosx | abrotman, on my netbook i have arch + flux and its pretty quick. The only thing I dont like is that battery manage is pretty poor. |
| 03:02.51 | abrotman | xPhilosx: the lxsession is a bit out of sync with the pcmanfm .. but the only issue i saw was pretty easy to fix |
| 03:02.53 | xPhilosx | *management |
| 03:03.03 | abrotman | xPhilosx: you can try something like powertop to see what's sapping it |
| 03:03.19 | xPhilosx | never even thought of that--I'll do just that |
| 03:03.56 | abrotman | see lesswatts.org for other tips |
| 03:03.56 | xPhilosx | many thanks |
| 03:03.56 | abrotman | waves |
| 03:10.35 | CodeNinja | I've got a gnome-rdp session running... if I close it, and shutdown my system, will I be able to come back to it with what it is doing? |
| 03:11.24 | CodeNinja | suppose this was a dumb place to ask, first window.. kinda like chat roulette, except less dangerous |
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| 03:14.39 | phorce1 | CodeNinja: short answer -- yes, if you don't shut down the machine it's connected to |
| 03:14.58 | CodeNinja | if that happened, there would be fire |
| 03:15.33 | CodeNinja | thanks |
| 03:15.42 | CodeNinja | off to get some rage out |
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| 03:38.03 | gnufun | Is there anyone who could lend a hand at troubleshooting wireless connectivity on a new install of lenny on a laptop. I have several pastebins showing the steps already taken. http://debian.pastebin.com/cdv1UbG1 http://debian.pastebin.com/JSXTZmT1 http://debian.pastebin.com/di4pEmtN The wireless worked until I accidentally pressed the power button for the internal wireless card on the side of the laptop. I haven't bee |
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| 03:39.55 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, What is your laptop model? |
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| 03:42.10 | gnufun | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.21 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Check the bios..... Is there a "Embededded Wireless LAN.... DISABLED" setting? |
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| 03:43.53 | flaccid | anyone using debian on ec2? just trying to find what the optimum kernel image to use is.. |
| 03:44.24 | gnufun | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.05 | gnufun | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.15 | gnufun | ifconfig |
| 03:49.35 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Hmmm.... No wireless setting in your BIOS.... IAW the pubs..... |
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| 03:53.05 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, can iwconfig see the interface? |
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| 04:11.04 | gnufun | HermanDE_: http://debian.pastebin.com/PxxXXBsw |
| 04:12.49 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Does it see any WIFI points? iwlist |
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| 04:16.53 | gnufun | HermanDE_: I don't think that it does. http://debian.pastebin.com/XktkN0Fe |
| 04:18.34 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 04:18.55 | gnufun | ok I will check that |
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| 04:19.43 | gnufun | HermanDE_: wlan0 No scan results |
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| 04:20.10 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Now do an iwconfig wlan0 |
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| 04:20.21 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Are there any power settings listed? |
| 04:20.44 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, You can directly adjust your wlan with the iwconfig command.... |
| 04:21.25 | gnufun | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.12 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Bring up the Tx-Power |
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| 04:22.44 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, iwconfig wlan0 txpower auto |
| 04:22.57 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, iwconfig wlan txpower 100 |
| 04:23.20 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Different wlan cards react differently to transmit power commands... |
| 04:23.49 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Try iwconfig wlan0 on |
| 04:24.21 | gnufun | http://debian.pastebin.com/dyZgQfEa This is an interesting result |
| 04:24.25 | k\t | on? |
| 04:24.40 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Sure... It's like off... just on... |
| 04:24.59 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Try wlan0.... :) |
| 04:25.07 | gnufun | iwconfig: unknown command "on" |
| 04:25.08 | k\t | iwconfig wlan0 essid __ |
| 04:25.17 | gnufun | up |
| 04:25.20 | k\t | ifconfig wlan0 up |
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| 04:26.11 | k\t | iwlist scanning ... iwconfig <ifer> essid '__' ... dhclient <ifer> |
| 04:26.57 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, You need "txpower on"... |
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| 04:27.07 | k\t | woops iwconfig <ifer> essid '__' key '__' |
| 04:27.18 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Getting tired.... "iwconfig wlan0 txpower on" |
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| 04:27.37 | k\t | and "mode managed" doesn't hurt... unless you're using kismet or something... |
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| 04:27.53 | HermanDE_ | k\t, It's already set to managed.... |
| 04:28.06 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Just needs to be turned on.... |
| 04:28.09 | k\t | HermanDE: then you're half way there =P |
| 04:28.20 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Which part? |
| 04:28.27 | k\t | ifconfig <iface> up ; dhclient <iface> |
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| 04:28.49 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Uh.... First you need the wireless to work "iwconfig".... |
| 04:29.01 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Then follow up with the physical interface.... |
| 04:29.06 | gnufun | Tx is still on 20 dBm |
| 04:29.20 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Kind of hard to have a network without a connection... |
| 04:29.21 | k\t | what exactly are you doing? |
| 04:29.37 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Now try a iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 04:29.39 | k\t | sorry, i've kinda jumped into the loop without an entrance |
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| 04:30.10 | gnufun | wlan0 No scan results |
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| 04:30.14 | HermanDE_ | k\t, He is trying to get a soft wifi to work again... After hitting the soft off button.... |
| 04:30.44 | gnufun | I can get teh light to turn on/off with ifconfig wlan0 up/down |
| 04:30.46 | k\t | Herman, for what it's worth... the basic idea in my wlan script is... ifconfig <iface> up ; iwconfig <iface> essid __ key __ ; dhclient <iface> |
| 04:31.01 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Does the iwconfig wlan0 show any changes or is it all zeros? |
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| 04:31.37 | gnufun | all 0's |
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| 04:31.52 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Ok that works for your hardware/driver..... |
| 04:32.15 | gnufun | http://debian.pastebin.com/fE0PMgjB |
| 04:32.25 | k\t | for iface in $(awk '/^[a-z]/ { print $1 }' <(ifconfig) ) ; do ifconfig $iface down ; done ... |
| 04:32.26 | gangil | hi , If I am behind a proxy , then apart from setting proxy in gnome-network-preferences , do I also need to set something else? Because as of now the browser net is working, but I am unable to install any packages from terminal. |
| 04:32.35 | k\t | ... ifconfig <iface> up ; iwconfig <iface> essid __ key __ ; dhclient <iface> |
| 04:32.55 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Try iwconfig wlan commit |
| 04:33.13 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Some cards require a "COMMIT" command before applying settings.. |
| 04:33.20 | k\t | =P |
| 04:34.03 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Hmm.... Then follow k\t's advise and try an ifconfig wlan0 up.... |
| 04:34.09 | gnufun | http://debian.pastebin.com/1JRbAYmX |
| 04:34.47 | gangil | ^ |
| 04:34.47 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Gotta love it.... Everything is different.... |
| 04:35.39 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Ok... Silly question time..... Is the firmware for the wifi loaded? |
| 04:35.56 | k\t | HermanDE: ... =( |
| 04:36.00 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Does any of the iwconfig settings stick? |
| 04:36.34 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Did I mention "soft wifi" yet? |
| 04:37.20 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, try man iwconfig.... See if you can set a channel or essid.... Anything.... |
| 04:37.20 | k\t | i believe so... so my mistake... let HermanDE guide you through this... i'll just be over here doing whatever it is i do... |
| 04:37.23 | gnufun | as far as I know, yes it is loaded (b43) |
| 04:37.35 | k\t | cya guys, gnufun, goodluck, HermanDE_: cya around.. |
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| 04:37.54 | HermanDE_ | Have fun.... Remember this is freedom to *play*.... |
| 04:38.00 | gangil | anyone? |
| 04:38.05 | k\t | _cheers* =) |
| 04:38.06 | gnufun | k\t: thank you very much |
| 04:38.20 | k\t | gnufun: np... |
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| 04:38.36 | gnufun | k\t: If you think you know how to fix this, feel free to shoot out something |
| 04:38.39 | HermanDE_ | gangil, Did you set a proxy in your browser? |
| 04:39.07 | gangil | I use epiphany so no options , though did set it through gnome-network-preferences through terminal |
| 04:39.16 | gangil | but the internet works in browser |
| 04:39.33 | gangil | but no packages are being installed in terminal |
| 04:40.07 | k\t | i don't, honestly... but from time to time, zombies exist because i switch from lan -> wlan -> tether, etc... so i usually unload iface's then initiate others... this is probably a horrible way to do things in the TCP/IP world, but my current solution... so... yea.. once again that was.. |
| 04:40.11 | k\t | for iface in $(awk '/^[a-z]/ { print $1 }' <(ifconfig) ) ; do ifconfig $iface down ; done ... |
| 04:40.16 | k\t | ... ifconfig <iface> up ; iwconfig <iface> essid __ key __ ; dhclient <iface> |
| 04:41.08 | k\t | just the basic idea... |
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| 04:41.34 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Do you have b43-fwcutter installed? |
| 04:41.58 | gnufun | HermanDE_: Yes |
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| 04:43.24 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, I think I found a huge page that may solve your problems..... Or lead to a few more hours of fun..... http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 |
| 04:43.27 | gnufun | k\t: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' I replaced the ____ with the access point essid and the key |
| 04:44.13 | gnufun | HermanDE_: Thank you, that is where I got this far |
| 04:44.38 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, This looks weirdly complex..... |
| 04:45.19 | k\t | i'm sorry, well then i forgot what they call it but there's some graphical client that lets you choose connections like in windows.. |
| 04:45.21 | gnufun | HermanDE_: That was a good page to confirm that I had the correct driver. It worked until I touched the power button |
| 04:45.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | gnufun, /usr/share/doc/apt-doc/guide.html/footnotes.html:If you are using an http proxy server you must set the http_proxy environment variable |
| 04:45.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 04:45.28 | k\t | wpa assistant or something... |
| 04:45.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | wrong guy starting with g |
| 04:45.49 | k\t | wpa supplicant?? |
| 04:45.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | gangil, /usr/share/doc/apt-doc/guide.html/footnotes.html:If you are using an http proxy server you must set the http_proxy environment variable |
| 04:46.11 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Good idea..... But the card is not sending/receiving.... |
| 04:46.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | (from the apt-doc package) |
| 04:46.34 | k\t | any "leases" after dhclient <iface> |
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| 04:47.11 | HermanDE_ | gnufun, Silly question 2.... Can you restart/reinstall the b43-fwcutter? |
| 04:47.19 | factor | So will toy story 3 add more names to the list for debian to take? |
| 04:47.22 | gnufun | I can try that |
| 04:47.33 | k\t | HermanDE_ seems like you can handle this.. |
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| 04:47.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | gangil, also se "man 5 sources.list" |
| 04:47.43 | HermanDE_ | factor, Sure.... |
| 04:48.09 | HermanDE_ | k\t, I've been there.... And it sucks if you have a choice between a 56k modem and a broken WIFI.... |
| 04:48.23 | k\t | tether ftw |
| 04:48.56 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Tethering is only a few years old.... WIFI is about 10 years old.... |
| 04:49.21 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Real Working WIFI in Linux is still new..... |
| 04:49.43 | HermanDE_ | k\t, That should be "EASY WIFI in Linux is still new".... |
| 04:49.57 | k\t | HermanDE_: yes but you've already explained the whole process, firmware and wireless client... i think that's as basic as it'll get... |
| 04:50.30 | k\t | wow, i'm talking alot... |
| 04:50.32 | HermanDE_ | k\t, Yep... It is drilling down to that... And it seems to be getting easier.... |
| 04:50.37 | k\t | __faking pr0n... l8r |
| 04:51.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can fake that? |
| 04:52.01 | HermanDE_ | CutMeOwnThroat, Prions in the brain are always faked.... |
| 04:52.26 | HermanDE_ | CutMeOwnThroat, They lead to massive misspellings..... And mad cow thoughts.... |
| 04:52.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't think you got that one right |
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| 04:54.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, there's James Gunn's PG-Porn... you _might_ call that fake pr0n |
| 04:54.35 | HermanDE_ | Anybody know of any QuickBook replacements in the Deb Repository? |
| 04:54.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | now what's quickbook |
| 04:55.07 | jarick | CutMeOwnThroat: I think it's an accounting package |
| 04:55.15 | HermanDE_ | Massivly complex accounting system..... |
| 04:55.27 | dondelelcaro | HermanDE_: sqlledger or gnucash, depending on what you're doing |
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| 04:55.40 | HermanDE_ | I have a few people interesting in *ux only if it is as complex as QuickBooks..... |
| 04:55.54 | HermanDE_ | sql-ledger is a complete failure.... Fails under Perl 5.10 |
| 04:56.14 | HermanDE_ | Name a current distribution that runs less than Perl 5.10 |
| 04:56.59 | jarick | HermanDE_: Wine appears to run quickbooks 2007 |
| 04:57.03 | dondelelcaro | HermanDE_: uh... Debian distributes a version which appears to work |
| 04:57.04 | jarick | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=120 |
| 04:57.14 | dondelelcaro | HermanDE_: and if it doesn't, please file bugs |
| 04:57.21 | gangil | CutMeOwnThroat: ok , so we I need to set http_proxy as $export http_proxy=âhttp://<proxy-server-ip>:<port>â |
| 04:57.24 | HermanDE_ | jarick, No interest in running Wine... |
| 04:57.36 | HermanDE_ | dondelelcaro, It has been filed for over 10 months.... |
| 04:57.48 | jarick | I see. |
| 04:58.17 | HermanDE_ | dondelelcaro, The sole programmer is doing his best to ignore the OSS crowd.... |
| 04:58.17 | gangil | but it says, gangil@debian:/usr/share/doc$ $export http_proxy=http://enhanceedu1.iiit.ac.in:8080 bash: http_proxy=http://enhanceedu1.iiit.ac.in:8080: No such file or directory |
| 04:58.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | gangil, yes, except you'll use ", not â, but probably your terminal will not leave you a choice there anyway :) |
| 04:58.22 | jarick | gangil: Get rid of the $ |
| 04:58.24 | gnufun | HermanDE_: I did apt-get purge b43-fwcutter then reinstalled it and got the same result. Thank you for all of your help. I am going to sleep on it... Last resort (before reinstalling the OS) would be: ? |
| 04:58.46 | HermanDE_ | dondelelcaro, I think that SQL-Ledger should be tossed to the wind.... It is a GPL product, but the code is very ugly and needs massive refactoring.... |
| 04:58.50 | jarick | Also, I think you need quotes |
| 04:59.03 | dondelelcaro | HermanDE_: *shrug* then don't use it |
| 04:59.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, right and the dollar (I read that as the shell prompt up there, though) |
| 04:59.13 | gangil | did that , no change gangil@debian:/usr/share/doc$ $export http_proxy="http://enhanceedu1.iiit.ac.in:8080" bash: http_proxy=http://enhanceedu1.iiit.ac.in:8080: No such file or directory |
| 04:59.43 | HermanDE_ | dondelelcaro, I used to deploy it to every client... As an added bonus..... Thankfully only 4 actually used it.... |
| 04:59.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | jarick, probably not, but bash is a bit picky about the use of ":", so it won't hurt |
| 04:59.59 | HermanDE_ | dondelelcaro, That is why they are going to sit at Etch until I can find a good replacement.... |
| 05:00.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | gangil, "export", not "$export" |
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| 05:00.53 | jarick | CutMeOwnThroat: Extra quotes can't hurt. |
| 05:01.04 | dondelelcaro | HermanDE_: well, that actually looks to be a perl bug, not a bug in sql-ledger |
| 05:01.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | right you are, "'jarick'" |
| 05:01.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | :-P |
| 05:01.25 | dondelelcaro | HermanDE_: but the version we distribute seems to have some other bugs too, so if sql-ledger is something you care about, helping the maintainer out would be a good idea |
| 05:01.43 | HermanDE_ | dondelelcaro, It is a complete failure.... |
| 05:01.44 | dondelelcaro | if it's not, then the only other thing which comes even close is gnucash; that's basically it |
| 05:02.26 | HermanDE_ | dondelelcaro, Sure..... You don't want to know how I've tried.... I'm done.... |
| 05:02.26 | dondelelcaro | (and gnucash is more geared to what quicken does) |
| 05:03.43 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* |
| 05:03.48 | HermanDE_ | dondelelcaro, This is a situation where a programmer created a nice project.... Then decided that the OSS community shall not support his artwork.... |
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| 05:03.55 | poecundank | hi |
| 05:04.37 | HermanDE_ | dondelelcaro, Gnucash is good.... I'm considering LedgerSMB.... But, that is a risk of moving the same direction *again*.... |
| 05:05.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually apt-cache search finance finds some more things in testing/unstable... |
| 05:05.46 | HermanDE_ | CutMeOwnThroat, Hmmmm.... |
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| 05:06.01 | HermanDE_ | CutMeOwnThroat, Time to dig in Packages.Debian.org.... Thanks for the idea... |
| 05:06.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | HermanDE_, you haven't got a debian? |
| 05:06.42 | poecundank | where can i buy a cheap domain name and support for irc? |
| 05:07.05 | HermanDE_ | CutMeOwnThroat, I live on Debian..... Just made the decision to move away from SQL-Ledger today.... |
| 05:07.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | HermanDE_, that's the search result... looks mostly like replacements for gnucash http://pastebin.com/xEv5m8Eg |
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| 05:07.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just wonder why you have to go to packages.debian.org :) |
| 05:07.41 | HermanDE_ | CutMeOwnThroat, I've been shooting email after email to SQL-Ledger... |
| 05:07.48 | dondelelcaro | HermanDE_: ah, yeah, ledger-smb is what I meant, actually |
| 05:08.01 | poecundank | ?? |
| 05:08.10 | dondelelcaro | I had forgotten about which direction that whole thing went, since I don't use either |
| 05:08.19 | HermanDE_ | CutMeOwnThroat, It is my way of checking out things.... Cuts across all revs..... |
| 05:08.34 | HermanDE_ | CutMeOwnThroat, No need to adjust apt lines.... |
| 05:08.46 | gangil | CutMeOwnThroat: the command worked fine now, but still I am unable to install any packages from terminal |
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| 05:08.51 | poecundank | where can i buy a cheap domain name and support for irc? |
| 05:09.24 | dondelelcaro | poecundank: not on topic here... |
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| 05:18.46 | slidesinger | tftp-hpa -- /var/log/daemon.log Jun 16 01:09:56 ss in.tftpd[2305]: cannot bind to local socket: Address already in use anyone know how to find what is going on here? |
| 05:19.45 | slidesinger | netstat -ltpn | grep 69 nothing |
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| 05:20.28 | slidesinger | So, apparently, port 69 is not in use, yet tftp-hpa thinks that it is. |
| 05:20.37 | Elive_user9_en | hi iam unable to boot to my hdd error 18: selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios |
| 05:21.13 | Elive_user9_en | with sidux system after upgrade, how to get rid of it, hdd not shown in bios also |
| 05:21.26 | jarick | slidesinger: Who is tftpd running as? |
| 05:21.33 | lucid | Elive_user9_en: probably because the bios doesn't support that size; you likely need to flash your bios |
| 05:22.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | slidesinger, inetd? |
| 05:22.13 | slidesinger | jarick: tried both root and nobody. |
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| 05:22.55 | slidesinger | CutMeOwnThroat: tried commenting out the tftp line in inetd.conf, but then it doesn't even try to start. |
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| 05:23.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | so it _is_ started from inetd |
| 05:24.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh, what line is that? |
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| 05:25.57 | slidesinger | CutMeOwnThroat: I think so, although it seems to require that RUN_DAEMON="yes" be selected in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa I tried RUN_DAEMON="no" but got the error message tftpd-hpa disabled in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa |
| 05:26.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't have any, actually. but I don't have tftpd installed |
| 05:27.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | _what_ did you run as root and noboy, then? |
| 05:27.08 | slidesinger | CutMeOwnThroat: tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -l -s /var/lib/tftpboot |
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| 05:27.31 | slidesinger | CutMeOwnThroat: in /etc/inetd.conf |
| 05:27.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | you don't run that |
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| 05:28.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | you mean you had nobody instead of root in that line? |
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| 05:29.21 | slidesinger | CutMeOwnThroat: yes |
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| 05:29.44 | slidesinger | Didn't make any difference either way. |
| 05:29.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | tftpd is port 69, so has to be accessed by root |
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| 05:30.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | "netcat -l -p tftp -u" also returns an error? |
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| 05:31.49 | slidesinger | I got that, I tried nobody back before I figured out that nobody did not have anything to do with who was allowed to access the server. |
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| 05:32.20 | slidesinger | CutMeOwnThroat: second, I will give that a try. |
| 05:32.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, actually I don't think that fails |
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| 05:33.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, right now that should give you an error, inetd should listen there.. |
| 05:34.19 | slidesinger | CutMeOwnThroat: invalid local port tftp |
| 05:34.27 | \amethyst | changelog says: tftp-hpa (5.0-1): ... * Now running always in daemon mode, it is too error prone and messy to support inetd mode |
| 05:35.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, good find |
| 05:35.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | slidesinger, oh, then it'd been 69 - but guess \amethyst got the reason |
| 05:36.48 | slidesinger | I see. Will look up running in daemon mode and what I need to do. |
| 05:37.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | so you remove it from inetd.conf and just start the service |
| 05:37.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | it'll listen itself... |
| 05:37.57 | \amethyst | you just remove it from inetd.conf, make sure RUN_DAEMON="yes", and invoke-rc.d tftpd-hpa start |
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| 05:39.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | and you really run sid for fun? |
| 05:39.52 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: well, maybe not "fun" exactly :) |
| 05:40.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | shocked... I am shocked... :) |
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| 05:41.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | someone told me once, he's now running sid... and trys to upgrade as rarely as possible :-P |
| 05:41.49 | \amethyst | I don't update as often as I "should" |
| 05:41.55 | SerajewelKS | since the last round of squeeze updates, my laptop touch pad no longer works past the login screen. it's the oddest thing... it works fine on the login screen but once my gnome session starts it stops working entirely. |
| 05:42.04 | SerajewelKS | i don't suppose anyone else has experienced this? |
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| 05:43.02 | slidesinger | \amethyst: that has done away with the error message, yet I still get nothing from netstat -ltpn | grep 69 |
| 05:43.29 | \amethyst | slidesinger: tftp is UDP, not TCP |
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| 05:43.55 | \amethyst | slidesinger: try -u instead of -t |
| 05:44.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | meh -t |
| 05:44.23 | slidesinger | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:* 2299/in.tftpd |
| 05:44.52 | slidesinger | Looks like it might be running. Will try a get. |
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| 05:45.32 | \amethyst | slidesinger: that explains your problem earlier about the port being in use... I missed that you were using -t then |
| 05:46.30 | slidesinger | \amethyst: It got the file! |
| 05:47.00 | \amethyst | slidesinger: yay! |
| 05:47.12 | \amethyst | slidesinger: probably if you had tried that much earlier it would have worked too :) |
| 05:47.16 | slidesinger | CutMeOwnThroat \amethyst thank you both. |
| 05:48.00 | SerajewelKS | oddly enough, even if i leave the default psaux or input/mice configuration in, this still happens |
| 05:48.40 | SerajewelKS | according to the logs, it looks like X grabs some udev events and attempts to use the synaptics driver on the touchpad, which fails for whatever reason. so if i could just get X to stop outsmarting itself... |
| 05:48.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | now try tftp host /etc/password |
| 05:48.59 | SerajewelKS | automagic is nice until it fucks up your config |
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| 06:09.22 | SerajewelKS | how do i turn off this fucking ann |
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| 06:11.43 | civillian | annoying? |
| 06:11.53 | civillian | pineapple? |
| 06:12.04 | slidesinger | Naturally. Now I have it working on this end and the cisco switch is now telling me I've got a socket error. So I'm off to research the cisco problem. Thanks again for your help. |
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| 06:14.07 | SerajewelKS | hndcg |
| 06:14.11 | SerajewelKS | gah |
| 06:14.47 | SerajewelKS | sorry, my kernel sees fit to spam me four times per second about a malfunctioning USB device. how do i tell the kernel to stfu again? |
| 06:15.23 | SerajewelKS | bah, and yeah, synaptics is still broken as shit |
| 06:15.25 | civillian | unplug power |
| 06:16.06 | SerajewelKS | civillian: if you don't know, don't make useless suggestions |
| 06:16.34 | civillian | SerajewelKS, how about you calm down? Swearing on IRC isn't going to fix it... |
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| 06:18.20 | SerajewelKS | civillian: neither will snarkiness |
| 06:19.27 | slidesinger | Tiredness will get you every time. I had forgotten to write the config to memory after setting the ip. It is copying the file now! Thanks again! |
| 06:20.13 | massmc | will there be a problem formatting a usb drive as xfs? or should I keep them fat or ext4 |
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| 06:22.32 | SerajewelKS | massmc: it should work (on Linux, anyway) |
| 06:22.59 | massmc | yes, will just be used for storage mostly, playing with diff file systems |
| 06:23.28 | SerajewelKS | if you're playing around, just format it and see if it works |
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| 06:27.48 | massmc | SerajewelKS, theres no difference in speed is there? I mean ext4 takes up like 700 meg for it's filing |
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| 06:31.00 | SerajewelKS | massmc: different filesystems have different speeds for different operations |
| 06:31.08 | SerajewelKS | massmc: you're going to have to be a *lot* more specific than that |
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| 06:31.38 | valdyn | massmc: you will just break that usb flash using a journaling fs and not get any speed benefit with any fs |
| 06:32.09 | SerajewelKS | i still can't figure out how X knows about my touchpad before gdm completes the log in process and immediately after it just dies |
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| 06:38.34 | massmc | valdyn, is xfs going to stuff it aswell or just stick to fat |
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| 06:39.34 | valdyn | massmc: xfs is journaling too |
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| 06:40.21 | iw | hello! i am running debian, and my fglrx kernel module is installed and running, but xorg cannot seem to load it! I can use Xorg, but it doesn't find the fglrx module when it loads, and as a result i have no xvideo overlay. When I try and force it to use fglrx, it complains, "Warning, couldn't open module fglrx." What might I be doing wrong? |
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| 06:41.03 | valdyn | iw: that message is about the X module, not the kernel module, both of those "modules" need to be available |
| 06:41.50 | iw | valdyn, is there a package i might not have installed? |
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| 06:42.03 | valdyn | !fglrx |
| 06:42.03 | dpkg | [fglrx] "FireGL and Radeon for X", the AMD/ATI proprietary display driver. As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chipsets prior to the R600 series are supported; ask me about <radeon> or <radeonhd> instead. The fglrx-driver version in <testing> supports Xorg 7.5 (Xserver 1.7). To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner lenny>, <fglrx one-liner squeeze> or see http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary . #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 06:43.00 | iw | that package isnt showing up on my apt-cache search |
| 06:43.22 | valdyn | !non-free |
| 06:43.22 | dpkg | i heard non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 06:43.40 | iw | valdyn, i thought i had non-free set up |
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| 06:44.27 | iw | valdyn, yeah on my main sources list it has non-free |
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| 06:45.10 | iw | valdyn, and fglrx-driver is installed |
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| 06:47.37 | valdyn | iw: which one-liner did you use? |
| 06:47.52 | iw | valdyn, you mean to install fglrx-driver? |
| 06:48.00 | valdyn | iw: thats only one package |
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| 06:48.11 | valdyn | !fglrx one-liner lenny |
| 06:48.11 | dpkg | [fglrx pre-built] For Lenny/2.6.26 users. Ensure you have <non-free sources> added. Exit X / stop any <DM>, then as root: aptitude -r install fglrx-modules-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,'` fglrx-control fglrx-driver && modprobe -r radeon drm && aticonfig --initial |
| 06:48.34 | valdyn | !fglrx one-liner squeeze |
| 06:48.34 | dpkg | [fglrx dkms] For Squeeze users. Ensure you have <non-free sources> added. Exit X / stop any <DM>, then as root: aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,'` fglrx-control fglrx-driver && modprobe -r radeon drm && aticonfig --initial |
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| 06:48.52 | alfatau | hello, i've a debian server running i can't turn off. can you advise me some simple tool to make a backup of the running file system excluding other devices mounted into /mnt ? thank you in advance |
| 06:49.12 | valdyn | alfatau: man cp |
| 06:49.17 | valdyn | alfatau: or man rsync |
| 06:49.20 | valdyn | alfatau: or man dd |
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| 06:50.19 | alfatau | valdyn: ok, thanks |
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| 06:57.06 | iw | valdyn, all those packages are already installed |
| 06:57.16 | iw | valdyn, and i dont seem to have aticonfig |
| 06:58.40 | iw | huh i am missing files |
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| 07:08.50 | xro_ | hi, i need the package --> python-netaddr... how can i install it in debian? |
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| 07:10.12 | sohum | never mind, I had some weird ~/.texmf- folders that were messing things up |
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| 07:18.42 | syntax_enable | I just installed squeeze on my laptop, and once i installed xorg, i lose all functionality of tty1-6. the screen just fades to black. does anyone have an idea of why this may be happening? |
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| 07:20.27 | Bushmills | video driver |
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| 07:21.07 | syntax_enable | Bushmills: How would I attempt to fix it (or maybe completly isolate the problem?) |
| 07:21.34 | Bushmills | try to start with framebuffer, or try a different driver. |
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| 07:29.29 | _pepo_ | hi friend |
| 07:30.03 | _pepo_ | Ive downloaded testing Debian but the installer can't use ext3 neither ext4 |
| 07:30.13 | _pepo_ | I think that it is a bug, or not? |
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| 07:30.39 | sonicx | hm, rather strange... |
| 07:30.56 | sonicx | try the stable in comparison. |
| 07:31.33 | sonicx | i dont think theres any way that ext is dependend on your hardware, and it is pretty much the default family of fs for a debian. |
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| 07:31.51 | sonicx | never had probs with the installer like that. |
| 07:32.21 | _pepo_ | ok, I mean that the installer is not good... there is not libraries for mkfs.ext4 or mkfs.ext3 so it works just with jfs or xfs |
| 07:34.03 | sonicx | are you sure you downloaded the installer here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/amd64/iso-cd/ ? |
| 07:34.14 | _pepo_ | a few weeks ago the installer of testing version was ok, but now It is wrong |
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| 07:34.57 | _pepo_ | i've used jigdo and the sums was ok |
| 07:34.58 | sonicx | use squeeze_alpha1 version of installer. its testing too |
| 07:35.13 | sonicx | y just meant the version |
| 07:35.54 | sonicx | even small images and netboot images have ext as far as i know. can only be something wrong with the version you got |
| 07:36.50 | _pepo_ | I've used the images from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-cd/ |
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| 07:54.52 | debianguy | hello ,I am trying to build debian package for exaile(latest). dh_usrlocal fails |
| 07:54.55 | topi` | good morning. How do I apt-get upgrade without upgrading my udev? I don't have to have problems with udev, and I'm running an old kernel |
| 07:55.14 | debianguy | Here is the log: http://pastebin.ca/1884146 |
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| 07:56.45 | lilith | hi all |
| 07:56.53 | puckyd | hej |
| 07:56.53 | debianguy | do I need override_auto_install |
| 07:57.02 | rvsjoen | dpkg: pinning |
| 07:57.02 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
| 07:57.03 | michalxo | Hello guys! Can anyone help me find this? I can't find it on my PC :-( Since I'm running gnome, all I had to do was enable Network-Manager sleep under |
| 07:57.03 | michalxo | gnome-power-settings in the gconf-editor. |
| 07:57.40 | lilith | say I noticed that xvidtune was taken out the the repositories. Anyone know why? |
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| 07:59.13 | topi` | lilith: what do you need xvidtune for? :) |
| 07:59.25 | topi` | I remember using it back in 1995, with a CRT monitor |
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| 08:00.22 | lilith | my screen goes lower than what it should? Sometimes the side cut short on both sides |
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| 08:00.35 | lilith | you mean itÅ only for CRTs_? |
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| 08:01.06 | jrydberg_ | i'm tasked to make a debian package for our software. can someone point out an existing package that updates a database schema on upgrade? i need examples :) |
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| 08:03.30 | ethanol | mornin' people |
| 08:03.32 | jelly-home | lilith: which debian release are you using> |
| 08:03.46 | jelly-home | judd: file bin/xvidtune |
| 08:03.49 | judd | bin/xvidtune in lenny/i386: x11-xserver-utils: usr/bin/xvidtune |
| 08:03.54 | jelly-home | judd: file bin/xvidtune --release sid |
| 08:03.57 | judd | bin/xvidtune in sid/i386: x11-xserver-utils: usr/bin/xvidtune |
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| 08:04.21 | jelly-home | lilith: it seems to be present in both stable and unstable |
| 08:04.38 | jelly-home | judd: file bin/xvidtune --release squeeze |
| 08:04.41 | judd | bin/xvidtune in squeeze/i386: x11-xserver-utils: usr/bin/xvidtune |
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| 08:04.52 | ethanol | jrydberg_: mysql itself has upgrade scripts for the privileges tables and such |
| 08:05.11 | lilith | This is what I got ... |
| 08:05.13 | lilith | "You have searched for packages that names contain xvidtune in all suites, all sections, and all architectures. Sorry, your search gave no results" |
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| 08:05.28 | jrydberg_ | ethanol: doh! of course! |
| 08:05.35 | lilith | http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=xvidtune |
| 08:05.37 | ethanol | lilith: pastebin contents of /etc/apt/sources |
| 08:05.42 | wvae | how to mount a ntfs fs at boot time in debian 5 ? |
| 08:06.08 | ethanol | lilith: it's a file, not a package :x my bad. you can find it in x11-xserver-utils apparantly |
| 08:06.19 | jrydberg_ | ethanol: is there some place where i can find all debian/* files for the std packages? |
| 08:06.34 | ethanol | jrydberg_: that I do not know, sorry. |
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| 08:06.46 | lilith | thanks |
| 08:06.50 | ethanol | never build a package myself. |
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| 08:08.31 | ethanol | not that I got anything that could go in a package. only a tiny init.d/ script for iptables :> |
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| 08:10.34 | ethanol | though I do wonder. where would rulesets be stored most properly? I'm not so familiar with the debian way of placing files and such. right now I just store them in /etc/ipwall (cause my init.d script is also called ipwall) |
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| 08:16.16 | ygwolf | hey,guys |
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| 08:16.34 | ygwolf | and i am using debian ,and i like it |
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| 08:19.13 | michalxo | ygwolf good for you! :-) |
| 08:19.13 | manixor | Tell me a vnc client for debian |
| 08:19.16 | manixor | a grafical one |
| 08:19.43 | michalxo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:20.14 | ygwolf | michalxo thanks |
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| 08:23.14 | topi` | anyone using dselect to select which packages to upgrade and which not? |
| 08:23.27 | topi` | I need to be careful not to get too new a udev from unstable since I cannot upgrade my kernel. |
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| 08:24.14 | zcat[1] | !info vinagre |
| 08:24.44 | dpkg | vinagre: (remote desktop client for the GNOME Desktop), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.30.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2295 kB, Installed size: 5864 kB |
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| 08:25.43 | zcat[1] | (for manixor ) |
| 08:25.59 | zcat[1] | I think vinagre is installed by default too |
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| 08:26.41 | manixor | I need to connect over internet, not on local networl |
| 08:26.50 | manixor | vinagre I think it's only for local netw |
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| 08:31.00 | xelister | how to install all packages named xfont-* ? |
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| 08:32.29 | xelister | aptitude install `aptitude search xfonts- | cut -d" " -f4` ? it seems a bit hackish.. isnt there an regexp capable manager? |
| 08:34.34 | zcat[1] | manixor: you're confused. VNC is an IP protocol, no client is going to give a toss if it's local or remote. If you can't connect it's probably because the remote host has the port firewalled (sensivle because VNC isn't all that secure) and the best answer it to tunnel VNC through SSH |
| 08:34.54 | zcat[1] | *sensible |
| 08:35.07 | manixor | I want to connect to a MAC OS, over the internet |
| 08:35.30 | manixor | I get this: main: unable to connect to host: Connection refused (111) |
| 08:35.34 | topi` | manixor: well then, disable the firewall from the preferences panel, ask on #macosx for mre info |
| 08:35.56 | topi` | you do understand what "connection refused" means? |
| 08:36.15 | manixor | I tried with this to connect: xvnc4viewer |
| 08:36.28 | manixor | Yes, I understand, it's the mac problem |
| 08:36.45 | topi` | you sure you got the right ip address? and not your localhost |
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| 08:37.09 | themill | xelister: aptitude install ~nxfonts- |
| 08:37.15 | manixor | Yes, I have the write ip address |
| 08:37.17 | themill | dpkg: tell xelister about aptitude search |
| 08:37.17 | topi` | manixor: it's not a mac problem, i think you just need to understand what you are trying to do :) |
| 08:37.19 | zcat[1] | manixor: You will need to allow connections to the VNC port from any IP on the mac (I don't know how to configure firewalling in OSX) and also you may need to port forward the same port at the router |
| 08:37.56 | zcat[1] | manixor: and it really has nothing to do with it being a mac, or what vnc client you try to use... |
| 08:38.34 | topi` | manixor: try 'sudo ipfw list' on the mac terminal, and see if there are any deny's |
| 08:38.57 | zcat[1] | My money is on the MAC being behind a NAT connection ... |
| 08:39.41 | topi` | the NAT (and ipv4 for that matter) is probably one of the top causes for productivity losses :) |
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| 08:40.00 | manixor | I succed to go here: |
| 08:40.00 | ravibn | Hi! I need to understand which version I need to install on my Dell Latitude e6510 ? |
| 08:40.24 | manixor | CConn: connected to host 93....port 5900 |
| 08:40.40 | manixor | CConnection: Server supports RFB protocol version 3.889 CConnection: Using RFB protocol version 3.8 |
| 08:40.40 | topi` | ravibn: any version. but if you have a spanking new laptop, you might want to try the unstable version since it carries the newest kernel |
| 08:41.06 | manixor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:41.18 | manixor | And after nothing happend with my termonal |
| 08:41.21 | manixor | like connection died |
| 08:41.24 | ravibn | topi : this is new one and it requires i686 kernel |
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| 08:41.46 | topi` | ravibn: well, any intel cpu can be run also on a i386 kernel |
| 08:42.00 | topi` | sorry to confuse you :) |
| 08:42.05 | ravibn | topi : I tried ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64 bit it does not boot |
| 08:42.07 | solar_sea | I'm getting "W: Failed to fetch http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch" when trying to apt-get update using lenny-backports, is it only me or it's currently broken ? |
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| 08:42.50 | topi` | ravibn: maybe it has an older kernel that does not have support for some critical component |
| 08:43.15 | ravibn | topi : it has the latest 3.16 kernel |
| 08:43.34 | topi` | umm, methinks the latest kernel is 2.6.34 |
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| 08:44.04 | ravibn | topi : the display showed that version |
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| 08:44.33 | topi` | ravibn: I assume you don't have any background with linux? |
| 08:44.53 | gtklocker | rofl ravibn :p |
| 08:45.03 | wvae | lolol |
| 08:45.18 | ravibn | topi : ok! just give me the idea abt which version I need to download and install |
| 08:45.37 | michalxo | ravibn debian squeeze 64bit |
| 08:45.54 | topi` | go 32 bit if you don't know what you're doing |
| 08:46.06 | michalxo | http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ READ CAREFULLY |
| 08:46.12 | michalxo | ravibn ^^^ |
| 08:46.15 | topi` | (there might be some driver missing, but probably not) |
| 08:46.42 | michalxo | ravibn If I were you, i'd try ubuntu 9.10 and then give a shot to debian... |
| 08:46.53 | zcat[1] | dammit, I just managed to tar half my filesystem into a big archive named --one-file-system |
| 08:46.53 | ravibn | topi : my notebook has intel core i7 720qm with 57 chipset and nvidia 3100 nvs grpx card |
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| 08:47.18 | topi` | zcat, hehe, did you use '--' somewhere in command line? :) |
| 08:47.24 | zcat[1] | figured out what was going on when tar started going out of root and into other mountpoints |
| 08:47.42 | zcat[1] | tar czvf --one-file-system archivename.tgz / |
| 08:47.55 | topi` | ouch! the 'f' takes the next string as its arg |
| 08:47.56 | zcat[1] | D'Oh |
| 08:49.17 | topi` | ravibn: dunno, I just buy whatever new macbooks apple throws at me... at least they are pretty quickly supported in the kernel |
| 08:49.41 | topi` | and no f**ing annoying stickers beneath your palms |
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| 08:50.23 | zcat[1] | first thing I do with any machine I get is peel off all the 'made for Windows' stickers and COA's |
| 08:50.45 | topi` | zcat: and stick the windows stickers into your toilet bowl? :) |
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| 08:50.57 | zcat[1] | microwave oven. |
| 08:51.02 | topi` | ok :) |
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| 08:51.35 | topi` | I'm in the middle of trying to transfer my workflows from OSX to debian |
| 08:51.41 | zcat[1] | the cds make cool sparks when you cook 'em |
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| 08:52.06 | topi` | technically there isn't that much in OSX that I'm against, but from free software standpoint the situation is unsustainable |
| 08:52.49 | zcat[1] | I wonder if bsd would be less of a jump? |
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| 08:56.48 | xelister | the man page about aptitude seems to be bullshit |
| 08:57.23 | xelister | it says 10 times: read "Pattern Matching" in aptitude reference page... but 0 time is the Pattern Matching explained. same in info aptitude. so where the hell is it explained then =) I thought man is THE man page. |
| 08:57.55 | xelister | or I should order reference manual for aptitude in printed form from Amazon |
| 08:57.57 | themill | xelister: dpkg told you where to get extensive documentation for aptitude |
| 08:58.46 | xelister | before aptitude crashed my user with irc client.. /me looks in log |
| 09:00.03 | zcat[1] | I'm so lazy, installing a new machine by taring this one to a USB drive, and untarring it on the other machine.. reinstalling grub2 and changing hostname is easy, tweaking a fresh install the way I like it takes ages... |
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| 09:00.37 | jelly | xelister: aptitude-doc-en package contains the reference manual rendered in html |
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| 09:01.52 | jelly | zcat[1]: that tar is called an installation image, no sane admin would manually install and configure more than a couple of machines |
| 09:02.24 | jarick | jelly: The saner ones tend to preseed |
| 09:02.56 | zcat[1] | In the past I've hacked up scripts to install and tweak machines how I like them.. |
| 09:03.03 | jelly | jarick: takes much less time to unpack a tar than wait for dpkg & friends |
| 09:03.11 | xelister | jelly: imho this sucks to not just explain the patterns right there... someone thought +1 kb of manpage is too much? </rant> |
| 09:03.22 | jarick | jelly: Not so entertaining when supporting a diverse range of machines. |
| 09:03.28 | zcat[1] | but yeah, tar is much faster |
| 09:03.39 | jelly | jarick: you just have to know which image to use ;-) |
| 09:04.14 | zcat[1] | depends how diverse, I can put an i386 install on just about anything and it will usually work pretty well |
| 09:04.18 | jelly | xelister: I bet the authors would love your patches to the man page |
| 09:04.56 | themill | xelister: it would be far more than that to actually explain the search patterns in the man page and then you'd end up with a completely useless man page that you can't find anything in. |
| 09:05.11 | jelly | zcat[1]: what about different purposed machines (different software on them) |
| 09:05.13 | jarick | zcat[1]: I have armish machines here. |
| 09:05.21 | jelly | amish? |
| 09:05.21 | jarick | And sparcs. |
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| 09:05.36 | jelly | jarick: and jaricpu |
| 09:05.46 | jarick | jelly: Yes, the nice gentleman over there plays the role of the ALU |
| 09:06.07 | jarick | And the horse carts pick up the instructions and data. |
| 09:06.09 | zcat[1] | jelly: for that I would probably do a fresh install |
| 09:06.14 | jarick | jelly: Not got linux runing on that yet. |
| 09:06.23 | jelly | jarick: ALUs are for wimps. Make your students implement an emulator |
| 09:06.32 | jarick | jelly: I've not finalized the memory model yet. |
| 09:06.38 | jarick | jelly? |
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| 09:06.51 | jarick | jelly: I have students now? |
| 09:06.59 | jelly | jarick: why don't you! |
| 09:07.02 | jarick | I'm not even a filthy undergrad! |
| 09:07.15 | zcat[1] | I'm gonna have students soon! |
| 09:07.32 | zcat[1] | and a little computer lab... |
| 09:07.37 | jelly | all ye academia sorts look the same to me |
| 09:07.55 | jarick | zcat[1] is in .edu? |
| 09:07.58 | zcat[1] | setting up a little community computing center, yay! |
| 09:08.09 | jarick | I see. |
| 09:08.22 | jarick | thinks that it would be fun to revive batch processing again. |
| 09:08.35 | koollman | I would like to do that :) |
| 09:08.37 | fonseg | i am using squeeze, just upgraded pcmanfm to version 0.9.7 and now it cannot see partitions and external drives. anyone encounter this issue and is there a fix? |
| 09:09.08 | jarick | hands koollman a stack of cards and a wooden stick |
| 09:09.31 | zcat[1] | http://xkcd.com/505/ |
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| 09:09.48 | koollman | jarick: never handle someone a wooden stick, in particular if you are mocking him ;) |
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| 09:10.20 | jarick | koollman: I was thinking more pencil-like |
| 09:10.38 | koollman | but, more seriously, the last time I thought hard about system/config/cluster management, I ended up with a design that would just be ... really like a giant distributed batch system |
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| 09:11.43 | jarick | koollman: Except without cards. Where's the fun in that? Where's the excitement on watching someone discover that labeling deck order is an extremely useful thing? :D |
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| 09:15.54 | xelister | themill: well, 1) go install some b.s. 2) just say "type aptitude install ~foo* to install all packages matching...". I definatelly prefer 2 |
| 09:16.24 | xelister | actually best would be if simply aptitude install "xfont-*" would do exactly that what is intuitive |
| 09:16.36 | themill | xelister: except that's the wrong syntax and isn't half of what it is supposed to be doing |
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| 09:17.30 | xelister | well I don't want to write a turing machine with it, just to install all xfont-'s, since it seems like quite popular request, imho it would be nice if it would be also quite trivial :) |
| 09:18.16 | jelly | zcat[1]: heh, have you seen http://pleasingfungus.com/ |
| 09:18.56 | \amethyst | aptitude install '~nxfont-.*' |
| 09:19.18 | jelly | xelister: do you really have that many legacy apps using bitmapped fonts? |
| 09:19.22 | themill | \amethyst: that's what he was told almost an hour ago, but ranting is more fun |
| 09:19.28 | \amethyst | ah |
| 09:19.35 | rvsjoen | what's the 'n' for |
| 09:19.42 | \amethyst | rvsjoen: package name |
| 09:19.45 | rvsjoen | ah |
| 09:20.09 | rvsjoen | thanks, searching for 'n' in the manpage isn't the most productive venture |
| 09:20.19 | jelly | deceivingly muttlike syntax |
| 09:20.32 | jelly | rvsjoen: it's not in the man page! |
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| 09:20.42 | rvsjoen | that's why I haven't found it then.. |
| 09:20.44 | themill | dpkg: tell rvsjoen about aptitude search |
| 09:21.10 | xelister | jelly: dunno... I just wanted to install many of the popular fonts (i.e. to see all unicode chars) |
| 09:21.16 | rvsjoen | cheers |
| 09:21.35 | \amethyst | xelister: you probably want ttf- packages |
| 09:21.52 | xelister | themill: ranting is way more fun, especially if it would make someone write manpage next time to be more user friendly |
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| 09:22.03 | themill | dpkg: tell xelister about ranting |
| 09:22.08 | jelly | xelister: you'll want them ttf-* packages then |
| 09:22.18 | themill | xelister: you'll find plenty more sympathetic ears in /dev/null |
| 09:22.41 | jelly | xelister: that someone can be you! Gain eternal fame. |
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| 09:22.59 | xelister | jelly: I have it already by having accepted patch in openssh |
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| 09:23.16 | xelister | (it's not a very exciting patch.. well, not as exciting as remove randomization patch :P) |
| 09:23.18 | \amethyst | time to retire then |
| 09:23.29 | jelly | xelister: gain MORE eternal fame? |
| 09:23.35 | \amethyst | the aptitude author doesn't even hang out here AFAIK |
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| 09:23.57 | jelly | \amethyst: he's busy fixing all the hundreds of bugs |
| 09:24.19 | xelister | jelly: just few |
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| 09:24.57 | pmo | hello |
| 09:25.34 | amee2k | is there a way to tell rsync to treat a list of specified symlinks as though --copy-links was in effect, but the as regular symlinks with --links in effect? |
| 09:26.53 | jelly | amee2k: two rsync runs? |
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| 09:27.09 | pmo | i'd like to know what sort of 'real issue' you have faced to use ia64 intead of i386 ? |
| 09:27.11 | amee2k | jelly: hmmm how would that work? |
| 09:27.28 | jelly | pmo: you probably mean amd64 vs. i386 |
| 09:27.59 | \amethyst | amee2k: does it happen to be the case that the ones you want to --copy-links on are the ones that point outside the tree being synced? |
| 09:28.03 | jelly | pmo: perl eats about double the ram for hashes |
| 09:28.33 | amee2k | \amethyst: yes. |
| 09:28.37 | amee2k | i'm rewriting a backup script that formerly used unison for rsync. to enable backup for some file or dir, you'd create a symlink to it in an index dir |
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| 09:28.40 | \amethyst | amee2k: --copy-unsafe-links |
| 09:28.44 | pmo | jelly, i meant ia64 which should be similar to amd64, the only difference is, i have an intel proc |
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| 09:29.05 | \amethyst | pmo: ia64 is Itanium |
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| 09:29.20 | pmo | jelly, twice more ram sounds ok to me.. is also supposed to compute twice faster as i know |
| 09:29.22 | jelly | pmo: negative on that, "ia64" is a completely different cpu, your intel cpu uses amd64 debian architecture |
| 09:29.22 | \amethyst | pmo: amd64 is used for both Intel and AMD 64-bit x86 processors |
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| 09:29.41 | pmo | \amethyst, thanks, didn't know |
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| 09:30.05 | pmo | jelly, got it wrong ;-) thanks |
| 09:30.29 | amee2k | \amethyst: yeah, but i only want to have specified links folowed |
| 09:30.40 | jelly | pmo: speed depends on actual workload. Things might me a bit faster, a bit slower, or not noticeably different. Don't expect more than +-10% change though |
| 09:30.43 | pmo | jelly, but for me 64bits.. means calculation twice faster.. very efficient when it comes to encryption |
| 09:30.53 | amee2k | the original script used "follow = Path *" in the unison config, so only symlinks on the top level are followed |
| 09:31.17 | pmo | jelly, i expect openvpn to improve drastically |
| 09:31.37 | amee2k | if i can't use wildcards, i'll enumerate the link names first and add an option for each to the command line |
| 09:31.39 | pmo | jelly, no more +3G ram limit |
| 09:31.43 | \amethyst | amee2k: then you'll probably need two runs, using --include and --exclude (or --filter) |
| 09:31.44 | jelly | pmo: it also means filling the cpu caches with a smaller number of larger memory structures so -> slower |
| 09:31.50 | jelly | pmo: test your app. |
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| 09:32.40 | amee2k | \amethyst: i'm not sure how i could do it in two runs either... wouldn't the second run delete the directories and put the links back? |
| 09:32.43 | pmo | jelly, do you use it ? |
| 09:32.52 | jelly | pmo: I use perl. :-) |
| 09:33.11 | pmo | jelly, well a start could be to make something like a vmware.. system.. |
| 09:33.16 | jelly | and went back to i386 because of the aforementioned issue |
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| 09:33.41 | pmo | jelly, i use ruby.. :) |
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| 09:33.51 | jelly | my condolences |
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| 09:34.08 | jelly | obviously you don't care about performance that much |
| 09:34.10 | jelly | hides |
| 09:34.31 | \amethyst | amee2k: --delete doesn't remove excluded files |
| 09:34.33 | pmo | jelly, yes i care about performance, but +/-10% that is not a big issue |
| 09:34.52 | xelister | I can use ip a and ip r to conigure IP and routing... and any such cmd to configure DNS server address? |
| 09:35.03 | amee2k | hmmm interresting |
| 09:35.13 | Candyman | anyone know the name of a video conferencing server that can be run on debian or ubuntu, with screen sharing |
| 09:35.27 | pmo | what would bother me is.. having software not compatible with amd64 :( |
| 09:35.28 | spo0nman | Hi I'm getting these errors in syslog http://pastebin.com/Xm4P12bt and the machine freezes up ... can someone explain what's going on? |
| 09:36.05 | amee2k | \amethyst: thanks, i'll see if i can make it work with two runs. this should be acceptable |
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| 09:38.13 | pmo | spo0nman, memory issue, did you check out.. your ram ? |
| 09:40.16 | pmo | spo0nman, i can't tell what's going on, but sounds definitly memory related |
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| 09:46.23 | jelly | xelister: $EDITOR /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 09:47.34 | Candyman | anyone know the name of a video conferencing server that can be run on debian or ubuntu, with screen sharing |
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| 09:49.17 | s1kx- | whats my best bet to do when i always get segfaults when i compile stuff? reinstalling g++? |
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| 09:51.09 | SPF | s1kx-: fix your code |
| 09:51.28 | s1kx- | eh |
| 09:51.36 | s1kx- | its not exactly my code |
| 09:51.49 | s1kx- | i get it when compiling apache httpd 2.2.5 and php 5.3.2 |
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| 10:04.06 | riot | uh.. i accidentally all my firefox-root certificates. Is there a nice way to reinstall the debian-defaults again? |
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| 10:09.05 | slysir | .split |
| 10:09.37 | dv- | riot: apt-get install ca-certificates, perhaps |
| 10:09.52 | riot | hmm, i'm gonna try that.. |
| 10:10.02 | simonrvn | firefox has its own. fetch them from a tarball... |
| 10:10.13 | simonrvn | (not a debian question ;) |
| 10:10.18 | riot | hmm, ca-certificates mentions mozilla-certs |
| 10:10.50 | simonrvn | mildly surprised |
| 10:10.55 | simonrvn | is* |
| 10:11.02 | simonrvn | i should go back to sleep... |
| 10:11.18 | spo0nman | I have added the set of issues here http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=52926 |
| 10:12.00 | spo0nman | can someone explain the reason behind it? |
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| 10:16.42 | kephu | hi |
| 10:17.04 | kephu | a quick question: is there a way I can assign a per-user su and sudo password? |
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| 10:20.40 | liable | sudo yes, its their password, su no |
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| 10:22.36 | jarick | tau: nc? |
| 10:22.52 | tau | jelly: does nc work so ? |
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| 10:23.14 | jarick | tau: nc -l will let you listen to arbitary ports. |
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| 10:23.32 | tau | nice, jarick , yes, thank you. |
| 10:23.37 | tau | i got it. |
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| 10:23.53 | tau | jarick: to send, what can I use ? |
| 10:24.00 | BlackFate | nc again |
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| 10:24.40 | jarick | tau: ^^ |
| 10:25.03 | tau | sure, thank you. |
| 10:25.06 | tau | ^^ |
| 10:25.15 | tau | what does it mean ? |
| 10:25.36 | jarick | tau: See above |
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| 10:26.37 | JP_ | hi folks |
| 10:26.42 | tau | jarick: i said '^^', what is it meaning ? |
| 10:26.49 | tau | just curiousity. |
| 10:26.59 | jarick | tau: Yes. It means "see the line above" |
| 10:27.17 | tau | jarick: LOLOL |
| 10:27.30 | tau | jarick: sure. |
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| 10:50.25 | pif | hi, why does ksoftirqd take 30% of a CPU in top ? |
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| 10:50.41 | pif | when the system is idle |
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| 10:53.15 | mafm | hello |
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| 10:53.53 | mafm | does anybody know any developer from around north Portugal available to sign my gpg key? |
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| 10:54.33 | visof | hell |
| 10:54.34 | visof | hello |
| 10:54.54 | visof | my laptop has IR support , how can i investigate that ? |
| 10:55.07 | msm_ | I would like to upgrade live-helper using http://live.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/live-helper/live-helper_2.0~a14+20100609.151200_all.deb |
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| 10:55.39 | msm_ | I currently have live-helper installed from lenny stable and above version is not yet in debian dists |
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| 10:56.05 | msm_ | any one sees any issue ...any checks I need to make before I install newer version |
| 10:56.38 | msm_ | I plan to use dpkg -i name |
| 10:57.26 | msm_ | actually my lh_build fails at /dev/pts/ missing in chroot |
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| 11:04.45 | visof | is there a good way to can know what type of rams i'm using "DDR2, or DDR" ?? |
| 11:04.54 | visof | from software |
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| 11:05.19 | liable | dmidecode |
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| 11:05.33 | jelly | visof: dmidecode or lshw might provide clues |
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| 11:06.05 | themill | !what's my ram |
| 11:06.05 | dpkg | [myram] install and run 'dmidecode -t memory' as root to see RAM info, or also install i2c-tools package, modprobe eeprom, and run decode-dimms for much more detailed informaiton. Try 'lshal | grep smbios' to obtain mainboard and BIOS information. |
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| 11:08.31 | visof | jelly, *-memory |
| 11:08.31 | visof | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.31 | visof | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.32 | visof | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:08.48 | visof | oh |
| 11:08.51 | visof | i wan't know |
| 11:08.53 | visof | sorry |
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| 11:15.21 | Anonissimus | I get during a configure that it requires libcurl with ssl support, any suggestions how to fix this? |
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| 11:16.36 | abrotman | Anonissimus: i think it only has tls support in debian? |
| 11:17.09 | Anonissimus | so I have to compile it manually then? |
| 11:17.30 | themill | .info libcurl3 |
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| 11:17.33 | themill | ,info libcurl3 |
| 11:17.34 | judd | libcurl3 (libs, optional): Multi-protocol file transfer library (OpenSSL). Version: 7.18.2-8lenny3; Size: 222.5k; Installed: 444k; Homepage: http://curl.haxx.se |
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| 11:18.05 | linub1 | hi, i got a big problem with initrd.img, i got crypt and lvm with RTL8111/8168B nic . i made an update-initramfs and the system freezes before luks passphrase promt. some clues? |
| 11:18.25 | abrotman | Anonissimus: moment |
| 11:19.04 | abrotman | Anonissimus: apt-cache search libcurl ssl |
| 11:19.30 | lgeesfstj | Im having ruby 1.8.7 on my comp, would like to have 1.8.6 instead! what should I do? |
| 11:19.54 | themill | lgeesfstj: use a different language that doesn't break on every micro release? |
| 11:20.06 | abrotman | oh .. burn |
| 11:20.40 | Anonissimus | abrotman: you want what that returns? |
| 11:21.17 | Anonissimus | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/1J2QU9z4 |
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| 11:21.50 | abrotman | Anonissimus: i know what it returns .. your program probably wants something like libcurl4-openssl-dev |
| 11:21.53 | amee2k | wtf? openoffice is version 2.4?! |
| 11:22.07 | lgeesfstj | can somebody tell how I could downgrade from ruby to 1.8.6? |
| 11:22.09 | BlackFate | on debian stable yes |
| 11:22.16 | abrotman | !tell amee2k about bpo |
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| 11:22.28 | amee2k | god, thats almost one major version behind |
| 11:22.31 | Anonissimus | abrotman: but if I update my system this is the latest version I get |
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| 11:22.54 | lgeesfstj | yes tell me pleas4e |
| 11:22.58 | amee2k | abrotman: i thought using backports isn't supported? |
| 11:23.04 | zer0x | I am getting '/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)' with lvm2 on sid, is there a simple solution? |
| 11:24.08 | abrotman | amee2k: supported by who? |
| 11:24.16 | amee2k | in this channel here |
| 11:24.19 | abrotman | Anonissimus: try installing that package |
| 11:24.32 | abrotman | amee2k: what functionality do you need from OO3.x ? |
| 11:24.40 | amee2k | ... |
| 11:25.14 | amee2k | i'll tell you when i run into them |
| 11:25.43 | amee2k | this is the first time i decided to put vanilla debian on a desktop box since like 3.1 or so |
| 11:25.53 | Anonissimus | abrotman: I tried isntalling it, it says it cant find the pacakge |
| 11:25.57 | abrotman | amee2k: well, you can use backports.org, many people use them, they work pretty well |
| 11:25.57 | themill | amee2k: that's a fair question -- about the only thing it offers is slightly better docx support. So if you don't want that and your worried about using backports.org then be happy with OOo2.4. The bpo packages fro OOo are fine though. |
| 11:26.08 | amee2k | just caused a "wow shit, didn't know stable versions were /that/ stable" moment ... again |
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| 11:26.43 | starenka_ | hi, can i use amd64 for xeon 2.8ghz (cat /cpu/proc shows 4cpus)? (sorry im a noob) |
| 11:27.13 | jelly | visof: search for "Memory Device" in dmidecode output |
| 11:27.19 | amee2k | abrotman: i'm reasonably convinced that they work in most cases. i do however remember the occasional incident here where people were refused help because "backports isn't supported" or something |
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| 11:27.30 | visof | jelly ok |
| 11:27.32 | simonrvn | just 'cause you have 4 cpus doesn't mean it's 64b. nowadays maybe, but they don't coincide. |
| 11:27.47 | Bushmills | amee2k: every new release of stable is stable in the same way |
| 11:27.59 | abrotman | amee2k: that's less so now .. they're more widely used and accepted |
| 11:28.00 | amee2k | ? |
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| 11:28.06 | petern_ | starenka_, well, what's the cpu model? |
| 11:28.15 | amee2k | abrotman: oh, okay. thats interresting to know |
| 11:28.23 | rmrfchik | Hi. I don't how it happens, but sometime auto repeating keys mask in X11 gets clear (set to ffffffffffffffff), so all keys starts repeats (including Shift, Alt). |
| 11:28.30 | rmrfchik | 1. how to know what program clears it |
| 11:28.32 | abrotman | amee2k: many people use the kernel backport for better wifi support for example |
| 11:28.42 | rmrfchik | 2. hot to set it back without restarting X11 |
| 11:28.44 | jelly | starenka_: search for "lm" in flags in /proc/cpuinfo, that's "long mode" = 64bit mode |
| 11:28.49 | starenka_ | petern_: it says gintel, cpuf: 15, model: 4 |
| 11:28.59 | rmrfchik | X.Org X Server 1.6.3 |
| 11:29.07 | starenka_ | jelly: yes, it says LM in cpuflags |
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| 11:29.15 | jelly | starenka_: there you have it. |
| 11:29.19 | starenka_ | thanks |
| 11:29.24 | amee2k | abrotman: i only have one wlan card and that works reasonably well with the stock b43 driver from the repo |
| 11:30.08 | simonrvn | that's how ;) |
| 11:30.09 | amee2k | don't ask me about my general opinion regarding wlan... would only result in a moderate rant and large amounts of sexist insults |
| 11:30.26 | abrotman | yeah .. clearly wifi is sexist ... |
| 11:30.38 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 11:30.42 | amee2k | no, the insults usually are... |
| 11:31.03 | jelly | wifying amy |
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| 11:32.16 | lgeesfstj | could somebody help me with installing ruby 1.8.6 ? |
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| 11:34.13 | abrotman | lgeesfstj: i doubt you can without compiling yourself, there are no packages for it in Debian |
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| 11:34.25 | abrotman | lgeesfstj: lenny has 1.8.7 |
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| 11:36.04 | SPF | how can I scp files, but skip existing files. I'm only able to use port 22 |
| 11:36.13 | abrotman | rsync? |
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| 11:36.20 | SPF | rsync works on port 22? |
| 11:36.28 | amee2k | yeah |
| 11:36.34 | jelly | SPF: if rsync is installed on both machines, you can use it over ssh, yes |
| 11:36.37 | amee2k | well, it can layer itself on top of ssh |
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| 11:38.08 | ribasushi | what was the squeeze factoid again? |
| 11:38.27 | abrotman | !tell ribasushi about squeeze |
| 11:38.30 | abrotman | !tell ribasushi about wwsr |
| 11:38.33 | abrotman | or was there another? |
| 11:38.40 | jelly | lenny->squeeze? |
| 11:38.46 | jelly | wir? siyh? |
| 11:38.47 | abrotman | !tell ribasushi about lenny->squeeze |
| 11:39.02 | jelly | dpkg: listkeys squeeze |
| 11:39.03 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'squeeze' by key (15 of 29): iceape squeeze #del# ;; lenny->squeeze ;; networkmanager squeeze ;; nm squeeze ;; nvidia squeeze tum ;; quick squeeze/sid mix ;; sid->squeeze ;; squeeze bet ;; squeeze kernel ;; squeeze penix ;; squeeze security ;; squeeze upgrade test ;; squeeze-multimedia ;; squeeze/sid ;; why squeeze/sid. |
| 11:39.07 | zer0x | Has anyone here encountered a problem with update-grub and lvm2 with recent updates? |
| 11:39.22 | ribasushi | hehe |
| 11:39.23 | jelly | ribasushi: please be more specific if you can |
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| 11:39.57 | jelly | doesn't want his tum to be squeezed by nvidia |
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| 11:40.44 | abrotman | !tell jelly about squeeze penix |
| 11:40.45 | abrotman | ? |
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| 11:40.54 | abrotman | oh, someone didn't know how to use the bot |
| 11:41.11 | ribasushi | abrotman: on the announcement 2 days ago |
| 11:41.19 | ribasushi | does this imply testing is frozen? |
| 11:41.23 | ribasushi | or not quite yet> |
| 11:41.24 | abrotman | no |
| 11:41.25 | ribasushi | ? |
| 11:41.41 | abrotman | ribasushi: which part would imply it is frozen? |
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| 11:41.52 | ribasushi | the "Transition freeze" pgf. |
| 11:42.06 | abrotman | ribasushi: there is a transition freeze, but they still have one more IIRC, to make python2.6 the default |
| 11:42.18 | ribasushi | transition == sid -> testing yes? |
| 11:42.25 | abrotman | they're also prepping the i27n freeze |
| 11:43.03 | abrotman | ribasushi: well, kind of, that's the normal transition for packages, but this is more like a transition from using say .. perl5.2 to perl5.4 or something like that .. it breaks things, changes dependencies, stuff like that |
| 11:44.22 | jelly | i27n? |
| 11:44.38 | themill | thinks abrotman's just hitting number keys at random here |
| 11:44.46 | themill | abrotman: that's only for the installer |
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| 11:45.00 | themill | abrotman: you know, the stuff that jelly was going to do :) |
| 11:45.05 | abrotman | themill: he's a bum! |
| 11:45.10 | zer0x | jeeeez |
| 11:45.12 | abrotman | yes .. i just hit random numbers |
| 11:45.18 | jelly | themill: that's transLAtion, not transItion |
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| 11:45.52 | themill | jelly: that was in reference to the string freeze (abrotman's i27n) |
| 11:46.21 | jelly | well there's no transition involved there |
| 11:46.31 | themill | ribasushi: there's going to be plenty of movement from sid to squeeze for the time being -- it's just big archive-breaking changes like new gcc, new gnome, new xorg, new kde aren't allowed some time soon. |
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| 11:46.41 | jelly | or is there?!? |
| 11:46.48 | themill | jelly: [12:41] <abrotman> they're also prepping the i27n freeze |
| 11:46.50 | ribasushi | themill: got it |
| 11:47.17 | jelly | themill: whata bout <ribasushi> the "Transition freeze" pgf. |
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| 11:47.26 | abrotman | themill: i thought that was all strings |
| 11:47.48 | jelly | waves a string in front of abrotman |
| 11:47.50 | themill | abrotman: no-one cares about strings in apps in debian. Only for the installer. |
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| 11:47.55 | dupondje | Hi, my system has some packages from lenny, but its an etch system. How can I easly downgrade all packages that are upgraded to lenny version accidently ? |
| 11:47.58 | abrotman | jelly: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/06/msg00001.html |
| 11:48.04 | abrotman | was wrong! |
| 11:48.15 | themill | introduces jelly to the notion of fork() in irc conversations |
| 11:48.36 | jelly | themill: I'm _trying_ to keep on one topic |
| 11:48.56 | themill | dupondje: no. "/msg dpkg etch->lenny" and finish it off. etch is past its use-by date anyway |
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| 12:18.20 | jelly | How do I make Adobe Flash plugin use pulseaudio instead of the alsa device directly? |
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| 12:21.36 | datenritter | hmm, since one of the last updates in testing, my KAddressbook doesn't show anything anymore, ometimes it complains about the akonadiserver, which is not running. where did my data go? what should i do? |
| 12:22.06 | datenritter | oh, actually, aconadi is running |
| 12:22.15 | datenritter | even worse. empty window, no contacts. |
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| 12:23.07 | datenritter | akonadi_control --help prints: D-Bus session bus is not available! (and a backtrace) |
| 12:25.18 | jelly | datenritter: have you logged off and back on after upgrading parts of KDE? |
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| 12:28.49 | datenritter | jelly: i can't log off, but i rebooted. |
| 12:29.17 | jelly | good enough |
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| 12:30.01 | jelly | datenritter: you could ask #debian-kde on OFTC |
| 12:30.08 | datenritter | k |
| 12:31.45 | Anonissimus | abrotman: just back now, you have any suggestions how I can solve the libcurl issue? |
| 12:31.55 | abrotman | Anonissimus: i thought i said? |
| 12:32.00 | Anonissimus | I tried installing the libcurl13 package but it tells me it cannot find it |
| 12:32.30 | abrotman | libcurl4-openssl-dev |
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| 12:32.47 | themill | Anonissimus: what's "it" that told you it couldn't find it, and check your typing. |
| 12:32.58 | Anonissimus | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libcurl14-openssl-dev" |
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| 12:33.15 | abrotman | that's NOT what i typed |
| 12:33.52 | themill | removes the "1" key from Anonissimus's keyboard |
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| 12:50.03 | lmaowaffle | hello. how do i list all apps installed from a particular repo in my sources.list- debian-multimedia.org in particular |
| 12:50.34 | Anonissimus | abrotman: thanks the whole thing was me misreading the nqme of the library |
| 12:50.43 | abrotman | i know! |
| 12:50.47 | themill | dpkg: tell lmaowaffle about dmm list |
| 12:51.47 | lmaowaffle | themill: cheers |
| 12:51.55 | themill | np |
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| 12:52.53 | spo0nman | how can i find out if my disk i/o is slow? |
| 12:53.15 | mguy | Access time or transfer rate? |
| 12:53.16 | abrotman | iostat is one measure |
| 12:53.26 | abrotman | you can benchmark using bonnie or uhm .. hdparm |
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| 12:54.18 | kripz | im using realtek's module for my NIC, how can i go back to the debian default? |
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| 12:54.24 | abrotman | spo0nman: i think something like htop can also show whihc is using the most IO |
| 12:54.48 | abrotman | maybe that was atop |
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| 13:00.23 | debian1x | maybe iotop |
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| 13:08.33 | P-Nuts | If I'm running squeeze, and wish to stay on testing when squeeze becomes stable, do I just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and s/squeeze/testing/g, or is there more to it than that? |
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| 13:09.55 | abrotman | P-Nuts: you can, but you probably don't want to. The period after a release is pretty volatile in testing |
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| 13:13.42 | lgeesfstj | This command ruby script/server webrick -e production can only run from the /root/red/ directory |
| 13:13.42 | lgeesfstj | How should the script look like to get this working? |
| 13:14.03 | P-Nuts | abrotman: How long before a new testing settles down a bit then? |
| 13:14.08 | omid8bimo | hey how can i set my timezone to GMT? should u put anything on /etc/timezone? |
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| 13:15.18 | abrotman | P-Nuts: depends what you can handle :) |
| 13:16.14 | themill | dpkg: tell omid8bimo about tz |
| 13:18.01 | abrotman | P-Nuts: some people might wait til after the first set of transitions that have been held up .. others wait til the next testing begins to freeze .. others just don't care and deal with the broken bits :) |
| 13:18.49 | lmaowaffle | can i ask for debian-multimedia.org support here? in particular, i've noticed libva-0.31.0.6.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or |
| 13:19.00 | lmaowaffle | > directory , which is preventing mpd from starting |
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| 13:20.27 | lmaowaffle | here's what i have installed from dmo: http://paste2.org/p/879950 |
| 13:21.16 | P-Nuts | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 13:21.41 | Salvia | RESSACA BRASILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL UHULLLLLLLLLLLL futebol, mad bitch, e unespianas life style LOL |
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| 13:22.24 | liable | um, ok.. |
| 13:23.35 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 13:26.12 | abrotman | Salvia: take it somewhere else, we don't like futbol and it's offtopic here |
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| 13:35.49 | kripz | how do i reinstall module r8168? |
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| 13:36.54 | Salvia | abrotman, I'm sorry for using the command / Love in another tab of the server, did not know the xchat was able to send in all the tabs of the server,:) but in the end I do not know what your team but my gain yesterday was happy: * |
| 13:37.05 | Salvia | is command /ame =\ |
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| 13:37.24 | abrotman | kripz: you can reinstall your kernel package |
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| 13:46.22 | pif | what's that tool to write random stuff on a disk? |
| 13:46.27 | pif | to blank it |
| 13:46.33 | liable | shred |
| 13:46.34 | jauiwojau | What is an elegant way to export package selection on system X, so that I can install debian on another system Y with the same packages? |
| 13:46.37 | pif | ah yes |
| 13:46.53 | liable | !clone |
| 13:46.53 | dpkg | our $apt=Blootbot->new($apt) |
| 13:46.54 | chomwitt | hi. can i use regulal expessions in apt-file search ? |
| 13:47.04 | liable | wtf |
| 13:47.13 | liable | !reinstall |
| 13:47.13 | dpkg | somebody said reinstall was aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone> |
| 13:47.14 | themill | dpkg: tell jauiwojau about aptitude clone |
| 13:48.01 | kripz | im having issues compiling my NIC module, it loads correctly but it's buggy and keeps dropping out, could these deprecated errors be the cause? http://pastebin.com/zzRuTGR3 |
| 13:48.22 | jauiwojau | could you please include my name, I now have to figure out which message is for me and which isn't... |
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| 13:49.03 | davis | hello |
| 13:49.17 | jauiwojau | themill: dpkg is a bot? |
| 13:49.34 | themill | !bot |
| 13:49.35 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 13:49.44 | liable | you cant tell from the factoid that its for you? |
| 13:49.47 | jauiwojau | dpkg: sorry :0( |
| 13:49.47 | dpkg | jauiwojau: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 13:50.35 | jauiwojau | dpkg: ah, ok I thouight themill issued a command to a bot. |
| 13:50.36 | dpkg | no idea, jauiwojau |
| 13:51.02 | lgeesfstj | I have a script in a specific folder and I would like to run this script automatic at system startup. The easiest approach would be? |
| 13:51.06 | themill | jauiwojau: dpkg is a bot, and yes I did... you received a /msg from it |
| 13:51.06 | jauiwojau | dpkg: even in spite of your promising name? ;-) |
| 13:51.07 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, jauiwojau |
| 13:52.12 | davis | i recently did an upgrade from lenny to sid. I finally got around to completing the grub upgrade and now it will no longer boot. I have used a rescue CD, did a chroot to the mounted rootfs and then done a /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig but it still fails to boot. I get grub error 15. |
| 13:52.40 | jauiwojau | dpkg: ;-) I won't bother you further. Thanks for trying at least. I think the hint of themill "aptitute clone" is probably enough of a lead for me... |
| 13:52.41 | dpkg | jauiwojau: what are you talking about? |
| 13:52.53 | lmaowaffle | hello. how do i list all packages installed from unstable on my squeeze system? I'm trying to determine if any were pulled in by mistake |
| 13:53.06 | themill | lmaowaffle: /msg dpkg which repo |
| 13:53.33 | jordanm | lmaowaffle: aptitude search ~i~Aunstable |
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| 13:55.15 | sprax_ | How can I completely remove a package, including the config files it created, and re-install it as if it was never installed in the first place? I've googled this and tried all mannager to --force, --reinstall, --purge all to no avail. If anyone has any ideas, please help. |
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| 13:55.31 | themill | jordanm: that doesn't work the way you want it to |
| 13:56.47 | jordanm | themill: I don't have a box to test it on. why is that? |
| 13:57.02 | themill | jordanm: that matches all packages that are installed that also have a version in unstable. |
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| 13:57.42 | jordanm | themill: ah, I actually could test with lenny backports, and I see what you mean |
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| 13:58.22 | themill | jordanm: various amounts of ?narrow() would be require, but even then packages that were in both testing and unstable would match. |
| 13:58.29 | darsie | Hi! How can I edit svg images? |
| 13:58.34 | themill | darsie: inkscape |
| 13:58.40 | darsie | thx |
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| 13:59.50 | jauiwojau | themill: Now I see it is a bot. I missed your message explaining it. Its answer is quite confusing, but funny. |
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| 14:00.19 | darsie | my nfs mounts don't get mounted at boot. How can I fix that? |
| 14:00.28 | jauiwojau | themill: the strange thing is that its answer came BEFORE you issued the command (on my screen). Thus that is why I thought it might be someone joking. |
| 14:00.37 | darsie | other than typing mount /s after boot. |
| 14:00.43 | jauiwojau | themill: or can it read minds? ;-) |
| 14:01.26 | themill | jauiwojau: dpkg is a very smart bot... it has ESP-over-TCP/IP perfected. |
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| 14:02.30 | jarick | themill: It does? But it doesn't properly implement the evil bit |
| 14:02.32 | jauiwojau | themill: ;-) I thought I kept up with publications of scientific break-throughs quite well... Must have missed this one... ;-) |
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| 14:04.31 | comradekingu | darsie put them in fstab |
| 14:04.47 | darsie | comradekingu: I have. |
| 14:05.36 | darsie | comradekingu: 192.168.0.1:/ /s nfs auto,user |
| 14:05.42 | davis | i changed all the (hd0,1) entries in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file to (hd0,0) since my root fs is on /dev/sda1 and did a reboot. Same error. Reboot, "Grub loading stage 1.5, GRUB loading, please wait... Error 15" <stop> |
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| 14:06.29 | jordanm | you mean the grub.cfg that says do not edit this file at the top? |
| 14:07.39 | davis | yes, i also did the /usr/sbin/something grub cmd at the top of that file. |
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| 14:07.51 | davis | i did that previously and it still failed. |
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| 14:10.20 | jordanm | davis: you have to edit /etc/default/grub first. likely now that you have edited the grub.cfg, you will need to rm it and let update-grub2 make a new one |
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| 14:10.47 | j03 | Hi all. I've got a very annoying issue. I'm trying to re-install mysql - Basically, I had it installed previously, then uninstalled it and deleted /etc/mysql/. now, when i try and re-install it fails |
| 14:10.53 | davis | jordanm: tip of the hat to you. let me try that. |
| 14:11.02 | j03 | http://pastebin.com/MREeMfSW |
| 14:11.54 | jordanm | !tell j03 about confmiss |
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| 14:12.08 | jordanm | j03: its likely failing to start because it doesn't have any config files |
| 14:13.48 | davis | hmm |
| 14:14.00 | davis | it found /boot/images |
| 14:14.11 | davis | but cannot find list of partitions |
| 14:14.25 | davis | /proc/mounts is empty. i guess cause I am usinga rescue cd |
| 14:14.31 | j03 | jordanm: Hmm.. It started off looking promising, but same error |
| 14:14.45 | jordanm | davis: mount proc and dev into your chroot |
| 14:15.01 | j03 | jordanm: http://pastebin.com/TFse8Hvu |
| 14:15.13 | davis | pfft Jordanm you rock |
| 14:15.19 | jordanm | davis: mount -t proc none /path/to/mount/proc; mount -o bind /dev /path/to/mount/dev |
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| 14:16.35 | jordanm | j03: tail /var/log/daemon.log |
| 14:16.43 | lgeesfstj | my rc.local script is not running at startup! how could I get it to run? |
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| 14:17.28 | j03 | jordanm: http://pastebin.com/Uhmm4duH |
| 14:17.36 | lindi- | lgeesfstj: sources.list? |
| 14:17.38 | jordanm | lgeesfstj: is rc.local set to execute on startup? |
| 14:18.11 | davis | hmm |
| 14:18.15 | davis | i have /proc |
| 14:18.18 | davis | i have /dev |
| 14:18.20 | lgeesfstj | how do I set it to run at startup? |
| 14:18.35 | davis | but still update-grub2 fails. |
| 14:18.36 | lindi- | lgeesfstj: tell us what's in sources.list -- it depends on your init system too |
| 14:18.45 | davis | Cannot find list of partitions |
| 14:18.52 | jordanm | j03: tail -25 /var/log/daemon.log |
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| 14:19.14 | lgeesfstj | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 201001$ |
| 14:19.14 | lgeesfstj | deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20100131$ |
| 14:19.14 | lgeesfstj | deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
| 14:19.14 | lgeesfstj | deb-src http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
| 14:19.14 | lgeesfstj | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
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| 14:19.16 | davis | cat /proc/partititions shows four entries |
| 14:19.17 | jordanm | davis: inside the chroot? |
| 14:19.26 | davis | yes, i am inside the chroot |
| 14:19.28 | j03 | jordanm: http://pastebin.com/b6fRFtYh |
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| 14:19.33 | jauiwojau | liable: thanks for the answer (given around 15:45). It is difficult to tell from the factiod if you don't know the answer yet, and given the fact other related - but different - topics may be treated by others on the channel. But thanks anyway. |
| 14:19.35 | jordanm | davis: /boot/grub/device.map |
| 14:19.45 | lgeesfstj | that was my source.list did you saw it before I got kicked? |
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| 14:20.15 | lindi- | lgeesfstj: if last line was 'deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main' then yes |
| 14:20.15 | liable | jauiwojau: no problem |
| 14:20.17 | davis | cat /boot/grub/device.map has (hd0) /dev/sda |
| 14:20.22 | davis | that looks promissing. |
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| 14:21.02 | jordanm | j03: netstat -lnp | grep 3306 |
| 14:21.25 | davis | hmm |
| 14:21.28 | j03 | jordanm: http://pastebin.com/NCTV5gvV |
| 14:21.34 | jauiwojau | liable: ok, see ya... |
| 14:21.35 | davis | this guy on anther channel pointed out something |
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| 14:21.41 | lgeesfstj | so how could I get rc.local to run at startup? |
| 14:21.53 | davis | my error is related to the fact that i have a grub 1.5 loader |
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| 14:22.00 | davis | yet my config files are grub 2 |
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| 14:22.14 | jordanm | j03: kill 32488; dpkg --configure -a |
| 14:22.19 | davis | i got this error when I did the upgrade |
| 14:22.20 | lindi- | lgeesfstj: ls -l /etc/rc*/*local*? |
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| 14:22.38 | j03 | jordanm: Wow. So mysql was still running? :S |
| 14:22.47 | j03 | jordanm: Thanks, by the way :D |
| 14:22.47 | davis | and the last thing I did was a command given by the grub install |
| 14:22.48 | andres | Is there a trick to get a list of packages generated from a source package? (without fetching it and checking debian/control)? |
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| 14:22.56 | jordanm | lgeesfstj: using a tool such as sysv-rc-conf |
| 14:22.59 | davis | it said to issue a command to complete the install |
| 14:23.35 | jordanm | davis: upgrade-from-grub-legacy... I filed a bug against that last week (which you should have checked for before doing) |
| 14:23.44 | tking | Has anyone had success getting the GMA500 working in Lenny? |
| 14:23.53 | davis | jordanm: hmm. yes i guess so |
| 14:23.54 | jordanm | I saw it was marked up to release-critical |
| 14:23.59 | davis | that sounded like the command. |
| 14:25.05 | jordanm | ah, no, I didn't file it, just commented/confirm |
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| 14:26.40 | lgeesfstj | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2010-06-09 15:11 /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local |
| 14:26.41 | lgeesfstj | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2010-06-09 15:11 /etc/rc3.d/S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local |
| 14:26.41 | lgeesfstj | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2010-06-09 15:11 /etc/rc4.d/S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local |
| 14:26.41 | lgeesfstj | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2010-06-09 15:11 /etc/rc5.d/S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local |
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| 14:27.07 | lgeesfstj | ok I'll start use pastebin |
| 14:27.08 | jordanm | lgeesfstj: stop pasting in the channel |
| 14:27.22 | jelly | !poulsbo |
| 14:27.22 | dpkg | Poulsbo is the codename of Intel's second-generation ultra mobile PC chipset. Its GMA 500 graphics core is not supported by the intel Xorg driver. ITP xserver-xorg-video-psb filed as Debian bug #533450. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poulsbo_(chipset)#Linux_support |
| 14:27.38 | jelly | hmph |
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| 14:29.13 | jordanm | jelly: that is one looong ITP thread |
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| 14:29.47 | lgeesfstj | I have created my own shell script which I call from rc.local with sh /home/lgeesfstj/run.sh |
| 14:29.56 | lgeesfstj | it this valid? |
| 14:30.05 | jelly | http://bugs.debian.org/533450, yes |
| 14:30.46 | jordanm | gah! and it has one user recommending to another that they install ubuntu's xserver-xorg |
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| 14:32.08 | stranger | anyone using squeeze facing problems with vlc lately? |
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| 14:32.55 | jelly | tking: that bug report doesn't report much success with lenny. |
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| 14:39.55 | cdog69 | need some help with the GuardianOS 3.2.019 running on a Snap Server 4500... all I need to do is RESTART the NFS service and I just can't find the command to run to restart this service... anyone have any ideas? |
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| 14:43.34 | cdog69 | sorry, i lost connection and didnt see if any responses to this question were sent, my apologies for reposting if it bothers anyone |
| 14:44.40 | abrotman | you didn't lose connection, and this is #debian |
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| 15:03.19 | Trekkie | hi people. I migrated my system from Gentoo to Squeeze. At the moment I'm trying to figure out why apache is ignoring my .htaccess files. It worked[TM] in Gentoo |
| 15:03.23 | Trekkie | here's my httpd.conf: http://141.24.172.161/pub/httpd.conf |
| 15:03.26 | Trekkie | any idea? |
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| 15:04.22 | mkad | HI, how to make debian/watch file for this software ? http://sourceforge.net/projects/rgedit/files/rgedit0.7.0.1.tar.bz2/download |
| 15:04.29 | mkad | uscan does not find latest version |
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| 15:06.52 | timeoh | What are the kernel flags that prevent stack-based buffer overflows? |
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| 15:07.38 | timeoh | sorry not for that channel ;) |
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| 15:08.05 | nsadmin | mkad, you're trying to do what, find something in debian from something on sourceforge? |
| 15:08.29 | mkad | nsadmin, I want to make correct debian/watch file for package |
| 15:08.38 | mkad | nsadmin, but it seems that uscan does not find latest version with my current watch file |
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| 15:08.56 | mkad | nsadmin, it is http://sf.net/rgedit/[Rr]gedit(.*)\.tar\.bz2 |
| 15:09.04 | mkad | and I call uscan --repack --rename |
| 15:09.06 | nsadmin | could you give me more context? |
| 15:09.07 | mkad | but nothing |
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| 15:10.07 | hid3nax | Hello everyone. Is there any tool similar to 'cfdisk' in debian for sparc? I can't find cfdisk here... |
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| 15:10.44 | bzed | hid3nax: fdisk :) |
| 15:11.17 | hid3nax | bzed: no, it's boring! |
| 15:11.17 | mkad | nsadmin, any idea? |
| 15:11.26 | hid3nax | I want to have something more graphical |
| 15:11.46 | bzed | hid3nax: fdisk is boring? wtf? |
| 15:12.17 | sprax_ | How can I completely remove a package, including the config files it created, and re-install it as if it was never installed in the first place? I've googled this and tried all mannager to --force, --reinstall, --purge all to no avail. If anyone has any ideas, please help. |
| 15:13.09 | hid3nax | bzed: cfdisk in comparison to fdisk was much more nice for me... |
| 15:13.17 | mkad | sprax_, dpkg -P |
| 15:14.58 | nsadmin | mkad: I don't understand what you're doing yet. could you give me more context? |
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| 15:16.05 | mkad | nsadmin, I am packaging package |
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| 15:16.10 | sprax_ | mkad I did dpkg -P samba and the /etc/samba directory persists... |
| 15:16.12 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 15:16.21 | mkad | nsadmin, and I want make correct watch file |
| 15:16.25 | mkad | nsadmin, so uscan works |
| 15:16.26 | nsadmin | so in your packaging, you want to detect something |
| 15:16.41 | themill | sprax_: /etc/samba will be in the samba-common package |
| 15:16.46 | mkad | nsadmin, I want automatic update to latest upstream version by uscan tool |
| 15:16.55 | mkad | nsadmin, so I can rebuild package for latest version |
| 15:16.59 | mkad | :| |
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| 15:17.16 | nsadmin | ok, now I do understand |
| 15:17.25 | sprax_ | themill Couldn't find package samba-common. BTW: OI |
| 15:17.36 | sprax_ | sorrry for fat fingering the enter. I'm running Lenny... |
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| 15:18.11 | eshat | I am on 64bit (testing). Is there a way to get flashplugin 10.1 ? |
| 15:18.55 | themill | mkad: you need to use the sf.net redirector for that (see the man page for uscan) |
| 15:19.00 | sprax_ | themill and mkad thanks, I combined your suggestions dpkg -P samba-common did the trick |
| 15:19.02 | sprax_ | thanks to all! |
| 15:19.05 | Vroomfondle | not the 10.1 full release, no. Adobe pulled it. |
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| 15:19.29 | nsadmin | mkad: and if I understand, most people here also understand... communication is a good thing :) |
| 15:19.49 | mkad | themill, yes I readed that, but I still dont understand why its not working |
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| 15:20.07 | mkad | thats why I ask for help |
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| 15:21.03 | smhar | anyone using squeeze facing problems with vlc lately? |
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| 15:22.21 | mkad | themill, http://dpaste.com/207980/ |
| 15:22.36 | mkad | themill, though the latest version is 0.7.0.1 |
| 15:23.16 | nsadmin | so it didn't pick up that version |
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| 15:23.50 | davis | this was the page which fixed my grub errors. |
| 15:23.53 | davis | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=547944 |
| 15:24.01 | nsadmin | could you show the filenames for 0.7.0.1? |
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| 15:24.29 | mkad | nsadmin, there are files http://sourceforge.net/projects/rgedit/files/ |
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| 15:24.42 | mkad | nsadmin, but since I am using redirector, my url is a bit different |
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| 15:25.08 | smhar | I can play almost all videos with mplayer but not vlc. vlc can only play mpg but not avi or wmv |
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| 15:25.58 | nsadmin | it looks like the new version does match your regex |
| 15:26.10 | mkad | but it does not |
| 15:26.11 | mkad | somehow |
| 15:26.24 | nsadmin | try getting the full url string |
| 15:26.38 | nsadmin | and match it against the regex you're now using |
| 15:26.42 | nsadmin | maybe use grep |
| 15:26.49 | nsadmin | see if it works |
| 15:27.07 | mkad | nsadmin, this is uscan's reditector |
| 15:27.07 | nsadmin | if it does not match, the problem is your regex |
| 15:27.25 | mkad | url in watchfile does not work if inputed in browser |
| 15:27.27 | nsadmin | if it does match, the problem is maybe sf.net |
| 15:27.28 | hid3nax | How do I deprecate a kernel module? I mean, how do I prevent a module from loading automatically? |
| 15:27.46 | nsadmin | do you understand what I'm asking you to do? |
| 15:28.02 | mkad | to try full url |
| 15:28.07 | nsadmin | let's rule out possibilities |
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| 15:29.14 | eshat | nspluginwrapper fails on adobe flash 10.1 |
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| 15:30.31 | nsadmin | hid3nax: the best way is to start by finding out why it's being loaded and what exactly is loading it |
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| 15:33.25 | hid3nax | nsadmin: well, it might be tough to do it say for the 'ipv6' module. I'd better just blacklist it and that's all |
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| 15:33.57 | nsadmin | up to you |
| 15:34.11 | hid3nax | of course. |
| 15:34.28 | hid3nax | Lately I was just making mu custom kernel without the IPv6.. So no problems |
| 15:34.39 | mkad | nsadmin, I found problem |
| 15:34.42 | hid3nax | but now I have a slow sparc machine and I'm too lazy to make another one |
| 15:34.46 | mkad | nsadmin, http://qa.debian.org/watch/sf.php/rgedit |
| 15:34.54 | mkad | nsadmin, its qa.debian.org that is not updated yet |
| 15:35.07 | nsadmin | aha |
| 15:35.14 | nsadmin | what would cause that |
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| 15:35.38 | nsadmin | does someone have to "allow" the version to be seen somehow? |
| 15:35.53 | nsadmin | when did 0.7.0.1 come out? |
| 15:36.13 | nsadmin | how often does qa.d.o update? |
| 15:36.14 | mkad | nsadmin, 10 days ago |
| 15:36.21 | mkad | nsadmin, last updated 10 June |
| 15:36.32 | mkad | sorry 5 June |
| 15:36.36 | nsadmin | so qa updates less often than 10 days |
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| 15:36.53 | mkad | qa update Sat, 05 Jun 10 23:58:50 |
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| 15:37.17 | noahir | how to install 32bit glibc to x86_64 debian ? |
| 15:37.33 | mkad | nsadmin, release 08 06 2010 |
| 15:37.46 | mkad | nsadmin, so it was released 3 days after database update |
| 15:37.50 | nsadmin | june 8? |
| 15:37.56 | mkad | yeah |
| 15:38.04 | nsadmin | ok, so that would be why it didn't see it |
| 15:38.36 | mkad | I wonder how frequent they update qa or is it possible to push them |
| 15:39.04 | nsadmin | is it that updates are triggered by a person? |
| 15:39.17 | nsadmin | updates of qa.d.o that is |
| 15:39.40 | mkad | I dont know |
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| 15:39.52 | lepra | do you know any netinstall installation guide for the expert installation process? I couldn't find it... |
| 15:39.56 | nsadmin | mkad: in any case it looks like your code is working after all |
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| 15:40.18 | mkad | nsadmin, yes, uscan documentation recommends to use redirector due to often changing sf.net urls |
| 15:40.35 | mkad | nsadmin, but anyway qa.debian is updated less frequently then sf changes their urls |
| 15:40.40 | mkad | :| |
| 15:40.51 | nsadmin | so this redirector avoids having to depend on qa? |
| 15:41.25 | mkad | nsadmin, redirector is script on qa.debian.org which searches sf.net, so you dont have input raw urls to sf.net which change "a lot" |
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| 15:41.50 | mkad | nsadmin, but it looks like sf.net change their urls less often then qa update database ;] |
| 15:42.45 | mkad | I will look it up at home |
| 15:42.47 | mkad | cya and thanks |
| 15:42.50 | themill | mkad: hang on... |
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| 15:42.59 | nsadmin | all I did was ask questions :P |
| 15:43.07 | mkad | themill, ? |
| 15:43.20 | themill | mkad: it looks like either the sf.net redirector is broken or that file hasn't hit the sf.net mirrors properly. |
| 15:43.32 | nsadmin | at first I didn't even know what you wanted to do |
| 15:43.39 | mkad | themill, well I can download file manualy |
| 15:43.42 | mkad | themill, so its there |
| 15:43.59 | mkad | themill, and database of qa was updated 5 june as it is said on website |
| 15:44.11 | themill | mkad: (and yes, sf.net changes its URLs every few months and uscan has to be kept working for a period of years) |
| 15:44.13 | mkad | themill, the release of upstream source was 8 th june |
| 15:44.28 | themill | mkad: the qa database only uses the information in the watch file that you have already established is not working |
| 15:44.57 | mkad | themill, http://qa.debian.org/watch/sf.php/rgedit |
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| 15:45.07 | mkad | themill, Last database update: Sat, 05 Jun 10 23:58:50 +0000 |
| 15:45.18 | mkad | software was release 8th June |
| 15:45.34 | nsadmin | but if it helped you to think things through, you're welcome. this is the highest form of help I can offer, to be catalyst for thought. |
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| 15:48.03 | mkad | themill, php script on qa.debian.org side does search for packages not in debian, if you type url for redirector its using its own database and does not depend on watch file I wrote. |
| 15:48.22 | mkad | themill, what I mean is that database is outdated |
| 15:48.40 | clemyeats | apt-cache policy doesn't return any info related to unsigned repos, is that a bug or a feature? one can only pin using the origin when that's the case. |
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| 15:50.39 | themill | mkad: my understanding was that it didn't run off a database but queried live. But hang on a sec while I try to find out for you. In any case, if this is for a private package, you can use http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/r/project/rg/rgedit/[Rr]gedit(.*)\.tar\.bz2 as your watchfile line (but if this is for a debian package, you shouldn't do that). |
| 15:50.42 | mkad | themill, or qa script is broken |
| 15:51.09 | mkad | themill, this is for debian package |
| 15:51.38 | mkad | themill, somehow http://qa.debian.org/watch/sf.php/rgedit does not show 0.7.0.1 version which is visible on sourceforge |
| 15:51.43 | mkad | and I can download it |
| 15:51.52 | themill | yes. yes,.. stop repeating yourself. I understand. |
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| 15:52.32 | mkad | themill, if you find a solution that would be very helpful and thanks:) |
| 15:52.52 | themill | mkad: For the time being, just ignore the fact that the sf.net redirector isn't doing the right thing and carry on your merry way and use uupdate (or svn-update or git-import-orig or whatever you normally use) with the tarball you've downloaded. I've already prodded about the sf.net redirector to find out what the story is. |
| 15:53.23 | mkad | themill, ok I will use uupdate |
| 15:53.32 | mkad | themill, thanks for help and cya |
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| 15:54.30 | smhar | I can play almost all videos with mplayer but not vlc. vlc can only play mpg but not avi or wmv |
| 15:54.54 | mkad | themill, package is already in debian gedit-r-plugin, if you find out something about problem with redirector can you forward it to me? or potential solution ? there is maintainer email. I have to go now. Cya |
| 15:55.08 | valdyn | smhar: avi and wmv are both containers, not codecs. It can play both, but not all possible codecs inside |
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| 15:55.24 | valdyn | !w32codecs |
| 15:55.25 | dpkg | w32codecs is a <non-free> package not distributed by Debian due to legal issues. The package provides codecs for several multimedia formats, such as DivX ;-), RealAudio/RealVideo, and Windows Media. To get w32codecs, ask me about <debian-multimedia>. If you are looking for similar plugins for <gstreamer>, then look at the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg-full packages. |
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| 15:58.08 | jordanm | smhar: please do not cross-post |
| 15:58.12 | harry-houdini1 | how do i get off the debian user mailing list for the debian-desktop-request@lists.debian.org I send them back the confirmation and it says it failed i put the number in the header and it is right |
| 15:58.22 | harry-houdini1 | very annoying...sigh |
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| 15:59.54 | smhar | valdyn, these are some of the codecs vlc compained about: cook, RV20, xvid, div3, h263, samr, wma2, wmv2, DX50, WMV3 |
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| 16:00.32 | NIMA | hi , i have a eth2 device as my wifi device but i can't do any thing with it ? any idea? |
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| 16:01.37 | stranger_ | valdyn, these are some of the codecs vlc compained about: cook, RV20, xvid, div3, h263, samr, wma2, wmv2, DX50, WMV3 |
| 16:01.40 | stranger_ | valdyn, w32codecs is installed |
| 16:01.46 | stranger_ | jordanm, sorry, there was no activity here at all so I tried the other channel |
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| 16:03.01 | stranger_ | valdyn, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg-full packages are installed as well |
| 16:03.03 | lepra | selecting targeted drivers support on debian installation will give me problems when trying to use pendrives, usb mouse, etc? |
| 16:03.07 | valdyn | stranger_: ffmpeg not installed? |
| 16:03.11 | valdyn | stranger_: nm |
| 16:03.18 | valdyn | stranger_: gstreamer is unrelated to vlc |
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| 16:03.54 | stranger_ | valdyn, ffmpeg is installed |
| 16:04.09 | valdyn | stranger_: yea, i saw that on your ffmpeg gstreamer package |
| 16:04.22 | valdyn | stranger_: install the w32codecs |
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| 16:04.31 | stranger_ | valdyn, it is installed |
| 16:04.46 | valdyn | stranger_: then the movie or vlc is broken |
| 16:04.59 | valdyn | stranger_: tried mplayer? |
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| 16:05.19 | Bop | <fALSO> Ex-Destiny's Child member Kelly Rowland says she'll never swim with dolphins again after one pooped on her face. |
| 16:05.30 | craigevil | testing has the same version of vlc as sid , it works fine in sid with w32codecs installed and ffmpeg from dmm |
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| 16:05.50 | stranger_ | valdyn, mplayer can play all those files that I tried, but I want vlc. I used to play them with vlc but for some reason, now I can not |
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| 16:06.07 | valdyn | i have not had a movie that i could not play for a long time and i dont even have w32 |
| 16:06.20 | valdyn | stranger_: sorry, i dont know vlc specifics |
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| 16:06.45 | valdyn | stranger_: just obviously something about your vlc is broken or misconfigured |
| 16:06.45 | cahoot | stranger_: run vlc from cammandline and see if there's any error msg? |
| 16:06.49 | craigevil | dont really need w32codecs, ffmpeg has most if not all of it builtin if you use the one from dmm |
| 16:07.00 | valdyn | right |
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| 16:09.08 | jalalsfs | Hi |
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| 16:09.43 | stranger_ | cahoot, this is the output of a video that I used to be able to play with vlc and now I can only play it with mplayer: http://paste.debian.net/77646/ |
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| 16:10.04 | jalalsfs | Is there in debian like this yum-presto http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeaturePresto in Fedora ? |
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| 16:12.14 | jordanm | jalalsfs: IMO there is much less of a need in debian as it wouldn't get anywhere close to the ammount of updates a fedora system (assuming debian stable) |
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| 16:12.59 | jordanm | jalalsfs: there are things such as apt-proxy for reduction of bandwidth, but nothing quite like that AFAIK |
| 16:13.15 | themill | there are debdeltas around |
| 16:13.34 | themill | ,info debdelta |
| 16:13.35 | judd | debdelta (devel, optional): diff and patch utilities which work with Debian packages. Version: 0.27; Size: 46.9k; Installed: 156k |
| 16:14.22 | jalalsfs | jordanm: Is there in testing debian? Or just in stable version? |
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| 16:14.48 | Tadys | buy www.kernel.lt |
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| 16:15.41 | stranger_ | am I missing a package that was removed by mistake? |
| 16:16.16 | craigevil | stranger_: are you using ffmpeg from the debian repos or from dmm? you can try removing the vlcrc , might just be a config issue |
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| 16:17.03 | stranger_ | I have both in repos so I assume I am using the dmm |
| 16:17.40 | craigevil | since you are using pulse did you install vlc-plugin-pulse |
| 16:17.51 | starenka_ | hi, i got "old server" w/ 2xXeon. Been trying to install squeeze, but it hangs on formatting disk. ext2/3/4 -> red screen - can't format. i've been in a rush so i picked xfs. I need several xp virtual machines, so i did use kvm to run them. It seems the system has biiig problems w/ disk speed (i.e creating 15GB vdisk took about 10mins). any suggestions? |
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| 16:17.56 | jelly | ,versions debdelta |
| 16:17.59 | judd | debdelta -- etch: 0.19; lenny: 0.27; squeeze: 0.39; sid: 0.39trl |
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| 16:18.25 | jelly | starenka_: install lenny, then /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 16:19.00 | jalalsfs | Thank for all so much. |
| 16:19.14 | jelly | starenka_: if you can, use Debian stable for servers, anything else is a... less than a sensible choice |
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| 16:20.55 | starenka_ | jelly: hm, well i knew smbdy is about to say this, but the question was more like: why the hell i can't format ext and why is xfs that slow? (my dev machine runs squeeze w/ ext3 and it's much faster that this "server") |
| 16:20.56 | jordanm | jelly: I disagree |
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| 16:22.03 | jelly | starenka_: "why the hell" -- because you're using a testing or a snapshot version of d-i |
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| 16:22.51 | jelly | starenka_: that's for ext[234]. I have no clue about xfs, except for vaguely remembering it likes to know the layout of the raid array used below |
| 16:22.52 | starenka_ | jelly: im using it right now without any problems. Telling it's not stable is not an answer. (no offense) |
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| 16:23.59 | jelly | starenka_: without any problems? All right then |
| 16:24.18 | starenka_ | i mean on this computer (my machine) |
| 16:25.40 | jelly | there has been at least one other report of issues with ext[34]fs in d-i testing |
| 16:25.50 | jelly | (I mean, here on irc) |
| 16:26.10 | themill | e2fsprogs was hosed for a week or so, wasn't it? |
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| 16:27.00 | jelly | starenka_: the generic safe way of installing testing is to install stable, then upgrade |
| 16:27.20 | starenka_ | okay |
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| 16:28.05 | JyZyXEL | i wonder if squeeze will default to ext4 |
| 16:28.18 | jelly | I hope not, the thing's buggy |
| 16:28.36 | starenka_ | anyway...regarding the slow disk speed w/ xfs? |
| 16:28.42 | JyZyXEL | oh i was under the impression that it's kinda old enough for that |
| 16:28.51 | JyZyXEL | atleast in few years when squeeze becomes stable |
| 16:29.01 | nsadmin | JyZyXEL: age does not imply quality |
| 16:29.09 | JyZyXEL | i see |
| 16:29.23 | jelly | it might be good enough for casual use |
| 16:29.24 | nsadmin | either it works well or it doesn't no matter how old it is |
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| 16:30.17 | jelly | it's been working on my laptop for a year or so; but then, it failed miserably on a somewhat busy mail server |
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| 16:32.15 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 16:32.16 | lenswipe | i have a file server, i have a public folder on that file server, i want all my users home directories to have a folder in called public, but when they click that folder they see the public folder and have all the permissions ascocated with that folder |
| 16:32.22 | lenswipe | im thinking of using a symlink |
| 16:32.27 | lenswipe | is that the right tool for the job? |
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| 16:33.05 | nsadmin | still not quite clear |
| 16:33.41 | nsadmin | so you have users with home dirs, you want each home dir to have a folder called public, you have a folder called public |
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| 16:33.47 | nsadmin | that's all I understand so far |
| 16:34.02 | nsadmin | it's not enough for understanding what you want |
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| 16:34.50 | mms | I have hdd under lvm and ROOT lvm taking whole hdd. Now I want to parition hdd, reduce ROOT logical volume. can I some how install live on hdd, boot with it using grub and also resize hdd ? |
| 16:35.20 | lenswipe | nsadmin, when a user saves something to the public folder on their home dir, it is to be put into the proper public folder |
| 16:35.26 | lenswipe | is it a symlink im after? |
| 16:36.18 | nsadmin | you could have something like public/people/(put homedir/public symlinks here) |
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| 16:37.00 | karlpinc | mms: You don't need a live cd, boot in single user mode and then mount / read-only "mount -o remount,ro /" |
| 16:37.25 | jordanm | IIRC single user mode mounts it ro by default |
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| 16:37.56 | mms | well so if I go into single user mode shall I be able to do resize of ROOT ? |
| 16:38.10 | karlpinc | jordanm: I find it hard to tell because /etc/mnt is not writable the mount command does not give the right answers once / is ro. |
| 16:38.10 | lenswipe | nsadmin, i would have /home/username/public |
| 16:38.26 | lenswipe | nsadmin, and when the user puts something in their, it actually gets put into /home/public |
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| 16:39.01 | karlpinc | mms: Yes. First resize the filesystem, then shrink the partition. (Things like parted might do it all for you with one command, or not. That's how I do it.) |
| 16:39.07 | nsadmin | and then you would have /home/public/username/(whever is in their public)? |
| 16:39.19 | mms | ok cool...let me try... |
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| 16:39.39 | karlpinc | jordanm: Any clues has to how to tell whether / is really ro? |
| 16:39.47 | nsadmin | so users are u1, u2, u3 |
| 16:40.20 | jordanm | karlpinc: touch a file and see if it errors? not great but should work |
| 16:40.37 | karlpinc | jordanm: Doh! ;-) |
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| 16:41.45 | mmestnik | Hello, I'm looking for a term I once read about. It was basically explaining that you can infer things based on outside information. For example the time an SSL handshake took could be used to more accurately guess the contents of a key or rather it could be used to rule out keys that would have taken longer. |
| 16:42.06 | nsadmin | so they do something like... foreach u (u1 u2 u3) {create file /home/$u/public/$u-{a,b,c}} |
| 16:42.39 | nsadmin | so u1 for example has created public/u1-a, u1-b, u1-c |
| 16:42.48 | mms | mount shows that /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) |
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| 16:42.58 | nsadmin | what happens in /home/public? |
| 16:43.19 | mms | also /dev/mapper/mini-root on / type ext3 (rw, errors=remount-ro) |
| 16:43.22 | mmestnik | I thought it was look aside attack, but now that refers to some memory management dodad for visualization. |
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| 16:43.56 | mms | I guess so do I need to umount any thing ? |
| 16:45.09 | karlpinc | mms: No. You don't want to mess with /boot, likely. Whatever you do change must be mounted read-only. |
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| 16:46.10 | VectorX | i got a .deb file how do i install it |
| 16:46.18 | mms | ok so now what command to use: resize2fs /dev/mapper/mini-root 524288 ........what blocks to give ? |
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| 16:47.30 | jordanm | VectorX: using dpkg |
| 16:47.51 | VectorX | ok |
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| 16:48.57 | karlpinc | mms: mount is wrong after / is mounted ro, with respect to what's ro and what's not. |
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| 16:50.25 | dondelelcaro | VectorX: you shouldn't just install random deb packages |
| 16:50.50 | lenswipe | guys |
| 16:50.59 | lenswipe | what permissions should the profiles folder have? |
| 16:51.12 | lenswipe | the one that samba looks at when logging users on |
| 16:51.18 | lenswipe | and who should it be owned by |
| 16:51.22 | lenswipe | same for the netlogon folder |
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| 16:51.33 | jordanm | lenswipe: #samba |
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| 16:51.44 | lenswipe | jordanm, .....which is completely dead |
| 16:51.50 | tuxpenguin | hi |
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| 16:52.28 | jordanm | lenswipe: in general, you want the most restrictive permissions while still functioning |
| 16:53.12 | mms | karlpinc: I dont quite get it. what right command for resize2fs .....do I pass in /dev/hda ? |
| 16:53.16 | lenswipe | jordanm, yeah, thing is im not sure what those are |
| 16:53.22 | mms | karlo |
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| 16:53.31 | lenswipe | jordanm, ive seen me set it to 777 -R and it still say its unable to write there |
| 16:53.37 | jordanm | lenswipe: the package's defaults are likely find |
| 16:53.50 | lenswipe | jordanm, where do i find those? |
| 16:53.57 | jordanm | s/find/fine/ |
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| 16:54.04 | jordanm | lenswipe: why? did you already modify the perms? |
| 16:54.24 | lenswipe | jordanm, no, its just samba doesnt create the netlogon folders and stuff for you as far as im aware |
| 16:54.31 | mms | karlpinc: resize2fs /dev/hda1 or use /dev/hda2 9G ....to resize to 9G ...currently its 15G |
| 16:54.40 | lenswipe | jordanm, or if it does it creates them in a weird place |
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| 16:54.54 | lenswipe | i think /usr/share/samba or something |
| 16:55.05 | jordanm | lenswipe: which would be explained in the Debian.README most likely |
| 16:55.26 | lenswipe | jordanm, which is located where? |
| 16:55.53 | jordanm | lenswipe: /usr/share/doc/<package>/*, like with all other documentation |
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| 16:56.01 | lenswipe | ty |
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| 16:56.40 | jordanm | lenswipe: but to answer your other question, dpkg --contents displays the file with their ownership and perms |
| 16:57.23 | iw | I am having issues with the fglrx-driver package -- after I install it, I cannot use aticonfig as it throws the warning "Cannot find /etc/ati/control." dpkg-query -L fglrx-driver lists /etc/ati/control as one of the files in the package, but I don't even have an /etc/ati directory. I tried removing and reinstalling the package, but no luck. What could be going wrong? |
| 16:58.13 | lenswipe | jordanm, doesnt ls -lA do that too? |
| 16:58.30 | mms | karlpinc: resize2fs /dev/hda1 or use /dev/hda2 9G ....to resize to 9G ...currently its 15G |
| 16:59.37 | lenswipe | also is there a way to make a folder readable, writable but only deletable by root? |
| 16:59.39 | iw | crap sorry if anyone was planning on answering, i have to log out |
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| 17:01.34 | jordanm | lenswipe: you can make it only deletable by owner with chmod +t |
| 17:01.51 | lenswipe | jordanm, oh really? cool |
| 17:02.03 | lenswipe | will that wipe out the 777 permissions on it? |
| 17:02.06 | lenswipe | bear in mind its a public folder |
| 17:02.27 | jordanm | lenswipe: no, the sticky bit is seperate from rwx perms |
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| 17:02.49 | lenswipe | <3 sticky bit |
| 17:02.52 | lenswipe | :D |
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| 17:03.20 | lenswipe | jordanm, if i set that on a symlinked directory, will that replicate to the symlinks too? |
| 17:03.25 | lenswipe | or do i have to set that on each symlink? |
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| 17:06.10 | jelly | lenswipe: you set the sticky bit on the _directory_ where the files (or symlinks) are placed |
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| 17:06.32 | jelly | lenswipe: then the symlinks can't be removed |
| 17:06.43 | ohgodwha | hey guys, how do a make gnome not open a new window for every folder? |
| 17:06.47 | lindenle | Can I install a 32 bit version of tsocks on my machine (64 bit) using aptitude? |
| 17:07.04 | lenswipe | jelly, kk |
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| 17:07.10 | jordanm | ohgodwha: in the perferences somewhere there is an option "always open in browser mode" or similar |
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| 17:07.23 | lenswipe | jelly, oh, i just set it on a symlink, it seems to have replicated back to the actual symlinked folder |
| 17:07.24 | lenswipe | cool :D |
| 17:07.27 | cahoot | ohgodwha: I guess you mean nautilus |
| 17:08.00 | cahoot | ohgodwha: gconf-editor might be the tool for changing that |
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| 17:08.11 | ohgodwha | I'm looking in file management prefs |
| 17:08.14 | ohgodwha | but I don't think its there |
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| 17:08.40 | jelly | lenswipe: that's just how symlinks work |
| 17:08.46 | lenswipe | jelly, cool :D |
| 17:09.02 | lenswipe | pokes jelly |
| 17:09.11 | mms | karlpinc: mount -o remount,ro / ......gives root is busy |
| 17:09.19 | jelly | wobbles |
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| 17:09.34 | lenswipe | jelly, yay, i was hoping youd do that - haha |
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| 17:10.12 | ohgodwha | cahoot: where can I find gconf-editor? |
| 17:10.28 | lenswipe | jelly, little things please little minds i guess, :p |
| 17:10.34 | cahoot | ohgodwha: gconf-editor can be run from a terminal |
| 17:11.05 | ohgodwha | ah, thank you |
| 17:11.56 | mms | karlpinc: mount -o remount,ro / ......gives root is busy |
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| 17:14.29 | goncalo | is there any writeups on removing grub2 and keeping grub legacy on sid? I just upgraded (etch>lenny>sid) and after that I booted with grub2 chainloaded from grub and everything was fine, but after upgrading, I am getting the 'error 15' and after tweaking the hell out of it, it seems like I've broke things seriously, so I'd like to go back into something I'm comfortable with, until I have time to play with grub2.. :-) |
| 17:15.14 | abrotman | goncalo: i doubt it would be supported .. i believe grub is about to be EoL |
| 17:15.15 | dk | Hi all! If I'm running Lenny (libc6 2.7), can I install a newer package (something from sid, for example) instead of the Lenny package? (or will this not work because sid has a newer libc) |
| 17:15.25 | mms | karlpinc: / is not ro in single user mode. I did ...touch a .... in /root and it was creating files.. |
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| 17:16.00 | goncalo | abrotman: thanks, I'll try to fix it then, at least to a point where I can boot ;-) |
| 17:16.03 | mms | karlpinc: I guess I need to do some boot command line to mount / as ro ....any idea ? |
| 17:17.02 | abrotman | goncalo: is there something weird about your system ? |
| 17:17.08 | abrotman | lvm? mdadm ? |
| 17:17.15 | mms | any one knows how to umount / in single user mode so I can resize2fs... |
| 17:17.24 | mms | I am under lvm |
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| 17:19.14 | themill | abrotman: zobel was complaining today about a broken grub package (presumably a recent upload). |
| 17:19.37 | abrotman | yay |
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| 17:20.57 | mms | I am unable to umount / |
| 17:21.16 | JyZyXEL | that happends |
| 17:21.21 | mms | any one knows how in single user mode I can umount / so then I can resize... |
| 17:21.39 | amee2k | how can i make md5sum recusively travese a directory tree? |
| 17:21.43 | JyZyXEL | which filesystem btw? |
| 17:21.57 | mms | karlpinc: any one knows how in single user mode I can umount / so then I can resize... |
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| 17:23.05 | JyZyXEL | amee2k: i guess you would use find for that |
| 17:23.08 | goncalo | abrotman: nothing weird, afaik :) what got you asking that? |
| 17:23.25 | JyZyXEL | and -exec |
| 17:23.26 | amee2k | JyZyXEL: like md5sum $(find ...) ? |
| 17:23.35 | amee2k | hm. |
| 17:23.55 | amee2k | that exec thing sounds like it could work |
| 17:23.59 | JyZyXEL | find allows you to execute a command on files it finds |
| 17:24.08 | amee2k | even better than an md5sum native solution |
| 17:24.40 | amee2k | because i can better control which files end up in the checksum... i want to diff the databases of two dokuwiki installations |
| 17:24.53 | craigevil | goncalo: grub-legacy is still in the sid repo, grub2 has worked here with no issues for a few months now |
| 17:26.41 | goncalo | craigevil: I do understand that it works, but...it does not work always, searches on google shows plenty of ubuntu users, debian and archlinux with similar issues as me |
| 17:27.13 | goncalo | the only thing I suppose may be different from your standard user, is that this is an hp dl 365 g1, with an hp smart controller (cciss) |
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| 17:27.45 | craigevil | goncalo: you can reinstall grub-legacy it is in the repos |
| 17:27.46 | zobel | themill: it looks my grub doesn't find stage1_5 or 2 |
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| 17:28.08 | goncalo | then again, these servers are pretty standard in enterprises, however, I am not so confident a lot of enterprises would be putting sid/squeeze in these unless there'd be a very good reason to do s |
| 17:28.19 | goncalo | I'm doing that, thanks craigevil |
| 17:28.42 | jelly | goncalo: enterprises typically don't run sid |
| 17:28.45 | themill | zobel: sounds like a different problem to goncalo then |
| 17:29.07 | goncalo | yeah, it's obvious :) |
| 17:29.27 | jelly | goncalo: $employer has quite a number of etch, some lenny and sarge installations in prod. and a woody. |
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| 17:30.03 | amee2k | firefox... |
| 17:30.07 | goncalo | :-) I wouldn't put debian in production myself, then again, this is going to be a development box |
| 17:30.12 | amee2k | its 3.0. |
| 17:30.15 | goncalo | so I feel like using the bleeding edge |
| 17:30.29 | amee2k | that explains why i can't install any addons on this thing |
| 17:30.32 | amee2k | wtf |
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| 17:30.43 | themill | wonders if amee2k is going to actually ask a question |
| 17:30.54 | Elysium-OS | Hello everybody, does anybody else have the issue that partman fails on the testing CD of "Lenny"? Error: mkfs.ext3: /lib/libblkid.so.1: version `BLKID_2.17' not found (required by mkfs.ext3) |
| 17:31.08 | amee2k | wonders if stable packages will always remain this ... stable. |
| 17:31.11 | themill | wonders if the answer is going to be identical to the one he gave amee2k 8 hours ago |
| 17:31.32 | amee2k | commences masturbation |
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| 17:32.13 | jelly | Elysium-OS: that doesn't look like lenny. |
| 17:32.51 | themill | that's a known bug in the squeeze installer from last week |
| 17:33.02 | Elysium-OS | Sorry you are right, 6.0 = Squeeze |
| 17:33.20 | Elysium-OS | Okay, is there a work around? |
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| 17:33.41 | petern_ | use a different filesystem? heh |
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| 17:35.00 | Elysium-OS | well I could, I am just testing upgrading all my software |
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| 17:35.59 | petern_ | mkfs.ext3: /lib/libblkid.so.1: version `BLKID_2.17' not found (required by mkfs.ext3) |
| 17:36.02 | petern_ | oh yeah |
| 17:36.15 | petern_ | bug in squeeze then, not just the installer |
| 17:36.37 | Elysium-OS | Okay, in that case, can I boot from JFS? |
| 17:36.57 | petern_ | you can boot from ext3 |
| 17:37.11 | petern_ | just not make new filesystems |
| 17:37.22 | petern_ | so are you upgrading or doing a new install? |
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| 17:37.45 | Elysium-OS | new install and testing my installation manuals |
| 17:38.09 | djveer | Hey guys, anybody tried this Linux-powered linksys router? the E2100L? http://homestore.cisco.com/en-us/Routers/Linksys-E2100L-Advanced-Wirelessn-router-linux_stcVVproductId97826162VVcatId551966VVviewprod.htm t |
| 17:38.21 | djveer | or know if it's any good |
| 17:38.42 | Elysium-OS | So, in a way I am upgrading but I use new installs ;-) |
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| 17:39.48 | jelly | Elysium-OS: install lenny and do a /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze ? |
| 17:40.10 | petern_ | any file system should be bootable |
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| 17:40.34 | Elysium-OS | Then for now I'll stick to JFS |
| 17:40.48 | Elysium-OS | thanks everybody |
| 17:40.55 | mms | I just checked grub single user mode entries and it shows kernel with root with ro option. I guess it mounts root with read only then. Now how can I resize2fs....what should be its device ? |
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| 17:49.36 | mms | any ones knows how can I resize the / in single user mode...its using lvm... |
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| 17:49.56 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 17:50.00 | lenswipe | how do i install JDK on lenny? |
| 17:50.04 | aguitel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:51.21 | mms | karlpinc: any ones knows how can I resize the / in single user mode...its using lvm... |
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| 17:52.24 | craigevil | lenswipe: aptitude install sun-java6-jdk or aptitude install openjdk-6-jdk |
| 17:53.03 | bolt | mms: i think you need to boot from something else to do that |
| 17:53.33 | lenswipe | craigevil, thanks :D |
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| 17:53.50 | mms | bolt: karlpinc said that in single user mode it could be done... |
| 17:54.26 | bolt | mms: maybe. but if you boot from something else, you can resize it just like you resize any other partition |
| 17:55.05 | mms | bolt: I guess yes but I would like to do it from hdd boot itself...I dont wan to use live... |
| 17:55.17 | bolt | mms: your choice |
| 17:56.07 | mms | bolt: actually the image size is more than 256MB and I dont have a pen drive close enough large for it |
| 17:56.25 | mms | bolt: so if I can get by with single user mode ...better... |
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| 17:57.23 | tharkun | Bushmills: I am having trouble with qingy can you lend me a hand? |
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| 17:58.38 | mms | karlpinc: you around ? |
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| 17:59.21 | bolt | doesn't damn small linux or something have lvm support? |
| 18:00.28 | jordanm | knoppix does |
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| 18:00.37 | bolt | jordanm: he needs <256MB |
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| 18:00.51 | jordanm | the gentoo minimal install cd does |
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| 18:01.10 | cranvil | SystemRescueCd or grml small should do the trick |
| 18:01.12 | bolt | actually, doesn't the debian one as well? |
| 18:01.13 | tharkun | 256 MB hdd or ram? |
| 18:01.24 | bolt | usb key, apparently |
| 18:01.27 | jordanm | bolt: debian live does not include lvm AFAIK |
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| 18:01.54 | tharkun | netinst is 180 MB plenty of space to include lvm |
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| 18:02.10 | bolt | seems to remember that's in there |
| 18:02.13 | bolt | might be wrong though |
| 18:02.37 | cobra-the-joker | i have a CD for debian lenny 5.0.1 ... should i download the 5.0.4 version ... or can i upgrade |
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| 18:03.09 | bolt | cobra-the-joker: just install it. you can upgrade with apt-get/aptitude |
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| 18:03.42 | jeward | I installed a minimal lenny system, rebooted into it, and issued: aptitude instal xserver-xorg-core gdm and it's hanging at 99% [Working] for five minutes now? |
| 18:03.59 | jeward | Any idea what it needs? |
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| 18:04.07 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 18:04.08 | jordanm | jeward: presumably without the typo? |
| 18:04.12 | lenswipe | where should i install netbeans to? |
| 18:04.12 | aguitel | anyone in squeeze have problem with last kernel ? |
| 18:04.15 | tharkun | jeward: It takes time to download that many programs |
| 18:04.25 | jordanm | lenswipe: wherever the package installs it to |
| 18:04.26 | lenswipe | does /usr/bin/netbeans sound good? |
| 18:04.29 | jeward | jordanm: Yeah, sasn typo. |
| 18:04.34 | bolt | jeward: check your system logs. you could just kill it and restart as well. it should continue where it left off |
| 18:04.39 | _anonymouse | aguitel: No problems here so far |
| 18:04.41 | jordanm | lenswipe: no, manual installs belong in /usr/local/ |
| 18:04.42 | lenswipe | jordanm, well the default is my home directory, which i dont think is quite right |
| 18:04.48 | lenswipe | jordanm, ok |
| 18:04.55 | jordanm | lenswipe: or /opt |
| 18:05.01 | aguitel | _anonymouse, my sistem become more slowly |
| 18:05.06 | jeward | bolt: Thanks! It did. :) |
| 18:05.10 | jordanm | lenswipe: the debian package _does not_ install to your homedir |
| 18:05.26 | lenswipe | jordanm, no im doing a manual install of netbeans |
| 18:05.35 | lenswipe | jordanm, it says /usr/local is read only |
| 18:05.36 | bolt | jeward: if it happens again, you might want to check for the real problem though |
| 18:05.38 | lenswipe | do i run the installer as root? |
| 18:05.47 | jeward | bolt: Will do, thanks again! |
| 18:05.52 | bolt | np |
| 18:05.53 | _anonymouse | aguitel: I don't know if it matters but I use 64-bit kernel |
| 18:05.53 | jordanm | lenswipe: sounds like you are not root, but you probably want /opt for that kind of installation |
| 18:06.41 | lenswipe | Jordan_U, it says thats is read only too |
| 18:06.50 | lenswipe | am i ok to run the installer with sudO/ |
| 18:06.52 | lenswipe | sudo* |
| 18:06.53 | bolt | lenswipe: yes |
| 18:06.54 | aguitel | _anonymouse, i have laptop with 64 bits and the graphic card ATI is not working |
| 18:06.57 | lenswipe | ok |
| 18:06.59 | jordanm | !sudosmite lenswipe |
| 18:06.59 | dpkg | takes a lump of 2x4 to lenswipe and yells "This is not #ubuntu!!!1!" |
| 18:07.17 | lenswipe | what then? |
| 18:07.19 | bolt | ubuntu doesn't use sudo or something? |
| 18:07.20 | lenswipe | su -? |
| 18:07.26 | lenswipe | bolt, yeah it does |
| 18:07.36 | jordanm | bolt: debian does not use sudo by default |
| 18:07.43 | _anonymouse | aguitel: I got my nVidia card working but then my machine is 3 yrs old |
| 18:07.57 | jordanm | lenswipe: yes |
| 18:08.27 | bolt | jordanm: the minimal install hardly uses anything at all. doesn't prevent you from installing it. what's wrong with sudo? |
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| 18:08.35 | lenswipe | jordanm, would it not have the same effect for this? |
| 18:08.44 | bolt | lenswipe: use either |
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| 18:09.09 | craigevil | aguitel: http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
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| 18:09.38 | aguitel | craigevil, i followed this link |
| 18:10.15 | aguitel | craigevil, my ati is hd 3200 |
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| 18:10.25 | jordanm | lenswipe: yes, but my opinion is that a user should not have access to do _everything_ using sudo |
| 18:10.40 | jj3666 | Squeeze-After latest updates new kernel not installing. its asking if /dev is mounted which it is. |
| 18:10.44 | lenswipe | jordanm, they dont |
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| 18:10.46 | lenswipe | well |
| 18:11.00 | lenswipe | jordanm, they do if you give them sudo, but then youd only do that if you trust them right? |
| 18:11.01 | jordanm | lenswipe: you just happened to have sudo access to run the installer? |
| 18:11.09 | lenswipe | jordanm, i own the system |
| 18:11.12 | mms | any one how to resize root partition in single user mode ? |
| 18:11.12 | jordanm | lenswipe: I would never, for any user |
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| 18:11.24 | jordanm | lenswipe: including my own user |
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| 18:11.32 | lenswipe | jordanm, so what then? |
| 18:11.44 | tharkun | mms: man lvm is a first place to look for help |
| 18:11.58 | jordanm | lenswipe: su. sudo for specific commands only |
| 18:12.03 | mms | tharkun: I did ....cannot find answer.... |
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| 18:12.19 | lenswipe | right |
| 18:12.30 | tharkun | mms pvresize |
| 18:12.41 | mms | tharkun: my root takes up whole disk... |
| 18:13.15 | jordanm | tharkun: he wants to resize the lv, not the pv |
| 18:13.16 | mms | tharkun: I thought I first need to do resize2fs, then shrint lvreduce etc. |
| 18:13.23 | jordanm | and he needs to shrink the filesystem first |
| 18:13.50 | tharkun | jordanm: thx i missunderstood |
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| 18:14.16 | mms | I am having hard time finding the right solution to this |
| 18:14.36 | jordanm | mms: I have never shrunk partitions but that sounds about right |
| 18:15.04 | jordanm | typically, you do not allocate all the space in your vg just for this reason |
| 18:15.19 | mms | jordanm: during install it had warned me that will not be able to resize etc later but I ignored.... |
| 18:15.43 | mms | karlpinc: you around ? |
| 18:15.57 | jordanm | mms: personally, I would have just restored a backup onto a new partition scheme |
| 18:16.18 | HermanDE_ | mms, Which filesystem are you using? |
| 18:16.23 | mms | ext3 |
| 18:16.33 | mms | HermanDE_: ext3 |
| 18:17.06 | mms | when I resize it complains that it cannot... |
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| 18:17.21 | HermanDE_ | mms, Do you have access to a different boot media? |
| 18:17.31 | mms | it says online resizing required...gives block number I guess and then does not... |
| 18:17.32 | jordanm | mms: is it mounted as read-only? |
| 18:18.05 | mms | HermanDE_: actually not really....I would have to use 128GB USB for it... |
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| 18:18.37 | mms | jordanm: how to check ? |
| 18:18.39 | HermanDE_ | mms, Even a thumb drive could work fine.... |
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| 18:18.50 | mms | HermanDE_: I mean pen drive... |
| 18:19.18 | mms | HearmanDE_: I have only two sizes of pen drives...256MB and other is 128GB |
| 18:19.45 | HermanDE_ | mms, Wow.... The 256M could work fine if your machine could boot it.... |
| 18:19.45 | mms | HermanDE_: the rescue image for USB/HDD is about 373MB...so the issue.... |
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| 18:20.11 | jordanm | mms: touch /testfile |
| 18:20.14 | mms | HermanDE_: how can I fit the image of 373MB on 256MB ? |
| 18:20.20 | jordanm | mms: if you get an error, then its read-only |
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| 18:20.26 | mms | jordanm: touch makes the file... |
| 18:20.34 | jordanm | mms: then its not |
| 18:20.45 | jordanm | mms: mount -o remount,ro / |
| 18:20.53 | mms | jordanm: it says device is busy... |
| 18:21.10 | jordanm | mms: and you are in single-user mode? |
| 18:21.17 | mms | jordanm: yes |
| 18:21.47 | HermanDE_ | mms, I'd suggest GParted Live.... Install it on the Pendrive..... |
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| 18:22.34 | mms | HermanDE_: I have lvm.... |
| 18:22.50 | HermanDE_ | mms, Not a problem..... |
| 18:22.58 | HermanDE_ | mms, LVM tools are included.... |
| 18:23.14 | mms | HermanDE_: ok let me check quick |
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| 18:25.16 | HermanDE_ | mms, Just read a bug report about shrinking LVM.... Not supported in the current GParted.... |
| 18:25.26 | HermanDE_ | mms, Is the LVM already shrunk? |
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| 18:26.11 | mms | HermanDE_: nope |
| 18:26.27 | pbn | Hi there, just did aptitude upgrade of Debian "testing". Now xine says it cannot read videos because it cannot find the codec.. But w64codecs is there.... any idea ? |
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| 18:26.34 | OpenTokix | Well, nothing prevent you from shrinking a lvm by hand if it's offline. |
| 18:26.43 | HermanDE_ | mms, GParted will allow you to shrink the FileSystem.... |
| 18:26.58 | HermanDE_ | mms, Then you should boot in to the fs and shrink the LVM.... |
| 18:27.00 | mms | HermanDE_: means I cannot use gparted live ? |
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| 18:27.18 | OpenTokix | Very flew filesystems allow live shrinking |
| 18:27.21 | OpenTokix | few |
| 18:27.32 | HermanDE_ | mms, Sure you can.... It will shrink the FS.... LVM could come after the system is rebooted.... |
| 18:27.39 | pbn | it even says it can't find xvid plugins |
| 18:27.41 | JyZyXEL | ext3 does! =) |
| 18:27.50 | mms | HermanDE_: ok |
| 18:28.20 | HermanDE_ | mms, Changing a filesystem live is always difficult... Some systems support it... Others fail completly..... And when there is a failure.... |
| 18:28.24 | linis_ | i cant start blogtk, gives me a "ImportError: No module named gtkhtml2" |
| 18:28.25 | HermanDE_ | It is spectacular |
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| 18:28.59 | HermanDE_ | mms, It is *always* better to use a different media for booting than the target fs... |
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| 18:30.02 | mms | HermanDE_: so you think I should not use gparted live ? |
| 18:30.04 | HermanDE_ | mms, SystemRescueCD could be another *great* option... |
| 18:30.33 | HermanDE_ | mms, I think you should use *anything* that will take you off of the target filesystem.. |
| 18:30.36 | mms | HermanDE_: I have download the rescue for debian image... |
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| 18:31.16 | HermanDE_ | mms, That could work if you have a boot medium.... In your case, the image is too big for your smaller pendrive.... |
| 18:32.07 | HermanDE_ | mms, I'd suggest going to your nearest *mart and picking up a cheap 1 or 2 GiB thumbdrive.... |
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| 18:33.51 | mms_ | HermanDE_: will gparted live take me off it ? |
| 18:34.07 | cire | I have a problem with pdfjoin. Everytime a single pdf is too large, it gets automatically rotated in joined pdf. How may I avoid that? Tried --no-landscape and --no-autoscale false, but didn't help... |
| 18:34.23 | cire | Isn't it possible to scale every page which is too large to 100%? |
| 18:34.32 | HermanDE_ | mms, As long as you boot off of the USB.... Then the root is the USB.. Not the hard drive... |
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| 18:34.45 | danlock2 | or CD for that matter. |
| 18:34.56 | HermanDE_ | mms Resize to your hearts content..... |
| 18:35.13 | mms | HermanDE_: ok sounds good |
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| 18:36.05 | HermanDE_ | mms, Just ensure you follow the ideas of having a recoverable backup.... Pretty bad to have a backup that can't be recovered.... |
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| 18:39.22 | fluxlabs | php5-suhosin has been removed |
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| 18:42.03 | mms | HermanDE_: actually since we do only resize then I have debian-live image standard one...with it though I did not know how to recognize the hdd ...if I can then may be I can run resize .... |
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| 18:43.15 | HermanDE_ | mms, Any of the above can work fine... |
| 18:43.17 | _anonymouse | Does 'noatime' no longer work with 2.6.32 anymore? I added noatime to /etc/fstab & my machine doesn't boot unless I remove it |
| 18:43.21 | pbn | Hi there, just did aptitude upgrade of Debian "testing". Now xine says it cannot read videos because it cannot find the codec.. But w64codecs is there. Xine even says it can't find the xvid plugin ... any idea ? |
| 18:43.45 | jordanm | !tell pbn about moving target |
| 18:43.58 | mms | HermanDE_: you mean the standard debian-live can do it ? how to identify the hdd ? |
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| 18:44.36 | mms | HermanDE_: I did not see /dev/hda on it...it had hdd in /dev/by_id I guess but that how far I could get... |
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| 18:44.51 | HermanDE_ | mms, Debian dynamically loads the required drivers.... |
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| 18:45.00 | HermanDE_ | mms, Are you using Testing or Lenny? |
| 18:45.09 | mms | HermanDE_: lenny |
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| 18:45.30 | HermanDE_ | mms, Did you follow the bouncing ball to load the drivers? |
| 18:45.42 | mms | HermanDE_: want to give the debian-live a try ? what is bouncing ball ? |
| 18:45.59 | pbn | jordanm: hm, yes :) ... but it must something "stupid"... just did aptitude upgrade, and now the videos cannot be played anymore, with all players: xine, kaffeine, mplayer... they all say they can't find the codecs :( |
| 18:46.31 | HermanDE_ | mms, Follow the on screen instructions.... After booting it should start a process.... |
| 18:46.48 | HermanDE_ | mms, The process includes detecting the hard drives..... |
| 18:47.02 | mms | HermanDE_: shall I try the standard debian-live... |
| 18:47.07 | jordanm | pbn: DMM has a mailing list |
| 18:47.08 | HermanDE_ | mms, Again, my suggestion is to use a tool that make all of these adjustments easy..... |
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| 18:47.23 | HermanDE_ | mms, Use GParted.... Or another like tool.... |
| 18:47.31 | pbn | jordanm: thank you. Sorry but what is DMM ? |
| 18:47.47 | mms | HermanDE_: well all we do is resize then it should be easy enough |
| 18:47.58 | _anonymouse | Debian Multimedia mailling list - DMM |
| 18:47.59 | jordanm | pbn: debian multimedia, its where you got the codecs from |
| 18:48.16 | pbn | jordanm: ah indeed, I'm gonna look into this, htanks :) |
| 18:48.16 | jordanm | (presumably) |
| 18:48.26 | pbn | yeah it's from debian-multimedia.org |
| 18:48.36 | HermanDE_ | jordanm, We don't need no steeki'in mailing list or google here.... |
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| 18:49.54 | tharkun | open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory <-- how can i create such a file? |
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| 18:50.58 | HermanDE_ | tharkun, mknod /dev/fb0 c 29 0 |
| 18:51.02 | jordanm | tharkun: try loading a framebuffer driver |
| 18:51.13 | jordanm | modprobe uvesafb |
| 18:51.37 | tharkun | vga modules can not do fb? |
| 18:51.58 | jordanm | tharkun: assuming "vga modules" means xorg modules, then no |
| 18:52.03 | tharkun | HermanDE_, jordanm: thx for such a promt respons |
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| 18:52.21 | tharkun | no vga module as in booting line of kernel vga=ask |
| 18:52.24 | jordanm | tharkun: framebuffer drivers are kernel modules, and often cause issues with xorg drivers |
| 18:52.34 | jordanm | tharkun: that is a framebuffer driver |
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| 18:54.17 | tharkun | jordanm: ok, i need to revive a 128 Mb ram machine, qingy is an option. The machine needs X and everything the lightest possible option available |
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| 18:54.21 | anisfarhana | knock knock~! |
| 18:54.35 | tharkun | !tell anisfarhana about ask |
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| 18:54.51 | jordanm | tharkun: revive as-in make useful? |
| 18:54.54 | anisfarhana | tharkun: i'm just knocking :p |
| 18:55.14 | tharkun | jordanm: make it work with an erp that uses X |
| 18:55.31 | anisfarhana | what is extension file end with .mc ? |
| 18:55.45 | tharkun | jordanm: Else sans X wuld be fine for firewall router or whatever non X aplication you can muster |
| 18:56.29 | anisfarhana | http://en.mcdonalds.fantasy.fifa.com/M/myteam.mc <--- e.g |
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| 19:04.59 | mms | HermanDE_: I am download the iso file...then how to copy to usb drive ? the instructions on gparted page are about zip file... |
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| 19:06.15 | Texou | hi |
| 19:06.45 | Texou | does someone use pidgin-skype backport? I installed it but no Skype item appears in protocols list after installing. Why? |
| 19:07.09 | mms | HermanDE_: I am download the iso file...then how to copy to usb drive ? the instructions on gparted page are about zip file... |
| 19:09.05 | jordanm | Texou: it still requires you have skype installed and running. see /usr/share/doc/pidgin-skype/* |
| 19:09.53 | Texou | jordanm: yes, I have skype installed (my system is multilib) |
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| 19:11.10 | jordanm | Texou: what does that mean exactly? |
| 19:11.21 | jordanm | ia32-libs is installed? |
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| 19:11.36 | mms_ | any one know when I downloaded the iso file if I use dd command to copy to pen drive will it be right ? |
| 19:11.59 | filePeter | How to display when a file was last changed in bash? |
| 19:12.12 | Texou | jordanm: it means thaq my Debian is amd64 but I installed skype with dependencies for 32bits. But pidgin and pidgin-skype are for 64bits on my system. (Note: I tried skype4pidgin with dpkg, it worked) |
| 19:12.37 | themill | filePeter: man stat |
| 19:13.03 | vsmatck | filePeter: Also man ls |
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| 19:13.58 | vsmatck | filePeter: err, I think themill is more accurate. His advice will allow you to see it on one file, where as my advice will let you see it on all files in a directory. |
| 19:14.38 | filePeter | vsmatck, themill Thank you! |
| 19:15.08 | mms | http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php |
| 19:15.36 | mms | I download the iso file and the linux instructions are for zip file...any one knows what step I need to do to copy the iso to pen drive ? |
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| 19:16.24 | jordanm | Texou: did you do that by install ia32-libs? |
| 19:16.36 | IceIsFun | is there a good way to get a newer XFS version on debian 5.0.4? |
| 19:16.36 | Texou | jordanm: yes |
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| 19:17.01 | IceIsFun | I keep getting XFS errors every few months and I have to XFS check my filesystem, and it ends up putting a bunch of files in lost+found |
| 19:17.28 | IceIsFun | raid card has never failed out a drive (areca 24 port sas card with 1.5TB disks) |
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| 19:18.40 | tharkun | jordanm: Is seems the kernel module is the one that it is wrong, fetching and reinstalling apropiate module |
| 19:19.19 | jordanm | Texou: I would try #pidgin |
| 19:20.07 | Texou | jordanm: ah ok. well with skype4pidgin it works. only Debian package doesn't. That's why I ask here |
| 19:21.13 | jordanm | Texou: ah, if that is the case, I would consider filing the first bug report |
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| 19:21.35 | Texou | jordanm: ok |
| 19:21.39 | Texou | thanks |
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| 19:23.12 | zabka | hi, which php module should i install to be able to use PDF_new? |
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| 19:25.31 | Marsh4ll | how do i terminate shell after i open a program thru it? |
| 19:25.42 | Marsh4ll | so it doesnt constantly say connected |
| 19:26.57 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: "exit" |
| 19:27.08 | mms | hi I need to put the iso file on usb any one knows how ? |
| 19:27.15 | mms | usb pen drive I mean |
| 19:27.19 | Marsh4ll | i cant use the shell after jordanm |
| 19:27.25 | jordanm | mms: I would try dd |
| 19:27.27 | Marsh4ll | if i ctrl + c the program will close aswell |
| 19:27.36 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: command & disown |
| 19:27.37 | Marsh4ll | i wasnt the program running without taking up the whole shell |
| 19:27.37 | mms | jordanm: do I need to umount the pen drive ? |
| 19:27.54 | Marsh4ll | want* thanks ill try that |
| 19:27.56 | jordanm | mms: I would |
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| 19:28.12 | aguitel | how install xmms in squeeze ? |
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| 19:29.58 | Marsh4ll | doesnt work jordanm |
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| 19:30.26 | mms | jordanm: if I use dd...then do I have to make it bootable etc ? can you check the steps here http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php |
| 19:31.33 | jordanm | Texou: just posted to the list? |
| 19:31.45 | mms | I am following linux steps (manual) and they had iso and zip file...I choose iso and they have instructions for zip |
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| 19:31.53 | Texou | jordanm: yes |
| 19:32.50 | mms | jordanm: after copying the image is that all ? is it ready to boot ? |
| 19:32.53 | jordanm | mms: why not download the zip form so you can follow their official guide? |
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| 19:33.17 | mms | jordanm: I have already come too far....now again download zip is another 1 hr download... |
| 19:33.23 | jordanm | mms: I was just taking a guess, since you had asked so many times. that works in some cases where the cd uses syslinux |
| 19:33.58 | jordanm | mms: mount the ISO and treat that as the .zip |
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| 19:34.49 | mms | jordanm: sorry did not quite get it |
| 19:35.17 | mms | jordanm: I already dd if=file.iso of=/dev/flash bs=4k... |
| 19:35.18 | jordanm | mms: get what? |
| 19:35.52 | jordanm | mms: well, start over following the guide |
| 19:35.56 | mms | jordanm: how do I mount the iso and then follow the instructions ? |
| 19:37.12 | mms | there seems to be unebootin for linux too |
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| 19:37.30 | jordanm | !fgi mount iso linux |
| 19:37.30 | dpkg | mount: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=iso linux |
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| 19:37.42 | jordanm | hmm, thats not right |
| 19:37.55 | jordanm | !fgi 'mount iso linux' |
| 19:37.55 | dpkg | 'mount: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=iso linux' |
| 19:38.47 | jordanm | !fgi mms mount+iso+linux |
| 19:38.47 | dpkg | mms: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=mount+iso+linux |
| 19:38.52 | jordanm | got it! |
| 19:39.04 | mms | yep thanks |
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| 19:41.48 | aguitel | how install xmms in squeeze ? |
| 19:42.06 | Elfix | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.22 | jordanm | ,versions xmms2 |
| 19:42.24 | judd | xmms2 -- etch: 0.2DrGonzo-4.1; lenny: 0.5DrLecter-2; sid: 0.7DrNo-5; squeeze: 0.7DrNo-5; sid: 0.7DrNo-7 |
| 19:42.31 | Marsh4ll | how would i terminate shell after i run program, without terminating program too |
| 19:42.33 | jordanm | aguitel: same as anything else |
| 19:42.45 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: why are you asking again when I told you earlier? |
| 19:42.54 | Marsh4ll | didnt work obviously |
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| 19:43.21 | aguitel | jordanm, aptitude install xmms is not working |
| 19:43.22 | themill | dpkg: tell Marsh4ll about doesn't work |
| 19:43.26 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: help disown |
| 19:43.36 | themill | aguitel: xmms != xmms2; /msg dpkg xmms |
| 19:43.39 | jordanm | aguitel: its xmms2 |
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| 19:44.15 | aguitel | jordanm, and the gui for xmms2 ? |
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| 19:45.28 | jordanm | aguitel: no idea |
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| 19:46.49 | Marsh4ll | jordan r u sure u know what im on about? |
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| 19:47.30 | themill | Marsh4ll: we have no idea what you're talking about ... what you were told will work for what we understand your question to be. |
| 19:47.48 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: you launch an application such as gedit in a terminal. when you close the terminal, you want gedit to stay open I assume |
| 19:48.06 | Marsh4ll | similar yes |
| 19:48.14 | Marsh4ll | terminal is useless after execution |
| 19:48.22 | Marsh4ll | untill ctrl+c |
| 19:48.24 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: that is what the & is for |
| 19:48.34 | Marsh4ll | i use pipe right? |
| 19:48.37 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: command & disown |
| 19:48.48 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: I never said to use a pipe |
| 19:49.01 | Marsh4ll | kk |
| 19:49.03 | Marsh4ll | i try |
| 19:49.16 | craigevil | for anyone having issues with vlc in Squeeze, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=586016 seems to be the problem |
| 19:49.29 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ProcessManagement |
| 19:49.44 | Marsh4ll | well it sort of works, untill i connect |
| 19:49.47 | Marsh4ll | then takes shell over again |
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| 19:50.25 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: output still goes to the terminal, press enter |
| 19:50.49 | Marsh4ll | :) |
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| 19:51.08 | jordanm | Marsh4ll: use nohup if you don't want to see output or redirect it |
| 19:51.12 | mms | jordanm: unetbooting is not giving me usb drive for one i plugged in |
| 19:51.22 | abadr | Not specifically a Debian question, but... Not really an Ubuntu question, but... I'm having trouble getting getting daemontools to start logging. It's simply not running my my ./log/run file, though I can execute it manually. I shouldn't need to restart svscan or anything, right? |
| 19:51.27 | Marsh4ll | i tried nohup, must have tried it wrong again :s |
| 19:51.32 | themill | craigevil: a few people |
| 19:51.33 | abadr | I'm running Ubuntu is what I meant to say ;) |
| 19:51.39 | mms | jordanm: I can see it in mount and also the windows shows up...but unebootin cannot find it |
| 19:51.42 | jordanm | !ubuntu |
| 19:51.43 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 19:52.15 | jordanm | mms: maybe it must not be mounted |
| 19:52.32 | abadr | there's no *nix channel |
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| 19:52.53 | jordanm | abadr: yes, there is. ##linux |
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| 19:53.25 | cupotea | what is the difference between 2.6-486 and 2.6-686 |
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| 19:53.50 | jordanm | cupotea: different instruction sets. you want 686 if your CPU supports it |
| 19:54.12 | cupotea | a pentium 3 probably would not have advanced 686 instruction sets |
| 19:54.15 | mms | jordanm: still cannot find it... |
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| 19:54.45 | cupotea | guess i need to find out what instruction sets are on my chip |
| 19:54.55 | abrotman | cupotea: is your computer 15 years old ? |
| 19:54.56 | jordanm | mms: then no idea |
| 19:55.07 | abrotman | !tell cupotea about 686 |
| 19:55.15 | cupotea | probably not |
| 19:55.24 | cupotea | its a NEC and its made of heavy metal |
| 19:55.32 | jordanm | cupotea: according to wikipedia it does |
| 19:55.35 | cupotea | but it has USB |
| 19:55.42 | jordanm | cupotea: starting with pentium pro |
| 19:55.45 | cupotea | TY |
| 19:56.16 | cupotea | makes sense |
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| 19:57.40 | Posterdati | hi |
| 19:57.49 | Posterdati | please how can I load userdir module for apache2? |
| 19:58.04 | Voldenet | httpd.conf? |
| 19:58.06 | tharkun | Stupid question, What do i have to do to load upon startup a kernel module? |
| 19:58.23 | jordanm | Voldenet: don't tell people that |
| 19:58.26 | jordanm | Posterdati: a2enmod |
| 19:58.27 | dimir | tharkun: add it to /etc/modules |
| 19:58.39 | tharkun | dimir thx |
| 19:58.43 | jordanm | Voldenet: that would be correct if this was #rhel |
| 19:58.44 | dimir | tharkun: np |
| 19:59.05 | Posterdati | jordanm: thanks |
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| 20:16.09 | chalcedony | hi mi||ipede :) |
| 20:16.13 | mi||ipede | Hello |
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| 20:18.28 | mi||ipede | problem: Nautilus and gnome panel cannot start because of problem registering with bonobo server. Have purged and re-installed libbonobo2* and Nautilus sevral times, rebooted, etc. No damn good . desktop cannot start. Get GDM login screen though. |
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| 20:20.05 | abrotman | which version of nautilus? |
| 20:20.32 | mi||ipede | abrotman Thanks, one tic... |
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| 20:21.24 | mi||ipede | abrotman: Nautilus_2.20.0-7_i386.deb |
| 20:21.37 | mi||ipede | well that's the archive file of course |
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| 20:22.10 | abrotman | mi||ipede: dpkg -l nautilus libbonobo2-0 | tail -2 |
| 20:22.14 | abrotman | give us the exact lines |
| 20:23.04 | mi||ipede | abrotman: from teh error messages? Ok, one moment. |
| 20:23.13 | abrotman | no .. exactly what i typed above |
| 20:23.48 | mi||ipede | Oh sorry missed that. OK |
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| 20:25.47 | mi||ipede | abrotman: ii libbonobo2-0 2.222.0-1 Bonobo CORBA [etc] |
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| 20:26.12 | mi||ipede | abrotman: ii nautilus 2.22.0-7 |
| 20:26.21 | abrotman | so it's not the same version you mentioned above |
| 20:26.36 | abrotman | and not a version in debian |
| 20:26.39 | mi||ipede | hmmm |
| 20:26.51 | abrotman | neither is your libbonobo |
| 20:26.58 | abrotman | mi||ipede: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 20:28.16 | mi||ipede | one second, please |
| 20:28.24 | themill | mi||ipede: please copy and paste things rather than retyping them. You'll make fewer typos and it will be easier to help you. |
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| 20:30.25 | mi||ipede | abrotman: The nautilus versiosn I quoted are exactly the same (both as I typed them, and as they appera in /var/cache/apt/archives and teh command you gave me |
| 20:30.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, 2.22.0-1 of libbonobo is in stable |
| 20:30.35 | abrotman | mi||ipede: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 20:30.56 | themill | mi||ipede: you keep typing things with so many mistakes in them, we don't know what you've got. |
| 20:31.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | why are you typing it? Is there something preventing you from copy&paste? |
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| 20:32.08 | mi||ipede | I made typos but I took special care with the numbers. Installign GPM so I can cut and paste. |
| 20:32.49 | mi||ipede | dpkg listing: |
| 20:32.50 | abrotman | except you got the number wrong |
| 20:32.52 | mi||ipede | ii libbonobo2-0 2.22.0-1 Bonobo CORBA interfaces library |
| 20:32.55 | mi||ipede | ii nautilus 2.20.0-7 file manager and graphical shell for GNOME |
| 20:33.09 | abrotman | mi||ipede: if you IRC from that machine, we can give you IRC commands to give us the stuff we're asking for |
| 20:33.42 | mi||ipede | /var/cache/apt/archives/nautilus_2.20.0-7_i386.deb |
| 20:33.54 | abrotman | putting the error in a pastebin might be a good idea too |
| 20:33.59 | mi||ipede | yes, I could just have done /exec -out . |
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| 20:34.49 | mi||ipede | Those are the direct pastings. Sorry if I made thinsg difficult |
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| 20:41.27 | mi||ipede | Do you still wnat things put into pastebin? |
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| 20:42.10 | kobrien | I know a guy who just upgraded to Debian squeeze. I thought it was terribly unstable. comments? |
| 20:43.12 | craigevil | kobrien: its called testing for a reason |
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| 20:43.30 | kobrien | craigevil: okies, so I should tell him to rollback? |
| 20:43.34 | abrotman | mi||ipede: your sources.list yes .. and the error, yes |
| 20:43.49 | abrotman | kobrien: depends if he did it correctly? |
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| 20:44.43 | kobrien | correctly? |
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| 20:46.41 | mi||ipede | abrotman: Error will have to be manually typed as it's on remains of desktop, cut and paste don't work on it. |
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| 20:48.46 | mi||ipede | OK, sources list posted to pastebin under "bonobo/Nautilus problem". Hard to see it in LYnx. |
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| 20:48.56 | abrotman | on which site? |
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| 20:49.37 | mi||ipede | Oh crap. List is too long, wants non-bot confirmation, but of ocurse I cannot see teh Capcha image! |
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| 20:50.34 | mi||ipede | I will have to break it up. How manly lines is limit for pastebin.com/ |
| 20:50.37 | mi||ipede | ? |
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| 20:51.24 | mi||ipede | abrotman: It migth be a lot easier if I DCC copies to you, is that OK? |
| 20:51.29 | abrotman | won't work |
| 20:51.38 | abrotman | mi||ipede: you can use #flood if that's easier |
| 20:51.38 | mi||ipede | why not? |
| 20:51.44 | abrotman | because i won't accept it |
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| 20:52.01 | mi||ipede | abrotman: :-) |
| 20:52.02 | IceIsFun | there are other pastebin like things out there that will probably work for you |
| 20:52.11 | mi||ipede | OK cu in #flood |
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| 20:54.22 | msoos | HI all. I have a "Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS", and I disabled modesetting from kernel with "i915.modeset=0". This fixes problems with "wine" and suspend-to-RAM. However, now, I have my LCD flicker once every 3-5 minutes |
| 20:54.22 | abrotman | mi||ipede: make sure you've done an `aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade` |
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| 20:54.52 | omes | hmm |
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| 20:55.02 | msoos | Any clues anyone? |
| 20:55.28 | omes | During a netinstall, where is the cdrom mounted, and what files is the installer looking for? I'm doing an install from a usb-pen and I have to mount the stick myself and point the installer to the right place. |
| 20:55.51 | jordanm | omes: sounds like you used unetbootin |
| 20:56.02 | omes | jordanm: indeed i did |
| 20:56.09 | omes | what is the kosher way to do this? |
| 20:56.15 | jordanm | omes: does not function properly, follow the official guide |
| 20:56.17 | jordanm | !usb install |
| 20:56.18 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 20:56.38 | karsten | omes: Usually /cdrom. |
| 20:57.34 | omes | yeah, the installer hates me.. |
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| 20:57.46 | omes | ill try the others :) |
| 20:58.24 | msoos | Anyone any clue about my problem? |
| 20:58.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | milligan_, there's an 'e' missing in the volatile line, actually |
| 20:59.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | apart from that it's fine |
| 21:00.22 | abrotman | mi||ipede: did it update any packages? |
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| 21:30.58 | mi||ipede | libbonobo* aer no different, i.e. newest versions anyway. |
| 21:31.08 | mi||ipede | sorry wrong window |
| 21:31.38 | javagamer | I think I might have messed up my sources file. I attempted to upgrade to squeeze and I thought I did everything right, but now whenever I try to apt-get update it can't get all of the files |
| 21:32.31 | mordocai | javagamer: Well, could you post your sources.list file to a pastebin and let us take a look at it? |
| 21:32.32 | javagamer | Speifically volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/squeeze/volatile/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz and Sources.gz |
| 21:32.34 | JyZyXEL | how do you see the number of blocks on ext3 filesystem? |
| 21:32.45 | javagamer | mordocai: Will do |
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| 21:34.14 | JyZyXEL | is there a tool i can use to get information about ext3 filesystem? |
| 21:34.24 | msoos | JyZyXEL: maybe "df" ? |
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| 21:34.29 | ranix_ | man |
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| 21:34.57 | JyZyXEL | no i don't think df is it |
| 21:35.06 | msoos | well, it gives me stuff like |
| 21:35.10 | javagamer | pastebin.com/0SR1vFrg |
| 21:35.13 | JyZyXEL | it only prints the mounted ones |
| 21:35.19 | msoos | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
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| 21:35.49 | Cosmo` | don't suppose anyone is good with WPA_Supplicant are they? |
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| 21:35.49 | msoos | well, "gparted", then? |
| 21:36.01 | tuxpenguin | ho can I use my laptop to create a wlan access point? |
| 21:36.12 | JyZyXEL | no it needs to be a filesystem debug tool |
| 21:36.22 | JyZyXEL | so it actually gets the 100% correct value |
| 21:36.36 | JyZyXEL | i need to use its output on a script |
| 21:36.37 | jordanm | !hostapd |
| 21:36.37 | dpkg | [hostapd] a user-space IEEE 802.11 access point (AP) and IEEE 802.11X/WPA/WPA2/EAP authenticator. Any mac80211 driver providing AP functionality is supported by hostapd's nl80211 (netlink) driver; hostapd 1:0.6.9-1 or later required (BTS #429734). See /usr/share/doc/hostapd/README.Debian for program invocation and driver version/firmware notes. See also http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd . http://w1.fi/hostapd/ |
| 21:36.39 | mordocai | javagamer: yeah, the problem is there is no squeeze version of debian-volatile. http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/ http://www.debian.org/volatile/ |
| 21:36.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | !volatile |
| 21:36.54 | dpkg | Debian Volatile is a project that aims at keeping the <stable> and <oldstable> distributions up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. http://www.debian.org/volatile/ An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free See also <volatile mirrors>. |
| 21:37.00 | javagamer | Ah, so can I just remove those? |
| 21:37.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | javagamer, there is no volatile for squeeze, squeeze is volatile in itself :) |
| 21:37.35 | javagamer | Ah, alright. Thanks for your help./ |
| 21:38.27 | JyZyXEL | dumpe2fs is the tool |
| 21:38.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | or I should say "for testing" - of course whenever squeeze becomes stable, there will be a volatile for it |
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| 21:39.02 | jordanm | s/whenever/if/ :p |
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| 21:39.19 | javagamer | Are there contrib packages for Squeeze b/c it's complaining about those now? |
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| 21:39.38 | jordanm | yes |
| 21:39.57 | javagamer | :/ |
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| 21:40.32 | mordocai | javagamer: Unfortuanately i'm at work on fedora, or i'd take a look at my sources.list |
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| 21:40.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | javagamer, compare with the ones in here? http://pastebin.com/HW0JLvzj |
| 21:41.05 | javagamer | alright |
| 21:41.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | (I'm running stable and pinning selects stable for me, but I want to be able to search through all packages) |
| 21:42.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | (that's why you see all repos in there) |
| 21:42.13 | jordanm | bad CutMeOwnThroat! |
| 21:42.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, WHAT? |
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| 21:43.03 | [Jasper] | hej guys, what's the best way to setup ajax with apache2 and php on debian? |
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| 21:43.33 | jordanm | isn't ajax interpretted by the client? why would it need to be setup on the server side? |
| 21:43.54 | [Jasper] | for the querys? |
| 21:43.59 | javagamer | Yeah, I think all you need is Apache w/ PHP for AJAX |
| 21:44.14 | [Jasper] | exactly..so php needs to be modded? |
| 21:44.48 | tuxpenguin | i've installed and configured hostapd |
| 21:45.01 | tuxpenguin | but the wlan isn't visible by other wlan cards |
| 21:45.13 | jordanm | [Jasper]: maybe you want php-xajax? |
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| 21:50.12 | embrik | how di I copy a folder with content without hidden files in terminal? |
| 21:50.22 | embrik | How do I copy..... |
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| 21:50.56 | javagamer | squeeze/updates seemed to be a problem for some reason, so I temporarily removed it and things are working currently |
| 21:52.42 | embrik | I'm about to make a dvd for my pupils with all their school work from 10 years of work, but I don't need to copy all the hidden files in their home folders. Is there a way to do this in terminal? |
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| 21:57.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | embrik, tar --exclude '^[.][a-zA-Z]*' -cvf - . | (cd /some/new/place/ && tar -xf -) |
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| 21:57.42 | javagamer | Hmmm... now that I re-added stuff to my sources.list everything's fine |
| 21:58.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually, there's probably a simpler line with rsync, but I didn't think of rsync first |
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| 21:58.17 | embrik | CutMeOwnThroat, Wow, I was just reading man tar, but this line I don't think I would have been able to come up with my self - thanks a lot, I'll try it |
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| 21:58.56 | JyZyXEL | The size parameter specifies the requested new size of the filesystem. If no units are specified, the units of the size parameter shall be the filesystem blocksize of the filesystem. Optionally, the size parameter may be suffixed by one of the following the units designators: 's', 'K', 'M', or 'G', for 512 byte sectors, kilobytes, megabytes, or gigabytes, respectively. The size of the |
| 21:58.59 | JyZyXEL | filesystem may never be larger than the size of the partition. If size parameter is not specified, it will default to the size of the partition. |
| 21:59.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | embrik, it just says "don't copy files that start with . followed by any character (a-zA-Z) |
| 21:59.09 | JyZyXEL | is kilobyte 1000 bytes or 1024 bytes |
| 21:59.36 | badipod | 1000, iirc |
| 21:59.38 | JyZyXEL | or it IS 1000 bytes but do they know it |
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| 22:00.31 | embrik | CutMeOwnThroat, Is it nessesary to use [a-zaA-z] ? I don't want any folder or files starting with [.] |
| 22:00.50 | JyZyXEL | im thinking i should file a bugreport on this |
| 22:00.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | embrik, actually, I guess rsync --exclude '^[.][a-zA-Z]*' /from/dir /to/dir should also work (didn't try) |
| 22:01.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | embrik, then it would exclude '.' and '..' hmm... didn't try if that's a problem |
| 22:01.53 | Mkop | I have a machine that I will use occasionally as a desktop machine, but mostly as a server. As such, I don't want Xorg running on it most of the time wasting RAM and CPU (it's a pretty old machine). How can I a) disable automatic starting of Xorg/Gnome, b) manually start it when I want to, c) kill Xorg/Gnome without having them start up again? |
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| 22:02.04 | embrik | no it's not a problem, I'll try.. |
| 22:02.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | oops |
| 22:02.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | my exclude doens't work? |
| 22:02.21 | ola | JyZyXEL: 1024 bytes is a kibibyte, 1000 bytes is a kilobyte, but in some contexts kilobyte means 1024 bytes. |
| 22:02.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | I tried it out and din't see :) |
| 22:02.43 | JyZyXEL | ola: yes would resize2fs manual be one of the contextes |
| 22:03.28 | JyZyXEL | some morons really seem to think that when they talk about kilobytes they automatically mean 1024 bytes |
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| 22:04.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | embrik, sorry - the pattern seems to be a glob, really - use --exclude '*/.*' |
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| 22:05.02 | manizzle | hey guys, can someone give me a good reference to setting up a chroot enviornment? |
| 22:05.04 | embrik | CutMeOwnThroat, OK |
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| 22:07.28 | isfranc | manizzle: use ssh options for this |
| 22:07.49 | manizzle | use ssh to setup a chroot? |
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| 22:10.37 | isfranc | manizzle: see debootstrap |
| 22:11.27 | isfranc | manizzle: i use debootstrap go to chroot ssh |
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| 22:12.02 | manizzle | debootstrap is like debianÅ version of chroot? |
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| 22:13.34 | isfranc | manizzle: no debootstrap + ssh chroot is a good way for have good remote shell in chrooted |
| 22:13.34 | eikenberry | manizzle. No. debootstrap is a program that allows you to bootstrap something into a debian system. Basically install debian from debian w/o using the cd. |
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| 22:14.20 | eikenberry | 'something' can be a chroot but can also be a harddrive or whatever. |
| 22:14.32 | manizzle | well, what i am trying to do is have a jail enviornment for each user such that they can only run certain binaries, and nothing else is available to them unless they break out of the jail |
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| 22:14.48 | isfranc | eikenberry: debootstrap + ssh chroot is good ? |
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| 22:17.13 | eikenberry | isfranc. Not really sure what you're asking. Looking back at your conversation it doesn't make much more sense. ssh and chroot have nothing to do with one another normally. |
| 22:17.46 | isfranc | eikenberry: exist ssh chroot option, no ? |
| 22:18.05 | manizzle | well, what i am trying to do is have a jail enviornment for each user such that they can only run certain binaries, and nothing else is available to them unless they break out of the jail |
| 22:19.22 | embrik | CutMeOwnThroat, What's wrong here? rsync --exclude '*/.*' /skole/tjener/felles/embrik /skole/tjener/felles/pakker skipping directory embrik |
| 22:19.29 | eikenberry | manizzle. I'm not sure if a chroot is the best way to do that or not. Never done that myself. But using debootstrap you can install a minimal system in a chroot, which might help. Though there are other ways to do that. |
| 22:20.11 | manizzle | so just debootstrap a minimal system for each user, and install only what they need to run what i want them to? |
| 22:20.19 | eikenberry | isfranc. I've never setup sshd in a chroot if that's what you mean. |
| 22:20.38 | isfranc | eikenberry: wait a minute i search |
| 22:20.54 | isfranc | eikenberry: i have this |
| 22:21.06 | eikenberry | manizzle. You could do that. There might be other options or even resources more dedicated to that. Seems like a waste of space and that you could use hard links or something. But I'm not sure. |
| 22:22.15 | manizzle | eikenberry, woudlnt a chroot be less systems resources than a debootstrap? |
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| 22:23.18 | isfranc | eikenberry: look for this Match User test |
| 22:23.31 | isfranc | eikenberry: look for this Match User ...... |
| 22:23.44 | miguel000 | Can somebody tell me a "good" tutorial how I can use my ipod nano with linux. I am only interested in putting music on it. |
| 22:23.48 | eikenberry | manizzle. A chroot doesn't use/have any resources by itself. It is just software which sets a new '/' directory. It could be empty for that matter. |
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| 22:25.00 | tharkun | miguel000: look for gtkpod on internet it should point to some interesting stuff |
| 22:25.02 | manizzle | so a chroot for my needs would be more system efficient? cuz then i can just put softlinks to the binaries they need? |
| 22:27.17 | Bushmills | no. hardlinks would do |
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| 22:27.27 | isfranc | eikenberry: have you see chroot option in modern ssh ? or my english is very bad //// :( |
| 22:27.46 | tharkun | Bushmills: any hints on how to set up the framebuffer for qingy? |
| 22:28.09 | Bushmills | just framebuffer. not especially for qingy |
| 22:28.32 | Bushmills | kernel parameter during boot |
| 22:28.53 | tharkun | Any particular option? |
| 22:29.12 | Bushmills | matching your desired video resolution |
| 22:29.24 | manizzle | whats the difference between hardlinks and softlinks? |
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| 22:30.11 | Bushmills | softlinks are more like indirect file names. hardlinks point to same file bodies |
| 22:31.13 | manizzle | so for giving users in a chroot access to some binaries, the best way to do it is to chroot them in their home directory, /home/somename => / then just hardlink the rest? |
| 22:31.51 | isfranc | eikenberry: how are you ? |
| 22:32.10 | Bushmills | not all. of some files you want physical copies, not hardlinks |
| 22:32.35 | Bushmills | hardlinks for read-only files |
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| 22:33.33 | manizzle | Bushmills, so hardlink the files and binaries they need full access to read from, and then just make copies for files they need to write to? |
| 22:33.34 | manizzle | kk |
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| 22:34.04 | Bushmills | that more or less describes it, yes |
| 22:34.35 | dougmencken | hello, debianists! why bug report from mid april is still ignored by you? |
| 22:35.05 | dougmencken | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=578269 |
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| 22:35.31 | dougmencken | any more info? any tests? please |
| 22:35.37 | themill | dougmencken: there are around 100,000 open bugs. Don't feel too unloved. |
| 22:35.56 | dougmencken | themill: 2 months ago and no reply at all |
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| 22:37.01 | isfranc | dougmencken: wait again ... 48 mounth |
| 22:37.17 | themill | dougmencken: you might do better to ask in #debian-x on irc.oftc.net. It's a fairly quiet channel so be patient. |
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| 22:38.45 | Bushmills | dougmencken: donating a mac and an rage 128 could accelerate it. no guarantees, though. |
| 22:38.51 | HardDisk_WP | how do I make the wwwdata user run a specific script as root? |
| 22:39.18 | isfranc | oki bye bye |
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| 22:39.25 | HardDisk_WP | the script is /usr/local/bin/mailfwd |
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| 22:40.03 | dougmencken | Bushmills: yeah, I will, if you will use it more than 10 minutes: "wow, look at it!" |
| 22:40.05 | lindi- | HardDisk_WP: sounds like a security problem :) |
| 22:40.30 | HardDisk_WP | actually not, the script just edits the .forward file in the user's home directories. |
| 22:41.15 | dougmencken | 34 users on debian-x@oftc |
| 22:41.41 | HardDisk_WP | obviously I can't give www-data write permissions on user's .forward. |
| 22:42.51 | Bushmills | dougmencken: ok. 15 minutes "wow look at it". that's more than the 10 min you requested. and therafter the machine can be put to any use it is deemed fit for :) |
| 22:44.11 | miguel000 | hooray, amarok supports my ipod out of the box ! :) |
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| 22:45.36 | gen0cide | Hey, dow do i add a couple of commands so they can execute automagically during boot |
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| 22:45.47 | gen0cide | I know it has something to do with /etc/init.d |
| 22:45.56 | Bushmills | or /etc/rc.local |
| 22:46.15 | gen0cide | I want to add "ifconfig ath0 up" "ifconfig eth1 up" "ifconfig eth1 192.168.3.1" and a couple of others |
| 22:46.26 | Bushmills | or @boot through cron |
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| 22:47.46 | gen0cide | I dont have a /etc/rc.local |
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| 22:48.18 | qq- | don't have debian ? |
| 22:48.21 | manizzle | Bushmills, i love you |
| 22:48.54 | gen0cide | I have debian |
| 22:49.23 | gen0cide | debian:/etc/init.d# cd /etc/rc.local |
| 22:49.24 | gen0cide | bash: cd: /etc/rc.local: Not a directory |
| 22:49.33 | qq- | use /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:49.34 | gen0cide | lol nm |
| 22:49.42 | gen0cide | im gona vim it |
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| 22:50.20 | gen0cide | "This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel." |
| 22:50.25 | miguel000 | what is the easest way, to get a popup window in X that will ask the user for input (For insstance YES/NO) from a shell script? |
| 22:50.42 | lindi- | miguel000: zenity |
| 22:50.44 | gen0cide | Does that mean it only starts when turning off |
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| 22:51.42 | miguel000 | lindi-: peerfect, and its even already present on my system! |
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| 22:52.42 | gen0cide | How do i make a init.d script so i can have those 3 commands automagically happen at boottime ? |
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| 22:53.44 | tharkun | Bushmills: I installed the apropiate kernel module for the video card. But when i set a particular resolution it gets changed. Any hints? Any url to research from there on ? |
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| 22:59.10 | miguel000 | ok zenity works great when I run it manually, but my script is run by udev. Is it possible that its why it is not displaying the dialog then |
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| 23:01.14 | tharkun | Bushmills: I don't have a clue why it just started responding :-) thx for your time and assistance |
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| 23:01.45 | manizzle | Bushmills is a boss |
| 23:01.50 | manizzle | remember that |
| 23:01.53 | manizzle | and you will go far |
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| 23:07.33 | miguel000 | oook the following works: su miguel -c 'export DISPLAY=:0.0; zenity --question' |
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| 23:16.04 | calamari | is there a command line tool similar to apt-get or aptitude that will attempt to download and install dependencies for a non-repository deb file? |
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| 23:18.08 | themill | calamari: I believe gdebi can do that. Or dpkg -i foo.deb; apt-get -f install. (but don't use this to install .debs designed for a different distro onto your debian machine....) |
| 23:18.23 | calamari | themill, thanks! |
| 23:18.28 | rohinoor | hi |
| 23:19.19 | calamari | apt-get -f install did the trick, thank you very much |
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| 23:20.07 | themill | np |
| 23:20.08 | calamari | that's a clever solution, I believe I understand how it works so hopefully I can remember it next time :) |
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| 23:22.56 | rohinoor | i'm a complete newbie regarding linux, just installed debian a few days ago and I know some of the commands already, but generally I still feel lost most of the time. So your suggestion in /msg dpkg is good (readmes and howtos), but i'd still like some help regarding little things, just until i get used to the new os |
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| 23:24.47 | rohinoor | how can i rename a file in terminal? |
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| 23:27.13 | cupotea | are there any CMS that will run on debian that integrate with microsoft word in windows? |
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| 23:28.22 | themill | rohinoor: "mv oldname newname". /msg dpkg grounding ; /msg dpkg general cli tutorial |
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| 23:40.26 | omes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:41.46 | calamari | rohinoor, http://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard |
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| 23:43.23 | calamari | rohinoor, also, man -k keyword lets you search the manual pages |
| 23:43.29 | omes | never mind, found out |
| 23:46.22 | djura-san | im off boys and girls. have a nice chat :)) |
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| 23:51.17 | tharkun | How much memory is needed to have a usefull working X environment? I am obviously looking for the bottom edge. |
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