| 00:01.06 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: sorry, I wasn't clear. The pavucontrol volume analyzer. OTOH, if I run pacat < /dev/urandom nothing shows up in pavucontrol :( |
| 00:01.10 | HermanDE_ | bop, check /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only |
| 00:01.20 | HermanDE_ | bop, Does that show a '1'? |
| 00:01.46 | bop | HermanDE_, yes |
| 00:02.08 | HermanDE_ | bop, Then it is looking for an IPV6 connection only..... |
| 00:02.19 | HermanDE_ | bop, Do you have an IPV6 address? |
| 00:02.23 | bop | no |
| 00:02.26 | bop | ipv4 |
| 00:02.34 | HermanDE_ | bop, And a IPV6 DNS? |
| 00:02.41 | bop | -.- |
| 00:02.44 | bop | are u trolling me ? |
| 00:02.45 | HermanDE_ | bop, Then change it to '0' |
| 00:03.13 | bop | it doesnt matter, my router only working with ipv4 |
| 00:03.33 | HermanDE_ | u leetxr. g8 wuz wy. |
| 00:03.38 | qq- | !noipv6 |
| 00:03.38 | dpkg | [noipv6] To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for the changes to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
| 00:04.16 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: try, as root: pulseaudio -k; pulseaudio -vv |
| 00:04.44 | HermanDE_ | bop, Check out the docs for JDownloader.... Then set bindv6only to '0' and tell me how well that works.... |
| 00:05.51 | HermanDE_ | I keep remembering the common statement.... RTFM... And I really want to repeat it... But, I'll stop there... |
| 00:06.04 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: wow.... it must have printed 200 KB of text there. What should I look for? I think I found another thing, if I run pabrowse nothing shows up... so it seems my pulseaudio server doesn't exit -_- |
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| 00:06.33 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: I wouldn't look for anything to begin with, just try using mplayer again or something |
| 00:06.34 | craigevil | bop: open file /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf and set net.ipv6.bindv6only=0, then restart the procfs with invoke-rc.d procps restart |
| 00:07.11 | bop | HermanDE_, and where is that doc ? |
| 00:08.01 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: run mplayer as root? I also noticed that pulseaudio acts a zombie when in user. I kill the process and another one is started automatically. |
| 00:08.10 | HermanDE_ | bop, Download the source like I did.... Who is trolling who? geeze..... |
| 00:08.31 | rares | ok I am royally fscked now |
| 00:08.32 | craigevil | bop: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056 |
| 00:08.37 | bop | HermanDE_, well , i have it |
| 00:08.48 | bop | ok craigevil , its working now :D |
| 00:09.20 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: Nonono... just run it as a normal user |
| 00:10.11 | rking | rares: what's up? |
| 00:10.27 | rking | rares: BTW, did you ever post the output of strace iceweasel |
| 00:10.35 | rares | yeah i did |
| 00:10.44 | rking | rares: Crap, I missed it. |
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| 00:12.28 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: doen't make a difference... no sound. |
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| 00:14.44 | jpinx-eeepc | !seen stoned |
| 00:14.44 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'stoned', jpinx-eeepc |
| 00:14.56 | abrotman | drat |
| 00:15.22 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: what were his other nicks? |
| 00:15.36 | beardy | abrotman: pastebin! |
| 00:15.39 | abrotman | it doesn't matter .. he's not here, nor will he be |
| 00:15.47 | rares | rking |
| 00:15.53 | rares | http://pastebin.ca/1887420 |
| 00:16.29 | Trekki | so... I installed a new system on my old laptop using a netinst cd. All went through, grub starts and the kernel boots, but then it wants me to run a manual fsck on the system partition |
| 00:16.49 | Trekki | I even did this with a livecd to avoid problems, but afterwards I still get the same problem |
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| 00:18.22 | piklu | hello |
| 00:18.33 | piklu | I want to access my debian server via a webpage |
| 00:18.45 | piklu | can anybody suggest something ? |
| 00:18.46 | piklu | for this |
| 00:18.48 | rking | rares: that's really weird. |
| 00:18.55 | p3rrpr | piklu, why you will do that |
| 00:19.01 | jpinx-eeepc | piklu: write a php page? |
| 00:19.23 | p3rrpr | piklu, yes a php page or an applet |
| 00:19.26 | piklu | well i sit behind restricted network which does not allows anything but port 80 |
| 00:19.40 | Trekki | piklu: you want to develop a website? or do you need admin access to your system via http? |
| 00:19.50 | p3rrpr | piklu, you can create a tunnel over http |
| 00:19.51 | piklu | Trekki: the second one |
| 00:19.58 | p3rrpr | piklu, to you ssh |
| 00:19.59 | jpinx-eeepc | piklu: or use cpanel or similar - but don't come back here looking for help - they are not good at security |
| 00:20.09 | piklu | p3rrpr: the only access in the network is through proxy |
| 00:20.17 | rares | rking: many of the programs do that |
| 00:20.46 | Trekki | I've read of something like that. |
| 00:20.50 | Trekki | IIRC it's called webmi |
| 00:20.51 | Trekki | n |
| 00:20.54 | Trekki | but I don't know what the crowd here thinks about it |
| 00:20.55 | piklu | So accessing desktop of debian via http........when everything is blocked......just the web access. |
| 00:21.03 | jpinx-eeepc | !webmin |
| 00:21.04 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 about the removal from Debian. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 00:21.12 | jpinx-eeepc | Trekki: ââ |
| 00:21.36 | Trekki | hrhrhr |
| 00:21.38 | Trekki | so there |
| 00:22.02 | jpinx-eeepc | !cpanel |
| 00:22.02 | dpkg | from memory, cpanel is a proprietary web hosting control panel. Ask me about <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 00:22.05 | beardy | piklu: Set up a tunnel. OpenVPN or ssh. |
| 00:22.13 | piklu | lol..........no no.............you are taking me wrong |
| 00:22.32 | jpinx-eeepc | !free whcp |
| 00:22.33 | piklu | beardy: how can i use openvpn...? when i can access internet only through a proxy |
| 00:22.33 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig>, <ispCP Omega> and <RavenCore>. Don't use <Webmin>. |
| 00:22.33 | rking | rares: Try a different shell ? |
| 00:22.36 | p3rrpr | piklu, http://www.sensepost.com/labs/tools/pentest/reduh |
| 00:22.51 | rares | i'll try |
| 00:23.04 | rares | rking also man can't load pages |
| 00:23.06 | Trekki | so, has anyone got an idea why my fresh install won't boot correctly, but ends with a found "inconsistency" in the root filesystem instead? (asking for root pw or Ctrl+D to continue) |
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| 00:23.20 | beardy | piklu: Run it on port 80. If they block UDP though, use TCP, or use ssh instead. Depends what you really are trying to do. |
| 00:23.21 | rares | i should install a rootkit finder |
| 00:23.21 | jpinx-eeepc | piklu: /msg dpkg free whcp -- there's a few options for you |
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| 00:24.06 | beardy | piklu: You'd of course have to set it up from the inside. |
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| 00:24.28 | beardy | piklu: But there is probably some reasoning to proxying you. |
| 00:24.34 | Trekki | ah hm... I removed the UUID line in grub command and replaced it by ye olde root=/dev/hda3, now it boots at last |
| 00:24.46 | rking | rares: Something's massively fubar. It's probably something simple. We need to start backtracking to the pinpoint what caused this. When did it start happen and what was the last thing before that? |
| 00:25.18 | piklu | beardy: yes, it a company, they dnt want unrestricted access to internet........! i wanna do some work in free time......and for that they block everything ssh, cpanels...everything |
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| 00:25.22 | HermanDE_ | Trekki, Did you check the health of the hard drive before starting? |
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| 00:25.44 | rking | rares: Whoa, I did a google search for the open(...O_RDWR), and your post came up. Google's on point! |
| 00:26.02 | Trekki | the drive is OK, I had the laptop running normally, I just had the urge to install anew :) |
| 00:26.49 | beardy | piklu: If it allows socks .. things, the linux version of putty can connect easily using a socks proxy, from the machine on the inside that is, through the proxy. |
| 00:26.54 | jpinx-eeepc | piklu: whatever you do will need shell access to set it up |
| 00:27.10 | HermanDE_ | Trekki, Can you mount the ROOTFS with a bootable cd/usb? |
| 00:27.15 | Trekki | HermanDE_: it now booted normally |
| 00:27.21 | Trekki | HermanDE_: yes |
| 00:27.26 | HermanDE_ | Trekki, IT Magic.... |
| 00:27.29 | beardy | piklu: Otherwise you have to run sshd on port 80 on the outside somewhere. |
| 00:27.29 | piklu | i do have shell access to my servers |
| 00:27.30 | Trekki | In fact I did an fsck with SystemRescCd |
| 00:27.37 | Trekki | but then encountered the same again |
| 00:27.39 | HermanDE_ | Trekki, Or It's Magic... |
| 00:27.44 | Trekki | must be some thing with the kernel's root parameter |
| 00:28.02 | piklu | beardy: the proxy server inside i do not think is socks........it is probably squid |
| 00:28.11 | Trekki | I didn't do an update/upgrade during installation, b/c I want to keep the installation at a minimum amount of packages |
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| 00:31.29 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: any more suggestions? |
| 00:32.30 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: Well, what happened when you ran pluseaudio -vv as root and then mplayer as user? |
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| 00:35.32 | piklu | beardy: i need a personal browser online.........that would do...or else a personal desktop via web |
| 00:36.52 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: nothing, still no sound. |
| 00:37.03 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: that log doesn't output anything at all? |
| 00:37.26 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: what log? |
| 00:37.39 | rking | The pulseaudio -vv |
| 00:38.55 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: I hadn't looked at it. But I looked now and nothing is printed when I start mplayer with pulseaudio backend. |
| 00:38.59 | monkey_d_luffy | do you have pulse working on your system? |
| 00:40.02 | rking | Nope -- I got stuck way at the beginning, it gives me "Connection refused" when I try pacat, and I toyed with it a little bit but I ended up deprioritizing it. =\ |
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| 00:40.50 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: when I run pulseaudio -k; pulseaudio -vv as user I get at the end as errors/warnings: E: pid.c: Daemon already running. E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. |
| 00:40.50 | rahul_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.53 | monkey_d_luffy | oh ok |
| 00:41.20 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: You have to run pulsaudio -k first =P |
| 00:41.28 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: You're not making this step very easy on me. =) |
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| 00:43.30 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: what do you mean? I did run pulseaudio -k, check my message again :) I also mentioned this a while back, when in user, everytime I run pulseaudio -k, it immediatly stars itself again. |
| 00:43.49 | rahul_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:44.28 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: Hehe, oh yeah... Well you might have to wait a second in between the commands... the point is when you get that 200k of output like you had before, wait there, and then do something with mplayer, and see if it outputs anything new |
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| 00:46.17 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: no, but even when doing just pulseaudio -k a series of times, it starts automatically |
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| 00:46.52 | monkey_d_luffy | only if I type to fast it says E: main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process |
| 00:48.24 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: Then you probably have to do /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop |
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| 00:49.46 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: that says "pulseaudio is not running" but a daemon is running for my user. |
| 00:50.08 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: That's weird... why is it running for your user? |
| 00:50.59 | SerajewelKS | is it just me or did the last batch of xorg updates completely change synaptics touchpad configuration from "requires GUI tool" to "requires intimate knowledge of udev and other shit" |
| 00:51.35 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: I don't know |
| 00:51.45 | monkey_d_luffy | probably KDE starts an instance |
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| 00:54.15 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: Is it the same machine you're chatting on? If not I'd give it a reboot (or telinit 1 and back) and see what state it pulseaudio ends up in) |
| 00:55.17 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: it is :-/ |
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| 00:56.26 | rking | monkey_d_luffy: Well, I'd still go ahead and reboot, I don't have any other idea of how to tell what its natural state is. I don't know why the daemon is running as your user. |
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| 00:57.03 | monkey_d_luffy | rking: I'll try it tomorrow then. Thanks for the help |
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| 01:01.09 | lfs | I finally have X by lowering the screen resolution with ctrl alt - |
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| 01:01.18 | lfs | But there is too much green |
| 01:02.05 | allan_wind | I t looks like I hit <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=586143>. Is there a bootable unstable image? |
| 01:02.18 | lfs | Also I am getting an error beep with every key on Xchat? |
| 01:02.53 | HermanDE_ | lfs, Neat.... |
| 01:02.59 | HermanDE_ | lfs, How did you do that? |
| 01:03.09 | lfs | I dont like that at all |
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| 01:04.17 | HermanDE_ | lfs, Do you get the same thing with other apps or just xchat? |
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| 01:05.28 | lfs | Just Xchat so far. |
| 01:05.46 | lfs | I just Googled the error, can't find it |
| 01:06.00 | lfs | I must be sending a special character somehow. |
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| 01:10.06 | HermanDE_ | lfs, Check your keyboard settings.... |
| 01:11.21 | lfs | HOw to do that? |
| 01:11.32 | lfs | I did just run X -config |
| 01:11.56 | lfs | At least I have X, kind of, took me a few weeks. |
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| 01:12.48 | HermanDE_ | lfs, Did you compile from source? |
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| 01:13.01 | lfs | no |
| 01:13.21 | lfs | I changed video cards |
| 01:13.30 | HermanDE_ | That'll do it.... :) |
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| 01:13.40 | HermanDE_ | Which card did you upgrade to? |
| 01:13.42 | SerajewelKS | i don't suppose anyone is familiar with synaptics configuration on squeeze ATM |
| 01:14.01 | SerajewelKS | the udev rule on the wiki does not seem to be applied to the device |
| 01:14.43 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Are you seeing an error? |
| 01:15.59 | craigevil | SerajewelKS: take a look at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=50061 |
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| 01:22.34 | petekaz | I have a USB-external drive housing. I plug it in, it is detected, and then I mount /dev/sdb1 to some mount point. All works well. But how do I get this to mount automatically at boot time? If I add an entry to /etc/fstab, I get some errors at boot and it stops because it can't mount the filesystem. Do I have to somehow delay this? |
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| 01:25.05 | jpinx-eeepc | petekaz: what are the errors? |
| 01:25.33 | petekaz | It can't fsck the drive ext4 fs on the actual drive. |
| 01:25.33 | petekaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.20 | tbsaunde | hey, anybody have experinece with [14e44315] broadcom 4312 |
| 01:26.33 | jpinx-eeepc | petekaz: not sure if ext4 is supported in tht way yet, or if so - what the config is |
| 01:26.34 | petekaz | newbie diagnosis: Is the USB part of the kernel up and loaded when it goes to mount all the items it /etc/fstab? |
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| 01:27.22 | jpinx-eeepc | petekaz: the usb is probably fine - it's most likely your etx4 fs |
| 01:27.25 | petekaz | This is the line from my fstab: /dev/sdb1 /backup ext4 defaults 0 2 |
| 01:27.38 | tbsaunde | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.57 | petekaz | jpinx-eeepc: But it mounts fine after it is booted. |
| 01:28.38 | petekaz | jpinx-eeepc: I suppose I can just always manually mount it after a reboot. Just wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong. |
| 01:28.52 | jpinx-eeepc | petekaz: like I said - I am not sure what parameters it might need in fstab - you could try 0 0 on the end to prevent checking for a start |
| 01:29.15 | jpinx-eeepc | !ext4 |
| 01:29.15 | dpkg | [ext4] Fourth extended file system. Supports volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents. Support for ext4 filesystem features included in e2fsprogs since 1.41~WIP-2008-06-17-1. Merged in mainline Linux kernel, available in 2.6.28 and later. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. Not supported by GRUB Legacy (Debian bug #511121). http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ #ext4 on irc.oftc.net. |
| 01:29.41 | petekaz | I'm running squeeze incidentally. |
| 01:30.04 | abrotman | better than accidentally |
| 01:30.04 | jpinx-eeepc | petekaz: see #ext4 in oftc |
| 01:30.13 | petekaz | what is oftc? |
| 01:30.23 | tbsaunde | petekaz: petekaz theres the hacks answer/win 14 |
| 01:30.28 | jpinx-eeepc | read the factoid dude! |
| 01:30.33 | tbsaunde | arg |
| 01:31.11 | petekaz | jpinx-eeepc: missed that last line ... sorry. |
| 01:31.12 | petekaz | thanks. |
| 01:31.13 | tbsaunde | petekaz: you could apply the hacks, and mount it with rc.local |
| 01:31.42 | rares | does grub-pc support ext4 yet |
| 01:31.46 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: no error, just not the behavior i want |
| 01:32.30 | SerajewelKS | craigevil: already read that, synclient reports that SHMConfig is not enabled |
| 01:32.32 | qq- | rares, logic ? |
| 01:32.45 | SerajewelKS | craigevil: and there are no existing fdi or udev configuration files that switch it on |
| 01:33.26 | SerajewelKS | craigevil: every combination of stuff i try (fdi/udev) has absolutely no effect |
| 01:33.31 | rares | qq just curious if it does |
| 01:34.09 | qq- | how they boot w/o grub2 |
| 01:34.48 | qq- | they == ext4 users |
| 01:34.49 | allan_wind | to answer my question in case there are archives anyways; booted with netinst, typed in rescue then followed Sedat's instructions in 586143. |
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| 01:35.22 | rares | i am using ext3 on boot/ |
| 01:35.26 | tbsaunde | qq-: /boot on ext2? |
| 01:35.44 | qq- | hehe |
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| 01:38.23 | qq- | !tell rares about ext4 |
| 01:38.55 | petekaz | thanks for the pointers ... off to reboot and see if they work. |
| 01:40.26 | qq- | !tell rares about debian-ro |
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| 01:43.54 | SerajewelKS | basically, the latest synaptics driver has completely crippled my touchpad to the point where enough settings are not the way i like them that using the touchpad is a pain in the ass |
| 01:44.06 | SerajewelKS | and i cannot find any mechanism by which i can correct them |
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| 02:37.36 | HermanDE_ | Does anybody have good words about a snort+shorewall config? |
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| 02:50.31 | rares | I can testify that all my problems have been cause by the current version of dash |
| 02:50.47 | rares | all the way from boot to iceweasel |
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| 02:55.27 | PARLIAMENT | hey can I get someone to confirm this for me before I file a bug report.. try ffmpeg -formats | grep blahblahasdf |
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| 02:57.42 | PARLIAMENT | nobody? |
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| 02:58.24 | rking | PARLIAMENT: What are we looking for, and what debian version are you using? |
| 02:59.04 | rking | PARLIAMENT: Oh, hehe... it's on stderr. =) |
| 02:59.18 | rking | try ffmpeg -formats 2>&1 | grep blahblahasdf |
| 02:59.26 | PARLIAMENT | oh |
| 02:59.31 | PARLIAMENT | o_O thanks |
| 02:59.53 | tbsaunde | a4/win 14 |
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| 03:00.30 | rking | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_streams |
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| 03:02.25 | rares | is gnash up to youtube snuff yet?? |
| 03:02.36 | abrotman | sometimes |
| 03:02.51 | rares | no more upside down videos? |
| 03:03.32 | edgardoweb | hi |
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| 03:08.12 | jpinx-eeepc | rares: youtube-dl and vlc wfm ;) |
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| 03:16.04 | rares | k cool just keep an eye on dash it's broken |
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| 03:41.29 | leachim6 | hey, I just installed debian stable with the "Graphical Desktop" option. |
| 03:41.36 | leachim6 | how can I keep X from starting automatically |
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| 03:45.23 | jmarsden | chops1: One way is basename $pathname and dirname $pathname . If you want to get clever with bash you can do ${pathname##*/} type stuff instead... |
| 03:45.59 | chops1 | jmarsden: Excellent, thanks |
| 03:46.10 | jmarsden | chops1: You're welcome |
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| 03:47.31 | sweetpi | leachim6: one way: update-rc.d -f gdm remove |
| 03:48.54 | leachim6 | thanks |
| 03:49.57 | rares | christian marillat rox |
| 03:51.04 | sweetpi | leachim6: i would suggest searching for "debian disable service", there are many ways to do it, some have disadvantages |
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| 03:53.50 | leachim6 | sweetpi, your fix worked though |
| 03:53.55 | leachim6 | and I can start x with startx if need by |
| 03:53.58 | leachim6 | I'm running a virtual server |
| 03:54.28 | sweetpi | leachim6: yes it worked, but if i remember right, if you update gdm it will re-enable it |
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| 03:56.40 | leachim6 | will it? |
| 03:56.40 | leachim6 | :/ |
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| 04:03.30 | sweetpi | try reconfiguring it and see if it enables it again |
| 04:04.51 | sweetpi | someone else will know better than i. i just dont install things i dont need |
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| 04:16.18 | sweetpi | rares: gconf-editor |
| 04:17.24 | sweetpi | in /apps/totem/network-buffer-something |
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| 04:20.57 | dominet | folks |
| 04:21.19 | dominet | could you please help me investigate the problem... i can telnet to ssh port on remote box just fine but NOT ssh into it... connection refused. |
| 04:21.31 | dominet | i just fresh installed sshd in there |
| 04:21.48 | dominet | it's up and listening but won't allow to connect lol |
| 04:22.09 | dominet | NOTHING in auth.log when i try to ssh in with putty |
| 04:22.22 | dominet | i just get connection refused after 3 secs |
| 04:22.57 | jmarsden | dominet: Sounds like putty is trying to connect to a different IP or port than telnet was. Check all your settings. |
| 04:23.01 | dominet | at the same time telnet to the ssh port works and i even get session opened line in auth.log (which closes at once of course) |
| 04:23.13 | dominet | jmarsden no, i triple checked ip and port |
| 04:23.26 | dominet | and i used same putty with same settings to verify telnet |
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| 04:24.25 | jmarsden | dominet: If you are correct, that's very odd. Maybe run wireshark on both client and server and see what each side is doing at the packet level? |
| 04:24.26 | dominet | i tried to remove sshd and reinstall... didn't help at all |
| 04:24.36 | bleeber | dominet: what does your netstat tell you? |
| 04:24.48 | dominet | it really IS odd - i have never seen something like this before |
| 04:24.49 | bleeber | netstat -antpu | grep 22 |
| 04:24.56 | dominet | it says listening on port 22 |
| 04:25.01 | dominet | so does auth.log |
| 04:25.05 | bleeber | 0.0.0.0:22? |
| 04:25.10 | dominet | yes |
| 04:25.19 | bleeber | iptables -L |
| 04:25.30 | bleeber | no firewall rules in question? |
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| 04:25.49 | dominet | it's clean because it's a fresh box |
| 04:25.57 | dominet | just no rules there |
| 04:26.17 | bleeber | when you ssh, you arent getting anythin in teh log but when you use telnet you are? |
| 04:26.23 | dominet | yes |
| 04:26.27 | dominet | exactly as you are saying |
| 04:26.40 | dominet | sshd can see telnet connection and it opens for a sec even |
| 04:26.46 | dominet | then closes immediately |
| 04:27.03 | bleeber | are your forwarding this through a router? |
| 04:27.04 | dominet | which isn't the case with ssh client - nothing at all in the log |
| 04:27.10 | bleeber | can you connect to ssh from the localhost |
| 04:27.13 | bleeber | ssh localhost |
| 04:27.25 | dominet | yes, i can ssh in locally just fine |
| 04:27.31 | bleeber | check yoru router |
| 04:27.50 | dominet | ok thing is that it was working before |
| 04:28.09 | dominet | all i did was... i removed x11-common files |
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| 04:28.26 | dominet | not sure if it makes any sense but that's truly all i did |
| 04:28.35 | bleeber | can you connect froma box on teh same network? |
| 04:28.53 | dominet | i'm unable to do a test like that |
| 04:29.36 | bleeber | what happens if you turn on verbose move for teh ssh client when connecting |
| 04:29.39 | bleeber | any tips there |
| 04:29.45 | dominet | never tried that |
| 04:29.52 | dominet | and that might be a great idea |
| 04:30.05 | bleeber | ssh -v |
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| 04:30.19 | bleeber | actually go all out |
| 04:30.22 | bleeber | ssh -vvv |
| 04:30.22 | dominet | connecting from putty |
| 04:30.27 | bleeber | ahh |
| 04:31.01 | bleeber | want me to try |
| 04:31.02 | jmarsden | dominet: You could install Cygwin and its ssh and use ssh -v that way, if you think that will help. |
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| 04:37.19 | loopidity | once /dev/sr1 is ejected is there a way to reload the device without unplug/replug it? |
| 04:37.21 | HermanDE_ | dominet, Are you having troubles with the putty? |
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| 04:38.43 | dominet | HermanDE possibly yes |
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| 04:40.17 | HermanDE_ | My ISP is playing games with me.... |
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| 04:40.47 | HermanDE_ | dominet, take a look at puttytel .... It is a command line version of ssh for windows.... |
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| 04:41.01 | HermanDE_ | dominet, Works very well including verbose connections.... |
| 04:41.53 | HermanDE_ | dominet, Just like putty it is a single binary.... Download to your desktop and fire it up from the command line.... |
| 04:42.15 | HermanDE_ | Pretend that you are running from a really awful X windows.... |
| 04:42.24 | mf_417 | Hi, does anyone know about an open source windows pptp client ? |
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| 04:43.30 | sweetpi | i think openssh has a client win32 binary as well |
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| 04:44.53 | mf_417 | I need a pptp compatible client (openvpn is ssl compatible and did not support pptp) |
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| 04:45.21 | jmarsden | mf_417: Windows has a built in PPTP client... |
| 04:45.31 | sweetpi | mf_417: sorry that was for dominet |
| 04:46.15 | plov | how do i tell what arch version of debian i'm running? i386, ia64, etc. ? |
| 04:46.51 | jmarsden | plov: uname -m |
| 04:47.16 | plov | i686, so a i386 netinstall image is equilvalent? |
| 04:47.47 | jmarsden | Yes, you are running a 32bit x86 version of Linux with the kernel optimised for i686 |
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| 04:50.36 | sweetpi | that only shows the running kernel arch, correct? |
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| 04:53.14 | jmarsden | Yes. |
| 04:53.23 | sweetpi | so if plov was running a x86 kernel on 64-bit cpu it wouldnt report what he wants to know |
| 04:53.43 | jmarsden | That was the question, wasn't it? <plov> how do i tell what arch version of debian i'm running? i386, ia64, etc. ? |
| 04:53.49 | jmarsden | He did not ask what CPU type he has! |
| 04:54.10 | sweetpi | but he asked if a i386 netinst would be the correct choice |
| 04:54.11 | jmarsden | He asked what he is running. |
| 04:54.26 | jmarsden | No, he asked if an i386 netinst was equivalent to what he is running! |
| 04:54.37 | jmarsden | WHich is it. |
| 04:54.41 | jmarsden | Which it is... |
| 04:55.17 | sweetpi | touche.. dont know why your so upset about it though |
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| 04:57.59 | dominet | HermanDE thank you for that puttytel hint |
| 04:58.07 | dominet | will try it asap |
| 04:58.33 | dominet | btw i have just realised that something is actively REFUSING me... i get connection refused |
| 04:58.46 | dominet | so it's not a network issue |
| 04:58.59 | dominet | i tried to run ssh in sshd -d mode |
| 04:59.02 | dominet | nothing lol |
| 04:59.08 | jmarsden | dominet: If you are trying to connect to a closed port, it will say your connection attempt was refused. |
| 04:59.12 | dominet | but sucker is being ignoring me for some crazy reason |
| 04:59.27 | jmarsden | Hence my earlier idea that it is tryig to connect to a different port or IP. |
| 04:59.29 | dominet | port is open because it gets tru with telnet... |
| 04:59.49 | jmarsden | Use wireshark to check what IP and port it is really trying to open... |
| 04:59.58 | HermanDE_ | dominet, np.... I have puttytel running as part of an ugly remote desktop for users.... puttytel+vnc+nullsoft installer.... |
| 05:00.09 | dominet | mhm |
| 05:00.40 | sweetpi | dominet: maybe authorized_keys? cant remember what the error is for that though |
| 05:01.27 | jmarsden | sweetpi: I really doubt it, in that case it would have connected and then logged the issue with the keys |
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| 05:05.11 | LamerC | Hello. I've got a quick question. I'm trying to revert from a newer installed package (installed from lenny-backports) to an older version. When I try 'force version' on some of the packages, it wants to uninstall other packages that worked just fine with the old version. With others, it immediately switches back to the backport version. |
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| 05:05.22 | Angel-SL | hi |
| 05:05.27 | Angel-SL | something funny going on |
| 05:05.43 | Angel-SL | when I type 'cd in' and then hit TAB for autocompletion.. |
| 05:05.48 | Angel-SL | "ircd@hosted-by:~$ cd insp-sh: <( compgen -d -- 'insp' ): No such file or directory" |
| 05:05.53 | Angel-SL | err |
| 05:05.58 | Angel-SL | sorry, i typed 'cd insp' |
| 05:06.39 | LamerC | Is there a way to force the revert back to stable instead of lenny-backports of just those packages and make it ignore uninstalling anything else? |
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| 05:09.49 | sweetpi | jmarsden: what about known_hosts, if putty has an equivalent? if the server key changed from a reinstall(i seem to remember this exact problem) |
| 05:10.06 | sweetpi | again, i cant remember the error from that |
| 05:10.24 | jmarsden | Again it would at least open the connection to the ssh port and then complain. |
| 05:10.52 | sweetpi | oh i missed that part, its not even showing a connection |
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| 05:16.25 | Chriz | How come I cannot resize xvda1 to the size of xvda? http://pastebin.com/D1SdWeYX |
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| 05:22.10 | sweetpi | resize2fs doest resize partitions, only filesystems |
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| 05:38.41 | daltio | guys i want my root pass to expire on every 45 days and ask new pass , but i am using kerberos and when i login from console it first go to kerberos and when i do not find root in kerberos it goes to passwd file and it wont read passwd expiry policy for root user |
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| 05:38.53 | daltio | what should i do so that root pass should be expired |
| 05:39.29 | Guest31174 | english pls |
| 05:40.40 | spangaroo_ | what config file do i need to check to see if Apache is listening to a server on the LAN? |
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| 05:42.24 | HermanDE_ | spangaroo_, Are you running Lenny? |
| 05:42.30 | spangaroo_ | yes |
| 05:42.42 | HermanDE_ | spangaroo_, You could try netstat -tlpn |
| 05:42.42 | TehRabbitt | hey guys... had a quick question... I just coded something in PHP for a buddy of mine / wanted to see if anyone could try it out / lemme know if it works... only requirement is that you have bluetooth |
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| 05:43.00 | TehRabbitt | well bluetooth and apache installed |
| 05:43.05 | TehRabbitt | or any http server actually |
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| 05:43.12 | TehRabbitt | it'd be interesting if someone doesn't use apache |
| 05:43.17 | HermanDE_ | spangaroo_, Usually it exists in /etc/apache2/lports |
| 05:43.18 | Guest31174 | ok post a url |
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| 05:43.30 | HermanDE_ | /etc/apache/port.conf.... getting tired... |
| 05:44.02 | TehRabbitt | http://tenehawk.com/downloads/bluelog-0.9.6.tar.gz |
| 05:44.04 | spangaroo_ | HermanDE: this is what it says, :::80 |
| 05:44.23 | spangaroo_ | so it seems that it's open for all ports...thanks for the commands, btw. ! |
| 05:44.25 | TehRabbitt | that's the latest build of his program + my php scripts |
| 05:44.56 | HermanDE_ | spangaroo_, Ilisten on every interface at port 80.... That actually looks like an IPV6 interface..... |
| 05:45.19 | HermanDE_ | spangaroo_, Are you running IPV6? |
| 05:45.27 | TehRabbitt | you have to create two symlinks (one linking /var/lib to your /www/something dir and one from /tmp/ to /www/something/tmp) and also run the actual program with the "-l" option |
| 05:45.43 | spangaroo_ | HermanDE_: no... |
| 05:45.44 | TehRabbitt | in theory it *should* work with no php errors but i'm not sure :-\ |
| 05:46.23 | HermanDE_ | spangaroo_, try and use w3m http://localhost:80 on the system.... |
| 05:46.28 | spangaroo_ | HermanDE_: just trying to figure out the proper way access my Debian VM across the LAN (i'm on 4F, VM is on 10F) |
| 05:46.51 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, It's not a tar.gz... ..... |
| 05:47.06 | spangaroo_ | HermanDE_: i can access it over the WAN with my FDQN but it's slow due to our annoying proxy |
| 05:47.26 | TehRabbitt | 0_o it's not? (i swore i put it as a tar.gz :-\) |
| 05:47.41 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, Gnome is acting silly...... :) |
| 05:48.05 | TehRabbitt | lol aight |
| 05:48.10 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, fail number 2.... Not tar.gz |
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| 05:48.36 | TehRabbitt | hm :-\ "tar -xvzf bluelog-0.9.6.tar.gz" works for me.... |
| 05:49.11 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, tar: This does not look like a tar archive tar: Skipping to next header tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors |
| 05:49.17 | TehRabbitt | 0_o |
| 05:49.30 | TehRabbitt | that's... not good... hold on... |
| 05:49.49 | HermanDE_ | I don't have bluetooth... Just interested in the code... :) |
| 05:50.03 | TehRabbitt | this is what I used: tar -zcvf bluelog-0.9.6.tar.gz bluelog-0.9.6/ |
| 05:50.25 | TehRabbitt | HermanDE, ah... lol well my friend wrote the code, I did the PHP |
| 05:50.57 | TehRabbitt | originally the original version of his code just displayed the results using SSI and HTML... the PHP version now lets you sort by "bluetooth class type" |
| 05:51.03 | TehRabbitt | so if you click "computers" it'll show all computers |
| 05:51.04 | TehRabbitt | etc |
| 05:51.55 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, I gunzipped and untarred... works fine.... Hmmm... Krazy.... |
| 05:52.45 | TehRabbitt | weird 0_o |
| 05:52.52 | TehRabbitt | i was gonna say the md5 should be: f98d5eca4a11bd94e72a695b48e8a1c8 |
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| 05:54.05 | daltio | anu idea guys |
| 05:54.11 | TehRabbitt | if anyone here does have both bluetooth and an http server supporting php installed (or is willing to install one) wants to test the php part of what i posted it'd be a great help. |
| 05:54.53 | TehRabbitt | HermanDE, do you see what I mean about the PHP functionality? |
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| 05:57.19 | TehRabbitt | HermanDE, if you want to see what it looks like Live: http://thoth.tenehawk.com:456/bluelog/index.php |
| 05:57.32 | TehRabbitt | that's the working PHP site installed on my devel server |
| 05:59.08 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, I like the idea.... |
| 05:59.34 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, Pretty sweet.... |
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| 06:00.20 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, I can see this installed at a corp site.... Encouraging employees to lock their bluetooth devices.... |
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| 06:00.43 | TehRabbitt | yea, my friend realized there's no real BT scanner out there that is simple / easy to use... so he made one etc.. and then I realized that his interface was rather basic / everything was kinda just one big table of BT devices so I was like "hm there's gotta be a better way" so i opened nano and yea lol |
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| 06:00.53 | TehRabbitt | HermanDE: yea, that's pretty much the idea lol |
| 06:00.55 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, Or as a method of providing instant bluetooth sharing from a bluetooth port |
| 06:01.18 | TehRabbitt | that, things like security audits, etc... he's trying to get it into the next release of backtrack |
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| 06:01.26 | TehRabbitt | i think |
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| 06:01.51 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, I can see someone injecting CodeIgnition.... And creating a Database of seen devices..... |
| 06:01.56 | TehRabbitt | howso? |
| 06:02.06 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, With a history of toys seen.... |
| 06:02.37 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, I've been using the CodeIgnition framework for a few months.... Prototyping is amazing.... |
| 06:02.50 | TehRabbitt | hm... what is CodeIgnition? |
| 06:03.07 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, Do you know about drupal? |
| 06:03.07 | TehRabbitt | and you mean create like a MySQL database storing all the recorded data rather than using .log files? |
| 06:03.16 | TehRabbitt | nope lol i've heard of it though |
| 06:03.48 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, Why a full mysql.... Just a small text file or a sqllite situation.... |
| 06:04.23 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, Ok.... Drupal is a huge framework.... More like a full application that needs custimizing..... |
| 06:05.04 | TehRabbitt | hm |
| 06:05.05 | HermanDE_ | Code ignition lite framework that follows MVC to the letter....... ... |
| 06:05.19 | HermanDE_ | Functions are designed to make things easy.... |
| 06:05.23 | TehRabbitt | ah |
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| 06:05.42 | TehRabbitt | so how would it be used with bluelog though? you' mean like running bluelog on a drupal device or something? |
| 06:06.18 | HermanDE_ | Code Ignition is much smaller.... |
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| 06:06.40 | HermanDE_ | It's worth a look.... Bet you could create a whole DB backend within a few hours.... |
| 06:07.00 | HermanDE_ | including authentication... Then template out the frontend.... |
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| 06:07.10 | HermanDE_ | Provide a soap interface for other systems.... |
| 06:07.13 | TehRabbitt | hm... what would you run it on though? just a regular computer? or would you run it on like a small device that supports code ignition or such? |
| 06:07.25 | HermanDE_ | The whole thing could be up within a few hours.... Including beer break.... |
| 06:08.18 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, It is a PHP Framework. |
| 06:08.22 | TehRabbitt | ah. |
| 06:08.27 | TehRabbitt | lol |
| 06:08.34 | HermanDE_ | TeHRabbitt, It would be the web interface/db/etc..... |
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| 06:09.02 | TehRabbitt | that could be useful then lol... I mean I put this one together in about 4 hours today |
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| 06:09.24 | HermanDE_ | TeHRabbitt,.... Then you will probably go insane with CI.... across a few hours.... |
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| 06:09.39 | TehRabbitt | lol eh most of the time was trying to figure out why he was parsing HTML within his C code |
| 06:09.47 | TehRabbitt | and removing all the unneeded HTML tags |
| 06:09.58 | TehRabbitt | again originally it was designed for SSI |
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| 06:10.02 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, eewwww.... |
| 06:10.06 | TehRabbitt | yeaaaa :( |
| 06:10.24 | HermanDE_ | Gnome is killing me..... Gotta restart this fscking session.... |
| 06:10.26 | TehRabbitt | so basically I changed the .C file to just write to a CSV log... lol |
| 06:10.56 | HermanDE_ | He did it in classic C? Not even c++? |
| 06:11.10 | TehRabbitt | yea :-\ i said the same thing haha |
| 06:11.15 | HermanDE_ | Guess he hates objects...... |
| 06:11.22 | TehRabbitt | I never used C before, i always used C++ |
| 06:11.29 | TehRabbitt | so I wasn't used to how strings were handled either |
| 06:11.29 | TehRabbitt | lmao |
| 06:11.34 | TehRabbitt | and he uses TONS of those... |
| 06:11.40 | TehRabbitt | found out it's nothing mroe than pointers of char |
| 06:11.53 | HermanDE_ | C parsing HTML to output HTML.... eeewwwwwwwww...... |
| 06:12.08 | TehRabbitt | so most of my 4 hours was spent on getting the C to format the .log file properly to work with PHP |
| 06:12.14 | TehRabbitt | (which he claims PHP sucks lmao) |
| 06:12.27 | TehRabbitt | yet I think the outcome looks rather clean / works nice |
| 06:12.58 | HermanDE_ | Of course.... PHP is an OO interpretave language.... Way too flexable.... |
| 06:13.03 | TehRabbitt | LOL |
| 06:13.08 | TehRabbitt | yea he doesn't like OO i dont think haha |
| 06:13.14 | HermanDE_ | Must have structure in life...... |
| 06:13.19 | TehRabbitt | he uses slackware |
| 06:13.29 | TehRabbitt | umm super organized.. |
| 06:13.34 | HermanDE_ | An item must fit within this memory object... |
| 06:13.38 | TehRabbitt | lol |
| 06:13.45 | Bushmills | parsing the output of html2text rather than parsing html comes to mind |
| 06:14.18 | TehRabbitt | Bushmills: what do you mean? |
| 06:14.39 | HermanDE_ | I think there was a distro a few years ago trying to make a full "C" linux system.... |
| 06:14.48 | TehRabbitt | 0_o damn... |
| 06:14.51 | Bushmills | instead of parse foo, html2text < foo|parse |
| 06:14.53 | HermanDE_ | Nothing C++ allowed.... |
| 06:15.09 | TehRabbitt | lol |
| 06:15.27 | HermanDE_ | Haven't heard from them since the announcement..... |
| 06:15.31 | TehRabbitt | you did see the workign example at my server though btw? |
| 06:15.34 | HermanDE_ | Guess they are very busy..... |
| 06:15.45 | TehRabbitt | this example: http://thoth.tenehawk.com:456/bluelog/index.php |
| 06:15.52 | HermanDE_ | Got it up.... |
| 06:15.58 | TehRabbitt | aightt :) |
| 06:16.06 | TehRabbitt | the ONLY problem I have with it is this.... |
| 06:16.09 | HermanDE_ | Pretty straight forward.... |
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| 06:16.27 | TehRabbitt | if you fail to run bluelog before you go to the page... php fails to load / major issues |
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| 06:16.30 | HermanDE_ | fonting on the table could be smaller... |
| 06:16.34 | TehRabbitt | because the .log doesn't exist |
| 06:16.39 | TehRabbitt | so I need to catch the parse error |
| 06:16.58 | TehRabbitt | yea, I didn't wanna touch his CSS quite yet... lol |
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| 06:18.00 | TehRabbitt | originally I put it with no table padding and he didn't like it |
| 06:18.01 | HermanDE_ | Tables?????? Aren't we in 2010? |
| 06:18.12 | TehRabbitt | http://tenehawk.com/WebDev/bluelogtest.php?class=Toy |
| 06:18.17 | HermanDE_ | Tables with cell frames..... :) |
| 06:18.27 | TehRabbitt | well look above, I liked that version better |
| 06:18.30 | TehRabbitt | but he didn't lol |
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| 06:18.59 | SerajewelKS | wonders when he joined #randomofftopicshit |
| 06:19.07 | HermanDE_ | tehRabbitt, I like quick and easy..... |
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| 06:19.30 | TehRabbitt | HermanDE: which is which version? the test one i just sent or the one that is "released"? |
| 06:19.33 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Any questions that don't involve touch pads? |
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| 06:20.09 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, Nothing there except for a single log line.... |
| 06:20.11 | TehRabbitt | HermanDE: this is the "original" HTML/SSI version: ftp://ftp.digifail.com/downloads/software/bluelog/bluelog-0.9.5.tar.gz |
| 06:20.23 | TehRabbitt | if you wanna look at how much I had to *fix* heh |
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| 06:20.24 | TehRabbitt | lol |
| 06:20.24 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: as that remains the most intrusive issue i'm experiencing with debian, not really. also, it's on-topic here. |
| 06:20.29 | rubin110 | After using apt-get --build source, is the package built automatically installed or is there another step? |
| 06:20.53 | SerajewelKS | rubin110: no, all the debs will be in the working directory. you must then install them by hand. |
| 06:21.03 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt, Thanks.... |
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| 06:21.37 | rubin110 | SerajewelKS: Ah, I see. |
| 06:21.41 | TehRabbitt | that actually reminds me... does anyone know how hard it would be to eventually get it included in debian sources once he gets a fully "stable" release (completely bug-free)? |
| 06:21.44 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Geeze... I just remembered... I have a lappy with a syn touchpad..... |
| 06:21.47 | TehRabbitt | HermanDE: np |
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| 06:22.03 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, I'll blow off the dust and fire it up.... |
| 06:23.12 | TehRabbitt | HermanDE: did the link I sent you work? lol |
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| 06:24.18 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: nifty. everyone i've talked to seems to have no issues with their touchpads working properly OOTB. i'm not sure why exactly mine doesn't. :( |
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| 06:24.36 | TehRabbitt | that's the latest quote "official" release of bluelog... I'm presenting to him my latest edits / modifications in the morning which should become the next "official testing" release but as of right now mine is still considered 'unstable' because he hasn't tested it yet lol |
| 06:24.53 | Guest31174 | if u guys wanna upgrade debian |
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| 06:25.14 | Guest31174 | try ubuntu |
| 06:25.16 | TehRabbitt | in regard to debian though how hard is it to get the finished copy of bluelog into debian testing or sid even? |
| 06:26.06 | HermanDE_ | Guest31174 And if you wish to have a stable system.... Switch to Debian.... |
| 06:26.33 | HermanDE_ | Guest31174... You know... The one that doesn't require a reboot....after GNOME crashes again.... |
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| 06:28.00 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: don't feed him |
| 06:28.05 | TehRabbitt | HermanDE: LMAO |
| 06:28.37 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Everybody needs food... And most really Leet people are stuffed after the first bite..... |
| 06:28.39 | TehRabbitt | does anyone here know about how to get a program into the sources (or aptitude etc) |
| 06:29.00 | HermanDE_ | TehRabbitt Create a repository.... |
| 06:29.01 | fabz | /etc/apt/sources.lst' |
| 06:29.07 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: is it a debian package? |
| 06:29.12 | fabz | or something like that |
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| 06:29.23 | TehRabbitt | SerajewelKS: not yet... want to make one eventually |
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| 06:29.29 | HermanDE_ | First questions are good... :) |
| 06:29.46 | TehRabbitt | he's going to be making a slackbuild for slackware, I'm going to be working on getting it into debian if I can.... |
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| 06:30.28 | TehRabbitt | i mean right now it's still rather easy to install but you still need to compile etc |
| 06:30.48 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto#id3032359 is obsolete but still works well enough |
| 06:31.03 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: if it's just one deb, usually it's easier to dpkg -i |
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| 06:31.26 | TehRabbitt | well it does have requirements (bluez and bluetooth dev libraries) |
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| 06:32.42 | TehRabbitt | i'm guessing the how to goes over how to include dependencies? |
| 06:32.58 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Are you running Xorg? |
| 06:33.14 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: as opposed to... xfree? |
| 06:33.31 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Yep... Strangly some people use it still.... |
| 06:33.40 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: the howto goes over creating a repository, not creating packages |
| 06:33.47 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: dependency declaration is done in the package itself |
| 06:33.58 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: eh, well, yeah xorg |
| 06:34.22 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, take a look at your xorg log.... See what is says about your synaptic.... |
| 06:34.23 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: the latest round of updates borked synaptics for me. Xorg.0.log indicates that synaptics is being used, but synclient et al refuse to detect it. |
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| 06:34.55 | TehRabbitt | SerajewelKS: ah, aight... |
| 06:34.56 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: tsconfig notes that it is there but any configuration changes i make with it do not appear to affect anything |
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| 06:36.13 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: a repository is really just an indexed collection of packages |
| 06:37.10 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, things seem to be working here as well.... |
| 06:37.18 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: :* |
| 06:37.22 | SerajewelKS | :( rather |
| 06:37.23 | HermanDE_ | synclient borks due to access to shared memory.... |
| 06:37.27 | SerajewelKS | (it's dark in here) |
| 06:37.29 | HermanDE_ | but the system works well.... |
| 06:37.32 | TehRabbitt | SerajewelKS: so If I were to make it into a pacakge, and get it all setup, how would it go from being in a repository that I setup for it to go into like the main debian repository (eventually) |
| 06:37.43 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: the touchpad *works* but it's configured exactly how i don't want it |
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| 06:38.02 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: e.g. i don't want taps, and i want to increase the horizontal delta, since the touchpad is "widescreen" |
| 06:38.14 | HermanDE_ | When you run the synclient from the command line.... Do you see a shared memory error? |
| 06:38.17 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: which, oddly enough, was all configured correctly pre-update |
| 06:38.32 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: no, "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?" |
| 06:38.35 | Guest31174 | r u saying debian is better |
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| 06:38.45 | SerajewelKS | !ops Guest31174 ubuntu troll |
| 06:38.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: serajewelks complains about: Guest31174 ubuntu troll |
| 06:39.06 | ondrejk | hi, how can i search for name of package which owns filename(for example rlog), even if i dont have that package installed ... |
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| 06:39.16 | SerajewelKS | !tell ondrejk about apt-file |
| 06:39.37 | ondrejk | SerajewelKS: i know about that, but apt-file is deprecated isn't it? |
| 06:39.58 | SerajewelKS | ondrejk: it is? |
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| 06:40.26 | ondrejk | SerajewelKS: if its part of apt, it deprecated ... as far i know .. |
| 06:40.41 | SerajewelKS | ondrejk: apt is deprecated? are you high? |
| 06:41.04 | ondrejk | no, that's just my bad english ;) |
| 06:41.11 | TehRabbitt | anyway, i gotta get goin to bed, i'm exausted... thanks again SerajewelKS, and thanks HermanDE for your help looking it over :) |
| 06:41.22 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: np |
| 06:41.36 | SerajewelKS | ondrejk: apt is not deprecated |
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| 06:41.58 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Just borked my lappy.... Time to unbork with a scrambled display..... |
| 06:42.26 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Should have checked configs before editing.... on an *OLD* lappy.... |
| 06:42.28 | SerajewelKS | HermanDE_: nvidia? |
| 06:42.33 | HermanDE_ | FSCKING WORLD..... |
| 06:42.41 | HermanDE_ | Must fdisk the world.... |
| 06:43.05 | WormFood | why would gthumb run OK as root, but seg fault when run as my normal user? (I haven't tried running it under a new user account) |
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| 06:44.13 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Yep..... |
| 06:44.22 | gen0cide | Hey how would upgrade to the newest experimental kernel using aptitude? |
| 06:44.42 | gen0cide | I* |
| 06:44.44 | ondrejk | SerajewelKS: ok, so is there way for doing this in aptitude? or apt-file is only way? |
| 06:44.57 | streuner | gen0cide: why do you think you need an experimental kernel? |
| 06:45.05 | SerajewelKS | ondrejk: aptitude is a package manager, it's a different tool |
| 06:45.13 | gen0cide | Im keep getting nwid errors using my wifi card |
| 06:45.26 | ondrejk | SerajewelKS: ok, didnt know that, thank you |
| 06:45.28 | gen0cide | And i didnt when i was using an older kernel |
| 06:45.35 | gen0cide | Im using a bpo one atm |
| 06:45.55 | streuner | so you are on lenny/stable? |
| 06:46.01 | gen0cide | ya |
| 06:46.18 | gen0cide | im running the 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 kernel |
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| 06:46.59 | streuner | with lenny/stable it isnt possible to use experimental packages |
| 06:47.18 | gen0cide | The count for nwid errors is keep going up |
| 06:47.31 | gen0cide | and the bit rate gets bogged down to 1 mb/s |
| 06:48.02 | Guest31174 | do you want something that just works |
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| 06:48.07 | streuner | and you are sure a newer kernel fix that? |
| 06:48.15 | gen0cide | i want it to work heh |
| 06:48.17 | gen0cide | I dont know |
| 06:48.26 | gen0cide | its a 3 year old wifi card |
| 06:48.38 | gen0cide | im using the madwifi driver, maybe i could use ath5k |
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| 06:49.08 | streuner | !madwifi |
| 06:49.08 | dpkg | [madwifi] the <non-free> legacy driver for Atheros 802.11a/bg PCI wireless LAN chipsets. To install on Lenny, ask me about <madwifi-install> or follow the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/ath_pci . http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Support #madwifi on irc.freenode.net. Removed from Debian post-Lenny to resolve bug #519446; Squeeze users, ask me about <ath5k> or <ath9k> (802.11n). |
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| 06:49.11 | gen0cide | even though madwifi used to work alright with the older kernel this came with |
| 06:49.17 | SerajewelKS | gen0cide: madwifi is deprecated, you should only use it if ath?k doesn't work |
| 06:49.29 | greedo | http://pastebin.com/j9kgEU4U |
| 06:49.33 | greedo | very confused |
| 06:49.36 | gen0cide | How would i replace madwifi with ath5k ? |
| 06:49.42 | gen0cide | i blacklisted ath5k also |
| 06:49.54 | streuner | gen0cide: look at debian's wiki |
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| 06:50.20 | streuner | gen0cide: there is a HOWTO about |
| 06:50.41 | gen0cide | ok im reading the wiki |
| 06:51.03 | SerajewelKS | greedo: your dns servers are broken? |
| 06:51.22 | streuner | gen0cide: http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k#SwitchingfromMadWifitoath5k |
| 06:51.46 | greedo | no |
| 06:53.25 | gen0cide | I hate it that they changed ath0 into wlan0 |
| 06:53.28 | gen0cide | can i change that back |
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| 06:54.43 | greedo | does debian keep a dns cache? |
| 06:55.25 | streuner | no |
| 06:55.40 | greedo | hmm |
| 06:56.24 | SerajewelKS | greedo: does "dig ftp.us.debian.org" report any IP address? |
| 06:57.19 | greedo | yes |
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| 06:58.06 | HermanDE_ | SerajewelKS, Just unborked my lappy.... I really should spend time fixing text mode..... Fdisk the world.... |
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| 06:58.35 | gen0cide | I removed the ath5k out of its default directory |
| 06:58.41 | gen0cide | How would i reinstall ath5k ? |
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| 06:59.12 | SerajewelKS | greedo: how about "nslookup ftp.us.debian.org" |
| 06:59.46 | greedo | yes |
| 06:59.50 | HermanDE_ | greedo, How about ping ftp.us.debian.org |
| 06:59.57 | HermanDE_ | greedo, then host ftp.us.debian.org |
| 06:59.58 | streuner | gen0cide: ath5k is in the kernel itself... |
| 07:00.11 | greedo | got a response from dns server |
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| 07:00.35 | gen0cide | streuner: I removed it from the /lib/modules |
| 07:00.40 | streuner | haha |
| 07:00.51 | daltio | guys i am stuck |
| 07:00.53 | daltio | any idea |
| 07:01.00 | greedo | PING ftp.us.debian.org (149.20.20.135) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 07:01.03 | greedo | 64 bytes from mirrors1.kernel.org (149.20.20.135) |
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| 07:01.07 | greedo | good |
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| 07:01.14 | daltio | how i say my machine not to read kerberos for root pass |
| 07:01.26 | streuner | gen0cide: just use --reinstall option for your kernel then... |
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| 07:02.32 | gen0cide | i still have the ath5k.ko |
| 07:02.40 | gen0cide | http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=sid&searchon=contents&keywords=ath5k.ko |
| 07:02.51 | gen0cide | lll just copy it into the directory |
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| 07:03.31 | SerajewelKS | greedo: is the failure intermittent or permanent? |
| 07:04.31 | WormFood | anyone have a clue, as to why would gthumb run OK as root, but seg fault when run as my normal user? |
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| 07:05.02 | streuner | well, gqview and other segfault when using root here (sid) |
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| 07:06.10 | yannf | hello |
| 07:06.19 | greedo | appears permanent at the moment |
| 07:06.44 | yannf | how to access a 64 bits from a 32 bits install? |
| 07:06.55 | SerajewelKS | greedo: odd, all i can suggest is strace |
| 07:07.07 | SerajewelKS | yannf: can you define what "a 64 bits" is? |
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| 07:07.13 | greedo | ok, strace |
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| 07:07.44 | greedo | haha, can't get that |
| 07:07.58 | SerajewelKS | greedo: awesome |
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| 07:08.49 | yannf | SerajewelKS, running an amd64 arch |
| 07:09.20 | SerajewelKS | yannf: do you mean, can you run a 64-bit program in a 32-bit environment? no, you can't. |
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| 07:09.45 | WormFood | but you can run a 32-bit program, in a 64-bit environment (usually) |
| 07:10.24 | yannf | I have 2 installs: 64 bits Debian, and 32 bits Ubuntu |
| 07:10.26 | SerajewelKS | if you have the required 32-bit libraries |
| 07:10.47 | WormFood | or if your app is statically linked (needs no libraries) |
| 07:10.48 | yannf | I can chroot from Debian to Ubuntu |
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| 07:11.05 | yannf | now I would like to chroot from Ubuntu to Debian |
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| 07:11.23 | SerajewelKS | yannf: you cannot run 64-bit software on a 32-bit kernel. period. |
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| 07:12.12 | SerajewelKS | yannf: if you want to chroot into a debian environment from an ubuntu environment, then either (1) the arch of both installs must be the same, or (2) the outer install must be 64-bit and the inner install 32-bit. |
| 07:12.30 | SerajewelKS | yannf: it actually doesn't much matter which distro is which |
| 07:12.47 | SerajewelKS | yannf: but you cannot chroot from a 32-bit environment into a 64-bit one |
| 07:13.02 | yannf | I did that on Gentoo some time back: install a static 32 bash, but I can't find the info how to do it on Debian |
| 07:13.24 | yannf | *32 bits static Bash |
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| 07:14.04 | SerajewelKS | yannf: if the kernel you are running under is 32-bit then you CANNOT run 64-bit binaries |
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| 07:14.38 | yannf | SerajewelKS, yes, I know, I need to use a 64 bits kernel too |
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| 07:28.29 | gen0cide | hey how do i reinstall my kernel, i deleted ath5k and i want it back heh |
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| 07:30.03 | streuner | <streuner> gen0cide: just use --reinstall option for your kernel then... |
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| 07:30.17 | gen0cide | I used that and it didnt do anything |
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| 07:30.33 | topi` | Hi. this might be a FAQ item, but how do I access/find older versions of unstable packages? |
| 07:30.48 | gen0cide | Im going to have to tackle this another night, im gona goto sleep |
| 07:30.50 | gen0cide | gnight |
| 07:30.51 | topi` | I need to downgrade my glib to around 2.20 (it's 2.24.x now in unstable) |
| 07:31.02 | streuner | apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r` |
| 07:31.56 | valdyn | !sdo |
| 07:31.56 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 07:32.14 | topi` | valdyn, thanks |
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| 07:43.26 | topi` | darn... I can't seem to be able to force apt-get to install an older version |
| 07:43.27 | topi` | sudo apt-get -t '2.20*' install libglib2.0-0 |
| 07:43.42 | topi` | and it says "libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version" |
| 07:43.56 | Guest31174 | how do u do that |
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| 07:44.24 | topi` | any way to see which different versions are available in my archives? after adding a snapshot line to sources.list and running apt-get update |
| 07:44.37 | SerajewelKS | topi`: you need to download the older deb and dpkg -i it |
| 07:44.57 | SerajewelKS | topi`: apt-cache policy packagename shows you the various available versions |
| 07:45.09 | SerajewelKS | topi`: (didn't realize you added the source) |
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| 07:46.53 | topi` | SerajewelKS: I added the source because downgrading glib has lots of dependencies |
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| 07:47.02 | H2S04 | ping glotzen.dyndns.org |
| 07:47.17 | hebz0rl | hi im hosting several domains an a debian server now i want to monitor how much traffic each domain (they all point to a single ip) produces each month how can i do that? |
| 07:47.28 | topi` | I just need to compile a stupid wxwidgets software. and currently it's broken because a wxwidgets class nameclashes with the newest glib |
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| 07:48.54 | topi` | my manpage for apt-get does not document the "policy" command at all :( |
| 07:50.08 | macrobat | apt-cache policy :) |
| 07:50.24 | topi` | oops |
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| 07:52.42 | Voldenet | hebz0rl, i think saying what webserver you use would make guessing little easier |
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| 07:53.14 | hebz0rl | Voldenet, lighttpd |
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| 07:55.17 | Voldenet | hebz0rl, try using ModAccessLog |
| 07:55.30 | Voldenet | http://redmine.lighttpd.net/wiki/1/Docs:ModAccessLog |
| 07:56.19 | jlaw | hello all. i've an up2date debian squeeze installation and am trying to set up an postgresql db. i've installed the postgresql-client package but i am lacking the 'postgres' command. have i missed anything? |
| 07:56.46 | hebz0rl | Voldenet, thanks! |
| 07:57.27 | Voldenet | jlaw, what is "postgres"? |
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| 07:57.37 | Voldenet | did you mean: psql |
| 07:57.39 | Voldenet | ? |
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| 07:58.06 | jlaw | Voldenet, wait a second, i think i just mixed something up |
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| 07:58.37 | jpinx-eeepc | hands something15525 the irssi deb so he can use more than one irc server at a time ;) |
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| 07:59.19 | Voldenet | postgre service: /etc/init.d/postgresql {start|restart|stop} |
| 07:59.22 | Voldenet | client: psql |
| 07:59.42 | Voldenet | control: /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/pg_ctl |
| 07:59.48 | something15525 | Hey guys, i'm having a problem with creating a file system during an install on a Asus EEE PC 1005PE: getting the same errors as in bug #583551. tried the fixes listed in the bug page, but none work as this is during the installation of debian squeeze. any ideas? |
| 07:59.58 | something15525 | jpinx-eeepc lol using mirc on windows |
| 07:59.59 | jlaw | Voldenet, sorry for bothering, solved the problem (it was sitting in front of the pc, like 95% of problems) -.- |
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| 08:00.17 | Voldenet | :) |
| 08:01.02 | jpinx-eeepc | !comfort something15525 |
| 08:01.03 | dpkg | There, there, something15525. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 08:01.32 | something15525 | lol jpinx-eeepc thanks so much |
| 08:02.07 | Voldenet | you got current netinst image? |
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| 08:02.44 | something15525 | Voldenet, netinst was not working for me so well, so i just burned the distro with xfce on it to a cd and hooked it up via ide to usb |
| 08:03.00 | Voldenet | Hm. |
| 08:03.21 | Voldenet | I'd try installing Debian from another *working* distr with debootstrap |
| 08:03.40 | something15525 | at first i was tryin to just net install from a usb drive, but my network drivers are athlc or whatever so they weren't being detected? |
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| 08:04.19 | jpinx-eeepc | something15525: did you follow the install guide in teh debian eeepc wiki |
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| 08:04.58 | Guest31174 | when u r tired of debian why not you bun too |
| 08:05.13 | something15525 | Guest31174 ubuntu's not for me |
| 08:05.16 | something15525 | :P |
| 08:05.33 | Guest31174 | y |
| 08:05.37 | something15525 | jpinx-eeepc more or less, the guide kinda all over the place |
| 08:05.43 | something15525 | guide is* |
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| 08:06.33 | streuner | dpkg, ops Guest31174 <-- ubuntu troll |
| 08:06.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: streuner complains about: Guest31174 <-- ubuntu troll |
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| 08:07.00 | something15525 | LOLLLLL |
| 08:07.17 | Guest31174 | just offering some help |
| 08:07.20 | something15525 | soooooooooooooooooooooo......i be needin sum help? |
| 08:07.41 | something15525 | oh lol Voldenet didn't see ur post |
| 08:07.48 | jpinx-eeepc | something15525: on another note - here is irssi for your current situation http://irssi.org/files/irssi-win32-0.8.12.exe |
| 08:07.54 | minver | After I installed PostFix I get a message "new mail in var/mail/root" from time to time when I'm logged in as root. Why is that? I haven't done any configuration |
| 08:08.07 | something15525 | Voldenet hate to sound stupid, whats debootstrap and how do i use it |
| 08:08.25 | something15525 | jpinx-eeepc thanks but i'll stick with this till i switch over |
| 08:08.50 | Voldenet | debootstrap is like arch's pacman |
| 08:08.55 | Voldenet | it allows you to install debian |
| 08:08.59 | Voldenet | from another working distribution |
| 08:09.13 | Voldenet | its tool installing basic debian to any directory |
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| 08:09.19 | Voldenet | for installing* |
| 08:09.45 | alcohol | mornin' people |
| 08:09.52 | Voldenet | mornin |
| 08:10.00 | something15525 | Voldenet how do i be usin it??? |
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| 08:10.25 | jpinx-eeepc | something15525: I was meaning this install guide http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallUsingStandardInstaller |
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| 08:10.38 | Voldenet | like this: debootstrap squeeze /media/hda2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
| 08:11.09 | grimpirate | Hello I'm attempting to install some deb packages to an offline computer |
| 08:11.14 | something15525 | Voldenet i don't have a current debian distro |
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| 08:11.16 | grimpirate | I tried following this tutorial http://jedrm.wordpress.com/2006/09/12/howto-updateinstallupgrade-a-debian-box-with-no-internet/ |
| 08:11.19 | vallhalla | hello all |
| 08:11.24 | Guest31174 | hi |
| 08:11.27 | Voldenet | something15525, use livecd which is working |
| 08:11.31 | Voldenet | there are bunch of those |
| 08:11.32 | something15525 | vallhalla hey there |
| 08:11.38 | something15525 | Voldenet alrighty |
| 08:11.56 | Voldenet | btw, there should be tutorial how to use: http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
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| 08:13.24 | jpinx-eeepc | something15525: the eeepc specific stuff is in the link I gave you there |
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| 08:13.58 | something15525 | jpinx-eeepc thats the one i was using but theres like three diffrent install methods the page is all ove the place |
| 08:14.30 | vallhalla | can anyone help me get my mplayer to play correctly in framebuffer? |
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| 08:15.52 | vallhalla | dpkg: mplayer |
| 08:15.53 | dpkg | MPlayer is a movie player for Unix-like systems, packaged for Debian. Binary codecs can be installed with the /usr/share/mplayer/scripts/binary_codecs.sh script. For DVD support, ask me about <dvd playback>. Unofficial packages are available on <debian-multimedia>. As an alternative, use a player based on <xine> or <vlc>. Also ask me about <mplayer faq>, <mencoder>. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ #mplayer on irc.freenode.net. |
| 08:17.08 | something15525 | Voldenet live.debian.org? |
| 08:17.16 | something15525 | Voldenet live.debian.net? |
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| 08:20.02 | something15525 | Voldenet what is a good livecd to use |
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| 08:21.33 | Guest31174 | is there a debian livecd btw |
| 08:21.47 | something15525 | Guest31174 i think live.debian.net is your answer |
| 08:22.14 | Guest31174 | is it good for trying debian |
| 08:22.39 | something15525 | no idea getting it right now |
| 08:23.25 | krion | hi |
| 08:23.33 | something15525 | Guest31174 i'll give you an update after i use it |
| 08:23.44 | Guest31174 | sure |
| 08:23.46 | krion | anyone experiencing flapping with e1000 driver on an up2date lenny ? |
| 08:23.54 | krion | kernel 2.6.26-amd64 |
| 08:24.01 | jelly | something15525: official debian livecd only gives you the base system. This is not excessively usable. |
| 08:24.27 | something15525 | jelly: does it have debootstrap? |
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| 08:26.28 | Guest31174 | jelly is there a good debian livecd |
| 08:26.39 | RichiH | Guest31174: grml |
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| 08:27.21 | RichiH | Guest31174: to be specific, there are a lot of live CDs _based_ on debian. grml would be the "best" by most tech-head's definition |
| 08:27.26 | RichiH | but... |
| 08:27.28 | RichiH | !best |
| 08:27.28 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 08:27.34 | something15525 | does anybody know a live cd that i could use debootstrap on to install squeeze onto an eeepc? |
| 08:27.43 | something15525 | !best livecd |
| 08:27.47 | something15525 | lol |
| 08:27.58 | Guest31174 | is grml debian? |
| 08:28.33 | jelly | something15525: don't know if the base system has it. |
| 08:28.45 | jelly | !grml |
| 08:28.45 | dpkg | grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 08:29.48 | jelly | Guest31174: it's custom packages and configuration on top of a Debian unstable snapshot |
| 08:30.00 | Guest31174 | oh ic |
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| 08:30.28 | something15525 | Voldenet: jelly: how do i use debootstrap to install from a livecd to a eeepc system? |
| 08:31.04 | jelly | something15525: have you tried reading debian's wiki about eeepc? |
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| 08:32.53 | dupondje | what mirrors can be used for Etch ? seems like it got removed from most |
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| 08:33.03 | something15525 | jelly: i have been through that process already, got an error during install that is listed as bug #583551, and can't get around it |
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| 08:33.10 | streuner | !etch |
| 08:33.10 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
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| 08:33.48 | something15525 | !squeeze |
| 08:33.48 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. Check http://www.debian.org/News/ for current status and ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze . See also <squeeze kernel>. |
| 08:34.03 | something15525 | !squeeze kernel |
| 08:34.03 | dpkg | methinks squeeze kernel is likely to be 2.6.32 and will not have kernel mode setting enabled by default. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg00003.html and ask me about <KMS>. See also <squeeze udev>, <kernel abi>. |
| 08:34.45 | something15525 | !atl1c |
| 08:34.45 | dpkg | atl1c is a driver for Atheros L1C PCI-E gigabit Ethernet (AR8131) and Fast Ethernet (AR8132) controllers, used in some laptop and netbook systems (e.g. Acer Aspire Timeline 4810T, various Asus Eee PCs). Included in the mainline Linux kernel as of 2.6.30. Driver available in linux-2.6 2.6.26-22, ask me about <security>. For support of these controllers during Debian installation, ask me about <kmuto> and use lenny-custom-0116. |
| 08:35.06 | streuner | something15525: please use /msg dpkg <factoid> instead |
| 08:35.15 | something15525 | streuner: sorry my bad |
| 08:35.29 | something15525 | is atl1c included in the latest squeeze build? |
| 08:35.58 | something15525 | jelly: ? |
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| 08:38.23 | jelly | something15525: yes? |
| 08:38.50 | something15525 | jelly: "jelly: i have been through that process already, got an error during install that is listed as bug #583551, and can't get around it" |
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| 08:39.58 | jelly | something15525: hm, is installing stable out of the question? |
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| 08:40.49 | something15525 | jelly: i hear that squeeze is the best distro option for newer netbooks, and now i'm truly fixed on getting it installed, would you be able to help me through the process? lol |
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| 08:42.12 | jelly | something15525: I wouldn't, it sounds a lot like handholding |
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| 08:42.47 | something15525 | jelly: lol not what i mean't for it to sound like, i'm capable of doing this install, just need some help working through this bgu |
| 08:42.49 | something15525 | bug* |
| 08:43.46 | AmberJ | ,kernels |
| 08:43.49 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 08:44.29 | jelly | something15525: you'd have to wait until a) fixed version of package appears in squeeze and then in the testing debian-installer image |
| 08:45.09 | jelly | something15525: fwiw, debootstrap process is described in the installation guide. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
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| 08:46.00 | AmberJ | !kernel |
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| 08:46.02 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, linux-next: next-20100621, mainline 2.6: 2.6.35-rc3, snapshot 2.6: 2.6.35-rc2-git6, stable 2.6: 2.6.34 , stable 2.6.33: 2.6.33.5 , stable 2.6.32: 2.6.32.15 , stable 2.6.31: 2.6.31.13 , stable 2.6.27: 2.6.27.47 , stable 2.4.37: 2.4.37.9 |
| 08:46.03 | something15525 | jelly: alright, thanks for the help |
| 08:47.54 | Guest31174 | jelly why is debian livecd not usable? |
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| 08:50.50 | removido | Any help would be appreciated. I used sftp to connect to my appletv and try to browse for those two files, and I can't find the exact location. Can you guy please tell me? |
| 08:50.51 | removido | here is the link to 2 source file that I modified. |
| 08:50.51 | removido | 1. libavformat/utils.c -- fix slow rmvb loading problem |
| 08:50.51 | removido | 2. libavformat/rmdec.c -- fix choppy rmvb playback problem. |
| 08:50.51 | removido | http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=146b952a1556ade3391d7d881749d3a71422e1ba 511245a438538f5672f1b9df |
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| 08:51.20 | eni23 | hello at all. does somebody knows how to set up an open relay in postfix? |
| 08:51.29 | eni23 | it's for local use only |
| 08:51.39 | jpinx-eeepc | yea - right ;) |
| 08:51.48 | something15525 | hey jelly, after i get into grml to use debootstrap, how will i access the squeeze install of the web if my card is not supported without installing the drivers |
| 08:52.14 | something15525 | off the web* |
| 08:52.21 | jpinx-eeepc | something15525: go back into #debian-eeepc - SynrG has turned up |
| 08:52.33 | something15525 | jpinx-eeepc: yay! |
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| 08:52.37 | jpinx-eeepc | something15525: he will fix it for sure |
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| 08:53.10 | removido | hello |
| 08:53.24 | removido | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.49 | removido | I try many tings nothing works |
| 08:54.18 | Guest31174 | what debian are you using |
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| 08:55.10 | removido | lenny |
| 08:56.49 | Guest31174 | that sounds like a girls name |
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| 09:00.36 | jelly | !tell Guest31174 about lenny |
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| 09:04.04 | dz2 | where are some up to date instructions for compiling and installing the kernel under lenny? |
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| 09:04.43 | jpinx-eeepc | dz2: just install it with aptitude |
| 09:05.27 | dz2 | why not compile it? |
| 09:05.42 | dz2 | to remove unnecesary stuff? |
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| 09:06.02 | Vroomfondle | not much point unless you're very tight on disk-space |
| 09:06.39 | jpinx-eeepc | you'd only save a few Kbs |
| 09:06.48 | jpinx-eeepc | unless you go without X |
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| 09:07.43 | jelly | dz2: what is the goal you're trying to accomplish by building a custom kernel? |
| 09:08.11 | dz2 | ok so should I just use 2.6.26 |
| 09:08.54 | jpinx-eeepc | what release of debian aare you running? |
| 09:09.37 | dz2 | I thought it would be best to be using the latest kernel and I want to get my wireless card (wg311) working. |
| 09:09.37 | jelly | dz2: if everything works, just keep the distro kernel, yes |
| 09:09.38 | Guest31174 | if you want something that just works why dont you bun too |
| 09:09.44 | dz2 | I just upgraded to lenny |
| 09:09.49 | jelly | !ops Guest31174 well known troll |
| 09:09.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly complains about: Guest31174 well known troll |
| 09:10.05 | Guest31174 | just trying to help |
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| 09:10.48 | themill | thanks, jelly. |
| 09:10.49 | jpinx-eeepc | dz2: and what kernel do you have now? |
| 09:10.52 | macrobat | ty :) |
| 09:10.53 | jelly | dz2: hm. start with /msg dpkg wireless |
| 09:11.29 | dz2 | i can boot with 2.6.18 or 2.6.26 |
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| 09:12.48 | jelly | dz2: if there's a need for newer kernel, there already are builds of 2.6.32 for lenny available, but if the default 2.6.26 works for you, that's the safest option |
| 09:13.06 | themill | !wg311 |
| 09:13.07 | dpkg | The WG311 "54 Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter" is a 802.11g device produced by Netgear. For support of version 1 (PCI-ID 168c:0013), ask me about <ath5k>. For support of version 2 (PCI-ID 104c:9066), ask me about <acx100>. For support of version 3 (PCI-ID 11ab:1faa), ask me about <88w8335>. |
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| 09:17.38 | Arafangion | is annoyed... Feels a compulsion to develop a new, minimalistic linux distribution for no good reason. |
| 09:17.54 | jelly | dz2: so, figure out the pci-id for your card out of "lspci -nn" and follow the good bot's advice |
| 09:19.22 | dz2 | thanks guys |
| 09:19.40 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: Actually, compiling the kernel can save MB's, unless I'm mistaken. |
| 09:19.50 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: (If you put in a lot of work) |
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| 09:20.30 | jpinx-eeepc | Arafangion: tbh I don't know what size my kernel is ;) |
| 09:20.36 | dz2 | that's what I would have thought - it can save memory of you remove support for useless stuff |
| 09:21.01 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: Likewise. :) Memory is the real concern, though, however, modern systems are so insanely fast these days that nobody cares. |
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| 09:21.24 | jpinx-eeepc | faster than I can mis-type ;) |
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| 09:21.49 | dz2 | i have noticed more latency in gnome since my upgrade |
| 09:21.51 | Arafangion | A useful benchmark. :) |
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| 09:22.03 | AmberJ | jpinx-eeepc: hello |
| 09:22.12 | jpinx-eeepc | o/ |
| 09:22.31 | AmberJ | jpinx-eeepc: you remember I was having some problems with my virtualbox yesterday |
| 09:22.51 | AmberJ | When I installed 2.6.32, all is well now. |
| 09:22.52 | dz2 | I think it might be the (bigger) kernel |
| 09:23.02 | AmberJ | So, it was older kernel that was causing the problem |
| 09:23.04 | Arafangion | dz2: Unlikely. |
| 09:23.13 | jpinx-eeepc | AmberJ: cool ) |
| 09:24.17 | macrobat | the 2.6.34 has been out a while, but sid still has 2.6.32 . i think i'll conf and compile a kernel |
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| 09:24.47 | AmberJ | When I was installing 2.6.32, it said me that some firmware drivers are missing: r8169: rtl8168d-2.fw rtl8168d-1.fw ....apt told me that I need to add contrib, non free repos to my sources.list |
| 09:25.06 | AmberJ | But it is not installing nor I can find it using 'apt-cache search' |
| 09:25.26 | AmberJ | And, contrib and nonfree are already added to my sources.list |
| 09:25.29 | Arafangion | is going high on sugar. |
| 09:25.51 | Arafangion | AmberJ: Did you run apt-get update? |
| 09:26.14 | AmberJ | Arafangion: Yes. |
| 09:26.20 | jpinx-eeepc | AmberJ: do you really need that firmware? |
| 09:26.21 | Arafangion | AmberJ: You may be expected to use m-a. |
| 09:26.28 | Arafangion | !tell AmberJ about m-a |
| 09:26.49 | jpinx-eeepc | Arafangion: no - I got that firmware for my external wifi |
| 09:26.55 | macrobat | those pks may have changed |
| 09:27.03 | jpinx-eeepc | it was a download and dokg -i job |
| 09:27.03 | macrobat | *pkgs |
| 09:27.08 | Arafangion | Ahh, well I'll leave it to you two then. |
| 09:28.26 | AmberJ | jpinx-eeepc: these drivers are intended for wifi support?? |
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| 09:34.03 | AL13N | does the apach2 version of lenny (2.2.9) have patches for the multiple SSL certs on a single IP? (supposedly it's supported from 2.2.12), but i thought the updates might have patches to enable it |
| 09:34.35 | AmberJ | nevermind my last reply. I dont need those drivers |
| 09:35.31 | petern_ | multiple SSL certs on a single IP? how is that supposed to work? |
| 09:36.38 | Arafangion | I thought they depended on dns names, not I Paddresses. |
| 09:36.41 | Arafangion | *IP Addresses. |
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| 09:44.05 | petern_ | hmm, i see, SNI... but client support for that is rather patchy |
| 09:44.13 | AL13N | SSL protocol normally only works on IP, because the webserver has no way of knowing which vhost you'd actually want, cause the headers aren't set passed yet. |
| 09:44.25 | Arafangion | Yikes. Google chrome is fast. |
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| 09:44.39 | petern_ | i find it unlikely that that sort of feature would be backported. it is debian *stable* after all |
| 09:44.43 | AL13N | SNI support has a modified protocol of SSL |
| 09:45.03 | AL13N | it still is a usefull one :-) |
| 09:45.31 | petern_ | windows xp is out of luck |
| 09:46.20 | Arafangion | People still use XP. |
| 09:46.28 | petern_ | yup |
| 09:46.37 | jelly | IE doesn't support SNI yet |
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| 09:47.03 | petern_ | IE 7+ on Vista/7 does |
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| 09:47.35 | petern_ | (well, i'm only going by what wikipedia says, so ... pinch of salt may be required) |
| 09:48.04 | jelly | I'm also only going by what some blog linked off lwn said ;-) |
| 09:48.04 | AL13N | IE doesn't support SNI? |
| 09:48.06 | AL13N | hmm |
| 09:48.07 | AL13N | ok then |
| 09:48.14 | AL13N | lotsa people use XP |
| 09:48.21 | AL13N | so i'm gonna have to not use that |
| 09:48.50 | jelly | get yourself buncha IPs like all https machines do |
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| 09:56.52 | AL13N | jelly: well, yeah, but IPs are expensive |
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| 09:58.34 | Arafangion | AL13N: Sucks, doesn't it? :) |
| 09:58.55 | petern_ | expensive? hmm |
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| 10:10.20 | Arafangion | reckons that if an IP address is "expensive", then the business is doing *badly* |
| 10:11.22 | niko | :14 |
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| 10:14.09 | AL13N | Arafangion: not really, some clients will pay for stuff and other won't, they have alot of domains, if they need an IP for each domain name... on top of the SSL certificate... |
| 10:14.41 | AL13N | it also means we'll have to buy a whole new block again |
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| 10:19.12 | kryl | hi |
| 10:19.46 | kryl | ip_set is missing in the origial kernel of lenny, what can I do to add this module ? |
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| 10:20.29 | Janni | Hello. |
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| 10:21.57 | Arafangion | kryl: Why do you care about lenny's original kernel? |
| 10:21.59 | petern_ | kryl, it's in netfilter-extensions-source |
| 10:22.01 | Arafangion | (Upgrade!) |
| 10:22.58 | Janni | I was just wondering, why isn't there a "required-packages" and a "important-packages" package? This would make it easier to have an overview over the installed packages. Because from time to time I check for "~i!~M" to see whether I still need to have them installed. Of course I can do "~i!~M!~prequired!~pimportant" but it's a bit annoying... |
| 10:23.14 | ongolaBoy | hello. what may explain that my machine stuck at "activating swap" ? |
| 10:23.34 | Janni | If we had these two packages, all the required and important packages would have the "M" flag... |
| 10:23.39 | kryl | petern_, and it's the same about tarpit iptables option ? |
| 10:23.59 | jpinx-eeepc | Janni: read about recommends |
| 10:24.14 | petern_ | kryl, possibly, i haven't checked |
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| 10:24.52 | kryl | ok |
| 10:25.06 | pkkm | How to make an user be able to login without password? |
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| 10:25.47 | rozie | pkkm: read about ssh keys |
| 10:26.37 | Janni | jpinx-eeepc: Are you referring to Aptitude::Recommends-Important? If so... Well, I like to have Apt::Install-Recommends off, so it doesn't help... |
| 10:26.43 | pkkm | rozie, I don't want keys, I just want a guest account. |
| 10:27.52 | xdr | if I accidently (with som help of paws) dd:ed sda instead of sdb is it enough to reinstall grub? |
| 10:28.29 | Arafangion | xdr: Along with all the rest of the data you had on that HDD. :) |
| 10:29.04 | xdr | Arafangion: partitiontable etc? |
| 10:29.30 | xdr | Arafangion: (15 MB) copied, 1.86381 |
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| 10:31.00 | Arafangion | xdr: The first half a MB of that would probably be Grub. |
| 10:31.20 | xdr | Arafangion: and then partitions in order? or partitiontable? |
| 10:34.03 | Arafangion | xdr: I'm really guessing here... But perhaps the first couple KB or so at the start of the disk. |
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| 10:36.17 | Arafangion | xdr: You might be able to restore the partition table if you kept a backup. |
| 10:36.52 | AL13N | "Apt::Install-Recommends off" is like a must on headless systems |
| 10:37.09 | AL13N | otherwise installing openssh suddenly gives you X |
| 10:37.13 | AL13N | :-( |
| 10:37.28 | xdr | Arafangion: any tips on how? got a /boot/ swap, / and then a lvm |
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| 10:38.31 | Arafangion | xdr: Fire up fdisk... And enter the numbers exactly as you recall them. (Note: I'm still guessing) |
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| 10:39.41 | AL13N | Arafangion: supposedly, there's a MBR backup somewhere |
| 10:39.48 | AL13N | (MBR also holds partition table) |
| 10:40.00 | liable | no it doesnt |
| 10:40.12 | AL13N | liable: it definately does |
| 10:40.20 | liable | no |
| 10:40.29 | AL13N | the primary partition table is on the first 512 bytes near the end |
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| 10:40.48 | liable | its not in the mbr |
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| 10:40.58 | Arafangion | I'm also pretty sure it's not in the MBR. |
| 10:41.09 | AL13N | the mbr is on the first 512 bytes of a disk |
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| 10:41.35 | AL13N | do a hexedit /dev/sda and look |
| 10:41.43 | AL13N | at the first 512 bytes |
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| 10:41.46 | AL13N | you'll see |
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| 10:42.22 | dz2 | . |
| 10:43.05 | xdr | bah I'm really into killing of a litte furry thing with itchy paws |
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| 10:43.53 | dz2 | !dpkg |
| 10:43.53 | dpkg | i heard dpkg is the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 10:44.51 | dz2 | !dpkgbot |
| 10:44.51 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also ask me about <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
| 10:45.45 | dz2 | !tell dz about dpkgbot |
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| 10:45.50 | nettezzaumana | hi there |
| 10:46.05 | liable | AL13N: i apologise, it is |
| 10:46.25 | nettezzaumana | i have a debian server with *etch and it seems like etch is out ?? like the repos aren't valid or so? |
| 10:46.51 | rudi_s | !tell nettezzaumana about etch |
| 10:46.59 | dz2 | i just upgraded to lenny |
| 10:47.09 | dz2 | it went quite smoothly |
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| 10:48.30 | AL13N | liable: np, i was pretty sure after the manual recoveries that i've done |
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| 10:48.53 | g00se | Is it possible to use two different locales in two different terminals |
| 10:49.41 | rudi_s | g00se: export LANG=.. should work. |
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| 10:50.00 | g00se | rudi_s: Thanks. Shall try |
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| 10:50.09 | rudi_s | np |
| 10:50.32 | Kensan | tarzeau: Hi |
| 10:51.05 | Kensan | tarzeau: are you the admin of ftp.ch.debian.org? |
| 10:51.07 | Arafangion | reckons that an optimised, high-speed version of dpkg-the-bot should be made a regular part of the debian installation. |
| 10:51.12 | nettezzaumana | well, i just only changed a sources.list to use for main repo lenny from etch |
| 10:51.15 | Arafangion | Which reminds me... |
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| 10:51.27 | Arafangion | Is there a version of dpkg's quotes that suit a fortune file? |
| 10:51.42 | nettezzaumana | it wants to upgrade as dependency of package which i want to install `libc6 libc6-i686 libncurses5 locales tzdata` |
| 10:51.59 | nettezzaumana | will etch survive upgrading these packages ^^ |
| 10:52.14 | Kensan | tarzeau: It seems that the host is not up to date wrt. the backports.org mirror. |
| 10:52.56 | xdr | testdisk <3<3<3 |
| 10:53.05 | dz2 | my whole system freezes after I type in my pass phrase for wireless wg311 |
| 10:53.50 | Kensan | tarzeau: it seems the last update happened on 02 may 2010. |
| 10:54.53 | Arafangion | !tell nettezzaumana about etch->lenny |
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| 11:07.09 | kryl | petern_, netfilter-extensions-source < I just find this package, but don't know how to add ip_set module from that ! |
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| 11:09.02 | zamba | i have a strange problem with my linux router |
| 11:09.23 | zamba | when i try to log on remotely i get the following error: "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0" |
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| 11:19.12 | Anonissimus | nope this is a sneaky gentoo channel |
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| 11:19.47 | Anonissimus | SushiMashi: just ask what is bothering you |
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| 11:20.11 | Wooga | where i can get i686-pc-linux-gnu-* compilers for my amd64 squeeze in order to cross-compile for i386? |
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| 11:22.29 | zamba | where should that be mounted from? |
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| 11:23.40 | zamba | i have to issue mount devpts /dev/pts -t devpts manually to get it mounted |
| 11:23.44 | zamba | this bug appeared after upgrading from etch to lenny |
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| 11:35.12 | kryl | ok does anybody know how to install ip_set module for iptable under debian please ? |
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| 11:37.49 | abrotman | bad ipod indeed... |
| 11:38.12 | badipod | :( |
| 11:38.17 | badipod | Sowee. |
| 11:39.11 | JyZyXEL | what do i need to apt-get to be able to run haskell code? |
| 11:39.27 | petern_ | kryl, m-a a-i netfilter-extensions |
| 11:39.31 | badipod | ghc, at the least. |
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| 11:39.53 | xdr | is lvm partitions tables stored inside lvm2 partition? |
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| 11:41.34 | Arafangion | xdr: I think partly. |
| 11:42.34 | JyZyXEL | does haskell need to be compiled or can it be run? |
| 11:42.46 | Arafangion | There are interpreters available. |
| 11:42.50 | badipod | I think it can be either |
| 11:42.51 | xdr | Arafangion: used testdisk to restor the partitiontable, and the lvm seem to work |
| 11:43.06 | xdr | though I haven't tried reboot |
| 11:43.11 | Arafangion | xdr: Thanks... I'm surprised, but that's useful to know. |
| 11:43.14 | JyZyXEL | hugs - A Haskell 98 interpreter |
| 11:43.20 | Arafangion | xdr: Personally, I'd backup before rebooting. :) |
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| 11:44.07 | kryl | petern_, I need more explanation about that. |
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| 11:44.18 | kryl | petern_, I only have : netfilter-extensions-source |
| 11:44.26 | xdr | Arafangion: 250gig? |
| 11:44.37 | kryl | and then ? |
| 11:44.45 | petern_ | it's short for "module-assistant auto-install netfilter-extensions" |
| 11:46.08 | xdr | Arafangion: Arafangion going away tomorrow morning... kinda stressed... |
| 11:46.10 | Arafangion | xdr: Back up your personal work, at the very least, and any keys you have. |
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| 11:46.33 | Arafangion | xdr: Your music and other media will merely be an annoyance. |
| 11:47.20 | xdr | Arafangion: I found a 250 gig usb hdd <3 |
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| 11:48.11 | kryl | petern_, ok I don't know about this command , thank you |
| 11:48.42 | petern_ | it's a debian thing. man module-assistant |
| 11:49.23 | kryl | ok |
| 11:49.46 | xdr | Arafangion: nice backing up everything |
| 11:49.48 | kryl | it seems to be good |
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| 11:54.00 | bricky | hey |
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| 11:54.22 | bricky | can anyone kindly explain what modprobe does ? |
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| 11:55.25 | H2S04 | NAME |
| 11:55.26 | H2S04 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.31 | Arafangion | bricky: It looks at the kernel, and pokes it a bit, probing the modules. |
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| 11:55.35 | zamba | is devfsd or udevd the newest? |
| 11:55.40 | xdr | udevd zamba |
| 11:55.43 | zamba | and what is recommended to use? |
| 11:55.45 | zamba | xdr: ok |
| 11:55.47 | Arafangion | *definetly* udev |
| 11:55.55 | xdr | devfs is static |
| 11:55.58 | zamba | ok, well.. i have an issue here with flashybrid and udevd |
| 11:56.09 | bricky | Arafangion: so it can detect 'all' drivers installed |
| 11:56.18 | fruitwerks | slightly OT - but has anyone used an Atom based CPU? how bad are they for a basic desktop? |
| 11:56.22 | zamba | i'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but it's a layer on top of a compact flash card that prevents writes to the flash card all the time.. |
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| 11:56.33 | xdr | bricky: all compiled modules of current kernel |
| 11:56.35 | zamba | and there seems to be some issues with /dev after upgrading from etch to lenny |
| 11:56.44 | Arafangion | fruitwerks: They're good if you want to be efficient with your electrical consumption. |
| 11:56.50 | bricky | even if I have, say.. 3 drivers installed since I tried to get my wifi card recognized in MANY different ways, but nothing successfull should I remove them?> |
| 11:56.51 | zamba | etch used devfsd and lenny uses udevd, right? |
| 11:57.07 | Arafangion | I think etch used udev. |
| 11:57.08 | djura-san | o/ |
| 11:57.26 | bricky | xdr: suppose none of them work, or is three two too many, ? |
| 11:57.30 | zamba | Arafangion: at the moment i have to mount /dev/pts manually |
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| 11:57.50 | Arafangion | zamba: Something's messed up. |
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| 11:58.23 | gravaera | I'm about to try debian. |
| 11:58.25 | zamba | Arafangion: can you help me figure it out? |
| 11:58.32 | gravaera | Burning it right now. |
| 11:58.52 | gravaera | Used Ubuntu before, and I'm wondering if debian has less bloat. |
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| 12:00.29 | bricky | I typed modprobe bcm(the first 3 letters of my wifi driver) [+tab] and it showed all the options (or drivers?) installed? so im wondering what I could do |
| 12:00.50 | bricky | perhaps remove them all and install a new one from scratch? |
| 12:00.56 | xdr | bricky: no, you must specify the whole module name |
| 12:00.59 | Arafangion | zamba: Sorry, I can't help you right now. |
| 12:01.14 | gravaera | He used tab autocompletion. |
| 12:01.14 | bricky | xdr: it specified that after I hit tab, it listed the modules ? |
| 12:01.24 | xdr | bricky: ok |
| 12:01.27 | bricky | or im badly misunderstanding, lol |
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| 12:01.47 | gravaera | try lsmod and see if your driver is already loaded. |
| 12:01.48 | xdr | bricky: or we arent running same shell |
| 12:01.50 | xdr | lsmod |
| 12:01.57 | gravaera | If not, use insmod and install it. |
| 12:02.16 | bricky | yup thanks |
| 12:02.18 | hid3 | Hello everyone. How do I run the ftpsync script to make stage1 and later stage2 mirroring? |
| 12:02.18 | gravaera | And edit your mod config file to load that mod on startup. |
| 12:02.42 | bricky | its got the same mods modprobe had on there bcm 3510 bcm 203x |
| 12:03.03 | gravaera | Well do those work? |
| 12:03.33 | bricky | I dont think so, although I havnt edited files to load them |
| 12:04.01 | bricky | oh that insmod stuff |
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| 12:04.23 | gravaera | lsmod shows the contents of /proc/modules in formatted prettiness. |
| 12:04.39 | bricky | so ill do insmod bcm 203x? |
| 12:04.40 | gravaera | In other words, it shows which modules are currently loaded into the kernel's address space. |
| 12:04.40 | abrotman | use modprobe, not insmod |
| 12:04.53 | bricky | modprobe -i ? |
| 12:04.55 | gravaera | If lsmod shows your driver, then the dirver is already loaded. |
| 12:05.05 | bricky | okay, great, ill remove them, :) |
| 12:05.14 | bricky | i have installed too many it seems |
| 12:05.27 | bricky | just gets confusing after a certain point, ;) |
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| 12:05.32 | bricky | how would I remove them? |
| 12:05.39 | gravaera | rmmod |
| 12:05.46 | gravaera | But why...? Ah. nvm -_- |
| 12:05.49 | bricky | okay, thanks |
| 12:05.52 | abrotman | MODPROBE |
| 12:05.59 | abrotman | please do not use rmmod or insmiod |
| 12:06.01 | abrotman | insmod |
| 12:06.08 | bricky | abrotman: okay |
| 12:06.13 | bricky | modprobe -r? |
| 12:06.13 | abrotman | bricky: if you do not want drivers to load, blacklist them |
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| 12:06.18 | abrotman | bricky: yes |
| 12:06.28 | bricky | abrotman: how would I black list them, |
| 12:06.37 | abrotman | !tell bricky about blacklist |
| 12:06.38 | bricky | sorry for asking |
| 12:06.49 | bricky | but this is really going to help me out in the future |
| 12:06.55 | gravaera | abrotman: Actually, insmod and rmmod do syscalls. |
| 12:07.00 | bricky | why not use rrmod or insmod? |
| 12:07.05 | abrotman | IIRC, insmod and rmmod have been deprecated for normal module insertion/removal for like five years |
| 12:07.24 | gravaera | Whether or not you use modprobe or insmod or rmmod, you're going to do a trap into the kernel, and all of the wouild call the same procedure. |
| 12:07.35 | gravaera | So the back end code in the kernel is the same. |
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| 12:07.42 | bricky | hehe |
| 12:07.46 | abrotman | so please use modprobe |
| 12:07.47 | bricky | go on.. |
| 12:07.59 | gravaera | The reason they're discouraging insmod and rmmod is that they want to deprecate them. |
| 12:08.11 | gravaera | But if they're on your system still, it's not a crime to use them. |
| 12:08.12 | abrotman | because they don't do things correctly anymore |
| 12:08.15 | abrotman | and they haven't in years |
| 12:08.27 | gravaera | When they phase them out, those two just own't be there. |
| 12:08.32 | Voldenet | o rly? :) |
| 12:08.41 | Voldenet | insmod works fine for me |
| 12:08.43 | gravaera | y rly :) |
| 12:08.47 | gravaera | Exactly. |
| 12:08.50 | gravaera | They do the same thing. |
| 12:08.54 | abrotman | They do NOT |
| 12:09.12 | gravaera | In fact, modprobe simply calls on insmod and rmmod. |
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| 12:09.15 | gravaera | man insmod. |
| 12:09.17 | abrotman | simply? |
| 12:09.21 | ociredeF | hello there everyone |
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| 12:09.31 | abrotman | that's all it does .. so clearly they just renamed the binary ... thanks kernel devs! |
| 12:09.39 | ociredeF | Im having problems trying to install debian lenny on a asus eee pc |
| 12:09.40 | gravaera | Well, is there something complex about it? |
| 12:09.50 | ociredeF | anyone available for some help |
| 12:09.55 | abrotman | apparently you don't know the difference, but you keep saying there is no difference |
| 12:10.09 | abrotman | ociredeF: there is a #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net that is pretty active |
| 12:10.20 | bricky | okay so modprobe is safer? i already used insmod and it didnt qiute work |
| 12:10.23 | abrotman | or you can see if jpinx-eeepc is awake |
| 12:10.34 | bricky | but than again I probably didnt use it properly |
| 12:10.43 | abrotman | because you're NOT supposed to use it |
| 12:10.49 | bricky | well I didnt know that dude |
| 12:10.58 | bricky | I just read as many tutorials as possible |
| 12:11.02 | abrotman | the guy who is telling you to use insmod should know |
| 12:11.08 | bricky | downloaded ndiswrapper and used an inf, nothing |
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| 12:11.22 | simonrvn | man insmod "... Most users will want to use modprobe(8) instead, which is more clever and can handle module dependencies." |
| 12:11.24 | abrotman | bricky: which device is this? |
| 12:11.32 | abrotman | simonrvn: LIES, they're the same! |
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| 12:11.40 | bricky | abrotman: its a broadcom 57xx or somehting along those lines |
| 12:11.53 | zamba | can someone help me with my udevd issues? |
| 12:11.55 | bricky | does not even get detected by my system though |
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| 12:11.57 | abrotman | bricky: lspci -nn | grep -i network |
| 12:12.02 | bricky | k |
| 12:12.10 | simonrvn | man modprobe "...modprobe intelligently adds or removes a module from the Linux kernel: note that for convenience, there is no difference between _ and - ..." |
| 12:12.12 | abrotman | bricky: just show us the whole line for the wifi device |
| 12:12.16 | ociredeF | abrotman: nobody seems to be active in there |
| 12:12.21 | abrotman | ociredeF: on irc.oftc.net? |
| 12:12.26 | bricky | it just goes back to $ |
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| 12:12.42 | abrotman | bricky: is it USB? |
| 12:12.45 | bricky | abrotman, nothing, its built in |
| 12:12.54 | ociredeF | abrotman: yeap |
| 12:12.56 | abrotman | bricky: lspci -nn .. do you see it in that list? |
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| 12:12.59 | bricky | it worked previously on a WUBI install with windows as primary |
| 12:13.03 | abrotman | ociredeF: give it a minute or two |
| 12:13.07 | abrotman | !tell ociredeF about eeepc |
| 12:13.25 | bricky | abrotman: nope went through that step a number of times too I believe |
| 12:13.45 | bricky | downloaded mutiple sysinfo programs |
| 12:13.52 | bricky | sensors |
| 12:13.54 | abrotman | bricky: so your wifi device isn't showing up in the lspci? but it's a PCI device? |
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| 12:14.13 | bricky | abrotman: its not a USB its built in, yes |
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| 12:14.37 | bricky | it is installed correctly as far as I know aswell |
| 12:14.42 | bricky | and its in working order |
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| 12:14.59 | abrotman | bricky: is there another OS on the system? |
| 12:15.03 | bricky | abrotman: I find it very strange also, |
| 12:15.11 | bricky | ;), nope nothing else |
| 12:15.23 | abrotman | bricky: does the normal wired internet work ? |
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| 12:15.29 | bricky | yes |
| 12:15.31 | bricky | thank god |
| 12:15.33 | abrotman | you're using it now? |
| 12:15.36 | bricky | yes sir |
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| 12:15.42 | bricky | :) |
| 12:15.46 | abrotman | can you put the full `lspci -nn` into a pastebin |
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| 12:15.59 | bricky | gladly |
| 12:16.09 | bricky | ill search the url for it |
| 12:16.18 | abrotman | paste.debian.net |
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| 12:17.13 | bricky | ty |
| 12:19.10 | bricky | grr, not finding it :( |
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| 12:19.25 | abrotman | not finding which? the paste.debian.net or hte lspci ? |
| 12:20.06 | bricky | pastebin :) i got one now |
| 12:20.33 | ociredeF | is there a way to trick debian into thinking an usb is actually a cd? |
| 12:20.39 | bricky | http://paste.ubuntu.com/452907/ |
| 12:20.54 | bricky | thats what it says, on my terminal |
| 12:21.11 | bricky | couldnt get a screenshot for you though, |
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| 12:21.24 | zamba | does udev write to disk+ |
| 12:21.30 | zamba | or is it a virtual file system? |
| 12:21.50 | zamba | meaning.. can i safely mount it directly in the file system without having lots of writes to it all the time? |
| 12:21.59 | zamba | (i'm running linux off a compact flash card) |
| 12:22.20 | abrotman | bricky: either you've hit the kill switch on the system, or there is no wifi device on the PCI bus |
| 12:22.55 | bricky | abortman: hm, killswitch? |
| 12:23.09 | bricky | so basicly it broke? |
| 12:23.24 | abrotman | bricky: no, a switch on laptops to turn wifi off/on |
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| 12:23.52 | bricky | I think it broke then, |
| 12:24.00 | bricky | ahh, thats not possible, lol |
| 12:24.13 | bricky | ill try that also though |
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| 12:24.33 | abrotman | bricky: you could also try a livecd of another distro .. are you really sure it's not USB ? |
| 12:24.49 | bricky | abrotman: i took it out to look at it myself |
| 12:24.50 | bricky | :) |
| 12:25.05 | abrotman | did you put it back in correctly? |
| 12:25.08 | bricky | it just doesnt want to recognize now for osme reason |
| 12:25.17 | abrotman | bricky: does the BIOS make a note about it? |
| 12:25.20 | bricky | abrotman: yes it has switches that snap it in place |
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| 12:25.37 | bricky | abrotman: old bios did, after updating theres no longer an option but good call |
| 12:25.45 | bricky | very good call, hehe |
| 12:26.12 | bricky | ill just leave it be, ill remove the remaining drivers and install new ones though |
| 12:26.18 | bricky | after that i dont care :P |
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| 12:26.22 | sefz | hello, i have a theoretical question about PPTP VPN's ... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2372532/VPN_question.JPG ... it's that correct? |
| 12:26.50 | bricky | abrotman: I noticed something |
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| 12:27.14 | bricky | lsmod does not have the bcm 5974 bcm module in it and modprobe does |
| 12:27.30 | bricky | so I must have half way installed it but couldnt get the rest done |
| 12:27.35 | abrotman | that wouldn't stop lspci from seeing it |
| 12:27.39 | bricky | hmm |
| 12:27.41 | bricky | k |
| 12:28.10 | abrotman | lspci looks at the hardware, the pci bus .. lsmod looks at the list of drivers currently installed for that hardware (and other hardware) |
| 12:28.21 | abrotman | bricky: maybe try hwinfo or lshw |
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| 12:30.50 | bricky | abrotman: yup, ls mod does but modprobe does also? |
| 12:30.59 | bricky | lemme see hwinfo results :) |
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| 12:32.06 | abrotman | modprobe loads drivers, it will only tell you if the hardware for that driver doesn't exist |
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| 12:35.40 | bricky | so I cant run any commands like -i and -r with that huh |
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| 12:36.12 | bricky | seriously this thing is not making sense, |
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| 12:37.03 | HMM551 | hi |
| 12:38.10 | bricky | http://paste.ubuntu.com/452914/ |
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| 12:41.34 | bricky | does that mean anything |
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| 12:41.39 | bricky | HMM551: hi |
| 12:41.43 | abrotman | bricky: why are you asking #debian about Ubuntu ? |
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| 12:42.20 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ... i have a small question |
| 12:42.32 | cobra-the-joker | considering that debian uses outdated software |
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| 12:42.42 | cobra-the-joker | can i perform every day task with the somehow outdated software ? |
| 12:42.50 | abrotman | it does not use outdated software |
| 12:42.55 | bleeber | rofl |
| 12:43.00 | cobra-the-joker | abrotman , really !! |
| 12:43.09 | abrotman | cobra-the-joker: works fine here, dozens of systems |
| 12:43.14 | abrotman | and yes, we do real work |
| 12:43.18 | bleeber | cobra-the-joker: who told you that? |
| 12:43.33 | stockholm | works fine here, hundredts of systems. |
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| 12:43.40 | cobra-the-joker | i think its well known about debian that its somhow outdated |
| 12:43.47 | abrotman | somehow? |
| 12:43.54 | abrotman | that's pretty vague |
| 12:43.54 | bleeber | in what circles? |
| 12:44.02 | abrotman | cobra-the-joker: anyways .. what's your real question |
| 12:44.26 | cobra-the-joker | hmmm ...just want to choose a linux distro ..just one :( |
| 12:44.30 | macrobat | some newer versions of apps might have added features... |
| 12:44.49 | abrotman | macrobat: and newer versions might remove features or break others |
| 12:45.18 | bleeber | yeah, its all about stability, not cutting edge |
| 12:45.37 | cobra-the-joker | stability is better than broken features |
| 12:45.47 | macrobat | lenny is good for your "every day tasks" and some weekend tasks too |
| 12:45.52 | cobra-the-joker | i use fedora ..thats why i am talking like that :D |
| 12:46.09 | abrotman | lenny is good everywhere (provided your hardware is supported i suppose) |
| 12:46.47 | cobra-the-joker | abrotman , its supported ... i installed it before |
| 12:46.57 | abrotman | so use it |
| 12:47.15 | cobra-the-joker | not now .... its been like a year |
| 12:47.23 | cobra-the-joker | when 5.0.1 was first released |
| 12:47.26 | cobra-the-joker | i still got the CD |
| 12:47.54 | jelly | cobra-the-joker: what everyday tasks? |
| 12:47.58 | cobra-the-joker | but i removed as i wanted to try KDE 4.* assume |
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| 12:48.04 | mguy | Nothing wrong with Squeeze, that's what I run on my systems |
| 12:48.28 | jelly | I know at least one colleague using Debian stable as their desktop OS |
| 12:48.31 | cobra-the-joker | jelly , PC , development ( c++ , java , web , .. ) , multimedia |
| 12:48.50 | abrotman | mguy: it's still in the process of being broken though |
| 12:51.09 | cobra-the-joker | abrotman , so you use debian stable as your primary OS ? |
| 12:51.39 | abrotman | cobra-the-joker: at work, yes |
| 12:52.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | blow testing for a joke. requires effort to maintain |
| 12:53.09 | jelly | cobra-the-joker: typically one uses stable and perhaps a small selection of newer software on top |
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| 12:53.55 | cobra-the-joker | hmmm ...ok |
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| 12:56.01 | Freelancer | hej |
| 12:56.07 | Freelancer | I would like to configure my debian's network with a WPA2 personnal key |
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| 12:56.57 | Freelancer | I already had a /etc/network/interfaces working on a WEP network |
| 12:57.14 | Freelancer | and I cannot change it to work on WPA2... |
| 12:57.18 | Freelancer | do someone know how to do? |
| 12:57.24 | jelly | !tell cobra-the-joker about backports |
| 12:57.43 | Freelancer | I wanna say I past 3 days on this already |
| 12:58.08 | cobra-the-joker | aha ... so i can install newer software that i need ...thats great ... but that doesnt affect the system ...right ? |
| 12:58.18 | Freelancer | but I don't know what is wrong... I have "wpa-ssid" to choose the essid, and wpa-psk xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx for the key |
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| 13:00.01 | unixp | hey how is the easiest way to install a driver for nvidia 7600gs ? |
| 13:00.11 | unixp | using debian 5.0.4 lenny |
| 13:00.13 | bzed | !nvidia |
| 13:00.13 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Testing users: ask me about <nvidia squeeze>. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 13:00.52 | Freelancer | can somebody help me? |
| 13:01.43 | bolt-work | cobra-the-joker: what do you mean affecting the system? |
| 13:01.43 | bzed | Freelancer: just use wicd or network-manager |
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| 13:02.27 | cobra-the-joker | bolt-work , break stuff |
| 13:02.33 | Freelancer | bzed will this modify etc/network/interfaces? Cause I need my computer to have internet without any GUI |
| 13:03.14 | bolt-work | cobra-the-joker: stuff that's broken in backported packages you install will be broken when you install them |
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| 13:03.38 | cobra-the-joker | bolt-work , ok |
| 13:03.49 | bolt-work | installing backported packages will not break anything by default. but there is no guarantee it wont |
| 13:03.51 | jelly | cobra-the-joker: the ones from backports.org won't break it (much); also, software may be installed independently of the packaging system into directories that that packaging system doesn't touch (/opt, /usr/local) |
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| 13:04.55 | cobra-the-joker | to the install then ...thanx for the info ... sorry for disturbance |
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| 13:06.42 | Freelancer | does anybody know how to configure etc/network/interfaces for WPA2 Personnal? |
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| 13:07.19 | bolt-work | Freelancer: not off the top of my head... but there are many guides on google |
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| 13:08.08 | liable | Freelancer: zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
| 13:08.36 | Freelancer | zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
| 13:08.57 | Freelancer | liable > what should I do with this? |
| 13:09.08 | liable | read it |
| 13:09.59 | Freelancer | liable > sorry I thought it was on IRC :P. I'll see this then |
| 13:09.59 | liable | :) |
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| 13:12.16 | Freelancer | liable > unfortunately, I think I had already seen it on google... |
| 13:12.19 | Freelancer | !pastebin |
| 13:12.20 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>. |
| 13:12.25 | RichiH | so... i need some program that will solve a bin packing problem for me |
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| 13:12.42 | RichiH | as we all know, bin packing is np-hard, so i don't fancy doing it by hand on paper |
| 13:14.05 | Freelancer | liable > I already have this, actually: http://paste.debian.net/78251/ |
| 13:15.14 | liable | Freelancer: that looks good |
| 13:15.49 | liable | why do you have the auto line after? |
| 13:16.06 | liable | not that i think it matters, but i'm not sure |
| 13:16.16 | liable | its usually the first line of the stanza |
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| 13:18.07 | liable | Freelancer: stick that auto line before the rest |
| 13:18.21 | liable | and the allow hotplug line |
| 13:18.38 | Freelancer | liable > trying now |
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| 13:19.51 | liable | from memory i thought the key was usually double quoted too |
| 13:20.05 | Freelancer | liable > and how to re-test it without rebooting (cause it's stupid and inconvenient to reboot)? =) |
| 13:20.06 | liable | but i trust you read the doc |
| 13:20.23 | liable | ifdown/ifup wlan0 |
| 13:20.29 | Freelancer | liable > actually, my WEP key was not in double quote I think |
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| 13:22.51 | bzed | Freelancer: wicd (at least in squeeze) comes with a curses interface, too |
| 13:24.07 | Freelancer | liable > both solutions fail after ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0... and in "iwconfig wlan0", I have "Encryption key: off" :* |
| 13:24.44 | Freelancer | bzed > looking what is wicd :P |
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| 13:24.55 | liable | is your psk in hex or a |
| 13:25.28 | liable | passphrase |
| 13:26.06 | Freelancer | liable > hmmm, it's not in hex |
| 13:26.13 | Freelancer | but it's not a passphrase I think |
| 13:26.22 | Freelancer | it is in the form XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX |
| 13:26.23 | liable | why did you have it xxx-xxx? |
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| 13:26.49 | Freelancer | Okay I thought hex was in the form XX:XX:XX:XX:XX |
| 13:26.52 | Freelancer | so it is in hex :P |
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| 13:27.00 | Freelancer | XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX |
| 13:27.08 | liable | well, ive not seen a passphrase like that before |
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| 13:27.43 | Freelancer | should I specify somewhere it is in hex? or remove the "-" ? |
| 13:28.05 | liable | remove the dashes |
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| 13:29.05 | Freelancer | liable > the same :S |
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| 13:29.53 | liable | it does need to be quoted |
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| 13:30.07 | liable | and why do you have just hex? whats the passphrase |
| 13:30.38 | liable | see /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/wpa-psk.. |
| 13:30.43 | Freelancer | I don't know... my ISP gave this |
| 13:30.56 | liable | oh right |
| 13:31.49 | liable | though that example is for the wpasupp conf file |
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| 13:32.23 | liable | which you could write out and tell interfaces to use |
| 13:32.57 | Freelancer | interesting... but this one uses a passphrase |
| 13:33.49 | liable | you could run wpa_supplicant manually with wpa_cli to see if its errorinng on the passphrase |
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| 13:37.56 | Freelancer | liable > hmmmm... I don't think I know how to do this :S |
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| 13:38.50 | liable | Freelancer: ok, a simpler way is to write a wpa_supplicant.cong and start it with -vvv and see if spews passphrase errors |
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| 13:40.15 | liable | write the conf, then start it with .. wpasupplicant -i wlan0 -c /path/to /conf/file -vvv .. and watch what it says |
| 13:40.45 | Freelancer | ok |
| 13:41.41 | liable | it'll output a lot of irrelevent stuff, and it will cycle if it doesn't associate, so you will need to kill it and read back through the output |
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| 13:42.05 | liable | but a bad passphrase will be pretty evident in the output |
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| 13:43.13 | liable | Freelancer: make sure any other instaces are killed before you run it (could still be running from interfaces) |
| 13:43.22 | Freelancer | okay |
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| 13:45.10 | Freelancer | er.. so I copied the example file, changed the ssid and psk, tried your command |
| 13:45.20 | Freelancer | and got 2 lines in output |
| 13:45.29 | Freelancer | the version of wpa_supplicant, and a copyright line |
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| 13:45.55 | liable | without a return? |
| 13:46.00 | Freelancer | with a return |
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| 13:46.19 | liable | exact command? |
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| 13:47.28 | AmberJ | When I booted my debian box few minutes ago, I can't 'startx' |
| 13:47.34 | Freelancer | I wrote sudo wpasupplicant -i wlan0 -c test.conf -vvv |
| 13:47.43 | roe | AmberJ, install a new kernel? |
| 13:47.56 | AmberJ | I get this when trying to startx: http://devio.us/~amberj/xerror.txt |
| 13:48.16 | AmberJ | roe: yes, installed 2.6.32 last time |
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| 13:48.29 | liable | maybe stick the -vvv at the start, its been a long time since i played with wpasupp manually.. |
| 13:49.22 | AmberJ | roe: Installed the newer kernel for virtualbox...Does neweer kernel messes with my X server too? |
| 13:49.25 | liable | the man page says that too |
| 13:50.18 | liable | Freelancer: my bad, its -ddd |
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| 13:50.40 | Freelancer | liable > okay... cause I was thinking -vvv was showing the version number |
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| 13:52.08 | Freelancer | liable > seems better, but it seems I have another wpa_supplicant working... how to kill it? |
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| 13:52.21 | Freelancer | you said before to do this, and I thought ifdown wlan0 would be enough |
| 13:52.33 | liable | Freelancer: ps ax, search for the pid and use kill -15 <pid> |
| 13:53.04 | WormFood | why would gthumb run ok as root, but segfault when run as a user? |
| 13:53.08 | liable | also make sure you do ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 13:53.13 | WormFood | it makes no fuckin' sense! |
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| 13:54.57 | Freelancer | "unknown command "up"" |
| 13:55.08 | Freelancer | sorry, my mistake |
| 13:55.11 | Freelancer | so it says: |
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| 13:55.29 | sercik | hello! |
| 13:55.31 | Freelancer | it actually cycles |
| 13:55.40 | sercik | debian etch is not available anymore? |
| 13:55.58 | lindi- | sercik: it is, archive.debian.org |
| 13:56.07 | liable | ^c and read back through it Freelancer |
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| 13:56.28 | Freelancer | there are some handshakes, and it's also written "no key has been configured" |
| 13:56.33 | WormFood | sercik, why would etch still be available? |
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| 13:56.41 | sercik | hi lindi- apt-get update doesn't work anymore and i see that the adress in sources.list is not available anymore |
| 13:56.44 | liable | keep reading |
| 13:56.58 | Freelancer | liable > I am not in graphical interface, I don't think I can go back through it :S |
| 13:57.08 | liable | pageup |
| 13:57.18 | WormFood | sercik, update to lenny |
| 13:57.24 | sercik | WormFood, i use debian mipsel and my stb have kernel 2.6.15 |
| 13:57.30 | Freelancer | nothing with pageup ^^^ |
| 13:57.36 | HandyGandy | Bilski watch. |
| 13:57.37 | sercik | i don't use debian on pc |
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| 13:57.53 | sercik | i use debian-mips on stb |
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| 13:57.53 | Freelancer | but it's clearly written "no keys have been configured - skip key clearing" |
| 13:57.55 | liable | shift+pageup? |
| 13:58.12 | sercik | the stable is now lenny? |
| 13:58.19 | liable | yes |
| 13:58.27 | Freelancer | liable > shift pageup works :D |
| 13:58.32 | WormFood | sercik, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Release_history support for etch ended in Feb of this year |
| 13:59.03 | rares | i never use the codenames |
| 13:59.12 | sercik | ok WormFood but two years ago i had no errors from apt-get update and today yes |
| 13:59.23 | liable | haha |
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| 13:59.36 | WormFood | what part of "it is not longer supported" do you not understand? |
| 13:59.42 | liable | sercik: keep up, even debian updates mor often than two years :P |
| 13:59.51 | rares | that's because 2 years is the old release rate |
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| 14:00.06 | rares | sercik check /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:00.17 | sercik | lindi-, |
| 14:00.18 | Freelancer | liable > so it is written that no keys have been configured... do you want me to copy everything in a pastebin? Cause I have to do it manually... but I can look for something in particular if you want |
| 14:00.20 | rares | what's in there |
| 14:00.26 | themill | !topicsmite sercik |
| 14:00.26 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon sercik. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 14:00.44 | sercik | i need to change deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main |
| 14:00.52 | rares | no |
| 14:01.02 | themill | sercik: no, you need to "/msg dpkg etch->lenny" and follow the instructions |
| 14:01.08 | liable | Freelancer: that no keys thing is common, look for the sart when it is saying its associating, sending first handshake |
| 14:01.27 | rares | you need to change ftp.debian.org to ftp.COUNTRYCODE.debian.org |
| 14:01.28 | sercik | i think that lenny is not working on this stb ok?? |
| 14:01.40 | liable | Freelancer: then it should say if the passphrase was wrong or not, by saying sending second handshake or similar |
| 14:01.51 | rares | like COUNTRYCODE=us |
| 14:01.55 | rares | for me |
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| 14:02.21 | rares | though mirrors1.kernel.org is like 5 hops away! |
| 14:02.25 | Freelancer | okay liable: |
| 14:02.42 | Freelancer | removing interface wlan0, then 4waz handshake -> disconnected |
| 14:02.53 | sercik | this is correct in sources.list? : http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists etch main |
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| 14:03.13 | Freelancer | and... (wait :D) |
| 14:03.34 | liable | Freelancer: go right to the start of that bit, which is likely quite a way up, where it says its trying to associate |
| 14:04.14 | liable | with -ddd it outputs a *lot* so you ave to scroll a long way up |
| 14:05.36 | sercik | lindi-, thanks i did it with: deb http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main in sources.list |
| 14:05.40 | sercik | ty very much |
| 14:05.50 | Freelancer | liable > State: ASSOCIATING -> ASSOCIATED |
| 14:06.21 | liable | and after that? |
| 14:06.21 | sercik | you, except lindi-, have the bad attitude to think that people don't do what they are doing.... |
| 14:06.23 | Freelancer | then some lines, saying it is associated (associated to a new BSS) |
| 14:06.30 | Freelancer | "No keys have been ..." |
| 14:06.34 | liable | sending pairwise.. |
| 14:06.41 | liable | or such |
| 14:06.47 | Freelancer | and after 10 lines, "Cancelling scan request" |
| 14:06.51 | liable | be easier if you could paste it |
| 14:07.24 | Freelancer | wait then |
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| 14:12.01 | ociredeF | hey guys I am trying squeeze on a netbook asus eee.... which desktop other than KDE is gonna work alright there? |
| 14:12.11 | ociredeF | I've got 1 GB and I don't want this to go slow |
| 14:12.34 | ksk | i think google is ur friend |
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| 14:12.49 | liable | lxde is not a bad choice for an eee |
| 14:13.07 | liable | even gnome runs on them |
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| 14:13.23 | ksk | dunno about eeepc, but xfce or fluxbox are lighter then kde or gnome |
| 14:13.28 | Freelancer | liable > http://paste.debian.net/78259/ and it's too long, definitively, to copy it manually |
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| 14:13.47 | Freelancer | liable > I would need an internet connection on this computer, but cannot by now |
| 14:13.51 | WormFood | how in the fuck is it that gthumb runs ok as root, but not a as a normal user? |
| 14:14.06 | ociredeF | liable: I have never tried lxde but definitely don't like xfce... |
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| 14:14.14 | WormFood | it is a god damn image viewer! what the fuck are they doing that requires root access? |
| 14:14.14 | Freelancer | but when I'll be at home, I can get it... liable... in like 1 hour |
| 14:14.22 | liable | Freelancer: ok, that wasnt very helpfull :P |
| 14:14.28 | Freelancer | liable > so if you're still here, I can paste it |
| 14:14.38 | liable | ociredeF: lxde is a desktop with openbox as wm |
| 14:14.45 | Freelancer | but I must leave now ^^ |
| 14:14.56 | liable | Freelancer: sorry, hitting the sack soon |
| 14:14.57 | ociredeF | liable: well I should check that |
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| 14:15.04 | ociredeF | cause I don't even know what it means |
| 14:15.05 | Freelancer | liable > no prob |
| 14:15.10 | lostnbronx | hey all, can I ask aquestion about a recent squeeze update? |
| 14:15.18 | Freelancer | I will have something to paste for the next time :D |
| 14:15.22 | Freelancer | thanks for your help ! |
| 14:15.22 | paines | hi |
| 14:15.27 | liable | yw |
| 14:15.30 | Freelancer | bye ;) |
| 14:15.36 | liable | seeya |
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| 14:17.05 | paines | I have a problem with acpi. When pressing fn+f5(e.g. for dimm screen) nothing is triggered. how do I debug something like this ? |
| 14:17.09 | lostnbronx | the same update that came down with the nouvoe (sp?) driver, hosed my graphics -- except i have an ATI Radion card |
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| 14:17.33 | lostnbronx | i've made sure it's using the radion driver, but the problem persists |
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| 14:17.59 | lostnbronx | graphics aren't actualy gone, but tey've slowed way down -- very choppy |
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| 14:18.33 | lostnbronx | and the tty changed fonts on the same updte too |
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| 14:19.18 | kryl | please, how to install the missing file : iptables v1.4.2: Couldn't load target `TARPIT':/lib/xtables/libipt_TARPIT.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 14:19.21 | kryl | I'm under lenny |
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| 14:19.45 | jus_ | hello, i need some help for bind, my site domain is on ovh and the dns server too, i wan't put this dns server on my dedicated server, i can see och bot in my logs :: queries: info: client 192.134.4.180#54363: query: myINaddr.fr IN SOA + |
| 14:19.53 | lostnbronx | and now, sometimes, i can't even access the tty's -- they simply don't come up with Ctrl+Alt+<num> |
| 14:20.16 | axos88 | Hello! Can someone help me configure apache and mod_auth_mysql, i keep getting user not found errors and apache is not even trying to connect to the db engine |
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| 14:24.38 | WormFood | up until last month, gthumb was working fine, and after an update it suddenly quit working. If I run it as another user, it works fine. I have tried deleting thumbnails and gconf settings, and I can't think of anything else to delete. I can not get this god damn thing to work no matter what I do. Anyone have a clue? |
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| 14:25.36 | liable | !any ideas? |
| 14:25.37 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of ground beef, a little vegemite, and 5 or 6 three-legged bunnies. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
| 14:26.01 | liable | sorry, i cant help it, that factoid tickles my funny bone :P |
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| 14:26.13 | the-dude | vegemite-- |
| 14:26.18 | liable | yum |
| 14:26.21 | [Jasper] | hej guys, Im trying to extract an archive |
| 14:26.24 | [Jasper] | having problems though |
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| 14:26.28 | [Jasper] | could it be my tar? |
| 14:26.33 | [Jasper] | it's not reporting anything happening? |
| 14:26.36 | [Jasper] | wrong version maybe? |
| 14:26.49 | WormFood | [Jasper], you're not giving us ANYTHING to go on |
| 14:27.07 | [Jasper] | it also reports nothing |
| 14:27.10 | [Jasper] | it's 10 gb tar |
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| 14:27.15 | [Jasper] | could it be that iut's just VERY VERY slow? |
| 14:27.19 | WormFood | how about a command line for example? |
| 14:27.44 | [Jasper] | tar xvf vzdump-openvz-234-2010_05_25-00_02_34.tar /root/tepm/ |
| 14:28.30 | niklaswe | [Jasper]: tar -xvf file.tar -C /root/temp |
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| 14:29.02 | [Jasper] | ok that works |
| 14:29.04 | [Jasper] | great thanks |
| 14:29.14 | [Jasper] | what's different about that btw? |
| 14:29.47 | WormFood | adding /root/blah at the end tells it to only extract those files out of the archive, I think....or it is treating it as another archive |
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| 14:30.00 | [Jasper] | how can I only exctra one file? |
| 14:30.02 | [Jasper] | if I know where it is? |
| 14:30.11 | AmberJ | I recently updated to linux 2.6.32 and there are major changes to dev starting from 2.6.3 ... kernel uses udev in 2.6.3....Does the error "(EE) No devices detected" (when I startx) relates to this? |
| 14:30.20 | jus_ | ovh ask query but anything else appens |
| 14:30.32 | AmberJ | startx refuses to let me start any WM |
| 14:30.48 | Justin | AmberJ: the entire log would be helpful |
| 14:30.48 | jelly | AmberJ: pastebin the whole /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 14:30.49 | niklaswe | -C in which directory you will put the extracted files |
| 14:31.02 | abrotman | sounds more like an nvidia/ati problem |
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| 14:32.58 | [Jasper] | niklaswe how can I extract a single file? |
| 14:33.18 | nsadmin | [Jasper]: tar does have a man page that describes that |
| 14:33.35 | tbsaunde | hey, did anyone ever figure out the grub-probe can't find root device problem from yesterday? |
| 14:33.40 | [Jasper] | tar -x /data/14030801/www/index.php -f vzdump-openvz-234-2010_05_25-00_02_34.tar -C /root/tepm/ does that work? |
| 14:33.49 | [Jasper] | nsadmin unfortunatelly I need the file quickly |
| 14:34.07 | nsadmin | that -is- unfortunate! |
| 14:34.07 | AmberJ | jelly Justin : /var/log/Xorg.0.log paste: http://devio.us/~amberj/log.txt |
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| 14:34.16 | [Jasper] | would reallyt appreciate just an answer only this time |
| 14:34.24 | [Jasper] | one of the sites got hacked...need to get it back up |
| 14:34.30 | [Jasper] | it's a tar archive of 12 gb |
| 14:34.44 | AmberJ | abrotman: Was your nvidia/ati comment intended for my problem? |
| 14:35.06 | Justin | AmberJ: this is a VM in virtualbox? |
| 14:36.14 | AmberJ | Justin: No. But I upgraded to linux 2.6.32 last time I booted to make virtualbox 3.x to work fine |
| 14:36.23 | abrotman | looks like an intel card, i'd guess posssibly remove the vbox xorg driver |
| 14:36.28 | abrotman | or make sure it's totally up to date |
| 14:36.33 | [Jasper] | thanks for the help nsadmin |
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| 14:36.58 | jelly | AmberJ: get rid of vbox guest additions on real hardware |
| 14:37.02 | nsadmin | the sooner you look the sooner you'll get the info |
| 14:37.19 | WormFood | is aptitude supposed to replace apt-get in every manner, or will I still need to use apt-get for some things? |
| 14:37.24 | [Jasper] | I tried this: tar -xvf vzdump-openvz-234-2010_05_25-00_02_34.tar /data/14030801/www/index.php |
| 14:37.26 | [Jasper] | but didn't work |
| 14:37.29 | [Jasper] | and that is from a manual |
| 14:37.33 | AmberJ | abrotman: yeah..it's an intel card. how do I remove vbox xorg driver? |
| 14:38.16 | AmberJ | jelly: Yeah. that reminds me that vbox guest addition was the last thing I did when I was using X (and virtualbox) last time |
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| 14:38.24 | [Jasper] | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
| 14:38.44 | AmberJ | jelly: Do you mean that I delete vbox guest additions ISO? |
| 14:38.46 | [Jasper] | it says there's no such file |
| 14:39.08 | nsadmin | try removing the leading / |
| 14:39.21 | jelly | AmberJ: no. |
| 14:39.24 | nsadmin | which tar never stores |
| 14:39.30 | [Jasper] | I did nsadmin still nothing |
| 14:39.42 | jordanm | [Jasper]: what are you trying to do there? |
| 14:39.47 | [Jasper] | tar -xvf {vzdump-openvz-234-2010_05_25-00_02_34.tar} {data/14030801/www/index.php} |
| 14:39.48 | [Jasper] | I did that |
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| 14:40.05 | Arafangion | [Jasper]: How on earth did you come up with that syntax? |
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| 14:40.17 | jelly | [Jasper]: take a good look at exact paths that "tar tvf your.tar" lists |
| 14:40.19 | [Jasper] | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-extracting-specific-files/ |
| 14:40.24 | jordanm | [Jasper]: I haven't a clue what you are trying to do with that.. |
| 14:40.48 | AmberJ | jelly: then what did you mean by : "get rid of vbox guest additions on real hardware"? |
| 14:41.04 | AmberJ | I'm sorry but I dont understand what you mean to tell me :( |
| 14:41.32 | [Jasper] | jelly: it lists it like ./etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 14:41.56 | jelly | AmberJ: remove the package that brings xorg drivers for vbox virtual cards |
| 14:42.10 | [Jasper] | with a . in front it also doesn't work jelly |
| 14:42.12 | jelly | [Jasper]: so unpack ./etc/apache2/httpd.conf, then |
| 14:42.13 | nsadmin | the {} should be removed |
| 14:42.44 | jelly | AmberJ: dpkg -S /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vbox* |
| 14:42.47 | nsadmin | -xvf should be xvf |
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| 14:43.44 | jelly | nsadmin: both are valid with GNU tar |
| 14:44.21 | nsadmin | which one is portable? |
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| 14:44.32 | jelly | who cares? |
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| 14:44.57 | Justin | jelly: solaris 2.6 users? |
| 14:45.01 | nsadmin | obviously I do, since I was the one who asked :) |
| 14:45.13 | jelly | Justin: exactly. |
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| 14:45.43 | jelly | Justin: I just got rid of third-last solaris machine, just two to go |
| 14:46.29 | jelly | nsadmin: absence of - is traditional |
| 14:46.53 | nsadmin | oh ok, so I did get the portable one :) |
| 14:47.47 | nsadmin | so some tars won't accept -x etc? |
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| 14:48.11 | AmberJ | jelly: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vbox* is a link to /usr/lib/VBoxGuestAdditions/vboxvideo_drv_14.so |
| 14:48.48 | AmberJ | jelly: dpkg says not found ...since the file in that dir is a link |
| 14:48.58 | jelly | AmberJ: so find out which package that linked file is contained in |
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| 14:49.09 | jelly | or just delete the link and hope for the best |
| 14:49.28 | AmberJ | let me try deleting the link ... |
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| 14:50.12 | jelly | you really ought to delete the package if possible, it's likely its upgrade will regenerate the symlink |
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| 14:50.40 | Janos | hey there, anyone knows how to prevent a package from installing, how can i tell apt, never install this no matter what |
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| 14:51.12 | Janos | you see i hate the bug that automatically pulls all the gcj stuff when i don't actually need it :P |
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| 14:51.32 | [Jasper] | guys is there any way I can find out how a file was tempered with |
| 14:51.34 | [Jasper] | on a server? |
| 14:52.09 | Justin | [Jasper]: based on the fact that you mentioned an index.php, I'd say shoddy php coding is to blame |
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| 14:52.35 | nkuttler | Janos: mtime + access logs is a good start. not so much for php though |
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| 14:52.46 | nkuttler | [Jasper]: ^^ |
| 14:53.28 | [Jasper] | Justin soddy php coding can lead to a total overwrite of index.php right? |
| 14:53.38 | [Jasper] | #d4rk it said as hacker |
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| 14:54.11 | bleeber | crappy php can lead to an entire server comprimise |
| 14:54.32 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... i installed debian 5.0.1 ...but seems like the gnome desktop isnt complete ... no network manager ( logged in with dhcpclient ) ..how can i get that |
| 14:54.33 | bleeber | php code* that is |
| 14:54.36 | [Jasper] | bleeber I run apache with fastcgi and suexec |
| 14:54.41 | Justin | cobra-the-joker: install it |
| 14:55.03 | jelly | Janos: using --without-recommends option for aptitude may result in less collateral package installations |
| 14:55.03 | bleeber | [Jasper]: well then probably only the user that owns the files then |
| 14:55.11 | bleeber | but yes |
| 14:55.16 | AmberJ | jelly: tried deleting the link and then rebooted. The boot msg scrollback said something about vbox guest driver being not found (because i deleted that link) |
| 14:55.21 | cobra-the-joker | Justin , but i cant find it ...only gnome-network-admin found in "aptitude search network" |
| 14:55.25 | bleeber | suexec isnt going to save you from crap code |
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| 14:55.36 | AmberJ | jelly: Should I try to find and delete the package now? |
| 14:55.42 | [Jasper] | bleeber I know but they aren't gonna compromise the complete server right? |
| 14:56.17 | Justin | cobra-the-joker: does your sources.list not have the appropriate http sources? |
| 14:56.18 | bleeber | [Jasper]: really depends. If they couple it with a user escallation then it would |
| 14:56.20 | jelly | AmberJ: it seems you installed vbox guest additions on a real machine. Figure out how you installed them, and remove them. |
| 14:56.27 | AmberJ | jelly: startx said that vbox video driver was not found...Then it says that "no devices found"... |
| 14:56.31 | cobra-the-joker | Justin , i dont know ... i just installed it |
| 14:56.31 | jelly | AmberJ: there's a #vbox channel |
| 14:56.36 | [Jasper] | is that possible bleeber with suexec? |
| 14:56.45 | bleeber | [Jasper]: yes |
| 14:56.50 | [Jasper] | only 1 out of 50 websites was affeced |
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| 14:57.05 | [Jasper] | where index.php was completely emptied and replaced by this site was hacked by mr d4rk or somtehing like that |
| 14:57.17 | AmberJ | jelly: I manually downloaded vbox guest additions and put them in /usr/share/virtualbox/ and /usr/lib/virtualbox/additions/ |
| 14:57.21 | bleeber | [Jasper]: it was likely just that site |
| 14:57.33 | bleeber | [Jasper]: as it was likely automated |
| 14:57.36 | AmberJ | Should I delete the ISO files manually then? jelly |
| 14:57.46 | [Jasper] | yes probably bleeber...but how am I gonna tell a customer to fix their site ? :P |
| 14:58.00 | bleeber | [Jasper]: just restore from backups and ensure that your code is up to date |
| 14:58.16 | bleeber | [Jasper]: Is your customer using something like Joomla? |
| 14:58.34 | [Jasper] | bleeber I have daily backups so that's no issue..let me check their code |
| 14:58.57 | bleeber | [Jasper]: there have been over 100 lfi exploits for Joomla this year alone |
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| 14:59.53 | [Jasper] | smarty bleeber |
| 14:59.57 | bleeber | [Jasper]: grep through your access logs and look for strings like ../../../ |
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| 15:00.37 | bleeber | [Jasper]: or environ |
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| 15:01.17 | jelly | AmberJ: iso images of additions are not the problem. Installed additions are. |
| 15:01.30 | hid3 | Good afternoon. Could anyone please check & verify if my new DEBIAN mirror is working properly via the rsync protocol? The IP address is 193.219.80.27 |
| 15:02.00 | bleeber | [Jasper]: what you need to explain to your client is that your hosting environment is setup properly but poor php code will break even teh securest of servers |
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| 15:03.00 | AmberJ | jelly: Oh. yeah I vaguely remember messing with vbox guest additions on real machine...let me try to remember and I'll also try at #vbox |
| 15:03.11 | AmberJ | jelly: thank you very much for your help |
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| 15:05.03 | AmberJ | is out now dinner...bbl |
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| 15:08.45 | Janos | jelly, thanks a lot, just what i needed |
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| 15:12.38 | EduardeCalibal | Hi. |
| 15:12.52 | EduardeCalibal | Someone use webcam and kopete? |
| 15:13.31 | EduardeCalibal | I have the cam inside configurations but dont have a option to start a video chat... |
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| 15:23.08 | kryl | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169 |
| 15:23.09 | [Jasper] | bleeber I send the customer an email telling him/her to get a webdesigner to take a look at the code and to make regular backups |
| 15:23.15 | [Jasper] | because that they also didn't do.. |
| 15:23.32 | [Jasper] | they didn't have a single backup of the website |
| 15:23.37 | kryl | what's wrong with this firmware ? |
| 15:23.38 | kryl | :) |
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| 15:27.14 | cahoot | kryl: not found? |
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| 15:29.37 | EduardeCalibal | Someone know a way to have a fake webcam for test purposes? |
| 15:29.52 | EduardeCalibal | To have a static image or a video... |
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| 15:31.44 | craigevil | !tell kryl about rtl8168d |
| 15:32.20 | kryl | nothing's coming :-( |
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| 15:32.48 | jpinx-eeepc | !netgear |
| 15:32.48 | dpkg | Netgear is a network equipment manufacturer. To determine the chipset in a Netgear wireless LAN adapter, ask me about <what's my wireless>. Have a Netgear WGR614vX or WGR624vX router? You probably have a security hole. To fix, turn off Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI) in firewall settings. Further, connecting to freenode/OFTC on port 8001 instead of 6667 will prevent disconnections, see http://tinyurl.com/faxo7 for details. |
| 15:33.06 | timothy | I updated the squeeze and I cannot get in X - what should I do - I have no KDE or GNOME |
| 15:33.57 | jelly | !rtl8168d |
| 15:33.57 | dpkg | [rtl8168d] the RealTek RTL8168D Ethernet controller, supported by <r8169> since Linux 2.6.31. v1 is supported in linux-2.6 2.6.26-21, ask me about <5.0.4>. As of linux-2.6 2.6.32~rc8-1~experimental.1, firmware for v1 and v2 was removed; not packaged due to no clear redistribution permission (BTS #561309, #564628). Both versions can operate without userspace firmware as of linux-2.6 2.6.32-3, see also http://bugs.debian.org/564010#17 |
| 15:34.54 | WormFood | this fuckin' shit is driving me crazy! last month, some update broke gthumb, and now it segfaults on me. If I run it as another user, it works fine. I have done a backtrace and looked at the source code, and nothing is obviously broken to me. I have deleted my gconf settings for gthumb....I don't know where else to look. Anyone have a clue? |
| 15:35.41 | EduardeCalibal | Have a secret file in some place line /home/user/. |
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| 15:35.50 | EduardeCalibal | like... |
| 15:36.17 | lindi- | WormFood: sudo apt-get build-dep gthumb; DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS='nostrip debug noopt' fakeroot apt-get --build source gthumb |
| 15:36.46 | craigevil | WormFood: none of the bugs on the BTS apply to your problem? |
| 15:36.50 | WormFood | I've already installed the debug version of gthumb |
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| 15:36.59 | WormFood | no craigevil, it appears that nothing addresses my problem |
| 15:37.06 | lindi- | WormFood: then run it under gdb and publish the output of "thread apply all bt full" and "info registers" when it crashes |
| 15:37.27 | lindi- | WormFood: how did you install the debug version? |
| 15:37.43 | WormFood | aptitude install gthumb-dbg |
| 15:38.22 | lindi- | WormFood: that'll still give you optimizied executables, you want to disable optimization |
| 15:38.49 | WormFood | I just want it to work. I know it is some shit it is looking for, I don't know what it is looking for, so I can delete it. |
| 15:40.12 | WormFood | I've been fighting with this shit for weeks. I'm extremely pissed off. I just want the god damn thing to work right. |
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| 15:42.20 | Digit | hi all |
| 15:42.26 | Digit | lol... |
| 15:42.29 | Digit | many users |
| 15:42.45 | WormFood | less than 990 users |
| 15:42.57 | Digit | oh :o |
| 15:43.16 | craigevil | WormFood: i assume you have already tried aptitude purge gthumb && aptitude purge ~c then reinstalled |
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| 15:44.58 | WormFood | what is ~c? I did uninstall it, and reinstall it. I don't remember if I did a "purge", I want to say I did, but I'm not 100% sure. |
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| 15:45.54 | craigevil | ~c removes any unneeded config files |
| 15:46.28 | WormFood | this is fuckin' WEIRD!....while doing an ltrace (and sending the output to a file), NOW the error message changes, to "Unique-DBus-WARNING **: Error while sending message: Did not receive a reply....blah blah blah" |
| 15:46.47 | WormFood | I didn't change any dbus settings |
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| 15:51.01 | WormFood | what the fuck? "aptitude purge ~c" wants to uninstall 110 packages! |
| 15:51.23 | tau | hey, i am trying to use the finch client instant msg to connect at msn server, but it doesn't have worked. how can I use it ? when i use amsn it works fine same in this machiine. |
| 15:52.04 | WormFood | tau, did you try #pidgin (I think that is the suitable channel) |
| 15:52.14 | tau | WormFood: oh, sure, thank you. |
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| 15:52.46 | WormFood | craigevil, what is the deal with ~c wanting to remove 110 packages? |
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| 15:53.17 | craigevil | WormFood: sorry i tend to forget about that, it will remove any packages marked autoremoveable |
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| 15:54.01 | WormFood | it is trying to remove all of gnome, and a ton of other shit it shouldn't remove |
| 15:54.33 | WormFood | but this is not system data that is the problem, it is something in my user directory. |
| 15:54.40 | craigevil | WormFood: http://linuxcentral.wordpress.com/tag/aptitude/ |
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| 15:57.26 | WormFood | thanks craigevil...I didn't do the ~c bit, but I did purge it....I guess I didn't purge it before....and now it works |
| 15:57.46 | xushi | hi all. I have a clean new install and running apt-get to update it works. but I keep getting the following and was wondering if there's something i'm missing? Not sure what it means.. |
| 15:57.47 | xushi | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 15:57.47 | xushi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.48 | WormFood | with fucked up problems like this, it feels like I'm on windows. |
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| 15:58.23 | valdyn | xushi: on which debian release? |
| 15:58.46 | WormFood | why are you not running aptitude instead of apt-get? |
| 15:58.52 | valdyn | WormFood: maybe you should start by learning how aptitude works |
| 15:59.06 | xushi | valdyn: the latest stable. Not sure how I can find out... Linux debian 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Wed May 12 18:03:14 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 15:59.14 | karlpinc | WormFood: I found a whole lot of ~c packages leftover that are not needed after upgrading to Lenny. Have you purged since then? |
| 15:59.15 | xushi | WormFood: because i'm new to debian.. still learning :) |
| 15:59.25 | valdyn | xushi: go see what "apt-get dist-upgrade" would do |
| 15:59.41 | WormFood | karlpinc, I'm running squeeze |
| 15:59.43 | jelly | xushi: those two package had their dependencies changes. Thus, an "aptitude safe-upgrade" or "apt-get upgrade" won't pull them in |
| 15:59.57 | xushi | oh i get it now |
| 16:00.26 | xushi | and yes the dist-upgrade looks like it's doing the trick too |
| 16:00.31 | jelly | xushi: you will have to use a full-upgrade. If you only have standard lenny (debian 5.0) repositories enables, it ought to work |
| 16:00.38 | valdyn | xushi: aptitude is better except when it fails, and in that case its harder to understand than apt-get |
| 16:00.59 | Freelancer | liable > are u still here ? |
| 16:01.03 | WormFood | and in some instances, apt-get is better |
| 16:01.07 | valdyn | xushi: ....which is why even people knowing both tools perfectly well might prefer apt-get |
| 16:01.08 | WormFood | but rarely |
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| 16:01.37 | xushi | that's great.. thanks both for the help. Very kind of you with such easy questions :) |
| 16:01.47 | xushi | + 3rd |
| 16:02.15 | WormFood | ä¸ç¨è°¢ |
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| 16:03.23 | ociredeF | hey there |
| 16:03.26 | ociredeF | anybody at home? |
| 16:03.41 | jelly | nope |
| 16:03.42 | WormFood | ociredeF, is that a trick question? |
| 16:03.48 | ociredeF | I just installed debian squeeze on my netbook and I am having the worst problem ever |
| 16:03.58 | ociredeF | I cannot "become" root |
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| 16:04.08 | macrobat | passwd root |
| 16:04.11 | ociredeF | sudo root, sudo -s, nothing works |
| 16:04.24 | WormFood | ociredeF, try "su -" |
| 16:04.31 | jelly | ociredeF: can you not log in as root, or use su? |
| 16:04.51 | jelly | "sudo root" is not a valid syntax |
| 16:04.56 | ociredeF | su - did the trick |
| 16:04.59 | ociredeF | thanks |
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| 16:05.18 | WormFood | this is not ubuntu...you don't have to "sudo" everything |
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| 16:05.38 | WormFood | and as jelly said, your syntax for "sudo" is totally wrong |
| 16:05.55 | ociredeF | ok thanks |
| 16:05.58 | jelly | I did not say totally wrong. The other quoted command is legit |
| 16:06.29 | jelly | but there's an assumption of correctly configured sudo, which is not necessarily true on Debian |
| 16:07.04 | ociredeF | now I am trying to get get firefox but when I go "apt-get install ...." I get this "W: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg blabla |
| 16:07.08 | ociredeF | whats up with that? |
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| 16:07.22 | WormFood | I never use sudo...I just use "su -c" when I need something similar to sudo |
| 16:07.35 | WormFood | ociredeF, are you doing that as root? |
| 16:07.46 | ociredeF | yes |
| 16:08.11 | craigevil | ociredeF: check that you dont have another instance of apt-get or synaptic running |
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| 16:08.17 | WormFood | is there another apt-get instance running? |
| 16:08.18 | ociredeF | also says (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 16:08.42 | ociredeF | craigevil: cool |
| 16:08.53 | WormFood | ps ax|grep apt-get |
| 16:09.03 | WormFood | ps ax|grep aptitude |
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| 16:09.20 | ociredeF | that was it |
| 16:09.20 | qq- | !tell ociredeF about why aptitude |
| 16:10.25 | craigevil | ociredeF: btw firefox is called iceweasel in Debian |
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| 16:12.48 | ociredeF | (01:10:04 PM) craigevil: ociredeF: btw firefox is called iceweasel in Debian... that's a joke right? |
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| 16:13.12 | qq- | no |
| 16:13.23 | jelly | !why iceweasel |
| 16:13.24 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
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| 16:16.40 | wad | I catted a binary file, and now my console is gibberish. Is this recoverable without exiting the console? |
| 16:17.09 | Freelancer | Does somebody know how to modify /etc/network/interfaces to make it work with WPA2 Personnal? It already worked with a WEP system... |
| 16:17.10 | valdyn | wad: type reset<enter> |
| 16:17.12 | jelly | wad: reset command may help |
| 16:17.36 | wad | That didn't work.... any other ideas? |
| 16:17.48 | wad | Oh wait, this is CentOS.... |
| 16:17.58 | wad | (oops, ssh'ed into another box) |
| 16:18.03 | jelly | Freelancer: I use my interfaces merely to point to the correct wpa_supplicant.conf file |
| 16:19.18 | jelly | Freelancer: have you read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz ? |
| 16:21.18 | sepult | wtf, why is the sourceforge links redirect to netcologne ? |
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| 16:22.26 | Digit | ? sourceforge.net is good |
| 16:22.35 | jelly | sepult: mirror mirror on the wall |
| 16:22.39 | sepult | ah fuck it's js failing in konqueror again, thats why i don't see the download or direct link |
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| 16:25.22 | Pudgy | Hi all, is there a way to focus "master" in awesome with one keystroke? (like xmonad's mod-M) |
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| 16:30.00 | Freelancer | jelly, I did, but was not able to make mine work :( |
| 16:30.13 | Freelancer | but I'm now trying wicd |
| 16:31.07 | jelly | Freelancer: ah. I first worked directly with wpa_supplicant, and after it was made to work I used that conf file |
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| 16:34.27 | ociredeF | so does iceweasel actually supports firefox's plugins? |
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| 16:35.50 | jelly | ociredeF: it's just a rebranding. |
| 16:35.54 | ociredeF | ok |
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| 16:37.23 | jelly | nothing is stopping you from installing Mozilla's Firefox in your home or /opt or somewhere; if you keep the files owned by your user, even mozilla's automatic, delta updates will work |
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| 16:37.39 | jelly | keeps real Firefox in /opt/firefox |
| 16:37.46 | RichardG | power failure |
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| 16:38.30 | RichardG | wrong channel |
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| 16:41.05 | craigevil | i just keep Firefox in my /home, download, extract, create a desktop shortcut and you are good to go |
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| 16:48.51 | Intensity | Hi. I'm wondering if there is a tool that I can run in the background which will keep track of which incoming and outgoing network ports (paired with which remote hosts) are used on my system for typical application usage, over the course of several days. I want to use this to form a more restrictive firewall. In theory I could use tcpdump but that would collect far too much data (more than one data point for a given port |
| 16:48.51 | Intensity | combination). |
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| 16:53.36 | jmarsden | Intensity: There are several choices. Have a look at ntop or argus for example |
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| 16:56.54 | Intensity | jmarsden: Thanks for the suggestions. Let me review those now for a moment. |
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| 17:03.29 | mic_p | Hi all. I'm trying to create my first, simple, .deb package but I'm shipwreck inside the debian doc. Someone as a link/tar.gz where I can do a simple dpkg-buildpackage and learn how modify the control/all the other files? Thanks |
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| 17:05.24 | themill | mic_p: go to packages.debian.org and follow the links to the source package for some package that's small and easy enough to start to understand. |
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| 17:06.47 | themill | mic_p: (alternatively, put a deb-src line in your sources.list and apt-get source packagename. /msg dpkg deb-src) |
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| 17:07.31 | rgr | Just ran up a game in Wine for the first time in a while - it used to function perfectly (Unreal). Now there is a mouse "bias" - the mouse constantly moves to the left with no movement from myself. Any ides how to solve this? |
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| 17:12.34 | poisonbit | can debian purge old kernels and related packages (i.e. modules, headers, etc) from configuration ? |
| 17:12.47 | poisonbit | or do I need a cron task like this I've write: http://paste.debian.net/78279/plain/78279 |
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| 17:27.22 | mbertens | hi all, i what to compile udev 1.51 but it requires usbutils >= 0.82 but on my system is 0.73-10lenny1, but there are dependencies, before i f*ck up my system, first ask if i can update this some how ? |
| 17:28.38 | fruitwerks | muhahahah |
| 17:28.55 | fruitwerks | this is why debian is not my workstation os lol |
| 17:29.03 | jordanm | mbertens: well, you are not track to toasting a system. why do you want to upgrade udev? |
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| 17:29.34 | jordanm | s/not/on/ |
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| 17:29.48 | mbertens | jordanm: because i need it for an image that i setup that is not based on debian |
| 17:30.12 | jordanm | mbertens: so you are compiling for a different system? |
| 17:30.20 | mbertens | yes |
| 17:30.31 | mbertens | not for my workstation |
| 17:30.39 | jordanm | mbertens: I would suggest making a sid chroot with debootstrap and compile from the chroot |
| 17:31.04 | jordanm | ,versions usbutils |
| 17:31.06 | judd | usbutils -- etch: 0.72-7; lenny: 0.73-10lenny1; squeeze: 0.87-3; sid: 0.87-4 |
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| 17:33.49 | mbertens | jordanm: can you guide me through this progress, i'm just starting with linux (about 4 months) so my experience is not at this level yet |
| 17:34.54 | mbertens | i'm a coreboot developer for my Nokia IP530 machine, and i just want linux to run on it :-) |
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| 17:36.06 | jordanm | !debootstrap |
| 17:36.06 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 17:36.12 | jordanm | mbertens: check out the wiki article |
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| 17:42.43 | kryl | how to install tarpit support to netfilter for lenny distrib please ? |
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| 17:43.27 | sidh | Greetings |
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| 17:45.38 | ampex | is etch now so old that the repos don't carry it anymore? |
| 17:46.27 | jordanm | ampex: announced over the weekend, yes |
| 17:46.45 | jordanm | multiple warnings have been going out about it over the past few months |
| 17:47.16 | mbertens | jordanm: i this line: "echo "proc /sid-root/proc proc defaults 0 0" >> /etc/fstab" it seems to me that the lenny fstab is altered is that correct ? |
| 17:47.54 | ampex | jordanm: fair enough, thanks |
| 17:48.08 | jordanm | mbertens: you only need that part if you are actually installing the chroot |
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| 17:48.23 | jordanm | mbertens: in your case, you need to mount dev and proc, but do not need it added to fstab |
| 17:49.04 | mbertens | ok |
| 17:49.28 | sidh | I have a problem at boot, the squeeze debian makes a very long time to boot because of error :"ata2.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen" and "ata2.01: status: { DRDY }" , after 3 attempts with this error message, it finally boots, google tells me it's related with SMART hdd capabilities , and the fact my MB is ten years old |
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| 17:50.34 | sidh | do you have any idea to skip those attempts and make squeeze boots quicker, it is a HTPC box that need to quick boot |
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| 17:50.52 | jelly-home | sidh: try an older kernel. Or a newer kernel. |
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| 17:53.07 | sidh | jelly-home: it is a brand new install 2.6.32-5-686 kernel |
| 17:54.28 | mbertens | jordanm: when do "init q" i get "init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl" what i'm doing wrong ? |
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| 17:55.26 | jordanm | mbertens: you can ignore that to. If you are on that step, your environment should be ready. Install the tools you need in the chroot and build |
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| 17:55.34 | isfranc | hello |
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| 17:55.54 | mbertens | aa ok, i will try so then |
| 17:55.57 | mbertens | thanks |
| 17:56.04 | jordanm | mbertens: although, if I had to guess, I would say /dev/ is not mounted in the chroot |
| 17:56.49 | mbertens | thats correct no sdxx devices |
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| 17:57.44 | jordanm | mbertens: from outside the chroot: mount -o bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev |
| 17:59.58 | mbertens | jordanm: thanks now i have my home dit mounted too |
| 18:00.15 | mbertens | i was wondering how to do that :-) |
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| 18:01.40 | jordanm | does anyone know of a utility that can send the contents of a mbox file as individual emails to a specified address? (batch mode) |
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| 18:04.19 | ksoviero | I am using debian testing, does anyone know when openoffice 3.2.1 will drop? |
| 18:04.19 | nsadmin | mbox file can be fed to formail which is part of procmail |
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| 18:04.34 | nsadmin | formail is like a foreach |
| 18:04.46 | maix | I have an update-manager icon in the notification area saying there is one update available, however there is none. It does not go away with aptitude update / safe-upgrade. using lenny with testing included in sources.list but pinned to -1. |
| 18:04.56 | jordanm | nsadmin: thanks, I will have a look |
| 18:05.41 | mbertens | i have another queistion: i'm running lenny on my workstation, will it upgrade automatically to sid ? |
| 18:05.56 | jordanm | ksoviero: its in testing security now |
| 18:05.56 | AimHere | No |
| 18:06.10 | jordanm | !tell mbertens about sid |
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| 18:06.50 | AimHere | If you really want to change to sid you have to explicitly want it enough to change your sources.list accordingly and then do a dist-upgrade |
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| 18:06.54 | jordanm | mbertens: I believe you mean "squeeze" which is the next release. It will if you /etc/apt/sources.list say "stable" (not recommened) instead of "lenny" |
| 18:07.10 | jelly-home | sidh: yes. try a different one if the current is broken with your ata controller/hdd |
| 18:07.12 | jpinx-eeepc | mbertens: for your sake I hope not - if you are asking that sort of question ;) |
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| 18:07.15 | ksoviero | jordanm, please explain? I have all the repos enabled for testing, and dont have oo 3.2.1? |
| 18:07.27 | jordanm | !testing-security |
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| 18:07.47 | jordanm | !testing security |
| 18:07.47 | dpkg | NOTE: there will be no testing security support for some time. Put "deb http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Regularly update your APT index and upgrade (e.g. # aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade) to keep up-to-date on security updates in Squeeze. Keep up to date by reading <d-d-a>. Also ask about <d-s-a>, <apt-listchanges>. |
| 18:07.56 | jordanm | ,versions openoffice.org |
| 18:07.57 | judd | openoffice.org -- etch: 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch9; etch-security: 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch9; etch-backports: 1:2.4.1-12~bpo40+1; lenny: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny3; lenny-security: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny7; squeeze-security: 1:3.1.1-15+squeeze1; squeeze: 1:3.2.0-9; lenny-backports: 1:3.2.0-11~bpo50+1; sid: 1:3.2.1-3 |
| 18:08.13 | jelly-home | sidh: this would include a selfbuilt newest vanilla kernel for example |
| 18:08.21 | ksoviero | jordanm, now i am officially confused, not simply confused, but officially |
| 18:08.42 | brandon_ | How would I downgrade a recently updated package? the 'v' option in aptitude *never* shows more than one version available... |
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| 18:08.46 | jpinx-eeepc | ksoviero: then stick to lenny for now :) |
| 18:09.07 | jpinx-eeepc | !downgrade |
| 18:09.07 | dpkg | [downgrade] Downgrading is not possible with apt-get/aptitude and no future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 18:09.18 | jpinx-eeepc | brandon_: âââ |
| 18:09.23 | jordanm | brandon_: use dpkg on the .deb still in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 18:09.29 | ksoviero | well, i am using testing/squeeze already, but is its in testing-security, wouldnt i have it, unless testing security is something else? |
| 18:10.13 | jordanm | ksoviero: you have to explicitly have the testing security repo as shown in the factoid |
| 18:10.26 | mbertens | jordanm: yes i meant sqeeze, i don't know what the next release is, i just take the stable one, but i don't like to re-setup my system to go to the next release, that should be done automatically :-) |
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| 18:11.12 | ksoviero | jordanm, is there a page on the wiki about "testing-security" so i can set that up? also, is it safe? |
| 18:11.17 | brandon_ | jordanm: how strange that the issue I'm having is with Cups, and the only packages listed are cups-related ;-P |
| 18:11.34 | brandon_ | jordanm: oh hah, it's a local page... |
| 18:11.35 | jordanm | mbertens: there are some pretty major transitions going into the next release... |
| 18:11.58 | jordanm | brandon_: yes, thats a directory on your filesystem |
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| 18:12.25 | brandon_ | jordanm: unfortunately, I accidentally literally) cleared my downloaded packaged about 5 minutes ago... |
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| 18:13.57 | brandon_ | jordanm: what could I do in that case? |
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| 18:14.21 | jack__ | Radeon X700 Pro, does it work in debian? |
| 18:14.35 | jack__ | chip: RV410 |
| 18:14.44 | jelly-home | jack__: it ought to, that's old enough |
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| 18:15.02 | jack__ | jelly-home: with os drivers? |
| 18:15.07 | jelly-home | yes |
| 18:15.46 | jelly-home | jack__: you can check if you have a pci-id (lspci -nn, that xxxx:xxxx hex number) |
| 18:16.17 | jordanm | brandon_: it depends on what kind of upgrade. if you are on testing/sid, you most likely need to get it from the snapshots website, otherwise, just specify the release for the older version |
| 18:16.20 | jack__ | can't find the card here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-radeonhd/plain/README |
| 18:16.45 | jelly-home | jack__: wrong driver -- video-radeon's your open source friend |
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| 18:17.02 | jordanm | brandon_: eg. if it was an upgrade of a package from lenny-squeeze you want to revert: aptitude -t lenny install foo |
| 18:17.20 | jordanm | lenny->squeeze |
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| 18:19.09 | ksoviero | what is the debian "testing-security" repo? |
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| 18:20.03 | streuner | if you want security just use lenny/stable. |
| 18:20.09 | jack__ | jelly-home: sorry, do you have a link of it? |
| 18:20.23 | jordanm | !tell ksoviero about testing security |
| 18:20.35 | jordanm | ksoviero: the factoid told you a few mins ago. |
| 18:20.59 | ksoviero | jordanm, um, i didnt see it? |
| 18:21.55 | ksoviero | jordanm, i just saw it... but that line is it my apt sources, but i dont see oo.o 3.2.1 in there. |
| 18:22.01 | jordanm | ksoviero: it was posted once to the channel and dpkg pm'ed you once |
| 18:22.32 | jordanm | ksoviero: pastebin: apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy openoffice.org |
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| 18:24.41 | jelly-home | jack__: direct link to the source, no. http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon |
| 18:24.50 | ksoviero | jordanm, never used pastebin, but here: http://pastebin.com/TyWCya41 |
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| 18:26.04 | jordanm | ksoviero: thats only one of the two commands I asked for, now the other |
| 18:27.08 | ksoviero | jordanm, http://pastebin.com/tPUtsHUY |
| 18:27.19 | mbertens | jordanm: in the ./configure process i get is message "No package 'gobject-introspection-1.0' found", and i cannot find the package |
| 18:27.36 | mbertens | is that not available ? |
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| 18:28.36 | jordanm | ,versions gobject-itrospection |
| 18:28.37 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'gobject-itrospection' was found. |
| 18:28.49 | jordanm | ,versions gobject-introspection-1.0 |
| 18:28.49 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'gobject-introspection-1.0' was found. |
| 18:28.52 | jordanm | ,versions gobject-introspection |
| 18:28.53 | judd | gobject-introspection -- lenny-backports: 0.6.7-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.6.14-1; sid: 0.6.14-1+b1 |
| 18:29.01 | jordanm | mbertens: its there |
| 18:29.05 | jelly-home | gives jordanm the letter N as nanny-state |
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| 18:31.53 | mbertens | jordanm: ok its there, but version is too low, i need 0.6.2 and not 0.6.14 :-( |
| 18:32.22 | denni1 | does the current squeeze kernel require hda or sda to boot? |
| 18:32.36 | jordanm | mbertens: it says 0.6.14 above... |
| 18:32.56 | denni1 | on pata disks |
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| 18:33.57 | jelly-home | denni1: depends on the driver used for the particular controller, most should be sda in squeeze |
| 18:34.27 | jelly-home | denni1: I boot from root=LABEL=root, wherever it is! |
| 18:34.51 | jelly-home | hm, well on this machine LABEL=Debian |
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| 18:35.07 | tydel | question, I noticed that mirrors.kernel.org and some others stopped carrying etch ... is there a news article or something regarding this shift? |
| 18:35.29 | dondelelcaro | tydel: etch has been moved to archives.debian.org |
| 18:35.29 | jelly-home | tydel: etch has gone to archive.debian.org |
| 18:35.34 | dondelelcaro | s/s// |
| 18:35.35 | tydel | ah |
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| 18:35.49 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: "ha?" |
| 18:35.50 | tydel | I looked on the archives page, and it listed 3.1 as the most recent archived version |
| 18:36.16 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: this is DWIM regexes |
| 18:36.28 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: I want your engine. |
| 18:36.47 | dondelelcaro | tydel: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/06/msg00003.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2010/msg00005.html if you want the announcements |
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| 18:37.32 | denni1 | well, I have have yaboot so I needed to know if squeeze switched to sda for most pata stuff recently or if it still was hda. |
| 18:38.25 | jordanm | my vbox installs go from hdx->sdx on upgrade to testing/unstable. |
| 18:38.45 | tydel | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 18:39.14 | ksoviero | should i move from testing to sid? |
| 18:39.42 | jordanm | ksoviero: no, you can provide the pastebin to that other command |
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| 18:40.04 | jordanm | ksoviero: sorry, I see it now (I thinkg) |
| 18:40.37 | jordanm | ksoviero: aptitude update; try again |
| 18:40.37 | ksoviero | jordanm, ya, i thoght i sent it |
| 18:40.46 | ksoviero | jordanm, ok |
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| 18:42.30 | ksoviero | jordanm, ok, their both in there: |
| 18:42.33 | ksoviero | http://pastebin.com/bzNe2Jyb |
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| 18:43.10 | thomas_ | hello, I have a probleme with chromium, there are no accent(since the last upgrade) but all of my locale are configured do you have an idea |
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| 18:43.30 | jordanm | ksoviero: and that last pastebin is after running aptitude update? |
| 18:43.37 | ksoviero | jordanm, ya |
| 18:43.47 | thomas_ | chromium-bsu |
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| 18:44.05 | jordanm | ,versions chromium-browser |
| 18:44.08 | judd | chromium-browser -- sid: 5.0.375.70~r48679-2 |
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| 18:44.39 | jordanm | ksoviero: did update give any errors? |
| 18:44.59 | ksoviero | jordanm, no |
| 18:45.13 | HideMe | Is apache2-ssl-certificate no longer in apache2-utils with Debian 5? |
| 18:45.19 | thomas_ | which package can do that with chromium bsu? |
| 18:45.42 | streuner | its only in sid |
| 18:45.45 | jordanm | thomas_: what is "bsu"? |
| 18:45.53 | qq- | , versions chromium-bsu |
| 18:45.54 | judd | chromium-bsu -- squeeze: 0.9.14-1; sid: 0.9.14.1-1 |
| 18:46.04 | streuner | oh |
| 18:46.05 | jordanm | ,info chromium-bsu |
| 18:46.08 | judd | No record of package 'chromium-bsu' in lenny/i386. |
| 18:46.09 | thomas_ | chromium-bsu shoot'em up |
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| 18:46.15 | jordanm | ,info chromium-bsu --release sid |
| 18:46.17 | judd | chromium-bsu (games, optional): fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter. Version: 0.9.14.1-1; Size: 126.7k; Installed: 444k; Homepage: http://chromium-bsu.sourceforge.net/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/chromium-bsu |
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| 18:47.13 | acu | I am trying to use to usb webcams in the same time - cannot - I understand that I have to tell the usb that I have two cameras and to divide its bandwith - can anyone help or direct me to who might know |
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| 18:48.47 | jordanm | ksoviero: gah, didn't even notice that last pastebin was good... should get upgraded on "aptitude upgrade" now |
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| 18:50.10 | ksoviero | jordanm, aside from removing two old packages (i know what they are, they are unimportant), it does not have oo.o |
| 18:50.33 | mbertens | jordanm: thanks for your help, i got udev-141 to compile under the chrooted sid, so i can now continue :-) |
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| 18:54.05 | jepster | what should I install to be able to paste text in my debian virtual host, which is running on a ubuntu-host? |
| 18:54.12 | thomas_ | and i have a probleme with ginstall-info and dpkg... :( snif |
| 18:55.07 | Thaxll | I'm sure this question has been asked so many times but where could I find an ETCH repository ? |
| 18:55.19 | qq- | , versions ginstall-info |
| 18:55.19 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ginstall-info' was found. |
| 18:55.20 | jordanm | ksoviero: I apologize... I was reading the versions wrong. the version you were after was uploaded to sid 2010-06-19. It usually takes 2-10 days for it move into testing as long as it not "blocked" |
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| 18:55.51 | jordanm | !tell ksoviero about ssb |
| 18:55.56 | inspiron | hey guys I have a problem: I need to make a local installation of certain packages in particular dpkg. I want to upload it to a server which runs fedora and then will evoke the dpkg from where I've installed it and use it. I know, I know what's the point of dpkg then but U am mainly interested in debuild because this fedora server needs to package some source code into a deb. The packaging system works perfectly on a debian system but I need it |
| 18:55.56 | inspiron | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.17 | jordanm | ksoviero: you can try your luck with ssb, creating a testing/unstable mix (not recommended), or just wait it out |
| 18:56.39 | dondelelcaro | inspiron: why don't you just build the packages in a debian chroot on that machine? |
| 18:56.55 | ksoviero | is there any reason i should stick with testing over sid? |
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| 18:57.09 | dondelelcaro | ksoviero: in general, if you don't know the answer to that question, that's the answer. |
| 18:57.15 | jordanm | ksoviero: is there any reason to use either? |
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| 18:57.39 | dondelelcaro | inspiron: installing Debian packages on a fedora machine, or building Debian packages on a non-Debian machine is not something that's worth doing |
| 18:58.21 | inspiron | dondelelcaro: damn man lol I'm so dumb - I created a chroot on my debian machine :D. I've never used chroot so didn't know what it's used for ;) |
| 18:58.28 | ksoviero | jordanm, well, thanks for your help, i have an idea... i will probably be back soon... ;) |
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| 18:59.02 | Pupeno | Do I need to do anything else than write /etc/timezone in Debian to set the timezone? |
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| 18:59.19 | jordanm | !set time |
| 18:59.19 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> or <openntpd> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS prior. |
| 18:59.32 | jordanm | Pupeno: usually /etc/localtime contains some binary data |
| 18:59.37 | inspiron | dondelelcaro: I'm sure it isn't. However I need to package debian packages. Our compile farm runs fedora. the other option is to have a separate machine specifically for debian pacakges but it's best if it is all contained together. |
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| 19:00.02 | dondelelcaro | inspiron: yeah, so in the compile farm, you just run the installs in a Debian chroot |
| 19:00.16 | Thaxll | Please I need an answer guys, where could I find a repo for ETCH? |
| 19:00.22 | Pupeno | jordanm: I'm trying to set it with puppet, so all those commands are not good for me. |
| 19:00.23 | dondelelcaro | inspiron: you should (probably) already be building in chroots anyway; possibly even in kvm virtual machines which are snapshotted |
| 19:00.24 | abrotman | !tell Thaxll about ado |
| 19:00.35 | abrotman | !tell Thaxll about etch->lenny |
| 19:01.01 | inspiron | dondelelcaro: I am using virtual machines but for the building I didn't need to use chroot. I new what the dependencies are so... |
| 19:01.27 | Thaxll | Well, if I cannot upgrade my server for a random reason what i'm suppose to do? |
| 19:01.28 | jordanm | Pupeno: cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/foo /etc/localtime; atleast, that is how it was manually done in gentoo |
| 19:01.28 | dondelelcaro | inspiron: if you're using virtual machines, you should just be able to set up a Debian virtual machine... but whatever works |
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| 19:01.36 | dondelelcaro | Thaxll: fix the random reason, then upgrade |
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| 19:01.45 | cusco | hi |
| 19:01.47 | dondelelcaro | Thaxll: etch isn't supported, and has known security bugs |
| 19:01.58 | cusco | is there a package to enable ssh2 bindings on PHP? |
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| 19:02.22 | inspiron | dondelelcaro: I think I got it 10x a lot really. I see you are multitasking quite efficiently here ;) |
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| 19:03.19 | dondelelcaro | Thaxll: alternatively, you can put someone on salary to support etch for longer; I imagine it'd probably cost around $200K/year or so... |
| 19:03.35 | abrotman | Thaxll: what kind of random reason are we talking about? |
| 19:03.52 | Thaxll | lib dependency which screw up my system |
| 19:04.06 | jordanm | thats pretty vague... |
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| 19:04.09 | dondelelcaro | Thaxll: which library dependencies? someone here can probably help you sort it |
| 19:04.20 | grimpirate | Anyone know a good GUI network configuration tool? |
| 19:04.27 | jordanm | grimpirate: network-manager |
| 19:04.46 | Thaxll | No, thanks but it's too complicate ;) |
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| 19:05.28 | abrotman | Thaxll: it's far better to sort out the issue then to run an unsupported OS |
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| 19:05.45 | abrotman | complicated for you might be a walk in the park for someone else |
| 19:06.27 | grimpirate | ty jordanm |
| 19:07.01 | Thaxll | abrotman: If u get a whole system built on old libs, it's better to do it from scrach rather than fixing the problem |
| 19:07.23 | abrotman | Thaxll: not really .. that is one of the strengths of Debian, being able to upgrade from one release to the next |
| 19:09.03 | hid3 | Good afternoon. Could anyone please check & verify if my new DEBIAN mirror is working properly via the rsync protocol? The IP address is 193.219.80.27 |
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| 19:10.50 | dondelelcaro | hid3: it's not working properly, and you should probably test it first yourself before asking others to.. |
| 19:11.00 | abrotman | hid3: you've been asking all day, no one tested it yet? |
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| 19:11.10 | hid3 | dondelelcaro: what's wrong exactly? you can't connect at all or..? |
| 19:11.36 | dondelelcaro | hid3: run rsync --list-only rsync://193.219.80.27/debian/; yourself... |
| 19:11.40 | hid3 | abrotman: I'm asking just for a second time. I asked this question 6+ hours ago. And NO, NO ONE tested it before |
| 19:11.46 | digimer | I just recovered from a fairly minor filesystem corruption, but I (foolishly) didn't backup my /usr directory... I've located and recovered most of the files except for a handful of files in /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/ |
| 19:12.05 | digimer | I've not been able to figure out which package would have those files... anyone here now by chance? |
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| 19:12.43 | jordanm | digimer: if apt-file does not return anything, I would assume they are generated by dpkg --configure locales |
| 19:12.56 | digimer | jordanm: thanks |
| 19:14.22 | sidh | excuse me , but i needed to compile the latest stable lirc sources on squeeze, i'm quite sure of the conf file, but at startup lircd fails to start, if i "/etc/init.d/lirc start" i get "Loading LIRC modules:." "Starting remote control daemon(s) : LIRC : failed!", but if I "/usr/local/sbin/lircd /etc/lirc/lircd.conf", the service seems to start well, is there any way to have more verbose output during the "/etc/init.d/lirc start" ? |
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| 19:15.43 | digimer | jordanm: sorry, I've not used apt-file... from the man page though, shouldn't 'apt-file -s /path/to/file' be the correct syntax? |
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| 19:16.47 | digimer | jordanm: nm, my bad, 'search', not '-s'. :P |
| 19:16.58 | abrotman | hid3: FWIW, most people find an apt proxy much easier to manage and it consumes far less bandwidth |
| 19:17.06 | jordanm | digimer: yes, but you must run apt-file update first |
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| 19:18.08 | digimer | jordanm: I did, but it just returned 'apt: /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/libapt-inst1.1.mo' rather than a package name... I'll try re-installing 'locales'. |
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| 19:19.47 | digimer | odd, that didn't seem to restore the files, either. |
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| 19:22.58 | tsar | Greetings everyone. Got a sound problem on Squeeze. Had an update about last week, then a reboot. Now there is no sound. "aplay -l" shows my sound device, but when I try to launch alsamixer I get "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory". What can the solution be? |
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| 19:23.56 | inspiron | dondelelcaro: Just for reference isn't kvm too complicated? Isn't say VirtualBox easier and provides the same functionality by making a copy of the generic harddrive and then just replacing it after each modification? |
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| 19:24.15 | nsadmin | the solution can be found once the problem is determined |
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| 19:24.44 | superlinux | hi. I have the fbcon module/driver missing. how can I compile that only? |
| 19:25.06 | tsar | The internal sound card has been switched off in bios setup months ago, when I nearly ruined everything after trying to make two sound cards work at one time. There were some problems after this, but they weren't really big (eg sound disappearing in firefox). |
| 19:25.38 | tsar | nsadmin, well, how can I determine the conditions of the "no sound" problem further? |
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| 19:27.04 | nsadmin | the alsa people have a script you can run that pastebins details about your system that mignt inform the problem |
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| 19:28.22 | superlinux | guys! how can I compile one and only one Linux kernel module, using debian tools? |
| 19:28.52 | lindi- | superlinux: it depends on the module |
| 19:29.18 | nsadmin | you can do it with m-a if it's packaged for use with m-a |
| 19:29.32 | superlinux | nsadmin, it's not listed in m-a |
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| 19:30.11 | superlinux | i want the fbcon module cos it can rotate the /dev/tty* the real terminal screen |
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| 19:30.28 | superlinux | it can change the orientation of |
| 19:30.43 | nsadmin | is that in the kernel source? |
| 19:30.47 | superlinux | yes! |
| 19:30.50 | superlinux | it's |
| 19:30.50 | tsar | nsadmin, http://paste.org.ru/?f13wjo |
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| 19:31.00 | superlinux | but not compiled |
| 19:31.05 | superlinux | but not compiled in debian |
| 19:31.29 | nsadmin | what does /boot/Config-yourversion say about it? |
| 19:32.08 | superlinux | i noticed that when I rotate the Xorg screen, i need also rotate my ttyX cos it will be annoying |
| 19:32.33 | superlinux | nsadmin, i did not copile any of yet |
| 19:32.38 | superlinux | nsadmin, i did not compile any of yet |
| 19:32.54 | superlinux | all i want is to compile that part only |
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| 19:33.18 | nsadmin | ok, so what does /boot/Config-yourversion say about it? |
| 19:33.24 | superlinux | and make it belong to my current running kernel |
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| 19:33.33 | superlinux | let me see |
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| 19:34.05 | superlinux | nsadmin, when I do modprobe, it says module does not exist |
| 19:34.13 | superlinux | i'll see the config |
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| 19:35.07 | superlinux | nsadmin, it does not exist |
| 19:35.25 | nsadmin | so there is nothing about it at all? |
| 19:35.58 | superlinux | nothing is there as said in : grep -i fbcon /boot/config-2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 |
| 19:36.10 | superlinux | i use backports |
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| 19:36.50 | lindi- | superlinux: nothing? that means it is not even disablewd |
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| 19:36.58 | superlinux | yes |
| 19:36.59 | Lantizia | Does anyone know how the installer calculates what swap to make if left to automatically partition? (e.g. if you have 512MB of RAM, and the partitioner gives you a 1.5GB swap, so is it a simple matter of 3xRAM?) |
| 19:37.09 | superlinux | let me see the exit config info about it |
| 19:37.15 | superlinux | let me see the exact config info about it |
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| 19:37.25 | lindi- | superlinux: 2.6.32 is not enough then or you have misspelled the name |
| 19:38.20 | superlinux | no sorry! i did not notice. this fbcon belongs to 2.6./34/ |
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| 19:38.33 | superlinux | I just did not notice the documentation |
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| 19:38.43 | superlinux | I just did not notice it in the documentation |
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| 19:39.01 | nsadmin | ok, so then you want that kernel? |
| 19:39.06 | Blackvel | hi all, what does "rm *" do per default on a debian lenny 5.0.2 system in / directory? does it delete all files under /bin/? |
| 19:39.15 | SerajewelKS | Blackvel: no |
| 19:39.32 | SerajewelKS | Blackvel: you would need the -r option to recursively delete. without -r, rm will not touch non-empty directories. |
| 19:39.49 | SerajewelKS | Blackvel: actually, without -r rm will refuse to touch directories at all |
| 19:40.09 | SerajewelKS | Blackvel: it will remove all of the files and symlinks in / though |
| 19:40.28 | superlinux | nsadmin, it's cumbersome to that now by this late time over my place |
| 19:40.34 | superlinux | and is expensive |
| 19:40.38 | SerajewelKS | Blackvel: which usually includes symlinks to your kernel. so if you just ran that command then rebooting will probably no longer work. |
| 19:41.09 | superlinux | unless someone had that in *.deb format ready form me to install |
| 19:41.27 | lindi- | superlinux: installing random binaries from the net is never the real answer :) |
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| 19:42.05 | lindi- | superlinux: it'll just stop working on next linux upgrade |
| 19:42.25 | SerajewelKS | Lantizia: i think it's a bit more complicated than that, i usually see ~2xRAM |
| 19:42.34 | SerajewelKS | Lantizia: i bet the source code has the algorithm though |
| 19:42.36 | superlinux | lindi-, true |
| 19:42.49 | Lantizia | SerajewelKS, I'm reading theres a maximum of 3xRAM |
| 19:43.03 | nsadmin | superlinux, you might want to look at the fbcon.c file, maybe it has changelog/history |
| 19:43.19 | superlinux | ok |
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| 19:43.44 | superlinux | I will check the download size |
| 19:44.46 | Kapace_ | hello, i broke some packages while being careless, now i'm having some trouble with a dependancy that has 'no installation candidate' (libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6-4.6)... any ideas? |
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| 19:45.03 | Cain | Hello, I just saw in the logs of apache2 someone retrieve two files on my server through a vulnerability in a component added to Joomla! /etc/passwd & /proc/self/environ should I panic? |
| 19:45.28 | nsadmin | if it's not in the config file used to build the kernel (not even to say "not set") then I'd say it's not been a part of that kernel, and if it were to be present would be in a separate package... OR the config file isn't complete |
| 19:45.37 | lindi- | Cain: do you have CVE for the vulnerability? |
| 19:45.47 | Cain | lindi- CVE ? |
| 19:46.07 | SerajewelKS | Cain: you should check to see what the vulnerability allows the user to do. if they can install software as any user then you need to take the appropriate actions to clean your system. |
| 19:46.33 | nsadmin | superlinux, maybe you can do it, but I'm not aware of a way to do it without the kernel source present |
| 19:46.49 | nsadmin | maybe kernel headers |
| 19:46.50 | SerajewelKS | Cain: note also that the apache logs usually only indicate that someone *tried* to do something, but does not indicate at all whether they were actually successful |
| 19:46.54 | lindi- | Cain: an effort to give unique id to every vulnerability. http://cve.mitre.org/index.html |
| 19:47.32 | Cain | SerajewelKS : it was throug a url : i copy/paste the url and i succeeded to retrieve /etc/passwd file |
| 19:47.39 | SerajewelKS | Cain: ah |
| 19:47.51 | SerajewelKS | Cain: if that's all it did then you are relatively safe. you should obviously patch the hole. |
| 19:47.57 | superlinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.00 | Cain | lindi- : i'll check tu site : thx |
| 19:48.04 | SerajewelKS | Cain: but /etc/passwd should only contain account names, it does not actually contain any form of password |
| 19:48.24 | SerajewelKS | Cain: so all the person now has is a list of known-existing account names they could launch a brute-force attack against |
| 19:48.36 | Cain | SerajewelKS : the component is removed but i wonder if there's something else to do |
| 19:49.06 | Cain | SerajewelKS : yes, but what about the /proc/self/environ |
| 19:49.09 | SerajewelKS | Cain: if the vulnerability is in that component then you should be ok. but as lindi- says you should check the CVE about this issue so that you know what they might have been able to do. |
| 19:49.28 | SerajewelKS | Cain: that's just the current process' environment variables |
| 19:49.51 | SerajewelKS | Cain: if you're not storing anything super-secret in environment variables then there should not be very much information leakage |
| 19:49.54 | superlinux | Spain missed the the penalty kick! |
| 19:50.09 | Cain | SerajewelKS : why a 'hacker' would retrieve it ? |
| 19:50.13 | abrotman | superlinux: wrong channel |
| 19:50.23 | SerajewelKS | Cain: usually to obtain context about the target system |
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| 19:51.01 | Cain | SerajewelKS : ok, thx |
| 19:51.13 | SerajewelKS | Cain: basically the user knows some non-public info about your server. but if you keep your system patched for security issues then the information should not be terribly useful to them. |
| 19:51.32 | Blackvel | how could paste me a ls -la / ? |
| 19:51.34 | SerajewelKS | Cain: and you should immediately make sure that all the accounts on your system have resonably secure passwords |
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| 19:51.43 | Blackvel | for a debian lenny |
| 19:51.44 | SerajewelKS | Cain: the first thing they will try is a dictionary attack against the user list |
| 19:52.15 | SerajewelKS | Cain: if it's a multi-user system i would lock everybody's account immediately |
| 19:52.26 | SerajewelKS | Cain: and issue everyone new, secure passwords |
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| 19:53.30 | dondelelcaro | inspiron: no; kvm is really pretty simple, actually |
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| 19:55.17 | Cain | SerajewelKS : No accounts in the server except mine, and system accounts, i have also fail2ban installed and configured(well kind of...) but thx for the advice ! |
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| 19:55.56 | SerajewelKS | Cain: nps. yeah, just make sure you have a decent password, and fail2ban will help mitigate some attacks too. |
| 19:56.28 | Thaxll | I forget the tool to see infos about the network card, someone could refresh mym memory please ? |
| 19:56.34 | SerajewelKS | Thaxll: ifconfig |
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| 19:56.45 | Thaxll | not this one |
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| 19:57.04 | SerajewelKS | ip link? |
| 19:57.16 | SerajewelKS | ethtool? |
| 19:57.31 | Thaxll | something to see if you're connected with half / full duplex ect ... |
| 19:57.49 | SerajewelKS | Thaxll: that is ethtool |
| 19:57.50 | Thaxll | yeah It souds familiar |
| 19:58.03 | jordanm | ethtool, but I believe that information is in dmesg already |
| 19:58.06 | SerajewelKS | meeting, brb later |
| 19:58.07 | nsadmin | cool! time to look into it! |
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| 20:02.56 | Cain | lindi-, SerajewelKS : it was this vulnerability ==> http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2010-0467 |
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| 20:03.37 | dz2 | !wireless |
| 20:03.37 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wimax>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 20:04.36 | dz2 | !tell dz2 what's my wireless |
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| 20:05.01 | Blackvel | what can i do when i can not call any bin commands anymore? |
| 20:05.21 | abrotman | you can't run commands? |
| 20:05.30 | abrotman | !tell dz2 about selftell |
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| 20:05.36 | amphi | Blackvel: why can't you? do they work if you specify the absolute path? |
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| 20:08.02 | grimpirate | I just installed network-manager but can't seem to locate the GUI, what do I need to run? |
| 20:08.15 | dz2 | did you delete /bin/*? |
| 20:08.18 | abrotman | grimpirate: there are front-ends for gnome and kde |
| 20:08.25 | grimpirate | I'm using LXDE abrotman |
| 20:08.34 | abrotman | used wicd |
| 20:08.40 | abrotman | with lxde i mean |
| 20:08.53 | jordanm | grimpirate: sorry, when I answered earlier I didn't mention that -gnome or -kde are the acutal GUIs. either one will work |
| 20:08.58 | dz2 | grimpirate, click on your network icon |
| 20:09.07 | grimpirate | Don't have a network icon dz2 |
| 20:09.17 | Blackvel | amphi: even not that :( |
| 20:09.21 | abrotman | grimpirate: right click on the pane, see if oyu can add it |
| 20:09.39 | Blackvel | dz2: no rm * on / |
| 20:09.41 | amphi | Blackvel: do they have excute bits set? |
| 20:10.02 | grimpirate | ok I've added a Net Status Monitor |
| 20:10.03 | Blackvel | but tab tab or echo /bin/* shows the files are still there (as it seems) |
| 20:10.04 | amphi | Blackvel: ah, that would explain it |
| 20:10.10 | Blackvel | i cant check that....ls doesnt work either |
| 20:10.17 | dz2 | Blackvel, do you have another distro on another partition? |
| 20:10.24 | Blackvel | thats vserver |
| 20:10.30 | grimpirate | There are two tabs that say General and Support, but they provide no configuration ability |
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| 20:13.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | I wonder if there's a way to kind of effortless get lenny in some vm on the windows machine so others can still use it but I got one more computer with linux to run calculations on |
| 20:14.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course I'd still suffer their crashes and reboots :/ |
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| 20:14.09 | Blackvel | can anyone pastebin me a ls -la on / from a lenny 5.0.2 install? |
| 20:14.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | there wouldn't be pre-made images of vmware-player+lenny (or whatever vm one uses these days) images around somewhere? |
| 20:14.59 | grimpirate | I'm connected to the network so that's not a problem |
| 20:15.19 | qq- | Blackvel, http://paste.debian.net/78297/ |
| 20:15.22 | grimpirate | I would just like a GUI for LXDE that allows me to configure it when I'm connected to another hub |
| 20:15.40 | jordanm | grimpirate: should be right click -> edit networking |
| 20:15.50 | maix | hm. how can that happen? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/228185/ (@ apt-get vs. aptitude) |
| 20:15.59 | grimpirate | Right click on what jordanm? |
| 20:16.44 | Texou | Hey :D |
| 20:16.46 | tycel | alright, i'm still having trouble with my bind; I got 3 domains and I'm trying to get them all to point to my vps (after having successfully loaded my first domain and it works fine, the other two wont even get a response when I ping them) any ideas. and I am using Debian 5.07 on a VPS |
| 20:16.49 | jordanm | grimpirate: nm-applet should give you a networking icon (assuming lxde can handle it like xfce can). right click on that icon |
| 20:17.08 | grimpirate | Alright I'll try that and get back to you |
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| 20:17.45 | themill | !dbugs 216768 |
| 20:17.49 | dpkg | #216768:I[apt] [apt] apt mixes essential flag from all sources (confirmed); Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:33:12 UTC [255969 261411 282278 544481] |
| 20:17.56 | themill | maix: ^^ at a guess. |
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| 20:18.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, or could I do it the other way around... debian is installed on a 2nd partition - any simplish way to run the already-installed windows from the other partition in a vm? |
| 20:18.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably difficult |
| 20:18.46 | tharkun | tycel: there is a #bind channel |
| 20:19.01 | themill | maix: incidentally, that's a good reason not to have both testing and stable in your sources.list. |
| 20:19.11 | tycel | k |
| 20:19.11 | abrotman | among others |
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| 20:19.25 | Blackvel | qq-: there are only 3 links, all others are directory which a rm * would not delete? |
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| 20:19.52 | maix | themill: ah, in short, it wants to install it because it's marked as essential in testing? |
| 20:19.54 | maix | hm. |
| 20:20.10 | amee2k | how do i get unicode support working correctly in gnome-terminal? |
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| 20:20.57 | amee2k | i've tried several fonts but it didn't help... either i'm missing some lib or font package, or what else am i doing wrong? |
| 20:20.57 | qq- | Blackvel, i'm not aware about you'r trying to do |
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| 20:21.34 | qq- | Blackvel, man rm |
| 20:22.00 | johndbritton | can someone point me to a good resource for creating a .deb package. We just released an open source web app and want to make it as easy to install as possible |
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| 20:22.28 | karlpinc | johndbritton: There should be a developer manual at debian.org. Or see the wiki.debian.org. |
| 20:22.48 | johndbritton | karlpinc: thanks |
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| 20:23.28 | qq- | Blackvel, and yes , there are only 3 links |
| 20:23.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell johndbritton -about nmg |
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| 20:24.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | johndbritton, that should be most what you need, you can /msg dpkg factoid on the <factoid>s mentioned in the message dpkg sent you |
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| 20:24.48 | johndbritton | thanks CutMeOwnThroat |
| 20:25.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | *additional <factoid>s |
| 20:25.49 | inspiron | Totem/gstreamer just deleted my track :O |
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| 20:26.32 | bahadunn | anyone have problems with cacti poller.php in debian testing? |
| 20:26.45 | inspiron | I'm using stable is this a bug? Also for some reason gstreamer in stable seems to be skipping on a dual core processor with 2GB ram. |
| 20:27.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes... the people who wrote a bug report on it have problems with cacti poller.php in debian testing |
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| 20:28.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | inspiron, high load/bad connection/etc.? |
| 20:28.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | also check the bts on it... |
| 20:28.26 | Blackvel | theiss@vs3711:~$ echo /* |
| 20:28.50 | bahadunn | CutMeOwnThroat: really? |
| 20:28.51 | Blackvel | wrong window |
| 20:29.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | bahadunn, usually... if nobody wrote a report, probably nobody had a problem? |
| 20:29.30 | inspiron | CutMeOwnThroat: Well top doesn't seem to be showing high load but my computer is running really slowly. Even now when I'm typing the letters appear as long as 10 seconds after I've typed them. When I stop playing the track everything seems to be OK |
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| 20:29.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | inspiron, hm, run iotop, too? |
| 20:29.52 | bahadunn | CutMeOwnThroat: that wouldnt happen to be bug #543974 would it? |
| 20:29.59 | maix | themill: can you say something on the very last comment there? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=216768#61 |
| 20:30.55 | bahadunn | CutMeOwnThroat: cause that is for cacti version 0.8.7b and 'stable' branch and we are talking about 'testing' branch and cacti version 0.8.7e |
| 20:30.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | bahadunn, no idea :) I was just trying to tell you in a kind of jokingly fashion, that the chances of someone in here having the same problem is really low, as normally only perhaps 10 people are active at the same time... while they're high that someone wrote a report |
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| 20:31.27 | bahadunn | well seems the bug report is not very useful |
| 20:31.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | (if not, you could write one and see what the maintainer says) |
| 20:31.33 | bahadunn | and the cacti boys sent me over here |
| 20:31.39 | inspiron | CutMeOwnThroat: well doesn't seem to be using a lot of resources - everything is on 0% with the occasional 20KB/s |
| 20:32.15 | bahadunn | I am seriously considering a aptitude purge cacti. It's hard to trust a program that only uses mysql anyways |
| 20:32.18 | bahadunn | :-P |
| 20:32.22 | themill | maix: I'm not sure what you want me to say here. The behaviour is inconsistent but it's not clear what the right behaviour should be. The reason it's not clear is that you should *not* have lenny and squeeze in your sources.list at the same time and you're asking an ill-posted problem. |
| 20:32.25 | inspiron | CutMeOwnThroat: I also have a bug when I go from mains to battery power. However this might be a well known bug - I'm not sure |
| 20:33.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | inspiron, hm, and not using cpu either.. weird - I once had a problem that uncleanly removed usb drives had hanging processes left around, which used ... perhaps 60% CPU with "wait" - that didn't show up in any process using CPU, only in the 1st two lines of 'top' - you could also run vmstat 3 or so and look if you're swapping |
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| 20:33.36 | inspiron | CutMeOwnThroat: I also found a bug with certain files (extensions). Really weird - if you go to a dir which contains a file with this extension nautilus disappears |
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| 20:34.32 | inspiron | CutMeOwnThroat: CPU is 87% idle |
| 20:34.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | inspiron, and did you check dmesg for excessive amounts of errors? |
| 20:35.08 | maix | themill: that was rather an answer to the whole bug (where I agree with you), I just meant the last comment on the aptitude vs apt-get "sub"problem |
| 20:35.32 | inspiron | CutMeOwnThroat: I want to submit the bugs so that developers know about them but how do I explain the problem? How do I put in my bug report that my computer is slow when playing mp3s? |
| 20:35.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | inspiron, if nothing of all that provides a clue, I don't know what could |
| 20:36.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | inspiron, cpu/io or something should go up drastically at least while you play the mp3s... |
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| 20:36.23 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... how can i change my gdm theme ? |
| 20:36.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | specially if it affects typing - that really sounds more like blocked IO to me than high CPU usage |
| 20:36.48 | inspiron | CutMeOwnThroat: what's that? |
| 20:37.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | cobra-the-joker, isn't there a button on the login-screen that allows you to do that? |
| 20:37.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | in what's what? |
| 20:37.31 | cobra-the-joker | CutMeOwnThroat , button to change the theme ?? |
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| 20:38.37 | jordanm | cobra-the-joker: right click on the desktop and its something call preferences or similar |
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| 20:39.32 | cobra-the-joker | jordanm , there is no entry for gDM |
| 20:39.34 | cobra-the-joker | GDM * |
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| 20:39.59 | cusco | im using debian, with standart php5 packages. I can't use ssh2_connect() is there a package like php-ssh2 ? |
| 20:40.15 | Kuifje111 | /usr/sbin/inspircd start |
| 20:40.15 | Kuifje111 | Usage: /usr/sbin/inspircd [--nofork] [--nolog] [--debug] [--logfile <filename>] [--runasroot] [--version] [--config <config>] |
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| 20:40.26 | Kuifje111 | I have installed inspircd with "apt-get install inspircd", but I cannot run it. neither with the init.d script, nor with "/usr/sbin/inspircd start" |
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| 20:40.56 | Kuifje111 | when I execute "/usr/sbin/inspircd start" I get the lines pasted above. |
| 20:41.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | cobra-the-joker, on the gdm login-screen? I dunno - I changed it and had no problems whatsoever, so it must have been obvious, I think (but I don't want to log out now) |
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| 20:42.50 | inspiron | cobra-the-joker - system -> administration -> login window |
| 20:43.12 | simonrvn | Kuifje111: you don't usually use "start" when you run a daemon - that's only for the init script. it's the argument for the case/esac statement |
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| 20:43.14 | purpur | CutMeOwnThroat, you could try "gdmsetup" |
| 20:43.33 | Kuifje111 | simonrvn: the init.d script doesn't work either. |
| 20:43.48 | simonrvn | yes, but why? find out. |
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| 20:44.04 | Kuifje111 | how would I find out? |
| 20:44.06 | purpur | ah wrong guy ;) |
| 20:44.24 | simonrvn | try running it with sh -x |
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| 20:45.32 | Digit | I go sleep! |
| 20:45.32 | Digit | good night ;) |
| 20:46.02 | Kuifje111 | simonrvn: |
| 20:46.03 | Kuifje111 | $ sh -x |
| 20:46.03 | Kuifje111 | $ /etc/init.d/inspircd start |
| 20:46.03 | Kuifje111 | + /etc/init.d/inspircd start |
| 20:46.03 | Kuifje111 | Starting Inspircd... $ |
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| 20:46.25 | simonrvn | Kuifje111: stop pasting here |
| 20:46.29 | simonrvn | !paste |
| 20:46.29 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>. |
| 20:46.32 | Kuifje111 | yeah, I got it. |
| 20:47.01 | simonrvn | um "sh -x /etc/init.d....." |
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| 20:48.14 | Kuifje111 | simonrvn: http://omdfg2.pastebin.com/zuLXsWtT |
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| 20:50.16 | simonrvn | the -- i'd put after the --logfile not before it. try that. |
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| 20:52.06 | cusco | any hints on how to install php-ssh2 on stable? |
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| 20:52.24 | cusco | !why isn't php-ssh2 on lenny? |
| 20:52.49 | E-bola | Is anybody familiar with iptables-restore? I dont understand how i can use it, when it needs to read a file as output by iptables-save, but to use iptables-save i need to have applied the rules first? |
| 20:53.09 | Kuifje111 | simonrvn: http://omdfg2.pastebin.com/0w911hrw |
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| 20:53.19 | cusco | E-bola: Idon't know but Im guessing that you do |
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| 20:54.03 | E-bola | Then i dont get how iptables-apply helps |
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| 20:55.24 | simonrvn | Kuifje111: no. no no no. "... --exec /usr/sbin/inspircd --logfile ${IRCDLOG} -- [whatever it says there in the script]" |
| 20:55.40 | bracki | What could be the reason for 'df' reporting over 90% but 'du' only adding up to 2/3s? |
| 20:55.52 | johndbritton | when making a .deb do I need to be on the latest distro? |
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| 20:59.52 | cobra-the-joker | hey there guys ... can i install a boot splash screen for lenny ? |
| 21:00.58 | dz2 | I know you can do that with lilo |
| 21:01.19 | dz2 | grub should do it also |
| 21:02.12 | SparFux | aptitude install grub-splashimages |
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| 21:03.00 | cobra-the-joker | SparFux , there is some package called grub2-splashimages |
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| 21:03.29 | SparFux | fine. grub2 is better anyway. It is recommended. |
| 21:03.43 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
| 21:03.49 | SparFux | aptitude search splash |
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| 21:04.09 | SparFux | seriously, better use grub2. |
| 21:04.33 | cobra-the-joker | SparFux , ok ... but will that make a splash like ubuntu ..the progress load bar ? |
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| 21:04.53 | SparFux | cobra-the-joker: I don't use splash. So I can't say that. |
| 21:04.59 | Kuifje111 | simonrvn: thanks for the help, but I cant even start it manually. |
| 21:05.02 | smv | cobra-the-joker, you might also have a look at plymouth |
| 21:05.11 | Kuifje111 | simonrvn: I'll just compile the latest version from source. |
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| 21:05.34 | cobra-the-joker | smv , oh great .... i didnt know that plymouth is available for debian |
| 21:05.57 | simonrvn | Kuifje111: must be some other issue. you could strace it and see i the issue is fixed, or maybe doing wrong. |
| 21:06.04 | simonrvn | see if* |
| 21:06.22 | Kuifje111 | I think my kernel is causing this. |
| 21:06.26 | smv | cobra-the-joker, though, isn't working as in fedora, it surely works for non-encrypted / partition |
| 21:07.04 | cobra-the-joker | smv , is there is something like the boot splash of centOS ...you know that progress bar |
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| 21:08.14 | smv | i've no idea, never saw that one, though it might be just plymouth, since the default theme that i saw on a old fedora was a simple loading bar |
| 21:08.23 | cobra-the-joker | smv , something like that http://asplinux.net/files/memb/1_138_centos5.jpg |
| 21:08.33 | odp | hid3, i would like ton install debian from a weekly build, however i can't create a partition (auto or manual), i get an error message : ""The ext3 file system creation in partition blahblahname has failed"" :/ |
| 21:08.39 | odp | -d3 |
| 21:08.56 | cobra-the-joker | smv , i dont know what program does that though |
| 21:08.58 | smv | cobra-the-joker, afraid that's a bit more than what i saw, not sure what that is |
| 21:09.16 | cobra-the-joker | smv , ok ... i will digg around and see what i can do |
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| 21:10.01 | smv | cobra-the-joker, if i'm not wrong, and i usually am, that was before plymouth become default in fedora |
| 21:10.47 | cobra-the-joker | smv , yes ... it was ...and i think its not much advanced as plymouth |
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| 21:11.16 | cobra-the-joker | but really ....the boot is very ugly |
| 21:11.17 | carew | i am having problem with wakeonlan; wakeonlan is enabled in bios and card supports it (says ethtool) but it still doesn't work, i was able to get it to work on other computers, care to troubleshoot this with me? |
| 21:11.52 | smv | cobra-the-joker, i hope to use plymouth some day on my encrypted system, will tell you then if looks the same :)) |
| 21:12.16 | cobra-the-joker | i think plymouth is still very buggy to enter debian stable |
| 21:12.51 | odp | no idea about that problem during the install? :( |
| 21:13.09 | smv | cobra-the-joker, erm, isn't really working in sid, so i guess not |
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| 21:14.40 | carew | i am having problem with wakeonlan; wakeonlan is enabled in bios and card supports it (says ethtool) but it still doesn't work, i was able to get it to work on other computers, care to troubleshoot this with me? |
| 21:15.08 | smv | odp, reboot and start over, delete the partitions that you don't need, reboot again and create those that you need. it worked for me some time ago |
| 21:15.30 | odp | already tried :/ |
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| 21:16.56 | odp | i'll try again so :p |
| 21:17.00 | smv | odp, try to manually create the partion and fs, then start over with the install |
| 21:17.15 | odp | ok |
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| 21:25.29 | cobra-the-joker_ | svm , usplash worked as a sharm |
| 21:25.55 | cobra-the-joker_ | smv * |
| 21:26.15 | smv | isn't that one obsoleted yet? :)) |
| 21:26.57 | cobra-the-joker_ | i dont know about obsoletion ...but it worked ..and its great |
| 21:28.20 | smv | well, i have sns disorder, i wouldn't even check usplash since plymouth almost works :)) |
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| 21:35.11 | Kyle__ | I'm trying to change the timezone on a debian box (vm), but nomatter what I do, it doesn't seem to work. |
| 21:35.29 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, What are you doing? |
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| 21:35.43 | Kyle__ | First /etc/timezone was text, containing just the string "Etc/UTC". I thought it was odd, but figured I'm not used to deb, so I changed it to America/Chicago. It didn't work. |
| 21:36.03 | Kyle__ | Then I tried symlinking /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago to /etc/timezone. Still didn't work. |
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| 21:36.15 | Kyle__ | Then I went through tzselect. _Still_ didn't work. |
| 21:36.35 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: Trying every way I can think of, tha'ts what ;). editing the file, symlinking, and tzselect. |
| 21:37.00 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, What timezone does it currently report? |
| 21:37.02 | JoshH | dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 21:37.09 | Kyle__ | UTC |
| 21:37.12 | JoshH | tzselect doesn't actually change anything |
| 21:37.18 | JoshH | just shows you different values and shit |
| 21:37.24 | Kyle__ | JoshH: O_o it doesn't? |
| 21:37.26 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Are you running ntp or ntpd? |
| 21:37.29 | JoshH | man tzselect |
| 21:37.32 | JoshH | it tells you |
| 21:37.37 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Are you running ntp or ntpd? |
| 21:37.43 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: Nope, because the clock is synced to it's host. |
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| 21:38.23 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Are you using vServer or a full OS vm? |
| 21:38.26 | Kyle__ | Where does Deb store the timezone selection then? |
| 21:38.52 | Spec | I want to remove extraneous users on my debian system(lenny). "backups" is one such user, but I can't find any documentation claiming if it's "required". |
| 21:39.05 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: Neither, proxmox. It's a (debian based I think) virtualization distro. |
| 21:39.07 | amphi | Kyle__: /etc/timezone |
| 21:39.15 | Spec | same with "games", and "gnats", and various other users that are created, but don't seem necessary. |
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| 21:39.22 | Kyle__ | Humm. So why didn't my symlink do the trick I wonder? |
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| 21:39.29 | Kyle__ | AHh well. It's happy now. |
| 21:39.59 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: proxmox can do containers, or KVM virtual machines. Containers aren't quite as versitile, but they run at %100 native speed, which is a plus. |
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| 21:40.37 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, That is the vServer system...... If I remember correctly.... They get a good chunk of info from the host.... |
| 21:41.02 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: vServer as in VMWare vserver? This isn't it, but I've used that before. |
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| 21:41.09 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Is the host set with the proper time zone..... |
| 21:41.24 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: Here it is. OpenVZ, that's the container system it uses. http://wiki.openvz.org/Main_Page |
| 21:41.33 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: Yes, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata did it. |
| 21:41.35 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Nope... It predates it by a bit... I was doing vServers about 10 years ago.... |
| 21:41.48 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Name has changed a few times.... |
| 21:42.14 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Yep... Based on context permissions... One kernel to rule them all..... |
| 21:42.21 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: Oh ok. I think I have a dim recollection of that. Usermode linux maybe? OpenVZ (if you don't care to read all the wiki;) was done by Parallels, then open sourced. |
| 21:42.28 | odp | smv, it failed x) |
| 21:42.41 | Kyle__ | THat's exactly this. I've only used it under proxmox-ve, because, umm, well, it makes it easy. |
| 21:43.08 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, More like permission based contexts.... Each context is allowed so much space/processor time/ram.... |
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| 21:43.30 | Kyle__ | nods |
| 21:43.41 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Very cool system... And much easier than a VMware or Xen..... in the management.... |
| 21:43.48 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Check your host timezones.... |
| 21:43.51 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: Hell yes. |
| 21:43.52 | smv | odp, try to format them manually |
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| 21:44.10 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: The host's timezone was fine. As were the other VMs on it (I set those right when I installed them). |
| 21:44.10 | odp | yep i did too :s |
| 21:44.15 | odp | weird... |
| 21:45.09 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: One cool this about this one, is it offers live-migration. |
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| 21:45.40 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__,.... And live migration is to copy one folder to another area..... |
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| 21:45.52 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Ok... well not quite live... :) |
| 21:45.57 | carew | does anyone know the pinout for wol cable? |
| 21:46.08 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: Well, yes :) but rsync, pause a sec, rsync, start back on the new one. |
| 21:46.15 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure tzdata? |
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| 21:46.45 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: I don't know how robust it is, but it was robust enough for a vm running mysql& apache to be moved without a glitch. |
| 21:46.49 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: I did. It's happy now. |
| 21:46.56 | HermanDE_ | carew, Depends on the card/motherboard/connection type.... |
| 21:47.22 | fruitwerks | uhh is there an rsync-server package for Lenny? |
| 21:47.35 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, It's called rsync |
| 21:47.49 | carew | HermanDE_: so i need to find it out by myself? |
| 21:47.49 | Kyle__ | carew: I recall it only needed two-wires, but it's been awhile... |
| 21:47.56 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, One program... One application.... many different configs.... |
| 21:47.58 | fruitwerks | - and where is the rsyncd config hidden? |
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| 21:48.23 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: You know you don't need to run the rsync server if you're doing rsync over ssh.. |
| 21:48.28 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, Adjust the config for rsync... Run it.... in the config set it up as a server.... |
| 21:48.35 | carew | Kyle__: thats a start |
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| 21:48.54 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, Check the /usr/share/docs/rsync |
| 21:49.02 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, after you install it.... |
| 21:49.11 | fruitwerks | sshfs is pissing me off - I need to see it run a normal server-client rsync |
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| 21:49.24 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, What are you trying to do? |
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| 21:49.30 | tharkun | is there a way to kill mutiple processes using one single kill command? |
| 21:49.43 | HermanDE_ | tharkun, poweroff --now |
| 21:49.45 | Kyle__ | carew: If you google for it, you find pictures of cables with very small headders... two wires. Maybe you can butcher a cd-audio cable? |
| 21:49.53 | tharkun | HermanDE_: how funny |
| 21:50.01 | carew | Kyle__: indeed |
| 21:50.03 | fruitwerks | get a base sync of about 40gb |
| 21:50.15 | carew | Kyle__: i only need to know which cable |
| 21:50.40 | carew | HermanDE_: wol is a standaard so it doesn't depend on the type of mb or card |
| 21:50.41 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, Hope you have a fast connection.... |
| 21:50.43 | Kyle__ | carew: Don't bother buying a real cable until you _know_ your hardware works. None of the dells at my work actually work for WOL, despite claiming they do. |
| 21:51.05 | fruitwerks | 1gb <> 100mb |
| 21:51.09 | carew | Kyle__: what dells do you use? |
| 21:51.17 | HermanDE_ | carew, ....I'm usually very wrong.... But there are some cards in the wild that have a funky WOL cable.... |
| 21:51.34 | carew | HermanDE_: funky as in...? |
| 21:51.36 | Kyle__ | carew: Trying to recall. I've got two labs full of them, heh (university). |
| 21:51.43 | HermanDE_ | carew, 8 pin.... |
| 21:51.54 | HermanDE_ | carew, with 8 really fun wires... |
| 21:52.28 | carew | HermanDE_: 8 pin? :p thats a lot. My mb and cards both have 3 pins |
| 21:52.31 | Kyle__ | carew, OptiPlex GX620 |
| 21:52.53 | Kyle__ | THank god for dmidecode :) it dumps everything you need, including the model number (if it's in the bios). |
| 21:52.56 | HermanDE_ | carew, Yep... I love standards.... |
| 21:53.10 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Perfect... Not a problem there.... |
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| 21:53.16 | Kyle__ | sighs. |
| 21:53.16 | carew | Kyle__: ok i have a GX260 which has wol enabled and it works as a charm |
| 21:53.46 | julianoliver | how can i regenerate /etc/issue? 2 years ago i installed a Sid system that is now stable/testing. |
| 21:53.49 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, That is an Optiplex.... WOL should be built-in... No cables /cards required.... |
| 21:53.51 | carew | Kyle__: _never_ had a problem with it |
| 21:54.00 | julianoliver | better to just manual edit? |
| 21:54.16 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: should be, but I can't get it to work. I tried, I investigated. NO one with this model can get it to work apparently. |
| 21:54.29 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, Have you thought of a simple FTP..... |
| 21:54.31 | carew | Kyle__: strange |
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| 21:54.47 | carew | good back to my problem :p |
| 21:54.48 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, If the systems are in the same lan, you could pump the data without the security overhead.... |
| 21:54.57 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, And it would be much faster.... |
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| 21:56.18 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, It took me a bit to wrap my head around mine.... I have a GX 280... |
| 21:56.20 | fruitwerks | this is not lan - and I don't give a poo about security, I just need the data |
| 21:56.45 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, At reboot, the WOL resets..... So, I have a sysctl reset it during startup.... |
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| 21:59.34 | carew | HermanDE_: what do you mean by "a sysctl"? |
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| 22:00.29 | jordanm | I would assume a command involving sysctl... |
| 22:01.03 | tharkun | What can cause dbus-daemon to fork 32000 times? |
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| 22:01.34 | carew | jordanm: a command involving sysctl? so what does sysctl means? |
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| 22:01.56 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: Really? Humm. OK I"ll try that tomorrow (can't now, just had to open up the lab for a proff). |
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| 22:02.18 | jordanm | carew: sysctl is a command used to modify values in /proc/sys. see man sysctl |
| 22:02.20 | fruitwerks | much better |
| 22:02.35 | fruitwerks | 3 seconds and it was already past what it took over two days to do on sshfs |
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| 22:02.52 | carew | jordanm: oh ok, i just used a scritp to enable wol at each boot |
| 22:03.18 | jordanm | carew: well, permanent changes there belong in /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 22:03.22 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Hold one... An update blew out my WOL stuff.... I'm trying to remember/get it back.... |
| 22:03.31 | Kyle__ | Heh. |
| 22:03.42 | HermanDE_ | carew, I had a sysctl.conf entry that forced the NIC to set WOL at startup..... |
| 22:03.42 | Kyle__ | That type of stuff can drive you nuts, ya know? |
| 22:03.43 | tycel | is there a postfix help channel? -_-; |
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| 22:03.50 | dz2 | how do i remove the acx100 module? |
| 22:04.01 | dz2 | m-a purge acx100? |
| 22:04.04 | jordanm | tycel: I am going to guess #postfix on this network |
| 22:06.05 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: I don't know debian as well as I know the other distros...but in many distros rsync is handled by (x)inetd... |
| 22:06.31 | carew | HermanDE_: how? can you please explain? |
| 22:06.36 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Here is the key.... Check out ethtool.... |
| 22:06.45 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, You can setup WOL there.... |
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| 22:06.59 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Ensure you have a script to set WOL after each reboot.... |
| 22:07.06 | Kyle__ | HermanDE_: OK. So you set wol using ethtool. Shutdown, and _then_ you can wake the system from lan? |
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| 22:07.18 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Memories are like the wind.... I have a script.... not a sysctl.... |
| 22:07.50 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Yes.... I then use ethtool to reset the WOL during startup..... |
| 22:08.06 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, So as long as it gets to the script for ethtool, I'm golden.... |
| 22:08.17 | HermanDE_ | Kyle__, Ensure there are no CD's in the system.... :) |
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| 22:09.45 | tharkun | I have dbus-daemon that is forking on a mayor level, 30000 or so, can someone pooint me on the right direction to find what on earth is making it fork so much? |
| 22:09.46 | tycel | thx:) |
| 22:10.26 | carew | HermanDE_: i use the same, a script that enables it with ethtool |
| 22:11.45 | HermanDE_ | carew, Yep... does the trick well... |
| 22:12.04 | carew | Kyle__: only two lines in the script |
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| 22:12.50 | Kyle__ | It looks like "ethool eth0 wol g" should do it. Or something similar to that... |
| 22:13.15 | carew | so i need to go, search for some cables to test the damn wol, i hope I don't blow anything up :p or burn some transistors on the mb because then I am screwed :p |
| 22:13.20 | carew | Kyle__: let me check |
| 22:14.02 | jordanm | tharkun: the only thing I can think of aside from strace is ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 22:15.29 | carew | Kyle__: ethtool -s eth0 wol g |
| 22:15.35 | Kyle__ | carew: the -s has it! |
| 22:16.04 | carew | Kyle__: yep, with ethtool eth0 you can recheck it is realy enabled |
| 22:16.45 | carew | Kyle__: then halt and send magic pakket and done, but at reboot the wakeonlan is deactivated so that is the script for |
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| 22:17.25 | carew | now i realy need to go :p see you guys and thx for the help |
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| 22:20.06 | clotptzi | http://radioflyblajeni.zapto.org:8080/stream.ogg.m3u chek it up now |
| 22:20.11 | Chowder | I notice that Debian supports SPARC. Do you guys know of any hardware vendors that sell it? |
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| 22:20.55 | Kyle__ | Chowder: Umm, sun. Sun sells sparcs, or did up until Oracle bought them. DUnno about now. |
| 22:21.12 | Kyle__ | I think toshiba used to sell some as well, dunno about nowdays. |
| 22:21.16 | tharkun | What package does the /etc/init.d/vnserver live in? |
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| 22:21.41 | tharkun | What package does the /etc/init.d/vncserver live in? |
| 22:21.59 | Chowder | Kyle__: so my dreams of a sparc based system for the home are not gonna happen :( |
| 22:22.00 | Spec | so...I've some questions about the default users that are created. Where is documentation for these users, and their uses/requirements? (ie: daemon user, bin user, sys user, sync user) |
| 22:22.38 | Kyle__ | Chowder: Easy to make them happen, if you'll be happy with a 15 year old 32bit sparc. |
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| 22:22.57 | Kyle__ | Chowder: hard to happen if you want a coulple-hundred-mhz 64 bit, but doable |
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| 22:23.06 | Kyle__ | Chowder: impossible if you want a modern desktop-speed sparc. |
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| 22:23.50 | Chowder | Kyle__: yea, I was thinking that it'd be pretty cool to have a modern sparc system |
| 22:24.00 | Chowder | that's not a crazy server or supercomputer |
| 22:24.25 | Kyle__ | Chowder: I used to have some 32bit sparcs. Ran debian for awhile, but switch to NetBSD (at that time it was a better match for the hardware). |
| 22:24.46 | tharkun | afaik still is |
| 22:24.54 | Kyle__ | Chowder: But the last time I've used a sparc workstaiton was back in the sunblade100 days...and I blame those POS boxes for killing sparc as desktop boxes. |
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| 22:26.15 | Chowder | http://www.opensparc.net/ <<might still be hope |
| 22:26.22 | Kyle__ | OOoh. |
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| 22:29.14 | starenka | any idea, why rsync refuses to take --copy-links? http://openpaste.org/en/22184/ |
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| 22:30.41 | frostschutz | starenka: because of -e? |
| 22:31.19 | starenka | oh |
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| 22:32.06 | buntfalke | Host A can try several thousand WPA keys per second, but when using wordlist input from a veeeeery slow stdin (2keys/s) it still consumes all CPU - what the...? |
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| 22:32.15 | buntfalke | it=aircrack-ng |
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| 22:33.01 | starenka | frostschutz: thanks |
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| 22:33.25 | qq- | buntfalke, running ubuntu? |
| 22:34.21 | buntfalke | Well, last time I checked this was #debian ;-) |
| 22:34.32 | buntfalke | it's a debian testing system |
| 22:34.36 | buntfalke | nothing special |
| 22:34.54 | fruitwerks | ok what can keep root from logging in over ssh - yes I know what I am doing, andPermitRootLogin is set to yes in ssh conf |
| 22:35.30 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: well, have you tried setting that to no, and restarting ssh? |
| 22:35.34 | buntfalke | fruitwerks: either set it to no, or set nologin as login shell or sth like it |
| 22:35.45 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, Do you have root listed in Allowed Users? |
| 22:35.45 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: Otherwise, I think you can do some pam tricks, but I've never done it, so I can only point you in the direction. |
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| 22:36.01 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: Oh wait, you _want_ to let root in, sorry my bad. |
| 22:36.28 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, Does root have a login account on the system? Is pam setup to allow root the SSH service? |
| 22:36.43 | buntfalke | ooooh. i mistunderstood him, too, thinking he searches for a way to "keep root from doing it" not "what else could be the problem" |
| 22:36.51 | fruitwerks | I can login as any user except root |
| 22:37.09 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, Can you log into a console directly as root? |
| 22:37.19 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: can you log in, as root, from the console login prompt? |
| 22:37.22 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, w/o sudo.... |
| 22:37.24 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: start there. |
| 22:37.43 | fruitwerks | I don't have console access, and sudo works, root shell is bash |
| 22:37.57 | carew | so anyone any experience with rsync? |
| 22:37.58 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: This system is remote only? |
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| 22:38.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | sudo uses a completely different mechanism |
| 22:38.09 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: OK, then try, as root, typing "login" |
| 22:38.15 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: And try and login as root that way. |
| 22:38.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | is that debian? Normally that doesn't use sudo by default |
| 22:38.21 | Kyle__ | Right you are dibbler. |
| 22:38.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | root might just not have a password |
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| 22:38.48 | Kyle__ | carew: Lots with rsync over ssh, a little with streight rsync. Still having problems? |
| 22:38.49 | HermanDE_ | Or is limited.... No shell.... |
| 22:39.13 | carew | Kyle__: I just need some help with a setup I am thinking off |
| 22:39.14 | fruitwerks | root has a password lol, I tried login - just says Login Incorrect after password |
| 22:39.19 | HermanDE_ | SELinux might be setup.... |
| 22:39.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | check roots entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow |
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| 22:39.23 | fruitwerks | could it be shadow passwords? |
| 22:39.29 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, Check your auth.log.... |
| 22:39.35 | Kyle__ | carew: OK, what's the setup? |
| 22:39.39 | HermanDE_ | fruitwerks, See where it's stopping.... |
| 22:39.40 | carew | Kyle__: I'd like to setup a back-up server with rsync |
| 22:39.51 | carew | Kyle__: that pulls the info from each pc |
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| 22:40.10 | HermanDE_ | carew, Have you looked at BackupPC? |
| 22:40.28 | carew | HermanDE_: I'd like to do it in debian :p |
| 22:40.30 | HermanDE_ | carew, A complete system that works across different platforms... Uses Rsync.... |
| 22:40.35 | Kyle__ | carew: Like HermanDE_ said, BackupPC, or you could roll your own using cwrsync (a cygwin-rsync install for win32). |
| 22:40.36 | HermanDE_ | carew, It is Debian.... |
| 22:40.50 | carew | HermanDE_: oh ok :p |
| 22:40.51 | HermanDE_ | carew, apt-cache search backuppc |
| 22:41.12 | HermanDE_ | carew, Web interface... Versioned backups.... Plug and go.... |
| 22:41.13 | Kyle__ | carew: I used to use that for pulling rsync backups from the windos machines. The linux boxes were of course already backed up via rsync :) |
| 22:41.21 | fruitwerks | I password and the log says session opened, then lists the current sudo sessions and closes |
| 22:41.37 | carew | HermanDE_: how should i know I have very little knowledge :p |
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| 22:42.08 | HermanDE_ | carew, We all have very little knowledge.... That's why most of us are here.... |
| 22:42.24 | carew | Kyle__, HermanDE_ : is it hard to build you're own scripts for taking backups? it only ubuntu and debian boxes |
| 22:42.36 | HermanDE_ | Then there are others who have too much knowledge... We should keep those people away..... |
| 22:42.41 | fruitwerks | well maybe I'm going about this wrong - when I run rsync, it doesn't allow me into everything I need - access denied |
| 22:43.02 | Kyle__ | carew: Not hard at all, but it's more work to maintain. |
| 22:43.11 | HermanDE_ | carew, Easy peasy.... I just like systems that are easy to manage... Keep in mind that what you wish to backup might need to be recovered someday.... |
| 22:43.12 | karsten | HermanDE_: speak for yourself. I have no knowledge. |
| 22:43.25 | HermanDE_ | Ensure you have tested the recovery before you go into production.... |
| 22:43.43 | Kyle__ | carew: Mine used to have a backup user with an ssh key but no password (so it was key-only access), that had rights to read all data to be backed up. |
| 22:44.07 | karsten | carew: it's relatively straightforward to roll your own backup scripts. A backup solution may make the process easier / help you avoid some common pitfalls. |
| 22:44.19 | Kyle__ | carew: Then the backup server would simply rsync the files to be backed up, and tar them to tape. |
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| 22:44.41 | HermanDE_ | Hmm... why does Knowledge become a picture of a man staring down the ledge of a very large cliff... Deciding weather to flap his arms or just go for a nose dive on the way down.... |
| 22:44.42 | Kevin` | how do I upgrade etch to lenny? |
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| 22:45.20 | Kyle__ | Kevin`: Never done it in debian, but ubuntu is do-release-upgrade. I have to assume it's similar. |
| 22:45.33 | karsten | carew: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Linux/FAQs/backups.html describes a setup I used to use w/ tape. These days I'd go with rsync / disk-based. |
| 22:45.34 | fruitwerks | seriously > rsync: opendir "/home" failed: Permission denied (13) |
| 22:45.50 | qq- | dpkg, etch->lenny |
| 22:45.50 | dpkg | Read the release notes, ask me about <lenny release notes>. Ensure your Etch installation is up to date, ask me about <etch sources.list> (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Then ask me about <lenny sources.list>. aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask me about <apt-listbugs>, <etch->lenny key>. |
| 22:45.57 | Kyle__ | karsten: Do you still have a requirement for long-term backups? |
| 22:46.07 | carew | Kyle__, HermanDE_, karsten: i dont have any tapes |
| 22:46.09 | karsten | Kyle__: Not per se. |
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| 22:46.24 | HermanDE_ | carew, What sort of media are you going to put the backups? |
| 22:46.30 | carew | Kyle__, HermanDE_, karsten: it is a home setup, so no large amounts of money spend |
| 22:46.32 | fruitwerks | minidisc :D |
| 22:46.33 | Kyle__ | karsten: Ahh ok. My old job we did, so we still used tapes. New job, we don't, but I'm getting a bluray burner in a week or two. |
| 22:46.34 | karsten | carew: backuppc looks like a good start. rsync is very likely your friend. |
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| 22:46.41 | HermanDE_ | carew, If the building burnt down.... Where would the backups be found? |
| 22:46.55 | Kyle__ | carew: So you don't have the dumpster-dived 5-DAT4-tape-changer? |
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| 22:46.59 | carew | Kyle__, HermanDE_, karsten: hard disk in softwareraid |
| 22:47.06 | karsten | Kyle__: Corporate: not my area of responsibility. Not sure what the system is. Lots of big storage boxes aroudn though. |
| 22:47.21 | mocikz | I have linux on hda. how to run it on another box, in some virtualization or smth? for highperformance (64bit, 4 core, 12 gb ram) ? inf fast to setup way. ? |
| 22:47.30 | Kyle__ | karsten: Ahh ok. Disc-based backsups just make me hinky. |
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| 22:47.46 | carew | HermanDE_: in my room :p |
| 22:47.51 | HermanDE_ | mocikz, ??? |
| 22:47.52 | Kyle__ | carew: Just remember, raid wasn't supposed to be a backup system :) |
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| 22:48.04 | HermanDE_ | mocikz, Can you rephrase that into a question? |
| 22:48.10 | karsten | Kyle__: These days I could splurge for the tape. Back in the day, not. I have a bunch of other crap I should splurge on first. |
| 22:48.12 | fruitwerks | raid6 is fine |
| 22:48.16 | Kyle__ | For home stuff I burn it to blurays, and get my parents to put them in their saftey-deposit-vox. |
| 22:48.19 | Kyle__ | shrugs |
| 22:48.23 | carew | Kyle__: i know but the rsync server is using raid |
| 22:48.24 | Kyle__ | I really should get my own I suppose... |
| 22:48.27 | karsten | carew: RAID is about disk availability and posisbly performance, not backup. |
| 22:48.34 | Kyle__ | carew: true true.... |
| 22:48.47 | carew | karsten: i know that why i want to build a back up :d:d:d |
| 22:49.01 | Kyle__ | carew: Sorry :) you're getting beaten up by a bunch of sysadmins who probably had years of backup-admin duty. |
| 22:49.03 | HermanDE_ | carew, My 2cents is to get a couple of usb hard drives... cron the backup every other week.... |
| 22:49.14 | HermanDE_ | carew, Have a friend hold onto the other drive.... |
| 22:49.28 | carew | HermanDE_: thats what i want to do! |
| 22:49.30 | fruitwerks | is slowly building a 28tb raid6 NAS |
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| 22:49.40 | carew | Kyle__: want to be a sysadmin myself |
| 22:49.46 | karsten | HermanDE_: upload your stuff onto an FTP server and let the IntarTubes back it up for you. |
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| 22:50.03 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: Tasty. Home-built? |
| 22:50.14 | fruitwerks | Kyle__ yes |
| 22:50.37 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: How are you hooking up all those drives? eSATA? FireWire? |
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| 22:51.29 | fruitwerks | http://www.circotech.com/rm-4140-ra414-16-bay-hot-swap-sata-4u-ra414-rackmount-computer-case.html - haven't decided on a controller yet, I just ordered a crappy atom board and going with software mirror for now (2tb total) |
| 22:51.38 | carew | fruitwerks: woow |
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| 22:51.48 | Kyle__ | carew: It seems easier to find a few contract jobs on craigslist and such, than finding a full-time job as a sysadmin. Try that first :) |
| 22:52.16 | krfkeith | hello, I was just wondering, because it wasn't clear, do standard .deb debian packages work on debian crush? or must they be specially built? |
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| 22:52.34 | krfkeith | assuming there aren't missing dependencies of course |
| 22:52.38 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: Whew. Does that have a backplane for all those drives? |
| 22:52.45 | carew | Kyle__: sorry i am not from the us or uk |
| 22:52.52 | krfkeith | (I know crush doesn't have Perl) |
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| 22:53.10 | Kyle__ | carew: Ahh. Probably the same situation wherever you are. Contract work till you've got a ncie resume & some references. |
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| 22:53.24 | themill | krfkeith: I suspect you'd do better to ask in #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
| 22:53.28 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: That is a very nice box. |
| 22:53.47 | mocikz | HermanDE_: what techology allows trivially to take on linux OS and run it inside another linux host |
| 22:53.47 | krfkeith | themill: thank you, I didn't realize there was a special channel! |
| 22:53.52 | thomas_ | re do you know if chromium-bsu have his own environment? |
| 22:53.52 | fruitwerks | yeah it has a backplane, going with sata, sas is too expensive |
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| 22:54.14 | thomas_ | because y try to have accent |
| 22:54.15 | mocikz | HermanDE_: the system that will be moved and run ans guest will be a server (so no need to access real hardware etc) |
| 22:54.36 | mocikz | HermanDE_: I could use qemu, but it is really slow. I prefer something with good performance |
| 22:54.37 | carew | fruitwerks: idd very nice for 600$ |
| 22:54.38 | Kyle__ | fruitwerks: Definately. Humm. I may see if I can convince my boss to get one of those for me. Right now his data is spread across an array of external firewire boxes. |
| 22:54.42 | thomas_ | environment of chromium-bsu:utf-8 |
| 22:54.58 | fruitwerks | carew - got a used one for $100, no PSU / Mobo |
| 22:55.06 | fruitwerks | got some work to do :) |
| 22:55.14 | Kyle__ | mocikz: If you have a modern processor, KVM may be good. Otherwise virtualbox is much faster than qemu, for systems without hardware virtualization support. |
| 22:55.23 | carew | fruitwerks: does the mb needs to be buyed seperate? |
| 22:55.34 | thomas_ | kvm is exelent... |
| 22:55.50 | thomas_ | documentation is good and man page too |
| 22:55.51 | carew | fruitwerks: or any other parts? |
| 22:55.59 | mocikz | Kyle__: guest and host are 64bit; host is very modern quadcore |
| 22:56.00 | thomas_ | web doc sorry |
| 22:56.09 | Kyle__ | thomas_: Unfortunately my Dell labs can't use it :/ a single processor revision too old to have the support. |
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| 22:56.11 | fruitwerks | carew - yeah no mobo comes standard... That 7x7in atom board will fit nicely in there lmao |
| 22:56.12 | thomas_ | but i don't know virtual box |
| 22:56.23 | mocikz | Kyle__: I want the guest to run in SMP 4 cpus, to possibly utlize all 4 cpus of hoest |
| 22:56.39 | thomas_ | Gnégnégné Kyle__ |
| 22:56.43 | fruitwerks | anyway I gotta go.. |
| 22:56.49 | carew | fruitwerks: what board is it if I may ask? |
| 22:56.50 | woodworks | trying to install php-doc through aptitude, it always want to install php5-cli with it - i don't want this pkg, is there a way to force just install one pkgZ? |
| 22:56.53 | Kyle__ | mocikz: virtualbox is easy to use, and can use hardware virtualization support as well. KVM is lighter though, and easier to install. |
| 22:57.26 | carew | fruitwerks: ok |
| 22:58.05 | Kyle__ | Humm, quitting time. |
| 22:58.08 | Kyle__ | waves |
| 22:59.17 | fruitwerks | carew - some asrock pos - I'm broke right now, but I maxed out my poweredge |
| 22:59.42 | fruitwerks | so I need something to grow on |
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| 22:59.45 | carew | and the board supports that much derives? |
| 23:00.03 | carew | *drives |
| 23:00.10 | fruitwerks | it can do two drives - it is temporary, when I get a new board, I'll put that in my car or something |
| 23:00.21 | carew | fruitwerks: lol :p |
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| 23:01.02 | fruitwerks | I know I won't find anything that will hold two raid cards and 4 nics... sounds like I will need a $1200 raid card |
| 23:01.05 | carew | fruitwerks: but you need to buy a board that supports that many drives? or does that work? |
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| 23:01.38 | carew | fruitwerks: aha with a raid card that supports that many drives |
| 23:01.46 | carew | fruitwerks: ok, just wondering |
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| 23:06.22 | dfinn | is there a way from within a sudo session to find out which user initiated the session? |
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| 23:07.46 | woodworks | hey woodworks, RTFM nobody knows aptitude in here! |
| 23:08.05 | SerajewelKS | is anyone aware of an issue-tracking system, whether it be in debian or not, that allows clients to interact with issue reports entirely via email, and don't need to register any sort of account to add comments to issues? |
| 23:08.48 | SerajewelKS | dfinn: you would have to walk up the process tree from where you are and find sudo's parent process and look at its real uid |
| 23:08.53 | AimHere | That sounds rather labour intensive, given how much spam there is on the net |
| 23:09.13 | gusnan | woodworks, --without-recommends |
| 23:09.29 | SerajewelKS | AimHere: debian has successfully operated an email-based bug tracking system for how many years now? |
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| 23:09.52 | SerajewelKS | AimHere: haha i may have just answered my own question... hmm... |
| 23:09.54 | AimHere | Oh right, email based. Fair enough |
| 23:09.58 | AimHere | I was about to say |
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| 23:11.23 | carew | HermanDE_: still here? |
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| 23:13.13 | carew | with backuppc can i do backup's of mysql databases? |
| 23:14.00 | tharkun | carew: mysqldump is a tool you need to research |
| 23:15.12 | carew | tharkun: i know mysqldump can do that but can backuppc do that? or do i have to create a cronjob that creates a dump and then back it up? |
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| 23:16.53 | tharkun | carew: from apt-cache show backuppc " * and more to discover in the manual..." |
| 23:17.03 | woodworks | thank you mr. gusnan |
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| 23:18.48 | thomas_ | have a nice night |
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| 23:23.55 | ernst | is there a way to remove a package if the prerm script fails? |
| 23:25.45 | qq- | !postrm |
| 23:25.46 | dpkg | it has been said that postrm is /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package name>.postrm and this is where most of the package problems appear. Edit the script and comment out offending lines or just NULL the file. |
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| 23:28.21 | ernst | ty |
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| 23:56.21 | void9 | greetings debian wizards. i am developing an in-house package and find a reboot necessary at the end of the install. how to accomplish, yet allow various dependency trees? bad ideas: (A) sleep and poll process list, (B) set rc2.d daemon to continue dpkg if reboot occurs before all packages configured, and (C) just make sure it's the last package in the list |
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| 23:56.49 | void9 | are there any good ideas for this? |
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