| 00:00.01 | TJ_ADOG | if I can do that... then I can do the apt install |
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| 00:01.13 | qq- | TJ_ADOG, just download 1 -4 DVDs , and y'll be clean , no more needs of net or so |
| 00:02.26 | TJ_ADOG | well thats an idea :) will take me awhile to download 4 dvd's tho so probably not gonna try that tonight |
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| 00:15.27 | j3rg | any hardware junkies here |
| 00:15.42 | j3rg | ? |
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| 00:29.13 | unkmar | http://www.phaeronix.net appears to be non functional at the moment. |
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| 00:30.33 | lompas | http://pastebin.com/mHFuDzfH Can someone translate me this error I get in the terminal? |
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| 00:31.54 | lompas | I get this while running thunderbird (./thunderbird) |
| 00:34.12 | ampex | lompas: are you running it as root? |
| 00:34.29 | lompas | ampex, Yes |
| 00:34.40 | ampex | lompas: why?? |
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| 00:35.12 | lompas | ampex, I installed something earlier and was still on the root terminal. |
| 00:35.18 | lompas | ampex, newbie :) |
| 00:35.33 | ampex | don't run apps as root |
| 00:35.35 | ampex | problem solved |
| 00:35.40 | lompas | ampex, I will try running it out of root and see |
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| 00:36.24 | unkmar | will jump into a whole because likely nothing will ever function as well as it did before the reinstall. |
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| 00:38.06 | lompas | ampex, I don't get the error anymore, thank you and excuse me. |
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| 00:40.15 | tog0g | hey, i'm trying to make a bootable persistent Debian usb key by using unetbootin, so i've already created a 1GB partition for all the system files and a 7GB casper-rw partition, inside the 1GB partition i have set up a live Debian system with Unetbootin and it works quite well, except the fact that it is not persisten yet, but adding "persistent" to the "kernel" line in the syslinux.cfg did not change anything, but as the live system is already run |
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| 00:48.18 | tharkun | I have this mtr package installed, actually mtr-tiny but i didn't install it for some specific reason, how can i find out when and why it was installed (obviously the why would be a dependency) |
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| 00:51.05 | abrotman | tharkun: aptitude why foo |
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| 00:51.38 | foxtrot | hi |
| 00:51.45 | foxtrot | im using a 1.4ghz pentium M processor |
| 00:51.52 | foxtrot | and firefox is using 99.9% of CPU |
| 00:52.00 | foxtrot | why do you guys think that is |
| 00:52.14 | foxtrot | maybe there is java on the site and i dont have java support? |
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| 00:53.28 | cafuego | foxtrot: No. If you have no java, the java plugin can't use cpu cycles. |
| 00:53.30 | abrotman | firefox ? |
| 00:53.34 | tharkun | abrotman: and the "when"? |
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| 00:53.40 | abrotman | tharkun: dpkg.log |
| 00:54.01 | cafuego | foxtrot: Do you have any firefox extensions installed? |
| 00:54.09 | steph2 | bonsoir! |
| 00:54.09 | abrotman | foxtrot: firefox or iceweasel ? |
| 00:54.38 | foxtrot | iceweasel that is |
| 00:54.45 | abrotman | foxtrot: flash installed ? |
| 00:54.54 | foxtrot | i just aptitude install |
| 00:54.56 | foxtrot | iceweasel |
| 00:54.58 | foxtrot | thats it |
| 00:55.03 | tharkun | abrotman: thx, nothing usefull at all but what the heck a usefull nifty prg |
| 00:55.19 | abrotman | tharkun: then probably during install |
| 00:55.44 | lompas | abrotman, Another thing, how do you update a debian system since I have no update manager here. aptitude update? |
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| 00:56.56 | abrotman | lompas: aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade .. and if anything is held back, figure out why, then do a full-upgrade |
| 00:57.16 | lompas | abrotman, Ok, thanks so much for your help. |
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| 01:02.14 | scorphus | hello everyone |
| 01:03.19 | scorphus | if I set my cronjob to output to say /var/log/job.log will it be rotated as with the other log files in there? thanks |
| 01:03.58 | abrotman | doubtful .. but you can set it to be |
| 01:04.50 | scorphus | yeah, looking at the logrotate manpage |
| 01:05.50 | scorphus | I love Debian's logrotate.d, conf.d, etc |
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| 01:07.01 | abrotman | there's another way .. if i can remember the command |
| 01:07.16 | scorphus | I can wait |
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| 01:11.48 | abrotman | maybe it changed in squeeze |
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| 01:13.29 | foxtrot | whats a lightweight web browser |
| 01:14.16 | qq- | lynx |
| 01:14.18 | Paul_E | how can I purge all deinstalled packages? |
| 01:14.35 | foxtrot | a lightweight graphical gui web browser |
| 01:14.42 | badipod | surf |
| 01:14.44 | abrotman | Paul_E: dpkg + xargs + dpkg |
| 01:14.50 | jordanm | midori? |
| 01:14.53 | badipod | shrugs |
| 01:15.55 | Paul_E | abrotman: just type that in ssh? |
| 01:15.55 | abrotman | no |
| 01:15.55 | scorphus | abrotman: this server runs flawlessly on lenny |
| 01:16.24 | scorphus | tell me what should it try |
| 01:16.25 | abrotman | scorphus: syslogd-listfiles .. it's different in squeeze now |
| 01:16.30 | scorphus | s/it/I/ sorry |
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| 01:17.30 | Paul_E | abrotman: I didn't think so ;) |
| 01:17.46 | abrotman | scorphus: so maybe it would be easier to create your own logrotate file in logrotate.d |
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| 01:17.57 | scorphus | which I already did |
| 01:17.59 | abrotman | s/easier/better/ |
| 01:18.00 | aaroninfidel | anyone here use neatx? |
| 01:18.06 | abrotman | which is what? |
| 01:18.15 | scorphus | thanks, abrotman |
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| 01:31.40 | scorphus | Debian rocks, thanks! |
| 01:31.47 | scorphus | bye |
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| 01:45.45 | aryaeskan | Is there a way to install gimp in debian without gnome dependencies? |
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| 01:54.39 | Metatron | quote from gimp site "Not really. It doesn't use the GNOME application framework. The only thing it has in common is GTK+. GIMP can optionally use gnome-vfs, allowing you to load and edit images from remote servers." |
| 01:55.06 | aryaeskan | yah, but when I do an apt-get install all the gnome libraries are listed as dependencies |
| 01:55.28 | Metatron | probably not be able to get away with it |
| 01:55.38 | tuvyz | isn't this page outdated? http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide i don't think hal (or its fdi files) still affect x, does it? |
| 01:56.16 | jpinx-eeepc | aryaeskan: try --without-recommends or so |
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| 01:57.05 | aryaeskan | thanks, I'll try |
| 01:57.19 | jpinx-eeepc | aryaeskan: man aptitude |
| 01:57.53 | jpinx-eeepc | aryaeskan: aptitude is recommended now - not apt-get |
| 01:57.59 | Metatron | maybe compile yourself, with WITHOUT_HAL=yes WITHOUT_DBUS=yes WITHOUT_GNOME=yes in your make.conf |
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| 01:59.13 | aryaeskan | thanks, I didn't know that |
| 01:59.21 | Metatron | ive neer tried though, so i dunno |
| 01:59.54 | Metatron | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/xsoft/gimp.html has some info |
| 02:00.20 | cafuego | Don't do that. |
| 02:00.40 | abrotman | aryaeskan: did you try the -R option ? |
| 02:00.40 | cafuego | Use apt-get source gimp and edit the deb source, then build a custom deb file. |
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| 02:01.22 | abrotman | or just not care? |
| 02:01.42 | jordanm | tuvyz: fully in use in current stable |
| 02:02.06 | Metatron | no just telling you i havent tried, i have some systems with out gnome, be interesting if u got it to float |
| 02:02.22 | tuvyz | jordanm: ok. i was referring to squeeze |
| 02:02.44 | jordanm | ,depends gimp |
| 02:02.46 | judd | gimp -- depends: libgimp2.0 (>= 2.4.7), libgimp2.0 (<< 2.4.7-z), gimp-data (>= 2.4.7), gimp-data (<< 2.4.7-z), libaa1 (>= 1.4p5), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.18), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.71), libexif12, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgtkhtml2-0 |
| 02:02.48 | judd | (>= 2.11.1), libhal1 (>= 0.5.8.1), libjpeg62, liblcms1 (>= 1.15-1), libmng1 (>= 1.0.3-1), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.20.3), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), libpoppler-glib3, librsvg2-2 (>= 2.18.1), libtiff4, libwmf0.2-7 (>= 0.2.8.4), libx11-6, libxext6, libxmu6, libxpm4, zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4). |
| 02:02.56 | Metatron | woo nelly |
| 02:03.14 | abrotman | but did he try -R ? |
| 02:03.49 | jordanm | tuvyz: udev |
| 02:04.23 | aryaeskan | thanks, -R worked |
| 02:04.58 | aryaeskan | One of the recommended libraries must have required gnome or something |
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| 02:07.04 | abrotman | judd: recommends gimp |
| 02:07.05 | judd | gimp -- recommends: gimp-gnomevfs | gimp-libcurl, gimp-python (>= 2.4.0-1). |
| 02:07.19 | abrotman | i'll guess gimp-gnomevfs cascades |
| 02:08.46 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions compcache |
| 02:08.46 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'compcache' was found. |
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| 02:40.45 | vc_vc_Vc | hi to all, any have video ATI/Nvidia HD? |
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| 02:45.04 | abrotman | lots of people |
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| 02:54.56 | tuvyz | since hal's fdi files started being ignored by X, i have not managed to get two-finger emulation working again, even after duplicating my fdi settings in xorg.conf |
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| 02:59.11 | emergion | Hello how can I update my 5.0.1 to the latest? |
| 02:59.41 | abrotman | emergion: if all your sources point at lenny, aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade |
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| 02:59.53 | emergion | abrotman, thanks |
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| 03:00.04 | sigmonsays | Man oh Man; WTF is debian so old for. Anyone know how to get libguestfs on debian 5 lenny? Should I backport everything? |
| 03:00.15 | karlpinc | abrotman: Wouldn't safe-upgrade work too? |
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| 03:00.32 | abrotman | not always, for instance it won't upgrade the kernel to a new ABI |
| 03:01.19 | karlpinc | abrotman: Those kind of changes are made to stable? (Just curious.) |
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| 03:01.51 | abrotman | karlpinc: yes, like linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 to linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 .. that's the kernel abi change |
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| 03:03.20 | innociv | Errr I have a log file that's 25mb. How can I empty it out rather than delete? |
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| 03:06.18 | emergion | innociv, cat /dev/null > file.log but I really don't think its a good idea it could break things you should be using a log rotate system |
| 03:06.32 | innociv | break things how? |
| 03:07.10 | emergion | innociv, I guess it depends on the log file :) |
| 03:07.14 | emergion | What is it for ? |
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| 03:10.15 | emergion | innociv, I think you just have to make sure the process that owns the log is not writing to it and once you play around with the file the permissions are the exact same and you should be fine :) |
| 03:10.17 | innociv | lighttpd |
| 03:13.08 | emergion | Ok well that will definitely clear the log file, if its not a critical server just give it a lash |
| 03:13.10 | emergion | lol |
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| 03:23.06 | emergion | Anyone know how to fix this ? libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-18lenny4) but 2.10.2-6 is to be installed |
| 03:23.21 | emergion | innociv, did it work ? |
| 03:24.28 | innociv | Yes |
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| 03:24.59 | innociv | ty |
| 03:25.53 | emergion | Excellent :) |
| 03:25.55 | emergion | no |
| 03:25.57 | emergion | np |
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| 03:37.29 | emergion | abrotman, I did what you told me but my debian version is still 5.0.4? |
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| 03:44.06 | int80_h | how can I identify which debian I have an account on. Not sure if it is Lenny or Etch |
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| 03:45.11 | epsilon | ./etc/debian-version |
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| 03:45.33 | epsilon | or check the /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:45.57 | sweetpi | _version |
| 03:46.14 | int80_h | thank ye |
| 03:46.15 | emergion | If I run a full-upgrade should that not update my entire debian version to the latest stable ? |
| 03:46.18 | int80_h | 5.0.4 |
| 03:46.29 | epsilon | lenny |
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| 03:46.37 | int80_h | thanks guys :) |
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| 03:47.20 | epsilon | emergion: depends what you have written in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 03:48.05 | emergion | epsilon, Oh right someone in here yesterday told me my machine is out of date because I am not > 5.0.4 but I just did a full upgrade so |
| 03:48.15 | emergion | Latest packages |
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| 03:49.58 | emergion | Oh right I see what happened here nm :) |
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| 04:03.56 | emergion | when running aptitude full-update should that update my kernel as well ? |
| 04:04.30 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: no |
| 04:04.40 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, ok |
| 04:04.55 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: you can put a later kernel in with backports |
| 04:05.18 | jpinx-eeepc | like 2.6.32 - as I did ;) |
| 04:06.18 | emergion | linux-image is the package I am looking for ? |
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| 04:06.55 | jpinx-eeepc | !kernel |
| 04:06.57 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, linux-next: next-20100623, mainline 2.6: 2.6.35-rc3, snapshot 2.6: 2.6.35-rc2-git6, stable 2.6: 2.6.34 , stable 2.6.33: 2.6.33.5 , stable 2.6.32: 2.6.32.15 , stable 2.6.31: 2.6.31.13 , stable 2.6.27: 2.6.27.47 , stable 2.4.37: 2.4.37.9 |
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| 04:07.30 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions kernel-image |
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| 04:07.32 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'kernel-image' was found. |
| 04:07.39 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions linux-image |
| 04:07.41 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'linux-image' was found. |
| 04:07.46 | jpinx-eeepc | bah! |
| 04:07.53 | emergion | hmmm |
| 04:07.55 | emergion | wtf |
| 04:07.59 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: sorry - I know there's a factoid |
| 04:08.03 | qq- | , kernels |
| 04:08.05 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 04:08.31 | jpinx-eeepc | damn contrary bots ! ;) |
| 04:08.32 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/linux-image-2.6-686 ? |
| 04:09.06 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: I installed lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 with no hassle |
| 04:09.33 | jpinx-eeepc | there was a firmware issue for my external wifi, but that was also no hassle to fix |
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| 04:10.58 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, ok dependency problems do I need to get all the backport files or something ? |
| 04:11.27 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: aptitude should resolve those for you |
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| 04:11.49 | jpinx-eeepc | aptitude -t lenny-backports <package> |
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| 04:12.13 | jpinx-eeepc | you can run it with -s first to see what it's going to do |
| 04:12.38 | emergion | sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686_2.6.32+27~bpo50+1_i386.deb |
| 04:12.40 | emergion | ? |
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| 04:12.54 | emergion | just got that ! Current status: 0 broken [-1]. |
| 04:13.06 | jpinx-eeepc | no |
| 04:13.20 | emergion | Sorry mate its my second day playing with aptitude and dpkg |
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| 04:14.16 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: why are you updating the kernel? do you have hardware issues? |
| 04:14.52 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, No just making sure things are all secure |
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| 04:15.09 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: then stay with lenny |
| 04:15.28 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, Ok sure so if I do a full-update |
| 04:15.30 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: if it ain't broken - don't fix it ;) |
| 04:15.41 | emergion | that will ensure my kernel is updated to the latest secure/stable version |
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| 04:15.56 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: aptitude update and aptitude safe-upgrade is all I ever do |
| 04:16.09 | karlpinc | emergion: So long as you've got security.debian.org in your sources.list. |
| 04:16.11 | jpinx-eeepc | but I do it once a week to keep security tight |
| 04:16.32 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: pastebin your sources list |
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| 04:18.26 | emergion | is that the golden line ?deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 04:18.45 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: looks good :) |
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| 04:19.15 | qq- | emergion, and the main line is ? |
| 04:19.59 | qq- | just in case .. |
| 04:20.27 | emergion | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.27 | emergion | haha |
| 04:20.45 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: that looks good too |
| 04:20.58 | kingsley | How do you send faxes from the command line? |
| 04:20.59 | emergion | Nice I am really liking aptitude |
| 04:21.20 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: if you really need to have some newer versions of packages read the instructions at backports.org |
| 04:21.29 | karlpinc | emergion: See also cron-apt and http://pastebin.com/iB4QpLY8 |
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| 04:21.35 | emergion | Ok here is one huge problem I have right now |
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| 04:21.59 | Parabola | hey |
| 04:22.08 | Parabola | can someone please verify this cronjob for me |
| 04:22.19 | karlpinc | kingsley: Using hylafax's faxsend? |
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| 04:22.20 | Parabola | 0 22 * * 1-5 /vmfs/volumes/da <-- should run mon-friday at 10pm |
| 04:22.29 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, sudo apt-get install libc6-dev |
| 04:22.55 | jpinx-eeepc | !why aptitude |
| 04:22.56 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). |
| 04:23.03 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: ââ |
| 04:23.31 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: and why do you need that lib? |
| 04:23.32 | karlpinc | Parabola: It does not look like you've enough columns there. |
| 04:23.49 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, Oh so I see :) |
| 04:24.06 | emergion | I thought apt was an abbreviation of aptitude lol |
| 04:24.12 | emergion | apt-install = aptitude install |
| 04:24.21 | emergion | sorry apt-get |
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| 04:25.08 | emergion | I was an emerge and yum guy before this |
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| 04:25.45 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: it's ok - you will recover after a treatment of aptitude ;) |
| 04:26.19 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: but why do you need that lib ? |
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| 04:27.11 | emergion | lol I hope so its killing me right now |
| 04:27.12 | qq- | jpinx-eeepc, that's the question ! |
| 04:27.24 | emergion | I just need to install ruby1.8-dev |
| 04:28.03 | qq- | aptitude install ruby1.8-dev |
| 04:28.05 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions ruby1.8-dev |
| 04:28.06 | judd | ruby1.8-dev -- etch: 1.8.5-4etch5; etch-security: 1.8.5-4etch5; etch-backports: 1.8.7.72-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.8.7.72-3lenny1; lenny-security: 1.8.7.72-3lenny1; squeeze: 1.8.7.249-3; sid: 1.8.7.249-4 |
| 04:28.08 | emergion | If I cannot get that installed I might as well install something else as its all this server has to do |
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| 04:28.31 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: what qq- said ;) |
| 04:28.51 | jpinx-eeepc | aptitude will do all the depends for you - let it do the work |
| 04:28.57 | emergion | cool :) |
| 04:29.01 | emergion | aptitude is ultimate |
| 04:29.03 | emergion | lol |
| 04:29.14 | emergion | just fixed up so many problems in one hit |
| 04:29.18 | karlpinc | emergion: (Although why you'd want the -dev package for a server is hard to say.) |
| 04:29.24 | emergion | (all problems caused by my noobness) |
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| 04:29.48 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: it's a good policy to run aptitude -s install<whatever> first to see what it's about to do |
| 04:29.48 | emergion | karlpinc, some gems cannot run without ruby1.8-dev I think the install scripts need it |
| 04:30.10 | emergion | and ruby1.8-dev needs libc-dev |
| 04:30.29 | karlpinc | jpinx-eeepc: I never bother. You can always uninstall/purge. |
| 04:30.31 | qq- | , depends ruby1.8-dev |
| 04:30.33 | judd | ruby1.8-dev -- depends: libruby1.8 (= 1.8.7.72-3lenny1), libc6-dev. |
| 04:30.48 | jpinx-eeepc | karlpinc: I'm scared :p |
| 04:31.37 | qq- | !calm down jpinx-eeepc |
| 04:31.45 | jpinx-eeepc | karlpinc: on my eeepc I am pushed for space and some things try to drag int he whole of gnome :( |
| 04:32.29 | emergion | argh it died |
| 04:32.57 | emergion | http://www.pastebin.org/355751 |
| 04:34.13 | karlpinc | pastebinit always gives me back "http://www.pastebin.org" no matter how I feed it a file. What am I doing wrong? |
| 04:34.57 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: you have much deeper issues I fear |
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| 04:35.16 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: how long ago did you install debian? |
| 04:35.43 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, no i had this before I am sure |
| 04:35.48 | emergion | When I first installed it |
| 04:35.54 | emergion | which was 3 weeks ago |
| 04:36.21 | emergion | I installed apache and some web-app and did not touch it until today when I did aptitude full-update |
| 04:36.24 | jpinx-eeepc | there are some unre4solved things in there - the details of which I don't know |
| 04:36.54 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: did you do aptitude update and then aptitude safe-upgrade? |
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| 04:39.07 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, no but my machine is seriously messed up now |
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| 04:39.15 | karlpinc | emergion: Why are packages being downgraded. Have you messed with sources.list? |
| 04:39.22 | qq- | karlpinc, pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 04:39.38 | emergion | karlpinc, no that was aptitudes solution for installed libc6-dev |
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| 04:39.48 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: do "aptitude update" |
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| 04:40.21 | karlpinc | emergion: Have you been installing random .debs? |
| 04:40.39 | emergion | karlpinc, no the only time I tried it failed |
| 04:40.41 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, ok don |
| 04:40.48 | emergion | *done |
| 04:41.12 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: did it get anything? -- now do "aptitude safe-upgrade" |
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| 04:41.25 | tuvyz | is impressed by anyone who manages to mess up a debian system |
| 04:41.52 | jpinx-eeepc | tuvyz: yep - that takes real skillz ;) |
| 04:41.55 | karlpinc | qq-: Well I didn't do the -b, but I figured the default would be ok. Maybe it would work if I gave it a site.... I don't care enough to try again this hot minute. But thanks. |
| 04:41.55 | emergion | dies with libc6: Depends: libc-bin (= 2.10.2-6) but it is not installable |
| 04:42.24 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: pastbin the output |
| 04:42.27 | qq- | karlpinc, np |
| 04:43.07 | emergion | lol I did not break anything aptitude asked me if I wanted to downgrade my libc6 |
| 04:43.08 | emergion | not me |
| 04:43.08 | jpinx-eeepc | karlpinc: man pastebinit llists the usable sites |
| 04:43.10 | qq- | , versions libc-bin |
| 04:43.11 | judd | libc-bin -- squeeze: 2.11.1-3; sid: 2.11.2-1 |
| 04:43.12 | tuvyz | emergion: you seem to be mixing up debian versions: stable, testing, unstable |
| 04:43.23 | qq- | , versions libc |
| 04:43.26 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libc' was found. |
| 04:43.43 | emergion | http://pastebin.org/355759 |
| 04:43.49 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: I asked you for a complete pastebin of your sources list too |
| 04:44.06 | emergion | I have not touched them but here they come |
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| 04:44.48 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, http://pastebin.org/355760 on the bottom of the paste |
| 04:45.42 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: what have you installed by hand? |
| 04:45.44 | qq- | , Depends libc6 |
| 04:45.45 | judd | libc6 -- depends: libgcc1. |
| 04:46.14 | emergion | lol WTF nothing I don't eve know how to install something by hand |
| 04:46.18 | qq- | emergion, you installed libc6 from squeeze .. |
| 04:46.33 | tuvyz | emergion: did you install a deb manually with dpkg? |
| 04:47.03 | qq- | , Depends libc6 --release squeeze |
| 04:47.04 | judd | libc6 -- depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.1-3), libgcc1. |
| 04:47.10 | emergion | not that I remember |
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| 04:47.25 | qq- | , Depends libc6 --release lenny |
| 04:47.25 | judd | libc6 -- depends: libgcc1. |
| 04:47.34 | qq- | emergion, ^^^ |
| 04:48.09 | qq- | and your error is : libc6: Depends: libc-bin (= 2.10.2-6) but it is not installable |
| 04:48.52 | emergion | hmmm |
| 04:48.54 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: you've been messing with *something* |
| 04:49.20 | emergion | Well I don't remember going out of my way installing .debs |
| 04:49.32 | emergion | I picked debian so I would not have to do that |
| 04:49.53 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: ok - what did you install by any method - of any kind ? |
| 04:50.01 | qq- | emergion, this system was installed more 2-3 months ago |
| 04:50.04 | emergion | You guys have told me |
| 04:50.45 | qq- | when libc6 was 2.10 .. |
| 04:50.53 | emergion | All I have installed is apache and a package called rt |
| 04:50.55 | qq- | in squeeze |
| 04:51.10 | qq- | !rt |
| 04:51.11 | dpkg | [rt] Real-time applications have operational deadlines between some triggering event and the application's response to that event. To meet these operational deadlines, programmers use real-time operating systems (RTOS) on which the maximum response time can be calculated or measured realiable for the given application and environment. |
| 04:51.18 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: how did you install those |
| 04:51.24 | emergion | apt-get |
| 04:51.30 | emergion | that is the wrong rt |
| 04:51.43 | qq- | and changed the sources to squeeze |
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| 04:52.05 | emergion | the only deb I tried to install waas sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686_2.6.32+27~bpo50+1_i386.deb |
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| 04:52.13 | qq- | emergion, ok ... go reinstall Debian |
| 04:52.41 | jpinx-eeepc | ouch! go and reinstall stable and stop messing ! ;) |
| 04:52.48 | qq- | problem solved |
| 04:53.06 | qq- | !next |
| 04:53.06 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 04:53.20 | emergion | rofl wtf |
| 04:54.05 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: you tried to install and probably half succedded with a kernel that is not right |
| 04:54.37 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: so your install is borked beyond reasonable repair - much quicker and easie to start agains |
| 04:54.38 | qq- | aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686_2.6.32+27~bpo50+1_i386.deb won't install that file !! |
| 04:55.28 | jpinx-eeepc | qq-: it wasn't even that good - he used "apt-install" ;) |
| 04:55.44 | qq- | even .. |
| 04:56.05 | jpinx-eeepc | goes into a chroot to see what it breaks |
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| 05:04.44 | tuvyz | emergion: what is the command causing the error? and what is the exact error message? |
| 05:05.18 | qq- | libc6: Depends: libc-bin (= 2.10.2-6) but it is not installable |
| 05:05.23 | emergion | nm it looks like I fixed it it was missing /sbin/ldconfig so I got it from out of the deb package and pasted it back |
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| 05:06.12 | emergion | looks good :) |
| 05:06.13 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: how had you removed it? |
| 05:06.26 | qq- | ... |
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| 05:07.11 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: chopping and pasting the system is a guaranttee of broken-ness :) |
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| 05:07.39 | emergion | nah its fine now what happened was it broke half way through the down grade of libc (which I new was a bad idea) |
| 05:07.46 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: let aptitude do it's thing |
| 05:08.01 | emergion | so then locales could not work because ldconfig was gone |
| 05:08.15 | jpinx-eeepc | downgrading is not usually possible at all - how did you end up with a newer version than that in lenny? |
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| 05:08.38 | emergion | lol stop asking me I don't know you guys have been feeding my commands |
| 05:08.49 | emergion | I have just been executing them |
| 05:09.25 | emergion | Anyway thanks for all the help I now know about aptitude and its elite ways |
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| 05:39.59 | BiGViC | is there a reason debian is faster with flash that ubuntu wow amazing flash works perfect really I thought flash just really sucked ass in linux but it still sucks but it's running fine on debian perfect :) |
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| 05:44.24 | sigmonsays | ever hear punctuation ? |
| 05:45.05 | jpinx-eeepc | whaddayameanpunctuationIdontevenusespaces |
| 05:45.37 | sigmonsays | dares to ask when a semi colon is to be used... |
| 05:45.37 | k\t | jpinx-eeepc you forgot imsofnleetlulz |
| 05:45.57 | BiGViC | sigmonsays: I will take that into consideration next time it was a quick type.. -_- |
| 05:45.57 | jpinx-eeepc | sigmonsays: ::: |
| 05:46.06 | jpinx-eeepc | ::: |
| 05:46.21 | jpinx-eeepc | :ping |
| 05:46.35 | jpinx-eeepc | meh - it used to call a bot |
| 05:46.54 | sigmonsays | don't mind me; i'm just hatin |
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| 05:49.53 | guzu | hello all |
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| 05:50.07 | guzu | how do i list all packages available, related to audacious? |
| 05:50.36 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions audacious |
| 05:50.38 | judd | audacious -- etch: 1.2.2-4; lenny: 1.5.1-4; sid: 2.3-2; squeeze: 2.3-2 |
| 05:50.48 | jpinx-eeepc | ,depends audacious |
| 05:50.49 | judd | audacious -- depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libaudclient1 (= 1.5.1-4), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.71), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libmcs1, libmowgli1 (>= 0.5.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.20.3), libsamplerate0, libsm6, libx11-6, audacious-plugins (>= 1.5.1), audacious-plugins (<< 2.0~), dbus, |
| 05:50.51 | judd | libaudid3tag1 (= 1.5.1-4), gtk2-engines-pixbuf. |
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| 05:51.03 | jpinx-eeepc | guzu: will that do? |
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| 05:52.06 | guzu | jpinx-eeepc: don't know :) will -plugins this add mp3/etc support? |
| 05:52.21 | guzu | jpinx-eeepc: will -plugins add mp3/etc support? |
| 05:52.50 | jpinx-eeepc | guzu: dunno - take a look at their website |
| 05:53.19 | guzu | jpinx-eeepc: thank you very much |
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| 06:02.46 | inspiron | Does anyone know how to use sed to remove anything but the version number of the kernel? I have a list with strings such as linux-headers-2.6.??-??-generic ...... and I only want to keep the 2.6.??-?? |
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| 06:04.51 | nsadmin | how do you install grub2 assuming to a different drive than it was installed before? if I lost my boot could I use a live cd? |
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| 06:05.20 | globaleast | linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 06:05.41 | jpinx-eeepc | nsadmin: you can boot with a live cd and chroot into th system and reinstall grub |
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| 06:19.41 | alsk | how with apt-get do i install all of the suggested packages i ignored ? |
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| 06:22.36 | jpinx-eeepc | alsk: depends on how you ignored them. Were they witheld recommends or what? |
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| 06:24.57 | alsk | nop |
| 06:25.08 | alsk | i just didn't install them when i installed the packages that recommended them |
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| 06:27.05 | acathur | aptitude --with-suggests install ,,, ?? |
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| 06:28.46 | alsk | but i dont know which packages |
| 06:28.50 | alsk | i want recomeded for all i got |
| 06:29.12 | jpinx-eeepc | alsk: when did you install debian? |
| 06:29.34 | jpinx-eeepc | it might be quicker to re-install from scratch |
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| 06:30.09 | jpinx-eeepc | otherwise you have to go through every package installed and look at the recommends and suggests |
| 06:31.47 | alsk | i see |
| 06:31.55 | Bushmills | you could loop with a script through your installed packages, execute apt-cache depends $package for each, sed -n for Recommends: and print the remainder of the line, pipe all to sort -u |
| 06:32.00 | alsk | i can basically parse the Packages file of DPKG no ? |
| 06:32.03 | alsk | ok, thanks |
| 06:32.28 | Bushmills | depending on whether you want to manually intervene, you use that list as base, or aptitude install $(all of those above) |
| 06:33.27 | jpinx-eeepc | still thinks it'd be quicker to re-install |
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| 06:33.43 | Bushmills | i actually doubt that |
| 06:34.10 | Bushmills | that's a one-liner. |
| 06:34.17 | jpinx-eeepc | Bushmills: only depends on how much he ignored and how much of "everything" he now selects |
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| 06:35.06 | jpinx-eeepc | and how good he is a scripting, sed, etc |
| 06:35.07 | Bushmills | whatever he is missing, needs to be installed with a new installation anyway. |
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| 06:36.31 | Salvad1 | Hello. I am running Debian Stable in Virtualbox. Is there some way to change the screen resolution?. Is bigger than my host system screen resolution and is difficult to use. |
| 06:36.45 | Bushmills | if he's not that good with scripting, sed, etc, he benefits more from learning a bit about that than he learns from reinstalling |
| 06:37.13 | Bushmills | Salvad1: under X? |
| 06:37.18 | Salvad1 | Yes. |
| 06:37.21 | Bushmills | xrandr |
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| 06:38.10 | Bushmills | or, create an xorg.conf |
| 06:39.09 | alsk | bushi know and good idea :) |
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| 06:42.59 | Salvad1 | I just want to set a resolution of 1024*768. |
| 06:43.09 | mmc | why isn't there an option to make dpkg-buildpackage install build dependencies for me automatically? |
| 06:43.09 | Salvad1 | Can I do that with xrandr? |
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| 06:43.46 | Salvad1 | I never used xrandr before. |
| 06:44.02 | Bushmills | it is possible to change resolution with xrandr. whether you can, is a different question |
| 06:44.40 | Salvad1 | It seems in the available display modes. |
| 06:44.52 | Salvad1 | It seems to be. |
| 06:45.10 | Salvad1 | Im am so used to Ubuntu. |
| 06:45.22 | Salvad1 | Never dealed with this before. |
| 06:45.34 | Bushmills | is that good or bad? |
| 06:45.54 | Salvad1 | Diefferent maybe? |
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| 06:53.02 | Name141 | Hello, I am trying to find the package commonly known as 'libssl-dev' |
| 06:53.45 | Name141 | What would Debian call it? |
| 06:54.02 | Bushmills | take a guess |
| 06:54.21 | Name141 | The admin wants to know what it's called in "Debian etch" |
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| 06:56.01 | Name141 | Bushmills: It seems the package claims to be the same ? http://packages.debian.org/etch/libssl-dev |
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| 06:56.14 | Bushmills | applauds |
| 06:56.57 | Name141 | Bushmills: "apt-get install libssl-dev | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have.." |
| 06:57.07 | Bushmills | !etch |
| 06:57.07 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 06:57.30 | Name141 | I see, so the whole server is outdated and no longer supported? |
| 06:57.34 | Name141 | is the problem ? |
| 06:57.40 | Bushmills | seems to be, yes |
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| 06:58.17 | Name141 | I'll tell'em |
| 06:59.40 | jpinx-eeepc | Name141: it's not hard to upgrade to lenny (current stable) |
| 06:59.52 | Name141 | jpinx-eeepc: He's the Admin not me. |
| 06:59.52 | nsadmin | , pciid [8086:4220] |
| 06:59.54 | judd | [8086:4220] is 'PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'ipw2200' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4220 http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 |
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| 07:01.22 | zcat[1] | Bus 001 Device 011: ID 03f0:5811 Hewlett-Packard PhotoSmart C5100 series -- scanner used to work, recently stopped. I suspect it's a debian problem. Any ideas where I should start looking? |
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| 07:02.10 | jpinx-eeepc | zcat[1]: recently stopped after you did what to the system? |
| 07:02.44 | Name141 | anyway, I told'em to upgrade. |
| 07:02.51 | zcat[1] | I've been through a few updates since I last used it. "recently" is sometime in the last month or so. |
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| 07:03.02 | zcat[1] | using testing btw |
| 07:03.18 | jpinx-eeepc | !testing |
| 07:03.18 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 07:03.39 | zcat[1] | Yes. It's broken. I expected that! |
| 07:03.57 | jpinx-eeepc | :) |
| 07:04.16 | zcat[1] | I wouldn't mind some advice on where to begin looking at WHY and how to fix it. |
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| 07:05.27 | jpinx-eeepc | zcat[1]: tbh I only use stable, but take a look through dmesg when you try it |
| 07:05.57 | zcat[1] | no clues in dmesg, says it's detected the printer. xsane says no device available |
| 07:05.59 | Bushmills | zcat[1]: you may want to debootstrap an etch installation, for reference purposes |
| 07:06.09 | zcat[1] | Hmm, there's a command for making sane scan for devices right? |
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| 07:06.31 | zcat[1] | found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x5811 [Photosmart C5100 series]) at libusb:001:011 |
| 07:06.32 | Bushmills | finding problems by having a working reference tends to be easier |
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| 07:07.15 | zcat[1] | Hmm, ok. How about I just boot an ubuntu cd and see if it works there.. I already have one handy |
| 07:07.36 | zcat[1] | actually I only need to scan one page, if ubuntu live cd still works I might just use that |
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| 07:07.52 | Bushmills | ubuntu is hardly a good reference because of the differences |
| 07:07.59 | zcat[1] | and if it doesn't I know it's hardware problem |
| 07:08.38 | zcat[1] | ok, how would I do the etch thing? Got a link I can read up? |
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| 07:08.54 | Bushmills | yes. install debootstrap. read man page |
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| 07:10.49 | zcat[1] | That looks too hard. I think I'll just trust I'm not the only person with this problem and hope it gets fixed on a future update ;) |
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| 07:23.16 | jkaluza | Hi, I have one dummy question. Where can I find list of patches which are applied on logrotate version in debian? is it this page http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=logrotate&include=tags:patch&exclude=tags:pending&pend-exc=done&repeatmerged=no ? |
| 07:24.19 | lindi- | jkaluza: apt-get source logrotate |
| 07:24.46 | jkaluza | ok, I don't have debian here, but I will download source package from repository |
| 07:25.15 | lindi- | jkaluza: or http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/logrotate/3.7.8-6 |
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| 07:25.34 | jkaluza | thanks, that's exactly what I need. |
| 07:26.04 | jkaluza | going to backport some patches to upstream :) |
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| 07:42.44 | emergion | How can I search for a package which contains a file name? Something needs fcgiapp.h how could I find out is there is a package which contains that file and install it ? |
| 07:43.15 | lindi- | emergion: apt-file |
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| 07:44.39 | emergion | lindi-, Cool :) Thanks! |
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| 07:46.37 | project2501a | i got a squash fs from which i netboot from |
| 07:46.53 | project2501a | well, the rest of the hosts on the network netboot from that |
| 07:47.18 | project2501a | can i move away from that and give anther filesystem to use |
| 07:47.20 | project2501a | hmmmmm |
| 07:47.44 | emergion | rofl http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz is not there now |
| 07:47.45 | emergion | what a day |
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| 07:48.41 | poisonbit | what is the software used create official debian doc ? |
| 07:48.44 | WhiteCrow1 | hi all |
| 07:49.22 | WhiteCrow1 | i want Remote Desktop Connection for GNOME anyone can tell me what application i need for remote desktop |
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| 07:49.39 | poisonbit | oh "We use Docbook XML for our documents. Use of DebianDoc" |
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| 07:50.05 | poisonbit | is there any "automated" oficial doc in debian ? |
| 07:50.16 | jpinx-eeepc | WhiteCrow1: I used rdesktop in the past |
| 07:50.37 | WhiteCrow1 | jpinx-eeepc: thanks for help |
| 07:50.39 | WhiteCrow1 | :) |
| 07:50.47 | jmarsden | WhiteCrow1: grdesktop for the GNOME one |
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| 07:51.40 | poisonbit | xml can be worked as a programing object or as templates... it should be posible to auto-generate docs in debian.org, like reports, collected data about the project, summarys, etc |
| 07:51.54 | WhiteCrow1 | jmarsden: thanks a lot :) |
| 07:52.27 | jmarsden | WhiteCrow1: You're welcome. BTW you can search by doing things like apt-cache search "terminal server" ... |
| 07:52.45 | WhiteCrow1 | hmmmmmm |
| 07:53.03 | WhiteCrow1 | okay and thanks again |
| 07:53.09 | jmarsden | No problem. |
| 07:53.16 | WhiteCrow1 | :) |
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| 07:58.23 | emergion | When I run apt-file update I get Can't get http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz ? wtf |
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| 07:59.23 | poisonbit | it does 404 |
| 07:59.32 | emergion | hehe I know |
| 07:59.38 | poisonbit | emergion, systems can fail by multiple reasons, try another mirror |
| 07:59.42 | emergion | Everything has gone wrong today |
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| 08:00.09 | emergion | poisonbit, I will now, I tried some australian ones with no avail though as well |
| 08:00.25 | poisonbit | oh |
| 08:00.58 | poisonbit | http://security.debian.org/ works |
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| 08:01.24 | emergion | saying that I just realised my server is in australia so de is the wrong location anyway |
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| 08:02.04 | poisonbit | http://dsa.debian.org/dsablog/2010/05/Dropping_security.geo.debian.org_zone/ |
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| 08:05.56 | emergion | lol |
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| 08:09.14 | emergion | poisonbit, Can you show me your apt sources |
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| 08:09.24 | poisonbit | of course, give some seconds |
| 08:09.28 | emergion | thanks |
| 08:10.16 | poisonbit | http://paste.debian.net/78596/plain/78596 |
| 08:10.24 | poisonbit | most lines are commented |
| 08:10.47 | emergion | thanks mate :) |
| 08:10.54 | poisonbit | I only use them at random time to build packages |
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| 08:11.46 | lindi- | poisonbit: would be nice if apt-get source could read some user private sources.list |
| 08:11.55 | poisonbit | debian.org should have a sources.list generator |
| 08:12.31 | poisonbit | lindi-, private files can go to .d directory |
| 08:12.42 | lindi- | poisonbit: yes but you still need root |
| 08:12.53 | poisonbit | ah... yes... I understand |
| 08:12.59 | factor | Does a libpcrecpp0 dev exist for debian anywhere? Stable |
| 08:13.09 | poisonbit | I like Local::lib from perl, solves that issue for perl modules |
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| 08:14.02 | poisonbit | factor, If not in repos.... http://snapshot.debian.org/ ? |
| 08:14.14 | pdg | Hi * |
| 08:14.21 | emergion | poisonbit, still not there |
| 08:14.36 | emergion | Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz hmm wtf |
| 08:14.50 | emergion | Maybe it has failed on the master mirror and they have all lost it ? |
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| 08:15.13 | poisonbit | emergion, gives not found again, but aptitude update runs fine for me with that sources in debian lenny |
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| 08:15.49 | vallhalla | hello all# |
| 08:15.52 | poisonbit | emergion, what do you've in /etc/debian_version ? |
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| 08:16.11 | emergion | 5.0.4 |
| 08:16.17 | ChrisW | why version of python ships in stable now? |
| 08:16.21 | man_in_shack | is it possible to use rename to do a bulk rename of files to ###.foo? |
| 08:16.33 | man_in_shack | e.g., first file is 000.foo, second is 001.foo etc |
| 08:16.37 | ChrisW | I have two debian stable boxes, one where the system python is 2.5, the other is 2.4, and I'm a little confused as a result... |
| 08:16.48 | pdg | I'm in the unpleasant situation, having to recreate lost debian source packages. The .debs are still avalible. |
| 08:16.51 | pdg | Is there a tool for this task? What information for the source package can't be recreated from the binary debs? |
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| 08:17.31 | lindi- | ChrisW: both versions |
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| 08:17.48 | ChrisW | lindi-: how do I get /usr/bin/python to be 2.5 then? |
| 08:17.59 | ChrisW | (it is on one box, it's 2.4 on the other...) |
| 08:18.10 | poisonbit | emergion, crazy, same version, same sources.list, It does not give error to me. (but I can't GET by hand that file, as you) |
| 08:18.11 | lindi- | ChrisW: try installing python2.6? |
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| 08:18.13 | lindi- | ChrisW: try installing python2.5? |
| 08:18.42 | ChrisW | lindi-: it *is* installed |
| 08:19.08 | lindi- | ChrisW: I guess you just need to symlink it manually |
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| 08:19.17 | ChrisW | lindi-: :-/ |
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| 08:19.38 | poisonbit | python-minimal depends on python2.5-minimal |
| 08:19.49 | emergion_ | poisonbit, my version is 5.0.4 |
| 08:20.01 | man_in_shack | i thought python defaulted to 2.4 on stable/lenny |
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| 08:20.29 | poisonbit | emergion_, mine too 5.0.4, but i'm in amd64 on a intel imac |
| 08:20.45 | Bushmills | funny that tcl 8.4 or 8.5 is switched by alternatives, but python 2.4 or 2.5 isn't |
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| 08:21.28 | dubphil | Hello, for a new debian install, I have prepared the disk in order to use mdadm/lvm with /dev/md0 as the /boot partition not managed by LVM and /dev/md1 for swap, / and /home partition managed by LVM. The problem is that I forgot to mount the /dev/md0 device to /boot so /boot takes place actually in /dev/mapper/vg00_root (on /dev/md1) how can I move /boot to /dev/md0 then ? |
| 08:21.33 | emergion_ | ok so apt-file is broken |
| 08:21.49 | emergion_ | Would there be some other way to achieve the same function ? |
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| 08:22.41 | poisonbit | emergion_, if you have the package installed dpkg -S /path/to/file |
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| 08:23.05 | Bushmills | emergion_: browsing t http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates shows that Packages.gz is in a subdirectory, like main |
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| 08:26.56 | Ikarus | hrm, is Debian CUPS immune to CVE-2010-0540 CVE-2010-0542 and CVE-2010-1748 ? or are they simply unreported |
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| 08:27.19 | emergion | Bushmills, its looking for Contents-i386.tar.gz |
| 08:27.21 | emergion | ? |
| 08:27.32 | emergion | Sorry now my net is flaking hehe die this install |
| 08:27.40 | emergion | All I want to do is install a gem that does not work |
| 08:27.51 | Bushmills | not according to what you pasted |
| 08:28.06 | Bushmills | (10:14:36) emergion: Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz hmm wtf |
| 08:28.41 | emergion | You said that Packages.gz is in a sub directory not Content-i386.gz |
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| 08:28.54 | emergion | You said that Packages.gz is in a sub directory not Contents-i386.gz |
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| 08:31.01 | Bushmills | ah, yes. i looked at .tar.gz versus .gz |
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| 08:31.54 | emergion | Bushmills, :( Do you have apt-file could you please tell me what package a file belongs to I have had bad eye strain problems all week and just need to get off this machine |
| 08:32.07 | Bushmills | dpkg -S |
| 08:32.07 | dpkg | Bushmills: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 08:32.18 | emergion | I dont have the package installed |
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| 08:33.45 | emergion | I might be able to find it from my Ubuntu machine |
| 08:33.54 | vallhalla | ? |
| 08:34.24 | vallhalla | emergion: what package do you not have installed? |
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| 08:36.44 | emergion | Ok here is the problem I am trying to install a gem which is a ruby plug-in the gem cannot install as it is missing a file it needs to build its make file so I thought I would just easily find out which package I have to install using apt-file |
| 08:37.04 | emergion | now my Internet is playing up to make it all better lol |
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| 08:38.45 | vallhalla | ok what file is missing? |
| 08:39.20 | emergion | vallhalla, fcgiapp.h |
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| 08:40.38 | emergion | Anyway I think I found it from running apt-file on my ubuntu box |
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| 08:40.59 | emergion | Either way maybe a bug needs to be filed some where |
| 08:41.56 | vallhalla | emergion: is it fastcgi you are trying to get? |
| 08:42.15 | emergion | nope |
| 08:42.18 | emergion | libfgci |
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| 08:45.32 | abuayyoub | Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me. I have a bunch of AVI files that have 2 audio tracks, one German set to default and one English. I need to eather change the default to English or delete the German. Is there some easy way I can do this? Someone mentioned Mencoder but it seems rather complicated, I tried a program called AVIdemux which workes wonderfully, however, it only does one file at a time. I have nearly 300 videos I |
| 08:45.32 | abuayyoub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:46.19 | JohnNew | how can I best zip a complete webdir with all its contents in debian shell? |
| 08:46.29 | JohnNew | or at least compress to 1 package |
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| 08:47.56 | rvsjoen | tar -zcvf file.tar.gz <webdir> |
| 08:47.57 | jmarsden | "best"? tar zcf myarchive.tar.gz /path/to/webdir # is one way |
| 08:48.01 | rvsjoen | and don't cross post |
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| 08:58.37 | Abhishek_SIngh | in order to create a debian package for a php and javascript based software i need to write only control, postinst, prerm, postrm, conffiles and config files only? |
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| 08:59.48 | lindi- | Abhishek_SIngh: changelog is mandatory |
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| 09:00.50 | Abhishek_SIngh | lindi-:any more file except changelog? |
| 09:01.09 | lindi- | Abhishek_SIngh: use dh_make to generate a template |
| 09:01.15 | lindi- | Abhishek_SIngh: read http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ |
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| 09:02.00 | Abhishek_SIngh | and then after generating the template what should i do? |
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| 09:07.09 | iceroot | Abhishek_SIngh: for a fast test if the syntax is ok "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" for builinf the final deb use pbuilder with a chroot |
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| 09:10.45 | crypttab | If I want to build a simple kernel module for my current kernel (this is Debian Linux 5), do I need to recompile the whole kernel first, and then the module, and then I just modprobe it? |
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| 09:12.56 | crypttab | I just want to make a simple test modification for one module, I would not want to go throught the hassle of downloading the source code, configging it, building it and then installing it to grub menu etc. if not required |
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| 09:18.00 | BrixSat | hello :) |
| 09:18.17 | BrixSat | im on debian 5 fresh install and i dont have wifi on a asys f5vl with atheros |
| 09:18.46 | petemc | crypttab: its entirely possible to (re)build a module without rebuilding a kernel, but it does depend on the module |
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| 09:27.33 | BrixSat | what linux system do you recomend? |
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| 09:28.19 | jpinx-eeepc | dumb question BrixSat - this is debian |
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| 09:29.32 | Bushmills | BrixSat: slink |
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| 09:30.40 | tarik | Hi all |
| 09:30.44 | BrixSat | Bushmills: slink? |
| 09:31.12 | Bushmills | google for "slink linux" |
| 09:31.48 | jpinx-eeepc | :) |
| 09:32.11 | BrixSat | btw how do i install my wifi card on debian5? |
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| 09:33.29 | Bushmills | i suppose you want to install wpa_supplicant, configure it, load driver, |
| 09:34.11 | poisonbit | BrixSat, How do you perfom any operation in any operative system ? searching first for documentation about the thing ? http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 09:34.19 | cahoot | BrixSat: there's a debian wiki on the subject |
| 09:34.28 | BrixSat | :D |
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| 09:36.08 | BrixSat | how i know my debian name? |
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| 09:36.27 | poisonbit | name do you mean "version" ? |
| 09:36.31 | cahoot | lsb_relaese -a |
| 09:36.35 | cahoot | release |
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| 09:37.35 | BrixSat | i saw on the wiki "ath5k is included in the mainline Linux kernel since 2.6.25. It is present in Debian kernel images since 2.6.24 and included in Lenny. " |
| 09:37.58 | poisonbit | if lsb-release (priotity extra, another python script to manage a perl base OS) is installed |
| 09:38.06 | BrixSat | and no wifi for me :( i have an atheros ar242x |
| 09:38.37 | Bushmills | madwifi may be an alternative if there are no free drivers for your card |
| 09:38.49 | BrixSat | Bushmills: there are free drivers |
| 09:39.06 | Bushmills | ah. fine |
| 09:39.06 | BrixSat | and they where suposed to come with debian lenny (what i have) but.... |
| 09:39.11 | cahoot | BrixSat: get it's pciid, lspci -nn |
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| 09:39.45 | BrixSat | cahoot: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01) |
| 09:39.57 | cahoot | , pciid 168c:001c |
| 09:39.59 | judd | [168c:001c] is 'AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Atheros Communications Inc.' with kernel module 'ath5k' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:001c http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k and the out-of-tree 'ath_pci' module. |
| 09:40.36 | BrixSat | cahoot: so if it comes with lenny does it not work for me? |
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| 09:41.00 | cahoot | does it show up in ifconfig -a? |
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| 09:41.42 | Bushmills | my AR5001 runs with ath5k module |
| 09:41.47 | BrixSat | yes i have a wlan0 |
| 09:41.57 | Pupeno | I have a server that after restarting, when installing a package, it got stuck on "Processing triggers for man-db ...", any ideas what might it be or how to find out? |
| 09:42.09 | cahoot | BrixSat: and iwlist scan? |
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| 09:42.37 | BrixSat | cahoot: wlan0 No scan results |
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| 09:44.35 | BrixSat | cahoot: my mother board wifi led is off and i cant turn it on |
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| 09:52.12 | zplinux | hi there |
| 09:52.33 | zplinux | say, how can I tell service1 to run after service2? |
| 09:52.50 | zplinux | that means service2 depends on service1 |
| 09:54.27 | idimmu | tweak the numbers in /etc/rc?.d |
| 09:54.40 | idimmu | so they'er in the order you want |
| 09:54.55 | zplinux | isnt there a program to do this for me? |
| 09:55.07 | idimmu | yeah |
| 09:55.09 | idimmu | mv |
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| 09:55.45 | zplinux | I mean , I put the the init script : depends on service1 , and the system sorts it out |
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| 09:57.04 | zplinux | ok, how can I tell which init nuber I am at? |
| 09:57.25 | idimmu | well you could add some stuff to the init script yourself to make sure that the other service is running |
| 09:57.33 | cahoot | runlevel |
| 09:57.40 | idimmu | who -r |
| 09:57.43 | idimmu | ? |
| 09:57.54 | zplinux | thansk |
| 10:01.56 | BrixSat | how do i turn my mother board wifi led? |
| 10:02.37 | bzed | BrixSat: take some calipers and turn... ;) |
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| 10:03.21 | Godfather_ | hi |
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| 10:03.35 | Godfather_ | how can i share my printer to my lan? i've just installed cups and it works on localhost |
| 10:03.54 | BrixSat | bzed: calipers? |
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| 10:05.12 | txwsqk | introduce a web camera software in kde , except cheese |
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| 10:09.44 | txwsqk | so lonely |
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| 10:25.09 | snake_ | /MSG dpkg guidelines |
| 10:25.12 | Texou | Hey :D |
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| 10:25.53 | topodrillo | ragazzi Per creare il database MySql Radius ed il file db_mysql.sql che contiene le direttive SQL per la creazione delle tabelle |
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| 10:26.00 | topodrillo | questo file su debian lenny non c'e' piu |
| 10:26.05 | topodrillo | dove lo trovo ? |
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| 10:26.19 | jelly-home | !it |
| 10:26.20 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 10:27.54 | topodrillo | Where can I find db_mysql.sql ? in debian lenny |
| 10:28.03 | jelly-home | !tell topodrillo about search |
| 10:28.11 | jelly-home | !tell topodrillo about apt-file |
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| 10:28.38 | jelly-home | you didn't say which radius implementation you were using |
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| 10:29.13 | alexs | How do debian developers manage versioning the root file system image including file ownership and so on? |
| 10:29.17 | alexs | Or is it all storred in the debs? |
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| 10:29.42 | cmanns | How do I enable PV on Squeeze? |
| 10:29.53 | jelly-home | PV? |
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| 10:30.05 | cmanns | paravirturalization, should work I guess |
| 10:30.29 | cmanns | Running xenserver on host, pretty good performance so far but I read i can enable that |
| 10:30.36 | jelly-home | sounds like something xen-related |
| 10:30.52 | cmanns | im not sure on which area you enable it ^_^ |
| 10:31.51 | jelly-home | how do you know it's not already there? |
| 10:32.08 | jelly-home | not that I can help with anything but |
| 10:32.10 | jelly-home | !xen |
| 10:32.10 | dpkg | Xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, allowing several guest operating systems to execute concurrently on the same system. Provides paravirtualization (requiring guest OSs to be modified/ported) and hardware-assisted virtualization (for running guests unmodified). For detailed help, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen . #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net. See also <virtualization>. |
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| 10:36.01 | HermanDE_ | Anybody know Exim in here? |
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| 10:36.42 | HermanDE_ | Is it possible to have a pipe transport that does not add the prefix to the local_part? |
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| 10:48.48 | jelly-home | !exim |
| 10:48.48 | dpkg | from memory, exim is a message transfer agent developed at University of Cambridge for use on Unix systems connected to the internet. It is available under the GPL and the current version in Debian is exim4. Ask me about <exim4> <exim boot stall> <exim flush queue> <why exim>. http://www.exim.org/ #exim on irc.freenode.net and irc.oftc.net. |
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| 10:49.14 | broy-w | !why exim |
| 10:49.15 | dpkg | Exim was chosen as the default MTA a long time ago: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1997/06/msg00476.html, or see http://feayn.org/~lewis/exim.txt |
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| 10:50.37 | Nirkus | hi! I remember having some CLI tool to switch between authentication & name service configurations like NIS vs. LDAP vs. local ind ebian, but i cant remember it's name - can anyone here give me a hint? |
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| 10:55.23 | jmarsden | Nirkus: auth-client-config |
| 10:56.42 | topodrillo | i have freeradius 2.0.4 in this version i can't find /usr/share/doc/freeradius/examples/db_mysql.sql.gz that is old file for create radiu database |
| 10:57.08 | topodrillo | anyone know if this file change name or change dir ? where can i find it ? |
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| 11:02.38 | amos | could someone please point me in the right direction for a one cd debian gnome iso url? |
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| 11:04.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | its cd1 |
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| 11:12.00 | dv- | amos: you might also like http://live.debian.net |
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| 11:14.09 | Nirkus | jmarsden: ah, thanks |
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| 11:14.16 | Nirkus | jmarsden: anyways... too late :D |
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| 11:14.46 | isfranc | hello |
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| 11:25.50 | isfranc | have you idea for this > libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0: version `WXU_2.8.9' not found |
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| 11:39.44 | foxtrot | how can I disable sound completely |
| 11:39.51 | foxtrot | i cant adjust my mixer settings |
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| 11:40.08 | foxtrot | and everytime theres a youtube video it makes horrible screetching sounds |
| 11:40.13 | foxtrot | i just want to turn it off |
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| 11:40.52 | ikanobori | Pull the plug. |
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| 11:41.16 | foxtrot | its a laptop |
| 11:41.41 | foxtrot | hello worf |
| 11:41.57 | isfranc | foxtrot: in bios |
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| 11:42.15 | abrotman | foxtrot: close that browser |
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| 11:43.17 | foxtrot | i had to |
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| 11:46.40 | cahoot | foxtrot: cat /proc/aosund/modules |
| 11:46.52 | cahoot | err asound |
| 11:48.26 | foxtrot | ok what will that tell me |
| 11:48.44 | cahoot | what module the sounddevice uses |
| 11:49.05 | foxtrot | snd_pcspk and snd_intel8x0 |
| 11:49.10 | cahoot | (if you want to inhibit its loading it might be useful) |
| 11:49.21 | foxtrot | id prefer it to just work and not play distortion |
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| 11:49.45 | foxtrot | is there a package i can try |
| 11:50.04 | cahoot | foxtrot: cat /proc/asound/cards - which is defualt? i e crad0 |
| 11:50.07 | cahoot | card0 |
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| 11:50.57 | cahoot | my guess is snd-pcsp - hence you problem |
| 11:51.00 | foxtrot | 0 is pcspk |
| 11:51.08 | foxtrot | 1 is the intel card |
| 11:51.26 | cahoot | try alsa force-reload see if the order changes |
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| 11:54.05 | foxtrot | hey it changed |
| 11:54.11 | foxtrot | cahoot, do i need to do that every time? |
| 11:54.34 | cahoot | foxtrot: you could make sure snd-intel8x0 gets index 0 |
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| 11:55.37 | cahoot | like echo 'Options snd-intel8x0 index=0' >> /etc/modprobe.d/sndintel8x0 |
| 11:56.15 | cahoot | like echo 'Options snd-pcsp index=-2' >> /etc/modprobe.d/sndpcsp |
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| 11:56.42 | cahoot | it's snd-pcsp - not snd-pcspk? |
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| 11:59.45 | foxtrot | cool thanks |
| 12:00.03 | foxtrot | now im trying to figure out a way to get the vol up and vol down buttons to work |
| 12:00.19 | cahoot | it still doesn't work with alsamixer? |
| 12:00.19 | foxtrot | this guide says to do it with gnome control center -> shortcuts -> audio |
| 12:00.25 | foxtrot | but im using xfce |
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| 12:00.38 | gofo0r | hey, has anybody here ever successfully made a persistent Debian usb stick? |
| 12:01.03 | gofo0r | Debian5.04 |
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| 12:01.30 | abrotman | again? |
| 12:02.09 | gofo0r | is it correct that Lenny does not support casper-rw and uses live-rw instead? |
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| 12:07.45 | omry|work | is there a way to see why apt-get wants to install a specific package in response to the installation of another (dependency chain) ? |
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| 12:09.46 | gofo0r | hey, got a goody for you, i'm trying to make a bootable debian usb key, boot menue works great, but then there is this error message: "[ 13.627214] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" - what can be done? |
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| 12:16.50 | jpinx-eeepc | is there a way of building an ext3fs within a file which is on a vfat fs (on a usb memory stick) ? |
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| 12:19.57 | alcy | jpinx-eeepc: what's your requirement ? |
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| 12:20.09 | Bushmills | yes, possible. you can create a file system on a file. the hosting file system is not very important |
| 12:20.29 | Bushmills | that file can be loop mounted |
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| 12:20.56 | jpinx-eeepc | alcy: to keep the vfat partition intact so that the stick can be read by windows, but to have some "private" files on there that can only be read by my debian eeepc |
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| 12:21.21 | jpinx-eeepc | Bushmills: I thought there was a mthod - but I didn't know how |
| 12:21.29 | LinuxNIT | lookt at using encfs if you want it private |
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| 12:21.33 | LinuxNIT | or trucrypt |
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| 12:22.36 | jpinx-eeepc | just a different fs will be enough security - it's not crucial, more to prevent confusion in teh internet cafe where I take files to get printed off |
| 12:24.45 | jpinx-eeepc | Bushmills: any pointers where to find a fs in a file and how to mount it? |
| 12:25.02 | Bushmills | mount -o loop ... |
| 12:25.41 | Bushmills | and mkfs.ext3 filename (after having written a file of desired size) |
| 12:26.10 | jpinx-eeepc | Bushmills: and to create the fs ina file - do I dd from /dev/zero itno the file first or what? |
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| 12:26.21 | remoteCTRL | hi guys! |
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| 12:26.37 | remoteCTRL | does anybody know a cpu benchmark that runs in debian? |
| 12:26.42 | Bushmills | yes. just any file with desired size. then you mkfs on it |
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| 12:26.53 | jpinx-eeepc | Bushmills: cool - thanks |
| 12:27.55 | jpinx-eeepc | Bushmills: as a matter of interest, can I create the fs-in-a-file somewhere else and cp it over? |
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| 12:28.11 | Bushmills | yes, no problem |
| 12:28.23 | jpinx-eeepc | even better - thanks |
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| 12:29.57 | Martin_vW | I have to get sth off my chest... |
| 12:30.09 | Martin_vW | Am I the only one who finds dpkg-divert's syntax extremely irritating? |
| 12:30.27 | BiGViC | Any recommendations for channel scanners? Totem recommends W_Scan but I can't find it in the backports :-S. I rather not compile |
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| 12:32.49 | JohnnyL | I have an older debian installed, after I apt-get install g++ I get a : 'Please insert cd labeled: XXXX". I am currently downloading the latest debian, will i have a problem? (I don't have the original cd install disc) |
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| 12:35.12 | petemc | JohnnyL: you just need to change /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update |
| 12:35.48 | JohnnyL | petemc: great thanks! |
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| 12:38.01 | foxtrot | via command line |
| 12:38.08 | foxtrot | how can I raise the volume 1 bar |
| 12:38.09 | JohnnyL | petemc: Can I just have it point to a valid server to get only the g++ app? |
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| 12:39.13 | badipod | foxtrot: There's alsamixer |
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| 12:40.18 | guzu | hello all |
| 12:41.42 | petemc | JohnnyL: not that im aware of |
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| 12:42.32 | craigevil | JohnnyL: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list comment the cd lines and make sure the line for stable/lenny is uncommented |
| 12:42.59 | guzu | how can i get rid of proxy configuration in apt? |
| 12:43.06 | craigevil | JohnnyL: for w-scan you can try to backports it yourself, /msg dpkg ssb |
| 12:43.49 | craigevil | whoops that second was for BiGViC |
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| 12:46.13 | guzu | how can i setup a proxy for apt? |
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| 12:47.04 | JohnnyL | craigevil: many thanks |
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| 12:48.08 | craigevil | guzu: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/177 |
| 12:48.32 | guzu | craigevil: thank you very much |
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| 12:50.15 | jpinx-eeepc | Bushmills: good trick that mounting an ext3fs in a file on a vfat on a usb stick - works a treat - windows sees it but can't read it. Thanks:) |
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| 12:54.29 | guzu | how do i find any file in /etc containing 'proxy'? |
| 12:54.50 | alcy | ls /etc | grep proxy |
| 12:54.54 | BiGViC | thanks craigevil |
| 12:55.08 | guzu | alcy: not in name |
| 12:55.10 | OpenTokix | no, that will find files named proxy |
| 12:55.30 | alcy | find -name "*proxy*" |
| 12:55.38 | guzu | is a debian newbie |
| 12:55.40 | OpenTokix | grep -r proxy /etc/ |
| 12:55.50 | guzu | OpenTokix: thank you |
| 12:56.13 | alcy | oh wait. |
| 12:57.04 | guzu | was /etc/bash/bashrc |
| 12:57.19 | guzu | was /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 12:57.28 | guzu | thank you all for help |
| 12:57.53 | guzu | gotta reboot now (probably :)) |
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| 13:05.32 | JohnnyL | if I : apt-get update, it reports: Err http:/ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages 404 not found. I think the directory might be wrong, because if I ping that server it works. |
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| 13:06.15 | bergquist | shouldnt it say http:// ? |
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| 13:06.36 | JohnnyL | yes, a typo, it's on another machine. |
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| 13:07.02 | bergquist | ok |
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| 13:09.13 | bergquist | how does sources.list look like for that entry it complains about? |
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| 13:11.03 | JohnnyL | dunno, i'm a newb |
| 13:12.03 | jordanm | why do packages in volatile have lesser version numbers than packages in main? |
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| 13:14.07 | BiGViC | Can anyone here help me with w_scan? I have it installed I just want to do a simple can so it can work with totem |
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| 13:15.06 | bergquist | JohnnyL: you do know how to open a file and edit it right? |
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| 13:16.47 | craigevil | JohnnyL: etch was removed thats why your getting the error |
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| 13:17.20 | bergquist | lol... forgot about that :) |
| 13:17.29 | craigevil | thats why the Topic has etch no longer on mirrors: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 13:18.19 | jordanm | they had been announcing and warning about it since the begininning of the year |
| 13:18.22 | bergquist | maybe is should have picked on that one... |
| 13:18.40 | bergquist | /is/i |
| 13:19.03 | craigevil | JohnnyL: if you still need a package for etch http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
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| 13:24.48 | kasimon | Hi. the etch repository has moved to archive.debian.org, but where's etch-proposed-updates? |
| 13:25.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | kasimon: um.. gone? there are no more proposed updates... |
| 13:25.32 | Bushmills | !etch |
| 13:25.33 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 13:26.21 | Bushmills | gone the potato route |
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| 13:26.26 | Bushmills | !potato |
| 13:26.26 | dpkg | Potato is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, released August 14th, 2000. It is no longer supported. Ask me about <potato->woody> for upgrade information. See also <potato sources.list>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPotato |
| 13:26.34 | djura-san | o/ |
| 13:26.44 | kasimon | But there's http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge-proposed-updates/ |
| 13:27.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | kasimon: which is empty |
| 13:27.38 | abrotman | kasimon: there are no more, etch is done |
| 13:27.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge-proposed-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages |
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| 13:28.33 | kasimon | abrotman: okay, that makes sense. |
| 13:28.55 | kasimon | hehe, potato was my first debian :-) |
| 13:29.30 | jpinx-eeepc | !slink |
| 13:29.30 | dpkg | Slink (Debian GNU/Linux 2.1) was released March 1999. It is no longer supported. Ask me about <slink->potato>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSlink |
| 13:30.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | !slink->potato |
| 13:30.19 | kasimon | i did own a slink cd too, but i never used it |
| 13:30.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | pokes dpkg |
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| 13:30.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | silly bot |
| 13:30.53 | jordanm | does anyone why do packages in volatile have lesser version numbers than packages in stable main? |
| 13:31.04 | jpinx-eeepc | dpkg: slink->potato |
| 13:31.04 | dpkg | Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all occurences of "slink" with "potato", then, because the non-US structure has changed in potato, ask me about <non-us>", then just apt-get update && apt-get install apt && apt-get dist-upgrade, and voila! but SPARC users must upgrade to a 2.2.x kernel first |
| 13:31.20 | mjk_ | Help! My two Debian testing machines (office + home) both have a broken pkg management since the last try of upgrading memtest86+: http://pastebin.com/fGj4cfJh |
| 13:31.38 | mjk_ | Any ideas? |
| 13:31.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm... i think some of those factoids could do with updates |
| 13:31.42 | jpinx-eeepc | mjk_: what release are you using? |
| 13:31.49 | mjk_ | Debian testing, AMD64 |
| 13:31.57 | jpinx-eeepc | !testing |
| 13:31.57 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 13:32.08 | jpinx-eeepc | mjk_: it breaks from time to time |
| 13:32.11 | mjk_ | Bumby rides ... oh my .. |
| 13:32.16 | mjk_ | It was never /that/ broken ... :-/ |
| 13:32.32 | craigevil | jordanm: because they the epoch number is incorrect, if the version is lower the package from main would be installed not volatile, someone made a mistake |
| 13:33.08 | abrotman | mjk_: dpkg --force-reinstreq memtest or whatever it is |
| 13:33.25 | jpinx-eeepc | mjk_: if you are mission critical the idea would be to back up and install stable |
| 13:33.58 | jpinx-eeepc | or crowbar it ina s abrotman suggests |
| 13:34.04 | mjk_ | Thank God it's not mission critical ... |
| 13:34.26 | abrotman | that's not in .. that's out |
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| 13:35.26 | jpinx-eeepc | either way - it's a blunt instrument ;) |
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| 13:36.48 | JohnnyL | can't wait until i get my degree in rocket science, then I'll be able to install g++. |
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| 13:37.07 | Bushmills | rocket surgery? |
| 13:37.20 | sorsis | what shows the current folder in terminal? |
| 13:37.25 | bergquist | pwd |
| 13:37.31 | bergquist | or ls |
| 13:37.37 | sorsis | bergquist: ty |
| 13:37.38 | bergquist | for listing contents |
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| 13:37.49 | jordanm | craigevil: I have found that is the case in both volatile packages I tried to install |
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| 13:39.29 | mjk_ | abrotman: Thanks for your --force-reinstreq hint, that revealed another error ("/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).", so I can google for that ... |
| 13:39.38 | JohnnyL | fuck this.. |
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| 13:39.44 | jordanm | craigevil: http://paste.debian.net/78631/ the only way I could figure to get them installed was to pin volatile to 1001.... |
| 13:39.50 | abrotman | mjk_: that doens't sound healthy |
| 13:40.04 | craigevil | mjk_: check the BTS that bug is listed |
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| 13:41.36 | jordanm | could a point release have obsoleted the volatile versions? |
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| 13:49.21 | mjk_ | thx reading just cat in way of kb |
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| 13:54.05 | crypttab | what was the way of determining the current runlevel? |
| 13:54.21 | petemc | 'runlevel' |
| 13:54.48 | crypttab | right, thanks |
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| 13:56.26 | jordanm | craigevil: I am going to post to the list |
| 13:56.31 | abrotman | petemc: you take all the easy ones! |
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| 13:58.04 | petemc | abrotman: yes, i prefer the low hanging fruit :) |
| 13:58.17 | abrotman | short irish guy! |
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| 14:00.19 | petemc | :) |
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| 14:09.10 | xlotlu | does nspluginwrapper still work with 32bit flash? |
| 14:09.27 | abrotman | so it has been said |
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| 14:13.57 | xlotlu | well.. ermm.. nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for libflashplayer.so |
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| 14:15.49 | flupke | hi, I'd like to advertise on a packaging bug report I made, where should I go ? I tried #debian-devel but have been redirected on this channel |
| 14:16.59 | jordanm | flupke: advertise? |
| 14:17.43 | flupke | jordanm, yes, I had no activity on the report, I think it went unnoticed |
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| 14:18.06 | the-dude | flupke: wht bug? |
| 14:18.12 | jordanm | flupke: how long has it been, and how severe is the bug? bug #? |
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| 14:19.19 | flupke | the-dude, this one : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=584907 ; jordanm, I reported it on june 7 |
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| 14:19.59 | flupke | it's really a simple fix (just adds a file that was forgotten in the install rule) |
| 14:20.05 | jordanm | flupke: are you aware there are bugs that haven't seen a response in years? |
| 14:20.11 | jordanm | flupke: your not even running debian! |
| 14:20.38 | flupke | jordanm, yes I am (see the reply, I mistakenly used the report tool from an ubuntu box the first time) |
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| 14:23.12 | xlotlu | meh. libflashplayer.so is not a valid NPAPI plugin |
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| 14:24.19 | abrotman | flupke: why do you keep spamming us? |
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| 14:24.47 | mjk | hi again -- just wanted to say thank you! Upgrading grub{-pc,2,-common} (downloading via Firefox and installing via "dpkg -i -R .", as APT stopped working) and removing memtest via "dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq memtest86+" made my Debian usable again! Thanks! :-) |
| 14:24.51 | dentifrice | hey there - how can I know which specific vserver patch a debian package linux-kernel uses ? |
| 14:25.02 | flupke | abrotman, I don't think I'm spamming, but my intention is to improve debian if you ask |
| 14:25.04 | mjk | Upgrading grub-* to the /unstable/ version, that is |
| 14:25.11 | abrotman | flupke: this is at least the second time you've asked! |
| 14:25.34 | flupke | abrotman, yes, in 2 weeks or so. |
| 14:26.54 | the-dude | flupke: just give it some time, I bet the python team has more important bugs to fix at this moment. |
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| 14:27.34 | abrotman | flupke: Is your patch still against valid *Debian* files? |
| 14:27.48 | flupke | abrotman, yes |
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| 14:29.32 | acu | I want to modify a usb module to inform the driver that it needs to allocate evenly the bandwith between two video devices - I know that in some linux distribution the file I am looking for is called modules.conf and is located in /etc/modules.conf - however in debian there is no modules.conf what would be the name in debian - and where is it placed ? |
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| 14:29.56 | heroxbd | is there a way to execute BSD binary on Linux hosts? |
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| 14:30.41 | jordanm | I am sure you could with a chroot |
| 14:31.21 | heroxbd | chroot into a bsd? |
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| 14:31.59 | flupke | the-dude, sure I'm not impatient or anything (the fix's already on my box...) it's just that I am used to advertise on my bug reports on other projects (on django for example advertising is encouraged), if it's not the way it works on debian I'll stop right away |
| 14:32.08 | jpinx-eeepc | heroxbd: schroot is really good |
| 14:32.13 | abrotman | flupke: you sure about that? |
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| 14:33.59 | abrotman | flupke: seems broken to me |
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| 14:34.35 | flupke | abrotman, I haven't tested it since I posted it let me see |
| 14:34.43 | abrotman | right . try again |
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| 14:35.15 | xst | How do I get the memory usage of a process, including the amount of memory that has been swapped to disk (in case the process uses more memory than the available RAM)? |
| 14:35.25 | abrotman | based on my limited knowledge of kde/qt |
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| 14:36.26 | heroxbd | jpinx-eeepc: what about udev for linux and devfs for freebsd difference? Can I access tun from within the chroot env? |
| 14:37.35 | jpinx-eeepc | heroxbd: seriously - look at schroot - the package |
| 14:38.02 | heroxbd | jpinx-eeepc: ok thx |
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| 14:38.55 | This_is | work with |
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| 14:39.02 | This_is | in debian ?? |
| 14:39.33 | abrotman | ask them |
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| 14:43.12 | mjk | Hmm ... where can I get "smbfs-2:4.1-1"? It's not in the repo anymore, and snapshot.debian.net's newest version is 3.x :-/ |
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| 14:43.46 | jpinx-eeepc | I have a separate partition with XP on it, is it possible to get it to run in a vm or chroot or somesuch from within lenny? |
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| 14:45.03 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: usually knows these things... |
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| 14:45.39 | abrotman | not that i know of, never tried .. i don't do much VM/Emu stuff |
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| 14:46.28 | jpinx-eeepc | who's the whizz on VM's in here? |
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| 14:48.17 | petemc | jpinx-eeepc: there are various methods for doing p2v |
| 14:48.55 | jpinx-eeepc | petemc: any pointers on what to read? |
| 14:49.22 | petemc | depends on what you want to use, googling for p2v might be a start |
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| 14:51.11 | jair | hello guys. If I am running debian squeeze/sid in one of the latest laptops from lenovo thinkpad w510 16GB memory and 500GB disk core I7 cpu, I should run the kernel trunk? or the 2.6.32-5-amd64? |
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| 14:51.52 | jair | I have two kernels listed on the grub boot menu the default is the trunk but I remember someone asking me to stay away from trunk. |
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| 14:52.29 | jpinx-eeepc | petemc: whatever solution which will fire up the XP without me having to come out of lenny |
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| 14:53.22 | jordanm | jair: -5 is the latest, trunk should be removed if -5 works |
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| 14:54.19 | jpinx-eeepc | petemc: cool - google has given me reading material for an evening :) |
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| 14:54.59 | spliffi | hi guys, Iam testing multicast Videostreaming in my network. It's working fine so far. I'd like to know how many people are watching a stream (which is of course bound to a multicastgroup 239.255.0.X) at the moment. So, where can I have a look to figure out how many people are tuned in? Maybe with MAC address? Is there sth. in /proc? |
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| 14:56.33 | jair | jordanm: perfect looks like I can remove trunk then. I am running -5 |
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| 14:58.44 | jair | jordanm: is there a reason for trunk to be always the default kernel? |
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| 14:59.16 | jair | jordanm: also I noticed a change on the grub configuration, I can not change the order of the kernel stanza boot like before. |
| 14:59.40 | flupke | jordanm, there was a problem with filenames :( resubmited a fixed version |
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| 15:01.05 | emergion | Does anyone hear handle gems on there debian ? |
| 15:02.50 | flupke | jordanm, at least talking about it made me fix it, and avoid wasting a dev time when they'll look at it |
| 15:02.57 | jordanm | jair: /etc/default/grub |
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| 15:04.20 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: did you get your system sorted out and running properly now? |
| 15:04.44 | emergion | jpinx-eeepc, perfect but now I just am having I guess you could say issues with gems |
| 15:05.11 | emergion | If I install say capistrano and then run capify I found out I am missing maybe 20 gems |
| 15:05.16 | jordanm | emergion: we use apt/dpkg. see #ruby or similar for their package management |
| 15:05.17 | emergion | wow its frustrating :( |
| 15:05.47 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions capistrano |
| 15:05.49 | judd | capistrano -- sid: 2.5.9-1; squeeze: 2.5.9-1 |
| 15:06.03 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: it's not in lenny/stable |
| 15:06.24 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: how did you install it? |
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| 15:07.30 | emergion | I am using gems |
| 15:07.46 | jpinx-eeepc | emergion: use aptitude - you are using debian now |
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| 15:08.08 | emergion | I think its too late i have too many things installed with gems |
| 15:08.13 | emergion | people say use gems to avoid problems |
| 15:08.18 | emergion | rails devs |
| 15:08.38 | emergion | I have had some issues with package on ubuntu but eh |
| 15:08.59 | jpinx-eeepc | #ruby might be a better bet for you, but tell them you're using debian |
| 15:09.08 | jordanm | emergion: thats the thing... ruby support their package management system and we support ours |
| 15:09.25 | nsadmin | I'd have to concur... when I was trying ruby, the only way I could get rubygems to work was to compile it myself |
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| 15:10.22 | helpme | hello anyone can give me link to pub key for debian |
| 15:10.28 | helpme | debian main sid ? |
| 15:10.43 | jordanm | helpme: install debian-archive-keyring |
| 15:10.48 | emergion | Yeah I know the story :) |
| 15:10.48 | jordanm | !tell helpme about sid |
| 15:10.56 | jpinx-eeepc | helpme: if you are good enough to run sid, you don't need to ask thatt |
| 15:11.34 | helpme | hehe i am student |
| 15:11.49 | jordanm | so? |
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| 15:12.08 | jair | jordanm: so I just need to change the line GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to the next stanza? |
| 15:12.17 | jordanm | jair: yes, and run update-grub2 |
| 15:12.32 | jair | jordanm: nice, let me try that. |
| 15:12.37 | helpme | i am using ubuntu lucid want to add debian sid repo but updating it giving error get key i searched by pgg but could not find way to add-key |
| 15:12.52 | jpinx-eeepc | helpme: go ask #ubuntu |
| 15:12.52 | helpme | gpg* |
| 15:13.11 | helpme | : ( |
| 15:13.14 | jordanm | !ubuntu |
| 15:13.14 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 15:13.21 | Flaim | helpme: make a backup first? |
| 15:13.52 | nsadmin | wow... you want to put rampant unstability on top of unknown quantities? |
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| 15:14.15 | Flaim | nsadmin: exacly why i mentioned backups.. |
| 15:14.50 | nsadmin | the packages of each dist were compiled together |
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| 15:15.20 | nsadmin | debian and ubuntu were not meant to be mixed any more than stable and sid |
| 15:15.31 | helpme | i want to install latest xen ,andits not supported in ubuntu ,debian support lates xen?i will install debian lenny ? |
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| 15:15.56 | nsadmin | you're advised to build the packages |
| 15:16.21 | jordanm | helpme: what does the "latest" have to offer that the existing does not? |
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| 15:17.52 | helpme | um ,i thought more hardware support in latest kernel? |
| 15:18.13 | jordanm | is some of your hardware unsupported? |
| 15:18.15 | Flaim | so just update the kernel, then? |
| 15:18.18 | nsadmin | do you have a specific problem with hardware you're trying to solve? |
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| 15:18.36 | jordanm | helpme: what I am trying to get at, is it sounds like you have a solution in search of a problem |
| 15:18.40 | helpme | no,i want to use xen to make server , |
| 15:19.11 | nsadmin | why not use the xen that's already available? |
| 15:19.37 | helpme | it will work perfact ?i hought newest is good |
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| 15:19.54 | nsadmin | no idea, you'll have to try it |
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| 15:20.11 | Flaim | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:20.13 | jordanm | helpme: the newest is the shiniest, but often the least tested |
| 15:20.38 | nsadmin | so testing puts warts on the finish! |
| 15:20.55 | helpme | so install squuez ?or lenny ? |
| 15:21.19 | nsadmin | try keep what you have and install xen on that |
| 15:21.37 | nsadmin | it's the easiest and fastest |
| 15:22.03 | helpme | thank you : ) |
| 15:22.38 | nsadmin | dare not ask "why xen"... |
| 15:23.07 | petemc | whats better for paravirt? |
| 15:23.25 | jordanm | soon to be KVM I would imagine |
| 15:23.39 | petemc | soon to be isnt much use now.. |
| 15:24.06 | jordanm | it may be now... the RHEL team has been doing tons of work on it since they dropped support for xen |
| 15:24.20 | nsadmin | no I meant what use he would make of xen when he may not need it at all |
| 15:24.31 | nsadmin | but that would dealve into his situation |
| 15:24.42 | nsadmin | hence, dare not. |
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| 15:31.23 | helpme | thx ,um i think i need to get debian |
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| 15:34.01 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions virt-install |
| 15:34.01 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'virt-install' was found. |
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| 15:36.08 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions virtinstall |
| 15:36.10 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'virtinstall' was found. |
| 15:36.38 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions virtinst |
| 15:36.40 | judd | virtinst -- etch-backports: 0.300.3-4~bpo40+1; lenny: 0.400.0-7; lenny-backports: 0.500.2-1~bpo50+1; sid: 0.500.3-1; squeeze: 0.500.3-1 |
| 15:36.44 | nsadmin | helpme: small word of advice... people will not answer sid questions here |
| 15:38.00 | jpinx-eeepc | helpme: install lenny and see if it works before you start doing anything about "upgrading" which will possibly de-stabilise your system |
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| 15:38.58 | helpme | thx yes going to instll debian 5 as dom0 |
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| 15:40.09 | nsadmin | you said something about a server before |
| 15:41.10 | nsadmin | what purpose would the server have? |
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| 15:43.19 | gui_ | hi |
| 15:43.39 | gui_ | please, how to verify if a disque is broken in an hardware raid under debian please ? |
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| 15:47.31 | helpme | hi again ns ,using server to learn more abt apache and other application so it dont break system as have multiple dom U |
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| 15:48.32 | helpme | you are welcome to lokin my Computer hehe |
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| 15:52.54 | jordanm | helpme: ubuntu is not supported here |
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| 15:55.02 | codrus | Hi. Running gnome-ppp in my user account fails because /usr/sbin/pppd doesn't have root privleges. What's the general way to setup privleges for something like this? |
| 15:56.37 | helpme | hello again i do not able to find dev/ttyUSB0 in my dev folder in debian etch i had b4,whats the problem?is it persist in lenny also ? |
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| 15:57.05 | jordanm | codrus: user ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/pppd in /etc/sudoers maybe |
| 15:57.33 | helpme | yes me getting debian installed,i think its best as dom0 |
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| 15:59.49 | codrus | jordanm: i'll try that. thanks |
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| 16:00.38 | jordanm | codrus: actually, you would probably want to set that to the gnome-ppp binary, and call with sudo |
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| 16:00.55 | jordanm | codrus: typically, you would not give users control of networking configuration |
| 16:01.09 | codrus | helpme: i'm not an expert but my /dev/ttyUSB stuff shows up when usbserial is modprobed |
| 16:01.16 | taras | hi. how to disable ipv6 on interface? |
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| 16:01.47 | jordanm | taras: what version of debian? |
| 16:01.54 | helpme | yes i did modprob usbserial product=0x05c6 vendor=0x6000,but cannot dial wvdial |
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| 16:01.56 | codrus | jordanm: debian doesn't normallhy come with sudo so I thought I shouldn't be using it? |
| 16:02.30 | helpme | yes i did use as root |
| 16:02.30 | jordanm | codrus: I would not use it the same manor that other distros do, but it can be useful for giving a user permission to a command or a set of commands |
| 16:02.34 | helpme | su sudo |
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| 16:02.36 | taras | jordanm: lenny; interface is wlan0, controlled by network manager |
| 16:02.40 | Iran | hi, what it called when you login the shell account gives you option to install eggdrop letsay lile "get eggdrop" ? |
| 16:02.41 | codrus | helpme: did the USB0 show up after you did it? |
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| 16:03.03 | jordanm | !noipv6 |
| 16:03.03 | dpkg | [noipv6] To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo install ipv6 /bin/true >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for the changes to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
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| 16:04.33 | codrus | taras: isn't that for wifi? |
| 16:04.36 | qq- | Iran, aptitude install eggdrop |
| 16:04.56 | taras | codrus: yeah, its wifi |
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| 16:06.15 | Iran | qq- is that will allowed all user on login to have option for installing eggdrop or psybnc? |
| 16:06.29 | qq- | Iran, grr, "get root account" |
| 16:06.52 | Iran | and? |
| 16:06.55 | gui_ | do you know a tool to check raid for megaraid driver please ? |
| 16:07.13 | qq- | Iran, use su to get that |
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| 16:07.51 | Iran | qq-, im really thank ful that you are trying help me but Im not following can you explain more about that? |
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| 16:08.09 | qq- | Iran, not sure that you needs |
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| 16:08.31 | codrus | jordanm: ok installed sudo. i'm going to go test it. Thanks |
| 16:09.17 | Iran | let me say what im looking for when you login to you shell account it gives you for example trye 1 if you need to have eggdrop so users will not download the eggdrop and complie it its already ther e |
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| 16:10.20 | Iran | let say like this "get eggdrop" and it dose everything liek install and compile it with automatic |
| 16:11.25 | qq- | !tell Iran about grounding |
| 16:11.56 | qq- | !tell Iran about permissions |
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| 16:12.46 | xlotlu | meh. flash under nspluginwrapper crashes in nspr |
| 16:12.59 | Iran | qq- thanks , |
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| 16:14.03 | qq- | !tell Iran about selftell |
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| 16:17.12 | BiGViC | man forget w_scan is a pain the ass I tried 2 hours already wast of time :( :( |
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| 16:20.41 | factor | How do I get a OSS app to play along with my other apps. |
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| 16:20.43 | jauiwojau | "How can I achieve the following: initialising variables for all scripts that I execute within user account X. E.g. I want that all scripts work with the variable $SUPERDIR initialised with "/home/superdir" . Normally I do that with ~/.bashrc, but that doesn't seem to work for scripts. |
| 16:21.00 | factor | I cant seem to run soundtracker I am using stable kde |
| 16:21.12 | factor | soundtracker uses /dev/dsp |
| 16:21.24 | factor | the device is in /dev |
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| 16:23.06 | jauiwojau | anyone has a clue? |
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| 16:25.37 | qq- | tried /etc/bash.bashrc ? |
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| 16:27.00 | valdyn | jauiwojau: why would it not work for scripts? |
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| 16:29.02 | fantasticulous | hey how can i speed up the 'reading database' part of apt-get install ? |
| 16:29.58 | themill | fantasticulous: have fewer repos in your source.list, buy a faster disk or get more memory so that the files are cached... |
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| 16:30.18 | fantasticulous | isn't there a way to optimize the db? |
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| 16:32.27 | b_jonas | hello |
| 16:32.30 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... can i load the qt/kde 3 libs on startup ? |
| 16:32.41 | b_jonas | on the mirrors, is etch supposed to be in the debian-archive or the debian directory? |
| 16:35.14 | Iran | how should i know how many ppl are connected to debian server? is it netstat? |
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| 16:35.37 | rvsjoen | connected how |
| 16:36.02 | rvsjoen | for ssh, use w |
| 16:36.11 | themill | b_jonas: /topic |
| 16:36.58 | b_jonas | oh, thanks! |
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| 16:37.22 | b_jonas | I was asking because for some reason I didn't see it either in archives or the normal on some mirrors |
| 16:37.26 | b_jonas | but maybe I was just wrong |
| 16:37.32 | b_jonas | I did find it in archive now |
| 16:37.56 | themill | b_jonas: unless the mirror is also mirroring archive.debian.org (which is possible, I guess) it won't be on the mirrors at all now. |
| 16:38.34 | b_jonas | themill: right, but somehow I saw a mirror with sarge and older in the archives, maybe it wasn't fresh |
| 16:39.04 | Bushmills | !buzz |
| 16:39.05 | dpkg | rumour has it, buzz is Debian 1.1, released June 1996 (474 packages, 2.0 kernel, fully ELF, dpkg). Ask me about <archive>. |
| 16:39.22 | Bushmills | gone that route |
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| 16:41.35 | andres833 | hi all |
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| 16:41.48 | andres833 | some person use ffmp3 with video |
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| 16:45.09 | tuv | since hal's fdi files started being ignored by X, i have not managed to get touchpad two-finger emulation working again, even after duplicating my fdi settings in xorg.conf |
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| 16:47.36 | pseubodot | if I consistantly get 'hash sum mismatch' errors off an official mirror, should I follow up with anyone? |
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| 16:52.14 | b_jonas | ah, so I first need to update the debian-archive-keyring package, and only then download the packages from archive |
| 16:52.17 | b_jonas | makes sense |
| 16:52.35 | b_jonas | I hate this old box |
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| 16:53.07 | david00 | Hey all |
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| 16:53.44 | david00 | Why does nagios3-cgi package install its CSS stylesheets under /etc/nagios3/stylesheets? |
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| 16:54.35 | jauiwojau | valdyn: I don't know. Should it? I tested a script by echoing the content of a variable set in ~/.bashrc. It echoed an empty string. |
| 16:55.29 | grim | i just installed a new box with testing last night, and today i'm getting oom's from udev during boot. this machine has had problems in the past, but is anyone aware of anything going on in testing with udev? |
| 16:55.47 | cahoot | !bts |
| 16:55.48 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 16:56.24 | grim | cahoot: i didn't see anything there, and since i can't boot the machine, i can't get package info... so using reportbug isn't really an option |
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| 16:59.23 | cahoot | grim: was just a try to help figure out if it's a known problem |
| 16:59.29 | jair | jordanm: all done, thank you so much =) it looks like I I am set and I can customize the grub boot loader =) |
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| 17:02.20 | BiGViC | how do I can channels for Totem? |
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| 17:02.59 | Xunie | What's the difference between amd64 and ia64? |
| 17:03.07 | simonrvn | !ia64 |
| 17:03.07 | dpkg | [ia64] (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>. |
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| 17:03.46 | Xunie | simonrvn, thanks! |
| 17:03.54 | Xunie | Gee, dpkg really is handy! :D |
| 17:04.00 | simonrvn | quite |
| 17:04.21 | Xunie | I hate asking noob questions though. ;_; |
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| 17:06.28 | grim | chitragupt: i know, and that's why i looked there first :) |
| 17:06.35 | jordanm | Xunie: you can search dpkg factoids so that you do not need to ask. try: /msg dpkg listkeys ia64 and /msg dpkg listvals ia64 |
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| 17:06.58 | mms_ | can unetbootin be used to make a xp cd iso image to usb flash for booting and installing xp on to netbook ? |
| 17:06.59 | slysir | lit |
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| 17:08.08 | factor | no one know s how to get soundtracker to work under ALSA? |
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| 17:08.33 | jordanm | mms_: doubt it, ask ##windows |
| 17:10.23 | cahoot | wouldn't it also violate the EULA? |
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| 17:14.17 | jordanm | cahoot: of windows? |
| 17:14.42 | BiGViC | does anyone know how I can scan for channels for Totem? |
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| 17:15.10 | jordanm | cahoot: things like bart's PE work around that by requiring the actual CD, and not distributing the MS binaries |
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| 17:17.05 | cahoot | truly reassuring |
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| 17:20.07 | Xunie | jordanm, I know, I will do that from now. |
| 17:20.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've got a process which is supposed to run for about 8 hours, but it seems to have stopped after a much shorter time and without completing its job. There's no error in the output of the process, it seems it just got killed off |
| 17:20.19 | Xunie | I barely think about it myself... :| |
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| 17:20.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | what would be most useful to find out what's wrong with it and get to fix it? valgrind? gdb? |
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| 17:21.25 | brixsat | dir |
| 17:21.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's supposed to do quite a bit of number crunching, not sure how useful it is to run that within valgrind |
| 17:21.50 | brixsat | hello how do i use git? i have made apt-get install git and now when i type git command not found |
| 17:22.02 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: strace if you have unlimited disc space to log to? |
| 17:22.08 | jelly-home | !git |
| 17:22.08 | dpkg | Git is a version control system created by Linus Torvalds, currently used to maintain the Linux kernel. Install the 'git-core' package to provide. http://cworth.org/hgbook-git/tour http://git-scm.com/ #git on irc.freenode.net. |
| 17:22.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm |
| 17:22.11 | valdyn | brixsat: read the documentation? |
| 17:22.13 | jordanm | brixsat: git-core or git-common |
| 17:22.23 | jordanm | !tell brixsat about apt-file |
| 17:22.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, I'm really not sure what can cause that... bit in the dark... strace might be a bit... noisy, yes |
| 17:23.28 | jelly-home | !qotd0 |
| 17:23.28 | dpkg | <jpinx> can I edit sources.list in windows wordpad without screwing it up? * jpinx has an e2fs reader in XP |
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| 17:23.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think I saw a similar problem with a computer that was - in effect - overclocked... processes just got killed by the kernel when they used 100% CPU (it wasn't supposed to be overclocked, but the DIE wasn't as good as AMD thought, so it should have been run at lower frequency) |
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| 17:24.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | ahah... I found why it stops |
| 17:24.43 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: I think you just difined the entire athlon64 and pentium 4 series CPUs.. |
| 17:24.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | no disk space :))) |
| 17:24.52 | jordanm | defined |
| 17:24.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 17:25.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | so that was easy, really! |
| 17:25.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | just gotta make some space, then |
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| 17:28.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, well, it was a dual-processor machine, and it seems to have been true only for one of the processors... that didn't help much, though |
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| 17:31.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, are you saying this type of thing was common, but doesn't happen anymore? :) |
| 17:32.00 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: I am saying at the end of the single core era, both chip makers were producing some really hot-running CPUs |
| 17:32.16 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: these days, those defects are called tri-core I believe :) |
| 17:32.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought it's all quad these daysa |
| 17:33.05 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: defective quads are marketed as 3 core CPUs by AMD |
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| 17:33.35 | jordanm | athlon II x3s |
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| 17:34.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | haha, nice |
| 17:37.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, I guess it was because of the problems I used to have on the previous machines with overheating, which seemed to have resulted in processes being killed, I didn't think of checking disk space |
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| 17:52.05 | Bennit | Hellow |
| 17:52.15 | Bennit | Which proftpd-admin tools do you guys suggest? |
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| 17:52.43 | Bennit | any apt-get-able tools? |
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| 17:55.45 | ham5 | get much with apt searchable tools? |
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| 17:59.42 | tharkun | On lxde i can't fire up gcalc ? I get this error -> (gcalctool:11809): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: it is a freshly installed lenny. with minimal drivers using expert install on lxde Desktop |
| 18:00.11 | poisonbit | tharkun, try launching as plain user |
| 18:01.34 | tharkun | poisonbit: thx, i didn't realize i was doing it as root :) |
| 18:01.55 | poisonbit | It happens to me sometime too |
| 18:01.57 | poisonbit | :) |
| 18:02.07 | tharkun | btw how do i add a program to the lxde menu? |
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| 18:04.08 | craigevil | tharkun: copy the foo.desktop to /usr/share/applications |
| 18:04.14 | aryaeskan | what's the difference between Add/Remove Software and Synaptic? |
| 18:04.14 | poisonbit | tharkun, looking at google it seems to use .desktop standard files, as gnome or kde .desktop files |
| 18:04.46 | craigevil | aryaeskan: Add/Remove is prettier |
| 18:04.59 | aryaeskan | how come I don't need root permission for add/remove? |
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| 18:05.21 | tharkun | craigevil: thx you made the day |
| 18:05.24 | craigevil | it opens as root, syanptic does for me |
| 18:05.36 | tharkun | poisonbit: thx again |
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| 18:07.03 | craigevil | aryaeskan: Exec=su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic thats the Synaptic command on my system, if I havent already opened something as root it asks for password, if i have it doesnt |
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| 18:08.19 | craigevil | tharkun: the info in the .desktop file has to be correct, took me forever to get Thunderbird to show up on the menu |
| 18:08.36 | jordanm | craigevil: that is only if you select to have the password cached |
| 18:08.47 | aryaeskan | I know that, but add/remove doesn't ask for the root password |
| 18:09.12 | jordanm | aryaeskan: you may have already opened it or something else as root, and opted to have the password saved for the session |
| 18:09.16 | Neozonz | how do I get debian to install squid 3.1, i use apt-get but it installs v3.0 and squid website says the normal apt-get install squid3 should get the latest version |
| 18:09.17 | craigevil | jordanm: right the gnome-keyring stores it here, im the only one that uses the pc so i have it set to save for session |
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| 18:09.26 | Neozonz | http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/BinaryPackages#KnowledgeBase.2BAC8-Debian.Squid-3.1 <-- but mine installs 3.0 |
| 18:09.26 | aryaeskan | ah, I didn't know that could be done |
| 18:09.39 | ronghail | why does debian hack in /etc/bash.bashrc to bash? |
| 18:09.48 | jordanm | aryaeskan: try to logout and log back in to see if it functions properly |
| 18:09.55 | ronghail | why does debian set environment variables in that file? |
| 18:10.33 | jordanm | ronghail: mine does not, but perhaps they are specific to bash |
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| 18:10.45 | ronghail | hmm maybe it is a ubuntu thing then |
| 18:10.50 | AlicanC | Hi, I am on a shared machine and I'm not root/sudoer. I put "rtorrent" and required libraries somewhere in my user directory but when I run it, I get "libtorrent.so.10: cannot open shared object file". The libraries are there, in the same directory, how can I make this work? |
| 18:10.54 | ronghail | sorry, should have confirmed that |
| 18:10.58 | jordanm | !ubuntu |
| 18:10.59 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 18:11.10 | latenite | Hi folks, I try to get my umts modem to work with wvdial but get this errot |
| 18:11.12 | AlicanC | Descriptive image, http://alicanc.com/gallery/galleries/fsc.glry/images/2010-06-24_210810.png |
| 18:11.13 | latenite | http://pastie.org/1017559 |
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| 18:11.14 | ronghail | yeah yeah |
| 18:11.42 | ronghail | I take back the apology since I got chastised anyway |
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| 18:12.23 | jordanm | he apologized for the wrong thing anyways... |
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| 18:13.44 | craigevil | AlicanC: why not just get the person that has root access to install rtorrent for you, or use something like Opera |
| 18:14.04 | AlicanC | it is a web host |
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| 18:14.54 | wilvl | AlicanC: whu delve into aria2 or other console versions? |
| 18:15.39 | AlicanC | wilvl, what? |
| 18:16.04 | Bennit | anyone got this error when going from lenny to squeeze? |
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| 18:16.05 | Bennit | W: Failed to fetch http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/testing/volatile/main/binary-i386/Packages |
| 18:16.20 | Bennit | googling it tells me it's due to apt sources.list handling |
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| 18:16.36 | Bennit | and that ia32-apt-get version 15 fixes it |
| 18:16.43 | Bennit | but how to update if it's broken? |
| 18:16.44 | wilvl | AlicanC: sorry if i was unclear, i meant you could delve into console apps for the same purpose like aria2 and the like. |
| 18:16.53 | Bennit | comment out the volatile branch? |
| 18:17.55 | tharkun | craigevil: Where can i check the correct syntax, or info needed to acomplish it. It seems it is not automagically generated |
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| 18:18.01 | Bennit | the error however seems to be only occurring for amd64 tough, not for i386 |
| 18:18.08 | craigevil | Bennit: there is no volatile for squeeze |
| 18:18.12 | Bennit | oki |
| 18:18.38 | Bennit | perhaps a silly Q but what does that branch include? /me translates volatile |
| 18:18.41 | craigevil | tharkun: find a similar app and copy it changing the Exec and Icon for the app you want |
| 18:18.45 | Bennit | seems like a word denoting 'eldered packages' |
| 18:18.48 | eptalon | I have a software raid (mdadm), with 4 harddrives (3xraid5, 1xraid1); These probably use 4k sectors. Since I have probably lost the data anyway, big q: how do I go about formatting/partitioning them? |
| 18:19.06 | latenite | anyone? |
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| 18:19.20 | eptalon | (currently running off a live cd as I shot my grub install |
| 18:19.26 | craigevil | Bennit: volatile is for things like clamav that change often |
| 18:19.27 | tharkun | craigevil: thx, i was just implementing that method, although a reference is allways good to keep |
| 18:19.33 | Bennit | I see |
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| 18:21.05 | craigevil | tharkun: the .dsektop files can be a bit of a pain, i stuck Firefox in there and it was on the menu, Thunderbird looked right but didnt show up until I installed and copied the Icedove.desktop |
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| 18:22.31 | tharkun | craigevil: yes, .desktop files are a pita specially when you are in a rush to hand out a workstation |
| 18:23.05 | wilvl | latenite: i dont know about your error, but i followed without a hitch these hints: http://www.skuro.tk/2009/02/15/tutorial-vodafone-umts-modem-on-a-debian-lenny/ |
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| 18:24.11 | Neozonz | how can i install squid 3.1 on debian rather then 3.0 - I use apt-get install squid3 but it installs 3.0 instead of 3.1 ... |
| 18:24.55 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: Why? |
| 18:25.07 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions squid |
| 18:25.08 | judd | squid -- etch: 2.6.5-6etch5; etch-security: 2.6.5-6etch5; etch-backports: 2.7.STABLE3-4.1~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.7.STABLE3-4.1; lenny-security: 2.7.STABLE3-4.1lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.7.STABLE7-1~bpo50+1; sid: 2.7.STABLE9-2; squeeze: 2.7.STABLE9-2 |
| 18:25.35 | Vroomfondle | ,versions squid3 |
| 18:25.37 | judd | squid3 -- etch: 3.0.PRE5-5+etch2; etch-security: 3.0.PRE5-5+etch2; lenny: 3.0.STABLE8-3+lenny2; lenny-security: 3.0.STABLE8-3+lenny3; lenny-backports: 3.1.3-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.1.3-2; sid: 3.1.4-1 |
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| 18:25.57 | Neozonz | teh squid website says i should be able to install 3.1 with just apt-get install squid3 |
| 18:26.14 | eptalon | how do I format a drive to be aligned to 4k? |
| 18:26.21 | Neozonz | http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/BinaryPackages#KnowledgeBase.2BAC8-Debian.Squid-3.1 <--- |
| 18:26.25 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: Not that you're giving us much to go on, but assuming you're running lenny, just aptititude install -t lenny-backports squid3 |
| 18:26.30 | brixsat | how do i install firefox on debian lenny? |
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| 18:26.44 | eptalon | brixsat: apt-get install iceweasel |
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| 18:26.51 | Vroomfondle | brixsat: it's called iceweasel on Debian |
| 18:27.00 | Vroomfondle | (trademark issues) |
| 18:27.04 | latenite | wilvl, well I have my wvdial just like taht: http://pastie.org/1017590 still same error |
| 18:27.06 | brixsat | eptalon, i dont want iceweasel i want fireox |
| 18:27.25 | eptalon | brixsat: what's the difference? |
| 18:27.49 | brixsat | plugins and addons |
| 18:28.04 | eptalon | brixsat: 100% compatible. |
| 18:28.04 | Traubert | they should work fine |
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| 18:28.13 | eptalon | IIRC its just a name change. |
| 18:28.20 | jhutchins_lt | they do work fine. |
| 18:28.22 | brixsat | but why can i have firefo? |
| 18:28.26 | wilvl | latenite: strange, i even used that on another modem of different provider. What cat /etc/debian_version ? |
| 18:28.27 | jhutchins_lt | name and logo, that's all. |
| 18:28.48 | jhutchins_lt | brixsat: Of course, you can always use the mozilla installer. Makes a mess of your system, but you can. |
| 18:29.00 | jhutchins_lt | !tell brixsat why iceweasel |
| 18:29.07 | Neozonz | jhutchins_lt: didn't go.... no packages will be installed |
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| 18:29.26 | tharkun | A light gui email client? |
| 18:29.31 | brixsat | !tell brixsat about iceweasel |
| 18:29.48 | eptalon | tharkun: icedove |
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| 18:29.54 | tharkun | !tell brixsat about selftell |
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| 18:31.19 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: Check the instructions page for backports, it's aptitude -t lenny-backports install âpackageâ (I use install in the wrong order). |
| 18:31.40 | brixsat | i have not understand why iceweasel |
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| 18:31.57 | brixsat | the tell brixsat why iceweasel return nothing |
| 18:33.42 | jhutchins_lt | why iceweasel |
| 18:33.46 | jhutchins_lt | !why iceweasel |
| 18:33.47 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
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| 18:33.50 | Neozonz | jhutchins_lt: still nothing.... does the package name have to be exact with version number or can it just be squid3 |
| 18:34.52 | craigevil | brixsat: download firefox, extract, create a shortcut to launch it, symlink the plugins 5 minutes work and you have firefox |
| 18:35.13 | brixsat | craigevil, thanks |
| 18:35.19 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: squid3 appears to be correct. Have you followed the instructions at backports to set up the repository? |
| 18:35.45 | Neozonz | no :o |
| 18:36.24 | brixsat | another thing how to install flash on devian 64bits? |
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| 18:37.29 | craigevil | brixsat: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=18388&start=15#p272654 how i use firefox, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53036 64bit flash howto |
| 18:37.52 | factor | what program can record the audio comping out of the raw audio port |
| 18:37.53 | AimHere | You might find it hard finding a copy of the 64-bit flash for linux these days. Didn't they take the binary off the website/ |
| 18:38.01 | factor | audacity is not working for me . |
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| 18:40.59 | JordiGH | Why does sudo know to put /usr/sbin and /sbin in the PATH when I execute a command? |
| 18:41.12 | riversky | wut... |
| 18:41.36 | JordiGH | This, basically: http://codepad.org/wqQxr4Xi |
| 18:41.39 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Because someone told it to. |
| 18:41.45 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: It uses root's path. |
| 18:41.56 | JordiGH | jhutchins_lt: Brilliant. How do you tell it to do so? |
| 18:42.46 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Not sure, I assume it's coded into the binary to use the root environment. |
| 18:43.00 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: It's like using the correct form of su, su -. |
| 18:43.22 | JordiGH | Hm, it doesn't work in other GNU systems, so I'm trying to fix it there. |
| 18:43.48 | JordiGH | Ah, env_reset in sudoers. |
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| 18:44.49 | b_jonas | JordiGH: the manpage says it's changed by a debian patch |
| 18:45.04 | b_jonas | JordiGH: "Note, however, that the PATH environment variable is further modified in Debian because of the use of the SECURE_PATH build option." |
| 18:45.20 | JordiGH | b_jonas: Ah, it is a Debian patch. |
| 18:45.20 | JordiGH | Oh well. |
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| 18:54.59 | twantakur | hello .. is there debian based usb live linux? |
| 18:55.10 | JordiGH | I think DSL is Debian-based. |
| 18:55.39 | twantakur | i mean lenny based |
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| 18:56.29 | dcbevins | antix is mepis based which is debian based, it uses the texting repo's hoever, you could always set them to stable/lenny, the live cd can install to a usb drive as live and persistant |
| 18:56.31 | b_jonas | twantakur: yes, these days debian lenny itself has live versions |
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| 18:57.00 | b_jonas | I even tried the CD rescue version and it worked. I haven't tried it on USB yet, but it is supposed to work |
| 18:57.05 | b_jonas | twantakur: http://live.debian.net/ |
| 18:57.18 | tharkun | eptalon: thx, difference among both evolution 73.6 Mb icedove 11.4 Mb |
| 18:57.33 | dcbevins | then there us UNetbootin a program that will "make" many distor's into usblive distor's |
| 18:57.49 | dcbevins | there is that is |
| 18:58.03 | twantakur | thx |
| 18:58.36 | dcbevins | ues testing repo's i meant, i cant type |
| 18:58.40 | dcbevins | see |
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| 18:59.42 | twantakur | i want it works like slax that load in memory |
| 18:59.45 | tharkun | themill: Haven't you thought about a factoid on the 64 bit adobe fu? |
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| 19:03.25 | mguy | dcbevins: I've found unetbootin to be inconsisten |
| 19:03.44 | abrotman | to say the least ... |
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| 19:05.12 | base64 | he when I boot with a raid5 array connected and powered on, I get weird boot errors concerning my maind rive which is not even part of the array, can anyone help? |
| 19:05.28 | rahul_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:06.34 | craigevil | tharkun: claws is even lighter than icedove |
| 19:08.47 | tharkun | craigevil: i'll take a look at it, btw do you know how to make submenus within the main menu on lxde, It seems i can only use those allready installed |
| 19:11.24 | craigevil | tharkun: sorry no idea, you might try adding or editing a file in .local/share/desktop-directories/menu-xdg |
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| 19:14.03 | craigevil | tharkun: xdg-utils has some tools for editing the menu no clue how to use them but it might be worth a look |
| 19:14.33 | Xunie | http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz <<<<<< is an image for a USB drive, can I just dd if=./boot.img.gz of=/dev/sdb (ofcourse, sdb being my usb stick)? |
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| 19:14.35 | eyeris | I just upgraded a system from etch to lenny. I rebooted and now it can't find /dev/md1, which is /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 in raid1, and has my root fs on it! |
| 19:14.39 | Xunie | Because that isn't clear to me. |
| 19:14.52 | dondelelcaro | eyeris: do you see /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1? |
| 19:14.55 | Xunie | Wait... |
| 19:15.02 | Xunie | I need to use zcat! |
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| 19:15.35 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Xunie about usb install |
| 19:15.39 | eyeris | dondelelcaro: do you mean in the boot msgs? |
| 19:16.00 | dondelelcaro | eyeris: I mean when you get to the busybox prompt when the initrd fails to mount the root filesystem |
| 19:16.01 | Xunie | jhutchins_lt, I already did check that in dpkg. |
| 19:16.01 | jhutchins_lt | Xunie: If you have any comments or contributions to those docs they would be apprecited. |
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| 19:16.30 | mordocai | Hello, is there a way to see the "patch notes" of specific packages that are to be updated with apt-get upgrade? I don't want to have to wade through all the notes, but i'd like to be able to see changes with certain packages. I'm using debian-testing, what's the best way to do this? (I've found solutions online, all the ones i found wanted to show me all patch notes.) |
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| 19:16.52 | eyeris | No |
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| 19:17.17 | eyeris | I don't. I see ide0 listed |
| 19:17.24 | craigevil | tharkun: actual xdg-desktop-menu --manual covers do what you want, its in the xdg-utils package |
| 19:17.55 | tharkun | craigevil: thx i'll fetch it, How did you knew about that? |
| 19:18.01 | eyeris | dondelelcaro: was sd renamed to ide in lenny? |
| 19:18.14 | eyeris | Was I supposed to update my md config? |
| 19:18.31 | eyeris | The readme for mdadm said that it handled the conf file automatically |
| 19:18.35 | craigevil | tharkun: was looking through the xdg packages i had installed |
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| 19:20.28 | fas3r | can i use virtualbox to do virtual machine without Xserver on a dedicated server (i need to use aix virtual machine ..) ? |
| 19:20.41 | tharkun | craigevil: thx I'll research those also :) |
| 19:22.18 | Vroomfondle | fas3r: I think you can do it using vboxmanage, but I haven't done so myself |
| 19:22.20 | Vroomfondle | http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html |
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| 19:24.13 | b_jonas | fas3r: I think you can |
| 19:25.22 | b_jonas | fas3r: the command is something like vboxheadless --startvm vmname --vrdp=off |
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| 19:30.08 | fas3r | thank for your help i will try Vroomfondle b_jonas |
| 19:30.35 | fas3r | because if i need interface it's just for the install after i will use ssh to connect on it |
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| 19:31.02 | klawd | hi! how can i bind backslash to caps lock? |
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| 19:31.13 | cahoot | xmodmap |
| 19:31.22 | eptalon | ?? |
| 19:31.31 | klawd | cahoot |verbose |
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| 19:32.00 | eptalon | how do i create aligned partitions, for a future RAID? |
| 19:32.15 | cahoot | http://www.ehow.com/how_2180748_command-linux-swap-keyboard-keys.html |
| 19:32.50 | cahoot | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO-15.html |
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| 19:39.59 | jhutchins_lt | eptalon: My guess is that of the few raid users you might have caught here none has dealt with 4k clusters. You're gonna have to go to google for that one. |
| 19:40.18 | JordiGH | Holy shit, you can raid that much? |
| 19:40.40 | JordiGH | Like, all of that on one card? |
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| 19:41.32 | qq- | JordiGH, fine jock ;) |
| 19:41.36 | abrotman | what is he asking? |
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| 19:42.00 | eyeris | I still can't access my server after upgrading it from etch to lenny. |
| 19:42.08 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: what's wrong with 4k clusters? (other than being kind of small) |
| 19:42.32 | eyeris | It can't build my md array. It says 'mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md1' |
| 19:42.48 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: Um, maybe we meant 4m. |
| 19:43.06 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: Whatever the new standard is. eyeris is trying to figure out how to set up his raid. |
| 19:43.21 | bkraptor | has anyone tried using LXDE instead of Gnome? |
| 19:43.26 | abrotman | two people asking two different raid questions |
| 19:43.49 | jhutchins_lt | bkraptor: Yes, people have. |
| 19:43.56 | eyeris | jhutchins_lt: I set it up two years ago. |
| 19:44.09 | bkraptor | jhutchins_lt: how was it? |
| 19:44.32 | jhutchins_lt | bkraptor: A little more tricky to manage, but it seems like a nice lightweight DE. |
| 19:44.34 | eyeris | jhutchins_lt: It's worked fine for two years. I just upgraded to lenny and now lenny apparently can't find /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1 (which back /dev/md1) |
| 19:44.42 | jhutchins_lt | bkraptor: I use KDE myself. |
| 19:44.59 | eyeris | What kernel version should my system have now that I've upgraded to lenny? |
| 19:45.05 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 19:45.05 | jordanm | .26 |
| 19:45.07 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 19:45.12 | eyeris | I thought it was supposed to be 2.6.26 but grub lists 2.6.18 |
| 19:45.17 | eyeris | Could that be the cause of my problem? |
| 19:45.19 | jordanm | thats the etch kernel |
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| 19:46.09 | jordanm | eyeris: did you read the release notes? |
| 19:46.10 | eyeris | Is there a generic boot disk for lenny that will let me boot into my system? |
| 19:46.25 | eyeris | jordanm: Yes, the ones that seemed to pertain to my situation. Did I miss something? |
| 19:46.25 | jordanm | you can chroot from any livecd |
| 19:46.46 | jordanm | I would have expected you to have the correct kernel, if you followed the proper proceedure |
| 19:46.47 | eyeris | I can't chroot into it if I can't mount it though |
| 19:47.00 | jordanm | why wouldn't you be able to mount it from a livecd? |
| 19:47.04 | jordanm | is it encrypted? |
| 19:47.26 | eyeris | Will the livecd detect my raid setup? |
| 19:47.33 | eyeris | Isn't that only in my initramfs? |
| 19:48.14 | jordanm | software raid wouldn't be worth a crap if you couldn't recover from another sytem. I am not real familar with it though |
| 19:48.27 | jordanm | I am betting some kind of mdadm --detect or similar |
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| 19:49.46 | bkraptor | any idea on when squeeze might get released? |
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| 19:50.03 | bzed | !release |
| 19:50.03 | dpkg | Lenny was released on 2009-02-14. Lenny is Debian 5.0 and is now considered "stable". Ask me about <install debian>, or <etch->lenny> to upgrade from Etch. See http://www.debian.org/releases/ or <release history> for the latest (and historical) releases. |
| 19:50.15 | jordanm | !wwsr |
| 19:50.15 | bzed | hmm damn. |
| 19:50.15 | dpkg | Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/06/msg00002.html |
| 19:50.17 | dv- | would debian stable + kernel from experimental work ok? |
| 19:50.19 | eyeris | jordanm: from the release notes: Auto-assembly of RAID arrays in rescue mode can corrupt data |
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| 19:50.23 | bzed | jordanm: ah :D |
| 19:50.23 | mordocai | Is there any way from command line to view the changes to packages before i update to them? I noticed the GUI has the functionality. |
| 19:50.45 | bkraptor | thx |
| 19:50.51 | jordanm | mordocai: apt-listbugs for some. what gui shows a changelog? |
| 19:51.07 | mordocai | jordanm: Idk, whatever is default with debian testing GNOME. |
| 19:51.12 | craigevil | bkraptor: lxde is nice, its not as shiny as gnome or kde, |
| 19:51.22 | mordocai | jordanm: I'm at work and connecting via ssh is why i was wondering. |
| 19:51.44 | bkraptor | craigevil: I'm not concerned with bling, I want functionality and speed |
| 19:52.23 | craigevil | bkraptor: its much lighter and faster than gnome/kde |
| 19:52.24 | fas3r | Vroomfondle, well it's dead i have x86 processor and aix justrun on power cpu so .... :D |
| 19:52.40 | bkraptor | craigevil: what about functionality? |
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| 19:53.22 | craigevil | bkraptor: about the same, but it doesnt have the million and one apps that gnome/kde have |
| 19:53.24 | themill | mordocai: apt-listchanges does that for aptitude and apt-get |
| 19:53.53 | bkraptor | craigevil: aren't all gtk+ apps able to run just the same as in gnome? |
| 19:54.06 | craigevil | bkraptor: yes |
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| 19:56.27 | mordocai | themill: Okay, thanks. It says that apt-listchanges --apt will accept "specially formatted" pipeline from apt. How would I have it show the changes when i'm trying to do an upgrade with apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade? |
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| 19:56.40 | mordocai | themill: by "it" i mean the manual page... :) |
| 19:56.58 | themill | mordocai: just install it. |
| 19:57.57 | mordocai | themill: Oh, well it was already installed. It has been asking me occaisionally for some things, but not everything. |
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| 19:58.34 | themill | mordocai: set "which=both" in /etc/apt/listchanges.conf |
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| 19:59.50 | mordocai | themill: Ah, excellent. I actually just found that in the man pages and came back to say i found it lol :). Thank you very much! |
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| 20:00.01 | frikinz_ | aptitude-gtk shows the changelog too |
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| 20:00.12 | s3a | Could someone please tell me why "update-grub" gives me the following error message?: http://pastebin.com/06GSMVXY (in CHROOT) |
| 20:00.53 | rking | s3a: haha |
| 20:00.56 | mordocai | frikinz_: Yeah, i noticed that. My main problem was i usually do updates while at work, since it takes awhile for my connection to download. So i SSH in to my home box and run updates from command line. (I could use ssh -X, but that goes back to the "slow connection" problem) |
| 20:01.14 | rking | s3a: Oh, nm... I'm so stupid, I thought you meant that URL came out of the system. =) |
| 20:01.39 | s3a | lol |
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| 20:02.47 | rking | s3a: Did you look at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=52983 |
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| 20:03.54 | s3a | rking, no i didn't but how does that relate to my problem except for the "grub probe" part? |
| 20:04.16 | s3a | rking, i did http://pastebin.com/duG5qZrb |
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| 20:06.15 | s3a | rking, i found a ubuntuforums post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502504 |
| 20:06.21 | s3a | sounds like what im doing |
| 20:06.29 | s3a | what does chroot "live mode" mean? |
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| 20:07.40 | jordanm | I assume it means chroot from a livecd |
| 20:08.05 | rking | s3a: seems to just involve booting via some other means and then doing a grub-install, right? |
| 20:10.04 | s3a | rking, im in an ubuntu live cd and i want to rescue my practice ubuntu hard drive so i can then rescue my debian lvm system |
| 20:10.22 | s3a | my debian install is my important one so i dont want to do my learning on that |
| 20:10.30 | s3a | which is y i took out the power cables of the hard drive |
| 20:10.52 | s3a | and i have an external usb hdd connected to my pc and again im running a live cd |
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| 20:11.05 | s3a | rking, does that have anything to do with the error? |
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| 20:11.45 | jordanm | so you are asking for ubuntu support so you can apply what you learned to debian? that might be pushing the boundries of channel topic IMO |
| 20:12.01 | rking | jordanm: But it is a clever workaround, I'll admit. |
| 20:12.38 | s3a | but ubuntu and debian are so similar and i alredy asked in ubuntu |
| 20:12.41 | jordanm | or clever "social engineering" |
| 20:12.47 | s3a | well its true tho |
| 20:12.54 | s3a | i am doing this to practice for my debian |
| 20:13.04 | s3a | cuz i dont want to make a mistake and ruin that install |
| 20:13.04 | jordanm | s3a: I suggest #ubuntu |
| 20:13.10 | rking | s3a: I don't know too much about that particular error, but yes---general debugging principles involve 1) trying to replicate the failure conditions (which you're doing every time you boot) and then 2) replicate success conditions (such as bringing everything back to the way it was) and then 3) comparing the two before 4) coming up with a solution. |
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| 20:13.51 | s3a | aw cmon i would help u ppl if the situation was in reverse |
| 20:13.57 | s3a | (plus i alredy asked there) |
| 20:14.02 | s3a | no1 knows |
| 20:14.06 | s3a | all i got is that thread |
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| 20:15.02 | jordanm | !they don't know |
| 20:15.02 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 20:15.30 | s3a | LOL it's funny how there are pre-built answers to these questions |
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| 20:16.06 | jordanm | a lot of these questions, we see a lot |
| 20:16.11 | jordanm | !factinfo they don't know |
| 20:16.12 | dpkg | they don't know -- created by greycat <~wooledg@192.35.79.70> at Tue Mar 1 17:31:45 2005 (1941 days); it has been requested 366 times, last by jordanm, 1m 9s ago. |
| 20:16.14 | s3a | i dont like lying but everytime i say the truth i get burned :( |
| 20:16.16 | jhutchins_lt | s3a: The problem is that the differences between Debian and derived distros are often in the subtlties of configuration and rescue. |
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| 20:16.30 | jhutchins_lt | s3a: Ubuntu manages it's grub differently, and uses grub2 I beleive. |
| 20:16.53 | nomasteryoda | ya ubuntu 10.04 uses grub2 |
| 20:17.28 | themill | s3a: if you were using debian, we'd say "/msg dpkg fixgrub". No idea if that eats your firstborn or not when you're running some other distro though. Please ask them. |
| 20:17.29 | s3a | jhutchins, ya my squeeze install uses grub legacy but im going to upgrade it to grub 2 later, its because of a stupid attempt to convert to ext4 wen im dead tired |
| 20:17.32 | nomasteryoda | i'm using grub2 on Debian now too though |
| 20:18.08 | jhutchins_lt | We don't officially support squeeze here either. |
| 20:18.14 | s3a | themill, i dont care if it kills my ubuntu installation, it's meant only to practice |
| 20:18.30 | s3a | themill, i can always reinstall that |
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| 20:18.35 | s3a | wile using the live cd at the same time |
| 20:18.41 | jhutchins_lt | s3a: So ask ubuntu sources for ubuntu answers, and when you're ready to work on Debian we'll be glad to help. |
| 20:19.24 | s3a | ok, but ill be bak but itll be a few days because i have to get back to doing my physics work |
| 20:20.40 | jhutchins_lt | s3a: Great, we look forward to helping you. |
| 20:21.08 | s3a | :) k c u guys later |
| 20:21.10 | qq- | s3a, may ask in #grub also |
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| 20:21.22 | s3a | true ill keep it in mind next time |
| 20:21.26 | s3a | ill dual channel it |
| 20:21.42 | s3a | anyways bye guys |
| 20:21.44 | eyeris | dondelelcaro, jordanm: FYI the lenny rescue cd did let me mount my md devices and chroot into them. I still don't know how it knew which sd devices to use but, in case anyone else asks you the same thing, the rescue cd is magic :) |
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| 20:22.22 | jhutchins_lt | eyeris: URL for the iso? |
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| 20:23.44 | eryn_1983 | hey peeps i got a question |
| 20:24.01 | poutine | eryn_1983, wrong |
| 20:24.14 | eryn_1983 | periodically over the months years etc, i would swear i had of downloaded something and put it on my harddrives, |
| 20:24.23 | eryn_1983 | and then later on i can't find it |
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| 20:24.49 | eryn_1983 | is there a way to tell if there is something wrong with my drives |
| 20:25.24 | eryn_1983 | i use the smart drive software. i suppose i could check that, but i know its not definitive |
| 20:25.36 | eryn_1983 | is there any other oss tools that could help me out |
| 20:25.36 | jhutchins_lt | eryn_1983: smart, fsck, periodic checksums of the drive, find, etc. |
| 20:25.59 | eryn_1983 | i used find couldnt 'find' it lol |
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| 20:26.16 | eryn_1983 | its just weird i keep lossing files |
| 20:26.19 | eyeris | jhutchins_lt: I used the installer. It has a rescue mode. |
| 20:26.23 | nhak | which ISO Image should i use to install debian with an usb stick? |
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| 20:26.28 | eryn_1983 | its like one or two a year |
| 20:26.38 | jhutchins_lt | eyeris: Ah, not sure the netistall has that. |
| 20:26.44 | eryn_1983 | its not like i am losing half od my files i would notice that. |
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| 20:26.44 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ...how can i check for the daemons that load on boot ...cause i feel that there are stuff that i dont need |
| 20:26.45 | eryn_1983 | of |
| 20:26.51 | nhak | which ISO Image should i use to install debian with an usb stick? |
| 20:26.54 | eyeris | Yes, the netinst has it. That's the one I used. |
| 20:26.55 | nhak | can someone help me? |
| 20:26.56 | qq- | jhutchins, sure it does |
| 20:27.00 | jhutchins_lt | cobra-the-joker: rcconf |
| 20:27.13 | jhutchins_lt | qq-: God. |
| 20:27.17 | jhutchins_lt | qq-: Good even. |
| 20:27.20 | qq- | jhutchins_lt, |
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| 20:27.28 | cobra-the-joker | jhutchins_lt , ok |
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| 20:27.52 | qq- | jhutchins_lt, in expert mode |
| 20:27.52 | cobra-the-joker | jhutchins_lt , not found / |
| 20:27.53 | jhutchins_lt | eryn_1983: tripwire |
| 20:28.21 | jhutchins_lt | cobra-the-joker: Not installed by default. |
| 20:28.31 | cobra-the-joker | ah ok ..installed it |
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| 20:29.56 | cobra-the-joker | that will be a lot of reading |
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| 20:32.37 | nhak | where can i find a netinst or bussinesscard ISO image? |
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| 20:32.58 | nhak | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
| 20:33.27 | nhak | i cant found it here |
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| 20:35.07 | nsadmin_ | hi, trying to get a WD 2.5" pata 320g drive working... it's not spinning up (I have it in a pata <=> usb enclosure atm) |
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| 20:35.23 | mordocai | nhak: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso? |
| 20:35.40 | nsadmin_ | I'm in singleusermode atm too |
| 20:35.45 | mordocai | nhak: Sorry, put a ? at the end to make it a question, but it got added to the link! (duh me!) |
| 20:36.12 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... any one can redirect me to a good informative linux book ? |
| 20:36.39 | nsadmin_ | cobra-the-joker, "Learning the UNIX Operating System" |
| 20:36.55 | jhutchins_lt | http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
| 20:36.56 | nsadmin_ | cheap, small, gets you in to some degree |
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| 20:37.14 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin_ , UNIX ?! |
| 20:37.19 | nsadmin_ | yes. |
| 20:37.26 | nsadmin_ | what do you think linux is :) |
| 20:37.35 | mordocai | cobra-the-joker: personally, i like: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz. Read the intro to get an idea of what the book is like though :) |
| 20:37.52 | mordocai | cobra-the-joker: Plus it's online free, or you can buy a hard copy |
| 20:37.59 | cobra-the-joker | :D ..hmm , they always tell me that they very different in the modules and the build and stuff like that |
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| 20:38.13 | jhutchins_lt | cobra-the-joker: Or the link I posted, also free. |
| 20:38.29 | jhutchins_lt | cobra-the-joker: So learning the differences will be useful. |
| 20:38.49 | jhutchins_lt | cobra-the-joker: There is no one single UNIX. |
| 20:38.57 | nsadmin_ | cobra-the-joker but when you're typing at a shell as a nonroot user, it's almost identical, and many concepts are the same |
| 20:39.11 | cobra-the-joker | aha |
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| 20:40.04 | cobra-the-joker | i was hoping to make a shift for linux and take it seriously for buisness ....as i am amazed with the PC/desktop experience and they always say that its better for servers and enterprises |
| 20:40.30 | jhutchins_lt | cobra-the-joker: The http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html is good because it gets you started in good administrative practices which can save you a lot of greif. |
| 20:41.02 | nhak | thanks |
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| 20:41.20 | nsadmin_ | to a small degree it depends on your purpose but I think everyone needs to understand what dirs are where and enough about the shell to have you comfortable |
| 20:42.01 | cobra-the-joker | jhutchins_lt , i will start with that one i think |
| 20:42.17 | cobra-the-joker | and then the rute |
| 20:42.54 | nsadmin_ | and basic unix tools like cat, head, sort, uniq, grep, echo, you know, the little tools that each do only one thing |
| 20:43.25 | cobra-the-joker | i know most of these ...i used a shell before ...installed ArchLinux :D |
| 20:43.54 | cobra-the-joker | but the daemons and services and stuff like that . |
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| 20:44.04 | jhutchins_lt | cobra-the-joker: Other helpful stuff for the new user: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html |
| 20:44.18 | cobra-the-joker | jhutchins_lt , thats more like it :D |
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| 20:45.05 | nsadmin_ | cobra-the-joker, the better you are at the basics, the more full the language you will have to express problem solutions in |
| 20:45.09 | eptalon | Is it possible to install grub in anther mbr than the first hdd (when booting from lvm/raid)? |
| 20:45.28 | cobra-the-joker | aha |
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| 20:45.55 | Bennit | hello |
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| 20:46.14 | Bennit | http://pastebin.com/WKa1qf6q # upgraded from lenny->squeeze |
| 20:46.19 | jhutchins_lt | eptalon: Yes. |
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| 20:46.29 | Bennit | got a problem when apt-get installing / upgrading / updating |
| 20:46.33 | spersaud | can you safely remove an extended partition ? |
| 20:46.36 | nsadmin_ | Bennit: yay... now what |
| 20:46.49 | nsadmin_ | spersaud: what;s in that partition? |
| 20:46.55 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions udev |
| 20:46.56 | judd | udev -- etch: 0.105-4etch1; etch-security: 0.105-4etch1; lenny-security: 0.125-7+lenny1; lenny: 0.125-7+lenny3; sid: 157-1; squeeze: 157-1 |
| 20:46.57 | spersaud | without messing with the partitions in it ? |
| 20:47.13 | jhutchins_lt | Bennit: Solution is included in error message. |
| 20:47.20 | Bennit | -f? doesn't work |
| 20:47.22 | eptalon | jhutchins_lt: thanks. |
| 20:47.26 | Bennit | says my kernel isn't the good version |
| 20:47.28 | jhutchins_lt | spersaud: No. |
| 20:47.28 | Bennit | hang on |
| 20:47.39 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
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| 20:47.40 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 20:47.42 | nsadmin_ | "doesn't work" doesn't work :) |
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| 20:48.17 | rgammans | spersaud: IIRC, not really because the entry is a pointer to a block containing the extended ptable |
| 20:48.23 | jhutchins_lt | Bennit: aptitude -f install |
| 20:48.37 | Bennit | http://pastebin.com/uGb9tqCQ # this is what happens if I do that |
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| 20:48.55 | puff | I have two PDFs that are scans of some paperwork (2 pages). They're very heavy, about 1.2MB each, and most o fthat is the texture of the paper. What's the easiest way to downsample that? |
| 20:49.04 | puff | E.g. with imagemagick or netpbm? |
| 20:49.10 | Bennit | i'm running on 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 20:49.24 | Bennit | which is the latest new kernel for squeeze, no? |
| 20:49.25 | jhutchins_lt | Bennit: Do you feel we can be more explicit than "please upgrade your kernel"? |
| 20:49.31 | jhutchins_lt | Bennit: See above. |
| 20:49.43 | jhutchins_lt | Bennit: Judd just listed the available kernels. |
| 20:49.43 | Bennit | oh |
| 20:49.45 | Bennit | 2.6.32 |
| 20:49.51 | Bennit | yeah I noticed |
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| 20:50.03 | Bennit | thanks |
| 20:50.10 | eptalon | The 2.6.34 didnt work, beginning of the week. |
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| 20:50.55 | BlueG | I have a strange problem... One debian machine on my network can no longer resolve domain names. It can connect to the internet by IP address, but not domain names. I have restarted it, and I have tried changing dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0 from 192.168.1.1 (the router, which seems to be working as the nameserver for other desktop which is working) to 208.67.222.222 (OpenDNS). Regardless of what I set, this machine |
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| 20:51.51 | mguy | Whats in your resolv.conf? Are you somhow blocking dns packets (udp 53) |
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| 20:52.21 | frikinz_ | some routers don't handle well ipv6 (aaa?) dns requests too |
| 20:53.24 | BlueG | mguy: 192.168.1.254 *gasp* how did that get in there?? |
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| 20:54.15 | BlueG | let me guess... |
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| 20:54.29 | BlueG | dhclient put it there when I used it to connect to the modem |
| 20:54.50 | Bennit | hmm, perhaps this is a stupid Q, but how do I install those linux headers, or anything else if apt-get install *anything* keeps tossing me that udev dep error? |
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| 20:55.28 | BlueG | Thanks, mguy, problem solved |
| 20:55.28 | mguy | Bennit: What kernel are you running right now |
| 20:55.33 | BlueG | I'll remember that next time |
| 20:55.35 | Bennit | 26-2 |
| 20:56.04 | mguy | Bennit: install 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 20:56.18 | mguy | I had the same problem a few times and had to install, reboot, install, reboot install |
| 20:56.20 | Bennit | that's what I tried |
| 20:56.25 | mguy | it would go 1/3 of the way or something each time |
| 20:56.42 | Bennit | but I keep getting that dependency error before the kernel image is tried to get installed |
| 20:57.06 | mguy | pastebin.org the whole message |
| 20:57.07 | Bennit | http://pastebin.com/5PekTzeE |
| 20:57.07 | ikanobori | You can hold back udev, can't you? |
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| 20:57.21 | Bennit | googles *hold back* |
| 20:57.25 | jhutchins_lt | Bennit: You might try aptitude clean |
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| 20:57.35 | mguy | same thing I Got, install, reboot, install again, just try it |
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| 20:58.38 | Bennit | aptitude clean doesn't fix, now I'll try to find out how to hold back some packages |
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| 20:59.39 | jhutchins_lt | Bennit: I wonder if the kernel you're running (uname -r) matches the kernel you installed. |
| 20:59.41 | mordocai | Bennit: I've noticed that occaisionally it just doesn't want to install deps unless you specifically tell it to. You might try apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 udev linux-base firmware-linux-free xserver-xorg-core. Commands like that have fixed issues for me before. |
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| 21:00.28 | mguy | Bennit: Reboot and make sure you're in the right kernel |
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| 21:00.39 | Bennit | I'm updating remote |
| 21:00.45 | Bennit | can't check grub start line |
| 21:00.50 | mguy | ? |
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| 21:01.49 | mordocai | Bennit: Well, just doing ls /boot and comparing the highest version number with uname -r should tell you whether you are running the newest kernel that you have installed. If you aren't, then rebooting should automatically choose it (assuming grub updated aftewards, which it should have) |
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| 21:02.21 | Bennit | mordocai: and jhutchins_lt it's installed |
| 21:02.44 | Bennit | (the 2.6.26-2-686) |
| 21:02.55 | Bennit | (they are in my /boot) |
| 21:02.58 | mordocai | Bennit: Okay, and you don't have a higher version in /boot? |
| 21:03.07 | Bennit | nope |
| 21:03.16 | Bennit | only the 26-1 |
| 21:03.29 | Bennit | that's still in there besides the 26-2 |
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| 21:03.46 | mordocai | Bennit: Okay, did you try my install command above? Udev was complaining that the kernel wasn't being updated at the same time, so i'm thinking it -might- help. |
| 21:03.53 | craigevil | the udev error message has the fix in it |
| 21:04.06 | Bennit | craigevil: -f doesn't fix. |
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| 21:04.16 | factor | Anyone know how to get soundtracker to work. andything that uses OSS sound is just borked |
| 21:04.19 | craigevil | read the udev message |
| 21:04.22 | factor | how do I get ALSA stuff to work with OSS |
| 21:04.44 | mordocai | Bennit: He's talking about what i am: # # Please upgrade your kernel before or while upgrading udev. |
| 21:04.46 | Uni | can anyone tell me where I can find exactly what error is happening when a pkg fails to install? |
| 21:04.49 | Uni | Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.51a-24+lenny4_amd64.deb |
| 21:04.52 | Uni | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 21:04.57 | Uni | is not very descriptive about what's happening |
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| 21:06.02 | Bennit | mordocai: and craigevil I know I've tried installing the kernel, also tried with your combined command |
| 21:06.11 | Bennit | spots on |
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| 21:07.07 | Bennit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.15 | Bennit | is there no way to let him automatically resolve these? |
| 21:07.26 | mordocai | Bennit: Well, this could break things(as it warns) but you could always try touch /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade, and then try the command to install udev again. Just make sure you update kernel afterwards, before you reboot. |
| 21:07.43 | Bennit | cos I feel like I'm going to have a long command after all that |
| 21:07.53 | Uni | anyone? |
| 21:08.23 | Bennit | urgh it just keeps comming |
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| 21:08.41 | mordocai | Uni: Well, it's usually farther up in the output. If it's not, i think there's a log file. My debian server is rebooting, but it should be in /var/log/ somewhere |
| 21:08.58 | Bennit | I wonder though, why does it want to install that udev version so badly? |
| 21:09.56 | Uni | that's the only error msg |
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| 21:10.53 | Uni | and /var/log/dpkg.log is useless, there are no error msgs there, only status lines for packages |
| 21:11.14 | mordocai | Bennit: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566000 is your issue. It claims to be fixed, though. |
| 21:11.46 | smv | Uni, read what aptitude said while installing |
| 21:12.47 | Uni | smv: I just pasted what aptitude said |
| 21:12.55 | Uni | *EVERYTHING* it said |
| 21:13.01 | Uni | that wasn't a success message |
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| 21:13.19 | Uni | I can put the whole thing in a pastebin if you don't believe me |
| 21:13.32 | Bennit | mordocai: touched that 'hey I am installing a new kernel' file and installed new udev |
| 21:13.39 | Bennit | also installed the new kernel now |
| 21:13.51 | Bennit | I suppose I need to run update-grub? |
| 21:14.07 | mordocai | Bennit: Excellent :). I'd do a dist-upgrade and upgrade everything possible. usually apt will run update-grub for you. Won't hurt to run it again. |
| 21:14.24 | smv | Uni, perhaps will be better that way. usually aptitude sais many things |
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| 21:14.26 | Bennit | will hurt if it doesn't get run tough? |
| 21:14.46 | mordocai | Bennit: Yeah, system probably won't boot unless you manually change the grub settings (which you can't, since you are remote) |
| 21:15.00 | Uni | smv: http://pastebin.org/356987 |
| 21:15.07 | Uni | have fun finding a different error msg |
| 21:15.47 | mordocai | Uni: Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.1 to 5.0. |
| 21:15.53 | Uni | and yes |
| 21:16.06 | Uni | despite the fact that aptitude remove --purge was run on the 5.1 packages |
| 21:17.03 | Uni | and the extra packages have been cleaned with autoclean |
| 21:17.03 | Bennit | mordocai: hmm says I need some firmware from the tg3 series, is that the firmware-linux-free package? |
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| 21:17.03 | Uni | somewhere in the binary dump of metadata is a reference to the 5.1 crap |
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| 21:17.04 | Uni | but no useful error msgs, or apparent way to clean it out |
| 21:17.04 | craigevil | Bennit: firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 21:17.04 | adsasdasd | hello guys i have a debian server that need to serve dhcp on 2 subnets on one interface |
| 21:17.04 | mordocai | Bennit: Not sure about that. I'd assume cragevil has it right :) |
| 21:17.07 | adsasdasd | how should i do that |
| 21:17.07 | grand_grunt | Where can I find a "root" dir to export via NFS, for installing Debian Sparc through network? |
| 21:17.08 | Bennit | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso5.bin for module tg3 # are those in non-free? |
| 21:17.11 | Bennit | i guess so |
| 21:17.11 | mordocai | Bennit: craigevil rather |
| 21:17.26 | mordocai | Well, as long as you aren't using hardware that requires it you -should- be okay. |
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| 21:17.31 | smv | Uni, i guess the line 14 and line 33 should be more than enough. |
| 21:17.40 | Bennit | I am using hardware raid5 |
| 21:17.49 | Uni | because the 5.1 upgrade script wasn't smart enough to not put the mysql.plugin table in the db before stopping the 5.0 daemon (the 5.1 daemon won't start without it, so mysql_upgrade can't run) |
| 21:17.53 | adsasdasd | hello guys i have a debian server that need to serve dhcp on 2 subnets on one interface how should i do that somebody ? |
| 21:17.56 | Bennit | and ecc ram and also have a backup tape thingie which I don't use |
| 21:17.57 | Bushmills | grand_grunt: mkdir /sparcroot |
| 21:18.01 | Uni | err wasn't smart enough to put rather |
| 21:18.23 | mordocai | Uni: It is a useful error message. The system thinking it still is running 5.1. So, you know what the issue is. The problem is fixing it. |
| 21:18.31 | smv | Uni, see aptitude show mysql-server |
| 21:18.39 | petemc | adsasdasd: you declare the subnets in the config, its a common scenario |
| 21:18.43 | dutchfish | adsasdasd: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/forums/showthread.php/524-dhcpd-unable-to-serve-multiple-subnets |
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| 21:19.00 | grand_grunt | Bushmills: and? That's enough? No need to put stuff in it? I boot from "boot.img" (hard to find), I say "this is /root" and I'm done? Let my try :) |
| 21:19.01 | Uni | shows 5.0 data, adding to the pastebin now |
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| 21:19.18 | Bushmills | yes, you need to put stuff in. your sparc stuff |
| 21:19.21 | Uni | http://pastebin.org/356994 |
| 21:19.37 | hedos | Trying to install the package "away" with "apt-get install away" but I get the error: |
| 21:19.59 | hedos | "Package away is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source." |
| 21:20.12 | Bushmills | debootstrap can be used to populate |
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| 21:20.27 | hedos | Not sure what to do if I want to install the package anyway... |
| 21:20.30 | lindi- | hedos: sources.list? |
| 21:20.39 | grand_grunt | Bushmills: Mh, OK. There is no "ready to install" release, as for ISO cdrom? |
| 21:21.05 | mordocai | Bennit: Well, check http://hardware4linux.info/module/tg3/. If you don't have any of that hardware, i think you'll be fine. |
| 21:21.10 | Bushmills | no idea. you asked about the dir for exporting through nfs. that doesn't require populating |
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| 21:22.03 | hedos | lindi-: my sources.list is : http://pastebin.com/spam.php?i=LEFK0P4K |
| 21:22.34 | Uni | any ideas? |
| 21:23.34 | lindi- | hedos: http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ does not seem to reply |
| 21:23.36 | Bennit | I installed them mordocai, It's a hp server with some exotic ethernet port to allow ups communication |
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| 21:24.25 | mordocai | Bennit: Okay, yeah. No ethernet would be bad for remote connectivity :). As long as apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade) doesn't have any errors, you probably should be fine to reboot it. |
| 21:24.41 | Bennit | still running upgrade |
| 21:24.59 | Uni | anybody? |
| 21:25.00 | frikinz_ | Uni: do you have a /var/lib/mysql ? |
| 21:25.03 | Uni | yes |
| 21:25.07 | frikinz_ | erase it |
| 21:25.09 | hedos | lindi-: could it be because I'm on Debian 4.0 rather than 5.0? |
| 21:25.15 | Uni | um...no? |
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| 21:25.40 | hedos | lindi-: because it seems to be able to connect to some other source even if that one is down |
| 21:25.42 | Uni | I can't bring up the server to do a dump |
| 21:25.48 | Bennit | mordocai: only error-ish looking msg aptitude still throws is: This kernel does not seem to support TuxOnIce user interface, skipping... |
| 21:25.59 | Uni | need to retain the data |
| 21:26.00 | Bennit | doesn't seem anythng important though? |
| 21:26.13 | frikinz_ | Uni: maybe 5.1 db are not compatible with 5.0 ? |
| 21:26.23 | frikinz_ | backward compatible I meant |
| 21:26.24 | Bennit | they are |
| 21:26.28 | Bennit | I just upgraded mysql too |
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| 21:26.33 | Bennit | and my db is still working |
| 21:26.37 | Uni | I wasn't running 5.1 |
| 21:26.40 | Uni | I tried to upgrade |
| 21:26.46 | lindi- | hedos: "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free" might work better |
| 21:26.49 | Uni | and the upgrade broke |
| 21:26.50 | Bennit | I was running 5.0 and upgraded to 5.1 without problems earlier today |
| 21:26.51 | mordocai | Bennit: Yeah, it's for hibernation. So you should be fine as long as you don't -have- to hibernate. |
| 21:27.05 | frikinz_ | Bennit: I said backward compatible |
| 21:27.07 | mordocai | Bennit: Plus after you restart another upgrade will ikely fix |
| 21:27.14 | Bennit | hibernate, who uses that :p even for my laptop I don't use it anymore :D |
| 21:27.20 | Uni | apt-get remove --purge the new packages |
| 21:27.21 | frikinz_ | Uni: I don't see why you still have /var/lib/mysql if you purged mysql |
| 21:27.31 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... when i open some qt/kde application and click on hyperLink it opens in epiphany while any other application opens in firefox ... how can i make qt/kde applications open the hyperLink in firefox instead ? |
| 21:27.34 | Uni | because I told it not to delete the directory when it asked me |
| 21:28.05 | Bennit | yay, another 2gb of package retrieving |
| 21:28.14 | Bennit | texlive full probably is 1/4th of that :p |
| 21:28.42 | Bennit | anyways mordocai and craigevil thanks, I think I can move on :) |
| 21:29.05 | jhutchins_lt | Do you suppose it's too late to warn him about running testing on a remote server? |
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| 21:29.22 | Bennit | this install was a testing before lenny became the stable |
| 21:29.29 | craigevil | cobra-the-joker: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 21:29.49 | Uni | so here's another tidbit |
| 21:29.56 | Uni | db1:/etc# dpkg --force-all --purge mysql-server-5.1 |
| 21:29.56 | Uni | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mysql-server-5.1 which isn't installed. |
| 21:29.57 | dpkg | Uni: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 21:30.03 | puff | I'm having a problem with incoming email, not seeing it show up. |
| 21:30.12 | Uni | however it still tries to downgrade |
| 21:30.20 | Uni | from 5.1 to 5.0 |
| 21:30.31 | buntfalke | So Adobe only fixed the 32bit version of their Crashplayer and amd64 is out of luck unless one is willing to sacrifice system security? |
| 21:30.36 | puff | Was working fine until three days ago. Debian etch with postfix. |
| 21:30.43 | buntfalke | Or do I overlook something? |
| 21:31.02 | mordocai | Uni: I'm with frikinz_. I'm willing to bet it's becuase /var/lib/mysql is still there. |
| 21:31.03 | frikinz_ | buntfalke: flashblock works and you can fetch the old targz somewhere |
| 21:31.18 | jhutchins_lt | buntfalke: They pulled the 64b update. |
| 21:31.35 | jhutchins_lt | puff: logs |
| 21:31.42 | Bushmills | !etch |
| 21:31.42 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 21:31.50 | buntfalke | jhutchins_lt: where? i cant find it. |
| 21:31.50 | craigevil | buntfalke: back with the old way of using nspluginwrapper or a 32bit chroot |
| 21:32.21 | jhutchins_lt | Or just use the older package. |
| 21:32.25 | buntfalke | frikinz_: flashBlock isnt quite what i want. I need to use crappy corporate webpages. so i need working crash support. |
| 21:32.32 | buntfalke | craigevil: uff... |
| 21:32.44 | buntfalke | jhutchins_lt: old package, as in, remote exploits? no thanks. |
| 21:32.45 | jhutchins_lt | buntfalke: THey pulled it after releasing it, it's no longer available from Adobe. |
| 21:32.48 | puff | jhutchins_lt: Yeah, I just found the problem, 127.0.0.1 connection refused. |
| 21:33.00 | frikinz_ | buntfalke: well, you can whitelist a website.. old targz is at linux.softpedia.com |
| 21:33.24 | buntfalke | frikinz_: oh - i see. that's your point with flashblock. good idea. |
| 21:33.25 | buntfalke | thanks |
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| 21:36.31 | frikinz_ | buntfalke: http://bit.ly/8V8bS |
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| 21:46.05 | Bennit | anyone else had this on lenny btw: ssh connections closing after x minutes of inactiveness, even tough the keepalive flag was set to on |
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| 21:46.18 | Bennit | Seems to be fixed now after the upgrade |
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| 21:48.26 | spersaud | how do you setup LVM ? |
| 21:48.28 | spersaud | !lvm |
| 21:48.29 | dpkg | well, lvm is the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 22:38.11 | swatti- | hi all |
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| 22:38.50 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... i installed sun java from a .sh file ...now when i type java in the terminal ... command not found |
| 22:39.48 | themill | cobra-the-joker: alternatively, you could install java using the debian packages. /msg dpkg install java |
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| 22:42.21 | themill | cobra-the-joker: in any case, after you've just installed something, running "hash -r" in your terminal can be necessary for your shell to realise that something new has been installed. (presuming that sun java has put things in your PATH) |
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| 22:43.11 | cobra-the-joker | themill , yeah .... it installed it in my home directory |
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| 22:53.21 | Blackvel | how can i simply create a dpkg --get-selection list with installed packages from /var/lib/dpkt/status or another file (server is corrupt/down and only backup of files)? |
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| 22:54.15 | jordanm | Blackvel: chroot into the backed up filesystem and then do it |
| 22:55.34 | Blackvel | but that will then only work on debian? :) |
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| 22:55.49 | jordanm | Blackvel: do you know what a chroot is? |
| 22:56.52 | cobra-the-joker | themill , i got the path of the java executables ... how can i add it in the command list |
| 22:57.03 | jordanm | waits for Blackvel to finish googling "chroot" :) |
| 22:57.35 | themill | cobra-the-joker: you could add that to your PATH in your ~/.bashrc or similar. (or just install the debian packages) |
| 22:58.13 | jordanm | I would imagine besides your $PATH, you will have issues with others like JAVA_HOME |
| 22:58.28 | jordanm | which why you should really use the package... |
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| 22:58.51 | Blackvel | i think i can not put the "old vserver image" (snapshop_backup.tar.gz) onto re-installed server (no space) and my only system at home runs centos. neither could i chroot/dpkg on a thecus NAS ssh shell :( |
| 22:59.21 | fruitwerks | hmm ok something is wrong with my /root dir, it hangs on rsync, it hangs when getting perms, and I can't even ls it, any ideas? |
| 22:59.35 | Blackvel | my hoster was not willed to mount the backup directly into debian filesystem (after re-install) :( |
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| 23:01.02 | jordanm | Blackvel: provided that your hoster gave you enough of the previous system, you should be able to chroot from any *nix box, and the dpkg you would be running is that of the old server |
| 23:01.06 | themill | Blackvel: can you extract the contents of /var/lib/dpkg from the tarball? |
| 23:01.11 | jordanm | Blackvel: but it sounds like it might beyond hope for that? |
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| 23:01.31 | Blackvel | sure |
| 23:01.36 | Blackvel | i have full server backup |
| 23:01.48 | Blackvel | ahh i get what you mean |
| 23:01.53 | Blackvel | be patient with me |
| 23:01.56 | deadcat | how do i disable/lock a user in LDAP? |
| 23:02.15 | themill | Blackvel: if you copy the contents of /var/lib/dpkg into some temporary directory you can then use "dpkg -l --admindir /path/to/that/backup" |
| 23:02.27 | Blackvel | ... most brain cells have gone this week :) |
| 23:02.41 | themill | Blackvel: you *don't* want to just overwrite /var/lib/dpkg on your new machine with the backup |
| 23:02.49 | Blackvel | no of course not |
| 23:03.20 | Blackvel | would i need any other directories from backup too (e.g aptitude, debconf) besides dpkg? |
| 23:03.22 | lindi- | i chroot to backups |
| 23:03.56 | jordanm | Blackvel: if you are looking to attempt a chroot, you will want all the files. IMO it is atleast worth a try |
| 23:04.13 | themill | Blackvel: that will be enough to get your package information. |
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| 23:04.37 | themill | jordanm: I don't know that it's worth worrying about using chroot for this though -- dpkg has a --admindir option for a reason. |
| 23:04.38 | Blackvel | hosters s*** with only 1 gb disc space! :) thats year 2004 or behind :) |
| 23:04.50 | Blackvel | maybe i can try a nfs internet mount on my nfs |
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| 23:07.12 | Blackvel | i will try that tomorrow morning |
| 23:07.17 | Blackvel | too tired already |
| 23:09.12 | Blackvel | thanks all |
| 23:09.17 | Blackvel | btw |
| 23:09.26 | Blackvel | tried "rm *" today on a fresh vserver image ;) |
| 23:09.46 | Blackvel | must have been some package install which got my server corrupted on Monday |
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| 23:11.28 | Blackvel | not easy to fix a lenny os when not even /bin/sh /bin/cat or any other command can be called? still looking for this missing lib which caused all trouble. I could even find /lib/libc in offline backup :) |
| 23:12.16 | Blackvel | cu tomorrow |
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| 23:15.05 | Iran | hi, could you please advise me how to setup irc server on Debian or if you know any web oage that i can go step by step? thanks |
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| 23:25.25 | Bennit | Woop, on the new kernel, all up to date |
| 23:25.31 | themill | vyrgozunqk: don't irc as root |
| 23:25.31 | Bennit | one problem tough: apache won't do much |
| 23:25.51 | Bennit | /etc/init.d/apache2 restart -- restarting ok |
| 23:25.56 | Bennit | *surf* nothing |
| 23:26.03 | Bennit | errorlog says not much |
| 23:26.07 | Bennit | as in nothing |
| 23:26.17 | Bennit | a2dissite *all sites* |
| 23:26.22 | Bennit | a2enssite default |
| 23:26.29 | Bennit | *restart apache* still nothing |
| 23:26.47 | Bennit | anyone having the same problem after an upgrade from lenny to squeeze? |
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