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| 00:02.52 | kminor | welp back to work |
| 00:02.54 | kminor | later guyss |
| 00:04.00 | peterrooney | kminor: iirc, /var/lib/named is normally part of a customized bind chroot - not strictly part of the package or its installation. thus, it would be untouched. |
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| 00:16.05 | Voldenet | Is there anyone here? |
| 00:16.23 | simonrvn | tonnes, literally |
| 00:16.25 | htoothrot | 911 people |
| 00:16.33 | Voldenet | Yes, sure. |
| 00:16.34 | htoothrot | well, clients anyhow. |
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| 00:16.43 | simonrvn | most are people |
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| 00:17.00 | jpinx-eeepc | some a bots - like me |
| 00:17.15 | jpinx-eeepc | and some are silent lurkers like RichardG |
| 00:17.17 | simonrvn | or wannabe bots like him |
| 00:17.20 | Voldenet | Ok, how do i get a list of smb-clients in my network? |
| 00:17.34 | Voldenet | Like: <ip1> <ip2> ... <ipN> |
| 00:17.44 | Voldenet | i tried nmap -p 139 <range> |
| 00:17.45 | simonrvn | lemme guess, you asked in #samba and no one answered? |
| 00:18.00 | cfdisk | Why I am not obtaining to twirl a new instance of the apache ? http://www.pastebin.org/360938 |
| 00:18.02 | Voldenet | but i don't really got a clue how to parse output without scripts |
| 00:18.14 | Voldenet | is there a way to change nmap's output format? |
| 00:18.39 | simonrvn | isn't there some 'net foo bar' thing you can use? |
| 00:18.48 | simonrvn | (smbclients pkg IIRC) |
| 00:19.00 | JyZyXEL | is there a command like 'mount -a' is for /etc/fstab but for /etc/crypttab? |
| 00:19.01 | Voldenet | I got no smbclient |
| 00:19.20 | Voldenet | i don't need it to find smb-clients |
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| 00:20.09 | htoothrot | twirl? |
| 00:20.12 | simonrvn | regardless, i think you'll have to do some final parsing to get what you want |
| 00:20.21 | cfdisk | htoothrot, run* |
| 00:20.36 | Voldenet | Hm, no prob. I just thought there is a faster way |
| 00:20.37 | htoothrot | i figured as much, like spin, but i'd never seen it |
| 00:20.37 | cfdisk | run instance of the apache* |
| 00:20.43 | jelly-hme | Voldenet: you seem to be contradicting yourself a bit there, what are you really trying to do? |
| 00:20.58 | simonrvn | we have to guess ;) |
| 00:21.05 | Voldenet | Get IP of all samba-clients in my network. |
| 00:21.11 | jelly-hme | Voldenet: why? |
| 00:21.23 | simonrvn | he feels like it |
| 00:21.24 | Voldenet | stats |
| 00:21.25 | Voldenet | ;) |
| 00:21.37 | simonrvn | ah see, i was right ;p |
| 00:21.39 | Voldenet | im going to write it to file with date and time |
| 00:22.03 | cfdisk | htoothrot, Sorry, don't speak inglish. |
| 00:22.43 | cfdisk | htoothrot, you understand ? http://www.pastebin.org/360938 |
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| 00:24.05 | Voldenet | eh screw that, ill just use xml output to file and parse it with perl or python |
| 00:24.13 | Voldenet | Thanks for help. |
| 00:24.16 | simonrvn | have fun |
| 00:24.24 | Voldenet | :) |
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| 00:26.57 | jpinx-eeepc | cfdisk: what is your language? |
| 00:27.50 | cfdisk | jpinx-eeepc, i'am speak portuguese or spanish. |
| 00:28.09 | jelly-hme | Voldenet: a linux client using a CIFS share needn't have tcp/139 or tcp/445 open. |
| 00:28.50 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell cfdisk about pt |
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| 00:30.45 | cfdisk | jpinx-eeepc, i say a little english, you i know what this can happening? |
| 00:31.03 | JyZyXEL | can loop mounts be put in fstab? |
| 00:31.10 | JyZyXEL | or started somehow else automatically on startup |
| 00:31.33 | jpinx-eeepc | JyZyXEL: I believe they can go in fstab |
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| 00:32.07 | jelly-hme | JyZyXEL: man mount |
| 00:32.47 | jelly-hme | anything that mount can do can be put in fstab |
| 00:35.13 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't seem to accept the filesystem 'none' |
| 00:35.48 | jelly-hme | is your image really of filesystem "none"? |
| 00:35.53 | JyZyXEL | yea |
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| 00:36.20 | jelly-hme | JyZyXEL: so you just want to establish a loop device and mount actually mount anything? |
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| 00:36.40 | jelly-hme | s/ mount / not / |
| 00:36.49 | JyZyXEL | yea i just want the loop device to be made so dm-crypt can use it |
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| 00:39.21 | JyZyXEL | but i have a feeling that /etc/crypttab is executed first anyways so it will still fail |
| 00:39.38 | JyZyXEL | there should be a /etc/looptab |
| 00:39.51 | JyZyXEL | or devtab |
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| 00:41.59 | jelly-hme | JyZyXEL: see if cryptmount can help you. The package description suggests so. |
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| 00:45.44 | p_masho | can anyone help.. MAJOR problem.. |
| 00:46.26 | p_masho | I'm commanding my remote machine which a volume is full /var/clients/* |
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| 00:47.39 | p_masho | this is the webroot of server in /var/www and a symlink to /var/clients |
| 00:48.04 | p_masho | I've copied files over.. however I executed afterwards |
| 00:49.02 | p_masho | mv /var/_clients to /home/safety/ and I now get complaint of >> mv: cannot move `/home/safety/client0/web2' to `/home/safety/client0/web4/web2': File exists |
| 00:49.26 | p_masho | So all I want is to "keep target system" and ignore warnings... |
| 00:50.02 | p_masho | is in a panic.. and a move to debbie.. |
| 00:52.34 | peterrooney | p_masho: what about rsync localhost:/var/_clients /home/safety ? |
| 00:52.55 | peterrooney | p_masho: pretty sure rsync has some options that preserve symlinks |
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| 00:53.30 | jpinx-eeepc | p_masho: rsync -ar maybe what you need |
| 00:53.37 | p_masho | TOOlate I already executed a MV command remote and it was stopped.. // Somehow I want to continue.. |
| 00:54.18 | p_masho | I am ON the remote machine as root... and "moving" stuff on volumes |
| 00:54.25 | jpinx-eeepc | p_masho: man rsync dude - |
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| 00:55.55 | p_masho | 0--*** |
| 00:56.26 | jelly-hme | p_masho: where did you do this mv, on the source or on destination? |
| 00:56.50 | jelly-hme | also, who's debbie. |
| 00:57.07 | p_masho | so var.. problem is .. |
| 00:57.56 | p_masho | moving /var/clients/* to /home/www-clients/ << this works Aacross volume |
| 00:59.35 | jarick | a) The ellipsis is THREE dots, no more, no less. b) It is used to indicate omission, of which we don't want here. |
| 01:00.43 | jelly-home | jarick: his problem could be the parent directory netry. |
| 01:01.14 | jhutchins_lt | jarick: Also a pause, hesitation, or a change to a different partial sentance. |
| 01:01.51 | Tramp | oh, cmon .... |
| 01:02.09 | jelly-home | two parents next to each other? |
| 01:02.13 | jhutchins_lt | p_masho: There is a way to do it with rsync. |
| 01:02.57 | jpinx-eeepc | p_masho: I told you - read man rsync and fix it |
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| 01:03.25 | jarick | jhutchins_lt: The CMoS says that it should be only used to indicate omission. It is strongly discouraged as an indicator of continuation. |
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| 01:04.04 | jhutchins_lt | Which is the C? |
| 01:04.17 | jelly-home | jarick: CutMeownSentence? |
| 01:04.20 | jhutchins_lt | It's also sometimes used ... |
| 01:04.26 | jarick | jhutchins_lt: Chicago Manual of Style. |
| 01:04.29 | jelly-home | Syntax? |
| 01:04.29 | jhutchins_lt | ... to split a sentance between lines. |
| 01:04.59 | jhutchins_lt | jarick: I think I tend more toward NYT, but couldn't cite it for certain in this case. |
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| 01:05.25 | jhutchins_lt | It's also used by some when you're going to reveal ... |
| 01:05.28 | jarick | But that's just me nitpicking. |
| 01:05.28 | jhutchins_lt | ... a surprize! |
| 01:05.58 | jarick | Surprize? Is that like a surcoat? |
| 01:06.27 | jhutchins_lt | Of course we were going to write formally and correctly here ... but then we said "screw that!". (Note logical but incorrect closing punctuation.) |
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| 01:06.39 | jelly-home | lol, u rite |
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| 01:14.49 | jarick | jhutchins_lt: Strangely enough, I do subscribe to that convention in technical writing. |
| 01:15.51 | jarick | Imagine how confusing "Next, type the command 'ls,' resulting in the contents of the..." |
| 01:19.11 | peterrooney | ' but then we exclaimed, "screw that". ' |
| 01:19.31 | peterrooney | the punctuation problem reveals a deeper description problem. |
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| 01:21.33 | jarick | peterrooney: The fact that languages are a mere representation of the actual message, and we should all develop telepathy? :D |
| 01:21.48 | jelly-home | knew you would say that |
| 01:21.48 | jarick | sends Troi over to peterrooney's |
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| 01:23.00 | themill | ##English is over there âââ |
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| 01:28.11 | jarick | themill: STOPLOOKINGATMYSCREEN! |
| 01:29.07 | jelly-home | can we get back to.. whatever p_masho was trying to do.. even if not that well defined? |
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| 01:30.30 | p_masho | jelly-home: no problems.. so far.. guess that where m$ wins.. |
| 01:30.56 | jelly-home | Microsoft won't help you from an accidental move. |
| 01:31.10 | jelly-home | Backups, however, might. |
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| 01:31.26 | p_masho | agreed.. but I DEFINATE want my clients stuff out of the USA.. |
| 01:31.58 | p_masho | after all USa has announced TOTAL domination of web and hence reson for move... ;-) |
| 01:32.26 | jelly-home | ? |
| 01:32.27 | p_masho | good for my business.. ;-) |
| 01:33.08 | p_masho | jelly-home: look a congress kill switch.. |
| 01:33.21 | joelmichael | shut up you loon |
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| 01:33.44 | p_masho | joelmichael: u calling me a loon ? |
| 01:33.56 | joelmichael | yes. |
| 01:34.12 | p_masho | joelmichael: fine.. guess you in USA then ? |
| 01:34.16 | jarick | *sigh* |
| 01:35.08 | p_masho | come on guys .. ge the drift.. I'm in the UK.. and we got firewalls here.. and reservations... |
| 01:36.31 | p_masho | next step expected is hold all USA accounts for non US residents.. and that is precicely what I'm doing... moving OFF shore...and well away from USA cowboy land... |
| 01:37.22 | p_masho | not my fault.. but clients however small now have reservations... |
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| 01:40.52 | jelly-home | as the Ferengi say, War is good for business. |
| 01:41.11 | jelly-home | that apparently includes the War on Terror |
| 01:41.25 | Tramp | he also said Peace is good for business |
| 01:41.36 | p_masho | jelly-home: precisely.. and that is my sales pitch.. no terror = peace ;-))) |
| 01:42.31 | p_masho | and since USa is the biggest financer of terror.. that is a pure reson to get away... Clients are nervous of implications.. |
| 01:43.09 | p_masho | the sales pitch is working well.. using BP as an example of the horrors.. |
| 01:43.11 | craigevil | p_masho: wtf does any of this have to do with #debian |
| 01:43.24 | craigevil | !offtopic |
| 01:43.24 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 01:43.49 | p_masho | because I recommended debian as an OS.. and its american hosted and therby enough info to get away from US corps.. |
| 01:45.00 | p_masho | hope's u guys get that issue.. looking from eurpoe... we dont need USa help.. thanks but no thanks.. |
| 01:45.27 | jpinx-eeepc | p_masho: take it to #debian-offtopic |
| 01:46.19 | p_masho | jpinx-eeepc: after thsi probably not http://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch-plan-approved-by-us-senate/?olo=rss |
| 01:46.42 | jarick | p_masho: Please take it off this channel. |
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| 01:48.28 | p_masho | jarick: can I take the USA patent system off topic also ??? |
| 01:48.37 | Ha4poon | bye |
| 01:50.10 | jarick | p_masho: This is a support channel. Offtopic discussion goes to #debian-offtopic. |
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| 02:09.21 | mee | hi folks. I'm having trouble getting the virtualbox guest utilities package to build the kernel module on my virtualized debian system. I've collected all the relevent information I could think of here: http://paste.debian.net/78897/ |
| 02:10.18 | mee | Does anyone know how/where the virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms package looks for the kernel source (ie. is /usr/src/linux correct?) ? |
| 02:11.12 | jelly-home | mee: install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r), and remove all that linux-source* stuff |
| 02:11.54 | jelly-home | mee: also, install and reboot into the most recent kernel |
| 02:12.01 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 02:12.02 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 02:13.12 | mee | ah, ok. I'll try that. Thanks |
| 02:13.33 | jelly-home | mee: if you install linux-image-2.6-686 and linux-headers-2.6-686, it'll pull in latest supported kernel for your debian release |
| 02:14.01 | jelly-home | that 2.6.32-trunk-686 one is rather old |
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| 02:30.30 | p_masho | yipeee.. dont my move and deb server is workign lovely lovely lovely.. thanks all ;-))))))))))) |
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| 02:34.34 | peterrooney | p_masho: so what was it that worked in the end? rsync? mv? telinit? |
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| 02:36.49 | mint | hi,l i have the lxdexfce nersion of lenny. am i correct that there is NO synaptic? |
| 02:37.07 | mint | atleast i couldnt find it. all i had was the graphical console apt program |
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| 02:37.13 | mint | and no repo's for synaptic |
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| 02:38.32 | craigevil | mint: aptitude install synaptic, its in the normal debian repos |
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| 02:38.42 | mint | thats so weird |
| 02:38.45 | mint | i couldnt find it |
| 02:38.50 | mint | even after an apt-update |
| 02:39.03 | craigevil | check your sources.list |
| 02:39.08 | mint | i read a few forums with people experiencing the same problem |
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| 02:39.47 | mint | well im just about to install it now. wish me luck lol |
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| 02:40.21 | mint | i know i can get synaptic. but for my purpose its so much easier that its preinstalled |
| 02:42.06 | mint | also. i wrote the iso to a usb stick using unetbootn-linux but the debian installer strictly detects the cd and wont let me install. can i get around this? |
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| 02:42.53 | zebradog | hi |
| 02:42.55 | lrcaballero | good evening everyone, can someone guide me through the right direction PLEASE!! I recently installed Lenny on my Acer Aspire Timeline Intel Pentium, SU2700 (1.3 GHz) lenny did not recognized my Ethernet cards and my Seagate external HD, I downloaded the most recent Kernel 2.6.34. My point is: can I run the Kernel via terminal to update to the most recent and this may fix the problem? |
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| 02:43.27 | jelly-home | mint: there's a (convoluted) procedure for creating usb installer in the release notes |
| 02:43.47 | mint | ahh i must have overlooked this. thanks |
| 02:44.09 | zebradog | lrcaballero, what is the ethernet card chipset? |
| 02:44.13 | jelly-home | !tell mint about usb install |
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| 02:45.41 | mint | ahhj but no using my existing iso? np il just burn a disc |
| 02:46.22 | mint | ohhhh n there is a method |
| 02:46.24 | mint | im so tired |
| 02:46.26 | mint | thanks |
| 02:47.06 | zebradog | lrcaballero, ? |
| 02:47.35 | lrcaballero | zebradog: Atheros |
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| 02:47.57 | zebradog | lrcaballero, that's wifi.. you can try madwifi module |
| 02:48.14 | zebradog | lrcaballero, i'm guessing the lan port if there's one uses r8169 |
| 02:48.41 | lrcaballero | zebradog, let me open a terminal, give me a second |
| 02:49.31 | craigevil | lrcaballero: paste the output of lspci -nn on paste.debian.net |
| 02:49.43 | lrcaballero | ok |
| 02:49.49 | zebradog | lrcaballero, ifconfig -a , lists interfaces |
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| 02:52.02 | lrcaballero | zebradog : craigevil : AR8131 1969:1063 |
| 02:52.49 | zebradog | lrcaballero, what about ifconfig -a ? |
| 02:53.35 | zebradog | lrcaballero, (if ur laptop/netbook is similar to ->http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne) |
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| 02:54.14 | lrcaballero | zebradog - cragevil : http://paste.debian.net/78898/ |
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| 02:56.22 | lrcaballero | craigevil: http://paste.debian.net/78899/ |
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| 02:57.43 | Godfather_ | hi |
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| 02:58.46 | zebradog | lrcaballero, both cards are recognized |
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| 02:59.10 | craigevil | lrcaballero: install the 2.6.32 kernel from backports |
| 02:59.35 | zebradog | craigevil, why? his interfaces show up |
| 03:00.06 | craigevil | !AR8131 |
| 03:00.06 | dpkg | atl1c is a driver for Atheros L1C PCI-E gigabit Ethernet (AR8131) and Fast Ethernet (AR8132) controllers, used in some laptop and netbook systems (e.g. Acer Aspire Timeline 4810T, various Asus Eee PCs). Included in the mainline Linux kernel as of 2.6.30. The driver was backported and enabled in linux-2.6 2.6.26-22, ask me about <5.0.5>. |
| 03:00.34 | lrcaballero | zebradof | cragevil what should I do?? and how do I install 2.6.32 from bakports? |
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| 03:01.05 | zebradog | lrcaballero, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_tools_for_Linux |
| 03:01.17 | zebradog | lrcaballero, iwlist wlan0 scan |
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| 03:01.41 | zebradog | lrcaballero, there's also the debian wiki |
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| 03:02.24 | zebradog | lrcaballero, ^ if that command works, then just a matter of setting up wifi correct, the external HD is another issue |
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| 03:02.59 | craigevil | lrcaballero: for the wireless /msg dpkg AR928X |
| 03:03.42 | lrcaballero | zebradog : craigevil I will give it a shot! thanks!!! a bunch for your time...guys! |
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| 03:04.16 | zebradog | lrcaballero, its a simple command, 'iwlist wlan0 scan' , does anything show up? |
| 03:05.19 | lrcaballero | ZEBRADOG | it say NO RESULTS |
| 03:06.21 | lrcaballero | zebradog | wlan 0 no scan results |
| 03:06.22 | zebradog | !tell lrcaballero about bpo |
| 03:12.38 | Cain | Is it 'safe' to add backports packages to a debian prod server ? |
| 03:14.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... is crossing the street 'safe'? |
| 03:15.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | It's meant to be safe... |
| 03:15.26 | jmarsden | Cain: It is never 'safe' to change anything at all on a production server; apply changes to your development/staging server(s) first, and test on those -- that is what they are for :) |
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| 03:17.35 | Cain | i have some bugs with nut (keep connect/disconnect from ups) i wonder if a recent version of the package will resolve the pb |
| 03:17.49 | Cain | jmarsden : thx for the advice |
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| 03:20.03 | jelly-home | Cain: packages from backports.org are made to be safe for use with stable; YMMV |
| 03:20.19 | jelly-home | ,versions nut |
| 03:20.20 | judd | nut -- etch: 2.0.4-4; lenny: 2.2.2-6.5; sid: 2.4.3-1; squeeze: 2.4.3-1 |
| 03:20.39 | jelly-home | but there's no nut in lenny-backports anyway |
| 03:20.57 | zebradog | jelly-home, that's nuts! |
| 03:21.17 | jelly-home | it's the opposite. |
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| 03:22.11 | zebradog | jelly-home, sorry to hear you got your balls kicked in! ;-) |
| 03:22.26 | zebradog | :) |
| 03:22.50 | zebradog | wants to kick some poor repo in the nuts! |
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| 03:24.07 | Cain | wants zebradog to kick son nut bugs too ! |
| 03:24.18 | Cain | s/son/some |
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| 03:28.07 | mee | jelly-home: I got everything working. Thanks again. |
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| 03:35.31 | mint | why would you want to nut in lenny backports. the pc might electrocute you |
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| 03:42.15 | xuser | What does debian lenny uses during install to encrypt the hard drive? |
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| 03:43.19 | ansgar | xuser: dm-crypt (or cryptsetup for the userspace utility) |
| 03:43.44 | xuser | thanks |
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| 04:22.18 | mcl0vin | just installed 9.10 on a laptop and when it asked me to boot i did , now i get "GRUB loading. error:file not found" then furb rescue> " |
| 04:23.13 | mcl0vin | shoot wrong channel :) |
| 04:23.15 | mcl0vin | sorry |
| 04:23.37 | RastaGod | Anyone experienced with Postfix and using Multiple interfaces on diff domains? |
| 04:25.36 | KB1JWQ | RastaGod: I hope you're using 2.6 or later. :-) |
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| 04:26.17 | RastaGod | KB1JWQ: indeed i am 2.8 .. but my question is once /etc/postfix and /etc/postfix-2 setup... How to test it? |
| 04:26.43 | RastaGod | you edit the domain and ip on the interfaces but is it going to be special username on each one and thats how postfix will know which domain to spit out? |
| 04:26.43 | KB1JWQ | Is there a decent way to have a Lenny DomU in a Xen environment? The i386 version has a great bootable config file that works across the net, but that doesn't seem to be the case with the 64 bit edition. |
| 04:26.47 | KB1JWQ | RastaGod: #postfix |
| 04:26.50 | k\t | telnet. |
| 04:27.07 | RastaGod | KB1JWQ : am there, everyone is dead |
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| 04:28.38 | k\t | telnet mydomaindotcom 25 ; HELO mydomain.com ; MAIL FROM blahh ; RECIPIENT blah ; SEND DATA. "." ; QUIT |
| 04:29.18 | flaccid | i'm running the mount command in chroot of a deboostrap directory and its returning warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory. usually deboostrap creates that afaik; |
| 04:30.05 | k\t | nvm. |
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| 04:30.49 | DanDare | Im going to compile an app and I have this example on the tutorial for configuratio: "--with-httpd=/usr/sbin/httpd \" how it will look like for Lenny? Im using Apache2 |
| 04:30.51 | flaccid | hmm i shoud not have to touch mtab |
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| 04:32.28 | smacnay | hmm, gnome-shell jumped up to 1.7 gog of ram usage - I wonder if it was because I used the screencast tool |
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| 04:34.29 | KB1JWQ | Lenny is the current stable release, correct? |
| 04:34.43 | DipSwitch | y |
| 04:34.50 | KB1JWQ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.06 | DipSwitch | ext3 is stable |
| 04:35.15 | DipSwitch | ext4 still has some minor bugs / vulns |
| 04:35.38 | KB1JWQ | I don't dispute that ext3 is stable, but ext4 is considered stable enough that even RHEL 5 (dinosaur that it is) now supports it. |
| 04:35.57 | KB1JWQ | Let me rephrase my question a bit. :-) What's the design philosophy behind debian as a distro? |
| 04:40.30 | jmarsden | KB1JWQ: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manifesto.en.html |
| 04:42.11 | KB1JWQ | jmarsden: Thanks. I'm a dyed in the wool CentOS guy for the last three years or so; new gig is a Debian shop, and I've run Ubuntu for a while. |
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| 04:49.33 | DanDare | KB1JWQ, your question may have more than one asnwer maybe. Debian philosophy is providing a very stable and rock solid distro, IMO :p |
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| 04:59.50 | jelly-home | KB1JWQ: when did RHEL5 start supporting ext4? My own testing found the fs lacking in stability. |
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| 05:00.50 | jelly-home | spontaneous remount-ro are not good for servers |
| 05:02.36 | jelly-home | DanDare: /usr/sbin/apache2 is the httpd binary for Debian apache packages |
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| 05:03.16 | DanDare | jelly-home, yeah, found it already... thank you anyway |
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| 05:06.14 | KB1JWQ | jelly-home: 5.3 |
| 05:06.24 | KB1JWQ | I've had no issues with ext4 at this point. |
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| 05:08.43 | jelly-home | ah. I don't have latest e2fsprogs there |
| 05:08.51 | craigevil | does ext4 need a newer kernel than the default lenny kernel |
| 05:09.05 | liable | think so |
| 05:09.08 | jpinx-eeepc | craigevil: I believe so |
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| 05:09.19 | jpinx-eeepc | !ext4 |
| 05:09.19 | dpkg | [ext4] Fourth extended file system. Supports volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents. Support for ext4 filesystem features included in e2fsprogs since 1.41~WIP-2008-06-17-1. Merged in mainline Linux kernel, available in 2.6.28 and later. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. Not supported by GRUB Legacy (Debian bug #511121). http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ #ext4 on irc.oftc.net. |
| 05:09.21 | jelly-home | KB1JWQ: mmm... nope, still no mkfs.ext4, weird |
| 05:09.47 | craigevil | which explains why lenny doesnt use ext4 |
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| 05:10.13 | jpinx-eeepc | aside from supporting huge volumes - what are the advantages? |
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| 05:10.28 | jelly-home | craigevil: userspace is pretty much ready for it, possibly modulo boot loader |
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| 05:41.19 | chlin | does anyone encounter a problem that pidgin will fork many instances and no gui shown in systray? |
| 05:42.12 | chlin | I upgrade debian in sid env and current encounter a problem pidgin will not be shown when switching with alt+tab |
| 05:42.39 | jpinx-eeepc | chlin: welcome to sid |
| 05:42.41 | jpinx-eeepc | !sid |
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| 05:42.41 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
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| 05:42.53 | jpinx-eeepc | check the version support for pidgin in sid |
| 05:43.42 | lamdk | noob question here... if i have a 64bit intel i5 laptop, what installation dvd should i get? the IA64 one dosent seem to boot into the installer =\ |
| 05:44.05 | jpinx-eeepc | amd64 |
| 05:44.08 | chlin | the pidgin version in sid is Pidgin 2.7.1 (libpurple 2.7.1) |
| 05:44.16 | lamdk | oh really, but i have intel |
| 05:44.36 | jpinx-eeepc | chlin: I can only suggest that you check with #pidgin |
| 05:44.51 | jpinx-eeepc | lamdk: read the notes ;) |
| 05:44.52 | chlin | jpinx-eeepc: thanks. |
| 05:45.02 | lamdk | kk thanks |
| 05:45.03 | lamdk | no wonder |
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| 05:52.16 | ddalton | hi guys I'm looking to set up a debian server, do I just install the standard release I would use for any other desktop? and are there certain other options I should know about during the installation? |
| 05:52.59 | dv- | You should probably deselect 'desktop environment' when the installer asks you what to install |
| 05:53.24 | jpinx-eeepc | ddalton: what do you want the server to serve? |
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| 05:54.12 | ddalton | jpinx-eeepc: probably just to monitor the network and perhaps later on run an imap server or possibly a web server |
| 05:54.26 | dcbevins | mail, database, web server, other? what kinda of volume? if a serious work load maybe no desktop |
| 05:54.26 | ddalton | oh and I'll host samba shares as well as an ssh server |
| 05:55.00 | ddalton | just on a home network. soemone told me the process of shutting down a server was much different to a standard desktop e.g. you must provide a reason why, is this true? |
| 05:55.05 | jpinx-eeepc | ddalton: 1so no need for a desktop? |
| 05:55.47 | jpinx-eeepc | ddalton: sounds like you should install it as both a desktop and server and learn about how it all works ;) |
| 05:55.47 | ddalton | nah I'm blind and will be controling it remotely anyway eg. the system won't have a screen so no need for desktop |
| 05:55.59 | dcbevins | depends if your a gui kinda guy or a cli kinda guy, sounds like your load will be light, not like 1000 hits a second or something, the standard with the desktop would be ok |
| 05:56.11 | jpinx-eeepc | ddalton: cool - then go for the server install and enjoy |
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| 05:56.20 | MeglaW | im a TUI kind of guy |
| 05:56.32 | jpinx-eeepc | it's not a lot different to a normal PC, just some different services running |
| 05:56.43 | ddalton | so server install is that using the standarcd cd and just unticking desktop during the package selection bit? what sorta server configuration do I choose? at that stage |
| 05:56.59 | dcbevins | if your blind i dont know what the diffrence in the tools for gui verses command line are, might get more text to speech and such from the gui, that is out of my range of knowledge |
| 05:57.03 | jpinx-eeepc | yep - that'll do it |
| 05:57.21 | jpinx-eeepc | ddalton: you cqn add and subtract packages later anyway |
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| 05:57.55 | dcbevins | you can always start with the server and a desktop later if you need it |
| 05:58.10 | dcbevins | its all the same kernels and repositories |
| 05:58.41 | ddalton | dcbevins: nah as I said i'll be using ssh to control it so It'll just stay on the desk with no monitor or speakers connected |
| 05:59.14 | ddalton | right, and my friend was saying that you have to like provide reasons for shutting the server down and stuff, is that right? |
| 05:59.20 | wad | What does it mean what I do "apt-get upgrade" and I get: "The following packages have been kept back: |
| 05:59.21 | wad | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.21 | wad | " |
| 05:59.23 | dcbevins | that will work, just getting it set up takes more hands on |
| 06:00.08 | ddalton | yeh well i have screen and braille terminal connect for install, but that will be removed once the ssh server is up and running |
| 06:00.30 | dcbevins | wad it means they have requirments that havent been met yet, probably still in development, or something like that, wait a week and try again, or try apt-get distr-upgrade |
| 06:00.35 | jpinx-eeepc | ddalton: no - you can close down a server same as a pc |
| 06:00.56 | wad | dcbevins, it's been doing this for about a year now. I never reboot the box... maybe I need to do that, to get the latest stuff? |
| 06:00.56 | ddalton | ah right cool |
| 06:01.07 | ddalton | so is that the same for corperations and large business servers? |
| 06:01.10 | MeglaW | uptime 08:01:05 up 158 days, 12:34, 6 users, load average: 0.15, 0.24, 0.36 |
| 06:01.27 | wad | 00:01:16 up 458 days |
| 06:01.31 | MeglaW | nice |
| 06:01.31 | dcbevins | same software probably not the same hardware |
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| 06:01.41 | ddalton | yeh lol |
| 06:01.47 | ddalton | cool |
| 06:01.55 | jelly-home | wad: a reboot won't change the result of that command. |
| 06:02.01 | ddalton | and one other quick query, do you have any ideas for bandwidth monitoring? |
| 06:02.06 | wad | jelly-home, okay, thanks. |
| 06:02.09 | ddalton | like internet trafic |
| 06:02.56 | jelly-home | wad: you need a dist-upgrade. Incidentally this will bring in a newer kernel, and to activate that you'll really need a reboot. |
| 06:02.58 | dcbevins | wad the last one is a kernel upgrade, so if you have never distro upgraded, it may not have gone in, plus you might be running on a old kernel, the other packages might need a newer kernel, but if nothing is not working, just leave it |
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| 06:04.20 | wad | Okay, I'll just leave it. |
| 06:04.41 | dcbevins | maybe bwm-ng ddalton |
| 06:04.56 | dcbevins | if you mean live bandwith |
| 06:05.30 | jelly-home | wad: all the held packages carry security updates. If this is a multiuser machine or one connected to the internet, you might want to reconsider that choice. |
| 06:05.46 | wad | Mmm. Yes, it hosts a bunch of websites. |
| 06:05.58 | wad | So, I should do a dist-grade then? |
| 06:06.08 | dcbevins | have you ever done a distro upgrade wad? is this stabe? |
| 06:06.28 | dcbevins | stable i meant |
| 06:06.36 | wad | uname -a |
| 06:06.37 | wad | Linux squashbot 2.6.18-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 24 16:41:07 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 06:06.44 | jelly-home | wad: preferably in a testing environment first. |
| 06:07.04 | jelly-home | wad: hmph, you haven't updated the kernel since etch. |
| 06:07.18 | wad | Yeah... I never bothered to reboot. |
| 06:07.30 | dcbevins | try a try run firsts |
| 06:07.33 | wad | I'll do a reboot, and see what happens. |
| 06:07.36 | jelly-home | wad: your machine might not even boot with a new kernel. Proceed carefully. |
| 06:07.45 | wad | My connection will drop; this is my link to the internet. |
| 06:07.54 | wad | Hope this works.... |
| 06:08.04 | ddalton | dcbevins: thanks |
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| 06:08.18 | jelly-home | oh, if you have physical access you'll able to fix things |
| 06:08.20 | ddalton | so I could monitor an individual machine's downloads? |
| 06:08.31 | dcbevins | wad the -s will "simulate" the action, letting you see what might happen |
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| 06:08.42 | dcbevins | dry run a meant |
| 06:09.36 | dcbevins | or --dry-run |
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| 06:11.08 | dcbevins | lie apt-get -s dist-upgrade or apt-get --dry-run dist-upgrade that will show you what it is likely to do |
| 06:11.39 | dcbevins | like not lie, ugg my keyboard is too squishy |
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| 06:21.11 | deStone | not really a debian-centric question -- but if i setup ns1.domain.com, ns2.domain.com to resolve to two seperate nameservers... can i setup a ns3.domain.com to poitn to same ip as ns1.domain.com (and ns4.domain.com to resolve to same ip as ns2.domain.com)...? |
| 06:21.24 | deStone | think of ns3, ns4 as placeholders... |
| 06:22.03 | jpinx-eeepc | deStone: having more than one nameserver on an IP is generally not a good idea |
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| 06:28.53 | ddalton | hey with the server, are there any powersave options I should be using to use less power if it will run 24/7? |
| 06:28.55 | wad | Hey, whaddya know, it came back up. |
| 06:29.06 | wad | It took a while, had to fsck. |
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| 06:29.33 | wad | 458 days since last reboot and all of that. |
| 06:30.07 | cahoot | security isn't a priority? |
| 06:30.13 | wad | uname -a |
| 06:30.13 | wad | Linux eldrazi 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 19:31:57 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 06:30.36 | wad | I've been keeping it up to date with apt-get, but didn't realize it needed to reboot every once in a while. |
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| 06:30.50 | wad | I haven't been keeping track of which kernel version it was running. |
| 06:30.59 | wad | oh. wait. |
| 06:31.19 | wad | Whoops, no, that didn't put in a new kernel after all: |
| 06:31.21 | wad | uname -a |
| 06:31.22 | wad | Linux squashbot 2.6.18-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 24 16:41:07 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 06:32.17 | wad | Doing a dist-upgrade now. |
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| 06:33.05 | peterrooney | !based on debian |
| 06:33.05 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 06:38.19 | hanibanaa | tzconfig does not change the time zone to the proper one; what could be the reason? |
| 06:38.31 | hanibanaa | I'm using Etch. |
| 06:40.03 | jpinx-eeepc | hanibanaa: you really ought to get up to lenny |
| 06:40.18 | jpinx-eeepc | hanibanaa: and try ntp to keep you time up to date |
| 06:40.34 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell hanibanaa about etch->lenny |
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| 06:42.31 | hanibanaa | jpinx-eeepc: I like lenny and use it. Its not mine. |
| 06:43.29 | hanibanaa | jpinx-eeepc: ntp and timezones are two separate issues. |
| 06:43.37 | jpinx-eeepc | hanibanaa: well whoever owns this etch system needs to seriously consider upgrading to leent as etch is not supported anymore and security has lapsed |
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| 06:44.21 | jpinx-eeepc | hanibanaa: for tz's I just use date to set it close to correct and let ntp do the rest |
| 06:45.15 | hanibanaa | jpinx-eeepc: you can not change `timezone' by date, AFAIK. |
| 06:45.42 | jpinx-eeepc | locales then? |
| 06:46.00 | jpinx-eeepc | I really can not remember as I rarely have to bother with it |
| 06:46.07 | hanibanaa | jpinx-eeepc: eth->tzconfig; lenny->dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 06:47.04 | jpinx-eeepc | cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime |
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| 06:48.59 | jpinx-eeepc | hanibanaa: on etch it was indeed tzconfig, but that command line might help you |
| 06:49.04 | xylox | i have problems extracting a splitted rar archive. do i need unrar (non-free) to do it? because unrar-free gives me an error |
| 06:50.11 | hanibanaa | jpinx-eeepc: |
| 06:50.22 | hanibanaa | I hve already done that |
| 06:50.28 | hanibanaa | no help :( |
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| 07:01.40 | Nai-ux | i added usb speaker to system and dmesg shows.. registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio , i enabled master with alsamixer, still no sound |
| 07:02.18 | Nai-ux | also did modprobe snd-usb-audio |
| 07:02.54 | ddalton | anyone know how to see bios settings from within linux or isnt this possible? |
| 07:02.56 | dcbevins | did you check all the volumes, i have to ask |
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| 07:03.41 | D-Boy | ,versions clamd |
| 07:03.42 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'clamd' was found. |
| 07:03.46 | D-Boy | ,versions clamav |
| 07:03.48 | judd | clamav -- etch: 0.90.1dfsg-4etch19; etch-security: 0.90.1dfsg-4etch19; lenny: 0.94.dfsg.2-1lenny2; lenny-security: 0.94.dfsg.2-1lenny2; etch-backports: 0.95.2+dfsg-2~bpo40+1; etch-volatile: 0.95.3+dfsg-1~volatile1~etch2; lenny-volatile: 0.96.1+dfsg-1~volatile1; sid: 0.96.1+dfsg-1; squeeze: 0.96.1+dfsg-1 |
| 07:04.04 | Nai-ux | dcbevins, yes i brought them into red inside alsamixer |
| 07:04.04 | cahoot | Nai-ux: what if you try speaker-test -t wav -c2 -Dhw:1? |
| 07:04.38 | Nai-ux | Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory |
| 07:04.43 | dcbevins | mabye its not modprobe-snd-usb, or its that plus another, did you look up you card and try to find the modprobe command for in on the matirx sound card page for alsa? |
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| 07:04.57 | cahoot | Nai-ux: and if you try speaker-test -t wav -c2 ? |
| 07:05.32 | Nai-ux | it doesn't print error and runs tests. no sound is heard |
| 07:05.41 | Nai-ux | dcbevins, hmm |
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| 07:05.50 | cahoot | Nai-ux: run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 |
| 07:06.11 | pallgone | ddalton: man dmidecode |
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| 07:06.37 | Nai-ux | cahoot: Resetting ALSA card 0...done. |
| 07:06.43 | cahoot | Nai-ux: and if you try speaker-test -t wav -c2 ? |
| 07:07.09 | Nai-ux | same result |
| 07:07.45 | cahoot | Nai-ux: cat /proc/asound/cards - card# corresponding to speakers? |
| 07:08.52 | dcbevins | maybe try some headphones |
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| 07:09.13 | Nai-ux | http://scsys.co.uk:8002/45228 |
| 07:09.29 | Nai-ux | http://scsys.co.uk:8002/45229 |
| 07:09.45 | cahoot | Nai-ux: run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 2 |
| 07:09.51 | Nai-ux | good idea i'l check with hphones |
| 07:09.53 | cahoot | Nai-ux: and if you try speaker-test -t wav -c2 -Dhw:2? |
| 07:10.30 | Nai-ux | LOOUUUDDDD |
| 07:10.34 | Nai-ux | >.> |
| 07:11.14 | Nai-ux | that is good but ow |
| 07:11.21 | cahoot | Nai-ux: try alsa force-reload - see what index# the speakers get |
| 07:12.25 | Nai-ux | i dont think the alsamixer is hooked into anything? it does not have volume control |
| 07:12.27 | cahoot | Nai-ux: try if you want the usb-speakers as 'default' you want snd-usb-audio to get index 0 |
| 07:12.39 | cahoot | Nai-ux: alsamixer -c2 |
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| 07:13.00 | Nai-ux | ohhhh |
| 07:13.12 | cahoot | Nai-ux: you have 3 sounddevices |
| 07:13.29 | cahoot | from alsas POV |
| 07:13.34 | Nai-ux | i see |
| 07:14.01 | Nai-ux | do i need to change order so apps and utilities see speakers as primary? |
| 07:14.07 | cahoot | yes |
| 07:14.44 | Nai-ux | alsa force-reload, alsa is command not found |
| 07:14.48 | cahoot | Nai-ux: you could: echo "Option snd-usb-audio index=0" >> /etc/modprobe.d/sndusbaudio |
| 07:15.19 | cahoot | err : echo "Options snd-usb-audio index=0" >> /etc/modprobe.d/sndusbaudio |
| 07:15.35 | Nai-ux | what does that do |
| 07:15.55 | cahoot | makes snd-usb-audio get index 0 i e default |
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| 07:16.34 | cahoot | Nai-ux: then (as root) alsa force-reload |
| 07:17.08 | Nai-ux | it works, thanks for your help cahoot :) |
| 07:17.19 | cahoot | np |
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| 07:19.58 | wad | peterrooney, the middle "uname -a" result I pasted was from the wrong box. That's the Ubuntu I'm running on my latop. The one with the issues is a true blue debian box. :) |
| 07:20.13 | wad | In related news, I did a dist update, and the box is now hosed. |
| 07:20.14 | dcbevins | cahoot is da man, i hate sound issues |
| 07:20.23 | wad | It just repeats GRUB a zillion times on boot. |
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| 07:21.17 | wad | So now a dozen websites are down, my email server is down, my internet access is down (I'm stealing from a neighbor's wireless now).... |
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| 07:22.03 | wad | Now, after this dist-upgrade, when it boots, I just get GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB ..... |
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| 07:22.18 | wad | Anyone know what might have gone wrong? I'm guessing something with grub... |
| 07:23.07 | wad | "Help me, Obiwan Kenobe, you're our only hope." |
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| 07:24.27 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: is this a remote box? what release are you running on it? |
| 07:24.51 | wad | Well, I've been updating it regularly with apt, but I haven't rebooted it in 458 days. |
| 07:24.54 | wad | Until now. |
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| 07:25.01 | wad | I did a dist-upgrade, then rebooted, and it's hosed. |
| 07:25.22 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: without answer to what I ask....? |
| 07:25.43 | wad | jpinx-eeepc, well, I wish I could answer, but I don't know the answer! |
| 07:25.51 | wad | That was a long time ago. |
| 07:26.09 | wad | And I can't tell, because currently, it's running nothing but GRUB errors. :( |
| 07:26.21 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: you don't know what operating system you have? |
| 07:26.34 | wad | It's Debian Lenny, or at least, that's what I intended. |
| 07:26.52 | wad | But I'm confused about what it really has, because I don't remember if I rebooted after the last dist-upgrade. |
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| 07:27.05 | wad | It used to run etch. |
| 07:27.06 | jpinx-eeepc | is it a remote box? |
| 07:27.13 | wad | It was, until it wouldn't come up. |
| 07:27.22 | wad | So I pulled it out of the closet, and it's on my desk top. |
| 07:27.26 | wad | s/top/now/ |
| 07:27.53 | jpinx-eeepc | sounds like a reinstall is in order |
| 07:28.00 | wad | faints cold |
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| 07:28.12 | jpinx-eeepc | if you are not even getting a grub prompt |
| 07:28.26 | jpinx-eeepc | do you have a live cd? |
| 07:28.29 | wad | jpinx-eeepc, will that wipe everything? |
| 07:28.39 | wad | jpinx-eeepc, I just checked, and I don't anymore. |
| 07:28.41 | jpinx-eeepc | you an boot froma live cd and try to fix it |
| 07:28.42 | wad | I can download one. |
| 07:28.55 | wad | Okay, I was hoping that would work! |
| 07:29.02 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: get a live cd, boot, chroot, fix it |
| 07:29.11 | wad | Okay, cool, 1 question first: |
| 07:29.22 | wad | This box *is* my router to the internet. |
| 07:29.45 | jpinx-eeepc | not at the moment i guess ;) |
| 07:29.47 | wad | So the net install won't work, because this box's eth0 receives ppp0 |
| 07:29.59 | wad | At the moment I'm using my neighbor's wireless. :) |
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| 07:30.13 | wad | So I'm thinking that the netinstall CD won't work. |
| 07:30.35 | D-Boy | ,versions libncurses5 |
| 07:30.38 | judd | libncurses5 -- etch: 5.5-5; lenny: 5.7+20081213-1; sid: 5.7+20100313-2; squeeze: 5.7+20100313-2 |
| 07:30.58 | wad | jpinx-eeepc, so, which image should I download then? |
| 07:31.31 | wad | jpinx-eeepc, does the netinstall disk have enough to chroot and fix the box? |
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| 07:31.45 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: download a live image from debian.org and burn it - then boot with it and hope that your configs are still intact |
| 07:31.59 | wad | jpinx-eeepc, yes, okay! |
| 07:32.01 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: no - get a live cde not the installer |
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| 07:32.07 | wad | Ah, okay. |
| 07:32.11 | wad | browses for it |
| 07:33.01 | wad | jpinx-eeepc, none of the links on this page are for a "live CD": http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
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| 07:36.10 | wad | Okay, I found some: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 07:36.59 | wad | What's the rescue one? I don't need a desktop; maybe this one is just a command prompt? |
| 07:37.55 | wad | There's also a "standard" one, that's much smaller. |
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| 07:39.43 | jpinx-eeepc | wad the rescue is ok, or you can get the lxde to be more comfortable in a gui |
| 07:39.57 | hanibanaa | in services like Courier-IMAPS/POP3S or Postfix SMTPS ; all of the session encrypted by SSL or just user/password ? |
| 07:40.00 | wad | I'm a command-line sort of guy. |
| 07:40.17 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: go with rescue then |
| 07:40.25 | wad | nods, cool. |
| 07:40.34 | wad | I suppose I'll chroot, then reinstall grub? |
| 07:41.06 | wad | This box boots to an md. There are two 250 GB SATA drives, with RAID-1. |
| 07:41.20 | wad | Will that make a difference in how I proceed? |
| 07:41.45 | wad | I'm thinking not. Though perhaps I should unplug one of the drives before I start. |
| 07:42.09 | liable | install it to the drive that the bios boots |
| 07:42.50 | wad | liable, okay. |
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| 07:49.34 | wad | Does lenny like grub 1 or 2? |
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| 07:52.03 | tbsaunde | wad: I believe only grub is in stable |
| 07:52.16 | wad | tbsaunde, okay, then grub 1 it is. Thanks! |
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| 08:15.02 | Utopiah | hi #debian |
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| 08:17.39 | Utopiah | so Im wondering how I can use debian-testing-i386-CD-1.iso with win32-loader{-standalone}.exe in order to avoid having to redownload the packages , I put both in the same directory, packed and unpacked but it didn't work. I couldn't find the doc for parameters and it's a GUI so...here Im asking |
| 08:18.00 | Utopiah | (PS : no, I don't have CDs or a USB key) |
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| 08:18.27 | Tobias| | From the debian repair console, how do I get into the grub console |
| 08:18.30 | Tobias| | From the debian repair console, how do I get into the grub console?* |
| 08:18.59 | Tobias| | Neither 'grub' nor 'grub2' as commands work |
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| 08:19.06 | Bushmills | ctrl-D |
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| 08:20.23 | Tobias| | Not sure how that helps >.> |
| 08:22.06 | Tobias| | aha |
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| 08:25.31 | wad | Wow, I'm not sure it's a good idea to be trying to fix my server's busted grub when I'm this sleepy. |
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| 08:27.24 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: if you have the live cd now and it's not urgent - get some sleep and come back focussed |
| 08:27.29 | andymac | okay, I'm new, and I'm having trouble installing a Broadcom 4311 wifi receiver. I've tried b43-fwcutter but I'm not sure that I did everything right, since it's still not working. does anyone have any idiot-proof advice? |
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| 08:28.03 | jpinx-eeepc | !broadcom |
| 08:28.03 | dpkg | Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <wl>. For Ethernet chipset support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>. |
| 08:28.24 | jpinx-eeepc | !b43 |
| 08:28.25 | dpkg | [b43] the driver for modern Broadcom 802.11b/g PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN chipsets, included in Linux since 2.6.24. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by the <b43legacy> driver. BCM4321/4322 (802.11n) and BCM4313 are not supported, ask about <wl>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. |
| 08:28.48 | jpinx-eeepc | !b43-fwcutter |
| 08:28.48 | dpkg | b43-fwcutter is a tool to extract version 4 and 3 firmware from Broadcom's proprietary drivers, for use by the <b43> and <b43legacy> drivers respectively. Available as a <contrib> package in Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#b43-b43legacy for further details. Squeeze users: the b43-fwcutter package does not download/extract firmware, install the relevant installer package ("apt-cache search firmware-b43"). |
| 08:29.01 | jpinx-eeepc | andymac: you get all that? |
| 08:29.45 | andymac | yeah, this stuff is known to me |
| 08:30.29 | jpinx-eeepc | !not working |
| 08:30.30 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 08:30.48 | jpinx-eeepc | andymac: be specific |
| 08:31.07 | andymac | point taken |
| 08:31.27 | Utopiah | (logs help to be specific) |
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| 08:33.04 | andymac | there are no error messages, I've followed a few tutorials up to this point, everything appears to have worked fine, except that I'm back to where I started; the system seems to not recognise that I have a wireless receiver. |
| 08:33.33 | andymac | I'll be back with more info as soon as I have it |
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| 08:35.50 | pallgone | mmh... nice, didn't debian has live usb images |
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| 08:35.54 | pallgone | *know |
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| 08:44.57 | andymac | okay, so first off, this is practically a fresh install of debian. and I have recently installed b43-fwcutter. This website: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 says that the install should be as simple as "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter", however, according to the synaptic package manager, b43-fwcutter was not on the list, so I installed this manually. Afterwards I used "sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware /home/andymac/Desktop/Downloads/wl_a |
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| 08:53.16 | pallgone | andymac: b43-fwcutter is in non-free repo, you have to add that first |
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| 08:54.01 | cahoot | linux-wireless.org still claims the debianprovided firmware for b43 is inadequate |
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| 08:56.16 | cahoot | err - wrong - it's been changed |
| 08:56.38 | karsten | cahoot: :) |
| 08:57.12 | jpinx-eeepc | andymac: ,versions b43-fwcutter |
| 08:57.25 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions b43-fwcutter |
| 08:57.25 | judd | b43-fwcutter -- etch/contrib: 1:011-1~etchnhalf.2; lenny/contrib: 1:011-5; sid/contrib: 1:013-2; squeeze/contrib: 1:013-2 |
| 08:58.17 | jpinx-eeepc | andymac: add contrib to your sources list and install it with *aptitude* not apt-get |
| 08:58.27 | andymac | ok |
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| 08:59.45 | jpinx-eeepc | andymac: and hope that your prrevious efforts to manually install it haven't broken something |
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| 09:01.29 | pallgone | eh, yeah, sorry, it's not in non-free :) |
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| 09:03.10 | andymac | thanks, I think this helps, but I'll have to wait for 10 minutes or so for the sources to update |
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| 09:05.19 | jpinx-eeepc | andymac: no sweat - you'd need to do that anyway ;) |
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| 09:06.26 | k1ng | hey |
| 09:06.38 | k1ng | can anyone help with bind9 roundrobin? |
| 09:06.44 | k1ng | cyclic and random |
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| 09:08.51 | eshat | tell k1ng about anyone |
| 09:09.55 | peterrooney | k1ng: try #bind ? |
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| 09:15.14 | eshat | any idea when ffmpeg 0.6 will get into sid ? VLC 1.1 just arrived but can't play webm files, (I think) because ffmpeg 0.5.2 does not support it |
| 09:15.52 | streuner | judd, versions ffmepg |
| 09:15.53 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ffmepg' was found. |
| 09:16.03 | streuner | judd, versions ffmpeg |
| 09:16.04 | themill | eshat: squeeze is planned to release with ffmpeg 0.5 |
| 09:16.05 | judd | ffmpeg -- etch: 0.cvs20060823-8+etch1; etch-security: 0.cvs20060823-8+etch1; lenny: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny1; lenny-security: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny1; etch-multimedia: 3:20070329-0.0etch1; lenny-multimedia: 3:20080706-0.3lenny1; sid: 4:0.5.2-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.2-1; experimental: 4:0.6-1; sid-multimedia: 5:0.6~svn20100603-0.0; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.6~svn20100603-0.0 |
| 09:17.03 | eshat | themill: wouldn't it be important to support webm with squeeze ? |
| 09:17.43 | eshat | and "ffmpeg 4:0.5.2-1 MIGRATED to testing " |
| 09:17.57 | themill | eshat: breaking every single multimedia application that uses ffmpeg at this stage of the release cycle isn't really an option |
| 09:18.54 | eshat | so I guess, they will wait for the freeze in squeeze ? |
| 09:19.17 | themill | no, they'll wait for squeeze to release |
| 09:20.59 | jpinx-eeepc | if a screen session is started by another user and left running can i open is as me? |
| 09:21.20 | jpinx-eeepc | beardy: might know :) |
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| 09:33.02 | peterrooney | jpinx-eeepc: if they've run acladd from within screen, maybe. if you're root, there's workarounds. |
| 09:33.58 | jpinx-eeepc | peterrooney: thanks - I killed it :) |
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| 09:50.25 | mlangenberg | What package do I need to install in order to have the 'mail' binary? |
| 09:51.29 | locklace | mlangenberg: bsd-mailx is a good choice |
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| 09:52.11 | k1ng | http://pastebin.com/aKp29uQz |
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| 09:55.54 | mlangenberg | locklace: I'm still running Etch and it seems the package is unavailable. Is 'mailx' still a good alternative? |
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| 09:58.30 | mlangenberg | Yeah I should upgrade soon. |
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| 10:06.39 | Name141 | http://paste.debian.net/78913/ |
| 10:06.49 | Name141 | is that all of the uh.. 'repos' ? |
| 10:07.47 | themill | Name141: you appear to be missing a main mirror. /msg dpkg mirrors |
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| 10:08.29 | Name141 | themill: How would I 'install it' ? |
| 10:08.56 | themill | Name141: you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list. /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 10:11.15 | Name141 | themill: like this? deb ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ |
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| 10:14.35 | Name141 | themill: Or do I need to find a lenny repo directly? |
| 10:15.02 | Name141 | themill: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/ ? |
| 10:16.21 | Name141 | :-\ |
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| 11:00.46 | Pussy | hi every one i need package to work on the video (cut,effect, . . . ) |
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| 11:10.02 | vsmatck | Pussy: I've never found one I could figure out. However, Pitivi looks very promising to me. The version in debian is too old tho. |
| 11:10.22 | vsmatck | It looks like it's on the level of iMovie. |
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| 11:10.48 | Pussy | vsmatck, tnx men |
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| 11:13.00 | abrotman | judd: info kino |
| 11:13.01 | judd | kino (graphics, extra): Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. Version: 1.3.0-2+lenny1; Size: 4620.7k; Installed: 9412k; Homepage: http://www.kinodv.org/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/kino |
| 11:14.12 | Pussy | tnx |
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| 11:15.11 | Bop | lol kino |
| 11:15.17 | Bop | great bullshit software |
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| 11:16.26 | frostschutz | kino is great, but for old dv camcorders only ;) |
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| 11:16.53 | Bop | is does not do shit |
| 11:16.58 | khaleel5100 | /j/msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 11:35.57 | ddalton | I have a machine on my network, which I would like to monitor all the ip addresses on the network and tell me how much data they send/receiv from the internet (isp), what is the best way to do this? |
| 11:38.01 | ddalton | i was thinking ipfm could do the trick? |
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| 11:41.05 | xand | ddalton: you would have to do it on the router |
| 11:42.39 | ddalton | xand: why? |
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| 11:42.54 | ddalton | can't arp watch and such keep track of who is on the network? |
| 11:42.55 | lvh | Hello. |
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| 11:43.17 | xand | ddalton: because traffic to/from the machines will go through the router but not another machine you connect |
| 11:43.23 | lvh | Gnome maps Super and Hyper to the same key (xmodmap line: mod4 Hyper_L (0x85), Hyper_R (0x86), Super_L (0xce), Hyper_L (0xcf)). |
| 11:43.37 | xand | you can see arp requests sure, but that's not helpful for measuring traffic rates |
| 11:43.41 | lvh | Is there some way to fix that, ie mapping supers to mod4 and mapping hypers to mod3 or vice-versa? |
| 11:43.54 | lvh | Obviously it can be done with xmodmap but I would prefer to try and use the Gnome tool. |
| 11:46.05 | lvh | What does mod3 even mean in X11 anyway? |
| 11:46.21 | djura-san | hai :) |
| 11:46.23 | ddalton | oh right so how does bandwidthd work then? |
| 11:48.54 | xand | ddalton: you run it on your router... |
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| 11:49.53 | p3rror | hello |
| 11:50.16 | p3rror | how to share internet connectivity using firehol |
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| 12:20.12 | simplechat | Random question, debian wiki doesn't actually give instructions as to how to install debian via usb (they give instructions for DSL for some very strange reason). Are there any instructions by debian for actually installing debian via usb? |
| 12:21.13 | themill | !usb install |
| 12:21.13 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
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| 12:22.34 | locklace | simplechat: best simple instructions i've seen are at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallUsingStandardInstaller#Preparation |
| 12:23.08 | simplechat | thats, hmmmmm |
| 12:23.11 | simplechat | surprisingly hacky |
| 12:23.27 | abrotman | simplechat: the installer guide has sufficient instructions, they work well |
| 12:23.56 | simplechat | i guess |
| 12:23.59 | simplechat | but they are insane hacks |
| 12:24.31 | abrotman | not really |
| 12:24.34 | locklace | the stuff in the official install guide is absurdly overcomplicated |
| 12:24.44 | simplechat | yeah |
| 12:24.51 | abrotman | it's really not, it's actually quite easy |
| 12:26.00 | abrotman | locklace: have you compared your eeepc instructions with the installer manual instructions? |
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| 12:27.21 | locklace | yes. a lot of the problem is the way the latter is written |
| 12:27.53 | abrotman | maybe you should try reading them again |
| 12:28.45 | simplechat | locklace, you have eeepc instructions? |
| 12:28.50 | simplechat | is specifically doing this on an eeepc |
| 12:29.00 | locklace | simplechat: i gave you the link above |
| 12:29.00 | lamdk | can you install debian completely on a extended partition?or does it need to be on a primary |
| 12:29.14 | abrotman | simplechat: use the official instructions |
| 12:29.25 | abrotman | simplechat: or go ask #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:29.39 | abrotman | they have specific instructions for that hardware IIRC |
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| 12:30.45 | simplechat | hmmmm |
| 12:30.48 | simplechat | ok |
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| 12:50.43 | eptalon | heya all. Just re-activated my sid (grub problem); what would you guys recommend for the home partition (3x1.5T), btrfs, zfs, or md/lvm? |
| 12:50.58 | eptalon | (on kernel 2.6.32) |
| 12:51.04 | abrotman | what's wrong with ext3? |
| 12:51.27 | eptalon | by itself, it does not span multiple disks. |
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| 12:52.29 | abrotman | well, LVM isn't a filesystem |
| 12:52.39 | eptalon | plus, an "lvm layer" is useful; I don't plan to use the (theoretical raid5-like) 3T right away. |
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| 12:53.15 | eptalon | have made good experience with xfs, but that too cannot span multiple disks, iirc. |
| 12:53.41 | abrotman | you're talking about two different things |
| 12:53.43 | Voldenet | How do I pass argument with spaces to executable in bash script? |
| 12:54.18 | Voldenet | i got $mountpoint file which contains windows share to mount |
| 12:54.34 | abrotman | quotes? |
| 12:54.45 | Voldenet | and i'm trying to do mount.cifs \\\\$hostname\\$mountpoint |
| 12:54.53 | eptalon | abrotman: 1) I need "a solution" that can manage multzpile disks, as one logical unit, with the option to expand, by adding more disks later on 2) On top of that, I need a filesystem. |
| 12:55.01 | Voldenet | Tried "" quotes and it didn't worked fine |
| 12:55.11 | Voldenet | work* |
| 12:55.25 | abrotman | ' ? |
| 12:55.43 | Voldenet | '\\'$hostname'\'$mountpoint |
| 12:55.46 | Voldenet | like that? |
| 12:55.54 | eptalon | abrotman: as for 2, I have made good experiences with xfs, and use ext4 (for boot) |
| 12:55.59 | roman_ | Voldenet: isn't it smb://$hostname/$mountpoint? |
| 12:56.10 | Voldenet | roman_, no. |
| 12:56.25 | Voldenet | It is working out of script |
| 12:56.52 | Voldenet | mount.cifs \\\\192.168.0.2\\My\ folder ~/My_folder |
| 12:56.53 | eptalon | Voldenet: if you use backslashes to escape, you probably don't need ticks. |
| 12:57.17 | roman_ | Voldenet: mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt |
| 12:57.23 | themill | Voldenet: you can use forward slashes with mount.cifs. See the man page |
| 12:57.23 | roman_ | Voldenet: from mount.cifs(8) |
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| 12:58.00 | Voldenet | roman_, you are looking for problem, which is not there |
| 12:58.12 | twantakur | hello .. help .. i m using debian lenny and i want to upgrade xorg to 1.5.99 |
| 12:58.18 | twantakur | how? |
| 12:58.23 | abrotman | why? |
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| 12:58.57 | twantakur | my sis671 driver needs xorg 1.5.99 |
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| 12:59.34 | eptalon | twantakur: what kind of hardware is that? |
| 12:59.53 | twantakur | display driver |
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| 13:00.07 | Voldenet | themill, i can use forward slashes, but that does not solve anything there |
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| 13:00.36 | eptalon | exit |
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| 13:01.38 | themill | Voldenet: mount -t "//$host/share with space" /mnt sounds a lot easier than trying to escape things. |
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| 13:02.27 | eptalon | hello again. |
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| 13:05.44 | Voldenet | themill, tried |
| 13:05.50 | Voldenet | got "host not found" there |
| 13:05.52 | Voldenet | ;| |
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| 13:07.19 | eptalon | Voldenet: thats unrelated. |
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| 13:07.41 | Voldenet | Well, it is the error which occurs after adding "" |
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| 13:14.10 | Voldenet | Ah, that was not "host not found", that was "unable to mount, invaild share, use man mount.cifs" |
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| 13:59.49 | gernot | Does somebody know where I can find a list of colors as they are being used by urxvt and mutt? They are in the form "color230" etc. I can't believe I'm not finding this. |
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| 14:00.16 | bkraptor | how do you search for a package using the channel bot? |
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| 14:02.45 | abrotman | bkraptor: with what criteria? |
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| 14:03.44 | bkraptor | package name |
| 14:03.50 | bkraptor | I need version numbers |
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| 14:04.29 | bkraptor | there was a ,<command> <package name> thing I saw yesterday |
| 14:04.35 | bkraptor | ,package iceweasel |
| 14:04.39 | bkraptor | ,packages iceweasel |
| 14:04.40 | bkraptor | hm |
| 14:04.42 | bkraptor | doesn't work |
| 14:05.59 | abrotman | bkraptor: you can use http://packages.debian.org/iceweasel ... or |
| 14:06.11 | abrotman | or /msg judd versions iceweasel |
| 14:06.23 | bkraptor | ah I think it's ,versions <package name> |
| 14:06.27 | bkraptor | ,versions iceweasel |
| 14:06.28 | judd | iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.8-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 3.5.9-3; sid: 3.5.10-1; experimental: 3.6.4-1 |
| 14:06.30 | bkraptor | that :) |
| 14:06.30 | bkraptor | thx |
| 14:06.56 | bkraptor | wonder when 3.6.6 will make its way into experimental |
| 14:07.23 | abrotman | MSG |
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| 14:07.38 | abrotman | ask the maintainer .. it's been out for what .. two days? |
| 14:08.09 | bkraptor | who's the maintainer? |
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| 14:08.18 | abrotman | use packages.debian.org |
| 14:08.24 | xxtjaxx | bkraptor: see apt-cache show iceweasel |
| 14:08.37 | xxtjaxx | might be a team due to rebranding and things |
| 14:09.23 | vinjacob | or /msg judd maint iceweasel |
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| 14:38.23 | ae86-drifter | My GFX card is weak. can i get rid of the lag in GNOME every time it sort of "fades" to black and asks for the root password? |
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| 14:41.21 | K0JIbKA | hi all, upon recent update of Debian Lenny network connection manager <wicd> refused to load into GNOME interface. /var/log/wicd says something like http://pastebin.com/0fDPNKQk how to bring it back if I didn't change any settings except upgrading my system through standart autoupdate? |
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| 14:42.39 | bzed | K0JIbKA: look at line 23 of /etc/wicd/wired-settings.conf |
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| 14:42.52 | bzed | K0JIbKA: seems there is something wrong, like an entry starting with [] for whatever reason |
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| 14:42.57 | bzed | K0JIbKA: remove it and try again |
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| 14:44.57 | DipSwitch | ae86-drifter: sounds like screensafer thing? |
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| 14:45.41 | DipSwitch | or maybe it's gtk-sudo |
| 14:45.58 | DipSwitch | what application does it want to start ae86-drifter ? |
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| 14:47.48 | K0JIbKA | bzed:looking |
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| 14:52.37 | K0JIbKA | bzed: that entry appeared after update. If to look at the date. Here is my complete </etc/wicd/wired-settings.conf> http://pastebin.com/MAH27j9c and I'm removing line 23 at the moment |
| 14:54.24 | K0JIbKA | ok, done, how to restart wicd daemon? |
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| 14:56.05 | DipSwitch | K0JIbKA: sudo /etc/init.d/wicd restart |
| 14:56.07 | DipSwitch | i guess |
| 14:58.04 | K0JIbKA | bzed: DipSwitch: Thanks, <wicd> is alive again:) |
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| 15:03.39 | DexTerDDIT | i need some help with a pppoe connection sharing over a network card is DHCP support |
| 15:03.50 | DexTerDDIT | can someone help |
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| 15:09.03 | MNZ | Hi. I installed squeeze and got apache2.2 + php5.3, I have a strange problem with apache, sometimes things just hang and don't complete loading... everything was working fine with lenny (apache2.2 + php5.2) |
| 15:09.53 | abrotman | things? as in the web pages? or the whole system? |
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| 15:10.28 | MNZ | the iceweasel status says that it's still transferring data, and it's just stuck. I just noticed that this happens for images mostly (being the biggest thing on the pages, about a 100kb image) |
| 15:10.36 | MNZ | webpages |
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| 15:11.08 | MNZ | and sometimes I try to telnet onto port 80 and apache doesn't even respond (telnet is gets stuck on "Trying 127.0.0.1....." |
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| 15:11.30 | abrotman | anything in top or in the error logs? |
| 15:11.57 | MNZ | the error logs are clean... both apache's and php's |
| 15:12.25 | orzo | i want firefox to display chinese characters... i tried installing a package ttf-arphic-uming, but that wasn't enough |
| 15:12.45 | orzo | what should i do? |
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| 15:13.45 | MNZ | there's also something wrong with invoke-rc.d, the apache and mysql initscripts themselves work when invoked directly, but using invoke-rc.d it just returns with no output and doesn't start/stop the daemons |
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| 15:14.29 | Aim_Here | orzo, I have ttf-wqy-microhei and ttf-wqy-zenhei installed and I get chinese characters. Maybe it's one of those |
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| 15:18.51 | MNZ | what can stop apache from accepting connections? |
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| 15:19.24 | orzo | Aim_Here: no luck. I have a 32bit chroot for firefox and i tried installing the fonts there too |
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| 15:19.51 | bzed | MNZ: firewall, wrong config, various other crap |
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| 15:20.35 | MNZ | bzed, I'm just accessing it from the localhost, and the config seems fine, it just stops accepting connections for no reason, and it's back when I restart it |
| 15:20.47 | MNZ | I'm on a laptop, this is not a server |
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| 15:24.11 | MNZ | can suhosin have anything to do with this? |
| 15:24.17 | orzo | trying this now: http://isis.poly.edu/~qiming/chinese-debian-mini-howto.html#Installing_Fonts |
| 15:25.29 | DexTerDDIT | i need some help with a pppoe connection sharing over a network card is DHCP support ( i tried dnsmasq with ipmasq but it did not work out ) ... |
| 15:26.17 | orzo | Aim_Here: installing those in the chroot did the trick |
| 15:26.39 | Aim_Here | Glad to hear it |
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| 15:31.25 | AKX | Evening. I was wondering, watching a VM shutting down... What might be the practical reason for "Deactivating swap..."? |
| 15:31.56 | abrotman | MNZ: you can easily try disabling it |
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| 15:33.56 | simonrvn | AKX: init script is 'what'. why is because some might be on file-based, hence mounted fs. |
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| 15:35.57 | bzed | MNZ: did you have a look in the logs? |
| 15:36.04 | bzed | MNZ: and which error do you get from your browser? |
| 15:36.09 | loopidity | what is wrong with this virtual host setting http://pastebin.com/tUPQtdYL |
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| 15:36.59 | bzed | loopidity: not sure if I'd use mod python these days |
| 15:37.20 | loopidity | bzed which is better, fast cgi or wsgi |
| 15:37.22 | bzed | loopidity: better use wsgi |
| 15:37.24 | bzed | http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/IntegrationWithDjango |
| 15:37.31 | loopidity | thanks |
| 15:37.38 | loopidity | will set it up |
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| 15:37.59 | bzed | mod python is more or less deprecated, upstream doesn't work on it anymore and its buggy |
| 15:38.27 | loopidity | ok, gotcha |
| 15:38.55 | loopidity | i was just playing around and could never got the virtual host working |
| 15:39.01 | bzed | the other option is to use fastcgi, probably iwth lighttpd or nginx |
| 15:39.16 | loopidity | if it werent virtual host, it is working :) |
| 15:39.24 | bzed | hmm |
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| 15:40.21 | bzed | loopidity: is your servername resolvable? |
| 15:40.36 | MNZ | bzed, yes, there's nothing in the logs, just the restart messages. |
| 15:40.57 | MNZ | The browser just fails to connect sometimes, and sometimes it simply stops mid-transfer |
| 15:40.59 | loopidity | hmm..not sure..but I think I will first get the wsgi working |
| 15:41.03 | loopidity | looks like way to go |
| 15:41.36 | AKX | loopidity: did you try the project with django's runserver first? |
| 15:41.44 | MNZ | trying to wget an image file when apache is having a fit sometimes doesn't connect and sometimes starts and transfers a few kbs then stops and hangs |
| 15:41.46 | loopidity | akx yes |
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| 15:41.52 | AKX | loopidity: okies, just checking. :) |
| 15:41.59 | loopidity | np thanks for help |
| 15:45.49 | wad | My server is having booting issues, I need some help. Last night I did a backup (added a third drive to the RAID-1 md, synced it, then failed it out), then did a dist-upgrade, then rebooted. It had been 458 days since the last reboot. It didn't come up, just generated GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB... on the screen. |
| 15:45.56 | wad | So I booted to the latest Debian rescue live-cd, mounted the md, then chrooted into it and did "grub-install" which seemed happy. On reboot it crashed to busybox, couldn't find important things on the filesystem. |
| 15:46.02 | wad | So then I unplugged both drives in the RAID-1, and replaced them with the single backup drive. It also gave GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB... on boot, so I booted to the live CD, mounted that md (single drive this time), chrooted, and did "grub-install" on it. No change. |
| 15:46.10 | wad | I think the best way to proceed at this point is to keep going with my backup drive to fix the grub booting issue. Number one priority is to get the server back online. Help? |
| 15:47.54 | wad | looks around hopefully |
| 15:48.37 | MNZ | wad, what 'important files' can't it find exactly? |
| 15:49.05 | wad | MNZ, fstab, init, .... |
| 15:49.49 | wad | MNZ, I cant't remember them all, the ones on the screen. I can go through the process again and write them down. I was doing this at 4:00 AM this morning, after no sleep, so I was kinda bleary. I've had a few hours of sleep now. |
| 15:50.23 | MNZ | well, I'm not familiar with RAID, so I'm not sure if I can help you out |
| 15:50.26 | jpinx | wad you have it backed up, you have the installer, it's probably easiest to re-instal - and this time do regular updates and upgrades |
| 15:50.29 | wad | The computer is in the basement, but I have to be upstairs to steal my neightbors wireless network so I can IRC. |
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| 15:50.57 | MNZ | jpinx makes a good point |
| 15:51.04 | wad | jpinx, I've been very duitiful with regular updates and upgrades, I just never rebooted it. Thought I didn't need to. *sigh* |
| 15:51.26 | wad | So a reinstall is many, many hours of work. |
| 15:51.42 | wad | This machines does a TON of stuff. |
| 15:51.45 | MNZ | well, can you eliminate the RAID part of this? just plug the HD in and try to boot off of it? |
| 15:51.46 | jpinx | wad I know you need pppoe, but that is not so hard to re-configure, and you will get help with that in here |
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| 15:52.36 | jpinx | wad no - depending on the exact system, you choose and the spped of your connection, you could netinstall in a couple of hours |
| 15:52.48 | wad | MNZ, I'm thinking no.... let me think about it. |
| 15:53.07 | jpinx | wad your machine is not doing a ton of anything at the moment :) |
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| 15:53.29 | MNZ | also, grub usually gives you an error number and a message, what was it? |
| 15:53.38 | wad | jpinx, but then I need to restore a bunch of databases on it, a dozen websites, a bunch of applications, email server, print server, hdcp server, etc etc etc |
| 15:54.04 | wad | MNZ: I don't see an error number, just a zillion GRUB GRUB GRUB. |
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| 15:54.36 | MNZ | I'm not familiar with this one.. a little googling is in order |
| 15:54.45 | jpinx | wad if the box was so critical why did you let it's maintenance lapse so badly? |
| 15:54.48 | wad | So I'm pretty sure I want to go down the road of fixing the grub issue first, to get the machine back up. |
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| 15:55.50 | wad | jpinx, see, that's one big question I have! I did "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" religiously. But it kept saying it was keeping back a kernel, and some other stuff. |
| 15:56.05 | wad | I asked in here, and people said not to worry about it. |
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| 15:56.24 | MNZ | wad, this maybe completely unrelated, but you might as well try http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/booting-my-new-ubuntu-install-%3D-grub-grub-grub-grub-grub-etc-518849/ |
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| 15:56.48 | wad | Then, after looking at the version of things that were running, it was running this really old kernel, so after consulting in here, I did a dist-upgrade and a reboot. Then death. |
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| 15:57.02 | wad | MNZ, thanks, let me read that! |
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| 15:58.56 | jpinx-ee1pc | plug one hdd in, boot the live cd and fix the system - doing grub-update is not enough |
| 15:59.16 | MNZ | he said he did a grub-install |
| 16:00.14 | jpinx-ee1pc | yes- and it didn't work, so he needs to loki deeper |
| 16:00.18 | nielsle | If I run kernel 2.6.30 my system boots nicely, but when I run 2.6.32-trunk-686 it gets stuck in gdm. I can solve the problem by starting running 2.6.32-trunk-686 in single user mode and write modprobe radeon. Should I solve it by adding radeon to some modutils file, or is there a better way? |
| 16:00.21 | jpinx-ee1pc | *look |
| 16:00.56 | jpinx-ee1pc | nielsle: what release are you running? squeeze? |
| 16:01.02 | nielsle | Sid |
| 16:01.10 | wad | jpinx-ee1pc, yes, I think that is the key here. A simple grub-install was not sufficient. I haven't messed with grub enough to know what to do at this point, though. |
| 16:01.13 | jpinx-ee1pc | \o/ |
| 16:02.03 | jpinx-ee1pc | wad I really do not think grub is the main problem -- I reckon your lack of maintenance has come up and bitten your hard in the arse |
| 16:02.25 | jpinx-ee1pc | ,kernels |
| 16:02.26 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-24); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 16:02.52 | jpinx-ee1pc | nielsle: try the right kernel? |
| 16:02.54 | MNZ | wad jpinx-ee1pc http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml see point #7 |
| 16:03.31 | jpinx-ee1pc | MNZ: don't look at me mate - I'm not the one with the b0rkd system ;) |
| 16:03.40 | MNZ | hehe |
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| 16:04.34 | wad | Okay guys. I'm going to be AFK while I'm in the basement trying stuff. See you in a few! Thanks for the pointers! |
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| 16:15.59 | wad | Okay, the hard drives are being detected right. I suspect that the problem is that this disk's MBR is bad. Is there a way to fix that? |
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| 16:16.39 | wad | When I set up this as a backup, I used dd to rewrite the MBR on this drive, so that it would be bootable. I never did a test of it, so this is it. |
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| 16:16.56 | MNZ | you need to install grub to the MBR |
| 16:17.24 | wad | MNZ, yes, I think that's the key. |
| 16:17.38 | wad | But grub-install doesn't do it... is there deeper magic? |
| 16:18.07 | MNZ | how did you invoke grub-install? |
| 16:18.55 | wad | chroot into the drive, then, as root, "grub-install /dev/md1" |
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| 16:19.37 | wad | Ah, I think I found a clue. "GRUB load its own loading code instead of the next loader stage, causing an infinite loop." |
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| 16:24.06 | ae86-drifter | Hi, i am running 2.6.26-2-486 kernel on a Dual Xeon 2.4Ghz. i would like to use the 2.6.26-2-686 kernel, but my SATA controller does not work using this one. is there anything i can do? |
| 16:24.17 | MNZ | well they changed grub so much :/ all I remember was the menu.lst file, what's up with this new grub |
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| 16:26.58 | ae86-drifter | It seems like it doesnt anyway, it is an IDE SATA controller, I have a 1TB disk mounted to /var/storage through it which works fine with *-486, but not *-686 |
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| 16:27.17 | jpinx | wad what version of grub are you running? |
| 16:27.18 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 16:27.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-24); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 16:27.23 | nielsle | Regarding the kernels and radeon. It looks like /usr/sbin/update-grub did not sort the kernels correctly, and that was the reason why I was using the wrong kernel: |
| 16:27.25 | nielsle | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.29 | superlinux | hi. the EeePC is which distro by orgin? |
| 16:27.37 | superlinux | is't debian? |
| 16:27.39 | wad | jpinx, it's not v2. |
| 16:28.12 | wad | jpinx, how do I tell what version it is? Right now I've got the machine chrooted, so I can see the file system. |
| 16:28.16 | jpinx | superlinux: eeepc's arre shipped with xandros linux |
| 16:28.22 | superlinux | ok |
| 16:28.25 | nielsle | Should I report this somewhere, of is linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686 so outdated that it doesn't matter. |
| 16:28.39 | jpinx | superlinux: but mine runs debian very nicely |
| 16:28.42 | xxtjaxx_ | superlinux: jpinx that was a long time ago |
| 16:28.44 | superlinux | and xandrox is a redhat based? |
| 16:29.04 | jpinx-eeepc | !xandros |
| 16:29.04 | dpkg | Xandros Corporation produces the Xandros Desktop Linux distribution, originally based on <Corel Linux>. It is not supported in #debian. Eee PC users with pre-installed Xandros: ask for assistance in #eeepc on irc.freenode.net. http://www.xandros.com/ See also <presto>, <based on Debian>. |
| 16:29.05 | jhutchins_lt | I thought trunk was obsolete. |
| 16:29.14 | superlinux | jpinx, my question has different aims |
| 16:29.18 | abrotman | it is very obsolete |
| 16:29.24 | abrotman | nielsle: your kernel is very out of date |
| 16:29.31 | jpinx-eeepc | superlinux: state youer aims :) |
| 16:29.53 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: apt-cache policy grub |
| 16:29.54 | abrotman | nielsle: aptitude install linux-image-686 .. then remove that -trunk- package after you boot from the -5- kernel |
| 16:30.01 | MNZ | wad, do you have the grub command line? try "# grub" |
| 16:30.12 | nielsle | abrotman: Thank you for the ansewr |
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| 16:30.34 | wad | MNZ: Okay, what commands shall I try from the grub prompt? |
| 16:30.35 | nielsle | the problem was that i had both kernels installed, but that is fixed now :) |
| 16:30.42 | wad | (I have to run down two flights of stairs to try.) |
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| 16:31.13 | superlinux | I have the bluetooth dongle that the manufacturer claims it works on Ubuntu. now I run debian , moreover my system is now 64bit. the manufacturer is BlueSoleil. |
| 16:31.54 | wad | I'll just check apt-cache on the grub version. Hang on, running downstairs. |
| 16:31.55 | superlinux | any way I forced the Ubuntu packages to be installed eventhough they are 32bit |
| 16:32.02 | ae86-drifter | can somebody recommend a good kernel to use for me? here is my cpu info http://pastebin.org/362123 |
| 16:32.04 | MNZ | wad, you need to use "root (hdN, M)", N being the hard disk number... not sure what md1 would be (/dev/sda maps to hd0, sdb = hd1, etc) and M is your root partition number |
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| 16:32.30 | jpinx-eeepc | superlinux: "forcing" is never going to produce4 stability ;) |
| 16:32.36 | superlinux | it runs. but the application does not respond to the existance of my dongle |
| 16:32.39 | MNZ | wad, you have /boot on a separate partition or on the root partition? |
| 16:32.51 | jpinx-eeepc | superlinux: I suggest you ask in #ubuntu |
| 16:32.54 | passwordoff | how to install debian from flashdrive? It asks for cdrom driver and it have no found. |
| 16:33.10 | jpinx-eeepc | !usb install |
| 16:33.10 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 16:33.20 | MNZ | wad, /dev/sda1 would be 'root (hd0, 1)' for example. |
| 16:33.21 | ae86-drifter | passwordoff i remember having that issue, i can't remember how to fix it though |
| 16:33.24 | superlinux | I am going to ask the manufacturer about it |
| 16:33.29 | jpinx-eeepc | passwordoff: ââ |
| 16:33.30 | superlinux | it's better |
| 16:33.46 | wad | Grub is 0.97-47lenny2 according to "apt-cache policy grub". |
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| 16:34.02 | jpinx-eeepc | superlinux: likie I said - my eeepc runs debian very happily |
| 16:34.20 | jpinx-eeepc | superlinux: come back here if you install linux and needany help |
| 16:34.22 | wad | MNZ: all in one partition. |
| 16:34.29 | superlinux | jpinx-eeepc, no! I am not on an eeepc |
| 16:34.40 | passwordoff | i'm on msi U100 |
| 16:34.43 | superlinux | i am on my own desktop |
| 16:34.48 | superlinux | and has debian |
| 16:35.23 | superlinux | I asked cos I want to check if I can install an EeePc pkg |
| 16:36.06 | jpinx-eeepc | superlinux: you said you forced ubuntu onto it? |
| 16:36.17 | jpinx-eeepc | superlinux: sounds like you have a bit of a mess there |
| 16:36.44 | passwordoff | jpinx-eeepc: there is no answer to my question, ae86-drifter have understand me |
| 16:37.24 | superlinux | there are pkgs for the Ubuntu 8 and 9 pkgs. I tried them only. only them. just one "deb" file of each i installed. I know what I am doing jpinx-eeepc |
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| 16:38.06 | passwordoff | I have error in installation runtime. I already have the bootable flash live and installation debian. |
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| 16:38.58 | abrotman | passwordoff: did you follow the instructions in the manual to create your usb instlaler? |
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| 16:39.24 | khaleel5000 | hello, i have debian sid, and nvidia 9600 GT , i updated my system from 2.6.32.4 to 2.6.32.5. I already had nvidia drivers installed, i am following this wiki, but i seem to get confused, there are no headers for 2.6.32.5 http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#WhyuseaDebian-specificmethod.3F |
| 16:39.38 | ae86-drifter | can someone please help me acheive this: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=156984&ssid=35722 |
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| 16:39.53 | ae86-drifter | i have the x server running but i don't know what to do |
| 16:40.14 | passwordoff | abrotman: yes i have. but now I'm using the dd if=debian.img of=/dev/sdc comand |
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| 16:40.45 | wad | Okay, guys. I think I'm going to shift gears, and try this from another angle. Instead of trying to get the MBR on my backup drive rebuilt, I'm going to put back in the original drives. When I boot to these ones, grub doesn't complain, but the box crashes to busybox claiming stuff is missing. I'll write those down, and come back upstairs and google it, and ask on here. |
| 16:40.45 | abrotman | passwordoff: where does it say to do that? |
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| 16:41.21 | passwordoff | installation process, after keyboard settings, the cdrom driver installation |
| 16:41.34 | MNZ | wad, I think you should just try and get grub working really. I'm not familiar with grub2 though and I was just reading some docs on http://grub.enbug.org/ |
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| 16:42.39 | jpinx-eeepc | wad: have you messed with your backup - so now everything is broken differently? :( |
| 16:44.32 | passwordoff | abrotman: ^^ |
| 16:46.49 | abrotman | passwordoff: in the official manual ? |
| 16:47.04 | MNZ | wad, try something out. I just checked on a server I have access to, it's got RAID, fdisk -l doesn't list partitions on /dev/md0/1/etc. Try 'grub-install /dev/sda/b/etc' perhaps? |
| 16:47.31 | jhutchins_lt | ae86-drifter: That's a shot of Mandriva running in a VM on Windows. What is it you want help with? |
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| 16:49.13 | ae86-drifter | jhutchins no it is not a VM. it is a Windows based X server running a Login manager remotely |
| 16:50.13 | ae86-drifter | jhutchins_lt: ^^ |
| 16:50.41 | ae86-drifter | of course i am running debian |
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| 16:51.40 | jhutchins_lt | ae86-drifter: Where? What's your question? |
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| 16:52.26 | ae86-drifter | jhutchins_lt, i want to run an xserver on windows and connect to my debian machine |
| 16:53.12 | jhutchins_lt | ae86-drifter: Go right ahead. |
| 16:53.23 | ae86-drifter | jhutchins_lt, thanks for all your help |
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| 16:54.27 | jhutchins_lt | ae86-drifter: You haven't asked any questions so far, just posted a cryptic screenshot. |
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| 16:56.12 | project2501b | hey guys, i'm getting this cryptic bind message : dns_master_load: /etc/bind/cbrc/a/cbrc.kaust.edu.sa:2: unexpected end of line |
| 16:56.12 | project2501b | dns_master_load: /etc/bind/cbrc/a/cbrc.kaust.edu.sa:1: unexpected end of input |
| 16:56.18 | project2501b | clues, please? |
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| 16:56.48 | MNZ | ae86-drifter, perhaps you should google for a tutorial on setting up xming? |
| 16:57.11 | MNZ | a quick google turns up http://digitizor.com/2009/03/01/how-to-forward-an-x11-session-to-windows-over-ssh/ |
| 16:57.59 | puty | a |
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| 16:58.22 | jpinx-eeepc | ae86-drifter: rdesktop ? |
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| 17:09.29 | jhutchins_lt | project2501pretty easy, one of your zone files has an improper EOL. |
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| 17:11.24 | ae86-drifter | thanks, i now got remote linux apps integrated with my windows desktop :) |
| 17:11.32 | passwordoff | So. Any idea about cdrom error at the runtime installation from flash? |
| 17:12.41 | ae86-drifter | passwordoff you need to start the installer with a special switch --**** something i cant remember |
| 17:13.10 | passwordoff | what means start with switch? how it could be done? |
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| 17:13.16 | ae86-drifter | --nocdrom or something i think? |
| 17:13.35 | ae86-drifter | i remember finding the answer with google |
| 17:14.04 | jpinx-eeepc | passwordoff: pastebin the command and errors |
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| 17:15.40 | jpinx-eeepc | passwordoff: I am assuming you are using a USB flash memory drive and your machine's bios allows you to boot from USB and you have selected the correct device to boot from within the bios menu? -- all as per the instructions... |
| 17:16.20 | passwordoff | jpinx-eeepc: yes you are rigth |
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| 17:18.26 | passwordoff | maybe disable cdrom in bios? |
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| 17:21.46 | passwordoff | jpinx-eeepc: so? |
| 17:22.13 | jpinx-eeepc | passwordoff: so what? where's the pastebin? |
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| 17:22.57 | passwordoff | there is no any comand |
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| 17:25.13 | passwordoff | which could be pasted |
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| 17:43.56 | taras | hi. gonna update lenny->squeeze, asked dpkg for that; but I have a lots of packages from backports - will there be any troubles during upgrade? |
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| 17:44.50 | allisterb | hi Debian lenny - I installed gcc but a program I'm trying to ./configure tells me it can't find the C++ compiler. What package has g++? |
| 17:45.11 | bzed | allisterb: g++ |
| 17:45.45 | allisterb | :D |
| 17:45.46 | MNZ | allisterb, you may just want to install the package build-essential though |
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| 17:45.54 | bzed | allisterb: you probably also want to learn about packages.debian.org :) |
| 17:46.38 | allisterb | ok I will thanks, I just thought it was in gcc |
| 17:47.06 | thesamet | So there is some packages which is 241 days in preparations here: |
| 17:47.11 | thesamet | http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged |
| 17:47.20 | abrotman | thesamet: probably some longer than that |
| 17:47.22 | thesamet | Does it make sense to submit another RFP request? |
| 17:47.29 | thesamet | if I am willing to maintain it. |
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| 17:47.59 | thesamet | The current maintainer is not being responsive to the original ITP request. |
| 17:48.01 | abrotman | you can append that bug and say that you are willing to do it |
| 17:48.07 | abrotman | thesamet: which package? |
| 17:48.18 | thesamet | webilder, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=553184 |
| 17:48.52 | abrotman | thesamet: oh, you did append it |
| 17:49.02 | thesamet | yes, but it feels that it got ignored. |
| 17:49.10 | thesamet | I am not sure how to proceed. |
| 17:49.16 | thesamet | whether another ITP request is appropriate. |
| 17:49.40 | themill | thesamet: Have you contacted the guy who said he'd do the packaging? |
| 17:49.50 | abrotman | thesamet: direct the email to Robin in the bug report, and ask him if he/she's is still going ot package or if perhaps you could do it since you are also upstream |
| 17:49.51 | thesamet | yes, ignored a personal email too. |
| 17:49.52 | themill | (no a new ITP is not appropriate, one is enough) |
| 17:50.08 | thesamet | I did few weeks ago |
| 17:50.16 | thesamet | and never got a reply |
| 17:51.03 | abrotman | thesamet: right, it's better to do it in the bug report/bts for all to see .. you can say that you are going to work toward preparing packages also |
| 17:51.39 | thesamet | I actually have packaged it already. I am ready to upload, but waiting for 'bureaucracy'. |
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| 17:52.29 | abrotman | and your packages are Debian quality, or just merely packaged? |
| 17:52.57 | thesamet | I followed the guidelines, but this is my first package. So it probably needs someone to review. |
| 17:53.02 | themill | thesamet: As a first step, you can upload your package to mentors.debian.net and seek further assistance in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net; /msg dpkg mentors. |
| 17:53.33 | thesamet | themill: will do that. |
| 17:54.42 | themill | thesamet: I've pinged the QA team about how they would recommend proceeding on this one. Generally, if there's been no activity on an ITP for 3 or 6 months, then it's up for grabs for someone else to have a bash at it. |
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| 17:55.16 | thesamet | themill: thanks, so how can I grab it then? |
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| 17:58.09 | themill | thesamet: hold on for a bit... but the procedure would be to change the owner of the bug to yourself with a brief explanation of why you are doing so (offering for the other guy to co-maintain it would be polite!). "/msg dpkg bts" for how to do so. You then need to get someone to review and sponsor your package which is where mentors comes in. |
| 17:58.43 | thesamet | ok |
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| 17:59.38 | thesamet | themill: I posted a message on the bug, but got ignored, that's my original question. |
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| 18:00.00 | blast_hardcheese | What package or setting is providing "__ packages can be upgraded" when I log into my box running testing? |
| 18:00.14 | blast_hardcheese | I've never seen that before, I'd like to backport it to my stable box |
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| 18:01.52 | jpinx-eeepc | blast_hardcheese: are you running aptitude? |
| 18:01.57 | blast_hardcheese | Yes |
| 18:02.11 | blast_hardcheese | Well, wait; "running aptitude" |
| 18:02.31 | blast_hardcheese | No, I'm getting that prompt every time I open a shell on the box |
| 18:02.42 | blast_hardcheese | but I use aptitude for everything |
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| 18:04.29 | SeySayux | Hi. In a deb package, is it required to list dependencies needed to make test cases too? |
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| 18:05.09 | blast_hardcheese | SeySayux: Maybe in the -dev version? |
| 18:05.16 | jpinx-eeepc | blast_hardcheese: something about aptitude must be running to do that |
| 18:05.41 | jpinx-eeepc | blast_hardcheese: ps -a | grep apt dpkg |
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| 18:06.23 | SeySayux | blast_hardcheese: yea, I know, but do I need to run test cases when a package is being packed? I mean, that would be nonsensical to me, but after using debian for a while, nothing is nonsensical anymore... |
| 18:07.41 | blast_hardcheese | jpinx-eeepc: grep apt dpkg would grep or "apt" in the file dpkg |
| 18:07.47 | puty | hi. Main rules to block udp's port is: iptables -A INPUT -i ath0 -p udp --dport 0:65535 -j DROP but seems to dosen't work. I mean the skype still work |
| 18:07.53 | blast_hardcheese | jpinx-eeepc: but no, nothing is running that contains either apt or dpkg |
| 18:08.19 | blast_hardcheese | jpinx-eeepc: I've got aptdaemon installed on the boxes I'm seeing this behaviour on, but I've installed it on my stable box (-t testing) and haven't gotten the same results. |
| 18:08.37 | jpinx-eeepc | blast_hardcheese: odd - but it's testing so wdik? :) |
| 18:08.40 | bzed | puty: skype uses pretty much every possible way to communicate |
| 18:08.46 | abrotman | puty: you want to block all UDP ? |
| 18:08.51 | bzed | puty: in the worst case via tcp port 80 :) |
| 18:09.05 | blast_hardcheese | jpinx-eeepc: heh, I'll just dist-upgrade; testing is better in almost all cases anyway. |
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| 18:09.15 | puty | ok one second |
| 18:09.21 | bzed | puty: look into layer7 filters for skype |
| 18:09.47 | puty | i know that skype use much way to communicate |
| 18:10.07 | bzed | puty: apt-cache show l7-protocols |
| 18:10.08 | puty | abortman yes i want to block all udp |
| 18:10.17 | blast_hardcheese | Another question; What apt proxy is the best to use? I've had limited success with apt-proxy, and I think apt-cacher-ng is not being maintained anymore, haven't gotten updates for it in ages |
| 18:10.20 | jpinx-eeepc | puty: if skype is running it needs to connect in order to work, if you block it you might as well close the application ? |
| 18:10.22 | puty | i am trying iptables hows work |
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| 18:10.26 | bzed | puty: blocking all udp does not make any sense. |
| 18:10.28 | abrotman | blast_hardcheese: i had pretty good luck with approx |
| 18:10.38 | bzed | puty: you're blocking DNS, too. |
| 18:10.47 | puty | bzed wait |
| 18:10.55 | blast_hardcheese | abrotman: wow, never would have found that; I was searching for 'apt' and looking at the descriptions |
| 18:11.07 | bzed | puty: and if you leave port 53 out, skype will use it to communicate |
| 18:11.07 | jpinx-eeepc | puty just pull the ethernet plug out? |
| 18:11.21 | abrotman | blast_hardcheese: apt-cache search apt proxy |
| 18:13.06 | puty | i am seeing with ip traf all packages and i can see unique connectios via udp port 65162 |
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| 18:13.52 | puty | how is possible if i block all udp ports? |
| 18:14.09 | abrotman | you only blocked a certain range on one interface |
| 18:14.24 | blast_hardcheese | abrotman: Do you know what options can be passed to aptitude to get the same functionality, aptitude search 'apt proxy' only gives 'apt-proxy' as a result |
| 18:14.47 | puty | abortman is main unique interface |
| 18:15.25 | abrotman | blast_hardcheese: aptitude search '~dapt~dproxy' |
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| 18:16.03 | mastro | can somone tell me the current version of evolution (mail) on lenny? thanks |
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| 18:16.20 | blast_hardcheese | abrotman: many thanks |
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| 18:22.12 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions evolution |
| 18:22.13 | judd | evolution -- etch: 2.6.3-6etch2; etch-security: 2.6.3-6etch2; lenny: 2.22.3.1-1; squeeze: 2.30.1.2-3; sid: 2.30.2-1 |
| 18:22.23 | jpinx-eeepc | mastro: ââ |
| 18:24.34 | mastro | jpinx-eeepc, tnx |
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| 18:28.06 | puty | I mean how it's possible that there is traffic? traffic in the ports that should be blocked? |
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| 18:29.09 | enigma87 | hey everyone |
| 18:29.19 | BTuser | hi all ^^ |
| 18:29.33 | BTuser | i'm wondering if someone know an anti ddos attack for my server |
| 18:29.34 | BTuser | please |
| 18:30.01 | BTuser | thanks for you answeres |
| 18:30.18 | abrotman | BTuser: using backtrack linux? |
| 18:30.25 | BTuser | yes ^^ |
| 18:30.31 | abrotman | BTuser: ask #backtrack-linux or ##linux |
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| 18:31.02 | enigma87 | Does anyone here have much experience encrypting the hard drive using preseed? |
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| 18:33.20 | pippijn | hi |
| 18:33.28 | pippijn | I'm getting this error: *** update-locale: Error: invalid locale settings: LANG=en_US.utf8 |
| 18:33.55 | pippijn | with locales version 2.11.1-3 |
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| 18:40.09 | BlockCold | hi rahul |
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| 18:45.37 | foetus | hello, i have compiled a new 2.6.32 kernel, and now comes 'ext3-fs mounted with writeback mode', normally ext3 is mounted with ordered data mode -- so must i change something in the kernel config or is 'writeback data mode' ok? |
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| 18:47.10 | Vroomfondle | foetus: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=75152 looks appropriate |
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| 18:47.39 | allisterb | k got another silly question what's the package for the latest SQLite shared library? is it libsqlite0? or libsqlite3 something? |
| 18:47.58 | foetus | Vroomfondle: lets see. thanks. |
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| 18:49.17 | jhutchins | allisterb: aptitude search libsqlite |
| 18:49.37 | themill | allisterb: they're different versions entirely. Applications usually need one or other. |
| 18:49.52 | allisterb | got it, thanks |
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| 18:52.42 | foetus | Vroomfondle: Ok, thanks again -- very interesting article, i'm reading.. :) |
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| 19:00.22 | foetus | Vroomfondle: Good - writeback data mode is standard for the >=30s -- solved. thanks. |
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| 19:00.31 | ernetas | Hey guys. |
| 19:00.48 | ernetas | Accidentally I ran passwd -c in /etc directory. |
| 19:01.03 | ernetas | Restored the passwd file from /var/backups/, but it's still not working. |
| 19:01.06 | ernetas | Any ideas why? |
| 19:01.19 | ernetas | Well, I can login now, but it still struggles to work normally. |
| 19:01.31 | ernetas | I wonder if passwd command affects any other files. |
| 19:01.46 | OpenTokix | /etc/shadow |
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| 19:01.56 | ernetas | Well, this one seems normal. |
| 19:02.19 | ernetas | (it wasn't written to it since yesterday, according to ls) |
| 19:02.32 | int80_h | hi, how do I try and locate a particular library apt-get says I have installed, but cannot be found by a package I am trying to conpile and install manually? |
| 19:02.52 | themill | int80_h: "dpkg -L packagename" is often handy |
| 19:04.48 | sauvin | You may have to install a -dev lib if you're trying to compile something. |
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| 19:05.22 | int80_h | ahhh! |
| 19:05.29 | int80_h | so zlib-dev is what I need |
| 19:05.33 | int80_h | or somethign like that |
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| 19:05.52 | ernetas | Any ideas for me |
| 19:05.53 | ernetas | ? |
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| 19:07.24 | paulk-debian-tes | Et zut j'ai fait un mauvais raccourci clavier et ça m'a "stopped irssi" |
| 19:08.38 | paulk__ | Vla que je peux même pas le kill |
| 19:10.41 | blast_hardcheese | abrotman: aproxy was difficult to configure until I read the man page, now it's working like a charm :) |
| 19:11.22 | ernetas | Oh, I just forgot to chmod the shadow and passwd. That was the problem. |
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| 19:13.55 | abrotman | blast_hardcheese: yes .. man pages are good |
| 19:13.59 | abrotman | paulk__: english |
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| 19:14.30 | themill | paulk__: Ctrl+S, Ctrl+Q? |
| 19:14.49 | abrotman | oh .. 'fg' ? |
| 19:15.04 | themill | yeah, more likely |
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| 19:20.59 | foetus | foetus again -- i have ridden few minutes ago that ext4 with 'writeback data mode' doesn't do journalling data at all, so what's with ext3 in this case? Is journalling provided with this setting or not? |
| 19:21.03 | int80_h | what's the name of the OpenGL C libraries package? |
| 19:21.14 | int80_h | I can't figure it out using apt-cache search |
| 19:21.31 | int80_h | I tried making some guesses, but this program I am trying to install still can't find it |
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| 19:23.52 | abrotman | int80_h: mesagl-dev perhaps ? |
| 19:24.18 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... in metacity ....the screen seems to have low refresh rate .... it grays the revealed windows a part of second and then appear ... any suggestions ? |
| 19:25.06 | foetus | i have heard that ubuntu has backported the changes introduced with the 30s kernels..to make ext4 more reliable.. |
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| 19:25.22 | lvh | Hello. |
| 19:25.41 | lvh | I'm using graphviz to make a graph. It's a digraph; but a subgraph cluster in my digraph is undirected. |
| 19:25.54 | lvh | Is there a way to make the "none" arrowhead the default for an entire subgraph cluster_foo? |
| 19:25.56 | abrotman | foetus: ask them? |
| 19:26.11 | lvh | I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place, but I couldn't find a better one. |
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| 19:28.16 | foetus | abrotman: :)no, i still heard about -- but.. makes it a difference using ext3 with writeback or ordered? |
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| 19:29.56 | abrotman | one would assume so |
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| 19:30.49 | Name141 | Debian doesn't use ext4 yet? |
| 19:31.00 | Name141 | it says it's partitioning with ext3 |
| 19:31.39 | XLV | nope, stable doesnt |
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| 19:32.03 | Name141 | okie dokey. Is there anything special I should know switching from broketu |
| 19:32.05 | Name141 | ubuntu* |
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| 19:33.35 | simonrvn | !lenny release notes |
| 19:33.35 | dpkg | rumour has it, lenny release notes is at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/releasenotes . See also http://bugs.debian.org/release-notes and http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny . Also ask me about <i-g>, <installer firmware>, <etch->lenny key>, <errata>. |
| 19:33.56 | craigevil | Name141: you can use the kmuto installer if you want ext4 |
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| 19:34.11 | foetus | abrotman: i mean, in point of data consistency -- with 'noatime' and defaults.. |
| 19:34.12 | XLV | Name141, not much, just dont ask latest packages in stable |
| 19:35.00 | foetus | abrotman: ext3, for sure. |
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| 19:36.53 | Name141 | I would need to put the line ' deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian lenny main contrib ' to get the latest security, and packages from the 'repo' (I guess that's the term here) ? |
| 19:37.02 | Name141 | line in /etc/apt/sources.list * |
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| 19:37.27 | abrotman | you forgot the security.debian.org source ? |
| 19:37.30 | Name141 | or are they already configured with everything ? |
| 19:38.03 | foetus | i'm switching back to 2.6.29.. |
| 19:38.26 | Name141 | I'll just wait and see what happens after it all install I guess abrotman. |
| 19:39.07 | Name141 | I downloaded the lxde CD1 iso cause it's an old machine. |
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| 19:51.54 | brutus | hi, I'm not getting any audio using VLC, but other players work fine...what's the problem? |
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| 19:58.28 | khaleel5000 | hi, i have 2 gig ram, on c2d 2.1 ghz, reading from this article, i wanted to try to decrease vm swappiness, but there appears to be no line in sysctl.conf (the article i am referring http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=31275) |
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| 19:58.35 | khaleel5000 | from where can i change ti |
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| 20:00.06 | pallgone | khaleel5000: you have to create the line |
| 20:01.05 | simonrvn | you make the line |
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| 20:01.16 | khaleel5000 | ok so i just enter a figure like vm.swappiness=20 in that file (sysctl.conf ?) and in your opinion any figgure that is suitable for desktop ? |
| 20:01.22 | khaleel5000 | Laptop* |
| 20:01.38 | perlsyntax | Is there any update ? |
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| 20:02.21 | perlsyntax | what is this debian 5.05 is this a update? |
| 20:03.02 | jhutchins_lt | perlsyntax: You're not making much sense, but D5.0.5 is an update to D5.0.4. |
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| 20:03.07 | ``y7 | i have debian 5.0.2.... if i install that, and do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade... will it update me to the latest thing, or would i be better off dling a fresh one right now? |
| 20:03.11 | perlsyntax | thanks |
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| 20:03.25 | jhutchins_lt | perlsyntax: And/or contains updates to packages released with earlier versions of 5.0.x |
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| 20:04.03 | jhutchins_lt | ``y7: It should work fine, it's trivial package updates. You might want to look at the notes. |
| 20:04.05 | perlsyntax | i see.So i need to download 5.0 then. |
| 20:04.19 | jhutchins_lt | perlsyntax: As opposed to what? |
| 20:04.28 | pallgone | khaleel5000: I've set mine to 10 |
| 20:04.33 | perlsyntax | i want the update iso |
| 20:04.49 | perlsyntax | i was not sure if i had to get 5.0 first. |
| 20:04.54 | jhutchins_lt | perlsyntax: The .5 iso's were't up yet as of yesterday. You could do an on-line update. |
| 20:05.00 | ``y7 | jhutchins, i never know which one to download.... i have an asus a7m-266d... how can i tell which debian version to dl from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 20:05.12 | khaleel5000 | pallgone: ok, thanks |
| 20:05.13 | perlsyntax | thanks |
| 20:05.19 | jhutchins_lt | perlsyntax: As of yesterday you could download 5.0.4 images and could only update to .5 on-line. |
| 20:05.23 | perlsyntax | that all i need to know:D |
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| 20:05.35 | perlsyntax | where i find that. |
| 20:06.25 | pallgone | I'm having an LVM partition with squeeze on it, running update-grub from squeeze on the other partition (without LVM) it detects the LVM but gives some errors like that: |
| 20:06.28 | pallgone | Found Debian GNU/Linux (squeeze/sid) on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-root |
| 20:06.29 | pallgone | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no mapping exists for `VolGroup00-root'. |
| 20:06.38 | pallgone | any ideas? |
| 20:06.39 | jhutchins_lt | perlsyntax: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/ |
| 20:06.43 | perlsyntax | thanks |
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| 20:07.47 | joe9 | need help on bio chemistry |
| 20:07.53 | jhutchins_lt | perlsyntax: You could use the 64b version, but it's probably better to start with the 32b. |
| 20:08.19 | joe9 | what |
| 20:08.25 | perlsyntax | i use 32 bit laptop |
| 20:08.30 | jhutchins_lt | ``y7: I would recommend the netinst CD - that's likely to pull the .5 versions of things anyway. |
| 20:08.50 | perlsyntax | i only have dvd disk that all. |
| 20:09.05 | ``y7 | jhutchins_lt, but i never know which one to get... i click on the i386 netinst and then it shows me a list of 25 diff dls???? |
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| 20:09.35 | perlsyntax | i download the debian -update-5.04:) |
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| 20:10.08 | ``y7 | jhutchins_lt: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/bt-cd/debian-504-i386-netinst.iso.torrent ? |
| 20:10.24 | jhutchins_lt | perlsyntax: What are you starting from? |
| 20:10.39 | jhutchins_lt | ``y7: That's the bittorrent file for the net install iso. |
| 20:10.47 | ``y7 | so that should be good then? |
| 20:11.59 | jhutchins_lt | ``y7: Yep. I do the direct downloads instead of the torrents myself, but if you're happy with that go for it. |
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| 20:12.34 | ``y7 | i try and share things back to the community... it's the same iso, correct? IE: there's no extra risk dling the torrent vs the http file? |
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| 20:12.54 | perlsyntax | debian-update-5.04 dvd iso i downloading. |
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| 20:13.20 | abrotman | perlsyntax: why? |
| 20:13.35 | dvs | ``y7: the torrent will double check the image to see that it's uncorrupted |
| 20:13.41 | perlsyntax | i shouldn't download that one i take it. |
| 20:14.06 | abrotman | perlsyntax: if the target system will have access to the internet, no |
| 20:14.30 | perlsyntax | i see |
| 20:14.43 | abrotman | and see /topic, 5.0.5 is out, but no images yet AIUI |
| 20:14.46 | perlsyntax | rats i thought i was. |
| 20:15.25 | ``y7 | dvs, awesome. thanks for the help. |
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| 20:15.37 | ``y7 | jhutchins_lt, thanks for the help. |
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| 20:16.06 | dvs | np |
| 20:16.11 | perlsyntax | i download the 5.0 and then update from the internet then. |
| 20:16.16 | dvs | yup |
| 20:16.18 | Name141 | I installed debian, but it seems to be hanging at "activating swap..." |
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| 20:17.09 | project2501b | allo |
| 20:17.26 | Name141 | I suppose I should have let it download the updates instead of disconnecting the NIC :-\ |
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| 20:18.02 | project2501b | Name141: you need to regenerate initrd |
| 20:18.16 | Name141 | project2501a: how? it's hung |
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| 20:19.01 | project2501b | singe mode, fool |
| 20:19.19 | Name141 | project2501b: It seems to be booting properly now |
| 20:19.39 | project2501b | Name141: also, you can get a live cd, remount everthing and chroot |
| 20:19.41 | project2501b | same shit |
| 20:19.44 | project2501b | afro samurai |
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| 20:20.26 | Name141 | I think I'll just wait till tonight and redo it all when I have unlimited bandwith and it can install everything properly. |
| 20:20.45 | Name141 | I only have about 200 MBs of my 425 MBs of rolling FAP left |
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| 20:27.33 | LinuxGuy2009 | If I install debian with no desktop environment and then later run "tasksel" and choose to add a desktop environment is there a way to change which one is considered to be the default? Like tell the system that KDE should be looked at as the default desktop instead of gnome for example? |
| 20:28.08 | LinuxGuy2009 | Or would I simply apt-get install to add KDE manually? |
| 20:28.10 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: you can just `aptitude install xorg kde kdm` if you want |
| 20:28.15 | abrotman | use aptitude, not apt-get |
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| 20:28.29 | rozie | and kdebase is better then kde |
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| 20:28.47 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok cool. Thanks guys. |
| 20:28.53 | abrotman | why? if he wants kde, use kde or kdefull (depends which versoin of debian) |
| 20:30.05 | freeone3000 | While running a dist-upgrade from a four-month-old, halfway through I seem to have broken my TCP stack. The most-related item in dpkg.log recently is 'update-inetd'. Is there a way to restart the network stack without restarting the machine? (Currently, even traceroute complains that "google.com" is an invalid host) |
| 20:30.21 | aguitel | i have twice synaptic item in debian software center |
| 20:30.49 | LinuxGuy2009 | One other question is about my Dell Mini 10v netbook. It has a Broadcom BCM4312 wireless adapter. Is there a list or a good common replacment for it that does not require non-free drivers/firmware? |
| 20:31.00 | abrotman | don't think so |
| 20:31.07 | abrotman | !tell LinuxGuy2009 about bcm43`1 |
| 20:31.09 | abrotman | !tell LinuxGuy2009 about bcm4312 |
| 20:32.44 | LinuxGuy2009 | But how can I find a replacement adapter that is supported right out of the box by the kernel? |
| 20:33.19 | abrotman | wikipedia has a decdent list of freeness of drivers |
| 20:33.55 | LinuxGuy2009 | nm |
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| 20:35.24 | jhutchins_lt | freeone3000: /etc/init.d/networking restart might do it. |
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| 20:36.13 | freeone3000 | Aha, thanks. Now it's "unknown host", not "invalid argument 3". Much better. :) |
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| 20:38.58 | spo0nman | hi, can someone suggest a tool to find out network speed between two hosts? |
| 20:39.34 | aguitel | i have twice synaptic item in debian software center,anyone know to fix this ? |
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| 20:42.05 | zebradog | spo0nman, ping |
| 20:42.32 | spo0nman | zebradog: ping just does icmp |
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| 20:43.14 | pozic | How can you change the font size of the address bar in chromium-browser? |
| 20:43.44 | pozic | (It seems a million people already asked this question a year ago; one would hope that Google finally fixed this problem. |
| 20:43.45 | zebradog | pozic, nobody uses chrome |
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| 20:43.55 | zebradog | pozic, its not open source.. OUCH |
| 20:44.06 | pozic | zebradog: can you please STFU with your ignorance. |
| 20:44.49 | zebradog | says to look at topic. period. |
| 20:44.52 | abrotman | spo0nman: netcat |
| 20:44.57 | bzed | pozic: interesting question, for me it is just right - but no idea how to change it :) |
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| 20:45.39 | bzed | zebradog: stop whining. chromium-browser is in debian, so we support it. period. |
| 20:45.40 | craigevil | zebradog: chromium-browser is in the debian repo, so it is on topic |
| 20:45.52 | craigevil | Filename: pool/main/c/chromium-browser/chromium-browser |
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| 20:46.24 | pozic | bzed: I think for certain screen configurations it is OK, but not for all. |
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| 20:48.40 | spo0nman | abrotman: isn't there an easier way? |
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| 20:50.02 | bzed | pozic: maybe the font size is reduced due to http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=43268 |
| 20:50.05 | ``y7 | i'm in the process of doing a netinstall and the monitor went blank and it's been blank for about 20 mins now. however, the monitor led is still green, indicating it's receiving signal. how long shoud i give it before determing the install has failed? |
| 20:50.30 | bzed | pozic: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=27357&q=location%20bar%20font%20size&colspec=ID%20Stars%20Pri%20Area%20Feature%20Type%20Status%20Summary%20Modified%20Owner%20Mstone%20OS |
| 20:50.58 | bzed | ``y7: did you use the graphjical installer? |
| 20:51.03 | ``y7 | yes |
| 20:51.30 | bzed | ``y7: give the text only installer a try, guess the graphical mode messed up something with your graphics card settings or monitor |
| 20:51.51 | jhutchins_lt | bzed: Chromium is not "in" debian; it's a third party program. |
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| 20:52.02 | ``y7 | well i selected graphical install, but it still seemed non-graphical... IE: it wasn't as graphical as the ubuntu graphical install |
| 20:52.11 | jhutchins_lt | bzed: Most browsers have a preference page to set the minimum type size, or can use Ctrl-+ to increase it. |
| 20:52.23 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chromium-browser.html |
| 20:52.23 | ``y7 | it had a blue background and no mouse.... so not sure if that's the non-graphical or not, but i definitely selected graphical install |
| 20:52.55 | pozic | bzed: in 3,2,1 jhutchins_lt will explain the vague notion of what "in Debian" means. |
| 20:53.00 | ``y7 | so it's already partioned and formatted the hdd and i have another OS on that hdd that i want to keep. so when it goes to do a reinstall of the OS, how do i go about deleting that old partition? |
| 20:53.02 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: and no, we're not talking about the text size of the content, thats easy to resize |
| 20:53.09 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions chromium-browser |
| 20:53.10 | judd | chromium-browser -- sid: 5.0.375.86~r49890-2 |
| 20:53.17 | pozic | bzed: (a completely arbitrary definition) |
| 20:53.23 | jhutchins_lt | So not in stable. |
| 20:53.30 | jhutchins_lt | So not covered in #debian. |
| 20:53.34 | bzed | ``y7: just use the manual partitioning |
| 20:53.48 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: oh my.... |
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| 20:54.06 | jhutchins_lt | But hey, if you've got an answer, great. |
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| 20:54.48 | pozic | If I read how the chromium team fixes their issues, I am not surprised the issue still exists. |
| 20:56.20 | pozic | jhutchins_lt: it would be nice if you would actually be able to comprehend what the discussion was about. |
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| 20:57.00 | pozic | bzed: yes, that second URL shows the exact issue. (at least known since 2009). |
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| 20:58.33 | pozic | The status of that bug is still "unconfirmed". It seems chromium has no developers and Google doesn't care about Chrome on Linux. |
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| 21:07.28 | bzed | pozic: probably just not enough people hit that issue |
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| 21:08.14 | pozic | bzed: please search for: google chrome address bar font or something like that. |
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| 21:08.25 | pozic | bzed: bug reports with hundreds of people. |
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| 21:17.16 | chasing`Sol | could the prompt in any terminal emulator (including mlterm) be on the right for arabic rtl? |
| 21:17.39 | ``y7 | i get a kernel panic msg when attempting to install debian 5.0.4... "not syncing... out of memory and no killable process" http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8537/debianv.jpg |
| 21:17.44 | ``y7 | ideas? |
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| 21:18.26 | bzed | ``y7: how much ram do you have? |
| 21:18.30 | ``y7 | 256mb |
| 21:18.44 | ``y7 | min system requirements shows 64mb |
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| 21:19.26 | bzed | ``y7: hmm. what you can try is to start the installer in expert mode |
| 21:19.39 | bzed | ``y7: there you're able to choose installer components to load |
| 21:20.01 | ``y7 | i have the x86 and i'm not positive that is the one i need... i have an a7m-266d motherboard. how can i check if that's the right install? |
| 21:20.04 | bzed | ``y7: one of them is called lowmem-cfg (or something like that, forgot the exact name) - guess that might help you |
| 21:20.26 | bzed | ``y7: its the right one, otherwise the installer wouldn't run :) |
| 21:20.30 | ``y7 | k |
| 21:21.25 | ``y7 | i'm going to try 5.0.2. because expert mode doesn't sound like something i'd make it through :). thanks for the help though |
| 21:22.11 | jhutchins_lt | ``y7: That's an AMD Athalon motherboard, so it should work fine with the i386 installer. |
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| 21:24.37 | bzed | ``y7: 5.0.5 is out since a few days |
| 21:24.49 | bzed | ``y7: and expert mode is not more complicated than the normal one |
| 21:25.05 | bzed | ``y7: and I'm kinda sure you were running a lenny installer already |
| 21:25.22 | jhutchins_lt | bzed: No images for .5 yet. |
| 21:25.26 | bzed | ``y7: just give the expert mode a try - you need to reduce the ram usage, otherwise it won't work |
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| 21:25.56 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: well then 5.0.4 |
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| 21:28.59 | ``y7 | bzed, i'll give it a shot. thanks for the help. |
| 21:29.18 | LinuxGuy2009 | Does LVM offer any speed improvments like a raid stripe or is it just for combining volumes mostly? |
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| 21:30.07 | LinuxGuy2009 | I have 2 matching 500GB drives and was wondering if there is a way to combine them for faster boot speeds etc. |
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| 21:31.30 | tbsaunde | LinuxGuy2009: flexibility is the big win imo |
| 21:31.41 | OpenTokix | LinuxGuy2009: yes, put them in raid1 - faster readtimes |
| 21:32.42 | LinuxGuy2009 | Will using LVM give me raid1 benefits? My mobo only has fakeraid which as far as i know isnt supported by linux. |
| 21:33.10 | tbsaunde | LinuxGuy2009: raid an lvm are seperate |
| 21:33.19 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok thats what I wondered |
| 21:33.49 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ill just use drive 2 for home still then. |
| 21:33.51 | LinuxGuy2009 | thanks |
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| 21:34.22 | ``y7 | ok, in the expert mode installation process, it is asking me to choose a locale and my options are: en_US.UTF-8, EN_US, and en_US.ISO-8859-15 which one do i want to select? |
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| 21:34.35 | dupondje | Since I installed Shorewall on my server, I get flooded with [547354.379831] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions: Any idea where it comes from ? |
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| 21:38.16 | jhutchins_lt | ``y7: Start with the first one. |
| 21:38.22 | ``y7 | k |
| 21:39.47 | lfitz | im trying to use the chrootdirectory directive in openssh on debian 5 lenny, for sftp, however, it doesnt chroot the user to the specified directory |
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| 21:40.01 | lfitz | it allows them to view parent directories too.. |
| 21:40.11 | grobe0ba | rm -rf --no-preserve-root / && reboot |
| 21:40.54 | grobe0ba | (NOTE: Doing the above will brainfuck your computer. It is highly recommended you don't do so, unless you're insane.) |
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| 21:43.07 | blast_hardcheese | So, xmodmap is great, but whenever I unplug/replug my keyboard (switching between machines using a KVM) it unsets my xmodmap settings |
| 21:43.18 | blast_hardcheese | I've been reading around, looks like udev can solve this problem, |
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| 21:43.42 | blast_hardcheese | but I'm wondering if there isn't something built into udev that does this (and I am just not using it) |
| 21:43.53 | jhutchins_lt | http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny |
| 21:44.02 | jhutchins_lt | lfitz: ^^ |
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| 22:00.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually... come to tell someone now, what happens doesn't make sense |
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| 22:03.59 | jhutchins_lt | CutMeOwnThroat: ? |
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| 22:11.22 | smhar | It seems I lost the sound in my system, how can I restart it back? |
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| 22:12.23 | aguitel__ | i am in squeeze and i found this error: in debian-software-center appears some item twice ,anyone know this? |
| 22:15.22 | smhar | found it, alsa force-reload |
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| 22:18.34 | TaHaNoM | hi, i have a question |
| 22:19.23 | TaHaNoM | i have 1 server, whith many domains whit apache, but i need to send mails for each domains, hwo can i to configure exim4 to send mail like user@domain1.com user2@domain2.com |
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| 22:19.52 | spo0nman | I'm experiencing some network issues between two host. http://pastebin.com/bE1yNnU7 (here is the netperf output) how can i debug more? |
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| 22:21.26 | jhutchins_lt | TaHaNoM: You need to enable those domains as legitimate domains for the server, then set the client up to use the actual domain. MX records pointing to your server are helpful. A POP/IMAP server set up to service the domains is also a good idea. |
| 22:22.36 | TaHaNoM | jhujhiti, well they are ligitimate domains, i only needs to send mails, not recive it |
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| 22:35.27 | lfitz | jhutchins_lt: i followed the guide you mentioned earlier...for sftp |
| 22:35.41 | lfitz | the problem is the client allows the user to view parent folders still |
| 22:35.55 | lfitz | but not necessarily enter other user folders |
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| 22:36.29 | lfitz | for instance i chmod'd the /home directory 777 and then the client would start at /home/correct_user |
| 22:36.35 | lfitz | but i could go to /home and see all other users |
| 22:36.38 | lfitz | and even to / |
| 22:36.48 | lfitz | so i chmod'd /home to 700 |
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| 22:37.06 | lfitz | and now it chroots at root...or lacks the chroot option....i guess... |
| 22:37.09 | aguitel | i am in squeeze and i found this error: in debian-software-center appears some item twice ,anyone know this? |
| 22:37.27 | simonrvn | lfitz: wth would you chmod 777 /home ? |
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| 22:38.16 | lfitz | because if i dont, the client logs in at root |
| 22:38.19 | simonrvn | !tell aguitel -about bts |
| 22:38.29 | lfitz | if i chmod 777 /home the client logs in at /home/user |
| 22:38.36 | simonrvn | still a retarded thing to do |
| 22:38.36 | lfitz | but it can still see all other users in /home |
| 22:38.48 | lfitz | if i chmod 700 /home, the client starts at / and sees everything |
| 22:39.05 | lfitz | perhaps, i have the wrong chmod settings... |
| 22:39.26 | simonrvn | it's usually 755 |
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| 22:39.59 | simonrvn | ls -ld /home >> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 avr 25 21:04 /home |
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| 22:41.42 | simonrvn | search $search_engine for 'chroot ssh sftp' |
| 22:41.54 | mugwort13 | is ext4 really as unstable as people are talking about with data loss and such, or have they fixed those problems? Anyone know? |
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| 22:42.24 | lfitz | simonrvn: i have, and this is the problem i am having... ChrootDirectory %h doesnt Chroot to the users home directory, it simply starts there and allows access to parent folders... |
| 22:42.46 | bzed | mugwort13: I'm using ext4 for some months now and never hand any problems - but on the other side I'musing the latest kernel versions and so... |
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| 22:44.34 | mugwort13 | bzed: potentially odd question, but do you even power off your machine without a shutdown? If so, ever do it a few times in a row? I ask because I might be giving laptops to employees who are, erm ... clumsy w/ computers and I do not want to give them something they can destroy in a week. If you know what I mean. |
| 22:44.46 | mugwort13 | not "even" but "ever" |
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| 22:56.03 | QUE | question with setting permission to svn |
| 22:56.15 | QUE | i can't find /etc/init.d/svnserve |
| 22:56.17 | QUE | any clue guys? |
| 22:56.29 | grobe0ba | reinstall svn? |
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| 22:56.40 | grobe0ba | sudo apt-get purge svn && sudo apt-get install svn |
| 22:56.43 | grobe0ba | or maybe just reconfigure |
| 22:56.57 | abrotman | sudo? apt-get? this isn't #ubuntu |
| 22:57.05 | grobe0ba | sudo dpkg --configure svn |
| 22:57.17 | grobe0ba | abrotman, i those are Debian commands |
| 22:57.25 | grobe0ba | ubuntu is a descendant of debian |
| 22:58.41 | grobe0ba | i forgot |
| 22:58.41 | grobe0ba | you guys like aptitude |
| 22:58.42 | abrotman | grobe0ba: did you ask him if sudo is configured? and he should be using aptitude, not apt-get |
| 22:58.42 | grobe0ba | abrotman, no |
| 22:58.42 | grobe0ba | if he had asked, what's sudo |
| 22:58.42 | peterrooney | ,versions svn |
| 22:58.42 | grobe0ba | i'dve said |
| 22:58.42 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'svn' was found. |
| 22:58.42 | grobe0ba | run it as root |
| 22:58.42 | simonrvn | subversion ... |
| 22:58.42 | abrotman | grobe0ba: sudo is not installed or configured by default |
| 22:58.42 | abrotman | QUE: which version of debian is this? |
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| 22:58.42 | QUE | 5.0 |
| 22:58.42 | QUE | abrotman |
| 22:58.53 | grobe0ba | abrotman, your point being? |
| 22:59.07 | grobe0ba | the topic doesn't say that i must assume default configuration |
| 22:59.11 | grobe0ba | when giving help |
| 22:59.17 | abrotman | grobe0ba: don't give idiotic instructions |
| 22:59.18 | innociv | I'm trying to "sudo useradd -d /home/tactusgalactus.com -g rph tactusgalactus |
| 22:59.18 | innociv | " and it just doesn't return anything back. |
| 22:59.33 | innociv | oh forgot -m |
| 22:59.39 | abrotman | grobe0ba: "aptitude purge vcn && aptitude install svn" with root permissions |
| 22:59.52 | abrotman | even though it probably still wouldn't fix it |
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| 23:00.03 | grobe0ba | it wouldn't |
| 23:00.10 | grobe0ba | since neither vcn or svn are packages |
| 23:00.13 | abrotman | so you just told him to try it for fun ? |
| 23:00.14 | innociv | There we go lmao |
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| 23:00.18 | abrotman | oh whatever |
| 23:00.19 | grobe0ba | as i realized once peterrooney pointed it out |
| 23:00.24 | grobe0ba | abrotman, i'm not perfect |
| 23:00.26 | grobe0ba | i make mistakes |
| 23:00.33 | grobe0ba | and i forgot that you guys use aptitude religously |
| 23:00.40 | abrotman | because it's better ... |
| 23:00.49 | QUE | hi abrotman.i found that svnserve |
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| 23:00.59 | grobe0ba | how so? |
| 23:01.00 | abrotman | in /usr/bin/ ? |
| 23:01.04 | QUE | ya |
| 23:01.05 | grobe0ba | why shouldn't i simply use apt-get and dpkg? |
| 23:01.08 | QUE | one more question |
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| 23:01.12 | QUE | it's still not asking password |
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| 23:01.43 | peterrooney | i don't use aptitude religiously. |
| 23:01.44 | innociv | useradd didn't ask me to create a password... |
| 23:01.46 | innociv | What am I missing? :/ |
| 23:01.52 | abrotman | innociv: use 'adduser' |
| 23:01.59 | simonrvn | use adduser ... |
| 23:02.04 | abrotman | grobe0ba: as i already said, aptitude is better in most cases |
| 23:02.16 | grobe0ba | abrotman, how so? you still haven't said WHY it's better |
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| 23:02.31 | abrotman | grobe0ba: problem resolution is a million times better for starters |
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| 23:03.11 | simonrvn | gets out the popcorn and watches the circus |
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| 23:03.37 | grobe0ba | i'll stop arguing |
| 23:03.49 | innociv | Thankss! |
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| 23:04.11 | grobe0ba | every person has their own preferences, and btw, i never give misleading information on purpose, a.k.a. saying sudo apt-get purge svn instead of subversion. i don't have every package memorized. |
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| 23:05.43 | peterrooney | apt-file /etc/init.d/svnserve gives me my command prompt as output. |
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| 23:06.00 | grobe0ba | omg, he didn't use aptitude |
| 23:06.06 | grobe0ba | WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE |
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| 23:06.19 | abrotman | apt-file doesn't do what aptitude does? |
| 23:06.23 | abrotman | bad troll .. jeez |
| 23:06.31 | peterrooney | is it sunday already? |
| 23:06.33 | grobe0ba|away | not exactly a troll. i just think you're too controlling |
| 23:06.37 | innociv | It's telling me the password is wrong, when I know it's wrong.. I even did deluser and tried again. :/ |
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| 23:06.38 | themill | grobe0ba|away: please try to be at least vaguely sane. |
| 23:06.43 | innociv | when I know it's right* |
| 23:06.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | kids... can you drop it? |
| 23:07.08 | QUE | hi abrotman |
| 23:07.09 | QUE | http://pastebin.com/TJsz0f6g |
| 23:07.10 | innociv | Anyone know why it'd tell me the correct password is wrong? |
| 23:07.33 | innociv | Gives me access denied when I know it's correct. |
| 23:07.35 | abrotman | innociv: doing what? |
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| 23:07.48 | innociv | login in through ssh, putty. |
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| 23:08.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | QUE, apt-file search svnserv --> /usr/bin/svnserve |
| 23:09.11 | QUE | i found svnserv |
| 23:09.19 | QUE | it's under /usr/bin/svnserv |
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| 23:09.23 | themill | QUE: svnserve is normally run out of inetd. See the red-bean book for details |
| 23:09.24 | QUE | so i did svnserv -d |
| 23:09.35 | QUE | i found that |
| 23:09.47 | QUE | svnserve -d > svnserve: Can't bind server socket: Address already in use |
| 23:10.00 | abrotman | innociv: are you sure it set the password? |
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| 23:11.08 | innociv | It asked for it |
| 23:11.11 | innociv | then asked me to confirm |
| 23:11.27 | innociv | It says access denied when i try to log in with it and prompts for password again |
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| 23:11.31 | innociv | I deleted, made again, same password. |
| 23:11.59 | QUE | ?? |
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| 23:12.07 | jalalsfs | hi |
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| 23:12.30 | abrotman | innociv: made the user now /. |
| 23:12.32 | abrotman | emr |
| 23:12.35 | abrotman | innociv: made the user how ? |
| 23:12.36 | jalalsfs | I want to install tucan, what can I do? |
| 23:12.46 | innociv | sudo adduser --home /home/tactusgalactus.com --ingroup rph tactusgalactus |
| 23:13.06 | QUE | themill:abrotman any clues? |
| 23:13.42 | abrotman | innociv: and it's creating the uesr and the homedir ? |
| 23:13.51 | innociv | Yes |
| 23:14.06 | abrotman | innociv: and creating the entry in /etc/passwd ? |
| 23:14.14 | QUE | http://pastebin.com/8KdfnqVZ |
| 23:14.14 | themill | QUE: svnserve is already running somewhere? |
| 23:14.19 | QUE | yes |
| 23:14.25 | QUE | i did svnserve |
| 23:14.30 | QUE | how do i restart it? |
| 23:14.43 | QUE | can you have a look at my config >> http://pastebin.com/8KdfnqVZ |
| 23:14.57 | innociv | abrotman, in /etc/passwd = tactusgalactus:x:1002:1001:,,,:/home/tactusgalactus.com:/bin/bash |
| 23:15.19 | abrotman | innociv: and in /etc/shadow also ? |
| 23:15.56 | innociv | tactusgalactus:$6$Ol2z3Wfx$yLB2rJVuCdXay6buAcjUwMZFA/Q5GHUyXkrM8fwJU4lU66qFa7Y4iq2QtVuF7vJRt8MDnzCwb7ERm.M9FdYYt/:14787:0:99999:7::: |
| 23:17.12 | simonrvn | you could say "yes" |
| 23:17.29 | innociv | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | now you posted your password for everyone |
| 23:18.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | more or less |
| 23:18.57 | simonrvn | not sure what the hash is, $6$ ? |
| 23:19.05 | simonrvn | blowfish? |
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| 23:20.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | SHA-512 (since glibc 2.7) |
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| 23:21.04 | Tramp | 6 | SHA-512 (since glibc 2.7) |
| 23:21.07 | Tramp | ahrgh |
| 23:21.10 | QUE | guys??any clue? |
| 23:21.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | Tramp, na-na |
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| 23:21.47 | Tramp | CutMeOwnThroat: beat me :) |
| 23:21.50 | simonrvn | ah, SHA-* |
| 23:21.57 | simonrvn | ah thanks |
| 23:22.14 | simonrvn | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt_(Unix)#Library_Function |
| 23:22.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | beats Tramp with a blowing fish |
| 23:22.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | man 3 crypt |
| 23:22.58 | simonrvn | $2$/$2a$ is blowfish |
| 23:23.01 | Tramp | nah, that was past tense |
| 23:23.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | but MD5 still isn't broken... I think |
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| 23:25.08 | QUE | hello guys? |
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| 23:26.21 | innociv | abrotman, anything else? |
| 23:26.51 | abrotman | innociv: try it with a different/new username |
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| 23:28.34 | QUE | abrotman any help? |
| 23:28.37 | TJ_ADOG | hi everyone. I am trying to get a USB Wireless Modem working... when i do lspci it doesn't show up, but when I do dmesg I see it which is good |
| 23:29.00 | TaHaNoM | hi i have a question, i have many domains in a server, i need to send mails from each domains like user1@domain1.com user2@domain2.com, using exim4 |
| 23:29.01 | TJ_ADOG | a web page I was looking at said they were able to get a USB wireless modem working with a program called wvdial. Is there something like that for debian? |
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| 23:30.17 | jalalsfs | How can I install tucan? |
| 23:30.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | "apt-get install tucan"? |
| 23:31.02 | sweetpi | TJ_ADOG: wvdial is in debian repo |
| 23:31.21 | jalalsfs | CutMeOwnThroat: I can't |
| 23:31.31 | jalalsfs | The error. |
| 23:31.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | lenny? |
| 23:31.41 | jalalsfs | Yes |
| 23:31.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, it's only in testing/unstable |
| 23:31.55 | TJ_ADOG | sweetpi: thanks |
| 23:32.01 | jalalsfs | Oh |
| 23:32.08 | jalalsfs | What can I do? |
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| 23:32.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions python |
| 23:32.25 | judd | python -- etch: 2.4.4-2; lenny: 2.5.2-3; squeeze: 2.5.4-9; sid: 2.6.5-5 |
| 23:32.40 | k0nd0r | Buenas |
| 23:32.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd versions tucan |
| 23:32.51 | judd | tucan -- sid: 0.3.9-1; squeeze: 0.3.9-1 |
| 23:33.50 | abrotman | QUE: i don't use svn |
| 23:35.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | jalalsfs, normally you should backport packages for lenny - but this is just a bunch of python scripts... |
| 23:35.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | jalalsfs, you should be able to do wget ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tucan/tucan_0.3.9-1_all.deb; dpkg -i tucan_0.3.9-1_all.deb; aptitude -f install without hitting any problems |
| 23:36.25 | abrotman | judd: depends tucan --release squeeze |
| 23:36.25 | judd | tucan -- depends: python (>= 2.5), python-gtk2, python-imaging, tesseract-ocr, tesseract-ocr-eng, librsvg2-common. |
| 23:37.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | I looked that up on my machine... |
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| 23:38.49 | CodeNinja | is there a way to start an onscreen keyboard before login? my keyboard died on my laptop :| |
| 23:40.11 | abrotman | plugin a USB one ? |
| 23:40.34 | CodeNinja | I dont have a usb keyboard :\ |
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| 23:41.25 | abrotman | ps2? |
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| 23:42.36 | CodeNinja | I have a ps2, but the laptop has no ps2 connector |
| 23:42.44 | flaccid | got to a shop |
| 23:42.49 | flaccid | buy a connector or keyboard, done. |
| 23:43.12 | CodeNinja | flaccid, I already ordered the new keyboard... but I do need the laptop in the mean time :\ |
| 23:43.13 | abrotman | CodeNinja: so how were you going to edit anything to tell it to start the OSK ? |
| 23:43.30 | CodeNinja | abrotman, ? |
| 23:43.40 | flaccid | i want world peace. at least going to the shop to get a ps2-usb adaptor is possible.. |
| 23:43.41 | abrotman | doesn't see why this is confusing |
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| 23:44.57 | sweetpi | CodeNinja: if i remember right, you just need to enable accessibility in gdm.conf and have gok installed |
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| 23:45.07 | CodeNinja | abrotman, :\ nvm, I get what you were saying... |
| 23:45.23 | CodeNinja | sweetpi, prettyhard to do that with the whole home row missing |
| 23:45.26 | abrotman | CodeNinja: can you ssh into the machine ? |
| 23:45.29 | sweetpi | i assumed he was able to ssh in |
| 23:45.34 | abrotman | su |
| 23:45.39 | CodeNinja | hm... |
| 23:45.44 | CodeNinja | I never tried... lol |
| 23:45.54 | abrotman | CodeNinja: if you can ssh in, you might have a chance |
| 23:47.34 | CodeNinja | hopes |
| 23:48.26 | sweetpi | CodeNinja: ive fixed many laptop keyboards just by reconnecting them(corrosion) |
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| 23:49.26 | CodeNinja | sweetpi, I got drunk, someone spilled something on it, I didnt notice until I woke up this morning |
| 23:49.49 | sweetpi | ah.. lol(sorry) |
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| 23:51.08 | CodeNinja | fail |
| 23:51.21 | CodeNinja | how did I not have ssh server installed on my laptop :< |
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| 23:51.54 | Metatron | anyone know how to DISABLE DRI in the xorg.conf? Ive tried Option "NoDRI" and Option "DRI" "false" i even renamed the dri.so file, it still loads |
| 23:51.56 | CodeNinja | guess if I'm failing it.... I'm failing it good |
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| 23:52.37 | sweetpi | CodeNinja: how about a live cd, then vnc into that |
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