| 00:00.15 | jordanm | Schuenemann: if you have access to the source package, add that to the depends in the debian/control file and send them a patch |
| 00:00.27 | Schuenemann | jordanm, I have that installed (it's squeeze btw) |
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| 00:00.58 | Schuenemann | ii libgtk2.0-0 2.20.1-1 |
| 00:01.16 | loopidity | I have a used D-link Internet wireless usb drive, but lsusb says no firmware - can it be reinstalled? |
| 00:01.46 | jordanm | Schuenemann: did the .deb come from debian or a 3rd party? |
| 00:02.09 | Schuenemann | jordanm, 3rd party |
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| 00:03.22 | jordanm | Schuenemann: was it intended for debian testing? |
| 00:04.12 | Schuenemann | jordanm, I don't know exactly, it's been a while since I got it. I had it working with lenny IIRC |
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| 00:04.54 | Schuenemann | jordanm, but control file says "libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.0)". According to dpkg I have 2.20.-1-1! |
| 00:04.58 | jordanm | ,file libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 --release squeeze |
| 00:05.01 | judd | libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in squeeze/i386: libgtk2.0-0: usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 |
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| 00:05.46 | jordanm | Schuenemann: really not sure, I have been learning this C and shared object stuff only as of recently |
| 00:06.05 | jordanm | I am interested in hearing an explination of how that is not linked properly |
| 00:06.10 | jordanm | s/how/why/ |
| 00:06.28 | Schuenemann | yeah... |
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| 00:08.39 | Schuenemann | jordanm, what other emulator I could use? Didn't find any in the repos |
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| 00:10.48 | jordanm | Schuenemann: zsnes :) |
| 00:11.04 | Schuenemann | jordanm, but that's for snes, not mega drive heh |
| 00:11.45 | jordanm | Schuenemann: yeah, I was never a sega fan |
| 00:12.14 | Schuenemann | debian package maintainers don't see to be also |
| 00:12.52 | craigevil | dgen - Sega Genesis/MegaDrive emulator |
| 00:12.58 | jordanm | Schuenemann: if there is not one already, you can file a RFP (request for packaging) bug for gens |
| 00:13.41 | Schuenemann | craigevil, It seems there isn't that for squeeze. IIRC, dgen was very limited anyway |
| 00:13.46 | jordanm | maintainer is Debian QA Group ?? |
| 00:13.54 | jordanm | ,versions dgen |
| 00:13.56 | judd | dgen -- etch/non-free: 1.23-9; lenny/non-free: 1.23-10; sid/non-free: 1.23-10; squeeze/non-free: 1.23-10 |
| 00:14.28 | jordanm | Schuenemann: maybe you don't have non-free enabled |
| 00:14.40 | craigevil | what about xmess-x |
| 00:14.45 | Schuenemann | deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 00:14.48 | Schuenemann | this? |
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| 00:16.03 | jordanm | yep, as long as you updated after adding non-free |
| 00:16.49 | Schuenemann | I'll check after I install xmess |
| 00:17.38 | Schuenemann | is it actually difficult to generate that package? Perhaps I could solve that RFP myself |
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| 00:18.10 | Schuenemann | oh, I surely have non-free enabled: Get:2 http://ftp.br.debian.org squeeze/non-free xmess-sdl 0.106-3.1 [4,101kB] |
| 00:19.18 | jordanm | creating packages difficulty varies, depeneding on the package its build-system. getting a sponsership is what I had always viewed as the most difficult task |
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| 00:21.00 | jordanm | Schuenemann: and the proc would go like: RFP bug -> ITP (intent to package) bug. the initial package closes the ITP |
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| 00:21.17 | jordanm | !tell Schuenemann about wnpp |
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| 00:21.59 | Schuenemann | it seems there is already a RFP for that. Let me see |
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| 00:22.53 | Schuenemann | there it is: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533715 |
| 00:23.53 | jordanm | Schuenemann: I would say 1 year is a bit excessive for "looking into licensing issues". |
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| 00:24.11 | jordanm | non-free packages will be especially hard to find sponsership for |
| 00:24.52 | Schuenemann | actually he said that on Feb. Anyway 5 months is a lot |
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| 00:27.10 | geekilized | i keep getting this error whenever i try to enable compiz : "WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXDestroyPixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported! This is an application bug! |
| 00:27.10 | geekilized | " |
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| 00:30.01 | jordanm | geekilized: what version of debian are you running? |
| 00:30.19 | jordanm | Schuenemann: from what I understand 1mo or so is reasonable time to give them a poke |
| 00:30.30 | geekilized | sid, i had same error on squeeze also |
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| 00:32.09 | jordanm | !tell geekilized about sid |
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| 00:34.38 | Schuenemann | jordanm, lol I downloaded another emulator (Kega Fusion) and it complained about the same lib |
| 00:36.38 | jordanm | Schuenemann: search for that lib again, with find, not locate |
| 00:36.58 | jordanm | Schuenemann: locate stores a db, which could be out of sync |
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| 00:37.38 | mainstreet | Is debian's mirror down? |
| 00:38.00 | Schuenemann | find: `libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0': No such file or directory |
| 00:38.37 | jordanm | mainstreet: debian has lots of mirrors |
| 00:38.52 | mainstreet | Specifically, security.debian.org |
| 00:39.01 | mainstreet | appears to be frozen or something :/ |
| 00:39.05 | jordanm | ,file libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 --release squeeze |
| 00:39.09 | judd | libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in squeeze/i386: libgtk2.0-0: usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 |
| 00:39.17 | Schuenemann | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Jun 13 22:25 /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1 |
| 00:39.32 | jordanm | mainstreet: stop and try again, should be round-robin dns on that one |
| 00:40.15 | jordanm | ,file libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1 --release squeeze |
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| 00:40.21 | judd | libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1 in squeeze/i386: libgtk2.0-0-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1; libgtk2.0-0: usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1 |
| 00:40.59 | jordanm | Schuenemann: it might not work with the new gtk |
| 00:41.25 | jordanm | Schuenemann: but that would not be the error i expect |
| 00:41.35 | Schuenemann | jordanm, weird is that control file from the deb says >= 2.4 |
| 00:42.56 | mainstreet | Mooo. Seems like it's actually an ipv6 issue. Sigh. |
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| 00:49.17 | JairunCaloth | When you chroot inside a bash script. The script waits there until you exit the chroot right? |
| 00:50.31 | darkski3z | depends |
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| 00:50.42 | darkski3z | add an & to background it |
| 00:50.53 | darkski3z | also chroot doesnt have to start a shell |
| 00:50.58 | JairunCaloth | hrm. that won't do me much good |
| 00:51.10 | darkski3z | chroot /path /usr/bin/proggy |
| 00:51.12 | JairunCaloth | I need to execute more script inside the chroot |
| 00:51.29 | JairunCaloth | I guess I could break it into two scripts and call the second when I chroot |
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| 00:51.42 | darkski3z | best bet |
| 00:52.59 | JairunCaloth | I don't suppose I could call a function in my script |
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| 00:59.03 | nsadmin | most scripting languages have procs or fncs or both |
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| 00:59.26 | nsadmin | so if you write one, you should be able to call it |
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| 01:01.40 | _hexguy | Hi, I used update-alternatives to change the python version to 2.6 but it messed up everything (i cant install anything from aptitude that uses python), any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 01:02.08 | _hexguy | im using squeeze |
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| 01:03.22 | dondelelcaro | _hexguy: uh... the python symlink isn't managed using update-alternatives. |
| 01:03.48 | dondelelcaro | so you may have done something, but it didn't involve update-alternatives |
| 01:04.07 | Guest40827 | when I try to edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, there is nothing in the file, why? |
| 01:04.32 | dondelelcaro | Guest40827: because that's a legacy configuration file; all of the configuration is elsewhere |
| 01:04.38 | _hexguy | dondelelcaro: so if i ln -s python to the python version i want it might get fixed? |
| 01:04.53 | dondelelcaro | _hexguy: yes. |
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| 01:05.17 | dev_ | I'm having trouble with reverse-i-search.. it's not working anymore and I have no clue why?! I'm using zsh.. and it worked.. |
| 01:05.18 | Guest40827 | dondelelcaro, would you happen to know in which file the settings are located? |
| 01:05.19 | dondelelcaro | _hexguy: or better, if you just reinstall python-minimal, that'll happen too |
| 01:05.32 | dondelelcaro | Guest40827: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and various other configuration files in /etc/apache2 |
| 01:05.36 | dondelelcaro | Guest40827: what are you trying to change? |
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| 01:06.06 | _hexguy | dondelelcaro: worked like a charm, thank you |
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| 01:06.14 | Guest40827 | dondelelcaro, the default directory for the html pages for my website and the name of the default page |
| 01:06.40 | dondelelcaro | Guest40827: edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
| 01:06.44 | _hexguy | dondelelcaro: what is update-alternatives for then? |
| 01:06.57 | dondelelcaro | _hexguy: for updating things which actually have an alternative |
| 01:07.22 | dondelelcaro | _hexguy: ls /etc/alternatives/ if you want to see what those are |
| 01:07.32 | _hexguy | dondelelcaro: thank you ^^ |
| 01:07.54 | Guest40827 | dondelelcaro, well, it seems like the settings are available in apache2.conf, but I'll check the sites-available/default directory as well |
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| 01:08.33 | dev_ | nevermind.. I found it.. had vi keybinding in my .zshrc instead of emacs.. sorry! |
| 01:09.03 | dondelelcaro | Guest40827: there are configurations in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf which apply to the entire server; those for a single site (like the site directory and the index page) are in sites-available which are then symlinked into sites-enabled |
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| 01:11.32 | Guest40827 | dondelelcaro, let me go ahead and try to figure it out, much simpler in Windows :P |
| 01:12.08 | Schuenemann | dgen isn't available for 64 bits, but I converted the packages from debian.org. It's a lot simpler than Gens/GS and others, though =/ |
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| 01:13.13 | dondelelcaro | Schuenemann: it actually works (or I think I managed to get it working at one point) |
| 01:13.59 | Schuenemann | yeah, it works... but no GUI for example. I'm trying to figure out how to configure input controls |
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| 01:26.51 | SirTopHat | I installed proftpd. If I SSH into the PC with it and do ftp localhost and then try to do an ls, I get 'ftp: bind: Address already in use |
| 01:26.51 | SirTopHat | '. I've looked on google for solutions, tried resetting the router, nothing. I've made sure that there's no IP or port conflic on the router. |
| 01:26.59 | skrewler | where are the torrents for debian squeeze netinst? i cant find links for them anywhere |
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| 01:27.16 | SirTopHat | I've tried the proftpd channel, it's dead. |
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| 01:32.08 | JairunCaloth | huh... So I want to echo something to the middle of a file... |
| 01:32.31 | SirTopHat | well now it's only doing it if I try to FTP into the internet IP. |
| 01:32.52 | JairunCaloth | it's static though. I guess I should just make the file and cp it to where I need it. |
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| 01:38.21 | SirTopHat | update-inetd --disable |
| 01:38.26 | SirTopHat | "too few arguments!" |
| 01:38.30 | SirTopHat | god shit |
| 01:38.58 | SirTopHat | nevermind |
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| 01:55.14 | Guest40827 | how do i edit the directoryindex for apache? |
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| 01:56.17 | Tired | you don't |
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| 01:58.58 | Guest40827 | Tired, then how do you specify which default page is opened when someone connects to your server? |
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| 02:00.37 | dvs | Guest40827: name it index.html? |
| 02:01.20 | Guest40827 | dvs, yeah, I guess that would work, but let's say its a php file or I want it to have another name, don't tell me it's impossible. |
| 02:01.51 | peppe | Guest40827: you configure your webserver to serve certain pages |
| 02:03.06 | Guest40827 | peppe, yeah, in Windows it's in the httpd.conf file, but can't seem to find it in any files in debian |
| 02:03.16 | peppe | what's your web server? |
| 02:03.26 | Tired | Guest40827, do you think, running "find /etc/apache* -type f -exec grep -il index.html '{}' +" might provide a clue? |
| 02:03.53 | peppe | or just googling |
| 02:04.11 | peppe | I'm sure there are tons of results pointing you at the DirectoryIndex apace directive (mod_dir) |
| 02:04.15 | peppe | *apache |
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| 02:04.32 | dvs | Guest40827: /etc/apache2/mods-available/dir.conf |
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| 02:04.48 | Guest40827 | Tired, I'll try it thanks, I'm pretty new with linux, I tried grep indexdirectory before, but it kept on searching for like over 2 minutes so i stopped it |
| 02:04.59 | Tired | Guest40827, anyway, I think you're better off in #httpd |
| 02:05.22 | Tired | Guest40827, how did you grep that? |
| 02:05.29 | peppe | grep won't show you anything if that directive is missing ... read the apache docs instead |
| 02:05.32 | Guest40827 | dvs, yeah I just found it too with the grep search :) |
| 02:05.44 | peppe | learn which module you need to set up, learn how to set it up, then do it |
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| 02:06.47 | Guest40827 | Tired, I did just grep directoryindex |
| 02:08.52 | Guest40827 | ok, well it seems like it's in the mods-available and mods-enabled directories, damn, everything's everywhere |
| 02:09.18 | dvs | Guest40827: no, just mods-available |
| 02:10.03 | Guest40827 | dvs, would the mods-enabled be something else, seems like the exact same file: dir.conf is in there as well |
| 02:10.24 | dvs | Guest40827: do a "ls -l" and see |
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| 02:10.52 | kameron | is there a gnome music player that doesn't suck balls? |
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| 02:11.34 | Guest40827 | kameron, mpd? |
| 02:11.54 | sCOTTo | anyone here able to gimme a bitta help with samba? |
| 02:12.25 | kameron | mpd, eh Guest40827.. having a look now. |
| 02:12.39 | Guest40827 | dvs, i see the file in both directories, not sure of the difference ls -l just shows all the files in the directory with detailed info as to the creator and filesize |
| 02:13.10 | kameron | Guest40827, a command line music daemon? who do you think i am? |
| 02:13.12 | Guest40827 | kameron, it's a daemon that runs in the terminal though, you will also need a frontend for it |
| 02:13.48 | dvs | Guest40827: in mods-enabled ? |
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| 02:14.07 | idk | Hello, Im looking for a webtool for applications. I mean some tool that can display my progress of some software development project. I hope you got it, thanks! =) |
| 02:14.08 | Guest40827 | yes |
| 02:14.24 | Guest40827 | dvs, yes |
| 02:14.53 | dvs | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2008-09-06 17:23 dir.conf -> ../mods-available/dir.conf |
| 02:15.36 | Guest40827 | kameron, if you're looking for just a simple music player without the bs libraries and you don't want a daemon then i would recommend audacious, best you're gonna get in linux, there is no foobar2000 unfortunately |
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| 02:17.34 | Guest40827 | dvs, what image host links does this server allow for linking? |
| 02:17.38 | Guest40827 | i'll show you |
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| 02:19.55 | kameron | Guest40827, you lost me on the foobar2000 part. i'm out of the loop with geek lingo. i'm going to give sonata/mpd and audacious a try here. |
| 02:19.55 | Guest40827 | dvs, http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8528/capture2tc.png |
| 02:20.28 | dvs | dunno |
| 02:20.55 | Guest40827 | kameron, foobar2000 is an app for windows for music playing, very highly regarded |
| 02:21.15 | kameron | Guest40827, ohhh is audacious an xmms replacement? i used to use this all the time several years ago. |
| 02:21.40 | kameron | Guest40827, oh that's a goofy name for an app. totally out of the windows app loop :P |
| 02:21.47 | Guest40827 | kameron, yeah, it's really similar, also similar too the old winamp, minimal one |
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| 02:22.34 | Guest40827 | kameron, you know u can get xmms2 for linux also, right? |
| 02:22.44 | Guest40827 | if you liked it before |
| 02:22.45 | kameron | is there much difference really? |
| 02:23.14 | Guest40827 | try it out, honestly, haven't run linux in about a year, running a server right now |
| 02:23.16 | kameron | i was running kde for a long time and i was using that amarok thing.. but i gave up on kde recently and i'm staying away from qt apps completely now. |
| 02:23.49 | Guest40827 | kameron, i would say give audacious a try, i remember it being like one of the only good ones |
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| 02:24.17 | Guest40827 | yeah, linux music players pretty much suck |
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| 02:24.43 | kameron | they totally do. amarok is sweet but it's a pig. |
| 02:25.07 | Guest40827 | didn't like amarok at all, gave it a try on gnome when i was looking for a good app |
| 02:25.24 | vsmatck | My fav music player of all time is fubar2000 on windows. *wonders if that runs in wine* |
| 02:25.39 | vsmatck | Actually I think it's spelled foobar2000 maybe. |
| 02:25.50 | kameron | amarok combined with katapult was such a sick combo. alt+space to launch katapult.. type a song name, hit enter.. it plays. that was cool. |
| 02:25.54 | Guest40827 | vsmatck, yep, it's the best as i was just telling kameron |
| 02:26.22 | kameron | maybe mpd has some keybindings like that. |
| 02:26.46 | Guest40827 | vsmatck, yep foobar2000, it runs in wine, the scroll for sound and position of sound gets pixelly when you move it, but that's about it |
| 02:27.10 | vsmatck | Rhythmbox is real crap on lenny. Mine randomly starts.. Dunno what's up with that. |
| 02:27.19 | vsmatck | It crashes a lot for me too. |
| 02:27.20 | Guest40827 | lol |
| 02:27.44 | Guest40827 | something wrong with running a music app through wine though, don't you guys think? |
| 02:27.46 | vsmatck | should make yet another music player. |
| 02:28.08 | Guest40827 | lol can you program vsmatck ? |
| 02:28.25 | vsmatck | Well.. that's a matter of opinion.. :) |
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| 02:30.06 | Guest40827 | vsmatck, lol, make an open source app, just like foobar2000 |
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| 02:33.25 | hansin | I have done a couple recent minimal installs of Debian Squeeze. The little quality details are amazing (like Terminus16 console font by default, and a non-blinking cursor). Speaking of the non-blinking cursor (assuming that it isn't unique to my hardware) is that because Debian patched the kernel source? Or is it just me that has this? |
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| 03:20.03 | Guest40827 | is there an apache command to check who's connected to your server? |
| 03:21.20 | freeone3000 | Guest40827: tail the log |
| 03:22.31 | Guest40827 | freeone3000, do you know where the actual log is located though? |
| 03:23.06 | BergiSi | /var/log/apache2 |
| 03:23.08 | BergiSi | usually |
| 03:23.19 | BergiSi | (it's a folder) |
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| 03:24.30 | Guest40827 | BergiSi, thanks |
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| 04:01.34 | Alystair | boy did I manage to mess something up, I have an illegally named file in my home directory and I have no idea how to get rid of it |
| 04:01.42 | Alystair | ^[^[^[q^[ |
| 04:02.09 | BergiSi | rm \^\[\^\[\^\[q\^\[ |
| 04:02.56 | Alystair | no such file or directory ;[ |
| 04:03.13 | BergiSi | rm ^<press tab> |
| 04:03.14 | BergiSi | ? |
| 04:03.29 | Alystair | nope :/ |
| 04:03.35 | Alystair | not even with \^ |
| 04:03.44 | Alystair | it's taking up 12gb of space haha |
| 04:04.17 | BergiSi | out of ideas |
| 04:04.25 | peterrooney | Alystair: find . -type f -maxdepth 1 -exec rm -i {} \; |
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| 04:05.18 | peterrooney | i hate find, but sometimes it has uses. |
| 04:05.32 | Alystair | got it! |
| 04:05.48 | Alystair | ./\033\033\033q\033 :P |
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| 04:06.24 | peterrooney | Alystair: ooh, clever! now, what monstrosity created that file? |
| 04:06.45 | Alystair | dang I didn't even try cat/tail on it |
| 04:06.57 | Alystair | we will never know, probably VMware Tools or me pounding on the keyboard |
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| 04:09.01 | peterrooney | Alystair: makes sense, if you use vim regularly |
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| 04:11.21 | Alystair | I'm only recently getting into linux proper, I've always mucked around in the shell but never really had the true linux experience... now I need to find some cool things to add into my .bash_profile, already decked out ls :p |
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| 04:15.55 | peterrooney | Alystair: GREP_COLORS |
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| 04:20.35 | macrobat | Alystair: not using ~/.bashrc? |
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| 04:22.30 | Alystair | isn't rc for non-terminal stuff? |
| 04:23.19 | macrobat | one cool thing. feed it directories or dont. function cx() { if [[ $# -eq 0 ]] ; then popd ; ls -CF ; else pushd "$@" ; ls -CF ; fi ;} |
| 04:24.31 | macrobat | i like colored manpages too |
| 04:24.53 | neoice | macrobat: colored manpages? |
| 04:26.00 | Bushmills | why not if (( $# )); then ... (careful, logic reversed) ? |
| 04:27.03 | macrobat | the shorter the better |
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| 04:28.57 | Alystair | why isn't there a place to globally turn color on? |
| 04:29.28 | Bushmills | there is: on your monitor |
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| 04:29.40 | macrobat | different colors for different purposes |
| 04:29.51 | Alystair | man already has some color... |
| 04:30.49 | freeone3000 | About how secure is the encrypted LVM that the debian installer offers? |
| 04:31.36 | peterrooney | Alystair: use `most' instead of more. aptitude install most ; update-alternatives --config pager |
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| 04:31.57 | Alystair | peterrooney: why use more when you can use less... |
| 04:32.05 | peterrooney | because most beats them both. |
| 04:32.08 | Alystair | awesome |
| 04:32.24 | Alystair | my favorite thing so far in Debian is apt-get and aptitude.. it's like magic |
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| 04:32.58 | relajo | what is a good backup app i was thinking about backupninja any advices? |
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| 04:33.45 | freeone3000 | I use rsync and cron. |
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| 04:34.33 | neoice | I need to fix my rsync+cron setup. |
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| 04:35.46 | relajo | can i backup a mysql instance using rsync? |
| 04:37.48 | neoice | relajo: I use a script from sourceforge for MySQL backups |
| 04:37.54 | neoice | it does daily/weekly/monthly rotations |
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| 04:38.06 | neoice | and then I rsync those (and the rest of the system) across the network to my remote backup |
| 04:38.32 | relajo | neoice, thats sounds like what i need |
| 04:39.15 | relajo | we have a tons of w2k8 servers that are going to use a backup automation app |
| 04:39.35 | neoice | relajo: automysqlbackup |
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| 04:39.48 | neoice | its just a shell-script that you can run with cron |
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| 04:40.00 | neoice | if you need to do backups from multiple servers, it might not work so well |
| 04:40.12 | relajo | so i need something that can be at some level automated and compatible with that |
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| 04:40.48 | relajo | neoice, the mysql one is the highest priority at least |
| 04:40.53 | neoice | well, SQL is mostly SQL. mysqldump might not work on MSSQL |
| 04:41.05 | neoice | you're running MySQL on your win2k8 hosts? |
| 04:41.19 | relajo | no |
| 04:43.48 | Alystair | how do I get the kernel headers from trunk? |
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| 04:45.19 | peterrooney | Alystair: aptitude install kernel-headers |
| 04:45.38 | relajo | neoice, does the script notificates the status of the backup? |
| 04:46.10 | neoice | relajo: yeah, it sends me an email about it every time it runs |
| 04:46.37 | Alystair | hrm didn't seem to need it |
| 04:46.41 | freeone3000 | Why does the "openssh-server" package depend on "x11-common"? I'd like to avoid using disk on x11 if at all possible. |
| 04:47.42 | epic_age | How do I enable access to certain devices?, for instance in order to use my hsc 750 scanner, I have to use xsane as a root user, also xsane freezes, thanks in advance |
| 04:48.48 | Alystair | Haha, aptitude's moo command is great |
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| 04:55.49 | macrobat | epic_age: maybe there is a group you can add yourself to. |
| 04:56.23 | macrobat | is there a "scanner" group? |
| 04:56.42 | craigevil | yes scanner and lp, your user should be in both |
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| 05:15.14 | karlpinc | freeone3000: Try it with aptitude -R. |
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| 05:18.36 | JairunCaloth | is there a way to tell a bash script to automaticlly exit if any one command fails without manually checking exit status of every single command? |
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| 05:19.22 | freeone3000 | Chain them together with &&. |
| 05:19.52 | freeone3000 | karlpinc: Worked, thanks. |
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| 05:32.20 | JairunCaloth | /debootstrap/debootstrap: 352: cat: not found |
| 05:33.34 | JairunCaloth | this is the command I ran |
| 05:33.35 | JairunCaloth | sudo debootstrap --arch armel --foreign testing /mnt/tmp http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
| 05:33.42 | JairunCaloth | that part finished without problem |
| 05:35.11 | JairunCaloth | when I run chroot /data/local/mnt /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage on the device, I get that error message |
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| 05:38.26 | smv | JairunCaloth, last time i used debootstrap this way, i first chrooted and only then run debotstrap --secondstage, inside the chroot. where you tring to run it from the outside? not sure that really matters but it might. though, i usually am wrong. |
| 05:38.52 | smv | s/secondstage/second-stage |
| 05:39.22 | JairunCaloth | smv: trying to do it programaticly :/ |
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| 05:40.18 | JairunCaloth | anywho, same error when I run it by hand inside the chroot |
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| 05:40.33 | JairunCaloth | ah... I bet I know what it is |
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| 05:43.03 | JairunCaloth | w00t :) PATH wasn't sane |
| 05:43.51 | JairunCaloth | Working on a script to install debian on my cell phone. :D |
| 05:45.16 | smv | so it can be run from outside of the chroot? |
| 05:46.33 | JairunCaloth | yup |
| 05:46.40 | JairunCaloth | it's running now |
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| 05:47.29 | JairunCaloth | had to export PATH since android's PATH doesn't include some of the usual suspects. |
| 05:47.35 | JairunCaloth | like /bin |
| 05:48.02 | JairunCaloth | android's bin lives at /system/bin |
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| 05:49.08 | smv | i see. still 'foreign' for me :)) |
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| 05:53.35 | JairunCaloth | I dunoo why I have the urge to install debian on my cell phone, it has a perfectly fine OS to start with :-p |
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| 05:55.53 | Alystair | wtf so now grub is in 1024x768 yet as soon as I pass it it drops back to lower resolution :( |
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| 05:59.16 | peterrooney | Alystair: check for vga=XYZ in /boot/grub/menu.list - may need to append it to your kernel line |
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| 06:00.07 | peterrooney | for example, mine is |
| 06:00.51 | peterrooney | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=UUID=<wholebunchahex> ro vga=792 |
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| 06:03.04 | Alystair | i'm apparently using grub2 |
| 06:03.27 | Alystair | I edited the resolution in /etc/defaults/grub and it changed the resolution during grub load, but as soon as it quit... back to 640x480 |
| 06:03.44 | smv | vga= is deprecated, even if is working, atleast that's what i've read. use GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1024x768 in /etc/default/grub. and also check the /etc/grub.d/00_header to have if [ "x${GRUB_GFXMODE}" = "x" ] ; then GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 ; fi instead of if [ "x${GRUB_GFXMODE}" = "x" ] ; then GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 ; fi |
| 06:04.30 | smv | this works for me in sid. not sure what you're using |
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| 06:06.20 | Alystair | ah |
| 06:06.23 | Alystair | payload :) |
| 06:06.26 | Alystair | that's probably it |
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| 06:08.48 | Alystair | smv: where do you find this out |
| 06:09.10 | smv | i guess all over the web where grub2 is involved? :)) |
| 06:10.14 | Alystair | uh oh |
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| 06:10.43 | Alystair | you broke it |
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| 06:11.17 | smv | broke what? |
| 06:11.36 | Voldenet | it |
| 06:11.41 | Alystair | blank screen now after grub |
| 06:11.50 | Voldenet | press c |
| 06:12.25 | Alystair | not even recovery mode works ;-; |
| 06:12.30 | smv | are you sure your monitor supports that resolution? |
| 06:12.51 | Alystair | yes I ran vbeinfo |
| 06:12.59 | Alystair | AND grub is running at that resolution |
| 06:13.26 | Alystair | maybe vim blew up 00_whatever |
| 06:13.32 | smv | you problably have another sort of problem then :| |
| 06:13.48 | Alystair | how do I restore that from the grub shell |
| 06:14.15 | Alystair | can I even restore it :/ |
| 06:14.46 | Voldenet | use livecd linux |
| 06:15.24 | Alystair | oh wait, it's vbetest not vbeinfo |
| 06:15.28 | Alystair | now grub died :D |
| 06:16.32 | Alystair | should have taken a snapshot of the vm, now it's all dead |
| 06:17.03 | Alystair | ah I got it working |
| 06:17.10 | smv | just boot of a live cd, mount the partitions, edit the files, chroot into /mnt/boot and run upgrade-grub |
| 06:17.19 | Alystair | nah, I managed without your silly magic |
| 06:17.24 | smv | :)) |
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| 06:37.26 | pozic | How can I make sure that an external harddisk is always mounted when it is plugged in without requiring a user to type a mount command? |
| 06:38.00 | pozic | By "always" I mean "unless explicitly umounted". |
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| 06:45.46 | karlpinc | pozic: usbmount? |
| 06:46.43 | karlpinc | pozic: fstab? |
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| 06:48.30 | pozic | karlpinc: ok, what I want is partition /dev/sda1 mounted on /media/mydir when it is available during boot identified by its UUID and when I later remove the disk and add it again I want it to be mounted to the same place again. |
| 06:48.38 | pozic | karlpinc: usbmount doesn't do that. |
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| 06:48.42 | Alystair | now needs a live cd lmao |
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| 06:50.02 | pozic | karlpinc: I am using an ntfs-3g entry in fstab to do the mounting. |
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| 06:50.43 | squigle | I am wondering how I use a debuging package with gdb in debian |
| 06:50.56 | squigle | I am more used to using source |
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| 06:51.14 | squigle | is a dbg package just meant to work? |
| 06:51.40 | pozic | squigle: the dpg packages do not contain source, right? |
| 06:51.51 | pozic | squigle: or if you want to verify that they do, grep them. |
| 06:52.01 | pozic | squigle: so, they are only useful for users. |
| 06:52.02 | squigle | pozic, no they are the symbol tables |
| 06:52.11 | pozic | squigle: right, that's what I said. |
| 06:52.26 | pozic | squigle: so, users can give you a trace, but that's it. |
| 06:52.40 | pozic | squigle: well, they can give you the core image. |
| 06:52.56 | pozic | squigle: this core image can be loaded into gbd. |
| 06:53.01 | pozic | squigle: gdb |
| 06:53.27 | pozic | squigle: I am pretty sure that you can then point gdb at the corresponding source, but I am not sure of that. |
| 06:53.39 | squigle | pozic, sure, i have a backtrace of python but the symbol tables are not being loaded by gdb |
| 06:54.00 | squigle | for modules that i have installed a dbg package for |
| 06:54.05 | pozic | squigle: what do you mean by "backtrace of python"? |
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| 06:54.26 | pozic | squigle: one of those Python exceptions or are you hacking the Python interpreter? |
| 06:54.27 | squigle | I have a back trace from a crash in python |
| 06:54.38 | squigle | a segmentation fault |
| 06:54.59 | pozic | squigle: and this segmentation fault is in Python or something you created? |
| 06:55.18 | pozic | squigle: e.g. a C extension you wrote, for example. |
| 06:55.19 | squigle | its some thing I created in python |
| 06:55.30 | squigle | no its in a python module (PyQt) |
| 06:55.35 | pozic | squigle: ok, so pure Python. |
| 06:55.44 | pozic | squigle: ok, so not Python :) |
| 06:55.50 | squigle | yeah complicated |
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| 06:56.09 | pozic | squigle: can you reproduce it every single time? |
| 06:56.16 | squigle | I can |
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| 06:57.22 | squigle | I can crash PyQt quite easily in a number of ways, but I work around it in the short term and fix the library, but I havnt worked with the dubuging extention packages before |
| 06:57.24 | pozic | squigle: ok, so you run something like gdb python RET run main.py |
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| 06:57.41 | squigle | yep |
| 06:58.03 | pozic | squigle: you can load symbol tables explicitly in gdb too. |
| 06:58.28 | pozic | squigle: I think it is the file command or something like that. |
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| 06:58.47 | squigle | pozic, gdb is quite complex , thank you for the pointer |
| 06:58.51 | squigle | let me see what i can find |
| 06:58.52 | pozic | squigle: if you have done that, it should crash and show the results in the auto language. |
| 06:59.23 | pozic | squigle: if auto is not the source language, it might be possible to convince gdb to point at the actual source. |
| 06:59.37 | pozic | squigle: an alternative is to just compile Python from source yourself. |
| 06:59.43 | pozic | squigle: that way it will work surely. |
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| 07:00.01 | squigle | i can see the debuging from the python frames but not from PyQT |
| 07:00.07 | dec3pti01 | anyone here uses exim4 ? |
| 07:00.07 | Kasreyn_ | anyone know how to partition a drive on command line only? i want to place it in a script (not for evil purposes) |
| 07:00.52 | kermit | Kasreyn_: fdisk |
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| 07:01.12 | lindi- | fdisk is not very nice for scripting but works |
| 07:01.22 | Kasreyn_ | kermit: trying that .. but can't get the script to work |
| 07:01.38 | Kasreyn_ | it has to be #!/bin/bash ? |
| 07:01.44 | climber11 | where is SWAT config file at? |
| 07:02.00 | kermit | Kasreyn_: though if its going to be the exact same partition table every time, you can just save the table and write it, without a partition tool |
| 07:02.23 | squigle | pozic, after having a 100% crash rate, I now can not crash it :) aaah fun day |
| 07:02.26 | Kasreyn_ | kermit: ok how? |
| 07:02.27 | kermit | Kasreyn_: the table is just the first 512 bytes of the device |
| 07:02.47 | Kasreyn_ | right, but in this case i want to use the available space, not a fixed size |
| 07:03.10 | kermit | fdisk will do tha |
| 07:03.11 | kermit | t |
| 07:03.23 | Kasreyn_ | yes, i'm trying fdisk :) |
| 07:03.30 | Kasreyn_ | so on the right track |
| 07:03.36 | pozic | squigle: do you see C source code lines or just function names? |
| 07:04.01 | pozic | squigle: you should also install the pyqt-dbg package (no idea whether it exists). |
| 07:04.14 | squigle | pozic, i have that installed but its not showing up |
| 07:04.28 | squigle | i am trying to load the symbols from that package manually |
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| 07:06.48 | pozic | squigle: if you do not maintain pyqt you can also just throw the problem to them. |
| 07:06.59 | pozic | squigle: if you have a workaround anyway. |
| 07:07.53 | squigle | pozic, I need the work around first :/ |
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| 07:10.44 | Afshin | Hi every body |
| 07:11.02 | Afshin | could you help me to enable syslog-ng to listen on port 514 ? |
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| 07:13.11 | HexaByte | Hi, guys, i'm missing ar command to extract .deb packages. IN what package can i find it? |
| 07:13.32 | lindi- | HexaByte: apt-file search bin/ar |
| 07:13.39 | HexaByte | tnx :-) |
| 07:13.47 | HexaByte | lindi-: tought me how to fish :-) |
| 07:14.11 | lindi- | HexaByte: also consider dpkg-deb --extract |
| 07:14.21 | HexaByte | i don't have apt-file neither :-) |
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| 07:14.54 | lindi- | that's a package you can install |
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| 07:15.09 | HexaByte | aha |
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| 07:15.24 | HexaByte | tnx, got it all |
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| 07:46.33 | brammat0r | anyone knows geany? is there a hotkey or (better) an option to make edit subwindow active (focused) after VTE execute (F5)? |
| 07:47.16 | simonrvn | check the help, i think it mentions it |
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| 08:11.56 | tbty | I know how to hold packages in aptitude, but I wonder how to check which packages are in hold in aptitude? |
| 08:12.20 | lindi- | it's some magical four letter command :) |
| 08:12.26 | lindi- | involving some "~"s |
| 08:12.36 | lindi- | very use friendly ;) |
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| 08:13.33 | tbty | what? |
| 08:13.59 | tbty | I could find anything in the man page either! could some one in here explaine or give me a link |
| 08:14.09 | Afshin | could you help me to enable syslog-ng to listen on port 514 ? |
| 08:14.56 | AmberJ | I currently have many windows that look like this: http://devio.us/~amberj/pub/screenshots/screeno.png |
| 08:15.16 | AmberJ | And, I want them to llok much better like for e.g.: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/images/screenshots_lg_hp_setup_step5.png |
| 08:15.20 | AmberJ | *look |
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| 08:15.50 | AmberJ | I'm probably missing some package something that will improve the look and feel of windows |
| 08:16.06 | AmberJ | Anyone knows what do I need to do? |
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| 08:16.58 | tbty | This is the answer to my earlier question, aptitude search ~ahold |
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| 08:17.56 | crazy2k | Hello. I'm doing ``make somefile.o`` and make says that there's nothing to be done. However, the file doesn't exist. What could be the reason? |
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| 08:19.38 | SlayerXP | crazy2k: my guess would be that there's nothing to be done. |
| 08:19.53 | crazy2k | SlayerXP: ?? |
| 08:20.03 | crazy2k | SlayerXP: But the file is not there. |
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| 08:21.05 | AmberJ | Anyone? |
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| 08:24.07 | d3x | AmberJ, are you running kde? |
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| 08:25.58 | AmberJ | d3x: No. I'm using 'dwm'. |
| 08:26.57 | d3x | mhm... the "nice" screen looks like kde :) |
| 08:27.38 | d3x | i'm not sure what toolkit this app is using, might be gtk or fltk, cause they tend to be ugly without theme |
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| 08:30.19 | AmberJ | d3x: It doesnot uses any toolkit, imo ... When I compiled it from sourrce, I only needed Xlib as dependencies |
| 08:30.38 | d3x | huh, interesting |
| 08:31.15 | d3x | btw, http://localhost:631 is a pretty nice cups interface |
| 08:33.16 | AmberJ | d3x: CUPS web interface is surely nice. But it takes a lot of effort setting up my printer from it. Therefore, I use hplip to setup my hp printer |
| 08:33.36 | AmberJ | And, that weird screeny was of 'hp-setup' from hplip |
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| 08:35.38 | AmberJ | Ok, I will try at #suckless (official channel of dwm @ oftc) then. ty :) |
| 08:35.47 | AmberJ | d3x ^ |
| 08:36.31 | d3x | AmberJ, kde has a nice printer configuration thingie, dunno about dwm |
| 08:37.40 | AmberJ | dwm doesnot have any such thing. It's very minimalistic (<2000 SLOC) |
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| 08:44.03 | d3x | AmberJ, heh, i'm working on a crm in php right now and it's over 3.5kloc already :P |
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| 08:45.41 | project2501a | what's the upper limit on the number of CPUs the linux kernel will recon? |
| 08:46.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | lots |
| 08:46.10 | project2501a | i think i'll have to start a package for SGI Altix UV |
| 08:46.23 | project2501a | Kamping_Kaiser: my UV has 2048 on board. |
| 08:46.36 | project2501a | and i want all those to be in a single image |
| 08:46.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | project2501a: its at least 1024, not sure about 2048 |
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| 08:48.50 | dz2 | why is rsync giving me this message:? |
| 08:48.53 | dz2 | cannot delete non-empty directory: usr/lib/perl/5.8.8 |
| 08:48.58 | AmberJ | d3x: :) |
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| 08:49.16 | project2501a | Kamping_Kaiser: SGI is telling me that they have a "patch" in SuSE to make the kernel recon up to 2048 cpus |
| 08:49.17 | AmberJ | is off now for lunch...bbl |
| 08:49.28 | project2501a | SGI hasn't written code for the kernel ever since 2002 |
| 08:49.37 | project2501a | so, they are bsing me ;) |
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| 08:50.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | project2501a: you sure? i'm pretty sure they were still working on filesystems in linux until a few years ago |
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| 08:51.54 | project2501a | Kamping_Kaiser: point granted, they may be still contributing to xfs. but i do not think they are writing code for handling large amounts of cpu |
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| 08:53.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | project2501a: probably not (especially since they got bought) |
| 08:54.52 | tbty | I found how to check which packages are held in aptitude with this command: aptitude search ~i|grep ^ih. I wonder what the ^ is for in the grep command? |
| 08:54.54 | project2501a | anyway, linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64_UV-1000 here we come |
| 08:55.42 | tbty | why could't I just write: aptitude search ~i|grep ih |
| 08:56.28 | bolt-work | tbty: ^ is the start of the line. ($ is the end) |
| 08:56.59 | bolt-work | tbty: ^hello$ matches only lines that only contain the word hello, and nothing else. |
| 08:57.25 | tbty | okej then I know, thanks for the help |
| 08:58.21 | tbty | but why could't I find it in the man pages? |
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| 08:59.03 | bolt-work | man pages probably only mention regex |
| 08:59.07 | bolt-work | !regex |
| 08:59.07 | dpkg | i heard regex is ^[$%]?s/.*?:(?:\\\\\\\)+/.*?:(?:\\\\\\\\)*/[i]?$, or tutorial at http://weblogtoolscollection.com/regex/regex.php |
| 08:59.30 | bolt-work | can't have the full documentation of regex in every man page of every program that uses them :) |
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| 09:00.46 | tbty | ok so regex is a standart text serach patter |
| 09:00.50 | tbty | ok then I with you |
| 09:00.59 | bolt-work | :) |
| 09:01.32 | tbty | now I see that at the end of the man page it says see alo regex(7) |
| 09:02.49 | bolt-work | yupyup |
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| 09:05.29 | kripz | Im using XFCE and a normal user account. How can i elevate certain windows to do its jobs with root access? |
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| 09:06.33 | petemc | !sux |
| 09:06.33 | dpkg | sux is a utility for running X apps as a different user. "aptitude install sux" and documentation at http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ . Also ask me about <root x> for other alternatives. Sux is also the way some people spell sucks and usually implies that they don't know what they are talking about. Ask me about <u>. |
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| 09:08.34 | kripz | So no easy way to right click a short cut and run as root or anything like that? |
| 09:09.04 | petemc | gksudo |
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| 09:14.12 | _0x47 | hiho, i tried to remove a specific package from a library compilation debian package build. well, i removed the corresponding lines in debian/control and got rid of some lines in debian/rules that were specific for that package. after trying to "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa"iit appears it's still trying to create that package. where else could it be defined? Error is: No rule to make target `debian/libboost-python-dev.postinst.in', needed by `debian/libboo |
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| 09:28.00 | dz2 | adding --delete-excluded seemed to fix problem |
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| 09:29.25 | _0x47 | dz2: are you replying to me? |
| 09:30.25 | dz2 | no |
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| 09:35.54 | ru1 | hello. i have a doubt about binary linux distributions (archlinux, debian, ..). how is it possible for the developers to release packages that will work on my machine? i mean... they surely ran a configure script that checked their system, not mine |
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| 09:36.46 | petemc | ru1: the assumption is that your machine is the same architecture as the developers |
| 09:37.44 | ru1 | petemc, even if the architecture is the same (for example x86) i could have too old package versions, or missing some |
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| 09:38.46 | d3x | ru1, hence the package dependencies |
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| 09:40.19 | ru1 | but i may have installed on my system something from source, not official packages only |
| 09:40.25 | ethanol | mornin' all |
| 09:40.38 | lindi- | ru1: adding extra packages should not break existing ones |
| 09:40.56 | lindi- | ru1: packages are built in an environment that has nothing extra |
| 09:41.40 | ru1 | where can i learn more about this "environment"? |
| 09:42.03 | lindi- | ru1: http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/ |
| 09:45.12 | petemc | ru1: if you have installed something from source, then indeed things may break, thats why its better to use the packaging system |
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| 09:45.26 | ru1 | i'm not that sure now. the culprit is autotools i think |
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| 09:46.35 | lindi- | ru1: culprit of what exactly? is there some specific bug? |
| 09:46.43 | bowman | Hi all! I'm a bit confused about limits. ulimit -n gives me 1024 for both a normal and the root user. /proc/sys/fs/file-max contains the value 65535. ulimit shows 1024 both for hard and soft limits, and I'm a little confused about how to permanently increase the soft limit to 8192 open files for anyone. any help? |
| 09:46.53 | ru1 | no bugs. autotools based builds introduce so many variables |
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| 09:47.32 | lindi- | ru1: usually the problems come from non-autotools packages that might for example be hardcoded to use MMX extensions |
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| 09:48.10 | lindi- | ru1: for example chromium-browser does not run on openmoko right now because of a similar issue |
| 09:49.09 | ru1 | lindi-, i still think the best thing is to use makefiles only. but i'm not expert of building large software. the longest program i've written was a single c file of about 500 lines |
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| 09:50.14 | lindi- | ru1: if you use only makefiles then how do you for example tell the software to install to /usr instead of /usr/local? |
| 09:50.54 | d3x | lindi-, vim Makefile |
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| 09:50.56 | d3x | :P |
| 09:51.11 | ru1 | lindi-, as far as i know, makefiles can have variables. you just say make install VAR=xxx |
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| 09:52.52 | ru1 | i think i read somewhere the bsd uses this kind of build system |
| 09:53.39 | d3x | i think linux kernel uses something like this. you don't want to look inside the makefile :) |
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| 09:54.23 | ru1 | d3x, i looked inside the kernel makefiles. it has for example the CROSS_COMPILE and ARCH variables |
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| 09:57.00 | lindi- | ru1: yes they can but without standard you get a mess |
| 09:57.44 | Nebukadneza | i have heho |
| 09:57.55 | cthuluh | bowman: * soft nofile 8192 |
| 09:58.04 | cthuluh | in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 09:58.05 | Nebukadneza | s/i have//g |
| 09:58.24 | cthuluh | bowman: add also a second line with "hard" instead of "soft" |
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| 10:00.51 | bowman | cthuluh: yeah. I did that yesterday :) I just found out what the problem was - I had completely disabled all PAM mechanisms on the test system ^^ |
| 10:01.14 | cthuluh | strange idea |
| 10:02.42 | bowman | cthuluh: yes, mistake rather than strange idea ... thanks for your help though |
| 10:02.55 | Nebukadneza | whenever i try to build a new kernel with make-kpkg i get a "dpkg-deb: upstream version unknown doesn't contain any digits" at the end of the build process.. |
| 10:02.59 | Nebukadneza | any ideas what i could do? |
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| 10:03.40 | lvh | anyone know if there's any repos for testing/unstable for the firefox 4 betas (possbily iceweasel)? |
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| 10:46.16 | Jimmy_89 | Hey guys, I am getting slow write performance on one of my raid5 set up with mdamdm |
| 10:46.28 | Jimmy_89 | I can read at ~300mb/s, but only write at about 2 atm |
| 10:46.29 | Jimmy_89 | lol |
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| 10:47.28 | psycobob_ | or more to the point, is it likeley to bork up a normal system ? |
| 10:49.11 | Unidentified-nic | how do I upgrade my kernel in cli? |
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| 10:53.36 | streuner | Unidentified-nic: what does "dpkg -l libc6" say? |
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| 10:54.07 | Unidentified-nic | streuner I got it... |
| 10:54.21 | Unidentified-nic | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 10:54.44 | streuner | that would upgrade the whole system and not only kernel... |
| 10:55.07 | Unidentified-nic | I installed deb 5.04 lenny... |
| 10:55.19 | Unidentified-nic | I was trying to upgrade the whole system... |
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| 10:59.52 | Unidentified-nic | streuner I did dist-upgrade and I need to now do apt-get -f install and now Im getting this http://76.115.157.20/error |
| 11:00.48 | karma___ | Hello! Really simple iptables-related question: how do I send all forwarded packets to some target and how do I delete this rule without using its number? |
| 11:02.08 | lindi- | karma___: create a separate chain for it so that you can enable/disable it by flushing the whole chain |
| 11:02.23 | lindi- | karma___: what do you mean by the first one? |
| 11:02.44 | karma___ | lindi-, first part of question? |
| 11:02.47 | lindi- | karma___: yes |
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| 11:03.06 | lindi- | karma___: how many computers are involved in your setu? |
| 11:03.40 | karma___ | lindi-, i just want to get all forwarded packets by some certain target, like 'iptables -A FORWARD -j SOME_TARGET'.. it is one router |
| 11:04.08 | lindi- | karma___: so how many computers? three? desktop - router - desktop2? |
| 11:04.40 | karma___ | lindi-, no, this computer is connected to backbone + few vlans |
| 11:04.45 | karma___ | lindi-, very busy router |
| 11:04.54 | bartm | Unidentified-nic: maybe the same problem as this ? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535442 |
| 11:05.17 | lindi- | karma___: i'm sorry but you have to think of the simplest possible scenario here or communicating something like this over IRC fails |
| 11:05.22 | Unidentified-nic | bartm uninstalled the sql thing fixed |
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| 11:06.00 | lindi- | karma___: If you want to try this on real system then the output of iki.fi/lindi/print-net-settings on all affected computers probably has enough information for us to see the situation |
| 11:06.45 | karma___ | lindi-, give me a moment |
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| 11:08.10 | karma___ | lindi-, output is 37M file |
| 11:08.16 | karma___ | lindi-, do you really want to see it? |
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| 11:09.06 | Unidentified-nic | where is the network config at in debian? |
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| 11:09.50 | karma___ | Unidentified-nic, what do you mean? may be /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 11:10.16 | Unidentified-nic | thats it thx |
| 11:12.31 | lindi- | karma___: how can it be that large? |
| 11:13.19 | karma___ | lindi-, i told you that is very busy router, there are 25 vlan-s and non-trivial routing |
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| 11:13.34 | lindi- | karma___: ok, i don't think I have time to read all of that :) |
| 11:13.46 | karma___ | l-rw-r--r-- 1 karma karma 37572360 Jul 9 15:08 xx.out |
| 11:13.47 | karma___ | :) |
| 11:13.47 | lindi- | karma___: i'm sure you can think of a simplified scenario? |
| 11:14.12 | karme | how stable is btrfs? especially i am interested in its file based copy-on-write semantics - i want to use it for some kind of transaction mechanism for a filed based db |
| 11:14.20 | karma___ | lindi-, i just don't want to broke it that's why i am scared to do something like 'iptables -A FORWARD -j IPFIX' :) |
| 11:14.27 | lindi- | karma___: heh :) |
| 11:14.31 | karma___ | lindi-, may be it will work out :) |
| 11:15.06 | karme | or any other ideas to implement copy-on-write for mmaped files? |
| 11:15.16 | karme | (in user space that is) |
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| 11:16.58 | karme | thought about gdb, qemu, valgrind ... |
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| 11:21.09 | ania_ | aaa |
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| 11:24.35 | tarkaram | !ping tarkaram |
| 11:24.35 | dpkg | tolls a 5-meter-bell over tarkaram's head |
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| 11:42.54 | project2501a | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:43.32 | project2501a | i need to keep track of P/N, S/N & FRU |
| 11:43.44 | psycobob | notepad ? |
| 11:43.57 | psycobob | oh wait thats windows based |
| 11:44.00 | psycobob | sorry |
| 11:44.00 | project2501a | am in in #windows? :P |
| 11:44.08 | psycobob | try vi |
| 11:44.28 | project2501a | vi does not work when you want to make a workflow with netboot, netinstall, lshw and nagios |
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| 11:45.11 | psycobob | build a lamp server drop a wiki in it & do it in that |
| 11:45.36 | project2501a | that works, but you can't post external data into a wiki automatically, i think |
| 11:45.57 | psycobob | or do straight html |
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| 11:46.54 | cast | dokuwiki will work with just apache/php, and has plain text files as a storage backend, so conceivably it would be trivial to dump data in automagically |
| 11:47.59 | project2501a | cast: good idea. i can manipulate those using text files and still have history of what i've used |
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| 11:48.28 | cast | wonders how history works in dokuwiki... |
| 11:48.39 | project2501a | let's see if perl has a doku wiki module.... |
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| 11:52.39 | deever | how can i define a bridge without children in the network/interfaces? |
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| 11:56.07 | the_gamer | how to change the keymap under debian? |
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| 11:59.10 | streuner | dpkg, keymap |
| 11:59.10 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
| 11:59.28 | the_gamer | thx |
| 11:59.47 | the_gamer | dpkg, <drxx> |
| 11:59.48 | dpkg | the_gamer: wish i knew |
| 11:59.59 | the_gamer | yeah, ask about it... |
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| 12:00.19 | the_gamer | doesn't matter, first suffices, thanks |
| 12:00.33 | streuner | the_gamer: /msg (message) dpkg (bot) keymap (factoid) |
| 12:00.58 | streuner | the_gamer: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 12:01.10 | tote | how do i solve this problem on debian testing: |
| 12:01.11 | tote | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). |
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| 12:03.48 | pozic | I don't have the command upgrade-from-grub-legacy on my system. |
| 12:04.10 | pozic | But I still get the chained version of grub @ boot. |
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| 12:08.03 | pozic | Never mind. |
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| 12:11.45 | pozic | When I run upgrade-from-grub-legacy I get error: out of partition: http://paste.debian.net/80069/ |
| 12:12.10 | pozic | (which is a wonderful error message.. (who makes up those messages?)) |
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| 12:14.49 | cast | guess you don't remember when you got either LI or LO |
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| 12:17.37 | Jimmy_89 | what filesystem is best to use for a raid? |
| 12:17.47 | petemc | ext3 is popular |
| 12:17.56 | petemc | thats why its the default |
| 12:18.11 | pozic | Jimmy_89: that seems rather irrelevant to whether or not you use raid. |
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| 12:18.34 | cast | petemc: ntfs is popular too... |
| 12:18.36 | cast | ducks |
| 12:18.38 | Jimmy_89 | lol |
| 12:18.44 | petemc | not on linux its not.. |
| 12:18.44 | pozic | Jimmy_89: raid simply duplicates the amount of work done. |
| 12:19.01 | petemc | and ntfs isnt a bad fs, imo |
| 12:19.07 | pozic | Jimmy_89: I don't see any sane design in which case it would matter. |
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| 12:19.19 | pozic | Jimmy_89: that said, it might be that the people who implemented are actually crazy. |
| 12:19.29 | pozic | implemented it* |
| 12:19.35 | cast | petemc: is its specifications published in a nice easily accessible manner? |
| 12:19.49 | petemc | no idea, probably not |
| 12:19.53 | petemc | i didnt suggest ntfs |
| 12:20.01 | pozic | I think you can get it for a small fee. |
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| 12:20.03 | Jimmy_89 | mmm its just I think my ext3 filesystem either just got corrupted on my raid, or one of the hard disks is faulty |
| 12:20.06 | cast | i'm just challenging the isn't a bad fs bit..:P |
| 12:20.08 | pozic | (but who cares?) |
| 12:20.15 | cast | if it has no specs its bad! |
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| 12:22.40 | cast | question, with a linux raid1 setup, there is no protection within the raid layer against a bad controller/drive returning junk as it dies? |
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| 12:24.35 | brammat0r | can tcpdump filter by packet intestines? for example, by "Client Ethernet Address" field in dhcp protocol packets |
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| 12:25.41 | hideo | brammat0r: man pcap-filter |
| 12:26.47 | brammat0r | no manual entry for that topic 1-\ |
| 12:27.07 | hideo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:28.30 | hideo | brammat0r: do you have libpcap0.* installed? |
| 12:29.08 | brammat0r | hideo, yep as it is prereq for tcpdump (I think) |
| 12:29.33 | hideo | so man 7 pcap-filter does not work? |
| 12:29.45 | brammat0r | libpcap0.8 package hasnt any man pages |
| 12:29.57 | brammat0r | doesnt work, too |
| 12:30.14 | hideo | apt-file search /usr/share/man/man7/pcap-filter.7.gz |
| 12:30.14 | hideo | libpcap0.8: /usr/share/man/man7/pcap-filter.7.gz |
| 12:30.35 | hideo | are you using testing or stable or what |
| 12:32.09 | brammat0r | 5.0 |
| 12:32.22 | hideo | brammat0r: ok, looks like testing & sid have them but not stable |
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| 12:33.01 | etam | hi |
| 12:33.16 | etam | how can i install python 2.6 in stable lenny? |
| 12:33.29 | brammat0r | (sigh) so I need to install virtual sid and try it there. argh. |
| 12:33.42 | hideo | brammat0r: check bugreports |
| 12:34.55 | cast | etam: could use stow, and install it in /usr/local/stow/python2.6 |
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| 12:35.11 | etam | what is stow? |
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| 12:35.54 | cast | a GNU program |
| 12:36.07 | etam | cast: ok |
| 12:36.14 | tidd | Could anybody give me a pointer on where to find etch? I am having some difficulty locating a repo. |
| 12:36.16 | etam | cast: but i prefere apt-get install ;) |
| 12:36.32 | brammat0r | http://www.manpagez.com/man/7/pcap-filter/ can't find anything suitable. |
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| 12:36.58 | etam | cast: is it possible? |
| 12:36.58 | rudi_s | !tell tidd about etch |
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| 12:38.02 | cast | etam: if python2.6 isn't in stable, then it's risky to install it in /usr instead of /usr/local/ |
| 12:38.12 | hideo | brammat0r: ether dst/src/host ? |
| 12:38.20 | tidd | rudi_s any idea why etch has been removed? |
| 12:38.34 | brammat0r | hideo, NOT packet headers. internal fields. |
| 12:38.36 | rudi_s | tidd: Because it's too old. |
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| 12:38.44 | rudi_s | And there are no more security updates. |
| 12:39.41 | brammat0r | for example, I have thick flow of dhcp requests from many dhcp relays. And I need to filter exact dhcp _client_, not _relay_ (I don't even know which reley he's using) |
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| 12:39.45 | tidd | rudi_s thanks. |
| 12:39.49 | rudi_s | np |
| 12:39.59 | janeclandio | tidd |
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| 12:40.10 | tidd | just surprised it isn't in old stable or something |
| 12:40.12 | janeclandio | tidd use archive if required |
| 12:40.27 | janeclandio | that's how I fixed it |
| 12:40.34 | rudi_s | tidd: It was for quite some time, but it's archived now. |
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| 12:40.42 | tidd | janeclandio good to know! |
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| 12:45.05 | hideo | hmm filter by dhcp port and grep the field? |
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| 12:52.33 | foetus | how could i make a simple test on a filelist (output of tar -tf archive.tar.gz>filelist), if the files or directories listed in 'filelist' does exist in the filesystem (results in "tar successfully created" or something) |
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| 12:56.13 | sobczyk | is there any good documentation on libapt-pkg? (or alternatives for creating apt frontends) |
| 12:56.49 | freeone3000 | foetus: Bash scripting. for $i in $(tar -tf archive.tar.gz) do if [ ! -e $i ] then echo "Tar failed"; exit 2; fi; done . Or something of the stort. |
| 12:58.05 | pozic | My upgrade-from-grub-legacy given me 0<newline>error: out of partition. What the hell does that mean? |
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| 12:59.05 | aguitel | anyway to update iceweacel to 3.66 in squeeze? |
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| 13:01.45 | pix| | there is no iceweasel 3.6.6 not even in experimental as far as I know |
| 13:01.50 | sweetpi | aguitel: its not even in sid, maybe try local install |
| 13:02.33 | aguitel | sweetpi, how i make this "local install" ? |
| 13:03.41 | sweetpi | aguitel: download the tarball from mozilla and install it to /usr/local or your home directory |
| 13:03.56 | pix| | apropos firefox, any idea how to make 'menu' recognize a symlink in /usr/bin for firefox |
| 13:05.17 | aguitel | and what about Mozilla Daily PPA ? |
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| 13:07.54 | hramrach | Hello |
| 13:08.03 | hramrach | How do I mount a nfs share? |
| 13:08.14 | cast | with mount |
| 13:08.18 | hramrach | I get mount.nfs4: mounting 10.11.12.13:/scratch/nfs failed, reason given by server: |
| 13:08.20 | hramrach | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.49 | cast | and dos the share that directory |
| 13:08.52 | jordanm | error seems to explain it |
| 13:09.15 | hramrach | afaict it does share the directory |
| 13:09.26 | hramrach | no errors logged I coud find |
| 13:10.24 | bowman | bye, have a good weekend |
| 13:12.45 | hramrach | hmm, when I remove the 4 from fstype it mounts, only complains about svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97). |
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| 13:14.21 | hramrach | there is no obvious way to designate an export as v3 or v4 and apparently the version the client requests must match the server export version |
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| 13:14.33 | hramrach | this suck |
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| 13:33.29 | Jimmy_89 | is there a way to randomly test the write speeds at different blocks in a partition? |
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| 13:37.55 | jbwiv_ | I'm trying to install apache's mod-security on debian 5, but it appears to no longer be in apt. "apt-cache search mod | grep secu" yields nothing. Does anyone know if/why it was removed? |
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| 13:41.24 | cast | jbwiv_: at different block offsets? |
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| 13:41.29 | cast | Jimmy_89: you, even |
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| 13:43.39 | sweetpi | jbwiv_: its in backports |
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| 13:44.25 | kpal | Hi, has acroread been removed from the packages? Is there an alternative repository with it? |
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| 13:45.10 | cast | kpal: that's non-free, and a piece of shit. ask adobe. |
| 13:45.10 | Jimmy_89 | yeh I want to get like a write speed profile across the whole parition |
| 13:45.25 | cast | Jimmy_89: zcav in the bonnie package will do that for you |
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| 13:45.48 | Jimmy_89 | ok I will have a look at it |
| 13:46.09 | jbwiv_ | sweetpi, ah, ok |
| 13:46.25 | lontra | kpal: it's in debian-multimedia i think |
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| 13:46.39 | jbwiv_ | sweetpi, can you point me to where the backports respositories are listed? |
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| 13:47.00 | lontra | kpal: and it really doesn't work any better than evince, kpdf, or okular ... and in fact integrates horribly |
| 13:47.59 | jbwiv_ | sweetpi, never mind, found it. thanks |
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| 13:49.51 | Jimmy_89 | is zcav a seperate package? I have bonnie++. |
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| 13:50.39 | kpal | cast, lontra: Totally agree with you, but in some very rare particulate cases acroread is what I need. Indeed, it is in debian-multimedia, I just used wrong mirror. Thanks |
| 13:50.47 | nsadmin | , versions zcav |
| 13:50.48 | cast | Jimmy_89: no, it should be in that package |
| 13:50.48 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'zcav' was found. |
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| 13:51.23 | lontra | kpal: no worries ... i know that some of the articles i am reading for university don't render properly in evince or they crash it ... so i know what you mean ... i just wish there was a really good pdf viewer in linux |
| 13:51.54 | cast | there is at least one...xpdf works very well |
| 13:52.18 | kpal | lontra: Exactly the case. Otherwise I prefer okular |
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| 13:55.04 | lontra | cast: xpdf is good too but last i checked it wasn't installable in testing ... though that was a few months ago |
| 13:56.28 | Jimmy_89 | where do you specifiy the device when calling zcav? |
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| 13:59.07 | cast | zcav /dev/sda |
| 13:59.30 | nsadmin | in hollywood california |
| 13:59.44 | jbwiv_ | sweetpi, it looks like libapache2-mod-security2 is a virtual package pointing to libapache-mod-security. does this mean libapache-mod-security will work with apache2? |
| 14:00.59 | sweetpi | jbwiv_: yes, just install the package it points to |
| 14:01.14 | jbwiv_ | sweetpi, cool. thank you |
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| 14:06.39 | dupondje | Everytime a user connect true ftp (vsftpd) I get [1549619.691310] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions in dmesg. Any idea where thats comming from ? |
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| 14:11.19 | gigo | how can i find which package installed /usr/lib/libm.a ? |
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| 14:16.37 | ansgar | gigo: dpkg -S /foo/bar |
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| 14:23.56 | rical | I wan't to make a viritual server (port forwarding??) so that if someone access my_ip:4000 then they are routed to a webserver connected to a different interface on my machine, what is this called where do I read up on it? |
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| 14:34.33 | project2501a | what's mark shuttleworth's email? |
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| 14:35.05 | project2501a | i just want to thank him for the selfish, inanimate linux lusers he is spawning to replace the computer literate |
| 14:35.10 | dupondje | Everytime a user connect true ftp (vsftpd) I get [1549619.691310] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions in dmesg. Any idea where thats comming from ? |
| 14:35.21 | project2501a | Dunedan: yes |
| 14:35.22 | project2501a | erh |
| 14:35.28 | project2501a | dupondje: yes |
| 14:35.35 | Shadur | project2501a: If you're going to troll, please do it creatively. |
| 14:36.10 | project2501a | Shadur: i'm open to ideas mate :D |
| 14:36.18 | dupondje | project2501a: so where its comming from ? |
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| 14:37.12 | project2501a | dupondje: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lo%3A+Disabled+Privacy+Extensions+in+dmesg |
| 14:37.36 | project2501a | first and second hit |
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| 14:38.30 | gigo | I would like to see the definition of fabs() function in my libc6. how can I do that? |
| 14:38.34 | gigo | i want to see the source. |
| 14:38.55 | gigo | i went to the eglibc website but unable to locate it |
| 14:38.55 | project2501a | gigo: you can download the source for glibc6 |
| 14:39.04 | project2501a | apt-get source <package> |
| 14:39.07 | dupondje | project2501a: I know what it is exactly, but why it gets triggered when somebody logins into ftp .? |
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| 14:39.27 | project2501a | dupondje: udp? |
| 14:39.42 | dupondje | how you mean ? |
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| 14:40.21 | kaduk | Hi |
| 14:40.22 | hersoy | hello, how can i see listening udp port? |
| 14:40.25 | kaduk | how to install flash for amd64 ? |
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| 14:40.41 | kaduk | gnash has broken packages, adobe stoped proving flash for amd64 |
| 14:40.53 | kaduk | any known walkarounds without installing bunch of 32libs |
| 14:40.54 | kaduk | ? |
| 14:40.58 | project2501a | gigo: the glibc source is mega-spaggeti |
| 14:41.08 | gigo | ok |
| 14:41.49 | Shadur | gigo: Once you'v got the source, try find ./ -type f -iname \*.c -exec grep -l fabs {} \; |
| 14:42.01 | kaduk | any help? |
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| 14:42.10 | Shadur | With any luck that'll narrow down your search a bit. |
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| 14:42.47 | project2501a | Shadur: um, why not just grep? |
| 14:42.53 | project2501a | grep -ir |
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| 14:43.21 | kaduk | come on |
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| 14:43.52 | Shadur | project2501a: Actually, grepping just the .h files rather than the .c files might be an even faster idea. No matter how many places it's called, it'll only be declared once. |
| 14:44.00 | gigo | yes Shadur, thanks |
| 14:44.07 | project2501a | Shadur: very good idea |
| 14:44.12 | project2501a | actually no |
| 14:44.13 | project2501a | wait |
| 14:44.18 | project2501a | depending on the arch |
| 14:44.24 | project2501a | it might actually be multiple times |
| 14:44.30 | Shadur | kaduk: None. Last time I tried the open-source flash player isn't all that functional yet. |
| 14:44.36 | project2501a | kaduk: firefox has a library that allows you to use the 32bit version of flash |
| 14:44.50 | gigo | i would simply do grep --include=*.c -r fabs . |
| 14:45.02 | webguy024 | I am having trouble understanding DNS on my cloud server. Where is the domain name setup on the server? Apache sites-enabled? |
| 14:45.05 | kaduk | project2501a, 32lib is not a solution |
| 14:45.18 | project2501a | gigo: why are you using --include |
| 14:45.24 | Shadur | kaduk: No, but ugly as it is, it's a workaround. |
| 14:45.26 | gigo | to check only *.c files |
| 14:45.30 | gigo | project2501a: |
| 14:45.35 | project2501a | kaduk: may i suggest you frok the project and type faster? |
| 14:45.41 | project2501a | fork, even |
| 14:45.49 | kaduk | project2501a, I dont know what frok is |
| 14:46.04 | project2501a | kaduk: may i suggest you fork the project and type faster? |
| 14:46.06 | Shadur | Anyway, I've got a wedding to be at tomorrow and I need to do some shopping for the little nieces. |
| 14:46.16 | kaduk | Shadur, well its a bit shame, they should leave beta at least |
| 14:46.25 | kaduk | Shadur, I hope html5 will kick out flash out of market |
| 14:46.32 | project2501a | i hope html dies |
| 14:46.39 | project2501a | especially html5 |
| 14:46.40 | project2501a | fuckers |
| 14:46.43 | Shadur | kaduk: Write a stern letter to the project team and tell them how disappointed in them you are. |
| 14:46.48 | project2501a | gave up xhtml for html |
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| 14:46.55 | project2501a | Shadur: OOOOOH |
| 14:46.58 | project2501a | IT BURNSSSSSSSSSS |
| 14:47.04 | project2501a | ^5 |
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| 14:48.12 | freeone3000 | I'm having some trouble with 'ftpd' - it complains that "Error:Could not connect to server" *after* authentication. |
| 14:48.28 | Shadur | Which FTPd? |
| 14:48.52 | Shadur | prefers using vsftpd over the vanilla one. Better security, good featureset for what I want. |
| 14:49.04 | freeone3000 | the one provided by 'ftpd' |
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| 14:50.01 | qq- | isn't ftpd only a link ? |
| 14:50.25 | freeone3000 | Uh. Possibly. I don't know. I'm installing the vsftpd package now. |
| 14:50.27 | Shadur | freeone3000: Check which version you have installed, then see if there's anything in the syslogs. |
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| 14:52.04 | freeone3000 | There's nothing containing 'ftp' in /var/log/, and ftpd doesn't seem to be a binary, even for root. Odd. |
| 14:52.16 | freeone3000 | Going with the new package, restarting inetd, then seeing what happens different. |
| 14:52.49 | Shadur | Inetd might be your problem. IIRC vsftpd tends to prefer to run standalone. |
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| 14:55.20 | freeone3000 | Alrighty. If there's no inetd script, then there's nothing to change. I haven't messed with config. Ran `/etc/init.d/vsftpd start`. My FTP client now gets the unable to connect message after waiting for motd, but after connection. nmap says port 21 is open. |
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| 14:58.44 | freeone3000 | Reinstalled 'ftpd', and now it works for some reason. Okay. Whatever. |
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| 15:12.29 | Ahri | anyone know where i can get help on the "openssl" command, and specifically its config file? |
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| 15:13.09 | epsilon | in church or #openssl |
| 15:13.30 | Ahri | #openssl is dead |
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| 15:15.32 | K1ng | http://searchirc.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=55315#55315 <= any comments on it? |
| 15:17.04 | LoRez | K1ng: don't spam. |
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| 15:17.25 | lvh | anyone know of a good non-gnome non-kde pulseaudio applet |
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| 15:18.41 | goldins | hi, is there a separate channel for ia64 debian? |
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| 15:19.54 | petemc | goldins: no one uses itanium so probably not |
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| 15:20.07 | goldins | petemc: probably because it's so sucky. |
| 15:20.13 | petemc | right |
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| 15:20.21 | goldins | I've installed debian on 4 architectures |
| 15:20.27 | goldins | and I can't get it to work on this thing |
| 15:20.28 | goldins | :-( |
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| 15:21.07 | jesselang | How can I install testing from a USB stick? I'm having a hard time finding the boot.img.gz. |
| 15:21.58 | rvsjoen | !tell jesselang about usb install |
| 15:24.06 | b0nghitter | ouch http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-create-your-own-aliases-in-debian.html&hl=en |
| 15:26.48 | epsilon | "Malicious software includes 28 scripting exploit(s), 15 exploit(s). Successful infection resulted in an average of 1 new process(es) on the target machine." LOL |
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| 15:28.59 | jesselang | rvsjoen, do I have to install stable from USB, and then upgrade to testing? |
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| 15:30.08 | WormFood | how does debian determine the ethernet numbering? Does it go by the MAC address? I replaced my motherboard (the same make and model), and now my eth0 has become eth1 (there is no eth0 now) |
| 15:30.30 | goldins | WormFood: that's probably because you have an eth0 defined somewhere |
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| 15:30.37 | pflanze | WormFood: check nameif |
| 15:30.37 | WormFood | I do goldins |
| 15:30.39 | goldins | like in udev |
| 15:30.45 | goldins | yeah take it out |
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| 15:31.00 | WormFood | where is the config for that? etc somewhere? |
| 15:31.22 | goldins | /etc/udev/somewhere |
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| 15:31.39 | epsilon | udev/rules.d/z...net... |
| 15:31.49 | WormFood | I found it rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 15:31.49 | goldins | thx |
| 15:31.52 | epsilon | rename as you want and reboot |
| 15:31.53 | WormFood | thanks guys |
| 15:31.58 | goldins | np |
| 15:32.10 | WormFood | heh...I'm not going to reboot for that....next reboot will be good enough for me |
| 15:32.22 | goldins | you can restart udev? maybe |
| 15:32.52 | WormFood | maybe |
| 15:32.58 | WormFood | but not while i'm connected |
| 15:33.01 | epsilon | maybe, but I usualy do that config stuff at beginning of an installation, in that phase a simple 30sec-reboot is faster then anything else |
| 15:33.02 | pflanze | Rather, down the interfaces and rmmod the ethernet drivers |
| 15:33.17 | pflanze | then modprobe them again. (Untested) |
| 15:33.18 | WormFood | well, I would assume it would disconnect me |
| 15:33.23 | goldins | you're in over ssh? |
| 15:33.29 | WormFood | no, I'm local |
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| 15:33.38 | WormFood | maybe it wouldn't disconnect me, if I was fast enough |
| 15:33.38 | goldins | you're worried about disconnecting from IRC? |
| 15:33.42 | WormFood | actually, it shouldn't |
| 15:33.47 | WormFood | no, I don't care about irc |
| 15:33.57 | WormFood | no wait....irc is my world :P |
| 15:34.00 | goldins | lol |
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| 15:34.31 | WormFood | has been on IRC since 1994 |
| 15:35.16 | epsilon | .oO so much wasted time in the life |
| 15:35.31 | epsilon | *run* |
| 15:35.34 | WormFood | I've been chatting online before 1/2 the people here were even born :P |
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| 15:35.55 | WormFood | I started chatting online, with a 300 baud modem back in 1984 or 1985 |
| 15:36.13 | WormFood | probably '85 |
| 15:36.16 | cast | not really anything to boost about ;P |
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| 15:37.18 | fxiny | 330 baud modem and a couple of frog legs as UPS backup :P |
| 15:37.29 | WormFood | I remember '85 is when I bought my first modem....but I was using one before that. |
| 15:37.30 | fxiny | hero ! |
| 15:37.32 | WormFood | 300 baud |
| 15:37.39 | WormFood | maybe you're thinking of 110 baud |
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| 15:38.15 | WormFood | for 110 baud, we'd just connect the rx and tx lines to the tail of a gerbil, connected to the phone |
| 15:38.33 | WormFood | did you know, they still use 110 baud today?...MANY people use it. |
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| 15:40.33 | unixp | how can i see if java is rightly installed? |
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| 15:40.56 | lindi- | unixp: sudo aptitude install josm && josm |
| 15:40.57 | cast | depends how you installed it |
| 15:41.04 | lindi- | unixp: if it starts then it works :) |
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| 15:41.34 | epsilon | java -version |
| 15:41.46 | unixp | if i tip in sudo aptitude install openjdk-6-jre - it says it is installed |
| 15:41.47 | wad | Hmm. I need a way to check to see if two image files are the same or similar. Any of you guys know of a linux tool that does this? Some googling surfaced pHash as an algorithm that would be useful, but is there an implementation somewhere? |
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| 15:42.25 | unixp | but i vut i cant remember to installed it :P |
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| 15:43.34 | fxiny | similar is too vague , same files same md5sum file |
| 15:43.52 | wad | fxiny, see phash.org. That's what I need. |
| 15:44.01 | wad | It does "fuzzy". ;) |
| 15:44.03 | cast | wad: sha1sum for same, rdiff for similar |
| 15:44.18 | wad | checks them out |
| 15:44.58 | cast | when you say image files...do you mean pictures? |
| 15:45.18 | wad | yes |
| 15:45.35 | cast | if you're trying to remove dupes from your porn collection there's a tool for that |
| 15:45.36 | wad | For example, two JPGs, one of which is slightly smaller, have totally different data int he files. |
| 15:45.42 | cast | findimagedupes |
| 15:46.20 | wad | Ah, that looks good! |
| 15:47.15 | wad | (And no, it's for my a porn collection. It's for a website that shows a list of the top images of interest. We don't want dupes in the list.) |
| 15:47.31 | wad | s/for my a/not for a/ |
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| 15:50.08 | cbsd | hi... in debian to install tcl libraries.. it will do only with a apt-get install tcl or it need another package? |
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| 15:50.49 | lindi- | cbsd: apt-cache search tcl has a lot of options |
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| 15:51.48 | cbsd | yes, i have install like 3 tcl8.x and -dev and tcl but still cant find no libtcl in the system |
| 15:52.12 | lindi- | cbsd: what can't find libtcl? |
| 15:52.18 | cbsd | find / -name "libtcl" |
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| 15:52.41 | lindi- | cbsd: library names end with ".so" |
| 15:52.49 | cbsd | :s |
| 15:52.55 | cast | shared libraries, anyway |
| 15:52.59 | lindi- | yes |
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| 15:53.46 | qq- | tcl-dev: /usr/lib/libtcl.so |
| 15:53.59 | qq- | !as |
| 15:53.59 | dpkg | [as] autosearch: install apt-file and use apt-cache search <packagename> and/or apt-file search <name> , do it yourself. Don't forget to run apt-file update ;) |
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| 15:54.11 | qq- | cbsd, ^^ |
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| 15:58.02 | MrWax | how can i create a package of a dir called mydir + all its contents? |
| 15:58.06 | MrWax | i need to do this asap |
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| 15:59.12 | pflanze | Use tar, or zip? |
| 15:59.44 | thrashold | Can anyone suggest me a GUI video player that can change audio sync, different from vlc and mplayer? |
| 16:00.08 | pflanze | smplayer |
| 16:00.21 | thrashold | That's a frontend for mplayer |
| 16:00.33 | pflanze | yes |
| 16:00.50 | thrashold | Well, something that's not a frontend for mplayer. Preferably xine frontend. |
| 16:01.11 | MrWax | pflanze: tar |
| 16:01.29 | pflanze | MrWax: that was meant as a reply to your question |
| 16:01.51 | MrWax | ok ill google it , thanks a lot for your "help" |
| 16:02.17 | pflanze | MrWax: if you meant deb package, then it's not so easy and broken debs are no good. |
| 16:02.29 | MrWax | ? |
| 16:02.44 | pflanze | MrWax: what do you mean if you say "package"? |
| 16:02.51 | MrWax | ohhh |
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| 16:02.58 | MrWax | i mean, just an archived file |
| 16:03.03 | MrWax | mydir.tar |
| 16:03.13 | pflanze | MrWax: ok then tar. "man tar" |
| 16:03.36 | pflanze | Or zip, if you want to be interoperable with windows. |
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| 16:04.32 | we_love_free_too | hello |
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| 16:06.28 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 16:07.00 | unixp | can you recommend icetea instead jre? |
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| 16:09.58 | KB1JWQ | pflanze: Hey, winrar can do tar last time I checked. :-) |
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| 16:14.13 | Terminus- | hello. i'm having this error with tc --> http://codepad.org/wW0UHHI1 |
| 16:14.28 | Terminus- | what's the chance it's a regression of this? --> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=532727 |
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| 16:16.14 | minh | can someone please help me out with apt/dpkg? I want to list all .deb which have dependencies on ncurses. |
| 16:16.15 | jhutchins_lt | pflanze: There are tar ports for windows, and gzip too. |
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| 16:16.36 | jhutchins_lt | ,depends ncurses |
| 16:16.37 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ncurses' was found in lenny/i386. |
| 16:17.10 | Terminus- | oh bugger. sorry. didn't realize i'm using the exact version of iproute mentioned in that bug report. guess it's not gonna get fixed in lenny then. |
| 16:17.50 | minh | judd: well, it's 'libncurses5', right? |
| 16:17.53 | JyZyXEL | !nvidia |
| 16:17.53 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Testing users: ask me about <nvidia squeeze>. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 16:18.29 | jhutchins_lt | minh: I think apt-cache or apt-file will resolve that for you. You can also look it up on Debian's web pages. |
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| 16:19.59 | pflanze | jhutchins, KB1JWQ: and how does this matter for sharing files with standard windows users and newbies? |
| 16:20.24 | minh | jhutchins_lt: judd: I think you got me wrong...I don't want to see, what libncurses5 depends on...it's the other way round: I want to list all debs which USE libncurses5 |
| 16:20.40 | LV-426 | jhutchins, apt-cache rdepends libncurses5 |
| 16:20.49 | pflanze | jhutchins, KB1JWQ: You know, there's even cygwin or if you want to go completely compatible, run linux in a vm.... |
| 16:21.09 | jhutchins_lt | minh: Those methods are still valid, but my judd query wasn't. |
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| 16:21.28 | minh | LV-426: perfect! that's it! |
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| 16:22.13 | LV-426 | np |
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| 16:26.44 | unixp | hey i want to install icedtea but i get this message if i want to ./configure it: http://www.meintext.de/?text=434831278692778 |
| 16:29.00 | pflanze | unixp: apt-cache show ant |
| 16:29.11 | pflanze | so install that |
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| 16:29.20 | unixp | danke |
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| 16:29.52 | unixp | pflanze, wie genau meinst du? |
| 16:30.32 | pflanze | unixp: /join #debian-de if you want to speak german |
| 16:30.42 | d3x | unixp, ich denke dass es ist eine englishe channel |
| 16:30.49 | d3x | whatever i just wrote :P |
| 16:30.55 | unixp | ^^ sry |
| 16:31.05 | d3x | [was it even remotely correct?] |
| 16:31.18 | pflanze | understandable |
| 16:31.26 | unixp | pflanze, ok what must i install ? |
| 16:31.37 | pflanze | the "ant" package. |
| 16:31.40 | JyZyXEL | if you use "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved" in /etc/default/grub how do you select which is the saved default? |
| 16:31.50 | unixp | what does ant do? |
| 16:31.54 | pflanze | unixp: Use whatever package tool you prefer to install Debian packages. |
| 16:32.34 | fxiny | KB1JWQ: winrar is not opensource : 7zip is . windows version comes with a gui . tar and bzip2 are supported , and many more |
| 16:32.39 | pflanze | unixp: for that check the output of " apt-cache show ant" |
| 16:32.56 | ksk | or "aptitude show ant" ;> |
| 16:33.13 | ksk | (u should avoid using both) |
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| 16:35.33 | pflanze | I guess unixp needs a pointer to some Debian entry level manual/tutorial, anyone has a good suggestion? |
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| 16:36.44 | qq- | !reference |
| 16:36.44 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. The latest version (v2) is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ . Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install this too, the package name is debian-reference: 'aptitude install debian-reference' |
| 16:36.57 | jordanm | pflanze: hes been hanging around here for over a month, and I am sure he has been linked to some in that time. doubt it will help |
| 16:37.04 | koruptid | I have a fresh install with Dual Intel 82557 NICs... I don't see eth0/eth1 in my /dev ... can anyone tell me how to get them functional? |
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| 16:37.07 | pflanze | I've just checked the reference but it doesn't really suggest how to search or install packages. |
| 16:37.20 | jordanm | koruptid: lspci -nn, what is the pciid? |
| 16:37.48 | jordanm | pflanze: you mean all of chapter 2? |
| 16:38.03 | koruptid | jordanm: which part is the pciid? |
| 16:38.11 | qq- | pflanze, /msg dpkg as ;) |
| 16:38.12 | pflanze | yes, you have to read all of chapter 2 and be more confused than getting an answer I guess. |
| 16:38.37 | jordanm | koruptid: you can paste the whole line if you are not sure which the pciid |
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| 16:39.35 | koruptid | Jordanm: "00:10.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 [8086:1229] (rev 10)" |
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| 16:39.53 | goldins | can I set a column to equal the values of a column from a different table per a primary key? |
| 16:40.28 | goldins | that is, update bios set assettag = decalnumber inner join decals on decals.serialnumber = bios.ssn doesn't work |
| 16:40.44 | jordanm | ,pciid 8086:1229 |
| 16:40.45 | judd | [8086:1229] is '82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'e100', 'eepro100' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1229 |
| 16:40.49 | goldins | er |
| 16:40.52 | goldins | wrong channel :-P |
| 16:41.03 | jordanm | koruptid: what version of debian are you using? |
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| 16:42.00 | koruptid | Jordanm: 5.05 |
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| 16:42.50 | jordanm | koruptid: ifconfig -a does not display the devices? |
| 16:43.56 | koruptid | jordanm: I can see them in ifconfig -a ... ifup eth1 says Ignoring unknwon interface eth1 |
| 16:44.18 | jordanm | koruptid: that means you have not configured it yet in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:44.38 | jordanm | koruptid: see the relevant section of the reference guid and "man interfaces" for configuration |
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| 16:48.07 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
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| 16:48.47 | pflanze | Anyone using Bell Canada 3G wireless here? I'm having problems, maybe you could reply my mail at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/07/msg00573.html |
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| 16:50.51 | lvh | hey |
| 16:50.55 | lvh | I'm trying to get mobile wireless to work |
| 16:51.02 | lvh | I've installed network manager and it appears to work fine |
| 16:51.11 | lvh | also blueman for talking to the cell phone |
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| 16:51.50 | lvh | I can open a bluetooth dialup link to the phone, blueman says the phone should appear in network-manager |
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| 16:52.19 | lvh | unfortunately, it does not. nm-applet shows "device not managed" which I think is the mobile broadband thing. |
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| 16:55.42 | sebas891 | hi folks, I'm trying to setup a live debian lenny image over the network. (pxe+tftp) |
| 16:55.55 | sebas891 | also, nfs is involved. |
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| 16:56.59 | sebas891 | my question is, what are the right parameter to pass at the boot, (i.e. in pxe conf) |
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| 16:58.53 | sebas891 | so far, it's booting, up to "wating for root device" then a some point it's timing out. and drop to a shell. init... |
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| 16:59.09 | jordanm | sebas891: you should probably look into ltsp |
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| 16:59.46 | sebas891 | Jordanm : you mean as an alternative solution? |
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| 17:00.10 | LV-426 | sebas891, are you passing a kernel & initrd params ? |
| 17:00.13 | sebas891 | jordanm: I want to test hardware more than anything else. |
| 17:00.56 | sebas891 | LV-426: yes, I do, append netboot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.20.20:/srv/livecd/debianlennyi386 initrd=live/lenny/i386/initrd1.img -- |
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| 17:03.31 | crab234 | does anyone know how to control hardware LED's to blink according to network activity? |
| 17:04.10 | crab234 | I'm using Squeeze on a SheevaPlug, and the LED's are connected through GPIO which I can control in /sys/ |
| 17:04.15 | LV-426 | sebas891, why nfs ? why not just use tftp to upload the img ? |
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| 17:06.00 | sebas891 | LV-426: that is an idea, but, I feel that it's a lot of data to transfert. nfs: is just mounting what it's need. |
| 17:06.32 | jordanm | !ltsp |
| 17:06.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project. http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP http://www.ltsp.org/ #ltsp on irc.freenode.net. |
| 17:06.41 | sebas891 | LV-426: but if you know the parameter of boot it with tftp as oppose to nfs, I'll try it. |
| 17:06.49 | LV-426 | sebas891, img will have to cross the wire anyway ... nfs just gives you random access.... |
| 17:07.08 | LV-426 | which isn't needed |
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| 17:08.12 | LV-426 | my tftp setup: kernel debian/etch/i386/linux append vga=normal initrd=debian/etch/i386/initrd.gz -- |
| 17:08.16 | jordanm | sebas891: I think your best bet will to atleast do something similar to ltsp. send the kernel and initrd via tftp and then nfs mount / |
| 17:08.16 | sebas891 | LV-426: ah ok! you're right because the file filesystem.squashfs needs to be downloaded ... then "mounted" |
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| 17:08.33 | jordanm | etch! |
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| 17:09.53 | sebas891 | LV-426: hum. there is something missing, how do you tell where is the image " filesystem.squashfs" |
| 17:10.12 | sebas891 | jordanm: this is what I'm trying to do :) |
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| 17:11.05 | mo_o | hey guys! how can i see how much memory a process is using? |
| 17:11.35 | mo_o | i thought top would be fine but it doesnt show me a size column |
| 17:12.01 | karlpinc | mo_o: ps |
| 17:12.27 | rvsjoen | in top, press 'f' to add columns |
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| 17:13.36 | mo_o | mm it doesnt offer me a size column in there either |
| 17:14.13 | mo_o | if %MEM |
| 17:14.25 | mo_o | but what unit is that in? |
| 17:14.37 | rvsjoen | VIRT, RES and SHR |
| 17:14.44 | rvsjoen | are three different counters for memory |
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| 17:15.23 | mo_o | i know but i'd like to have one number that combines all |
| 17:15.36 | rvsjoen | virtual (used by the process), resident (actual occupied in physical memory), shared (speaks for itself) |
| 17:15.49 | rvsjoen | there is not a way to do that, different numbers mean different things |
| 17:15.50 | mo_o | basically i want to say "process X is using Ymb of memory" (whatever memory it is doesnt matter just the overall count) |
| 17:16.04 | rvsjoen | then you the virtual memory |
| 17:16.06 | rvsjoen | *use |
| 17:16.28 | mo_o | ok |
| 17:16.56 | rvsjoen | I think %MEM works on resident (RES) |
| 17:17.30 | LV-426 | sebas891, use the netboot.tar.gz from here http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ , the img is the initrd |
| 17:17.39 | rvsjoen | you can also use that, probably that would be better, I spoke too soon |
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| 17:18.09 | mo_o | so if i would like to get that number myself i thought i could simply go to /proc/pid/stat and it'd be the first column but that seems to be totally different |
| 17:19.31 | mo_o | statm i mean |
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| 17:21.12 | rvsjoen | first number is the program size |
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| 17:22.05 | rvsjoen | use VmRSS in /proc/pid/stat |
| 17:22.19 | mo_o | mm so i better go for stat and take the 22/23rd? might counted wrong ^^) |
| 17:22.31 | mo_o | yeah ok |
| 17:22.40 | rvsjoen | statm is measured in pages |
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| 17:23.30 | rvsjoen | so if statm's second number (RSS) says 1234, you have 1234*pagesize, pagesize is usually 4kb |
| 17:24.42 | mo_o | ok |
| 17:26.40 | rvsjoen | actually I was thinking about 'status' with regard to VmRSS, not 'stat' |
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| 17:26.51 | rvsjoen | looks like 'stat' also has rss in pages |
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| 17:27.17 | mo_o | i just found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/669438/how-to-get-memory-usage-at-run-time-in-c |
| 17:27.25 | mo_o | which looks pretty decent |
| 17:28.01 | rvsjoen | yes |
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| 17:30.47 | karika200 | hi |
| 17:30.49 | karika200 | I want to set up a wifi repeater with linux and an usb stick |
| 17:30.55 | karika200 | I set mode repeater with iwconfig |
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| 17:31.00 | karika200 | but I can't set essid |
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| 17:31.24 | karika200 | how can i set the AP, which should be repeated? |
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| 17:37.48 | jhutchins_lt | Right, a repeater repeats, so it just uses the essid of the main AP. |
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| 17:40.49 | brah | Every other day I get BADSIG problems when `apt-get update`ing. Running Squeeze, is this supposed to be normal? |
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| 17:42.49 | karika200 | jhutchins_lt, |
| 17:42.50 | karika200 | Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : |
| 17:42.51 | karika200 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.56 | karika200 | I got this message:\ |
| 17:43.10 | karika200 | The device is in repeater mode |
| 17:43.25 | karika200 | why can't set essid for it?:\ |
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| 17:45.51 | jhutchins_lt | karika200: Dunno, possibly need to read the docs for the software you're using to configure it, possibly the unit doesn't support what you're trying to do. |
| 17:47.05 | karika200 | hmm, I think it supports the repeater mode.. but I'll read the docs... I'm using iwconfig |
| 17:48.24 | jhutchins_lt | My only experience with a repeater was turning one into an AP. |
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| 17:48.49 | jhutchins_lt | karika200: Those tools are the most capable. |
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| 17:48.53 | lvh | hey |
| 17:50.05 | lvh | i have a problem; both bluetooth-applet (part of gnome-bluetooth) and blueman find my phone, but network manager doesnt agree :( |
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| 17:50.24 | lvh | I see Wired Network, Wireless Networks, but no Mobile Broadbands. |
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| 17:51.17 | georgem | Does anyone know how updated x.org packages are installed while X is running? |
| 17:51.17 | EmleyMoor | lvh: I've never seen network manager get involved in that |
| 17:51.51 | lvh | EmleyMoor: Huh? |
| 17:52.06 | lvh | EmleyMoor: I'm certain this worked a month ago. |
| 17:52.55 | EmleyMoor | lvh: Maybe so. For mine, though, rfcomm and wvdial do all I need... |
| 17:53.34 | lvh | EmleyMoor: Got a link? |
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| 17:54.17 | nickaugust | ok so im trying to mount this usb hard drive and i do lsusb and i see it there.. now how do i tell what name it has in /dev? |
| 17:54.44 | nickaugust | /dev/sdb5 or something like that im assuming it is but how can i verify? |
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| 17:55.40 | jordanm | nickaugust: dmesg | tail |
| 17:55.56 | nickaugust | jordanm: thx :) |
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| 17:57.15 | nickaugust | [ 3516.027848] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 |
| 17:57.20 | nickaugust | so it put it at sg2? |
| 17:57.26 | EmleyMoor | lvh: Google for some - even a Ubuntu (spit!) centric one will do |
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| 18:03.09 | crab234 | nickaugust: no, it is not sg2 |
| 18:03.16 | zeeb | hola a todos como va? |
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| 18:03.58 | zeeb | crab234: hi |
| 18:04.31 | aguitel_ | que acce che |
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| 18:05.32 | zeeb | aguitel_: hola me podras ayudar en algo..? |
| 18:05.56 | aguitel_ | zeeb, si puedo |
| 18:06.31 | zeeb | gracias.. |
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| 18:07.01 | zeeb | aguitel_: soy novato, y algo entiendo pero poco... |
| 18:07.12 | aguitel_ | di que te pasa |
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| 18:07.41 | zeeb | aguitel_: estoy intentando actualizar de debian lenny a squeeze, pero he tenido muchos inconvenientes.. |
| 18:08.06 | aguitel_ | oye hay un tutorial aca en irc |
| 18:08.27 | zeeb | aguitel_: por ahora quisiera al menos actualizar el kernel,, y con lo que he leido no me ha alcanzado |
| 18:09.34 | jordanm | !es |
| 18:09.34 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat |
| 18:09.35 | aguitel_ | pon en el canal asi://msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
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| 18:12.18 | Karen_m | I am trying to install mumble, but it is forcing 'apache' on me when I've been using nginx |
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| 18:15.08 | zaira | the best www.daiana-sexy.blogspot.com click Hotel yellow letters you see my msn |
| 18:15.20 | d3x | wtf spam? |
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| 18:17.18 | komentarze_listy | :D! |
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| 18:17.41 | nickaugust | Spam is off topic on freenode. :) |
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| 18:20.51 | Karen_m | how do you prevent something from installing with aptitude? when I go to install mumble-server, it brings along mumble-server-web |
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| 18:21.13 | karlpinc | Karen_m: You probably want "aptitude -R ..." |
| 18:22.15 | karlpinc | !tell Karen_m about why recommends |
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| 18:23.58 | Karen_m | yes, merci |
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| 18:49.30 | wcs | hi people :D |
| 18:49.37 | jalalsfs | Hi |
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| 19:05.07 | nickaugust | i did chown -R nick:nick mydir/* and i still cant access the files. any ideas what im doing wrong? |
| 19:05.18 | nickaugust | i also did mydir and mydir/.* |
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| 19:07.06 | jordanm | nickaugust: what are the perms of mydir? |
| 19:07.45 | jordanm | doesn't matter who owns it if it has silly perms like 000 |
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| 19:08.55 | nickaugust | jordanm: nm i fixed it... had the group name wrong. thanks |
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| 19:26.02 | jonkri | how can i start my chrooted environments during startup? |
| 19:26.20 | jordanm | start? |
| 19:26.52 | jonkri | well, good point :) |
| 19:26.59 | jonkri | chroot into them and start a specific process :) |
| 19:27.12 | jordanm | ah, services started in the chroot |
| 19:27.17 | Vasistha | trying to figure out the route command. I am connected to the internet via a wireless gateway at 10.0.0.1, and I am also connected via cable to 192.168.1.1, but there is no internet there. I tried ``route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0'' but it's still not letting me ping 192.168.1.1. |
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| 19:28.34 | jordanm | Vasistha: that route should be added automatically, just from having an interface on that network |
| 19:28.37 | jonkri | jordanm: for example, if i want to run postfix in the chrooted environment, do i install and start it from the main system or do i install it into the chroot? |
| 19:28.39 | louitzi | Vasistha: you should add the gateway's |
| 19:28.49 | louitzi | ip address or exit interface |
| 19:29.11 | jordanm | Vasistha: you could try: route add -net 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0; if its trying to send traffic destined to the 10.0.0.0 network via wireless |
| 19:29.24 | Vasistha | jordanm: well, it did create one automatically, but it also created a default that preempted my internet connection. So I deleted the default, and it was working, but then the other entry disappeared :( |
| 19:29.29 | jordanm | louitzi: I thought that at first too, but he said that he has an interface on that network |
| 19:29.49 | jordanm | Vasistha: why would you delete the default route? |
| 19:30.02 | jordanm | Vasistha: the default route would only apply when no other routes are available |
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| 19:30.07 | Vasistha | jordanm: here, I'll make a couple pastebins |
| 19:30.10 | louitzi | if it's on the network with assigned ip address then ok |
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| 19:31.24 | acidgen | Missing the Makefile_32.cpu from kernel-headers, any ideas |
| 19:31.31 | ornia | Hi, I switched from 2.6.30 to 2.6.32 and did not heed the original warnings of UUID switches |
| 19:31.46 | ornia | Now all of a sudden my 1 parallel ATA drive has turned from /dev/hda to /dev/sda |
| 19:31.54 | ornia | Which messed up the root partition |
| 19:32.34 | jordanm | ornia: sounds like you know how to fix it |
| 19:33.00 | greycat | ornia: /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst (if you're in grub1, not grub2) |
| 19:33.15 | ornia | jordanm: Sounds like I don;t... which package prompted that automatic switch from device block file names to UUIDs |
| 19:33.30 | ornia | I want to dpkg-reconfigure it so Debian can handle that automagicallyt |
| 19:34.04 | greycat | jonkri: well, if the chroot has enough infrastructure to be able to install the package, you can install it inside. It's simpler that way. |
| 19:34.15 | greycat | jonkri: if it doesn't, then you'll have to arrange things by hand. |
| 19:34.19 | jordanm | ornia: I believe that script only runs when upgrading |
| 19:35.26 | Vasistha | jordanm, louitzi: http://paste.debian.net/80117/ |
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| 19:35.29 | ornia | jordanm: Updgrading what package? |
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| 19:36.51 | Vasistha | jordanm: it seemed like a good idea at the time? And it fixed my ability to access the internet? |
| 19:36.53 | jordanm | ornia: if I had to guess, I would say the kernel package, but I am really not sure |
| 19:37.05 | Vasistha | erm, oops, I was looking at an old quote. |
| 19:37.22 | greycat | does it matter which package issued the warning? fix whatever files need to be fixed. |
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| 19:37.42 | louitzi | Vasistha: add the route manually? |
| 19:37.43 | kwikness | Does anyone know where I can find the mysql conf file? |
| 19:37.53 | greycat | either in /etc or /etc/mysql |
| 19:38.09 | jordanm | Vasistha: looks like you acquired your IP via dhcp. is your eth0 still up? |
| 19:38.37 | jordanm | Vasistha: and what you want, if that is the case, is to edit dhclient.conf to not grab a route from dchp for eth0 |
| 19:38.57 | Vasistha | jordanm: no, both ips are static. And ifconfig seems to show eth0 is no longer up. |
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| 19:39.02 | kwikness | greycat, thanks |
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| 19:40.03 | jordanm | Vasistha: why did you add two default routes in the first place? |
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| 19:40.11 | Vasistha | jordanm: ifup did it |
| 19:40.31 | jordanm | Vasistha: ifup just applies your configuration in /etc/network/interfaces did |
| 19:40.38 | louitzi | jordanm: propably the router advertises as a default gateway |
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| 19:40.50 | jordanm | louitzi: right... if dhcp was used |
| 19:41.06 | Vasistha | jordanm: /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.debian.net/80119/ |
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| 19:41.34 | Vasistha | maybe my dhclient.conf is funky? |
| 19:41.39 | jordanm | Vasistha: gateway 192.168.1.1 remove it |
| 19:41.49 | Vasistha | jordanm: ah, okay |
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| 19:43.22 | Vasistha | jordanm: hey, that seems to have fixed me. Thanks very much! So that gateway line is instructing ifup to set this up as a default internet gateway? |
| 19:43.36 | jordanm | Vasistha: yep |
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| 20:03.41 | jonkri | how can i create s "system user", a user that i can use for a specific service that can't login or access much else |
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| 20:05.09 | greycat | Give it a 'shell' that's not really a shell. |
| 20:05.22 | greycat | And don't give it a password. |
| 20:05.26 | jonkri | ok |
| 20:05.34 | jonkri | should i use useradd? |
| 20:05.56 | greycat | I'd use vipw. |
| 20:06.12 | greycat | But then I'm old school... |
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| 20:07.49 | jonkri | greycat: do i have to ggive the user a home directory? |
| 20:08.15 | greycat | You have to put something there, yes. |
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| 20:08.52 | greycat | you don't necessarily have to *create* a directory for it. you just have to put something in the 6th field. |
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| 20:09.37 | bikcmp | Hi everyone, how would I manually set the time through ssh? |
| 20:09.37 | jonkri | i think i will use useradd, thanks |
| 20:09.50 | greycat | bikcmp: date, or rdate, or ntpdate |
| 20:10.04 | bikcmp | greycat: i haven't had much luck with date or ntpdate |
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| 20:10.44 | greycat | bikcmp: date --help | grep CC |
| 20:11.08 | jordanm | recalls a _ban evading_ spammer prefixing messages with "a message from bikcmp" |
| 20:11.20 | bikcmp | jordanm: yeah, spam happens, big deal |
| 20:11.33 | greycat | um. |
| 20:11.46 | bikcmp | greycat: I did date MMDD and stuff |
| 20:12.06 | greycat | Tell us exactly what you typed, and exactly what the error was. |
| 20:12.14 | bikcmp | [root@testvps ~]#date 07091606 |
| 20:12.14 | bikcmp | Fri Jul 9 16:06:00 EDT 2010 |
| 20:12.17 | bikcmp | it worked there. |
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| 20:12.28 | bikcmp | but, then when i did date again... it was back to normal. |
| 20:12.40 | bikcmp | I did -set too, and it complained about date: the argument `16:06:00' lacks a leading `+'; |
| 20:13.08 | jordanm | spam and evading bans are both against the channel rules. IIRC this particular case required abrotman to +b all web users |
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| 20:13.45 | bikcmp | jordanm: I'll tell you about it in PM, okay? |
| 20:13.54 | bikcmp | it's obviously a joe job attack. |
| 20:14.45 | bikcmp | greycat: any ideas? |
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| 20:15.11 | jordanm | right, which is why I really just wanted to hear "wasn't me" |
| 20:15.18 | greycat | bikcmp: perhaps you have an NTP daemon running which is overriding your settings...? |
| 20:15.20 | jordanm | you can pm, I am interested |
| 20:15.29 | bikcmp | sure, give me a sec. |
| 20:15.31 | bikcmp | greycat: I might. |
| 20:15.38 | bikcmp | I tried ntpdate |
| 20:15.46 | eryn_1983 | hey peeps i need help... |
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| 20:15.57 | greycat | bikcmp: pgrep ntp |
| 20:16.02 | eryn_1983 | um i need to recreat my pam.d/ directory |
| 20:16.10 | eryn_1983 | what package do i need to reinstall? |
| 20:17.26 | jordanm | eryn_1983: lots, depending on what you had installed in the first place |
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| 20:17.35 | jordanm | eryn_1983: apt-file search /etc/pam.d |
| 20:17.35 | bikcmp | greycat: it goes back. |
| 20:17.41 | bikcmp | [root@testvps ~]#date 07091606 |
| 20:17.42 | bikcmp | Fri Jul 9 16:06:00 EDT 2010 |
| 20:17.50 | bikcmp | and then when I do date again... |
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| 20:17.55 | bikcmp | Fri Jul 9 16:24:29 EDT 2010 |
| 20:18.45 | JyZyXEL | how do i set so that ntfs-3g is automatically used to mount ntfs partitions? |
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| 20:18.55 | workbench | just to let anyone know that if you had ordered or were waiting for Debian Systems 2nd editon published by Nostarch press.... it has been canceled:( |
| 20:19.07 | jordanm | JyZyXEL: /etc/fstab. use "ntfs-3g" as the filesystem type |
| 20:19.23 | JyZyXEL | jordanm: but when im doing a mount command |
| 20:19.29 | JyZyXEL | so i don't have to do -t ntfs-3g |
| 20:19.41 | greycat | JyZyXEL: man fstab |
| 20:20.10 | JyZyXEL | no i don't mean fstab |
| 20:20.18 | jordanm | JyZyXEL: you can use the ntfs-3g command instead of mount (same syntax), or noauto in fstab |
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| 20:20.19 | greycat | Yes you do. You just don't realize it yet. |
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| 20:20.24 | greycat | Despite two of us telling you.... |
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| 20:21.36 | eryn_1983 | ok jordanm that didnt work.. |
| 20:21.59 | eryn_1983 | i need to recreate my pam.d directory.. |
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| 20:22.03 | eryn_1983 | sigh |
| 20:23.13 | JyZyXEL | man mount talks about /proc/filesystems |
| 20:23.14 | jordanm | eryn_1983: that wasn't supossed to do anything other than show you all the packages that have files in that dir |
| 20:23.22 | JyZyXEL | so that the -t auto tries them in order |
| 20:23.33 | JyZyXEL | but i don't see ntfs in there at all |
| 20:23.51 | JyZyXEL | whats the name of the default ntfs filesystem module? |
| 20:23.52 | eryn_1983 | i knw that |
| 20:24.04 | eryn_1983 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:24.30 | jordanm | eryn_1983: its not unfeasible to restore from your most recent backup |
| 20:25.03 | eryn_1983 | yeah i had been meaning to fix that script.. |
| 20:25.06 | eryn_1983 | wait.... |
| 20:25.46 | eryn_1983 | lol |
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| 20:26.07 | eryn_1983 | oh come on its funny ... |
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| 20:29.56 | qkit | hi all. |
| 20:30.08 | MeglaW | hehe mitt pass får du inte. :) |
| 20:30.13 | qkit | hmm...in debian dont have the killall command? |
| 20:30.20 | MeglaW | eller jo |
| 20:30.27 | MeglaW | OOPS, sorry!, wrong window! |
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| 20:32.18 | sthon | is it possible to build a kernel module for a kernel I'm not currently booted into? |
| 20:32.31 | lindi- | sthon: sure |
| 20:32.48 | aptitudinal | I have to know, does aptitude have super cow powers? |
| 20:32.57 | sthon | lindi-: using module-assistant? |
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| 20:33.04 | lindi- | sthon: for example |
| 20:33.31 | greycat | aptitudinal: yes. But it takes more coaxing. |
| 20:33.58 | aptitudinal | coaxing? |
| 20:34.02 | greycat | more -v |
| 20:34.15 | aptitudinal | I'm afraid I don't followw |
| 20:34.19 | qkit | any one are using pure ftp with debian? |
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| 20:34.26 | greycat | aptitudinal: aptitude moo; aptitude -v moo; .... |
| 20:34.31 | aptitudinal | :S why would you use ftp? |
| 20:34.53 | aptitudinal | -v woud just be for more verbosity wouldn't it or would that be for versioning? |
| 20:35.03 | sthon | lindi-: for example? |
| 20:35.16 | greycat | aptitudinal: just TRY it. |
| 20:35.29 | qkit | it become very strange when i turn on pure-ftpd calluploadscript function, i will not be able to login to my ftp any more |
| 20:35.38 | aptitudinal | I can't for a moment, I'm doing a aptitude safe-upgrade right now |
| 20:35.40 | aptitudinal | it's almost done |
| 20:36.00 | qkit | but if i turn it off and all work find |
| 20:36.01 | sthon | lindi-: I'm booted into a backport 2.6.30 kernel but need to build drbd8-module for the stock 2.6.26 kernel |
| 20:36.12 | aptitudinal | I had to upgrade over 700 packages and install over 25 new |
| 20:36.21 | qkit | i have turn on the debug in the pureftp but still cant get any info from that |
| 20:36.25 | aptitudinal | been a long time since I had internet access |
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| 20:36.52 | d3x | safe-upgrade is for pussies. real debianers upgrade everyhing ;] |
| 20:37.38 | aptitudinal | I use sid and I used to always apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade....but I got tired of breaking it and having to fix it |
| 20:37.46 | jordanm | aptitudinal: sounds like an upgrade to a new release |
| 20:37.51 | jordanm | !tell aptitudinal about why aptitude |
| 20:38.00 | jordanm | or sid... |
| 20:38.27 | lindi- | sthon: man module-assistant, first line of synopsis has "-l kernel version"? |
| 20:39.05 | aptitudinal | jordanm: I stand by sid firmly, moreso than I would by other distros |
| 20:39.27 | sthon | lindi-: thanks, I didn't think it would be that simple, guess I should RTFM next time. |
| 20:39.43 | aptitudinal | even with breaking from time to time it's still more dedicated to the freedom movement and more secure and efficient than other systems |
| 20:40.20 | aptitudinal | but I have an old laptop with weird hardware, so part of the breaking is probably due to that |
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| 20:44.52 | jordanm | aptitudinal: not sure you can really call "sid" its own distro, nor do I think its more "dedicated to the freedom movement and more secure" than stable |
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| 20:45.44 | aptitudinal | stable is as old as parts of the kernel that are waiting to be deprecated |
| 20:46.13 | aptitudinal | I trust the debian programmers |
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| 20:58.08 | Tired | aptitudinal got me? |
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| 21:20.07 | mo_o | hey guys |
| 21:20.23 | mo_o | i set up a lenny as a testing system |
| 21:20.38 | MeglaW | gl! |
| 21:20.40 | mo_o | now i want to install the libann but not from the unstable repository but from source code |
| 21:20.55 | mo_o | hehe thx ;) |
| 21:21.16 | MeglaW | u got the source? |
| 21:21.17 | mo_o | i want that lib to be useable systemwide without any change in makefile and things like that |
| 21:21.31 | mo_o | but just copying it to /usr/lib doesnt work |
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| 21:21.39 | flaine | hey could someone help me out? I need 11 more cents to make a paypal purchase, could someone paypal me 11 cents? :) |
| 21:21.41 | MeglaW | nnaa u got to make it |
| 21:21.41 | mo_o | i also copied the headers to /usr/include |
| 21:21.52 | mo_o | yeah i build it |
| 21:22.03 | neilk | no panhandling |
| 21:22.09 | MeglaW | make install |
| 21:22.10 | MeglaW | ;) |
| 21:22.10 | d3x | beggars on #debian? ;) |
| 21:22.27 | flaine | I was just wondering if someone could find it in the goodness of their heart to help me out |
| 21:22.42 | d3x | flaine, i can see if i can afford it |
| 21:22.44 | mo_o | it doesnt have an install rule |
| 21:22.56 | mo_o | i just have the libann.a and some header files |
| 21:23.19 | MeglaW | ah, then i cant atleast, but be patient, someone will |
| 21:23.20 | MeglaW | . :) |
| 21:23.32 | neilk | mo_o, is the link failing or the compile? |
| 21:23.37 | neilk | you might need to install headers too |
| 21:23.39 | mo_o | the linking |
| 21:23.40 | neilk | oh you said you did |
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| 21:23.49 | mo_o | yeah i copied the headers to /usr/include |
| 21:23.57 | mo_o | and the libann.a to /usr/lib |
| 21:24.12 | mo_o | so everyhting should be in place except for something i forgot about |
| 21:24.48 | neilk | can you pastebin the make output? |
| 21:24.58 | rubin110 | Looking for tips or tricks to get symlinks working under a recent version of netatalk. |
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| 21:25.09 | mo_o | make of what? a program needing it? |
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| 21:25.27 | dob1 | hi, why if i try to install squid3 apt doesn't uninstall squid 2.x ? |
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| 21:25.45 | neilk | you said it won't compile from a makefile, right? |
| 21:25.46 | mo_o | dob1: b/c you didnt tell it too? |
| 21:26.02 | mo_o | neilk: no sure i want that |
| 21:26.15 | mo_o | i dont want to change makefiles etc to use another lib folder etc |
| 21:26.29 | neilk | right... well pastebin some sort of output showing the error, anyway |
| 21:26.35 | mo_o | i basically want that lib just to appear as a usual installed library |
| 21:27.15 | mo_o | well, the error is that it cant find some functions used |
| 21:27.36 | dob1 | mo_o: yes, but i was wondering if installing squid3 it will take care to move my configuration's files, cache etc from my 2.x installation, in this way seems not because it allows to keep the 2 versions together |
| 21:28.10 | dob1 | so it's not an upgrade.. |
| 21:28.40 | mo_o | well, if it'd be an upgrade, the packet would probably have the same name |
| 21:28.42 | Vasistha | so I have chronic difficulty connecting to wpa2 networks. Sometimes it connects, sometimes it doesn't. What can I do to make this more reliable? Currently I'm trying to connect to my own router that I can control... it worked once, and I was happy; then I disconnected and it will not reconnect. |
| 21:29.01 | mo_o | so i guess they can coexist |
| 21:29.30 | syn4pse | Vasistha you can use apps like kismet to retrieve the strengh of your signal, if it too weak update the router ( get some n-draft ) |
| 21:29.41 | mo_o | Vasistha: start wpa_supplicant in verbose and check whats happening |
| 21:29.42 | syn4pse | sometimes it helps to switch to an unused channel ( another freequenzy ) |
| 21:29.45 | d3x | Vasistha, yeah. erm... like... any details? how do you connect? how does it fail? |
| 21:29.51 | mo_o | neilk: http://codepad.org/Um5ScEyG |
| 21:29.55 | mo_o | it's something like that |
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| 21:31.05 | mo_o | so just that it apperently doesnt find the headers & lib etc |
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| 21:31.05 | mo_o | but they're in /usr/include and /usr/lib.... |
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| 21:32.21 | jordanm | Vasistha: dmesg will often have more info on that |
| 21:32.23 | neilk | i believe if it wasn't finding the headers/lib, it would say that |
| 21:32.33 | mo_o | well yeah |
| 21:32.52 | mo_o | otherwise it wouldnt say it's an undefined reference |
| 21:33.06 | mo_o | that's why i'm wondering what i forgot... |
| 21:33.34 | mo_o | b/c i thought throwing the lib to /usr/lib and the headers to /usr/include would be sufficient |
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| 21:36.09 | neilk | mo_o: it seems like it's likely to be a problem with the library or else your actual compile command. can you run 'readelf -s /usr/lib/libann.a | grep FUNC' and pastebin th at? |
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| 21:36.28 | mo_o | aaaahhh damn |
| 21:36.31 | mo_o | i'm an idiot |
| 21:36.37 | mo_o | sorry my bad... |
| 21:36.43 | neilk | heh :) |
| 21:36.47 | mo_o | copying is enough.... |
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| 21:37.18 | mo_o | i hate the feeling of searching for a solution for an hour and then seeing it right infront in a misspelling... |
| 21:37.19 | mo_o | arg |
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| 22:06.24 | jesselang | It doesn't look like the testing netinst rescue mode supports encrypted LVM filesystems. |
| 22:07.04 | jesselang | I tried the directions here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Rescue/Crypto But cryptsetup fails with exit code 234. Does anyone have any ideas? |
| 22:07.19 | jesselang | I couldn't get GRUB to install, which is why I'm trying to rescue. |
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| 22:08.43 | cast | does it print an error message |
| 22:08.55 | jesselang | cast, no. |
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| 22:08.57 | cast | what code path results in exit code 234? |
| 22:09.13 | cast | s/code path/condition/ |
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| 22:11.12 | jesselang | I'm going back into the install, and it looks like partman doesn't know that it's an encrypted partition. |
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| 22:21.04 | jesselang | I'm going to partition manually this time and see if I get better results. |
| 22:23.03 | moldovean | partman seems to be en issue on testing, maybe use lenny , and upgrade later |
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| 22:24.08 | jesselang | moldovean, that's just what I was hoping to avoid. :) |
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| 22:24.26 | jesselang | moldovean, I have friends who are from Moldova. |
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| 22:25.03 | moldovean | cool, why avoid lenny ? |
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| 22:26.19 | moldovean | see kmuto may do the trick ;) |
| 22:26.52 | jesselang | moldovean, because I didn't want to upgrade. :) |
| 22:27.04 | jesselang | I just want testing, quickest route there. |
| 22:27.43 | moldovean | so will stay for long on that issues , maybe days or more ... |
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| 22:30.22 | jesselang | Yes, that's wonderful. |
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| 22:31.23 | jordanm | jesselang: the quickest route probably wouldn't involve encrypted lvm |
| 22:31.39 | moldovean | jesselang, welcome to testing ;) |
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| 22:34.50 | tarkaram | !ping tarkaram |
| 22:34.50 | dpkg | tolls a 5-meter-bell over tarkaram's head |
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| 22:39.11 | jonkri | how can i launch a command as a specific (non-root) user in a chroot environment automatically upon startup? |
| 22:40.01 | rudi_s | jonkri: Add the necessary commands in /etc/rc.local (for example). |
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| 22:41.12 | jonkri | rudi_s: how can i chroot, change user and run a command from the same script? |
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| 22:41.44 | grul | igno, lägg på |
| 22:41.52 | igno | nä |
| 22:42.38 | rudi_s | jonkri: chroot /chroot/dir su -c command username (didn't try it). |
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| 22:46.11 | jonkri | rudi_s: apparantly the synopsis for chroot is "chroot NEWROOT [COMMAND...]"... so is there a command for "run as this user"? |
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| 22:46.44 | rudi_s | jonkri: That's what su is for. |
| 22:46.49 | rudi_s | But I'm no chroot expert. |
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| 22:48.26 | moldovean | jonkri, or use schroot, dchroot as your user |
| 22:49.11 | moldovean | apt-cache show dchroot / schroot |
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| 22:52.46 | jonkri | moldovean: what's the benefit from simply using chroot /chroot "su -c '/path/to/script.sh' user"? |
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| 22:54.10 | FabParma | system updates has installed w/o any reason and permission this kernel: "Linux 2.6.32-23-generic-pae"? In more I have 3GB of RAM, so I don't understand the reason to install it on my machine. I am sure that I am not intentionally installed this kernel. How its possible that its present on my PC? |
| 22:54.51 | lindi- | FabParma: that sounds like ubuntu? |
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| 22:55.16 | craigevil | its not debian |
| 22:56.43 | rhodan | FabParma: Without your permission? |
| 22:59.05 | rhodan | Also, I doubt that it happened without reason. Nothing dies. |
| 22:59.08 | rhodan | õ |
| 22:59.11 | rhodan | *o |
| 22:59.12 | jordanm | I would suspect ubuntu atleast makes the user click install or something. if not, another reason to use debian |
| 22:59.34 | rhodan | You did dist-upgrade? |
| 23:00.36 | moldovean | jonkri, don't using root user ? |
| 23:00.51 | jonkri | ok |
| 23:01.27 | rhodan | You tell the system to upgrade your kernel, then it upgrades your kernel, and then youâre getting mad at it for doing what you tell it. -generic-pae is perfectly reasonable for your architecture. |
| 23:01.54 | jordanm | !ubuntu |
| 23:01.54 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 23:03.22 | rhodan | Ubuntu is dying. Netcraft confirmed it today. Similar to debian, but not quite as dead. |
| 23:05.51 | psycobob | no one uses linux any more :( |
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| 23:06.12 | cast | they all use gnu/linux now |
| 23:06.18 | rhodan | Ubuntu tries to be similar to Debian®, but it is not in any way affiliated with Debian® or partners of Debian®. Only Debian® can offer you a full and high standard Debian Experience® (see <Why should I use Genuine Debian®?>). |
| 23:06.59 | jordanm | rhodan: I know your trolling, but the factoid is "why debian" |
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| 23:07.12 | psycobob | the ubuntu experiance i had sucked, but it was much better than the redhat experiance i had |
| 23:07.21 | rhodan | jordanm: There is one? |
| 23:07.30 | jordanm | !tell rhodan about why debian |
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| 23:07.53 | cast | psycobob: that time i got kicked in the leg sucked, but it was much better than that time i got kicked in the nuts |
| 23:07.55 | rhodan | Oh, cool, thank you. |
| 23:08.44 | jordanm | alright, how to add a qotd? |
| 23:08.50 | psycobob | cast: prehaps you should stop asking girls to kick you in the nuts |
| 23:09.06 | rhodan | Thatâs not Ubuntuâs fault. It was made for operating, not for being sucked. |
| 23:09.28 | psycobob | lol |
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| 23:10.31 | jonkri | moldovean: do the different chroots need to have different priorities? the chroots are totally independent and are not comparable to each other |
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| 23:11.31 | rhodan | jordanm: >your trolling |
| 23:11.49 | rhodan | 3/10 |
| 23:12.11 | zu22 | trying to restore grub after upgrade to windows 7, so far did: # mount /dev/sda5 /tmp/mnt, that is fine, next i try: # chroot /tmp/mnt , and it complains: # chroot: cannot execute command '/bin/bash' : Exec format error, both the debian live cd i am using and my root partition (/dev/sda5) are both x64 so i dont understand problem. how can i get grub restored? |
| 23:12.25 | moldovean | jonkri, why so, for my chroots are independent |
| 23:12.46 | rhodan | zu22: Are you trying to chroot into a Windows partition? |
| 23:12.55 | cast | zu22: you don't have to chroot to reinstall grub |
| 23:13.05 | cast | zu22: notice the grub installer will take a root option |
| 23:13.05 | rhodan | /goooood luck/ |
| 23:13.15 | jordanm | zu22: verify that they are both amd64 with the "file" command |
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| 23:13.39 | rhodan | Oh, my bad. |
| 23:13.52 | jordanm | well, you do have to chroot if you need to run update-grub, but that shouldn't be the case |
| 23:14.06 | jordanm | it can be ran after grub is restored and debian boots |
| 23:14.57 | rhodan | Or you can just use a magic GRUB live CD and use it to boot your system, then restore GRUB from inside your normal environment. |
| 23:15.03 | rhodan | That would be easiest IMO. |
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| 23:15.56 | zu22 | rhodan: no trying to chroot to my linux root partitioin (/dev/sda5 type ext3) |
| 23:16.10 | cast | grub-install --root-directory=DIR |
| 23:16.15 | zu22 | i must chroot into root partition to restore grub into the MBR |
| 23:16.16 | cast | [man grub-install] |
| 23:16.29 | moldovean | zu22, better ask #grub .. |
| 23:16.37 | zu22 | cast: so i can use grub-install if it exists on the debian live cd? hope so |
| 23:17.15 | zu22 | grub live cd |
| 23:17.19 | zu22 | wow very cool |
| 23:17.27 | zu22 | didnt even think that existed heh |
| 23:17.29 | rhodan | zu22: You donât even need to install it. |
| 23:17.41 | zu22 | rhodan: ok i will use grub live cd |
| 23:17.45 | rhodan | Just use the GRUB on the CD to boot Debian, then restore from there. |
| 23:17.53 | zu22 | rhodan: ok thanks |
| 23:17.59 | rhodan | Or restore the MBR backup you did. |
| 23:18.04 | rhodan | Or use mine. |
| 23:18.04 | Saar | anyone know what command will allow me to download a .deb package and all its dependencies so I can install it by hand? |
| 23:18.10 | zu22 | rhodan: heh |
| 23:18.22 | Saar | i.e. put on a usb stick and transfer to a laptop and install |
| 23:19.01 | moldovean | apt-zip |
| 23:19.06 | moldovean | !apt-zip |
| 23:19.06 | dpkg | Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout>. http://wiki.debian.org/AptZip |
| 23:19.16 | Saar | thanks |
| 23:19.21 | rhodan | --print-uris |
| 23:19.27 | rhodan | Oops. |
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| 23:24.55 | zu22 | i just installed new hard disk (sata 500gb) and what is next steps to get it working? |
| 23:25.06 | zu22 | i already have 500gb sata which is my disk i use now |
| 23:25.11 | zu22 | this will be 2nd hard drive |
| 23:25.19 | zu22 | it is unformatted |
| 23:25.51 | jordanm | zu22: format, write filesystem, make fstab entry |
| 23:26.01 | zu22 | ok |
| 23:26.05 | zu22 | what is name ofthe device |
| 23:26.10 | zu22 | if my current one is /dev/sda |
| 23:26.14 | zu22 | will it be /dev/sdb? |
| 23:26.34 | rhodan | jordanm: Whatâs the difference between âformatâ and âwrite filesystemâ? |
| 23:26.36 | jordanm | zu22: most likely, you can use fdisk -l to get a list of drives |
| 23:26.48 | jonkri | moldovean: what does priority do? |
| 23:27.00 | jordanm | rhodan: nothing, I meant partition, format |
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| 23:27.58 | moldovean | jonkri, never seen 'priority' for chroot .. |
| 23:28.08 | moldovean | s |
| 23:28.11 | jonkri | moldovean: i'm talking about schroot |
| 23:28.21 | jonkri | i think schroot is overkill |
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| 23:28.31 | jonkri | this is for rc.local, so being root is not a problem |
| 23:28.59 | jordanm | zu22: cfdisk /dev/sdb; mke2fs -j /dev/sdb (assuming sdb) |
| 23:29.16 | moldovean | jonkri, it's your setup ... do as you like |
| 23:29.24 | zu22 | jordanm: cool, will that install ext4 fs? |
| 23:30.00 | jordanm | zu22: no, are you running testing/unstable? |
| 23:30.05 | moldovean | zu22, in lenny no |
| 23:30.43 | zu22 | jordanm: squeeze |
| 23:31.07 | zu22 | so yes "testing/unstable" |
| 23:31.14 | zu22 | i guess it will make ext3 fs? |
| 23:31.23 | jordanm | zu22: mkfs.ext4; man mkfs |
| 23:31.24 | jordanm | yes |
| 23:32.00 | zu22 | jordanm: awesome, thx for help, i plan to run debian sid on new hard disk for more fun :D |
| 23:34.01 | jordanm | zu22: if fun is what you call it :) |
| 23:34.10 | zu22 | jordanm: hehe |
| 23:34.34 | zu22 | jordanm: i find a learn a lot by debugging issues in sid (at least i did when i ran it a few years ago) |
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| 23:35.33 | jordanm | I learned a lot by running gentoo, but I didn't get much else done |
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| 23:36.46 | zu22 | jordanm: oh i see, heh |
| 23:37.16 | cast | i can't say i learned anything from gentoo, other than that there's a large number of gnu/linux using ricers |
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| 23:37.46 | MindVirus | How do I view all packages not depended upon by another package? |
| 23:37.48 | jordanm | hehe |
| 23:38.07 | jordanm | it was my first kernel compile, first chroot, etc during the install... |
| 23:38.12 | cast | running released versions of debian you often end up compiling things manually, |
| 23:38.39 | cast | jordanm: often my debian installs go like that....debootstrap is awesome! |
| 23:38.57 | cast | jordanm: i do wish debian had kept the base system tarballs, but oh well |
| 23:39.16 | jordanm | cast: you can make one with pbuilder |
| 23:39.22 | cast | gentoo did have a very nice livecd |
| 23:39.43 | jordanm | don't know if it would be useful for installation though |
| 23:39.54 | zu22 | cast: lol |
| 23:40.06 | zu22 | jordanm: ah :) |
| 23:40.11 | jordanm | MindVirus: I will take that challenge |
| 23:40.17 | cast | jordanm: uh...pbuilder is something else |
| 23:40.22 | MindVirus | jordanm: I'm writing a script as we speak. |
| 23:40.27 | MindVirus | But it's definitely not efficient. |
| 23:40.47 | jordanm | cast: its typically for building packages in a clean chroot, but pbuilder create makes a base tarball |
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| 23:41.10 | cast | jordanm: debian used to distribute a tarball, that was your base system, same as the gentoo install method. now theres just debootstrap |
| 23:41.23 | cast | jordanm: ahh. |
| 23:41.31 | zu22 | jordanm: didn't know that, cool |
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| 23:42.05 | cast | looks like pbuilder might use debootstrap |
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| 23:42.22 | jordanm | it does, or cdebootstrap |
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| 23:42.54 | zu22 | i want to learn that next, how to make my own debian packages |
| 23:42.59 | zu22 | i have a game i wish to distribute |
| 23:43.00 | jordanm | !nmg |
| 23:43.00 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 23:43.08 | cast | nmg is pretty good |
| 23:43.08 | zu22 | jordanm: thanks |
| 23:43.20 | zu22 | cast: ok great |
| 23:43.29 | jordanm | what kind of game? |
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| 23:43.44 | zu22 | jordanm: i am just one developer, very old game called Netrek (www.netrek.org) :) |
| 23:44.15 | zu22 | in late 80s and 90s it was very popular but now not so much :( |
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| 23:47.20 | Luigigall | hello |
| 23:47.24 | Luigigall | !list |
| 23:47.25 | dpkg | luigigall: VATTENE VIA |
| 23:47.29 | Luigigall | ok |
| 23:48.12 | MindVirus | Luigigall: FreeNode is not the place for file-sharing. |
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| 23:48.28 | MindVirus | Try Rizon. |
| 23:48.28 | nsadmin | Luigigall: what do you want |
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| 23:50.32 | nsadmin | MindVirus: actually files are shared all the time here... at packages.debian.org |
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| 23:50.55 | MindVirus | nsadmin: You are a wiseass. |
| 23:51.21 | nsadmin | what gave you the first clue? |
| 23:51.57 | crab234 | how do I list files and directories recursively, and print them in a hierarchy format? |
| 23:52.04 | MindVirus | My lack of an erection in response to your statement. |
| 23:52.33 | crab234 | like /dir1 /dir1/file1 /dir1/file2 ... |
| 23:52.39 | nsadmin | man, already you're telling me your problems... |
| 23:53.01 | MindVirus | nsadmin: Not like you don't want to know. |
| 23:53.29 | nsadmin | crab234. try find . |
| 23:53.39 | peterrooney | crab234: ls -R might work, or more simple-mindedly, find ${dir} | sort |
| 23:54.18 | nsadmin | what order would sorting give you? |
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| 23:55.57 | crab234 | both command works.... thank you! |
| 23:56.00 | syn4pse | crab234 man tree |
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| 23:56.03 | syn4pse | also works |
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| 23:58.32 | jordanm | MindVirus: I think I have it |
| 23:58.54 | MindVirus | jordanm: Dinner is calling. :( |
| 23:59.55 | jordanm | MindVirus: not fast however... make a package list with: aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > tmpfile; then this should do it: while read -r line; do if ! aptitude why "$line" > /dev/null; then echo $line; fi; done < tmpfile |
