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| 00:21.18 | woalop | got this: Current contents of '~/.hplip/hplip.conf' file: |
| 00:21.20 | woalop | error: Could not access file: No such file or directory |
| 00:21.22 | woalop | after I purge and re-install hplip. How to gen the .conf? |
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| 00:21.42 | psycobob | touch ~/.hplip/hplip.conf |
| 00:21.44 | psycobob | ? |
| 00:21.48 | psycobob | at a guess |
| 00:21.51 | psycobob | maybe |
| 00:21.56 | psycobob | could be |
| 00:22.12 | psycobob | might have to 'mkdir ~/.hplip' first ? |
| 00:22.47 | craigevil | !confmiss |
| 00:22.47 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
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| 00:23.45 | wagle | has anyone gotten flash to work on a amd64 system? i follow the instructions, and nada |
| 00:24.14 | wagle | oh, debian lenny |
| 00:25.04 | wagle | was working until the deinstall went around a couple weeks ago |
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| 00:29.54 | woalop | craigevil: do i have to re-start the system, after i did the confmiss, hp-check still shows the error. |
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| 00:30.44 | craigevil | shouldnt have to restart, make sure your user is a member of the lp group |
| 00:31.02 | woalop | ok, will check now. |
| 00:31.56 | woalop | seems ok. |
| 00:33.52 | woalop | craigevil: the file is there, but its 0 byte. |
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| 00:47.15 | ZenWalker | how change full screen to windowed on blender? |
| 00:48.00 | leafwiz | pflanze, http://linuxaleph.blogspot.com/2008/11/mapping-middle-click-to-keyboard-key.html |
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| 00:49.15 | pflanze | leafwiz: is this an alternative to your former approach? |
| 00:49.22 | leafwiz | pflanze, yes |
| 00:49.34 | pflanze | sounds good, since the other approach didn't seem to work consistently |
| 00:49.51 | Guest73331 | why am I having trouble installing libapache2-mod-php5? I do "sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5" and all it does is say no packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
| 00:50.08 | bzed | Guest73331: then it is installed. |
| 00:50.09 | leafwiz | pflanze, no. This first enables the mousekeys in x, and then you can map the mousekey to something |
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| 00:50.50 | Guest73331 | bzed, I don't think so because when i do php -v it says command not found |
| 00:51.00 | Guest73331 | doesn't show the version |
| 00:51.15 | bzed | Guest73331: thats the php cli you're trying to run, not the apache module. |
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| 00:51.32 | bzed | Guest73331: the apache module has nothing to do with the cli except that they share some libraries |
| 00:51.40 | bzed | Guest73331: you want to install php5-cli |
| 00:51.44 | Guest73331 | well i installed php before with aptitude as well |
| 00:52.12 | Guest73331 | i did sudo aptitude install php5 before, the php -v command won't work if I have it installed? |
| 00:52.34 | pflanze | leafwiz: Well one problem is also that I've got two nice rows of keys on the left side of my keyboard that I'd really like to rebind, especially "Search", but that key issues keycode 115 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch) then keycode 41 (keysym 0x66, f), no idea what to do with that :/ |
| 00:52.36 | bzed | Guest73331: the php5 package does not depend on the cli. |
| 00:53.38 | bzed | !tell Guest73331 about search |
| 00:53.48 | Guest73331 | if I have php commands on my html page, all I need is php5 installed and the libapache2-mod-php5 right? |
| 00:54.13 | bzed | Guest73331: if you use apache as your webserve,r all you need is libapache2-mod-php5 - not the cli, nothing else |
| 00:54.20 | leafwiz | pflanze, huh? when you press it it generates two keycodes ? |
| 00:54.26 | pflanze | yep |
| 00:54.47 | leafwiz | pflanze, strange... You could try to just map it to the one keycode |
| 00:54.54 | pflanze | same for cut, copy, paste keys, they really send control and x c v |
| 00:55.17 | leafwiz | xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = Pointer_Button2" |
| 00:55.24 | pflanze | well, which one :D. I did with the f, no joy of course. |
| 00:55.36 | pflanze | hitting just f will then give button2 |
| 00:55.49 | Guest73331 | bzed, ok, but how can I check if I have that installed I never installed it manually and when i do find libapache2-mod-php5, it says no file or directory found |
| 00:55.58 | pflanze | and I guess rebinding mode switch is not a good idea either. |
| 00:56.09 | bzed | Guest73331: man dpkg |
| 00:56.16 | bzed | Guest73331: the dpkg manpage tell you how :) |
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| 00:56.23 | test0 | hi. i've been using some programs (samhain, ntop, atop, snort, tiger, rkhunter, and a few others) that use alot of resources at some point. is there any way that i can make them use less resources and make them do their job in a longer time, instead of killing my hdd and cpu? for example when samhain starts at boot, it takes about 20 minutes to scan everything and send mails to root, but it also makes the sistem almost freeze. i'd liek to make it run in say, 1 |
| 00:56.24 | test0 | -2 hours to finish the scan an run at a lower priority. i'd also need to know how to make this in a permanent way. (sory for long line/s) |
| 00:56.51 | bzed | Guest73331: also you could use have a look into the apache configuration |
| 00:57.10 | bzed | Guest73331: hint: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and /etc/apache2/mods-available |
| 00:57.14 | Guest73331 | bzed, ohh, let me take a look |
| 00:57.17 | Guest73331 | thanks |
| 00:57.32 | leafwiz | pflanze, What normaly happens with mode_switch? |
| 00:57.34 | pflanze | test0: check "ionice". Although I haven't had much success with it. |
| 00:57.40 | pflanze | leafwiz: dunno. |
| 00:58.10 | leafwiz | pflanze, what happens when you bind pointer button up to it? |
| 00:58.18 | bzed | Guest73331: also if you really typed 'find libapach2-mod-php5' into a console, you want to read the manpage of find. and the manpage of locate. |
| 00:58.30 | bzed | (assumind you have mlocate or similar tools installed) |
| 00:58.37 | pflanze | I'd rather not try right now because I've got much stuff open so I'd like to avoid having to loose control. |
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| 00:59.25 | Guest73331 | bzed, yeah, I'm pretty new, got everything up, but I'm getting: Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_header() in /var/www/index.php on line 1, when I try to access the site externally, so I'm guessing it's issue with php |
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| 01:00.10 | leafwiz | pflanze, Understandable. |
| 01:00.13 | pflanze | test0: in programs I wrote myself, I had some success by inserting short sleeps every couple accesses, so you might ask the developers of those tools whether they offer the same |
| 01:01.49 | pflanze | leafwiz: I'm checking the manual of the keyboard whether that can be changed somehow. Or ask the manufacturer. Anyway, even aside this issue the mouse2 didn't work reliably, so I'm happy for the alternative. |
| 01:02.06 | pflanze | I'll check it in a moment. |
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| 01:03.46 | woalop | Under printer admin, i find two printers of diff driver, one hpijs and another hpcups. which is the right one? |
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| 01:04.50 | test0 | pflanze, so i might have some chance if i modify the cron script(s), take samhain as example, and add nice and ionice to them? will this make samhain do it's checks in a longer time but with less resources? asking just to be sure. :D |
| 01:05.20 | pflanze | test0: it is supposed to do that, but as I said it didn't really change anything in my tests. |
| 01:05.44 | pflanze | check "man ionice", also I think it depends on the filesystem or scheduler settings, may need tweaking. |
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| 01:06.09 | craigevil | test0: change the cron jobs for a time when you aren't using the pc |
| 01:06.13 | pflanze | (sorry, not filesystem, block device settings; I think the io scheduler settings are per block device or something) |
| 01:07.48 | pflanze | I'd really suggest asking on the mailing list of some of those projects. |
| 01:09.38 | pflanze | Possibly ionice would work better on solid state disks (no slow head motions). |
| 01:09.53 | test0 | some processes almost kill my system regardless of time. around 01:10am some process uses all the memory and it still asks for more, and that causes many other processes be killed |
| 01:10.00 | Black_Phantom | I want to report a spelling mistake in dpkh |
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| 01:10.03 | Black_Phantom | dpkg** lol |
| 01:10.17 | Black_Phantom | typing error |
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| 01:10.43 | pflanze | test0: aha, then your system is swapping. Buying more memory will help (or somehow making the programs use less memory); |
| 01:11.02 | test0 | yet, it has alot of swap that is not used at all. |
| 01:11.08 | pflanze | test0: also don't run the programs in parallel, change the cron times. |
| 01:11.23 | pflanze | test0: that doesn't make it any faster :) |
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| 01:11.39 | pflanze | swap is so it doesn't *crash* the programs because of missing memory, not to make them faster |
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| 01:12.48 | pflanze | As long as you're swapping heavily, nothing else (like nice, ionice, sleeps) will help |
| 01:13.00 | test0 | the cron times are the default ones, didn't changed anything in them. |
| 01:13.11 | pflanze | and how many processes are being run at the same time? |
| 01:13.54 | pflanze | The defaults *are* usually all at the same time (usually in the early morning). |
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| 01:14.26 | indrora | Anyone gotten Jabber2-muc working? I'm beating my skull against its configuration. |
| 01:15.14 | pflanze | test0 Although I've got to admit that I think I've never changed the cron times, only moved daily jobs to weekly. |
| 01:15.27 | test0 | pflanze, not that many actually, it happend twice already, while the system was supposed to be idle. runing gnome with some panel applets and some idle programs, xchat rhythmbox iceweasel and perhaps some other, while the session was locked with the screensaver. in the morning gnome was gone. |
| 01:16.56 | pflanze | test0: first find out whether anacron or cron is running your jobs; cron runs them at a precise time of day, anacron runs them some time after switching on the computer. |
| 01:17.33 | pflanze | It sounds like you're running anacron. |
| 01:18.13 | pflanze | dpkg -l anacron #although I'm not sure whether having that installed already means it's the one active |
| 01:18.13 | dpkg | ii anacron #although I'm not sure whether having that installed already means it's the one active 2.7-13.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 01:18.27 | test0 | :) |
| 01:18.37 | pflanze | ehr, I entered "dpkg -l anacron #although I'm not sure whether having that installed already means it's the one active" |
| 01:18.47 | test0 | i get the idea |
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| 01:21.50 | test0 | well, anacron is installed. i suppose that samhain for example is run by anacron, as it is run after boot, and the daily/weekly/whatever run by cron. |
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| 01:24.03 | pflanze | I think the daily/weekly stuff is run by anacron as well; anacron just remembers whether it has been run already. |
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| 01:24.17 | pflanze | Instead of using a fixed time. |
| 01:25.08 | pflanze | test0: you should really figure out whether multiple memory-hungry programs are being run in parallel; if so, find a way to make them run in series only. |
| 01:26.02 | pflanze | Also, consider lowering your general RAM usage, at least while those programs are running (for example quit the browser after surfing). |
| 01:26.15 | test0 | i see. it should be done as default, since i never changed a thing in the (a)cron scripts. now, how do i check that? |
| 01:27.21 | wagle | i rarely see iceweasel return more than 1G of ram on a 4G system when exiting |
| 01:29.19 | wagle | often only half the 4G is even in use |
| 01:30.11 | test0 | well i usually close everything and leave only xchat and rhythmbox open at night, and perhaps i should recheck the logs to find out what killed gnome at that point (though might be kinda difficult since it's the first time to do this), when it happend i forgot them open, but yet, there is enough swap space, it shouldn't have been killed. |
| 01:30.27 | pflanze | test0: run "top" while your system is breathing heavily, and press the keys "-" and "M" to sort by memory usage |
| 01:30.53 | pflanze | I guess you didn't actually have enough swap and the kernel killed X |
| 01:31.23 | pflanze | This is the Linux "out of memory killer". |
| 01:31.45 | wagle | test0 i dont see you say how much memory you have in the scrollback |
| 01:31.59 | pflanze | he didn't say yet |
| 01:32.47 | test0 | odd thing is that at some point only ~400M of ram is used and ~500M swap, but never swa the swap partition full. it's 3G swap space as i will be adding more ram later and will want to hibernate. atm only 512M ram... |
| 01:32.47 | test0 | s/swa/saw |
| 01:32.56 | pflanze | 512M ram is really too little for more intensive computer use nowadays |
| 01:32.58 | wagle | 512 is small, but shouldnt confuse the kernel |
| 01:33.18 | pflanze | wagle: run a couple ram heavy batch jobs and you will "confuse" it. |
| 01:33.33 | wagle | or maybe that was 2-5 years ago |
| 01:33.36 | test0 | it had enough swap, it shouldn't have died. or it should? |
| 01:33.46 | pflanze | 3 |
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| 01:34.04 | pflanze | G swap should be enough to swap almost forever before running out of memory. |
| 01:34.05 | wagle | might refuse to use swap for some things.. avoiding trashing, or something |
| 01:34.07 | zebradog | pflanze, 256 is actually more than enough, most people just use a webbrowser email and thats about it |
| 01:34.16 | pflanze | test0 But then I don't know how long your machine swapped. |
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| 01:34.39 | pflanze | zebradog: I said, more intensive use, and if you run samhain and more then you could run out quickly. |
| 01:36.06 | zebradog | pflanze, well you said nowadays.. which means general |
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| 01:36.55 | zebradog | i've yet to find a reason for going more than 512 mb for linux.. and for general use.. |
| 01:37.06 | wagle | my iceweasel is currently pinned doing a bookmark sync/download, and is using 33% of my 2 G swap on a 4G system |
| 01:37.14 | zebradog | thinks 512 mb is good enough for the next 20 years |
| 01:37.23 | test0 | actually i don't think it was samhain at that hour, it only uses the hdd for about 20 minutes after boot, and hangs the system for that, perhaps rkhunter or tiger where running when gnome died. |
| 01:37.24 | pflanze | Whatever. |
| 01:38.52 | test0 | i wonder if atop would give some answers regarding what process was running at that hour. |
| 01:39.22 | jhutchins_lt | wagle: What version of iceweasel are you running? |
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| 01:40.18 | wagle | ok.. i just watched iceweasel (3.0) return 3G of memory (but non of the swap) when I exited just now after it finished 70 of bookmark crunching) |
| 01:40.36 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions iceweasel |
| 01:40.38 | judd | iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.10-1~bpo50+1; sid: 3.5.10-1; squeeze: 3.5.10-1; experimental: 3.6.4-1 |
| 01:40.51 | wagle | 3.0.6-3 |
| 01:41.35 | jhutchins_lt | wagle: I can HIGHLY recommend 3.5.10 from backports. 3.5.8 would often take up 60% or more of my CPU, with 3.5.10 it's negligible. |
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| 01:42.08 | wagle | the bookmark editor in 3.0 doesn't change the size of the window when you scroll, unlike ff 3.5 and 3.6 |
| 01:42.36 | wagle | i often have minutes of 100% cpu (fortunately, I have 2 cpus) |
| 01:43.12 | wagle | but i should try backports to see if they happened to fix that? |
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| 01:43.40 | jhutchins_lt | wagle: Well, you can allways roll back. |
| 01:43.53 | wagle | yeah |
| 01:44.35 | test0 | now, what would be the best place to look for the program that made the system hang? i looked in syslog and have a lot of lines to check, but what other log file might have info regarding this issue? |
| 01:44.55 | wagle | i watch syslog, messages, and daemon |
| 01:45.30 | wagle | daemon.log |
| 01:45.54 | wagle | dont remember which i see oom messages.. generally dont get them |
| 01:46.21 | test0 | i saw some in syslog, if i saw right. |
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| 01:48.29 | test0 | darn selinux, makes reading logs so difficult |
| 01:51.16 | wagle | hmm.. it claims i have backports enabled, but i dont see the backports iceweasel listed.. what am i not doing? |
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| 01:51.54 | moldovean | , versions iceweasel |
| 01:51.55 | judd | iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.10-1~bpo50+1; sid: 3.5.10-1; squeeze: 3.5.10-1; experimental: 3.6.4-1 |
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| 01:52.25 | jhutchins_lt | wagle: aptitude install -t lenny-backports iceweasel |
| 01:54.18 | wagle | i saw it listed in synaptic once, but i did something to turn backports off, but now backports seems to be on.. huh |
| 01:54.35 | wagle | yow.. no unrolling this |
| 01:55.06 | wagle | it updated gobs of packages |
| 01:55.07 | test0 | while reading i thought tiger was the bad one, but i see this: Jul 11 01:09:55 flik kernel: [27409.527278] ntop invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200da, order=0, oom_adj=0 |
| 01:55.13 | wagle | har har |
| 01:55.23 | test0 | so i guess it was ntop that made the things go fubar. |
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| 01:57.05 | jhutchins_lt | Blast, I'm back to getting seek errors on the (empty) dvd drive. |
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| 01:58.12 | wagle | darn.. iceweasel picked up the bug |
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| 02:05.02 | wagle | ntop is just the one with the problem |
| 02:05.04 | woalop | hp-check flag 4 missing python extensions even after i have removed and re-installed hplip. are these extensions important? my printer prints blank sheet. |
| 02:06.07 | wagle | the oom-killer is often consider broken by people who think about it hard.. but dunno if anyone's solved it for everyone |
| 02:07.02 | venger | I would like to see a fix to grub2 backported to lucid: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/563895. I am not sure if it is proper to say backport when lucid is the latest release and also the package is listed as grub2 (1.98+20100702-1) unstable. Would I be wasting my time requesting it as it listed as "unstable"? |
| 02:07.33 | wagle | so, i guess the message is that you shouldnt expect it (oom killer) to make complete sense |
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| 02:10.28 | test0 | !ubuntu venger |
| 02:10.28 | dpkg | venger: Please take your Ubuntu question to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net as they are able to help you much better with Ubuntu questions than #debian. Ubuntu can be quite different from Debian, #debian is not just a version of #ubuntu for advanced Ubuntu users. |
| 02:10.46 | venger | my bad :) |
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| 02:11.01 | moldovean | venger, install debian |
| 02:11.06 | test0 | :)) |
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| 02:13.43 | moldovean | EagleWatch, salutari |
| 02:14.35 | wagle | if i follow the instructions on http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer to get flash to work, I get: $ iceweasel |
| 02:14.36 | wagle | LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so [/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32] |
| 02:14.57 | wagle | anyone have a fix for the fix? |
| 02:15.46 | jhutchins_lt | wagle: I'm seeing a vision ... it's coming in clearer ... you are running a 64B KERNEL! |
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| 02:16.41 | moldovean | heh . |
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| 02:18.20 | test0 | salutÄ pe moldovean, cu întârziere, Èi se ascunde |
| 02:18.32 | wagle | uh.. the fix is for "amd64" |
| 02:18.44 | moldovean | la fel |
| 02:19.02 | jhutchins_lt | wagle: So do you kindof get that you're trying to run 32b flash on a 64b system? |
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| 02:19.41 | wagle | yeah, thats the fix, run the 32b binary on a 64 bit machine.. try reading the url |
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| 02:20.07 | jhutchins_lt | ELFCLASS32? |
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| 02:20.39 | wagle | you can run 32 bit binaries on 64 bit machines if you have the libs setup right, etc |
| 02:21.12 | jhutchins_lt | Ok, well, you seem to know what you're doing then, I'm still on 32b hardware so I'll leave you to it. |
| 02:21.18 | wagle | so the question is "what did the fix leave out?", not "can this even work?" |
| 02:21.33 | jhutchins_lt | Given that two different fixes are given in the document... |
| 02:21.42 | wagle | one for amd64 |
| 02:21.52 | test0 | i wonder if flashplayer-mozilla from debian-multimedia is doing all the things needed to be run on amd64 |
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| 02:23.43 | jhutchins_lt | test0: The problem is that adobe pulled the 64b linux version. |
| 02:23.54 | test0 | wagle, i use a chroot sometimes. might be trickky to make the osund work, if ever (i have no sound in chroot), but for accessing some pages is ok. |
| 02:24.10 | test0 | jhujhiti, i know. i have to deal with that too |
| 02:24.30 | jhutchins_lt | The options are to kludge the 32b version or to install the older (vulnerable) 64b version if you can find it. |
| 02:24.41 | mmnicolas | i need something to chew on, whats the new hype these days ? after big hits like GNU Screen i wonder what could be as awesome as this |
| 02:25.44 | wagle | is just hoping to find someone who has gotten it to work |
| 02:26.09 | mmnicolas | im running a 64 bit debian |
| 02:26.14 | mmnicolas | with flashplayer |
| 02:26.22 | mmnicolas | seems to work fine |
| 02:26.34 | wagle | mmnicolas: how'd you do it? |
| 02:26.48 | mmnicolas | i did not do much |
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| 02:26.54 | mmnicolas | it just did not break |
| 02:26.57 | test0 | erm, jhutchins_lt |
| 02:27.02 | mmnicolas | you're using lenny right ? |
| 02:27.15 | wagle | my ubuntu works fine.. lenny, no |
| 02:27.22 | jhutchins_lt | You guys help wagle then. |
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| 02:27.54 | mmnicolas | seems its only become unavailable to lenny |
| 02:28.00 | jhutchins_lt | Frankly, I just installed the ubuntu .deb. |
| 02:28.01 | test0 | really needs to get some cofee. |
| 02:28.18 | wagle | ah ha.. there's a nice hack |
| 02:28.24 | mmnicolas | i'd just grab it from squeeze if i were you |
| 02:28.33 | wagle | sure |
| 02:29.12 | mmnicolas | let me guess you just updated your system and it removed your working flashplayer ? |
| 02:29.12 | jhutchins_lt | mmnicolas: VERY bad practice to mix releases, actually better in this one case to mix distros. |
| 02:29.31 | mmnicolas | jhutchins_lt: lol, better ?! |
| 02:29.36 | test0 | the amd64 flash was removed from the adobe's repos. the flashplugin-nonfree shouldn't work no matter lenny/squeeze/sid, as it was just pulling the package from the adobe's repo. |
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| 02:30.12 | mmnicolas | your're right, the package is just an installer |
| 02:30.41 | mmnicolas | but at least, in squeeze, a dist-upgrade did not mess up my flashplayer |
| 02:31.00 | wagle | how old is your plugin? |
| 02:31.31 | mmnicolas | 10.0 r45 |
| 02:32.28 | mmnicolas | if thats what you meant |
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| 02:32.41 | moldovean | wagle, flashplugin-nonfree --version , says ? |
| 02:33.02 | test0 | well, from my point of view, flash should die. on some pages almost fries my cpu, no mater if i use the x64 or x32 one. |
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| 02:33.45 | wagle | (2:10.1.53.64.1) |
| 02:34.09 | wagle | jobs dissed it, and adobe got back by doing this, i guess |
| 02:35.47 | moldovean | wagle, file /usr/lib/epiphany-gecko/2.22/plugins/libflashplayer.so , says ? |
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| 02:36.30 | moldovean | or file /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libflashplayer.so |
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| 02:36.58 | wagle | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11787664 2010-07-10 19:33 /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
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| 02:37.21 | moldovean | wagle, i said "file blablah" |
| 02:37.22 | wagle | (4 minutes ago.. whats the mod time on yours?) |
| 02:37.37 | k\t | why not just use /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins? |
| 02:37.47 | wagle | /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped |
| 02:37.55 | wagle | i use whatever it decides |
| 02:38.09 | k\t | oh |
| 02:38.14 | moldovean | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.40 | wagle | yeah.. you? you musta not installed the thing that uninstalled it a couple weeks ago |
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| 02:39.28 | wagle | i tried a hack that was supposed to get the 32 bit version working, but it doesnt work |
| 02:39.29 | test0 | wagle, i guess you're using nspluginwrapper? or you're on a i386 machine? |
| 02:39.49 | test0 | erm, so is not working. |
| 02:40.01 | wagle | ah.. nspluginwrapper.. /me goes looking for that |
| 02:40.11 | wagle | 64 bit machine |
| 02:41.13 | test0 | wagle, if you really need flash, try to use flashplayer-mozilla from debian-multimedia. i'd give it a try, but have some other things to do yet |
| 02:42.02 | test0 | i see that it already pulls in the things it needs and should install the working 32bit flash, though i have no idea if will work or not... |
| 02:43.26 | wagle | i had nspluginwrapper installed |
| 02:43.40 | mmnicolas | just download the package from the adobe web page |
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| 02:45.24 | seeker7 | ok i had to put lenny in a new box and so my video screen only has 800X600 |
| 02:46.07 | moldovean | run , X -configure :1 , to generate new xorg, test it |
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| 02:51.52 | moldovean | !xrandr |
| 02:51.52 | dpkg | somebody said xrandr was a command-line interface to the <RandR> extension; used to set the screen size, orientation and/or reflection. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
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| 02:58.09 | wagle | is trying a bunch of things |
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| 02:58.51 | moldovean | wagle install 32 bit .. |
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| 03:03.08 | wagle | !flash |
| 03:03.08 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations, ask about <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
| 03:03.54 | wagle | tried gnash, no joy.. swfdec is hard to search for, will try that |
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| 03:05.03 | moldovean | wagle, you see me message ? |
| 03:05.13 | moldovean | s/me/ my |
| 03:09.29 | wagle | yeah, thought it a joke.. i did try running in a linux32 shell, but that didnt work.. iceweasel needs to be 32 bit, i think |
| 03:09.59 | wagle | had swfdec installed.. nada |
| 03:11.20 | wagle | I'm more likely to install ubuntu than a 32 bit debian.. but both would be a pain, since I cant remember what all I have installed |
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| 03:11.48 | wagle | is still trying things though |
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| 03:16.18 | moldovean | !debian clone |
| 03:16.18 | dpkg | One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup>. |
| 03:16.34 | moldovean | wagle ^^ |
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| 03:18.18 | wagle | interesting, thanks! (even if i don't do it here, its something i might want to do sometime) |
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| 03:18.46 | moldovean | !reinstall |
| 03:18.46 | dpkg | methinks reinstall is aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone> |
| 03:19.27 | wagle | weird.. nspluginwrapper isnt working |
| 03:19.52 | wagle | it has 64 bit wraps of the 32 bit plugins, but iceweasel isnt seeing them |
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| 03:20.06 | wagle | !nspluginwrapper |
| 03:20.06 | dpkg | it has been said that nspluginwrapper is a wrapper allowing you to use 32-bit browser plugins in a native x86_64 browser. It is known to work with <Adobe Flash> and a few others. Debian packages are in the <contrib> archive for lenny and squeeze. |
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| 03:23.11 | craigevil | did you restart icewasel after install everything |
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| 03:27.28 | wagle | yes.. i'm even starting it from the command line to see stderr |
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| 03:36.42 | wagle | which version of debian did you say worked for flash? |
| 03:36.56 | moldovean | lenny 32 |
| 03:37.09 | Black_Phantom | no flash for lenny 64 ;/ ? |
| 03:38.08 | wagle | i meant a 64 bit version.. flash is important, but not so much that I'm going to cripple my work machine |
| 03:38.28 | wagle | .. by installing 32 bit linux on it |
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| 03:39.30 | Black_Phantom | oh ok |
| 03:39.44 | wagle | oh well, i gotta get back to doing non-flash things |
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| 03:40.30 | wagle | Black_Phantom: doesnt work for me, and all the fixes I can find on the web dont work.. |
| 03:40.56 | Black_Phantom | well I think html5 is the real deal for Linu |
| 03:40.58 | Black_Phantom | Linux* |
| 03:41.12 | craigevil | wagle: nothing worked from here > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53036 |
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| 03:45.39 | wagle | craigevil: thanks, will try that just as soon as iceweasel stops chewing the cpu and lets me scroll |
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| 03:46.41 | wagle | i think its redoing the bookmark database since I upgraded to iceweasel 3.5 from 3.0 |
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| 04:09.49 | x1250 | is anyone here using squirrelmail from lenny? I am getting: |
| 04:09.51 | x1250 | [Sat Jul 10 23:49:30 2010] [notice] child pid 26639 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) |
| 04:10.01 | x1250 | how can i get more info about that? |
| 04:10.25 | x1250 | everything else works, phpmyadmin, sites, etc |
| 04:11.33 | NiLon | x1250 segfault = bug, so reporting it might help |
| 04:11.48 | NiLon | do some debugging if possible |
| 04:11.52 | mguy | x1250: What's your syslog saw |
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| 04:14.21 | x1250 | NiLon, ok :( mguy, you asking if I saw syslog? nothing on it. |
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| 04:33.10 | nsadmin | either mount it or try smbclient |
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| 04:35.09 | x1250 | hey guys, no other webmail client than squirrelmail on lenny? |
| 04:35.56 | moldovean | apt-cache search webmail |
| 04:38.01 | x1250 | I guess ~dwebmail is better, but still, it doesn't find many options. Uhm, didn't want to use backports :( |
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| 04:41.11 | tau | hey, could i use two monitors/screens without having two video cards ? |
| 04:42.29 | moldovean | yes, if your card support external one (i meant for laptops) |
| 04:43.14 | tau | moldovean: humm, but no there is a software to work with two screens by using one video card on a desktop ? |
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| 04:43.53 | moldovean | tau, or use http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/ .. ;-) |
| 04:43.59 | tvynr | I have a most bizarre networking problem. |
| 04:44.18 | tau | moldovean: hum, sure, i will try. |
| 04:44.22 | tau | moldovean: thanks. |
| 04:44.25 | moldovean | tau, usb monitors |
| 04:44.28 | moldovean | np |
| 04:44.31 | tau | o yeah, moldovean . |
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| 04:44.43 | tau | moldovean: but, would it work just plugging into my usb ? |
| 04:44.50 | moldovean | yes |
| 04:44.57 | tau | moldovean: and is it controled by software, only ? |
| 04:45.06 | moldovean | no |
| 04:45.12 | tau | moldovean: but, do i need a kind of special monitor or just a kind of conversor of plug ? |
| 04:45.31 | moldovean | no |
| 04:45.38 | tau | moldovean: did u grasp what i meant ? |
| 04:45.54 | tau | moldovean: my english is a bit confusing sometimes. |
| 04:46.07 | madara | mmm, this is anonnying, why i can't send any messages to #archlinux channel? |
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| 04:46.25 | tvynr | I'm reorganizing my home network. Computer A used to be the router and Computer B was behind it. Now, I am repurposing Computer B to do the routing job. Computer B is not handling incoming packets properly, though. If I ping anything for which there is a direct route, everything works fine. If I try to ping anything which requires a gateway, the packet goes out and the response comes back (according to tshark) but nev |
| 04:46.25 | tvynr | er gets delivered to the application; ping times out. Anyone have any guesses? I know the connection is fine; I'm using it right now. |
| 04:46.47 | tvynr | Computer B, btw, is running Debian Lenny. |
| 04:47.41 | moldovean | tau, it just works, it has buid in all ..""an entire secondary monitor comes with its own needs like a separate power or an additional video card. |
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| 04:49.48 | tau | moldovean: sure, greatful. |
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| 04:50.16 | tvynr | any guesses at all are welcome... I'm really starting to question my sanity here :-P same exact routing and interface config work fine on my laptop, so I'm trying to figure out what setting might be different in the new router |
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| 04:53.07 | moldovean | tau, see also http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/ |
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| 05:00.23 | tau | moldovean: sure, thank u friend. |
| 05:00.32 | moldovean | np |
| 05:00.45 | tau | moldovean: but the problem is: i have a old monitor here which i would like to use together with my new monitor. |
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| 05:01.06 | tau | moldovean: i find it doesn't will work if i plug it to my usb. would it go ? |
| 05:01.29 | NiLon | usb monitor huh? |
| 05:01.36 | NiLon | must be getting old |
| 05:01.41 | moldovean | tau, no, needs new one |
| 05:02.08 | moldovean | tau, for old one add a new graphic card .. |
| 05:02.35 | moldovean | pci usually , heh |
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| 05:03.32 | moldovean | or a double graphic card , agp |
| 05:04.04 | FabParma | I'm looking for backup application (GUI/Front end) to save files locally on ext4, ntfs and Samba shares. On ms i used Cobian, but in Linux i don't. Can you help me please? |
| 05:04.17 | tau | moldovean: yes, i will have. |
| 05:04.23 | tau | moldovean: but, there is a problem. |
| 05:04.23 | moldovean | cool |
| 05:04.35 | moldovean | xorg.conf ? |
| 05:04.39 | tau | my pc is in the warranty. |
| 05:04.46 | moldovean | and ? |
| 05:04.46 | tau | so, if i open it i will lose it. |
| 05:04.52 | moldovean | NO |
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| 05:05.10 | tau | moldovean: they don't permit me to open the pc when it is in warranty. |
| 05:05.34 | tau | moldovean: could i use a video card which i could plug into the usb ? is there something like ? |
| 05:05.36 | moldovean | tau, tell them to add your card !! |
| 05:06.32 | moldovean | http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Video-Card.html |
| 05:08.04 | tau | moldovean: oh yah, thank u again. |
| 05:08.09 | moldovean | np |
| 05:08.40 | moldovean | tau, google exist |
| 05:08.58 | tau | moldovean: lol |
| 05:09.07 | tau | moldovean: yes, but i didn't know for what to look. |
| 05:09.19 | wagle | a usb2 video card isnt going to be very fast |
| 05:09.49 | tau | but, moldovean would it work on linux too same if projected to run using drivrs on windows ? |
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| 05:10.01 | tau | wagle: i will use it only for works. |
| 05:10.21 | tau | wagle: it isn't my intent to use for games, but would it going to be useful for these tasks ? |
| 05:10.22 | moldovean | tau, usually yes |
| 05:10.33 | tau | moldovean: hummm. |
| 05:10.52 | wagle | if your machine supports virtual machines, you could run windows and then linux inside a vm |
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| 05:11.39 | tau | wagle: hmm. |
| 05:11.53 | tau | yes, wagle i will try. |
| 05:12.08 | tau | thanks for the help you and moldovean . |
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| 05:12.12 | moldovean | tau, don't forget that ALL pc are projected for windows .. |
| 05:13.18 | moldovean | but we use linux better than any windows on them/it |
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| 05:13.31 | gen0cide | Hello, its been a while since ive messed with my thinclient running debian |
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| 05:13.43 | gen0cide | Around 2 or 3 weeks ago i removed madwifi and enabled ath5k |
| 05:14.25 | gen0cide | Now i cant connect to hotspots and an error message keeps popping up "ath5k phy0: nise floor calibration timeout (2142MHz) around every minute |
| 05:14.41 | gen0cide | But i can scan for aps and i get results |
| 05:15.12 | moldovean | gen0cide, ask #networking |
| 05:15.39 | gen0cide | wut |
| 05:15.53 | moldovean | or something specialized in |
| 05:15.55 | gen0cide | This probally has something to do with the kernel |
| 05:16.03 | yang | So, what is the proper way to restart interfaces if "/etc/init.d/networking restart" is deprecated ? |
| 05:16.29 | simonrvn | deprecated? |
| 05:16.58 | yang | Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces ... (warning). |
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| 05:17.21 | yang | and I get error "failed to bring up ethX" |
| 05:17.25 | simonrvn | use ifup/ifdown then |
| 05:17.39 | yang | I cannot use that, since its a remote server, and I would loose access |
| 05:17.57 | wagle | same for networking |
| 05:18.01 | tau | moldovean: yes, truly. |
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| 05:18.31 | wagle | ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 # and pray |
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| 05:19.19 | yang | simonrvn: I was able to restart interfaces previously I think .... and I haven't modified them, but I don't get IPv6 addresses up any longer http://pastebin.com/6xeqBeEP |
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| 05:20.00 | simonrvn | dunno man, i don't use ipv6 currently. if i did, i'd use pre/post-up/down rules |
| 05:20.36 | moldovean | yang, use debian ? |
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| 05:21.49 | wagle | the ; makes it one command that will be completed regardless of the state of the network.. just like networking script |
| 05:23.05 | wagle | the "pray" comment means you dont know that the ifup part will succeed, but again, same with the networking script |
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| 05:24.26 | wagle | could write a cron script that does ifup/etc when the interface is "down" |
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| 05:26.31 | simonrvn | running a cron job would be safe |
| 05:26.34 | simonrvn | r |
| 05:27.10 | wagle | argh.. my iceweasel 3.5 upgradde is VERY UNHAPPY! </zippy> |
| 05:27.51 | simonrvn | wow, even with the typos, amazing :P |
| 05:29.10 | simonrvn | be easy to check too, just run ifconfig eth0 (or whatever) or ip addr or ip link |
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| 05:31.59 | wagle | ifconfig tun0 worked for me for two years |
| 05:32.24 | moldovean | !gnewsense |
| 05:33.02 | dpkg | gNewSense GNU/Linux is an operating system based on <Ubuntu>, without most non-free software/firmware/binary-only blobs, but with <GFDL>-licensed documentation. http://www.gnewsense.org/ #gnewsense on irc.freenode.net. |
| 05:33.02 | wagle | otherwise, the real solution is to find ALL the networking setup scripts, and run them all.. 8) |
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| 05:36.29 | comradekingu | http://www.gnewsense.org/index.php?n=FAQ.FAQ gNewSense 3.0 will be based on debian :) |
| 05:37.45 | moldovean | comradekingu, ask yang ;) is his works (it seems) |
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| 05:39.36 | comradekingu | Cool stuff, ill try it when it arrives |
| 05:40.54 | youknowwho | hi, I'm trying to download the debian testing cd, but I get this error: ""request download is no authorized for use with this tracker" any way to fix this? |
| 05:41.37 | EmleyMoor | Is there a good way to set the default mixer levels? (ALSA) |
| 05:41.40 | moldovean | youknowwho, wget http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 05:43.04 | EmleyMoor | Annoyingly, Line-In keeps turning up on my system |
| 05:44.02 | wagle | blames jhutchins_lt for melting my poor iceweasel down.. 8-D (now it spins the cpu for minutes at a time whenever I try to do something) |
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| 05:45.43 | wagle | has no control over the fact that he was the one who pulled the trigger in upgrading to 3.5 from 3.0 |
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| 05:50.19 | youknowwho | thanks, moldovean, I was hoping not to use the netinstall...but oh well...can I stil use the graphical installer |
| 05:50.23 | youknowwho | ? |
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| 05:50.50 | EmleyMoor | youknowwho: Yes |
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| 05:53.36 | Macer | what is the best way to block an entire country with iptables? |
| 05:53.44 | Macer | i want to block all of .tw |
| 05:53.47 | youknowwho | EmleyMoor: thanks, I'll take a look into that in the documentation... |
| 05:54.04 | rozie | Macer: there are rules generetors in the net |
| 05:54.16 | wagle | sounds evil |
| 05:54.29 | Macer | rozie: i see |
| 05:54.35 | Macer | generates it all for you? |
| 05:54.39 | rozie | you get there list of IP in given format |
| 05:54.46 | rozie | it generates list of IP ;) |
| 05:54.51 | Macer | ah ok |
| 05:54.52 | sweetpi | Macer: use the geoip module |
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| 05:55.17 | Macer | theres a geoip plugin for iptable? |
| 05:55.20 | Macer | s |
| 05:55.30 | Macer | i want to block all of asia tbh |
| 05:55.33 | Macer | :) |
| 05:55.55 | Macer | hinet.net is in taiwan and keeps trying to relay through mail servers |
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| 05:56.14 | sweetpi | Macer: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/518 |
| 05:56.22 | Macer | sweetpi: thanks |
| 05:57.16 | Macer | sweetpi: thanks. that is awesome |
| 05:57.29 | sweetpi | np |
| 05:57.43 | Macer | racist routing :) |
| 05:57.45 | Macer | haha |
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| 05:58.12 | moldovean | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:00.17 | Macer | hm |
| 06:00.31 | Macer | i wonder if 5 has geoip in the repo |
| 06:02.20 | Macer | no. ah well. let me do this by hand. i hope all i need is a kernel module. i really dont feel like having to build a kernel |
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| 06:03.14 | sweetpi | Macer: a more up to date article: http://www.tuxj0b.de/GeoIP_for_iptables_on_Debian_Lenny |
| 06:03.32 | rozie | well, this geoip module seems pretty much like meta-entry in iptables |
| 06:03.49 | Macer | awesome |
| 06:04.15 | rozie | so the same effect will be after adding all the IP's in iptables rules |
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| 06:04.26 | rozie | don't know which would be faster |
| 06:04.56 | Macer | ban the damn chinese |
| 06:04.58 | Macer | hahaha |
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| 06:05.24 | Macer | rozie: i blocked the entire US on a server using a script method |
| 06:05.32 | Macer | it takes forever to do that :) |
| 06:05.34 | hodden | printing problem, printing only blank pages. hp-check indicates four python extensions cupsext, pcarext, hpmudext and scanext failed to load with hplip. i have removed and re-installed hplip to no avail. where's the problem? |
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| 06:06.50 | rozie | Macer: yes, adding rules take some time ;) |
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| 06:07.08 | simonrvn | bans Macer |
| 06:07.16 | Macer | rozie: well. for an entire country.. some is an understatement |
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| 06:07.34 | Macer | simonrvn: thats what it says on the geoip site ;) |
| 06:07.48 | Macer | the blog that sweetpi gave me |
| 06:08.08 | Macer | which was funny because im actually banning the taiwanese |
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| 06:08.13 | simonrvn | ooh |
| 06:09.10 | sweetpi | doesnt endorse this message. |
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| 06:09.39 | simonrvn | and it also should be under /var/lib or /var/cache, depending, but i'm nitpicking |
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| 06:10.26 | simonrvn | though i'd probably use something like projecthoneypot's stuff - why re-invent the wheel for the 100th time. |
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| 06:14.07 | wagle | recall i said it sounds evil |
| 06:16.07 | simonrvn | project honeypot tracks spammers, open relays, etc. so using a pre-sorted so to speak source is probably saner than just outright REJECTing entire blocks. |
| 06:19.49 | sweetpi | Macer: simonrvn is right, i didnt notice you said this was a mail server |
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| 06:28.08 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 06:29.15 | superlinux | I have my computer freezes and then the keyboard lights flashes? what is the reason for that? |
| 06:29.27 | superlinux | I have my computer freezes and then the keyboard lights flashes. what is the reason for that? |
| 06:30.05 | EmleyMoor | superlinux: What kind of connection is your keyboard on? |
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| 06:30.40 | superlinux | EmleyMoor, PS/2 |
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| 06:31.08 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... not what I was thinking, then |
| 06:31.13 | superlinux | ok |
| 06:31.27 | superlinux | it's a freeze |
| 06:31.32 | sweetpi | sounds like a kernel panic |
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| 06:31.40 | superlinux | i know sweetpi |
| 06:31.53 | superlinux | but the problem no logs about it |
| 06:32.22 | sweetpi | boot with nosplash single |
| 06:32.23 | superlinux | cos the gui is running |
| 06:32.35 | sweetpi | oh its not at boot? |
| 06:32.48 | superlinux | sweetpi, not at boot at all |
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| 06:32.59 | superlinux | it boots nice and fine |
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| 06:33.31 | sweetpi | just random or a specific program you run? |
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| 06:33.50 | superlinux | i looked in kern.log and sys.log .. no nothing at all |
| 06:34.09 | superlinux | well it was firefox running |
| 06:34.31 | superlinux | and it has many tabs like aroud ten tabs |
| 06:34.38 | superlinux | *around |
| 06:34.59 | sweetpi | doesnt consider that many :) |
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| 06:35.27 | superlinux | mmmm |
| 06:35.44 | superlinux | too bad I cannot find a log |
| 06:35.52 | sweetpi | hmm not sure, maybe dont open firefox and see if it still panics |
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| 06:36.46 | superlinux | ok |
| 06:37.00 | wagle | ps/2 keyboard? might be the motherboard trying to do a "i failed for this reason" code.. check your motherboard manual |
| 06:37.05 | superlinux | I think It just panics there, on firefox |
| 06:37.49 | superlinux | wagle, I feel I have a bad sector in hard disk |
| 06:37.57 | sweetpi | true, could be overheating(flash im looking at you) |
| 06:38.29 | wagle | odd reaction to a bad sector, but i dunno |
| 06:38.47 | superlinux | then I must add temp sensor for my box |
| 06:39.57 | wagle | buy a disk to backup your current drive, back it up, and swap disks, and see if it still happens.. you need a backup anyway |
| 06:40.00 | superlinux | I live in lebanon, it's humid nowadays. but my box chassis is opened 24/24 |
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| 06:40.23 | superlinux | I do have an earlier backup |
| 06:40.32 | superlinux | I think I must make a new one |
| 06:41.01 | sweetpi | maybe check temp in bios when it crashes. most motherboards wouldnt even boot for a few sec after shutdown due to overheating |
| 06:41.03 | wagle | yeah, dont blow away your only backup trying to reuse the media |
| 06:41.33 | superlinux | wagle, of course |
| 06:41.59 | wagle | yeah |
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| 06:44.02 | wagle | eh darn, i was going to bet it was the powersupply |
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| 06:44.30 | wagle | or in lebanon, the power itself, maybe |
| 06:45.01 | sett | what should i do vlc shows only blue screen and i hear sound but can't watch some movies? |
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| 06:47.02 | wagle | has no clue, but thinks maybe trying a different player might do something different |
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| 06:47.57 | wagle | oh.. start vlc from the command line, and see what error messages it produces |
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| 07:08.15 | crazy2k | Hello. I have problems understanding the load and relocation addresses from ld's manual. It's not clear at all. Can someone give me a hint? |
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| 07:13.06 | wagle | crazy2k: where in the manual? |
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| 07:16.21 | crazy2k | wagle: http://www.math.utah.edu/docs/info/ld_3.html#SEC18 |
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| 07:16.59 | crazy2k | wagle: It defines ``start`` and then when it talks about the AT() construct, it's not clear what's the difference between ldaddr and start. |
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| 07:17.13 | crazy2k | At least, to me. |
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| 07:19.03 | FDfh | I saw a great tutorial on how to make your own GDM theme a while back, but now I can't find it; does anyone have any tutorials on this? |
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| 07:20.30 | bartm | FDfh: when I google for "tutorial on how to make your own GDM theme" then I find a few hits |
| 07:20.43 | FDfh | Found it, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GdmThemes |
| 07:20.51 | bartm | that's the first hit :) |
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| 07:21.31 | FDfh | meh! :P |
| 07:21.45 | ryoohki | how do i list unmet dependencies? |
| 07:22.04 | bartm | ryoohki: can you explain the context of this question? |
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| 07:29.23 | wagle | crazy2k: sorry, my browser is awol (long story) at the moment, i have to bow out |
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| 07:31.07 | sweetpi | ryoohki: apt-cache unmet |
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| 08:02.13 | superlinux | how can I show the percentage of completion of fsck? |
| 08:03.29 | bartm | superlinux: option -C displays progress bars |
| 08:04.09 | superlinux | ok |
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| 08:15.18 | sett | is there any way to make video file show on remote pc using ssh access? |
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| 08:15.53 | Ex-Opesa | set: sftp? |
| 08:16.29 | sett | i mean video file to start showing on screen not uplaod |
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| 08:16.56 | Ex-Opesa | sett: ah, I don't know about that then. :) |
| 08:17.15 | Macer | back in the 90s when i used slack the cp and mv used to have eta |
| 08:17.15 | Macer | what ever happened to that? |
| 08:17.16 | sett | one solution is remote control |
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| 08:21.22 | bartm | Macer: eta? |
| 08:22.04 | Macer | yes |
| 08:22.16 | Macer | had a time and percentage for cp and mv |
| 08:22.42 | Macer | it was a flag.. i think -g |
| 08:23.03 | Macer | what ever happened to quantum computers? |
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| 08:23.13 | Stereo | hello |
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| 08:25.03 | Stereo | I was wondering whether there was a way to update the backports I've already installed. Running aptitude -t lenny-backports safe-upgrade wants to upgrade everything, and aptitude full-upgrade wants to upgrade nothing. |
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| 08:33.23 | Stereo | aptitude -t lenny-backports install `/usr/bin/apt-show-versions -u | cut -d '/' -f 1` # works good enough |
| 08:33.26 | Stereo | thanks! |
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| 08:55.18 | antgel | i'm running a basic exim4. i want mail for one specific user to be forwarded to another email address, as well as delivered normally to the user's mailbox. what's the best wat to go about it - ~/.forward? |
| 08:55.33 | petemc | antgel: that works, or /etc/aliases |
| 08:55.49 | bartm | antgel: procmail |
| 08:55.59 | petemc | oh, as well as delivered, you would want to use .forward with the unseen option |
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| 08:57.05 | antgel | petemc: e.g. unseen deliver pb@other.domain.com ? |
| 08:57.13 | petemc | yeah |
| 08:57.34 | antgel | bartm: i forgot about procmail. while since i've admined a mail server |
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| 08:57.39 | antgel | thanks people |
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| 09:06.33 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 09:30.14 | youknowwho | hi, I was wondering how can I install kde on debian squeeze after the netinstall..."aptitude install kde" doesn't seem to work. Thanks |
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| 09:33.56 | petemc | !install kde4 |
| 09:33.56 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, "kde-standard" gets you the common set up, "kde-plasma-desktop" and "kde-plasma-netbook" minimal kde4 setups with respective flavouring, and "kde-full" install everything kde4. For more details on metapackages, see http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html . Also read the topic in #debian-kde on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 09:34.48 | deconvolution | hi, my wine has not been unable to boost about 10 month, it always reports "err:module:attach_process_dlls "winspool.drv" failed to initialize, aborting" |
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| 09:35.28 | youknowwho | thanks petemc and dpkg! |
| 09:35.43 | deconvolution | has anyone experienced similar problem and known the solution ? |
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| 09:37.30 | bartm | deconvolution: i can find the error message in google |
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| 09:52.49 | adam_ | i need some working wifi lan sniffer |
| 09:53.34 | babilen | adam_: tcpdump/wireshark ? |
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| 09:56.56 | adam_ | babilen: wireshark crash :( |
| 09:57.03 | adam_ | on eth0 work on wlan0 crash |
| 09:57.13 | adam_ | i do capture interfaces |
| 09:57.16 | adam_ | see packages numbers |
| 09:57.19 | adam_ | click start and crash |
| 09:57.37 | deever | how can i define a bridge without children in the network/interfaces? |
| 09:57.39 | adam_ | and i am connected with wifi with wpa2/tkip |
| 09:58.08 | adam_ | deever that is idea, hmm |
| 09:58.16 | adam_ | there is some progz in -ng |
| 09:58.21 | adam_ | hmm |
| 09:58.24 | adam_ | what was it name :D |
| 09:58.41 | adam_ | to use 1 network card with more that 1 program |
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| 10:00.11 | deever | adam_: ? |
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| 10:00.54 | deever | adam_: i didn't give you an answer, but asked a question myself, in case you haven't noticed...;) |
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| 10:01.22 | adam_ | but that will be fine for both |
| 10:01.23 | adam_ | :D |
| 10:01.33 | adam_ | root@debian:~# air |
| 10:01.33 | adam_ | airbase-ng aircrack-ng airdecap-ng airdriver-ng aireplay-ng airmon-ng airodump-ng airolib-ng airserv-ng airtun-ng |
| 10:01.37 | adam_ | hmm |
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| 10:03.36 | adam_ | deever: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=airserv-ng |
| 10:03.36 | adam_ | :) |
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| 10:39.21 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 10:39.21 | dpkg | < runedude> I dont hire any admins. My dad sets up router settings. He has a degree in computers. now shush. Lol. It's not changing, and thats that. |
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| 10:40.06 | simonrvn | FLW |
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| 10:50.57 | aleray | hi, my keyboard is mapped with french azerty but I need belgian azerty how can I reconfigure it ? |
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| 10:52.41 | bartm | aleray: dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
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| 10:55.48 | doomster | I'd like to resize a partition/filesystem that is currently in use. If I read 'man resize2fs' correctly, I should be able to do so by deleting the partition, recreating with larger size and then extending its size. Can someone confirm that? |
| 10:55.51 | aleray | bartm, thanks it work for the session but when I reboot I have to do it again |
| 10:56.04 | innociv | Anyone know why, after following this, http://www.ape-project.org/wiki/index.php/Debian_Startup_script , I get "sudo: /etc/init.d/aped: command not found |
| 10:56.04 | innociv | " ? |
| 10:56.49 | innociv | when i did update-rc.d i got.. http://pastebin.com/daiq47dA |
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| 10:58.36 | mahipal | what is the correct cd netboot iso for intel i5 64 bit ? ia64 or amd64 ? |
| 10:59.06 | dutchfish | mahipal: amd64 |
| 10:59.15 | mahipal | thanks dutchfish |
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| 11:03.34 | innociv | Anyone? |
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| 11:03.48 | innociv | Anyone know why, after following this, http://www.ape-project.org/wiki/index.php/Debian_Startup_script , I get "sudo: /etc/init.d/aped: command not found" when i did update-rc.d i got.. http://pastebin.com/daiq47dA |
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| 11:05.48 | doomster | innociv: did you chmod +x the script? |
| 11:05.52 | babilen | innociv: read /etc/init.d/README and http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 11:06.15 | babilen | innociv: in order to tackle the "Missing LSB ..." problem |
| 11:06.26 | innociv | Mkay thanks |
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| 11:07.01 | aleray | i did several time sudo dpkg=reconfigure console-data but my keyboard keep switching to french azerty_ (I want belgium azerty) |
| 11:07.13 | babilen | innociv: /etc/init.d/skeleton might also be worth a look |
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| 11:12.02 | innociv | ugh. Not working.. doesn't kill it |
| 11:12.26 | aleray | does anyone know what could cause X11 to keep swithwing my keyboard back to the wrong keymap? even after running dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 11:12.27 | aleray | ? |
| 11:13.10 | fxiny | your desktop env ? |
| 11:13.11 | doomster | aleray: you mean you switch, then it works, and then it stops working after some time? |
| 11:14.28 | aleray | doomster, I run dpkg-reconfigure console-data, set my keyboard to belgian azerty. It works for a minute and then switch back to french azerty (and I'm even not sure it works in all my x application eg. firefox) |
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| 11:14.33 | aleray | very strange |
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| 11:15.26 | doomster | indeed.... |
| 11:15.27 | aleray | actually it doesn(t work at all |
| 11:15.47 | doomster | not in the console, not in X? |
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| 11:15.57 | aleray | doomster, in the console it works perfectly |
| 11:15.59 | aleray | not in x |
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| 11:16.08 | darksk1ez | speccing a new machine, want a good gfx card that sits well with linux, preferably h264 video accel, i know nvidia with cuda/vaapi do this, but is there anymore open source friendly cards that i should consider |
| 11:16.20 | innociv | How can I add a pause in the restart? It seems to try to start before it's actually killed on restart, so I have to do restart twice. |
| 11:16.53 | doomster | man sleep |
| 11:17.00 | aleray | doomster, it says Looking for keymap to install: be2-latin1 |
| 11:17.06 | aleray | and that's it |
| 11:17.22 | aleray | I don't know how to verify what keymap is installed |
| 11:18.40 | aleray | ok brb |
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| 11:22.24 | dutchfish | aleray: did you dpkg-reconfigure locales ie installed locales: /usr/share/i18n/locales/be_BY@latin ? |
| 11:23.26 | babilen | innociv: checked /etc/init.d/skeleton? |
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| 11:25.29 | innociv | Don't see antyhing there that jumps out as being a wait. |
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| 11:25.54 | babilen | innociv: Could you paste your script somewhere? |
| 11:26.05 | innociv | http://www.ape-project.org/wiki/index.php/Debian_Startup_script |
| 11:26.55 | babilen | innociv: I would suggest to use start-stop-daemon to actually start/stop it |
| 11:27.18 | innociv | ? |
| 11:27.33 | innociv | i'm trying to set up monit |
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| 11:27.48 | innociv | Which I thought i'd need init.d start/stop scripts with. |
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| 11:30.47 | babilen | innociv: Monit ships a init script |
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| 11:31.46 | Bushmills | one way to run monit is from /etc/inittab |
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| 11:34.08 | innociv | well I'm trying to set up monit for automatically restarting APE. |
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| 11:35.04 | babilen | innociv: if APE does not come with an init script you should write one based on /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 11:35.38 | innociv | http://www.ape-project.org/wiki/index.php/Debian_Startup_script is this init.d script.. |
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| 11:35.43 | innociv | It doesn't come with, but there are ones on the wiki |
| 11:36.21 | mrstocks | how, i'm dial booting for a some programms i have to use with windows xp, but i got it wrong an i have to install the 64bit windows version if ireinstall windows it will remove my grub no? |
| 11:36.51 | babilen | innociv: Yes - and i suggest to write an init script based on /etc/init.d/skeleton as that would include lsb init headers and uses start-stop-daemon to start and stop the daemon process (i.e. APE)_ |
| 11:36.59 | mrstocks | can i install it and with the debian CD (after) select Install grub again and voila? |
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| 11:37.59 | innociv | It might be a bit too confusing for me. :/ What I'm needing is for it to just restart after it crashes anyways |
| 11:38.09 | babilen | mrstocks: yes. but i would use a decent live CD for that. (grml, knoppix, debian live, ...) - /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 11:38.41 | mrstocks | babilen, can the install debian cd do it ? |
| 11:38.59 | babilen | mrstocks: yes. The procedure is explained in the "fixmbr" factoid |
| 11:39.09 | mrstocks | i know lilo pretty well... no grub |
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| 11:39.44 | mrstocks | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:40.15 | babilen | mrstocks: You typically don't have to know a lot about grub in order to restore a MBR fucked by Windows. (I still find it very irritating that Windows takes over the MBR ....) |
| 11:40.32 | babilen | mrstocks: try it without a leading space ;) |
| 11:40.46 | mrstocks | i do too, and that i can't choice lilo... |
| 11:40.59 | babilen | mrstocks: you can use lilo |
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| 11:42.09 | mrstocks | well i think i will fck up the mbr and chroot and install lilo... I will install lilo before i install windows |
| 11:42.11 | babilen | mrstocks: Although you might run into some problems -- see recent topics on debian-user. But lilo is still available in Debian and a new upstream author has taken over its development. |
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| 11:44.23 | mrstocks | i have a anything problem that i have in windows and linux, somethings the same doesnt work there is some sort of static in the line, the speckers work with a mp3player. And it with a couple of reboots/update driver (that doesnt do anything) randamly it reworks |
| 11:44.32 | mrstocks | could be a heat problem? |
| 11:44.42 | mrstocks | amother mother damaged? |
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| 11:45.06 | thrashold | Is there any way to configure X to not try to load a keymap? |
| 11:45.16 | babilen | mrstocks: what? |
| 11:45.34 | mrstocks | i have trouble to explain it... |
| 11:45.42 | babilen | mrstocks: i figured that much :) |
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| 11:46.09 | babilen | mrstocks: But i don't think that your mother is damaged (although you motherboard may be) |
| 11:46.15 | mrstocks | Something my sound doesnt work randomly that is some type of static |
| 11:46.30 | babilen | mrstocks: In Debian and Windows? |
| 11:46.34 | mrstocks | both |
| 11:46.50 | mrstocks | when i plug a mp3 player, it works |
| 11:47.00 | Alessio | Sorry, who is this > http://www.pctunerup.com/up/image.php?src=_201007/20100711091544_P1030920.JPG ? Debian (5.0.4 lenny) Crash/loop every 3-4 days on my Atom 333 (intel d945gclf2) platform. :-( (Ram changed) |
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| 11:48.03 | mrstocks | babilen, the first thing i tryed with chage plugs... |
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| 11:48.34 | mrstocks | even so, i hear the static when its boots |
| 11:48.48 | babilen | mrstocks: Well, that is hard to diagnose. I guess that it is related to either (i) The way you connect your computer to your PA (ii) Your soundcard .... If you use the same cable to connect the computer and the mp3 it is most likely related to your soundcard |
| 11:49.48 | mrstocks | will i have a 6 channel and a 2, its the same with both |
| 11:50.00 | mrstocks | and its on a motherboard |
| 11:50.44 | mrstocks | its very frustating not knowing what it wrong |
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| 11:51.55 | aleray | dutchfish: I did dpkg-reconfigures locales with fr.BE.UTF-8 (plus other belgium latin locales) |
| 11:52.00 | babilen | mrstocks: But this is hardly a Debian issue and I have no idea how to diagnose it. :-\ --- One thing that might work is to reduce the soundcard's output volume and raise the PA volume ... |
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| 11:54.07 | mrstocks | i know its a deboan issue but what the heck, i don't think it will work i will change the motherboard (i have 3 of the same) see if that changes anything |
| 11:54.16 | mrstocks | thanks for your help |
| 11:54.43 | babilen | mrstocks: good luck :-\ |
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| 12:03.59 | atula | hi, I was wondering. what is the current support for atom CPU in Debian. thanks. |
| 12:05.15 | babilen | supported by i386 and amd64 |
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| 12:06.29 | babilen | atula: amd64 depends on the exact model -- check intel's specs |
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| 12:07.35 | babilen | atula: or boot a live cd and search /proc/cpuinfo for the 'lm' flag |
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| 12:21.14 | thrashold | How do you disable xkb in X? |
| 12:25.08 | simonrvn | why would you do that? don't you want a working keyboard? |
| 12:26.03 | thrashold | I don't have a keyboard. And X doesn't start because if xkb errors I don't know how to fix |
| 12:26.16 | buntfalke | how to figure out as a dependency of what a package was installed in an old installation only available as a (mountable) disk image? |
| 12:26.19 | thrashold | (it fails to compile a keymap or something) |
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| 12:26.51 | buntfalke | As in, how to answer: What did I install such that X got pulled in as a dependency back in the day? |
| 12:26.53 | simonrvn | oh i see. check the -help i think there's an option for the keyboard disable (or no error) |
| 12:27.43 | simonrvn | (like with the mouse) |
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| 12:28.23 | simonrvn | apt-cache depends / rdepends and such things |
| 12:28.46 | buntfalke | simonrvn: thanks |
| 12:30.39 | babilen | buntfalke: "aptitude why pkg" might also be usefull |
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| 12:30.59 | simonrvn | useful* |
| 12:31.31 | thrashold | simonrvn: Thanks. I found what you mean. Unfortunately, the option is gone or didn't really exist (though MythTV guides seem to mention it) |
| 12:32.04 | simonrvn | too bad. used to. |
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| 12:43.00 | phet | babilen, hi! |
| 12:43.07 | phet | babilen, I have still problems :( |
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| 12:44.19 | babilen | phet: don't we all? |
| 12:44.25 | Deathzor | hey guys i'm trying to install the python bindings for libtorrent but there seems to be no supporting package do i need to compile them myself or is there so mirror that will provide them in apt ? |
| 12:44.58 | babilen | Deathzor: do you have a link to the project? |
| 12:45.01 | phet | babilen, I mean with my graphic card |
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| 12:45.15 | babilen | phet: Yeah, I figured that much :) -- what is it? |
| 12:45.27 | phet | babilen, yesterday before we fixed that the video was OK, but I didnt have 3d, now the 3d is ok, but videos are screwed |
| 12:45.37 | phet | I will take an screenshoot to show you |
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| 12:46.05 | babilen | phet: OK - which player do you use? Does the same error occur with all players (vlc, mplayer, totem, ...) |
| 12:46.26 | phet | it occurs with VLC, with mplayer I directly cant play videos |
| 12:46.57 | babilen | phet: Do you use VLC from Debian or have you installed it from something like debian-multimedia? |
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| 12:48.12 | babilen | Deathzor: Easiest way would probably be a local install (python2.6 setup.py install --user) or using a virtualenv and installing it from the cheeseshop with pip |
| 12:48.28 | babilen | Deathzor: But it is hard to help you if you don't provide a link to the upstream website |
| 12:48.38 | phet | babilen, I dont know, I used aptitude to install it |
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| 12:48.57 | babilen | phet: Ok, then you are most likely using the version provided by Debian :) |
| 12:49.08 | babilen | phet: May I take a look at the screenshot? |
| 12:49.13 | phet | Im uploading it now |
| 12:49.22 | deever | how can i define a bridge without children in the network/interfaces? |
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| 12:49.56 | phet | babilen, http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2886/picturezb.png |
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| 12:50.02 | babilen | deever: what is a bridge without children? |
| 12:51.27 | babilen | phet: You did not have any problems with the setup prior to our tinkering? |
| 12:51.40 | phet | tinkering? |
| 12:52.56 | babilen | phet: The changes we made yesterday. Do you get any error messages when you start vlc on the console? Does the same happen for *all* movies or does it only happen for some? |
| 12:52.58 | phet | mplayer is working perfect now :/ |
| 12:53.16 | deever | babilen: well, with 'brctl addbr brname' you first create an empty bridge |
| 12:53.32 | deever | babilen: i'd need to do ifupdown do the same |
| 12:53.42 | babilen | phet: hmmpf :-\ -- that suggests that it is a problem with vlc ... |
| 12:53.49 | phet | yes |
| 12:53.55 | phet | I cant see any error with the console |
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| 12:54.10 | phet | [mpeg4 @ 0x8e5f430]Invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B frames detected |
| 12:54.14 | phet | Im not sure that is an error |
| 12:55.17 | phet | swScaler: pal8 is not supported as output pixel format |
| 12:55.18 | babilen | phet: and you get the same error with all videos? |
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| 12:55.29 | phet | [0x8aba3f0] swscale scale error: could not init SwScaler and/or allocate memory |
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| 12:55.56 | phet | babilen, no, strange |
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| 12:57.33 | phet | babilen, it seems more people have this error http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39931 |
| 12:57.35 | phet | gonna check it |
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| 12:58.43 | babilen | deever: You might want to read "man bridge-utils-interfaces" and http://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections |
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| 13:00.00 | babilen | phet: #videolan might also be a good place to ask ... They most likely know about the best way to diagnose the problem |
| 13:00.07 | phet | its fixed |
| 13:00.10 | phet | sorry to bother you |
| 13:00.16 | babilen | no problem - what did the trick? |
| 13:00.23 | phet | just "rm -rf ~/.config/vlc" |
| 13:00.26 | babilen | hehe |
| 13:00.39 | babilen | well .. enjoy your videos ;) |
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| 13:02.17 | buntfalke | babilen: Thanks! (aptitude why) |
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| 13:09.27 | aleray | how can I reconfigure my keyboard for working in X with an azerty belgium layout? (I tried dpkg-reconfigure console-data without success for X) I'm running squeeze |
| 13:09.52 | aleray | etc/default/keyboard still mention fr latin9 layout |
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| 13:17.52 | mpiechotka | Hello. I'm need to find out the usage of libgee. Is it possible to check reverse dependencies online or if anyone could post it via pastebin/send on priv (I don't have debian installed so I cannot use apt-rdepends). |
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| 13:22.33 | rozie | mpiechotka: what version o Debian do you have? |
| 13:24.42 | rozie | mpiechotka: not pretty sure if it's exactly what you wanted: http://pastebin.com/4whbJ9N7 |
| 13:24.48 | rozie | (testing/unstable) |
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| 13:25.53 | mpiechotka | rozie: I don't have Debian. Thanks a lot |
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| 13:27.48 | deever | babilen: ah, "none" did the trick! thank you! :) |
| 13:28.49 | rozie | mpiechotka: these are packages which have libgee2 as dependency |
| 13:30.26 | rozie | and if it's OK, can make the same for Debian stable |
| 13:30.38 | burntbiscuits | have problem I installed via net 5.05 AMD 64 and now just black screen , I have use xforcevesa in startup but still same results ? |
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| 13:31.30 | aguitel | is xulrunner needed to install iceweacel or firefox ? |
| 13:31.55 | aguitel | or for running? |
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| 13:32.02 | rozie | aguitel: yes |
| 13:32.32 | rozie | burntbiscuits: what processor do you have? |
| 13:32.53 | burntbiscuits | intel quad core |
| 13:33.13 | aguitel | rozie, the question is i install firefox-3.6.6 from launchpad ppa repo and it not install xulrunner and it is running very fine |
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| 13:38.09 | burntbiscuits | video card is nvidia 9600gt |
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| 13:43.40 | babilen | burntbiscuits: The screen is completely black and it never works? |
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| 13:44.29 | burntbiscuits | it boots and everything and init video but its just a black sceen |
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| 13:46.27 | burntbiscuits | i have edit grub to include xforsevesa and still end up with the same results |
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| 13:46.53 | babilen | so it turns black *after* you've selected which kernel to boot? |
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| 13:47.27 | burntbiscuits | no it turns black when goes to x |
| 13:47.49 | babilen | burntbiscuits: Ok, then you want to configure your xserver to work with your graphic card |
| 13:47.52 | babilen | !nvidia |
| 13:47.52 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Testing users: ask me about <nvidia squeeze>. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 13:48.52 | babilen | You might want to install the nvidia driver (i.e. "/msg dpkg nvidia pre-built" or "/msg dpkg nvidia m-a") and use those |
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| 13:49.13 | burntbiscuits | ya but cant i get basic graphics ? |
| 13:50.11 | babilen | burntbiscuits: It looks as if it is not working that well with your card -- could you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin please? |
| 13:51.05 | babilen | burntbiscuits: You can switch to a console with CTRL-ALT-F1, install pastebinit and paste it with "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and give me the link |
| 13:52.04 | seisatsu | /dev/urandom outputs valid perl scripts. Is this normal? |
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| 13:52.25 | burntbiscuits | c thats just it , it wont allow me to CTRL-ALT-F1 |
| 13:53.25 | MeglaW | seisatsu: yes |
| 13:53.46 | babilen | burntbiscuits: Kill the server with CTRL-ALT-DEL or boot into single user mode |
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| 14:04.08 | cusco | hi |
| 14:04.59 | cusco | can sox just read a file and print how many seconds long it is? |
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| 14:05.20 | user11 | I have a trouble with squeeze/lenny installers, both fail to install grub on swraided (raid1) root partition. Any ideas/comments? |
| 14:06.39 | cusco | I really don't know about software raid, but does it create a /dev/device? |
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| 14:07.05 | user11 | cusco: sure, there's /dev/md0 for root partition, base system is installed there |
| 14:07.13 | cusco | if it does and you have partition in that, like /dev/device0 and /dev/device1 you can try grub-install /dev/device0 |
| 14:07.15 | user11 | and the step with bootloader installation fails |
| 14:07.26 | user11 | that's what installer does |
| 14:07.37 | cusco | and what does it say? |
| 14:08.01 | user11 | grub-probe fails with something like /dev/md0 raid identification mismatch |
| 14:08.14 | user11 | it tries to write to mbr of the first disk in the array |
| 14:08.17 | user11 | which is correct |
| 14:08.24 | user11 | not sure where exactly is the problem |
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| 14:09.28 | user11 | also there was an error "can't read /boot/grub/stage1" |
| 14:09.49 | user11 | in setup log |
| 14:10.37 | user11 | I just manually create identical 40GB partitions on both disk, put them to raid1 |
| 14:10.44 | user11 | and mark it as the root partition |
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| 14:10.59 | user11 | then proceed with base system install, which is ok |
| 14:11.17 | user11 | grub step fails always |
| 14:11.39 | user11 | I also created bios boot partition on each disk |
| 14:11.48 | user11 | no success |
| 14:12.50 | cusco | sorry, I'm really not into raid |
| 14:12.56 | user11 | ook |
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| 14:27.16 | mathbr | Hi. Does someone know of a top-like network monitor (thus list of processes) which can be run as regular user? |
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| 14:29.44 | lindi- | mathbr: i don't think that information is available to regular users |
| 14:31.16 | utabak | I just did an install for my amd64 powered desktop however there is a problem the system does not start, the point is that I get the grub loader screen and select the propor debian, and then I get a message on the screen "Input signal out of range change settings to 1440X900 60Hz" I do not know how to act my monitor menu is also not showing at this stage |
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| 14:32.21 | utabak | on the grub loader there are two options btw, one is normal debian and the other is the single user mode |
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| 14:33.21 | djura-san | hello |
| 14:34.02 | LV-426 | mathbr, nethogs or 'watch netstat -tnp' any good ? |
| 14:34.11 | djura-san | i installed gnome bluetooth package but i cant recieve files since it displays that im missing some "PErsonal File Sharing" program |
| 14:34.20 | djura-san | im not sure what to do :\ |
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| 14:36.21 | mathbr | LV-426: nethogs can only run as root and netstat does not display the current traffic, only connections. |
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| 14:45.15 | utabak | leave |
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| 14:47.42 | Soul_Eater | mathbr, ifstat display traffic |
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| 14:52.48 | burntbiscuits | babilen: thanks I actually got in single mode and terminal , then apt headers , build essentials , then wget nvidia latest drivers , then sh and now working on installing openbox |
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| 14:53.42 | mathbr | Soul_Eater: Runs as regular user, yes. But no way to see which process generates which traffic. |
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| 15:02.36 | djura-san | okay i solved my issue by installing "gnome-user-share" package |
| 15:02.53 | babilen | burntbiscuits: :-D |
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| 15:03.14 | leejongwook | What is relationship between GNU and Debian ? |
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| 15:04.13 | leejongwook | LGPL/GPL licenses == part of GNU ? |
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| 15:05.01 | zumbi | leejongwook: Debian uses GNU software, also some BSD |
| 15:05.09 | babilen | leejongwook: LGPL/GPL are licenses from the GNU project -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Project |
| 15:05.53 | leejongwook | What if I seen somebody doesn't follow that license rules ? What should I do ? |
| 15:06.06 | zumbi | leejongwook: GNU also provides GCC, coreutils, .. among others with it is part of Debian base install |
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| 15:06.44 | leejongwook | If I care of that license, will it help GNU and Debian ? |
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| 15:07.22 | zumbi | leejongwook: sorry I did not understand |
| 15:07.23 | babilen | leejongwook: What do you mean by "care of" ? |
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| 15:08.26 | leejongwook | I mean somebody used free software(open source license) and they didn't add copyright information into that code and |
| 15:08.39 | leejongwook | I can't find any information about LGPL or GPL license informations too. |
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| 15:09.24 | leejongwook | So I was going to fix that problem if it will help GNU and free softwares and people who works on that kind of works. |
| 15:09.31 | babilen | leejongwook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPL_license ;) |
| 15:09.41 | leejongwook | babilen: It was hard to understand o_o |
| 15:10.00 | leejongwook | babilen: http://korea.gnu.org/people/chsong/copyleft/lgpl.ko.html <-- This is Korean. still hard |
| 15:10.03 | babilen | leejongwook: What problem are you trying to fix? And yes, licenses are hard to understand because they are legally binding texts. |
| 15:10.10 | Pryon | leejongwook: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html |
| 15:10.48 | leejongwook | babilen: Well I could make them buy the rights or add the license informations. |
| 15:10.58 | fxiny | leejongwook: give him a warning first . invite him to read again the licence |
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| 15:11.44 | leejongwook | Where should I let 'em put license informations at ? It's a web page. ? |
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| 15:11.48 | zumbi | leejongwook: if the code does not have a license, then it is "public license", you should contact the author, before changing its license. In anyway you might be able to fork the code and add a GPL/LGPL/BSD/... license. But I am not an attorney, so better talk to a legal adviser |
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| 15:12.15 | leejongwook | http://ckeditor.com/license <-- This is it @_@ |
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| 15:12.18 | babilen | leejongwook: #gnu might be a better place to discuss this. |
| 15:12.27 | leejongwook | It has GPL, LGPL and MPL |
| 15:12.35 | zumbi | or #gpl-violations |
| 15:12.36 | leejongwook | babilen: I see :) Thanks :) |
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| 15:12.42 | leejongwook | Thanks :) |
| 15:12.51 | leejongwook | Thanks all bye ~ |
| 15:12.56 | babilen | leejongwook: But what is the problem with the licensing model there? |
| 15:12.56 | zumbi | bye |
| 15:13.05 | babilen | well, bye and good luck ;) |
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| 15:13.24 | Pryon | gah |
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| 15:42.37 | wildc4rd | afternoon |
| 15:42.50 | babilen | good afternoon |
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| 15:44.12 | EugenMayer | can i place several configuration files under /etc/openvpn/*.conf to start several openvpn instances (does not seem to be that way) |
| 15:44.40 | EugenMayer | ah. yes /etc/default/openvpn "startall" |
| 15:46.08 | EugenMayer | hmm is Autostart a comma seperated list or just each new line a new server? |
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| 15:47.40 | LV-426 | EugenMayer, looks more like space separated, single line - #AUTOSTART="home office" |
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| 15:47.53 | EugenMayer | LV-426: does not work. |
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| 15:48.04 | EugenMayer | Tried, commas, each new line and space seperated |
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| 15:49.53 | krisx | how to install 3com 3c905B on debian ? (i'am no have GUI) |
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| 15:51.04 | evilmight_ | Hi, how to install flash player on Debian ? So, flashplugin-nonfree is deprecated, and not is possible install it with aptitude... |
| 15:51.43 | krisx | write again because I closed the window |
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| 15:53.15 | babilen | krisx: Could you paste the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i ethernet" in here please? |
| 15:53.17 | krisx | ehh |
| 15:53.27 | babilen | krisx: (on the computer that has the card) |
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| 15:53.59 | linduxed | is there a way to check what type of RAM i have inside the computer without opening it? |
| 15:54.13 | linduxed | as in DDR2, DDR3, SODIMM, DIMM and so on |
| 15:54.16 | babilen | krisx: But from my own experience I would say that your NIC is supported out of the box on lenny :) |
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| 15:56.36 | krisx | okay, i' have this - ethernet controller [0200]: 3com corporation 3c905b 100base5x [cyclone] [10b7:9055] (rev 30) |
| 15:56.58 | babilen | ,pciid 10b7:9055 |
| 15:57.00 | judd | [10b7:9055] is '3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]' from '3Com Corporation' with kernel module '3c59x' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10b7:9055 |
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| 15:57.36 | babilen | supported out of the box with the 3c59x module - do you run into problems with it? (it's a pretty old card so it should be well supported) |
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| 15:59.58 | krisx | ok, this card is supported... but how to activate ? in ifconfig have only lo |
| 16:00.10 | krisx | sorry my english is bad |
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| 16:00.55 | lmaowaffle | hello. I tried adding 'uinput' to /etc/modules, and boot log shows http://paste2.org/p/911349 |
| 16:01.14 | lmaowaffle | this is for multimedia keys on my logitech g35 headset |
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| 16:01.44 | babilen | krisx: Is the module loaded? (lsmod|grep 3c59) What does ifconfig eth0 up give you? What about "dmesg|grep 3c5" ? |
| 16:01.53 | lmaowaffle | incidentally, i've tried xev & minput etc. to get events when using said keys, but no go. what else should i try? |
| 16:02.00 | babilen | krisx: Also use "ifconfig -a" |
| 16:03.59 | krisx | grep 3c5 show 3c59x |
| 16:04.33 | krisx | ifconfig eth0 up - error: no have driver |
| 16:04.53 | krisx | device* |
| 16:04.56 | babilen | "no have driver" ? |
| 16:05.17 | krisx | up |
| 16:05.22 | babilen | ifconfig -a ? |
| 16:05.26 | babilen | what about dmesg? |
| 16:05.34 | krisx | only lo |
| 16:06.54 | babilen | krisx: "modprobe -r 3c59x && modprobe 3c59x" and paste "dmesg|tail 23" to a pastebin |
| 16:07.18 | babilen | please also paste /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 16:07.39 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 16:07.41 | babilen | you might want to remove the exact MAC addresses in the latter paste |
| 16:07.45 | babilen | ZenWalker: welcome |
| 16:07.48 | ZenWalker | the separator miles, on gcalctool not rule |
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| 16:07.55 | krisx | how ? i'am not connected to internet |
| 16:08.06 | babilen | krisx: ah - minor problem :) |
| 16:08.22 | babilen | krisx: ok - any obvious error if you reload the module? |
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| 16:08.40 | krisx | moment |
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| 16:10.22 | krisx | vortex_mod_prob1 fails returns -21 |
| 16:10.42 | babilen | whut? |
| 16:11.15 | krisx | in write cmd modprobe -r ... |
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| 16:11.56 | sizzers | can someone please tell me the linux equivalent of "ipconfig /displaydns"? I can't seem to find it :( |
| 16:12.33 | cahoot | cat /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 16:13.05 | babilen | if you run "modprobe -r 3c59x" you get "vortex_mod_prob1 fails returns -21" as error message? |
| 16:13.15 | krisx | yep |
| 16:13.23 | babilen | scratches head |
| 16:14.05 | babilen | I have to investigate that - never seen "vortex_mod_prob1" and neither has google (the latter is surprising) |
| 16:14.12 | Devastator | babilen also, google returns nothing, this is bad |
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| 16:16.18 | babilen | krisx: Which kernel version do you use? |
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| 16:16.26 | eptalon | heyas |
| 16:17.25 | eptalon | I use debian sid; recently, an "external drive" (WD MyBook Studio, for Mac) "lost" partition data. |
| 16:17.27 | SuP|Lobby | is now auto-away after 0s idle |
| 16:18.13 | eptalon | Rather than 3-4 partitions, I now only see one. |
| 16:18.26 | babilen | !tell SuP|Lobby -about away |
| 16:18.37 | SuP|Lobby | it fine guys |
| 16:18.42 | SuP|Lobby | i made a mistake |
| 16:18.48 | SuP|Lobby | loaded a script in my vars |
| 16:18.53 | SuP|Lobby | o_o |
| 16:18.58 | SuP|Lobby | it's fixed already |
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| 16:19.10 | babilen | SuP|Lobby: No problem, just wanted to let you know. Just imagine ~1000 users doing that :) |
| 16:19.18 | SuP|Lobby | yeah i know :) |
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| 16:20.32 | Devastator | babilen I wanna say thank you for your help yesterday, problem is, when I tried to repartition the disk, I couldn't commit changes to disk and you know the rest |
| 16:20.51 | Devastator | babilen I had to find a working cdrom to reinstall |
| 16:21.32 | Devastator | babilen but was my mistake, I didn't knew I wasn't being able to repartition |
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| 16:34.01 | vipe | I have an issue during my netinstall, I'm trying to install lenny but which ever mirror I choose (Belgium, UK, US) I get the error (in the console) it comes back wit the error message it does not support the specified release (lenny)... In the install interface (I'm not using the gui or guided installation) <skip>cannot find release file<skip> |
| 16:34.09 | vipe | any idea's? |
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| 16:35.11 | legis | vipe: what iso did you downloaded? |
| 16:35.18 | aguitel | vipe, try other mirrors |
| 16:35.32 | vipe | netinstall |
| 16:35.59 | legis | I know, what's the name? |
| 16:36.10 | vipe | 505-i386 |
| 16:36.38 | vipe | I'm installing kernel 2.6.26-486 |
| 16:37.30 | legis | you are doing something wrong |
| 16:37.43 | vipe | legis: advise me pls ;-) |
| 16:38.13 | legis | how can I know? you were very vague |
| 16:39.11 | legis | !installation |
| 16:39.19 | aguitel | vipe, try downloading again the netinstall iso |
| 16:40.02 | vipe | I downloaded this one from ftp.belnet.be, I'll use one from the US. I'll get back to you |
| 16:40.27 | fxiny | vipe: what's your cpu ? |
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| 16:41.54 | vipe | fxiny: intel dual core, 2 GHz |
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| 16:42.59 | xyan | mac? |
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| 16:44.09 | jhutchins_lt | Don't just blindly re-download it, check the md5 of the image against the one posted on the site. |
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| 16:45.30 | antonis_wrx | hi, I am trying to parse a tex file on a samba share, but I get a file not found error |
| 16:45.43 | antonis_wrx | http://pastebin.com/rUqZGieY |
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| 16:49.25 | uwjesd | When I hold a direction key, no matter for how long. The cursor just moves one time in that direction. What is broken on my system? |
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| 16:51.05 | fxiny | since ? |
| 16:52.10 | craigevil | uwjesd: check the key repeat settings , funguloids (game) used to have a bug that unchecked key repeat in kde/gnome |
| 16:52.40 | uwjesd | craigevil: I played fungoloids today. That must be it. |
| 16:52.57 | fxiny | !beer craigevil |
| 16:52.58 | dpkg | pulls out an excellent Yuengling Lager for craigevil |
| 16:53.04 | raboof | uwjesd: what does 'xset -q | grep auto' in the console tell you? |
| 16:53.05 | fxiny | amazing guess |
| 16:54.23 | uwjesd | auto repeat: off |
| 16:54.43 | raboof | uwjesd: 'xset r on' turns it on |
| 16:55.07 | uwjesd | It did. Thank you very much. |
| 16:55.20 | raboof | uwjesd: not sure if that will survive a reboot though |
| 16:55.54 | jhutchins_lt | Nice one guys. |
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| 17:09.18 | khaleel5000 | hi, can you suggest any reliable program for compressing data (data archiver) |
| 17:10.34 | padhu | khaleel5000: what about tar+gzip? |
| 17:11.41 | khaleel5000 | gui based :( |
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| 17:12.42 | uwjesd | khaleel5000: file-roller |
| 17:13.02 | khaleel5000 | uwjesd: thanks |
| 17:13.38 | uwjesd | You are welcome. |
| 17:13.44 | babilen | khaleel5000: install it, right click within nautilus â compress |
| 17:14.11 | khaleel5000 | babilen: ok, i am on lxde btw |
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| 17:23.49 | vipe | OK, I downloaded the netinstall image from germany instead (verified md5sums) |
| 17:24.06 | vipe | installer is running fine now :-) |
| 17:24.08 | vipe | thx guys |
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| 17:26.52 | jhutchins_lt | vipe: w00t! |
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| 17:55.52 | innociv | I can't get monit working. It runs fine. I see it running. It's not actually restarting something, though. |
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| 17:56.07 | innociv | Anyone have experience with it? |
| 17:56.28 | sed | Hi All, i am dealing with a failing HDD. Tried to image the full drive with the dd utility, which fails too unless i am using the noerror option. The drive is 40gb, do you think i will be able to recover data from the image i create? Will i be able to mount the image on my filesystem? thx |
| 17:56.46 | lindi- | sed: dd_rescue |
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| 17:56.59 | sed | mmmh, gonna have a look |
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| 18:00.51 | innociv | Anyone have experience using monit? http://aped.pastebin.com/0ZWK4YX1 Here is how i have it set up, but it's not starting this process when it's down. |
| 18:01.02 | jhutchins_lt | Ideally, one makes the backups BEFORE one notices that the drive is failing. |
| 18:01.04 | innociv | I'm not sure how to figure out why it's not.. |
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| 18:01.49 | O^e0 | what're the packages that i may need to run video files ? |
| 18:03.16 | xxtjaxx | hmm where are the setup files for ikiwiki in debian lenny? /etc/ikiwiki has only a wikilist file and the /usr/share/{ikiwiki/,doc/ikiwiki/examples} break on execution |
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| 18:05.49 | babilen | O^e0: What do you mean? Are you looking for a video player? |
| 18:05.54 | rozie | looking for someone using GMPC && Jamendo plugin on testing/unstable |
| 18:06.13 | O^e0 | babilen: nope, i already 've gnome-mplayer, what i mean is, packages for codecs ... |
| 18:06.25 | babilen | rozie: Let's suppose you found such a person. What would you do then? |
| 18:06.39 | joshsmith | Hey all, sorry if this a noob question, but I'd just installed sun-java6-jre but Lenny's telling me that java2-runtime is not installed |
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| 18:06.49 | rozie | question is simple: does it works? my player shows fragments of URL instead of a title |
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| 18:07.02 | babilen | O^e0: If you have codec related problems you might want to take a look at VLC and dmm (/msg dpkg dmm) |
| 18:07.10 | rozie | and acts strange after getting database from Jamendo |
| 18:07.25 | joshsmith | O^e0 VLC is amazing and will change your life |
| 18:07.34 | rozie | works, works, gets somehow inresponsive |
| 18:07.48 | rozie | then I can choose a title, but cannot add to playlist |
| 18:08.02 | joshsmith | O^e0, VLC even looks after my kids for me |
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| 18:08.33 | arrang | Hi, is there a way to pass arguments to smbd via /etc/default/samba? |
| 18:08.34 | O^e0 | joshsmith: i'm aware of that, but i think, i need to have a look @ dmm, already doing. |
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| 18:09.15 | joshsmith | O^e0 |
| 18:09.24 | joshsmith | O^e0, alrighty |
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| 18:09.44 | joshsmith | So anyone have any idea why I'm being told java2-runtime is not installed even though I have a package installed? |
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| 18:10.20 | rozie | joshsmith: who tells you it's not installed? ;0 |
| 18:10.33 | joshsmith | rozie, Lenny |
| 18:10.50 | rozie | but what program? |
| 18:11.10 | joshsmith | rozie, Hudson |
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| 18:11.26 | joshsmith | Java's a dep |
| 18:11.27 | rozie | don't know this one |
| 18:11.29 | rozie | which java |
| 18:11.38 | rozie | (that's a command) |
| 18:11.51 | rozie | and take a look on /etc/alternatives |
| 18:12.01 | joshsmith | I installed sun-java6-jre and that should've been fine |
| 18:12.14 | rozie | no. check alternatives |
| 18:12.33 | joshsmith | well, trying default-jre now |
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| 18:12.46 | rozie | which java |
| 18:12.51 | babilen | joshsmith: that will install openjdk for you |
| 18:12.55 | babilen | !java alternatives |
| 18:12.55 | dpkg | Rather than using update-alternatives (or galternatives) to set each individual alternative for java (and there are lots of them!), use update-java-alternatives. To see a list of the valid java alternatives, use "update-java-alternatives --list". To select the sun-java6 java runtime environment, "update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun". |
| 18:12.56 | rozie | sorry. pasted again |
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| 18:13.39 | rozie | babilen: so can you tell me if this jamendo plugin works for you? |
| 18:14.07 | innociv | Anyone have experience using monit? http://aped.pastebin.com/0ZWK4YX1 Here is how i have it set up, but it's not starting this process when it's down. I don't know how to figure out why it isn't working. |
| 18:14.07 | babilen | rozie: No I can't, but it is always better to ask the real question. |
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| 18:14.58 | joshsmith | default-jre worked |
| 18:15.16 | babilen | innociv: please, include lsb headers and use start-stop-daemon :) |
| 18:15.30 | rozie | babilen: yep. just haven't finished when you answered ) |
| 18:15.31 | rozie | ;-) |
| 18:15.52 | babilen | hehe |
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| 18:16.37 | innociv | start-stop-daemon will check if a service is not started, and start it? I'm having problems with aped crashing, babilen |
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| 18:19.55 | babilen | innociv: No, it is just a much better way to base your init script on /etc/init.d/skeleton instead of the one you are using now ... Isn't monit supposed to provide the "restart-if-not-running" functionality? |
| 18:20.08 | babilen | anyway ... football ;) |
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| 18:20.22 | innociv | oh. You mean point monit to start-stop-daemon? |
| 18:20.28 | innociv | instead of pointing it to an init.d script? |
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| 18:21.32 | babilen | no - include lsb headers in your init script and use start-stop-daemon to start and stop aped (as exemplified in /etc/init.d/skeleton) because you'll have a well behaving init script then. You can then work on the monit integration |
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| 18:34.43 | joshsmith | I'm trying to ssh-add .ssh/id_rsa.pub |
| 18:34.51 | joshsmith | but it's coming back saying it can't open a connection |
| 18:36.09 | Macer | does alpine = pine? |
| 18:36.30 | Vroomfondle | is ssh-agent running, joshsmith ? |
| 18:36.38 | joshsmith | now it is |
| 18:36.53 | joshsmith | it's saying it's ignoring the key: Permissions 0644 for '.ssh/id_rsa.pub' are too open. |
| 18:37.21 | Vroomfondle | yeah, it's picky. chmod 700 it. |
| 18:37.43 | jelly-home | no need for that x bit, Vroomfondle |
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| 18:38.28 | Vroomfondle | ok, 600 then ;) |
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| 18:38.59 | joshsmith | gah, it's saying I'm giving a bad passphrase, but I know what I entered is right |
| 18:39.05 | Macer | guess so |
| 18:39.25 | jamesstanley | Does anyone here played runescape? Do you know how to make OpenGL graphics work? It just tells me that "RuneScape was unable to enter that display mode." |
| 18:39.31 | jamesstanley | Other opengl games work perfectly |
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| 18:39.41 | jamesstanley | Err... played->play |
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| 18:43.30 | joshsmith | Vroomfondle, it's still not adding it for some reason |
| 18:43.58 | Vroomfondle | still complaining about permissions? |
| 18:44.26 | joshsmith | I've debugged the connection (it's to Git) and it's just not working. not a perm problem at this point, just still not aware that it exists |
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| 18:44.37 | joshsmith | how can I rename the keypair to a known name? |
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| 18:45.10 | jelly-home | joshsmith: public part of the key isn't security-sensitive and should be okay to be world readable. You may be using .pub where th private key should go? |
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| 18:45.25 | erio | hi |
| 18:45.32 | erio | where would i be able to patch for adduser |
| 18:45.35 | erio | where can i find the code? |
| 18:45.49 | jelly-home | joshsmith: in other words, if you're doing ssh-add, give it the private key file |
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| 18:46.18 | joshsmith | jelly-home: There's already a private key there, I'm just making a public key for git. No private key involved at all |
| 18:46.36 | joshsmith | they say, We should either rename our keypair to use a default name, or run ssh-add path/to/key to make SSH aware of the keyâs existence. |
| 18:46.45 | joshsmith | of course I tried the latter method, but idk how to go about the former |
| 18:47.02 | jelly-home | joshsmith: so add the private key. that's all there is to do with ssh-add on the client side. |
| 18:47.33 | erio | where would i be able to patch for adduser |
| 18:47.35 | erio | where can i find the code? |
| 18:48.11 | jelly-home | joshsmith: you also have to put the public part somewhere for the service to read it; I've no idea where this is done for git |
| 18:48.28 | joshsmith | jelly-home: I already added it to git |
| 18:49.20 | jelly-home | erio: what are you really trying to do? |
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| 18:51.26 | petemc | adduser is a script |
| 18:51.48 | petemc | oh, hes gone |
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| 18:55.16 | xxiao_ | after i purged a package it still keeps config files and dpkg -l still shows 'rc' status |
| 18:55.17 | pipeline | jamesstanley: you need to install sun-java6-jre and libjogl-java. Not 100% sure it will work, but it definitely won't work without those. |
| 18:55.26 | jamesstanley | i did both |
| 18:55.27 | xxiao_ | is there a way i clean it fully? |
| 18:55.52 | xxiao_ | i want it totally gone, plus 'dpkg -l' does not show anything about it, is it possible |
| 18:56.11 | pipeline | jamesstanley: remove libgcj-common also, just to be sure gcj isn't in use. If it still doesn't work after that, well, e-mail the developers. |
| 18:56.19 | jamesstanley | ok |
| 19:06.00 | jelly-home | !tell xxiao_ about purge |
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| 19:06.22 | xxiao_ | jelly, i used purge |
| 19:06.40 | xxiao_ | apt-get remove --purge, still the config is there, and 'dpkg -l' showed 'rc' |
| 19:06.51 | jelly-home | xxiao_: read what dpkg told you, carefully |
| 19:07.08 | xxiao_ | rc: reinstall/config i think |
| 19:07.21 | xxiao_ | i want 'dpkg -l' just show 'ii', if not i want to purge them fully |
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| 19:07.27 | acke- | I would like to start a screen session on debian bootup, screen will then start irssi and other applications. would it be a good idea to put a screen that just executes screen in /etc/init.d/ ?? |
| 19:07.31 | jelly-home | xxiao_: read what dpkg the bot told you in a private message, carefully |
| 19:08.37 | acke- | would it be a good idea to put a script that executes screen in /etc/init.d/ ?? |
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| 19:12.07 | xxiao_ | jelly, that helped, thanks a lot! |
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| 19:13.44 | innociv | I don't get what babilen was saying. My init.d script starts and stops the process fine. It doesn't with monit, however. |
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| 19:38.55 | JairunCaloth | anyone know of any scripts that help generate wpa_supplicant.conf ? |
| 19:39.43 | jhutchins_lt | JairunCaloth: vi |
| 19:40.10 | JairunCaloth | yes because vi can help me generate a wpa_supplicant.conf for someone who I don't even know. |
| 19:40.31 | JairunCaloth | and likely has little linux experiance |
| 19:41.04 | moldovean | !wpa |
| 19:41.04 | dpkg | wpa is Wi-Fi Protected Access. A WPA supplicant is provided for Debian systems in the 'wpasupplicant' package. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz to configure the supplicant as desired (especially "Troubleshooting" regarding association to hidden SSIDs). Debian-Installer does not support WPA at this time; see also <nowpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
| 19:41.46 | JairunCaloth | nevermind, just for get I asked |
| 19:42.08 | JairunCaloth | I'll write one myself |
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| 19:42.32 | jhutchins_lt | A basic wpa_supplicant.confi is like four significant lines. |
| 19:42.42 | project2501a | hey guys, i just inserted a usb soundblaster sound card on my laptop |
| 19:42.52 | peterrooney | reinventing the wheel usually gets you tired, and a thing that isn't round. |
| 19:43.20 | project2501a | gnome picks it up, but i can't seem to be able to switch from the built-in laptop card to the soundblaster one. any advice? |
| 19:43.46 | peterrooney | project2501a: sudo alsaconf ? |
| 19:44.27 | project2501a | echo "see, i should have read the manual" > #ubuntu |
| 19:44.32 | project2501a | thanks |
| 19:45.00 | project2501a | peterrooney: no alsaconf |
| 19:45.30 | moldovean | project2501a, use lenny ? |
| 19:45.36 | project2501a | squeeze |
| 19:45.51 | moldovean | too bad , no alsaconf there |
| 19:46.00 | project2501a | alternative? |
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| 19:46.23 | moldovean | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.42 | project2501a | ta |
| 19:46.49 | moldovean | np |
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| 19:49.06 | peterrooney | !based on debian |
| 19:49.06 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 19:49.32 | project2501a | ? |
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| 19:55.51 | peterrooney | oh, right - squeeze replaced alsaconf with something else. whoops. |
| 19:56.05 | Lord | hi peolpe, does someone know how to solve my tiny problem : i've deleted my kernel in /boot -__- is there a way to recover it ? |
| 19:56.12 | peterrooney | !beat me |
| 19:56.12 | dpkg | beats peterrooney with a large stick. |
| 19:56.29 | Lord | dump it from ram or i don't know ... something else. |
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| 19:56.50 | b0nghitter | lord always back it up before replacing |
| 19:57.02 | b0nghitter | now you know |
| 19:57.03 | peterrooney | Lord: apt-get --reinstall install (kernel image name) should do the trick |
| 19:57.30 | Lord | i deleted the partition where /boot was... |
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| 19:57.37 | b0nghitter | oops |
| 19:57.41 | Lord | it contained my kernel backup ^_^ |
| 19:57.56 | b0nghitter | remake it and install grub then the kernel |
| 19:58.07 | b0nghitter | er |
| 19:58.12 | b0nghitter | the kernel then grub? |
| 19:58.35 | jhutchins_lt | One of the wonderful ways to screw up with a seperate /boot. |
| 19:58.46 | jhutchins_lt | I found enough of them myself that I don't do that any more. |
| 19:58.48 | Lord | aptitude install kernel-image doens't have amd64 version |
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| 19:59.12 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels -arch amd64 |
| 19:59.13 | judd | (kernels [--release <lenny>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases. |
| 19:59.28 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 19:59.29 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-16); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-24); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 19:59.45 | jhutchins_lt | an imprefect tool... |
| 20:00.01 | Lord | i'm on sid |
| 20:00.31 | jhutchins_lt | Oh, well, just restore your backup then. |
| 20:00.33 | Lord | is this linux-image ? |
| 20:00.48 | Lord | my backup died with the original |
| 20:00.56 | jhutchins_lt | 'cause you wouldn't run sid without a system backup. |
| 20:01.00 | Lord | they were on the same partition :-÷ |
| 20:01.03 | Lord | :-/ |
| 20:01.11 | jhutchins_lt | That's not really a backup. |
| 20:01.18 | Lord | i know i know |
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| 20:01.43 | craigevil | Lord: aptitude install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 20:01.48 | Lord | kernels aren't things we think it could magically disappear |
| 20:02.07 | jhutchins_lt | Ok, work toward maybe external drive snapshots, in the mean time aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64 --reinstall should get you linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 |
| 20:02.33 | jhutchins_lt | craigevil: He'd need to go to backports for that. |
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| 20:03.03 | quentusrex | I'm trying to give a user read only access to a file of mine. I have created a group called viewstuff. I have changed the group of the file to this group. I added the other user to the group. And I set chmod g+r ./file. But the user still gets permission denied when trying to cat the file. Any ideas? |
| 20:03.07 | craigevil | jhutchins_lt: [16:00] < Lord> i'm on sid |
| 20:03.23 | jhutchins_lt | Um... Oh, I see, n'mind. |
| 20:03.38 | Lord | nice it works jhutchins_lt |
| 20:03.55 | Lord | my /boot have a brand new kernel ! |
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| 20:03.58 | jhutchins_lt | Lord: Um, thanks, go by what craigevil said. |
| 20:04.09 | Lord | thanks to all of you ;-) |
| 20:04.32 | Lord | thaks to you craigevil of course |
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| 20:04.44 | jhutchins_lt | Lord: And get those snapshots working, best buy has external drives on sale. |
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| 20:05.29 | Lord | jhutchins_lt â i already have a nas with backup of everything except /boot -__- |
| 20:05.59 | Lord | it's murphy's law |
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| 20:07.09 | Lord | i was compiling a new kernel ⦠|
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| 20:11.09 | b0nghitter | # which aptitude |
| 20:11.10 | b0nghitter | which: no aptitude in (/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin) |
| 20:11.38 | b0nghitter | nvm... wrong box |
| 20:12.27 | moldovean | which one ? |
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| 20:15.34 | b0nghitter | gentoo |
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| 20:17.11 | Lord | it boots ! nice |
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| 20:30.06 | project2501a | holy wakamoly. switching soundcards in alsa is major work... |
| 20:30.09 | project2501a | damn |
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| 20:31.41 | lor | hi |
| 20:31.50 | lor | how do I tell the installer to install xfce instead of gnome? |
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| 20:33.33 | project2501a | damn! rebooting in less than 10 sec |
| 20:33.43 | moldovean | lor, don't choose any Desktop in tasksel from installer, finish the install, reboot and then install your xfce using aptitude |
| 20:35.01 | lor | ok |
| 20:35.03 | lor | thanks |
| 20:35.05 | moldovean | np |
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| 20:35.59 | petemc | lor: you can change the boot line of the installer to install kde as the desktop task |
| 20:36.13 | petemc | lor: http://wiki.debian.org/Xfce |
| 20:36.33 | lor | that's even better :) |
| 20:36.35 | project2501a | enlightemnent damn it |
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| 20:36.47 | project2501a | E19 will rise again! |
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| 20:45.16 | lor | ok I'm installing |
| 20:45.16 | aleray | hi, I'm looking for a lightweight, dependency-free app to take screenshot that include the mouse cursor; DO you know any ? |
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| 21:03.59 | lor | is squeeze stable enough for desktop use? |
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| 21:04.41 | rudi_s | lor: If you know how debian works, yes, otherwise no (as always with testing/sid). |
| 21:04.54 | lor | what should I know? |
| 21:05.20 | rudi_s | lor: Enough that you're confident to fix (every/most) problems which might arise when using testing. |
| 21:05.24 | rudi_s | !tell lor about testing |
| 21:05.33 | rudi_s | If in doubt, then don't. |
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| 21:06.28 | lor | rudi_s, it's a machine I don't really care about. I have my main OS in the other hard disk so I can do all kinds of testing here |
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| 21:07.07 | rudi_s | lor: In that case, just use it (but make sure you won't lose any important data). |
| 21:07.36 | rudi_s | But if you aren't experienced in working with the console then helping you with problems can be very difficult. |
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| 21:19.27 | jhutchins | lor: We usually recommend that you get familiar with Debian and how it handles packaging and configuration before you mess with squeeze, you'll get a lot more done that way. |
| 21:19.59 | lor | I've used it for years on servers |
| 21:20.04 | lor | but always stable |
| 21:20.14 | jhutchins | lor: You should also make backups before each upgrade so you can easily un-do the update when it breaks. |
| 21:20.16 | rudi_s | lor: Then it should be fine. |
| 21:21.09 | lor | jhutchins, I don't keep anything on my computers |
| 21:21.19 | lor | so if it goes wrong I can do a fresh install again |
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| 21:35.32 | upIRC | What tools would be used to rescue data off NTFS, using linux. Gparted hosed my data, lost about 80gb. |
| 21:35.56 | upIRC | I just want to undelete the files? |
| 21:37.59 | upIRC | gparted copied, resized then just hosed. I waited 4 hours for it to finish. Resize from 200gb to 140gb. |
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| 21:42.52 | rgr | no chance |
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| 21:46.31 | upIRC | rgr, no chance, lmao. |
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| 21:54.31 | savasci | good night! i want to boot to linux but when i boot from debian partition grub command lines comes to screen, and i have no experience of it. what to do to run debian? |
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| 21:56.23 | kunzem | i'm trying to update perl modules with cpan on a machine with 256mb memory, and while updating perl gets killed by kernel due memory usage, is where any workarround? i could only find a way to raise the ulimit, but thats allready umlimited |
| 21:57.49 | mee | kunzem, that's very little RAM -- try dropping out of X and running the build from the shell if you aren't already |
| 21:59.07 | kunzem | its an box without x and anything, http://pastebin.com/khD1itYf |
| 21:59.49 | kunzem | it seems i have to enable swap to sdcard |
| 22:00.35 | mee | you can also control the behavior of the OOM killer with some sysctl setting |
| 22:00.47 | savasci | any suggestion for my problem? any one experienced with grub command line? |
| 22:00.50 | mee | I forget it's name, but remember it was silly.. 'killity' or something like that |
| 22:01.15 | kunzem | dmesg say its totaly run crazy *g* |
| 22:01.31 | kunzem | thought where is a simple way to limit perl |
| 22:02.43 | mee | check out http://lwn.net/Articles/317814/ |
| 22:02.49 | kunzem | yeah 84% waste |
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| 22:04.09 | kunzem | k will check thanks, but its only that update |
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| 22:20.47 | joshsmith | How can I generate a new rsa key pair in a different directory? |
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| 22:22.27 | xyan | just run ssh-keygen (assuming you want ssh keys) and say no to the overwrite question and specify another directory |
| 22:23.51 | joshsmith | so when I get: Overwrite (y/n)? n ...is n all I'm supposed to say? otherwise it just kicks me back |
| 22:23.56 | Tramp | ... or check the -f-option in the manual |
| 22:25.29 | xyan | joshsmith: it actually asks for the location at first, just specify something else tehre |
| 22:25.42 | joshsmith | xyan, Yeah I just figured it out, thanks |
| 22:26.38 | Pryon | If I attach a camera to my system via USB and I see log messages pertaining to that device which indicate that it is properly identified but see nothing about a filesystem, can I conclude that the camera is not accessible as a mass storage device? |
| 22:27.43 | joshsmith | xyan, how do I add the path so ssh knows where to look? |
| 22:28.20 | Tramp | Pryon: you should try to mount |
| 22:28.26 | xyan | joshsmith: ssh -i /path/to/key |
| 22:28.58 | Pryon | Tramp: Okay. I can try, but I'm not sure what device to use. I guess I'll try the next scsi device |
| 22:29.33 | joshsmith | xyan, it's just giving me back usage, not actually doing anything |
| 22:29.33 | Tramp | Pryon: well - don't you see a device in the output of dmesg? |
| 22:29.39 | Pryon | nope |
| 22:29.51 | xyan | Pryon: take a look at gphotofs / gphoto2 / gtkam |
| 22:30.01 | Tramp | Pryon: ah. well, I thought that what you meant by "properly identified" |
| 22:30.09 | xyan | joshsmith: right you have to specify a host of course ;) |
| 22:30.47 | Pryon | Tramp: That's what I meant by "nothing about a filesystem" :-) Sorry about the bad description. |
| 22:31.21 | Tramp | Pryon: that would not be a filesystem but a (block) device. |
| 22:32.06 | joshsmith | xyan, it's asking for a passphrase but I didn't make one, and saying "Permission denied (publickey). |
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| 22:34.06 | xyan | joshsmith: it shouldnt ask if you havent specified a passphrase, redo the key generation then. passphraseless keys are potential dangerous though |
| 22:34.32 | action09 | hi all, anyone know why CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK isn't available in .config ? i didn't see it also in vanilla kernel for x86 |
| 22:35.58 | xyan | action09: CONFIG |
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| 22:36.08 | xyan | action09: maybe CONFIG_IP_CONNTRACK ? |
| 22:36.20 | xyan | err CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK |
| 22:36.56 | action09 | xyan no http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/NF_CONNTRACK.html |
| 22:38.32 | action09 | in the 'old' tutorial on iptables www.frozentux.net, they talk about this one, needed for iptables. It's available in the last vanilla kernel (but not in x86 branch); and not available in Debian kernels, i'm searching in /boot/.config |
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| 22:39.16 | Tired | duh... I have a file with 'ï' in the filename... I set LANG to en_GB.UTF-8 and bash can complete the filename (although it does act up a bit on several tabs)... but I can't copy&paste it |
| 22:39.54 | Tired | the copy&paste buffer can hold ï... so is it the xterm itself? |
| 22:39.57 | Pryon | xyan: gphotofs seems to be doing the right thing. Thanks! |
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| 22:40.19 | action09 | xyan ho it's me it's obsolete. CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK (obsolete, available from 2.6.0 until 2.6.21) |
| 22:40.22 | action09 | sorry :) |
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| 22:48.19 | Empis | hi, can someone check my iptables setup? it doesnt block everything: http://pastebin.com/dF4t8pQd |
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| 22:48.38 | Empis | without my rules |
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| 22:50.27 | babilen | Empis: #netfilter might be eager to do so :) |
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| 22:51.02 | Empis | that shold works fine too |
| 22:51.14 | babilen | Empis: Ah, and please provide the "iptables -L" output |
| 22:51.40 | action09 | thinks that modules for Netfilter/iptables are going too fast :) |
| 22:52.05 | Empis | babilen: ah, there i saw someting :P |
| 22:52.09 | Empis | accept everyting, hmm |
| 22:52.11 | xyan | allowing tcp connections on port 1024-65535 ... whats left to block then? |
| 22:52.38 | Empis | hmm |
| 22:53.26 | xyan | dont think you need that portrange for apache since http is a 3way handsheek, client request on port 80 and the other port is opened by apache itself (imo not sure tho) |
| 22:54.08 | Empis | just for the clients, but im new to this, hmm |
| 22:54.23 | babilen | Empis: should be based on established ... |
| 22:54.30 | xyan | as babilen suggested ask the guys in #netfilter |
| 22:55.33 | Empis | babilen yxan, thanks! |
| 22:55.58 | babilen | Empis: And provide "iptables -L" for them ... much easier to comprehend ;) |
| 22:55.58 | xyan | tab completion for the win xD |
| 22:56.10 | Empis | :D |
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| 23:06.57 | tau | what are files whose extension is .au ? |
| 23:06.58 | pobega | Hey, just wondering how do I manually set an alternative to a script I made? I have a script to load up Uzbl a certain way and I'd like x-www-browser to point to that |
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| 23:08.47 | pobega | Sorry if that was worded horribly...I basically just want to use a script I made as x-www-browser in the alternatives system (you know, /etc/alternatives, update-alternatives, etc) |
| 23:09.45 | eli_ | Im having two computers in my room attached to one screen with a kwm-switch. This coses the screen resolution to be read wrong by my debian system. How could I make the OS reload the screen resoluion? |
| 23:10.51 | eli_ | PS this coses that sometimes the screen resolution is loaded wrong, but not always! |
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| 23:12.33 | eli_ | could someone please tell me how to reload screen resolution in debian? |
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| 23:16.24 | Bushmills | change resolution of X with xrandr |
| 23:17.42 | syslq | eli edit xorg.conf and restart x |
| 23:17.52 | eli_ | how would I restart x? |
| 23:18.26 | syslq | /etc/init.d/gdm restart , I dont think ctrl+alt+backspace is working these days |
| 23:18.45 | syslq | eli or some other display manager, I dont know what kde has |
| 23:19.09 | syslq | I guess you could just kill xserver process too |
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| 23:20.00 | eli_ | Im using gnome, thanks for the info! |
| 23:20.04 | syslq | np |
| 23:20.41 | syslq | eli why dont you just gui to change resolution then? |
| 23:20.47 | syslq | It's reloaded automatically |
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| 23:22.12 | Arrowmaster | does anybody happen to know where i can get a .deb for libx264-93? its not on debian multimedia anymore |
| 23:23.44 | ootput | Arrowmaster: use alien on rpm of same version |
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| 23:25.20 | ootput | Arrowmaster: what's wrong with -98? |
| 23:25.44 | Arrowmaster | the mplayer package im trying to reinstall needs -93 |
| 23:26.16 | ootput | which mplayer package? |
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| 23:26.22 | Arrowmaster | and old one |
| 23:26.29 | Arrowmaster | an old one |
| 23:28.18 | lmaowaffle | Arrowmaster: what's wrong with latest mplayer? |
| 23:28.19 | lmaowaffle | hehe |
| 23:28.44 | Arrowmaster | DTS audio on a file i have sounds like its skipping |
| 23:29.04 | Arrowmaster | and i want to test with an older version |
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| 23:31.22 | aguitel | anyone know when squueze become stable |
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| 23:32.26 | petemc | !wwsr |
| 23:32.26 | dpkg | Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/06/msg00002.html |
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| 23:39.50 | Devastator | is there a way to install hp printer drivers without X? |
| 23:40.04 | Devastator | I'm trying to install hplip and it wants to install x11 too |
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| 23:43.08 | syslq | Devastator: sure there is |
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| 23:44.27 | Devastator | syslq hum.. how? |
| 23:44.50 | syslq | Well there must be *something*.ko file in the installer |
| 23:46.03 | syslq | I'm guessing |
| 23:46.12 | syslq | Devastator: link? |
| 23:46.45 | Devastator | I'm trying aptitude install hplip |
| 23:47.35 | craigevil | try using -R |
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| 23:49.31 | syslq | Devastator: you dont need to install x, just dont use gui tools that's all |
| 23:49.49 | syslq | aptitude show hplip should explain it |
| 23:49.52 | syslq | night |
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| 23:50.45 | Devastator | I'm seeing the page, but it still wants to install x11 stuff |
| 23:50.54 | darkex | is there any way to see the bound ports on the os? |
| 23:51.17 | cthuluh | netstat |
| 23:51.23 | syslq | Devastator: it wants to install xorg or just gui utils? |
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| 23:52.16 | Devastator | well, maybe it's something related to cups |
| 23:52.28 | lmaowaffle | Devastator: prevent it from installing recommended packages |
| 23:52.55 | syslq | Devastator: just utils install driver and dont worry about it, or you could find the driver online, compile it as you wish and isntall it without that |
| 23:53.29 | syslq | I'm guessing it's open source |
| 23:54.13 | Devastator | yes it is |
| 23:54.28 | Devastator | I'm running out of space, perhaps I should reinstall the os |
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| 23:57.03 | syslq | Devastator: or add another drive :) |
| 23:57.16 | Devastator | nah hehe |
| 23:58.06 | darkex | hm' |
| 23:58.26 | darkex | is there anywhere where you can see what starts up on boot? |
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