| 00:00.00 | k8to | familiar to anyone? |
| 00:00.03 | fubada | dondelelcaro, E: Couldn't find package libemail-sender-perl |
| 00:00.12 | streuner | judd, versions libemail-sender-perl |
| 00:00.13 | judd | libemail-sender-perl -- sid: 0.101760-1; squeeze: 0.101760-1 |
| 00:00.42 | anigma | how come the network manager in gnome can't automatic find wireless networks? |
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| 00:01.07 | streuner | NM just sucks |
| 00:01.08 | k8to | locale reports en_US.utf8 as available, but that produces the same error |
| 00:01.13 | streuner | use something else |
| 00:01.16 | anigma | I was just trying the Live CD and I can't seem to log on to my wireless network |
| 00:01.40 | anigma | streuner: like what? |
| 00:01.42 | streuner | anigma: just read wiki.debian.org about wireless |
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| 00:01.53 | streuner | !listkeys wireless |
| 00:01.55 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'wireless' by key (15 of 16): #debian wireless ;; _default wireless ;; seattlewireless ;; what's my wireless ;; what-wireless ;; whats my wireless ;; wireless ;; wireless connection manager ;; wireless connection managers ;; wireless help ;; wireless howto ;; wireless lan ;; wireless tree ;; wireless-more ;; wireless-tools. |
| 00:02.15 | streuner | wireless howto sounds promising... |
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| 00:02.42 | streuner | dpkg, wireless howto |
| 00:02.42 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN HOWTO is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux Additional resources and links to related information/websites also available. See also http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi and http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse . Related: <wireless-tools>, <adhoc>, <hostapd>. |
| 00:02.57 | streuner | anigma: ^^^ |
| 00:03.25 | sam113101 | how do I search through installed packages ? |
| 00:04.03 | streuner | fubada: dondelelcaro already told you, if you using lenny/stable just /msg dpkg ssb in order to make a package out of sid for you lenny/stable box |
| 00:04.20 | streuner | sam113101: dpkg -l | grep <foo>? |
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| 00:04.50 | streuner | (that would just search about packages only) |
| 00:06.14 | streuner | sam113101: i think this is helpful too - /msg dpkg search |
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| 00:08.35 | streuner | fubada: what iam talking was dh-make-perl, but a existing package in Debian reduces headaches... |
| 00:08.42 | Mordbrann | what would be the best way to stream FLAC losslessly on a local network? |
| 00:09.09 | fubada | thanks |
| 00:09.14 | fubada | im looking for libemail-sender-perl in backports |
| 00:09.59 | fubada | its in sid |
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| 00:10.01 | fubada | but im lenny |
| 00:10.48 | Mordbrann | daap? PulseAudio? Tried nfs and of course mpd transcodes because I don't know of a player that can stream flac remotely |
| 00:10.52 | sam113101 | streuner, how do I know from which depot it comes from |
| 00:11.47 | fubada | can someone please share the deb-src for sidf |
| 00:11.48 | fubada | sif |
| 00:11.49 | fubada | sid |
| 00:11.56 | fubada | i need the url |
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| 00:12.28 | streuner | sam113101: Debian uses always the newest package which are available, depends, of course, on your sources.list |
| 00:12.36 | dondelelcaro | fubada: it's the same as your deb-src for lenny, but with sid instead of lenny |
| 00:12.38 | dondelelcaro | (or stable) |
| 00:12.40 | fubada | thanks |
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| 00:13.24 | lmaowaffle | hi folks. my .xerrors file shows http://paste2.org/p/925346 |
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| 00:13.42 | streuner | forget that |
| 00:13.45 | lmaowaffle | is this a bug with adobe flash available in 64bit squeeze? |
| 00:13.52 | streuner | nobody know what its in .xerrors |
| 00:14.10 | streuner | well, there is no support of Adobe for 64bit... |
| 00:14.32 | jhutchins_lt | fubada: You do understand that "sid" is "broken", right? |
| 00:14.40 | fubada | i jsut need some perl modules |
| 00:14.42 | fubada | without using cpan |
| 00:14.49 | lmaowaffle | how the .xerrors file was generated: http://paste2.org/p/925351 |
| 00:14.54 | Crusnik01 | Hi! I'm trying to run an application as another user, with respect to the set $HOME in /etc/passwd . I'm using the folling command to test: 'sudo -H -u user echo $HOME' , but it still returns the home path of the user I'm currently logged in with. What am I doing wrong? :/ |
| 00:15.09 | lmaowaffle | essentially &1 and &2 of executed application |
| 00:15.28 | lmaowaffle | streuner: sorry, are you being impossible? |
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| 00:16.23 | streuner | lmaowaffle: i just tell you the truth |
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| 00:16.31 | ootput | lmaowaffle: yes |
| 00:16.42 | streuner | .xerrors isnt helpful |
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| 00:17.05 | streuner | if there is no support for an package at all |
| 00:17.44 | shockka_ | Why does my computer explode when i turn it on i buy a new one and they all explode. Please help |
| 00:18.05 | komentarze_listy | hahaha... |
| 00:18.31 | lmaowaffle | streuner: clarify please |
| 00:19.04 | streuner | 64bit isnt supported anymore by Adobe <point> |
| 00:19.25 | jhutchins_lt | fubada: So you're going to backport them, right, not mix packages from different distributions? |
| 00:19.35 | lmaowaffle | streuner: i never claimed that they still did |
| 00:19.52 | lmaowaffle | bug reports for packages no-longer-supported still exist |
| 00:19.54 | jhutchins_lt | Q: What's more broken than sid? A: Something else mixed with sid. |
| 00:20.42 | ootput | lmaowaffle: read http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53036 |
| 00:20.45 | jhutchins_lt | Crusnik01: You're using the wrong tool. man su. |
| 00:21.18 | jhutchins_lt | shockka_: Did you make sure no-explode.exe was installed? |
| 00:22.01 | streuner | hehe |
| 00:24.21 | streuner | ootput: good work |
| 00:24.39 | ootput | streuner: pardon? |
| 00:24.42 | Crusnik01 | jhutchins_lt: But I need to be able to execute the application in the background. sudo has the -b option, but can this maybe be done with su ? |
| 00:24.56 | streuner | well, you know about the issue more |
| 00:25.09 | jhutchins_lt | Crusnik01: & |
| 00:25.12 | streuner | it gives more details about |
| 00:25.15 | jhutchins_lt | Crusnik01: Read the manpage. |
| 00:25.20 | ootput | yes |
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| 00:25.38 | ootput | - well, not about those errors specifically. |
| 00:25.56 | ootput | just the state of flash 64 in debian |
| 00:26.10 | streuner | that's enough, IMO |
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| 00:28.47 | ootput | lmaowaffle: you can change that .xerror redirect to exclude events from npviewer.bin |
| 00:29.34 | ootput | but as it has been pointed out, you're using unsupported software, on a testing branch no less |
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| 01:01.34 | shockka | *explodes* |
| 01:02.31 | Exploded | I Am Exploded Now |
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| 01:07.59 | handheldcar | I'm confused by deb faq ch 10 kernel compilation instructions. i recently compiled the latest libre kernel but didn't know to put -I/usr/src/linux/include/ in the command, and I don't see how to upgrade libc6-dev. |
| 01:08.28 | dondelelcaro | handheldcar: why are you compiling your own kernel, and why do you need to upgrade libc6-dev? |
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| 01:09.30 | handheldcar | to get rid of non-free blobs, and the faq that package needs to be upgraded to use the new headers. |
| 01:09.45 | dondelelcaro | handheldcar: our kernel doesn't contain non-free blobs |
| 01:10.02 | dondelelcaro | those are separated out into a separate package |
| 01:10.22 | dgeary2 | why are there 31 CDs in the checksums file but only 8 iso images at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/ ? |
| 01:10.24 | dondelelcaro | (well, it *may* have some, but those are generally bugs or cases where it's not clear if the blobs are copyrightable at all) |
| 01:10.58 | dondelelcaro | dgeary2: because there are actually 31 cds, but we don't distribute all 31 built on the mirrors; you assemble them yourself if you really need them |
| 01:11.30 | dgeary2 | dondelelcaro, cool, how do i do that? |
| 01:11.35 | dondelelcaro | dgeary2: the templates are here to assemble them using jigdo: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/jigdo-cd/ |
| 01:11.42 | dondelelcaro | dgeary2: but why do you want all 31 cds? |
| 01:12.08 | dgeary2 | dondelelcaro, personal preference |
| 01:12.53 | dondelelcaro | dgeary2: that's great, but it's not particularly logical; you almost certainly won't use more than a handful of packages on any cd beyond cd 6. |
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| 01:13.25 | dondelelcaro | but it's your time, bandwidth, and cds; do whatever you want |
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| 01:13.42 | dgeary2 | dondelelcaro, i appreciate that |
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| 02:04.04 | Bogus8 | Hello, I'm trying to run fuppes on 10.4 server... got it installed but when I run it, it gives me an "unable to open database file" from sqlite3 |
| 02:04.39 | Arrowmaster | is isc-dhcp-client taking over for dhcp3-client in sid? |
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| 02:08.40 | twiggz | 10.4 is not a version of debian, Bogus8 ? |
| 02:09.21 | twiggz | -?+. |
| 02:10.10 | twiggz | This is not a support channel for ubuntu. |
| 02:10.15 | Bogus8 | twiggz: yeah... I meant to post that to #ubuntu... but if you know of any reason fuppes is having problems with sqlite3 I'm all ears (eyes) |
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| 02:11.00 | twiggz | I dont. I suggest you keep trying to ask the zoo in #ubuntu. |
| 02:11.10 | Bogus8 | lol |
| 02:11.16 | twiggz | Noone here will help with ubuntu problems. |
| 02:11.48 | Bogus8 | I know... I run a couple of debian boxes also and my script logged me into this channel also and I wasn't paying attention |
| 02:12.51 | gnarface | Bogus8: i'll help with your ubuntu problem; INSTALL DEBIAN! |
| 02:12.57 | Bogus8 | gnarface: LOL |
| 02:13.28 | Bogus8 | I honestly have no preference one way or the other |
| 02:13.40 | Bogus8 | They have both served me well |
| 02:14.06 | Bogus8 | some of my more obscure programs ended up in ubuntu repos that's about the only thing I can say about that |
| 02:15.52 | twiggz | has ubuntu stopped becoming just a snapshot of debian unstable yet? |
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| 02:16.04 | Bogus8 | probably not |
| 02:16.18 | gnarface | twiggz: it's never given me even that much stability |
| 02:16.19 | twiggz | Or is it still begging for help with syncing with debian testing? |
| 02:16.25 | twiggz | (smarter choice_ |
| 02:16.30 | twiggz | ) |
| 02:17.25 | twiggz | gnarface: debian unstable is not meant to be stable or reliable....which is why poobuntu inherits so many of its bugs... |
| 02:17.38 | twiggz | testing is the more stable/safer choice. |
| 02:17.54 | twiggz | if you want a more cutting edge debian |
| 02:18.54 | twiggz | sid is full of broken pkgs and paper bag errors...thats why everytime i try a new sidux relese and tryto update it...its uber fail... |
| 02:19.27 | twiggz | ubuntu inherits those bugs from the debian unstable snapshot it swipes from debian.org |
| 02:19.41 | twiggz | which is why ubuntus releases are so buggy to start. |
| 02:19.56 | gnarface | i've had much better luck with debian unstable on nvidia motherboards with amd chips - but that's probably my own fault for spending so much time with bleeding-edge hardware |
| 02:22.17 | Bogus8 | I really don't have issues with Ubuntu... but then again I run server only.. no X |
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| 02:27.22 | gnarface | commits heinous sins by playing windows games on his linux desktop |
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| 02:30.37 | Bogus8 | Just don't try anything with flash... that's my main beef with a linux desktop system |
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| 02:41.11 | flipe_ | e aà |
| 02:41.18 | flipe_ | eu to com um problema no aptitude que é o seguinte |
| 02:41.40 | flipe_ | toda vez que eu tento instalar um pacote que seja ele tenta desinstalar um monte |
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| 02:43.05 | flipe_ | algo já conseguiu resolver esse problema? |
| 02:43.55 | Ex-Opesa | flipe_: English? ^_^ |
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| 02:44.37 | mmnicolas | flipe_: i understand that a bit |
| 02:44.39 | flipe_ | sorry |
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| 02:44.54 | flipe_ | I come from forumdebian.com.br |
| 02:44.58 | flipe_ | it is in portuguese |
| 02:45.03 | mmnicolas | you're installing a package and it tries to uninstall another ? |
| 02:45.06 | flipe_ | :D |
| 02:45.31 | flipe_ | mmnicolas: some others |
| 02:45.33 | mmnicolas | yea im french so it means something to me |
| 02:45.54 | flipe_ | some times more than 100 pkgs |
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| 02:46.46 | mmnicolas | flipe_: let it go if they seem unimportant |
| 02:46.50 | Ex-Opesa | flipe_ Which package you try to install which tries to uninstall more then 100 pkgs? :S |
| 02:47.06 | flipe_ | in moment anyone |
| 02:47.11 | mmnicolas | you probably previously uninstalled some other app which had a lot a dependencies that are no longer needed |
| 02:47.14 | flipe_ | but I trying install a removed package |
| 02:47.19 | flipe_ | libgstfarsight0.10-dev |
| 02:47.31 | flipe_ | and they want remove 64 pkgs |
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| 02:47.41 | flipe_ | not |
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| 02:48.02 | flipe_ | I update aptitude and this begin |
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| 02:48.20 | mmnicolas | type aptitude -f install |
| 02:48.26 | flipe_ | I do |
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| 02:48.43 | flipe_ | they remove 7 pkgs and continuos with this |
| 02:48.55 | flipe_ | *it remove |
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| 02:49.39 | mmnicolas | let it do it, unless you see something important |
| 02:50.02 | mmnicolas | you probably uninstalled a few big software recently ? |
| 02:50.12 | flipe_ | nope |
| 02:50.24 | mmnicolas | or upgrading from another release ? |
| 02:50.32 | flipe_ | nope |
| 02:50.49 | flipe_ | I use unstable so much time |
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| 02:52.10 | gnarface | i've seen this type of issue on debian ppc |
| 02:52.18 | gnarface | especially involving upgrading X |
| 02:52.27 | gnarface | it always seems like there are a bunch of blocked packages |
| 02:52.30 | gnarface | and if you install one of them |
| 02:52.42 | gnarface | it gets all the dependencies but uninstalls a ton of other stuff |
| 02:53.07 | mmnicolas | but this might still be pure coincidence |
| 02:53.25 | mmnicolas | no, it couldnt really |
| 02:53.48 | gnarface | sometimes i get better luck if i try a different repo |
| 02:54.03 | gnarface | sometimes i just wait a few weeks for the package dependencies to stabilize |
| 02:54.15 | mmnicolas | yea, broken repo most likely |
| 02:54.47 | flipe_ | deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 02:54.59 | flipe_ | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 02:55.04 | mmnicolas | try using another of the main one |
| 02:55.08 | flipe_ | I use twice |
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| 02:58.44 | flipe_ | someone knows a better unstable repo? |
| 02:59.23 | gnarface | it's a matter of timing |
| 02:59.46 | gnarface | if you catch them in the middle of updating i think it's broken almost implicitly |
| 03:00.16 | gnarface | i also thought the ftp.*.debian.org ones were fanout sites |
| 03:00.21 | mmnicolas | try a local repo in your area they may not be in exact sync with the main mirrors |
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| 03:00.45 | mmnicolas | gnarface: fanout ? |
| 03:01.05 | gnarface | i thought it's not a single server, but a request distributor for a block of servers, that may not all be in sync |
| 03:01.13 | gnarface | am i wrong about that? |
| 03:01.35 | mmnicolas | tought it was a big cluster in a datacenter somewhere |
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| 03:02.07 | mmnicolas | if it was a load balancer of some sort |
| 03:02.21 | mmnicolas | we should see the server host change when downloading packages |
| 03:02.51 | gnarface | yea probably |
| 03:03.54 | gnarface | i usually just try the mirrors.kernel.org one if ftp.us.debian.org seems to be misbehaving |
| 03:06.12 | gnarface | flipe_: http://mirror.debian.org/status.html theoretically you should be able to find a completely kosher mirror using this list |
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| 03:08.30 | simonrvn | it's round robin the .debian.org ones. the main one is anyway. the rest it depends. |
| 03:08.55 | simonrvn | ftp.debian.org is a) round robin b) shouldn't be used by end users |
| 03:11.31 | zebradog | hears the robins singing |
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| 03:14.42 | sanjoyd | Hi! I needed a 32 bit x86 system - can I simply install Debian x86 on an AMD64 system and use it as one? |
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| 03:16.04 | sanjoyd | Specifically, is there any difference between Debian x86 running on an amd64 system and one running on a 'real' x86 system? |
| 03:16.13 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:16.23 | Arrowmaster | well maybe but not really |
| 03:16.38 | sanjoyd | Arrowmaster, thanks! |
| 03:16.49 | sanjoyd | If this works out, I'll end up saving a lot of my time. |
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| 03:22.30 | flipe_ | to I use pidgin aptitude remove 64 pkgs! |
| 03:22.37 | flipe_ | it's bad! |
| 03:23.15 | gnarface | when is the last time you updated pidgin on this box, flipe_ ? |
| 03:23.32 | flipe_ | pidgin was compiled |
| 03:23.42 | flipe_ | but the version is 2.7.1 |
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| 03:29.30 | cafaro | do you have gnome? |
| 03:29.39 | flipe_ | yeah |
| 03:29.44 | flipe_ | only for tests |
| 03:29.48 | flipe_ | i use xfce |
| 03:30.42 | simonrvn | !tell flipe_ -about ssb |
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| 03:46.25 | smv | i'm trying to install grub-pc from a sid chroot and before is installed it destroys my partitions. http://paste.debian.net/hidden/b0416cc9/ what can i do to install it properly? |
| 03:48.19 | cast | what is grub-pc? |
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| 03:50.14 | simonrvn | grub2 |
| 03:50.40 | cast | ahh. |
| 03:51.32 | gnarface | lemme just be the first to say this |
| 03:51.39 | gnarface | i don't like grub2 |
| 03:51.54 | gnarface | they made the config file structure needlessly complex and i don't understand it and i fear change |
| 03:52.35 | dondelelcaro | smv: sounds like the device.map is wrong, and it's trying to install it to c0d0p5 instead of c0d0 |
| 03:52.45 | smv | for a momment i was thinking that the cciss module wasn;t loaded, but it is. using a standard lenny installer worked, but i want sid that's why the whole chroot thing. i'm ok with grub's config files, it this odd behaviour to destroy partitions that kills me... |
| 03:53.05 | dondelelcaro | smv: is there any reason why you're installing grub in the chroot? |
| 03:53.06 | smv | dondelelcaro, in the menu it sees the c0d0 and i selected that. |
| 03:53.28 | dondelelcaro | smv: that's when you installed grub on the main lenny partition, I assume, right? |
| 03:53.29 | smv | how else am i supposed to make install grub? |
| 03:54.12 | smv | am reinstalling sid on a clean partition scheme |
| 03:55.21 | smv | the menu that showed c0d0 was the one in the sid's grub-pc installation |
| 03:55.48 | gnarface | is c0d0 the mbr of that disk? |
| 03:55.54 | smv | yup |
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| 03:57.15 | smv | c0d0 it's a drive made of 2 disks in hardware raid 1+0, or atleast that's what the bios said. |
| 03:57.26 | dondelelcaro | smv: which raid is this? |
| 03:58.18 | smv | really don't know, the other option was raid 0. i guess it's some sort of mirroring thing |
| 03:58.30 | dondelelcaro | hrm; probably a DL380 or something |
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| 03:58.39 | smv | ML350 G3 actually |
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| 03:59.31 | dondelelcaro | smv: anyway, it looks like grub has a bug where it's unable to properly detect the device map; you'll have to do the install manually |
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| 04:00.07 | smv | now, the installation on the raid0 thing with the lenny instaler worked fine. |
| 04:00.30 | smv | what should i do to install grub manually withouth destroing the partitions? |
| 04:01.05 | dondelelcaro | smv: just save the partition layout using sfdisk, install the grub package, then run the grub shell to set it up manually |
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| 04:02.05 | gnarface | i've seen grub have this issue in cases where for some reason the bios lies to grub about the drive order |
| 04:02.28 | Arrowmaster | smv: sounds like fakeraid |
| 04:02.29 | gnarface | not really grub's fault if the bios detects the drives in one order and they change after POST |
| 04:02.46 | gnarface | yea when i saw this issue it was with a fakeraid card |
| 04:02.55 | Arrowmaster | smv: you probably want to use linux software raid if you arent planning to dualboot |
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| 04:03.31 | dondelelcaro | yeah; it's a pretty typical problem for fakeraid |
| 04:03.45 | gnarface | the solution ended up being a combination of putting the SATA raid card into PATA compatibility mode then doing some sort of manual drive assignment in grub |
| 04:04.06 | gnarface | (into PATA compatibility mode at the bios level) |
| 04:04.07 | smv | alright. i thinks it's a fake raid too. problem is that i have no idea how to use software raid, as the controle can;t use the drives by themselves, unles their put in some sort of raid. |
| 04:04.25 | dondelelcaro | smv: the controller should have a jbod mode |
| 04:04.30 | smv | the disks are SCSI actually, not SATA |
| 04:04.33 | Arrowmaster | jbod is not what you want |
| 04:04.37 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 04:04.41 | gnarface | hmm. |
| 04:04.49 | Arrowmaster | i doubt they are fakeraid then if they are SCSI |
| 04:05.05 | gnarface | seriously there's no way to access them as individual drives? |
| 04:05.08 | smv | raid 1+0 with only 2 disks then? is that real? |
| 04:05.16 | gnarface | what raid card is this again? |
| 04:05.26 | Arrowmaster | ive not heard of that before on a hardware raid |
| 04:05.36 | Arrowmaster | for just 2 disks |
| 04:06.17 | smv | how do i check wich raid card it is? |
| 04:06.48 | gnarface | lspci |
| 04:06.56 | Arrowmaster | stupid answer, open the case |
| 04:07.02 | gnarface | it's probably mentioned in dmesg as well as at post |
| 04:07.21 | phorce1 | thinks running 'aptitude install [pkgname]' when you have a complete mirror on a USB drive is just awesome |
| 04:07.42 | smv | 02:02.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 64xx (rev 01) |
| 04:07.45 | gnarface | at post you can probably also find out the bios version. sometimes that's useful if you've got buggy firmware on the raid controller |
| 04:08.01 | smv | Arrowmaster, am working remote, quite difficult to open the case :)) |
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| 04:08.19 | gnarface | Compaq???? |
| 04:08.24 | gnarface | shivers |
| 04:08.35 | smv | the bios and also any other thing that was upgradeable was upgraded. well, HP, anyway |
| 04:09.18 | gnarface | smv: have you had a chance to poke at the pre-boot bios configuration panel of this raid card? |
| 04:10.02 | smv | someone else did for me, and said there is nothing but 3 options, of which only 2 worked. raid 0 and raid 1+0, the other was raid 5. |
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| 04:11.35 | Arrowmaster | well you cant do raid 5 with only 2 drives |
| 04:11.44 | smv | i know that :)) |
| 04:11.50 | cast | sure you can, just not very well |
| 04:12.01 | cast | hides |
| 04:12.11 | gnarface | 0 is mirroring, 1+0 is mirrored striping. those both have a 2 drive minimum |
| 04:12.13 | smv | i guess it's pointless anyway, even if might work |
| 04:12.29 | cast | 1 is mirroring, yo |
| 04:12.51 | smv | actually the 0 thing was some sort of stripping? the space resulted was the sum of the 2 disks |
| 04:12.55 | gnarface | oh sorry, 0 is just unmirrored striping |
| 04:12.58 | gnarface | i was wrong |
| 04:13.18 | cast | 1+0 would require at least 4 devices, |
| 04:13.40 | gnarface | not according to wikipedia. 0+1 requires 4 but 1+0 can be done with only 2 - you just don't get any speed benefits |
| 04:13.49 | smv | so i guess from a safety point of view, 1+0 would be better than 0. |
| 04:14.24 | gnarface | i'm not sure it makes a whole lot of difference with only two drives |
| 04:14.32 | gnarface | if one starts to die you gotta replace it either way |
| 04:14.45 | smv | believe me, there is no speed gain. tried to use LVm on this, and while pvcreate and vgcreate worked fine, and finished in like 2 seconds, lvcreate hanged for more than 20 minutes, and never finished. |
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| 04:15.04 | gnarface | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID |
| 04:15.28 | smv | well, atleast i don't loose all the datea before i have a chance to recover it. as i have no other backup plan atm |
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| 04:16.00 | gnarface | i've seen LVM hang like that on fakeraid - sata mind you, because the drives dma wasn't being detected, it was trying to stripe the array in PIO mode.... it might have finished in a couple weeks. |
| 04:16.18 | smv | i thought so too :)) |
| 04:16.53 | smv | well, since thise c0d0 disk will have only 4 partitons, i guess there's no need for LVmactually |
| 04:16.54 | cast | gnarface: describe to me a 1+0 setup with 2 disks :) |
| 04:17.12 | smv | i think it just mirrors? |
| 04:17.36 | cast | so...that gets us the 1 |
| 04:18.00 | gnarface | cast: *shrug* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID |
| 04:18.03 | gnarface | it's on there |
| 04:18.08 | gnarface | i'm not saying i've ever tried it |
| 04:18.15 | gnarface | i'm not saying wikipedia only tells the truth either |
| 04:18.54 | gnarface | with only two disks i'd be tempted just to go for plain old raid 1 |
| 04:19.12 | smv | if the controler would've let you to do that... |
| 04:21.03 | gnarface | smv: is this lenny? |
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| 04:21.40 | smv | well, raid 0, as the raid controler thinks it is, was used for lenny and it worked |
| 04:22.17 | smv | it's sid, on this 1+0 thing, or atleast i'm trying to :)) |
| 04:25.15 | smv | i guess i'll just save the partition layout and try instaling grub manually, but thank you all for all the hints. am starting to understand what actually is going on in here, and believe me it was a long week fighting with this oddity :)) |
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| 04:59.16 | wally1337 | how do I update my initrd? |
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| 04:59.59 | smv | update-initramfs -u |
| 05:03.49 | wally1337 | ty |
| 05:04.43 | wally1337 | smv im getting a cant find /lib/modules error |
| 05:04.56 | wally1337 | could this be because my upgraded kernel doesnt support my fs/hdd? |
| 05:05.15 | smv | which kernel? |
| 05:05.29 | wally1337 | 2.6.34.1 from 2.6.26 |
| 05:05.48 | wally1337 | on an ibm thinkpad x31 pentium m 1.6ghz |
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| 05:07.43 | wally1337 | im not on that machine at the moment |
| 05:07.48 | hello | hello |
| 05:08.18 | smv | wally1337, i tought so :) but i'm not sure i can really help, perhaps others might. |
| 05:08.42 | hello | smv |
| 05:08.53 | smv | lo hello |
| 05:09.08 | hello | haha am back |
| 05:09.58 | hello | thinking how to deactivate account after specified period if user not loged back in |
| 05:10.02 | hello | any idea ? |
| 05:12.28 | smv | perhaps man usermod will be a first start. never tried that yet, as i don't have many users :)) |
| 05:14.12 | hello | red man usermod ? |
| 05:14.22 | hello | read* |
| 05:14.49 | smv | yup. i think |
| 05:15.42 | hello | if thier data store in mysql database |
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| 05:16.20 | smv | then it's even more above my knowledge :)) |
| 05:16.29 | hello | php script? |
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| 05:18.11 | hello | i got ths |
| 05:18.13 | hello | You can add another field on your users table named 'activity' where you can flag a user as 'active' or 'inactive.' That way whenever you query the database you just have to "SELECT * FROM users WHERE activity = 'active'" so that it won't show your inactive users |
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| 05:20.04 | moldovean | hello, ask #mysql |
| 05:20.40 | smv | greets moldovean |
| 05:20.46 | hello | yeah yeah ;) |
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| 05:21.41 | hello | took his books ,hidin behind them ,taking his sym to mysql hehe |
| 05:21.45 | moldovean | smv nta ;) |
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| 05:32.59 | ice799 | Hi there. I found this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/gdb/+bug/78875 |
| 05:33.17 | ice799 | I am capable of fixing the bug, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it the debian way. |
| 05:33.38 | ice799 | I suppose I should email the package maintainer with a patch or something? |
| 05:34.10 | cast | or enter in bts |
| 05:34.40 | ice799 | oh wait hrm |
| 05:34.46 | ice799 | at the bottom it says "Fix released." |
| 05:35.04 | ice799 | I tried apt-get update, and apt-get install gdb but no new version was installed |
| 05:35.26 | ice799 | Maybe the package is fixed but not released to the "package pool" or something? |
| 05:35.34 | ice799 | (I have no idea how debian packaging works) |
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| 05:36.41 | sweetpi | , versions gdb |
| 05:36.43 | judd | gdb -- etch: 6.4.90.dfsg-1; lenny: 6.8-3; squeeze: 7.0.1-2+b1; sid: 7.1-1+b1 |
| 05:37.18 | sweetpi | that fix is from 6.8.50.20090628-1 |
| 05:37.50 | ice799 | The version I have on my amd64 Lenny install is: GNU gdb 6.8-debian |
| 05:38.20 | ice799 | So probably I need something newer. |
| 05:38.59 | ice799 | OK, sweetpi, can I ask probably a stupid question? Is it possible to install gdb 7 from squeeze to my Lenny install? I presume doing that would be bad beacuse it would pull in a whole slew of updated packages I don't have, right? |
| 05:40.12 | joelmichael | ice799: use backports, http://www.backports.org |
| 05:40.58 | ice799 | joelmichael: Hrm, it seems that it is discontinued ? |
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| 05:41.17 | joelmichael | etch was discontinued, you're using lenny |
| 05:41.37 | ice799 | oh i see |
| 05:41.41 | ice799 | i'll give that a try |
| 05:41.43 | sweetpi | gdb isnt in backports for lenny from what i can tell |
| 05:41.46 | craigevil | if it was in backports judd would have shown it, ice799 /msg dpkg ssb |
| 05:41.51 | ice799 | oh |
| 05:41.53 | ice799 | :C |
| 05:42.28 | joelmichael | hmm you'll have to install it from testing then |
| 05:42.50 | ice799 | kind of scary |
| 05:42.57 | ice799 | im afraid of what else it will pull in |
| 05:43.08 | craigevil | no do not install it from testing, backport it yourself |
| 05:43.14 | craigevil | !ssb |
| 05:43.14 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <backports.org>. If unavailable: 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list 2) enable backports.org (see <bpo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 05:43.15 | sweetpi | gdb doesnt have that many deps |
| 05:44.02 | craigevil | it depends on libc6, if it pulls that in from testing your system is going to be broken |
| 05:44.09 | ice799 | yes. |
| 05:44.19 | ice799 | so wait doing it the method dpkg just output wont pull in other deps? |
| 05:44.30 | ice799 | it'll just build it locally on my system using whatever i have and it may or may not work? |
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| 05:44.38 | ice799 | sorry im completely ignorant of how debian works. |
| 05:44.53 | craigevil | !tell ice799 about ssb |
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| 05:46.06 | sweetpi | sorry, i wasnt suggesting actually adding a testing repo. just checking deps on gdb |
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| 05:48.13 | ice799 | OK so I started followin those direction craigevil |
| 05:48.24 | ice799 | I am seeing apt trying to install a bunch of packages to satisfy build deps |
| 05:48.29 | ice799 | but I have no idea what this means: dvipdfmx{a} |
| 05:48.31 | ice799 | {a} ? |
| 05:49.01 | simonrvn | means it's beig auto-installed |
| 05:49.07 | simonrvn | being* |
| 05:49.14 | simonrvn | man aptitude; man apt-get |
| 05:49.58 | ice799 | OK but are those being installed from testing? I guess not since I only added a deb-src .. sid right? |
| 05:50.06 | ice799 | Those are coming from backports or lenny? |
| 05:52.26 | moldovean | ice799, backport your data , and install squeeze , quick way , other vise you'll lost a week(end) doing it |
| 05:53.22 | joelmichael | are you sure you need gdb 7 |
| 05:53.52 | ice799 | i just need a version of gdb with this bug fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/gdb/+bug/78875 |
| 05:54.09 | ice799 | If that pacakge is updated can I just build that version specifically and install that? |
| 05:54.37 | ice799 | it does say 'fix released' at the top, but i have no idea how to get the fix. |
| 05:55.11 | joelmichael | you could always just compile it from source and install it in /usr/local too |
| 05:55.29 | ice799 | Yes, I am considering that. |
| 05:56.00 | ice799 | I was hoping maybe I could find the debian gdb package with the fix under source control somewhere, check it out, build the deb, and install that. |
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| 06:02.10 | ManBlue | I destroyed my grub and mbr in one evening, can anyone show me how to fix it from the live CD Im on |
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| 06:04.30 | biaet | hi guys, i find a bug in debian package named pdnsd. for in the start script "/etc/init.d/pdnsd", it read the config from "/usr/share/pdnsd/pdnsd-recurse.conf", not "/etc/pdnsd.conf". really confused me. |
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| 06:06.01 | agike | I have just downloaded a file with ext: ._go .. any advice on decompressing it ? |
| 06:06.39 | Arafangion | How do I get my debian laptop onto wifi using the command line only? |
| 06:07.13 | Arafangion | iwconfig reports eth2 as having wireless extensions, but I don't have a wlan0 entry. |
| 06:07.35 | Arafangion | If I use eth2 regardless in /etc/network/interfaces, it appears to jump directly to dhcp. |
| 06:08.40 | Arafangion | This is with teh 2.6.26-2-686 kernel, and I have installed the firmware. |
| 06:09.44 | sweetpi | Arafangion: what type of encryption? |
| 06:10.04 | Arafangion | Probably plain WEP. |
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| 06:10.30 | Arafangion | Yup, it's WEP. |
| 06:10.41 | sweetpi | then all you should need is essid and key using iwconfig |
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| 06:11.36 | Arafangion | How do I configure that in /etc/network/interfaces, though? |
| 06:12.37 | sweetpi | wireless-essid and wireless-key iirc |
| 06:13.14 | Arafangion | How do you find that out? It's certainly not in the man page. |
| 06:13.27 | rozie | Arafangion: there's such thing as google ;) |
| 06:13.30 | rozie | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045 |
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| 06:13.50 | hideo | Arafangion: man wireless |
| 06:13.58 | rozie | Arafangion: you can also use wicd. it has both gui and cli client |
| 06:14.03 | hideo | Arafangion: /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian |
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| 06:14.12 | sweetpi | Arafangion: actually it is, if you have wireless-tools installed |
| 06:14.38 | Arafangion | hideo: That's useful, thanks. |
| 06:14.44 | hideo | np |
| 06:15.27 | rozie | it calls wicd-curses |
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| 06:15.56 | Arafangion | WOrks flawlessly now. :) Thanks! |
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| 06:48.12 | gh0st3r | got a linux desktop here on the internal network, all the windows hosts on the internal network (192.168.50.0/24) can connect/ping to all the hosts on the DMZ (192.168.40.0/24) except this linux desktop im o |
| 06:48.20 | gh0st3r | this linux desktop can connect to the internet |
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| 06:48.27 | gh0st3r | any ideas? |
| 06:48.47 | sweetpi | compare the routing tables |
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| 06:50.30 | gh0st3r | sweetpi, theres no difference |
| 06:50.34 | gh0st3r | thats what im having problems with |
| 06:51.23 | Arafangion | gh0st3r: Check them anyway. |
| 06:51.49 | alcy | folks, am having problems with preseeding passwords for certain packages. are there any restrictions on cleartext passwords or something like that ? |
| 06:51.53 | gh0st3r | Arafangion, they both just contain a default route for the gw |
| 06:52.03 | gh0st3r | which is the firewall between the DMZ and internal |
| 06:52.21 | Arafangion | gh0st3r: What's the netmask? |
| 06:52.39 | gh0st3r | its a default route so none |
| 06:53.36 | Arafangion | gh0st3r: Unless something is messed up, you will have TWO entries in your routing table, at least. |
| 06:53.48 | Arafangion | gh0st3r: And the non-default will have a netmask. |
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| 06:54.29 | gh0st3r | Arafangion one sec |
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| 06:54.44 | gh0st3r | ok i got three |
| 06:54.50 | gh0st3r | one of them is for the internal network |
| 06:54.54 | gh0st3r | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 06:54.58 | gh0st3r | and then link-local |
| 06:55.00 | gh0st3r | and then default |
| 06:55.20 | Arafangion | What are the details of the link-local route? |
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| 06:55.52 | gh0st3r | thats od |
| 06:55.54 | gh0st3r | odd* |
| 06:55.56 | gh0st3r | its just come up |
| 06:56.01 | gh0st3r | ping-wise |
| 06:56.17 | gh0st3r | Arafangion thanks for the help, but im going to start pouring through logs to find out why it just came up |
| 06:57.02 | Arafangion | gh0st3r: Have fun. |
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| 06:59.58 | shazbotmcnasty | I was wondering if anyone has installed HPLIP and if they had any problems with it |
| 07:00.04 | shazbotmcnasty | if they did, what was their work around |
| 07:01.38 | Arafangion | shazbotmcnasty: That sounds like a question easily answered by google. |
| 07:02.29 | sweetpi | havent used it since etch, but cant remember having any problems |
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| 07:07.00 | shazbotmcnasty | Arafangion: yeah it's not |
| 07:07.03 | shazbotmcnasty | i've tried |
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| 07:11.39 | alcy | >folks, how do I bring a xen domain to a pristine/clean state. I have messed my VMs quite much and would like to erase all of their data akin to formatting an instalaltion. |
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| 07:12.57 | jblx | alcy: rm -rf / |
| 07:13.04 | jblx | on your domU |
| 07:13.06 | DogBoy | wouldn't you better ask that question in #xen |
| 07:13.12 | jblx | snickers |
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| 07:16.22 | simonrvn | jblx: don't do that again. you can get kickbanned for that or worse |
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| 07:17.00 | jelly-hme | also it won't exactly do what alcy wanted |
| 07:17.37 | jblx | OH NO |
| 07:17.38 | jblx | KICKBANNED? |
| 07:17.39 | jblx | fuck you. |
| 07:18.07 | liable | someone needs to get laid.. |
| 07:18.58 | jelly-hme | simonrvn: I'll figure out a question where "rm -rf /" is a valid answer and they you'll all be sorry! |
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| 07:19.52 | simonrvn | fuck me? pff, no thanks. |
| 07:20.24 | alcy | the problem is weird. I synced the host OS date with one of ntp server, brought it to the right date and time. and now that has messed up ssl configuration or certificates on the VMs. so basically I can't log into them. |
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| 07:21.17 | simonrvn | jelly-hme: context ;) |
| 07:21.40 | simonrvn | you lost an o again |
| 07:21.45 | jelly-hme | alcy: even with console access? |
| 07:21.47 | simonrvn | give jelly-hme an 'o' |
| 07:22.05 | jelly-hmeo | \o/ |
| 07:22.44 | liable | hehe |
| 07:22.44 | simonrvn | that's odd, wth would a vm's certs do that, unless they were expiring? |
| 07:22.48 | simonrvn | haha |
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| 07:23.15 | alcy | jelly-hme: you mean console access through xm console <VM-name> ? yeah, not even that. |
| 07:23.32 | autopsy | What does Debian's graphical installer use as far as programming language? |
| 07:24.03 | simonrvn | tui, or gui? :P |
| 07:24.09 | autopsy | The GUI. |
| 07:24.29 | liable | c++ iirc |
| 07:24.38 | simonrvn | perl, c, c++. depends which bits. |
| 07:24.45 | autopsy | The graphical part. |
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| 07:24.50 | autopsy | GTK/Python? |
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| 07:25.13 | autopsy | The progress bars, buttons etc. |
| 07:25.21 | simonrvn | good question, haven't looked in a while. |
| 07:25.42 | autopsy | The reason I ask is because, it sort of resembles.. Anaconda, Fedora's installer interface. |
| 07:25.57 | simonrvn | probably because it uses gtk... |
| 07:26.26 | autopsy | Ah. |
| 07:26.54 | simonrvn | basic gtk2 looks like that everywhere ;) |
| 07:26.54 | autopsy | What is popcorn? |
| 07:27.17 | simonrvn | hands autopsy a dict client |
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| 07:28.12 | autopsy | Well, that would help only if Debian's software was in the dictionary, it says "Configuring popcorn" |
| 07:28.32 | simonrvn | it does not say that. look again. |
| 07:28.51 | autopsy | It said installing or configuring popcorn. |
| 07:28.57 | autopsy | I wouldn't lie. What is it? |
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| 07:29.19 | simonrvn | you're not actually reading, you're interpreting. |
| 07:29.23 | phorce1 | is wpa-supplicant required if connecting to a "wide open" wifi router (it just uses MAC filtering) |
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| 07:29.53 | autopsy | simonrvn, ok. It isn't on the screen anymore it went past that, but what is it? |
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| 07:29.58 | sweetpi | it was popcon |
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| 07:30.04 | simonrvn | !popcon |
| 07:30.04 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ |
| 07:30.30 | autopsy | Hm. You could be right. I swear I read it three times before asking. |
| 07:30.54 | sweetpi | phorce1: no |
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| 07:31.30 | simonrvn | most of the time we skim things, and sometimes we don't look carefully enough. it's just how our brains works, nothing personal, fyi. |
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| 07:31.43 | phorce1 | now has a wlan0 showing up but dhcp is not doing its thing. Same card was in a winbox last week, connected to the same router, and worked |
| 07:32.03 | phorce1 | lemme try static to see if they're talking |
| 07:32.28 | simonrvn | don't get too close, that static can be harmful ;p |
| 07:32.39 | autopsy | simonrvn, think it is a typo? |
| 07:32.56 | autopsy | simonrvn, I'll look again later see if it says popcon or popcorn. |
| 07:33.15 | simonrvn | is sure it says popcon |
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| 07:35.00 | cast | hmm, i installed the kvm package, though ive never used kvm in etch before, i have svm extensions, when i start a vm the window border just says 'qemu', my recollection from etch was that it would save 'kvm' if it was using the svm extensions and 'qemu' if it wasn't, is that correct? |
| 07:35.09 | hanibanaa | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.26 | phorce1 | no such luck --- no electricity at all. ping 192.168.1.1 fails miserably. iwconfig says --- mode: managed -- access point: not associated -- tx power: 20dbm |
| 07:35.27 | cast | s/used kvm in etch before/used kvm in lenny before/ |
| 07:36.01 | sweetpi | phorce1: are you setting the essid? |
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| 07:36.53 | phorce1 | sweetpi: where? I didn't see that on any man pages or howtos I scanned except where wpa-supplicant mentions the ssid |
| 07:37.45 | sweetpi | phorce1: "iwconfig wlan0 essid yourssid" or wireless-essid in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:38.34 | phorce1 | sweetpi: thx -- trying now (after I go check to see what I have it set to) |
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| 07:41.07 | cast | ahh, ctrl-alt-2 info kvm says enabled :) |
| 07:42.03 | phorce1 | sweetpi: thank you. That was it -- one missing line (plus installing a bpo kernel just to get support for the stupid card) |
| 07:42.30 | sweetpi | phorce1: np |
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| 07:43.07 | phorce1 | it is now 0242 and /me needs to be back at the office at 0800. gnight all |
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| 07:46.40 | p3rror | Good morning |
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| 08:15.39 | SparFux1 | Does anybody have an idea how to track down local loopback 127.0.0.1 stalling? Problem is described here: http://www.alice-dsl.net/jkl345/net.txt |
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| 08:17.10 | dcbevins | ipv6 maybe |
| 08:17.28 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: I tried turning ipv6 off. doesn't help. |
| 08:17.54 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: and I have been told on #networking that ipv6 can't be the problem anyway, because I am using 127.0.0.1 which is ipv4 definitely. |
| 08:18.17 | SparFux1 | perhaps some sysctl variable has changed or whatever. I am out fo idea.s |
| 08:18.18 | fxiny | exactly , leave ipv6 lines in /etc/hosts |
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| 08:19.17 | SparFux1 | fxiny: I put them in again. |
| 08:19.31 | SparFux1 | What does net.ipv4.ip_nonlocal_bind sysctl do? |
| 08:19.39 | dcbevins | is the box taxed or overloaded? |
| 08:20.10 | SparFux1 | overloaded? no |
| 08:20.19 | SparFux1 | one internet connection. |
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| 08:20.28 | SparFux1 | What does net.ipv4.conf.eth0.accept_local sysctl do? |
| 08:20.37 | fxiny | SparFux1: check /etc/network/interfaces for # The loopback interface |
| 08:20.56 | fxiny | auto lo and iface lo inet loopback |
| 08:21.13 | SparFux1 | iface lo inet loopback |
| 08:21.27 | SparFux1 | fxiny: it's in there. |
| 08:22.01 | dcbevins | what about if you use the ip address to connect and not localhost address? |
| 08:22.02 | fxiny | two lines : auto lo next line is iface lo inet loopback |
| 08:22.32 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: good idea. stalls too. |
| 08:22.50 | SparFux1 | fxiny: yes, I got those two lines and ip ad show and ifconfig lo show correct iface. |
| 08:23.34 | SparFux1 | Even 192.168.123.108 times out frequently. |
| 08:24.02 | SparFux1 | it seems to be nothing about lo on its own, but every thing that tries to connect to my machine on whatever interface. |
| 08:24.30 | dcbevins | something in the iptables |
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| 08:24.55 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: tried flushing all iptables and doesn't help. |
| 08:25.06 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: used iptables policy ACCEPT => doesn't help. |
| 08:25.14 | fxiny | ssh ? is it listening to 127.0.0.1 ? not in here ... |
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| 08:26.12 | SparFux1 | fxiny: even if not, the ting shouldn't hang, but say connection refused. like in telnet. there is not telnetd here and I get connection refused. But most of the time it hangs and times out. |
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| 08:26.17 | dcbevins | is the inet supervisor running |
| 08:26.26 | egonw | moin.... short packaging question... maintainers guide has debian/ folder (and that I know from long before), but 'dpkg --build foo' talks about DEBIAN/ ... what's up with this casing inconsistency? |
| 08:26.28 | dcbevins | whatever its called i cant remember |
| 08:26.32 | SparFux1 | Yes: root 16921 0.0 0.0 10252 644 ? Ss 08:02 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd |
| 08:26.45 | SparFux1 | supervisor? |
| 08:26.56 | djura-san | o/ |
| 08:27.03 | aiyu | hii all, i cant find usb-creator in my synaptic package manager , please help me |
| 08:27.38 | fxiny | SparFux1: what about your /etc/hosts ? |
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| 08:28.08 | SparFux1 | hosts says: 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 08:28.16 | SparFux1 | fxiny: but I am using ip number. not name. |
| 08:28.20 | Arrowmaster | , versions usb-creator |
| 08:28.22 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'usb-creator' was found. |
| 08:28.29 | SparFux1 | ping works ok, ssh and telnet fail frequently, sometimes work. |
| 08:28.32 | Arrowmaster | aiyu: there is no package by that name |
| 08:28.47 | nsadmin2 | so this is weird... this happened on both wireleee hardware I have, a usb one and a minipci... on boot, it tries and usually succeeds in getting a connection to the wap, and an address to use, but not a default route. but when I ifdown/iifupm the route is added fine (or if I hadd it manually) |
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| 08:29.07 | fxiny | SparFux1: netstat -alnp --protocol=inet | grep -v CLOSE_WAIT | cut -c-6,21-94 | tail -n +2 |
| 08:29.13 | SparFux1 | killed inetd, does not help. |
| 08:29.40 | fxiny | if ain't listening can't answer ;) |
| 08:29.54 | SparFux1 | http://pastebin.com/nZGKXPZS |
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| 08:30.05 | fxiny | that's why a firewall could be useless |
| 08:30.21 | SparFux1 | fxiny: I don't get it. |
| 08:31.12 | fxiny | show can you connect to ssh like "ssh 127.0.0.1 only sometimes works, most times I get timeout" ? is it listening ? |
| 08:31.22 | SparFux1 | fxiny: and then sometimes it immediately says: connection refused. and other times it hangs for minutes and times out? |
| 08:31.42 | SparFux1 | tcp  0.0.0.0:22        0.0.0.0:*        LISTEN    -       |
| 08:31.43 | fxiny | s/show/how |
| 08:31.49 | SparFux1 | it's listening I'd say. |
| 08:31.58 | SparFux1 | it bound to 0.0.0.0 |
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| 08:32.06 | fxiny | yours not mine |
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| 08:32.14 | SparFux1 | fxiny: ok. |
| 08:32.32 | SparFux1 | wtf I hate such problems :-) |
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| 08:35.38 | dcbevins | is there a ip conflict on the network, same ip someplace |
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| 08:36.02 | nsadmin2 | how can I find out what's going on? when I boot, my wlan devices donnt; get a default route, but when I manyally ifdown/ifup, they do |
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| 08:36.22 | iwkse | hi, i have a pc where i can't have net connection (i'm using netinst and the wireless card needs the driver first and so on) so i was thinking to use my laptop as proxy to give connection to the pc. Is squid good for this? |
| 08:37.31 | rm-r | wow, someone makes use of kernel 2.6.32-trunk-686? |
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| 08:38.54 | fxiny | SparFux1: grep ListenAddress /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 08:39.07 | m4ntus | is away: Gone away for now |
| 08:39.14 | rm-r | wow, someone makes use of kernel 2.6.32-trunk-686?? |
| 08:39.19 | SparFux1 | fxiny: #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 |
| 08:39.44 | fxiny | just that ? |
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| 08:40.14 | SparFux1 | yes |
| 08:40.22 | SparFux1 | but it listens to 0.0.0.0, netstat shows it. |
| 08:40.37 | fxiny | rm-r: not 100% sure but iirc trunk is deprecated . double check |
| 08:41.00 | SparFux1 | From the man page: "The default is to listen on all local addresses." |
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| 08:41.59 | SparFux1 | and again, in my opinion, there is a problem to notice even if no app is listening, take telnet for example. sometimes I get IMMEDIATE connection refused, and sometimes it tries for minutes and then times out. This timing out is erronoeous. |
| 08:42.12 | SparFux1 | it should not try and time out, it should say connection refused. |
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| 08:46.10 | SparFux1 | somehow random behaviour. |
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| 08:48.23 | fxiny | SparFux1: my ssh and pam.d configurations are not standard |
| 08:50.41 | fxiny | iwkse: squid is a very good www proxy cache |
| 08:51.28 | SparFux1 | not only ssh, all connections to local addresses seem to stall frequently. |
| 08:51.31 | iwkse | fxiny: okey |
| 08:52.20 | alcy | darn, why don't preseeded passwords work with ldap ?! |
| 08:53.15 | SparFux1 | perhaps really the link gets "saturated". |
| 08:53.24 | fxiny | SparFux1: ssh -vv 127.0.0.1 |
| 08:54.21 | SparFux1 | fxiny: omg, I stopped mldonkey and now I cannot reproduce the problem anymore. |
| 08:54.48 | SparFux1 | so the donkey sucks up all my local network resources? |
| 08:54.50 | dcbevins | LOL |
| 08:55.16 | dcbevins | overtaxed |
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| 08:55.54 | SparFux1 | overtaxed. |
| 08:56.10 | SparFux1 | indeed, restarted donkey, problem there. |
| 08:56.20 | SparFux1 | seems dcbevins was right! |
| 08:56.29 | dcbevins | reduce the number of global connections in donkey |
| 08:56.29 | SparFux1 | what can I do about that? |
| 08:57.07 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: can't I increase some connection limit in linux instead? |
| 08:57.11 | dcbevins | it might be causing your router to lose its mind if you have too many |
| 08:57.21 | dcbevins | might be in the router, not linux |
| 08:57.26 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: but the problem just affected local loopback network. |
| 08:57.53 | dcbevins | true |
| 08:58.35 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: so you say even though only loopback was afffected and not the internet connection, it might be that the router was overloaded? |
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| 08:59.13 | SparFux1 | I am more thinking about an mldonkey bug, I have to say. It used to work all times, perhaps debian has updated it and now it breaks local loopback :-) |
| 08:59.15 | dcbevins | donky must be listening on the loop back |
| 08:59.26 | SparFux1 | aha. |
| 08:59.39 | SparFux1 | it does, but I thought only for the web interface. |
| 09:00.19 | SparFux1 | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:12270 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 30012/mlnet |
| 09:00.21 | SparFux1 | !!!! |
| 09:00.21 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 09:00.32 | fxiny | join the ratfting ppl : run a decent torrent client |
| 09:01.24 | aiyu | is there any software to create a bootable usb |
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| 09:01.43 | SparFux1 | aiyu: grml.org grml2usb |
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| 09:02.07 | SparFux1 | aiyu: or even check out debian live |
| 09:02.18 | X-Raimo | is daemon dirmngr is critical at server? |
| 09:02.32 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: the web interface is tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:4080 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 30012/mlnet |
| 09:03.05 | nsadmin2 | how can I find out what's going on? when I boot, my wlan devices dont get a default route, but when I manyally ifdown/ifup, they do |
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| 09:04.42 | nsadmin2 | could something outside the /etc/network/interfaces system be interfering somehow? |
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| 09:06.25 | dcbevins | SparFux1 im done for, have to sleep at least u know where to look |
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| 09:07.48 | SparFux1 | dcbevins: thanks! |
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| 09:09.02 | fxiny | 4 years running a psu fan with a toothpick , now i fixed an old cpu fan under the hd , with a piece of wire and two rubber bands . my old PII is back to life : hdb from 40°C down to 24°C . no more fs corruption . hopefully . high tech quality ;P |
| 09:10.40 | kairu0 | fxiny: lol |
| 09:11.18 | kairu0 | fxiny: your PC reminds me of my old bicycle |
| 09:13.47 | fxiny | kairu0: a bicycle ? keep it ! and do like me : use the pump biciclye instead of the ugly canned air for the cleaning : stick a plastic pipe in the end pf the pump and add to it a biro pen cap , it has a perfect hole in the middle |
| 09:14.45 | fxiny | dunno if you have biro pens over there , you should |
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| 09:15.25 | kairu0 | fxiny: you are talking about the airpump and not the bicycl right? |
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| 09:15.54 | fxiny | kairu0: yes , the air pump , is the best , no moisture ! |
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| 09:16.03 | kairu0 | fxiny: thats not a bad idea |
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| 09:16.30 | fxiny | kairu0: try and see , always ready |
| 09:17.09 | kairu0 | fxiny: any other random diy tips? haha |
| 09:17.37 | dutchfish | nsadmin2: are you reffering to when running 2 subnets over 1 phys. adapter broadcasting/arp ? |
| 09:17.45 | fxiny | kairu0: nothing compares to my toothpick hack , 4 years up and running |
| 09:17.51 | kairu0 | lol |
| 09:18.26 | kairu0 | fxiny: do you have a blog or pics |
| 09:18.29 | fxiny | kairu0: pressing the middle of the psu fan makes it spinning without noise : the toothpick keep it down as needed |
| 09:20.03 | fxiny | kairu0: no blogs or pics |
| 09:21.09 | kairu0 | and i thought i was amazing for having a p4 htpc |
| 09:21.09 | kairu0 | haha |
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| 09:26.15 | fxiny | kairu0: i suggest the apple antenna man to fix the problem with an extra power : a couple of galvani frog legs . he can help the economy recovering quickly ;) |
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| 09:30.58 | kripz | What is the program to monitor keypresses so i can rebind my keyboard? |
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| 09:31.56 | iwkse | kripz: xbindkeys |
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| 09:32.15 | dutchfish | so one down, 4 to go see the one http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=588426 |
| 09:32.47 | kripz | iwkse: that doesnt seem to be what i want. I remember a program that would just listen to key presses and type the keycode that i just pressed |
| 09:32.50 | dutchfish | sorry for the xpost |
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| 09:35.11 | iwkse | kripz: xev? |
| 09:35.25 | kripz | that brings back memories, i think that might be it |
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| 09:36.26 | fxiny | kripz: showkey ? |
| 09:36.36 | peterrooney | showkey, for the win |
| 09:36.54 | dominiks | hello guys, my /home is separated disk partition but I'd like to copy it on another partition now.. is there any safe way to copy all /home to another partition pls? |
| 09:37.59 | iwkse | dominiks: use partimage? |
| 09:38.32 | dominiks | iwkse, ok thanks, I'm going to google what's that :) |
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| 09:39.42 | iwkse | dominiks: be aware ext4 and btrfs looks like aren't yet supported |
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| 09:40.31 | dominiks | iwkse, hmm.. i need copy old etx4 crypted partition to new ext3 hardisk :( |
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| 09:41.21 | dominiks | I'm just looking for some magical command, like sudo something :) |
| 09:41.24 | Sia- | With wget -m can i download all dir and subdir but is created xxx files with index*. any solution or another option for wget ? |
| 09:41.28 | iwkse | dominiks: so you may go with dd |
| 09:41.50 | dominiks | iwkse, ok gonna check that |
| 09:42.01 | iwkse | dominiks: dd if=/dev/sdx of=/path/to/image |
| 09:42.15 | dominiks | iwkse, thanks a lot :) |
| 09:42.20 | iwkse | yw |
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| 09:42.52 | iwkse | dominiks: you may also gzip it, dd if=/dev/sdx | gzip > /path/to/image.gz |
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| 09:44.40 | dominiks | iwkse, oh i see.. but i need new /home to be usable with new system (im switching from Ubuntu to Debian + moving /home to separated harddisk) |
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| 09:47.48 | SparFux1 | Well, what is a more decent bittorrent client than mldonkey? |
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| 09:51.29 | dutchfish | SparFux1: have you looked at transmission ? |
| 09:51.41 | SparFux1 | what transmission? |
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| 09:53.37 | dutchfish | SparFux1: http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/transmission.html |
| 09:54.40 | SparFux1 | ah. |
| 09:54.45 | SparFux1 | or what about bittornado? |
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| 09:55.44 | dutchfish | SparFux1: there are a lot more, but i liked transmission because its lightweight and has all the functionality i need |
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| 09:59.02 | dutchfish | SparFux1: aria2 is a nice one too, from the console |
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| 10:00.05 | jpinx-eeepc | !lightspark |
| 10:01.18 | SparFux1 | dutchfish: bittornado has a web interface even. |
| 10:01.46 | SparFux1 | dutchfish: which uses php and mysql to somehow implement the web manageability. sounds very versatile to me. |
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| 10:04.00 | SparFux1 | dutchfish: I think I first try this one: http://www.torrentflux.com/screenshots.php |
| 10:04.13 | SparFux1 | it uses bittornado which has ncurses AND console interface :-) |
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| 10:07.44 | jamesstanley | I would like to run an upgrade, but I don't want flashplugin-nonfree to be upgraded to the 64-bit-broken version |
| 10:08.06 | jamesstanley | Is there an option for this or should I use pinning? |
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| 10:08.21 | mechbangirc | hello room |
| 10:08.34 | SparFux1 | hi mechbangirc |
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| 10:10.09 | mechbangirc | I ve installed lenny on one of my PC. This is the first time I am using Debian, and I dont know how to stop iptables. /etc/init.d/iptables stop => file not found |
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| 10:12.06 | mechbangirc | if i do iptables -L, i get rules listing. but for some reason /etc/init.d/iptables is not installed. can any body ...? |
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| 10:12.27 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: this page might help you http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-iptables-stop/ |
| 10:12.32 | jamesstanley | but i would have expected there to be an easier way |
| 10:13.00 | fxiny | partimage is not good for copying a partition |
| 10:13.11 | jpinx-eeepc | fxiny: use dd |
| 10:13.12 | SparFux1 | no again it is there. though mldonkey is not running. local loopback network stalled. |
| 10:13.24 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: ah man 9 lines to stop this thing |
| 10:13.28 | fxiny | jpinx-eeepc: i use mirrordir |
| 10:13.35 | fxiny | or cp |
| 10:13.50 | smv | wonders why wold one want to stop iptables |
| 10:13.57 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: it looks like you'll have to write your own scripts for controlling iptables, or use something like http://www.shorewall.net/ |
| 10:14.03 | jpinx-eeepc | fxiny: cp does not copy a complet partition - only the contents |
| 10:14.05 | jamesstanley | smv: i think he means to remove all of the rules |
| 10:14.16 | jamesstanley | temporarily |
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| 10:14.40 | jpinx-eeepc | mechbangirc: just comment out everything for now |
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| 10:14.57 | karme | fxiny: always wanted to try it, had hoped it could be better than a full copy (dd) with half empty fs, it doesn't ? |
| 10:15.05 | fxiny | jpinx-eeepc: partimage can be tricky , cp is ok |
| 10:15.08 | karme | fxiny: it = partimage |
| 10:15.30 | mechbangirc | secondly my input chain is on drop policy so when i flush iptables my ssh session freesez and i can not reconnect untill i reboot the system. it is a home headless server |
| 10:15.39 | jpinx-eeepc | fxiny: it depends on what you mean by "copy s partition" |
| 10:15.58 | fxiny | karme: if source partition is smaller then destination you must rezize destination after copy |
| 10:16.16 | jamesstanley | unless you want a smaller filesystem than you could have |
| 10:16.19 | karme | fxiny: no problem |
| 10:16.30 | fxiny | jpinx-eeepc: the advantage of mirrordir against cp is : you have not to red man cp |
| 10:17.06 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: thanks for script suggestion, can you tell me why flushing freezes my ssh session. the same script i used on centos worked fine and survived flush |
| 10:17.08 | fxiny | karme: when i clone i just mount both partitions and i run mirrodir |
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| 10:17.37 | karme | fxiny: i will continue to use cp (once had troubles with mirrordir / but that was quite some time agao) |
| 10:17.37 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: i don't know much about iptables, so i can't help you. sorry |
| 10:17.42 | karme | fxiny: aeh dd |
| 10:17.56 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: i can only assume that ssh was being affected by one of your rules |
| 10:18.03 | fxiny | karme: but dd is baseliner/tripwire/aide friendly |
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| 10:18.10 | jamesstanley | affected -> helped |
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| 10:18.49 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: rules are ok tested on centos, my ssh rule is on top shouldn't create a problem. any way thanks |
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| 10:19.33 | fxiny | Lorvija: cp is fine . i can use tar for copying (Alan Cox tar trick ) and dump for backing up . i like dump |
| 10:19.36 | fxiny | oops |
| 10:19.45 | fxiny | karme: ^^^ |
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| 10:20.36 | fxiny | karme: trouble with mirrordir ? deleted the original partition data ? :) |
| 10:20.47 | karme | fxiny: it had some bug |
| 10:21.00 | karme | fxiny: if i want a exact copy of a fs i use dd |
| 10:21.11 | fxiny | exaclty |
| 10:23.38 | fxiny | anyway plenty of good fast efficient tools . windoze users can only dream of , they keep on using ugly ghost ... |
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| 10:27.48 | smv | had anyone managed to install sid using the businesscard installer lately? |
| 10:29.17 | fxiny | SparFux1: you like rtorrent gui ? http://s6.tinypic.com/30iuw5i.jpg |
| 10:29.37 | SparFux1 | fxiny: I got the freaking problem again! local loopback stalled. even though mldonkey not running. |
| 10:29.45 | shazbotmcnasty | wtorrent? |
| 10:29.47 | shazbotmcnasty | sweet |
| 10:29.52 | SparFux1 | seems like mldonkey wasn't th eproblem, though I saw a real coincidence. |
| 10:30.03 | shazbotmcnasty | fxiny: does it tell the tracker that it's wtorrent? Or does it say rtorrent? |
| 10:30.10 | shazbotmcnasty | because if it says wtorrent I can't use it :/ |
| 10:30.14 | SparFux1 | how to display network "load" or resoruces "taken"? |
| 10:30.24 | fxiny | shazbotmcnasty: i have it in my TODO list , not done yet . http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/compile-and-set-up-rtorrent-and.html |
| 10:30.35 | shazbotmcnasty | oh |
| 10:30.36 | fxiny | for debian lenny |
| 10:30.41 | shazbotmcnasty | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.42 | shazbotmcnasty | LD |
| 10:30.44 | shazbotmcnasty | :d |
| 10:30.45 | shazbotmcnasty | :/ |
| 10:30.47 | shazbotmcnasty | hahaha |
| 10:30.55 | shazbotmcnasty | my emoticons aren't working out very well tonight |
| 10:31.01 | fxiny | shazbotmcnasty: yeah not good at all : we are screen users ;) |
| 10:31.07 | shazbotmcnasty | :D |
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| 10:32.06 | mechbangirc | hi again |
| 10:32.08 | fxiny | SparFux1: how do you get this loopback stalling ? i mean , is something that happens all of a sudden ? |
| 10:32.11 | SparFux1 | Something has to be wrong with my overall network configuration concerning some resources. |
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| 10:32.46 | SparFux1 | fxiny: it used to be somehow associated with mldonkey. but when I stopped it, the lagg didnd't immediately disappear. I thought it was when netstat didn't show so many ocnnections anymore. |
| 10:33.08 | jamesstanley | SparFux1: do you have a loopback entry in /etc/network/interfaces? I was having weird problems recently and noticed that I never set up lo |
| 10:33.18 | SparFux1 | now I have this bittornado running and netstat shows quite a load again. |
| 10:33.19 | fxiny | SparFux1: resources ? how the load average ? seen ? i have everything under control : xmonad + xmobar . easy to check |
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| 10:33.31 | SparFux1 | jamesstanley: I set up lo and it's there. |
| 10:33.34 | jamesstanley | ok |
| 10:33.44 | mechbangirc | my iptables is stopped. still when i enter /etc/init.d/networking restart it hangs untill i reboot. this is my /etc/network/interfaces file http://www.pastebin.ca/1907405. lenny |
| 10:33.56 | SparFux1 | 12:33:49 up 5:10, 1 user, load average: 0.37, 0.65, 0.74 |
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| 10:34.10 | fxiny | SparFux1: bittornado ? i don't like it . rtorrent + color patch + dht . |
| 10:34.19 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: are you running "/etc/init.d/networking restart" over ssh? |
| 10:34.29 | SparFux1 | fxiny: why odn't you like tornado. |
| 10:34.30 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: yes |
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| 10:34.37 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: and you don't see a problem with that? |
| 10:34.54 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: i do my ssh freezes |
| 10:34.58 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: ...exactly |
| 10:35.07 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: that's to be expected if you're taking the network down |
| 10:35.23 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: in centos i used to do it and my ssh survived. |
| 10:35.46 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: in this case my network never comes back. ping does not work either |
| 10:35.49 | fxiny | SparFux1: i prefere rtorrent |
| 10:35.49 | jamesstanley | ah i see |
| 10:36.33 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: do you have access to the console? |
| 10:36.45 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: yes |
| 10:37.00 | jamesstanley | i suggest trying /etc/init.d/networking restart at the console and seeing if there are any other messages |
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| 10:37.23 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: ok doing just a min |
| 10:37.38 | fxiny | SparFux1: rtorrent seems getting up with my favourite classic : mutt , screen , irssi . |
| 10:37.46 | markit | I should execute a job after some minutes after boot... a sort of @reboot+n_minutes in crontab... any tip? |
| 10:37.51 | fxiny | the holy trimurty |
| 10:37.58 | SparFux1 | ha! purged bittornado and my network is up again. |
| 10:38.04 | shazbotmcnasty | I have had a lot of problems with rtorrent though |
| 10:38.11 | fxiny | in the order : mutt first ... |
| 10:38.14 | shazbotmcnasty | but only because I keep my files on a separate drive |
| 10:38.20 | SparFux1 | nope, down again. |
| 10:38.59 | SparFux1 | I restart apache and it works again for some time. |
| 10:38.59 | jamesstanley | markit: have a boot script run "at now + 5 minutes commands to run" |
| 10:39.14 | markit | jamesstanley: bright idea, thanks |
| 10:39.17 | jamesstanley | markit: for example "at now + 5 minutes /etc/init.d/apache2 start" |
| 10:39.41 | markit | jamesstanley: wondered about a special syntax for @reboot stuff in crontab |
| 10:39.47 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: ok i run the command and then checked interfaces with ifconfig. and voila my eht0 is gone, only local loop is up |
| 10:39.50 | fxiny | shazbotmcnasty: which version ? is it a contrack problem ? use NOTRACk and udp 6881:6999 |
| 10:39.51 | jamesstanley | markit: i don't think there is any but i could be wrong |
| 10:40.38 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: hmm |
| 10:40.39 | fxiny | conntracking 6881 uses resources |
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| 10:41.06 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: do you have a particularly exotic nic? |
| 10:41.08 | shazbotmcnasty | fxiny: I don't know I'm not on my computer right now |
| 10:41.13 | shazbotmcnasty | and it's not actually software problems |
| 10:41.19 | shazbotmcnasty | it's just annoyances that make me not want to use it anymroe |
| 10:41.29 | SparFux1 | wtorrent is not shipped with debian? |
| 10:41.40 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: cann't say much but yes i doubt that |
| 10:42.04 | jamesstanley | markit: apparently i was wrong: http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-56929.html |
| 10:42.15 | jamesstanley | markit: oh never mind, that doesn't allow a delay |
| 10:42.15 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: it is a p4 machine with a most stupid mother board in the world |
| 10:42.21 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: onboard nic? |
| 10:42.42 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: no it is PCI |
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| 10:43.02 | markit | jamesstanley: :) |
| 10:43.05 | fxiny | shazbotmcnasty: i don't have any single problem with : lenny rtorrent , squeeze rtorrent installed in lenny , rtorrent svn compiled , it sits there and it works nicely |
| 10:43.12 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: in the output of "lspci" what does it say your card is? |
| 10:43.45 | shazbotmcnasty | like i said, it works how it should |
| 10:44.05 | shazbotmcnasty | but i forget to mount my drive and want to look at another torrent not attached to my external |
| 10:44.09 | shazbotmcnasty | then I have to re hash everything |
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| 10:44.11 | shazbotmcnasty | it's just annoying |
| 10:44.25 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: strange if i do ifup eth0 it brings up the interface. ssh resumes. this is my lspci http://pastebin.ca/1907412 |
| 10:44.57 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 24) |
| 10:45.03 | fxiny | shazbotmcnasty: set check_hash = no |
| 10:45.12 | jamesstanley | yeah that doesn't sound like it's particularly strange hardware |
| 10:45.21 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: is there anything relevant in dmesg? |
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| 10:45.57 | shazbotmcnasty | oh neat |
| 10:46.18 | shazbotmcnasty | but then I'll still get the DATA NOT FOUND error |
| 10:46.21 | jamesstanley | mechbangirc: you could try replacing "allow-hotplug eth0" with "auto eth0" |
| 10:46.23 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: not much it says "setting full-duplex and no ipv6" |
| 10:46.24 | shazbotmcnasty | then I'll have to rehash anyway |
| 10:46.26 | shazbotmcnasty | O_O |
| 10:46.26 | jamesstanley | ok |
| 10:46.42 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: this looks like promising let me try that |
| 10:47.04 | jamesstanley | or even add "auto eth0" after allow-hotplug |
| 10:47.10 | jamesstanley | i think auto means the interface automatically comes up |
| 10:47.43 | mechbangirc | jamesstanley: awesome, its working thanks man |
| 10:47.47 | jamesstanley | excellent! |
| 10:47.57 | thewanderer1 | hey, is it possible to join two sockets into one so that whatever gets read on one socket is sent to the other one? possibly with minimum overhead... |
| 10:47.58 | do0ob | hi |
| 10:48.03 | fxiny | shazbotmcnasty: don't forget low diskspace : schedule = low_diskspace,5,60,close_low_diskspace=100M |
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| 10:48.18 | shazbotmcnasty | what does that do |
| 10:48.32 | do0ob | The FN+Brightness UP and FN+Brightness DOWN does no work |
| 10:48.39 | fxiny | it will stop rtorrent when 100M are left in your home |
| 10:48.46 | thewanderer1 | do0ob, under KDE or GNOME? |
| 10:48.47 | fxiny | very handy |
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| 10:49.08 | do0ob | thewanderer1: kde can control it using widgets but the keyboard buttons won't work |
| 10:49.23 | do0ob | xev doesn't show anything for FN+Brightness Buttons |
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| 10:50.23 | thewanderer1 | do0ob, that\s normal then. what laptop brand are you using? |
| 10:50.40 | hello | hell o |
| 10:51.07 | do0ob | thewanderer1: hp dv9000 with the intel graphics, 945GM chipset |
| 10:51.07 | hello | pls any one test this page http://aaditya.sytes.net/index.php |
| 10:51.47 | jamesstanley | hello: there are no checkboxes |
| 10:51.55 | jamesstanley | and it claims that i clicked 0 of the 3 |
| 10:52.07 | do0ob | hello: the script works |
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| 10:52.09 | hello | um |
| 10:52.14 | do0ob | jamesstanley: i think its a processing script |
| 10:52.14 | hello | yeah ? |
| 10:52.22 | hello | i am learning hehe |
| 10:52.37 | jamesstanley | i see |
| 10:52.41 | do0ob | we didn't give any post/get data to it so i doubt it'd show anything as checked |
| 10:52.49 | do0ob | hello: try #php |
| 10:52.49 | hello | : ) |
| 10:52.59 | thewanderer1 | do0ob, check what your ACPI is saying, as root issue: `acpi_listen` and check if the buttons generate events. then, if not, check dmesg and look for messages about keys |
| 10:53.02 | jamesstanley | if you go to here http://aaditya.sytes.net/ there are input boxes! |
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| 10:53.49 | hello | yes add yoru name and check box it will show in nxt page yoru first and last name and no. of boxes you clicked |
| 10:54.08 | valdyn | except that it does not really count the checkboxes clicked |
| 10:54.50 | hello | it do !!noe ?? |
| 10:54.57 | SparFux1 | What should be in /etc/hosts for ipv6? it ::1 localhost correct? |
| 10:55.16 | valdyn | SparFux1: no |
| 10:55.29 | SparFux1 | valdyn: strange, debian put it in my /etc/hosts sometimes. |
| 10:55.41 | jamesstanley | SparFux1: http://www.bieringer.de/linux/IPv6/IPv6-HOWTO/IPv6-HOWTO-6.html |
| 10:55.46 | valdyn | ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback |
| 10:56.00 | jamesstanley | SparFux1: if you scroll down a bit it tells you the entries you should have |
| 10:56.14 | SparFux1 | jamesstanley: thanks. |
| 10:56.15 | valdyn | SparFux1: your line makes it use ipv6 when you probably wanted it to be ipv4 |
| 10:56.32 | valdyn | SparFux1: though for all your needs and purposes that might be irrelevant |
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| 11:10.13 | do0ob | thewanderer1: can't get acpi_listen to show any keyboard events |
| 11:10.27 | do0ob | So far it has shown the laptop lid close and open |
| 11:11.01 | do0ob | no events are shown when i move the brightness slider in kde (the software slider control works fine) |
| 11:11.14 | superlinux | hi. I want to make the time daemon ntp run after the Xwindows ( I run gdm as login manager) how? |
| 11:11.40 | superlinux | i always thought there is a problem in my computer |
| 11:12.02 | thewanderer1 | do0ob, check dmesg |
| 11:12.14 | thewanderer1 | do0ob, you might also want to try that with GNOME |
| 11:12.18 | superlinux | but the issue is that ntp delays my boot just to reach Xwindow. |
| 11:12.42 | thewanderer1 | superlinux, then run ntp after X Window System |
| 11:12.53 | thewanderer1 | superlinux, just change the boot sequenc |
| 11:13.07 | do0ob | input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input1 |
| 11:13.26 | superlinux | thewanderer1, no! you did not get what I mean: is there a tool? how to use it? |
| 11:13.28 | do0ob | thewanderer1: i see options like Lid Switch and Sleep Button, but brightness buttons do not show up |
| 11:13.41 | do0ob | works fine in windows so i doubt its a hardware issue |
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| 11:13.57 | superlinux | what is the debian way? |
| 11:14.15 | thewanderer1 | superlinux, what do you mean? you just run ntp and you're fine. |
| 11:15.40 | superlinux | isn't the command `update-rc.d` supposed to fix that? |
| 11:15.55 | thewanderer1 | superlinux, that's what I mean by reordering the boot sequence |
| 11:16.08 | thewanderer1 | I do it with symlinks, but update-rc.d does pretty much the same |
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| 11:16.37 | thewanderer1 | do0ob, do the buttons work in Windows without special drivers? if not, your computer is using a proprietary crappy interface instead of ACPI and it's not possible to make brightness buttons work in Linux - complain to the manufacturer |
| 11:16.42 | superlinux | ok |
| 11:16.48 | Bushmills | to reduce boot time, increase uptime |
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| 11:17.53 | valdyn | superlinux: is insserv installed? |
| 11:18.06 | valdyn | superlinux: which debian release is it? |
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| 11:18.35 | superlinux | lenny mixed with backports |
| 11:18.45 | superlinux | the latest stable |
| 11:18.48 | valdyn | judd: versions insserv |
| 11:18.49 | judd | insserv -- etch: 1.08.0-11; lenny: 1.12.0-4; sid: 1.14.0-2; squeeze: 1.14.0-2 |
| 11:19.07 | do0ob | thewanderer1: don't know if windows provides the drivers. I just replaced the nvidia mobo with the intel one and it windows isn't genuine anymore but brightness worked |
| 11:19.30 | valdyn | superlinux: you can use insserv and you can try enabling parallel boot, but before squeeze its not debians default method |
| 11:19.44 | superlinux | ok |
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| 11:20.24 | valdyn | superlinux: so it might break, so you should either have a complete backup or know your way around fixing booting issues like that |
| 11:20.25 | gnarface | why the hell does mplayer make it so hard to play to stdout? |
| 11:20.34 | valdyn | gnarface: does it? |
| 11:20.43 | do0ob | gnarface: why would you play to stdout? |
| 11:20.46 | gnarface | valdyn: you know something i don't? |
| 11:21.02 | gnarface | i would like |
| 11:21.09 | Bushmills | mencoder should do so easily, by "converting" audio and video with encoder "copy" |
| 11:21.21 | gnarface | to stream output from my capture card to a network pipe |
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| 11:21.38 | valdyn | gnarface: i think you should be using mencoder, but ive done it with both |
| 11:21.43 | gnarface | the capture card is one of those hauppage things or i'd use ffmpeg |
| 11:21.46 | superlinux | valdyn, It's not installed. the package mentions that it's stable |
| 11:22.07 | gnarface | hmm |
| 11:22.20 | gnarface | mencoder [options] [input file] [output file]? |
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| 11:23.44 | gnarface | well here's what i want to do |
| 11:23.45 | element14 | what do you want to play to stdout? |
| 11:23.55 | gnarface | capture card stream in proprietary hm12 format |
| 11:24.02 | gnarface | only mplayer seems to play it |
| 11:24.13 | gnarface | it'd be nice to mux the audio in there with it |
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| 11:24.45 | gnarface | here's what i've got for local playback: aplay -q -f dat /dev/video24 & mplayer -nocache -vf tfields=1 -aspect 16:9 -demuxer rawvideo -rawvideo format=hm12:w=720:h=480:fps=29.97 /dev/video32 |
| 11:25.03 | Bushmills | if mplayer can play it, mencoder can also convert it on the fly |
| 11:25.06 | gnarface | for some reason if i use mplayer to play the audio AND the video there is really annoying stuttering |
| 11:25.30 | gnarface | i'm running 2.6ghz dual-core athlon 64 |
| 11:25.35 | gnarface | 2GB of ram |
| 11:25.39 | karme | a/v sync issue? |
| 11:25.43 | gnarface | definitely not |
| 11:25.48 | gnarface | it's actual stuttering |
| 11:25.56 | valdyn | gnarface: because you are using -nocache ? |
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| 11:26.06 | valdyn | gnarface: why the hell would you use that flag? |
| 11:26.09 | fxiny | mplayer does stutter sometimes in my 2G ram box |
| 11:26.41 | gnarface | valdyn: trying to take the latency out. want to be able to use it for gaming too |
| 11:26.51 | fxiny | i tend to blame the kernel , you running lenny ? |
| 11:27.04 | gnarface | no it's squeeze, kernel 2.6.32-3-amd64 |
| 11:27.14 | valdyn | gnarface: -nocache combined with giving mplayer rt priority might work |
| 11:27.20 | fxiny | nice to know , i get back the blame then ;) |
| 11:27.51 | valdyn | fxiny: you just have to low cache, probably |
| 11:28.03 | gnarface | valdyn: noted. is it relevant that if i add audio in there it not only stutters but eventually starts dumping complaints about my system being too slow (for the standard definition stream) into the console? |
| 11:28.28 | fxiny | valdyn: oh , where to look ? |
| 11:28.40 | gnarface | ffmpeg does NOT have this problem but it won't work with the raw capture card's output |
| 11:28.42 | valdyn | gnarface: i have no idea why your audio would add significant load, but might aswell be that you only notice the stuttering with audio enabled |
| 11:28.49 | karme | gnarface: afair this message contains also "maybe broken alsa driver" ... |
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| 11:29.03 | karme | gnarface: this is what i mean by a/v sync issue |
| 11:29.06 | gnarface | hmm. |
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| 11:29.31 | gnarface | valdyn: using aplay i don't seem to have video or audio skipping |
| 11:29.33 | valdyn | gnarface: that message just means that mplayer has no cache, in your case, I assume |
| 11:29.33 | fxiny | valdyn: it happens when i scp from hee to there and i do some IO and i watch movies |
| 11:29.40 | fxiny | s/hee/here |
| 11:29.58 | valdyn | fxiny: writes starving reads? thats easily possible |
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| 11:30.26 | gnarface | this was all so much easier with my old bttv card :( |
| 11:30.40 | fxiny | valdyn: it sounds likely , i added an extra fan last week |
| 11:30.48 | fxiny | and one here today |
| 11:31.50 | fxiny | checks for vacancies in iceland |
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| 11:33.07 | gnarface | hmm. |
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| 11:33.11 | karme | gnarface: and this card only supports hm12? maybe try some other format? |
| 11:33.12 | valdyn | gnarface: by the way, "cat /dev/video0" might also do what you want |
| 11:33.19 | gnarface | there's ALSO an audio syncing issue |
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| 11:34.43 | karme | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/video4linux/cx2341x/README.hm12 |
| 11:35.11 | valdyn | gnarface: you used "mencoder -ovc copy" btw? |
| 11:35.17 | gnarface | karme: the card also supports mpeg2 but there's like a 2-minute buffer delay on it. i'm using the raw hm12 output because it is lower latency and i want to be able to use it for gaming |
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| 11:35.38 | gnarface | no i've been trying this all with mplayer |
| 11:36.02 | gnarface | do i have to compile mencoder myself on squeeze? |
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| 11:36.13 | valdyn | judd: versions mencoder |
| 11:36.14 | judd | mencoder -- etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1; lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny2; sid-multimedia: 2:1.0~rc3+svn20100603-0.0; squeeze-multimedia: 2:1.0~rc3+svn20100603-0.0 |
| 11:36.21 | valdyn | gnarface: its in dmm |
| 11:36.43 | au | when's sid coming out (stable)? |
| 11:36.49 | gnarface | updating mplayer |
| 11:36.52 | valdyn | au: never |
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| 11:37.04 | au | valdyn: really? |
| 11:37.08 | valdyn | !wwsbr |
| 11:37.12 | valdyn | !wwsr |
| 11:37.12 | dpkg | Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/06/msg00002.html |
| 11:37.25 | valdyn | !squeeze bet |
| 11:37.25 | dpkg | To add a bet to the squeeze pool, /msg dpkg squeeze pool 1 =~ s/!/! <nick>=yyyy-mm-dd/ and when squeeze pool 1 is filled, create squeeze pool 2 and update this factoid. |
| 11:37.36 | au | weird |
| 11:37.49 | valdyn | au: what is weird? |
| 11:38.18 | gnarface | wait... so i *should* have a mencoder binary in squeeze? |
| 11:38.30 | Bushmills | !multimedia |
| 11:38.31 | dpkg | [dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>. |
| 11:38.59 | fxiny | au: when scud (sid dog) will sing "my way" |
| 11:39.00 | gnarface | aah |
| 11:39.06 | au | ok |
| 11:41.03 | iwkse | au: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
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| 11:51.09 | gnarface | ok so i'm really not good with mplayer |
| 11:51.19 | gnarface | mplayer -nocache -vf tfields=1 -aspect 16:9 -demuxer rawvideo -rawvideo format=hm12:w=720:h=480 -ao alsa -audio-demuxer rawaudio -rawaudio rate=48000:channels=2 -audiofile /dev/video24 /dev/video32 |
| 11:51.24 | gnarface | this plays the video with no delay |
| 11:51.31 | gnarface | but the audio with a serious desynchronization issue |
| 11:51.45 | gnarface | can i like, pass -nocache as an audio property too? |
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| 11:52.20 | gnarface | i don't get why that command has vastly desynchronized audio but if i play the audio seperately with aplay instead the audio seems perfectly synchronized |
| 11:52.23 | gnarface | that doesn't seem right, does it? |
| 11:52.41 | gnarface | newer copy of mplayer (or maybe it was alsa) seems to have eliminated the suttering at least |
| 11:52.53 | gnarface | aplay never had any stuttering problems either though |
| 11:52.56 | gnarface | anyone good with mplayer? |
| 11:53.08 | karme | prefers ffmpeg or vlc |
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| 11:53.53 | gnarface | yea so neither ffmpeg or vlc support hm12 though |
| 11:53.56 | gnarface | i prefer ffmpeg as well |
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| 11:54.13 | gnarface | and i thought mplayer was just a frontend on ffmpeg... so what's up with that? |
| 11:54.36 | gnarface | ffmpeg works GREAT for this type of thing with any other format |
| 11:54.46 | gnarface | plus it's easy to pipe to stdout |
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| 11:55.33 | karme | mplayer is not just a frontend to ffmpeg |
| 11:55.47 | karme | maybe you have to hack hm12 into fffmpeg |
| 11:55.53 | karme | if you insist on using it |
| 11:55.57 | gnarface | :( |
| 11:56.16 | gnarface | how come nobody sells framegrabber cards anymore? like the ones that used the old bttv drivers? |
| 11:56.28 | gnarface | bttv was much better supported |
| 11:56.32 | karme | or you could write a program (taking the c linked above) that writes something ffmpeg unterstands to stdout |
| 11:56.49 | karme | (yes there will be a a/v sync issue) |
| 11:57.26 | gnarface | good options if i wasn't so crappy at C |
| 11:57.29 | gnarface | but thanks for the advice |
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| 11:58.42 | Sia- | creating new user just to connect IRc server need lp and optical group? |
| 11:58.56 | karme | gnarface: just use the old card? |
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| 11:59.43 | Sia- | useradd -m -g users -G lp -s /bin/bash ircuser |
| 11:59.48 | karme | gnarface: or try to reduce the latency with the mpeg2 output? |
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| 11:59.59 | Sia- | is that enough to connect on freenode? |
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| 12:00.15 | gnarface | karme: believe me i may resort to using the old card. there doesn't seem to be any way to change the latency of the hardware mpeg2 buffer though. |
| 12:00.35 | karme | gnarface: so it is really the hardware causing the latency |
| 12:00.46 | karme | gnarface: :( |
| 12:01.22 | gnarface | karme: there are three devices on this card: /dev/video0, /dev/video24 and /dev/video32 |
| 12:01.51 | gnarface | video0 does very efficient mpeg2 encoding with an unfortunate delay. i like that feature but it's unuseable for gaming |
| 12:02.31 | gnarface | video24 and video32 are the raw audio and video outputs, respectively. unfortunately the video output is in proprietary hm12 which apparently mplayer supports but vlc and ffmpeg do not |
| 12:03.12 | karme | gnarface: there is no kernel module option to reduce the delay? you are sure the the delay isn't caused on the playback side? |
| 12:03.20 | gnarface | i'd use the old bttv card (it's in another computer right now) but it ONLY does frame grabbing and i was still hoping to also be able to use the mpeg2 features of the card i have in now. not many pci slots on these newer boards you know :( |
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| 12:03.54 | gnarface | karme: i haven't looked in a while but last time i messed with it there was no way to get it within even minutes let alone milliseconds of 0-delay |
| 12:04.12 | gnarface | it's just the nature of the mpeg2 encoding |
| 12:04.24 | karme | gnarface: a/v streaming stuff always consumes much more time than expected ;-) |
| 12:05.04 | karme | gnarface: life-time that is |
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| 12:08.50 | karme | gnarface: are you some more time around? |
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| 12:14.23 | Robuster | hello |
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| 12:15.58 | Robuster | hhello, i'm trying to enable tun interface for my Debian 5 server, i'm using modprobe tun;mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200 |
| 12:16.03 | Robuster | and it still deosnt show up in ifconfig |
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| 12:18.07 | liable | Robuster: ifconfig -a ? |
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| 12:18.33 | Robuster | it just shows 'eth0' and 'lo' |
| 12:18.41 | liable | with the -a ? |
| 12:18.45 | Robuster | yes |
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| 12:19.06 | gnarface | karme: what? |
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| 12:20.08 | liable | Robuster: i havent played with tun for a while, but a quick google seems to suggest your mknod is wrong |
| 12:20.08 | IRConan | hi there... I'm having some issues recently with the xz-lzma package |
| 12:20.13 | karme | gnarface: you are on squeeze right? |
| 12:20.23 | gnarface | karme: i gave up for now to just watch tv. i've got playback working fine with the following command, i was just hoping to come up with a network streaming solution: aplay -q -f dat /dev/video24 & mplayer -nocache -vf tfields=1 -aspect 16:9 -demuxer rawvideo -rawvideo format=hm12:w=720:h=480:fps=29.97 /dev/video32 |
| 12:20.31 | gnarface | karme: yea, squeeze |
| 12:21.02 | karme | gnarface: aptitude install linux-doc-2.6 |
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| 12:21.53 | Martin_vW | Any suggestions? |
| 12:22.04 | IRConan | when I try to install xz-lzma I get the following error: |
| 12:22.05 | IRConan | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.34 | Arafangion | Then install that. |
| 12:22.45 | gnarface | karme: what should i look for in that package? |
| 12:23.01 | IRConan | Arafangion: was that directed at me? |
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| 12:23.22 | Martin_vW | Hmm, maybe I could remove the old diversions without --rename and set up the new diversions without --rename too, and then move them manually. |
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| 12:24.17 | Arafangion | IRConan: Yes. |
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| 12:24.51 | karme | gnarface: zcat /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.32/Documentation/video4linux/cx2341x/README.hm12.gz |
| 12:25.06 | IRConan | Arafangion: that gives this error: "No candidate version found for xz-utils" |
| 12:25.16 | frikinz | Hi. Does anyone know a livecd for scanning for windows viruses? With a good antivirus? |
| 12:25.25 | karme | gnarface: put it in some foo.c (only use the part within ----) |
| 12:25.41 | karme | gnarface: make foo should compile a prg called foo |
| 12:26.03 | karme | gnarface: it will output yuv using one byte for each channel, if i undertsand correctly |
| 12:26.10 | gnarface | oh! |
| 12:26.15 | gnarface | to convert it to standard yuv? |
| 12:26.18 | gnarface | something ffmpeg can read? |
| 12:26.19 | superlinux | hi again. please, can some one recommend me a cash register Linux based software for a small convenience store? I want a name , just a name |
| 12:26.43 | karme | gnarface: this should match ffmpegs rawvideo format using -pix_fmt yuvj444p (if i understand ...) |
| 12:26.59 | gnarface | karme: i'll try it tomorrow! thank you very much! |
| 12:27.19 | karme | gnarface: np |
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| 12:29.40 | karme | gnarface: maybe it is also another pix_fmt |
| 12:30.20 | karme | gnarface: "ffmpeg -pix_fmt list" should list all the ones supported by your ffmpeg version |
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| 12:32.37 | Arafangion | IRConan: That's weird. It's installed on my (testing) system. |
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| 12:33.27 | karme | gnarface: it is definitely another one (the j means jpeg apparently) |
| 12:33.45 | IRConan | Arafangion: this is stable... although I believe it was installed previously |
| 12:34.53 | karme | gnarface: yuv444p should be the right one (i will never understand that naming scheme) |
| 12:35.28 | gnarface | thanks again, karme. i made a note of it |
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| 12:37.06 | IRConan | Arafangion: oh I think I've got it |
| 12:37.14 | IRConan | xz-lzma is only available in backports |
| 12:37.42 | IRConan | it's my config management getting confused and pulling in the wrong dep for lzma |
| 12:38.04 | lindi- | superlinux: no experience but http://freshmeat.net/search?q=cash+register&submit=Search lists several |
| 12:39.09 | superlinux | lindi-, what I meant is a Point Of Sale system |
| 12:39.19 | superlinux | i am searching |
| 12:39.32 | lindi- | superlinux: yep that page lists such things |
| 12:39.52 | superlinux | ok |
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| 12:40.35 | karme | gnarface: uh sorry a last time, didn't really read the c-code before, it in fact doesn't output one byte/pixel/channel it outputs 4 for y, 1 for u and 1 for v |
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| 12:50.17 | gnarface | karme: so pix_fmt yuv411p then? |
| 12:51.35 | karme | gnarface: maybe |
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| 13:15.50 | magesing | OpenGL graphics arn't working for me. If I try glxgears I get: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". From lspci my graphics card is: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03). As far as I know Intel cards use an open-source driver... how can I get it working? Thanks. |
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| 13:30.28 | nervnyy | Hi, I bought a new internal hdd for my laptop. Can I put install files on my old hdd, boot them, and install debian to the new hdd hooked externally(via usb)? And then swap the hdds? |
| 13:34.45 | frostschutz | nervnyy: you can do that, but I'd put the drive in directly and use cd or usb stick to install. your method is only good if your laptop doesn't boot anything else |
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| 13:35.57 | nervnyy | frostschutz: no usb stick here |
| 13:37.05 | nervnyy | the install manual only talks about grub1 though |
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| 13:41.09 | magesing | nervnyy: Any reason you are doing a new install? hook up the new hdd in your external enclosure, partition it and use rsync to copy your data to the new partitions |
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| 13:41.56 | nervnyy | I could try that too |
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| 13:54.44 | jacks__ | how does hal-disable-polling works? |
| 13:55.33 | jacks__ | how do you get the unique device id? |
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| 13:55.55 | jacks__ | and does this always stays the same? |
| 13:56.25 | jacks__ | is hal-disable-polling still works after reboot? |
| 13:56.57 | jacks__ | what does it disable exactly? |
| 14:00.35 | fxiny | is in the man hal-disable-polling |
| 14:01.33 | fxiny | i don't like my cdrom being harassed every some seconds ;) |
| 14:01.44 | fxiny | iirc 2 seconds |
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| 14:03.07 | fxiny | not always the same . you can revert it back easily |
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| 14:04.49 | jacks__ | this counts also for usb? |
| 14:05.23 | jacks__ | or only for cdrom? |
| 14:06.08 | SparFux | how to use phpldapadmin? I cannot log in to my slapd at all. |
| 14:06.10 | do0ob | Anyone able to help me get my fn+Brightness buttons to ork for my lcd, software can control the brightness, acpi_listen doesn't show any events for fn+brightness(up/down) but does show lid events |
| 14:06.17 | do0ob | i think i might be missing some kernel modules |
| 14:06.30 | jacks__ | fxiny, I mean is the id of the device always the same? |
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| 14:08.33 | fxiny | jacks__: cdrom ? UUIDS are for partitions |
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| 14:13.29 | jacks__ | hal-disable-polling is only related to cdrom? |
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| 14:15.08 | moldovean | !RTFM |
| 14:15.08 | dpkg | i guess rtfm is Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] |
| 14:16.32 | fxiny | man blkid , yes , it makes sense for cdrom if you never load 'em . i use xmonad not gnome or kde , so i don't want hal polling |
| 14:16.53 | jacks__ | ignores molovean |
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| 14:17.09 | fxiny | do not ignore ppl i like |
| 14:17.38 | MeglaW | xmonad <3 |
| 14:19.00 | fxiny | moldovean: he's messing with the don enouf mafia family ;) |
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| 14:23.02 | madmuppet | I cannot get sound for quake3 on lenny 64 .. I have been looking online for a solution but no luck so far .. any hints on what commands I should use to find out info that will be useful in solving my problem appreciated thanks |
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| 14:25.08 | thewanderer1 | madmuppet, use the OpenArena engine, they have OpenAL which should work |
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| 14:25.55 | thewanderer1 | plus, you get some nice shaders :) |
| 14:27.38 | madmuppet | thewanderer1:thanks for the tip |
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| 14:37.37 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice day to all |
| 14:37.52 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 14:38.50 | Posterdati | please I installed a new geforce 6200 card exchanging it with a broken radeon 9200. CPU = Athlon 1200Mhz, X11 complains about sse missing in CPU :( |
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| 14:42.26 | Posterdati | please I installed a new geforce 6200 card exchanging it with a broken radeon 9200. CPU = Athlon 1200Mhz, X11 complains about sse missing in CPU :( and I got blurred colors in kde screen :( |
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| 14:43.26 | lyzaa | hye guys..i got big problem here..i've update my system which apt-get update && upgrade and suddently installed new avahi-daemon and remove current avahi-daemon..when i reboot my pc, then no KDM anymore and when i ran in safe mode..there's a lot of command i cant use such as id, sudo, and so on..so anyone please help me.. |
| 14:44.17 | jargon- | anyone else getting 404 on Packages.gz on a squeeze netinstall? it's killing me |
| 14:46.26 | jargon- | this is the second mirror i'm not getting Packages.gz |
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| 14:47.01 | jargon- | ftp.uk.debian.org and now the one in man.ac.uk or something like that |
| 14:49.40 | Posterdati | fixed! Used nv instead that nvidia driver :) |
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| 14:50.37 | lyzaa | is anyone can help my problems? |
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| 14:51.43 | jhutchins_lt | lyzaa: What relese are you trying to use? |
| 14:52.21 | moldovean | lyzaa, see what Posterdati to fix X |
| 14:52.32 | moldovean | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.59 | lyzaa | jhutchins_lt: squeeze..it start after i apt-get update.. |
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| 14:53.16 | lyzaa | i show some update on avahi-daemon..and i update it.. |
| 14:53.37 | Waxhead1 | I am running squeeze (with all updates just a few seconds ago) and I run vncserver + metacity. I am unable to drag and drop icons. Desktop icons, toolbars etc... you name it ... every drag and drop seems to be broken - any ideas? ( a friend of mine have the same problem on different hardware ). |
| 14:53.41 | superlinux | what is the keyboard shortcut for bullets in OOffice? |
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| 14:55.13 | jargon- | anyone else getting 404 on Packages.gz on a squeeze netinstall? it's killing me |
| 14:55.15 | jargon- | ftp.uk.debian.org and now the one in man.ac.uk or something like that |
| 14:55.20 | jargon- | this is the second mirror i'm not getting Packages.gz |
| 14:55.28 | DogBoy | superlinux, have you heard about google |
| 14:56.08 | superlinux | DogBoy, thanks. |
| 14:56.23 | superlinux | anybody else? hehe:) |
| 14:56.35 | moldovean | !next |
| 14:56.35 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 15:00.05 | moldovean | jargon-, i'll try a older image , maybe a issues on last image |
| 15:00.38 | moldovean | s/ a /an |
| 15:00.42 | fxiny | lyzaa: of course apt-get is ok but i prefere aptitude , and i always check : aptitude -s safe-upgrade or aptitude -s install , -s works with apt-get |
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| 15:01.12 | jargon- | moldovean: fingers crossed. it seems to be past that stage now. currently retrieving apt! :-) |
| 15:01.20 | moldovean | dpkg, tell lyzaa -about lenny->squeeze |
| 15:01.52 | moldovean | jargon-, cool, then |
| 15:02.08 | jargon- | moldovean: oddly, wgetting doesn't work,either: http://dpaste.com/221493/ |
| 15:02.29 | Chris___ | This is a GRUB error, but.. "Error: No such Device: <hdd uid>" |
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| 15:02.48 | jargon- | it's 403 now. not 404. |
| 15:02.51 | moldovean | jargon-, interesting |
| 15:02.51 | jargon- | odd |
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| 15:04.18 | moldovean | jargon-, huh, here works |
| 15:04.30 | jargon- | hmm |
| 15:04.44 | jargon- | then maybe it's an issue here on my transparent proxy |
| 15:04.52 | fxiny | or a typo ? |
| 15:04.52 | moldovean | sure .. |
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| 15:06.03 | fxiny | i found a vim :wq fingerprint on my sources.list last week ;) |
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| 15:09.36 | moldovean | jargon-, you missed /binary-i386 < i before 386 |
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| 15:11.48 | digifor | I am running debian squeeze on the olpc. After upgrading to squeeze the mouse is frozen. |
| 15:12.08 | digifor | is there a keyboard command that can launch a terminal? |
| 15:12.36 | Bushmills | depends on your desktop environment. often alt-f2 |
| 15:13.06 | Bushmills | if you run sugar or such, no idea how. |
| 15:13.22 | jargon- | moldovean: http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/binary-386/Packages.gz ? |
| 15:13.37 | digifor | It is lxde desktop |
| 15:14.05 | moldovean | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.39 | digifor | the olpc has a wierd keyboard which doesn't have the Function keys |
| 15:14.52 | Bushmills | digifor: alt-f1, login, then run DISPLAY=:0 lxvt (or xterm, or rxvt, or whatever xterminal you use) |
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| 15:15.04 | Bushmills | then alt-f7 to return to X |
| 15:15.13 | Bushmills | ehm -- ctrl-alt-f1 first |
| 15:16.06 | jargon- | moldovean: still 403ing |
| 15:16.24 | jargon- | moldovean: but only on the wget,not the netinstall, thankfully |
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| 15:16.31 | moldovean | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.36 | digifor | Thanks Bushmills with this strange keyboard it doesn't work. I am asking on #olpc as well |
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| 15:17.22 | eptalon | hello all |
| 15:17.59 | eptalon | I am using debian sid, and getting an error that my alsa-libs should be upgraded to a certain version, when using vlc. |
| 15:18.15 | moldovean | !sid |
| 15:18.16 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
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| 15:18.23 | eptalon | I wonder if that problem has been addressed, or if there's a workaround |
| 15:18.37 | Bushmills | what problem? |
| 15:18.39 | eptalon | moldovean: I know about "sid". |
| 15:18.53 | Bushmills | "upgrade libs" doesn't sound like much of a problem |
| 15:19.43 | eptalon | Potential ALSA version problem: |
| 15:19.45 | eptalon | VLC failed to initialize your sound output device (if any). |
| 15:19.45 | eptalon | Please update alsa-lib to version 1.0.23-2-g8d80d5f or higher to try to fix this issue. |
| 15:20.07 | Bushmills | so, do it |
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| 15:21.18 | jargon- | eptalon: just upgrade,see if it works |
| 15:21.47 | eptalon | Bushmills: first of all i have no clue about what lib pagacke they are talking about, and secondly, the alsa-libs are at the newest available (today) version |
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| 15:22.05 | Bushmills | get source, compile. debianfy. install. |
| 15:22.19 | Bushmills | as sid user you probably know the chores |
| 15:22.34 | eptalon | I od. |
| 15:22.37 | eptalon | er do. |
| 15:22.41 | wildc4rd | afternoon all |
| 15:22.57 | eptalon | This is an alsa problem, not a VLC one |
| 15:23.03 | eptalon | I presume |
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| 15:23.25 | Posterdati | hi |
| 15:23.26 | Posterdati | please |
| 15:23.43 | Bushmills | "will code for food" ? |
| 15:24.05 | Posterdati | I've got nvidia 6200 + athlon 1200 + squeeze, I could not use nvidia OpenGL driver due to SSE |
| 15:24.36 | Bushmills | what procedure to install nvidia driver? |
| 15:24.47 | MeglaW | Posterdati: athlons like that is a waste of electrical power |
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| 15:25.16 | MeglaW | if u buy a new box youŽll save in the price just in powerbill in a few montshs |
| 15:25.35 | Posterdati | Bushmills: nv or nvidia? |
| 15:27.01 | Bushmills | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.05 | Posterdati | I've got a lot of kernel errors complains about nouveau |
| 15:27.13 | Posterdati | Bushmills: I used debian |
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| 15:27.32 | Posterdati | Bushmills: but kde complains about cpu without sse instructions |
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| 15:27.58 | Bushmills | so the driver as such runs? |
| 15:28.14 | IRConan | Posterdati: solution is clearly get a CPU with SSE :P |
| 15:28.36 | Posterdati | IRConan: you go to buy one for me |
| 15:30.09 | Posterdati | Bushmills: then I changed xorg to nv |
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| 15:33.59 | Bushmills | grin ... BP oil spill problem related: Problems existed from the beginning of drilling the well, Mr. Williams said. For months, the computer system had been locking up, producing what the crew called the "blue screen of death." "It would just turn blue," he said. "You'd have no data coming through." from http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/24/us/24hearings.html |
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| 15:34.38 | fxiny | and the antenna wasn't working :P |
| 15:34.52 | Bushmills | they clearly used a substandard OS in their rig |
| 15:35.32 | fxiny | bribes-business as usual |
| 15:36.12 | Bushmills | also interesting to note: "replacement hardware had been ordered" |
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| 15:37.24 | heraclitus_ | i'm sorry, i'm so stupid... |
| 15:37.51 | Bushmills | you only need to be sorry if you're stupid on purpose |
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| 15:43.57 | heraclitus_ | yes. i replaced video card, radeon hd 4350, is it rv710... my old card was readeon too, x300... i replaced the card and everything works, what's a kind of suprise... but, in iceweasel and even here in pidgin, it scrolls terribly slow... and i'm like stricken with darkness... all i remember was lspci, and it showed it quite correctly, except 256mb instead of 512 it supposed to have... |
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| 15:46.41 | jefke | hello, i want to record a stream from my /dev/video0 (usb attached), i have only terminal access, how can i set this up? |
| 15:47.04 | heraclitus_ | and i have no idea what else to do, do i have to configure xorg, or is it not a good thing to do, or i have to do something else... |
| 15:48.11 | jhutchins_lt | jefke: Ought to be something you can do with mplayer/ffmpeg. |
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| 15:49.18 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: Have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what driver it's using. Compare that with what googling the chipset + xorg finds you. Google the chipset + RAM, see if anybody else has hit this. |
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| 15:49.33 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: DO you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf? They're optional these days. |
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| 15:50.26 | jhutchins_lt | !tell heraclitus_ about radeon |
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| 15:50.53 | heraclitus_ | jhutchins_lt, yes i have xorg.conf |
| 15:51.21 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: Ok, it's probably for your old card, try moving it and see what the system does without it. |
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| 15:51.45 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: Don't skimp on the other suggestions though. |
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| 15:54.57 | heraclitus_ | jhutchins_lt, what should i see in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 15:55.42 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: Gobs and gobs of irrelevant stuff with little tiny clues hidden between the lines. Like which driver it ends up using. Like how it scans the ram. |
| 15:56.13 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: They really need to back off the default logging, it's way to verbose and makes it hard to find stuff. |
| 15:56.41 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: Also copy & save the log from the current conf and compare with the log when you don't have an xorg.conf |
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| 15:59.40 | heraclitus_ | ok |
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| 16:18.46 | Chris___ | Can someone point me at the correct .iso for Squeeze? Not the net installer, I need to do an offline install. |
| 16:19.14 | IRConan | Chris___: squeeze isn't out so there might not be one? |
| 16:19.29 | Chris___ | IRConan: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 16:19.36 | Chris___ | which of the 51 do I download? :p |
| 16:20.02 | IRConan | Chris___: all of them are part of a set |
| 16:20.06 | IRConan | they all have different packages on |
| 16:20.16 | Chris___ | Ah.. |
| 16:20.29 | Chris___ | Would I be forced into a netinstall then? :/ |
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| 16:22.08 | IRConan | Chris___: it's the best way |
| 16:22.13 | IRConan | why do you want to do offline? |
| 16:22.33 | IRConan | squeeze is a very fast moving target so keeping full CD sets up to date would be difficult |
| 16:22.43 | Chris___ | Unless the netinstall supports ath9k, I'm SOL trying to hardline in for a few days |
| 16:23.37 | moldovean | !ath9k |
| 16:23.37 | dpkg | [ath9k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 802.11n PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN chipsets. Included in the mainline Linux kernel since 2.6.27. Lenny users: ask me about <bpo> to install a later kernel image package containing this driver. AR9287 and AR2427 are supported in Debian 2.6.32 kernel images. For USB 802.11n device support, ask me about <ar9170>. http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 16:24.03 | Chris___ | let me rephrase |
| 16:24.14 | Chris___ | unless netinstall comes with ath9k, I have no way to connect to my router, for a few days |
| 16:24.44 | moldovean | netinstall use 2.6.32 kernel |
| 16:25.05 | Chris___ | Oh, so it's in there |
| 16:25.08 | Chris___ | Shiny :D Thanks |
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| 16:27.28 | cdubya | without getting flamed, can someone tell me if debian has any sort of live cd setup to install the distro or can you just download the first CD iso and use that the same way? Also, does the latest stable version have any known bugs with power management and updating the gnome applet? I am using another distro that has this bug and it's incredibly annoying. |
| 16:28.38 | eshat | Is it true, that mozilla removed the strict copyright on their logos, so that iceweasel can be renamed in firefox again ? |
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| 16:29.18 | moldovean | !live |
| 16:29.18 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. As of squeeze, the images can be installed with d-i. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.oftc.net. A preview of the squeeze live image is at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_live_alpha2/ |
| 16:29.50 | cdubya | cool. thanks moldovean |
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| 16:31.46 | themill | eshat: the change has not gone unnoticed. Something might happen, yes. |
| 16:31.46 | heraclitus_ | moved all xorg.conf-s in \etc\X11, works without xorg.conf... deleted xorg.log, so new log file has to be with new card only... nothing changed though, scrolling is still slow... |
| 16:32.36 | moldovean | scrolling what ? |
| 16:32.42 | eshat | themill: that is great, when explaining people why it is called iceweasel in Linux (debian) it also seemed as if the open source people do not live in harmony with each other |
| 16:33.20 | heraclitus_ | like scrolling these messages here, in pidgin... |
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| 16:33.59 | twiggz | but the iceweasel icon is so much cooler looking. |
| 16:35.18 | heraclitus_ | ohh, who i talked to... |
| 16:37.05 | moldovean | heraclitus_, i'll check CPU usage , cpuinfo , figure what may take resources . etc |
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| 16:38.34 | heraclitus_ | moldovean, it's after replacing video card, radeon x300 with radeon hd 4350... |
| 16:38.39 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: google "slow scrolling" and <chipset> |
| 16:38.48 | jhutchins_lt | ? |
| 16:39.06 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: Is it detecting all the ram now? |
| 16:39.12 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: Which driver is it using? |
| 16:39.25 | fxiny | heraclitus_: are you running gnome , kde or what ? |
| 16:40.28 | heraclitus_ | jhutchins_lt, ok, thanks. where should it detect ram? it uses radeon_drv.so ... i run gnome |
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| 16:40.52 | {g} | Hey People! How do you unpack .bz2 files? |
| 16:41.02 | fxiny | unp |
| 16:41.26 | bzed | bunzip2 |
| 16:42.03 | {g} | bzed: which package do i have to install? doesnt work out of the box. |
| 16:42.46 | moldovean | !as |
| 16:42.46 | dpkg | i guess as is autosearch: install apt-file and use apt-cache search <packagename> and/or apt-file search <name> , do it yourself. Don't forget to run apt-file update ;) |
| 16:42.50 | {g} | ah, bzip2 |
| 16:43.13 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: I'm seeing radeonhd for this instead of radeon. Probably ought to look at the radion page on the wiki. |
| 16:43.17 | jhutchins_lt | !radeon |
| 16:43.17 | dpkg | [radeon] A brand of graphic processing units by ATI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). Xorg driver packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration; Squeeze users, ask me about <radeon firmware>. See also <radeonhd>, <fglrx>. http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo #radeon on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 16:43.50 | jhutchins_lt | heraclitus_: Also it's supposedly supported by fglrx, but I have no idea how to implement that. |
| 16:44.33 | {g} | Hmm.. im trying to run firefox 3.6 on lenny. And i get the info that libxul.so is missing. |
| 16:44.42 | {g} | how do you install firefox on lenny? |
| 16:45.10 | moldovean | can't |
| 16:45.42 | moldovean | , versions iceweasel |
| 16:45.44 | judd | iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.10-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.5.10-1; sid: 3.5.11-1; experimental: 3.6.7-1 |
| 16:46.11 | fxiny | libxul.so missing ? what command are you using ? |
| 16:46.13 | {g} | moldovean: what do you mean? why cant i run firefox on lenny? |
| 16:46.27 | {g} | fxiny: "./firefox-bin" in the firefox directory. |
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| 16:47.28 | fxiny | so you are using mozilla firefox . lenny is a diesel engine : it can run with anything |
| 16:47.54 | {g} | Now tried firefox 4.03 |
| 16:47.57 | fxiny | but debian package since long time a version called iceweasel |
| 16:48.17 | {g} | that gives me "libasound.so.2" missing |
| 16:48.34 | {g} | fxiny: yeah, but i need FF 3.6+. Iceweasel is 3.0 |
| 16:49.00 | fxiny | {g}: say again , which debian flavour are you running ? |
| 16:49.25 | {g} | fxiny: debian lenny 5.0 |
| 16:49.31 | themill | "need" |
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| 16:50.06 | {g} | themill: "need" explained: i run rendering software in the browser. and the 3.0 support for canvas is much slower then the 3.6. |
| 16:50.24 | fxiny | lenny can run anything , like etch . no errors |
| 16:50.33 | {g} | so how do i make ff run? |
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| 16:50.44 | themill | 3.5 is available from backports.org |
| 16:50.48 | amee2k | !version awesome |
| 16:50.49 | fxiny | 3.6.7 4 4.03 but it should browse the net with icewilly |
| 16:50.55 | amee2k | 'version awesome |
| 16:51.10 | amee2k | mmmh |
| 16:51.16 | fxiny | xmonad rulez |
| 16:51.19 | fxiny | :) |
| 16:51.25 | amee2k | which bot used to do the version thing again? |
| 16:51.28 | {g} | fxiny: i cannot just download the latest nightly and run it? why? i always do that on ubuntu. |
| 16:51.28 | Kvant | ,version awesome |
| 16:51.33 | themill | amee2k: /msg judd versions awesome |
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| 16:52.05 | themill | {g}: ask mozilla how to run their software. All I know is that they claim it just worksâ¢. |
| 16:52.06 | amee2k | 18:51 <judd> awesome -- etch-backports: 2.3.3-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.3.3-1; sid: 3.4.6-1; squeeze: 3.4.6-1 |
| 16:52.08 | {g} | Shouldnt there be a firefox.deb or something that installs all dependencies? |
| 16:52.18 | amee2k | right.... which one is stable again? etch? |
| 16:52.20 | fxiny | {g}: i knew soon or later you would type ubuntu : my second nick is paganini , i already told you |
| 16:52.42 | {g} | fxiny: ok, so i install ubuntu now? |
| 16:52.54 | fxiny | {g}: stop trolling |
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| 16:53.14 | Kvant | amee2k, lenny is stable |
| 16:53.25 | themill | amee2k: /msg dpkg stable ; /topic |
| 16:54.20 | amee2k | right. <insert your favourite rant about awesome still being 2.3 is considerably not awesome. just like last century> |
| 16:54.26 | {g} | The great thing about the VM im using is that you can install another distri while another one is still runinng. |
| 16:55.59 | {g} | the wonders of the cloud... |
| 16:56.44 | fxiny | {g}: i heard an eucaliptus crashed down on earth from the cloud |
| 16:56.53 | courpse | I've just installed a new kernel on my VPS, how i can i set itto boot with the new kernel? |
| 16:57.10 | heraclitus_ | jhutchins_lt, how this video card installation in general happens nowadays? all i remember is this xorg.conf thing, but there is no xorg.conf any more... is it doing everything automatically? |
| 16:59.04 | fxiny | heraclitus_: are you sure gnome is not interfering with some scroll setting ? i cannot check it |
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| 16:59.29 | fxiny | removing old xorg conf should fix the problem |
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| 17:01.28 | heraclitus_ | fxiny, no, i'm certainly not sure ;) |
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| 17:04.07 | fxiny | all popular apps being packaged by debian or being compiled or just unpacked in debian lenny are working fine . i am a stable user , i hear this song "stable is too old" since woody but i keep on doing all the things i want with stable . i miss nothing at all |
| 17:05.24 | simonrvn | !sns |
| 17:05.25 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 17:06.05 | fxiny | of course my hardware is not modern but this add to the quality and ethic of the debian project : this box is 12 years old and can even run a 2.6.32 bpo kernel . can some other distro do the same ? |
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| 17:06.46 | courpse | I just installed a new kernel, how can i tell the machine to boot with new kernel instead of old one? |
| 17:07.25 | moldovean | grub do it itself |
| 17:07.42 | courpse | Humm, cant of worked then :/ |
| 17:09.08 | CaBa | is there anything to be considered when using lenny and ipv6 on a tun device? |
| 17:09.21 | courpse | linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 is already the newest version.; yet when i reboot machine, it still says 2.6.18-194.3.1.el5.028stab069.6 |
| 17:09.21 | moldovean | courpse, so, you do it wrong |
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| 17:09.54 | themill | courpse: is this a Xen VPS or similar? |
| 17:09.55 | moldovean | courpse, that's not debian .. |
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| 17:10.20 | courpse | its a vePortal VPS. |
| 17:10.38 | themill | courpse: so it's not your kernel that's running anyway. |
| 17:10.58 | courpse | Humm. |
| 17:11.00 | courpse | So i cant do it? |
| 17:11.22 | courpse | Well i have to get host to do it? |
| 17:11.34 | rd | I upgrade to squeeze and have now strange icons in KDE apps, e.g. http://imagebin.ca/view/Xn56oM0O.html shows an example, many identical icons for different tasks. |
| 17:11.42 | simonrvn | yes |
| 17:11.43 | themill | courpse: they're not likely to do so. |
| 17:11.54 | courpse | So im stuck with this one then, :/ |
| 17:12.09 | themill | courpse: what's wrong with it? |
| 17:12.22 | courpse | Well, i was just trying to replicate my old VPS so there was no issues. |
| 17:12.35 | courpse | There isnt anytyhing wrong. |
| 17:12.46 | themill | Don't try to fix problems that don't exist, then. |
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| 17:14.52 | foxfell | hm, i have some problems with kernels, released after 2.6.30... kacpid error, like ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.SMBR] (Node f7012c48), AE_AML_INFINITE_LOOP |
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| 17:22.30 | fubada | hi |
| 17:22.42 | fubada | in the output of "free -m" is cached memory available? |
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| 17:24.01 | shockka | HELP ME MY COMPUTER KEEPS WINNING THE LOTTERY I DONT KNOW HOW TO STOP IT |
| 17:24.25 | babilen | yes |
| 17:24.26 | babilen | !free ram |
| 17:24.26 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
| 17:24.26 | fxiny | -m is megabytes , i am the sage of the man ;P |
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| 17:25.01 | fubada | thanks |
| 17:25.07 | babilen | you are welcome :) |
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| 17:27.27 | amee2k | ... |
| 17:27.29 | amee2k | a computer that insists on winning lotteries would be like a money shitting machine |
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| 17:29.49 | au | lol |
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| 17:32.00 | fxiny | hmmm |
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| 17:32.48 | shockka | Help me every time i buy a computer it explodes. Three people have been to the hospital because of my exploding computers. This isnt a joke please help |
| 17:33.16 | babilen | shockka: Do you have a Debian related question? |
| 17:33.32 | amee2k | ... |
| 17:33.36 | amee2k | thats why you don't install the other operating system from redmond |
| 17:33.44 | shockka | Yeah i think its because of the program |
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| 17:34.06 | fxiny | is BP going into the assembling pc business ? |
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| 17:35.06 | amee2k | wonder whats coming next time |
| 17:35.10 | amee2k | gets popcorn |
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| 17:35.24 | Karen_m | is there a way to get mysql 5.5 on debian? it is not in backports |
| 17:36.07 | IRConan | Karen_m: mysql 5.5 isn't released |
| 17:36.42 | pif | hi, I've compiled a new kernel and it freezes at "free unused kernel memory ...", any idea? |
| 17:36.49 | babilen | Karen_m: You might be able to install the preview release manually. Do you need it? |
| 17:37.02 | babilen | pif: Use a Debian kernel |
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| 17:39.48 | amee2k | bah, how do i change the default character encoding? |
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| 17:40.18 | amee2k | no matter what i do, everything just keeps using ANSI_X3.4-1968 |
| 17:40.29 | amee2k | which is pretty fail, because i do a lot of unicode stuff |
| 17:41.10 | babilen | wtf? You might want to start with "dpkg-reconfigure locales". Do you by chance connect to a remote host? |
| 17:41.16 | fxiny | what's in your /etc/environment ? |
| 17:41.52 | amee2k | fxiny: that file is zero-size |
| 17:42.10 | Karen_m | I was wanting the innodb fixes |
| 17:42.21 | amee2k | babilen: its a desktop but i use ssh+screen in gnome-terminal |
| 17:42.21 | fxiny | do as babilen said then check that file again |
| 17:43.04 | amee2k | "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" is already selected in the list, and thats what i want to use |
| 17:43.07 | babilen | amee2k: What is the output of "locale" ? |
| 17:43.11 | amee2k | what else do i need to do? |
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| 17:43.38 | babilen | And what is the content of /etc/default/locale ? |
| 17:43.55 | amee2k | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/81328/ << output of locale |
| 17:44.23 | amee2k | /etc/default/locale just has one line "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" |
| 17:45.48 | foetus | hello, i try to read out a file by cat created with 'mktemp -t' but it doesn't work. maybe wrong permissions? i have tried 'mktemp -ut', but same result. |
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| 17:46.11 | babilen | amee2k: Hmm, I guess you set your locale somewhere. Check /etc/bashrc, /etc/profile, ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile and others. Does the same happen with a new user account? |
| 17:46.23 | amee2k | so... i've selected en_US.UTF-8 as default again and rebuilt the locales |
| 17:46.58 | amee2k | lemme create one. its pretty much a stock deb5 stable system |
| 17:47.44 | babilen | amee2k: That would have been my next question :) |
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| 17:49.08 | amee2k | mmmh, just created a new acc and logged and |
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| 17:49.25 | amee2k | and suddenly everything defaults to utf8 now |
| 17:49.30 | babilen | hehe |
| 17:49.46 | babilen | everything â old user as well ? |
| 17:50.08 | amee2k | no, just the new one |
| 17:50.08 | pif | what package is responsible to putting basic device nodes in /dev before udev kicks in ? |
| 17:50.19 | amee2k | just re-logged in on the old one just to make sure |
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| 17:50.36 | amee2k | this is annoying |
| 17:50.43 | babilen | amee2k: Check the configuration files i listed earlier for "LC" and "LANG" |
| 17:50.46 | sam113101 | how do I add non-free depots in my sources.list |
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| 17:50.53 | babilen | !tell sam113101 -about non-free |
| 17:50.57 | fxiny | foetus: it doesn't work ? the file should be in /tmp |
| 17:50.58 | babilen | !tell sam113101 -about contrib |
| 17:51.02 | omeddragon | how can install nvidia drivers in 64 bit machine |
| 17:51.09 | amee2k | /etc/environment is still empty |
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| 17:51.17 | babilen | !tell omeddragon -about nvidia |
| 17:51.23 | amee2k | /etc/default/locale still says "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" |
| 17:51.37 | amee2k | 'locale' output is still unchanged |
| 17:51.42 | babilen | amee2k: Yes, have you checked the files I listed earlier (among others) ? |
| 17:51.43 | fxiny | amee2k: try LANG=C LC_ALL=C dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales |
| 17:51.49 | foetus | fxiny: !'mktemp -t' |
| 17:52.30 | amee2k | oh, sec. |
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| 17:52.59 | amee2k | bashrc only has "export TZ='Europe/Berlin'" |
| 17:53.05 | fxiny | foetus: it creates an empyt file in /tmp like file /tmp/tmp.KOtHjeQdJg -> /tmp/tmp.KOtHjeQdJg: empty |
| 17:53.15 | amee2k | .bash_profile doesn't exist |
| 17:53.16 | omeddragon | babilen: do you know to |
| 17:53.44 | amee2k | /etc/bashrc doesn't exist either |
| 17:53.49 | babilen | omeddragon: I don't have a NVIDIA card, but have you read the wiki and the factoids on nvidia pre-built and nvidia m-a ? |
| 17:53.59 | foetus | fxiny: the file is created well, it works very well with patch, but cat is making problems, curious. |
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| 17:54.05 | amee2k | and /etc/profile just sets PATH, PS1 and umask |
| 17:54.19 | fxiny | foetus: which problems ? what's the error ? |
| 17:54.31 | foetus | fxiny: nothing :) |
| 17:54.43 | fxiny | foetus: that's ok , the file is empty |
| 17:54.55 | fxiny | no news good news |
| 17:55.16 | amee2k | fxiny: ran it, regenerated locales again, re-logged in. no change. everything's still using ANSI by default |
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| 17:55.33 | babilen | amee2k: Well - it needs to be set somewhere. What about ~/.bash* and ~/.profile? (Just use grep to check them ...) |
| 17:55.37 | IRConan | amee2k: you could have user settings |
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| 17:55.51 | amee2k | IRConan: where? |
| 17:55.59 | IRConan | what babilen said |
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| 17:56.06 | babilen | amee2k: Or just grep all dot files ... shouldn't take that long |
| 17:56.19 | foetus | fxiny: the target is a .tar.gz , and is untouched. if i cat this tempfile by hand and redirect it with cat through gzip >foo.tar.gz, then it works, but not with mktemp directly. |
| 17:56.19 | amee2k | for ansi? |
| 17:56.49 | babilen | amee2k: No, for "LC" or "LANG" |
| 17:57.12 | foetus | fxiny: tmpfile is not null and ok. |
| 17:57.13 | amee2k | mmmh, bashrc has unset LANG for some reason |
| 17:57.23 | babilen | well :) |
| 17:57.33 | babilen | you might want to remove that :) |
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| 17:58.05 | rking | From the CLI, "aptitude upgrade" does nothing. From the curses UI, it wants to do all this insane stuff, removing pretty much every package. How do I find out why it's doing this? |
| 17:58.07 | amee2k | haha, that did it |
| 17:58.21 | babilen | amee2k: yay :) |
| 17:58.26 | amee2k | babilen: thanks a lot, i've been searching for that one for a week or so now |
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| 17:58.44 | foetus | curious, however. |
| 17:58.55 | babilen | amee2k: You are welcome. Just come here a bit earlier next time :) |
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| 17:59.03 | amee2k | it was a workaround i put in for my old shell provider... fixed an issue with their perl installation being broken |
| 17:59.08 | foetus | :) |
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| 17:59.20 | amee2k | it used to poop lots of locale errors on stderr without it, which was highly annoying |
| 17:59.44 | amee2k | babilen: hehe :) |
| 17:59.49 | amee2k | will do |
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| 18:00.26 | babilen | amee2k: enjoy your new utf8 console and the rest of the day/evening |
| 18:00.48 | amee2k | :) |
| 18:00.52 | amee2k | thanks |
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| 18:01.48 | babilen | rking: You might want to cancel pending actions (actions â canel pending actions) or by calling "aptitude keep-all" |
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| 18:02.18 | rking | babilen: Sounds great. I'm still curious why it happened in the first place. |
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| 18:03.02 | rking | I wonder where it stores its "pending actions"? I am running as root, so I wonder if it's global or if it's under $USER/.aptitude somewhere. |
| 18:03.28 | babilen | rking: If I have to make an educated guess: you have removed a package that is part of a meta-package (like gnome) and canceled that ... aptitude remembered that you wanted to do that |
| 18:04.02 | babilen | rking: Good question, but I unfortunately don't know the answer off hand. Let me know when you've figured that out |
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| 18:04.29 | ppalmes | in /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 18:04.39 | babilen | ppalmes: thanks |
| 18:04.41 | ppalmes | rking: any incomplete status |
| 18:04.57 | rking | babilen: But why would it end up removing stuff below even gnome? It wanted to remove util-linux |
| 18:05.08 | ppalmes | dependencies |
| 18:05.24 | ppalmes | a to b to c ... etc |
| 18:05.50 | rking | In fact, when I hit "g", the first thing that came up was, "You are trying to remove package xyz, which is a fundamental package. If you actually want to do this, type below, 'Yes, I really want to do this very bad idea.'" |
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| 18:06.14 | rking | ppalmes: I don't get it. What could I have possibly told it to remove that would make it say, "Yep, util-linux is no longer needed." |
| 18:06.40 | ppalmes | rking: one of the base package like sysvinit will have that kind of prompt |
| 18:06.54 | rking | ppalmes: Ahh. But I know I wouldn't have done that. |
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| 18:07.17 | ppalmes | rking: are you running stable? |
| 18:07.21 | rking | ppalmes: Nope. |
| 18:07.24 | rking | sid. |
| 18:07.31 | ppalmes | rking: ok that explains |
| 18:07.48 | ppalmes | rking: there are cases when you update that the packages in sid are in the transition... |
| 18:08.13 | rking | ppalmes: Ahhhh, OK. That's much more plausible than my previous explanation (space aliens, malicious) |
| 18:08.23 | ppalmes | so during dep checks, those important packages are not there so the pakage management is trying to be smart about |
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| 18:08.52 | rking | ppalmes: But why would it not be going crazy from the CLI? Is there a different set of pending actions for CLI and curses UI? |
| 18:08.57 | ppalmes | rking: always be careful when you upgrade... always read what packages will be affected |
| 18:09.39 | ppalmes | rking: what you mean? i just joined. maybe you can explain again. |
| 18:10.17 | rking | ppalmes: Well, "aptitude upgrade" was doing nothing, but "aptitude" then hitting "g" brought the crazy list of actions. |
| 18:10.28 | rking | I would have thought those two would be in sync. |
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| 18:11.31 | ppalmes | rking: i see. you mean the aptitude curses based UI is using pending status not in UI |
| 18:12.11 | ppalmes | rking: i think it is using dselect |
| 18:12.16 | rking | ppalmes: curses is using pending status not in CLI |
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| 18:14.53 | ppalmes | rking: that maybe a bug for aptitude? |
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| 18:17.26 | rking | ppalmes: I'm not sure. I've always only used the CLI, just now starting to enjoy using the curses UI, so I'm not sure if I somehow told it to do the wrong thing. It was unexpected, but that might be because my expectations were wrong. |
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| 18:19.03 | Posterdati | hi |
| 18:19.07 | ppalmes | rking: the same issue with dselect and apt-get. i think aptitude curses is using different data somewhere. |
| 18:19.27 | Posterdati | please is there amd-k7-agp in kernel 2.6.32-5-686 (debian squeeze) |
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| 18:20.40 | ppalmes | rking: in sid, always make sure you've done the update before doing other things to make sure you have the correct sync specially sid changes often. |
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| 18:21.51 | sam113101 | thewanderer1, you must help me |
| 18:22.19 | thewanderer1 | sam113101, why? |
| 18:22.37 | sam113101 | I discovered which driver I was using |
| 18:22.48 | sam113101 | X -configue made it |
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| 18:23.26 | sam113101 | it said |
| 18:23.28 | sam113101 | radeon |
| 18:23.37 | sam113101 | radeon was the name of the driver |
| 18:23.47 | thewanderer1 | alright, so what's the problem now? |
| 18:24.18 | sam113101 | I just reinstalled debian, I don't want to use smxi |
| 18:24.43 | thewanderer1 | so you can just configure your X server, right? |
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| 18:25.21 | sam113101 | if I try to use the radeon driver, it doesn't work |
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| 18:25.49 | sam113101 | same thing that was happening before smxi |
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| 18:25.58 | sam113101 | I don't get it |
| 18:26.49 | thewanderer1 | have you checked what file you had been using before? the one that smxi had generated, I guess |
| 18:27.01 | thewanderer1 | you can learn the settings from there and implement them later |
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| 18:50.15 | rking | I wonder why fityk is tagged as legacy. I like that thing. |
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| 18:59.40 | M07w | does debian have core load ballancing? |
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| 19:00.28 | xx1 | what do you mean? |
| 19:00.53 | themill | rking: no idea |
| 19:00.53 | tharkun | If i parsed your question correctly that is a kernel attribute, not distribution specific |
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| 19:01.51 | Smirnov | is there any way to do an apt-get build-dep but have it use the Build-Depends line from a debian/control file (for when you are building a package that isnt yet in a repository) |
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| 19:02.53 | themill | Smirnov: no, /msg dpkg build-dep |
| 19:03.35 | M07w | so does the kernel have load balancing? |
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| 19:03.42 | Smirnov | errrr? ok |
| 19:04.17 | thewanderer1 | M07w: http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/ load balancer |
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| 19:05.23 | heraclitus_ | ohh, two errors in xorg log, open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory, and RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed ... |
| 19:05.42 | hodges | how do you disable screen's banner/motd/annoying message it keeps feeding me when I launch it? |
| 19:06.15 | M07w | that doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for |
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| 19:06.36 | thewanderer1 | M07w: so what load balancing do you mean? |
| 19:06.37 | xx1 | hodges: echo "startup_message off" >> ~/.screenrc |
| 19:07.10 | MACscr | what do i need to install on my debian server so i can start, stop, restart, etc, services by just running: 'service httpd restart', etc? |
| 19:07.33 | xx1 | asked what he means with "core load balancing" |
| 19:07.37 | MACscr | thewanderer1: is lvs even developed anymore? i dont think there has been a release in 2 years |
| 19:07.38 | hodges | xx1: thanks! |
| 19:07.46 | M07w | I'm looking at a server on craigslist, it's got two early Xeon processors, by themselves they're pretty weak so unless debian is capable of making both be utilized regardless of the program's core awareness it's not worth the 30$ |
| 19:08.07 | xx1 | lol |
| 19:08.14 | bzed | wtf? |
| 19:08.18 | xx1 | hahaha |
| 19:08.23 | xx1 | that's what you call load balancing |
| 19:08.24 | xx1 | -.- |
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| 19:08.38 | M07w | the balancing of load between cores, yes |
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| 19:08.40 | thewanderer1 | M07w: you know, processes get executed on both cores and Linux keeps juggling them whenever it feels like doing so |
| 19:08.41 | bzed | smp was invented some years ago |
| 19:08.53 | MACscr | lol, thats hilarious |
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| 19:09.27 | xx1 | processes are not executed on multiple cores unless the program is build to |
| 19:09.35 | xx1 | (concurrency problems) |
| 19:09.40 | M07w | that's not what I'm saying |
| 19:10.06 | M07w | it used to be that unless the program knew how to use cores all programs would always execute on the first core |
| 19:10.18 | g0rd0n_ | i have a problem with my eth0 not being detected for some reason... i have a decchip card and loaded the tulip module, but for some reason i get errors when doing ifup eth0... : "No such device"... maybe it's not called eth0 but something else? |
| 19:10.20 | g0rd0n_ | how can i find out? |
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| 19:10.54 | thewanderer1 | M07w: Linux manages it, and programs execute on the core that has the least load, so the load is distributed among all cores, unless you explicitly state the opposite. |
| 19:11.05 | M07w | so yes |
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| 19:11.15 | M07w | you all don't have to be dicks about every little thing |
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| 19:11.34 | MACscr | lol |
| 19:11.42 | xx1 | well, this is my _wtf_ moment of the day |
| 19:12.00 | xx1 | he appears to have woken up from the eighties |
| 19:12.42 | xx1 | really suck to get stuck in time |
| 19:12.56 | craigevil | g0rd0n_: check /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:13.01 | tharkun | Ask an intelligent question and you will get an intelligent answer. (typos not included) |
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| 19:17.30 | themill | rking: it just indicates that there was some old, now removed science tags on the package that need updating now.... not that the package is legacy (there are other special:: tags for that) |
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| 19:19.40 | Zambezi | Broken packages last update in Squeeze. ntp: Breaks: dhcp3-client (< 4.1.0-1) but 3.1.3-2 is installed. || ntpdate: Breaks: dhcp3-client (< 4.1.0-1) but 3.1.3-2 is installed. |
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| 19:21.35 | thewanderer1 | as they say, "..it happens" |
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| 19:22.23 | g0rd0n_ | craigevil: i just tried incrementally and got lucky with eth3 lol |
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| 19:23.54 | craigevil | Zambezi: its called 'testing' for a reason, things break |
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| 19:25.44 | g0rd0n_ | yeh but there is a < |
| 19:25.44 | g0rd0n_ | so it should not complain |
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| 19:26.45 | moldovean | g0rd0n_, seems you try to install ntp from sid , recheck please |
| 19:27.03 | Zambezi | craigevil: Yes, but I'm just mention it. Unfortunatelly no solution is good, so I just wait a couple of days. |
| 19:27.39 | moldovean | sry g0rd0n_, was for Zambezi, |
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| 19:30.53 | eshat | could it be that libcv disappeared from sid ? |
| 19:31.17 | eshat | frei0r-plugins and kipi-plugins have unsatisfied dependencies now |
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| 19:33.50 | moldovean | , versions libcv4 |
| 19:33.51 | judd | libcv4 -- squeeze: 2.0.0-4+b1 |
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| 19:35.54 | thewanderer1 | I think sid sometimes misses packages |
| 19:36.04 | thewanderer1 | renames them or just drops temporarily |
| 19:36.59 | eshat | thewanderer1: true, it could be that opencv is the actual package but the dependencies of frei0r and kipi-plugins have to be set again |
| 19:37.41 | themill | welcome to sid? |
| 19:38.33 | eshat | ahh ok, found it in the changelog: |
| 19:38.37 | eshat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.39 | eshat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:41.09 | MACscr | this is weird, i installed sysvconfig on two different servers and they both came from the exact same debian image. Anyway, with one i can restart services fine using service restart mysql or whatever, but the second one its saying: '-bash: /sbin/service: No such file or directory' |
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| 19:41.30 | MACscr | ive uninstalled sysvconfig and restinstalled, no diff |
| 19:42.48 | thewanderer1 | then check whether you really have /sbin/service |
| 19:43.24 | MACscr | thewanderer1: i dont on either, but it works on the first one |
| 19:45.02 | thewanderer1 | then your binary path is wrong |
| 19:45.17 | themill | MACscr: did you install and then uninstall "chkconfig"? |
| 19:45.34 | MACscr | themill: yeah, didnt realize the stupid thing conflicted. Sucks you cant have both |
| 19:45.45 | MACscr | but i did that on both of them afaik |
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| 19:46.16 | themill | umm... they don't conflict |
| 19:46.33 | themill | MACscr: either log out and log back in, or "hash -r" |
| 19:47.08 | MACscr | themill: when i installed chkconfig after sysvconfig, it removes sysvconfig |
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| 19:53.09 | action09 | hi all, anyone succeeded installing FREETALK Buddy Cam on Lenny ? |
| 19:53.12 | action09 | if so :) |
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| 19:54.39 | iluminator101 | hi when i try to install w32 codec in debian multimedia it says its obsolete what is called now |
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| 19:56.14 | moldovean | !w32codecs |
| 19:56.14 | dpkg | w32codecs is a <non-free> package not distributed by Debian due to legal issues. The package provides codecs for several multimedia formats, such as DivX ;-), RealAudio/RealVideo, and Windows Media. To get w32codecs, ask me about <debian-multimedia>. If you are looking for similar plugins for <gstreamer>, then look at the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg packages. |
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| 19:57.09 | MACscr | themill: any idea what i could be doing wrong that would have it remove sysvconfig if it wasnt needed to be removed? |
| 19:58.17 | iluminator101 | also i tried to encrptt a odf file i had, now its a bunch of random letter anways to reverse that |
| 19:58.29 | iluminator101 | encrypt* |
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| 20:10.26 | Chris___ | Why is it that installing 'ntp' wants me to uninstall 'dhcp3-client network-manager network-manager-gnome' ? |
| 20:12.06 | hid3 | Evening everyone. Any ideas how do I prevent rsyncd from trying to resolve client FQDN? In logs I see it tries, by default... |
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| 20:15.03 | Chris___ | Also, is there some way I can get the "Turn off my touchpad button" to actually turn off my touchpad? |
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| 20:26.45 | taras | hi. I just unpacked default squeeze's vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64, and its stipped elf. how can I get debugging symbols for it? |
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| 20:27.04 | taras | I need them in oprofiler |
| 20:28.02 | taras | oh, I didn't noticed apropriate package |
| 20:28.06 | dondelelcaro | taras: they're presumably in the -dbg packages |
| 20:29.14 | lindi- | they are |
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| 20:41.38 | thewanderer1 | why won't gedit paste my clipboard contents when I click on the edit field with my middle mouse button? |
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| 20:44.46 | matt7676 | If I make a partition using fdisk, it starts from sector 63. What is stored on sectors 0-62(31KB)? |
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| 20:47.26 | thewanderer1 | matt7676: here, it starts with sector 8. I don't really know. In sector 0 there is the MBR. |
| 20:49.13 | magyar | hi, is there a way to read a pdc from console? |
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| 20:50.49 | matt7676 | thewanderer1, yes, sector 0(first 512 baits) should be MBR |
| 20:52.55 | Tramp | matt7676: typically a bootloader (for the old grub it was called the "stage 1.5" loader - not sure what grub2 calls it) |
| 20:53.37 | thewanderer1 | I can see my GRUB at 0x410 on my disk |
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| 20:54.09 | thewanderer1 | which is 1040 in decimal |
| 20:54.23 | thewanderer1 | is happy that he can remember hex |
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| 20:55.31 | embrik | how do I import video from a HD-camera (Sony) connected to the USB-port? |
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| 20:55.47 | andihit | hi |
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| 20:57.44 | andihit | just made an aptitude dist-upgrade (testing), but the process doesn't finished. so I tried kill and kill -9 aptitude, doesn't work, then I tried reboot, and now that doesn't work either, I have no SSH access anymore. any idea what I can do remotely? ;) |
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| 20:59.30 | matt7676 | thewanderer1, how do you check this? |
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| 20:59.56 | matt7676 | Tramp, you mean GRUB stage 1 calls stage 1.5 loader, which is installed between sectors 1-62? |
| 21:00.13 | Tramp | yes |
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| 21:03.28 | markinfo | hi. is there possibilty with xrandr 1.3.2 to use simultan in dualview mode two different graphics cards? |
| 21:03.55 | Mobile_Queue | anduhit, remote upgrades to testing seems reckless. |
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| 21:04.30 | Mobile_Queue | andihit, ^ |
| 21:04.35 | thewanderer1 | matt7676: dd if=/dev/sda of=diskdump0-7.sectors bs=512 count=8 && xxd diskdump0-7.sectors |
| 21:05.17 | andihit | Mobile_Queue: the system is (was) already testing |
| 21:05.17 | thewanderer1 | I don't think GRUB takes up more than just 7 sectors |
| 21:05.29 | matt7676 | Tramp, ok. But has every partition similar kind of part before real data sectors? |
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| 21:06.08 | thewanderer1 | matt7676: it is possible to install GRUB on any partition, so presumably yes |
| 21:06.45 | thewanderer1 | either that, or GRUB does heavy hacking |
| 21:08.02 | Tramp | matt7676: I don't know. I remember that I once tried to find out, how exactly a "partition boot record" worked and I remember that I got the impression, that in the general case it doesn't (because those 63 sectors are only guaranteed between the beginning of the disk (mbr) and the first partition) |
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| 21:08.56 | thewanderer1 | Tramp: I only have 8 sectors before the first partition... |
| 21:09.21 | Tramp | matt7676: but I got tired on the way and decided, that I don't care enough because my whole life I only installed a bootloader in the MBR |
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| 21:11.16 | Carp2 | Hello, there! I am pulling my hair out, trying to figure out this obscure "bug" that is killin' me. Even though df reports my /home dir w/ 58GB free (out of a total of 112GB allocated), I am not able to copy ~12GB of data from an external USB drive due to the message "cp: cannot create regular file [file]: no space left on device". ext3 is the local filesystem & ext4 is the external drive's filesystem |
| 21:11.20 | Tramp | thewanderer1: weird - all the stage1_5 I see in /boot/grub on my laptop (which is still the old grub) are larger than 4k |
| 21:11.46 | Carp2 | I do not have quotas turned on either interface... nor do I know of anything else that could be causing this. fresh Debian Lenny install. |
| 21:12.20 | thewanderer1 | Tramp, grub2 here |
| 21:12.54 | Carp2 | I have also had the same message given even when creating files on the local /home partition. it seems as though 55GB is the absolute cap that it is willing to write to |
| 21:13.35 | Carp2 | Oh, the /home partition is also within an LVM volume, of which /usr & /var is as well. /boot & / are separate (ext3) filesystems |
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| 21:14.05 | thewanderer1 | Carp2: it is not a quota limit message. have you tried to check inodes? df -i |
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| 21:15.09 | Carp2 | thewanderer1: ah-ha! I knew it wasn't quota. I should have followed by gut feeling. I am indeed out of inodes. only three remain. ugh |
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| 21:16.07 | thewanderer1 | Carp2: pack some old, unused files into tar archives - you will save yourself inodes |
| 21:16.12 | Carp2 | thewanderer1: thank you so very much ... do you know of any other diagnostics / info I can pull as to see why this was created as it was? (I used the defaults from Debian installer methinks) |
| 21:16.34 | matt7676 | thewanderer1, Tramp fdisk probably thinks taht I'll install GRUB1 and thatswhy starts partition 1 from secrot 63. |
| 21:17.17 | thewanderer1 | Carp2: not really, I think that mkfs.ext3 calculates it on its own - see its options and the manpage, you may be able to create a new filesystem with more inodes in the future |
| 21:17.46 | Tramp | matt7676: no. I think it's "required" by some "legacy software" that partitions start on "cylinder boundries" - although those terms don't applay anymore since about a decade |
| 21:18.21 | Carp2 | thewanderer1: unfortunately, that's not an option here. I will correct the problem at its source & simply backup and re-create the filesystem but with the proper params for desired usage type. |
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| 21:18.40 | thewanderer1 | matt7676, Tramp: I installed using fdisk from testing and on an SSD, if this can clarify |
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| 21:19.17 | Carp2 | thewanderer1: once again, I am very grateful to have found this out! thank you so very much |
| 21:19.31 | thewanderer1 | it happens once a week to server admins :P |
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| 21:20.32 | joejoe | Carp2: You knew there had to be a logical explanation somewhere. I know what that's like. |
| 21:21.36 | Carp2 | joejoe: *nods* indeed. I simply didn't know the magical command to issue the right question & response :] |
| 21:21.48 | thewanderer1 | it's called /join #debian ... |
| 21:22.10 | Carp2 | hehehe, or http://www.google.com :] |
| 21:22.25 | Carp2 | I had overlooked the possibility of free inodes based on a silly assumption |
| 21:22.41 | Carp2 | I would have never found it by search query, thou |
| 21:23.00 | SparFux1 | My local loopback network seems to get saturated when iceweasel loads pages and mldonkey is running or similar. What can I do for it to have enough resources to handle that without stalling? |
| 21:23.42 | thewanderer1 | in fact, I think mkfs just picks a constant number of inodes, regardless of the size - this might be the reason for its useless choice |
| 21:23.56 | thewanderer1 | SparFux1: what kernel? |
| 21:24.21 | SparFux1 | debian kernel 2.6.32 and vanilla kernel 2.6.35-rc3 |
| 21:24.38 | Carp2 | I've been in midst of major file migration for the past couple months and it does not surprise me at all that inode counts afflict me here ... I should have known this was it -- I had just dealt with a nasty scenario where Beagle's extended attributes had somehow sucked away my last 30GB on my gluster volume ... (over a million files, so those 128 bytes per file add up!) |
| 21:24.38 | SparFux1 | debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
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| 21:25.46 | Carp2 | I was planning on upgrading these ext3 fs on the Debian install up to ext4 anyhow, as my usage damn near requires such. (ext4 expands the extended attribute space allocation by another 128-256 bytes, forget which exactly) |
| 21:26.30 | thewanderer1 | SparFux1: does it happen with both kernels? |
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| 21:26.46 | SparFux1 | Yes. I know 2.6.35-rc5 has this local loopback bug. |
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| 21:26.52 | Carp2 | it seems as though my needs are rather exotic sometimes even as far as a typical distribution defaults are concerned :] |
| 21:26.57 | SparFux1 | but 2.6.32 fails on my lcoal loopback network, too. |
| 21:27.25 | SparFux1 | it's not always the case. I observed a coincidence with network load. |
| 21:27.45 | thewanderer1 | Carp2: as you are very likely to forget about copying files with their attributes on backup/moving, you could really do the same with a database of metadata (SQLite/MySQL) |
| 21:27.52 | Carp2 | frustuation always follows regardless of the OS I choose, but by far the least incurred by the infinite choice provided by Linux |
| 21:28.25 | thewanderer1 | (hint: that's what KDE and GNOME do) |
| 21:28.34 | Carp2 | thewanderer1: yes, I fully intend on dealing with such in that fashion at some point in the future. hopefully sooner than later... |
| 21:28.52 | thewanderer1 | SparFux1: have you checked what saturates the loopback interface? |
| 21:29.30 | SparFux1 | hm.... atm there is no traffic at all and still the local loopback laggs. |
| 21:29.49 | thewanderer1 | laggs as in what? |
| 21:29.53 | SparFux1 | just as I told I, I notice it does not seem to be correct that it depends on network traffic. |
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| 21:30.08 | Carp2 | thewanderer1: I've just gotta make it through the summer's obligations before I can see the free time to do further organization ... I truly hate the fact that I'm sorta rushing these crucial-to-me things, but ... *shrug* almost there...... |
| 21:30.17 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: e.g. I can do ssh 127.0.0.1 and sometimes I get connected, but most of the times ssh just hangs. |
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| 21:30.41 | Carp2 | thewanderer1: time is forever against us :-) |
| 21:30.44 | thewanderer1 | SparFux1: are you running virtualization on the host? or a bridge? using custom network-related sysfs options? running a firewall? |
| 21:30.45 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: or telnet. I have no telnetd and I just do telnet 127.0.0.1 to get "connection refused" immediately. |
| 21:30.54 | SparFux1 | no vm, no bridge. |
| 21:31.07 | SparFux1 | firewall yes. but I even tried without. |
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| 21:31.21 | SparFux1 | take a look at http://www.alice-dsl.net/jkl345/net.txt |
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| 21:31.52 | SparFux1 | the telnet client simply does not get any answer back when it hangs. |
| 21:31.56 | thewanderer1 | is this actually your write-up? |
| 21:32.43 | heraclitus_ | oh holy bear, i solved the scrolling problem for radeon hd 4350, but my rendering method is still software rasterizer... |
| 21:32.53 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: I wrote that, yes. Or what do you mean? |
| 21:33.44 | thewanderer1 | SparFux1: have you tried to turn off IPv6 in Firefox? and to turn off IPv6 globally in the system? |
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| 21:34.20 | SparFux1 | Yes. I used kernel parameter to deactivate ipv6 completely and additionally deactivated it via sysctl. |
| 21:34.22 | SparFux1 | does not help. |
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| 21:35.55 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: I added to the bottom of net.txt, just reload. |
| 21:36.04 | SparFux1 | telnet session hanging. |
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| 21:36.25 | heraclitus_ | just replace a video card, and, manually downloading debian packages, solving dependencies, changing conf file... |
| 21:36.41 | thewanderer1 | SparFux1: you basically get lots of TIME_WAIT sockets |
| 21:36.50 | SparFux1 | wait a minute! why does it at all ask for res.sc.priv address? 23:33:32.310795 IP 127.0.0.1.46144 > 127.0.0.1.53: 7870+ A? res.sc.priv. (29) |
| 21:37.26 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: yes, but what's the cause for this? I think I get lots of TIME_WAIT because the networks stalls. |
| 21:37.51 | thewanderer1 | SparFux1: I don't happen to know what res.sc.priv is... |
| 21:38.04 | SparFux1 | currently I get no TIME_WAIT, but network hangs anyway. |
| 21:38.14 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: res.sc.priv is a local dns name. |
| 21:38.25 | SparFux1 | resolving to 192.168.123.108 which is local interface. |
| 21:38.33 | SparFux1 | connections to that interface "hang", too. |
| 21:38.35 | heraclitus_ | and still there is only software rendering... |
| 21:38.59 | thewanderer1 | SparFux1: the connections use high port numbers all alike, not all that random |
| 21:39.18 | thewanderer1 | it seems that all client ports get used up |
| 21:39.28 | SparFux1 | I wrote that script line to test connections. In a good world, this line would run through and count up, as every telnet invocation gets "connection refused" immediately. C=1 ; while /bin/true ; do echo "try $C" ; telnet 127.0.0.1 ; ((C++)) ; done |
| 21:40.03 | thewanderer1 | yes, it would |
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| 21:40.29 | thewanderer1 | I really doubt any client program will behave nicely if it can't allocate client sockets |
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| 21:40.48 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: but look at the current scenariio, and there is huge lagg right now: http://pastebin.com/D1Gv17iE |
| 21:41.13 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: can I increase maximum sockets? |
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| 21:41.47 | thewanderer1 | SparFux1: ISO/OSI specifies a maximum port number usable in TCP... that means no |
| 21:42.18 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: so the postings are right. there's only the chance to make the stale sockets get closed faster. |
| 21:42.32 | SparFux1 | but I wonder what uses up all my sockets. |
| 21:42.58 | thewanderer1 | are you really using that many servers? ssh, some sql databases, ldap ? |
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| 21:43.27 | thewanderer1 | I think you're running every daemon possible |
| 21:44.03 | SparFux1 | I am not running ssh atm. and sql database I have mysql and postgresql, but not in use atm. ldap is installed and running, but again not in use. |
| 21:44.40 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: it's not so much: http://pastebin.com/7WSiv5pw |
| 21:44.57 | thewanderer1 | have you tried to monitor the breakage in real time using a fast `watch` and perhaps some general network monitor like jnettop? |
| 21:45.21 | thewanderer1 | perhaps you're just a target of SYN flood from the bad guys on a p2p network or so |
| 21:45.48 | thewanderer1 | also, check your router's logs, if applicable |
| 21:46.01 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: no, haven't watched in real time. |
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| 21:47.01 | thewanderer1 | try to set a lower socket timeout in the system - it should provide better results with p2p |
| 21:47.12 | thewanderer1 | and that's all I can suggest, I'm afraid |
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| 21:48.07 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: the router is flooded with messages like Sat 24 Jul 2010 10:47:04 PM CET Unrecognized attempt blocked from 77.35.196.161:12604 to 92.224.209.1 UDP:56909 |
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| 21:49.08 | SparFux1 | and 92.224.209.1 seems to be from russia. |
| 21:49.43 | thewanderer1 | then what is 77.35.196.161 and why is somebody doing IP spoofing? |
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| 21:51.06 | SparFux1 | I mean the 77.* is from russia. 92.224.* is me. |
| 21:51.11 | thewanderer1 | alright... |
| 21:51.34 | tokigalor | hello |
| 21:51.37 | SparFux1 | but the last entry is one hour ago. |
| 21:51.51 | tokigalor | no it's five hours ago |
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| 21:53.34 | SparFux1 | tokigalor: it's CET. |
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| 21:54.04 | thewanderer1 | I don't think I can provide a logical reason for this weird system behaviour |
| 21:54.20 | thewanderer1 | you could always try heuristics and simulate an Internet |
| 21:55.20 | SparFux1 | and there are addresses from china and from all over the world: http://pastebin.com/phmAWipv |
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| 21:55.40 | SparFux1 | simulate an internet? |
| 21:56.04 | thewanderer1 | yes, that's probably the last option to try, though |
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| 21:56.17 | SparFux1 | how to do that? and what for? |
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| 21:58.29 | thewanderer1 | well, hook up some hardware to the router, setup virtual networking, bridges, routers and so on, allocate addresses, run a p2p network or an equivalent (like a http server, you say it's firefox which causes problems) and see when the problems occur. what for? for a clean testing environment... this thing is time resource-intensive, though. |
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| 21:58.51 | thewanderer1 | I begin to suspect Firefox, though |
| 21:58.54 | SparFux1 | now I got about 8 entries in the log and still the network loopback is not reachable. |
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| 21:59.06 | SparFux1 | but the router blcoks the requests. |
| 21:59.34 | thewanderer1 | the UDP datagrams are probably just people trying to reach your p2p |
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| 22:00.13 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: my p2p is not running for let's say 20 minutes now. |
| 22:00.27 | thewanderer1 | the world might not know, anyway |
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| 22:00.38 | taras | hi. seems that package that contains kernel -dbg symbols is missing symbols for some modules - http://pastebin.ca/1907710 |
| 22:00.49 | SparFux1 | and they try to reach location service. |
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| 22:01.22 | thewanderer1 | have you tried to run another browser instead of Firefox (like iceweasel, or Chromium) and see if the problem persists? |
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| 22:01.39 | SparFux1 | I tried midori and one time it didn't happen, but the other time it did. |
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| 22:02.15 | thewanderer1 | okay, this sounds bad... memcheck? |
| 22:02.18 | SparFux1 | for example now, the timei midori came up, the telnet hangs. |
| 22:02.25 | thewanderer1 | memtest86+, says House |
| 22:02.40 | SparFux1 | thewanderer1: ok, I can do that. |
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| 22:02.49 | SparFux1 | I will memcheck the night over. |
| 22:02.51 | thewanderer1 | it sounds much like a random memory error |
| 22:03.10 | thewanderer1 | assuming that the kernel uses a constant memory address for network stack |
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| 22:03.18 | SparFux1 | hm.... |
| 22:03.25 | thewanderer1 | and I doubt we have ASLR in the kernel |
| 22:03.32 | SparFux1 | ASLR? |
| 22:03.38 | simonrvn | !aslr |
| 22:03.46 | thewanderer1 | ha! ha ha |
| 22:03.52 | thewanderer1 | address space layout randomization |
| 22:03.59 | SparFux1 | ok. |
| 22:04.05 | SparFux1 | I can do a memtest86+ over night. |
| 22:04.07 | SparFux1 | good idea. |
| 22:04.22 | thewanderer1 | also check voltages and so on |
| 22:04.37 | thewanderer1 | I've had weird errors due to strange voltages |
| 22:04.40 | SparFux1 | ok, thx for all tthe help! |
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| 22:04.49 | SparFux1 | see you tomorrow... |
| 22:04.54 | thewanderer1 | alright, back to work |
| 22:05.02 | SparFux1 | thx! |
| 22:05.05 | filePeter | Great! |
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| 22:10.50 | slackerr | hi. where is "mplex" tool in squeeze? |
| 22:11.46 | thewanderer1 | ,versions mplex |
| 22:11.48 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'mplex' was found. |
| 22:12.15 | icebrain | slackerr: mjpegtools |
| 22:12.47 | icebrain | apt-file is your friend :) |
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| 22:13.15 | slackerr | icebrain: is tere no mjpegtools in squeeze? It was removed? |
| 22:13.59 | icebrain | slackerr: oh, sorry, it seems so |
| 22:14.14 | slackerr | sad |
| 22:14.15 | icebrain | slackerr: it's from debian-multimedia |
| 22:14.23 | slackerr | no lame, no mjpegtools |
| 22:14.28 | icebrain | http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-hppa/package/mjpegtools.php |
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| 22:15.19 | slackerr | do you use debian-multimedia? ive heard it brokes some compability with distro packages.. |
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| 22:16.43 | peta | i'm using qmail and courier and want to offer temporary email adresses that redirect received email to another email address (stored in a db). how could i realize this? |
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| 22:17.15 | icebrain | slackerr: I use it and have never experienced any problems |
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| 22:18.02 | jan | hi |
| 22:18.10 | icebrain | hi jan |
| 22:18.36 | jan | i want to knoe which module i have to blacklist to disable the webcam |
| 22:19.06 | jhutchins_lt | peta: Read the docs for your mailer. Running a public mailserver is NOT something you do with a few clicks from some guy on IRC. |
| 22:19.13 | jan | i know it is attached about internal usb and i know the bus and the device |
| 22:19.38 | jan | but how can i find out which modules are used |
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| 22:20.46 | babilen | jan: That depends on your specific webcam. Take a look at "lsmod" and blacklist the specific module by following the instructions you can get from dpkg by issuing "/msg dpkg blacklist" in your IRC client. "/msg dpkg webcam" might also be interesting |
| 22:20.47 | peta | jhutchins_lt: okay. what exactly is _so_ problematic with public mailservers? |
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| 22:21.19 | babilen | jan: You could also paste the output of lsmod to http://paste.debian.net and we can have a look |
| 22:23.32 | jan | babilen: is there no way to find out which module the device use by looking at 'lsusb -s' |
| 22:24.10 | babilen | jan: Take a look at http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB and search for the USB ID |
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| 22:30.59 | jan__ | hmmm..i can't find my ID |
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| 22:31.47 | anki | hey guys can someone help me out |
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| 22:32.46 | inwx | hey what's happing? |
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| 22:34.53 | babilen | jan__: lsusb should list it |
| 22:35.17 | babilen | anki: Sure, but we can't if you don't tell us about the problem you want to solve |
| 22:35.20 | jan__ | babilen: yes. I know it, but it's not in the list you show me |
| 22:35.23 | jan__ | :) |
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| 22:36.07 | anki | I need help to translate "this part its generated in kubuntu GRUB2 http://pastebin.com/6W4VaPaz (windows 7) and I need it in Grub1 format please help me out |
| 22:36.11 | jan__ | does some oen know, what the module 'v4l1_compat' does? |
| 22:37.37 | babilen | jan__: ah, ok ... you might want to list the output of lsusb and lsmod to a pastebin |
| 22:37.43 | babilen | and let the hivemind work :) |
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| 22:40.29 | jan__ | babilen: i now blacklisted 'v4l1_compat' |
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| 22:43.49 | jan__ | babilen: http://pastebin.com/2P0wM3FL |
| 22:45.54 | jan__ | i'll just reboot to test im webcam still is working |
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| 22:53.20 | babilen | jan: You want to blacklist "uvcvideo" and possible "videodev" -- you should also blacklist "pcspkr" (who needs that?) |
| 22:53.44 | babilen | s/possible/possibly |
| 22:56.27 | lmaowaffle | hi guys, i'm using squeeze. latest update shows removal of dhcp3-client (i think) but I was not paying attention. Now, i'm unable to get ip via dhcp for my network interfaces. I'm trying to dhcp3-client, but it appears ntp and ntpdate (which I have installed) will break the installation. Has anyone else come across this? |
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| 22:57.58 | jan | babilen: thanks |
| 22:58.12 | jan | babilen: i'll try it out now |
| 22:58.15 | themill | !dbugs 590210 |
| 22:58.19 | dpkg | #590210:C[ntp] ntp: ntp breaks dhcp3-client deinstalls dhcp in testing (); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:48:01 UTC [] |
| 22:58.24 | themill | lmaowaffle: next time you'll pay attention. |
| 22:59.57 | lmaowaffle | in any event, why would ntp be given higher priority than dhcp package? |
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| 23:00.59 | streuner | dpkg, depends dhcp3-client |
| 23:01.31 | lmaowaffle | what's that? |
| 23:01.46 | dpkg | dhcp3-client: depends on isc-dhcp-client |
| 23:02.05 | jan | hmmm...my webcam is still listet in 'powertop' as 100% idle |
| 23:02.06 | themill | lmaowaffle: you asked aptitude to do a full-upgrade which means you have asked it to prioritise upgrading existing packages and uninstalling other packages if necessary to do so. |
| 23:02.29 | lmaowaffle | well, aptitude safe-upgrade |
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| 23:06.18 | nsadmin | is there a later grub2 (which is supported by upstream as current lenny is not) in lenny backports? |
| 23:06.33 | lmaowaffle | I bought a new disk, and have created (via cp -ax) a duplicate of my root partition. my /boot partition will remain where it is currently, and so will my swap. I'm unable to generate a boot entry for grub2 (it was very simple with grub-legacy's menu.lst), despite changing UUID of root device both in grub.conf and /etc/fstab to suit the new partition |
| 23:07.03 | themill | dpkg: tell nsadmin about search |
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| 23:07.42 | lmaowaffle | i've also copied over /dev/console and /dev/null to the new partition |
| 23:08.24 | nsadmin | cp -ax doesn't copy those? |
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| 23:08.55 | lmaowaffle | for some reason, no |
| 23:09.03 | lmaowaffle | i had to explicitly copy each over |
| 23:09.03 | rolandpish | Hi, in my squeeze installation how can I downgrade a package? |
| 23:10.03 | lmaowaffle | but the boot up process fails as debian is unable to find the symlink in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 23:10.37 | lmaowaffle | if i label the new partition, and use LABEL=, boot up fails as it can't find the symlink in /dev/disk/by-label |
| 23:11.01 | nsadmin | maybe some form of... first mount the destination, to-be-/ somewhere like /mnt... then (cd / ; tar --one-file-system cp .) | (cd /mnt ; tar xp) |
| 23:11.25 | nsadmin | would copy more of the system stuff, if not all of it (to be done as root) |
| 23:11.49 | lmaowaffle | they'd both do the same thing, I think |
| 23:12.13 | lmaowaffle | i don't want stuff copied that's best left auto-generated |
| 23:12.25 | nsadmin | thinking what they would do and finding out what they do is two different things and has two different values |
| 23:12.52 | nsadmin | personally... I always use tar to copy partitions |
| 23:13.03 | lmaowaffle | does that fix my boot-up problem? |
| 23:13.12 | lmaowaffle | well, there are several ways really to copy it over |
| 23:13.22 | nsadmin | no idea, so far I haven't heard a boot problem |
| 23:13.36 | nsadmin | yes, you're right, several ways. |
| 23:14.14 | lmaowaffle | oh. i remember you. |
| 23:14.22 | nsadmin | I remember me too! |
| 23:14.29 | lmaowaffle | thanks for your non-assistance |
| 23:14.32 | lmaowaffle | as usual |
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| 23:15.40 | nsadmin | you'll be happy to know that not everyone has your opinion |
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| 23:17.00 | lmaowaffle | well, i'll be happiest if you're /ignored, and so it'll happen. |
| 23:17.46 | Arafangion | /ignore's lmaowaffle |
| 23:18.19 | nsadmin | lmaowaffle: so as long as you haven't verified that the copy missing some files is not the source of your issue, maybe you should concentrate there. or, you should try to get your system booted from the copied partition and see what's missing |
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| 23:19.22 | nsadmin | if you're stuck trying to boot from the standpoint of only giving yourself a single choice when more are available, it's little wonder you're stuck now |
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