| 00:00.05 | thewanderer1 | og01: yes. printk() prints to there |
| 00:01.14 | mryanbrown | so im running radvd |
| 00:01.22 | mryanbrown | and every reboot, /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding |
| 00:01.27 | mryanbrown | resets to 0 from 1 |
| 00:01.36 | mryanbrown | why would a file be overwritten at boot? |
| 00:01.46 | og01 | thewanderer1: I gotta get around to learning kernel debugging and dev at somepoint |
| 00:02.16 | thewanderer1 | mryanbrown: simple - because it is stored in volatile memory (DRAM) and re-generated at every boot |
| 00:02.30 | mryanbrown | ah hah! |
| 00:02.40 | thewanderer1 | !sysctl |
| 00:02.40 | dpkg | sysctl.conf is a method of setting sysctl values (such as those found in /proc/sys) early on in boot using sysctl(8). See man 5 sysctl.conf for details. |
| 00:02.41 | mryanbrown | that seems odd |
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| 00:03.17 | mryanbrown | so how do i make forwarding stick? |
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| 00:03.36 | thewanderer1 | mryanbrown: if you see your current mounts, you'll probably notice that there is some 'proc' mounted over /proc - it is a virtual filesystem, so it does not have an on-disk storage |
| 00:03.48 | thewanderer1 | mryanbrown: read that what dpkg said |
| 00:04.05 | mryanbrown | ahhh i like you |
| 00:04.12 | mryanbrown | such a polite way to say rtfm |
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| 00:04.53 | thewanderer1 | if you need to write a config, better do it well :P |
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| 00:08.07 | mryanbrown | sudo sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1 |
| 00:08.14 | mryanbrown | ive ran that, isnt it supposed to make it stick? |
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| 00:09.20 | thewanderer1 | mryanbrown: no, sysctl -w only writes a value to the corresponding file in /proc/sys - /etc/sysctl.conf uses that under the hood |
| 00:09.49 | mryanbrown | oh |
| 00:10.39 | mryanbrown | so i either need to recomp kernel or add it to an ip-up script? |
| 00:10.48 | mryanbrown | if-up* |
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| 00:11.04 | phorce1 | got woody installed --- no support for my NICs |
| 00:11.07 | phorce1 | <sigh> |
| 00:12.22 | DDRP | wtf, why are you installing Woody? |
| 00:12.27 | thewanderer1 | mryanbrown: no, you need to add it to /etc/sysctl.conf - have you read the manpage? :) also see the file, it's nicely commented |
| 00:12.56 | mryanbrown | i have the manpage open right now lol |
| 00:13.33 | mryanbrown | im following you now though |
| 00:13.35 | mryanbrown | i get it |
| 00:13.41 | phorce1 | DDRP: long story |
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| 00:13.45 | mryanbrown | ive never messed with sysctl, even in ddwrt |
| 00:14.18 | petemc | phorce1: have you tried just plugging the lan machines into the same switch as the cisco? |
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| 00:15.04 | mryanbrown | hmm |
| 00:15.08 | mryanbrown | # Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv6 |
| 00:15.08 | mryanbrown | net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1 |
| 00:15.13 | mryanbrown | thats my sysctl.conf |
| 00:15.16 | mryanbrown | its uncommented |
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| 00:15.19 | mryanbrown | lemme try a reboot again |
| 00:15.19 | cocoabat51 | hi |
| 00:15.23 | phorce1 | petemc: the cisco isn't plugged into a switch --- and it has a different IP than the LAN machines |
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| 00:15.37 | cocoabat51 | does apache2 on debian change normal working order for the handlers? |
| 00:15.41 | petemc | phorce1: the lan machines dont use the cisco ip as the gateway? |
| 00:16.07 | phorce1 | petemc: no, they use the router box as a gateway --- it uses the cisco as a gateway |
| 00:16.45 | petemc | you said you werent doing masquerading on the router box? |
| 00:17.25 | phorce1 | petemc: cisco provides a /30 to the router. I said I have no clue what the ipchains setup was doing that I need to duplicate with iptables <grin> |
| 00:17.42 | phorce1 | oops. left some extra n that line |
| 00:17.55 | phorce1 | petemc: `I said I have no clue what the ipchains setup was doing that I need to duplicate with iptables <grin> |
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| 00:22.38 | mryanbrown | thats effing weird!!! |
| 00:22.49 | mryanbrown | its uncommented in my sysctl.conf, yet its still set to 0 |
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| 00:24.14 | phorce1 | petemc: right now, right after booting, I can route and ping from the router box to the world. As soon as I start messing with IPTables, even putting ACCEPT ALL rules in --- I suddenly can't route any more |
| 00:24.20 | phorce1 | petemc: it's ugly |
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| 00:24.50 | lolufail | hi! |
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| 00:25.18 | lolufail | I have a exim4 question.. I got MAIN_RELAY_NETS=mydomain.dnydns.org : 127.0.0.1 : ::::1, and it works perfectly, I can use this server as relay for my home-machine under the dyndns adress. but how often is dns queried? will this stop working if I get a new ip? |
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| 00:28.11 | n1md4 | Evening. Is there a standard development tools package, I need to be able to run configure, make, make install. |
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| 00:28.37 | petemc | n1md4: build-essential |
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| 00:28.43 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 00:28.51 | n1md4 | Ah! Thanks. |
| 00:29.00 | johnfg | Well, I reinstalled squeeze so I could boot it. |
| 00:29.25 | johnfg | So now, I need to know how to make the entries so I can boot lenny. |
| 00:29.40 | thewanderer1 | mryanbrown: something is setting this to 0. shorewall? |
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| 00:30.40 | mryanbrown | im on a bare debian 5 standard install, + nds, postfix, radvd, pptp |
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| 00:33.38 | fas3r | hello |
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| 00:34.22 | User_007 | anyone knows libimoduledevices ? |
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| 00:34.49 | johnfg | Sorry, had to disconnect for a minute. |
| 00:36.13 | johnfg | I'm getting this error message from synaptic package manager: http://debian.pastebin.com/NBAxEK2j |
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| 00:36.55 | johnfg | Should I just run update-grub and see if it finds win xp pro and lenny? |
| 00:37.41 | moldovean | !os-prober |
| 00:37.41 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/os-prober Use this to construct an add-on to your grub.cfg grub2 for dual{,triple,...}-booting other OSes. |
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| 00:38.31 | fas3r | can i do : while [ `ps aux | grep 1111` == true ]; do .... done ? |
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| 00:39.29 | kermit | fas3r: does the 1111 represent a process ID? |
| 00:39.45 | kermit | fas3r: if so, a better test is kill -0 pid |
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| 00:40.07 | fas3r | kermit, yes or the name |
| 00:40.17 | johnfg | OK, that found win xp pro, but although it said it found Debian GNU/Linux (5.0.5) on /dev/sdb3, it configured it as squeeze! |
| 00:40.18 | kermit | fas3r: or by name, then killall -0 name |
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| 00:41.05 | johnfg | Any idea how I can fix: The package cache file is corrupted |
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| 00:41.58 | moldovean | johnfg, see #grub |
| 00:42.27 | johnfg | moldovean, OK, I'll ask. How about the synaptic error? |
| 00:42.44 | moldovean | dunno |
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| 00:43.50 | patriick | sup |
| 00:44.07 | patriick | i need help with partitioning two different drives on debian netinstall |
| 00:44.27 | patriick | can i still set up my second slave drive encrypted LVm |
| 00:44.33 | patriick | after installin to the master |
| 00:44.46 | fas3r | kermit, ok ... so can i do : while [ `kill -0 pid 1111` == true ]; do .... done ? :D |
| 00:44.52 | patriick | slave drive with encrpted lvm ** ^ |
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| 00:45.39 | kermit | fas3r: my pid, i meant the 1111 |
| 00:45.54 | mryanbrown | SON OF A |
| 00:46.00 | kermit | fas3r: and no; while kill -0 pid; do ...;done |
| 00:46.11 | fas3r | kermit, ok thank :D |
| 00:46.18 | og01 | hi a asked earlier how to hold a package from being installed even if its a prerequest of another package i want to install. i was directed to !hold. I issued: echo linux-image hold|dpkg --set-selections but when I try to install kvm (with apt-get install kvm) it still wants to install linux-image ... |
| 00:47.27 | og01 | how can i prevent linux-image from being installed with apt-get now and always? |
| 00:48.15 | fas3r | kermit, i'm on AIX so i will check if i can do kill -0 but thank :D |
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| 00:49.52 | DagFinn | Hey guys. #inspircd on chatspike redirected me here to get help with this. |
| 00:49.53 | DagFinn | [*] Unable to load m_ssl_gnutls.so: /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11: undefined symbol: gpg_err_code_from_syserror |
| 00:51.51 | moldovean | , versions linux-image |
| 00:51.52 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'linux-image' was found. |
| 00:51.57 | moldovean | og01, ^^ |
| 00:52.33 | moldovean | og01, use a valid package name |
| 00:52.40 | og01 | linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 ? |
| 00:53.00 | og01 | , versions linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 00:53.01 | moldovean | that's too old use newer |
| 00:53.02 | judd | linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 -- lenny-security: 2.6.26-13lenny2 |
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| 00:53.43 | og01 | moldovean: when i try to install kvm it says Recommended packages: linux-image |
| 00:54.12 | og01 | then the following packages will be installed: linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 00:54.28 | og01 | it does mention other packages, but this is the one i must prevent |
| 00:54.50 | thepro4ever | i am getting the error message invalid command on line 4 in my shell script, in my script on line 4 i have destDir= "" any ideas? |
| 00:54.52 | petemc | og01: try aptitude -R install kvm |
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| 00:55.08 | borman | Hi my monitor is turning off every 10 minutes but I have no idea where this parameter is controlled |
| 00:55.24 | og01 | petemc: what if another package i later decide to install requires/recommends linux-image? |
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| 00:55.44 | og01 | petemc: although that might be a good short term solution |
| 00:55.50 | petemc | og01: you can use eqivs to tell the packaging system you have linux-image |
| 00:56.09 | petemc | equivs |
| 00:56.28 | og01 | petemc: that sounds more like it! can you tell me how? or simply what i should google for :) |
| 00:56.37 | og01 | petemc: is this a dpkg config? |
| 00:56.45 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.32 | og01 | petemc: thanks i shall read |
| 00:57.37 | moldovean | og01, run aptitude update , and use aptitude to install things , |
| 00:58.03 | moldovean | , kernels |
| 00:58.05 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.35-trunk-686 (2.6.35-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-21); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-20); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-20~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-24lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 00:58.17 | og01 | moldovean: i cannot install these kernels |
| 00:58.22 | moldovean | ? |
| 00:58.44 | og01 | i cannot install these precompiled kernels |
| 00:58.53 | moldovean | og01, why ? |
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| 00:59.57 | moldovean | your kernel is old and have security issues install linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 |
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| 01:00.08 | moldovean | og01, ^^ |
| 01:00.27 | og01 | moldovean: i am using a server from ovh, i am using their custom crafted debian install, which comes with their own compiled kernel, if i try to install the offical debian kernel the system wont boot |
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| 01:00.46 | moldovean | hehe |
| 01:00.53 | moldovean | good one |
| 01:01.04 | borman | I mean, which is the mechanism for controlling saving energy options in debian by default? |
| 01:01.06 | ShapeShifter499 | I keep getting this error--> The following packages have unmet dependencies: com.rstoeber.googlevoice.913f9d81260fd6f3f98fe8a907686cd092f1c90d.1: PreDepends: adobeair (>= 1.5.2.0) but it is not installable E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. |
| 01:01.09 | User_007 | Guys, i have installed libimobiledevices with Squeeze, and i have a 2.30 rhytmbox, but i don't know why, rhytmbox don't recognize my ipod touch 8GB |
| 01:01.23 | ShapeShifter499 | I have installed adobe air so whats the problem?? |
| 01:01.31 | moldovean | og01, good luck ! |
| 01:01.40 | og01 | moldovean: I will investigate further at another time i think, but it seems that the initrd isnt mounting the raid array is it is done in offical - but i am very uncertain - i do not have kvm access |
| 01:02.07 | moldovean | og01, ask #grub then |
| 01:03.14 | og01 | moldovean: i have their .config so can compile my own kernels and upgrade manualy to later versions... moldovean i've been at this for ages now - i will investigate further, but tongiht if i can get the system running by tricking dpgk into thinking that linux-kernel is already installed 0 then damnit that'll do me! |
| 01:04.56 | moldovean | og01, installing a kernel don't change the kernel used , isn't it ? |
| 01:05.56 | og01 | yeah i know, but for some reason - oh wait |
| 01:06.02 | og01 | im obviously very tired |
| 01:06.06 | stew | og01: if you don't want dpkg installing kernels, just remove all the linux-image packages you currently have installed |
| 01:06.28 | og01 | stew: its a recommended package of a package i want to install |
| 01:06.59 | og01 | but moldovean has a good point, things were breaking before because my kernel doesnt have module loading support - i've now compiled that in |
| 01:07.00 | stew | og01: aptitude install --without-recommends packagename |
| 01:07.05 | og01 | and i can safely install kvm |
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| 01:07.52 | og01 | stew: yeah i was aware of that but i was thinking i wanted to save myself the pain nextime i tried to install a package that recomends linux-image |
| 01:08.01 | og01 | stew: but its ok i was being stupid |
| 01:08.14 | thepro4ever | why can i not use a script argument inside function scope, for instance i'm trying to echo out $2 inside of a function and it doesn't work |
| 01:08.14 | og01 | thanks moldovean i think |
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| 01:12.23 | Tramp | thepro4ever: because functions get their own set of positional parameters |
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| 01:13.13 | DagFinn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.18 | DagFinn | Does anyone know what I can do to fix that? |
| 01:13.20 | thepro4ever | Tramp: how can i include the $2 argument in the function scope? |
| 01:14.20 | Tramp | pass it to the function as argument |
| 01:14.39 | Tramp | func "$2", then, in the function, use "$1" |
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| 01:17.30 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 01:17.43 | lenswipe | anyone know if there is an app in the repos for POS systems? |
| 01:17.50 | lenswipe | to turn a linux box into a POS |
| 01:18.27 | KB1JWQ | http://www.roseindia.net/opensource/open-source-point-of-sale.shtml |
| 01:18.37 | lenswipe | is that in the repos? |
| 01:18.43 | thepro4ever | Tramp: when I invoke the function i do "setDestDir($2)" ?? |
| 01:18.54 | KB1JWQ | lenswipe: There's a list of 30. |
| 01:19.21 | thepro4ever | hmm nvm i think i get it |
| 01:19.23 | Tramp | thepro4ever: where did I say that? I said: func "$2" |
| 01:19.30 | lenswipe | thanks |
| 01:19.38 | Tramp | not: func($2) |
| 01:20.23 | thepro4ever | Tramp: what you said makes perfect sense, i had to see a visual example to get the full picture, http://steve-parker.org/sh/functions.shtml |
| 01:20.49 | Tramp | thepro4ever: you may want to check the ressources in the /topic of #bash |
| 01:22.28 | Tramp | the link you gave, like most on the web, shows lots of bad examples. |
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| 01:23.33 | Tramp | mostly having to do with the lack of quoting and the use of deprecated syntax |
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| 01:25.29 | thepro4ever | Tramp: can functions return values? |
| 01:27.44 | Tramp | the return value of a function is the return value of the last command that was executed |
| 01:28.58 | thepro4ever | Tramp: i'm trying to set a variable that is global to the output of the last command in my function |
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| 01:29.18 | Tramp | var=$(command) - as everywhere else |
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| 01:30.33 | Tramp | or, outside the function, var=$(f ...), as with any other command |
| 01:31.08 | Tramp | if that's what you meant. ofc, that's what's written to stdout. For the return value/exit code, use $? |
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| 01:31.38 | Tramp | and, in case I have not mentioned it, check the ressources in the /topic of #bash. There is a beginner's guide as well |
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| 01:42.16 | thepro4ever | Tramp: i somehow broke it with my last change http://codepad.org/IsyqfXwt line 15 is the bracket at the bottom, i'm trying to figure it out |
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| 01:44.31 | DagFinn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.34 | Tramp | thepro4ever: really, read the Guide first. |
| 01:44.37 | DagFinn | Can anyone help me figure that out? |
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| 01:46.19 | moldovean | DagFinn, see #C |
| 01:46.22 | sweetpi | thepro4ever: line 8 is the problem... get rid of the trailing backslash and wrap the commands with with $().. and what Tramp said |
| 01:46.38 | DagFinn | moldovean: You can't get into #C unless you're invited |
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| 01:48.49 | Tramp | DagFinn: pastebin the output of ldd /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 |
| 01:48.51 | phorce1 | is packet forwarding compiled by default into the lenny kernel such that echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward should "just work"? |
| 01:49.15 | thepro4ever | Tramp: i'm reading a guide but failing lol |
| 01:49.31 | DagFinn | Tramp: http://pastebin.com/DATXxAnh |
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| 01:50.14 | phorce1 | petemc: it appears to be a packet forwarding issue. Nothing to do with iptables. Routing to/from the oruter box works fine until I enable ip_forward, then it falls on its face |
| 01:50.47 | Tramp | DagFinn: /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 <-- that should be in /usr/lib, so it's probably something you installed and it's probably broken |
| 01:51.02 | DagFinn | How would I remove that? |
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| 01:51.35 | Tramp | why is it there? |
| 01:51.53 | DagFinn | I don't know why it would be there. |
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| 01:52.10 | DagFinn | apt-get install libgcrypt-dev libgcrypt11-dev libgcrypt11 libgcrypt11-dbg libgcrypt11-doc |
| 01:52.14 | DagFinn | That's what I ran |
| 01:52.21 | Tramp | hmm. |
| 01:52.41 | Tramp | DagFinn: mv it away, then check, if it finds the right one |
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| 01:53.04 | thepro4ever | sweetpi: i removed the trailing slash and that fixed it, what do you mean by wrap the commands in $() ? |
| 01:53.15 | DagFinn | I07S15:/usr/local/lib# ls |
| 01:53.16 | DagFinn | libgpg-error.a libgpg-error.so libgpg-error.so.0.1.3 site_ruby |
| 01:53.16 | DagFinn | libgpg-error.la libgpg-error.so.0 ocaml |
| 01:53.21 | DagFinn | Tramp, should I move all of those? |
| 01:53.36 | DagFinn | When I say all I mean the libgpg ones ;) |
| 01:53.41 | Tramp | DagFinn: I mean the /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 |
| 01:53.52 | DagFinn | Got it |
| 01:54.37 | DagFinn | Tramp: Amazingly that worked :S |
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| 01:54.53 | Tramp | DagFinn: ah, those in the ls - yes, I would mv them all away |
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| 01:55.05 | DagFinn | Yeah |
| 01:55.27 | Tramp | apart from the site_ruby, which is something else and may belong there |
| 01:55.35 | DagFinn | and the ocaml |
| 01:55.38 | Tramp | and this ocml |
| 01:55.40 | Tramp | yes |
| 01:55.54 | User_007 | does anyonke knows about iOS4 incompatibility with libimobiledevice that don't open for sync? |
| 01:56.23 | Tramp | DagFinn: yw |
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| 01:58.29 | Raptors | Anyone here has exp with gnome network manager? |
| 01:58.42 | Raptors | and DHCP |
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| 01:59.32 | Raptors | I tried to use dhclient too both dont work. At the most I'm getting internet for like a couple sec then it stops working :\ |
| 01:59.52 | Raptors | It's getting the IP and I can ping the router. |
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| 02:01.53 | sweetpi | thepro4ever: its called command substitution: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/commandsub.html#CSPARENS really you should read a guide, this is totally off-topic. |
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| 02:03.41 | Tramp | no. don't refer to the abs. It's not a good beginner's ressource |
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| 02:07.00 | mryanbrown | trying to get ipv6 forwarding working @ startup. /etc/sysctl.conf has ipv6 forwarding uncommented and enabled. yet on reboot /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding reads 0 instead of 1. I've read some oooolder posts on it saying that the procps(?) is loading before sysctl.conf is read so it's disabling it before it can be read to enable it. any ideas? |
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| 02:13.47 | KB1JWQ | mryanbrown: http://madduck.net/docs/ipv6/ |
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| 02:16.18 | mryanbrown | thanks reading now |
| 02:16.29 | fas3r | i try to write a script to receive an email when a backup is finish, but i dont understand my error, if somebody can check please http://pastebin.com/4LPMsxKJ . it's short i mean 15 line. |
| 02:18.07 | moldovean | why !/bin/ksh ? |
| 02:18.21 | moldovean | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:23.42 | fas3r | moldovean, yes :D |
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| 02:23.54 | fas3r | but its the same |
| 02:24.14 | moldovean | fas3r, remove lines 1 to 6 . they are doubled |
| 02:24.52 | fas3r | moldovean, yes yes i knoz sorry |
| 02:25.03 | fas3r | error during the copy paste ^^ |
| 02:25.31 | jhutchins_lt | I've noticed that email from cronjobs seems to be unreliable. |
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| 02:26.04 | fas3r | in fact i receive the mail but i guess my error come from the second if |
| 02:26.06 | kermit | fas3r: try #ksh .. i dont think many people here use ksh |
| 02:26.16 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 02:26.21 | fas3r | kermit, its the same |
| 02:26.27 | lenswipe | anyone know if its possible to make a user's home dir so that nothing can be exeecuted? |
| 02:26.38 | Tramp | if $FLAGTEST = true; then - I doubt that this is remotely correct syntax for any *sh |
| 02:26.38 | fas3r | i mean i can replace by sh or bash it will be the same |
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| 02:26.59 | Tramp | fas3r: you have grave syntactical errors |
| 02:27.03 | fas3r | Tramp, |
| 02:27.04 | fas3r | haaa |
| 02:27.10 | fas3r | i need to use [] |
| 02:27.11 | fas3r | no ? |
| 02:27.15 | Tramp | you may want to check the Guide in the /topic of #bash |
| 02:29.20 | Tramp | $FLAGTEST = 'false' - that assignment has 2 errors |
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| 02:37.31 | fas3r | Tramp, ok i need to use [[ $FLAGTEST = "true" ]] |
| 02:37.57 | Tramp | looks good, if ksh has [[ |
| 02:38.13 | fas3r | Tramp, yes i just check its [[]] |
| 02:38.23 | fas3r | sorry at work .. and its late ^^ |
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| 02:56.06 | fas3r | Tramp, ok i stop |
| 02:56.14 | fas3r | i think its not the best way |
| 02:56.37 | fas3r | because if the grep dont return true well he never go to the second if ... |
| 02:56.52 | fas3r | so i dont know which way i need to use |
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| 03:18.05 | martianlobster | if I add a new file in /etc/ld.so.conf., what do I need to run to get /etc/profile updated? |
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| 03:41.49 | Rusty1 | lsusb |
| 03:42.14 | imaginaryman | Thank you |
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| 03:55.59 | Wooga | hello, anyone know how to decompress linux kernel image (zImage)? |
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| 04:05.30 | JairunCaloth | I think it's just gzipped |
| 04:05.34 | JairunCaloth | hence zImage |
| 04:06.09 | Wooga | JairunCaloth: `gzip -d -S "" zImage` is not working, gzip complaining that it is not a gzip file |
| 04:06.24 | JairunCaloth | I dunoo then |
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| 04:10.39 | Tramp | Wooga: http://www.woodmann.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-7647.html - brought to you by the magic of Google |
| 04:11.18 | Wooga | Tramp: thanks! |
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| 04:14.07 | JairunCaloth | ah I was close :-p |
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| 04:27.08 | dz2 | I just increased my physical memory to 4GB but top only shows that I have 3368720k. What gives? |
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| 04:29.28 | Tramp | !tell dz2 -about bigmem |
| 04:33.16 | rody | hello....Im trying to configure another wireless router. Im currently have a wire lan set up, I just want to add the other router as Access point. I read that in order to do that I have to set both routers at the same ip mask. But the wireless router seems to have the wiredlan and the wireless lan splited |
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| 04:33.38 | rody | and I cant change the wireless lan ip settings |
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| 04:38.25 | dz2 | rody dont use the internet port on the router router |
| 04:38.51 | dz2 | that will cause you to create another network |
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| 04:39.41 | dz2 | dont use the internet port on the new wrieless router I mean |
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| 04:51.03 | newsense | what's the correct way to remove a purged kernel from grub2 menu ? |
| 04:51.28 | newsense | never had this problem before |
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| 04:59.46 | Kev1 | Hi everybody, when I insert an audio cd it says it is blank, the cd is not scratched, i tried a few |
| 05:02.08 | zinx | audio CDs have no data tracks, generally |
| 05:02.42 | zinx | if you want to play them, you will need an application specificly designed to play CDs |
| 05:03.04 | Kev1 | rhythmbox doesn't recognize it |
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| 05:03.51 | Kev1 | but it did with other cdrom driver |
| 05:03.59 | Kev1 | *drive |
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| 05:19.35 | yugiohjcj | hello, Debian lenny cleans automatically the /tmp directory at startup. I don't want it does that. On google people speak about a init script in /etc/init.d/ called "bootsclean.sh" but I don't have it. How to don't clean the /tmp directory at startup? |
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| 05:26.31 | pallgone | yugiohjcj: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-removes-files-at-boot-time/ |
| 05:28.49 | yugiohjcj | pallgone, thank you ;-) |
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| 05:29.29 | pallgone | np |
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| 05:35.07 | Kev1 | I changed my dvd drive and now I can't read audio cds |
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| 05:36.28 | pallgone | is the cd getting mounted? |
| 05:36.59 | Kev1 | it says it is blank |
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| 05:42.16 | pallgone | and the drive is able to read them? |
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| 05:42.40 | Kev1 | no |
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| 05:43.04 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 05:43.06 | Kev1 | just open cd creator folder |
| 05:43.32 | pallgone | I mean... would be? has the drive worked somewhere else? maybe it's broken? |
| 05:44.01 | Kev1 | it reads data cds and dvds |
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| 05:44.30 | Kev1 | and reads music on windows os |
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| 05:47.19 | ShapeShifter499 | I'm using adobe air and this particular app --> http://rstoeber.com/apps/Google_Voice_Utility.html how ever I believe it needs the linux google voice plugin, I have that plugin installed but its 64 bit and adobe air uses a separate dir of plugins and uses only 32 bit(since its 32 bit) so I've downloaded the 32 bit... the 64 bit installed to /opt/google so I think that the 32 bit one will, so what do I do?? |
| 05:47.51 | pallgone | Kev1: open a terminal, type "dmesg | less +F", put the cd in and see what it tells you there |
| 05:48.20 | Kev1 | ok |
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| 05:49.15 | Kev1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:50.18 | Kev1 | ide: failed opcode was: unknown |
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| 05:53.43 | pallgone | Kev1: grep cdrom /etc/fstab |
| 05:54.27 | Kev1 | /dev/hdb/media/cdromiso9660,udfuser,noauto10 |
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| 05:56.10 | pallgone | Kev1: do you know how to mount manually? |
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| 05:56.43 | Kev1 | mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt |
| 05:56.58 | Kev1 | but It can't mount a music cd |
| 05:57.07 | pallgone | have tried as root? |
| 05:57.19 | Kev1 | I am root |
| 05:57.28 | Kev1 | yes |
| 05:58.13 | Kev1 | it says wrong fs type |
| 05:58.30 | pallgone | leave the -t away? |
| 05:59.13 | Kev1 | you must specify the fs type |
| 06:00.27 | pallgone | Kev1: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=37350 |
| 06:00.44 | Kev1 | thanks pallgone |
| 06:01.03 | pallgone | Kev1: it's no solution... I don't think there is one, maybe you could try a newer kernel |
| 06:01.21 | Kev1 | ok, thanks anyway ;) |
| 06:01.34 | pallgone | Kev1: you're using lenny? |
| 06:01.35 | Kev1 | maybe it is a hardware problem |
| 06:01.42 | Kev1 | yes |
| 06:02.03 | Kev1 | I didn't have problems with my other cd drive |
| 06:02.09 | pallgone | you could try a recent kernel from backports... |
| 06:02.19 | Kev1 | ok, i will ;) |
| 06:02.34 | Kev1 | you are the best pallgone ;) |
| 06:02.49 | pallgone | not really, but thanks anyway :) |
| 06:02.52 | Kev1 | I'll see what i can do |
| 06:02.58 | Kev1 | hehehe |
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| 06:05.22 | ShapeShifter499 | ahhhhh! my system is locking up too much and I'm forced to hard reboot please help |
| 06:06.38 | ShapeShifter499 | it happens after a while of using the system |
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| 06:07.12 | pallgone | what DE? |
| 06:07.26 | ShapeShifter499 | DE? |
| 06:07.37 | pallgone | gnome? kde? etc? |
| 06:07.51 | ShapeShifter499 | gdm3 |
| 06:08.07 | ShapeShifter499 | gnome |
| 06:08.15 | pallgone | squeeze? |
| 06:08.19 | ShapeShifter499 | yes |
| 06:09.27 | Felix00 | hi all |
| 06:09.46 | Felix00 | i built a beowulf cluster of 4 pcs but i dunno how to use it correctly |
| 06:10.02 | Felix00 | all i have to do is launch lamboot? and then, what to launch a program in multiple pcs? |
| 06:10.10 | Felix00 | lamboot -d seems to show that it closes before awaiting a new command |
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| 06:11.44 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, I'm scared of loosing data(even though none has been lost yet) |
| 06:13.54 | pallgone | ShapeShifter499: hmm, well, it's quite unlikely to happen (compared to windows), but what you can do is search the logs, dmesg, try console only, another window manager etc. |
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| 06:16.33 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, well its vary annoying D= |
| 06:16.48 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, logs and stuff aren't helping |
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| 06:17.02 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, could a kernel cause a problem? |
| 06:17.18 | pallgone | ShapeShifter499: yes, thank the selfish industry for all hardware mess etc. |
| 06:17.54 | pallgone | ShapeShifter499: or try running a live cd of lenny or ubuntu or something to see if it happens there too |
| 06:17.55 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, could even bad video driver mess my system up? |
| 06:18.25 | pallgone | sure, video can always be reason for something like that |
| 06:18.31 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, well on ubuntu before I switched to debian my system worked fine |
| 06:18.48 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, except for sound issues |
| 06:18.57 | pallgone | ShapeShifter499: dmesg | grep firmware |
| 06:19.48 | pallgone | anything? |
| 06:19.57 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, nope |
| 06:20.27 | pallgone | lspci | grep VGA |
| 06:20.48 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200] |
| 06:21.08 | ShapeShifter499 | I have the latest fglrx drivers from the repos installed |
| 06:21.09 | Psi-Jack- | Working with a .dsc file, how do I update the sha crc's used in the dsc file, so I can attempt to version bump up? |
| 06:21.48 | pallgone | ShapeShifter499: you could try vesa mode to rule out the gfx driver... create an xorg and load vesa as driver |
| 06:24.46 | pallgone | *xorg.conf (or edit it) |
| 06:24.50 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, I'm going to say its the kernel(or maybe the kernel + video drivers) messing me up |
| 06:25.06 | pallgone | do you have xorg.conf? |
| 06:25.11 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, this didn't happen till I started using 2.6.35 |
| 06:25.44 | pallgone | so downgrade the kernel? |
| 06:25.53 | pallgone | and file a bug report... |
| 06:26.03 | wooden | what's the best place to look for hardware compatibility for debian? i'm building a new gaming pc and would really like to have proper ACPI S3 suspend support. |
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| 06:26.46 | pallgone | ShapeShifter499: do you still have the old kernel installed? |
| 06:27.28 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, yes |
| 06:27.42 | ShapeShifter499 | oh and the pastebin of my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/Chm5H6U2 |
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| 06:28.57 | pallgone | ShapeShifter499: then just boot from the old one... you can edit /etc/default/grub to let grub always choose that one |
| 06:29.49 | pallgone | ShapeShifter499: maybe try Driver "vesa" in xorg.conf to see if the problem goes away too with the new kernel |
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| 06:29.58 | z1y | hello. I am using Debian Lenny on an Amazon EC2 instance. I want to build 'fuse' module, but using 'm-a a-i fuse -t' reports that "cannot find the package 'fuse-source'" |
| 06:30.03 | z1y | any idea? |
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| 06:31.15 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, ok do you know anything about the opensource drivers for ATI cards? someone told me I had to have the 2.6.35 kernel to use the latest opensource ati drivers so I updated and was going to switch to the opensource drivers in a while |
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| 06:34.56 | pallgone | ShapeShifter499: http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 06:37.16 | ShapeShifter499 | ok I didn't see that website |
| 06:37.18 | ShapeShifter499 | thanks |
| 06:40.04 | pallgone | hmm, I'm just wondering why web search does tend to bring up the wiki so little... I think it is because the wiki pages are missing links to debian.org which would rank it higher |
| 06:40.56 | pallgone | and debian.org should linke to the wiki on the frontpage |
| 06:41.00 | pallgone | *link |
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| 06:42.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | can somebody help me with cron syntax? my jobs arn't starting I looked it up on the web and it looks ok to me.. |
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| 06:43.58 | ShapeShifter499 | pallgone, I'm too tired right now I'll tackle this later thanks for the help |
| 06:44.02 | ShapeShifter499 | bye all |
| 06:44.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://ww.pastebin.com/njcTqTuf |
| 06:45.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://www.pastebin.com/njcTqTuf |
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| 06:47.39 | Wooga | hello, is there any way to run deboostrap for different architecture, arm for example? |
| 06:47.45 | Wooga | i tried to, but it failed with W: Failure trying to run: chroot /home/soft/zaurus/mew/eabi_system/debian/. mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 06:52.25 | tehrabbitt | had a quick question... does anyone here know how to install lets say windows XP as a virtual machine within linux? |
| 06:52.39 | KB1JWQ | tehrabbitt: Sure. Xen can do it, Qumu and KVM can in theory. |
| 06:52.47 | tehrabbitt | I can do it in Xen? :-D |
| 06:53.50 | tehrabbitt | KB1JWQ: How do I set Xen up though so it installs windows from an ISO or mounted CD? |
| 06:54.33 | KB1JWQ | tehrabbitt: That's a question best answered through google. |
| 06:54.43 | tehrabbitt | Aight :-D |
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| 06:55.56 | tehrabbitt | installs XEN :-D |
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| 06:58.20 | pallgone | http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
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| 07:14.22 | kmonk | hihi |
| 07:14.34 | kmonk | how's everybody doing |
| 07:16.11 | fxiny | drills a hole in the floor and steals kmonk wallet |
| 07:16.54 | kmonk | sneaky; |
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| 07:17.15 | tehrabbitt-1 | any reason why APT can't find xen-ioemu? |
| 07:17.55 | tehrabbitt-1 | it's like, not a package 0_o |
| 07:18.16 | tehrabbitt-1 | i'm on testing if that helps |
| 07:18.21 | EmleyMoor | tehrabbitt-1: It is, like, not a package... at least in the standard stuff |
| 07:18.40 | kmonk | im also on testing, and it's definately not a package |
| 07:18.44 | tehrabbitt-1 | EmleyMoor: everything i'm reading is saying to apt-get install xen-ioemu |
| 07:18.46 | EmleyMoor | What is it you are looking for? |
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| 07:18.58 | tehrabbitt-1 | apt-get install xen-ioemu-3.0.3-1 |
| 07:19.11 | tehrabbitt-1 | http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-install-windows-xp-vista-on-xen/ |
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| 07:19.49 | EmleyMoor | That is quite old - for etch! |
| 07:20.42 | tehrabbitt-1 | lol :-\ can't find anything more recent |
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| 07:21.59 | EmleyMoor | http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#XenonTesting.2BAC8-SqueezeandonUnstable.2BAC8-Sid |
| 07:23.02 | kmonk | nice1 *bookmark* |
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| 07:41.58 | luser | lucid lynx is killing me |
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| 07:43.22 | cahoot | at least you extend the allitteration |
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| 07:49.00 | CrazyFoam | installing postfix with spamassassin for a site... should i use spampd or amavisd-new with before-queue? (i don't care about virus scan in amavisd, but spampd seems dead upstream) |
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| 07:58.50 | anddam | hello |
| 07:59.21 | anddam | what's the preferred way to periodically run a script? |
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| 08:00.16 | pallgone | !cron |
| 08:00.16 | dpkg | it has been said that cron is a daemon allowing programs to be run at predefined intervals as specific users. To read how to specify a job to run "man 5 crontab". To see your crontab "crontab -l". To edit it "crontab -e". System wide crontabs are /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.d, and /etc/cron.* are directories have run-parts called on them from /etc/crontab. Also ask me about <crontab>, <cron tutorial> and <run-parts>.. |
| 08:00.19 | CrazyFoam | anddam, cron? |
| 08:02.48 | kmonk | CrazyFoam: Spamassasin looks alive and kicking to me? |
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| 08:03.47 | CrazyFoam | kmonk, yeah spamassassin is great, but to integrate it into postfix as before-queue delivery you have to use some other software 'spampd' or 'amavisd-new' are the most viable ones i can think of |
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| 08:04.32 | CrazyFoam | not sure if i should mess with amavisd at all since i don't care about antivirus, maybe stick with spampd even though upstream is dead |
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| 08:05.07 | reklipz | I'm currently installing debian via serial port. is it possible to switch terminals with this method? (e.g. alt+f2?) |
| 08:05.21 | reklipz | I can't figure out how to send the meta key (alt) via minicom |
| 08:06.32 | CrazyFoam | reklipz, i think there's only one getty process per ttySX, no console switching |
| 08:06.37 | CrazyFoam | use screen? |
| 08:06.47 | reklipz | This is during the debian installer, though |
| 08:06.55 | reklipz | I can't get to a shell to _start_ screen |
| 08:07.12 | CrazyFoam | expert install has a shell menu item doesn't it? |
| 08:07.37 | anddam | reklipz: if you're in installer why do you want to send meta? |
| 08:07.46 | reklipz | to switch to a shell... |
| 08:07.48 | reklipz | to run commands |
| 08:08.06 | reklipz | the fact that i'm on an arm platform complicates things even more. |
| 08:08.19 | reklipz | s/arm/installing on an arm/ |
| 08:08.26 | reklipz | gah, you know what I mean |
| 08:08.35 | anddam | I do |
| 08:08.42 | CrazyFoam | cool, what's the device? |
| 08:08.56 | reklipz | it's a beagleboard that I bought a while ago and let sit for waaay to long |
| 08:09.28 | reklipz | I would have used the video installer, but for some reason my monitor doesn't like the video mode over hdmi |
| 08:09.52 | reklipz | which makes sense, though. it's not really an hdmi signal, and hdmi only supports so many formats |
| 08:10.34 | reklipz | (they use an hdmi port because it's physically smaller than a dvi port, but electrically the same, they should switch to a mini dvi or something, but those are difficult to find adapters for) |
| 08:11.30 | reklipz | wait, I wonder what happens if I plug in a keyboard to the device... |
| 08:11.47 | reklipz | ah crap... |
| 08:11.48 | CrazyFoam | haha type blind |
| 08:11.52 | reklipz | lets hope that works |
| 08:11.58 | reklipz | the serial port should display the goods... |
| 08:12.30 | CrazyFoam | i'm pretty sure d-i has a shell option on the menu, at least under expert install |
| 08:13.03 | reklipz | i recall seeing one as well, but I don't want to pause the download/install |
| 08:13.11 | reklipz | and I don't think I can without restarting it |
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| 08:14.49 | tehrabbitt-1 | im back :-\... apparently i really screwed thigns up with xen |
| 08:15.04 | tehrabbitt-1 | now GRUB has like 15 kernels to choose from |
| 08:15.17 | tehrabbitt-1 | and I can't figure out how to remove all the traces of XEN |
| 08:15.51 | CrazyFoam | 15 kernels? |
| 08:15.59 | tehrabbitt-1 | well all of them look similar |
| 08:16.01 | Raptors | Can you guys recommend me a good cheap video input card that works under linux |
| 08:16.07 | tehrabbitt-1 | each one has a "safe boot" and other various options |
| 08:16.20 | tehrabbitt-1 | but there's like 3 different AMD64's and some 386's and 686's |
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| 08:16.21 | tehrabbitt-1 | etc |
| 08:16.39 | CrazyFoam | apt-get purge xen-hypervisor-4.0-amd64 xen-linux-system-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 should suffice |
| 08:16.49 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: and is XEN working? |
| 08:16.54 | reklipz | "video input cards"? Ca you be more specific? |
| 08:16.56 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: no it's not :-\ |
| 08:17.14 | tehrabbitt-1 | apt-get purge xen-hypervisor-4.0-amd64 xen-linux-system-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 |
| 08:17.24 | Felix00 | is it safe to use -bigmem kernel? my p4 with 4gb of RAM sometimes reboots with it |
| 08:17.30 | tehrabbitt-1 | Package xen-hypervisor-4.0-amd64 is not installed, so not removed |
| 08:17.30 | tehrabbitt-1 | Package xen-linux-system-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 is not installed, so not removed |
| 08:17.49 | reklipz | Continue without installing a kernel? : <yes> -- yay! |
| 08:17.52 | CrazyFoam | tehrabbitt-1, using squeeze/sid or lenny? |
| 08:17.59 | tehrabbitt-1 | squeeze |
| 08:18.16 | pallgone | hmm, so the kernel is missing? |
| 08:18.18 | tehrabbitt-1 | I originally accidently was following a tutorial for etch |
| 08:18.31 | tehrabbitt-1 | which screwed me up |
| 08:18.54 | tehrabbitt-1 | (it's been a while since i messed with xen) |
| 08:19.52 | CrazyFoam | i just started messing with xen yesterday, so far i'm liking it a lot better than any other vm system |
| 08:20.32 | tehrabbitt-1 | CrazyFoam: Yea, i liked it back when I had an etch machine running 5 VMs sadly I haven't messed with it in like 3 years though |
| 08:20.58 | Felix00 | hello? |
| 08:21.07 | reklipz | hi! |
| 08:21.10 | pallgone | how is this working? i've never tried Xen... if I install it on squeeze will my base system run as a VM? |
| 08:21.21 | Felix00 | is it safe to use -bigmem kernel? my p4 with 4gb of RAM sometimes reboots with it |
| 08:21.22 | Felix00 | and |
| 08:21.33 | Felix00 | how properly to use a cluster??? |
| 08:21.44 | Felix00 | i build a beowulf with mpich |
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| 08:21.52 | Felix00 | but dunno what to do next |
| 08:21.54 | reklipz | mpich, ewww |
| 08:21.56 | Felix00 | after lamboot |
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| 08:22.15 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: Kind of.... |
| 08:22.39 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: basically it runs "above" the kernel so that each VM has hardware level access |
| 08:23.00 | reklipz | dom0 xen needs to be a "modified" linux kernel |
| 08:23.07 | reklipz | in order to work with the hypervisor |
| 08:23.15 | tehrabbitt-1 | yep |
| 08:23.18 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: and I can then create additional VMs and boot the from the console or something? |
| 08:23.28 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: Exactly :-D |
| 08:23.33 | reklipz | Felix00: i don't think you need bigmem for 4GB of RAM |
| 08:23.39 | Felix00 | someone could answer me? |
| 08:23.50 | pallgone | hmm... I'm tempted to try it... :) |
| 08:23.54 | CrazyFoam | pallgone, i believe if you had a desktop system or whatever and you installed xen, booted the hypervisor kernel flavor, dom0 would behave just like your setup had before |
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| 08:24.14 | tehrabbitt-1 | CrazyFoam: Correct, dom0 will seem "unchanged" it's rather transparent |
| 08:24.15 | CrazyFoam | but i'm not 100% sure since i'm working on a server with no X |
| 08:24.16 | Felix00 | reklipz: i do, since my video card "eats" 1'2 gb |
| 08:24.33 | reklipz | Felix00: Ah. Remove the video card? :P |
| 08:24.45 | tehrabbitt-1 | unfortunatally i screwed up GRUB though by installing the wrong versions of the kernel using apt lol |
| 08:25.07 | reklipz | tehrabbitt-1: # update-grub |
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| 08:25.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | hm how does that work though? won't it still pull the kernels that are installed? 0_o |
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| 08:25.44 | Felix00 | -bigmem would be stable in lenny? |
| 08:25.53 | reklipz | tehrabbitt-1: yes, it will still find them, likely, but you said you didn't have them |
| 08:26.02 | reklipz | Felix00: I have no idea. Try it? |
| 08:26.06 | tehrabbitt-1 | http://pastebin.com/cVj0pebF |
| 08:26.10 | tehrabbitt-1 | thats the result 0_o |
| 08:26.18 | tehrabbitt-1 | i don't have them yet they're there... |
| 08:26.19 | tehrabbitt-1 | lol |
| 08:26.31 | tehrabbitt-1 | so either APT is broken, or theres still a package i'm missing |
| 08:26.35 | reklipz | reinstall and remove |
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| 08:26.48 | CrazyFoam | tehrabbitt-1, so 6 grub entries not 15 :P |
| 08:26.51 | Felix00 | remove and reinstall |
| 08:26.55 | tehrabbitt-1 | it's down to 6 now, but yes |
| 08:26.56 | tehrabbitt-1 | lol |
| 08:27.15 | reklipz | # apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen* |
| 08:27.34 | tehrabbitt-1 | reklipz: you found it 0_o |
| 08:27.40 | reklipz | err, that might not work as expected, try linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 |
| 08:28.02 | tehrabbitt-1 | roffle, it wont let me remove it because it's the kernel being booted 0_o |
| 08:28.10 | reklipz | heh |
| 08:28.18 | reklipz | reboot into the amd64 (assuming thats the one you want) |
| 08:28.28 | tehrabbitt-1 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 08:28.40 | tehrabbitt-1 | reklipz: can't boot into it, X hangs |
| 08:28.47 | reklipz | don't use x |
| 08:28.49 | reklipz | :) |
| 08:29.03 | reklipz | x hangs, or fails to load? |
| 08:29.06 | tehrabbitt-1 | amd64 would be graet, but x hangs, and well, the mouse is very spazzy for some reason |
| 08:29.09 | tehrabbitt-1 | fails to load* |
| 08:29.21 | reklipz | what processor you have? |
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| 08:29.28 | reklipz | and this is squeeze or lenny? |
| 08:29.34 | tehrabbitt-1 | Intel core2duo i beleive |
| 08:29.34 | reklipz | or sid? |
| 08:29.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | squeeze |
| 08:29.39 | reklipz | hmm, odd |
| 08:29.42 | reklipz | works fine on my core2 |
| 08:29.48 | reklipz | dist-upgradE? |
| 08:30.10 | tehrabbitt-1 | model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz |
| 08:30.15 | tehrabbitt-1 | from /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 08:30.43 | reklipz | I have a T5670 |
| 08:31.00 | Felix00 | i can meter the horsepower of my machine with cpubench.. anyone knows how to meter the entire cluster? |
| 08:31.03 | tehrabbitt-1 | maybe it's something with the T5500 doesn't like it? lol |
| 08:31.23 | tehrabbitt-1 | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm |
| 08:31.24 | reklipz | Felix00: http://www.nagios.org/ |
| 08:31.57 | reklipz | Felix00: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cacti_(software) |
| 08:32.07 | anddam | what keymap should I use with an Apple usb keyboard? console-data for my locale gives me a qzerty, that is totally wrong |
| 08:32.16 | reklipz | Felix00: what setup do you have currently, in terms of software? |
| 08:32.25 | reklipz | what scheduler, resource manager, etc |
| 08:32.33 | anddam | and dpkg suggests to use console-setup to setup keymap in squeeze but it actually doesn't setup keymap |
| 08:32.52 | reklipz | pc104? |
| 08:32.55 | xingu | felipe: ganglia? |
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| 08:33.02 | Felix00 | whats nagios reklipz?? |
| 08:33.10 | xingu | s/felipe/Felix00/ |
| 08:33.14 | Felix00 | ok |
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| 08:33.42 | reklipz | xingu: forgot about that one, good call |
| 08:34.01 | anddam | nagios should be a system to monitor hardware |
| 08:34.10 | reklipz | indeed sir |
| 08:34.22 | anddam | great, now let's talk keymap |
| 08:34.24 | reklipz | as are ganglia and cacti |
| 08:34.27 | tehrabbitt-1 | ok so once I remove the kernel, should I just go about trying to re-install xen? lol |
| 08:34.36 | reklipz | tehrabbitt-1: can't hurt |
| 08:34.39 | anddam | this thing is driving me insane, I can't type # or @ in VM |
| 08:35.00 | reklipz | heh, that's only a few keys, you don't need em anyway |
| 08:35.13 | tehrabbitt-1 | reklipz: aightt, yea, right now my system has no kernels installed 0_o lol |
| 08:35.20 | reklipz | no kernels? |
| 08:35.40 | tehrabbitt-1 | wait... |
| 08:35.44 | tehrabbitt-1 | Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 08:35.50 | tehrabbitt-1 | how do i get rid of that 0_o |
| 08:36.05 | reklipz | what kernel do you want? |
| 08:36.08 | tehrabbitt-1 | (before I go and install the xen one) |
| 08:36.18 | tehrabbitt-1 | the xen i686 i beleive since amd64 won't boot right |
| 08:36.25 | reklipz | you can't have "no kernels", you won't be able to boot into the system. |
| 08:36.38 | tehrabbitt-1 | reklipz: exactly what the warning screen said :-p |
| 08:36.45 | tehrabbitt-1 | right before i clicked "remove kernel" |
| 08:36.52 | cafuego | reklipz: Works fine on my Xen vms :-) |
| 08:36.58 | tehrabbitt-1 | sooo if my system randomly rebooted, i'd be screwed right now |
| 08:37.01 | tehrabbitt-1 | lol |
| 08:37.13 | reklipz | cafuego: lol |
| 08:37.33 | tehrabbitt-1 | reklipz: how do i remove those other kernels though? just delete them from /boot? |
| 08:37.36 | reklipz | cafuego: but your hyperviser actually _works_, :) |
| 08:37.42 | tehrabbitt-1 | or should i just leave them be? |
| 08:37.50 | reklipz | tehrabbitt-1: using dpkg would be the optimal solution |
| 08:38.05 | tehrabbitt-1 | dpkg remove kernelname? |
| 08:38.06 | dpkg | tehrabbitt-1: wish i knew |
| 08:38.08 | reklipz | # apt-get purge linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 08:38.12 | tehrabbitt-1 | roffle |
| 08:38.18 | reklipz | or dpkg |
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| 08:38.28 | tehrabbitt-1 | what do you mean? |
| 08:38.28 | reklipz | dpkg --purge ... |
| 08:38.28 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up ... all over reklipz and terranova... |
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| 08:38.43 | reklipz | hehe |
| 08:39.06 | tehrabbitt-1 | dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove vmlinuz* which isn't installed. |
| 08:39.06 | dpkg | tehrabbitt-1: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 08:39.12 | reklipz | anyone here have an HTC Incredible through Verizon in the USA? |
| 08:39.27 | reklipz | tehrabbitt-1: that's not the name of the package |
| 08:39.30 | anddam | ah nvm, it works |
| 08:39.40 | reklipz | dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 08:39.40 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 all over reklipz and Chrono^... |
| 08:39.41 | tehrabbitt-1 | reklipz: well that's what i'm trying to figure out, what's the name 0_o |
| 08:39.48 | tehrabbitt-1 | ohhh |
| 08:39.50 | anddam | how do I switch two keys in keymap? |
| 08:39.56 | tehrabbitt-1 | :-D |
| 08:40.20 | reklipz | anddam: sorry, I'm not that hardcore, i have no idea when it comes to keymaps or x keymaps or the like |
| 08:40.46 | anddam | reklipz: lol but you're playing with a BeagleBoard :-9 |
| 08:40.47 | tehrabbitt-1 | http://pastebin.com/eSiq83R8 |
| 08:40.50 | tehrabbitt-1 | umm :-\ |
| 08:41.03 | reklipz | anddam: there is no keyboard attached, :D |
| 08:41.11 | anddam | keymap is one of that things that you keep forgotting |
| 08:41.35 | anddam | seems it keymap is pretty correct, only two keys are switched |
| 08:41.36 | tehrabbitt-1 | i'm guessing that's not normal? |
| 08:41.36 | tehrabbitt-1 | lol |
| 08:41.49 | reklipz | tehrabbitt-1: that's fine really |
| 08:42.03 | tehrabbitt-1 | oh lol... i'm guessing that's because i removed the amd64 one? |
| 08:42.05 | reklipz | just means theres a module specific to that kernel that isn't installed via that package |
| 08:42.18 | tehrabbitt-1 | Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686 |
| 08:42.26 | reklipz | so it's leaving it be, because it isn't the provider and assumes the user knows what he/she is doing |
| 08:42.28 | tehrabbitt-1 | yay, back to the original kernel lol |
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| 08:43.03 | reklipz | ls /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/ |
| 08:43.09 | tehrabbitt-1 | now for this: http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#XenonTesting.2BAC8-SqueezeandonUnstable.2BAC8-Sid |
| 08:43.11 | tehrabbitt-1 | lol |
| 08:43.34 | reklipz | how much slower is the hypervisor when only using dom0? |
| 08:43.59 | tehrabbitt-1 | just a guess this is what I want? linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-686 |
| 08:44.04 | reklipz | let me rephrase, how much slower is dom0 + hypervisor than without using a hypervisor? |
| 08:44.17 | tehrabbitt-1 | reklipz: honestly you really can't tell much of a difference at all |
| 08:44.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | it's not noticable really |
| 08:44.37 | reklipz | for everyday uses, I'm sure not, but what about under load. |
| 08:46.28 | tehrabbitt-1 | well I had 5 machines running on a dual Xeon 2.8Ghz machine with 4GB of ram.... 2 were file servers with approx 200 users pretty active downloading and uploading gigabyte sized files... the other 2 consisted of a webserver and a development server... |
| 08:46.47 | tehrabbitt-1 | I guess best way to put it is this... it's the limits of your hardware really |
| 08:47.24 | tehrabbitt-1 | I beleive, from what I understand, the hypervisor is kinda acting like a "Y" device on the actual hardware |
| 08:47.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | letting two machines equal IRQ usage at a hardware level |
| 08:47.57 | tehrabbitt-1 | kind of like a network switch off of one network drop |
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| 08:50.20 | tehrabbitt-1 | hm some interesting warnings I just got trying to install the x86 xen kernel... http://pastebin.com/qYZr3Lfv |
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| 08:51.31 | tehrabbitt-1 | i guess that kernel doesn't have support for my network card or something? lol |
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| 08:51.54 | pallgone | hmm, so nvidia doesn't load with xen, do I need to rebuild the modules for the xen kernel? if so, how? m-a? I've used the nvidia-kernel-xxx method, so I'm not sure |
| 08:53.58 | tehrabbitt-1 | wish me luck *reboots machine* |
| 08:54.17 | tehrabbitt-1 | if i dont come back.... my system wont boot haha |
| 08:54.27 | reklipz | pallgone: i always use the nvidia proprietary method |
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| 08:56.28 | tehrabbitt-1 | well now i've got 2 different xen kernels to choose from :-\ |
| 08:56.42 | tehrabbitt-1 | amd64 and xen4.0 or just my regular 686-xen kernel |
| 08:56.43 | tehrabbitt-1 | heh |
| 08:56.48 | pallgone | yeah, me too... the XEN 4.0 one doesn't work for me |
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| 08:57.22 | pallgone | and the first xen doesn't load my nvidia gfx |
| 08:57.24 | CrazyFoam | XEN 4.0 one is the hypervisor |
| 08:57.26 | tehrabbitt-1 | this scares me.... |
| 08:57.40 | tehrabbitt-1 | "squeeze/sid" shows up on my terminal prompt :-\ |
| 08:57.41 | pallgone | CrazyFoam: yes, and it reboots |
| 08:57.49 | CrazyFoam | ouch |
| 08:57.56 | tehrabbitt-1 | I'm not liking this... lol |
| 08:58.03 | reklipz | success! debian squeeze on my beagleboard |
| 08:58.11 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: why? |
| 08:58.17 | tehrabbitt-1 | how can I see what i'm actually running? 0_o |
| 08:58.22 | reklipz | uname -r |
| 08:58.30 | reklipz | should be accurate enough |
| 08:58.35 | CrazyFoam | reklipz, grats! |
| 08:58.43 | tehrabbitt-1 | 2.6.32-5-xen-686 |
| 08:59.25 | tehrabbitt-1 | and TTY1 says "Debian GNU Linux Squeeze/SID hostnamehere:" |
| 08:59.47 | tehrabbitt-1 | maybe just maybe this kernel is for both? :-\ |
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| 09:00.16 | pallgone | well, it's not unusual to see squeeze/sid for squeeze |
| 09:00.36 | tehrabbitt-1 | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xen-linux-system-2.6.32 |
| 09:00.40 | tehrabbitt-1 | that explains it |
| 09:00.41 | tehrabbitt-1 | lol |
| 09:00.46 | tehrabbitt-1 | shared kernel |
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| 09:01.14 | reklipz | he would have had to setup apt to use a sid package though, no? |
| 09:01.18 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: I try to shy away from SID when I can 0_o |
| 09:01.19 | reklipz | unless he didn't use apt |
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| 09:01.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | reklipz: it's only setup to use squeeze no SID lol |
| 09:01.47 | tehrabbitt-1 | yet apparently the kernel is generic for both squeeze and SID for XEN |
| 09:02.09 | tehrabbitt-1 | imma reboot and see if i can select the hypervisor one |
| 09:02.16 | reklipz | that's not what that page is telling me |
| 09:02.27 | reklipz | i don't follow how you came to that conclusion |
| 09:02.43 | tehrabbitt-1 | idk i saw both under the same header? |
| 09:03.26 | reklipz | that just means there are packages by that name for both... releases ... (not sure of proper term). |
| 09:04.05 | reklipz | isn't there like a debian-base package or such? |
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| 09:05.27 | pallgone | urgh... under xen the nvidia module cannot be loaded... hmm |
| 09:06.07 | pallgone | ah, maybe I need to run m-a here... |
| 09:06.09 | Raptors | Hey guys can anyone recommend me a input card that works well under linux for under $30 |
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| 09:06.13 | Raptors | just need it for SD stuff |
| 09:06.49 | Raptors | like SD satellite |
| 09:06.54 | reklipz | Raptors: capture via.. dvi? vga? hdmi? bnc? Ftype? svideo? composite? component? |
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| 09:07.16 | tehrabbitt-1 | well apparently it doesn't want to work :( |
| 09:07.16 | Raptors | reklipz, ftype |
| 09:07.24 | Raptors | or component |
| 09:07.43 | tehrabbitt-1 | XEN hypervisor is amd64 (which runs fine) but the kernel that comes bundled with it fails to boot |
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| 09:08.00 | tehrabbitt-1 | also no driver support for my ethernet card :( |
| 09:08.02 | reklipz | Raptors: you got CPU to spare? |
| 09:08.13 | pallgone | hoho... modules are building... i'm soon entering the glorious world of xen |
| 09:08.19 | Raptors | reklipz, what do you mean? |
| 09:08.29 | reklipz | for encoding the video, it takes cpu. |
| 09:08.38 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: how'd you build them? 0_o' |
| 09:08.46 | reklipz | most cheap cards only capture the raw video data and dont encode |
| 09:08.53 | Raptors | I have a AMD quad 9850 |
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| 09:09.06 | Raptors | should run fine... |
| 09:09.20 | reklipz | well, you can buy cards that will encode for you |
| 09:09.22 | reklipz | that's all |
| 09:09.30 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: booted into the xen kernel and used m-a... now comes the test... brb :) |
| 09:09.39 | tehrabbitt-1 | hm cool |
| 09:09.42 | Raptors | reklipz, I just need something cheap... |
| 09:10.00 | Raptors | with good linux support |
| 09:10.20 | s5s | I have an ATI card. When I boot up the radeon driver loads and my screen displays random colours. I've found that if I blacklist radeon this disappears AND the radeon driver is still loaded as reported by 'lsmod'. However I get 340FPS whereas i tried fedora and it gives me 650FPS. Fedora has other problems with the driver such as flickering but that's twice as many frames per second. Any ideas |
| 09:10.27 | reklipz | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV-Go |
| 09:10.32 | reklipz | http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Hauppauge-44801-WinTV-GO-WatchTV-Tuner-Capture-Card-Refurbished/4030382/product.html?cid=123620&fp=F&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=12052229 |
| 09:10.53 | reklipz | http://www.bttv-gallery.de/ -- those cards are all probably cheap |
| 09:10.58 | reklipz | and the chip has linux support |
| 09:11.32 | reklipz | I'm pretty sure that's what the wintv cards use |
| 09:11.45 | fxiny | s5s: lenny or squueze ? |
| 09:12.23 | Raptors | I want something that has linux support for sure, don't really want to buy something and get screwed over :| |
| 09:12.46 | Raptors | I'll look into that Hauppauge card. |
| 09:12.55 | pallgone | ok, all working with xen now |
| 09:13.07 | tehrabbitt-1 | nice... i'm tryign to get mine to boot :( |
| 09:13.13 | s5s | fxiny: squeeze |
| 09:13.20 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: what did you install first? the hypervisor then the kernel? |
| 09:13.59 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: first the kernel, then the hypervisor... but the hypervisor doesn't work from grub |
| 09:14.06 | fxiny | s5s: i had problem yesterday with a radeon in squueze , i installed the firmware package |
| 09:14.06 | s5s | fxiny: I should probably report a bug. I've also just seen that I might be using some mesa driver. However lsmod reports radeon as loaded and in use |
| 09:14.12 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: howso? |
| 09:14.23 | tehrabbitt-1 | what do you mean doesn't work from grub? |
| 09:14.24 | s5s | fxiny: I also have installed the firmware package |
| 09:14.31 | reklipz | s5s: glxinfo will tell you which driver is in use |
| 09:14.47 | fxiny | s5s: can you play mplayer full screen ? |
| 09:14.48 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: well, if I take the XEN 4.0 entry it will display an error and reboot |
| 09:15.11 | tehrabbitt-1 | :-\ |
| 09:15.21 | tehrabbitt-1 | so you're in the boat i'm in then... |
| 09:15.33 | tehrabbitt-1 | the kernel boots fine, but the hypervisor doesn't |
| 09:15.34 | s5s | fxiny: yes but you really don't need the proper driver to do that. |
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| 09:15.58 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: so is this useless then? |
| 09:15.59 | s5s | reklipz: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project |
| 09:16.01 | fxiny | s5s: i could not play full screen without the firmware package |
| 09:16.03 | tehrabbitt-1 | not quite.... |
| 09:16.16 | tehrabbitt-1 | just gotta figure out why the hypervisor won't boot |
| 09:16.29 | tehrabbitt-1 | which kernel did you choose? |
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| 09:16.48 | fxiny | s5s: debian mplayer or dmm mplayer . same |
| 09:16.54 | tehrabbitt-1 | c linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs, Xen dom0 support |
| 09:16.55 | s5s | fxiny: OK but if I don't blacklist the radeon driver when my computer boots up my screen shows random colours |
| 09:17.06 | tehrabbitt-1 | or amd64? |
| 09:17.14 | fxiny | !blacklist |
| 09:17.14 | dpkg | In lenny and squeeze, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 09:17.17 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64 |
| 09:17.18 | s5s | fxiny: why would that happen? |
| 09:17.28 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: ehm... |
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| 09:17.55 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: ah, no: linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 |
| 09:18.34 | tehrabbitt-1 | yea it doesn't even show up on my apt sources :-] |
| 09:18.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | :=\ |
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| 09:18.54 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: you sure that's the exact package? |
| 09:19.14 | tehrabbitt-1 | this is all i see |
| 09:19.19 | tehrabbitt-1 | linux-headers-2.6.32-5-xen-686 - Header files for Linux 2.6.32-5-xen-686 |
| 09:19.19 | tehrabbitt-1 | linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-686-dbg - Debugging infos for Linux 2.6.32-5-xen-686 |
| 09:19.19 | tehrabbitt-1 | linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-686 - Linux 2.6.32 for modern PCs, Xen dom0 support |
| 09:19.40 | reklipz | pallgone: you doing apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.32-5 | grep amd64 |
| 09:19.45 | tehrabbitt-1 | Yep |
| 09:19.53 | tehrabbitt-1 | i've tried that |
| 09:20.10 | tehrabbitt-1 | ah wait |
| 09:20.15 | tehrabbitt-1 | typoed |
| 09:20.42 | pallgone | ii linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 2.6.32-20 Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs, Xen dom0 support |
| 09:20.45 | reklipz | :) |
| 09:20.58 | tehrabbitt-1 | Hm, maybe x64 kernel will work with x64 hypervisor lol |
| 09:21.30 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: how do I fix the module issue once i reboot into the kernel? :-\ |
| 09:21.43 | tehrabbitt-1 | because i know if I reboot,i wont have networking, which means i wontbe able to get on here and ask haha |
| 09:21.59 | reklipz | anyone know what the rootwait argument does? |
| 09:22.28 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: how did you fix the modules? |
| 09:22.30 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: networking worked for me... you have to uncomment the line in xen-cfg |
| 09:22.45 | tehrabbitt-1 | but: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso.bin for module tg3 |
| 09:22.51 | tehrabbitt-1 | that's my ethernet card |
| 09:22.54 | tehrabbitt-1 | heh |
| 09:23.01 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: use module assistant |
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| 09:23.15 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: how :-\ |
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| 09:23.46 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Usemodule-assistant |
| 09:24.07 | pallgone | if you don't use nvidia you can leave that stuff away I guess |
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| 09:26.13 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: my device doesn't show up in m-a's list :-\ |
| 09:26.31 | pallgone | what device? |
| 09:26.45 | tehrabbitt-1 | tigon ethernet card |
| 09:26.49 | tehrabbitt-1 | it's a gigabit ethernet card |
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| 09:27.21 | pallgone | you have built a module for that? it just needs the firmware, doesn't it? |
| 09:27.43 | reklipz | how to mount root as read only in run level 1? |
| 09:27.48 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: I never built one, it just worked out of the box |
| 09:28.02 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: yeah, so it should with xen |
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| 09:28.16 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: yet it fails saying it cannot load device due to firmware missing |
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| 09:28.29 | tehrabbitt-1 | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso5.bin for module tg3 |
| 09:28.49 | tehrabbitt-1 | meh imma reboot and see what happens |
| 09:29.10 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 09:30.42 | tehrabbitt-1 | :-\ i'm in amd64 right now... networking is working afaik... |
| 09:30.46 | tehrabbitt-1 | but my mouse is HYPER |
| 09:31.03 | tehrabbitt-1 | also gestures dont' work anymore (pinch / pull and using 2 fingers to scroll) |
| 09:31.13 | BlackFate | <pallgone> tehrabbitt-1: aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 09:32.00 | tehrabbitt-1 | BlackFate: i'm guessing it's missing the firmware for the mouse or such so it treats it as "generic" |
| 09:32.14 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: i don't think so... |
| 09:32.39 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: I've never seen a mouse with firmware |
| 09:32.40 | tehrabbitt-1 | yea, my mouse is still going nuts :( |
| 09:32.45 | tehrabbitt-1 | it's a trackpad |
| 09:32.47 | tehrabbitt-1 | laptop |
| 09:32.48 | reklipz | my mouse has firmware |
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| 09:32.53 | reklipz | in fact, my past three have. |
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| 09:33.15 | pallgone | well, maybe firmware in the traditional sense? |
| 09:33.17 | tehrabbitt-1 | this sucks :( i can't use the trackpad at all because it's too jumpy |
| 09:33.43 | reklipz | it has firmware in the traditional sense, in that it is the software running on the microcontroller/microproc in the device |
| 09:34.02 | reklipz | I could write my own firmware with enough time. not worth it though. |
| 09:34.27 | tehrabbitt-1 | BlackFate: do I need to reboot after that? |
| 09:34.50 | BlackFate | tehrabbitt-1, no, this command was to fix your /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso5.bin error |
| 09:34.55 | pallgone | reklipz: ok, but you don't need to LOAD non-free firmware to get it working? |
| 09:34.58 | tehrabbitt-1 | ohhh |
| 09:35.13 | tehrabbitt-1 | how do I fix the mouse thing though lol that's my main question |
| 09:35.14 | reklipz | pallgone: correct, the firmware is non-volatile |
| 09:35.30 | kmonk | how does one activate debconf to ask more questions during the installation of packages via readline? |
| 09:35.43 | reklipz | most gpus require one to upload a new firmware every power reset |
| 09:35.43 | tehrabbitt-1 | basically the mouse JUMPS around the screen (way too sensitive) and the scroll features don't work anymore (it's a trackpad on a laptop) |
| 09:35.55 | BlackFate | kmonk, dpk-reconfigure debconf |
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| 09:36.08 | kmonk | nice1 thanks matey |
| 09:36.29 | BlackFate | np |
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| 09:36.54 | tehrabbitt-1 | [ 4.023227] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 6.2, id: 0x25a0b1, caps: 0xa04793/0x300000/0x0 |
| 09:36.55 | tehrabbitt-1 | [ 4.023233] serio: Synaptics pass-through port at isa0060/serio4/input0 |
| 09:36.55 | tehrabbitt-1 | [ 4.062803] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input7 |
| 09:37.00 | tehrabbitt-1 | :-\ |
| 09:37.29 | BlackFate | tehrabbitt-1, well.. you just need to add some option to your xorg to tweak it.. |
| 09:37.36 | BlackFate | options** |
| 09:38.05 | tehrabbitt-1 | how come x86 worked out of the box but x64 is giving me crazy issues where i need to basically use keyboard commands because it shakes too much? |
| 09:39.14 | reklipz | woah, cron is hogging cpu |
| 09:39.19 | reklipz | on my beagle |
| 09:39.30 | BlackFate | tehrabbitt-1, http://dpaste.com/235698/ try these... (avoid using the last one) |
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| 09:40.01 | tehrabbitt-1 | where do I put that though 0_o |
| 09:40.15 | BlackFate | tehrabbitt-1, in a terminal |
| 09:40.22 | tehrabbitt-1 | ah |
| 09:40.26 | BlackFate | tehrabbitt-1, as local user |
| 09:40.46 | tehrabbitt-1 | bash: xinput: command not found |
| 09:40.57 | BlackFate | tehrabbitt-1, install it |
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| 09:41.31 | tehrabbitt-1 | unable to find device "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" |
| 09:41.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | :-\ lol |
| 09:41.52 | BlackFate | :-/ |
| 09:43.05 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: probably you have an alsp touchpad |
| 09:43.06 | liable | i wish they would fix that xorg stuff. i have to use xinput for my trackpoint too |
| 09:43.16 | liable | its getting old |
| 09:44.05 | tehrabbitt-1 | what confuses me though is this [ 4.062803] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input7 |
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| 09:44.48 | pallgone | ok, I'm creating a xen image... hmm... takes long |
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| 09:45.53 | Hounddog | hmm |
| 09:45.59 | Hounddog | hi everyone |
| 09:46.00 | tehrabbitt-1 | :-\ still no useable mouse |
| 09:46.10 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: attach one :) |
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| 09:46.21 | Hounddog | is there a way i can call the installation menu again where i select the packages after installing? |
| 09:46.21 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: I wish it were that easy haha |
| 09:46.32 | Hounddog | just courious |
| 09:46.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: i like my trackpad :( |
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| 09:47.42 | wfq | hi guys |
| 09:47.48 | pallgone | tehrabbitt-1: sometimes you have to bring sacrifices |
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| 09:48.07 | tehrabbitt-1 | pallgone: not when i'm somewhere I can't use a mouse though lol.. it's litterly my portable laptop :-p |
| 09:48.37 | reisio | where should one get /usr/bin/Xvnc if it doesn't come with tigervncserver? |
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| 09:50.01 | wfq | how can I print out the content of my LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable? I have tried echo $.. and also env but I cannot see anything. I have added it to my .profile like this: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/usr/share/ffmpeg_manuall_compiled:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 09:50.01 | pallgone | hmm, so how do I boot the xen-image now? :) |
| 09:50.11 | wfq | still unable to see anything out |
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| 09:51.37 | kmonk | pallgone: yo |
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| 09:52.15 | pallgone | !hi kmonk |
| 09:52.38 | reklipz | echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 09:52.42 | reklipz | export |
| 09:52.50 | reklipz | export | grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 09:53.03 | Hounddog | so i guess no way to recall the installation menu? |
| 09:53.19 | kmonk | you've compiled the xen image from kernel src? if you make-kpkg kernel_image it will create a deb for you and installing that, assuming you have grub and a sound /boot/ system, it will *sigh* automagically appear on the grub menu |
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| 09:54.22 | kmonk | i hate that word, but sometimes it's just apt. |
| 09:54.42 | reklipz | heh |
| 09:55.47 | pallgone | but the hypervisor isn't working... and I guess because of that xend is missing too... hmm |
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| 09:56.24 | pallgone | I don't have much of a clue here.. first time I try to do something with xen |
| 09:56.25 | tehrabbitt-1 | :( i give up nothing I try works |
| 09:56.29 | tehrabbitt-1 | it's definatally a driver issue |
| 09:57.29 | wfq | reklipz, when I do echo $... I got nothing printed but I have actually added it to my .profile |
| 09:57.41 | reklipz | wfq: have you loaded your .profile/ |
| 09:57.48 | tehrabbitt-1 | anyway i'm goin to bed |
| 09:57.49 | tehrabbitt-1 | night all |
| 09:58.12 | wfq | reklipz, in the worse scenario I logged out and in again |
| 09:58.24 | wfq | I shall do it again |
| 09:58.27 | reklipz | ok |
| 09:58.37 | reklipz | you need to export LD_LIBRARY_PATH, as well btw |
| 09:58.53 | reklipz | I think... |
| 09:59.12 | kmonk | pallgone: under "make menuconfig" hit / and type "XEN" . there's a lot of xeny things in there, it probably has something to do with those or the guide you are using ( are you using a guide?) |
| 10:00.33 | wfq | reklipz, it seems the mistake was that I had ~ after ..PATH=. Now I can see it |
| 10:00.36 | wfq | thanks |
| 10:00.39 | reklipz | no prob |
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| 10:04.59 | wfq | reklipz, I can actually see it on my console but not on a terminal in my X-Window. I have logged in and out in both X and console. Could my personal X-environment have its own files? |
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| 10:05.31 | reklipz | not sure |
| 10:05.41 | reklipz | when I did export LD_LIB... it worked |
| 10:05.43 | reklipz | but not when I didnt. |
| 10:06.28 | reklipz | it should be the shell that picks up the .profile, so it should work fine |
| 10:06.51 | wfq | reklipz but I have added this line to my .profile: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/share/ffmpeg_manually_compiled:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| 10:09.43 | pallgone | kmonk: no, I'm just playing around... I was under the impression that I would be able to boot another image from withing my OS, isn't that possible? |
| 10:10.40 | reklipz | it works fien for me |
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| 10:11.01 | reklipz | you need to restart the x server I believe |
| 10:11.18 | wfq | let's do it then |
| 10:11.38 | wfq | but it seems strange x-server affects the shell session |
| 10:11.43 | wfq | see you in a minute :) |
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| 10:14.30 | wfq | reklipz, no luck yet |
| 10:14.38 | reklipz | wfq pastebin the file |
| 10:14.48 | reklipz | also, do you have a .bash_login file? |
| 10:15.07 | reklipz | or a .bash_profile file? |
| 10:15.14 | wfq | I have no bash_profile |
| 10:15.23 | wfq | just .profile which is including bashrc |
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| 10:16.16 | wfq | http://pastebin.com/RQwAkvQV |
| 10:16.39 | reklipz | interesting. I have no idea what's going on. |
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| 10:17.07 | wfq | I shall try by renaming .profiles as .bash_profile |
| 10:17.20 | wfq | don't know x-server has got a problem with it |
| 10:18.03 | reklipz | heh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/366728 |
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| 10:18.47 | kmonk | back- |
| 10:19.06 | wfq | reklipz :). |
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| 10:19.32 | kmonk | pallgone: yeah it's possible, do you want that kernel to interface with your running system or a virtualized one |
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| 10:20.01 | wfq | that's it |
| 10:20.04 | wfq | it works |
| 10:20.12 | reklipz | what's it? |
| 10:20.22 | wfq | I just moved to .bashrc and it works apparently |
| 10:20.29 | reklipz | yeah, interesting |
| 10:20.35 | wfq | thanks mate |
| 10:22.03 | kmonk | pallgone: because if all you want is to see how the kernel runs in an emulation, qemu is the way to go |
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| 10:22.54 | pallgone | kmonk: yeah sure, but qemu/kvm has problems with windows and other OSs |
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| 10:23.16 | pallgone | kmonk: I don't like virtualbox, so I thought xen could do a better job |
| 10:24.09 | pallgone | kmonk: actually I would like to some kind of windows in a VM from within my running system |
| 10:24.15 | pallgone | *run |
| 10:24.23 | kmonk | yep yep |
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| 10:24.51 | reklipz | damn, outta beer |
| 10:25.41 | reklipz | hunts for the whiskey |
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| 10:28.53 | s5s | I am compiling a kernel from kernel.org because I'm having problems with some drivers. Anyway I read some time ago that there is a tool which can automatically inspect the current system and generate an optimised config for that system. What's the name of that tool? |
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| 10:31.09 | kmonk | well, kvm is just Kernel based Virtual Machine support in short, and is useless without hardware virtualization extensions and needs to be compiled with the kernel to suit the architecture (amd or intel?). without this virtual machines will always be a kinda sluggish inside the host operating system, you shouldn't have any problems actually getting it to work, a play around with the qemu settings with a gui makes changing the virtual machine settings to suit t |
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| 10:32.51 | kmonk | no idea about xen at all i'm sorry :( |
| 10:33.23 | neoice | whats going on? I know a bit about all of the hypervisors |
| 10:33.39 | pallgone | kmonk: np, thanks anyway |
| 10:34.06 | neoice | Xen is pretty amazing, but its very advanced |
| 10:34.32 | neoice | I ran WinXP in Xen using HVM, which is just another VT tech |
| 10:34.33 | Leonidas | and ugly to set up |
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| 10:34.40 | Gijs | he yall |
| 10:34.44 | Gijs | how to see online users |
| 10:34.46 | neoice | if you dont have hardware virt, you cant do much |
| 10:34.55 | Gijs | all users wich are connected to the machine |
| 10:35.19 | neoice | Leonidas: yeah, but once you get it set, its solid, durable and has more knobs and switches than you'd ever need |
| 10:35.22 | cahoot | Gijs: w perhaps |
| 10:35.23 | neoice | Gijs: who? |
| 10:35.27 | pallgone | Gijs: w |
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| 10:38.13 | Gijs | and how to fix a segmentation fault? |
| 10:38.18 | kmonk | s5s: i did find this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kautoconfigure/ it's horribly out dated. |
| 10:39.32 | kmonk | you can't fix segmentation faults unless you are hex guru; as mere mortals can only take steps avoid them! :s |
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| 10:41.11 | s5s | kmonk: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/9/16/290 This looks interesting as well |
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| 10:42.12 | s5s | kmonk: I can't believe debian doesn't have any newer kernels than 2.6.32. Testing, unstable even I think experimental |
| 10:42.43 | stew | judd: kernels |
| 10:42.44 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.35-trunk-686 (2.6.35-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-21); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-20); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-20~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-24lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 10:43.17 | s5s | stew: what's trunk? |
| 10:43.36 | s5s | !trunk |
| 10:43.36 | dpkg | [trunk] a term from version control systems such as <cvs>, <svn> and <git>. The "trunk" can often be thought of as a developer's playground, the stability (or otherwise) of the code varies from project to project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunk_(software) . Debian 2.6.32-trunk-* kernel image/headers packages are obsolete and were removed from the archive ; /msg judd kernel --release squeeze ; see Debian bug #568160 and <kernel abi>. |
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| 10:44.20 | kmonk | the kernel is independant, it's easy enough to get the source from www.kernel.org and build it into the syste, (well, easy is a subjective term) |
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| 10:45.11 | stew | s5s: what version of the kenrel is the kernel team targetting for the squeeze release? |
| 10:45.23 | stew | if its the .32 kernel, that would certainly explain the current situation |
| 10:45.44 | reklipz | I'm trying to use NetworkManager without a gui |
| 10:45.52 | kmonk | it's weird that someone hasn't just compiled the latest generic and kept that on the repository anyway... when you get the source code do a "make help" and it will show you all the options otherwise i suggest you follow the manual |
| 10:45.58 | djura-san | o/ |
| 10:47.09 | stew | reklipz: why not wicd-curses? |
| 10:47.20 | reklipz | stew, I've never heard of it |
| 10:47.49 | Trewas | quite weird that they selected .32 as the squeeze kernel, the kernel will be probably a year old when squeeze will be actually released |
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| 10:48.36 | Trewas | though a few other distros (like ubuntu's lts) is using that so I guess it makes maintaining easier |
| 10:48.48 | reklipz | stew: is it any better? according to wikipedia, the user has to instruct it to connect, whereas nm just connects |
| 10:49.02 | stew | Trewas: why is it weird? are we sure that is the kernel they are targetting? |
| 10:49.06 | Leonidas | neoice: yeah, I dumped it for KVM :) |
| 10:49.08 | kmonk | +1 wicd - the daemon will handle your connection when it's configured |
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| 10:49.22 | stew | reklipz: mine connects automatically when I boot |
| 10:49.28 | Trewas | stew: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2010/08/msg00392.html according to that it is, and a year old kernel misses a lot of support for new hardware |
| 10:51.03 | stew | Trewas: i really think we'll release before another year |
| 10:51.22 | Trewas | stew: .32 was released in december 2009, I was counting from that |
| 10:52.19 | stew | Trewas: the one in sid was released 2 days ago |
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| 10:53.13 | Trewas | stew: I doubt they have backported all the new drivers |
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| 10:54.06 | bAndie9100 | hi all |
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| 10:55.23 | stew | Trewas: a version with lots of new drivers wouldn't make it past the release team |
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| 10:55.51 | stew | Trewas: and at some point that have to stop introducing new code so that we can get the bugs out for a release. if you keep letting new bugs in we'll never release |
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| 10:57.25 | rvsjoen | having some issues installing the java plugin, I can't find the libjavaplugin_oji.so after installing the sun-java6-plugin package, is it called something else ? |
| 10:57.26 | Trewas | stew: yeah it is a bit late now, and there probably are good reasons why they decided to stay with an older kernel... but a release with already quite old kernel will still cause hw compatibility problems early |
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| 11:00.11 | pallgone | Trewas: it's stable vs. bloody edge |
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| 11:06.46 | BlackFate | !webmin |
| 11:06.46 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 about the removal from Debian. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 11:07.41 | rvsjoen | does debian have an available 64-bit java plugin ? |
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| 11:16.17 | sauvin | When did Etch get removed from mirrors? |
| 11:16.32 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:17.10 | iceroot | rvsjoen: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/amd64/sun-java6-bin/download |
| 11:17.44 | iceroot | rvsjoen: ah sorry you mean the plugin |
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| 11:18.19 | iceroot | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/amd64/sun-java6-plugin/download |
| 11:20.10 | rvsjoen | is that a different package from sun-java6-plugin that I find through aptitude ? (in squeeze) |
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| 11:20.42 | abrotman | sauvin: maybe three months ago? |
| 11:20.49 | abrotman | sauvin: see archive.debian.org |
| 11:21.35 | sauvin | Yea, somebody told me to /msg dpkg etch that said it was in July, I think it was. |
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| 11:22.48 | rvsjoen | hmm.. maybe it actually is the 64 bit plugin I have, but the firefox is wrong |
| 11:23.16 | nkuttler | rvsjoen: um. install iceweasel. or do you have a 64bit firefox? |
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| 11:24.11 | rvsjoen | I have the 3.6.8 package of firefox, not iceweasel. i'm not sure how to check if its 64, at least readelf says class: ELF32 |
| 11:24.17 | rvsjoen | so I guess its 32 |
| 11:24.34 | nkuttler | there are no official 64bit builds |
| 11:24.52 | rvsjoen | so I tried also grabbing ia32-sun-java6-bin and linking the plugin |
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| 11:28.54 | abrotman | notgoogle: Debian ? |
| 11:29.29 | notgoogle | Debian is for french cops, AFAIK |
| 11:29.48 | notgoogle | Ubuntu is a school mod of Debian |
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| 11:33.46 | no1de | Can anynne help me with a routing probem on a debian system? I have 4 virtual ip but I want that all traffic goes out only through one main ip |
| 11:34.09 | abrotman | are all IPs on the same network ? |
| 11:34.21 | no1de | yes |
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| 11:36.25 | rvsjoen | so I install ia32-sun-java6-bin and symlink libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun-1.6.0.21/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so in the firefox/plugins folder, shouldn't that be enough ? |
| 11:36.27 | qwd | I have a 2tb hard drive which uses 4096 byte sectors. I want to format it and use it just as if it had been there during installation, with full disk encryption and LVM. What should I use for this, and how should I do it? What's used for encryption during installation? dm-crypt only? |
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| 11:36.42 | BlackFate | no1de, in the interfaces file, set the ips you dont want to be default without gateway option, just iface,address,netmask.... |
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| 11:40.02 | no1de | BlackFate: thank you, I will try |
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| 11:45.17 | rvsjoen | oh look at that, for ff3.6.8 the plugin is no longer libjavaplugin_oji.so but instead libnpjp2.so, which also exists in ia32-sun-java6-bin |
| 11:45.29 | rvsjoen | thanks for the help |
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| 12:06.13 | mutante | what will be the name of testing once squeeze is stable? |
| 12:06.56 | osfd | Hi there. How could I know which com port is active ? |
| 12:06.58 | osfd | please |
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| 12:07.45 | abrotman | mutante: not decided yet |
| 12:08.01 | abrotman | osfd: active? there will be /dev/ttyS* as possibilities |
| 12:08.49 | abrotman | osfd: i guess you need to describe your issue a bit more |
| 12:08.53 | osfd | abrotman: I'm playing with an arduino board. The board has a usb to com uart. So I'm supposed to have a virtual serial port |
| 12:09.21 | osfd | abrotman: I'd like to know the new virtual port address |
| 12:09.42 | abrotman | dmesg doesn't tell you when you plug it in ?> |
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| 12:10.01 | beardy | osfd: Replug the USB, watch logs and 'dmesg'. |
| 12:10.20 | osfd | [16420.010621] ftdi_sio 3-1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected |
| 12:11.38 | mutante | abrotman: ah ok, thanks so if i use "testing" in sources now and squeeze becomes stable, it will be a little surprise what i am on . |
| 12:11.53 | abrotman | mutante: you sohuld really point at 'squeeze', not 'testing' |
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| 12:13.02 | mutante | hmm,ok, thought it would be more interesting, but ok :) |
| 12:13.29 | abrotman | mutante: FSVO "interesting" .. sure |
| 12:14.05 | mutante | yea well, its a desktop , not a production server |
| 12:14.17 | Tadej | in which deb packet can I find mail? |
| 12:14.41 | petemc | mailx |
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| 12:15.25 | petemc | or bsd-mailx |
| 12:15.56 | eshat | I can not subscribe to a bug in the Debian BTS, i simply do not get an e-mail after sending to nnn-subscribe@bugs.debian.org where nnn is the bug number of course... |
| 12:16.20 | eshat | I tried with 3 differnt emial adresses (one gmail)... |
| 12:16.25 | st__ | i've submitted a couple of patches to bts but not heard ever since, is it normal? |
| 12:17.18 | st__ | or I must be a paying customer to contribute? |
| 12:17.55 | osfd | abrotman: can be ttyUSB0 ? |
| 12:18.02 | abrotman | osfd: yes |
| 12:18.25 | abrotman | eshat: didn't you ask this a few weeks ago too? i think that's the wrong syntax |
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| 12:23.23 | eshat | abrotman: did I ? You seem to remember the things I do, better than I do |
| 12:23.45 | abrotman | eshat: someone was asking the exact same thing a few weeks ago |
| 12:23.56 | eshat | abrotman: Well it wasn't me |
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| 12:24.27 | eshat | so, is the BTS subscribe feature broken ? |
| 12:24.40 | abrotman | eshat: i think there's another way to do it |
| 12:24.47 | osfd | abrotman: sounds like the port I'm looking but I can't open it with the serial python module |
| 12:24.58 | abrotman | osfd: try using minicom |
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| 12:25.31 | abrotman | eshat: which i cannot currently find |
| 12:25.40 | eshat | abrotman: :( |
| 12:25.44 | osfd | abrotman: I need to through the python module though |
| 12:26.08 | abrotman | osfd: right, but make sure it works at all first |
| 12:26.58 | abrotman | eshat: how long did you wait ? |
| 12:27.00 | osfd | abrotman: any clues to help me, please. |
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| 12:27.08 | abrotman | i said to try to connect with minicom |
| 12:27.09 | eshat | abrotman: I already tried month ago |
| 12:27.10 | osfd | abrotman: minicom |
| 12:27.14 | osfd | sorry |
| 12:27.25 | eshat | abrotman: and retried right now ,... |
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| 12:28.19 | Quibus | hi |
| 12:28.28 | Quibus | Any glibc maintainers around? |
| 12:28.52 | abrotman | ask your real question |
| 12:29.55 | Quibus | abrotman: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=594742 |
| 12:30.29 | Quibus | I wonder if more people can reproduce it and if it shouldn't be considered a very important bug or something, as programs may break on it. |
| 12:30.44 | osfd | abrotman: minicom tells me S1... one big step :) |
| 12:31.10 | abrotman | Quibus: you just reported it 24hrs ago .. they may not have seen it yet |
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| 12:31.31 | Quibus | abrotman: I know, that's why I'm asking here |
| 12:31.49 | abrotman | Quibus: so you want me to compile your snippet ? |
| 12:32.14 | Quibus | abrotman: it would give me another clue on how oftent his would trigger |
| 12:32.27 | abrotman | is apparently missing some library |
| 12:32.30 | abrotman | or include file |
| 12:32.42 | Quibus | ? |
| 12:32.47 | abrotman | or not |
| 12:32.59 | st__ | i've submitted a couple of patches to bts but not heard ever since, is it normal or I should pay for someone to deal w/tmeh& |
| 12:33.09 | abrotman | Quibus: uhm .. what is supposed to happen? |
| 12:33.22 | abrotman | st__: heard from the maintainer? |
| 12:33.29 | Quibus | abrotman: if nothing happens, except eating all CPU time, it's OK :-) |
| 12:33.30 | st__ | yes |
| 12:33.38 | abrotman | Quibus: yeah .. i have no error/warning |
| 12:33.42 | abrotman | st__: which bug# ? |
| 12:33.49 | Quibus | abrotman: for me at triggers the pasted assert within a second |
| 12:34.02 | st__ | abrotman, does it matter? |
| 12:34.17 | abrotman | Quibus: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz .. is what i have |
| 12:34.42 | abrotman | st__: it might if the maintainer is MIA |
| 12:34.56 | Quibus | abrotman: that's not too different from mine, I guess |
| 12:35.15 | abrotman | Quibus: could it be something else on the system doing it ? |
| 12:35.28 | Quibus | abrotman: I can't think of anything... maybe you can? |
| 12:35.38 | abrotman | eshat: i don't see a mailing list to ask about the BTS |
| 12:35.59 | abrotman | eshat: but there is an email address at the bottom |
| 12:36.35 | eshat | abrotman: well... I'll wait one more day... |
| 12:36.40 | eshat | thanks |
| 12:37.10 | abrotman | Quibus: would all cores have the same clock ? |
| 12:37.18 | st__ | the maintainer is 'pyton applications team', how can they be mia? |
| 12:37.46 | antivigilante | is iceowl discontinued now that sunbird is gone? |
| 12:37.57 | abrotman | judd: versions iceowl |
| 12:37.59 | judd | iceowl -- etch-backports: 0.7-2~bpo40+1; lenny: 0.8-6; sid: 1.0~b1+dfsg1-1; squeeze: 1.0~b1+dfsg1-1; experimental: 1.0~b2-2 |
| 12:38.00 | Raptors | has anyone installed boxee on 64 debian? |
| 12:38.02 | antivigilante | i prefer a full blown app |
| 12:38.06 | abrotman | st__: when did you submit your patch ? |
| 12:38.14 | Quibus | abrotman: well, not sure what the CPU frequency scaling does |
| 12:38.38 | antivigilante | abrotman so debian project still continuing to develop it? |
| 12:38.47 | abrotman | antivigilante: i doubt it, but it is available |
| 12:39.03 | abrotman | antivigilante: though lightning is very good now |
| 12:39.05 | qwd | I have a 2tb hard drive which uses 4096 byte sectors. I want to format it and use it just as if it had been there during installation, with full disk encryption and LVM. What should I use for this, and how should I do it? What's used for encryption during installation? dm-crypt only? |
| 12:39.25 | st__ | in june |
| 12:39.28 | antivigilante | if i add something in iceowl will it show up in icedove iceowl extension? |
| 12:39.56 | abrotman | you mean icedove-lightning extension ? |
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| 12:40.07 | abrotman | st__: which bug is this? |
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| 12:40.28 | abrotman | Quibus: possibly a hardware issue, but i wouldn't know where .. |
| 12:40.29 | antivigilante | let me check what i have |
| 12:40.58 | Raptors | has anyone installed boxee on 64 debian? |
| 12:41.45 | abrotman | st__: it's possible they don't view the bug as being very serious, or perhaps your patch is very large and no one has thoroughly reviewed it yet |
| 12:42.07 | antivigilante | it shows up as iceowl extension |
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| 12:42.47 | st__ | i got it, noone give a shit if it's not a posterchild packege |
| 12:43.06 | osfd | abrotman: Actually, the arduino IDE has a serial monitor. It works...but still I can't open the right port with the pthon serial module... I'll give a try in the python channel... Thank you |
| 12:43.10 | antivigilante | abrotman: it shows up as iceowlextension in synaptic should i remove that and add lightning from addons.mozillar.org |
| 12:43.27 | abrotman | that's bullshit .. guy shows up whining .. won't tell anyone the actual bug#, then storms off ... |
| 12:43.42 | abrotman | antivigilante: you can probably have them both installed |
| 12:44.07 | abrotman | osfd: but you've found it with minicom righT ? |
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| 12:44.58 | antivigilante | well i have both iceowl-ext and the full blown app but should i replace the iceowl-ext with lightning extension from A.M.O? |
| 12:45.02 | Quibus | abrotman: any idea if the mobo's BIOS could have to do something with it? I remember that frequency scaling didn't even work before I flashed the BIOS to the (then) latest version. I haven't touched it since. |
| 12:45.10 | abrotman | antivigilante: oh, not sure |
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| 12:45.40 | abrotman | Quibus: you could try to flash the bios again .. if there's a newer one .. you could also try asking ##hardware, but i'm not sure if they deal with those kinds of questions |
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| 12:46.10 | osfd | abrotman: not sure... |
| 12:46.19 | Quibus | abrotman: there is a newer one, but everyone keeps telling me I shouldn't flash it unless there is a very good reason to |
| 12:46.46 | beardy | osfd: Btw, GNU screen does serial talking nowadays. |
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| 12:52.39 | antivigilante | abrotman lightning not available for x64! |
| 12:52.44 | antivigilante | so iceowl it is |
| 12:52.53 | abrotman | oh jeez |
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| 12:53.32 | amanita_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.42 | antivigilante | i'll stick to the extension so I won't have issues |
| 12:55.25 | abrotman | amanita_: i odn't see anything |
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| 12:58.26 | fhffhqvb | you can recompile it. |
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| 13:01.31 | angel-tsankov | how do I make su think it is run from a terminal |
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| 13:03.06 | beardy | angel-tsankov: When is that necessary, what are you trying to do? |
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| 13:03.22 | project2501b | angel-tsankov: tell ssh to allocate a pseudo terminal. |
| 13:03.23 | angel-tsankov | I need this in a shell script |
| 13:03.29 | angel-tsankov | I'm not using ssh |
| 13:03.48 | project2501b | angel-tsankov: use sudo instead |
| 13:03.58 | beardy | What project2501b said. |
| 13:04.06 | angel-tsankov | I don't want sudo |
| 13:04.10 | project2501b | holy !#@% i am right :D |
| 13:04.13 | beardy | Yes, you do. |
| 13:04.17 | project2501b | yes, you do. |
| 13:04.56 | abrotman | why does he need sudo ? |
| 13:05.11 | abrotman | angel-tsankov: what are you trying to do? and what is the error? |
| 13:05.56 | angel-tsankov | su <<EOF; echo this is a test; EOF |
| 13:06.05 | beardy | abrotman: Running su in a script feeding it a cleartext password is a Bad idea. |
| 13:06.14 | angel-tsankov | the error is su: must be run from a terminal |
| 13:06.30 | nkuttler | i'm searching for a centralized calendar that can be accessed through various clients, no collab etc needed. i'm thinking calendarserver. any comments? |
| 13:06.35 | project2501b | plus su requires a terminal. |
| 13:06.42 | abrotman | beardy: why does it require a password? |
| 13:06.46 | Raptors | hey guys how do I create a link? Boxee needs "libdirectfb-1.2" but I have libdirectfb-1.2-9 |
| 13:06.50 | beardy | abrotman: man su |
| 13:06.59 | project2501b | Raptors: man ln |
| 13:07.02 | abrotman | he didn't say he was trying to su to root ... |
| 13:07.17 | project2501b | even su -c needs a pseudo-terminal at least. |
| 13:07.20 | abrotman | if the script is run as root, he could be doing su - <otheruser> 'some command' |
| 13:07.25 | Raptors | project2501a, can't you just tell me what to do? :( |
| 13:07.38 | Raptors | project2501b |
| 13:07.39 | angel-tsankov | sorry, yes -- I'm trying to su to root |
| 13:07.52 | angel-tsankov | from within a here-document |
| 13:08.10 | project2501b | Raptors: yes, i can tell you: RTFM |
| 13:08.20 | Raptors | :'( |
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| 13:08.36 | abrotman | angel-tsankov: which user is running the script? |
| 13:08.52 | nogo | iirc, ubuntu's root is not actived by default |
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| 13:09.06 | beardy | nogo: Why would we care? |
| 13:09.12 | angel-tsankov | abrotman: me |
| 13:09.12 | nogo | hehe |
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| 13:09.37 | abrotman | angel-tsankov: see, when you give more details, it does help us |
| 13:10.17 | Raptors | What's the difference between a "symbolic link" and a "hard link"? |
| 13:10.26 | beardy | Raptors: Do read the manual, hint, look for "-s". |
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| 13:10.48 | Raptors | I read the manual. I just don't get what does :| |
| 13:10.48 | project2501b | Raptors: i am sure, someone will kick you if you keep asking questions that any introductory to unix book has. |
| 13:10.55 | angel-tsankov | abrotman: I hope this helps me, too |
| 13:11.06 | project2501b | Raptors: go read about inodes |
| 13:11.07 | s5s | When compiling a kernel from kernel.org do I need the --initrd option in make-kpkg? |
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| 13:11.24 | Raptors | project2501b, why you being a dick for? |
| 13:11.34 | pallgone | Raptors: use ln -s for your purpose |
| 13:11.36 | project2501b | Raptors: too many Ubuntu users. |
| 13:11.44 | abrotman | s5s: no, it's up to you .. |
| 13:12.05 | project2501b | Raptors: giving you the solution is not going to help you or me, longterm |
| 13:12.16 | Raptors | Yes it will. |
| 13:12.18 | s5s | abrotman: what does this option do? |
| 13:12.22 | Raptors | pallgone, kk |
| 13:12.35 | abrotman | s5s: it creates .. an initrd/initramfs |
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| 13:12.51 | abrotman | !tell Raptors about fish |
| 13:12.53 | abrotman | !tell Raptors about grounding |
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| 13:13.49 | s5s | abrotman: yes but what is this used for :) ? |
| 13:14.14 | abrotman | !tell s5s about initrd |
| 13:14.21 | Raptors | "Instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, ask us which documentation to read, read them, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered." I did do that. |
| 13:14.23 | abrotman | !tell s5s about initramfs |
| 13:14.33 | abrotman | Raptors: you read the ln man page? |
| 13:14.33 | Raptors | I read the man for ln and it doesn't say what the difference is |
| 13:14.45 | Raptors | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.45 | Raptors | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.17 | jarick | Raptors: info ln |
| 13:16.30 | project2501b | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link |
| 13:16.46 | nogo | would you say: what's a hard link? |
| 13:16.55 | nogo | !@##@$$%%^&* |
| 13:17.16 | Raptors | ... |
| 13:17.24 | kmonk | now now :D |
| 13:17.33 | pallgone | a soft link is like a women... |
| 13:18.13 | nogo | falls in a snap |
| 13:18.15 | beardy | Raptors: Usually wikipedia, or a general *nix book/wiki/document would answer that. Make use of the links in the grounding factoid. |
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| 13:18.18 | project2501b | Raptors: seriously, go open an introductory book to linux |
| 13:18.33 | Raptors | I don't have one. |
| 13:18.37 | nogo | or any unix book |
| 13:18.45 | pallgone | Raptors: they are all over the web |
| 13:18.51 | kmonk | a hardlink basically tricks the system into believing a directory or file exists in two places, a symbolic link is mearly a file that relocates functions to that other location when it's referenced |
| 13:19.12 | nogo | one word, inode |
| 13:19.12 | kmonk | at least, that's my basic understanding... |
| 13:19.14 | beardy | Raptors: The Debian Reference is a good one. |
| 13:19.20 | Raptors | kmonk, thanks |
| 13:19.21 | project2501b | mdadm requires exim4-light? |
| 13:19.22 | project2501b | wtf? |
| 13:19.23 | jarick | Or even http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ |
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| 13:20.01 | kmonk | people say use symbolic links, because they are helpful and more importantly, much safer to use. |
| 13:20.31 | project2501b | OY |
| 13:20.36 | project2501b | COFFEE ME |
| 13:20.41 | beardy | Raptors: In general you very seldom need to use hard links. I can't remember ever creating one. |
| 13:20.43 | project2501b | i am fallign asleep. |
| 13:20.48 | nogo | yet, when you can link to another partition |
| 13:21.03 | project2501b | congrats now what has he learned? |
| 13:21.12 | nogo | learn to turks, grab a coffee |
| 13:21.24 | project2501b | that he can troll #debian and troll people to give him his answer. |
| 13:21.26 | nogo | and you will win the war |
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| 13:23.46 | pallgone | i think rsnapshot is using them... so they seem to have some use :) |
| 13:24.08 | Raptors | How is asking a question on a support irc channel being a troll? |
| 13:24.15 | Raptors | facepalm |
| 13:25.44 | AimHere | Trolling is saying things to provoke a response. There's no reason that can't be done by asking questions |
| 13:26.05 | Raptors | I'm not provoking anything.... |
| 13:26.43 | AimHere | I didn't say you were. I was just answering your question |
| 13:26.47 | abrotman | Raptors: I think the complaint here is that you could have easily found this information elsewhere. man pages, google, user docs .. All kinds of places |
| 13:26.48 | pallgone | Raptors: anything else you want to know? |
| 13:26.55 | abrotman | Anyways .. back to the fun stuff! |
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| 13:33.19 | beardy | Raptors: Don't stop asking questions. Just filter them through yourself first, searching the web first, or manuals/documentation. |
| 13:33.28 | beardy | is out. |
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| 13:38.15 | blk | i'm trying to add an additional define to my rules file for a cdbs/CMake project but i can't seem to make it work. i've tried adding lines like "DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS += -DFOO=BOOL:ON" or DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS as well as DEB_CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS and others. ideas? |
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| 13:39.46 | abrotman | blk: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net might be mor ehelp |
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| 13:40.08 | blk | abrotman, thanks for the pointer |
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| 13:43.55 | sshoon | I am confused. |
| 13:44.14 | sshoon | I lost hours of life to this today. |
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| 13:46.24 | sshoon | staybb: Have you tried ~/.fonts? |
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| 13:51.26 | themill | !install font |
| 13:51.26 | dpkg | To install fonts for just one user, copy then into ~/.fonts/ and then run fc-cache -fv (or ask me about <kfontinst>). To install them system-wide, copy them into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts or into /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts (but you will have to add /usr/local/share/fonts/ to your xorg.conf) and run fc-cache -fv as root. |
| 13:52.21 | staybb | create .fonts directory if dont exist? |
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| 13:52.59 | sshoon | !udev |
| 13:53.00 | dpkg | [udev] /dev/ and hotplug management daemon. Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of <DevFS>, dependent upon a Linux kernel >= 2.6.15 (>= 2.6.27 for Squeeze). Ask me about <70>, <udev squeeze>, <udev rules>, <udev details>, <.dev>, <dpin>. http://wiki.debian.org/udev http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html |
| 13:53.35 | kmonk | bbl |
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| 13:56.37 | gnoob | I want to "openoffice.org presentation.odp" but to open presentation in readonly mode.. is that possible? |
| 13:58.11 | gnoob | I could turn off oplock in sambashare I guess? but best thing would be if presentation was opened in readonly mode.. that way it wouldnt need to be "recovered" if quitted abnormally.. (?) any suggestions? |
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| 13:59.25 | blk | gnoob, `ooimpress -h' tells you you can do that with `ooimpress -view <documents...>' |
| 14:01.52 | martianlobster | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.12 | gnoob | blk: thanks, i do almost the same thing: added this to the .xsessionrc: "openoffice -show -headless presentation.odp " , but it "locks" the file so nobody else can open it.. everybody else need to open only as "read only". |
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| 14:03.52 | gnoob | maybe I should just change sambaconfig to "oplocks = no" ? |
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| 14:20.31 | thewanderer1 | hi, how to configure bluez-alsa? |
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| 14:21.32 | thewanderer1 | I want to use my Bluetooth headset as an audio output under Squeeze/Sid |
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| 14:23.09 | karmic-koala | hi all, when using enigmail in thunderbird to encrypt email the extension adds a comment to your signature (Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla). Any thoughts on how to change this text? |
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| 14:24.48 | thewanderer1 | karmic-koala: see the extension's preferences |
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| 14:25.36 | karmic-koala | thewanderer1, the extension's preference allows you to disable the comment completely, but i'll look again in case i missed the bit where i could change the comment text |
| 14:25.59 | thewanderer1 | karmic-koala: hm, so you wanted to change it. buf hey, if you disable it, you can still use your own signature... |
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| 14:28.40 | qwd | I have a 2tb hard drive which uses 4096 byte sectors. I want to format it and use it just as if it had been there during installation, with full disk encryption and LVM. What should I use for this, and how should I do it? What's used for encryption during installation? dm-crypt only? |
| 14:28.41 | karmic-koala | thewanderer1, and how would i add a custom line to my signature |
| 14:29.16 | karmic-koala | i mean the encryption key |
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| 14:30.30 | thewanderer1 | karmic-koala: hm, what? the signature text can be edited in Edit->Account config, but I have no idea how to add signatures per key |
| 14:31.05 | thewanderer1 | qwd: yeah, dm-crypt with LUKS using "cryptsetup" command |
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| 14:31.31 | karmic-koala | thewanderer1, yeah, that's what i am after custom signature for every key, |
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| 14:32.25 | thewanderer1 | karmic-koala: if you use only 1 key per mail account (you should normally do...) then you just configure per-account signatures |
| 14:33.38 | karmic-koala | will do :) thanks for your suggestion thewanderer1 |
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| 14:39.17 | thewanderer1 | so I installed PulseAudio. now what? how do I make it see my bluetooth devices? |
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| 14:51.50 | thewanderer1 | I seem to have pulseaudio running here, but it won't transmit any sound to my Nokia BH-900 Bluetooth headset |
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| 14:57.52 | pallgone | thewanderer1: bluetooth stinks |
| 14:58.15 | thewanderer1 | pallgone: so what should I use for wireless headphones? |
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| 14:59.24 | pallgone | thewanderer1: well, I have headphones that use a audio signal... have you tried without pulse? |
| 15:00.02 | thewanderer1 | pallgone: yes: aplay -D bluetooth /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav -c 1 returns "Unable to install hw params" |
| 15:00.25 | thewanderer1 | I'm using pcm.bluetooth (type plug) and pcm.bluetooth_hw (type bluetooth) |
| 15:01.05 | thewanderer1 | when I try this with bluetooth_hw, which is the real bluetooth device, I get "aplay: set_params:1059: Channels count non available" |
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| 15:02.18 | pallgone | as root? |
| 15:02.32 | thewanderer1 | no, as user |
| 15:02.43 | pallgone | yeah, same as root? |
| 15:02.46 | thewanderer1 | same |
| 15:03.43 | pallgone | I haven't fiddled with bluetooth much... maybe someone else can help... |
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| 15:04.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | I last fiddled with bluetooth 3 years ago... it was a pain and I finally used the already-obsolete bluez for a bluetooth-headset |
| 15:05.24 | thewanderer1 | no, bluez is not obsolete |
| 15:05.25 | qwd | Can someone explain how to setup my empty 2tb har drive in order for it to be as if it had been there during Debian installation? I want to use LVM, encryption, 4096 byte sectors and have it mounted at startup. |
| 15:05.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | it already was 3 years ago |
| 15:05.47 | thewanderer1 | CutMeOwnThroat: so what is the current bluetooth solution now? |
| 15:05.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | I forgot! |
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| 15:06.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 15:06.08 | thewanderer1 | it seems to me that it is this "bluetooth" vs. "bluez" package issue again |
| 15:06.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | or did I mix that up |
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| 15:06.28 | thewanderer1 | bluez wiki is offline, but that's another thing :P |
| 15:06.37 | pallgone | qwd: as additional drive? |
| 15:07.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | thewanderer1, the rechargeable battery of that headset was dead anyway... so I threw it away when moving :) |
| 15:07.17 | qwd | pallgone: yeah, not a system drive, just for music and stuff. |
| 15:07.31 | thewanderer1 | hmm great, I could hear some kind of sound now |
| 15:07.37 | thewanderer1 | it was noise, but... :P |
| 15:07.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | thewanderer1, but anything I still know will be outdated (hopefully, at least!) |
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| 15:08.28 | nkuttler | hrm, does somebody use an iceowl-l10n package? i'm getting a not compatible error for the language |
| 15:08.46 | thewanderer1 | hm, I've got to run, will try to make this bluez-alsa thing work when I get back |
| 15:09.09 | nkuttler | oh right, this is an unstable box, nm.. |
| 15:09.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | thewanderer1, whatever bluez-alsa is, I don't think it existed back then... |
| 15:09.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | gorn |
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| 15:17.42 | pallgone | qwd: hmm, http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/4096-physical-block-size-drives/ |
| 15:21.54 | qwd | pallgone: thanks, I'll read through it! |
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| 15:23.43 | wfq | hi guys |
| 15:24.32 | wfq | is it possible to install a old version of a package from Debian repositories? I can guess that it would cause may dependency problem, wouldn't it? |
| 15:24.49 | nsadmin | it could |
| 15:25.17 | nsadmin | but you could try getting the debianized source for it and build it on your machine |
| 15:25.31 | fxiny | which package ? |
| 15:25.46 | fxiny | i use some pretty old debs |
| 15:25.56 | nsadmin | if you succeed, you will have a package which depends on what you have |
| 15:26.02 | Zapadlo | Excuse me, Am I being thick or does Squeeze only have 1.1.42 wine version as a beta candidate? |
| 15:26.28 | nsadmin | , versions wine |
| 15:26.30 | judd | wine -- etch: 0.9.25-2.1; etch-backports: 1.0.0-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-3+b1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3+b1; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 15:26.48 | wfq | fxiny,nsadmin. I was thinking about installing opencv 1.0 |
| 15:26.49 | fxiny | that's one of of retarded packages i still use , wine |
| 15:27.09 | Zapadlo | Right, I've added another repo though... |
| 15:27.12 | abrotman | !tell wfq about sdo |
| 15:27.20 | nsadmin | Zapadlo: nowhere in debian is anything that new. |
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| 15:27.35 | Zapadlo | So I need to compile from source? |
| 15:27.46 | abrotman | Zapadlo: you oculd ask #winehq .. |
| 15:27.47 | nsadmin | the "another repo" you speak of is not in debian |
| 15:28.10 | Zapadlo | Its one on there how-to: http://www.lamaresh.net/apt squeeze main |
| 15:28.11 | wfq | abrotman, thanks for the link. |
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| 15:28.42 | abrotman | Zapadlo: we have nothing to do with those packages |
| 15:28.58 | Zapadlo | Fair enough, I'll go ask there, cheers |
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| 15:30.49 | fxiny | and it sill works fine in squeeze , i checked it yesterday : wine version 0.0.20041019-1 |
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| 15:36.43 | anddam | hi |
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| 15:37.37 | anddam | is there a way to see differences between two packages? |
| 15:38.03 | anddam | namely liblua5.1-wsapi-fcgi-0 and -1, I mean see difference before installing them |
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| 15:39.18 | Gijs | hey all |
| 15:39.21 | Gijs | Can anybody help me |
| 15:39.32 | Gijs | My sFTP is very slow on my server |
| 15:39.35 | Gijs | it doesnt even work |
| 15:39.42 | Gijs | if i connect with sFTP to my server :S |
| 15:39.45 | qacat | Gijs, that would be slow. |
| 15:39.55 | Gijs | what? |
| 15:39.57 | iceroot | anddam: apt-listbugs its showing the changelog befor installing |
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| 15:40.18 | iceroot | anddam: dont know if it is working with aptitude |
| 15:40.44 | anddam | in fact I don't have apt-listbugs |
| 15:41.01 | Gijs | Oke sorry, If i connect with sFTP to my machine/server then it times out and keeps connecting but it doesnt works. can anybody help me please |
| 15:41.12 | anddam | iceroot: "lists critical bugs" |
| 15:41.20 | themill | anddam: apt-listchanges will show you the maintainer's changelog. If you want more details, you'd have to download the two source packages and diff them yourself. |
| 15:41.40 | iceroot | anddam: apt-listchanges |
| 15:42.02 | anddam | is there a web interface for that? |
| 15:42.14 | anddam | to see commit log |
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| 15:42.29 | iceroot | anddam: why? you are using apt-get/aptitude from the cli, why need a web-interface? |
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| 15:42.49 | anddam | I don't _need_ I just prefer |
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| 15:43.35 | iceroot | anddam: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2_2.2.9-10+lenny8/changelog |
| 15:43.41 | iceroot | anddam: something like that you want? |
| 15:43.50 | anddam | something |
| 15:44.08 | iceroot | anddam: then you have it know with a web-interface :) |
| 15:44.10 | qacat | Gijs, well, that it *would* be slow transfer if it doesn't connect. and can you view error logs on the system (/var/log/messages and the like?) |
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| 15:45.53 | kevin009 | hey guys, I would like to install a program called cdemu in debian squeeze. there is no pre-built version in the repos, so I'm trying an ubuntu package |
| 15:45.55 | anddam | iceroot: I'm sorry I didn't get the "you have it know" |
| 15:46.06 | kevin009 | it fails because there is no package called libao2. any ideas? |
| 15:46.06 | iceroot | anddam: s/know/now |
| 15:46.10 | abrotman | kevin009: that's not likely to work |
| 15:46.20 | anddam | iceroot: now I do, thanks |
| 15:46.25 | anddam | I found what I wanted to know |
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| 15:46.51 | anddam | in lua-wsapi 1.1.0-3 * wsapi.cgi and wsapi.fcgi installed in /usr/bin, ready to be used ⦠|
| 15:46.54 | kevin009 | i had it working before, but there's an updated version. when I did a dist-upgrade, it wanted to remove libao2 and install libaocommon, which is where cdemu stopped working |
| 15:46.57 | abrotman | kevin009: squeeze has libao4, mixing ubuntu and debian is likely to result in crying |
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| 15:47.20 | kevin009 | lol i figured this is a dangerous thing to do |
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| 15:48.37 | kevin009 | but this is an audio library. why can't we just force and ignore it? an iso mounter really should not need such things |
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| 15:48.52 | abrotman | ask the person that packaged cdemu to update it |
| 15:48.58 | abrotman | or get the source package and do it yourself |
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| 15:49.28 | kevin009 | yeah i'll try building the daemon myself and see if it works. i think it failed when i tried before |
| 15:49.30 | abrotman | kevin009: oh, it's a PPA package? you're on your own probably |
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| 15:51.56 | abrotman | kevin009: are you sure there isn't another way to do this? like convert the bin/cue file to an ISO and mount that ? |
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| 15:55.49 | kevin009 | it is saying glib2.0 >= 2.6 isn't found. that must be installed on a squeeze machine right? it probably is looking in the wrong place |
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| 15:56.56 | abrotman | kevin009: i'ts not going to be supported here .. you'd probably do better to build it yourself |
| 15:57.21 | kevin009 | yeah i'm trying to compile the daemon and that's the message i get |
| 15:57.28 | kevin009 | not installing the ubuntu package anymore |
| 15:58.05 | amphi | kevin009: you have the -dev package installed? |
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| 15:59.15 | kevin009 | for glib? no i don't think so. sorry, don't compile much |
| 15:59.28 | kevin009 | i'll check that |
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| 16:00.26 | amphi | yoou'll need that - it has the headers and pkgconfig crap |
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| 16:01.37 | iceroot | is there a way to have one desktop on a monitor and unsing vnc, rdesktop, nxclient or something else on the same desktop with another resolution? |
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| 16:03.18 | cahoot | I think you can use xephyr for that |
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| 16:12.30 | qwd | Anyone know how I can check what size the sectors on my hard drive is? It should be using 4096 byte sectors but the hard disk itself apparently says 512. I've read that disk utility sets it up right somewhere (can't remember where) but I want to make sure that the encryption sed (created with disk utility) and ext4 both use 4096 byte sectors. |
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| 16:14.15 | Cisien | you're probably confused by the difference between physical and logical secotrs |
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| 16:16.04 | qwd | Cisien: That's very likely :) I know that the drive uses 4096 byte sectors and I've read that if the filesystem or any other part, like the encryption, uses 512 byte sectors it slows everything down. |
| 16:16.15 | JairunCaloth | whoh... this seems excessive |
| 16:16.17 | JairunCaloth | Current status: 3598 new |
| 16:16.24 | JairunCaloth | from aptitude update |
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| 16:16.49 | qwd | "hdparm -I /dev/sdb |grep size" shows "Logical/Physical Sector size: 512 bytes" |
| 16:16.59 | Cisien | qwd: the point is to match the filesystem sector size to what your hard drive has |
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| 16:17.41 | qwd | Cisien: yeah, that's what I want to see if I've done. |
| 16:18.04 | faheem | this is not really debian-specific, but i'm trying to use a machine whose kernel is oopsing. is there some way of stopping it writing messages to the screen? it's driving me mental |
| 16:18.06 | Cisien | my drive doesn't even list a sector size |
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| 16:18.43 | JairunCaloth | faheem: /etc/sysctl.conf I think |
| 16:19.30 | faheem | JairunCaloth: thanks |
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| 16:20.30 | JairunCaloth | debian has a line to uncomment, I don't remember the specifics, but I'm sure some googleing would reveal exactly how to set it up. |
| 16:20.37 | JairunCaloth | #kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3 |
| 16:20.59 | JairunCaloth | faheem: np :) |
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| 16:22.11 | stuckey | Hi all |
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| 16:22.32 | stuckey | Does anyone know how to backup email? I access it either through a browser or imap. |
| 16:22.54 | humbolt | how can I copy an MBR from one disk to the other? |
| 16:23.08 | faheem | JairunCaloth: i see it. thanks |
| 16:23.08 | amphi | dd |
| 16:23.16 | humbolt | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 |
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| 16:23.36 | humbolt | does this harm my partition table? |
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| 16:23.53 | faheem | humbolt: no. just reads it |
| 16:24.09 | abrotman | he means on the second drive |
| 16:24.18 | humbolt | faheem: on the disk I copy to! |
| 16:24.30 | faheem | humbolt: right, sorry |
| 16:25.26 | humbolt | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-backup-hard-disk-partition-table-mbr.html suggests the upper command also copies the partition table |
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| 16:26.36 | abrotman | it would, yes |
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| 16:26.56 | JairunCaloth | theoreticly you should be able to rebuild the partition table if you know the geometry. I've never tried it. |
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| 16:27.59 | DDRP | As long as you allocate the same number of blocks back to each partition and make sure you're not in DOS compatibility mode or vice versa, you should be OK in my experience |
| 16:28.08 | DDRP | I've used it before to resize the last partition on a disk |
| 16:28.09 | Gijs | People can anybody help me, i installed a sFTP plugin (PHP) on the server but it seems to crash when it is using the ssh2 / sftp |
| 16:28.23 | humbolt | I just found this, which seems to do the trick of copying the MBR only. dd if=mbrbackup of=/dev/sdb bs=446 count=1 |
| 16:28.23 | JairunCaloth | I would highly recommend making sure your data is backed up before you go mucking around with it. |
| 16:28.29 | DDRP | Not doing dd over the top though, just deleting and re-creating |
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| 16:28.52 | DDRP | Oh yeah, I took a snapshot in VMware before I deleted my partition |
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| 16:30.32 | nsadmin | !ops * Received a CTCP PING 1283099320 768760 from slocate (to #debian) |
| 16:30.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: nsadmin complains about: * Received a CTCP PING 1283099320 768760 from slocate (to #debian) |
| 16:30.49 | abrotman | nsadmin: who already quit ... |
| 16:30.56 | nsadmin | oh, didn't see that |
| 16:31.11 | fxiny | amphi: i'll look into it |
| 16:31.13 | fxiny | oops |
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| 16:33.13 | fxiny | problems with the partition table ? yesterday i saved my mbrs when installing squueze , today i managed to cleear my hda mbr , guess what ? a floppy grub + mbr backup saved my a* |
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| 16:33.54 | dvs | has never had to backup an MBR |
| 16:34.08 | fxiny | you keeping a hard copy print ? |
| 16:34.16 | dvs | nope |
| 16:34.21 | JairunCaloth | doesn't own a floppy drive |
| 16:34.28 | fxiny | i used to print it on woody |
| 16:34.49 | gnoob | guys, in ubuntu I install sun java like this: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts, what would be the lenny way? |
| 16:35.00 | humbolt | how does SATA hotplugging work in linux? |
| 16:35.01 | fxiny | JairunCaloth: i own : tomsrtbt , crk and trinux |
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| 16:35.31 | fxiny | editing trinux was a dream |
| 16:35.31 | CargolSS | so i installed pidgin-ppa for ubuntu on lenny and cant remove the damn thing |
| 16:35.47 | CargolSS | i get this error message: E: pidgin-ppa: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2 |
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| 16:36.24 | CargolSS | from synaptic |
| 16:36.26 | abrotman | why does anyone think that installing packages for ubuntu on debian is a good idea? |
| 16:36.34 | CargolSS | :D |
| 16:36.48 | dvs | we like work!!! |
| 16:37.10 | newsense | i just installed lenny and got the nvidia driver installed and loaded but i only get two low resolutions, before i got a new hdd the resolutions were detected fine |
| 16:37.31 | fxiny | and the error i made was : partimage restore /dev/hda image , forgot the 1 |
| 16:37.53 | newsense | tried adding a Modes "1024x768" line to xorg.conf but still the same resolutions are available |
| 16:38.17 | abrotman | newsense: which nvidia card? |
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| 16:38.23 | abrotman | and how did oyu install the driver? |
| 16:38.28 | newsense | abrotman: it's onboard 8200 geforce |
| 16:38.33 | abrotman | !tell gnoob about install java |
| 16:38.37 | newsense | abrotman: nvidia run file |
| 16:38.45 | newsense | abrotman: proprietary driver |
| 16:39.09 | newsense | abrotman: i have used it for years with this computer until my hdd crashed it always worked flawlessly |
| 16:39.25 | newsense | same driver version i was running too and also on squeeze |
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| 16:40.42 | newsense | abrotman: only differce was i used the squeeze alpha1 netinst, last time i upgraded to squeeze after install from a lenny netinst |
| 16:40.54 | abrotman | that shouldn't matter |
| 16:41.06 | newsense | i didn't think so |
| 16:41.09 | abrotman | except, you've just said you're using lenny now, not squeeze |
| 16:41.20 | newsense | no i am using squeeze |
| 16:42.15 | Bushmills | is ncftp the tool for automatical and unattended uploads of files through ftp, or is there a better, maybe lighter, choice? |
| 16:42.33 | Quibus | lftp? |
| 16:42.36 | fxiny | i use lftp |
| 16:42.41 | acu | I have a laptop with eth0 (NIC) and eth1 (wireless) - if I am not in the wired network - the eth1 (wifi) works fine - except that I cannot go to my public IP address (where the eth0(NIC) is configured) - it is somehow weird - I can browse anything in internet, but I cannot connect to my public IP address |
| 16:42.46 | Bushmills | thanks, i'll check it out |
| 16:43.04 | abrotman | newsense: look in your Xorg.0.log for some issue ? |
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| 16:43.35 | newsense | abrotman: ok let me look |
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| 16:45.28 | newsense | abrotman: i see something about "unable to validate any modes. falling back to the default mode" |
| 16:45.47 | Cisien | how bad would it be (on the system health) to toss the squeeze paths into sources.list and dist_upgrade? |
| 16:46.02 | abrotman | newsense: how did you install X ? |
| 16:46.10 | abrotman | Cisien: does your job depend on it ? |
| 16:46.17 | xoz | /msg dpkg help |
| 16:46.25 | newsense | abrotman: aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-nvidia |
| 16:46.29 | abrotman | wrong |
| 16:46.33 | abrotman | newsense: aptitude install xorg |
| 16:46.47 | Cisien | abrotman, hah, naw, just a home router |
| 16:46.49 | newsense | abrotman: also says it can't find my crt's edid |
| 16:46.55 | newsense | not sure what that is |
| 16:46.59 | newsense | never heard of it |
| 16:47.00 | nsadmin | Cisien: router? why upgrade? is it working? |
| 16:47.04 | abrotman | Cisien: up to you, security issues are there |
| 16:47.11 | nsadmin | does it run anything besides routing? |
| 16:47.14 | newsense | abrotman: ok thanks will try that |
| 16:47.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | acu, usually your router has the public IP, not you... |
| 16:47.30 | Cisien | abrotman, if it works, break it? |
| 16:47.45 | fxiny | Cisien: done a quick upgrade yesterday with aptitude just to see : better then exth2lenny |
| 16:47.52 | fxiny | etch* |
| 16:47.58 | Cisien | nice |
| 16:48.02 | nsadmin | curious about those questions... but mostly, Cisien, why? |
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| 16:48.13 | Cisien | i did etch to lenny on my vps box without trouble |
| 16:48.33 | nsadmin | it will probably go well. |
| 16:48.34 | Cisien | nsadmin, ipv6 support is better in many of the newer packages in squeeze |
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| 16:49.03 | nsadmin | does your isp do ipv6>? |
| 16:49.15 | Cisien | soon, i'm on the trail for comcast's ipv6 |
| 16:49.44 | Quibus | How can I run a process on only 1 CPU? |
| 16:49.45 | acu | CutMeOwnThroat, no, that is a computer connected to a bridge - so it is in the public - now I am away from that place - My laptop cannot access that IP - while another computer can - so it is definitely a setting which prohibits me to access that network |
| 16:50.12 | acu | CutMeOwnThroat, a setting in my laptop |
| 16:50.17 | nsadmin | ok, so you actually do have a reason... |
| 16:50.27 | nsadmin | still as mentioned, it's up to you |
| 16:50.28 | Cisien | :) |
| 16:50.28 | themill | Quibus: taskset |
| 16:51.07 | abrotman | Quibus: did you find the issue ? |
| 16:51.26 | Quibus | abrotman: not at all |
| 16:51.39 | abrotman | yay |
| 16:51.45 | nsadmin | I would recommend that you copy your current stuff to a separate set of partitions and then upgrade one of those |
| 16:52.15 | nsadmin | ("stuff" meaning your entire hd containing your whole os and everything installed on it) |
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| 16:52.27 | abrotman | huh ? |
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| 16:52.36 | newsense | abrotman: ok installed xorg but still the same resolution and errors |
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| 16:52.57 | abrotman | newsense: same error ? |
| 16:53.11 | nsadmin | then at least you'd have a way back if you were to choose to go there |
| 16:53.15 | Quibus | abrotman: it even triggers when running on one CPU |
| 16:53.16 | newsense | abrotman: yeah, looks like it's my monitor |
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| 16:53.36 | jozefk | anybody has debian on ibook g4? i'm qurious how well it works and how long it takes to install it and configure |
| 16:53.36 | newsense | abrotman: can't detect modes for some reason, same monitor i always used too |
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| 16:55.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | acu, I'm saying it's not clear what setup you describe... but first thing you might look at is the output of /sbin/route -n |
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| 16:56.20 | Gijs | People can anybody help me, i installed a sFTP plugin (PHP) on the server but it seems to crash when it is using the ssh2 / sftp |
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| 16:57.38 | s5s | Hey guys I've been a log user of Debian and an Ubuntu hater (lol) and refused to use it. Anyway debian doesn't work for me currently because there is some problem with radeon - it completely crashes. I tried fedora but althought the driver is working the screen is flickering. So... I had to install Ubuntu. Still it looks ok. Remind me please why we hate it |
| 16:57.59 | acu | CutMeOwnThroat, let me see now - because I disabled eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:58.59 | krisfremen | s5s: that's weird, which radeon? and lemme guess squeeze? |
| 16:59.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | s5s, we do not, we're all a huge big happy family |
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| 16:59.58 | Gijs | hey all |
| 17:00.01 | Gijs | help me |
| 17:00.01 | Gijs | http://pastebin.com/DFM8g7LR |
| 17:00.04 | Gijs | how to fix this? |
| 17:00.06 | Cisien | how far out from release is squeeze, anyway? |
| 17:00.12 | Gijs | i got this while i ran: apt-get install nmap |
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| 17:00.45 | s5s | krisfremen: I'll tell you in a while; my mother called :) |
| 17:01.03 | dvs | Gijs: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:01.04 | hagabaka | how can I build a deb package from a git repository like git://git.debian.org/pkg-kde/kde-sc/kdebindings.git? |
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| 17:02.49 | Cisien | comcast powerboost is just blowing away the smaller packages in this dist-upgrade. 5mByte downloads! |
| 17:02.55 | Gijs | http://pastebin.com/3CTyFSbq |
| 17:03.00 | Gijs | to what i need to change it? |
| 17:03.16 | peterrooney | Cisien: "wir, siyn" |
| 17:03.32 | dvs | Gijs: delete line 4 (and 2) |
| 17:03.33 | peterrooney | Cisien: sorry, "wir, siyh" |
| 17:03.39 | Cisien | peterrooney, umm....what? |
| 17:03.47 | peterrooney | !wir |
| 17:03.47 | dpkg | wir is probably When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>. |
| 17:03.57 | Cisien | ahh |
| 17:04.15 | Cisien | i didn't know if there was some kind of deadline in place yet, or not. |
| 17:04.19 | Gijs | thanks |
| 17:04.41 | humbolt | echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/scan scans for new sata disks on sata host0, how do I scan on all hosts? |
| 17:04.42 | dvs | np |
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| 17:06.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cisien, there never is... it releases when all release critical bugs are gone |
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| 17:06.58 | Cisien | that's cool |
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| 17:07.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... or have been declared not release-critical :-P |
| 17:08.11 | pallgone | CutMeOwnThroat: well, it was planned to have a cycle AFAIK... but I guess that has been abandoned |
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| 17:08.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | pallgone, no, the cycle was planned for the freeze-dates, not for the release-dates |
| 17:09.03 | pallgone | CutMeOwnThroat: ok, so this is still valid then? |
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| 17:10.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | pallgone, no idea - it definitely got screwed for this release.... it was planned to freeze December 2009 - the plan was to have a 2-year cycle, whcih would help derivatives like Ubuntu plan (and actually sync with the 6-month cycle of ubuntu) |
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| 17:11.06 | Cisien | wonders how much stuff will break |
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| 17:11.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | pallgone, http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 |
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| 17:12.59 | amanita_ | Hi, any advice for a screen capture to video program, I want to record an app in xfce into ogg theora or mpg |
| 17:13.04 | qwd | Does this look sane? I'm hoping this will give me 4096 byte sectors and aes-128 encryption. --> cryptsetup -y -v --cipher aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 --key-size 128 -b 4096 luksFormat /dev/sdb1 |
| 17:13.13 | Rayon-3 | Hi Guys, I am using debian lenny 5.0. I want to configure it as a server (web, mail, database, ftp). Please suggest me some documentation. |
| 17:13.52 | iceroot | Rayon-3: a lamp-tutorial is a good start if you want a webserver with mysql and php |
| 17:14.30 | Rayon-3 | okay thanks. I will start with it. |
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| 17:14.40 | thewanderer1 | Rayon-3: http://ispconfig.org - you get the v3 package, install it and it does its magic, and you learn from there |
| 17:14.48 | beardy | amanita_: vlc perhaps, not sure if you can write to a file, but I'd think so. |
| 17:15.21 | fxiny | qwd: donot know about 4096 byte sector , i use : cryptsetup -y -s 256 -c aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 luksFormat /dev/ice |
| 17:15.29 | Rayon-3 | thanks thewanderer1 and iceroot. :-) |
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| 17:16.31 | qwd | fxiny: accordign to http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/ "-b <size> (in sectors) |
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| 17:17.07 | qwd | can someone confirm this will give me what I think it will? |
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| 17:17.36 | eshat | chromium is a great browser but is it right stop supporting a great projekt like firefox/mozilla ? |
| 17:17.38 | qwd | (that is, 4096 byte sectors on the encryption, to fit my 4096 byte sector hard drive) |
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| 17:19.20 | Rayon-3 | I got "The Perfect Server - Debian Lenny (Debian 5.0) [ISPConfig 3]" in internet. Is this correct way to configure debian server ??? |
| 17:19.55 | fxiny | qwd: --size, b -> is in the manual |
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| 17:20.14 | fxiny | but in sector |
| 17:20.25 | pallgone | qwd: btw, do you know why they need to do this 4k stretch for 2TB disks? |
| 17:20.25 | thewanderer1 | Rayon-3: better see the original ispconfig website - ISPConfig is automagic so you don't need a tutorial :P |
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| 17:21.15 | Rayon-3 | Oh.. okay. |
| 17:21.16 | qwd | pallgone: there's an article at http://hothardware.com/Articles/WDs-1TB-Caviar-Green-w-Advanced-Format-Windows-XP-Users-Pay-Attention/ about it |
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| 17:22.52 | lord_rob | eshat: personally I'm using both atm |
| 17:23.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | amanita_, recordmydesktop? never tried that, though ... there's wossname... dammit... kind of the gold standard in that regard... and I'll remember the name any century now |
| 17:23.14 | lord_rob | both are running simultaneously |
| 17:23.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | amanita_, xvidcap |
| 17:23.51 | eshat | lord_rob: but hwat do you need both for ? |
| 17:23.56 | lord_rob | eshat: chromium doesn't work with flash on amd64 |
| 17:24.09 | lord_rob | for example |
| 17:24.11 | eshat | lord_rob: it does for me... I just manually installed the plugin |
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| 17:24.25 | qwd | Does LVM have anything to do with sector sizes? Or do I just set it up as normal and make sure ext4 has 4096 byte sectors? |
| 17:24.37 | thewanderer1 | hint: chromium supports HTML5 :P |
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| 17:25.15 | lord_rob | well wait for ff4 |
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| 17:25.40 | lord_rob | maybe you'll say is it useful to keep chrome ? |
| 17:25.45 | reisi | is there a way to setup a server having it's own MTA software for local delivery only but to relay emails using an ISP smtp account? |
| 17:25.45 | gnoob | firefox too (webm atleast i think).. not just the h264 codec.. but the world is a better place without it, so I hope H264 dies :) |
| 17:25.46 | lord_rob | :) |
| 17:25.50 | pallgone | qwd: right, thanks for the link. |
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| 17:27.06 | eshat | gnoob: well the technical side of h264 is great, it is just that it is not free |
| 17:27.27 | lord_rob | gnoob: everybody does hope the dead of h264 but ... |
| 17:27.40 | amanita_ | Anyone knows a good screen recorder for Lenny? (capture to video) |
| 17:27.44 | lord_rob | did ogg replace mp3 ? :D |
| 17:28.08 | kevin009 | any clue why my geforce 7600 memory clock is only 270 and the higher timing modes don't show in nvidia-settings? should I install the drivers from unstable on this testing machine? |
| 17:28.33 | kevin009 | i checked dmesg | grep nvidia and saw no errors |
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| 17:28.52 | gnoob | ogg:) I wish it did, but flac is truly awesome,, though a bit heavier :) |
| 17:28.56 | nooper | reisi: yes, almost all MTAs have a method of doing that |
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| 17:29.23 | reisi | nooper: great, do you know if theres a name for this kind of operation? |
| 17:29.36 | reisi | nooper: as in something to google with :) |
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| 17:30.17 | Cisien | yay! running squeeze now |
| 17:30.24 | nooper | reisi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_host |
| 17:30.31 | amanita_ | Cisien: testing? |
| 17:30.38 | nooper | or just 'smarthost' |
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| 17:30.56 | Cisien | not really... my goal is better ipv6 support on the newer packages |
| 17:31.03 | Cisien | shorewall6 for example |
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| 17:33.21 | thewanderer1 | Cisien: when you get shorewall6 running with OpenVZ, let me know... Squeeze is very impaired without this... |
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| 17:34.39 | Cisien | thewanderer1, i don't use openvz |
| 17:34.58 | thewanderer1 | yeah, apparently nobody cares about this deficiency, which in practice makes OpenVZ in Debian a huge obstacle in implementing IPv6... |
| 17:35.38 | fxiny | Cisien: which version is squeeze shorewall ? |
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| 17:36.03 | thewanderer1 | fxiny: 4.4.11.2-1 |
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| 17:36.07 | Cisien | fxiny 4.4.11.2-1 |
| 17:36.25 | MacGyver_ | thewanderer1: I'm going to be using OpenVZ, but I missed this "deficiency" you were talking about, care to repeat it? |
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| 17:36.55 | fxiny | lenny : 4.4.11.3-1~bpo50+1 courtesy of Roberto -> deb http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/debian/ lenny main |
| 17:37.05 | thewanderer1 | MacGyver_: yes, the deficiency is IPv6 - OpenVZ and IPv6 don't play nice together at all and in Debian you can't use netfilter with IPv6 when running OpenVZ |
| 17:37.10 | thewanderer1 | so no IPv6 firewalling at all |
| 17:37.27 | MacGyver_ | Is this because of the venet-interfaces? |
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| 17:38.03 | MacGyverNL | Or does it also occur on veth-enabled VE's? |
| 17:38.05 | thewanderer1 | MacGyver_: I have no idea - my bug report to bugs.debian.org was rejected because it's not DD's problem |
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| 17:38.47 | MacGyverNL | Well, it's well known that the default venet-interfaces don't support IPv6 correctly -- it's in all the docs I've read. |
| 17:38.48 | thewanderer1 | MacGyverNL: IPv6 conntrack and several IPv6 netfilter modules are not available in Debian's OpenVZ kernels |
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| 17:38.56 | MacGyverNL | Right. |
| 17:39.03 | MacGyverNL | I'll have to check that. |
| 17:39.05 | thewanderer1 | I know they do not, but OpenVZ actually *breaks* IPv6 |
| 17:39.08 | MacGyverNL | Thanks for the heads up, I guess. |
| 17:39.33 | jhutchins_lt2 | thewanderer1: Sounds like an openvz problem to me. VM's should be able to run stock kernels. |
| 17:39.38 | s5s | krisfremen: radeon in squeeze just crashes. I don't know why. I have ATI X1400 and it doesn't work at all. The computer never boots |
| 17:39.40 | thewanderer1 | I haven't been able to compile an OpenVZ kernel in Debian, anyway (from the packages) - too much cruft for me |
| 17:40.37 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins_lt2: OpenVZ has nothing to do with virtual machines, and the OpenVZ kernel (shared by Debian host and various guests, tested on Debian by me so far) doesn't have / doesn't support IPv6 conntrack, which makes firewalling impossible in IPv6 |
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| 17:41.48 | thewanderer1 | it's not really virtualization, it's more like Linux Containers and cgroups with insane amounts of hacks |
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| 17:42.27 | thewanderer1 | and yeah, both the host system and the guest systems are affected... |
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| 17:42.58 | Cisien | xen :p |
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| 17:44.46 | thewanderer1 | no, Xen is for a slightly different purpose/use case than OpenVZ, so I can not just replace that |
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| 17:45.12 | thewanderer1 | besides, the virtualization overhead is a thing I'm not going to accept |
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| 17:46.52 | Patina | Trying to start xscreensaver, but all I get is "Tjeck yout $PATH and permissions". |
| 17:46.59 | Patina | How do I solve this? |
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| 17:48.42 | jelly-home | Patina: which debian release, version of xscreensaver command? What is the actual command you're trying to run? |
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| 17:51.16 | Patina | xscreensaver is 5.05, debian lenny and trying to run xscreensaver-demo. |
| 17:52.05 | Patina | Debian is installed with debootstrap. |
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| 18:01.00 | stuckey | hi |
| 18:01.04 | stuckey | Does anyone here know how to use imapcopy to backup email? |
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| 18:08.16 | jelly-home | Patina: is this a chroot? If it is, do other X11 command work? |
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| 18:12.01 | Cisien | looks like a LOT of stuff is different (boot scripts, grub, etc) |
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| 18:15.06 | Cisien | so, in squeeze, is there a different utility that replaces update-rc.d for modifying services? |
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| 18:16.37 | Cisien | or is this now expected output: http://pastebin.com/eQh4kJbh |
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| 18:21.12 | thewanderer1 | Cisien: this is the expected output |
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| 18:23.45 | nebukad | hi |
| 18:24.29 | Florian_weber | Hello, I'm trying to load a frame of a video with opencv 2, but I get the message "No accelerated colorspace conversion found." for every frame. It seems to be that way, that this is caused by ffmpeg. Does anyone know a solution? (I'm using squeeze amd64 (btw: a ubuntuuser (10.04) sitting next to me has the same problem)) |
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| 18:27.04 | nebukad | Kann ntfs-3G dazu fuehren, dass , einige Tage nachdem alles fluessgi lief, das System voellig instabil laeuft und daurnd crasht oder beim booten haengt und kernel panic hat auch wenn die ntfs-platten schonwieder aus der fstab rausgenommen wurden? |
| 18:27.11 | stockholm | is there a way to dist-upgrade a system that has only little free disk space available? |
| 18:27.19 | X-Raimo | hello. Is package linux-image-2.6-amd64 is kernel itself? |
| 18:27.46 | amphi | it's a virtual package that points to the latest kernel version, I believe |
| 18:27.48 | stockholm | to only downlaod and install the packages in small batches and install those, then rinse & repeat? |
| 18:29.18 | nebukad | is it possible that using ntfs-3g makes a sstem completely intable and makes it freeze sometimes during reboot oder crash and have kernel panic even though the ntfs-volumes ahve been taken out of the fstab already? (latest amd64 net-install image) |
| 18:31.47 | fxiny | stockholm: no space in home ? |
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| 18:32.55 | jelly-home | nebukad: no, not really |
| 18:36.19 | stew | stockholm: can you put Dir::Cache on a removable drive for the upgrade? |
| 18:36.52 | Patina | jelly-home: It's a diskless with Window Maker. Any particular X11 command? |
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| 18:37.28 | jelly-home | Patina: anything. xdpyinfo, xeyes, whatever |
| 18:37.34 | jelly-home | open a terminal |
| 18:38.03 | cheasee | im creating xfs on a raid5 out of 8 disks, ive read on a forum, mkfs.xfs optimizes for software raids (mdadm im using) but it doesnt seem so, default tells: sunit=0 swidth=0 blks how do i know what settings i should use to improve performance? manpage is rather short on that |
| 18:38.26 | Patina | xeyes works fine. |
| 18:38.30 | jelly-home | cheasee: there's an #xfs channel |
| 18:38.43 | cheasee | heh ok :) |
| 18:39.03 | cheasee | nice, didnt know |
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| 18:39.13 | jelly-home | cheasee: /msg dpkg xfs |
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| 18:39.32 | cheasee | !tell cheasee about xfs |
| 18:40.20 | Gijs | i got this while i ran: apt-get install nmap |
| 18:40.22 | Gijs | oeps |
| 18:40.50 | stockholm | stew: no, this is a remote server |
| 18:40.51 | jelly-home | Patina: I presume no xscreensaver process is running at present? What happens if you try start if from xscreensaver-command -prefs ? |
| 18:41.06 | stockholm | stew: no nearby server either |
| 18:41.19 | abrotman | stockholm: sshfs? ... it would be slow |
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| 18:42.00 | stockholm | that would be a last resort i guess |
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| 18:42.13 | Patina | jelly-home: Same as when running xscreensaver-demo; did not start properly, check $PATH and permissions. |
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| 18:44.27 | jelly-home | Patina: oh well. you could strace xscreensaver and see what it's trying and failing to access |
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| 18:46.55 | stack | hi,does anyone knows why ikiwiki recommends gcc or c-compiler? |
| 18:47.11 | jozefk | do I need both of these or only one? debian-505-powerpc-DVD-1.iso & debian-update-5.0.5-powerpc-DVD-1.iso |
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| 18:47.19 | jozefk | if one, which one? |
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| 18:47.59 | pfuender | jozefk, what do you want to do with it? |
| 18:48.14 | jozefk | to do a fresh install for the first time |
| 18:48.38 | jelly-home | jozefk: just the first one. |
| 18:48.50 | jozefk | thanks :) |
| 18:48.53 | pfuender | jozefk, then of course the debian-505-powerpc-DVD-1.iso the other has 'update' in it, and I think it only contains some deb-packages |
| 18:49.04 | pfuender | but no installer.. |
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| 18:49.13 | jozefk | update for 505? |
| 18:49.30 | jozefk | or update for some previous versions? |
| 18:49.50 | pfuender | update for previous versions |
| 18:50.26 | jozefk | ok so I don't need that at all |
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| 18:51.09 | sergio | salve |
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| 18:52.03 | abrotman | sergio: english here |
| 18:53.04 | pfuender | stockholm, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | awk ' { print $1 } ' | xargs -n1 -I{} bash -c 'sudo apt-get upgrade {} && sudo apt-get clean' |
| 18:53.21 | pfuender | stockholm, quick and dirty, but should work... ;-) |
| 18:53.32 | abrotman | how does that help? |
| 18:54.11 | pfuender | abrotman, asking me? |
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| 18:55.24 | Patina | jelly-home: That is difficult since, pressing any button or moving the mouse creates ~50 lines per second. |
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| 18:55.48 | Patina | Think I'll leave it as it is. |
| 18:55.54 | Patina | Thanks anyway. |
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| 18:56.47 | Terminus- | hello. question, is it possible to use a usb to usb connection as a serial console? |
| 18:57.07 | jelly-home | Patina: you'll have to use -ooutputfile option for strace, also -f / -ff is useful |
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| 18:58.38 | jelly-home | pfuender: I think you meant "apt-get install ..." instead of "apt-get upgrade ..." |
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| 18:59.30 | jelly-home | pfuender: a similar hack based on "/msg dpkg aptitude clone" would probably be nicer |
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| 19:00.31 | I_Died_Once | so after i upgraded to squeeze, one of my drives wont back back up |
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| 19:01.03 | pfuender | jelly-home, got me.. 'apt-get install' of course. ;-) |
| 19:01.10 | Wipped | Help me, i have to put this: route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev ppp0 << somewhere but i dont know where. If i just type it in console i get error. |
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| 19:01.42 | jelly-home | Wipped: where do you set up that ppp0 line? |
| 19:01.46 | SineDeviance | Wipped: i beliveve you want ifconfig |
| 19:02.09 | SineDeviance | Wipped: an easier way is to just edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:02.17 | SineDeviance | add the relevant info |
| 19:02.18 | Wipped | jelly: i dont understand what you say. |
| 19:02.28 | SineDeviance | and replace dhcp with static |
| 19:02.31 | Wipped | Sine: you sure it works? |
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| 19:02.48 | jelly-home | Wipped: "ppp0" is a network interface. Where and how do you set it up / make it work / enable it? |
| 19:02.54 | SineDeviance | Wipped: yes. i run a similar config on my server |
| 19:03.21 | Wipped | Jelly: i think Sine just helped me out |
| 19:03.27 | gnoob | hmm Im having problems with samba not starting on startup.. I put it into the rc.local file too, still doesnt start up. any suggestions? I use mingetty --autologon instead of getty.. and seems like that caused the problem |
| 19:03.30 | Wipped | Sine: ill try |
| 19:03.40 | Wipped | ifconfig |
| 19:03.42 | jelly-home | *shrug* |
| 19:03.46 | Wipped | :O wrong place |
| 19:03.53 | SineDeviance | Wipped: as an example, my eth0 section is like this --> iface eth0 inet static |
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| 19:04.19 | SineDeviance | Wipped: for yours, change it to --> iface ppp0 inet static |
| 19:04.26 | SineDeviance | and fill in the relevant settings below that |
| 19:04.27 | Wipped | Sine i see, |
| 19:04.44 | SineDeviance | Wipped: this is in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:04.48 | jelly-home | SineDeviance: that won't work for reasons that are soon going to become obvious. |
| 19:04.49 | SineDeviance | you dont change this via commandline |
| 19:05.02 | SineDeviance | jelly-home: why wont it work? |
| 19:05.03 | Wipped | ppp0 is my vpn client and that ip is my lan |
| 19:05.26 | Wipped | if there is no client there is no ppp0 |
| 19:05.29 | jelly-home | SineDeviance: because his pppd is created in some other way. |
| 19:05.40 | Wipped | so it has to start when the client connects |
| 19:05.46 | SineDeviance | oh. well, good luck then, i guess |
| 19:05.57 | Wipped | ty ill try some stuff |
| 19:06.04 | phorce1_home | so, what would cause a drive to be detected and assigned a letter when connected through a USB adapter but not when connected using an eSATA->SATA cable? When I connect it with the SATA cable the hard drive light (on the main computer) flashes like it's "looking for a new device" but there are no entries in syslog or dmesg. SATA should be hotplug, right? |
| 19:06.14 | jelly-home | whcih brings us back to "how do you start your ppp0" |
| 19:06.16 | phorce1_home | (Lenny) |
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| 19:06.33 | SineDeviance | phorce1_home: eSATA is hotplug, SATA is not. |
| 19:07.09 | SineDeviance | phorce1_home: but yes, a regular SATA cable plugged into an eSATA port should work. it's probably a missing driver module, considering you're on lenny. |
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| 19:07.39 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: does you controller explicitely support eSATA, or did you merely hopefully plug a SATA<->eSATA connector board? |
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| 19:08.08 | SineDeviance | panopticon: i'm listening to you right now |
| 19:08.20 | SineDeviance | <-- isis - panopticon |
| 19:08.20 | I_Died_Once | root@w3502:/home/death# mount UUID=426c0321-92b6-4dd5-81df-f0f2a46a8402 |
| 19:08.20 | I_Died_Once | mount: special device UUID=426c0321-92b6-4dd5-81df-f0f2a46a8402 does not exist |
| 19:08.27 | I_Died_Once | eek, sorry |
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| 19:09.18 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: Actually, I plugged a SATA->eSATA *cable* into a regular SATA port on the MB then connected the eSATA end of it to the drive. Guess it's the MB because I've done the same on my other machine and it "just worked". Assumed it would here too |
| 19:10.21 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: yeah, it can be the controller, and it can be the driver in question. It'll work on boot but I suspect that's not good enough |
| 19:11.36 | phorce1_home | since there are no eSATA ports on this MB at all it probably doesn't support it. Yuck. I don't want to have to reboot to use the drive and USB is so slow when compared to eSATA |
| 19:11.55 | I_Died_Once | how can i fix a superblock on a hard drive? |
| 19:12.01 | I_Died_Once | i think its a superblock.... |
| 19:12.17 | I_Died_Once | i cant mount and access info on a hard drive that was just working.... |
| 19:12.57 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: you could treat the controller as just another scsi controller and ask it to rescan its bus |
| 19:13.26 | I_Died_Once | the offending entry in the fstab is here: http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/ibvaTWL7 |
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| 19:13.34 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: another option is to hibernate and resume the machine instead of merely rebooting |
| 19:13.42 | d1b | I_Died_Once: what is the actual problem? |
| 19:13.44 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: hmmmm. sg-tools? |
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| 19:13.47 | simplechat | d1b, they see me operating my automobile. They are prejudiced. |
| 19:13.58 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, try one of the other superblocks. |
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| 19:14.08 | edulix | hi |
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| 19:14.31 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: echo '- - -' > /sys/class/scsi_host/hostXXX/scan |
| 19:14.38 | edulix | what's the best way to install python 2.6 in debian lenny? |
| 19:14.54 | jelly-home | IIRC. I probably don't |
| 19:14.59 | I_Died_Once | http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/LHyAkf6m |
| 19:15.04 | I_Died_Once | tells me it doesnt exist |
| 19:15.20 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: found the instruction right after asking. ---> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-rescan-a-scsi-bus-without-rebooting |
| 19:15.23 | I_Died_Once | when i look at it in one of kde's partition programs, i see the drive but it cant give me info on the partitions |
| 19:15.29 | I_Died_Once | the drives have info i need to get |
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| 19:15.37 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, try using the /dev/sdX instead of the uuid |
| 19:15.39 | I_Died_Once | it was just working before i upgraded |
| 19:15.41 | d1b | I_Died_Once: what if yo utry to mount /dev/hdb1 |
| 19:15.53 | d1b | pfuender: nar its /dev/hdb1 apparently |
| 19:15.57 | d1b | I_Died_Once: are you on squeeze? |
| 19:16.09 | d1b | also I_Died_Once use ext3 .... |
| 19:16.13 | I_Died_Once | yes, squeeze |
| 19:16.25 | d1b | ah right so it is now under /dev/sdX iirc |
| 19:16.33 | gnoob | update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/samba missing LSB information... anyone knows what this means :\ samba is put in all rcX.d's |
| 19:16.42 | I_Died_Once | http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/Xc3QEbMe |
| 19:17.06 | d1b | I_Died_Once: you need to specify a location |
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| 19:17.36 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, "fdisk -l /dev/hdb" output please :-D |
| 19:17.36 | I_Died_Once | tells me the special device doesnt exist |
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| 19:17.49 | d1b | I_Died_Once: and /dev/sdb |
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| 19:18.07 | I_Died_Once | fdisk -l /dev/hdb gives no output |
| 19:18.18 | I_Died_Once | i hit enter and it does nothing |
| 19:18.29 | jelly-home | gnoob: it's a harmless warning |
| 19:18.31 | pfuender | and fdisk -l in general? |
| 19:18.44 | I_Died_Once | ahhhh one sec |
| 19:18.45 | pfuender | or sudo fdisk -l XX |
| 19:18.47 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: slow process since I don't know which host the drive is on yet |
| 19:18.50 | jelly-home | gnoob: which debian release are you using? |
| 19:19.00 | nebukad | hi, wheres the best place to look for logs that tell me the reason for a crash? /var/log/sylog is a little overwhelming |
| 19:19.08 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: so rescan them all |
| 19:19.13 | I_Died_Once | http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/2AdqDaqb |
| 19:19.20 | gnoob | jelly-home: ok :) Lenny. Cant make samba autostart :\ pretty strange |
| 19:19.38 | d1b | I_Died_Once: perhaps itis /dev/sdi2 |
| 19:19.50 | jelly-home | gnoob: that warning is not the cause, nor it is pointing to one. Inspect the logs. |
| 19:19.55 | petemc | nebukad: syslog, just go to the time around when the crash happened, messages may be useful too |
| 19:19.58 | I_Died_Once | no, sdi is a usb device |
| 19:19.58 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, how big is the disk you're trying to mound? |
| 19:20.04 | I_Died_Once | 111 gigs |
| 19:20.06 | I_Died_Once | right about |
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| 19:20.14 | d1b | ok |
| 19:20.20 | I_Died_Once | its an IDE hard drive |
| 19:20.21 | d1b | and /dev/sdb3 ? |
| 19:20.23 | gnoob | jelly-home ok, ill do that.. ouch.. why did I turn of logging in samba :p |
| 19:20.27 | jelly-home | gnoob: also, I don't think that warning should even happen on lenny. |
| 19:20.32 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, try mounting sdc1 then. |
| 19:20.56 | I_Died_Once | ount /dev/sdc1 |
| 19:20.56 | I_Died_Once | mount: can't find /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 19:21.04 | nebukad | petemc, ok i will check as soon as the machine is up again . because its been stuck for a couple hours now after the crash.. |
| 19:21.08 | pfuender | mount /dev/sdc1 /media/test |
| 19:21.59 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, or mount /dev/sdc1 /incoming |
| 19:22.00 | d1b | pfuender: he needs to make it first ;) |
| 19:22.13 | I_Died_Once | http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/9K2SpQ4p |
| 19:22.15 | gnoob | jelly-home, well it did :P but I have done some editing on the configuration: use mingetty on tty1 for autologin and .profile file does: startx, .xsessionrc runs "xset s off" and start a open office presentation to loop |
| 19:22.15 | pfuender | d1b, just though about that ;-) |
| 19:22.25 | nebukad | petemc, can a hard reset cause permanent damage to the OS? |
| 19:22.38 | d1b | I_Died_Once: interesting |
| 19:22.49 | I_Died_Once | so should i edit the fstab? |
| 19:22.50 | d1b | less -f /dev/sdc1 anything useful? |
| 19:22.53 | d1b | I_Died_Once: nope |
| 19:22.59 | d1b | put -t ext2 maybe |
| 19:23.00 | jelly-home | gnoob: it's a kiosk! :O |
| 19:23.03 | amphi | nebukad: can you do alt-sysrq-s alt-sysrq-u alt-sysrq-b ? |
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| 19:23.12 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, sudo file -s /dev/sdc1 |
| 19:23.13 | petemc | nebukad: its possible that some files or databases may be corrupt, but you could be ok |
| 19:23.24 | d1b | pfuender: is that a good idea? |
| 19:23.24 | nebukad | amphi, sorry its a remote system of a friend |
| 19:23.32 | nebukad | its stuck right now and hes not there to reset it |
| 19:23.39 | amphi | ah |
| 19:23.43 | pfuender | d1b, yeah, works fine on my 1tb thingy.. :-p |
| 19:23.49 | gnoob | jelly-home yep :) |
| 19:23.55 | I_Died_Once | http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/qFdFDveC |
| 19:24.12 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, fsck -v /dev/sdc1 |
| 19:24.18 | nebukad | petemc, im just asking because im tryin to find a reason why its crashing all the time since a couple days now even though it worked good for a week after installation |
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| 19:24.19 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, (sudo..) |
| 19:24.30 | gnoob | a kiosk running samba with a passwordprotected share for easy editing of the .odp file :) |
| 19:24.30 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: oops, looks like reboot time <sigh> hard drive light is on solid and fdisk -l saya it can't read /dev/sdb (which has /home). brb |
| 19:24.44 | I_Died_Once | http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/1Lax0uf2 |
| 19:24.46 | nebukad | petemc, so i was wondering if it got damage from a powerloss or something |
| 19:24.49 | petemc | nebukad: the logs would be the best place to start looking, memtest may also help |
| 19:24.57 | phorce1_home | at least I should be able to find out which host its on after the reboot |
| 19:25.06 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, fsck.ext4: Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/sdc1 |
| 19:25.08 | nebukad | ah memtest i will do that yes |
| 19:25.19 | I_Died_Once | i seriously dont think its a ext4 filesystem |
| 19:25.25 | I_Died_Once | its ext2 or 3 |
| 19:25.51 | nebukad | petemc, i also thought it may have to do with ntfs-3g |
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| 19:26.04 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, have a backup near you? ;-) |
| 19:26.09 | mof | unvalid partitiontable ? |
| 19:26.16 | I_Died_Once | dont say that |
| 19:26.28 | nebukad | petemc, but the ntfs partitions are not mounted anymore and it still gets kernelpanics from time tot ime |
| 19:26.40 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, what did you do that you're now getting this error anyway? |
| 19:26.51 | I_Died_Once | upgraded to squeeze |
| 19:26.55 | d1b | pfuender: probably using ext2 ;) |
| 19:26.58 | I_Died_Once | worked fine under lenny |
| 19:27.11 | d1b | I_Died_Once: use ext3 or higher thanks |
| 19:27.28 | pfuender | mof, I'd say partitiontable looks fine, since fdisk -l looks ok. |
| 19:27.36 | I_Died_Once | thats horrible news |
| 19:27.51 | I_Died_Once | how do i determine another superblock? |
| 19:27.53 | gnoob | jelly-home: a kiosk running samba with a passwordprotected share for easy editing of the .odp file :) I think it was a pretty neat idea, but not as easy as it seems. putting "invoke-rc.d samba start" into the /etc/bashrc file didnt do the trick either :\ You have a idea, or a suggestion how to fail less? :D |
| 19:28.05 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, try to quickly upgrade your fsck thingy. |
| 19:28.16 | mof | pfuender: not seen, sry |
| 19:28.24 | I_Died_Once | which package is that? |
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| 19:28.49 | CodeNinja | I am having problems getting a usb drive to be recognized by one specific system. its ext2 sata, it is recognized by my laptop [lenny] after a lsusb, but on my server [squeeze] its not found.. I get some info when I disconnect/reconnect it 'usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6; usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice' but I dont see the drive in /dev and lsusb/lshw/hwinfo dont say anything about it |
| 19:29.08 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, e2fsutils maybe.. not sure.. |
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| 19:29.32 | jelly-home | gnoob: why would it, a normal user won't be able to do anything with that command. if you wanted to hack it in that way, use rc.local |
| 19:29.37 | jelly-home | !tell gnoob about rc.local |
| 19:29.56 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, alternative superblock, run a 'mkfs.ext3 -v -n /dev/sdc1' make sure to NOT forget the -n, else you're f%& ;-) |
| 19:30.08 | gnoob | jelly-home: sorry.. i ment rc.local.. not .bashrc :) |
| 19:30.30 | jelly-home | gnoob: also, /usr/sbin/ |
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| 19:30.53 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, just checked.. e2fsprogs |
| 19:31.02 | I_Died_Once | pfuender will that wipe my partition? |
| 19:31.31 | jelly-home | I_Died_Once: is the data on that partition worth more than say USD 500? |
| 19:31.48 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, no, the -n is the 'dry-run' and only prints what would be done, but no actual write will be done. |
| 19:32.06 | I_Died_Once | if i can get to where i can back it up it would be awesome |
| 19:32.08 | I_Died_Once | ok, gotcha |
| 19:32.41 | jelly-home | I_Died_Once: you can already make an image-based copy of the whole partition (if you have space elsewhere to store the image). |
| 19:32.48 | d1b | dd |
| 19:32.55 | I_Died_Once | http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/CC3p2DAG |
| 19:32.56 | pfuender | dd | gzip |
| 19:33.15 | gnoob | jelly-home, interesting, how to make samba start from there? I can see there is a lot of executables in there |
| 19:33.17 | IanWizard | I'm working on designing an embedded system, and I'd like it to run debian from the first partition on the first partition, and then have a second partition that I can use as a disk via USB, as with android and such, but I want to be able to plug it into a computer (while the device is running) and boot the computer from the second partition on the device. Still in the research phase, but have no idea how to do something like this. Does any |
| 19:34.05 | I_Died_Once | running now.... |
| 19:34.20 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, line 18 and 19 shows you the place of your alternative superblocks. mount -o sb=98304,ro /dev/sdc1 /incoming |
| 19:34.37 | I_Died_Once | http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/GH4Hqtf9 |
| 19:34.58 | I_Died_Once | running a check on the filesystem... |
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| 19:35.22 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, let's keep fingers crossed :-D |
| 19:35.35 | I_Died_Once | yeah no $#1+ |
| 19:35.36 | Csow | does debian chroot postfix on a default install |
| 19:35.43 | d1b | Csow: yes |
| 19:35.51 | d1b | afaik |
| 19:36.12 | pfuender | I_Died_Once, brb... |
| 19:36.14 | d1b | also know that chroot is not for security alone |
| 19:36.17 | d1b | you can break out of a chroot |
| 19:36.25 | I_Died_Once | i got a full mame rom set on here.... |
| 19:36.26 | gnoob | jelly-home, looks like making a symbolic link from the same samba file from /etc/rcX.d and put it in /urs/bin could work? |
| 19:36.36 | jelly-home | pfuender: that is, _iff_ the old filesystem was created with the same mke2fs version and same /etc/mke2fs.conf |
| 19:37.06 | jelly-home | gnoob: no, why would you do that?? |
| 19:37.22 | Csow | how do i break out of chroot i am having dns issues to send mail |
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| 19:37.33 | jelly-home | gnoob: after you log in as root and do an /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d samba start, does it work? |
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| 19:37.42 | JairunCaloth | csow: exit |
| 19:37.57 | jelly-home | JairunCaloth: the context is "running postfix in chroot" |
| 19:38.09 | gnoob | jelly-home, yes invoke-rc.d samba start works well |
| 19:39.22 | Csow | how do I check if my postfix installation is chrooted if so I wanna leave it alone and fix my dns |
| 19:39.27 | JairunCaloth | oops, sorry :-p |
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| 19:40.59 | I_Died_Once | super woot |
| 19:41.11 | jelly-home | Csow: entries in /etc/postfix/master.cf have a "chroot" column. Default (-) means "yes" |
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| 19:41.12 | zzz | Hi! Is there etch repository where from i could download one package? (hddtemp) |
| 19:41.18 | abrotman | !tell zzz about ado |
| 19:41.40 | zzz | abrotman: Oh, yes, that' s trivial :- ). Thanks. |
| 19:41.48 | d1b | abrotman: morning, welcome to yet another sunday ;) |
| 19:41.52 | I_Died_Once | it asked me a few hundred "fix?(y)" question and i held the y button down |
| 19:41.54 | I_Died_Once | http://planetmofo.pastebin.com/cYGRjqw8 |
| 19:41.59 | abrotman | oh yeah, it is .. |
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| 19:42.10 | jelly-home | I_Died_Once: did you at least make an image before doing the fsck? |
| 19:42.13 | d1b | abrotman: ;) |
| 19:42.15 | I_Died_Once | i just accessed my stuff fir the first time since upgrading |
| 19:42.57 | Csow | thanks helly-home |
| 19:43.06 | Csow | jelly-home i meant |
| 19:43.10 | I_Died_Once | super thank yous to everyone |
| 19:43.11 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: oops, broke something. Machine won't even post now. Not even with the external drive disconnected. <sigh> |
| 19:43.20 | I_Died_Once | this is where i would but everyone a drink on me |
| 19:43.23 | I_Died_Once | **buy |
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| 19:43.43 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: I hope you didn't also hop-plug the power ;-) |
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| 19:43.54 | jelly-home | hotplug either |
| 19:44.32 | johannes_ | debian lenny is far away from being stable I wonder who decided to declare this bunch of nonworking software as a stable release |
| 19:44.35 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: external power supply. plug in SATA then connect power |
| 19:44.41 | jelly-home | I_Died_Once: donate that money to SPI |
| 19:44.45 | johannes_ | 2.6.26 includes a kernel memory leak |
| 19:44.53 | johannes_ | we just tested it here :/ |
| 19:44.56 | jelly-home | !tell I_Died_Once about donate |
| 19:45.11 | gnoob | jelly-home, invoke-rc.d samba start works flawlessly when run from root,, while putting that into the rc.local file it doesnt start on boot.. can the autologin with mingetty be the sinner? |
| 19:45.17 | jelly-home | johannes_: oh noes, software has bugs!? |
| 19:45.37 | CodeNinja | rawr |
| 19:45.39 | CodeNinja | headdesk^3 |
| 19:45.41 | johannes_ | jelly-home: kernel memory leaks are really evil... |
| 19:45.43 | jelly-home | johannes_: file a bug report on linux-image-`uname -r`, please. |
| 19:45.44 | pfuender | jelly-home, what's the SPI? |
| 19:45.51 | abrotman | !spi |
| 19:45.51 | dpkg | hmm... spi is Software in the Public Interest, the umbrella organization for Debian and other Free Software projects, and the home page is http://www.spi-inc.org/ |
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| 19:45.54 | johannes_ | jelly-home: already reported and it's fixed with newer kernel versions |
| 19:46.03 | johannes_ | best is probably just to dump debian stable |
| 19:46.17 | themill | johannes_: stable means a known set of bugs. You can always grab a newer kernel from backports.org. Now please stop acting like a really poor troll. |
| 19:46.19 | abrotman | johannes_: do you want help, or just to cause problems in this channel? |
| 19:46.19 | jelly-home | johannes_: reported in debian? |
| 19:46.28 | CodeNinja | slaps this usb drive in the face |
| 19:46.36 | johannes_ | jelly-home: did already but probably got picked up for another debian version |
| 19:46.44 | jelly-home | johannes_: which bug number? |
| 19:47.19 | johannes_ | jelly-home: hmm.. ok think it was another one but 2.6.26 has an additional one... |
| 19:47.36 | johannes_ | in any case 2.6.26/27 is a bad choice |
| 19:47.37 | abrotman | so it's a different bug, but you know it's been reported ? |
| 19:47.41 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: not posting with the other SATA drive disconnected as well. Something else went sideways. It's a "toss-together" box for the house. I'll mess with it later. |
| 19:47.54 | johannes_ | not to debian probably but to upstream... |
| 19:47.58 | jelly-home | johannes_: this is my cue to say "bug number or GTFO" |
| 19:48.12 | abrotman | johannes_: so file a bug on the debian package .. |
| 19:48.19 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: After yesterday's 14 hour router fiasco /me does NOT want to work on computers today |
| 19:48.55 | johannes_ | abrotman: doesn't matter we'll just tell people to use testing or sid |
| 19:49.10 | abrotman | oh, good choice .. give htem software with known security issues .. you're a great help |
| 19:49.24 | abrotman | johannes_: If you want to troll, go somewhere else |
| 19:49.34 | themill | johannes_: if you have a user support question about how to use reportbug, feel free to ask. |
| 19:49.57 | jelly-home | Oh noes lenny had leak! I use debian but can't be bothered to file a kernel bug report! Woe! |
| 19:50.01 | johannes_ | linux sucks anyway in terms of stability accross different kernel versions things work with kernel a but not kernel b as usual |
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| 19:50.18 | jelly-home | thanks for playing |
| 19:50.33 | themill | johannes_: please take a break from #debian and take the opportunity to grow up |
| 19:51.00 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: I ended up buying separate eSATA controllers instead of doing things with cables and/or connectors to mainboard. |
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| 19:52.13 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: cheapo PCIe/cardexpress SiI controllers have working hotplug |
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| 19:53.05 | jelly-home | using sata_sil or sata_sil24 driver |
| 19:53.24 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: If I didn't toast this MB that's what I'll do |
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| 19:55.30 | phorce1_home | now I need to get my irssi config off of the /home drive in the non-booting box so I can copy it to this win32 machine |
| 19:55.51 | jelly-home | use the external eSATA box! |
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| 19:55.53 | jelly-home | hides |
| 19:56.18 | phorce1_home | pull the drive, carry it to work tomorrow, use the eSATA dock I have hooked up there |
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| 19:56.51 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: everything external I have here at the house is made for 2.5" drives. /home is a 500G 3.5" |
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| 20:00.20 | jeffrin | hello all |
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| 20:01.28 | jeffrin | i have a directory . how to upload it's contents to a server using cvs ? |
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| 20:07.30 | CodeNinja | this seriously is pissing me off :\ squeeze isnt recognizing this drive |
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| 20:08.04 | jelly-home | jeffrin: you want to commit your changes, or add new files? You'll probably want to read documentation for cvs anyway. Do /msg dpkg cvs |
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| 20:09.19 | jeffrin | jelly-home : i need to uploads files for the first time |
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| 20:09.52 | chazz | how can i see a list of every package installed on my debian box? |
| 20:10.40 | jelly-home | jeffrin: to an existing project? http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html#Adding%2520Files |
| 20:10.59 | gnoob | jelly-home, a little update: samba was really running all the time (sorry) :s, but wasnt displaying shares.. The strange thing is when running invoke-rc.d from root then suddenly samba shows its shares.. It doesnt after normal boot. very very strange :) |
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| 20:12.29 | jelly-home | gnoob: by "wasn't displaying shares", are you saying "smbclient -L servername" from remote showed no results at all, or it merely didn't show any shares? |
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| 20:13.45 | themill | dpkg: tell chazz about installed |
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| 20:14.02 | chazz | themill, that's awesome, ty |
| 20:14.52 | kurtis | Hey guys, what's the easiest and most straight-forward way to setup sendmail for outgoing mail only? I have a little web server strictly for testing and all I just need a little outgoing mail support from Python |
| 20:15.24 | Cisien | isn't snedmail an smtp client, only? |
| 20:15.27 | Cisien | err, server |
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| 20:16.40 | kurtis | Cisien: It might be but I'm really not sure. I assumed by the name and seeing it on web servers with PHP that it was used for outgoing mail |
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| 20:19.04 | beardy | kurtis: Why aren't you using and configuring the default mail system then? |
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| 20:19.58 | gnoob | jelly-home, I used the gui, but should show same as smbclient -L I think.. -||-.. ok.. after some testing I see that I can see the shares from the smbclient command but not from gnomes GUI.. :\ |
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| 20:20.20 | kurtis | beardy: I'm not really sure what I need to send outgoing mail. I've never setup anything email related. I'm trying to stick with a simple solution as I don't need any incoming mail, incoming connections, etc... |
| 20:20.51 | gnoob | jelly-home, looks like a samba-problem then i think? |
| 20:20.59 | wpgguy | greetings.... I'm trying to determine how large my home dir is... the partition it's on that is. Fdisk -l spits out the answer in blocks, but I'm not sure how big each block is. Online says 1024, or 1 MB, but it doesn't sound definitive. du -h /home only shows the size of the contents... any other commands I'm not using or aware of that might assist me? cfdisk refuses to run because of some bad first sector error |
| 20:21.10 | Cisien | smtp is all about outgoing mail. it doesn't check email |
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| 20:21.28 | gnoob | wpgguy: df -h |
| 20:21.51 | wpgguy | gnoob... sweet. thx |
| 20:21.59 | gnoob | wpgguy :) np |
| 20:22.04 | wpgguy | now to man df and see what this cool command is all about |
| 20:22.25 | hydra_ | wpgguy: try du -h * |
| 20:22.27 | beardy | kurtis: Have you tried whatever it is you're hosting, in php? |
| 20:22.28 | kurtis | Cisien: Yeah. However, some SMTP Apps (daemons) allow you to connect remotely and what-not. I just want to be able to use a unix pipe or something simple to connect to the SMTP daemon to send out my mail |
| 20:22.55 | kurtis | beardy: Oh I think you read my message wrong. I don't have anything installed as far as email goes on this box. I was just saying that I've seen on other servers that they've used sendmail for outgoing mail. |
| 20:22.56 | beardy | kurtis: IIRC PHP mailer mails by itself. |
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| 20:23.28 | beardy | kurtis: You do. You have exim installed for internal system mail. |
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| 20:23.48 | gnoob | wpgguy: Paste this into shell: echo "You have got" `df -h | awk '/sda1/{print $4}'` "left on sda1" ;) |
| 20:23.49 | kurtis | beardy: ahh okay. Can exim also do external mail? |
| 20:24.28 | beardy | kurtis: Yes, of course. |
| 20:24.52 | kurtis | beardy: awesome. Well I'll google up some information about using Exim with Python. Thanks! |
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| 20:26.08 | beardy | !exim |
| 20:26.08 | dpkg | Exim is a message transfer agent developed at University of Cambridge for use on Unix systems connected to the internet. It is available under the GPL and the current version in Debian is exim4. Ask me about <exim4> <exim boot stall> <exim flush queue> <why exim>. http://www.exim.org/ #exim on irc.freenode.net and irc.oftc.net. |
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| 20:27.00 | beardy | kurtis: 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' IIRC, to configure it easily with a few presets, where "outgoing mail only" is one of them. |
| 20:27.32 | kurtis | beardy: All right I'll give that a try. Thanks again! |
| 20:28.05 | beardy | kurtis: No problem. /msg dpkg exim4, that was what I planned on calling in here.. |
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| 20:33.19 | kurtis | Hey Beardy, I'm assuming I want one of these two options but I'm not sure: "Internet site; mail sent/received directly using SMTP" or "mail sent by smarthost; recevied via SMTP or fetchmail". I'm leaning towards the first option. Any suggestions? |
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| 20:35.29 | beardy | kurtis: You probably want the first one yes. |
| 20:36.25 | jhutchins_lt2 | kurtis: smarthost means you relay everything through your ISP and don't have to worry about blocked mail. |
| 20:36.39 | jhutchins_lt2 | kurtis: (Usually. My ISP got itself blocked for a while.) |
| 20:36.40 | kurtis | ahh okay that makes sense. |
| 20:36.47 | Cisien | kurtis: apt-get install sendmail? |
| 20:37.09 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Cisien why exim |
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| 20:37.43 | kurtis | I use DynDNS to route a domain name to my host. Can I use that domain name as my "System Mail Name"? |
| 20:37.47 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Cisien "why exim" |
| 20:37.49 | kurtis | to my house* |
| 20:37.57 | Cisien | your bot hates you |
| 20:38.18 | beardy | jhutchins_lt: "about" |
| 20:38.22 | jhutchins_lt | Not mine, but I think it's a two-word key with a tell that doesn't work. |
| 20:38.37 | Cisien | meh... exim is email? |
| 20:38.54 | jhutchins_lt | Cisien: I think sendmail's great, but there are good resons to use exim (exim4) by default in Debian; yes. |
| 20:38.55 | beardy | !tell Cisien about why exim |
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| 20:39.06 | jhutchins_lt | http://feayn.org/~lewis/exim.txt |
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| 20:39.30 | jhutchins_lt | Ach, have I been forgetting "about"? I thought it was optional. Maybe necessary for two word keys? |
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| 20:40.00 | beardy | Always necessary AFAIR, |
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| 20:40.27 | beardy | kurtis: Yes yu can use that. |
| 20:40.32 | beardy | you* |
| 20:40.49 | kurtis | thanks |
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| 20:41.30 | jhutchins_lt | will not taunt the bot with further exploration. |
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| 20:45.05 | kurtis | Cool, well I got exim working and tested it with "echo hello | exim foo@bar.com" and the email was sent successfully. Since I am using this for web email and I don't want the return name to be "Root" (or any other user on the system) but rather a real email address, is there a guide to show me how to do that properly? |
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| 20:45.44 | stuckey | how do I scp something that has spaces in the file name? \ doesn't work |
| 20:46.30 | Cisien | quotes? |
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| 20:46.55 | stuckey | Cisien: that also doesn't work |
| 20:47.03 | beardy | kurtis: You set the From: field when sending mail using any client, your PHP application will do that too. Probably configurable, or determinable by you. |
| 20:47.30 | beardy | stuckey: "ugly file.foo" |
| 20:47.34 | Cisien | file\has\spaces or file\ has\ spaces? |
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| 20:48.04 | beardy | stuckey: tar it, send, untar |
| 20:48.05 | jelly-home | stuckey: scp is an ungly hack, you might need to escape the file name twice. |
| 20:48.10 | kurtis | beardy: ahh okay. And just to put this out here, in case its relevant, I'm actually using Python at the moment for this CGI stuff. I'll give that a shot though. Thanks again |
| 20:48.45 | jelly-home | stuckey: what is the exact command that fails? |
| 20:49.06 | beardy | kurtis: Ah ok. But anyway, any function/client will have you give it a sender, so use "dontreply@your.domain" or so. |
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| 20:50.35 | kurtis | beardy: ahh okay. good idea on the Sender address btw. |
| 20:50.40 | nooper | you could also use sftp, which has filename completion and will escape filenames as needed. but really quotes with scp should work |
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| 20:51.15 | jelly-home | sftp will work, as will frontends like sshfs |
| 20:51.42 | nooper | <3 lftp |
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| 20:53.13 | patriick | how do i uncheck install desktop in debian ? |
| 20:53.25 | dvs | patriick: space |
| 20:53.32 | patriick | ah thanks |
| 20:53.36 | dvs | np |
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| 20:55.02 | User_007 | !br |
| 20:55.02 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 20:55.36 | beardy | thinks that should be noted in the installer.. that it's space, and what Enter does.. |
| 20:55.47 | stuckey | beardy: ah good idea :) |
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| 20:56.16 | stuckey | beardy: ugly? |
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| 20:57.43 | kurtis | beardy: Thanks for all of your help. It looks like it's going to work great. Just to share some information I picked up, the Python module/library that makes this stuff easy to use with exim or any other sendmail-compatible server is 'smtplib'. |
| 20:57.51 | beardy | stuckey: Spaces in filenames are ugly. |
| 20:57.53 | Quibus | good night |
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| 20:58.25 | beardy | kurtis: Alright. :) You're very welcome. |
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| 21:02.15 | stuckey | jelly-home: scp -r foo.bar.com:/media/sdd/data/The\ Series\ Three /mnt/drive/ |
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| 21:04.33 | jelly-home | stuckey: right. now add quotes around "The\ Series\ Three", just like that |
| 21:04.44 | stuckey | jelly-home: okay |
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| 21:35.39 | Flash_ | lofty:/home/flash# mount |
| 21:35.39 | Flash_ | /dev/sdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 21:35.39 | Flash_ | /dev/sdb1 on /tv type fuseblk (rw,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions) |
| 21:35.42 | Flash_ | gj, grub2 |
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| 21:47.18 | masteusz | hi all |
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| 21:50.16 | masteusz | well, traffic is big but kinda quiet :) |
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| 21:54.15 | acu | where can I find the images which are shown during GUI interface installation of squeeze ? |
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| 21:58.26 | BeletteBleue | Hello. There is a big bug on debian (also on Ubuntu...). Try to enter "Martin" or "Dupont" on the window Qui, Quoi and "Paris in the window Ville of the site www.pagesjaunes.fr, enter, then clic on the tab "pages blanches". You will maybe not be able to write your feedback just know!!!!!!! |
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| 22:00.35 | hatter_ | i have a new install of lenny on a new motherboard that i havent used before, however when there is a lag on a lot of cli programs, ie : ls -la takes maybe 8 seconds to display directory, ps takes the same, I am guessing it is a sata chipset driver and that a generic driver has been used, how do i tell if this is the case ? |
| 22:01.12 | abrotman | hatter_: uname -r ? |
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| 22:01.39 | hatter_ | abrotman, it is the latest amd64 kernel, |
| 22:01.42 | abrotman | BeletteBleue: spam somewhere else? |
| 22:01.43 | patriick | ok im a fresh install and i can't sudo?? |
| 22:01.47 | abrotman | hatter_: that doesn't help |
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| 22:01.52 | BeletteBleue | abrotman: ? |
| 22:01.54 | hatter_ | abrotman, ok i will get it |
| 22:01.56 | abrotman | patriick: it's not installed or configured by default |
| 22:01.56 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 22:02.15 | patriick | abrotman: so log in as root and apt-get install sudo? |
| 22:02.15 | Flash_ | patriick, try su ? |
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| 22:02.16 | abrotman | BeletteBleue: file a bug in the BTS |
| 22:02.28 | abrotman | patriick: aptitude install sudo .. then visudo .. configure it |
| 22:02.29 | johnfg | Still trying to get entries for grub2 figured out so that I can run lenny as well as squeeze. |
| 22:02.54 | patriick | or i could just log in as root and install whatever programs i need and switch back right |
| 22:03.11 | Flash_ | r |
| 22:03.22 | BeletteBleue | abrotman: ok. yes the source must be iceweasel... |
| 22:03.37 | abrotman | BeletteBleue: ubuntu doesn't use iceweasel .. try again |
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| 22:03.58 | abrotman | patriick: correct, or use su .. however you'd like to do it |
| 22:04.28 | johnfg | update-grub 'found' them, but misconfigured them as squeeze. Merely changing the info in /boot/grub/grub.cfg didn't work. |
| 22:04.52 | johnfg | Yeah, I know it's not supposed to edited directly anyway. |
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| 22:06.01 | hatter_ | abrotman: 2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 22:06.33 | abrotman | hatter_: your kernel is out of date .. aptitude install linux-image-amd64 |
| 22:06.51 | abrotman | hatter_: you can also try the bpo kernel which would be a .32 kernel and might have an updated driver |
| 22:07.02 | hatter_ | abrotman, ok thx i will try this now |
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| 22:08.53 | patriick | how to switch terminal windows? |
| 22:08.57 | patriick | alt+f? |
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| 22:09.34 | dkr | patriick: do you mean console, or a within a specific program like gnome-terminal? |
| 22:09.45 | patriick | no im on debian without X installed |
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| 22:10.07 | dkr | yes, alt-fn then, or alt-left or alt-right to move one number int hat direction |
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| 22:10.21 | patriick | what about scolling up or down |
| 22:10.28 | dkr | shift-pgup/down |
| 22:10.33 | patriick | thanks |
| 22:11.16 | BeletteBleue | abrotman: I know |
| 22:12.26 | BeletteBleue | abrotman: changing the name doesn't change the freeze. |
| 22:13.13 | abrotman | BeletteBleue: file a bug in the BTS |
| 22:13.21 | abrotman | or try another browser |
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| 22:14.12 | BeletteBleue | abrotman: with epiphany it is the same |
| 22:14.31 | abrotman | epiphany webkit or gecko ? |
| 22:14.41 | BeletteBleue | 15s |
| 22:14.58 | abrotman | that's a question ... |
| 22:15.03 | patriick | just plugged in usb and debian went crazy :( i really just need someone to walk me thru installing tar.gz off a usb stick |
| 22:15.03 | BeletteBleue | Navigateur Web 2.30.2 |
| 22:15.41 | abrotman | didn't answer my questoin |
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| 22:16.03 | BeletteBleue | yes webkit |
| 22:16.36 | BeletteBleue | "Propulsé par WebKit" |
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| 22:16.56 | abrotman | so, you're telling me that two different web rendering engines freeze on your website, and it's a bug in the browser? |
| 22:17.19 | jacekowski | yes |
| 22:17.28 | AimHere | Maybe all browsers are bugged |
| 22:17.34 | BeletteBleue | I don't know what is the cause, that why I'm asking. |
| 22:17.39 | jacekowski | browser should take anything that's there |
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| 22:17.51 | jacekowski | ignore/deal with it |
| 22:17.54 | jacekowski | but not crash |
| 22:18.22 | abrotman | it's two different rendering engines |
| 22:18.39 | abrotman | perhaps the website has a bug in the code? or perhaps it uses flash? |
| 22:19.36 | BeletteBleue | abrotman: I used flashblocker on Ub...., but it didn't solve the problem |
| 22:19.45 | AimHere | Well the site does use flash, but it's still slow |
| 22:19.59 | zcat[1] | if something crashes the browser it's a browser bug.. no matter how screwed up your website is, it still shouldn't crash browsers... |
| 22:19.59 | abrotman | javascript bug? |
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| 22:20.39 | AimHere | Sid's iceweasel works for me |
| 22:21.02 | BeletteBleue | maybe. Will do a test without js when my HD saving will be finished |
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| 22:25.33 | johnfg | Any ideas for my grub2 problem? |
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| 22:29.00 | obiwahn | icewesel in debian is pretty old:( |
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| 22:29.35 | macrobat | obiwahn: there is backports |
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| 22:30.12 | acx0 | are there any consequences of changing your home directory's permissions to o-rx so that no other user can read the directory? |
| 22:30.39 | macrobat | ,versions iceweasel |
| 22:30.41 | judd | iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.11-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.5.11-1; sid: 3.5.11-2; experimental: 3.6.8-2 |
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| 22:33.39 | hatter_ | abrotman, thx, looks like that fixed it. |
| 22:34.12 | hatter_ | my next problem, in dmesg i have this : attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 22:34.12 | hatter_ | [ 48.681585] sdb: rw=0, want=1136743333, limit=976817134 |
| 22:35.43 | abrotman | enjoy |
| 22:36.01 | hatter_ | ah, and further up this :Buffer I/O error on device sdb8, logical block 488279297, any ideas what these mean ? |
| 22:36.37 | hatter_ | only on sdb, not sda, disks are the identical |
| 22:36.42 | hatter_ | and new |
| 22:36.54 | hatter_ | maybe one is faulty |
| 22:37.01 | patriick | yyep i knew it, its true usb sticks do not work by default in debian |
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| 22:37.08 | patriick | back to ubuntu server |
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| 22:39.19 | abrotman | patriick: that is not true at all |
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| 22:40.00 | abrotman | patriick: i use USB sticks all the time .. sounds like you've done something wrong |
| 22:40.23 | patriick | abrotman: like what? sticking it in and hoping it works? |
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| 22:40.37 | abrotman | patriick: did you check dmesg? |
| 22:41.03 | patriick | i had to ctrl+c out of whatever popped up |
| 22:41.08 | abrotman | patriick: did you check dmesg? |
| 22:41.17 | patriick | no need to tag twice |
| 22:41.26 | abrotman | it's a yes/no question |
| 22:41.35 | patriick | nope |
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| 22:41.55 | hatter_ | i am using the default install of gnome on lenny, how do i make sure the windows i have opened are saved and will startup on reboot ? |
| 22:41.56 | abrotman | so you don't actually know what the system did with it .. you have no idea where it might have mounted it .. you didn't actually look for useful information |
| 22:42.10 | abrotman | hatter_: there's an option somewhere to save your sessoin state |
| 22:42.30 | hatter_ | abrotman, i have tried this, but it didnt work, so now am looking for the file it saves it to |
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| 22:43.02 | hatter_ | i guess its some file in the users home directory |
| 22:43.09 | patriick | i dont even know dmesg is |
| 22:43.10 | abrotman | patriick: did you even try to mount the usb drive? |
| 22:43.18 | patriick | but i check /media/ |
| 22:43.31 | patriick | nothign there, and it gave me a bunch of errors when i plugged it in |
| 22:43.33 | abrotman | patriick: right, you didn't mount the device |
| 22:43.43 | hatter_ | patriick, have you tried lsusb to see that the system sees it ? |
| 22:43.46 | abrotman | i doubt it gave you errors, it probably gave you useful information |
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| 22:44.39 | abrotman | patriick: somewhere in those "errors" it will have a device like sdb or sdc or sdt .. whatever it is |
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| 22:45.04 | abrotman | patriick: you've confused "does not work" with "not configured magically like ubuntu does for people that dont' want to learn anything" |
| 22:46.16 | patriick | well i do want to learn, but when it gets to a point where it gets in the way of getting my task done its just a nuisance really |
| 22:47.02 | johnfg | abrotman, I'd like to learn how to get lenny to boot from the grub2 menu... |
| 22:47.14 | johnfg | It's on sdb. |
| 22:47.24 | abrotman | patriick: then ask us how .. don't make troll-ish statements like "debian doesnt' support usb drives" .. that's just ignorance |
| 22:47.35 | patriick | true |
| 22:47.37 | abrotman | johnfg: did you install os-prober ? |
| 22:47.45 | johnfg | Yep. |
| 22:47.59 | abrotman | johnfg: and it doesn't see it ? |
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| 22:48.20 | patriick | is there a faq or something i can read, google just brings up old forum posts :( |
| 22:48.21 | bint | hi there... i'm new on debian.. anyone wants to give me advice how to configure a vnc server? |
| 22:48.28 | bint | i installed vnc4server |
| 22:48.46 | bint | but now i dont know how to create users and how to connect form my windows machine to this vnc-server i just installed :D |
| 22:48.47 | abrotman | patriick: so anyways .. normally you'd plug in the device and it would spew that stuff on the screen, and it will give a name like sda or sde, etc .. mount /dev/sde1 /media/ .. would work for example |
| 22:48.47 | johnfg | Yes, it 'saw it' as 5.0.5, but then the entry for it was for squeeze! It's kernel and all. |
| 22:48.57 | jhutchins_lt | johnfg: I've found that update-grub (on squeeze) picked up my lenny partition automatically. |
| 22:49.00 | abrotman | johnfg: does it share a /boot/ ? |
| 22:49.17 | johnfg | abrotman, no it doesn't. |
| 22:49.52 | johnfg | jhutchins_lt, win xp pro and squeeze are on sda, lenny on sdb. It didn't get picked up. |
| 22:50.09 | johnfg | lenny didn't get picked up, but win xp pro did. |
| 22:50.11 | jhutchins_lt | johnfg: On the grub2 installation, you just need to add a stanza for the lenny partition - look at whatever's there and just duplicate it with appropriate changes. |
| 22:51.05 | johnfg | jhutchins_lt, So, use the 40_custom, then run update-grub and see if that works? |
| 22:51.42 | johnfg | If not 40_custom, where would you put the stanza for lenny? |
| 22:52.15 | hatter_ | any of you deal with a lot of hard drives ? is it my imagination or are hard drives really crappy these days ? |
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| 22:52.49 | fas3r | how can i know which version of gcc was use to compil the kernel ? |
| 22:52.57 | abrotman | fas3r: cat /proc/version |
| 22:53.04 | fas3r | abrotman, haa yes :D |
| 22:53.07 | fas3r | thank you |
| 22:53.45 | fas3r | abrotman, and if i dont have file etc/version :D |
| 22:53.52 | fas3r | oups |
| 22:53.54 | abrotman | /proc/version |
| 22:53.56 | fas3r | sorry :D |
| 22:54.02 | fas3r | tired ^^ |
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| 22:59.18 | jhutchins_lt | Shoot, I figured out which file to customize for grub2 and now I can't remember which it was. |
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| 23:00.32 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, /etc/default/grub |
| 23:01.00 | jhutchins_lt | johnfg: Sorry, took me a while, customize in /etc/default/grub |
| 23:01.08 | jhutchins_lt | johnfg: Then update-grub |
| 23:01.37 | jhutchins_lt | I thought it was disappointing that while update-grub found and displayed the names of the other distros it found, it put them in the menu as "linux". |
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| 23:03.11 | johnfg | jhutchins_lt, So you think I should put the whole 4 line stanza, adapted, for lenny in the /etc/default/grub? If so, where? |
| 23:03.42 | billy_ | hi - i want to stop nautilus from writing .trash folders to usb devices - it breaks cameras and mp3 players - where do i go? |
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| 23:04.13 | suguiura | Hey guys, do you know if there is any way of downloading only the first 100 bytes of a text file in internet? |
| 23:04.17 | jhutchins_lt | johnfg: That's the best I could figure to do, although I'm surprized it didn't check other drives. You might persue that a bit. |
| 23:04.39 | Ikarus | suguiura: there is a way |
| 23:04.41 | johnfg | OK, am going to try a reboot now. Will check later. Thanks! |
| 23:04.44 | Ikarus | and both curl and wget support it |
| 23:04.48 | jhutchins_lt | suguiura: You might be able to do that with wget, check the manpage for options. |
| 23:05.20 | suguiura | I've researched the quota option in wget, but apparently it doesn't work with single files... |
| 23:05.54 | jhutchins_lt | I think grub2 is just ridiculous. WAY too many options, WAY to many things that 99% of users will never need. |
| 23:06.04 | patriick | abrotman: u still alive? |
| 23:06.07 | Ikarus | jhutchins_lt: and it BREAKS on over half my systems |
| 23:06.13 | jhutchins_lt | We need a stripped down version that is intended to boot i86 machines. |
| 23:06.14 | Ikarus | jhutchins_lt: I recommend using extlinux instead |
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| 23:06.20 | suguiura | I'll check curl, tho. |
| 23:06.21 | jhutchins_lt | lilo. |
| 23:06.26 | abrotman | patriick: barely! |
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| 23:06.53 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman is on the dark side of the planet. |
| 23:06.55 | patriick | abrotman: lol well it says its already mounted but i dont see anything /media/ |
| 23:06.58 | patriick | so now im stuck |
| 23:07.22 | jhutchins_lt | patriick: the mount command, issued without options (by a user) will list mounted filesystems. |
| 23:07.38 | patriick | is there a way to list the ones that arent mounted |
| 23:07.46 | jhutchins_lt | patriick: Also, the dmesg command, or dmesg | tail, might show where it was mounted. |
| 23:07.48 | abrotman | patriick: type 'mount' ... see it there ? |
| 23:08.30 | jhutchins_lt | patriick: Of course it's going to be listed as /dev/sdX |
| 23:08.45 | patriick | its kinda confusing cuz its one of those usb cruzers that forces the u3 thing on ur comp |
| 23:08.52 | jhutchins_lt | patriick: fdisk -l might list it as well. |
| 23:08.52 | patriick | which is why im about to try anotehr usb |
| 23:08.57 | abrotman | the linux compatible u3 ? |
| 23:09.04 | patriick | lol u tell me |
| 23:09.21 | asig | el ap es el router wifi, no la tarejta wifi del eee |
| 23:09.28 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: I think that's one of those malware software loaders that installs a special manager for the drive. Like you really need that. |
| 23:09.31 | asig | sorry. |
| 23:09.59 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: I think the last estimate I saw was that 1 in 4 USB key drives has malware on it. |
| 23:10.07 | patriick | yeah i tried deleting it before but its on some kinda locked partition |
| 23:10.09 | bint | anyone? help me with vnc4server to get it started |
| 23:10.16 | bint | i installed it but how to configure |
| 23:10.59 | jhutchins_lt | bint: Did it come with man pages? A /usr/share/doc/vnc4server/ folder? |
| 23:11.02 | suguiura | Ikarus: curl makes the trick with --range! Thanks!! |
| 23:11.15 | patriick | i havent tried removing it with gparted yet |
| 23:11.18 | jhutchins_lt | has used realvnc and tightvnc. |
| 23:11.26 | jhutchins_lt | Oh, and mac. |
| 23:11.40 | Ironhand | mostly offtopic question (but can't think of where else to ask it): suppose I have a full rsync style backup of the files in a certain filesystem, what other data would I need to store to be able to properly reconstruct the filesystem and what's the best way to go about it (boot sector, generic filesystem metadata, etc)? would e2image take care of this? |
| 23:12.22 | jhutchins_lt | Ironhand: Text file listing type and size of the partition? |
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| 23:13.01 | jhutchins_lt | Ironhand: If it's grub or lilo and a linux system you should be able to restore once the files are restored. |
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| 23:14.29 | jhutchins_lt | I think it's beer:30. |
| 23:15.12 | Ironhand | jhutchins_lt: wouldn't that mean I still lose all kinds of filesystem metadata such as specified with mke2fs? |
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| 23:16.37 | Ironhand | for a bit of context, I'm basically trying to set up a reliable but efficient backup solution for virtual machines, I already have a solution for the actual files but am looking for the missing piece of the puzzle to be able to easily reconstruct a fully correct & bootable partition image |
| 23:17.29 | jhutchins_lt | Ironhand: THere should be tools with your vm manager that allow you to copy an image file. |
| 23:18.09 | jhutchins_lt | Ironhand: Usually a vm's disk(s) is contained in a file on the host system. |
| 23:18.36 | jhutchins_lt | Ironhand: For a normal system, you wouldn't worry about filesystem metadata, you'd just create a partition and restore the files to it. |
| 23:18.48 | Ironhand | jhutchins_lt: yes, but backing up the raw image isn't what I'm after, as making daily backup images and keeping them for a long time would require rather large amounts of storage |
| 23:18.56 | jhutchins_lt | Ironhand: You can also create an image of the partition using dd. |
| 23:19.19 | cafuego | Ironhand: I use rsnapshot to ssh in to each VM and backup what I need. |
| 23:19.20 | hatter_ | dd images are large also |
| 23:19.25 | jhutchins_lt | Ironhand: You might want to look at rdif backup. |
| 23:19.58 | jhutchins_lt | hatter_: Same size as the partition, right? |
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| 23:20.17 | Ironhand | cafuego: does rsnapshot take care of generic filesystem metadata & boot sectors & the like too? |
| 23:20.19 | cafuego | Ironhand: It uses hardlinks for files that haven't been modified and unlike rdiff-backup you can access all versions of all files without needing to doa restore first. |
| 23:20.25 | cafuego | Ironhand: Nope. |
| 23:20.42 | Ironhand | cafuego: that's what my current solution (Dirvish) does as well |
| 23:20.59 | jhutchins_lt | cafuego: You can do that with rdiff too. |
| 23:21.38 | cafuego | Ironhand: I reckon it's probably quicker to provision a new VM and then push data back to it tthan to restore the complete VM from a backup |
| 23:21.53 | jhutchins_lt | Ironhand: Normally to restore a bootsector you'd just chroot to the system and run lilo or grub-install. |
| 23:22.06 | cafuego | Ironhand: I don't bother backuping up stuff like /usr and /lib , just a list of installed packages and /etc |
| 23:22.13 | Ironhand | all the solutions mentioned seem to be aimed at backing up the actual files, but I've got a satisfactory solution for that already... what I want to backup is the data defining the filesystem that is not accessible as part of the mounted filesystem tree |
| 23:22.18 | cafuego | s/backuping/backing up/ |
| 23:22.45 | jhutchins_lt | Ironhand: WHY? What do you imagine is there that wouldn't be there after creating a new partition? |
| 23:22.58 | cafuego | Ironhand: Can you give me an example of such data? |
| 23:23.33 | Ironhand | as already mentioned, most/all of the options specified as options to mke2fs |
| 23:23.34 | jhutchins_lt | Perhaps he means to copy the partition table so it can be restored directly instead of recreating it? |
| 23:23.50 | patriick | ok so i just plugged in a another usn and all the useful info comes up, am i suppoed to use CTRL+C to go back to typing in commands? |
| 23:23.57 | patriick | usb^ |
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| 23:24.20 | jhutchins_lt | patriick: Read the useful info. If necessary, paste it into google for explanations. |
| 23:24.23 | cafuego | Ironhand: So dump that to a file via 'tune2fs -l' > /etc/filesystem.defs |
| 23:24.37 | patriick | jhutchins_lt: lol how am i gonna do that on a console |
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| 23:24.50 | cafuego | Ironhand: Do it in the same cron job that dumps 'dpkg --get-selections' |
| 23:25.05 | Ironhand | cafuego: ah, tune2fs -l sounds like a step in the right direction |
| 23:25.53 | cafuego | Ironhand: it gives you all that info in a nicely compressable 1.8Kb file |
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| 23:26.47 | cafuego | Ironhand: You could also fix /etc/mke2fs.conf and just default the options you want to begin with. |
| 23:27.48 | VeinJu | hey guys, I am looking for a distrib* who run only in a terminal, he must to be sophisticated and looks good |
| 23:28.09 | Ironhand | cafuego: thanks for the idea |
| 23:29.06 | VeinJu | since I am on linux, GUI makes me puke |
| 23:29.06 | cafuego | VeinJu: This is a linux support channel, not a dating site. |
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| 23:29.19 | Ironhand | as for the grub side of matters, I reckon backing up the filesystem's boot sector should suffice? |
| 23:29.30 | VeinJu | cafuego, dating site ? |
| 23:29.41 | cafuego | VeinJu: "he must to be sophisticated and looks good" |
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| 23:30.01 | cafuego | VeinJu: I can't help you if you're looking for a husband |
| 23:30.14 | VeinJu | cafuego, I talk about a distribution |
| 23:30.31 | cafuego | Ironhand: I wouldn't bother tbh and use chroot to install a new boot sector after a restore. |
| 23:30.37 | VeinJu | cafuego, a linux distrib* |
| 23:30.49 | bzed | VeinJu: there is never a need to install xorg. |
| 23:31.04 | bzed | VeinJu: so your question doesn't make sense. |
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| 23:31.09 | cafuego | Ironhand: You *can* always dd the boot sector to a file via a cron job as well, maybe even via a kernel pkg post-install hook. |
| 23:31.29 | cafuego | VeinJu: A distribution is an "it" not a "he". |
| 23:31.50 | VeinJu | bzed, I am just looking for a distro who works only in a terminal - with no GUI, simple as that |
| 23:32.00 | cafuego | VeinJu: And as bzed says, if you don't like X< don't install it. |
| 23:32.24 | Ironhand | cafuego: would usually work, but wouldn't that cause grub to be confused w.r.t. to the system's hardware and mapping harddisk devices the right way? or am I confused with the update-grub script now? |
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| 23:32.51 | cafuego | Ironhand: Aaah yes it might actually :-/ |
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| 23:33.31 | Ironhand | VeinJu: short summary - pretty much any distribution offers the terminal-only part if you wish :-) |
| 23:34.07 | Ironhand | cafuego: from the sounds of it, dumping the boot sector + tune2fs -l output should do what I need, so I think I'll be sticking with that |
| 23:34.14 | Ironhand | (as well as the system's MBR ofc) |
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| 23:34.41 | Ironhand | oops, VeinJu left anyway... |
| 23:35.30 | cafuego | Ironhand: I think venju thinks X isn't l33t h4x0rz ish enough. I wonder if it knows about ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 23:36.14 | zinx | cafuego: he will probably end up with gentoo. |
| 23:36.40 | cafuego | zinx: Hey, it's at least a step up from Windows 7. |
| 23:36.47 | Ironhand | cafuego: pretty much, rather weird having a dislike for graphical environments combined with an apparent lack of knowledge about how text based stuff works... |
| 23:36.58 | obliv|on | How do I install a livecd image to the diskspace set up in a vm? I've been searching online and haven't come up with much useful. |
| 23:37.20 | cafuego | obliv|on: just boot the livecd in the vm and install. |
| 23:37.23 | cafuego | obliv|on: kvm? |
| 23:37.26 | Ironhand | even with my own command-line fetish I much prefer full-screen xterm to actual linux tty's... |
| 23:37.42 | zinx | i just have a crapton of terminals sitting around |
| 23:37.51 | zinx | don't even bother to fullscreen them :/ |
| 23:37.53 | cafuego | Ironhand: With a big enough screen I can run and look at 6 xterms at once ;-) |
| 23:38.05 | beardy | I don't, but yes.. I doubt he knew why he wanted it. |
| 23:38.13 | obliv|on | cafuego it is amnesic (amnesia/incognito) in virtualbox |
| 23:38.19 | Ironhand | I run a single one and connect it to GNU Screen |
| 23:38.30 | zinx | Ironhand: i usually need to see more than one of them at one time |
| 23:38.32 | Ironhand | though admittedly that's somewhat of a waste of horizontal screen space |
| 23:38.36 | zinx | screen's not so good for that. |
| 23:38.38 | cafuego | Ironhand: I can run the ame one on 6 xterms via screen -x. Epic win? |
| 23:38.48 | beardy | I have vty:s, xterms and screens. |
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| 23:38.52 | Ironhand | screen can do vertical splits though |
| 23:38.57 | patriick | none of this crap is helping me :(( |
| 23:38.58 | obliv|on | cafuego I've been looking for an installer, but this is different than livecd's I've seen for fedora or gentoo which have quick links to automate the install process. Sorry. =/ |
| 23:39.03 | zinx | Ironhand: but then i can't move 'em around individually :P |
| 23:39.18 | Ironhand | zinx: true :-) |
| 23:39.25 | cafuego | obliv|on: I've never used virtualbox and I've not heard of amnesic so I don't think I can be much help |
| 23:39.49 | obliv|on | cafuego its based on debian live so that's why I was hoping any info about how to install that might be useful for me. |
| 23:40.16 | Ironhand | patriick: what's the problem again in a nutshell? |
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| 23:41.44 | beardy | obliv|on: Based ons are not supported here. But, just boot the .iso/.img/whatever in virtualbox, mount it on a cd drive. If you can install it depends on the system. Prepare a harddrive image in virtualbox beforehand. |
| 23:42.47 | beardy | obliv|on: Most likely the installation procdure is documented on its website of not when booting. (and in the system) |
| 23:42.48 | cafuego | patriick: A locked partition on a usb stick? |
| 23:43.02 | beardy | s/of/if/ |
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| 23:43.59 | obliv|on | beardy thanks I appreciate it and I understand based ons are not supported I appreciate the tips nonetheless sorry to be troublesome. |
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| 23:45.11 | beardy | obliv|on: If it's closely based on Debian live, check its docs for hints. /msg dpkg live |
| 23:45.51 | jhutchins_lt | patriick: In answer to your earlier question, just use gpm and lynx. |
| 23:46.09 | jhutchins_lt | patriick: Cut-and-paste has worked on consoles as long as there have been mice. |
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| 23:46.48 | billy_ | does anyone know what config files controls how nautilus interacts with internal and external drives? |
| 23:47.12 | ribasushi | is it a bad or downright terrible idea to replace tar with bsdtar system-wide ? |
| 23:47.44 | beardy | ribasushi: Not if that's what you want. For most, most likely. |
| 23:48.24 | ribasushi | beardy: I basically want a tar with sane xattr support |
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| 23:48.36 | ribasushi | and was wondering how much it will affect stuff if I just re-link tar to it |
| 23:49.25 | beardy | ribasushi: Keep it separate. Alias it for yourself. |
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| 23:57.23 | fas3r | can i use iptables and for example on the client connect on myip.com:80 and on the server redirect the flux on the port 22 if its ssh protocol ? |
| 23:57.39 | fas3r | because i can just use the port 80 or 445 |
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| 23:58.18 | abrotman | fas3r: you might want to ask #netfilter |
| 23:58.29 | fas3r | abrotman, ok tahnk |
| 23:59.20 | cafuego | fas3r: Can you use 53? |
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| 23:59.55 | fas3r | cafuego, yes i guess |