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| 00:02.11 | I_Died_Once | mmnicolas, while I appreciate your attempt at trolling, compiling is not always that easy |
| 00:02.16 | I_Died_Once | very rarely, actually |
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| 00:03.51 | mmnicolas | you say that because you have to deal with dependencies yourself |
| 00:04.03 | mmnicolas | instead of relying on a package manager to figure it out |
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| 00:05.18 | mmnicolas | but take really small that does have any dependencies other than libc |
| 00:05.29 | I_Died_Once | well I'll tell you what then, you enjoy your corporate operating system, pay for your lisence keys and scratch your head with key generators and cracked & pirated software |
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| 00:05.41 | I_Died_Once | virus' |
| 00:05.44 | I_Died_Once | and spyware |
| 00:05.54 | mmnicolas | ? |
| 00:05.59 | amee2k | ? |
| 00:06.03 | I_Died_Once | go troll #windows |
| 00:06.17 | dondelelcaro | can we all stop this thread of conversation, please? |
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| 00:06.29 | dondelelcaro | no one appears to be trolling, and it's all off topic for #debian |
| 00:06.34 | I_Died_Once | yeah lets talk about something else debian related |
| 00:06.42 | amee2k | the fact that i was sick of just that is one of the reasons why i dumped the game console operating system |
| 00:07.10 | I_Died_Once | my first computer came with Windows ME on it |
| 00:07.33 | I_Died_Once | no wonder i ditched microsoft and learned the ways of the gnu |
| 00:07.41 | mmnicolas | still pretty much off topic |
| 00:07.43 | mmnicolas | ;) |
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| 00:10.29 | amee2k | mine came with DOS 6.22 |
| 00:10.37 | amee2k | the last of the real operating systems |
| 00:10.51 | amee2k | hides |
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| 00:11.11 | mmnicolas | the real mode survived until win98 |
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| 00:11.38 | mmnicolas | remember you could boot into you debian netinst cd with a windows icon |
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| 00:12.07 | mmnicolas | without rebooting |
| 00:14.03 | extnct | does anyone know how to get apt-get to use ipv4 only on a system where ipv6 coexists? |
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| 00:18.28 | martianlobster | is there a 64 bit emulator which I could install a x86_64 version of debian on? |
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| 00:21.11 | man_in_ltop | waves |
| 00:21.25 | man_in_ltop | anyone know if there's a way to force an evdev device to report fewer axes? |
| 00:21.32 | man_in_ltop | http://dpaste.com/238118/ << there's a lot of junk here |
| 00:22.46 | mmnicolas | martianlobster: not from an x86 machien |
| 00:23.26 | mmnicolas | man_in_ltop: i don't see much junk |
| 00:23.42 | man_in_ltop | mmnicolas, there's a whole bunch of "(?)" axes |
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| 00:24.11 | man_in_ltop | something's causing gimp to segfault when i switch to keyboard or mouse after drawing with this tablet |
| 00:24.23 | mmnicolas | what is this ? a wacom ? |
| 00:24.27 | man_in_ltop | debugging revealed nothing. possibly a stack overflow somewhere |
| 00:24.40 | man_in_ltop | mmnicolas, it appears to be supported by the usbhid driver |
| 00:24.46 | mmnicolas | wow, thats a silly bug |
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| 00:25.33 | mmnicolas | no revelant info in a gimp strace ? |
| 00:25.45 | man_in_ltop | don't think i tried strace yet |
| 00:25.49 | man_in_ltop | i tried gdb and valgrind |
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| 00:27.02 | mmnicolas | might be a Xorg bug |
| 00:27.13 | man_in_ltop | well, inkscape doesn't have the same problem |
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| 00:28.09 | man_in_ltop | just created a 9MB strace |
| 00:28.32 | newrocketman | Hi. I'm trying to use a local socket to send a command to VLC but it's not working. When I do 'echo play > .vlc.sock' it says "No such device or address". |
| 00:28.52 | newrocketman | The socket file is there, though. |
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| 00:29.53 | batfog | HAPPY BIRTHDAY WEEV!@ batfog bittu courpse newrocketman yrgd ZenWalker r3c4ll man_in_ltop tehrabbitt grazymax chaisen IanL_ yogurt2ungue cop krabador peterrooney carandraug jcn` HazardX amphi joneal g0bl1n fcn aaroninfidel numberz Multiply DanDare dvs edgardoweb rking pumazi JoshuaP Metaphysicist SQlvpapir drixter b-ker gernot cemeth althalus AngelBroz^aw csd latenite tuv Judas_PhD Someone67 jmary diabolic joghurt Evixion pipegeek hramrach Raptors spikeb Swo |
| 00:29.53 | batfog | HAPPY BIRTHDAY WEEV!@ Cisien_ Knorrie linuxwizard atomx` Agiofws esaym153 Ambagasdowa Theoden |{41444d494e}| AbsintheSyringe jrib droidcore slackerr ehc demisolo_ alpharesearch bit0 ting_ slvmchn bhah llua speedmann enmand SineDeviance cirzgamanti BlackFate Havis woodworks yaaar goldins sedstapler beardy_ kek_ ron_o Ozzapoo emachado lptv MrFahrenheit mazzanet Celelibi tabris @debhelper Frosty|bnc luminoso khaije1 tuntis slon_ chasing`Sol scoopex_ phorce1 tre |
| 00:29.53 | batfog | HAPPY BIRTHDAY WEEV!@ Ha4poon_ niklaswe1backup nathan7_ bluegene_ mnuhmnuh_ helo_ RichiH cherwin tomatto_ DusteD wieshka oblu brammat1r gluon darksk1ez master_of_master ctrl_c Nick3 Tramp hjb magnet versuchsanstalt bjv sphenxes nevyn pengwen Amse pbn syslq jvdm Tommy_DO CharminTheMoose Infin1ty githogori [Echelon] allisterb urbanmonk wawawawa tec themill darthanubis Dbug Ex-Opesa solifugus ram0 psychik pl4yer0ne AimHere Spines nitrile scorche Hopsa cheasee p |
| 00:29.53 | batfog | HAPPY BIRTHDAY WEEV!@ bluethundr djace_ MichaelSOG hercynium xexio WormFood krushik derchris JNSamuel blouf vader-- deStone jhulst asig widmo chattr hagabaka XLV msantana_afk pseubodot andres833 jesst ctp homie {41444d494e}|w jelly-hme dArK_IcE Gijs jae mmnicolas Spami|Thug DGnome magyar xedasx coolmadmax HarryS xqueralt phinaliumz slidesinger-lt RA3OR extor granquet djura-san aguitel Bop Holborn leroux DogWater datacrusher amkrankruleuen tarniak felipe benf |
| 00:29.53 | batfog | HAPPY BIRTHDAY WEEV!@ pht bolt-work adan0s Andorin bbd Jordan_U dpkg darkskiez nrs do0ob Niamor hans_ Jippi_moc lzd MrGeneral pif b52 dodder Xilent_ izibi dwon l0st-soul CoinOpeBoy ^Willie^ ferr panopticon sativouf Granis mo6020 krion bofur efaistos frankie play4_ nebukad1_ Chrono^ hardnrgg mick_laptop misnix DURgod streuner Amorphous kylemcgill km jgeboski ZMo MissionCritical TheGeek1024 pLr iViLe eak ra1nb0w devdvd Rothgar` Bryanstein tonsofpcs gentgeen__ |
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| 00:30.04 | Spami|Thug | fuck |
| 00:30.11 | Multiply | >__> |
| 00:30.16 | LoRez | Spami|Thug: unnecessary |
| 00:30.16 | man_in_ltop | let's everyone hug idoru |
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| 00:30.22 | luminoso | YAY FLOOD DAY |
| 00:30.28 | luminoso | it's party time??!! |
| 00:30.33 | man_in_ltop | mmnicolas, http://filebin.ca/hocawo/gimp-strace.bz2 |
| 00:30.35 | tehrabbitt | happy birthday huh? |
| 00:30.37 | luminoso | runs |
| 00:30.45 | man_in_ltop | and anyone else who wants to look at it |
| 00:30.45 | BlackFate | well...its a good thing someone knows i exist |
| 00:30.46 | themill | Please go to ##comment-on-spam, if is you want to talk about that nonsense. |
| 00:30.50 | magyar | iceweasel 3.6 for squeeze? |
| 00:31.16 | man_in_ltop | themill, or we could all hug idoru and leave it at that |
| 00:31.54 | Knorrie | 's birthday was on 2nd of sep, the flooder was too late :) |
| 00:32.29 | slvmchn | jahhhhpy birthday weev |
| 00:33.10 | mmnicolas | themill: this channel doesnt even exist |
| 00:33.32 | bittu | okkkkkkkk |
| 00:33.36 | enmand | Man, the flooders are bad today |
| 00:33.53 | themill | mmnicolas: umm.. it does and it has 50 people in it. |
| 00:33.55 | stew | mmnicolas: it does, there are 50 people in it |
| 00:34.00 | themill | Now can we move on please? |
| 00:34.10 | mmnicolas | oh, forgot the double # |
| 00:34.23 | mmnicolas | sorry |
| 00:35.13 | bittu | it's ok |
| 00:35.16 | mmnicolas | ok, what's next |
| 00:35.33 | bittu | i don't no |
| 00:36.15 | mmnicolas | does anyone ever tried to use rsync's output with a dialog or whiptail --gauge ?, ive been trying for months |
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| 00:38.00 | mmnicolas | a friend of mine made C program to convert it to %, later i used sed to extract the number of remaining files and the total number of files, i still need to do math operations on this single string |
| 00:38.24 | mmnicolas | and the sed line is as long as my last line |
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| 00:39.08 | mmnicolas | but then im wondering, doesnt the textual debian installer shows a dialog gauge while installing ? |
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| 00:39.50 | mmnicolas | it doesnt use rsync, but im sure it would be a better example than the examples provided in the dialog package |
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| 00:40.27 | ceduardo | helo. |
| 00:40.36 | mmnicolas | helo |
| 00:41.23 | man_in_ltop | oleh |
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| 00:43.02 | BlackFate | mmnicolas, with rsync you cant know the total number of files changed... :-/ |
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| 00:44.10 | ceduardo | what are talking? |
| 00:44.11 | tehrabbitt | WTF |
| 00:44.15 | Multiply | Wtf is up with spammers tonight? -_- |
| 00:44.19 | tehrabbitt | What is this shit? |
| 00:44.28 | madi | ? |
| 00:44.30 | luminoso | çpçpçpç |
| 00:44.33 | BlackFate | so much effort to just call my name ? :D |
| 00:44.35 | amee2k | I_Died_Once is spamming again :P |
| 00:44.41 | dondelelcaro | it's just spammers folks; ignore them. |
| 00:44.41 | man_in_ltop | lol, queensland optus :D |
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| 00:44.47 | mmnicolas | BlackFate: ? really, it shows something called "Total transferred:" |
| 00:45.01 | ceduardo | Yeap ignore them... |
| 00:45.10 | tehrabbitt | dondelelcaro: I realize that, but the same stupid "happy birthday" message from two different people... it's like wtf? |
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| 00:46.14 | man_in_ltop | <tehrabbitt> dondelelcaro: I realize that, but the same stupid "happy birthday" message from the same troll spammer with a different nick... it's like wtf? |
| 00:46.17 | man_in_ltop | ^^ fixed for you |
| 00:46.25 | BlackFate | mmnicolas, but at the end of the process... you cant know those numbers at the beggining to make the % progress bar work... |
| 00:46.42 | mmnicolas | what's a WEEV ? |
| 00:47.02 | tehrabbitt | LOL |
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| 00:47.12 | mmnicolas | BlackFate: try rsync with --progress --stats |
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| 00:47.34 | mmnicolas | BlackFate: i have a to-check=(24392/25392) |
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| 00:48.06 | madi | is it a bot or something like that? |
| 00:48.06 | mmnicolas | BlackFate: i have extracted these numbers, now i just need to do some basic math operations |
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| 00:56.33 | krabador | fuck the "happy birthday ..." messages!!!!! |
| 00:56.46 | nutron | spam is off topic... yes? So I suppose I can't sell anyone some V14gr4? |
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| 00:59.37 | Cataphract | hey, how do I include ACL information in tar file (or some other archive format)? |
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| 01:00.19 | _val_ | guys is rc.local used on debian to run apps on startup? |
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| 01:03.47 | Tramp | Cataphract: by using an archiver that supports it |
| 01:04.02 | Tramp | Cataphract: e.g. star |
| 01:04.02 | _val_ | I've /etc/rc.local there is no /etc/rc.d/rc.local |
| 01:04.09 | _val_ | so dides that matter? |
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| 01:04.56 | Cataphract | The package star doesn't seem to be available anymore |
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| 01:06.32 | Cataphract | Hum, there's an ubuntu package. I suppose I can try to to build it |
| 01:07.15 | patriick | how to disable dht? i dont see it in the sample rtorrent.rc file |
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| 01:09.04 | Tramp | Cataphract: check bsdtar |
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| 01:10.16 | Cataphract | Tramp: OK, thanks |
| 01:10.23 | Tramp | yw |
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| 01:11.57 | ryoohki | how do i verify packges like "rpm -Va". some script ran chgrp -R on /usr/bin and i need to reset the group ids on the files |
| 01:11.59 | _val_ | found it |
| 01:12.08 | _val_ | thnx fur nothing |
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| 01:15.56 | newrocketman | on xterm |
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| 01:36.18 | stew | ryoohki: #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org |
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| 01:48.42 | ryoohki | stew: thanks |
| 01:48.48 | yardleydobon | Does ImageMagick have a flag or method that will tell me precision has been lost by reading an image with a bit depth greater than the quantum depth? |
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| 01:54.10 | locojay | hi how can i kill multiple process at a time : ps - ax | grep something | killthen all? |
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| 01:58.09 | ryoohki | yardleydobon: try #imagemagick |
| 01:59.17 | yardleydobon | ryoohki: #imagemagick is fairly dead |
| 01:59.17 | nutron | hmm, I've "skimmed" the manpage for find, anyone know how I can get it to return a list of directories with no user assigned to it? ls shows the uid assigned, but it doesn't correspond to a user since they've been deleted.. |
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| 01:59.32 | peterrooney | locojay: awk might work better than grep - for p in `ps -ef | awk ' /something/ {print $2;}' ` ; do kill -15 $p ;done |
| 02:00.10 | ryoohki | locojay: man pkill or ps auxww | egrep [r]egex | xargs kill -I '{}' kill '{}' or kill -1 $( ps auxww | egrep [r]egex ) |
| 02:00.28 | locojay | thnks |
| 02:01.20 | nutron | nvm -nouser doesn't actually need a uid like I had read in the man page |
| 02:01.37 | peterrooney | loves awk and caresses it, disturbing many right-thinking folk |
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| 02:03.34 | ryoohki | nutron: -nouser doesn't do what you want? |
| 02:03.54 | nutron | ryoohki: I mis-understood the option, it sure does do what I want. |
| 02:04.01 | nutron | nvm == nevermind |
| 02:04.09 | ryoohki | nutron: thanks |
| 02:04.25 | nutron | ryoohki: for what? :) |
| 02:04.37 | ryoohki | nutron: nvm info |
| 02:05.01 | ryoohki | nutron: also verifying that -nouser works like i thought it should |
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| 02:05.19 | nutron | ryoohki: np np. |
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| 02:08.13 | gnarface | OMG so i was in here off and on over the past month or so complaining about how debian was pausing randomly during boot mysteriously, and just as mysteriously pressing a key would "unpause" it and boot would continue. no errors, no clear cause in the init setups, no sign of a struggle in the logs... nothing. anyone remember? |
| 02:08.32 | gnarface | well if you do... you'll never guess what fixed it; BIOS FLASH |
| 02:09.21 | un214 | that's rich |
| 02:09.30 | gnarface | just thought i'd report it if anyone else runs into a similar problem with an asus or other brand of amd/am2+ board |
| 02:09.50 | thepro4ever | wtf is bios flash |
| 02:10.30 | gnarface | thepro4ever: turn in your geek card. your license has been revoked |
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| 02:13.33 | thepro4ever | sigh |
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| 02:39.34 | SuperMiguel | any idea on why im getting this: http://pastebin.com/mTuNe7M2 |
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| 02:41.38 | un214 | is your system clock off? |
| 02:41.55 | SuperMiguel | let me check |
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| 02:42.40 | SuperMiguel | it is |
| 02:42.58 | gnarface | SuperMiguel: make clean? |
| 02:43.50 | nooper | i may be blind, but whats the error in that pastebin? |
| 02:44.01 | SuperMiguel | its not there actually :P |
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| 02:44.08 | SuperMiguel | i was just saw that |
| 02:44.12 | SuperMiguel | one sec |
| 02:44.15 | gnarface | that's what i'm not getting - what's wrong? it looks like it worked, whatever you're compiling |
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| 02:44.43 | tharkun | I get this message whenever i call fetchmail and when it retrieves any mail it posts this error fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused. any ideas |
| 02:44.57 | SuperMiguel | http://pastebin.com/dCwVFmQs |
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| 02:46.06 | jhutchins_lt | tharkun: really hard to guess with so little info, but I'd say you don't have a local smtp set up (correctly). |
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| 02:46.54 | gnarface | SuperMiguel: uh, maybe because you don't have the libreadline-dev package installed? |
| 02:47.03 | nooper | SuperMiguel: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-615540.html says you need the 'build-essential' package installed, from apt[itude] |
| 02:47.16 | nooper | but thats ubuntuforums, so i dunno how credible it is |
| 02:47.29 | SuperMiguel | nooper, i did that but no go |
| 02:47.39 | gnarface | SuperMiguel: dpkg -l |grep libreadline |
| 02:48.34 | jhutchins_lt | Um, dpkg -l read* ? |
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| 02:48.45 | SuperMiguel | gnarface, that worked thanks :) |
| 02:48.51 | tharkun | jhutchins_lt: that is what puzzles me. I have a full running mta with a custom configuration. Actually both configurations are imported from lenny where they worked flawlessly |
| 02:49.06 | jhutchins_lt | ermn, no that won't work, dpkg -l libread* |
| 02:49.53 | jhutchins_lt | tharkun: Well, we know lenny works. When squeeze doesn't, we go back to lenny and we file bugs. |
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| 02:51.13 | tharkun | jhutchins_lt: That is what puzzles me most. It complains, yet fetchmail still delivers the mail what would be a good place to start debugging ? |
| 02:51.14 | jhutchins_lt | ::1/25 looks suspiciously like you are messing with ipv6. |
| 02:51.36 | jhutchins_lt | Which generally doesn't work. |
| 02:52.13 | tharkun | jhutchins_lt: postfix is not the one making the fuss, lets see what fetchmail is doing. Thx for the info |
| 02:52.24 | gnarface | tharkun: there are supposed to be some default mappings to ipv6 versions of the localhost address in your /etc/hosts did you perchance remove them in fear and anger? |
| 02:52.42 | tharkun | gnarface: haven't touch them yet |
| 02:53.04 | tharkun | two days with squeeze and i am still looking for a replacement for ion3 |
| 02:53.11 | pdg1 | so I can't seem to figure out how to get a list of my hardware and configure the 2 other HDD's i had on this comp. I used to use sudo lshw |
| 02:54.17 | tharkun | gnarface: I see what you mean should i comment the IPv6 lines ? no use for them around here anyway. |
| 02:54.31 | pdg1 | no idea where to start... FAQ's and support wiki's are starting to make my eyes burn :( |
| 02:55.26 | tharkun | pdg1: why don't you install that package and go on from there ? |
| 02:55.39 | gnarface | tharkun: i wouldn't touch them, i would instead first portscan to see if 25 is even open, then i would figure out if your program has a problem with ipv6 and try to point it to the ipv4 address instead |
| 02:55.51 | pdg1 | huh... lshw is a package? |
| 02:56.06 | tharkun | apt-cache search lshw |
| 02:56.58 | pdg1 | tharkun, thanks :) |
| 02:58.00 | tharkun | pdg1: np |
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| 02:59.42 | tharkun | gnarface: port 25 is open on both 127.0.0.1 and local ip. I am closing the local ip just to be on the safe side . |
| 02:59.59 | tharkun | I have to reloacate this machine bbim |
| 03:00.01 | gnarface | tharkun: shouldn't be an issue. if you want to be safe it's the public ip you should be closing |
| 03:00.55 | tharkun | gnarface: I know and an mx record should be pointing into it. |
| 03:00.59 | tharkun | bbim |
| 03:01.16 | gnarface | suspects this is tharkun's issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1323084 |
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| 03:15.46 | Rockj | Anyone used the "cpu" utility? (providing usermod, useradd etc on ldap backend). I have a problem with it not finding my "user", but cpu cat show's the ldap users and even mine. |
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| 03:18.44 | gnarface | not i, Rockj, sorry |
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| 03:18.51 | gnarface | what are you using LDAP for? |
| 03:19.03 | gnarface | (other than the obvious) |
| 03:19.22 | Rockj | SSO (single sign on) |
| 03:19.32 | gnarface | that's what i meant about obvious |
| 03:19.34 | Rockj | so uses across websystems and some desktops. |
| 03:19.40 | gnarface | ah web integration |
| 03:20.13 | gnarface | that makes sense. last time i did this it was linux-only shell accounts so i just used NIS |
| 03:20.26 | gnarface | clunky but much easier to set up |
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| 03:20.51 | Rockj | NIS already activated, but usermod and the default utilities doesn't support it |
| 03:21.11 | Rockj | so I can't just use "usermod" on the command line, as it doesnt follow NIS directives for some reason |
| 03:21.55 | Rockj | usermod: username not found in /etc/passwd |
| 03:22.02 | gnarface | hmm. debian right? |
| 03:22.10 | gnarface | i think you're supposed to be using the debian native tools |
| 03:22.15 | gnarface | adduser instead of useradd, etc |
| 03:22.21 | Rockj | yes, so it doesn't use getent passwd. |
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| 03:22.41 | gnarface | DESCRIPTION |
| 03:22.41 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.41 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.41 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.43 | Rockj | gnarface: hm, what's the equaliant for usermod then? |
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| 03:23.15 | acu_ | what is the common text editor ? |
| 03:23.19 | acu_ | most common |
| 03:23.53 | gnarface | acu_: use nano if you are new. most people eventually graduate to vi or emacs but they're not exactly friendly for beginners. |
| 03:23.58 | acu_ | I use nano, but I see a lot of vi, which I found cumbersome |
| 03:24.24 | gnarface | emacs is cumbersome in different ways, but i prefer it primarily because you can delete and add text in the same mode |
| 03:24.36 | acu_ | why vi and emacs ? - masochist pride - or some intrinsic value and benefit I cannot see |
| 03:24.48 | Rockj | acu_: I use vim , but it's kinda up to your own liking. My suggestion would be to run vitutor or emacs equaliant tutor if there is one. |
| 03:25.10 | gnarface | Rockj: hmm. not sure... maybe you can do that stuff with adduser/addgroup flags. check the adduser man page in man 8 |
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| 03:25.40 | Rockj | gnarface: I'm trying to modify a user, not adding a new one.. |
| 03:25.52 | gnarface | acu_: think of it like learning to drive a car with a manual transmission instead of an automatic. sure the automatic is way easier, but once you've learned manual you never go back |
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| 03:28.08 | tharkun | gnarface: I'm back netstat shows on port 25 master (postfix's master process) I can't find the global fetchmail configuration file yet |
| 03:28.19 | gnarface | tharkun: i think i figured out your problem. just guessing here - i think exim is only using the ipv4 localhost address by default. you need to run dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and set it to use the ipv6 addresses too. |
| 03:28.49 | acu_ | gnarface: got your nice example, still not clear why in the world vi is so popular - it should have something I do not see, that what I was asking - in other words what vi can do what nano can't ? |
| 03:28.51 | gnarface | tharkun: check this ubuntu forum and see if it looks like your problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1323084 |
| 03:28.53 | tharkun | gnarface: That is impossible. :) no exim here |
| 03:29.00 | gnarface | oh |
| 03:29.12 | gnarface | tharkun: same issue with your chosen mta maybe? lots of stuff defaults to ipv4 only |
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| 03:29.36 | Rockj | acu_: simply example, using regex to simply replace words. Open multiple files at once etc etc |
| 03:29.48 | gnarface | acu_: all kinds of shit. regexp search+replace, plugins, advanced editing macros, etc |
| 03:29.59 | Rockj | acu_: my suggestion for you, if you want to try out vi/vim. Try vimtutor and try the tutorial |
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| 03:30.02 | tharkun | gnarface: yep i believe you are right yet i prefer fetchmail to stick with ipv4 though i will take a look at the url you gave me. thx |
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| 03:30.56 | gnarface | acu_: my alternate suggestion for you, is to try out emacs. it has a built-in tutorial (there's a link on the default page when you open it) |
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| 03:31.24 | gnarface | i write code for a living, and i don't think i could survive without emacs. |
| 03:31.37 | acu_ | thanks RockJ; it seem that I have to swallow a pill I might not need :) but just in case, because I am obedient (which compensate for inteligence and forsight) :) Thanks guys -so the bottom line is that vi and emacs rule - nano is kind of ridiculous amateurish :) |
| 03:31.38 | gnarface | if all you're doing is editing config files nano is perfectly suitable for most cases |
| 03:31.55 | tharkun | acu_: Actually there is little vi can do that nano can't. First thing is you save two characters when starting it :) |
| 03:32.06 | acu_ | lol |
| 03:32.35 | gnarface | there is little emacs can do that nano can't either... it's more about how fast you can do it, and how much you can automate |
| 03:32.41 | gnarface | (and large file support is nice to have too) |
| 03:32.43 | acu_ | tharnkun: that's a concrete example of the advantage of vi (since nano does what was mention before for vi :) |
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| 03:33.31 | gnarface | although emacs also has a built-in tetris clone and a psychoanalyst bot. nano can't do that :-p |
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| 03:34.06 | tharkun | acu_: Actually all editors end up in one small factor. How well you interact with them and how much automation you can get out of them for the usual tasks you perform |
| 03:34.13 | Rockj | but please, don't start an editor war. We have a saying: "Different people have different taste". Just try em both, and stick with one of em or play with both. Only YOU know what you like acu_ :-) |
| 03:34.28 | acu_ | for sure the psychoanalyst is the feature we all need (we are kind of screwed up species - and debianish have a strong tint of masochism :) than emacs psycho is the way |
| 03:34.55 | un214 | well I prefer psychic editor |
| 03:34.58 | un214 | I think, it types |
| 03:34.58 | gnarface | masochism is strong with the linux tribe |
| 03:35.02 | acu_ | Rockj: not at all - I am so glad and thankful for your advice and hints - really |
| 03:35.05 | patriick | how to remove only certian packages |
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| 03:35.11 | patriick | when they go together |
| 03:35.33 | patriick | ex. i need to remove rtorrent and not libtorrent |
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| 03:36.38 | peterrooney | !start an editor war |
| 03:36.38 | dpkg | pico blows. |
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| 03:39.15 | stew | patriick: aptitude remove rtorrent libtorrent+ |
| 03:39.55 | stew | patriick: or probably: aptitude unmarkauto libtorrent ; aptitude remove rtorrent |
| 03:40.06 | tharkun | stew: thx nice work with tritium |
| 03:40.16 | stew | heh, thanks |
| 03:40.29 | stew | quadrillion is in the works |
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| 03:41.18 | stew | tharkun: you've used it? |
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| 03:41.37 | tharkun | tritium yes, although it crashed a lot on lenny |
| 03:42.00 | stew | and you didn't send me patches! |
| 03:42.06 | patriick | stew: thanks, but im really just trying to compile rtorrent and keep getting error saying |
| 03:42.09 | patriick | configure: error: Package requirements (libtorrent >= 0.12.6) |
| 03:42.22 | stew | patriick: what compile it instead of just installing it? |
| 03:42.42 | tharkun | stew: i am not that fluent in python, i upgraded to squeeze recently and it is on my todo list |
| 03:42.43 | gnarface | patriick: you need to install libtorrent-dev |
| 03:43.04 | gnarface | debian doesn't install compilation headers by default with the run-time libraries. |
| 03:43.07 | patriick | stew: yes i want to the latest version :| |
| 03:43.55 | stew | tharkun: i've actually only once got a patch, and it was just a .desktop file, which doens't make a ton of sense for a window manager |
| 03:43.58 | moldovean | !i want |
| 03:43.58 | dpkg | I want a frostee! NOW!! |
| 03:44.21 | stew | patriick: apt-get build-dep rtorrent |
| 03:44.33 | stew | patriick: or perhaps /msg dpkg ssb |
| 03:44.44 | patriick | will that put me on v8? |
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| 03:45.12 | stew | , versions rtorrent |
| 03:45.13 | judd | rtorrent -- etch: 0.6.4-1; lenny: 0.7.9-2.2; sid: 0.8.6-1; squeeze: 0.8.6-1 |
| 03:45.20 | stew | patriick: ssb would put you on 0.8.6 |
| 03:45.32 | patriick | O_O |
| 03:45.48 | acu_ | thanks guys - see you around :) |
| 03:45.49 | Alystair | tharkun: what's tritium ? |
| 03:45.54 | Alystair | other than a radioactive gas |
| 03:45.56 | patriick | wish i would've known that before i wasted 2 hours trying to copmile |
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| 03:46.15 | tharkun | Alystair: tiled window manager that resembles the behaviour of ion |
| 03:46.18 | patriick | now i feel like i made a mess; how to clean up :( |
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| 03:47.50 | stew | except no 'scratchpad', which turns out to be a huge pain on the janky window manager library i wrote it on, which is the reason I'm rewriting it to talk directly through xcb now |
| 03:47.55 | gnarface | patriick: sometimes there is a make uninstall - but i like using the checkinstall tool - ensures clean uninstalling of unpackaged src trees (by dynamically creating a package for you on install) |
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| 03:48.35 | patriick | i mean where does all that crap go when it gets an error when its almost done compiling |
| 03:48.41 | patriick | i dont mind having the packages installed |
| 03:49.21 | patriick | stew: what does that command even do |
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| 03:50.46 | stew | patriick: which command? |
| 03:51.07 | patriick | stew: apt-get build=dep rtorrent |
| 03:51.37 | stew | patriick: build-dep, not build=dep. it tries to fetche the packages required for building rtorrent |
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| 03:51.55 | patriick | waat lol |
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| 03:54.26 | tharkun | gnarface: fixed it was the mta not listening on ipv6 protocol |
| 03:54.39 | gnarface | tharkun: hooraaay! |
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| 03:55.15 | tharkun | gnarface: to fix it on postfix you have to set " inet_protocols = all" and bingo all done |
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| 03:55.33 | gnarface | patriick: if you're compiling something and you don't ever run make install typically none of it leaves the source directory |
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| 03:56.51 | nsadmin | in fact it would be seriously weird if it did |
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| 04:09.33 | peterrooney | i think it would be a reportable bug if it did. |
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| 04:12.03 | gnarface | well i had no idea whether he might have been following some tutorial that instructs him to do an out-of-tree compilation or something wierd like that |
| 04:12.51 | gnarface | based on the clear lack of the user's basic knowledge of the process i figured it was safer to be less specific |
| 04:13.04 | gnarface | maybe that was wrong of me |
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| 04:24.14 | patriick | throws up |
| 04:24.26 | patriick | welp i messed up and made quite a big mess as root |
| 04:24.38 | patriick | i give up |
| 04:24.40 | MichaelBurns | ut oh |
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| 04:28.52 | JasonWoof | transmission-daemon package description (unstable) says it includes transmission-remote but it doesn't |
| 04:29.03 | JasonWoof | 1) should I file a bug? |
| 04:29.11 | JasonWoof | 2) how do I get transmission-remote command and man page? |
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| 04:31.00 | Bushmills | transmission-cli contains it |
| 04:31.47 | JasonWoof | ahh, there it is. my search failed because I did apt-cache search instead of apt-file search |
| 04:32.02 | JasonWoof | ok, should I file a bug about the package description(s)? |
| 04:32.36 | patriick | aptitude autoclean doesn't do anything |
| 04:32.44 | patriick | is there an alternative |
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| 04:40.49 | JasonWoof | hmmm... now wouldn't it be nice if transmission-remote actually worked. transmission is sending 403 even when I tell it to disable authentication completely. |
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| 05:03.13 | gnarface | patriick: what are you trying to do? do you mean apt-get autoremove? |
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| 05:03.19 | gnarface | or apt-get clean? |
| 05:04.17 | rozie | hello |
| 05:04.50 | rozie | does anybody know if Debian patches kernel to see all drives as /dev/sdX? |
| 05:05.11 | rozie | I have 2.6.32-5-686 from Squeeze |
| 05:05.53 | homie` | i have 2.6.34 |
| 05:06.22 | rozie | then I made vanilla 2.6.32.21 with the config from 2.6.32-5-686 (cp /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686 .config ; make-kpkg --revision=1.0 --initrd kernel_image) |
| 05:06.43 | rozie | there were some questions, and I left them on default setting |
| 05:07.04 | rozie | after rebooting to 2.6.32.21, hard disc is seen as /dev/hdX |
| 05:07.17 | rozie | diff /boot/config-2.6.32.21 /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686 |
| 05:07.24 | rozie | http://pastebin.com/fD8QJCkA |
| 05:08.00 | gnarface | my /dev/hdX drives all changed to /dev/sdX drives |
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| 05:08.23 | patriick | gnarface: hmm maybe let me try it |
| 05:08.41 | rozie | I don't see significant difference, so I wonder if there's a patch or something like that |
| 05:08.50 | rozie | gnarface: when did they change? |
| 05:09.04 | gnarface | i forget. recently - maybe with the udev version that 2.6.32 requires. |
| 05:09.27 | rozie | that should be irrevelant |
| 05:09.29 | gnarface | i'm not sure whether it's a bug or a feature or a clever plot to force everyone to give up and use those fucking heinous UUID things |
| 05:09.48 | rozie | I have all packages in the same version |
| 05:09.58 | rozie | only kernel was changed |
| 05:10.32 | gnarface | must have been the kernel then |
| 05:10.56 | rozie | and I use UUIDs. But on start it asks for partition from which can resume |
| 05:11.10 | yardleydobon | i thought h was for PATA and s for SATA |
| 05:11.10 | rozie | and I need to type /dev/hda3 |
| 05:11.45 | rozie | yardleydobon: it's pata. but it's seen as /dev/sdX in Debian's kernel (Squeeze) |
| 05:11.48 | homie` | the /dev on boot is not the same like after it... |
| 05:11.58 | gnarface | yardleydobon: yes but sd was also for scsi generic stuff, like usb thumb drives - but now everything is sd |
| 05:12.08 | jelly-hme | gnarface: LABELs are a bit more palatable |
| 05:12.22 | homie` | sysfs,udev sucks... |
| 05:12.25 | rozie | can you take a look on this diff http://pastebin.com/fD8QJCkA ? |
| 05:12.26 | gnarface | so i've heard, jelly-hme, but i fear change |
| 05:12.34 | rozie | maybe I missed something |
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| 05:12.46 | jelly-hme | there's no real change, just label everything and use them |
| 05:13.02 | rozie | jelly-hme: not a solution, as I written |
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| 05:13.26 | rozie | jelly-hme: 07:10 < rozie> and I use UUIDs. But on start it asks for partition from which can resume |
| 05:14.03 | jelly-hme | rozie: after running update-grub and update-initramfs as well? |
| 05:14.16 | homie` | that's the initramfs-tools thing, which doesn't see any uuids |
| 05:14.59 | rozie | anyway, it's not a big problem. But I'd like to know why it seems at the same kernel version in different way |
| 05:15.06 | homie` | or you have to tell it ...i don't know haven't tried it that way.. |
| 05:15.37 | homie` | libata/piix ahci |
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| 05:15.41 | jelly-hme | rozie: it's not the same kernel, and not the same configration options |
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| 05:15.50 | homie` | different modules defaults |
| 05:17.00 | jelly-hme | rozie: Debian .config has switched to using libata-based drivers for most hardware, thus providing /dev/sd* devices for disks on those controllers |
| 05:17.24 | jelly-hme | your custom .config may be set up to do something else |
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| 05:20.29 | jelly-hme | rozie: I _think_ the message you mention belongs to uswsusp hooks in the initramfs image and may indicate a need to change uswsusp configuration if there are hardcoded options somewhere (/etc/suspend.conf? dunno) |
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| 05:21.10 | p3rror | hello |
| 05:21.18 | jelly-hme | rozie: if it also says it tried to resume from device foo but failed, hunt for foo in /etc |
| 05:21.19 | rozie | I'll take a look. had some problems with resume and I'm not sure if I still have UUID used there |
| 05:21.50 | homie` | the resume device is listed in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf or so |
| 05:22.04 | rozie | jelly-hme: and kernel version and kernel config is as same as it can be |
| 05:22.19 | p3rror | i need to install linux headers |
| 05:22.26 | p3rror | and i get this message http://pastebin.com/MkRXVNtv |
| 05:22.31 | p3rror | pleas can you tell me |
| 05:22.38 | jelly-hme | I used to have a hardcoded kernel boot param in /etc/default grub for resume, but things _ought to_ work |
| 05:22.41 | jelly-hme | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="8250.nr_uarts=0 video=i915 i915.modeset=1 resume=/dev/sda6" |
| 05:22.43 | p3rror | why i going on |
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| 05:22.50 | p3rror | what's going on |
| 05:23.30 | homie` | they all have to be used by uuid's |
| 05:23.38 | jelly-hme | p3rror: which debian release are you using? |
| 05:23.40 | homie` | that's going on... |
| 05:24.03 | jelly-hme | homie`: I'm not sure UUIDs work from resume= boot parameter at all |
| 05:24.08 | rozie | p3rror: looks like linux-headers-2.6.30-2-686 is installed |
| 05:24.29 | rozie | p3rror: choose 'no' there |
| 05:24.44 | homie` | that's what i tell...the after boot depends on uuid's as some sysfs features seem to be deprecated on newer kernels... |
| 05:24.48 | p3rror | jelly-hme, squeeze |
| 05:24.51 | jelly-hme | p3rror: if you are using debian testing (squeeze), you have an old kernel. |
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| 05:25.13 | jelly-hme | p3rror: install linux-image-686 and linux-headers-686 and reboto into 2.6.32-something |
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| 05:25.28 | homie` | and the before boot things like the initramfs etc... i don't know if they understand uuid at all... |
| 05:25.51 | jelly-hme | p3rror: er, sorry, linux-headers-686 doesn't exist. |
| 05:26.19 | homie` | i got problems with cryptdisks, not finding my crypted swap for example |
| 05:26.25 | homie` | i can only swapon it after boot |
| 05:26.28 | jelly-hme | p3rror: but reboot into a newer kernel anyway, you'll be able to install its linux-headers-*. |
| 05:26.41 | homie` | the dev mapper does not map it |
| 05:26.48 | rozie | jelly-hme: I have setting like this: |
| 05:26.49 | rozie | /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume |
| 05:26.50 | rozie | RESUME=UUID=79ac4030-bc54-4752-9515-b7f56a5f0fec |
| 05:27.15 | jelly-hme | rozie: change that to /dev/sdawhatever and see if it helps |
| 05:27.18 | homie` | it does map after boot however... |
| 05:27.31 | p3rror | thanks jelly-hme, |
| 05:27.46 | rozie | jelly-hme: I cannot change it to /dev/sdX and /dev/hdX in the same time |
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| 05:27.59 | jelly-hme | rozie: so don't boot the old kernel any more. |
| 05:28.12 | rozie | <sigh> |
| 05:28.52 | homie` | it does map it to dm-0 ... ?? |
| 05:28.57 | jelly-hme | or don't hibernate with the old kernel any more |
| 05:29.10 | homie` | i don't know but which layer is in charge of that udev ? |
| 05:29.21 | rozie | I need to use both kernels. That's why I'm trying to explain why one sees disk as /dev/sdX and second kernel as /dev/hdX |
| 05:29.50 | rozie | jelly-hme: I don't hibernate. It hangs for input resume partition after normal reboot |
| 05:30.03 | jelly-hme | rozie: do you also require uswsusp? If you remove it and regenerate initramfs, that part will be skipped |
| 05:30.29 | homie` | uswsusp has it's own disk reference in some config in it's own folder change that too maybe ? |
| 05:30.40 | rozie | jelly-hme: that's good point. especially that resume does not work at all from some time |
| 05:30.55 | jelly-hme | rozie: but it's going to hang for one kernel only, depending on what you put in that /etc/ file |
| 05:30.59 | rozie | I posted some bugs, but unfortunately no answer |
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| 05:31.33 | rozie | jelly-hme: I'd rather find out *why* one kernel uses /dev/hdX and fix it ;) |
| 05:31.43 | rozie | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=574653 |
| 05:32.02 | rozie | maybe I use incorrect file? (/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume) |
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| 05:32.45 | rozie | and there's my second bug for this package http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=583525 |
| 05:36.16 | jelly-hme | rozie: I'm not sure UUID stays the same when the swapfile is overwritten with the hibernate image. Not accounting for that would be silly |
| 05:37.59 | rozie | hmm. I'm sure it worked for some time |
| 05:38.19 | rozie | but I'll check with /dev/sda3 there in a moment |
| 05:38.28 | rozie | I miss hibernation |
| 05:39.58 | jelly-hme | is it partition 3 or 6 then? |
| 05:40.23 | rozie | 3. why 6? |
| 05:40.46 | jelly-hme | oh, nm, I can't read |
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| 06:04.34 | JasonPilton | Anyone know a package or small program or something that will allow me to get the seed and peer information (i.e how many seeds/peers currently connected) of a particular torrent? Preferably with a treminal command |
| 06:05.03 | JasonPilton | i am not looking for a full torrent client, not trying to download |
| 06:05.41 | patriick | JasonPilton: rtorrent |
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| 06:06.08 | JasonPilton | patriick: cool, i'll check it out thanks |
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| 06:06.10 | patriick | guys what to do when u have more than one private ssh key |
| 06:06.35 | JasonPilton | you'll have to delete the old one |
| 06:06.41 | patriick | for two diff servers |
| 06:06.48 | JasonPilton | oh |
| 06:07.43 | Dewi | patriick: it's fine to have more than one |
| 06:07.52 | neoice | ok, so its alluded me in several google searches. whats the best way to build a .deb with a local version number appended? I've just been using dpkg-buildpackage so far. |
| 06:08.16 | Dewi | patriick: whichever ones you have loaded will auth with servers that recognise that identity |
| 06:08.20 | patriick | Dewi: yeah but i get prompted for the wrong key with the wrong server |
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| 06:08.38 | patriick | Dewi: they share the same name.. |
| 06:08.43 | Dewi | patriick: are you using a ssh key agent? |
| 06:08.50 | patriick | ew no |
| 06:09.23 | Dewi | patriick: well you can use -i to specify one... |
| 06:10.38 | Dewi | it can't automatically select if they're all encrypted, afaik |
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| 06:11.07 | patriick | dewi yeah this ^ lol |
| 06:11.10 | Dewi | (hence the agent) |
| 06:11.27 | patriick | do i just need to manually switch them out |
| 06:12.24 | Dewi | patriick: you can do per-host configuration. See man ssh_config |
| 06:13.04 | Dewi | under "IdentityFile" it has some optional fields you can use to qualify how each identity is to be used |
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| 06:15.58 | gizmore | i have problem with phpmyadmin on lenny: "The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret)." - but the secret seems to exist. |
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| 06:18.49 | gizmore | nvm solved it |
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| 06:26.20 | jozefk | where can I get midori for debian 5.0.5 on ppc? |
| 06:26.53 | spikeb | that's only in testing and unstable |
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| 06:28.08 | jozefk | so I can have only iceweasel and epiphany? |
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| 06:29.34 | spikeb | there's also konqueror |
| 06:29.50 | spikeb | jand kazehakase |
| 06:30.03 | jozefk | :) ok. will try to see if opera could work |
| 06:30.11 | spikeb | should |
| 06:30.16 | jozefk | jand kazehakase? |
| 06:30.28 | spikeb | i meant "and" not "jand" |
| 06:30.36 | neoice | so apt-pinning is listed as "deprecated." is there already / going to be a new method for running mixed systems? |
| 06:30.50 | spikeb | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/kazehakase |
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| 06:31.31 | jelly-hme | neoice: oh, where is it listed as deprecated? |
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| 06:31.55 | neoice | jelly-hme: I guess its just the whole "APT-HOWTO" is "deprecated / outdated" |
| 06:32.17 | D4rKr0W | spikeb: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=15612 |
| 06:32.21 | neoice | strange how sometimes things make more sense at midnight. |
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| 06:35.25 | pht | hi |
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| 06:36.41 | pht | i need to migrate some centos package creation script to debian package creation. are there some resources on how these two relate? |
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| 06:47.13 | jozefk | i don't see kazehakase for ppc |
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| 06:48.06 | jozefk | I got it |
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| 06:52.15 | CQ | hello, anyone here using backupninja? I want to run a backup conditionally, i.e. if a drive is mounted... problem is, that I need to do this for several drives, and if one isn't mounten BN stops the backup with a fail... |
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| 07:23.42 | gnarface | does debian have any sort of movement detection software that works with live video feeds, like from a webcam or the like? |
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| 07:24.06 | gnarface | i want to be able to point my webcam at the crack under my front door and have it sound an alarm when a cockroach crawls through |
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| 07:26.35 | pallgone | ,info motion |
| 07:26.37 | judd | motion (graphics, optional): V4L capture program supporting motion detection. Version: 3.2.9-7; Size: 262.2k; Installed: 736k; Homepage: http://motion.sf.net |
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| 07:28.48 | pallgone | gnarface: how about coupling that with a robot arm that squashes the thing? :) |
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| 07:35.07 | karsten | gnarface: yes, there are some motion-detection packages. |
| 07:35.29 | karsten | gnarface: there's also xroach. |
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| 07:36.08 | karsten | sees pallgone's response. Wups. |
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| 07:38.08 | shogun1234 | is there any good way to remove grub2 completely? |
| 07:38.39 | Dewi | shogun1234: what are you replacing it with? |
| 07:39.25 | shogun1234 | unfortunately i have to install windows 7 to make dual boot with debian |
| 07:39.36 | karsten | shogun1234: dd if=<your boot device> bs=512 count=1 |
| 07:39.37 | shogun1234 | but window 7 i only have recovery disc |
| 07:39.56 | shogun1234 | which do not contain any tool to recovery mbr if i have installed grub already |
| 07:39.57 | karsten | shogun1234: get freedos. 'fdisk /mbr' using the DOS fdisk command. |
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| 07:40.19 | karsten | shogun1234: http://www.freedos.org/ |
| 07:40.23 | shogun1234 | ok. thanks. let me try it. |
| 07:40.48 | karsten | shogun1234: I think that's included w/ Windows as well, but coudn't tel you for sure and don't have it to try. |
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| 07:41.29 | pallgone | shogun1234: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ |
| 07:41.36 | karsten | shogun1234: The Windows installer should set the MBR itself anyway. I prever booting w/ GRUB than with NTLDR. |
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| 07:43.14 | shogun1234 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.36 | karsten | shogun1234: Could be worse. |
| 07:43.41 | karsten | shogun1234: it could boot Windows. |
| 07:43.51 | shogun1234 | i've fought with that beast for more than 4 days. really frusrtating! |
| 07:44.10 | karsten | shogun1234: Anything on the HD you need to preserve? |
| 07:44.37 | shogun1234 | no. i only need to make it dual boot. |
| 07:44.55 | shogun1234 | but unfortunate part is i need to install windows |
| 07:45.14 | shogun1234 | which mess up everything/ |
| 07:45.15 | karsten | You already have a Debian installation on it? Do you need to save that install? |
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| 07:46.21 | shogun1234 | no. i have debian cd 1 and gparted. so that's not the problem. |
| 07:46.36 | karsten | Um ... |
| 07:47.07 | karsten | Why not simply nuke the disk and start fresh? dd if=/dev/zero of=<raw device> bs=16M |
| 07:47.09 | gnarface | thanks guys - yea wiring up a hunter/killer drone to kill the roaches and film the process then fuel itself with their burning carcasses would be ideal, but you know - one step at a time here |
| 07:47.13 | karsten | ... and let that run for a while? |
| 07:47.35 | shogun1234 | will dd if .... command simply clean up everything, including mbr? |
| 07:47.49 | karsten | shogun1234: ... will zero the drive, including the MBR and partition tables. If Windows has problems at that point, then you've got other problems. |
| 07:47.53 | karsten | shogun1234: Yes. |
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| 07:48.25 | karsten | shogun1234: downside is that it can take a while. Up to an hour or so for a larger drive. |
| 07:49.14 | shogun1234 | i will try it as well. thank you. |
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| 07:50.44 | karsten | shogun1234: Nuking just the first 1M or so of the device should be enough for it to show as unformatted in pretty much any disk formatting tool. That's a lot faster than a full disk zeroing, might try that first. |
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| 07:51.57 | shogun1234 | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1m? is the right command to nuke the first few pieces? |
| 07:52.06 | shogun1234 | i haven't tried dd before. |
| 07:52.25 | karsten | shogun1234: add a "count=1" to that. |
| 07:52.35 | karsten | shogun1234: read the manpage, as always. |
| 07:52.42 | shogun1234 | thank you very much. |
| 07:53.05 | karsten | shogun1234: 'bs=' gives the block size. 'k' 'm' and 'g' are supported for kilo/mega/giga bytes. |
| 07:53.38 | karsten | shogun1234: 'count=' tells how many blocks to read/write. |
| 07:53.52 | gnarface | the roaches are encroaching!!! |
| 07:53.56 | karsten | shogun1234: There's other options as wel. Syntax is weird because it's actualy a mainframe utiity. |
| 07:54.07 | karsten | gnarface: and they've got a coach. |
| 07:54.42 | karsten | gnarface: There's also 'dmraid' which might help get rid of them. |
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| 08:04.56 | pht | are there network install ISO images for "testing" somewhere? |
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| 08:05.43 | joker_89 | if my server says 686 |
| 08:05.46 | streuner | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 08:05.48 | joker_89 | its ia64 ? |
| 08:05.53 | streuner | no |
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| 08:06.01 | streuner | dpkg, ia64 |
| 08:06.01 | dpkg | [ia64] (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>. |
| 08:06.12 | [v-8]_jupiter | hi all |
| 08:06.16 | streuner | joker_89: what command do you use? |
| 08:06.17 | joker_89 | waht package i need to download? |
| 08:06.21 | joker_89 | proconf |
| 08:06.28 | joker_89 | procinfo |
| 08:06.41 | joker_89 | its for donwload a package manually |
| 08:06.46 | joker_89 | i need to know my architecture |
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| 08:07.00 | allo | hi |
| 08:07.33 | PsychiC | what kind of machine do you have , if it is a later amd or intel (p5) you use the amd64 version |
| 08:07.41 | PsychiC | p4 and older use i386 |
| 08:07.58 | joker_89 | avaliable packages (alpha, amd64,arm, armel, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc) what i need to chose if i have a i686 ? |
| 08:08.07 | PsychiC | amd64 |
| 08:08.09 | joker_89 | how i can know this? |
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| 08:08.26 | streuner | dpkg, i686 |
| 08:08.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, i686 is good |
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| 08:08.31 | streuner | dpkg, 686 |
| 08:08.31 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). You can also use a -686 kernel with the core2 chips for a 32 bit kernel (rather than the amd64 kernel). |
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| 08:08.47 | joker_89 | then amd64 ? |
| 08:09.03 | streuner | dpkg, forget i686 |
| 08:09.03 | dpkg | i forgot i686, streuner |
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| 08:09.23 | joker_89 | i need to install mod_evaisve for apache, but i have deiban 4 and i apt-get install dont know the package |
| 08:09.42 | streuner | joker_89: /msg dpkg search |
| 08:09.48 | cozwei | Hi. I'm installing something by a routine, an the script tries to download something. The problem is, taht the time spent increases biut nothing else. Anybody got an idea how to check whats going wrng? |
| 08:09.53 | [v-8]_jupiter | I use kvm in debian stable to my VPS pochemuto but disappears at the VPS network and host. In / var / log found just such a mistake http://pastebin.pro/59579 |
| 08:10.41 | joker_89 | i need amd64? |
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| 08:10.58 | allo | is it possible to mirror two debian-repositorys with debmirror into one repository? |
| 08:11.21 | streuner | joker_89: /msg dpkg amd64 |
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| 08:11.28 | reb00t | occasionally when my system reboots, it hangs wanting root password and fsck, whats the best way to avoid this? |
| 08:11.35 | joker_89 | dpkg search |
| 08:11.36 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
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| 08:11.49 | cozwei | any ideas wich script ist this:?? |
| 08:11.52 | cozwei | Downloading PyXML... |
| 08:11.52 | cozwei | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.52 | cozwei | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.53 | cozwei | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:12.04 | reb00t | i'm thinking if i put a runlevel1 script that does 'fsck -y /' that I'll never have that problem, is there a better way |
| 08:12.11 | cozwei | 5 rows :) |
| 08:12.36 | streuner | cozwei: allowed are 3 lines, but we prefer usually not more than 2 ;-) |
| 08:12.47 | cozwei | :) sorry. |
| 08:13.12 | cozwei | but do you know what command is used above? |
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| 08:14.28 | jelly-home | reb00t: FSCKFIX variable in /etc/default/rcS |
| 08:14.43 | reb00t | hmm...thx i'll look jelly |
| 08:15.07 | cozwei | streuner: do you know the tool which is used? |
| 08:15.22 | streuner | cozwei: no idea, sorry |
| 08:15.42 | pht | streuner, thanks |
| 08:15.48 | cozwei | i saw this once, but have no idea where... |
| 08:16.47 | reb00t | thx jelly-home that looks like exactly what i'm looking for |
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| 08:17.24 | reb00t | says it may damage filesystems, but i do 'fsck -y /' when i login as root anyways cuz i don't keep sensitive data on / just FS |
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| 08:19.27 | streuner | pht: keep in mind, devel net isos exist out of testing *AND* unstable packages... |
| 08:20.01 | streuner | pht: if you need newer kernel, just look at kmuto's installers too (/msg dpkg kmuto) |
| 08:20.40 | pht | streuner, noted |
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| 08:21.39 | nsadmin | reb00t: you can look at the data on / as sensitive in the sense you need it to boot and to fix the boot. you don't really want to lose it unnecessarily |
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| 08:25.02 | reb00t | indeed, i'm just saying i haven't had any problems doing fsck -y in the past |
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| 08:26.49 | DaDa` | gnarface: google for `Dethlac' or `insectrol spray' |
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| 08:28.52 | pht | streuner, true enough the kernel is somewhat dated :) |
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| 08:29.59 | Guest78320 | Hello, I have a program that keeps throwing "Too man open files" error. I googled and found a couple of solutions. Now I have modified my /etc/security/limits.conf file and added * hard nofile 65536 and * soft nofile 32768, then I edited my sysctl.conf file and added the parameter fs.file-max and set it to 100000. Even after rebooting the system ulimit -n shows 1024 and the program throws the same error |
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| 08:31.20 | lelle | hi, is there any non gnome/kde graphical su interface? |
| 08:31.20 | blup | I tried upgrading mysql-server-5.0 to 5.1 and I ended up with a broken install... now i can't revert to 5.0 or correctly install 5.1.. any tips? |
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| 08:33.43 | Iridos | lelle, gksu? |
| 08:33.53 | lelle | isnt it gnome? |
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| 08:34.36 | lukosanthropos | Hi guys I just inherited a debian server and I'm trying to grant ftp write access to a user, whats the best way to do this (FTP is already setup and Idk what version the previous admin used) |
| 08:35.18 | Iridos | blup, not without you saying what actually broke |
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| 08:36.55 | Iridos | lukosanthropos, that completely depends on why he doesn't have access |
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| 08:37.41 | Iridos | also, there are different ftp servers around |
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| 08:37.51 | lukosanthropos | Yeah I know |
| 08:37.54 | gnarface | so much for EM emissions from all this computer hardware scaring off the roaches |
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| 08:38.00 | lukosanthropos | I need to find the config file really |
| 08:38.45 | Iridos | lukosanthropos, for a start, perhaps that helps: dpkg -l \*ftp\* |grep ^ii |
| 08:39.06 | blup | Iridos: http://pastebin.com/YCVKSBpB |
| 08:39.17 | Iridos | or possibly even dpkg -l \*ftpd\* |grep ^ii |
| 08:39.22 | Guest78320 | lukosanthropos: OR find /etc/init.d/ -name *ftp* |
| 08:40.22 | blup | Iridos: and its the same error when i uninstall this and reinstall 5.0 |
| 08:40.26 | shogun1234 | @karsten. just to report the test i run. it seems that dd if .. command can't remove grub2, but now i use freedos `fdisk /mbr` to remove mbr already. thanks again for your kindly help. |
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| 08:41.14 | mae_tae | hallo people, is there an application that can also control all webmins on different machines |
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| 08:43.34 | petemc | mae_tae: a browser |
| 08:43.47 | Iridos | blup, run edit the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ for mysql and figure out why it doesn't work .... actually your output already says - it fails because it cannot start mysql |
| 08:43.56 | Iridos | blup, so figure out why you can't start mysql |
| 08:44.11 | Iridos | petemc, \o/ |
| 08:44.35 | blup | Iridos: well, it was running fine when i tried installing 5.1 :S now i can't even revert to 5.0 |
| 08:44.50 | blup | Iridos: thanks anyways |
| 08:45.08 | Iridos | blup, you cannot install it, because the script tries to start it and it fails |
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| 08:45.52 | Iridos | so find out why it doesn't start, fix that and your problem disappears |
| 08:45.59 | themill | blup: given our normal experiences with packages from dotdeb, you should ask them why their package is broken not us. |
| 08:46.25 | Iridos | oh dotdeb... didn't see |
| 08:46.58 | Guest78320 | I have a program that keeps throwing "Too man open files" error. I googled and found a couple of solutions. Now I have modified my /etc/security/limits.conf file and added * hard nofile 65536 and * soft nofile 32768, then I edited my sysctl.conf file and added the parameter fs.file-max and set it to 100000. Even after rebooting the system ulimit -n shows 1024 and the program throws the same error |
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| 08:47.45 | blup | themill: not blaming anybody, just trying to fix it |
| 08:48.02 | blup | themill: thansk anyhow |
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| 08:48.41 | Iridos | Guest78320, why don't you use "ulimit -n 65534" as root and in bash for starters, to see if the ulimit changes things? |
| 08:49.00 | themill | blup: are you running lenny? If all you want is mysql 5.1 then it is available from backports.org in packages that work quite nicely. Getting from where you are now to using the bpo package might be hard though... |
| 08:49.54 | Tommy_DO | Is there a way to decrease something like the global debug level for python? I've got some scripts, that show warnings, which I don't want to see. |
| 08:50.18 | blup | themill: ok, so do i have to add them to the repo list? |
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| 08:51.02 | Guest78320 | Iridos: this program runs at boot time, will I need to restart it after running that command? |
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| 08:51.12 | Yahav | hey guys |
| 08:51.50 | Yahav | i'm about to YET AGAIN, move my work laptop from Windows to debian |
| 08:52.03 | Guest78320 | I dont understand why the limit wont update as I have an exact similar setup on another server and the limits are updated when I make changes on the /etc/security/limits.conf file, this is the first time that I had to edit the sysctl.conf too but still no avail :/ |
| 08:52.58 | Iridos | Guest78320, you need to start it from (a child) of the shell you used the "ulimit" internal bash command in... so if it doesn't run as root su <user> -c command would do it |
| 08:53.22 | Iridos | Guest78320, that I don't know either - I changed limits in there and that worked |
| 08:53.43 | Iridos | perhaps something wrong with your syntax... possibly earlier on |
| 08:54.09 | Guest78320 | Iridos: thanks man, I need to figure out why the limits wont work, just installed and fully setup this system too if not I could reformat |
| 08:54.52 | Iridos | hm |
| 08:55.02 | Iridos | did you look at "man limits.conf" |
| 08:55.29 | Yahav | just wanted to know, what are the official current release? |
| 08:56.20 | Iridos | lenny is still the current stable release |
| 08:56.23 | Guest78320 | yes I have, I am confused as I have setup about 50 other servers the exact same way but this single one is being weird |
| 08:56.59 | pht | the squeeze installer is stuck in a loop where it says to me that i chose to continue without installing grub. any ideas? |
| 08:57.07 | Iridos | dunno... debugging pam is not overly fun |
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| 08:58.46 | jelly | it's fun fsvo fun |
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| 08:59.15 | jelly | Yahav: read the topic. |
| 09:00.02 | Iridos | jelly, can you read the topic to us? it's so small |
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| 09:02.45 | jelly | Iridos: no, but arguably I could tell you to install festival to read it to you... |
| 09:03.22 | reb00t | lol @ TTS |
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| 09:13.33 | tbf | is it possible to tell apt-get to consider and accept a single i386 repository even when running amd64 ? |
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| 09:15.02 | sep | tbf, yes, if you do it inside a chroot. otherway no it will break your system |
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| 09:15.41 | sep | besides repositories contains all arch's dont think there are only i386 repos |
| 09:16.04 | tbf | sep: for this very limited 3rd party repo i know it won't break my system |
| 09:16.49 | sep | why do you ask us then |
| 09:17.03 | tbf | sep: because you are the apt-get experts :-) |
| 09:17.04 | ttiicc | Im getting to know debian which I'm been working with the last 6 months. (my first contact with linux) I have found this shutdown now -hP for shutingdown the OS from the terminal. wonder if that command is the right way Imean going true all the shutdown scrips and so on |
| 09:17.37 | sep | tbf, and i tell you that i would do that inside a i386 chroot. |
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| 09:18.51 | sep | ttiicc, will work yes. you can also use the commands "reboot" and "poweroff" |
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| 09:19.07 | tbf | sep: chrooting a chroot is a quite messy setup ;-) |
| 09:19.35 | rdz | hi all. i have a machine that hangs at boot time after a kernel update. using a very old kernel i can reboot machine. however, i'd like to switch back to the new kernel again, but the one version before the update. is there a way to freeze the version of certain deb. package? and also to go to current - 1? |
| 09:19.44 | tbf | sep: also the chroot approach has the disadantage that you a) duplicate the base system b) usually forget to apt-get update it |
| 09:20.09 | tbf | sep: bin there, done that :-) |
| 09:20.10 | Iridos | tbf, not as messy as whatever you have in mind - if you want to use the packages, re-pack them for your current architecture |
| 09:20.21 | sep | tbf, sounds like you know what you want your answer to be, so go do it instead of wasting time arguing ? |
| 09:20.27 | Iridos | tbf, if it makes you happier, the answer is "no" |
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| 09:21.07 | jelly | tbf: fwiw, that functionality is planned as part of the multiarch effort |
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| 09:21.28 | syslq | rdz: boot with old kernel, install new kernel edit grub and boot with whatever version you like |
| 09:22.16 | Iridos | jelly, ha, does that mean it'll be possible to have i386/amd64 side-by-side without chrooting and without specialized ia32-packages? |
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| 09:23.16 | jelly | Iridos: just like RHEL has been able to since like 2004! |
| 09:23.17 | rdz | syslq, but how can i install the last revision of the current kernel version? it's only the most current revision, tha fails |
| 09:23.24 | rdz | it was running fine before |
| 09:23.27 | ttiicc | so 'shutdown now -hP' is the same command if you are shutting down the OS from the GUI? |
| 09:23.34 | Iridos | jelly, who is RHEL? Did I meet the guy? |
| 09:23.42 | jelly | !spank Iridos |
| 09:23.42 | dpkg | bends Iridos over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 09:23.42 | ttiicc | same command which is ran |
| 09:23.51 | rdz | syslq, i think my question boils down to an apt-get / dpkg question |
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| 09:24.20 | syslq | rdz: I use aptitude but ok. You want to have one revision before current right? |
| 09:25.19 | Iridos | rdz, didn't you keep the last kernel? just select it from the boot menu.... |
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| 09:25.50 | rdz | Iridos, since it is the same kernel version (not revision) it did overwrite the old one |
| 09:26.10 | Iridos | mmmh |
| 09:26.12 | rdz | syslq, yeah, i use aptitude as well.. and yes, that is what i would like to do |
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| 09:26.36 | rdz | Iridos, you only get a new grub entry, when installing a new kernel version |
| 09:26.46 | Iridos | rdz, look if the previous one is still in /var/cache/apt/archives first |
| 09:26.56 | rdz | Iridos, i mean, if the uname -r gives a different result than before |
| 09:26.58 | syslq | rdz what is your kernel version and yeah, check archives as he said |
| 09:27.06 | rdz | syslq, ah ok. |
| 09:27.13 | rdz | Iridos, thanks, i'll check |
| 09:27.18 | sep | rdz, if it's not in local apt archives check http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 09:27.19 | Iridos | if not |
| 09:27.23 | Iridos | !snapshot |
| 09:27.23 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 09:27.28 | Iridos | ah... sep's faster |
| 09:28.01 | rdz | syslq, 2.6.26-2-openvz-amd64 |
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| 09:28.18 | rdz | Iridos, sep, oh. cool. i'll check that. many thanks |
| 09:28.43 | rdz | is there a way to freeze a certain pacakge with aptitude, so that updates are not automaticall installed for that package? |
| 09:29.10 | Iridos | !hold |
| 09:29.10 | dpkg | hmm... hold is a status flag that tells the package manager not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package: 'echo <package> hold|dpkg --set-selections'. It is also possible to use aptitude: 'aptitude hold <package>'. Note that the hold flag set using aptitude might be ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager and Synaptic), but aptitude will respect the hold set in the dpkg database. |
| 09:29.12 | syslq | rdz: fantastic :), I found out something usefull too with snapshots |
| 09:29.25 | Iridos | judd, kernels |
| 09:29.28 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.35-trunk-686 (2.6.35-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-21); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-20); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-20~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-24lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 09:29.41 | rdz | Iridos, thanks |
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| 09:30.23 | Iridos | rdz, for kernels, just uninstall the meta-package that always depends on the newest kernel-package |
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| 09:31.18 | Iridos | that should be called something like linux-image-2.6.26-2-openvz or so in your case |
| 09:32.27 | rdz | Iridos, linux-image-2.6.26-2-openvz-amd64 |
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| 09:33.20 | rdz | Iridos, for the record: the machine was running fine until yesterday, and a new revision came out and we 'aptitude full-upgrade'd and rebooted and the machine didn't come up again |
| 09:33.57 | rdz | Iridos, frankly, i wouldn't be surprised if it is somehow related to the kernel being an openvz enabled one |
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| 09:35.16 | Zenox | What is linux-image >>> bpo <<< kernels? Backports? |
| 09:35.35 | Iridos | Zenox, yes |
| 09:36.19 | Zenox | Iridos: Ah okay, thx |
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| 09:37.08 | Iridos | you got it in one :) |
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| 09:37.40 | Zenox | Iridos: :) |
| 09:37.52 | lukosanthropos | Ok I was in here earlier asking about enabling write access to an FTP server and realised how little I knew about itâ¦. I have a server running VSFTP with write_enabled set to yes in the config (and its not commented) My users still can't write to their home directories any ideas>? |
| 09:38.58 | nsadmin | why are you using ftp? it |
| 09:39.18 | nsadmin | is a flawed protocol, one that exposes people's passwords. |
| 09:39.27 | lukosanthropos | nsadmin because I have to (the users are actually IP cams that only support ftp not sftp |
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| 09:39.50 | nsadmin | so the users are not people? |
| 09:39.57 | Zenox | Iridos: Installing the backported one and rebooting, gotta try some things :) |
| 09:40.04 | lukosanthropos | no (except when I'm testing the connections) |
| 09:40.29 | nsadmin | hmm, ok... are the ipcams inside a nat? |
| 09:40.56 | Iridos | go out! educate the webcams of the world! |
| 09:41.43 | rdz | i don't a result from snapshot.debian.org when searching for linux-image-2.6.26-2-openvz-amd64. what am i overseeing? |
| 09:41.59 | rdz | should read: i don't get a result [...] |
| 09:42.01 | lukosanthropos | I'm not actually sure (I didn't set this network up I started here this morning after the last guy walked I haven't had chance to do investigations) |
| 09:42.16 | lukosanthropos | and should that matter for them not being able to write to my ftp server |
| 09:42.20 | lukosanthropos | they can connect |
| 09:42.21 | Iridos | lukosanthropos, local_enable=YES |
| 09:42.47 | lukosanthropos | yep I have local_enable= yes set |
| 09:42.49 | nsadmin | if they are, and the server is in the same NAT, that should be ok... if not, you could restrict what IP is able to connect |
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| 09:43.49 | lukosanthropos | nsadmin I'd rather get them able to write before I start restricting who can connect |
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| 09:44.15 | nsadmin | about write permission, you need to understand how unix-style file permissions work... do you? |
| 09:44.25 | lukosanthropos | yes |
| 09:44.36 | nsadmin | each cam a separate user? |
| 09:44.39 | Iridos | no... vsftp should become the local user |
| 09:44.58 | lukosanthropos | And while we were talking I remembered to restart the ftp with my modified settings and now it works and I feel like a retard :D |
| 09:45.02 | Iridos | if you're not using anonymouse access |
| 09:45.10 | Iridos | tee hee |
| 09:45.14 | Iridos | !slap lukosanthropos |
| 09:45.14 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across lukosanthropos's face |
| 09:45.26 | KayAteChef | smirks |
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| 09:45.29 | lukosanthropos | What Its been a LONG morning |
| 09:45.44 | Iridos | yeah... just helping you to get awake again |
| 09:45.50 | lukosanthropos | Thanks |
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| 09:46.07 | nsadmin | usually the morning is long... then it's lunch time! |
| 09:46.15 | Iridos | and it is! |
| 09:46.28 | Iridos | another morning successfully wasted with irc |
| 09:46.32 | Iridos | \o/ |
| 09:46.35 | lukosanthropos | it's not lunchtime for me its 10:45 |
| 09:46.47 | lukosanthropos | the morning still has a ways to go unfortunatly |
| 09:46.48 | sdschulze | I'm one of those proud owners of a computer that resets its clock upon reboot. For preventing complete breakage, I would like to save the clock upon shutdown and reloads that value when restarting. Is there a ready-made solution for this, maybe? |
| 09:46.51 | Iridos | fix your timezone |
| 09:46.57 | nsadmin | so the long morning isn't long enough yet |
| 09:47.30 | nsadmin | sdschulze is it always connected to the net? |
| 09:47.35 | Iridos | a short long morning |
| 09:48.06 | Iridos | sdschulze, ntpd would be a way... dunno about local saves |
| 09:48.23 | sdschulze | nsadmin: Yes, and ntp works. But it still generates syslog entries for 1970 because syslogd is faster than ntpd. |
| 09:49.25 | sdschulze | I just want to prevent that the system virtually reboots at an earlier time than shutdown time. |
| 09:50.04 | Iridos | actually... if the clock resets, aren't you also losing the whole cmos, breaking all kinds of things during boot? |
| 09:50.05 | Shadur | Hokay, we've just switched out our nameservers to a new IP address and range. Can someone do me a quick favor and check what IP address 'ns.systemec.nl' resolves to? |
| 09:50.07 | Iridos | buy a new battery! |
| 09:50.31 | sdschulze | Iridos: It's a plug computer and doesn't have a CMOS. :) |
| 09:50.44 | iceroot | Shadur: 89.20.90.102 |
| 09:50.45 | KayAteChef | 89.20.90.102 |
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| 09:51.53 | sdschulze | Iridos: Actually, I find the behavior of ntpdate -s annoying. It does *not* block the system. |
| 09:52.38 | Iridos | you can always use date --set |
| 09:53.07 | sdschulze | The point is that it shouldn't go on booting if the date is b0rked. |
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| 09:55.38 | Iridos | I would want it to boot if the date is wrong |
| 09:55.45 | Iridos | no way to fix it if it hangs indefinitely |
| 09:55.53 | sdschulze | but only after a sensible timeout |
| 09:55.53 | StucKman | I have a disk image with debian stable installed. if I boot it in qemu or vmware, the disk is virtualized as a pata one, so it's named hda. under vbox it's virtualized as a sata one, so it's sda. the problem occurs when the kernel param root=/dev/sda1 fails in qemu and vmware. I remember that there are pata drivers in the kernel that uses a scsi interface, so the devices are named sd* too, which is what I want. now the question is: how do I tell the init |
| 09:56.11 | sdschulze | Maybe I should just call ntpdate without the -s. |
| 09:57.53 | Shadur | Thanks, that's exactly right. |
| 09:58.01 | sdschulze | doesn't make sense anyway, because syslogd isn't running at that time |
| 09:58.45 | sdschulze | StucKman: For me, newer Linux versions don't use the hd? scheme at all. |
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| 09:59.14 | StucKman | sdschulze: debian stable seens to still ues it. |
| 09:59.26 | StucKman | seems* |
| 09:59.49 | sdschulze | I'd alter the qemu settings, if possible. |
| 10:00.23 | StucKman | sdschulze: but I can'þ alter the vmware ones |
| 10:00.38 | StucKman | (it simply doesn't have stat disks, at least not vmware player) |
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| 10:01.56 | StucKman | sata* |
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| 10:02.35 | Iridos | sdschulze, you probably want -n -g -x -q - no idea wh you specified -s and what for, -s is "statsdir" |
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| 10:07.41 | sdschulze | Iridos: I'm talking about ntpdate, not ntpd. |
| 10:08.34 | ^Willie^ | someone highlighted me ? |
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| 10:09.07 | themill | ^Willie^: a spammer did 10 hours ago. That's quite some lag you've got. |
| 10:09.44 | ^Willie^ | themill: hmm ok since some weird bug in kvirc it fails to save the logs every 10 minutes so mosthly i have 12 of the 24 hours ;) |
| 10:10.19 | ^Willie^ | but thnx ;) |
| 10:10.33 | StucKman | ^Willie^: konversation, maybe? |
| 10:10.48 | ^Willie^ | StucKman: nah someting more universal ;) |
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| 10:11.08 | ^Willie^ | for the laptop i dont wana have kdelibs on my gnome setup |
| 10:11.13 | StucKman | ah, I thought kvirc was kde related, sorry for the confusion |
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| 10:11.22 | ^Willie^ | this home box is kde 4.x indeed |
| 10:11.29 | StucKman | irssi? |
| 10:11.30 | StucKman | runs |
| 10:11.47 | ^Willie^ | hmm still need to figure that out :p |
| 10:11.53 | ^Willie^ | for a single irc channel it is ok |
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| 10:12.15 | alcohol | irssi is perfect |
| 10:12.25 | alcohol | uses it for multiple servers and channels |
| 10:12.40 | StucKman | I use it for 4 permanently, and then some more when I need help, like now |
| 10:12.48 | ^Willie^ | alcohol: i just did look at irssi once a few years ago |
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| 10:13.03 | AlexC_ | morning |
| 10:13.07 | AlexC_ | where to sockets normally live? /var/run ? |
| 10:13.15 | StucKman | ^Willie^: ah, it is still configured by editing a config file, tho |
| 10:13.39 | StucKman | AlexC_: you mean named sockets? whereevr the program puts them |
| 10:14.02 | AlexC_ | StucKman: sure, and the convention/standard is? |
| 10:14.13 | AlexC_ | obviously they are not going to put them in /etc |
| 10:14.16 | alcohol | /var/run I suppose |
| 10:14.17 | StucKman | right now I have one in /tmp |
| 10:14.28 | ^Willie^ | anyway bbl going for a walk with my dog.. |
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| 10:14.42 | StucKman | and 2 in /var/run/ |
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| 10:15.07 | AlexC_ | ok, /var/run - thanks |
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| 10:16.18 | chnaon | Hi, Have a really strange problem, a debian 5.0 system, where system time get screwed up after 1 day or more uptime, seconds "hangs", ex 23,24,25 and then jumps back to 23.. hwclock seems to work fine though, any ideas? |
| 10:17.13 | ^Willie^ | chnaon: posible an running ntp client ? |
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| 10:17.33 | StucKman | ^Willie^: the dog! |
| 10:17.33 | ^Willie^ | chnaon: else look in the syslog messages if something is changing the system time |
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| 10:17.53 | ^Willie^ | StucKman: the leash in on already so i go now ;) |
| 10:18.12 | ^Willie^ | in=is |
| 10:18.13 | StucKman | :-P |
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| 10:19.10 | chnaon | <^Willie^>: no ntp-client, a minimal debian setup on a embedded card. have 9 systems with identical hardware and same debian install. two of the systems hav this strange problem with system time but only after 1-2 days of uptime |
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| 10:20.33 | chnaon | nothing in syslog gives me a clue... and if I power off and then power on, system is fine for another 1-2 days before problem occurs |
| 10:20.49 | minh | I need help on changing my default-runlevel from 5 to 3... |
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| 10:21.07 | StucKman | minh: edit /etc/inittab |
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| 10:21.23 | minh | StucKman: thanks, man! I'll check it out |
| 10:21.29 | StucKman | or add another param to the kernel in the bootloader |
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| 10:22.52 | minh | StucKman: oehm..in inittab it says: 'id:2:initdefault:' |
| 10:22.55 | minh | ? |
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| 10:24.29 | StucKman | minh: hmm, when you mean, from 5 to 3, you actually mean that you don't want gdm or kdm or some other dm starting at boot time? |
| 10:24.40 | StucKman | when you say* |
| 10:25.16 | StucKman | looks for his english module under the pillow he still has stick to his face |
| 10:26.15 | minh | StucKman: yeah, exactly |
| 10:26.45 | StucKman | minh: then jsut deinstallit or remove the simlink from /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 10:26.59 | StucKman | or use.... update-rc.d |
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| 10:28.09 | minh | StucKman: well...I do want to use it...just not all the time...i.e. having no X (or gdm) when the machine boots up...but being able to start it anytime... |
| 10:28.46 | cantido | minh: startx |
| 10:28.56 | StucKman | minh: then read man update-rc.d, and use it to remvoe it from the runlevel 2 |
| 10:29.07 | cantido | minh: you'd need to login to start the dm any how.. |
| 10:29.52 | StucKman | cantido: he's still trying to disable *dm at boottime |
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| 10:30.18 | cantido | StucKman: yeah.. but if he just wants to use X every so often he doesn't need a dm |
| 10:30.56 | StucKman | true, startx is your friend |
| 10:31.09 | minh | 'update-rc.d -f gdm remove' is a solution |
| 10:31.36 | minh | but is there a way to specify that in a config-file? |
| 10:31.37 | StucKman | nice |
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| 10:31.48 | cantido | he would need to login to start the dm if it doesn't start automatically.. so he might as well login and type startx instead of login, switch to root, start dm, and then login again |
| 10:31.52 | themill | minh: that's quite a temporary solution. |
| 10:32.01 | StucKman | minh: I'm not sure, maybe something in /etc/default/ |
| 10:32.23 | minh | themill: I know...that's because I'm searching for a way to do it in a config-file |
| 10:32.47 | cantido | minh: check the init script for the dm to see if it checks something before starting |
| 10:33.05 | cantido | minh: but I don't think you will find one.. if you don't need it, don't install it |
| 10:34.01 | minh | cantido: dump question...but where do I find the init script for the dm? (sorry, newbie!!!) |
| 10:34.04 | Iridos | _how_ do you think ou're going to use gdm if it's not started automatically? |
| 10:34.12 | themill | minh: echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager should do it. |
| 10:34.14 | cantido | minh: /etc/init.d/<name of dm> |
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| 10:34.53 | minh | Iridos: /etc/init.d/gdm start ? |
| 10:35.07 | cantido | minh: actually, try what the themill said |
| 10:35.10 | Iridos | what do you get out of that? |
| 10:35.27 | minh | Iridos: starting gdm along with X? |
| 10:35.31 | cantido | you can have multiple dm's.. and apparently that var controls which one actually starts |
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| 10:36.00 | Iridos | yes, but you have to login as root first to do that, then log in again as a user and... then you shut it down again as root? |
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| 10:36.22 | Iridos | what do you _get_ out of this, except extra-effort? |
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| 10:36.40 | cantido | has said the same thing at least twice |
| 10:37.06 | Iridos | cantido, has he ever answered the question? |
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| 10:37.19 | l0st-soul | erm hello there |
| 10:37.20 | minh | themill, cantido: alright...i'll try with echo 'false' > /etc/X11/default-display-manager (btw: it's /usr/bin/gdm in there) |
| 10:37.33 | l0st-soul | could anyone help me out with a lilo/grub/lvm problem ? |
| 10:37.42 | cantido | minh: if you machine has a monitor/keyboard and you're going to use that to interact with the machine.. even if it's text only.. an X11 terminal emulator will probably be faster than the framebuffer |
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| 10:37.50 | bulletz | hello |
| 10:38.01 | cantido | l0st-soul: just ask your question |
| 10:38.07 | l0st-soul | ok |
| 10:38.22 | l0st-soul | i have a system that was working, booting with lilo on a hardware raid (adaptec) of 2TB |
| 10:38.40 | l0st-soul | then i added disks and created a 2nd array (5.5tb) |
| 10:38.41 | minh | cantido: I'll hit you guys back in a minute |
| 10:38.48 | l0st-soul | everything was working ok until i reboot today |
| 10:39.02 | l0st-soul | now lilo is telling me "Error: Duplicated Volume ID" |
| 10:39.09 | l0st-soul | i'm using lvm on both arrays |
| 10:39.13 | cantido | Iridos: nope,.. he'll soon get pissed of with not having the dm starting at boot ;) |
| 10:39.34 | cantido | l0st-soul: is there any reason that you're using lilo? |
| 10:39.34 | l0st-soul | i tried to boot using debian rescue and other live cds, to try and change the volume id |
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| 10:39.41 | l0st-soul | but i cannot get it to work... |
| 10:39.57 | l0st-soul | cantido: i think it was because grub does not support 2TB+ to boot from |
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| 10:40.16 | cantido | l0st-soul: you don't have a small /boot fs? |
| 10:40.19 | Iridos | cantido, perhaps it's a do-things-the-most-exhausting-way contest :) |
| 10:40.35 | l0st-soul | cantido: /dev/sda1 is the small boot partition |
| 10:40.36 | minh | cantido: WORKS! niiiiccccccceeee |
| 10:40.59 | cantido | wonders what the kdm etc init scripts actually do... |
| 10:41.33 | l0st-soul | anyway i seem to be unable to install neither grub nor lilo there .. |
| 10:42.26 | l0st-soul | and i dont know what to try next |
| 10:42.34 | Iridos | cantido, do the ole 'oh, not me, exit without doing anything'-routine |
| 10:42.53 | cantido | l0st-soul: /dev/sda1 is a small raid1 on the controller? |
| 10:43.03 | l0st-soul | /dev/sda = array1 |
| 10:43.08 | l0st-soul | /dev/sdb = array2 |
| 10:43.16 | themill | cantido: [ "$(cat $DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE)" != "$DAEMON" ] ... |
| 10:43.24 | l0st-soul | /dev/sda1 = small /boot |
| 10:43.27 | l0st-soul | rest is lvm |
| 10:43.46 | cantido | themill: I see.. so all the dm init scripts actually run then |
| 10:44.24 | cantido | l0st-soul: which array is lilo installed? |
| 10:44.33 | l0st-soul | i followed some tutorials on how to repair lilo, but when i type "lilo -T vol-ID" to check actual volume ids, i get "The information you requested is not available" |
| 10:44.39 | themill | cantido: yeah |
| 10:44.45 | l0st-soul | 1st array, in /dev/sda |
| 10:45.07 | cantido | l0st-soul: and the kernels etc are inside the lvm?# |
| 10:45.29 | l0st-soul | i guess in the /boot ? |
| 10:45.38 | l0st-soul | it was quite a default debian install |
| 10:45.52 | l0st-soul | at install time there was only 1 array /dev/sda |
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| 10:48.15 | cantido | l0st-soul: yeah, sounds right.. the lilo docs do discuss the duplicate id thing. it suggests lilo -z -M /dev/hdb |
| 10:48.29 | minh | another non-X related question: In X i have CTRL mapped to capsLock...is there a way to achieve this in non-X? |
| 10:48.46 | cantido | l0st-soul: /dev/hdb being the device you don't want to boot from |
| 10:48.59 | l0st-soul | cantido: i tried that, lilo -z -M /dev/sdb |
| 10:49.04 | l0st-soul | doesnt give an error message |
| 10:49.13 | l0st-soul | but does not remove the error message at boot |
| 10:49.15 | cantido | l0st-soul: but it still doesnt boot? |
| 10:49.44 | l0st-soul | they suggest to do lilo -T vol-ID to check the id's first, but that errors out "The information you requested is not available" |
| 10:49.57 | l0st-soul | i can mount my lvm partitions without problems on both arrays |
| 10:50.03 | cantido | l0st-soul: the volume id comes from the mbr apparently.. maybe the raid controller is doing something funky with that? |
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| 10:50.52 | l0st-soul | i could go check in adaptec card's bios if i see anything about mbr but i doubt so |
| 10:51.33 | l0st-soul | so after struggling with lilo, using different boot cds, i gave up and tried to install grub instead |
| 10:51.45 | cantido | l0st-soul: did it make any difference? |
| 10:51.50 | l0st-soul | but when configuring grub it fails |
| 10:52.05 | l0st-soul | at the grub> prompt i have to enter : find /boot/grub/stage1 |
| 10:52.12 | l0st-soul | it says file is not found.. |
| 10:52.17 | l0st-soul | tho it is well present in /boot |
| 10:52.40 | l0st-soul | when i type root(hd0,0) it errors: "System type unknown, partition type 0xee" |
| 10:52.54 | l0st-soul | that lead me to a post saying it doesnt support large drives |
| 10:52.56 | l0st-soul | 2TB+ |
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| 10:53.32 | l0st-soul | after installing the new hds in the computer and creating the array2 from adaptec bios, it booted without any problem |
| 10:53.56 | l0st-soul | i only created lvm pv & vg & ... on it, everything was still fine, until reboot .. |
| 10:54.04 | cantido | l0st-soul: you should be installing grub into boot though |
| 10:54.34 | cantido | suppress-boot-time-BIOS-data in your lilo config might help |
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| 10:55.13 | Yahav | is there any upsides to debian over Ubuntu ? (yeah i know its based on debian, just wondering what i should install) |
| 10:55.15 | l0st-soul | installing grub into boot ? isnt that what i'm trying with root(hd0,0) ? |
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| 10:55.59 | l0st-soul | the lilo.conf i dont have it anymore, i removed the package and files when i was confident that grub would save me |
| 10:56.01 | cantido | l0st-soul: have you tried using grub-install? |
| 10:56.16 | binichpwaufkaput | hi, i am looking for something like http://www.howtoforge.com/debian_windows_installer but the site only offers gnewsense now. i want to install debian from windows without having cdrom or usb |
| 10:56.17 | cantido | hasn't installed grub *manually* in ages |
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| 10:56.41 | l0st-soul | cantido: yes i tried that first, it said "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" |
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| 10:57.16 | cantido | l0st-soul: are you installing from the rescue environment? |
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| 10:57.38 | l0st-soul | i tried everything from the initramfs i'm getting thrown in after lilo fails to boot |
| 10:57.47 | l0st-soul | then i tried everything from gparted boot cd |
| 10:57.53 | l0st-soul | then i tried everything from debian rescue |
| 10:58.01 | cantido | l0st-soul: did you mount /boot |
| 10:58.08 | l0st-soul | yes |
| 10:58.21 | l0st-soul | chrooted in my chroot, mounted /boot succesfully |
| 10:58.32 | l0st-soul | this is driving me nuts |
| 10:59.02 | pallgone | l0st-soul: don't worry, be happy |
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| 10:59.39 | l0st-soul | i want to be happy! |
| 10:59.45 | sint | hey, i want to create a partition on a 2tb disk with gparted. is it common that last sectors appear to be larger then total sectors? |
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| 11:02.06 | cantido | l0st-soul: I'm just refreshing myself on how you install grub manually, give me a mo |
| 11:02.12 | l0st-soul | thanks |
| 11:02.23 | cantido | l0st-soul: in the meantime.. can you boot from the rootfs on the array some how? |
| 11:03.02 | l0st-soul | without booting from a cd and chrooting you mean ? |
| 11:03.30 | l0st-soul | like if i try at cd boot prompt to enter smth like linux root=/dev/mapper/darnassus-root ? |
| 11:03.58 | l0st-soul | i'm not sure how i can manage to do that |
| 11:05.07 | abrotman | dpkg!!!!!!!!! |
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| 11:05.56 | binichpwaufkaput | ah, the old files are still there http://www.goodbye-windows.com/downloads/debian/ :) |
| 11:06.07 | cantido | l0st-soul: are the grub files present in /boot? |
| 11:06.09 | gnarface | abrotman: hey remember that strange mysterious boot issue i had, where debian would pause randomly during the boot-up until i hit a key? i flashed my bios and it went away |
| 11:06.22 | l0st-soul | files like stage1, yes |
| 11:06.23 | abrotman | gnarface: uhm .. so it was a BIOS setting? |
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| 11:06.30 | l0st-soul | but /boot/grub/default is empty |
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| 11:06.43 | l0st-soul | (grub installation was not used) |
| 11:06.52 | l0st-soul | lilo was the bootloader |
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| 11:07.03 | gnarface | abrotman: or a bios bug. hard to say. the new default of ram being in "unganged" vs "ganged" mode looked suspicious, but that's just speculation. |
| 11:07.16 | abrotman | gnarface: be interesting to see if you could make it happen again if you started changing settings (you could always go back to the defaults) |
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| 11:08.26 | gnarface | abrotman: yes, agreed. |
| 11:08.47 | cantido | l0st-soul: get the machine booted up with an install disk and get into the rescue system |
| 11:08.58 | l0st-soul | i'm there |
| 11:09.19 | cantido | l0st-soul: ok, mount proc etc into the target root fs |
| 11:09.25 | cantido | l0st-soul: and boot |
| 11:09.33 | cantido | then chroot into it |
| 11:10.00 | l0st-soul | brb from the machine |
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| 11:13.01 | l0st-soul | cantido: ok i'm chrooted with dev&proc&boot mounted |
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| 11:13.28 | cantido | l0st-soul: try grub-install /dev/sda and see if that works |
| 11:14.17 | cantido | hopes /boot isn't inside lvm |
| 11:14.33 | l0st-soul | grub-probe: error: cannot find device for ./ |
| 11:14.43 | l0st-soul | searching for the grub configuration directory : found /boot/grub |
| 11:14.58 | l0st-soul | (installation directory, not configurtion) |
| 11:15.15 | l0st-soul | the file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly |
| 11:15.34 | cantido | l0st-soul: /boot isn't a lv is it? |
| 11:16.26 | l0st-soul | cantido: no it is not part of the lvm |
| 11:16.35 | l0st-soul | it is /dev/sda1 = boot |
| 11:16.55 | cantido | l0st-soul: ok, looks like you should bind /dev from the rescue into the chroot too |
| 11:17.06 | l0st-soul | and LVM pv is at /dev/sda2 |
| 11:17.12 | cantido | l0st-soul: that should help grub-probe to find the real device |
| 11:17.35 | l0st-soul | well i did mount -o dev before chrooting |
| 11:17.37 | cantido | l0st-soul: ah, you've already done that |
| 11:17.48 | cantido | l0st-soul: you should bind it |
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| 11:21.12 | l0st-soul | cantido: i exited my chroot and chose to start a shell on installation media |
| 11:21.20 | l0st-soul | did mount -o bind /dev /target/dev |
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| 11:21.25 | l0st-soul | chrooted in it |
| 11:21.38 | l0st-soul | now when i grub-install it doesnt give the 1st error about /. |
| 11:21.51 | l0st-soul | but still complains /boot/grub/stage1 cannot be read |
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| 11:24.24 | cantido | l0st-soul: try --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda |
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| 11:24.35 | cantido | grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda |
| 11:25.13 | l0st-soul | same error about stage1 not read correctly |
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| 11:26.46 | cantido | l0st-soul: if you run grub.. does root(hd0,0) work now? |
| 11:27.44 | l0st-soul | System type unknown, partition type 0xee |
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| 11:28.19 | l0st-soul | i heard about rootnoverify (hd0,0) but didnt work neither last time i tried, maybe i can retry that now |
| 11:28.59 | sphenxes | i am using rsync for backup. i would like to exclude /var/lib/ except /var/lib/mysql /var/lib/dpkg. i have written a file with: + /var/lib/mysql + /var/lib/dpkg - /var/lib. however it exclude all /var/lib. any suggestion please |
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| 11:29.37 | cantido | l0st-soul: 0xee is apparently some GPT thing .. try typing root(0, and hitting tab |
| 11:29.45 | l0st-soul | sphenxes: maybe try in another order? first -/var/lib then +/var/lib/others ? |
| 11:29.47 | cantido | l0st-soul: you should get a list of partions and types |
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| 11:30.28 | l0st-soul | cantido: root(0,<tab><tab> gives nothing |
| 11:30.37 | l0st-soul | root(hd0<tab><tab> autocompletes to hd0,0 |
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| 11:31.03 | sphenxes | lost_soul, thanks |
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| 11:33.18 | cantido | l0st-soul: weird, what about hd1? |
| 11:33.29 | cantido | maybe they're the wrong way around |
| 11:34.23 | l0st-soul | there seems to be more on that one, but my term is f*cked it doesnt scroll right in grub |
| 11:34.31 | l0st-soul | i'll try with other TERM values |
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| 11:35.24 | lelle | does stable or testing have more packages? |
| 11:35.33 | cantido | l0st-soul: maybe hd0 is the other array, hence the unknown partition type ;) |
| 11:35.53 | l0st-soul | seems possible |
| 11:36.06 | l0st-soul | have you any idea what TERM i should use ? |
| 11:36.08 | rudi_s_ | lelle: If you don't know Debian well, you should use stable. Testing might have more packages available, but it can cause more problems. |
| 11:36.12 | rudi_s_ | !tell lelle about stable |
| 11:36.15 | rudi_s_ | !tell lelle about testing |
| 11:36.34 | cantido | l0st-soul: linux |
| 11:36.56 | cantido | l0st-soul: thats what the vt's $TERM is here |
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| 11:38.44 | l0st-soul | it still looks bad ... but doesnt look like i can get any list of partitiosn on hd1 |
| 11:39.10 | pallgone | l0st-soul: is the lvm module loaded? |
| 11:39.20 | l0st-soul | erm |
| 11:39.30 | l0st-soul | i have the lvm mounted so i guess yes ? |
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| 11:39.52 | pallgone | l0st-soul: aren't you on grub prompt? |
| 11:39.58 | l0st-soul | i am |
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| 11:40.05 | l0st-soul | is there a module to load at grub prompt |
| 11:40.09 | pallgone | l0st-soul: yeah |
| 11:40.22 | pallgone | AFAIK at least |
| 11:40.27 | cantido | does grub 1.x have modules like that? |
| 11:40.41 | l0st-soul | but i wonder why grub would need that module, as /boot = /dev/sda1 (outside lvm) |
| 11:40.43 | pallgone | it's grub1? |
| 11:40.53 | cantido | l0st-soul: is this a lenny machine? |
| 11:41.08 | l0st-soul | grub 0.97 |
| 11:41.30 | l0st-soul | it is lenny |
| 11:41.57 | cantido | yeah, grub2 is 1.89 or something like that.. |
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| 11:42.16 | jelly | grub2 is buggy as hell though |
| 11:42.31 | jelly | not even tab works properly there |
| 11:42.52 | l0st-soul | should i install a newer grub? |
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| 11:43.04 | cantido | jelly: it's the default in squeeze though |
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| 11:43.19 | cantido | l0st-soul: grub-pc should be available in lenny |
| 11:43.23 | jelly | cantido: I know. |
| 11:43.40 | cantido | mmm maybe not.. |
| 11:43.43 | jelly | l0st-soul: no need to, you probably just need to fix the initrd/initramfs image |
| 11:43.59 | cantido | jelly: grub won't even install ;) |
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| 11:44.21 | jelly | huh |
| 11:44.51 | jelly | l0st-soul: which partition table format are you using for the first array? |
| 11:45.08 | l0st-soul | cantido: i dont see any other grub in apt-cache search |
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| 11:45.37 | cantido | l0st-soul: yeah, I thought I still had a lenny box here, turns out it isn't lenny |
| 11:45.40 | l0st-soul | cantido: oh i was wrogn, it is there |
| 11:45.49 | l0st-soul | should i install grub-pc ? |
| 11:45.54 | cantido | you can try it |
| 11:46.22 | l0st-soul | jelly: wich partition table? i got a /dev/sda1 = /boot, and /dev/sda2 is a lvm PV |
| 11:46.29 | cantido | the grub-install / grub-setup script might actually work ;) |
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| 11:46.46 | l0st-soul | what is grub-pc .. just grub2 ? |
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| 11:47.12 | emr | i have debian lenny and python 2.5.2 i installed python-json from apt but json don't have dumps method, how i can easily solve that problem |
| 11:47.13 | jelly | l0st-soul: there are different ways to create partitions. How did you create yours, fdisk/cfdisk/sfdisk, or something else? |
| 11:47.56 | cantido | l0st-soul: grub-pc should be grub2 yes |
| 11:48.11 | jelly | l0st-soul: can you pastebin the output of "sfdisk -d /dev/sda" or "fdisk -l"? |
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| 11:48.49 | cantido | jelly: he's mounted /dev/sda1 to /boot .. so the partitions side of things seems fine |
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| 11:49.10 | jelly | cantido: I want to know if it's normal MSDOS MBR or something else. |
| 11:49.33 | jelly | er, not MBR pre se but partition table format on it |
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| 11:51.04 | cantido | jelly: could be GPT but he did have lilo installed.. so I guess it's MBR or MBR+GPT hybrid |
| 11:51.15 | jelly | cantido: if it's the typical partition table format, grub legacy shouldn't have issues accessing a small primary partition at the beginning. I don't know how the BIOS in question presents disks >2TB |
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| 11:51.58 | jelly | cantido: lilo is dumber, which works in its favor at times |
| 11:52.17 | jelly | this also goes for grub-legacy compared to grub2 |
| 11:52.24 | cantido | jelly: yeah, the /boot partition isn't that big and is outside of the lvm.. so it should work. getting grub to install seems to be the problem ;) |
| 11:53.03 | cantido | lilo breaks a lot easier than grub though |
| 11:53.28 | cantido | hardcoding shit into the MBR is fine if you don't ever move anything ;) |
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| 11:54.26 | l0st-soul | jelly: sfdisk -d /dev/sda : http://pastebin.com/fQ1C1Ntp |
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| 11:54.59 | cantido | oh, it is GPT! |
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| 11:55.06 | l0st-soul | jelly: fdisk -l : http://pastebin.com/QqEyqzze |
| 11:55.10 | jelly | l0st-soul: Ah! So it's GPT, not DOS partition table. |
| 11:55.17 | jelly | therein lies your problem |
| 11:55.21 | cantido | that's probably what's pissing lilo off |
| 11:55.32 | l0st-soul | jelly: partitions on sda were created during debian install |
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| 11:55.40 | jelly | l0st-soul: as much as I hate saying this, try grub-pc |
| 11:56.13 | jelly | l0st-soul: debian installer doesn't necessarily create a bootable system |
| 11:56.42 | jelly | l0st-soul: if it's an option, create an array or a slice of it that's less than 2TB in size and put DOS MBR on it |
| 11:56.46 | l0st-soul | jelly: the system worked fine before i made a 2nd array (sdb) |
| 11:56.51 | l0st-soul | but i'm going to try grub-pc now |
| 11:57.08 | l0st-soul | and i dont know what that GPT is, i never chose that myself |
| 11:57.11 | cantido | why does /dev/sda only have one partition though.. and why is that partition an EFI partition? |
| 11:58.10 | l0st-soul | pvdisplay = http://pastebin.com/zkPe9Ahj |
| 11:58.18 | l0st-soul | we see the pv is on /dev/sda2 tho |
| 11:58.27 | l0st-soul | anyway i'm trying grub-pc now |
| 11:59.15 | l0st-soul | debian:~# grub-install /dev/sda |
| 11:59.15 | jelly | cantido: that's normal, GPT has a fake DOS partition table in place to make you confused |
| 11:59.15 | l0st-soul | Installation finished. No error reported. |
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| 12:00.06 | l0st-soul | but my /boot/grub/default is still empty (and no menu.lst) |
| 12:00.10 | l0st-soul | do i have to craft these by hand ? |
| 12:00.20 | jelly | l0st-soul: update-grub |
| 12:00.23 | cantido | l0st-soul: update-grub will sort that |
| 12:00.31 | l0st-soul | update-grub or update-grub2? |
| 12:00.45 | jelly | l0st-soul: update-grub, and grub-pc uses /boot/grub/grub.cfg instread |
| 12:00.45 | cantido | l0st-soul: update-grub2 for grub-pc |
| 12:01.17 | cantido | removing grub-legacy to save confusion is probably a good idea |
| 12:01.19 | l0st-soul | ok update-grub2 made config files and found kernels |
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| 12:01.29 | l0st-soul | shall i try and reboot ? |
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| 12:01.50 | cantido | l0st-soul: did you do grub-install? |
| 12:02.03 | l0st-soul | yep it said |
| 12:02.04 | l0st-soul | debian:~# grub-install /dev/sda |
| 12:02.04 | l0st-soul | 13:59 < l0st-soul> Installation finished. No error reported. |
| 12:02.18 | l0st-soul | then i ran update-grub2 |
| 12:02.32 | cantido | well, it might work |
| 12:02.39 | l0st-soul | i'll give it a try |
| 12:02.44 | cantido | makes no promises ;) |
| 12:02.44 | l0st-soul | cross them fingers ! |
| 12:02.54 | l0st-soul | brb |
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| 12:03.03 | iluminator101 | How do i create a laucher to access my private? Because currently I have to do cd $Home and ecryptfs-mount-private after i log in |
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| 12:03.41 | cantido | when will pc's get decent firmware ;/ |
| 12:04.05 | Empis | hello, http://pastebin.se/201960 any tip of whats wrong with my apt-get? ist almost a fresh install |
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| 12:04.29 | ksk | ... |
| 12:04.34 | abrotman | Empis: LANG=C apt-get install cacti .. paste it again |
| 12:04.47 | abrotman | what is that? norwegian ? |
| 12:04.57 | Empis | swedish :) |
| 12:04.58 | Empis | yes, 1sek |
| 12:05.10 | ksk | i guess an english output would gain more response :P |
| 12:05.11 | abrotman | Empis: make sure you do an 'apt-get update' first |
| 12:05.38 | abrotman | Empis: also what does 'uname -r' say ? |
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| 12:05.55 | Empis | yeah, but im new to debian and choosed a swedish interface |
| 12:06.14 | abrotman | that's fine .. not everyone is proficient in english |
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| 12:06.26 | abrotman | should have just had beardy translate :) |
| 12:07.06 | Empis | http://pastebin.se/201961 |
| 12:07.51 | Empis | i got the same version as a vmware machine, and that one is working fine |
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| 12:08.43 | Empis | apt-get update make no sense |
| 12:09.00 | abrotman | Empis: what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 12:09.14 | ksk | its in pastebin |
| 12:09.18 | abrotman | oh missed that :) |
| 12:09.24 | ksk | 2.6.26-2amd64 |
| 12:09.27 | abrotman | Empis: did you 'apt-get update' before you ran that? |
| 12:09.58 | jelly | abrotman: LC_ALL overrides everything else, you probably want to use that in case a user customizes eg. LC_MESSAGES instead of just LANG |
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| 12:10.07 | l0st-soul | cantido: jelly: it worked like a charm ! |
| 12:10.11 | l0st-soul | thanks for everything |
| 12:10.12 | abrotman | i know, old habit |
| 12:10.18 | jelly | l0st-soul: will the wonders ever cease! |
| 12:10.40 | l0st-soul | is happy |
| 12:10.40 | cantido | is going to make a note to check for GPT first for next time ;) |
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| 12:10.54 | Empis | abrotman: yup, before i trying to get an install |
| 12:11.01 | abrotman | Empis: try with aptitude |
| 12:11.25 | abrotman | judd: versions dbconfig-common |
| 12:11.26 | judd | dbconfig-common -- etch: 1.8.29+etch1; lenny: 1.8.39; sid: 1.8.46; squeeze: 1.8.46 |
| 12:11.38 | abrotman | see .. there's no 1.8.8 in Debian .. at all |
| 12:11.46 | abrotman | judd: versions libphp-adodb |
| 12:11.47 | judd | libphp-adodb -- etch: 4.93a-1.1; lenny: 5.05-1; sid: 5.10-1; squeeze: 5.10-1 |
| 12:11.52 | abrotman | nor a 4.50 |
| 12:12.00 | abrotman | Empis: how old is this server? |
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| 12:12.45 | jelly | cantido: DOS partition table can't use full size of device >2TB size, so some other p.table format is used. When one says their /dev/sda is 2.5TB, expect further weirdness |
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| 12:13.17 | l0st-soul | :) |
| 12:13.23 | cantido | jelly: ah, I didn't know that! |
| 12:13.31 | l0st-soul | and /dev/sdb is 5.4 Tb |
| 12:13.42 | l0st-soul | good that i didnt boot from that ;) |
| 12:13.44 | jelly | l0st-soul: yeah, but you're not booting from there |
| 12:13.49 | l0st-soul | i would have needed grub3 ! |
| 12:14.15 | cantido | grub is a bit like hurd.. it'll never actually reach a point of finishedness |
| 12:14.24 | l0st-soul | feels good to have solved that problem i'm struggling since this morning |
| 12:14.26 | cantido | it'll always just about work |
| 12:14.31 | jelly | l0st-soul: if your raid controller allowed, a more compatible setup would be to use a small array-partition to boot from |
| 12:15.09 | jelly | l0st-soul: if the controller bios allows slicing arrays into smaller parts to present to BIOS, that is |
| 12:15.24 | cantido | would keep /boot and / on totally different disks or a DOM.. |
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| 12:15.42 | Empis | abrotman: old as what? |
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| 12:15.54 | Empis | abrotman: almost a fresh install |
| 12:16.02 | abrotman | Empis: is it a VPS or something? |
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| 12:16.11 | l0st-soul | jelly: i will try to remember that for next time .. it was the 1st machine i installed with more than 2tb |
| 12:16.12 | Empis | nope standalone |
| 12:16.19 | abrotman | Empis: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.debian.net |
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| 12:17.14 | Empis | http://paste.debian.net/87536/ |
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| 12:17.25 | jelly | l0st-soul: ah, typically our machines have a small raid1 for system and big raid whatever for storage (or external storage) |
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| 12:18.17 | abrotman | Empis: what country is your server in ? |
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| 12:19.54 | mooglenorph | Hi. Can I get a recommendation for a simple, gtk based music player with few deps? |
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| 12:20.01 | Empis | abrotman: sweden, se |
| 12:20.28 | cantido | mooglenorph: vlc |
| 12:20.35 | abrotman | Empis: uncomment line 12 and add "deb http://ftp.df.lth.se/debian/ lenny main" at the bottom of that file, then aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade && aptitude install cacti |
| 12:20.39 | mooglenorph | no mpd fronteneds, because I screwed up my mpd install/it won't play nice with user-level pulseaudio, and I don't have time to fix that right now |
| 12:20.50 | jelly | cantido: _few_ deps? vlc?? |
| 12:20.51 | abrotman | mooglenorph: audacious ? |
| 12:21.02 | abrotman | judd: depends audacious |
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| 12:21.04 | judd | audacious -- depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libaudclient1 (= 1.5.1-4), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.71), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libmcs1, libmowgli1 (>= 0.5.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.20.3), libsamplerate0, libsm6, libx11-6, audacious-plugins (>= 1.5.1), audacious-plugins (<< 2.0~), dbus, |
| 12:21.05 | judd | libaudid3tag1 (= 1.5.1-4), gtk2-engines-pixbuf. |
| 12:21.09 | abrotman | well .. not awful |
| 12:21.16 | cantido | jelly: vlc depens mostly on ffmpeg and friends |
| 12:21.24 | jelly | judd: depends vlc |
| 12:21.25 | judd | vlc -- depends: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2), libaa1 (>= 1.4p5), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libavcodec51 (>= 0.svn20080206-8) | libavcodec-unstripped-51 (>= 0.svn20080206-8), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libcaca0 (>= 0.99.beta14-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libcdio7, libcucul0 (>= 0.99.beta14-1), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.71), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libfribidi0 (>= 0.10.9), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), |
| 12:21.27 | judd | libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libglu1-mesa | libglu1, libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libiso9660-5, libjpeg62, libnotify1 (>= 0.4.4), libnotify1-gtk2.10, libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.20.3), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.5), libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1), libsm6, libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1), libtar, libtiff4, libvcdinfo0 (>> 0.7.23), libvlc0 (>= 0.8.6.h), libwx |
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| 12:21.31 | mooglenorph | Yeah, that's not bad at all. |
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| 12:21.31 | cantido | oh |
| 12:21.35 | Empis | abrotman: hmm, same shit :( |
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| 12:21.52 | jelly | cantido: the rest didn't fit |
| 12:22.03 | mooglenorph | abrotman: thanks. usually I use mpd, but... yeah. I'm dumb. |
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| 12:22.28 | cantido | mm in my defence most of that is probably already installed ;) |
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| 12:22.53 | l0st-soul | jelly: yes it seems more compatible that way :) anyway i wonder what has made both volumes to have thesame ID, and made lilo puke on it |
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| 12:23.21 | cantido | l0st-soul: that will be the fake MBR |
| 12:23.23 | abrotman | Empis: paste your sources.list again, and the output of `aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade && aptitude install cacti' |
| 12:23.28 | martianlobster | is there a 64 bit emulator in the repository? I would like to run a console mode only 64 bit linux box, in an emulator |
| 12:23.39 | cantido | martianlobster: qemu |
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| 12:23.44 | martianlobster | thans! |
| 12:23.45 | l0st-soul | cantido: so i would never have been able to "fix" it and keep using lilo |
| 12:23.53 | cantido | martianlobster: don't expect it to be fast |
| 12:23.56 | jelly | l0st-soul: perhaps lilo can't deal with >2TB devices properly either |
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| 12:24.15 | martianlobster | cantido: I have been on google for a while. It is always so nice when someone just gives me the answer. |
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| 12:24.19 | rudi_s_ | martianlobster: Use it with kvm and it's quite fast (if you have support in your processor). |
| 12:24.19 | cantido | jelly: the issue with lilo was that the volume id in the mbr was the same on both |
| 12:24.27 | martianlobster | cantido: I am just trying to get it to boot |
| 12:24.31 | martianlobster | rudi_s_: thanks, |
| 12:24.59 | jelly | cantido: mbr doesn't contain any volume id |
| 12:25.15 | cantido | rudi_s_: you can't use kvm on a 32bit system to emulate a 64bit one though.. |
| 12:25.16 | rudi_s_ | martianlobster: np, when you install kvm just use it instead of qemu, it accepts the same commands. |
| 12:25.20 | martianlobster | rudi_s_: this is my processor http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=30786 kvm isn't listed, but it says Virtualization Technology isn't enabled |
| 12:25.30 | rudi_s_ | cantido: Oh, didn't know that. |
| 12:25.39 | rudi_s_ | Then I guess it'll be slow. |
| 12:25.40 | cantido | rudi_s_: I'm pretty sure of that |
| 12:25.42 | beardy | abrotman: Is my services still requested? |
| 12:25.44 | cantido | rudi_s_: it just wouldn't work |
| 12:25.49 | rudi_s_ | martianlobster: ^ |
| 12:25.55 | abrotman | beardy: no, he's doing okay in english, thanks though! |
| 12:26.00 | Empis | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/87537/ |
| 12:26.00 | iluminator101 | abortman how i create a launcher for my private home so i dont have do cd $Home ecryptfs-mount-private everytime i log in |
| 12:26.04 | beardy | abrotman: Okay! |
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| 12:26.20 | jelly | martianlobster: that's a 64bit capable cpu. I _think_ you'll be able to run a 64bit vm inside eg. VirtualBox |
| 12:26.27 | martianlobster | I have a 64 bit processor, but I don't think it can emulate other 64 bit processors, because it doesn't have "virualization technology" http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=30786 |
| 12:26.32 | cantido | jelly: reading the docs again it does seem to be a bios thing |
| 12:26.34 | abrotman | iluminator101: no idea, i don't even know what ecryptfs is |
| 12:26.41 | abrotman | well .. i know what it is .. not how it works |
| 12:26.49 | martianlobster | jelly I will play around with the kernel, see if I can' find kvm |
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| 12:27.02 | cantido | martianlobster: virtualvox will run a 64bit vm on a 64bit machine without VT I think |
| 12:27.06 | abrotman | Empis: argh .. hold on |
| 12:27.14 | jelly | martianlobster: vbox doesn't _require_ hardware vt support |
| 12:27.17 | _empty | Found this in my access logs on my debian system, should I been worried? http://pastebin.com/AKGpPQ5r |
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| 12:27.21 | cantido | martianlobster: s/virtualvox/virtualbox/ |
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| 12:27.40 | abrotman | Empis: use "debian.lth.se" instead of "ftp.df.lth.se" |
| 12:27.46 | Empis | abrotman :P |
| 12:27.59 | cantido | martianlobster: I think I'm actually doing that right now.. I have a core2 without VT |
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| 12:28.48 | martianlobster | cantido: I just went spent a lot of time on virtual box research, and in #vbox, it looks like I can't run a 64 bit VM without virualization |
| 12:29.06 | martianlobster | cantido: if you get it to work, please let me know |
| 12:29.27 | cantido | martianlobster: mmm well qemu-system-x86_64 should work |
| 12:29.27 | martianlobster | I will stay logged into the channel as much a s possible, or you can email me at ClarkSims@AcumenSoftwareInc.com |
| 12:29.33 | cantido | martianlobster: but it will be slow |
| 12:30.04 | martianlobster | thats ok |
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| 12:31.29 | cantido | martianlobster: just tried it.. amd64 disc won't boot. So looks like you were right |
| 12:31.42 | martianlobster | lol, ok |
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| 12:32.33 | Empis | abrotman: ah there we go! |
| 12:32.41 | abrotman | Empis: all fixed up? |
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| 12:33.02 | Empis | yup, i will complete my sourcelist from a full working machine i got |
| 12:33.11 | cantido | martianlobster: kvm might work, but I think that would be about the same speed as qemu without hardware support |
| 12:33.15 | Empis | abrotman: thanks for ur time, u made my day! :) |
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| 12:33.32 | abrotman | hugs himself! |
| 12:33.51 | Empis | bring some coffe |
| 12:33.59 | martianlobster | cantido: my goal is to get this 64 bit kernel debugged. If I can get a logon, I will be happy |
| 12:34.14 | martianlobster | cantido: no speed is necessary |
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| 12:34.57 | cantido | martianlobster: oh, well qemu let's you step the machine from what I remember.. I think you can inspect the registers etc.. |
| 12:35.05 | cantido | s/let's/lets/ |
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| 12:37.21 | stew | !wheezy |
| 12:37.21 | dpkg | The next release will be called ``wheezy'' (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie), and will be Debian 7.0. |
| 12:37.50 | mooglenorph | No debian 6? |
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| 12:38.06 | cantido | martianlobster: squeeze |
| 12:38.06 | krisfremen | 6 = number of the devil :P |
| 12:38.09 | abrotman | stew: i just made that, be gentle! |
| 12:38.21 | abrotman | mooglenorph: yes, that is squeeze .. they just decided the name for the release after |
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| 12:38.39 | mooglenorph | ah, right. "next" confused me. |
| 12:38.49 | abrotman | stew: though i just did a copy/paste, so i guess it's not technically accurate |
| 12:39.05 | stew | abrotman: since I only got the mail from Maulkin 7 minutes ago, I was half expecting it not to exist yet |
| 12:39.07 | martianlobster | cantido: what is squeeze? |
| 12:39.42 | cantido | martianlobster: sorry, that was for mooglenorph |
| 12:39.42 | stew | dpkg: wheeze =~ s,next release,release after squeeze, |
| 12:39.43 | dpkg | stew: i didn't have anything called 'wheeze' to modify |
| 12:39.43 | abrotman | stew: yeah .. i was just doing that kind of email when it popped in .. but there was a wheezy factoid before: <dpkg> i heard wheezy is what fire_hawk thinks Debian 3.0 should be dubbed; Wheezy is the toy penguin from Toy Story 2. |
| 12:39.48 | martianlobster | lol o |
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| 12:39.54 | stew | dpkg: wheezy =~ s,next release,release after squeeze, |
| 12:39.54 | dpkg | OK, stew |
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| 12:40.13 | abrotman | stew: not even sure who fire_hawk is |
| 12:40.14 | stew | hah |
| 12:41.26 | poncha | how can i get an old package version? i need to get mysql-server 5.0.32 on lenny and the repo now has 5.0.51 |
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| 12:41.58 | stew | poncha: http://snapshot.debian.org |
| 12:42.13 | stew | poncha: note that that version of mysql-server is likely to have security issues |
| 12:43.00 | poncha | stew: i am having issues with replication because master suffers from some bug and later version doesnt want to replicate from it... and i cant upgrade a master right now |
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| 12:46.11 | poncha | stew: how exactly do i find which snapshot i need to get a version i seek? |
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| 12:47.16 | stew | poncha: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/mysql-dfsg-5.0/ |
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| 12:55.50 | frikinz | My system currently have 2 default routes (from dhcp). They have both metric. Do you know how packets are routed? first one added? |
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| 12:58.02 | stew | frikinz: first one added wins. the metric is pretty much ignored on linux |
| 12:58.32 | stew | frikinz: if you need to have 2 default routes, you need 2 routing tables, /msg dpkg split access |
| 12:59.58 | frikinz | yes, the first one added is choosen. okay. thanks stew |
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| 13:09.46 | frikinz | Do you guys know a usb wireless that has good support in linux? I will try to install debian, probably lenny. |
| 13:10.18 | frikinz | Its for an embedded system that will be hidden in a box, that's why I need a usb wireless adapter that will be out of the metal box. |
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| 13:19.05 | cantido | frikinz: most usb b/g dongles work now I think |
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| 13:19.46 | cantido | frikinz: the newer ones with N are a bit more trouble.. mine causes the machine to lock up ;) |
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| 13:22.54 | frikinz | Yes, I actually have to know which ieee it is. I fear it will be N (it will be commanded by an iphone, aww ) |
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| 13:24.32 | ^Willie^ | hmm afther a while can not say anything else then debian is reducing lots of stress ^^ |
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| 13:27.05 | djura-san | \o- |
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| 13:58.50 | makaveli | hi |
| 13:59.03 | makaveli | here i will describe my problem |
| 13:59.14 | makaveli | i cannot change tha password lenght |
| 13:59.19 | makaveli | i try it |
| 13:59.25 | StucKman | lenght? |
| 13:59.33 | makaveli | in /etc/pam-d/common-password |
| 13:59.42 | makaveli | here is what i put |
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| 14:00.00 | makaveli | password [success=1 default=ignore] pam_unix.so obscure min=4 sha512 |
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| 14:00.20 | makaveli | the minimum of the password is not 4 |
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| 14:00.40 | makaveli | and also if i change the value of 4 to 10 |
| 14:00.51 | makaveli | the minimum will not be 10 |
| 14:01.04 | Justin | makaveli: my common-password on lenny has password required pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=6 difok=3 |
| 14:01.16 | Justin | did you not already have that? |
| 14:01.18 | makaveli | password requisite pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=10 difok=5 |
| 14:01.26 | makaveli | ok |
| 14:01.29 | Justin | this not on lenny? |
| 14:01.30 | makaveli | i put 10 |
| 14:01.36 | makaveli | yes lenny |
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| 14:01.51 | makaveli | but the minimum is not 10 |
| 14:02.05 | makaveli | i also try on different distro |
| 14:02.20 | makaveli | and cannot change the minimum lenght |
| 14:02.28 | cantido | !enter |
| 14:02.29 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 14:03.15 | makaveli | Is there a way to force the password lenght ? |
| 14:03.52 | makaveli | The minimum is 6 but i cannot change the value |
| 14:04.51 | jelly | makaveli: how are you checking whether the length minimum is enforced or not? |
| 14:05.16 | makaveli | im using passwd |
| 14:05.23 | makaveli | to change my password |
| 14:05.38 | jelly | makaveli: and not as root? |
| 14:05.51 | makaveli | i am root |
| 14:05.55 | jelly | don't be. |
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| 14:06.05 | makaveli | just for this example |
| 14:06.31 | makaveli | cause im also working with minimum priviledge |
| 14:06.34 | jelly | don't, change a user's password as that user |
| 14:07.00 | makaveli | i need to change it as root |
| 14:07.03 | jelly | see if the length limits are enforced there |
| 14:07.04 | makaveli | ? |
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| 14:07.36 | cantido | makaveli: it's possible the root can set any password, try it as a user |
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| 14:07.53 | makaveli | if they are enforced as root they also may be enforced as a normal user |
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| 14:08.46 | makaveli | any value i try to put in the common-password to restrict the minimum lenght of the password it will always be 6 |
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| 14:09.13 | makaveli | also tryed on different distribution of linux |
| 14:09.27 | makaveli | non only Debian |
| 14:09.38 | makaveli | However i use Debian as system |
| 14:10.01 | makaveli | It is the best |
| 14:10.04 | makaveli | for me |
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| 14:20.58 | jelly | makaveli: doing "passwd foo" as root isn't the same as doing "passwd" as user foo |
| 14:23.05 | jpinx-eeepc | why would youtube-dl fail with "ERROR: format not available for video" ? and how to fix it? |
| 14:23.25 | jpinx-eeepc | lenny-bpo version |
| 14:23.57 | jpinx-eeepc | 2010.02.13 |
| 14:24.44 | arosen | Hello, I'm trying to install a new computer using the netinstall but its telling me that i'm missing firmware files bnx2-09-4.0.5.fw Where can I find these? (It says i can put them on a flash drive to add them) |
| 14:25.03 | makaveli | jelly: thanks i will try |
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| 14:25.52 | swoody | arosen: have you tried going through the install without them? |
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| 14:26.16 | arosen | swoody: its a network install so i need this to get my ethernet working first. |
| 14:26.21 | StucKman | I followed this: http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting for piix, ide-disk, ide-core and ide-pci-generic, but when I update-initramfs -u -v, I see the last three go in. any ideas? how can I ban a whole modules directory? I don't want any ide related modules |
| 14:26.30 | swoody | My laptop shows a similar firmware issue (for my eth0), but doesn't seem to make a difference on connectivity |
| 14:26.43 | swoody | arosen: ^^ |
| 14:26.56 | Justin | no.. you actually need the bnx2 firmware |
| 14:26.58 | arosen | swoody: when i ignore it, it asks me what kind of card i have |
| 14:27.12 | swoody | arosen: and it doesn't show any devices then? |
| 14:27.33 | Justin | arosen: are you trying to install lenny or squeeze? |
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| 14:28.39 | arosen | Justin: I'm not sure its just the net installer from the debian website. debian-505-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 14:30.29 | Justin | arosen: do you have a usb drive you could use? |
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| 14:30.44 | Justin | that's the easiest way to fix it.. you just need to do what http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch06s04 says |
| 14:30.44 | arosen | Justin: yes |
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| 14:31.46 | stew | arosen: there is a firmware-bnx2 package in non-free you'll want to stick onto the usb drive following that guide^ |
| 14:32.13 | Justin | stew: that's what the guide tells you to do |
| 14:32.30 | Justin | though they just have you download and unpack the firmware tarball which includes all the firmwares |
| 14:32.54 | Justin | which is good since with bnx2 there are two |
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| 14:33.44 | Haris | Hello people, guys, folks, everyone, all |
| 14:33.51 | Haris | is openjdk = sun java jdk |
| 14:33.54 | Haris | ? |
| 14:34.00 | avar | no |
| 14:34.26 | arosen | Justin: do i just put firmware-bnx2_0.14+lenny2_all.deb on a flashdrive or do i need to unpack that some how? |
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| 14:34.45 | Justin | arosen: nope, just put all the .debs on the drive |
| 14:34.57 | arosen | thanks i'll give it a shot now |
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| 14:43.28 | cantido | Haris: openjdk passes all the TCK .. so it is as compatiable as you need |
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| 14:45.32 | Haris | will openeem accept it as 'compatible' ? |
| 14:45.36 | Haris | openemm+ |
| 14:45.52 | cantido | Haris: I don't see why not |
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| 14:46.55 | pyrophelia | has anybody used ceph? |
| 14:47.40 | pyrophelia | i'm thinking about playing around with a btrfs/ceph cluster and I was wondering how stable it was. I know it was just included in the kernel as experimental so i'm a little nervous. |
| 14:48.12 | cantido | pyrophelia: get some test nodes running in virtualbox or something and try it |
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| 14:48.34 | cantido | pyrophelia: if it's marked as experimental I'm guessing it's not production ready |
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| 14:48.54 | pyrophelia | kinda figured that. I was just wanted to know what the outstanding bugs were, if any. |
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| 14:50.47 | djp_ | i have created a script, changed its perms to make it executable and saved it in /etc/init.d. i've issued the command update-rc.d script defaults. do i need to do anything extra in order for this script to run in the background when executed at boot? |
| 14:51.40 | cantido | djp_: um.. your script should exit |
| 14:51.59 | cantido | djp_: the init script doesn't get backgrounded automatically |
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| 14:52.41 | pyrophelia | djp_, i'm not a scipting guru but I believe you also have to create a symlink in the rc#.d file |
| 14:53.29 | djp_ | cantido: basically i want the script to be activated at boot and run in the background. so if i do like i've described above, it will just exit? |
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| 14:54.00 | cantido | djp_: if your script continues to run your boot up will hang |
| 14:54.36 | cantido | djp_: all an init script should do is check stuff and then start a daemon that goes off into the background |
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| 14:54.50 | voipzapper | what channel(s) would be a good place to ask some questions about regular expressions? |
| 14:54.58 | ScottG | Could someone recommend a package that is good for manipulating my webcam? Mainly zooming and such |
| 14:55.05 | stew | voipzapper: #regex |
| 14:55.20 | voipzapper | stew: heh heh. thx v m :-) |
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| 14:55.55 | cantido | djp_: take a look at /etc/init.d/exim4 for example .. right at the end it does exit 0 |
| 14:56.16 | djp_ | cantido: ah, so i should be fine then. yes, the script does do like you say, check stuff and then launch a daemon |
| 14:57.01 | cantido | djp_: as long as that daemon detaches and starts running in the background the script should continue and exit.. |
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| 14:57.42 | cantido | djp_: have a look at start-stop-daemon. it can do stuff like switching users etc for you |
| 14:57.52 | djp_ | cantido: cheers |
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| 15:04.53 | Haris | is there a package named sun-java6-jdk ? |
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| 15:05.02 | Haris | as far as I'v searched it, it doesn't exist |
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| 15:05.37 | themill | Haris: there is but it's non-free: /msg dpkg install java |
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| 15:07.22 | neeraj | I have one folder with many files inside it and the same folder at another place but with some changes in files. How Can I can find out the difference? |
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| 15:08.08 | Justin | neeraj: with diff |
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| 15:08.37 | surlyjake | i have a lenny installation that when i try to log in at the console as root, after i hit enter ONCE, i get "login incorrect" four times, "Maximum number of tries exceeded (5)". then pushed back out to the username prompt |
| 15:08.58 | Justin | surlyjake: what did you do? |
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| 15:09.15 | surlyjake | justin, good question. ssh still works fine though |
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| 15:09.22 | Justin | surlyjake: sounds like pam |
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| 15:11.27 | Haris | themill: Sun's java is now non-free ? |
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| 15:11.45 | Haris | they'r also going for copyrights/paid licensing stuff ? |
| 15:11.46 | stew | Haris: always was |
| 15:11.54 | Haris | o_O |
| 15:12.06 | stew | Haris: i don't know about paid licensing, but it includes stuff for which they don't provide the source |
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| 15:12.22 | Haris | they didn't charge for jdk in the past |
| 15:12.25 | stew | Haris: openjdk is a free version, which shares much of the code |
| 15:12.50 | stew | Haris: when we say free here, we are referring to complaiance with the dfsg, were not talking about money |
| 15:12.55 | stew | !dfsg |
| 15:12.55 | dpkg | DFSG is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines . For a full list of DFSG-compatible/incompatible software licenses, see http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses |
| 15:13.10 | Haris | :o |
| 15:13.13 | cantido | Haris: you can have both sun's jdk and openjdk installed btw |
| 15:13.13 | Haris | that's ok |
| 15:13.45 | cantido | Haris: 99.9999% that runs with sun's jdk6 will work with openjdk 6 |
| 15:13.52 | pyrophelia | I don't mean to start a flame war with this question but I've always wondered about Linux certs. I've never met a paper RHCE before, they either know it or don't - unlike paper MCSE's. Is there anything like that for Debian? |
| 15:14.16 | cantido | pyrophelia: LPIC intends to be a generic cert I think |
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| 15:14.32 | pyrophelia | Thanks, i'll look into it |
| 15:14.58 | cantido | pyrophelia: but if you had an LPIC cert and 0 years actual experience I don't think you would do any better than if you didn't have the cert |
| 15:15.01 | spacepluk | cantido: I had some problems with eclipse+opensdk but that was some time ago |
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| 15:15.30 | cantido | spacepluk: that could have been OpenJDK 7 though.. which is older than 6.. ;) |
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| 15:15.50 | cantido | spacepluk: and you can have both :) |
| 15:15.57 | Haris | my requirement is basic. No need for to go in that much depth |
| 15:16.05 | Haris | thankyou! folks |
| 15:16.26 | spacepluk | cantido: anyway, I'm using mostly vim now :P |
| 15:16.49 | cantido | wishes someone would fix the IPv6 issues :( |
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| 15:17.21 | pyrophelia | well I'm trying to do is avoid being another paper cert. admin. From everything i've read the RHCE and CCIE exams are the most brutal IT exams around. I just wanted to know what to aim for. |
| 15:17.29 | pyrophelia | s/well/what |
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| 15:17.46 | cantido | pyrophelia: what IT actually mean though? |
| 15:18.00 | pyrophelia | pardon? |
| 15:18.25 | cantido | not sure I would put sys admin or network admin in the same pot as "using excel" |
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| 15:18.47 | pyrophelia | if you mean i'm using IT ambiguously i'm sorry but i don't have much of a choice in my position. |
| 15:19.32 | cantido | pyrophelia: there's a Cisco cert that only 100 or so people have I think.. that would be one to go for |
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| 15:20.41 | pyrophelia | I built and manage a Back Blaze Pd rack (~970TB). I installed and manage the network, and mange all of the IT of our workstations (win and osx clients). I've also had to build some exotic Final cut HD rendering clusters. If there's a job to do...I do it :/. |
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| 15:21.10 | pyrophelia | my problem is I'm kinda hitting a wall. I've been more reactionary to problems |
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| 15:21.47 | cantido | I'm guessing that all that experience would help you more that a cert you can go off and do in India very cheaply |
| 15:22.16 | pyrophelia | what do you mean? |
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| 15:23.12 | pyrophelia | I just want to put myself in a position where I can learn more. I'm in so many different things every day it's hard for me to focus and improve 1 specific topic. |
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| 15:23.25 | cantido | I have friends with tons of cisco certs. They don't know what the OSI is.. they basically did 7 day intensive courses in India (Much cheaper than the UK or US) and learned what they needed to tick the right checkbox |
| 15:23.45 | pyrophelia | oooh |
| 15:24.10 | cantido | I have an LPIC behind me that get's confused with the concept of chroots |
| 15:24.43 | pyrophelia | so they got them for the paycheck basically right? |
| 15:25.23 | cantido | And to get interviews I suppose.. the only Debian qual you could get would to be to become a DD |
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| 15:25.35 | pyrophelia | that's not my goal at all. I work for a small business that moves as fast as I can. So the more I can do for the company the more I make. I'm not concerned with the paycheck they pay me fine already. I just want to know what and where to improve. |
| 15:25.45 | pyrophelia | DD? |
| 15:25.50 | cantido | Debian Developer |
| 15:25.52 | pyrophelia | ah |
| 15:25.58 | pyrophelia | that's not really my focus |
| 15:26.06 | pyrophelia | I use debian on my back blaze cluster |
| 15:26.18 | pyrophelia | cent for our websites |
| 15:26.28 | cantido | If you want to learn new things LPIC etc isn't going to do you any favours |
| 15:27.01 | surlyjake | justin, i reset all pam configs back to defaults. i also removed my changes to /etc/nsswitch.conf. here is my /var/log/auth.log: http://debian.pastebin.com/3Wn5Ev4s |
| 15:27.01 | abrotman | there is #debian-offtopic also |
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| 15:27.36 | pyrophelia | I wondered if abortman was going to show up. |
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| 15:27.54 | abrotman | ah .. someone can't use tab .. that might be some good training |
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| 15:28.21 | Rug | amphi: You awake? |
| 15:28.23 | Justin | surlyjake: wow, what did you do to break it like that? |
| 15:28.33 | cantido | abortman does sound good though |
| 15:29.03 | Justin | surlyjake: what does your /etc/pam.d/login look like? |
| 15:29.15 | surlyjake | justin: for a while it was authenticating against active directory.... now i don't care and just want to log into my console |
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| 15:29.46 | pyrophelia | abrotman, as cheerful as I've always remembered. I've always wondered, what do you do? You've been here since I built my first debian box. Mmm Potato. |
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| 15:30.10 | abrotman | i don't think i've been here that long |
| 15:30.24 | abrotman | (i've been using Debian longer than that, but not #debian) |
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| 15:31.02 | pyrophelia | yeap, you use to cut me down when I asked for help using getting gpm to work |
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| 15:31.16 | Rug | How do I get the following script to launch at login: http://pastebin.com/ZrBAw0eD I have tried setting/saving the xrandr settings, but it doesn't keep after reboot. This script seems to be the only way to get it to work. |
| 15:31.29 | surlyjake | justin: its complete jibberish! random characters and unreadable. i'm going to wipe it out and copy a working one |
| 15:31.38 | abrotman | pyrophelia: i wasn't here then, trust me |
| 15:31.39 | fxiny | any factoids about rtl8169 and squeeze ? |
| 15:32.07 | pyrophelia | ok |
| 15:33.25 | cantido | Rug: what desktop environment? |
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| 15:33.53 | Rug | gdm, but running fluxbox as my wm |
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| 15:34.52 | surlyjake | justin: look at this: http://debian.pastebin.com/GHxQTqRS |
| 15:35.12 | stew | login -> /usr/share/man/man1/less.1.gz |
| 15:35.18 | fxiny | can't find intel nics in this banana neighbourhood , only netgear GA311 (rtl 8169) and tulip-linksysy , don't want tulip . i've checked lenny kernel sources for 8169 ,but the tubes are telling me squeeze could ask for 8169 firmware , anything ? |
| 15:35.20 | stew | surlyjake: why is login linking to a manpage? |
| 15:35.46 | surlyjake | idk, but its kinof scary. |
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| 15:36.02 | jargon- | anyone else got this python problem on squeeze? http://dpaste.com/238396/ |
| 15:36.06 | jelly | fxiny: /msg dpkg listkeys rtl8169 |
| 15:36.12 | cantido | Rug: /etc/X11/Xsession.d maybe? |
| 15:36.19 | fxiny | jelly: nice , thanx |
| 15:36.28 | cantido | Rug: some DE's have applets that look after RandR for you |
| 15:36.39 | Seven | hi does anyone know how can i fix this error : Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0;0) computer is not starting ! |
| 15:37.24 | oblu_ | Seven: thats ok, dont panic. |
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| 15:37.57 | Rug | cantido: yeah, none (both KDE & Gnome) have worked right. the script is the only thing that has worked. I don't want it in .bashrc because then it tries to launch with every xterm I open. |
| 15:38.02 | Haris | Seven: take off your hdd from the current box. put it on a box that boots up. Copy a version of the kernel file that you don't have, then put it back in the system you extracted it from, boot up the box, and be happy :D |
| 15:38.14 | petemc | wtf |
| 15:38.20 | Haris | Seven: In other words, *don't panic* |
| 15:38.28 | fxiny | jelly: dkpg is sleeping , i'll try later |
| 15:38.30 | cantido | Rug: look at the scripts in Xsession.d .. you should be able to put it there |
| 15:38.34 | Seven | haha ok |
| 15:38.42 | Rug | cantido: thanks I'll look |
| 15:38.59 | petemc | Seven: did you update your kernel or what preceeded this error |
| 15:39.02 | Seven | problem is i have a ssd 8gb hdd no way to plug that in an other device |
| 15:39.03 | jelly | fxiny: works for me (says there are 0 results, tho) |
| 15:39.18 | Haris | there's nothing to panic for. You are just missing one file i.e., kernel. You just need to copy it from somewhere and you'll be good |
| 15:39.42 | oblu_ | Seven: bootup from some live linux dvd/cd and play with it. |
| 15:39.43 | surlyjake | justin, stew: the "login.dpgk-new" file appears to have a legit version of the pam login config. do you think it could've been an interrupted/corrupted update? |
| 15:39.44 | cantido | Haris: I don't think that's the problem |
| 15:39.45 | jelly | Haris: that message doesn't say "The kernel is missing"! |
| 15:39.52 | Seven | i dont think i did cause i turned off auto update |
| 15:40.01 | cantido | surlyjake: can you boot a cd? |
| 15:40.09 | Haris | jelly: ah, ok. Usually it does, though. |
| 15:40.16 | stew | Haris: no |
| 15:40.17 | surlyjake | sure. what do you suggest? |
| 15:40.19 | cantido | surlyjake: sorry, for Seven |
| 15:40.23 | surlyjake | ? |
| 15:40.24 | surlyjake | aight |
| 15:40.32 | Haris | as per my knowledge. |
| 15:40.36 | Rastafari | Hi Im trying to install opera under my debian and Im receiving a error msg , dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera: operates depends on libglib2.0-0 (> = 2.16.0), however: Version of libglib2.0-0 on system is 2.12.4-2. Version of libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 on system is 0.10.8-1. |
| 15:40.44 | jelly | Haris: it says "the kernel is here and booted". It also says "the kernel can't find a device to mount as the root filesystem to continue booting the OS" |
| 15:40.47 | Rastafari | can someone help me |
| 15:40.47 | Justin | surlyjake: no, you get that file when dpkg asks you if you want to overwrite the config file and you say no |
| 15:40.49 | cantido | Seven: can you boot an installer disc?.. |
| 15:40.59 | cantido | didn't know that Debian had auto update |
| 15:41.17 | Haris | ah! right |
| 15:41.18 | jelly | Haris: if the kernel wasn't there, it wouldn't be Linux complaining about, but the boot loader |
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| 15:41.20 | Haris | just re-read it |
| 15:41.28 | abrotman | Rastafari: put it in a pastebin |
| 15:41.36 | Rastafari | put it what |
| 15:41.44 | abrotman | the complete error and command |
| 15:41.52 | Rastafari | aaa pastebin |
| 15:41.53 | fxiny | jelly: i see the "Factoid search of 'rtl' by key" on my msg window , someone send it to me , checking my irssi settings |
| 15:41.54 | Rastafari | w8 |
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| 15:42.01 | Haris | my bad. |
| 15:43.09 | stew | surlyjake: when installing a new version, it saw that you amde changes and didn't want to overwrite them, so it created a .dpkg-new version instead of replacing yours |
| 15:43.50 | Rastafari | abrotman: I tried /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 15:44.01 | surlyjake | justin,stew: i deleted the link, renamed the 'login.dpkg-new' file to 'login'... and its working again. thanks for your help. |
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| 15:44.08 | Rastafari | but I sent already the error on the msg |
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| 15:45.25 | Rastafari | abrotman: http://pastie.org/1136191 |
| 15:46.00 | Rastafari | abrotman: http://pastie.org/1136194 |
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| 15:47.05 | Rug | cantido: Xsession.d didn't work. |
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| 15:48.03 | fxiny | jelly: heheh, no irssi but iptables blocking dpkg ;) -> "Factoid search of 'rtl8169' by key returned no result" |
| 15:48.19 | fxiny | no porbs |
| 15:48.27 | jelly | fxiny: try just rtl |
| 15:50.00 | fxiny | jelly: nothing , there is a ncurses screenshots on google about rtl8169 squeeze and firmware , but with a trunk kernel , so i guess a firmware is required |
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| 15:50.49 | jelly | !r8169 |
| 15:50.49 | dpkg | [r8169] the Realtek RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver, included in the mainline Linux kernel. For controller specific information, ask me about <rtl8101e>, <rtl8168d>. Several r8169 bugs were corrected in linux-2.6 2.6.26-21. A MDIO timing issue affecting DHCP operation (Debian bug #583139) was fixed in linux-2.6 2.6.26-24, ask me about <5.0.5>. |
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| 15:51.14 | jelly | fxiny: also: listvals to search the contents |
| 15:51.35 | jelly | dpkg, rtl8169 is <reply>see r8169 |
| 15:51.35 | dpkg | jelly: okay |
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| 15:53.00 | fxiny | jelly: i've unpacked and searched lenny kernel sources , i've seen the 8169 . been to kmuto site (btw very nice) and some other sites |
| 15:53.01 | amanita_ | Do you know any cool site able to send stuff to other developers, like zipped docs and screencast vids < 50 mb? Regards. |
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| 15:54.33 | abrotman | amanita_: ask google |
| 15:54.54 | fxiny | jelly: here it is : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=48797 |
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| 15:56.07 | fxiny | no problems |
| 15:56.28 | fxiny | money still in my pockets :) |
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| 15:59.38 | Rastafari | Hi Im trying to install opera here and Im receiving this error msg http://pastie.org/1136191 |
| 16:00.24 | jelly | Rastafari: that package isn't built for your OS release. |
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| 16:01.05 | Rastafari | jelly: could u help me install opera |
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| 16:01.46 | jelly | Rastafari: I can't. However, you seem to have Debian 4.0 installed, which is outdated and not supported any more. If possible, upgrade that system to the still supported Debian 5.0. |
| 16:02.06 | jelly | dpkg: etch->lenny |
| 16:02.07 | dpkg | Read the release notes, ask me about <lenny release notes>. Ensure your Etch installation is up to date, ask me about <etch sources.list> (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Then ask me about <lenny sources.list>. aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask me about <apt-listbugs>, <etch->lenny key>. |
| 16:02.07 | Rastafari | ho w |
| 16:02.15 | fxiny | ahhh craigevil explained in two lines -> "Both versions can operate without userspace firmware as of linux-2.6 2.6.32-3" |
| 16:02.27 | jelly | Rastafari: /msg dpkg etch->lenny, read that. |
| 16:02.52 | jelly | Rastafari: it's not a trivial procedure, but shouldn't be too hard. |
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| 16:03.04 | fxiny | it was a bug |
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| 16:03.15 | Trawlen | halp, how do i add an ip range alias in debian? |
| 16:03.36 | jelly | Trawlen: how many addresses are you planning to add? |
| 16:03.52 | Trawlen | Well i apparently got a /29 block (5 useable ips). |
| 16:04.06 | Trawlen | But im not 100% sure, could be /28 (13). So if i config it wrong will all networking die? |
| 16:04.29 | jelly | Trawlen: and you're going to point them all to the same machine? |
| 16:04.47 | Trawlen | Well, im not sure what im doing exactly. I need them for VMs. |
| 16:06.12 | jelly | Trawlen: there is more than one way to do this. A simple setup would be to allocate just one IP for the host, set up bridged networking for the VM guests and configure each one with an available IP. |
| 16:07.06 | jelly | you will have to peruse your VM solution documentation for details |
| 16:07.08 | Trawlen | I already have a /28 block configured on eth0 |
| 16:07.18 | Rastafari | I got randomic ip , my modem , so how do I switch ips through terminal ? |
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| 16:08.28 | Trawlen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.32 | Trawlen | That is eth0. |
| 16:08.35 | jelly | Trawlen: in the proposed configuration, you'd configure the guests' network in the same block |
| 16:08.51 | jelly | just like they were directly on the network |
| 16:09.06 | jelly | this is what a bridged networking configuration does |
| 16:09.46 | Trawlen | http://pastebin.com/Niar2dwS |
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| 16:10.07 | Trawlen | All i wanna do is add the IPs. I dont have the first clue how, haven't touched networking before |
| 16:10.24 | jelly | Trawlen: do you have the VM guests running? |
| 16:10.30 | Trawlen | yes |
| 16:10.34 | Trawlen | Its OpenVZ |
| 16:11.00 | Trawlen | All i know how to do is --ipadd then the IP. Im not sure how networking is set up thats just how i do it |
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| 16:11.35 | jelly | Trawlen: I'm clueless about OpenVZ. Is configuring the addresses on the host part needed at all or not? |
| 16:12.04 | jelly | !openvz |
| 16:12.05 | dpkg | OpenVZ provides OS-level virtualization, creating isolated and secure virtual private servers on a single physical server. Installation instructions at http://wiki.openvz.org/Installation_on_Debian . #openvz on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
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| 16:13.00 | Trawlen | Well, right now, the main block of IPs that i have are all assigned to the host machine and then i can just add them to virtual machines with a command. |
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| 16:14.01 | jelly | Trawlen: read /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 16:14.26 | jelly | Trawlen: that's the basic network configuration file in Debian |
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| 16:15.29 | jelly | Trawlen: you could add 12 more eth0:0, eth0:1, eth0:2... ip aliases. That would be a bit unsightly. |
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| 16:15.56 | Trawlen | Yeah i need to add them to the main machine. I know i can through lots of aliases, but is there a way to add a range like in CentOS for example you can add a range |
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| 16:17.45 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 16:17.56 | johnfg | I'm setting up lenny to be a vpn server. |
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| 16:18.24 | jelly | Trawlen: no and yes. A cleaner approach could be to add them in a post-up line for the eth0 inteface |
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| 16:18.55 | johnfg | The page I'm following has me uncomment to allow ipv4 packet forwarding, but not for ipv6. Would it hurt to uncomment both? |
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| 16:19.25 | jelly | Trawlen: eg. post-up for i in `seq 34 46`; do ip a add 66.96.222.$i/28 dev eth0; done |
| 16:19.28 | fas3r | can i execute a script when an user connect with ssh ( on the prompt) ... ? |
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| 16:19.51 | fas3r | to ask a passprhase or something like that |
| 16:20.24 | jelly | Trawlen: since ifup/ifdown in debian thinks it failed if any post-up action fails, you might have to add || true to that or a similar line |
| 16:20.24 | johnfg | Also, in configuring pptpd.conf do they want the static ip of the server, or the subnet ip? |
| 16:20.41 | sedstapler | johnfg: Whatever you do, make sure that IPv6 is either disabled or configured properly. Broken IPv6 configurations are becomine a problem more often nowadays. |
| 16:21.07 | fxiny | fas3r: ssh login banner ? |
| 16:21.07 | jelly | Trawlen: (note that addresses added with ip aren't visible with ifconfig, but are visible in "ip a" output) |
| 16:21.07 | nsadmin | fas3r: why would you want to? |
| 16:21.12 | johnfg | sedstapler, Thanks, I'll leave it commented out for now, as I'm just doing this stuff for the first time. |
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| 16:21.59 | Cisien_ | jelly, so, if i do something like 'up cmd that might fail || true', if the cmd fails, it still continues, and brings up the interface? |
| 16:22.09 | fas3r | nsadmin: because i dev a generator of pass between a client and a server and i would like to use it |
| 16:22.40 | nsadmin | for? |
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| 16:22.51 | fas3r | secure my acces .. |
| 16:23.13 | fas3r | but it's not the question :) |
| 16:23.45 | nsadmin | perhaps the best thing for you to do is decide whether you trust ssh |
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| 16:24.18 | fas3r | nsadmin: i trust him |
| 16:24.35 | fas3r | but i used it for my mebsite so withnot after ssh :) |
| 16:24.43 | fas3r | and i guess it's a good question ... |
| 16:24.51 | ajsie | debian is more stable than ubuntu? |
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| 16:25.01 | Cisien_ | ubuntu is debian |
| 16:25.08 | simonrvn | no it is not |
| 16:25.10 | nsadmin | actually it's not |
| 16:25.15 | iman | whats the best p2p apllciation like limewire ? |
| 16:25.15 | tharkun | hell no |
| 16:25.32 | nsadmin | ubuntu uses similar package manager |
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| 16:25.40 | Cisien_ | ahh |
| 16:25.49 | Cisien_ | well, debian is better, regardless |
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| 16:26.22 | nsadmin | it's gooderer! |
| 16:26.29 | Cisien_ | ^^ |
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| 16:27.18 | fxiny | a myth can't be worse or better : takes no labels |
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| 16:28.07 | nsadmin | ajsie the two projects have different goals, and ubuntu does not start with debian stable, it starts with debian unstable |
| 16:28.21 | nsadmin | bettererer? |
| 16:29.02 | nsadmin | then it works with that for about 5 months or something, then releases whatever it's got |
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| 16:29.32 | nsadmin | their goal is not stability |
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| 16:41.36 | pallgone | nsadmin: no, their goal is to rule the world with u |
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| 16:51.23 | qbit_ | hola |
| 16:51.34 | pallgone | !hola |
| 16:51.34 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat |
| 16:51.42 | qbit_ | lal |
| 16:51.49 | qbit_ | thanks pallgone - i speak english :) |
| 16:51.55 | pallgone | qbit_: :) |
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| 16:52.42 | qbit_ | what would be the best way to add a new patch to a package? ( attempting to patch stunnel with haproxy's xforwardfor patch ) |
| 16:52.59 | tharkun | patch ?? |
| 16:53.01 | qbit_ | i did apt-get source stunnel.. and patch -p1 < patchfile .. then dbuild |
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| 16:53.18 | qbit_ | but it doesn't seem to change |
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| 16:54.23 | nsadmin | doesn't seem to change what? |
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| 16:54.57 | nsadmin | if you didn't do anything after dbuild, then you have a package and it's not installed |
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| 16:55.21 | qbit_ | i dpkg -i'd the new .deb |
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| 16:55.55 | nsadmin | "doesn't seem to change" is about as useful as "doesn't work" |
| 16:55.56 | nsadmin | so |
| 16:56.19 | nsadmin | what behavior specifically are you expecting that it's not doing? |
| 16:56.22 | qbit_ | the md5sum for the stunnel bin is the same as the old one .. so i assume nothing changed |
| 16:56.40 | qbit_ | and also my xforwarding issue is the same as before |
| 16:56.44 | ChrisiPK | hi everyone :) i have installed debian using a dm-crypt encrypted volume and putting / on it. when i try to boot it and enter the password, it tells me "key slot 0 unlocked. command successful. cryptsetup: unknown fstype, bad password or options?" and prompts me for the password again. i have tried reinstalling, but that didn't solve the issue. what am i doing wrong? is there any other way to at least boot up a shell and try to mount the drive manu |
| 16:56.45 | ChrisiPK | ally? |
| 16:56.51 | qbit_ | the man page doesn't reflect changes in the patch |
| 16:56.57 | qbit_ | so |
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| 16:57.01 | qbit_ | pretty sure it didn't apply |
| 16:57.35 | tharkun | qbit_: did you check that the patch is applied using diff ? |
| 16:57.46 | nsadmin | what I would do is blow away the source ang get it again, then apply the patch |
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| 16:58.11 | nsadmin | capture the output to a file |
| 16:58.15 | qbit_ | but applying it with patch -p1 should work, correct? |
| 16:58.26 | simonrvn | if it was made that way yes |
| 16:58.37 | qbit_ | if the patch was made that way ? |
| 16:58.46 | nsadmin | no idea what the correct -p number is, you might have to determine that |
| 16:58.58 | simonrvn | -pX depends on where it was made |
| 16:59.11 | nsadmin | by looking at the patch and noticing what dir you're in |
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| 16:59.45 | qbit_ | k |
| 17:00.13 | nsadmin | and knowing exactly what -p does |
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| 17:00.40 | qbit_ | yeah.. just man'd |
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| 17:01.23 | simonrvn | sometimes i see patches where it was in the same dir as the file to be patched.... |
| 17:02.00 | fxiny | simonrvn: placebo patches ? |
| 17:02.15 | simonrvn | heh |
| 17:02.19 | jelly-home | p0 |
| 17:02.37 | simonrvn | p0p0 |
| 17:02.39 | nsadmin | not necessarily |
| 17:02.55 | b0nghitter | W: GPG error: http://debian-multimedia.org lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 17:03.04 | b0nghitter | i ran apt-get update twice already |
| 17:03.21 | nsadmin | the patch could be made for -p1 when you;re in the dir with the patch so you don't have to supply a -p number |
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| 17:03.55 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: where's boot ? boot must be uncrypted |
| 17:03.55 | qbit_ | the files are listed like "stunnel-4.29/bla/blalblab.c" |
| 17:04.07 | ChrisiPK | fxiny, /boot is on a separate partition and is unencrypted |
| 17:04.08 | jelly-home | ,versions stunnel |
| 17:04.09 | nsadmin | b0nghitter: get the key |
| 17:04.10 | judd | stunnel -- etch: 2:3.26-dfsg-1; lenny: 3:4.22-2; sid: 3:4.29-1; squeeze: 3:4.29-1; experimental: 3:4.33-1 |
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| 17:04.19 | simonrvn | nsadmin: humour in text medium ;) |
| 17:04.55 | ChrisiPK | it boots up fine...until it tries to mount the encrypted drive |
| 17:05.02 | b0nghitter | nsadmin: im following http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs it doesnt say anything about a key |
| 17:05.06 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell b0nghitter about dmm lenny |
| 17:05.31 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: i guess the problem is the initram |
| 17:05.44 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: got the private message from dpkg? |
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| 17:06.01 | b0nghitter | yes ty |
| 17:06.03 | tharkun | hmm I have this Blueetoth Mini-card device connected to the usb bus, how do i get the kernel module to use it? pciid is of no use (obviously) |
| 17:06.05 | nsadmin | MultimediaCodecs is probably not generally about how to access the dmm repos\ |
| 17:06.21 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: go to http://www.debian-administration.org/ and search for LUKS or encrpytion |
| 17:06.24 | b0nghitter | dpkg, tell b0nghitter about apt-key 1F41B907 |
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| 17:06.58 | nsadmin | or /msg dpkg apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 17:07.07 | b0nghitter | oh, ok |
| 17:07.12 | nsadmin | which is probably what the factoid said |
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| 17:07.22 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: install that package instead |
| 17:07.52 | ChrisiPK | fxiny, will do...but i suppose the installer is broken, because i did exactly what i did to the ubuntu installer and ubuntu installed fine |
| 17:08.02 | b0nghitter | works, thanks... it said it might be a security risk.. is it really? |
| 17:08.32 | jelly-home | yes, you're installing stuff from a source you don't trust |
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| 17:09.10 | nsadmin | if you're assuming that, then no source is a trustable source |
| 17:09.20 | jelly-home | nsadmin: untrue |
| 17:09.25 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: a LUKS system works as charm in debian , very good performances and can be upograded like a normal system as usual |
| 17:09.38 | b0nghitter | do i need to reinstall VLC or anything to detect the new codecs etc? |
| 17:09.56 | nsadmin | how do you know he doesn't trust the source? is it actually that you don't? |
| 17:10.18 | jelly-home | nsadmin: if the debian-multimedia-keyring package was present in debian, there'd be a chain of trust |
| 17:10.24 | ChrisiPK | hm...so far i have used dm-crypt...does it make a difference? |
| 17:10.31 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: i upgraded my etch LUKS system to lenny and i will upgrade it again to squeeze |
| 17:10.37 | nsadmin | why isn't it? |
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| 17:10.53 | ChrisiPK | i have upgraded my dm-crypted ubuntu system several times without a problem |
| 17:11.06 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: do you have a working unencrypted debian system ? |
| 17:11.10 | ChrisiPK | no |
| 17:11.24 | nsadmin | whether there is a chain of trust is independent of whether any particular person trusts something |
| 17:11.36 | ChrisiPK | why? should i install without encryption and encrypt it after that? |
| 17:12.05 | jelly-home | nsadmin: I meant "his apt configuration", not the user themselves |
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| 17:12.17 | nsadmin | ahh, ok |
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| 17:13.46 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: if you installed additional lib* packages you probably need to start vlc again |
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| 17:14.41 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: no , the installer can do it just fine , maybe you overlooked something . in etch i've done a cloning : setting up the encryption layer , build the initram , keys , crypttab , fstab ,everything , from a normal system |
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| 17:15.00 | johnfg | Also, in configuring pptpd.conf do they want the static ip of the server, or the subnet ip? |
| 17:15.00 | b0nghitter | i did restart it, it doesnt decode XViD |
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| 17:15.38 | johnfg | And for the remote ip, would they want this: 192.168.0.2? The subnet ip here? |
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| 17:16.14 | fxiny | last week i migrate it to another hd , just make sure the initram is ok and if you enlarge or shrink a partition make new keys |
| 17:16.44 | ChrisiPK | hmm |
| 17:16.56 | fxiny | first time i enlarged my LUKS home i could not mount it |
| 17:17.15 | fxiny | with the old key at boot |
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| 17:17.37 | ChrisiPK | i don't really understand why it doesn't mount the filesystem...furthermore, it asks for a key for hda2_cryptp2 and after that for hda2_cryptp1...but i only have one encrypted partition |
| 17:18.09 | ChrisiPK | and the same key unlocks both of them, but mounts none of them... |
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| 17:18.20 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: what's in the fstab/crypttab ? |
| 17:18.36 | ChrisiPK | i have no idea...how do i access that? is it on /boot? |
| 17:19.11 | ChrisiPK | afaik it is on /etc |
| 17:19.19 | ChrisiPK | which should be on the encrypted device, right? |
| 17:19.42 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: /etc |
| 17:20.00 | ChrisiPK | yea, well /etc is encrypted |
| 17:20.04 | ChrisiPK | and not yet mounted |
| 17:20.31 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: you can find two or three tutorial at debian-administration , one is how to mount a locked / via ssh |
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| 17:20.52 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: verify you now have versions of libavcodec* packages from d-m; if you installed ffmpeg from d-m it ought to have pulled them in, but.. |
| 17:20.59 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: you should encrypt swap |
| 17:21.16 | ChrisiPK | swap is encrypted |
| 17:21.28 | ChrisiPK | ah that is probably the second encrypted partition |
| 17:21.36 | ChrisiPK | i thought it asked for only one key per encrypted volume |
| 17:21.47 | fxiny | so home swap and / , is boot ext2 ? |
| 17:23.41 | ChrisiPK | boot is ext3 |
| 17:23.42 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: start from here http://madduck.net/docs/cryptdisk/ |
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| 17:23.51 | ChrisiPK | and home does not have its own partition |
| 17:24.58 | foetus | need this tty |
| 17:26.02 | nsadmin | swap is encrypted?? you LIKE slow?? |
| 17:26.50 | fxiny | slow ? i alwasy had very good performances in etch and lenny |
| 17:26.59 | nsadmin | nevermind... as soon as you said home is not separate I'm out of that conversation |
| 17:27.14 | ChrisiPK | well, this is basically what i did already....except the part about using key files |
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| 17:27.48 | ChrisiPK | nsadmin, this is not to be used as a production system...right now, my main objective is to get it running and get an understanding of what i need to do to accomplish that...after that, i will create the partitions i actually need |
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| 17:29.09 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: that's why i pasted madduck url , a small page , two minutes reading and yo are done |
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| 17:29.22 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: if mplayer from d-m can play it, I _think_ vlc should be able to as well |
| 17:30.17 | fxiny | initram+fstab+crypttab , nothing else |
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| 17:31.15 | fxiny | i installed a bpo kernel on it to check UUID , no problems |
| 17:31.56 | fxiny | instead of an ext2-3-4 fs you have an encrypted fs |
| 17:32.11 | fxiny | all tools are on your desk |
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| 17:34.08 | ChrisiPK | fxiny, well, basically only the first two sections of that page are relevant to me...the rest about setting up keyfiles, encrypting swap and using uuids are fancy features i don't want to setup right now...i just want it to boot |
| 17:34.46 | ChrisiPK | and unfortunately the page assumes, that setting up an encrypted partition is not a big deal and doesn't go into any more detail beyond "use the installer" |
| 17:34.50 | ChrisiPK | which is what i did |
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| 17:35.44 | ChrisiPK | and the encryption setup seems to have worked fine |
| 17:35.54 | ChrisiPK | i think, it just doesn't know what filesystem the drive is |
| 17:35.56 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: if you want details go to debian-admin |
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| 17:36.14 | ChrisiPK | hm okay thanks |
| 17:36.34 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: remember : two or three tuts |
| 17:36.50 | ChrisiPK | what is a tut? |
| 17:36.56 | fxiny | tutorial |
| 17:37.04 | ChrisiPK | ah |
| 17:37.16 | ChrisiPK | i've read quite a few |
| 17:37.28 | ChrisiPK | but that problem has obviously not occured to a lot of persons |
| 17:37.34 | ChrisiPK | maybe i'm just missing a simple installer setting |
| 17:37.48 | fxiny | yes , something simple |
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| 17:38.21 | ChrisiPK | i suppose i'll just go through the installation process again |
| 17:38.55 | fxiny | wrong . you should know what the installer does |
| 17:39.10 | ChrisiPK | well, the installer is somewhat buggy |
| 17:39.15 | ChrisiPK | when it comes to encrypted drives |
| 17:39.23 | nsadmin | the installer... installs, right? |
| 17:39.28 | ChrisiPK | so i'm not quite sure how i worked around that last time |
| 17:39.40 | fxiny | you are the first complaining , i heard many ppl happy with the installer |
| 17:39.57 | jelly-home | fxiny: check the bug list for debian-installer package. |
| 17:39.58 | ChrisiPK | well i dunno, maybe i'm just not using it correctly |
| 17:40.07 | jelly-home | first complaining? hardly |
| 17:40.34 | ChrisiPK | but what do you recommend i do, besides trying to install again and double-checking every option? |
| 17:40.54 | jelly-home | ChrisiPK: can we assume you've read the installation guide? |
| 17:41.05 | nsadmin | this is a throwaway installation anyway, right? |
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| 17:41.14 | jelly-home | !ig |
| 17:41.15 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.5) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
| 17:41.22 | ChrisiPK | jelly-home, not entirely, but the parts i assumed to be relevant |
| 17:41.25 | ChrisiPK | nsadmin, for the time being, yes |
| 17:41.59 | fxiny | jelly-home: madduck "Even though the Debian installer can set up encrypted partitions, it is optimised for systems with a single data partition, unless you want to enter multiple passphrases when the system boots." |
| 17:42.00 | ChrisiPK | jelly-home, most of the installation process is pretty self-explanatory...i read the part about partitioning and using dm-crypt |
| 17:42.53 | jelly-home | ChrisiPK: unclear instructions are also a bug of sorts. I suggest filing an installation report bug |
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| 17:43.18 | slava | I want to update a 4.0 box to 5.0, and I get this when doing 'apt-get update': |
| 17:43.19 | slava | W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B NO_PUBKEY 4D270D06F42584E6 |
| 17:43.24 | slava | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 17:43.26 | ChrisiPK | i thought about that, but it's not really a problem in the installation process itself...but rather a problem with the result |
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| 17:43.27 | slava | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 17:43.40 | nsadmin | slava: stop flooding please |
| 17:43.55 | stew | slava: aptitude install debian-archive-keyring && aptitude update |
| 17:43.59 | jelly-home | ChrisiPK: there's also a channel for the installer. |
| 17:44.01 | jelly-home | !d-i |
| 17:44.01 | dpkg | 5.0 lenny is now the "stable" Debian release (Feb 14, 2009). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. See also <errata>, <g-i>. |
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| 17:44.45 | ChrisiPK | jelly-home, thanks...i will try to install again and make sure i double-check the options |
| 17:45.06 | ChrisiPK | i'm starting to think the drive has not been formatted...oddly enough, the installer didn't complain when putting files on it |
| 17:45.25 | nsadmin | the installer formats the partitions |
| 17:45.36 | ChrisiPK | it should, yes |
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| 17:45.46 | ChrisiPK | but i just tried mounting this partition using a ubuntu live cd |
| 17:46.01 | fxiny | there are three things only to edit : /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d fstab and cryptab , i''ve punched , kicked , upgraded my LUKS system all around in different partitions , but i read all docs i could . the only thing i discoverd by myself was the new key on a larger resized home partition |
| 17:46.03 | ChrisiPK | it accepts the key, but it tells me i need to specify the filesystem type |
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| 17:46.47 | nsadmin | that could mean the driver for the fs type is not inserted or not available on that cd |
| 17:46.55 | fxiny | and yes , i panicked when i could not unlock my new home |
| 17:46.57 | ChrisiPK | fs is ext3 |
| 17:47.02 | ChrisiPK | that should definitely be on that cd |
| 17:47.19 | varlon | hi, I need to automatical update our soft on many computers (hundreds and thousands). The soft installed as deb-packege. What a best way to do that? By cron lookup via http some link and call 'apt-get install=newversion' or exists some way via dpkg check repository and install latest version of some one package? |
| 17:47.31 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: ext3 for boot makes no sense , ext2 is enough |
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| 17:47.47 | ChrisiPK | fxiny, right now i'm talking about / |
| 17:48.04 | jordanm | varlon: eh? is it not in an apt repository? |
| 17:48.15 | jelly-home | fxiny: ext2 requires fsck, ext3 doesn't, and all the boot loaders are able from ext3 as well now |
| 17:48.21 | fxiny | yes ? i was booting my LUKS to tell you what conf file edit for the init |
| 17:48.48 | jordanm | varlon: oh, I see. apticron will "aptitude update" and inform you via email when its time to upgrade. cron-apt can be more automated to do likely exactly what you want |
| 17:49.36 | varlon | jordanm, thanks, I will explore cron-apt |
| 17:49.43 | jordanm | varlon: you should never need to specify a specific version, unless for whatever reason, your version numbers descrease instead of increase |
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| 17:50.03 | jordanm | or you jacked up pinning... |
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| 17:50.18 | varlon | we don't need to get email about new version, we need to install new version |
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| 17:50.50 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot -> target=root,source=/dev/ice_number,key=none , then build your initram ,next to that file you have the resume file for an alternate swap |
| 17:50.53 | jordanm | varlon: are you using puppet for this mass of PCs? |
| 17:50.54 | varlon | it's our computers and our soft, but they stay at few countries |
| 17:51.37 | eshat | Is there a way to pretent a webcam device, which will show current desktop content ? |
| 17:52.04 | eshat | So that I can show a screencast with google video chat ? |
| 17:52.07 | Iridos | eshat, there are programs to record your desktop if that is what ou mean |
| 17:52.10 | Iridos | no |
| 17:52.11 | ChrisiPK | fxiny, how am i supposed to access /etc when i cannot mount /? |
| 17:52.24 | fxiny | jelly-home: i want my boot fschecked , i have two just in case , nothing can stop me ;) |
| 17:52.26 | Iridos | eshat, no, wouldn't think so |
| 17:52.36 | eshat | Iridos: well, ok thanks |
| 17:52.59 | varlon | jordanm, I don't understand. We have more then 6 000 computers where we must update our soft without users or local system administrators |
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| 17:53.16 | Iridos | eshat, ekiga lets you choose a picture to display instead of the video stream |
| 17:53.32 | jordanm | varlon: there is an application called "puppet" you should likely be using |
| 17:53.45 | eshat | Iridos: Skype also has the Option to show the desktop instead webcam picture |
| 17:53.51 | Iridos | pulls jordanms strings |
| 17:54.03 | jordanm | does a little dance |
| 17:54.29 | Iridos | oh, at least the ekiga in lenny doesn't offer that |
| 17:54.30 | varlon | jordanm, oh, thanks :-) |
| 17:54.44 | Iridos | skype for linux either |
| 17:54.57 | Iridos | seems to be a huge difference betwen the two |
| 17:55.01 | stew | varlon: puppet will let you remotely manage them. it would let you write a rule like 'ensure yourpackagename=latest' and would use that to tell all the other machines (which need to be running puppet) to make sure to always have the latest version |
| 17:55.03 | jelly-home | is there a way to tell rsync or other copying tool to allocate the blocks for the whole file in advance (in a contiguous space), to evade fragmentation in case two or more processes are writing simultaneously to the same filesystem? |
| 17:55.29 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: with a live cd -> cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/ice home , check: ls /dev/mapper , mount /dev/mapper/home /mount/point |
| 17:56.07 | fxiny | jelly-home: nice interesting question |
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| 17:57.07 | jelly-home | fxiny: that wasn't the answer I hoped for! |
| 17:57.26 | fxiny | jelly-home: you mean some kind of priority ? |
| 17:57.49 | fxiny | one process booking and the other queuing ? |
| 17:58.10 | Iridos | hmm, actually... did you ever catch a virus with wine? |
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| 17:58.43 | zinx | Iridos: it's possible.. though the effectiveness will likely be very reduced on a *nix system |
| 17:59.09 | Iridos | zinx, wine gets full access to /home, which means it could delete files there |
| 17:59.11 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: with two home encrypted partitions : luksOpen /dev/ice home2 ;) |
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| 17:59.24 | ChrisiPK | fxiny, it won't execute mount. it tells me i need to specify the filesystem type and when i do, it says bad fs type |
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| 17:59.27 | jelly-home | fxiny: process 1 knows they're going to write a 1GB-sized file; process 2 wants to write some other 1GB file to the same fs. I want the data written by all the processes to be contiguous |
| 17:59.41 | jelly-home | fxiny: not fragmented |
| 17:59.43 | Iridos | it'd probably run into a "not implremented" quicly if it's not specially made for wine, though... |
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| 18:00.24 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: you mean the installer missed after cryptsetup luksOpen ... mkfs.ext3 /dev/mapper/... ? |
| 18:00.31 | ChrisiPK | maybe |
| 18:00.32 | ChrisiPK | i dunno |
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| 18:00.40 | jelly-home | Iridos: wine gets all the access the user running wine has. |
| 18:00.48 | ChrisiPK | all i can say is, that it seems the device is not formatted |
| 18:00.52 | ChrisiPK | or my drive is defective... |
| 18:02.18 | fxiny | jelly-home: process1 has priority over process2 , so process 2 is not queuing but writes starting from where process1 will end ? sounds logic |
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| 18:03.14 | jelly-home | fxiny: no. they write at the same time. |
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| 18:03.37 | tharkun | What userspace program can i use to interact with usb devices ? |
| 18:03.40 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: # cryptsetup -y -s 256 -c aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 luksFormat /dev/ , then : cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/ then again : mkfs.ext3 /dev/mapper/ and in the end you can mount it mount /dev/mapper/ , mount wants a fs |
| 18:04.25 | fxiny | jelly-home: at the same time but process1 tells process 2 where to write |
| 18:04.40 | jelly-home | fxiny: no, they're completely independent |
| 18:05.15 | ChrisiPK | fxiny, this is basically what the installer should have done |
| 18:05.20 | jelly-home | fxiny: I have two threads, copying from A -> C and from B -> C. I just want the data on C to not be fragmented. |
| 18:05.41 | tharkun | jelly-home: make the first process write a dummy file the size you need to alocate. then update the data as you get it |
| 18:05.52 | jelly-home | tharkun: can rsync do that? |
| 18:05.58 | jelly-home | tharkun: or any other tool? |
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| 18:06.49 | fxiny | ChrisiPK: boot a live and find out |
| 18:07.00 | ChrisiPK | i am on a live system right now |
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| 18:07.09 | ChrisiPK | and it tells me it cannot mount |
| 18:07.10 | Quibus | hi |
| 18:07.16 | Quibus | what's the best program to draw simple electric circuits for high school usage? |
| 18:07.19 | jelly-home | tharkun: it may also use fallocate() syscall, I don't care, I'm asking which existent tool already does that |
| 18:07.21 | urbanmonk | not sure if this is the right place but ... hi ... i have setup a pptp vpn server and I have multiple clients connecting to it ... the clients are set to forward all traffic through them ... the problem is that it looks like on one client (the first one) is actually ably to surf through the vpn ... is there something special I need to do to get this to work? |
| 18:07.23 | tharkun | jelly-home: i am sure using some external logic they would shurely be able to do it. Take for example the dhcpd lease file mechanism to do it |
| 18:07.30 | fxiny | unlock and try to mount , if mount fails there is no fs there |
| 18:07.35 | ChrisiPK | yup |
| 18:07.41 | ChrisiPK | it fails |
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| 18:07.44 | ChrisiPK | unlock works fine, though |
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| 18:08.06 | tharkun | tharkun: using a temporary file then renaming it to the correct name should accomplish that |
| 18:08.20 | tharkun | fxiny: ^^ |
| 18:08.21 | fxiny | oh yes , you can mkfs if you want but of course nothing will be there , an empty fs |
| 18:08.44 | ChrisiPK | yes...that's just what i thought |
| 18:08.46 | fxiny | tharkun: double handing ? |
| 18:08.52 | ChrisiPK | which is why i think i need to run the installer again |
| 18:08.57 | tharkun | jelly-home: using a temporary file then renaming it to the correct name should accomplish that |
| 18:09.11 | tharkun | fxiny: sorry nick mixup on this end |
| 18:09.26 | fxiny | tharkun: i already run rsync twice to avoid files corruption |
| 18:09.45 | fxiny | but the first is a dry-run |
| 18:10.08 | fxiny | no , actually is a real rsync |
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| 18:10.23 | fxiny | but without deleting |
| 18:10.28 | tharkun | fxiny: the update mechanism of dhcpd is quite elegant and in case there is server fubar it will still hold |
| 18:10.37 | tharkun | fxiny: moving is the name of the game :) |
| 18:10.41 | jelly-home | tharkun: that makes no sense |
| 18:11.40 | jelly-home | tharkun: how will using a temporary file prevent fragmentation with two long-running threads? |
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| 18:12.15 | fxiny | tharkun: i read a logid approach in what jelly is about : process1 1G starts writing from d to m , process2 knows he must start from m to whatever |
| 18:12.52 | tharkun | there must be a signal mechanism to avoid overwriting |
| 18:13.13 | fxiny | a priority must be set |
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| 18:13.33 | tharkun | or a mechanism that whenever program a stops writing program b knows it can start writing on the file |
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| 18:14.02 | tharkun | The question is does any of the programs know the actual size of the file? |
| 18:14.22 | fxiny | but i think extfs is already working like that |
| 18:15.05 | fxiny | maybe not : no space left on device ... |
| 18:15.14 | fxiny | is a bull charging |
| 18:15.27 | arjendj | Hello, |
| 18:15.36 | fxiny | time for a better one : btrfs ? |
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| 18:15.56 | fxiny | the folks at freebsd can play with zfs ... |
| 18:16.01 | qbit_ | http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/09/slice-tests-the-kettle-pizza-grill-insert.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+seriouseatsfeaturesvideos+(Serious+Eats)&utm_content=Google+Reader |
| 18:16.05 | qbit_ | mmmm |
| 18:16.12 | fxiny | but zfs get beaten by btrfs |
| 18:16.37 | arjendj | when I try to install apt-get install python-pysqlite2 |
| 18:16.54 | arjendj | Failed to fetch http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-pysqlite2/pyt hon-pysqlite2_2.3.2-2_arm.deb 404 Not Found E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis sing? |
| 18:17.05 | fxiny | maybe giving something to do to Hans Reiser ? why not ? |
| 18:17.08 | qbit_ | woops - wrong channel :| |
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| 18:17.48 | fxiny | a modern fs is needed , too much eyecandy |
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| 18:18.33 | arjendj | how can I fix this |
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| 18:18.50 | stew | judd: versions python-pysqlite2 |
| 18:18.51 | judd | python-pysqlite2 -- etch: 2.3.2-2; lenny: 2.4.1-1; sid: 2.6.0-1; squeeze: 2.6.0-1 |
| 18:19.24 | stew | arjendj: you appear to be using etch, which moved to archive.debian.org and is no longer supported |
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| 18:21.39 | Hopsa | fxiny: Hans is a nice guy. |
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| 18:23.20 | fxiny | Hopsa: he's a brother , i wish some org , i see no firther then debian or gnu will ask him to work again for all of us |
| 18:23.52 | fxiny | ok , i've seen the msg |
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| 18:24.14 | fxiny | i certainly will |
| 18:24.21 | Iridos | jelly-home, I now that - that's what's worrying me! |
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| 18:25.21 | Hopsa | jelly-home: Fragmenting threads :P ? |
| 18:25.41 | Hopsa | must be too old for this hehe |
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| 18:26.11 | nitrogoldfish | anyone have tips on figuring out how much memory a specific process and it's children processes are using? |
| 18:26.27 | arjendj | apt-get install python-pysqlite2 |
| 18:26.31 | arjendj | gives |
| 18:26.44 | stew | arjendj: you appear to be using etch, which moved to archive.debian.org and is no longer supported |
| 18:27.10 | stew | arjendj: you could switch your sources from ftp.de.debian.org to archive.debian.org, but you really should be upgrading to the current debian release (/msg dpkg etch->lenny) |
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| 18:27.48 | arjendj | @stew how do i upgrade |
| 18:27.50 | arjendj | ?? |
| 18:28.04 | stew | dpkg: tell arjendj about etch->lenny |
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| 18:31.56 | arjendj | @stew is it easy to change the source? |
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| 18:32.55 | arjendj | @stew because I dont know of a Dns-323 or a CH3snas can run the new version |
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| 18:33.26 | stew | arjendj: changing the source is a matter of editing /etc/apt/sources.list and running "aptitude update" or "apt-get update" |
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| 18:34.52 | Hopsa | nitrogoldfish: ps -aux -M -T |
| 18:34.53 | arjendj | @steve i dont have the folder /apt/ |
| 18:35.54 | Hopsa | nitrogoldfish: The manpage is fairly comprehensive so adjusting the options for what you want and using sed and awk will calculate the excat figure. |
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| 18:36.16 | Hopsa | exact |
| 18:36.50 | nitrogoldfish | Hopsa: is the %MEM given include virtual memory used, or buffered/cached memory? |
| 18:37.14 | Hopsa | man ps | grep -i thread |
| 18:37.15 | nitrogoldfish | i've read a bit on the manpage, but unfortunately, i'm a little dumb and get confused easily |
| 18:37.48 | ispot | hello, who knows how to set the pppoe, I have foure adsl modems. |
| 18:37.48 | Hopsa | ratio of the processâs resident set size to the physical |
| 18:37.48 | Hopsa | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.29 | Old_Spike0 | Are there any documents explaining why Debian splits so much original packages compared to, say, Slackware or the BSDs? |
| 18:38.54 | Hopsa | Old_Spike0: Bandwidth |
| 18:39.17 | Old_Spike0 | Hopsa, really? |
| 18:39.27 | Hopsa | Old_Spike0: But no, i cant personally see it lowering that mark. |
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| 18:40.53 | Hopsa | Old_Spike0: Id like it if they didnt split so much up (many other do too for no seemingly valid reason and lib mismatches as a result etc) |
| 18:41.19 | bofh80 | hey all, been a while, anyone know any GUI apps that can burn 2 dvd's at the same time? iso > 2 copies at once? thanks . . |
| 18:41.23 | Hopsa | But i guess its the tech of "can do, then lets do". |
| 18:41.40 | jordanm | bofh80: couldn't you just launch the same application twice? |
| 18:41.55 | homie | does flite not speak greek ? |
| 18:41.58 | homie | or math ? |
| 18:41.59 | homie | lol |
| 18:42.17 | Old_Spike0 | Hopsa, that is why I ask. Much as I like the way Debian packaging works, it still makes more sense to me the way pkgsrc works. |
| 18:44.13 | jelly-home | Old_Spike0: would you be thinking the same way if you were making an embedded device with a 256MB disk image |
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| 18:47.09 | Old_Spike0 | jelly-home, yes that seems logical, but I think NetBSD is strongly used in embedded and has no problems. |
| 18:47.09 | Hopsa | jelly-home: Well, cant they run: strip --strip-unneeded BinaryHere on the stuff they dont want debug for ? |
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| 18:48.02 | Hopsa | I laos hope that debian drops apache 1 as the apache foundation describes. |
| 18:48.03 | jelly-home | Hopsa: they already do? |
| 18:48.10 | Hopsa | laos/also |
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| 18:48.30 | Hopsa | jelly-home: Do what ? |
| 18:48.51 | jelly-home | Hopsa: --strip-unneeded |
| 18:49.06 | jelly-home | Hopsa: also, there is no apache 1.x in current debian release |
| 18:49.07 | Hopsa | Thusley removing debug information |
| 18:49.14 | Hopsa | Good! |
| 18:49.24 | Hopsa | Finally!, the joy! :) |
| 18:49.31 | jelly-home | Hopsa: that's why there are extra -dbg packages |
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| 18:50.00 | bofh80 | jordanm, if only, that will just flood the channel and give me buffer underuns . i think i can do it from the cmd line if i look it up. but man, i like my guis :) |
| 18:50.05 | Hopsa | Good, good. |
| 18:50.34 | jelly-home | moral: f you're gonna rant, check your facts first! |
| 18:51.13 | Hopsa | Who is this moral you speak of ? |
| 18:51.32 | jelly-home | he's just that guy, y'know? |
| 18:52.54 | Hopsa | jelly-home: Yes, make it easy for embedded and most likely, perhaps highly skilled people and let all others have trouble when they try to compile thair first programs :) |
| 18:53.09 | jelly-home | you got that right |
| 18:53.10 | Hopsa | thair/their |
| 18:53.14 | Hopsa | Aha |
| 18:53.39 | Hopsa | A sound logic |
| 18:54.52 | Hopsa | Or wait a second! :) |
| 18:55.04 | Hopsa | laughs |
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| 18:56.38 | b0nghitter | is there a way to allow an unstable or testing version of only a single package |
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| 18:57.19 | Hopsa | b0nghitter: Install it by wget'tting it from the unstable repositories |
| 18:57.32 | b0nghitter | ok ty |
| 18:57.33 | stew | b0nghitter: only if the dependencies of the package can be satisfied in stable, which is often not the case. a better solution is to backport it: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 18:58.02 | stew | b0nghitter: in general, what you are asking to do is strongly discouraged |
| 18:58.04 | BlackFate | !apt-pinning | b0nghitter |
| 18:58.08 | Hopsa | b0nghitter: Or enable testing or unstable on the cmdline and apt for the package |
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| 18:58.51 | stew | b0nghitter: this pinning that he's failing to tell you about is not a recommended way of goind what you are asking about, you really want to just backport unless you are sure about what you are doing |
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| 18:59.10 | stew | b0nghitter: also note that there are backports provided for many packages: /msg dpkg backports |
| 18:59.11 | b0nghitter | i just want to update vlc to 0.9.x like the DMM page says |
| 18:59.24 | b0nghitter | im using lenny |
| 18:59.27 | stew | judd: versions vlc |
| 18:59.29 | judd | vlc -- etch: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch3; etch-security: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch3; lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2; lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2.3; sid: 1.1.3-1; squeeze: 1.1.3-1; experimental: 1.1.3-2 |
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| 18:59.56 | stew | judd: depends vlc --release sid |
| 18:59.58 | judd | vlc -- depends: ttf-freefont, vlc-nox (= 1.1.3-1), libaa1 (>= 1.4p5), libc6 (>= 2.8), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1), libfribidi0 (>= 0.19.2), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.6.1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.10), libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1), libtar, libvlccore4 (>= 1.1.0), libx11-6, libx11-xcb1, libxcb-keysyms1 (>= 0.3.6), libxcb- |
| 19:00.00 | judd | randr0 (>= 1.1), libxcb-shm0, libxcb-xv0 (>= 1.2), libxcb1, libxext6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg). |
| 19:00.20 | stew | b0nghitter: you won't be able to satisfy those dependencies in lenny without backporting it |
| 19:00.23 | Hopsa | b0nghitter: good stuff right! :) |
| 19:00.44 | b0nghitter | im seriously thinking of going back to gentoo :[ |
| 19:01.14 | Hopsa | b0nghitter: why ? and why not use atleast both of them ? |
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| 19:01.40 | stew | b0nghitter: "/msg dpkg ssb" ; backporting is typically very easy |
| 19:01.45 | Hopsa | b0nghitter: I like to use as many as i can. A bit short on hw but thats life :) |
| 19:01.49 | b0nghitter | im told not to just update my dedi from lenny to testing etc |
| 19:02.48 | b0nghitter | im reading the dpkg msgs |
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| 19:02.55 | Hopsa | b0nghitter: If you want to test a new vlc, then just compile it. Its very easy to comple as well. Ill help you thru it if you want ? |
| 19:03.07 | qq- | !sunday |
| 19:03.07 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 19:03.27 | b0nghitter | i need mp4v decoding |
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| 19:04.04 | arjendj | Hey |
| 19:04.18 | b0nghitter | ive compiled vlc manually before, but i had to install all the codecs first.. most of which are detected during ./configure |
| 19:04.25 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: what is the system cheifly going to be used for? |
| 19:04.34 | arjendj | How can I change /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:04.39 | Hopsa | b0nghitter: Simply add that codec ? |
| 19:04.50 | Hopsa | b0nghitter: MP4 ? |
| 19:04.57 | arjendj | I have no edit acces on ftp |
| 19:05.37 | b0nghitter | i have libmp4v2 installed |
| 19:05.46 | Hopsa | arjendj: ssh to it |
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| 19:05.50 | stew | arjendj: can you login to the box as root? or as a user with sudo access? |
| 19:05.56 | b0nghitter | vlc gives an error about ffmpeg, DMM page says to update to 0.9.x |
| 19:06.54 | Hopsa | b0nghitter: 0.9 is nice, i use 1.0.6 |
| 19:06.54 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: what is your system going to be used for? |
| 19:07.22 | Hopsa | VLC media player 1.0.6 Goldeneye |
| 19:07.25 | b0nghitter | i use it for alot of things, one of them is streaming videos |
| 19:07.28 | dkr | use the multimedia repo? |
| 19:07.39 | arjendj | Yes i can log in as root by telnet |
| 19:07.46 | b0nghitter | i have the DMM repo in my sources |
| 19:07.58 | b0nghitter | for lenny |
| 19:08.03 | stew | arjendj: "editor /etc/apt/sources.list" in that telnet session |
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| 19:08.20 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: which particular set of "a lot"? It might be easier to yes, upgrade to squeeze, but things _will_ break |
| 19:08.42 | jhutchins_lt | arjendj: I would suggest that you log in as root, enable and test ssh, disable telnet, login via ssh, become root, and edit the list. |
| 19:08.54 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: however you'll gain newer vlc and libavcodec |
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| 19:10.36 | b0nghitter | 64bit main os with ia32 emulation...... apache, mysql, email, adobe flash media server |
| 19:10.43 | arjendj | @steve I get a blank page |
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| 19:11.18 | arjendj | @steve after putting the links deb http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free |
| 19:11.24 | jelly-home | b0nghitter: if it's already in production, you can debootstrap a squeeze chroot and test vlc functionality |
| 19:11.31 | arjendj | @steve how do i save it |
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| 19:13.09 | abrotman | arjendj: who is 'steve'? |
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| 19:14.10 | arjendj | @abrotman mistake I meant stew |
| 19:14.16 | jelly-home | we are all steve. |
| 19:14.26 | abrotman | @arjendj: using @nick is silly |
| 19:14.43 | arjendj | okey |
| 19:15.02 | stew | arjendj: depends on which editor you are using. does it say (among other things) "^X Exit" at the bottom of the screen? |
| 19:15.11 | arjendj | Yes |
| 19:15.27 | stew | arjendj: hold control and hit x to exit. you'll be prompted to save |
| 19:15.28 | arjendj | GNU Nano 2.0.2 |
| 19:15.46 | stew | arjendj: did you replace a ftp.de.debian.org url or just add a new one? |
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| 19:18.21 | arjendj | It added a new file |
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| 19:18.59 | arjendj | Is it posible that the source file is named etch.list |
| 19:19.14 | stew | arjendj: does "fgrep -r ftp.de.debian.org /etc/apt/sources.list*" return any matches? |
| 19:19.54 | arjendj | d |
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| 19:20.44 | arjendj | it gives 2 lines |
| 19:21.33 | stew | arjendj: tell us one of thee lines |
| 19:22.33 | arjendj | d |
| 19:22.57 | arjendj | is ftp.de.debian.org/debian |
| 19:23.12 | stew | that doesn't look like a valid line |
| 19:23.35 | arjendj | im trying to copy the hole line in irc |
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| 19:24.37 | arjendj | i cant copy it |
| 19:25.22 | arjendj | etc apt sources.list.d |
| 19:25.33 | arjendj | etch.list:deb |
| 19:26.00 | arjendj | http://ftp.de.debian.org/debi |
| 19:26.27 | arjendj | space is / |
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| 19:27.19 | Hopsa | arjendj: What chat client are you using ? / USE ANOTHER ONE! :) |
| 19:27.20 | stew | arjendj: rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/etch.list ; aptitude update |
| 19:28.03 | arjendj | its downloading |
| 19:28.40 | urbanmonk | Hi, i've setup a pptp vpn proxy and mutiple clients can connect .. however it looks like only one client can surf through the proxy ... any ideas what might be the problem? |
| 19:29.02 | arjendj | downloading from http://archive.debian.org ;) |
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| 19:29.54 | arjendj | it give There is no public key available for the following id |
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| 19:30.05 | Hopsa | arand |
| 19:30.20 | arjendj | 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
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| 19:32.13 | arjendj | It is working!!!! |
| 19:32.17 | Hopsa | arjendj: Enokey Erand :) |
| 19:32.19 | arjendj | Thanks a lot |
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| 19:34.43 | Hopsa | Pax Vobi-scum :) |
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| 19:36.54 | stew | arjendj: aptitude install debian-archive-keyring ; aptitude update |
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| 19:41.19 | mixu | meh, i wonder what's wrong with my DNS dig @8.8.8.8 >> http://paste.enzotools.org/show/1148/ ; dig @loclahost >> http://paste.enzotools.org/show/1149/ Any ideas? No erros in syslog. checkzone said zonefile is ok. |
| 19:42.32 | mixu | Bind is also listening port 53 aggording to netstat, so no problem there. |
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| 19:49.34 | Fallen_ | abrotman: hi |
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| 19:50.30 | tharkun | mixu: paste your named.conf file |
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| 19:50.53 | state | Hello - I'm trying to set up git, and the first problem I'm running in to is creating a user with no password |
| 19:51.20 | state | Perhaps I had already configured the server to not allow it - but I can't recall how to control this. |
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| 19:52.11 | tharkun | mixu: also pidof named should give you only on pid else you have running several instances therefore having that SERVFAIL msg |
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| 19:53.18 | mixu | tharkun: it gives me only one pid. So no multiple instances. |
| 19:53.44 | tharkun | mixu: good now the named.conf file |
| 19:53.47 | mixu | tharkun: nopasting it atm. |
| 19:53.53 | tharkun | ok |
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| 19:54.48 | state | No ideas? |
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| 19:55.13 | tharkun | !patience |
| 19:55.13 | dpkg | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. |
| 19:55.29 | CoolCold | state: so what the problem is? |
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| 19:56.02 | state | I have a user named git - with a ssh key pair set up, but I can't seem to have the user run with no password |
| 19:56.09 | mixu | tharkun: http://paste.enzotools.org/show/1153/ |
| 19:56.19 | state | and I have this faint memory of disallowing that in the machine configuration: but I don't know where to look |
| 19:56.27 | state | ssh allows login without a password |
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| 19:58.30 | mixu | state: adduser uname after that passwd -f -u uname. |
| 19:58.50 | abrotman | Fallen_: hi? |
| 20:00.30 | CoolCold | doesn't see "-f" key for passwd |
| 20:00.42 | state | mixu: Ok. I'll try that |
| 20:00.56 | mixu | state: Don't. |
| 20:01.02 | state | mixu: It reads like 'fu username' |
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| 20:01.42 | CoolCold | state: do u really wanna user git can be logged in without any authentification? |
| 20:02.03 | tharkun | mixu: your named.conf seems ok, take a trip down at #bind and follow the topic. I am sure they'll pinpoint the problem faster than i can |
| 20:02.31 | mixu | tharkun: i've been there already. :3 |
| 20:02.52 | mixu | state: tbh, user w/o passwd is always a no no. |
| 20:02.58 | tharkun | netstat -pantu shows a line with your local ip ?? |
| 20:03.37 | tharkun | mixu: also iptables -L -n -v shows any rule messing up port 53, or a policy against it ? |
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| 20:03.57 | mixu | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7501/named |
| 20:03.57 | state | CoolCold: It's all run using gitosis - the user wont be allowed ssh in the future |
| 20:04.02 | state | CoolCold: I might just be going about this wrong |
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| 20:04.25 | tharkun | mixu: actually i am lookinf for the line 8.8.8.8:53 |
| 20:04.40 | mixu | tharkun: 8.8.8.8 is just google dns. |
| 20:05.04 | mixu | and also, my iptables is atm empty. |
| 20:05.22 | tharkun | mixu: if you don't have the line it is qute probable that you are not listening in at the ip. and i know that the ip is obfuscated |
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| 20:06.33 | tharkun | mixu: grep listen-on /etc/bind/named.conf.options |
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| 20:09.02 | mixu | listen-on-v6 { any; }; |
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| 20:09.35 | mixu | listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; |
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| 20:10.43 | tharkun | mixu: coment listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; and restart your server |
| 20:11.07 | tharkun | the default i believe is all so you should be ok |
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| 20:11.32 | mixu | Yeah, i thought so too, but i added it at somepoint to see if it helps. |
| 20:11.37 | mixu | But lets try it anyway. |
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| 20:12.17 | mixu | tharkun: can i hug you? |
| 20:12.40 | tharkun | mixu: I'll mail you my favourite bar and you can buy me a beer |
| 20:12.43 | mixu | It's alive mwahhahahhahahaaa! |
| 20:13.02 | mixu | thanks alot tharkun, i've been trying to get this thing work for few hours. :I |
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| 20:13.15 | tuvwx | openbox on a dual-head setup using intel integrated gfx (G35), maximizing a window does not set it to the correct maximized size. however, full screen works correctly |
| 20:13.29 | voicu | how can i start a program as a daemon? i have a startup script that remains active (waiting for the progam it started to end) |
| 20:13.31 | tharkun | mixu: if you want to serv different zones for the internet and for the local users your configuration pragma is view |
| 20:14.02 | tharkun | voicu: depends on the shell but usually & detaches a program from the command shell that invoked it |
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| 20:14.32 | voicu | hm, that works in startup scripts too? |
| 20:14.44 | tharkun | afaik it does |
| 20:15.07 | mixu | tharkun: name your favorite bar, i might just buy you a beer. |
| 20:15.08 | tuvwx | maximizing a window on one screen leaves some horizontal space uncovered, while on the other screen is completely weird: the window is reduced to an extremely thin column at the edge of where a maximized window on the first screen endds |
| 20:15.16 | tharkun | mixu: :) |
| 20:15.52 | qq- | mixu, use 'beer tharkun' |
| 20:16.12 | qq- | !beer mixu |
| 20:16.13 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Gulden Drak for mixu |
| 20:16.24 | jordanm | voicu: typically, you will want to write an init script using start-stop-daemon |
| 20:16.34 | jordanm | voicu: /etc/init.d/skel is there to help |
| 20:16.52 | mixu | qq-: internet beer is no good! |
| 20:17.20 | voicu | jordanm: yeah, i saw the start-stop-daemon in the other scripts but it didn't seem to work |
| 20:17.25 | tharkun | jordanm: itym /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 20:17.33 | voicu | dunno what i did wrong |
| 20:18.05 | jordanm | voicu: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Practices#Debugging |
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| 20:19.12 | voicu | hmm, nice |
| 20:19.35 | qq- | voicu, /msg dpkg ro |
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| 20:20.43 | voicu | ? |
| 20:21.08 | voicu | I know there is a ro channel, so what? |
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| 20:24.56 | voicu | are the .pid files in /var/run made by the OS or by the executables explicitly? |
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| 20:26.30 | tuvwx | how do i fix this window maximization problem? |
| 20:26.33 | joltcan | voicu: the executables |
| 20:26.59 | voicu | joltcan: yeah, i thought so |
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| 20:27.11 | voicu | but i'm too lazy to put that in my program |
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| 20:27.25 | Planet8 | tuvwx, whats the prob? |
| 20:27.27 | voicu | i wonder if start-stop-daemon works without it |
| 20:30.19 | tuvwx | openbox on a dual-head setup using intel integrated gfx (G35), maximizing a window does not set it to the correct maximized size. however, full screen works correctly |
| 20:30.22 | tuvwx | maximizing a window on one screen leaves some horizontal space uncovered, while on the other screen is completely weird: the window is reduced to an extremely thin column at the edge of where a maximized window on the first screen endds |
| 20:30.42 | joltcan | voicu: sure. It can optionally look for a pid file, but it doesn't have to |
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| 20:31.38 | Planet8 | tuvwx, I think you need to go to some openbox specific channel for that. |
| 20:32.25 | voicu | joltcan: hmm, the script still hangs when i start it with start-stop-daemon |
| 20:32.41 | voicu | do i have to make the program do something special? |
| 20:32.58 | voicu | how do i make it run as a daemon |
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| 20:47.56 | datacrusher | how do i add ttf fonts to debian? |
| 20:48.01 | datacrusher | just copy to /fonts folder? |
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| 20:55.12 | unkmar | I have a laptop with 256MB RAM, is it reasonable to run gnome? |
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| 20:55.35 | dondelelcaro | unkmar: it's possible, but probably not reasonable |
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| 20:57.52 | tharkun | unkmar: take a look at lxde gtk based and quite small ram footprint |
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| 20:58.46 | unkmar | wireless is a requirement. I'd like easy access to WEP or WPA/WPA2 networks. wicd isn't friendly for that. Any ideas? |
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| 21:00.44 | tharkun | unkmar: lxde also uses network-manager if that is what you are looking for |
| 21:01.12 | tharkun | my personal experience says that it is a pain to use, but then again ymmv |
| 21:01.42 | unkmar | Last time I looked network-manager was NOT used with lxde but. maybe I overlooked the tray applet. |
| 21:02.27 | thewanderer1 | unkmar: afaik, it can be used with lxde and it's started by default |
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| 21:03.18 | mo6020 | It's hardly a drama to install network-manager and uninstall wicd if you prefer it anyway |
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| 21:11.16 | riot | i'm looking for a smart(!) tool to synchronize two _local_ directories.. |
| 21:11.42 | OpenTokix | riot: between eachother+ |
| 21:11.43 | OpenTokix | ? |
| 21:11.47 | OpenTokix | riot: rsync + cron? |
| 21:12.27 | OpenTokix | riot: If you want it more advanced, you have DRBD http://www.drbd.org/ |
| 21:12.55 | riot | so even for local dirs rsync is the most suitable? |
| 21:13.34 | Planet8 | riot, take a look at unison |
| 21:13.35 | unkmar | rsync does checksumming. |
| 21:13.35 | riot | yeah, i read about drbd.. its somewhat.. uh, too hardcore :) |
| 21:13.59 | riot | i need it synching fast and probably only very seldom |
| 21:14.19 | Planet8 | riot, unison is the right tool |
| 21:14.29 | Planet8 | :) |
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| 21:14.46 | riot | i'm using unison for remote sync, does a rather good job there.. I'll try that for now.. Thanks everyone! |
| 21:14.58 | dabreegster | Does anyone know of an svg editor that will just produce rect's if those're what I'm making and no wacky matrix transforms and paths? |
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| 21:15.36 | simonrvn | inkscape |
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| 21:16.40 | dabreegster | simonrvn: It's been producing matrix transforms for some reason. It might've been because I grouped a text with the rectangle and scaled that in hopes of labeling rectangles. |
| 21:16.55 | dabreegster | simonrvn: But I'm working from importing a stripped-down svg now, I'll see if it behaves |
| 21:17.03 | simonrvn | you can remove it. go in the xml editor |
| 21:17.25 | riot | then the scaling will probably be gone, not? |
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| 21:17.58 | simonrvn | set the dimension, scaling won't matter then ;) |
| 21:18.13 | unkmar | dabreegster: have you looked at the svg format? are you a programmer at all? you could probably look at the raw files and figure out how to do some rectangles by hand or write your own simple program. |
| 21:18.14 | dabreegster | I'll get a clean file working, then make sure it doesnt add scaling commands |
| 21:18.48 | dabreegster | unkmar: I could write my own tool to move/scale and label rectangles in my own format, but that seems like reinventing a wheel |
| 21:18.53 | simonrvn | loves svg |
| 21:19.13 | riot | loves inkscape. |
| 21:19.24 | dabreegster | unkmar: and recreating coordinates from paths and scaled objects is a hack to me |
| 21:19.38 | unkmar | I tend to reinvent alot because it is usually quicker and easier than FINDING an existing tool to do exactly what I want. |
| 21:19.38 | simonrvn | too |
| 21:21.18 | riot | uh, problem is: unison will probably take about two weeks indexing all my directories... No good. |
| 21:22.18 | riot | hmhm... i don't actually need checksumming :/ |
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| 21:31.43 | dabreegster | simonrvn: huzzah, inkscape is behaving now. it must've been grouping text labels with rectangles and scaling those that caused the issue. |
| 21:32.29 | simonrvn | ah yeh |
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| 21:38.34 | pke_castillo | hello guys! |
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| 21:41.41 | pke_castillo | d |
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| 21:44.57 | pke_castillo | some know search a driver for a server with support only redhat or suse, but I only need for lenny... :( |
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| 21:46.09 | dondelelcaro | pke_castillo: driver for what? |
| 21:46.45 | pke_castillo | ~dondelelcaro~ for network device.. |
| 21:46.58 | pke_castillo | ~dondelelcaro~ my server is: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz&ServiceTag=FF99FN1&SystemID=pwe_r810&os=WS8R2&osl=en&catid=&impid= |
| 21:47.18 | pke_castillo | is dell server. |
| 21:47.52 | pke_castillo | but is very new :( |
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| 21:49.09 | dondelelcaro | !kmuto |
| 21:49.10 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
| 21:49.14 | dondelelcaro | pke_castillo: see above |
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| 21:51.46 | pke_castillo | ~dpkg~ wow, thanks, at the moment start reading!... :) |
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| 22:09.06 | javagamer | How hard is it to be a package maintainer? |
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| 22:11.55 | dondelelcaro | javagamer: not too hard, but it depends greatly on the package |
| 22:12.31 | javagamer | dondelelcaro: The wine packages seem quite behind and I think I might be up to the task of maintaining them |
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| 22:20.25 | Planet8 | javagamer, from my experience getting your package accepted (meaning finding someone who can help you submit your package) is harder than dealing with the package itself ;) |
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| 22:23.03 | themill | javagamer: the wine and wine-unstable packages have some quite difficult bugs to solve in new versions and that's what is stopping them from being updated. Check their bug pages to see how you can help. |
| 22:24.06 | javagamer | themill: Oh! I didn't realize there were bugs, woops. Thanks for letting me know, I'll go check on it |
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| 22:35.13 | philips | I am trying to bridge an ethernet network and it works fine for the default vlan but the other vlans don't seem to work. Is that expected? |
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| 22:45.41 | fas3r | can i execute a script when an user connect with ssh ( on the prompt) ... ? |
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| 22:47.46 | vsmatck | fas3r: You could put an entry in the .bashrc of the user. |
| 22:47.48 | Igneous | fas3r: there are couple of ways to do that, but you'll probably need to script up an intermediary log watcher to execute the script |
| 22:48.19 | Igneous | assumed he meant as root |
| 22:48.32 | fas3r | Igneous: for all users |
| 22:48.35 | fas3r | include root |
| 22:48.37 | tharkun | fas3r: What do you want to acomplish ? |
| 22:48.37 | Igneous | right |
| 22:48.59 | bzrk | fas3r: have a look at pam_script |
| 22:49.00 | vsmatck | fas3r: For what purpose? Do you need to display information to all users upon logon? |
| 22:49.01 | Igneous | fas3r: monitor your auth.log for ssh logins |
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| 22:49.34 | bzrk | fas3r: http://linux.die.net/man/5/pam_script |
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| 22:50.23 | fas3r | tharkun: well if you prefer i develop an application on my iphone to authenticate user based on a timestamp for know. and i want to use it after the authentification on ssh |
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| 22:50.57 | dserban | hi |
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| 22:51.30 | dserban | seems that I hosed my grub install, anyone remember what mounts I have to make to allow the chroot environment to resolve dns? |
| 22:51.47 | fas3r | for now* |
| 22:51.54 | dserban | mount --bind /dev ? something like that? and proc I think? |
| 22:52.07 | bzrk | dserban: and /sys |
| 22:52.11 | fas3r | bzrk: ok thank i go to check |
| 22:52.21 | bzrk | fas3r: yw |
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| 22:53.42 | dserban | bzrk: I forget how, is it mount --bind /dev /chroot/dev, mount -t proc /proc /chroot/proc, mount -t sys /sys /chroot/sys ?? |
| 22:54.44 | tharkun | fas3r: man sshd_config| less -S '+/ForceCommand' |
| 22:55.35 | bzrk | dserban: yes it is |
| 22:55.45 | bzrk | original dir goes first |
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| 22:58.26 | fas3r | thank tharkun |
| 22:58.52 | tharkun | np |
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| 22:59.19 | bzrk | fas3r: do you want to be able to let the user that logs in use the shell like he wants? |
| 22:59.44 | fas3r | bzrk: nop |
| 22:59.56 | bzrk | kk |
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| 23:00.26 | fas3r | why ? |
| 23:00.45 | bzrk | because forcecommand limits the login to the specified command |
| 23:00.52 | bzrk | you cant do anything else then |
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| 23:01.03 | fas3r | oki so its good for my case no ? |
| 23:01.17 | bzrk | if you dont need ssh for anything else probably yes |
| 23:01.51 | bzrk | if you run your tool from a script you can directly supply the command as well |
| 23:02.08 | bzrk | like ssh user@box "/command/to/run" |
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| 23:04.26 | fas3r | bzrk: it's mostly from putty application |
| 23:04.40 | fas3r | bzrk: not ssh command |
| 23:05.37 | bzrk | hmm i think putty accepts commands as well, not sure though on how to supply them |
| 23:06.25 | tharkun | bzrk: Different programs will accept different ways of commands. Using server side programming seems the reasonable solution in this case |
| 23:06.47 | bzrk | tharkun: thats why i gave him the pam_script link |
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| 23:06.58 | bzrk | that will do exactly what he asked for |
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| 23:07.43 | bzrk | but if he just wants to execute a command from a script its overkill |
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| 23:11.59 | fas3r | bzrk: well thank tharkun and bzrk |
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| 23:12.19 | bzrk | fas3r: np |
| 23:12.28 | Raptors | http://www.macrumors.com/2010/09/03/ios-passes-linux-to-become-third-most-popular-internet-browsing-platform/ |
| 23:12.31 | Raptors | -_- |
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| 23:20.48 | PARLIAMENT | heyyy Wheezy |
| 23:20.53 | PARLIAMENT | :o |
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| 23:23.34 | MrMoMo | I want to setup a DHCP server where it only serves a specific MAC address a specific IP ... and also the ability for whenever they type anything into a web browser it redirects to my local webserver ... i am searching google but i don't know the correct servers i am looking for |
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| 23:28.35 | ^Willie^ | hmm i have an atheros based wifi card tested ath5 and madwifi but with both same results card will go up but no scan results .. |
| 23:28.36 | AdmV0rl0n | MrMoMo: if you have a DHCP with an address range of 1 address and a reservation, that would work for you. And you would sex a proxy for all their webbrowsing via a proxy/squid or similar. |
| 23:28.57 | MrMoMo | AdmV0rl0n, how do you sex a proxy? |
| 23:29.02 | ^Willie^ | wifi0: Atheros AR2413 chip found (MAC 7.8, PHY 2112A 4.5, Radio 5.6) |
| 23:29.20 | ^Willie^ | 2.6.26 kernel |
| 23:29.22 | AdmV0rl0n | MrMoMo: dunno. |
| 23:29.37 | AdmV0rl0n | read up on DHCP and on Squid I suggest. |
| 23:29.54 | MrMoMo | AdmV0rl0n, ... thats not the right term though is it? sex a proxy? |
| 23:30.15 | AdmV0rl0n | *set* |
| 23:30.24 | MrMoMo | ;) |
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| 23:36.59 | fas3r | tharkun, in fact in i dont want use just one command |
| 23:38.30 | fas3r | its when the user connect on the server after the authentification he get : "hello write the password now:" not the $ .. |
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| 23:39.34 | p3rror | hello |
| 23:39.44 | p3rror | i'm installing Livestation and i get an error |
| 23:39.48 | p3rror | System Does Not Support a System Tray |
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| 23:40.14 | p3rror | after i've installed tray without success |
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| 23:48.48 | MrFrood | p3rror: I had to reboot before Livestation would work (weird I know) |
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| 23:49.10 | p3rror | MrFrood, ok i'll give it a try |
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| 23:50.07 | MrFrood | p3rror: are you using the deb? |
| 23:50.50 | p3rror | the last version of Livestation is 3.2 and it's packaged but are not supported by my machine |
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| 23:51.17 | p3rror | so i run 3.1 and it is a self extract file |
| 23:52.15 | MrFrood | I'm using the latest version on a 1.5Ghz amd k6 so I hate to think what your machine is |
| 23:53.54 | MrFrood | that said I had 3.1 working on a 1Ghz K6 |
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| 23:59.13 | p3rror | MrFrood, your thought about rebooting target make me nervous |
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| 23:59.49 | nsadmin | why? are you afraid the machine won't boot? |
| 23:59.56 | mmnicolas | im having a memory blank here, is there a elif - file, or can it be like: if-then-elif-fi |