| 00:00.35 | nsadmin | mmnicolas: more specifics, more background |
| 00:00.46 | mmnicolas | not if-then-elif-file-fi, right, now that im asking it it sounds stupid |
| 00:00.58 | mmnicolas | nsadmin: sorry, just basic conditions in bash |
| 00:01.13 | nsadmin | oh, -bash-... |
| 00:01.23 | nsadmin | do you have the bash info pages installed? |
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| 00:01.32 | mmnicolas | ok, why is all that hate about bash these days ? :P |
| 00:01.34 | MrFrood | I installed the 3.2 deb, livestation did not work & I ran out of time so I did not remove it. Next day (after a reboot) I thought I'd give it one more try before I removed and tried 3.1 and much to my surprise it worked. |
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| 00:01.47 | p3rror | nsadmin, simply i don't like that and i don't think that is a good process |
| 00:02.05 | p3rror | halt machine and make systray working |
| 00:02.10 | nsadmin | mmnicolas: none in particular. you didn't tell what of about 10,000 languages you were using |
| 00:02.41 | MrFrood | If I remember right with 3.1 you have install the live555 libs in addition to the livestation bin file? |
| 00:02.43 | nsadmin | p3rror: is the machine a server? |
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| 00:02.55 | mmnicolas | nsadmin: yea, sorry about that |
| 00:03.22 | nsadmin | the bash info pages are probably in non-free |
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| 00:03.37 | p3rror | nsadmin, it is a laptop and i rebooted a lot today |
| 00:04.24 | mmnicolas | isnt an info page the same as the man page ? |
| 00:04.28 | MrFrood | p3rror: you do have a systray? |
| 00:05.22 | p3rror | i need it to run Livestation |
| 00:06.07 | MrFrood | p3rror: well that's the error (I've never tried it without one) |
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| 00:06.29 | nsadmin | no, not in structure and not in content |
| 00:07.08 | p3rror | what make tray system running complicated as is it ? |
| 00:07.10 | riot | how do i change when tiger and rkhunter et al are started? They always annoy me at night when i'm working |
| 00:08.04 | nsadmin | but it is also in the man pages. just seems to me the info pages are easier to navigate... other than that, the info pages are more often maintained |
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| 00:09.58 | MrFrood | p3rror: what WM are you using? |
| 00:11.40 | p3rror | MrFrood, i run gnome desktop |
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| 00:12.34 | MrFrood | Good, gnome comes with a systray - so that is not the issue |
| 00:13.06 | mmnicolas | nsadmin: really, im surprised to hear that, been using a gnu desktop for a decade and i never used info page, i don't even have the package installed |
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| 00:14.02 | nsadmin | should say it right on the man page |
| 00:14.03 | mmnicolas | ah ok, got it |
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| 00:15.11 | MrFrood | p3rror: you ave installed the dependancies that Livestation needs (I think they are listed in the readme file) |
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| 00:17.45 | p3rror | MrFrood, Livestation installed correctly but i'll check the readme too |
| 00:17.52 | Siegfried | Hi, how can i change the color depth of X in debian squeeze (no more xorg.conf) ? |
| 00:18.04 | mmnicolas | so infopage has its own super overkill viewer with gazillions of feature instead of just using less or more like man |
| 00:19.37 | mmnicolas | isnt that a disguised vi ? |
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| 00:21.42 | nsadmin | if you want the more uptodate, maintained docs, they're in the info pages, if you don't care, use either. complaints like that one to /dev/null |
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| 00:22.03 | mmnicolas | nsadmin: it wasnt a complaint |
| 00:22.26 | nsadmin | semantics... |
| 00:22.27 | mmnicolas | being super overkill is a quality |
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| 00:23.26 | nsadmin | you wouldn't have broght it up in the manner you did without there being an undertone of negativity. and I'm not willing to be an audience to it |
| 00:23.37 | eide | I just installed squeeze with the alpha1 installer, and chose "encrypted LVM". Does this option encrypt the swap partition with a random key (or at all), or is this something I have to do myself? |
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| 00:24.24 | plugd | nsadmin: stop being so precious, s/he wasn't complaining |
| 00:24.27 | mmnicolas | sorry i may express myself poorly sometimes, i am not that good in english |
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| 00:25.00 | nsadmin | mmnicolas: believe me, you're perfectly understood |
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| 00:26.29 | nsadmin | the bottom line: use what you want, if it's useful, good, if not, find something else that is |
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| 00:27.14 | Siegfried | so how can i change the color depth from 24bit to 16? |
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| 00:28.06 | nsadmin | that's probably a setting in the x server config |
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| 00:28.19 | MrFrood | p3rror: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D48%26t%3D278087%26start%3D0&ei=yJGBTJ6vEcfm4gbyjsGHBg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCkQ7gEwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlivestation%2Blinux%2B%2522System%2BDoes%2BNot%2BSupport%2Ba%2BSystem%2BTray%2522%26hl%3Den |
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| 00:28.36 | Siegfried | xorg.conf is no more, tried to create one and it seems to be ignored |
| 00:28.43 | mmnicolas | you convinced me a few lines ago, the extra features doesnt get in the way so why not switch if theres only benefits |
| 00:28.46 | Siegfried | maybe it has to do with my intel graphic crd |
| 00:30.09 | Siegfried | i commented out the 24 bit depth :/ |
| 00:30.15 | nsadmin | the info reader isn't that big (certainly not as big as vi); also there are ways other than the standalone info reader to view it, one example of which is to convert it to html |
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| 00:30.17 | Siegfried | ops i comment * |
| 00:30.32 | eide | Siegfried: I don't think it's ignored, I accidentally created a XF86Config file using nvidia-settings in testing and that worked fine |
| 00:30.52 | Siegfried | hmm maybe i have to set defaultdepth then |
| 00:31.59 | mmnicolas | Siegfried: it really should be set properly without a xorg.conf, i had a friend who had a monitor with corrupted EDID that prevented xorg from determining proper modelines |
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| 00:32.35 | mmnicolas | you should pastebin your Xorg.0.log |
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| 00:37.15 | tharkun | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.31 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there any way to rip my CD collection to AAC and transfer to my iPod? Whether it be from the official repo or debian-multimedia or other sources? |
| 00:39.55 | jordanm | stew: ping |
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| 00:46.27 | tharkun | LinuxGuy2009: no, AAC is propietary for mac and afaik there is no tool on the internet besides itunes that does it |
| 00:46.36 | Empis | hello, how do i activate theese volumes (they are in NTFS) http://paste.debian.net/87678/ in my debian? i cant access them via debian or samba-client |
| 00:47.00 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok so nevermind that last question I figured that out. My other question is besides a fresh base install, is there any way to use aptitude or other tool to tell the system to strip itself down to the base system so I can start fresh? |
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| 00:47.36 | LinuxGuy2009 | tharkun: No actually thats not true, its available. |
| 00:47.37 | jordanm | stew: nvm, I shouldn't bother you specifically. was going to re-discuss a previously talked about topic, but I moved it to -devel. |
| 00:47.38 | tharkun | LinuxGuy2009: use netinst sans conection it will be way faster than trying to strip things back |
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| 00:48.03 | tharkun | LinuxGuy2009: enlighten me on that subject |
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| 00:48.09 | LinuxGuy2009 | NM Ill google it. |
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| 00:49.21 | tharkun | Empis: download the ntfs-3g module and mount accordingly |
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| 00:50.57 | Empis | tharkun: how to mount? |
| 00:52.46 | tharkun | Empis: man mount should give you the full documentation on your language. Far easier to understand that an irc explanation |
| 00:53.08 | Empis | oke doke, thx |
| 00:53.14 | tharkun | np |
| 00:55.24 | qq- | !ntfs-3g |
| 00:55.25 | dpkg | [ntfs-3g] a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance, packaged for Debian. Usage examples: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/#usage . Ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
| 00:55.53 | qq- | Empis, /msg dpkg user accessible ntfs |
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| 01:00.00 | bint | if i rent a didicated server - they come with a OS i chose - in this case Debian 5.0... are this boxes usually preinstalled with just one partition or are there some partitions on it? |
| 01:00.08 | bint | the hdd will be 250 gb's |
| 01:01.27 | tharkun | bint: Wouldn't your provider have the answer to that ? |
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| 01:01.41 | bint | if i'd email them yes |
| 01:01.56 | bint | but i thought maybe there's like a usual thing and a lot of you guys rent boxes like that |
| 01:02.00 | bint | i was just wondering |
| 01:02.44 | bint | the question i have is more: is it a security risk to have everything on just 1 partiton |
| 01:03.00 | bint | and is it possible to make another partition. once debian is installed |
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| 01:03.10 | bint | or do i have to make all of em while installing debian |
| 01:05.10 | DDRP | is going to shortly build all of historical projects as Debian .debs |
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| 01:07.16 | tharkun | bint: you can move stuff around, but it is better done when installing debian. Since there is no data to be lost. As for security sake, well one partition can get corrupted and you still have the others. |
| 01:08.04 | mintai | anyone hear anything about mint debian release lately? |
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| 01:09.22 | tharkun | mintai: do you want the usual !debian flame ? |
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| 01:18.36 | martianlobster | how do I tell qemu to emulate an x86_64 cpu? |
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| 01:21.14 | I_Died_Once | death@w3502$ sudo ##man woman |
| 01:21.24 | I_Died_Once | (document is empty) |
| 01:21.59 | martianlobster | I see, it is a different comand |
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| 01:22.09 | martianlobster | qemu-x86_64 |
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| 01:26.24 | MrMoMo | how do i review the syslog? |
| 01:26.47 | subimage | hi gang...i'm trying to pass a PCI compliance scan running debian lenny with the latest updates. it seems to be failing because of older versions of php and openssl. i was wondering if the lenny stuff is backported, or if there's a source i can add for newer versions of these packages? |
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| 01:26.56 | cast | MrMoMo: you go and read it |
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| 01:28.38 | tharkun | MrMoMo: less -S /var/log/syslog |
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| 01:29.55 | cast | is less in all debian installs now? |
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| 01:31.13 | tharkun | cast: I remember using it since potatoe at least |
| 01:31.33 | rom | subimage: isn't http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php what your looking for? |
| 01:31.36 | cast | i've historically had to install it |
| 01:31.41 | rom | you're* |
| 01:32.05 | cast | but in the last few years the base install of debian has ballooned in size |
| 01:32.21 | subimage | rom: not sure man |
| 01:32.42 | subimage | right now my /etc/apt/sources.list is mostly lenny/updates ...should i be using stable/updates instead? |
| 01:32.51 | tharkun | cast: Damn it i can't recall if i installed it originaly or it came with the base install :| |
| 01:32.59 | rom | you need newer versions of things? |
| 01:33.07 | subimage | rom: openssl and php it appears. |
| 01:33.29 | rom | subimage: take a look here and see if backports has the ones you need http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=packages |
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| 01:33.57 | subimage | nah i dont see it :/ |
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| 01:35.56 | subimage | i think stable/updates has the openssl version i want, as noted here: http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Aug/402 |
| 01:36.05 | subimage | what would be the outcome if i update my apt sources from lenny to stable? |
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| 01:37.06 | netbook_ | hello |
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| 01:38.01 | cantido | subimage: nothing, lenny is stable |
| 01:38.19 | cantido | subimage: add the security repo to your sources |
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| 01:39.15 | subimage | cantido: my current sources looks like this > http://pastie.org/private/ajw5touubgt9gyysmwwa ...add it to the end? |
| 01:39.38 | yardleydobon | If you want to stay in lenny don't change it to stable, because as soon as squeeze becomes the new stable you'll get updated. |
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| 01:40.07 | cantido | subimage: you have the security resource already.. are you sure the version you want is actually out? |
| 01:40.26 | subimage | yardleydobon: ok thanks for that...thats what i assumed but wanted to be sure |
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| 01:40.55 | subimage | cantido: aha...i got it |
| 01:41.04 | subimage | guess i have to file a dispute with this PCI security scan company |
| 01:41.06 | subimage | how annoying |
| 01:41.25 | cantido | that PCI stuff is annoying.. |
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| 01:41.31 | subimage | dude you dont even know |
| 01:41.34 | subimage | :( |
| 01:41.47 | cantido | means people actually have to deal with the cupboard full of customers card details and shit |
| 01:42.17 | subimage | i dont even store card #'s on any of my web apps. i just pass them through to authorize.net CIM and store a unique reference id |
| 01:42.31 | subimage | and still they make me jump through these hoops |
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| 01:54.07 | Firefishe | When using gpg to create a standard RSA key pair, I get this message on the terminal: http://www.pastebin.ca/1932121 - nothing appears to happen for a *very long time*. I end up doing a CTRL-C to stop the process. |
| 01:54.57 | cast | Firefishe: do stuff then |
| 01:55.06 | cast | Firefishe: /dev/random isn't getting any event inputs |
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| 01:56.13 | Firefishe | cast: I do "do stuff" ;-) use the mouse, watch a video, etc. It takes forever, and this is something I wouldn't think a modern system would have a problem with. |
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| 01:57.05 | Firefishe | cast: centrino 2, 4gb RAM, etc. |
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| 01:59.15 | tharkun | Firefishe: how long is the RSA key pair you are building ? |
| 01:59.20 | valbaca | the main thing would be typing and mouse movements. I would open gedit and make a random symphony on the keyboard |
| 01:59.41 | Firefishe | tharkun: 4096, but I've had no problems with this size of key in the past with older systems than this one. |
| 02:00.04 | Firefishe | tharkun: It's curious to me why the moving of the mouse doesn't just let it do it. |
| 02:00.13 | tharkun | Firefishe: do as valbaca pointed out. doing some torrent download sometims helps |
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| 02:00.58 | Firefishe | tharkun: I don't have a need for torrents. I don't use them. |
| 02:01.33 | Firefishe | Is there some type of randomizer daemon I can have running in the background that would feed /dev/ramdom bytes? |
| 02:02.18 | valbaca | Firefishe, man 4 random |
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| 02:03.17 | Firefishe | valbaca: thanks |
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| 02:07.00 | Firefishe | valbaca: I read through it a bit. /dev/random and /dev/urandom are already there. |
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| 02:07.14 | Firefishe | valbaca: My system just doesn't seem to be that noisy ;) |
| 02:08.30 | valbaca | yeah, noise is hard to find when you want it |
| 02:09.27 | valbaca | Things like watching online videos aren't likely to give much entropy since they usually stay in ram. mashing keyboard and throwing the mouse around (try spelling your name) |
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| 02:09.47 | peterrooney | 4 is random. |
| 02:11.52 | mmnicolas | in grub legacy is the text at the prompt "Use arrow keys to select which entry is highlighted etc" hardcoded ? |
| 02:12.12 | mmnicolas | can't find any grub related conf containing it |
| 02:13.38 | valbaca | peterrooney is exactly right, it's been proven |
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| 02:20.16 | Firefishe | valbaca: Got the issues sorted out. Network traffic did it. Just pinged yahoo a few times. ;) |
| 02:21.43 | Firefishe | thanks :) |
| 02:24.04 | valbaca | awesome. good to know a method for the future |
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| 02:25.01 | valbaca | btw, ping microsoft.com they need the traffic lol |
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| 02:57.30 | johnny1 | hello... |
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| 02:58.24 | johnny1 | is there way to run a fully system command line environment inside a minimum system by mounting remotely or such a thing ? |
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| 03:02.47 | qq- | !ask |
| 03:02.47 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 03:04.01 | johnny1 | is there way to run a fully system command line environment inside a minimum system by mounting remotely or such a thing ? |
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| 03:04.10 | johnny1 | something like chroot |
| 03:04.20 | qq- | yes |
| 03:04.53 | johnny1 | but through network |
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| 03:06.06 | johnny1 | is it possible ? |
| 03:06.13 | unkmar | netbooting sure. |
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| 03:11.04 | johnny1 | i am trying to have a debian environment on busybox router! |
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| 03:13.43 | mikeliss | I'm using a livecd to try to move my / and /boot partitions from one drive to another...anybody have any experience with that? |
| 03:13.58 | mikeliss | I have two 40GB drives, and I just want to copy from one to the other. |
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| 03:15.28 | ShapeShifter499 | can someone tell me why I can't connect to two or more different irc servers in xchat |
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| 03:15.38 | lolcat | Hello |
| 03:15.47 | lolcat | Can I run a webserver, on my local network and route the traffic through my vps? |
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| 03:21.52 | nsadmin | lolcat: probably. sounds like a lot of work to (1) learn how and (2) set it up |
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| 03:22.05 | qq- | ShapeShifter499, see http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-SVg5Bc9J.png , and check in Connecting 'Auto connect to this network at start up' , do that to all networks, sure add to Edit your channels ' |
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| 03:24.40 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- ohh so I setup all the servers I want like I did with the first one? and it will auto connect |
| 03:25.24 | qq- | it should , yes |
| 03:25.37 | ShapeShifter499 | ohh did not know that |
| 03:25.47 | ShapeShifter499 | haven't used xchat before |
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| 03:32.57 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- its not working D= |
| 03:33.25 | qq- | why ? |
| 03:34.09 | ShapeShifter499 | idk I edited the severs I wanted with my passwords and channels but when I connected it only connected to the highlighted server |
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| 03:34.13 | yardleydobon | my sound just crashed while watching a video. is there a way to fix this without rebooting? |
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| 03:35.21 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- now what? :/ |
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| 03:44.54 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- http://pastebin.com/Xk0udwEZ |
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| 03:46.15 | stunts513 | could anyone in here tell me how to configure debian to use the basic vesa driver instead of the one ment for it? that would work right, caused vesa is like generic gfx card driver? |
| 03:47.37 | cast | stunts513: man xorg.conf |
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| 03:48.21 | stunts513 | can i suppose that ubuntu is going to say the same as debian, cause my debian computer is ancient tech and is booted in win server 2003 right now and will take ages to reboot... |
| 03:48.55 | un214 | stunts513: I'd stay away from ubuntu if not already using it |
| 03:49.04 | stunts513 | my other computer runs it |
| 03:49.16 | stunts513 | i tryed to install it on that ancient computer |
| 03:49.21 | stunts513 | but no versions of it will install |
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| 03:49.26 | stunts513 | everytime it tries to load |
| 03:49.32 | qq- | ShapeShifter499, uname -r , says ? |
| 03:49.58 | stunts513 | the screen just starts flickering like its outa range and itl try to load i think, but i never hear the sound it makes when it logs in |
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| 03:50.03 | MrFrood | stunts513: whats the processor & memory of youe 'ancient' |
| 03:50.26 | stunts513 | pentium II 333MHz 128mb ram |
| 03:50.31 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- 2.6.35-trunk-amd64 |
| 03:51.00 | qq- | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.07 | qq- | ShapeShifter499, sid ? |
| 03:52.05 | MrFrood | stunts513: debian should run fine, you will probally want to do a basiic install (no X, no DE) and then manually install a light weight WM |
| 03:52.16 | stunts513 | i have debian installed |
| 03:52.21 | stunts513 | runs gnome |
| 03:52.34 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- well its a mixed system, and I've got apt pinning set to the latest kernel |
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| 03:52.45 | MrFrood | WOW, that must be slow |
| 03:52.53 | qq- | ShapeShifter499, try to debug xchat , it works well in squeeze |
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| 03:53.22 | stunts513 | yes it is |
| 03:53.31 | MrFrood | try something that is lighter if you want a bit of speed |
| 03:53.42 | stunts513 | its alot faster on debian than windows |
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| 03:54.17 | stunts513 | brb |
| 03:54.18 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- um how? |
| 03:54.40 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- running it from the terminal? |
| 03:55.05 | qq- | , versions xchat |
| 03:55.08 | judd | xchat -- etch: 2.6.8-0.3; lenny: 2.8.6-2.1; sid: 2.8.8-1; squeeze: 2.8.8-1; experimental: 2.8.8-2 |
| 03:55.44 | MrFrood | gnome is probally a bit of overkill, if you don;t want to mess around try the lxde DE, personally I'd mess around and go even more light-weight |
| 03:55.48 | qq- | ShapeShifter499, well it the same in sid/ squeeze , so its just a problem of config |
| 03:56.03 | un214 | how about lxde instead? |
| 03:56.42 | qq- | s/ it it is |
| 03:56.46 | qq- | s/ it / it is |
| 03:57.12 | ShapeShifter499 | um |
| 03:58.33 | qq- | play whit config till find the good one |
| 03:59.02 | qq- | s/ whit / with |
| 04:00.03 | ShapeShifter499 | um what is this s/ whit / with |
| 04:00.23 | ShapeShifter499 | I'm still linux noobie |
| 04:00.27 | ShapeShifter499 | *still a |
| 04:00.40 | qq- | was a correction for my faults , sorry |
| 04:00.50 | ShapeShifter499 | ohhhhhh |
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| 04:00.57 | ShapeShifter499 | *facepalm* |
| 04:02.16 | qq- | net_auto_reconnect = 1 < get this from last command i told ? |
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| 04:02.46 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- the config file is where? |
| 04:03.04 | qq- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:03.36 | noo | Hello. I'm asking this here because nobody seems to be active in the screen-channel. So my question is: I'm trying to setup a proper .screenrc and I'm trying to use the aclchg command in there, but somehow all aclchg commands get ignored even though the commands itself are correct. Does anybody know why? Multiuser is activated |
| 04:04.01 | qq- | ShapeShifter499, is a hidden dir in your /home/$User |
| 04:04.44 | ShapeShifter499 | net_auto_reconnect = 1 net_auto_reconnectonfail = 0 |
| 04:04.51 | qq- | same here |
| 04:05.06 | ShapeShifter499 | so that looks right hmmm idk what is wrong |
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| 04:24.43 | stunts513 | ok |
| 04:24.45 | stunts513 | im back |
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| 04:28.52 | aaroninfidel | Hi there, I'm having trouble setting up apache2 with virtual hosts is anyone in the mood to help me? :) |
| 04:29.50 | qq- | !vhosts |
| 04:29.50 | dpkg | i guess vhosts is covered in detail in the apache documentation, see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/ |
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| 04:34.45 | ShapeShifter499 | qq- still there? I fixed it, I feel like such an idiot, I didn't tick the option to auto connect at start lmao |
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| 04:36.06 | qq- | cool |
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| 04:38.53 | aaroninfidel | qq-: I asked for someone to help me set it up, not give me docs D; |
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| 04:39.43 | qq- | aaroninfidel, no worries, just wait someone else |
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| 04:40.08 | cahoot | hire a consultsnt? |
| 04:40.14 | qq- | who will read the docs |
| 04:40.37 | qq- | !rtfm |
| 04:40.38 | dpkg | rtfm is probably Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] |
| 04:41.11 | rafuch0 | i install openoficce and when i run it .... i has this weird language interface how can change the language of the interface i install a lang package from the ooffice site and when i go to the options interface language i change it and close the program i open it again and is the same language is like Armenian or something |
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| 04:42.01 | rafuch0 | is there any file or config file that i can change or something .... thanks ahead for the help you can give me |
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| 04:56.35 | cast | this isn't good, i'm trying to get data off a dvd but i'm getting dd_rescue: (fatal): open "/dev/sr0" failed: No medium found |
| 04:57.01 | cast | if it was just a typical block device, i could stand to lose 5% of the blocks and still be fine |
| 04:57.34 | cast | but....what, have i lost some key "this is a DVD, drive won't read *anything* without it, header" |
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| 05:01.52 | spersaud | anyone have any experience with ruby ? |
| 05:02.14 | spersaud | I tried "sudo gem install yahoo-geoplanet" but its not working :) |
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| 05:04.24 | spersaud | how do I tell it to use rubygems.org ? |
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| 05:05.50 | nsadmin | I built ruby and rubygems myself, then it worked, otherwise (in a debian package) it didnt. |
| 05:10.16 | spersaud | nsadmin: ruby is a pain in the ass .. I prefer python, dont know why anyone uses ruby |
| 05:10.50 | unkmar | and I don't like python. never tried ruby. |
| 05:11.03 | cast | python ftw |
| 05:11.04 | spersaud | unkmar: what do you like ? |
| 05:11.19 | spersaud | C++ ? hehehehe |
| 05:11.20 | unkmar | to not program gui's they all have been a real pain. |
| 05:11.52 | cast | i would have thought they'd be easy to not program a gui in, you simply don't do it |
| 05:11.53 | nsadmin | as far as having experience with ruby itself, I have very little... I decided that the data structures like lists that ruby has are not conducive to recursion, I lost interest |
| 05:13.35 | spersaud | nsadmin: so if I install ruby not from deb it will work ? |
| 05:13.37 | spersaud | strange |
| 05:13.59 | unkmar | I have used: euphoria, C, php, perl, Visual Basic, Quick Basic, batch, bash, and hta. Just stuff I can think of immediately. |
| 05:14.18 | cast | wth is euphoria? |
| 05:14.36 | nsadmin | well ymmv of course... but I personally had bad luck with the rubygems in debian, but not when I built ruby and rubygems myself |
| 05:14.44 | cast | C and perl seem best out of that lot :> |
| 05:14.45 | nsadmin | then everything worked fine forme |
| 05:14.47 | unkmar | I have heard it compared to lisp. |
| 05:15.06 | nsadmin | what, ruby?? tcl is closer to lisp than ruby is |
| 05:15.53 | unkmar | I'll rephrase, I've heard euphoria compared to lisp. |
| 05:16.03 | nsadmin | oh, sorry |
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| 05:16.59 | nsadmin | so euphoria uses puffy clouds where lisp used parens? |
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| 05:18.06 | unkmar | http://www.rapideuphoria.com/ |
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| 05:19.05 | unkmar | and NO, I am not promoting Euphoria. |
| 05:19.49 | unkmar | I simply state that I have used it. It has its advantages. but I pretty much abandoned that language. |
| 05:20.52 | spersaud | does yahoo ever make anything goood ? look at geoplanet, the data is good, but querying it is a mess, will have to make my own tools, atleast they provided the data |
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| 05:26.56 | nsadmin | spersaud yui seems pretty good |
| 05:28.22 | Karen_m | whenever i reboot my laptop, sometimes my wlan0 gets assigned to the onboard nic, and wlan1 goes to my usb. Other times, I will reboot and wlan0 -> usb, wlan1->onboard nic... why is that? |
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| 05:29.31 | unkmar | I assume that if you attach the usb wlan0 AFTER boot that it will become wlan1 everytime. |
| 05:29.31 | cast | Karen_m: welcome to linux.... |
| 05:30.05 | Karen_m | unkmar, that's right but is there a way to force it on a reboot? |
| 05:30.11 | cast | Karen_m: devices get reenumerated all the time, so we try to use UUIDs and similar for drives and such, for network cards you can use udev to bind a certain MAC to a set ethN |
| 05:30.39 | Karen_m | cast, my wicd tracks wlan0 or wlan1 |
| 05:30.41 | unkmar | i was just about to suggest udev. |
| 05:30.51 | Karen_m | can i do udev with it? |
| 05:31.10 | cast | http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/udev.htm |
| 05:31.23 | nsadmin | you want to doodev on udev? |
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| 05:36.51 | Karen_m | thank you! |
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| 05:45.43 | pallgone | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=482176 |
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| 05:46.00 | pallgone | ^ this is still not fixed in squeeze |
| 05:47.01 | unkmar | http://pastebin.com/ZR0jcFVA |
| 05:47.16 | unkmar | I have an ezonics webcam. Any chance I am missing something on making it work? |
| 05:47.45 | pallgone | there's a patch in the thread but it seems that it never made it into the initscripts |
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| 06:00.38 | stunts513 | is there a way to easily make xorg configure itself to use vesa, without me having to set all the modes manually? |
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| 06:02.31 | stunts513 | cause the card is outdated, its chips and tech, wich intel bought out ages ago, and the linux driver sucks, cant get to 1024x768 like i can in windows.thought vesa might work cause i did something similar to the computer im on thats running ubuntu, i changed out some values, but this card was much simpler to do cause i found the codelines on the internet |
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| 06:04.30 | rozie | stunts513: what card it is? |
| 06:04.57 | rozie | and what linux driver do you use? |
| 06:05.07 | stunts513 | rozie:uh lemme see its a chips and tech card, gotta check the model, its a diffffernet computer than the one im one |
| 06:06.03 | rozie | lspci should be fine |
| 06:07.12 | rozie | if it is not laptop, then maybe get some better card (should be avaliable even for free) |
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| 06:09.37 | stunts513 | naw its a laptop |
| 06:09.44 | stunts513 | and old outdated compaq armada |
| 06:10.10 | unkmar | I wonder when lenny expects to use Kernel 2.6.32.6 or newer. |
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| 06:10.34 | stunts513 | think i go tteh model number |
| 06:10.46 | stunts513 | its f69000 |
| 06:11.15 | stunts513 | my xorgfile is like weird, it wasnt like this before...all the sections are like defualted to only say configureeeeeeeed such and such device |
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| 06:13.39 | stunts513 | here we go |
| 06:13.50 | stunts513 | rozie: VGA compatible controller: Chips and Technologies F69000 HiQVideo (rev 64) |
| 06:14.14 | rozie | uhm. strange indeed |
| 06:14.46 | rozie | if xorg.conf is weird, just backup this one and generate new |
| 06:15.07 | stunts513 | thats what i did recently |
| 06:15.50 | stunts513 | i screwed with the xorg, tryd to make it use vesa driver, that didnt work out well at all so i did the dpkg-reconfigure or watever the command is that rebuilds the xorg file |
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| 06:16.40 | stunts513 | i just want the old piece of junk to not be a 800x600 resolution in the lcd screen casue its not fullscreen, and it wont stretch |
| 06:17.05 | pallgone | stunts513: replace 'Driver "xxx"' with 'Driver "vesa"'? |
| 06:17.27 | stunts513 | ok lemme look |
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| 06:19.02 | stunts513 | hmm theres no driver under device section |
| 06:19.09 | stunts513 | should i jst make one? |
| 06:20.19 | stunts513 | ok i added the entree |
| 06:20.46 | stunts513 | now i need help with restarting the gdm, on ubuntu i can just goto a ttyl and type stop gdm |
| 06:20.49 | stunts513 | then type start gdm |
| 06:21.06 | stunts513 | but on debian it doesnt recognzie that command(stop and start commands) |
| 06:21.41 | nsadmin | (to get out of X type ctrl-alt-backspace) try just X |
| 06:22.29 | stunts513 | kk |
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| 06:22.51 | stunts513 | i have to get up and do this,lol ive been lazy and suing vnc to control it from here |
| 06:22.59 | stunts513 | using* |
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| 06:25.35 | pallgone | stunts513: is it lenny? |
| 06:25.40 | stunts513 | ok that didnt work out well |
| 06:25.57 | nsadmin | what do you mean? be specific please |
| 06:26.00 | stunts513 | i havent the slightest, i havnt checkd to see the distros that are out of debian |
| 06:26.04 | nsadmin | "doesn't work" has no information |
| 06:26.10 | stunts513 | i no |
| 06:26.24 | nsadmin | so, what happened exactly? |
| 06:26.25 | stunts513 | let sjust say xorg tryd to restart and my screen started turning birght white |
| 06:26.29 | stunts513 | and then the computer locked up |
| 06:26.39 | pallgone | stunts513: what are you using, debian 5? |
| 06:26.59 | stunts513 | il have to check when it finishing checking hard drive for errors |
| 06:27.05 | stunts513 | i think i installed it about a year ago |
| 06:27.20 | stunts513 | if that helps... |
| 06:27.36 | stunts513 | i havnt payed much attention to my server till recently cause i just got annoyed by it |
| 06:27.46 | nsadmin | so if X did that, starting gdm would have also |
| 06:27.54 | stunts513 | yea |
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| 06:28.01 | pallgone | well, you can restart gdm with: service gdm restart |
| 06:28.02 | stunts513 | i had the same thing happen before |
| 06:28.20 | stunts513 | when i manulaly tried to edit it to vesa cept i added so modes that worked on anotehr computer |
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| 06:28.30 | stunts513 | so thats how u restart it in debian |
| 06:29.03 | stunts513 | if ubuntu is based on debian, why are the command sso different |
| 06:29.46 | unkmar | stunts513: /etc/init.d/gdm stop and start work for me in debian. |
| 06:29.59 | pallgone | stunts513: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg |
| 06:30.04 | unkmar | granted, I need to be root first. |
| 06:30.11 | pallgone | stunts513: follow the steps there to create an xorg.conf |
| 06:30.15 | stunts513 | yea i tend to forget teh directory cause im used to teh stop and start command on ubuntu |
| 06:30.21 | rozie | and service gdm restart is probably some Ubuntu invention |
| 06:30.39 | rozie | /etc/init.d/gdm restart should work on Ubuntu too |
| 06:30.44 | stunts513 | o |
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| 06:31.02 | pallgone | stunts513: then edit the file, look for driver and put vesa |
| 06:31.17 | stunts513 | ok |
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| 06:36.37 | stunts513 | ok this will take a while cause i had to run fsck as root, cause when it locked up i had to hold the switch down |
| 06:36.46 | a_l_e | hi. while updating debian testing i a conflict error among liabo2 and libao-common... |
| 06:37.27 | a_l_e | can i safely remove one of both packages? |
| 06:39.54 | a_l_e | currently apt is trying to remove cmus and vorbis-tools... and i don't really like it... |
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| 06:45.48 | rozie | a_l_e: you can probably add them later |
| 06:46.12 | a_l_e | rozie: trying to do this right now... first update, then reinstall cmus... |
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| 06:53.24 | maurizio | the debian wiki indicates (wiki.debian.org/Lustre) that one needs to use etch's kernel source to use the lustre filesystem. Is that still true? |
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| 06:59.38 | a_l_e | rozie: yep, it worked by reinstalling them afterwards. thanks! |
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| 07:02.25 | stunts513 | okmy laptopserver is booting up |
| 07:02.32 | stunts513 | waitng on te stupid wifi to connect |
| 07:03.53 | stunts513 | if i dont asnwer someone its cause im falling asleep, its 2:03 am here |
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| 08:25.25 | superlinux | hi. |
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| 08:25.57 | superlinux | how can i use 'find' to find me files that are greater than some bytes? |
| 08:26.02 | wann | Bonjour! |
| 08:26.11 | superlinux | wann, bonjour |
| 08:26.39 | superlinux | how can i use 'find' to find me files that their sizes are greater than some bytes? |
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| 08:31.43 | jelly-home | superlinux: /msg dpkg using find |
| 08:32.28 | superlinux | jelly-home, i was answered in #bash |
| 08:32.30 | superlinux | thanks |
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| 08:39.07 | pallgone | wann: usb-creator is a not a debian tool... |
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| 09:15.20 | project2501b | for opteron you load amd64, correct? |
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| 09:28.37 | ^Willie^ | any atheros users in this channel ? |
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| 09:29.13 | cast | sure. |
| 09:29.20 | cast | but i'm not answering your question |
| 09:29.23 | ^Willie^ | i have an Atheros AR2413 (MAC 7.8, PHY 2112A 4.5, Radio 5.6) card that is detected by ath5 and madwifi drivers look like working but no scanning results at all :s |
| 09:29.59 | ^Willie^ | atm i feel verry happy since i did wana go for an intel ipw2200bg card for 7 euro ... |
| 09:30.19 | ^Willie^ | argh i feel anything but happy about atheros atm :S |
| 09:30.40 | ^Willie^ | intel wifi just works.. |
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| 09:32.29 | ^Willie^ | cast: like always when people need real help ? |
| 09:33.23 | cast | the state provides |
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| 09:35.09 | ^Willie^ | cast: jup but sometimes hordes of lemmings point an other linux user go shop for atheros wifi it works.. when you know intel just works.. and no i got thew *beep* card and won`t work at all |
| 09:35.29 | ^Willie^ | and now i got* |
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| 09:35.40 | ^Willie^ | i go for coffee feel like not wana fix any more typoes |
| 09:35.55 | pallgone | ^Willie^: dmesg saying anything? firmware loaded etc? |
| 09:35.59 | cast | my atheros just works, both mine :) |
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| 09:41.43 | cast | # /etc/init.d/nfs-common start |
| 09:41.43 | cast | Starting NFS common utilities: statd failed! |
| 09:41.47 | cast | thinks |
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| 09:42.20 | cast | ^Willie^: i tend to use bpo or testing kernels |
| 09:43.21 | cast | ahh, had to start portmap |
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| 09:53.51 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: hmm nothing seen about firmware i did look the manuals at the kernel part a few times nothing about firmware.. |
| 09:54.20 | ^Willie^ | cast: this is an own compiled kernel apt-get source linux2.6 |
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| 09:54.50 | ^Willie^ | cast: must do it that way for the target system that has a kernel size limitation 1.8M bzipped |
| 09:57.27 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: i`ll make an paste bin for both drivers |
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| 10:07.57 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: with madwifi -> http://pastebin.ca/1932431 |
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| 10:15.54 | Gijs | People |
| 10:16.07 | Gijs | i am running a 64 bit server with some 32 bit core files |
| 10:16.15 | Gijs | and i started some services like appache |
| 10:16.15 | pallgone | ^Willie^: so the ath5k isn't working too? |
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| 10:16.28 | Gijs | is it possible that it can crash and when i try to start it again it misses a core file? |
| 10:17.09 | pallgone | ^Willie^: http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k |
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| 10:18.01 | ^Willie^ | using ath5k -> http://pastebin.ca/1932439 |
| 10:18.33 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: hmm yesterday i did not get the scanning notice with the ath5k driver.. |
| 10:19.07 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: i was planning to pickup an intel ipw2200bg for 7 euro and take the atheros.. it will be used as linux access point.. |
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| 10:23.26 | xyan | ^Willie^: which kernel version do you run? |
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| 10:24.09 | xyan | ^Willie^: quick google seems to reveal that your bug is related to 2.6.26-27, maybe trying the one in squeeze fixes your issue? |
| 10:25.10 | ^Willie^ | xyan: ok so go for the vanilla 2.6.28 and try again ? |
| 10:25.35 | pallgone | ^Willie^: how about bpo? |
| 10:26.16 | xyan | ^Willie^: yeah either a bpo kernel or do it yourself |
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| 10:28.05 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: bpo ? and that is ? |
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| 10:28.21 | xyan | !tell ^Willie^ about bpo |
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| 10:28.41 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: the target host is an cobalt networks raq server it is i586 and will not run precompiled kernels due there size |
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| 10:29.12 | ^Willie^ | but basicly the advice is try a newer kernel and stay at ath5k driver ? |
| 10:30.08 | pallgone | ^Willie^: it's more an idea than advice... not sure if it will work |
| 10:30.33 | pallgone | ^Willie^: but why do you need wifi on a rack server? |
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| 10:31.41 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: home router + wifi can do 96MBit/s troughput |
| 10:31.59 | ^Willie^ | cable isp is rated 50~80Mbit/s |
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| 10:32.18 | ^Willie^ | and wifi for my mobile workstation.. the laptop and an nintendo wii |
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| 10:34.31 | hramrach | Hello |
| 10:35.05 | n00b0tr0n | hi there. |
| 10:35.17 | hramrach | are there multithreaded mplayer packages somewhere? |
| 10:36.02 | hramrach | I think I saw them in aptitude but not that I have dual core cpu I cannot find them |
| 10:37.15 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: but I'm quite disappointed at this outcome. After the storys from the community about atheros best supported card |
| 10:37.55 | jpinx-eeepc | !atheros |
| 10:37.55 | dpkg | Atheros Communications is a developer of semiconductors. Ask me about <ath5k>, <ath9k> or <ar9170> for stable wireless LAN chipset drivers; <ar5523>, <ath9k_htc> or <carl9170> for wireless drivers under development. The non-free <madwifi> driver was removed from Debian post-Lenny. Ask me about <atl1>, <atl2>, <atl1e> or <atl1c> for Ethernet adapter drivers. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/Atheros |
| 10:39.06 | pallgone | ^Willie^: you shouldn't be... the community is certainly wrong to say some brand would be good |
| 10:39.54 | pallgone | ^Willie^: it's usually the chipset you have to watch out for, and then there are all those different kernels, with different bugs and all |
| 10:40.29 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: jup i was better off with an ipw2200bg for 7 euro compared to this 12 euro atheros card :S |
| 10:41.11 | pallgone | ^Willie^: I would say you were just unlucky here :) |
| 10:41.25 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: this starts to feel like broadcom`s support that won`t support bcm4306 since it is old and closed source drivers for mips/risc not for x86... |
| 10:41.48 | ^Willie^ | pallgone: but in the asus wl500g routers those broadcoms work damn good |
| 10:41.55 | ^Willie^ | same card :S |
| 10:42.18 | jpinx-eeepc | ^Willie^: maybe some firmware missing? |
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| 10:43.06 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: hmm do you have an manual for atheros and firmware i read a single line about some driver need firmware but it is not included in the drivers readme so sorry for that.. |
| 10:43.28 | jpinx-eeepc | ^Willie^: it'll be in non-free maybe |
| 10:43.39 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: first point i`m missing some debug info to check and double check also missing howto`s .. |
| 10:43.47 | jpinx-eeepc | hasn't rea the whole scrollback |
| 10:43.51 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: the bcm4306 ppc driver is nonfree indeed |
| 10:44.21 | jpinx-eeepc | ^Willie^: chase down the references from dpkg s message |
| 10:44.52 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: for wat ? |
| 10:44.57 | jpinx-eeepc | I had to install some non-free firmware to get my usb wifi adapter to work |
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| 10:45.47 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: hmm dpkg did not show anything about it |
| 10:45.55 | jpinx-eeepc | ^Willie^: do the legwork dude -- /msg dpkg atheros |
| 10:45.57 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: and nonfree sources is enabled btw |
| 10:46.30 | ^Willie^ | ahh nice |
| 10:46.36 | jpinx-eeepc | you might have sources listed but that means nothing if you don't know what to install |
| 10:47.09 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: hmmzz i have 7 days started yesterday to return this wifi card for something that works |
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| 10:47.27 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: but also feel like the card is not the issue at here ... |
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| 10:48.37 | jpinx-eeepc | well - you have to eliminate possiblities one by one |
| 10:48.38 | OperaFan | Hi, I have a problem with Debian Linux (squeeze) booting too fast, and it's trying to checkfs before the disks have actually spun up. I am trying to write a noddy init script that just adds a delay very early in the boot sequence, but having problems. |
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| 10:49.19 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: thnx i`ll continue my question in #linux-wireless |
| 10:49.21 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: are your hd's clockwork? ;) |
| 10:49.46 | OperaFan | no, my root runs in NAND and boots in a few seonds |
| 10:50.03 | OperaFan | Marvell Sheevaplug |
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| 10:50.55 | OperaFan | It's a USB HDD, so it only starts spinning up when the kernel USB core is loaded |
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| 10:51.29 | OperaFan | I have tried this: http://pastebin.com/QKdHkhZA |
| 10:51.42 | OperaFan | but it's not happening early enough in the boot. |
| 10:52.01 | dutchfish | hi, what does this warning mean when upgrading to clc 7.4 and right after finishing Loading file /var/cache/common-lisp-controller/0/clisp/cl-asdf/asdf.fas ... (WARNING: DEFGENERIC: redefining function SYSTEM-SOURCE-FILE in /var/cache/common-lisp-controller/0/clisp/cl-asdf/asdf.fas, was defined in top-level) |
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| 10:52.18 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: ah ok - but can you not put the basic system on some internal drive |
| 10:52.43 | OperaFan | what internal drive? 512MB of NAND is all it has |
| 10:53.11 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: you can get a basic system onto 512Mbs |
| 10:53.15 | OperaFan | There is a minimal debian install there that takes about 60% of that. |
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| 10:53.56 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: boot your minimal install and chroot into the usb one? |
| 10:54.01 | OperaFan | the USB HDD has all my media on it, and also my mailfiles for postfix etc. So everything cocks up when it starts up as it fails to mount the USB |
| 10:54.10 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: I am only throwing ideas in the air - |
| 10:54.29 | OperaFan | I didn't want any linux code on the USB, as it never spins down otherwise. |
| 10:54.59 | OperaFan | I did toy with that idea, but keep coming back to simply slowing down boot... |
| 10:55.07 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: you can make a system and then use squashfs |
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| 10:55.33 | OperaFan | it's not particular maintainable thou. |
| 10:55.42 | jpinx-eeepc | I have a full live system with lxde and stuff on 256Mbs SD |
| 10:55.55 | jpinx-eeepc | true - it's read only |
| 10:56.35 | OperaFan | the full linux on nand works brilliantly, it's low power and fast to boot, too fast :-) I just want a USB HDD on there for all the big media and storage needs |
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| 10:57.31 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: you can probably get debian with lightweight DE etc into 512MBS |
| 10:57.54 | jpinx-eeepc | it depends on what you want the O to do |
| 10:58.03 | jpinx-eeepc | ......OS to do |
| 10:58.56 | OperaFan | I don't need DE, Sheevaplug has no VGA, it's serial console only |
| 10:59.06 | ^Willie^ | jpinx-eeepc: can you tell wat part of the nonfree atheros support has been removed or that is the part where we can manual install madwifi via apt ? |
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| 10:59.45 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: so you need x at all? |
| 11:00.00 | hramrach | OperaFan: you can still run Opera on a headless box inside Xvnc ;-) |
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| 11:00.06 | jpinx-eeepc | mind you, x is not heavy - it's the de's that are |
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| 11:00.33 | jpinx-eeepc | ^Willie^: can't say that I do know - sorry |
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| 11:01.52 | OperaFan | never need X, anyway all Linux desktop suck. Sorry |
| 11:01.57 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: if you are running without a de and the associated hangers-on -- I suggest you can probably get the whole OS into 512 with a bit of pruning maybe |
| 11:02.23 | OperaFan | I already have, my filesystem image is about 100MB |
| 11:02.39 | jpinx-eeepc | fails to see the problem now |
| 11:02.55 | OperaFan | (apart from Android DE of course....) |
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| 11:19.36 | OperaFan | screw it, i put a delay at the start of checkfs init script. job done |
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| 11:27.03 | Enverex | As uShare now appears to be a dead project, are there any other media sharing applications that will stream to an xBox 360? (MediaTomb doesn't do video or xBox 360s at the moment) |
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| 11:30.27 | jpinx-eeepc | OperaFan: you'll live with that for a while and then fix irt properly :) |
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| 11:32.12 | eptalon | hello there. |
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| 11:32.37 | eptalon | Have the bugs relating to ALSA (in kernel 2.6.32) been fixed yet? |
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| 11:35.47 | abrotman | eptalon: that's very vague, and there is a BTS and a changelog |
| 11:36.12 | stew | and there are alsa-source packages you can compile against the 2.6.32 kernel |
| 11:36.53 | paul424 | how about squeeze ( testing) ? I would like to upgrade the whole repo to it. |
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| 11:37.40 | stew | paul424: "/msg dpkg lenny->squeeze" note that you give up security support, and the main reason it isn't yet the stable release is the number of known bugs it has |
| 11:37.45 | eptalon | abrotman: I have been using "sid"/"unstable", for quite a bit of time now, and for about the last 4-6 months, I have problems initializing ALSA. |
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| 11:38.00 | paul424 | How often there are broken packages, or any problems from RAW packages from that .... |
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| 11:38.16 | stew | eptalon: what does "cat /proc/asound/version" return? |
| 11:38.18 | eptalon | I am aware of the BTS, but wanted more "real-time" info. |
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| 11:38.36 | stew | eptalon: is the bug a debian bug or an upstream bug? |
| 11:38.57 | eptalon | stew: no such file or directory. |
| 11:39.02 | abrotman | eptalon: and i'm telling you there is a BTS and a changelog for you to reference .. and those are 'real time' |
| 11:39.16 | abrotman | eptalon: what is your kernel version? /proc/version |
| 11:39.46 | stew | eptalon: what if you run "modprobe snd" then check /proc/asound/version again |
| 11:39.53 | nvz | anyone know if recent changes that cause a kexec style reboot are within the kernel or elsewhere? |
| 11:40.02 | eptalon | abrotman: 2.6.32-trunk-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-5) (ben@decadent.org.uk) (gcc version 4.3.4 (Debian 4.3.4-6) ) #1 SMP Sun Jan 10 22:40:40 UTC 2010 |
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| 11:40.23 | stew | eptalon: so you are several alsa versions behind the current sid version. why not try a current version? |
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| 11:40.41 | abrotman | eptalon: why are you using -trunk- ? |
| 11:41.01 | stew | (a trunk kernel that was removed some time ago) |
| 11:41.06 | eptalon | abrotman: to my knowledge thats the latest kernel version that works. |
| 11:41.07 | abrotman | like .. six months ago |
| 11:41.24 | stew | eptalon: what's wrong with the current testing version or unstable version? |
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| 11:42.43 | eptalon | stew: as in "linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64"? |
| 11:42.57 | stew | eptalon: sure |
| 11:43.19 | eptalon | stew: or a 2.635, but which is again a "trunk"? |
| 11:43.24 | stew | sure |
| 11:43.29 | abrotman | eptalon: it's a very outdated kernel |
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| 11:44.01 | stew | eptalon: if they don't work, what is the problem? debian is planning on releasing squeeze with 2.6.32-5, if there is a problem making them not work, it really needs to be in the BTS |
| 11:44.04 | eptalon | abrotman: so what kernel do you suggest? (AMD64)? |
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| 11:44.27 | abrotman | eptalon: the newest one available via apt .. it shuld be 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 11:44.47 | abrotman | eptalon: you should aptitude install linux-image-amd64, then reboot, choose the -5- kernel, and then remove the -trunk- |
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| 11:45.38 | eptalon | ok, thanks. |
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| 11:46.32 | TheBrayn | hi |
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| 11:50.46 | TheBrayn | do you know if Alexander Wirt (the admin of paste.debian.net) is here sometimes? |
| 11:52.01 | abrotman | i don't think on this channel, why? |
| 11:52.29 | TheBrayn | some errors in the rpc-interface documentation |
| 11:52.49 | abrotman | send him an email? |
| 11:52.52 | TheBrayn | yeah |
| 11:53.12 | abrotman | how long ago? he might be busy or on vacation |
| 11:53.12 | stew | TheBrayn: he's formorer@debian.org |
| 11:53.17 | TheBrayn | I know |
| 11:53.32 | TheBrayn | abrotman: I haven't sent him an email yet |
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| 11:55.48 | pinco | hello |
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| 11:56.00 | pinco | !list |
| 11:56.00 | dpkg | pinco: VATTENE VIA! |
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| 11:56.29 | abrotman | !list |
| 11:56.29 | dpkg | abrotman: VATTENE VIA! |
| 11:56.47 | pinco | !!!!!!list |
| 11:57.21 | abrotman | pinco: wrong channel, go away |
| 11:58.22 | pinco | and what is this? |
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| 11:58.36 | abrotman | pinco: bye, have a nice day |
| 11:59.37 | pinco | ooooooo nooo |
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| 12:01.05 | pinco | klòmjokj |
| 12:01.32 | abrotman | pinco: do you have a Debian related question? |
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| 12:02.24 | Matic`Makovec | Hey there. So I'm working on exporting devices (hard drives) over iscsi from one server to be hard drives in another one (somewhat a diskless system...in a way). Now what I'd need is those disks in the client server to always be named identically. I think I know I need udev set up correctly but I can't find a guide/manual/something on the theme. Could anyone maybe point me in the direction, please? |
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| 12:03.58 | cast | if you put an LVM layer in there it won't matter if they show up as sdWTF |
| 12:04.17 | cast | or you could use UUIDs |
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| 12:04.50 | Matic`Makovec | Yes, the intention is to get the hard drives from the disk server to client server, then pvcreate and slap stuff into lvm |
| 12:05.21 | Matic`Makovec | But pvcreate takes an argument of /dev/stuff...does that matter or doesn't it matter? The path 'n all |
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| 12:06.13 | cast | well, you'd had better get the right device in the pvcreate bit...but afterwards, my understanding is it doesn't matter |
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| 12:07.10 | johaBBa | how can i get google-chrome-i386 installed on lenny amd64? i would prefer not to use ndiswrapper for plugins |
| 12:07.35 | Matic`Makovec | cast, I'll dig into that, thanks |
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| 12:08.56 | cast | make sure your iscsi target LVM doesn't scan the PVs your exporting :) |
| 12:09.23 | Matic`Makovec | cast, I'll explain a bit further |
| 12:09.32 | Matic`Makovec | I'm having disk images, not actual disks or partitions |
| 12:09.37 | cast | ahhh. |
| 12:09.41 | Matic`Makovec | So I losetup those images and export them as LUNs |
| 12:09.41 | cast | IET presumably? |
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| 12:09.51 | Matic`Makovec | Yes, ietd |
| 12:09.56 | cast | you don't need to losetup them with IET do you? |
| 12:10.04 | Matic`Makovec | I _think_ I do |
| 12:10.06 | Matic`Makovec | Don't I? |
| 12:10.15 | Matic`Makovec | Well, I've got all the resources to test that |
| 12:10.17 | Matic`Makovec | :) |
| 12:10.19 | cast | i had the vague feeling you didn't, but i never tried it |
| 12:10.23 | cast | tries |
| 12:10.29 | Matic`Makovec | I shall as well |
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| 12:11.58 | Matic`Makovec | Wow, yeah cast |
| 12:12.03 | Matic`Makovec | Your vague feeling was correct |
| 12:12.13 | Matic`Makovec | That's actually right next to awesome! |
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| 12:12.55 | Matic`Makovec | No modifying menu.lst for me and rebooting for max_loop setting then |
| 12:12.56 | Matic`Makovec | Great |
| 12:13.19 | Matic`Makovec | (Not that that'll be hard but I'd get complains about restarting server :<) |
| 12:13.26 | Matic`Makovec | that would* |
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| 12:14.10 | cast | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.14 | cast | :) |
| 12:14.21 | cast | much win |
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| 12:14.52 | cast | be careful if you use open-iscsi for the iscsi initators |
| 12:15.00 | Matic`Makovec | Why? |
| 12:15.21 | cast | well, for a start, if you ctrl-c it while its hanging you have to reboot to clear stuff out [known bug] |
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| 12:16.42 | cast | i think i triggered that same need to reboot doing something else involving losing network connectivity |
| 12:16.47 | Matic`Makovec | cast, while it's hanging? When restarting it or something? |
| 12:17.03 | cast | well, say you start it and the target is offline |
| 12:17.08 | cast | it'll hang for a bit |
| 12:17.14 | cast | don't ctrl-c it :\ |
| 12:17.19 | Matic`Makovec | :) |
| 12:17.23 | Matic`Makovec | Right, thanks :) |
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| 12:17.42 | Matic`Makovec | I hand compiled it actually because the debian version was too low, was giving me conn errors |
| 12:17.51 | Matic`Makovec | This one works though |
| 12:18.17 | cast | i was experimenting with yanking the cable on the target, and watching my mdadm raid fail over |
| 12:18.58 | cast | at any rate, very cool tech :) |
| 12:20.22 | Matic`Makovec | Hehe, yeah |
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| 12:20.36 | Matic`Makovec | Hum, you know what I noticed while playing with this though? |
| 12:20.48 | Matic`Makovec | Now that you said it...I'm getting some dm errors sometimes as well |
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| 12:21.02 | Matic`Makovec | Just never actually reproduced them so I'm not sure of the triggers for that |
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| 12:24.34 | cast | over iscsi? |
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| 12:27.25 | bkw | Hi, I try to install install a guest using lenny default kvm package, and virtio modules loaded. while doing virsh start guest, I get: unsupported bus type 'virtio'. |
| 12:27.34 | qq- | ah, needs trustedkeys.gpg , google .. |
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| 12:29.26 | Matic`Makovec | cast, no, it somewhat screwed up my local raid |
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| 12:29.46 | Matic`Makovec | Local as in on the machine that was using open-iscsi to take other disks and had its own raid |
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| 12:32.18 | joshb | my ISP is complaigning my exim4 is sending them mail for root (Deb/Sarge), how do i fix that ? /etc/aliases redirects it to a local user |
| 12:32.28 | joshb | thanks for any pointers obviously |
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| 12:34.52 | cast | joshb: setup your firewall to drop outbound emails, :), then do a dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config, |
| 12:35.08 | cast | joshb: oh....sarge....why are you still using sarge? |
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| 12:35.17 | joshb | it works |
| 12:35.23 | cast | !sarge |
| 12:35.23 | dpkg | Sarge is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1, released June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <sarge sources.list>, <sarge-backports>. Get old Sarge ISOs here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge |
| 12:35.31 | cast | uhuh |
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| 12:35.36 | joshb | i like stuff that works |
| 12:35.40 | cast | you mean it works...as part of a botnet? |
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| 12:36.20 | cast | we don't support sarge ;) |
| 12:36.25 | joshb | botnet ? no this is my pc here |
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| 12:37.31 | abrotman | joshb: there are serveral huge security issues in sarge, you really should consider migrating the box to lenny |
| 12:37.33 | joshb | is debian install process sweet for etch ? |
| 12:37.34 | abrotman | via etch |
| 12:37.46 | joshb | via etch ?! lol |
| 12:38.10 | joshb | can't i just put the latest stable on it ? |
| 12:38.16 | abrotman | you can .. if you want |
| 12:38.24 | abrotman | or you can dist-upgrade twice |
| 12:38.54 | joshb | hmm... sounds tough |
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| 12:38.59 | lucas_bp | I installed the nvidia drivers on my debian lenny works normal but when I run the commands CTRL + ALT + NUM, CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE or even a simple halt / reboot the video to answer, what is wrong in xorg? |
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| 12:39.21 | krion | matin |
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| 12:39.39 | joshb | if there is a security gap maybe i should upgrade |
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| 12:40.02 | joshb | can't we just stop developing Linux already, it's great as it is ;) |
| 12:40.17 | joshb | Debian/GNU/Linux heh |
| 12:40.31 | cast | and just leave the holes open? :) |
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| 12:40.51 | lucas_bp | help me ? |
| 12:40.51 | joshb | a nice & sweet patch system ? |
| 12:41.00 | Enverex | What is ia32-apt-get all about? I've been advised to use it to install some libs (I'm running sid) but it doesn't seem to exist for me. Has it been and gone? |
| 12:41.18 | jelly-home | Enverex: correct |
| 12:41.25 | joshb | actually i broke dpkg the other day too, maybe an upgrade isn't too bad an idea |
| 12:41.47 | Enverex | jelly-home, So I'm guessing it was decided against in the end then? Meh. |
| 12:42.01 | cast | joshb: i'd reinstall personally, given that its been in a trivial to root state for so long |
| 12:42.05 | stew | joshb: if you are running sarge, then yes, you should really consider an upgrade |
| 12:42.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, bug 423364 about rdesktop/umlaut is from 2007... but I see the same behavior - and if I specify the keymap with -k de, I'm getting what seems en-US layout (or some other en layout square brackete on ü and *) |
| 12:43.56 | joshb | this pc could be owned right now :) |
| 12:43.56 | lucas_bp | I installed the nvidia drivers on my debian lenny works normal but when I run the commands CTRL + ALT + NUM, CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE or even a simple halt / reboot the video to answer, what is wrong in xorg? |
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| 12:45.19 | cire | Hi, does anybody know a good program to draw tree charts? |
| 12:46.04 | joshb | ill buy some CDs |
| 12:46.45 | hubba | cire, maybe Dia? |
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| 12:48.41 | cire | hubba: I think the charts drawn with dia are not that nice, but okay, if there's no alternative... thanks |
| 12:48.55 | abrotman | cire: what's worng with them? |
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| 12:50.31 | cire | abrotman: I'd like to have some color transitions on the entities |
| 12:51.01 | hubba | isn't gimp for that? |
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| 12:51.28 | cire | hubba: right, color transisitons are easily made in gimp, but charts? |
| 12:51.34 | gunma | hi |
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| 12:54.08 | gunma | say, debian 5.05 is the lates dvd iso? |
| 12:54.23 | gunma | *latest |
| 12:54.31 | dvs | gunma: yes |
| 12:54.31 | joshb | they should give ISP admins a social relations course some day :( |
| 12:55.09 | abrotman | !netinst |
| 12:55.09 | dpkg | somebody said netinst was a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 12:56.30 | joshb | bye, thx, don't go try break into this pc now ... be good |
| 12:56.30 | gunma | hi dvs |
| 12:56.35 | dvs | hi |
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| 12:57.10 | gunma | dvs, a complete package on the dvd, blender, desktop managers? |
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| 12:57.54 | dvs | gunma: desktop managers yes but probably not blender |
| 12:58.01 | gunma | dvs, i see |
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| 12:59.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | cire, well... inkscape? |
| 13:00.39 | gunma | dvs, its quite huge, whats on it anyway |
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| 13:03.00 | dvs | gunma: you could look at the jidgo file |
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| 13:03.41 | gunma | dvs, whats a jigdo file? ;) |
| 13:03.52 | gunma | *jidgo |
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| 13:04.39 | dvs | !jigdo |
| 13:04.39 | dpkg | [jigdo] Jigsaw Download, *the* method for downloading CD/DVD/BD images of Debian. See "Downloading Debian CD images with jigdo" at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ . http://wiki.debian.org/jigdo http://atterer.org/jigdo/ |
| 13:05.18 | gunma | dvs, ty im on the page now |
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| 13:06.42 | TechnoRacoon | How would one go about installing debian testing via a flash drive? |
| 13:07.02 | dvs | !usb install |
| 13:07.02 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
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| 13:07.23 | pif | hi, what is the best way to encrypt my entire laptop disk? |
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| 13:07.30 | pif | with debian/windows dual boot |
| 13:07.34 | TechnoRacoon | Thanks |
| 13:07.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | TechnoRacoon, if you have newish hardware, also /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 13:08.07 | TechnoRacoon | ok |
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| 13:08.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | cire, for the final touches... for mostof the drawing, dia might be more convenient |
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| 13:12.22 | hubba | I guess jigdo is good if you need the disk image |
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| 13:12.38 | hubba | but bittorrenting the netinstall should be better if you only want to install it |
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| 13:13.45 | dvs | hubba: I find jigdo much faster than bittorrent |
| 13:14.04 | hubba | that's probably true, it's using the servers after all |
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| 13:16.28 | nuscire | hey, guys. do you know when will squeeze be released? |
| 13:16.30 | cast | netinst is pretty small, |
| 13:16.37 | cast | nuscire: no. no one does. |
| 13:16.37 | dvs | nuscire: this year |
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| 13:17.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell nuscire -about wir |
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| 13:18.15 | nuscire | mmm, thank you. |
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| 13:23.08 | gunma | ty guys see you |
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| 13:31.12 | lxsameer | does any one can install recent flash player on debian 64? |
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| 13:37.47 | mrbnet | I have put together a flash drive with debian net install on it. How can I roll some custom scripts and settings into that which get installed at time of installation? |
| 13:37.56 | Dansblug | lxsameer, Have you tried the debian wiki? There is an article about how to install flash there. |
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| 13:39.21 | lxsameer | Dansblug: i have flash player installed but it is out of date, i installed that following the debian wiki |
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| 13:41.14 | Dansblug | lxsameer, I am a beginner so I may not be able to help you so much. Have you tried aptitude update? |
| 13:41.38 | rozie | lxsameer: package from adobe for ubuntu installs and runs fine (on Squeeze) |
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| 13:41.48 | lxsameer | Dansblug: that command will update the repo index file |
| 13:42.01 | lxsameer | rozie: ahhhhh thanks , |
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| 13:43.27 | jelly-home | rozie: don't suggest that, packages for different distros may break your system |
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| 13:44.12 | lxsameer | rozie: is it for 64bit linux? |
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| 13:45.34 | jelly-home | (and for a 64bit browser build) |
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| 13:47.34 | rozie | jelly-home: yeah, flash is evil and may break system |
| 13:47.45 | lxsameer | jelly-home: do you have better suggestion ? |
| 13:48.06 | rozie | lxsameer: there's no 64bit flash right now. thank adobe |
| 13:48.12 | jelly-home | lxsameer: yes, but not one you'd like |
| 13:48.28 | lxsameer | jelly-home: what is it then? |
| 13:48.31 | lxsameer | rozie: i see |
| 13:48.36 | rozie | lxsameer: you should help develop free alternative. like gnash |
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| 13:49.14 | jelly-home | lxsameer: I use a 32bit system, and a 32bit Firefox build (straight from Mozilla) |
| 13:49.37 | jelly-home | got fed up with different issues in amd64 |
| 13:49.38 | lxsameer | rozie: i'm really hate flash , but i need it |
| 13:49.44 | rozie | jelly-home: Firefox build from Mozilla may break your system ;) |
| 13:49.56 | jelly-home | rozie: how? |
| 13:49.59 | lxsameer | jelly-home: can i use 32bit firefox on amd64 using lib32 |
| 13:50.14 | rozie | jelly-home: same way flash does it |
| 13:50.51 | jelly-home | rozie: how is that different from flash in a packaged browser ie. what makes the Mozilla build worse? |
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| 13:52.12 | alcy | folks, could running a dnscace without any softlimit bad practice ? |
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| 13:52.33 | alcy | s/bad practice/be considered bad practice |
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| 13:53.20 | jelly-home | alcy: probably depends on the particulars of the software used |
| 13:53.21 | rozie | jelly-home: it was sarcasm. in fact any third party package (or even testing/untable one) can break you system |
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| 13:53.47 | alcy | jelly-home: djdns/dnscache |
| 13:53.56 | jelly-home | rozie: the ones created for different distros are more likely to do so. |
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| 13:56.08 | jelly-home | rozie: in addition to not having had to pass any debian policy tests, it's a binary built against different libraries |
| 13:56.26 | thewanderer1 | I have 2 screens configured via xrandr. How to make my Wacom tablet stay only on 1 screen (laptop screen, while having attached ext. VGA)? |
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| 13:58.12 | jelly-home | alcy: dunno, we run it with a certain CACHESIZE and it doesn't seem to reach the data segment soft limit set to some 25% more. |
| 13:58.14 | itchi | Hi all, after a hdd hardware issue. I had need to reinstall. On the install i had need to boot up with noapic and nolapic. After the reboot, the system hang on Setting console screen modes and fonts |
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| 13:58.48 | Jord_n | C'est quoi le site? |
| 13:58.58 | itchi | What can i do to fix this, or what should a check? |
| 13:59.00 | jelly-home | alcy: softlimit is a safety measure against leaks and bugs unaccounted for... why would you avoid it |
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| 13:59.57 | itchi | I tried another reinstall but still same, i guess there's some issue with whatever but i dunno what :( |
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| 14:01.09 | jelly-home | rozie: adobe's own packages have had flawed install scripts and more issues with packaging bits than build issues. they're a good example why not to use 3rd party packages |
| 14:01.35 | itchi | Seems that the system is completely hangin, capslock and scrollock are blinking and can't activate numlock, it doesn't react |
| 14:01.40 | alcy | jelly-home: not me. but have seen some guys over at work doing so. by default the -m option is set to 3000000 bytes with cache size of 1000000, so that on some systems isnt sufficient, hence they remove the softlimit altogether. |
| 14:02.25 | itchi | Bah, knoppix is just booting fine :( |
| 14:02.54 | alcy | instead of setting it a bit higher |
| 14:02.56 | alcy | :s |
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| 14:03.11 | jelly-home | alcy: cache size of 1000000 is so small. |
| 14:03.20 | spikeb | to any debian developers here, i'd just like to say thanks. :) |
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| 14:03.55 | compgenius999 | hey guys, is wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools included on CD 1? |
| 14:04.19 | alcy | jelly-home: yeah, usually I append another zero (or two !) |
| 14:04.44 | jelly-home | alcy: we put local dnscache on machines that make a significant number of queries, like mail and antispam servers, a 1MB cache is silly |
| 14:04.53 | itchi | kinda lost in this hell guys :( |
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| 14:05.23 | alcy | jelly-home: this article serves a good reference http://thedjbway.b0llix.net/djbdns/cachesize.html :) |
| 14:05.32 | compgenius999 | so, does anybody know if wireless_tools and wpa_supplicant are on CD 1? |
| 14:05.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell compgenius999 -about cd contents |
| 14:05.56 | spikeb | itchi, boot the installed version with noapic and nolapic, perhaps? |
| 14:06.06 | alcy | itchi: probably you got the wrong iso for your architecture ? |
| 14:06.35 | jelly-home | /service/dnscache/env/CACHESIZE 268435456 |
| 14:06.37 | jelly-home | /service/dnscache/env/DATALIMIT 272629760 |
| 14:07.03 | compgenius999 | oh, thanks CutMeOwnThroat |
| 14:07.47 | jelly-home | alcy: those numbers need to bumped up for Linux i386, and more for amd64 |
| 14:08.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | compgenius999, very likely, but check yourself... I could connect from the kmuto install cd to wep and there were options for wpa, too - not sure about the packages that get installed |
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| 14:08.33 | compgenius999 | CutMeOwnThroat: it says cd-1 DOES have wpa_supplicant and wireless-tools, so anyway, thanks |
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| 14:10.06 | alcy | jelly-home: cool. |
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| 14:10.31 | compgenius999 | CutMeOwnThroat: any idea if debian will install if there's bad sectors? |
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| 14:11.09 | jelly-home | alcy: the above is from an amd64 lenny antispam machine. Give softlimit at least 4-16MB more than its space for cache, executables and libraries these days eat up more than on *BSD or Solaris in 2002 |
| 14:11.52 | pallgone | hmm, any idea why my bluetooth headset does not appear as sound device but I can connect it and all? |
| 14:11.54 | rozie | compgenius999: there's no point in using broken disc |
| 14:11.56 | pallgone | ^squeeze |
| 14:12.02 | alcy | jelly-home, cool...thanks for the tip ! :) |
| 14:12.40 | rozie | jelly-home: debian flash packages were crappy too |
| 14:12.44 | compgenius999 | rozie: i've had 3 hard drives fail on me this year, and the 3rd one only failed on me last week, so I'm forced to use the spare in my parts drawer |
| 14:12.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | pallgone, different drivers for connecting the bluetooth device and registering it as a sound-device |
| 14:13.07 | rozie | it was bash script, which updated silently(!) then downloaded binary from adobe |
| 14:13.12 | jelly-home | rozie: they didn't break upon removal or purging like adobe's |
| 14:13.27 | compgenius999 | anyway, I'll just try it |
| 14:13.47 | rozie | jelly-home: tested installation and upgrade so far. works fine |
| 14:14.01 | rozie | and flash player is just one binary, after all |
| 14:14.02 | pallgone | CutMeOwnThroat: hmm, so what do I need additionally? |
| 14:14.11 | pallgone | CutMeOwnThroat: terminal-fuzz? |
| 14:14.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | forgot! |
| 14:14.30 | jelly-home | rozie: try removing and/or purging |
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| 14:15.04 | itchi | alcy & spikeb : this is a 64 bit if i'm right, i have the ia now that i go to try |
| 14:15.25 | itchi | but i thought the i386 ran fine, at least this was before on this system |
| 14:15.27 | rozie | jelly-home: on the next upgrade I will. |
| 14:15.58 | itchi | It's a Core 2, that's a IA64? |
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| 14:16.05 | amphi | itchi: no |
| 14:16.05 | jelly-home | itchi: no, it's amd64 |
| 14:16.05 | dvs | itchi: no, amd64 |
| 14:16.08 | rozie | itchi: no, amd64 |
| 14:16.10 | alcy | lol |
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| 14:16.13 | amphi | heh |
| 14:16.15 | itchi | hmm wait |
| 14:16.16 | dvs | liars! |
| 14:16.18 | dvs | ;-) |
| 14:16.24 | pallgone | CutMeOwnThroat: ah, probably this: http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothAlsa |
| 14:16.31 | itchi | i have an Intel sticker on the front :s |
| 14:16.45 | jelly-home | itchi: we know |
| 14:16.49 | themill | dpkg: tell itchi about why amd64 |
| 14:16.50 | rozie | itchi: RTTFAQ then |
| 14:17.00 | itchi | so realy amd64 i should get?? |
| 14:17.01 | dvs | em64t! |
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| 14:17.03 | rozie | or google it, or whatever |
| 14:17.09 | dvs | itchi: yes |
| 14:17.10 | itchi | i'm irssi'ing on my server loooool!!!! |
| 14:17.13 | jelly-home | itchi: no, all the people here lie to you! |
| 14:17.23 | amphi | itchi: yes (if you have 'lm' in the cpu flags ;) |
| 14:17.23 | rozie | itchi: yes. ia is itanium |
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| 14:18.02 | itchi | ok, i will re download a 3 time the netinst iso lol |
| 14:18.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | pallgone, I got it to work 4 years ago, but it was kind of a pain... |
| 14:18.19 | itchi | strange that this box ran i386 for some years :s |
| 14:18.22 | amphi | itchi: measure twice, cut once ;) |
| 14:18.35 | itchi | amphi: Right! :D |
| 14:18.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | cut what? |
| 14:18.59 | itchi | Need to go to the ground floor, for that download :s |
| 14:19.12 | itchi | Thanks guys |
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| 14:21.28 | fir3 | hi |
| 14:21.49 | |[_CoRV|NuS_]| | :S |
| 14:21.52 | |[_CoRV|NuS_]| | hi! |
| 14:22.13 | fir3 | i tried to remove an old kernel image but now apt hangs at "Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub" (debian lenny) |
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| 14:24.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | woah |
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| 14:24.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | !lame-o-meter |[_CoRV|NuS_]| |
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| 14:25.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | !lameometer |[_CoRV|NuS_]| |
| 14:25.07 | dpkg | '|[_CoRV|NuS_]|' is 99.890% lame, cutmeownthroat |
| 14:25.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's pretty lame |
| 14:25.39 | jelly-home | !nickometer CutMeOwnThroat |
| 14:25.41 | dpkg | 'CutMeOwnThroat' is 14.000% lame, jelly-home |
| 14:25.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | wonder what the 0.11 non-lame bits are |
| 14:26.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, I know... that's because it thinks CamelCase is lame... and doesn't know about Pratchett and the long nicks you need for the characters |
| 14:26.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's a bug... I already complained |
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| 14:27.14 | jelly-home | yeah, you ought to be presented as at least 25% lame, not just 14% |
| 14:27.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | !lameometer cutmeownthroat |
| 14:27.24 | dpkg | 'cutmeownthroat' is 0.000% lame, cutmeownthroat |
| 14:27.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, ^^^ |
| 14:27.55 | fxiny | super lame : i'm sure dpkg standard error is exaclty 0.11% ;P |
| 14:28.03 | jelly-home | itchi: there's nothing wroung with i386, it even has some comparative advantages |
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| 14:28.45 | fxiny | CutMeOwnThroat: cutmeownthroat is not your nick , try with capital letters |
| 14:29.07 | itchi | jelly-home: Well, it don't work on that problematic system anymor, when it has been for long time before |
| 14:29.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | fxiny, look at your backlog |
| 14:30.29 | jelly-home | itchi: I almost responded with "linux systems can almost always be fixed without reinstallation" |
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| 14:31.12 | itchi | kinda shity, my debian laptop passed away a few days back, my main desktop it's boot hdd died to, and theres an raid0 also, need to get that back once system reinstalled |
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| 14:32.08 | itchi | jelly-home: Gona change to Raid1 if i can recover, or even plain 2 ext3 |
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| 14:34.30 | itchi | There are just a bunch of virtual machines on the raid0, just for tests... and lots of little movies for the kids. Need to try to recover because the kids are borring me |
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| 14:36.01 | itchi | normally there's nothing wrong with my raid, just that the /boot was on another hdd who has passed away |
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| 14:36.12 | cusco | hello |
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| 14:38.23 | itchi | indeed with the amd64 install, plug in and start install, no need to feed with noapic nolapic |
| 14:38.34 | spikeb | good sign |
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| 14:39.09 | itchi | yeah, it's downloading the stuff :) |
| 14:39.26 | itchi | i'm kinda tired to work with the laptop of my wife with her win7 |
| 14:39.38 | itchi | Later i will need your help to fix my laptop :D |
| 14:39.52 | fxiny | sends a hammer to itchi |
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| 14:40.06 | itchi | The power cable is broken of the laptop, baterie already passed away :( |
| 14:40.49 | ^Willie^ | hmm wat if madwifi and ath5k from debians default lenny kernel is not working .... |
| 14:41.07 | itchi | i didn't saw directly there was an issue with the cable, i guess he killed the old battery |
| 14:41.43 | thewanderer1 | I have a dual-screen setup under GNOME with xrandr. How to move gnome-panel from 1 screen to another? |
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| 14:41.53 | itchi | I discovered when the batterie died, and when i had need to work without battery, every few movement and hop, no power anymore :D |
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| 14:44.05 | cusco | I am installing squeeze in my old laptop... |
| 14:44.20 | spikeb | i have squeeze on two of my three machines :) |
| 14:44.37 | cusco | as I |
| 14:44.56 | cusco | but long time I don't install debian in any of them |
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| 14:46.50 | ^Willie^ | itchi: thats basicly why i did replace my old topline p3 900mhz laptop for an c2d 2ghz model with working battery ;) |
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| 14:48.47 | itchi | ^Willie^: yah, a new power cable is 70euro |
| 14:49.19 | fxiny | thewanderer1: do you have a realtek nick ? |
| 14:49.21 | itchi | hmm it's staying for long time now on Retrieving file 799 of 799 :s |
| 14:49.32 | cusco | my power cable wen bad too... I rip it open, and weld two bits togheter |
| 14:49.35 | cusco | working like a charm |
| 14:49.36 | cusco | :) |
| 14:49.51 | itchi | cusco: That's what i should do! :) |
| 14:50.03 | thewanderer1 | fxiny: you mean NIC? no. |
| 14:50.35 | fxiny | thewanderer1: i remember you told me something about realtek + some hack to get it working , i found a NETGERA GA311-100 PES in the f* shop , realtek 8169 |
| 14:50.44 | fxiny | netgear* |
| 14:51.52 | itchi | bah, it's just hanging on the last file to download, wtf :( |
| 14:52.02 | itchi | system still respond! |
| 14:52.06 | ^Willie^ | argh one day this system works fine other day many things go wrong :s |
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| 15:00.39 | thewanderer1 | fxiny: yeah, I have a Realtek ethernet card, thought you were talking about WiFi... |
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| 15:01.19 | pr0mised | hey, someone cal help me about find and replace... for exemple.. i have 30 files that have an text inside "Hello" and.. i need chage this in the all files.. for exemple the command line grep -r "Hello" . | -i sed 's/Hello/Hi/g' But it don't work, how can i make it? |
| 15:01.32 | fxiny | thewanderer1: 8169 ? |
| 15:01.44 | pr0mised | hey, someone can help me about find and replace?... for exemple.. i have 30 files that have an text inside "Hello" and.. i need chage this in the all files.. for exemple the command line grep -r "Hello" . | -i sed 's/Hello/Hi/g' But it don't work, how can i make it? |
| 15:01.44 | thewanderer1 | fxiny: hold on, I'll get a precise listing from my server |
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| 15:02.27 | unkmar | pr0mised: that works, but you have to put that output somewhere. You will want to for loop through the files. |
| 15:02.35 | thewanderer1 | fxiny: RTL8111/8168B |
| 15:02.56 | itchi | Cool, it's installed and it WORK woooohooo :D |
| 15:03.08 | itchi | now need to install the desktop env lol |
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| 15:03.46 | fxiny | thewanderer1: ok |
| 15:04.12 | itchi | Didn't not selected that desktop env in tasksel during the debian install. Now need to find back how, and without tasksel :D |
| 15:04.48 | pallgone | CutMeOwnThroat: hmm, it works somehow, but skype crashes when the microphone is supposed to come into play :) |
| 15:05.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | skype! |
| 15:05.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | try ekiga? |
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| 15:08.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | !lameometer jelly-home |
| 15:08.01 | dpkg | 'jelly-home' is 14.000% lame, cutmeownthroat |
| 15:08.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha |
| 15:09.12 | qq- | !lameometer qq- |
| 15:09.13 | dpkg | 'qq-' is 14.000% lame, qq- |
| 15:09.25 | itchi | I get many: do_IRQ: 0.83 No irq handler for vector on my screen, what does that mean? |
| 15:09.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-hme shouldnt throw with glasses when he's in a stone-house |
| 15:09.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | or somesuch |
| 15:10.42 | itchi | can't access the web in a desktop env right now to look about, i'm on my server now and the desktop is installing stuff |
| 15:10.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | itchi, why without tasksel? |
| 15:10.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | "apt-cache show tasksel"? |
| 15:11.16 | itchi | CutMeOwnThroat: well finally i'm doing with it |
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| 15:11.55 | itchi | just to gain a bit of time, because i need to fix my raid0 after this install, at least try to backup the data on the raid, if possiblz |
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| 15:14.15 | itchi | And know what, tasksell is hanging on the last file he need to fetch, shit |
| 15:14.36 | itchi | twice i got this :( |
| 15:14.56 | itchi | i should try with another mirror i guess and not with the belnet.be anymore :s |
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| 15:18.40 | itchi | hmm, i killed tasksel, removed the aptitude and dpkg lock file, restarted tasksel and now it's ok |
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| 15:19.04 | eqisow | So, when trying to compile any package on my amd64 lenny system, checkinstall shows the architecture as 'i386' |
| 15:19.09 | itchi | just that messages are messing up my screen in the console :( |
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| 15:19.50 | eqisow | so package installation fails, all I could think to try was changing the architecture manually, but then the program just segfaults, meaning apparently it's actually compiling as i386? |
| 15:19.57 | BigC | wouldnt you use the dpkg -f command? |
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| 15:20.04 | itchi | I get many: do_IRQ: 0.83 No irq handler for vector on my screen, which is kinda irrating without x |
| 15:20.21 | eqisow | BigC: I don't actually want it to compile an i386 package though |
| 15:20.30 | eqisow | and I'm not sure why it is |
| 15:20.35 | itchi | eqisow: hanging in taskel? |
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| 15:20.49 | thepro4ever | i tried to remove a package with "apt-get remove" and it says not installed but it still shows up in my "dpkg -l" list |
| 15:20.56 | thepro4ever | WHATS THE DEAL |
| 15:21.02 | itchi | ow, i missed a msg |
| 15:21.02 | eqisow | itchi: eh? |
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| 15:21.09 | itchi | eqisow: ignore me ;-) |
| 15:21.14 | eqisow | lol, roger |
| 15:22.14 | RCP | thepro4ever apt-get purge pkg |
| 15:22.24 | RCP | thinks |
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| 15:24.15 | eqisow | from what I'm reading, it looks like compiling for i386 on an amd64 machine involves a chroot, which I definitely don't have *confused* |
| 15:24.49 | eqisow | This is the first thing I've compiled in at least 6 months, but previous compiles/checkinstalls came out as amd64 |
| 15:24.55 | cantido | eqisow: you could probably build a cross compiler (the amd64 gcc might be able to build for ia32..) but libs will be a pain in the arse |
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| 15:26.45 | eqisow | cantido: sorry, if wasn't clear, this is what I'm dealing with: http://pastebin.com/NQnL7uHR |
| 15:27.40 | eqisow | it's an amd64 machine, but checkinstall is producing i386 packages. If I manually change the architecture whatever it is just segfaults when run |
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| 15:30.26 | puty | hi any program support blackbery? copy, syn, buckup .... thanks |
| 15:30.47 | itchi | ok, gnome and the whole desktop environment finally installed!!! But in gnome or every time i click on somethings my system beeps! |
| 15:30.48 | puty | backup |
| 15:30.49 | puty | _D |
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| 15:31.32 | quitte | eqisow: zou can have a amd64 kernel while having i386 userspace. what does dpkg-architecture say your arch is? |
| 15:31.41 | itchi | I think these beeps come along with that issue: No irq handler for vector |
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| 15:32.57 | eqisow | quitte: http://pastebin.com/GHt8KJ8C ... |
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| 15:33.15 | pif | how does initramfs decide what modules my system requires to boot? |
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| 15:33.35 | pif | debian kernels consistantly fail to boot my boxes |
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| 15:34.47 | quitte | eqisow: that is bad. did you install perl from upstream or something? |
| 15:34.50 | rawtaz | based on the second paragraph at http://bit.ly/dnz6Ur mentioning historically at least four months after freeze, maybe up to 6-8 months, for testing to become release, do you think it will be like that this time too, or is there any possibility that squeeze will be released in a month or so? |
| 15:35.20 | spikeb | rawtaz, it will likely be the same this time. |
| 15:35.31 | willmore | I just installed debian on a Seagate DockStar. This is amazing. |
| 15:35.50 | eqisow | quitte: not at all, "5.10.0-19lenny" |
| 15:35.55 | spikeb | willmore, cool. i have squeeze on a sheevaplug |
| 15:35.58 | rawtaz | spikeb: roger. |
| 15:36.16 | willmore | spikeb, these guys are on sale at fry's for $25 right now, I just couldn't resits. :) |
| 15:36.27 | spikeb | willmore, very nice :) |
| 15:36.30 | willmore | What do you do with yours? |
| 15:36.46 | spikeb | willmore, mine's just a file server and torrent downloader |
| 15:36.53 | quitte | eqisow: i dont anything about perl and its modules. but something perl related is very wrong on your system |
| 15:37.05 | willmore | I think I'm going to send one to my father. I'll think of something to do with it later. :) |
| 15:37.30 | eqisow | well, at least know where to look now. thanks for the assist. |
| 15:37.41 | willmore | I think it's time to brush up on my ARM assembly. |
| 15:39.02 | spikeb | willmore, i'll probably also host a GNU Social instance on it once social is a bit more mature |
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| 15:39.57 | alcy | spikeb, willmore: I run (actually ran) it on nanonote (mips based). some weekend will put it on beagleboard :) |
| 15:40.19 | spikeb | cool |
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| 15:41.58 | Patina | Why doesn't ctrl+alt+backspace kill this xserver? |
| 15:42.56 | quitte | Patina: thats the default behaviour. you can change it in xorg.conf |
| 15:44.20 | itchi | Got my problem fixed with adding in menu.lst "pci=nomsi, noaer" not sure if this is ok, but no beeps and spam in dmesg anymore. And system at least usable too!!! |
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| 15:44.57 | willmore | I'm not sure what that is, let me go google. |
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| 15:45.46 | Patina | quitte: I can't find anything unusual in xorg.conf. |
| 15:46.07 | Patina | Does it matter it's a usb keyboard? |
| 15:46.25 | EmleyMoor | Not a jot |
| 15:47.15 | alcy | Patina, nothing unusual will be found, that's the default behavior (regarding the keybindning)...you can change the file according to your requirement |
| 15:47.30 | alcy | s/bindning/binding |
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| 15:55.45 | inthl | using sort to sort some output, with sort -u to see the unique entries, is there a way to list the amount of the unique entries which have been filtered there? |
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| 15:57.59 | roc_ | hi |
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| 15:59.03 | roc_ | I want to upgrade from stable to testing. I edited my sources.list and done aptitude update and aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude. But now apt and aptitude arent installed anymore?how to fix? |
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| 16:00.48 | marshall | roc_: apt-get? |
| 16:00.49 | peterrooney | roc_: oh? /usr/bin/aptitude does not exist? |
| 16:01.05 | roc_ | I dont know why |
| 16:01.11 | roc_ | peterrooney: yes |
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| 16:01.17 | roc_ | I just done aptitude install apt aptitude dpkg |
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| 16:01.29 | roc_ | apt and aptitude are uninstalled but dpkg exist |
| 16:01.29 | apt | okay, roc_ |
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| 16:02.45 | peterrooney | roc_: try dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/aptitude_<someversionorother>.deb |
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| 16:03.41 | roc_ | okay I found apt in cache and this works now |
| 16:03.44 | peterrooney | roc_: the worst case scenario is you have to manually install each dependency |
| 16:04.05 | roc_ | peterrooney: do you use squeeze? I need a working sources list? |
| 16:04.14 | Crypticfortune | So I got this nice shiny new Toshiba Dynabook AZ/05M with a tegra 250 in it, and of course, want to put debian on it (instead of android) but can't figure out how boot an installer.... anyone have any insights? There's no traditional "press F1 for setup" or something like that... |
| 16:04.18 | roc_ | apt-get update shows 505 |
| 16:04.23 | ^Willie^ | any debian users that have ath5k driver working with regulair debian lenny kernel ? |
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| 16:04.47 | ^Willie^ | looks like compat-wireless is broken or something is wrong with it.. |
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| 16:06.18 | roc_ | Fehl http://volatile.debian.org squeeze/volatile/contrib Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 86.59.118.153 80] |
| 16:06.31 | peterrooney | roc_: nope, lenny. |
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| 16:08.34 | peterrooney | roc_: can you paste the ONE line from your sources.list? |
| 16:09.27 | roc_ | peterrooney: I make a new try, I found a sources.list generator and now the update works |
| 16:09.39 | roc_ | I will try to install aptitude with apt |
| 16:09.42 | roc_ | apt-get |
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| 16:10.07 | Lunar_Lamp | cycle |
| 16:10.27 | Lunar_Lamp | cycle |
| 16:10.54 | roc_ | ah perfectly aptitude works now. Thanks guys |
| 16:11.14 | marshall | roc_: perfect xD |
| 16:11.49 | roc_ | marshall: It's hard to get debian running on a MacBook :P |
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| 16:12.10 | roc_ | there works nearly nothing out of the box |
| 16:12.34 | roc_ | but the light of the apple works awesome :D |
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| 16:13.58 | marshall | roc_: :o yeah! dificil pero no imposible |
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| 16:15.34 | roc_ | yes, where is a will, there is a way of course. |
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| 16:21.53 | Patina | ctrl+alt+backspace not working has something to do with this usb keyboard. Used in a box with ps/2 keyboard, the usb keyboard works, but doesn't kill the xserver, where the ps/2 does. |
| 16:22.03 | Patina | A bit strange, I think. |
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| 16:26.05 | oneheart | @Patina - can you try the ps/2 kbd right now |
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| 16:28.03 | Patina | oneheart: The problem is with a fitPC which only has usb ports, so no, I can't try the ps/2 there. |
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| 16:29.12 | oneheart | oh I see |
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| 16:32.17 | oneheart | Patina: does each individual key (Ctl, Alt, Bkspc) work? |
| 16:32.36 | Patina | Yes |
| 16:32.57 | oneheart | ok, now let's do a test to see if they work together |
| 16:33.16 | oneheart | open your terminal, run 'xev' |
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| 16:34.13 | oneheart | press and hold CTL, you should see some lines with "keycode=37" |
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| 16:36.28 | oneheart | while holding CTL, press and hold ALT: you should see some other lines with "keycode=64" |
| 16:37.51 | Kamshak | dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda bs=1M count=2048 |
| 16:37.52 | Patina | No response on ALT while holding CTRL. |
| 16:37.57 | Kamshak | is it a good idea to run this? |
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| 16:38.36 | oneheart | Patina: try the other ALT |
| 16:38.36 | AimHere | Kamshak, in general, no. |
| 16:38.51 | Patina | Kamshak: If you want to delete 2GB of data. |
| 16:39.34 | Patina | oneheart: There is only one. |
| 16:39.49 | AimHere | That's not deleting 2 gigs of data though, that's munging the first 2 gigabytes of your actual hard drive. Not quite the same thing |
| 16:40.09 | oneheart | ok, release the CTL, now press and hold ALT alone |
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| 16:40.46 | Kamshak | AimHere, Patina: Thanks, a friend sent it to me as a way to optimize my disk |
| 16:40.50 | fxiny | mbr included ... |
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| 16:41.19 | Patina | Kamshak: Maybe he is trying to be funny. |
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| 16:41.25 | AimHere | This must be some new usage of the word 'friend' that I was hitherto unaware of |
| 16:41.28 | macrobat | on another sid installation, my realtek RTL8111/8168B ethernet card isnt working (kernel 2.6.32-5). udev rules: http://paste.debian.net/87793/ |
| 16:41.48 | macrobat | with friends like that, who needs enemies? |
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| 16:42.21 | Kamshak | idk im new to the whole linux thing, so it basically deletes my hard drive? |
| 16:42.37 | macrobat | Kamshak: it overwrites data |
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| 16:43.02 | maligor | replaces the first 2gb of data on the hardrive with random data |
| 16:43.06 | AimHere | 'man dd' and 'man random' will give you the gory details on what the 'dd' command and /dev/random do |
| 16:43.09 | maligor | it'll make your system unrecoverable |
| 16:43.16 | Kamshak | oh |
| 16:43.47 | rozie | macrobat: why do you have twice the same card? |
| 16:44.02 | AimHere | I am impressed that you asked for a second opinion before running an unfamiliar linux command as root. |
| 16:44.20 | macrobat | rozie: i commented the last line out, i wanted eth0, not eth1 |
| 16:44.21 | rozie | macrobat: and why eth0 twice? |
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| 16:44.27 | macrobat | oh |
| 16:45.04 | macrobat | forgot to comment out the forcedeth |
| 16:45.07 | macrobat | ty |
| 16:45.11 | rozie | np |
| 16:45.35 | macrobat | i need reading skills :D |
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| 16:53.19 | itchi | Hi, whats the firmware package name in squeeze for my r8169 ? |
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| 16:54.52 | itchi | I don't find it with apt |
| 16:55.19 | fxiny | 8169 firmware again ? i thought it was included in .32 -> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=48797 |
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| 16:55.58 | fxiny | itchi: what card is that ? |
| 16:56.15 | quitte | firmware-realtek package id assume. |
| 16:56.22 | quitte | if any |
| 16:56.31 | itchi | fxiny: A Realtek gigabit network card |
| 16:56.45 | itchi | quitte: that seems to be for wifi |
| 16:57.09 | AimHere | firmware-realtek lists the serial numbers for the firmwares, and 8169 isn't there |
| 16:57.16 | fxiny | and i'm sure i read a closed bug about it |
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| 17:01.07 | itchi | ok, it's included into the kernel it seems |
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| 17:02.01 | fxiny | so what's your problem again ? |
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| 17:02.34 | fxiny | you are installing and ? |
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| 17:04.18 | itchi | fxiny: i'm doing an upgrade from lenny-squeeze and installer told that some firmware isn't icluded for some |
| 17:04.23 | itchi | but mine is ok it seems |
| 17:04.35 | itchi | at least, i have still internet on the other box lol |
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| 17:05.17 | wfq | hi guys |
| 17:06.09 | oneheart | hi |
| 17:06.11 | quitte | itchi: the installer allows to go back a step and try again in most situations. |
| 17:06.32 | wfq | could you please recommend me a screen recorder for Debian Squeeze? |
| 17:06.42 | quitte | wonders if this is a legitimate usabilitz problem or not. |
| 17:06.59 | itchi | quitte: xvidcap if i remember right without verification |
| 17:07.23 | quitte | wfq: xvidcap, apparently |
| 17:07.47 | wfq | quitte, thanks a lot. |
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| 17:16.16 | h3po | hey guys, i need some help getting debian-live with live-sn functionality to run |
| 17:16.29 | h3po | the help file isn't complete for this part (yet?) |
| 17:17.05 | quitte | sn? |
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| 17:17.43 | h3po | i'm running it from a flash drive and want to use snapshots on reboot to reduce write cycles |
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| 17:18.52 | h3po | as far as i can deduce from the help file, i just have to create a partition named "live-sn" and the system will automount and load the rw filesystem from it |
| 17:19.27 | thewanderer1 | h3po: what kind of help file? do you mean the online documentation? |
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| 17:19.41 | h3po | yes, the docu |
| 17:19.59 | thewanderer1 | so have you tried that? that is what I understand, too |
| 17:20.38 | quitte | just read it. i agree. also thanks for pointing out that option. |
| 17:20.42 | h3po | i made a debian-live img with live-helper on a vm and put it onto my pendrive, and it boots fine |
| 17:21.08 | h3po | then i installed parted and made a live-sn ext2 partition |
| 17:22.06 | h3po | when i ran the live-snapshot tool by hand, i had my changes persistent after the reboot |
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| 17:22.49 | h3po | but it won't automatically load all snapshots so on every reboot i only have the changes made at the first start when i installed parted |
| 17:23.09 | unkmar | I have before me a Panasonic toughbook CF-T2. and I can't get the sound to work. Alsamixer detects it as an intel. volume is turned up and all important items unmuted. I have read: http://odie.sork.nu/cf-t2/ |
| 17:23.22 | thewanderer1 | h3po: isn't there a boot option for that? |
| 17:23.41 | h3po | yes, "persistent" |
| 17:23.46 | unkmar | says something about the FN+ Mute key in windows. |
| 17:24.16 | Raptors | Hey guys is there a way to check what RAM I have in my computer? |
| 17:24.23 | Raptors | I don't want to restart my comp and check in the bios |
| 17:24.32 | h3po | thewanderer1: how would you go about running a system from flash and having the rw filesystem in ram? |
| 17:24.38 | unkmar | Raptors: lshal or lshw. |
| 17:24.59 | Raptors | command not found :\ |
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| 17:25.14 | thewanderer1 | h3po: I made a package for that, wait, I'll find it |
| 17:25.40 | thewanderer1 | h3po: it's not Debian Live but a full install, just loaded into RAM, though - a little hack of mine that I was using in the past |
| 17:26.09 | h3po | i only have 4gigs of flash and 2gigs of ram |
| 17:26.17 | fxiny | Raptors: decode-dimms iirc is in i2c-tools |
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| 17:26.31 | h3po | the system shall act as dhcp and asterisk server later |
| 17:26.34 | thewanderer1 | h3po: no worries, I have 8G flash and 2G RAM, but my install on HD was taking 2GB |
| 17:27.04 | h3po | is there a special channel by the debian-live devs? |
| 17:27.18 | thewanderer1 | h3po: I don't know - I'll hand you the script in a few mins |
| 17:27.25 | h3po | ok thanks for that |
| 17:27.30 | thewanderer1 | h3po: by the way, it should be better than Debian Live in case of a server... |
| 17:27.57 | Raptors | fxiny, No EEPROM found, are you sure the eeprom module is loaded? |
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| 17:28.08 | h3po | in the end, your script would do the same as the changes made for debian-live ;) |
| 17:28.29 | thewanderer1 | h3po: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=49345 |
| 17:28.31 | quitte | h3po: #debian-live on irc.oftc.net |
| 17:28.38 | fxiny | modprobe it ? |
| 17:28.39 | thewanderer1 | it's simpler and does not do autoconfiguration |
| 17:28.59 | h3po | thx |
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| 17:29.21 | quitte | thewanderer1: auto config can easily be disabled now |
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| 17:29.36 | thewanderer1 | quitte: thanks, I didn't know that |
| 17:30.53 | fxiny | Raptors: does it work now ? |
| 17:31.07 | h3po | i think i'll ask the debian-live guys first |
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| 17:31.21 | Raptors | fxiny, IDK how to probe it. I installed lshw. I'll try that out first |
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| 17:31.59 | unkmar | any ideas on the sound issue with the panasonic toughbook CF-T2 ? |
| 17:32.18 | TMM | I want to start the debian installer with the 'text' frontend it looks like the default installer media doesn't have it though |
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| 17:32.23 | fxiny | Raptors: modprobe eeprom , ahhh lshw yes . but i used decode-dimms |
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| 17:33.08 | TMM | how do I get an installer medium with that frontend? |
| 17:33.24 | Raptors | fxiny, it still wont work |
| 17:33.29 | Raptors | Number of SDRAM DIMMs detected and decoded: 0 |
| 17:34.04 | fxiny | Raptors: after modprobing ? strange |
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| 17:34.13 | Raptors | ya :\ |
| 17:34.47 | joltcan | Techtronic: Have you read the documentation? It looks like you could do something like this: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.html.en |
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| 17:34.53 | joltcan | Techtronic: sorry |
| 17:35.05 | joltcan | TMM: Have you read the documentation? It looks like you could do something like this: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.html.en |
| 17:35.07 | fxiny | Raptors: are you sure is loaded ? lsmod ? |
| 17:35.48 | Raptors | eeprom 3337 0 |
| 17:35.50 | Raptors | ya... |
| 17:35.53 | TMM | joltcan, yeah I have read the docs, and it says that generally install media only have the 'newt' frontend, and that is the case on the cd that I burned. |
| 17:36.03 | TMM | joltcan, I'm trying to find a cd image with the text option installed |
| 17:36.04 | fxiny | Raptors: lenny or squueze ? |
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| 17:36.07 | Raptors | sid |
| 17:36.14 | joltcan | TMM: Oh, sorry for that. |
| 17:36.24 | joltcan | TMM: Then I was the one that didn't read it :/ |
| 17:36.31 | TMM | joltcan, :) that's ok |
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| 17:36.44 | TMM | joltcan, I'll try to jigdo a full installer cd... perhaps that'll work |
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| 17:39.16 | qdb | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-to-search-in-files-text-that-is-one-byte-encoding-enc-thats-not-unicode-830104/ |
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| 17:40.08 | joltcan | TMM: Yeah, that would be my next suggestion |
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| 17:41.40 | fxiny | total commander ? hahah i'd rather install bo or bo2k :P |
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| 17:47.00 | Raptors | myron rolle got cut D: |
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| 17:47.27 | Raptors | DPP13â: Myron Rolle cut by the Titans, proves nerds can't play football. #NFL |
| 17:47.27 | Raptors | Twitter - 42 seconds ago |
| 17:47.28 | Raptors | LMFAO |
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| 17:50.08 | amphi | /j #spr0t |
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| 17:50.45 | TMM | joltcan, bleh, still no luck... still starts with newt :-/ |
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| 17:53.18 | TMM | is there an installation method where d-i automatically moves to a telnet server or something? |
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| 17:54.09 | Empis | hello, is there any way to list all NIC's? |
| 17:54.17 | TMM | Empis, ifconfig -a |
| 17:54.51 | Empis | even if they arent configurated? |
| 17:54.59 | rozie | lspci |
| 17:55.12 | TMM | yes, -a shows all network interfaces, if they are configured or not |
| 17:55.19 | Empis | ah there we go, thx |
| 17:55.35 | Empis | TMM: ah oke, then my last is broken |
| 17:55.36 | rozie | (sometimes lsusb also - depends what NIC you may find) |
| 17:55.40 | nkuttler | hm, how do i search for tags in package descriptions? |
| 17:56.01 | rozie | TMM: it won't show NIC with no module avaliable, I think |
| 17:57.11 | TMM | rozie, no, it won't |
| 17:57.40 | rozie | Empis: so lspci ;) |
| 17:57.47 | Empis | yup :D |
| 17:57.51 | fxiny | searching for tags ? debtags ? |
| 17:58.19 | fxiny | two or three debconf ago |
| 17:58.49 | TMM | petemc, do you happen to know how I can get a debian installer cd for sparc with the "text" debian frontend? The newt one is completely unusable over serial |
| 18:00.00 | itchi | Upgrading from lenny to squeeze take ages now :( |
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| 18:00.26 | itchi | Some few years back it was almost a matter of 30 minutes |
| 18:01.46 | fxiny | nkuttler: yes , apt-cache show debtags -> http://debtags.alioth.debian.org -> there's a smart search engine there |
| 18:02.00 | Empis | are there big diffrents of debian 32bit and 64bit? |
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| 18:02.05 | nkuttler | fxiny: yah, it just crashed my iceweasel |
| 18:02.41 | fxiny | nkuttler: lemme crash mine , give me a sec ;) |
| 18:03.43 | nkuttler | hm, seems to work now, but doesn't produce any useful output. let's try the package |
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| 18:06.03 | paxed | glxinfo reports server & client glx vendors as SGI and Nvidia. this does not seem right. how can i get rid of nvidia. |
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| 18:07.02 | Raptors | No SMBIOS nor DMI entry point found, sorry. |
| 18:07.10 | Raptors | Anyone know how to fix that? |
| 18:07.52 | tharkun | Good evening, Is there a frontend to bluetooth comunication besides the bluetooth aplet for gnome ? |
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| 18:09.35 | fxiny | nkuttler: http://debconf5.debconf.org/comas/general/proposals/54.html |
| 18:09.36 | Tux^verdreifelt | hm.. how can i upgrade squeeze to wheezy or what it is called? :S |
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| 18:10.38 | tharkun | Tux^verdreifelt: if you have to ask you are not ready yet |
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| 18:11.04 | Tux^verdreifelt | ready for what? :) never done this, squeeze was my first debian after some years, so ... |
| 18:11.05 | Tux^verdreifelt | ;) |
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| 18:14.17 | sdschulze | Tux^verdreifelt: edit your sources.list |
| 18:14.51 | Tux^verdreifelt | only replace "squeeze" with whatever-it-is-called there? |
| 18:15.15 | fxiny | upgrading to what ? |
| 18:15.35 | fxiny | from squeeze to the moon ? |
| 18:15.43 | sdschulze | Check your disk space before, though. |
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| 18:17.21 | Tux^verdreifelt | fxiny: wheezy, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00000.html |
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| 18:18.52 | tharkun | Tux^verdreifelt: for wheezy to be available squeeze first needs to be released as the stable version of debian. So wheezy can become testing. If you want you can subsitute squeeze for testing in your sources.list so you are allways on testing |
| 18:19.18 | Tux^verdreifelt | ah, "testing" is an alias then? |
| 18:19.19 | fxiny | Tux^verdreifelt: and why that ? |
| 18:19.43 | Tux^verdreifelt | fxiny: because i love being on the bleeding edge. ,) (in a VM anyway) |
| 18:19.59 | tharkun | Tux^verdreifelt: But one more time. If you need to ask you are still not ready. |
| 18:20.05 | fxiny | in a VM ? no fun |
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| 18:20.35 | Tux^verdreifelt | fxiny: i'll buy a new machine in the next few weeks, so my old one will be a full-time debian :) |
| 18:20.43 | Tux^verdreifelt | tharkun: when do you guess i am? |
| 18:21.15 | tharkun | Tux^verdreifelt: when you don't have to ask for information that is on http://www.debian.org |
| 18:21.31 | Tux^verdreifelt | :X |
| 18:21.38 | Tux^verdreifelt | i thought that's what this channel is for :) |
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| 18:22.48 | tharkun | Tux^verdreifelt: It is a support channel not a teaching class |
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| 18:23.43 | fxiny | Tux^verdreifelt: and the new one will be ? |
| 18:23.45 | Tux^verdreifelt | hm, i'm sorry then |
| 18:24.04 | Tux^verdreifelt | fxiny: depends if they'll manage to convince me of buying a macbook.. ;) |
| 18:24.08 | karlpinc | Any thoughts on the software to use when establishing a secure 2 way voice channel? One end's debian the other MS Windows so I'm thinking a live-cd instead of Windows. |
| 18:24.08 | Tux^verdreifelt | (but i doubt that) |
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| 18:25.10 | fxiny | Tux^verdreifelt: i have a PII running lenny (this one) , a 3G running lenny , next week coming an i7 and it will run squeeze |
| 18:25.42 | Tux^verdreifelt | currently my vm is on a core 2 duo 1.8 ghz machine.. |
| 18:25.49 | Tux^verdreifelt | portable anyway. |
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| 18:26.01 | fxiny | i don't even think to let debian walking VM shoues |
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| 18:26.49 | Tux^verdreifelt | hmm, i have no choice right now, being a full-time windows developer. |
| 18:26.52 | Tux^verdreifelt | :) |
| 18:26.58 | TMM | karlpinc, there's something called 'silc' that should provide those features I think |
| 18:27.01 | Tux^verdreifelt | (some applications..) |
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| 18:29.35 | karlpinc | TMM: Thanks. I was also looking at ihu. I'm thinking of using livehelper to produce a cd that you just boot and the voice link is established. |
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| 18:31.04 | TMM | karlpinc, with silc you should only have to install one of the cross-platform clients. I think pidgin should work on windows too with SILC voice chat |
| 18:31.10 | TMM | karlpinc, might make it a bit easier |
| 18:31.12 | karlpinc | Come to think of it I don't do anything audio on my box and have no clue if alsa, or whatever, will just work or will need fussing... |
| 18:31.36 | itchi | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.37 | karlpinc | TMM: I was thinking about ditching MS Windows just because for all I know the box has already been cracked. |
| 18:31.55 | TMM | karlpinc, that's a good point I suppose :) |
| 18:32.08 | itchi | Is that been expected? It's already running for almost 1:30 |
| 18:32.14 | karlpinc | TMM: The stats alone tell me not to go there. :) |
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| 18:32.56 | TMM | anyone happen to know how I can obtain a d-i cd for sparc with the 'text' frontend installed? |
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| 18:35.07 | craigevil | karlpinc: pidgin has OTR |
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| 18:35.38 | fxiny | itchi: 1:30 ? what are you upgrading ? a full gnome or kde ? do you have space left ? |
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| 18:36.37 | karlpinc | craigevil: Does that do voice as well? |
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| 18:37.33 | craigevil | karlpinc: using Google Talk it does |
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| 18:38.48 | karlpinc | craigevil: Ah. Cool. Thanks. |
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| 18:44.38 | tharkun | Is there an "unofficial libpam-sqlite" package that anyone knows of ? |
| 18:45.11 | shadowmaster | I'm getting warnings from apt-get/dpkg due to old, obsolete (no longer installed or provided by my apt sources) packages with invalid version strings that are stuck in /var/lib/dpkg/available. What's the best way to get rid of those? |
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| 18:45.21 | acx0 | how often does debian testing update its kernel version? |
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| 18:45.29 | shadowmaster | (this is up-to-date queeze, btw) |
| 18:45.35 | shadowmaster | *squeeze |
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| 18:58.04 | thewanderer1 | how to activate a newly-connected display? |
| 18:58.18 | thewanderer1 | xrandr --output VGA1 --above LVDS1 does not enable it |
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| 19:05.57 | BlackFate | thewanderer1, try using --auto |
| 19:07.59 | thewanderer1 | BlackFate: I did and it worked, but do I have to do that as a 2-step process? |
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| 19:11.52 | BlackFate | thewanderer1, you dont hav to use auto as a second step.. just define resolution with the command you use... --output VGA1 --mode .. etc |
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| 19:12.23 | BlackFate | thewanderer1, auto just uses some preferred values |
| 19:12.35 | thewanderer1 | BlackFate: can I just set "1024x768" as --mode and expect it to work? |
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| 19:14.28 | BlackFate | thewanderer1, well... i think i will... give it a try.. turn it off with --off and use mode to turn it on |
| 19:14.38 | BlackFate | s/i/it/ |
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| 19:14.48 | thewanderer1 | okay |
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| 19:15.45 | thewanderer1 | wow, it worked |
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| 19:16.21 | BlackFate | :D |
| 19:17.17 | thewanderer1 | now, any ideas on how to make Chromium and Nautilus stop being floating windows? |
| 19:17.52 | thewanderer1 | Nautilus is now behaving really bad, it doesn't want to be tiled by my window manager :P |
| 19:18.00 | thewanderer1 | and Chromium... well... a complete failure |
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| 19:19.00 | BlackFate | thewanderer1, try a tiling window manager then.. |
| 19:19.24 | BlackFate | ah you already use one? |
| 19:19.28 | thewanderer1 | yes. |
| 19:19.55 | thewanderer1 | Pidgin, Iceweasel and gnome-terminal are fine, but those two just don't obey the rules |
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| 19:22.52 | thewanderer1 | how to configure DRBL not to break my system? it wants to override my firewall, provide authoritative DHCP and own my machine in general |
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| 19:38.58 | thewanderer1 | how do I set GTK theme? (no GNOME running atm) |
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| 19:42.45 | TMM | thewanderer1, you can symlink a gtkrc from a theme to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
| 19:43.05 | thewanderer1 | TMM: when should the settings take effect? |
| 19:43.21 | TMM | thewanderer1, next gtk app you start should have the new theme |
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| 19:44.03 | thewanderer1 | it just doesn't seem to work somehow |
| 19:44.23 | thewanderer1 | should I relogin? |
| 19:44.29 | TMM | shouldn't be necessary |
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| 19:45.27 | thewanderer1 | I ran gnome-terminal and it didn't seem too Glossy, more like the fallback theme |
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| 20:09.42 | deepy | I'm using a FreeBSD computer to try and prepare an USB stick to become a sourcefor installation |
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| 20:10.27 | deepy | is my zcat no good? It keeps on telling me error writing to output, invalid argument when I do the boot.img.gz thhing |
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| 20:13.25 | gnude | i will use this way to say thank you to all debian developer who helped to make such a great operating system. you did a realy good job! and ... finaly debian helped to save my job. great os, great for home-use, great for server ! thank you!!! |
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| 20:21.08 | foetus | **Dancing with Limits around ProFTPD :) |
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| 20:21.29 | eptalon | heyas |
| 20:21.55 | eptalon | I was on earlier today, with a problem with alsa |
| 20:22.16 | eptalon | Just wanted to say thanks, kernel upgrade basically fixed the issue |
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| 20:25.26 | dkg | Hi guys. I hear that Debian is a kind of Linux and that Linux is a kind of Ubuntu. What's different about Debian? |
| 20:25.50 | unkmar | Now that is funny. |
| 20:25.51 | nebukad | debian is a kind of klinux and ubuntu is a kind of debian |
| 20:25.53 | deepa | ubuntu is a debian ripoff |
| 20:25.56 | gnude | ubuntu is for enduser, debian for professionals |
| 20:26.00 | shylent | hahaha, I am so going to use this |
| 20:26.07 | shylent | oh and debian for professionals |
| 20:26.21 | shylent | that's a nice one, gonna use it during the interview! |
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| 20:26.35 | shylent | it all depends on the way you say it, of course |
| 20:26.46 | nebukad | and linux is something for people who like to mess with their OS for hours before they can finally get to work |
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| 20:27.37 | Igneous | and windows is for people who like their os to not work at all ;) |
| 20:27.47 | nebukad | :) |
| 20:28.01 | unkmar | Igneous: windows works fine, as long as you don't throw stones at them. |
| 20:28.10 | shylent | windows 7 is not all *that* bad :P |
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| 20:28.20 | nebukad | i love how my little debian machine runs for years but i have to say taht windows7 works really well too |
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| 20:28.36 | shylent | I prefer big debian machines though |
| 20:28.45 | shylent | I've heard that size matters, so |
| 20:28.46 | pallgone | !windows |
| 20:28.46 | dpkg | "PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work." Support for Microsoft Windows operating systems is available at ##windows on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:28.56 | foetus | **ubuntu lays in trash and has been cranulated |
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| 20:29.24 | pallgone | heh, nice joke |
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| 20:30.05 | nebukad | a/c work with open windows it just a matter of size |
| 20:30.17 | nebukad | just like windows and RAM size |
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| 20:30.30 | Igneous | shudders |
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| 20:30.48 | unkmar | shudders are stronger than windows in a hurricane. |
| 20:31.09 | deepa | on an ontopic note |
| 20:31.26 | deepa | is my zcat no good? It keeps on telling me error writing to output, invalid argument when I do the boot.img.gz thhing |
| 20:31.45 | deepa | I'm using freebsd to attempt the USB installer trick |
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| 20:32.32 | foetus | maybe free-debian would be the better choice.. |
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| 20:32.45 | pallgone | deepa: gunzip the file and use dd? |
| 20:32.47 | foetus | :) |
| 20:33.38 | deepa | I've been doing that for the past 80 minutes now |
| 20:33.43 | deepa | and it's only a 1GB stick |
| 20:33.58 | shylent | maybe you should specify a larger blocksize |
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| 20:34.07 | shylent | since size matters, as we've figured out and all |
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| 20:34.22 | dkg | I've been told that I need a GNU. Could you help me find one? |
| 20:34.23 | deepa | Oh snap, I forgot to specify a blocksize |
| 20:34.44 | deepa | what's appropriate for a stick? |
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| 20:35.49 | thewanderer1 | deepa: the block size of stick |
| 20:36.19 | TMM | petemc, I got it working with a preseed file and ssh installer terminal :) |
| 20:36.19 | foetus | forget the blocksize. if gunzip fails, then there is something wrong with the file or the stick.. |
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| 20:36.50 | deepa | I don't know the blocksize of the stick |
| 20:37.00 | thewanderer1 | how to make the text in pidgin bigger? |
| 20:37.11 | deepa | foetus: gunzip did not fail |
| 20:37.24 | foetus | but? |
| 20:37.34 | deepa | But I forgot to specify a block size |
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| 20:37.58 | foetus | _ |
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| 20:39.37 | deepa | copying the isos over, here goes |
| 20:39.48 | deepa | moves the network cable over to the other pc |
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| 20:40.19 | inthl | how could one list the ip-adresses transmitting most packets via a NIC ? I mean something like to, which sorts those IPs and lists their count |
| 20:41.10 | amphi | iptraf perhaps |
| 20:41.28 | inthl | hm I don't know how to sort the IPs there like this |
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| 20:44.42 | amphi | inthl: s p if I recall correctly |
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| 20:46.27 | inthl | you mean: general interface _S_tatistics ..? there is no option P there |
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| 20:47.01 | inthl | oh there is in the normal statistics view |
| 20:47.07 | inthl | sort by .. something |
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| 20:48.29 | lelle | what font does xterm use? |
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| 20:49.59 | shylent | well, the one you configure it to use :S |
| 20:51.23 | lelle | but i havent configured it to use anything |
| 20:51.27 | shylent | afaik, it uses the 'standard' configfiles for X, like .Xresources and so on |
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| 20:52.16 | shylent | you can check man xterm (it is not pretty :P) for available settings and to actually get the font strings you can use xfontsel |
| 20:52.41 | shylent | you can also pass the appropriate parameters as commandline args to it |
| 20:52.47 | lelle | cant find the .Xdefault and i just want to find out what font is is =P |
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| 20:53.41 | thewanderer1 | I'm under awesome window manager. Some programs need gnome-settings-daemon to set a proper font, but this breaks window management to some extent (Iceweasel rendering gets really buggy) - what to do? |
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| 20:54.45 | thewanderer1 | hm, it works better after resetting the appearance... |
| 20:54.59 | thewanderer1 | so do I need this thing running to run GTK applications? |
| 20:55.04 | Texou | hey guys, Deb 5.0.6 is released :) |
| 20:55.58 | dvs | I didnt get the memo! |
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| 20:57.43 | thewanderer1 | ok, no more messing with fonts |
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| 20:58.06 | AusLoki | Hi, I have a problem with apache, php code does not execute it just shows the code? |
| 20:58.20 | AusLoki | I have php modules loader and handlers defined |
| 20:58.25 | AusLoki | s/loader/loaded |
| 20:58.34 | thewanderer1 | !php still wants me to download |
| 20:58.51 | thewanderer1 | !php wants me to download still |
| 20:58.51 | dpkg | The usual problem is your browser caching the content, so make sure you cleared your browser cache and restarted your browser and also verify that it's still a problem outside of your browser using wget, GET, curl, telnet, netcat etc. Do make sure you have carefully read <install php> and /usr/share/doc/php*-common/README.Debian.gz as well as many common problems are addressed. See also http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHPDownload |
| 20:59.00 | AusLoki | yeah, its not that |
| 20:59.31 | AusLoki | im setting it up on a "private server" on a shared host |
| 20:59.43 | AusLoki | so I didn't set up the environment, and have limited control over settings |
| 20:59.56 | AusLoki | I've tested that its not a browser issue though |
| 21:00.06 | AusLoki | do I have to do anything special if it is a virtual host |
| 21:00.36 | thewanderer1 | sorry, I don't know your environment, if it's not Debian or if it's a kludgy Debian then I'm not able to help |
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| 21:01.08 | AusLoki | its debian |
| 21:01.28 | thewanderer1 | so is PHP installed as a module or as CGI or FastCGI? |
| 21:01.36 | AusLoki | module |
| 21:01.49 | AusLoki | php5_module |
| 21:02.07 | thewanderer1 | have you run 'a2enmod php5'? |
| 21:02.10 | AusLoki | in my httpd it seems like just the module is loaded |
| 21:02.12 | AusLoki | and thats it |
| 21:02.33 | AusLoki | well, one of the ways my system is limited is that it does not have the a2enmod command.... |
| 21:02.47 | thewanderer1 | then you are not running Debian after all |
| 21:02.51 | AusLoki | sigh |
| 21:02.55 | AusLoki | your one of those people |
| 21:03.15 | thewanderer1 | man, Debian uses its own config file system for Apache2 |
| 21:03.28 | AusLoki | debian is not defined by the packages that are installed on a system |
| 21:03.37 | AusLoki | I *am* using debian, but without a few utilities |
| 21:03.40 | thewanderer1 | yes, but the default config is modular here |
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| 21:04.00 | thewanderer1 | so does the server signature show PHP module as loaded? |
| 21:04.02 | lelle | AusLoki, one of those people who think debian is much cooler than ubuntu ? lolol |
| 21:04.04 | AusLoki | the private server thing im on is basically a chroot/vserver thing |
| 21:04.14 | AusLoki | lelle: actually im a slacker, through and through |
| 21:04.20 | AusLoki | I dislike debian and ubuntu |
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| 21:04.36 | lelle | wat |
| 21:04.38 | AusLoki | I don't like an OS to babysit me.... |
| 21:04.46 | AusLoki | anyway, didn't come here to flame |
| 21:04.53 | lelle | but you like to use other peoples software |
| 21:05.03 | AusLoki | thewanderer1: yes, it shows it as loaded |
| 21:05.04 | lelle | i mean you think he was one of those people |
| 21:05.18 | thewanderer1 | AusLoki: what is your test case? <?php phpinfo(); ?> ? |
| 21:05.20 | AusLoki | even a basic phpinfo() returns nothing though, except the code |
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| 21:05.57 | thewanderer1 | AusLoki: I hope you are not using the deprecated <? /* shortened opening tag */ ?> |
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| 21:06.39 | _val_ | guys I'm getting this error on my email. /bin/sh: /var/etc/CCcamcheck.sh: Permission denied |
| 21:07.01 | thewanderer1 | _val_: because /var/etc/CCamcheck.sh is not executable by you |
| 21:07.02 | _val_ | Running debian. Any idea what permission rights to give to CCcamcheck.sh? |
| 21:07.11 | dvs | _val_: ls -l CCcamcheck.sh |
| 21:07.11 | AusLoki | thewanderer1: nope |
| 21:07.13 | _val_ | thewanderer1: group and owner is me |
| 21:07.21 | thewanderer1 | _val_: chmod +x |
| 21:07.26 | Ober7 | chmod =x ? |
| 21:07.33 | Ober7 | chmod +x |
| 21:07.44 | Ober7 | oh thewanderer1 beat me |
| 21:07.53 | thewanderer1 | AusLoki: then it's a mimetype problem, add the file extension or mimetype to the php handler |
| 21:07.54 | _val_ | dream@debian:/var/etc$ ls -l CCcamcheck.sh |
| 21:07.55 | _val_ | -rw-rw-rw- 1 dream dream 157 2010-09-02 21:10 CCcamcheck.sh |
| 21:08.06 | dvs | _val_: thats why |
| 21:08.08 | _val_ | allright.. so I'll +x it :) |
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| 21:08.30 | thewanderer1 | AusLoki: I don't know what kind of documentation you have there... could be in /usr/share/doc, or ask #slackware - they might really have more appropriate instructions if you are on that currently |
| 21:08.31 | _val_ | Ok thank you all, let me see what happens after 1 minute |
| 21:08.40 | _val_ | It is running this command from a crontjob |
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| 21:10.53 | _val_ | hmm aint getting email anymore |
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| 21:11.17 | thewanderer1 | how do I move the notification area from 1 screen to another in awesome WM? |
| 21:12.55 | lelle | still cant find the default X font :/ |
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| 21:16.36 | hramrach | hello |
| 21:16.53 | hramrach | can I have sound in Debian? |
| 21:17.08 | thewanderer1 | hramrach: yes, you can, in general |
| 21:17.28 | dvs | cant hear you |
| 21:17.33 | dvs | ;-) |
| 21:17.38 | hramrach | I tried OSS/bare alsa/jack/pulseaudio/esound and nothing works |
| 21:17.47 | thewanderer1 | for me, ALSA works |
| 21:17.55 | dvs | !alsa checklist |
| 21:17.55 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
| 21:17.56 | hramrach | I get sound in one app at best |
| 21:18.15 | thewanderer1 | did you do a manual Debian install with dpkg and wget or what? |
| 21:18.37 | hramrach | no, I want sound in more than one application |
| 21:18.55 | AusLoki | thewanderer1: ok, strange, now the php module is not loaded |
| 21:18.58 | AusLoki | when before it was |
| 21:19.05 | AusLoki | I get no error as to why it is not loading |
| 21:19.14 | thewanderer1 | hramrach: PulseAudio manages that (and breaks every 2 hours or so, at least here) |
| 21:19.21 | AusLoki | it is in the config file fine, the module is where it should be, but showing loaded modules does not include php |
| 21:19.28 | thewanderer1 | hramrach: you should search for some web pages on software mixing in ALSA |
| 21:19.39 | hramrach | yes, pulseaudio manages that provided it works which it deos not |
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| 21:20.10 | hramrach | supposedly it works as root acording the the bts but I did not manage to cnvince anything to use the deamon running as rot |
| 21:20.16 | thewanderer1 | hramrach: I have no idea what set of software you are using, but it sure as hell is not stable... |
| 21:20.24 | thewanderer1 | and you did something kludgy |
| 21:20.54 | thewanderer1 | are your users in "audio" group? |
| 21:20.54 | hramrach | yes, I installed a kernel too new to run OSS, that's kludgy |
| 21:20.59 | hramrach | yes |
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| 21:21.33 | thewanderer1 | yeah, go through the ALSA checklist |
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| 21:21.54 | hramrach | it works ok provided I don't want more than one app to have sound |
| 21:22.23 | thewanderer1 | sarge? etch? sid? |
| 21:22.34 | hramrach | squeeze |
| 21:23.13 | thewanderer1 | hm, I've never run into this problem - try software mixing in ALSA as described at *pick a random site from Google search results on "alsa software mixing"* |
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| 21:23.57 | hramrach | why can't the fscking alsa just work? |
| 21:24.04 | thewanderer1 | it just works for me... |
| 21:24.13 | dvs | me too |
| 21:24.19 | lelle | what is the default font of X? xterm uses it for example |
| 21:24.27 | hramrach | no, you have to google for software mic=xing |
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| 21:25.04 | thewanderer1 | I don't... it was a complete out-of-the-box (yeah, box...) experience :P |
| 21:25.26 | thewanderer1 | what you are running into might be specific to your hardware |
| 21:25.32 | hramrach | it's complete out-of-the-box breakage |
| 21:25.49 | thewanderer1 | for instance, the drivers in Linux might still be imperfect |
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| 21:26.05 | hramrach | I even have to load the modules manually after boot |
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| 21:26.17 | thewanderer1 | then it is most certainly a hardware problem |
| 21:26.28 | thewanderer1 | or rather a hardware<->software one |
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| 21:27.41 | hramrach | and the broken software is alsa |
| 21:28.34 | thewanderer1 | it is possible that ALSA has a bug, yes, but considering the fact that none of the mentioned sound systems work, I would suspect the hardware drivers themselves instead |
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| 21:29.51 | hramrach | the sound systems don't work because they are utter crap. esd was from the start, the current pulseaudio in Debian is broken, and jack sort of works but the tools are horrible and it won't work with wine |
| 21:30.42 | fhffhqvb | ah, bastard... my uptime rolled over again |
| 21:31.07 | JasonPilton | My goal is to run a terminal command that specifies a torrent file (or url) as a param and will spit out the current amount of seeds/peers for that particular torrent. Nothing more, nothing less. Anyone know if this is doable? Not looking for a full torrent client |
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| 21:31.48 | JasonPilton | unless there is a full torrent client that i can run minimal commands like what i just asked for with hehe |
| 21:31.58 | thewanderer1 | JasonPilton: you could ask ThePirateBay or someone who has a tracker, they might share some code if you begin your message with "Arrr"... |
| 21:32.11 | rusha | hello i encountered a problem when installing debian. I´m installed debian via drac ( there are two disks in this server). It confused me during the setup because the disks where called /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd ( i thought they should be called /dev/sda and /dev/sdb ). Well the whole installation went fine and the system rebootet. But now I come into a problem it gives me en error saying: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for */dev/.tmp-8-0.. Then it red |
| 21:32.32 | JasonPilton | thewanderer1: lol i c. |
| 21:33.18 | JasonPilton | yea i've installed some debian torrent packages/clients but they are all overkill for what i want to do. I can't just get meta info about a torrent without downloading the torrent/joinging the swarm like regular argh |
| 21:33.28 | fhffhqvb | JasonPilton: that's what torrentspy does on windows, except with graphics. |
| 21:33.47 | JasonPilton | torrentspy eh |
| 21:34.05 | fhffhqvb | ofcourse, you could build something using libtorrent. |
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| 21:34.31 | rusha | JasonPilton well you have to connect to the tracker to get the seeders/leechers. If you are just pointing some certain trackers i recommend you to connect to their http and retrieve the needed info from there |
| 21:35.11 | JasonPilton | fhffhqvb: Yea, i suppose that'll probably be the best. You happen to know of any code examples or can recommend a scripting language to use to accomplaigh this without abazillion lines of code? |
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| 21:35.35 | fhffhqvb | JasonPilton: not really. google for it, maybe someone else has done it before. |
| 21:36.00 | rusha | JasonPilton you can take irc for example ;) |
| 21:36.01 | JasonPilton | yea i've been trying, and am having trouble locating any concrete examples |
| 21:36.10 | rusha | sockets in there are very easy to code and retrieve the data |
| 21:36.19 | rusha | hold on i made such a script ( that checks torrentleech for new files ) |
| 21:36.33 | hramrach | well, there is software mixing that you can configure in alsa but I don't understand why it can't just do it on its own? it's not like it does not know that the card has only one output |
| 21:37.03 | JasonPilton | rusha: So ultimately, i send a web request to a tracker in a proper way with certain params and the tracker will spit out some info in the return response? |
| 21:37.25 | fhffhqvb | yay. sarge sources on archive.debian.org. |
| 21:37.26 | thewanderer1 | hramrach: perhaps your card is not widely known and nobody has coded autodetection for it? |
| 21:37.38 | rusha | yes |
| 21:37.50 | rusha | well |
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| 21:38.01 | rusha | you don`t contact the tracker you contact the homepage of that tracker |
| 21:38.07 | rusha | they are usualy updated |
| 21:38.34 | hramrach | it's the same crappy intel hda coded everybody has on their board |
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| 21:38.44 | thewanderer1 | hramrach: works for me |
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| 21:39.44 | JasonPilton | rusha: Think it would be easy to accomplish a function that would let me print out the IPs of all the connected seeds/peers? Like if Im using uTorrent and go to peers tab i can see all the IPs and the torrent client they are using etc |
| 21:40.16 | hramrach | it sure works if you paste a config file from the web to your home directory .. and every user of the system does the same |
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| 21:40.22 | hramrach | very nice |
| 21:40.47 | hramrach | thanks for the suggestion, though |
| 21:40.52 | thewanderer1 | /etc/asoundrc ? |
| 21:41.12 | rusha | http://stfu.pastebin.com/1P7f0k4t |
| 21:41.15 | rusha | heres a little example |
| 21:41.35 | rusha | you´d have to modify it for your needs and fill in your cookie information |
| 21:41.38 | rusha | but apart frm that it works ;) |
| 21:41.56 | thewanderer1 | just what is this? Perl? |
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| 21:42.36 | hramrach | thewanderer1: and that file is documented where? |
| 21:42.36 | JasonPilton | rusha: thanks! |
| 21:43.09 | thewanderer1 | hramrach: I don't know, probably scattered around the Interwebs |
| 21:43.43 | mmnicolas | how come is it legally accepted that OS X contains GNU bash and GNU nano ?, before this year i never touched a mac, and now each time it happens i am surprised at how i feel familiar with it as soon as i open a shell |
| 21:44.33 | mmnicolas | weird feeling for a product i hated so much, "Luke, i am your father.." |
| 21:44.48 | thewanderer1 | mmnicolas: as long as they are linked to libraries that permit this and Apple tells users where to get the sources, it's fine... but this is #debian anyway, just so you know |
| 21:44.50 | mmnicolas | sorry offtopic |
| 21:45.15 | hramrach | thewanderer1: actually it's /etc/asound.conf or any other random file the alsa config in /usr/share/alsa/ happens to load |
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| 21:45.29 | thewanderer1 | okay, I haven't used that in a while |
| 21:45.46 | mmnicolas | hrm, my understanding was that you can't bundle it without freeing the rest of the bundle, i guess i was wrong |
| 21:45.56 | Texou | no update of topic? |
| 21:46.09 | thewanderer1 | mmnicolas: you could talk about that at #gnu or so |
| 21:46.21 | thewanderer1 | they might know better |
| 21:46.22 | dvs | Texou: we're waiting for squeeze |
| 21:47.11 | Texou | dvs: ah ok :) I thought 5.0.6 would be added as now 5.0.5 isn't the last stable release |
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| 21:47.40 | foetus | right? |
| 21:47.41 | thewanderer1 | dpkg factoid needs updating, too |
| 21:47.42 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, thewanderer1 |
| 21:47.54 | dvs | you should! |
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| 21:48.24 | foetus | **starting links |
| 21:48.35 | xxtjaxx | hmm my quilt appears to be ignoring the orig.tar.gz file I put in .. what could be wrong? |
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| 21:49.57 | JasonPilton | rusha: Can I just call a file anything (i.e "vi some_code") paste that code in and just run it (i.e "./some_code")??? |
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| 21:50.31 | rusha | no like i told you this is a script for mirc |
| 21:50.32 | thewanderer1 | JasonPilton: you need the #!/path/to/interpreter line at the top and executable bit set on the file |
| 21:50.56 | thewanderer1 | unless you mean scripts for mirc :P |
| 21:51.51 | JasonPilton | thewanderer1: it's the code here http://stfu.pastebin.com/1P7f0k4t |
| 21:52.58 | thewanderer1 | unless you have an interpreter for it, no |
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| 22:33.34 | xxtjaxx | uhm do all *.cmake files have to go into cmake-data? |
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| 22:43.52 | *** topic/#debian by themill -> lenny (5.0.6) /msg dpkg 5.0.6 | etch no longer on mirrors: /msg dpkg etch->lenny | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | FAQ: http://bit.ly/DebFAQ | channel logs: http://bit.ly/DebFNDLog | Squeeze has been frozen: http://bit.ly/DebSqueezeFreeze |
| 22:44.00 | thewanderer1 | thx |
| 22:44.02 | themill | (topicdiff: 5.0.6 released today) |
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| 22:59.23 | CrazyFoam | apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng or approx? |
| 22:59.36 | thewanderer1 | CrazyFoam: apt-cacher-ng |
| 23:00.01 | CrazyFoam | thx |
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| 23:06.44 | lenswipe|laptop | hey guys |
| 23:06.59 | lenswipe|laptop | i have an xp machine with a DVD in the drive, i have a debian box with network access, how do i play the DVD over the network? |
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| 23:09.23 | MrFrood | lenswipe|laptop: I think vlc should be able to do that but I've no idea how |
| 23:09.49 | lenswipe|laptop | MrFrood, it doesnt work |
| 23:10.00 | lenswipe|laptop | 'Ubable to open smb://c01/D' |
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| 23:12.06 | MrFrood | yeah, whenever I've tried to set it up I'v given up in frudtration but it is the sort of thing that vlc should be able to do... |
| 23:13.04 | lenswipe|laptop | MrFrood, if i figure it out would you be interesting in knowning how i did it? |
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| 23:14.29 | MrFrood | lenswipe|laptop: me, no but my niece would love it if I could figure it out |
| 23:14.48 | lenswipe|laptop | well if i figure it out ill let you know |
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| 23:14.55 | lenswipe|laptop | of if i get help elsewhere with it :p |
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| 23:16.44 | MrFrood | good luck |
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| 23:17.46 | lenswipe|laptop | thx |
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| 23:24.44 | IanWizard | Yea!! Squeeze is coming! Squeeze is coming! :D |
| 23:25.17 | lenswipe|laptop | IanWizard, sounds like a description of someone giving birth |
| 23:25.34 | rvsjoen | nice analogy |
| 23:25.39 | lenswipe|laptop | thanks :) |
| 23:25.40 | rvsjoen | thanks for the mental image :P |
| 23:26.11 | IanWizard | lol |
| 23:27.51 | lenswipe|laptop | np |
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| 23:29.38 | IanWizard | Ok, so I'm on Ubuntu, but becoming very dissatisfied with the bloat, so I've decided to migrate to Debian. But I'm on an encrypted partition, so I have to use a separate /boot partition. What do I need to do to use the same partition as Ubuntu. What do I need to do to keep the grub / kernel / initdisk from interfering. |
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| 23:30.49 | IanWizard | Is it sufficient to just run update-grub to figure out the new kernels? Or should I just configure the Debian (or Ubuntu) entries by hand? |
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| 23:31.44 | lenswipe|laptop | MrFrood, im about 1/2 way to figuring it out |
| 23:31.54 | lenswipe|laptop | MrFrood, i can only get the audio to come accross |
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| 23:34.03 | IanWizard | Nobody Grub smart in here? |
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| 23:34.29 | lenswipe|laptop | definately isnt |
| 23:34.53 | IanWizard | lenswipe|laptop: it's ok, I like your name. |
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| 23:35.07 | lenswipe|laptop | lol |
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| 23:35.19 | lenswipe|laptop | IanWizard, theres lenswipe|debian too |
| 23:35.24 | IanWizard | If you don't know anything, just come up with a cool name to distract people |
| 23:36.00 | IanWizard|suse | for accuracy |
| 23:36.13 | IanWizard|suse | I;m sorry, to be accurate |
| 23:37.10 | IanWizard|openSU | it won't take IanWizard|openSUSE, it cuts it off |
| 23:37.13 | lenswipe|laptop | IanWizard|openSU, lol |
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| 23:37.31 | lenswipe|laptop | IanWizard|openSU, did you know that 5 out of 3 people cant do fractions? |
| 23:37.39 | IanWizard|openSu | lol |
| 23:37.49 | IanWizard|openSu | lenswipe|laptop: I've heard that |
| 23:37.53 | lenswipe|laptop | lol |
| 23:37.59 | lenswipe|laptop | probly from me :p |
| 23:38.21 | IanWizard|openSu | lenswipe|laptop: did you know that 47.529% of statistics are made up on the spot. |
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| 23:39.10 | lenswipe|laptop | yeah |
| 23:39.33 | lenswipe|laptop | IanWizard|openSu, did you know that 12% of all internet users are under the age of 14 and "leik mudkipz" |
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| 23:41.13 | IanWizard | lenswipe|laptop: did you know that 99% of irc channels contain largely off topic conversation? |
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| 23:41.40 | lenswipe|laptop | IanWizard, that statistic is made up |
| 23:41.43 | lenswipe|laptop | only this one |
| 23:41.44 | lenswipe|laptop | :P |
| 23:42.23 | IanWizard | nope, it's even worse over at htc-evo |
| 23:42.58 | lenswipe|laptop | orly? lol |
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| 23:44.23 | IanWizard | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.31 | IanWizard | bye all. |
| 23:44.55 | IanWizard | oh, does anyone know of a good embedded channel? |
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| 23:46.26 | IanWizard | join #ubuntu |
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| 23:46.49 | IanWizard | oh, sorry |
| 23:47.15 | xuser | good luck |
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