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| 00:13.58 | Mowee | Hi |
| 00:14.31 | Mowee | Im looking for a script/soft which can help me to find values from output/input of the bandwith (eth0) |
| 00:14.45 | Mowee | I just need value, to make a table on time |
| 00:16.30 | dondelelcaro | Mowee: /proc/net/dev |
| 00:18.47 | Mowee | dondelelcaro, thank you :x Didnt think about this |
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| 01:03.31 | magicblaze0071 | i've a centos machine for which I've ssh access. Is there a way I can install debian on it remotely? |
| 01:04.17 | magicblaze0071 | are CDs the best way to install debian? |
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| 01:06.18 | pitlimit | how do I install the manpages on debian? |
| 01:06.32 | ems | pitlimit, it was CD5 I think |
| 01:06.50 | pitlimit | I'm sorry ems but I do not know waht that means |
| 01:06.54 | ems | magicblaze0071, i think so. in my opinion |
| 01:07.01 | ems | pitlimit; do you have the CDS? |
| 01:08.04 | liable | magicblaze0071: if you have an empty partition, you can do a debootstrap install |
| 01:08.15 | liable | centos should have debootstrap |
| 01:09.02 | pitlimit | no |
| 01:09.14 | pitlimit | ems is there no ... like... repository? |
| 01:09.57 | ems | pitlimit, i have no idea. i just installed debian. you could try aptitude with the man |
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| 01:11.26 | chops1 | So after an upgrade to lenny, my mailman scripts aren't working... on examining /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian, I have one question: Is this all for real, or an elaborate prank? :-/ |
| 01:12.45 | magicblaze0071 | ems: not yet...want to download now |
| 01:13.12 | qq- | !netinst |
| 01:13.13 | dpkg | hmm... netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 01:14.03 | qq- | !ssh install |
| 01:14.03 | dpkg | somebody said ssh install was http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch06s03#network-console (obsolete article at http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html). See also <hd-media>, <debootstrap>. |
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| 01:16.07 | thepro4ever | Bushmills: I tried warzone2100 and I loved it! |
| 01:16.53 | thepro4ever | Bushmills: you know any other good ones?? |
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| 01:20.16 | chops1 | Hm... can someone who's running sid verify that /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian still contains "MAILMAN_HOME=/var/lib/mailman" and "MAILMAN_WRAP=MAILMAN_HOME/mail/mailman"? That's wrong; it should be /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman now. I can file the bug if a sid user can check that it still exists (I don't have a sid system handy right now). |
| 01:22.11 | chops1 | Oh, I see... there's still a symlink |
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| 01:42.10 | cwheeler | Hi I need to install a 32 bit libnotify on 64 bit ubuntu/debian how do I do this? |
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| 01:43.27 | DogBoy | why do you need to do that |
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| 01:47.02 | m0tan | I'm trying to setup my Nvidia drivers but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only asks what keyboard i want to use - how do I get it to reconfigure video driver? |
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| 01:49.14 | m0tan | is it a bug? |
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| 01:50.41 | m0tan | i think i figured it out |
| 01:50.55 | liable | !drxx |
| 01:50.55 | dpkg | For Lenny onwards, ask me about <xorg config> <xorg config lenny> <xorg config squeeze>. For Etch, ask me about <etch->lenny>. |
| 01:51.12 | liable | !xorg config squeeze |
| 01:51.13 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, you can often use an <empty xorg.conf>. Configure your keyboard layout for both X and console in /etc/default/console-setup or "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" (not xorg.conf). If you have further things you wish to configure, use "X -configure" ("X -configure :1" if server is already active) to produce a xorg.conf template. Ask me about <xorg hal>. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide |
| 01:53.32 | pitlimit | is stdout guaranteed to be fd 1? |
| 01:53.38 | qq- | !nvidia m-a , motan |
| 01:53.39 | pitlimit | unless I mess with it |
| 01:53.43 | liable | also i think the nvidia drivers have their own config thing |
| 01:53.51 | qq- | !nvidia m-a |
| 01:53.51 | dpkg | [nvidia m-a] For Lenny and Squeeze users. Ensure you have <non-free sources> added. "aptitude install module-assistant && m-a a-i nvidia-kernel". After successful module compilation, "aptitude install nvidia-glx nvidia-xconfig && nvidia-xconfig -o /etc/X11/xorg.conf". See also <nvidia>, <nvidia dkms>. |
| 01:55.50 | MrFrood | hmmm, dpkg is fibing |
| 01:56.21 | m0tan | ok ill try it. |
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| 01:58.06 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | i have installed mozilla-plugin-gnash. some videos seem to work.. is there a workout for youtube? |
| 01:59.13 | m0tan | looks like it worked out thanks |
| 02:01.20 | rphillips | i'm trying to fetch the debian git source package, but it appears apt-get is borking on the hyphen: apt-get source git-core |
| 02:01.38 | rphillips | anybody know what the magic sauce is? |
| 02:03.01 | MrFrood | rphillips: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html |
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| 02:04.28 | rphillips | MrFrood: section 7.13? |
| 02:04.34 | MrFrood | yup |
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| 02:05.45 | rphillips | i did that... the apt-get command pulls down gnuit |
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| 02:06.22 | sweetandy | I was posed an interesting question at a LUG yesterday |
| 02:06.51 | sweetandy | If aptitude is in the process of installing packages it has downloaded, and power is suddenly lost, what happens when the system is started backup? |
| 02:06.55 | MrFrood | you have have got the source repositories in your sources.list |
| 02:07.42 | rphillips | ok, thanks for that clue... I had the main src repository, but not the backports source repo |
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| 02:12.10 | manchot | how to tunnel all traffic through a remote ssh server? |
| 02:12.51 | manchot | I am behind a firewall and only http traffic is allowed. And I have a remote ssh server. |
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| 02:15.10 | Backup | something that needed libglu1-mesa before, but now spits out a warning about glu beeing outdated and i should be using opengl instead. what would be the natural replacement for that? |
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| 02:25.38 | MrFrood | manchot: are you looking for something like MindTerm (web based ssh)? |
| 02:27.36 | manchot | MrFrood, that might all do. Although I don't know exactly how to tunnel traffic under it. |
| 02:28.17 | manchot | MrFrood, the situation is: all traffic is blocked except http 80 |
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| 02:30.24 | MrFrood | MindTerm can be run on a webserver you have access to and offers ssh on a webpage I understand it supports tunneling but you would have to read the docs |
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| 02:33.29 | manchot | MrFrood, thank you. |
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| 02:35.54 | fredden | anyone else having issues with backports since the move to debian proper? I'm getting this: Failed to fetch http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/etch-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 MD5Sum mismatch |
| 02:37.25 | smacnay | whatever happened to Figaro Password Manager and... darn, can;t remember the name of the other one (Gnome app)? They are no longer in the sid repository. |
| 02:40.33 | smacnay | revelation |
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| 02:41.27 | smacnay | revelation is in the repository but Figaro2 is not. |
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| 02:45.05 | m0tan | !nvidia |
| 02:45.06 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 02:47.44 | magyarlatin | hello everyone |
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| 02:48.11 | magyarlatin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:50.42 | qq- | , versions pydev |
| 02:50.43 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'pydev' was found. |
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| 02:51.43 | andre_pl | is there a way to get a listing of /dev/sdX -> Make/model of drive? |
| 02:52.33 | magyarlatin | judd, http://packages.debian.org/sid/eclipse-pydev |
| 02:53.05 | qq- | , versions eclipse-pydev |
| 02:53.06 | magyarlatin | judd, I have installed and I cant still create a python project with eclipse |
| 02:53.06 | judd | eclipse-pydev -- sid: 1.2.5-4 |
| 02:53.35 | qq- | magyarlatin, judd is a bot only |
| 02:53.48 | magyarlatin | qq-, XD thank you for telling me |
| 02:54.01 | qq- | np |
| 02:54.17 | magyarlatin | qq-, I have installed eclipse and eclipse-pydev and still cant create a python project with eclipse IDE |
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| 03:01.31 | ems | is there an email client like outlook but for linux, that can do more then one or two email accounts at the same time |
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| 03:04.52 | liable | thunderbird works for me |
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| 03:05.31 | MrFrood | ems: though I am a Pine/Alpine man myself I think evolution may be what your looking for |
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| 03:06.27 | ems | Thanks MrFrood, I am new to this. but windows is no more thats a plus |
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| 03:06.50 | ems | it is so clogged up |
| 03:06.53 | ems | eats my memory |
| 03:06.55 | ems | like no tomorrow |
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| 03:09.24 | qiyong | how to change my gnome desktop language? |
| 03:09.25 | smacnay | ems, I have used Evolution and Thunderbird/Icedove with the "iceowl" plugin and they both work for me. |
| 03:12.03 | elkclone | qiyong: try system keyboard layout |
| 03:12.35 | ems | i have one more question |
| 03:12.42 | MrFrood | and pine/alpine have been working for me for well over a decade but they are probally not for a new user |
| 03:12.47 | thepro4ever | exit |
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| 03:13.24 | ems | Logitech Webcam C250 USB 2.0 Web Cam, i bought this today and it will arrive soon. I hope I bought the right one, this will work with linux I hope? |
| 03:13.44 | liable | ems: best to consult google on that one |
| 03:13.49 | qiyong | elkclone, i want to change the LANG var |
| 03:14.12 | mjmt | qiyong: Do that in /etc/default/locale. |
| 03:14.13 | cafuego | qiyong: You can do 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and set a new default |
| 03:15.19 | cafuego | qiyong: Or you can set it in your own ~/.profile if you want to not affect it for other users. |
| 03:15.34 | qiyong | mjmt, /etc/environment /etc/default/locale, which is the right place? |
| 03:15.46 | mjmt | qiyong: /etc/environment is deprecated for that. |
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| 03:16.25 | qiyong | mjmt, is this in some standard? or other distros follow? |
| 03:16.29 | cafuego | qiyong: Be sure you have the right lang pack and font(s) installed for gnome |
| 03:17.44 | mjmt | qiyong: Not sure sorry. |
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| 03:18.15 | cafuego | qiyong: other distros likely do it differently, unless they're based off Debian. |
| 03:18.19 | qiyong | since when environment was deprecated? mjmt |
| 03:18.28 | mjmt | cafuego: Is there some kind of GUI way of doing this for a user's GNOME session? |
| 03:18.29 | cafuego | ie; ubuntu will do the same, Fedora differently. |
| 03:19.44 | cafuego | mjmt: On my gdm login screen I can pick a language |
| 03:19.51 | mjmt | Ahh right yeah. |
| 03:19.54 | ems | liable: " It seems like all of the Logitech C webcams work with GNU/Linux. I hope this help GNU/Linux users." |
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| 03:20.33 | cafuego | <3 ssd :-) |
| 03:20.59 | qiyong | since when environment was deprecated? |
| 03:21.12 | qiyong | year or version? |
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| 03:25.25 | spyroboy | I have an issue involving nspluginwrapper. |
| 03:25.59 | spyroboy | installing the flash player plugin through nspluginwrapper fails, and using -v for verbose output I learn that libraries are missing. |
| 03:26.09 | spyroboy | the libraries aren't actually missing on the system |
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| 03:26.34 | spyroboy | if I run ldd on the 32-bit flash plugin, ldd will successfully detect the libraries on my system |
| 03:26.49 | spyroboy | but if I do nspluginwrapper -i libflashwhatever.so |
| 03:26.58 | spyroboy | it fails to find the 32-bit libraries |
| 03:27.04 | spyroboy | completely arbitrary |
| 03:27.13 | spyroboy | any suggestions? |
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| 03:27.48 | spyroboy | I can provide a pastie showing the outputs of nspluginwrapper and ldd, if you'd like. |
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| 03:31.44 | qq- | http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 03:57.36 | spyroboy | pretty sure it's working qq- thanks |
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| 04:26.10 | PyroPhelia | I've got a sick server and I need some help. As my server is booting up the kernel never fully loads. it drops down into a busybox ram disk because one of the raid6s can't be built. once i'm in the ramdisk is it possible to mount the filesystem and kernel? |
| 04:26.48 | PyroPhelia | the easist way is to just reinstall deb on the OS drive but there has to be another way |
| 04:27.43 | PyroPhelia | also, I made a mistake of building my raid with /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 so every time the system boots mdadm looks for sda instead of sda1. how do I fix that? |
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| 04:30.40 | tehrabbitt-1 | hey quick question... ever since I ran "apt-get update / Upgrade" the titlebars of all my windows are screwed up.... i'm running squeeze btw |
| 04:30.52 | tehrabbitt-1 | has anyone else seen this happen? |
| 04:31.18 | tehrabbitt-1 | like google chrome for instance, has a double titlebar, the one that comes with chrome (where the tabs are) and then another generic white one from KDE on top of it |
| 04:31.31 | tehrabbitt-1 | same with KVirc, and everythign else... |
| 04:31.47 | tehrabbitt-1 | tried to change the "theme" in QT4 GUI and all it does is change the fonts, but not the theme |
| 04:33.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 04:37.41 | tehrabbitt-1 | does anyone know how to get the KDE themes workign again? |
| 04:40.26 | sedulous | tehrabbitt-1: even after logging out and back in? |
| 04:40.31 | tehrabbitt-1 | Yes. |
| 04:40.32 | sedulous | (i'm not familiar with KDE at all) |
| 04:40.34 | sedulous | ok |
| 04:40.35 | tehrabbitt-1 | ah |
| 04:41.00 | tehrabbitt-1 | I noticed that if I go into the "Aurorae theme engine" through system tools, I can modify it, but chrome still seems "Screwed up" |
| 04:41.02 | sedulous | does anyone know where to find a ia32-libs-gtk package that is compatible with the latest ia32-libs package in sid? |
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| 04:42.51 | tehrabbitt-1 | what's a good resource monitor that will run on my desktop for KDE? |
| 04:43.53 | sweetpi | tehrabbitt-1: if chrome is the only problem, chromes settings allow you to specify what type of window decoration gets used. one option is double titlebars(basically) |
| 04:44.10 | tehrabbitt-1 | hm, where would I change that option? |
| 04:44.30 | sweetpi | one sec |
| 04:45.26 | tehrabbitt-1 | ah i found it |
| 04:45.38 | tehrabbitt-1 | "use GTK+" or "hide system titlebars" |
| 04:45.51 | tehrabbitt-1 | I guess the update/upgrade changed settings or something? |
| 04:46.48 | sweetpi | yeah "hide system titlebars". ive had the same problem after switching between chromium and google-chrome |
| 04:47.05 | tehrabbitt-1 | lol what causes the setting to change like that? |
| 04:48.01 | sweetpi | my guess was they shared configs or "upgrading" the config borked something |
| 04:49.46 | sweetpi | I didnt really investigate since I was getting rid of it |
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| 04:52.40 | tehrabbitt-1 | ah lol |
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| 04:56.06 | compaq | I am having trouble with compiz, it say no whitelisted driver. I followed the instructions: http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz |
| 04:56.32 | tholl583xx | ive recently updated with a dist-upgrade and denyhosts is not starting, anyone seen similar with squeeze |
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| 05:15.55 | sprink | I have a very small server, 1.6 ghz, 1gb ram, that runs debian 5 without X |
| 05:16.20 | sprink | do you think I could get away with running a vps on that, using openvz? |
| 05:16.41 | sprink | the vps would also run debian |
| 05:16.47 | dondelelcaro | sprink: no reason why not |
| 05:17.01 | sprink | Don't think its too under powered? |
| 05:17.31 | dondelelcaro | sprink: depends what you're doing with it |
| 05:17.45 | dondelelcaro | I've run virtual machines with less hardware, and I've run them with lots more |
| 05:18.37 | sprink | I wont be doing anything but personal projects. basic LAMP, but very little activity |
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| 05:18.59 | sprink | I've never virtualized anything but I was under the assumption it required a lot of "horsepower" |
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| 05:19.51 | sprink | dondelelcaro: if the virtualized OS was rooted, could the host machine be accessed? |
| 05:20.21 | sprink | sorry, I know this isnt #vm or #openvz but they're not very active |
| 05:20.24 | PyroPhelia | how do I mount disks when i'm in a busybox ramdisk? |
| 05:20.51 | PyroPhelia | i'm trying to mount my boot partition to take a look at my grub conf but it keeps telling me "failed: No such file or directory |
| 05:22.01 | PyroPhelia | the dirs in the ram disk have been created |
| 05:22.06 | PyroPhelia | what am I doing wrong? |
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| 05:30.31 | Neo|Desktop | greetings everyone |
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| 05:33.13 | DipSwitch | Goodmorning mister desktop |
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| 05:41.15 | Neo|Desktop | i seem to be having an openssh-server problem. I just got a vps installed from my host's template, and appearently their sshd_config.conf file is intresting :p When connecting to my server via PuTTY, i keep getting a 'Network Error: Permission Denied', and i'm not sure what was changed between my host's template and the upstream package |
| 05:42.03 | tholl583xx | Neo|Desktop: are you connecting as root? |
| 05:42.38 | Neo|Desktop | tholl583xx: yes, and connecting without any username brings the same error |
| 05:42.43 | DipSwitch | Maybe root account is disabled over ssh |
| 05:42.57 | tholl583xx | you could check in sshd_Cofnig that root is allowed, or connect as a normal user and sudo when required |
| 05:43.00 | DipSwitch | but i think you should take a look at /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny |
| 05:43.05 | Neo|Desktop | ah |
| 05:43.25 | DipSwitch | I guess you have access trough the website of the vps host |
| 05:43.29 | Neo|Desktop | right |
| 05:43.30 | liable | or is it keys only? |
| 05:44.11 | Neo|Desktop | ok, i'm in the console now |
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| 05:45.17 | Neo|Desktop | DipSwitch: hosts.allow/deny are both empty except for the standard comments |
| 05:45.41 | Neo|Desktop | liable: i'll add my ssh key, just to cover the bases |
| 05:45.58 | DipSwitch | also check iptables -L |
| 05:46.12 | tholl583xx | denyhosts service is not starting on either my squeeze or lenny boxes since I updated the packages on friday, if I uninstall the package with "apt-get --purge remove denyhosts" and then reinstall it works, any way to find out what is the problem without uninstall and re-install? |
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| 05:46.30 | tholl583xx | (nothing in logs at all) |
| 05:46.44 | DipSwitch | maybe also check the faq of the vps host :) |
| 05:48.26 | DipSwitch | tholl583xx, try running /etc/init.d/denyhosts |
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| 05:49.12 | tholl583xx | # /etc/init.d/denyhosts |
| 05:49.12 | tholl583xx | Usage: /etc/init.d/denyhosts {start|stop|restart|force-reload} (warning). |
| 05:49.19 | DipSwitch | + start |
| 05:50.16 | DipSwitch | else you might want to try and use: update-rc.d denyhosts defaults |
| 05:50.16 | Neo|Desktop | hmmm |
| 05:50.23 | Neo|Desktop | ashley:~/.ssh# scp root@<hostname>:~/.ssh/authorized_keys ./ |
| 05:50.23 | Neo|Desktop | Host key verification failed. |
| 05:50.42 | Neo|Desktop | ^^ could that have something to do with my ssh problems :3 |
| 05:52.24 | liable | have you moved the host from another box? |
| 05:52.52 | liable | if you have that domainname in your authiresed_keys file from another box it would do that |
| 05:54.46 | Neo|Desktop | liable: i haven't moved the host, i'm just trying to ssh/scp into the box that has my authorized_keys file, and its throwing me that error |
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| 06:00.43 | systemfault | Sorry if it's a noob question but... should I consider "testing" as being a kind of rolling release? |
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| 06:02.36 | liable | sortof, untill it freezes for imminent release |
| 06:03.04 | PyroPhelia | any mdadm guru's here? |
| 06:03.34 | systemfault | liable: I see :) That might just be what I need, good :) |
| 06:04.08 | Neo|Desktop | hmm, how can i get the stock openssh-server config going? |
| 06:04.14 | DogBoy | except for it not being a release |
| 06:04.19 | DogBoy | heh |
| 06:05.17 | systemfault | The only "problem" I can see with Debian so far is if my system depends on a kernel module provided only by a newer kernel |
| 06:05.33 | systemfault | Beside that, it does look like testing would be perfect for me. |
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| 06:07.28 | Parsifal | systemfault: You can always build your own kernel or pull a newer one from experimental if you really need to |
| 06:07.52 | systemfault | True :) |
| 06:08.16 | Parsifal | I build my own kernel anyway, I like being able to tune it |
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| 06:08.59 | systemfault | I used to do that a few years ago but nowadays I don't really compile anything else but my own projects :/ |
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| 06:18.35 | talcite | hey guys. Can anyone suggest a debian friendly asterisk front-end please? |
| 06:19.05 | talcite | I'm trying to use freepbx, but it's pretty terribly written and definitely not repo-friendly. I'm having a heck of a time trying to get it working |
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| 06:35.25 | DogBoy | talcite, what's the matter with just using asterisk |
| 06:36.33 | talcite | DogBoy: I've got a bunch of people who are going to be configuring this after me, and they have much less experience/patience than I do |
| 06:36.33 | DogBoy | it's pretty straightforward |
| 06:36.49 | talcite | I should say administering*, not configuring |
| 06:37.14 | DogBoy | sounds like a recipe for problems |
| 06:37.32 | talcite | yep. They're probably going to end up extending my contract after I leave or something |
| 06:37.52 | DogBoy | you should be asking about this in #asterisk |
| 06:38.01 | talcite | I have no clue how they're going to keep everything running. Just the firewall configs are throwing them for a loop. Forget the infiniband/iscsi =S |
| 06:38.06 | talcite | hmm ok. Thanks for the heads up |
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| 07:03.46 | sprink | I just installed the 2.6.26-2-openvz-686 kernel and booted into it |
| 07:03.53 | sprink | and now i can't login to root |
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| 07:04.13 | sprink | if I use sudo passwd root to change the root password |
| 07:04.17 | sprink | I still cant login |
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| 07:05.41 | sprink | Any help? |
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| 07:08.49 | Zyferus | reinstall and remember the root pass this time? |
| 07:09.04 | sprink | no no |
| 07:09.11 | sprink | you don't understand |
| 07:09.21 | sprink | I've had this system running for years |
| 07:09.22 | l0st-soul | sprink: dont you have smth like "PermitRootLogin no" in your sshd_config |
| 07:09.23 | l0st-soul | ? |
| 07:09.40 | Zyferus | i am just messin, you upgraded the kernal and root says 'FU!' |
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| 07:10.18 | HardDisk_WP | hi |
| 07:10.29 | HardDisk_WP | i have 23 files in /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 07:10.40 | HardDisk_WP | how do I create symlinks for each of them in sites-enabled? |
| 07:10.47 | HardDisk_WP | dont want to do this by hand for all of em |
| 07:11.01 | sprink | l0st-soul: would that prevent me from logging in as root if I first logged in using a user account? |
| 07:11.13 | sprink | as in, ssh blah.org -l sprink |
| 07:11.15 | sprink | logged in |
| 07:11.16 | sprink | and then su |
| 07:11.45 | sprink | oh well, i shall find out |
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| 07:14.40 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 07:14.50 | xxtjaxx | Hi there! Is there a way to tell live-build/live-helper to ignore it when packages couldn't be authenticated? |
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| 07:17.07 | gypsymauro | there is a way to install flash plugin on squeeze 64 bit? I tried to follow the wiki page instruction but it fails |
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| 07:17.31 | xxtjaxx | gypsymauro: what did it say? |
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| 07:28.02 | gypsymauro | xxtjaxx: I downloaded the .so from adobe site and I put it in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins but it doesn't load it and I dunno where to look for errors |
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| 07:28.24 | sprink | this is the weirdest damn thing ever |
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| 07:28.35 | sprink | can the root password not be reset from sudo? |
| 07:28.54 | sprink | maybe pam is broke? |
| 07:29.15 | xxtjaxx | gypsymauro: that definitely didnt stand in the debian wiki and is one relly wierd improbable fix. see the wiki.debian.org for more information on how to do it properly |
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| 07:30.04 | xxtjaxx | gypsymauro: see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 07:30.35 | sprink | l0st-soul: I cant login to root locally either |
| 07:30.41 | sprink | any more ideas? |
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| 07:33.26 | xxtjaxx | my live-builder quits with an error on lh build because apt-utils cant be authenticated (this is squeeze) should this be an RC Bug agains lh or against apt-utils? |
| 07:34.51 | l0st-soul | a sudo is ok you said |
| 07:35.01 | l0st-soul | nothing in the logs when you try to su ? |
| 07:35.49 | sprink | I check the auth logs and it shows my successfully logging in using su |
| 07:36.07 | sprink | and then minutes later, it shows all my failed su attempts |
| 07:36.15 | sprink | with no password changes in between |
| 07:36.22 | l0st-soul | and it states bad password? |
| 07:36.27 | sprink | yup |
| 07:36.45 | sprink | even if I change the password with sudo, it still says bad password |
| 07:36.56 | pallgone | sprink: use init=/bin/bash as kernel pw and change the root pw? |
| 07:37.08 | pallgone | ehm, s/pw/parameter/ |
| 07:38.03 | l0st-soul | weird indeed, cant it be some kind of azerty/qwerty confusion ? |
| 07:39.09 | jelly-home | sprink: anything non-default in your /etc/pam.d/{su,common*} ? |
| 07:39.11 | sprink | pallgone: I'll try that as a last resort (rebooting) |
| 07:39.38 | jelly-home | sprink: which debian release is this?\ |
| 07:39.44 | sprink | lenny |
| 07:40.31 | sprink | jelly-home: I haven't edited any of that stuff by hand |
| 07:40.36 | sprink | if thats what you're asking |
| 07:40.46 | jelly-home | pretty much, yes |
| 07:40.46 | sprink | nothing looks suspicious in there |
| 07:41.27 | gypsymauro | xxtjaxx: yes I tried that but it fails on the last step: flashplugin-nonfree depends on ia32-libs-gtk; however: Package ia32-libs-gtk is not installed. |
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| 07:42.18 | jelly-home | ,versions ia32-libs-gtk |
| 07:42.19 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ia32-libs-gtk' was found. |
| 07:42.24 | jelly-home | ,versions ia32-libs-gtk --arch amd64 |
| 07:42.25 | judd | ia32-libs-gtk -- etch-multimedia: 2.0etch2; lenny-multimedia: 2.0etch2; etch-backports: 2.2~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.7; sid: 20090804; squeeze: 20090804 |
| 07:42.34 | sprink | jelly-home: maybe something to do with changing kernels? |
| 07:42.40 | gypsymauro | I installed it but then it fails with flashplugin-nonfree depends on nspluginwrapper (>= 0.9.91.4-3); however: Package nspluginwrapper is not installed. |
| 07:42.44 | sprink | I installed and booted into the openvz kernel |
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| 07:42.56 | gypsymauro | and nspluginwrapper doesn't exists |
| 07:43.07 | jelly-home | sprink: I've no idea why that would matter, but you can always check by booting the old one |
| 07:43.36 | gypsymauro | .versions nspluginwrapper --arch amd64 |
| 07:43.44 | gypsymauro | ,versions nspluginwrapper --arch amd64 |
| 07:43.45 | judd | nspluginwrapper -- etch-backports/contrib: 0.9.91.5-2~bpo40+1; lenny/contrib: 0.9.91.5-2; sid/contrib: 1.3.0-1; squeeze/contrib: 1.3.0-1 |
| 07:43.51 | gypsymauro | doh.. |
| 07:44.02 | gypsymauro | contrib |
| 07:44.13 | xxtjaxx | gypsymauro: you had main only in sources.list didnt you? :) |
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| 07:44.32 | gypsymauro | blushes |
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| 07:45.58 | m0tan | O |
| 07:46.56 | m0tan | I'm trying to run apt-file update (apt-file 2.1.5) and getting an error 'Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-amd64.gz |
| 07:46.56 | m0tan | ' ???? i've tried changing this to another address (ftp) and i get the same message |
| 07:47.28 | gypsymauro | xxtjaxx: I hope that nash will reach a stable level soooon |
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| 07:48.07 | gypsymauro | or better that html5 became a standard :) |
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| 07:51.02 | m0tan | meh i just commented the two shotty lines out and ran it and it did it fine. hopefully it wont cause any issues. |
| 07:51.04 | m0tan | thx. |
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| 07:52.01 | sprink | Is it not possible to reset the root password from sudo? |
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| 07:52.25 | dimir | sure it is |
| 07:52.55 | sprink | I open a root shell with 'sudo -i' |
| 07:53.12 | sprink | and I get root, verified by 'id' |
| 07:53.18 | sprink | I change password with passwd |
| 07:53.25 | sprink | exit, and su |
| 07:53.30 | sprink | and still says passwd is wrong |
| 07:53.59 | xxtjaxx | gypsymauro: it is a standard and was one from the beginning. Implementing is the question |
| 07:55.58 | dimir | sprink: well it is strange maybe your su pam configuration is to check. |
| 07:56.01 | Dewi | xxtjaxx: no, it's a draft specification |
| 07:56.52 | dimir | sprink: just tried here and it worked with 'sudo -i' like a charm, I changed root password and was able to 'su -' |
| 07:56.55 | dimir | with new one. |
| 07:57.19 | Dewi | xxtjaxx: it will become a standard when W3C "recommends" (approves) it |
| 07:57.35 | sprink | dimir: :( |
| 07:57.55 | xxtjaxx | Dewi: ah thought that happened already. with all the buzz around it |
| 08:00.08 | Dewi | xxtjaxx: yeah it has a lot of momentum now; I deliberately said "when" rather than "if". It got upgraded from "working draft" to "editor's draft" 3 days ago which is another step closer |
| 08:00.47 | Dewi | I... think. :) I really don't know what it means |
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| 08:19.33 | sprink | I can login to root locally, from console |
| 08:19.44 | sprink | but I can't 'su' from any user accounts |
| 08:20.10 | jelly-home | sprink: oh btw, can you su from user1 to user2? |
| 08:20.27 | jelly-home | both non root? |
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| 08:21.11 | sprink | let me try |
| 08:21.52 | sprink | jelly-home: guess not |
| 08:21.56 | sprink | reinstall su? |
| 08:22.15 | ansgar | sprink: Maybe pam_wheel is enabled in /etc/pam.d/su? Or some other restriction. |
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| 08:22.44 | ansgar | sprink: What does the log say? |
| 08:22.48 | jelly-home | sprink: ls -l `which su` |
| 08:23.17 | jelly-home | (missing setuid bit?) |
| 08:23.32 | sprink | ansgar: nope |
| 08:23.39 | sprink | ansgar: which log? |
| 08:23.57 | sprink | jelly-home: /bin/su |
| 08:24.03 | sprink | with suidbit |
| 08:24.05 | ansgar | sprink: auth.log |
| 08:24.10 | sprink | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 27108 2009-11-14 09:41 /bin/su |
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| 08:26.11 | sprink | 01:24 < sprink> with suidbit |
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| 08:26.16 | sprink | oops |
| 08:26.28 | sprink | conds] |
| 08:26.28 | sprink | 01:26 -!- grandmoun [~piliman@encyclo014701-1-4.clients.easynet.fr] has joined #debian |
| 08:26.43 | sprink | ... failing hard at copy/paste right now |
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| 08:27.30 | ansgar | sprink: Use a pastebin (paste.debian.net). People will get upset otherwise. |
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| 08:28.13 | sprink | http://paste.debian.net/89486/ |
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| 08:28.58 | sprink | says the same thing for any other user I try to su to |
| 08:29.14 | ansgar | sprink: Ah, euid=1000 is the problem. |
| 08:29.24 | ansgar | sprink: Do you by chance use nss_ldap? |
| 08:30.24 | sprink | I'm not even sure what nss_ldap is |
| 08:31.01 | ansgar | When you don't know LDAP, you probably don't use it. |
| 08:31.12 | sprink | uid=1000(sprink) gid=1000(sprink) groups=1000(sprink),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev) |
| 08:31.22 | sprink | what does it have to do with euid? |
| 08:31.33 | sprink | euid == effective uid right? |
| 08:31.54 | ansgar | sprink: euid should be 0 (it is here). |
| 08:32.09 | sprink | right, 0 if I am root |
| 08:32.25 | sprink | or, wait |
| 08:32.30 | sprink | 0 if su is running as root |
| 08:32.32 | sprink | correct? |
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| 08:33.15 | ansgar | sprink: Do you use any special NSS or PAM modules? Especially one that might use SSL? That might cause the problem. |
| 08:33.19 | sprink | WOW |
| 08:33.22 | sprink | I found the proble |
| 08:33.24 | sprink | problem |
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| 08:33.31 | sprink | you guys are going to kill me |
| 08:34.18 | sprink | sprink@alan85:~$ ls -l `which su` |
| 08:34.18 | sprink | -rwxr-xr-x 1 sprink sprink 27108 2009-11-14 09:41 /home/sprink/bin/su |
| 08:34.31 | ansgar | Haha! :) |
| 08:34.33 | sprink | when I tried it the first time when jelly-home told me to, I was logged in as a differnt user |
| 08:34.37 | simonrvn | doh! |
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| 08:34.51 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 08:34.57 | ansgar | Note to self: Ask people to start programs with full path next time. |
| 08:35.00 | simonrvn | has been lurking |
| 08:35.11 | sprink | thank all of you a ton |
| 08:35.13 | sprink | :) |
| 08:35.22 | sprink | is a happy man again |
| 08:35.55 | sprink | that was insanely frustrating |
| 08:36.49 | sprink | the /bin/su was put in my home dir by accident when I mistakenly untar'd a system template for openvz into my home |
| 08:36.55 | sprink | :( |
| 08:37.07 | simonrvn | ah |
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| 08:39.02 | sprink | seriously thanks guys. it's almost 5am. I've been fighting this for a while |
| 08:39.03 | sprink | lol |
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| 08:39.53 | honschu | Hi, what do I have to set in dhcpd.conf to get a "search domain.org" in the client's /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 08:41.49 | acasto | honschu: option domain-name "<domain>"; |
| 08:41.58 | acasto | honschu: I think, might want to check |
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| 08:49.26 | Cisien | is there any setting to get the ouput of /etc/init.d/$initscript to show in the terminal when it fails? |
| 08:50.37 | honschu | dddd |
| 08:50.54 | honschu | /bye |
| 08:52.40 | themill | Cisien: in what way is that output not currently visible? |
| 08:53.38 | Cisien | it will only display "Starting $appname", and if it fails it gives no aditional output |
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| 08:54.03 | Cisien | squeeze, fwiw |
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| 08:54.27 | themill | Cisien: removing "quiet" from the boot options is one way to get more output on all init scripts |
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| 08:54.38 | Cisien | thanks |
| 08:55.19 | Cisien | any way to change that after the system as booted? (some envvar set?) |
| 08:57.35 | themill | istr "export VERBOSE=1" should work, but I've not found that in /lib/lsb/init-functions |
| 08:57.51 | Cisien | k |
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| 09:00.15 | Cisien | well, removing quiet from the kernel cmd line didn't help |
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| 09:02.38 | themill | Cisien: precisely what problem are you trying to solve? Many daemons stuff things in log files rather than spewing to the terminal |
| 09:02.59 | Cisien | gmediaserver isn't starting from the init script, but it runs fine from the cmdline |
| 09:03.07 | Cisien | nothing in logs that i can find |
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| 09:09.32 | fas3r | hello |
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| 09:09.50 | fas3r | can i identify the login pass in ssh connection with iptables ? |
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| 09:10.11 | Dewi | fas3r: no |
| 09:10.20 | Cisien | themill, i've had this problem with other init scripts also, (various ipv6 dhcp servers). |
| 09:10.28 | Dewi | fas3r: it wouldn't be secure if you could :P |
| 09:10.47 | Dewi | fas3r: you might be able to get the owner of the process tho |
| 09:10.47 | fas3r | sorry just the login not the password |
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| 09:11.13 | Cisien | it almost seems like start-stop-daemon doesn't do anything. Even with logging endabled in the app |
| 09:11.24 | Cisien | 's config, it never prints a log |
| 09:12.19 | Dewi | fas3r: well obviously since it's encrypted, the network layer can't see anything about the communication |
| 09:12.28 | Cisien | the init script had start-stop-daemon --quiet set, i removed --quiet, and it still doesn't give any output |
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| 09:13.03 | fas3r | its just i use fail2ban and i just want accept ssh connection with my login ... to identify it |
| 09:13.05 | nsadmin | fas3r identify the login with what?] |
| 09:13.11 | Dewi | fas3r: however iptables has an 'owner' section with filters based on the user/group/process of locally-created packets |
| 09:13.41 | Dewi | fas3r: you can set sshd to only accept a specific user. |
| 09:13.45 | fas3r | Dewi: because i know its possible to identify a M$ user ... its why i ask |
| 09:13.56 | fas3r | Dewi: yes its done allready |
| 09:14.02 | Dewi | fas3r: MS user of what? |
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| 09:14.10 | nsadmin | so then what's the problem? |
| 09:14.19 | Dewi | fas3r: sshd config option is AllowUsers btw |
| 09:14.51 | fas3r | Dewi: yes i know ^^ |
| 09:14.55 | fas3r | its already done |
| 09:14.59 | nsadmin | so then what's the problem? |
| 09:15.06 | fas3r | Dewi: yes MS user or LDAP user |
| 09:16.31 | nsadmin | first, what is the overall situation you want? why do you want to just accept ssh from your login? |
| 09:18.09 | fas3r | nsadmin: well just in case i fail 3 time the ssh auth for fail2ban i dont know if i drunk or something :D |
| 09:18.16 | Dewi | fas3r: I don't know what "MS" means. "MS" is not a network protocol. ssh is encrypted. Anyway, if you really think somebody can bypass your sshd config, you could drop all outgoing ssh packets not belonging to root and yourself |
| 09:18.24 | Dewi | fas3r: via --uid-owner |
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| 09:19.35 | nsadmin | so if you fail with fail2ban, it bans your IP for like 5 mins |
| 09:19.37 | Dewi | note this doesn't work on all kernels tho |
| 09:20.30 | nsadmin | I think he wants to defeat fail2ban in case he's drunk |
| 09:20.36 | fas3r | :D |
| 09:20.53 | Dewi | you can't defeat fail2ban with iptables |
| 09:20.59 | Dewi | so I dunno what that's all about |
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| 09:21.27 | Dewi | oh, are you trying to exclude yourself from fail2ban? |
| 09:21.40 | fas3r | Dewi: excatly |
| 09:21.46 | fas3r | exactly |
| 09:21.56 | nsadmin | maybe he's drunk now :) |
| 09:22.05 | fas3r | not yet :D |
| 09:22.06 | Dewi | fas3r: can't be done |
| 09:22.09 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 09:22.22 | Dewi | fas3r: if the whole IP is banned, there is no way you can find out what userid is |
| 09:22.43 | fas3r | but its append some time and if somebody call me for manage some little thing on the server i can fail sometime :D |
| 09:22.44 | nsadmin | right... another way: if the ip is banned, sshd won't even see it |
| 09:23.14 | fas3r | yes its why i ask if i can exclude a user login |
| 09:23.33 | fas3r | but if you said its possible .. well its impossible :D |
| 09:23.45 | fas3r | impossible* |
| 09:24.01 | nsadmin | the only possibility is to refactor fail2ban and sshd together |
| 09:24.09 | Dewi | fas3r: no, you'd need to see login info in the very first packet, and protocols don't work that way |
| 09:24.36 | fas3r | nsadmin: what do you mean ? |
| 09:24.44 | nsadmin | coding. in c. |
| 09:25.01 | nsadmin | totally redesigning how fail2ban and sshd work |
| 09:25.12 | nsadmin | not necessarily a good idea. |
| 09:25.28 | fas3r | yes and i dont C :D |
| 09:27.08 | fas3r | thank for your help :D |
| 09:27.13 | fas3r | and have a nice day :D |
| 09:27.20 | Cisien | thinks there's a problem with start-stop-daemon in squeeze |
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| 09:27.49 | Cisien | i modified the init scirpt for gmediastreamer to remove the start-stop-daemon stuff and call gmediaserver on it's own, and it worked fine. |
| 09:28.29 | Dewi | Cisien: I guess it's possible. Or it has changed and your package isn't compatible |
| 09:29.08 | Cisien | I'm not sure how the package wouldn't be compatable, doesn't start-stop-daemon simply chuid and call the process? |
| 09:31.15 | Dewi | it has a lot of options and stuff; it's not that simple |
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| 09:44.52 | twopak | hi, how do I install a 32bit library on a 64bit debian? |
| 09:45.10 | twopak | specifically, libmysqlclient |
| 09:46.05 | cantido | twopak: check if there is a 32bit library package first .. apt-cache search mysql 32 |
| 09:46.41 | twopak | damn, there doesn't seem to be any |
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| 09:47.40 | cantido | twopak: it isn't in the ia32-libs package either from what I can tell |
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| 09:48.17 | twopak | so, I'm doomed |
| 09:49.23 | cantido | twopak: I'm not sure what the official way of doing it is, but you can grab the i386 and extract what you need from there |
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| 09:50.26 | nsadmin | can't you rebuild the whole mysql pkg under 64b? |
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| 09:51.05 | cantido | it's something linked against the client lib.. |
| 09:51.45 | twopak | yeah, what cantido said |
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| 09:52.11 | cantido | twopak: some sort of closed-source client? |
| 09:52.12 | nsadmin | is mysql (that is the whole thing, all client libs, all server stuff, etc) available for 64b? |
| 09:52.19 | cantido | nsadmin: yes |
| 09:52.39 | nsadmin | so then, all eyes are on the client |
| 09:52.47 | cantido | nsadmin: which doesn't help if the thing he's trying to use is a 32bit binary linked against a 32bit mysqlclient lib ;) |
| 09:53.11 | nsadmin | true enough... |
| 09:53.32 | twopak | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1274482 |
| 09:53.36 | nsadmin | but if the client (the whole thing) could be rebuilt, that would be another way |
| 09:53.37 | twopak | do you think this is safe to do? |
| 09:53.54 | twopak | nsadmin: the client has some 32bit specific code, it is not an option now |
| 09:55.08 | twopak | by of course, replacing the url with the debian one |
| 09:55.09 | nsadmin | what is the client? (want to avoid it :) |
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| 09:56.45 | twopak | nsadmin: a master server for a program people use |
| 10:00.31 | cantido | twopak: you could extract the 32bit libs you need and stick them in the same dir as the binary.. |
| 10:00.46 | cantido | twopak: I think ld looks there by default |
| 10:02.03 | twopak | cool, I will try |
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| 10:02.58 | morlenxus | Is it possible to have services not stopping or restarting during dist-upgrade? |
| 10:03.09 | cantido | twopak: there was a script to create 32bit libs packages automatically.. I think it's been removed, but you might be able to find it somewhere |
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| 10:06.24 | nsadmin | morlenxus: if involved libs are replaced, you probably want them to restart |
| 10:07.25 | nsadmin | if you don't, then it's possbble the old and new lib could be loaded in memory at the same time... at best, that's a waste; at worst, it's an invitation to crashes |
| 10:07.32 | twopak | cantido: putting it into the same directory does not help :/ |
| 10:09.14 | cantido | twopak: just going to check what ld checks.. |
| 10:09.33 | cantido | twopak: have you got the source for it? |
| 10:09.48 | twopak | the client that links to mysqlclient? |
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| 10:10.39 | cantido | twopak: LD_LIBRARY_PATH .. setting that so that ld can find the library might help |
| 10:10.52 | cantido | twopak: yeah, you could build a static binary on a 32bit chroot |
| 10:11.08 | twopak | cantido: sure I do, I'm the developer of it |
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| 10:11.51 | nsadmin | if you're the developer, you could try porting it |
| 10:11.59 | cantido | twopak: ah cool, use debootstrap to build a 32bit chroot and build a static binary there |
| 10:12.02 | nsadmin | you'd be more successful than most |
| 10:12.20 | twopak | nsadmin: that's the plan, however there is no time to do it thi week and I have to move to a 64bit environment |
| 10:12.36 | nsadmin | why? |
| 10:12.41 | twopak | server switch |
| 10:13.03 | nsadmin | the server could run i386 userland |
| 10:13.43 | nsadmin | and as cantido suggests you could do a virtual machine with 32-bit userland |
| 10:14.08 | nsadmin | any of these could be set up fairly quickly |
| 10:14.43 | nsadmin | potentially, you could run the 32-bit virtual machine while you port and test on another virtual machine |
| 10:14.53 | nsadmin | make sure you ask for LOTS of ram |
| 10:15.56 | cantido | wouldn't have to be a virtual machine, chroot would work |
| 10:16.53 | nsadmin | true. but, if he wants to give himself time to do the port and make it easy, running them all at once could support that |
| 10:17.14 | morlenxus | nsadmin: Sure, but what if i still want that? :) |
| 10:17.45 | nsadmin | then I'd ask what problem you're trying to solve |
| 10:18.06 | cantido | wonders what 32bit code he has in there |
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| 10:19.20 | morlenxus | nsadmin: I'm using debian as a netboot system. I'm installing updates via chroot into the nfs dir on the nfs server. Some updates are failing because the scripts can't reload a service. That's why i need to skip that. |
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| 10:20.52 | abou_7anash_009 | Hi I am setting full duplex on my NIC using mii-tool but I am loosing the settings after restart, any way to fix this without having to write a script ? |
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| 10:22.12 | twopak | I tihnk I'll get it working by copying 32bit libs and setting the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable |
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| 10:23.27 | gnarface | so does "used" as output in the free command count leaked memory? |
| 10:23.56 | morlenxus | nsadmin: And, do you have an idea? |
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| 10:27.01 | cantido | abou_7anash_009: if your interface auto-negs incorrectly it will revert each time it auot-negs.. i.e. when you reboot |
| 10:27.47 | cantido | abou_7anash_009: try to work out why the NIC and switch can't bring the link up right |
| 10:30.10 | nsadmin | morlenxus: if the machine (virtual or otherwise) has access to the net generally, then you can update it using the normal tools |
| 10:32.32 | petern_ | hm |
| 10:33.06 | petern_ | using squeeze, msn in empathy seems to randomly drop offline with no notification, nor does it retry |
| 10:33.38 | Parsifal | petern_: Have you tried msn-pecan? |
| 10:33.59 | petern_ | no |
| 10:34.24 | petern_ | i don't use libpurple |
| 10:34.39 | Parsifal | Oh, I thought Empathy used libpurple the same as Pidgin |
| 10:34.53 | petern_ | it can, but it has its own protocol handlers too |
| 10:37.21 | cantido | gnarface: what do you mean by leaked? |
| 10:38.15 | cantido | gnarface: an application leaks memory (i.e. isn't using it, and never calls free()) it'll still be considered used |
| 10:38.30 | cantido | s/an/if an/ |
| 10:38.33 | morlenxus | nsadmin: You don't see the problem, that's ok. I just want to know if it's possible to disable restarting or reloading services during dist-upgrade |
| 10:39.52 | cantido | morlenxus: http://serverfault.com/questions/75114/is-it-possible-to-stop-dpkg-reconfigure-restarting-services |
| 10:40.01 | cantido | morlenxus: last comment seems to be the solution you want |
| 10:40.25 | gnarface | cantido: i know this is a dumb question, but I need to know for sure just for my own sanity; are there any situations where the leaked memory will remain "in use" as far as other programs are concerned *after* the process that leaked it is no longer showing in the process list output by ps aux |
| 10:40.51 | gnarface | cantido: swap too |
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| 10:41.24 | fas3r | hello |
| 10:41.33 | cantido | gnarface: once a process exits all the memory that it allocated and didn't free itself will be cleaned up by the kernel |
| 10:41.45 | fas3r | can i use strong auth with squid ? by certificqt or something like that ? |
| 10:42.48 | gnarface | cantido: thanks |
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| 10:46.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, see the question couple of lines above - so what about (re-) starting a service? if that fails, it would be logical/right for the script to exit with an error, but imo not right for the postinstall to fail |
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| 10:52.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | cantido, interesting... there's a factoid on it, too "policy-rc.d" |
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| 11:05.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | although I see there's a solution for this case... |
| 11:05.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, wb |
| 11:05.44 | dpkg | thanks, cutmeownthroat. It's good to be back. |
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| 11:08.54 | EugenMayer | hello, pdf2swf gives me "BAAAAA+LiberationSerif-Regular" font is missing. Any changce this is included in some package? (eventhough the name seems to be very odd) |
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| 11:14.13 | themill | ,info ttf-liberation |
| 11:14.15 | judd | ttf-liberation (x11, optional): Free fonts with the same metrics as Times, Arial and Courier. Version: 1.04.93-1; Size: 983.7k; Installed: 1696k; Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/ |
| 11:15.16 | EugenMayer | judd: i have those on my system |
| 11:15.26 | flyingpenguinpie | i just wanted to se |
| 11:15.28 | EugenMayer | but this BAAAAA is pretty strange |
| 11:15.39 | EugenMayer | err @ themill |
| 11:15.55 | EugenMayer | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:15.55 | EugenMayer | /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-liberation/LiberationSerif-Regular.ttf |
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| 11:18.01 | themill | EugenMayer: that's just the way the font name is "encoded" by many apps. I presume it's supposed to ensure uniqueness of the name or something. |
| 11:18.43 | EugenMayer | themill: hmm, odd. Maybe its pdftoswf then somehow cant backreference those fonts. i used pdf2swf -F /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-liberation out.pdf |
| 11:19.10 | EugenMayer | even, but actually same issue. Seems not to critical as the conversion works, but i still wonder about this. Its a very old issue though, not solved yet |
| 11:19.36 | EugenMayer | iam not saying this is debian-related at all, most probably its pdf2swf related. |
| 11:19.46 | EugenMayer | (though the server is a debian ofc) |
| 11:19.49 | themill | I've never touched it... sounds like pdf2swf doesn't handle fonts that are embedded into the PDF properly |
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| 11:21.06 | EugenMayer | themill: most probably. thanks for the hints |
| 11:21.31 | themill | np -- happy hunting :) |
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| 11:25.24 | nsadmin | trying to get moto4lin working with my phone, and I think there's a module involved that makes /dev/ttyACM0 |
| 11:26.01 | nsadmin | I don't see a device similarly named to that, so I'm assuming I would need that module... which module would that be? |
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| 11:37.12 | tsccof | Lazy^: lais? |
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| 11:58.41 | cire | Where can MAXWAIT for a bridge to get ready be reduced? |
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| 12:02.35 | sep | cire, just set it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:03.07 | sep | bridge-maxwait [sec] |
| 12:04.42 | cire | sep: tanks a lot |
| 12:04.45 | cire | thanks |
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| 12:15.27 | cafuego | we're on a bridge, charlie! |
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| 12:34.33 | sedulous | mutt or mutt-ng? |
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| 12:36.43 | rudi_s | sedulous: mutt, AFAIK mutt-ng is no longer maintained. |
| 12:37.23 | sedulous | rudi_s: ok good, thanks |
| 12:37.32 | rudi_s | np |
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| 12:50.47 | sedulous | does the debian mutt package have the folder list patch? |
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| 12:53.28 | petemc | sedulous: you can see changelogs on packages.debian.org , also you might want to look at the mutt-patched package |
| 12:56.17 | sedulous | ah! that looks good, petemc! |
| 12:56.24 | sedulous | This package adds the "sidebar" patch that lists mailboxes with new mail in a separate column on screen. |
| 12:56.30 | sedulous | i work a lot with IMAP folders and kind of need that |
| 12:57.21 | magicblaze0071 | I need to install debian on a bunch of machines (mostly 64-bit). I would like to have a DVD so that I can install it without going on the web. Any recommendations what I should burn on a DVD to do this? |
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| 12:57.48 | petemc | magicblaze0071: there are dvd isos available for download |
| 12:57.52 | rudi_s | sedulous: IMHO the sidebar is not really necessary, c has a nice tab completion and y gives you an overview of all mailboxes. But YMMV. |
| 12:58.06 | abrotman | magicblaze0071: why not use an apt proxy like apt-cacher or approx ? |
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| 13:00.21 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: its reasonable for a package to fail to install during postinst if starting the service fails. It may or may not be reasonable for the service scripts to fail to start the service depending on the situation. for instance, if it fails to start because of a user's misconfiguration, that's not necessarily a buggy package |
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| 13:02.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, but doesn't a failed install prevent you from installing/removing other packages? |
| 13:02.03 | magicblaze0071 | abrotman: can you point me to a web page that explains those. I've not used debian in over 7 years now. |
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| 13:04.30 | abrotman | !tell magicblaze0071 about approx |
| 13:04.33 | abrotman | !tell magicblaze0071 about apt-proxy |
| 13:04.37 | gunther44 | hi, how do i determine whether something was installed using apt-get or manually compiled? |
| 13:04.49 | abrotman | magicblaze0071: well, the bot doesn't know about approx .. but it was pretty easy to setup |
| 13:04.55 | abrotman | gunther44: such as? |
| 13:05.14 | themill | gunther44: apt-cache policy packagename |
| 13:05.19 | abrotman | magicblaze0071: basically, it's a proxy just for apt that you pass your package install requests through .. works pretty darn well |
| 13:05.43 | gunther44 | abrotman: imagemagick |
| 13:05.45 | themill | gunther44: (although if it's no longer on the mirrors, there's no way of knowing) |
| 13:06.15 | sedulous | magicblaze0071: if you're going to have Ubuntu or Cygwin machines as well, I recommend apt-cacher-ng |
| 13:07.17 | abrotman | approx! |
| 13:07.41 | abrotman | approx can do based-on-debian distros also IIRC .. and it really was cake to setup |
| 13:08.45 | gunther44 | themill: so, as an installed, and candidate line comes up with the policy command above, that means that it was installed using apt-get? |
| 13:09.24 | stew | gunther44: no, it means it could be installed now using apt-get. there is probably no reliable way to tell if a package was installed with apt-get, probably just ways to get clues |
| 13:09.25 | abrotman | only if the Installed line has a version .. but it's also possible someone compiled it and replaced the binaries |
| 13:09.30 | abrotman | !debsums |
| 13:09.30 | dpkg | i guess debsums is a utility that will check a package's files against their checksums. The "-a" argument will instruct it to also check configuration files. |
| 13:09.52 | themill | gunther44: no -- the version table needs to list a mirror with *** next to that version to tell you that |
| 13:09.57 | sedulous | abrotman: the main difference is that approx has a central sources list while apt-cacher-ng acts as a HTTP proxy, supporting different sources lists per client |
| 13:10.22 | stew | hmm, if one installs a package with dpkg -i, would apt-mark showauto list it as manual or auto? |
| 13:10.25 | gunther44 | ok, i'll try an update and see how that goes, thanks |
| 13:10.27 | sedulous | => depends on your requirements. i prefer the latter because i don't know what apt repositories my clients might want to use |
| 13:10.50 | gunther44 | actually the version table has a line with *** before it |
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| 13:11.20 | themill | stew: manual, unless you're running lenny and you'd previously installed the package and it was marked auto back then |
| 13:11.38 | abrotman | sedulous: not sure it really matters though .. obviously up to his usage patters .. i personally don't have to worry about non-Debian, and approx was a breeze to setup |
| 13:11.44 | abrotman | patterns |
| 13:11.51 | themill | gunther44: that's not what you need to check. there will always be a line with a *** in it if you have the package installed. You need to check that the starred line has a mirror listed with it. |
| 13:12.16 | themill | gunther44: and as mentioned, that doesn't guarantee that someone hasn't done a source-based install over the top of the apt-based one and made a nice mess of things. (use debsums for that) |
| 13:12.40 | gunther44 | true, thanks guys |
| 13:12.45 | abrotman | (assuming your package has md5sums for it) |
| 13:13.06 | themill | abrotman: you can always get debsums to make them for you |
| 13:13.30 | abrotman | if they're correct to start? |
| 13:14.02 | themill | abrotman: it makes them from a .deb |
| 13:14.11 | stew | themill, gunther44: wait are we trying to figure out if something was installed via "make install" or via "dpkg-buildpackage ; dpkg -i" |
| 13:14.12 | abrotman | or he could reinstall the package ? |
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| 13:15.34 | seicherlbob | hi! When I plug in an USB device, i get the following syslog: http://pastebin.com/GbQa8D5e (device not accepting address 29, error -62). It is a hotkey-panel of my silverstone case. any ideas how to make debian recognize the panel? |
| 13:17.39 | gunther44 | well i just need to upgrade it |
| 13:18.08 | abrotman | seicherlbob: uname -r |
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| 13:18.47 | seicherlbob | abrotman: its lenny. 2.6.26 i guess |
| 13:19.03 | abrotman | it might actually matter .. |
| 13:19.06 | seicherlbob | abrotman: yes. |
| 13:19.17 | seicherlbob | abrotman: it is 2.6.26-2-486 |
| 13:19.30 | abrotman | do you really hve a pentium ? |
| 13:19.36 | abrotman | like .. a 100Mhz Pentium ? |
| 13:19.49 | seicherlbob | abrotman: a celeron |
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| 13:19.53 | strk | making target debian/stamp/binary/linux-headers-2.6.35-tda18218+ [ |
| 13:20.05 | seicherlbob | Celeron 430, 1.8Ghz |
| 13:20.21 | strk | why in the world make-kpkg --append-to-version=-tda18218 makes target with -tda18218+ (note the final plus) ? |
| 13:20.29 | abrotman | seicherlbob: you can also install 'linux-image-2.6-686' |
| 13:20.56 | jordanm | 1.8ghz would be a pentium 4 era celeron |
| 13:21.34 | seicherlbob | abrotman: right. actually its the c't VDR distribution based on debian |
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| 13:22.45 | sep | any packages in debian for undelete a file on a fat32 partition ? apt-caches search only shows me ext tools |
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| 13:23.48 | ethanol | can I paste 3 lines here? |
| 13:23.59 | ethanol | err, actually 2 will do |
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| 13:24.17 | gunther44 | well, i need to manually compile anyway, i need a version that the repos doesn't have |
| 13:24.18 | ethanol | [22073869.428902] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 853722311 |
| 13:24.21 | ethanol | [22073869.428902] EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_find_entry: reading directory #26674357 offset 0 |
| 13:24.34 | ethanol | multiply that by several hundred lines |
| 13:24.39 | ethanol | I take it my server is rather screwed? |
| 13:24.42 | ethanol | :< |
| 13:24.43 | abrotman | ethanol: something is likely dying in your system .. sounds like the drive (sometimes it's a DMA setting) |
| 13:25.08 | ethanol | I can't even run 'w' anymore. -bash: /usr/bin/w: Input/output error |
| 13:25.44 | ethanol | trying to start apache I get (30)Read-only file system: apache2: could not open error log file /var/log/apache2/error.log |
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| 13:25.54 | ethanol | so the system switched to read-only I presume? |
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| 13:26.51 | abrotman | ethanol: i'd try to shut it down, mount it from a liveCD and pray for a backup |
| 13:27.22 | cantido | ethanol: check for sata disconnect messages before the FS started complaining |
| 13:27.45 | ethanol | dmesg doesn't go that far back |
| 13:27.52 | ethanol | seem it has been doing this since a day or 2 ago |
| 13:27.52 | ethanol | =D |
| 13:28.13 | ethanol | would explain why everything died this weekend |
| 13:28.22 | ethanol | I kinda forgot someone notified me ;< |
| 13:28.58 | ethanol | I still have an nsf share mounted |
| 13:29.02 | Parsifal | I ethanol |
| 13:29.03 | ethanol | could I copy the entire system? |
| 13:29.06 | Parsifal | I have lots of you in me right now |
| 13:29.09 | Parsifal | * Hi |
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| 13:31.12 | seicherlbob | abrotman: oh, i mixed the hosts. The error messages i posted are from a ubuntu machine. on the debian/VDR i dont get a single event in the syslog, when plugging in the device. |
| 13:31.28 | abrotman | seicherlbob: complain to #ubuntu then :) |
| 13:31.46 | seicherlbob | abrotman: but i need the device on the debian machine |
| 13:32.02 | seicherlbob | abrotman: i just plugged it in there to see if it is working there |
| 13:32.35 | bint | whats the difference between non-free and free versions? |
| 13:32.45 | bint | i like to get unrar but i dont know which verison i should install |
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| 13:34.38 | Rug | Howdy all |
| 13:34.43 | bint | hi |
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| 13:35.07 | MaybeDrunk | hi all |
| 13:35.27 | bint | ciao |
| 13:35.37 | Rug | amphi: Thanks for your help, I have dual-screen working well, but I think I have given up on Xonmad |
| 13:35.44 | MaybeDrunk | bint: =) |
| 13:35.48 | bint | :) |
| 13:36.05 | MaybeDrunk | i have this problem trying to install gnome on my debian unstable http://paste.pocoo.org/show/261397/ |
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| 13:36.16 | MaybeDrunk | do you know what can i do to solve it ? |
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| 13:37.58 | jordanm | !tell MaybeDrunk about unstable |
| 13:38.01 | jordanm | !tell MaybeDrunk about bts |
| 13:38.12 | bint | !tell bint about non-free |
| 13:38.29 | jordanm | !tell bint about selftell |
| 13:38.40 | simonrvn | you run sid, you get to keep both pieces when it breaks |
| 13:38.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | only two pieces? you must be kiddin |
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| 13:39.24 | bint | so whats exactly the difference between unrar-free and unrar-nonfree ? i still dont get it |
| 13:39.24 | simonrvn | (i'm not talking about the super-glued parts) |
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| 13:40.24 | jordanm | bint: look at the descriptions of the packages |
| 13:40.28 | MaybeDrunk | jordanm: thanks |
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| 13:41.10 | bint | is there a shell command to get that descripton? |
| 13:41.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | "apt-cache show <package>" |
| 13:41.29 | jordanm | bint: aptitude show <package> |
| 13:41.29 | bint | thx |
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| 13:42.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've seen you in #d and #d-ot off-and on since > 2 years ago... I'd have thought you knew that, though |
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| 13:43.13 | ethanol | bint: 7zip > unrar |
| 13:44.10 | bint | hmm |
| 13:44.51 | djura-san | o/ |
| 13:45.04 | sedulous | bint: the free unrar can't deal with many archives |
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| 13:46.20 | sedulous | i agree, 7z > RAR, both in terms of compression efficiency and availability of libre source code |
| 13:46.40 | bint | ah ok |
| 13:46.46 | bint | so you would recommand p7zip-full ? |
| 13:47.28 | jordanm | i have seen cases where RAR compression is better than 7zip's lzma. 7zip is better because its free |
| 13:47.44 | sedulous | i don't know how well 7z deals with RAR archives. unrar (free) is mostly useless however, except for very old archives |
| 13:47.54 | stew | to create archives, rar isn't even free in the gratis sense, you have to actually pay |
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| 13:49.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | what? I thought I would remember creating rar archives with the stuff in debian |
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| 13:49.57 | sedulous | CutMeOwnThroat: most likely with the shareware "rar" program that requires you to pay after 40 days of use |
| 13:50.18 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: there is nothing in debian to create rar archives afaik, there is the rar package in non-free, which costs money |
| 13:50.36 | Parsifal | afaik there is a free program to create RAR version 2 archives |
| 13:50.43 | Parsifal | I may be wrong though, since I never use RAR |
| 13:50.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, perhaps I didn't... rar is just a rather common format, so I kind of thought I must have made one |
| 13:51.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | funny to hear I couldn't have |
| 13:51.22 | sedulous | CutMeOwnThroat: it's very possible but probably illegal if you didn't pay and had the package installed for more than 40 days |
| 13:51.32 | sedulous | non-free/utils rar: This program is shareware and you must register it after 40 days of use. |
| 13:52.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, I see |
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| 13:52.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | so better to not have that installed |
| 13:53.21 | sedulous | up to you |
| 13:53.36 | sedulous | personally i don't want to create new RAR archives that require others to use closed source shareware |
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| 13:54.15 | sedulous | (even though it's a practical and efficient format, no doubt about that) |
| 13:55.07 | aronzak | hi there |
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| 13:55.32 | sedulous | aronzak: greetings. how are things in the future? (.au) |
| 13:55.38 | Parsifal | Personally I don't even have contrib and non-free in my sources.list at all |
| 13:55.42 | aronzak | going quite well |
| 13:55.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't do that regularly either... I just thought I had done it at least _once_ some years ago... but I'm not even sure about that |
| 13:56.50 | aronzak | I was wondering, can anyone explain why the netbeans-ide package is so old? |
| 13:57.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions netbeans-ide |
| 13:57.30 | judd | netbeans-ide -- lenny/contrib: 6.0.1+dfsg-2; sid/contrib: 6.0.1+dfsg-3 |
| 13:57.40 | themill | !dbugs 543907 |
| 13:57.44 | dpkg | #543907:N[wnpp] O: netbeans-ide -- IDE for Java Development and More, version 6 (IDE) (); Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:06:23 UTC [] |
| 13:57.59 | themill | aronzak: because no-one has volunteered to spend time looking after it |
| 13:58.06 | aronzak | hmm, ok |
| 13:59.25 | themill | aronzak: (and as such, it will not be included in the upcoming debian release "squeeze") |
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| 14:00.10 | abrotman | supposedly the package was in pretty bad shape |
| 14:01.04 | aronzak | I was wondering weather someone just gave up, or if there was any movement against it |
| 14:01.52 | abrotman | aronzak: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=478762 |
| 14:02.24 | simonrvn | 'whether' |
| 14:02.41 | simonrvn | metar tells you the weather ;p |
| 14:04.00 | aronzak | right, dfsg politics |
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| 14:04.45 | abrotman | aronzak: not really 'politics' .. it's pretty clear |
| 14:06.34 | themill | aronzak: no... just completely unmaintained for quite a long time. |
| 14:08.45 | aronzak | really? Someone has a repo for the 6.8 version taken from Ubuntu's, which includes the real java packages. 6.0.1 uses openjdk |
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| 14:09.51 | themill | aronzak: yes, and as I said, no-one has volunteered to spend the time getting that into shape for use in debian. Please feel free to contribute yourself if this is a package that you would like to see in better shape. |
| 14:11.28 | bint | damn i've installed p7zip-full and p7zip-rar and i try to unrar a splitted file archive i created my self - i can extract it on windows using 7zip but on my virtual machine it just won't work |
| 14:11.52 | bint | Error: Incorrect command line |
| 14:12.12 | sedulous | bint: worst case, try "unrar" from non-free |
| 14:12.14 | bint | what command do i have to use to extract a splittet rar archive? i'm tryin it with 7z -e from the manpage |
| 14:12.40 | bint | 7zip can't deal with splittet archives? |
| 14:12.42 | sedulous | bint: â7z eâ, not â-eâ |
| 14:12.52 | bint | oh holy |
| 14:12.52 | sedulous | â7z xâ for full paths |
| 14:12.54 | bint | thanks |
| 14:12.59 | sedulous | man 7z :) |
| 14:13.07 | bint | i'm used to this - |
| 14:13.08 | bint | dont know why |
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| 14:16.40 | bint | is it possible to see the process if something is happening.. like extracting a large file or something |
| 14:16.53 | bint | because now its just standing still and i dont know wether it is extracting or hanging or something |
| 14:18.47 | jordanm | bint: strace |
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| 14:20.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | top |
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| 14:20.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, use atop, it's much fancier! |
| 14:20.35 | bint | atop? |
| 14:20.35 | bint | ok |
| 14:20.36 | sedulous | htop! |
| 14:20.54 | bint | what now :)? |
| 14:21.12 | sedulous | atop is in high-def color! |
| 14:21.15 | sedulous | err, htop |
| 14:21.30 | sedulous | also it can show you I/O read/write per process |
| 14:21.59 | bint | i think i dont have any colors in my command prompt |
| 14:22.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course! |
| 14:22.09 | bint | i've never seen colors in putty so far |
| 14:22.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | atop also uses colors |
| 14:22.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | what? not even in ls? |
| 14:22.38 | bint | na |
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| 14:25.36 | moo____t | I have tzdata set to Europe/Paris, so /var/log/syslog is timestamped UTC+2, but /var/log/auth.log is still using UTC. What am I missing here? |
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| 14:29.40 | daedhel | ho can I "dpkg -i" and automagically install the deps ? |
| 14:30.06 | themill | daedhel: "dpkg -i foo.deb; aptitude install foo" or use gdebi |
| 14:30.31 | Rug | Can I just subst 'testing' for lenney in my sources.lst so that I will keep getting 'new' packages? |
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| 14:31.27 | daedhel | themill: thanks. I have never heard of gdebi. Is it a gui frontend to apt ? |
| 14:32.27 | themill | daedhel: it makes use of python-apt to do the dirty work, yes. |
| 14:32.29 | ksk | "aptitude show gdebi"? |
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| 14:33.33 | cantido | bint: your terminal type is probably incorrect |
| 14:33.43 | daedhel | themill: thanks |
| 14:33.58 | daedhel | ksk: lol, didn't know about the "show" switch, hanks |
| 14:34.34 | themill | daedhel: also, "apt-cache show packagename" |
| 14:34.45 | bint | terminal type? |
| 14:34.51 | bint | maybe i'll check it but i dont think |
| 14:34.56 | cantido | bint: what does $TERM say? |
| 14:35.09 | bint | wait i have to go get some coffee will be back in 5min |
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| 14:35.21 | cantido | bint: if you don't have $TERM set to something that supports colours you won't get colurs |
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| 14:37.34 | ogamita | I try to upgrade my lenny, but it says: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-18lenny4_i386.deb (--unpack). What can I do? |
| 14:37.45 | jordanm | !bat |
| 14:37.45 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 14:38.27 | daedhel | ogamita: you might try to erase the package and redownload it |
| 14:38.57 | jordanm | daedhel: erase the package?? did you see that it was libc6? |
| 14:39.37 | Cisien | i imagine he means the temporary downloaded version |
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| 14:40.03 | daedhel | jordanm: good point |
| 14:40.48 | ogamita | Here are the apt-get logs http://paste.debian.net/89539/ |
| 14:41.14 | ogamita | I did try to remove the deb and download it again, but no change. |
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| 14:42.18 | ogamita | Notice that the error about bswap is due to this lenny running in qemu, with a virtual core2 processor (T2600). |
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| 14:42.48 | themill | ogamita: try "aptitude full-upgrade" instead |
| 14:42.56 | ogamita | ok. |
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| 14:49.36 | bint | cantido now i'm back. |
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| 14:50.10 | bint | i'm really new on linux in general.. and have no idea what $TERM is. - i just tried google but with the $ i dont get any hits.. |
| 14:50.36 | cantido | bint: type "echo $TERM" into putty |
| 14:51.56 | ogamita | with aptitute, it doesn't work better: http://paste.debian.net/89540 |
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| 14:52.29 | bint | echo $TERM xterm |
| 14:52.38 | cantido | mmm you should get colours |
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| 14:52.59 | bint | maybe the isp disabled colors.. they did set up their own kernel |
| 14:58.29 | cantido | bint: mm they shouldn't have. I haven't used putty in ages but I think it is possible to get it working. Google nows all :) |
| 14:58.37 | cantido | s/nows/knows/ |
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| 15:01.01 | bint | i think i have to edit the users bash and enable colours there and restart .bashrc |
| 15:01.04 | bint | this might be true ;)? |
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| 15:06.13 | epsas | Annoying bug in Debian 5.0 sshd |
| 15:06.32 | epsas | sshd returns the motd in ascii -- even if the text is internationalized |
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| 15:07.17 | abrotman | epsas: which file did you change? |
| 15:08.20 | epsas | abrotman - it's a known bug... let me find the bugid# |
| 15:08.36 | epsas | i am just venting in hopes that someone has noticed also and addressed it on their own systems |
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| 15:09.37 | jtheuer | how can I print the filesystem information of an ext3 partition? (like blocksize for example) |
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| 15:12.32 | cahoot | dump2fs perhaps |
| 15:12.41 | cahoot | dumpe2fs |
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| 15:20.14 | bint | i just dont get it with e colors |
| 15:20.19 | daedhel | i'm gettinf this when I am trying to configure a source package: |
| 15:20.20 | bint | i think i have to activate em somewhere in linux |
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| 15:20.23 | daedhel | [dae]$ ./configure |
| 15:20.23 | daedhel | Default value of 'gtk_cflags' couldn't be set from '`RFS=$rfs scripts/rfs-pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0`' |
| 15:20.23 | daedhel | Set it explicitly with '--gtk_cflags=value' |
| 15:20.26 | daedhel | anyone can help ? |
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| 15:21.57 | bint | looks like you have to give a value because it can't use the default value.. - thats what i read - but i'm really new on linux and dont know much bout it |
| 15:22.29 | jordanm | bint: you shouldn't need to do anything for working colors. ls --color does not display as expected? |
| 15:23.06 | epsas | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=326027 |
| 15:23.13 | epsas | abrotman |
| 15:23.35 | bint | wow jordanm ls --color shows everything in color |
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| 15:23.39 | bint | how can i enable this always |
| 15:23.55 | daedhel | bint: make an alias in your .bashrc |
| 15:24.13 | bint | i have to do this for every user or is it in gerneal? |
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| 15:24.22 | ksk | .bashrc is for a user |
| 15:24.30 | cantido | bint: you don't get colours in other programs though? |
| 15:24.50 | ksk | there also is a global file in /etc i guess |
| 15:25.03 | bint | no nothing just when i type ls -color |
| 15:25.07 | jordanm | bint: if you want it to apply to all users, edit /etc/bash.bashrc instead |
| 15:25.15 | bint | cool |
| 15:25.37 | bint | what i want is when i go for dir -p or just dir that it will show the colors |
| 15:25.58 | jordanm | bint: use ls instead and make the alias as stated |
| 15:26.09 | bint | ok |
| 15:27.18 | jordanm | bint: here is the global bashrc from gentoo that I still use as a local .bashrc. its color-oriented: http://paste.debian.net/89554/ |
| 15:29.26 | bint | so i can just copy copy this and replace it with the bash.bashrc i have ? |
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| 15:31.35 | jordanm | bint: I replace my ~/.bashrc with it |
| 15:31.42 | jordanm | and root's |
| 15:31.58 | jordanm | but I also keep my dotfiles in a git and install them all at once with a script |
| 15:32.18 | bint | ok |
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| 15:36.05 | bint | ah found it |
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| 15:36.26 | bint | # Some more alias to avoid making mistakes: # alias rm='rm -i' # alias cp='cp -i' # alias mv='mv -i' thats aswell in the .bashrc - should i uncomment these lines? |
| 15:36.38 | codewiz | hi i have a debian 5 server and got ddosed... where can i find logs of that? |
| 15:36.55 | codewiz | need the hosts |
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| 15:37.57 | Burns | Hello |
| 15:38.13 | Burns | 32 or 64bit for an i7 930 server with 8GB ram? |
| 15:38.27 | codewiz | 64 |
| 15:38.39 | brummbaer | 64 or PAE kern |
| 15:38.42 | codewiz | else, you can only use 4gb ram |
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| 15:39.34 | jelly | codewiz: probably in the normal place for the service that got DDoSed. Typically somewhere under /var/log |
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| 15:41.23 | Burns | Thanks for the info |
| 15:41.27 | codewiz | mh kinda hard to figure out which one that was |
| 15:41.43 | codewiz | my ircbot that ran on the server ping timeouted, along with all other ops of that channel |
| 15:42.06 | codewiz | then a guy used a weakness in our re-op flags (on ircnet) |
| 15:42.54 | codewiz | so our channel was taken, and i need the hosts because else, i cant prove anything to the ircnet guys who could solve this |
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| 15:44.11 | jelly | codewiz: do you know where your ircd logs reside? |
| 15:44.28 | codewiz | ircd? |
| 15:44.32 | codewiz | you mean my bot? |
| 15:44.40 | codewiz | this bot only keeps log about what happened on irc |
| 15:44.42 | jelly | irc server. |
| 15:44.48 | codewiz | no i dont run an irc server |
| 15:44.52 | codewiz | just the bot |
| 15:45.04 | jelly | codewiz: so look at the bot's logs |
| 15:45.20 | codewiz | what do i need to look for? massive pinging? |
| 15:45.27 | jelly | I have no idea. |
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| 15:46.03 | jelly | if you want a generic answer, anything unusual and/or high volume |
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| 15:46.30 | codewiz | mh thats difficult |
| 15:46.39 | codewiz | all our ops went ping timeout |
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| 15:47.50 | Burns | Just wanted to say thanks for the info |
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| 15:49.08 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hello |
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| 15:50.01 | codewiz | every time it joined the channel, it went |
| 15:50.02 | codewiz | ERROR :Closing Link: ramabot[rmbot@vps-1005763-1553.united-hoster.de] (Excess Flood) |
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| 15:51.35 | kaushal | hi |
| 15:51.38 | kaushal | can someone please guide me about this post http://lists.wald.intevation.org/pipermail/openvas-discuss/2010-September/002142.html ? |
| 15:51.55 | kaushal | I am on debian 5.0.6 |
| 15:54.51 | bzed | kaushal: specifying what kind of guidance you want to have would be the first step. I guess you'r enot looking for somebody to read it for you :) |
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| 15:55.51 | kaushal | bzed, I get this error in openvassd.dump |
| 15:56.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | cantido, doh - the kbd works... plugged it in with windows and it worked... rebooted and it worked in grub... booted into linux and X and it kept working only really, the pipe greater/smaller key doesn't work |
| 15:56.07 | kaushal | I am running openvas scanner on debian 5.0.6 |
| 15:56.22 | kaushal | what more infor do you need ? |
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| 15:58.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | cantido, and that about the pipe key was on the page you dug up... I should have read that before I ordered... |
| 15:58.15 | cantido | CutMeOwnThroat: do you have to use windows to make it work each time? |
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| 15:58.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | cantido, no idea... I'm not usually rebooting the laptop and I have no idea what special magic made it work |
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| 15:59.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | cantido, interesting thing really, that it worked on the grub menu... |
| 15:59.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | might be - I rebooted without switching the laptop off completely |
| 15:59.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm let me test if sleep-mode makes it stp working |
| 15:59.58 | cantido | CutMeOwnThroat: maybe windows did some init stuff that the keyboard needed |
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| 16:00.30 | cantido | CutMeOwnThroat: as long as the power stayed on during the reboot the keyboard stayed in happy-mode |
| 16:00.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | maybe |
| 16:01.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | I would experiment more, but I hate rebooting |
| 16:01.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's why it took me several days to boot into windows :-P |
| 16:01.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I might as well shut down completely and see if it still works |
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| 16:01.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | before I open up all windows again |
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| 16:02.51 | cantido | needs a decent keyboard |
| 16:03.01 | cantido | one with a pointing device |
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| 16:11.53 | bint | i want to chmod all files in /zonk |
| 16:12.04 | bint | is there a command to do this or do i have to chmod every single file |
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| 16:12.18 | granquet | bint: man chmod |
| 16:12.35 | bint | the man page is so long.. but ok.. i'll read |
| 16:12.57 | jordanm | bint: they keyword for that kind of thing is "recursive". use "/" and "n" to search manpages |
| 16:13.44 | sedulous | bint: tip to make man-pages more readable: aptitude install most; export PAGER=/usr/bin/most |
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| 16:17.49 | bint | sedulous this in one line? aptitude install most; export PAGER=/usr/bin/most - i've never seen a export behind an install package |
| 16:18.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | cantido, no... just tried and shut down the computer and rebooted with the keyboard on and it still worked in grub and still works with X |
| 16:18.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | freky |
| 16:18.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | freaky* |
| 16:18.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | now I can try disconnecting it |
| 16:18.37 | jordanm | most does look nicer, but it lacks regex search |
| 16:18.55 | bint | ah it looks a lot nicer |
| 16:19.00 | bint | and its funny - i get colors |
| 16:19.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | \o/ colors |
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| 16:19.21 | granquet | my dmesg is filled with ext3-fs errors (ext3_new_block: Allocating block in system zone), and the partition goes read-only after a while. I found some old threads on lkml talking about the northbridge not being able to DMA past 4GB of ram properly, but it's quite old. any other ideas? |
| 16:19.31 | yakamo | any one know were i can get drivers for the acer invilink Nplify |
| 16:19.44 | yakamo | or if debian squeeze has support for this |
| 16:19.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | cantido, hmm, indeed - plug-out/plug-in -> doesn't type |
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| 16:19.55 | sedulous | bint: if you like it, you can put the export thing in your ~/.bashrc |
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| 16:20.53 | bint | well somehow i still have problems with the bashrc |
| 16:20.57 | mind23 | is there a difference in IPTables on a root & vserver? |
| 16:21.02 | bint | i did edit it and tried to get colors with ls -l |
| 16:21.15 | bint | but it didn't work so i went on and edited the .profile - didn't work either |
| 16:21.22 | bint | so i'm wondering if i have to edit /etc/profile |
| 16:21.41 | bint | but i'm a bit fed up with this color thing since i'm trying to do it for hours now without any effort |
| 16:21.51 | bint | the only thing i learned was ls --color (this helps:) |
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| 16:24.58 | Rug | Can I just subst 'testing' for lenney in my sources.lst so that I will keep getting 'new' packages? |
| 16:25.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | cant... oh gorn |
| 16:25.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | lost hist terminal |
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| 16:27.24 | Rug | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | bint, .bashrc? if [ "$TERM" != "dumb" ]; then eval "`dircolors -b`";alias ls='ls --color=auto';fi |
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| 16:28.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | Rug, what? |
| 16:28.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | testing is squeeze |
| 16:29.21 | Rug | CutMeOwnThroat: Can I just subst 'testing' for lenney in my sources.lst so that I will keep getting 'new' packages? instead of changing the name every time. |
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| 16:29.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | you said that and I still don't understand it |
| 16:30.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, you mean upgrade from lenny to squeeze? |
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| 16:30.04 | Rug | yes |
| 16:30.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | you had the right factoid there... |
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| 16:30.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, lenny->squeeze |
| 16:30.55 | dpkg | Ask me about <squeeze udev>, as you will need to upgrade to the squeeze kernel and reboot first. Remove any APT source specific to stable (such as volatile) or bpo, then s/lenny/squeeze/ on your sources.list and then aptitude update && aptitude install aptitude linux-image-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,'` ; reboot; aptitude safe-upgrade && aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask me about <d-d-a>, <apt-listchanges>, <testing>, <squeeze release notes>. |
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| 16:31.18 | bint | lol i thought i'll try vi instead of nano.. and now i dont know how to exit - ^X doesn't work |
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| 16:32.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | "ZZ" |
| 16:32.41 | brummbaer | bint :q |
| 16:32.50 | brummbaer | that's the command to quit vi |
| 16:32.55 | bint | oh thanks |
| 16:33.14 | brummbaer | exclamation overrides need to save (i.e. :q! ) |
| 16:33.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | I prefer ZZ |
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| 16:33.58 | mind23 | is there a difference in IPTables on a root & vserver? |
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| 16:35.21 | jordanm | good chance that a vserver does not have permissions needed for altering iptables, as it runs on the host kernel |
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| 16:45.00 | cusco | hi folks |
| 16:45.10 | cusco | how can I rais the limit of opened file descriptors for a user? |
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| 16:45.25 | mind23 | jordanm, thanks for your anser. think you're right. |
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| 16:46.25 | abrotman | cusco: with ulimit ? |
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| 16:47.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.5.0-1.fc9.i386 umm... how does that version number compare to the one in lenny? |
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| 16:49.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | confusing... |
| 16:49.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions xserver-xorg |
| 16:49.09 | judd | xserver-xorg -- etch: 1:7.1.0-19; lenny: 1:7.3+20; squeeze: 1:7.5+6; sid: 1:7.5+7 |
| 16:49.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions xserver-xorg-core |
| 16:49.13 | judd | xserver-xorg-core -- etch: 2:1.1.1-21etch5; etch-security: 2:1.1.1-21etch5; lenny: 2:1.4.2-10.lenny2; squeeze: 2:1.7.7-4; sid: 2:1.7.7-6; experimental: 2:1.8.99.905-1 |
| 16:49.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | 2:1.4.2 might be older than 1.5.0? |
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| 16:50.45 | cusco | abrotman: I read on the web I could edit the file /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 16:51.19 | cusco | abrotman: it doesn't seem to work tho: http://paste.debian.net/89575/ |
| 16:51.26 | cusco | or do I have to reboot the kernel? |
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| 16:54.40 | abrotman | cusco: how is the person loggin in? |
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| 16:57.27 | datacrusher | jordanm, i got an identic computer here, that ill reinstall the debian server i got here but i wont do the same mistake with the partitions. Iv setted only a swap and a / . Is there a quick way to copy the users / configs to the new server ? |
| 16:57.40 | cusco | abrotman: actually, it is asterisk voip server.. the init script has a flag to specify username and group |
| 16:58.12 | cusco | start-stop-daemon uses that flag |
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| 16:58.30 | jhutchins_lt | It would be polite if the people at debian could settle on either backport.debian.org or backports.debian.org. |
| 16:58.41 | bzed | backports.debian.org. |
| 16:58.47 | jhutchins_lt | It would be even better if they could resolve both since they've generated the issue. |
| 16:58.53 | jhutchins_lt | bzed: Yes, as of when? |
| 16:58.56 | themill | jhutchins_lt: when did it change? |
| 16:59.04 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: since ever? |
| 16:59.14 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: well, since backports.org moved to backports.debian.org |
| 16:59.37 | jhutchins_lt | No, last week backports was not resolving, backport was. |
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| 16:59.53 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: typo then. |
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| 17:00.25 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, and now we're getting a 404. |
| 17:01.04 | themill | jhutchins_lt: I have never seen "backport.debian.org" mentioned anywhere and nor has google. |
| 17:01.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | bzed, nice piece of circular logic... |
| 17:01.24 | jhutchins_lt | It appears that some excremental accretion at debian.org has fallen short today. |
| 17:01.24 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: that must be an internal issue of yor network |
| 17:01.41 | jhutchins_lt | themill yet it was resolving as late as my cron-apt run over night, so... |
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| 17:02.04 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Yes, backports was what the docs said, but backport was what resolved Friday. |
| 17:02.09 | themill | jhutchins_lt: your typo doesn't mean that debian can't work out what it's doing |
| 17:02.16 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Not my typo. |
| 17:02.23 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Not my 404. |
| 17:02.47 | themill | what is giving a 404? I'm with bzed on it being a local problem |
| 17:02.51 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Configured as documented last week (backports) it did not resolve, but backport did. |
| 17:03.00 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Now backport does not and backports does. |
| 17:03.16 | jhutchins_lt | Err http://backports.debian.org lenny-backports/main Packages |
| 17:03.18 | jhutchins_lt | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.37 | themill | and the line from your sources.list is? |
| 17:03.50 | themill | jhutchins_lt: it resolved for me all week... and you randomly chose something that was never officially supported and hoped it would work... |
| 17:03.54 | jhutchins_lt | The backport/backports issue was on five different systems last week, so not just a typo. |
| 17:04.23 | jhutchins_lt | themill: No, I tested one thing, it failed, I tested the other, it worked (on five systems), and it has changed. This happens. |
| 17:05.05 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: which dns are you using? |
| 17:05.18 | themill | jhutchins_lt: backports.debian.org has worked for me all week. Still sounds like you've got something at your end that's doing the wrong thing. Especially if you're now seeing 404s (I'm not seeing any...) |
| 17:05.27 | jhutchins_lt | bzed: Dude, accept that it was real. Multiple DNS, multiple data centers. |
| 17:06.03 | ethanol | it has always been backports for me |
| 17:06.03 | ethanol | has been for over 2 years at least |
| 17:06.03 | ethanol | so move along :< |
| 17:06.05 | jhutchins_lt | ethanol: It's only been up since Sept. 5. |
| 17:06.10 | themill | ethanol: err... we're talking about a change that happened a week ago. |
| 17:06.31 | jhutchins_lt | ethanol: backports.org has been adopted by debian.org and is now at backports.debian.org |
| 17:06.31 | ethanol | themill: what? I need to update my sources? :< |
| 17:06.43 | jhutchins_lt | backports.org was still working last I looked. |
| 17:06.44 | themill | ethanol: and subscribe to debian-announce, by the looks of it. |
| 17:06.55 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, I need to do that too. |
| 17:06.57 | ethanol | themill: mailing lists are so 1999. |
| 17:07.00 | ethanol | :< |
| 17:07.37 | ethanol | but backports.org still seems to work fine? |
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| 17:07.51 | themill | makes ethanol go and read the announcement |
| 17:08.17 | bzed | jhutchins_lt: if you're the only one who had a "working" backport.debian.org, something is wrong on your side. If you want somebody to investigate what happened, you should provide some information. Otherwise I'll just assume its your fault |
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| 17:09.14 | qq- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:10.49 | themill | qq-: no, that would be fine. But the line from apt doesn't actually tell you what the deb line was from the sources.list. But it seems jhutchins_lt doesn't want help as he's chosen not to tell me. |
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| 17:12.16 | _stefanos_ | Good evening everyone. I have an external HDD 2.5" and does not load under Debian for some reason. Is there a way to make it work? |
| 17:13.10 | tomodachi | _stefanos_: doest cat /proc/partitions return a list containing your hd? |
| 17:13.38 | _stefanos_ | i haven't checked it like that; let me see |
| 17:13.46 | jhutchins_lt | bzed: Who says I was the only one? There was at least on other person on this channel who pointed out that backport worked when backports didn't. |
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| 17:14.25 | jhutchins_lt | bzed: No need to investigate, they set up the wrong domain and then fixed it to match the docs. Happens all the time. |
| 17:15.35 | jhutchins_lt | themill: No help needed, thank you. WIll wait for them to get it together. New projects have their teething pains. |
| 17:15.50 | _stefanos_ | tomodachi: i get only the seven partitions of my system |
| 17:16.00 | themill | jhutchins_lt: if you're getting 404s, then you have a misconfiguration. Enjoy. |
| 17:16.27 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Are you getting a connection at that same IP address? |
| 17:16.32 | jhutchins_lt | 404's come and go. |
| 17:16.39 | themill | jhutchins_lt: yes. Works fine here. |
| 17:17.16 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
| 17:17.53 | jhutchins_lt | let me try it on another system/network... |
| 17:18.15 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, no 404. |
| 17:18.51 | jhutchins_lt | Oh, that's still using backports.org. |
| 17:19.19 | jhutchins_lt | tabs through the xterms... |
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| 17:20.21 | jhutchins_lt | Ok, there's the other one that got updated. Thought I'd done all 4. |
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| 17:20.44 | JordiGH | Is there a way to include a directory in ssh aliases? |
| 17:20.58 | JordiGH | I want to do "scp thefile.txt theremotelocation:" |
| 17:21.18 | JordiGH | And that it doesn't write to just homedir in remotelocation, but a subdir of homedir. |
| 17:21.27 | jhutchins_lt | That one's getting 404's on 19.9 as well. |
| 17:22.06 | nooper | "scp thefile.txt theremotelocation:subdir", where subdir is relative to homedir |
| 17:22.14 | jhutchins_lt | It's wierd that it got updates when cron-apt ran. |
| 17:22.14 | themill | isn't going to ask what the sources.list line is again |
| 17:22.30 | nooper | maybe subdir/ |
| 17:22.35 | jhutchins_lt | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 17:22.39 | jhutchins_lt | Is that correct? |
| 17:22.42 | themill | fail |
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| 17:22.50 | JordiGH | nooper: Yes, I want an alias for that. |
| 17:22.51 | jhutchins_lt | It worked for backports.org and also worked when cron-apt ran this morning. |
| 17:23.00 | jhutchins_lt | So they are changing the configuration. |
| 17:23.12 | qq- | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 17:23.14 | nooper | JordiGH: as in a shell alias? |
| 17:23.19 | themill | right... they're changing it from what worked last week so that the identical configuration still works now. |
| 17:23.25 | JordiGH | nooper: As in ssh alias. |
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| 17:23.47 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Dude, this configuration worked last week, and it worked this morning. |
| 17:23.57 | jhutchins_lt | themill: That's what I've been trying to explain! |
| 17:24.04 | _stefanos_ | how come Windows have the power to load an external 2.5" HDD and Debian (or any other GNU / Linux distro) has not? |
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| 17:24.21 | jhutchins_lt | _stefanos_: No reason. |
| 17:24.31 | themill | jhutchins_lt: it's hardly anyone's fault but yours if you don't follow the instructions and then something breaks. The recommended configuration has not changed in the last week and has worked for the entire time. Up to you whether you do something else or not. |
| 17:24.34 | jhutchins_lt | themill: New project. Teething pain. |
| 17:24.44 | themill | err... no. |
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| 17:25.46 | jhutchins_lt | themill: I took the backports.org line, which worked, and changed it to backports.debian.org, which for watever reason did not resolve at the time, so I changed it to backport.debian.org, with everything else the same as the backports.org config, and I ran it, and it worked. It's not like I would have left it that way if it had failed. |
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| 17:26.02 | jhutchins_lt | It continued to work through the cron-apt run overnight, as I believe I mentioned before. |
| 17:26.30 | themill | The recommended configuration has not changed in the last week and has worked for the entire time. Up to you whether you do something else or not. |
| 17:26.34 | jhutchins_lt | I accept that it may be wrong. |
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| 17:26.58 | jhutchins_lt | The point is it DID work, and now it doesn't, and it's MY misconfiguration, sure. But it DID work. |
| 17:27.03 | amphi | Rug: why's that? |
| 17:27.41 | JordiGH | Hm, I guess a shell alias is the way to do it? |
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| 17:28.56 | jhutchins_lt | Just to verify, modified to match the page at /Instructions it works fine. |
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| 17:30.58 | jhutchins_lt | ...and now it installs the updates that cron-apt notified me of from the "bad" config. |
| 17:31.33 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Yes, I did it wrong, but it worked until they fixed it. |
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| 17:34.30 | _stefanos_ | is debian-multimedia.org reliable about its packages? |
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| 17:35.14 | davidroderick | nmap tells me that port 8081 is Microsoft windows uPnp This is a VPS. Should I turn it off? |
| 17:35.16 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: what do you mean by reliable? |
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| 17:36.03 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: do they have regular updates? Yes. Does stuff break when it used to work? Sometimes. Are packages technically decent? Yes. |
| 17:36.15 | _stefanos_ | perfect |
| 17:36.17 | jhutchins_lt | davidroderick: Why did you turn it on? |
| 17:36.20 | _stefanos_ | that covered me a lot :) |
| 17:36.58 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: I must confess I only use mplayer regularly. |
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| 17:37.53 | _stefanos_ | i want to use tools for backing up my DVDs. I have my nephews coming at my room and messing around and cannot risk it leaving the original DVDs around them! |
| 17:37.54 | eshat | ia32-libs-gtk is broken due to new ia32-libs version in sid.... any workaround ? |
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| 17:39.40 | eshat | okay, a downgrade helped |
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| 17:40.13 | abrotman | _stefanos_: lock the door? |
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| 17:40.47 | _stefanos_ | lock the door? Nope, not a good idea. |
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| 17:41.38 | eft | hi |
| 17:41.41 | davidroderick | Of all jhutchins_lt I don't think that I did turn it on |
| 17:41.50 | davidroderick | typo |
| 17:42.21 | davidroderick | I installed postgresql and ruby1.9.0 via apt-get |
| 17:42.23 | karlpinc | davidroderick: If you're firewalling the first principle is to deny everything, then less pass only what you want. |
| 17:43.30 | eft | could someone pls clarify this field in cpuinfo: "address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual" on a 64 bit machine. I wasn't able to find an explanation that made sense to me on the web. |
| 17:43.55 | jhutchins_lt | davidroderick: What process is listening on that port? |
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| 17:45.29 | davidroderick | jhutchins_lt: what is the command? |
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| 17:46.01 | davidroderick | netstat -p not it |
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| 17:46.17 | niklaswe | davidroderick: netstat -lntpu |
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| 17:48.18 | jhutchins_lt | niklaswe: Thanks. |
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| 17:49.03 | davidroderick | The process is a rack config.ru for ruby web framework |
| 17:49.25 | davidroderick | I like Debian the most of all the OS |
| 17:49.35 | davidroderick | I used it 4 days now |
| 17:50.00 | davidroderick | okay thanks |
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| 17:53.16 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
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| 17:54.54 | ShapeShifter499 | I deiced to switch to the opensource ATI drivers but I don't know quite how to... I tried to create a new xorg config file and failed how do I set up the xorg file? |
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| 17:56.44 | jordanm | ShapeShifter499: you don't need one for open source drivers |
| 17:57.04 | ShapeShifter499 | oh? |
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| 17:58.18 | ShapeShifter499 | jordanm, what about the debian wiki, it showed what to put in the xorg file |
| 17:59.23 | jordanm | ShapeShifter499: probably legacy stuff left in. it was required in etch, and it does not hurt to have |
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| 17:59.55 | ShapeShifter499 | jordanm, ok I'm using squeeze how do I tell if the open source ati drivers are in use? |
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| 18:00.14 | jordanm | ShapeShifter499: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 18:00.26 | jordanm | glxinfo might also tell you |
| 18:00.35 | mms_ | any one knows how to back out of install from select and install software screen....after choosing mirror...its stuck ....so want to choose different mirror...I am trying debian guest on vbox. |
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| 18:01.46 | retrospectacus | every time I connect to my wireless at home, my resolv.conf is written with bad nameservers from my work when I was there before |
| 18:02.20 | jordanm | retrospectacus: should it be overwritting via dhcp? do you have resolvconf installed? |
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| 18:03.04 | mms_ | I am using netinst iso |
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| 18:04.05 | mms_ | any knows how to interrupt install ? |
| 18:04.16 | mms_ | and back up to previous screen ? |
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| 18:04.43 | retrospectacus | jordanm: yes it is installed. The wireless is done by gnome network manager, the wired (work) I did with dhclient at the time |
| 18:05.05 | ShapeShifter499 | jordanm, ok if I'm looking at this right.... the open source ati drivers ARE in use ---> output if cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 18:05.25 | ShapeShifter499 | *output of |
| 18:05.31 | mms_ | abrotman: know how to go back to previous screen during install. The current screen has only progress bar for select and install software. |
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| 18:07.34 | ShapeShifter499 | jordanm, ok I just tested compiz effects, they are now working where they didn't when I was using the closed source ati drivers |
| 18:07.35 | jordanm | ShapeShifter499: you can pastebin the output in you are unsure |
| 18:08.04 | ShapeShifter499 | jordanm, opps I just notice I didn't paste the pastebin link sorry http://pastebin.com/D6AaMQXm |
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| 18:08.50 | Mikaze | Hello. Just installed the latest Squeeze build and am not getting full root access. When performing an "su -", I get an "-su: [: : integer expression expected" error. Any clues? |
| 18:09.10 | jordanm | ShapeShifter499: yep, thats using open source |
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| 18:09.44 | jordanm | Mikaze: su -l? |
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| 18:09.59 | Mikaze | tries it. |
| 18:10.39 | Mikaze | Same error. |
| 18:10.52 | jelly-home | Mikaze: have you messed with your /root/ dot files? |
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| 18:11.21 | jordanm | specifically, adding a test... |
| 18:11.26 | ShapeShifter499 | jordanm, lol its funny how some open source things(like drivers) can work better than proprietary stuff |
| 18:11.42 | Mikaze | Yes. Ended up overwriting .profile and .bashrc from the last squeeze box. |
| 18:12.04 | jordanm | Mikaze: your .bashrc has something bad in it, likely a bad test statement |
| 18:12.36 | Mikaze | Hmmm. Thought it might be how I'd set the path. |
| 18:13.11 | ShapeShifter499 | jordanm, thanks for the help |
| 18:13.20 | jordanm | Mikaze: the error specifically shows thats is an error in the "[" command |
| 18:13.25 | jordanm | ShapeShifter499: anytime |
| 18:13.25 | jelly-home | Mikaze: use something like su - -c '/bin/bash --norc' and see if avoiding the dot files gives you a working shell |
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| 18:14.11 | jelly-home | Mikaze: there's also --noprofile. RFTM, section INVOCATION |
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| 18:14.28 | Mikaze | I get a working shell. It just doesn't give full root access. Tried running rkhunter (a rootkit detector) and it said I couldn't run it. |
| 18:14.34 | mind23 | anyone in with experience to block vulnerability scanners, spamming apache? |
| 18:14.43 | jordanm | Mikaze: what is the exact error? |
| 18:14.45 | jelly-home | Mikaze: "doesn't give full root access?" |
| 18:15.00 | jordanm | either you have a EUID of 0 or you don't |
| 18:15.21 | jelly-home | Mikaze: you avoided running (presumably buggy) dot files... this means no env.variables will be set, including root's PATH |
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| 18:15.41 | jelly-home | Mikaze: what does "id" command say? |
| 18:17.10 | Mikaze | echo $UID is 0. |
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| 18:18.23 | jelly-home | Mikaze: that's not what we asked |
| 18:18.33 | Mikaze | gets zilch for ID, and id |
| 18:18.55 | jelly-home | Mikaze: "id" is a command, /usr/bin/id |
| 18:19.09 | Mikaze | id says nothing. |
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| 18:19.39 | jelly-home | Mikaze: what about echo $PATH ? |
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| 18:20.31 | jelly-home | Mikaze: also, ls -l /usr/bin/id, |
| 18:20.38 | jelly-home | (without the last ,) |
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| 18:21.21 | Mikaze | /root/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin |
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| 18:22.40 | jordanm | Mikaze: what was the error that you are getting when you try to run the intended command? |
| 18:22.43 | Mikaze | Hang on... |
| 18:23.25 | jelly-home | Mikaze: you have /root/bin in the shell you ran with --norc? Iinteresting. |
| 18:26.56 | sphenxes | Is there a backports non-free software for squeeze or should i use those of lenny? |
| 18:26.59 | Mikaze | Nope. All the appropriate .bash* and .profile are the right owner and chmod 660. |
| 18:27.21 | jordanm | sphenxes: backports is a service for the stable release. it will not be available to squeeze until it is stable |
| 18:27.37 | jordanm | Mikaze: I don't think that was ever asked |
| 18:27.48 | sphenxes | jordanm, thanks |
| 18:27.49 | jordanm | Mikaze: but if ask you the permission on root's dotfiles, will you tell me what the error is? |
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| 18:29.19 | Mikaze | rivensight:# rkhunter --check --summary |
| 18:29.19 | Mikaze | You must be the root user to run this program. |
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| 18:29.48 | jelly-home | jordanm: it's a good thing you don't have to busy-poll the channel but can go and do something interesting in the meantime |
| 18:30.37 | jordanm | jelly-home: busy-poll? |
| 18:30.39 | Mikaze | /bin/id returns: -su: /bin/id: No such file or directory |
| 18:31.03 | jordanm | Mikaze: thats because its /usr/bin/id |
| 18:31.06 | jhutchins_lt | sphenxes: Theoretically updated packages go directly into squeeze instead of int squeeze backports. |
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| 18:31.43 | Mikaze | /usr/bin/id returns: uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) |
| 18:31.58 | jordanm | early it didn't return anything, what heppened? |
| 18:32.11 | jelly-home | jordanm: maybe he's just 15 minutes lagged |
| 18:32.12 | sphenxes | jhutchins, i think i don't understand what is backports. I thought it is the repository for non-free software. |
| 18:32.23 | andre_pl | I'm trying to fdisk a drive and when a try to write the changes I get 'Device or resource busy' the drive isn't mounted anywhere. it was part of a software raid array at one point.. but I failed it |
| 18:32.32 | jhutchins_lt | sphenxes: No, that's "non-free". |
| 18:32.33 | jordanm | Mikaze: id -u |
| 18:32.54 | Mikaze | No, I'm blind, have to replay the entire screen to catch up, and have to virtual-cursor up to have something spelled out. |
| 18:33.01 | jhutchins_lt | sphenxes: backports is for newer packages that could possibly break the stable release, made available for new features as opposed to security updates. |
| 18:33.16 | jordanm | Mikaze: ah, I recall working with you before |
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| 18:33.42 | jhutchins_lt | sphenxes: http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 explains it. |
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| 18:33.55 | sphenxes | jhutchins_lt, thanks |
| 18:34.21 | Mikaze | considers just deleting all the startup files and sees what happens. |
| 18:35.08 | Mikaze | renames them without the dot, instead. |
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| 18:37.00 | Mikaze | Even doing that causes a "-su: [: : integer expression expected" error when performing an: su - |
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| 18:37.24 | Mikaze | has to get ready for dialysys...bbl. |
| 18:38.52 | amanita_ | I just heard about a debian based rolling release distro, Linux Mint. |
| 18:39.28 | _stefanos_ | i have installed gcc-4.2 and i cannot load it. i ran "locate gcc" to find where is has been installed and cannot find it anywhere |
| 18:40.12 | jordanm | _stefanos_: dpkg _L gcc-4.2 |
| 18:40.17 | jordanm | -L |
| 18:40.20 | _stefanos_ | ok |
| 18:41.03 | _stefanos_ | package gcc-4.2 is not installed...i just installed it! |
| 18:41.27 | jordanm | apparently not |
| 18:42.16 | _stefanos_ | no, it's installed. i had my terminal opened while it was installing it |
| 18:42.28 | _stefanos_ | i don't have though a .bash_profile |
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| 18:43.25 | jordanm | what does .bash_profile have to do with anything? |
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| 18:44.08 | _stefanos_ | wrong channel :P in my $PATH /usr/bin is included where gcc is located, and when i type gcc-4.3 it cannot find it |
| 18:44.17 | _stefanos_ | i have to type it with /usr/bin to make it work |
| 18:44.47 | jordanm | !tell _stefanos_ about cross-post |
| 18:45.19 | _stefanos_ | what's a cross post? |
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| 18:46.55 | _stefanos_ | jordanm, i did it by accident, sorry man ;) |
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| 18:47.44 | hyperzid | Hi.. I have an western digital external disk with GPT filesystem.. I'm only able to mount it read only.. anyone know how I can mount it rw? |
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| 18:50.18 | jelly-home | hyperzid: pastebin the output of "blkid", run as root, and point out the partition you're trying to mount rw |
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| 18:51.19 | hyperzid | jelly-home, /dev/sdf1: LABEL="EFI" UUID="3F3C-1AF6" TYPE="vfat" /dev/sdf2: UUID="3c8f40bb-e4de-3675-9f7f-cc28a39e0089" LABEL="Untitled" TYPE="hfsplus" |
| 18:51.42 | atomx | i have 2 computers on my table, and when I move the hands on the laptop,i keep the hands on the desktop's keyboard, and i wish to block somehow the desktop's keyboard. both of them are running debian. how can i block it in debian ? |
| 18:52.54 | jelly-home | hyperzid: so you want to mount a OSX hfsplus filesystem read-write. I don't know if Linux supports that |
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| 18:53.24 | jelly-home | !hfsplus |
| 18:53.24 | dpkg | HFS Plus / HFS+ (aka Mac OS Extended) is a filesystem used in modern Mac systems, replacing <HFS>. <MBR> partition ID: 0xAF. Supports smaller block sizes and UNIX-like features such as symlinks and device stubs. The Linux hfsplus filesystem driver can read/write HFS+ filesystems, tools are in the hfsprogs (mkfs.hfsplus) and hfsplus packages. <parted> can resize HFS+ (shrink only) provided the start of the partition stays fixed. |
| 18:53.33 | atomx | one idea is to commute on a console, where I have just mingetty running. even if i press the keyboard with the hands, i will never login. when i want to use it again, i commute it on the useful console |
| 18:53.46 | atomx | another idea do you have ? |
| 18:54.20 | hyperzid | jelly-home, what should I format the disk as.. to work good under mac/windows and Linux? |
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| 18:55.23 | jelly-home | hyperzid: hm. if NTFS has rw support in OSX, it would be an option. ntfs-3g driver supports read-write ntfs for Linux. |
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| 19:00.13 | hyperzid | jelly-home, are you sure hfsplus in rw mode is not supported by Linux?.. |
| 19:01.08 | jelly-home | hyperzid: I said I don't know, and I stand by that statement. |
| 19:01.19 | hyperzid | Ok. I'll find out. |
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| 19:01.57 | gunther44 | how do i find out what the latest version of imagemagick is in testing? |
| 19:02.44 | qq- | , versions imagemagick |
| 19:02.44 | judd | imagemagick -- etch: 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-0.15+etch1; etch-security: 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-0.15+etch1; etch-backports: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg1-3~lenny1~bpo40+1; lenny: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg2-1~lenny3; lenny-security: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg2-1~lenny3; sid: 8:6.6.0.4-2.2; squeeze: 8:6.6.0.4-2.2 |
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| 19:03.19 | jelly-home | gunther44: it sounds like 6.6.0.4 ! |
| 19:03.20 | nunners | Has anyone got any experience of installing funambol on Debian Lenny (5)? Having a few problems.... |
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| 19:05.05 | qq- | versions funambol: judd Sorry, no package named 'funambol' was found |
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| 19:05.31 | nunners | Sorry... funambol 8.0.7.... |
| 19:05.50 | nunners | ***** 8.7.0! |
| 19:06.12 | jordanm | nunners: typically only software that is shipped by debian is supported here |
| 19:06.48 | nunners | jordanm: ok... just thought a helpful soul might have been able to give some advice!!!!??? |
| 19:06.52 | gunther44 | thanks guys |
| 19:07.07 | gunther44 | however, trying to install dependencies gives: E: Build-Depends dependency for imagemagick cannot be satisfied because the package libltdl-dev cannot be found |
| 19:07.19 | nunners | jordanm: unfortunately the funambol group aren't very active - i.e. non-existent... |
| 19:07.46 | qq- | , versions libltdl-dev |
| 19:07.47 | judd | libltdl-dev -- lenny-backports: 2.2.6b-2~bpo50+1; sid: 2.2.6b-2; squeeze: 2.2.6b-2; experimental: 2.2.10-1 |
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| 19:08.52 | qq- | gunther44, seems you upgraded from lenny , right ? |
| 19:08.56 | gunther44 | no |
| 19:09.02 | gunther44 | install of lenny direct |
| 19:09.43 | gunther44 | i'm having huge problems that i've spent all day on. i've tried to upgrade imagemagick, then pecl installed imagick, but php-fpm segfaults |
| 19:10.01 | qq- | gunther44, so use lenny versions |
| 19:10.07 | gunther44 | i've manually compiled imagemagick, still no joy |
| 19:10.17 | gunther44 | i need to use > 3.7 that's in stable |
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| 19:13.45 | monkey_d_luffy | I have just installed squeeze with KDE on my laptop, but suspend to RAM is not working. How do I fix this? I don't have a swap file/partition, but I also shouldn't need one for that to work, right? |
| 19:13.54 | gunther44 | well, thanks anyway guys! |
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| 19:14.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | he left! |
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| 19:14.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | just when I was about 80% through reading his stuff |
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| 19:15.54 | qq- | he'll come back .. |
| 19:16.18 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: don't even start reading before three minutes pass |
| 19:16.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | pft |
| 19:16.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, that's what I did! |
| 19:16.32 | jelly-home | if they go away, they didn't want an answer that much anyway |
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| 19:17.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | monkey_d_luffy, you type "s2ram" as root and what happens? |
| 19:18.05 | qq- | add to topic : timeout 10 min , before answers |
| 19:18.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | can't stand that suspend stuff.. either it works or it doesn't and if it doesn't... |
| 19:18.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | !suspend |
| 19:18.23 | dpkg | Suspend can mean either suspend to disk (a.k.a. hibernate) or suspend to RAM. The in-kernel suspend now works pretty well in etch (and even better in lenny). There are also kernel patches that provide more features such as <tuxonice>. Installing the uswsusp and hibernate packages along with a front-end like gnome-power-manager or kpowersave should be enough. Also ask me about <suspend troubleshooting>, <swapwake> and <noresume>. |
| 19:19.07 | monkey_d_luffy | CutMeOwnThroat: I was just googling the debian wiki, and it does mention the use of s2ram that was in package uswsusp, but that package doesn't exist in squeeze. |
| 19:19.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | it doesn'T? |
| 19:19.45 | jelly-home | ,versions uswsusp |
| 19:19.47 | judd | uswsusp -- etch: 0.3~cvs20060928-7etch1; lenny: 0.7-1.2; sid: 0.8-1.2+b1 |
| 19:19.54 | jelly-home | !why is uswsusp not in testing |
| 19:19.54 | dpkg | uswsusp is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=uswsusp |
| 19:20.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh joy |
| 19:20.29 | jelly-home | shrug |
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| 19:20.51 | monkey_d_luffy | lol... the wonders of the foss world :) |
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| 19:21.15 | monkey_d_luffy | mmm... will I get lucky if I compile it or try a ubuntu deb? |
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| 19:21.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | it works well for me in lenny |
| 19:21.29 | jelly-home | monkey_d_luffy: now _that'd_ be silly. |
| 19:22.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | lots of grave, serious and critical bugs (5 alltogether) wonder where they come from |
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| 19:22.10 | monkey_d_luffy | what would be the best solution then? |
| 19:22.11 | jhutchins | monkey_d_luffy: You could try to backport it from sid |
| 19:22.17 | jhutchins | !tell monkey_d_luffy about ssb |
| 19:22.18 | jelly-home | monkey_d_luffy: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 19:22.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | shouldn't be needed... installing sid into testing should be ok |
| 19:22.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | specially now during the freeze |
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| 19:22.52 | jelly-home | monkey_d_luffy: I haven't said this, but you'd probably be able to download and use the package from sid as-is |
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| 19:23.26 | monkey_d_luffy | ok thanks. I'll give it a go. |
| 19:23.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, you said that... we all HEARD you |
| 19:23.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, read anyway |
| 19:23.55 | jelly-home | monkey_d_luffy: just... read those bug reports and try staying away from the configuration those people use :-) |
| 19:23.55 | qq- | but no swap doesn't means no s2ram , right ? |
| 19:24.23 | jhutchins | qq-: Right. |
| 19:24.24 | monkey_d_luffy | jelly-home: ehhe... yes, fortunately no ext4 or swap partition here |
| 19:24.29 | jelly-home | qq-: s2disk is dependent on swap or file image. s2ram shouldn't be. |
| 19:24.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | right... all those bugs are for suspend to disk |
| 19:24.48 | qq- | i see |
| 19:24.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | well ok, so I don't have ext4 and not a swapffile instead of a partition |
| 19:25.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | so that's kind of a pretty special bug |
| 19:25.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | "the swap partition is sort of de-formatted" ... sort of? |
| 19:26.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, doesn't sound like a bug to me... more like what s2disk is supposed to do |
| 19:26.05 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: the dump replaces the normal swap signature with its own stuff |
| 19:26.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, right... that was my thought... so that's kind of a dumb bug description |
| 19:26.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | the un-dumping doesn't work and then the swap partition is botched |
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| 19:27.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | although... that didn't happen for me either - I had s2disk fail on me before, but it never shreddered the swap so that you had to re-make it |
| 19:27.25 | jelly-home | TuxOnIce has historically been better for me than uswsusp, I started using uswsusp merely because it was less hassle (already in kernel, and already in distro) |
| 19:27.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, they get to that... just need to read on :) |
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| 19:28.28 | jelly-home | uswsusp had all sorts of brown-paper-bag bugs |
| 19:28.59 | jhutchins | bpbb? |
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| 19:29.11 | monkey_d_luffy | so why did debian opt for swsusp instead of tuxonice? |
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| 19:29.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, I just see... loads of fun when my laptop will go to squeeze |
| 19:29.38 | jelly-home | monkey_d_luffy: TuxOnIce is a patch outside of the linux kernel tree |
| 19:29.49 | monkey_d_luffy | i see |
| 19:30.00 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: taking a look at those bugs... I see "works as usual" |
| 19:30.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, brown paper bag? means they're so ugly you put it over them, or does it make eople puke? |
| 19:30.38 | qq- | s/eople/people |
| 19:30.45 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: when the author is expected to wear one not to get recognized in the street |
| 19:30.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | I should probably upgrade, so I can file some more bug reports before there's a stable release writing things in stone :( |
| 19:31.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | eye sea |
| 19:31.33 | jelly-home | oh well. uswsusp from sid, djbdns from sid, freeradius from upstream, linked with openssl... life goes on |
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| 19:32.52 | qq- | jelly-home, put them on backports (maybe squeeze .. as it is empty yet) |
| 19:33.18 | jelly-home | qq-: DDs do backports, I'm not one |
| 19:33.30 | jhutchins | Ah. "All those compiler errors? Oh, I just ignore them." |
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| 19:33.51 | jelly-home | jhutchins: yeah, gnutls is a nasty thing |
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| 19:34.38 | qq- | jelly-home, ah, maybe found a user backports repos |
| 19:35.46 | jelly-home | qq-: they're not that hard to backport. I haven't tried uswsusp yet. |
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| 19:36.16 | jelly-home | djbdns is not in squeeze basically because ftpmasters don't like DJB |
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| 19:37.12 | jelly-home | freeradius... well, there's some pieces of infrastructure I need to work, and also someone else builds it instead of me so the choice is easy ;-) |
| 19:37.12 | jimcooncat | maybe it's more like djb didn't like fhs? |
| 19:37.52 | jimcooncat | sorry, didn't resist trolling ^^ I'll stop |
| 19:38.00 | jelly-home | jimcooncat: maybe the packages cater to both FHS way and DJB way, based on debconf question |
| 19:38.16 | qq- | jelly, it's not about backporting , it's about making them available to users |
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| 19:38.56 | jelly-home | qq-: oh... the users of enterprisey software should be able to backport stuff themselves |
| 19:39.39 | qq- | sure, maybe same aren't .. heh |
| 19:39.43 | jordanm | jelly-home: I am pretty sure the freeradius issue is due to the whole GPL + openssl thing |
| 19:39.44 | jelly-home | qq-: I mean, would you trust some random repo owner to keep their repo and binaries intrustion free? |
| 19:40.01 | jelly-home | qq-: if yes -- go and use ppa repos. ;-) |
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| 19:42.04 | monkey_d_luffy | SUCKESSSSSSSSSSS swsusp (from sid) to ram works fine with KDE4 in squeeze ^_^ |
| 19:42.19 | jelly-home | jordanm: it makes the binary package useless in whichever case |
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| 19:42.32 | qq- | jelly-home, not a personal needs , just kidding |
| 19:42.43 | monkey_d_luffy | I mean, I configured the kde applet to sleep to ram on the lid close, and it worked nicely |
| 19:42.43 | jordanm | jelly-home: aggreed, the one time I worked with it I had to rebuild it for SSL support |
| 19:43.22 | monkey_d_luffy | I guess a lot of those bugs (from 2007 or 2008) no longer apply, and just act as fear mongers |
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| 19:48.33 | karlpinc | FYI: This http://wiki.freeradius.org/Build seems to imply that freeradius/openssl problems are solved in freeradius 2.1.9. (Just trying to figure out what the problem really is....) |
| 19:48.41 | rolandpish | Each apt pinning entry must be done for one package at a time? i.e. a line like Package: geany* doesn't work? |
| 19:52.43 | jhutchins_lt | Debian bts has a serious problem with stale bugs. |
| 19:53.26 | jhutchins_lt | Mandriva put some people to work cleaning up old bugs and triaging new ones and it vastly improved the usefulness of their system. |
| 19:53.46 | jhutchins_lt | (They still use bugzilla though, and bugzilla's search engine is notoriously horrible.) |
| 19:54.18 | brummbaer | agrees, can't find my old bugs for poo |
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| 19:59.06 | datacrusher | hello! iv installed nvidia drivers in my recently debian 64 install, following the wiki article about the "debian way", downloaded modules, m-a, nvidia-xconfig... but still got 640x |
| 19:59.26 | datacrusher | tryed nvidia-settings -g got "cannot open display ' ' " |
| 19:59.26 | jhutchins_lt | I think it's interesting how generally civil #debian is without any moderators pouncing on every off-color word. |
| 19:59.44 | jhutchins_lt | datacrusher: You are getting help from jordanm on oftc. |
| 20:01.19 | sedulous | jhutchins_lt: the absence of @ helps |
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| 20:09.41 | Magicblaze007 | For a fresh install, do I need the update DVD as well or just DVD 1-5? |
| 20:10.24 | jordanm | Magicblaze007: most people don't want the DVDs, just the 160mb netinst |
| 20:10.35 | ChaozZBubi | http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/jx08f5hv/464_0.jpg |
| 20:10.37 | ChaozZBubi | :) |
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| 20:11.58 | Magicblaze007 | I almost have the DVDs and have to install it on multiple machines, so I thought the DVDs would be nice. |
| 20:12.06 | Magicblaze007 | What is the update dvd for? |
| 20:12.22 | jordanm | point releases. eg. 5.0.0 -> 5.0.6 |
| 20:12.35 | jordanm | the DVDs include *all* of debian main |
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| 20:13.18 | Magicblaze007 | perfect, then i dont need it. thanks |
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| 20:26.36 | monkey_d_luffy | What exactly does a freeze mean (in respect to squeeze)? I just discovered a bug that has been fixed in KDE 4.5.2 (possibly using qt 4.7 would fix it as well). What can I expect for it to be imported to squeeze? |
| 20:26.54 | abrotman | monkey_d_luffy: has a bug been filed? |
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| 20:27.46 | DDRP | Squeeze is going to pwn |
| 20:27.55 | thewanderer1 | yeah |
| 20:28.17 | thewanderer1 | I've just launched Diablo II on the free nouveau drivers |
| 20:28.29 | monkey_d_luffy | abrotman: yep it has, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=577475 But no feedback there that it has been fixed in upstream |
| 20:28.30 | phogg | oh, wow |
| 20:28.36 | abrotman | monkey_d_luffy: the freeze roughly means that only bug fixes get in .. and they can't have a major impact on fuctionality |
| 20:28.44 | phogg | thewanderer1: I hadn't realized they were that complete |
| 20:28.51 | _stefanos_ | now that you brought up this subject, i wanted to ask, does squeeze includes the latest packages that waiting for approval or something, or more people to test them for bugs? |
| 20:29.03 | abrotman | phogg: how do you think diablo requires good graphics funtionality? |
| 20:29.11 | thewanderer1 | phogg: I still get glitches here and there, but it's usable for the desktop |
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| 20:29.11 | _stefanos_ | because through stable i can barely find the apps i need to use |
| 20:29.23 | monkey_d_luffy | thewanderer1: does 3D works as well? (D2 is 2D, but I'm curious about 3D) |
| 20:29.26 | thewanderer1 | actually I was getting about 10fps, but performance is optional... |
| 20:29.53 | thewanderer1 | glxgears: 50fps |
| 20:30.03 | thewanderer1 | this on GeForce 2 MX or so |
| 20:30.23 | phogg | thewanderer1: when I can run war3 under wine I'll switch to the free drivers. If you've got diablo ii, that's not too far off. |
| 20:30.28 | thewanderer1 | :P |
| 20:30.35 | phogg | I'll have to try it again soon |
| 20:30.41 | thewanderer1 | it could be the graphics card as well |
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| 20:31.11 | thewanderer1 | I'd test it with GeForce 5500, but my cooler is out and it'd burn without it :P |
| 20:31.23 | monkey_d_luffy | so I guess this bug isn't going to be fixed, since it has been in KDE 4.5.2 and QT 4.7 :' |
| 20:31.25 | thewanderer1 | however, I can already say that KDE4.4 works pretty nice with that |
| 20:31.26 | monkey_d_luffy | :'( |
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| 20:32.12 | phogg | thewanderer1: if only kde4 worked well at all |
| 20:32.28 | thewanderer1 | 1 crash a day keeps the boredom away |
| 20:32.33 | jelly-home | monkey_d_luffy: so mention it's been fixed yourself, point to the fix in upstream and beg for a pull of that fix only if possible |
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| 20:32.40 | phogg | heh, one crash a day and I might as well be using windows |
| 20:33.09 | phogg | it's not just crashes, though, it's excessive CPU usage and random stuttering |
| 20:33.20 | wooden | phogg: no need to be extreme. just use another de if kde doesn't work for you. |
| 20:33.30 | phogg | wooden: I do, I'm just saying. |
| 20:33.31 | jelly-home | phogg: works well on my 4 core intel gpu machine at work |
| 20:33.53 | phogg | It's frustrating *because* kde is so nice otherwise |
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| 20:34.08 | thewanderer1 | is quite glad with his Vectra VL400 256MB RAM now and LXDE on Squeeze |
| 20:34.54 | tuvwx | where are the stable netinst torrents? |
| 20:35.00 | thewanderer1 | Chromium is not exactly light, neither is Pidgin, but generally Squeeze is gonna be the killer distro for old PC's, as Debian's always been |
| 20:35.11 | phogg | jelly-home: for me whenever I try to switch to KDE I experience X lockups or crashes within two weeks, forcing me to restart X. |
| 20:35.32 | phogg | of course it has gotten better. In the early 4.x days it was within hours. |
| 20:35.42 | jordanm | tuvwx: i don't think there is. its only 160mb. i believe torrents are only for the larger CDs and dvds, but I could be wrong |
| 20:36.07 | jordanm | thewanderer1: chromium will not be included with squeeze |
| 20:36.23 | phogg | good riddance, who needs it? |
| 20:36.44 | jelly-home | phogg: sounds like driver issues triggered by 'GL software, not actual software issues |
| 20:37.02 | thewanderer1 | jordanm: no? huh... actually I have some Chromium package but I can't track its origin :P |
| 20:37.09 | tuvwx | jordanm: i have netinst torrents for 5.0.4 and 5.0.5, but can't find 5.0.6 netinst now. not sure if they were (re)moved, or if i just can't locate it |
| 20:37.21 | phogg | jelly-home: some of it yeah, but other things no. I had kget hang on me and become unkillable, for example |
| 20:37.29 | jordanm | thewanderer1: marked for removal last thursday |
| 20:37.37 | thewanderer1 | jordanm: why? |
| 20:37.38 | jelly-home | phogg: that's a friggin kernel bug right there |
| 20:37.43 | phogg | jelly-home: eventually enough things enter a stuck state and I can't recover |
| 20:37.55 | thewanderer1 | not stable enough? |
| 20:38.29 | tuvwx | jordanm: hmm.. it could also be that i just placed the netinst iso's with the complete images and thought that I got them via torrent :/ |
| 20:38.32 | jordanm | thewanderer1: maintainer: I am uploading a new version 6 to fix security bug; release-team: no new upstream versions around; maintainer: I am uploading it anyways. remove 5 from testing or let 6 migrate; release-team: removed |
| 20:38.32 | thewanderer1 | hey, do I still need to configure X.org on Squeeze to use nvidia binary drivers? |
| 20:38.50 | jordanm | s/around/allowed/ |
| 20:38.59 | jelly-home | phogg: but yeah, it doesn't work for you, and it's irrelevant what the real cause is if it's only triggered within kde |
| 20:39.01 | thewanderer1 | jordanm: ah, ok... crap :P |
| 20:39.06 | jordanm | thewanderer1: yes |
| 20:39.13 | phogg | as long as we have rekonq I think chromium-browser is a bit pointless |
| 20:39.20 | thewanderer1 | no KDE here :( |
| 20:39.20 | jordanm | thewanderer1: it hit lwn.net news the next day |
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| 20:39.48 | phogg | jelly-home: ultimately yes. It's hard to compete with "never crashes for any reason," but that's what I need |
| 20:39.48 | thewanderer1 | I'm not gonna Squeeze KDE into 256M RAM :P |
| 20:39.55 | jordanm | phogg: that appears to use kde, whereas chromium uses gtk |
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| 20:40.01 | jordanm | s/kde/qt/ |
| 20:40.24 | phogg | jordanm: a trivial difference from where I sit. |
| 20:40.35 | amphi | midori is gtk-based |
| 20:40.40 | phogg | with my 8G of ram and so forth |
| 20:40.53 | jordanm | ,versions rekonq |
| 20:40.55 | judd | rekonq -- sid: 0.5.0-2; squeeze: 0.5.0-2 |
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| 20:41.40 | jelly-home | ,versions chromium-browser |
| 20:41.42 | judd | chromium-browser -- sid: 6.0.472.53~r57914-3 |
| 20:41.58 | phogg | judd: doesn't say much about the base webkit version, though |
| 20:42.32 | monkey_d_luffy | use Opera ^_^ |
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| 20:42.49 | phogg | monkey_d_luffy: I will do so as soon as it's GPL'd |
| 20:43.24 | jelly-home | hee |
| 20:44.23 | jelly-home | phogg: you'd have to hunt thru upstream's changelog for that, seeing as it uses a separate webkit tree |
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| 20:45.20 | jelly-home | phogg: lwn links to this thread http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.release/37042 |
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| 20:49.19 | phogg | jelly-home: I saw it already, I believe it was thewanderer1 who was asking |
| 20:50.37 | jelly-home | now he's highlighted, so all is well |
| 20:51.25 | jelly-home | oh, thewandered away |
| 20:52.55 | monkey_d_luffy | jelly-home: I sent an email to 577475@bugs.debian.... asking for the integration of the upstream. Is this the correct way? I'm refreshing the webpage and I don't see my message yet. |
| 20:53.22 | jordanm | monkey_d_luffy: it typically takes a couple ours before it shows up on the web |
| 20:53.28 | monkey_d_luffy | ok |
| 20:53.57 | jordanm | also, the bts implements greylisting, so it will likely be another 10min or so before you email gets there |
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| 20:54.32 | pixie | anyone here have thinkpad x40? |
| 20:55.09 | jelly-home | pixie probably has one. |
| 20:55.11 | jelly-home | hides |
| 20:55.21 | pixie | indeed |
| 20:55.25 | wooden | pixie: i have one |
| 20:55.26 | trijntje | Hi all, is there someone here who can explain the meaning of a string in NetworkManager to me, I need to translate it |
| 20:55.39 | wooden | pixie: and it even has debian on it |
| 20:55.41 | pixie | wooden: do you happen to have the i855 network chipset? |
| 20:55.56 | jelly-home | i855 sounds more like graphics |
| 20:56.02 | pixie | wops |
| 20:56.04 | pixie | i meant graphics |
| 20:56.05 | jordanm | trijntje: what is it |
| 20:56.08 | pixie | no idae why network came out |
| 20:56.10 | wooden | pixie: can't remember off the top of my head. :( |
| 20:56.17 | pixie | wooden: lspci |
| 20:56.31 | trijntje | the string is: "unable to enable netlink handle credential passing: %s" |
| 20:56.33 | wooden | pixie: i don't have it here or i would do that for you |
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| 20:56.39 | pixie | wooden: awh :( thanks anyway |
| 20:56.51 | jelly-home | pixie: if running squeeze you'll want to disable KMS on that, buggy for lots of people |
| 20:56.52 | wooden | pixie: what's your question though, if i did have it? |
| 20:57.01 | thewanderer1 | hi, I need some legacy nvidia drivers but a search in Squeeze only reveals 173xx whereas I need 96xx |
| 20:57.12 | pixie | jelly-home: KMS? |
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| 20:57.31 | jordanm | ,versions nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx |
| 20:57.33 | judd | nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx -- lenny/non-free: 96.43.07-2; sid/non-free: 96.43.18-1 |
| 20:57.45 | jordanm | !why is nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx not in testing |
| 20:57.45 | dpkg | nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx |
| 20:57.48 | jelly-home | pixie: bugs.debian.org/xserver-xorg-video-intel, and/or follow the "current problems" links in the #debian-x channel topic (on oftc) |
| 20:58.43 | wooden | pixie: i don't know what you're running now, but i was pleasantly surprised to see that with the upgrade to squeeze, S3 suspend to ram started working on my X40. |
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| 20:59.31 | jordanm | trijntje: you might need someone with knowledge of "netlink" to translate that |
| 20:59.34 | pixie | jelly-home: ah i see :) |
| 20:59.46 | pixie | wooden: x bugs up, just gives me a black screen |
| 20:59.48 | pixie | lets see |
| 21:00.44 | edju | I take it's not a good idea to install amarok 1.4 from lenny when I'm running squeeze. Right? |
| 21:00.48 | foetus | does anyone know how i could disable TLS for anonymous if force TLS is enabled using proftpd? |
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| 21:01.01 | pixie | oh seems i might have to downgrade |
| 21:01.26 | pixie | that sucks |
| 21:01.32 | DotHack | will the Adaptec storage manager be in squeeze? |
| 21:01.49 | jordanm | foetus: its doubtful ftps will work in the case that the network the server is on contains a firewall |
| 21:02.50 | monkey_d_luffy | pixie: I quite didn't get your problem, but if it's being unable to suspend to RAM, install uswsusp from sid. Note that suspend to disk may be broken. |
| 21:02.56 | jelly-home | DotHack: is it in unstable at present time? |
| 21:03.00 | trijntje | jordanm, ill try some reading on netlink, thanks |
| 21:03.11 | DotHack | jelly-home: nope |
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| 21:03.48 | jelly-home | DotHack: is it in debian at all? Is there an ITP filed? |
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| 21:04.38 | jelly-home | DotHack: if it's not in Debian at all, it's unlikely to reach squeeze |
| 21:04.44 | foetus | jordanm: it works. i only like to know how i could disable TLS for the anonymous login. |
| 21:04.45 | pixie | monkey_d_luffy: no its that whenever I startx, the entire screen goes black |
| 21:04.55 | pixie | monkey_d_luffy: and won't allow me to go to another tty or anything, it just goes blind |
| 21:05.01 | pixie | monkey_d_luffy: seems to be a known bug with the intel drivers |
| 21:05.06 | pixie | and it seems I might have to downgrade kernel |
| 21:05.07 | wooden | pixie: if you want to msg me your contact info i can check my graphics chipset when i get home. |
| 21:05.09 | pixie | which sucks ass |
| 21:05.16 | DotHack | jelly-home: ah ok, i was just reading on the linux adaptec blog that they were going to support the next debian release. |
| 21:05.27 | DotHack | so i thought maybe its in the repo |
| 21:05.41 | jelly-home | DotHack: that likely means "our software will work on Debian 6" |
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| 21:06.06 | jelly-home | you'll still have to download it there |
| 21:06.33 | DotHack | jelly-home: ok! thnax |
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| 21:12.57 | foetus | hmm, anonymous login with tls.. probably not what we want |
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| 21:14.34 | qq- | !tls |
| 21:14.34 | dpkg | from memory, tls is Transport Layer Security (ssl), or Thread-Local Storage, or in polish, TrzyLiterowy Skrot, translated to ThreeLetter Acronym, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security |
| 21:16.12 | foetus | TrzyLiterowy Skrot, haha.. |
| 21:16.39 | foetus | not bad..nice |
| 21:17.19 | foetus | maybe PolFTPd.. |
| 21:17.27 | foetus | :) |
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| 21:17.35 | thewanderer1 | no, they have that on PLD... |
| 21:18.23 | foetus | :):) |
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| 21:18.55 | Iszak | Is there a more up-to-date repo that I can use? |
| 21:19.06 | foetus | is laughing for minutes |
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| 21:20.02 | foetus | must trink something. |
| 21:20.05 | qq- | Iszak, /msg dpkg sns |
| 21:20.10 | danielig | hello dpkg |
| 21:20.23 | danielig | and the rest of you mortals ;-) |
| 21:20.53 | Iszak | qq-, and dpkg is a botT? |
| 21:21.05 | qq- | y |
| 21:21.26 | Iszak | I don't get it. |
| 21:21.38 | jelly-home | dpkg: what are you |
| 21:21.38 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more info see <infobot>. |
| 21:21.58 | Iszak | I just don't like using release of PHP, Lighttpd, etc that are out of date and vunerable to security flaws. |
| 21:22.07 | Iszak | s/release/releases/ |
| 21:22.13 | jelly-home | Iszak: debian takes care of security issues. |
| 21:22.29 | Iszak | Still, I'd rather have PHP 5.3.2 then 5.2.x |
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| 21:23.16 | jelly-home | you may have a legitimate need for a newer version, sure |
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| 21:23.24 | thewanderer1 | just moved from nouveau to nvidia-legacy-96xx... the difference is, unfortunately, 50fps versus 800fps... |
| 21:23.32 | SOUL_OF_R00T | thanks when i already come back for the hospital with my mother my debian box has turned on |
| 21:23.43 | jelly-home | Iszak: for the rest of the system, Debian stable is a very good base. |
| 21:24.12 | Iszak | so using old versions of PHP that's prone to security holes is stable? |
| 21:24.42 | jelly-home | !tracker of doom |
| 21:24.42 | dpkg | tracker of doom is, like, a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ or read http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ or http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences |
| 21:25.10 | jelly-home | Iszak: read that page. Which security holes in particular are you worried about? |
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| 21:25.47 | Iszak | jelly-home, none in particular, everything that's been fixed in newer versions in general. |
| 21:26.18 | jelly-home | Iszak: let me reiterate again, do you see anything that hasn't been fixed in debian stable? |
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| 21:27.26 | Iszak | I'm sure there is a lot to go through to answer that question. |
| 21:28.13 | jelly-home | indeed, so reconsider blanket statements like <Iszak> so using old versions of PHP that's prone to security holes is stable? |
| 21:29.11 | Iszak | I don't see where you're going with this. |
| 21:29.20 | qq- | sns's user == one fixed idea 'old' vs 'newer' |
| 21:29.58 | jelly-home | Iszak: old version numbers do not mean unfixed security issues, in any distro. |
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| 21:30.01 | foetus | is disabling anonymous account but he will find a solution |
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| 21:30.56 | Iszak | jelly-home, okay so correct me if I'm wrong but php5-cgi package installed PHP 5.2.6? now we can see in PHP 5.2.13 there were three security enhancements and fixes; that said - 5.2.6 at risk? potentially, yes. |
| 21:31.45 | Iszak | that doesn't include PHP 5.2.14 or any of the other versions between PHP 5.2.6 and the latest. |
| 21:32.27 | jelly-home | Iszak: that's where you find CVE numbers for those fixes and look them up in the security tracker, above |
| 21:32.32 | Iszak | I guess this "Fixed a possible memory corruption in substr_replace()." just doesn't apply for PHP 5.2.6 |
| 21:33.09 | Iszak | I don't see how they can fix these security holes yet not update PHP? they're updating the source - but not updating the version number? |
| 21:33.16 | jelly-home | exactly. |
| 21:33.23 | Iszak | that's just absurd why would they do that. |
| 21:33.51 | Iszak | it's like, lets throw PHP's versioning out the window and do it our way. |
| 21:34.02 | jelly-home | Iszak: to keep the same functionality. PHP is prone to randomly changing APIs and semantics even in patchlevel revisions |
| 21:34.21 | jelly-home | this is what Debian stable is used for... a stable platform. |
| 21:34.49 | Iszak | Do people actually cross reference to see if PHP's API has been randomly changed? or do they just assume. |
| 21:35.03 | jelly-home | Iszak: are you serious? |
| 21:35.06 | Iszak | I mean generally I would like to believe if they changed the API in a mini release it would be for good reason. |
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| 21:35.43 | jelly-home | php's infamous for doing things like that, I can't even be bothered to look up an example |
| 21:36.05 | Iszak | And that is why many software's can work on many different versions of PHP spanning for 4 to 5.3 |
| 21:36.06 | themill | Iszak: PHP adds, removes and changes the meanings of its core functions from one minor version to another. It's a right PITA of a language to deal with in that regard. |
| 21:36.22 | Iszak | themill, I've never experienced it personally so I can't comment. |
| 21:36.24 | themill | Iszak: very little beyond helloworld.php works with both PHP4 and PHP5. |
| 21:36.53 | jelly-home | Iszak: you don't want to know how many people complained here on 5.2 -> 5.3 transition for the next debian release |
| 21:37.05 | Iszak | yes but that's a minor release. |
| 21:37.12 | jelly-home | oh noes! |
| 21:37.15 | Iszak | it's expected to break and I can understand why that'd be withheld, but not mini. |
| 21:37.37 | Iszak | mini releases in general shouldn't break BC. |
| 21:37.52 | themill | Iszak: your emphasis should be on "shouldn't" now go tell that to ##php. |
| 21:37.54 | jelly-home | Iszak: and yet you're asking why Debian 5, which released with 5.2, doesn't carry the latest. |
| 21:38.19 | Iszak | It doesn't have to carry PHP 5.3.3 but it'd be nice if it carried PHP 5.2.14 or atleast it's versioning. |
| 21:38.49 | jelly-home | Iszak: it carries fixes that range up to 5.3.2, and some fixes that aren't in php upstream yet at all |
| 21:39.21 | Iszak | I don't see why it should reserve x version number then. |
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| 21:39.49 | Iszak | Why 5.2.6 why not 5.2.14? |
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| 21:40.08 | jelly-home | you were told why, because upstream likes to break things |
| 21:41.21 | Iszak | As for this nitorious API change in PHP take for example Joomla! which supports from PHP 4.3.10 to 5.3.3 only 2 releases of PHP that apparently causes problems with it which is 4.4.2 and 5.0.4 |
| 21:41.24 | jelly-home | packages written in php that were made to work with whatever version was present at freeze time for debian 5, still need to work. Changing the interpreter underneath would break other software |
| 21:42.48 | Iszak | Perhaps I will just build them myself. |
| 21:42.57 | themill | this would be the first time I've ever seen Joomla held up as an exemplar of good code quality |
| 21:43.11 | Iszak | Yes, I know, it's code is quite shit I am not going to lie. |
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| 21:43.42 | Iszak | Just digging through that source code gives me a headache, however 1.6 is quite an improvement. |
| 21:44.02 | jelly-home | Iszak: feel free to check the other 215 packages depending on php5 for any breakage on 5.2.6 -> 5.2.14, then propose a patch to php-maint list ;-) |
| 21:44.34 | Iszak | why not just check for any API changes from 5.2.6 to 5.2.14 if none, apply it - much more effecient. |
| 21:44.45 | themill | Iszak: umm... you're kidding, right? |
| 21:45.00 | _stefanos_ | guys, can someone help me to find which application is preventing my external hdd to unmount? |
| 21:45.03 | _stefanos_ | thanks |
| 21:45.08 | nkuttler | the point of stable is kinda.. to be stable |
| 21:45.12 | Iszak | well this is what you're complaining about, API changes that break apps - understandable, so why not just look for that? |
| 21:45.24 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: lsof -n |grep /mount/point |
| 21:45.30 | _stefanos_ | thanks |
| 21:45.34 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: run lsof as root |
| 21:46.09 | _stefanos_ | returns nothing |
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| 21:46.41 | _stefanos_ | OK, i will try something i have in mind |
| 21:46.50 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: did you type the correct mount point? |
| 21:46.57 | Iszak | That a side, how far apart are debian releases? |
| 21:46.58 | _stefanos_ | /dev/sdb1 |
| 21:46.59 | _stefanos_ | yes |
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| 21:47.13 | themill | Iszak: at this stage, you should be asking google yourself rather than just playing troll. |
| 21:47.16 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: that's the device, not the mountpoint where it's mounted on |
| 21:47.37 | Iszak | themill, I did actually, couldn't find it was going to assume every 6 months like ubuntu. |
| 21:47.41 | _stefanos_ | even if i try to unmount it as /media/STEFANOS/ it gives me unmount: /media/STEFANOS: device is busy |
| 21:47.54 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: grep for /media/STEFANOS |
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| 21:48.21 | _stefanos_ | jelly-home, you are the man :D |
| 21:48.29 | jelly-home | Iszak: /msg dpkg release history |
| 21:48.34 | Iszak | thanks |
| 21:49.06 | jelly-home | Iszak: for an estimate of how close the next one may be, the grpah at /msg dpkg rc bugs |
| 21:49.12 | jelly-home | graph? |
| 21:49.27 | Iszak | I see there's really no set time frame. |
| 21:49.30 | _stefanos_ | jelly-home, can you tell me, how come a movie that i opened with videolan, caused nautilus to crash (actually kept on running on the background)? |
| 21:49.43 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: "buggy software" |
| 21:49.53 | _stefanos_ | yeah :/ |
| 21:49.57 | _stefanos_ | obviously |
| 21:50.13 | _stefanos_ | anyway, i will write this command down for future reference |
| 21:50.20 | _stefanos_ | i owe you a beer |
| 21:50.29 | Iszak | jelly-home, that is quite disturbing of the number of critical bugs, can only expect upgrading to PHP 5.3.3 to worsen it. |
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| 21:50.41 | Posterdati | !tell posterdati confmiss |
| 21:51.24 | jelly-home | _stefanos_: I'll hold you to that in case we meet at DebConf11 ;-) |
| 21:51.43 | Iszak | jelly-home, okay well all this aside, what's a more rapid release cycle OS for servers? |
| 21:52.18 | _stefanos_ | you may come to Lemesos, Cyprus and then prepare yourself for food and drinks. The only problem though who's gonna take us home?! |
| 21:52.21 | jelly-home | Iszak: IME, "servers" and "rapid release" are clashing requirements |
| 21:52.43 | chupacabra | hehe |
| 21:52.53 | Iszak | perhaps I should define: rapid releases then; something like every 6 months. |
| 21:53.11 | jelly-home | Iszak: I'd be happy with 36 month release and might grudgingly agree to a 24 month + 12 month extra support |
| 21:53.13 | Iszak | Some people actually like keeping their web applications up-to-date. |
| 21:53.41 | Iszak | but that's so long.. |
| 21:53.43 | jelly-home | some people like their OSes and apps tested before a dist-upgrade |
| 21:54.06 | jelly-home | Iszak: you, Sir, have betrayed yourself to be a developer |
| 21:54.16 | chupacabra | Iszak, you are barking up the wrong tree. |
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| 21:54.21 | jelly-home | perhaps even a web developer |
| 21:55.09 | Iszak | eh I guess so, I mean it's not so bad that I know that debian PHP releases include most fixes that don't break BC. |
| 21:56.04 | jelly-home | <devs> oh but we absolutely _must_ have Perl 5.10 *whine* *whine* <admins> sure... here's an /opt/perl, go wild but don't expect _us_ to maintain it |
| 21:56.15 | _stefanos_ | goodnight everyone |
| 21:57.48 | jelly-home | Iszak: mind, there are some more annoying things about Debian's PHP, but lagging in security fixes usually isn't one |
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| 21:57.54 | bint | hi there |
| 21:58.08 | Iszak | jelly-home, clearly not, maybe I'll try Fedora. |
| 21:58.14 | chupacabra | Iszak, mebby you would be better off in #fedora or something. #gentoo? |
| 21:58.17 | Iszak | thanks anyway, atleast it cleared some things up. |
| 21:58.19 | bint | i want to add a users homedir in a jailed enviroment - does this work? |
| 21:58.20 | Iszak | chupacabra, +1! |
| 21:58.35 | bint | only root has access to this jailed folder and subfolders but i want to create a users home in this folder |
| 21:58.54 | bint | i did it and now this comes up when changing: .bash_profile: Permission denied |
| 21:59.23 | jelly-home | bint: forgot to chown/chmod stuff so that user could actually use it? |
| 22:00.03 | bint | if i go to users home with root and then type su "user" there comes: .bashrc: Permission denied |
| 22:00.27 | bint | this user is owner of his homedir, but not owner of the jailed dir |
| 22:00.54 | bint | so its like /jail/folder/usershome |
| 22:01.20 | jelly-home | bint: does the user have at least executable permissions on all the parent directories up to the root of the jail? |
| 22:01.42 | bint | no - he needs right |
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| 22:01.51 | SDE | mmm |
| 22:01.52 | SDE | guys |
| 22:01.56 | SDE | any idea why im getting this error |
| 22:01.57 | SDE | N1-SVD:~# /home/sde/scripts/rkhunter.sh |
| 22:01.57 | SDE | bash: /home/sde/scripts/rkhunter.sh: Permission denied |
| 22:02.02 | SDE | im logged in as root... |
| 22:02.19 | bint | chmod chroot it :) |
| 22:02.19 | jelly-home | bint: eg. drwx--x--x on /jail ... /jail/folder |
| 22:02.21 | SDE | dont understand why i cant run that script... doesnt make any sense. I have logged in under the user SDE and have used "su" to login as root |
| 22:02.25 | SDE | ahh crap |
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| 22:02.27 | SDE | forgot to do that |
| 22:02.28 | SDE | thanks |
| 22:02.41 | SDE | is it chmod +x or chmod +700 or 750? |
| 22:02.52 | SDE | as alot of documents have different opinions |
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| 22:03.04 | jelly-home | SDE: any of those will do, +x is good enough |
| 22:03.11 | SDE | thanks |
| 22:03.52 | jelly-home | rkhunter generates a fair number of false positives. Don't panic. |
| 22:04.09 | SDE | yeh i know that. just want the report so can keep an eye on the server |
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| 22:05.05 | SDE | then need to tackle bloody nagios next. managed to get it installed perfectly |
| 22:05.15 | SDE | but configuring it, is much harder and time consuming |
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| 22:09.34 | jelly-home | that's normal |
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| 22:11.24 | chupacabra | nagios is a PITA |
| 22:11.53 | jelly-home | it does its job well |
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| 22:12.37 | SDE | PITA? |
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| 22:12.55 | foetus | with tsatsiki :) |
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| 22:12.59 | chupacabra | pain in the aXX |
| 22:14.13 | foetus | must go to sleep |
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| 22:16.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | a pain in your ax? |
| 22:16.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | ouch |
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| 22:16.41 | SDE | guyes |
| 22:16.45 | SDE | those this seem ok? |
| 22:16.45 | SDE | # m h dom mon dow command |
| 22:16.46 | SDE | 10 0 * * * /home/sde/scripts/rkhunter.sh |
| 22:16.54 | SDE | i want the jobe to run 10 minutes past midnight |
| 22:16.56 | SDE | everynight |
| 22:17.17 | SDE | should there be one more space after the last "*" ? How can i test te crontab before the job starts? |
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| 22:17.45 | edju | I take it's not a good idea to install amarok 1.4 from lenny when I'm running squeeze. Right? |
| 22:19.10 | Mr-R | edju: does not sound good. but amarok and stability go different ways, i think |
| 22:19.16 | bint | hmm and if i dont want that a user is able to login via root ? i did that for root in etc/ssh/sshd_config but there are no other users listed |
| 22:21.25 | edju | Any way to install Clementine? |
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| 22:33.42 | PolluxEmperor | hi all |
| 22:34.12 | PolluxEmperor | is anyone having trouble with x-fi cards under linux? when i try to play sound through it with any player it blocks |
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| 22:39.10 | bint | PolluxEmperor did you install any drivers :)? |
| 22:40.29 | qq- | !xfi |
| 22:40.29 | dpkg | [x-fi] Sound Blaster X-Fi is a sound card series from Creative Technology. GPL-licensed vendor driver for EMU20K1/EMU20K2 chipsets (PCI-IDs 1102:0005, 1102:000b) merged in <ALSA> as snd-ctxfi, released in ALSA 1.0.21 (merged in Linux 2.6.32). "Xtreme Audio" devices (CA0106/CA0110 chipsets) are supported by the snd-ca0106 (1102:0007) and snd-hda-intel (1102:0009) drivers in ALSA versions > 1.0.16. http://wiki.debian.org/X-Fi |
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| 22:47.07 | orfix | Hi, from time to time (each 1 or 2 days) the X crashes, and i have to switch to TTY1 and do a reboot, here is my Xorg.0.log pastebin.com/mGsHGzjc do you have any idea of how to fix this ? thanks ! |
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| 22:49.22 | kombucha | I'm getting "DB Error: connect failed" on Lenny 5.0.5 when I try to connect from phpwiki to postgres. I have php5-pgsql installed and can connect to postgres from CLI |
| 22:49.37 | kombucha | looking for some leads on where to track down the source of the DB connect error |
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| 22:51.42 | PolluxEmperor | qq-: i have the snd_ca0110 module loaded |
| 22:51.47 | PolluxEmperor | sorry |
| 22:51.57 | PolluxEmperor | snd_ca0106 |
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| 22:57.16 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: and you can log in using the user and password that you're using? have you checked the logs? |
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| 22:57.41 | kombucha | yes I can log in to the database server from the webserver command line |
| 22:57.58 | kombucha | when I run phpwiki it is failing on the client side with DB Error connect failed |
| 22:58.42 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: have you checked /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-*.log? |
| 22:59.23 | kombucha | no entries from today at all |
| 22:59.28 | chupacabra | gotta fix the hba pba, something file to allow network login |
| 22:59.55 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: and how exactly are you connecting using php wiki? Are you connecting to the socket? or to a port? or what? |
| 23:00.07 | chupacabra | 'there ya go |
| 23:00.38 | kombucha | dondelelcaro: to a port it seems, just reading the phpwiki code |
| 23:00.40 | dondelelcaro | chupacabra: by default it's enabled for localhost, so assuming you're doing things properly, you don't need to modify the client auth configuration |
| 23:00.51 | kombucha | I am putting together my own php script to test the connect that way |
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| 23:01.12 | chupacabra | i know. but i relax everything so it works then tighten it up. |
| 23:01.17 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: and what is the precise psql command you're using to test the connection? |
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| 23:02.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | orfix, looks like this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/204035 |
| 23:02.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 23:02.48 | judd | xserver-xorg-video-intel -- etch: 2:2.2.1-1~etchnhalf2; lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny8; squeeze: 2:2.9.1-4; sid: 2:2.12.0+legacy1-1 |
| 23:03.54 | kombucha | $dbcon = pg_connect("host=192.168.1.30 port=5432 dbname=phpwiki user=me password=secret"); if (!$dbcon) { die("sorry charlie"); } |
| 23:04.17 | kombucha | same thing that works from CLI just to make sure php is able to properly connect |
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| 23:05.52 | chupacabra | does debian use a php-pgsql connector? |
| 23:06.14 | orfix | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks, it's exactly that bug i guess. |
| 23:06.26 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: what are you running from the CLI, exactly? Does psql -h 192.168.1.30:5432 -U me; work? |
| 23:06.42 | kombucha | yes dondelelcaro exactly |
| 23:06.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | orfix, look in the debian bugs at http://bugs.debian.org/xserver-xorg-video-intel if you find t there, too |
| 23:07.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | unfortunately, there are a lot of bugs there |
| 23:07.11 | kombucha | that's why i know i have machine to machine connection to the db server |
| 23:07.22 | orfix | CutMeOwnThroat: ok i will check ! |
| 23:07.26 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: the DB server isn't local? |
| 23:07.56 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: and if that's what you're running exactly, it shouldn't work; you need phpwiki at the end, anyway. |
| 23:08.04 | kombucha | no it's not local, although I suppose I could cheese out and just import the database to the localhost O_o |
| 23:08.23 | dondelelcaro | (and it won't work anyway, because it needs to be -p 5432, not :) |
| 23:08.25 | kombucha | yes, -d phpwiki |
| 23:08.36 | chupacabra | thought he heard it was localhost. |
| 23:08.47 | kombucha | right I did not use :5436 notation, I used -p 5436 |
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| 23:09.19 | IRConan | can anyone tell me how to extract the debian kernel source including a certain patchset? |
| 23:09.30 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: anyway, if it works from the command line, and it works using php, most likely your phpwiki configuration is wrong somewhere |
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| 23:09.45 | IRConan | specifically I'd like to extract the source and the xen patches |
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| 23:10.00 | kombucha | right except it looks like I am getting undefined function for pg_connect() even though I have php5-pgsql installed |
| 23:10.37 | abrotman | has apache been restarted? is the php module enabled? |
| 23:10.41 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: and you've restarted apache since then? |
| 23:10.44 | kombucha | I wonder if my extension is commented out in php ini |
| 23:10.51 | dondelelcaro | kombucha: what does php_version(); return? |
| 23:10.54 | kombucha | abrotman: yes exactly what I was thinking |
| 23:11.10 | kombucha | PHP 5.2.6-1+lenny9 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Aug 4 2010 03:25:57) |
| 23:11.20 | dondelelcaro | err, php_info(); rather |
| 23:11.27 | dondelelcaro | hasn't done PHP garbage in ages |
| 23:12.50 | bint | i want bint to be in the group bint aswell as in the group sshrs - i created a new group "addgroup sshrs" and then i did "usermod -G sshrs bint" |
| 23:13.03 | bint | when i type "groups" now it just shows me bint |
| 23:13.12 | bint | how can i be in the group sshrs aswell? |
| 23:13.31 | jhutchins_lt | bint: log out & log back in |
| 23:13.51 | bint | ah thats it thanks |
| 23:15.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | orfix, bug nr 508614 results in the same error in the log, but says it happens on changing screen resolution |
| 23:15.58 | orfix | CutMeOwnThroat: nop, i never changed the screen resolution |
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| 23:17.25 | orfix | CutMeOwnThroat: just changed the screen resolution but nothing happened |
| 23:18.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | orfix, I just said this produces the same error message... |
| 23:18.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | the "lockup" bit, that is |
| 23:19.06 | dserban | sooo, I'm a touch confused. I've always just installed cups on a client machine to have printer access. I'm not trying to be leaner/meaner, and was wondering what package I install to have printing access to a remote print server? I don't want to serve any printers from here on the client. |
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| 23:19.46 | bimbo | hello, I'm trying to setup a socks5 proxy using openssh on debian lenny, however it isn't working |
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| 23:20.14 | bimbo | the tunnel is created, but whenever I try to use the proxy it will try to resolve the query but it'll fail |
| 23:20.24 | dondelelcaro | dserban: usually you'd use cups |
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| 23:20.50 | dondelelcaro | dserban: and you just point it at the remote print server |
| 23:21.35 | bimbo | with an error like: debug2: channel 5: read<=0 rfd 11 len 0 |
| 23:21.50 | bimbo | (that is, using the -v option in the ssh client) |
| 23:21.51 | kombucha | abrotman: yanno I have 'extension=pgsql.so ;' in my php.ini and I've restarted apache, but postgres doesn't seem to be showing up in phpinfo |
| 23:22.26 | dserban | dondelelcaro: ahh, so cups-client isn't what I'm looking for then? |
| 23:22.28 | kombucha | not sure what else could be missing. also interesting that phppgadmin runs on the machine without the extension=pgsql.so ;! |
| 23:22.37 | kombucha | I didn't know if could do that |
| 23:23.18 | kombucha | phpinfo confirms the ini file I loaded the extension in, is the one being parsed |
| 23:23.36 | themill | kombucha: installing the php5-pgsql package should be all that is required for php to have the pg extension loaded. |
| 23:23.39 | bimbo | the problem here lies within debian itself, since I've got the same configuration runnin on a gentoo system |
| 23:24.03 | kombucha | themill: indeed, however I am getting undefined function: pg_connect() |
| 23:24.44 | dserban | yucky dependencies... cups pulls in fancontrol .. lm-sensors .. hpijs... etc |
| 23:24.54 | chupacabra | set auth to trust and try it. |
| 23:25.15 | themill | kombucha: how are you testing for that command and how are you testing phpinfo()? |
| 23:25.34 | kombucha | well I am just running phpinfo() in a php file |
| 23:25.58 | themill | kombucha: by loading it through your web browser? |
| 23:26.10 | kombucha | I can see by reading the output of phpinfo that the postgres extensions are not loaded --- yes in a browser |
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| 23:26.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | orfix, yours is also the 945gm chipset, right? |
| 23:28.54 | bint | damn i dont get it.. i did a group sshrs, edited sshd_config and added "AllowGroups sshrs" |
| 23:28.55 | orfix | CutMeOwnThroat: an lspci gives me this 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 23:29.02 | orfix | so i think yes :] |
| 23:29.12 | bint | saved it - but still can login with any other user not in the group sshrs |
| 23:29.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems that was reported several times |
| 23:29.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | I would think it was fixed in xorg in a later version by now |
| 23:29.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | but it doesn't look like anyone backported the fix for lenny |
| 23:31.31 | themill | kombucha: you should see /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d/pgsql.ini listed under "additional .ini files parsed" |
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| 23:32.05 | bimbo | anyone? |
| 23:32.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | orfix, would be good to find the bug filed with the xorg people and see what it was and what they did about it... obviously several modules etc. play together and apart from that xserver-xorg-intel is involved it doesn't seem totally clear what the problem is |
| 23:32.16 | dondelelcaro | dserban: you can do it with cups-client I think, but normally you'd just use cups |
| 23:33.19 | orfix | CutMeOwnThroat: oh i've never reported a bug, time to read about it |
| 23:33.22 | kombucha | themill: yep there it is |
| 23:34.13 | dondelelcaro | orfix: just install and run reportbug |
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| 23:34.35 | fas3r | i got a problem with fail2ban it doesn't execute the second line of actionban, this is the pastebin if somebody can help me : http://pastebin.com/trJ5XuuD . if i execute the seconde line in a shell it's work and its not a right problem .. nothing in syslog too |
| 23:34.37 | themill | kombucha: that's all that's required to load the extension. You shouldn't need to edit php.ini yourself. You did "invoke-rc.d apache2 reload", didn't you? |
| 23:34.44 | kombucha | aha I am not getting undefined function now, I am getting no route to host |
| 23:34.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | orfix, it's been reported lots... and I think it was solved in xorg itself, but only in future versions |
| 23:34.55 | kombucha | of course I know there is a route bc I can connect over cli |
| 23:35.23 | bint | anyone :)? |
| 23:35.26 | orfix | dondelelcaro: thanks! |
| 23:35.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | orfix, and I don't see a solution in the bugs reported for debian... |
| 23:35.51 | kombucha | oh my bad, misread that.... still undefined function pg_connect() |
| 23:35.56 | kombucha | darn |
| 23:35.57 | orfix | CutMeOwnThroat: so the solution would be to upgrade my lenny |
| 23:36.10 | dondelelcaro | fas3r: it probably doesn't support multiple lines; just put it all on the same line |
| 23:36.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro, this seems to have been reported multiple times - not sure as often as the guy who posted a lot of bugs in the end said... |
| 23:36.22 | PolluxEmperor | bint: i have them loaded.. aren't the kernel ones sufficient? |
| 23:36.37 | fas3r | dondelelcaro: i tried too |
| 23:36.49 | bint | PolluxEmperor ? |
| 23:37.11 | bint | are you talkin bout my issue or something else? |
| 23:37.16 | fas3r | dondelelcaro: and if you check the actionstart or actionstop for example its on multiple line |
| 23:37.16 | dondelelcaro | fas3r: hrm; nevermind |
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| 23:39.54 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | Is there an ogv to avi converter for Debian? I use gtk-recordmydesktop to record my screen for different videos, and it saves the files as .ogv.. |
| 23:40.35 | dondelelcaro | fas3r: well, you should certainly be able to do something like actionban = sh -c 'iptables -I fail2ban-<name> 1 -s <ip> -j DROP; fail2sql <name> <protocol> <port> <ip>' |
| 23:41.12 | kombucha | dondelelcaro: themill abrotman thanks all for the help. I was trying to do this on 2 different machines, and I just successfully finished it on one of them |
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| 23:41.29 | kombucha | so thanks for the suggestions and encouragement, I really appreciate it |
| 23:41.37 | fas3r | dondelelcaro: but if you look the actionstart for example its like : actionstart = iptables -N fail2ban-<name> |
| 23:41.45 | fas3r | the iptables line work |
| 23:42.01 | fas3r | its on the second one .. and both are execute by root |
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| 23:42.43 | dondelelcaro | fas3r: I know that configuration option supports multiple lines, but there's no example of an actionban having mulitple lines |
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| 23:43.29 | dondelelcaro | fas3r: and are you sure it's not actually working? have you tried reversing the order? |
| 23:43.31 | fas3r | dondelelcaro: well fail2sql is a pluginand it look like work and in the README they give this simple example |
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| 23:43.53 | fas3r | dondelelcaro: yes i try to execute only the fail2sqland it's work |
| 23:43.58 | fas3r | tried* |
| 23:44.15 | dondelelcaro | fas3r: using actionban, right? |
| 23:44.20 | fas3r | yep |
| 23:44.33 | dondelelcaro | fas3r: then try the sh method; it'll execute them both |
| 23:44.42 | fas3r | oki |
| 23:44.45 | fas3r | i try |
| 23:45.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions xserver-xorg-intel |
| 23:45.51 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'xserver-xorg-intel' was found. |
| 23:46.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 23:46.14 | judd | xserver-xorg-video-intel -- etch: 2:2.2.1-1~etchnhalf2; lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny8; squeeze: 2:2.9.1-4; sid: 2:2.12.0+legacy1-1 |
| 23:48.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions mesa |
| 23:48.14 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'mesa' was found. |
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| 23:49.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions mesa-utils |
| 23:49.17 | judd | mesa-utils -- etch: 6.3.2-2.1; lenny: 7.0.3-7; sid: 7.7.1-4; squeeze: 7.7.1-4; experimental: 7.8.2-2 |
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| 23:49.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 23:49.47 | judd | libgl1-mesa-dri -- etch: 6.5.1-0.6; lenny: 7.0.3-7; sid: 7.7.1-4; squeeze: 7.7.1-4; experimental: 7.8.2-2 |
| 23:51.32 | monkey_d_luffy | I have a freshly installed squeeze on my laptop with KDE. What is the best way to get WIFI working? I installed the KDE plasma-widget-networkmanagement thingy... but it doesn't seem to work very well :( It doesn't list any interfaces, not even eth0 |
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| 23:51.55 | bint | anyone able to help me with my sshd_config issue? |
| 23:52.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | !interfaces |
| 23:52.08 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
| 23:52.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | or possibly |
| 23:52.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | network-manager |
| 23:52.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops |
| 23:52.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | !network-manager |
| 23:52.33 | dpkg | NetworkManager is a network management framework daemon. Squeeze/testing users: ask me about <nm squeeze>. See /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian for setup instructions. Backported 0.7.3 packages available, ask me about <bdo>. http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ #nm on irc.freenode.net. See also <wireless connection managers>. |
| 23:53.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | monkey_d_luffy, ^^^^ hm, you probably also want to /msg dpkg nm squeeze |
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| 23:54.43 | PolluxEmperor | bint: talking about the x-fi driver |
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| 23:59.00 | monkey_d_luffy | CutMeOwnThroat: ok, so nm is the way to go... and forget about the KDE widget for it :( |
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| 23:59.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | monkey_d_luffy, no idea, I wouldn't touch KDE with a 12 feet shell command |
