| 00:00.29 | nsadmin | and knowing the compiler parts and also knowing C and C++ would be helpful |
| 00:00.30 | ewae | a compile with --release option make it a little faster |
| 00:00.38 | ewae | sure!! |
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| 00:01.44 | nsadmin | if you want to do that... I'd keep backups of your entire storage before you start... but then, go ahead |
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| 00:02.55 | ewae | what are the dangers for other datas? |
| 00:03.41 | nsadmin | you mean like the possibility of overwriting other files that have been placed there by packages? |
| 00:04.36 | ejb | I acually have 4.6.3 |
| 00:04.41 | ejb | (libs) |
| 00:04.46 | nsadmin | other than that I dunno, and I don't want to know... all I know at this point is you're now aware enough so you might keep backups if you think you have to |
| 00:05.36 | ejb | http://pastebin.com/TUKi793G |
| 00:06.50 | ejb | qtcreator sees those libs via qmake but it says "The Qt Version identified by qmake-qt4 is not installed. Run make install" |
| 00:07.00 | ejb | So the libs aren't enough? |
| 00:07.14 | ewae | it makes one directory by version. It don't touch old qt version, I do it for many years and it never corrupt my kde |
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| 00:10.12 | ewae | you need binaries like qmake in your path. without you can't make mocfiles for your projects |
| 00:10.41 | ElDeablo | Boa noite! |
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| 00:13.47 | tvc | anyone know where the checksums are for the CDs, i want to make sure its alright before burning |
| 00:14.55 | xyan | tvc: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.6/ |
| 00:15.04 | tvc | thanks |
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| 00:15.21 | xyan | in the iso-cd directories |
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| 00:15.42 | krabador | hi people, i would recycle an old hardware to do an home server (athlonxp 3000+ 1gb ram geforce4mx) can i set debian in someway for less power possible? |
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| 00:18.58 | karamorf | my debian install failed to boot today. instead it gave me a prompt label as initramfs and complained about not being able to mount root from /dev/hde1. /dev/hde1 doesn't exist, but /dev/hda1 does. How do I tell it to try hda1 instead of hde1? |
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| 00:19.59 | xyan | karamorf: fix your /etc/fstab, use LABEL or UUID instead of device names |
| 00:20.15 | sprink | Can anyone specify which ports aptitude uses? I've allowed 22 and 80, and my firewall still blocks (blocks all by default) |
| 00:20.23 | sprink | 21* |
| 00:20.58 | karamorf | xyan: need to do a live boot to do that I assume? and I haven't messed with fstab yet, does lenny by default use device names? |
| 00:21.34 | xyan | karamorf: cant tell you i dont run lenny |
| 00:21.39 | xyan | karamorf: and yes get a live cd or something ;) |
| 00:21.48 | karamorf | xyan: fair enough, thanks :) |
| 00:23.24 | xyan | sprink: why should aptitude use port 21 or 80 it connects to a remote server on port 80, what exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 00:25.03 | karamorf | xyan: i would guess its using the same web api that packages.debian.org uses to get its information ... |
| 00:25.04 | sprink | "Why would apptitude use port 21 or 80 it connects to a remote server on port 80" |
| 00:25.16 | sprink | wtf |
| 00:25.33 | KB1JWQ | "use" and "bind to" are two different things. |
| 00:25.40 | xyan | sprink: the connection on your end uses some random port > 1024 and the remote end is on port 80 aka listens |
| 00:26.02 | sprink | I know |
| 00:26.12 | sprink | I'm trying to configure aptitude to work behind a firewall |
| 00:26.51 | sprink | KB1JWQ: nobody said anything about binding |
| 00:27.19 | KB1JWQ | "Why should aptitude use port 21 or 80" implied a lack of understanding of the distinction. :-) |
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| 00:28.14 | krabador | hi people, i would recycle an old hardware to do an home server (athlonxp 3000+ 1gb ram geforce4mx) can i set debian in someway for less power possible? |
| 00:28.57 | sprink | KB1JWQ: oh, I thought mentioning my firewall was blocking it, would make it clear as to my intentions |
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| 00:29.40 | sprink | aptitude is a front end to apt correct? apt makes outbound connections on port 80? yes? |
| 00:30.00 | xyan | sprink: to port 80 |
| 00:30.13 | sprink | okay. TO port 80. |
| 00:30.16 | xyan | sprink: from port <you_cant_predict_which_one_:)> |
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| 00:30.26 | xyan | read about iptables state machine |
| 00:30.29 | sprink | I don't need to know the local port. my firewall does not block any local ports. |
| 00:30.43 | xyan | especially ESTABLISHED if you think blocking all in- and outbound traffic |
| 00:31.05 | sprink | I have ESTABLISHED and RELATED implemented with the state module. |
| 00:31.38 | xyan | so it should be working shouldnt it? |
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| 00:32.14 | sprink | I would think. That's why I came here asking which ports the package manager needs to allow outbound on. |
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| 00:33.05 | ewae | is it the right command ? iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT |
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| 00:34.27 | dvs | *burp* |
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| 00:36.40 | karamorf1 | xyan: I was able to get debian to boot by unplugging my raid array. I have now changed root to use the UUID instead of the device name. however, blkid does not give me a UUID for the swap partition. Can I get it to assign one or something? |
| 00:39.45 | andares | hey, aptitude failed maybe three minutes into me trying to upgrade to squeeze. |
| 00:39.55 | andares | is my system completely destroyed now or can I revert it somehow? |
| 00:40.22 | xyan | karamorf1: just mkswap a new own you can explicitly force the uuid using -U (but it should generate one itself) |
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| 00:41.13 | xyan | sprink: just to make sure i understand you: you allow connections with a destination port 21/80 and block everything else and allow incomming connections with a related or established state and block everything else? |
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| 00:43.56 | km | what tool can i use to verify if http post data is send to server? |
| 00:45.15 | sprink | xyan: I have resolved my issue. Incase you are still curious my firewall is a little more complicated than that. This firewall is for FORWARDing only to restrict network access to VPSs. Default Policy for FORWARD is DROP ALL in and out. |
| 00:45.18 | krabador | hi people, i would recycle an old hardware to do an home server (athlonxp 3000+ 1gb ram geforce4mx) can i set debian in someway for less power possible? |
| 00:46.00 | abrotman | powertop might help |
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| 00:46.07 | abrotman | there are various power daemon tools |
| 00:46.09 | sprink | xyan: my issue was I had specified dns to allow outbound and RELATED, but I had only allowed so for tcp, forgot udp for the DNS |
| 00:47.11 | andares | hey, aptitude failed maybe three minutes into me trying to upgrade to squeeze. |
| 00:47.14 | andares | is my system completely destroyed now or can I revert it somehow? |
| 00:47.41 | xyan | sprink: digging through /etc/services usually helps to avoid things like that ;) |
| 00:47.44 | sprink | andares: It's possible to recover depending on your situtation |
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| 00:48.08 | andares | sprink: how would I go about it? |
| 00:48.21 | sprink | andares: well for starters, what failed? |
| 00:48.39 | andares | sprink: ran out of memory. |
| 00:49.01 | abrotman | andares: what was the actual error ? |
| 00:49.02 | andares | well, by memory, I mean disk space. |
| 00:49.13 | andares | No space left on device. (x100) |
| 00:49.26 | abrotman | andares: clean up a little space |
| 00:49.47 | andares | abrotman: oh, I mean, after that. |
| 00:49.48 | iframe | have installed pidgin, but don't see ho to configure MSN , pls help... |
| 00:50.00 | sprink | xyan: I knew it was on both tcp and udp, I just didn't notice I had left it out. My ruleset is rather large ;) |
| 00:50.02 | abrotman | andares: dpkg --configure -a |
| 00:50.05 | andares | abrotman: also it's not really a space problem, debian made my root partition 6gb for some reason. |
| 00:50.16 | andares | I need to resize the partition I guess. |
| 00:50.39 | abrotman | no, you did |
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| 00:50.47 | andares | I mean, it was the default. |
| 00:50.48 | abrotman | debian doesn't mystically create partitions |
| 00:51.05 | andares | abrotman: I mean, that's the partition scheme it chose when I told the installer to partition the disk. |
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| 00:51.25 | abrotman | 6GB should be fine .. look for .gz logs in /var/log/ .. they can take a lot of space |
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| 00:52.24 | karamorf | xyan: thanks a bunch, everything works as expected now. |
| 00:52.36 | andares | I mean, the packages I dowloaded to upgrade take up over a gig by themselves. |
| 00:52.47 | abrotman | you still need them |
| 00:53.17 | andares | abrotman: /var/log only takes up 3.7mb. |
| 00:53.30 | abrotman | all of it? |
| 00:53.36 | abrotman | du -sk ? |
| 00:53.41 | abrotman | du -sh /var/log/ |
| 00:54.06 | andares | abrotman: 3.7M /var/log. |
| 00:54.10 | andares | I just installed yesterday. |
| 00:54.35 | abrotman | andares: so why didn't you just install squeeze directly? |
| 00:54.41 | abrotman | andares: du -sh /* |
| 00:54.48 | andares | abrotman: I didn't know it existed. |
| 00:55.03 | andares | I'm not used to Linux distros having "releases." |
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| 00:55.18 | abrotman | which ones don't? |
| 00:55.31 | andares | abrotman: Gentoo and ArchLinux, my two previous. |
| 00:55.51 | abrotman | is pretty sure gentoo has current/new or something like that |
| 00:55.56 | andares | nope. |
| 00:56.02 | Raptors | Where do I report a "tar" bug? |
| 00:56.04 | abrotman | used to? |
| 00:56.07 | abrotman | !reportbug |
| 00:56.07 | dpkg | used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 00:56.26 | andares | abrotman: it distinguishes between stable and unstable packages, but it's constantly changing. |
| 00:56.36 | andares | also /home is 441M. |
| 00:56.41 | abrotman | uhm .. unstable is like that too |
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| 00:56.48 | abrotman | andares: don't you have a / and /home/ ? |
| 00:56.54 | andares | abrotman: yeah. |
| 00:57.03 | andares | on two different partitions. |
| 00:57.18 | andares | du hasn't completed yet. |
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| 00:57.46 | andares | oh, crap. du crossed partition boundaries. |
| 00:57.52 | abrotman | uhm .. so? |
| 00:58.10 | stew | andares: add -x to keep that from happening |
| 00:58.14 | andares | yeah. |
| 00:58.24 | andares | abrotman: so it started to read my 400gb backup partition. |
| 00:58.31 | andares | on my backup drive. |
| 00:58.40 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 00:59.04 | andares | 3.1G /usr and 2.7G /var. is that normal? |
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| 00:59.30 | xyan | andares: if you have sufficient space in /home move /var/cache/apt/archives/ there and mount --bind it back maybe? |
| 00:59.32 | abrotman | depends what you have installed |
| 00:59.41 | andares | xyan: an excellent idea. |
| 01:01.07 | andares | I'll have to run gparted later to increase the size of my root. |
| 01:01.15 | andares | but I want to have a functioning system when I do that. :p |
| 01:03.12 | abrotman | pshw .. |
| 01:03.14 | kingsley | Should I be concerned that the "free" command reports more and more swap is being used? If not, how does one discern between normal swap usage, and a memory leak? I'm using version 2.6.32-5-686 of the kernel. |
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| 01:03.59 | booi | it's almost never the kernel leaking memory but userspace programs. try top to see the offending process |
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| 01:05.41 | abrotman | !tell kingsley about am i swapping |
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| 01:06.45 | Raptors | anyone else on sid? |
| 01:07.01 | andares | abrotman: I'm getting a lot of locale errors. |
| 01:07.14 | abrotman | or warnings? |
| 01:07.21 | andares | manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct |
| 01:07.24 | abrotman | Raptors: ask your real questoin |
| 01:07.38 | andares | I'm just not sure if it will do something bad later on. |
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| 01:08.10 | andares | should that be happening? |
| 01:08.21 | Raptors | Well I'm on sid and tar wont extract any big files. I get tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now error. When I opened the file in ark it opened up perfectly. |
| 01:08.32 | abrotman | so check the BTS |
| 01:08.41 | Raptors | I was wondering if someone else on sid was experiencing that. |
| 01:08.41 | andares | BTS? |
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| 01:10.06 | abrotman | Raptors: this is where you look in the BTS, that's what it's there for |
| 01:10.08 | abrotman | !tell andares about bts |
| 01:10.29 | Raptors | tar (GNU tar) 1.23 |
| 01:10.31 | Raptors | BTS? |
| 01:10.39 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:10.44 | abrotman | !tell Raptors about bts |
| 01:10.44 | Raptors | !tell Raptors about bts |
| 01:10.50 | abrotman | !tell Raptors about selftell |
| 01:14.46 | kingsley | booi: I followed your advice and the "top" reports that no process is using an inordinate amount of memory. Yet, the amount of swap used is creeping up. |
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| 01:19.17 | booi | kingsley, are you sure? if you don't know about top you might be looking at it wrong |
| 01:19.53 | booi | sort by the VIRT column or %MEM |
| 01:20.13 | booi | press 'x' then 'z' then '>' |
| 01:20.50 | kingsley | booi: Yes, you're right of course. I did sort by %MEM. |
| 01:21.06 | qwd | I'm trying to set up openssh-server with ssh key authentication but I can't log in. Would someone please take a look and see if something is wrong? http://pastebin.com/X5LeHLUK |
| 01:22.59 | kingsley | booi: I also ran "ps -aux awk '{print $4}' | sort -g | less", which reported more of the same. |
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| 01:23.19 | KamusHadenes | hey there. has anyone ever used zoneminder? I tried #zoneminder, but they seen to be on break time |
| 01:23.40 | kingsley | booi: Maybe it's normal for the kernel to use swap if it's available. |
| 01:24.26 | booi | no |
| 01:27.29 | abrotman | but it will still show it in use if there is free RAM if it was used a bit ago .. which is why you use something like 'vmstat 3' to watch and see if the si/so columns change |
| 01:27.49 | kingsley | booi: My concern is that I'll run out of memory, which seemed to be happening with version 2.6.32-18 of the kernel. However, my understanding is that -18 has a bug that hangs the box, making it look like it's running low on memory. Naturally, I upgraded. |
| 01:28.11 | stew | and yes, it is normal for a machine to use swap when it isn't strictly necessary |
| 01:28.23 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 01:28.25 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.35-trunk-686 (2.6.35-1~experimental.3); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-23); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-23); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-23~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-25lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 01:28.36 | abrotman | kingsley: there isn't a -18 in debian .. why do you hvae one ? |
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| 01:29.48 | kingsley | abrotman: Version 2.6.32-18 used to be debian, but has been replaced by 2.6.32-23. |
| 01:29.59 | abrotman | so why aren't you using tha tone ? |
| 01:30.12 | abrotman | that one |
| 01:30.13 | stew | don't use that tone with me |
| 01:30.27 | kingsley | stew: nice |
| 01:30.41 | abrotman | thinks stew might be using his parenting skills |
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| 01:30.49 | stew | kingsley: what does "free -m | sed -n 2p" return? |
| 01:31.30 | kingsley | stew: Mem: 2025 1914 111 0 180 754 |
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| 01:32.20 | stew | kingsley: so that is showing almost half of your memory still basically free, since the stuff in the last column can be reclaimed at any time if needed |
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| 01:34.09 | stew | !swappiness |
| 01:34.09 | dpkg | A number of Linux kernel developers debated "swappiness" - exploring when an application should or should not be swapped out, versus reclaiming memory from the cache. http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000 http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202 http://kerneltrap.org/node/3660 |
| 01:34.17 | stew | also see <free memory> |
| 01:37.06 | kingsley | stew: Thanks for your insightful comments. Maybe I'll just wait and see what happens! |
| 01:37.34 | tholl583xx | hi, anyone know where I can get this libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 for 5.0.6 |
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| 01:39.35 | abrotman | tholl583xx: did you try using apt-file ? |
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| 01:41.46 | qwd | In case anyone was wondering, my problem with logging in to my openssh-server was due to the user being locked. Giving that user a password solved the problem. Though now I have a new problem as I still can't log in http://pastebin.com/mrU9y29h |
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| 01:50.58 | qwd | Problem solved by running "ssh-add". https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/201786 |
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| 01:58.46 | grandpapadot | Hey guys, trying to set umask with "umask u=rwx,g=rwx,o=", but it won't set execute "x" permissions, any ideas? I've worn google out on this. |
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| 01:59.53 | Dewi | grandpapadot: umask clears bits, not sets them |
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| 02:00.17 | Dewi | grandpapadot: why do you want everything to be executable? |
| 02:00.36 | grandpapadot | Dewi: Special requirement for some integration ... do you know how to get it to work? |
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| 02:00.48 | FazLeeeN | Hello, for some reasons I need to install some old packages, like linux header 2.6.20 and stuff. apt-get says 404 not found. is there a place where I can find them? I am using Ubuntu 7.04 |
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| 02:01.02 | dvs | uh oh |
| 02:01.12 | Dewi | grandpapadot: if you want the resulting file to be a+rwx the umask should be 0000 |
| 02:01.15 | Dewi | I think? |
| 02:01.32 | Nappz | Hey I had apache2 installed earlier, then removed it and deleted the init.d start script. Now I reinstalled it and there is no statup script in init.d |
| 02:01.41 | peterrooney | !based on debian |
| 02:01.41 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 02:01.50 | grandpapadot | Yea, it is, but Debian won't set the executable bit ... wonder if it's a security thing somewhere? hrm ... |
| 02:02.26 | abrotman | FazLeeeN: ask #ubuntu |
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| 02:03.03 | simonrvn | Nappz: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 02:03.10 | Nappz | kty |
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| 02:03.25 | Dewi | grandpapadot: I'm not sure if setting the executable bit on files is something that happens by default |
| 02:03.47 | simonrvn | it doesn't |
| 02:04.08 | ethana2 | if i'm trying to share a wireless connection via an ethernet port, do I need to use a crossover cable? |
| 02:04.09 | FazLeeeN | abrotman, already did. someone there believes he read something the other day about deocmmin'g mirrors, etc here so I thought I could ask maybe someone knows some mirrors with old packages |
| 02:04.20 | grandpapadot | Dewi: Nope... hrm |
| 02:04.21 | abrotman | FazLeeeN: ask #ubuntu |
| 02:04.30 | FazLeeeN | thanks |
| 02:04.32 | Dewi | grandpapadot: any +x you allow with umask happens on dirs, not files |
| 02:04.34 | ethana2 | abrotman: too many people there... |
| 02:04.35 | Nappz | @simonrvn : Didn't work. Used the apt-get method. |
| 02:04.35 | abrotman | FazLeeeN: this channel is not for Ubuntu support, we wouldn't know where to find their stuff |
| 02:04.41 | abrotman | ethana2: not our problem |
| 02:05.01 | simonrvn | Nappz: shouldn't matter |
| 02:05.22 | Nappz | simonrvn: It did something. No errors or anything. But the startup script still isnt there |
| 02:05.38 | ethana2 | FazLeeeN: try asking on the ubuntu StackExchange |
| 02:06.19 | FazLeeeN | Will do, thanks |
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| 02:10.01 | Nappz | Hmm anybody? (know how to get my apache2 init.d script back?) |
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| 02:14.38 | iframe | Nappz, how is it that it's gone?... |
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| 02:17.19 | abrotman | !tell Nappz about confmiss |
| 02:17.25 | abrotman | Nappz: the package is apache2.2-common |
| 02:17.37 | Nappz | Hmm ahk ill try that |
| 02:17.40 | Nappz | ty |
| 02:18.23 | iframe | Nappz, you can do: cp apache2~ apache2, in case you edited the scritp and accidentaly deleted it |
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| 02:39.49 | eTo_PL | is there any good live rescue cd based on debian distro with basic x windows, or basicly any live cd distro will do? |
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| 02:40.08 | dondelelcaro | eTo_PL: any live cd will do |
| 02:40.17 | dondelelcaro | eTo_PL: you can even use the installer in many cases |
| 02:42.15 | eTo_PL | k, thx |
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| 02:50.12 | iframe | can't connect to backports.debian.org |
| 02:50.29 | iframe | get an err msg |
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| 02:51.35 | iframe | added to my sources list: deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main |
| 02:52.01 | iframe | and then apt-get update |
| 02:52.35 | iframe | ather repos are available, but backports fail... |
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| 02:53.17 | iframe | *other* |
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| 02:55.07 | allan8904 | hey, when i install packages i keep getting wierd errors like "libc6-dev Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-18lenny4) but 2.7-18lenny4em1 is to be installed...what causes this? |
| 02:56.03 | qq- | sources ? you get same embedded ones |
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| 02:56.41 | allan8904 | qq-:so how do i fix that then? |
| 02:57.04 | qq- | remove embedded |
| 02:57.43 | allan8904 | qq- thanks |
| 02:57.51 | qq- | np |
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| 03:04.20 | txdv | hello folks, i need to install squashfs-modules but the packet manager cant find it |
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| 03:12.55 | drokmed | hi |
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| 03:14.42 | drokmed | hmm 690 people and nobody talkin? |
| 03:15.14 | abrotman | they were |
| 03:15.38 | drokmed | anything interesting? |
| 03:16.30 | abrotman | Debian ? :) |
| 03:16.44 | drokmed | hope so! |
| 03:16.58 | mroe | I can't get this mbp to boot and it is frustating me, but other than that, nothing interesting |
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| 03:18.12 | drokmed | no clue what mbp is, so i'm no help doh! |
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| 03:21.23 | mroe | macbook pro |
| 03:21.45 | drokmed | u must be rich, i can't afford a mac |
| 03:21.57 | mroe | it isn't mine |
| 03:22.46 | drokmed | stolen? :) |
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| 03:22.52 | mroe | ha |
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| 03:22.59 | sedulous | fell off a truck |
| 03:23.05 | mroe | I wouldn't steal it |
| 03:23.06 | drokmed | nice |
| 03:23.18 | mroe | it is a 17" monstrosity |
| 03:23.28 | mroe | I could never understand that form factor |
| 03:23.38 | KB1JWQ | mroe: I've used one periodically. |
| 03:24.09 | mroe | KB1JWQ, did you see the appeal? |
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| 03:25.42 | KB1JWQ | mroe: At times, yeah, |
| 03:25.58 | KB1JWQ | The only place I used it was "on a desk at work" and "on a desk at home." |
| 03:26.17 | drokmed | portable desktop |
| 03:26.34 | KB1JWQ | Yeah, and for that it was decent. |
| 03:27.01 | drokmed | i'm tempted to get a huge laptop, to play games at work (office door closed) and at home |
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| 03:29.19 | jpinx-eeepc | drokmed: I'd get the biggest screen laptop that I can find - everything else you can cope wth ;) |
| 03:30.41 | mroe | I'm happy with my 12" ibook thank you very much |
| 03:30.46 | drokmed | looking at this laptop from bestbuy, has 177 reviews, mostly favorable: |
| 03:30.48 | drokmed | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B+i7+Processor+/+17.3%22+Display+/+6GB+Memory+/+500GB+Hard+Drive+-+Black/9741729.p?id=1218165344675&skuId=9741729 |
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| 03:30.50 | unkmar | with lots of pixels. |
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| 03:31.39 | KB1JWQ | I had a netbook that I tried for a bit, but that screen was TOO small. |
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| 03:31.46 | unkmar | to me, largest isn't as important as lots of pixels. High-resolution. I'm currently very happy with my 1600x1200. |
| 03:32.27 | jpinx-eeepc | KB1JWQ: try a mobile - n900 ;) |
| 03:32.37 | unkmar | jpinx-eeepc: lol |
| 03:33.02 | KB1JWQ | jpinx-eeepc: That's greenfly's trick, not mine. :-) |
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| 03:33.20 | drokmed | 1600x900 will hopefully be good enough for games for the next few years |
| 03:34.13 | unkmar | drokmed: games? then just use the standard resolution crap. |
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| 03:34.51 | unkmar | might not look as pretty but it will run better with lower resolution. Who needs more that HD for games anyway? :P |
| 03:35.09 | drokmed | with an i7, i want hi rez for games |
| 03:35.38 | jpinx-eeepc | nudges folks towards #debian-offtopic |
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| 03:36.10 | drokmed | anyone here use dansguardian? (back on topic)... |
| 03:36.39 | drokmed | i'm updating my firewall how-to to squeeze, it's up to 60 pages, lots of goodies |
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| 03:40.27 | mroe | drokmed, I do |
| 03:40.46 | mroe | it is a great project |
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| 03:41.05 | drokmed | agreed, it's awesome, we've been using it for years, our firewalls use it |
| 03:41.51 | mroe | We just transitioned from inline filtering to using WCCP |
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| 03:42.39 | drokmed | inline filtering good enough here |
| 03:42.50 | drokmed | why the transition? |
| 03:43.09 | mroe | I didn't like adding an SPOF just for filtering |
| 03:43.22 | mroe | s/an/a |
| 03:43.31 | drokmed | yeah, i'm still working on the spof |
| 03:43.40 | drokmed | hot swap out standing by... |
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| 03:43.56 | mroe | our 'firewall' is handled by the router/nat |
| 03:44.03 | mroe | and wccp fails open |
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| 03:45.06 | drokmed | is there a linux equivalent to wccp yet? |
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| 03:45.56 | mroe | not really, you can approximate its function with some iptables magic |
| 03:47.34 | drokmed | i'm pretty sure shorewall has addressed it, we use shorewall to configure the router, i haven't got to the redundancy configs yet |
| 03:48.05 | jpinx | !wccp |
| 03:48.29 | drokmed | !wccp |
| 03:48.53 | mroe | web-content caching protocol |
| 03:48.58 | mroe | it is a cisco protocol |
| 03:48.59 | abrotman | !squid |
| 03:48.59 | dpkg | [squid] the Squid Internet Object Cache, a caching web proxy server supporting HTTP, HTTPS, FTP and other protocols. Lenny users: SMB authentication (smb_auth) is broken, see Debian bug #524957 to correct. See also <transparent proxy>, <squid deb caching>, <adzapper>. /usr/share/doc/squid/* http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq http://squid-cache.org/ #squid on irc.freenode.net. |
| 03:49.00 | abrotman | that ? |
| 03:49.26 | jpinx | if dpkg doesn't know it - neither do I ;) |
| 03:49.33 | mroe | squid supports being a wccp server |
| 03:49.49 | mroe | well a 'wccp web-cache' to use cisco's lingo |
| 03:51.10 | drokmed | we still use squid 2.x, the 3.x has new features, but it's still a "work in progress" |
| 03:51.44 | mroe | we use whatever is in lenny |
| 03:51.54 | abrotman | judd: versions squid3 |
| 03:51.57 | judd | Package squid3 on i386 -- etch: 3.0.PRE5-5+etch2; etch-security: 3.0.PRE5-5+etch2; lenny: 3.0.STABLE8-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 3.0.STABLE8-3+lenny4; lenny-backports: 3.1.3-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.1.6-1; sid: 3.1.6-1.1 |
| 03:51.57 | drokmed | both in lenny... squid defaults to 2.x |
| 03:52.04 | drokmed | you have to ask for 3.x |
| 03:52.11 | mroe | on really? |
| 03:52.14 | mroe | hrm... |
| 03:52.18 | mroe | then I'm not sure which we use |
| 03:52.29 | drokmed | same with squeeze, defaults to 2.x |
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| 03:53.05 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions squid |
| 03:53.06 | judd | Package squid on i386 -- etch: 2.6.5-6etch5; etch-security: 2.6.5-6etch5; etch-backports: 2.7.STABLE3-4.1~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.7.STABLE3-4.1; lenny-security: 2.7.STABLE3-4.1lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.7.STABLE7-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.7.STABLE9-2; sid: 2.7.STABLE9-2.1 |
| 03:53.07 | I-are- | hello. What is the best way to view or convert for viewing m4v files downloaded from Itunes store? |
| 03:53.11 | I-are- | in debian |
| 03:53.28 | mroe | I-are-, are they DRMed? |
| 03:53.51 | I-are- | mroe, I do not know, maybe. how do I check? |
| 03:54.00 | drokmed | ,versions squid3 |
| 03:54.00 | judd | Package squid3 on i386 -- etch: 3.0.PRE5-5+etch2; etch-security: 3.0.PRE5-5+etch2; lenny: 3.0.STABLE8-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 3.0.STABLE8-3+lenny4; lenny-backports: 3.1.3-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.1.6-1; sid: 3.1.6-1.1 |
| 03:54.15 | mroe | I-are-, not sure |
| 03:54.36 | jpinx-eeepc | I-are-: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 03:55.02 | I-are- | they are stanford opencourseware videos, but for some reason they chose itunes store |
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| 04:07.33 | I-are- | jpinx-eeepc, I have the dmm repo installed, but what packages do I need. I have vlc, but all I get is sound and not the video. |
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| 04:08.18 | jpinx-eeepc | I-are-: it'll be something about codecs - but I am no expert - maybe streuner__ can help if he's awake |
| 04:09.40 | mroe | I-are-, I'd be willing to bet you will have to jump through a lot of hoops to get something purchased from itunes to play in linux |
| 04:09.49 | mroe | but I would give mplayer a shot |
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| 04:12.08 | I-are- | mroe, mplayer downloaded codecs, and can still only play sound. The only solution I have found, and it might not work, is to play the videos in vlc on a windows machine, save the keys that are generated when played, copy the keys to the linux machine and it might play. But I do not know |
| 04:12.27 | mroe | welcome to the world of DRM |
| 04:12.46 | mroe | remember, it is *your* rights they are protecting |
| 04:13.44 | jpinx-eeepc | I-are-: giyf - there are wbsites that convert |
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| 04:14.51 | I-are- | jpinx-eeepc, I saw that, but I was a bit skeptical, and it is 8 gigs worth of video. |
| 04:15.28 | jpinx-eeepc | try a short one - see what it comes out like |
| 04:15.51 | iframe | how can i get my sound working? |
| 04:16.08 | mroe | turn on your speakers |
| 04:16.47 | iframe | mroe, very funy, they are on... |
| 04:16.55 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell iframe about alsa checklist |
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| 04:17.15 | mroe | iframe, perhaps your question should have been more specific then |
| 04:17.37 | iframe | i did a fresh install... |
| 04:17.46 | CrazyFoam | does reprepro work with "Architecture: all" ? |
| 04:17.51 | iframe | i'm new to debian, but not to linux... |
| 04:17.55 | jpinx-eeepc | iframe: use the checklist dpkg sent you |
| 04:17.58 | iframe | trying to find my way... |
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| 04:18.33 | I-are- | jpinx-eeepc, I do not have any small ones. they are all 600MB+ and sights like zamzar will cost me $50 to get an account to start the conversion for files that big. |
| 04:18.58 | jpinx-eeepc | I-are-: google some more....... |
| 04:19.05 | iframe | jpinx, what does it mean !tell ? (sorru for the silly question)... |
| 04:19.13 | mroe | your goal is to just play the files in debian? |
| 04:19.15 | I-are- | jpinx-eeepc, I am digging |
| 04:19.19 | I-are- | and digging. |
| 04:19.24 | iframe | jpinx-eeepc, what does it mean !tell ? (sorru for the silly question)... |
| 04:19.25 | jpinx-eeepc | !alsa checklist |
| 04:19.25 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
| 04:19.37 | jpinx-eeepc | iframe: âââââââ |
| 04:19.44 | iframe | ok... |
| 04:19.47 | iframe | thx |
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| 04:36.41 | iframe | jpinx-eeepc, ho do i *add myself* to the audio group?... |
| 04:37.18 | liable | with adduser |
| 04:38.09 | iframe | k thx... |
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| 04:45.07 | grawity | Which package is the 'w' command in? dpkg -S didn't help. |
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| 04:48.53 | sweetpi | grawity: procps |
| 04:49.54 | jpinx-eeepc | sweetpi: how did you find out - I was looking in man w, man who, etc |
| 04:50.06 | grawity | Thanks. Any idea why does dpkg fail to find the file? |
| 04:50.20 | sweetpi | jpinx-eeepc: I already knew |
| 04:50.22 | grawity | Or many other files, for that matter |
| 04:50.32 | jpinx-eeepc | sweetpi: smarty ;) |
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| 04:52.12 | sweetpi | grawity: w is an alternative symlink |
| 04:54.11 | grawity | How about /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf? |
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| 04:55.37 | sweetpi | grawity: I think youll only find files that are in the contents of the package, i imagine that file is generated |
| 04:55.57 | sweetpi | not 100% sure on that |
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| 05:23.03 | iframe | jpinx-eeepc, output from "aplay /usr/..." : ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave aplay: main:564: audio open error: No such file or directory |
| 05:24.08 | iframe | jpinx-eeepc, but when i click on Noise.wav the file does play... |
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| 05:25.40 | iframe | so what's next?... |
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| 05:34.42 | iframe | !tell flash-plugin |
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| 05:35.29 | iframe | !tell flashplayer |
| 05:35.43 | mroe | !flash-plugin |
| 05:35.51 | mroe | !flash |
| 05:35.52 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations, ask about <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
| 05:36.23 | iframe | thx |
| 05:36.52 | mroe | np |
| 05:37.09 | mroe | the syntax for !tell is '!tell <user> <factoid> |
| 05:37.13 | wildc4rd | apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 05:37.24 | wildc4rd | solves my problems generally |
| 05:37.36 | iframe | ok... |
| 05:37.41 | mroe | that is assuming you have the correct repo |
| 05:37.46 | wildc4rd | aye |
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| 05:38.11 | iframe | mroe, how do i configure the repo?... |
| 05:38.26 | mroe | !tell iframe apt |
| 05:38.35 | mroe | ha |
| 05:38.45 | mroe | dpkg just yelled at me |
| 05:38.45 | dpkg | mroe: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 05:39.00 | mroe | iframe, look at /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:39.56 | mroe | in order to the get the flash plugin, I believe you need to have 'non-free' in addition to 'main' |
| 05:40.10 | mroe | (while you're at it you might as well add 'contrib') |
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| 05:41.59 | iframe | mroe, yup it's installed... |
| 05:44.22 | iframe | mroe, i get E: Couldn't find package flash-plugin-nonfree |
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| 05:44.58 | mroe | did you add the repo to sources.list or was it already there? |
| 05:45.13 | iframe | mroe, it was already |
| 05:45.33 | iframe | deb ftp://ftp.mx.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free |
| 05:45.53 | mroe | try 'flashplugin-nonfree |
| 05:45.55 | mroe | ' |
| 05:46.00 | iframe | k |
| 05:46.12 | mroe | you can always use the search tool 'apt-cache search flash' |
| 05:46.24 | mroe | to find the correct name of the package |
| 05:47.37 | iframe | mroe, E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate |
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| 06:18.12 | D4rKr0W | hello #debian, i've got quite an issue here, i just updated the kernel 2.6.26-2-amd64 and dpkg, but dpkg is giving me an error, it says it's partially configured :( |
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| 06:20.08 | D4rKr0W | http://paste.debian.net/91182/ |
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| 06:23.17 | D4rKr0W | and i got the same on another machine with 2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 |
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| 06:23.35 | D4rKr0W | damn D: |
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| 06:38.16 | D4rKr0W | mhm, seems something got messed up with the permissions |
| 06:38.35 | D4rKr0W | chmod 755 /usr/bin/dpkg && chmod +x /usr/bin/dpkg |
| 06:38.42 | D4rKr0W | that seems to have fixed it |
| 06:38.56 | D4rKr0W | weird, i should prolly file a bug |
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| 06:45.11 | Shadur | What happened to gnome3-session in sid? It's gone entirely from the package list, not just temporarily held back due to lagging versions, /gone/. |
| 06:45.19 | batshwa | hi, everybody. i am experiencing problems bringing up a network interface with a static ip. i edited the /etc/network/interfaces file and did ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 and ping google.com to test it - with no success. does anybody know a step-by-step tutorial on the internet providing a solution for my problem? |
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| 06:46.00 | jpinx-ee1pc | batshwa: check your routng, gateway etc |
| 06:47.22 | batshwa | jpinx-ee1pc: i thought i have to do specify the gateway in the interfaces file |
| 06:47.43 | jpinx-ee1pc | batshwa: man route |
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| 06:51.30 | frikinz | Does anyone use _successfully_ an atheros TP-Link TL-WN422G v2 0cf3 1006 (ath9k_htc) and if yes, what are the steps? I'd prefer a debian kernel and a debian package including the firmware. |
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| 06:55.40 | Shadur | batshwa: Yes, you do. And have you checked your /etc/resolv.conf file? What error do you get when you try to ping? Do the requests time out or do you get a "host not found" error? In the former case, try a traceroute or use mtr |
| 06:56.37 | batshwa | Shadur: i get a "host not found" error |
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| 06:58.15 | batshwa | Shadur: the file resolv.conf says i shan't edit it by hand since it will be overwritten |
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| 06:58.46 | Shadur | batshwa: Does it currently contain anything else? |
| 06:59.00 | batshwa | Shadur: no, it's empty |
| 06:59.11 | adrakoa | vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device ¿? |
| 06:59.12 | Shadur | batshwa: Did you configure your DNS server anywhere? |
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| 06:59.43 | batshwa | Shadur: no... but i don't have any data regarding the dns server |
| 07:00.07 | Shadur | Your ISP should have provided that. |
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| 07:01.01 | batshwa | Shadur: i just have an assigned static ip, a gateway ip, a netmask, and a hostname |
| 07:01.14 | len71 | [6;3 |
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| 07:01.40 | len71 | batshwa: try using opendns dns servers? |
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| 07:02.56 | batshwa | len71: i have not tried it |
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| 07:04.26 | batshwa | under xfce everything was quite simple, i just typed in the data i mentioned above in some kind of wizard and it worked -- now i don't want to install xfce just for that |
| 07:05.30 | jpinx-eeepc | batshwa: I am surprised the ISP does not do dns for you |
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| 07:07.33 | batshwa | jpinx-eeepc: it is a connection provided by a university |
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| 07:09.56 | len71 | batshwa: ask university IT department for dns settings or try opendns |
| 07:10.11 | batshwa | len71: all right |
| 07:10.32 | len71 | batshwa: try the same ip address as your gateway...sometimes that may be enough |
| 07:10.34 | batshwa | should i have done a "/etc/init.d/networking restart" after editing the interfaces file? |
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| 07:11.03 | batshwa | len71: where do i have to specify the dns server? |
| 07:11.48 | len71 | batshwa: i joined late so may be you have discussed this already..but is there a reason why you are not using networkmanager but configuring /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 07:12.43 | len71 | in /etc/resolv.conf add a line saying: nameserver ipaddress-of-dns-server |
| 07:12.54 | batshwa | len71: no, i just do not know how to do this using networkmanager, since there is no possibility to enter the data like static ip etc. |
| 07:13.12 | len71 | there is...u can enter static ip in network manager |
| 07:13.56 | len71 | right click the icon in the system tray for network manager (if it is installed and showing), go to edit connections |
| 07:13.59 | batshwa | len71: all right, maybe that's a better way. the manpages just did not say a lot about networkmanager |
| 07:14.22 | len71 | add a new connection with the relevant specs |
| 07:14.38 | len71 | it allows u to configure wired connection, wireless and mobile... |
| 07:15.43 | batshwa | len71: i just have the option to edit the wireless connections, not the wired ones... |
| 07:16.29 | batshwa | len71: you are talking about nm-applet, right? |
| 07:16.40 | len71 | yes..nm-applet is correct |
| 07:17.17 | len71 | batshwa: is your ethernet card recognised by the machine? what does ifconfig show? |
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| 07:17.53 | batshwa | len71: yes, it is, i think |
| 07:18.22 | batshwa | it shows some info about "link encap, hwaddr, interrupt etc" |
| 07:18.31 | len71 | batshwa: does ifconfig show a wired and a wireless interface? |
| 07:18.43 | batshwa | len71: it shows both |
| 07:19.06 | len71 | what are these called? |
| 07:19.15 | batshwa | eth0 and eth2 |
| 07:19.18 | len71 | okay. |
| 07:19.46 | len71 | what version of network-manager do u have? |
| 07:20.31 | batshwa | len71: how can i check this? |
| 07:22.09 | len71 | right click on the icon, and see "About" |
| 07:22.32 | batshwa | len71: i just observed that nm-tool does not show my eth0 device, only the wireless eth2. is that a problem? |
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| 07:22.48 | len71 | yes. that is the problem. |
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| 07:23.02 | batshwa | len71: it just shows the version of nm-applet: 0.6.6 |
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| 07:24.51 | len71 | you can check it synaptic. |
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| 07:25.20 | len71 | i really don't know why nm-tool is not showing eth0 if it is shown in ifconfig |
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| 07:25.31 | len71 | hang on. |
| 07:25.31 | adrakoa | after i compile the module, dmseg shows nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel, Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint, NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found! |
| 07:25.40 | len71 | the problem is with your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:26.06 | batshwa_ | len71: all right, i can restore the old version, with no static interfaces |
| 07:27.03 | batshwa_ | len71: now it does dhcpdiscover upon calling ifup eth0 |
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| 07:36.33 | len71 | batshwa: sorry I lost my internet connection. have u been able to make a headway? |
| 07:37.21 | batshwa | len71: no problem. i restored the initial interfaces file, but nm-tool sill does not show eth0 |
| 07:38.43 | batshwa | len71: should i do "/etc/init.d/networking restart" ? |
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| 07:39.42 | len71 | the interfaces file should have only two lines. |
| 07:40.03 | len71 | auto lo |
| 07:40.17 | len71 | iface lo inet loopback |
| 07:40.22 | len71 | comment everything else |
| 07:40.26 | batshwa | len71: it contains iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 07:40.29 | batshwa | len71: ok |
| 07:40.34 | len71 | comment that. |
| 07:40.48 | len71 | that is why network manager is not handling eth0 |
| 07:41.23 | batshwa | len71: did that |
| 07:41.37 | len71 | see if nm-tool now shows eth0 |
| 07:41.37 | batshwa | len71: do i have to restart network-manager now? |
| 07:41.46 | len71 | perhaps..i am not sure. |
| 07:41.58 | len71 | not harm..do /etc/init.d/networkmanager restart |
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| 07:42.00 | batshwa | len71: still nothing |
| 07:42.15 | len71 | and /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 07:42.17 | batshwa | len71: ok, will do this |
| 07:42.56 | batshwa | it says "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" |
| 07:43.03 | len71 | yes. |
| 07:43.14 | len71 | network manager should pick it up. |
| 07:43.18 | batshwa | len71: and there is no entry in nm-tool |
| 07:43.38 | len71 | you still have /etc/network/interfaces something other than lo |
| 07:43.44 | len71 | why is it looking for eth0 |
| 07:44.04 | len71 | do you have an "auto eth0" line? |
| 07:44.12 | len71 | in the interfaces file? |
| 07:44.26 | batshwa | len71: no, just the two mentioned and other empty and commented lines |
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| 07:45.37 | _stefanos_ | morning everyone |
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| 07:46.12 | batshwa | len71: should i ifup eth0? |
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| 07:46.27 | len71 | ifdown eth0 |
| 07:46.33 | batshwa | len71: done |
| 07:46.39 | len71 | now? |
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| 07:47.10 | batshwa | len71: no, i was like this. it now says "interface eth0 not configured" |
| 07:47.26 | len71 | restart network-manager |
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| 07:47.49 | Gm4n | is there an easy way to install all updates except the kernel? I'd rather not reboot my server :P |
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| 07:48.21 | batshwa | len71: ok |
| 07:48.46 | len71 | network-manager should now show eth0...I cannot think of any other reason. |
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| 07:49.53 | batshwa | len71: still nothing |
| 07:50.20 | len71 | batshwa: sorry. that's as far as my knowledge goes... |
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| 07:51.29 | batshwa | len71: no problem, it has maybe to do with some config file we have overseen |
| 07:51.43 | batshwa | len71: thanks a lot for your help! |
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| 07:52.59 | macsim | hi, I add a cron job, I got the expected email + an extra email with "tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified" any idea ? thanks |
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| 07:54.05 | batshwa | len71: when i hold the mouse over nm-applet it says "manual network configuration". i have to check what the cause of this is |
| 07:54.52 | macsim | I got it color in script ... |
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| 07:55.29 | batshwa | len71: thanks again and have a nice day |
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| 08:13.48 | soumen08 | which of the 5 DVD images for debian's stable release should I download to setup a standard end-user oriented system? |
| 08:14.29 | jpinx-eeepc | 1 |
| 08:15.02 | soumen08 | jpinx-eeepc: thanks.. Would I need media codecs from elsewhere? |
| 08:15.54 | jpinx-eeepc | possibly -- /msg dpkg dmm |
| 08:16.23 | soumen08 | jpinx-eeepc: thanks will check that out.. |
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| 08:23.02 | harpal | should I create different boot partition or remain it on same partition |
| 08:23.57 | jpinx-eeepc | harpal: depends on your circumstances |
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| 08:25.02 | harpal | jpinx-eeepc: which circumstances? |
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| 08:25.36 | jpinx-eeepc | type of system, hardware available, etcc |
| 08:26.44 | harpal | jpinx-eeepc: I have a system with C7 processor and have 40Gb harddisk |
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| 08:27.18 | jpinx-eeepc | harpal: desktop? laptop? server? |
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| 08:27.55 | harpal | jpinx-eeepc: server |
| 08:28.40 | jpinx-eeepc | possibly best to make separate partitions for /boot and for /home |
| 08:28.56 | harpal | jpinx-eeepc: ok Thanks a lot |
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| 08:50.39 | _stefanos_ | hello again |
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| 08:53.12 | _stefanos_ | as i mentioned last night, i face an issue with limited size on my existing ext3 system. I did the stupid mistake to manually create my partitions and now I cannot resize them without facing the risk of losing data, unlike lvm2 which works flawlessly. |
| 08:54.21 | _stefanos_ | so, the most appropriate method would be to add another hard disk on my system and format it as lvm2 and move my partitions on that hard disk? |
| 08:55.26 | jpinx-eeepc | _stefanos_: you can resize the partitions you have ? |
| 08:55.53 | jpinx-eeepc | or are you actually out of space on the hdd? |
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| 08:56.36 | _stefanos_ | i have resized with gparted one of my partitions which is in the extend area, and i have tried to add that size to the partition who face the problem. |
| 08:57.03 | _stefanos_ | it does not show the free space to the partition i want |
| 08:57.25 | jpinx-eeepc | _stefanos_: pastebin the output of fdisk -l |
| 08:57.30 | _stefanos_ | ok |
| 08:58.29 | _stefanos_ | http://pastebin.com/fKdTtVDr |
| 08:58.55 | _stefanos_ | please be warned that these settings are under VirtualBox but they are exacly the same like my DesktopPC |
| 08:59.37 | _stefanos_ | in my case what i want to do, is to let lvm2 to take control of such actions. |
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| 08:59.55 | _stefanos_ | i have really regretted it that i have manually created my partitions |
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| 09:00.36 | jpinx-eeepc | so you have 5,6,8 and 9 -- what's the problem maybe pastebin the output of df -h ? |
| 09:02.03 | _stefanos_ | right away |
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| 09:02.53 | _stefanos_ | http://pastebin.com/YNusVJAh |
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| 09:03.11 | _stefanos_ | ignore the unnecessary partitions, like cd-rom and such |
| 09:04.36 | jpinx-eeepc | looks like you are only at 32% usage, so no need for another hdd |
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| 09:05.28 | jpinx-eeepc | you could try moving /home onto a new partition and making it automount at boot time |
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| 09:06.10 | jpinx-eeepc | _stefanos_: ^^ |
| 09:06.43 | jpinx-eeepc | _stefanos_: it depends on how you see the system filling up over time |
| 09:07.16 | jpinx-eeepc | lots more users each with their own stuff, or whatever |
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| 09:09.02 | _stefanos_ | home partition is not an issue |
| 09:09.20 | _stefanos_ | the problem i face at home is with /tmp and /usr partitions |
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| 09:12.51 | jpinx-eeepc | _stefanos_: those pastes don't match - they are from different parts of your system. df -h should list the mounted partitions meentioned in fdisk -l |
| 09:14.22 | _stefanos_ | i am under a live cd and these partitions are not mounted |
| 09:14.51 | jpinx-eeepc | then how do know they are full? |
| 09:15.00 | jpinx-eeepc | or getting full... |
| 09:15.28 | _stefanos_ | at home with df -h my /usr partition is 98% full |
| 09:15.37 | _stefanos_ | 4.2 of 4.6gb |
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| 09:16.21 | jpinx-eeepc | why don't you chroot into the system from your live cd - mount all the partitions somewhere just for now, and get clear picture of what's happening |
| 09:16.24 | _stefanos_ | and the /tmp is at a limited size of 4gb (i think?...or even less) |
| 09:16.41 | jpinx-eeepc | at home? or at work? ?? |
| 09:17.03 | _stefanos_ | right now i use virtualbox to test lvm migration |
| 09:17.12 | _stefanos_ | i am under a live cd |
| 09:17.27 | _stefanos_ | at work |
| 09:17.37 | jpinx-eeepc | you are in a live cd, on a base system, with virtualbox images? |
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| 09:18.05 | jpinx-eeepc | then do what I said and chroot into the base system and mount and do fdisk and df as before |
| 09:18.25 | _stefanos_ | my virtualbox is under windows xp, and i have created a 10GB Debian |
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| 09:18.52 | jpinx-eeepc | clear as mud :/ |
| 09:18.52 | _stefanos_ | from Debian I booted an iso ubuntu desktop 10.04 to test my system as I have said |
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| 09:19.57 | jpinx-eeepc | if you are in debian in a virtualbox, why are you in a live cd? Just do the fdisk and df |
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| 09:21.21 | _stefanos_ | i am under a live cd so i may test the changes on debian while is unmounted. how am i supposed to test it if i am using the system (i.e. mounted partitions)? |
| 09:22.58 | jpinx-eeepc | _stefanos_: what are you "testing" |
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| 09:23.53 | _stefanos_ | if it's plausible to migrate an existing ext3 system in lvm2 |
| 09:24.52 | _stefanos_ | brb |
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| 09:36.24 | _stefanos_ | i'm back |
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| 10:04.21 | stew | !qotd0 |
| 10:04.21 | dpkg | <|porta|> aptitude says i need to install OB packages.. i did aptitude install OB and it wouldn't |
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| 10:05.33 | jelly1 | i have some dependency issue's , caus someone mixed up unstable/testing on my install |
| 10:06.10 | jelly1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.47 | stew | jelly1: if you aren't already, try using aptitude |
| 10:06.53 | jelly1 | ok |
| 10:08.00 | stew | and note that when it says "Accept this solution?" you can say no and try for another |
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| 10:10.48 | adrakoa | lspci | grep vga. no output. |
| 10:10.59 | stew | adrakoa: grep -i ? |
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| 10:11.09 | adrakoa | yes |
| 10:11.42 | jelly1 | stew: hmm first time using aptitude here |
| 10:12.35 | stew | jelly1: did you run "aptitude" by itself? or something liek "aptitude install whatever" (or whatever you were doing with apt-get before) |
| 10:12.40 | jelly1 | stew: frst of all this http://dpaste.org/L9ng/ |
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| 10:13.10 | jelly1 | just |
| 10:13.12 | jelly1 | sudo aptitiude |
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| 10:15.06 | jelly1 | crap |
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| 10:17.31 | stew | jelly1: it looks to me like perhaps some required packages were already removed |
| 10:17.40 | jelly1 | hehe indeeed |
| 10:18.37 | stew | jelly1: does "dpkg -l libc-bin" show that package as installed? |
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| 10:19.11 | jelly1 | http://dpaste.org/8UoO/ |
| 10:19.22 | jelly1 | hmmm |
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| 10:19.36 | stew | guess not |
| 10:19.54 | stew | Priority: required |
| 10:20.02 | jelly1 | yeah |
| 10:20.11 | jelly1 | sudo aptitidude install libc-bin |
| 10:21.07 | jelly1 | i can't install anything anymore now |
| 10:21.34 | stew | jelly1: you can try to wget the .debs and install them with dpkg -i perhaps |
| 10:21.39 | Mikaze | dpkg-reconfigure dpkg |
| 10:22.07 | stew | Mikaze: does dpkg actually have any debconf questions? |
| 10:22.18 | jelly1 | Mikaze: Can't exec "locale": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Encoding.pm line 16. |
| 10:22.21 | jelly1 | Use of uninitialized value $Debconf::Encoding::charmap in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Encoding.pm line 17. |
| 10:22.25 | jelly1 | :p |
| 10:22.43 | Mikaze | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 10:22.52 | stew | Mikaze: stop |
| 10:22.58 | jelly1 | Mikaze: nop |
| 10:23.00 | stew | Mikaze: what do you expect that to do? |
| 10:23.15 | Mikaze | correct locales. |
| 10:23.32 | stew | Mikaze: i don't think his locaeles need correcting |
| 10:23.38 | stew | Mikaze: he's missing libc-bin |
| 10:24.22 | stew | jelly1: if you can't dpkg -i the libc-bin .deb, your next move might be to unpack and install it by hand |
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| 10:24.36 | jelly1 | HMM |
| 10:25.16 | stew | jelly1: and once you have a functional aptitdue, you'll want to "aptitude install '~prequired'" |
| 10:25.59 | jelly1 | ook unpacked it |
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| 10:26.32 | jelly1 | stew: now copy the files to /etc ? |
| 10:27.02 | stew | jelly1: what files? |
| 10:27.13 | stew | jelly1: you unpacked the libc-bin .deb? |
| 10:27.20 | jelly1 | yes |
| 10:27.24 | jelly1 | and data.tar.gz |
| 10:27.32 | stew | jelly1: not /etc but / |
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| 10:28.20 | jelly1 | ok done that |
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| 10:30.07 | jelly1 | stew: ok and now? :p |
| 10:30.21 | gadi | hello |
| 10:30.22 | jelly1 | it looks like it works again |
| 10:30.34 | gadi | debian has other aplication to create live usb appart of unetbootin? |
| 10:30.34 | jelly1 | stew: jelly@archlinux:~$ apt-show-versions | grep /testing |
| 10:30.38 | jelly1 | jelly@archlinux:~$ apt-show-versions | grep /unstable |
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| 10:30.53 | jelly1 | stew: thank you VERY much |
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| 10:32.15 | stew | jelly1: now I strongly encourage you to run "aptitude install ~prequired ~pimportant" |
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| 10:32.25 | jelly1 | ok |
| 10:32.44 | stew | jelly1: and "aptitude reinstall libc-bin" might be in order so that the control files are sure to be in place |
| 10:33.15 | jelly1 | libc-bin is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled. |
| 10:33.47 | jelly1 | stew: ^ |
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| 10:34.49 | stew | jelly1: yes, this is the type of thing we need to correct |
| 10:34.54 | stew | jelly1: so let it install |
| 10:34.58 | jelly1 | ok |
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| 10:35.08 | jelly1 | No candidate version found for libc-bin |
| 10:35.15 | jelly1 | stew: hmm this is strange |
| 10:35.32 | stew | jelly1: can you show me the output of "apt-cache policy"? |
| 10:36.00 | jelly1 | stew: http://dpaste.org/5LDf/ |
| 10:36.27 | stew | jelly1: right, your sources are pointing to stable, but you are running testing or unstable |
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| 10:36.46 | jelly1 | hmm |
| 10:36.55 | jelly1 | that can't be |
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| 10:37.14 | stew | this all started with libc6: Depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.2-6) |
| 10:37.19 | jelly1 | stew: yeah could be because of a freaking mistake |
| 10:37.22 | stew | judd: depends libc6 --release stable |
| 10:37.24 | jelly1 | stew: yup |
| 10:37.24 | judd | Package libc6 -- depends: libgcc1. |
| 10:37.29 | stew | judd: depends libc6 --release testing |
| 10:37.31 | judd | Package libc6 -- depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.2-5), libgcc1. |
| 10:37.36 | stew | judd: depends libc6 --release unstable |
| 10:37.38 | judd | Package libc6 -- depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.2-6), libgcc1. |
| 10:37.39 | jelly1 | hehe |
| 10:37.49 | stew | jelly1: so looks like you were running unstable when you arrived |
| 10:37.53 | jelly1 | i need to downgrade |
| 10:38.05 | stew | not supported |
| 10:38.09 | jelly1 | stew: yup then stuff messed up cause someone then removed unstable :p |
| 10:38.13 | jelly1 | stew: hmmm |
| 10:38.20 | stew | jelly1: /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 10:38.44 | jelly1 | stew: ok |
| 10:39.06 | jelly1 | stew: can't i reinstall all my packages? |
| 10:39.34 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly1: I told you yesterday to save your data and re-install |
| 10:39.39 | stew | jelly1: yes, but packages which have upgraded binary files won't work. packages which have scripts to upgrade to new versions of config files won't work |
| 10:39.39 | jelly1 | jpinx-eeepc: i know |
| 10:39.47 | jelly1 | stew: aha |
| 10:39.49 | jelly1 | ofc. |
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| 10:45.44 | rgr | libc dependencies again. |
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| 10:46.46 | rgr | jelly1: fwiw, I had similar but had no mixed install. it was just an update of testing to bring in emacs 23.2. |
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| 10:47.36 | jelly1 | rgr: libc deps again? |
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| 10:48.21 | rgr | no, not me. I just read the log here. Mine is "kind of ok" now. ie running ... I think I will have to reinstallf or the first time in about 2 years though since aptitude isnt showing ANY updates anymore. |
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| 10:52.59 | [raven] | hi |
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| 10:54.34 | [raven] | i'm having a problem with start-stop-daemon, http://paste.debian.net/91233/ , why start-stop-daemon, change the group but not the uid ? |
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| 11:05.16 | Creteil | hi all |
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| 11:07.00 | Creteil | I'm trying to build a package with 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot', compilation seem to run properly, but package creation end with error : |
| 11:07.02 | Creteil | dh_install -plibnet1 |
| 11:07.03 | Creteil | dh_install: libnet1 missing files (usr/lib/libnet.so.*), aborting |
| 11:07.05 | Creteil | make: *** [binary-install/libnet1] Error 1 |
| 11:07.11 | Creteil | someone have an idea ? |
| 11:07.15 | n1md4 | afternoon. what package contains arp? |
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| 11:08.02 | d3c | how may I log only STDERR from cron? |
| 11:08.03 | shifty | running etch here. about to upgrade to sid. (kind of a double jump, missing lenny in between). anyone want to tell me I'm setting myself up for a major fail? |
| 11:10.00 | shifty | n1md4: net-tools |
| 11:10.05 | simonrvn | shifty: you are. enjoy the pieces. |
| 11:11.10 | shifty | simonrvn: hehe i like a challenge. that being said... do I dist-upgrade to lenny, then to sid... ideas before I take the plunge? |
| 11:12.07 | roe | shifty, it is a triple jump |
| 11:12.09 | shifty | d3c: will come out in the mail? you could always redirect your stderr to a logfile, eg command 2>> logfile |
| 11:12.13 | jelly | shifty: debian does not support skipping releases. |
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| 11:12.30 | roe | etch ->lenny->squeeze->sid |
| 11:12.43 | jelly | roe: there's no real need to go thru testing |
| 11:13.07 | shifty | roe: eek, no wonder nobody tracks etch repos anymore. i'm kind of fond of my old school etch, but times are a changing... |
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| 11:14.08 | roe | jelly, so it is technically a double jump for another few weeks, then it will be a triple jump? |
| 11:14.10 | shifty | might be easier to do a fresh install. |
| 11:14.41 | jelly | roe: make that a few months |
| 11:14.56 | roe | jelly, sure |
| 11:16.23 | Mikaze | just can't wait until all the bugs are ironed out in the new 64-bit setups. |
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| 11:18.53 | shifty | i've got my entire disk LUKS encrypted. i hope the current fresh install process allows me to skip the wiping hard disk part - it's already got high quality random data. |
| 11:19.07 | Mikaze | grabs a few boxes of beads and heads for New Orleans. |
| 11:19.49 | shifty | doing a doulbe/triple jump is going to break things, isn't it. straw poll: what is your gut feeling: upgrade or fresh? |
| 11:20.24 | Mikaze | Fresh. Moving that one perl setup into Lenny's a bear. |
| 11:20.26 | darkskiez | I want to make a debian package which configures a bunch of things in the system, but the preinst/postinst scripts run after the packages are installed that it depends on, so my debconf-set-selections doesnt preseed the questions |
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| 11:20.57 | darkskiez | i also cant run apt-get from inside a postinst... what should the correct approach be |
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| 11:22.17 | Mikaze | heads over to #bash. |
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| 11:22.44 | shifty | hmmm. getting sentimental in my old age over antique installs :-) |
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| 11:24.56 | roe | shifty, no potatoes still hanging around? |
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| 11:25.24 | shifty | roe: v. amusing. nope. |
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| 11:29.22 | Deeps | hiya, i have a debian lenny 'server' / 'router' of sorts handling routing for my adsl line |
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| 11:29.54 | Deeps | when performing a file transfer on the server itself, i max out the line, but when doing a transfer on a routed host behind the box, it's quite slow, 30% of the line capacity |
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| 11:30.14 | Deeps | i've confirmed it's not an MTU issue (MTU 1500 across the network) |
| 11:30.24 | roe | what is the line capacity? |
| 11:30.40 | roe | 30% of what? |
| 11:30.42 | Deeps | (ping -M do -s 1472 <nexthop> on routed hosts and server manages fine) |
| 11:30.46 | Deeps | 10Mbit |
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| 11:31.39 | roe | so a file transfer is a steady 3mbps? |
| 11:31.47 | Deeps | there abouts |
| 11:32.14 | roe | what kind of switch/hub are you connected to? |
| 11:32.59 | Deeps | i've tried with both a generic unmanaged 100mbit switch, a linksys managed switch, and i'm currently sat on isp provided 802.11g wireless access point |
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| 11:34.00 | Deeps | problem exists on all 3 |
| 11:34.10 | roe | your NIC is a 10mbit nic? |
| 11:34.29 | Deeps | on the server? it's a 10/100Mbit NIC |
| 11:34.40 | roe | so why is it only connecting at 10Mbit? |
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| 11:34.55 | Deeps | it's syncing at 100Mbit to the switch, my uplink from my ISP is only 10Mbit |
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| 11:35.35 | roe | You're gonna have to explain your issue in greater detail, you lost me |
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| 11:35.40 | xingu | Deeps: what OS is the ruted host running? |
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| 11:35.44 | xingu | s/rut/rout/ |
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| 11:36.33 | Deeps | xingu: a combination of windows xp, windows 7, ubuntu desktop, debian lenny and debian squeeze - the problem exists on all routed hosts |
| 11:36.45 | abrotman | Deeps: so why is this a Debian problem? |
| 11:36.53 | Deeps | abrotman: because the server/router is running debian lenny |
| 11:37.02 | abrotman | did you try taking the router out of the equation? |
| 11:37.10 | xingu | Deeps: roughly what round trip time do you get per ping to the system you're downloading from? |
| 11:37.22 | abrotman | Deeps: how are you checking your connection speed? ethtool? mii-tool? |
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| 11:38.38 | Raven007 | hello |
| 11:38.48 | Deeps | RTT is ~110ms, but RTT to 3rd hop is ~100ms (geographic distance between canary islands and madrid), I haven't tried plugging the routed hosts in directly instead of via the router, but i have performed file transfers direct to the router and it's gone at full speed, NIC connection speed is indicated by mii-tool |
| 11:39.19 | abrotman | on both sides? |
| 11:39.51 | [raven] | i'm having a problem with start-stop-daemon, http://paste.debian.net/91233/ , why start-stop-daemon, change the group but not the uid ? |
| 11:39.54 | Deeps | yes, both the router and the lan host indicates 100mbit full duplex sync |
| 11:39.59 | xingu | Deeps: my best guess is that something is clobbering tcp window scaling or selective acknowledgements |
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| 11:40.26 | xingu | Deeps: are you using a proxy on the router, or are you just passing through using NAT? |
| 11:40.40 | Deeps | xingu: just passing through using NAT (iptables/MASQUERADE) |
| 11:41.11 | xingu | Deeps: ok; the reason why I suspect this is that 2 segments at 1476 bytes delivered every 100/110ms is scarily close to your max throughput number. |
| 11:41.37 | Deeps | right |
| 11:41.57 | xingu | Deeps: a bit of work with tcpdump on the inside vs outside interface comparing each case should prove it; the pattern you're looking for is ideally lots of rx fullsize segments between tx ack's |
| 11:42.24 | xingu | Deeps: and probably what you're getting is one ack tx for every 2 segments rx |
| 11:42.30 | abrotman | thinks someone just put a kink in the hose |
| 11:42.33 | xingu | Deeps: but that's all guesswork |
| 11:42.42 | Deeps | xingu: ok, if that is the case, how would i go about resolving it? |
| 11:42.45 | abrotman | <Dave2>I'll put a kink in your hose |
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| 11:43.17 | xingu | Deeps: if you restrict your troubleshooting to the case where you're testing from a linux system on the inside we can start with the assumption that the network stack is sane; otherwise, not. |
| 11:43.37 | Deeps | I can do that |
| 11:43.38 | xingu | Deeps: first do the tcpdumps and see if this is indeed what's going on |
| 11:43.41 | Deeps | ok |
| 11:43.58 | Deeps | tcpdumps on routed host interface, router's lan interface and router's wan interface? or just one of the above? |
| 11:44.29 | xingu | Deeps: assuming yes, I'd have a look at perhaps disabling tso on each of the 3 affected network interfaces via ethtool; -k to query, or ethtool -K tso off |
| 11:44.36 | xingu | Deeps: all of those 3 |
| 11:44.43 | xingu | Deeps: see who's doing what to whom |
| 11:44.57 | xingu | Deeps: nb, pcap sees the tcp flow *before* tso mangles it. |
| 11:45.08 | Deeps | wok |
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| 11:45.31 | xingu | Deeps: that's probably about as far as we want to go before you know that this is the problem (it may still be a dead end) |
| 11:45.36 | Deeps | xingu: thank you very much for your insight and help so far btw |
| 11:45.48 | xingu | Deeps: progress over on ##networking probably if this is the fault |
| 11:45.56 | Deeps | ok |
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| 11:48.13 | Deeps | tso = tcp-segmentation-offload? if so, it's off already |
| 11:48.15 | Nepherius | uhm got a noobish question ..there are like 40 iso on debian.org wich one should I get ?:) |
| 11:48.20 | Deeps | starts tcpdumping anyway |
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| 11:48.54 | tarzeau | Nepherius: which computer do you have? |
| 11:49.10 | jpinx-eeepc | Nepherius: what are you tring to do? |
| 11:49.30 | Nepherius | well get a install cd iso |
| 11:49.45 | Nepherius | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.6/i386/bt-cd/ ..this list is huge :) |
| 11:49.48 | jpinx-eeepc | Nepherius: did you consider a netinstall? |
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| 11:50.11 | Nepherius | not really .. |
| 11:50.12 | xingu | Deeps: maybe pastebin the others as well as ethtool -i output for the interfaces concerned, when you get that far along |
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| 11:50.46 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell Nepherius about netinstall |
| 11:51.00 | xingu | Deeps: it may be that MASQUERADE is clobbering your window scaling... tcpdump of the initial part of the flow (3-way handshake, and say 1-2min worth) will reveal all. |
| 11:51.23 | Deeps | ah no, i was looking at the wrong interface on one of the linux routed hosts, turning it off has solved it there |
| 11:51.39 | Deeps | brilliant, thank you |
| 11:51.52 | xingu | Deeps: if it's e1000 or e1000e, look for a NIC firmware update from your manufacturer. |
| 11:52.21 | abrotman | i think they have some firmware packages in bpo |
| 11:52.24 | xingu | Deeps: ethtool -i reports the firmware rev |
| 11:52.26 | Nepherius | ok , ty jpinx-eeepc |
| 11:52.46 | Deeps | xingu: ah cool, will do. next trick is working out how to fix the windows hosts, but thats off topic for in here |
| 11:53.05 | Deeps | xingu: thank you very much for your help, i'll continue to do some tcpdumps with the windows hosts now and see what they're doing now too :) |
| 11:53.09 | xingu | Deeps: right; firmware update, or failing that turn it off on the adapter properties - point/click, easy right? |
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| 11:53.22 | Deeps | unlikely |
| 11:53.26 | xingu | grins |
| 11:53.34 | Deeps | these kind of tweaks are generally hidden away |
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| 11:54.04 | Deeps | thanks again, at least the linux hosts get real speed now |
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| 11:55.25 | jpinx-eeepc | Nepherius: np :) good luck |
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| 12:17.35 | cire | I am searching for help with setting up kde4/phonon with jack. Where should I ask for support? |
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| 12:18.57 | abrotman | you can try here .. good luck! |
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| 12:20.28 | cire | okay. At first I need to get some general information about kde4 sound system. As long as I know phonon is the backend all kde programs push their audio streams to, so it may mix them and output them to alsa, right? |
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| 12:21.33 | cire | So, where exactly does jack fit into that? Does it replace or extend phonon? Or is it between the apps and phonon? (phonon has a jack device in my kde4 multimedia settings) |
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| 12:28.20 | arcsky | how can i attach my friends screen ? |
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| 12:28.47 | tomodachi | arcsky: ctr+a : se multiuser on |
| 12:28.49 | tomodachi | i think |
| 12:28.54 | tomodachi | set |
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| 12:29.41 | bint | how can i search a file or folder if i dont know the exact name? i tried to search with wildcards "find folder*" |
| 12:29.45 | bint | but this doens't wor |
| 12:29.58 | bint | man page :D |
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| 12:33.50 | philthno2 | Raven007, we talked yesterday about read-only roots? |
| 12:34.00 | Raven007 | yep |
| 12:34.02 | philthno2 | Raven007, I have a working solution now |
| 12:34.11 | Raven007 | :) cool |
| 12:34.23 | Raven007 | how did you do it, in short? |
| 12:34.26 | philthno2 | Raven007, http://www.logicsupply.com/blog/2009/01/27/how-to-build-a-read-only-linux-system/ |
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| 12:34.59 | philthno2 | AUFS, writable layer over read-only root and the writable layer is in RAM so forgotten at reboot. |
| 12:35.18 | Raven007 | nice |
| 12:35.44 | n1md4 | thanks, shifty. |
| 12:35.50 | philthno2 | this solution works perfectly with lenny, but for the second script (the one in init-bottom) you have to take the improved version at the end of the article |
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| 12:36.31 | philthno2 | Raven007, and to use apt-get and so on, I just boot in single-user-mode. |
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| 12:37.38 | shifty | n1md4: no probs. |
| 12:38.13 | mrtnt | I made a shell script called test.sh. I would like cron to execute this script every minute until i delete it from cron. If I do "crontab -l", I'm able to see this: "1 * * * * /home/martin/test.sh > /var/log/temp". The problem is, that this script is not executed at all. Any ideas? |
| 12:40.02 | at0m | mrtnt: does it run if you /home/martin/test.sh ? |
| 12:40.41 | mrtnt | at0m: yes |
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| 12:41.59 | mrtnt | at0m: cron process is started and owned by root |
| 12:42.12 | at0m | mrtnt: don't know that much about cron, but I think you now set it to execute 1min after each hour |
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| 12:43.58 | at0m | mrtnt: running it every half hour would be 1,31 - so every minute would be 1,2,3,4, etc |
| 12:44.50 | at0m | maybe there's better things to do that, like a wait or sleep and some sort of loop |
| 12:45.22 | at0m | without cron then |
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| 12:45.45 | mrtnt | at0m: hmm..according to this example: http://www.pantz.org/software/cron/croninfo.html running cron every minute of every hour of every day of every month should be "* * * * * /home/martin/test.sh > /var/log/temp" |
| 12:46.07 | at0m | mrtnt: ah, * would indeed make sense :D |
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| 12:47.12 | mrtnt | at0m: however, even this "* * * * * /home/martin/test.sh > /var/log/temp" does not work. It looks like some sort of permissions issue. |
| 12:48.30 | at0m | mrtnt: not only root can do cron jobs, just crontab -e as a specific user |
| 12:49.02 | at0m | and of course make sure thst user can run the script |
| 12:49.08 | at0m | s/thst/that |
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| 12:50.17 | at0m | mrtnt: that was a reply to your "cron process is started and owned by root" |
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| 12:51.40 | sec_goat_ | Good morning IRC! |
| 12:51.53 | K0JIbKA | Good evening! |
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| 13:04.28 | sec_goat_ | Oh shoot, did I oversleep again? |
| 13:04.34 | sec_goat_ | no wonder no one is in the office! |
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| 13:11.38 | bolt | ... |
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| 13:12.58 | sec_goat_ | Hey is there a way to copy a folder from a remote machine after initiating an SSH session with it? |
| 13:13.35 | petern_ | not in the same ssh session |
| 13:13.43 | petern_ | there is sftp, however |
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| 13:15.46 | KB1JWQ | Or scp or rsync or... :-) |
| 13:16.09 | Onkel | hi. how do i change resolution for gnome |
| 13:16.23 | sec_goat_ | do I just need to install sftp on my box then? |
| 13:16.34 | Onkel | i mostly use command line but im just learning |
| 13:17.02 | Onkel | if i try to startx the monitor says out of frequenzy |
| 13:17.14 | Onkel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:17.49 | mohamed-ragab | hi all i want streaming Video from my vps , how to ? |
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| 13:22.02 | bint | ahh there was a tool to see the currently running process and stuff.. something like TAP or TAN or so |
| 13:22.12 | Deeps | top |
| 13:22.16 | bint | thanks |
| 13:22.19 | philthno2 | Sec_goat, you can use scp: scp user@remote:file local_file |
| 13:23.01 | bint | can i somehow display all running process.. not only the one of root? |
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| 13:23.24 | philthno2 | Sec_goat, scp is pretty much standard I think, should be installed with a basic system |
| 13:25.08 | sec_goat_ | I just installed the basic Debian... Lenny I guess? now it looks like I would run SCP from the local machine to grab a file from a remote machine, is that correct? |
| 13:25.21 | philthno2 | bint, "man ps" gives a very nice example --> ps aux |
| 13:25.55 | philthno2 | Sec_goat, yes that's correct. Or to copy a file from local to remote. |
| 13:26.49 | philthno2 | Sec_goat, it is related with SSH in some way (makes use of it?), that means: If you can SSH to a machine, then you can copy files with scp. |
| 13:27.42 | sec_goat_ | very nice, the forewall is forwarding the SSH traffic so scp should be good... but the local machine I am on is running windows... means I should use something like Winscp? |
| 13:29.00 | sec_goat_ | I guess I know more than I let on. . . thanks for letting me bounce some ideas off you guys |
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| 13:31.44 | bint | thank you Phil-Work |
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| 13:36.15 | RichiH | can i install packages into my $HOME, i.e. make user-specific installs? |
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| 13:39.25 | jordanm | RichiH: not with .deb packages, but yes |
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| 13:41.56 | RichiH | jordanm: i know about compiling from source ;) |
| 13:43.08 | stew | RichiH: installing a deb into your $HOME would be somehting like unpacking the deb by hand (with, for instance, dpkg -x), manually doing whatever the maintainer scripts might have needed to do, them maybe fixing whatever else might have been relying on a path relative to / (like a configfile in /etc/ perhaps) |
| 13:43.23 | stew | RichiH: nothing has really been done to make this any easier afaik |
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| 13:52.18 | [raven] | i'm having a problem with start-stop-daemon, http://paste.debian.net/91233/ , why start-stop-daemon, change the group but not the uid ? |
| 13:53.19 | RichiH | stew: yah, i couldn't see anything either, but i thought i'd ask |
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| 13:55.36 | jordanm | he didn't stay long |
| 13:55.47 | jordanm | anyways, he wants --chuid, not -u |
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| 13:57.45 | alphageek | quick question. now that http://atterer.net/ has ceased to be, where's jigdo hosted? |
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| 13:59.44 | abrotman | alphageek: the project you mean? |
| 13:59.49 | alphageek | yep |
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| 14:00.28 | abrotman | alphageek: email the maintainer and ask |
| 14:00.35 | alphageek | I see that 0.7.3 is in the deb repo, so it's not an emergency.. I'm on another distro, but use jigdo-file for some moderately important stuff |
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| 14:00.54 | abrotman | it seems the debian maintainer was the same as the owner of that domain |
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| 14:01.05 | stew | alphageek: http://atterer.org/jigdo |
| 14:01.37 | stew | (foudn that by checking db.debian.org for atterer's homepage |
| 14:01.38 | stew | ) |
| 14:01.44 | alphageek | ahh, sneaky |
| 14:01.55 | alphageek | updates appropriate urls locally |
| 14:01.58 | alphageek | thanks guys |
| 14:02.37 | stew | alphageek: do you want to file a bug on jigdo-file for the hompage change? |
| 14:03.46 | alphageek | go for it. I haven't a clue how such things are handled with debian maintenance |
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| 14:07.05 | frikinz | Is there a way I could know when the next kernel will arrive in experimental? I need a 2.6.36 for a different arch than what I'm running, so I would need cross-compiling. |
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| 14:09.36 | alphageek | welp, got what I needed. thanks again |
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| 14:11.51 | Hostnamer | I have several clients running Windows using a Sambaserver on Linux. I want to be able to do hostname lookups from the clients (i.e. typing "ping computername" instead of "ping 192.168.x.x"). Is activating WINS in Samba the way to go or what's the general approach? |
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| 14:14.48 | nsadmin | why would there be a difference in which shell is used to run make rules between one lenny and another? |
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| 14:19.49 | xro | hi, is it possible to add a local user with the same name as an ldap user? when i do the useradd -s /bin/false -g myGroup UserName i get user already exist but i need to have it locally.... |
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| 14:24.19 | fishcooker | globus@xxx:~$ who |
| 14:24.19 | fishcooker | globus tty2 Sep 24 04:01 |
| 14:24.19 | fishcooker | globus pts/1 Sep 24 04:21 (xxx) |
| 14:24.28 | fishcooker | how to kill globus on tty2 |
| 14:24.36 | fishcooker | or force him to logoff |
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| 14:25.22 | nsadmin | kill its shell process |
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| 14:29.06 | weijia` | www |
| 14:29.24 | weijia` | @()@ |
| 14:31.58 | xro | ok, i renamed my ldap user... create the local one then renamed again the ldap user... |
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| 14:33.15 | Nepherius | hmm everytime i open a new folder it opens in a new window , how do i make it open in the same window ? |
| 14:33.50 | jordanm | Nepherius: using nautilus? |
| 14:33.55 | jpinx-eeepc | Nepherius: what system? |
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| 14:34.29 | Nepherius | yes nautilus |
| 14:34.50 | tharkun | Nepherius: there is an option in nautilus to make it behave like a browser |
| 14:35.00 | jpinx-eeepc | over to jordanm - I don't have nautilus |
| 14:35.12 | jordanm | Nepherius: preferences -> always open in browser window |
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| 14:36.25 | Nepherius | found it , ty |
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| 14:36.52 | krisfremen | hmmm |
| 14:37.18 | krisfremen | i'm on debian lenny, just installed fortunes-mod, but i can't find fortunes in my path anywhere |
| 14:37.57 | jordanm | ,info fortunes-mod --release sid |
| 14:37.58 | judd | No record of package 'fortunes-mod' in sid/i386. |
| 14:38.08 | jordanm | krisfremen: doesn't appear to have came from debian |
| 14:38.21 | krisfremen | it's in the repos? |
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| 14:38.59 | krisfremen | oh oops |
| 14:39.05 | jordanm | krisfremen: "fortunes-mod", no |
| 14:39.06 | krisfremen | ,info fortune-mod --release sid |
| 14:39.07 | tharkun | ,versions fortune-mod |
| 14:39.08 | judd | Package fortune-mod (games, optional) in sid/i386: provides fortune cookies on demand. Version: 1:1.99.1-4; Size: 46.7k; Installed: 144k |
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| 14:39.10 | judd | Package fortune-mod on i386 -- etch: 1:1.99.1-3; lenny: 1:1.99.1-3.1; sid: 1:1.99.1-4; squeeze: 1:1.99.1-4 |
| 14:39.22 | korsakof | Hi... On a debian/ubuntu server, after I issued an "apt-get upgrade" is there a way to know if a reboot is needed/suggested? |
| 14:39.56 | jordanm | krisfremen: see the full package description. "aptitude show fortune-mod" |
| 14:39.58 | drokmed | reboot only when new kernel installed |
| 14:40.09 | jordanm | korsakof: debian/ubuntu? which is it? |
| 14:40.22 | korsakof | both actually... |
| 14:40.33 | tharkun | korsakof: if a reboot is needed the server will tell you in a very convincing matter. Unless it is the kernel i've never needed to reboot after upgrading packages |
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| 14:41.39 | krisfremen | jordanm: nothing in the description, it says installed and all, but it doesn't show up anywhere |
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| 14:42.32 | jordanm | krisfremen: the description indicates to me that you need 'fortunes-min', 'fortunes', or 'fortunes-off' packages as well |
| 14:42.34 | korsakof | My main concern is about my proxmox ve servers which are debian based... I don't want to migrate all my VMs each time I update my server... |
| 14:42.42 | krisfremen | i have them all installed |
| 14:43.07 | jordanm | krisfremen: ah, that does contian the binary, fortune-mod: /usr/games/fortune |
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| 14:43.27 | krisfremen | weird |
| 14:43.33 | fishcooker | thanks for quick response nsadmin |
| 14:43.37 | fishcooker | how to trace it |
| 14:43.44 | fishcooker | look for bash process?! |
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| 14:44.39 | krisfremen | thanks jordanm |
| 14:44.47 | nsadmin | fuser or lsof could be interesting tools. check the man pages for each to see how to use them and if they apply. |
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| 14:45.39 | nsadmin | btw, tty2 is your console |
| 14:45.47 | jordanm | fishcooker: ps aux | grep tty2 |
| 14:45.49 | nsadmin | just switch to it and log otu |
| 14:46.03 | jordanm | ps probably has an arguement to handle that, but im too lazy to check it out |
| 14:46.39 | nsadmin | you can get to tty1 by doing ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 14:46.59 | nsadmin | tty2 is probably similar :P |
| 14:47.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | you mean you get there with ctrl-alt-F1, too? |
| 14:47.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | tee hee |
| 14:47.43 | nsadmin | similar not identical :P sheesh :P |
| 14:47.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | alt-F1, then |
| 14:48.23 | fishcooker | LoL, thanks for the response jordanm |
| 14:48.27 | nsadmin | well if you're in X that key combination is swallowed and used for something else |
| 14:49.17 | nsadmin | I'm hoping that if he didn't know before, figuring it out gets him more capability he didn't have before |
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| 14:50.11 | fishcooker | yip2, it works |
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| 14:52.23 | korsakof | thanks |
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| 14:53.49 | andares | hey, in the debian installer, is there some way I can manually override what it detects as hd0 and hd1? |
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| 15:00.00 | AlexC_ | morning |
| 15:00.08 | AlexC_ | how can I disable/uninstall NFS? |
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| 15:01.20 | jpinx-eeepc | evening... |
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| 15:01.42 | philthno2 | AlexC_, disable through removing the symlink from /etc/rc2.d/ I think |
| 15:01.46 | philthno2 | ? |
| 15:03.31 | AlexC_ | philthno2: would remove the 'portmap' package be better? I don't need this as far as I know, but not sure if it will break anything |
| 15:04.11 | stew | AlexC_: a common reason for needing portmap these days is that fam uses it |
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| 15:05.15 | AlexC_ | stew: ok, this is for a headless httpd server, and fam is not installed |
| 15:05.33 | stew | AlexC_: you can see what portmap might want to take with it |
| 15:05.49 | stew | AlexC_: or "aptitude -s remove '~nnfs.*server'" |
| 15:05.57 | AlexC_ | nfs-common and portmap, seems good enough to me |
| 15:05.59 | stew | err without th -s |
| 15:06.00 | stew | sure |
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| 15:06.19 | stew | AlexC_: note that you are removing your ability to use NFS as a client as well |
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| 15:06.38 | AlexC_ | that's fine, unless something is using NFS that I'm not aware of by default, then we don't use it |
| 15:07.43 | Nepherius | I`m trying to configure a torrent client but it seems all ports I try all closed , but they work fine on transmission bt client.. |
| 15:08.10 | jordanm | then why not use transmission? |
| 15:08.19 | AlexC_ | stew: NIS relies on RPC right? We also don't use NIS, so would removing these packages be enough - or is there more to disabling NIS? |
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| 15:08.19 | Nepherius | its crap |
| 15:08.21 | Nepherius | :) |
| 15:08.43 | Nepherius | it doesnt work right |
| 15:08.44 | jordanm | Nepherius: my guess is that transmissions supports uPnP and the other does not |
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| 15:10.02 | Nepherius | great so my choices are , low dl speed or use a client that only downloads when it feels like it ^^ |
| 15:10.27 | gh0zt | will lenny out perform ubuntu 10.04 for just running a cache and serving web pages? i want to use the smallest amount of memory as possible |
| 15:10.38 | frikinz | or do what upnp does: configure your router |
| 15:10.43 | AlexC_ | gh0zt: that depends entire on how you configure it |
| 15:11.22 | AlexC_ | gh0zt: I find Debian a lot lighter than Ubuntu for both server + desktop; all our servers within our company our Debian based |
| 15:11.23 | stew | gh0zt: you shouldn't expect a measurable difference |
| 15:11.24 | gh0zt | so they're both the same out of the box on memory usage? |
| 15:11.33 | AlexC_ | gh0zt: no, they install differing things |
| 15:11.35 | stew | gh0zt: no |
| 15:12.14 | AlexC_ | but who uses a web server from an out of the box install? :P |
| 15:12.19 | stew | gh0zt: you shouldn't expect any distro to vastly different performance wise once you've configured them as you want them |
| 15:12.42 | stew | feel free to insert a linking verb into the above sentence |
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| 15:12.55 | gh0zt | :) |
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| 15:13.28 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 15:13.31 | gh0zt | i think i'll try them side by side on rackspace and see what happens |
| 15:13.45 | gh0zt | all i am running is varnish and apache/php |
| 15:13.45 | johnfg | Well, bummer in regards to squeeze this morning. |
| 15:14.20 | gh0zt | thanks for the help |
| 15:14.23 | johnfg | I downloaded the latest weekly build, installed it, but installation of the bootloader failed! It hadn't done that a few weeks ago. |
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| 15:14.54 | jordanm | johnfg: any details in the debugging console? |
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| 15:15.04 | johnfg | I was hoping that with the installation of 2.6.32 bpo on lenny, and it relabeling my disks, I'd be able to get grub2 configured. |
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| 15:15.18 | johnfg | I.e., after installing squeeze. |
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| 15:15.49 | johnfg | jordanm, No, the only thing it said was that it was unable to write to a grub partition (I think). |
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| 15:18.00 | johnfg | I wish I would have kept that build from a few weeks ago and have tried it. No problems with its installation, and it detected win xp correctly, but not lenny correctly. |
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| 15:19.55 | johnfg | jordanm, Any ideas what else I might try? |
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| 15:20.45 | geograsX | hi |
| 15:20.47 | geograsX | guys .. |
| 15:20.57 | geograsX | now i can install anything |
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| 15:21.29 | karlpinc | johnfg: You could try getting shell in the installer and manually installing the bootloader. |
| 15:21.32 | geograsX | apt-get wont work.. could be I have 4 months didnt use my pc |
| 15:21.34 | geograsX | apt-get wont work.. could be I have 4 months didnt use my pc? |
| 15:21.46 | karlpinc | geograsX: Have you done an "aptitude update"? |
| 15:22.02 | geograsX | no..upgrade |
| 15:22.06 | karlpinc | geograsX: What version of debian? |
| 15:22.12 | geograsX | 5.0 lenny |
| 15:22.20 | johnfg | karlpinc, Yeah, I tried that. Did /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda, but it failed. |
| 15:22.28 | karlpinc | geograsX: Then do an update so the system knows what packages exist. |
| 15:22.35 | karlpinc | !tell geograsX about why aptitude |
| 15:22.42 | geograsX | ok..im on it. thank you! |
| 15:23.26 | karlpinc | johnfg: You could tell us what it said. You could also try running grub yourself to install the bootloader. (I'm clueless about grub2....) |
| 15:24.20 | geograsX | karlpinc: just did the aptitude update, just finished is that ok? |
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| 15:24.32 | karlpinc | geograsX: Now "aptitude safe-upgrade" |
| 15:25.00 | karlpinc | geograsX: (safe-upgrade is the new word instead of "upgrade") |
| 15:25.11 | jordanm | johnfg: feel free to provide d-i bug report feedback |
| 15:25.16 | tharkun | What command do i need to uses to get the different speeds a nic has ? |
| 15:25.35 | karlpinc | tharkun: ethtool? ?? |
| 15:25.54 | geograsX | karlpinc: ok...is working..its gonna take a while. |
| 15:26.26 | geograsX | karlpinc: really appreciate it! |
| 15:26.52 | karlpinc | geograsX: You're sure to get a new kernel so will need a reboot lest you run with one with security holes. |
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| 15:27.39 | johnfg | Do you have another version of squeeze, another build available that I should try? |
| 15:28.11 | karlpinc | johnfg: IIRC snapshot.debian.org has all package versions, but I don't know if it keeps the installer versions. |
| 15:28.27 | jordanm | johnfg: if a month ago, the weekly build worked fine, but now is failing, you really should file a report |
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| 15:29.44 | johnfg | jordanm, I wish I had more details to report. Nothing was done by me any differently than a month ago. But I will file the report with the little that I have. |
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| 15:30.03 | geograsX | karlpinc: so im rebooting after? |
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| 15:32.09 | karlpinc | geograsX: I'd be a good idea. Better safe than sorry when it comes to security patches. |
| 15:32.23 | tharkun | karlpinc: thx worked great |
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| 15:34.07 | AlexC_ | how can I see what packages depend on fam? |
| 15:34.28 | karlpinc | AlexC_: apt-cache rdepends fam (IIRC) |
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| 15:35.16 | qwd | And if you want to see why it's installed you can do aptitude why fam |
| 15:35.18 | babilen | AlexC_: ... and if you want to know why fam is installed on your system issue "aptitude why fam" |
| 15:35.20 | geograsX | karlpinc: what is your idea? |
| 15:35.45 | AlexC_ | babilen: ahhhh, excellent. Thanks karlpinc qwd as well :) |
| 15:35.46 | karlpinc | geograsX: To reboot. |
| 15:36.11 | AlexC_ | interesting, lighttpd depends on fam |
| 15:36.16 | karlpinc | geograsX: (s/I'd/It'd/) |
| 15:36.41 | rysiek|pl | AlexC_: fam?.. jeez, you'd think everyone already moved to inotify... |
| 15:36.45 | geograsX | ok ..thank man.. |
| 15:37.51 | geograsX | karlpinc: just finished ..so rebooting now.. |
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| 15:39.34 | johnfg | jordanm, Where does that report get filed? |
| 15:40.38 | jordanm | johnfg: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s04.html#submit-bug |
| 15:41.09 | peterrooney | and here I'd just finished the switch to dnotify. ~_^ |
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| 15:42.24 | Gijs | How do i find out if i have a firewall running? |
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| 15:43.11 | jordanm | Gijs: iptables -L |
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| 15:44.14 | Gijs | http://pastebin.com/da5tWdhi |
| 15:44.21 | Gijs | and how do i see wich rules i have? |
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| 15:47.16 | jordanm | Gijs: you don't have any, all is accepted |
| 15:47.29 | Gijs | hmm strange |
| 15:47.30 | Gijs | then this |
| 15:47.35 | Gijs | http://pastebin.com/QYUhkR5Y |
| 15:47.57 | Gijs | line 38: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 15:48.14 | Gijs | something is blocking connection to those ips on this port |
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| 15:49.41 | stew | Gijs: or nothing is listening to port 53 |
| 15:49.51 | xingu | votes the latter |
| 15:49.58 | xingu | good old lame delegations |
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| 15:54.03 | Nepherius | I`m trying to update pidgin and i get this http://pastebin.com/qGakhcrP .. |
| 15:54.44 | johnfg | OK, report filed. |
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| 15:55.37 | Nepherius | any suggestions about how i can fix that ?:) |
| 15:57.19 | korsakof | Nepherius: did you tried to import that key? sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 67265eb522bdd6b1c69e66ed7fb8bee0a1f196a8 |
| 15:58.02 | korsakof | Nepherius: import it then reissue your previous command |
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| 15:59.04 | themill | can't imagine that this is a good thing to do on a debian machine |
| 15:59.06 | stew | Nepherius: what is pidgin-ppa? |
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| 16:00.22 | iceroot | stew: normally an ubuntu-repo |
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| 16:03.18 | stew | Nepherius: are you installing ubuntu packages only debian? |
| 16:03.28 | stew | Nepherius: this is something we'd discourage |
| 16:03.34 | Nepherius | sry i did a reboot |
| 16:03.46 | stew | s/only/onto/ |
| 16:04.11 | Nepherius | pidgin-ppa is some sort of update for pigdin im |
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| 16:04.24 | stew | Nepherius: ok. are you installing this onto debian or ubuntu? |
| 16:04.45 | Nepherius | debian , its already installed i`m trying to get a newer version |
| 16:05.06 | stew | Nepherius: we'd strongly discourage you from installing packages intended for ubuntu onto debian |
| 16:05.08 | Nepherius | i just installed debian a few hours ajo |
| 16:05.18 | stew | Nepherius: use debian's backports instead |
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| 16:05.40 | Nepherius | thats what i just tried stew and it gave me that error |
| 16:05.54 | stew | Nepherius: what command gave you that error? |
| 16:06.01 | themill | Nepherius: please think twice before installing packages and adding repos. PPAs are not designed for debian and are of incredibly varying quality. You should know much more about a repository than "some sort of update" prior using it. |
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| 16:11.07 | Nepherius | apt-get -t lenny-backports install pidgin |
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| 16:11.30 | Nepherius | and i get that error when it tries to remove ppa |
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| 16:13.27 | themill | Nepherius: that sounds like a known problem with this hideous pidgin-ppa package. If we help you to fix it now, will you promise never to use PPAs or Ubuntu packages on a Debian machine in the future? |
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| 16:14.11 | helo | what if he crosses his fingers? |
| 16:14.25 | Nepherius | lol ..like i said it was already here |
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| 16:14.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, or shouts "maybe, maybe" while typing yes? |
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| 16:14.46 | stew | Nepherius: what was already where? |
| 16:14.47 | themill | Nepherius: not on a brand new install it wasn't |
| 16:14.54 | Nepherius | ofc it was.. |
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| 16:14.59 | stew | Nepherius: you mean this pidgin-ppa package was already on your machine? |
| 16:15.14 | Nepherius | pidgin was |
| 16:15.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | magically appeared? |
| 16:15.38 | Nepherius | maybe ^^ |
| 16:15.38 | themill | Nepherius: pidgin is not pidgin-ppa. |
| 16:15.42 | jordanm | hates when people dodge answering a question directly |
| 16:16.01 | Nepherius | yea i added ppa ..i think |
| 16:16.12 | jordanm | Nepherius: we know that you did |
| 16:16.44 | stew | anyway |
| 16:16.49 | themill | Nepherius: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy pidgin-ppa pidgin apt libc6 dpkg" for us? |
| 16:17.01 | Nepherius | anyway ..i rebooted and now my root pass doesnt work , seems everything goes wrong today |
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| 16:17.48 | Nepherius | torrent client stucks at connecting , im dosent have yahoo and now my root pass dosent work |
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| 16:18.16 | stew | Nepherius: do you have another way to login to the root account? like did you setup sudo? |
| 16:18.26 | stew | or an ssh-key |
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| 16:18.58 | Nepherius | nephy is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 16:19.09 | Nepherius | now i`m in trouble :P |
| 16:19.15 | stew | Nepherius: /msg dpkg ifrp |
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| 16:19.21 | vic20gmr | hello, im trying to get debian to run under vpc |
| 16:19.38 | jordanm | vic20gmr: are you the same guy from the mailing list? |
| 16:19.47 | vic20gmr | idk |
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| 16:19.59 | vic20gmr | i dont remeber signing up for a mailing list |
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| 16:20.11 | nimred | hello all |
| 16:20.18 | drokmed | heyas |
| 16:20.20 | nimred | is nouveau driver available for lenny ? |
| 16:20.39 | jordanm | vic20gmr: http://lists.debian.org/E1OyoSt-0002NB-TQ@franck.debian.org |
| 16:20.51 | vic20gmr | it says kernal panic - not syncing: attempted to kill the idle process |
| 16:20.57 | vic20gmr | o |
| 16:20.58 | vic20gmr | ok |
| 16:20.59 | vic20gmr | thx |
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| 16:21.05 | jordanm | vic20gmr: use something that a) not proprietary b) not crap |
| 16:21.10 | jordanm | vic20gmr: eg. virtualbox |
| 16:21.13 | vic20gmr | suggestions? |
| 16:21.29 | jordanm | vic20gmr: the thread covers the discussion |
| 16:21.38 | vic20gmr | vb is avail {precompiled} for winxp? |
| 16:21.44 | jordanm | yes |
| 16:21.48 | vic20gmr | OK |
| 16:21.51 | vic20gmr | ops |
| 16:21.55 | vic20gmr | caps lock |
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| 16:22.19 | Nepherius | ok i`ll give that a try |
| 16:22.55 | vic20gmr | since im here, will the ppc debian work on a g3/300mhz with only 32mb of ram? |
| 16:24.03 | nimred | ? |
| 16:24.06 | Gijs | http://pastebin.com/QYUhkR5Y line 38: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 16:24.06 | Gijs | something is blocking connection to those ips on this port |
| 16:24.49 | stew | Gijs: how can you tell that something is blocking it instead of just no server listening? |
| 16:24.58 | jordanm | Gijs: use nmap to determine if that is the case. assuming you have already verified it is listening |
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| 16:25.49 | Nepherius | well i hope that doesnt go wrong or ..reinstall here i come ^^ |
| 16:26.10 | jelly | vic20gmr: 32MB is too little for the main packaging tools like dpkg and apt to work sensibly |
| 16:26.12 | vic20gmr | is this the wrong place for my ppc/debian question |
| 16:26.16 | Gijs | http://pastebin.com/B8FMXPtK |
| 16:26.20 | tharkun | Gijs: allready told you before that you need to investigate how dns works to pinpoint what is wrong with your server |
| 16:26.58 | stew | Gijs: that output is a tcp scan of the host? |
| 16:26.58 | nimred | ok jordanm i will try it. seems to be a good idea |
| 16:27.00 | vic20gmr | jelly wut is the min ram for it to run properly |
| 16:27.02 | stew | Gijs: or what? |
| 16:27.15 | Gijs | it is nmap |
| 16:27.19 | stew | Gijs: but your dig command uses udb not tcp |
| 16:27.19 | Gijs | nmap my-ip |
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| 16:27.36 | tharkun | stew: itym udp :D |
| 16:27.38 | Gijs | then how to i check it? |
| 16:27.39 | jordanm | vic20gmr: there is a sepific ppc channel, but I don't think you need to move there for that particular question |
| 16:27.41 | stew | Gijs: if its your own ip, its silly to nmap it, just look at what ports are open with netstat |
| 16:27.50 | korsakof | I'm trying to setup briding and nic bonding on my server. I have 2 nic, each connected to a different switch. I have created my bond0 interface using the active-backup mode. That config works, I can connect the server even if I "down" one nic or the other... Then I create the bridge on bond0. When the veth tries to download stuff from the net, both bond0 and veth connection are lost. Cannot ping them, I need to reboot the server... Any idea? |
| 16:27.52 | stew | yes, i meant udp not udb |
| 16:28.21 | jelly | vic20gmr: I'd say 128MB not to get too much swapping. |
| 16:28.31 | nimred | Gijs would you do so ? i would netter ignore it... |
| 16:28.34 | BlueG | anyone have a suggestion on the easiest way to get pidgin with VV on lenny? Or would I be better off waiting for squeeze? |
| 16:28.42 | Gijs | ignore what? |
| 16:28.55 | jordanm | BlueG: VV? |
| 16:29.16 | nimred | jordanm yes |
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| 16:29.38 | stew | BlueG: the same version of pidgin that is in squeeze is available from lenny-backports |
| 16:29.49 | jelly | ,versions pidgin |
| 16:29.51 | judd | Package pidgin on i386 -- etch-backports: 2.4.3-4lenny5~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny7; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny7; lenny-backports: 2.7.3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.7.3-1; sid: 2.7.3-2 |
| 16:30.15 | Gijs | Please can anybody help me? |
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| 16:30.27 | stew | Gijs: you can run commands on the server in question? |
| 16:30.27 | vic20gmr | jelly thx |
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| 16:30.30 | nimred | Gijs no |
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| 16:30.42 | nimred | vic20gmr NP |
| 16:30.52 | Gijs | stew yes i can run commands on the server |
| 16:31.00 | stew | Gijs: show us the output of "netstat -plntu" |
| 16:31.04 | nimred | vic20gmr have a good whisky |
| 16:31.32 | jelly | nimred: stop that please, if you don't have a Debian question or there is no answers, keep quiet instead |
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| 16:32.19 | stew | Gijs: or "netstat -plntu | grep :53" if you want to limit it to just dns related stuff |
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| 16:32.52 | nimred | jelly i also asked my question and am just waitinf for an answer :P |
| 16:33.08 | jelly | nimred: wait quietly |
| 16:33.09 | Gijs | http://pastebin.com/1E8xCGfa |
| 16:33.20 | stew | nimred: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nouveau |
| 16:33.23 | nimred | this is the proof you don't read what other people write... jelly |
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| 16:33.58 | stew | Gijs: the daemon is only listening to 127.0.0.1, so only localhost can talk to it |
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| 16:34.04 | Gijs | :| |
| 16:34.08 | BlueG | stew: but is it built with vv support? I think that is what I have installed, it's a 2.6 series, but it's built without VV support. |
| 16:34.20 | Gijs | and how do i change this? |
| 16:34.22 | stew | BlueG: i don't know what that is, sorry |
| 16:34.35 | BlueG | stew: voice and video |
| 16:35.10 | nimred | is 5.0 lenny ? |
| 16:35.15 | stew | nimred: yes |
| 16:36.46 | stew | Gijs: does "grep -r listen /etc/bind" return results with 127.0.0.1 ? |
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| 16:37.08 | stew | i'm not sure if bind asks this as a debconf question these days |
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| 16:37.15 | korsakof | no hints for me? |
| 16:37.22 | Gijs | wtf |
| 16:37.41 | Gijs | this /etc/bind/named.conf.options: listen-on-v6 { ::1; }; |
| 16:37.45 | nimred | so nouveau driver is not available on lenny |
| 16:37.48 | stew | Gijs: that's expected |
| 16:37.49 | Gijs | and this: /etc/bind/named.conf.options: listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; |
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| 16:37.55 | Gijs | nothing more |
| 16:37.57 | tharkun | Gijs: comment that line |
| 16:38.04 | Gijs | wich? |
| 16:38.06 | stew | Gijs: yeah, so get rid of the second match and restart bind |
| 16:38.06 | Gijs | the second? |
| 16:38.13 | tharkun | listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; |
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| 16:38.29 | jhutchins_lt | korsakof: Sounds like your running a VM system. It might be helpful to know what virtualization you were using. |
| 16:38.44 | korsakof | jhutchins_lt: proxmox ve |
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| 16:38.45 | BlueG | Has anyone been using pidgin for voice or video chat? If so, how did you get it working? |
| 16:38.48 | korsakof | version 1.6 |
| 16:38.52 | Gijs | wow it worked |
| 16:38.54 | Gijs | thanks! |
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| 16:39.18 | scx | hello |
| 16:39.25 | tharkun | Gijs: remember now you are an open dns server to the world |
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| 16:39.53 | scx | where i can download Debian, which just works? |
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| 16:40.01 | nimred | i neither cannot find opera |
| 16:40.05 | stew | scx: go to http://debian.org and click on getting debian |
| 16:40.16 | stew | nimred: http://opera.com |
| 16:40.24 | jhutchins_lt | !tell nimred about opera |
| 16:40.32 | scx | i tried Debian testing 13.09 and 20.09 - instalation fail in graphic mode and text mode |
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| 16:40.52 | Gijs | tharkun is that bad? |
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| 16:41.04 | jhutchins_lt | scx: Why are you trying testing? |
| 16:41.07 | scx | i tried install Debian stable with encrypted LVM - fail |
| 16:41.18 | stew | scx: the testing installer is currently classified as "alpha", install stable if you want something thats more likely to work |
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| 16:41.31 | scx | stew: i tried stable too |
| 16:41.54 | stew | scx: for us to help you, we need more details than just "fail" |
| 16:41.55 | tharkun | Gijs: research a little on dns poisoning and misuse of dns servers |
| 16:42.03 | Gijs | ... |
| 16:42.09 | tharkun | yes it is bad |
| 16:42.27 | jhutchins_lt | Gijs: You will find out that it's not something you really need to worry about though. |
| 16:42.54 | scx | stew: ok, i tried guided partitioning |
| 16:43.18 | stew | tharkun: why is it bad? |
| 16:43.19 | jhutchins_lt | scx: What installation guide did you follow? |
| 16:43.22 | Gijs | it is better if i change the listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; to listen-on { server-ip; }; |
| 16:43.23 | Gijs | ? |
| 16:43.32 | scx | jhutchins_lt: encrypted LVM |
| 16:43.33 | stew | Gijs: no, its no difference |
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| 16:43.41 | Gijs | ok |
| 16:43.56 | stew | Gijs: he's warning you that although there are not currently known remote vulnerabilities in bind, there might be unknown ones |
| 16:43.59 | stew | i guess |
| 16:44.10 | jhutchins_lt | Gijs: No, listening on the public IP will just make the resolver available to other hosts. Listening only on loopback means only the server can access the resolver. |
| 16:44.53 | jhutchins_lt | Gijs: None of this makes the resolver vulnerable to remote updates which have potential vulnerabilities. |
| 16:44.55 | stew | and his desire is for it to be on the public ip, since its listed as authoritative |
| 16:44.55 | scx | jhutchins_lt: i get only message, than install fail |
| 16:45.14 | jhutchins_lt | Gijs: Still, it's best to be aware of the potential problems with any service you run. |
| 16:45.28 | jhutchins_lt | (If only so that people can't scare you with boogeymen.) |
| 16:45.41 | tharkun | stew: also if the ip becomes known to have a free dns service it will get abused. (Don't ask me how i found about it) |
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| 16:46.07 | tharkun | Gijs: on #bind There is a message on how you can avoid that problem |
| 16:46.08 | jhutchins_lt | tharkun: 127.0.0.1 is not a routable address. |
| 16:46.11 | mmestnik | Hello, I'm looking for some documentation to put in my README file about using Debian for the first time. |
| 16:46.12 | stew | Gijs: ok, so now he's warning you that you shouldn't allow recursive lookups if it is public, which is decent advice |
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| 16:46.29 | mmestnik | One issue particularity I'm wanting to cover is the /usr/share/doc folder, http://localhost/doc, ect. |
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| 16:46.42 | mmestnik | Is there a document that explains this or would I have to write it? |
| 16:46.59 | stew | mmestnik: the debian reference? |
| 16:47.01 | tharkun | jhutchins_lt: That was the original setup, no it is bound to his local address and it seems it is routed to his public address also |
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| 16:47.14 | tharkun | stew: thx for translating from my broken English :D |
| 16:47.39 | stew | Gijs: http://www.netadmintools.com/art234.html |
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| 16:48.50 | mmestnik | stew: Specificly what part? |
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| 16:50.42 | stew | mmestnik: i don't know. i don't know if it's covered there at all. its the document i can think of which is most likely to cover this information from a users perspective |
| 16:51.47 | tharkun | stew: there is this view statement on bind 9 that handles the problem of recursion and handling information of local networks |
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| 16:53.22 | stew | yes, which i use to give local machine local addresses, while giving the rest of the world public addresses |
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| 16:58.02 | mmestnik | debian policy 11.5.2 |
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| 16:58.21 | mmestnik | Aww man, for my project it needs to be accessible from the host OS. So I just removed the access restriction... I pray that there are not any problems making this open, like packages putting scripts or something here. |
| 16:59.09 | jhutchins_lt | mmestnik: Don't pray, read. |
| 16:59.34 | jordanm | !tell mmestnik about cross-post |
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| 17:00.19 | et-lab | hi guys. I have a debian package that installs some data on /opt/ with only read permissions for the user. I need to change the package so that the user has read/write permissions. Any suggestion on the best way to do this? |
| 17:01.25 | stew | et-lab: these files are owned by whom? |
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| 17:01.53 | et-lab | stew, root I believe |
| 17:02.00 | jordanm | et-lab: mozilla update manager reasons? |
| 17:02.06 | stew | et-lab: and you need them writable by one particular user? |
| 17:02.23 | stew | et-lab: or perhaps by some group? |
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| 17:02.50 | et-lab | stew, well I need them writable for the user that installs the package |
| 17:03.38 | et-lab | jordanm, no no, I'm trying to make a functional deb package to distribute PSPICE for some friends |
| 17:03.45 | stew | et-lab: uhh, do you have non-root users with the ability to write into /var/lib/dpkg/info? |
| 17:03.56 | jordanm | deb packages should not install /opt |
| 17:04.09 | stew | not ones that are trying to adhere to policy |
| 17:04.25 | stew | but there isn't otherwise a technical limitation |
| 17:04.55 | stew | et-lab: having a non-root user with the ability to install a random package sounds like insanity |
| 17:05.11 | jordanm | stew: if his package is the only thing installed in /opt, and the user tries to to remove that package, won't dpkg try to remove the entire /opt tree? |
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| 17:05.40 | jordanm | thought that was the technical limitation |
| 17:05.43 | stew | jordanm: yes, the entire /opt tree in that case being a single empty directory |
| 17:06.07 | et-lab | stew, no, no write permission on /var/lib/dpkg/info |
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| 17:06.17 | stew | et-lab: then how is a non-root user going to install the package? |
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| 17:06.53 | stew | (there are lots of other places that would require root access in order to install a pacakge, this was just an example) |
| 17:06.56 | Blecj`cj | Is there a way to make it so that you don't need to press V every time you want to stop using cookies in Lynx, a text based browser? |
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| 17:07.09 | mmestnik | jordanm: Has combining these two channels even been considered? |
| 17:07.10 | stew | and if a regular user has write access to the /var/lib/dpkg/info directory, it is chaos |
| 17:07.50 | et-lab | stew, I'm not saying I want non-root users to _install_ the package, I'm saying that I need read/write permissions on the files the package installs. I need to change something on the deb package |
| 17:08.03 | jordanm | mmestnik: you really can't "combine" them, because the best you could do is tell everyone to GTFO and go to oftc. I would say not possible unless they were to +i this channel |
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| 17:08.23 | stew | et-lab: ok, so the root user is the user that needs write permission? not other users? |
| 17:08.38 | Blecj`cj | Is there a way to make it so that you don't need to press V every time you want to stop using cookies in Lynx, a text based browser? |
| 17:08.48 | themill | et-lab: can you explain why the user needs to be able to modify these files? Are they config files? a cache for information? |
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| 17:09.33 | et-lab | stew, no the other users need write permissions. Immediately my idea was to alter the install script and chmod the whole thing but it doesn't seem the smartest way... |
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| 17:09.59 | stew | ok so when i ask which users, i'm told the user that installs, and then confirm that root is the one installing... |
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| 17:10.51 | et-lab | themill, user specific info has to be stored in these files otherwise the program won't work |
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| 17:11.10 | themill | et-lab: shouldn't user-specific information be in the user's home directory? |
| 17:11.13 | stew | et-lab: you can't fix the program to use ~/.somehting instead of /opt? |
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| 17:11.20 | sjekkie | hi |
| 17:11.46 | et-lab | stew, you're right.... I'm sorry, I have zero expertise on this matter and I'm presenting a confusing situation |
| 17:11.48 | sjekkie | i'm trying to make my own livecd using the live-helper scripts |
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| 17:12.05 | et-lab | themill, indeed they should |
| 17:12.18 | et-lab | stew, nope, only the package |
| 17:12.31 | sjekkie | and i was wondering how i could add some software to it (not in a .deb format) |
| 17:12.54 | stew | sjekkie: you'll probably have a better chance of getting help in #debian-live on irc.debian.org |
| 17:12.58 | themill | et-lab: you can't install things into that location though -- all you can do is get the program to look there for the user's settings. The default settings should be in /etc (or /usr/share/pacakgename, depending on how the program is to be configured) |
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| 17:13.40 | stew | et-lab: was that "nope" to mean "nope, i can't fix the program to look in a more correct location"? |
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| 17:13.55 | et-lab | stew, exactly |
| 17:14.02 | sjekkie | stew: thanks |
| 17:14.04 | et-lab | the program is "as is" |
| 17:14.23 | et-lab | what about my idea of changing the install script, is this feasible? |
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| 17:16.13 | themill | et-lab: as you say, it's icky to have to stick the user's config in /opt rather than $HOME, but if you need to do this, then you probably should create a new group, and make the config directory group writable. Policy §10.9/§10.9.1 cover how you can go about doing this in your maintainer scripts. |
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| 17:16.34 | Guest70289 | Does anyone know if there are Are there any firewall solutions for Linux that doesn't rely on iptables?? |
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| 17:17.26 | mns | Guest70289: what do you mean "doesn't rely on iptables" ? |
| 17:17.34 | et-lab | themill, interesting. thx |
| 17:19.11 | Guest70289 | a firewall that doesn't use iptables.. I have a openvz vps running debian and i can't setup a iptable firewall with this virtualization. |
| 17:19.17 | babilen | Guest70289: You can use ipf |
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| 17:19.58 | jordanm | isn't that because it shares the most kernel and lacks sufficient privledges? |
| 17:19.59 | babilen | Guest70289: You will need a BSD kernel though, but Debian/kFreeBSD supports that |
| 17:20.07 | jordanm | I think you need to use a real VM solution for that |
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| 17:21.07 | Guest70289 | yes the vps dowsn't have sufficient privledges for the host kernel.. |
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| 17:24.19 | scx | Debian testing (13.09.2010), install fail after package manager config ("use network mirror") |
| 17:24.41 | scx | Debian testing (20.09.2010) - the same problem |
| 17:24.49 | jordanm | scx: can you provide more details? |
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| 17:24.58 | scx | Debian testing 13.09.2010 in text mode: |
| 17:24.59 | scx | http://wstaw.org/h/2fb90b691c1/ |
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| 17:25.24 | scx | jordanm: in graphic mode installator just freezy |
| 17:25.25 | joshb | deb: thx for auto-partitioning, sweet |
| 17:25.37 | kurtis | Hey guys, what docs/howto would I read if I want to create a custom init.d file to run fruppes (Video-streaming software) as a specific user on boot? |
| 17:25.41 | et-lab | well guys I'm off, thx for the help |
| 17:25.45 | scx | in text mode: see picture |
| 17:26.00 | jordanm | scx: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s04.html#submit-bug |
| 17:26.03 | stew | scx: check the text consoles on tty2 tty3 for possible errors |
| 17:26.23 | scx | it isnt possible to install lilo |
| 17:26.25 | jordanm | stew: he is the 2nd person today with the same problem. I suspect a real bug |
| 17:26.27 | stew | i say both because I cannot remember which is which |
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| 17:26.29 | stew | scx: no |
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| 17:30.49 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
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| 17:34.11 | asaleem_ | is there a way to redirect the output of watch to a file? |
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| 17:34.31 | kurtis | hey guys, what would cause my system to be slow at resolving host names when browsing the web? It doesn't appear to be a browser/internet connection issue. Maybe a DNS issue? |
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| 17:35.31 | AmberJ | kurtis: yea. maybe |
| 17:35.51 | AmberJ | Though there can be some other issues that could be causing this |
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| 17:36.11 | bronaugh_ | what's the status on ext4 tools for large filesystems (ie: where # blocks exceeds 2^32)? |
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| 17:36.15 | kurtis | AmberJ: hmm. Feel free to share some ideas :) My traceroute doesn't make it look like a DNS issue |
| 17:36.15 | JodaZ | how can i get a newer version of glibc on lenny ? it seems to have GLIBCXX_3.4.10, but this program needs GLIBCXX_3.4.11 |
| 17:36.23 | JodaZ | eh, nvm |
| 17:36.32 | JodaZ | how can i get a newer version of libstdc++ on lenny ? it seems to have GLIBCXX_3.4.10, but this program needs GLIBCXX_3.4.11 |
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| 17:36.43 | AmberJ | I suggest that you try using some public DNS service (e.g. OpenDNS, Google DNS etc) to make sure it's not a DNS issue, kurtis |
| 17:36.57 | kurtis | AmberJ: That's a good idea. I'll give that a try first. Thanks |
| 17:37.08 | AmberJ | kurtis: I'm not an a expert on this. Maybe folks at #networking might help. |
| 17:37.13 | stew | kurtis: test name resolution on the command line first, with perhaps "host hostname" or "getent hosts hostname" |
| 17:37.50 | kurtis | stew: When I do 'host google.com' it works but there's a seemingly-long delay |
| 17:37.54 | stew | JodaZ: i'd recommend recompiling the program against your glibc6 instead |
| 17:38.03 | JodaZ | stew, the program is not open source |
| 17:38.51 | kurtis | JodaZ: If the version you need is in squeeze, you could always upgrade. Or just add 'test' to your repositories but that can complicate things |
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| 17:39.07 | JodaZ | kurtis, i was thinking of that |
| 17:39.38 | JodaZ | kurtis, where can i download the .deb manually ? i am thinking of just putting the .so in the dir with the program |
| 17:39.42 | stew | JodaZ: no, you don't want to mix stable and testing, you want your whole system to be one or the other |
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| 17:40.44 | JodaZ | stew, yes, i was thinking of upgrading, but extracting a .so into the dir where the program resides is worth a shot and won't influence other programs |
| 17:41.09 | drokmed | jurtis: use dig to test your dns responses, try dig yahoo.com for example |
| 17:41.16 | drokmed | *kurtis: |
| 17:41.24 | akfaew | how can i remove leftover config files? packages marked as: "rc" |
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| 17:42.18 | kurtis | drokmed: hmm, I don't have dig installed nor do I see it as an option. Do you know what the package name is by any chance? |
| 17:42.25 | babilen | JodaZ: Just download the package from http://packages.debian.org and unpack it with "dpkg -x" |
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| 17:43.04 | stew | kurtis: its going to do the same thig that the host command already did |
| 17:43.20 | stew | kurtis: is the nameserver you are using in /etc/resolv.conf local? where did it come from? |
| 17:43.21 | babilen | akfaew: "aptitude purge ~c" should do the trick -- refer to http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html for more search terms |
| 17:43.44 | kurtis | stew: Umm I believe it was assigned through DHCP, and it would be my ISP's nameserver (Time Warner Roadrunner) |
| 17:43.45 | JodaZ | it doesn't seem to show the version correctly |
| 17:43.56 | babilen | JodaZ: "it" ? |
| 17:44.23 | JodaZ | libstdc++6 4.3.2-1.1 is whats the package version, but the real version of it is 3.4.10 |
| 17:44.43 | akfaew | babilen: thanks |
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| 17:49.08 | drokmed | dig tells you which dns server responded to your request, and how long it took |
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| 17:50.18 | kurtis | drokmed: sweet. I'd like to use it but I can't find it as a package. Any suggestions on what it might be called in the repository? |
| 17:50.31 | sobczyk | anyone here managed to configure redmine from package on lighttpd? |
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| 17:52.08 | stew | kurtis: dnsutils |
| 17:53.06 | drokmed | is it dnsutils? i don't recall which one |
| 17:53.32 | kurtis | stew: thanks |
| 17:55.15 | kurtis | Yep, it's in dnsutils |
| 17:55.57 | kurtis | It says the query time was only 17ms ... but the delay feels much longer than that |
| 17:56.05 | drokmed | cool just found it, hmm, it must've installed when i installed dnsmasq on my firewall |
| 17:56.51 | stew | kurtis: right, that's the query time to the server that eventually answered, you also made other queries to find out what server to query |
| 17:56.51 | drokmed | that does sound odd |
| 17:57.13 | stew | actually maybe i'm wrong there |
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| 17:57.42 | kurtis | stew: Yeah I'm not really sure how to read it. But it appears the Query Time is to my DNS (judging by the IP address anyways) |
| 17:58.06 | stew | kurtis: what does "grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf" return? |
| 17:58.30 | kurtis | files dns |
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| 17:59.51 | stew | kurtis: if you do "dig +tcp whatever" instead of just "dig whatever" is it much different? |
| 18:00.17 | drokmed | kurtis: here's a test, use dig yahoo.com, then issue the same command again... the 2nd time should be instant ie 1ms |
| 18:00.24 | kurtis | it just hangs as if it's waiting for a command :) |
| 18:00.51 | kurtis | drokmed: Yeah it's definitely not caching the IPs. I get the same results both times |
| 18:01.11 | drokmed | ouch, sounds like the dns server has problems, use a different dns server |
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| 18:01.29 | kurtis | ahh okay. I'll do that. You guys mentioned opendns and google dns. Are they both pretty good? |
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| 18:01.51 | d3c | how may I only log STDERR from cron? |
| 18:02.01 | drokmed | i hear opendns is good, i run my own, and my upstream are good, so i haven't tried 'em |
| 18:02.31 | stew | d3c: "yourcommand > /dev/null" will throw away STDOUT |
| 18:02.43 | kurtis | cool I'll give opendns a try. Thanks stew and drokmed for all the help |
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| 18:03.08 | d3c | stew: and all other output will be logged as I specify MAILTO? |
| 18:03.36 | stew | d3c: yes |
| 18:03.43 | d3c | stew: sounds good, thanks |
| 18:04.04 | kurtis | drokmed: Does OpenDNS do some kind of advertising when you use them? I noticed the paid plan mentions "No Advertisements" |
| 18:04.11 | babilen | kurtis: http://theos.in/windows-xp/free-fast-public-dns-server-list/ â lists a bunch of free/open DNS servers. Google's servers are pretty fast, the 4.2.2.* ones are good as well |
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| 18:04.32 | kurtis | babilen: cool I'll check those out too. thanks |
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| 18:05.06 | d3c | stew: what if I wanted to pipe the STDERR? how would I do that? cmd --> cron_log |
| 18:05.15 | d3c | stew: not just email it |
| 18:05.56 | kurtis | If I change my resolv.conf file manually, will DHCP update it everytime I connect to my network? |
| 18:06.08 | drokmed | babilen: good info, thanks, bookmarked |
| 18:06.26 | drokmed | no, one sec |
| 18:07.01 | stew | d3c: "command 2>&1 >/dev/null | somecommand" says "throw away stdout, redirect stderr into stdout, pipe stdout into somecommand" |
| 18:07.03 | drokmed | edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 18:07.20 | drokmed | add line: prepend domain-name-servers x.x.x.x; |
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| 18:07.46 | drokmed | then restart that interface, ex: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
| 18:08.18 | kurtis | drokmed: awesome! Just to let you know, if you use one of these DNS's, it appears dnsadvantage has the quickest ping-time (from Ohio anyways) |
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| 18:08.51 | drokmed | kurtis: thanks, thats good to know |
| 18:09.08 | drokmed | try that dig dig again |
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| 18:09.24 | babilen | drokmed: you are welcome |
| 18:09.46 | administrator_ | hi everywone :) |
| 18:09.51 | drokmed | heyas |
| 18:10.05 | administrator_ | how is everywone? |
| 18:10.20 | drokmed | hungover :)~ |
| 18:10.50 | administrator_ | guess it's morning, or mid-day over there, huh? :P |
| 18:10.53 | kurtis | Well this is wierd! My query time doubled (to 31ms) but it ran instantly without a delay |
| 18:11.04 | drokmed | lol |
| 18:11.10 | drokmed | was it 0ms the 2nd time? |
| 18:11.23 | administrator_ | what is query time? :)) |
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| 18:11.37 | kurtis | drokmed: Nope, it varies between 32ms and 34ms |
| 18:11.39 | drokmed | admin: we're playing with dig |
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| 18:11.56 | drokmed | find a closer dns server |
| 18:12.05 | administrator_ | i dont even know what that is :P i will google the stuff :) im a noob :) |
| 18:12.06 | drokmed | or install your own, dnsmasq is nice and simple to use |
| 18:12.25 | kurtis | drokmed: Before it would report 17ms but it would take a couple of seconds to initiate the query or something in the background |
| 18:12.31 | drokmed | noobministrator: ahh kk |
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| 18:13.19 | kurtis | drokmed: I wonder if it is because it was hitting my router first? That's the way it was laid out in resolv.conf. But now it goes straight to the DNS server before my router |
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| 18:13.41 | drokmed | the router doesn't have a dns server? |
| 18:14.02 | kurtis | drokmed: Nope. It's just a little 5-port ethernet/wifi router hooked to a Cable Modem |
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| 18:14.20 | kurtis | drokmed: I believe it hits the Router and the router forwards the request to the DNS server it's been assigned |
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| 18:14.41 | drokmed | nahh it's probably going direct, hence the delay the 2nd time |
| 18:14.49 | drokmed | find a closer dns server |
| 18:15.00 | drokmed | or replace that firewall... build your own |
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| 18:15.23 | stew | kurtis: and is your nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf the router? or the upstream dns? |
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| 18:15.59 | kurtis | stew: both. It lists the router twice (same IP) and then two more IPs upstream |
| 18:16.09 | drokmed | ouch |
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| 18:16.20 | stew | kurtis: and if you get rid of the router ips and just use the upstream ips, does everything get better? |
| 18:16.38 | kurtis | stew: How would I get rid of the router ips? Just manually edit resolv.conf? |
| 18:16.43 | drokmed | yeah |
| 18:16.45 | stew | kurtis: for now, yes |
| 18:16.56 | kurtis | do i have to restart my network connection again when I do it? |
| 18:17.10 | drokmed | you should double check the /etc/dhcp/dhclientconf and remove any references to the router as the dns server |
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| 18:17.45 | peterrooney | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:18.34 | peterrooney | sorry, dhclient.conf has an option for prepending a particular name server in resolv.conf |
| 18:18.47 | drokmed | peterrooney: yup, we already added the prepend line |
| 18:19.16 | kurtis | awesome. I just prepended my ISP's DNS Servers and it's working perfectly now. Hopefully they don't change them :) |
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| 18:19.46 | kurtis | I'm back down to 18-23ms query time but it works instantly |
| 18:19.59 | drokmed | it should be fetching your isp's dns servers automatically |
| 18:20.35 | stew | kurtis: so you should see if your router can be configured to just pass that on instead of trying to force itself on you |
| 18:20.37 | kurtis | drokmed: It does, but I had to manually add them in as prepended |
| 18:21.02 | kurtis | stew: Yeah I'll look into that. I'm not sure if there's an optino for that though. And I didn't have this problem before I upgraded to Squeeze (afaik) |
| 18:21.34 | drokmed | i replaced our firewall box with a debian firewall, works awesome |
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| 18:22.22 | drokmed | i'm updating the how-to to squeeze, it's still draft, about 60 pages so far, trying to finish before squeeze goes stable |
| 18:22.28 | kurtis | drokmed: I Definitely would if I could. But it's not my house and the way the wiring is laid out at the moment, I don't think they would appreciate a desktop computer as the gateway |
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| 18:22.43 | kurtis | drokmed: Nice. Which how-to are you working on? |
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| 18:23.34 | drokmed | it's a squeeze implementation of shorewall, dnsmasq, squid, dansguardian, webmin, psad, fwsnort, lots of other stuff, i've been maintaining it for a few years now |
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| 18:23.53 | d3c | stew: what if I just want to apply STDERR to a log file? command 2>&1 > log_file ? |
| 18:23.56 | kurtis | stew: Yeah, the only option is to automatically fetch the DNS from my ISP or set it manually. But nothing more advanced than that |
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| 18:24.06 | drokmed | i've updated it to squeeze, still making some fixes though from etch and lenny |
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| 18:24.15 | kurtis | drokmed: ahh okay, that's pretty cool |
| 18:24.16 | bronaugh_ | ok, ext4 and filesystems with > 2^32 blocks -- what is the state of the tools? |
| 18:24.27 | kurtis | drokmed: Thanks for contributing to the community :) |
| 18:24.40 | drokmed | :) |
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| 18:25.24 | drokmed | u can have a copy if ya like, i'm tired of re-reading it, could use some fresh eyes on it |
| 18:26.16 | kurtis | drokmed: Sure I'll take a look at it. |
| 18:26.27 | drokmed | kk one sec |
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| 18:27.41 | kurtis | Hmm, let's try that again. I'm not sure what happened |
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| 18:28.24 | kurtis | Wierd |
| 18:28.37 | drokmed | prolly my irc client |
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| 18:29.47 | helo | nice trojan injection technique! |
| 18:30.01 | kurtis | trojan man |
| 18:30.21 | omry | is there a new debian kernel for the recent local root exploit (32bit emulation layer bug in 64bit kernels - http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-Linux-kernel-provides-root-rights-Update-1081317.html) ? |
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| 18:31.29 | abrotman | omry: security.debian.org has all the DSAs .. look through them as you wish |
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| 18:32.26 | stew | omry: http://security-tracker.debian.org/CVE-2010-3081 |
| 18:32.58 | b0nghitter | in htop, what does a red "3h" in the TIME+ column mean? anything i need to worry about? |
| 18:33.07 | drokmed | i brought the website back up, keep the firewall how-to here: http://www.abazaba.org |
| 18:33.17 | omry | stew, abrotman - thanks |
| 18:33.19 | kurtis | drokmed: sweet I'll check it out |
| 18:33.29 | drokmed | thanks i could use the feedback |
| 18:33.33 | omry | b0nghitter, time your process is alive or something |
| 18:33.54 | drokmed | oops dont have the latest on it LOL |
| 18:33.58 | abrotman | notes it's amusing that 'squeeze/security' is affected |
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| 18:36.12 | omry | abrotman, interestingly enough - the exploit does not work on 2.6.30-2-amd64 |
| 18:36.31 | abrotman | omry: they said that the patch was applied and later removed .. who konws |
| 18:36.34 | omry | but does work on 2.6.32-24-generic (ubuntu). |
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| 18:37.07 | omry | yeah. I just ran the exploit on my server, looks like it's immune for some reason (it's running squeeze) |
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| 18:38.01 | drokmed | omry: i read they fixed it (again) in squeeze |
| 18:38.39 | kurtis | well I'm off guys. Thanks for everything |
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| 18:38.47 | b0nghitter | what bout "2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Sep 16" |
| 18:38.49 | drokmed | c'yas |
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| 18:38.54 | abrotman | omry: that kernel on squeeze would be a risk for other things that have been fixed |
| 18:39.00 | b0nghitter | on lenny-security |
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| 18:39.29 | b0nghitter | i dont see the amd64 one in the fixed list |
| 18:39.58 | omry | drokmed, I didn't upgrade the kernel there recently.. dunno. |
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| 18:49.00 | Nepherius | anyone having problems with torrent clients? |
| 18:49.34 | bronaugh_ | Nepherius: yeah they're never fast enough. |
| 18:49.41 | bronaugh_ | even when they saturate my connection. |
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| 18:50.59 | Nepherius | does it takes the torrent ~5 min to start the dl ?:) |
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| 18:51.45 | bronaugh_ | uh turn on dht |
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| 18:52.12 | Nepherius | its on |
| 18:52.37 | bronaugh_ | then it's unlikely to be a problem with the client. |
| 18:52.53 | Nepherius | on transmission it just says "not available" and on deluge it stays like 5 min or more at "Connecting" |
| 18:53.47 | bronaugh_ | what OS are these clients running on? |
| 18:53.54 | abrotman | Nepherius: maybe your ISP doesn't want you to use torrents? |
| 18:54.10 | abrotman | Nepherius: which version of transmission are oyu using? |
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| 18:54.30 | Nepherius | debian and downloading works fine on other OS :) |
| 18:54.38 | doit | if I want to install the newest version of vlc in debian, is it better to download the package from the debian site directly, or add sid to my sources.list and apt-get the new vlc? and if I use sid for this, will it upset anything else on my system? |
| 18:54.46 | Nepherius | i dont use it , i use deluge |
| 18:54.46 | abrotman | Nepherius: which version of transmission do you have? |
| 18:54.53 | abrotman | you just said it gives an error |
| 18:54.57 | Nepherius | i`ll check |
| 18:55.01 | abrotman | which version of deluge are you using? |
| 18:55.31 | Nepherius | 0.5.9.3 |
| 18:55.36 | Nepherius | deluge |
| 18:55.42 | abrotman | judd: versions deluge |
| 18:55.44 | judd | Package deluge on i386 -- sid: 1.2.3+git20100712.0b609bf-1; squeeze: 1.2.3+git20100712.0b609bf-1 |
| 18:55.48 | abrotman | that version isn't in debian ? |
| 18:55.52 | abrotman | judd: versions transmission |
| 18:55.54 | judd | Package transmission on i386 -- etch: 0.6.1.dfsg-1; lenny: 1.22-1+lenny2; lenny-security: 1.22-1+lenny2; lenny-backports: 1.77-1~bpo50+2; sid: 2.03-1; squeeze: 2.03-1 |
| 18:55.56 | Nepherius | 1.22 on transmission |
| 18:56.17 | bronaugh_ | so you're using crusty sw |
| 18:56.26 | abrotman | no, that's current in lenny |
| 18:56.39 | bronaugh_ | deluge != current |
| 18:56.50 | abrotman | i don't think that's the version he's really using .. |
| 18:56.51 | Nepherius | i just installed it .. |
| 18:56.53 | abrotman | from where? |
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| 18:57.00 | abrotman | if you're using lenny, there is no deluge in lenny |
| 18:57.44 | sweetpi | , deluge-torrent |
| 18:58.06 | abrotman | judd: versions deluge-torrent |
| 18:58.09 | judd | Package deluge-torrent on i386 -- etch-backports: 0.5.0-2~bpo.1; lenny: 0.5.9.3-1; sid: 1.2.3+git20100712.0b609bf-1; squeeze: 1.2.3+git20100712.0b609bf-1 |
| 18:58.28 | doit | can anyone tell me what to expect and what the best course of action would be? I only want the new vlc for debian, I don't need anything else from sid other than dependancies. |
| 18:59.10 | Nepherius | so how do i get a better version ? |
| 19:00.04 | abrotman | i doubt your version has much to do with it |
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| 19:00.41 | Nepherius | uhm ..what else could it be ?:( |
| 19:00.55 | b0nghitter | judd: version vlc |
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| 19:01.37 | abrotman | your network setup? |
| 19:02.15 | Nepherius | but it works fine if i change the OS |
| 19:02.34 | sweetpi | Nepherius: what version on the other os? |
| 19:02.35 | abrotman | which might also change your network setup ... |
| 19:03.11 | Nepherius | i dont have the same client on both |
| 19:03.40 | Nepherius | but since both transmission and deluge dont work here i assume it doesnt matter |
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| 19:05.31 | sweetpi | Nepherius: maybe check the network settings on the working and non-working clients. maybe your isp is messing with torrent traffic |
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| 19:13.07 | scx | stew: are you still here? |
| 19:13.36 | scx | stew: my bug report for Debian 5 and 6: |
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| 19:13.40 | scx | http://wklej.org/hash/38dbc66a278/txt/ |
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| 19:15.36 | scx | jordanm: http://wklej.org/hash/38dbc66a278/txt/ |
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| 19:19.49 | karlpinc | scx: You need to submit it using reportbug. |
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| 19:21.57 | fishcooker | /dev/sdc3 on /media/doc type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096) |
| 19:21.57 | fishcooker | /dev/sdc1 on /media/sbin type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096) |
| 19:21.57 | fishcooker | globus@earth:~$ ls -l /media/doc/ |
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| 19:23.18 | fishcooker | http://paste.debian.net/91310/ |
| 19:23.23 | sameerthahir | hello all, im using jigdo to create 5.0.6 images of debian , i have five 5.03 dvd images and the update dvd image of 5.0.6, While creating the first dvd,jigdo tells me that i needs to find 48 more files to complete the image, and cannot find it in any of the dvds, can anyone explain what exactly is happening, |
| 19:23.28 | fishcooker | sorry for flooding |
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| 19:25.23 | jelly-home | doit: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 19:25.37 | jelly-home | doit: I am not sure this will work out well for vlc. |
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| 19:26.08 | fishcooker | what happen with my /media/doc |
| 19:26.15 | fishcooker | it works on other box |
| 19:26.21 | do0ob | why VLC? smplayer with mplayer from debian multimedia would be better |
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| 19:27.18 | fishcooker | that's rite do0ob one vote for smplayer |
| 19:27.26 | jelly-home | do0ob: vlc is much more than a media player. |
| 19:28.00 | jordanm | scx: thanks for taking the time to report |
| 19:28.02 | fishcooker | what's else jelly-home... im curious |
| 19:28.15 | jelly-home | as well you should be! :-D |
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| 19:33.12 | tom719co | hello |
| 19:33.24 | tom719co | we are trying to reset root for debian 5.0 |
| 19:33.25 | jelly-home | fishcooker: streaming / broadcasting is one feature unusual for players |
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| 19:33.33 | tom719co | and we did the e to edit kernal on grub |
| 19:34.14 | tom719co | and added init=/bin/sh |
| 19:34.40 | tom719co | and then it gave an error when we hit b to boot |
| 19:34.40 | fishcooker | i can do streaming with mplayer... it works well....Hummm broadcasting, cool... ic jelly-home, would u plese http://paste.debian.net/91310/ |
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| 19:35.04 | tom719co | saying something about command not recognized |
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| 19:35.09 | tom719co | can anyone help? |
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| 19:36.21 | jelly-home | fishcooker: mplayer cannot provide a stream for other players to access. |
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| 19:40.41 | fishcooker | jelly-home, when i have one, why i need two... when i have mplayer why should i use other |
| 19:40.42 | fishcooker | :D |
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| 19:41.14 | nsadmin | tom719co: "something about" is not as useful as "it says exactly ..." |
| 19:41.51 | nsadmin | if it shows up in a nonenglish language, you can try LANG=C <command> |
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| 19:42.13 | nsadmin | then you should get the messages in english if they weren't already |
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| 19:45.33 | carandraug | hi! How can I use sudo to redirect the output of a command to a file where I'll need the permissions to edit the file? I want to do echo "RailsBaseURI /rails" > /etc/apache2/conf.d/tracks.conf but sudo doesn't work. I tried to enclose the whole command with single quotes but also didn't work |
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| 19:46.38 | jelly-home | carandraug: echo "RailsBaseURI /rails" | sudo tee /etc/apache2/conf.d/tracks.conf |
| 19:46.43 | fishcooker | jelly-home, it works "sudo mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sdc3 /mnt/3 -o value=utf-8" |
| 19:46.57 | jelly-home | fishcooker: sorry? |
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| 19:47.50 | jelly-home | carandraug: or sudo sh -c 'echo foo > bar' |
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| 19:48.08 | carandraug | jelly, thanks. I'd never heard about the tee command before. Looking into the man page now is what I was looking for |
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| 19:49.20 | jelly-home | carandraug: |sudo tee requires less quoting |
| 19:49.57 | GhostlyDeath | Is there a way to force Debian Squeeze to use specific video mode settings that are currently set all the time even if it may damage the monitor ignoring auto detection of settings? |
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| 19:50.34 | GhostlyDeath | The KVM my system is attached to does not forward the monitor settings and as such gets them wrong |
| 19:50.47 | themill | nsadmin: where exactly is tom719co going to but LANG=C? Please be specific. |
| 19:51.12 | fishcooker | my problem on the paste.debian ... solved |
| 19:51.15 | do0ob | GhostlyDeath: i think you can do it xorg.conf |
| 19:51.19 | fishcooker | jelly-home |
| 19:51.20 | fishcooker | :D |
| 19:52.05 | GhostlyDeath | do0ob: I've tried, if I were to set it to 1360x768, it would "choose" it, but it would really end up being 1280x768 |
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| 19:52.22 | carandraug | jelly-home, thanks. |sudo tee worked like a charm |
| 19:52.23 | GhostlyDeath | Thus the screen would be distorted |
| 19:52.24 | tom719co | i got it figured out |
| 19:52.38 | tom719co | init=/etc/bash worked instead of /etc/sh |
| 19:53.01 | jelly-home | tom719co: it's /bin/bash or /bin/sh, not /etc/bash |
| 19:53.30 | jelly-home | or /etc/ anything |
| 19:54.25 | themill | tom719co: using /bin/sh should work too. Does that symlink exist on your system? |
| 19:54.36 | GhostlyDeath | do0ob: Monitor size settings in xorg.conf don't seem to have any effect either |
| 19:55.31 | GhostlyDeath | do0ob: Even with the settings in there, xrandr still reported 0mmx0mm |
| 19:55.39 | do0ob | GhostlyDeath: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu |
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| 19:59.04 | tom719co | oops |
| 19:59.05 | tom719co | sorry |
| 19:59.17 | helo | 0mmx0mm do0ob |
| 19:59.20 | tom719co | you guys have some bot here that gives root password instructions.. |
| 19:59.33 | themill | tom719co: yes, /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 19:59.41 | tom719co | and it says add init=/bin/sh to the kernel line in grub |
| 19:59.44 | tom719co | well that didn't work |
| 19:59.48 | tom719co | i had to add /bin/bash instead |
| 19:59.53 | tom719co | i got it figured out |
| 19:59.53 | tom719co | thanks |
| 19:59.58 | themill | tom719co: tom719co: using /bin/sh should work too. Does that symlink exist on your system? |
| 20:00.16 | tom719co | not in it now.. i just needed to complete that task and move on for now |
| 20:00.27 | tom719co | but it didnt work |
| 20:00.28 | tom719co | bash did |
| 20:00.31 | tom719co | have a good one... |
| 20:00.32 | tom719co | THANKS |
| 20:00.35 | themill | tom719co: if /bin/sh doesn't exist, then you have more problems |
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| 20:00.51 | drokmed | weeee |
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| 20:00.53 | tom719co | system is up and running and working... we are going to move it to windows anyway |
| 20:00.55 | tom719co | later.. |
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| 20:04.10 | LV | what's the "magic" package name that brings in a complete X/GUI environment? gnome-session? gnome-debian? gnome-desktop? and/or kde equivs |
| 20:04.45 | LV | (or does such a thing exist?) |
| 20:05.14 | doit | jelly-home: I do not use dpkg very much, so will I use dpkg ssb -i {vlcpackage}? |
| 20:05.30 | jelly-home | LV: this will point to some options /msg dpkg install x |
| 20:05.35 | fake51 | hi, looking for a bit of help on exim (tried #exim which is close to dead) - I want to route email for specific domains to a (known) ip address. Anyone know how to go about it? I'm assuming the answer is "write a router" but something slightly more specific would be very appreciated |
| 20:05.44 | doit | jelly-home: and I would need to add the backports repository to my sources.list as well? |
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| 20:05.57 | jelly-home | doit: you will read what dpkg, the irc bot, tells you |
| 20:06.06 | LV | jelly-home: thanks! |
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| 20:06.46 | drokmed | fake51: I always did that in my dns definitions |
| 20:06.59 | doit | jelly-home: ok thanks |
| 20:07.06 | jelly-home | doit: /msg something is an irc command to type in your client |
| 20:07.30 | fake51 | drokmed, as in setting MX records? |
| 20:07.34 | drokmed | yup |
| 20:07.50 | jelly-home | doit: I don't think you're going to be able to build backported packages for vlc in a reasonable timeframe, though. |
| 20:07.57 | fake51 | was just thinking about that, sounds like a good idea |
| 20:07.59 | drokmed | that's alot easier than getting the mail server to forward |
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| 20:08.09 | jelly-home | doit: what do you need vlc for? |
| 20:09.34 | homie | is it possible to put debian on a ntfs partition ? |
| 20:09.42 | LV | and to access backports (my sources.list is updated), is it aptitude -t backports packagename? |
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| 20:15.12 | GhostlyDeath | do0ob: That worked out, the resolution is good for Xorg now, however the framebuffer size is incorrect still it's 1024x768 when it should be 1360x768. Outside the KVM when booted it is set to 1360x768 but when on the KVM when booted it becomes 1024x768. |
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| 20:17.43 | do0ob | GhostlyDeath: /etc/defaults/grub lets you set the screen resolution but i don't know if it'll force it |
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| 20:20.59 | GhostlyDeath | do0ob: Seems it had no effect at all |
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| 20:21.59 | factor | What is the command to hold a package , that I had compiled my self but dont want uninstall and reinstall it each time |
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| 20:23.57 | GhostlyDeath | I know you can hold packages in aptitude |
| 20:24.18 | LV | factor: do you mean you want to "pin" your package? |
| 20:24.56 | factor | yes |
| 20:24.56 | factor | LV I want dpkg to not know it exist in the dep list |
| 20:25.02 | factor | if I have any problem I can then compile it again |
| 20:25.05 | LV | (that was me trying to hand you the right keyword to search on :) |
| 20:25.42 | GhostlyDeath | do0ob: I don't use the framebuffer console much, but when I do it looks like water |
| 20:26.28 | factor | I have used it many times but have to find it each time |
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| 20:27.47 | jeremy_g | i edited interfaces file on debian etch running on a sun machine with no vga card |
| 20:28.10 | jeremy_g | restarted the networking daemon and the ssh is gone. I am not stupid. |
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| 20:28.49 | do0ob | jeremy_g: put a video card in and fix it |
| 20:29.44 | Swoe | serial console maybe ? |
| 20:30.40 | jeremy_g | Swoe:yup a friend of mine brought the serial and used hyper terminal with correct settings. he was getting gibrish. |
| 20:30.42 | LV | I always had to access my Sun box w/ a VT102, if ssh was down. |
| 20:30.53 | jeremy_g | i think sun requires specific null modem cables |
| 20:30.57 | LV | jeremy_g: 9600, n,8,1 ? |
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| 20:31.05 | jeremy_g | yup |
| 20:31.25 | LV | ick, that should work |
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| 20:32.21 | Swoe | jeremy_g: have u a keyboard ? |
| 20:32.22 | jeremy_g | how do i know the cable is correct |
| 20:32.33 | jeremy_g | Swoe:yeah offcourse. |
| 20:32.52 | jeremy_g | Swoe:are you thinking what i am thinking |
| 20:32.56 | Swoe | try it being blind |
| 20:32.58 | Swoe | :D |
| 20:33.19 | jeremy_g | :D |
| 20:33.21 | jeremy_g | exactly |
| 20:33.41 | drokmed | i haven't used a serial cable in years... got one in a box somewhere... |
| 20:33.47 | jeremy_g | i read over the web, that if the keyboard is connected it wont send anything to the serial port. |
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| 20:34.47 | jeremy_g | Swoe:u sure that if i put the keyboard in, try being blind will work as long as i log in correctly and ifconfig eth0 up |
| 20:35.13 | jeremy_g | with the correct ip |
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| 20:36.00 | jeremy_g | right? |
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| 20:39.41 | jeremy_g | Swoe:? |
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| 20:51.41 | scorphus | Network-Manager stopped working since last safe-upgrade, anyone experiencing similar problem? |
| 20:51.58 | Swoe | jeremy_g: dont uderstand the question |
| 20:52.37 | avocado | jeremy_g: you can try it, but don't expect great things |
| 20:53.08 | avocado | and is your sshd only listening on a certain address? |
| 20:53.37 | Swoe | what did u miss configured the sshd or the interfaces ? |
| 20:54.14 | avocado | sounds like he just changed /etc/network/interfaces and restarted networking and can no longer connect to ssh |
| 20:54.36 | avocado | i've done that before, but i've always been able to connect to ssh |
| 20:54.54 | avocado | so i can only imagine jeremy_g has ssh listening on a specific address |
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| 20:57.00 | Swoe | or the eth0 can't up |
| 20:57.38 | jeremy_g | Swoe:all i did was as follows |
| 20:57.40 | avocado | well he said he's not stupid, so i'm assuming he didn't mess up his network settings |
| 20:57.50 | avocado | :P |
| 20:57.57 | Swoe | ironik maybe :P |
| 20:57.58 | jeremy_g | I had a perfectly fine running system with eth0, eth5 and eth3 interfaces |
| 20:58.21 | jeremy_g | i was sshed into eth5 |
| 20:59.13 | jeremy_g | i edited the interfaces file and changed eth3 to some other ip |
| 20:59.23 | jeremy_g | etc/init.d/network restart |
| 20:59.30 | jeremy_g | i was then never able to ssh into my box |
| 20:59.42 | LV | possible u put a typo in interfaces. |
| 20:59.56 | avocado | he has no monitor so no way to tell |
| 21:00.06 | jeremy_g | i double checked it before cuz i knew something like this could happen. |
| 21:00.21 | jeremy_g | i used # to comment out lines |
| 21:00.40 | jeremy_g | but a good thing i did was to copy the old interfaces that worked into root |
| 21:00.51 | jeremy_g | so if i go blind with keyboard |
| 21:00.53 | jeremy_g | i can get it back |
| 21:00.59 | Swoe | did u have any restriction in ur ssh.conf or firewall or other ? |
| 21:01.00 | avocado | jeremy_g: then just copy it back |
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| 21:01.02 | jeremy_g | cp /root/interfaces.old /etc/.. |
| 21:01.13 | jeremy_g | etc/init.d/network restart |
| 21:01.33 | avocado | jeremy_g: do that and then fix your problem |
| 21:01.37 | avocado | when you can see |
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| 21:01.59 | jeremy_g | where exactly is interfaces residing under etc |
| 21:02.04 | jeremy_g | full path to interfaces please |
| 21:02.09 | avocado | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:02.27 | jeremy_g | and to an old netra t1 as i have, what kind of keyboard could be connected. |
| 21:02.31 | jeremy_g | it runs debian etch. |
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| 21:02.42 | avocado | :| |
| 21:02.43 | jeremy_g | and has a usb port for sure. will debian auto detect usb. |
| 21:02.47 | jeremy_g | keyboard |
| 21:03.09 | drokmed | yes |
| 21:03.11 | jeremy_g | its a sun machine - vga less and with screwed up pin config. |
| 21:03.16 | avocado | try it and hope |
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| 21:03.36 | drokmed | you might have to reboot |
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| 21:03.51 | jeremy_g | drokmed:i can do that. |
| 21:04.09 | jeremy_g | does debian often complain of ext3 recovey if rebooted twice |
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| 21:04.25 | drokmed | i've never had a problem w/ ext3 |
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| 21:04.34 | drokmed | i get power losses, never had a problem |
| 21:04.49 | drokmed | my ups died two years ago, too cheap to replace it lol |
| 21:05.37 | tarkaram | when I execute rsync to copy a folder recursively from a windows machine to my debian, rsync fails after creating a folder remotely. Its fails with the message that folder can not be written to |
| 21:06.22 | bint | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNZdxOxGqZU good night |
| 21:06.23 | tarkaram | and the remote location where I am creating the folder is tied to the user id that i am using to login |
| 21:06.49 | drokmed | from a windows pc, i always use winscp, a nice gui like explorer for remote connecting |
| 21:07.49 | drokmed | check this win app out: http://winscp.net/eng/index.php |
| 21:08.18 | tarkaram | drokmed: Thanks. But I am just wondering if I am executing rsync with incorrect parameters |
| 21:08.24 | jeremy_g | been using winscp when i was 5 years old |
| 21:08.38 | drokmed | yeah it's a classic |
| 21:09.01 | bint | i use putty |
| 21:09.03 | bint | i kinda like it more |
| 21:09.28 | jeremy_g | tarkaram:most likely you are. thats why i always use scp |
| 21:09.29 | drokmed | putty different, i use it too, more so actually |
| 21:09.32 | Swoe | jeremy_g: have u a DHCP on ur network ? |
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| 21:09.54 | jeremy_g | jeremy_g:dhcp for internal trusted net, own static ip for the dmz |
| 21:09.56 | obcecado | putty+puttygen+filezilla works pretty nice with some rsa key |
| 21:10.03 | bint | so u use winscp more for filetransfer and putty for commands |
| 21:10.15 | Swoe | and where is ur sun server |
| 21:10.43 | jeremy_g | i work with a medium sized european service provider that loves linux |
| 21:10.50 | bint | ovh? |
| 21:10.55 | jeremy_g | it even runs it on sun boxes :D |
| 21:11.16 | jeremy_g | is there a nice bittorrent client for linux |
| 21:11.20 | Swoe | u didn't have a phisical acces to the server ? |
| 21:11.24 | bint | deluge? |
| 21:11.37 | jeremy_g | for some i do. |
| 21:12.15 | obcecado | rtorrent |
| 21:12.22 | bint | rtorrent with web-u |
| 21:12.23 | bint | i |
| 21:12.39 | jeremy_g | i have physical access to the sun |
| 21:12.48 | jeremy_g | thanks bint |
| 21:12.55 | bint | for what? |
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| 21:14.24 | jeremy_g | web-u n rtorrent |
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| 21:14.56 | bint | well i dont know if rtorrent with web-ui is nice |
| 21:14.58 | bint | but i think so |
| 21:15.11 | Swoe | try to erase the input of the interfaces file abd then to rewrite 2 lines in it |
| 21:15.13 | bint | i'm tryin to install deluge on my server but didn't have time so far |
| 21:15.33 | Swoe | the lo interface and the eth0 |
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| 21:17.24 | bint | well i'm out smokin some dope |
| 21:17.31 | bint | gn8 old'debian |
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| 21:22.30 | tarkaram | jeremy_g: Thanks. Tried winscp and it serves my purpose. |
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| 21:24.06 | tarkaram | Is there a power savings mode for a desktop running debian ? I was wondering if there is an option for the desktop to go into a power savings mode when there is no activity and if I were to remote connect it should wake up |
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| 21:26.12 | Benny_ | So I just installed Debian from the netinst CD without the base/laptop/desktop package sets |
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| 21:26.24 | Benny_ | What packages do those install? |
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| 21:26.47 | drokmed | without base? don't think u can do that |
| 21:26.53 | Benny_ | (there is a much more complicated story behind *why* I installed it that way) |
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| 21:27.17 | drokmed | how much disk space did it take up? df |
| 21:27.20 | Benny_ | Well, let me put it this way, after it installed the core OS, updated, and brought up the dialog to ask me which sets I wanted, my computer powered off. |
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| 21:27.31 | drokmed | ohh doh! |
| 21:27.34 | drokmed | start over |
| 21:27.37 | Benny_ | I can't |
| 21:27.49 | Benny_ | I'm vastly oversimplifying, the short story is that I can't get it further than that point |
| 21:27.49 | drokmed | sure u can ... hit da reset button :) |
| 21:28.15 | drokmed | u said u updated, that means it connected to the internet, correct? |
| 21:28.17 | Benny_ | I believe that without CPU frequency scaling stuff, the system overheats and panics |
| 21:28.24 | drokmed | ahhh |
| 21:28.42 | Benny_ | And it miraculously survived that long somehow, and I'm trying to make the best of it :P |
| 21:28.46 | drokmed | open the case, and park a fan next to it, until u figure out temp issues |
| 21:28.52 | Benny_ | It's a laptop :( |
| 21:28.57 | drokmed | doh! |
| 21:29.06 | xuser | pour some water in it |
| 21:29.17 | drokmed | get one of those cool thinys that goes under it |
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| 21:29.49 | cockroach | hmn, auto-mounting stuff (and mounting from thunar) stopped working on my system (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=597474) - does anyone have an idea why that might be? looks like a problem somewhere between udev, hal and policykit but i'm hopelessly lost... |
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| 21:30.19 | Benny_ | I'd like to try to get this installed and working if at all possible, I've been computerless for a day now |
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| 21:31.37 | drokmed | Benny_: did the internal fan die? do you hear it working? feel any air being expelled? |
| 21:31.42 | Benny_ | Yep |
| 21:32.02 | Benny_ | It works perfectly once there's a frequency scaling governor running, even if I push it to 100% for a while |
| 21:32.06 | drokmed | go into your bios, and turn the fan on maximum setting |
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| 21:32.32 | Benny_ | The fan was on maximum |
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| 21:32.56 | Benny_ | Like I said, I'm not convinced it's overheating, it could be the CD-ROM drive |
| 21:33.18 | drokmed | debian too hardcore for your laptop, try a lighter weight distro like ubuntu |
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| 21:33.38 | Benny_ | Haha, Ubuntu, lightweight |
| 21:33.43 | cockroach | lol |
| 21:34.23 | Benny_ | (My CentOS DVD has the same problem, by the way) |
| 21:34.38 | drokmed | older laptop? open it and clean fan and around cpu |
| 21:34.50 | drokmed | makes a big difference if it's old |
| 21:34.56 | Benny_ | It's pretty new |
| 21:35.02 | Benny_ | Got it around 10 months ago |
| 21:35.06 | rolandpish | I'm in a squeeze box. Brasero can't create an ISO from a cdrom because it only supports toc and cue. How can I add ISO support to Brasero? |
| 21:35.07 | fignew | Benny_: to combat overheating you could also look at PHC (processor undervolting) |
| 21:35.31 | drokmed | yeah thats new, unless u work in a dust bowl |
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| 21:45.21 | Benny_ | Okay, I guess I'm up and running fine |
| 21:45.40 | Benny_ | All that was really broken was start-stop-daemon |
| 21:45.45 | Benny_ | I'm in X now |
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| 21:49.00 | Wazzzap | Watch my video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7crs3Ib6ZVI |
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| 21:50.33 | drokmed | Benny that's great! glad to hear it, thanks for letting us know |
| 21:50.44 | Moleboy | Hey guys, might I be able to get some assistance installing compiz? |
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| 21:51.05 | Moleboy | I followed the directions to no avail...just lots of failed messages |
| 21:51.20 | Moleboy | http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz---although, I am running on squeeze |
| 21:51.28 | amphi | Moleboy: try #compiz |
| 21:51.36 | joshb | hi, installed Lenny on Acer Aspire One D260-Pu netbook, looks really great, but X11 doesn't recognize Acer's wide screen (things are flattened). |
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| 21:52.06 | amphi | Moleboy: if you use a blobby ati driver, there may be some special fiddling required |
| 21:52.29 | amphi | joshb: does xrandr show the correct resolution? |
| 21:52.33 | joshb | I tried to find an answer but didn't; .. |
| 21:52.51 | Moleboy | what driver should I use amphi? |
| 21:52.55 | joshb | i'm going to run it :) |
| 21:53.08 | Moleboy | I can switch from the regular ati driver with no problem if you have a better recommendation x.x |
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| 21:53.31 | joshb | btw, even the onboard camera worked right away |
| 21:53.36 | amphi | Moleboy: if your card is fully supported by the open drivers, they are the ones to use |
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| 21:53.47 | Moleboy | How would I find out if it is? |
| 21:54.00 | amphi | Moleboy: the xorg ati driver, or fglrx or whatever it's called? |
| 21:54.23 | Moleboy | yea |
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| 21:54.36 | amphi | yea? |
| 21:54.44 | Moleboy | how would I find out if my card is supported though? |
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| 21:55.10 | Moleboy | ahhh |
| 21:55.12 | Moleboy | my card is supported |
| 21:56.00 | Moleboy | amphi, could you aid me in support of the installationo of this driver? |
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| 21:56.05 | amphi | Moleboy: #compiz will know what driver you must use with your card to get compiz up and limping along |
| 21:56.15 | joshb | amphi: no, screen is 1024x600, xrandr says '...,current 800x600,...' |
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| 21:57.22 | EchoEcho | Hello! I've got my "/etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf" configured correctly, and logwatch successfully sends email. Dumb question - how can I send an email with that system from the command line? What's the command? |
| 21:57.27 | Mikaze | Anyone know what /media/apt is for in Squeeze? |
| 21:57.31 | Moleboy | compiz is dead |
| 21:57.44 | EchoEcho | Wait, I had simply mistyped ssmtp, I'm stupid :P |
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| 21:59.56 | scx | hello |
| 22:00.07 | Mikaze | scx! |
| 22:00.23 | scx | is it possible to install Debian testing/unstable using only CD-1? |
| 22:00.36 | Mikaze | scx: Yes. Just did it. |
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| 22:01.15 | scx | Mikaze: ok, thx |
| 22:01.34 | joshb | text consoles are also widened btw |
| 22:01.57 | Mikaze | scx: Won't get much unless you use a mirror to download from tho, but you'll get the basic OS installed. |
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| 22:05.04 | Mikaze | You can send mail with the mail command from the CLI. Or mailx, which is the same command, or install mutt|alpine |
| 22:05.31 | Mikaze | uses mutt |
| 22:06.17 | drokmed | webmin has a nice email client for local accounts on that box |
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| 22:06.46 | Moleboy | Anyone up for helping me install a video driver? |
| 22:07.16 | Mikaze | Sorry. Am blind and don't use video drivers. |
| 22:07.46 | jhutchins_lt | Mikaze: If you've got mutt figured out it's fine, I prefer (al)pine. |
| 22:08.24 | joshb | xrandr --fb* doesn't seem to help, tried editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf Subsection ... Modes 1024x600 didn't work |
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| 22:08.31 | Mikaze | jhutchins_lt: I use mutt because it's less noisy. |
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| 22:08.40 | jhutchins_lt | Mikaze: understood. |
| 22:08.53 | Moleboy | Just need to install the x.org driver...or something |
| 22:09.17 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Moleboy about ati |
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| 22:14.12 | drokmed | pine still around? I used that back in the 80's |
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| 22:14.39 | avocado | i was 3 years old when the 80s ended |
| 22:15.16 | Benny_ | ... thank you for the image, avocado |
| 22:15.24 | Benny_ | I just realized I was -9 months when the 80s ended. |
| 22:15.57 | tharkun | avocado: what was the other email program running in the 80's ? |
| 22:16.07 | avocado | tharkun: AOL |
| 22:16.33 | tharkun | avocado: nope, there was another one wich also ran on vax computers, i just can't recall its name |
| 22:16.40 | avocado | mutt? |
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| 22:17.44 | tharkun | avocado: no, it was some kind of pine look alike. Then pine came along |
| 22:17.46 | drokmed | wow u make me sound ancient, i'm only 44, eye sight is going, but i'm still fully functional where it counts |
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| 22:18.09 | abou_7anash_009 | hi sed -i "s/word/replace/g" /someFile replaces all word and wordx and wordz and word* in somefile, how can I specifically only replace word |
| 22:18.57 | avocado | abou_7anash_009: what |
| 22:19.46 | avocado | tharkun: elm? |
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| 22:20.31 | petemc | abou_7anash_009: dont append g to the end |
| 22:20.43 | petemc | oh, wait |
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| 22:21.02 | Tramp | abou_7anash_009: stop crossposting stuff |
| 22:21.03 | abou_7anash_009 | petemc: I though g was to replace all occurances |
| 22:21.22 | abou_7anash_009 | Tramp: this is not a forum did not think that this is forbidden |
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| 22:21.47 | Tramp | abou_7anash_009: it's considered rude and bad netiquette on IRC just as well |
| 22:21.50 | avocado | abou_7anash_009: s/word/replace/g does not replace all word, wordx, wordz and word* |
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| 22:22.08 | Tramp | you just think your time is so much more valuable than everybody's else |
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| 22:22.50 | coax | hey, my server stopped resolving dns, even though resolv.conf is filled out with googles dns and my own.. everything was working fine and i havent been logged in to the server sinc |
| 22:22.58 | coax | anyone have an idea of what to look for |
| 22:23.18 | b11d` | firewall? |
| 22:23.26 | coax | nope no firewall |
| 22:23.27 | drokmed | dns server down? route to it down? |
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| 22:23.58 | coax | nah |
| 22:24.12 | drokmed | locally installed dns server? |
| 22:24.17 | drokmed | try: dig yahoo.com |
| 22:24.18 | b11d` | you can ping the dns servers? |
| 22:24.34 | coax | i had localhost all this time but since it stopped working for no reason i know i added googles dns |
| 22:24.41 | coax | but those do not seem to work either |
| 22:24.49 | b11d` | you can ping the dns servers? |
| 22:24.53 | drokmed | dhcp or static? |
| 22:24.58 | coax | yes |
| 22:25.00 | drokmed | you probably have a resolver issue |
| 22:25.04 | coax | i ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:25.17 | drokmed | dhcp or static? |
| 22:25.21 | coax | static with 4 eth0 aliases |
| 22:25.29 | drokmed | check /etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:25.30 | coax | but i never touched any of this |
| 22:25.34 | b11d` | you check your routing table? |
| 22:25.35 | coax | yeah its added there |
| 22:25.37 | b11d` | what about arp? |
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| 22:25.48 | coax | b11d` sec |
| 22:25.48 | drokmed | arp -a |
| 22:25.51 | drokmed | netstat -nr |
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| 22:28.02 | coax | drokmed what am i looking for on netstat -nr |
| 22:28.24 | coax | ill pastebin it sec |
| 22:28.42 | drokmed | gateway is set, on the correct interface |
| 22:28.51 | coax | http://pastebin.com/G9VgNkHx |
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| 22:29.07 | drokmed | try traceroute 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:29.52 | b11d` | i dunno about that routing table |
| 22:30.00 | b11d` | looks not right |
| 22:30.12 | b11d` | <-- probably wrong |
| 22:30.18 | coax | http://pastebin.com/BSxDnkgm |
| 22:30.35 | drokmed | yeah it's bonked |
| 22:30.36 | b11d` | well its clearly reverse resolving those IP's to hostnames |
| 22:30.43 | b11d` | so.. wtf.. |
| 22:30.52 | coax | i really dont understand this |
| 22:30.56 | b11d` | your hacked |
| 22:30.58 | b11d` | big time |
| 22:30.59 | b11d` | :) |
| 22:31.01 | coax | hacked? |
| 22:31.04 | drokmed | it's the 4 aliases |
| 22:31.04 | coax | why do you say that? |
| 22:31.08 | drokmed | get rid of all that stuff |
| 22:31.20 | b11d` | i say that to freak you out unnecessarily |
| 22:31.20 | coax | they never were a problem before |
| 22:31.29 | drokmed | hmm one sec |
| 22:31.33 | coax | this happened between yesterday and today and ive had it for 6 months |
| 22:31.41 | coax | i didnt even log in all day or night |
| 22:31.41 | b11d` | thats the way she goes |
| 22:31.50 | b11d` | i gotta go eat.. good luck coax! |
| 22:31.57 | coax | ok thanks b11d` |
| 22:32.05 | drokmed | check the cable :) |
| 22:32.16 | coax | drokmed heh |
| 22:32.16 | b11d` | reboot |
| 22:32.30 | coax | yeah ill try a reboot, even though its annoying |
| 22:33.25 | Moleboy | compiz frustrates me. |
| 22:33.29 | Moleboy | :-[ |
| 22:33.34 | coax | thanks for giving advice too drokmed |
| 22:33.59 | amphi | Moleboy: did you ask in #compiz? |
| 22:34.03 | Moleboy | yep |
| 22:34.17 | Moleboy | place is dead as a doorknob. |
| 22:34.45 | amphi | perhaps there's another channel |
| 22:34.47 | drokmed | has no use for compiz, don't need no eye candy |
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| 22:34.58 | Moleboy | hmm, indeed |
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| 22:35.31 | amphi | likes xmonad |
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| 22:37.20 | Moleboy | loves eyecandy =D |
| 22:37.44 | Moleboy | really really does indeed. And will get it to work! |
| 22:37.49 | coax | ok it works if i remove 127.0.0.1 from resolv.conf :P feels like a newbie mistake but im not an expert on this |
| 22:39.40 | drokmed | that makes sense, u said u used to run your own dns server, it it isn't running, that will cause big problems |
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| 22:40.26 | drokmed | i switched to dnsmasq as my local dns/dhcp server, it's incredibly simple to setup, very reliable, switched about 2 years ago |
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| 22:40.36 | bronaugh_ | ok, what the hell. |
| 22:40.44 | bronaugh_ | I tried to search debian's bts for ext4 in subject. |
| 22:41.10 | bronaugh_ | so I go to www.debian.org/bugs/, and in the box next to "include bugs", I type in ext4 |
| 22:41.13 | bronaugh_ | I scroll down, click submit. |
| 22:41.19 | bronaugh_ | "An error occurred. Error was: You have to choose something to select by " |
| 22:41.45 | bronaugh_ | so considering this doesn't seem to work, what's the best way to do thisL? |
| 22:42.04 | drokmed | hmm, you get a bug when reporting a bug... sounds well bugged! |
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| 22:42.11 | bronaugh_ | not reporting a bug. searching for bugs. |
| 22:42.45 | drokmed | i always search with google |
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| 22:43.06 | themill | bronaugh_: select != search |
| 22:43.36 | bronaugh_ | themill: ok, so how am I supposed to do this? |
| 22:43.54 | jhutchins_lt | bronaugh_: Pretty much every distro's BTS is a mess, and the search functions on them are VERY BAD, everywhere. |
| 22:43.59 | themill | bronaugh_: there's a nice header on that same page that says "Searching bug reports" |
| 22:44.08 | jhutchins_lt | bronaugh_: There are some that are a little better than Debian, and some that are even worse. |
| 22:44.16 | bronaugh_ | themill: ok, missed that. |
| 22:44.17 | bronaugh_ | thanks. |
| 22:44.21 | jhutchins_lt | themill: The search function is pretty terrible. |
| 22:44.40 | bronaugh_ | google does seem to index pretty well. |
| 22:44.45 | themill | jhutchins_lt: no it's pretty good actually. And you can always use site: with google |
| 22:45.21 | themill | the bts search is much smarter than google in that it actually understands bug states, dates, packages etc. |
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| 22:48.15 | coax | drokmed i would have to run dnsmasq and bind then? |
| 22:48.25 | coax | i also have to host about 76 domains |
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| 22:50.34 | nsadmin | coax: on one machine? |
| 22:50.49 | drokmed | no |
| 22:50.54 | nsadmin | wait nm, misread |
| 22:50.56 | drokmed | dnsmasq replaces bind |
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| 22:51.03 | coax | nsadmin 1 machine and 2 slaves |
| 22:51.08 | coax | drokmed ah |
| 22:51.09 | drokmed | dnsmasq offers dns and dhcp, replaces bind |
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| 22:51.31 | nsadmin | if you have domains, bind is probably as good as any |
| 22:51.35 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Part of it is that we need some triage of existing and obsolete bugs, stuff that applies to old versions of things and older releases. |
| 22:52.07 | themill | jhutchins_lt: there are many maintainers who will gladly accept such offers of help |
| 22:52.12 | nsadmin | are you sure you want to host them? |
| 22:52.19 | coax | i cant say id be all excited to port over all the domains and get all the stuff set up again |
| 22:52.28 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Bugzilla searches allways seem to pull up more unrelated bugs than what I'm searching for, but maybe it's just my bad search practices. |
| 22:52.30 | drokmed | 76 domains? I host 4 :) you host them all from one box? |
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| 22:52.52 | coax | only dns for most of them |
| 22:53.00 | coax | got about 5 active websites |
| 22:53.38 | nsadmin | you may or may not wish to host them yourself based on your patience and ability |
| 22:53.42 | drokmed | i got the impression you said your local dns server on that box was down, that would tell me all 76 are down, unless you have multiple dns servers, i must have misunderstood |
| 22:53.47 | jhutchins_lt | themill: I think I'm getting to the point where I could help too, but we do need an over-all plan/coordination. |
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| 22:53.59 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Guess it's time to subscribe to a maintainers' list. |
| 22:54.17 | drokmed | how many are internal vs public ip addresses? |
| 22:54.40 | coax | drokmed well, i always had recursion no; in my bind config before.. but now i removed it and it worked.. but i added googles dns and turned off recursion again |
| 22:54.41 | drokmed | if all internal, better stick with bind, if external, subscribe to a national service |
| 22:54.46 | themill | jhutchins_lt: not at all. Test out a bug, see if it still applies, close it if you can see that it's been fixed by a previous upstream release. Triaging/tagging activities need some coordination with the maintainers. |
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| 22:55.44 | drokmed | remove google dns :) |
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| 22:57.24 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Kinda need some sort of mass-mailing script that will go through and mail primary reporters "You reported this bug, but the version of the package is obsolete. Please confirm whether this bug is still valid with the current package". |
| 22:57.47 | nixbox | hi all, i am trying to compile a kernel (wireless-testing 2.6.35) using make-kpkg, the kernel seems to be compiling fine along with modules, but when deb packages have to be created i get an error saying "package linux-image-2.6.35-wl+ not in control info" |
| 22:58.15 | jhutchins_lt | I'll at least start doing that when I work with the system, maybe take some time to specific search-and-close. |
| 22:58.22 | coax | drokmed by national dns do you mean dnsmadeeasy etc? |
| 22:58.58 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 22:59.01 | lenswipe | i cant get JACK to start |
| 22:59.06 | lenswipe | can someone gimme a hand with it? |
| 22:59.26 | tharkun | avocado: yes elm. I had completely forgotten its name |
| 22:59.30 | lenswipe | i have a pastebin if you guys want |
| 22:59.37 | drokmed | coax i use dyndns.com to host our domains, i also tested godaddy, but can't stand their interface |
| 22:59.58 | lenswipe | Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/qWU8ueTZ |
| 23:00.08 | lenswipe | can someone help with that? |
| 23:00.33 | coax | drokmed ah.. yeah i already replaced local email with google apps.. maybe will move to some hosted dns |
| 23:01.16 | coax | some of my friends are all 'dont use any of that run it yourself' |
| 23:01.24 | coax | so hehe |
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| 23:02.17 | drokmed | yup, i don't trust google, i'd rather run it myself, or use something like dyndns, been using them for about 4 years now, never had one problem, very happy with them, fastest dns imho |
| 23:02.26 | lenswipe | anyone? |
| 23:02.37 | m0rTaL | so.. i have no mouse.. can I control the cursor with the arrows in X (fluxbox) |
| 23:02.38 | lenswipe | drokmed, ugh - dyndns |
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| 23:02.42 | lenswipe | cant stand them |
| 23:02.49 | lenswipe | they used to monkey with my A record |
| 23:02.52 | drokmed | lenswipe: what is jack? sorry, never heard of it, i don't know jack ^#$@ |
| 23:03.03 | lenswipe | drokmed, its an audio server for linux |
| 23:03.11 | drokmed | ahh sounds fun |
| 23:03.19 | themill | lenswipe: /msg dpkg list alsa users ; might give you an idea if something is currently hogging the device |
| 23:03.50 | drokmed | lenswipe: per dyndns, paid account? i never had a problem |
| 23:03.53 | Moleboy | exit |
| 23:03.54 | lenswipe | drokmed, oh yeah...when it works |
| 23:03.59 | lenswipe | drokmed, ....if it works |
| 23:04.03 | lenswipe | and no it wasnt a paid account |
| 23:04.04 | drokmed | lol |
| 23:04.07 | drokmed | ahh |
| 23:04.15 | lenswipe | i spose it wasnt my A record per se in that case |
| 23:04.17 | lenswipe | however |
| 23:04.22 | lenswipe | the record that pointed to my server |
| 23:04.27 | lenswipe | it would regularly go AWOL |
| 23:04.28 | drokmed | the ole mess with the A account to get some $$$ out of ya |
| 23:04.34 | lenswipe | yeah |
| 23:04.38 | lenswipe | or id find that my account had been deleted for no reason |
| 23:04.42 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 23:04.46 | lenswipe | and they used to bullshit me |
| 23:04.52 | drokmed | been 4 years, no problems here, very happy with 'em |
| 23:04.57 | lenswipe | drokmed, in the end i just thought **** them and moved to no-ip |
| 23:05.06 | drokmed | roger that HINT |
| 23:05.23 | lenswipe | is done with this line of conversation anyway |
| 23:05.38 | drokmed | good luck with jack |
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| 23:13.06 | lenswipe | drokmed, thanks |
| 23:13.08 | drokmed | hi michael! |
| 23:13.18 | drokmed | yeppers |
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| 23:16.14 | DonAlex | Hi Guys.. I know this is bound to have come up before.. but I am having problems finding concrete info |
| 23:16.33 | DonAlex | Why is the uk.debian.org mirror down? |
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| 23:17.00 | bronaugh_ | DonAlex: is the site down or is the archive gone? |
| 23:17.25 | drokmed | ping uk.debian.org |
| 23:17.25 | drokmed | ping: unknown host uk.debian.org |
| 23:17.36 | DonAlex | site is down.. times out to connect.. and seems to have been so for last 24 hours |
| 23:18.02 | DonAlex | Cannot initiate the connection to www.uk.debian.org:80 (2001:470:1f08:80b::2). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:470:1f08:80b::2 80] |
| 23:18.45 | tharkun | DonAlex: drokmed www.uk.debian.org is a cname to debian.hands.com |
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| 23:18.58 | tharkun | drokmed: ^^ |
| 23:19.18 | DonAlex | tharkun: any reason why it is offline then? |
| 23:19.37 | drokmed | tharkun: thanks, didn't know that |
| 23:20.00 | tharkun | DonAlex: Absolutely none |
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| 23:20.44 | DonAlex | Hmm... doesn't seem like the norm.. been 24 hours now at least.. there has to be others who have noticed? |
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| 23:20.50 | tharkun | drokmed: most of the www.$cc.debian.org are cnames to charitable people who offer debian support on their respective countries |
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| 23:22.26 | DonAlex | Not sure who to quiz about this really. |
| 23:22.46 | orak3l | will catalyst 10.10 http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/fglrx land also in debian? |
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| 23:23.35 | drokmed | DonAlex: i'd check the wiki, hopefully find the email of somebody close to that server, and email them |
| 23:24.35 | drokmed | whois uk.debian.org reports not found |
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| 23:25.44 | stew | whois hands.com |
| 23:26.01 | stew | but http://lists.debian.org/debian-www might be a better place |
| 23:28.35 | DonAlex | ok I will see what happens tomorrow. night night guys. |
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| 23:40.52 | lenswipe | so |
| 23:41.01 | lenswipe | is anyone able to help with JACK? |
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| 23:42.06 | themill | lenswipe: [00:02] <themill> lenswipe: /msg dpkg list alsa users ; might give you an idea if something is currently hogging the device |
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| 23:43.17 | drokmed | hears crickets chirpin' |
| 23:43.43 | tarkaram | Is there a power savings mode for a desktop running debian ? I was wondering if there is an option for the desktop to go into a power savings mode when there is no activity and if I were to remote connect it should wake up |
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| 23:46.08 | lenswipe | themill, ok...so you think that something is blocking my sound card? |
| 23:46.14 | lenswipe | ...you could be right, how do i stop it? |
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| 23:47.59 | bronaugh_ | lenswipe: run lsof |
| 23:48.06 | bronaugh_ | will tell you what has all files on system open. |
| 23:48.12 | bronaugh_ | grep it for pcm |
| 23:48.20 | lenswipe | yeah i have that info |
| 23:48.29 | lenswipe | i just dont know what im sposed to do with it |
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| 23:49.14 | bronaugh_ | uh; look at the process that's hogging it? |
| 23:49.32 | lenswipe | its the GNOME sound manager |
| 23:51.52 | bronaugh_ | okay... |
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| 23:52.35 | bronaugh_ | so configure it to use a JACK device |
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| 23:52.39 | bronaugh_ | then start JACK |
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