| 00:00.22 | streuner | Install a package from backports |
| 00:00.43 | SPF | yes with aptitude -t lenny-backports install wicd |
| 00:02.13 | SPF | 1) add backports in apt sources.list 2) apt-get update 3) aptitude -t lenny-backports install wicd 4) I get 89 new packages |
| 00:02.26 | SPF | that is on the instruction page |
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| 00:05.14 | streuner | sounds to rather strange |
| 00:05.17 | streuner | me* |
| 00:05.55 | SPF | yes, that's why I'm here |
| 00:05.55 | streuner | 89 packages only to install wicd |
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| 00:07.00 | SPF | http://pastebin.com/YhwTrvPX |
| 00:07.39 | SPF | x11-common ? |
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| 00:09.11 | streuner | SPF: How about to just use interfaces? |
| 00:09.38 | jaggz | anyone have a shell pastebin script? cat foo | pastebin |
| 00:10.04 | SPF | streuner: sounds great, is there a wiki page about it? |
| 00:10.28 | streuner | SPF: if you dont have serveral acounts to manage, interface is enough |
| 00:10.42 | streuner | SPF: its all described in wiki.debian.org/ |
| 00:11.11 | joshb | i just upgraded to squeeze but dhclient doesn't see network interface (no broadcast interfaces found), anyone want to tell me what to do ? |
| 00:11.20 | streuner | SPF: |
| 00:11.20 | streuner | <qq-> lenswipe, /msg dpkg noipv6 |
| 00:11.20 | streuner | <SPF> I followed the instructions on http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 00:11.47 | streuner | SPF: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 00:11.58 | streuner | sorry for the wrong paste |
| 00:12.31 | lenswipe | streuner, i saw it |
| 00:12.32 | lenswipe | :) |
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| 00:13.20 | streuner | SPF: if you dont use a strange NIC which uses there own config, interfaces is ok |
| 00:13.45 | jhutchins_lt | Note that there appear to be problems with some wifi setups in squeeze with networkmanager/wicd |
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| 00:18.36 | otak | jaggz: do you mean pastebinit ? |
| 00:18.51 | SPF | streuner: I already had wlan0 configured in interfaces, but with ifup wlan0 it doesn't connect to the wireless-essid I specified in /etc/network/interfaces -> http://pastebin.com/RMEZ95xz |
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| 00:20.46 | jaggz | yay |
| 00:21.18 | streuner | SPF: there is no passwort |
| 00:21.38 | streuner | SPF: also, do you have the switch enabled? |
| 00:22.02 | _stefanos_ | Goodnight everyone |
| 00:25.12 | SPF | streuner: I want to try without encryption first. What switch? |
| 00:25.33 | streuner | SPF: switch on a laptop in order to enable WLAN |
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| 00:25.45 | SPF | it is a usb device |
| 00:25.59 | streuner | uhm, USB? |
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| 00:26.07 | streuner | what kind of NIC is that? |
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| 00:26.30 | joshb | screen 1024x600 on Acer Aspire One D260-Pu was correctly detected by Squeeze (using startx, removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf) |
| 00:27.12 | SPF | streuner: http://pastebin.com/UTHSTXWA |
| 00:30.34 | k1ng | halo reach is gay :| |
| 00:31.25 | streuner | SPF: firmware is installed too? |
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| 00:32.30 | SPF | I don't know, when I saw it in iwconfig I thought it was already working |
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| 00:34.35 | SPF | it is loaded in lsmod as zd1211rw |
| 00:34.53 | streuner | tail -f /var/log/messages |
| 00:35.14 | streuner | (in order to see if its loads the firmware) |
| 00:35.19 | SPF | usb 1-1: firmware: requesting zd1211/zd1211b_ub |
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| 00:35.46 | streuner | Do you have firmware installed or not? |
| 00:36.03 | SPF | I guess not |
| 00:36.08 | streuner | hm |
| 00:36.48 | streuner | amset:/home/streuner# dpkg -l | grep firmware |
| 00:36.48 | streuner | ii firmware-linux-free 2.6.32-24 |
| 00:37.29 | SPF | should I install that? |
| 00:37.50 | streuner | sure, otherwise you need to search and install it by hand... |
| 00:39.35 | dvs | nonfree too, if you want |
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| 00:41.08 | fahad | hi, does anyone know how to install grub2 on a raid0 setup? |
| 00:41.12 | streuner | SPF: as dvs already mentioned, it could be that the firmware isnt in that package |
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| 00:41.37 | nsadmin | do you have all partitions in the raid0? |
| 00:41.49 | fahad | nsadmin: yes |
| 00:42.05 | nsadmin | is your installation running now? |
| 00:42.44 | streuner | SPF: you can install it then in /lib/firmware (default in debian) |
| 00:42.45 | nsadmin | if so... is it possible to boot, if by typing stuff in to help the booter find everything? |
| 00:42.46 | fahad | nsadmin: no the installer failed install grub. I'm in rescue mode with a shell in the soon to be root partition |
| 00:43.06 | nsadmin | soon to be? there's nothign in it? |
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| 00:43.43 | fahad | nsadmin: everything is there |
| 00:44.00 | SPF | streuner: what about aptitude install zd1211-firmware ? |
| 00:44.05 | nsadmin | so it's ready to boot except the booter isn't installed |
| 00:44.06 | nsadmin | brb |
| 00:44.12 | fahad | nsadmin: exactly |
| 00:44.17 | streuner | SPF: sounds good to me too :-) |
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| 00:45.04 | SPF | http://wiki.debian.org/zd1211rw |
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| 00:45.40 | streuner | SPF: great, why iam just give you an answer then :-P |
| 00:45.55 | fahad | nsadmin: grub-install /dev/md0 fails, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem |
| 00:46.20 | SPF | streuner: well, you pointed me in the right direction |
| 00:46.39 | nsadmin | see what they can tell you on #grub |
| 00:47.21 | streuner | SPF: yes, WLAN stuff is very different, you hardly able to know every NIC and there config, true |
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| 00:48.34 | SPF | streuner: it works fine now. Time to add encryption :) |
| 00:48.55 | streuner | just learned again, wiki.debian.org is more and more better and mention lots of things |
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| 01:27.28 | joshb | (ftr, ifconfig eth0 up; dhclient eth0; did it :) |
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| 01:28.41 | tharkun | !congratulate joshb |
| 01:28.41 | dpkg | Woohoo joshb, you did it! |
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| 01:29.20 | joshb | ;) sorry for being so clueless, but i like it that way |
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| 01:31.52 | tharkun | joshb: whatever anyone tells you. All great gurus where once noobs :P |
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| 01:32.26 | simonrvn | yes they were. and are still. everyone is a 'noob' at something. |
| 01:33.59 | joshb | exactly, i was better off giving someone 25,- to install this PC for me, and getting to do my core business (which happens to be world revolution :-)) |
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| 01:35.59 | joshb | linux is so stable now, i practically never have any trouble with it, useless to know how to fix what never breaks isn't it |
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| 01:42.16 | simonrvn | that's why you start fiddling with things, do new things, find new things, improve old things, etc. etc. |
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| 01:57.09 | thepro4ever | i am having a very serious issue with being able to use debian right now, I am currently booted up in single user mode, when booted up in normal mode something is wrong with my keystroke responses. When I type no letters are returned, if i hold any key down for a couple seconds it will print out the letter twice, obviously my keyboard is working fine right now in single user mode |
| 01:57.55 | thepro4ever | when i hold down the keys for a few seconds in normal mode it prints out the corresponding letter but twice as in EX: HHEELLOO |
| 01:58.10 | thepro4ever | but when typing normaly it displays nothing |
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| 01:58.35 | thepro4ever | i have no idea how to even google this shit, i'm hoping theres an expert in here that my realize if i did something stupid with my configs or something |
| 01:59.10 | streuner | so you just installed Debian, right? |
| 01:59.23 | thepro4ever | streuner: no its been working fine for a few months |
| 02:01.51 | streuner | single mode sounds to me, like the FS is broken |
| 02:02.11 | poprocks | thepro4ever: do you only have this problem in X? |
| 02:02.12 | streuner | in a working/normal Debian |
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| 02:02.42 | thepro4ever | streuner: how is that possible, all my apps work fine in normal mode but my tpying doesn't work |
| 02:03.03 | thepro4ever | poprocks: yes sir, when i have my gnome debian lenny desktop up |
| 02:03.33 | poprocks | thepro4ever: never had this problem myself, but I've heard of it - there's a section on the archlinux wiki addressing it -- http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_Input_Hotplugging#When_I_press_a_key.2C_X_thinks_I_pressed_it_multiple_times |
| 02:03.45 | poprocks | might want to check that out, not sure how applicable it will be to a Debian install though |
| 02:04.29 | thepro4ever | does it say that when the key is tapped it displays nothing as well and that you have to hold it down then it double prints? |
| 02:04.38 | thepro4ever | sorry i can't copy that and immediately look at it |
| 02:04.44 | thepro4ever | i'm writing it down |
| 02:04.48 | poprocks | not to my knowledge, no |
| 02:05.43 | poprocks | there's not much more I can suggest since I've never had the problem myself - all I know is that I've heard other people have had that issue w/ Xorg and there are a bunch of solutions/howtos floating around |
| 02:06.19 | poprocks | if anyone else has a more Debian-centered solution, feel free to share. I actually use Archlinux, I just come here for the conversation sometimes ;-) |
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| 02:14.38 | thepro4ever | I thought you guys might want to know the solution to my keyboard problem, my graphics and mouse still worked fine, i went under System->Preferences->Keyboard and underneath this there was a check box called "Slow Keys" and a check box which says "Only accept long key presses" I deselected the check box and now i'm fine, what I can't figure out is how it got turned on since I never even knew how to open up keyboard preferences befo |
| 02:15.20 | thepro4ever | just in case some other noob comes asking you will now |
| 02:15.27 | thepro4ever | know |
| 02:15.44 | poprocks | thepro4ever: odd, plus your solution may only work in GNOME and won't apply when you run X from another instance now |
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| 02:17.39 | scd | how do i update my debian to ubuntu |
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| 02:26.25 | slidesinger | Having difficulty setting up a pppoe connection. I followed the steps here: http://wiki.debian.org/PPPoE which did bring up the interface, but unable to ping any internet IP addresses. Running Lenny/Stable and looking for more detailed howto with troubleshooting suggestions. |
| 02:26.28 | slidesinger | Also, the internet led on the modem does not light like it did when it was working on the windows box I had to use to provision the connection (Linux not supported, what else is new?) |
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| 02:27.25 | slidesinger | ppp0 is up and has a public ip. Can ping that ip but no further. |
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| 02:27.48 | slidesinger | traceroute comes back as not allowed. |
| 02:27.53 | mplabs | Hello |
| 02:28.26 | mplabs | Is there any bug with the last release of Squeeze (amd64, kde) ? it was impossible to install grub ! |
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| 02:29.06 | slidesinger | mplabs: From the installer? Or post install? |
| 02:29.14 | mplabs | from the installer |
| 02:29.17 | mplabs | and.. post install |
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| 02:30.30 | mplabs | I mean, i tried from the installer, it doesnt work so I thought it was an error of the grub that is in the CD so I tried with other copy of Squeeze from months ago and it was the same, then I tried to install Debian from this other copy and it works |
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| 02:31.08 | ooo | i am unable to install grub |
| 02:31.12 | nsadmin | hmm, you're the second one today that said something about grub and squeeze |
| 02:31.16 | ooo | since last release of squeeze |
| 02:31.27 | LinuxNIT | my fan never shuts off on my laptop is there a kernel option i need or something? |
| 02:31.30 | mplabs | it seems to be a bug in the last release |
| 02:31.31 | ooo | LinuxNIT: same |
| 02:31.41 | ooo | mplabs: identical problem |
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| 02:32.22 | mplabs | ooo: so you have the same problem.. |
| 02:32.26 | mplabs | then it should be a bug |
| 02:32.27 | ooo | ooo yes |
| 02:32.32 | ooo | i agree |
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| 02:32.47 | ooo | i have grub 1.98 ready to install |
| 02:32.51 | ooo | but it wont actually do it |
| 02:32.53 | ooo | i can't boot |
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| 02:32.58 | ooo | i don't know how i am here |
| 02:33.14 | nsadmin | how am you here?! |
| 02:33.17 | allanmaio | cool |
| 02:33.18 | ooo | how am i here |
| 02:33.24 | nsadmin | oh :) |
| 02:33.27 | ooo | same :) |
| 02:33.38 | allanmaio | You were abduzed |
| 02:33.49 | mplabs | by the way, it is stranger since I tried with a version of grub that I know is working and it doesnt work with this installation |
| 02:33.54 | nsadmin | what did you do just before you realized you were here? |
| 02:34.04 | ooo | tried to poop |
| 02:34.09 | nsadmin | "drank a rum n coke"? |
| 02:34.14 | ooo | or three |
| 02:34.16 | nsadmin | and only farted? |
| 02:34.16 | ooo | lets be honest |
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| 02:34.27 | ooo | nsadmin: don't ever do that to me again |
| 02:34.28 | scd | im trying to upgrade my debian to ubuntu and grud wont install, 64 bit, is this normal |
| 02:34.45 | nsadmin | what did I did? |
| 02:34.49 | dondelelcaro | scd: you can't upgrade to ubuntu, and regardless, that's a question for #ubuntu, not us |
| 02:34.50 | ooo | u did what u did |
| 02:34.52 | mplabs | same problem everywhere ! |
| 02:35.13 | ooo | u know what u did to make me did what i did when u did what u did how u did |
| 02:35.18 | nsadmin | yeah, at least two or three today |
| 02:35.19 | dondelelcaro | ooo: if you don't have a Debian related problem, please be quiet. |
| 02:35.24 | scd | whats this us shit u have a mouse in ur pocket |
| 02:35.27 | mplabs | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=598062 |
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| 02:35.29 | ooo | i do, i run squeaze dondelelcaro |
| 02:35.32 | libraryben | i have a powerpc mac mini and i want to put debian on it. will all the packages for x86 chipsets be available to me? |
| 02:35.48 | dondelelcaro | libraryben: almost all of them, yes |
| 02:36.04 | dondelelcaro | (plus some that aren't available to i386) |
| 02:36.41 | mplabs | any idea ? I need to have my computer working tomorrow ! |
| 02:36.46 | ooo | i have a sparc apox 1200 cpu with 1200 mhz of pure sun power that is unable to run debian, but runs ubuntu fine, why can't i install grub |
| 02:36.52 | libraryben | dondlelcaro, so it doesn't matter what chipset i'm running as long as i'm running debian? cause right now i'm running mac os x and some programs wont open cause they say "you dont' have an intel chip." |
| 02:36.57 | libraryben | debian doesn't work like that? |
| 02:37.04 | nsadmin | mplabs: try stable (lenny) |
| 02:37.24 | mplabs | oh, I read here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=598062 that it works |
| 02:37.28 | dondelelcaro | libraryben: pretty much, yes |
| 02:37.31 | mplabs | but I wanted Squeeze |
| 02:37.36 | ooo | yea |
| 02:37.40 | ooo | i wanted squeaze 2 |
| 02:37.49 | dondelelcaro | ooo: so install lenny, then upgrade, or wait for the installer to be fixed |
| 02:37.52 | ooo | is it possible to take my pc from lenny to squeaze |
| 02:38.02 | mplabs | dont you know if the last week release is working ? it wont be so different and if it is working it could be a solution |
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| 02:38.22 | libraryben | dondelelcaro: how do find out which ones will not be available? |
| 02:38.44 | dondelelcaro | libraryben: they will be ones that don't work on powerpc because they're architecture specific or not portable |
| 02:39.04 | ooo | ready or not |
| 02:39.07 | ooo | here i come |
| 02:39.08 | ooo | gonna find u |
| 02:39.11 | ooo | and take it slowly |
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| 02:39.27 | mplabs | ooo: to find what ? |
| 02:39.32 | libraryben | dondelelcaro: hmm... so like what kind of programs are processor specific? |
| 02:40.25 | dondelelcaro | libraryben: an assmembly-only program, for example. Or something that works with architecture specific bits, like buses. |
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| 02:42.12 | libraryben | dondelelcaro: thanks a bunch! |
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| 02:43.10 | mplabs | oh, by the way, when will be released the next copy of Squeeze ? mine is of two days ago, and the bug was reported about 6 days ago, perhaps it will be ok in the next one, is it on Mondays ? |
| 02:44.53 | indrora_ | its whenever the packages get updated. |
| 02:45.16 | mplabs | I read on debian.org that it is weekly |
| 02:45.49 | indrora_ | So, check the package lists. you do an apt-get update weekly and just watch |
| 02:45.51 | indrora_ | or daily |
| 02:45.56 | dondelelcaro | mplabs: squeeze changes twice a day |
| 02:46.02 | indrora_ | Really? |
| 02:46.06 | mplabs | oh! |
| 02:46.09 | mplabs | I didnt know |
| 02:46.15 | mplabs | thats great! |
| 02:46.16 | indrora_ | didn't either |
| 02:46.38 | mplabs | I thought it was once per week ! |
| 02:46.51 | indrora_ | I figured it was whenever a package hit updates |
| 02:46.52 | indrora_ | :x |
| 02:47.57 | dondelelcaro | nah, it gets updated whenever dinstall runs, assuming there are changes from the testing scripts |
| 02:48.02 | dondelelcaro | (and dinstall runs twice daily) |
| 02:48.09 | indrora_ | Oh |
| 02:48.12 | indrora_ | well then |
| 02:48.50 | indrora_ | Anyone know how I can make cpufreqd bring down my cpu speed when I'm on battery and bring it up when I'm on AC |
| 02:49.15 | dondelelcaro | indrora_: laptop-mode-tools does this |
| 02:49.22 | indrora_ | really? |
| 02:49.32 | dondelelcaro | indrora_: yes |
| 02:49.35 | dondelelcaro | you can tune it if you want |
| 02:49.52 | dondelelcaro | (there may be other, DM/WM-specific tools, too) |
| 02:49.59 | indrora_ | how? I'm only on a 1Ghz p3 but it runs for a lot longer when the cpu is throttled down to 700Mhz |
| 02:50.37 | indrora_ | also, I didnt have laptop-mode-tools installed |
| 02:53.01 | mplabs | ok, I could find if its fixed now |
| 02:53.16 | mplabs | s/could/couldnt/ |
| 02:55.45 | indrora_ | Right... anyone know the package for Yahoo messaging on Empathy in squeeze? |
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| 03:05.30 | mplabs | "Subject: grub-installer cannot install grub-pc on amd64 ( perhaps other architecture )" |
| 03:05.33 | mplabs | "Severity: important" |
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| 03:05.49 | mplabs | it should be "crucial" ! |
| 03:06.14 | indrora_ | what's going wrong with grub-installer? |
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| 03:06.59 | mplabs | indrora_: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=598130 |
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| 03:08.05 | mplabs | indrora_, summary: if you want to install Squeeze on your AMD64 you wont be able |
| 03:08.15 | indrora_ | o.O |
| 03:08.20 | indrora_ | Awkward |
| 03:08.27 | indrora_ | uses PLoP to boot, so it doesnt matter |
| 03:08.49 | mplabs | oh, Im not sure its a grub problem |
| 03:08.56 | mplabs | i guess it is not |
| 03:09.19 | sweetpi | wow I joined at an odd time. why couldnt someone install squeeze on amd64? |
| 03:09.30 | indrora_ | grub-install fails |
| 03:09.56 | mplabs | but ! sure it will be fixed soon :) |
| 03:10.02 | mplabs | (I hope) |
| 03:11.09 | sweetpi | I didnt have any problems. guess its been about a week since I last tried though |
| 03:11.54 | mplabs | sweetpi: it seems to happen just with the last build |
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| 03:12.31 | mplabs | when did you install it sweetpi ? I need an older copy of Squeeze |
| 03:12.39 | sweetpi | mplabs: I see. happen to have a link? |
| 03:13.12 | sweetpi | mplabs: not sure exactly, I netboot everything though |
| 03:13.19 | mplabs | ahm |
| 03:13.25 | mplabs | but when was that ? |
| 03:13.50 | sweetpi | maybe 1-2 weeks tops |
| 03:13.54 | mplabs | sweetpi: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=598130 |
| 03:14.04 | sweetpi | thanks |
| 03:15.21 | mplabs | can I download from debian.org old images ? |
| 03:16.45 | sweetpi | mplabs: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily.old/ |
| 03:16.56 | mplabs | oh, great, thank you |
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| 03:22.47 | mplabs | sweetpi: the oldest build is from 2 days ago, it wont help |
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| 03:24.52 | sweetpi | mplabs: give me a min and I'll see if I can get an older one |
| 03:25.07 | mplabs | dont worry, it was just a comment |
| 03:25.33 | sweetpi | ok |
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| 03:37.27 | mplabs | ok, have to go. thank you all ! |
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| 04:05.13 | sweetpi | indrora_: what squeeze installer did you use that failed? I just used the latest installer and grub installed fine |
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| 04:05.27 | indrora_ | it wasn't me that had the problem |
| 04:05.41 | sweetpi | oh |
| 04:05.43 | indrora_ | sweetpi, it was mplabs that did |
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| 04:57.04 | xevv | hi.. can i use fluxbox or xface on linux mint debian edition? |
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| 05:18.54 | mahiti-irc | hi |
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| 05:19.14 | mahiti-irc | i need to set /proc/sys/fs/epoll/max_user_instances to 1024 |
| 05:19.25 | mahiti-irc | but the file doesnt exist debian 5.0 |
| 05:19.37 | mahiti-irc | any idea? |
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| 05:21.23 | mahiti-irc | yawns |
| 05:21.35 | mahiti-irc | anyone here |
| 05:22.07 | razvand | Hi! Is there a preferred way to export NFS shares other than creating a startup script invoking "exportfs -ra"? |
| 05:22.21 | razvand | To export automatically at boot time |
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| 05:23.46 | rick_g | HELP! I got in a horrible dependency problem. Turns out that (don't ask me how) I got python 2.5.4-2 installed, but now i need to install python-dev, which requires python 2.5.2-3. What can i do? If i uninstall python to downgrade, it'll screw up EVERYTHING, including KDE! :( |
| 05:23.52 | sweetpi | razvand: /etc/exports |
| 05:23.54 | mahiti-irc | anyone got a idea on how to set fs.epoll.max_user_instances?? |
| 05:25.11 | razvand | sweetpi: I'm using /etc/exports and "exportfs -ra" to "publish" exports. However, the sharing server doesn't properly export those share when booting. I have to run exportfs -ra manually. |
| 05:25.59 | razvand | I've read that the nfs-kernel-server script should publish shares, but it doesn't happen at boot time |
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| 05:29.27 | sweetpi | razvand: Maybe I'm not sure what you mean by "publish at boot time". (not much nfs experience) I just use /etc/exports and nfs-kernel-server and everything works fine |
| 05:30.36 | sweetpi | rick_g: what version are you running? |
| 05:31.02 | rick_g | sweetpi: I'm running Mepis 8.5 + Debian Lenny (and some packages from Squeeze) |
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| 05:32.56 | razvand | sweetpi: If I do a "mount server:/path/to/share /local/path" it fails. It only works if I do an exportfs -ra on the server (in order to export/publish the share). I assume this task (export/publish the share) should be done at boot time by the nfs-kernel-server script, but it does not happen. For the time being I've added a cron.hourly script to run "exportfs -ra". |
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| 05:37.36 | sweetpi | razvand: not sure what to tell you except check logs, I've never had to manually re-export like that. I'd test for you, but I dont have anything available atm |
| 05:40.43 | razvand | sweetpi, I checked the logs, I found nothing relevant; I'll keep looking. Thanks for your time and support! |
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| 05:41.50 | belak | What's the easiest way to install debian over the network? |
| 05:42.05 | belak | I tried a usb boot drive with unetbootin before but it didn't work |
| 05:42.19 | belak | And I don't want the standard gnome release... |
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| 05:42.32 | rick_g | belak: Download a DVD and burn it :P (downloading counts as network, doesn't it?) |
| 05:43.13 | belak | I was hoping to do it from a usb drive |
| 05:43.47 | rick_g | sorry, haven't tried it. |
| 05:43.55 | belak | Ok |
| 05:43.58 | rick_g | but i could recommend you using Mepis 8.5 |
| 05:44.01 | rick_g | it's debian + kde 4 |
| 05:44.06 | rick_g | or mepis 8 = debian + kde3 |
| 05:44.29 | belak | Hm |
| 05:44.36 | belak | I'm on gentoo now |
| 05:44.50 | belak | I liked ubuntu but I wanted something with a little more flexability |
| 05:45.11 | belak | So, I'm hoping to try debian unstable |
| 05:45.25 | belak | Sorry |
| 05:45.31 | belak | TESTING, not unstable |
| 05:45.35 | rumpsy | belak: try stable |
| 05:45.35 | rick_g | oh |
| 05:45.40 | rick_g | you scared me for a moment |
| 05:45.43 | belak | Hehe |
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| 05:45.45 | belak | Yeah |
| 05:45.46 | belak | I know |
| 05:45.49 | belak | I'm not insane |
| 05:45.58 | belak | Well, I might be since I'm using gentoo right now |
| 05:46.11 | belak | I got the terms confused because I was thinking of gentoo unstable |
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| 05:46.52 | UweBollsFunder | is Gentoo a cult? |
| 05:46.55 | rick_g | belak: try this link |
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| 05:47.23 | rick_g | mepis org node 93 (insert the slashes and dots in the corresponding places) |
| 05:47.39 | rick_g | says a mepis iso for 1gb usb keys is downloadable |
| 05:47.48 | belak | Why mepis though? |
| 05:48.00 | belak | I can burn a cd if I have to |
| 05:48.06 | belak | I just was trying to avoid it |
| 05:48.20 | belak | I'd like to use debian testing, if possible |
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| 05:50.28 | sweetpi | razvand: np, only other thing I can suggest is checking /proc/fs/nfs/exports to verify they are exported at boot, then try mounting with -v to get more info |
| 05:51.55 | sweetpi | rick_g: why are you hiding the url? |
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| 05:52.18 | sweetpi | belak: you want testing live or just to install? |
| 05:52.19 | rick_g | sweetpi: I've pasted urls before in these channels. I'm not making the same mistake again. |
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| 05:53.10 | rumpsy | yeah this channel is logged |
| 05:53.27 | belak | sweetpi: just to install |
| 05:53.42 | rick_g | i'm not talking about the log. I'm talking about the bots auto-kick whoever pastes an url mistaking it for spam. |
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| 05:54.13 | belak | Hm... |
| 05:54.17 | rumpsy | rick_g: oh my goodness, i understand now |
| 05:54.23 | belak | Even debian urls? |
| 05:54.39 | rumpsy | he said whatever urls so it includes |
| 05:54.55 | belak | Well, let's see... http://www.debian.org |
| 05:55.02 | belak | Nothing... |
| 05:55.14 | rumpsy | rick_g: ^^ |
| 05:55.33 | rick_g | oh ok |
| 05:56.03 | rick_g | http://www.mepis.org/node/93 |
| 05:56.05 | rumpsy | you clear now, that url was not a know one for bot |
| 05:56.05 | rick_g | *ducks* |
| 05:56.17 | rumpsy | known* |
| 05:56.31 | rick_g | hey, guess what, nothing happened AAAAAA *gets eaten by a velociraptor* |
| 05:56.53 | belak | Haha, well, now we know. |
| 05:56.54 | rumpsy | hehe |
| 05:57.00 | belak | Anyway... |
| 05:57.11 | belak | So, to install... |
| 05:57.23 | belak | Which one of the many types of CDs should I use? |
| 05:57.58 | rumpsy | minimal, i guess |
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| 05:58.56 | belak | Small CD, Tiny CD or Network Boot? |
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| 05:59.43 | sweetpi | belak: netinst http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 06:00.25 | sweetpi | belak: or you could use hd-media for usb |
| 06:01.07 | belak | I'll just try the netinst |
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| 06:09.44 | mahiti-irc | anyone got a idea on how to set fs.epoll.max_user_instances?? |
| 06:09.48 | mahiti-irc | anyone !!! |
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| 06:10.08 | mahiti-irc | i got a error: "fs.epoll.max_user_instances" is an unknown key when set in sysctl |
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| 06:13.32 | sweetpi | mahiti-irc: it got dropped from the kernel a while back |
| 06:13.45 | mahiti-irc | oh sweetpi |
| 06:14.00 | mahiti-irc | so whats the workaround? |
| 06:14.29 | mahiti-irc | the apache child process is giving a seg fault |
| 06:14.49 | mahiti-irc | i saw a post saying to do the epoll value |
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| 06:15.13 | sweetpi | mahiti-irc: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/4548/ |
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| 06:17.10 | mahiti-irc | sweetpi, i dont get it !??!?! |
| 06:18.13 | mahiti-irc | sweetpi, does it mean i should use max_use_watches |
| 06:18.18 | sweetpi | mahiti-irc: not sure what the workaround would be, according to a few posts the problem should have went away with max_user_instances |
| 06:18.29 | mahiti-irc | ya |
| 06:18.42 | mahiti-irc | but now its not there! |
| 06:18.47 | sweetpi | *i mean when max_user_instances was removed |
| 06:18.57 | mahiti-irc | oh |
| 06:19.29 | sweetpi | mahiti-irc: https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=46467 |
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| 06:21.02 | mahiti-irc | sweetpi, oh ok |
| 06:21.22 | mahiti-irc | sweetpi, but its not gone for me |
| 06:21.46 | sweetpi | mahiti-irc: what is max_user_watches set to? |
| 06:22.25 | mahiti-irc | just a sec, will look that |
| 06:23.26 | sweetpi | mahiti-irc: also maybe try #httpd they might just send you back here though |
| 06:23.29 | mahiti-irc | 276440 |
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| 06:23.44 | mahiti-irc | ya sweetpi , i am tryin there too |
| 06:23.52 | mahiti-irc | no response :( |
| 06:24.39 | sweetpi | mahiti-irc: one of the boxes here is set to 829870, likely has to do with how much resources though |
| 06:25.16 | mahiti-irc | have a RAM of 3GB |
| 06:25.30 | mahiti-irc | then shud i increase it? |
| 06:25.53 | mahiti-irc | 829870 is really huge compared to mine |
| 06:26.07 | sweetpi | yeah, and this box only has 4GB |
| 06:26.08 | rumpsy | updating bios , see you al later |
| 06:26.34 | mahiti-irc | ok |
| 06:26.49 | mahiti-irc | what value u recommend for me |
| 06:27.12 | mahiti-irc | same? |
| 06:27.56 | didar | Is there a kernel tunable (/proc setting) which specifies the default process priority? |
| 06:28.49 | didar | I am running Lenny inside KVM and all my processes are starting at higher prio (-2) - what's on, any idea? |
| 06:28.59 | sweetpi | mahiti-irc: not sure, I didnt setup this box. maybe set to 1.5 times and see if its better. <insert_disclaimer> :) |
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| 06:31.08 | mahiti-irc | ok right |
| 06:32.20 | didar | BRB |
| 06:33.19 | mahiti-irc | i set it to 552880 |
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| 06:36.19 | mahiti-irc | ok thx sweetpi |
| 06:36.27 | mahiti-irc | lets see how it goes |
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| 09:15.08 | eagles0513875 | whats the command to import ssh keys |
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| 09:19.50 | llutz | eagles0513875: ssh-keygen -i |
| 09:20.09 | eagles0513875 | llutz: i have the keys already i dont need them generated |
| 09:20.12 | eagles0513875 | i need to import them |
| 09:20.29 | llutz | eagles0513875: ssh-keygen -i (man ssh-keygen) |
| 09:20.55 | eagles0513875 | another question i have some vm's that im runnign and not all on debian |
| 09:21.02 | eagles0513875 | does that command work for instance with centos |
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| 09:24.49 | llutz | eagles0513875: if you're using ssh-keygen from openssh-client, sure |
| 09:24.57 | eagles0513875 | ok kool |
| 09:24.58 | eagles0513875 | thanks |
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| 09:28.21 | ziftex | Hi Guys. I looking into replacing barracuda spam firewall with new product in production. What production ready foss software are avalible for exchange with good filtering rates? |
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| 09:31.25 | Baughn | Is there any way I can install the -dev packages for *all* installed libraries, instead of having to manually name the ones I need? (Which inevitably means recompiling.. again and again as I discover more missing packages) |
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| 09:40.57 | eshat | Hi all |
| 09:41.21 | eshat | I am looking for a simple MTA, so that my notebook can send mails to my private gmail adress |
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| 09:41.37 | eshat | it should not be complex, like sendmail or postfix is |
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| 09:45.25 | eshat | Oh i just found xmail |
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| 09:45.58 | llutz | Shadur: mstmtp/ssmtp |
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| 09:46.08 | llutz | msmtp sry |
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| 09:52.33 | zombitarian | I just setup my old G4 (debian),,, it is comfortable, got to get it tuned up a bit though |
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| 09:57.27 | jmd | Which package contains the documentation for gcov ? |
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| 10:02.00 | dutchfish | jmd: you mean libdevel-cover-perl's manpages? |
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| 10:06.09 | jmd | dutchfish, Err ... I don't think so. |
| 10:06.34 | jmd | Why do you think it would be perl related? |
| 10:07.01 | dutchfish | jmd: err, sorry for the noise |
| 10:08.41 | dutchfish | jmd: i was thinking gcov2perl, which can convert gcov files to Devel::Cover databases and it has a lot of docs, my mistake. |
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| 10:13.27 | jmd | dutchfish, np |
| 10:13.29 | DarkSun | hi all. i've a problem with java1.6. i've debian sid version! it's a bug? |
| 10:13.36 | dutchfish | jmd: there is some more in lcov but onlu for gcov textual output |
| 10:14.51 | dutchfish | jmd: and of couse this http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Gcov.html |
| 10:16.00 | jmd | dutchfish, Yeah I think that's what I need. I wonder why it's not installed along with gcc. |
| 10:16.22 | DarkSun | anyone can help me? |
| 10:16.35 | f8l | DarkSun: You didn't tell us anything about the problem you have. You should already know what a bug is if you run sid. |
| 10:16.50 | dutchfish | jmd: does it has manpages on your setup? (just curieus) i am at squeeze/x86_64 and no manpages. |
| 10:17.21 | DarkSun | f8l: if I run the java test to know if works, the output is: "Error" |
| 10:18.28 | jmd | Gnu considers man pages to be obsolecent. Their docs are normally in Texinfo format. |
| 10:18.41 | dutchfish | jmd: ah, ic |
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| 10:19.45 | homecable | check this video out of my freind at work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlRL7axE1To |
| 10:20.07 | jmd | homecable, Why? What has it to do with debian? |
| 10:20.19 | homecable | its funny |
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| 10:21.09 | jmd | homecable, Then announce it on #fun |
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| 10:21.42 | jmd | Here we discuss things debianny |
| 10:22.07 | xelister | since the ultimate security exploit (useless openssh keys genererated over 2 years - without anyone noticing), where there some fundemental changes to patches review / source code review (esp. for cruciall security components)? |
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| 10:26.38 | dutchfish | xelister: if you have nicely updated your system to stable latest debian repo, you have long ago got a conversion fix aplied, read the topic. |
| 10:27.20 | Dewi | dutchfish: he's asking about review processes |
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| 10:28.19 | Dewi | xelister: I don't know if the processes have changed - who is going to do these security audits? |
| 10:29.20 | dutchfish | Dewi, xelister, as far as i know, nothing has been changed, it still is handled by DSA team. |
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| 10:30.52 | dutchfish | http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/ |
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| 10:37.16 | versuchsanstalt | i have installed apache2 on my local machine and want it to parse php scripts. when i access them by "http://hostname/path/file.php", everything's fine. "http://localhost/path/file.php" will not parse it but offer it to the browser for download. i'm sure there is a "localhost" missing in a configuration file, but which one? |
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| 10:39.58 | eshat | anyone using masqmail as MTA and can help me with the online_detect option ? |
| 10:40.56 | dutchfish | versuchsanstalt: what happens when you cast 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost? |
| 10:41.22 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: sounds like you have the PHP handlers defined within a virtualhost listening bound to the ip address |
| 10:41.34 | emretemp | versuchsanstalt: if your browser starts downloading there is nothing wrong with localhost settings. your web server just does not know how to behave when a php file is requested. you need to install php and tell your web server how to handle php files correctly (by sending php files to php compiler) |
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| 10:42.18 | versuchsanstalt | thank you, checking your suggestions... |
| 10:43.22 | versuchsanstalt | dutchfish: php gets parsed when asking for 127.0.0.1/path/file.php |
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| 10:43.52 | dutchfish | versuchsanstalt: edit your /etc/hosts file to reflect that localhost is in there |
| 10:44.01 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: look for 'AddType application/x-httpd-php' is the directive on how to handle .php |
| 10:44.02 | versuchsanstalt | dutchfish: that must be it |
| 10:44.08 | llutz | eshat: whats your problem with it? |
| 10:44.22 | Dewi | dutchfish / versuchsanstalt : no |
| 10:44.38 | eshat | llutz: I am looking for a modern way to determine if the machine is online, since default config is out dated |
| 10:44.42 | versuchsanstalt | Dewi: the file type is defined, it must be host stuff |
| 10:44.49 | dutchfish | Dewi: ? |
| 10:44.57 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: is it inside a </VirtualHost> block? |
| 10:45.09 | eshat | llutz: I am using network manager to get an internet connectiob |
| 10:45.11 | jmd | eshat, What exactly do you mean by "online"? |
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| 10:45.21 | Dewi | dutchfish: if localhost was undefined he would not get served anything on it |
| 10:45.22 | llutz | eshat: on dial-up connection? |
| 10:45.30 | eshat | llutz: wireless |
| 10:45.31 | Dewi | dutchfish: never change localhost to be anything but the default |
| 10:45.39 | eshat | jmd: connected to internet ;) |
| 10:46.08 | jmd | eshat, Yes. But what do you mean by that? |
| 10:46.32 | dutchfish | Dewi: if his vhost has defined localhost instead of 127.0.0.1 it localhost *must* be contained in /etc/hosts |
| 10:46.33 | eshat | jmd: well masqmail checks if the machone has an internet connection, otherwise it does not deliver mail |
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| 10:46.50 | eshat | jmd: and this is configured in two ways |
| 10:47.00 | Dewi | dutchfish: localhost *is* 127.0.0.1. |
| 10:47.09 | versuchsanstalt | hrm, localhost is in /etc/hosts and i can't remember to have put it there. |
| 10:47.12 | jmd | "internet connection" could mean anything. |
| 10:47.16 | versuchsanstalt | Dewi: and there's no place like it... |
| 10:47.19 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: it's meant to be there |
| 10:47.22 | dutchfish | Dewi: i can be 127.0.0.1 but it can be happely something else ;) |
| 10:47.23 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: leave it |
| 10:47.28 | jmd | It could mean that at least one network device is configured. |
| 10:47.29 | versuchsanstalt | yeah, sure. |
| 10:47.31 | Dewi | dutchfish: no, that's totally wrong |
| 10:47.48 | Dewi | dutchfish: you set that to an external IP address and bye bye security! |
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| 10:48.13 | dutchfish | Dewi: all 127.x.x.x are local |
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| 10:48.30 | Dewi | dutchfish: sure, but why would apache be configured on any of those? |
| 10:48.33 | dutchfish | Dewi: lets stop this please ... |
| 10:48.33 | versuchsanstalt | this is a machine i am using as a client and workstation, it shouldn't be accessible outside my lan anyway |
| 10:48.35 | jmd | But if there's nothing plugged into that interface, then it's not particularly meaningful. |
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| 10:48.55 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: is this apache from debian? |
| 10:49.01 | versuchsanstalt | Dewi: yup |
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| 10:49.27 | jmd | Also, you could be connected to a 192.168.0.0 machine, so this would also not be considered as "the internet" by most people. |
| 10:49.31 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: can you stop apache and check those urls again? we need to rule out whether something else is listening on 127.0.0.1:80 or something |
| 10:49.49 | dutchfish | Dewi: good tought |
| 10:50.00 | versuchsanstalt | yes, brb |
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| 10:50.25 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: by default php in debian works like this. /etc/apache.conf has this line: Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf |
| 10:50.38 | eshat | what is an easy to config MTA for notebooks ? |
| 10:50.42 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: that loads a file called /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf which has the AddTypes |
| 10:50.54 | eshat | it should just cron mails to my external gmail adress |
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| 10:51.14 | Dewi | eshat: that's not simple |
| 10:51.22 | Dewi | eshat: I recommend pulling them into gmail via POP instead |
| 10:51.29 | versuchsanstalt | Dewi: that's why i asked in #debian specifically |
| 10:51.33 | Dewi | eshat: that way you don't get a million errors whenever your notebook is off the net |
| 10:51.37 | versuchsanstalt | thanks for pointing it out |
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| 10:52.07 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: so that Include should not be inside any other blocks that would select a particular IP |
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| 10:52.12 | eshat | Dewi: it is almost ever connected |
| 10:52.38 | eshat | s/ever/always |
| 10:52.57 | Bushmills | Shadur: ssmtp, for example. that's just an outbound mail forwarder |
| 10:53.18 | eshat | Bushmills: talking to me, right ? |
| 10:53.33 | Bushmills | oh, right, no idea why i made it that nick |
| 10:53.34 | versuchsanstalt | Dewi: everything's reasonable with port 80 and apache2's states. |
| 10:53.37 | Dewi | eshat: right, but the one time it isn't, your MTA will try to send, then fail and send you an email, which triggers an email, etc, then you have 150 messages waiting telling you about it |
| 10:53.59 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: okay, so is your site config in a /etc/apache2/sites-available file? |
| 10:54.25 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: Does it begin with a <VirtualHost line? |
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| 10:55.23 | versuchsanstalt | Dewi: <VirtualHost *:80> |
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| 10:55.57 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: hrm, confusing |
| 10:56.01 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: that all sounds right |
| 10:56.16 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: are you sure you're not seeing a cached version of before it was finished being configured or something? |
| 10:56.40 | versuchsanstalt | Dewi: would that section be a bad place to put the AddType directive? |
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| 10:56.58 | versuchsanstalt | (as i understand this is actually the file to call the include) |
| 10:57.27 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: no, the Includes are all in /etc/apache2/apache.conf |
| 10:57.31 | versuchsanstalt | Dewi: no cache errors. |
| 10:57.56 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: I thought the <VirtualHost> blocks would be in /etc/apache2/sites-available files, symlinked under /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
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| 10:58.43 | dutchfish | versuchsanstalt: can you paste the line of your /etc/hosts file that contains localhost ? |
| 10:59.09 | versuchsanstalt | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 10:59.20 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: might be best if you paste the <VirtualHost> block as well |
| 10:59.23 | dutchfish | versuchsanstalt: it should be : 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost |
| 10:59.26 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: to as paste site |
| 10:59.46 | Dewi | dutchfish is right |
| 10:59.47 | versuchsanstalt | hrm. |
| 10:59.58 | Dewi | (I have that too) |
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| 11:01.09 | versuchsanstalt | why the farque does the myhostname.local myhostname line have 127.0.1.1 when localhost has 0.1 (aside from missing the domain)... |
| 11:01.13 | versuchsanstalt | strange |
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| 11:01.37 | dutchfish | versuchsanstalt: there you go ... |
| 11:01.55 | versuchsanstalt | jehova |
| 11:02.00 | versuchsanstalt | eureka |
| 11:02.13 | Dewi | dutchfish wins all the beer |
| 11:02.19 | versuchsanstalt | cowabunga. thanks for your patience, buddies. |
| 11:02.20 | Dewi | (that's what dutch fishes swim in, right?) |
| 11:02.37 | dutchfish | yw |
| 11:03.23 | Dewi | versuchsanstalt: np. I prefer debian's apache config layout, but it's a bit confusing for everyone who lays it out the classic way |
| 11:03.30 | Kuifje111 | is it possible that bad sectors disappear after a format? |
| 11:03.35 | Dewi | (until they get used to it) |
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| 11:03.46 | dutchfish | Kuifje111: yes, but not for long |
| 11:04.05 | versuchsanstalt | Dewi: i like it also. but i tend to forget how it's applied to packages i don't configure very often. |
| 11:04.16 | Dewi | Kuifje111: sometimes people have methods to "recover" them, but more likely you just lost the markers indicating where they are |
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| 11:04.36 | Dewi | Kuifje111: I wouldn't know - I don't trust any disk with bad sectors. It's cheaper just to keep good disks |
| 11:04.46 | Dewi | (if you value your time, data, or sanity) |
| 11:04.47 | Kuifje111 | so what if I RMA it while the test says there are no bad sectors? will I get a new drive from the manufacturer? |
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| 11:05.01 | Dewi | Kuifje111: check the SMART status |
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| 11:05.22 | Dewi | Kuifje111: if that passes, check 'short test'. If that passes try 'long test' |
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| 11:05.40 | jmd | Dewi, I doubt it. Did you buy it from the manufacturer? |
| 11:05.45 | Kuifje111 | Dewi: the smart data is all ok. I am doing a 'long test' now. |
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| 11:06.48 | Kuifje111 | it found a couple of hundred bad sectors with badblocks before I formatted. |
| 11:07.13 | dutchfish | Kuifje111: some recent kernels might also produce false positives on that if you are running something else the fs ext3 on the fs level. |
| 11:07.13 | Dewi | Kuifje111: long test takes ages, so hopefully it finds any defect. And that should be enough for the manufacturer |
| 11:07.44 | Dewi | Kuifje111: I'm not sure about the specifics, but do remember that linux and 'badblocks' test also your RAM, cabling, etc |
| 11:08.18 | Kuifje111 | I see. well, I was really facing problems with the drive, it acted weird and such. another drive solved these issues. |
| 11:08.43 | dutchfish | Kuifje111: the long test would reveal hw failure ... |
| 11:08.54 | Dewi | Kuifje111: SMART also holds a log of past errors on most drives, btw |
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| 11:09.04 | Kuifje111 | ok, thanks for the help all. doing the long test now, hopefully it will give me something. |
| 11:09.06 | Dewi | Kuifje111: but the only tool I know that reveals all this is 'smartctl --all' |
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| 11:09.44 | Kuifje111 | I am on windows now. using the WD tool to do an extended test. |
| 11:09.52 | Dewi | Kuifje111: I do have 1 drive that had occasional errors for a while but has run fine for months now. I guess maybe it was too hot or something |
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| 11:10.28 | Dewi | Kuifje111: you can get smartmontools for windows too, but it's pretty uncomfortable compared to linux version. I usually keep a debian live CD around for windows maintenance |
| 11:10.31 | dutchfish | Kuifje111: i am curieus what fs and kernel you are running on that one |
| 11:11.13 | Dewi | Kuifje111: if you have changed operating systems, you might even have had a device driver issue |
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| 11:11.46 | Dewi | Kuifje111: I have definitely had the other way around: windows telling me about bad blocks on hardware, but linux was fine |
| 11:11.48 | Kuifje111 | it's some time that I had the errors with this drive; I have had it laying around doing nothing for some time now, but I guess it was kernel 2.6.2* or even 2.6.3* |
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| 11:12.02 | jaggz | I'm trying to get dovecot working with my 3 accounts and my virtualhost and it's not working.. the log says it checks my passwd file (specific to my virtualhost), but it still errors with "user not found from db" -- anyone know why? Here is the log: http://pastebin.com/uN0eqvXJ |
| 11:12.58 | Kuifje111 | Dewi: I used to use the HDD on linux and it found bad sectors on that system using bad blocks. running a test on windows now after a format on the drive. |
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| 11:13.25 | valdyn | Kuifje111: whats the point of that? |
| 11:13.40 | Kuifje111 | I will report back if I got the results and still have questions. test should take around ~9 hours. |
| 11:13.57 | Dewi | valdyn: hey I don't give my best disks to windows either :) |
| 11:14.30 | valdyn | Kuifje111: write to the bad blocks to "fix" them |
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| 11:14.40 | jaggz | oh, I"mnot using userdb.. hmm.. |
| 11:14.41 | valdyn | Kuifje111: "formatting" does nothing useful |
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| 11:14.57 | Kuifje111 | valdyn: how do I let badblocks do that? |
| 11:15.12 | valdyn | Kuifje111: thats in the manpage? |
| 11:15.17 | valdyn | Kuifje111: or man dd |
| 11:15.31 | Kuifje111 | ok, thanks |
| 11:15.34 | Kuifje111 | need to go now. |
| 11:15.38 | valdyn | Kuifje111: and look at your smartmontools, examine the reserve block count |
| 11:15.57 | valdyn | ( every disks has some reserve blocks to replace bad blocks ) |
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| 11:23.50 | jaggz | hm.. separate user and passwd db? |
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| 11:49.29 | dutchfish | hi, i want to know if there is a better way then autofs5 to continously have a remote mount and autoremount when it gets stale over smbfs or other. |
| 11:50.13 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hi, I am on testing.. Whenever I am trying to install a package apt is suggesting to autoremove some important packages.. Any solutions? |
| 11:50.29 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | here is the result. along with my sources.list http://paste.debian.net/92856/ |
| 11:50.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | sh4d3sl4y3r_: probably pinning |
| 11:50.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: not afaik |
| 11:50.47 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | Kamping_Kaiser: i don't use pin currently |
| 11:51.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | sh4d3sl4y3r_: alternatively, you removed a metapackage (eg gnome-desktop), and its having knock on effects |
| 11:51.57 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | nope. all i did was i updated my system today. which included system-config-printer.. openjdk and gcc updates. |
| 11:52.01 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | this problem came after that |
| 11:52.28 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hope it wont affect as long as i dnt remove these? packages will update the normal way right? |
| 11:52.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | 'all i did' *g* |
| 11:52.48 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: i have alos tried a cronjob with a heartbeat machinism, but that only brings me a granularity of 1 minute, and thats not enough, i was hoping for something like hooking up inotify. any idees to make this myself? |
| 11:53.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: not really i'm afraid. i haven't dealt with it closely enough to understand it that well |
| 11:54.03 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: ok, np, i delve into it further |
| 11:54.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: gl :) |
| 11:54.17 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | Kamping_Kaiser: I hope this wont affect my package installation/ upgradation anyways right? |
| 11:54.27 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks, i prolly need it ;) |
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| 11:54.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: hehe |
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| 11:55.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | sh4d3sl4y3r_: not directly |
| 11:55.22 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | ok. then it shouldnt matter |
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| 11:56.15 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | These days the test builds dont include the Desktop Enviroment in tasksel. though the cd comes with full gnome |
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| 11:59.17 | innociv | how do i remove postfix where I can have the install prompt configuration again? I did remove, install again, and there was no config prompting that time. |
| 12:01.09 | LV-426 | innociv, try dpkg-reconfigure postfix |
| 12:01.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | innociv: --purge remove. or just dpkg-reconfigure it |
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| 12:01.18 | innociv | Ok |
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| 12:05.06 | innociv | Thanks |
| 12:05.40 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: fyi, found a solution through inotify-tools, ie inotify-watch for my scriptlets :) |
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| 12:19.03 | paissad_ | hi all, i try to install ant, but i have a matter |
| 12:19.05 | paissad_ | http://pastebin.com/4u5Yac4J |
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| 12:19.47 | paissad_ | i did dpkg-reconfigure default-jre-headless, but that did not help me |
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| 12:20.07 | styler | hi all |
| 12:20.10 | styler | My problem is that i would like to make the ACl controlled application from CookBook and my problem is that when i add groups and users into database , in my aros table, the parent_id is null everywhere :/ I generate the aros, acos, and aro_acos with cake schema run create DbAcl |
| 12:20.30 | styler | can anybody help me pls? |
| 12:20.37 | paissad_ | here is dpkg-reconfigure default-jre-headless -> http://pastebin.com/XtEiQP4V |
| 12:20.48 | paissad_ | thanks in advance for helping |
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| 12:21.51 | styler | where can i get help ? |
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| 12:26.13 | LV-426 | paissad_, try this http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
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| 13:13.51 | eshat | I saw a Xorg version in experimental but cannot get it installed due to dependency problems,... is that usable on sid ? |
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| 13:41.48 | superlinux | hi. I am using a KVM switch. I get that the mouse does not move sometimes cos the kvm did not route it. and I will have to reboot. what should I do in Linux in order to avoid a reboot? |
| 13:42.32 | oye | restart x? |
| 13:43.41 | superlinux | oye, i tried.. did not work |
| 13:44.00 | superlinux | i had to reboot using the Magic SysRq |
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| 13:46.18 | jmd | superlinux, I feel compelled to ask, since you are using GNU/Linux why do you even need a KVM switch? I've only ever heard of them being used with Windoze. |
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| 13:48.09 | zinx | jmd: uhm, KVMs don't do anything that's OS-dependent |
| 13:48.37 | superlinux | jmd, I have an old laptop with a broken LCD screen. the screen looks like shot with a shotgun whose bullets are of little balls of plastic.. |
| 13:48.40 | Cheets | hi does anyone know how to create an additional loopback adapter? |
| 13:49.02 | superlinux | zinx, that's true |
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| 13:49.39 | superlinux | Cheets, does ifconfig lo2 work? |
| 13:49.50 | jmd | superlinux, Does the laptop have a working ethernet ? |
| 13:50.00 | Cheets | superlinux: no :( |
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| 13:50.32 | zinx | Cheets: ifconfig lo:1 |
| 13:50.50 | zinx | Cheets: it's not an additional adapter, but you can add additional ips/networks that way |
| 13:51.10 | superlinux | jmd, it's all good in shape technically.. I can work on it. the monitor is busted, unfortunately. I know you would refer to vnc or such |
| 13:51.37 | zinx | jmd: vnc is not a very good solution for many things |
| 13:51.43 | jmd | I would simply run a remote X server. |
| 13:52.00 | superlinux | well my setup is different |
| 13:52.09 | zinx | remote X servers aren't for GL/video :P |
| 13:52.16 | superlinux | and that's not what I came for. that's off my topic |
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| 13:52.42 | superlinux | the problem is happening in routing my desktop's mouse. |
| 13:52.49 | zinx | superlinux: i would recommend unplugging the keyboard/mouse from the KVM and plugging them back in |
| 13:53.04 | zinx | superlinux: sounds like your KVM is not very good, which sadly is common |
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| 13:53.53 | superlinux | zinx, what would usually power the kvm if it comes without a power supplier? |
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| 13:53.59 | thepro4ever | hey |
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| 13:54.23 | thepro4ever | what is the character that represents the enter keystroke |
| 13:54.26 | thepro4ever | how do i enter it |
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| 13:54.40 | zinx | superlinux: the USB port(s) from the computers hooked to it |
| 13:54.43 | superlinux | it has number 13 thepro4ever |
| 13:55.21 | superlinux | no.. |
| 13:55.24 | zinx | superlinux: but many of them will reboot if you unplug/replug the mouse |
| 13:55.31 | superlinux | anyway, i'll figure it out |
| 13:55.50 | zinx | superlinux: it can also be powered by VGA |
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| 13:56.03 | superlinux | yes! vga.. most likely |
| 13:56.13 | superlinux | oh! toilet rush! |
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| 13:58.10 | jmd | superlinux, For $5 buy a second mouse. |
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| 14:00.05 | superlinux | jmd, i think zinx knows the kvm better than you do |
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| 14:00.24 | superlinux | jmd it's a way to share one monitor mainly |
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| 14:01.14 | [XeN] | is now away: bnc... |
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| 14:05.36 | simonrvn | beats having to switch over the monitor manually, and saves potential issues with the vga/whatever connection. |
| 14:06.34 | BigRedS | thepro4ever: what are you trying to enter it into? \n or \r often suffice (newline and carriage return respectively) |
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| 14:10.18 | [XeN] | is now away: bnc... |
| 14:11.09 | thepro4ever | i think i narrowed my problem down a bit more |
| 14:11.18 | thepro4ever | where are socket files crated on debian? |
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| 14:11.48 | cast | uh... |
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| 14:12.04 | cast | application dependant, but /tmp is a good bet |
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| 14:13.29 | LV-426 | thepro4ever, lsof -U for some examples |
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| 14:18.43 | thepro4ever | if I want to hook a windows pc up to a debian pc what kind of cable do I need? I intend to have a client on the windows laptop making request to the mysql server on my debian pc |
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| 14:19.13 | __cool__ | then you need a sql-cable :) |
| 14:19.20 | thepro4ever | .... |
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| 14:19.36 | thepro4ever | _cool_ , don't send me into bestbuy asking for an sql cable |
| 14:20.07 | __cool__ | thepro4ever: for 2 pcs you can take a 'cross-over cat5 cable' to connect both machine's network ports (if they have one) |
| 14:21.06 | __cool__ | thepro4ever: or you need a cheapo ethernet switch (~5EUR/$) and *two* standard (non cross-over) cat5 cables |
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| 14:21.58 | jpinx-eeepc | I have a proxy server as part of the ISP "service" which does only http, and I need an idiots guide for how to send irc on 6667 over http on 8080. |
| 14:22.20 | __cool__ | thepro4ever: if the laptop is very modern and of certain brands, you may use one standard cable and the laptop will 'cross over internally'. refer to it's documentation for existence of this feature |
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| 14:26.23 | ToXBoT | jpinx-eeepc: #debian-offtopic |
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| 14:27.04 | jpinx-eeepc | ToXBoT: I'm there, if you have ideas ;) |
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| 14:30.40 | xev_ | hello, can I use fluxbox on Linux Mint Debian Edition? |
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| 14:30.56 | M`vy | Yes I guess |
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| 14:32.07 | xev_ | Oh, thanks M`vy..same with KDE and others? |
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| 14:33.49 | M`vy | I don't think there is a problem as soon as packages are available |
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| 14:39.58 | [XeN] | is now away: Hi, this is the answer mashine. Leave a message after the beep. Beep. |
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| 14:52.38 | metalfan__ | valdyn, just got off the phone with the server hosten, the server is a real one. |
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| 15:07.26 | superlinux | hi . how can I have invscout installed? |
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| 15:08.00 | superlinux | it's a command line thing |
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| 15:10.23 | jhutchins_lt | superlinux: It doesn't look like it's a debian package, so the question to ask is what does it do that you need, and how can you do that within Debian? |
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| 15:11.18 | superlinux | jhutchins, check this: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpublib.boulder.ibm.com%2Finfocenter%2Fpowersys%2Fv3r1m5%2Ftopic%2Fiphcg%2Finvscout.htm&rct=j&q=invscout&ei=gkqnTN2zFMiL4gb2-LjXDQ&usg=AFQjCNE-tw5dhlBPdGd-1uaR6hckJGevtA&cad=rja |
| 15:11.54 | superlinux | there is an exploit that can be run using this command. |
| 15:12.19 | superlinux | it can let u access the account "root" |
| 15:13.36 | jhutchins_lt | It's not a linux command, it's AIX. |
| 15:14.47 | WebDawg | when i do an encrypted LVM anyone know how to skip the random drive wipe? |
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| 15:17.34 | Martin_vW1 | Hi. When I want to setup a Debian server for routing, what's the preferred place to set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward? /etc/sysctl.conf? |
| 15:17.53 | Martin_vW1 | Or even better, /etc/sysctl.d/somefilename? |
| 15:19.10 | jhutchins_lt | Martin_vW1: rc.local |
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| 15:19.30 | jhutchins_lt | Martin_vW1: Actually, you probably want a routing and firewall script called from rc.local |
| 15:20.01 | Martin_vW1 | jhutchins_lt: hm, I just decided for sysctl.conf, because the line is already there, you just have to uncomment it... but yes, iptables would be the next question, right |
| 15:21.01 | jhutchins_lt | Martin_vW1: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ or http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/TrinityOS/cHTML/TrinityOS-c.html |
| 15:21.31 | jhutchins_lt | Martin_vW1: Ok, yeah, sysctl is correct for Debian; when I used to do that I was using a different distro. |
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| 15:24.42 | superlinux | jhutchins_lt, thanks. I was hoping I can find it open for linux |
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| 15:32.15 | qwd | Is there a way I can measure how long it takes to open a certain file? I have a comic compressed with rar and one in a .tar, I want to see if there is any difference. |
| 15:32.30 | BigRedS | time? |
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| 15:32.49 | BigRedS | depends what happens when hte file is open, and what you're opening it with. You can use time to measure the decompression, though |
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| 15:35.58 | metalfan__ | jhutchins_lt, hi...remember me from yesterday? the guy with the netstat pid problem |
| 15:36.36 | metalfan__ | jhutchins_lt, i used the support, they said that this is a real server. they look into the problem... |
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| 15:38.16 | SuperMiguel | is there a way to edit the rEDIt menu? like i have OSX and linux, but there are 2 linux icons there.. is there a way to delete one of them?? |
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| 15:38.40 | qwd | BigRedS: thanks! |
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| 15:50.03 | LinuxNIT | is there another way to view cpu speed other than via acpi? i have acpi=off set at the moment but i want to see what speed its running at |
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| 15:51.45 | Death4Life | Anyone knows why my server shuts itself down during the partitioning? |
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| 15:52.07 | xyan | LinuxNIT: it runs at its default clockspeed then, see /proc/cpuinfo |
| 15:52.41 | xyan | Death4Life: overheating? did you check fans and power cables and such? |
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| 15:53.26 | Death4Life | I don't think it's overheating |
| 15:53.33 | Death4Life | and it always happens during the partitioning |
| 15:53.52 | SPF | I'm forwarding eth0 to eth1. How can I see a list of active connections? I cannot see them in netstat. I'm using iptables for routing |
| 15:53.53 | LinuxNIT | xyan, so without acpi i cannot have speed stepping? |
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| 15:54.58 | Death4Life | xyan: could it be it's having issues with the RAID controller? but that shouldn't shut it down? |
| 15:55.11 | xyan | LinuxNIT: if theres another speedstep driver available besides acpi-cpufreq you can but most machines use acpi for that |
| 15:55.27 | LinuxNIT | xyan, the issue i am having on my laptop is that unless i boot with acpi=off, once the fan turns on it never tuns off again. do you know how to fix that? |
| 15:56.09 | xyan | Death4Life: a spontanous shutdown always sounds like a hw failure or something like that. maybe ram corruption as well or who knows run memtest see if you can get a diagnostic tool for the raid controller |
| 15:56.44 | Death4Life | is memtest included on the debian install disc? probably not? |
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| 15:57.28 | xyan | Death4Life: im not sure you can install it via apt though, or try to append memtest=1 to the kernel line theres a builtin memtest (not sure if debian enables it for the installer) |
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| 15:57.58 | xyan | LinuxNIT: what fan module are you using, check modinfo fan for its parms you can set fanon and fanoff values maybe |
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| 15:58.46 | Death4Life | ah, ctrl-alt-f4 seems to show me dmsg :) |
| 15:59.05 | LinuxNIT | xyan, i dont know, i was not aware of different fan modules or fanon fanoff values. |
| 15:59.13 | LinuxNIT | do you know of some documentation for it? |
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| 15:59.27 | LinuxNIT | ill need to reboot without the acpi=off to play with it |
| 15:59.33 | xyan | LinuxNIT: the linux kernel trees Documentation/ directory :) |
| 15:59.38 | LinuxNIT | greta |
| 15:59.39 | jhutchins | metalfan__: Thanks for the followup. |
| 15:59.42 | LinuxNIT | great |
| 15:59.47 | xyan | LinuxNIT: lsmod | grep fan |
| 16:00.08 | LinuxNIT | nothing right now cause acpi is off... bbiab |
| 16:00.16 | metalfan__ | jhutchins_lt, lets see what they find out |
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| 16:02.26 | LinuxNIT | fan 4048 0 |
| 16:02.27 | LinuxNIT | thermal_sys 15476 4 video,processor,thermal,fan |
| 16:02.27 | LinuxNIT | xyan, |
| 16:02.38 | xyan | so ok run modinfo fan and see what parms it have |
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| 16:04.07 | LinuxNIT | what am i looking for in that? |
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| 16:04.28 | xyan | i cant tell you i dont have that module :-) pastebin the output maybe |
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| 16:06.36 | LinuxNIT | http://pastebin.com/ixHCzuz0 |
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| 16:07.36 | xyan | :/ hrm no params available there, well |
| 16:07.54 | xyan | do you have a thermal_zone* dir in /sys/class/thermal/ ? |
| 16:08.02 | xyan | you can set trip_points there afaik |
| 16:09.00 | LinuxNIT | yes i have one |
| 16:09.04 | LinuxNIT | with trip point files |
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| 16:10.14 | LinuxNIT | trip_point_0_temp and _type 0 1 and 2 |
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| 16:10.52 | LinuxNIT | 114000 114000 and 70000 respectively |
| 16:10.53 | xyan | LinuxNIT: and the mode says kernel? |
| 16:11.04 | LinuxNIT | mode says enabled |
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| 16:11.16 | xyan | 114°C is quite high |
| 16:11.28 | xyan | i dont think you should turn of the fan at all then |
| 16:11.40 | LinuxNIT | those are the trip poins |
| 16:11.56 | LinuxNIT | my temp can be 27c and still be running full speed |
| 16:12.00 | xyan | oh ok |
| 16:12.04 | LinuxNIT | blowing cold air at me |
| 16:12.18 | xyan | there are cooling_device* dirs as well |
| 16:12.29 | xyan | you can echo 0 > cur_state to shut them off |
| 16:12.45 | xyan | figure out which one your fan is at first though |
| 16:13.18 | LinuxNIT | what happens if you echo > 0 cur_state into the proc one? |
| 16:13.19 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 16:13.47 | xyan | hrm should do an instant poweroff :) |
| 16:14.08 | LinuxNIT | :) |
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| 16:14.26 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.26 | LinuxNIT | bash: echo: write error: Exec format error |
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| 16:15.30 | xyan | LinuxNIT: are you root? |
| 16:15.33 | LinuxNIT | yes |
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| 16:16.32 | bio-tty | i try to find a file regex-0.12/regex.c in the debian source package for "ngrep" -- its not their, and i have a hard time finding out what dev-package i miss |
| 16:16.42 | xyan | documentation states the cur_state files as rw. sys mounted rw? |
| 16:17.07 | LinuxNIT | sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) |
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| 16:17.24 | xyan | looks fine |
| 16:17.26 | xyan | shrugs |
| 16:17.37 | LinuxNIT | well thanks for tryin |
| 16:17.39 | LinuxNIT | g |
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| 16:18.06 | LinuxNIT | ill keep this info in mind during my searching |
| 16:19.01 | xyan | LinuxNIT: http://pastebin.com/t7BhPP9L thats the kernels doc |
| 16:19.09 | xyan | good luck to you |
| 16:19.18 | LinuxNIT | thanks again |
| 16:19.53 | SPF | I'm forwarding eth0 to eth1. How can I see a list of active connections? I cannot see them in netstat. I'm using iptables for routing |
| 16:20.44 | xyan | SPF: tcpdump or more comfortable jnettop, iptraf |
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| 16:23.11 | eshat | How can i make dolphin list my partitions again ? |
| 16:23.18 | eshat | I removed them, but want them back :D |
| 16:23.45 | eshat | oh, they are back |
| 16:23.53 | eshat | but mounting them fails... |
| 16:24.06 | eshat | how can they be mounted automaticlly without using fstab |
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| 16:25.10 | eshat | ups wrong channel |
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| 16:37.38 | Rug | I need some help please. I am trying to install ktorrent. (1) why does it depend on pulse-audio & phonon & xine? (b) I get an error of "hash sum mismatch" how do I fix it? |
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| 16:39.29 | Bushmills | Rug: my guess is that it depends on those for audio and video previews |
| 16:39.55 | Rug | Bushmills: does it help that I dont want to do that? =) |
| 16:40.07 | Bushmills | hash sum mismatch may be due to a broken archive on server. |
| 16:40.31 | Bushmills | Rug: i'm afraid that the dependency handling doesn't do ESP |
| 16:40.36 | Rug | I would rather deal with a run-time error then a butt-load of dependancies |
| 16:40.52 | Rug | Bushmills: =) not yet |
| 16:41.01 | Bushmills | check out another torrent program. bittornado for example |
| 16:41.48 | Rug | Bushmills: yeah, this was just a temp fix anyhow. Should I switch to a different mirror? |
| 16:41.49 | Bushmills | rtorrent is also popular, and has no python deps |
| 16:42.05 | Rug | rtorrent does support DHT either |
| 16:42.16 | Rug | does *NOT |
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| 16:42.44 | Rug | Should I switch mirrors? |
| 16:42.54 | Bushmills | worth a try |
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| 16:44.27 | Rug | any suggestions? I have been using york.ca for many years. |
| 16:45.00 | b0nghitter | which is the best for simple current/total bw use, cacti or mrtg? |
| 16:45.26 | b0nghitter | something fairly simple to setup |
| 16:45.38 | karlpinc | b0nghitter: I go for cacti, on other's recommendations. |
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| 16:46.17 | b0nghitter | ok thanks, it looks prettier than mrtg anyway |
| 16:46.45 | karlpinc | b0nghitter: However, you only get 5 minute resolution, last I looked. You want something more fine grained you've got to get your own totals and integrate it into cacti. Not so hard, but you need to know rrdtool at that point. |
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| 16:47.24 | b0nghitter | cool, 5 min is fine :) |
| 16:47.49 | Bushmills | b0nghitter: munin is simple to set up, and comparable |
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| 16:48.24 | Bushmills | same as cacti, 5 minutes sampling interval |
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| 16:49.49 | Bushmills | b0nghitter: want a sample display of munin? |
| 16:49.50 | jhutchins_lt | Rug: Different mirrors aren't going to affect dependencies. You may want to try apt-get instead of aptitude, it's less sensitive to dependencies. |
| 16:50.06 | jhutchins_lt | Rug: Also check your configuration to see if "recommends" are being installed by default. |
| 16:50.15 | jhutchins_lt | Rug: (Usually they're not) |
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| 16:51.37 | pzn | How can I know if a USB device "got connected" using usb 1.1 or usb 2.0 at lenny? |
| 16:52.15 | pzn | Its been 4 hours that my external USB HD is doing backup... that is too much... and I suspect that it connected usb 1.1 :-( |
| 16:52.31 | pzn | backups take usually 80 minutes |
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| 16:54.46 | Rug | jhutchins_lt: I need a different mirror to avoid the SUM mismath error. I only use apt, |
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| 16:55.13 | jhutchins_lt | pzn: There should be something about it in dmesg |
| 16:56.11 | jpinx-eeepc | Rug: try apt-spy |
| 16:57.07 | pzn | jhutchins_lt, what does this mean? I connected usb-hd directly to pc... dmesg: [441450.997361] usb 1-2: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub |
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| 16:59.10 | jhutchins_lt | pzn: Sounds like your suspicions were correct - however, I presume this "hub" is internal? Is one of your ports not USB2? lsusb might tell you. |
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| 17:02.01 | pzn | jhutchins_lt, motherboard has 6 USB2.0 ports http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131324 |
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| 17:02.31 | _stefanos_ | Good evening everyone |
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| 17:02.42 | pzn | jhutchins_lt, could that be an usb1.1 cable? does cables have this specs? is usb1.1 cable different from usb 2.0? |
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| 17:03.27 | jhutchins_lt | pzn: wikipedia could tell you, but I don't think there's a significant difference. |
| 17:05.00 | BigRedS | pzn: i'm pretty sure all cable is usb2.2 compliant; it's the host or device that can be incompatible |
| 17:05.21 | BigRedS | well, need to negotiate to usb 1 |
| 17:05.32 | jhutchins_lt | It could also be that for some reason the drivers for the usb chipsets did not load correctly with 2.x support. |
| 17:07.35 | pzn | BigRedS, jhutchins_lt: motherboard is the same, connected usb plug is the same, usb-hd is the same. previously it was really fast, now it is slow. the only difference is the cable. I'll assume that I this new cable is bad or slow or does not comply to usb2.0... and replace the cable... |
| 17:08.09 | pzn | BigRedS, jhutchins_lt: it seems the only reason (or some apt-get update in lenny in the last 30 days)... |
| 17:09.35 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
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| 17:17.01 | elkclone | hey |
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| 17:18.44 | trebuchet | hey |
| 17:19.06 | MarceloVaz | jude |
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| 17:20.33 | rulus | Good evening. Currently twisted is broken in squeeze (cfr. bug 589539). Does anyone know how I can fix it, or when/if it will get fixed? |
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| 17:35.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, you have the bug report... if someone knows, he'll add to that report |
| 17:35.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | or he should... |
| 17:35.51 | pzn | BigRedS, jhutchins: it was the cable! replaced it and currently all running fast... but I think it was a defect. old cable had a usb2.0 compatible label on it. |
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| 17:36.39 | pzn | BigRedS, jhutchins: as always, if your debian system is with "strange behaviour", then you have a hardware problem :-) |
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| 17:37.00 | trebuchet | Hmmm, I'm planning on running Squeeze, what GPU should I buy for OpenGL games/DRI support? Nouveau doesn't look mature yet.. |
| 17:39.14 | b0nghitter | i followed http://edin.no-ip.com/content/snmp-rrdtool-cacti-debian-lenny-mini-howto and i have SNMP Interface stats working, except i get the "missing image" on the Total Bandwidth part |
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| 17:40.06 | b0nghitter | and the traffic for all the interfaces sasy nan |
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| 17:41.25 | b0nghitter | nvm, guess i just had to wait longer, |
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| 17:41.35 | b0nghitter | excellent. |
| 17:42.53 | b0nghitter | btw, cacti 0.8.7c is out... idk if they'll ever update the lenny package. i assume it would be as stable as 0.8.7b |
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| 17:43.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | rulus, on the other hand, nobody added to that bug since July... that looks to me as if it hasn't happened to many people |
| 17:43.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | you might investigate yourself a bit... the error itself doesn't seem very useful, though |
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| 17:45.00 | rulus | CutMeOwnThroat: no it doens't indeed, I'll try finding some more information |
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| 17:45.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | rulus, specifically from this thread... https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2002-March/015796.html |
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| 17:46.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | (look at the repiles, too) ... might happen on compiling the python into pyc/pyo |
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| 17:47.37 | rulus | CutMeOwnThroat: ah ok, I'll have a look in that direction |
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| 17:48.51 | M00R1Z | #ubuntu |
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| 17:54.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | rulus, dunno how useful that is... if that's something that only happened on _your_ system, because of some corruption on disk or whatever, that woulnd't work... but if it's reproducable, you could try to figure out in what version of what package the bug was introduced |
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| 17:55.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | rulus, you can can find pretty much all previous versions of packages in existance ever, if you follow the instructions in /msg dpkg snapshot |
| 17:56.33 | rozie | hello. need advice again |
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| 17:56.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | rozie, a dollar saved is a dollar earned |
| 17:56.59 | rozie | I would like my system always do pm-suspend-hybrid instead of pm-suspend |
| 17:57.00 | mplabs | Hello! Im here again. |
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| 17:57.38 | rulus | CutMeOwnThroat: well it should be fairly easy to reproduce, it happens every single time one imports twisted's ssl module |
| 17:57.45 | rozie | I know how to do it in an ugly way (symlink named pm-suspend to pm-suspend-hybrid) |
| 17:57.56 | mplabs | I couldnt find any old Squeeze bulild, is there any other plan to install it on my AMD64 ? |
| 17:57.59 | rulus | CutMeOwnThroat: even after purging and reinstalling both twisted and zope.interface |
| 17:58.05 | rozie | but haven't found nice way |
| 17:58.36 | rozie | searched in docs and on the net, but found nothing interesting |
| 17:58.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | doesn't that do exactly the same as "s2both"? |
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| 17:59.07 | rozie | CutMeOwnThroat: yes it does |
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| 17:59.16 | piklu | clear |
| 17:59.17 | piklu | ls |
| 17:59.21 | piklu | sorry |
| 17:59.45 | rozie | but I cannot use uswsusp - cannot restore from hibernation with it (bug posted) |
| 17:59.46 | jhutchins | mplabs: Why do you want squeeze? |
| 18:00.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | rulus, well, see how far back you can go with older versions of the packages you suspect... pure python packages should pose no dependency problems when going to older versions... usually, that is |
| 18:00.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell rozie -about apt-file |
| 18:00.22 | piklu | hey guys, i am trying to install dpkg for a package from a file, but a dependency of python-django is getting me nuts |
| 18:00.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | rozie, apt-file tells me: pm-utils: /usr/sbin/pm-suspend-hybrid |
| 18:00.31 | piklu | how shall i get it ? |
| 18:00.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | rozie, you haven't got that fileà |
| 18:00.45 | rulus | CutMeOwnThroat: whoa, reinstalling python-pkg-resources worked :) there must have been something wrong there |
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| 18:01.12 | rozie | CutMeOwnThroat: I have the file, but in LXDE I only have Suspend and Hibernate |
| 18:01.53 | rozie | and I'd like to use pm-suspend-hybrid |
| 18:02.07 | rozie | instead of pm-suspend |
| 18:02.14 | rozie | in a nice way |
| 18:03.15 | mplabs | jhutchins: I want Squeeze because it is the testing version right now, right ? |
| 18:03.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | rulus, hm, if you're confident that that's the same bug, you might reassign it to that package, describe that it's a runtime problem, and possibly even close it (or wait for the maintainer to close it) |
| 18:03.42 | jhutchins | mplabs: Well, yes, testing, broken. Works for some people, but not ready for production. |
| 18:03.56 | jhutchins | mplabs: If you want to help test it, great, but if you need a working system go with lenny. |
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| 18:04.48 | rulus | CutMeOwnThroat: okey, I will, thanks! |
| 18:04.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | rozie, you mean you're missing just the button? Guess can't help you there, I don't use many buttons... |
| 18:05.12 | sodhi | Hi guys. I get a segmentation fault when I use 'ls', which is the best procedure to fix this? (I've not messed with libc, but I assume it needs reinstallation anyways?) |
| 18:05.35 | mplabs | I know, but I want to install it and I cant with the build that is on debian.org now, so as I said here yesterday I was looking for an old image |
| 18:05.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | sodhi, ldd /bin/ls, look for unusual paths e.g. in /opt or /usr/local |
| 18:05.59 | mplabs | of about two weeks ago |
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| 18:06.25 | valdyn | sodhi: use debsums on the relevant packages |
| 18:06.42 | sodhi | I'm sorry, I'm new to linux, debsums? :) |
| 18:06.48 | sodhi | CutMeOwnThroat: seems like all paths are ok |
| 18:06.49 | rozie | CutMeOwnThroat: I guess it is somehow defined what action is used for given button |
| 18:07.04 | valdyn | sodhi: "apt-cache show debsums" |
| 18:07.07 | hidekazu | mplabs: You can use the 6.0a1 debian-installer |
| 18:07.18 | mplabs | can I ? |
| 18:07.26 | mplabs | I mean, will it work ? |
| 18:07.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | sodhi, if that doesn't help, try running it in gdb and type "bt" for a backtrace... that will only be really helpful, though, when you have debugging symbols in the important libraries used there |
| 18:07.38 | jhutchins | mplabs: Dunno, that's why it's called "testing" - you test it. |
| 18:07.42 | rozie | and I also wonder what will happen if I put pm-suspend-hybrid as one of the scripts run when pm-suspend is called |
| 18:07.43 | hidekazu | Yes, that is how I installed it. Then I done a full-upgrade to the latest |
| 18:07.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | jhutchins, or it tests you... |
| 18:07.57 | jhutchins | mplabs: What's wrong with the "current version"? |
| 18:07.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | and your patience |
| 18:08.14 | rozie | but it's better to ask first before doing something weird ;-) |
| 18:08.19 | mplabs | there is a bug, let me give you the url |
| 18:08.23 | sodhi | CutMeOwnThroat: It appears I can't even use apt-get, process halts after "Fetched ....." |
| 18:08.31 | hidekazu | It is also possible to install lenny, then upgrade to squeeze |
| 18:08.33 | sodhi | and I don't have gdb. |
| 18:08.39 | jhutchins | mplabs: Just a brief description was all I wanted. |
| 18:08.45 | mplabs | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=598130 |
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| 18:08.58 | mplabs | it is impossible to install it on AMD64, basically |
| 18:09.16 | mplabs | but it was working two weeks ago |
| 18:09.43 | jhutchins | sodhi: Sounds like you need to check your hardware. Reseat cards, connectors and memory modules, run memtest. |
| 18:09.58 | sodhi | jhutchins: Virtual server, I can't check bugger all :/ |
| 18:10.51 | jhutchins | mplabs: You could always use lilo - it's much more mature. |
| 18:11.02 | mplabs | oh, it doesnt work neither |
| 18:11.42 | jhutchins | sodhi: In that case, you need to report problems to your provider, it isn't running properly if it's segfaulting on you. You might need a different kernel because of the platform you're on, not sure how that looks when it's broken. |
| 18:11.43 | mplabs | yesterday I wrote to Lionel, the guy who reported the bug, to tell him that its not working doesnt matter what you try to install as your boot loader |
| 18:12.03 | hidekazu | mplabs: Try the 6.0a1 installer |
| 18:12.22 | jhutchins | mplabs: You should add that to the bugreport, not write the original reporter. |
| 18:12.28 | sodhi | jhutchins: I can request a reinstallation of the OS, but then I'd have to reinstall the packages I'm using. |
| 18:12.33 | sodhi | I guess I'm going to have to either way. |
| 18:12.44 | sodhi | Is there any way to see why apt-get halts it's process? |
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| 18:13.40 | mplabs | jhutchins: I know but I wrote him for other reason and it was not just about that |
| 18:13.48 | jhutchins | !tell sodhi about clone!tell sodhi about debian clone |
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| 18:13.58 | icebrain | how can I make Iceweasel read the new hosts file? I've restarted it, cleaned the cache, used DNS Flusher and it still doesn't show the right IP. Yet both dig and nslookup do. Suggestions? |
| 18:13.59 | jhutchins | ach... |
| 18:14.02 | mplabs | hidekazu: I will if I can find it |
| 18:14.15 | hidekazu | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 18:14.19 | jhutchins | !tell sodhi about debian clone |
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| 18:14.54 | hidekazu | There is a netinst CD available |
| 18:15.07 | mplabs | Last updated: 17th February 2010 |
| 18:15.11 | mplabs | it could be helpful, thank you |
| 18:15.20 | rking | icebrain: That's interesting. |
| 18:15.27 | sodhi | jhutchins: seems like a viable solution. Will it also store configuration files and such? |
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| 18:15.39 | sodhi | And what about programs not installed via the package system? |
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| 18:15.49 | sodhi | I realize dpkg won't work for those, but is there any smart way to back up those? |
| 18:15.50 | finaldata | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:16.01 | hidekazu | It doesn't matter if it is slightly older, you can full-upgrade. Installer also supports ext4 |
| 18:16.03 | sodhi | (I do not have aptitude on the box, so the alternative clone methods won't work for me) |
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| 18:16.07 | rking | icebrain: Try just moving ~/.mozilla to something like ~/tmp-mozilla and starting with a compeletely fresh user config |
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| 18:16.30 | rking | finaldata: Definitely. If they both have the same architecture it's even easy to do. |
| 18:16.33 | jhutchins | sodhi: Yea, make deb packages out of em! |
| 18:16.56 | jhutchins | finaldata: How did the kernel that's on your system now get there? |
| 18:16.56 | rking | finaldata: And even if they don't have the same architecture it's possible to cross-compile. But yeah, too easy. I recommend doing it the debian way, btw. |
| 18:17.00 | finaldata | hmmmm well its an x86 based thin client |
| 18:17.07 | sodhi | jhutchins: I'll google my way to a more exact answer.. Thank you very much for pointing me in the correct direction :) |
| 18:17.17 | finaldata | yes the thin client uses debian i think its the HP Thinpro image |
| 18:17.30 | mplabs | hidekazu: if I use the netinstall wont it use the last updates availables of all it needs to install ? |
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| 18:18.36 | jhutchins | finaldata: If it's a thin client then the kernel is on the server. |
| 18:18.49 | finaldata | nope nope its the kernel on the thin client itself :) |
| 18:18.51 | hidekazu | mplabs: Forgot about that. Yes, you should have the latest if you install from that. |
| 18:19.04 | finaldata | its like the base OS on the thin client |
| 18:19.06 | jhutchins | finaldata: Then how is it a thin client? |
| 18:19.12 | rking | finaldata: Give it a whirl doing the simplest approach possible. Worst case is you boot into recovery mode and try again. Looks like even cross-compiling is only a matter of a few flags in your kernel's make process (if you have gcc set up for cross-compiling) |
| 18:19.13 | sodhi | jhutchins: haha, seems I need checkinstall, which I don't have... :) |
| 18:19.15 | hidekazu | ... as it will download the latest packages. |
| 18:19.28 | mplabs | yes, I cant use it |
| 18:19.31 | finaldata | its like a 128mb image on a thin client that helps the thin client connect to a ctitrx server |
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| 18:19.59 | jhutchins | sodhi: No, checkinstall is just a wrapper for make, what you want is to go one step farther and build the packages as .deb's - which ain't gonna happen on a system that segfaults with ls. |
| 18:20.04 | icebrain | rking: nothing, still shows the old IP |
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| 18:20.19 | whochismo | Hello everybody. I've got a problem pinging my server from another computer using the hostname, it doesn't respond. However, pinging que IP address works perfectly. And I don't know where the problem is... |
| 18:20.34 | sodhi | jhutchins: so, no avail.. I'll just download the confs via FTP and use the dpkg trick for the regular packages. |
| 18:20.35 | jhutchins | sodhi: About the only possible fix that you'll be able to do is if a different kernel will solve the problem, but at this point it's mostly in your hosting company's hands. |
| 18:20.56 | finaldata | cool... now... once i have compiled the kernel besides the kernel image what other files do i need to copy to the target system |
| 18:21.08 | rking | icebrain: You could try running with: strace -e network -f iceweasel ... gonna be a lot of output but if you can get it to settle down and then watch what it does there might be clues. |
| 18:21.46 | jhutchins | finaldata: If you use the deb build process you'll have a whole package you can install - if the target's a debian compatible system. |
| 18:22.03 | icebrain | rking: yeah, it's an idea, thanks |
| 18:22.11 | finaldata | can you point a documentation for that jhutchins? thanks a lot! |
| 18:22.13 | whochismo | Does anybody why I cannot ping my debian server using the Hostname instead of the IP? |
| 18:22.35 | mplabs | Great! http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 18:22.44 | mplabs | 1 month ago |
| 18:23.01 | rking | icebrain: This guy on the web had success by going to File > Work Offline then File > (unmark) Work Offline |
| 18:23.05 | mplabs | it is what I need... or I hope so |
| 18:23.16 | rking | icebrain: I just use chromium, anyway. |
| 18:23.45 | icebrain | rking: meh, extensions > speed |
| 18:23.48 | rking | I have never been impressed with the quality of the Mozilla project's code. |
| 18:23.52 | hidekazu | mplabs: That is the lenny installer |
| 18:23.53 | jhutchins | finaldata: This isn't something I've had to do on Debian, but this might help. |
| 18:23.57 | icebrain | besides, chromium isn't very stable here |
| 18:24.07 | jhutchins | !tell finaldata about package recompile |
| 18:24.12 | finaldata | thanks |
| 18:24.15 | rking | icebrain: Like what extensions? (just curious what I might be missing out. Chrome has adblock and a couple others I consider essential) |
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| 18:24.43 | misk21 | hi |
| 18:24.45 | mplabs | ahm.. is it ? |
| 18:24.53 | misk21 | i use gnome. Can someone suggest me an application to associating the application for filetypes ? |
| 18:24.58 | mplabs | oh, no.. it is |
| 18:25.09 | jhutchins | finaldata: dpkg also recommends http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why substituting debian for openbsd. |
| 18:25.17 | finaldata | thanks a lot jhutchins |
| 18:25.48 | hidekazu | I suggest trying the 6.0a1 netinstall, then you should have an up to date squeeze system. It worked for me. |
| 18:26.48 | icebrain | rking: vimperator, greasemonkey, video download helper, DownThemAll and NoScript. This is what's always enabled, then I have Firebug, Cookie Exporter, Mobile Barcoder, Semantic radar, User Agent Switcher, YSlow and a couple of others that I enable when I need them |
| 18:26.53 | mplabs | hidekazu: are you on an AMD64 ? |
| 18:27.23 | hidekazu | mplabs: Yes. |
| 18:27.25 | mplabs | and when did you install it ? |
| 18:27.35 | hidekazu | A few months ago |
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| 18:27.58 | rking | icebrain: Thanks for typing those up. I've used most but there are a couple there I need to check out. Many do have chrome-equivalents, btw. |
| 18:28.17 | mplabs | well, the point is that its not working since few days ago |
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| 18:29.44 | icebrain | rking: yeah, but although chromium is faster, it's been less stable. Besides, I like Mozilla as a project, regardless of their technical merits. I won't choose them just for that, but it counts :) |
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| 18:29.58 | pyther | Hello |
| 18:30.17 | mplabs | and if I try with netinstall now it will use updates packages, I guess |
| 18:30.19 | pyther | I changed my dns server and restarted networking, now I can't ping google.com or anything else, but I can run nslookup |
| 18:30.22 | pyther | Any ideas? |
| 18:30.23 | rking | icebrain: In 2000 I liked Mozilla "regardless of their technical merits". This year I finally got tired of ignoring the constant glitchiness. |
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| 18:31.12 | rking | icebrain: I wonder why chrome is unstable for you. I've had unrelenting success with it on x86 32/64 under Linux and even Windows. |
| 18:31.17 | jhutchins | pyther: How did you change your dns server? |
| 18:31.31 | icebrain | rking: I don't experience it that much. Just some blocking of the browser overall when multiple tabs are loading, but I can live with it |
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| 18:31.43 | pyther | jhutchins: I changed /etc/network/interfaces and did /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 18:31.55 | rking | icebrain: But anyway, I'm still interested in figuring out the /etc/hosts thing... did the Work Offline trick do it? |
| 18:32.05 | jhutchins | rking: I've been suffering the bad code since it was called "mosaic", and some of the bugs I reported back then are still with us. |
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| 18:32.33 | jhutchins | pyther: Hm, not how I'm used to doing it, give me a moment. |
| 18:32.38 | icebrain | rking: chromium tabs die a few times per week. It's not terrible, but it's annoying. -- No, the Work Offline didn't do it. I'll try stracing it |
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| 18:33.02 | kexman | hello |
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| 18:33.14 | jhutchins | pyther: Specifically what did you cahnge in interfaces? |
| 18:33.28 | pyther | dns-nameservers 10.25.11.2 |
| 18:33.35 | pyther | how else am I suppose to change it? |
| 18:33.36 | kexman | im using a netinstall minimal cd image to install into a VM, and it cant find mirrors, probably no internet for the VM ... i went to console (used grafic installer) and no ifconfig ??? |
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| 18:33.43 | jhutchins | pyther: Are you on squeeze or something? |
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| 18:33.56 | pyther | jhutchins: no lenny |
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| 18:34.16 | rking | jhutchins: Truly impressive. I just remember being so happy to finally get an upgrade over NSN, but then constantly being plagued by data-loss and inconvenience crashes. When I opened the source I was aghast, and though I am maximally suspicious of Google, I'm breaking down. At least Chrome is open-source. |
| 18:34.16 | jhutchins | pyther: I see nothing in the man page about that being valid, although something seems to have picked it up. |
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| 18:34.54 | jhutchins | pyther: I've always made the changes directly to /etc/resolv.conf but that method is deprecated by new roaming capabilities. |
| 18:35.00 | mplabs | what is the 'di' and 'live' version ? |
| 18:35.02 | jhutchins | pyther: Still, it generally works. |
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| 18:35.47 | kexman | could anyone help me fix my netproblem in the debian installer ? |
| 18:36.00 | kexman | it has busybox on it and has no ifconfig ? |
| 18:36.13 | pyther | it seems as if ping still wants to use the old dns server |
| 18:36.31 | jhutchins | kexman: Which installer are you using? Which release? |
| 18:36.44 | kexman | debian-506-i386-netinst.iso |
| 18:37.21 | jhutchins | kexman: What's the host OS/Virtualizer? |
| 18:37.26 | kexman | windows |
| 18:37.31 | pikaro | Hi everybody, I did something stupid... my apple aluminium keyboard wasn't working correctly, so I patched my xkb rules with a patch I found here -> http://damienciabrini.blogspot.com/2009/05/make-your-apple-aluminium-keyboard.html . Unfortunately, that didn't make the keyboard work, but now the apple "Fn" key is mapped to "Insert" by default, which means I can't use my Fxx keys any more. Thus,I would like to reverse the patched config files in |
| 18:37.31 | pikaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.48 | jhutchins | mplabs: "di" is usually "Debian Installer" - currently very much alpha software in squeeze. |
| 18:37.52 | kexman | jhutchins: windows + virtualbox/bridged adapter, worked flawlessly with other installers |
| 18:37.53 | jhutchins | !live cd |
| 18:37.53 | dpkg | An operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue CD or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian has its own Live CD (http://live.debian.net/), ask me about <debian live>. http://www.livecdlist.com/ |
| 18:38.16 | jhutchins | kexman: You might find help in #virtualbox |
| 18:38.25 | jhutchins | kexman: Or forums. |
| 18:38.27 | kexman | jhutchins: how is this a virtualbox problem ? :) |
| 18:38.29 | pyther | hmm now I can ping vita, but not vita.ndcls.local :-/ |
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| 18:38.38 | kexman | jhutchins: i need to know how to see if i got an ip or not from the installer :) |
| 18:39.06 | kexman | jhutchins: i went to terminal mode / console whatever you call it ... and i got back busybox ... it has no ifconfig what else can i use ? |
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| 18:39.28 | jhutchins | kexman: Guess you need to know how to query network status in busybox. |
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| 18:39.50 | kexman | jhutchins: yes and i dont :) thats why i m here :) i tought someone knows :) |
| 18:40.06 | kexman | jhutchins: you know you can compile busybox with ifconfig if i recall it well :) |
| 18:40.08 | mplabs | Ok, thank you ! last question before to start installing it. if I use a netinstall of months ago, will I have the same problem that I have using the last build ? |
| 18:40.29 | icebrain | rking: damn... sorry! My fault! the ip for the www subdomain is different from the main one :| so stupid for not having though about it, meh |
| 18:40.46 | icebrain | and they redirect the main to the www |
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| 18:41.23 | rking | icebrain: Did you find that manually or did you just remember it? |
| 18:41.38 | mplabs | I mean, will it use absolutely everything updated ? if so I cant use it, otherwise it will work |
| 18:42.19 | icebrain | rking: I didn't knew they were different, but I remember they could be just now, so I tested it |
| 18:42.24 | eptalon | I am looking for a piece of sw that would be able to communicate using bluetooth, in sid. |
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| 18:42.37 | icebrain | (they could be = it's possible in dns) |
| 18:43.33 | icebrain | rking: thanks for your help, and sorry 'bout that |
| 18:43.46 | jhutchins | mplabs: Net install will use the current package repositories. |
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| 18:44.02 | rking | icebrain: Cool. I'm glad it's squared away now. =) |
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| 18:44.16 | jhutchins | mplabs: However, the installer itself is changing rapidly, and since your problem MAY be with the installer, it might work. |
| 18:44.36 | jhutchins | mplabs: Then again, I think it loads the majority of the install script from the mirrors - which would be current. |
| 18:44.51 | jhutchins | mplabs: dpkg told you about snapshot, that might be a way to do what you want. |
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| 18:45.10 | jhutchins | mplabs: Once again, though, I suggest you use lenny, and spend some time with lenny learning how Debian works. |
| 18:45.43 | mplabs | ok, thank you all ! |
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| 18:46.36 | eptalon | I am looking for a program that would allow me to push certain media files onto my mobile phone, eg. using bluetooth |
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| 18:47.07 | jhutchins | eptalon: What phone? |
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| 18:49.00 | eptalon | jhutchins: Samsung S3550. Has a micro-usb plug (I don't have a cable yet), and does bluetooth. |
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| 18:49.40 | kexman | configurin apt is this supposed to take long ? its been a while since the installer is stalling there .... |
| 18:49.52 | kexman | please wait ....... and the mirror i selected its localy in town |
| 18:50.09 | kexman | its a netinstaller |
| 18:50.17 | petemc | tty4 should have a log of what its doing |
| 18:50.23 | mplabs | jhutchins: you are right, maybe I should use Lenny but the last time I used it I had problems to install recent versions of some applications, I have to wait a lot to see big changes on my repos |
| 18:50.27 | eptalon | kexman: If its downloading it could take some time |
| 18:50.29 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | it seems epiphany is smoother than iceweasel / firefox.. : ) |
| 18:50.52 | kexman | eptalon: how do i know if its downloading or not ? |
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| 18:51.51 | eptalon | jhutchins: hence the question for a proggy that can use bluetooth for such things |
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| 18:59.19 | jhutchins | eptalon: check out "bluez" and the various utilities. The newer versions in backports appear to be incomplete and do not work with the KDE components. |
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| 19:00.12 | Viper | How do i install python 2.6 On debian? |
| 19:00.23 | jhutchins | Viper: You don't. |
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| 19:00.32 | Viper | Is there a way to install it? |
| 19:00.38 | kexman | how can i change the repository source in debian ? |
| 19:00.44 | jhutchins | Viper: We've had several people try, none were happy. |
| 19:00.53 | Viper | ok thank you |
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| 19:01.19 | jhutchins | Viper: The problem is that python is used throughout the system, and 2.6 is not very backwards-compatible, so installing it as the system default b0rks the system. |
| 19:02.05 | jhutchins | Viper: None of the people I have seen try a parallel install were able to get it to work because of the extensive libraries and related utilities. |
| 19:02.43 | stew | "pyversions -i" wouldn't know about 2.6, so none of the debian python-* packages would be byte compiled for the 2.6 version |
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| 19:03.45 | jhutchins | stew: Yeah, it's just a real cascade of failures no matter which way you go. |
| 19:04.33 | jhutchins | I've seen people do parallel installs of php, perl, and java, but I think python is just too systemic. |
| 19:04.35 | stew | Viper: 2.6 is the default in squeeze. but squeeze isn't yet released because it is buggy and with no security support |
| 19:05.31 | Viper | Thank You |
| 19:06.34 | Nepherius | how old is lenny ? |
| 19:06.43 | Nepherius | i mean when was it released ?:) |
| 19:08.01 | kwyjibo2 | Feb. 2009 |
| 19:08.27 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | Nepherius: 14th Feb, 2009 |
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| 19:09.04 | Nepherius | ok ,tks |
| 19:09.04 | kexman | debian minimal install = grub error 15 :) nice :) |
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| 19:16.00 | jhutchins | Nepherius: Latest update was September. |
| 19:16.49 | jhutchins | kexman: What hardware? |
| 19:16.49 | Bushmills | "(20:18:19) kexman: blindbox: okay thankx currently i have no option just to install a minimal debian system in a VM then apt-get needed packages and start building" ... grub in a VM? |
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| 19:20.14 | kexman | jhutchins: probably i messed up something retrying ... btw virtualbox VM |
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| 19:22.21 | sid3k | hi guys, google public dns is so slow at my home. is there better alternative? there should be a good alternative like 4.4.4.4 or sth |
| 19:22.27 | kexman | jhutchins: should i install grub into the mbr or where ? |
| 19:22.30 | sid3k | any ideas? |
| 19:22.43 | Bushmills | sid3k: run a local recursive name server |
| 19:23.01 | sid3k | Bushmills: how? |
| 19:23.27 | Bushmills | for example, a minimal maradns installation |
| 19:24.08 | Bushmills | skip all the "authoritative" stuff, just recursive. should be about 3 lines of config. |
| 19:24.44 | sid3k | hmm |
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| 19:25.23 | sid3k | Bushmills: do people use it for personal stuff? or is it a professional solution ? |
| 19:25.51 | sid3k | because I'm going to use it on mylaptop |
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| 19:26.17 | Bushmills | more frequently set up for LAN use than for single host, but it's perfectly allright for single hosts too. |
| 19:26.38 | Bushmills | i run one on my netbook :) |
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| 19:27.49 | sid3k | arright, thanks Bushmills |
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| 19:28.12 | Bushmills | maradns was suggested because of its small memory footprint. |
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| 19:30.09 | kexman | when would i need to use debian single user mode ? |
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| 19:30.34 | Bushmills | kexman: problem recovery, for example |
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| 19:33.25 | kexman | jhutchins: booted now correctly. |
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| 19:54.13 | spacepluk | I'm looking for an alternative to gnome-terminal, any suggestion? |
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| 19:57.08 | trebuchet | spacepluk: Xfce's Terminal. |
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| 19:57.52 | Bushmills | spacepluk: rxvt |
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| 19:58.26 | spacepluk | Bushmills: I'm tryint urxvt right now, but It looks like the debian package doesn't support 256 colors |
| 19:58.38 | trebuchet | spacepluk: It doesn't depend on gnome stuff except gtk and glib. |
| 19:58.52 | trebuchet | Oh, I like mrxvt. |
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| 19:59.47 | trebuchet | But then again, urxvt is sort of needed, I wish there was some sort of murxvt :P |
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| 20:01.13 | spacepluk | trebuchet: urxvt seems to be perfect for me except for the colors problem :) I don't need the tabs I prefer relaying on my wm |
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| 20:05.52 | trebuchet | GTK+ themes make me happy inside, so I stick to apps with those :3 |
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| 20:08.09 | nejucomo | When I run apt-get update, I see a gpg error with "KEYEXPIRED" and a long number. When I run "sudo apt-key list", none of the output contains that long number. |
| 20:08.17 | nejucomo | How do I determine which key is expired? |
| 20:08.36 | bob31 | anyone here working with non en_US or C locale? I'd like to know output of svn --version or hg --version when run with LANG=C. e.g. pt_BR. thanks |
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| 20:09.05 | SPF | I'm forwarding eth0 to eth1. How can I see a list of active connections? I cannot see them in netstat. I'm using iptables for routing |
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| 20:10.18 | UweBollsFunder | I need help setting up a Samba share (to be accessed from Windows Explorer), that requires a username and password to allow people to access the share. All my attempts so far have failed. Here is my share's configuration: http://www.pastebin.org/2858 which is clearly not working because despite forcing a valid user, I can access it and read the files without being prompted for a username or password. |
| 20:10.23 | LtL | SPF: 'netstat -tunap' should work |
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| 20:14.27 | magyar | hi, how can i get a 32bit app to run on amd64? |
| 20:14.38 | magyar | i use squeeze |
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| 20:19.53 | SPF | LtL: it doesnt show, it only shows a few connections |
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| 20:20.35 | LtL | SPF: just out of curiosity, are you root? |
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| 20:21.58 | LtL | SPF: try the -i <interface> flag |
| 20:22.16 | piklu | what is debian's replacement for chkconfig |
| 20:22.35 | dvs | magyar: if a 32bit app isn't working in an amd64 install, you're doing something funky. |
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| 20:23.11 | LtL | piklu: rcconf works well |
| 20:23.58 | magyar | dvs: i can't run 32bit application in 64bit OS ? |
| 20:24.39 | LtL | piklu: for specific runlevels use invoke-rc.d |
| 20:24.56 | magyar | i belive i can easily do this on windows 2008r2 server |
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| 20:25.54 | SPF | LtL: with the -i it is only 2 lines in the result |
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| 20:26.02 | dvs | magyar: it can but the program has to use the same version of the 32bit libraries |
| 20:26.52 | magyar | dvs: ok, how can i set that to happen? |
| 20:27.30 | dvs | magyar: you can't. you have to recompile the 32bit program. |
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| 20:29.00 | Tomm0s | what about ia32-libs? |
| 20:29.10 | LtL | SPF: are you sure the connections exist? do you see listening ports as you expected to see? |
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| 20:30.37 | magyar | dvs: i dont have the source code |
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| 20:31.20 | dvs | magyar: Then the 32bit program can't be run in that environment. |
| 20:31.48 | magyar | dvs, i run 32 bit apps in windows64 on daily bases |
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| 20:33.26 | dvs | magyar: This isn't windows |
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| 20:34.06 | dvs | magyar: and the program your trying to run wasn't compiled with the same versions of the libraries that you have |
| 20:34.55 | magyar | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/534 << that seems to work |
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| 20:41.42 | emerson | how to I install the freepascal compiler ? |
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| 20:41.53 | emerson | how do I mean... |
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| 20:42.30 | sauvin | On which OS? |
| 20:43.26 | mr_chris | I've installed on an iMac G3. It has an ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TR video card. X works but very sluggishly. Slow to drag. Terrible video performance. Anyone care to help me get it better. xorg.conf here http://pastebin.com/VEF14jKR |
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| 20:43.51 | mr_chris | I should mention that I did have video performance working very well on this same machine with Ubuntu Hardy so I know that it can do it. |
| 20:44.08 | cesurasean | can someone tell me where i can download the older php5-pgsql for lenny 6? |
| 20:44.15 | piklu | LtL: rcconf does not runs with mine |
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| 20:44.32 | xemacs4321 | I am setting up lvm2 home on squeeze system, i have lvm created, but cant get /etc/fstab to mount the partition at boot time, pointers of any helpful hints ? |
| 20:44.41 | emerson | how do I install the freepscal compiler ..? |
| 20:44.59 | LtL | piklu: is it installed? |
| 20:45.16 | sauvin | emerson, on which OS? |
| 20:45.18 | trebuchet | xemacs4321: It should have error output in a logfile, or maybe you could boot it in rescue mode and see it from a holographic terminal. |
| 20:45.47 | piklu | LtL: i doubt so, actually i am having high memory usage, how to detect which process is taking memory |
| 20:46.11 | xemacs4321 | trebuchet, looking |
| 20:46.17 | LtL | piklu: in a terminal, use 'yop' or htop |
| 20:46.28 | LtL | piklu: sorry, 'yop' |
| 20:46.32 | LtL | top |
| 20:46.38 | LtL | ugh |
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| 20:47.11 | trebuchet | xemacs4321: I would compile all this information together, then structure it for either submission as a question/dialog in IRC, or a mailing list post. Problems with mounting LVM volumes can have a lot of factors involved. |
| 20:47.20 | cesurasean | can someone please help me out? |
| 20:47.40 | xemacs4321 | trebuchet, I can mount it by hand |
| 20:47.51 | trebuchet | cesurasean: The package may not be available, and if it isn't you could try to install Lenny's or compile it yourself. |
| 20:48.05 | xemacs4321 | trebuchet, I am almost sure it is ordering problem |
| 20:48.21 | trebuchet | xemacs4321: I am thinking the same thing. |
| 20:48.38 | trebuchet | You should post dmesg/syslog/fstab somewhere. |
| 20:48.53 | trebuchet | Oh, brb |
| 20:49.06 | xemacs4321 | when i find it i will file bug report |
| 20:49.37 | piklu | htop, runs but not clear |
| 20:50.14 | LtL | piklu: use 'top' |
| 20:50.40 | cesurasean | trebuchet, why would the package not be available? |
| 20:50.53 | cesurasean | is there anyway to find out the version that was packed with lenny6? |
| 20:50.58 | cesurasean | so i can google the package? |
| 20:51.16 | piklu | i see sshd use most |
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| 20:52.46 | LtL | piklu: sshd should not be using much cpu or mem unless you have a ton of connections |
| 20:53.08 | piklu | LtL: as far as i know i am the only one |
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| 20:54.24 | LtL | piklu: how much is it using? cpu? |
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| 20:55.08 | piklu | LtL: i rebooted it, my 500MB was being used.....now its back to 64MB |
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| 20:56.12 | LtL | piklu: when the box first starts, it is busy for a few minutes but should always settle down. |
| 20:56.24 | emerson | sauvin:lenny.. |
| 20:57.41 | piklu | LtL: another server is showing similar aspects |
| 20:57.47 | piklu | no diskspace left there |
| 20:58.46 | LtL | piklu: df -h to see disk usage |
| 20:59.03 | emerson | sauvin: so what do I have to do ? |
| 20:59.32 | LtL | piklu: install rcconf and stop services you don't need. |
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| 21:01.34 | ficthe | hi, could someone tell me how I would start gtk-themeing? ultimately I want to do something very simple: just change the scroll bars (to something very simple). |
| 21:01.42 | ficthe | I am on debian lenny |
| 21:02.20 | LtL | piklu: for testing, you can use /etc/init.d/<service> stop to kill the service, rcconf will change the symlinks to /etc/init.d/ services. |
| 21:02.27 | emerson | anyone can help to install the compiler for pascal ? |
| 21:03.36 | andares | hey, what's the easiest way to build i386 on x86_64? |
| 21:03.45 | andares | do I need to set -march or something in my CXXFLAGS? |
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| 21:05.13 | LtL | emerson: try apt-cache search pascal. looks like you want gpc |
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| 21:08.01 | andares | also is there a way I can use aptitude to install from sid, but only to use sid if tell it to? |
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| 21:08.29 | piklu | where is SSH connection log on debian |
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| 21:09.47 | LtL | piklu: /var/log/auth.log |
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| 21:10.22 | markit | hi, any manteiner here of the VoIP stuff, asterisk in particular? |
| 21:10.42 | markit | italian prompts are very very old, new ones are available, but no one included, wondering why |
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| 21:12.54 | LtL | piklu: you can monitor auth.log in real time with, 'tail -f /var/log/auth.log' as root. |
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| 21:15.31 | _Techie_ | i have a debian VM that refuses to allow me to authenticate for SSH using my RSA key, it works perfectly fine on Ubuntu and CentOS |
| 21:15.43 | _Techie_ | is there anything different about debian that would cause this? |
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| 21:16.40 | _Techie_ | ive followed this guide, http://www.howtoforge.com/set-up-ssh-with-public-key-authentication-debian-etch |
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| 21:16.54 | Nashenas | 88 |
| 21:16.54 | markit | anyone in #debian-devel too, that can forward my question, please? |
| 21:16.58 | nanomachine | is away: I'm busy |
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| 21:17.13 | markit | I've already tried ML time ago, but no one replied |
| 21:17.43 | Nashenas | what file would I modify to turn off the system beep when the login screen comes on? |
| 21:18.00 | nanomachine | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 21:18.25 | Tramp | !tell nanomachine -about away |
| 21:18.35 | Nashenas | I know I can put "xset b off" in my shell, and that I can also put it in my bash startup script, but how would I make it turn off before I even logon? |
| 21:19.20 | LtL | Nashenas: in system/preferences/sound/ system beep menu. not sure of the file, somewhere in /etc |
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| 21:20.20 | Nashenas | LtL: thanks |
| 21:20.21 | LtL | Nashenas: do you mean POST beep? |
| 21:20.40 | LtL | Nashenas: welcome |
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| 21:21.23 | msr01 | Evening everyone, I'm trying to get a sweex pu203 working under debian testing, it's a pciexpress sata controller using the sil3132 chipset, the system can't seem to find the card and google has turned up either very old articles or nothing interesting at all |
| 21:21.25 | Nashenas | LtL: still doesn't fix it. For example, if I log out, and then the login screen appears, there's a beep |
| 21:21.30 | _Techie_ | please dont respond to me question, i have resolved the problem |
| 21:21.55 | LtL | Nashenas: X would likely need a restart. |
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| 21:22.13 | msr01 | I'm not sure how to proceed or if I can do anything about it at all (I'm a fairly new linux user with moderate skills I guess) |
| 21:22.15 | andares | hey, what's the deal with the lack of mulitilb packages? |
| 21:22.25 | Nashenas | Ltl: I know I have to go to tty1, but what command do I have to enter to restart X? |
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| 21:22.47 | andybiker | Hi, |
| 21:22.55 | andybiker | any users in uk? |
| 21:23.01 | LtL | Nashenas: startx I believe |
| 21:23.22 | paradigm | LtL: that will start it if it's not already running, but if it's running that won't stop the current one |
| 21:23.30 | msr01 | hmm I might be wrong |
| 21:23.42 | msr01 | it might be known but I'm not sure |
| 21:23.47 | andares | like, does debian even care about developers? :/ |
| 21:24.10 | LtL | paradigm: ok, I didn't realize it was running. |
| 21:24.15 | andybiker | What is the current debian kernel? |
| 21:24.21 | paradigm | 2.6.26 |
| 21:24.28 | andybiker | is that all? |
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| 21:24.33 | paradigm | for stable, yeah |
| 21:24.35 | LtL | Nashenas: keep asking, i've forgotten that one |
| 21:24.46 | paradigm | next version of debian will be 2.6.32 |
| 21:24.47 | andybiker | Blimey, that is pre-war! |
| 21:25.04 | andybiker | 32 is a bit more like it |
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| 21:25.06 | andares | where the heck are all the 32-bit packages? |
| 21:25.13 | andares | for mulitilb? |
| 21:25.19 | andares | *multilib |
| 21:25.36 | paradigm | andybiker: Debian stable usually has older packages than most distros, doesn't update quite as often. |
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| 21:26.06 | paradigm | There's a number of ways to get access to newer packages from Debian stable, though |
| 21:26.17 | andybiker | Saddam Hussein was still in power when 2.6.26 came out, I'm sure... |
| 21:26.43 | paradigm | I'm sure 2.6.32 will look anchient when Debian Squeez+1 comes out, too |
| 21:27.01 | paradigm | You can get a newer kernel through Debian backports |
| 21:27.04 | paradigm | or compile it yourself |
| 21:27.18 | Nashenas | LtL: I figured out how to restart it, but that doesn't solve my problem |
| 21:27.37 | Nashenas | does anyone know how to completely turn off the system beep from ever beeping? |
| 21:27.51 | paradigm | Nashenas: yes, 1 sec |
| 21:27.52 | Nashenas | I know the command is `xset b off`, but I don't know what file to put it in |
| 21:28.00 | paradigm | Nashenas: there's another way that may work better for you |
| 21:28.11 | Nashenas | paradigm: what would that be? |
| 21:28.15 | andybiker | Nashenas, the beep is a reassurance that all is well. You can take some cutters to your speaker... |
| 21:28.16 | paradigm | You can keep Debian from loading the system beep drivers |
| 21:28.33 | paradigm | Nashenas: I'm sadly in windows, gimme a sec to load up a Debian box, don't rememebr off the top of my head |
| 21:28.48 | xyan | Nashenas: edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, add blacklist pcspkr and blacklist snd_pcsp there |
| 21:28.49 | andybiker | windows? what is windows? |
| 21:28.59 | Nashenas | xyan: thanks, I'll try that |
| 21:29.00 | paradigm | Hey I'm not proud of it |
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| 21:29.10 | paradigm | yeah, what xyan said |
| 21:29.11 | andybiker | googles windows |
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| 21:29.31 | andybiker | holes in walls, usu with glass in frames |
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| 21:29.35 | diabel | Hello |
| 21:29.40 | paradigm | hi |
| 21:30.17 | andybiker | If you boot windows, surely you'll break it. |
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| 21:31.52 | Nashenas | xyan: thanks, it works perfectly now |
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| 21:32.10 | msr01 | noone can offer help on this? |
| 21:32.42 | paradigm | msr01: not familiar with the hardware yuo mentinoed, sorry |
| 21:33.25 | msr01 | :/ |
| 21:33.38 | xyan | msr01: whats the pci id of that controller? |
| 21:34.04 | msr01 | I'm looking at that right now |
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| 21:35.20 | msr01 | the id is what exactly? |
| 21:35.34 | msr01 | teh xx:xx.x in lspci? |
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| 21:35.46 | xyan | msr01: nope [xxxx:xxxx] in lspci -nn |
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| 21:36.22 | marshallmc | how do i benchmark my computer from the command line? (disk, memory, cpu...) |
| 21:36.50 | msr01 | I'm not even sure it's in hre, which is odd |
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| 21:36.59 | _Techie_ | is there any reason why key authentication would work with a 1024 bit key and not a 3072bit key? |
| 21:37.15 | xyan | marshallmc: prime95, bonnie++ ... |
| 21:37.21 | marshallmc | ty xyran |
| 21:37.23 | msr01 | best bet would be [1095:3132] |
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| 21:37.26 | xemacs4321 | who ever i was talking to about lvm2 not mounting on boot, problem solved, works find now had bunch of packages with status rc from dpkg -l , purged them completely and reboot, lvm mounted fine !! |
| 21:37.34 | msr01 | though that could easily be the mobo controller |
| 21:37.39 | xyan | judd: pciid 1095:3132 |
| 21:37.40 | judd | [1095:3132] is 'SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller' from 'Silicon Image, Inc.' with kernel module 'sata_sil24' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1095:3132 |
| 21:38.15 | xyan | msr01: so whats wrong with the controller? |
| 21:38.30 | msr01 | well I've got 3 sata controllers |
| 21:38.37 | msr01 | the mobo which works |
| 21:38.44 | msr01 | the pci controller which works |
| 21:39.00 | msr01 | and this pciexpress controller which works under windows but doesn't seem to work under linux |
| 21:39.08 | msr01 | plugging drives in does nothing |
| 21:39.13 | msr01 | dev doesn't show anything |
| 21:39.18 | emerson | Ltl: how do I do that ? |
| 21:39.31 | diabel | Why when I want to install KDE4 apt install kde3? |
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| 21:39.39 | _Techie_ | is there any reason why key authentication would work with a 1024 bit key and not a 3072bit key? |
| 21:39.44 | xyan | msr01: did you check dmesg/syslog for error messages? is the driver correctly loaded? |
| 21:39.44 | xemacs4321 | trebuchet, you still here, problem solved ^^^^^ |
| 21:39.59 | msr01 | I was actually hoping there was some easy fix for it, but I should probably check shit better tomrrow before doing more |
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| 21:40.25 | msr01 | there could be a cable problem or something, it's a new system I built a few weeks ago |
| 21:40.35 | msr01 | and I haven't used the controller in question since |
| 21:40.41 | xyan | msr01: uh yeah look at the logs, maybe that thing needs firmware or something? cable problem is unlikely if it works in windows isnt it? |
| 21:40.57 | msr01 | well it worked in windows but not in the same hardware setup |
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| 21:41.41 | trebuchet | xemacs4321: Oh, back. |
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| 21:42.46 | xemacs4321 | trebuchet, did my solution help should i follow up with bug report ? |
| 21:43.11 | trebuchet | cesurasean: Look here: http://debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages |
| 21:43.18 | trebuchet | xemacs4321: I just got back let me read... |
| 21:43.19 | LtL | emerson: have you used the search function? there are a couple of gpc packages, gpc and gpc-4.1 |
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| 21:44.35 | trebuchet | xemacs4321: Well if you think it is a bug, as I'm not completely sure of everything that happened, then you should. But if it was a user error or it was failing after a fresh install with debian-installer, it may be worth a bug report. It can't hurt. |
| 21:44.54 | trebuchet | However, xemacs4321, what does "packages with status rc" mean, release candidate? I haven't used debian in a long time. |
| 21:45.06 | LtL | emerson: the docs are a separate package also which 'aptitude install gpc' may possibly include for you, but first decide what you want, eg. aptitude show gpc |
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| 21:45.12 | trebuchet | Makes me think some init or rc.conf thing. |
| 21:45.48 | SPF | LtL: yes I'm sure |
| 21:46.02 | xemacs4321 | trebuchet, user error, bad init files not purged when removed by updates |
| 21:46.49 | _Techie_ | is there any reason why key authentication would work with a 1024 bit key and not a 3072bit key? |
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| 21:47.23 | xemacs4321 | trebuchet, rc I think means not active anymore, but config files still there |
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| 21:47.46 | acu | marius07_, marius |
| 21:47.47 | msr01 | xyan: nothing in the log that looks wrong though I'm not good at reading / understanding it ^^; |
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| 21:47.56 | msr01 | anyways I'm gonna halt this till atleast tomorrow |
| 21:48.09 | msr01 | 23.50 is not a good time to start looking for stuff like this |
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| 21:49.36 | xemacs4321 | trebuchet, dpkg -l , showed status of package as "rc ...... packagename ......" |
| 21:50.11 | emerson | Ltl: right so I suppose to have a compiler already ? |
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| 21:51.19 | iveqy | hi, after upgrading to squeeze and installing xserver-xorg |
| 21:51.27 | iveqy | my keyboard refuse to work in X |
| 21:51.44 | trebuchet | xemacs4321: Hmmm, well I don't know the whole situation. Maybe an info bug report if you can repeat the problem would be _awesome_, as people googling could find it if they had the same problem. Plus, you would be doing more than most people when it comes to open/free software :-) |
| 21:52.02 | iveqy | I got a lot of Internal error: Could not resolv keysym *** from X |
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| 21:52.28 | xemacs4321 | will file bug, under so if it repeats some has trail |
| 21:52.32 | LtL | emerson: it's not installed by default I don't believe, the 'build-essential' package may include it though, otherwise browse and install what you prefer. i recommend you aptitude install build-essential in any event. |
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| 21:53.28 | emerson | LtL: I typed apt-get install and it's running right now .. |
| 21:53.39 | emerson | LtL: thanks man ... |
| 21:53.54 | LtL | emerson: you're welcome |
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| 21:54.21 | Nashenas | I just install the fglrx driver using module-assistant, how can I make sure it installed correctly? |
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| 21:54.53 | Nashenas | basically, I need to check if I have xgl working so I can run compiz |
| 21:55.38 | andares | does Debian not have multilib? |
| 21:55.41 | andares | like, seriously? |
| 21:55.52 | andares | because I'm having to install a bunch of deb packages manually and it's really annoying. |
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| 21:57.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | Nashenas, xdpyinfo / look at the X log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 21:57.34 | andares | :/ nobody here is very helpful. |
| 21:57.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | andares, you shouldn't _have_ to "install a bunch of deb packages manually" |
| 21:57.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's what apt is for |
| 21:57.42 | eagles0513875 | andares: you have to be patient |
| 21:57.53 | eagles0513875 | hey guys is anyone in here using ssh keys on debian lenny |
| 21:57.54 | andares | I'm sorry, I've just been at this for like an hour. |
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| 21:58.10 | andares | CutMeOwnThroat: I need to install the 32-bit versions of libraries to /usr/lib32 |
| 21:58.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | !wayttd andares |
| 21:58.11 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, andares? |
| 21:58.14 | eagles0513875 | cuz i am having an interesting issue wiht 3072bit keys not working with lenny for some reason is that a know bug |
| 21:58.21 | andares | so that I can get my 32-bit version of zsnes to run. |
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| 21:58.37 | emerson | LtL: sorry to bother you again but I have to run it using the terminal, am I right ? |
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| 21:58.46 | eagles0513875 | andares: your on 64bit and you want to run a 32 bit app |
| 21:58.53 | andares | yeah. |
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| 21:59.05 | eagles0513875 | andares: install ia32-libs |
| 21:59.18 | eagles0513875 | that does the trick for 32bit apps for me on ubuntu when im on it hehe should do the same for you |
| 21:59.30 | LtL | emerson: yes thats correct, you can however use 'synaptic' in X if you want. |
| 21:59.31 | emerson | LtL: sorry man ask those question that might sounds silly for you but I need to use it properly.. |
| 21:59.39 | andares | eagles0513875: okay, I'll give it a try. :) |
| 21:59.53 | LtL | emerson: quite alright |
| 22:00.05 | andares | eagles0513875: hm, it wants libdirectfb now. |
| 22:00.27 | eagles0513875 | andares: just run sudo apt-get install ia32-libs and that should pull those libs and all of its dependencies |
| 22:00.33 | eagles0513875 | instead of using dpkg to install or what ever you are using |
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| 22:01.03 | LtL | emerson: a bit of advice, in a terminal, aptitude is better/safer that apt-get, but you'll be fine. |
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| 22:01.46 | andares | eagles0513875: it doesn't have it. |
| 22:01.49 | Nashenas | what package do I need to install in order to use modprobe? |
| 22:01.49 | andares | No current or candidate version found for ia32-libdirectfb-1.2-0 |
| 22:01.58 | eagles0513875 | O_o |
| 22:02.12 | eagles0513875 | andares: im not sure but ia32-libs is what you want for sure |
| 22:02.12 | andares | Nashenas: you already have it. try running it as root. |
| 22:02.13 | emerson | LtL: I never know the difference between both as you can see it I'm a freshman... |
| 22:02.15 | andares | it's just not in your path. |
| 22:02.25 | andares | eagles0513875: so... the build system is broken or something? |
| 22:02.46 | LtL | Nashenas: you should have it, 'whereis modprobe' or which modprode |
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| 22:03.29 | eagles0513875 | humm i dunno i use ubuntu more but i have a vm with debian on it |
| 22:04.33 | andares | :( |
| 22:04.53 | LtL | emerson: aptitude and apt are basically the same but aptitude resolves dependencies where apt sometimes does not. |
| 22:05.16 | Nashenas | LtL: for some reason it doesn't work with sudo, I had to login asroot |
| 22:05.42 | Nashenas | when I wasn't logged in as root, it would tell me that it didn't exist, which made me really confused |
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| 22:06.23 | LtL | Nashenas: your environment changes when su'd to root. |
| 22:06.26 | emerson | emerson: thanks once again...I have to learn how to program in pascal and I have no much time to do that ... |
| 22:07.01 | LtL | emerson: cheers :) |
| 22:07.29 | andares | what do the numbers after library files mean? |
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| 22:07.45 | andares | like, I have libdirectfb-1.2.so.0 installed, but not .so.9. |
| 22:08.04 | Nashenas | what log file do I go to to view logs that are output to tty1? |
| 22:08.37 | themill | andares: /msg dpkg soname |
| 22:09.34 | andares | so what do I do if the suffix doesn't match? |
| 22:10.40 | andares | because my package is missing, like, 10 shared libraries. |
| 22:10.53 | themill | "my package" meaning what? |
| 22:11.17 | themill | hopes for a concise summary rather than having to read however many hours of scrollback |
| 22:12.49 | andares | ohhhhhhhhh... I think ia32-libs is broken. |
| 22:13.04 | andares | themill: I'm trying to get zsnes to run. I cross-compiled it with pbuilder. |
| 22:13.48 | andares | zsnes depends on libdirectfb-1.2.so.9, but ia32-libs provides libdirectfb-1.2.so.0, so it seems ia32-libs is broken. |
| 22:13.55 | themill | !zsnes |
| 22:13.55 | dpkg | ZSNES is an emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. Source released under the GNU GPL on April 2nd 2001. Not portable to non-i386 architectures due to it being 67.2004% i386 assembly. For difficulties involving audio, ask me about <zsnes sound>. http://zsnes-docs.sf.net/html/faq.htm http://zsnes.com/ #zsnes on irc.freenode.net. See also <snes9x>. |
| 22:14.11 | andares | I'm not porting it, I'm running it as 32-bit. |
| 22:14.24 | andares | I compiled it into a 32-bit executable, which I'm attempting to run. |
| 22:14.37 | themill | andares: it would be easier to run it inside a chroot |
| 22:15.02 | andares | themill: I think pbuilder gets erased every time I exit though. |
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| 22:16.35 | themill | pbuilder is just a builder that uses a chroot, it doesn't actually make the chroot and there's nothing stopping you from making a new one (or using your existing chroot) |
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| 22:18.15 | andares | I'm not sure how though. |
| 22:18.29 | andares | also apparently I don't have a framebuffer device. that's odd. |
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| 22:20.06 | themill | andares: and yes, ia32-libs is a horribly broken mess at the best of times. The sid version _might_ be better than the squeeze version. There's a reason it hasn't moved from sid to squeeze, however. |
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| 22:20.46 | andares | hm, okay. |
| 22:20.51 | andares | a chroot is probably a better idea. |
| 22:21.04 | andares | how do I get the fb0 device though? |
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| 22:22.55 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 22:23.06 | lenswipe | im configuring lenny to auth against a domain |
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| 22:23.23 | lenswipe | how do i specify wether i want to login to a local account or a domain account?> |
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| 22:26.54 | sodhi | jhutchins: If you're still there, thanks for the help earlier. I got it figured out (well actually, I requested a reinstallation of the OS after making a backup of what was needed) :-) |
| 22:30.15 | andares | is there a way to get the files installed by a package? |
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| 22:32.55 | Coweater | andares: dpkg --listfiles package-name |
| 22:33.57 | andares | hm. also, do you know what I'd need to have mounted in a chroot for that chroot to be able to connect to the X server? I've made sure /dev and /proc are mounted. |
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| 22:38.36 | Nashenas | is eclipse in the debian repositories? |
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| 22:40.31 | f8l | Nashenas: Yes. |
| 22:40.43 | StyXman | is tehre any tool like mtr but that leaves a final report? I tried 'mtr --report --report-count 10 ip' but when it finishes it doesn't leave anything |
| 22:40.45 | Nashenas | f8l: what's the name of the package? |
| 22:41.01 | f8l | Nashenas: Err... eclipse? |
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| 22:41.10 | Nashenas | fel: doesn't exist on lenny |
| 22:41.21 | Nashenas | f8l: not on lenny* |
| 22:41.27 | themill | it was removed from lenny a while back |
| 22:41.47 | themill | !dbugs 574356 |
| 22:41.51 | dpkg | DONE:#574356:N[release.debian.org] RM: eclipse -- RoM; incompatible with stable's xulrunner, not easily fixable (lenny); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:09:05 UTC [] |
| 22:41.53 | f8l | Nashenas: That's true. |
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| 22:48.45 | Nashenas | if I want to use apt-get to install all packages that start with tcl, how would I write it? |
| 22:49.03 | Nashenas | I'm writing apt-get install tcl*, but that also matches packages with tcl in the middle of the name |
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| 22:49.46 | DDRP | Maybe apt-cache search tcl | cut -d ' ' -f 1 | xargs aptitude install |
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| 22:50.56 | themill | Nashenas: "aptitude install ~n^tcl" (but I'm not sure you'd really want to do that) |
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| 22:55.09 | edju | in squeeze - just ran update and received the autoremove message. it's ready to remove 91 packages! sdparm? why sdparm? anyone else get this? |
| 22:55.26 | Nashenas | themill: I don't want to, just wondering how I could do something like that |
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| 22:59.55 | jpinx-eeepc | what's the most elegant way to infreeze/restart my x session - I am currently in tty1 and tty7 is just blank |
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| 23:00.09 | Nashenas | invoke-rc.d gdm stop |
| 23:00.16 | Nashenas | then invoke-rc.d gdm start |
| 23:00.21 | Nashenas | assuming you're using gnome |
| 23:00.26 | Nashenas | for kde replace gdm with kdm |
| 23:00.43 | jpinx-eeepc | ok thanks - lets see... |
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| 23:02.02 | jpinx-eeepc | Nashenas: neat - perfect - thanks |
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| 23:03.09 | Nashenas | jpinx-eeepc: no problem |
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| 23:13.16 | themill | Nashenas: aptitude has all sorts of tricks like that. It has a very powerful search syntax and any searches can also be used with operations such as install/remove/download etc. |
| 23:13.32 | themill | Nashenas: "/msg dpkg aptitude search" for more info. |
| 23:13.50 | Nashenas | themill:thanks |
| 23:13.55 | Nashenas | themill: thanks* |
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| 23:15.42 | Tomm0s | is there some documentation as to how the squeeze boot process works? |
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| 23:16.21 | Infin1ty | weird, i went into rescue mode to extend a logical volume, it went fine, then fsck after this went fine, restarted back, but now it can't find /dev/md1 (which the LV Is on) |
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| 23:23.22 | Cheets | hi |
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| 23:25.23 | Gijs | hey all |
| 23:25.38 | Gijs | my server was rebooted and now my mysqld is not starting anymore |
| 23:25.47 | Gijs | Can anybody help me solving this problem? |
| 23:25.55 | Cheets | what do the logs say |
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| 23:26.31 | Gijs | i have no idea, it looks like it is not logging |
| 23:26.51 | Gijs | the config file of mysqld is saying it outputs errors in syslog but theres nothing about mysql |
| 23:26.54 | Cheets | try starting the service manuallyu |
| 23:27.09 | Gijs | what do you mean? |
| 23:27.24 | Cheets | run /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
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| 23:27.59 | Gijs | fr:/etc/mysql# /etc/init.d/mysqld start |
| 23:27.59 | Gijs | Starting mysqld: [ OK ] |
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| 23:28.24 | Gijs | but then if i use ps aux | grep mysql it returns nothing (so it is offline)) |
| 23:29.05 | pyther | I can ping fiatlux which resolves to PING fiatlux.ndcls.local (10.25.11.2); but if I do ping fiatlux.ndcls.local ping says ping: unknown host fiatlux.ndcls.local |
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| 23:30.18 | Gijs | Cheets? |
| 23:31.17 | Cheets | have a look in syslog |
| 23:31.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | pyther: how is it resoving? hosts file, dns server? |
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| 23:31.48 | Cheets | Oh, anyone use StrongSwan by the way? successfully |
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| 23:32.01 | Gijs | oh here is the err log :S |
| 23:32.01 | Gijs | http://pastebin.com/wkV4r7mj |
| 23:32.25 | pyther | Kamping_Kaiser: dns server, but if I run dig or nslookup it lookups successfully |
| 23:33.21 | Cheets | Gijs: reinstall it maybe the file will come back |
| 23:33.37 | Cheets | but backup the data first! |
| 23:33.46 | Gijs | reinstall mysqld? |
| 23:33.59 | Cheets | yeah |
| 23:34.08 | themill | Gijs: how did you install mysql? That doesn't look like the debian package. |
| 23:34.28 | Gijs | directadmin installed it |
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| 23:34.48 | Cheets | right im going to bed |
| 23:34.49 | Cheets | nn |
| 23:34.55 | Gijs | ... |
| 23:35.05 | themill | "directadmin"? |
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| 23:35.11 | Infin1ty | How can i recreate my mdadm conf file? i can see it works in rescue mode, but it seems it's messed up :\ |
| 23:35.29 | Gijs | its a web control panel |
| 23:35.33 | Infin1ty | i added a new drive to raid5 array, ot finished resyncing i issued i a reboot but now it can't assemble /dev/md1 |
| 23:35.39 | Gijs | it worked perfect but after a reboot it is just f*cked uo |
| 23:35.41 | Gijs | up* |
| 23:36.02 | themill | Gijs: you're on a debian system... using the debian packages is going to be a much better idea than whatever weird things that panel is installing. |
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| 23:36.47 | pyther | Kamping_Kaiser: if I ping the ip address I don't have a problem |
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| 23:38.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | ping might be complaining about the .local, but i don't know |
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| 23:39.48 | themill | pyther: do you also have mdns listed in /etc/nsswitch.conf? |
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| 23:40.30 | pyther | themill: no, do I need to? |
| 23:41.35 | pyther | hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 |
| 23:41.38 | pyther | actually that is what I have |
| 23:41.47 | themill | pyther: hmm... depends how you want to go about negotiating the ".local" domain. If you want it to be automagical then yes (avahi/zeroconf/etc). If you want to do it manually as it sounds like you do, then no, you shouldn't have mdns in there. |
| 23:42.17 | themill | pyther: basically, having mdns in that line means that .local is farmed out to avahi and your dns server doesn't get the query. |
| 23:42.35 | pyther | ahh what does mdns stand for? |
| 23:42.38 | themill | If you'd picked any other name than .local, you'd not have this problem. |
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| 23:43.05 | themill | "multicast DNS" |
| 23:43.22 | pyther | themill: ahh so kinda like netbios? |
| 23:43.53 | themill | *shudder* |
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| 23:44.41 | pyther | themill: that did the trick, thanks! |
| 23:44.47 | themill | np |
| 23:44.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | :) |
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| 23:45.31 | pyther | I should read up on multicast dns and learn how it works |
| 23:46.27 | themill | Yeah, I think the same quite regularly.... about all I know is how to disable it when it gets in the way like this⦠|
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| 23:48.23 | Infin1ty | is update-initramfs -u will reread my mdadm.conf file? |
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| 23:48.41 | bzed | Infin1ty: yes. it will copy all necessary files again |
| 23:49.03 | Infin1ty | phewwwww |
| 23:49.05 | Infin1ty | system loads again :) |
| 23:49.33 | Infin1ty | i added a new drive into my raid array, but i didn't update the initramfs, so it complained it can't find, though i can see it in rescue, so i just updated the initramfs from rescue :) |
| 23:49.52 | Infin1ty | thanks :) |
| 23:52.15 | Nashenas | so when I play a video and I have compiz running, is that compiz's fault for the messed up video or is it my video driver? |
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| 23:53.06 | Infin1ty | Nashenas, probably compiz, and probably some weird configuration needed for it to run in peace |
| 23:53.35 | Nashenas | =/ either way I can't get the dvd to play back correctly, I'm giving up for now |
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| 23:54.00 | Nashenas | the strange part is that I can see the dvd menu perfectly, but the video plays back with lots of random garbage |
| 23:54.08 | Nashenas | as if only half of it is being decoded correctly |
| 23:54.20 | Infin1ty | which video card? |
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