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| 00:07.03 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 00:07.11 | lenswipe | whats the default run level for debian? |
| 00:07.13 | lenswipe | is it 5 or 2? |
| 00:08.23 | medusaXX | 2 |
| 00:09.27 | stew | (grep default /etc/inittab) |
| 00:09.46 | lenswipe | stew, i have it on good authority that its 5, is this correct? |
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| 00:11.12 | dondelelcaro | lenswipe: no |
| 00:11.31 | lenswipe | dondelelcaro, shit, im setting up a terminal server and in the ltsp config i set the default run level to 5 |
| 00:11.34 | lenswipe | is that bad? |
| 00:11.38 | dondelelcaro | lenswipe: doesn't matter |
| 00:11.42 | lenswipe | ??? |
| 00:11.56 | dondelelcaro | lenswipe: by default in Debian, runlevels 2-5 are equivalent |
| 00:12.10 | lenswipe | ok |
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| 00:12.25 | dondelelcaro | medusaXX: hrm; you should have a disk and there are a few other entries which are missing from that dev filesystem; does /dev/.udev exist? |
| 00:12.38 | medusaXX | it exists |
| 00:12.55 | dondelelcaro | medusaXX: have you tried booting with a Debian standard kernel and initrd? |
| 00:12.59 | medusaXX | but udevd warned me when it came up that there already exists /dev/.udev in the static file system |
| 00:13.02 | medusaXX | no |
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| 00:13.39 | dondelelcaro | medusaXX: well, that's going to be a problem. If that's the case, then it usually won't modify the symlinks or anything. You also have a ton of pty links, which is unusual |
| 00:13.53 | dondelelcaro | medusaXX: try booting with a stock kernel and initrd and see if that works. |
| 00:14.21 | medusaXX | hm |
| 00:14.30 | medusaXX | i need to modify the boot sector for that |
| 00:14.36 | medusaXX | which i cant without access to the device |
| 00:15.05 | medusaXX | i need to create a device node with mknod right? |
| 00:15.22 | dondelelcaro | in the interim, yes, you can create the device nodes with mknod |
| 00:15.26 | lenswipe | anyone know how to connect to ltsp with windows? |
| 00:15.33 | medusaXX | k alright |
| 00:15.38 | medusaXX | i'll try that |
| 00:15.51 | medusaXX | and perhaps i can delete /dev/.udev in the root file system |
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| 00:17.48 | medusaXX | ok reboot |
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| 00:39.44 | rking | Isn't there a way to configure the button on a tower to refuse to turn the computer off? My 3 year old keeps thinking the light is cool, pressing it, and I come back to a very quiet room. I know I can just pull the pins from the motherboard, but it seems like there's a way to do it in software. |
| 00:40.35 | jordanm | rking: some BIOS allow a for delay or no delay. Have not seen an actual "disable", but if it is there, I would expect BIOS configuration |
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| 00:41.24 | stew | rking: you probably can just pull the lead off the mother board that is connected to the power button. but this is really a question for ##hardware |
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| 00:41.29 | jordanm | usually you can set it so it requires holding the button for 3 seconds. also, the power switch should be easy to disconnect... but then good luck turning it on! :) |
| 00:41.47 | rking | jordanm: I was thinking that it might be all the way down at the BIOS. It seems like somewhere years ago I had it set to do something other than shutdown, or at least it was set to shutdown gracefully, I just can't remember |
| 00:42.30 | rking | stew: Well, that part is easy... I was just wondering if anyone knew of a linux config option at some level that would do it without resorting to such brute means. |
| 00:43.28 | linux_probe | check this jordanm http://anothersysadmin.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/disable-the-power-button-event-in-debian/ |
| 00:44.03 | rking | Ahh, there we go. Thanks l_p. |
| 00:44.04 | linux_probe | thats an older article, but i think it still applies for ACPI function to catch and disable it's function |
| 00:44.32 | linux_probe | most of the distros capture the function and either shutdown or so whatever |
| 00:44.53 | linux_probe | that's not to say that a press and hold still wont cause hardware powerdown |
| 00:45.12 | jordanm | ah, I see. when pressed once, it sends a signal to shutdown, which can be ignored. however, if you hold the button down, I don't think it will prevent that. still good for his needs |
| 00:45.32 | jordanm | rking: /etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh appears to be the name of the file in squeeze |
| 00:45.41 | rking | linux_probe: Well, it's weird though... if it's easy to do I don't know why the default distro doesn't at least run a "sync" before shutting down. I see plenty of fsck's from powerbutton shutdowns |
| 00:46.03 | linux_probe | well, not sure about debian default |
| 00:46.35 | rking | For one I don't have acpi-support-base installed. |
| 00:46.44 | linux_probe | i suppsoe if acpi isnt right and installed |
| 00:47.33 | linux_probe | well with no acpi, i dont think it knows or reads the power button exists |
| 00:47.45 | linux_probe | therefore you'll get instant hardware poweroff |
| 00:48.17 | linux_probe | or push and hold for about 4 seconds if it's set as so in bios |
| 00:49.00 | rking | Yep, I don't blame it for not working without the package any more than I'd blame it for not listening to port 80 without a web server |
| 00:49.51 | linux_probe | maybe get a normaly open momentary, pushbuttom and mount it on the back of case out of kids reach |
| 00:50.05 | linux_probe | leave front case button unhooked ? |
| 00:50.43 | rking | Yeah, not bad. |
| 00:51.10 | rking | I could probably just tape over (or disable) the LED and make it much less interesting. But I think the acpi package will do the trick. |
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| 00:52.43 | linux_probe | i've used momentary "key" switches also |
| 00:53.26 | linux_probe | but as thats more "hardware" related, i'll leave off there |
| 00:53.54 | ibonci | is there a way to tell flash to use hardware acceleration besides the screen option |
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| 00:54.18 | ibonci | its slow like ant |
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| 01:38.20 | vee | huh, i guess i was told right; there are a few people here |
| 01:39.00 | vee | anybody awake? |
| 01:40.53 | ibonci | yea |
| 01:40.56 | fignew | no |
| 01:41.07 | fignew | well |
| 01:41.09 | Zharf | maybe |
| 01:41.10 | fignew | maybe |
| 01:41.10 | ibonci | i cant help you tho |
| 01:41.12 | fignew | hah :P |
| 01:42.13 | vee | =D |
| 01:42.25 | vee | just hopped on the screen area and it said i cannot send, oh well |
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| 01:42.44 | vee | tring to figure out why my .screen file's defscrollback does not work |
| 01:43.25 | vee | wonderin if it's a bug in my ver or user error'd config |
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| 01:47.07 | vee | where are these guru's that're able to help, there a particular time thats better? |
| 01:47.35 | fignew | how is it not working? |
| 01:48.31 | vee | got my defscrollback 10000 but when i open it up i get 1 line in the buffer |
| 01:48.56 | fignew | 1 line in the scroll buffer? |
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| 01:48.58 | vee | if i do the ^a : to get command line for screen, i can type in scrollbuffer 10000 and it gets set |
| 01:49.33 | vee | yea the ^a [ for the copy select/ scroll back buffer (forgive me if i make up words to name things) |
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| 01:50.16 | fignew | ok |
| 01:50.19 | fignew | so restart screen |
| 01:50.32 | vee | is attempting to get my screenrc into pastebin or something |
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| 01:50.45 | vee | restarted a few times, still no go after i reopen it |
| 01:50.52 | fignew | C-a i |
| 01:51.12 | fignew | well |
| 01:51.24 | fignew | first make some output |
| 01:51.27 | fignew | then run that |
| 01:51.34 | fignew | what is the num after the +? |
| 01:51.50 | vee | +1 |
| 01:52.11 | fignew | hah |
| 01:52.13 | vee | if i do the C-a : type in scrollbuffer 10000 then it changes to +10000 |
| 01:52.27 | vee | but only on that screen window |
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| 01:56.53 | vee | http://v33kahn.pastebin.com/izLRVZLQ |
| 01:57.05 | vee | the .screenrc ii'm using |
| 01:58.35 | vee | goes 1/2 afk as i go nuke some foods |
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| 02:05.07 | vee | any idea fignew or you doin better more exciting things? :D |
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| 02:22.22 | fignew | hah |
| 02:22.26 | fignew | I'm stumped |
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| 02:23.15 | fignew | really quiet in here though... |
| 02:23.35 | fignew | ...too quiet *shifty eyes* |
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| 02:27.03 | nobarking | what is the lightest desktop environment available for Debian? |
| 02:27.26 | simonrvn | lxde, if you want desktop |
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| 02:27.43 | nobarking | simonrvn: lxde seems like it depends on xfce a lot? |
| 02:27.55 | nobarking | and xfce depends on gnome |
| 02:27.59 | simonrvn | there's a few wms that have built-in features like a menu |
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| 02:28.30 | simonrvn | no it doesn't depend on gnome, lxde doesn't depend on xfce. i don't know where you get those ideas. |
| 02:28.55 | nobarking | when i was using a distro with lxde |
| 02:29.07 | nobarking | what about enlightenment? |
| 02:29.29 | simonrvn | something else |
| 02:29.52 | nobarking | what environment is crunchbang using? |
| 02:30.02 | k- | !nobarking: woof! woof! |
| 02:30.12 | simonrvn | why would i know that? |
| 02:30.12 | nobarking | i heard they are moving to debian |
| 02:32.07 | xuser | looks like openbox from their site |
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| 02:34.54 | chmeee | Anyone here use debian on ppc? |
| 02:35.24 | jordanm | !ppc |
| 02:35.25 | dpkg | [powerpc] PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 02:35.41 | jordanm | chmeee: the guys in #debianppc do I would assume |
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| 02:35.49 | chmeee | d'oh |
| 02:37.15 | fignew | chmeee: I do :) |
| 02:37.43 | chmeee | fignew: I'm trying to install on a G5, but it's failing with yaboot |
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| 02:38.06 | fignew | chmeee: failing to install yaboot? |
| 02:38.19 | chmeee | the yaboot package is installed |
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| 02:38.31 | chmeee | But it's failing with installing the actual bootloader |
| 02:38.33 | gnarface | i'd like to know how to optimize tcp/ip for high-latency links (like satellite) - is this possible? |
| 02:38.54 | chmeee | Because /proc/scsi/scsi doesn't exist, so it can't translate the ofpath |
| 02:39.52 | fignew | yea, not sure if I can help with that |
| 02:39.59 | fignew | haven't worked with sata disks :/ |
| 02:40.14 | chmeee | Is there anything like ofwdump on linux? |
| 02:40.38 | fignew | device=/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/ata-4@1f000/disk@0: <-- that's my device line |
| 02:40.54 | fignew | chmeee: yes I believe |
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| 02:42.33 | rafuch0 | can someone point me into a document that explains that mouting points of partitions like nodev noexec noatime .... and that stuff thanks a head |
| 02:42.54 | fignew | chmeee: ofpath might be of use? |
| 02:43.10 | gnarface | rafuch0: different filesystems have variations. check the man page for the filesystem you're using |
| 02:43.11 | fignew | like the util |
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| 02:43.38 | chmeee | fignew: ofpath is useless for this. It needs /proc/scsi/scsi, which was deprecated and removed |
| 02:43.42 | rafuch0 | ummm rally .... so what is the man page of ext3 |
| 02:43.46 | gnarface | rafuch0: also just to make sure you don't get confused, those are "mount options" not "mount points" |
| 02:43.56 | chmeee | I want something that just scans the of device tree and prints the properties |
| 02:44.18 | chmeee | So that I don't need to reboot the machine, go into open firmware, get the path, and go through the whole thing again |
| 02:44.34 | k- | rafuch0: what does it stand for? |
| 02:44.43 | fignew | chmeee: sorry, not sure. |
| 02:44.54 | chmeee | okay, thanks anyway |
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| 02:47.07 | un214 | at this point I am simply waiting for next debian stable to clobber my ubuntu with it |
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| 02:47.11 | gnarface | rafuch0: the global options as well as the filesystem-specfiic options for all the supported filesystems should be in your "mount" manpage |
| 02:47.17 | un214 | since they are in deep freeze that shouldn't be too long |
| 02:47.38 | rafuch0 | gnarface: thx lets check |
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| 02:49.35 | rafuch0 | nice nice gnarface.... |
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| 02:50.14 | gnarface | rafuch0: man pages are your friends |
| 02:50.41 | gnarface | rafuch0: when man pages fail you the next best place to check is /usr/share/doc |
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| 02:51.10 | rafuch0 | the other day ... i found a nice doc at tldp but i didnt bookmarked and the bvrowser history is juts pure caos |
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| 02:53.38 | gnarface | tldp tends to be dated and missing important distro-specific information |
| 02:54.19 | gnarface | its a noble cause but your debian system is sufficiently self-contained as far as documentation goes. you just have to learn where/how to look |
| 02:54.20 | jordanm | its hit and miss.. some are quite good, but others really poor |
| 02:55.38 | gnarface | for stuff that isn't in the man pages or in /usr/share/doc i have found http://www.debian-administration.org/ to be incredibly useful |
| 02:56.17 | jordanm | I would hit the reference manual before that howto site |
| 02:56.31 | gnarface | sure, i agree with that |
| 02:56.40 | nobarking | how can i request to have this in debian by default: http://lovingthepenguin.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-font-rendering-in-debian-squeeze.html? |
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| 02:56.51 | gnarface | i guess i ignore the reference manual a lot because i'm already familiar with it |
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| 02:58.30 | karlpinc | nobarking: You use the bug tracking system. |
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| 02:58.52 | nobarking | karlpinc: how likely is it going to be accepted? |
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| 02:59.31 | gnarface | nobarking: since squeeze is already frozen, probably the chances are somewhere between 0 and none |
| 02:59.41 | gnarface | nobarking: try getting it added to sid instead |
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| 03:00.16 | jordanm | nobarking: I would say not very likely. those patches need to be contributed to upstream |
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| 03:06.00 | qq- | compiling smt, get ' rtai_shm.h: No such file or directory' but rtai_shm.h is in /usr/include , any ideas ? |
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| 03:06.33 | qq- | and mlocate find it too |
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| 03:07.53 | jordanm | qq-: full build log |
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| 03:09.49 | qq- | jordanm, after that make stop .. |
| 03:10.28 | jordanm | I want to see what comes before |
| 03:10.59 | gnarface | suspects ubuntu or pebkac |
| 03:12.17 | jordanm | doesn't normally suspect that sort of things from #d regulars |
| 03:13.01 | gnarface | autoconf bug in smt ? |
| 03:13.17 | gnarface | is a noob |
| 03:14.05 | qq- | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.47 | jordanm | my guess was going to be something lame hard-coded into configure.in/am. I have even seen some build failures where the error message is totallyh off. eg. it fails to find libsnmp and reports to output "failed to find geoip" |
| 03:15.35 | gnarface | jordanm: rtai_ulapic.c could have a hardcoded path to rtai_shm.h that is wrong too, no? |
| 03:15.55 | gnarface | er, rtai_ulapi.c i meant |
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| 03:16.48 | jordanm | yeah |
| 03:17.09 | jordanm | qq-: what does line 66 say? |
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| 03:18.52 | qq- | rtai_ulapic.c is 'classic' > http://paste.debian.net/95970/ |
| 03:20.17 | jordanm | I would expect the preprocessor stuff to be at the begining, not on line 66? |
| 03:20.27 | jordanm | although, if it has a long copyright header I suppose... |
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| 03:22.37 | qq- | 66 is #include <malloc.h> , till line 56 are header |
| 03:23.41 | jordanm | the Makefile is joyfully omitting the typical output... such as the gcc command given to produce the error |
| 03:24.09 | jordanm | qq-: I would check with upstream |
| 03:24.39 | qq- | jordanm, yes, thanks you |
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| 03:48.52 | aveng3r | can I log-in with gdm with empty password? |
| 03:49.31 | nsadmin | I dunno :) can you? try a new user and see |
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| 03:49.58 | nsadmin | if it turns out you can't, why would that be? gdm config maybe? |
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| 03:50.41 | aveng3r | I never used gdm before =\ |
| 03:50.53 | b0nghitter | i think updating clamav has caused my system to stop sending emails |
| 03:51.33 | b0nghitter | on lenny-security |
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| 04:37.23 | joako | I am PXE booting debian and it works fine on some machines, but on others it fails to get a dhcp lease on boot, how cna I correct this? |
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| 04:45.00 | sweetpi | joako: It would help if you stated the nic(and number of them) and dhcp server you are using. along with relevant log entries |
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| 04:47.02 | CryptoMole | noodles900 now I like that nic hehe |
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| 04:55.39 | Bushmills | joako, to correct that, you first determine the reason of the problem. based on that, you decide on the steps to fix the problem. |
| 04:56.38 | joako | Dell GX520 does not boot over network, other computers do. |
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| 05:01.25 | joako | On the Dell GX520 machines (multiple) I get this: http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5794/img0276e.jpg |
| 05:02.06 | jordanm | joako: I think that card requires proprietary firmware |
| 05:02.14 | joako | On the other machines where it's working I get this: http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/4781/img0277b.jpg |
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| 05:02.29 | jordanm | joako: oh wait, I see your problem |
| 05:02.29 | joako | But the other machine is also a Dell (GX270) and also has tg3 card |
| 05:02.32 | jordanm | joako: thats not debian |
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| 05:05.30 | jordanm | !tell joako about ubuntu |
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| 05:13.58 | arnuld | I have Debian on my Primary Slave and CentOS on my Primary Master and I am using CentOS's grub to boo into Debian |
| 05:14.08 | arnuld | getting Error 2: Bad file or directory |
| 05:14.19 | arnuld | when 2ns HDD is slave |
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| 05:43.00 | CryptoMole | I miss the-Etch |
| 05:44.42 | CryptoMole | hey all you cool debian people |
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| 05:44.51 | CryptoMole | haha |
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| 05:46.04 | CryptoMole | how many democrats do we have in here from the USA |
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| 05:47.37 | CryptoMole | antivigilante: I want to know what you stand up for |
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| 05:48.32 | jordanm | !tell CryptoMole about ot |
| 05:48.33 | antivigilante | ? |
| 05:48.49 | CryptoMole | ot? |
| 05:48.53 | jordanm | !ot |
| 05:48.53 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 05:48.53 | CryptoMole | well |
| 05:49.15 | CryptoMole | yeah I know off topic |
| 05:49.41 | antivigilante | i'm there |
| 05:49.42 | jordanm | CryptoMole: also, I believe there is a #politics |
| 05:49.54 | CryptoMole | how nice |
| 05:50.30 | antivigilante | nope |
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| 05:50.48 | antivigilante | no #politics it might have moved to other network |
| 05:51.10 | jordanm | antivigilante: its ##politics |
| 05:51.11 | CryptoMole | figures dam liberals |
| 05:51.22 | jordanm | your client must not redirect properly |
| 05:51.36 | antivigilante | it took me to namespace |
| 05:51.38 | antivigilante | ## |
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| 05:51.53 | CryptoMole | hmm |
| 05:52.14 | CryptoMole | well I can always search it out |
| 05:52.39 | CryptoMole | but thanks |
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| 05:53.32 | CryptoMole | have to go back to wrecking the house |
| 05:53.36 | CryptoMole | hehe |
| 05:53.59 | CryptoMole | remodeling |
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| 06:25.20 | Bab123 | I have some questions about shell scripting - is this the right forum? |
| 06:25.55 | courpse | Try #bash |
| 06:25.58 | courpse | perhaps. |
| 06:26.08 | Bab123 | i am using sh shell, not bash |
| 06:26.51 | Bab123 | very basic questions |
| 06:27.05 | Bab123 | i am just trying to learn basic shell scripting |
| 06:27.19 | Bab123 | i have seen some scripts which do if [ somecondition ] |
| 06:27.28 | Bab123 | others do if [[ somecondition ]] |
| 06:27.34 | Bab123 | i.e. 2 square brackets or 1 |
| 06:27.51 | Bab123 | i am trying to figure out what's the diff between using a single square bracket or 2 square brackets |
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| 06:29.16 | courpse | http://www.ooblick.com/text/sh/ perhaps. |
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| 06:34.16 | simonrvn | Bab123: [[ ]] is a bashism |
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| 06:34.47 | simonrvn | Bab123: using [[ ]] will confuse dash (default sh in debian) |
| 06:35.40 | Bab123 | so this is correct -> if [ $a == "hello"] && [ $b == "test" ] |
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| 06:36.18 | simonrvn | use the [ ] form yes |
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| 06:37.35 | Bab123 | thank you simonrvn |
| 06:37.43 | simonrvn | np |
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| 06:40.01 | Delaya | whats would be best port of debian for i686? |
| 06:40.31 | arnuld | Debian is on my primary slave HDD |
| 06:40.36 | arnuld | and I can't boot it |
| 06:40.58 | arnuld | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:41.05 | arnuld | is there but GRUB can't find it |
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| 06:43.12 | yahya69 | arnuld: What is in /boot/grub ? |
| 06:44.04 | arnuld | many files (including menu.lst) |
| 06:44.21 | arnuld | u meant debian HDD's /boot/grub or primary HDD of CentOS's ? |
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| 06:45.39 | arnuld | I boot from Primary HDD CrntOS and have added entry for Debian there |
| 06:45.45 | yahya69 | arnuld: the Debian install, of course |
| 06:46.19 | yahya69 | arnuld: What version of Debian? |
| 06:46.33 | arnuld | yahya69: Lenny Stable |
| 06:46.53 | yahya69 | aha, so if there is a grub, it is grub 0.9x |
| 06:47.30 | arnuld | how does it make a difference |
| 06:48.09 | yahya69 | They are completely different and their command syntax is so, too. |
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| 06:49.00 | yahya69 | if you have the same version of grub on both installs, what you can do is to simply load the configfile with the configfile command, even if Debian did not properly install its bootload into the boot sector |
| 06:49.35 | yahya69 | arnuld: e.g.: configfile (hd1,1)/boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 06:50.06 | yahya69 | but of course, the newer grub cannot process a configfile in the old syntax and vice versa |
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| 06:51.07 | arnuld | I can easily boot into Debian using only Slave HDD |
| 06:51.12 | arnuld | if I remove the Master |
| 06:51.20 | arnuld | so it means GRUB is installed properly |
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| 06:52.03 | arnuld | CentOS has grub v 0.97 |
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| 06:53.21 | arnuld | so I dont get what the issue is |
| 06:53.31 | arnuld | GRUB says error 2 |
| 06:53.40 | arnuld | BAd file or directory |
| 06:53.59 | arnuld | when I put both HDDs and tried boot into Debian |
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| 06:55.38 | arnuld | http://pastebin.ca/1960692 |
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| 07:02.57 | sako | hey guys so i need a newer versin of git |
| 07:03.10 | sako | how would i get a backport of this |
| 07:03.24 | sako | or should i just compile from source |
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| 07:18.17 | simonrvn | !backports |
| 07:18.17 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 07:43.35 | jelly-home | ,versions git-core |
| 07:43.37 | judd | Package git-core on i386 -- etch: 1:1.4.4.4-4+etch4; etch-security: 1:1.4.4.4-4+etch4; etch-backports: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny2~bpo40+1; lenny: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny3.1; lenny-volatile: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny3.1+b1~volatile1; lenny-security: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny3.2; lenny-backports: 1:1.7.1-1.1~bpo50+1; sid: 1:1.7.1-1.1; squeeze: 1:1.7.1-1.1; experimental: 1:1.7.2.3-1 |
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| 07:44.13 | jelly-home | sako: if 1.7.1 is good enough, use the one from backports.debian.org |
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| 08:00.47 | ondrejk | hello, id like to listen online radio stream and i cant find any good cli player for that |
| 08:01.05 | ondrejk | i dont use mplayer for that, it cant show song and interpreter name |
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| 08:09.07 | feitingen | i'm running debian nicely on a fairly crappy machine, but apt-get is very slow (not the downloads), any way to speed that up? |
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| 08:12.46 | crono- | Any known opensource systems that can measure bandwidth usage on specific ranges? I've got cacti graphs on the lines, but I might need more details than that |
| 08:13.02 | sphenxes | When i try to update squeeze i get the following error: Errors were encountered while processing: postgresql-common postgresql-8.3 |
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| 08:13.48 | feitingen | crono-: i use ntop to get better detail on bandwidth |
| 08:14.48 | kryming | when will squeeze be stable release? |
| 08:14.48 | hanibanaa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:15.07 | hanibanaa | kryming: see distrowatch for such things. |
| 08:15.27 | kryming | hanibanaa: what is distrowatch? |
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| 08:15.32 | Polysics | hello |
| 08:15.42 | kryming | !distrowatch |
| 08:15.42 | dpkg | [distrowatch] http://www.distrowatch.com -- a website that estimates the popularity of different distros, and lists versions of some of the software they include. There's a nice debian page here: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian |
| 08:15.46 | kryming | thx |
| 08:15.51 | Polysics | would it be a bad idea to add a sid repository to a lenny install? |
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| 08:16.01 | Polysics | i would like to use the ruby 1.9 xapian bindings |
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| 08:16.49 | crono- | feitingen: it works in some cases, im not sure it'll do exactly this though, like sum up all outsourced services and tell me the percentage of our bandwidth being used on that |
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| 08:17.06 | Xanbreon | Polysics: Have you checked backports? |
| 08:17.18 | Polysics | Xanbreon: where can i look, please |
| 08:17.19 | Polysics | ? |
| 08:17.21 | g0rd0n | my debian system shows UTC time, however I want CEST. i did tzselect but that didn't change a thing. how can i chage UTC to CEST? |
| 08:17.38 | Xanbreon | Polysics: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 08:18.08 | feitingen | crono-: it will show you the amount of traffic based on port and host |
| 08:18.39 | Polysics | Xanbreon: searching for libxapian-ruby1.9 only returns squeeze and sid |
| 08:18.42 | g0rd0n | oppps dpkg-reconfigure tzdata did the trick :) |
| 08:18.48 | Polysics | that means there are no backports available? |
| 08:19.15 | Xanbreon | Polysics: looks like it, you could packport it manually, or carefully pull it in from squeeze or sid |
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| 08:19.40 | Polysics | looks like i should just build it all from source, should i? |
| 08:19.47 | Polysics | in the end i get more or less the same results |
| 08:20.22 | Xanbreon | Polysics: Pretty much |
| 08:20.33 | crono- | feitingen: ok ty, I'll try out NTOP again on more powerful machineware... usually it dies on me (on p3 hw) within a day |
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| 08:23.20 | cast | why would pmap -x not have entries for BSS and Anon? |
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| 08:24.15 | Polysics | which one is the bash profile for ALL users, please? |
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| 08:24.53 | cast | Polysics: man bash "/FILES" |
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| 08:25.20 | cast | i suppose /^FILES is a bit more specific :) |
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| 08:35.16 | peterrooney | cast: that works for less, and not most or more |
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| 08:36.11 | Viper-7 | im on a stock lenny install, i need apache >= 2.2.12 (which is in only squeeze or later), whats the best way to upgrade? |
| 08:36.40 | cast | most is less than less! |
| 08:37.04 | cast | Viper-7: checked bpo? |
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| 08:37.37 | Viper-7 | am now heh |
| 08:38.48 | feitingen | but, to rephrase my original question: is there a way to speed up apt-get for incredibly crappy machines? |
| 08:39.02 | cast | i thought we used aptitude |
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| 08:39.20 | cast | what is making apt-get slow, IO, memory, CPU? |
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| 08:39.51 | jelly | feitingen: pull the disk out, put it in a less crappy machine, upgrade there |
| 08:39.57 | feitingen | cast: slow cpu and low on memory, io is not too bad |
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| 08:40.18 | jelly | ... put the disk back |
| 08:41.11 | jelly | 256MB ought to be enough to run apt and dpkg without swapping |
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| 08:41.19 | feitingen | jelly: the crappy machine is my router, and i don't have any other mipsel machine. also, my arm phone is also crappy and slow, and again, that is my only arm machine.. |
| 08:41.27 | binarym | cast: since apt fetch from network (io), uncompress deb (cpu), spawn process ( (post|pre)(inst|rm) ) i think everything is a problem |
| 08:41.43 | Xanbreon | I think you are going to have to deal tbh :P |
| 08:41.46 | binarym | cast: what do you call "crappy machine" |
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| 08:42.47 | feitingen | binarym: most of the time is spent reading package lists and building depencendy tree, the rest is quite snappy. |
| 08:42.48 | jelly | feitingen: qemu-system-armel? |
| 08:42.54 | jelly | er, mipsel? |
| 08:43.34 | cast | binarym: umm. one that's unreliable. |
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| 08:44.01 | binarym | feitingen: btw, it's io and cpu time |
| 08:44.02 | binarym | :) |
| 08:44.03 | jelly | binarym: I call it "work, dammit, work!!1" |
| 08:44.07 | feitingen | tried that, my main "non-crappy" machine can't emulate armel or mipsel fast enogh for it to be worth it, and it is still pretty slow on the first two steps |
| 08:44.08 | binarym | :) |
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| 08:47.16 | feitingen | i'm wondering a bit why the first two steps seem much faster on x86 than on mipsel/arm |
| 08:47.44 | ghisen | Hi, i have a server that randomly freezes when 2-3 people working over PPTP and uploading files to pure-ftpd. This happens like 3-4 times a day (Button reboot needed). Any ideas how to debug this? The syslog gives me nothing. |
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| 08:49.21 | cast | what does PPTP provide you? |
| 08:51.13 | ghisen | Actually it just died on me and on the server screen i got like a pptp exection dump.. EAX... pptp not tainted |
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| 08:51.39 | ghisen | And a Call trace with a lot of stuff |
| 08:51.41 | ghisen | :) |
| 08:51.59 | ghisen | Must be PPTP that is the problem anyway |
| 08:53.22 | ghisen | I tried to enable debug on pptp but that only said like packet #123 sent all the time |
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| 08:53.57 | jelly | ghisen: that trace is what will help kernel maintainers or developers debug your crash |
| 08:54.33 | jelly | ghisen: or you could blindly upgrade the kernel and hope the bug's gone |
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| 08:55.05 | ghisen | jelly, i did upgrade yesterday |
| 08:55.19 | jelly | ghisen: uname -r? |
| 08:55.52 | ghisen | the server is frozen.. gonna go to it and reboot it... then see if i can find that trace in some log |
| 08:55.54 | ghisen | brb |
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| 08:58.05 | cast | i was under the impression pptp provides no security anyway |
| 08:58.20 | cast | might be a nice time to switch :> |
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| 09:19.13 | stonie | hi need to install php4-mysql - but im getting the error: Package php4-mysql is not available, but is referred to by another package. ... using apache-ssl 1.3.34-4.1+etch1 on that machine and need mysql support.. how? |
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| 09:22.05 | sweetpi | !tell stonie about etch sources.list |
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| 09:29.11 | sekon | does any one know how to use ln to link a command with another command + arguments |
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| 09:30.42 | sweetpi | sekon: make an alias or write a script |
| 09:30.59 | cast | seconds sweetpi |
| 09:31.19 | cast | ln sets up hard and soft links, which is not what you want |
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| 09:32.00 | binarym | sekon: yeah, ln link file to file, no argument possible |
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| 09:32.42 | themill | (unless it's a script that you are writing, in which case you can look at $0 and decide what to do accordingly!) |
| 09:32.43 | sweetpi | sekon: something like "alias foo='command --arg blah'" in your .bashrc |
| 09:32.58 | sekon | sweetpi,binarym thanks |
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| 09:35.45 | rasfar | i've got an eeepc 701 running squeeze/sid ... or was running. i did an apt-get upgrade today, and after a couple boots i started getting 1000's of what appear to be udev-related messages during boot. (and boot fails) using a live debian rescue image on a usb stick shows no problems, and I can chroot my HD and r/w files no problem. |
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| 09:36.16 | binarym | rasfar: upgrade run fine ? no error message ? |
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| 09:36.17 | rasfar | I tried apt-get install --reinstall udev, which succeeded but did not fix the problem. |
| 09:36.25 | cast | sqeeze or sid? |
| 09:36.40 | rasfar | the upgrade had some problems, but i smoothed them all out. |
| 09:36.43 | rasfar | squeeze |
| 09:36.59 | rasfar | i also rebooted several times into the new system before this happened. |
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| 09:37.23 | rasfar | i was playing with udev, but i really didn't change much. i killed the daemon(s) and restarted them with --debug. stuff like that. |
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| 09:37.55 | rasfar | (because my synaptics is no longer getting configured from udev since upgrade, although this is not critical compared to an unbootable system.) |
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| 09:38.31 | rasfar | *cast: actually i don't know if it's squeeze or sid. cat /etc/debian* shows "squeeze/sid". |
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| 09:39.04 | cast | sources.list is a good place to look |
| 09:39.05 | binarym | rasfar: in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 09:39.06 | rasfar | also, i tried booting with the various kernels i have and it's the same thing every time. SOOO many messages. |
| 09:39.07 | binarym | :) |
| 09:39.57 | rasfar | "unstable" (is this squeeze or sid or ?... never quite got this straight) |
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| 09:40.14 | binbash_ | squeeze is testing.. right? |
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| 09:40.37 | rasfar | i'm asking here, because i can't capture these error messages ... system can't mount my drive rw. |
| 09:41.00 | rasfar | (although the live distro has no trouble doing so) |
| 09:41.03 | sweetpi | sid is always unstable |
| 09:41.11 | binbash_ | yeah that's what i tought :P |
| 09:41.18 | rasfar | okay, and etch is always testing? |
| 09:41.36 | sweetpi | etch is an old release, testing is currently squeeze |
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| 09:41.56 | metalfoo | Etch was upon one day testing though, until released as table |
| 09:42.04 | metalfoo | +s |
| 09:42.07 | rasfar | so sid=unstable, but testing=testing ? |
| 09:42.13 | binbash_ | Yeah, testing is just the new next version allready nambed, so squeeze in this case |
| 09:42.19 | binbash_ | named* |
| 09:42.24 | metalfoo | Squeeze is the current testing edition |
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| 09:42.40 | binbash_ | Yes but, Squeeze is just Debian 6 right :-)? |
| 09:42.41 | metalfoo | Expect within the next weeks Squeeze becoming stable |
| 09:42.46 | binbash_ | Yeah |
| 09:42.49 | metalfoo | Thus replacing Lenny |
| 09:42.50 | rasfar | well, i can't remember why i'm running unstable, but i guess i wish i wasn't at the moment. |
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| 09:43.05 | binbash_ | I'm going to miss lenny |
| 09:43.06 | binbash_ | :-( |
| 09:43.08 | sweetpi | weeks? where did you hear that? |
| 09:43.21 | metalfoo | Well, its frozen. |
| 09:43.31 | jelly | metalfoo: that doesn't mean much. |
| 09:43.34 | metalfoo | So I _personally_ expect it towards end of the year |
| 09:43.59 | metalfoo | jelly: Right |
| 09:44.31 | binbash_ | Same here |
| 09:44.49 | binbash_ | There goes my weekend.. :P |
| 09:44.57 | binbash_ | (upgrading stuff) |
| 09:45.11 | jelly | !rc bugs |
| 09:45.11 | dpkg | Release-Critical bugs are Debian bugs with critical, grave or serious severities, preventing the next release of Debian. See the graph at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ or the lists at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/all.html http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=squeeze&patch=ign&pending=ign&merged=ign&done=ign&rc=1 http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php . See also <rc-alert>. |
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| 09:46.32 | rasfar | iNever seen so frightfully many messages during a boot! I'll poke around trying to find a fix, for a day or two, then I guess it's a reinstall. drat! this thing was set up so nice. |
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| 09:47.11 | binbash_ | Hehe |
| 09:47.15 | binbash_ | I know that feeling |
| 09:47.30 | binbash_ | That's why i love my sys-admin wiki.. full with all the server configurations/how-to's |
| 09:47.34 | binbash_ | learned that the hard way |
| 09:48.33 | rasfar | yeah. i always mean to keep careful track of how things got set up, but it's quite hopeless. |
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| 09:48.57 | binbash_ | Hehe, yeah.. takes disipline |
| 09:49.53 | crono- | so what does squeese bring? i guess i'll use it on my next test setup |
| 09:50.06 | crono- | s/squeese/squeeze |
| 09:50.10 | rasfar | not one of my strong points. i should just have a camera on my shoulder whenever I touch a computer. |
| 09:54.45 | metalfoo | crono-: You mean beside of new version of almost every package? |
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| 09:56.26 | crono- | metalfoo: yeah, anything special |
| 09:56.46 | crono- | ofc, i wont mind getting packages via apt that i now install from source either |
| 09:57.06 | metalfoo | http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html |
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| 09:59.16 | rdz | hi all.. is there a CLI based text editor that does not try to load the whole file into memory but only the relevant (i.e. currently viewed) section? |
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| 10:00.02 | sekon | rdz: vim AFAIK can open huge files .. why do you have this requirement |
| 10:00.07 | rdz | or how to inspect huge (GB) text files? |
| 10:00.27 | rdz | sekon, when i do it with vim, memory usage goes up by several GBs |
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| 10:00.56 | KaffeeJunky123 | hello, I'm looking for a dock like application for debian lenny with a gnome compiz desktop, any recommendations? |
| 10:03.47 | xxtjaxx | KaffeeJunky123: awn |
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| 10:04.05 | metalfoo | rdz: Let me know when you find an editor who is actually capable of doing that. I know head/tail/less/sed only as workaround. |
| 10:04.19 | cast | rdz: what are you trying to do? |
| 10:04.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | xxtjaxx: thanks I'll try that one |
| 10:05.37 | xxtjaxx | rdz emacs only loads in chunks but why do you have so big files in the first place? |
| 10:05.42 | rdz | cast, inspecting huge files? anyway, i'll try to cut out first what seems relevant |
| 10:06.15 | cast | an editor can mmap the file, and only relevent pages will get loaded into physical memory |
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| 10:07.02 | cast | but, if you're searching for the first occurance of say, FUBAR, itll read in from the start of the file to FUBAR, which might be more than your available memory, |
| 10:07.03 | rasfar | rdz: you could look into the Vim LargeFile plugin. |
| 10:07.27 | rasfar | also, they say if you open the file read-only (if that would work for you), it is much faster. |
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| 10:08.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | xxtjaxx: the awn-core stuff and the dependencies should be sufficent to get a working dock, right? |
| 10:09.16 | KaffeeJunky123 | xxtjaxx: I'm asking because there seems to be no wiki page on awn |
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| 10:09.41 | metalfoo | By the way, what's the most safe way to handle Xen kernels in Squeeze? They are not anymore installed as first entry in grub, so I'd have to fiddle around with grubs default choice which potentially breaks the system upon upgrade |
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| 10:10.26 | rdz | rasfar, many thanks for those hints |
| 10:12.09 | nsadmin | for handling xen kernels, you need 1-micron rubber gloves |
| 10:12.44 | nsadmin | xen kernels are not booted with grub, hypervisors are |
| 10:13.04 | metalfoo | That depends |
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| 10:13.19 | metalfoo | Xen 4 dom0 kernel can be booted directly. |
| 10:13.31 | metalfoo | As they are used in Squeeze for example. |
| 10:13.48 | metalfoo | Therefore they are installed as regular entry too in Squeeze. |
| 10:14.04 | metalfoo | But I mean the hypervisor / kernel entry indeed. |
| 10:15.23 | xxtjaxx | KaffeeJunky123: surely |
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| 10:19.59 | rasfar | little update on my problem. for whatever reason, boot time has gone from 12 seconds to about 5 minutes, but if i'm patient it does seem to boot normally. It's not the printing of the messages that causes the delays though. Not sure what's up, but i'm a little relieved. |
| 10:20.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | xxtjaxx: how do I get the awn dock to launch after installing and configuring? |
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| 10:20.51 | xxtjaxx | menu? |
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| 10:21.45 | KaffeeJunky123 | xxtjaxx: I feel very stupid now |
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| 10:22.02 | KaffeeJunky123 | xxtjaxx: I was looking for a command to start the dock |
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| 10:22.22 | xxtjaxx | ava<TAB><TAB> |
| 10:22.29 | xxtjaxx | something like that |
| 10:22.51 | xxtjaxx | avast-window-manager it is called but does soo much more |
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| 10:24.26 | {g} | Hey Debian People! Any ideas how to send a certain number of http requests to a server simulaneously and see if one returns any other status then 200 OK? |
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| 10:24.50 | {g} | Or is there a better channel for this kind of questions? |
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| 10:25.04 | xxtjaxx | apache had a performance kit for that |
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| 10:25.34 | xxtjaxx | parralel which executes shell scripts simultanously |
| 10:26.15 | {g} | maybe i could write a shell script that does a wget and then call it 50 times with some bash magic? |
| 10:27.39 | themill | !ab |
| 10:27.39 | dpkg | ab is 'apache benchmark'. it gives you an idea on how the daemon processes documents. be aware of the various overheads like disk I/O, network, and other things when you use it. better yet, 'man ab'. |
| 10:27.41 | crono- | {g}: theres siege, httperf and hammerhead to name a few |
| 10:28.08 | crono- | i've managed to crash apaches with insufficient hardware with those ;) |
| 10:28.53 | frikinz | Does anyone have some pointers/linux for using aufs linux especially on debian? |
| 10:29.49 | frikinz | Does anyone have some pointers/links for using aufs linux especially on debian? |
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| 10:38.07 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 10:38.32 | gypsymauro | there is a way to know which module is using my nic? I know is recognized and it works but I want to know the name of the module used by it |
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| 10:44.53 | themill | gypsymauro: lspci -k or readlink /sys/class/net/eth0/device/driver; "/msg dpkg which ethernet driver" for other ways |
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| 10:46.35 | didar | themill++ |
| 10:46.41 | didar | :D |
| 10:47.22 | tomkap | :D |
| 10:49.55 | {g} | crono-: playing with httperf now. thank you! |
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| 10:51.00 | crono- | {g}: no |
| 10:51.01 | crono- | np * |
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| 10:54.53 | konr | How can I generate a xorg.conf file without "Xorg -configure"? Is there a program like xorgcfg around? |
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| 11:00.40 | stonie | how do i install libapache2-mod-php4 in etch |
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| 11:01.37 | petemc | !tell stonie about etch sources.list |
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| 11:09.04 | manhunter | hi |
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| 11:10.48 | manhunter | when will we get squeeze.iso ready? |
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| 11:11.17 | manhunter | and last update for squeeze.iso was in February,why isn't updating? |
| 11:11.30 | abrotman | there is a daily netinst, use that |
| 11:12.03 | Nirkus | hi! on debian squeeze, how do I configure grub to (a) boot Xen hypervisor by default and (b) add custom arguments to the xen hypervisor cmdline? |
| 11:12.14 | manhunter | abrotman: why is the squeez with desktop environment not being updated? |
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| 11:12.40 | abrotman | manhunter: because it would be out of date 8hrs later .. use the netinst .. it's quite silly to download a full CD or DVD |
| 11:12.41 | manhunter | i need desktop environment,i don't want to waste bandwidth |
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| 11:12.57 | abrotman | you will be wasting more bandwidth using a CD/DVD |
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| 11:13.34 | abrotman | you'd likely not use half the packages on the disc, and the other half would have to be updated .. use the netinst |
| 11:13.59 | judgen | i allready asked in #gnome, and they did not think so. But i will give it a shot: Does there exist a nightly repo for gnome for debian? |
| 11:14.38 | manhunter | squeeze d1 alpha iso cd |
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| 11:15.38 | abrotman | manhunter: use the netinst .. it's a far better use of network resources |
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| 11:16.02 | abrotman | judgen: there's a #debian-gnome on irc.oftc.net i think, they might know of one, but i haven't seen one in ages |
| 11:16.40 | manhunter | why is the squeeze d1 alpha not being updated since February? |
| 11:16.48 | manhunter | it should be updated |
| 11:16.56 | manhunter | its a long wait |
| 11:17.06 | themill | *sigh* |
| 11:17.08 | abrotman | because it's an ALPHA .. it was released as an ALPHA |
| 11:17.19 | abrotman | use the damn netinst .. using anything else is a waste of bandwidth |
| 11:17.59 | manhunter | abrotman: netinst will take much time to get a desktop like kde or gnome, |
| 11:18.12 | themill | manhunter: it will take the same |
| 11:18.23 | manhunter | themill: no |
| 11:18.24 | themill | (or more likely, a shorter period of time) |
| 11:18.25 | abrotman | manhunter: it will take *less* time |
| 11:19.06 | manhunter | after complete download of a desktop cd , i don't have to wait during installation time |
| 11:19.06 | themill | manhunter: can you explain to me how downloading an old version and then downloading a new version will take more time than just downloading a new version? |
| 11:19.28 | abrotman | manhunter: but that "desktop" CD includes stuff you won't want .. so you've wasted bandwidth and time |
| 11:19.34 | themill | wonders if there's another language that manhunter would be more comfortable in |
| 11:19.35 | abrotman | and you're wasting time arguing with us too :) |
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| 11:20.24 | manhunter | abrotman: themill: no you don't understand the fact, i don't have to wait during installation |
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| 11:20.41 | abrotman | you have to wait to download the whole CD/DVD ... |
| 11:20.44 | manhunter | here it's low bandwidth |
| 11:20.48 | abrotman | and you're downloading things you don't want |
| 11:21.02 | manhunter | abrotman: yes,but only for one time |
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| 11:21.09 | abrotman | how many times are you going to install? |
| 11:21.29 | manhunter | may be 5 times to 5 different machine |
| 11:21.39 | abrotman | then say that .. |
| 11:21.41 | abrotman | !approx |
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| 11:21.48 | abrotman | bleh .. use an apt-proxy |
| 11:21.50 | icebrain | doesn't jigdo download an updated version of the packages? |
| 11:21.59 | abrotman | i don't think they even do jigdo anymore |
| 11:22.03 | abrotman | manhunter: which architecture? |
| 11:22.09 | manhunter | i386 |
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| 11:23.25 | manhunter | bye guys |
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| 11:23.43 | dxrt | Would anyone know how I can make my motd output commands? I have tried echoing commands in /etc/motd but that doesnt work |
| 11:23.46 | abrotman | wtf |
| 11:23.54 | abrotman | that was .. goofy |
| 11:24.01 | felipec | hmm, control-file-is-empty digsigsums |
| 11:24.03 | abrotman | btw .. did i miss a d-i beta1 announcement somewhere ? |
| 11:24.32 | themill | abrotman: there was a call for testing the other day -- I think stew said that it might be out this weekend |
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| 11:24.39 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/testing/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 11:24.46 | abrotman | been there almost a week |
| 11:25.54 | themill | there's also the weekly builds that are full CD sets again. Don't know what version of the installer is making them atm |
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| 11:27.18 | abrotman | FFS .. 52 CD ISOs ... |
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| 11:27.46 | abrotman | didn't they decide they were going to use a different compression for packages ? or they tested it? |
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| 11:29.49 | jelly | 50 cd images makes almost as much sense as 50 floppy images. That is, not very much. |
| 11:31.01 | abrotman | agreed, but some putz will download them all via his 20Mbps unlimited connection and then complain that there are more updates :) |
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| 11:31.48 | judgen | Does debian use pulseaudio by default? |
| 11:32.19 | abrotman | i think it depends what else you install |
| 11:32.25 | judgen | i am migrating back, after my long ubuntu adventure.. and i sure do not want to use it. |
| 11:32.57 | judgen | also, there is hopefully no plans of using that horrid notifier system on debian in the future right? |
| 11:33.56 | judgen | abrotman, if i install gnome-core, does it need pulseaudio then? |
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| 11:36.54 | abrotman | judgen: i'll guess not, but it would be easy to find out |
| 11:37.07 | abrotman | and i'd be fairly certain that lenny (not sure about squeeze) wouldn't use pulse |
| 11:38.41 | icebrain | still hasn't found a decent audio system that can mix sound without using 20% CPU |
| 11:39.04 | icebrain | maybe OSSv4, but then I don't have headphone detection :| |
| 11:39.29 | tyche | judgen: Currently, Debian Testing (Squeeze/Sid) does not have PulseAudio by default. I've been running it since May. |
| 11:40.01 | abrotman | tyche: using which DE? |
| 11:40.15 | tyche | DE? |
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| 11:40.24 | abrotman | Desktop Environment |
| 11:40.32 | tyche | Ah! GNOME |
| 11:40.47 | themill | tyche: a default debian installation doesn't have any sound setup at all so you need to be a little more explicit when making such statements |
| 11:40.48 | tyche | Sorry, I'm still a perpetual n00bie. :-D |
| 11:41.00 | abrotman | i have pulse, but i don't recall what pulled it in |
| 11:41.28 | themill | gnome-desktop-environment has a depends on libpulse0 |
| 11:41.31 | judgen | tyche, awsome, thanks |
| 11:41.41 | abrotman | guess gnome uses pulse! |
| 11:41.48 | abrotman | or it has that ability if you configurei t |
| 11:41.50 | abrotman | it |
| 11:42.07 | judgen | i will be using Amiwm and nog gnome, but i will supplement it with xfce4-panel |
| 11:42.22 | icebrain | libpulse0 isn't pulseaudio, AFAICT |
| 11:42.25 | themill | abrotman: gnome-core doesn't though. nfc. |
| 11:42.33 | abrotman | judd: info libpulse0 --release squeeze |
| 11:42.35 | judd | Package libpulse0 (libs, optional) in squeeze/i386: PulseAudio client libraries. Version: 0.9.21-3; Size: 356.9k; Installed: 816k; Homepage: http://www.pulseaudio.org |
| 11:42.37 | icebrain | I mean, isn't the complete package |
| 11:42.43 | icebrain | just the client lib |
| 11:42.48 | abrotman | themill: well, i'm lazy .. i do the whole kit and kaboodle :) |
| 11:43.06 | themill | ack |
| 11:44.08 | tyche | BTW, judgen, I left Ubuntu for the same reason. |
| 11:44.17 | abrotman | icebrain: i'd guess some gstreamer-using-app would suck in gstreamer-pulse |
| 11:44.37 | judgen | tyche, there is just so much stuff to dislike in the latest ubuntu that i could not overlook it any more. |
| 11:44.53 | abrotman | tyche: you left it because of pulse? |
| 11:45.24 | judgen | abrotman, there is just so much crap... like plymouth it's ilk |
| 11:45.38 | stonie | http://pastebin.org/166306 .. i cant use apt anymore do you have an idea why? |
| 11:46.17 | icebrain | judgen: yeah, plymouth screams *useless* to me |
| 11:46.38 | judgen | icebrain, and that is just the icing on the cake. |
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| 11:47.07 | abrotman | stonie: which version of linux is that? |
| 11:47.29 | tyche | Yep. I have Tinnitus. I also grew up to Classical Music (which helps me to keep from going crazy from the ringing in my ears). But my machine (Dell Inspiron 530N - you know, the one that came with Ubuntu installed) can't convince PulseAudio that it has something beyond Monaural sound with limited (severly limited) frequency range. |
| 11:47.30 | themill | judgen: so the fact that plymouth is available in debian would make you change distros again? |
| 11:47.41 | stonie | debian stable |
| 11:47.48 | abrotman | judd: versions dictionaries-common |
| 11:47.50 | judd | Package dictionaries-common on i386 -- etch: 0.70.10; lenny: 0.98.12; lenny-backports: 1.0.0~bpo50+1; sid: 1.5.14; squeeze: 1.5.14 |
| 11:47.55 | abrotman | # |
| 11:47.55 | abrotman | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dictionaries-common_0.70.10_all.deb |
| 11:47.55 | dpkg | abrotman: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 11:47.58 | abrotman | that is not stable |
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| 11:48.23 | sekon | Any one know what /bin/universe command is supposed to do ?? |
| 11:48.32 | abrotman | stonie: put your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:48.37 | abrotman | stonie: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 11:48.43 | abrotman | sekon: should you be asking #ubuntu ? |
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| 11:49.35 | sekon | abrotman: I get this when compiling bin-utilities |
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| 11:49.42 | abrotman | on ubuntu? |
| 11:49.55 | stonie | http://pastebin.org/166309 .. i need php4 on that machine thats the problem |
| 11:50.14 | abrotman | stonie: you're halfway to lenny, and lenny doesn't have php4, only php5 |
| 11:50.17 | sekon | abrotman: no I booted a kernel off a CDROM |
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| 11:51.00 | stonie | abrotman, ye thats why i added http://archive.debian.org/debian |
| 11:51.17 | abrotman | stonie: yes, but you're halfway to lenny .. you can't mix versions of debian, and lenny does not have php4 |
| 11:51.21 | judgen | themill, It is just that plymouth is uninstallable in ubuntu is just silly. |
| 11:51.24 | judgen | It should be optional |
| 11:51.31 | stonie | what can i do |
| 11:51.31 | judgen | is not* |
| 11:52.16 | abrotman | stonie: why do youwant php4 ? |
| 11:52.41 | stonie | we have one app that barly needs php4 .. i cant get it to work with php5 |
| 11:52.47 | themill | stonie: any code that still needs php4 is going to be unmaintained insecure crap anyway that you don't really want to run on your box. |
| 11:53.38 | icebrain | stonie: is it large? Have you tried asking in #php to help you update it? |
| 11:53.45 | abrotman | ##php |
| 11:54.05 | icebrain | abrotman: oh, right. Well, it forwards anyway |
| 11:54.06 | stonie | well.. yes its kinda large :-( |
| 11:54.22 | abrotman | stonie: you should really update/fix the code .. php4 isn't maintained by php.net anymore, etch isn't supported by debian ... you're really going to be creating a security issue |
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| 11:55.47 | icebrain | stonie: the incompatible change list doesn't seem very large, although I don't trust the PHP manual to list them all: http://www.php.net/manual/en/migration5.incompatible.php |
| 11:56.26 | abrotman | icebrain: it could still be "programming errors" :) |
| 11:56.43 | abrotman | or even consider the app was written for php3 |
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| 11:57.03 | icebrain | well, if it runs on 4, it shouldn't matter... |
| 11:57.32 | abrotman | "shouldn't" :) |
| 11:57.41 | icebrain | yeah, I guess :| |
| 11:57.44 | stonie | abrotman, you are right.. the app was written for php3 |
| 11:58.15 | icebrain | it probably needs to be rewritten from scratch. By the way, if you can tell, what does it do? |
| 11:58.19 | stonie | i managed to fix it for 4.. but now everything is messed |
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| 12:00.25 | abrotman | "fix" :) |
| 12:00.59 | Robinux | heya guys is there a command to sync the clock with the host system in vbox? (yes guest additions are installed and running) |
| 12:01.21 | themill | icebrain: my experience of php4âphp5 migration for real world code (i.e. anything beyond helloworld.php) wasn't great. And the problems that bit are not listed on that page at all. |
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| 12:02.34 | icebrain | themill: yeah, I've learned from experience that the PHP manual is less than accurate *ahem*. But I haven't had that particular problem, since I've never ported anything |
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| 12:02.56 | abrotman | hell, i've had stuff break between minor revisions |
| 12:03.22 | themill | icebrain: they change the meaning of "=" for objects. You can't get much more of a fundamental change than that... and it doesn't appear on that list. yay. |
| 12:03.53 | abrotman | themill: you shouldn't have been using objects? :) |
| 12:04.01 | themill | clearly! |
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| 12:17.35 | rnewson | has anyone had success using the backports kernel in a lenny pxe based install? I've moved up to squeeze to get ext4 but would much rather lenny+backports kernel. |
| 12:17.44 | Robinux | is there a way to find out what version of php it will install for me before i do apt-get install php5 |
| 12:17.44 | Robinux | ? |
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| 12:19.44 | abrotman | Robinux: apt-cache policy pkg |
| 12:19.50 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 12:19.50 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). |
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| 12:21.10 | Robinux | i see |
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| 12:22.09 | Robinux | abrotman thanks, and i bet thats the same way to find out what version of apache2 i already have installed |
| 12:22.15 | SURFkees | how can you check if openssl was compiled with ECDH support in debian? |
| 12:22.25 | Robinux | yep :D |
| 12:22.43 | abrotman | Robinux: you probably want libapache2-mod-php5 |
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| 12:22.58 | Robinux | to install it with aptitude you mean |
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| 12:23.10 | abrotman | yes |
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| 12:24.01 | Robinux | ya, damn man i hope there's a way to get the newest stable releases of apache2 and php on lenny |
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| 12:24.07 | Robinux | i'm gonna check the backports repos |
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| 12:24.11 | Robinux | but thanks for your help |
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| 12:24.23 | themill | Robinux: what are looking for in newer apache releases? |
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| 12:25.26 | Robinux | nothing i just want my applications to be new |
| 12:25.33 | cylinc1 | debian squeeze,iceweasel can't open any site,only show "(unitiled)",it just happened sometimes serveral days ago. Any one has the same problem.nslookup works fine |
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| 12:26.18 | Robinux | but then again i bet there's no big difference between php 5.2.6 and 5.3.3 |
| 12:26.24 | Robinux | they're all 5! right |
| 12:26.25 | Robinux | haha |
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| 12:27.10 | Robinux | themill? |
| 12:27.15 | themill | Robinux: don't waste your time on that then. It's really not worth doing |
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| 12:27.35 | konr | Guys, how can I Wine 1.3 under Debian? The packages are terribly outdated, as well as the build instructions |
| 12:28.01 | abrotman | konr: ask #winehq, i believe they have packages .. good luck |
| 12:28.09 | konr | abrotman: thanks! |
| 12:28.17 | Robinux | themill: ok mate, but listen can i do "tasksel install lamp-server" |
| 12:28.18 | Robinux | ? |
| 12:28.26 | themill | dpkg: tell Robinux about lamp |
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| 12:28.42 | abrotman | please use LAPP :) |
| 12:28.56 | me|kor | konr: check playonlinux |
| 12:28.58 | konr | abrotman: also, can I install .deb packages intended for Ubuntu? |
| 12:28.59 | Robinux | lapp? |
| 12:29.05 | me|kor | it's in the repos |
| 12:29.16 | abrotman | konr: you can try, it'll likely break your system, and we won't support it |
| 12:29.24 | me|kor | it loads every wine version in userspace and manages wine-prefixes |
| 12:29.42 | me|kor | so you don't have to mess aro |
| 12:29.48 | me|kor | und with wine in the system dirs |
| 12:29.57 | konr | me|kor: awesome! |
| 12:30.06 | me|kor | no problem |
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| 12:30.41 | me|kor | konr: it also sets some special configs if an app/game is supported by POL |
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| 12:35.01 | Robinux | hmmm i didn't think it'll need to install some perl packages to install php5 but oh well |
| 12:35.13 | Robinux | its working thanks themill and abrotman |
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| 12:39.06 | SURFkees | Is there a way to see the compile options that were used for a certain debian package? |
| 12:39.18 | abrotman | !tell SURFkees about debian/rules |
| 12:41.03 | binarym | SURFkees: apt-get source <package>, then look at the "rules" file in "debian" subdir |
| 12:41.11 | binarym | since !tell doesn't seem to work :) |
| 12:41.37 | SURFkees | it worked, !tell gave me a pm :) |
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| 12:43.30 | abrotman | binarym: it works just the way it should |
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| 12:52.26 | Robinux | if php is installed, shouldn't typing "php" or "php5" alone in the konsole give me something |
| 12:52.51 | binarym | Robinux: what package ? |
| 12:53.21 | abrotman | Robinux: no, you'd want php5-cli for that |
| 12:53.22 | binarym | Robinux: to have a cli interpreter you have to install php5-cli |
| 12:53.24 | kwork | Robinux, you need php5-cli for that |
| 12:53.43 | abrotman | the libapache2-mod-php5 is just the apache module |
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| 12:53.55 | abrotman | but when you do LAMP/LAPP, that's what you likely want |
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| 12:54.18 | abrotman | ponders LA<anything but M>P |
| 12:54.27 | themill | wonders why kde is installed on the server |
| 12:54.41 | abrotman | themill: you know, so you can use adept to install software |
| 12:54.42 | kwork | i would wonder why xorg is installed on the server:P |
| 12:55.17 | themill | kwork: you *could* have konsole installed without xorg |
| 12:55.42 | kwork | themill, konsole as of kde terminal ? |
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| 12:56.13 | abrotman | kwork: yes .. /msg dpkg sshx |
| 12:57.22 | abrotman | though running konsole over ssh falls into the "just because I can" category :) |
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| 12:58.03 | binarym | abrotman: netbsd make OS for toaster in this way, so why not ... |
| 12:58.16 | abrotman | this isn't #netbsd |
| 12:58.23 | abrotman | and that still is'nt a reason |
| 12:58.37 | binarym | i know ... it was a *joke* |
| 12:58.38 | binarym | :) |
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| 12:58.50 | abrotman | binarym: FWIW, they didn't make the OS for the toaster .. they put a computer inside the toaster |
| 12:59.13 | Robinux | oh |
| 12:59.16 | Robinux | php-cli huh |
| 12:59.17 | Robinux | okidoky |
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| 13:00.15 | Robinux | whats LAPP? |
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| 13:00.50 | binarym | Robinux: you mean LAMP ? |
| 13:01.00 | Robinux | abrotman was saying lamp/lapp |
| 13:01.30 | binarym | if you know what is lamp, lapp is obvious ... |
| 13:01.49 | CoolCold | puppersql?:0 |
| 13:02.31 | abrotman | postgresql |
| 13:02.32 | tyche | LAMP = Linux Apache MySQL PHP - - LAPP replaces MySQL with PostgreSQL |
| 13:02.50 | abrotman | though there's also LA(M|P)PPP .. Python,Perl,PHP |
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| 13:03.24 | tyche | Hee hee - Replace "P" with the scripting language of your choice. |
| 13:03.36 | Robinux | hehe |
| 13:03.38 | Robinux | cool |
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| 13:05.28 | abrotman | shudders at recalling the days when in his life LAMP meant M=MicrosoftSQL :( |
| 13:05.42 | stew | what did the L mean? |
| 13:06.19 | binarym | Linux dom0 with XP turning in domu ? |
| 13:06.24 | stew | if you were using Windows and IIS, you could call it WIMP |
| 13:06.45 | abrotman | stew: we were using Linux/Apache/PHP to connect to MSSQL .. this was not my decision |
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| 13:10.17 | pasky | Hi! How can I install openoffice.org from lenny-backports in lenny? If I just do `apt-get -t lenny-backports install openoffice.org`, I get complaints about Depends: openoffice.org-core (= 1:3.2.1-6~bpo50+1) but 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny7 is to be installed etc. |
| 13:10.45 | abrotman | pasky: try aptitude |
| 13:10.47 | pasky | can I easily tell apt-get to also pin up all dependencies? |
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| 13:12.21 | Robinux | yep yep i just installed php5-cli |
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| 13:12.49 | pasky | abrotman: indeed, that seems better, thanks! |
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| 13:13.22 | Robinux | how do i start it? |
| 13:13.33 | abrotman | start what? |
| 13:14.05 | stew | Robinux: you should now have a command line php program in /usr/bin/php as you were originally asking about |
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| 13:14.22 | stew | Robinux: if you want to know how to use this command, there is, of course, a manpae |
| 13:14.26 | stew | manpage* |
| 13:15.06 | Robinux | i mean damn i thought after putting in konsole "php" it would give me something |
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| 13:15.12 | SDE | Hi guys |
| 13:15.17 | SDE | what should my sources list look like? |
| 13:15.21 | Robinux | but it just jumped one line below and nothing (if you know what i mean) |
| 13:15.33 | _dreamy | what could be the best Virtual Machine software, For when using USB ? |
| 13:15.34 | stew | Robinux: its now waiting for you to type some php code |
| 13:16.00 | abrotman | SDE: that depends on your version of Debian .. |
| 13:16.15 | stew | Robinux: if you, for instance, type "<?phpinfo()?>" then hit ctrl-d (for EOF), it will do stuff |
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| 13:17.21 | Robinux | oh |
| 13:17.35 | SDE | abrotman |
| 13:17.40 | SDE | im running Debian 5.0 64bit |
| 13:17.51 | abrotman | SDE: so put your sources.list in a pastebin .. we can review them |
| 13:17.54 | _dreamy | !6.0 |
| 13:17.54 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. Ask me about <wwsr> for recent updates and see also <testing> <squeeze udev> <squeeze kernel> <lenny->squeeze> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze . The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
| 13:18.12 | SDE | SVD-LILY:~# more /etc/debian_version |
| 13:18.13 | SDE | 5.0.6 |
| 13:18.19 | SDE | sure |
| 13:18.25 | _dreamy | does this version brings a has good updated Open Sorce ATI driver, has ubuntu 10.04 ? the 6.0 ver:S ? |
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| 13:19.06 | SDE | Abrotman http://pastebin.com/EeHN3Z6v |
| 13:19.24 | rvsjoen | having some problems with NetworkManager, I installed it, created a profile and everything is working fine, except that every time i tries to connect to a network a box pops up and I have to click 'connect' to confirm the details, even though I told it to save the password, does anyone know how I can get it to connect fully automatic ? |
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| 13:20.38 | binhoz | i have problens to send mails for hotmail in my debian server |
| 13:20.41 | abrotman | SDE: i would use a different mirror than "ftp.debian.org" but otherwise it seems fine |
| 13:20.43 | binhoz | someone can help me? |
| 13:20.43 | binhoz | [SteveC]: |
| 13:20.46 | binhoz | :S |
| 13:20.48 | binhoz | sty |
| 13:20.50 | sphenxes | rvsjoen, keyring |
| 13:20.50 | binhoz | sry |
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| 13:20.58 | abrotman | !tell binhoz about enter |
| 13:21.17 | abrotman | SDE: why? what's the problem? |
| 13:21.31 | rvsjoen | sphenxes: gnome-keyring-daemon is already running, do I need todo anything else to make that happen ? |
| 13:22.41 | SDE | i was just wanted confirmation its fine |
| 13:22.45 | SDE | why not ftp.debian.org ? |
| 13:22.57 | abrotman | because it's really not a good mirror, and not a main mirror |
| 13:23.03 | abrotman | SDE: where are you geographically? |
| 13:23.06 | SDE | what should i change it to? |
| 13:23.06 | sphenxes | rvsjoen, do you login with your password or autolog? |
| 13:23.07 | SDE | UK - London |
| 13:23.37 | rvsjoen | sphenxes: I told NetworkManager to save the password, and it does, I don't have to type the password every time, if you mean the X session I use autologin |
| 13:23.45 | abrotman | SDE: you could for instance use "ftp.uk.debian.org" or one of the other UK mirrors |
| 13:23.49 | abrotman | SDE: http://debian.org/mirrors/list |
| 13:23.58 | SDE | thanks |
| 13:24.08 | stew | SDE: ftp.debian.org uses donated bandwidth that we'd prefer to not be used up by end-users that probably have a faster local mirror |
| 13:24.16 | abrotman | SDE: like perhaps the oxford mirror .. i'm sure they have a stupid amount of bandwidth |
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| 13:25.03 | jelly | terrorbits per second |
| 13:25.03 | SDE | so just add .uk. to everything? |
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| 13:25.22 | abrotman | no, just the ones that use "ftp.debian.org" .. change them to "ftp.uk.debian.org" |
| 13:25.56 | abrotman | or pick another one near you, probably even a better idea |
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| 13:26.06 | SDE | ok got it :) |
| 13:26.10 | SDE | tyhnx |
| 13:26.31 | sphenxes | rvsjoen, i am not quite sure, but i think the autologin is the reason for asking for password. try to login with your password and i think the problem will be solved |
| 13:27.34 | _dreamy | how can i update to 6.0? |
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| 13:28.11 | rvsjoen_ | sorry I got disconnected |
| 13:28.27 | rvsjoen_ | I also checked that the password is saved in the keyring using seahorse |
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| 13:28.52 | abrotman | !tell _dreamy about lenny->squeeze |
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| 13:30.13 | _dreamy | abrotman: do you know what migth change, concerning about perfomance? |
| 13:30.24 | abrotman | probably lots of stuff .. be less vague |
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| 13:31.18 | _dreamy | abrotman:ok, and new Open SOurce drivers... ? |
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| 13:31.50 | sphenxes | rvsjoen_, i think you must login with your password. deactivate autologin |
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| 13:32.40 | rvsjoen_ | it does ask me for the password to the keyring when I log in |
| 13:33.08 | rvsjoen_ | but i'll try that |
| 13:35.18 | abrotman | _dreamy: yes .. |
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| 13:39.38 | _dreamy | abrotman: i did 2 or 3 force Power buttons ( unsuccesfull shutdowns) do you think my debian migth not be ok ? |
| 13:39.54 | abrotman | it should tell you if it's not |
| 13:40.17 | _dreamy | on some log? |
| 13:40.22 | abrotman | on the screen |
| 13:40.31 | _dreamy | when starting? |
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| 13:53.33 | rneese | hey guys is there a good howto on making .deb pkgs |
| 13:53.36 | sts | hello folks. how can i rename a sata disk? eg. from /dev/sde to /dev/sdc |
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| 13:57.19 | bzed | sts: you don't |
| 13:57.26 | bzed | sts: use UUIDs or labels instead |
| 13:57.55 | bzed | rneese: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ is a good start - and #debian-mentors |
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| 14:00.50 | sts | bzed: well, but what if i still want to rename them? |
| 14:00.54 | rneese | ok #debian-mentors is locked set invite only |
| 14:00.57 | rneese | wtf |
| 14:01.28 | nsadmin | on oftc? |
| 14:01.30 | sts | bzed: whats responsible for giving the persistent name to the disk? |
| 14:01.44 | nsadmin | udev? |
| 14:01.56 | sts | where does it store that? |
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| 14:02.04 | nsadmin | check the docs |
| 14:02.16 | nsadmin | I haven't yet so I don't know |
| 14:02.29 | sts | doesn't seem to be /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules. |
| 14:03.45 | Trewas | it reads or generates the UUID from somewhere in the beginning of the partition |
| 14:03.49 | nsadmin | "what if I still want to rename them" -> you can do that, the name you choose could be exactly standard or so far away from the standard, or anything in between |
| 14:04.09 | Trewas | sorry, should have read the original question :) |
| 14:04.36 | sts | nsadmin: i want to rename sde to sdc.. |
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| 14:04.48 | nsadmin | why? what's sdc? |
| 14:05.09 | sts | nsadmin: not there anymore... |
| 14:05.23 | nsadmin | which leaves... why? |
| 14:05.45 | bzed | sts: again: use UUIDs. |
| 14:06.22 | nsadmin | right, with uuids you don't have to care anything about the disk node name |
| 14:06.28 | sts | bzed: i don't use UUIDs for the other disks either and I don't want to reconfigure my whole raid system. |
| 14:06.55 | nsadmin | well... the docs are there |
| 14:06.57 | bzed | sts: even there the answer is UUIDs or the md ids.. |
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| 14:07.31 | bzed | sts: from a mdadm.conf: ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=1.1 UUID=522518f2:eb41fd3d:1bd5994c:e79d3e88 name= |
| 14:08.07 | sts | bzed: i know that stuff. but i still want to know what makes sde be sde and not sdc. |
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| 14:08.20 | rneese | ok who do you have to deal with to get invited into #debian-mentors |
| 14:08.23 | bzed | sts: the order in which disks appear/reappear |
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| 14:08.32 | bzed | rneese: use the OFTC network |
| 14:08.40 | stew | rneese: #debian-mentors is on irc.debian.org, not here |
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| 14:09.05 | sts | bzed: and where is it stored, so it stays persistent? |
| 14:09.06 | bzed | (which points to oftc currently, just to avoid confusion) :) |
| 14:09.12 | bzed | sts: nowhere. |
| 14:09.16 | bzed | sts: and you don't want that. |
| 14:09.32 | bzed | sts: you could write an udev rule for it if you really need to. but again: use UUIDs or labels. |
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| 14:10.18 | sts | bzed: i use UUIDs on new systems. on old, which already configured the raid using the /dev/sd* i don't want to change that currently. |
| 14:10.38 | sts | so is there a way to rename it? |
| 14:10.54 | nsadmin | persistance does imply it's stored somewhere |
| 14:11.13 | bzed | sts: not really. and you should not need to do so anyway |
| 14:11.19 | bzed | sts: whats your real problem btw? |
| 14:11.31 | bzed | sts: I think you're trying to solve things on the wrong way |
| 14:11.34 | sts | i have no problem. i want to rename that disk... :) |
| 14:11.46 | nsadmin | the docs are there... |
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| 14:12.02 | bzed | sts: if you don't have a problem - why rename the disk? |
| 14:12.06 | bzed | sts: use UUIDs. |
| 14:12.15 | nsadmin | jump in, have fun, be as uncooperative as you want (but not to other people) |
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| 14:12.43 | sts | yeah. i will read the docs. |
| 14:12.45 | sts | thank you |
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| 14:13.18 | sts | but still i'm not uncooperative. i didn't ask how to setup a raid, i asked on how to rename a blockdevice. |
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| 14:14.02 | bzed | sts: and we told you that this does not make sense and it is not really possible. |
| 14:14.12 | sts | bzed: it is possible. |
| 14:14.16 | bzed | and you should use a different way to handle it. |
| 14:14.24 | bzed | have fun then. |
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| 14:15.44 | metalfoo | Someone would mind tell me where I can find documentation about menu prompts in Debian packages, like postfix for example has? |
| 14:15.59 | _dreamy | abrotman: Do you use debian ? What ver? |
| 14:16.09 | bzed | metalfoo: you mean the prompt which pops up when you install it? |
| 14:16.19 | metalfoo | No, those configuration dialogues. |
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| 14:16.49 | bzed | metalfoo: which also shows up when your run dpkg-reconfigure postfix? |
| 14:16.54 | metalfoo | Exactly |
| 14:17.01 | bzed | metalfoo: (which is the same which shows up when you install it ;)) |
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| 14:17.14 | bzed | metalfoo: look into the debconf documentation |
| 14:17.35 | metalfoo | I'm on the Maintainer guide right now, they are not mentioned there |
| 14:17.36 | bzed | metalfoo: in the debconf-doc package or google for it... |
| 14:17.41 | stew | metalfoo: in the debconf-doc package, perhaps start with man 7 debconf |
| 14:17.52 | metalfoo | Ok, I will. |
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| 14:18.02 | metalfoo | Thank you. |
| 14:18.04 | MaxFrames | hello |
| 14:19.06 | MaxFrames | I am moving the very first steps to this, so please bear with me :) |
| 14:19.20 | MaxFrames | I've tested a series of commands from the root command line and they work |
| 14:19.35 | MaxFrames | what I must do is connect to a smb share and put a file to it |
| 14:19.47 | nsadmin | you might want to collect all of this into a file |
| 14:20.08 | MaxFrames | if I put the very same commands in a .sh file, and then execute it from the root shell (sh myfile.sh) it gives errors |
| 14:20.21 | MaxFrames | it says it cannot find the file which I'm trying to put on the smb share |
| 14:20.29 | nsadmin | echo $SHELL |
| 14:20.35 | MaxFrames | but it can find it alright when I issue the same command manually |
| 14:21.20 | MaxFrames | can I pastebin the file so that someone checks it? |
| 14:21.22 | nsadmin | you might want to collect all of this into a file... initial reason, you have a fairly advanced case of ENTERitis |
| 14:21.52 | MaxFrames | ? |
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| 14:22.16 | cahoot | !enter |
| 14:22.17 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 14:22.19 | nsadmin | use of enter too much |
| 14:22.34 | abrotman | MaxFrames: have you tried using the full path ? |
| 14:22.46 | metalfoo | Ah, debconf-devel(7) is it. Found it. |
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| 14:23.42 | nsadmin | echo $SHELL |
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| 14:24.12 | MaxFrames | I have. In facts I have first tried two separate commands (smbclient [...] -c "lcd /path/to/file" followed by smbclient [...] put "filename") and then a single one (smbclient [...] -c "put /path/to/file/filename") |
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| 14:25.16 | abrotman | MaxFrames: use a pastebin to show us the contents of your script and the error you get when executing it |
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| 14:28.11 | macrobat | is there a way to access all characters a keyboard key is mapped to? |
| 14:28.47 | macrobat | there are 16 combinations listed here: keycode 34 = aring Aring aring Aring diaeresis degree diaeresis degree aring Aring diaeresis degree aring Aring diaeresis degree |
| 14:30.02 | macrobat | shift and alt-gr works, are there any more modifier keys? |
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| 14:31.05 | MaxFrames | http://pastebin.com/cqcfmC0i ==> it's probably very obvious, but I'm very noob |
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| 14:31.36 | abrotman | why not just "put /full/path/to/file.txt" ? |
| 14:31.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | is there any bug from within the last days in squeeze? My machine already froze twice after an upgrade today, just two LED keep blinking (might be only the interface, I couldn't try connecting via the net yet) |
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| 14:32.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | might be coincidence of course and really is some hardware thing |
| 14:33.36 | MaxFrames | I've tried that as well, but wait,maybe I have to put all the commands in sequence inside a single line (smbclient [...] -c "command1 command2"? |
| 14:33.40 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: I actually just replied to mailing list thread where avahi-daemon was giving the guy a kernel panic in squeeze. using avahi? |
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| 14:33.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | not knowingly... let me check |
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| 14:34.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems I do... "avahi-daemon: running" |
| 14:34.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | it must be part of the default install, then |
| 14:34.49 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: part of "gnome" and the desktop task |
| 14:34.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh, and there's avahi-autoipd running with PID 102, which has no user :( |
| 14:34.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes... |
| 14:35.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | let me see if that was part of the upgrade |
| 14:35.28 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: here is the thread if you want to check it out: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=Y7B72b9bh-BqzmePNhnZ4tS=N3grp=S9FDVcr@mail.gmail.com |
| 14:35.33 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: its actually a kernel problem |
| 14:35.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... if I check on it, I better do it fast, before the next crash |
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| 14:36.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | 2010-10-12 19:34:57 status half-configured libavahi-client-dev 0.6.27-2 |
| 14:36.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | etc. etc. |
| 14:36.16 | MaxFrames | OK, my problem is solved;the commands must be entered inside a single -c instruction separated by semicolons |
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| 14:36.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, but that's from yesterday... curious, can't remember updating yesterday |
| 14:37.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | but guess that would be likely enough |
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| 14:38.22 | Parabola|Work | Good morning, I"m trying to filter tail with grep |
| 14:38.29 | jordanm | if its not isolated to that guy's particular hardware, I would think a grave RC |
| 14:38.32 | Parabola|Work | and its not working very well |
| 14:38.55 | stew | Parabola|Work: what's wrong? it should work fine |
| 14:38.59 | Parabola|Work | nevermind stew |
| 14:39.05 | Parabola|Work | I was a retard and did not provide the filename! |
| 14:39.10 | Parabola|Work | :) i was tail'ing no file |
| 14:39.15 | Parabola|Work | oh my god |
| 14:39.23 | Parabola|Work | Oct 11 23:44:25 zeus kernel: [2169253.823652] mydns[7421]: segfault at 1cc62a8 i p 000000000040a4a6 sp 00007fff0d73d650 error 4 in mydns[400000+32000] |
| 14:39.27 | Parabola|Work | That doesnt look good :( |
| 14:39.54 | jordanm | well, I guess some kernel bug was introduced.. becuase that looks it could be related too |
| 14:40.29 | tapoxi | guys why is debian so awesome |
| 14:40.41 | jordanm | !tell tapoxi about why debian |
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| 14:41.16 | tapoxi | that was a rhetorical question |
| 14:41.41 | Parabola|Work | lol |
| 14:41.50 | Parabola|Work | tapoxi, the answer is because of the great sense of humor of the community :0 |
| 14:41.51 | jordanm | yes, but our bot can answer it anyways :) |
| 14:41.58 | Parabola|Work | hmm |
| 14:42.02 | hever | Hi. I want to access the default sound playback device via a software to capture audio that is played. How is this device named ? |
| 14:42.04 | Parabola|Work | !tell Parabola|Work about why debian |
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| 14:42.33 | b0nghitter | !tell b0nghitter about why debian |
| 14:42.41 | hever | I just need the path. /dev/dsp seems working for MIC but I don't need MIC I need the sound actually played.... |
| 14:42.50 | Parabola|Work | lol bong |
| 14:42.55 | Parabola|Work | hever, |
| 14:42.59 | Parabola|Work | lemme see if i can find it |
| 14:43.13 | icebrain | !tell Parabola|Work about selftell |
| 14:43.27 | jordanm | hever: if I had to guess, I would guess one the devices in /dev/snd/ |
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| 14:43.34 | Parabola|Work | hever: |
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| 14:43.38 | Parabola|Work | sndstat maybe? |
| 14:43.49 | jordanm | hever: /dev/dsp is OSS, but works using alsa OSS compatibility plugin |
| 14:44.34 | dec3pti0n | is there a way I can force packages that upgrade keeps saying that the will be kept back ? |
| 14:45.03 | stew | dec3pti0n: try "aptitude install packagename" |
| 14:45.21 | dec3pti0n | yeah I tried that but then it fails on some dependencies |
| 14:45.28 | stew | dec3pti0n: show us |
| 14:45.32 | jordanm | !tell dec3pti0n about bat |
| 14:45.41 | dec3pti0n | :) |
| 14:45.58 | stew | dec3pti0n: and note that when it says "acceept this solution (Yn)" you can say no, and try for another solution |
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| 14:49.07 | hever | jordanm, sndstat gives just some infos and the devices in /dev/snd give me "File descriptor in bad state" |
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| 14:52.31 | jordanm | it seems our "why debian" factoid now links to a site selling debian gear, including the with the non-free logo |
| 14:52.40 | jordanm | specifically says its not affiliated with debian... |
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| 14:53.22 | vaq | How do I generate a dsa ssh key without having to type in anything? |
| 14:53.35 | vaq | ssh-keygen -q -t dsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key - will ask me for |
| 14:53.40 | vaq | passphrase |
| 14:54.10 | jordanm | vaq: you can hit enter and leave it blank |
| 14:54.36 | vaq | Iknow, but I need this done in a script |
| 14:55.11 | _dreamy | is 6.0 unstable? |
| 14:55.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, that url doesn't lead to the bug |
| 14:55.17 | jordanm | testing |
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| 14:55.37 | stew | _dreamy: squeeze, which will be the next stable. since unstable is never released, it isn't given a release number |
| 14:55.41 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: it hasn't been reported yet, outside of some mailing lists AFAIK |
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| 14:56.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | it doesn't lead me to a mail either |
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| 14:56.36 | cusco | hi |
| 14:56.39 | stew | vaq: have a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst to see how it is done there |
| 14:56.42 | _dreamy | !upgrade |
| 14:56.42 | dpkg | [upgrade] what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with apt-get. Do an apt-get update first, and then an apt-get upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version, read the release notes first. Ask me about <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze>. |
| 14:56.57 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: did my reply show up? |
| 14:57.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | autoforwards to here http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/AANLkTi=Y7B72b9bh-BqzmePNhnZ4tS=N3grp=S9FDVcr@mail.gmail.com/firsthit |
| 14:57.14 | _dreamy | !lenny->squeeze |
| 14:57.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | you might see something else than I if you logged into something |
| 14:57.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno |
| 14:57.44 | abrotman | _dreamy: msg the bot |
| 14:57.52 | bzed | !tell _dreamy about selftell |
| 14:57.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | also... |
| 14:58.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | !lenny2squeeze |
| 14:58.01 | dpkg | WARNING: upgrade your kernel prior to the rest of the packages. Remove any APT source specific to stable (volatile, backports), then change lenny to squeeze in the sources.list. aptitude update && aptitude install linux-image-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,'` ; reboot into 2.6.32 kernel; aptitude full-upgrade. If full-upgrade fails, try "apt-get dist-upgrade". See <squeeze release notes>, <squeeze udev>, <apt-listchanges>, <testing>. |
| 14:58.06 | cusco | while using exim+dovecot-imap+roundcube emails arrive with subject charset not right... I tried setting it both ways (utf-8 and iso8859-15) on roundcube |
| 14:58.10 | cusco | but no change |
| 14:58.21 | _dreamy | oh, its just that i could need some support , on upgrading.. :S |
| 14:58.22 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: odd, none of the links adding by mailman seem to be working for that thread |
| 14:58.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | better than sometimes-not-working "->" |
| 14:58.33 | hever | I think I'm looking for the path to the default ALSA device... |
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| 14:58.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, was there a proposed fix? |
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| 14:59.30 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: disabling ipv6 was suggested, but I don't think that was it. Seems to be a problem with multicast. It was sitting on the "report it as a bug" stage... |
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| 15:00.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | downgrade avahi, or even uninstall it? |
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| 15:00.18 | muddd | hi. I'm trying to grasp the concept of a cloud's infrastructure. Is it like a bunch of computers that run as a cluster? Or just, say for instance, a web server that is capable of having many mirrors? I'd love to be pointed to a readme about this. |
| 15:00.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh, wtf is avahi anyway... |
| 15:00.36 | jimcooncat | vaq, I see on one site they use: ssh-keygen -N "" |
| 15:00.39 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: zeroconf networking and discovery (mdns) |
| 15:01.02 | stew | muddd: its a virtual machine that has smoke and mirrors in front of it so that it seems like something more than that |
| 15:01.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh |
| 15:01.12 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: you could ask dpkg about it too ;) |
| 15:01.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, yes... that was the next thing... read the package description and it was... full of unknown buzz-words |
| 15:01.51 | jordanm | the smoke and mirrors being an API that is different with every cloud provider... |
| 15:02.04 | abrotman | i'm sure wikipedia has some article about it |
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| 15:02.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok... so no harm uninstalling it |
| 15:02.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess |
| 15:02.22 | muddd | yeah, but they didn't go into how the infrastructure is organized |
| 15:02.25 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: which dpkg also links to ;) |
| 15:02.26 | muddd | I' |
| 15:02.36 | muddd | I'm just curious about how it's set up to perform like that. |
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| 15:03.02 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: on a side note, it fails to start on my laptop, but I haven't got around to figuring out what is going on and perhaps reporting. I do not experience any sort of crash though |
| 15:03.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, the wikipedia article? no... only avahi.org |
| 15:03.07 | muddd | Like is there a "cloud server software" that runs over all the machines or what. I found a link for Eucalyptus debian stuff that I'm reading now. |
| 15:03.08 | themill | dpkg: tell CutMeOwnThroat about zeroconf |
| 15:03.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, that |
| 15:03.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | I meant the avahi factoid |
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| 15:04.46 | teknishun | Hello, I run testing with Gnome. Since past few days deskbar-applet seems to be causing 100% CPU utilization in addition to random entries in deskbar-applet history. In addition, I can not kill deskbar-applet. Please help! |
| 15:05.32 | Erthe | Hey folks, I'm having an issue with Apache. I upgraded a server yesterday that was running Debian 4 to Debian 5. Apache is not pre-processing PHP files at all. |
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| 15:05.46 | Erthe | I haven't made changes to php5.conf,load |
| 15:06.02 | Erthe | apache2 -t -D DUMP_MODULES reports the module is loaded. |
| 15:06.16 | jordanm | teknishun: what state does 'ps aux' show the proc in? |
| 15:06.25 | Erthe | But Apache is sending the application/x-httpd-php MIME type for PHP files |
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| 15:06.57 | jordanm | Erthe: did you check with the possible issues section of the upgrade guide? |
| 15:07.03 | marshallmc1 | how do i see which modules are enabled in my kernel? |
| 15:07.11 | stew | marshallmc1: lsmod |
| 15:07.23 | marshallmc1 | ty |
| 15:07.23 | Erthe | jordanm, I had this issue in Debian 4, I upgraded at the suggestion of someone here in IRC yesterday. |
| 15:07.30 | jordanm | modprobe -l to see all, even not loaded |
| 15:07.49 | Erthe | jordanm, I'm experiencing the very same issue so I'm pretty sure it wasn't the version of Debian that was an issue. |
| 15:07.58 | teknishun | jordanm: I logged out of gnome & I am on xfce now. root 2908 0.0 0.0 3300 752 pts/1 S+ 20:38 0:00 |
| 15:07.59 | jordanm | Erthe: that suggestion was likely not intended to be a solution to your problem, but something else that needed to be done |
| 15:08.24 | Erthe | jordanm, Yes, I think it was intended to level the playing field for assistance, but now I need assistance. :D |
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| 15:09.32 | jordanm | Erthe: most often I had seen that as a client-side problem of browser caching |
| 15:09.40 | stew | Erthe: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php.conf contains AddType directives? |
| 15:10.04 | Erthe | stew, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf does, yes |
| 15:10.05 | jordanm | doesn't sound applicable in your situation however |
| 15:10.40 | Erthe | jordanm, no, Apache is sending the MIME type for pre-processing PHP files when it should in fact be sending text/html as the MIME type and actually pre-processing the PHP code. |
| 15:10.48 | stew | yes |
| 15:11.16 | Erthe | I'm not new to setting up Apache with PHP, I'm just more accustomed to doing so on Ubuntu. |
| 15:11.32 | Erthe | As far as I can tell my setup is fine, the syntax check with apache2 -t is fine |
| 15:11.40 | stew | Erthe: but yes, you should make sure that you aren't looking at something cached |
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| 15:12.14 | Erthe | stew, I've check this in three browsers, it's not a caching issue, my browser is prompted to download the file because the MIME type reported by the server is application/x-httpd-php |
| 15:12.20 | Erthe | Which is inappropriate. |
| 15:12.30 | Erthe | It feels like the PHP5 module isn't loaded, but Apache claims it is. |
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| 15:13.22 | themill | Erthe: have you tested this with HEAD or wget or curl or similar? |
| 15:13.33 | jordanm | !php wants me to download still |
| 15:13.33 | dpkg | The usual problem is your browser caching the content, so make sure you cleared your browser cache and restarted your browser and also verify that it's still a problem outside of your browser using wget, GET, curl, telnet, netcat etc. Do make sure you have carefully read <install php> and /usr/share/doc/php*-common/README.Debian.gz as well as many common problems are addressed. See also http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHPDownload |
| 15:13.45 | Erthe | themill, I can transfer the contents, but all the PHP code is visible. |
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| 15:14.00 | Erthe | The trouble is the PHP5 module isn't doing it's job. |
| 15:14.00 | themill | that's not quite what I asked |
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| 15:14.28 | stew | hmm, http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHPDownload is saying not to use AddType if I'm reading it correctly |
| 15:14.32 | Erthe | themill, well, I can use wget to fetch the contents at the root of the site, I can do that in a browser too, but the PHP code is *in* the file |
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| 15:15.22 | themill | Erthe: 95% of the time when people come in with this problem, it's their browser that is lying. I don't care what you see with your browser, I want to know what the output of HEAD or wget is. |
| 15:15.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, I just uninstalled the daemon... let's see if the crashes go away... just random crashes is of course the worst, as it's so hard to reproduce... thanks for the pointer, really hard to figure out the cause here... |
| 15:15.44 | stew | yeah, it looks like the newer pacakges use SetHandler, not AddType |
| 15:15.44 | themill | stew: last time I looked at that page it was pretty apache1 specific. |
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| 15:16.16 | stew | themill: its not |
| 15:16.30 | themill | good, that's an improvement then |
| 15:16.38 | jordanm | last edited 2009-12-15 |
| 15:16.39 | stew | themill: its telling you to configure similar to the php5.conf in squeeze |
| 15:16.41 | preller | is syslogd the default syslog server on debian? |
| 15:16.41 | Erthe | I'll try it with SetHandler and see what gives. |
| 15:16.48 | Erthe | The php5.conf comes with AddType though |
| 15:16.52 | jordanm | preller: no |
| 15:16.56 | Erthe | That should probably be changed if it's not appropriate |
| 15:17.04 | preller | jordanm: what's the default? |
| 15:17.11 | jordanm | rsyslog |
| 15:17.15 | themill | Erthe: the default config with lenny works just fine |
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| 15:17.32 | Erthe | Well, apparently not. |
| 15:17.37 | preller | jordanm: do i need a syslog server for logging sshd messages? |
| 15:17.52 | stew | Erthe: have you verified that your php5.conf is the one from lenny? |
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| 15:18.14 | themill | Erthe: well apparently you're not using the default configuration. If this is an upgrade then that is highly likely. |
| 15:18.16 | jordanm | preller: yes, ssh uses syslog, along with tons of other things |
| 15:18.16 | stew | Erthe: (if you had made even a whitespace change to it after it was installed in etch, you'd not get the lenny versio when you upgrade) |
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| 15:19.00 | Erthe | Well, I *had* modified it, but I didn't see any dpkg-dist extensions on those module .conf or .load files |
| 15:19.05 | Erthe | So maybe it's out of date |
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| 15:20.05 | themill | Erthe: modifying the main apache2.conf can have similar results. Are the config files actually being included properly? |
| 15:20.13 | Erthe | Yes |
| 15:20.18 | Erthe | And the syntax check is OK |
| 15:20.23 | Erthe | So says apache2 -t |
| 15:20.32 | Erthe | I'm using the apache2.conf from Lenny |
| 15:20.38 | Erthe | I had to update /etc/apache2/envvars |
| 15:21.09 | preller | jordanm: i actually just want to log sshd messages. which syslog server would be the resource friendliest? |
| 15:21.19 | Erthe | If I were to remove php5.conf and php5.load from mods-available, could I reinstall the package to receive Lenny's default configuration for those? |
| 15:21.27 | preller | im on an arm system with 128ram |
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| 15:22.04 | stew | Erthe: only if you reinstalled with confmiss (/msg dpkg confmiss). you could reinstall with confnew, but that would also replace changes you've made in apache's php.ini |
| 15:22.16 | jordanm | preller: I don't think any of them are very resource intensive. |
| 15:22.22 | konr | How can I find out what is using my device (/dev/cdrw)? |
| 15:22.22 | stew | hmm, or would it, perhaps php.ini isn't listed as a conffile? |
| 15:22.37 | Erthe | stew, luckily I've only created a vhost in this installation. |
| 15:22.42 | jordanm | preller: and.. its in a default install with Priority: Important. why don't you have it already? |
| 15:22.56 | preller | jordanm: i dont know :D |
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| 15:23.38 | preller | jordanm: i've just followed this guide http://jeff.doozan.com/debian/ |
| 15:24.00 | preller | it's probably a minimal debian install made for the dockstar |
| 15:24.01 | jordanm | stew: doesn't appear that it is |
| 15:24.26 | shadow` | is it possible to make like a 2nd root, with almost as much access... to install/change/delete programs/services, access like root to /etc/ and few other folders |
| 15:24.47 | Nirkus | on debian squeeze, do i need to generate a initrd for domU usage of the -xen- kernel image? |
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| 15:25.15 | Erthe | The configuration files for the php5 module were the same. |
| 15:25.33 | Erthe | I ran apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 15:25.44 | Erthe | The resulting php5.conf and php5.load were the same as the ones I had. |
| 15:26.03 | stew | Erthe: confmiss will only replace them if they are gone completely |
| 15:26.20 | Erthe | I moved them out of scope to see what would have been provided by Lenny |
| 15:26.26 | stew | Erthe: you can check if you have the default version by comparing the md5sum with that returned in "dpkg -s libapache2-mod-php5" |
| 15:26.32 | jordanm | preller: that script uses debootstrap, which should install all priority: Important |
| 15:26.32 | Erthe | They were the same configuration (apt-get recreated the fiels) |
| 15:27.05 | preller | jordanm: whereis rsyslog doesn't show anything |
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| 15:27.09 | preller | http://ompldr.org/vNXN5cA |
| 15:28.15 | Erthe | My checksums are correct |
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| 15:34.24 | muddd | debian on a network storage device? nice |
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| 15:35.19 | preller | yeaaaah, that thing is awesome... |
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| 15:36.54 | muddd | it doesn't have /var/log/auth.log? |
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| 15:37.25 | preller | nope, there's no syslog "facility" installed. |
| 15:39.04 | muddd | busybox? |
| 15:39.16 | stew | jordanm: are you positive that deboostrap would install priority: important? |
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| 15:40.46 | project2501a | hack on, hackers. hack on. |
| 15:41.25 | marshallmc1 | how do i find which process is using a listening port |
| 15:41.50 | project2501a | netstat |
| 15:41.57 | project2501a | netstat | grep -i <your port here> |
| 15:42.04 | project2501a | cows with guns |
| 15:42.48 | muddd | cows with guns? |
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| 15:43.15 | stew | marshallmc1: for a tcp port: "netstat -plnt | grep :portnum" you'll need to be either be root or the user running the process to discover the process |
| 15:43.35 | project2501a | muddd: google for cows with guns ;) |
| 15:43.42 | marshallmc1 | untrustworthy ungulates |
| 15:43.55 | karlpinc | How do I download videos from picasaweb.google.com? I'm running lenny (and using iceweasel). The urls seem to point me to a "download the flash player". |
| 15:44.18 | karlpinc | (I don't really expect to be able to view the videos. But someday flash will work.) |
| 15:44.29 | project2501a | karlpinc: did you install flash ? |
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| 15:45.47 | muddd | heh, witty |
| 15:46.04 | karlpinc | project2501a: No. I've gnash installed, I think, but am not really interested in using it. It can't seem to play anything of interest. |
| 15:46.06 | project2501a | muddd: for my next trick google "end of the world flash" |
| 15:46.18 | project2501a | karlpinc: and right you are. |
| 15:46.21 | project2501a | gnash needs work |
| 15:46.29 | project2501a | go ahead and install flashplayer-nonfree |
| 15:46.32 | karlpinc | project2501a: I don't want to install flash, at least not imbedded in a browser. |
| 15:46.41 | project2501a | and i am off to karate |
| 15:46.47 | project2501a | BASAI DAI |
| 15:46.55 | karlpinc | I want to _save_ the video, not view it. |
| 15:47.13 | marshallmc1 | how do i see what packages i have installed |
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| 15:47.27 | karlpinc | marshallmc1: aptitude search ~i |
| 15:47.38 | marshallmc1 | ty |
| 15:47.44 | karlpinc | marshallmc1: Or better, aptitude search ~i!~M to see just what you asked to be installed. |
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| 15:49.14 | marshallmc1 | trying to configure havp but its not able to connect to bind to 8080 for some reason |
| 15:49.27 | littleendian256 | hi, programs like xchm don't render unicode characters correctly but render blocks with numbers (probably representing the ID of in the codespace?), debian squeeze |
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| 15:49.43 | icebrain | karlpinc: tried installing Video DownloadHelper? |
| 15:49.48 | jhutchins_lt | marshallmc1: also dpkg -l |
| 15:49.58 | icebrain | (of it works for Iceweasel in Lenny) |
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| 15:50.53 | karlpinc | icebrain: What's the package? I can't find it as downloadhelper |
| 15:51.15 | icebrain | karlpinc: it's an extension, I don't think it's packaged |
| 15:51.33 | karlpinc | icebrain: Ah. I'll go looking. Thanks. |
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| 15:54.45 | karlpinc | icebrain: *urgle* There's 19 choices. |
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| 15:55.07 | icebrain | what choices? In the extension? |
| 15:55.18 | ibansal | hi all |
| 15:55.41 | icebrain | hi |
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| 15:57.19 | Kris | Good morning everyone! No questions yet, just using debian for the first time in ages and idling here while getting everything set up. :) |
| 15:57.53 | craigevil | karlpinc: you want https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006/ |
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| 15:58.03 | ibansal | can anyone guide me on how i can update my package Standard Version from 3.9.0 to 3.9.1.0 |
| 15:59.05 | stew | ibansal: look through one of the versions of /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist* ; it will tell you what changed between 3.9.0 and 3.9.1 |
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| 15:59.19 | karlpinc | icebrain: No. Different extensions. And I've different options of download format. flv, mp4 hq18. Someday I'm going to have to turn my brain on. What is the native format? I assume that transcoding loses resolution. |
| 15:59.21 | stew | ibansal_: look through one of the versions of /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist* ; it will tell you what changed between 3.9.0 and 3.9.1 |
| 15:59.33 | Texou | hi |
| 15:59.53 | ibansal_ | stew, thanks but i am not quite able to understand them |
| 15:59.59 | icebrain | karlpinc: mp4, probably |
| 16:00.08 | Texou | please could someone help me for a problem on Evolution 2.22 (Debian lenny)? I cannot anymree save an attached file. Don't know why. log is here: http://pastebin.com/E9mPR83p |
| 16:00.11 | stew | ibansal_: ask a specific question about one you don't understand then |
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| 16:00.18 | ibansal_ | stew, sure |
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| 16:00.41 | karlpinc | Texou: Is your disk full? We need to know more. Type "/msg dpkg errors" into your irc client. |
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| 16:01.01 | Texou | ok |
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| 16:01.08 | karlpinc | craigevil, icebrain : Thanks. I'll give it a try. |
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| 16:01.36 | ibansal_ | stew, can you explain the 3.9 point Maintainer scripts must pass `--package' to `dpkg-divert' when |
| 16:01.37 | ibansal_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.57 | stew | ibansal_: does your package call dpkg-divert int he maintainer scripts? |
| 16:02.27 | karlpinc | Texou: Is the bogofilter package installed? |
| 16:02.46 | ibansal_ | stew, sorry but i am kind of new to this , so dont know much |
| 16:02.51 | Texou | karlpinc: no inded, I should have disabled the option |
| 16:03.03 | ibansal_ | stew, can you explain how do we check for this |
| 16:03.17 | karlpinc | likes bogofilter No false positives. |
| 16:03.24 | stew | ibansal_: does your package include a postinst script? |
| 16:03.30 | Texou | karlpinc: :) |
| 16:03.47 | ibansal_ | stew, as i told can you explain how do we check for this |
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| 16:04.14 | stew | ibansal_: this would be a script in the source package probably named debian/postinst or debian/packagename.postinst, it would be installed as /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.postinst |
| 16:04.19 | Texou | karlpinc: disk not full. I'm watching dpkg but... as it's a GUI app... |
| 16:04.34 | stew | ibansal_: these are described here: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html#s-maintscripts |
| 16:04.35 | ibansal_ | stew, okay let me check |
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| 16:04.47 | stew | err |
| 16:04.57 | stew | here: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html |
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| 16:05.27 | stew | ibansal_: is the package you are talking about in debian? |
| 16:05.46 | ibansal_ | stew, yes |
| 16:05.51 | stew | ibansal_: which package? |
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| 16:06.16 | karlpinc | Texou: You can start it from the command line too and watch to see if there's any errors in the terminal. |
| 16:06.35 | Texou | all I know is I type "evolution" |
| 16:06.42 | Texou | ah |
| 16:07.02 | Texou | karlpinc: I did (to enable --debug=file), no error on commandline |
| 16:07.18 | ibansal_ | stew, i am working on pippy activity in sugar |
| 16:07.21 | MINOWAMAN | is debian better than windows 7? |
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| 16:07.43 | MINOWAMAN | can I watch my dvd with debian? |
| 16:07.44 | gravity | cute |
| 16:07.51 | karlpinc | Texou: My Mom had this problem. Turned out there was a / in the filename. |
| 16:08.10 | Texou | ah |
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| 16:08.13 | stew | ibansal_: that package is already claiming to be at standards version 3.9.1 |
| 16:08.19 | karlpinc | !tell MINOWAMAN about dmm |
| 16:08.32 | Texou | I tried but... becomes systematically |
| 16:08.41 | MINOWAMAN | nice, even encrypted dvds? |
| 16:08.48 | karlpinc | MINOWAMAN: That's where stuff is kept to allow you to play dvds. Yes. |
| 16:08.49 | ibansal_ | stew , thats what i want to know as to how do we check that |
| 16:08.51 | stew | ibansal_: assuming you are talking about the sugar-pippy-activity package |
| 16:09.00 | ibansal_ | stew, correct |
| 16:09.13 | stew | ibansal_: the Standards-Version: field in the control file |
| 16:09.15 | MINOWAMAN | ok will try |
| 16:09.22 | MINOWAMAN | other question |
| 16:09.23 | karlpinc | MINOWAMAN: I don't know about blue ray though. |
| 16:09.24 | stew | ibansal_: in debian/control |
| 16:09.27 | Texou | I'll try tonight I'll tell you... sorry I've an emergency |
| 16:09.32 | MINOWAMAN | my friend has a laptop and it has some fingerprint scanner |
| 16:09.36 | MINOWAMAN | is an hp laptop |
| 16:09.38 | MINOWAMAN | very neat |
| 16:09.43 | MINOWAMAN | but does this work in debian too? |
| 16:09.49 | MINOWAMAN | is like password but with fingerprint |
| 16:10.12 | MINOWAMAN | so you put finger and you have access with authorized |
| 16:10.16 | MINOWAMAN | you login with finger |
| 16:10.21 | ibansal_ | stew, checking |
| 16:11.19 | stew | MINOWAMAN: yes, there is libpam-fprint, but its only currently in unstable |
| 16:11.24 | MINOWAMAN | wow nice |
| 16:11.28 | karlpinc | MINOWAMAN: Depends on the device. If you knew the pciid we could probably help. |
| 16:11.34 | ibansal_ | stew, okay i just noticed |
| 16:11.37 | MINOWAMAN | but I need an application for it too? |
| 16:11.41 | MINOWAMAN | to handle fingerprints |
| 16:11.47 | MINOWAMAN | not only library? |
| 16:11.49 | ibansal_ | stew, can you help me with sugar-moon-activity then |
| 16:12.07 | stew | MINOWAMAN: http://wiki.debian.org/FingerForce |
| 16:12.20 | MINOWAMAN | nice, thanks stew |
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| 16:15.10 | ibansal_ | stew, cant see any source package named as postinst |
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| 16:16.36 | stew | ibansal_: forget postinst. i thought you were a package maintainer trying to change the standards version of your package |
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| 16:16.54 | ibansal_ | stew, nope |
| 16:17.03 | stew | ibansal_: if you just want to know the standards version for a pacakge already in debian, get the sources and look at Standards-Version in debian/control |
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| 16:17.36 | ibansal_ | stew, check http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-moon-activity.git;a=summary |
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| 16:17.44 | ibansal_ | this is definately 3.9.0 |
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| 16:17.56 | stew | ibansal_: oh, or you can check here: http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sugar-pippy-activity.html |
| 16:18.06 | stew | ibansal_: upper left: "std-ver: 3.9.1" |
| 16:18.25 | ibansal_ | stew, okay |
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| 16:19.49 | ibansal_ | stew, can you guide me on the upgrading moon activity so that it can be accepted into debian |
| 16:20.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, hm actually the crash was somewhat after I partially lost control over the mouse (could move it, but not click anything and the focus didn't change to another window when I moved it over something)... that happened without a crash a couple of times, recovered... maybe related? mmh well, didn't crash yet after removing the avahi... but today was the first crash after what dpkg says was the upgrade yesterday evening |
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| 16:21.42 | Erthe | How do I remove a package in such a way that all files provided with it are also removed? |
| 16:22.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | what "all files"? |
| 16:22.45 | Erthe | Well I need to reinstall mysql because I was never able to go through the process of setting the root password |
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| 16:22.45 | cusco | Erthe: purge flag |
| 16:22.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | §aptitude purge package" will remove config files |
| 16:22.54 | project2501a | hello |
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| 16:23.08 | cusco | Erthe: but that is not the right question to your original problem |
| 16:23.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh, but I don't think the mysql databases are removed, as they're considered user data |
| 16:23.24 | niklaswe | Erthe: mysqladmin -u root password ânewpasswordâ |
| 16:23.34 | cusco | Erthe: start mysqld as --skip-grant-tables and then set your proot password |
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| 16:24.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | or /msg dpkg i forgot mysql root password |
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| 16:26.19 | ibansal_ | stew, can you explain me the point which i had asked |
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| 16:26.50 | stew | ibansal_: dpkg-divert is something that might be called in the maintainer scripts, but your package doesn't ahve any maintainer scripts |
| 16:27.16 | ibansal_ | stew, true so that point need not be considered right |
| 16:27.27 | stew | ibansal_: right |
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| 16:28.42 | ibansal_ | stew, can you explain 4.10 |
| 16:28.42 | ibansal_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.43 | ibansal_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.43 | ibansal_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:28.45 | Erthe | cusco, it seems to hang when I try that |
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| 16:30.42 | ibansal_ | stew, can you explain http://pastebin.com/0hhLFx4n |
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| 16:30.54 | felipec | where do I specify something is non-free? |
| 16:30.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell Erthe -about mysql initial password |
| 16:31.00 | felipec | it's not Section, right? |
| 16:31.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | niklaswe, I would think you run into problems with those type of quotes, though :) |
| 16:31.17 | TuxOtaku | quick question: I want to run a local debian mirror for unattended vm installs, how much disk space will I need for the mirror? |
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| 16:33.46 | cusco | Erthe: it doesn't hang. It attaches to the session (terminal) you have to open a new session and use mysql client, or start mysqld --skip-grant-tables & |
| 16:33.50 | felipec | ah, 'Section: non-free misc' I guess |
| 16:34.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | !mirror size |
| 16:34.07 | dpkg | To see the size of the Debian archive for each architecture and get information on how to make your own mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/size |
| 16:34.39 | jhutchins_lt | Any known issues with the .32 kernel mounting USB drives? |
| 16:35.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | bts! |
| 16:35.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've not run into any, though |
| 16:35.18 | stew | ibansal_: that one doesn't apply to you either |
| 16:35.33 | stew | felipec: where are you specifying this? |
| 16:35.48 | ibansal_ | stew, can you point out which do apply to me |
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| 16:36.07 | Erthe | There doesn't seem to be a root user, that may be part of my issue. |
| 16:36.10 | felipec | stew: the control file |
| 16:36.11 | stew | ibansal_: not right now |
| 16:36.22 | ibansal_ | stew, okay sure |
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| 16:36.53 | ibansal_ | stew, any pointers on how can i determine which do apply to me |
| 16:37.35 | Kris | woot, fully operational and didn't even have to pester anyone with questions, it's a good day to install debian :D |
| 16:37.40 | stew | felipec: you want non-free/misc then |
| 16:37.40 | Kris | have a great day everyone! |
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| 16:37.48 | stew | Kris: :) |
| 16:37.53 | icebrain | !next |
| 16:37.54 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 16:37.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 16:38.02 | Kris | :D |
| 16:38.27 | stew | ibansal_: #debain-mentors in irc.debian.org might be a better place for packaging questions |
| 16:38.31 | felipec | stew: yes, that's what I'm using now... thanks |
| 16:38.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | could be more "questions" of that type :) |
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| 16:40.31 | stew | ibansal_: but really, most of these should be obvious |
| 16:40.44 | rvsjoen_ | I seem to be unable to find a font for xterm that looks nice in a 1920x1280 resolution, anyone have any suggestions ? |
| 16:40.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | default? |
| 16:41.02 | AimHere | <silly>Get a smaller monitor</silly> |
| 16:41.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | default's been good enough for me! |
| 16:41.25 | Ikarus | rvsjoen_: what is your desired pixel size ? |
| 16:41.33 | Ikarus | uh, size in pixels for the font |
| 16:42.11 | ibansal_ | stew, okay |
| 16:42.34 | stew | ibansal_: does your package distribute a shared libraray? |
| 16:43.12 | karlpinc | The real question is why can't I turn up the resolution on the monitor to get small pixel sizes but magnify the screen display to make _everything_ bigger? Or is this what happens anyway when you turn down the resolution on a flatscreen? |
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| 16:44.59 | rvsjoen | arg, sorry I got disconected |
| 16:46.15 | ibansal_ | stew, no |
| 16:46.30 | stew | ibansal_: so you can skip all of 8.* 10.2 |
| 16:46.52 | stew | ibansal_: does it include an ada library? |
| 16:47.03 | stew | ibansal_: does it declare a conflicts or breaks relationshiop? |
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| 16:48.05 | stew | ibansal_: 10.9 is about control files, which are the files named /var/lib/dpkg/info/pacakgename* after the pacakge is installed, you should be able to check that yourself |
| 16:48.48 | osfd | Hi there |
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| 16:49.34 | osfd | concnerning this tutorial http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en The very last point before booting is to copy an iso image. Shall I copy this *.iso or the content of it...please |
| 16:50.17 | stew | osfd: the .iso itself |
| 16:50.32 | osfd | stew: great, thank you |
| 16:51.30 | karlpinc | So, I've installed the video downloadhelp plugin into iceweasel, but it does not seem to do anything other than show up in the toolbar. Do I have to actually enable flash (*ugh*) to get it to work? |
| 16:52.45 | stew | ibansal_: your README.source says that your upstream tarballs are stored in git using pristine-tar, but that doesn't seem to be true |
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| 16:53.09 | the_file | df |
| 16:53.11 | osfd | also I can't find the lenny iso... I'm sorry |
| 16:53.23 | stew | ibansal_: your changelog doesn't actually close the bug you are trying to close it should contain "(Closes: #593882)" |
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| 16:54.31 | ibansal_ | stew, okay |
| 16:54.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | karlpinc, we don't even know what plugin that is... I used "dwhelper" once and yes, you needed to have flash installed, because it would detect when the browser actually accesses content and over what url and that only happens when the flash movie starts playing |
| 16:54.46 | stew | ibansal_: your watch file seems broken |
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| 16:55.34 | ibansal_ | stew, sorry cant see that |
| 16:55.37 | Parabola|Work | hey, whats a good way to see what switches work with a service? |
| 16:55.45 | osfd | got it here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ sorry |
| 16:55.46 | stew | ibansal_: it works for you? |
| 16:55.48 | karlpinc | CutMeOwnThroat: Sorry, spelled it wrong "Video DownloadHelper". I don't suppose there's a way to download video's without installing flash. I don't want it and don't have sound anyway. |
| 16:56.00 | skrewla | i was using sidux but it's pretty much gone to crap, anything similar tto it? is arch any good? |
| 16:56.03 | Parabola|Work | like in this case mydns keeps breaking and in ps aux i see its started with /usr/local/sbin -b |
| 16:56.05 | Parabola|Work | what is that -b doing? |
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| 16:56.19 | stew | skrewla: perhaps you want to ask in ##linux |
| 16:56.27 | icebrain | skrewla: Debian Sid? |
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| 16:56.39 | ibansal_ | stew, okay now i get what you are referig to |
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| 16:57.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | karlpinc, as I said... having sound or not is not the issue... it's that ... possibly the url of the movie is only revealed when you start watching it... I guess that might even be a common thing with those helpers |
| 16:57.16 | skrewla | i'll give sid a whirl. the sidux people made it sound unusable, but it was probably all just dogma |
| 16:57.30 | homie | dude, why is debian so broken ? |
| 16:57.32 | stew | ibansal_: i'm saying uscan doesn't seem to work |
| 16:57.37 | homie | now i get a 100% full error on my partition |
| 16:57.40 | homie | though it has nothing but pure debian bootstrap with kde on it |
| 16:57.41 | karlpinc | !tell homie about errors |
| 16:57.46 | icebrain | skrewla: works fine for me |
| 16:57.48 | homie | and it is 100GB |
| 16:58.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | rm -rf porn; df -h . --> Free: 90GB |
| 16:58.21 | karlpinc | homie: What does "df -h" say? |
| 16:59.14 | homie | /dev/sda1 88G 83G 0 100% / |
| 16:59.15 | homie | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.39 | stew | homie: if you have 83 gigs used, then no, its not just debootstrap with kde, there must be much more |
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| 16:59.49 | somiaj | skrewla: I'd suggest debian stable -- just get over the fact lots of packages are a bit old, its not a big issue. Once you get use to how debian works (dpkg/apt) then you can either upgrade it to sid (I use it but things don't always work as epxected) or look into backports, which is a better way to install the few newer things youw ant. |
| 17:00.09 | skrewla | oh, i have to aptitude upgrade to unstable? |
| 17:00.16 | icebrain | skrewla: yeah |
| 17:00.20 | ibansal_ | stew, cant see why its not working |
| 17:00.21 | ibansal_ | http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Moon/ |
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| 17:00.33 | somiaj | skrewla: Learning the basics of debian on stable will just save you unexpected problems while getting familar with the tools |
| 17:00.39 | karlpinc | homie: Ok. So use "cd /; du -sh" See what's using space, cd into there, and repeat until you're satisfied. |
| 17:00.52 | stew | skrewla: you shouldn't expect debian unstable to be any less broken than sidux |
| 17:01.07 | somiaj | skrewla: then as I say, I suggest backports to most people, unless you really like to play with your computer all the time the nyou may like sid -- but many would rather the system just work. |
| 17:01.27 | karlpinc | homie: Oops. That's: du -sh * |
| 17:01.33 | skrewla | thanks, this isn't a production system, it's my workstation |
| 17:01.38 | stew | homie: and make that -shx |
| 17:02.08 | somiaj | homie: do you install lots of debs (say upgrading a sid install a lot) |
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| 17:02.47 | homie | somiaj: nobody listens here, i did a clean lenny debootstrap on /dev/sdb1 with kde included |
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| 17:03.07 | stew | homie: where is /dev/sdb1 mounted? |
| 17:03.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | he could also use 'gdmap' if a) the bug that doesn't show very big files was fixed and b) he had the space to install it :-P |
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| 17:03.25 | homie | somiaj: i just mounted temporarily another lenny in some folder here, and chroot into it, is that maybe due to cache mismatch ? |
| 17:03.35 | homie | the other one has no swap partition though |
| 17:03.53 | homie | and that one is not mounted now |
| 17:04.06 | somiaj | homie: well I was just giving a suggestion of common places space can get eaten up -- first figure out where all the data is being stored, log files going wack, or some other thing filling up your hd |
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| 17:04.46 | stew | homie: I'd suggest showing us the output of "du -xk / | sort -n | tail -100" it might take some time to run |
| 17:05.05 | homie | the only error i have now is libmtp7 and libnjb not found in udev rules folder, apparently it is just linked there |
| 17:05.16 | somiaj | skrewla: well as I say sid will require a lot more active computer adminstration than stable + backports, /msg dpkg simple sid backport (really for a work station installing the few software apps you want the sid version whil keeping amostly stable version isn't to diffcult) |
| 17:05.19 | homie | but that would be due to the usb device, not the failure i have now |
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| 17:05.37 | somiaj | skrewla: but some people enjoy fiddiling with their linux install (such as me). |
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| 17:06.05 | homie | and i can cat those links....with content shown.... |
| 17:06.41 | stew | homie: what exactly is the error and when do you get it? |
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| 17:07.28 | skrewla | oh wow, I didn't even realize stable was recently updated. |
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| 17:07.43 | homie | the error is a general one, somethin screwed something, and my partition now shows full, which it definetly is not |
| 17:07.43 | skrewla | it might actually be usable now |
| 17:08.31 | stew | homie: it doesn't look like its full, but it looks like there might not be any available space, if that is the thing confusing you (its common to have 5% reserved for root) |
| 17:08.38 | karlpinc | homie: shutdown -F now and see if that fixes it. |
| 17:08.51 | stew | homie: don't listen to karlpinc |
| 17:08.56 | stew | karlpinc: don't do that type of thing in here |
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| 17:10.04 | karlpinc | stew: He keeps insisting that he has not put anything on the fs, yet it is full. So, see if a fsck will fix it. |
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| 17:10.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | you should "touch /forcefsck" first, though :) |
| 17:10.51 | karlpinc | CutMeOwnThroat: That's what -F does. |
| 17:10.54 | stew | karlpinc: oh, i missed the -F |
| 17:10.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | or does -F... |
| 17:11.07 | stew | but really, i don't see why he doesn't just see what is using the space |
| 17:11.17 | stew | but i get the sense he wants to complain more than he wants to get help |
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| 17:11.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're not the only one there |
| 17:11.41 | karlpinc | stew: Right, so he can choose random advice to follow and get random results. (Yay!) |
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| 17:12.12 | somiaj | skrewla: only security updates -- you won't have any new versions of packages put in. I have a few friends I set up with stable and it works fine as a desktop. |
| 17:12.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, each to their own :) |
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| 17:12.29 | karlpinc | skrewla: But there's always backports.debian.org. |
| 17:12.36 | somiaj | skrewla: but look into backports, for the most part newer != better, but there is usually a few pieces of software you want the new features from. |
| 17:13.02 | karlpinc | skrewla: See also volatile.debian.org. |
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| 17:16.49 | Erthe | How do I allow a specific user access to FTP to my server? |
| 17:17.04 | jhutchins_lt | Erthe: Which fto server? |
| 17:17.07 | jhutchins_lt | ftp |
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| 17:17.37 | Erthe | Well, there's an FTP server running (or at least port 21 is open, so says nmap) but I'm not sure which specific ftp daemon it is |
| 17:17.40 | karlpinc | Erthe: The sane way is to not use ftp, but use sftp. Then just give the user an account. Otherwise you'll be exposing your passwords. |
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| 17:18.14 | somiaj | Erthe: there are many different ftp servers, so figure out which one you have installed, dpkg -l | grep ftp should help |
| 17:18.14 | Erthe | karlpinc, I would agree, but I've been instructed to specifically setup FTP |
| 17:18.22 | karlpinc | Erthe: You can use lsof to see, I think. |
| 17:18.37 | jhutchins_lt | Erthe: dpkg -l | grep ftp |
| 17:18.45 | Erthe | psa-proftpd |
| 17:18.55 | somiaj | Erthe: from there by default any system user can logon to ftp, but there some config files where you can configure which users can log into ftp -- this of course will be dependent on the ftp server your using |
| 17:18.58 | jhutchins_lt | Wow, that's an odd one. |
| 17:19.44 | karlpinc | Erthe: (You could tell them to use the firefox sftp plugin.) |
| 17:19.53 | somiaj | Erthe: look though /usr/share/doc/psa-proftpd -- the info should be there |
| 17:19.55 | jhutchins_lt | Erthe: You'll probably need to consult the manpage for it, and /usr/share/docs/psa-proftpd |
| 17:20.20 | jhutchins_lt | Erthe: Newer ftp servers like that usually have their own access control systems.. |
| 17:20.23 | somiaj | usually its something like /etc/ftp_allow or some file like that you need a list of usernames, but read the docs for your ftp server |
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| 17:21.33 | deepy | What happened to the simple and good media player xmms? |
| 17:22.30 | stew | deepy: /msg dpkg xmms |
| 17:22.39 | felipec | hmm, I removed /var/log/mail.* |
| 17:22.53 | stew | deepy: the short version is "broken and abandoned by its authors" |
| 17:22.55 | felipec | anyone has the permissions around? |
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| 17:24.18 | xyan | felipe: root.adm 0640 |
| 17:24.25 | peterrooney | stew: xmms2 is in no way a replacement for xmms. Not even close. |
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| 17:25.04 | somiaj | peterrooney: its just not matained anymore and debian isn't mataining it either -- doesn't mean you can't make your own deb for it -- check the archives, grab the source and compile it |
| 17:25.29 | abrotman | audacious ? |
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| 17:26.57 | jhutchins_lt | bmpx? |
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| 17:31.47 | B-ZaR | evening |
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| 17:34.57 | B-ZaR | I'm making a debian based VM, and I'd like to configure it to show the DHCP aquired IP address at the login prompt |
| 17:35.03 | B-ZaR | how can I make it wait until the IP is acquired? I already have an init script to print it |
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| 17:36.05 | abrotman | the IP should be acquired at boot time |
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| 17:36.30 | abrotman | there's also /etc/network/if-up.d/ |
| 17:36.31 | B-ZaR | well "ip -f inet addr show eth0" prints blank |
| 17:36.44 | B-ZaR | just before login |
| 17:36.50 | B-ZaR | after login works fine |
| 17:37.59 | B-ZaR | abrotman: that looks like it could work |
| 17:38.07 | B-ZaR | I'll give it a shot |
| 17:38.30 | ice799 | Hi, is there a place to globally set the MAILTO address for all cron jobs? I could go through an add MAILTO= to each file in /etc/cron.d myself but there has to be a better way |
| 17:38.59 | stew | peterrooney: i have no idea |
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| 17:41.33 | Mixxit | does anyone know how to hide clients hostmasks on ircd-ircu? i tried adding usermode +x to the client blocks but it doenst apply |
| 17:42.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | the mouse-thing still happens, though... can't click, windows-focus doesn't change with mouse-movement... it's vexing |
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| 17:44.07 | karlpinc | ice799: You could try setting a MAILTO env variable in the cron startup script. |
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| 17:45.13 | Parabola|Work | anyone have any idea why a process would be spawned twice? |
| 17:45.13 | themill | ice799: how about in /etc/aliases? |
| 17:45.15 | Parabola|Work | nobody 317 0.0 0.0 27500 1596 ? Ss 13:04 0:00 /usr/local/sbin/mydns -b |
| 17:45.23 | Parabola|Work | its twice from the same location, this is an ISP config box |
| 17:45.28 | Parabola|Work | i ran ps aex on it |
| 17:45.30 | Parabola|Work | and they look the same |
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| 17:45.40 | Parabola|Work | anyone wanna help me take a stab at it |
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| 17:45.57 | karlpinc | themill: But cron won't send mail if there's no MAILTO at all, right? |
| 17:46.27 | themill | karlpinc: cron will send mail to the job owner if there is any output or a non-zero exit status from the job |
| 17:47.21 | karlpinc | themill: Ah. It does not send mail if MAILTO exists but is empty. |
| 17:47.41 | themill | yes. |
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| 17:48.12 | Parabola|Work | :( |
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| 17:49.47 | TuxOtaku | quick question regarding preseeding: how would I tell debian-installer to manually install a few debian packages not in the repository? |
| 17:49.51 | Parabola|Work | im assuming somthing is wrong with the script in /etc/init.d/ |
| 17:50.07 | Parabola|Work | TuxOtaku, dpkg -i .. |
| 17:50.14 | Parabola|Work | !tell TuxOtaku dpkg |
| 17:50.23 | Parabola|Work | aww |
| 17:50.31 | TuxOtaku | Parabola|Work: no no...I mean how would I do that in a preseed file? |
| 17:50.38 | Parabola|Work | oo |
| 17:50.41 | Parabola|Work | no idea :( |
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| 17:51.22 | TuxOtaku | yeah trying to put together an automated debian install that installs a paravirtualized guest on XenServer complete with XenServer Tools installed |
| 17:51.31 | Parabola|Work | nice |
| 17:51.41 | TuxOtaku | almost there too |
| 17:52.18 | TuxOtaku | got it to grab the xen kernel and install it so that the VM is paravirtualized...just can't figure out how to get it to install the xenserver tools debs from Citrix |
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| 17:53.06 | orzel2 | hello. i have a working debian lenny, and i'm trying to 'upgrade' the hardware. I'd like to use a 64bits processor while the installation is 32 bits |
| 17:53.29 | orzel2 | i dont care the 64bits hardware being used as 32bits, and i think it's supposed to work. but it is not, the kernel does not boot :/ |
| 17:53.38 | orzel2 | though if i boot, i can chroot, and then, it works |
| 17:53.57 | jhutchins_lt | Parabola|Work: Many programs like dns servers run multiple instances. |
| 17:54.09 | Parabola|Work | jhutchins okay, so thats common? |
| 17:54.15 | jhutchins_lt | Parabola|Work: I suggest you consult the documentation for mydns. |
| 17:54.19 | Parabola|Work | the reason i started looking, is it randomly fails, but the process doesnt die |
| 17:54.26 | Parabola|Work | ispconfig is to blame i think :) |
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| 17:54.31 | orzel2 | so my question is : how can install a 64bits kernel on this computer, so that it can boot, and then use the 32bits userland |
| 17:54.32 | orzel2 | ? |
| 17:54.45 | Parabola|Work | boot a live CD, mount the drive, chroot |
| 17:54.53 | Parabola|Work | download the kernel source, compile |
| 17:55.06 | jhutchins_lt | Parabola|Work: wtf? |
| 17:55.11 | Parabola|Work | what |
| 17:55.31 | jhutchins_lt | No need to compile kernels in debian. |
| 17:55.37 | Parabola|Work | *shrugs* |
| 17:55.53 | Parabola|Work | fine, chroot , wget the deb file |
| 17:55.54 | Parabola|Work | and install? |
| 17:55.55 | jhutchins_lt | You can if you want to or need to, but generally just install the package. |
| 17:56.09 | rvsjoen | I installed xfonts-terminus and console-terminus package, but when I do 'xlsfonts' I still can't see the terminus font, do I need to reload it somehow ? |
| 17:56.11 | jhutchins_lt | Parabola|Work: No, aptitude install <package> |
| 17:56.20 | Parabola|Work | fine :) |
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| 17:56.45 | jhutchins_lt | That's what the package managers are for, and they do the job fairly well. |
| 17:57.03 | jhutchins_lt | I think the question is how to go about mixing a 64b kernel with 32b apps and libraries. |
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| 17:57.24 | orzel2 | Parabola|Work: i'd like to use an official one, i need vserver support.. |
| 17:57.31 | jhutchins_lt | orzel2: Any reason not to go with a full 64b system? |
| 17:57.39 | orzel2 | i would need to reinstall it all ? |
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| 17:58.29 | MrKeuner | hello, in which configuration file should one specify the environment variables for them to be recognized withing GNOME applications? Eclipse fails to recognize the export line specified in ~/.profile, for instance |
| 17:58.34 | deepy | Is xmms2 like a continuation of xmms? |
| 17:58.43 | deepy | well, fork raather |
| 17:58.45 | jhutchins_lt | orzel2: I don't know how to do this, but my approach would be to 1)MAKE A SYTEM BACKUP, 2) aptitude install the linux image of your choice and let it pull whatever dependencies it wants, then reboot. |
| 18:00.00 | orzel2 | jhutchins_lt: the backup is already done of course. But i can't find any 64bits kernel with aptitude, i guess somehow it 'knows' that the system is 32bits |
| 18:00.55 | abrotman | deepy: no, not even close |
| 18:01.04 | abrotman | deepy: if you want something like xmms1, try audacious |
| 18:01.45 | jhutchins_lt | !tell orzel2 about debian-amd64 |
| 18:02.26 | Saliven | hi all... can anyone please tell me why the X server in sid repos is so old? |
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| 18:03.24 | jhutchins_lt | Saliven: because having the latest up-to-the-minute package only means having the latest bugs. |
| 18:03.36 | Erthe | Thanks for the help today folks, you've all been great. :D |
| 18:04.00 | abrotman | Saliven: it's kind of on hold til squeeze releases |
| 18:04.03 | abrotman | and it's really not that old |
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| 18:04.38 | Saliven | well there is 1.7.7 and the newest one is somewhere around 1.9 |
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| 18:05.14 | abrotman | judd: versions xserver-xorg-core |
| 18:05.16 | judd | Package xserver-xorg-core on i386 -- etch: 2:1.1.1-21etch5; etch-security: 2:1.1.1-21etch5; lenny: 2:1.4.2-10.lenny2; squeeze: 2:1.7.7-7; sid: 2:1.7.7-8; experimental: 2:1.9.0.901-1 |
| 18:06.11 | Saliven | okay thx |
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| 18:21.20 | _dreamy | is pulse audio better then alsa? |
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| 18:25.55 | cahoot | wrong question - different uses |
| 18:26.21 | cahoot | PA is a layer 'above' alsa |
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| 18:32.30 | lunks | Hey! I have a Linux machine with an Windows VM guest inside it running through Virtualbox. I have set up SSH using Cygwin, and it works via TCP. But I'd like to run it through a serial port. Virtualbox does have some kind of serial port emulation, so possibly I could have access to the serial port on the Windows machine directly. Although I have these informations, I don't know much where to start. |
| 18:33.09 | KB1JWQ | Can sshd bind to a serial port? |
| 18:33.31 | lunks | KB1JWQ, I don't know. |
| 18:33.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought terminals do |
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| 18:34.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | ssh is for connecting over the network, serial port are a {way to emulate a|type of} terminal? |
| 18:35.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | !serial console |
| 18:35.04 | dpkg | A serial console can be used to administrate a system or capture kernel crash/panic information. http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/serial-console.txt . See also <netconsole>. |
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| 18:35.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | serial port as such is only the thing you used to plug mice into 5-10 years ago :) |
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| 18:36.58 | somiaj | longer than that, ps2 mice were common by 2000, if not fairly common a few years before that |
| 18:36.58 | flo` | hi |
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| 18:37.29 | flo` | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | I dunno... I never heard you can access windows via a serial console ... or that that would do any good with a single-user nearly-graphics-only OS |
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| 18:37.47 | Innocentus | Hallo! |
| 18:37.54 | Innocentus | How can I install a package with only minimum req? |
| 18:38.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | req? |
| 18:39.07 | Innocentus | requirements / recommandation crap |
| 18:39.10 | stew | Innocentus: aptitude --without-recommends install packagename |
| 18:39.11 | Innocentus | he wants to install tons of crap |
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| 18:39.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably because the program needs them... |
| 18:39.59 | Innocentus | Thank you all! |
| 18:40.02 | Innocentus | You have helped me! |
| 18:40.04 | Innocentus | :) |
| 18:40.52 | Innocentus | OK |
| 18:40.55 | Innocentus | now I have installed lxde |
| 18:40.59 | Innocentus | How can I start from the console? |
| 18:41.06 | Innocentus | Actually I have got plain console. |
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| 18:41.44 | stew | Innocentus: startlxde |
| 18:41.50 | stew | Innocentus: did you install xorg? |
| 18:41.56 | flo` | Innocentus, edit your xinitrc and insert startlxde in there |
| 18:42.14 | Innocentus | stew: so easy? |
| 18:42.14 | Innocentus | no recompiling? |
| 18:42.14 | Innocentus | no disassembling? |
| 18:42.14 | Innocentus | wow |
| 18:42.14 | flo` | Innocentus, no recompiling |
| 18:42.24 | flo` | Innocentus, however, on another disto a plain startlxde didn't work for me |
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| 18:42.43 | flo` | Innocentus, inserting it into my .xinitrc helped, however (then enter startx) |
| 18:42.59 | Innocentus | right |
| 18:43.01 | Innocentus | it doesn't start |
| 18:43.09 | Innocentus | where can I find the .xinitrc? |
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| 18:43.56 | nilla | hiya |
| 18:43.57 | flo` | Innocentus, in your home-directory |
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| 18:44.09 | somiaj | flo`: the only syvinit options I see are minit and runit, both are debian packages, minit says its experimentail and not easy, runit apears to have good documation on how to replace init |
| 18:44.33 | flo` | Innocentus, nano /home/username/.xinitrc . if it doesn't exist, create it |
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| 18:44.51 | flo` | if you create it, you will have to set its execution permission: |
| 18:44.58 | flo` | chmod a+x thefile |
| 18:45.14 | Innocentus | forgive me - but which user? |
| 18:45.21 | flo` | your user |
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| 18:45.25 | flo` | (try whoami) |
| 18:45.25 | Innocentus | I have got maintenance and notroot (standard user with not root previlleges) |
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| 18:45.44 | flo` | well, (wtf? maintenance??) the nonroot user ^^ |
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| 18:46.03 | flo` | except you want root to execute lxde, which you should be lynched for, if you do it ;) |
| 18:46.11 | flo` | somiaj, i failed with runit, and it isn't KISS ;) |
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| 18:46.30 | Innocentus | what should I insert into .xinitrc? |
| 18:46.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | maitenance? whazzat |
| 18:46.35 | flo` | somiaj, it could be, but debian makes it complicated (as it simply uses its complicated sysv-sysinit-script) |
| 18:46.38 | somiaj | flo`: yea with debian unless you want to go reset up things yourself kinda stuck with syvinit |
| 18:46.40 | flo` | Innocentus, startlxde |
| 18:47.03 | somiaj | also you don't need to chmod +x $HOME/.xinitrc -- its just read not executed |
| 18:47.17 | flo` | somiaj, oh, really? cool ^^ |
| 18:47.20 | Innocentus | ok |
| 18:47.23 | Innocentus | and now I do what? |
| 18:47.25 | flo` | somiaj, well, i tried, but it's pretty hard, as the config is COMPLETELY different than archs one |
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| 18:47.30 | stew | Innocentus: did you install xorg? |
| 18:47.37 | flo` | Innocentus, 1) nano ~/.xinitrc |
| 18:47.40 | somiaj | flo`: yea its just an 'rc' file |
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| 18:47.46 | flo` | 2) enter "startlxde" (without "") |
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| 18:47.50 | flo` | 3) save and quit |
| 18:47.53 | flo` | 4) exec startx |
| 18:48.05 | flo` | somiaj, and thousands of scripts |
| 18:48.08 | Innocentus | startx - command not found :( |
| 18:48.17 | flo` | Innocentus, then install Xorg |
| 18:48.19 | stew | Innocentus: you need to install xorg |
| 18:48.24 | flo` | aptitude install Xorg |
| 18:48.28 | somiaj | flo`: I'm just kinda accept the init that debian uses, my suggestion is if you want to run debian to get use to it. |
| 18:48.29 | flo` | or X, or x11, whatever |
| 18:48.42 | stew | xorg, not Xorg (package names are always lowercase) |
| 18:48.58 | flo` | somiaj, well, for fiddling, it sucks (thus it may be the best choice for servers and stable systems) |
| 18:49.33 | flo` | somiaj, a simple alternative -- more easy, less stable -- would be cool. but if that doesn't exist, i'll try arch |
| 18:49.53 | Innocentus | ok |
| 18:49.55 | Innocentus | thank you |
| 18:49.57 | Innocentus | I will try it |
| 18:50.01 | somiaj | flo`: what are you trying to do that syvinit cannot do? or you just dno't like how it works? |
| 18:50.02 | flo` | i gave up arch because the ati driver always crashed... but it seems to have become better |
| 18:50.14 | flo` | somiaj, i know how it works. i try to optimize my boot |
| 18:50.22 | flo` | my arch (optimized) starts pretty fast |
| 18:50.41 | flo` | because the second hwclock isn't executed, udev is started in background, etc... |
| 18:50.51 | flo` | things that _are possible_ with sysvinit, but pretty hard |
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| 18:51.43 | somiaj | yea, I have never cared enough to optimize boot -- there are no packages inside of debian to do such a thing, and I kinda think most packages you install with init requirments will almost assume syvinit |
| 18:52.06 | somiaj | a google search may turn up something, doubt your the only person who wants to use a different init in debian |
| 18:52.07 | dondelelcaro | somiaj: there actually are |
| 18:52.13 | flo` | somiaj, archs init is actually compatible to sysvinit-scripts. it only executes them with start or stop argument |
| 18:52.21 | Innocentus | an image with the already started desktop environment would be cool. then it only needs to be loaded back into the ram. and immediatly the system is ready. |
| 18:52.33 | somiaj | dondelelcaro: arg yea, I found two minit and runit, any others? |
| 18:52.33 | flo` | only difference is HOW i define when which service starts, and the rc.sysinit is different |
| 18:52.34 | dondelelcaro | but yes, we support many different kinds of init systems to various degrees |
| 18:52.45 | flo` | Innocentus, that's called suspend to ram ;) |
| 18:52.55 | dondelelcaro | somiaj: rc-file, etc. |
| 18:52.56 | Innocentus | yea, but I mean an hybrid solution |
| 18:53.02 | Innocentus | A plain image is used after reboot |
| 18:53.15 | Innocentus | And things which would change a diffed from it |
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| 18:53.30 | flo` | i have to leave now... cu ;) |
| 18:53.33 | flo` | and thanks ;) |
| 18:53.40 | somiaj | dondelelcaro: well flo` was looking for an easy replacment if you have a suggestion |
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| 18:54.06 | dondelelcaro | I'd just use sysv-init unless you have a real serious reason not to |
| 18:54.09 | dondelelcaro | though we probably will switch the default at some point in the future to something |
| 18:54.20 | jelly-home | hopefully not systemd! |
| 18:54.22 | jelly-home | hides |
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| 18:54.53 | dondelelcaro | maybe upstart, but I have no idea |
| 18:55.29 | dondelelcaro | I don't really have a strong opinion about it |
| 18:55.42 | somiaj | any reason why debian will switch? |
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| 18:55.50 | dondelelcaro | because sysv init sucks |
| 18:56.16 | dondelelcaro | I mean, it's robust enough, but there are a lot of issues with starting services at the right time and keeping them running, etc. |
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| 18:56.24 | bzed | jelly-home: I think systemd will become the proper thing for the future |
| 18:56.53 | dondelelcaro | but this is an area that is still undergoing massive flux; eventually there will be a handful of them, and one will be a reasonable default |
| 18:57.27 | dondelelcaro | init replacements seems to be the new "everyone writes one" after people stopped writing VCS. |
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| 18:58.48 | stew | so now we need to figure out which is the 'git of init" |
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| 19:00.59 | dondelelcaro | stew: yeah, that's my thinking |
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| 19:01.28 | dondelelcaro | it seems we went from editors to window managers to mail clients to VCSs to init replacements |
| 19:01.32 | jhutchins_lt | Part of it is because the hardware has changed a lot. Parallelization is much more practical than it was on the old mainframes. |
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| 19:02.01 | dondelelcaro | jhutchins_lt: actually, the old mainframes live in parallized worlds |
| 19:02.12 | jhutchins_lt | dondelelcaro: I mean for start-up. |
| 19:02.31 | jhutchins_lt | dondelelcaro: Once they're up, yeah, massively parallel, especially the NEW old mainframes. |
| 19:02.43 | dondelelcaro | mainframes start up once or maybe twice in their lifetime, usually |
| 19:03.35 | dondelelcaro | well, ideally; though clients running on them maybe restart more often |
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| 19:04.09 | jhutchins_lt | I dunno, we had a 4090 that we had to restart every couple of months to add new cores. |
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| 19:11.55 | wal3 | hello. my syslog is been flooded with: kernel: [ 2022.278562] gspca: URB error -62, resubmitting |
| 19:12.04 | wal3 | something with webcam |
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| 19:14.40 | jhutchins_lt | wal3: What does google come up with when you paste the error message into a search? |
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| 19:16.11 | wal3 | jhutchins_lt: i have googled first. there's nothing that helps. |
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| 19:17.13 | dutchfish | hi, i have warning about mismatching version of php5-mysql (5.3.2-2) and msyql-server-5.1 (5.1.49-1) on squeeze/x86_64, some problems also with phpmyadmin and packages relying on php5-mysql and apache2 mod. What version of mysql-server will be shipped with squeeze in the end? and waht about the mismatch? |
| 19:18.04 | Saliven | hi... which of these WMs is better please: blackbox or fluxbox? |
| 19:19.16 | abrotman | Saliven: depends what oyu need .. fluxbox probably has more features, but also more bloat |
| 19:19.25 | abrotman | used blackbox for many years, and is partial to it |
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| 19:21.07 | Saliven | abrotman: thanks :) |
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| 19:23.50 | dutchfish | fyi it looks if phpapi-20090626 does not match anymore |
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| 19:26.58 | judgen | Am i able to post in the channel now? |
| 19:27.19 | metalfoo | Obviously |
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| 19:27.55 | metalfoo | Using debconf, what does it mean when I get 'question skipped' upon a template question where db_reset was not called before? As of my understanding of debconf-devel(7) goes, it should present former values (there are none though) |
| 19:27.59 | judgen | Last time i could not =D |
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| 19:28.13 | judgen | btw is there only old versions of wine available for debian? |
| 19:28.14 | metalfoo | judgen: Like you had not registered your nickname. |
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| 19:28.34 | judgen | metalfoo, nope, but it does not matter now.. as it seems to work. |
| 19:28.52 | metalfoo | judgen: Depends on your version of debian. In stable: yes, there's only. |
| 19:29.21 | judgen | i am using squeeze |
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| 19:29.31 | judgen | 1.1.* seems to be the oldest |
| 19:29.34 | metalfoo | Even there, though a more recent version. |
| 19:29.35 | judgen | newest i mean |
| 19:29.44 | metalfoo | Obsolete for sure not. |
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| 19:29.55 | metalfoo | There may be successor though. |
| 19:29.59 | stew | judd: versions wine |
| 19:30.01 | judd | Package wine on i386 -- etch: 0.9.25-2.1; etch-backports: 1.0.0-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-3+b1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3+b1; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
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| 19:30.05 | judgen | i added the repos from the winehq.org site and still in that repo there i no new version (not even the stable 1.2) |
| 19:30.22 | judgen | http://www.lamaresh.net/binary.php |
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| 19:31.17 | jelly-home | judgen: http://www.sk2.org/wine/ |
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| 19:31.40 | jelly-home | judgen: you'll find that if you browse wine or wine-unstable package bug reports |
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| 19:32.30 | maria313131 | ciao |
| 19:32.30 | jelly-home | lamaresh.net debian builds are, by now, almost as much out of date as the official packages |
| 19:32.48 | jelly-home | expects a !list |
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| 19:33.28 | stew | it it does, I'm going to blame you now |
| 19:33.29 | metalfoo | donates jelly-home a "!list" |
| 19:33.52 | jelly-home | thanks! |
| 19:34.05 | metalfoo | Never mind |
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| 19:34.19 | TuxOtaku | anyone here have any experience with Citrix XenServer? |
| 19:34.21 | judgen | jelly, those are 1.2 indeed, but no new versions... |
| 19:34.30 | metalfoo | Tuxist: ##xen |
| 19:34.38 | metalfoo | TuxOtaku, sorry. |
| 19:35.06 | jelly-home | judgen: indeed, but there are sources to build 1.2, which probably need less work to update for 1.2.x |
| 19:35.16 | jelly-home | !tell judgen about uupdate |
| 19:35.53 | jelly-home | or 1.3.x if you're feeling adventurous |
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| 19:39.12 | foetus | drinks diluted sour apple and is learning php...brrr |
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| 19:55.15 | domme_ | moin |
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| 19:55.45 | domme_ | i did apt-get install xen-linux-system-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 xen-tools xen-utils on testing.. |
| 19:56.07 | domme_ | now i have two different kernels in grub... xen something and xen something AND xen-4.0 |
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| 19:56.37 | skrewla | on the debian site in the download section it says "other images (netboot, usb stick, floppy, etc)" whats the name of the usb stick image? |
| 19:56.52 | domme_ | which one should i start? the xen-4.0 entry gives me an error and is rebooting quickly after that |
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| 19:57.18 | domme_ | on the other one xm list says: "WARNING! Can't find hypervisor ifnormation in sysfs!" |
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| 20:01.23 | abrotman | domme_: are they all a .32-5- kernel ? |
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| 20:03.09 | domme_ | abrotman: how do i find out? |
| 20:03.41 | abrotman | look at grub? look in /boot/ ? |
| 20:03.58 | domme_ | yes |
| 20:04.05 | domme_ | everything's 2.6.32-5 |
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| 20:05.15 | domme_ | abrotman: ^ |
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| 20:30.09 | User_007 | hello guys! I am having some problem with my laptop. It have already 2 years but it have ever worked well with Debian. Since last week, after few upgrades i noticed the bios screen don't show up anymore, neither the grub screen. The first thing i see is GDM. |
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| 20:30.49 | User_007 | But i know grub is working cause after booting i pressed down few times and i get working a older kernel. |
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| 20:31.40 | User_007 | I think it is beacuse some updates from Debian, since i use Squeeze, it may be changed something i don't notice. Did any of you know wat must be happening? |
| 20:32.21 | User_007 | (I though it was a bios problem, but i already restored the bios. |
| 20:33.15 | User_007 | (btw i use a Toshiba Satellite A215-S5837 with Debian Squeeze AMD64) |
| 20:35.54 | User_007 | does anyone have a clue? |
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| 20:38.15 | eli_ | how can I install firefox on debian? what should be added to the source list? |
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| 20:38.35 | karlpinc | User_007: Try taking out the batteries and putting them back to clear everything. If it still happens it's gotta be bios or hardware. |
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| 20:38.50 | karlpinc | !tell eli_ about iceweasel |
| 20:39.04 | eli_ | I want the real firefox |
| 20:39.06 | karlpinc | !tell eli_ about firefox |
| 20:39.23 | karlpinc | eli_: You can enable the non-free repos and just install it. |
| 20:39.48 | eli_ | deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 20:40.01 | eli_ | is that the non free repositories? |
| 20:40.07 | karlpinc | eli_: Iceweasel is the real firefox. The only thing that's changed is the branding is removed and security is backported. |
| 20:40.14 | karlpinc | eli_: Yes. You need to "aptitude update". |
| 20:40.26 | eli_ | ok I'll try with that |
| 20:40.43 | karlpinc | eli_: You probably do not want to have the name "stable" in there. You want "lenny". |
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| 20:41.36 | stew | karlpinc: you cannot install firefox from the non-free repositories |
| 20:41.56 | eli_ | okej that's maybe the problem because I still cant find firefox when I hit aptitude search firefox |
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| 20:42.08 | karlpinc | stew: Oh. Sorry. |
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| 20:42.30 | karlpinc | eli_: Better download it from mozilla.org then. |
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| 20:42.57 | stew | there is little reason for us to distribute firefox since iceweasel is the same thing just with a different name and different artwork, especially if it means that we aren't allowed to make security fixes to it |
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| 20:43.05 | karlpinc | eli_: That puts you back in the job of system's integrator, instead of letting the debian team make sure all your software works well together. |
| 20:43.14 | stew | by renaming it to iceweasel we are allowed to make security patches |
| 20:43.33 | eli_ | deb-src http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free is that right for upgrades in lenny? |
| 20:44.17 | stew | eli_: yes, but that is for source packages, not binary packages, you should change deb-src to deb |
| 20:44.30 | eli_ | ok |
| 20:46.30 | eli_ | Im still not able to find firefox, any clues what's wrong? |
| 20:46.46 | stew | eli_: yes, debian doesn't ship firefox |
| 20:46.51 | stew | eli_: its renamed to iceweasel |
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| 20:47.59 | eli_ | this is my sourcelist: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free and this is the command aptitude search firefox. and of course I ran aptitude update first |
| 20:48.36 | domme_ | how can i capture failures on kernel start? |
| 20:48.45 | eli_ | so Im not able to install firefox true the package manage |
| 20:48.56 | cast | eli_: looked in dmesg? |
| 20:48.57 | stew | eli_: "aptitude install iceweasel" |
| 20:49.19 | cast | domme_* |
| 20:49.53 | AHemlocksLie | I'm using ubuntu, but I haven't been able to get help in #ubuntu or ##linux, and this isn't an ubuntu specific problem. I need ndiswrapper, and when I try to modprobe it, I get an error saying FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. Anyone know how to fix this? |
| 20:49.56 | eli_ | so none of you guys in here are using firefox? |
| 20:50.16 | stew | eli_: we are, but it is renamed "iceweasel" its otherwise not any different |
| 20:50.25 | stew | AHemlocksLie: this channel is for debian support, not ubuntu, sorry |
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| 20:50.41 | stew | AHemlocksLie: if you can't get help on irc, perhaps try a mailing list or web forum |
| 20:50.56 | AHemlocksLie | stew: I know, and I normally wouldn't ask, but I've been trying to fix this for like 3 days, and like I said, this isn't a problem with ubuntu itself |
| 20:51.02 | domme_ | cast: i cant boot the system because the error is fatal |
| 20:51.07 | cmdbbq | AHemlocksLie: pm me |
| 20:51.08 | stew | AHemlocksLie: its not a problem with debian |
| 20:51.09 | AHemlocksLie | stew: and I tried #ndiswrapper, but it's just got a couple idlers |
| 20:52.37 | cast | domme_: it a server? |
| 20:53.23 | stew | domme_: what do you mean by "capture"? do you just want a log of what is on the screen? something else? |
| 20:53.37 | stew | domme_: does it fail part way through the boot process? or does it not get the kernel started at all? |
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| 20:54.16 | felipec | hmm, in maemo +0m6 is automatically added to the versions, any idea how to make this work sanely? 0.2-1+0m6 gt 0.2+0m6 |
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| 20:56.49 | stew | felipec: please go to #maemo for help with maemo |
| 20:57.04 | felipec | stew: this has nothing to do with maemo |
| 20:57.13 | felipec | it's about debian versioning |
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| 20:58.07 | stew | felipec: this is a debian specific problem? |
| 20:58.42 | eli_ | I wonder if you can install firefox from the package manager? I know iceweasel is there but still I wonder if Im able to install firefox |
| 20:59.02 | felipec | I guess I'll go for 0.2.0-1 so 0.2.0-1+0m6 > 0.2+0m6, and if I have to make another patch, I can do 0.2.0-2+0m6 |
| 20:59.26 | felipec | stew: what part is not debian-specific? |
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| 21:00.15 | stew | felipec: i have no idea what you are doing, except you seem to be running maemo not debian, this channel is for debian end user support, we don't support derivative distros like maemo or ubuntu |
| 21:01.00 | eli_ | anyone with the knowledge about my firefox question? |
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| 21:01.20 | stew | eli_: you have to find someone who is not debian that has prepared a firefox pacakge |
| 21:01.27 | felipec | stew: apparently you don't know anything about _debian_ package versioning |
| 21:01.31 | stew | felipec: haha |
| 21:01.50 | stew | felipec: i can assure you I do |
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| 21:02.10 | eli_ | okej that's it Im going with iceweasel |
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| 21:02.53 | xuser | eli_: yeah, its just five years old |
| 21:03.16 | xuser | use the backports one which is just less older :P |
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| 21:03.47 | domme_ | stew: a log of what is on the screen |
| 21:03.52 | karlpinc | !tell eli_ about bdo |
| 21:03.57 | domme_ | stew: it does not start at all |
| 21:04.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | right! stew's a total debian-noob... we all knew that all along! |
| 21:04.10 | stew | domme_: can you get it from a serial console? |
| 21:04.17 | domme_ | nope |
| 21:04.33 | felipec | stew: in your _debian_ machine... find a sensible x so: dpkg --compare-versions 0.2 lt ${x} && dpkg --compare-versions 0.2+0m6 lt ${x}+0m6 && echo "bingo!" |
| 21:04.34 | stew | domme_: since it doesn't boot at all you dont' get anywhere near where you could log to a disk |
| 21:05.14 | stew | felipec: more sensible is 0.2+0m6~something |
| 21:05.19 | domme_ | gna |
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| 21:05.40 | domme_ | stew: the real problem is, it's so quickly rebooting i cant copy the error by hand |
| 21:05.54 | domme_ | i tried already to add noreboot option to grub but without any success |
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| 21:06.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | eli_, iceweasel _is_ firefox except for the brand. And the reason it had to be rebranded is a legal one: in short, mozilla doesn't allow the distribution of patched binaries and that would make security support for debian stable impossible... there was some exception and it's a long story |
| 21:06.37 | felipec | stew: stick to the problem |
| 21:06.49 | felipec | 0.2-1 is not good, but 0.2.0-1 seems to be |
| 21:07.02 | stew | felipec: i am sticking to the problem |
| 21:07.05 | eli_ | cutmeownthroat: ok so now we cant find firefox in the nonfree contrib repositories either? |
| 21:07.21 | felipec | stew: then provide a value of x |
| 21:07.22 | stew | eli_: it was never in non-free |
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| 21:07.41 | stew | felipec: 0.2~whatever |
| 21:07.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | no... and there is no need for it, because iceweasel and firefox are identic except for the brand |
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| 21:07.50 | eli_ | ok |
| 21:08.43 | stew | felipec: are you sure you should be creating a debian native pacakge? |
| 21:08.48 | Texou | hi |
| 21:08.58 | Texou | please could someone help me for a problem on Evolution 2.22 (Debian lenny)? I cannot anymree save an attached file. Don't know why. log is here: http://pastebin.com/E9mPR83p |
| 21:09.03 | felipec | stew: x=0.2~1; dpkg --compare-versions 0.2 lt ${x} && dpkg --compare-versions 0.2+0m6 lt ${x}+0m6 && echo "bingo!" || echo "sorry" |
| 21:09.03 | felipec | sorry |
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| 21:10.02 | Texou | no error on terminal when run on commandline |
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| 21:10.32 | stew | felipec: what are you doing exactly |
| 21:10.45 | stew | felipec: are you preparing a debian native pacakge? |
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| 21:12.27 | stew | you have a 0.2-1 pacakge, but you have a new upstream tarball you are packaging now? |
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| 21:13.17 | felipec | stew: let's assume I'm preparing a debian package, but the version is not good in maemo |
| 21:13.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | Texou, you could have set LANG=C before running that... but as most of it is readable anyway, I would say: none of those errors/warnings look as if they were connected to your problem |
| 21:13.26 | felipec | I want it to work on both |
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| 21:13.41 | felipec | 0.2.0-1 solves the problem |
| 21:13.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | all of them that I can make of something at least |
| 21:13.49 | stew | felipec: is it a new upstream source or not? |
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| 21:14.00 | domme_ | http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#CommonErrors the grub2 equivalent is the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" line? |
| 21:14.01 | stew | felipec: you were asking about native package revisions |
| 21:14.27 | domme_ | so it would be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="noreboot" |
| 21:14.30 | Texou | CutMeOwnThroat: errors indicate that files are missing :) |
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| 21:15.03 | Texou | CutMeOwnThroat: and is there any possible explanation? |
| 21:15.12 | stew | felipec: 0.2+0m6 is a native package, but 0.2.0-1 is not |
| 21:15.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | Texou, that bogofilter stuff is on incoming mails, so doen't have anything to do with it in any case |
| 21:15.19 | stew | felipec: which makes me question what you are doing |
| 21:15.44 | Texou | CutMeOwnThroat: right. thats why I dont understand :( |
| 21:15.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | and most of the other errors are downright cryptic and hence don't tell us anything |
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| 21:16.14 | felipec | stew: of course 0.2.0-1 is |
| 21:16.20 | Texou | CutMeOwnThroat: what could I supply more precise? |
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| 21:16.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, dunno |
| 21:16.46 | Texou | :( |
| 21:17.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | never used evolution... but seeing evolution-data-server... oh dear :) |
| 21:17.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could strace it... but that's pretty useless when you don't know exactly what to look for |
| 21:18.28 | eli_ | CutMeOwnThroat: how could ubuntu be shipped with firefox? should't they have the same problem as we have in debain? |
| 21:18.50 | stew | eli_: ask mozilla |
| 21:19.02 | Texou | it seems the problem only appears whet I've to save several attachements. It works when there's one |
| 21:19.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | eli_, I guess you have to ask them that... there are exceptions granted by the mozilla foundation, though and probably they have one |
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| 21:19.11 | felipec | stew: see 5.6.12 Version of the policy: The format is: [epoch:]upstream_version[-debian_revision] |
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| 21:19.31 | felipec | upstream_version=0.2.0, debian_revision=1 |
| 21:19.44 | eli_ | CutMeOwnThroat: ok thanks for the infor |
| 21:19.47 | eli_ | mation |
| 21:19.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | Texou, what version of debian is that? |
| 21:20.00 | Texou | CutMeOwnThroat: lenny |
| 21:20.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions evolution |
| 21:20.07 | judd | Package evolution on i386 -- etch: 2.6.3-6etch2; etch-security: 2.6.3-6etch2; lenny: 2.22.3.1-1; sid: 2.30.3-2; squeeze: 2.30.3-2 |
| 21:20.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | Texou, and that only started to happen recently? |
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| 21:20.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | and in lenny I don't expect any new changes to come in... |
| 21:21.05 | Texou | CutMeOwnThroat: yes. I don't know exactly when but... recently. Probably after an upgrade :( |
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| 21:21.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could check in /var/log/dpkg.log for when it was last upgraded... but lenny only gets security fixes, so it's unlikely to be caused by an upgrade |
| 21:22.24 | Texou | ah |
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| 21:22.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | Texou, you could try with a different user or move the .evolution directory away (if you have root, making a new user would be preferrably, I am not sure if evolution stores _everything_ in .evolution) |
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| 21:23.20 | Texou | CutMeOwnThroat: create an user and copy .evolution dir? |
| 21:23.45 | stew | felipec: trust that I know the policy |
| 21:23.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | no... the problem could be in your user settings |
| 21:24.06 | Texou | right |
| 21:24.15 | danielig | Hi, I have trouble to connect to a simple ethernet LAN-network, I wanted to use networkmanager applet (NetworkManager Applet 0.8.1) but it says eth0 device not managed. I wondered. I tried network-admin but it does not show me the first tab (the one that is supposed to show Hostname, Netmask, and Gateway) |
| 21:24.15 | Texou | I try |
| 21:24.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's not the type of problem where I'd expect it... but then... |
| 21:24.39 | felipec | stew: if you did, you would know that 0.2.0-1 is valid |
| 21:24.40 | stew | felipec: it would be easier to help if you would actually tell us what you are trying to do |
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| 21:24.57 | danielig | I tried using ifconfig to configure my network but did not find out how to set netmask and gateway there... |
| 21:25.15 | stew | felipec: dude, you'll find my name pretty high up on the debian organizational chart, you can trust that I actually know how package versions work |
| 21:25.32 | danielig | and there (developing-country) was not dhcp in the internetcafe ;-( |
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| 21:25.44 | felipec | stew: I told you, I just need a value of x, you don't seem to be able to provide one, so you don't seem be capable of helping |
| 21:25.52 | rvsjoen | for some reason ssh-agent asks me for the key passphrase every time I use it, shouldn't the keyring handle that normally ? |
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| 21:26.54 | abrotman | has a value for x |
| 21:27.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | Texou, I see nothing that looks related on bugs.debian.org/evolution |
| 21:27.25 | xuser | abrotman: does it start with a 'f'? |
| 21:27.40 | abrotman | f(x) :) |
| 21:28.12 | danielig | ;-) |
| 21:28.15 | Texou | CutMeOwnThroat: not very surprised. I see if it is my settings |
| 21:28.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | \o/ - abrotman provided a value for x and saved the day! |
| 21:28.33 | danielig | abrotman is a hero |
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| 21:30.12 | carlos | hello! how do i set fixed ip for a debian server machine? |
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| 21:30.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | "man interfaces" should explain |
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| 21:30.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, man 5 interfaces |
| 21:30.57 | rvsjoen | I did ssh-add -D to delete all identities, and ssh-agent still loads the correct key when I try to SSH out, I can only assume this is done by gnome-keyring, but every time it asks me for the passphrase |
| 21:30.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | !interfaces |
| 21:30.57 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
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| 21:41.11 | Texou | CutMeOwnThroat: ok seems I found a way to succeed. In fact I typed Enter, didn't work, if I do Enter on Save button, it works. Strange but... the most important is solved. |
| 21:42.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm |
| 21:42.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | Texou, that's pretty weird |
| 21:42.44 | Texou | yes |
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| 21:42.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | so you're saying it just doesn't register the mouse click? |
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| 21:45.00 | Texou | well now another problem (but less critical for my daily using): on a sid, installed on an IDE, seems my SATA disk isn't seen by grub and by the system. It's a virtual machine |
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| 21:56.13 | ksx4system | any ideas why 3G modem (Huawei E160, works on other computer with same Debian version and same config files) does not work? command prompt says thad /dev/ttyUSB0 device does not exist |
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| 21:56.43 | ksx4system | ls /dev | grep ttyUSB does not display anything so I think there's no *any* /dev/ttyUSB |
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| 22:01.21 | HTT-Bird | how do I set my box (Debian testing) up to use bash for /bin/sh? |
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| 22:02.10 | jordanm | HTT-Bird: dpkg-reconfigure dash |
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| 22:02.57 | HTT-Bird | jordanm, got it :D |
| 22:03.34 | jordanm | HTT-Bird: although, its likely better to fix broken scripts that declare /bin/sh then proceed to use bashisms |
| 22:04.26 | HTT-Bird | jordanm, sadly, those broken scripts are ones I do not have the right to fix |
| 22:04.39 | HTT-Bird | jordanm, poke Altera m8 |
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| 22:04.56 | HTT-Bird | tbh...it is a trivial fix, just make them use /bin/bash |
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| 22:05.54 | jordanm | right |
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| 22:06.25 | jordanm | I am not sure if changing the shebang is considered altering the code, as far as legal concerns |
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| 22:06.49 | jordanm | although, I hear that is common of proprietary applications that target RHEL |
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| 22:09.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | eek, you said the R word |
| 22:09.42 | linuxman410 | is it possible to make debian install floppies for debian 5.0.6 |
| 22:10.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | !floppy install |
| 22:10.31 | dpkg | [bf] Boot floppies are Debian-Installer images written to floppy disks, then used to install a Debian system. Not available for Lenny/5.0, ask me about <errata>. For Etch/4.0, ask me about <etch floppies>. |
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| 22:11.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | "Due to an increase in the size of the Linux kernel, we are unable to provide installation images for installs from floppy disk." |
| 22:12.06 | linuxman410 | if i install 4.0 from floppies is it possible to upgrade it to 5.0.6 |
| 22:12.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 22:12.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 22:12.31 | jordanm | !usb install |
| 22:12.32 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 22:12.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | and follow the instructions in the factoid |
| 22:12.45 | jordanm | linuxman410: plop -> usb install might also be a possibility |
| 22:13.01 | linuxman410 | do you have a link to images for boot floppies |
| 22:13.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | plop? |
| 22:13.14 | linuxman410 | computer does not have usb |
| 22:13.16 | trifler | bootdiskt.com ? |
| 22:13.22 | trifler | bootdisk.com ? |
| 22:13.36 | linuxman410 | thanks |
| 22:13.43 | abrotman | linuxman410: there are no more boot floppies .. you can go from 4.0->5.0.x |
| 22:13.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | trifler, the words in <> are links to further factoids... you're supposed to "/msg dpkg etch floppies" and dpkg will tell you |
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| 22:14.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 22:14.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | linuxman410, ^^ |
| 22:14.42 | trifler | you tell me son. |
| 22:14.45 | trifler | :) |
| 22:14.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | my |
| 22:14.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | I realized! |
| 22:14.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | just took me a moment |
| 22:15.28 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: I have never used it, but that link says that it can be used to boot floppy, which can then boot a usb stick |
| 22:15.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | !etch floppies |
| 22:15.37 | dpkg | somebody said etch floppies was http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ -- substitute your architecture for "i386". |
| 22:15.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
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| 22:16.07 | linuxman410 | i look at bootdisk .com no debian images for debian 4.0 |
| 22:16.16 | trifler | :D |
| 22:16.17 | trifler | Oh sorry |
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| 22:16.32 | linuxman410 | i mean floppy images for debian 4.0 |
| 22:16.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, oh dear - my mind'S going! It was actually me who added that bit about plop to the factoid... didn't use any floppy function, though and don't remember tha twell |
| 22:16.46 | trifler | That won't happen it's for "gernal" bootdisks. |
| 22:16.50 | trifler | general* |
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| 22:17.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | linuxman410, look above what I told trifler instead of you and I also called up the factoid with the correct link |
| 22:17.24 | trifler | What's wrong with a cd and a netinstall? :S |
| 22:17.28 | IceWewe | I have a question/problem that is rather hard to ask. I have a Gentoo desktop with virtualbox, I'm trying to run an XP VM, the VM hard disk is stored on my server running debian. When booting, the VM performance is fine, once booted, the VM slows to an utter crawl due to the hard disk getting 20-50KB/s read/write. |
| 22:17.36 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: hehe |
| 22:17.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell trifler -about rube goldberg install |
| 22:17.47 | IceWewe | I think it's an NFS issue with my debian server, but the logs on both machines are fine and I just can't track down the exact cause. |
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| 22:18.27 | IceWewe | tl;dr - running virtualbox on a client machine, server running debian, VM hard disk is on server, server mounted to client via NFS. Performance good through VM boot, horrible once VM booted. Ideas? |
| 22:18.46 | linuxman410 | thanks got them |
| 22:18.52 | jordanm | IceWewe: what about without the VM? is the performance ok then? |
| 22:18.59 | IceWewe | jordanm, yup, great. |
| 22:19.03 | abrotman | IceWewe: noatime ? |
| 22:19.03 | trifler | CutMeOwnThroat: Get an external cd. :) |
| 22:19.17 | IceWewe | abrotman, the file system on the server does have atime. |
| 22:19.34 | abrotman | IceWewe: mount it noatime .. that's one thing that might help |
| 22:19.36 | Texou | hmm even with ahci module loaded, sda1 and sdb1 point to the same partition, and sdb1 doesn't have any uuid in /dev/disk/by-uuid. and sda2 and sda3 (IDE) don't appear in uuids too. |
| 22:19.37 | IceWewe | jordanm, abrotman, VM hard disk is on a RAID 5 array on the server, great performance for everything but the VM |
| 22:19.46 | IceWewe | abrotman, even though the filesystem is on a RAID 5 array? |
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| 22:20.06 | abrotman | IceWewe: you do realize how much read/write goes on with VMs? raid5 has to do a checksum for each IO action |
| 22:20.55 | abrotman | IceWewe: why not mount the raid with noatime ? |
| 22:21.37 | Texou | hmm not clear so I re-explain: on one machine, I have an IDE disk with sid; one SATA with testing. I have on sid system problem (sid has grub configuration) in my disks' names and my testing disk doesn't seem recognized |
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| 22:22.19 | IceWewe | abrotman, I agree that mounting via noatime will improve performance (I'm testing it now) but why is performance okay during VM boot and horrible once VM is booted? |
| 22:23.00 | IceWewe | abrotman, ah, nevermind, it's probably because winblows reads a large file when it boots to speed up the process |
| 22:23.47 | IceWewe | abrotman, it's better, the data rate is now 300% of what it was, still only 150KB/s though once booted. |
| 22:23.58 | IceWewe | so slow. |
| 22:24.27 | IceWewe | server load is only 0.75/0.54/0.39 |
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| 22:26.02 | abrotman | IceWewe: i just said .. VMs usually do a crap ton of IO .. i have a bunch fo windows VMs on vmware .. the IO is stupid high |
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| 22:26.40 | IceWewe | abrotman, so what's the bottleneck? mdadm and RAID 5, or xfs? |
| 22:26.54 | jordanm | from what I always understood, its the more writes that *really* kills raid5 |
| 22:26.57 | abrotman | i don't use xfs ... |
| 22:27.03 | IceWewe | there are 5 HDs in RAID 5, over PCI-X 133 64-bit, so I don't think bandwidth is an issue |
| 22:27.34 | IceWewe | I'll copy it to the client machine's local drive (also xfs) and see if performance improves |
| 22:27.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | trifler, can't, I'm also in a cave in the desert and the lion is out to get me if I can't get debian installed... |
| 22:27.46 | abrotman | Device: tps Blk_read/s Blk_wrtn/s Blk_read Bl |
| 22:27.46 | abrotman | sda3 1.51 1.83 27.72 4141884 62 |
| 22:28.02 | abrotman | and that's on the lesser used system ... the other one is much higher |
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| 22:28.19 | abrotman | well .. the higher load one |
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| 22:30.07 | IceWewe | wow, okay, it's painfully slow off the local drive, so now I'm going between XFS and the VM itself |
| 22:31.53 | rvsjoen | whats the 'proper' way of getting compiz to autostart with xfce ? a lot of docs suggest editing some file somewhere deep in /usr/shared/desktop-base/profiles/xdg-config/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc but isn't there a 'debian' way of doing it ? |
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| 22:40.48 | Texou | what's the module for intelAhci controller sata? is it ahci? |
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| 22:44.07 | trifler | CutMeOwnThroat: How do you power you computer in the cave again? :) |
| 22:45.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | trifler, batteries... so hurry up with a solution |
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| 22:48.28 | jordanm | Texou: piix |
| 22:48.56 | Texou | ah |
| 22:48.58 | jordanm | Texou: well, what is the pciid? you can check to be sure |
| 22:49.05 | jordanm | lscpi -nn |
| 22:49.49 | Texou | ok |
| 22:51.21 | Texou | jordanm: lspci -nn says that SATA controller is Intel (but now module loaded) |
| 22:51.41 | stew | Texou: we're interested in the pciid which would lok something like 8086:2829 |
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| 22:52.16 | Texou | ah |
| 22:53.13 | Texou | stew: 8086:2829, lspci says for SATA |
| 22:53.20 | stew | judd: pciid 8086:2829 |
| 22:53.22 | judd | [8086:2829] is '82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'ahci' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2829 |
| 22:53.32 | Bushmills | rvsjoen, i start it from session and startup -> application autostart |
| 22:54.05 | stew | Texou: so yes, it is ahci |
| 22:54.35 | Texou | stew: but is this info (lspci) exact as it appears as my module is loaded? |
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| 22:57.17 | Texou | hmm likely, as even unloaded, same output from lspci. Ok but when I load ahci, it says: Warning: all configfiles need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/bluez, it'll be ignored in a future release". Is it important? |
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| 22:58.23 | jordanm | ,file /etc/modprobe.d/bluez |
| 22:58.28 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 22:58.33 | jordanm | ,file /etc/modprobe.d/bluez --release squeeze |
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| 22:58.36 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 22:58.39 | jordanm | Texou: mv /etc/modprobe.d/bluez /etc/modprobe.d/bluez.conf |
| 22:58.48 | Texou | ok |
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| 23:07.06 | linuxman410 | i downloaded the four floppies but when i try to install it says kernel missing |
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| 23:08.02 | Texou | I'll try tomorrow, goodnight |
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| 23:09.09 | linuxman410 | does anyone know why i am getting the error kernel not found when trying to install from floppy |
| 23:09.51 | jhutchins_lt | linuxman410: The kernel doesn't fit on a floppy any more? |
| 23:10.04 | jhutchins_lt | linuxman410: Where did you get these floppies from? |
| 23:10.16 | yogi | jhutchins_lt: still does, but you need an 8' one 8^) |
| 23:10.19 | peterrooney | wonders if he joined #dsl by accident |
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| 23:10.26 | jeremy_g | hi |
| 23:10.34 | jhutchins_lt | yogi: 8" you mean. |
| 23:10.48 | yogi | jhutchins_lt: 8" was last century |
| 23:10.56 | yogi | jhutchins_lt: in the future will have... |
| 23:11.04 | yogi | (never mind, it was a typo, indeed) |
| 23:11.13 | jeremy_g | i need to convert a wav file into text. the wav file has a receptionist saying "welcome" in a clear american accent. |
| 23:11.27 | linuxman410 | http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ right here |
| 23:11.51 | jeremy_g | i am recording this known audio over a certain channel, so by conversion into text, it will confirm the quality of channel is good |
| 23:13.00 | linuxman410 | it asks which version to install lenny squeeze or sid then it gives error kernel not found |
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| 23:14.32 | linuxman410 | jhutchins_lt did you look at my link |
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| 23:15.48 | jhutchins_lt | Wow, didn't know that still existed. Good on Debian! |
| 23:16.05 | jhutchins_lt | linuxman410: No md5sum for those, bummer. |
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| 23:16.25 | jhutchins_lt | linuxman410: It should start up on the boot floppy then ask for the root one. |
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| 23:16.55 | jhutchins_lt | linuxman410: Ah, there we are, ../md5sums - check each image file. |
| 23:16.57 | jeremy_g | microsoft idiots have such a tool, i need one for linux - there gotta be one. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms717071(VS.85).aspx |
| 23:17.04 | linuxman410 | it does but i still get the error |
| 23:17.51 | jhutchins_lt | jeremy_g: 90% of speech recognition development is done in linux anyway, so I'm sure you're right. |
| 23:18.00 | abrotman | jeremy_g: festival |
| 23:18.09 | jhutchins_lt | jeremy_g: Have you found a speech recognition system that does NOT accept sound files? |
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| 23:18.25 | abrotman | jeremy_g: oh wait .. that is text to speech .. look at sphinx |
| 23:19.03 | jhutchins_lt | linuxman410: Your reply is not clear. Do the image files' md5sums match? |
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| 23:20.51 | linuxman410 | yes but still not working |
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| 23:22.22 | jeremy_g | thanks but I need speech persisted in a wav file to be converted into text. |
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| 23:22.53 | jeremy_g | i have heard of sphinx, festival but from the web they seem to convert real time voice fed into microphone to text |
| 23:24.05 | abrotman | jeremy_g: sphinx can do recordings |
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| 23:30.04 | atude | How do I ignore dependency checks with apt-get? |
| 23:30.22 | abrotman | you don't |
| 23:30.28 | atude | But I need to... |
| 23:30.32 | abrotman | why? |
| 23:30.40 | atude | Because I'm stuck in a dependency loop |
| 23:32.05 | abrotman | atude: paste.debian.net |
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| 23:32.11 | atude | abrotman: ? |
| 23:32.17 | abrotman | show us |
| 23:32.25 | atude | show you what? |
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| 23:32.34 | abrotman | the loop |
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| 23:32.43 | atude | why? I just need a command. |
| 23:33.09 | abrotman | i said there isn't one .. either show us or don't |
| 23:33.25 | atude | you said "you don't" not, "can't" |
| 23:33.26 | atude | sec |
| 23:33.41 | themill | atude: or alternatively, keep your ubuntu questions in #ubuntu. |
| 23:33.41 | atude | pastebin.com/byR017b6 |
| 23:33.52 | atude | themill: yeah, ubuntu is the problem |
| 23:33.57 | atude | i'm getting sick of it |
| 23:33.59 | abrotman | atude: please use #ubuntu for Ubuntu problems |
| 23:34.22 | atude | I'm asking about apt-get, not ubuntu |
| 23:34.25 | abrotman | atude: please use #ubuntu for Ubuntu problems |
| 23:34.31 | atude | I'm asking about apt-get, not ubuntu**** |
| 23:34.34 | AimHere | Ubuntu apt-get is not necessarily debian apt-get |
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| 23:34.51 | abrotman | atude: Ubuntu is offtopic in #debian, use #ubuntu for Ubuntu support. |
| 23:34.52 | AimHere | If it's about apt-get, then take it to #apt-get |
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| 23:35.31 | derick__ | how can I check which user I am currently in a terminal? |
| 23:35.41 | themill | derick__: "id" |
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| 23:35.54 | AimHere | or 'whoami' |
| 23:38.08 | derick__ | k |
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| 23:49.05 | derick__ | sh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub root@192.168.1.108 |
| 23:49.06 | derick__ | /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found |
| 23:49.11 | derick__ | :/ |
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| 23:51.01 | linuxman410 | does anyone know where i can get the 4.0 floppy images at |
| 23:51.17 | streuner | why? |
| 23:51.25 | streuner | just use lenny |
| 23:51.41 | linuxman410 | so i can install on old laptop |
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| 23:52.16 | linuxman410 | i try to use new floppies and it says kernel not found |
| 23:53.04 | linuxman410 | it gives me choice to install lenny squeeze or sid but it does not work |
| 23:53.31 | linuxman410 | it says kernel not found |
| 23:53.52 | linuxman410 | it has no cd or usb |
| 23:53.54 | streuner | !laptops |
| 23:53.54 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about Linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html . For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. Also ask me about <acpi>, <laptop mode>, <netbook>, <pcmcia>, <suspend>. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn . See also the debian-laptop mailing list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 23:55.11 | streuner | throw that crap to the trash |
| 23:55.18 | miasma | linuxman410: heh, i could donate a better laptop for you, but i guess the shipping would be too expensive |
| 23:55.26 | streuner | true |
| 23:55.51 | streuner | you have prolly more headaches then its worse |
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| 23:56.20 | miasma | linuxman410: what kind of specs does it have? is it 586 or newer? |
| 23:56.40 | karlpinc | linuxman410: It'll surely be a headache if it's low on ram. Will it pxeboot? |
| 23:56.47 | linuxman410 | it is a pentium 150 |
| 23:56.54 | streuner | omg |
| 23:57.11 | abrotman | is that all on one core?! :) |
| 23:57.19 | linuxman410 | i only gave 5 dollars for it |
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| 23:57.41 | karlpinc | Could be perfect for a password vault, er, giant clunky safe. |
| 23:57.41 | arcloop | fresh install of squeeze, halfway though boot screen goes black and stays black. attempting to switch vterms does not help. my monitor does not detect a video signal after the screen goes black. ideas? i'm having a poor go with google |
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| 23:58.48 | linuxman410 | never had the problem with desktops debian installs on every desktop i have tried |
| 23:59.04 | jordanm | arcloop: Did you install the desktop task? |
| 23:59.19 | arcloop | jordanm, yes |
