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| 00:01.52 | ajsie | anyone knows how to change user in the terminal? |
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| 00:02.47 | romulusbanda | does any one know how to configure using the autoconf |
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| 00:03.00 | c4pt | anyone using xen with sid + nvidia binaries? |
| 00:03.06 | romulusbanda | I have with header file that gets generated with configure scripts |
| 00:03.25 | romulusbanda | I dont know it really works any pointers |
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| 00:08.02 | c4pt | ?? |
| 00:09.41 | c4pt | i am having a problem i install debian squeeze updated packages to sid (installed xen-hypervisor-4.0 + linux-image-2.6.32.5-amd64-xen) |
| 00:09.58 | c4pt | also ran m-a a-i nvidia for the linux xen kernel |
| 00:10.09 | c4pt | i am using the nvidia driver no problem |
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| 00:10.23 | c4pt | when i reboot with xen.gz X fails to load |
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| 00:11.18 | c4pt | i also tried to disable vga16fb and nouveau and remove all of nouveau |
| 00:11.23 | c4pt | ? |
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| 00:16.44 | skrewla | c4pt: i havent used xen in awhile, but it used to be apain to use xen with X. google about it. |
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| 00:18.05 | skrewla | qemu/kvm are much nicer for user stuff. vmware is good for production. |
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| 00:24.29 | jordanm | skrewla: kvm is good for production too, and the now recommended production solution by RHEL |
| 00:24.54 | jordanm | vbox is the good non-production IMO :) |
| 00:25.43 | skrewla | i guess it's an opinion..=) |
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| 00:26.41 | skrewla | but yeah, surely kvm isn't bad for production. i was just sayin', in my experience, qemu/kvm or vmware are solutions that have'just worked' for me. |
| 00:26.54 | skrewla | whereas xen hasn't.=) |
| 00:27.33 | skrewla | vbox is rather nice as well. i've just used it for installs. |
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| 00:28.57 | skrewla | i have no idea how it scales, though. |
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| 00:31.40 | mee | are many people using lxc in production environments yet? |
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| 00:33.16 | aidan | Do I have to add the www-data user to the www-data group? |
| 00:33.22 | jhutchins_lt | googles lxc |
| 00:33.36 | jhutchins_lt | aidan: Should be there by default |
| 00:33.47 | aidan | ah, it is ... misdiagnosed. |
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| 00:37.42 | gauge | Say, in FreeBSD9.0 whats the default location for xorg.conf? |
| 00:37.56 | jhutchins_lt | mee: Well, it's at least a specific acronym. |
| 00:38.08 | jhutchins_lt | mee: Yes, it's breaking out all over. |
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| 00:53.43 | skrewla | whats the difference between lxc and a zone or jail? or someone point me to a good faq? |
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| 00:59.59 | skrewla | not very much it looks like. |
| 01:01.47 | ksx4system | there's a bug in Debian for MIPS installer. on Lenny I can't ssh to installer, on Testing it works like a charm. |
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| 01:02.30 | term4 | Debian will not reinstall the apache2 package after I used aptitude install apache2 |
| 01:03.01 | stew | term4: do you get an error? |
| 01:03.13 | stew | term4: and what exact command are you running? |
| 01:03.28 | skrewla | term4: that's not vague or anything |
| 01:04.43 | term4 | aptitude remove apache2 & aptitude purge apache2 then aptitude install apache2 and its not re-creating the /etc/apache2 directory. |
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| 01:05.29 | stew | term4: the conffiles are not in the apache2 package, most are in the apache2.2-common package, and some are owned by other packages |
| 01:05.56 | stew | term4: you might "grep -l /etc/apache2 /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list" ot get a list of packages to reinstall |
| 01:06.01 | stew | term4: and /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 01:10.43 | term4 | aptitude -o --force-confmiss reinstall apache2 |
| 01:11.35 | stew | term4: no, wrong package, as I said before |
| 01:11.42 | stew | term4: and re-read /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 01:12.18 | term4 | Somone on this channel recommend not to use apt-get |
| 01:12.35 | stew | apt-get is fine, but aptitude is great |
| 01:12.54 | legis | is it ok to mix them? |
| 01:12.56 | term4 | I did that last time and it screwed up the depencies on the machine. |
| 01:12.57 | jordanm | term4: yes, but your aptitude command is wrong |
| 01:13.01 | stew | legis: in lenny and later, yes |
| 01:13.01 | jordanm | legis: yes |
| 01:13.18 | legis | ok |
| 01:13.32 | term4 | I do not want to use apt-get |
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| 01:14.13 | stew | term4: that's great, we typically recomend aptitude |
| 01:14.25 | term4 | aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>. |
| 01:14.29 | stew | yes |
| 01:14.40 | legis | I just use apt-get to fetch for the source, aptitude lacks that feature I think |
| 01:15.00 | term4 | Would it aptitude -o apache2 --force-confmiss reinstall |
| 01:15.24 | skrewla | should "aptitude update; aptitude -t experimental install chromium-browser" be working after i've added experimental to sources.list on lenny? |
| 01:16.03 | term4 | I am confused with all the switches in the example. |
| 01:16.11 | stew | 21:11 < stew> term4: no, wrong package, as I said before 21:11 < stew> term4: and re-read /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 01:16.41 | stew | term4: "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>" is correct, but replace "<packagename>" with the list of packages you find from the grep comand I gave you |
| 01:16.41 | rvsjoen | skrewla: you need to aptitude update after changing the sources.list |
| 01:16.50 | stew | term4: and multiple times now I've told you that apache2 is the wrong package |
| 01:17.22 | stew | term4: you can "cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2.list" to see what files would be reinstalled if you reinstalled the apache2 package, it wouldn't be what you were looking fo |
| 01:17.23 | term4 | Wrong package? The only other is apache2-common |
| 01:17.31 | stew | term4: what version of debian are you running? |
| 01:17.43 | term4 | Lenny is the current version |
| 01:18.00 | stew | term4: yes, lenny is the current version. It doesn't have a package named apache2-common |
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| 01:18.12 | term4 | I can install it. |
| 01:18.15 | PythonNub | Question |
| 01:18.21 | stew | judd: versions apache2-common |
| 01:18.22 | PythonNub | How would I install debian netinst from the hdd? |
| 01:18.24 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'apache2-common' was found in i386. |
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| 01:18.41 | PythonNub | Or, how would I boot a usb from a floppy? |
| 01:19.33 | term4 | apache2.2-common - Apache HTTP Server common files |
| 01:19.46 | rvsjoen | you can boot usb directly if your bios supports it, otherwise you can use plop |
| 01:20.01 | PythonNub | I don't have access to a plop cd |
| 01:20.13 | PythonNub | and my bois is 12 years old. it doesn't support usb booting |
| 01:20.18 | PythonNub | s/bois/bios/ |
| 01:20.32 | term4 | I removed apache2-common |
| 01:20.56 | rvsjoen | though i've never done it before, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to put plop on a harddisk |
| 01:21.02 | rvsjoen | if you have a spare one |
| 01:21.18 | PythonNub | :\ |
| 01:21.20 | PythonNub | Ok. |
| 01:21.46 | qq- | PythonNub, http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/apas02.html.en#howto-getting-images-hard-disk < see A.2.4. Booting from hard disk |
| 01:21.54 | PythonNub | Thanks |
| 01:22.18 | PythonNub | I need to boot the netinst from a hdd or use a floppy to boot a usb image of the netinst |
| 01:22.46 | qq- | Python1320, read what said |
| 01:23.32 | qq- | PythonNub, ^^ . Python1320 sry |
| 01:23.34 | PythonNub | I did |
| 01:23.37 | PythonNub | reading it |
| 01:24.09 | skrewla | rvsjoen: yeah i have .. several times now. i don't know what i'm doing wrong. i added this to sources.list "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main" did "aptitude update; aptitude -t experimental install chromium-browser" and i get no candidate version found |
| 01:25.00 | term4 | What? DPkg::Options do you use? |
| 01:25.20 | streuner | judd, versions chromium-browser |
| 01:25.21 | judd | Package chromium-browser on i386 -- sid: 6.0.472.62~r59676-1; squeeze: 6.0.472.62~r59676-1; experimental: 7.0.544.0~r61416-1 |
| 01:25.45 | skrewla | im on lenny, is that the problem? |
| 01:25.46 | streuner | skrewla: how about to use pdo? |
| 01:25.56 | streuner | skrewla: sure |
| 01:26.08 | streuner | skrewla: only sid users are able to use experimental |
| 01:26.55 | PythonNub | Thanks a lot, qq- |
| 01:26.59 | skrewla | oh seriously? heh. i just moved to stable from sid. thanks |
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| 01:27.11 | streuner | heh |
| 01:27.18 | term4 | Is dpkg the package name? |
| 01:27.24 | qq- | PythonNub, y'r welcome |
| 01:28.18 | skrewla | what the hell is PdO is that some chem joke? |
| 01:28.31 | streuner | skrewla: /msg dpkg pdo |
| 01:28.52 | streuner | but in that case its useless |
| 01:28.59 | skrewla | yeah, i already had. |
| 01:29.01 | skrewla | thanks |
| 01:29.08 | streuner | np |
| 01:30.03 | term4 | This is the part that I do not understand aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="- |
| 01:30.18 | streuner | maybe you are able to make a backport, but modern browser to compile could be a nightmare |
| 01:31.08 | skrewla | i think i can download one off google, but i just wanted to use aptitude so i could keep it up to date easily |
| 01:32.57 | qq- | skrewla, keep up what , a browser ? heh |
| 01:33.41 | skrewla | i am a bit ocd |
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| 01:34.44 | qq- | !sns |
| 01:34.45 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 01:34.50 | peepsalot | are there statistics on what percentage of people run the various stable, unstable, testing? |
| 01:34.56 | qq- | !ocd |
| 01:34.56 | dpkg | ocd is, like, obsessive-compulsive disorder |
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| 01:35.26 | skrewla | hey, that's why i switched to lenny backports.=) |
| 01:35.51 | SpecR_ | hi all, ive been trying to find the url for the Etch net install CD without any luck, does anyone knows it? |
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| 01:36.05 | streuner | dpkg, etch |
| 01:36.06 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 01:36.31 | term4 | man aptitude |grep DBKG |
| 01:36.32 | SpecR_ | Thanks |
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| 01:36.38 | qq- | peepsalot, hey , Debian is for stable ppls , so why stable is here |
| 01:36.44 | streuner | Spec: but wth you are trying to use etch, its old...? |
| 01:37.02 | streuner | SpecR_: ^^^ |
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| 01:38.01 | streuner | SpecR_: its even not supported anymore... |
| 01:38.10 | leadZERO | ok, I'm a Debian newb... Trying to learn, but where is "netinst.iso" don't see it on http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ |
| 01:38.26 | streuner | !netinstall |
| 01:38.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 01:38.39 | term4 | What? do you mean by this DPkg::Options |
| 01:38.43 | leadZERO | danka |
| 01:38.55 | streuner | term4: did you read /msg dpkg confmiss? |
| 01:39.35 | term4 | Yes |
| 01:39.54 | term4 | In 1970 they used the term mice for mouse. |
| 01:40.14 | term4 | It was kinda of funny then |
| 01:40.27 | streuner | hm, i dont read the option in the man-page for confmiss too, but you should read it |
| 01:40.37 | streuner | just man apt-get |
| 01:40.55 | term4 | I do not use apt-get |
| 01:41.35 | term4 | The last time I used apt-get it messed up the depencie and then the nic card would not come up. |
| 01:41.36 | streuner | hm, use man aptitude then |
| 01:41.44 | term4 | I looked at that page to. |
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| 01:42.20 | streuner | interesting |
| 01:42.29 | term4 | I could not find it |
| 01:42.37 | streuner | amset:/# man apt-get | grep confmiss |
| 01:42.37 | streuner | amset:/# |
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| 01:43.33 | term4 | man aptitude |grep DPkg |
| 01:43.34 | term4 | cyberchatnet:/etc# |
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| 01:44.05 | sonic_baker | Hi, I'm trying to install Sarge from a USB key. I can get the key to boot but it can't seem to find the ISO. Can anyone help? |
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| 01:44.52 | term4 | aptitude [<options>...] {changelog | full-upgrade | |
| 01:44.52 | term4 | download | forbid-version | hold | install | |
| 01:44.52 | term4 | markauto | purge | reinstall | remove | show | |
| 01:44.52 | term4 | unhold | unmarkauto | build-dep | build-depends} |
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| 01:45.11 | term4 | Sorry |
| 01:45.12 | qq- | sonic_baker, use lenny, sarge isn't supported |
| 01:45.45 | sonic_baker | qq-: I need to try an old kernel (2.6.12). That's why I'm trying sarge |
| 01:46.14 | qq- | sonic_baker, take it from ado |
| 01:46.20 | term4 | http://pastebin.com/s7Teuen1 |
| 01:46.20 | streuner | term4: /usr/share/doc/aptitude/en/html sounds promising |
| 01:46.20 | qq- | !ado |
| 01:46.20 | dpkg | Debian has archives of no-longer-supported releases at http://archive.debian.org/ . To use with <APT>, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For old versions of specific packages, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 01:48.32 | term4 | Can you please give me a example from dpkg |
| 01:49.13 | term4 | No file found. |
| 01:49.40 | qq- | term4, use aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename> , and stop all your joke |
| 01:49.51 | sonic_baker | qq-: Do you know which of those versions would have 2.6.12? |
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| 01:50.41 | sonic_baker | qq-: Sorry, I have an ISO. It's the installer that can't find it, after booting up from the USB key |
| 01:50.58 | qq- | sonic_baker, no needs , thake your kernel 2.6.12 from ado , and try it |
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| 01:51.16 | sonic_baker | qq-: You mean install from source? |
| 01:51.40 | yardleydobon | I'm updating my system with synaptic and it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-2.6.32-5-686" |
| 01:51.41 | qq- | no , read above about ado |
| 01:51.43 | term4 | apache2-common is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled. |
| 01:51.46 | yardleydobon | What should I do? |
| 01:52.23 | qq- | !usbinstall |
| 01:52.40 | sonic_baker | !ado sarge |
| 01:52.40 | qq- | !usb install |
| 01:52.46 | term4 | http://pastebin.com/AFbRkrEx |
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| 01:52.59 | sonic_baker | !ado 2.6.12 |
| 01:53.05 | qq- | !ado |
| 01:53.05 | dpkg | Debian has archives of no-longer-supported releases at http://archive.debian.org/ . To use with <APT>, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For old versions of specific packages, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 01:53.46 | sonic_baker | !ado usb |
| 01:54.07 | yardleydobon | http://pastebin.com/p75edUPP |
| 01:54.32 | peepsalot | oh fuck, lyme's disease for 3yrs |
| 01:54.42 | sonic_baker | qq-: Sorry for bothering, do you mean I can apt-get install an older kernel? |
| 01:54.50 | peepsalot | oops, wrong channel |
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| 01:55.13 | septiq | Hi, how can I select the default interface on a multihomed server without manualy editing routes ? eg eth0:1 instead of eth0 |
| 01:55.42 | Moult | i'm looking to setup my own mailserver on debian, any recommendations of the tools required? |
| 01:55.50 | qq- | sonic_baker, yes |
| 01:56.05 | sonic_baker | ah, ok. I'll give that a shot then. Thanks |
| 01:56.15 | streuner | Moult: if you have to ask, just use a smarthost |
| 01:56.36 | skrewla | how do i change run levels in debian again, init/telinit/sysvinit don't work |
| 01:57.07 | Moult | streuner: the question is more of a recommendation, there are many MTAs/imap/popservers to choose from for example, and i like recommendations from people who have had good experiences with one of them |
| 01:57.25 | qq- | sonic_baker, deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main < put it in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:57.59 | streuner | Moult: most people use postfix/exim (MTA) |
| 01:58.19 | sonic_baker | ah, cool Thanks. Actually, I already have ubuntu on the machine. Can I just add this to it's sources or will that mess things up do you think? |
| 01:58.43 | streuner | Moult: a little number use qmail and they know what they use (i hope) |
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| 01:59.05 | qq- | sonic_baker, will mess things hard |
| 01:59.13 | sonic_baker | :) thanks |
| 01:59.18 | qq- | np |
| 01:59.19 | sonic_baker | won't do that then |
| 01:59.39 | streuner | Moult: i personaly use pop3d (110) |
| 01:59.45 | qq- | sonic_baker, but try to debootstarp sarge |
| 01:59.49 | Moult | streuner: ok, ah thanks - do you know why qmail was used instead of the popular choices? |
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| 02:00.03 | streuner | good question |
| 02:00.06 | qq- | sonic_baker, /msg dpkg debootstarp |
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| 02:00.20 | sonic_baker | qq-: Sorry, I don't understand |
| 02:00.55 | qq- | sonic_baker, to test sarge in chroot , install sarge using "debootstarp" |
| 02:00.59 | streuner | Moult: that sounds like a question for #qmail :-P |
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| 02:01.23 | sonic_baker | ok, thanks qq |
| 02:01.30 | sonic_baker | I'll look into that |
| 02:01.33 | cesurasean | IM having issues removing a package with dpkg. I installed it with dpkg -i, and now i don't know how to remove it. Everything ive googled hasn't worked. |
| 02:01.42 | term4 | The reinstall of apache2-common did not work. Can you take a look at this for me please http://pastebin.com/CasVtjYR |
| 02:02.04 | cesurasean | the package name is sc101-nbd_0.03_i386.deb, how can i remove this package without knowing it's apt-get name? |
| 02:02.37 | Xenguy | cesurasean: dpkg -r sc101-nbd_0.03_i386 ? |
| 02:02.51 | cesurasean | that dones't work |
| 02:03.00 | cesurasean | it just brings up a manual for dpkg |
| 02:03.08 | streuner | cesurasean: try dpkg -l | grep sc101 |
| 02:03.45 | cesurasean | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.45 | cesurasean | ii sc101-nbd 0.03 Netgear SC101 NBD server |
| 02:03.50 | Xenguy | cesurasean: it will work if you find the right package name |
| 02:03.53 | cesurasean | so it's called sc101-nbd? |
| 02:03.57 | Xenguy | yep |
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| 02:04.02 | cesurasean | thanks man |
| 02:04.27 | Xenguy | notes cesurasean had the right idea |
| 02:04.48 | Xenguy | er, streuner |
| 02:06.16 | streuner | Xenguy: if i look at sc101-nbd_0.03_i386, it should be clear before for me :-P |
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| 02:07.14 | Xenguy | streuner: not sure what you mean, but my previous comment was intended only as a compliment/acknowledgement |
| 02:07.34 | streuner | sure, but package names doesnt use versions |
| 02:07.49 | Xenguy | ahh, I see now |
| 02:07.54 | streuner | yep |
| 02:07.55 | term4 | None of the examples in dpkg are working |
| 02:08.00 | qq- | Xenguy, you only scared streuner ;) |
| 02:08.16 | Xenguy | qq-: hey, I'm a scary guy sometimes ;-) |
| 02:08.40 | term4 | Can you install apache2 from the source with out messing up the depencies? |
| 02:08.43 | qq- | term4, you find which package contain apache config ? |
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| 02:09.09 | streuner | its prolly in the common package, IIRC |
| 02:09.31 | qq- | streuner, let him find ... |
| 02:09.33 | term4 | How can I find out which file has it? Its most likley in the apache2-common |
| 02:09.51 | streuner | qq-: true :-) usually i got no compliments only pressure :-) |
| 02:09.52 | qq- | , versions apache2-common |
| 02:09.52 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'apache2-common' was found in i386. |
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| 02:10.08 | term4 | Its on my machine. |
| 02:10.24 | qq- | term4, uname -r , says ? |
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| 02:10.53 | term4 | 2.6.34.6-xxxx-grs-ipv6-32 |
| 02:11.05 | streuner | oh |
| 02:11.13 | qq- | term4, go troll else |
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| 02:11.28 | term4 | QQQ I am not troll |
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| 02:11.52 | un214 | trolls taste good |
| 02:11.58 | streuner | running apache on an unstable kernel isnt a good idea |
| 02:12.18 | un214 | in which case I shouldn't run apache at all |
| 02:12.18 | qq- | term4, > ubuntu ? |
| 02:12.24 | un214 | the stable kernel doesn't work for me |
| 02:12.33 | scientes | why apache at all? |
| 02:13.21 | term4 | How about install it from the source> |
| 02:13.25 | streuner | thats not the question |
| 02:14.11 | streuner | term4: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" say? |
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| 02:14.40 | term4 | ii libc6 2.7-18lenny4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 02:15.23 | streuner | term4: but HOW are you installed this kind of kernel? |
| 02:16.22 | un214 | maybe by hand? |
| 02:16.26 | un214 | kernel has no deps |
| 02:16.26 | streuner | term4: (and why arent you using a stable Debian kernel, if you want use apache) |
| 02:17.08 | streuner | other then using in a production area... |
| 02:17.36 | streuner | term4: i mean, if you want to *play*, its ok |
| 02:17.55 | cesurasean | how would i mount a mount: unknown filesystem type 'dataplow'??? |
| 02:18.20 | cesurasean | im trying to get an netgear sc101 to work with debian.... |
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| 02:18.40 | streuner | dpkg, listvals sc101 |
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| 02:18.41 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'sc101' by value returned no results. |
| 02:18.55 | streuner | dpkg, listkeys sc101 |
| 02:18.56 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'sc101' by key returned no results. |
| 02:18.59 | streuner | hm |
| 02:19.03 | term4 | The datacenter where its hosted installed debian. |
| 02:19.19 | streuner | oh, ic |
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| 02:19.34 | abrotman | streuner: you do realize he's actually using Debian, right ? |
| 02:19.54 | term4 | They should be using a standard install of debian |
| 02:20.09 | un214 | I once saw a curious error |
| 02:20.30 | un214 | "apt-get: not found. you my install it by running sudo apt-get install apt" |
| 02:21.02 | term4 | The question is Why? can I re-install the apache2-common package? |
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| 02:21.10 | streuner | abrotman: sure, the hostcenter or such |
| 02:21.12 | abrotman | it would be apache2.2-common |
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| 02:21.23 | abrotman | streuner: no, it's uhm .. ARM or something like that |
| 02:21.33 | term4 | i A apache2.2-common |
| 02:21.47 | abrotman | i can't recall |
| 02:21.54 | kaizen | anyone know how i can fix these two errors plz? /usr/bin/mandb: bad fetch on multi key termcap 5 and /usr/bin/mandb: index cache /var/cache/man/29918 corrupt |
| 02:22.17 | streuner | abrotman: he has still problems to re-create the apache config |
| 02:22.23 | streuner | abrotman: dir |
| 02:22.27 | abrotman | dir? |
| 02:22.30 | streuner | folder |
| 02:22.35 | abrotman | confmiss ? |
| 02:22.36 | cesurasean | im trying to run mount -t ext3 /dev/nbd0 /media/sc101, but it wants me to specify a file system type. I know it's dataplow, but i don't know what to put so utilize this filesystem type! please help! |
| 02:22.52 | streuner | abrotman: thats what we told him an hour or such too |
| 02:23.01 | abrotman | did he actually do it? |
| 02:23.13 | un214 | cesurasean: it means it's probably not ext3 |
| 02:23.20 | streuner | no idea, he asked about what some options mean |
| 02:23.46 | streuner | so, i guess, it didnt work |
| 02:24.09 | streuner | term4: did you use <confmiss> with the package name abrotman gave you? |
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| 02:24.40 | term4 | aptitude full-upgrade Current status: 0 updates [-13]. |
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| 02:25.37 | cesurasean | un214, it's not. how do i find out what it is? |
| 02:26.05 | un214 | file /dev/nbd0 has a good chance of knowing |
| 02:26.08 | chmeee | I seem to have some filesystem corruption. Is it safe to remove files in /var/lib/dpkg? |
| 02:26.30 | streuner | if you have a backup? |
| 02:26.40 | cesurasean | un214, how do i check file /dev/nbd0 to find out? |
| 02:26.49 | un214 | file is a command |
| 02:26.51 | streuner | it surely isnt a good idea to remove files in /var/lib/dpkg |
| 02:27.17 | un214 | yeah doing that breaks you free of the system sources |
| 02:27.27 | chmeee | frak. I don't even know how the corruption occurred, because it's the first reboot post-install |
| 02:27.31 | cesurasean | how do i check which filesystem this dev is using? |
| 02:27.36 | un214 | congradulations, you now have a slackware install |
| 02:27.43 | term4 | I got it |
| 02:27.45 | un214 | doesn't the file command tell you? |
| 02:28.08 | chmeee | guess this means I have to reinstall again |
| 02:28.09 | cesurasean | /dev/nbd0: block special |
| 02:28.15 | un214 | oh man |
| 02:28.26 | un214 | ok try cat /dev/nbd0 | file - |
| 02:28.46 | cesurasean | /dev/stdin: no read permission |
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| 02:29.15 | un214 | funny, works for me |
| 02:29.39 | cesurasean | do i need to chmod /dev/nbd0? |
| 02:29.49 | un214 | ok I can get that error on a nonextand device node |
| 02:30.11 | un214 | or an unreadable device |
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| 02:33.58 | chmeee | Hmm... This is no good.... won't detect hardware because of an incorrect symbol version in /lib/libdebian-installer.so.4 (version LIBDI_4.7 not found) |
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| 02:34.18 | un214 | baad |
| 02:34.46 | chmeee | Is that a sign that my netboot cd is out of date? |
| 02:35.01 | un214 | probably |
| 02:35.06 | jordanm | chmeee: what installer? |
| 02:35.19 | chmeee | jordanm: text installer for ppc64 |
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| 02:35.38 | cesurasean | how do you mount HPFS/NTFS file systems in debian?? |
| 02:36.10 | chmeee | cesurasean: ntfs-3g works well |
| 02:36.44 | cesurasean | so mount ntfs-3g? |
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| 02:37.05 | jordanm | chmeee: which? |
| 02:37.21 | scientes | mount -t ntfs-3g |
| 02:37.26 | Quicken2K | does debian come with lxde on the DVD? |
| 02:37.28 | cesurasean | ntfs-3g doesn't work. what would be the code for using DATAPLOW? |
| 02:37.29 | jordanm | wait, I don't think ppc64 is a supported arch |
| 02:37.37 | scientes | after apt-get install ntfs-3g |
| 02:37.47 | streuner | cesurasean: mount /dev/something /folder |
| 02:38.07 | streuner | cesurasean: on older versions you should use ntfsmount |
| 02:38.08 | abrotman | Quicken2K: it can .. there is an xfce/lxde DVD |
| 02:38.12 | Ambagasdowa | cesurasean: mount.ntfs-3g /dev/x /mnt/ |
| 02:38.28 | Quicken2K | where can I find the LXDE dvd? |
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| 02:38.45 | chmeee | jordanm: I must be confused. There's only one installer for ppc64. I don't know if it's officially supported, but it is available from the official mirrors |
| 02:38.48 | sonic_baker | hey guys, I'm trying to install a minimum system. I'm at the choices page. It says at the moment I have only installed the core of the system. The option 'Standard System' is the only default option in the list. Do I need everything in there? |
| 02:39.06 | sonic_baker | as in do I need the standard system option? |
| 02:39.26 | jordanm | chmeee: you could save some time discussing it and link it |
| 02:40.13 | abrotman | sonic_baker: you technically don't need any of it .. Standard is a generally good idea to install though |
| 02:40.28 | sonic_baker | ok, thanks |
| 02:40.37 | chmeee | hold on, finding it |
| 02:40.54 | sonic_baker | I'll go for it so. Just trying to find the best option for an embedded device |
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| 02:41.09 | somiaj | sonic_baker: does it not say what it installs with the standard system? |
| 02:41.14 | abrotman | sonic_baker: aptitude search '~pstandard' |
| 02:41.38 | jordanm | somiaj: you say that like you have never installed debian :) |
| 02:41.45 | sonic_baker | no, I'm on a fresh install |
| 02:41.59 | somiaj | jordanm: I haven't in many years -- and when I do I use debootstrap |
| 02:42.05 | sonic_baker | don't have aptitude at the moment |
| 02:42.36 | somiaj | I just rember tasksel giving me some basic idea what packages each option was going to install |
| 02:42.52 | sonic_baker | I'm looking into using debootstrap at the moment to install sarge. Is there much involved in it? |
| 02:43.13 | abrotman | sarge? wtf, why? |
| 02:43.24 | abrotman | !tell sonic_baker about emdebian |
| 02:43.42 | chmeee | jordanm: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc64/netboot/ |
| 02:44.31 | sonic_baker | abrotman: Because I'm trying to get a driver written for a specialised piece of hardware and it was written for kernel version 2.6.12. That's why I'm thinking sarge |
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| 02:44.43 | abrotman | jordanm: http://debian-ppc64.alioth.debian.org/ .. hasn't been "released" yet |
| 02:44.53 | abrotman | sonic_baker: get a different piece of hardware |
| 02:45.23 | sonic_baker | I can't. The project has to be finished in two weeks |
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| 02:46.09 | chmeee | This is odd, because I did a successful install on Wednesday of last week. |
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| 02:47.32 | jordanm | chmeee: might want to try the debianppc channel |
| 02:47.45 | chmeee | doing that now |
| 02:47.46 | jordanm | abrotman: I think they used that for the ps3 project that is now dead |
| 02:47.53 | abrotman | ps3? |
| 02:48.03 | chmeee | Figured it's a generic enough error that it might be worth asking in here first |
| 02:48.08 | jordanm | abrotman: playstation 3 |
| 02:48.14 | abrotman | http://wiki.debian.org/PS3 |
| 02:48.18 | abrotman | what's a playstation ? |
| 02:48.40 | abrotman | why are there three of them? |
| 02:48.58 | jordanm | abrotman: sony pushed out an update that removed the ability to install debian |
| 02:49.12 | jordanm | IIRC there was even a class-action lawsuit |
| 02:49.12 | qq- | linux .. |
| 02:49.15 | streuner | oh great |
| 02:49.44 | jordanm | sold his not long after |
| 02:49.45 | abrotman | jordanm: in england, not here |
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| 02:49.53 | jordanm | abrotman: ah |
| 02:53.14 | Kaizen | anyone know how i can fix these two errors plz? /usr/bin/mandb: bad fetch on multi key termcap 5 and /usr/bin/mandb: index cache /var/cache/man/29918 corrupt |
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| 02:54.31 | sonic_baker | Hi guys, I've just installed debian to an SD cars as the 2nd OS on a PC/104. Now when I reboot, I can't get past the initial 'Press F2 for Setup, F12 for Boot Manager' screen. Any suggestions? |
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| 02:57.17 | fishcooker | i've problem with printing size ... it's over a4... i thinks a3 |
| 02:57.22 | fishcooker | how to make it happen |
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| 02:57.42 | sonic_baker | Uh oh,... I can't get to setup or boot manager. Which means I can't boot from USB anymore either.... which will pose problems for a re-install... |
| 02:57.47 | jordanm | Kaizen: try mandb -c |
| 02:58.01 | fishcooker | in openoffice |
| 02:58.31 | jordanm | a4 and letter are your typical paper sizes |
| 02:58.55 | fishcooker | huhu |
| 02:59.06 | fishcooker | if i want to make a3 or a2 |
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| 02:59.55 | jordanm | fishcooker: should be able to change from the print dialogue, or change the default from the cups interface |
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| 03:02.03 | Kaizen | jordanm thank you, looks like that fixed it |
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| 03:16.54 | cantido | Im using HDMI on an Nvidia ion based machine and the display doesnt fit on the actual screen.. any ideas? |
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| 03:21.41 | cantido | xxtjaxx: it's a tv.. it doesnt seem to have one :/ |
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| 03:26.55 | PythonNub | hey guys, i need some help with my debian installer |
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| 03:27.01 | PythonNub | I'm using the netinst package |
| 03:27.06 | PythonNub | and it's missing firmware |
| 03:27.20 | PythonNub | where would I get firmware for a zd1211rw wlan card? |
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| 03:30.56 | somiaj | PythonNub: firmware is a part of non-free and as such isn't on the DI -- check packages.debian.org/zd1211-firmware |
| 03:31.17 | PythonNub | Thanks |
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| 03:34.28 | jordanm | xxtjaxx: from my experience, that only works over VGA anyways |
| 03:35.32 | cantido | ok, the nvidia-settings app can adjust the overscan.. woo! |
| 03:36.14 | PythonNub | Question, the zd1211-firmware package says it depends on teh zd1211-module pakcage, but it's unavailible. |
| 03:36.14 | PythonNub | what should I do? |
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| 03:36.48 | PythonNub | Sorry disconnected |
| 03:37.08 | somiaj | PythonNub: suggests -- I doubt its needed think the module is just going to be in your kernel -- that is os -- the firmware isn't and that is why its packages sepertally |
| 03:37.43 | PythonNub | So, the zd1211-module is internal to debian netinst, but zd1211-firmware isnt? |
| 03:37.46 | PythonNub | O.o |
| 03:38.04 | somiaj | probabaly an old dependency for versions in which the module wasn't apart of the main kernel tree -- but over recent years the main kernel tree as incoropraited a lot of these wireless cards modules |
| 03:38.25 | PythonNub | Ah, I see. so if i just load the zd1211-firmware it should work? |
| 03:38.46 | somiaj | the module is open source -- thus its free by debian standards and is a part of the linux kernel -- problem is the module needs firmware, which is non-free (by the DSFG -- i.e. the producer of the chip has rights to it) |
| 03:38.52 | Xenguy | !firmware |
| 03:38.53 | dpkg | Firmware (sometimes termed "microcode") is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel modules require firmware to be provided from userspace, prior to device operation, notably for <WiFi> devices. Ask me about <listkeys firmware> and <search> my factoids. Some firmware is available via Debian packages. See also http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware and <installer firmware>. |
| 03:38.57 | PythonNub | Ah ok |
| 03:39.06 | PythonNub | well then, see ya in a bit - gonna go try it :P |
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| 03:39.19 | somiaj | PythonNub: you should be able to dpkg -i that deb into your system and bring your card up |
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| 03:41.02 | cesurasean | how do i mount an DataPlogSFSZ filesystem in debian? |
| 03:41.13 | cesurasean | DataPlowSFSZ |
| 03:41.14 | cesurasean | sorry |
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| 03:46.44 | yagoo | is surprised to read some goofball wrote at PC world that the Linux desktop dream is dead |
| 03:47.06 | yagoo | cesurasean, should be the same.. as long as the module is loaded |
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| 03:53.46 | cesurasean | yagoo, what do you mean the same? it looks like you need dataplow drivers. are these available on debian? |
| 03:53.53 | cesurasean | or is it something you have to pay for? |
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| 03:56.03 | cesurasean | writing inode tables 1530. how much hard drive space would that actually be? anyone? |
| 03:56.36 | cesurasean | I ran "mkfs.ext2 /dev/nbd0" - what exactly is that command going to do? |
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| 03:56.49 | cesurasean | connect to my NAS, and format the entire drive array??!! |
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| 04:00.17 | yagoo | cesurasean, isnt' that a cluster filesystem? |
| 04:01.13 | yagoo | cesurasean, it appears commercial and their documents are "secret" |
| 04:01.43 | yagoo | cesurasean, otherwise i would be able to view and help reading those documents publicly.. |
| 04:01.51 | yagoo | -_- |
| 04:03.06 | yagoo | hopes kbasic gets fed into debian.. failed to run on linux |
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| 04:11.51 | T-Co | I ran into this problem http://debian.pastebin.com/RgEurv68 when trying to compile apr-1.4.2 I gathered that it might be because too old libtool. Is it possible to compile ewer libtool, or does someone know a solution? |
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| 04:13.26 | T-Co | I'm running lenny |
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| 04:17.07 | jordanm | T-Co: what is wrong with the debian provided apr? |
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| 04:20.05 | slogan1 | buenas alguien conoce algun metedo para cuando me loguee por ssh solo pueda hacerlo desde mi pc, como por ejemplo a nivel de hardware |
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| 04:20.14 | jordanm | !es |
| 04:20.14 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 04:21.01 | muddd | awesome |
| 04:21.16 | muddd | !awesome ? |
| 04:21.16 | dpkg | it has been said that awesome is a dynamic floating and tiling <window manager>. http://awesome.naquadah.org/ #awesome on irc.oftc.net. |
| 04:21.33 | muddd | double awesome |
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| 04:26.42 | PythonNub | problem with my debian install |
| 04:26.49 | PythonNub | I downloaded the firmware package |
| 04:26.58 | PythonNub | and when i tried to boot the iso agaibn |
| 04:27.04 | PythonNub | when it asked me to load the module |
| 04:27.09 | PythonNub | it didn't load it |
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| 04:28.01 | T-Co | jordanm, I guess nothing. It is 1.2.12. I like to run latest software. But I guess in this case I don't have much of a choice. |
| 04:29.12 | somiaj | T-Co: look up backports if you want to run a newer piece of software on lenny (/msg dpkg backports) |
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| 04:29.48 | somiaj | T-Co: latest is not always better but sometimes its nice to be able to get new features if they are needed without drifting away from a stable system |
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| 04:32.42 | penrod | greetings: does the default/stock kernel in lenny have support for pptp built in or do I have to build a custom kernel ? |
| 04:34.23 | somiaj | penrod: if you have it installed just check /boot/config-kernver |
| 04:34.31 | somiaj | penrod: grep it for the config options you want to check |
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| 04:36.38 | T-Co | somiaj, Thanks. |
| 04:36.40 | penrod | somiaj: ah that is where the config file is, thanks kindly |
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| 04:39.45 | PythonNub | qq-: what's the link to booting from a hdd, again? I'm sorry, but i lost the link |
| 04:40.35 | qq- | PythonNub, http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/apas02.html.en#howto-getting-images-hard-disk < see A.2.4. Booting from hard disk |
| 04:40.52 | PythonNub | ah thanks |
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| 04:47.51 | yagoo | !pptp |
| 04:47.51 | dpkg | [pptp] Point to Point Tunneling Protocol, a very insecure and unreliable way to create tunnels; consider <openvpn>, <ipsec> or <l2tp> instead. A few unfortunate ISPs use PPTP to provide service on Ethernet connected broadband networks. If you have to connect to a PPTP server, you can try using pptpsetup (pptp-linux package), kvpnc or network-manager-pptp. See also <why not pptp>, <vpn>, <poptop>, <mppe>. |
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| 04:52.25 | ddalton | can anyone help me build wpasupplicant from source? |
| 04:52.42 | ddalton | can anyone help me build wpasupplicant from source? |
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| 04:53.55 | peterrooney | !source |
| 04:53.55 | dpkg | As an overview: to work with Debian source packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a location with free space; download the source package with <apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use <dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details, also ask me about <package recompile> <backport> <nmg> <policy> <source package> |
| 04:55.21 | ddalton | no |
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| 04:55.35 | ddalton | i need to build a completely new package from off the net |
| 04:55.47 | ddalton | cos the one in debian seems to have bugs or not be new enough |
| 04:56.08 | ddalton | or could i replace debian's wpasupplicant with one from ubuntu? cos that seems to work |
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| 04:59.37 | ddalton | !can anyone help? |
| 04:59.37 | dpkg | Don't bother asking things like "can anyone help with foo" or "are there any experts here on bar"... you'll never get an answer. Just ask your question up front, and if anyone knows the answer, they'll help you. |
| 04:59.54 | ddalton | wtf |
| 05:00.11 | muddd | well, you know |
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| 05:00.56 | qq- | !next |
| 05:00.57 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 05:01.18 | muddd | I like that one |
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| 05:03.13 | qq- | !nowpa |
| 05:03.13 | dpkg | The following Linux wireless LAN device drivers do not support WPA: <acx>, <at76_usb>, <at76c50x-usb>, <atmel_cs>, <atmel_pci>, <orinoco_usb>, prism2_cs, prism2_pci, prism2_plx, <prism2_usb>, spectrum_cs, <zd1201>. The <airo>, <hostap> and <orinoco> drivers require specific minimum firmware versions for WPA support. See also <ndiswrapper>. |
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| 05:39.46 | aidan | Anyone recommend a lite SMTP server? I don't need to receive email, just send a few messages per day. |
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| 05:42.48 | joltcan | aidan: nullmailer |
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| 05:48.58 | aidan | joltcan: do I need access to a fixed set of smart relays for that? |
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| 05:51.47 | karsten-nr | I was asking yesterday about thinkpad 410s audio. Found the solution: http://markmail.org/message/45z7fxqhqzr22emc |
| 05:52.02 | karsten-nr | modprobe snd-hda-intel; echo '8086 3b57' > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/HDA\ Intel/new_id |
| 05:52.16 | karsten-nr | ... any ideas where to factoid that apppropriately? |
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| 05:53.26 | karsten-nr | aidan: Though IME, setting up exim with a smarthost is a pretty good alternative and buys you flexibility. There's neglible system overhead, it just works, etc. nullmailer is the "correct" solution though. |
| 05:54.03 | karsten-nr | aidan: And yes, you'll need somethign to relay through. Residential / consumer IP space is pretty much blacklisted for mail transport. |
| 05:56.24 | joltcan | aidan: Oh, that is a good question. Maybe it is to dumb. Exim-light then? |
| 05:56.47 | karsten-nr | joltcan: That'd be my solution. Handles local mail delivery as well. |
| 05:57.16 | karsten-nr | joltcan: I'm mostly just using IMAP and SMTP through clients on my new laptop, but that's 'coz I haven't got to the SMTP config yet. |
| 05:58.17 | karsten-nr | joltcan: Most mail clients will handle talking to an upstream server for you. This means you can't, say, send mail from arbitrary commandline clients or programs, but if you're always using, say, mutt or kmail/kontact, or evolution, etc., you're OK. |
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| 06:20.20 | aidan | I'm trying to get nullmailer set up with Google's SMTP serer |
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| 06:20.30 | dongs | hi. |
| 06:20.31 | dongs | [ 2843.380000] dvb_core: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module |
| 06:20.35 | dongs | cause/fix please |
| 06:20.45 | KB1JWQ | lol dongs |
| 06:20.48 | dongs | indeed. |
| 06:20.59 | aidan | smtp.gmail.com smtp --port=465 --user=team@virtualexplorer.com.au --pass=foobar .. I see only this in my logs: Sending failed: Protocol error |
| 06:21.04 | dongs | i couldnt have said it better myself. |
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| 06:21.16 | KB1JWQ | aidan: 465 is deprecated, for one. |
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| 06:21.48 | dongs | any idea how to fix it though? 'lol dongs' didnt work. |
| 06:22.09 | KB1JWQ | aidan: 465 expects SSL for another. :-) |
| 06:22.20 | KB1JWQ | dongs: Are you on Lenny? |
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| 06:23.11 | dongs | KB1JWQ: i'm on Linux. I don't think this is distribution specific whatsoever. |
| 06:23.22 | dongs | if it helps, im crosscompiling for a 300mhz embedded system. |
| 06:23.26 | KB1JWQ | dongs: No, but it's very version specific, hence my question. |
| 06:24.19 | KB1JWQ | http://kerneltrap.org/node/4597 Pointer, but not that helpful. |
| 06:24.36 | dongs | thats 1st google hit for that error message |
| 06:24.44 | dongs | I've already gone through several pages of google for that query |
| 06:24.49 | dongs | but thanks for re-running it for me. |
| 06:25.03 | KB1JWQ | No, but the first reply seems relevant; is there a kernel version mismatch? |
| 06:25.12 | dongs | (do you think google cached the resutlts and you and me saw eaxctly same pages)? |
| 06:25.23 | dongs | i've used the included kernel source |
| 06:25.31 | dongs | rebuilt it, adding in some custom drivers |
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| 06:25.41 | dongs | so techncially, no , there should be no kernel version difference. |
| 06:25.57 | KB1JWQ | dongs: Most unlikely that google cached the results; that's not how they're architected. :-) |
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| 06:35.41 | aidan | KB1JWQ: oh, swtiched to 485 because I was getting this: nullmailer[11735]: smtp: Failed: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. |
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| 06:38.45 | dongs | so any other good ideas? |
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| 06:49.30 | aidan | ah nullmailer doesn't support starttls |
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| 07:08.21 | Burps | Hi : is there an option in th visudo syntax so that a specific "sudo XXX" command is not logged ? |
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| 07:09.33 | dongs | [ 7467.160000] dvb_core: no symbol version for struct_module |
| 07:09.36 | dongs | plot thickens. |
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| 07:18.27 | aidan | I'm following this, but I get http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/ .. no module named smtp. |
| 07:21.34 | aidan | 010-10-19 07:17:31 Exim configuration error in line 798 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp: authenticator gmail_smtp: cannot find authenticator driver "smtp" |
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| 07:29.14 | benzzzzz | hi |
| 07:30.23 | yagoo | benzzzzz. hihi |
| 07:30.27 | benzzzzz | I'm trying to boot IA64 using tftp-hpa and dhcp3 from a 32-bit server. I can see that my client asks for the right file (elilo.efi) in the logs, but nothing happens after that. Is there something I missed ? |
| 07:30.56 | benzzzzz | BTW, my tftp-hpa/dhcp combo is fully working for x86... |
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| 07:31.16 | yagoo | benzzzzz, do u mean itanium64? |
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| 07:31.43 | yagoo | nmind |
| 07:32.04 | yagoo | lol |
| 07:33.03 | benzzzzz | yep I mean itanium... |
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| 07:33.36 | yagoo | xD |
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| 07:34.43 | yagoo | benzzzzz, can than ita64 hardware actually run x86 32-bit abi linux? |
| 07:34.58 | benzzzzz | yep, theoritically |
| 07:34.59 | yagoo | ,/that/than |
| 07:35.12 | yagoo | benzzzzz, well u gotta check the hardware specs on that.. |
| 07:35.31 | benzzzzz | I already checked them... |
| 07:35.50 | HackeMate | hello, I want to make my computer as firewall, so I want to filter everything my router read |
| 07:35.52 | HackeMate | how can I do that? |
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| 07:36.04 | yagoo | I don't use that architecture but i do know there's a whole branch for ita64 |
| 07:36.38 | benzzzzz | yagoo: ok thanks, I'll triple check my config |
| 07:37.07 | yagoo | benzzzzz, why not use the ia64? |
| 07:37.11 | Bushmills | HackeMate, reading docs about iptables would be a good start |
| 07:37.35 | HackeMate | Bushmills: but I heard iptables is only for my own computer, like a normal firewall on windows, not about other computers on my lan |
| 07:37.38 | HackeMate | is it correct? |
| 07:37.56 | Bushmills | no. iptables is for computers running linux |
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| 07:38.15 | yagoo | HackeMate, iptables is the firewall for linux |
| 07:38.49 | Bushmills | it can be configured as firewall on a router, if the router runs linux |
| 07:39.08 | yagoo | HackeMate, Windows does not use iptables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iptables |
| 07:39.11 | HackeMate | but the router is a white box i have in my home, not a computer |
| 07:39.21 | Bushmills | but if your debian machine acts as gateway, it can server as firewall for the whole LAN |
| 07:39.27 | HackeMate | ok, i will start read that |
| 07:39.32 | HackeMate | aah, my debian as gateway |
| 07:39.33 | yagoo | HackeMate, the software is running off a linux-made software.. |
| 07:39.35 | HackeMate | that makes sense |
| 07:39.35 | Bushmills | serve .. |
| 07:39.53 | HackeMate | ok |
| 07:39.54 | HackeMate | thanks both |
| 07:40.35 | Bushmills | wonders why a computer can't be a computer only because it sits in a white box |
| 07:40.36 | yagoo | HackeMate, people like to hack those boxes to improve firewall capabilities.. |
| 07:41.02 | Bushmills | my router is in a white box too, and it runs linux, and iptables |
| 07:41.33 | HackeMate | i think my router is a silly one |
| 07:41.41 | HackeMate | doesnt have much features |
| 07:41.47 | Bushmills | brand? model? |
| 07:42.12 | HackeMate | zyxel olos 4610 RD |
| 07:42.15 | HackeMate | olos=Solos |
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| 07:44.48 | Bushmills | seems there's no freely available linux for it. you might want to use a "normal" computer as firewall |
| 07:45.27 | HackeMate | yes, that is my plan |
| 07:45.50 | HackeMate | so do you think i can use my desktop computer with debian to configure iptables, and firewall all? |
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| 07:46.02 | Tribaal | Hi all |
| 07:46.12 | Bushmills | it is possible to do that. whether you can, is a different question |
| 07:46.29 | HackeMate | well, i will study much as neccesary |
| 07:46.38 | HackeMate | if is possible, i can, why not? |
| 07:46.39 | Bushmills | i'd say, right now you can't, and after studying some docs you can |
| 07:46.51 | HackeMate | right, so there i go |
| 07:46.59 | Tribaal | I'm having trouble finding documentation on how to configure OPenLDAP on Debian 6 - it uses the new dynamic configuration, and I'm really not familliar with it. Can anybody point me to a decent(ish) guide? |
| 07:47.41 | yagoo | Tribaal, /usr/share/doc/<package> ? |
| 07:48.17 | yagoo | Tribaal, hope this helps-> http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP |
| 07:48.19 | yagoo | :/ |
| 07:48.38 | yagoo | gtg bye |
| 07:48.40 | yagoo | !ldap |
| 07:48.41 | dpkg | [ldap] Lightweight Directory Access Protocol, a client/server protocol for accessing a directory service. It is a lightweight version of the X.500 protocol. Ask me about <openldap>. http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Ldap #ldap on irc.freenode.net. |
| 07:48.43 | yagoo | hooya |
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| 07:51.30 | Tribaal | I wish it was that simple - wiki.debian.org refers to the "old version" of slapd configuration (using a slapd.conf file living in /etc/ldap). It is now configured via LDAP itself (at least in the default installation option)... So it makes this guide irrelevant |
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| 07:51.41 | v_V | w/ |
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| 07:51.58 | Tribaal | Hence me asking here instead of using google or similar :) |
| 07:53.47 | Tribaal | So does anybody know of a piece of documentation on the transition from a file-based configuration to a dynamic configuration for slapd? I'm sure it's quite simple a transition - I just need to understand it :) |
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| 07:56.47 | magesing | Hi everyone, I have a bit of a messy partition setup, my /boot is at hd(0,6) and / is at /dev/sda3 . My problem is, whenever I update to a newer kernel with aptitude it sets up /boot/grub/menu.lst to look at hd(0,0) and /dev/sda1 . Of course I never remember this until I restart the system and grub can't find the kernel! How can I set up my system so that when I run a kernel update I will automatically have a working bootloader configuration? Thanks. |
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| 08:03.42 | sts | hello folks. I'm trying to do a package upgrade and APT found the following conflict, does anybody know what I can do to resolve this? http://pastie.org/private/mfthinq7xssqqxk2frj0a |
| 08:03.52 | sts | I don't want to remove RT3.8 |
| 08:04.13 | Tribaal | !slapd |
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| 08:10.48 | HackeMate | a question, should I have 2 ethernet devices in my computer to use iptables as lan firewall? |
| 08:10.55 | HackeMate | i was reading some tutorials and they use 2 |
| 08:11.37 | Burps | HackeMate: it's much better : one for internet side, the other for LAN side |
| 08:11.58 | HackeMate | but i can't do that, at least for now, could it work anyway with only one ethernet? |
| 08:12.18 | Burps | it might be possible, but not for beginners... |
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| 08:15.02 | robokop | HackeMate: if you have a way to enforce your other computers on the lan to have a default gateway through your computer which you want to use as a firewall it is possible |
| 08:15.32 | HackeMate | i can configure its gateway no? |
| 08:15.40 | robokop | and then it is degraded from hard to not trivial |
| 08:16.06 | robokop | HackeMate: you need to enforce that, so it depends how much control you have over these systems |
| 08:16.30 | robokop | so you should not allow local users to alter the route tables on those machines |
| 08:16.54 | HackeMate | i just need change the gateway to my local ip, right? |
| 08:17.08 | robokop | indeed |
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| 08:17.44 | robokop | and i recommend using shorewall or something for the firewall + virtual ethernet device |
| 08:18.02 | robokop | it makes it a lot easier manageble then just plain iptables |
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| 08:18.13 | HackeMate | aha |
| 08:18.18 | HackeMate | thanks |
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| 08:19.08 | robokop | on the firewall machine you should make a virtual ethernet device that only talks to the lan, and one that only talks to the wan |
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| 08:19.35 | robokop | both use infact the same physical device |
| 08:20.06 | HackeMate | a sort of vpn, no? |
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| 08:20.26 | robokop | not necessary |
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| 08:21.24 | robokop | you can make virtual devices (google for it, cause i don't know by heart how) |
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| 08:22.20 | HackeMate | the tip was enough, thanks, i will google |
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| 08:22.33 | chilli0 | Hello, How can I allow people mounting over samba to delete files to trash? |
| 08:22.49 | homecable | why am i geting thos A's Saving to: âlinux-2.6.35.7.tar.bz2â |
| 08:22.51 | homecable | like that |
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| 08:25.57 | angel-tsankov | is looking for an icon theme that has icons for locations "trash" and "home" |
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| 08:29.04 | jelly | chilli0: I don't think samba shares have the trash folder functionality |
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| 08:31.57 | sts | if i accidentally edited a file which comes from a debian package. how can I reinstall the file from the package? |
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| 08:34.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | depends... aptitude reinstall package or |
| 08:34.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | !confmiss |
| 08:34.31 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>. |
| 08:35.20 | sts | CutMeOwnThroat: it's not about a config file. |
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| 08:35.40 | akis | is there any possibility for debian to recognize my pcmcia tp-link wl310g wireless card? |
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| 08:36.06 | Bushmills | sts, you can open .deb archives with mc, and interactively copy files from it |
| 08:36.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | I answered both cases |
| 08:36.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | why'd he want to do that, though... and why with mc? |
| 08:36.56 | Rugxulo | a .deb is just an ar archive anyways ... |
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| 08:36.57 | Bushmills | aside from unpacking the archive with ar, and copying the file |
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| 08:37.21 | Vardan | hi all |
| 08:37.26 | Bushmills | CutMeOwnThroat, point and shoot |
| 08:37.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | *pang* |
| 08:40.26 | sts | reinstall worked! great than you CutMeOwnThroat. I didn't know that reinstall does exactly what it says (always had to mess with config files :-)) |
| 08:40.26 | Vardan | people I have problem with debian+svn. there is lots of "svnserve -t" processes ran on server, but in real no one use svn. |
| 08:40.26 | Vardan | what can be the problem? |
| 08:40.26 | sts | Vardan: maybe the processess got stuck for some reason? |
| 08:40.27 | sts | and didn't die. |
| 08:40.32 | Vardan | and what reasons can be? |
| 08:40.51 | sts | dunno. you could try to strace them. |
| 08:41.12 | Vardan | also I user svn via ssh, and sshd processes are not die too |
| 08:41.27 | Vardan | maybe sshd not allow to die svnserv process? |
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| 08:42.16 | sts | Vardan: the sshd processess should die as soon as your svnserve returns. if its stuck for some reason, the sshd processess won't die either. |
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| 08:42.50 | Vardan | so first should svnserv die then sshd |
| 08:42.52 | Vardan | ? |
| 08:43.03 | sts | first the child, then the parent. yes. |
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| 08:43.38 | sts | but i never really used svnserve, was just a rough guess. |
| 08:44.12 | delby | hi here, can someone please refer me to the official documentation on how to install squeeze(testing) and sid(unstable) packages on lenny? |
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| 08:48.12 | akis | could you please show me the link for debian live cd? |
| 08:48.29 | delby | anyone? |
| 08:49.21 | sts | delby: man aptitude -> have a look at "-t" |
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| 08:49.41 | Bushmills | i doubt there is any "official" docs on that, as mixing stable with testing or even unstable is not encouraged |
| 08:49.43 | delby | sts: thanks. |
| 08:50.00 | sts | delby: so aptitude -t squeeze puppet should install the puppet package from squeeze. |
| 08:50.11 | sts | s/-t/install -t/ |
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| 08:51.07 | Rugxulo | akis, i386? |
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| 08:51.52 | sts | delby: if you want to change the priority from a release over the default release, you could look into apt pinning. |
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| 08:52.26 | sts | delby: here is my /etc/apt/preferences which defines that a couple of packages should always be sourced from backports instead of stable: http://pastie.org/private/5iy955virq1d75j3hdleba |
| 08:52.51 | sts | delby: you could do the same for squeeze, etc. |
| 08:53.19 | akis | yep |
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| 08:53.43 | CissWit | delby: see "man apt" "man aptitude" "man sources.list" and "man apt_preferences" |
| 08:53.55 | CissWit | you should find all docs you need there |
| 08:54.10 | CissWit | and you will be redirected on better docs, if needed |
| 08:54.19 | delby | thanks all. will read everything as suggested. |
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| 08:56.57 | Rugxulo | akis -> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/iso-cd/debian-live-506-i386-standard.iso |
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| 09:04.55 | centos-user-az | plz help me where to start learning debian |
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| 09:06.24 | CissWit | centos-user-az: there http://www.debian.org/doc/index.en.html is a good place. You can try a book like this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1565927052?ie=UTF8&tag=lddistrofckd-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=1565927052 too. |
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| 09:12.50 | gypsymauro | I've asuggestion for debian installer, when you choose with tasksel that to install it begins to download and install the system and packages but there is not a way to stop this process and come back to tasksel, it would be nice to do this, where is the right place to send this suggestion? |
| 09:13.34 | gypsymauro | (for example I've used a netinstall and it taked almost 2 hours to download packages via internet) |
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| 09:13.58 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: apt is interruptable |
| 09:14.48 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: You can kill the process pretty much at any point. If it's reached the point of installing packages, you may be left with a semi-usable system. But it should be recoverable. |
| 09:14.52 | gypsymauro | karsten-nr: apt for sure but not from the debian installer process |
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| 09:15.07 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: chroot install :) |
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| 09:15.41 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: You start with a minimal system, that installs quickly. Everything past that point is just standar package installs. Yes, you've got a bit of hand-configuring to do. |
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| 09:16.02 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: You can also do a minimal install which has much the same effect, but without the hand-configuring. |
| 09:16.12 | gypsymauro | karsten-nr: yes I know, but I think for all kind of users it's better to have a [cancel] button on debian installer interface |
| 09:16.29 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: Why would you want to cancel an installation? |
| 09:16.38 | akis | thanks. is it a kde desktop? |
| 09:17.09 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: ... I mean, at that point, you don't have a usable system, to any real extent. If you want to install stuff, it's going to take time. If you want a minimal system, I've already walked through that. |
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| 09:17.32 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: And you've got the option of doing a --download-only aptitude install later (downloads but doesn't install DEBs). |
| 09:18.02 | gypsymauro | karsten-nr: as I said, you choose "desktop environment" and then it starts to download, maybe it would be nice to cancel the installation and make another choice instead that first one |
| 09:18.06 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: That said: file a wishlist bug against debian-installer if you feel it's worth it to you. |
| 09:19.01 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: <alt><F2> will give you a shell (non-graphical installer). Can't say what the graphical installer's options are, but I'll bet <ctrl><alt><F2> will do it for you. |
| 09:19.18 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: You've got a minimal shell (dash, busybox, handful of utils). You can kill any process you want. |
| 09:20.36 | karsten-nr | gypsymauro: That said, I still don't think it's worth it. On a typical network connection, you can get a pretty good system up and running inside of 20 minutes. FAI with local repos in a DC, even faster. |
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| 09:21.49 | karsten-nr | Anyhow, it's sleepy o'clock. Good night. |
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| 09:59.42 | sonic_baker | Hi People, I installed debian as the 2nd OS on a board last night. As there wasn't much apace left on the on-board storage, I installed to the SD card instead so that I could have a dual boot for testing. However, after the reboot ( when finished installing) I can only get as far as the initial 'Press F2 for Setup, F12 for boot manager' screen. If I press F2 or F12 I just get the 'going to setup/boot manager' message and nothing more. This means I can |
| 09:59.42 | sonic_baker | even get to the stage where I can try a re-install as I can't get to the USB boot. Any suggestinos as to how to get around this? |
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| 10:09.46 | itchi | Hi, for a cpu Intel Dual-Core, which kernel suits it's best? ia64 or amd64? Kinda confussing :s Windows Hell 7 says it's a 64 bit system. |
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| 10:10.46 | itchi | The cpu is T4300 It's a laptop Compaq Presario CQ71 |
| 10:11.32 | babilen | itchi: You can use either amd64 or i386. The former is 64bit and the latter 32bit. IA64 is Itanium and you don't have such a machine |
| 10:12.04 | homecable | itchi how much ram do u have ? |
| 10:12.08 | babilen | !why amd64 |
| 10:12.08 | dpkg | The Debian architecture that runs on 64-bit processors from AMD and Intel is called "amd64" because the architecture was first developed by AMD. AMD64 is variously known as x86-64, x64, IA-32e, EM64T, EMT64 and Intel 64 (most of which are the Intel marketing people changing their mind). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64. |
| 10:12.14 | itchi | babilen: Ok, thanks for confirming, i will download the amd64 netinstall and kick that shity windows |
| 10:12.20 | itchi | It's a 4Gb system |
| 10:12.29 | homecable | use 32bit then |
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| 10:12.43 | itchi | with Nvidia. System runs kinda slow with Windows 7 i find |
| 10:12.44 | babilen | itchi: Have fun -- You might want to read the Debian Installation Guide while you install the system and clarify questions over here. |
| 10:13.12 | homecable | itchi just use ubuntu |
| 10:13.25 | itchi | well, it's just the cpu's that changed and confussing me. Install should be ok normally, i'm not affraid after all my installs in the past |
| 10:13.35 | babilen | homecable: It might be a good idea to at least elaborate on your reasoning |
| 10:13.42 | itchi | homecable: I'm using debian much longer as you i guess |
| 10:14.09 | homecable | if u ask what u need to install u dont know what ur doing |
| 10:14.33 | homecable | install 32 bit ubuntu it will help with drivers |
| 10:14.38 | itchi | nah, i'm asking confirmation of somethings i hesitate off |
| 10:15.34 | homecable | i use gentoo on my i7 desktop with 16 gigs of ram running 64bit |
| 10:15.50 | homecable | i use debian on servers |
| 10:16.03 | babilen | itchi: You have a couple of options. You can (i) install amd64 (userland+kernel 64bit) (ii) install i386 (userland+kernel 32bit) or (iii) install i386 with an amd64 kernel (userland 32bit, kernel 64bit) |
| 10:16.18 | itchi | with i386 these days i get many issues with "modern" computers. Some stupid guys decided to remove stuff... Now a good i386 needs to be compilled from stratch... Bah, the old good days... |
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| 10:16.39 | homecable | lmao |
| 10:16.46 | homecable | hes trolling |
| 10:17.15 | itchi | babilen: i think that i will go for a plaine amd64. At least this will jump me in that arch and let me know more about it. Otherwise i will always stuck at that i386 knowledges |
| 10:17.30 | itchi | nah, i'm realy not trolling at all! |
| 10:17.46 | homecable | 64 bit lacks flash |
| 10:17.50 | babilen | itchi: It is your decision and a justifiable one. |
| 10:18.03 | homecable | 32 has flash |
| 10:18.07 | babilen | homecable: That is not true, please stop spreading FUD |
| 10:18.09 | itchi | hmm yah, kinda sad without flash :s |
| 10:18.14 | pmitros | I have not been able to access several Google servers (including www.google.com, calendar, and several others) for the past 8 hours. I'm wondering if the issue is on my end, or if there's some outage somewhere. Anyone else seen similar issues? I know this is only vaguely Debian-related, but I am on Debian. |
| 10:18.44 | itchi | yah, on my other amd64 i thought flash was working ok, now i'm hesitating haha |
| 10:18.49 | babilen | itchi: amd64 has a perfectly working flashplugin |
| 10:18.59 | itchi | babilen: ok then :) |
| 10:19.23 | itchi | cool i gona install debian on this laptop haha :P |
| 10:19.28 | homecable | oh flash is now in 64bit |
| 10:19.29 | homecable | :P |
| 10:19.30 | dwq | pmitros: the problem is on your end |
| 10:19.42 | pmitros | Thanks. |
| 10:19.43 | homecable | just looked at website |
| 10:19.47 | babilen | judd: versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 10:19.47 | itchi | pff my own is broken after 5 years of loyal havy Debian usage |
| 10:19.48 | judd | Package flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- etch-backports/contrib: 1:1.4~bpo40+1; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.8.2~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8.2; squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2 |
| 10:20.08 | homecable | http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html |
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| 10:21.05 | pmitros | Oh. Got it. Stale DNS. I had www.google.com hardcoded from a DNS outage a few years back. |
| 10:21.06 | babilen | itchi: Just install the "flashplugin-nonfree" package from Debian. You need to enable contrib for that to work. |
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| 10:21.16 | itchi | Is it me or there isn't any direct link anymore to the "testing" netinstall cd? |
| 10:21.27 | dwq | I'm trying to use crontab and gconftool-2 to set the theme according to the time of the day. Since gconftool-2 uses dbus I need to set the right env in the script (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bug/285937), which I've done, but it's still not working! Here's my setup http://debian.pastebin.com/r2srs7X2 |
| 10:21.29 | babilen | itchi: But I guess that this is an issue #debian and you can work on later. |
| 10:21.40 | babilen | !install testing |
| 10:21.40 | dpkg | Daily built <netinst> images to install <testing> are available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . The chance of the testing installer being broken on any given day is quite high, ask me about <today>. Instead, do a minimal installation using the stable installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Also ask me about <testing>, <apt-listchanges>, <d-d-a>. |
| 10:21.43 | itchi | babilen: Normally this should ok, if i recal correctly i have setup that a few weeks ago |
| 10:21.45 | babilen | itchi: ^^^^^ |
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| 10:22.17 | itchi | babilen: Thanks mans ;) |
| 10:22.35 | sonic_baker | I installed debian as the 2nd OS on a board last night. As there wasn't much apace left on the on-board storage, I installed to the SD card instead so that I could have a dual boot for testing. However, after the reboot ( when finished installing) I can only get as far as the initial 'Press F2 for Setup, F12 for boot manager' screen. If I press F2 or F12 I just get the 'going to setup/boot manager' message and nothing more. This means I can't even get |
| 10:22.35 | sonic_baker | the stage where I can try a re-install as I can't get to the USB boot. Any suggestinos as to how to get around this? |
| 10:22.41 | babilen | itchi: You are welcome, have fun and enjoy the install. |
| 10:23.17 | itchi | The stable->testing is kinda long, i don't want to waste that much time as the last time i did. So jumping into the fun, wazaa Debian :P |
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| 10:23.41 | itchi | Sorry guys, i'm so tired of Windows 7! |
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| 10:24.12 | babilen | itchi: Note that the nightlies/weeklies will not always work, but it is worth a try. |
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| 10:24.51 | itchi | babilen: Cool, i'm hot for a try :) |
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| 10:25.13 | itchi | Bah, the biggest issue will be finding an empty cd yah!! |
| 10:25.58 | babilen | itchi: I would also suggest *not* to select the "Desktop" task, but to install Xorg and a DE/WM of your choice later on as this maked it easier to tweak the system to your needs. |
| 10:26.26 | itchi | babilen: I'm used to install the base and just start install fluxbox and my other stuff :) |
| 10:26.27 | babilen | itchi: You could also install from USB or with netboot (provided that you have a DHCP/TFTP server around) |
| 10:27.21 | babilen | itchi: Just saying -- We get a bunch of complains like "Why on earth is Debian so stupid to remove *all* of Gnome if I just want to remove a single package???" |
| 10:27.53 | itchi | babilen: Bah, i'm not affraid about that, i don't use gnome too haha :P |
| 10:28.53 | itchi | babilen: Once Debian up and running, i usually find my way, just some time i ask confirmation here and there, as in the *nix world some times things change fast |
| 10:29.16 | babilen | itchi: Sure :) |
| 10:29.26 | itchi | Ok, how should i burn that iso file? |
| 10:29.34 | itchi | naaaah, it's a joke guys!!! :P |
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| 10:29.57 | babilen | itchi: If you switch between different *NIX flavours you might appreciate http://bhami.com/rosetta.html |
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| 10:30.56 | itchi | Well, my systems are old, and it's now already some time i didn't had the need to reinstall from scratch. It's just that hardware some time dies |
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| 10:35.47 | itchi | Ok, say goodbye to the hell... |
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| 10:39.57 | der | hi, can someone give me a link for a netinstall cd? i don`t know which is the right one. thanks |
| 10:40.47 | der | i forgot.. i386 |
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| 10:42.04 | niklaswe | der: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/Debian/debian-cd/5.0.6/i386/iso-cd/debian-506-i386-netinst.iso for i386 |
| 10:42.20 | der | thanks :-) |
| 10:42.28 | niklaswe | der: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/Debian/debian-cd/5.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-506-amd64-netinst.iso 64bits |
| 10:42.43 | err404 | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.6/i386/iso-cd/debian-506-i386-businesscard.iso <-- 40Mo |
| 10:43.09 | fireba11 | err404: he asked for netinstall though |
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| 10:43.46 | der | can i extract the businesscard version to a thumbdrive and boot as cd? my mobo can handle this |
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| 10:44.44 | fireba11 | yes |
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| 10:44.55 | fireba11 | just extracting won't do though |
| 10:45.09 | OzoNe | a las buenas |
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| 10:46.42 | der | won`t? can you tell me what to do? |
| 10:46.44 | akis | hi. i downloaded debian 5.0 live cd. what is the command to type in prompt to get in graphical enviro? |
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| 10:49.12 | kokand | akis: startx ? |
| 10:50.12 | kokand | der: better try netinstall iso |
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| 10:50.44 | der | kokand: ok thanks |
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| 10:51.33 | syn4pse | hello anybody here that is into proxmox ? |
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| 10:52.42 | Boon | what is the best way to update glibc 2.3 to 2.4 on etch without upgrade to lenny |
| 10:52.43 | Boon | ? |
| 10:52.55 | akis | ok thanks. i cannot remember it. |
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| 10:55.43 | senorpedro | hi |
| 10:56.15 | senorpedro | how can i use debian lenny with the newest gnome (2.32) ? |
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| 10:58.47 | karika200 | can somebody help me with backlight algorithm for image processing? |
| 10:59.25 | SlayerXP | karika200: welcome to #debian, please ask your debian-specific question after the tone. *BEEEEEEP* |
| 10:59.48 | Ejdesgaard | I got a realy simple question... I have installed 6 NIC's post install and want to activate them during boot, how do i do that? |
| 11:00.06 | Ejdesgaard | running lenny |
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| 11:01.13 | Boon | any 1 know? |
| 11:01.46 | Boon | $ /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found |
| 11:01.55 | Boon | current glibc is 2.3 |
| 11:02.02 | Boon | how to upgrade it? |
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| 11:02.46 | kokand | Boon: It seems no way :) |
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| 11:03.40 | Boon | kokand : upgrade to lenny? |
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| 11:04.15 | kokand | No way to run newest gnome without Squeeze |
| 11:04.32 | syn4pse | Ejdesgaard nano /etc/networking/interfaces |
| 11:04.33 | epsilon | !jre |
| 11:04.34 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged for Debian, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 11:05.10 | WilliamHerry | i can't login to my vsftpd server , 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection |
| 11:05.19 | WilliamHerry | some one help me |
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| 11:05.26 | syn4pse | sorry typo: nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:05.58 | Boon | kokand : what should i do? |
| 11:05.59 | kokand | WilliamHerry: edit /etc/vsftpd.conf and check iptables |
| 11:05.59 | der | can someone tell me how to backup my whole freebsd drive with tar to a file on another drive? |
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| 11:06.18 | epsilon | WilliamHerry: if you had installed proftpd, yes |
| 11:06.32 | Ejdesgaard | syn4pse, http://dpaste.org/qUK9/ a snippet of the interfaces file |
| 11:06.47 | WilliamHerry | i install wu-ftpd befure and i have remove it |
| 11:07.36 | kokand | Boon: change repository in /etc/apt/sources/list to "squeeze" and run "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 11:07.45 | dutchfish | Hi, i want to know if there is any info on implementing XMPP/jingle on debian lenny or squeeze. Can someone hint me on that if that is possible already? |
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| 11:09.41 | Ejdesgaard | syn4pse, atm. it's only eth0 that gets online at boot |
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| 11:10.42 | razieliyo | hi! |
| 11:10.46 | razieliyo | can you help me? |
| 11:10.54 | razieliyo | I can't see the time left for my battery to go down |
| 11:11.00 | razieliyo | I can see just a percent of it |
| 11:11.02 | razieliyo | but not the time |
| 11:11.18 | razieliyo | I'm using gnome |
| 11:11.40 | razieliyo | and at preferences it doesn't says anything about that |
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| 11:11.52 | WilliamHerry | how can i restart inet |
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| 11:12.51 | eshat | Hi all, how can I delete all mails in a huge .inbox that ado have a Spam flag in their header (console tool would be great)... |
| 11:12.53 | WilliamHerry | i don't want reboot |
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| 11:13.18 | centos-user-az | Where stored the users password on debian? |
| 11:13.35 | eshat | centos-user-az: /etc/shadow |
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| 11:14.11 | centos-user-az | May I change a password manually? |
| 11:14.37 | dutchfish | razieliyo: i have no idee for gnome but in kde i did this: http://vizzzion.org/blog/2009/11/battery-improvements-in-kde-plasma-4-4/ |
| 11:15.32 | kokand | WilliamHerry: invoke-rc.d networking restart |
| 11:15.34 | senorpedro | when doing "aptitude update" i get the error (translatet from german): problem with mergelist. paketlist could not be read.could not create paketcache.... how can i resolve this? |
| 11:15.39 | centos-user-az | eshat: May I change a password manually? |
| 11:16.03 | razieliyo | dutchfish, I think it's just problem about the applet, that it isn't implemented yet |
| 11:16.14 | WilliamHerry | thanks |
| 11:16.14 | blackshirt | @senorpedro: you may increase APT cache limit on yout apt.conf |
| 11:16.22 | razieliyo | but it seems kde does |
| 11:16.23 | dutchfish | razieliyo: possible, yes |
| 11:17.07 | razieliyo | I'll search a little more |
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| 11:17.28 | kokand | centos-user-az: password are encrypted, and you cannot chage them manually |
| 11:17.36 | dutchfish | razieliyo: i think for lenny is an applet or something for that in gnome (not sure) |
| 11:17.52 | senorpedro | blackshirt, i have a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d directory, but none of the files in it contains a limit entry. do i have to create apt.conf manually? |
| 11:18.00 | razieliyo | the common applet at least doesn't says nothing about remaining time |
| 11:18.13 | razieliyo | maybe another more powerful applet |
| 11:18.17 | blackshirt | yes.. |
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| 11:18.34 | razieliyo | dutchfish, I saw this http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/20238/ |
| 11:18.40 | senorpedro | can a stub be autocreated by aptitude, apt-get ? |
| 11:18.47 | razieliyo | it looks like an idea to make remaining time seeable |
| 11:18.55 | dutchfish | razieliyo: probably, i have seen something on other users system but don't know if that was with etch or lenny. |
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| 11:18.59 | centos-user-az | kokand: by which algorithm? |
| 11:19.17 | razieliyo | maybe etch |
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| 11:20.02 | kokand | I don't know, better ask maintainers :) |
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| 11:20.44 | kokand | centos-user-az: I don't know, better ask maintainers :) |
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| 11:20.55 | razieliyo | dutchfish, for what I can see, everybody is complaining about this issue |
| 11:21.09 | razieliyo | so, my questions has been answered, I just cant |
| 11:21.22 | centos-user-az | kokand: allright |
| 11:21.36 | dutchfish | razieliyo: i am sorry to hear that |
| 11:21.51 | dutchfish | razieliyo: its an important thing to know |
| 11:22.00 | razieliyo | dutchfish, I think I've found a solution |
| 11:22.01 | razieliyo | ibam |
| 11:22.07 | dutchfish | ah ok\ |
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| 11:22.09 | magesing | Hi everyone, I have a bit of a messy partition setup, my /boot is at hd(0,6) and / is at /dev/sda3 . My problem is, whenever I update to a newer kernel with aptitude it sets up /boot/grub/menu.lst to look at hd(0,0) and /dev/sda1 . Of course I never remember this until I restart the system and grub can't find the kernel! How can I set up my system so that when I run a kernel update I will automatically have a working bootloader configuration? Thanks. |
| 11:22.11 | razieliyo | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381213 |
| 11:22.26 | blackshirt | you can place APT::Cache-Limit "25165824"; or maybe increase the number and place in /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 11:22.51 | dutchfish | razieliyo: yes, http://packages.debian.org/lenny/ibam |
| 11:23.00 | blackshirt | or /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf |
| 11:23.30 | razieliyo | dutchfish, nice, thanks |
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| 11:24.31 | blackshirt | @magesing: use the uuid for the root partition |
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| 11:28.21 | kokand | !lilo |
| 11:28.21 | dpkg | LILO (LInux LOader) is an operating system boot loader for x86 systems. Documentation packaged in lilo-doc. http://wiki.debian.org/LILO http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO.html http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/ . See also <grub>, <grub2>. |
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| 11:32.58 | amgarching | hi, I just "tasksel"ected Desktop environment in addition to base install. How do I make sure that the machine still boots into text mode? I dont want graphics on console. |
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| 11:33.34 | abrotman | !tell amgarching about nodm |
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| 11:38.09 | amgarching | thanks, I'll try this: echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, is it supposed to persist across updates? |
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| 11:38.47 | abrotman | well, if it doesn't, it's not like it's difficult to redo |
| 11:38.55 | abrotman | but i believe it does persist |
| 11:39.08 | itchi | Okay, now i'm wondering if with this install i have screw up the Windows 7 install :S |
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| 11:39.32 | itchi | I don't have an item in Grub to boot to Windows 7 :s Cool my wife will be happy |
| 11:39.42 | abrotman | itchi: install os-prober |
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| 11:40.05 | itchi | abrotman: hmm, it give some rasuring informations :) |
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| 11:40.31 | itchi | abrotman: I took to the "new" grub, i'm so affraid by these changes :s |
| 11:40.56 | itchi | the new grub config looks so strange |
| 11:40.56 | nerdshark | hey, i'm running debian sid and am wanting to use virtualbox fuel, but there isn't a version of it built for sid. would it be pretty safe to use the squeeze version isntead? |
| 11:41.30 | bolt-work | nerdshark: safer than using sid anyway |
| 11:41.37 | nerdshark | puel* |
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| 11:41.57 | nerdshark | bolt-work: i meant using the squeeze version of virtualboz puel in sid |
| 11:42.01 | itchi | abrotman: Strange that there isn't a manpage for os-prober :s |
| 11:42.02 | nerdshark | virtualbox* |
| 11:42.09 | nerdshark | i can't type this morning |
| 11:42.15 | bolt-work | nerdshark: and doing that is safer than using sid anyway |
| 11:42.21 | nerdshark | anyway, sid's been pretty stable for me, and i've been running it for about two months |
| 11:42.25 | nerdshark | so i'm not looking to switch |
| 11:42.39 | bolt-work | have fun with it |
| 11:42.42 | nerdshark | i am |
| 11:42.58 | blackshirt | yes, i'm use sid too.. |
| 11:43.01 | itchi | They bin should have a man page! It's the rule! |
| 11:43.07 | itchi | the* |
| 11:43.29 | itchi | bah, should report a bug on os-prober :s |
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| 11:44.07 | binhoz | i need some help.;. |
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| 11:44.25 | bolt-work | binhoz: just ask (the channel, not me) |
| 11:44.36 | itchi | abrotman: I know you are a good one, could you please report a bug about missing manpage in os-prober ? My system isn't up yet, still reinstalling :s |
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| 11:44.52 | bolt-work | ... |
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| 11:45.28 | itchi | Ok, and with that all, how do i fix my problem? :D |
| 11:46.02 | binhoz | i have a debian server, and i created a users and groups.. |
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| 11:47.58 | abrotman | itchi: i'm sure there already is one |
| 11:48.33 | abrotman | itchi: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=542899 |
| 11:48.40 | itchi | abrotman: Possible, i'm still on a base install right now... |
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| 11:49.24 | blackshirt | may be |
| 11:49.39 | NativeAngels | how do i configure wlan0 wpa-tkip on debian lenny ? |
| 11:49.42 | itchi | abrotman: I'm sorry, yeah, right, there's already one :s |
| 11:50.09 | itchi | Cool, just got screen and iceweasel installed, wazaa, next step |
| 11:50.28 | bolt-work | !tell NativeAngels about wpa |
| 11:50.54 | itchi | abrotman: Do you know how i can fix my missing entry about Windows 7 in grub? |
| 11:50.56 | abrotman | binhoz: is there more to the question ? |
| 11:51.02 | abrotman | itchi: are you on lenny or squeeze? |
| 11:51.11 | itchi | abrotman: squeeze |
| 11:51.13 | binhoz | but if one user saves a work .doc .txt, no ones can work in same work. |
| 11:51.25 | abrotman | itchi: using grub2/os-prober, i don't have any problems booting win7 |
| 11:51.26 | itchi | i just hope i didn't missed during the partitioning haha :P |
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| 11:51.47 | bolt-work | binhoz: are the permissions set correctly? how are these users accessing the same files? |
| 11:51.49 | stew | binhoz: read http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
| 11:52.01 | bolt-work | binhoz: samba? |
| 11:52.01 | itchi | abrotman: i ran that, it showed me some stuff on the console and that's it :s i rebooted after it and still no entry |
| 11:52.12 | abrotman | itchi: what did the console show? |
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| 11:53.01 | bolt-work | itchi: "pastebinit" is nice, if you don't have a graphical interface yet. just pipe stuff to it |
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| 11:53.13 | itchi | abrotman: This: http://pastebin.ca/1966831 |
| 11:53.30 | itchi | just got iceweasel :) |
| 11:53.32 | abrotman | do you really have three OSes? |
| 11:53.46 | itchi | and that in my Fluxbox, yah! :P |
| 11:54.03 | itchi | abrotman: no, not that i know off haha :P Just 7 |
| 11:54.05 | bolt-work | operating systemses? |
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| 11:54.37 | abrotman | bolt-work: it ends in an S |
| 11:54.40 | eshat | where is the right place to ask about filtering a huge .inbox ? |
| 11:54.48 | abrotman | itchi: and when you boot, it shows nothing? |
| 11:54.49 | itchi | but i guess there's some blackmagic with some windows-backup-system-recovery-crap |
| 11:54.58 | abrotman | eshat: you probably start by reading procmail docs |
| 11:55.07 | itchi | abrotman: It only show two Debian entries |
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| 11:56.11 | abrotman | itchi: are you using grub or grub2? |
| 11:56.48 | itchi | abrotman: grub-pc, grub-common it seems |
| 11:57.13 | itchi | abrotman: hmm, but i have the config of grub2 if i look into /boot/grub/ :-S |
| 11:57.30 | abrotman | right, grub-pc is grub2 |
| 11:57.38 | itchi | ah ok then |
| 11:57.51 | itchi | kinda confussing right now lol |
| 11:58.00 | eshat | abrotman: oh really ? well maybe I can find a tool which does what I want |
| 11:58.07 | itchi | I can't find my way in the grub2 cofnig |
| 11:58.11 | abrotman | i really don't have any issues .. i just installed grub2 and os-prober, and it magically appeared |
| 11:58.19 | abrotman | itchi: look in /etc/grub2/ IIRC |
| 11:58.55 | itchi | abrotman: hmm, doesn't have that tree, should i install the grub2 package? |
| 11:59.17 | abrotman | the grub2 package is a metapackage ... |
| 11:59.19 | itchi | Only /etc/grub.d. here |
| 11:59.28 | abrotman | oh, sorry, that's right |
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| 12:00.53 | jantje_ | Hi guys, I'm using kernel ip auto configuration to boot up my server with nfsroot |
| 12:01.12 | jantje_ | I have 4 network interfaces and i'd like to use bonding (rr-balance) |
| 12:01.23 | jantje_ | but .. I'm not using any modules |
| 12:01.43 | jantje_ | so where/how can I pass those module options to the kernel? |
| 12:02.01 | abrotman | did you compile your own kernel ? |
| 12:02.05 | jantje_ | yes |
| 12:02.35 | jantje_ | (default debian kernels dont have nfsroot/auto kernel ip config) |
| 12:02.48 | jantje_ | I included the bonding driver ofcourse |
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| 12:05.06 | itchi | abrotman: I'm not sure if it was a good idea to resize the ntfs partition from the debian installer. Could it be that it broke my system? |
| 12:05.15 | jantje_ | Can I specifiy module options on to the kernel 'append' line ? |
| 12:05.28 | blackshirt | @jantje: yes |
| 12:05.28 | abrotman | no idea .. i did mine with gparted .. twice (messed it up badly the first time) |
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| 12:07.38 | itchi | abrotman: Do you know a way to verify if there's still data on these ntfs partitions? Maybe should i take back the windows recovery DVD and start over |
| 12:08.08 | abrotman | use a liveCD perhaps ? |
| 12:08.19 | aidan | I'm following this, but I get http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/ .. no module named smtp. |
| 12:08.24 | aidan | 010-10-19 07:17:31 Exim configuration error in line 798 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp: authenticator gmail_smtp: cannot find authenticator driver "smtp" |
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| 12:11.41 | itchi | abrotman: At least i have two proplems, but at this stage it should at least display three extra os'es in grub anyway |
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| 12:14.13 | blackshirt | :-D |
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| 12:17.06 | revlo | hi is a patch to the lateltly discovered glibc vulnerability in sight? http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Oct/257 |
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| 12:21.23 | binhoz | away: [Inativo por mais de 30 minutos] [desde: 10:21, page: on] |
| 12:22.56 | bolt-work | binhoz-Away: please don't announce your away status publicly in here |
| 12:23.41 | themill | revlo: no idea, but you can check for yourself at http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2010-3847 |
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| 12:26.22 | eshat | abrotman: if you are interessted in the easy solution of my .inbox Problem: mutt has a command to mark all messages that mach a pattern.... |
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| 12:26.36 | hvad | helo |
| 12:26.42 | bolt-work | ehlo |
| 12:26.44 | blackshirt | hello hvad |
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| 12:27.10 | solidrock | guys can you give me the link where i can download ALL in once CD debian version |
| 12:27.14 | blackshirt | helo solidrock |
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| 12:27.48 | themill | solidrock: all that does is waste donated bandwidth. /msg dpkg netinst |
| 12:27.50 | bolt-work | solidrock: why do you want that? |
| 12:27.51 | abrotman | eshat: and what |
| 12:27.52 | abrotman | ? |
| 12:27.57 | abrotman | solidrock: please use the netinst |
| 12:28.29 | eshat | abrotman: and deleted them |
| 12:28.36 | blackshirt | maybe debian dvd installer |
| 12:28.44 | bolt-work | but why? |
| 12:28.49 | abrotman | eshat: uhm okay |
| 12:28.58 | solidrock | sorry..i'm just newbie on this IRC |
| 12:29.20 | solidrock | yes DVD installer |
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| 12:29.47 | bolt-work | solidrock: do you have a specific reason for wanting the entire dvd, with hundreds of packages you are likely to never use? |
| 12:29.50 | solidrock | can you elaborate me "base install " |
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| 12:30.19 | bolt-work | solidrock: base install means selecting absolutely nothing when the installer asks you what you want to install |
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| 12:30.41 | bolt-work | solidrock: it is also something you definitely don't need the dvd to do :) |
| 12:30.43 | solidrock | i see |
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| 12:31.14 | solidrock | so i don't need the whole DVD debian |
| 12:31.24 | bolt-work | solidrock: just the netinstall |
| 12:31.35 | solidrock | what do you mean by netinstall |
| 12:31.43 | blackshirt | it is bare bone debian system |
| 12:32.15 | solidrock | ok..i'm not much familiar with debian so hoping that you can bare with me on this matter :) |
| 12:32.17 | bolt-work | solar_sea: i mean the cd/usb/pxe bootable installer that relies on downloading the rest of what you want (aside from the base system) from the internet. it's called "netinstall" for that reason |
| 12:32.43 | solar_sea | bolt-work, thanks ;) |
| 12:32.48 | bolt-work | gah |
| 12:32.57 | bolt-work | solidrock: ^ |
| 12:33.07 | solidrock | if i have that netinstall utility can i download samba, apache,etc to it? |
| 12:33.14 | bolt-work | solidrock: yes |
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| 12:33.54 | solidrock | if i have working internet ? |
| 12:33.56 | solidrock | right? |
| 12:34.00 | bolt-work | right. |
| 12:34.06 | abrotman | solidrock: really .. use the netinst |
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| 12:34.22 | bolt-work | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 12:34.25 | solidrock | i try that now |
| 12:34.31 | bolt-work | good man |
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| 12:36.07 | solidrock | i have debian cd |
| 12:36.32 | blackshirt | wow.. |
| 12:36.38 | bolt-work | solidrock: then use that |
| 12:36.38 | solidrock | how do i install package on this one |
| 12:37.09 | bolt-work | solidrock: aptitude install <packagename> |
| 12:37.13 | bolt-work | (fill in packagename) |
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| 12:37.37 | Kaizen | does debian do automatic updates out of the box, like security updates etc? |
| 12:37.53 | bolt-work | Kaizen: not by default, no |
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| 12:38.09 | solidrock | aptitude is the front end can i use apt-get ? |
| 12:38.17 | blackshirt | yes, |
| 12:38.18 | solidrock | what do you prefer aptitude or the apt-get |
| 12:38.23 | bolt-work | solidrock: go right ahead |
| 12:38.28 | blackshirt | exactly aptitude |
| 12:38.44 | solidrock | so aptitude in installing package |
| 12:38.58 | solidrock | why ? is there a difference between those package manager? |
| 12:39.03 | bolt-work | solidrock: depends on the situation. it is recommended to use aptitude, but nobody is forcing you. you also don't get "the front end" if you issue a specific install command to aptitude. only if you start it without any parameters |
| 12:39.07 | Kaizen | bolt-work ok thanks, just wondering if there's a way to do updates automatically but only if they're due to security improvements |
| 12:39.21 | blackshirt | not much differences |
| 12:39.22 | bolt-work | solidrock: aptitude is, among other things, slightly better at resolving dependency issues |
| 12:39.50 | Kaizen | bolt-work i'm probably asking the impossible, given there are a lot of packages :) |
| 12:39.55 | bolt-work | it also provides a more visual representation of what'll happen when doing large upgrades |
| 12:40.01 | solidrock | i'm more on using apt-get |
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| 12:40.04 | abrotman | !tell Kaizen about cron-apt |
| 12:40.15 | abrotman | !tell Kaizen about apticron |
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| 12:40.38 | solidrock | if that would be an issue especially when it comes to dependencies maybe i should switch on using aptitude |
| 12:40.47 | bolt-work | solidrock: up to you |
| 12:40.55 | solidrock | hmm |
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| 12:42.31 | solidrock | is this section, can i also raise some other problem like squid,dhcp,etc? |
| 12:42.46 | solidrock | or is this purely debian OS only ? |
| 12:42.56 | abrotman | you can try .. assuming they are Debian packages |
| 12:43.01 | bolt-work | solidrock: anything that's debian related and can't be solved with a simple google search is fine here |
| 12:43.20 | CissWit | solidrock: furthermore, aptitude marks packets to know which ones where installed manually, and which ones where installed automatically. When remooving a package, it remooves dependencies aswell |
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| 12:44.35 | Kaizen | thanks abrotman, that was helpful |
| 12:45.09 | akis | hi. i downloaded debian 5.0 live cd. how can i get in graphical enviro. startsx doesn't work. any advise? |
| 12:45.52 | blackshirt | may be the problem is your graphic card |
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| 12:46.58 | bolt-work | akis: if you tell us how "startx" fails, we'd be a lot more able to offer a solution for you |
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| 12:48.08 | akis | i try in 2 different pc's. one desktop, one laptop. |
| 12:48.23 | bolt-work | is there even an official live cd? |
| 12:48.27 | bolt-work | !tell akis about doesn't work |
| 12:48.30 | bolt-work | !tell akis about error message |
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| 12:49.21 | akis | the error message is that there is no command as "startx" |
| 12:49.26 | bolt-work | seems the livecd is supported in #debian-live on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:49.54 | akis | yep. the .iso was downloaded from the official site. |
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| 12:51.39 | abrotman | !livecd |
| 12:51.39 | dpkg | An operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue CD or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian has its own Live CD (http://live.debian.net/), ask me about <debian live>. http://www.livecdlist.com/ |
| 12:52.07 | bolt-work | the debian live factoid is what refers to #debian-live on irc.oftc.net |
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| 12:53.14 | akis | the cd took automatically the name "DEbina lenny 201". does this help? |
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| 12:53.25 | akis | the cd took automatically the name "Debian lenny 201". does this help? |
| 12:53.37 | bolt-work | akis: not really. have you tried asking the #debian-live channel i've been referring you to? |
| 12:53.57 | akis | not yet, i'll try it. |
| 12:54.10 | revlo | themill: thx |
| 12:54.11 | rhineshell | hello out there, was the name of that package, with witch I can compare the version of different distributions? |
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| 12:58.54 | Ward| | i'm trying to make espeak say something when my system boots, so i put 'echo "bla" | espeak' in my rc.local |
| 12:59.00 | Ward| | however this does not work untill i login |
| 12:59.07 | Ward| | (over ssh since its a headless system) |
| 12:59.17 | Ward| | can i solve this somehow? |
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| 13:04.50 | remur_030 | Good day, i want to set up an ipv6 ip on my interface in the network/interfaces file |
| 13:05.14 | remur_030 | so I do ' up ip -6 addr add 2001:aaa:bbb::2/64 dev eth0' |
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| 13:06.33 | remur_030 | still on system start the ipv6 addr isn't added |
| 13:06.41 | remur_030 | if I call this manually later on it is though! |
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| 13:07.09 | metalfoo | Try /bin/ip (just a guesS) |
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| 13:07.40 | jantje_ | Can I shut down an interface using /etc/network/interfaces ? I have an interface configured by the kernel (kernel ip auto configuration) And I like to shut it down when other interfaces are brought up by init |
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| 13:09.02 | metalfoo | ifup/ifdown |
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| 13:09.40 | NoobAss | hello everyone |
| 13:09.54 | remur_030 | NoobAss: you sure this is an appropriate name? |
| 13:10.08 | jantje_ | metalfoo: it's not an interfaces(5) parameter? |
| 13:10.18 | NoobAss | lol |
| 13:10.19 | jantje_ | I think i'll have to use pre-up paramater |
| 13:10.21 | metalfoo | jantje_: Maybe I got you wrong? |
| 13:10.31 | NoobAss | if i knew the answer to my question i would change that ass |
| 13:10.31 | metalfoo | You want to do it automatically? |
| 13:10.34 | NoobAss | name i mean |
| 13:10.37 | jantje_ | yes |
| 13:10.49 | jantje_ | using /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 13:10.58 | remur_030 | I also got here with a question and didn't nick myself like that ;-) |
| 13:11.06 | NoobAss | anyone can help solve a problem of not having php file in /usr/bin/ ? |
| 13:11.26 | metalfoo | Ah, then yes. Though there are methods (heuristics) you can use in /etc/network/interfaces to autoconfigure your network depending on properties/scripts you can make on your own |
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| 13:11.54 | trifler | NoobAss: Why would you havr .php-file in /usr/bin ? |
| 13:12.17 | trifler | NoobAss: Why would you have a .php-file in /usr/bin ? |
| 13:12.27 | abrotman | NoobAss: install the php5-cli package |
| 13:12.39 | NoobAss | i need to run a cron that seaches that file there |
| 13:12.50 | abrotman | NoobAss: install the php5-cli package |
| 13:12.51 | remur_030 | trifler: i think he is talking about the php interpreter binary |
| 13:13.16 | metalfoo | jantje_: see the mapping parameter for example. That might help you in a more clean way |
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| 13:14.06 | remur_030 | metalfoo: that also didn't work, still good idea |
| 13:15.01 | metalfoo | remur_030: Did you configure a valid entry for the interface with the up? I mean "iface foo static\nup <...>" won't work |
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| 13:16.07 | NoobAss | how do i install php5-cli |
| 13:16.09 | NoobAss | ? |
| 13:16.37 | remur_030 | metalfoo: i am sorry I don't understand, I try to add the ipv6 address to the same interface that i just set up |
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| 13:17.18 | metalfoo | remur_030: Yes, got that. I was asking whether you configured the usual IPv4 lines for your stanza. ifup won't work on a incomplete stanza configuratio |
| 13:17.19 | metalfoo | +n |
| 13:17.26 | remur_030 | I have configured a static interface yes |
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| 13:17.50 | abrotman | NoobAss: how do you install any other package? |
| 13:17.54 | remur_030 | I think so, the interface gets brought up besides that, I'll go paste it somewhere |
| 13:18.16 | NoobAss | i didn't just got my server installed by the host |
| 13:18.40 | abrotman | NoobAss: which version of Debian is this? |
| 13:18.40 | remur_030 | metalfoo: http://pastie.org/1232583 |
| 13:19.04 | remur_030 | NoobAss: you sure you know how to set up a secure php system after that? |
| 13:19.12 | abrotman | remur_030: it's for a system script |
| 13:20.02 | metalfoo | remur_030: Without the up does ifup work smoothly? |
| 13:20.13 | NoobAss | Debian 50 lenny 64 LAMP |
| 13:20.24 | remur_030 | abrotman: i see, well i won't judge peoples ability to run a secure system connecgt to the web |
| 13:20.33 | abrotman | NoobAss: aptitude install php5-cli |
| 13:20.35 | metalfoo | You should though. |
| 13:20.42 | abrotman | remur_030: i was just commenting it was a system script .. that's all |
| 13:20.48 | metalfoo | They are causing a lot of problems, but anyway ... |
| 13:21.33 | NoobAss | oh thanks |
| 13:21.43 | NoobAss | i think i did that just now :) |
| 13:21.46 | remur_030 | metalfoo: gotta get down to the system for a serial connection, can't kill it with ssh only |
| 13:21.52 | NoobAss | i'll see if it works |
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| 13:22.30 | metalfoo | remur_030: You can test on eth1, no matter if there is a cable attached or not, if you have eth1 of course. |
| 13:22.58 | metalfoo | (but be careful on the IPv4 you assign) |
| 13:23.34 | remur_030 | metalfoo: nope I don't it's a small embedded system |
| 13:23.37 | remur_030 | just single port |
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| 13:24.14 | Ward| | i9 cannot play any sounds in rc.local |
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| 13:24.19 | Ward| | not with mplayer, not with espeak |
| 13:24.21 | metalfoo | You said, your command works in the local shel? |
| 13:24.23 | metalfoo | shell |
| 13:24.26 | Ward| | what can i do to solve this? |
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| 13:25.18 | abrotman | what is "i9" ? |
| 13:25.25 | abrotman | oh .. i cannot .. nevermind |
| 13:25.27 | Ward| | remur_030, if it happens to have a USB port (thats not a host port!) you can use usbnet |
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| 13:25.36 | Ward| | remur_030, i use it all the time with my pda |
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| 13:25.54 | illio | Does this bug report mean SNI is natively supported in Debian Lenny?: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=461917 |
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| 13:26.37 | remur_030 | I don't mind th few steps to the system =) the only usb port is used by the harddrive |
| 13:26.56 | remur_030 | the usb hub i had kept on producing problems so I just stopped using it |
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| 13:27.25 | abrotman | illio: no, squeeze has it, lenny does not |
| 13:27.40 | abrotman | illio: look at the version the patch was applied to, 2.2.12 or so |
| 13:27.43 | binhoz | voltou: [Inativo por mais de 30 minutos] [duração: 1hr 6mins 20secs, page: on] |
| 13:27.47 | Ward| | i9 cannot play any sounds in rc.local, i'm using a old etch instalation, what can be the problem? |
| 13:27.49 | abrotman | judd: versions apache2.2-common |
| 13:27.51 | judd | Package apache2.2-common on i386 -- etch: 2.2.3-4+etch11; etch-security: 2.2.3-4+etch11; lenny-security: 2.2.9-10+lenny7; lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny8; sid: 2.2.16-3; squeeze: 2.2.16-3 |
| 13:27.57 | abrotman | binhoz: turn that off |
| 13:28.10 | remur_030 | metalfoo: it fails because the file already exists =/ |
| 13:28.32 | remur_030 | "SIOCADDRT: File exists" " |
| 13:28.39 | remur_030 | of course i did ifdown eth0 first |
| 13:28.59 | remur_030 | it doesn't take down the interface though |
| 13:29.22 | illio | abrotman, oh okay.. how long does it usually take for features from squeeze to filter down into lenny (i.e from testing to stable I'm assuming) |
| 13:29.31 | abrotman | illio: they won't .. that's not how Debian works |
| 13:29.36 | remur_030 | when I tear it down manually (ifconfig down) it works, also on ifup eth0 afterwards it adds the ip |
| 13:29.41 | remur_030 | the ipv6 ip that is |
| 13:29.50 | abrotman | illio: when squeeze is released as stable, that's when stable will have it .. they're thinking a few months or so til squeeze is released |
| 13:30.03 | remur_030 | hmm maybe shorewall does some tinkering of it's own here |
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| 13:30.22 | illio | abrotman, okay.. it was the last thing there I meant.. as in, when will squeeze become stable .. but cool.. a few months |
| 13:30.26 | metalfoo | remur_030: Does "ip addr list" still show your IPv6? |
| 13:30.39 | remur_030 | yep |
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| 13:30.51 | metalfoo | Then you have to take it down before. |
| 13:30.51 | abrotman | illio: there was recently an update to one of the mailing lists suggesting xmas time .. but that is not set in stone and could change drastically |
| 13:31.00 | metalfoo | As for interfaces: pre-down |
| 13:31.30 | remur_030 | metalfoo: ah well that I did |
| 13:31.31 | illio | abrotman, okay far enough.. just looking for a ballpark estimate anyway :-) .. I.e. whether we were talking months or years.. |
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| 13:31.41 | illio | abrotman, *fair enough .. |
| 13:31.48 | illio | abrotman, thanks for the help :-) |
| 13:31.48 | remur_030 | isn't down the same as pre-down? |
| 13:31.53 | abrotman | illio: you could backport it yourself . but then there is the security issue with that .. up to you |
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| 13:32.01 | metalfoo | No down is the same as post-down |
| 13:32.09 | metalfoo | And up is post-up |
| 13:32.16 | illio | abrotman, it isn't critical at this point, so it can probably safely wait a few months |
| 13:32.32 | remur_030 | metalfoo: in the manpage down is right before pre-down with no line of text |
| 13:32.37 | remur_030 | so I assumed they belong together |
| 13:32.46 | abrotman | illio: gotcha, okay .. good luck |
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| 13:32.48 | metalfoo | They do ;) |
| 13:33.10 | illio | abrotman, thanks :-) |
| 13:33.38 | metalfoo | Ah, now I got you |
| 13:33.42 | metalfoo | Yes, my mistake |
| 13:33.46 | metalfoo | down is pre-down |
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| 13:34.24 | remur_030 | no problem, had to recheck that as well |
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| 13:36.15 | Zenac | Hello i'm having this odd problem. Every program is segmentation faulting on me |
| 13:36.16 | remur_030 | metalfoo: right after restart issuing ifdown eth0 tells me it is not configured |
| 13:36.21 | NoobAss | anyone knows how to enable curl php extension |
| 13:36.23 | NoobAss | ? |
| 13:36.26 | Ward| | i cannot play any sounds in rc.local, i'm using a old etch installation, what can be the problem? |
| 13:36.27 | Zenac | every single command, from nano to reboot to cat |
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| 13:36.41 | remur_030 | metalfoo: but the interface itself is up and running |
| 13:36.44 | Zenac | even gui programs segfault |
| 13:36.53 | aguitel_ | i cannot read yahoo email with iceweasel ,it say i need to upgrade to firefox 3.6 ,anyone know this ? |
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| 13:36.57 | remur_030 | Zenac: sounds like your glibc took a hit |
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| 13:37.11 | remur_030 | aguitel_: you some faker for the browser id |
| 13:37.21 | Zenac | remur_030, i dont know what happened |
| 13:37.34 | Zenac | my desktop overheated so i unplugged it while it was still running; if that did something |
| 13:37.38 | remur_030 | Zenac: might be a corruption on the harddrive or in the memory |
| 13:37.40 | metalfoo | remur_030: If you don't place the up/down commands, everything is fine, even when you do the command line afterwards manually? |
| 13:37.42 | aguitel_ | remur_030, what ? |
| 13:37.46 | abrotman | NoobAss: apt-cache search php curl |
| 13:37.49 | abrotman | !tell NoobAss about grounding |
| 13:37.55 | Zenac | remur_030, what should i do |
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| 13:38.21 | remur_030 | aguitel_: install a user agent plugin for iceweasel, it will tell everyone you are using firefox |
| 13:38.28 | remur_030 | or change the useragent in about:config |
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| 13:38.57 | remur_030 | Zenac: if your filesystem got corrupted badly you could make use of your last backup |
| 13:38.57 | Zenac | remur_030, |
| 13:39.05 | Zenac | i also get permission denied |
| 13:39.15 | Zenac | on like... gedit here |
| 13:39.20 | Zenac | bash: /usr/bin/gedit: Permission denied |
| 13:39.21 | abrotman | Ward|: why are you using etch? and it's possible that ALSA isn't done loading yet |
| 13:39.21 | NoobAss | i think its installed but not working |
| 13:39.27 | jingwen | hello , |
| 13:39.40 | blackshirt | hello |
| 13:39.40 | Zenac | remur_030, i have no backups |
| 13:39.44 | Zenac | i just installed this 3 days ago |
| 13:39.52 | Zenac | :/ |
| 13:39.55 | remur_030 | Zenac: it seems you messed up by unplugging |
| 13:40.14 | remur_030 | it might have been in an update or another transaction to the disk |
| 13:40.16 | Zenac | i had to, it was frozen was my cpu fan was screaming and overheating |
| 13:40.27 | remur_030 | combine that with for example xfs and you are subscribing to trouble |
| 13:40.42 | Zenac | ext3 |
| 13:40.42 | jingwen | I had downdoad spa_supplicant sources ,but,it have no config file to make |
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| 13:41.00 | jingwen | I had downdoad spa_supplicant sources ,but,it have no config file to make, |
| 13:41.02 | Zenac | why does xchat, firefox, and gnome-terminal open though |
| 13:41.03 | remur_030 | Zenac: still might fail, xfs is just especially vurnurable |
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| 13:41.17 | abrotman | remur_030: xfs isn't like that anymore .. they fixed it quite some time ago |
| 13:41.22 | jingwen | who can help me |
| 13:41.27 | jingwen | I had downdoad spa_supplicant sources ,but,it have no config file to make, |
| 13:41.31 | abrotman | so you said |
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| 13:41.40 | abrotman | wtf is spa_supplicant ? |
| 13:41.42 | Zenac | ok |
| 13:41.44 | remur_030 | Zenac: well run a filesystem check, maybe it will find something, I can only guess something got damaged |
| 13:41.46 | Zenac | how do i drop to a shell |
| 13:41.48 | Zenac | on boot |
| 13:41.53 | Zenac | so i can run fsck |
| 13:42.01 | abrotman | Zenac: shutdown -rF |
| 13:42.06 | Zenac | segfault |
| 13:42.12 | abrotman | you get a segfault on that? |
| 13:42.14 | illio | abrotman, I assume he meant wpa_supplicant |
| 13:42.15 | Zenac | yup |
| 13:42.22 | Zenac | Funbox:/# shutdown -rF |
| 13:42.22 | Zenac | Segmentation fault |
| 13:42.25 | abrotman | Zenac: touch /forcefsck ; reboot |
| 13:42.26 | Rienzilla | lol |
| 13:42.34 | aguitel_ | remur_030, how i tell useragent to is firefox? |
| 13:42.38 | Zenac | abrotman, where at |
| 13:42.43 | abrotman | illio: he keeps repeating it .. figured he knew what he was talking about |
| 13:42.50 | Zenac | ah |
| 13:42.52 | abrotman | Zenac: where at what? i typed the exact command you want |
| 13:42.54 | remur_030 | abrotman: yes so I heard, but I lost my /home that way once and that's it for me with xfs =/ yeah nor did I do a backup that time =( |
| 13:42.54 | Zenac | that segfaults aswell |
| 13:43.01 | illio | abrotman, :-) |
| 13:43.02 | jingwen | I had downdoad spa_supplicant sources ,but,it have no config file to command ".configure", and I have try to wrote one |
| 13:43.08 | Zenac | abrotman, segfaulted man |
| 13:43.10 | remur_030 | aguitel_: google it |
| 13:43.14 | abrotman | Zenac: the touch or the reboot ? |
| 13:43.16 | Zenac | i cant run anything |
| 13:43.16 | jingwen | who can help me |
| 13:43.18 | abrotman | Zenac: ls / ? |
| 13:43.18 | Zenac | both |
| 13:43.18 | jingwen | I had downdoad spa_supplicant sources ,but,it have no config file to command ".configure", and I have try to wrote one |
| 13:43.22 | abrotman | jingwen: STOP REPEATING |
| 13:43.25 | Zenac | abrotman, that works |
| 13:43.32 | Zenac | force is there |
| 13:43.35 | abrotman | Zenac: do you see the "forcefsck" file ? |
| 13:43.41 | Zenac | yup |
| 13:43.45 | Zenac | its empty though |
| 13:44.03 | remur_030 | metalfoo: you are right with the up/down commented out it works just fine |
| 13:44.04 | jingwen | yes |
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| 13:44.13 | binarym | hi everybody |
| 13:44.13 | NoobAss | i think i killed my web server, i get a 500 error now :( |
| 13:44.23 | Zenac | abrotman, now what |
| 13:44.27 | Zenac | unplug my computer? |
| 13:44.35 | abrotman | Zenac: get the system to restart .. gracefully would be better than forceefully |
| 13:44.40 | Zenac | no chance |
| 13:44.42 | remur_030 | Zenac: try at least unmounting first |
| 13:44.44 | Zenac | segfaults |
| 13:44.44 | abrotman | does shutdown work? poweroff? reboot? halt? |
| 13:44.48 | Zenac | nope |
| 13:44.49 | metalfoo | remur_030: Once the interface is up, can you paste the command as it lives in the interfaces to your shell without problems? |
| 13:44.53 | abrotman | Zenac: init 6 ? |
| 13:45.02 | abrotman | guess he found something |
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| 13:45.30 | binarym | i have a directory that du -hs return 13Mb, if y cpio | gzip it, i got a .gz of 17Mb ... is it a normal behaviour ? |
| 13:45.36 | remur_030 | metalfoo: yes that works as well |
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| 13:45.55 | remur_030 | the problem isn't telling the ip command to work on the same interface that just goit setup? |
| 13:46.14 | remur_030 | on ifup there is a delay: [ 156.193739] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready |
| 13:46.36 | remur_030 | up will wait for the delay right? |
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| 13:46.46 | remur_030 | abrotman: i wonder how he got into irc with that machine |
| 13:46.53 | metalfoo | I think it will wait to the correspondence of "ip link up" |
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| 13:46.57 | abrotman | remur_030: telnet |
| 13:47.13 | Ward| | abrotman, this is a PDA, its the only image available |
| 13:47.23 | abrotman | HP Jornado ?:) |
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| 13:47.24 | Ward| | abrotman, sorry for the late reply i was out for a smoke |
| 13:47.35 | abrotman | Ward|: does sound work later? at all? |
| 13:47.35 | Ward| | abrotman, no a fiujitsu siemens pocket loox |
| 13:47.37 | Ward| | 720 |
| 13:47.44 | Ward| | abrotman, yes of course |
| 13:47.46 | remur_030 | hey, I got a 560 |
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| 13:47.52 | Ward| | abrotman, espeak and mplayer both work normally |
| 13:48.06 | abrotman | but after boot time is completed ... |
| 13:48.07 | remur_030 | still couldn't really get anything useful out of it =( |
| 13:48.14 | Ward| | abrotman, correct |
| 13:48.15 | NoobAss | how can i reinstall apach2 |
| 13:48.16 | NoobAss | ? |
| 13:48.20 | abrotman | Ward|: have you tried using sox or aplay ? |
| 13:48.24 | abrotman | !tell NoobAss about grounding |
| 13:48.29 | abrotman | !tell NoobAss about reinstall |
| 13:48.33 | Ward| | abrotman, nope is there more chance they might work on boot? |
| 13:48.34 | abrotman | !tell NoobAss about doc |
| 13:48.40 | abrotman | Ward|: they may have fewer deps |
| 13:48.50 | Ward| | abrotman, ok ill try |
| 13:49.06 | metalfoo | remur_030: As a workaround, you could try to call a script instead as up command, doing something like this "ip -6 addr up ... > /tmp/log 2>&1; exit 0" and look what happens |
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| 13:50.00 | remur_030 | metalfoo: hmm I was just thinking about adding an inet6 entry to interfaces to migate the 'up' problem |
| 13:50.30 | metalfoo | I'm unsure whether this will work unless you use either IPv4 or IPv6 exclusively |
| 13:51.07 | metalfoo | But you can - if you want - also use ifconfig for ipv6 instead of ip |
| 13:51.24 | Ward| | abrotman, aplay doesnt work either |
| 13:51.33 | abrotman | are you even using alsa? did you try sox? |
| 13:51.52 | Ward| | abrotman, yes because i need to use alsamixer to change volume |
| 13:52.00 | Ward| | abrotman, i'll try sox aswell |
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| 13:52.37 | abrotman | or perhaps the volume isn't set yet? |
| 13:52.49 | abrotman | does it give an error or silently fail ? |
| 13:52.59 | Ward| | abrotman, i dont think so, i dont need to set the volume when its booted |
| 13:53.09 | Ward| | abrotman, cant see any errors from rc.local |
| 13:53.10 | metalfoo | ifconfig eth0 inet6 add 2001:aaa:bbbb::2/64 should work |
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| 13:53.42 | Ward| | abrotman, silly question but how do i play ssomething with sox? |
| 13:54.20 | abrotman | sox filename ? |
| 13:54.28 | iron84 | anyone has this error? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=600706 |
| 13:54.41 | Ward| | abrotman, then it shows me the help |
| 13:54.48 | Ward| | abrotman, and the hel is completely useless |
| 13:55.00 | Ward| | "sox: Usage: [ gopts ] [ fopts ] ifile [ fopts ] ofile [ effect [ effopts ] ]" |
| 13:55.01 | abrotman | maybe sox isn't the command i was tihnking of |
| 13:55.05 | Ward| | now i know what to do... lol |
| 13:55.22 | Ward| | i dotn think there's anything more basic then aplay |
| 13:55.34 | Ward| | is there maybe a dirty was of gettin around this problem? |
| 13:55.38 | Ward| | dirty way |
| 13:55.55 | abrotman | iron84: that bug has been there for like an hour .. |
| 13:55.57 | abrotman | be patient |
| 13:56.07 | abrotman | Ward|: is there an error using mplayer ? |
| 13:56.15 | Ward| | abrotman, i cant see that |
| 13:56.27 | Ward| | abrotman, with espeak however it starts speaking when i login over ssh |
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| 13:56.33 | Ward| | abrotman, not a moment sooner |
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| 13:57.19 | debianlover | is linux any good? |
| 13:57.29 | Ward| | debianlover, no its crap |
| 13:57.37 | tolecnal | utter shite |
| 13:57.50 | debianlover | fair enough because i was contemplating weather or not to get it :/ |
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| 13:57.56 | binhoz | away: [Inativo por mais de 30 minutos] [desde: 11:58, page: on] |
| 13:57.56 | pcman | why call yourself debianlover if you dont know weather it is good or not? |
| 13:58.02 | raz | ehm |
| 13:58.04 | Ward| | debianlover, the point is that its a silly question |
| 13:58.10 | raz | how can i install vsftpd and proftpd side-by-side? |
| 13:58.21 | raz | when i try to install proftpd it wants to force uninstall vsftpd |
| 13:58.23 | debianlover | how can i upload hardware |
| 13:58.34 | Ward| | erm... what |
| 13:58.37 | pcman | has anyone here installed windows xp on to an acer aspire 1 ? |
| 13:58.38 | Ward| | upload hardware? |
| 13:58.47 | debianlover | takes skill i hear |
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| 13:58.51 | Ward| | debianlover, you mean you want to share what hardware you are using somehow? |
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| 13:59.01 | Ward| | debianlover, or what do you mean? |
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| 13:59.09 | pcman | how do you upload hardware? |
| 13:59.11 | debianlover | i dunno >.< |
| 13:59.19 | CHRIS_IS_GAY | CHRIS IS GAY |
| 13:59.42 | CHRIS_IS_GAY | irc harrassment xD |
| 13:59.42 | Bushmills | troll invasion? |
| 13:59.43 | Ward| | uploads his PDA |
| 13:59.52 | CHRIS_IS_GAY | troll invasion of barbarians!!!!!!! |
| 13:59.59 | l403 | hi. could you point me to some info about the disk UUIDs for disks. my fstab seems to be a bit broken since my system switched to this stile of volume naming |
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| 14:00.40 | Ward| | abrotman, so any more suggestions? no dirty way of gettign around the problem? |
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| 14:00.46 | Bushmills | pcman, there is no "windows" branch of debian |
| 14:00.48 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 14:00.55 | Ward| | abrotman, i was maybe thinking of automatic login of some sort |
| 14:00.59 | abrotman | binhoz-Away: msg me when you have fixed your IRC client |
| 14:01.27 | abrotman | Ward|: you never said if it throws an error |
| 14:01.40 | Ward| | abrotman, i said several times that i cannot see if it outputs anything |
| 14:01.49 | Ward| | abrotman, since its run fromrc.local |
| 14:01.58 | Ward| | abrotman, i'll try to redirect output to a file |
| 14:02.13 | remur_030 | l403: what kind of info you need? /dev/disk/by-* has symbolic links to the respective devices |
| 14:02.18 | abrotman | sorry, missed you saying that |
| 14:02.48 | Ward| | abrotman, i'm nost sure how to redirect the output but not the sound output |
| 14:02.59 | Ward| | abrotman, just splay bla.wav > file ? |
| 14:03.19 | abrotman | might want &> ? |
| 14:03.33 | Ward| | i dunno i wouldnt know |
| 14:03.35 | Bushmills | Ward|, alsa-utils should restore volume levels during boot |
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| 14:03.53 | Ward| | Bushmills, its not a vilume issue most likely |
| 14:04.22 | l403 | remur_030, I was thinking a link to some info about it from debhelper. thansk for this hint |
| 14:04.31 | Ward| | abrotman, Bushmills when i start espeak witn rc.local it DOES work, but it only plays the sound the moment i log in |
| 14:04.43 | Ward| | wih aply and mplayer it doesnt lay wound at all |
| 14:04.47 | Ward| | *play sound |
| 14:05.21 | Bushmills | is espeak using alsa? or oss, mayb+e? |
| 14:05.33 | Ward| | Bushmills, i don't know |
| 14:05.39 | abrotman | Ward|: who are you playing the sounds as? |
| 14:05.56 | Ward| | abrotman, root lol |
| 14:05.57 | itchi | Hi, how do i get my wireless card working? It's a: 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) |
| 14:06.14 | Ward| | abrotman, this thing never will go online, i dont need any secuity, i'm just using root for all of it |
| 14:06.15 | abrotman | itchi: which version of debian ? |
| 14:06.27 | itchi | I thought it was a matter of loading ath9k but it isn't alone that |
| 14:06.28 | Bushmills | oss doesn't mix, contrary to alsa. sound producing apps play through oss one after the other |
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| 14:06.31 | itchi | abrotman: squeeze |
| 14:06.33 | Ward| | abrotman, i'm usign the PDA as a intervalometer for my DSLR :) (to make timelapses) |
| 14:06.46 | Ward| | abrotman, i can set it up with my cellphone over bluetooth with anyremote :) |
| 14:07.00 | Ward| | this is probably the most creative use of linux i've done so far lol |
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| 14:07.06 | abrotman | !tell itchi about ath9k |
| 14:07.16 | abrotman | Ward|: you have too much free time |
| 14:07.25 | Ward| | abrotman, being unemployed sucks |
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| 14:07.34 | abrotman | sorry |
| 14:07.46 | Ward| | abrotman, lol no apologies needed :) |
| 14:07.47 | abrotman | Ward|: so there's no GUI ? |
| 14:08.02 | Ward| | abrotman, no the LCD is broken so i didnt install x |
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| 14:08.46 | itchi | abrotman: Thanks, i'm checking the wiki |
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| 14:09.30 | abrotman | Ward|: Do you know of a man named Rube Goldberg? :) |
| 14:09.35 | Ward| | abrotman, because the LCD is broken and there is no GUI i want to make a sound when the PDA is ready to be used over bluetooth |
| 14:09.58 | Ward| | abrotman, not that i remember (i'm in the EU which might be the reason) |
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| 14:10.21 | abrotman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg#Cultural_legacy |
| 14:10.44 | abrotman | Ward|: what is the actual command oyu're using to play the sounds? |
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| 14:12.19 | Ward| | abrotman, just aplay, no paths |
| 14:12.29 | Ward| | abrotman, i can try with the ful path if it has any use |
| 14:12.30 | abrotman | try the full path |
| 14:12.32 | Ward| | ok |
| 14:12.35 | bnguyen | how to get 'debian/rules' file if i'm not on Debian? |
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| 14:12.55 | itchi | abrotman: Well, i think i hit a bug with my wifi, found some usefull info here and a workarround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/464559 |
| 14:13.00 | abrotman | bnguyen: use packages.debian.org and download the source package |
| 14:13.25 | itchi | abrotman: Now it work, i need to check if i may need to do these command each time i reboot |
| 14:13.25 | KhashayaR- | any eggdrop expert here? |
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| 14:14.52 | Ward| | abrotman, same problem |
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| 14:16.28 | l403 | remur_030, I dont see a uuid for my /boot which cannot be mounted by uuid because of this |
| 14:16.31 | remur_030 | metalfoo: i did you script and it awnsers'RTNETLINK answers: Operation not supported ' |
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| 14:17.01 | remur_030 | l403: it only displays mounted fs in /dev/disk/by-UUID so you need to mount it first |
| 14:17.19 | remur_030 | metalfoo: so I guess it is a timing problem =( |
| 14:17.48 | l403 | the line in fstab has been replaced by some uuid variant |
| 14:17.51 | bnguyen | abrotman: I see 3 file .dsc, .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz. Is it in the .orig.tar.gz file ? |
| 14:17.59 | abrotman | you need to combine all three |
| 14:18.16 | l403 | I mounted the boot manually by using the /dev/sda1 |
| 14:18.29 | Ward| | abrotman, m redirecting now to see whats going on |
| 14:18.33 | l403 | remur_030^ |
| 14:18.33 | bnguyen | abrotman: how's that? |
| 14:18.45 | remur_030 | l403: and it doesn't show the uuid in /dev/disk/by-uuid? |
| 14:19.04 | metalfoo | try ip link set eth0 up right before in the script. If that still doesn't help try sleep or something dirty like that |
| 14:19.13 | l403 | remur_030, nope? should I generate some uuid by hand and make a link by hand? |
| 14:19.27 | l403 | blkid shows the same |
| 14:19.38 | remur_030 | l403: er no, it should turn up there by itself, you have udev running right? |
| 14:19.50 | Ward| | abrotman, its woerking now :) problem with the .wav file path |
| 14:19.50 | Rienzilla | hmm |
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| 14:20.10 | l403 | remur_030, udevd is running alright |
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| 14:20.26 | remur_030 | l403: is the whole directory empty? |
| 14:20.30 | remur_030 | or just /boot missing? |
| 14:21.30 | l403 | remur_030, there was just the /boot dir empty since no volume was mounted to it. now after manual mount it is showing the kernels and images |
| 14:21.52 | remur_030 | l403: no i mean /dev/disk/by-UUID |
| 14:22.04 | Rienzilla | I am trying to set up a bridge with some fancy configuration using the stuff provided in bridge-utils. According to bridge-utils-interfaces(5) I can set path costs for my bridge ports with the bridge_pathcost <port> <cost> option in interfaces. However, if I add a pathcost for more than one port (by using two bridge_ pathcosts directives), ifup will complain that my interfaces file contains a duplicate option |
| 14:22.33 | Rienzilla | is this a bug in ifup or bridge-utils? or am I doing something wrong |
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| 14:23.28 | l403 | remur_030, there is sda3 sda5 sdb2, just the sda1 which is supposed to be /boot is missing |
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| 14:24.16 | qwd | I'm trying to use crontab and gconftool-2 to set the theme according to the time of the day. Since gconftool-2 uses dbus I need to set the right env in the script (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bug/285937), which I've done, but it's still not working! Here's my setup http://debian.pastebin.com/r2srs7X2 |
| 14:24.25 | qwd | I have a script for finding the dbus session bus address but that doesn't work either so right now I'm setting it manually to keep things easy. |
| 14:24.43 | remur_030 | l403: sorry i am out of ideas here =/ |
| 14:24.58 | abrotman | Ward|: boo hiss! |
| 14:25.10 | abrotman | bnguyen: dpkg-source IIRC |
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| 14:25.23 | remur_030 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.24 | metalfoo | remur_030: Did you try my suggestion? |
| 14:25.33 | remur_030 | metalfoo: just did yes, still doesn't work |
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| 14:25.56 | metalfoo | Really strange |
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| 14:26.19 | remur_030 | hm no wait i made an error in the script |
| 14:26.39 | Ward| | abrotman, lol wth does that mean |
| 14:26.43 | l403 | remur_030, thanks for your time |
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| 14:27.12 | Ward| | abrotman, my PDA now says "Linux userspace ready, Sir." |
| 14:27.19 | remur_030 | metalfoo: he rejects the ip link set eth0 up on the same premise the link isn't ready yet |
| 14:27.20 | Ward| | when its booted :) |
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| 14:27.41 | metalfoo | remur_030: Than sadly only the sleep might help |
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| 14:28.18 | bnguyen | abrotman: but I'm not on Debian! |
| 14:28.26 | Rienzilla | any ideas? |
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| 14:28.59 | remur_030 | metalfoo: sleep works =/ |
| 14:29.59 | metalfoo | You can try to loop while it succeeds, that's a bit less dirty |
| 14:30.05 | metalfoo | loop until |
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| 14:31.14 | remur_030 | metalfoo: yep, thanks for all your help, I'll try to find out why it doesn't wait for it to get really up first |
| 14:32.07 | abrotman | bnguyen: oh duh .. hrm ... |
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| 14:34.02 | themill | bnguyen: the diff.gz is the debian build system and debian-specific patches. gunzip and pass to patch if you really want it, but if you're not building for debian then it will have limited interest for you anyway |
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| 14:38.40 | bnguyen | themill: I know that, just want the file debian/rules to see how the package is built so I can follow that on my system, but it seems impossible! I don't know where they 'hide' that file. |
| 14:39.22 | themill | bnguyen: as I said, the debian build system is in the diff.gz, so just look in there. zless package.diff.gz |
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| 14:40.08 | tombar | does anyone know if there is any frontend/webui for maradns? |
| 14:41.55 | skayser | hi guys, is there any helper tool to install Build-Depends: listed in a local debian/control file? rather than running dpkg-buildpackage, waiting for failed dep checks and installing one after another manually? |
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| 14:45.08 | aidan | How do I enable the smtp driver with exim? |
| 14:45.22 | bnguyen | themill: Oh, now I see, thanks. Thought that it's just patches to the source file. |
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| 14:46.01 | themill | skayser: mk-build-deps from the equivs package |
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| 14:48.54 | abrotman | aidan: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 14:49.26 | aidan | abrotman: I've changed too many files for exim, can I do a hard reset then reconfigure? |
| 14:49.37 | abrotman | !tell aidan about confmiss |
| 14:49.40 | abrotman | !tell aidan about confnew |
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| 14:51.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | twice? |
| 14:52.54 | Raven737 | Hi.. i would like to s2disk... how would i do it in lenny? (s2disk does not exist on my install and i don't know what package it might be in) |
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| 14:54.09 | aidan | that reinstall did not seem to work, |
| 14:54.10 | aidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.10 | aidan | 2010-10-19 14:53:51 Exim configuration error in line 795 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp: |
| 14:54.11 | Raven737 | ohh it's from Uswsusp |
| 14:54.24 | skayser | themill: thanks! |
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| 14:57.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | Raven737, there's s2d... oh, you found it - mind, it's not in squeeze because it's broken there |
| 14:58.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | Raven737, use one of the others like hibernate-disk in the hibernate package there |
| 14:59.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | and for finding packages by program-name... |
| 14:59.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell Raven737 -about apt-file |
| 14:59.19 | Raven737 | CutMeOwnThroat: Thanks! Was just typing to ask if i should use something else instead :) |
| 14:59.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | s2disk on lenny is fine afaik |
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| 15:00.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | !why is uswsusp not in testing |
| 15:00.17 | dpkg | uswsusp is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=uswsusp |
| 15:00.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | Raven737, if you follow that link and click around a bit you will find the bug report about ... unbootable systems and data loss with s2disk in unstable |
| 15:01.01 | stew | uswsusp is not in testing becuase its very buggy and the maintainer seems to be ignoring it |
| 15:01.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh... or you look at this |
| 15:01.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | !uswsusp |
| 15:01.13 | dpkg | uswsusp is a package providing userland support for the in-kernel <suspend> system, including the s2ram and s2disk programs. Not available for Squeeze due to Debian bug #528483. http://suspend.sf.net/ |
| 15:01.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | bugs.debian.org/528483 |
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| 15:02.29 | stew | dpkg: uswsusp =~ s,bug #528483,bugs #528483, #498917, #521147, #503337, |
| 15:02.55 | jww | I want to test some apps that make sounds. the problem is that I'm on ssh( also I don't have any speakers here ) . does someone have an idea ? |
| 15:03.12 | jww | I just need to know if something is playing or not. |
| 15:03.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | is that like... |
| 15:03.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | !rube goldberg install |
| 15:03.29 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke." |
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| 15:03.53 | binarym | mouahahaha |
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| 15:04.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | if a computer plays a song but nobody is there to hear, does it make a sound? |
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| 15:04.02 | jww | I think I could manage to install debian even with only the printer. |
| 15:04.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | is that some kind of zen? |
| 15:04.09 | jww | :) |
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| 15:04.59 | jww | I thinked some console equalizer or something could help. |
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| 15:05.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't think there's a way to determine if actual sound comes out of the actual speakers... |
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| 15:06.12 | sedulous | how can I configure wpa_supplicant to prefer 802.11n over slower networks? my campus has a lot of APs using the same essid, some 802.11g, some &n |
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| 15:06.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | but you'll get errors along the way if the alsa device is not missing etc |
| 15:07.08 | jww | sound right. |
| 15:08.19 | sedulous | alternatively, a preference list of BSSIDs in wpa_supplicant would be okay too. then I'd just add the 802.11n APs |
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| 15:11.28 | Raven737 | CutMeOwnThroat: Thank you! What about tuxonice? Ddoes the lenny 2.6.26-2-amd64 smp kernel support it or do i still need the kernel patch? |
| 15:12.15 | Raven737 | CutMeOwnThroat: I just read about it on http://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation |
| 15:12.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | no idea, never used that |
| 15:12.52 | Raven737 | CutMeOwnThroat: ok, nm i think i'll just stick with the hibernation package. Thank you :) |
| 15:13.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, there's a factoid also |
| 15:13.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tuxonice |
| 15:13.25 | dpkg | TuxOnIce (formerly Suspend2, swsusp) is a project providing a set of kernel patches that let you suspend your laptop to disk within half a minute, then wake it into the previous state. Packaged for Debian as linux-patch-tuxonice and tuxonice-userui. http://www.tuxonice.net/FAQ.html #tux-on-ice on irc.freenode.net. Also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <suspend>. |
| 15:13.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes... seems you have to patch the kernel for that |
| 15:14.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | does it have additional functionality that can justify the extra efort? |
| 15:14.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | effort* |
| 15:15.46 | Raven737 | CutMeOwnThroat: well nothing i really need i think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TuxOnIce |
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| 15:16.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, speed is good... but if you save 30 seconds, you will have to do it often to justify 2 hours compiling kernel :-P |
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| 15:17.48 | Raven737 | CutMeOwnThroat: yea exactly. I rather keep the unpatched kernel :) |
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| 15:18.03 | Raven737 | ehh rather not patch the kernel i mean |
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| 15:22.10 | SparFux | Is there a free dictating machine for debian?/ |
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| 15:22.40 | jww | hi SparFux . |
| 15:22.47 | SparFux | hi jww |
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| 15:31.22 | cesurasean1 | Can Windows connect to an ext3 filesystem directly? Without the help of samba? |
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| 15:32.48 | Tom01 | I don't know of anything else than fat and ntfs for windumb. |
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| 15:34.12 | jww | cesurasean1: I saw some tools that allow to open ext2/3 fs. |
| 15:34.36 | jww | I don't remenber the name trough, lemme seeks it. |
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| 15:35.24 | jww | http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html |
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| 15:36.02 | cesurasean1 | jww, the problem I'm having is, the Netgear 101 ONLY seems to allow DataPlow filesystem via Windows. When, I installed the same applicaiton onto Linux, it wants to write ext2 file systems, and I'm not able to mount the DataPlow.???? |
| 15:37.17 | cesurasean1 | i seems Linux does not support DataPlow? |
| 15:37.49 | jww | google say it does support it. |
| 15:38.25 | cesurasean1 | google say what supports it? |
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| 15:44.50 | aidan | Can anyone help me with this exim4 setup? http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/#comment-2570 ... I've followed the instructions very carefully, but I'm still getting: R=send_via_gmail defer (-30): transport âgmail_smtpâ not found in send_via_gmail router |
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| 15:46.49 | themill | jeje: stop ircing as root |
| 15:47.39 | antimony | he's on windows |
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| 15:51.19 | cesurasean1 | themill, do you mind giving some advice on my situation? |
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| 15:53.28 | Tom01 | Is somebody using Objective-C or GNUStep by accident? Does not seem to be working correctly on Lenny. |
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| 16:03.23 | sile | ls |
| 16:03.24 | timmytime | we are the open source community lower your volume and surrender your operating system we will add your source codes distictiveness too our own your culutre will adapt to service ours, resistance is futile |
| 16:03.29 | sile | ups =D |
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| 16:08.30 | Bushmills | http://scarydevilmonastery.net/resist.jpg <- resistance is futile |
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| 16:08.45 | yang | Is there a Multiseat display manager software in Debian ? |
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| 16:18.02 | der | hi does exist any samba performance tweaks? |
| 16:18.20 | stew | der: perhaps ask #samba |
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| 16:18.52 | rpgdude | i installed evolution-mapi package but the plugin does not appear in evolution? |
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| 16:22.02 | arif-ali | anybody here know much about the netboot image, I am trying to netboot my machines, and it is not detecting the HDD, the driver I need is sata_svw. I have tried including the driver into the initrd myself, but without any luck. I get "libata: Unknown symbol register_hotplug_dock_device" |
| 16:22.08 | rpgdude | i think im seeing bug 599075 |
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| 16:24.03 | CoolCold | arif-ali: try backported d-i ? |
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| 16:25.18 | arif-ali | CoolCold: can you explain, I am new to preseed, so am learning all of this along, or do you want me to google backported d-i |
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| 16:27.50 | arif-ali | CoolCold, I also have the same issue with the squeeze netboot images as well, I would have thought that it would have the relevant drivers |
| 16:28.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | !kmuto |
| 16:28.12 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
| 16:28.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | arif-ali, ^^^ he means those images, which use a newer kernel for a lenny install and hence are able to detect newer hardware than the regular lenny installers |
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| 16:29.47 | arif-ali | CutMeOwnthroat, Ok, I understand that, thanks, I will give that a go |
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| 16:30.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... and it's easier to just download those than fiddle with initrd yourself, so it's kind of the first option |
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| 16:30.51 | cesurasean | Can someone help me to understand this website? - http://code.google.com/p/sc101-nbd/ |
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| 16:31.14 | cesurasean | Does it mean when i use the linux drivers, and create a ext2 filesystem, those files are DIFFERENT from the existing dataplow? |
| 16:31.26 | cesurasean | and that my windows system and linux can't share the same space on the NAS? |
| 16:31.45 | thewanderer1 | cesurasean: correct |
| 16:32.02 | cesurasean | so, i get double the space? |
| 16:32.12 | cesurasean | that sounds weird.... |
| 16:32.13 | thewanderer1 | "The resulting storage area is not interoperable with existing Windows clients." - it means Windows is unable to use the space allocated for Linux fs |
| 16:32.39 | cesurasean | Why would windows not be able to use it? |
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| 16:32.54 | thewanderer1 | no driver? no ext* support? no network block device support in Windows? |
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| 16:35.25 | Bushmills | ext2 drivers for windows exists |
| 16:35.52 | cesurasean | Bushmills, if I install the ex2 drivers for Windows, how do I actually "map" this device? |
| 16:36.10 | cesurasean | because, the current software on Windows is using Dataplow.... |
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| 16:36.25 | Bushmills | i never used them. only looked for ext2 drivers a while ago, found two different ones. |
| 16:36.57 | yang | I am wondering how well are Asus 4350 graphical cards supported vs. Gigabyte 4350 ? |
| 16:36.58 | ma3x | hello. i got this email SMART error (CurrentPendingSector) detected on host: localhost Device: /dev/sda, 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors.... is my hd by any chance going kaputt? |
| 16:36.59 | CoolCold | yeah, i meant kmuto images |
| 16:36.59 | cesurasean | Bushmills, it seems I would need the ext2 drivers, and some other type of drivers to connect to the unit itself... |
| 16:37.12 | jhutchins_lt | cesurasean: This may be a question for ##windows |
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| 16:37.28 | Bushmills | no idea what unit. i read "no ext support" and dared to disagree |
| 16:37.50 | cesurasean | an Netgear sc101 NAS |
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| 16:38.35 | cesurasean | there is linux drivers, which will only create ext partitions, etc, I'm guessing because DataPlow SFS isn't freeware, yet, and then there is a Windows app that uses the dataplow currently and connects to the NAS.. |
| 16:38.59 | cesurasean | I was able to use Debian to connect to the NAS, and format a filesystem, but doesn't seem I can access that filesystem from Windows. |
| 16:39.17 | Bushmills | you can probably use some network file system to mount the device's storage |
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| 16:39.35 | brummbaer | i'm having problems w/ nfs-kernel-server failing to start, any tips on debugging would be greatly appreciated... error is here: http://debian.pastebin.com/y7NhXUyV |
| 16:39.38 | cesurasean | network file system? |
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| 16:41.17 | Bushmills | brummbaer, low memory system? |
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| 16:41.39 | jhutchins_lt | cesurasean: This is mostly a windows problem, but if you use ntfs you can access with either linux or windows. |
| 16:41.48 | arif-ali | CutMeOwnthroat, CoolCold, thanks for your help, but the backported d-i didn't work either |
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| 16:42.50 | cesurasean | jhutchins_lt, how would I access a NAS without having some kind of drivers to install? |
| 16:43.08 | brummbaer | bushmills, it's a qnap ts-109 (debian arm) but it only uses between 48-87 megs of the 256 avail |
| 16:43.24 | cesurasean | Windows installation program for this NAS only supports DataPlow. I'm guessing I would have to remove the utility, and somehow connect to the NAS's IP address, somehow. |
| 16:43.36 | Bushmills | brummbaer, what does cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory say? |
| 16:43.49 | jhutchins_lt | cesurasean: No clue. Linux includes both nfs and cifs drivers, but that's not the same as a NAS mount. |
| 16:44.29 | cesurasean | let me better ask my question. how exactly does this program mount to a network file system using linux - http://code.google.com/p/sc101-nbd/ |
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| 16:44.38 | jhutchins_lt | cesurasean: Never heard of "DataPlow", no idea what it implies. Suggest you stick to support channels and software provided with the NAS. |
| 16:44.48 | cesurasean | im guessing i would need the equivalent for windows to connect to it... |
| 16:44.59 | brummbaer | bushmills, i don't have access right this second, but i'll check that... i checked /proc/fs/nfsd/versions and it had indeed written the version string... |
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| 16:45.11 | brummbaer | so i wasn't really sure what that msg meant or even where to look next |
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| 16:45.41 | cesurasean | DataPlow is a filesystem created by a company called DataPlow ( from what ive learned thus far ) |
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| 16:46.19 | cesurasean | jhutchins_lt, Linux isn't supported by Netgear, ofcourse. |
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| 16:46.48 | Bushmills | well, bug them |
| 16:47.20 | cesurasean | join ##netgear |
| 16:47.49 | cesurasean | whoops |
| 16:48.01 | cesurasean | seems #netgear is locked. :( |
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| 16:49.34 | aidan | Can anyone help me with this exim4 setup? http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/#comment-2570 ... I've followed the instructions very carefully, but I'm still getting: R=send_via_gmail defer (-30): transport âgmail_smtpâ not found in send_via_gmail router |
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| 16:55.56 | ska | in X-windows that is. |
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| 16:57.16 | thewanderer1 | yang: the vendor of any given GPU does not matter, only the chipset matters |
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| 16:57.58 | thewanderer1 | ska: the "system resolution" will be assumed by X.org as soon as you start it - it will be the minimum of two values: monitor res and GPU res |
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| 17:01.19 | leshak | Hi \o/ someone know how can i create an distro based on Debian just for learn :) i'm studying linux but i like so much debian lenny, someone can help me? |
| 17:01.56 | tarzeau | leshak: using live-helper (it got renamed) |
| 17:02.06 | tarzeau | but there's transitional packages with that name. good luck |
| 17:02.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | a distro identical to debian but a different one? |
| 17:02.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | is that some kind of zen? |
| 17:03.00 | leshak | tarzeau: waht? sorry but i don't understand. |
| 17:03.27 | tarzeau | leshak: aptitude install live-helper |
| 17:03.51 | tarzeau | CutMeOwnThroat: it's called debian based distribution, doing things you need get done |
| 17:03.56 | tarzeau | CutMeOwnThroat: i got mine at livecd.gnustep.org |
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| 17:05.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's for building a live-cd.... not inherently what I would have thought of when he says " create an distro based on Debian"... that makes me think of something like sidux or *buntu |
| 17:06.14 | Bushmills | wonders what one can learn from creating a custom distribution by using tools for that purpose |
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| 17:07.21 | Bushmills | (other than how to use those tools) |
| 17:07.23 | leshak | tarzeau: with this i can create my distro based on debian? |
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| 17:07.34 | tarzeau | leshak: yes |
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| 17:07.44 | tarzeau | Bushmills: very much |
| 17:07.51 | tarzeau | Bushmills: there's no point not using live-helper |
| 17:07.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | leshak, how do you define "distro based on debian" |
| 17:08.04 | themill | !blend |
| 17:08.04 | dpkg | A Debian Pure Blend (aka Blend, formerly Custom Debian Distribution) is a subset of Debian configured to support a particular target group out-of-the-box. Not to be confused with distributions <based on Debian>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends #debian-custom on irc.oftc.net. |
| 17:08.17 | tarzeau | CutMeOwnThroat: it will create a distro if you want, you can just put your own installer, and stuff on it whatever you want |
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| 17:08.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | blend-a-med |
| 17:08.43 | tarzeau | how is a distribution defined? by the package manager? then there's rpm, and deb |
| 17:08.58 | tarzeau | ubuntu is another distribuion, isn't it? but it's based on debian |
| 17:09.02 | themill | wtf? |
| 17:09.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | lets ask dpkg, who knows everything... |
| 17:09.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, distribution |
| 17:09.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, distribution is a collection of goodies built around a kernel like Linux. Ask me about <debian> and <why debian>. |
| 17:09.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 17:09.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | tarzeau, it'S a collection of goodies |
| 17:09.41 | jelly-home | oh, goodies |
| 17:10.13 | tarzeau | now that clears it up! |
| 17:10.49 | tarzeau | and my collection of goodies has gnustep since i really don't like gnome, or kde. and i also dislike mozilla/firefox and all their products |
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| 17:12.23 | amgarching | hi, I have eth0 configured with dhcp and getting a default route, another interface eth1 has a static IP and a different entry for default route. How do I make the static route only to be activated at boot time? |
| 17:12.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh effing aptitude |
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| 17:14.30 | leshak | i'll not be happy while i'm not create my distro based on debian T_T |
| 17:14.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's a weird thing to base your happieness on |
| 17:15.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | happiness* |
| 17:15.25 | Bushmills | amgarching, configure your dhcp client to not replace default route |
| 17:16.14 | tarzeau | leshak: i have done some tests to run my stuff on debian gnu/kfreebsd too :) funny |
| 17:16.26 | amgarching | Bushmills: can one abuse "metric" entry in /etc/network/interfaces for preferring one or another? |
| 17:17.09 | Bushmills | route? most likely. not sure whether metric works with default route, but i see no reason why it shouldn't |
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| 17:18.34 | leshak | tarzeau: i want create an distro as the remote-exploit staff made, BackTrack 4 is Debian/Ubuntu-based! i want learn how make this.. |
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| 17:18.44 | amgarching | lower metric == higher precedence? |
| 17:19.00 | Bushmills | a trick done by some program to "temporarily" replace default routes is to add two routes, 0.0.0.0/1 and 128.0.0.0/1 |
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| 17:19.35 | Bushmills | that leaves original default route intact, allowing its reuse when these two routes are removed again |
| 17:21.19 | tarzeau | leshak: yes read all about live-helper |
| 17:21.26 | tarzeau | leshak: i know the backtrack guy max btw :) |
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| 17:24.04 | leshak | tarzeau: backtrack 4 be perfect, do you know if him was be make with this "live-helper" ? |
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| 17:35.53 | amgarching | no, metric entry in /etc/network/interfaces is ignored for "iface eth0 inet dhcp", respected for "... static" |
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| 17:38.33 | amgarching | and I doubt that negative metric would be accepted |
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| 17:40.57 | stew | amgarching: metric is typically unused anyway |
| 17:41.04 | stew | s/unused/ignored/ |
| 17:41.30 | thewanderer1 | stew: all routing takes metric into consideration when two routes exist with the same dest network |
| 17:41.41 | stew | thewanderer1: in what os? |
| 17:41.49 | stew | in linux? |
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| 17:43.25 | a_l_e | can anybody help getting a dvd to play under testing? |
| 17:43.40 | a_l_e | i get "libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB (0x000001c6)" |
| 17:43.48 | a_l_e | any chance to see anything? |
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| 17:48.32 | kokand | How can I restart network in sqeeze? "/etc/init.d/networkin restart" or "invoke-rc.d networkin restart" says, that function is deprecated. And really not loads my interface eth0. Help, pleace! |
| 17:49.08 | skrewla | why does /etc/resolv.conf keep getting cleared when i switch from eth0 to wlan0? |
| 17:49.47 | kokand | Sorry for my bad English :) |
| 17:51.41 | a_l_e | ok, setting the region code did help a bit... |
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| 17:55.18 | a_l_e | now it plays a bit scrambled in mplayer... xine tells me that it can't read it... |
| 17:55.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | a_l_e, did you install libdvdcss2 from debian-multimedia? |
| 17:55.38 | a_l_e | CutMeOwnThroat: yes |
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| 17:56.28 | jhutchins | skrewla: DHCP for wlan0 is overwriting it. |
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| 17:56.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought that should do it... but I never play dvds myself... thought I gave it a whirl just to see if it works, though |
| 17:57.12 | a_l_e | trying to install vlc... |
| 17:57.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | aww, don't do that... |
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| 17:57.55 | a_l_e | CutMeOwnThroat: why? |
| 17:57.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | trying to "fix" things by installing random different players... figure out what goes wrong and fix that |
| 17:58.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's a bit like people installing 100 different distros to see if one of them autodetects their wireless chipset |
| 17:58.28 | a_l_e | well... i promise that i will stop after vlc... and, first, remove xine... |
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| 17:59.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you dtry mplayer first? |
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| 18:00.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno, it seems to play the only dvd I have lying around without problems |
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| 18:01.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | don't seem to have any of the other players installed |
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| 18:02.05 | kokand | Ok, found answer for my question: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/390797 |
| 18:02.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh, not even sure that dvd uses css... it has VOB and BUP files, but file says "MPG sequence" |
| 18:02.41 | a_l_e | ok, vlc plays the menus... but the video is still scrambled... |
| 18:03.46 | evilbulg1rian | hi, i have 3 interfaces 1 wlan 1 wifi 1 local whats the best way to allow only certain mac's on wifi full access rest only web? currently i have loc and wifi bridged. |
| 18:04.04 | a_l_e | i have lots of error messages on the terminal... |
| 18:04.35 | tarzeau | leshak: no that was another guy, daniel, that i know too :) |
| 18:04.43 | a_l_e | so, it can play it... but give me lots of lots of errors... |
| 18:04.44 | ukine | how would i run a shell script on login? |
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| 18:05.20 | leshak | tarzeau: O_o ? |
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| 18:12.47 | jhutchins | !rc.local |
| 18:12.47 | dpkg | /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is regarded as a hack, consider writing a real init script instead, ask me about <init.d>. |
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| 18:15.58 | karsten-nr | query dpkg test |
| 18:16.51 | thewanderer1 | evilbulg1rian: iptables... |
| 18:16.53 | xyan | / |
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| 18:22.34 | jhutchins_lt | ukine: As far as "on login" goes, it depends on how you're logging in. |
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| 18:24.24 | ukine | jhutchins_lt, automatic through gdk |
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| 18:24.57 | jhutchins_lt | ukine: K, I'm a kde person myself, but you have rc files in your home directory that can do that. |
| 18:25.11 | jhutchins_lt | What is it you want to run? |
| 18:25.54 | DaRealDukeDevlin | Figures... I couldn't find my answer on the wiki, but I could on the main site. |
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| 18:27.01 | ukine | 'hamachi login' as root jhutchins |
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| 18:27.37 | ukine | readme said it should take the last state on bootup but it's not been running through a few reboots now |
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| 18:31.54 | DaRealDukeDevlin | Anyone here familiar with Fontforge? |
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| 18:39.15 | azkorl | I'm curious, is there a place where I can find out updates about Squeeze? |
| 18:39.38 | karsten-nr | azkorl: What sort of updates? |
| 18:39.41 | azkorl | When will it get out... |
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| 18:40.22 | Rug | Does anybody have much experience with iptables that would mind helping me out? I have asked in #netfilter, but did not get a reply. |
| 18:41.42 | Bushmills | !ask |
| 18:41.42 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 18:43.00 | DaRealDukeDevlin | Does anybody know if Fontforge has gone through any major updates to the GUI and functionality in the past 3 years since I last tried it? |
| 18:43.12 | _kodiak_ | Hi. |
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| 18:43.29 | samson869 | hello |
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| 18:43.34 | abrotman | DaRealDukeDevlin: did you try checking their website? |
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| 18:44.15 | DaRealDukeDevlin | Yeah. But I couldn't find any current screenshots there or anything. |
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| 18:45.28 | samson869 | i was searching for help but couldn't find any about a problem i have where I set a cron to run a file in some direcory and it does not recognize the path and try to open files that are called from the cron in the path you run the cron on |
| 18:45.33 | samson869 | anyone have any idea |
| 18:45.34 | samson869 | ? |
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| 18:47.12 | DaRealDukeDevlin | That, and I'm trying my best to weed through all the small changes in their changelogs and find the big ones. Like, can you now use vector outlines copy-pasted from an SVG program? Have they actually changed the layout? Any new hotkeys? |
| 18:47.32 | abrotman | you could just uh ... try it ? |
| 18:47.45 | Rug | Should this work: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 1234 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.181:22 (SSH from world on port 1234 gets forwarded to ip: 192.168.0.181) |
| 18:47.47 | abrotman | it is in debian |
| 18:47.55 | DaRealDukeDevlin | I'll be doing that in a few hours. Getting Debian right now. |
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| 18:48.24 | DaRealDukeDevlin | I've "needed" Windows for school, so I've been lacking on my Linux-ness. |
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| 18:48.56 | metalfoo | That's no excuse |
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| 18:49.18 | Rug | DaRealDukeDevlin: use Virtualbox, or VMWare |
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| 18:49.28 | sweetpi | Is the point of the squashfs images on http://live.debian.net/cdimage/daily-builds/squeeze/current/i386/web/ only for the web image builder? |
| 18:49.30 | DaRealDukeDevlin | 40+hours at work + Full-time schooling leaves very little playtime. |
| 18:49.57 | Rug | DaRealDukeDevlin: yes it does |
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| 18:51.02 | samson869 | no cron masters around? |
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| 18:51.36 | hochron | what is the advantage of VirtualBox or VMWare over dual booting? |
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| 18:52.10 | abrotman | you don't have to dual boot ? |
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| 18:52.14 | wooden | hochron: You don't have to fuss with repartitioning. You can easily save multiple states. |
| 18:52.21 | metalfoo | You don't have to leave IRC and can continue to idle, simulating you were using Linux in its entirely |
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| 18:52.34 | HSorgYves | morning; is there a way to find out what (command, press of power button, ...) lead to "shutdown[24144]: shutting down for system halt" in the log files? |
| 18:52.54 | DaRealDukeDevlin | You also need a better computer to run vmware withou a good bit of lag. |
| 18:53.15 | DaRealDukeDevlin | Well, better than my P4 desktop. >.> |
| 18:53.32 | hochron | ok, thanks... I think I will leave my disks partitioned and continue with my existing setup. |
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| 18:56.06 | ksx4system | what is wrong with my iptables config? http://wklej.org/id/403986/txt/ (i want nat - eth1 has internet connection and allowing any traffic going anywhere) |
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| 18:57.16 | runa | heyas. what can I use to see the accumulated bytes readed/written to disk by process? |
| 18:58.23 | Tramp | ksx4system: if your eth1 is external, you want -o eth1 in the MASQUERADE rule |
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| 19:11.01 | TimmyT | I have a Lenovo g550. It has a GMA intel graphic accelerator. I use debian 5.0.0 lenny. Debian couldn't detect my graphic card.someone here told me update your kernel using backport mirrors. I did. I've got 2.6.32-bpo.5-686. I've installed that.but it doesn't solve my problem yet. |
| 19:11.36 | TimmyT | How to solve this? |
| 19:12.51 | TimmyT | hola |
| 19:12.53 | TimmyT | ??? |
| 19:13.00 | abrotman | timmyt: that won't be enough |
| 19:13.03 | scientes | how do i search in apttitude for packages with holds? |
| 19:13.10 | abrotman | !tell timmyt about lenny->squeeze |
| 19:13.17 | abrotman | scientes: i don't believe you can .. |
| 19:13.33 | abrotman | is pretty sure he saw stew say two weeks ago that he couldn't figure it out |
| 19:14.09 | abrotman | scientes: aptitude search '~ahold' ? |
| 19:14.13 | themill | aptitude search '?action(hold)' |
| 19:14.36 | abrotman | must have been something else then :) |
| 19:14.46 | stew | lies |
| 19:15.09 | abrotman | i just remember you saying you couldn't figure out a way to make aptitude find something .. i thought it was holds, must have been something else |
| 19:15.17 | themill | dpkg: tell scientes about aptitude search |
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| 19:19.45 | toe_ | regarding 64studio |
| 19:19.47 | toe_ | my problem is the main screen loads up from the cd and according to the site it says type install. my result Could not find kernel image : install |
| 19:20.09 | abrotman | toe_: wrong channel |
| 19:20.12 | abrotman | !studio64 |
| 19:20.13 | dpkg | 64 Studio is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, oriented towards audio/video recording and media production. It uses a custom kernel with realtime patches added. It is not supported in #debian. http://64studio.com/ #64studio on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:20.17 | abrotman | thank you, have a nice day |
| 19:20.38 | deStonnne | i'm having a problem sshing into a box -- the box has iptables running, but i've allowed all traffic form the sources ip address... still not getting naywhere... any thoughts of something I could be missing? |
| 19:20.39 | stew | abrotman: half installed packages? |
| 19:21.06 | abrotman | oh, yes .. that was it .. half/hold .. same thing! :) |
| 19:21.07 | stew | deStonnne: rules out of order? (traffic denied before it hits the rule to allow it?) |
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| 19:21.18 | toe_ | theres none in that channel |
| 19:21.29 | abrotman | stew: don't i get bonus points for remembering that you said it and it was a four letter word that starts with an 'h' ? :) |
| 19:21.30 | stew | toe_: that sucks. try to find a mailing list, perhaps |
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| 19:21.44 | stew | abrotman: you get 4 bonus points |
| 19:21.48 | abrotman | !karma abrotman |
| 19:21.49 | dpkg | abrotman has karma of 47 |
| 19:21.50 | abrotman | yay! |
| 19:22.04 | toe_ | has anyone ever had that simular message with another version of debain or linux in general |
| 19:22.12 | abrotman | toe_: you can also try ##linux |
| 19:22.26 | stew | toe_: in the debian installer you'd hit f1 for help |
| 19:23.09 | abrotman | didn't even know studio64 was still around |
| 19:23.16 | stew | i might argue that "half-installed" has more than 4~ letters |
| 19:23.21 | abrotman | half! |
| 19:23.27 | stew | 2 letters? |
| 19:23.35 | DaRealDukeDevlin | hi |
| 19:23.41 | abrotman | did you ever find a way to search for them ? |
| 19:23.46 | TimmyT | Is there any version of Turbo Pascal available for Debian? |
| 19:24.02 | stew | no, though i stopped looking when I made that claim |
| 19:24.03 | TimmyT | I Googled that |
| 19:24.10 | TimmyT | there was nothing |
| 19:24.24 | metalfoo | Free Pascal does exist. |
| 19:24.35 | metalfoo | Package fp-* |
| 19:24.43 | metalfoo | Not that anyone would use Pascal anymore. |
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| 19:25.21 | TimmyT | metalfoo:tnx. but I want Turbo Pascal. there is differences between these two compilers |
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| 19:25.51 | metalfoo | Turbo Pascal (of course) doesn't exist on Linux, as it's a propietary compiler/ide from Borland. |
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| 19:26.27 | maligor | Lazarus? |
| 19:26.29 | TimmyT | But I can remember one in openSUSE |
| 19:26.33 | TimmyT | I'm sure |
| 19:26.34 | maligor | it's a pascal ide iirc |
| 19:26.38 | abrotman | it was free pascal ... |
| 19:26.44 | abrotman | Turbo Pascal is pretty bad anyway .. |
| 19:26.49 | abrotman | is sad to know that |
| 19:27.15 | metalfoo | Turbo Pascal is more than old. |
| 19:27.39 | HSorgYves | morning; is there a way to find out what (command, press of power button, ...) lead to "shutdown[24144]: shutting down for system halt" in the log files? |
| 19:27.49 | metalfoo | It's like "Let's file as if it were 1990" |
| 19:27.59 | metalfoo | feel |
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| 19:28.44 | toe_ | i have a better question does anyone own a Presonus Firepod and uses it with linux |
| 19:30.04 | TimmyT | abrotman: I have a personal question. Don't you ever sleep?:-D |
| 19:32.14 | DaRealDukeDevlin | People still sleep? |
| 19:32.27 | TimmyT | !studio64 |
| 19:32.27 | dpkg | 64 Studio is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, oriented towards audio/video recording and media production. It uses a custom kernel with realtime patches added. It is not supported in #debian. http://64studio.com/ #64studio on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:32.29 | DaRealDukeDevlin | I forgot all about that when I moved to vegas. |
| 19:32.47 | TimmyT | !tell timmyt about lenny->squeeze |
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| 19:33.38 | thomas | greetings: I have a Lenny install and need to insytall some modules to allow pptp through firewall. I haven't custom built a kernel in years, is it possible to just add the modules in ? |
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| 19:35.47 | TiCPU | I've got a problems with grub, currently on squeeze, grub-legacy (using md RAID metadata 1.2), on LVM, GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true in default/grub and root= is UUID=xx.. is there a way to make it /dev/mapper/vgDebian-root |
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| 19:36.42 | T_X- | hi there, I'm currently getting some "503 Forwarding failure"'s on debian unstable. I'm probably missing something obvious... |
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| 19:38.01 | T_X- | ah, got it solved :D |
| 19:38.16 | T_X- | there was still a proxy inserted in apt.conf |
| 19:41.09 | scientes | i couldn't figure out how to search held packages in aptitude |
| 19:41.14 | scientes | from those docs |
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| 19:46.26 | TiCPU | 900 users, no one to help! |
| 19:46.39 | TiCPU | it is quite silencious |
| 19:48.54 | somiaj | scientes: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold (not sure how to do it apititude though) |
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| 19:50.34 | simonrvn | 'silent' |
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| 19:51.36 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 19:57.18 | itchi | abrotman: Cool man, laptop is up and running since a few hours, till now all is ok :) |
| 19:57.23 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 20:00.56 | thomas | greetings: looking for a tutorial on installing modules the debian way. ( I used to do this a few years back, but not the "debian way") |
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| 20:03.42 | phogg | thomas: modules for what? |
| 20:03.51 | phogg | thomas: the kernel? |
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| 20:04.44 | qq- | !m-a |
| 20:04.45 | dpkg | module-assistant is, like, a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and install them. "aptitude install module-assistant". See usage examples at http://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant . Log files from successful (and unsuccessful!) builds can be found in /var/cache/modass/ |
| 20:05.05 | thomas | phogg: yes, I need to add in a cople of modules for pptp |
| 20:05.08 | phogg | thomas: what dpkg said ^^^ |
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| 20:05.50 | phogg | really /var/cache/m-a/ would have been more consistent and easier to remember |
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| 20:06.01 | thomas | dpkg: I did the m=a thing and did not see the modules listed, that I need. |
| 20:06.01 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, thomas |
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| 20:07.16 | phogg | thomas: dpkg is a bot |
| 20:07.46 | DaRealDukeDevlin | ^ There's a first time for everything? |
| 20:08.01 | phogg | DaRealDukeDevlin: first time since last restart, maybe |
| 20:08.07 | phogg | I know I've confused dpkg a number of times |
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| 20:17.42 | orschiro | hi guys, I'd like to install debian testing using the daily snapshot. but I need a internet connection configured with wpa_supplicant during installation. how can I do this? |
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| 20:19.37 | arif-ali | does anyone know why libata driver is not in any of the netboot images including the backport d-i |
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| 20:22.44 | simonrvn | !libata |
| 20:22.44 | dpkg | libata is a Linux library supporting ATA controllers and devices. Devices handled by libata appear as SCSI devices with associated device names: 'sd' (hard drive, instead of 'hd'), 'sr' (optical), 'st' (tape). The old IDE (PATA) drivers are replaced with libata in Debian kernel images as of linux-2.6 2.6.32-10. http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Libata_FAQ . See also <uuid>. |
| 20:23.52 | simonrvn | arif-ali: ^^ |
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| 20:26.19 | arif-ali | simonrvn: thanks, how do I go about using this driver, as I have old HW which requires the sata_svw -> libata -> scsi_mod, I have tried putting the relevant modules into the initrd, but that doesn't seem to work |
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| 20:29.59 | simonrvn | arif-ali: old hw probably works with it (as long as there's a driver ;) |
| 20:30.41 | DXB | hi, how to install the identd in debian? |
| 20:30.45 | simonrvn | most do as it's been kernel policy to get rid of the old ide stuff entirely, eventually. |
| 20:30.59 | simonrvn | !installit |
| 20:30.59 | dpkg | Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 20:31.25 | simonrvn | like the last part says, with apt-get or aptitude |
| 20:32.35 | stew | DXB: there are a few to choose from, "aptitude search '~Pident-server'" will show the choices, "aptitude install packagename" to install one |
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| 20:34.13 | jkprg | hi! can you help to find documentation how create autotools config files to allow to specify library path as configure's parameter? Thx |
| 20:35.26 | DXB | stew thanks |
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| 20:36.06 | stew | DXB: do you need/want to give our accurate responses, or just *something |
| 20:37.17 | DXB | I need to remove this form my ip exp: *!*~@* |
| 20:37.57 | stew | DXB: then you just need any response, which nullident can do |
| 20:38.11 | stew | i think, i'm not sure I understood your answer fully |
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| 20:39.55 | DXB | stew thanks |
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| 20:42.12 | [SkG] | DXB install identd config it and open port 113 on your router |
| 20:42.23 | [SkG] | read about it on inthernet, should work |
| 20:43.00 | [SkG] | identd, midentd, oidentd, ... |
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| 20:43.18 | tux0 | ll |
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| 20:45.28 | arif-ali | simonrvn, I have tried the stuff from the website you gave me, but still the disks are not being recognised any ideas. Or would I be looking at creating my own initrd |
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| 20:50.06 | Gijs | People, i just deleted a mysql database. but i need to get it back (and no i don't got any backups) |
| 20:51.33 | metalfoo | Then you've got a problem. |
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| 20:52.55 | tomodachi | Gijs: well |
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| 20:53.01 | tomodachi | the way i understand it |
| 20:53.03 | tomodachi | the files are still there |
| 20:53.09 | tomodachi | you have just removed the pointers to the files |
| 20:53.16 | Gijs | where are those files? |
| 20:53.26 | metalfoo | On your disk, not referenced by inodes. |
| 20:53.29 | Tekk_ | did the separation of free and nofree firmware packages make it into squeeze yet or are they still locked in sid? |
| 20:53.32 | tomodachi | they exist i believe but there is no referenceced |
| 20:53.42 | tomodachi | take your system offline |
| 20:53.46 | tomodachi | make a copy of your drive with dd |
| 20:53.51 | tomodachi | then start fiddling with the copy |
| 20:53.54 | metalfoo | But with every single second you are running your system you will lose more data |
| 20:53.56 | tomodachi | if the data is dear to you |
| 20:54.01 | tomodachi | exactly |
| 20:54.22 | metalfoo | But as you are referering to a database, changes are very bad you could recover anything useful |
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| 20:54.26 | metalfoo | chances |
| 20:55.18 | homecable | if i install debian testing will it update to the debian 6.0 |
| 20:55.24 | homecable | when its all done ? |
| 20:55.47 | homecable | or do would i have to change the apt from testing to the new one ? |
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| 20:56.25 | edgars | yo |
| 20:56.40 | metalfoo | testing is fine, until Squeeze gets released. Until then, both are equivalent |
| 20:56.55 | edgars | PERC 6, is it supported or no? :) |
| 20:57.22 | stew | Tekk_: yes they've been in squeeze for quite a while now, afaik: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=firmware |
| 20:57.24 | metalfoo | Dell's PERC? |
| 20:58.07 | homecable | when does Squeeze gets released |
| 20:58.15 | tarzeau | !wir |
| 20:58.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, wir is When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>. |
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| 20:58.25 | Tekk_ | stew: thanks, a search in synaptic for kernel didn't turn up anything (I could've sworn the packages were kernel-firmware-free and kernel-firmware-nonfree) |
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| 20:58.41 | h725 | hi, how comes that even though i have a hostname set in /etc/hostname my hostname still reports localhost.localdomain |
| 20:58.42 | edgars | metalfoo: yes, dell's |
| 20:58.59 | tarzeau | h725: /etc/hosts and resolv.conf ? |
| 20:59.03 | Gijs | so their is no way to get my db back :|? |
| 20:59.26 | tarzeau | h725: and if you just changed it now, telinit q might help. see also the hostname command |
| 20:59.48 | h725 | no I changed it before rebooting |
| 21:00.03 | tarzeau | why would you reboot? |
| 21:00.04 | h725 | in etc/hosts there is a propper line for 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:00.13 | metalfoo | edgars: I'm unsure, but I think I use PERC 6 on Lenny. Let me look up. |
| 21:00.29 | edgars | :) |
| 21:00.53 | tarzeau | h725: strange my hostname never reports localhost.localdomain |
| 21:01.02 | tarzeau | h725: i've never had trouble setting a hostname |
| 21:01.06 | metalfoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.07 | metalfoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.07 | metalfoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.07 | h725 | neither does mine usually |
| 21:01.12 | metalfoo | Yes. 6/i |
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| 21:01.49 | edgars | huh, tahnks god :D |
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| 21:02.03 | edgars | metalfoo: any problems? |
| 21:02.05 | metalfoo | But you know, Dell's PERC is just a rebranded version of several controller. 6/xxx could be something completely different. |
| 21:02.05 | h725 | In this case I'll have to keep trying :-/ |
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| 21:02.25 | metalfoo | No, everything works fine, though MegaCLI still sucks for diagnosis. |
| 21:02.44 | edgars | metalfoo: by default PERC is rebranded Adaptec, anly which model? :) |
| 21:03.04 | edgars | MegaCLI? |
| 21:03.35 | metalfoo | Yes, the RAID set-up/diagnosis tool from Dell |
| 21:03.48 | edgars | i see |
| 21:04.22 | metalfoo | edgars: As said, not for all, I think the 6/e is something completely different. |
| 21:04.41 | edgars | i will have a box with 6/i |
| 21:05.02 | metalfoo | That's fine for sure, as I'm running it. |
| 21:05.32 | edgars | i hope that it will hold a huge i/o |
| 21:05.35 | Tekk_ | what's the command for Software Sources? |
| 21:06.02 | decan | hi everybody, has anyone tested neurodebian software? |
| 21:06.04 | metalfoo | Well, honestly I move away from hardware RAID controller. |
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| 21:06.18 | decan | is there a irc channel for the project?? |
| 21:06.28 | edgars | moving to software md? :> |
| 21:06.42 | edgars | zfs? |
| 21:06.47 | metalfoo | Yes. Both. |
| 21:07.01 | metalfoo | edgars: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/perc.html to support my warning. |
| 21:07.01 | edgars | zfs is mega :) |
| 21:07.08 | metalfoo | Yeah, but Solaris not. |
| 21:07.23 | edgars | opensolaris is/was cool |
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| 21:07.27 | metalfoo | So I wait for btrs for production systems. |
| 21:08.28 | Tekk_ | when I try to make the openfwwf firmware the build fails saying that %arch isn't defined, anyone else have that problem? |
| 21:09.15 | edgars | right now in a month or two i need to make a storage |
| 21:09.26 | metalfoo | I mean the PERC controller is ok, since I've got something like 25 PowerEdges in the racks, I get one anyway, but I wouldn't buy one, if they weren't mostly for free included anyway |
| 21:09.32 | edgars | looking on zfs :) |
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| 21:09.45 | metalfoo | Look on Nexenta (Stor) |
| 21:10.03 | edgars | already playing with nexenta core :) |
| 21:10.34 | edgars | found a computer with ~1 year old installed system :D |
| 21:10.58 | h725 | tarzeau: apparently (and why am I not surprised) network-manager makes these changes. |
| 21:11.10 | h725 | and sets the hostname to localhost.localdomain |
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| 21:11.21 | metalfoo | But the license is $expensive. Kinda cheap compared to other storage systems (like Dell, Sun, EMC, ...) but still a heavy weight. |
| 21:11.25 | edgars | in plans install latest 3*1 and test in office environment |
| 21:11.53 | edgars | if i will use nexenta, then only core, free edition |
| 21:12.11 | edgars | need only ~2TB of data |
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| 21:12.25 | metalfoo | So evaluated I too. Those 3-4 clicks aren't worth 20k |
| 21:12.42 | metalfoo | You can use NexentaStor up to 12 TB for free I think |
| 21:13.02 | Greek_o_nikos | Is http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ more up to date than this channel in regard to number of RC bugs? |
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| 21:13.39 | edgars | when i installed it last year it was able to serve only 4TB in free edition |
| 21:13.58 | Gijs | so their is no way to get my db back :|? |
| 21:14.32 | edgars | if it can do 12tb it's really nice |
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| 21:14.59 | metalfoo | edgars: http://www.nexenta.com/corp/nexentastor-faq-table/81-could-you-explain-the-12tb-limit-for-community-edition |
| 21:15.27 | edgars | btw, what today is cool for starege hdd's? |
| 21:15.40 | edgars | i'm totally outdated for 4-5 years :/ |
| 21:15.51 | metalfoo | Depends on your requirements of course. |
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| 21:18.15 | edgars | well, nonstop i/o with small files :) |
| 21:18.28 | Tekk_ | hey, is the b43 firmware in the main repo openfwwf or the proprietary? |
| 21:18.47 | edgars | i will use it as nfs/iscsi share for mailserver |
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| 21:19.36 | metalfoo | The nonstop i/o is just a question of your budget. I mean you can buy Fusion IO too |
| 21:20.13 | metalfoo | (http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive/?tab=specs 120.000 iops) |
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| 21:20.56 | edgars | 120k iops, real beast! :) |
| 21:21.11 | metalfoo | The price too ... |
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| 21:21.49 | f8l | By "this channel" Greek_o_nikos meant #debian-devel-changes. |
| 21:22.03 | edgars | i supose so :D |
| 21:22.14 | edgars | how much for 320GB? |
| 21:22.20 | metalfoo | http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A3131275&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=27722&lid=628335 |
| 21:23.12 | edgars | oh my :D |
| 21:24.10 | ksx4system | is software RAID compiled into Debian for Cobalt? it boots kernel ("Booting Debian") from ext2r0 and then it freezes (both swap and / are on software RAID 0) |
| 21:24.33 | edgars | at the moment i'm looking on wd re4 |
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| 21:26.01 | Tekk_ | what's the official main repo for squeeze |
| 21:26.12 | Tekk_ | packages.debian.org/ testing? |
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| 21:26.30 | edgars | Tekk_: testing |
| 21:26.48 | Tekk_ | edgars: no I mean it's packages.debian.org right? |
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| 21:27.49 | metalfoo | edgars: I think that should be ok, together with 1-2 high quality SSD as cache or so |
| 21:27.50 | edgars | Tekk_: should be |
| 21:28.41 | edgars | yeah, looking on two 40GB intel ssd's too for that purpose :) |
| 21:28.59 | Tekk_ | >< |
| 21:29.18 | Tekk_ | anyone have a sample sources.list they can give me? I did something wrong with this one |
| 21:29.18 | metalfoo | Make sure they support TRIM though |
| 21:29.35 | jpinx-eeepc | Tekk_: try apt-spy |
| 21:29.41 | edgars | found interesting site zfsbuild.com :) |
| 21:31.11 | edgars | metalfoo: TRIM works only on windows |
| 21:31.19 | edgars | iirc |
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| 21:31.57 | edgars | ahh, it's 00:32 here, time to the bed :) |
| 21:31.58 | metalfoo | edgars: Supported as of 2.6.33 |
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| 21:32.36 | edgars | metalfoo: thanks |
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| 21:32.58 | edgars | -> ZzZzzz |
| 21:33.01 | Tekk_ | what's the terminal command for the gui software sources tool? |
| 21:33.17 | Tekk_ | it almost seems like it's segfaulting when I try to run it |
| 21:33.29 | JoshH | apt-get? |
| 21:33.37 | JoshH | who uses that gui |
| 21:33.42 | Tekk_ | JoshH: no....the command that runs software center |
| 21:33.53 | JoshH | i think it's synaptic |
| 21:33.53 | Tekk_ | JoshH: me when im feeling lazy :P |
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| 21:34.02 | Tekk_ | not software center, sources |
| 21:34.09 | edgars | Tekk_: logout ;) |
| 21:34.20 | JoshH | vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:34.20 | Tekk_ | edgars: yep ;D |
| 21:34.20 | f8l | JoshH: apt-get is not a gui. I use it. |
| 21:34.30 | Tekk_ | closer.. |
| 21:34.37 | JoshH | apt-setup |
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| 21:34.50 | JoshH | maybe that used to be it |
| 21:34.54 | Tekk_ | no, veer more into gtk.. |
| 21:35.07 | JoshH | damn man |
| 21:35.10 | JoshH | you're so particular |
| 21:35.15 | Tekk_ | yeah I know :P |
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| 21:35.42 | Tekk_ | trying to fix this from the terminal right now |
| 21:35.53 | cesurasean | I currently had dropbox working on squeeze, and now when i rebooted, or go to launch it from the application menu, nothing happens? wtf? |
| 21:35.56 | Tekk_ | but having the gui would be easier cuz then I can just say use the US server :P |
| 21:36.55 | Tekk_ | ah |
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| 21:38.27 | Tekk_ | http://dpaste.com/260371/ when I try to run the gui software sources from the command line in squeeze |
| 21:40.22 | cesurasean | Can someone explain this? - (nautilus:2717): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported |
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| 21:49.59 | mstrl | hello! i'm kind of new to debian, but i feel i should ask here instead of #mysql, my problem is that i can't access mySQL server from anywere else than localhost. |
| 21:50.41 | mstrl | mysqld is running without --skip-networking nor --bind-address |
| 21:51.18 | NiLon | is firewall allowing access? otherwise #mysql would be better to ask about confs |
| 21:51.30 | NiLon | and user rights |
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| 21:51.46 | mstrl | well, i have a tunnel between my host and the remote machine |
| 21:52.32 | mstrl | i tried adding 10.0.1.1 (my computer's ip) to hosts.allow, but it does not seems to change, |
| 21:52.44 | itchi | mstrl: You should change the bind-address variable in /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 21:53.06 | itchi | mstrl: Set bind-address = <Your IP> instead of that 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:53.14 | Tekk_ | can anyone give me a simple sources.list? Mine seems kinda botched beyond repair |
| 21:53.29 | itchi | mstrl: Then restart mysql server |
| 21:53.37 | mstrl | ah of course..... |
| 21:54.12 | mstrl | thanks itchi, i feel kind of dumb now. and i can connect to my database as well :) |
| 21:54.32 | itchi | mstrl: Your welcome :) |
| 21:55.09 | itchi | Ok, my turn now :-) Anyone know why fbdesk isn't working? It popup and then dispear ;s |
| 21:55.11 | Tekk_ | okay, can't reinstall software-properties-gtk because of my failed sources.list now -.- |
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| 21:58.40 | clamiax | hi |
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| 21:59.09 | clamiax | I'm trying to write my own SysV init script but reading the bits of documentation I found online but I can't get a clear view of the whole thing |
| 21:59.27 | clamiax | does anyone can point me to a doc which fully documents the init scripts for Debian? |
| 21:59.37 | clamiax | Thanks in advance for any help. |
| 21:59.49 | clamiax | s/but/by/ |
| 22:00.32 | clamiax | Well, I'm pretty sure I'll have more to criticize about the Debian init system after such readings. |
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| 22:08.09 | karsten-nr | In xfce4, the network manager doesn't allow editing VPN connections. Is this a perms issue, package issue, or what? Normally I'd just use vpnc and hand-edit. |
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| 22:08.39 | clamiax | I guess there are no wizards here |
| 22:08.48 | clamiax | karsten-nr: try to run it from the terminal and read what's happen. |
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| 22:09.06 | karsten-nr | clamiax: There should be a skeleton script in /etc/init.d |
| 22:09.51 | karsten-nr | clamiax: Take a look at that. /etc/init.d/README is an introduction. Debian policy gives more details. |
| 22:09.54 | clamiax | karsten-nr: yes, I see it but that doesn't explains, e.g., why start-stop-daemon doesn't create the pid file |
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| 22:10.28 | clamiax | I think I'll have to read the sources in order to investigate further. |
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| 22:12.19 | karsten-nr | clamiax: Yeah, or check in #dd on oftc. |
| 22:12.50 | karsten-nr | clamiax: probably actually #debian-devel |
| 22:13.00 | karsten-nr | clamiax: oftc is the official Debian IRC network. |
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| 22:13.39 | clamiax | mmh. It's a news. Doesn't irc.debian.org points on Freenode? |
| 22:13.51 | themill | #debian-devel is not a support channel |
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| 22:14.08 | clamiax | So it's not the channel for me ;) |
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| 22:17.05 | clamiax | Doesn't the following command should create the ls.pid file on my home directory? |
| 22:17.09 | clamiax | sudo /sbin/start-stop-daemon --start --oknodo --quiet --pidfile /home/clamiax/ls.pid --exec /bin/ls |
| 22:17.10 | clamiax | ? |
| 22:17.27 | clamiax | Could you please try it out on your box? |
| 22:17.44 | themill | clamiax: you must ask s-s-d to create the pid file if you want it to do it for you |
| 22:18.14 | clamiax | themill: what s-s-d means? |
| 22:18.28 | themill | start-stop-daemon, sorry... too lazy for our own good here. |
| 22:18.40 | clamiax | Heheh, sorry you... too lazy to understand obvious acronyms ;) |
| 22:19.07 | clamiax | btw, i thought the --pidfile flag should be enough |
| 22:19.14 | clamiax | I'd read the lighttpd init script and it does exactly that |
| 22:19.30 | themill | lighttpd (like most daemons) creates the pid file for you |
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| 22:20.02 | clamiax | themill: so the --pidfile flag from the init script is just ignored? |
| 22:20.08 | neilthereildeil | is the source code for all the packages and all the configuration for debian-live usb freely available online? |
| 22:20.10 | clamiax | ah sorry |
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| 22:20.29 | clamiax | themill: I understood. The flag just specify where the pidfile is, but doesn't tell s-s-d to create the file itself |
| 22:20.49 | clamiax | Easy. That's the problem. Thanks themill! |
| 22:21.04 | themill | yes, it's listed in the "matching" section of the manual -- i.e. how to work out what to kill when you're "stop"ping. |
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| 22:25.12 | monkey_d_luffy | I'm with a fresh squeeze KDE4 and my mouse buttons stopped working. I already unplugged/plugged but still the same. How can I restart the mouse? Anything like setxkbmap but for the mouse device? |
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| 22:27.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | monkey_d_luffy, try if you can switch between virtual desktops |
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| 22:29.10 | monkey_d_luffy | CutMeOwnThroat: no I can't, not with the mouse. I don't know the default keyboard shortcuts... I was going to configure that next. |
| 22:29.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I guess mouse focus only changes with clicks? |
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| 22:31.00 | monkey_d_luffy | CutMeOwnThroat: hovering the mouse over other icons/taskbar does nothing. This is some xorg or nouveau issue. In console mode (ctrl+alt+f2) my mouse is still working (with gpm). |
| 22:31.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, dunno what WM kde uses |
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| 22:31.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | right... it might be the same bug I hit in gnome |
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| 22:31.52 | monkey_d_luffy | did you found a workaround? :p |
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| 22:33.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | monkey_d_luffy, mine looks pretty much like ubuntu bug 362359 - I'm waiting for it to happen again, but it doesn't - here's the bugreport I wrote (and haven't sent, because I wanted to test what else recovers it and it hasn't occured anymore) http://pastebin.com/g2AbyyqC |
| 22:34.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | monkey_d_luffy, well, yes - the workaround mentioned there (for gnome) worked... just switch virtual desktop to an _empty_ one and right-click... dunno what actual happens there |
| 22:34.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | I haven't tested the others, so I cannot say if unpluggin/replugging would have worked |
| 22:35.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | the third one suggested in the U-bug was restarting the window manager, which you can do with ggnome by running "metacity --replace" from the console |
| 22:35.30 | monkey_d_luffy | unpluggin/replugging didn't work for me. I good old 'ctrl alt del' and kde logged out after 30 seconds. In kdm the mouse started working fine again. |
| 22:35.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | and one thing I noted that's not in that bug is, that the keyboard periodically failed to send keystrokes to a shell (and then it worked again for a bit, then it failed and so on) |
| 22:36.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh... pity - I hoped you could explore some more |
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| 22:36.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's clear that restarting X would do it... or well... at least I didn't doubt it much :) |
| 22:36.55 | monkey_d_luffy | CutMeOwnThroat: mmm... I kind of had that feeling with the keyboard, but I might have miss-clicked. |
| 22:37.06 | monkey_d_luffy | pity!? you want me to suffer!? :p |
| 22:37.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, I want to track that damn thing down, so I can write a proper bug report |
| 22:37.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | like now it's not much good... |
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| 22:37.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | no way to reproduce and no clue where the bug is |
| 22:38.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I had the impression in the ubuntu bug they describe at least two, maybe three separate bugs that just look similar |
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| 22:38.51 | monkey_d_luffy | CutMeOwnThroat: you have an ati driver and I have a noveau driver, so it's probably some xorg thing. what do you think? |
| 22:38.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | one was that synaptics locked up the touchpad... |
| 22:39.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's what the ubuntu bug made me think... |
| 22:39.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | before that I thought it's a problem of the WM |
| 22:39.23 | clamiax | Worked both scripts! |
| 22:39.27 | clamiax | Thanks again. |
| 22:40.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | so yes... seems an xorg thing |
| 22:40.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | no errors in Xorg.0.log or dmesg, though |
| 22:40.36 | monkey_d_luffy | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't have synaptics yet on my xorg.conf (it works out of the box). But my latop thingy didn't work as well if I tried clicking with it. |
| 22:40.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think that touchpad report is unrelated... |
| 22:41.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's a different problem that just looks similar |
| 22:41.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | you know how it often goes with ubuntu bugs... :( |
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| 22:41.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | lots of people shouting "AOL" etc... |
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| 22:42.58 | monkey_d_luffy | I didn't get that joke :'( |
| 22:43.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | "AOL" == "me, too!" |
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| 22:43.43 | monkey_d_luffy | ohh I see :) |
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| 22:45.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | this one is actually pretty good, they found stuff out! More useless chatter than one'd ideally hope for, but some genuine tips and workarounds in there... |
| 22:46.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure how one can debug that further - first thing would be to find a way to trigger it at will |
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| 22:47.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | or what would also be nice... find some way to make sure it's the same bug for you and for me under kde and with gnome/metacity |
| 22:47.35 | clamiax | byez |
| 22:47.37 | monkey_d_luffy | yeah being able to reproduce it helps a lot |
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| 22:48.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could have tried... kwin --replace from the console |
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| 22:49.28 | monkey_d_luffy | oh that one is usefull, didn't knew about it |
| 22:49.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, probably export DISPLAY=:0; kwin --replace |
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| 22:50.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | (on two lines, not with ";") |
| 22:50.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, wrong, doesn't matter |
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| 22:52.08 | xulf | Hey |
| 22:52.21 | xulf | about how many sectors are there on a typical 1 TB hard drive |
| 22:52.29 | karsten-nr | In vpnc: how do you *terminate* a VPN connection ? |
| 22:52.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | lots! |
| 22:52.47 | xulf | yeah but I cant find any even rough numbers on google |
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| 22:54.47 | tomodachi | so i want to exclude some files to copy |
| 22:55.07 | tomodachi | for example i want to copy everything but files conatining the word Test |
| 22:55.14 | karsten-nr | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm not even me any more.... |
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| 22:55.30 | karsten-nr | tomodachi: In their filename? |
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| 22:55.41 | tomodachi | ls |egrep -v Test |xargs -I {} cp {} destination |
| 22:55.45 | tomodachi | karsten-nr: yup |
| 22:55.51 | qq- | xulf, fdisk -l , as root |
| 22:55.57 | karsten-nr | tomodachi: ls -I \*Test\* |
| 22:56.02 | tomodachi | so that was my way of solving it , but seemed a bit long ,any simpler cleaner way? |
| 22:56.22 | karsten-nr | tomodachi: the 'ignore' option to ls. Confirm it works as expected. |
| 22:56.29 | tomodachi | ah nice |
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| 22:56.32 | tomodachi | ill check into it |
| 22:56.33 | karsten-nr | tomodachi: You can also use find to pattern match/exclude. |
| 22:57.00 | monkey_d_luffy | what would be the best software to keep an eye on cpu/hdd temperatures, fans, etc? I have conky on my desktop, but I'm not really in the mood (ie, spend millions of hours) to adapt my rc file. Any GUI tool? |
| 22:57.01 | karsten-nr | tomodachi: so: mv $( ls -I \*pattern\* ) newdir/ |
| 22:57.15 | karsten-nr | tomodachi: ... though if nothing matches your pattern, the 'mv' command gets unhappy. |
| 22:57.26 | tomodachi | awesome! |
| 22:57.39 | tomodachi | love the way you have multiple ways of solving the same problem! |
| 22:57.39 | tomodachi | .) |
| 22:57.40 | tomodachi | thnx |
| 22:58.03 | karsten-nr | monkey_d_luffy: I've got the system notification service apparently running on my laptop (installed 2-3 days ago so I'm still discovering what's new), and it will, eg: tell me that battery is low. |
| 22:58.16 | karsten-nr | tomodachi: There's more than one way to remove a cat's epidermis. |
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| 22:59.54 | xulf | I cant find anything about how many sectors are on a hard drive |
| 22:59.59 | xulf | on google |
| 23:00.06 | jhutchins_lt | monkey_d_luffy: There are monitor/alarm apps, there's kpowersave for battery. |
| 23:00.09 | xulf | so someone speak up pls |
| 23:00.13 | karsten-nr | xulf: Lots. |
| 23:00.20 | karsten-nr | xulf: Why do you care? |
| 23:00.26 | qq- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.30 | jhutchins_lt | xulf: Pick a manufacturer and get their product specs. |
| 23:00.32 | xulf | thx |
| 23:01.03 | monkey_d_luffy | karsten-nr: about the laptop battery I have the problem solved (kde4 has a widget for that). I'm interested in CPU freqs (to make sure the speedstep is working) and temps, as well as HDDs temps. |
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| 23:01.42 | karsten-nr | monkey_d_luffy: yeah, my point is that with the notification service, the messages show up in a dialog on the desktop. |
| 23:02.15 | karsten-nr | monkey_d_luffy: There are a number of hooks for that (and I think I know what the underlying tool is). Key is to have the right system monitoring set up. |
| 23:02.22 | somiaj | monkey_d_luffy: there are many different tools -- best to just play around with some until you find what you like. I like xosview myself, but it doens't monintor everything. |
| 23:02.29 | karsten-nr | monkey_d_luffy: ... which is a half-assed way of saying "the tools are there but I don't know them offhand" |
| 23:04.03 | craigevil | powerdevil is on kde4, probably some plasma gadget or you can just use conkly |
| 23:04.52 | jhutchins_lt | xulf: 1,953,525,168 Guaranteed sectors on a Segate 1T 7200 RPM Barracuda. |
| 23:05.24 | jhutchins_lt | Time to find that info: less than four minutes. |
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| 23:08.19 | somiaj | jhutchins_lt: why do it yourself when some random person will do it for you. |
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| 23:08.51 | phogg | people are so lazy |
| 23:08.57 | monkey_d_luffy | tried xsensors but it sucked.... bahh.... I might as well spend some time in adapting my conkyrc It's worth it. |
| 23:09.00 | phogg | I'd complain about it in more detail but I can't be bothered |
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| 23:09.32 | monkey_d_luffy | phogg "people are so lazy": wiser words have never been spoken :) |
| 23:09.49 | monkey_d_luffy | but if we were really lazy we would use windows ;) |
| 23:09.59 | phogg | Ugh, no. |
| 23:10.07 | robokop | monkey_d_luffy: NO |
| 23:10.12 | monkey_d_luffy | it just works :) |
| 23:10.13 | phogg | It's *because* I'm lazy that I can't use windows. |
| 23:10.28 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 23:10.29 | phogg | it just works hard at making things difficult and effort-consuming! |
| 23:10.33 | robokop | monkey_d_luffy: we would make all software in haskell perhaps, but not use windows |
| 23:10.40 | phogg | forth |
| 23:10.40 | streuner_ | true, only lazy users use Debian ;-) |
| 23:10.57 | phogg | streuner_: apt was made for lazy people like me |
| 23:11.04 | streuner_ | true |
| 23:11.10 | robokop | maintaining debian (or any linux distro i know off) is way easier then windows |
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| 23:11.29 | robokop | s/maintaining/administrating/ |
| 23:11.47 | monkey_d_luffy | my relation with FOSS is kind of a love-hate. I hate it, always bugs and problems, but it's still the best option... and there's lots of pretty neat stuff |
| 23:12.18 | jordanm | monkey_d_luffy: always bugs and problems in proprietaryt software too |
| 23:12.36 | phogg | just can't do anything but rage at them |
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| 23:12.48 | phogg | my blood pressure can't take using windows. I'd literally die. |
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| 23:18.42 | streuner_ | monkey_d_luffy: i have to install windows 7 in order to use a tax software, my vista doesnt function with SP1, i can tell you... |
| 23:19.05 | streuner_ | monkey_d_luffy: in Debian it wouldnt be such a problem... |
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| 23:19.55 | robokop | i once didn't have to fill in my tax forms cause i wanted the tax office to let them pay my windows license |
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| 23:20.19 | robokop | the next year they had a linux version of the tax software |
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| 23:21.08 | streuner_ | would be a good thing if a linux tax software exists, but it doesnt |
| 23:21.42 | robokop | the dutch gov always has one (each year a new one) |
| 23:21.50 | streuner_ | hm |
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| 23:22.14 | robokop | dunno about corporate though, just for individuals |
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| 23:47.45 | NickyP | how do I delete an environment variable? |
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| 23:48.37 | petemc | unset FOO |
| 23:48.48 | yagoo | if you type 'help' you should be able to list builtins |
| 23:49.00 | NickyP | ok |
| 23:49.06 | NickyP | ty |
| 23:49.14 | beardy | 'help unset' to make that clear |
| 23:49.43 | yagoo | "help test" is an asset in bash |
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| 23:53.52 | streuner_ | robokop: dude |
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| 23:54.39 | streuner_ | robokop: thats an atitude which doesnt help at all |
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