| 00:00.03 | stew | Tm0: there is no package named httpd, which httpd do you intend to use? |
| 00:00.10 | pigdude | Tm0, I don't know about the 'httpd' package. remove the apache stuff, libapache2-mod-php5 depends on apache so you will have it |
| 00:00.15 | pigdude | Tm0, it also will install php |
| 00:00.16 | stew | Tm0: do you intend php to be able to talk to mysql? |
| 00:00.21 | pigdude | Tm0, keep the php cli package |
| 00:00.31 | pigdude | Tm0, use aptitude search to look packages up |
| 00:00.47 | stew | Tm0: you want to install the 'php5-mysql' package it sounds like |
| 00:00.59 | stew | Tm0: why are you using -y ? |
| 00:01.04 | pigdude | Tm0, yes, also install php5-mysql |
| 00:01.16 | Tm0 | stew i do, and pigdude i guess i will have to do it peice by pieice i gureuess :/ I want to install apache bind mysql etc all in one. Stew thats in YUM how to always say yes. |
| 00:01.46 | stew | Tm0: "aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql bind" |
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| 00:01.59 | tolland | how do i get the mail back that was delivered to /var/mail/mail? |
| 00:02.05 | Tm0 | Thanks Stew! I'll have to save that! |
| 00:02.06 | tolland | can i rename the file to some other user |
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| 00:11.49 | ghostmask | ls |
| 00:12.03 | ghostmask | ops, wrong window :P |
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| 00:13.42 | k[t | ghostmask: ls should work as a command... |
| 00:14.16 | ghostmask | k[t, on shell yes |
| 00:15.06 | k[t | ghostmask: what does "/ls" do from your irc window? |
| 00:16.29 | ghostmask | k[t, here? nothing |
| 00:16.30 | k[t | and "/exec ls ~/" ?? (just in case you're not using something like bitchx or irssi... |
| 00:16.44 | k[t | aye caramba... o_) |
| 00:16.45 | ghostmask | k[t, I'm using xchat |
| 00:17.05 | ghostmask | k[t, do you speak portuguese? |
| 00:17.17 | k[t | nooo, why? |
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| 00:17.55 | ghostmask | k[t, 'caramba' is a portuguese word and probably in others languages too. |
| 00:18.29 | k[t | i was thinking more southern american: (Bart Simpsons if you want truth...) |
| 00:18.47 | k[t | *Simpson |
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| 00:19.21 | k[t | anywho: xchat doesn't support "/exec " ? |
| 00:20.07 | ghostmask | k[t, worked here this time |
| 00:20.12 | k[t | umm, yea it does: https://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_help_commands |
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| 00:20.39 | k[t | though you probably don't really need it from time to time... but just useful to know... |
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| 00:21.11 | k[t | anyhow, goodluck, and happy apt`n, ghostmask: goodbye. |
| 00:21.21 | CyberDomovoy | hi |
| 00:21.57 | ghostmask | k[t, bye |
| 00:23.54 | CyberDomovoy | i have a some troubles with libGL.so.1, i was using stable, now upgraded using only components from main, apt-get remove --purge fglrx-*; apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-xgl; but i still don't have /usr/lib/libGL.so.1, even i have /usr/lib/libGL.so, wich indeed is a broken symlink... any idea? |
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| 00:24.13 | CyberDomovoy | s/upgraded/upgraded to testing/ |
| 00:25.05 | k[t | CyberDomovoy: ever think about "Unstable"? |
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| 00:25.24 | CyberDomovoy | k[t> no, why would i do that? |
| 00:26.14 | k[t | not sure, just asking. i've actually started with testing... but can't get enough courage to go unstable... |
| 00:26.33 | CyberDomovoy | k[t> unstable is... unstable ^^ |
| 00:27.13 | k[t | i know... but it seems/sounds <hardcore>... |
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| 00:27.27 | Pinchiukas | Is there a way to strip a debian installation to the base essentials? |
| 00:27.52 | k[t | think of it like... hmm, package b conflicts with a: install b from source and modify a... |
| 00:27.54 | CyberDomovoy | k[t> i wouldn't go unstable unless i REALLY need to, or want to test things, not use my system to do some important work |
| 00:28.36 | k[t | CyberDomovoy: then in that case... |
| 00:28.54 | CyberDomovoy | Pinchiukas> i think i remember an option to debootstrap that does it... |
| 00:29.07 | CyberDomovoy | Pinchiukas> man debootstrap |
| 00:29.17 | debiantonio | its spanish interjection denoting surprise |
| 00:30.34 | Pinchiukas | CyberDomovoy: isn't that for a chrooted environment? |
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| 00:32.34 | CyberDomovoy | Pinchiukas> it is to install debian in a target directory if i remember well, i think the debian-installer use it, it can be chrooted after, yes. Of course if you want to use it for installing your base system... you should find some docs :) |
| 00:32.42 | Pinchiukas | I've got this virtual server with this lame set-up. I want to remove everything but stuff needed to add/remove packages and connect to it via ssh. |
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| 00:33.25 | CyberDomovoy | Pinchiukas> apt-get remove --purge *? lol |
| 00:33.28 | dougmencken | Pinchiukas: you do need kernel, coreutils, bash, ssh |
| 00:33.36 | Pinchiukas | Well yes. |
| 00:33.46 | asarch | Does anybody know to use this device: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200] |
| 00:33.48 | Pinchiukas | CyberDomovoy: what would that do? |
| 00:33.58 | CyberDomovoy | Pinchiukas> nothing good |
| 00:34.00 | asarch | Thank you guys |
| 00:34.10 | dougmencken | asarch: #radeon, airlied will love you :) |
| 00:34.11 | Pinchiukas | dougmencken: any ideas? |
| 00:34.32 | abrotman | asarch: is that a real question ? |
| 00:34.34 | asarch | Thank you very much for http://wiki.debian.org/rt2860sta |
| 00:34.34 | k[t | doug: very mean... |
| 00:34.48 | asarch | What do you mean abrotman? |
| 00:34.50 | asarch | Yes, it is |
| 00:34.55 | abrotman | it wasn't |
| 00:35.07 | abrotman | it's missing at least one word .. and at least one version of debian |
| 00:35.37 | asarch | I owe you to all of you some beers |
| 00:36.22 | stew | Pinchiukas: aptitude remove '~pextra' '~optional' ssh+ |
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| 00:37.07 | k[t | whoa.. i don'ot even know how to use apt... |
| 00:39.09 | stew | Pinchiukas: oh, that should be ~poptional, not ~optional |
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| 00:39.34 | Pinchiukas | stew: ok I'll try that. |
| 00:39.44 | stew | Pinchiukas: you can add a -s to "simulate" first |
| 00:40.11 | Pinchiukas | I don't have aptitude for some reason. :) |
| 00:40.15 | Pinchiukas | How can I get it? |
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| 00:40.54 | stew | Pinchiukas: apt-get install aptitude |
| 00:41.15 | CyberDomovoy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.19 | Pinchiukas | Ah, I needed to 'apt-get update'. :) |
| 00:43.01 | k[t | did you try proprietary? (tak caution: i believe it replaces/deletes files on (un)install) |
| 00:43.18 | k[t | take* |
| 00:43.28 | Pinchiukas | Sorry to bother you, but how do I purge the remaining config files? |
| 00:43.39 | stew | Pinchiukas: aptitude purge '~c' |
| 00:44.46 | CyberDomovoy | k[t> if i use only main in my source.list, it is because i don't want proprietary stuff ;) |
| 00:45.15 | k[t | gotcha: /-) |
| 00:45.19 | stew | judd: file usr/lib/libGL.so.1 |
| 00:45.22 | judd | usr/lib/libGL.so.1 in lenny/i386: libgl1-mesa-swx11: usr/lib/libGL.so.1; nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx: usr/lib/libGL.so.1; nvidia-glx: usr/lib/libGL.so.1; libgl1-mesa-glx: usr/lib/libGL.so.1; fglrx-glx: usr/lib/libGL.so.1 |
| 00:45.33 | Pinchiukas | stew: so now I have the absolute minimum + ssh? |
| 00:46.20 | CyberDomovoy | stew: that is why i did "apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx" but didn't help |
| 00:46.27 | stew | Pinchiukas: no, you have a base system + ssh, if you really want absolute minimum, there would be more to remove, but there should be no reason to remove stuff from the base system |
| 00:46.36 | stew | well this is "standard system" |
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| 00:48.13 | Pinchiukas | stew: cool! Thanks. This shoud be made into somekind of howto. :) |
| 00:49.01 | stew | Pinchiukas: if you really want to get down to the base system you can also remove ~pstandard |
| 00:49.37 | Nai-ux | which time server daemon is compatible with rdate tool for older unix systems? |
| 00:49.59 | pcncx | Nai-ux aren't they all? |
| 00:50.10 | pcncx | most time servers just aren't public |
| 00:50.24 | Nai-ux | ntp server will understand rdate? |
| 00:50.26 | Pinchiukas | stew: E: Couldn't find package pstandard |
| 00:50.38 | stew | Pinchiukas: '~standard' |
| 00:50.39 | stew | err |
| 00:50.42 | stew | Pinchiukas: '~[standard' |
| 00:50.43 | pcncx | Nai-ux I've never known one not to |
| 00:50.44 | stew | ugh |
| 00:50.47 | stew | Pinchiukas: '~pstandard' |
| 00:50.57 | Nai-ux | ok thx |
| 00:50.59 | stew | Pinchiukas: menaning "Priority: standard" |
| 00:51.13 | pcncx | Nai-ux thugh I've known plenty of time servers that aren't public |
| 00:51.31 | Pinchiukas | stew: none of those works. Can you test on your machine? |
| 00:51.51 | stew | Pinchiukas: "aptitude remove '~pstandard'" would work |
| 00:53.06 | k[t | !regex >k[t |
| 00:53.27 | k[t | !tell k[t regex |
| 00:53.36 | qwd | I've installed tracker and tracker-gui on Debian Squeeze. It says there's a nautilus plugin but how do I use it? |
| 00:53.41 | Pinchiukas | For some reason I was trying to use apt-get. ;) |
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| 00:54.10 | k[t | !tell k[t syntax |
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| 00:54.33 | abrotman | k[t: you can msg the bot |
| 00:54.47 | k[t | **trying** |
| 00:54.52 | Pinchiukas | stew: hey, those aren't really needed as well. I can add them on an as-needed basis, right? |
| 00:55.28 | k[t | i just fell that i'm missing some regex with apt-get .... |
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| 00:55.58 | k[t | abrotman: but the rules in regex(8) apply right, just might be limited...? |
| 00:56.30 | k[t | /regex(8)/regex(7)/ |
| 00:56.40 | stew | k[t: no, it uses globs, not regex |
| 00:57.09 | CyberDomovoy | is there a way to tell apt|dpkg to remove a package without its dependencies? |
| 00:57.23 | k[t | like bash... so it handles negations as well too... |
| 00:59.36 | dondelelcaro | CyberDomovoy: unless the dependencies were automatically installed, you can just remove the package. |
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| 01:00.45 | CyberDomovoy | dondelelcaro> apt-get remove libgl1-mesa-glx will also remove libgnome and co |
| 01:01.13 | bruteforce_allti | for checking a directory, if [ -d "$sugar-base"]; then is not working. Is it because of "-" ? |
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| 01:06.57 | stew | bruteforce_allti: that is saying "take the value in the variable named 'sugar' add the string '-base' to it, and see if such a directory exitss" |
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| 01:07.57 | hotwings | i just tried to upgrade packages in debian stable.. g++-4.4 : Depends: gcc-4.4-base (= 4.4.5-2) but 4.4.5-4 is installed <-- what the hell |
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| 01:08.40 | stew | hotwings: g++-4.4 isn't in stable |
| 01:08.45 | hotwings | so did they screw up the versions or something? |
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| 01:09.08 | hotwings | ahh yes, testing i see.. still though |
| 01:09.34 | streuner | !bobbitt |
| 01:09.35 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorena_Bobbitt]? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Lenny, Squeeze, and any other Debian system, "Debian based distro", or the fire that is <rpm>, <alien>, etc. |
| 01:09.44 | stew | hotwings: you have the gcc-4.4-base installed from unstable and are trying to install the older g++-4.4 in testing, so your gcc-4.4-base would have to be downgraded to the testing version |
| 01:09.45 | bruteforce_allti | stew: ohk. Anyway I can do this check for directory with "-" in between there name? |
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| 01:10.17 | hotwings | stew - i there no unstable entries in my apt sources.list |
| 01:10.38 | stew | hotwings: yeah |
| 01:10.40 | dondelelcaro | CyberDomovoy: that's because some packages that the gnome meata package depends on depend on libgl1-mesa-glx. Why are you trying to remove that library anyway? |
| 01:10.54 | stew | bruteforce_allti: wait, are you trying to check for a directory named literally "sugar-base"? |
| 01:11.08 | hotwings | how can i have an unstable package installed when apt doesnt even have unstable sources? |
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| 01:11.30 | bruteforce_allti | stew: yeah. :) |
| 01:11.42 | stew | hotwings: you could have previously had an unstable source, you could have installed it by downloading the package and installing it with dpkg -i |
| 01:11.53 | CyberDomovoy | dondelelcaro> i don't have /usr/lib/libGL.so.* since i removed fglrx, tried to reinstall libgl1-mesa-(dri|glx) without luck |
| 01:11.59 | stew | bruteforce_allti: then you want -d "sugar-base" not -d "$sugar-base" |
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| 01:12.29 | hotwings | no, and no. this is on my fileserver. installed from testing net-inst iso, only ever altered with apt-get update & upgrade |
| 01:12.39 | stew | hotwings: then someone else did it |
| 01:13.06 | stew | hotwings: g++-4.4-base version 4.4.5-5 has never been in testing, only in unstable |
| 01:13.12 | dondelelcaro | CyberDomovoy: how did you try to reinstall it? just aptitude reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx; should do the trick, assuming fglrx removed the diversion properly |
| 01:13.34 | CyberDomovoy | dondelelcaro> that's the point, lokks like it didn't |
| 01:13.43 | CyberDomovoy | s/lokks/looks/ |
| 01:13.57 | CyberDomovoy | dondelelcaro> can i do it for him? |
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| 01:14.25 | dondelelcaro | CyberDomovoy: then look at the output of ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.*; and see if the original files are there, then the output of dpkg-divert --list|grep GL |
| 01:14.39 | stew | hotwings: you can see the package history wrt the releases here: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gcc-4.4/news.rss20.xml it was uploaded to unstable 12 days ago, and hasn't since migrated to testing |
| 01:15.20 | CyberDomovoy | ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.* only lists libGL.so, symlink to libGL.so.1, wich don't exists, looking for dpkg-divert |
| 01:15.58 | orzo | i'm having some trouble trying to figure out whether a Atheros AR7161 is a little endian mips system or a big endian mips system. Anybody know offhand? |
| 01:16.15 | CyberDomovoy | dondelelcaro> dpkg-divert tells me fglrx-glx diverts libGL.so.1 and libGL.so.1.1 |
| 01:17.10 | cafuego | orzo: It's big endian |
| 01:17.10 | bruteforce_allti | stew: That solved my problem. Thanks :) |
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| 01:20.15 | CyberDomovoy | found the solution :) "dpkg-divert --remove /usr/lib/libGL.so.1; dpkg-divert --remove /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2; apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri;" thanks dondelelcaro |
| 01:20.46 | hotwings | its not wanting gcc-base 4.4.5-5, its showing gcc base 4.4.5-4 |
| 01:21.00 | hotwings | which does show in testing |
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| 01:22.12 | CyberDomovoy | what's the use of dpkg-divert anyway? isn't update-alternatives more than enough? |
| 01:22.22 | cafuego | no |
| 01:22.25 | tarvid | any links for debian for ubuntu users? |
| 01:22.34 | stew | hotwings: perhaps I misread, sorry, show us the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy g++-4.4 g++-4.4-base" ; use a pastebin |
| 01:22.46 | cafuego | dpkg-divert happily diverts so that you cna use non-packaged files |
| 01:23.23 | cafuego | update-alternatives only works for files that are listed as alternatives for a specific symlink in /etc/alternatives |
| 01:23.59 | CyberDomovoy | cafuego> my guess is that if you use non-packaged files, you know enough to put them where they won't conflict with any package, and use update-alternatives |
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| 01:24.42 | cafuego | CyberDomovoy: putting them elsewhere might mean needing to adjust $PATH for hundreds of users; it's simply way easier to divert the packaged file and be don with it. |
| 01:24.46 | stew | hotwings: in any case, the problem is going to be the same. you have a newer version installed of -base and you are trying to install an older version of g++-4.4 |
| 01:25.05 | hotwings | stew: http://pastebin.com/zA9v1QyA |
| 01:25.05 | stew | hotwings: and it seems that you are trying to mix testing and stable, which is something we strongly recommend against |
| 01:25.26 | cafuego | CyberDomovoy: And like I said, you'd then need to register the alternate file as alternative first anyway. |
| 01:25.37 | CyberDomovoy | cafuego> i see, but at the evidence, it leads to other problems |
| 01:25.48 | cafuego | CyberDomovoy: none that I've ever encountered |
| 01:25.55 | hotwings | im not mixing anything. my mentioning stable earlier was from the previous install of that box. i forgot when i reinstalled it, i used testing instead |
| 01:26.02 | CyberDomovoy | cafuego> you need to register the divertion too |
| 01:26.02 | stew | hotwings: sorry that should have been gcc-4.4-base, not g++4.4-base |
| 01:26.31 | cafuego | CyberDomovoy: I mean, I don't count "I forgot I had diverted that file and I can't get things to work now" as a poblem :-) |
| 01:26.37 | CyberDomovoy | cafuego> i just did, with fglrx that didn't remove its diversion when i removed the package |
| 01:26.57 | stew | hotwings: if you are trying to upgrade to squeeze from stable, see "/msg dpkg lenny->squeeze" |
| 01:27.11 | hotwings | stew: http://pastebin.com/HfhdC3gG |
| 01:27.49 | hotwings | you can ignore i ever mentioned stable. it was never used. the box'es last install was using debian testing net-inst. |
| 01:28.11 | hotwings | i simply forgot i switched it when i reformatted and reinstalled the box quite some time ago |
| 01:28.27 | stew | judd: versions gcc-4.4-base |
| 01:28.29 | judd | Package gcc-4.4-base on i386 -- squeeze: 4.4.5-4; sid: 4.4.5-6 |
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| 01:30.00 | orzo | thanks cafuego |
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| 01:31.09 | hotwings | unless im missing something, it seems that g++-4.4 wasnt updated for the newest available version of gcc-4.4-base. if thats true then it would be an error on the part of whoever maintains g++ right? |
| 01:31.18 | Nai-ux | on a system i have /etc/inetd.conf EMPTY? but on another it has 40 lines, what do i need to install to get inetd.conf |
| 01:32.22 | abrotman | what do you want to have in it ? you aren't required to have stuff in there |
| 01:32.41 | orzo | i'm trying to download "debwrt" for debian on wrt but when i wget the link, it saves it as a number rathe rthan the full file name and I dont even see md5sums to verify with |
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| 01:33.22 | kenro | Yo |
| 01:33.40 | Nai-ux | abrotman: time, for rdate(sunos), i installed openbsd-inetd but did not help |
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| 01:34.38 | abrotman | Nai-ux: right .. if you don't install those 'services' .. it won't create lines in the file |
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| 01:34.44 | kenro | Strange problem. My harddrive/device cannot be written to coz is full, but I cannot seem to find the offending files. Any suggest? |
| 01:36.19 | Nai-ux | abrotman: i see after installing ftpd it placed one line in there, how come then on my other lenny system it has daytime,time,discard ? |
| 01:37.07 | abrotman | was that system upgraded from etch ? |
| 01:37.58 | kenro | Filelight says /usr is at 100%, but I donno what I can delete... |
| 01:38.06 | Nai-ux | abrotman: hm, not that i know of, was a 5.0.5 lenny with custom kernel for a network card |
| 01:38.55 | Nai-ux | kenro: you can use the find command to see if there are any files bigger than $size |
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| 01:39.32 | kenro | Nai-ux: suggested file size? |
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| 01:41.09 | Nai-ux | kenro: 20m ?depends how large your partition is |
| 01:41.50 | Nai-ux | i guess you are looking for something unusual like a 732MB core file or something like /usr/1 which is an accidental backup of a cdrom |
| 01:41.57 | hotwings | so how come "candidate" doesnt get installed with apt-get upgrade here? http://pastebin.com/eaLcLQe4 |
| 01:42.08 | kenro | Nai-ux: 300/320gb |
| 01:42.51 | hotwings | it seems g++-4.4 is the problem child |
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| 01:50.17 | Nai-ux | kenro: it could also be a user's home directory, check /etc/passwd for homes set in /usr one might be very large, also check "crontab -l" and /etc/fstab , see if there are clues like a server mounted at /usr/badmnt/server that was unmounted and backed up to the mount point instead of server |
| 01:50.42 | qwd | Debian Squeeze. I installed tracker to be able to tag files and search for the tags. I'm not seeing any nautilus integration when it comes to searching, only tagging. I added Search Bar to my panel and I can search for the tag there, but I can't click it and see which files are tagged. Is this normal? |
| 01:52.04 | kenro | Nai-ux: /lib and /share each acount for 40% of /usr, if that narrows it... |
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| 01:55.08 | kenro | And how am i to tell from /etc/passwd how big the homes are?? |
| 01:56.30 | kenro | And there's o such thing as ../badmnt |
| 01:57.01 | Nai-ux | kenro: use find (find /usr -size +1300000) and df (df -Th) and du (du -sh target) to narrow it down. |
| 01:57.49 | Nai-ux | to read /etc/passwd do.. "cat /etc/passwd" if there was /usr/people/jack /usr/people/jim /usr/people/jan you could then do the command "du -sh /usr/people/*" to see the size of each item in /usr/people |
| 01:57.51 | Allanis | anyone had any experiance using anything like this on Debian? http://www.trust.com/products/product.aspx?artnr=15865 |
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| 01:58.07 | kenro | Nai-ux: Forgive me my outburst. Have't used hte nix in mounths. |
| 01:58.28 | kenro | du... thank you/ |
| 01:59.07 | macrobat | i'm thinking about installing kde. i don't want to revert any changes with update-alternatives. how do i keep my preferred applications? |
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| 02:11.32 | CyberDomovoy | is there any place where i can follow gallium integration status in debian? |
| 02:12.04 | abrotman | which is what? |
| 02:12.42 | CyberDomovoy | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/gallium |
| 02:13.06 | abrotman | maybe send an email to the debian-x list and see how they are doing wiht it so far |
| 02:14.38 | stew | it looks like its in experimental, i'd guess they'll upload to unstable after squeeze releases |
| 02:15.22 | stew | at least the mesa source package is mentioning it |
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| 02:33.24 | blackshirt | hello, anyone here ?? |
| 02:33.33 | abrotman | lots of people |
| 02:34.18 | nomasteryoda | all lurking |
| 02:34.21 | nsadmin | is not here. |
| 02:34.27 | nomasteryoda | lol |
| 02:34.38 | blackshirt | anybody can help me ?? |
| 02:34.41 | nsadmin | just so you know... |
| 02:34.46 | nsadmin | !sicco |
| 02:34.46 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 02:35.14 | nomasteryoda | i.e... just ask the question blackshirt |
| 02:35.14 | blackshirt | ok.. |
| 02:35.35 | nsadmin | I'mm a sicco, we're a sicco, he's a sicco, shee's a sicco... don't you want to be a sicco too? |
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| 02:36.38 | blackshirt | i have two mobile broadband gsm modem with two different provider connected to my debian system..can we use it simultaneously to connect to internet, i mean load balancing and traffic split between them.. |
| 02:37.14 | nsadmin | that takes complex routing and knowledge thereof |
| 02:37.42 | blackshirt | nsadmin: can you show the link that could help me ?? |
| 02:37.52 | nomasteryoda | well I know you can bond network devices to do something similar |
| 02:38.31 | blackshirt | anyone has a tutorial ?? |
| 02:39.34 | blackshirt | nomasteryoda: you can help me, step by step configure it ? |
| 02:39.46 | nomasteryoda | give me a minute |
| 02:39.59 | blackshirt | ok..i'm waiting for that .. |
| 02:42.09 | blackshirt | i just want a broadband connection these two walk together, if one connection is problematic, then the Internet traffic redirected to other connections |
| 02:43.29 | kenro | do I need AMD microcode patch loading support on AMD cpu? |
| 02:43.48 | blackshirt | or if one connection get slow, full.. its balanced to another connection.. |
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| 02:44.13 | blackshirt | anyone could help me ?? |
| 02:44.27 | stew | blackshirt: start with /msg dpkg split access |
| 02:44.35 | stew | blackshirt: once that is working, keep reading more at lartc.org |
| 02:45.27 | blackshirt | stew: thanks..i would follow that.. |
| 02:45.47 | kenro | Was that such a o-braier? |
| 02:45.56 | kenro | Was that such a no-brainer? |
| 02:46.26 | kenro | Not you, blackshirt |
| 02:46.58 | nsadmin | o-brian? |
| 02:47.06 | blackshirt | stew: can we apply it to dial up ppp connection ?? i no have ethernet connection, but mobile broadband connection .. |
| 02:47.22 | stew | blackshirt: yes |
| 02:48.06 | nsadmin | blackshirt, try to get that working first... probably your next few questions should be around what you read about split access |
| 02:48.10 | blackshirt | stow: how?? i get ip dinamically from provider for my ppp interfaces |
| 02:48.35 | blackshirt | nsadmin: ok, i will try that .. :) |
| 02:48.58 | kenro | nsadmin: Well, my n key is sticky. I re-posted the correct. |
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| 02:51.57 | blackshirt | stew: I still do not really understand it, if anyone can guide me ? |
| 02:52.10 | blackshirt | i'm very noob |
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| 02:56.50 | kenro | Bah. I -hate- linear kernel config. I'll deal with this later. Otay luv ya! b'bye! |
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| 02:59.37 | blackshirt | kenro: |
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| 03:00.58 | tharkun | A permanent red light on a scsi disk will does not mean good news. Right? |
| 03:01.14 | abrotman | tharkun: depends on the system it's plugged into |
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| 03:01.53 | tharkun | some proliant server. I'll fetch the key to get the exac model |
| 03:02.33 | abrotman | it's probably a failed drive |
| 03:03.32 | tharkun | abrotman: bingo it is indeed a failed drive |
| 03:03.53 | tharkun | Should the server report something on the logs? |
| 03:04.08 | blackshirt | hello... |
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| 03:04.41 | abrotman | tharkun: only if you have some tools installed that can read the SCSI controller BIOS and see a failed drive |
| 03:05.04 | tharkun | abrotman: i was about to rephrase asking for the program that does that ;P |
| 03:05.17 | abrotman | depends on the controller in question |
| 03:05.27 | nomasteryoda | blackshirt, did you look through this link? http://www.howtoforge.com/nic_bonding |
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| 03:08.39 | tharkun | abrotman: ther raid controler or some ide interface would be responsable for the info i am looking for? |
| 03:08.56 | tharkun | , pciid 8086:25a2 |
| 03:08.57 | judd | [8086:25a2] is '6300ESB PATA Storage Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'piix' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:25a2 |
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| 03:09.05 | abrotman | tharkun: is that even real raid? |
| 03:09.09 | blackshirt | nomasteryoda: ok thanks.. |
| 03:09.14 | abrotman | that's not even scsi |
| 03:09.21 | stew | blackshirt: that won't help you at all |
| 03:09.29 | tharkun | , pciid 0e11:0046 |
| 03:09.29 | judd | [0e11:0046] is 'Smart Array 64xx' from 'Compaq Computer Corporation' with kernel module 'cciss' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0e11:0046 |
| 03:09.30 | nomasteryoda | oh well |
| 03:09.37 | stew | blackshirt: that's if you have two nics connected to the same upstream |
| 03:10.16 | abrotman | judd: info cciss-vol-status --release squeeze |
| 03:10.17 | judd | Package cciss-vol-status (admin, extra) in squeeze/i386: HP SmartArray RAID Volume Status Checker. Version: 1.06-1; Size: 19.4k; Installed: 88k; Homepage: http://cciss.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:10.41 | blackshirt | stew: you have a better clue ?? |
| 03:10.47 | stew | blackshirt: yes |
| 03:10.56 | stew | blackshirt: wait, better than the ones at lartc.org? |
| 03:11.05 | blackshirt | stew: where ?? |
| 03:11.12 | blackshirt | i'm waiting |
| 03:11.14 | stew | ? |
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| 03:11.38 | stew | blackshirt: did you read the stuff on split access from the bot? |
| 03:11.48 | stew | dpkg: tell blackshirt about split access |
| 03:12.35 | blackshirt | yes, i have read it, but i can't understand it completely, i'm so nooby |
| 03:13.46 | stew | blackshirt: ask a more specific quesiton then |
| 03:13.51 | blackshirt | ok thanks stew..would you guide me ?? |
| 03:13.55 | tharkun | blackshirt: then read it again until you understand it. Please don't ask to be spoon fed |
| 03:14.21 | stew | blackshirt: ok |
| 03:14.28 | blackshirt | ok stew, i will try it again |
| 03:14.33 | blackshirt | thanks all |
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| 03:15.56 | sort_-R | I need an easy to use css frontend particularly for easy colors & pictures management. Suggestions ? |
| 03:16.15 | dissidentss | I have something appending to a file... how can I make it so that instantly (and atomically) the file is truncated and its contents are in another file? |
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| 03:18.28 | KB1JWQ | dissidentss: Take a look at how logrotate does it. |
| 03:18.55 | tharkun | dissidentss: #bash can be of some help also |
| 03:19.49 | dissidentss | ehh |
| 03:19.55 | dissidentss | ok |
| 03:19.56 | dissidentss | thanks |
| 03:21.40 | stew | dissidentss: you need a way to tell the something appending to the file to reopen the file, some programs will do this when sent a HUP signal |
| 03:21.56 | blackshirt | stew: based http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=22197&forum=40, this may not be possible when both connections share the same Mask & P-T-P..any clue ?? |
| 03:21.58 | stew | dissidentss: if there is no way to tell the program to reopen the file (after you have moved it). you'll have to restart the process |
| 03:22.09 | dissidentss | dammit :( |
| 03:23.44 | Nai-ux | how can i get ntp to force an update? if i try with ntpdate it says "no servers can be used, exiting" also ntp has to be killed before ntpdate will run |
| 03:23.49 | stew | blackshirt: i don't know for sure, but that does sound like trouble |
| 03:24.53 | stew | Nai-ux: ntp is always updating, just make sure you are starting it with -g (look in /etc/default/ntp) |
| 03:25.09 | stew | Nai-ux: ntpdate is deprecated and unmaintained |
| 03:25.21 | Nai-ux | NTPD_OPTS='-g' |
| 03:25.37 | stew | Nai-ux: so to force an update, just make sure it is running |
| 03:26.04 | Nai-ux | stew: it is running, and it is running after reboot, the time does not update |
| 03:26.12 | Nai-ux | perhaps the timezone is wrong? |
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| 03:26.41 | blackshirt | stew: do you no have experience for that case ?? |
| 03:26.58 | stew | blackshirt: no |
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| 03:30.40 | stew | Nai-ux: what does "date -u" return for you? |
| 03:32.09 | Nai-ux | stew: on a ntp working system 03:31 , on the LAN system without ntp working 09:37 , on the DMZ system without ntp working 03:15 |
| 03:32.45 | Nai-ux | s/ 09:37/ 13:37 |
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| 03:52.45 | STF | anyone here who can help me direct conect hubs? |
| 03:53.08 | blackshirt | STF: what you mean with direct connect hubs ?? |
| 03:54.07 | STF | blackshirt: direct connect hubs, are the so called central server of i sharing network, who is using the direct connect protocol |
| 03:54.34 | STF | sry for my bad english |
| 03:56.21 | blackshirt | it's no a matter..my english bad too :) |
| 03:56.30 | yagoo | i talk i talk! |
| 03:56.30 | STF | oky |
| 03:56.56 | yagoo | STF, btw you're one letter short from a very offensive name "u" :p |
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| 03:58.08 | blackshirt | STF: it's like switch hubs ??just connect it |
| 03:58.26 | STF | blackshirt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Connect_%28file_sharing%29#YHub |
| 04:00.41 | blackshirt | ok..i have read it.. |
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| 04:03.47 | ZeuZ | I know this isn't exactly debian-specific, but how can I prevent a KVM guest from spawning different process? Only run 1 process, is what I need |
| 04:04.18 | karlpinc | ZeuZ: Start it in single user mode? (/msg dpkg runlevels for more info) |
| 04:04.39 | karlpinc | ZeuZ: You will usually need to tell the kernel to run your process instead of init. |
| 04:04.56 | ZeuZ | karlpinc, the guest is running windows, has no single user mode, and I wouldn't be able to do that since then the whole point of the system is screwed. |
| 04:05.05 | ZeuZ | karlpinc, I've got no problem for it starting at a random PID |
| 04:05.27 | ZeuZ | karlpinc, the problem arises when a program that calculates a "HWID", get's that thread spawned in another process |
| 04:05.48 | ZeuZ | I've tried taskset and -smp 1,cores=1,threads=1,maxcpus=1 but it'll still do that |
| 04:07.44 | karlpinc | ZeuZ: Ditch MS Windows and use wine to run your process? ;-) Sorry, I'm kvm clueless. |
| 04:08.12 | karlpinc | ZeuZ: Out of curiosity, why do you care |
| 04:08.30 | ZeuZ | Because in order to run the application, it'll check the HWID |
| 04:08.51 | ZeuZ | Running wine with it it's kinda complicated, allready tried, it'll crash and even sometimes drag the whole X system down |
| 04:09.04 | ZeuZ | The problem is related to that, though, I've allready checked that |
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| 04:30.10 | Nai-ux | may i get some help with ntp and correct time, i have timezone set correctly but time is off... |
| 04:30.16 | cybercobra | how do I reinstall a package so it intentionally clobbers/resets existing config files? |
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| 04:30.39 | Nai-ux | cybercobra: did you try something like dpkg-reconfigure <packagename> ? |
| 04:30.46 | Dewi | Nai-ux: how far off? |
| 04:30.58 | Dewi | Nai-ux: if it's more than 15 minutes ntp won't attempt to fix it |
| 04:31.01 | blackshirt | cybercobra: you have purging it firstly..maybe |
| 04:31.05 | nvz | cybercobra: or --purge it then reinstall |
| 04:31.24 | nvz | ntpdate will fix it no matter what |
| 04:31.26 | Nai-ux | Dewi: i thought we established that -g was in /etc/default/ntp which is option to ignore major diff ? |
| 04:31.36 | blackshirt | hello Dewi..?? your name sound familiar .. :) |
| 04:31.51 | cybercobra | nvz: thanks |
| 04:31.54 | Dewi | Nai-ux: sorry, I dunno. But ntpdate is designed to do any big changes that are necessary |
| 04:32.17 | Nai-ux | nvz: ntpdate does not work unless i kill ntp, and even then ntpdate says "no servers can be used, exiting" |
| 04:33.13 | stew | Nai-ux: does "ntpq -p" list servers? |
| 04:33.37 | stew | Nai-ux: and yes, -g means it will fix a large difference |
| 04:34.17 | stew | !ntpdate |
| 04:34.17 | dpkg | ntpdate is an obsolete and unmaintained program to set a system clock via <NTP>. Just install the ntp package instead. Since Lenny, ntp's default configuration files (NTPD_OPTS='-g' in /etc/default/ntp, 'iburst' option for default servers in /etc/ntp.conf) make ntpdate unnecessary. See also <why not ntpdate>. |
| 04:34.47 | Nai-ux | stew: on the VM box i get a timeout when trying 'ntpq -p' , on a DMZ box I get a list of 4 systems |
| 04:35.29 | Nai-ux | both are not working with lenny ntp |
| 04:36.08 | stew | Nai-ux: check that you can ping the servers listed in ntp.conf |
| 04:36.53 | Nai-ux | yes |
| 04:38.10 | Dewi | ok thx stew |
| 04:38.13 | Dewi | didn't know that |
| 04:38.36 | Dewi | Nai-ux: tail the logs? |
| 04:38.54 | stew | Nai-ux: next I'd start to question if port 123 udp/tcp are both allowed by your firewall |
| 04:39.16 | blackshirt | Dewi: ??? |
| 04:39.36 | Dewi | blackshirt: oh sry |
| 04:39.49 | Dewi | blackshirt: I don't know why my name is familiar. I've been here for a while tho |
| 04:40.07 | blackshirt | where do you come from ?? |
| 04:40.10 | Dewi | australia |
| 04:40.24 | Dewi | not .id |
| 04:40.24 | Nai-ux | logs look ok, should i be able to "telnet 0.debian.pool.ntp.org 123" ? can someone try that from their end |
| 04:40.29 | Dewi | :) |
| 04:41.07 | blackshirt | ok..i guest you come from id.. hehe..but come from id's neighbour .. |
| 04:41.17 | Dewi | Nai-ux: nope, it must be listtening on UDP not TCP |
| 04:41.33 | Nai-ux | Dewi: that is what i thought |
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| 04:42.28 | blackshirt | Dewi: can you help me ?? |
| 04:44.17 | Nai-ux | Dewi: when i do "nc -v -u 0.debian.pool.ntp.org 123" it finishes with "...123 (ntp) open" does yours get any further? |
| 04:44.59 | Dewi | Nai-ux: UDP doesn't have a concept of "connection" via a standard handshake like TCP, so nc isn't useful |
| 04:45.44 | Dewi | Nai-ux: are you behind a bad NAT? |
| 04:45.57 | Dewi | Nai-ux: UDP used to be pretty notorious behind a NAT |
| 04:46.22 | Nai-ux | getting firewall guy to let me SSH out so i can test myself |
| 04:46.46 | yagoo | bye and be nice :) |
| 04:46.53 | Dewi | blackshirt: I don't know anything about load balancing between interfaces, sorry |
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| 04:47.22 | blackshirt | ok Dewi..maybe you can help me :) |
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| 04:51.17 | Nai-ux | Dewi: i am behind some sort of firewall but it looks like other systems can do ntp to the net alright |
| 04:53.55 | Dewi | Nai-ux: it depends on your firewall whether UDP is possible at all; maybe try to find a pool of TCP NTP nodes? |
| 04:54.01 | ZeuZ | Any idea on how to prevent KVM from running more than one process for one KVM guest? I've tried -singlestep (seems to help, but in reality doesn't) and just in case, to taskset it to a certain virtual core of the processor combined with -smp 1,cores=1,threads=1,maxcpus=1. |
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| 04:58.15 | Nai-ux | Dewi: i have an rpm-based system that is syncing fine, |
| 04:59.22 | DrCherry | I don't have a lot of experience with debian audio but what would be a good strategy to both record an audio input and stream it at the same time. It seems like I can do either/or but not both. |
| 05:04.33 | Nai-ux | Dewi: does ntp work off mainly (1)timezone and (2)ntpserver ? or does it work off hardware clock, hardware clock may be wrong |
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| 05:05.09 | nsadmin | it can do both |
| 05:05.42 | nsadmin | but the hardware clock I'm talking about is either a radio listening to WWV or an atomic clock |
| 05:05.49 | Dewi | Nai-ux: it works by adjusting hardware clock until it drifts in sync |
| 05:06.05 | DrCherry | is checking in the alsa channel, sorry to bother |
| 05:06.09 | Dewi | Nai-ux: but there's so many clocks in PCs that it can be confusing |
| 05:07.04 | Nai-ux | Dewi: put a different server in the config, no change after reboot even. |
| 05:07.35 | Nai-ux | i do see this in var log messages .. ".. kernel: [ 17.83221] warning: `ntpd' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use) |
| 05:08.57 | Nai-ux | in syslog there is "listening on interface #0",2,3,4,5(eth0) and kernel time sync status 0040 |
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| 05:17.54 | Nai-ux | there is one error but its not ntp, its ntpdate(deprecated) [1710]: no server suitable for synchronization found" which shows just before the other ntpd messages |
| 05:18.52 | Nai-ux | is what i was getting when trying to do ntpdate with ntpd turned off. even with -t 4 -p 4 (increasing timeout values) I was getting same message |
| 05:22.06 | ZinovaS | can I make RAID1 from SATA and IDE drive? |
| 05:22.56 | ZinovaS | what should I do about "Warning: partition 1 does not end at a cylinder boundary" error? |
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| 05:36.37 | karsten-nr | How would I disable kerberose credential checks in SSH connections? |
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| 05:36.41 | karsten-nr | Credentials cache file '/tmp/krb5cc_1000' not found |
| 05:36.49 | karsten-nr | ... shows up twice when running 'ssh -v'. |
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| 06:18.09 | Obligatory | Is there a master list somewhere of kernel modules with descriptions of what they do? 'modinfo' isn't providing enough info in some cases. |
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| 06:22.05 | Obligatory | Alternatives to 'modinfo', anybody? |
| 06:23.03 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: the kernel config file is among your best bets. |
| 06:23.09 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: Download kernel sources. |
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| 06:23.36 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: And the Documentation/ subdir |
| 06:24.04 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: What specifically are you looking for? You want to know what a given module does, or you want to find a module for something specific? |
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| 06:24.48 | Obligatory | karsten-nr, tnx. Kernel sources are too big on my dialup, I just want a paragraph, not a regular bandwidth hog. Right now I'm curious what 'ac97_bus' does. |
| 06:25.05 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: You can browse the kernel tree online at http://www.kernel.org/ |
| 06:25.29 | n0rb33r7 | Hello! I have 1 question. I have a Debian 5.0 x64 server with XEN virtualization. I installed openvpn access server, and it works pretty well, but when I am connected to VPN with my laptop (I use ubuntu), my brother can’t access my laptop through ssh (I use different ssh port not 22), how can I enable my ssh port through iptables, so when I am connected to the VPN, my bro can access my laptop? |
| 06:25.41 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: ac96_bus is going to be part of the sound subsystem, I think off the top of my head... |
| 06:26.26 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: Um. Where are you finding that? |
| 06:27.40 | Obligatory | karsten-nr, /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/sound/ac97_bus.ko |
| 06:28.06 | Obligatory | checking that kernel http site... |
| 06:28.52 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: Yeah, IIRC ac97 is part of the soundblaster card support. |
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| 06:29.42 | Nai-ux | n0rb33r7: bro can specify port that ssh is running on? "ssh -l usern HostName -p 4112" or in Putty under the port field |
| 06:30.06 | n0rb33r7 | ah |
| 06:30.10 | n0rb33r7 | I can use ssh |
| 06:30.14 | n0rb33r7 | but I have problem with iptables config :) |
| 06:30.20 | n0rb33r7 | I don't know, how to enable the port on iptables |
| 06:30.28 | n0rb33r7 | btw. my bro want to use putty |
| 06:30.40 | Nai-ux | you don't need to mess with iptables, once you are on VPN the box is essentially placed on the target network |
| 06:30.52 | Nai-ux | he can type in your ipaddress into putty then, and specify your non-standard ssh port |
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| 06:31.53 | n0rb33r7 | I see |
| 06:31.55 | Obligatory | karsten-nr, tnx again, that helps. Still it'd be nice to have something better than 'modinfo' which offers too little on 'ac97_bus'. Still checking that site, maybe a front-end can be abstracted... |
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| 06:33.26 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: Sec. |
| 06:33.49 | Nai-ux | n0rb33r7: if your system was 192.168.1.144 and ssh port was 4144; you may also be able to get iptables to redirect 192.168.1.144:4144 -> 127.0.0.1:22 |
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| 06:34.00 | n0rb33r7 | well |
| 06:34.05 | n0rb33r7 | I am in Hungary |
| 06:34.12 | n0rb33r7 | and my VPS server in Germany |
| 06:34.19 | n0rb33r7 | and my brother is not connected to the VPN |
| 06:34.28 | n0rb33r7 | and my bro doesn't live with me |
| 06:34.30 | n0rb33r7 | he lives 180 km away |
| 06:34.31 | n0rb33r7 | :D |
| 06:34.59 | n0rb33r7 | how can I redirect stuff with iptables? |
| 06:35.12 | n0rb33r7 | I will be honest, I really don't know how to use iptables |
| 06:35.28 | n0rb33r7 | I can install programs, I can delete programs, but I have never used iptables |
| 06:35.42 | Nai-ux | n0rb33r7: i suggest you use search engine for "iptables documentation" and "iptables tutorial" or even "iptables NAT" |
| 06:36.27 | n0rb33r7 | I see |
| 06:36.36 | dondelelcaro | or you can just use stunnel |
| 06:37.16 | Obligatory | We have man pages for virtually every command, yet none for modules. Odd. |
| 06:37.39 | Obligatory | s/modules/kernel modules/ |
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| 06:39.10 | n0rb33r7 | well I think I'll download some iptables book, and I'll read it |
| 06:39.14 | n0rb33r7 | thanks for the help guys! |
| 06:39.16 | n0rb33r7 | bye! have a nice day! |
| 06:39.44 | Nai-ux | damn, i sleep with my laptop just once and it looks a year old |
| 06:39.53 | Nai-ux | n0rb33r7: welcome, byes |
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| 06:47.01 | Obligatory | karsten-nr, I find that "links 'http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6.32.y.git;a=blob;f=sound/ac97_bus.c'" will open up the source code, but how to abstract that... |
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| 06:50.19 | karsten-nr | Obligatory: I've checked under my local kernel sources, and there's some general discussion. With modprobe, most kernel deps are pretty much automagickally sorted. Unless you've got a particular reason to worry about this, there are better ways to spend your time. |
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| 06:55.31 | f00li5h | does anyone have any kind of idea why debian woudl have $_ENV turned off, in php CLI mode? |
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| 06:56.14 | Obligatory | karsten-nr, tnx. But you're personalizing, & I'm generalizing. It's not merely an answer for one guy, it's a util for everybody that's needed. Capiche? |
| 06:56.34 | Obligatory | Anyway I've made some headway, more in a second... |
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| 07:12.58 | Obligatory | ...make that a few minutes. |
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| 07:16.46 | k[t | java f'n hates me... |
| 07:17.31 | k[t | well i'm still using X server 1.5.1 but with mixed libs, so-- that could be why.. |
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| 07:25.40 | Obligatory | karsten-nr, drat, I've a util that works for that one sound module, but haven't yet scoped the URL syntax adequately. Ah well, it's a start. |
| 07:26.29 | vovkav | hi! if i make a 'dump' of a mounted live '/', 'restore' the result on some other disk, do some magic with grub will I get a working system? |
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| 07:34.22 | Obligatory | karsten-nr, http://pastebin.com/FTeVEABW is a script that works for 'ac97_bus', 'links' is probably not the right HTML>text tool, as it needs to fetch the whole file. |
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| 07:35.20 | Obligatory | vovkav, depends on what the 'dump' command is. |
| 07:35.41 | Obligatory | vovkav, what is your 'dump' command anyway? |
| 07:36.03 | vovkav | Obligatory: classic dump, that is from BSD |
| 07:36.31 | Obligatory | vovkav, I don't have that one. Which debian package has it? |
| 07:36.54 | vovkav | Obligatory: "dump" ;) |
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| 07:39.44 | Obligatory | vovkav, aha, just checked the package description and it's as you say. Never used it. I know a disk partition or device 'dump' works with 'copy' or 'dd' or most any archiver, so all other things being equal, dump ought to be good for a filesystem partition job. In theory (sans experience). |
| 07:41.04 | vovkav | Obligatory: i've always used partimage, but it refuses working on mounted fs, then i stumbled upon dump ;) |
| 07:42.29 | Obligatory | vovkav, 'dump' does look more like a tailored special purpose incremental backup program (e.g. 'bacula' et al.) rather than what one thinks of as a 'dump'. |
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| 07:44.11 | vovkav | Obligatory: I am wondering, why it is not in a wide use |
| 07:44.52 | vovkav | Obligatory: I don't think it a bacula-level tool, as it is ext2/3-specific |
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| 07:47.41 | Obligatory | vovkav, not in wide use isn't necessarily bad, plenty of underused good programs out there, & overused bad ones. |
| 07:47.50 | timido | hey can someone help me with this error I'm having |
| 07:47.52 | timido | Oct 31 03:08:57 darkplanet udevd[409]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please use ATTR{}= to match the event device, or ATTRS{}= to match a parent device, in /etc/udev/ru$ |
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| 07:49.21 | Xinux | Pie |
| 07:49.24 | Obligatory | timido, it's some udev boot-time thingee. Is it one of own your files that's doing it, or some package's files? |
| 07:51.04 | timido | is the udev at boot is giving me that error udev[409]: SYSFS{}= in my tty1 terminal and is getting annoying and is taking my laptop to boot like 2 min |
| 07:51.13 | timido | cause of the error with the rules |
| 07:51.19 | timido | i'll paste bin the error |
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| 07:52.19 | timido | here it is http://pastebin.ca/1979394 |
| 07:52.37 | Obligatory | timido, there's a directory '/etc/udev/rules.d' with lotsa files with code like that. A somewhat obscure intro: http://wiki.debian.org/udev |
| 07:53.29 | blackshirt | hello all |
| 07:54.44 | timido | Obligatory, hmmm can you help me a little more with those syntax errors of the rules. is that a bug. that has not been reported it? |
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| 07:55.31 | Obligatory | timido, this bug report seems related: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565126 |
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| 07:55.50 | timido | thank you |
| 07:55.53 | timido | i'll read about it |
| 07:57.23 | Obligatory | timido, the last message (#30) offers a plausible kludge. |
| 07:57.39 | timido | i bet, |
| 07:57.43 | timido | what if i deleted the rules? |
| 07:57.49 | timido | I'll make an even bug? |
| 07:57.50 | timido | lol |
| 07:58.17 | Obligatory | timido, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565126#30 |
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| 07:59.17 | Obligatory | timido, probably a good idea to shut down X first... |
| 07:59.28 | timido | oh ok |
| 07:59.31 | timido | that's cool |
| 07:59.33 | timido | let me changed |
| 07:59.37 | timido | and kill x |
| 07:59.39 | timido | thank you Obligatory |
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| 08:17.22 | TiMiDo | the other question was. how can i dim my screen battery mode. for example so i can save on the battery |
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| 08:47.45 | dxrt | Is it normal that I need to type /usr/sbin/command for most commands, such as shutdown, useradd etc? seems a bit odd |
| 08:48.08 | bolt-work | dxrt: as root? |
| 08:48.57 | nsadmin | dxrt: you should do that in scripts, because if you don't, you risk running a script that's in a different place based on PATH var |
| 08:49.35 | nsadmin | depending on $PATH is very unsafe as root |
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| 08:50.25 | dxrt | Ah right, I was trying those commands as a normal user, I understand now though, thanks. |
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| 08:50.40 | nsadmin | the way the shell works, |
| 08:50.51 | nsadmin | it breaks the command line down into words |
| 08:50.54 | bolt-work | dxrt: normal users don't have sbin in their path by default |
| 08:50.59 | nsadmin | the first word would be the command |
| 08:51.43 | nsadmin | if it's found to contain the dir separator (in unix/linux that's /), $PATH is not used |
| 08:52.56 | dxrt | Got it. |
| 08:53.02 | nsadmin | and that first word is expected to specify exactly which binary and where it is |
| 08:54.03 | dxrt | But if your on an admin account/using sudo that doesn't apply? |
| 08:55.01 | nsadmin | well first off I think there are at least two things we're talking about, one is how the shell works, and that applies at all times |
| 08:55.21 | bolt-work | dxrt: sudo is unsafe. but it uses root's path from his bashrc, i think |
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| 08:55.23 | nsadmin | if the first word has /, $PATH is not used |
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| 08:58.01 | dxrt | bolt-work: Yeah, I'm not running the command in a script, its just straight into the command line. |
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| 08:59.05 | nsadmin | if no one but you uses your machine, you're safer from executables in unexpected dirs |
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| 09:04.21 | amgarching | disaster scenario: software raid5 of three disks reports on foulty disk. I am hot-swapping one disk while system is running just to find out it was the wrong one. Now two of the disks are marked failed. Time to get backups? Or is there any way to recover? |
| 09:05.15 | nsadmin | first, you have backups? |
| 09:06.47 | amgarching | yes I do. But this is the chance you dont get often. |
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| 09:11.18 | EvaLuaTe | hello |
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| 09:13.33 | EvaLuaTe | are there any estimations on when 2.6.33+ kernel will be available for debian? |
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| 09:15.59 | bolt-work | !wir |
| 09:15.59 | dpkg | it has been said that wir is When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>. |
| 09:16.05 | bolt-work | as always |
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| 09:22.04 | EvaLuaTe | bolt, was just curios :P I would like to test out debian testing as a rolling release (I'm sick and tired of having to upgrade ubuntu every 6 months and there's always something that breaks). But I would need the TRIM facilities that are included in the 33+ kernels... |
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| 09:26.29 | themill | EvaLuaTe: "/msg judd kernels"; you'll find one in experimental already, but /msg dpkg experimental. |
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| 09:35.28 | EvaLuaTe | themill, yes, I've seen that. I have one more question though, and sorry if it's a dumb one as I'm very new to the debian concepts (stable/testing/unstable). Is it possible to use just the kernel from unstable and the rest of the packages from the stable repository? |
| 09:35.46 | EvaLuaTe | s/stable/testing/ |
| 09:36.38 | nsadmin | (testing/testing/unstable)? |
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| 09:37.50 | EvaLuaTe | nsadmin, no, I meant if I can use the kernel from the unstable repository and the rest of the packages from the testing repository... |
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| 09:38.30 | nsadmin | well it's likely that doing so will pull in other dependencies |
| 09:38.52 | peterrooney | EvaLuaTe: you might be able to, but mixing unstable and stable is unadvised for those new to debian. try dbo |
| 09:38.55 | peterrooney | !dbo |
| 09:39.12 | peterrooney | whoops |
| 09:39.23 | themill | EvaLuaTe: you'd be talking about mixing squeeze and experimental here for the kernel and yes, that is quite possible. (in general, you shouldn't mix releases, but with kernels it's a bit more feasible) |
| 09:39.33 | nsadmin | , kernels |
| 09:39.34 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.36-trunk-686 (2.6.36-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-27); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-26); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-26~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-25lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 09:39.36 | peterrooney | s/try dbo/ try bpo / |
| 09:39.40 | peterrooney | !bpo |
| 09:39.41 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 09:40.35 | nsadmin | why do you want .36? |
| 09:41.03 | EvaLuaTe | nsadmin, I said it earlier. I need a kernel later than 2.6.33, because of the TRIM support (for SSD drives) |
| 09:42.11 | EvaLuaTe | nsadmin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM#Operating_system_and_SSD_support |
| 09:43.53 | EvaLuaTe | ok then, thanks everyone for the help. I'll try and see if I can figure this out. |
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| 10:14.19 | nsadmin | he's timed out anyway :) |
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| 10:24.33 | ribasushi | is there something like sshfs but *without* the encryption overhead? |
| 10:24.43 | ribasushi | ssh doesn't see to have a switch for no session cipher :( |
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| 10:26.38 | armetiz | Hi there |
| 10:26.43 | pmsz | ssh without encryption? :) |
| 10:26.44 | armetiz | I have a problem using SNMP |
| 10:27.00 | ribasushi | pmsz: yeah why not - auth only and then a clear text session |
| 10:27.11 | armetiz | Everything work fine, but the ifOutOctets value doesn't change for interface that refer to a VLAN |
| 10:27.17 | armetiz | do you know ? |
| 10:27.19 | ribasushi | pmsz: but that's beyond the point - I want something like sshfs, small and simple, not nfs-mosntrosity |
| 10:27.29 | nsadmin | ribasushi: why do you need that? |
| 10:27.45 | ribasushi | nsadmin: mounts over fast vpn-ed links |
| 10:27.55 | ribasushi | the ssh is only an overhead (a significant one at that) |
| 10:28.00 | pmsz | some earlier versions of nfs used to be much less complex and cluttered, as I recall |
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| 10:28.13 | pmsz | besides symmetric encryption in ssh shouldn't be that bad |
| 10:28.46 | ribasushi | pmsz: right, run ~50mb/s through that and see the result |
| 10:28.47 | pmsz | udp-based nfs should produce much less overhead in comparison with full-session protocols |
| 10:29.28 | ribasushi | well, I'm also after full integrity - does udp-based hold up if the links go to shit? |
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| 10:30.41 | pmsz | acknowledge-stuff should depend on the implementation... but just out of curiosity... why are you looking for an sshfs without encryption? |
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| 10:32.45 | pmsz | ahh, if it's a vpn, why not use smb or nfs instead? sshfs without encryption seems like an oxymoron at first glance to me |
| 10:33.32 | blackshirt | hello |
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| 10:35.14 | HerrBlume | hello, is it possible to upgrade one package to squeeze or sid whitout messing up the hole system? |
| 10:35.35 | pmsz | both newer and earlier versions of nfs should be fast and/or fully capable of making transmissions reliable (either tcp or udp [+ implementation ack])... and configuration never appeared extremely complicated to me - neither nfs3 or nfs4 - quite the opposite |
| 10:35.48 | joltcan | HerrBlume: It's all about the dependencies |
| 10:35.49 | nsadmin | HerrBlume: which package |
| 10:35.57 | HerrBlume | openssl |
| 10:36.06 | nsadmin | , depends openssl |
| 10:36.08 | judd | Package openssl -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8f-5), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4). |
| 10:36.13 | nsadmin | no |
| 10:36.35 | ribasushi | pmsz: smb is heavy too |
| 10:36.38 | nsadmin | as you can see it depends on libc6, which would get upgraded |
| 10:36.46 | themill | HerrBlume: what makes you want to that? |
| 10:37.05 | ribasushi | pmsz: just went with rsync for what I am doing now, but that's no mount replacement :( |
| 10:37.07 | HerrBlume | openssl has a security flaw |
| 10:37.13 | HerrBlume | http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2009-3555 |
| 10:37.41 | nsadmin | and was a fix released then? |
| 10:38.05 | bzed | yes. |
| 10:38.17 | bzed | HerrBlume: are you using security.debian.org in your sources.list? |
| 10:38.35 | bzed | !tell HerrBlume about security |
| 10:38.38 | pmsz | ribasushi: rsync is a bit different :) good and fast for upgrading gentoo portage stuff etc. I doubt if it could ever be used as a "normal" file transfer protocol |
| 10:38.41 | HerrBlume | yes, I do |
| 10:38.49 | HerrBlume | I did an apt-get update |
| 10:39.03 | ribasushi | pmsz: it beats the shit off smbfs (whole-file, no checksumming) |
| 10:39.19 | ribasushi | pmsz: rsync basically gets me to disk-speed (network is faster) |
| 10:39.21 | bzed | HerrBlume: then run apt-get upgrade |
| 10:39.23 | nsadmin | you should consider using aptitude, it knows better dep resolution |
| 10:39.31 | ribasushi | pmsz: while smb barely can hold 15mb/s |
| 10:39.40 | pmsz | ribasushi: well, it sure does but its functionality and main purpose of existence is not as a primary file transfer protocol... however, depends on your needs |
| 10:39.52 | bzed | nsadmin: bah. aptitude sucks for a lot of reasons. it doesn't make a difference what you use to install a security update |
| 10:40.05 | ribasushi | pmsz: yes, my needs are a lean protocol that allows for mounting too :) |
| 10:40.09 | nsadmin | ribasushi: why not use rsync then? |
| 10:40.12 | project2501a | how do i find out of the kernel supports a specific intel raid controller? |
| 10:40.21 | ribasushi | nsadmin: <ribasushi> pmsz: just went with rsync for what I am doing now, but that's no mount replacement :( |
| 10:40.24 | bzed | HerrBlume: or just see what dpkg told you about how to upgrade your system |
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| 10:40.35 | themill | bzed: it can install a security upgrade with just an "upgrade" rather than requiring a "dist-upgrade", but that's a minor advantage :) |
| 10:41.02 | themill | HerrBlume: which specific network-facing package do you believe to be affected by this that you are seeking to upgrade? |
| 10:41.24 | HerrBlume | the upgrade doesn't upgrade openssl |
| 10:41.34 | pmsz | ribasushi: why are you so reluctant to take up nfs, though? |
| 10:41.46 | blackshirt | hello, anyone here experienced with apt-build ?? |
| 10:41.52 | ribasushi | pmsz: hard to authenticate sanely |
| 10:42.10 | HerrBlume | ok I will read about dpkg |
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| 10:43.47 | pmsz | ribasushi: you rule out kerberos etc. ? |
| 10:44.19 | ribasushi | pmsz: haven't really looked into it too hard, but seems layer upon layer of fixup :) |
| 10:44.38 | bzed | themill: apt-get is able to do that, too. security-updates rarely require to install new packages or remove packages |
| 10:45.07 | bzed | HerrBlume: then either your /etc/apt/sources.list is not correct, or it is upgraded already |
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| 10:45.19 | pmsz | nah, along with nfs4 it sounds reasonable |
| 10:45.34 | bzed | HerrBlume: what does dpkg -s libssl0.9.8 | grep Version say? |
| 10:45.38 | HerrBlume | bzed: It is still version openssl_0.9.8g but now patchlevel 15 |
| 10:45.40 | E-bola | Anybody have a guess for a release date for aqueeze? :) |
| 10:45.47 | themill | bzed: emphasis on rarely. A lot of people failed to properly update their systems for DSA1571 and DSA1574 because they *did* require the installation of new packages. (there were a couple of more recent and less catastrophic krb-related updates that had the same problem) |
| 10:46.08 | HerrBlume | 0.9.8g-15+lenny8 |
| 10:46.18 | ribasushi | pmsz: will have to read then, thanks for the pointer |
| 10:47.11 | bzed | HerrBlume: now look at the url you've posted in which version that bug was fixed. |
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| 10:47.33 | bzed | HerrBlume: ah, it was not, indeed. interesting :) |
| 10:47.49 | HerrBlume | fixed in version 0.9.8o-2 |
| 10:48.18 | blackshirt | hello, anyone here experienced with apt-build ?? |
| 10:48.59 | HerrBlume | The problem is that some clients (firefox) are complaining about this bug and refuse to connect |
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| 10:49.24 | pmsz | ribasushi: sure, no problem, good luck and have fun :) |
| 10:49.37 | themill | HerrBlume: what exactly is failing to connect to what? Which is the client and which is the server? |
| 10:49.58 | HerrBlume | the server is standard apache2.2 with mod_ssl enabled |
| 10:50.29 | HerrBlume | the client firefox 3.* |
| 10:50.41 | themill | HerrBlume: that bug is fixed in lenny's apache2, as noted on that page. |
| 10:50.41 | bzed | HerrBlume: if you scroll down it says: [lenny] - openssl <no-dsa> (fix changes functionality, can be fixed in point release) |
| 10:51.04 | bluesceada | hey anyone can tell me how to get pdf reading with chromium-browser working? preferably with okular(or any program chooseable as external reader) |
| 10:51.16 | bluesceada | but it would be already nice if it would work at all |
| 10:51.40 | bzed | HerrBlume: so if you're using apache, everything is fine |
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| 10:53.03 | HerrBlume | bzed: thank you version much |
| 10:54.30 | HerrBlume | il will disable renegotiation |
| 10:54.48 | bluesceada | hmh |
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| 11:00.36 | Polysics | hello |
| 11:00.56 | Polysics | might be OT, but anyone has a working mail server with virtual setup they care to share? |
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| 11:01.21 | Polysics | i need to manage email for 20ish domains, bonus if it's all mysql based so i can eventually build a mgmt interface |
| 11:01.52 | pk4r | are views disabled by default in mysql-server (5.0.51a-24+lenny4) ? |
| 11:02.48 | pk4r | CREATE VIEW `some.view` AS SELECT... fails, but views are present since mysql 5.0.1 |
| 11:03.22 | xyan | pk4r: what does it say? fails is pretty much no information at all |
| 11:03.31 | xyan | is the user allowed to create views? |
| 11:03.54 | pk4r | ERROR 1103 (42000): Incorrect table name 'some.view' |
| 11:04.15 | Shadur | pk4r: USE some; CREATE VIEW view AS SELECT.... |
| 11:04.18 | pallgone | any way to have GNOME switch workspace automatically when a window asks for focus? |
| 11:04.37 | pk4r | Shadur, that's what I did. |
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| 11:19.04 | blackshirt | anyone here have experience with apt-build ?? |
| 11:19.28 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:22.36 | nsadmin | no; I'm otherwise occupied |
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| 12:09.58 | finetic | anyone in here ever set up an OpenVPN server? |
| 12:10.38 | avar | finetic: check out github.com/avar/linode-etc, openvpn directory |
| 12:11.59 | cast | !anyone |
| 12:11.59 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 12:12.05 | cast | finetic: several people. |
| 12:12.40 | finetic | Well, I'm having quite a hard time only reading the howto |
| 12:12.40 | ksx4system | is it possible to change language of already installed instance of Debian Lenny? I have VPS located in my country (Poland) and unfortunately it's NOT in english. |
| 12:13.24 | cast | ok. |
| 12:13.25 | finetic | avar: can i send quick pm to u? |
| 12:13.30 | finetic | or cast |
| 12:13.34 | plugd | meh |
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| 12:13.42 | avar | finetic: Why don't you ask here? |
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| 12:14.31 | avar | Given the choice between asking me and me maybe knowing it, or asking 700 people at once including me doing the latter would seem like a no-brainer. |
| 12:14.33 | blackshirt | ksx4system: i think this is what you want sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 12:14.46 | finetic | avar: many questions |
| 12:14.50 | finetic | but i start here |
| 12:15.07 | finetic | with a couple |
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| 12:16.31 | blackshirt | finetic: describe your problem ?? |
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| 12:21.05 | abrotman | !ru |
| 12:21.05 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here. |
| 12:21.45 | finetic | blackshirt: should i use routed or bridged vpn? |
| 12:21.51 | finetic | blackshirt: what is best in general? |
| 12:22.39 | avar | finetic: Have you read the relevant parts of the openvpn manual? |
| 12:22.51 | finetic | avar: which would you define as those? |
| 12:23.08 | finetic | I've read them but I only have a few hours to install it |
| 12:23.26 | ksx4system | blackshirt: great, it works of course. thank you! :) |
| 12:23.40 | blackshirt | ok :d |
| 12:24.06 | avar | finetic: I don't know, I haven't read it (I've already set it up). But it's better if you've read it and *not* understood something and want to ask questions about *that* than trying to just ask an open ended question like that. |
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| 12:27.12 | tempe | hello everyone, may i know where application file located? Example how can i know where is Eclipse was located |
| 12:27.13 | larsl | If I do 'apt-get build-dep foo', 'apt-get source foo' and then when I try to build the package using 'debuild -us -uc' I get "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libjack-dev", have I found a bug or am I missing a step somewhere? |
| 12:27.32 | larsl | tempe: Use 'which'. |
| 12:27.41 | avar | w 22 |
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| 12:28.12 | anisfarhana | Hello all :) |
| 12:28.17 | anisfarhana | I got a problem with public key here. |
| 12:28.51 | icebrain | !ask |
| 12:28.51 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 12:29.03 | anisfarhana | I try with gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-key 217FE52D08C61F40 , unfortunately i got this --> gpgkeys: key 217FE52D08C61F40 not found on keyserver |
| 12:29.23 | abrotman | so maybe the key isn't there? |
| 12:29.25 | anisfarhana | keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu also failed. |
| 12:29.31 | blackshirt | hello |
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| 12:29.37 | anisfarhana | abrotman: yeah i can see that. |
| 12:29.45 | anisfarhana | abrotman: the problem is , how to find that key. |
| 12:30.20 | abrotman | is it a debian key? |
| 12:30.32 | anisfarhana | I guess no. |
| 12:30.32 | abrotman | (note, there is also #gnupg) |
| 12:30.41 | anisfarhana | W: GPG error: http://repos.knowledgetree.com knowledgetree-ce Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 217FE52D08C61F40 |
| 12:30.47 | anisfarhana | That one. |
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| 12:34.47 | anisfarhana | I google about 1 hour to find the answer , but i failed. |
| 12:35.22 | blackshirt | maybe pubkey is not valid or expire ?? |
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| 12:35.39 | anisfarhana | blackshirt: I have no idea about that , i got that when i do apt-get update. |
| 12:35.43 | vhuren | how can I check the network utilization of an interface? I wanna see if its being maxed out etc? |
| 12:36.24 | cast | vhuren: iptraf, numerous others |
| 12:36.34 | vhuren | ty sir ;) |
| 12:36.57 | icebrain | anisfarhana: tried "wget http://repos.knowledgetree.com/deb/knowledgetree/kt.key -O- | sudo apt-key add " ? |
| 12:37.20 | vhuren | cast: what others might there be? |
| 12:37.36 | anisfarhana | icebrain: That is from KT's forum if im not mistaken , have tried it before , all i got is broken pipe. |
| 12:37.47 | blackshirt | anisfarhana: try apt-get update again |
| 12:37.48 | blackshirt | vhuren: vnstat ?? |
| 12:38.01 | vhuren | ok let me try |
| 12:38.11 | anisfarhana | blackshirt: done , and still broken pipe. |
| 12:38.31 | themill | anisfarhana: should be http://repos.knowledgetree.com/deb/knowledgetree/conf/kt.key |
| 12:39.02 | themill | anisfarhana: and you might do better asking them how to use their particular commercial software. |
| 12:39.19 | finetic | Is it good to use Sun Virtualbox on Debian? |
| 12:39.29 | anisfarhana | themill: I do have kt.key , is there a way to add it to my box ? |
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| 12:40.30 | themill | anisfarhana: as root, add it with apt-key. (you possibly don't have sudo set up for that command) |
| 12:41.05 | anisfarhana | themill: you mean apt-key add kt.key ? |
| 12:41.11 | Tau | hi. i am having some problems to initialize the kde. when i run it simply doesn't work the keyboard. i am using just the terminal to connect to the irc. |
| 12:41.31 | themill | anisfarhana: yes |
| 12:41.42 | anisfarhana | themill: Reading package lists... Done |
| 12:42.01 | Tau | it gives me a msg something like: ckbcomp couldn't open the file 'lkajsflkhasdkfjh'. |
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| 12:42.13 | anisfarhana | themill: viola! |
| 12:42.43 | anisfarhana | themill: thank you. |
| 12:42.54 | anisfarhana | icebrain / blackshirt : thank you :) |
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| 12:43.23 | qwd | Debian Squeeze AMD64, tracker 0.8.17. I installed tracker in order to tag my files and be able to search for tags in Nautilus. I'm not seeing any Nautilus integration when it comes to searching, only tagging. I added Search Bar to my panel and I can search for the tag there, but I can't click it and see which files are tagged. Is this normal? Is Tracker broken when it comes to tags? |
| 12:43.28 | Tau | hi. |
| 12:43.43 | Tau | could someone help me ? |
| 12:43.51 | anisfarhana | !ask |
| 12:43.51 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 12:44.01 | anisfarhana | bring her laptop and runs away |
| 12:44.19 | Tau | hi. i am having some problems to initialize the kde. when i run it simply doesn't work the keyboard. i am using just the terminal to connect to the irc. |
| 12:44.30 | Tau | it gives me a msg something like: ckbcomp couldn't open the file 'lkajsflkhasdkfjh'. |
| 12:47.51 | vhuren | ty cast and blackshirt, vnstat works perfectly |
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| 12:51.41 | MangledBody | Hi everyone! |
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| 12:52.38 | MangledBody | Sorry for bothering you, I've got Ubuntu, and I'm looking for some alternative for Adobe After Effects, can anybody recommend me something please? |
| 12:54.07 | qwd | !ubuntu |
| 12:54.07 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 12:54.33 | debiantonio | so... |
| 12:55.04 | MangledBody | qwd, debiantonio: I know, but on #Ubuntu nobody helped me:( |
| 12:55.23 | abrotman | MangledBody: this channel is for Debian support, try #ubuntu or ##linux |
| 12:55.49 | MangledBody | abrotman: ok, thx |
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| 13:10.13 | Pendrag0n | do any of you remember off hand the os test command? to tell me which flavor of linux and version? |
| 13:11.15 | petemc | theres lsb_release, but im not sure how standard that is |
| 13:11.25 | petemc | or do you mean uname? |
| 13:12.25 | abrotman | lsb_release -a ? |
| 13:12.26 | Pendrag0n | I found it, cat /etc/issue |
| 13:12.32 | Pendrag0n | uname -a is close |
| 13:12.37 | abrotman | that's not very useful .. i can write anything in there |
| 13:12.38 | Pendrag0n | but I was looking for cat /etc/issue |
| 13:13.01 | Pendrag0n | you could, but this box is closed access, I just needed to know what the last guy was running, what os |
| 13:13.07 | Pendrag0n | Fedora 8 it appears |
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| 13:17.17 | debiantonio | cat /proc/version ? |
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| 13:35.29 | Oom | Can someone take a look at this. It happens everytime I try to start a program that falls into the Game category http://pastebin.com/N7V83M5D |
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| 13:41.06 | Oom | :/ |
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| 13:43.38 | septiq | Why linux-image-2.6.26-2-openvz-amd64 doesn't support xen domU while linux-image-2.6.26-2-openvz-686 does ? |
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| 13:44.32 | abrotman | Oom: 1) neogeo games are sooo old :) 2) which versoin of Debian is this? uname -r |
| 13:44.43 | Oom | 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 13:45.05 | Oom | still a good system |
| 13:45.23 | abrotman | eh .. right .. i'll send you to my hometown where the deli still has one in the backroom |
| 13:45.40 | abrotman | Oom: have you tried it on a 32bit system instead of a 32bit chroot ? |
| 13:45.40 | Oom | nice haha |
| 13:46.06 | Oom | this is 32bit |
| 13:46.22 | Oom | every game related program i try to run segfaults on me |
| 13:46.31 | Oom | everything else works fine, weirds me out |
| 13:46.46 | abrotman | you mean even non-binary games? like tuxracer or wahtever it's called now? |
| 13:47.07 | Oom | nope stuff on playdeb or other open source games aswell though |
| 13:48.08 | Oom | check it |
| 13:48.25 | Oom | http://pastebin.com/x72Bnz6B |
| 13:48.34 | Oom | trying to run assault cube and bitfighter |
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| 13:50.05 | Oom | same error or segfault everytime no matter what game I try to start |
| 13:50.23 | Oom | bitfighter was a binary and compiled from source, both broke |
| 13:50.33 | Oom | well give the error.. |
| 13:50.45 | abrotman | okay .. so try a Debian package .. not whatever stuff you downloaded from the internet |
| 13:51.06 | abrotman | try extremetuxracer |
| 13:51.08 | Oom | it was a debian build |
| 13:51.17 | Oom | repos? |
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| 13:51.40 | Oom | installing, |
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| 13:54.42 | Oom | abrotman, uh do you know what the command is to start it, its not anything obvious ive tried o.o |
| 13:54.59 | abrotman | Oom: dpkg -L extremetuxracer |
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| 13:55.23 | abrotman | etracer .. apparently |
| 13:55.25 | Oom | ah /usr/games/ |
| 13:55.38 | Oom | yup |
| 13:55.42 | Oom | delicious segmentation fault |
| 13:56.02 | abrotman | did you `aptitude install xorg' ? |
| 13:56.07 | Oom | http://pastebin.com/gqJtXWfz |
| 13:56.15 | Oom | uh no but |
| 13:56.19 | abrotman | but? |
| 13:56.19 | Oom | i did install xscreensaver |
| 13:56.25 | abrotman | aptitude install xorg |
| 13:56.26 | Oom | and it pulled a bunch of xorg stuff |
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| 13:57.37 | Oom | o. |
| 13:57.40 | Oom | removing tons of things |
| 13:58.20 | Oom | uh |
| 13:58.31 | abrotman | you were probably running a mixed system |
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| 13:58.34 | Oom | Removing unzip ... |
| 13:58.39 | abrotman | this is bad |
| 13:58.42 | Oom | Removing python |
| 13:58.43 | abrotman | running a mixed system i mean |
| 13:58.53 | Oom | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:59.00 | abrotman | didn't you look at the list of packages it was going to remove? |
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| 13:59.22 | Oom | skimmed, but why would it remove all these libraries and programs that are unrelated |
| 13:59.32 | abrotman | mixed system .. i just said that |
| 13:59.43 | tempe | !ask |
| 13:59.43 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:59.44 | Oom | still segfaults |
| 13:59.59 | Oom | Current status: 473 updates [-81]. |
| 14:01.02 | shadow98 | trying to start heartbeat here are errors from syslog |
| 14:01.03 | shadow98 | http://pastebin.com/uivn0WVF |
| 14:01.06 | Oom | *** etracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't set console screen info (Invalid argument) |
| 14:01.16 | Oom | i got past the segfault atleast |
| 14:01.29 | abrotman | Oom: you need to do a full-upgrade at least .. i have no idea what you've done to your system, but it's in a bad state .. when is the last time you updated your system ? |
| 14:01.31 | Oom | also binarys turned unexecutable after the aptitude xorg |
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| 14:01.40 | Oom | abrotman, like yesterday |
| 14:01.47 | Oom | its only been installed for a week or two |
| 14:02.19 | Oom | E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
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| 14:03.49 | Oom | still xorg errors on starting things non root |
| 14:03.50 | Oom | yawn |
| 14:03.54 | tempe | I have a problem with Obtaining a Maps API Key I'm running Debian Version Squeeze. When I try to do keytool -list -alias alias_name -keystore my-release-key.keystore I get the following output keytool error: java.lang.Exception: Keystore file does not exist: my-release-key.keystore I expected it gives like this result: Certificate fingerprint (MD5): 94:1E:43:49:87:73:BB:E6:A6:88:D7:20:F1:8E:B5:98 |
| 14:06.26 | Oom | ugh |
| 14:06.30 | Oom | missing tons of programs now |
| 14:07.00 | Oom | may aswell install something then |
| 14:07.05 | Oom | else* |
| 14:08.06 | abrotman | Oom: full-upgrade .. not an upgrade |
| 14:08.25 | Oom | what |
| 14:08.47 | Oom | oh |
| 14:09.08 | abrotman | Oom: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 14:10.41 | Oom | give me a minute, still upgrading |
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| 14:11.04 | Oom | http://pastebin.com/sBmTLxt2 |
| 14:11.09 | tempe | I have a problem with Obtaining a Maps API Key I'm running Debian Version Squeeze. When I try to do keytool -list -alias alias_name -keystore my-release-key.keystore I get the following output keytool error: java.lang.Exception: Keystore file does not exist: my-release-key.keystore I expected it gives like this result: Certificate fingerprint (MD5): 94:1E:43:49:87:73:BB:E6:A6:88:D7:20:F1:8E:B5:98 |
| 14:11.23 | Routers | i small question .. where is the location for mysqlclient ? |
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| 14:12.39 | Routers | can i know where is the location for mysqlclient in debian? |
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| 14:15.15 | stew | Routers: /usr/bin/mysql |
| 14:15.34 | Routers | tried that |
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| 14:15.45 | stew | Routers: is the mysql-client package installed? |
| 14:15.49 | Routers | yes |
| 14:16.20 | stew | Routers: what version of debian are you running? |
| 14:16.21 | lwolf | hi, i'm looking for a tool (possibly packaged on debian) for sending a email when a new php error appear in apache error log. |
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| 14:20.48 | Routers | Linux 2.6.18-194.17.1.el5.028stab070.7PAE #1 SMP Fri Oct 1 15:04:11 MSD 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux |
| 14:20.53 | Routers | erk |
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| 14:22.47 | lwolf | el5 ? entreprise linux ? |
| 14:23.02 | stew | Routers: that just shows us that you are running a redhat kernel |
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| 14:23.54 | stew | Routers: can you show us the output of "apt-cache policy mysql-client" ; use a pastebin |
| 14:25.11 | abrotman | Oom: you were running a mix of stable and testing .. very bad ... |
| 14:25.27 | Oom | i had too |
| 14:25.29 | abrotman | Oom: you should change all the code names in there to be 'squeeze' instead of lenny or testing |
| 14:25.33 | Oom | lots of stiff osmt om tje re[ps |
| 14:25.39 | Oom | isnt in* |
| 14:25.40 | Oom | the |
| 14:25.43 | abrotman | right ... |
| 14:25.49 | Oom | repos lol |
| 14:25.51 | Oom | off a key sorry |
| 14:25.59 | Oom | lots of things arent in the repos |
| 14:26.10 | stew | Oom: can you give us an example? |
| 14:26.26 | Oom | well im used to Arch |
| 14:26.33 | abrotman | guess he can't |
| 14:26.57 | Oom | not right now |
| 14:27.31 | stew | Oom: what version of debian are you intending to run? stable (currently aka lenny) or testing (currently aka squeeze) ? |
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| 14:28.04 | Oom | i dont know, ive never used debian, it was the only cd I could find that had a label on it when my OS died last week |
| 14:28.31 | stew | Oom: let us know if we can help you. doesn't sound like we can yet |
| 14:28.51 | Oom | that wasnt the problem though |
| 14:28.54 | abrotman | Oom: did you finish your 'full-upgrade' yet? |
| 14:28.59 | Oom | nope |
| 14:29.04 | Oom | almost |
| 14:30.51 | Oom | 500mb upgrade |
| 14:31.07 | Routers | stew : -bash: apt-cache: command not found |
| 14:32.15 | abrotman | Routers: dpkg -l dpkg ? |
| 14:32.48 | Routers | -bash: dpkg: command not found |
| 14:33.25 | abrotman | Routers: lsb_release -a .. what does it say? |
| 14:34.20 | Routers | -bash: lsb_release: command not found |
| 14:35.39 | themill | Routers: "cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*}" (you might want to stick that output in a pastebin) |
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| 14:37.35 | stew | Routers: it sounds like you are perhaps running redhat instead of debian, since you have a redhat kernel and none of the debian specific tools |
| 14:39.36 | Routers | .. |
| 14:39.50 | Routers | libmysqlclient_r.so.15 libmysqlclient_r.so.16 libmysqlclient.so.15 libmysqlclient.so.16 libndbclient.so.3 mysqlbug plugin |
| 14:39.51 | Routers | libmysqlclient_r.so.15.0.0 libmysqlclient_r.so.16.0.0 libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 libmysqlclient.so.16.0.0 libndbclient.so.3.0.0 mysql_config |
| 14:40.26 | Routers | that is in mysql dir .. which one should i use for ./configure --with-mysqlclient-lib= |
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| 14:50.06 | stew | Routers: what does "cat /etc/redhat-release" return ? |
| 14:50.21 | stew | Routers: when you said that you had the mysql-client package installed? how did you check that? |
| 14:50.31 | stew | Routers: or, how did you install it? |
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| 14:51.08 | Routers | CentOS release 5.5 (Final) |
| 14:51.30 | Routers | the root have installed it |
| 14:51.53 | SlayerXP | did I join the wrong channel? |
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| 14:54.17 | stew | Routers: you are in the wrong channel, you should be asking in #centos |
| 14:54.26 | stew | Routers: this channel is for debian support |
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| 15:03.03 | Oom | hey uh |
| 15:03.04 | Oom | abrotman, |
| 15:03.07 | Oom | its done |
| 15:03.24 | abrotman | is it? |
| 15:03.28 | Oom | ./bitfighter: line 18: 11011 Segmentation fault ./bitfighter -rootDataDir "$userdatadir" |
| 15:03.32 | Oom | didnt fix anything |
| 15:03.44 | abrotman | are you using binary drivers from nvidia or ati ? |
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| 15:03.56 | Oom | Intel |
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| 15:12.37 | b0nghitter | aptitude wont let me forget changes |
| 15:12.44 | b0nghitter | i hit + on all of the clamav updates then decided to wait and install the security update first.. i cant deselect the clamav ones |
| 15:13.00 | b0nghitter | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.29 | stew | b0nghitter: "forget pending actions" in the actions menu |
| 15:13.38 | b0nghitter | i did that, it does nothing |
| 15:14.31 | b0nghitter | it wont let me select it in the menu, it says F is forbid version |
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| 15:21.07 | flaggy | hello, is there a tool that checks if all the binaries installed in /bin, /usr/bin, etc have the md5sum they should have if they were installed by a debian package? |
| 15:21.42 | abrotman | debsums |
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| 15:28.21 | dkr | how do I get a symlink in /dev/disk/by-uuid for a new device? (logged in to iscsi volume, partitioned it, created fs, used tune2fs -U random to generate uuid) /etc/init.d/udev reload apparently isn't enough? |
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| 15:32.24 | dkr | heh udevadm has an option called --max_childs |
| 15:33.20 | dkr | figured to do udevadm control --reload_rules but it turns out that's exactly what /etc/init.d/reload does |
| 15:33.35 | dkr | er, /etc/init.d/udev reload |
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| 15:35.22 | ferrico | hi |
| 15:35.39 | blackshirt1 | hi ferrico.. :d |
| 15:35.58 | ferrico | i have downloaded a kernel.tar.bz2 from www.kernel.org for customing my own kernel |
| 15:36.11 | ferrico | but when i run module assistant |
| 15:36.23 | ferrico | i have an error on header kernel files |
| 15:36.43 | ferrico | the tar.gz includes kernel header files??? |
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| 15:37.41 | ferrico | its strange because in google its supose to be in /lib/modules/xxx/build dir |
| 15:38.31 | jhutchins | ferrico: I don't think _module_ assistant is intended for compiling entire kernels, it's used to compile updated kernel modules. |
| 15:38.40 | jhutchins | ferrico: Why do you need a custom kernel? |
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| 15:39.36 | ferrico | no first of all |
| 15:39.41 | ferrico | my english is not good |
| 15:39.43 | ferrico | :) |
| 15:40.01 | ferrico | i use module assistant to get my wireless card runs on my macbook |
| 15:40.05 | ferrico | with debian lenny |
| 15:40.29 | ferrico | i have b43 modules (broadcom b43xx rev 03) |
| 15:40.33 | abrotman | ferrico: what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 15:40.41 | abrotman | oh wait .. custom kernel .. no thanks |
| 15:40.56 | ferrico | uname -r = "2.6.86ferrico" |
| 15:41.05 | ferrico | cause i custom the kernel name |
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| 15:41.16 | stew | kernel from the future! |
| 15:41.22 | ferrico | at this moment i boot from my custom kernel |
| 15:41.33 | ferrico | module assistant needs the kernel header files |
| 15:42.09 | ferrico | i dont know if the kernel.tar.bz2 i downloaded from www.kernel.org includes the kernel header files |
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| 15:42.18 | mbruins | hi, does anyone have tibia running on debian? |
| 15:42.32 | stew | ferrico: you can point it either at the source you compiled from or the headers, in /lib/modules/2.6.86ferrico/build if you built and installed a -headers package when compiling your kernel |
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| 15:43.04 | stew | ferrico: you need the configured headers after you build the kenrel, not just the stuff you unpacked from the tarball |
| 15:43.23 | ferrico | ok |
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| 15:43.45 | ferrico | the configured headers is supossed to be in /lib/modules/2.6.86ferrico/build |
| 15:43.55 | petemc | he doesn think he would be able to compete |
| 15:44.01 | ferrico | but when i put in module assisnta |
| 15:44.07 | petemc | i want him to move back here and grow anyway |
| 15:44.11 | HackeMate | hello, what channel can i join to ask about security in apache server? |
| 15:44.15 | petemc | oops, wrong chan |
| 15:44.30 | ferrico | "m-a a-i --kernel-dir=/lib/modules/2.6.86ferrico/build ndiswrapper" |
| 15:44.30 | stew | ferrico: that's the place a -headers package would install them to |
| 15:44.40 | edju | I'm having trouble setting up dhcpd manually, so I'm trying gadmin-dhcpd. I get an error msg - "ISC DHCPD is ... not in your path". What path is that? |
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| 15:44.51 | ferrico | i get an error saying its not a valid tree source directory |
| 15:44.51 | stew | ferrico: you should check that that is a symlink pointing to a directory with source or headers |
| 15:45.02 | metalfoo | HackeMate: Why don't try it here? Nevertheless there is a channel specialized to Apache (#httpd I think was its name) |
| 15:45.10 | stew | ferrico: what does "ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.86ferrico/build" return? |
| 15:46.03 | stew | ferrico: are you sure that 2.6.86 is correct? that's a kernel version I'd not expect to exist for a few more years |
| 15:46.08 | ferrico | ok |
| 15:46.20 | ferrico | the last command |
| 15:46.23 | stew | HackeMate: if you are asking in relation to the debian apache packages, then you can ask here |
| 15:46.44 | ferrico | is a link to /usr/src/linux-2.6.36/ |
| 15:47.13 | ferrico | stew when i say 2.6.86 i mean 2.6.36 |
| 15:47.16 | ferrico | excuse me |
| 15:47.59 | ferrico | ls -la /lib/modules/2.6.36ferrico/build is a link to /usr/src/linux-2.6.36 |
| 15:48.03 | stew | ferrico: is that the directory where you build the kernel? |
| 15:48.03 | abrotman | why did he compile a kernel anyway ? |
| 15:48.11 | ferrico | yes |
| 15:48.42 | stew | ferrico: what happens if you run just "m-a a-i ndiswrapper" ? |
| 15:48.43 | blackshirt1 | ferrico: you must install kernel-header |
| 15:48.51 | stew | blackshirt1: why can't he use the source? |
| 15:49.29 | ferrico | stew when i run "m-a a-i ndiswrapper" first of all runs automatically apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.36ferrico |
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| 15:49.33 | blackshirt1 | yes, of course we can.. |
| 15:49.45 | ferrico | but it doesn exist (sure so its a custom name) |
| 15:49.56 | stew | blackshirt1: then what do you mean by "you must install kernel-header" ? |
| 15:50.17 | blackshirt1 | i mean kernel-header for the custom kernel.. |
| 15:50.18 | ferrico | module assistante sugest i should use a pointer to the directory of kernel headers |
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| 15:50.58 | ferrico | i think than my kernels headers alreay are in /lib/modules/2.6.36ferrico/build |
| 15:51.33 | ferrico | but when i use than path in module assistant i get an error telling me thats there are not a valid source tree directory for kernel headers |
| 15:53.02 | HackeMate | well there I go: I have a problem, Some IPs were attacking the server, 20 connections per second, so I blocked the flood via iptables but now I have the problem that I block public places like universities and schools |
| 15:53.07 | HackeMate | some tip? |
| 15:53.22 | HackeMate | any help or link is appreciated, its really annoying |
| 15:53.40 | stew | HackeMate: you need help doing what? unblockng something you blocked with iptables? |
| 15:54.27 | HackeMate | stew: some ips are flooding my server, so I created a rule via iptables to block every IP that try to connect 20 times per second, but public sites with public ips are being blocked too |
| 15:54.39 | stew | ok |
| 15:54.55 | metalfoo | HackeMate: There is no safe way to avoid this unless you don't insist on static limits as connections per second. |
| 15:55.12 | stew | HackeMate: what makes you think they are flooding your server? what exactly are they doing? |
| 15:55.38 | dkr | HackeMate: are they web requests? maybe you could filter at the app level, e.g. apache's mod_security |
| 15:56.18 | metalfoo | Which makes sense only, if the type of attack fits into the application level (SYN flood for example won't) |
| 15:56.19 | dkr | (at the app level there is more data available to use to separate ddos from normal traffic) |
| 15:56.43 | HackeMate | I'm reading the logs to check it, sec |
| 15:56.47 | stew | if its a web-server, 20 connections per second can be normal for a page with a bunch of images |
| 15:57.02 | stew | iceweasel, for instance, comes configured to make 15 simultaneous connections per server |
| 15:58.10 | ferrico | "m-a a-i --kernel-dir /lib/modules/2.6.36ferrico/build ndiswrapper" => Error: Bad kernel version specification at /usr/bin/m-a at line XXX |
| 15:58.18 | ferrico | no way |
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| 15:59.15 | finetic | for some reason my brand new dedicated server reboots often.. any idea where should could be caused by? |
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| 15:59.35 | HackeMate | they do web request to: domain.com/node/1255 - that url doesn't exist |
| 15:59.38 | HackeMate | its a bad request |
| 15:59.55 | Shtl | Hello all |
| 16:00.00 | Shtl | i have wifi networks available around my area, some show a lock kind of thing and one without it. if tried connect it, it will connect and i see the message "wireless connection established" but i am unable to get any web page, any one help me solving this? |
| 16:01.12 | abrotman | the lock means they have encryption |
| 16:01.50 | stew | HackeMate: your apache server knows how to handle this |
| 16:02.16 | HackeMate | give me a keyword to search please |
| 16:02.20 | HackeMate | i'll read the documentation |
| 16:02.34 | stew | keyword for what? |
| 16:03.00 | HackeMate | the fact is appache dies after a while, it can't handle 70k connections per hour so it die |
| 16:03.18 | HackeMate | maybe i missconfigured something |
| 16:03.34 | stew | HackeMate: oh, that's a different story, it shouldn't die. check the error log for errors when it dies |
| 16:03.59 | HackeMate | ok there I go |
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| 16:09.02 | Shtl | abrotman: but one i can see which dont have lock and i can connect to it, and it will also get me an IP assigned to my system |
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| 16:13.34 | carandraug | hi! I'm running a program (web client) written in java. In Debian it fails to connect but in Ubuntu (running in a virtual machine in the same computer) works fine. Both are running openJDK. Is there any configuration needed of openJDK? |
| 16:15.08 | stew | carandraug: add "net.ipv6.bindv6only=0" to /etc/sysctl.conf and run "sysctl -p" then try again |
| 16:15.44 | carandraug | stew, ok. I'm trying. Thanks |
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| 16:17.41 | carandraug | stew, that solved my problem. Thank you very much. Could you explain very short what it does so I what the problem was? |
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| 16:22.17 | macrobat | i'm about to install kde. i want to avoid having to revert any changes with update-alternatives. how do i keep my preferred applications? |
| 16:23.43 | o2T7 | Hello. Is it possible to "see" the calls made by a computer infected by an auto dialer? I mean, installing a rj11 card in my Debian and some sort of software capable to do that ... The infected machine is, of course, a Windoze one. I need to audit that system to demostrate the behaviour of the dialer. Is it possible? |
| 16:24.47 | blackshirt | o2T7: i still figure out your need ?? |
| 16:25.29 | o2T7 | blackshirt: sorry, what do you mean? |
| 16:27.08 | o2T7 | I need to demostrate that the calls were made by that machine. |
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| 16:29.36 | valdyn | o2T7: run the dialer in a debugger |
| 16:30.06 | valdyn | o2T7: there is also a tool like strace for windows |
| 16:30.20 | valdyn | o2T7: but i wonder what this question does in a debian channel |
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| 16:32.18 | o2T7 | valdyn: Yeah, a bit offtopic, I know. I thought that perhaps there is a tcpdump-like tool available for Debian, for interpreting telephony signals that come from a rj11 interface. |
| 16:32.21 | iwkse | hi do you know if espeak or festival provides some syth voices similar to the one used in google translation? (aka good quality) |
| 16:32.55 | valdyn | o2T7: geez |
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| 16:34.01 | anisfarhana | Oh my god , i got another problem...again! |
| 16:34.35 | anisfarhana | Could anyone can assist me on this --> http://pastebin.ws/7sargg ? |
| 16:35.05 | valdyn | o2T7: you would need serial hardware sniffer or a modem emulator software unless that dialer just dials blindly without waiting for the modem to respond |
| 16:35.29 | iwkse | anisfarhana: as suggested apt-get -f install |
| 16:35.41 | iwkse | anisfarhana: what are you trying to do? mixing packages from different releases? |
| 16:35.44 | valdyn | o2T7: or maybe a serial Y cable is sufficient to sniff, I wouldnt know |
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| 16:36.53 | stew | anisfarhana: we'd typically recommend using aptitude which has more sophisticated dependency resolution |
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| 16:37.14 | valdyn | o2T7: or you could just emulate the modem yourself manually, thats not to hard |
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| 16:37.29 | stew | anisfarhana: you can also try to drill-down to one of the mentioned pacakges to see why its "not going to be installed", with, for example "apt-get install ghostscript" |
| 16:37.43 | valdyn | o2T7: something like dialer sends AT, your respond OK, or somesuch |
| 16:38.04 | anisfarhana | stew: right. |
| 16:38.20 | o2T7 | well, it sounds funny |
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| 16:38.42 | stew | anisfarhana: the packages you are having trouble with aren't in debian. is this actually debian? |
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| 16:38.44 | anisfarhana | stew: What do you mean by mixing packages from different releases ? |
| 16:38.56 | valdyn | o2T7: if you have a nullmodem cable, just connect it to the windows pc and run minicom on that serial port, and play |
| 16:39.09 | anisfarhana | stew: yes it is debian |
| 16:39.21 | o2T7 | valdyn: the final goal would be to identify the tarjet phone number |
| 16:39.37 | anisfarhana | stew: It is lenny 5.0.6 |
| 16:39.37 | stew | anisfarhana: i didn't say anything like that, but it DOES seem like its likely to be the cause if your problem. like perhaps you are installing packages from both lenny and squeeze |
| 16:39.45 | valdyn | o2T7: and if you get the dialer to dial, then you would see something like "ATD090032320230" |
| 16:40.03 | anisfarhana | stew: I try to install Knowledgetree which is available via apt-get , i just need to add repos for that.. |
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| 16:40.39 | valdyn | o2T7: should be easy enough once you read up about the AT protocol |
| 16:40.56 | stew | anisfarhana: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" and the output of "apt-cache policy package1 package2 pacakge3" for a few of the packages mentioned in your error message |
| 16:41.13 | o2T7 | valdyn: wow, thank you :) |
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| 16:41.53 | anisfarhana | stew: http://pastebin.ws/aua47j , this is apt-cache policy |
| 16:43.29 | karlpinc | valdyn: He said rj11, not rj45. I'm wondering if it's really serial port output or if it's already telephany. |
| 16:43.47 | anisfarhana | stew: http://pastebin.ws/ote65 , this is the policy. |
| 16:43.55 | anisfarhana | stew: http://pastebin.ws/ote65 , this is the policy for the few packages. |
| 16:44.23 | o2T7 | karlpinc: I think that in the phone bill they appear as phone calls |
| 16:44.25 | valdyn | karlpinc: hmm, i just hear modem, i can never remember or tell apart rjxy |
| 16:44.58 | valdyn | karlpinc: but if its a pc it will dial out whatever modem or fake modem is there |
| 16:45.14 | valdyn | karlpinc: and if that pc has a serial port, that can be arranged as i said |
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| 16:46.03 | ScottG | I want to be able to unmount something in a script which will run when I press a button. Normally I need to do this as root, though, and I'd rather not just put umount in sudoers because I think there is a more "right" way to do this. Ideas? |
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| 16:46.07 | o2T7 | valdyn: I thought that the minicom/serialport setup had to be made in my Debian box |
| 16:46.17 | karlpinc | valdyn: If it's got an internal modem it'll plug directly into the phone system. (In which case he should be able to plug a telephone into it and listen for dialing noises.) |
| 16:46.26 | stew | anisfarhana: yeah, so if someone guessed you were "mixing releases" they were right. you seem to have ubuntu packages installed on your debian machine. |
| 16:46.28 | valdyn | o2T7: you connect both serial ports via nullmodem cable |
| 16:46.46 | anisfarhana | stew: that was my fault , i did add the ubuntu repos on it. |
| 16:46.49 | valdyn | o2T7: if your pc modem is only a softmodem and it does have no serial port, then you cant do what i said |
| 16:47.20 | valdyn | o2T7: but if it has a serial port you can remove the driver for the soft modem and install a driver for a serial modem and my idea is feasable, np |
| 16:47.22 | anisfarhana | stew: the default repos can't find the package for 'swftools' |
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| 16:48.30 | o2T7 | valdyn: I have a serialusb cable somewhere. I guess that it could do the job :) |
| 16:48.33 | stew | anisfarhana: what does "aptitude search '~i~Vubuntu' | wc -l" return? |
| 16:48.52 | anisfarhana | stew: now 0 |
| 16:48.55 | valdyn | o2T7: it needs to be crossover, i dont know how that works with usb |
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| 16:49.04 | anisfarhana | stew: i just remove the swftools from ubuntu repos. |
| 16:49.11 | valdyn | o2T7: thats why "nullmodem" cable, not modem cable or serial cable |
| 16:49.49 | anisfarhana | stew: The following packages have unmet dependencies: knowledgetree-ce: Depends: swftools but it is not installable |
| 16:50.16 | anisfarhana | stew: and apt-cache search swftools didn't find anything! |
| 16:50.28 | valdyn | o2T7: nullmodem cable was, once upon a time, the decent solution to transfer data between 2 computers ;) |
| 16:50.58 | stew | aanisfarhana: well, i'd still recommend my original suggestions which were "use aptitude isntead of apt-get" and "see why one of the "not going to be installed" packages isn't going to be installed |
| 16:51.20 | o2T7 | valdyn: ah, ok, no problem, it is handcraft made by me. I'll crosslink the lines for this. |
| 16:51.46 | anisfarhana | stew: does aptitude is part of debian ? |
| 16:51.53 | valdyn | o2T7: google nullmodem cable ... i dont know how this is done etc, i just bought one |
| 16:52.06 | karlpinc | o2T7: wikipedia. |
| 16:52.31 | valdyn | o2T7: but seems like the transmit and recieve lines are just crossed, thats it, sais wikipedia |
| 16:52.49 | o2T7 | right |
| 16:52.53 | anisfarhana | stew: http://pastebin.ws/g12l3k , this is what i get from aptitude install swftools |
| 16:53.13 | stew | anisfarhana: yes, swftools was removed from debian ddebian earlier this year |
| 16:53.20 | stew | anisfarhana: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=566575 |
| 16:54.05 | anisfarhana | stew :( |
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| 16:54.23 | anisfarhana | stew: Is there a way to install it ? |
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| 16:58.21 | o2T7 | karlpinc, valdyn: Thank you. I'll digest this all :) |
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| 17:07.38 | NITEMAN | hi |
| 17:07.46 | stew | anisfarhana: no idea, you could "backport" the ubuntu package i suppose, "/msg dpkg ssb" but use a ubuntu deb-src line instead of a sid one |
| 17:08.01 | stew | anisfarhana: note the reasons that its no longer in debian: security problems and too buggy |
| 17:08.26 | stew | anisfarhana: i still strongly recommend you figure out why the other packages which ARE in debian weren't being installed |
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| 17:08.57 | NITEMAN | I'm having throuble defendind against a DoS attack, I've tried iptables, but it seems that if i do that we block somoe legitimate users |
| 17:09.05 | NITEMAN | could anyone help me? |
| 17:09.30 | x-ip | agains which service NITEMAN? |
| 17:09.39 | NITEMAN | por 80 |
| 17:09.41 | NITEMAN | port |
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| 17:09.49 | x-ip | are you using apache ? |
| 17:09.51 | NITEMAN | drupal beside apache beside varnish |
| 17:10.04 | abrotman | didn't we just have this question? |
| 17:10.20 | abrotman | <HackeMate> stew: some ips are flooding my server, so I created a rule via iptables to block every IP that try to connect 20 times per second, but public sites with public ips are being blocked too |
| 17:10.26 | NITEMAN | maybe, i was asking a friend |
| 17:10.36 | NITEMAN | because my english is not very good |
| 17:10.36 | stew | NITEMAN: how does it deny service? what is the bottleneck? network bandwidth? disk io? cpu? |
| 17:10.43 | NITEMAN | he suggested me to come here |
| 17:11.20 | NITEMAN | CPU goes to 100% |
| 17:11.34 | NITEMAN | (munin shows some I/O waiting) |
| 17:11.58 | jordanm | you should be able to use fail2ban to block DOS attempts |
| 17:12.20 | NITEMAN | fail2ban? |
| 17:12.28 | stew | jordanm: how does fail2ban differentiate legitimate from illegitimate traffic? |
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| 17:12.41 | zinx | stew: rate |
| 17:12.42 | NITEMAN | we are a public server, how would discriminate DoS traffic? |
| 17:12.49 | zinx | stew: from a single IP |
| 17:12.56 | NITEMAN | ummm |
| 17:13.11 | NITEMAN | thats exactly what I tried with iptables |
| 17:13.26 | NITEMAN | but we have legitimate users doing more than 20 request per second |
| 17:13.28 | stew | zinx: it doesn't sound like they are connecting at an unreasonable rate |
| 17:13.44 | stew | NITEMAN: are you sure that any of this is malicious? if so, how? |
| 17:13.51 | jordanm | stew: it can't really, other than number of attempts in a particular time frame |
| 17:14.28 | NITEMAN | y would name maliciuos 80 000 request in a day of a couple of url |
| 17:14.32 | zinx | NITEMAN: so, up the number of requests per second needed to ban |
| 17:14.39 | Bushmills | if it's just CPU going to 100% - what indications are there that that could be a DoS? |
| 17:14.49 | zinx | i think fail2ban can actually read logs, so it can determine if it's the same URL, but i may be mistaken on that |
| 17:14.58 | Bushmills | (rather than, say, a defective php script, for example) |
| 17:15.33 | jordanm | zinx: it reads the logs and matches regex that you provide to it |
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| 17:15.46 | zinx | most of the requests will have a referer if it's a defective php script, usually |
| 17:15.50 | zinx | (some will not, though) |
| 17:16.17 | karlpinc | o2T7: If you have a tape recording (timestamped with your voice that you are willing to swear on) then the tones on the line indicate the number called. Use a real touch tone wired phone. Each digit has a different tone. |
| 17:16.37 | karlpinc | Oops. Sorry. That was supposed to be off-channel. |
| 17:16.51 | NITEMAN | reading logs I can't determine if a request is legitimate if i don't examine surrounding requests |
| 17:17.17 | karlpinc | NITEMAN: So use something like swatch and dynamically load rules if you don't want a static rate-limited test. |
| 17:17.25 | jordanm | NITEMAN: see Bushmills's question. have you verified that your php script is not doing something like crap database queries that are maxing cpu? |
| 17:17.40 | NITEMAN | in fact the attacker it's apache using a cookie to bypass varnish |
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| 17:18.35 | NITEMAN | jordanm we use standard drupal |
| 17:18.41 | jordanm | NITEMAN: ok? |
| 17:18.50 | jordanm | people release a lot of crap plugins |
| 17:18.58 | NITEMAN | and is always same ips and same user accounts |
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| 17:19.15 | NITEMAN | (we have nearly 1 million registered users) |
| 17:19.38 | jordanm | 25 of them are not spammers? :P |
| 17:19.45 | NITEMAN | i bet it isn't our system |
| 17:20.05 | jordanm | don't bet on anything. "know" |
| 17:20.22 | jordanm | "betting" is bad administration |
| 17:20.24 | anisfarhana | stew: debian backports also don't have swftools. |
| 17:20.29 | NITEMAN | we have a lot of spammers, but we deal with that problem by other means |
| 17:20.32 | Bushmills | " is always same ips and same user accounts" disable account. block ip address. if you're sure. |
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| 17:21.01 | NITEMAN | yeah |
| 17:21.09 | NITEMAN | Bushmills thats fair |
| 17:21.10 | NITEMAN | but |
| 17:21.25 | NITEMAN | I (right now) prefer to know the accounts and the ips |
| 17:21.30 | NITEMAN | until problem is fixed |
| 17:21.55 | NITEMAN | I don't want to trace new accounts and ips |
| 17:22.04 | abrotman | is it even a Debian system? |
| 17:22.05 | Bushmills | reroute them to a "honeypot" style of setup |
| 17:22.07 | NITEMAN | (sure you'll understand) |
| 17:22.15 | NITEMAN | lenny system |
| 17:23.18 | NITEMAN | nice idea bushmills, but again it will only work with identified attackers |
| 17:23.39 | Bushmills | "is always same ips and same user accounts" |
| 17:24.13 | NITEMAN | i asume if we block ips or accounts attacker will change both |
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| 17:24.44 | NITEMAN | but again you're right, that will solve the issue in the short term |
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| 17:25.01 | karlpinc | NITEMAN: So what is wrong with having swatch look at the logs and insert rules that block problems when they are seen? |
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| 17:25.42 | NITEMAN | karlpinc (googlin for swatch) |
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| 17:27.14 | NITEMAN | ups |
| 17:27.24 | NITEMAN | swatch homepage seems to be down |
| 17:27.49 | x-ip | use other links :) |
| 17:27.55 | x-ip | i'm trying that |
| 17:27.57 | karlpinc | NITEMAN: aptitude show swatch |
| 17:28.04 | x-ip | only problem is coded in perl ... |
| 17:28.33 | karlpinc | NITEMAN: Of course you'll have to script something to tell when there's a problem, and what to do about it. |
| 17:28.38 | anisfarhana | I have various packages that i need to install via apt-get , how do i check which packages they are belongs ? |
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| 17:29.01 | karlpinc | anisfarhana: dpkg -S |
| 17:29.17 | Bushmills | or apt-file, can be quicker |
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| 17:30.12 | NITEMAN | karlpinc: swatch seems the best option, I'll try to script something to get attackers ip from logs |
| 17:31.11 | NITEMAN | thank you very much people |
| 17:31.16 | mrbucket | so, i upgraded from etch to lenny, which seemed to uninstall grub. that's fine, but i kind of need it. any guide to re-setting it up (especially when grub-probe -d /dev/sda1 doesnt find a grub drive?) |
| 17:31.34 | mrbucket | this is a xen guest |
| 17:31.37 | mrbucket | if that makes any difference |
| 17:31.43 | mrbucket | googling seems to find that it may? |
| 17:32.33 | x-ip | mrbucket: are you using the system where you want to reinstall grub ? |
| 17:32.46 | mrbucket | x-ip: yeah, i'm connected to it right now over ssh |
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| 17:32.52 | x-ip | ok, use grub command |
| 17:33.13 | x-ip | then specify your hard drive with root command |
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| 17:33.17 | mrbucket | 'install /dev/sda1' says invalid device specified. |
| 17:33.20 | x-ip | examp root (hd0, 1) |
| 17:33.36 | x-ip | o no no, i mean you can use the grub shell :) |
| 17:33.37 | mrbucket | not sure how sda1 maps to grub's stuff |
| 17:33.45 | mrbucket | yes im in the grub shell |
| 17:33.58 | mrbucket | Error 21: Selected disk does not exist |
| 17:34.02 | x-ip | and in which disk partition you want to install grub ? |
| 17:34.04 | mrbucket | which is what i mentioned with grub-probe |
| 17:34.18 | x-ip | fdisk -l what says ? |
| 17:34.47 | mrbucket | neither partition has a valid partition table |
| 17:34.51 | mrbucket | but it's a xen guest |
| 17:34.52 | mrbucket | so.. |
| 17:35.10 | x-ip | hmm ... no idea :\ |
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| 17:37.55 | adam_0 | hello everybody |
| 17:37.57 | adam_0 | I have a question |
| 17:37.59 | crypted | i seem to not be able to get values from "sensors" using lm-sensors although i followed the debian admin guide to install. |
| 17:38.11 | crypted | so i dont flood, i posted stuff at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56926&p=330055#p330055 a minute ago |
| 17:38.12 | adam_0 | I'm using my Debian machine as an ssh server |
| 17:38.18 | crypted | any one have a thought how to get actual values? |
| 17:38.32 | adam_0 | and I'd like to refuse any password logins - only use pubkeys |
| 17:39.14 | adam_0 | I've been going through /etc/ssh/sshd_config but I can't find it |
| 17:39.30 | crypted | adam_0: http://www.go2linux.org/linux/2010/10/ssh-public-key-only-login-authentication-788 |
| 17:39.34 | stew | adam_0: "man sshd_config" its named "PasswordAuthentication" |
| 17:39.57 | adam_0 | weird, I have `PasswordAuthentication no` and it still allows it o.0 |
| 17:40.07 | karlpinc | adam_0: You didn't restart the daemon. |
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| 17:40.15 | adam_0 | ahh, how do I do that karlpinc |
| 17:40.24 | anisfarhana | kicks out her lenny!!! |
| 17:40.25 | crypted | /etc/init.d/sshd restart |
| 17:40.30 | anisfarhana | This is so depressing.. |
| 17:40.42 | crypted | actually, probably ssh not sshd |
| 17:41.17 | crypted | any thoughts out there on my sensors pose? |
| 17:41.18 | stew | adam_0: you'll want to make sure ChallengeResponse is also disabled |
| 17:41.18 | adam_0 | sshd seemed to work… now to test |
| 17:41.29 | anisfarhana | stew / karlpinc : http://pastebin.ws/avw1vm , could you assist me ? |
| 17:41.49 | adam_0 | stew: `ChallengeResponseAuthentication` ? |
| 17:42.13 | crypted | anisfarhana: debian? |
| 17:42.13 | stew | adam_0: yes |
| 17:42.18 | anisfarhana | crypted: yes. |
| 17:42.26 | crypted | anisfarhana: is it available on apt-get? |
| 17:42.38 | crypted | so that you dont have to use ubuntu? |
| 17:42.39 | anisfarhana | crypted: no , the package removed |
| 17:42.44 | stew | anisfarhana: since you continue to ignore my advice, no |
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| 17:42.54 | adam_0 | stew, now I'm just getting "Connection closed by x.x.x.x" |
| 17:42.56 | crypted | mmm |
| 17:43.02 | anisfarhana | stew: did i ? |
| 17:43.04 | crypted | what did stew suggset? |
| 17:43.37 | anisfarhana | stew: i didn't ignore it, i have no idea / no knowledge to follow your advice and asking you so many times on simple thing would bothering you. |
| 17:44.12 | anisfarhana | stew: debian backport also don't have swftools. |
| 17:44.14 | karlpinc | anisfarhana: Clearly, it is not simple. |
| 17:44.22 | stew | adam_0: use ssh -v to see if it is offering a key |
| 17:44.53 | anisfarhana | karlpinc: well i respond to him before. |
| 17:44.58 | stew | anisfarhana: yes, I know, otherwise I would have suggested using that instead of building it yourself |
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| 17:45.23 | anisfarhana | stew: I don't ignore you because i don't know how to building it myself. |
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| 17:45.48 | stew | yeah, which is why i was giving you instructions on how to build it |
| 17:45.51 | adam_0 | stew: http://pastebin.com/QuLibz77 I can't tell if it's offering a key |
| 17:45.55 | adam_0 | but that's full output |
| 17:46.15 | anisfarhana | stew: and i did /msg dpkg on that , i don't understand , and i google , and i still didn't get it. |
| 17:46.29 | adam_0 | it doesn't explicitly name any of my keys, which are all id_rsa_* |
| 17:46.44 | stew | adam_0: try ssh -i /path/to/key |
| 17:47.32 | Bushmills | adam_0: what is the login shell of user atg? |
| 17:47.38 | stew | anisfarhana: your current problem could perhaps be fixed by "aptitude -f install" howver you should NOT install packages compiled for another distro onto debian |
| 17:47.53 | adam_0 | stew: nope. |
| 17:48.03 | adam_0 | Bushmills: you mean like bash? |
| 17:48.03 | anisfarhana | stew: yes i noticed that sir. |
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| 17:48.12 | crypted | i swear this sensors thing sucks |
| 17:48.16 | Bushmills | adam_0: "like", yes |
| 17:48.18 | adam_0 | the thing is, the SSH keys were working before |
| 17:48.20 | anisfarhana | stew: adding ubuntu repos on debian is very very very bad bad bad idea. |
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| 17:48.26 | adam_0 | but password auth was working as well |
| 17:48.29 | adam_0 | now neither is working |
| 17:48.33 | valdyn | crypted: how do you know that your hardware has functional sensors? |
| 17:48.42 | stew | adam_0: can you show me the ssh -v output when adding -i /path/to/key ? |
| 17:48.46 | crypted | yeh according to my datacenter. |
| 17:49.16 | crypted | and, running the syscheck it did detect sensors. so i took those together. |
| 17:49.55 | valdyn | crypted: lm-sensors found sensors too, but that didnt mean anything .. |
| 17:50.06 | adam_0 | stew: http://pastebin.com/kwgtam2r |
| 17:50.16 | crypted | agreed. but taken that the datacenter said the sensors work and that they use that sort of stuff... |
| 17:50.18 | Bushmills | crypted: mbmon may see sensors which may be missed by lm-sensors. or vice versa |
| 17:50.21 | crypted | i didnt want to pay $100 to have it seup |
| 17:50.39 | crypted | No Hardware Monitor found!! |
| 17:50.39 | crypted | InitMBInfo: Success |
| 17:50.43 | crypted | mmm odd enough |
| 17:51.06 | stew | adam_0: i'd look at the server side logs and if they don't show anything obvious, try running a server in debug mode: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
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| 17:51.31 | crypted | Bushmills: id assume mbmon offering nothing suggests no way of monitoring temps? |
| 17:51.54 | adam_0 | I'm wondering if in my tinkering in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I may have messed up something, stew |
| 17:52.13 | stew | adam_0: perhaps, running the server in debug mode should make it more obious |
| 17:52.20 | Bushmills | crypted: acpi can also tell you temps |
| 17:52.29 | anisfarhana | stew: You mean aptitude -f install <package_swftools_deb> ? |
| 17:52.33 | stew | adam_0: "PubkeyAuthentication yes" is in there? |
| 17:52.37 | stew | anisfarhana: no |
| 17:52.46 | adam_0 | stew: correct |
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| 17:53.22 | anisfarhana | stew: or aptitude -f install swftools ? |
| 17:53.33 | stew | anisfarhana: no, i meant what i said, "aptitude -f install" |
| 17:53.57 | anisfarhana | stew: ok and then ? |
| 17:54.20 | adam_0 | stew: figured it out |
| 17:54.22 | stew | anisfarhana: then hopefully nothing |
| 17:54.22 | crypted | Bushmills: may i privmsg you? |
| 17:54.42 | Bushmills | crypted: depends how much you offer |
| 17:54.43 | adam_0 | stew: `LoginGraceTime 1` |
| 17:54.47 | anisfarhana | stew: Reading task descriptions... Done , this is what i get from aptitude -f install |
| 17:54.49 | adam_0 | >_< |
| 17:54.58 | crypted | Bushmills: i assume that wasnt sarcasm so i wont bother ya |
| 17:55.31 | Bushmills | i'm not running a free consultancy agency on IRC |
| 17:55.54 | crypted | agreed, i just didnt want to flood if you had a good knowledge set on this subject matter |
| 17:55.59 | crypted | many convos going on |
| 17:56.02 | crypted | or, were |
| 17:56.04 | stew | anisfarhana: if that was the entire output, then you no longer have the dependency problems you were previously asking about |
| 17:56.46 | stew | anisfarhana: you can verify that you no longer have the unconfigured package you had before with "dpkg --configure -a" |
| 17:56.48 | anisfarhana | stew: so i can proceed with dpkg -i <package.deb> ? |
| 17:56.56 | stew | anisfarhana: you already did that |
| 17:57.02 | stew | but sure, whatever |
| 17:57.12 | anisfarhana | stew: still got dependacies on it! :/ |
| 17:57.24 | adam_0 | Another quick question: how can I change the MOTD that I get when I ssh in? |
| 17:57.31 | anisfarhana | stares at stew |
| 17:57.35 | stew | anisfarhana: ? |
| 17:57.43 | Bushmills | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.57 | adam_0 | Bushmills: thanks |
| 17:57.57 | stew | adam_0: /msg dpkg motd |
| 17:58.08 | stew | adam_0: don't just edit /etc/motd, it will get overwritten |
| 17:58.09 | anisfarhana | stew: http://pastebin.ws/dts5yo |
| 17:58.31 | stew | anisfarhana: "aptitude -f install" |
| 17:58.41 | adam_0 | stew: /msg: no such file or directory |
| 17:58.48 | stew | dpkg: tell adam_0 about motd |
| 17:58.58 | stew | adam_0: (it was a command for irc, not shell) |
| 17:59.02 | adam_0 | oh, is dpkg a bot? |
| 17:59.19 | stew | adam_0: ask her :) |
| 17:59.38 | anisfarhana | stew: Current status: 0 broken [-1], 1725 new [-1] |
| 18:00.05 | adam_0 | stew: I see |
| 18:00.05 | macrobat | dpkg: are you a bot? |
| 18:00.05 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 18:00.11 | adam_0 | heh |
| 18:00.18 | Bushmills | man motd for instructions to modify |
| 18:00.57 | adam_0 | so it's /etc/motd.tail that I should modify |
| 18:01.04 | anisfarhana | stew: i got the same dependacies when i executed dpkg -i swftools_0.9.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb |
| 18:02.07 | Bushmills | maybe that is because the dependencies are still the same? |
| 18:02.16 | anisfarhana | stew: ok , i guess i need to find swftools.deb for debian not ubuntu then ? |
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| 18:02.29 | stew | anisfarhana: yeah, the recommended way to do this (other than the fact that what you are doing is NOT RECOMMENDED AT ALL) is to run dpkg -i, let it fail, then run "aptitude -f install" to fix the dependencies |
| 18:02.51 | anisfarhana | stew: ok hold on. |
| 18:03.51 | anisfarhana | ... |
| 18:04.00 | anisfarhana | stew: I want to show you something. |
| 18:04.34 | karlpinc | stew: I suppose we would tell her to recompile the source, but there isn't any? |
| 18:04.34 | Bushmills | stew, he's unbuttoning his coat now |
| 18:04.41 | stew | karlpinc: we did |
| 18:04.56 | karlpinc | stew: Is there source? |
| 18:04.57 | anisfarhana | stew: http://pastebin.ws/e4drqy |
| 18:05.06 | stew | karlpinc: in ubuntu, but not in debian |
| 18:05.55 | anisfarhana | stew: i need proper swftools to install the knowledgetree-ce :/ |
| 18:06.46 | stew | seriously, people are still running BitchX? |
| 18:07.14 | karlpinc | anisfarhana: Sounds like you'd rather break your system than recompile the source. Why is that? People will tell you what to do if you tell them what error you get. |
| 18:07.34 | anisfarhana | karlpinc: http://pastebin.ws/e4drqy |
| 18:07.47 | karlpinc | stew: It took me a long time to leave for irssi because it comes pre-configured to "window" and I can't see everything at once. |
| 18:08.18 | stew | karlpinc: sure, but there are non-exploitable alternatives which are actually maintained if you don't like irssi |
| 18:08.27 | karlpinc | anisfarhana: I saw that. You tried to install a ubuntu deb without recompiling it from source. And it does not work. |
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| 18:08.50 | stew | anisfarhana: try installing the missing dependencies, this is going to lead you to your eventual problem which is probably going to be that you were mixing releases |
| 18:09.00 | stew | anisfarhana: which is why it wouldn't install pacakges when you first came here |
| 18:09.24 | anisfarhana | stew: so now remove the swftools ? |
| 18:09.28 | stew | no |
| 18:09.32 | stew | not if you want it installed |
| 18:09.55 | adam_0 | thanks for the help stew |
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| 18:10.29 | anisfarhana | stew: after follow your instruction , there is no dependencies anymore , but now all i got is broken package. |
| 18:10.51 | stew | "there is no dependencies anymore"? what does that mean? |
| 18:11.43 | anisfarhana | stew: you told to install the missing dependencies , there is no dependecies. All i got here is broken packages for swftools |
| 18:13.05 | stew | anisfarhana: its broken because of missing dependencieds |
| 18:13.19 | anisfarhana | stew: but i thought we fixed it ? |
| 18:13.29 | anisfarhana | the aptitute -f install ? |
| 18:13.42 | stew | anisfarhana: that was me guessing based on you only letting us see small snippets of the actual output |
| 18:13.47 | karlpinc | anisfarhana: And it told you stuff like: swftools depends on libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0) (but it's not installed) |
| 18:13.50 | stew | anisfarhana: i was guessing wrong |
| 18:14.17 | anisfarhana | scratchs her head |
| 18:14.40 | anisfarhana | karlpinc: i don't know libfontconfig1 which under packages in debian. |
| 18:14.41 | karlpinc | anisfarhana: So now you need to install all the stuff in your paste that is not installed, which will be tricky. Then swftools will work. |
| 18:15.47 | karlpinc | anisfarhana: Herein lies the problem. You can sometimes avoid this if you recompile the source deb. Otherwise you're going to have to force install other stuff just like you did swftools. And they themselves may have problems. And may break existing packages. |
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| 18:16.39 | karlpinc | anisfarhana: But you're the one who wants to shove packages in with a hammer. |
| 18:16.58 | stew | nothing has been force installed yet, afaik |
| 18:17.02 | anisfarhana | karlpinc: i got 5 files on dependecies , how to check which package i need to install to meet hit those 5 files ? |
| 18:17.19 | anisfarhana | *to hit |
| 18:17.43 | karlpinc | stew, anisfarhana : (I'm not paying close attention, sorry.) |
| 18:17.53 | anisfarhana | I don't know those 5 files in what packages. |
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| 18:18.38 | stew | and nothing yet would be different if swftools was "backported", it would still be same procedure |
| 18:18.45 | l403 | Hello. I get these errors with al lot of applications that is probably preventing only some of them to start Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-f9whMJtLWJ: Connection refused) |
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| 18:18.53 | stew | anisfarhana: what files are you talking about? |
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| 18:19.16 | l403 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.55 | anisfarhana | stew: Package libfontconfig1 is not installed , Package libfreetype6 is not installed , Package libgif4 is not installed , Package libjpeg62 is not installed , Package gsfonts is not installed |
| 18:19.55 | Bushmills | l403: what does ls -l /tmp/dbus-f9whMJtLWJ say? |
| 18:20.08 | stew | anisfarhana: those are the pacakge names |
| 18:20.22 | anisfarhana | errr.. |
| 18:20.23 | stew | anisfarhana: you want to know what the package name for "libfontconfig1" is, well its "libfontconfig1" |
| 18:20.43 | l403 | Bushmills, there is no dbus dir in /tmp either |
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| 18:21.06 | stew | l403: what does "ls -ld /tmp/" return ? |
| 18:21.21 | anisfarhana | stew: well when i try to apt-get install libfontconfig1 , there are more dependecies i get! So i guess till tommorow i won't finish it! |
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| 18:21.40 | Bushmills | l403: how long since you started fluxbox the last time, and do you use anything like tempreaver or another program which periodically removes files from /tmp? |
| 18:21.58 | stew | anisfarhana: now we are back to my original suggestions from a few hours ago, "use aptitude" and "try to install those dependencies and see why" |
| 18:22.15 | Bushmills | tmpreaper ... |
| 18:22.18 | stew | anisfarhana: if you can't install those dependencies, install the dependencies of the dependencies, until you figure out hte root cause |
| 18:22.25 | stew | anisfarhana: but aptitude would figure this out quicker |
| 18:23.09 | l403 | stew, owner root, all right to everyone |
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| 18:24.28 | stew | l403: what do you mean? |
| 18:24.33 | l403 | Bushmills, fluxbox has been running for about a week, I do not have tempreaver installed or nothing similar is in dpkg -l|grep temp |
| 18:25.27 | l403 | stew, drwxrwxrwt 22 root root 16384 Nov 2 14:17 /tmp/ |
| 18:25.36 | Bushmills | l403: seems you current session is busted, for unknown reason. log out of fluxbox, and start it again |
| 18:25.41 | anisfarhana | stew: ok good news. |
| 18:25.52 | anisfarhana | stew: i success to install all those dependencies! |
| 18:26.21 | anisfarhana | stew: and now the last step , should i dpkg -i swftools.deb ? (the package from ubuntu though) |
| 18:27.14 | anisfarhana | Setting up swftools (0.9.0-0ubuntu1) ... |
| 18:27.15 | l403 | Bushmills, its been like this for some time now (maybe since some update). /etc/.initd/gdm restart wont help anything as far as I know but I can do it now if you want |
| 18:28.06 | anisfarhana | stew: http://pastebin.ws/fr66j3 |
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| 18:30.59 | anisfarhana | stew <---- GENIUS!!! |
| 18:31.11 | anisfarhana | what an uber geek |
| 18:31.35 | abrotman | ask him about bluetooth! |
| 18:31.49 | stew | i don't want to know why document management software in php depends on automake1.4 |
| 18:32.13 | anisfarhana | stew: took me almost 15 hours to solve the swftools! |
| 18:32.32 | anisfarhana | I would like to flirt with genius uber geek! |
| 18:32.33 | anisfarhana | ducks |
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| 18:33.55 | stew | it was worth the effort though. no reason to let debian tell you that software is too buggy or too much of a security problem when you can just force install another version which was recompiled to be compatible with some other distro instead of debian!! |
| 18:34.37 | anisfarhana | stew: i don't have options here sir. |
| 18:34.52 | stew | and no i'm not a genius uber geek for suggesting "if there are missing dependencies, try installing them" :) |
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| 18:36.02 | anisfarhana | stew: you still an uber geek in my eyes :) |
| 18:36.03 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
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| 18:38.49 | BuggerMe | How can I show (echo) the exit/return codes from apt-get? |
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| 18:39.17 | stew | BuggerMe: in most shells, the return code of the previous command is "echo $?" |
| 18:39.39 | BuggerMe | ty |
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| 18:42.25 | anisfarhana | 55% to go |
| 18:42.29 | anisfarhana | I can't wait |
| 18:43.17 | l403 | Bushmills, stew http://pastebin.com/H2EKDSzz |
| 18:45.01 | gandhijee | hey, is there an init script where i can put my own stuff that starts after the normal debian start up? |
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| 18:48.26 | anisfarhana | stew: Did you know about squid on deb ? |
| 18:49.41 | stew | gandhijee: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 18:49.51 | stew | anisfarhana: if you have a real question, just ask the channel |
| 18:50.03 | gandhijee | thanks |
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| 18:50.37 | anisfarhana | I have squid installed on debian machine , the url filtering works well..except for https://www.facebook.com |
| 18:51.15 | anisfarhana | I see lots of people discussing about it on squid forum too. |
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| 18:51.38 | anisfarhana | If anyone have good idea how to block only https://www.facebook.com on squid , please let me know. |
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| 18:53.42 | BuggerMe | Is there a way I can test if "apt-get update" hit all repositories. Specifically I want to know of the command was unable to find any repository and/or retrieve any update information. |
| 18:54.00 | anomaly | is there no a way to install just apache? when I do a apt-get, I get python/mysql and a few others. |
| 18:54.02 | anomaly | not* |
| 18:54.47 | peterrooney | BuggerMe: yes, by just running it. by default, it provides much information about what it's doing. |
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| 18:55.27 | peterrooney | BuggerMe: mine occasionally complains about inaccessible mirrors |
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| 18:56.38 | BuggerMe | peterrooney: My intention is to attempt to write an unattended install script for a project I am working on. I would like the script to exit if there is a problem with any of the repositories. |
| 18:56.42 | anomaly | anyone? |
| 18:56.58 | xand | anomaly: installing apache shouldn't install those other things. |
| 18:57.05 | xand | what package did you install? |
| 18:57.53 | anomaly | xand I did "apt-get install apache2" and it wanted to install those extra packages. |
| 18:58.49 | xand | anomaly: er well... that shouldn't happen |
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| 18:59.06 | anomaly | xand http://pastebin.com/NWC59AJq |
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| 18:59.51 | themill | BuggerMe: take care that you're not inventing the wheel here; but yes, the apt-get update exit status is non-zero on error |
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| 19:04.14 | anomaly | xand I mostly use *bsd for my servers.. was testing out debian. so, it is most likely my ignorance than debian. just making certain, though. |
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| 19:05.05 | xand | anomaly: I don't know why it's doing that unless it already wanted to install them from something else |
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| 19:06.00 | anomaly | xand I will keep tinkering then. thanks all the same. I am only attempting apache at this point from a fresh install.. nothing else. |
| 19:06.26 | jrjr | Just thought I would let everyone know that I installed MEPIS, and this link http://www.linwik.com/wiki/using+the+realtek+8172+and+8192se+wireless+controller+with+ubuntu+9.10 allowed me to get my wireless working no problem. I am running a Thinkpad L412, fyi. |
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| 19:09.13 | anomaly | on another note.. I have a script that runs on my other servers to pull down security updates. if apt-get update/grade checks for new security fixes and installs them.. could not a similar script be used to --assume-yes then I can cron said security checks.. or is there a more eloquent solution? |
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| 19:11.53 | _fliXR- | im trying to burn a dvd with brasero (worked weeks ago...) no it crashes and produces the following output: |
| 19:11.56 | _fliXR- | syslog:Nov 2 19:58:06 blackbox kernel: [ 247.019694] brasero[4319]: segfault at 0 ip 7fee9dcc7af2 sp 7fff3bad69c8 error 4 in libc-2.7.so[7fee9dc4d000+14a000] |
| 19:13.19 | karlpinc | anomaly: cron-apt does this or see: http://pastebin.com/05RLgHf8 |
| 19:15.46 | karlpinc | anomaly: Note that if you use the latter you want to put things like glibc6 and linux-image on hold with aptitude because, basically, they require a reboot anyway. |
| 19:17.47 | karlpinc | anomaly: See also "aptitude -R" for minimally installing packages. |
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| 19:30.03 | ViZtRo | hi i've just installed lenny and after a recomended apt-get autoremove i ended without X ,,, how can i restore the system ??? i did apt-get install xorg gnomne-core but after rebooting the console is the only interface that i get |
| 19:30.23 | tau | i have two machines running linux. i want to share some files between them. how must i proceed ? |
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| 19:33.41 | ViZtRo | dpkg-reconfigure xorg won't work either |
| 19:35.20 | anomaly | karlpinc I prefer apt, have not messed with aptitude yet.. but thank you for the aide |
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| 19:35.44 | tau | i am having problems with xorg. |
| 19:35.57 | tau | i tried to change from lenny to squeeze. |
| 19:36.02 | tau | and it got broken. |
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| 19:36.23 | tau | now i am trying to make a backup of files cause i'm gonna install sequeeze from cd. |
| 19:36.37 | tau | ViZtRo: how can i make xorg be reconfigured totally ? |
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| 19:37.21 | simonrvn | ViZtRo: you're going about it the wrong way.... you want something like xdm, gdm, kdm or such. |
| 19:37.52 | simonrvn | tau: move the xorg.conf away |
| 19:37.54 | ViZtRo | i don't know i'm asking too ..... after a apt-get autoremove i ended with a nice bare console machine |
| 19:38.26 | sc30317 | does anyone know why my Netinstall wouldn't work? I setup a mirror (that I am trying to install from) and I get the following error: |
| 19:38.27 | simonrvn | helps if the askers don't quit ... |
| 19:38.32 | ViZtRo | apt-get said "unnecesary packages" .. |
| 19:38.42 | anomaly | this stable only offers apache2. is there an archive respository so I can run 1.3? |
| 19:38.45 | sc30317 | WARNING **: mirror does not support the specified release (lenny) |
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| 19:38.53 | sc30317 | when I definitely have the lenny release on the mirror |
| 19:38.55 | abrotman | anomaly: abandoned upstream, don't do it |
| 19:39.07 | petern_ | hmm, how does one use the dbg gstreamer packages? |
| 19:40.01 | anomaly | abrotman I am not a fan of 2. if security.debian.org does not follow it, I will just see about lighthttpd or something then. |
| 19:40.34 | simonrvn | anomaly: "abandoned upstream": do you not get that? |
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| 19:41.14 | petern_ | oh... supposed to be automatically used. hmm. |
| 19:41.28 | anomaly | simonrvn apparently not. if you must be rude. |
| 19:41.43 | ViZtRo | problem solved : apt-get install gdm && reboot |
| 19:41.56 | anomaly | if apache1.3 is not available, I will just not run 2 was my point and go with another solution. |
| 19:42.06 | dondelelcaro | anomaly: why do you want to run apache 1.3? |
| 19:42.17 | ViZtRo | sorry for bothering you with silly questions |
| 19:42.40 | anomaly | dondelecaro familiarity. I do not care for the structure of the .conf files and such with 2 as well. |
| 19:43.13 | anomaly | I do not need php, sql or other such. the servers I manage are primarily text based, linking to repos and thelike. |
| 19:43.15 | dondelelcaro | anomaly: nothing has changed. The configuration files are still parsed in exactly the same manner, it's just that we've changed the packaging to be more flexible |
| 19:43.20 | simonrvn | anomaly: i wasn't being rude. |
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| 19:44.34 | anomaly | simonrvn I do not desire an argument. I did not understand what "abandoned upstream" refers to in debian, yet to compound that with making out like I should get it without an explanation can be construed as rude. no worries, however. :) |
| 19:45.03 | dondelelcaro | anomaly: it means that upstream doesn't support 1.3 at all anymore. That means no security fixes, etc. |
| 19:45.34 | stew | anomaly: upstream meaning apache.org, the place where debian gets it from. they have abandoned it, they are no longer supporting it |
| 19:46.07 | anomaly | dondelecaro as I had said previously, it is most likely my ignorance with debian. I looked to try apachectl start/configtest none of which returned a file association. and then my /etc/apache2/httpd.conf was blank.. so I was a bit lost there :) |
| 19:46.25 | anomaly | stew/dondelecaro thank you for the explanation on that. |
| 19:46.37 | dondelelcaro | anomaly: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is not the configuration file. /etc/apache2/apache2.conf is, and it loads everything else. |
| 19:46.53 | dondelelcaro | anomaly: and apachectl isn't what you use; you use the init script directly |
| 19:47.30 | stew | anomaly: for configtest, you can use apache2ctl configtest |
| 19:47.44 | anomaly | stew yes.. that would make sense :) |
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| 19:48.08 | anomaly | dondelecaro I will just read up on apache2 and debian, than use more of your time here in a remedial course :) |
| 19:48.17 | anomaly | I thank you both for your help. |
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| 19:51.32 | l403 | Hello. I get these errors with al lot of applications that is probably preventing only some of them to start Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-f9whMJtLWJ: Connection refused) what should I do to check what is wrong? I am on Debian Squeeze using fluxbox. I have no ~/.dbus directory but dbus is running. http://pastebin.com/H2EKDSzz |
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| 19:54.33 | xyan | l403: export exactly those vars dbus-launch tells you |
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| 19:55.04 | xyan | l403: you correctly noticed that env says something else then dbus-launch |
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| 19:55.08 | xyan | than* |
| 19:55.16 | simonrvn | anomaly: ok. it means that the upstream (people maintaining the software in unpackaged form) isn't doing anything with it anymore, maybe even not patching it for security updates (though they probably are to a limited extent in this case) |
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| 19:56.25 | anomaly | simonrvn which is fine. I can go with something like lighthttpd in that case. |
| 19:57.06 | simonrvn | anomaly: i had the impression you understood. my bad. |
| 19:57.19 | stew | no, they are not updating it anymore |
| 19:57.34 | stew | "Apache httpd 1.3.42 is the final stable version of the 1.3 series, which was released and declared end of life on February 2nd, 2010. No further development or maintenance will occur for the 1.3 series" |
| 19:57.54 | l403 | xyan, that was not my idea. but I thought dbus-launch just creates a different session with a different id |
| 19:57.54 | stew | "Use the Apache httpd 1.3.42 version only if you must use a third party module that is not available as an httpd 2.x module" |
| 19:58.15 | simonrvn | stew: ah ok. thanks for info |
| 19:58.22 | simonrvn | aah |
| 19:59.10 | l403 | xyan, env has the same id no matter what but dbus-launch prints a different one each time run |
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| 20:00.06 | xyan | l403: yeah means it didnt get exported correctly, other than that it should create a ~/.dbus/session-bus/<id> file |
| 20:02.11 | xyan | l403: does gthumb work after something like that "for i in `dbus-launch` ;do export $i ;done" ? |
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| 20:03.42 | l403 | xyan, I am sorry, I get bash: export: `dbus-launch': not a valid identifier |
| 20:04.05 | xyan | er dont copy and paste :) use correct backticks please |
| 20:04.11 | xyan | or $(dbus-launch) |
| 20:05.05 | l403 | oh, sorry |
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| 20:06.21 | l403 | xyan, it does not spit the gconf stuff I thought was preventing it from starting. now it segfaults :) |
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| 20:07.13 | xyan | l403: hehe how nice.. uhm also make sure to stop all the launched dbus sessions and see if it gets any better |
| 20:07.24 | xyan | if it still segfaults it might be related to something else |
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| 20:08.22 | xyblor | what mp3 encoding library am I supposed to use on debian? |
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| 20:08.56 | l403 | oops |
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| 20:09.12 | l403 | pkill threw down xchat also |
| 20:09.22 | xyan | hehe |
| 20:09.59 | l403 | now I get the dbus error again |
| 20:10.59 | l403 | now I exported the DBUS variables and it segfaults again |
| 20:11.07 | rudi_s | xyblor: lame (if you want a program), but that's in non-free AFAIK. |
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| 20:11.33 | xyblor | rudi_s: yes, that's the problem. I guess I should add debian-multimedia to my sources list |
| 20:11.44 | xyan | l403: hrm kill the processes, do a /etc/init.d/dbus restart and try again (without exporting at first) |
| 20:12.17 | rudi_s | xyblor: Ah, right could be there as well. |
| 20:12.24 | l403 | xyan, just restart dbus or should I kill everything using it also (that includes fluxbox) |
| 20:12.29 | rudi_s | !tell xyblor about multimedia |
| 20:13.14 | xyan | l403: well the cleaner the better, probably a good idea to shutdown x and to do the restart from a vt |
| 20:14.03 | l403 | xyan I did /etc/init.d/gdm restart before I came inhere and it did not help anything |
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| 20:15.33 | xyan | well yeah ok then, you could at the for loop thing to your ~/.fluxbox/startup file to get rid of that at least |
| 20:15.52 | xyan | not sure about the segfault, maybe strace will help you there |
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| 20:28.20 | xchat | anyone here running full experimental? just curious |
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| 20:28.56 | nsadmin | I don't even think that's possible |
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| 20:29.56 | xchat | nsadmin, unstable + most pkgs from experimental really |
| 20:30.30 | stew | xchat: it doesn't make sense |
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| 20:31.12 | nsadmin | many of those packages are broken in some way |
| 20:31.40 | nsadmin | in many cases, it's the packaging itself... can't install, or can't remove, or can't upgrade |
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| 20:32.48 | xchat | interesting |
| 20:33.32 | nsadmin | the phrase "run experimental" doesn't make sense in the same way "run unstable" does |
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| 20:36.35 | nsadmin | experimental is a place where devs can put packages they're working on for the purpose of having other devs help, either by testing or by reviewing the code or the packaging or by assisting with coding |
| 20:37.51 | nsadmin | I can see the attraction tho... you want to be able to say "Yeah, I run experimental... because I'm like that..." |
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| 20:38.52 | amee2k | does deb4 install/run on 32 MB RAM? |
| 20:39.03 | amee2k | all i want it to do is be a serial terminal |
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| 20:39.29 | nsadmin | the requirements should be in the release notes |
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| 20:39.45 | amee2k | requirements are on thing. what runs is another ;) |
| 20:39.55 | amee2k | i want it to run, not to be specced as running |
| 20:40.01 | xyan | i remember to have read about 256m minimum |
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| 20:40.45 | stew | amee2k: 48 to run the installer, it will run on 32 |
| 20:40.56 | amee2k | good :) |
| 20:40.58 | stew | amee2k: you can install without using the installer, by doing something like debootstrap |
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| 20:41.11 | xyan | !emdebian |
| 20:41.11 | dpkg | Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:41.19 | amee2k | yuck |
| 20:41.19 | binbrain | which part of the package building process copies whats in <package>/debian/<package/{bin,etc}.. into the real locations? |
| 20:41.29 | amee2k | i looked into this embdebian stuff a while ago |
| 20:41.35 | amee2k | couldn't get it to run |
| 20:42.01 | binbrain | I can't figure out why my <package>.install script isn't doing anything |
| 20:42.19 | xyan | i dont know about its state, but played around with buildroot which seems pretty mature |
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| 20:44.40 | stew | binbrain: what do you mean by "the real locations"? dh_install is the script which consumes pacakgename.install |
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| 20:46.08 | binbrain | stew: so my files in <package>.install are getting put into <package>/debian/<package>/bin. However, actually installing the package doesn't put them in /bin |
| 20:47.00 | binbrain | so I was wonder if because I'm doing postinst and preinst scripts if I need to actually take care of copying the files to their final locations or something |
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| 20:48.58 | stew | binbrain: then dh_builddeb should be building the deb |
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| 20:49.06 | stew | binbrain: and no, you don't need to copy files in the postinst |
| 20:49.25 | binbrain | yeah, that's what I thought, I can't figure out what's failing |
| 20:49.36 | stew | binbrain: do you want to post your debian/rules? |
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| 20:53.33 | binbrain | stew: nothing to my rules file, its basically "Packaging Python modules with CDBS" at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/CDBS |
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| 20:54.13 | binbrain | I can post it though, what's that url again? |
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| 20:54.36 | stew | paste.debian.net but if its cdbs, I'll probably not be much help |
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| 20:56.13 | stew | binbrain: perhaps you could look at packages in dpmt that build-dep on cdbs for hints: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/ |
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| 20:57.00 | binbrain | thanks stew, that's a good link, I'll spend some time with it |
| 20:57.43 | adrian_kx | hi guys |
| 20:58.05 | adrian_kx | anyone install ati catalyst on 2.6.36 kernel |
| 20:58.06 | adrian_kx | ? |
| 20:58.11 | adrian_kx | i get a compile error |
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| 20:59.26 | abrotman | adrian_kx: there is no 2.6.36 kernel in Debian |
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| 20:59.43 | abrotman | adrian_kx: or maybe ask #ati |
| 20:59.59 | adrian_kx | well i compiled it for source |
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| 21:00.38 | abrotman | okay .. it's still not in Debian .. and i suspect you're also using the ati .run file .. doesn't seem like much of a Debian problem |
| 21:01.00 | Xinux | Hi abrotman |
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| 21:02.32 | drowe | Hi - I'm trying to work with a Debian host, with Xen. Haven't gotten to a domU installation yet, because when I boot into the Xen kernel, it hangs with an Xorg process. ATI graphics card - any ideas? More places to look for diagnosing the problem? |
| 21:04.32 | arcsky | anyone know if there is any powerfull tool like MS netsh, for linux ? |
| 21:05.25 | stew | arcsky: what does netsh do? |
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| 21:06.10 | arcsky | stew: i can see alot of information about IPv6 addresses and networking regarding that |
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| 21:06.45 | tpocra | Every once in a while my mouse buttons completely cease to work and I have to restart gdm for them to functon again... it's SUPER annoying |
| 21:07.01 | stew | arcsky: i don't really know what that means. if you want a tool that tells you a lot of information about your networking, it would be "ip" from the iproute package |
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| 21:07.53 | arcsky | stew: yeah sorry i didnt wrote about ip. ip isnt powerful as netsh |
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| 21:08.42 | themill | arcsky: try defining what you want in terms of what you actually want rather than some other tool that none of us have ever heard of before. |
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| 21:09.29 | stew | arcsky: what can netsh do that ip cannot? |
| 21:10.03 | arcsky | ipv6 destinationcache, prefix polices, potential routers, expire times from Neighbor cache |
| 21:10.07 | arcsky | IPV6 |
| 21:10.37 | xerox1 | hi, how can i force a server to reread the .bashrc of the current user without rebooting? |
| 21:11.20 | stew | xerox1: . .bashrc |
| 21:12.07 | stew | uhh, that's going to either have to be "source .bashrc" or ". ./bashrc". . won't resolve the relative path |
| 21:12.08 | xerox1 | stew: oh man thx, i forgot the first dot... |
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| 21:15.05 | arcsky | stew: how can i find out the differnt expire times for IPv6 in debian/linux |
| 21:15.34 | arcsky | in the source code |
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| 21:17.57 | adrian_kx | ATI Gallium3D anyone used it? |
| 21:18.02 | adrian_kx | its opensource |
| 21:18.38 | klync | can anyone name a pkg whose (pre- or) post-install script modifies an existing file? I'm looking for examples of how this is done.... alternately, if there's a "best practice", i'm all ears :D |
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| 21:19.20 | dondelelcaro | klync: depends on the file |
| 21:19.38 | klync | dondelelcaro: it's for one of our in-house pkgs, but it's /etc/logrotate.d/apache |
| 21:20.00 | dondelelcaro | klync: why don't you just install a different logrotate script? |
| 21:20.25 | klync | dondelelcaro: bc the logs then would get rotated twice, wouldn't they? |
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| 21:20.45 | dondelelcaro | klync: well, if they had the same names, yes. |
| 21:21.05 | klync | ... leading to a set of log files which were being written to for a very short period .... yeah, it's for /var/log/apache2/*.log |
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| 21:22.06 | dondelelcaro | klync: the proper way is to have an interface to modify the file, but since it's an internal file, you can do all sorts of fun things |
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| 21:22.31 | klync | dondelelcaro: i would probably just use sed, myself, and have apache complain about the file being modified when it gets upgraded |
| 21:22.49 | arcsky | stew: themill: i think i found more info in /proc/sys/net/ipv6/ |
| 21:23.01 | dondelelcaro | klync: or you could just remove that configuration file, and create a different one, which would sidestep apache complaining |
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| 21:23.15 | stevejalim | evening all |
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| 21:23.26 | dondelelcaro | klync: the question is exactly how much control you have over these kind of configuration files. [An entirely separate option would be etckeeper or puppet or similar] |
| 21:23.48 | klync | dondelelcaro: puppet would be nice but is *way* outside scope of what we're trying to accomplish today |
| 21:23.51 | klync | :( |
| 21:23.59 | arcsky | its not possible to change values in /proc/net/ipv6.. right ? |
| 21:24.02 | stevejalim | am trying to install solr-tomcat5.5 on lenny, but while the debian site lists the package, apt-get can't find it (even after an update). Any suggestions for possible reasons? |
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| 21:26.12 | dondelelcaro | stevejalim: it's in contrib |
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| 21:29.36 | ravn | hi folks, I'm thinking of getting a dynDNS account and then use ddclient (or similar) to update my settings. But now I'm wondering how does this work behind a gateway the does nat, i.e. the debian host is on a 192.168... local network? |
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| 21:31.03 | anomaly | ravn set up nat to redirect port requests on 80 to that box |
| 21:31.24 | anomaly | if it were a webserver, as an example |
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| 21:32.42 | ravn | anomaly: that's it? I mean, for the updating part. It will not be my router that does the updating of IP-number to dynDNS, it will be a debian bow behind the nat, will that still work? |
| 21:32.51 | ravn | s/bow/box |
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| 21:34.32 | anomaly | ravn the updater can update your ip from any box.. as it goes by your public ip. |
| 21:34.46 | anomaly | the nat only makes sure the 80 request goes to the right box |
| 21:34.59 | ravn | ok, sweet, then I'm set |
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| 21:49.46 | stevejalim | dondelelcaro thanks - got it cheers! |
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| 22:01.12 | jhutchins | Does the usb installer include a partitioner capable of shrinking a windows partition? |
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| 22:08.14 | Jef91 | Anyone know where I can find a minimal disc for debian testing? |
| 22:09.03 | stew | Jef91: http://debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
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| 22:12.11 | Jef91 | Thanks. It goes Stable <- Testing <- Unstable right? |
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| 22:14.55 | stew | Jef91: thats a correct over-simplification, i suppose |
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| 22:16.21 | jhutchins | stew: Does the USB+netinst have the ability to shrink a Win7 partition? |
| 22:16.49 | stew | jhutchins: i don't know |
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| 22:22.05 | darkkrai | I seem to have a weird problem with my internet |
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| 22:22.31 | darkkrai | torrents go at a max speed of about 2m/bs while everything else, irc, iceweasel, etc seems to load things very slowly |
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| 22:24.22 | metalfoo | Well, that's rather normal being on an ADSL line (or similar) |
| 22:24.27 | Bushmills | stop torrent, and try again with other apps |
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| 22:25.18 | metalfoo | Your Torrent Application may consume your upload bandwith and preventing thus your downloads to run fast. |
| 22:25.44 | darkkrai | I'm not running them simultaneously |
| 22:26.01 | darkkrai | I always close transmission when I'm done |
| 22:26.23 | metalfoo | Doesn't matter. You use a P2P application which is hence uploading. |
| 22:26.40 | darkkrai | but it's not running |
| 22:27.22 | metalfoo | Ahm you mean "torrents go fast, $apps never, even when torrent is not running"? |
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| 22:27.39 | darkkrai | yeah |
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| 22:31.08 | metalfoo | I don't see what would cause such a behaviour, as both are using the same TCP stack (even if Torrent may use some UDP) |
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| 22:31.15 | valdyn | darkkrai: look at iptraf or iftop to see if the network is possibly congested |
| 22:31.29 | darkkrai | kk |
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| 22:32.00 | valdyn | darkkrai: transmission actually has a daemon too, thats a feature, to keep running when you close it, not sure if that might be the case for you |
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| 22:33.47 | valdyn | I dont know where there still is no reasonable tc anywhere that is simple to get going |
| 22:35.45 | JasonWoof | less -F should output the (less than a page of) text before exiting right? |
| 22:35.45 | metalfoo | valdyn: Your suggestions are reasonable only if darkkrai would run upload intensive applications like Torrent simultaneously to $iceweaselircmail, he said, he isn't. |
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| 22:37.29 | dutchfish | darkkrai: what lan adapter and what kernel and debian version? |
| 22:37.29 | valdyn | JasonWoof: i dont see -F in the manpage |
| 22:37.53 | darkkrai | 2.6.26-2-amd64 <- kernel |
| 22:38.03 | JasonWoof | valdyn: -F or --quit-if-one-screen Causes less to automatically exit if the entire file can be displayed on the first screen. |
| 22:38.04 | dutchfish | darkkrai: is this e1000 by accident? |
| 22:38.28 | darkkrai | and I'm using a madcatz wireless adapter that hooks up to my computer over ethernet |
| 22:38.39 | darkkrai | Debian Lenny |
| 22:38.44 | dutchfish | darkkrai: ok, nm my noise then |
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| 22:39.50 | dutchfish | darkkrai: one thingy, sometimes decreasing MTU size might help on a wlan adapter |
| 22:40.13 | dutchfish | darkkrai: depends on your uplink |
| 22:41.09 | valdyn | darkkrai: are you going to tell us if iptraf or iftop agree with your assessment that the net is not congested? |
| 22:41.26 | darkkrai | yes |
| 22:41.28 | darkkrai | it is not |
| 22:41.34 | valdyn | darkkrai: ok |
| 22:42.05 | valdyn | darkkrai: ping a site that is slow, is response time ok? |
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| 22:42.44 | darkkrai | around 77-96 ms |
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| 22:45.47 | martinmike2 | hello everybody |
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| 22:46.12 | valdyn | darkkrai: which website is it? |
| 22:46.16 | martinmike2 | I need help with Postfix. I keep getting the error "Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first" |
| 22:46.18 | darkkrai | dutchfish, hwo do I decrease my MTU, is that in my router control panel? |
| 22:46.20 | valdyn | darkkrai: or is google slow too? |
| 22:46.20 | darkkrai | google |
| 22:46.22 | darkkrai | yes |
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| 22:46.27 | JasonWoof | OK, for less -F you should also pass -X |
| 22:46.31 | valdyn | darkkrai: "time wget google.com" |
| 22:47.06 | darkkrai | .9s |
| 22:47.19 | valdyn | darkkrai: not that bad, is that what you mean with slow? |
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| 22:47.29 | valdyn | darkkrai: or was this faster than your webbrowser? |
| 22:47.45 | evilgenius101 | Hi, How can i change the layout to typeable? http://screensnapr.com/u/hmqug3.png i want to be able to type the location myself |
| 22:48.57 | valdyn | darkkrai: i get .1s there, but this could be your dns server just aswell |
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| 22:49.30 | valdyn | darkkrai: try "time wget 209.85.135.103" |
| 22:50.02 | darkkrai | .2s |
| 22:50.18 | valdyn | darkkrai: ok, this could be pure luck too |
| 22:50.59 | valdyn | darkkrai: do a "host google.com" and pick a few ip adresses there, compare the speed wgetting the ip with wgetting the name |
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| 22:51.44 | valdyn | darkkrai: now if your nameserver is consistently slow and that about matches with your "slow" webbrowsing you complained about, you should switch dns server |
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| 22:52.41 | darkkrai | how do I do that? |
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| 22:52.55 | valdyn | darkkrai: run "host google.com" |
| 22:53.02 | darkkrai | did |
| 22:53.10 | valdyn | darkkrai: see the ip adresses? |
| 22:53.25 | darkkrai | yes |
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| 22:53.46 | valdyn | darkkrai: run "time wget ipaddress" for a few of those adresses listed |
| 22:54.43 | darkkrai | .1s for the first one |
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| 22:54.56 | darkkrai | .1s for the 2nd one |
| 22:54.57 | darkkrai | hmm |
| 22:55.04 | valdyn | darkkrai: if those adresses average ~.2s and "time wget google.com" averages .9s, then you should use a different name server |
| 22:55.23 | bla | In default Debian testing Python - is there no ordered dict? |
| 22:55.29 | darkkrai | how do i change my dns? |
| 22:56.47 | stew | bla: no, testing has python 2.6 and ordered dicts were added in 2.7 |
| 22:56.57 | bla | stew, oh. Thanks. |
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| 22:57.50 | valdyn | darkkrai: I cant recommend a good nameserver to you. |
| 22:58.09 | valdyn | darkkrai: its set in /etc/resolv.conf, but read the comment in there if it exists |
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| 22:58.59 | jhutchins_lt | Google for "public dns server" or use google's - I think it's 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:59.20 | valdyn | darkkrai: ping that nameserver first though, no use switching to a slow one |
| 22:59.23 | darkkrai | it's set to 192.168.1.254 right now |
| 22:59.37 | valdyn | darkkrai: thats your internet router |
| 23:00.03 | valdyn | darkkrai: its probably not slow, but its probably relying on a slow "master" |
| 23:00.11 | darkkrai | I see |
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| 23:01.14 | darkkrai | alright, I set it to 8.8.4.4 |
| 23:01.19 | darkkrai | do I reboot? |
| 23:01.26 | valdyn | darkkrai: no |
| 23:01.39 | valdyn | darkkrai: rebooting would reset your old dns server |
| 23:01.47 | darkkrai | oh |
| 23:01.58 | valdyn | darkkrai: you can try now if its better |
| 23:02.32 | darkkrai | a little better |
| 23:02.39 | darkkrai | I'll try moving my router |
| 23:03.17 | martinmike2 | I need help with Postfix. I keep getting the error "Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first" |
| 23:04.06 | valdyn | martinmike2: your smarthost needs authentication? |
| 23:05.36 | martinmike2 | a friend keeps getting the error while replying to an email. I can send just fine, and can receive from gmail account. |
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| 23:14.23 | factran | hi, I'm searching a nice graphical interface for my old pc. (laptop, 15", 512Mo ram) Any idea ? |
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| 23:14.58 | factran | the fastest possible, but I want to be able to go on internet and watch films. |
| 23:15.13 | amphi | factran: any lightweight window manager |
| 23:15.24 | factran | i'm searching for names. |
| 23:15.28 | factran | or lists :) |
| 23:15.32 | amphi | openbox is nice, if you like floating WMs, xmonad is a nice tiling one |
| 23:15.33 | Nai-ux | factran: blackbox is midweight but seems to be lightweight |
| 23:15.34 | blackshirt | factran: i'm with 512 Mb ram too... work well with gnome |
| 23:16.11 | amphi | factran: 'nice' meaning I like them - YMMV ;) |
| 23:16.17 | blackshirt | factran: maybe you happy try xfce, lxde.. it was lightweight wm |
| 23:16.45 | amphi | both those are 'desktop environments', not window managers |
| 23:17.00 | factran | lxde is working fine, yes |
| 23:17.02 | stew | are there really heayweight window managers? |
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| 23:17.04 | Nai-ux | factran: olvwm, windowMaker, enlightenment, mwm, fvwm2, icewm, if you want real tiny try 9wm, pekwm, evilwm or larswm there are others. |
| 23:17.08 | factran | i've got currently this one. |
| 23:17.15 | amphi | stew: compiz ? ;) |
| 23:17.15 | factran | great |
| 23:17.24 | stew | oh, right |
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| 23:17.49 | blackshirt | strew: i think exactly yes..if we compared with kde or gnome |
| 23:17.52 | Nai-ux | factran: http://www.xwinman.org is an ok site. |
| 23:18.02 | amphi | blackshirt: those are not window managers |
| 23:18.06 | stew | blackshirt: no, window managers |
| 23:18.09 | emorris | Hi. I've got a little USB wifi dongle marked as Edimax EW-7711UTn. I think it's basically a Ralink RT2870. It seems to kind of work; I can see it in lsusb and ifconfig, but I can't seem to get it to get an IP address. I've been following http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta . Not sure about the blacklisting part. It seems to get further if I don't blacklist the other driver. Some info at http://paste.debian.net/98900/ . Any help would be much appreciated |
| 23:18.32 | factran | thks everybody |
| 23:18.50 | stew | its not like the difference between openbox or ratpoison or enlightenment or whatever is going to be the difference between 'my machine is too slow' or not |
| 23:19.04 | blackshirt | amphi, stew: i think he is want complete lightweight desktop environtment |
| 23:19.27 | jpinx-eeepc | go for lxde then |
| 23:19.53 | amphi | he hasn't said that, and he has lxde already, the only really light DE as far as I know |
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| 23:22.43 | blackshirt | amphi: i think xfce was not too bad for ligthweight dm |
| 23:23.07 | amphi | it's not very light these days, from what I hear |
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| 23:23.27 | amphi | but I don't use a DE, so that's just gossip ;) |
| 23:23.44 | metalfoo | console purist? |
| 23:23.55 | amphi | no, standalone wm |
| 23:24.11 | metalfoo | They rarely come without DE these days |
| 23:24.13 | amphi | although I find myself in terms much of the time ;) |
| 23:24.28 | metalfoo | At least sort of |
| 23:24.32 | amphi | metalfoo: eh? there are endless window managers, and what, four DEs ? |
| 23:25.40 | metalfoo | Fulle blown DEs only 2, and another 2 or so somewhat limited. But Window Manager as in "Window Manager only" won't even hold for things like Fluxbox (last time I looked at it) |
| 23:25.53 | amphi | sometimes I feel I am almost the last person left who hasn't written a WM ;) |
| 23:26.21 | amphi | metalfoo: why not? not that I've seen fb in ages |
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| 23:26.33 | blackshirt | amphi: i have try xfce on my debian system..it works smoothly.. |
| 23:27.07 | amphi | I dare say, but eating lots of tasting RAM that programs you run could otherwise use |
| 23:28.00 | amphi | blackshirt: xmonad here is using 10MB ATM - that is quite light IMHO |
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| 23:28.55 | metalfoo | amphi: Because even Fluxbox has some minimalistic Desktop features (like menus, docking bars, wallpapers and so on). Of course its nothing compared to KDE and friends. |
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| 23:29.28 | amphi | you are being very purist ;) |
| 23:29.44 | stew | mine seems to use 35mb |
| 23:29.50 | blackshirt | amphi: i think it was not realistic compare |
| 23:30.05 | metalfoo | Well, you were the one who stated not to run a DE but a WM only (which one by the way?) |
| 23:30.24 | amphi | xmonad, which I think even you would admit was a WM ;) |
| 23:30.43 | eli_ | found this under the news section in debian.org "Debian to officially welcome non-packaging contributors". Does this mean that we will se firefox in Deabin? |
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| 23:31.42 | metalfoo | Don't know that one, but from what I read: Yes, I probably would ;) |
| 23:31.50 | amphi | metalfoo: IMHO, a DE must provide rather more than *box, but I take your point that they do more than just manage windows |
| 23:32.01 | stew | eli_: definately not. it means that we encourage the people in charge of membership in debian to go ahead with their plan to include people in debian that don't create debian packages |
| 23:32.06 | themill | eli_: that's not the issue that was being discussed. |
| 23:32.23 | amphi | metalfoo: it doesn't even change the cursor from the default X ;) |
| 23:32.49 | metalfoo | Definitions may be somewhat hard here, I agree so far. |
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| 23:34.22 | stew | eli_: realized that we already have firefox, its just renamed in debian as "iceweasel" as debian has been forbidden from using the "firefox" trademark |
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| 23:34.32 | stew | ^realized^realize |
| 23:34.38 | Jef91 | Anyone know if debian has an lxdm package somewhere? Using debian testing |
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| 23:35.55 | Nai-ux | firefox is horrible, google toolbar thing went to chrome:// proto the other day because of the google widget in there, without me even being connected to the net |
| 23:36.05 | Nai-ux | or touching anything |
| 23:36.59 | edju | I'm having trouble setting up dhcpd manually, so I'm trying gadmin-dhcpd. I get an error msg - "ISC DHCPD is ... not in your path". Perhaps the dumb question of the month - path to what? |
| 23:37.32 | amphi | edju: $PATH - the list of directories in which your shell looks for executable files |
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| 23:37.54 | amphi | edju: 'echo $PATH' in your terminal will show you what it is currently |
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| 23:38.23 | edju | amphi, yes, I know - but what has to be in the path in order to clear that error? |
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| 23:38.38 | sivang | hi all |
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| 23:38.57 | martinmike2 | my postfix was setup automatically when I installed virtualmin, now some mail clients report an error "Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first", im not sure what to do to correct his, any ideas? |
| 23:38.59 | sivang | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576383 is closed but was not backported to lenny? |
| 23:39.08 | eli_ | hehehe okej thanks for the answers D |
| 23:39.13 | amphi | edju: the directory where the binary you want to run is, I guess |
| 23:39.38 | sivang | martinmike2: you maybe need to set TLS to be used by the clients |
| 23:40.04 | stew | sivang: its reported against a package that isn't in lenny |
| 23:40.17 | blackshirt | ampi: can you help me ?? |
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| 23:40.41 | amphi | blackshirt: with what? |
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| 23:40.49 | amphi | (if you mean me) |
| 23:41.11 | stew | martinmike2: can you pastebin the output of "postconf -n" ? |
| 23:41.16 | sivang | stew: ah okay, what would be needed to get it into lenny? :) |
| 23:41.30 | blackshirt | do you know about split access ?? i have two mobile broadband connection.. i want to split access and load balancing them |
| 23:41.47 | amphi | blackshirt: nothing at all, I'm afraid |
| 23:42.09 | stew | blackshirt: I believe it might not be possible if both interfaces have the same ptp address |
| 23:42.20 | themill | sivang: looks quite backportable; /msg dpkg ssb |
| 23:42.26 | stew | sivang: a time machine. lenny was frozen in 2008 |
| 23:42.46 | stew | sivang: but see themill's answer, yes |
| 23:42.51 | blackshirt | amphi: no, it from difference provider |
| 23:43.11 | stew | blackshirt: /msg dpkg split access |
| 23:43.15 | sivang | stew: k, thanks |
| 23:43.43 | blackshirt | stew: thanks, i had read your links guide |
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| 23:44.17 | sivang | thanks themill |
| 23:44.22 | martinmike2 | stew http://pastebin.com/JTgiRxa7 |
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| 23:46.04 | stew | martinmike2: its because of smtpd_tls_security_level = encrypt |
| 23:46.16 | stew | martinmike2: see http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html for more info |
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| 23:47.49 | emorris | Anyone got any ideas about this?: I've got a little USB wifi dongle marked as Edimax EW-7711UTn. I think it's basically a Ralink RT2870. It seems to kind of work; I can see it in lsusb and ifconfig, but I can't seem to get it to get an IP address. I've been following http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta . Not sure about the blacklisting part. It seems to get further if I don't blacklist the other driver. Some info at http://paste.debian.net/98900/ . Tha |
| 23:47.49 | emorris | nks |
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| 23:48.51 | martinmike2 | thnx stew, trying again |
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| 23:53.48 | Diytto | Hey |
| 23:53.54 | Diytto | Does debian support airport cards |
| 23:54.02 | Diytto | Once it is installed |
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| 23:55.26 | amphi | aren't they just ordinary broadcom cards? |
| 23:55.35 | Diytto | Yea i believe so |
| 23:55.43 | icebrain | !airport |
| 23:55.43 | dpkg | AirPort is a wireless brand from Apple Inc. For support of the original AirPort Card (802.11b), ask me about <orinoco>. For support of AirPort Extreme (802.11g) cards, ask me about <b43>. For support of integrated AirPort Extreme 802.11a/b/g and /n devices, ask me about <what's my hardware>, then ask about either <ath5k>, <ath9k> (Atheros), <b43> or <wl> (Broadcom). |
| 23:55.46 | Diytto | Do i need any special drivers? |
| 23:56.09 | sivang | stew: can I ask it to be built on debian-backports? |
| 23:56.10 | Diytto | I have the original one |
| 23:56.13 | Diytto | The b |
| 23:56.28 | nsadmin | are you presently running linux Diytto |
| 23:56.28 | Diytto | !orincoc |
| 23:56.29 | icebrain | Diytto: then /msg dpkg orinoco |
| 23:56.38 | Diytto | !orinoco |
| 23:56.38 | dpkg | [orinoco] a driver for 802.11b devices based on Hermes I and Spectrum24 Trilogy chipsets (previously Prism 2/2.5/3, disabled by default since Linux 2.6.35 in favor of <hostap>). WPA support for Hermes added in Linux 2.6.28 (firmware v9.42 or later required), see http://wiki.debian.org/orinoco for more details. Installing the hostap-utils package will blacklist this driver. For Orinoco USB device support, ask me about <orinoco usb>. |
| 23:56.45 | Diytto | nsadmin: No |
| 23:56.46 | Diytto | Osx |
| 23:56.52 | Diytto | I need to install it |
| 23:56.53 | sivang | hmm, battery dying . I have to close |
| 23:57.13 | stew | sivang: you could see if you could find someone to volunteer to backport it that way. it should be easy to backport yourself however |
| 23:57.16 | Diytto | It would be gereat if i could install the driver for the netinst and use wifi to download |
| 23:57.51 | nsadmin | does it also have a wired eth? |
| 23:58.07 | Diytto | Yes |
| 23:58.18 | Diytto | But wifi is far easier and same download speed |
| 23:58.19 | Diytto | :/ |
| 23:58.22 | nsadmin | so potentially you have a choice |
| 23:58.36 | shiloh20 | can anyone point me to a way to install the non free nvidia dirvers? |
| 23:58.47 | nsadmin | !nvidia |
| 23:58.47 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 23:58.51 | Jef91 | Anyone know if there is a .deb for LXDM on debian somewhere? |
| 23:59.06 | shiloh20 | tyvm |
| 23:59.06 | Diytto | nsadmin: Can i install a driver in the installer? |
| 23:59.18 | Diytto | To use the wifi card to dl the netinst |
