| 00:00.20 | Rienzilla | uhm |
| 00:00.23 | Rienzilla | can you manually start it? |
| 00:00.54 | ShapeShifter499 | nvm I got it |
| 00:00.59 | NoReflex | Rienzilla, i tried it : mdadm --assemble --scan /dev/md0 -> mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md0 |
| 00:01.01 | ShapeShifter499 | thanks google :D |
| 00:01.55 | NoReflex | Rienzilla, the drives seem ok : mdadm --examine /dev/sdd gives: http://pastebin.com/AWcS5eSD |
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| 00:02.26 | Rienzilla | what does /proc/mdstat containt? |
| 00:02.34 | Rienzilla | -t |
| 00:02.47 | NoReflex | Rienzilla, also /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf has ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid10 num-devices=4 metadata=00.90 UUID=2fd94a6f:892cd166:c348c8af:891aaf16 devices=/dev/sdc,/dev/sdd,/dev/sde,/dev/sdf |
| 00:03.06 | NoReflex | Rienzilla, mdstat -> Personalities : [raid10] unused devices: <none> |
| 00:03.41 | Vorbote | ShapeShifter499: The rhytmbox library is an XML library in /.gnome2/rhythmbox. Edit out what you need and you'll be fine. |
| 00:04.06 | Rienzilla | hmmok |
| 00:04.18 | ShapeShifter499 | Vorbote, all ready got it thanks |
| 00:05.21 | Rienzilla | and mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdc /dev/sdd...? |
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| 00:05.36 | ShapeShifter499 | Vorbote, got it through google just ran "rm -rf ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/*" and I'm good |
| 00:05.41 | intx | something is causing my linux computer to lag a lot |
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| 00:05.57 | intx | but load averages are 0.00 0.00 0.00 |
| 00:06.44 | NoReflex | Rienzilla, putting the drives on the command line seems to have done it -> md0 : active raid10 sdc[0] sdf[3] sde[2] sdd[1] |
| 00:06.44 | NoReflex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.02 | NoReflex | but what do I do about starting it automatically on boot? |
| 00:07.16 | Rienzilla | uhm |
| 00:07.29 | Rienzilla | I think for that to work you have to put the drivers in an initramfs |
| 00:07.42 | Rienzilla | usually, debian (update-initramfs iirc) should take care of that for you |
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| 00:11.21 | karlpinc | intx: Have you looked at vmstat to see cpu and IO load? Are you swapping? |
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| 00:13.53 | NoReflex | Rienzilla, I removed raid10 from /etc/modules and did update-initramfs -u but that did not change the fact that the array does not start on boot |
| 00:14.03 | intx | karlpinc: swpd shows 0 |
| 00:16.12 | intx | r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa |
| 00:16.12 | intx | 1 0 492 6408 73124 33744 0 0 0 7 11 12 23 7 69 0 |
| 00:16.28 | Rienzilla | NoReflex: I;m not sure how to solve that, sorry |
| 00:16.33 | intx | sorry wrong machine |
| 00:16.41 | intx | procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu---- |
| 00:16.41 | intx | r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa |
| 00:16.41 | intx | 0 0 0 31004 97324 2638132 0 0 22 6 18 19 0 0 100 0 |
| 00:16.46 | qq- | intx, use pastebin |
| 00:16.49 | intx | sorry |
| 00:17.06 | intx | http://weirdlag.pastebin.com/FM9RTP5R |
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| 00:17.21 | marcello_ | NoReflex: when you modprobe the kernel module do you see anyting in dmesg after that ? |
| 00:17.33 | NoReflex | Rienzilla, np ... at least I got it to start manually- thank you |
| 00:18.28 | NoReflex | does update-initramfs generate an image with the curent loaded modules? |
| 00:18.42 | evilgeenius | I want to create a full backup of my debian system running on a vps. What folders do i need to backup? Id like to just use rsync. Id like to be able to restore my backed up debian system onto a fresh debian vps machine. Is this possible? |
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| 00:20.06 | marcello_ | evilgeenius: you need to backup everything but what is listed here |
| 00:20.09 | marcello_ | http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/fineprint.html |
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| 00:20.41 | marcello_ | plus reinstall grub on your new vps |
| 00:21.45 | evilgeenius | marcello_: I am using linode, and it takes just a couple of minutes to launch a fresh debian instance. |
| 00:22.13 | evilgeenius | The rdiff-backup just seems to backup / |
| 00:22.18 | evilgeenius | Is that not too much? |
| 00:22.55 | marcello_ | evilgeenius: well how can we know where YOU put your important stuff ? |
| 00:23.11 | evilgeenius | good point |
| 00:23.23 | evilgeenius | marcello_: have you used it to backup a whole system? |
| 00:23.46 | marcello_ | no I use amanda |
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| 00:23.56 | NoReflex | Rienzilla, marcello_ it did not want to start on boot because the UUID in mdadm changed - I generated it again and it works now; thank you guys |
| 00:24.06 | Rienzilla | ok good |
| 00:24.10 | Rienzilla | np |
| 00:24.17 | marcello_ | but I was showing this link to have a list of folder which you don't need to pbackup / /proc and stuff like that ) |
| 00:24.44 | marcello_ | NoReflex: was it HW raid ? |
| 00:25.22 | NoReflex | marcello_, software |
| 00:25.56 | marcello_ | I thought UUID was supposed to prevent this kind of pb precisely ... |
| 00:26.16 | marcello_ | is suspicious with UUID |
| 00:27.10 | evilgeenius | marcello_: so amanda can perform full system backups that can be easily restored? |
| 00:27.31 | jhutchins | Still stuck on getting a live USB image. |
| 00:28.31 | marcello_ | if you are an organization Amanda is good |
| 00:29.01 | marcello_ | if you are on you own use backup-manager |
| 00:29.14 | marcello_ | or apt-cache search ... |
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| 00:31.43 | tharkun | Good evening i need to bulk migrate from Mandriva to Debian a server with a bunch of users. Is there a way to migrate paswords or the shadow file per line sytax is distribution dependant? |
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| 00:37.46 | jhutchins | Ok. reinstall and blow f'in windows away. |
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| 00:38.01 | dvs | yeah |
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| 00:40.05 | rpgdude | what is the best way to setup ssh-agent? |
| 00:40.11 | jhutchins | tharkun: Distribution independent. |
| 00:40.24 | rpgdude | i want to ssh to my server without needing password |
| 00:40.41 | jhutchins | tharkun: The only difference is where the user ID numbers start by default, and a little search-and-replace trickery can fix that. |
| 00:41.04 | jhutchins | tharkun: A for loop can handle creating home directories. |
| 00:41.13 | tharkun | jhutchins: I figured as much, i only had the doubt about the passwords |
| 00:41.39 | jhutchins | tharkun: Should be no problem. I stripped out the system accounts. Don't forget to do groups as well. |
| 00:41.41 | tharkun | or to be technically correct the encrypted form of the passwords ;P |
| 00:41.59 | tharkun | jhutchins: thx, i had completely forgotten about them |
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| 00:42.13 | jhutchins | Old hacker's trick: cut and past the hash of a known password to the desired account. |
| 00:42.19 | rpgdude | shouldn't logging into gnome start the ssh agent as part of the session? |
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| 00:43.50 | tharkun | rpgdude: ssh daemon starts when system fires up. The ssh agent also, but you need to provide the matching passwords the first time you use each key |
| 00:43.54 | tharkun | afaik |
| 00:44.50 | rpgdude | doesnt gnome have like gnome-keyring or something? |
| 00:45.00 | tharkun | jhutchins: I'll play with that first, then i will put the right ones in place. Thx for the trick |
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| 00:45.46 | jhutchins | tharkun: The bash rc files are a little different, but it's pretty easy to tweak them. |
| 00:48.05 | tharkun | jhutchins: hmm I'm a nice guy, i won't leave anyone behind but i will not port customizations from one distro to another. I plan on leaving a mandriva_bashrc file for people to copy their previous customizations. I think that should take care of the majority of the users |
| 00:48.17 | tharkun | s/majority/most/ |
| 00:48.46 | karlpinc | tharkun: It sounds unlikely that the format of the passwd et-al files would be different. |
| 00:49.08 | evilgeenius | Are all these folders ok to backup : /etc /home /bin /dev /sbin /srv /var /lib /opt /selinux /sys /usr . Im about to do a full system backup of my debian box. |
| 00:49.11 | evilgeenius | ? |
| 00:49.52 | jhutchins | tharkun: I have been very happy with the change. |
| 00:50.02 | jhutchins | tharkun: Currently working on an Acer netbook. |
| 00:50.14 | dvs | evilgeenius: /dev is not necessary |
| 00:50.23 | jhutchins | tharkun: Servers have been rock solid. |
| 00:50.28 | amphi | evilgeenius: nor /sys |
| 00:50.29 | evilgeenius | dvs: cheers |
| 00:50.37 | karlpinc | evilgeenius: Depends on what you're using to do the backup. Most backup tools will backup devices as devices and not as their content (and won't backup unix sockets). The only thing you need to worry about is don't backup the virtual filesystems like /proc and /sys. |
| 00:52.00 | jhutchins | and /tmp and /dev |
| 00:52.22 | dvs | i said /dev |
| 00:52.39 | jhutchins | dvs: Yes, you did. |
| 00:52.48 | rpgdude | when i run seahorse, i go to remote menu and the setup ssh menu option is grayed out? |
| 00:52.55 | jhutchins | /dev is populated by udev these days. |
| 00:53.08 | evilgeenius | My worry is that my vps hoster will update their version of debian that you get when you create a fresh instance. Then my backup could cockup |
| 00:53.13 | t3a | in the command xrandr --output $device --mode $mode $where-relative-to-$otherdevice mhat do i fill in for all of the variables if setting up a second screen |
| 00:54.21 | amphi | t3a: xrandr with no args will show the output device names |
| 00:54.51 | t3a | it only shows the one screens name |
| 00:54.59 | t3a | and other info about it |
| 00:55.16 | evilgeenius | shit... i just did a rm * /var/archives in my /etc folder.... |
| 00:55.33 | rpgdude | wait i think i got it |
| 00:56.06 | evilgeenius | totally screwed my vps while trying to back it up.... doh |
| 00:56.43 | tharkun | jhutchins: i've come to expect that from debian |
| 00:57.45 | rpgdude | ok yeah i got it |
| 01:00.46 | jhutchins | So, we'll see what installing "laptop" without "desktop" does. |
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| 01:14.34 | sdk | Heyas all. I'm trying to vncview to a server. With one account, I get the full desktop (I edited the xstartvnc conf) Using another account I get a grey screen with an identical copy of the file I use for teh full desktop. Any ideas why this may be happening? |
| 01:14.59 | sdk | err.. I didn't explain that very clearly.. one sec. |
| 01:15.57 | sdk | I copied the functional xstartvnc file to the second account and then used vncview to try and log in. The log in is successful, but I get a grey screen. |
| 01:16.35 | sdk | Even using the default vncviewer xstartvnc config file I don't get even a terminal, just a blank screen. Any ideas? |
| 01:16.52 | sdk | Hrm.. |
| 01:16.54 | sdk | ping |
| 01:17.15 | sdk | <crickets> |
| 01:17.51 | sdk | Hrm.. I've never seen #debian this silent. Anyone here? |
| 01:18.49 | Rienzilla | tumbleweed |
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| 01:20.18 | sdk | Heh, how do you type the oooooo doodloo music. :) |
| 01:20.33 | Rienzilla | :-) |
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| 01:52.04 | debiantonio | !Squeeze |
| 01:52.05 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. Ask me about <wwsr> for recent updates and see also <testing> <squeeze udev> <squeeze kernel> <lenny->squeeze> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze . The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
| 01:53.19 | debianman | hi, i have a problem with the charset on gnome-terminal on debian, dont show accents and any especial chars, i have configured with LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15, any idea how to fix this? |
| 01:54.02 | abrotman | debiantonio: you can msg the bot |
| 01:54.37 | abrotman | debianman: dpkg-reconfigure locales .. choose a UTF-8 and set that as your default |
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| 01:56.56 | debiantonio | abrotman,use bot for news |
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| 01:57.20 | abrotman | debiantonio: msg the bot, thanks |
| 01:57.39 | abrotman | debianman: and logout/login |
| 01:57.42 | debiantonio | abrotman,i'm very old newbie :) |
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| 01:57.55 | abrotman | debiantonio: it's not funny |
| 01:58.51 | removedb | hello! where can I find recent, updated cross-compiling manual for debian? I need to cross-compile linux kernel. Tried few mans on google but they are quite old and failed. Any help? |
| 01:58.54 | debiantonio | abrotman,but really,i'm find news only |
| 01:59.07 | abrotman | debiantonio: you can still msg the bot, thank you |
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| 02:00.05 | debianman | abrotman, i tryed with en_US es_ES with UTF-8 UTF8 iso88591 iso885915 ISO-8859-1 and ISO-8859-15, but dont work |
| 02:00.43 | debiantonio | abrotman,i make insert news? what? |
| 02:01.08 | abrotman | decides debiantonio cannot speak english |
| 02:01.50 | debiantonio | abrotman,sorry my poor english |
| 02:03.32 | nkuttler | debiantonio: what's your native language? |
| 02:03.46 | debiantonio | PT-BR |
| 02:03.50 | nkuttler | !pt |
| 02:03.50 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 02:04.11 | debiantonio | abrotman, never!!! |
| 02:04.33 | debianman | hahahahha |
| 02:04.35 | debianman | XD |
| 02:04.36 | debiantonio | abrotman,best here! |
| 02:04.49 | abrotman | debiantonio: leave me alone .. i wasn't talking to you .. go away |
| 02:04.55 | debianman | y si mejor hablamos en espaƱol? |
| 02:05.23 | abrotman | english only here |
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| 02:05.32 | abrotman | !es |
| 02:05.32 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 02:06.17 | debiantonio | abrotman,english fine hahahahaha |
| 02:07.01 | debianman | abrotman: i known, i known, is a joke XD |
| 02:07.08 | debiantonio | hahahaha |
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| 02:09.35 | debiantonio | abrotman,sleep guy! |
| 02:09.44 | abrotman | go away |
| 02:10.03 | debiantonio | you too |
| 02:15.12 | debiantonio | abrotman, mala! |
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| 02:15.37 | removedb | this is crazy... why would I always need to use LFS for complicated things? |
| 02:15.43 | abrotman | debiantonio: take a time out, please be more helpful |
| 02:15.46 | removedb | why??? |
| 02:15.54 | abrotman | debiantonio: random garbage in the channel isn't helpful |
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| 02:49.03 | sdk | Hrm, still can't figure out why vncviewer will allow one account to log in with full desktop support, but for the other I get only a grey screen, not even the default terminal. |
| 02:49.20 | sdk | veddy frustrating. |
| 02:50.21 | abrotman | checked .xsession and .xinitrc? does /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager point at anything? |
| 02:51.57 | sdk | I haven't but wouldn't that have an effect if I were logging on at the console also? The console X is just fine. Lemme do a diff just ooc. |
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| 03:03.15 | reynaldo | guys, having problems using testing netinstall |
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| 03:03.28 | reynaldo | all gues well till beyond base system install |
| 03:03.42 | reynaldo | 'mirror does not support specified release squeeze' |
| 03:04.05 | reynaldo | message keeps repeating no matter what mirror I choose |
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| 03:04.19 | reynaldo | even the main us mirror fails with the same error message |
| 03:04.20 | sdk | Ahah, I think I figured it out.. I think I had the account getting the grey screen logged in at the console. While trying to find a solution I bounced the server after an upgrade, and voila, all worked. Two accounts, two |
| 03:04.25 | reynaldo | any ideas on what to try? |
| 03:04.38 | sdk | X logins, one computer. Shaweet! |
| 03:05.05 | reynaldo | http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2010-11/msg00338.html |
| 03:05.14 | yow | hi, i've just made a very serious mistake, I accidentally `rm -f documents/*`. Can anyone tell me how I can recover my files, there are 3 ~300MB files. |
| 03:05.17 | reynaldo | he seems to be having the same problem.. |
| 03:05.39 | reynaldo | yow: first of, unmount that partition if you can |
| 03:06.01 | yow | reynaldo, thx for your prompt reply. yes i can do that right now |
| 03:06.06 | reynaldo | then use some of the hundred seemengly working alternatives to file recovery |
| 03:06.15 | reynaldo | although ext3 is not particulary suited for that task |
| 03:06.29 | yow | reynaldo, yes it's ext3 fs |
| 03:06.35 | reynaldo | I don't remember having ever succed at trying to recover rm'ed data |
| 03:06.42 | yow | reynaldo, so, what should i do after umount the partition? |
| 03:06.46 | reynaldo | but once thing for sure, you need to stop writing to that disck |
| 03:06.48 | reynaldo | disc |
| 03:07.17 | yow | reynaldo, so, is there anyway to recover the files? |
| 03:07.20 | reynaldo | yow: google for some file recovery tool, try it out, repeat till you get what you want |
| 03:07.34 | reynaldo | yow: not a point and shoot way I'm afraid |
| 03:07.46 | reynaldo | once thing/one thing |
| 03:08.04 | sdk | Been looking. Here's one, not straightforward, but makes sense: |
| 03:08.05 | yow | reynaldo, r u absolutely sure i should umount the partition now? perhaps some "cache" data may lost? |
| 03:08.06 | reynaldo | so, anyone here that cand shade some light on my installation problem? |
| 03:08.19 | reynaldo | yow: i'm _sure_ |
| 03:08.27 | reynaldo | you rm'ed from the console? |
| 03:08.54 | yow | reynaldo, since i've asked this question in this room, is that ok if i ask the same question in #freenode channel? |
| 03:09.00 | reynaldo | wonder if debian-installer ppl lurk somewhere around here on Freenode .. |
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| 03:09.09 | sdk | http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html |
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| 03:09.48 | yow | sdk, thx, let me check |
| 03:10.08 | sdk | yow: Yes, unmount immediately. There's no doubt about that. |
| 03:10.10 | reynaldo | sdk: do you by any chance know where i might find debian-installer debs here on Freenode? |
| 03:10.18 | reynaldo | deVs |
| 03:10.27 | reynaldo | I'm quite sure this is an installer bug |
| 03:10.54 | reynaldo | i might attempt at manually altering the sources.list of the /target system but I'm unsure wheteher that would work |
| 03:10.57 | debiantonio | reinaldo,http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ |
| 03:11.04 | yow | sdk & reynaldo, ok, got it, im going to umount it right away |
| 03:11.06 | reynaldo | considering the first stage of that part of the installation overwrites it |
| 03:11.07 | sdk | Hrm.. one sec.. lemme remember.. There was a channel where I know some old timers hang out. thinking. |
| 03:11.10 | reynaldo | (i think) |
| 03:11.20 | reynaldo | debiantonio: Im using the daily build.. |
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| 03:11.48 | debiantonio | reynaldo, Im use stable |
| 03:12.02 | debiantonio | reynaldo, but prefer sid |
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| 03:12.31 | reynaldo | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 03:12.45 | reynaldo | I'm using http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_beta1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-squeeze-di-beta1-amd64-netinst.iso from there |
| 03:12.55 | reynaldo | you can't get anything freshier |
| 03:13.27 | reynaldo | I did a complex manual encrypted lvm setup on a big disc and honestly don't want to start over again |
| 03:13.45 | sdk | reynaldo: Sorry man, I can't remember. I don't suppose you'd consider irc.debian.org server, would you? |
| 03:13.48 | debiantonio | reynaldo,Im use stable amd64, but bios HT off |
| 03:14.06 | reynaldo | sdk: hehe, that's good |
| 03:14.12 | reynaldo | I completely forgot about that |
| 03:14.13 | reynaldo | :D |
| 03:14.37 | reynaldo | debiantonio: you pulling my leg or just talking nonsensing as a hobby? |
| 03:14.38 | reynaldo | :D |
| 03:15.24 | debiantonio | reynaldo, ) |
| 03:15.36 | sdk | Oh, I thought you were being sarcastic. :) There are 403 people in #debian on debian.org. |
| 03:16.22 | reynaldo | not at all |
| 03:16.25 | reynaldo | c'ya folks |
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| 03:16.27 | sdk | And a few I recognize, but none of the really heavy hitters I remember, but I'm out of touch. |
| 03:16.34 | sdk | Peace, and good luck. |
| 03:17.08 | debiantonio | gotohell! |
| 03:17.19 | debiantonio | ) |
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| 03:48.16 | yow | sdk, the http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html is rather long and also I came across 3 other tools, i.e. Photorec, Foremost and SleuthKit. I've unmounted the partition and i'm going to investigate and try to recover the lost data (hopefully) later today. btw, any comments about Photorec, Foremost and SleuthKit? |
| 03:50.54 | yow | sdk, unfortunately, it seems that the data that i've removed accidentally is not in the list of recognisabled file types by Photorec :( |
| 03:51.02 | Nai-ux | sk is recommended by a friend of mine, i messed with it some, i haven't used the other two |
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| 03:51.36 | yow | hi Nai-ux, is sk useful? |
| 03:53.17 | Nai-ux | it is useful, I am not sure if your filesystem is supported. i'm afk at the moment just saw ur message |
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| 03:53.55 | oldtopman | Is anyone here? |
| 03:55.19 | oldtopman | Appearrently not titacgs or ceduardo... |
| 03:55.36 | yow | oldtopman, there were plenty of discussion about a couple of mins ago but suddenly it became quiet, everyone seems disappeared. |
| 03:55.51 | oldtopman | Hmmm |
| 03:56.25 | yow | oldtopman, im afraid i can be of any help to u as im one of those who come here for help, but, i guess i'll come back later... |
| 03:56.46 | yow | oldtopman, btw, do u have any question to be asked here? |
| 03:56.55 | oldtopman | Here is a quick question for you. I have a USB mouse and it does not work in a clean install of debian 504 "lenny". lsusb says nothing but the mouse is powered and works in slackware, my current system. |
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| 03:57.13 | oldtopman | What is your question? |
| 03:57.47 | yow | oldtopman, about how to recover accidentally deleted files on ext3 fs |
| 03:57.54 | oldtopman | do'h |
| 03:58.01 | oldtopman | What did you delete? |
| 03:58.06 | yow | oldtopman, i know it's a tough one |
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| 03:58.48 | yow | oldtopman, 3 rmvb files which i've kept for about 5 years |
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| 03:59.20 | oldtopman | Have you umounted since you did that?\ |
| 03:59.36 | yow | oldtopman, im not sure i know how to solve your problem, but, im puzzled why it doesn't work on lenny |
| 03:59.59 | oldtopman | it might be my decrepit bootloader, lilo |
| 04:00.17 | oldtopman | But seriously, did you umount? |
| 04:00.27 | yow | oldtopman, yes, i unmounted the partition almost immediately after i `rm -f `, after 2 guys here asked me to do so |
| 04:00.59 | oldtopman | this looks to be good: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html |
| 04:01.15 | yow | let me show u 1 of my last post:- |
| 04:01.31 | yow | sdk, the http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html is rather long and also I came across 3 other tools, i.e. Photorec, Foremost and SleuthKit. I've unmounted the partition and i'm going to investigate and try to recover the lost data (hopefully) later today. btw, any comments about Photorec, Foremost and SleuthKit? |
| 04:02.13 | oldtopman | No. Here is why you have to read the page. |
| 04:02.40 | oldtopman | #1) EXT3 is not a very good FS for undeleting FS's |
| 04:02.53 | yow | oldtopman, i hope i can use the info on the website or ext3grep to recover my lost video files but, it's a rather lengthy article and i've to try it later today |
| 04:03.03 | yow | oldtopman, yes, it seems so |
| 04:03.15 | oldtopman | Okay then. Let me try to help you with this. |
| 04:03.20 | yow | oldtopman, btw, do u know if ext4 is better in this respect? |
| 04:03.47 | yow | oldtopman, oh really, im grateful... |
| 04:04.26 | oldtopman | EXT4 is just a whole bunch of changes to EXT3 that would make it "better" but there were so many, the EXT3 team said go do it yourself=> ext4 |
| 04:04.40 | oldtopman | So ext4 is just a really modded ext3 |
| 04:04.53 | yow | oldtopman, ic :) |
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| 04:05.37 | yow | oldtopman, actually, i started reading the article on the website but i found it difficult to understand, that's why i've to pause it now and come back to it later today when i have more time and clearer mind. |
| 04:05.48 | oldtopman | Do you have space on said drive to recover the files and is it still umounted? |
| 04:06.00 | yow | oldtopman, so, do u have any idea what i should do after unmounted the partition? |
| 04:06.15 | oldtopman | yep. lemme start with this |
| 04:06.22 | yow | oldtopman, the partition is still unmounted |
| 04:06.42 | yow | oldtopman, yes, i have space on other partitions on the same drive |
| 04:06.44 | oldtopman | I know you are not an idiot, but it is late and if I quote the site, don't feel foolish. Let us begin |
| 04:06.58 | yow | oldtopman, thx... |
| 04:06.59 | deconvolution | hello, I met a wired thing, after a gnome-upgrade my vlc/mplayer/etc has no sounds output but my firefox can still play music. Sounds preferences applet has no hardware displayed but sounds effects still work. Anyone experienced such problem ? |
| 04:07.02 | oldtopman | Do you have space on that exact partition? |
| 04:07.32 | oldtopman | deconvolution: do mixers still work? Have you tried a diff mixer? |
| 04:07.33 | yow | oldtopman, do u mean on the partition where the lost files resided? |
| 04:07.43 | oldtopman | yow: yes. |
| 04:08.06 | deconvolution | alsa mixer seems fine |
| 04:08.25 | oldtopman | deconvolution: Have you tried a dif mixer? |
| 04:09.25 | deconvolution | yes, i tried |
| 04:09.30 | yow | oldtopman, yes, cos i have not yet written any file onto the partition after removing the 3 files (~900MB), i think i probably have another 300MB left on top of that on the same partition |
| 04:09.39 | oldtopman | yow: run this command "ext3grep $IMAGE --ls --inode" |
| 04:09.52 | deconvolution | oldtopman, I tried both gnome version and alsa's, both OK |
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| 04:11.02 | yow | oldtopman, may i ask u a simple question? i wonder why u asked me about the space left on that partition, as i was told not to "touch" that partition and i should only mount it as read-only fs in order to recover the lost files? am i right? |
| 04:11.18 | oldtopman | yes |
| 04:11.36 | oldtopman | deconvolution: try as root "alsaconf" |
| 04:11.42 | yow | oldtopman, should i remount the partition as read-only, before running the ext3grep command u should me before? |
| 04:12.58 | yow | oldtopman, should i replace $IMAGE with /dev/hda6 (the partition where the lost files resided)? |
| 04:13.14 | oldtopman | yow: no. I' am actually a bit confused myself. Just try not to mount it because if you mount it rw, you will not be able to get your stuff back. Let me give you the folowing outline, because I can't seem to get you the specific command |
| 04:13.22 | oldtopman | I have to go soon |
| 04:13.33 | yow | oldtopman, ic |
| 04:13.49 | oldtopman | yow: yes now listen carefully here is what the site says |
| 04:13.53 | yow | oldtopman, from my understanding, i also think i do not need to mount the partition |
| 04:14.01 | yow | oldtopman, ok |
| 04:14.06 | oldtopman | you dont. no more questions |
| 04:14.13 | oldtopman | The summary: |
| 04:15.38 | oldtopman | You need to look at the journal to fogure out where the missing file is located. It will take patience. You then need to use dd to copy that part of the HD into a file. With luck, you will have selected the correct partof the HD and you will have the missing file |
| 04:16.10 | yow | oldtopman, ic. |
| 04:16.14 | oldtopman | If you remount, it will update the journal, meaning you will have no Idea where your files are located. |
| 04:16.29 | oldtopman | I believe that is what the site says. |
| 04:16.33 | yow | oldtopman, ic |
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| 04:16.55 | oldtopman | deconvolution: did that work? |
| 04:16.57 | yow | oldtopman, thx, i almost wanted to mount it as RO |
| 04:17.24 | oldtopman | yow: ro should be ok, but if you screw it, you are screwed now g'nite |
| 04:17.39 | yow | oldtopman, thx. good night & sleep tight |
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| 04:37.22 | Diytto | Hey guys |
| 04:37.36 | Diytto | So the debian installer recognizes my wifi card |
| 04:37.48 | Diytto | However i can only join wep netowrks |
| 04:37.56 | Diytto | My network is wpa |
| 04:37.57 | fryguy | Diytto: wpa_supplicant |
| 04:37.59 | fryguy | is what you need |
| 04:38.04 | Diytto | Oh |
| 04:38.08 | Diytto | How do i do that |
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| 04:38.47 | fryguy | http://wiki.debian.org/WPA |
| 04:38.50 | Diytto | And uh i have osx installed on a drive |
| 04:38.52 | fryguy | decent starting point |
| 04:38.58 | Diytto | How do i know which drive it is on |
| 04:39.33 | fryguy | Diytto: by looking at the partitions and checking |
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| 04:40.47 | Diytto | Oh jou |
| 04:40.49 | Diytto | Joy |
| 04:41.04 | Diytto | Can i use disk utility in osx and get the drive info |
| 04:41.11 | fryguy | probably |
| 04:41.17 | Diytto | Oh cool |
| 04:41.40 | Diytto | So that article says wpa is in the installer |
| 04:41.45 | Diytto | :s |
| 04:41.53 | fryguy | Diytto: yah, so use it |
| 04:42.15 | fryguy | manpage is pretty descriptive, and there's usually a sample conf laying around |
| 04:42.16 | Diytto | But when i am in the installer and it scans the network it finds nothing |
| 04:42.29 | Diytto | And i cant join mine |
| 04:42.55 | Diytto | It asks for wep only which does not make sense to me according to that article |
| 04:43.00 | fryguy | right, because you need to set up wpa_wupplicant |
| 04:43.16 | Diytto | Ah |
| 04:43.17 | Diytto | K |
| 04:43.35 | Diytto | So i cant use it during the install? |
| 04:43.40 | Diytto | Or can i |
| 04:43.40 | Diytto | :O |
| 04:43.40 | fryguy | sure you can |
| 04:44.00 | Diytto | does not know much about all this |
| 04:44.08 | Diytto | Basic bash really is all i know |
| 04:44.40 | fryguy | all yoou need is basic bash, you create a file, and run 1 a command. just go read the manpage and look at the sample config, it's not hard |
| 04:45.02 | Diytto | Where is the manpage? |
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| 04:45.43 | fryguy | it's probably man wpa_supplicant |
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| 04:53.22 | Diytto | Ha |
| 04:53.23 | Diytto | Ah |
| 04:53.25 | Diytto | A |
| 04:53.29 | Diytto | I understand |
| 04:53.37 | Diytto | :D |
| 04:53.42 | Diytto | I just need a config |
| 04:53.47 | Diytto | Which should be easy |
| 04:53.53 | thomasp[1] | greetings: I have a stock lenny install and am using reiserfs , I can't seem to find reiserfsck, ( yes, I nstalled reiserfsprogs) |
| 04:54.03 | Diytto | Where do i get a bash window in the installer? |
| 04:54.54 | franki^ | Diytto: Ctrl + Alt + f* should work |
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| 04:55.03 | Diytto | Alright |
| 04:55.09 | franki^ | (It's been a while since I've used the installer) |
| 04:55.11 | rww | thomasp[1]: /sbin/fsck.reiserfs |
| 04:55.13 | Diytto | Ok |
| 04:55.26 | Diytto | Ill ask in the morning probably too :9 |
| 04:55.29 | Diytto | :p |
| 04:55.33 | Diytto | Im goin to bed |
| 04:55.35 | rww | thomasp[1]: or /sbin/reiserfsck , I guess |
| 04:55.37 | Diytto | Night all |
| 04:55.54 | franki^ | Heh, well, I'm 99% sure, but... Night :) |
| 04:56.09 | thomasp[1] | rww: yes there it is in /sbin, odd "find" couldn't locate it. thanks kindly |
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| 05:01.19 | franki^ | thomasp[1]: For the record, I personally find "locate" much more useful than "find". |
| 05:02.35 | thomasp[1] | franki: I will check it out, any particular reason you prefer "locate" |
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| 05:02.52 | terang | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.04 | fryguy | locate is a lot less pwoerful, but it's a lot faster for full disk searches |
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| 05:04.13 | franki^ | thomasp[1]: In my experience it's faster and simpler. But terang is very right, in this situation whereis is what you wanted. |
| 05:04.47 | franki^ | thomasp[1]: find may be more powerful, but I usually have to consult the man page when I use it, heh. |
| 05:05.07 | franki^ | Whereis locate "just works" for me. |
| 05:05.23 | franki^ | Oops, s/Whereis/Whereas/ |
| 05:05.25 | thomasp[1] | franki: "find" is all I have ever used, I find the syntax simple |
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| 05:06.21 | franki^ | thomasp[1]: Well, you failed to find the file didn't you..? But, feel free to ignore my advice, I just thought I'd throw it out there. :) |
| 05:06.44 | franki^ | Sometimes it's good to hear about alternatives. *shrug* |
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| 05:06.57 | thomasp[1] | ok, another issue, I have a lenny dit that has been working well, untill today, it just boots to a "grub" prompt, I though perhaps a corrupted partition, reiserfsck just informed me that "no corruptionsfound " any ideas ? |
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| 05:08.24 | konr | Most famous distros have merits, but is there one that would make you switch from Debian? |
| 05:08.59 | thomasp[1] | franki: actually after 5 minutes I killed the search, it is a backup server with 1.5 t and would take about 45 minutes on this server. |
| 05:09.12 | Dewi | konr: they have different strengths |
| 05:09.34 | Dewi | konr: debian is well-tested, organised, and general purpose |
| 05:09.55 | konr | Dewi: i love its large collection of packages |
| 05:10.10 | Dewi | konr: yeah, hugeness is a big part of "general purpose" |
| 05:10.41 | franki^ | thomasp[1]: Well, locate keeps a database of filenames, so I believe the search would've been faster if you'd used it. :) |
| 05:11.09 | thomasp[1] | franki: just tried using locate and voila, 30 seconds had my answer, ( weird, must look into why "find" did not produce the results) |
| 05:11.57 | franki^ | thomasp[1]: Like I said, I'm really not an expert, but I always use locate these days! |
| 05:12.23 | thomasp[1] | franki: yep, I agree, syntax is even simpler |
| 05:13.10 | thomasp[1] | ok, anybody have an idea why I end up with a "grub" prompt when I start of the "lenny" box ? |
| 05:13.27 | thomasp[1] | of = up |
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| 05:25.13 | niklaswe | god morning |
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| 05:52.35 | angel-tsankov | what's happend with login.messaging.aol.com |
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| 06:08.08 | rkhshm | where can i find the source code for iostat ? |
| 06:08.48 | rkhshm | im particularly interested in rrqm/s wrqm/s |
| 06:08.55 | SwedeMike | sudo apt-get source sysstat |
| 06:09.37 | rkhshm | and i cant look at it online? |
| 06:10.03 | rkhshm | is there no opengrok sort of a thing with debian ? |
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| 06:15.50 | k0rc | apt-get source & grep sound much more faster and easier than remote server + web browser.. or is it only me? |
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| 06:18.33 | Snakkah | Can I safely install Ubuntu packages on Debian or Debian-based distros such as the Alpha release of Crunchbang? |
| 06:18.33 | k0rc | cross-referencing tool sounds interesting, though. |
| 06:19.37 | k0rc | Snakkah, sometimes things break, but usually its not that much of problem. unless you are going to replace some really core components like x drivers etc. |
| 06:20.53 | Snakkah | k0rc, nothing that major. Just going to install a few things that aren't exactly in their latest release stages in the Debian repos. Pidgin is a shining example of that. 2.4 in Debian repos, 2.7 is the current release. |
| 06:21.45 | k0rc | Snakkah, with pidgin watch out for gtk library dependencies. maybe its easier install not from maverick but previous releases. |
| 06:22.02 | Snakkah | Hm maybe so. |
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| 06:31.47 | rkhshm | so there is no online referece for codes ? |
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| 06:36.18 | kevke | Hey ppl I am triing desperately to open the port 1936 for red5 however I always get a bad argument. Is there a flaw: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp Ć¢ĀĀ-dport 1936 -j ACCEPT |
| 06:36.58 | k0rc | rkhshm, looks like launchpad is hosting some projects: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysstat ... but i don't think it would be as easy to use as opengrok. |
| 06:37.46 | k0rc | kevke, are dashes before --dport really dashes or some weird unicode characters? because in your paste here they are unicode. |
| 06:38.08 | k0rc | kevke, plus, you don't need to specify -m tcp if you already have specified -p tcp |
| 06:39.01 | rkhshm | k0rc: ok thanks.. let me try to figure out |
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| 06:40.21 | kevke | I took it from here, thought it was mandatory to assign -m (well it did not make sense, however) |
| 06:40.23 | qpt` | Hey guys, check out my rap vid and give me your feedback. I want to make it bigg ass fuuuuk. Hot, thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC60h6H39Hc |
| 06:40.25 | kevke | http://www.videochat-scripts.com/installed-red5-08-rc3-with-jdk-1613-on-linux/ |
| 06:41.05 | peterrooney | Snakkah: much better to install from source than to install a package designed for another distribution. |
| 06:41.49 | kevke | it's half way thru |
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| 06:45.06 | NoReflex | hello! my debian db server (postgres) is having a bad day - system load is 12 - 13 and I get messages like INFO: task postgres:3489 blocked for more than 120 seconds. [22925.470544] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. in dmesg |
| 06:45.36 | NoReflex | and :raid10:wait_barrier+0x87/0xc8 - I'm using software raid |
| 06:45.59 | NoReflex | but the array seems ok: md0 : active raid10 sdc[0] sdf[3] sde[2] sdd[1] 1953524736 blocks 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/4] [UUUU] |
| 06:49.24 | k0rc | kevke, looks like the examples on that html page have automatic conversions done hyphens.. office software is doing that a lot. and messes up all the code along the way. |
| 06:50.31 | kevke | Could you help me on that one? it seams as 1935 is not recognized as a valid port |
| 06:50.47 | kevke | or bad argument |
| 06:51.01 | k0rc | try manually typing the commands, not copy-paste. |
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| 06:54.20 | kevke | done, however should "netstat -anp | grep 1936" echo a response? |
| 06:54.56 | kevke | 1936 was the port, anyway |
| 06:55.44 | k0rc | that's after you have daemons running. iptables just enables incoming connections to that port. |
| 06:56.04 | k0rc | if you want to see what rules are applied through iptables, you should use iptables -L -v -n |
| 06:56.18 | k0rc | or iptables-save |
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| 07:00.34 | kevke | Hmm, it seams to be right now, but red5 still does not say a peep |
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| 07:00.55 | kevke | actually the extension, I would like to communicate with it |
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| 07:11.13 | kevke | well red5 says something, to be honest, but this extension is kinda not working |
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| 07:13.11 | NginUS | can i schedule a scrub on md0 when it's a pv for lvm2? |
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| 07:17.35 | kevke | Is there a way to figure out, if programes run properly? |
| 07:18.10 | kevke | For example I would like to know if jdk runs like it is supposed to |
| 07:19.44 | terang | kevke: does test not work for you? |
| 07:20.18 | kevke | brings nothing |
| 07:20.53 | terang | Actually test wasn't what I meant, hold on |
| 07:21.15 | kevke | i think I have an idea |
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| 07:22.13 | terang | Nagios, there we go |
| 07:22.45 | terang | http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/addons.html <--- re NRPE |
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| 07:25.59 | terang | Actually looking at it kevke, mon might be another alternative to nagios if you're not running an infrastructure |
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| 07:32.21 | kevke | not having mon, is mon a full name, or is that one different |
| 07:32.52 | kevke | i mean apt-get install mon should that help or is it different |
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| 07:37.52 | sedulous | how can i force wpa-supplicant to prefer 802.11n access points |
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| 07:38.38 | kevke | I am actually confused: I have red5 running and it is supposed to connect to an extension (videowhisper) that runs on elgg. It requires the path for the extension within the red5 installation in the format rtmp://ip.of.the.srv/videowhisper So just out of curiosity, if I http instead of rtmp, I know, that's to different things, shouldn't it at least give a different output then 404? |
| 07:39.05 | kevke | If I enter this in a browser |
| 07:39.25 | padhu | what is the new release date? |
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| 08:12.12 | eliasp | hi |
| 08:13.30 | eliasp | i have a strange behaviour of vim on my debian installation.... i can yank some lines by applying 'yy' on a visual selection, but inserting doesn't work ("E353: Nothing in register "") ... i've already removed the customized vimrc and re-installed vim/vim-common, but it is still the same... |
| 08:13.51 | eliasp | does anyone know how to get yy/p working (without mouse usage) |
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| 08:32.59 | SPF | eliasp: have you tried using vim from tty? |
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| 08:40.07 | Pinchiukas | Sveiki, urodai! |
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| 08:51.10 | d3c | I need /var/www to always have directories 770 and files 660. can I setup a umask for this directory (and any subdirectories/files) only? |
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| 08:52.54 | g0rd0n | is there a way, via command line, to convert wma files to mp3? |
| 08:58.45 | NoReflex | anyone know why there isn't a recent version of mdadm in backports? |
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| 09:01.31 | SPF | d3c: what I usually do is: find $YOURDIR -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 770 |
| 09:04.41 | d3c | SPF: but how about new files then? I don't want to run the command every time a new file is created |
| 09:04.47 | simonrvn | d3c: umasks are set for the user |
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| 09:06.00 | d3c | simonrvn: but /etc/profile is global? |
| 09:11.03 | simonrvn | yes. and you don't want to be doing that globally. |
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| 09:15.12 | d3c | simonrvn: so how may I set for a user only? |
| 09:15.36 | simonrvn | depends. usually in their shell rc files. |
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| 09:15.46 | d5e | is there anyone familiar with the iwlwifi project ? |
| 09:19.06 | streuner_ | dpkg, iwlwifi |
| 09:19.06 | dpkg | iwlwifi is the driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless LAN chipsets since Lenny. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. If upgrading from Etch, see http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi to switch from ipw3945 to iwl3945. See also <iwlagn> <wmaster0>. #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net. |
| 09:19.39 | d5e | thanks for the explanation |
| 09:19.54 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:20.12 | streuner_ | d5e, just ask, if somebody know s(he) surely try to help |
| 09:20.51 | d5e | yesterday I installed a fresh debian stable (506) release with kernel 2.6.26-2-686 ... as of intellinuxwireless.org the iwlwifi driver has been merged into the kernel since 2.6.24 |
| 09:21.00 | d5e | but anyway I don't get it working |
| 09:21.38 | streuner_ | fw is installed? |
| 09:21.47 | d5e | nope |
| 09:22.03 | d5e | but isnt that in the kernel since 2.6.24 ? |
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| 09:22.25 | streuner_ | i doubt that |
| 09:22.34 | d5e | I had tried a kubuntu live cd from 2007 - this one recognized wifi out of the box |
| 09:22.52 | streuner_ | sure, but Debian doesnt ship much fw... |
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| 09:23.22 | d5e | dmesg | grep iwl |
| 09:23.22 | d5e | iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch |
| 09:23.48 | streuner_ | dpkg, info firmware-iwlwifi |
| 09:23.54 | d5e | but the funny thing, I don't have a switch, just a button |
| 09:23.54 | streuner_ | judd, versions firmware-iwlwifi |
| 09:23.55 | judd | Package firmware-iwlwifi on i386 -- etch/non-free: 0.4+etchnhalf.1; etch-backports/non-free: 0.13~bpo40+1; lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny2; lenny-backports/non-free: 0.24~bpo50+1; sid/non-free: 0.27; squeeze/non-free: 0.27 |
| 09:24.12 | dpkg | firmware-iwlwifi: (Binary firmware for Intel Wireless 3945, 4965 and 5000-series cards), section non-free/kernel, is optional. Version: 0.27 (sid), Packaged size: 1395 kB, Installed size: 2972 kB |
| 09:24.26 | streuner_ | just install it, but its non-free |
| 09:24.36 | streuner_ | keep that in mind, if you need to alter your sources.list |
| 09:24.40 | d5e | ah this one, sorry |
| 09:24.43 | d5e | installed already |
| 09:24.58 | d5e | yesterday followed misc posts for hours |
| 09:25.12 | d5e | I have 0.27 now |
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| 09:25.41 | streuner_ | well, you dont run lenny/stable then, most likely |
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| 09:26.50 | d5e | andifconfig wlan0 up => SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device |
| 09:26.57 | prologic | How do you set an interface's vlan id these days ? |
| 09:28.53 | petern_ | vlan taggng? |
| 09:29.01 | prologic | yeap |
| 09:29.07 | prologic | do I need to install vconfig ? |
| 09:29.18 | prologic | or does the iputils /sbin/ip tool do the job ? |
| 09:31.14 | d5e | streuner_: reinstalled firmware-iwlwifi ... now have 0.14 ... restarted x but still "Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch" |
| 09:32.11 | SwedeMike | I've seen that behaviour, I had to boot into windows vista to be able to switch it back on again, the linux driver didn't have that capability. |
| 09:32.37 | d5e | SwedeMike: sounds funny ... I'll checkt that |
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| 09:34.04 | SwedeMike | d5e: later ubuntu might be able to do it as well |
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| 09:35.16 | d5e | sounds like you want me to change my distro .) |
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| 09:36.13 | SwedeMike | d5e: well, either that on try debian testing. I run debian stable on old server hw (> 3 years old), if anything is newer than that, I run either ubuntu (mostly desktop) or at least upgrade stuff on stable with a newer kernel and alike |
| 09:36.53 | SwedeMike | s/ on / or /1 |
| 09:37.20 | d5e | the hw of that notebook is at least 3 years old |
| 09:37.51 | d5e | and like said on http://intellinuxwireless.org/ ithe wifi driver should be in the kernel as of 2.6.24 |
| 09:38.17 | d5e | so I have 2.6.26 |
| 09:38.53 | SwedeMike | it's up to you how to proceed with what you feel best. I wouldn't stick with debian stable and 2.6.26 if I were in your position though. |
| 09:39.11 | SwedeMike | but that's partly because I'm lazy and mostly just want things to work. |
| 09:39.51 | qwd | laziness is a virtue |
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| 09:40.34 | d5e | I ll give squeeze a try .) |
| 09:40.47 | d5e | its just a notebook |
| 09:41.24 | Rada | Hi... stupid question. How do I, on my system, figure out that I'm using "Debian" and that it's a "Lenny"? Also, how do I find out if 'Squeeze' is a Debian 6 and 'Etch' is a Debian 4? Is there a FAQ/README/Wiki on this topic? |
| 09:41.49 | Rada | I always waste at least 5 minutes whenever this becomes an issue for me. |
| 09:41.57 | d5e | Rada: might take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 09:42.17 | qwd | d5e: Squeeze works great, you'll be alright :) |
| 09:42.20 | sedulous | How can I build debian packages out of the source tree? (I don't want dpkg-buildpackage to change anything in the source directory.) |
| 09:42.53 | SwedeMike | Rada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Release_history |
| 09:42.55 | qwd | Rada: I usually check https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Debian#Release_history when I forget. |
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| 09:43.13 | Rada | cool, thanks. |
| 09:43.41 | SwedeMike | Rada: $ cat /etc/debian_version |
| 09:43.41 | SwedeMike | 5.0.6 |
| 09:43.57 | Rada | SwedeMike: and that answers the last question I had :D |
| 09:43.59 | Rada | Thank you. |
| 09:44.46 | streuner_ | dpkg, version |
| 09:44.47 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
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| 09:48.53 | d5e | SwedeMike ... I edited sources.list from lenny to squeeze but when I do aptitude full-upgrade it wants to remove gnome and some other stuff I would like to keep |
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| 09:52.02 | ttiicc | crontab -e | grep drfy.sh This freezes my terminal!can't kill it with "ctrl + c" |
| 09:52.58 | dougmencken | ttiicc: crontab -e for grepping? and yes, vim ignores ^C |
| 09:53.03 | streuner_ | d5e, just install it later then (/msg dpkg gnome install) |
| 09:53.23 | dougmencken | ttiicc: try crontab -l | grep whatever |
| 09:53.25 | d5e | ok |
| 09:53.25 | ttiicc | so I could had hit q and then i would exit? |
| 09:53.30 | streuner_ | d5e, it might help too - /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
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| 09:54.06 | ttiicc | I made a miss match when I type that command, and I wonder how I could end it because ctrl + c didn't help |
| 09:54.10 | dougmencken | ttiicc: you can also switch to another tty and pkill $EDITOR |
| 09:54.26 | eviltoaster | drbd with gpt and partition size of 5TB is it possible? |
| 09:54.37 | ttiicc | or do a pgrep and then kill its process? |
| 09:54.48 | ttiicc | but what if Im in sudo screen? |
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| 09:59.35 | dougmencken | ttiicc: su -c 'ps -A | grep vi' << founds that broken process for me; after that, sudo kill -9 5458 << ${PID_OF_VIM} |
| 10:00.11 | dougmencken | crontab: "/bin/vi" killed; signal 9 (no core dumped) ;) |
| 10:02.11 | bibekp | hi, is it possible to call fscanf() so that it reads from the stdout? |
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| 10:06.38 | jelly | bibekp: stdout? What are you really trying to do? |
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| 10:07.19 | bibekp | jelly, another function in my program prints out a string, i want to read it (without rewriting the functions or the files which print it) |
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| 10:11.04 | dougmencken | bibekp: of course it is possible, if you want, see stdio.h: extern struct _IO_FILE *stdout; /* Standard output stream. */ << so you can pass it as 1st argument to fscanf |
| 10:11.45 | bibekp | doubleukay, for some reason, it is not working |
| 10:13.42 | bibekp | dougmencken, here is a proof-of-concept code, which is not working http://pastie.org/1274534 |
| 10:13.54 | bibekp | i highlighted the wrong person, sorry |
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| 10:17.05 | dougmencken | bibekp: I'm sorry, but you're doing it wrong; at first, it is Debian channel, and #gcc will be much more suitable for such questions; at second, you messed with time, coz you want to read from file descriptor *after*; at third, why don't you use pipes? |
| 10:17.06 | d3c | how may I show all users in a group? does debian have logins, listgroup, or something else? |
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| 10:20.02 | bibekp | dougmencken, sorry about the mistake. now since this is not a programming channel, should i reply your questions here or not? |
| 10:21.26 | dougmencken | bibekp: I'm there too :) |
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| 10:26.47 | g0rd0n | is there a way, via command line, to convert wma files to mp3? |
| 10:28.35 | dougmencken | g0rd0n: mencoder, mpg321, ffmpeg... but better to convert to ogg, of course :) |
| 10:28.44 | dougmencken | so oggenc |
| 10:28.55 | g0rd0n | i need mp3 :) |
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| 10:35.52 | qwd | g0rd0n: just keep in mind that quality will suffer. |
| 10:37.19 | g0rd0n | of course :) |
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| 10:43.33 | SPF | d3c: I did a search but could find such command. Maybe you can script it? |
| 10:45.11 | d3c | SPF: I found a hacky way to do it. just delgroup whatevergroup and it will complain + show the users in the group if any. but that's only if you're sure you might wanna remove the group or if you're sure that there are members in it. |
| 10:45.32 | d3c | SPF: did the trick for me, anyway. |
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| 10:59.00 | xqueralt | hi |
| 10:59.13 | xqueralt | I'm building a package that needs gstreamer's element x264 |
| 10:59.29 | xqueralt | and I'd like it to be installable in ubuntu too |
| 10:59.42 | xqueralt | can I depend in some way only on x264enc ? |
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| 11:00.00 | xqueralt | the element itself instead of the package containing it? |
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| 11:06.46 | johndoevodka | can i somehow safely force python version from 2.5 to 2.6? |
| 11:07.05 | abrotman | in lenny? not a good idea |
| 11:07.16 | johndoevodka | squeeze |
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| 11:08.18 | Balsaq | is debian faster than ubuntu |
| 11:08.36 | johndoevodka | Balsaq, no |
| 11:08.36 | bolt-work | Balsaq: that question makes no sense |
| 11:08.37 | collabra | Balsaq, i think so. |
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| 11:08.44 | bolt-work | Balsaq: it's as fast as the stuff you install on it |
| 11:09.32 | abrotman | Balsaq: you have to run your own workload test .. in general, yes |
| 11:09.33 | collabra | Balsaq, i think the kernel is configured differently,... squeeze, i think, does run faster on my computer than ubuntu |
| 11:09.40 | abrotman | johndoevodka: 2.6 is already the default |
| 11:12.16 | johndoevodka | abrotman: hmm weird, maybe i need to update my python package |
| 11:12.27 | abrotman | johndoevodka: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 11:12.41 | johndoevodka | just a sidenote, i dont update my system often |
| 11:12.52 | johndoevodka | in fact, i prefer not to update it |
| 11:12.55 | abrotman | 'often'? like, not since last year? |
| 11:13.07 | abrotman | okay .. the point of a rolling release is to update it |
| 11:13.14 | abrotman | though, it's now frozen |
| 11:13.21 | johndoevodka | i guess, but in the past often i had problems after updating |
| 11:13.32 | stalemate | Someone here from Germany, working in the isp area? Please contact me... |
| 11:13.36 | johndoevodka | so i decided rather not to if everything is working ok |
| 11:13.47 | abrotman | johndoevodka: well, waiting a year doesn't make it better, and gives you tons of security issues |
| 11:14.01 | abrotman | johndoevodka: pasting your sources? |
| 11:14.03 | johndoevodka | kk |
| 11:15.07 | johndoevodka | abrotman: http://debian.pastebin.com/TxzVfzWh |
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| 11:16.27 | abrotman | okay, no idea what the lamaresh source is .. but you probably want to comment out the lenny sources and do a full system update |
| 11:16.37 | abrotman | johndoevodka: what is your current kernel? uname -r |
| 11:16.55 | johndoevodka | 2.6.30-2-amd64 |
| 11:18.04 | abrotman | johndoevodka: so you'd ocmment out the lenny sources, aptitude update && aptitude install aptitude dpkg linux-image-amd64 .. reboot, then aptitude full-upgrade .. in the end, you should end up with python2.6 as your default |
| 11:18.18 | johndoevodka | abrotman: kk, thanks |
| 11:18.25 | abrotman | and your entire system will be shiny/new/hopefully-not-broken |
| 11:18.35 | johndoevodka | hopefully |
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| 11:32.08 | rudi_s | Hi. This maybe a stupid question, but how can I search for a bug in bugs.debian.org. I just to search for the string gma 3150 in all debian bugs. Thanks. |
| 11:32.55 | rudi_s | *just want |
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| 11:33.05 | rozie | rudi_s: did you try gma 3150 site:bugs.debian.org in google? |
| 11:33.28 | abrotman | rudi_s: bugs.debian.org/xserver-xorg-video-intel ? |
| 11:33.46 | abrotman | rudi_s: if you look on bugs.debian.org, there is a link to a full text search somewhere (or there used to be) |
| 11:34.35 | rudi_s | abrotman: Ah, thanks. Found the link - totally overlooked that. I'm just curious, but why doesn't the normal interface support searching for a simple string? |
| 11:34.52 | rozie | rudi_s: Searching bug reports on bugs.debian.org |
| 11:35.16 | rozie | rudi_s: probably lot of I/O when full search is done |
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| 11:35.30 | rudi_s | rozie: Nice, thank you. Even better than the link given on bugs.debian.org ... |
| 11:35.56 | abrotman | rudi_s: it's a bit intensive i would imagine .. |
| 11:35.57 | rozie | and hardly ever you want to search in text |
| 11:36.03 | rudi_s | rozie: Hm, yeah. But what are bug reports for if I can't search them. And I often don't know the package name. Anyway, it works now. Thanks for your help. |
| 11:36.23 | abrotman | rudi_s: generally, google is pretty good at finding them |
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| 11:37.28 | rudi_s | abrotman: True. Thanks. |
| 11:37.47 | abrotman | rudi_s: remember that all filed bugs are sent to a mailing list, and that list is archived by tons of websites |
| 11:38.15 | rudi_s | Yeah, didn't think of that. |
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| 11:51.44 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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| 11:52.56 | rindolf | I have linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem installed on Debian Squeeze, but on /boot I don't have vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem |
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| 11:53.05 | rindolf | How can I enable it? |
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| 11:55.12 | metalfoo | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/i386/linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem/filelist You do. |
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| 12:00.09 | fbs | dev/sr0 is the cd drive during install right? |
| 12:00.51 | kevke | Has anyone had experience with red5 or wodzwa (or however this is spelled) I have red5 installed on the system, however, I am not able to connect. According to portscan, the necessary ports are all open |
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| 12:05.10 | yuvipanda | I'm trying to install Debian on a Netbook (Samsung N210) |
| 12:05.20 | yuvipanda | i've tried netinstall and hdboot |
| 12:05.28 | yuvipanda | both are giving me an 'uncompression error -- system halted' |
| 12:05.35 | abrotman | rindolf: reinstall the package .. see if it gets created |
| 12:05.38 | fbs | dev/sr0 is the cd drive during install right? |
| 12:05.42 | abrotman | yuvipanda: which Debian ? |
| 12:05.52 | yuvipanda | when trying to boot from the usb pen drive (created via unetbootin) |
| 12:05.53 | yuvipanda | abrotman, testing |
| 12:06.11 | abrotman | squeeze you mean? |
| 12:06.37 | yuvipanda | yes |
| 12:07.28 | yuvipanda | abrotman, other distros run fine (I installed Fedora, went without a hitch) |
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| 12:09.21 | rindolf | metalfoo, abrotman : ls: cannot access /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem: No such file or directory |
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| 12:09.47 | metalfoo | Are you sure, you did actually install the package? |
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| 12:10.36 | rindolf | metalfoo, using apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 12:11.13 | evilgeenius | What is a decent but small size for a debian hard disk? Im just about to create a fresh debian vps and I can choose the hard disk size, it can be upto 16G. I want to make it small as possible. I'll only be runnning apache/rails/mysql on it, and all files are being stored on external storage. Is 2GB enough? |
| 12:11.25 | metalfoo | apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem gives you what? |
| 12:11.37 | abrotman | rindolf: paste the full output of `aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem' |
| 12:11.42 | abrotman | use paste.debian.net |
| 12:12.01 | abrotman | evilgeenius: do you want swap ? |
| 12:12.39 | evilgeenius | abrotman: that doesn't include swap, thats just for debian itself, swap is on a different disk |
| 12:12.43 | rindolf | abrotman, linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled. |
| 12:13.51 | babilen | rindolf: Well, there is your answer: aptitude install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem |
| 12:13.58 | abrotman | rindolf: so install it |
| 12:14.06 | rindolf | abrotman, OK. |
| 12:14.11 | abrotman | evilgeenius: i'd go 3-4GB probably .. |
| 12:14.14 | rindolf | babilen, is this the latest kernel? |
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| 12:14.23 | abrotman | evilgeenius: logs, docs .. that sort of stuff |
| 12:14.37 | abrotman | evilgeenius: or try it, see what happens, you can always create another VM :) |
| 12:14.43 | abrotman | erm, VPS |
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| 12:15.08 | evilgeenius | abrotman: true, but id rather not, im a bit pressed for time |
| 12:15.19 | abrotman | better to go large then small eh? |
| 12:15.48 | abrotman | than |
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| 12:17.03 | babilen | rindolf: You could also install linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem or linux-image-686-bigmem. Those are meta-packages that depend on the latest kernel. |
| 12:17.19 | rindolf | babilen, Ok. |
| 12:17.30 | evilgeenius | I joined the rm * club last night :-( |
| 12:18.10 | rindolf | babilen, thanks. |
| 12:18.44 | babilen | rindolf: Another possibility would be to install an amd64 kernel |
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| 12:20.16 | abrotman | if he has 64bit hardware |
| 12:20.26 | rindolf | babilen, I have an x86-32 machine. |
| 12:20.28 | babilen | yes |
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| 12:20.32 | rindolf | P4-2.4GHz. |
| 12:21.35 | babilen | rindolf: Alright, disregard that then. (You might want to check "grep lm /proc/cpuinfo" |
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| 12:22.04 | rindolf | babilen, it returns nothing. |
| 12:22.31 | babilen | rindolf: Ok, 32bit it is then. :) (As expected) |
| 12:24.37 | rindolf | babilen, thanks, I'm going to reboot to try this. |
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| 12:28.27 | d5e | hey guys - I am now running on squeeze ... gnome also working again, but wifi still errornous |
| 12:28.41 | ondrejk | d5e: define |
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| 12:29.14 | d5e | dmesg is giving me some bad lines ... I will try to paste them from that machine ... sec |
| 12:30.26 | babilen | d5e: "lspci -knn|grep -iA 2 network" would also be interesting |
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| 12:34.18 | yuvipanda | abrotman, got it to work - unpacked the files manually without using unetbootin :) |
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| 12:35.36 | rindolf | babilen: hi. I was able to boot my Debian partition using 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem after changing root=/dev/sda6 to root=/dev/sdc6 (I remember that from Mandriva) only now the font in KDE's konsole have become very large, and I cannot drag and drop files to Amarok (it's an old Amarok bug). |
| 12:36.26 | babilen | I have absolutely no experience with KDE -- There might be ways to adjust the font size though :-\ |
| 12:36.28 | rindolf | babilen: OK, switching back to Mandriva. Thanks! |
| 12:36.38 | babilen | Why? |
| 12:36.50 | rindolf | babilen: yes, but it shouldn't have changed spontaneously. |
| 12:36.56 | rindolf | babilen, because that's my main partition. |
| 12:37.02 | rindolf | Where I do most of my work. |
| 12:37.05 | blip2 | sudo aptitude install vlan |
| 12:37.29 | blip2 | hoo that wasa while ago... |
| 12:38.07 | d5e | lspci => 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection [8086:4222] (rev 02) |
| 12:38.07 | d5e | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.07 | d5e | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.07 | d5e | 04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller [11ab:4363] (rev 10) |
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| 12:38.46 | d5e | sorry |
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| 12:39.54 | babilen | d5e: That controller should work perfectly. You need to install "firmware-iwlwifi" for it to work |
| 12:40.57 | babilen | d5e: Run "modprobe -r iwl3945 && modprobe iwl3945" after you've installed the firmware package. |
| 12:41.31 | babilen | d5e: Make that "modprobe -r iwl3945 ; modprobe iwl3945" |
| 12:41.51 | d5e | iwlwifi is already newest version |
| 12:42.02 | rozie | this controller runs perfectly |
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| 12:42.50 | babilen | d5e: What problems do you have with it? |
| 12:43.05 | d5e | I ll try to answer in that order |
| 12:44.23 | d5e | hey babilen - could it be that this modprobe did the trick ? |
| 12:44.46 | babilen | A lot of things are possible :) |
| 12:44.51 | rozie | it usually works better when the driver is loaded ;) |
| 12:44.58 | d5e | first time since yesterday when I installed debian on this notebook I see a checked box "enable wireless" |
| 12:45.10 | babilen | hehe :) |
| 12:45.10 | d5e | before this box was always grey |
| 12:45.11 | d5e | cool |
| 12:45.25 | babilen | wonders why the module was not loaded automatically. |
| 12:45.33 | d5e | I wonder to |
| 12:45.40 | d5e | I hope it ll be in the future |
| 12:45.47 | rozie | maybe you had wireless disabled by button? |
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| 12:46.13 | babilen | d5e: You might want to reboot and check "lsmod | grep iwl3945" you have to do nothing if the module is loaded. However, if it is not loaded automatically, you should add it to /etc/modules |
| 12:46.32 | d5e | ok |
| 12:46.55 | babilen | IMHO it should be loaded automagically though -- what about rozie's question? (hw button) |
| 12:47.10 | d5e | regarding that button => dmesg always told me it was disabled by the kill switch - but this notebook do not has one - just a button - and the button did not react - the LED was always on |
| 12:48.21 | d5e | I just do a reboot and that test |
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| 12:50.02 | neil_d | I have compiled a new kernel for my SBC... I have set a number of crypto modules (e.g. aes)... but nothing is showing in /dev/crypto... is this correct? |
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| 12:51.39 | d5e | babilien: reboot, no more errors in dmesg (before I had some and this absurd HW kill switch info) |
| 12:51.41 | poisonbit | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP=m ? |
| 12:51.51 | d5e | babilien: and I did a lsmod ... but its not loaded |
| 12:52.07 | d5e | so I gonna ad this modprobe into /etc/modules right ? |
| 12:52.22 | babilen | hmm, weird. You can load it manually with "modprobe iwl3945" don't you? |
| 12:53.24 | yuvipanda | i'm trying to install testing (squeeze) from a pendrive on to my netbook |
| 12:53.26 | d5e | yes ... |
| 12:53.27 | yuvipanda | everything seemed to go fine |
| 12:53.28 | babilen | d5e: Check if you can load it manually -- if that works, I would add the *module name* (i.e. "iwl3945") to /etc/modules ... I still wonder why it is not loaded automagically, but well Ć¢ĀĀ¦ |
| 12:53.37 | yuvipanda | till i hit "unable to install busybox" |
| 12:54.12 | yuvipanda | virtual console 4 says 'unexpected error; command not executed: ' sh -c debconf-apt-progress --no-progress --logstderr -- apt-get -q -y --no-remove install busybox' |
| 12:54.17 | aguitel | anyway to enable 3D in this card:Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller |
| 12:54.24 | yuvipanda | error: exiting on error base-installer/kernel/failed-package-install |
| 12:57.01 | d5e | babilien: I have the dmesg log here ... maybe that's interesting ... on ~200 I probably did that manual modprobe http://www.uv7.de/ftp/pub/dmesg |
| 12:57.22 | aguitel | babilen, do you know this card:Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller ? |
| 12:58.51 | kevke | I have the following problem, I have installed a rtmp server (red5) and installed jdk as well, I think, i have set it up correctly, however, I cannot connect to the rtmp server. I believe I have set up the right ports and they are reachable from the outside. |
| 12:58.55 | jelly | aguitel: what does its lspci -nn line look like? |
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| 13:00.03 | aguitel | jelly, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2572] (rev 02) |
| 13:00.24 | jelly | judd: pciid 8086:2572 |
| 13:00.25 | judd | [8086:2572] is '82865G Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'intelfb' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2572 |
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| 13:02.29 | aguitel | jelly, what is i915 driver ? |
| 13:03.08 | kevke | Sounds like chipset to me |
| 13:03.21 | jelly | aguitel: depends on the context. it might be the kernel part of the DRI driver for recent intel onboard cards |
| 13:03.57 | jelly | aguitel: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists. Is the package libgl1-mesa-dri installed? |
| 13:04.37 | aguitel | jelly, libgl1-mesa-dri is installed |
| 13:04.43 | aguitel | jelly, wait |
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| 13:05.37 | aguitel | jelly, xorg is not installed |
| 13:06.26 | abrotman | that might be a good start ... |
| 13:07.06 | jelly | I think that actually means "sorry, I can't pastebin xorg.conf because it's not there, but I'm going to comply and pastebin the rest as soon as possible" |
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| 13:07.11 | aguitel | jelly, http://pastebin.com/ykZtGRWg |
| 13:08.27 | jelly | aguitel: that pastebin looks a bit messed up, are you 100% positive your log file _starts_ with (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"? |
| 13:09.11 | babilen | aguitel: What does "glxinfo|grep -i direct" give you? |
| 13:09.19 | aguitel | jelly, yes |
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| 13:09.49 | aguitel | babilen, direct rendering: Yes |
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| 13:10.51 | Rictoo | Does anyone here know about Postini? |
| 13:11.02 | abrotman | Rictoo: it's a google product |
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| 13:11.18 | Rictoo | abrotman, I have a couple simple questions about it |
| 13:11.37 | Rictoo | if I were to use the service, would outbound email be sent from the Postini servers? |
| 13:11.56 | abrotman | uhm .. it's a google product .. shouldn't you call them? |
| 13:12.17 | abrotman | AFAIK, it's a paid product only? They have a sales-tech team i would imagine |
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| 13:16.43 | babilen | aguitel: Ah, what about "glxinfo | grep -i opengl renderer" ? |
| 13:17.23 | babilen | aguitel: glxinfo | grep -ie "opengl renderer" ? |
| 13:17.25 | Diytto | Hey |
| 13:17.28 | babilen | ho |
| 13:18.05 | Diytto | :p |
| 13:18.19 | jelly | aguitel: the version of the driver in squeeze seems to have explicitely chosen software /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so driver for your card, and found DRI not to be available. I think this is a deliberate workaround. |
| 13:19.02 | babilen | right |
| 13:19.12 | Diytto | Squeeze is like the beta version of debian right? |
| 13:20.17 | babilen | !tell Diytto about squeeze |
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| 13:20.38 | jelly | aguitel: see how lines 353, 354 explicitely say DRI is not available. Compare line 257 in my log: http://paste.debian.net/99079/ |
| 13:20.53 | Diytto | Thx |
| 13:21.01 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 13:21.02 | Diytto | Thats kinda what i thought :p |
| 13:21.23 | Diytto | I am installing 5.0.8 today |
| 13:21.39 | Diytto | Which means many questions here :p |
| 13:22.00 | jelly | thankfully that's exactly what this channel is for |
| 13:22.10 | Diytto | Ikr |
| 13:22.29 | Diytto | I hope my hdd is erased by noe |
| 13:22.32 | Diytto | Now* |
| 13:22.49 | Diytto | :O |
| 13:22.52 | Diytto | Its not done |
| 13:23.00 | Diytto | Its on pass 6 of 7 :< |
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| 13:24.23 | qwd | When I detach screen and then reattach it again I get "Error: Cannot open display: :0.0" when running xclock. Does anyone else get this? I'm wondering if I should report it as a bug. |
| 13:24.45 | qwd | By the way, this is on Debian Squeeze AMD64 and gnome-terminal |
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| 13:26.11 | nkuttler | qwd: did you start screen from within gnome-terminal? |
| 13:26.14 | Diytto | How do i make a hard drive a master or slave |
| 13:26.25 | qwd | nkuttler: yes |
| 13:26.28 | Diytto | Does it matter? |
| 13:26.35 | nkuttler | qwd: sounds like a bug |
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| 13:26.57 | aguitel | jelly, sorry my system is down |
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| 13:27.26 | ghisen|home | Anyone good at the route command? I would like the traffic to IP x.x.x.x to go on eth0 instead of tap0(vpn) |
| 13:27.29 | aguitel | jelly, but what i need to do ? |
| 13:28.42 | aguitel | jelly, i have in this machine debian squeeze + 10.04 lucid ,only gnome-core installed ,and with 10.04 the card is fine |
| 13:29.59 | Diytto | Does it matter whether the hdd i install debian on is a slave or master? |
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| 13:34.20 | rkhshm | how are rrqm/s wrqm/s calculated within the iostat ?> |
| 13:34.24 | dougmencken | Diytto: nope, I do have it on 3rd IDE device |
| 13:34.27 | rkhshm | where can i find info on that |
| 13:34.45 | dougmencken | (hdc, all of them is cable select, so I dunno is it slave or not) |
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| 13:34.57 | Diytto | Ok lol |
| 13:35.27 | qwd | nkuttler: I was wrong, I forgot to add the "restart x" before reattaching screen. Apparently it's not a bug :) |
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| 13:36.14 | Diytto | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/maverick/release |
| 13:36.44 | Diytto | Which one do i want? |
| 13:36.46 | Diytto | For ubuntu |
| 13:36.49 | Diytto | After debian |
| 13:37.25 | babilen | Diytto: Why don't you ask in #ubuntu? |
| 13:37.29 | Diytto | Orly |
| 13:37.30 | datacrusher | im using quanta for web developing, and on its config its set to uft8 encoding. I got locale as PT-BR.uft8 but still special characters appear a tiny icon <?> |
| 13:37.31 | Diytto | Okay |
| 13:37.57 | datacrusher | if i write an Ć” in quanta it appears that odd character on the machine im testing the site |
| 13:38.28 | datacrusher | if i let this <?> the Ć” appears fine on the site. how do i set this right for quanta / locales / apache settings? |
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| 13:39.10 | datacrusher | i dunno if its in apache / php / that i must tune this |
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| 13:41.20 | d5e | babilen: I found out in the meantime that I need to push the radio button before the driver loads - I don't want to say that this does not make sense - but the problem ist that the wifi-LED is always on - is there a way to make the wifi LED represent the actual state of the adapter ? |
| 13:41.37 | Diytto | Wow |
| 13:41.46 | Diytto | No one will answer me there :< |
| 13:42.37 | d5e | Diytto: slave or master does not matter |
| 13:42.50 | vadi | What file list the packages installed on a Debian host? |
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| 13:43.23 | Diytto | What? |
| 13:43.24 | Diytto | Ok |
| 13:43.34 | Diytto | Uhhhh thats not what i need atm |
| 13:44.20 | babilen | Diytto: Sorry, but #debian can't really help you with an Ubuntu installation. |
| 13:44.30 | Diytto | Wow its really busy in there with people who screwed up their computers lol |
| 13:44.35 | d5e | ok I thought this was the last question ... if your question is about ubunto consider the ubuntu channel as said by babilen several times |
| 13:44.38 | Diytto | I know :p |
| 13:44.45 | Diytto | I did |
| 13:44.48 | Diytto | No response |
| 13:44.50 | Diytto | :/ |
| 13:45.10 | Diytto | I asked twice and its like i was not there |
| 13:45.14 | jelly | aguitel: basically, you're on your own for squeeze. I won't recommend you to install newer packages for xserver-xorg-video-intel and libgl1-mesa-dri and related stuff because I don't know your skill level. |
| 13:45.27 | babilen | d5e: I am not sure. That device and the LED is working perfectly for me and I never felt the need to dive into the implementation details. |
| 13:45.33 | Diytto | ill just wait until debian is instlled since its better :) |
| 13:45.43 | dkr | Diytto: maybe you used 10 lines to say what could be said in 1 like you are doing here? ;) |
| 13:45.56 | jelly | aguitel: inspect the currently open bugs for xserver-xorg-video-intel package and see if any apply to you. |
| 13:46.01 | d5e | babilen: maybe I just should leave it that way ... probably it wound be a simple config file edit ... |
| 13:46.09 | qwd | babilen: Hey, remember my problem with GRUB, encrypted partitions and LVM? I was able to solve it yesterday http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/recovering-grub-after-windows-installation-encrypted-partitions-and-lvm-842311/#post4149550 just thought you might be interested :) |
| 13:46.12 | Diytto | Nah i used one |
| 13:46.18 | Diytto | :p |
| 13:46.22 | kevke | I have the following problem, I have installed a rtmp server (red5) and installed jdk as well, I think, i have set it up correctly, however, I cannot connect to the rtmp server. I believe I have set up the right ports and they are reachable from the outside. |
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| 13:47.41 | babilen | qwd: Great |
| 13:48.22 | aguitel | jelly, but this question is only in squeeze ? |
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| 13:50.33 | Bastihase | dpkg search xmms |
| 13:50.33 | dpkg | Bastihase: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 13:50.40 | Bastihase | !dpkg search xmms |
| 13:50.46 | djszapi | How can I build development package with dpkg-buildpackage ? |
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| 13:51.18 | qq- | man dpkg-buildpackage |
| 13:51.35 | djszapi | I mean *-dev |
| 13:51.38 | Bastihase | i search xmms for debian? |
| 13:51.40 | jelly | aguitel: I can't really say, as I haven't investigated in detail and don't have your hardware. |
| 13:51.43 | djszapi | the problem is not that I cannot build a package ;) |
| 13:52.02 | qq- | xmms2 |
| 13:52.06 | d5e | babilen: thanks for the help man! |
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| 13:52.38 | qq- | Bastihase, but try audacious |
| 13:52.50 | Bastihase | i will start gparted |
| 13:53.10 | Bastihase | from ssh |
| 13:53.16 | jelly | aguitel: see http://bugs.debian.org/xserver-xorg-video-intel http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/CurrentProblemsInUnstable, and try #debian-x channel on OFTC after you've exhausted your options on the BTS |
| 13:53.22 | babilen | d5e: No problem -- If i stumble over something related I will leave a memo with memoserv. Which laptop do you use? |
| 13:53.37 | aguitel | jelly, ok |
| 13:53.53 | d5e | a BenQ Joybook R55 |
| 13:54.04 | d5e | u need anything more specific ? |
| 13:54.22 | babilen | d5e: No, that'll do :) |
| 13:54.37 | Diytto | A joybook? |
| 13:54.41 | Diytto | Is it cool |
| 13:55.48 | babilen | Let's stop this which-laptop-is-best discussion with the observation that Thinkpads are better than everyhting else. (If you feel the need to continue Ć¢ĀĀ #debian-offtopic) |
| 13:55.54 | Diytto | WOW!! people in #ubuntu fail |
| 13:55.57 | d5e | Diytto, normally we don't ask that but in your case I'm kinda really interested, how old are you ? |
| 13:56.05 | Diytto | Lol babilen |
| 13:56.16 | Diytto | 15 |
| 13:56.17 | babilen | !tell Diytto -about lol |
| 13:57.01 | Diytto | babilen: Nice :p |
| 13:57.15 | Diytto | bwahahaha |
| 13:57.19 | Diytto | :) |
| 13:57.22 | d5e | Babilen: fyc ... I have the dmesg put once again into http://www.uv7.de/ftp/pub/dmesg2 ... there one can see that the driver is registrering 4 LEDs ... but there is actually just one for the wifi |
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| 13:58.53 | Diytto | Actually... I am already in #debian-offtopic :p |
| 13:59.05 | babilen | d5e: Looks like http://paste.debian.net/99081/ for me |
| 13:59.09 | aguitel | jelly, they say to downgrade to kernel 2.6.30 ,how i do that ? |
| 14:00.14 | babilen | d5e: And I also get four led devices -- Lets dig deeper Ć¢ĀĀ¦ |
| 14:00.44 | dkr | "There are *four* lights!" |
| 14:00.46 | jelly | aguitel: are you sure that applies to you? |
| 14:01.29 | aguitel | jelly, say:Older i8xx cards might need to downgrade the kernel to a 2.6.30 |
| 14:01.33 | Diytto | YUS finally got help in #ubuntu |
| 14:01.55 | Diytto | #debian >>>>>>>>> #ubuntu |
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| 14:02.17 | jelly | aguitel: do you understand what "hard freeze" in the title of that chapter means? Does your computer completely freeze sometimes? |
| 14:02.37 | aguitel | jelly, not |
| 14:03.20 | d5e | but you also don't have 4 leds right ? |
| 14:03.27 | jelly | aguitel: I gave you some generic links for help with xserver-xorg-video-intel driver. I didn't mean they would 100% apply to your situation. Read with understanding. |
| 14:03.42 | aguitel | jelly, ok |
| 14:07.40 | babilen | d5e: No, but different colours. Check "ls /sys/class/leds/iwl-phy0\:\:*" |
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| 14:09.09 | babilen | d5e: The "trigger" might be interesting |
| 14:10.17 | babilen | d5e: Also check that the led_class module is loaded (led_class 2433 3 iwl3945,iwlcore,thinkpad_acpi) -- I am not sure how much is handled by the thinkpad_acpi module though :-\ |
| 14:10.43 | d5e | babilen: I did checked that "leds" dir |
| 14:10.46 | babilen | d5e: Anyway -- time for lunch. I guess you have some terms for an extensive google search right now and I wish you good luck :) |
| 14:10.56 | d5e | thanks a lot! |
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| 14:13.40 | d5e | just fyc: led_class 1757 3 iwl3945,iwlcore,sdhci |
| 14:14.11 | Diytto | Wow |
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| 14:14.51 | Diytto | 1607 members in #ubuntu thats amazing |
| 14:16.41 | Diytto | Wow |
| 14:16.49 | Diytto | 709MB iso ftl :/ |
| 14:17.04 | qwd | !offtopic |
| 14:17.04 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 14:17.29 | Diytto | Yea i saw that sry |
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| 14:18.43 | rue_house | so why does the new system I put togethor need to use grub to boot grub to load a kernel that uses an initramfs to boot? |
| 14:20.25 | rue_house | and people critisize me for building my own kernel and using lilo |
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| 14:21.17 | kevke | we are on the verge to establish a small SN and would like to use VideoWhisper. I managed to install red5 and it seams to work (Debian Lenny). However, for what ever reason, I cannot connect to the rmtp server. I all ports necessary are reachable from the otuside. |
| 14:22.36 | abrotman | Diytto: do you have anything Debian-related to say at all? |
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| 14:22.53 | Diytto | Yes |
| 14:23.00 | Diytto | But not atm |
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| 14:31.05 | oldtopman | Is anyone here? |
| 14:31.41 | abrotman | lots of people .. about 700 or so |
| 14:31.46 | Diytto | Yes |
| 14:31.50 | dkr | rue_house: because it means it can use more space and have more features |
| 14:32.08 | abrotman | rue_house: are you chainloading grub1 to grub2 ? |
| 14:32.35 | oldtopman | Is there a way to prevent debian from downloading all of its packages at install time? |
| 14:33.29 | abrotman | what would you prefer it do? |
| 14:33.37 | abrotman | oh .. i just unplug the network cable |
| 14:35.02 | oldtopman | abrotman: then I have to find the repo list and start uncommenting entries. |
| 14:35.10 | oldtopman | THere is no better way? |
| 14:35.37 | abrotman | oldtopman: it's just the way i found the easiest .. it's not hard to setup the network after the install |
| 14:35.44 | abrotman | but if you use the netinst, shouldn't be that many |
| 14:36.00 | oldtopman | I am using debain 504 |
| 14:36.28 | abrotman | the CD? DVD? Netinst? |
| 14:36.33 | oldtopman | And it does the "retrieving packages 3hrs remaining" and it downloads all this stuff |
| 14:36.39 | oldtopman | debian 504 cd |
| 14:37.00 | jhutchins | What replaces konversation in kde4? |
| 14:37.31 | jhutchins | Ah, never mind, it's just not in main. |
| 14:37.51 | jhutchins | How do I get the plasma network manager widget to prompt me for connection info (key)? |
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| 14:38.36 | abrotman | oldtopman: generally you sohuld use the netinst .. |
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| 14:40.56 | oldtopman | Every time I use the netinst, It fails at the installing grub bootloadr stage and won't install lilo |
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| 14:41.18 | abrotman | what is wrong with your system? grub should work |
| 14:43.18 | oldtopman | don't ask. I used another bootloader and that seemed to work but I need the cd to work so I can remake debian: http://sites.google.com/site/toohalves/dev" |
| 14:45.45 | neil_d | for my SBC I am trying to setup an encrypted loopback device ... I have the aes.ko compiled ... and modprobe does load it... but when I do "losetup -e AES256 /dev/loop0 /dev/sda" I get the error "ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument, requested cipher or key length (256 bits) not supported by kernel" what could be wrong? |
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| 14:52.31 | fbs | any tips on installing ati drivers? |
| 14:52.35 | fbs | which drivers should i take/ |
| 14:53.08 | thinksteve | What's your current driver? |
| 14:53.22 | fbs | non |
| 14:53.29 | fbs | fresh install, kernel 2.6.36 |
| 14:53.35 | babilen | fbs: xserver-xorg-video-radeon works fine |
| 14:53.40 | babilen | !radeon |
| 14:53.40 | dpkg | [radeon] A brand of graphic processing units by ATI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Squeeze users: ask me about <radeon firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. See also <radeonhd>, <fglrx>. |
| 14:53.43 | fbs | for 3d? |
| 14:53.47 | fbs | ah |
| 14:54.04 | babilen | fbs: You also need firmware -- /msg dpkg radeon firmware |
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| 14:54.42 | fbs | ty |
| 14:55.09 | solifugus | What's that commandline program that provides a quote of the day? |
| 14:55.16 | AimHere | fortune |
| 14:55.32 | solifugus | ah.. yes.. ok.. thanks.. hadn't used it since Slackware.... back in the 90's.. |
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| 14:56.09 | solifugus | doesn't seem to be in debian lenny repository.. |
| 14:56.21 | AimHere | I bet it is |
| 14:56.30 | solifugus | apt-cache search fortune returns nothing |
| 14:56.31 | AimHere | do an apt-cache search |
| 14:56.51 | solifugus | maybe it's been forgotten |
| 14:56.54 | AimHere | Are you pointing at a limited CD repository? |
| 14:57.04 | AimHere | Fortune is in sid |
| 14:57.18 | solifugus | no.. it's a server.. I see.. so it's not in lenny. dang. |
| 14:57.41 | AimHere | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/fortunes |
| 14:57.41 | solifugus | I wanted to add a quote of the day to a web page.. |
| 14:57.45 | babilen | ,versions fortune-mod |
| 14:57.46 | judd | Package fortune-mod on i386 -- etch: 1:1.99.1-3; lenny: 1:1.99.1-3.1; sid: 1:1.99.1-4; squeeze: 1:1.99.1-4 |
| 14:58.37 | solifugus | installing |
| 14:58.43 | babilen | solifugus: We need the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policu fortune-mod" if you are unable to find that package. |
| 14:59.34 | neil_d | for my SBC I am trying to setup an encrypted loopback device ... I have the aes.ko compiled ... and modprobe does load it... but when I do "losetup -e AES256 /dev/loop0 /dev/sda" I get the error "ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument, requested cipher or key length (256 bits) not supported by kernel" what could be wrong? I have tried various key lengths! |
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| 15:00.08 | solifugus | fortune-mod is there.. searching just for "fortune" doesn't find it. |
| 15:00.15 | solifugus | It is installed now and works.. |
| 15:01.07 | HackeMate | hello, I have a dhcp server and I wanted to rotate its logs. I added log-facility local7; to the dhcpd.conf line, but I don't know where to say I want save the log to /var/log/dhcpd.log, and rotate it |
| 15:01.15 | HackeMate | where can I find information about this? |
| 15:01.46 | fbs | i now have libgl1-mesa-dri xorg-radeon and firmware-linux but the 3d pref still is poor |
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| 15:02.12 | dougmencken | fbs: poor? I have only software rendering at all |
| 15:02.40 | fbs | cant play hedgewars |
| 15:03.03 | dougmencken | fbs: glxinfo | grep -i renderer |
| 15:03.13 | dougmencken | for me it is "OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer" |
| 15:03.36 | fbs | for me the same |
| 15:04.06 | dougmencken | then I understand you; btw, hedgewars' music is perfect |
| 15:04.08 | abrotman | HackeMate: man logrotate ? |
| 15:04.21 | HackeMate | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 15:04.34 | fbs | dougmencken: but if i run it on my laptop: RadeonHD4500 series |
| 15:05.03 | dougmencken | fbs: fine, radeon team loves new cards, especially mobile ones |
| 15:05.40 | fbs | i want the hardware support on my desktop |
| 15:05.52 | dougmencken | fbs: poke airlied at #radeon |
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| 15:06.31 | dougmencken | fbs: and be ready to re-compile kernel or just mesa |
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| 15:07.27 | KjetilK | on lenny, is it possible to configure (as opposed to create scripts) KDE so that XF86AudioLowerVolume decrement with a different value than 10? |
| 15:08.00 | fbs | dougmencken: ill try some fglrx stuff first |
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| 15:10.53 | HackeMate | abrotman: I read man logrotate and it is good, I found some kind of information that I will need, at the moment I didn't find the way to specify <all dhcpd stuff> go to /var/log/dhcpd/ instead /var/log/syslog.log |
| 15:11.49 | abrotman | that's part of your dhcpd configu |
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| 15:12.09 | HackeMate | so I will read the example, thanks again |
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| 15:21.45 | allure | Hi guys.. does anyone know a good online post-grad ? |
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| 15:22.33 | Azrael- | Hi guys. Something funny's going on with my sound. |
| 15:23.06 | Azrael- | Banshee, VLC, etc. all can't play songs (whenever I choose one, they claim they're playing, but it remains at 0:00 into the song) |
| 15:23.11 | Azrael- | But AlsaPlayer can |
| 15:23.33 | Azrael- | It was working before; I've changed no hardware since then. |
| 15:23.50 | Azrael- | Any possible fixes or tests I can do to further diagnose this? |
| 15:24.14 | Azrael- | ...huh |
| 15:24.27 | Azrael- | I just did pulseaudio -k and banshee started playing immediately |
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| 15:25.06 | Azrael- | But now it won't play any other song other than the one it had been left attempting to play. |
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| 15:32.43 | zaarg | hey guys and girls, can i disable apt gpg auth? |
| 15:32.45 | zaarg | dont ask.. |
| 15:33.33 | saulotoledo | Hello all! I need some help with Debian on laptops. I have a high battery use even at extreme powersave mode. powertop shows me "[kernel scheduler] Load balancing tick" using 30 - 70% of my battery. Googling a little I saw this is a kernel bug, but I'm unable to find a fix for Debian. My battery is down in about half of time, isn't good... |
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| 15:34.07 | blue_anna | is "aptitude purge && aptitude install" safe? |
| 15:37.28 | dimir | yes |
| 15:37.33 | dimir | you can aptitude reinstall too |
| 15:38.13 | chalk46 | damn, i was going to ask about apt-pinning a cd set, but I think i figured it out |
| 15:38.37 | blue_anna | chalk46, that sucks :P |
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| 15:38.44 | blue_anna | :) |
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| 15:42.07 | Phantom_Hoover | I keep getting warnings about setlocale, and while they don't seem to be very important, the messages are obnoxious. |
| 15:42.18 | Phantom_Hoover | "setlocale: LC_ALL: cann"ot change locale (en_US.UTF-8) |
| 15:42.23 | Phantom_Hoover | *cannot *" |
| 15:42.46 | vtts | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 15:42.56 | vtts | and add en_US.UTF-8 |
| 15:43.18 | stew | zaarg: try adding --allow-unauthenticated |
| 15:43.19 | neil_d | any idea why "losetup /dev/loop0" would give the error "loop: can't get info on device /dev/loop0: No such device or address" when the device does exist according to ls? |
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| 15:46.08 | Phantom_Hoover | vtts, thanks. |
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| 15:47.11 | karlpinc | neil_d: You're not root or otherwise do not have permissions? |
| 15:47.27 | neil_d | karlpinc: I am root. |
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| 15:49.28 | Cat2008 | Hello! |
| 15:49.44 | neil_d | karlpinc: the permissions are "brw-rw---- 1 root disk 7, 0 Jan 1 1970 /dev/loop0" |
| 15:50.29 | Cat2008 | I`v got some problems with debian lenny's mount program. |
| 15:50.58 | Cat2008 | It can't read ext4 =/ |
| 15:51.53 | Cat2008 | And i _need_ to mount ext4 FS, to find Ubuntu kernel for grub. |
| 15:52.04 | Cat2008 | Can anybody help me? |
| 15:52.45 | neil_d | Cat2008: there is an #ubuntu channel |
| 15:52.59 | Cat2008 | and?) |
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| 15:53.30 | feitingen | Cat2008: run grep ext /proc/filesystems and see if ext4 is listed, if not, modprobe ext4. |
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| 15:54.42 | Cat2008 | It can`t found ext4 module. |
| 15:54.45 | Cat2008 | =/ |
| 15:54.58 | Cat2008 | *couldnt find |
| 15:55.18 | Cat2008 | **coulden't find |
| 15:55.19 | feitingen | then you will not be able to mount ext4 with this kernel unless you compile it. please upgrade. |
| 15:55.54 | danslo | Cat2008: couldn't find** |
| 15:56.32 | Cat2008 | Thnx, danslo |
| 15:57.04 | Cat2008 | It was my first problem. 2nd : |
| 15:58.43 | Cat2008 | Pressing CTRL in console switches layout to cyrilic, so i can't use ctrl+o (ctrl+z, etc). |
| 15:59.17 | Cat2008 | I have opened GRUB conf. file, but i can't save it 8) |
| 15:59.58 | Cat2008 | can anybody help me? |
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| 16:03.15 | Cat2008 | Kernel upgraded. |
| 16:03.27 | Cat2008 | It does not matter -_- |
| 16:03.42 | Cat2008 | Anybody alive? |
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| 16:05.12 | dougmencken | uh |
| 16:05.58 | chalk46 | yeah i'm alive, just got this thing i'm workin on |
| 16:06.38 | newsense | i need to install some OS alongside debian and am sure it's going to want to use it's bootloader and overwrite my MBR, what's the best way to recover from this ? |
| 16:06.47 | chalk46 | i ran ext4 for a while and in the end lost a ton of stuff.. ext4 isn't my friend >_> |
| 16:08.24 | newsense | basically, how do i get grub working again after my MBR gets overwritten ? |
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| 16:09.18 | binarym | hi buddies :) |
| 16:09.33 | koollman | newsense: run some livecd or anything booting a linux, run grub-install (something like 'grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/yourrealrootdir/ /dev/yourdisk) |
| 16:10.15 | newsense | debian got no debianized grub right ? |
| 16:10.21 | newsense | should be all the same ? |
| 16:10.26 | stew | newsense: if you know ahead of time it is going to happen, you can save the mbr beforehand with "dd if=/dev/whatever of=/path/to/save count=1" and restore it with the converse |
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| 16:10.28 | newsense | i got no debian live disk |
| 16:11.01 | koollman | newsense: it's just grub. you can also use the grub from inside your debian install to be extra sure (if there's only grub1 or grub2, and your debian install use the other one) |
| 16:11.21 | koollman | newsense: grub-install will fail if it doesn't find what it's looking for, anyway |
| 16:12.24 | ScottO_ | no matter what device i give udevtest, it tells me its 'unable to open device' |
| 16:12.38 | ScottO_ | not a very good test tool if it doesnt work :/ |
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| 16:16.07 | binarym | i have a little problem ... in order to create my own debian-cd, i want to automaticaly fetch a set of packages (base packages and some more) from two repository: debian official and backports. So i set up a tree with ./backports/{apt.conf,sources.list} ./debian/{apt.conf,sources.list} and ./common-apt containing .deb's cache, dpkg.status file, etc... My problem is that fist, i fetch debian repository first, everything is OK. Then i try to fetch |
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| 16:16.39 | dougmencken | so a question |
| 16:16.57 | dougmencken | having all my tiny experience with gnu/linux and different distros, I'm asking only one thing: why none of them include quake-style X terminal emulator (tilda, guake, qakuake) by default? |
| 16:17.19 | dougmencken | it is absolutely *a must*, and is very and very easy to use (rather than clicking in menus, you just press F1 or other single key) |
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| 16:18.04 | dougmencken | instead of having it out-of-the-box, I must install it manually |
| 16:18.05 | binarym | dougmencken: apt-get install tilda on ubuntu works ... |
| 16:18.18 | jhutchins_lt2 | dougmencken: I would guess that it's because 99% of linux users have never heard of it. |
| 16:18.51 | binarym | uhuh: zsh: segmentation fault tilda |
| 16:18.55 | dougmencken | jhutchins_lt2: 99% of linux users never heard about ... say kernel, so what? |
| 16:19.08 | binarym | dougmencken: kernel is mandatory |
| 16:19.15 | stew | X is certainly not manditory |
| 16:19.20 | binarym | even Xorg isn't mandatory on a debian system |
| 16:19.33 | stew | certainly not. wouldn't make sense on a headless server, for instance |
| 16:19.33 | jhutchins_lt2 | dougmencken: So you can't expect distributions to cater to your obscure ideosyncracies. |
| 16:19.59 | dougmencken | binarym: yep, it of course is; jhutchins_lt2: do you have quake-style terminal emulator? |
| 16:20.19 | stew | he's trolling |
| 16:20.30 | jhutchins_lt2 | dougmencken: I have no idea what a quake-style terminal emulator is. Isn't quake a fps game? |
| 16:20.39 | Diytto | Hey |
| 16:20.39 | newsense | stew, you said something like, dd if=/dev/sda1 of=mbr.img count=1 would work right ? |
| 16:21.01 | dougmencken | jhutchins_lt2: which is your primary terminal emulator now? |
| 16:21.01 | stew | newsense: you'd want /dev/sda not /dev/sda1 |
| 16:21.14 | jhutchins_lt2 | Probably konsole. |
| 16:21.21 | llutz | dougmencken: people knowing this kind of terminal will also know how to install it. others won't miss |
| 16:21.35 | newsense | stew: oh ok good thing i asked, thanks again |
| 16:21.40 | ScottO_ | will fsck -p on a device not run if the device is listed under fstab as 0 for the pass-num ? |
| 16:21.59 | Mr_Queue | I have daily log entries such as the following.. All from the same source, on the same network.. infected machine? |
| 16:22.02 | Mr_Queue | Dropped 262 packets on interface wlan0 |
| 16:22.02 | karlpinc | dougmencken: You want it in debian, submit a bug report for packaging. |
| 16:22.05 | Mr_Queue | From 192.168.1.103 - 262 packets to tcp(80,81,139,443,515,2191,9100) |
| 16:22.07 | dougmencken | llutz: so situation to not to include it on say livecds will not change... |
| 16:22.22 | Cat2008 | ĆĀĆĀ»ĆĀĆĀ½ -_- |
| 16:22.27 | newsense | haha |
| 16:22.27 | dougmencken | karlpinc: really worth it, thanks, will do |
| 16:22.52 | karlpinc | dougmencken: I forget what virtual package you file against. |
| 16:22.57 | stew | karlpinc: it already is packaged |
| 16:23.09 | karlpinc | !tell Cat2008 about ru |
| 16:23.10 | llutz | karlpinc: they already are in the repos (guake, tilda, yakuake) |
| 16:23.19 | Cat2008 | ru? |
| 16:23.26 | Cat2008 | i am from ua) |
| 16:23.34 | Diytto | P soon i will need help installing debian |
| 16:23.36 | Diytto | :) |
| 16:23.37 | dougmencken | llutz: I'm about to include it on livecds |
| 16:23.44 | Cat2008 | and there is NOBODY |
| 16:24.07 | karlpinc | dougmencken: If you want it on a live cd, build your own with live-helper or just install it after booting. |
| 16:24.12 | franki^ | To be honest, I'm not sure how useful a Quake-style terminal [C[C[C[C[C[Cis. I'd say that most people who use the terminal a lot wouldn't want one. It's really only useful if you need to quickly enter commands whilst doing something else, like playing Quake... |
| 16:24.21 | franki^ | Oops, lag :s |
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| 16:24.55 | karlpinc | Cat2008: Ok. But this channel is english only. |
| 16:25.19 | Cat2008 | I know |
| 16:25.26 | dougmencken | karlpinc: I'm using livecds in places with no internet connection, and tilda is ~10KiB only, not so hard to include, and shall I need to re-build my own livecd each time? |
| 16:25.48 | Cat2008 | so, what about mounting ext4 in Debian? |
| 16:25.51 | karlpinc | dougmencken: Yes. |
| 16:26.01 | Cat2008 | i really need it |
| 16:26.20 | dougmencken | Cat2008: which version of Debain? which kernel? |
| 16:26.37 | Cat2008 | lenny |
| 16:26.42 | karlpinc | Cat2008: Install a newer kernel from backports. |
| 16:26.50 | Cat2008 | -2.6.26-2-686 |
| 16:27.06 | Cat2008 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.06 | dougmencken | Cat2008: then yes, upgrade your kernel, ext4 is smth for 6.30+ |
| 16:27.13 | pallgone | how do I downgrade a package? I installed inkscape from -t experimental and want to get back to the squeeze version? |
| 16:27.18 | Cat2008 | hmm |
| 16:27.21 | karlpinc | !downgrade |
| 16:27.21 | dpkg | [downgrade] Downgrading is not possible with apt-get/aptitude and no future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 16:27.49 | pallgone | hmm |
| 16:27.50 | karlpinc | pallgone: You probably want the partial downgrade factoid. |
| 16:27.55 | Cat2008 | how can i upgrade kernel, when i don't know PKG's name?) |
| 16:28.07 | dougmencken | Cat2008: ls /boot |
| 16:28.09 | karlpinc | !tell Cat2008 about search |
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| 16:30.18 | jhutchins_lt2 | pallgone: Uninstall the package, re-install without experimental. |
| 16:30.19 | Cat2008 | search... pkg is not found >_> |
| 16:30.21 | pallgone | karlpinc: ah, nice, aptitude suggested to downgrade when I tried to remove the package : |
| 16:31.06 | dougmencken | franki^: it is the most usefult thing; how to launch say mplayer? you may click-click-click, right-click, open with, click, mplayer, click; and you can just [F1] (or any key you set up) then mplayer ~/Mu[TAB]Wagner[TAB]Ring[TAB]* |
| 16:31.31 | dougmencken | it saves a lot of time |
| 16:31.38 | Diytto | K im in the installer |
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| 16:31.56 | Diytto | Im at the boot prompt |
| 16:32.10 | Diytto | Should i do install or install video=ofonly |
| 16:32.17 | pallgone | ok, the behavior was normal, back to experimental version :) |
| 16:32.22 | franki^ | dougmencken: I just type "mplayer", I always have a terminal open.. |
| 16:32.42 | dougmencken | Diytto: powerpc user? second one? |
| 16:32.50 | Diytto | What? |
| 16:32.59 | Diytto | I just did install |
| 16:33.16 | Diytto | :s |
| 16:33.24 | dougmencken | Diytto: OpenFirmware is only for us, powerpc users |
| 16:33.27 | Diytto | Its loading everything |
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| 16:33.40 | Diytto | What is openfirmware |
| 16:33.54 | dougmencken | Diytto: okay, sorry, forget it |
| 16:33.59 | Diytto | You are on a ppc too? |
| 16:34.01 | Diytto | :D |
| 16:34.01 | Tekk_ | I just noticed a problem........what's the naming convention going to be when we run out of toy story characters? |
| 16:34.15 | Diytto | Lol |
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| 16:34.52 | Diytto | Ok i am on the netowork setup |
| 16:34.57 | dougmencken | Diytto: well, yes, what does Debian use now as bootloader? still yaboot? |
| 16:35.03 | Diytto | Yes |
| 16:35.09 | franki^ | Tekk_: We just hope they keep making new films. :P |
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| 16:35.56 | Diytto | In the network setup it asks for a wpa key |
| 16:35.58 | Diytto | Er |
| 16:36.00 | Diytto | Wep |
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| 16:36.05 | Diytto | My network has wpa |
| 16:36.07 | Tekk_ | franki^: good point, but now that I think about it we really shouldn't worry. we probably have another good 20 years in us if we use all the minor characters added in 3 |
| 16:36.08 | Diytto | What do i do |
| 16:36.19 | Diytto | ^^ |
| 16:37.01 | rek | hi what is sudoers list?why does debian tell me package x is not installable after i do apt-get install aMule ? i did apt-get update |
| 16:37.24 | franki^ | Tekk_: I still haven't seen three, I'm so behind the times. :( |
| 16:37.45 | Tekk_ | rek: the sudoers list is a text file that lists the users who are allowed to sudo. It's really dangerous so it's disabled by default |
| 16:37.46 | binarym | dougmencken: do you know gnome-do ? |
| 16:38.02 | Tekk_ | rek: you can use su -c 'command' as a replacement if you like |
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| 16:38.33 | rek | tekk so ubuntu is a danger itself |
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| 16:38.43 | dougmencken | binarym: I can search for it |
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| 16:38.47 | Diytto | GAIS |
| 16:38.48 | Diytto | HALP |
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| 16:39.08 | Diytto | How do i use a wpa key for the network for the installer |
| 16:39.09 | Phantom_Hoover | Any particular reason my backlight controls no longer have any effect? |
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| 16:39.16 | Phantom_Hoover | Diytto, you don't. |
| 16:39.20 | ketsa | Hello, is there a GUI for printers admin in debian ? (lpc lpadmin etc.) cant find anything. |
| 16:39.22 | Diytto | :O |
| 16:39.24 | Diytto | :( |
| 16:39.30 | Diytto | Can i use wpa later? |
| 16:39.33 | Phantom_Hoover | You find an ethernet cable and stick it into the computer, or switch the network to WEP. |
| 16:39.35 | Phantom_Hoover | And yes. |
| 16:39.40 | Diytto | Ok |
| 16:39.44 | binarym | dougmencken: i think you'll like |
| 16:39.46 | Tekk_ | Phantom_Hoover: did you change your wm/de recently? |
| 16:40.02 | Tekk_ | Phantom_Hoover: for example, my brightness control works in gnome but not KDE |
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| 16:40.25 | Diytto | :3 |
| 16:40.31 | binarym | dougmencken: you launch it with a sequence of key and then begin typing what you wanna launch (mplayer/shutdown/whatever) and gnome-do provides you a list of every matching items |
| 16:40.34 | rek | Tekk_: i uncommented the lines in sources.list but im not able to install anything via apt-get |
| 16:40.36 | Phantom_Hoover | Tekk_, well, it was at normal brightness, then I ran fs2_open, then it went darker and the controls didn't work. |
| 16:40.56 | binarym | dougmencken: it has plugin to search on firefox bookmarks, rhythmbox playlist and tracks, etc... |
| 16:41.01 | Tekk_ | rek: and you apt-get updated correct? |
| 16:41.10 | rek | yes |
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| 16:41.15 | Tekk_ | or I suppose you're supposed to aptitude update now.. |
| 16:41.23 | Tekk_ | rek: paste the output? |
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| 16:41.30 | rek | idid apt-get update |
| 16:41.44 | Tekk_ | I know |
| 16:41.49 | Tekk_ | what's the output when you try to install? |
| 16:41.53 | rek | it's another pc next to me |
| 16:42.02 | karlpinc | rek: Does it have network? |
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| 16:42.28 | Tekk_ | karlpinc: I'm assuming so since the update apparently worked |
| 16:42.28 | rek | dependencies: bla bla bla but it's not installable |
| 16:42.41 | Tekk_ | rek: actual paste? http://dpaste.com |
| 16:42.46 | rek | yes if i connect a long wire till my studio |
| 16:43.05 | ZinovaS | how could i find out what driver my mobo neads for watchdog? |
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| 16:43.45 | Diytto | I am glad i did a dvd installer |
| 16:43.46 | rek | rt73 is recognized but i cant conect there's not any nm-applet iw or ifconfig and in admbinistration i found something... at the boot i see network is down wlan0 |
| 16:43.47 | Tekk_ | ZinovaS: dmesg | grep dog maybe?(complete stab in the dark) |
| 16:43.51 | Diytto | The 4.4 GB one |
| 16:43.52 | karlpinc | rek: If you have network use pastebinit. (or cut and paste, etc to a pastebin.) |
| 16:44.12 | dougmencken | binarym: sorry, not my tool, I can use find |
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| 16:44.19 | dougmencken | (from findutils) |
| 16:44.26 | Phantom_Hoover | Tekk_, are there any config things I could twiddle with? |
| 16:44.27 | rek | is there irssi in debian ? so that i can paste it? |
| 16:44.40 | rek | or i will install puppy |
| 16:44.48 | Tekk_ | rek: ..........you have main enabled, right? |
| 16:44.57 | dougmencken | rek: apt-get install irssi |
| 16:45.07 | binarym | dougmencken: you can use find to search on firefox bookmarks ? wow impressive ... give me your version number, i want the same ;) |
| 16:45.08 | stew | rek: realize that all package names are all lowercase, so you should be looking for amule not aMule |
| 16:45.18 | rek | main what? |
| 16:45.25 | rek | amule sorry |
| 16:45.26 | Tekk_ | the main repository |
| 16:45.29 | Tekk_ | all the free software....? |
| 16:45.33 | dougmencken | binarym: I don't have many bookmarks :) |
| 16:45.37 | rek | dougmencken: can't install things |
| 16:45.54 | rek | don't know |
| 16:45.55 | Phantom_Hoover | rek, what comes up when you try? |
| 16:46.07 | rek | let me switch on the computer |
| 16:46.22 | stew | rek: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" in a paste site |
| 16:46.23 | dougmencken | rek: do it |
| 16:46.38 | rek | ok |
| 16:47.03 | Tekk_ | failing this he can always open up the gui sources and point it to the real main server, it's hard to mess that one up.(will admit to doind it when he's frustrated enough) |
| 16:47.06 | Diytto | Its installing the kernel :) |
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| 16:48.34 | dougmencken | binarym: find "${HOME}"/.mozilla -name bookmarks.html -print0 | xargs -0 grep whatever |
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| 16:48.54 | michalxo | hello all! |
| 16:49.03 | Diytto | Hi! |
| 16:49.32 | michalxo | I am having a problem with my SE k510 mobile phone.. connecting with debian laptop via USB cable (BTooth is neither not working.. somehow) |
| 16:49.41 | michalxo | [ 816.632088] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 25 |
| 16:49.41 | michalxo | [ 817.048110] usb 2-1: device not accepting address 25, error -71 |
| 16:49.41 | michalxo | [ 817.048147] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 |
| 16:49.58 | michalxo | I was googling but I've found no info about such a problem |
| 16:50.06 | michalxo | I am on 2.6.35-5 amd64 |
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| 16:52.26 | HTT-Bird | does the Mesa version (7.7.1) in Debian testing use Gallium drivers, or "classic" Mesa/DRI drivers? |
| 16:52.54 | ketsa | Hello, is there a GUI application for printers admin in debian ? (lpc lpadmin lpr etc) cant find anything. ?? |
| 16:53.37 | HTT-Bird | ketsa, CUPS provides a browser interface |
| 16:53.42 | HTT-Bird | http://localhost:631/ |
| 16:53.44 | somiaj | ketsa: cups can be controled/confgiured via a webpage |
| 16:55.30 | ZinovaS | installed watchdog but /dev/watchdog isn't there :/ http://dpaste.com/270977/ |
| 16:55.39 | ketsa | ooh nice, what is the port for cups admin ? |
| 16:55.48 | HTT-Bird | ketsa, 631, as my link says. :) |
| 16:57.06 | ketsa | Thanks all ) |
| 16:57.09 | Diytto | :) |
| 16:59.08 | ZinovaS | thats my first watchdog installation, so i probably missing something.. |
| 16:59.19 | somiaj | ZinovaS: have you read though /usr/share/doc/watchdog -- maybe it says something about creating the device |
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| 17:00.30 | ZinovaS | hmm.. was reading few tutorials that says the device should apear automagicaly ;) |
| 17:01.02 | somiaj | ZinovaS: what version of debian? |
| 17:01.22 | ZinovaS | latest 5.0.6 |
| 17:01.28 | ZinovaS | amd64 |
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| 17:06.28 | g00se | I'm on irc to my hosting co. Is it true that Plesk doesn't ordinarily support rsync? |
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| 17:07.00 | stew | g00se: perhaps ask ##plesk |
| 17:07.41 | g00se | stew: OK. Wanted to get an 'independent' but .. good idea ;) |
| 17:07.55 | g00se | Thanks |
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| 17:10.07 | jhutchins_lt2 | Everything seems to be working find on the new netbook, but it keeps dropping it's connection, and there's a significant lag on ssh connections. |
| 17:11.00 | Diytto | :o |
| 17:11.03 | Diytto | ;( |
| 17:11.06 | zaarg | is it possible to bypas lvm to pull the raw data off a block device? |
| 17:12.00 | stew | zaarg: you could talk directly to the PVs, but why? |
| 17:12.39 | jhutchins_lt2 | Very strange, connections to local hosts take about ten seconds, remote host about three. |
| 17:13.58 | anisfarhana | stew |
| 17:14.59 | ZinovaS | how to test watchdog? killing watchdog process did not helped.. system didn't rebooted |
| 17:17.34 | rek | http://pastebin.com/3yqDaLxm Tekk_ |
| 17:19.23 | Tekk_ | uhh, we have any I guess italian speakers here? |
| 17:20.01 | anisfarhana | call Google Translator |
| 17:20.01 | Tekk_ | I think it's saying that those things are uninstallable because they don't pass a checksum, but I don't speak the language |
| 17:20.05 | rek | http://pastebin.com/CgfNUq3b Tekk_ |
| 17:20.19 | rek | you recognized the language |
| 17:20.23 | jhutchins_lt2 | Wow - all of the Acer netbook's function keys work! |
| 17:20.31 | rek | ask me the meaning of the words |
| 17:20.38 | Tekk_ | it was little more than a best guess :P |
| 17:20.41 | stew | rek: /msg dpkg lenny sources.list |
| 17:20.42 | Tekk_ | hold on, eating |
| 17:21.17 | stew | rek: volatile (the only repository you have) is not a full mirror. it only has a small subset of packages |
| 17:21.29 | rek | you're eating |
| 17:21.43 | rek | so? |
| 17:22.19 | Tekk_ | so I'm distracted |
| 17:22.19 | rek | you're giving me some new lines to add to sources.list |
| 17:22.27 | Tekk_ | you'll find stew answered your question |
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| 17:22.40 | abrotman | !tell rek about sources.list |
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| 17:26.17 | Diytto | Okay i am at the installer an it asks about utc |
| 17:26.26 | Diytto | I have osx |
| 17:26.36 | Diytto | Should i enable it? |
| 17:26.43 | Diytto | Or no |
| 17:26.51 | dougmencken | Diytto: yeah, having system clock in UTC is a good idea |
| 17:26.57 | Diytto | Ok |
| 17:27.02 | Diytto | Well |
| 17:27.16 | Diytto | It asks if the system clock is set to utc |
| 17:27.20 | Diytto | Idk if it is or not |
| 17:27.21 | rek | what? |
| 17:27.26 | Diytto | What do i do |
| 17:27.33 | Diytto | Yes or no |
| 17:27.45 | dougmencken | Diytto: any, you can always adjust clock |
| 17:28.04 | Diytto | Okay |
| 17:28.11 | Diytto | I put yes |
| 17:28.21 | Diytto | Just yay |
| 17:28.27 | Diytto | Restarting |
| 17:28.28 | dougmencken | Diytto: if you were on 10.5, it is okay |
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| 17:28.42 | Diytto | Lol its booting to osx :3 |
| 17:28.46 | dougmencken | Diytto: ta-dam |
| 17:28.49 | Diytto | Owait |
| 17:28.50 | Diytto | Nvm |
| 17:28.53 | Diytto | Wtf is this |
| 17:29.05 | rek | !sources |
| 17:29.05 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 17:29.07 | dougmencken | Diytto: try "option" key on bootup |
| 17:29.07 | Diytto | O.o |
| 17:29.14 | Diytto | Oshit |
| 17:29.16 | stew | Diytto: please hit enter less often |
| 17:29.29 | Diytto | I think it went to installer? :O |
| 17:29.32 | rek | !can you help me to add some lines? |
| 17:29.57 | Diytto | O.o |
| 17:30.17 | dougmencken | Diytto: looks like you saw a million of dollars ;) |
| 17:30.18 | Diytto | Ummmmm my screen is not working |
| 17:30.38 | Diytto | It says x server failed ti start |
| 17:30.48 | dougmencken | Diytto: tell me your card, please? if it is ATi Rage Pro, I will not work |
| 17:30.55 | Diytto | Uhhhh |
| 17:30.57 | Diytto | 1 sec |
| 17:31.08 | zaarg | stew: long story...trying to save data |
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| 17:31.19 | zaarg | got two vol groups fo the same name |
| 17:31.25 | zaarg | can't rename them by uuid |
| 17:31.27 | Diytto | Where is it in the computer |
| 17:31.29 | zaarg | despite what the docuemntation says... |
| 17:31.48 | dougmencken | Diytto: are you on linux or on os x now? |
| 17:31.59 | Diytto | Linux |
| 17:31.59 | Diytto | Ish |
| 17:32.09 | dougmencken | Diytto: so lspci | grep VGA |
| 17:32.10 | Diytto | I just opened the computer |
| 17:33.00 | dougmencken | Diytto: close it, boot it in OSX then |
| 17:33.03 | Diytto | K |
| 17:33.05 | Diytto | 1 sec |
| 17:33.10 | rozie | Diytto: behave like civilized man. run lspci |
| 17:33.27 | dougmencken | Diytto: use "Option" key on bootup and choose disk with "X" |
| 17:34.23 | Diytto | I have a nvidia card |
| 17:35.08 | Diytto | GeForce MX 440 |
| 17:35.11 | dougmencken | Diytto: PCI, AGP, PCI_X, PCI_e? |
| 17:35.25 | Diytto | For what? |
| 17:35.25 | stew | (does it matter?) |
| 17:35.55 | Diytto | PCI for what |
| 17:35.58 | dougmencken | okay okay, I haven't seen the model |
| 17:36.23 | Diytto | O.o |
| 17:36.26 | Diytto | How do i reboot |
| 17:36.29 | Diytto | Reboot failed |
| 17:36.48 | dougmencken | Diytto: button with traingle |
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| 17:37.09 | Diytto | O.O what? |
| 17:37.46 | Diytto | The eject key? |
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| 17:38.31 | Tekk_ | uhh....yeah, you need the disk out |
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| 17:40.44 | Bop | just saying that arduino package fails to load in debian squeeze |
| 17:42.28 | Tekk_ | Bop: can't replicate |
| 17:42.40 | Bop | opens there ? |
| 17:42.43 | stew | Bop: did you check the bts? |
| 17:42.45 | Tekk_ | yep, installing just fine |
| 17:42.55 | Bop | what about running ? |
| 17:42.56 | stew | Bop: /msg dpkg bat |
| 17:43.03 | Bop | installs fine here too |
| 17:43.45 | Tekk_ | runs fine |
| 17:43.53 | Bop | oO |
| 17:45.06 | Tekk_ | not even output to the terminal |
| 17:45.15 | Bop | i have some lines |
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| 17:45.42 | Tekk_ | maybe it's exclusive to your arch |
| 17:45.48 | Tekk_ | you neglected to mention it |
| 17:46.16 | Bop | my arch ? x86 debian testing |
| 17:46.18 | Bop | java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no rxtxSerial in java.library.path thrown while loading gnu.io.RXTXCommDriver |
| 17:46.18 | Bop | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no rxtxSerial in java.library.path |
| 17:46.24 | Tekk_ | texting x86 |
| 17:46.31 | Tekk_ | okay, brb, I have that installed on here too |
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| 17:47.03 | stew | Bop: what does "readlink -f $(which java)" reutrn? |
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| 17:47.23 | Bop | /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.22/jre/bin/java |
| 17:47.52 | Bop | i can run jdownloader |
| 17:47.58 | Bop | so java is fine , i guess |
| 17:48.42 | jhutchins_lt2 | Any tips on getting wep working with kde4 network manager applets? |
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| 17:49.35 | Bop | what doesnt work , jhutchins_lt2 ? |
| 17:50.00 | Bop | network manager is supposed to support wifi |
| 17:50.04 | jhutchins_lt2 | When I click on a network it doesn't ask me for credentials or anything |
| 17:50.05 | Tekk_ | Bop: unpacking on my 686 |
| 17:50.27 | jhutchins_lt2 | Worked... no, wait that was a different laptop with Lenny. |
| 17:50.45 | Tekk_ | Bop: still can't replicate |
| 17:50.49 | Bop | damn |
| 17:50.56 | Bop | ok thanks Tekk_ |
| 17:50.56 | jhutchins_lt2 | It's supposed to work even if you don't use kwallet. |
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| 17:51.15 | stew | Bop: i'd see if it works with openjdk-6 |
| 17:51.16 | Bop | jhutchins_lt2, i use wicd |
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| 17:51.37 | stew | Bop: and, of course, check the bts for arduino and librxtx-java |
| 17:51.46 | jhutchins_lt2 | I may try that. Neither one worked on the toshiba |
| 17:51.49 | Tekk_ | Bop: were pulling from sid maybe? |
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| 17:51.58 | Bop | no , testing repositories |
| 17:52.07 | Tekk_ | okay, just making sure |
| 17:52.08 | Bop | stew, i just wanted to check the version |
| 17:52.21 | Bop | i dont have arduino boards , its just for a friend |
| 17:52.21 | Tekk_ | ah, but yeah I used openjdk's runtime |
| 17:52.23 | stew | Bop: what do you mean? |
| 17:52.37 | Tekk_ | so if you're using the nonfree java that might be it |
| 17:52.40 | Bop | to check if squeeze version is updateds |
| 17:52.42 | Bop | to check if squeeze version is updated |
| 17:52.50 | stew | !versions arduino |
| 17:52.59 | stew | ,versions arduino |
| 17:53.00 | judd | Package arduino on i386 -- squeeze: 0018+dfsg-4; sid: 0018+dfsg-6; experimental: 0021+dfsg-2 |
| 17:53.12 | Bop | that's easier :p |
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| 17:53.37 | stew | Bop: you can also get this info from http://packages.debian.org/arduino |
| 17:53.52 | Bop | ok ok , thanks |
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| 17:57.33 | jhutchins_lt | So I wonder what's wrong with my network manager setup. |
| 17:57.53 | Tekk_ | you have the drivers and firmware you need? |
| 17:59.37 | jhutchins_lt | Tekk_: Me? Online now with a static config. |
| 18:02.31 | Tekk_ | okay |
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| 18:13.55 | rek | hi Tekk_ |
| 18:13.58 | rek | i'm waiting |
| 18:14.00 | rek | what can i do |
| 18:14.05 | Tekk_ | rek: oh, sorry |
| 18:14.22 | Tekk_ | you open up sources.list, copy the line that says volatile and paste it |
| 18:14.27 | stew | rek: did you add a main mirror to your sources.list? |
| 18:14.30 | Tekk_ | then you change volatile to main |
| 18:14.33 | stew | no |
| 18:14.38 | rek | which? |
| 18:14.51 | rek | no |
| 18:14.54 | stew | rek: /msg dpkg lenny sources.list |
| 18:15.06 | rek | ? |
| 18:15.24 | Tekk_ | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main #Added by software-properties |
| 18:15.24 | Tekk_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.37 | Tekk_ | add that |
| 18:15.49 | stew | except change "stable" to lenny |
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| 18:16.05 | Tekk_ | stew: really? |
| 18:16.08 | stew | yes |
| 18:16.14 | Tekk_ | I keep mine set to testing so I don't get sucked into stable territory :P |
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| 18:16.46 | rek | us? |
| 18:16.48 | rek | it? |
| 18:16.49 | stew | Tekk_: if he has stable in there, when stable switches to squeeze, things will go wrong, switching from one stable release to another should be done deliberately |
| 18:16.59 | jhutchins_lt | stew: Any tips on the wifi manager? |
| 18:17.00 | Tekk_ | ah, okay |
| 18:17.08 | stew | rek: if you are in itally, yes, you should switch from us to it |
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| 18:17.13 | rek | ok can i use testing? |
| 18:17.26 | stew | rek: not until you get lenny working |
| 18:19.48 | rek | Tekk_: why didn't i have that line? where have you find that line?what's the purpose of my dources.list lines that don't work at all? |
| 18:20.05 | Tekk_ | rek: you probably deleted it |
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| 18:20.57 | stew | rek: your lines do work. the purpose of security.debian.org is to provide security patches to software found in main. its not a full repository, just packages which have been updated |
| 18:21.11 | rek | Tekk_ has quit |
| 18:21.30 | stew | rek: volatile is a partial repository only intended to contain software which needs frequent updates, such as spam or virus software |
| 18:21.40 | rek | stew: a few only |
| 18:22.00 | rek | stew: where's sudoers |
| 18:22.13 | stew | rek: in /etc once you install the sudo package |
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| 18:23.55 | anisfarhana | stew: by installing sudo packages , do root login automatically disabled ? |
| 18:24.06 | stew | anisfarhana: no |
| 18:24.32 | anisfarhana | stew: So i guess i need to disable first the root login from ssh ? |
| 18:24.48 | stew | i don't know? |
| 18:24.55 | stew | i'm not sure I understand the question |
| 18:24.59 | rek | stew: where could i have found the deb line? |
| 18:25.19 | nijan | Hello, this is a really weird problem, To connect to the internet i have to authenticate through this page: https://auth3.unipi.it/auth/perfigo_weblogin.jsp?cm=ws32vklm Using linux, no matter the browser or the distro, it idles forever and wont load nor return any errors. thanks a lot |
| 18:25.28 | anisfarhana | stew: I'm just wondering what is good about sudoers |
| 18:25.40 | yagoo | anisfarhana, there's only one sudo application.. to do sudo with different programs u configure /etc/sudoers |
| 18:25.40 | nijan | any idea would be much appreciated |
| 18:25.58 | stew | rek: man sources.list ; /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list, i also told you a few times where to find it here |
| 18:26.45 | anisfarhana | yagoo: I understand what is sudo , i just wondering what is good about sudo , i don't use it though. |
| 18:26.47 | rek | nice |
| 18:27.22 | yagoo | anisfarhana, if u read online some say it's supposed to be phasing out from something else.. probably selinux related |
| 18:27.30 | stew | anisfarhana: it allows you to give a user privileges to run stuff as another user (such as root) without giving them full access to the account |
| 18:27.34 | stew | anisfarhana: and its use is logged |
| 18:28.39 | anisfarhana | stew: So if i know the root password , does sudo still make sense ? |
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| 18:29.06 | yagoo | anisfarhana, sudo allows you to be root-- otherwise known as privileged mode in order to just change one or two crucial things at a time for the whole system |
| 18:29.30 | nijan | i forgot to say that it actually works well on win |
| 18:29.51 | yagoo | anisfarhana, the idea is not to use the root account at all. that way sudo is safer.. |
| 18:30.08 | anisfarhana | yagoo: right. |
| 18:30.48 | yagoo | anisfarhana, read online.. supposedly sudo is supposed to be phased out. sudo imho may be an artifac in some time |
| 18:30.56 | Diytto | Hey guys how do join a wpa woreless network in terminal |
| 18:30.57 | Diytto | Ttyl |
| 18:31.09 | Diytto | Hey anisfarhana ! |
| 18:31.20 | anisfarhana | yagoo: phased out you mean will not use anymore in future ? |
| 18:31.41 | yagoo | anisfarhana, having less significance.. |
| 18:31.48 | anisfarhana | Diytto: Hey , i think i met you somewhere on freenode before |
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| 18:32.39 | anisfarhana | Diytto: Usually i just use su - if i need root access. |
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| 18:33.40 | Diytto | anisfarhana: I think on sauriks net? |
| 18:33.46 | Diytto | :s |
| 18:33.54 | anisfarhana | Diytto: ahaha yes! |
| 18:34.16 | Diytto | :) |
| 18:35.10 | anisfarhana | Diytto: apt-get install iphone :D |
| 18:35.48 | Diytto | O.o |
| 18:35.50 | Diytto | Lolwat |
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| 18:36.58 | xyan | Diytto: install wpa_supplicant, read its manpage and create your nifty wpa config |
| 18:37.53 | binbrain | I think I found a bug in something to do with python deb packaging. if you write your own postinst, the postinst.debhelper doesn't get executed, and the debhelper postinst script is what runs update-python-modules |
| 18:38.12 | dutchfish | hi, does anybody have a clue why nepomuk service stub is eating up all free memory and swap space on a given system (debian squeeze/x86_64), or how to debug it? |
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| 18:38.38 | Diytto | xyan: Its installed in debian right? |
| 18:38.55 | egns | hello, anyone willing to do me a favour? `dpkg -S /etc/ssh/sshd_config` |
| 18:39.01 | xyan | Diytto: i dont know if it is installed by default, im using debootstrap and building minimal systems only |
| 18:39.09 | Diytto | Oh ok |
| 18:39.16 | somiaj | egns: packages.debian.org should tell you where that comes from |
| 18:39.21 | rek | package for mp3 codecs? |
| 18:39.21 | egns | ah good. |
| 18:40.04 | egns | You have searched for paths that end with sshd_config in suite lenny, all sections, and all architectures. Sorry, your search gave no results |
| 18:40.06 | egns | cool |
| 18:40.26 | stew | egns: its created by the openssh-server postinst script |
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| 18:40.41 | egns | /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst: line 300: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory |
| 18:40.47 | egns | sigh |
| 18:41.37 | somiaj | egns: what are you trying to do? |
| 18:41.56 | egns | i was trying to install openssh-server |
| 18:42.01 | egns | but i managed to fix it, creating /etc/ssh/ |
| 18:42.03 | egns | which didn't exist |
| 18:42.10 | somiaj | in what version of debian? |
| 18:42.13 | egns | lenny |
| 18:42.48 | somiaj | are you installing some backport of the server (seems strange that it would error out, but seems like it shouldn't be to diffcult to fix) |
| 18:43.30 | egns | no no, but as I said, /etc/ssh/ didn't exist in my server |
| 18:43.43 | egns | it could not create sshd_config because that directory was missing |
| 18:43.56 | stew | binbrain: does your postinst script contain "#DEBHELPER#" ? |
| 18:44.02 | binbrain | no |
| 18:44.11 | stew | binbrain: see man dh_isntalldeb |
| 18:44.31 | dutchfish | egns: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=465104 |
| 18:45.19 | binbrain | ;) thanks again stew |
| 18:45.48 | egns | dutchfish: i certainly not see the relation of that bug with my former problem |
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| 18:49.23 | dutchfish | egns: openssh-server: /usr/share/doc/openssh-client/examples/sshd_config | man 5 sshd_config |
| 18:50.22 | dutchfish | egns: to explain a bit more, i have stumbled upon simular, seams that older version or running open-ssh in a chroot can damage sshd_config |
| 18:50.43 | dutchfish | egns: also check for rootkits (rkhunter) if the system is exposed to the net |
| 18:51.39 | rek | package for mp3 codecs? |
| 18:51.52 | dutchfish | egns: the bug is related to another issue, which i also recently have seen, related to #465104 |
| 18:52.01 | egns | dutchfish: o_O |
| 18:52.29 | wildc4rd | evenin' all! |
| 18:52.30 | egns | dutchfish: i screwed up my entire /etc/ssh/ directory because i messed up with the configurations |
| 18:52.32 | egns | so i deleted it completely, and i thought it would be recreated |
| 18:52.58 | egns | rek: http://www.google.es/search?client=opera&rls=es-LA&q=mp3+debian&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&hl=en |
| 18:53.46 | dutchfish | egns: no, but i gave you could look in the examples dir, or revive it by purge/reinstall, however don't do this if this is a remote system. |
| 18:54.48 | egns | dutchfish: i can foresee what's going to happen if i do that ;) |
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| 18:56.10 | dutchfish | egns: or just download the open-ssh server packages and decompress it to grab it out, there is more to that dir like keys etc. |
| 18:57.23 | dutchfish | egns: this is how looks mine: http://debian.pastebin.com/vnUG4jtY |
| 18:57.40 | Diytto | How do i search for wifi networks |
| 18:57.57 | stew | Diytto: iwlist scan |
| 18:58.01 | Diytto | K |
| 18:58.10 | egns | dutchfish: same as mine, but i don't have 'moduli' :) |
| 18:58.23 | Diytto | Command not found? |
| 18:58.47 | egns | install wireless-tools |
| 18:58.49 | stew | Diytto: as root? you'd need the wireless-tools package |
| 18:58.53 | Diytto | Oh |
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| 18:59.08 | dutchfish | egns: openssh-client: /etc/ssh/moduli |
| 18:59.31 | Diytto | :/ it cant use my wireless card? |
| 18:59.34 | Diytto | It detects it |
| 19:00.17 | rozie | Diytto: install wicd |
| 19:00.46 | Diytto | How i have no internet on this computer |
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| 19:01.30 | stew | "it cant use my wireless card? It detects it" can you say this with fewer pronouns? |
| 19:02.58 | jhutchins_lt | wicd doesn't see wlan0 at all, network-manager-kde doesn't connect and displays the pop-up "Not Managed" and an icon that looks like it's for the wired connection. I did find where to set the wpa key, but nothing happens when I try to connect. I _am_ a member of netdev. |
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| 19:04.04 | Diytto | :o |
| 19:04.13 | rozie | wicd needs to be slightly configured |
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| 19:04.43 | rozie | does iwconfig see the card? |
| 19:05.10 | Diytto | Umm |
| 19:05.11 | Diytto | No |
| 19:05.22 | Diytto | Its eth0 i know from the installer |
| 19:05.35 | Diytto | But it says no wireless extensions |
| 19:06.38 | Diytto | Brb |
| 19:07.01 | stew | Diytto: if it was eth0 in the installer, its not necessarily eth0 after the install |
| 19:08.56 | rozie | Diytto: what card is it? (lspci) |
| 19:10.03 | gandhijee | hey guys, how can i tell the debian startup/shutdown clock scripts to ignore /etc/adjtime |
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| 19:10.19 | norbert_ | hi, I'm trying to edit /etc/hosts to get rid of http://b1.adbrite.com/iads/531463.gif |
| 19:10.30 | norbert_ | I added 127.0.0.1 b1.adbrite.com and 127.0.0.1 *.adbrite.com |
| 19:10.48 | norbert_ | but when I shift-reload the file, it still displays |
| 19:11.07 | vtts | norbert_, try adblock+ extention for firefox |
| 19:11.09 | xyan | your browser might have it cached |
| 19:11.23 | norbert_ | shift-reload should clear the cache, force a reload |
| 19:11.38 | norbert_ | vtts: neh... it has scary privacy issues... :| |
| 19:11.49 | vtts | like what?? |
| 19:12.03 | norbert_ | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865/privacy/ |
| 19:12.14 | norbert_ | like sending things back to them |
| 19:12.22 | norbert_ | and then they say 'we won't use this but others might' |
| 19:12.35 | xyan | norbert_: well i dont think you can use * as a wildcard in /etc/hosts |
| 19:12.50 | norbert_ | oh, that might be it, I'll try to remove it |
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| 19:13.10 | norbert_ | yes, that did the trick |
| 19:13.11 | norbert_ | thanks |
| 19:13.11 | xyan | norbert_: and ads are usually delivered by a cdn so you would have to figure out each and every host which might be involved |
| 19:13.14 | xyan | ah ok |
| 19:15.00 | Diytto | Ok im back |
| 19:15.12 | Diytto | You would be amazed |
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| 19:15.27 | Diytto | At this long line of ethernet cables i have here :| |
| 19:15.38 | jaggz | what's a recommended secure name server? |
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| 19:18.41 | Diytto | Where is the package updTer |
| 19:18.57 | jhutchins_lt | I went back to the plasma widget, deleted the configuration (which had persisted despite using "purge"), added it again and POOF! It works. |
| 19:19.48 | Diytto | How do i update my packages |
| 19:19.51 | xyan | jaggz: probably one run by yourself at the other end of a vpn/ipsec tunnel, hosted by an isp which guarantees total privacy.. |
| 19:20.07 | xyan | Diytto: try aptitude |
| 19:20.14 | Diytto | K |
| 19:20.33 | jhutchins_lt | Diytto: Enable online sources in /etc/apt/sources.list, aptitude update && aptitude upgrade |
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| 19:20.55 | somiaj | aptitude update will update from your sources, aptitude upgrade will download and install any packages that need updated |
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| 19:22.48 | Diytto | How do i enable online sources |
| 19:23.22 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Diytto about sources |
| 19:23.32 | dutchfish | Diytto: man sources.list |
| 19:23.34 | jhutchins_lt | Diytto: If you did a netinstall they will already be enabled. |
| 19:23.42 | Diytto | I got it |
| 19:24.08 | dougmencken | anybody can tell me *any* advantage of aptitude versus apt-get? |
| 19:24.23 | jhutchins_lt | !tell dougmencken about why aptitude |
| 19:25.31 | vtts | dougmencken, e.g. marking of automaticlally installed packages |
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| 19:26.10 | dougmencken | so no adavnatges, right? well, except "more advanced conflict/dependency resolution" (which I doubt are implemented in front-end to apt) |
| 19:26.36 | Diytto | I am updating |
| 19:29.07 | xyan | aptitude comes with more moo power |
| 19:29.19 | xyan | and the resolving is done by the frontend if i remember correctly |
| 19:29.23 | Diytto | http://linux.die.net/man/8/wpa_supplicant is this good |
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| 19:30.03 | xyan | aptitude install wpa-supplicant ... and try |
| 19:30.22 | xyan | its the only way to configure wpa i think, there are gui frontends like wicd or network-manager though |
| 19:30.25 | stew | dougmencken: yes, they are implemented in the front end. when it tries to resolve a dependency problem you can say "i don't like that solution, find another" or "try again if i tell you this pacakge must be installed as part of the solution" |
| 19:30.33 | stew | dougmencken: its got much more advanced searching possible |
| 19:31.09 | dougmencken | ah okay; but I do prefer apt |
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| 19:33.17 | Diytto | How do i get wicd |
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| 19:34.13 | xyan | Diytto: aptitude install <packagename> |
| 19:34.25 | Diytto | . |
| 19:34.26 | Diytto | K |
| 19:34.34 | xyan | Diytto: aptitude search <foo> if you are unsure how things are called |
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| 19:34.52 | Diytto | Well i am confused because it cant find anything |
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| 19:35.10 | xyan | then you didnt read the sources part and/or forgot to update |
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| 19:36.47 | Diytto | I did update... And also changed the sources |
| 19:37.12 | xyan | what says apt-cache policy wicd ? |
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| 19:37.37 | faheem | hi. is there any opinions about a good virtualization option for debian? i need something for which a recent version of fedora say 13 would work as a guest |
| 19:37.41 | Diytto | Unable to locate |
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| 19:38.00 | faheem | i was using vserver before. considering kvm |
| 19:38.23 | xyan | judd: versions wicd |
| 19:38.24 | judd | Package wicd on i386 -- lenny-backports: 1.6.2.2-1~bpo50+1; sid: 1.7.0+ds1-5; squeeze: 1.7.0+ds1-5 |
| 19:38.28 | metalfoo | Vserver is no virtualization at all though |
| 19:38.29 | faheem | xyan: backport? |
| 19:38.34 | xyan | ah yeah didnt know |
| 19:38.41 | faheem | metalfoo: it isn't? |
| 19:38.44 | xyan | !tell Diytto about bpo |
| 19:39.09 | metalfoo | No. VServer is context switch, like BSD jails. You don't virtualize anything, not even paravirtualized |
| 19:39.17 | faheem | i'm looking for comments for people with recent experience in usage |
| 19:39.23 | metalfoo | For true Virtualization, you may be fine with both, KVM and Xen, whatever you prefer. |
| 19:39.34 | faheem | metalfoo: ok, fair enough. i just want something that runs fedora 13 on lenny |
| 19:39.36 | metalfoo | I personally do like Xen, but that's up to you |
| 19:40.01 | faheem | vserver does work with fedora, but looks like it might be a pain to get it to work with lenny |
| 19:40.02 | metalfoo | Other alternatives include Virtualbox and OpenVZ |
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| 19:40.23 | faheem | metalfoo: right. don't know anything about vb or openvz |
| 19:40.34 | metalfoo | Well, as said, as VServer is just a context switch on the kernel you are rather limited on what you can do on your guest. |
| 19:41.01 | metalfoo | Virtualbox is great if you want something on your desktop. On servers you probably want to choose between Xen and KVM |
| 19:41.02 | faheem | metalfoo: not a problem in my experience. i just want something that is up and running quickly |
| 19:41.31 | metalfoo | Do you want permanently use virtualization or just from time to time? |
| 19:41.33 | faheem | metalfoo: a friend of mine was trying to ssh to a vb guest but couldn't |
| 19:41.46 | metalfoo | Well, it works. That's not the point |
| 19:41.47 | faheem | metalfoo: occasionally. just to test a program on fedora |
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| 19:42.07 | faheem | metalfoo: is it hard? friend not a sysadmin |
| 19:42.13 | metalfoo | Then use Virtualbox, its really easy, self-explanatory and can be run as application. |
| 19:42.13 | faheem | but neither am i really |
| 19:42.19 | metalfoo | With nice Gui |
| 19:42.25 | faheem | metalfoo: ok. does it partition memory? |
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| 19:42.33 | dougmencken | Diytto is not on x86 |
| 19:42.45 | metalfoo | Yes, you can assign a fixed amount for your guest. |
| 19:42.51 | Diytto | Trye |
| 19:42.54 | Diytto | True* |
| 19:42.59 | faheem | metalfoo: suppose i don't want to? |
| 19:43.04 | metalfoo | Why not? |
| 19:43.33 | dougmencken | judd: versions wicd powerpc |
| 19:43.35 | judd | Package wicd on i386 -- lenny-backports: 1.6.2.2-1~bpo50+1; sid: 1.7.0+ds1-5; squeeze: 1.7.0+ds1-5 |
| 19:43.42 | faheem | metalfoo: well, i don't want to be restricted |
| 19:43.50 | faheem | vserver lets me share the systems memory |
| 19:43.57 | dougmencken | judd: you lose |
| 19:44.25 | metalfoo | Well, as said, that's because Vserver is not at all a virtualization, is more like a friendly coexistence. |
| 19:44.36 | faheem | metalfoo: right. that would work for me. |
| 19:44.49 | faheem | maybe i'm misusing the term virtualiation |
| 19:45.32 | faheem | kvm looks pretty mainstream, and no patches needed on lenny, right? |
| 19:45.37 | metalfoo | Well, in practice its not such a big deal. Virtualization means to run an operating system within a container supplied by a host, providing a full virtual machine. |
| 19:45.47 | xyan | dougmencken: all the wicd packages are _all_ archs nothing platform dependent here |
| 19:45.49 | faheem | i'm looking at http://www.howtoforge.org/virtualization-with-kvm-on-a-debian-lenny-server |
| 19:45.54 | metalfoo | KVM is included in the vanilla kernel, yes. |
| 19:46.01 | metalfoo | But also Xen is available as package |
| 19:46.26 | metalfoo | But as said, I'd suggest you Virtualbox for your desktop. KVM and Xen is more for enterprise. |
| 19:46.31 | faheem | is vb significantly more or less difficult than kvm? |
| 19:46.42 | faheem | metalfoo: ok. i'll consider vb |
| 19:46.42 | metalfoo | Not that you cannot use it on your desktop, its just a bit too much |
| 19:46.51 | faheem | metalfoo: in what sense? |
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| 19:46.57 | Diytto | Where is wicd |
| 19:47.19 | Diytto | I installed it but i cant find it |
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| 19:47.57 | metalfoo | Virtualbox is just an application you can start and stop whenever you like, controlled by a GUI where you can click around. KVM and Xen invasive nest within your system, and require you to interact with a lot of command line tools. |
| 19:48.33 | faheem | metalfoo: can i install fedora 13 in vb in debian lenny? |
| 19:48.55 | HTT-Bird | faheem, of course! |
| 19:49.00 | metalfoo | Sure, for each holds that they are true hypervisors. That means you can install pretty much anything, including Windows |
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| 19:49.15 | metalfoo | (If you have the hardware for that) |
| 19:49.22 | xyan | Diytto: /usr/bin/wicd-client ? |
| 19:49.27 | Diytto | Ahh |
| 19:49.29 | faheem | HTT-Bird, metalfoo : Ok |
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| 19:49.45 | xyan | Diytto: should be somewhere in your menu if you have a desktop installed.. |
| 19:49.46 | faheem | Diytto: dpkg -L packagename |
| 19:49.53 | HTT-Bird | yeah, I have no trouble running Windows XP under VBox on a Linux Mint host |
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| 19:50.11 | faheem | HTT-Bird: you'd recommend vb then? |
| 19:50.13 | Diytto | O.O |
| 19:50.16 | faheem | what is linux mint? |
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| 19:50.21 | andre_pl | i've got a drive failing and I dont know which of the ones in my system it is. syslog just shows ata3: prefixing all the error messages, how do I know what drive its complaining about? |
| 19:50.25 | ghisen|home | Hi, anyone know where i can change the fullname of a user in gnome? |
| 19:50.30 | Diytto | It says it is not installed but i installed it 5 minutes ago |
| 19:50.57 | HTT-Bird | faheem, some other distro |
| 19:51.01 | xyan | Diytto: what did you install the wicd package itself? it should pick up all the needed dependencies since its a meta package |
| 19:51.15 | faheem | HTT-Bird: ok. used it on lenny? |
| 19:51.15 | HTT-Bird | and yes, for desktop virtualization, VBox is the way to go compared to KVM/QEmu or Xen |
| 19:51.18 | Diytto | Oh jeez |
| 19:51.29 | HTT-Bird | no, use the .deb's from the upstream repo anyhow |
| 19:51.37 | faheem | HTT-Bird: thanks for the recommendation |
| 19:51.39 | HTT-Bird | (Debian's version is rather old) |
| 19:51.42 | faheem | HTT-Bird: upstream repo? |
| 19:51.48 | Diytto | It broke network-manager-gnome |
| 19:51.55 | faheem | you mean vb itself? |
| 19:52.22 | metalfoo | You can go with Squeeze if you want |
| 19:52.29 | faheem | is this a reasonable place to start -> http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox |
| 19:52.38 | faheem | metalfoo: um, was that last addressed to me? |
| 19:52.48 | metalfoo | Yes |
| 19:52.56 | faheem | metalfoo: oh, you mean squeezes vb? |
| 19:52.57 | xyan | Diytto: pastebin the output please |
| 19:53.04 | metalfoo | Yes. |
| 19:53.11 | faheem | as opposed to vb's vb? :-) |
| 19:53.13 | faheem | metalfoo: ok |
| 19:53.22 | metalfoo | As opposed to Lenny's VB which is quite old |
| 19:53.52 | faheem | and the wiki link is good to follow? |
| 19:54.15 | Diytto | Wtf |
| 19:54.17 | Diytto | Here |
| 19:54.19 | metalfoo | Why not? |
| 19:54.24 | faheem | and the -ose package is the one to use? |
| 19:54.31 | xyan | Diytto: no not here use pastebin.ca or something else |
| 19:54.37 | faheem | metalfoo: dunno. just wondering |
| 19:54.55 | metalfoo | As said, if you want, upgrade to Squeeze first and you get a recent VB for free - if you know what you're doing |
| 19:55.17 | faheem | metalfoo: i'll stay with lenny for now |
| 19:55.20 | Diytto | I cant connect to the internet |
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| 19:55.28 | Diytto | I have no network manager |
| 19:55.28 | faheem | i usually wait till the release |
| 19:55.42 | faheem | metalfoo: backports has a recent vb. i'll try that |
| 19:56.38 | xyan | Diytto: so you blindly hit the return key? aptitude should have told you that it will remove something |
| 19:56.41 | Diytto | xyan: Something hapoened and i have no internet connection |
| 19:56.50 | Diytto | It said they were broken |
| 19:56.59 | xyan | and what else? |
| 19:57.05 | Diytto | Thats it |
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| 19:57.20 | Bushmills | network manager isn't required for having network access |
| 19:57.29 | Diytto | It said network-manager-gnome was broken and needed to be removed |
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| 19:57.45 | xyan | Diytto: but it removed it and installed wicd instead? |
| 19:57.53 | Diytto | No |
| 19:58.01 | Diytto | It installed wicd i guess |
| 19:58.28 | xyan | Diytto: then start wicd and use that |
| 19:58.30 | Diytto | But it says it is uninstalled and it is installed as wicd [not installed] |
| 19:58.35 | Diytto | I cant use it |
| 19:59.09 | xyan | then you didnt read the messages from aptitude carefully! well you still have dhclient and can run dhclient eth0 as root |
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| 20:00.06 | Diytto | Also, dgcdbd libnl1 libnm-util0 libpcslite1 and wpasupplicat were removed |
| 20:00.39 | xyan | dgcdbd whats that? |
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| 20:00.45 | Diytto | No idea :< |
| 20:00.57 | xyan | ^^ try dhclient eth0 as root |
| 20:01.04 | Diytto | K |
| 20:01.04 | xyan | asuming you are using a wired connection right now |
| 20:01.17 | Diytto | Yes |
| 20:01.35 | Diytto | K its working |
| 20:01.45 | xyan | great now try to install wicd |
| 20:01.49 | Diytto | K |
| 20:01.50 | xyan | and read the messages! |
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| 20:02.23 | Bushmills | here's a network setup howto: http://wiki.debian.org/Network |
| 20:02.25 | Diytto | Okay it says depends on python-urwid |
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| 20:02.42 | dougmencken | Diytto: then apt-get install python-urwid |
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| 20:03.23 | Diytto | It says no candidate version found |
| 20:03.55 | xyan | judd: versions python-urwid |
| 20:03.57 | judd | Package python-urwid on i386 -- etch: 0.9.7.1-1; lenny: 0.9.8.3-1; sid: 0.9.9.1-1; squeeze: 0.9.9.1-1 |
| 20:04.13 | xyan | says something else |
| 20:04.23 | xyan | you did install lenny right? |
| 20:04.26 | rek | hi i put in fstab some dev hda ... if i go to the mount point i cannot access to it if i'm not root what can i do? i wanted the drive icons... |
| 20:04.27 | Diytto | Yes |
| 20:04.34 | Diytto | I am on a ppc tho |
| 20:04.49 | Diytto | I need to uninstall wcid |
| 20:04.54 | xyan | its available for ppc |
| 20:04.57 | xyan | its not even installed yet |
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| 20:05.01 | Diytto | It says it is broken |
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| 20:05.48 | Azrael- | This just in: Multi-arch netinst CD is borked. |
| 20:05.52 | Azrael- | Please be less awful, Debian. |
| 20:05.54 | Azrael- | This is all |
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| 20:05.59 | xyan | Diytto: then reinstall network-manager-gnome it does the same things as wicd, and read the link Bushmills gave you |
| 20:06.10 | Bushmills | rek, depending on filesystem on drive, the files and dir permissions determine what you can access and what not. |
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| 20:07.16 | rek | Bushmills: i can access it with root privileges i did dev hdc mountpoint defaults 0 2 |
| 20:07.40 | Bushmills | rek, depending on filesystem on drive, the files and dir permissions determine what you can access and what not. |
| 20:07.56 | Diytto | pastie.org/private/3wnv57hoyf7v7b5lkuuxkq |
| 20:07.57 | Diytto | K |
| 20:07.59 | Diytto | Pastie |
| 20:08.00 | Bushmills | hdc? |
| 20:08.18 | Bushmills | not a partition on hdc, such hdc1? |
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| 20:09.22 | xyan | Diytto: as you read wicd is not install, its not because python-urwid can not be installed but its listed at p.d.o see here http://packages.debian.org/lenny/powerpc/python-urwid/download |
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| 20:09.49 | jhutchins_lt | What are some alternatives to amarok in kde4? |
| 20:09.52 | xyan | Diytto: so either go for network-manager-gnome or fix your sources list and install python-urwid and wicd |
| 20:10.35 | xyan | s/install/installed/ |
| 20:10.42 | xyan | yawns :/ |
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| 20:11.08 | jhutchins_lt | wicd doesn't always work. |
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| 20:12.51 | stefano | hi everybody. in NetBSD, i see a message on my /var/log/messages when an external usb disk spins-up (after some inactivity, it automatically spins down). Is there a way to also see a message in Debian? |
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| 20:14.56 | rek | Bushmills: i want to access to it i want to be able to have a suitable shortcut |
| 20:15.54 | Bushmills | rek, does hdc contain a file system, or is that drive partitioned? |
| 20:16.25 | rek | partitioned nfts |
| 20:16.38 | Bushmills | then don't mount hdc, but the partition instead |
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| 20:17.19 | Bushmills | also don't try to mount it as nfts - there is no file system by that name |
| 20:17.37 | rek | hdc5 infact |
| 20:17.46 | rek | so auto ? |
| 20:17.47 | Bushmills | tell that your fstab, not me |
| 20:18.01 | rek | so i put auto under that column |
| 20:18.16 | Bushmills | put the type of the file system there |
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| 20:19.09 | rek | i know |
| 20:19.22 | rek | i put ntfs some minutes ago |
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| 20:19.27 | rek | and it is mounted |
| 20:20.00 | jhutchins_lt | rek: Read-only? |
| 20:20.27 | rek | defaults |
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| 20:51.17 | eft_ | my .bashrc file hsa a condition for "-x /usr/bin/dircolors" - is these testing for execute permissions on that dir? |
| 20:51.55 | eft_ | if, so can I chmod a+x /user/bin/colors? |
| 20:53.02 | poisonbit | on my lenny it's already a+x (and it's a file, not a dir) |
| 20:53.09 | cga | hi all, anyone running sympa (mailing list) succesfully on leny w/ postgres?? |
| 20:53.23 | poisonbit | eft_, 755 on my system |
| 20:53.26 | cga | mm more installing succesfully really. |
| 20:57.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | eft_: thats what its doing, and 'help test' will explain the otehr test options |
| 20:58.25 | eft_ | poisonbit: so it is - tx |
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| 20:59.32 | eft_ | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks for the pointer |
| 20:59.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | eft_: np! |
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| 21:11.31 | Cat2008 | Hi! |
| 21:11.43 | Cat2008 | It's me again -_- |
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| 21:12.46 | Cat2008 | What have i do with GRUB, to make it read ext4? |
| 21:13.06 | Cat2008 | GRUB from Lenny, netinst(if is does matter) |
| 21:13.27 | Cat2008 | There, on ext4 was my Buntu. |
| 21:13.30 | Cat2008 | Was. |
| 21:14.51 | Cat2008 | So, can you help me? |
| 21:14.59 | Tramp | !ext4 |
| 21:14.59 | dpkg | [ext4] Fourth extended file system. Supports volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents. Support for ext4 filesystem features included in e2fsprogs since 1.41~WIP-2008-06-17-1. Merged in mainline Linux kernel, available in 2.6.28 and later. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. Not supported by GRUB Legacy (Debian bug #511121). http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ #ext4 on irc.oftc.net. |
| 21:15.20 | Tramp | Cat2008: afaik, Lenny uses Grub Legacy |
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| 21:15.53 | Cat2008 | o_O |
| 21:16.03 | Raydiation | how can i run the script again which was run when i installed ldap-client? |
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| 21:16.14 | Raydiation | i guess thats its called debconf |
| 21:16.24 | Raydiation | dpkg --reconfigure ldap-client? |
| 21:16.26 | dpkg | Raydiation: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
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| 21:16.51 | Cat2008 | So, if I'll install grub2, it will read ext4? |
| 21:18.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | iirc yes, perhaps check the changelog |
| 21:18.38 | xyan | Cat2008: im booting from ext4 with grub2 1.98+20100804-7 |
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| 21:19.48 | gigo | I need to remove some parts from a .AVI video and join multiple .AVI videos into one. Are there any tools or commands available to do this? |
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| 21:21.09 | xyan | gigo: kdenlive, kino, pitivi, avidemux etc |
| 21:21.19 | xyan | gigo: dont know of a cli tool to solve that task though |
| 21:23.07 | Cat2008 | titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel Default |
| 21:23.07 | Cat2008 | root(hd1,0) |
| 21:23.07 | Cat2008 | kernel/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro quiet |
| 21:23.07 | Cat2008 | ĆĀ”an it be replaced by titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686 (single-user mode) |
| 21:23.07 | Cat2008 | root(hd1,0) |
| 21:23.07 | Cat2008 | kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/sdb1 ro single |
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| 21:23.56 | Cat2008 | hi again) |
| 21:24.05 | Cat2008 | thnx for grub2 |
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| 21:24.42 | Cat2008 | i'll replace grub2's menu.lst with .lst of grub legacy |
| 21:24.56 | Cat2008 | Can i do that? |
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| 21:25.36 | Cat2008 | done. |
| 21:25.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | why? |
| 21:25.56 | Cat2008 | I'll be back, if it wouldn't crash. |
| 21:26.20 | Cat2008 | Because it was my custom menu file |
| 21:26.38 | Cat2008 | with Ubuntu and BSD |
| 21:26.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | and the upgrade scripts didn't update it for you? |
| 21:26.46 | Cat2008 | yep |
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| 21:26.55 | Tramp | no. menu.lst is autogenerated and has a different format |
| 21:26.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | grub-install would normally find those distributions |
| 21:27.19 | Cat2008 | they are on another hdd |
| 21:27.27 | Cat2008 | omg, listen |
| 21:27.34 | Cat2008 | grub is on sda1 |
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| 21:27.43 | Cat2008 | debian is on sdb1 |
| 21:27.53 | Cat2008 | buntu/bsd - on sda1 |
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| 21:28.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | and? if grub-install doesn't pick them up its a bug. file it. |
| 21:28.51 | Cat2008 | so, can i reboot? |
| 21:29.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | not if you broke your menu.lst, no |
| 21:29.50 | Cat2008 | so, i'll boot from BT4 USB and check it out |
| 21:29.54 | xyan | Cat2008: install os-prober it will hook into grub2's update-grub process and detect everything even installations on other disks |
| 21:30.33 | Cat2008 | The problem is in ext4 filesystem |
| 21:30.56 | Cat2008 | it wasn't picked up by grub legasy |
| 21:31.10 | Cat2008 | ok, reboot. |
| 21:31.21 | xyan | pwnt:_) |
| 21:31.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | shakes head |
| 21:31.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | :) |
| 21:31.33 | xyan | hope the kernel is old enough to not include ext4 |
| 21:31.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | lol |
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| 21:34.35 | Cat2008 | nothing happens |
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| 21:34.49 | Cat2008 | it can`t read ext4 |
| 21:34.53 | Cat2008 | -___- |
| 21:35.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | xyan: :) |
| 21:35.12 | xyan | sic! |
| 21:35.14 | xyan | ;-) |
| 21:35.22 | Cat2008 | maybe, i have to update kernel? |
| 21:35.28 | xyan | Cat2008: maybe |
| 21:35.33 | xyan | take a look at your config |
| 21:35.39 | Braber01 | hi I'm using a public computer and I added the usa international keyboard layout hoever it's only showing A's as the vowel and the alt key doesn' t work |
| 21:35.44 | Braber01 | *meta |
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| 21:36.15 | Cat2008 | titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 21:36.15 | Cat2008 | root(hd1,0) |
| 21:36.15 | Cat2008 | kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/sdb1 ro quiet |
| 21:36.15 | Cat2008 | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 21:36.15 | Cat2008 | titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686 (single-user mode) |
| 21:36.15 | *** kick/#debian [Cat2008!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste) |
| 21:36.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | lol |
| 21:36.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | someones slow |
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| 21:36.33 | Braber01 | oh grate not it works :( |
| 21:36.40 | Cat2008 | here u are |
| 21:36.41 | Braber01 | ĆĀ«ĆĀ¬ |
| 21:36.41 | xyan | Cat2008: no thats wrong |
| 21:36.59 | xyan | Cat2008: grub.cfg is not compatible to the good old menu.lst |
| 21:37.12 | Cat2008 | o_O |
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| 21:37.19 | Cat2008 | wait |
| 21:37.32 | xyan | Cat2008: also at first installation there happens some chainloading afaik so you will end up grub-legacy chaining into grub2 which does not make sense with ext4 |
| 21:37.40 | xyan | Cat2008: whats your kernel version anyway? |
| 21:38.02 | Cat2008 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.47 | xyan | hrm yeah recent enough.. hope you changed your fstab |
| 21:38.53 | xyan | and as i said give os-prober a try |
| 21:38.59 | xyan | thats enough info... eat it! |
| 21:39.18 | Cat2008 | os-prober? What is it? |
| 21:39.35 | xyan | i told you you didnt read and i wont repeat myself |
| 21:39.49 | xyan | oh and read the debian related bits here https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto |
| 21:40.31 | Cat2008 | how can u see, i was kicked. |
| 21:40.54 | Cat2008 | And i couldn't read about os=probe ;-) |
| 21:41.02 | Cat2008 | ok, thnx! |
| 21:41.04 | xyan | you could but you didnt |
| 21:41.08 | xyan | anyway have fun |
| 21:41.50 | Cat2008 | Yes, it's very funny)) |
| 21:42.26 | rek | hi, i don't hear anything why? |
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| 21:43.45 | Cat2008 | because we do not say nothing. |
| 21:43.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | rek: is this 20 questions? |
| 21:43.59 | rek | what? |
| 21:44.07 | Cat2008 | hmm.. do you mean sound on PC? |
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| 21:44.41 | rek | yes |
| 21:44.53 | Cat2008 | dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base |
| 21:44.58 | rek | now i unplug a pci device |
| 21:46.03 | evilgeenius | Where is the standard place to run web apps from in linux? in my case im running a rails app on nginx web server. Also what user is generally used? |
| 21:46.30 | rek | why do my pc blablabla vga ttest if my agp card is not plugged in correctly? |
| 21:46.33 | Digdilem | - /var/www evilgeenius, for debian at least |
| 21:46.56 | Digdilem | but many apps change root for their thngs in apache |
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| 21:47.41 | evilgeenius | Digdilem: what user is used? |
| 21:48.28 | evilgeenius | evilgeenius: currently i create a new user with my own username, but im wondering if there is a standard username |
| 21:48.47 | Cat2008 | xyan how can i make os-prober to be verbose? |
| 21:49.17 | xyan | you dont run it directly it gets called by update-grub |
| 21:49.20 | rek | dpkg reconfigure command not found |
| 21:49.21 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, rek |
| 21:49.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | evilgeenius: not accross distributions. debian+derivatives use apache, fedora+derivatives use httpd (iirc) |
| 21:49.40 | xyan | Caelum: os-prober -v as usual though to see what it detects |
| 21:49.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | rek: its one command, not two |
| 21:49.47 | xyan | Cat2008:* |
| 21:49.59 | Cat2008 | thnx |
| 21:50.08 | Digdilem | evilgeenius, www-data |
| 21:50.25 | evilgeenius | I guess it doesn't really matter then... |
| 21:50.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | Digdilem: thanks for cathing that :) |
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| 21:51.11 | evilgeenius | Is there a standard way to backup a whole debian system? |
| 21:51.15 | Cat2008 | update-grub was done, os-probe too |
| 21:51.20 | Cat2008 | nothing |
| 21:51.22 | evilgeenius | so it can be easily restored |
| 21:51.27 | Cat2008 | and i know, why |
| 21:51.33 | rek | help |
| 21:51.55 | evilgeenius | Im running on a VPS so i guess i only need to backup the folders that have changed from a fresh debian instance/install... |
| 21:51.57 | Cat2008 | Because my Lenny can't read ext4 -_- |
| 21:52.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | evilgeenius: no. theres lots of way to do it |
| 21:52.50 | Cat2008 | xyan: i'll try your pkgs. |
| 21:53.42 | evilgeenius | Kamping_Kaiser: im using linode vps hosting, and I can create a new fresh debian instance in a couple of minutes. So ideally i only want to backup the changes that have happenned from that fresh install so I can they restore it onto another instance.. |
| 21:53.58 | xyan | Cat2008: my kernel is vanilla, and im running sid... so you wont |
| 21:54.28 | Cat2008 | -__- |
| 21:54.35 | rek | ? |
| 21:54.45 | rek | dpkg-reconfigure alsa base |
| 21:54.51 | xyan | alsa-base |
| 21:54.54 | Cat2008 | alsa-base |
| 21:55.00 | Cat2008 | :) |
| 21:55.03 | rek | yes |
| 21:55.11 | Cat2008 | nothing? |
| 21:55.16 | xyan | and afterwards alsa reload |
| 21:55.23 | rek | no |
| 21:55.26 | Cat2008 | mb force-reload? |
| 21:55.37 | Cat2008 | so, recompill |
| 21:55.55 | Cat2008 | I have done it in buntu |
| 21:55.56 | Cat2008 | wait |
| 21:56.15 | rek | done |
| 21:56.36 | Cat2008 | how to paste here?) |
| 21:56.44 | xyan | !paste |
| 21:56.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 21:56.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell Cat2008 about pastebin |
| 21:57.13 | rek | done sorry |
| 21:57.14 | rek | but i still don't hear any fart except... wait i hear my farts but i want my speakers t odo that |
| 21:57.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | Cat2008: you were pointed to pastebin *both times* the bot kicked you for pasting |
| 21:57.35 | xyan | rek: do you have multiple cards? |
| 21:57.40 | Cat2008 | http://www.berghowto.info/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=278 |
| 21:57.43 | rek | i had |
| 21:57.44 | Cat2008 | here u are |
| 21:57.48 | xyan | rek: does /proc/asound/cards list anything? does it have the right order |
| 21:57.49 | rek | now i unplugged one |
| 21:58.07 | Cat2008 | it is in Russian, but you will understund) |
| 21:58.19 | Cat2008 | i can translate |
| 21:58.33 | Cat2008 | but i can`' paste >_< |
| 21:58.35 | xyan | google can do and rek dont recompile |
| 21:58.42 | xyan | !tell Cat2008 about pastebinit |
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| 21:59.51 | rek | inte ihc5 |
| 21:59.55 | Cat2008 | pastebinit is ready |
| 21:59.58 | rek | intel |
| 22:00.26 | xyan | which slot is it 0 before the [Intel ...] ? |
| 22:00.41 | xyan | !tell rek about alsa checklist |
| 22:00.54 | Diytto | Hello |
| 22:00.57 | Diytto | I am back |
| 22:00.57 | Cat2008 | I had the same problem |
| 22:01.14 | Diytto | Is there a package manager like on ubuntu in dbian |
| 22:01.15 | Diytto | Debian |
| 22:01.23 | xyan | synaptic |
| 22:01.24 | Cat2008 | Only rocompilling helped me |
| 22:01.29 | Cat2008 | apt |
| 22:01.34 | rek | gdebi |
| 22:01.38 | Cat2008 | dpgk |
| 22:01.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | Diytto: what sort of like? |
| 22:01.45 | rek | synaptic |
| 22:01.46 | Cat2008 | gdebi) |
| 22:01.48 | Diytto | K |
| 22:01.58 | Cat2008 | aptitude |
| 22:02.00 | rek | synaptic rocks |
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| 22:02.08 | Cat2008 | apt rocks |
| 22:02.08 | apt | you bet your perl modules I do! |
| 22:02.10 | Cat2008 | no |
| 22:02.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | grin |
| 22:02.19 | Cat2008 | )))) |
| 22:02.43 | Cat2008 | sooo |
| 22:02.54 | Cat2008 | omg! |
| 22:03.06 | Cat2008 | How can i purge grub legacy?! |
| 22:03.07 | rek | go for it dude |
| 22:04.26 | rek | how can i add me to the audio group and why |
| 22:04.36 | Cat2008 | what? |
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| 22:05.05 | xyan | usermod -aG audio yourusername |
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| 22:05.14 | xyan | or do it by hand with vigr and vigr -s |
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| 22:07.42 | Cat2008 | xyan: |
| 22:07.59 | Cat2008 | How can i purge grub legacy? |
| 22:08.07 | xyan | aptitude purge it |
| 22:08.15 | Cat2008 | he-he |
| 22:08.20 | xyan | damn you recompile so many things and dont know how to purge something? |
| 22:08.43 | Cat2008 | -_- i don`t know how the PKG calls! |
| 22:08.52 | xyan | time to rtfm |
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| 22:09.06 | evilgeenius | Where is a good place to install ruby in debian? or does it not matter? should i just run ./configure, or pass in a prefix? what does it affect? |
| 22:09.19 | Diytto | Hey ummmm my wifi card is supported by orinoco but it is not being "seen" |
| 22:09.20 | xyan | evilbulg1rian: you should use the prepackaged debs |
| 22:09.22 | rek | no sound |
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| 22:09.47 | xyan | rek: did you logout and login again? |
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| 22:10.07 | xyan | Diytto: is it a pci device then tell us the pciid using lspci -nn (the thing at the end of the line for your wireless card) |
| 22:10.08 | evilgeenius | evilgeenius: you meant that for me? |
| 22:10.14 | Diytto | Ah ok |
| 22:10.19 | xyan | evilgeenius: yeah sorry |
| 22:10.30 | Cat2008 | rek: I told you what to do. I had the same problem. |
| 22:10.38 | Cat2008 | No, really |
| 22:10.42 | evilgeenius | xyan: nah its not a good idea using the debs, easiest/best from source in the long run |
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| 22:10.58 | xyan | yeah from source: isntall once update never |
| 22:11.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | xyan: its better, just trust *cough* |
| 22:11.21 | Cat2008 | xyan: No-no-no! |
| 22:11.24 | xyan | ok will do *cough* |
| 22:11.34 | Diytto | xyan: It is not showing up :< |
| 22:11.45 | Diytto | It was in the installer tho so idk |
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| 22:12.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | Diytto: in what way is it not seen? |
| 22:12.18 | xyan | Diytto: hrm are you sure? can you pastebin the whole lspci -nn output? |
| 22:12.22 | Diytto | Like the airport card is not showing |
| 22:12.26 | Diytto | Ya 1 sec |
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| 22:13.16 | Diytto | pastie.org/1275998 |
| 22:13.17 | Diytto | K |
| 22:14.21 | xyan | and its a pci card for sure? |
| 22:14.40 | Diytto | Well it is an airport card in a mac g4 |
| 22:14.42 | Diytto | :s |
| 22:14.46 | Diytto | I think it is |
| 22:14.57 | xyan | dude theres pci pcmcia and whatnot |
| 22:15.02 | xyan | i dont know mac stuff i dislike apple |
| 22:15.08 | Cat2008 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.14 | xyan | try lspcmcia |
| 22:15.22 | Diytto | I know but theres like 3 pci one |
| 22:15.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | dmesg may show it being detected |
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| 22:15.49 | xyan | Cat2008: dont do that lennys udev doesnt like sids kernel |
| 22:15.55 | xyan | Cat2008: you will run into troubles |
| 22:16.14 | Cat2008 | hmmm |
| 22:16.16 | xyan | Cat2008: grab source and compile it yourself? isnt that the way you like it? |
| 22:16.24 | Cat2008 | Really! |
| 22:16.27 | Cat2008 | thnx! |
| 22:16.32 | Cat2008 | :3 |
| 22:16.45 | Diytto | xyan: So...? |
| 22:16.54 | xyan | Diytto: also try update-pciids and see if it lists more after |
| 22:17.07 | Diytto | Alright 1 sec |
| 22:17.45 | Diytto | Its the same |
| 22:17.56 | Diytto | What are the host bridges? |
| 22:18.12 | xyan | nothing of interest |
| 22:18.17 | xyan | http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1621 ? such a thing? |
| 22:22.05 | Diytto | xyan: That is exactly it |
| 22:22.09 | Diytto | Plastic tab and all |
| 22:22.33 | xyan | look at dmesg for messages regarding eth |
| 22:22.54 | xyan | you need to modprobe airport orinoco and hermes modules i dont think pcmcia is plug&play capable |
| 22:23.44 | xyan | Diytto: you might find some info here http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ thats all i can do for you |
| 22:23.50 | Diytto | What is dmesg |
| 22:23.54 | xyan | a command |
| 22:23.59 | Diytto | Oj |
| 22:24.01 | xyan | showing verbose boot messages |
| 22:24.10 | Diytto | K |
| 22:24.10 | xyan | the first thing to look at when troubleshooting |
| 22:24.14 | xyan | also /var/log/syslog.3.gz |
| 22:24.17 | xyan | syslog* |
| 22:24.42 | Diytto | AHA |
| 22:24.44 | Diytto | FOUND IT |
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| 22:25.50 | Diytto | xyan: pastie.org/12760620 |
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| 22:26.12 | xyan | nothing in there.. |
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| 22:28.27 | Diytto | xyan: Yes there os |
| 22:28.29 | Diytto | Is* |
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| 22:28.39 | wandernauta | I'm switching from stable to unstable, so from grub-legacy to grub2. The installer asked if it should set up grub2 as chainloaded, and I said yes. Was that the right one, and if not, will my box still boot? |
| 22:29.35 | xyan | Diytto: Sorry, there is no pastie #12760620 or it has expired. |
| 22:29.45 | Diytto | Oh |
| 22:29.46 | Diytto | Uh |
| 22:30.01 | Diytto | pastie.org/1276020 |
| 22:30.04 | Diytto | Sry :p |
| 22:30.11 | xyan | wandernauta: switching to sid requires some more skill, so you should be able to answer that question yourself.. |
| 22:30.19 | xyan | wandernauta: try & error :-) |
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| 22:31.21 | franki^ | wandernauta: It should probably work, but grub is generally one of those things that if it's working you shouldn't change anything. :) |
| 22:31.41 | davekong | I am running lenny and it seems tar does not support .xz files? Is there some other application I can install to get support? |
| 22:32.27 | xyan | Diytto: does not look so promising http://www.google.de/#hl=en&q=eth1%3A+orinoco_reset%3A+Error+-16+re-initializing+firmware&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=f5a49a4ef2ff551b |
| 22:32.29 | metalfoo | What do you think are .xz files? |
| 22:32.35 | Diytto | Uh oh |
| 22:32.44 | davekong | lzma compressed |
| 22:32.49 | Diytto | Oh uh xyan i cant open the computer browser |
| 22:33.03 | wandernauta | xyan: Hmm, skill... I don't think I have that, since I'm not even sure what sid is exactly. Oh well. I'll keep my boot floppy handy. |
| 22:33.15 | davekong | or .tar.xz a tar archive that has been lzma compressed say with xz |
| 22:33.28 | davekong | But I don't see an xz package either |
| 22:33.31 | xyan | davekong: p7zip or xz-lzma |
| 22:33.33 | wandernauta | franki^: True :) |
| 22:33.41 | franki^ | wandernauta: Sid is the name of Debian Unstable, if you didn't know that you definitely shouldn't be running it. :P |
| 22:34.29 | davekong | xyan: I don't see any such package xz-lzma |
| 22:34.42 | wandernauta | franki^: I did read the docs, it basically said that stable was the sensible, safe choice. I tried it, but running old software (Python 2.5?!) isn't my thing |
| 22:34.50 | xyan | davekong: judd versions xz-lzma |
| 22:34.54 | xyan | judd: versions xz-lzma |
| 22:34.54 | Diytto | xyan: I cant view it on ipod :< |
| 22:34.55 | judd | Package xz-lzma on i386 -- lenny-backports: 4.999.9beta+20100713-1~bpo50+1; sid: 4.999.9beta+20100810-1; squeeze: 4.999.9beta+20100810-1; experimental: 5.0.0-1 |
| 22:35.07 | xyan | davekong: get it from bpo |
| 22:35.08 | davekong | xyan: running a sprac machine |
| 22:35.22 | davekong | sparc |
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| 22:36.01 | xyan | davekong: http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/xz-lzma <- architecture independent?! |
| 22:36.08 | xyan | davekong: http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/xz-utils <- available for sparc |
| 22:36.23 | Diytto | xyan: What did you search? |
| 22:36.26 | franki^ | wandernauta: Each to their own, just remember that the Debian project only officially supports Stable, so things might break on you at any time if you use Unstable, and people might not be very sympathetic. :) |
| 22:36.30 | stew | xyan: yeah, its arch independent because its just symlinks |
| 22:36.30 | xyan | !tell davekong about bpo |
| 22:38.03 | davekong | ok thanks |
| 22:38.14 | wandernauta | franki^: Of course. Can I still ask here though? |
| 22:38.25 | xyan | stew: was clear to me, i always forget theres no such thing as !? in english |
| 22:38.51 | franki^ | wandernauta: You definitely can, and you might get all the help you need... but you might not. |
| 22:39.16 | stew | xyan: yeah, i interpreted it as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang |
| 22:39.22 | Diytto | xyan: What did you google for me? |
| 22:39.30 | franki^ | wandernauta: People using Unstable are generally expected to be a bit more "self sufficient", that's all |
| 22:39.46 | stew | wandernauta: yes, but we'll expect more of you, we'll expect you to demonstrate for sure that you are trying to help yourself, not just look to be spoon fed |
| 22:39.58 | xyan | Diytto: the only error message i could find in you dmesg output.. and it looks like that card is not supported/ no one reported it as working |
| 22:40.00 | wandernauta | :) |
| 22:40.08 | Diytto | :O |
| 22:40.13 | Diytto | Fml |
| 22:40.13 | Diytto | Ok |
| 22:40.22 | Diytto | So theres nothing i can do? |
| 22:40.27 | xyan | right |
| 22:40.37 | Diytto | Well that blowd :( |
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| 22:41.10 | Diytto | Okay heres an easy one how do i open the file viewer |
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| 22:41.39 | xyan | Diytto: its nautilus on gnome, hit the computer icon on your desktop? |
| 22:41.46 | Diytto | Its uh |
| 22:41.52 | wandernauta | Thanks all, I'm trying a reboot. Fingers crossed :) |
| 22:41.52 | Diytto | Not on my desktop |
| 22:41.53 | Diytto | :s |
| 22:42.28 | xyan | places menu in the upper panel? |
| 22:42.41 | Diytto | Its there but it wont open |
| 22:42.54 | Diytto | It says starting computer and then nothing happens |
| 22:44.04 | xyan | get some real hardware! as i said i dislike everything labled mac |
| 22:44.10 | xyan | so thats it good night |
| 22:44.18 | Diytto | Well it was there earlier |
| 22:44.22 | Diytto | :( |
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| 22:47.31 | smacnay | Is Glom in Debian? |
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| 22:48.06 | franki^ | aptitude show glom says yes |
| 22:48.13 | franki^ | Maybe |
| 22:48.25 | icebrain | dpkg: glom |
| 22:48.26 | dpkg | icebrain: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 22:48.32 | icebrain | meh |
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| 22:49.39 | icebrain | franki^: are you sure? not here, nor in the website |
| 22:49.50 | icebrain | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=glom&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 22:50.17 | franki^ | icebrain: Indeed, I think you might be right, sorry, I have to confess that I used my Ubuntu machine here at work to check. :o |
| 22:50.28 | Diytto | Lol |
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| 22:51.41 | p3rror | i have question, can you tell is it possible to change the mail address in mentors.debian.net |
| 22:52.19 | icebrain | p3rror: try asking in #debian-mentors at oftc |
| 22:52.21 | sernin | in regards to 'native' ipv6 support, do you just need to have an interfaces line like 'iface eth0 inet6' -- with no dhcp/static/etc. method? |
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| 22:52.34 | Diytto | How do i login as root desktop |
| 22:52.52 | p3rror | icebrain, thanks |
| 22:52.55 | icebrain | Diytto: don't |
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| 22:53.02 | Diytto | I want to mount a drive |
| 22:53.05 | Diytto | :( |
| 22:53.14 | icebrain | what drive? USB? |
| 22:53.15 | Diytto | Its my storage HDD |
| 22:53.24 | evilgeenius | Does debian have a way to easily create/manage services like solaris? |
| 22:53.25 | Diytto | Internal HDD |
| 22:54.16 | icebrain | Diytto: you can use 'su', mount the drive and then exit. But don't login as root in a graphical desktop, it's unsafe |
| 22:54.25 | Diytto | Well |
| 22:54.34 | Diytto | How do i mount it |
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| 22:54.39 | evilgeenius | Whats the best way to ensure that nginx is always running on debian? |
| 22:55.32 | Diytto | How do i mount a hard drive |
| 22:55.57 | icebrain | Diytto: man mount |
| 22:56.06 | Diytto | Thx :) |
| 22:56.11 | sernin | evilgeenius: runit, daemontools, monit |
| 22:56.18 | nkuttler | Diytto: and man 5 fstab |
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| 22:57.10 | smacnay | glom must be in stable or testing - not in sid |
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| 22:57.51 | Diytto | Wow i am so confused |
| 22:58.05 | icebrain | smacnay: it's not in Debian at all |
| 22:58.23 | smacnay | icebrain, ah, thanks - that clears up the mystery |
| 22:59.50 | Diytto | So would i do mount -l HDD.Name |
| 22:59.55 | Diytto | :s |
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| 23:02.26 | Diytto | How do i exit the manual |
| 23:02.37 | icebrain | Diytto: q |
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| 23:02.43 | Diytto | Aha |
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| 23:05.17 | Diytto | How can i give myself privs to mount a drive |
| 23:05.24 | Diytto | I do not understand the manual :( |
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| 23:06.14 | dougmencken | Diytto: oops, you are still here and still fighting with linux :) |
| 23:06.19 | Diytto | Yes |
| 23:06.20 | Diytto | Lol |
| 23:06.56 | dougmencken | Diytto: only root can mount devices; you can look at them using 'parted -l', for example (or GParted as GUI) |
| 23:06.59 | amphi | Diytto: pmount is useful for mounting removable devices, if that's what you mean |
| 23:07.17 | Diytto | Its a hard drive |
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| 23:07.49 | amphi | Diytto: man fstab ;) |
| 23:08.19 | amphi | Diytto: you need to put the 'user' option in the entry in /etc/fstab for a user to be able to mount the partition |
| 23:08.31 | Diytto | Ah |
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| 23:11.33 | dougmencken | better to not touch fstab, okay? |
| 23:12.27 | amphi | fondles fstab promiscuously |
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| 23:17.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | 09:41 < dougmencken> better to not touch fstab, okay? |
| 23:17.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | oops |
| 23:18.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | sorry about that dougmencken :s |
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| 23:19.41 | Oom | I need some help. How do I start a jar file |
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| 23:20.15 | icebrain | Oom: java -jar file.jar ? |
| 23:21.05 | Oom | not working |
| 23:21.26 | Oom | just says Aborted |
| 23:21.37 | Oom | "Also, please make sure you're running the Sun JVM... " |
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| 23:22.05 | franki^ | Oom: Well, are you using the Sun JVM? ;) |
| 23:22.12 | Oom | not sure |
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| 23:22.17 | Oom | never messed with java before |
| 23:22.27 | Oom | how do i check |
| 23:22.49 | evilgeenius | Can i add a user to the sudoers list in just one line? |
| 23:23.12 | franki^ | Oom: java -version |
| 23:23.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | evilgeenius: cheked the man page? |
| 23:23.29 | franki^ | Oom: You've probably got OpenJDK |
| 23:23.31 | Oom | java version "1.5.0" |
| 23:23.32 | Oom | gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.3.2 |
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| 23:24.02 | evilgeenius | Kamping_Kaiser: manpage for which command? |
| 23:24.16 | Oom | franki^, how do i get the sun jvm |
| 23:24.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | evilgeenius: `man 5 sudoers`, the man page of the config file |
| 23:24.56 | evilgeenius | Kamping_Kaiser: why do you put 5 in the middle? |
| 23:25.02 | icebrain | Oom: aptitude install sun-java6-jre |
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| 23:25.27 | Oom | sec |
| 23:25.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | evilgeenius: man man explains the sections |
| 23:25.56 | Oom | ok now what ice799 |
| 23:25.57 | Oom | ok now what icebrain |
| 23:26.53 | icebrain | Oom: update-alternatives --config java and choose the sun one |
| 23:27.09 | evilgeenius | Telling someone to read the man page is like asking them to slit their wrists... |
| 23:27.28 | Oom | /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java |
| 23:27.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | no, its not |
| 23:27.31 | Oom | this one? |
| 23:27.37 | icebrain | Oom: yes |
| 23:27.46 | icebrain | evilgeenius: lazy |
| 23:27.49 | icebrain | :P |
| 23:28.05 | Oom | great, it worked thanks |
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| 23:30.46 | JordiGH | Got an issue with OSS and ALSA apps not playing along nicely. This is so 2001. How do I fix it? It had never happened on this machine until an update. |
| 23:30.58 | JordiGH | And by "OSS" I mean "aoss some_old_oss_app" |
| 23:32.33 | Diytto | I mounted my HDD but all the folders have a lock on them |
| 23:32.39 | Diytto | How do i remove the locj |
| 23:32.41 | Diytto | Lock* |
| 23:33.15 | metalfoo | Obviously that is a permission problem. What file system are you referring to? |
| 23:33.31 | Diytto | What do you mean |
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| 23:33.37 | Diytto | Like what formatted it? |
| 23:33.40 | metalfoo | Yes |
| 23:33.58 | Diytto | Osx |
| 23:34.15 | evilgeenius | If i can only edit the sudoers file with visudo then how can I add to it with a script? |
| 23:34.59 | metalfoo | You mean HFS+? |
| 23:35.06 | jhutchins_lt | evilgeenius: Have you checked the manpages for visudo and sudoers? |
| 23:35.19 | evilgeenius | jhutchins_lt: yeah |
| 23:35.22 | Diytto | metalfoo: I dont know :< |
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| 23:35.33 | Diytto | All i know is that i made it on osx |
| 23:36.47 | metalfoo | You will likely have HFS+ which doesn't support Linux file permissions. Thus you have to provide the mount command additional parameters, i.e. an appropriate umask to grant regular users read/write access |
| 23:37.41 | Diytto | Ah |
| 23:37.44 | Diytto | How do i do this |
| 23:37.50 | jhutchins_lt | evilgeenius: Why would you want to modify it with a script? |
| 23:38.37 | Diytto | metalfoo: How do i add a umasj |
| 23:38.40 | Diytto | Umask* |
| 23:38.47 | mee | jhutchins_lt: configuration management software, perhaps |
| 23:38.53 | evilgeenius | jhutchins_lt: i have a script that installs packages/mysql/ruby/rails/my-apps onto a fresh vps debian install, and i want to make the script add a user to sudoers |
| 23:39.12 | flox | I wonder why there are so many browser aliases available http://paste.pocoo.org/show/286709/ |
| 23:39.16 | flox | it's confusing |
| 23:39.37 | mee | evilgeenius: I'd copy sudoers, edit it, run visudo -cf /path/new-file then if that passes, mv it over the old file |
| 23:40.07 | mee | assuming you have a relatively sane setup (/etc is not nfs mounted) that's fairly safe |
| 23:40.09 | flox | sensible-browser, x-www-browser and gnome-www-browser should be merged, imho |
| 23:40.25 | evilgeenius | mee: thanks. How can it go wrong? |
| 23:41.12 | mee | evilgeenius: if someone else is doing the same thing at the same time, your changes could get lost. Also, if someone is running visudo at the same time it might overwrite your changes or cause their visudo attempt to fail. It shouldn't hose sudo in either case, though. |
| 23:41.33 | mee | for what you're describing, it should be safe enough |
| 23:41.40 | Diytto | metalfoo? |
| 23:41.49 | Oom | ugh |
| 23:42.00 | Oom | http://pastebin.com/JYH6v3CD |
| 23:42.07 | Oom | can someone look at this and tell me why it keeps crashing |
| 23:42.23 | Oom | ive tried the legit client i bought and 3 pirated ones, all crash and break on me |
| 23:42.25 | evilgeenius | mee: so I could just cat "evilgeenius ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL" >> /etc/sudoers ? |
| 23:43.15 | mee | evilgeenius: that's not what I described and isn't as safe, but it might work |
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| 23:43.49 | evilgeenius | mee: well its only being run once |
| 23:46.07 | metalfoo | Diytto: I was discussing your case with dougmencken. He pointed out - and he's right - that write support for HFS+ is rather limited (while not impossible) on Linux. |
| 23:46.31 | Diytto | Ah |
| 23:46.39 | Diytto | He was going to bed |
| 23:46.47 | Diytto | I was talking to him a while ago |
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| 23:47.08 | Diytto | Im booting into osx |
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| 23:47.40 | Diytto | Would ubuntu be more networking friendly |
| 23:47.52 | metalfoo | You have to disable journalling on OSX in order to get write access on Linux. But don't do that. Journalling is a good thing. |
| 23:47.58 | dougmencken | having full ntfs support and ignoring hfs+ with "you either have a mac or use windows/linux" gives me insomnia |
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| 23:48.22 | metalfoo | dougmencken: Well. NTFS support also took years to become stable. |
| 23:48.37 | metalfoo | And write support wasn't available for years |
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| 23:49.23 | dougmencken | metalfoo: but there are hundreds of guys working on ntfs; and half of a guy working on hfs+ |
| 23:49.33 | Wicla | Hello. Are it possible to install a specific package (and it's dependencies) from let's say sid while keeping the rest of the system at lenny? |
| 23:49.52 | metalfoo | Possibly true, yes. |
| 23:50.09 | nkuttler | !tell Wicla about ssbp |
| 23:50.32 | dougmencken | !tell me about that ssbp too |
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| 23:50.57 | dougmencken | <dpkg> i dunno what is 'that ssbp too'. << :( |
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| 23:51.39 | dougmencken | today was a crazy day; 1 report, 2 patches |
| 23:51.42 | Diytto | I really hate booting debian atm |
| 23:51.50 | Diytto | Right now i am really hating debian |
| 23:52.03 | Devastator | good for you.. |
| 23:52.30 | dougmencken | Diytto: then stick with 10.5.8, coz Apple only allowed *Intel* guys to use newer systems |
| 23:52.42 | Diytto | :P |
| 23:52.45 | Diytto | Truth |
| 23:52.52 | dougmencken | as well as: OpenSuSE, Fedora, Finnix |
| 23:52.52 | Diytto | Ppc is sucking atm |
| 23:53.13 | Diytto | And to think |
| 23:53.21 | Diytto | All i wanted was java 6 jrd |
| 23:53.26 | amphi | Diytto: you're on ppc? |
| 23:53.26 | Diytto | Jdk and jre* |
| 23:53.29 | Diytto | Yes |
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| 23:53.52 | amphi | ISTR debian working well on a g4 ibook |
| 23:53.52 | dougmencken | Diytto: debain has them both; it's called openjdk (icedtea) |
| 23:54.01 | icebrain | !debain |
| 23:54.02 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 23:54.04 | icebrain | :P |
| 23:54.16 | Diytto | I know |
| 23:54.21 | Diytto | But no wifi support lol |
| 23:54.41 | dvs | is glad it wasn't "McBain" |
| 23:54.48 | metalfoo | Is there anything not fed into this bot? |
| 23:54.53 | amphi | it was some broadcom driver, I think - it worked |
| 23:54.55 | dougmencken | Diytto: but here, on gnu/linux, you can *try to fight* |
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| 23:55.10 | Diytto | amphi: Can you find it again? |
| 23:55.10 | dougmencken | Diytto: on os x side, you're just stuck with 1.5 |
| 23:55.15 | Diytto | I will love you forever |
| 23:55.23 | Diytto | dougmencken: Thats true |
| 23:55.41 | amphi | Diytto: it's an 'airport' card of some sort, no? |
| 23:56.15 | amphi | !airport |
| 23:56.15 | dpkg | AirPort is a wireless brand from Apple Inc. For support of the original AirPort Card (802.11b), ask me about <orinoco>. For support of AirPort Extreme (802.11g) cards, ask me about <b43>. For support of integrated AirPort Extreme 802.11a/b/g and /n devices, ask me about <what's my hardware>, then ask about either <ath5k>, <ath9k> (Atheros), <b43> or <wl> (Broadcom). |
| 23:56.24 | Wicla | thanks nkuttler |
| 23:58.02 | dougmencken | !name of founder |
| 23:58.32 | dougmencken | !ballmer |
| 23:58.32 | dpkg | methinks ballmer is Darth Maul to Gates' Palpatine, or fat, or nuts |
| 23:58.44 | dougmencken | ;) |
| 23:58.48 | icebrain | dougmencken: try Ian Murdock |
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| 23:59.32 | icebrain | btw, his factoid is outdated, Ian is certainly not working at Sun nowadays |
| 23:59.54 | dougmencken | nowadays there's no sun at all, only moon and oracle |
