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| 00:14.57 | andrewnemeth | hi guys |
| 00:15.41 | andrewnemeth | chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 00:15.58 | andrewnemeth | debootstrap while trying to install a 64bit os on top of 32bit one |
| 00:16.07 | andrewnemeth | any idea hw can I get this fixed? |
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| 00:17.10 | papabaer | andrewnemeth: chroot $your_root /bin/sh |
| 00:17.11 | trebuchet | What was that programming language/thing some reach-across computer scientists/engineers were discussing about to get the humanities majors interested in programming? |
| 00:18.20 | andrewnemeth | papabaer: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/sh': No such file or directory |
| 00:19.28 | papabaer | andrewnemeth: maybe there was an error while bootstrapping? check if bin/bash od bin sh is existing under your chroot_path |
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| 00:19.45 | papabaer | andrewnemeth: maybe you use the wrong path? |
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| 00:20.49 | jelly-home | andrewnemeth: you'll have to boot a kernel capable of running 64bit binaries for that to work |
| 00:21.07 | andrewnemeth | papabaer: its capable |
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| 00:21.19 | jelly-home | andrewnemeth: uname -a ? |
| 00:21.25 | andrewnemeth | I mean jelly |
| 00:21.26 | andrewnemeth | :) |
| 00:21.46 | andrewnemeth | jelly: its a 32bit os |
| 00:21.59 | jelly-home | that's not what I asked. |
| 00:22.00 | andrewnemeth | but the cpu supports both |
| 00:22.25 | andrewnemeth | http://pastebin.com/TvjGnDaq |
| 00:22.57 | deepy | 64bit binaries require 64bit libraries to work, do you have 64bit libraries? |
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| 00:23.03 | jelly-home | andrewnemeth: you'll have to boot a 64bit kernel. |
| 00:23.30 | andrewnemeth | hm |
| 00:23.45 | andrewnemeth | 32bit os will work on a 64bit kernel? |
| 00:23.56 | jelly-home | andrewnemeth: 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem cannot run 64bit binaries present in your chroot, install and boot an -amd64 flavor kernel. (and yes) |
| 00:24.13 | andrewnemeth | hm |
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| 00:24.20 | andrewnemeth | okey |
| 00:24.26 | jelly-home | just install linux-image-amd64 |
| 00:24.32 | andrewnemeth | right |
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| 00:25.14 | jelly-home | judd: versions linux-image-amd64 --arch i386 --release lenny |
| 00:25.15 | judd | Package linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 |
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| 00:43.28 | antivigilante | is there a way to get Debian 6.0 Live CD with kernel 2.6.36-trunk and firmware for rt2800 wifi (rt3090 chip)? |
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| 00:45.17 | un214 | here we go, converting mini-debian to full debian |
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| 00:48.10 | marshallmc | is there an easy way to uninstall all the packages that have been installed since the operating system was first configured? |
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| 00:51.54 | streuner_ | why somebody want that? |
| 00:53.00 | bombadil_ | is there an irc program that runs in terminal? i want to run IRC without logging into x-windows |
| 00:53.19 | streuner_ | mutt? |
| 00:53.21 | un214 | sirc |
| 00:53.36 | bombadil_ | thank you |
| 00:54.27 | bombadil_ | to elaborate even further, i want to get an extremely small computer (smallest one i can find that allows keyboard input and video output) and run IRC on it |
| 00:54.31 | bombadil_ | any ideas ? |
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| 00:54.57 | marshallmc | like a laptop? |
| 00:55.00 | papabaer | bombadil_: irssi |
| 00:55.13 | papabaer | streuner_: mutt is for sending/reading mail |
| 00:55.27 | papabaer | streuner_: sry, writing mail, not sendign |
| 00:55.32 | bombadil_ | marshallmc: lol, maybe that is the solution? i am sort of making an art project |
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| 00:55.45 | streuner_ | papabaer: UH, you are right |
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| 00:55.55 | papabaer | streuner_: no |
| 00:55.57 | streuner_ | papabaer: i misread the question |
| 00:56.02 | bombadil_ | i would prefer it to not be a laptop. i want to create a sort of "hidden terminal" |
| 00:56.03 | papabaer | streuner_: -o +p |
| 00:56.17 | papabaer | it's late |
| 00:56.23 | streuner_ | yeah |
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| 00:57.06 | papabaer | bombadil_: what do you mean with a hidden terminal? |
| 00:57.26 | papabaer | bombadil_: mayby try out an old palm and a keyboard? |
| 00:57.38 | bombadil_ | papabaer: it's hard to explain, it's an art project |
| 00:57.48 | bombadil_ | can palm run IRC ? |
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| 00:58.07 | bombadil_ | actually, can an old commodore run IRC ? |
| 00:58.16 | papabaer | bombadil_: i think there's an app for that :-D |
| 00:58.19 | bombadil_ | ccess IRC i mean |
| 00:58.22 | bombadil_ | *access |
| 00:58.41 | un214 | there's a C64 web server |
| 00:58.49 | arosen | Hello, I've installed bugzilla but how do i configure apache to display it ? I've added Alias /var/lib/bugzilla /var/www/bugzilla to my apache2.conf |
| 00:58.49 | arosen | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.51 | papabaer | bombadil_: irc is a text chat, not much to do there |
| 00:58.56 | un214 | and it took a six hour slashdotting w/o crashing |
| 01:00.18 | papabaer | papabaer: and you could use an old palm vx as a display, scrolling the text from irc and type with a keyboard. Both is then connected to any computer u find |
| 01:00.29 | bombadil_ | un214: are you serious? |
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| 01:00.45 | un214 | yes |
| 01:01.03 | bombadil_ | that is awesome. |
| 01:01.10 | un214 | a couple of times it didn't work simply because the guy's DSL link was saturated |
| 01:01.10 | bombadil_ | can c64s connect via ethernet ? |
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| 01:01.44 | un214 | I forget if the guy used a C64 ethernet card (yes they exist) or PPP bridge |
| 01:01.58 | bombadil_ | man |
| 01:01.59 | bombadil_ | un214 |
| 01:02.03 | bombadil_ | that is exactly what i want |
| 01:02.07 | Pinchiukas | Anybody can tell me whether IBM 43p-140 is a PReP or a CHRP machine? |
| 01:02.07 | bombadil_ | to run IRC on a c64 |
| 01:02.28 | bombadil_ | access it i mean. |
| 01:02.50 | un214 | they say the C64 was the first consumer dual core machine |
| 01:02.53 | bombadil_ | i just assumed they were too old so was thinking of getting a miniature computer and rigging up an old monitor to it, and running irc in terminal |
| 01:03.09 | bombadil_ | on linux that is |
| 01:03.11 | un214 | the floppy disk controlelr could do DMA and have its firmware replaced at runtime (didn't clobber the boot firmware) so ... |
| 01:03.30 | bombadil_ | wow |
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| 01:03.45 | un214 | and in this case the first generation the floppy controller was the same processor as the main CPU |
| 01:03.47 | bombadil_ | that is really cool |
| 01:03.50 | un214 | and the second generation it was faster even |
| 01:04.02 | Pinchiukas | Anybody can help me with my PPC thing? :) |
| 01:04.20 | Pinchiukas | I'd like to install Debian on my IBM 43p-140. |
| 01:04.47 | dougmencken | Pinchiukas: I'm the main ppc guy here :) |
| 01:05.04 | Pinchiukas | Maybe you could help me? :) |
| 01:05.17 | dougmencken | Pinchiukas: join #debianppc |
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| 01:06.35 | g_ | hi, i've added a new public ssh key to ssh authorized keys file, done an /etc/init.d/ssh restart, but i'm still refsed on the public key. do i have to do something else for it to be accepted? |
| 01:07.14 | un214 | which is the kde4 desktop package? |
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| 01:09.48 | papabaer | g_ normally u do not need to restart ssh |
| 01:10.21 | papabaer | g_ did this worked before you added the key ( with an other key ) |
| 01:11.04 | g_ | papabaer: yeah, the original key still works |
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| 01:11.32 | papabaer | g_ that's strange |
| 01:12.09 | papabaer | try connecting in verbose level an check where the client is yelling about |
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| 01:14.44 | somiaj | I'm trying to find a way to get a list of the full path the libs a binary is linking against |
| 01:14.59 | somiaj | (I belive it was some lddebug option but can't seem to track it down) |
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| 01:15.56 | un214 | ldd |
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| 01:17.44 | g_ | sorted |
| 01:17.53 | g_ | i can't copy/paste |
| 01:18.02 | innociv | I keep getting cron backed up and it's messing up my server, and I don't know what to do about it. It's cron that runs some php. |
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| 01:18.27 | innociv | IT ends up consuming all my cpu cycles and has all this sendmail stuff for errors |
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| 01:18.47 | somiaj | un214: Thanks, how about to get a debug of any libs linked to while running (I have a stray libgl causing a version missmatch I'm trying to hunt down) |
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| 01:19.05 | un214 | ldd asks the loader |
| 01:19.08 | somiaj | un214: aperentally the binary itself isn't linked directly to the lib I'm looking for |
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| 01:27.18 | krat0s | how do i change my bash to csh perm? |
| 01:27.36 | Dewi | krat0s: man usermod |
| 01:27.51 | Dewi | -s |
| 01:27.54 | krat0s | whats usermod got to do with his? |
| 01:28.05 | krat0s | this* |
| 01:28.35 | krat0s | usermod: Command not found. |
| 01:28.36 | krat0s | [pyre@ssh ~]$ |
| 01:28.50 | Dewi | you need to be root |
| 01:29.53 | krat0s | will it be perm? |
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| 01:34.07 | krat0s | dont think you can change it with cpanel installed... it keeps locking me out if i do usermod -s csh username |
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| 01:34.18 | erikk | hello there |
| 01:35.53 | papabaer | krat0s: login as root and change it in /etc/passwd? |
| 01:37.06 | fbs | iluminator101: using cryptsetup and your key? |
| 01:38.02 | krat0s | HAHA |
| 01:38.05 | krat0s | thanks papabaer :D |
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| 01:38.20 | iluminator101 | fbs i dont have the key, just the password |
| 01:39.00 | papabaer | iluminator101: cryptsetup ask u for the password/key |
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| 01:46.00 | iluminator101 | papabaer, Encrypted private directory is not setup properly?? |
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| 01:47.27 | papabaer | iluminator101: ? |
| 01:47.40 | un214 | How do I skip the kde3->kde4 conversion |
| 01:47.46 | un214 | my home dir is already kde4 |
| 01:48.01 | somiaj | un214: could you just modify the postint script? |
| 01:48.12 | un214 | uh it's current user and happened on next login |
| 01:48.18 | iluminator101 | ecryptfs-mount-private --> Encrypted private directory is not setup properly |
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| 01:49.09 | papabaer | iluminator101: well, i only use cryptsetup for external devices |
| 01:49.40 | papabaer | maybe mounting direct with cryptsetup? |
| 01:49.55 | iluminator101 | this is my /home partition on my hard drive not an external device |
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| 01:50.45 | iluminator101 | i had lucid i installed squeeze on / lucid wasnt working out for me, and i am trying to access the lucid /home from the newly installed squeeze / |
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| 01:51.17 | papabaer | i would try test mounting it with cryptsetup and check if this is working |
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| 01:51.35 | un214 | The debian conversion wizard is detecting a kde3->kde4 conversion |
| 01:51.37 | un214 | it is wrong |
| 01:51.59 | un214 | how do I fix it |
| 01:52.06 | Arrowmaster | theres a debian conversion wizard? |
| 01:52.28 | un214 | says debian kde settings migration wizrd |
| 01:52.56 | papabaer | un214: use gnome :-D |
| 01:53.09 | un214 | anybody got a better answer? |
| 01:53.18 | un214 | it won't let me get past it |
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| 01:53.33 | Arrowmaster | not really, i dont use kde so i have no clue what you are talking about |
| 01:53.37 | papabaer | killall *-wizard |
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| 01:54.17 | un214 | it sees what are probably old kde3 files in .kde from an old conversion from jumping from slackware to ubuntu a long time ago |
| 01:54.22 | un214 | the home dir is really already kde4 |
| 01:54.33 | un214 | so neither option it asks for is correct |
| 01:55.34 | papabaer | un214: maybe rename .kde to .kde.bak |
| 01:55.36 | un214 | how do I bypass this wizard? |
| 01:55.45 | un214 | huh what dumb answer |
| 01:56.13 | papabaer | un214: isn't the kde4 settings directory .kde4? |
| 01:56.18 | un214 | no it is .kde |
| 01:56.34 | papabaer | did this change? |
| 01:56.56 | un214 | yes |
| 01:57.25 | papabaer | some time ago as i was testing kde4 the directory in debian for kde4 .kde4 and for kde3 it was stick to .kde |
| 01:57.42 | papabaer | then sry for that incorrect answer |
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| 01:59.20 | un214 | hmmm conversion wizard smashed stuff |
| 01:59.25 | un214 | now to restore backup |
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| 02:01.02 | un214 | darn it restoring the backup *DID NOT WORK* |
| 02:01.13 | un214 | congradulations you lost all my settings |
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| 02:06.19 | un214 | where is desktop background now? |
| 02:07.34 | yagoo | un214, congratulations for misspelling congratulations |
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| 02:08.03 | somiaj | un214: #kde might know those specifics better |
| 02:08.05 | fishcooker | how to kill spesific user on pts/* |
| 02:08.08 | fishcooker | ? |
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| 02:08.43 | somiaj | fishcooker: do you want to just kill instances on pts/* or all process owned by that user |
| 02:08.48 | un214 | kde's not the one who had a broken conversion program |
| 02:08.49 | somiaj | fishcooker: slaw will kill every single process |
| 02:09.20 | somiaj | fishcooker: arg slay |
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| 02:10.23 | fishcooker | i want to kill on the spesific pts |
| 02:10.57 | somiaj | un214: nor was the conversion program designed for your setup. but #kde will be able to tell you where to set up the desktop background |
| 02:11.25 | un214 | nor did its backup actually work |
| 02:12.48 | somiaj | fishcooker: can't think of any tool, but you could prase output from 'ps faux' to match pts/? and user to all the process id's |
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| 02:27.01 | fishcooker | thanks all |
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| 02:28.29 | blocktree | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:30.30 | jhutchins | blocktree: Yeah, it's crap at this point, kdesudo or ksudo systemsettings |
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| 02:36.58 | blocktree | jhutchins: I tried that but no luck :-( I'm asked for a password but thes abot it... I also tried run it as a root with x enabled for root and got error message systemsettings(2665): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection |
| 02:36.59 | blocktree | was broken." |
| 02:37.44 | blocktree | at this poitn all I need is to enable autologin for my user account..is there some another way around |
| 02:37.49 | blocktree | ? |
| 02:37.56 | jhutchins | Blegh. Dunno what accretion of errors you have, kdesudo/kdesu works on working systems. |
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| 02:38.44 | jhutchins | Jeah, login manager should ask for root password, sounds like you may be running a non standard system. Not lenny? |
| 02:39.17 | blocktree | works on working systems? no one can argue with that...if it would not work that would not be a worng system :-) |
| 02:39.41 | jhutchins | Ja. vell. |
| 02:39.42 | blocktree | jhutchins: sorry ..no this is a testing version.. |
| 02:40.02 | jhutchins | Ah, so indeterminate variables have been introduced. |
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| 02:40.17 | blocktree | jhutchins: :-) |
| 02:40.44 | jhutchins | Nonetheless, login manger prompts for root password here. |
| 02:41.02 | jhutchins | Must not touch, belongs to wife, travelling tomorrow. |
| 02:42.03 | blocktree | jhutchins: login manager? you mean kdm? |
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| 02:42.32 | jhutchins | blocktree: Sorry, not up to troubleshooting now, end-of-shift. No, login manager is the name of the KDE app that sets up logins. |
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| 02:43.44 | srruby | In debian testing I'm getting an error starting mysql. mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.49-1). Any ideas? |
| 02:44.19 | blackshirt | srubby: can you pastebin completely your output when you running it ?? |
| 02:44.30 | srruby | ok |
| 02:44.50 | jhutchins | blocktree: Mostly not here now, but no. that's the app in the menu on kde4. |
| 02:47.27 | blocktree | jhutchins: got it !!! thanks |
| 02:48.55 | srruby | http://pastebin.com/y7DWMtGJ |
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| 02:50.21 | blackshirt | srubby: have you try to reconfigure it ?? |
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| 02:52.45 | srruby | how would you reconfigure it? |
| 02:53.09 | blackshirt | just issuing it on terminal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server |
| 02:53.28 | blackshirt | or look at your log.. |
| 02:53.30 | srruby | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.04 | blackshirt | srubby: your installation of mysql-server maybe broken..check out |
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| 02:54.18 | blackshirt | srubby: are you sure you have succesfully installed it ? |
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| 02:56.51 | srruby | I uninstalled it and installed it again. I see this |
| 02:56.53 | srruby | insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `mysql' overwrites defaults (2 3 4 5). |
| 02:56.53 | srruby | insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `mysql' overwrites defaults (0 1 6). |
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| 02:58.15 | blackshirt | insserv: it was utility to reorganize boot sequences |
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| 03:10.58 | qfr | Hmm what kernel version does 5.0.4 use and which one does 5.0.6 use? I am having immense bugs with VMWare's guest file system drivers in Arch Linux 2.6.36 so I thought I might give an older version of Debian a go. Officially VMWare Workstation only supports up to 5.0.4 on 64-bit though. |
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| 03:15.28 | srruby | I tried purging mysql and reinstalling it, but it still won't start |
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| 03:15.44 | paradigm | qfr: both use 2.6.26-*. I know the latest is 2.6.26-2, not sure about 5.0.4, probably -1 |
| 03:16.00 | qfr | Ah so 5.0.6 might still work fine hmmm |
| 03:16.08 | qfr | Downloaded AMD64 5.0.4 CD1 anyways |
| 03:16.30 | paradigm | There's always etch or sarge :D |
| 03:17.04 | paradigm | but I figrue lenny will get the job done as you've described it |
| 03:17.11 | qfr | vmware.com says those aren't supported lol |
| 03:17.16 | qfr | shrugs helplessly |
| 03:17.25 | paradigm | I doubt a small bugfix revision is going to break VMWare support |
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| 03:17.43 | paradigm | as long as it's 2.6.26 - as it was in 5.0.4 - you're probably fine |
| 03:17.52 | srruby | http://pastebin.com/3XwFSH19 |
| 03:18.32 | rue_house | how hard would it be for me to re-introduce xmms1 is a debian package? |
| 03:20.19 | blackshirt | srubby: still there ? |
| 03:20.33 | blackshirt | rue_house: what you mean ? |
| 03:20.34 | srruby | yes, I'm back, thanks |
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| 03:31.44 | qfr | Hmm what repositories do I need to enable to get openssh-server? |
| 03:31.54 | qfr | "Package openssh-server is not available [...]" |
| 03:32.16 | blackshirt | qtr: it was on should your main repository |
| 03:32.58 | qfr | It has the default 5.0.4 setup only atm, deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
| 03:33.07 | qfr | And I did run apt-get update before I ran apt-get install openssh-server |
| 03:33.07 | paradigm | qfr: did you do an update yet? |
| 03:33.10 | paradigm | ah |
| 03:33.12 | paradigm | well |
| 03:33.14 | paradigm | hmm |
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| 03:33.28 | blackshirt | qtr: check your repository again.. |
| 03:33.29 | qfr | I commented out volatile.debian.org though |
| 03:33.51 | paradigm | qfr: do you only have security? |
| 03:33.57 | qfr | Atm yes |
| 03:34.01 | qfr | I'm not sure what volatile is |
| 03:34.02 | blackshirt | qtr: not just that repo ? |
| 03:34.07 | qfr | It's qfr btw, not qtr |
| 03:34.15 | paradigm | qfr: I think you may need a normal repo too |
| 03:34.20 | paradigm | security is only for security updates |
| 03:34.28 | qfr | Oh, which one should I add then? |
| 03:34.52 | qfr | I mean even with volatile it said no installation candidates hm |
| 03:35.03 | paradigm | http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 03:35.10 | paradigm | find one for your region of the globe |
| 03:35.28 | paradigm | qfr: security is just for security updates, volitile is for things that update often (like antivirus definitions) |
| 03:35.34 | paradigm | you need a normal repo for normal packages |
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| 03:36.40 | qfr | That did the trick, thanks |
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| 03:36.44 | paradigm | happy to help |
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| 03:36.49 | qfr | I haven't used Debian in ages |
| 03:37.02 | blackshirt | qfr: yes, you must activate normal repository |
| 03:37.05 | paradigm | not quite like riding a bike, but it'll come back to you :D |
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| 03:47.07 | Diytto | A have a fabulous script ipea |
| 03:47.10 | Diytto | Idea* |
| 03:47.21 | Diytto | If someone could help me later? |
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| 03:50.43 | peterrooney | 3/4 of my wav / mp3 files either fail to play, or play fuzz/brapp with aplay, mpg123, xine; the audio played bears no relation to the files. xine spectrograph shows the correct sounds played even though sound coming out of speakers is incorrect. Have run alsaconf and alsamixer. lenny, snd-cmipci |
| 03:53.15 | srruby | still unable to install mysql-server on debian testing. I deleted all the cache files. |
| 03:53.37 | srruby | should I try mysql's installer? |
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| 04:08.15 | rue_house | blackshirt, I mean to make a new package for xmms1 |
| 04:08.29 | rue_house | they dropped the deb for it |
| 04:08.38 | rue_house | but its still the best player out |
| 04:09.28 | paradigm | rue_house: do you want to make a .deb for yourself - maybe host your own deb repo - or to get it in the official Debian repos? |
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| 04:09.55 | peterrooney | rue_house: I too, feel your loss. however, IIRC, it was abandoned upstream; security issues abound with unmaintained code making it unsuitable for debian.... plus, audacious is similar enough for most people. |
| 04:09.55 | paradigm | mind you I won't be any help to get either done, I'm just curious |
| 04:10.04 | rue_house | well, xmms used to be a deb, so I'm wondering what it would take to pick it back up and make one again |
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| 04:10.31 | peterrooney | rue_house: visit the debian archives |
| 04:10.37 | rue_house | audacious sucks, crashy, slow |
| 04:10.43 | rue_house | buggy |
| 04:10.52 | Dewi | rue_house: xmms2 is packaged. I'm preferring mpd now tho |
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| 04:11.14 | rue_house | xmms2 is not xmms, xmms2 is a backend like the other 4000 out there |
| 04:11.30 | rue_house | I have a bash script that is what xmms2 is |
| 04:12.00 | Dewi | somehow I doubt that |
| 04:12.03 | rue_house | so, to put it back in official deb repo... |
| 04:12.08 | Dewi | anyway, those seem to be the 2 main ones |
| 04:12.26 | paradigm | rue_house: sounds like you'd need to fix the security issues and make it seem like it's been maintained to get it officialized |
| 04:12.40 | rue_house | is there a list of bugs against it? |
| 04:12.44 | peterrooney | rue_house: you'd have to maintain the entire package. how much time do you have? |
| 04:12.46 | paradigm | but for personal use, if you can ./configure;make;sudo make install you can probably make a .deb for yourself |
| 04:13.17 | rue_house | maybe I should start with a hello world package |
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| 04:15.23 | Dewi | rue_house: even the CVS is down. It's very much a dead project |
| 04:16.28 | rue_house | maybe its in something newer |
| 04:17.04 | rue_house | iirc people stopped using cvs about 2 years after it came out in preference of something that was used for about a year before git came out |
| 04:17.13 | Dewi | ... |
| 04:17.17 | peterrooney | rue_house: http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xmms/ if you are aware of the security issues involved. |
| 04:17.29 | Dewi | rue_house: no, all the links on the web site are dead |
| 04:17.39 | Dewi | rue_house: and CVS was used for a loooong, long time. |
| 04:17.50 | Dewi | rue_house: (and still is) |
| 04:18.48 | Dewi | rue_house: oh, do you mean just for xmms? Yeah, basically all the links on the site are broken except the tarball |
| 04:19.29 | Dewi | oh yeah that's right |
| 04:19.47 | Dewi | a maintained site with debian packages is here, rue_house http://legacy.xmms2.org/ |
| 04:20.37 | rue_house | still it was pointed out the gtk interface needs to be updated, and your talking about soem recurity problems I have guesses on |
| 04:21.02 | rue_house | I hear it has plugin problems, I can see it not being a problem ifthe project is given a feature freeze |
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| 04:21.46 | rue_house | I always wondered what would happen to projects that reached ideal, it seems they get cancer and die |
| 04:22.09 | rue_house | audacious will need another 3+ years to work out its bugs |
| 04:24.05 | rue_house | its not like its worth reporting bugs like "eq froze" or "deleted song brings player to a halt" or "god awefull redraw performance when dragged" only one of those is something even addressable by a coder |
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| 04:24.51 | Dewi | rue_house: instability is addressable. There's a good chance they are aware of it tho. |
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| 04:27.20 | peterrooney | My question of the day: 3/4 of my wav / mp3 files either fail to play, or play fuzz/brapp with aplay, mpg123, xine; the audio played bears no relation to the files. xine spectrograph shows the correct sounds played even though sound coming out of speakers is incorrect. Have run alsaconf and alsamixer. lenny, snd-cmipci |
| 04:28.51 | Gorroth | hi |
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| 04:30.19 | EmleyMoor | I am trying to use audacity to record some sound - as I have often done before - but it will not monitor, nor actually go when I try to record. |
| 04:31.43 | Gorroth | let us say we have a source packag that has a fresh debian/ directory in it after a dh_make. let's say that the main source directory has a set of files in /path/to/src/doc that you'd eventually like debian to put in the new src-doc_VERSION_all.deb |
| 04:32.02 | Gorroth | how would i get thosse docs into the right spot so that when i run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, it does that? |
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| 04:32.49 | Gorroth | actually, i might know |
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| 04:34.38 | Diytto | Hey guys how can i search my hole filesystem for a directory or file? |
| 04:34.43 | Diytto | whole* |
| 04:35.03 | EmleyMoor | Diytto: Use find from the root? |
| 04:35.30 | Diytto | find <file> |
| 04:35.33 | Diytto | ? |
| 04:35.33 | monkey_d_luffy | I'm moving a 2.1GB directory with 600 files inside an external HDD (the move happens in the same disk)... wth does it take 10 minutes to do so? Isn't a move just a reference update? Why does it have to write all (meta)data again?!!! |
| 04:35.34 | Gorroth | you can also use 'locate' if your locate database is up to date to try a quick fast serach |
| 04:35.48 | Diytto | Hehe locate db is not up to date |
| 04:35.57 | Diytto | Im doing this on my ipod :P |
| 04:36.00 | Gorroth | Diytto: man find. also, 'find <dir> -type f -iname '<fileglob>'" |
| 04:36.03 | EmleyMoor | find / -name expression -print should work |
| 04:36.35 | Gorroth | take '-type f' out of mine. it limits it to files |
| 04:36.47 | Diytto | Oh i want a file :) |
| 04:37.01 | Diytto | But will it tell me where exactly it is at? |
| 04:37.10 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
| 04:37.15 | Diytto | Alright |
| 04:37.22 | Diytto | Brb i will try |
| 04:37.35 | Gorroth | also, read the man page on find |
| 04:37.49 | Diytto | im not sure if i even have it |
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| 04:39.17 | Diytto | What is the fileglob for? |
| 04:39.28 | Diytto | Bad phrasing, what does it do? |
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| 04:40.39 | EmleyMoor | Diytto: It's your search term - to specify what you are looking for |
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| 04:40.57 | Diytto | Oh right |
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| 04:42.55 | Diytto | K its working :) |
| 04:43.25 | Diytto | O.o it didnt find anything?! :O |
| 04:43.36 | qfr | Hmm how do you remove certain paths from mlocate in Debian? In Arch Linux there was a configuration file in /etc for it but I didn't see any |
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| 04:44.07 | EmleyMoor | Diytto: Perhaps what you specified was not quite what you needed to specify |
| 04:44.09 | qfr | The /etc/cron.daily/mlocate script does not appear to reference any configuration paths either hmm |
| 04:44.39 | Diytto | Hmm maybe |
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| 04:45.05 | Diytto | Will it automatically print what it finds? |
| 04:45.35 | EmleyMoor | Diytto: I think so but put -print to be sure |
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| 04:45.52 | Diytto | Hmm still nothing weird |
| 04:46.32 | EmleyMoor | I can't help you formulate your search without more information from you |
| 04:47.04 | Diytto | Aha got it now :) |
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| 04:49.32 | Diytto | Whoops i forgot the -iname its listing like thousands of files lol |
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| 05:09.25 | blast_hardcheese | Doesn't need to be amazing or anything, just want to do more stuff with my servers |
| 05:13.19 | qfr | Ah I figured it out, ldconfig |
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| 05:39.00 | theTrav | so we're trying to build a .deb locally it works fine, but when we upload it to our repo and install it via synaptic, it sets permissions on /. to -rwx------ ... anyone ever seen that happen before? we're a bit stumped as to the cause |
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| 05:51.24 | holycow | hey guys |
| 05:51.32 | holycow | i have a bunch of drives plugged into my box |
| 05:51.48 | blast_hardcheese | cool |
| 05:52.12 | holycow | i've tried adding some additional drives via usb and fstab show them as bieng /dev/sdj1 and /dev/sdk1 but they don't actually show up in /dev |
| 05:52.50 | holycow | they just show up as /dev/sdj and /dev/sdk |
| 05:53.04 | holycow | does anyone know if there is a limit to the number of devices that can get listed in /dev perhaps? |
| 05:53.29 | blast_hardcheese | holycow: Have you tried fdisk -l /dev/sdj to see if there's a real partition structure on them? sudo file -s /dev/sdj could also be useful |
| 05:53.56 | holycow | interesting, right. i know there are but perhaps ... something happened. right |
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| 05:56.19 | blast_hardcheese | holycow: To answer your question, I'm not aware of any limit to /partitions/ that show up in /dev/; There might be a limit to disks, but I don't think disks would show up without their partitions. I'm not an expert of that part of Linux though, so my answer is not definitive, it's all I can offer |
| 06:01.05 | holycow | blast_hardcheese: of course. i'm just doing a sanity check, it is what i thought as well. |
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| 06:01.16 | holycow | blast_hardcheese: i appreciate your help |
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| 06:17.23 | tpocra | I am using squeeze netinst beta1 and I am trying to install Debian onto my RAID-0 array which is fakeraid via my motherboard SATA controller |
| 06:17.38 | tpocra | But in the manual partioning section of d-i I only see the 2 SSDs individually |
| 06:17.43 | tpocra | no RAID-0 array |
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| 06:19.39 | Dewi | tpocra: yeah, fakeraid needs software cooperation. It's probably easier to use software RAID |
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| 06:20.30 | tpocra | Dewi: It needs 'software cooperation"... you mean Debian can't see it because it doesn'thave proper drivers or what? |
| 06:20.50 | tpocra | I was able to install Windows onto this RAID-0 array, I'd be utterly shocked to find that Debian is unable to but Windows is. |
| 06:21.27 | tpocra | Does anyone else have experience installing Debian onto fakeraid? |
| 06:21.33 | Dewi | tpocra: why do you want to? |
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| 06:21.53 | Dewi | raid0 doesn't calculate hashes, it's just an addressing scsheme |
| 06:21.58 | Dewi | er, scheme |
| 06:22.01 | Dewi | why not use software raid? |
| 06:22.03 | tpocra | Dewi: I don't want to overwrite the preexisting partitions. |
| 06:22.17 | tpocra | I don't knpow where they end exactly, I am used to seeing everything detected in d-i |
| 06:22.18 | cantido | fakeraid basically is software raid ;) |
| 06:22.31 | tpocra | Yeah but why can't d-i see what I've done to these disks already? |
| 06:22.33 | Dewi | tpocra: well, what kind of fakeraid is it? |
| 06:22.37 | tpocra | Is it a SATA controlelr driver limitation? |
| 06:22.41 | tpocra | RAID-0 |
| 06:22.46 | tpocra | AMD chipset |
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| 06:23.10 | Dewi | tpocra: well, you need to find out what level of support there is for that particular southbridge's fakeraid |
| 06:23.38 | Dewi | tpocra: there are many varieties and the manufacturers generally don't release any details |
| 06:24.09 | tpocra | I thought AMD releases the specifications for the southbride I have. |
| 06:24.17 | Dewi | tpocra: apparently dmraid supports a bunch of them tho |
| 06:24.23 | Dewi | http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
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| 06:24.44 | tpocra | Okay well Ubuntu was able to see the RAID-0 array and made a file in /dev/mapper/ |
| 06:24.53 | tpocra | And it saw the Windoze partitions |
| 06:25.01 | tpocra | So I know it is possible, but d-i is failing on this for some reason. |
| 06:26.03 | Dewi | tpocra: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
| 06:26.40 | Dewi | tpocra: booting the installer with 'dmraid=true' might help it probe |
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| 06:47.14 | tpocra | Dewi: HAH! |
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| 06:47.18 | tpocra | You are fucking awesome. |
| 06:47.27 | tpocra | I knew Debian was 1337 enough to see this shit. |
| 06:47.32 | Dewi | np |
| 06:48.05 | tpocra | Funny, it calls it the same as Ubuntu... /dev/mapper/pdc_iecjjdjch |
| 06:48.10 | tpocra | I wonder how Linux comes up with that name. |
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| 06:54.47 | blast_hardcheese | tpocra: might be how the fakeraid advertises itself |
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| 06:56.34 | tpocra | Woohoo 256-bit Serpent encrypted root partition on RAID-0 Vertex 2 SSDs!!! |
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| 07:18.33 | blast_hardcheese | So I've got this cool 4-port KVM that supports USB switching; Unfortunately every time I switch away from my desktop (which I've got a custom xmodmap setup for) my xmodmap settings get clobbered. |
| 07:18.48 | blast_hardcheese | Is there a way to fix this on a per-user basis? |
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| 07:19.11 | blast_hardcheese | I don't want to force all users of my machine to have my funky xmodmap setup, but the only solutions I've seen involve udev scripts |
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| 07:29.32 | blackshirt | i no have experience with that :) |
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| 07:37.43 | tpocra | What version of Linux kernel should I use in order to safely use ext4 as my root filesystem. |
| 07:38.22 | tpocra | It will be installed to a 72 GiB logical volume on a striped RAID-0 array of Vertex 2 SSDs |
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| 07:40.34 | blackshirt | tpocra: i think, 2.6.32 used by debian squeeze has support ext4 |
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| 07:45.00 | tpocra | blackshirt: I am not talking about what it supports. |
| 07:45.52 | tpocra | I am talking about good idea with respect to bugs and glitches that make it not a good idea to use on / partition, or make ext4 significantly better or worse on SSDs. |
| 07:46.02 | blackshirt | tpocra: if you using stock kernel from stable repo (lenny) it's still under development, you must use kernel above 2.6.29... |
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| 07:46.50 | tpocra | blackshirt: I am looking to use 2.6.35 ot 2.6.36 once I install the base system. |
| 07:47.00 | blackshirt | ok |
| 07:48.46 | blackshirt | tpocra: maybe you would try btrfs |
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| 07:51.49 | tpocra | blackshirt: I dunno, I think I'll stick with something tried and true and stable as balls for my / FS |
| 07:51.58 | tpocra | I just went with ext3 |
| 07:52.35 | tpocra | I'll play with performance differences between ext3, ext4, and btrfs in the 3 WD Caviar Greens I have outside of my RAID-0 array |
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| 07:57.14 | blackshirt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:03.53 | umarzuki | hi all, is it possible to test hylafax-server to send fax to the fax machine on same line as the modem used? |
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| 08:05.14 | bohne | hi, i have veryhigh memory usage, i can see it in top, but i don't see any process that uses much memory. How can i debug this? |
| 08:05.27 | bohne | (on armel architecture) |
| 08:06.08 | Bushmills | bohne: are you looking under VIRT or under RES? |
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| 08:06.28 | tpocra | I installed Debian onto the second half of a RAID-0 array of 2 identical drives. At the installation part where I amm supposed to install GRUB, it fails to install to the MBR. |
| 08:06.41 | Bushmills | (assuming that "very high usage" means, your system uses a lot of swap) |
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| 08:07.24 | tpocra | Should I install it to my /boot partition (256 MiB)? |
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| 08:08.26 | vtts | tpocra, is it a soft raid? |
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| 08:08.48 | tpocra | vtts: It is fakeraid |
| 08:08.58 | vtts | mdX ? |
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| 08:09.03 | tpocra | With another OS already installed on the first have of it. |
| 08:09.09 | vtts | or provided by motherboard? |
| 08:09.10 | tpocra | vtts: No, that's software RAID managed with mdadm |
| 08:09.10 | Bushmills | tpocra: depending in the reason why it doesn't install, --force may be an option |
| 08:09.15 | tpocra | This is fakeraid on the mobo |
| 08:09.30 | Bushmills | on the reason ... |
| 08:09.52 | vtts | tpocra, if its mdadm, install into hard disk itself |
| 08:10.03 | vtts | i.e. /dev/sdX |
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| 08:10.42 | tpocra | vtts: That's the MBR |
| 08:10.55 | tpocra | would you install to sda and sdb |
| 08:11.01 | vtts | yes |
| 08:11.07 | tpocra | (those are the two drives that are RAID-0) |
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| 08:11.18 | tpocra | Ive done RAID-1 and that makes sense to mirror, I am new to RAID-0 though |
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| 08:11.44 | tpocra | "Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda" |
| 08:11.54 | tpocra | "Executing grub-install /dev/sda' failed" |
| 08:11.57 | Worf | fakeraid always have given me horrors ... |
| 08:11.59 | tpocra | "This is a fatal error. |
| 08:12.01 | vtts | grubÄ? |
| 08:12.04 | vtts | grub2? |
| 08:12.17 | vtts | or legacy? |
| 08:12.20 | tpocra | vtts: I assume grub2, this is the squeeze beta1 netinst disc |
| 08:12.31 | vtts | ok, so it should take care of that |
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| 08:13.06 | tpocra | Take care of what? |
| 08:13.14 | tpocra | It's certainly not verbose enough in the error duplay. |
| 08:13.17 | tpocra | *display |
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| 08:16.44 | bohne | Bushmills: whats de difference of virt / res? |
| 08:17.45 | tpocra | Is it feasable to install GRUB to my /boot partition? |
| 08:17.48 | Bushmills | RES is the RAM actually used, VIRT the amound of mem the process allocated but doesn't necessarily use. |
| 08:18.03 | tpocra | I just fear that the motherboard is just going to point to the MBR of the drives and my other OS will boot. |
| 08:18.17 | tpocra | I am trying to get GRUB to be the first thing the machine loads after the POST |
| 08:18.18 | Bushmills | amount .. |
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| 08:19.47 | bohne | Bushmills: and the space under virt is not usable for other processes? |
| 08:20.49 | Bushmills | question makes no sense. other processes do not *not use* something what isn't neccessarily used by this process. |
| 08:21.19 | Bushmills | consider the amount under VIRT as worst case memory use |
| 08:21.42 | vtts | tpocra, have you tried: grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 08:22.00 | bohne | Bushmills: the sum of all VIRT values should be the total amount of memory used? |
| 08:22.09 | tpocra | vtts: Did you see the errors I got? |
| 08:22.16 | vtts | pastebin them |
| 08:22.19 | tpocra | [03:11:54] <tpocra> "Executing grub-install /dev/sda' failed" |
| 08:22.28 | Bushmills | no. it sums up what *could* be used, but in reality isn't |
| 08:22.38 | vtts | tpocra, is that all? |
| 08:22.48 | tpocra | [03:11:59] <tpocra> "This is a fatal error. |
| 08:22.53 | tpocra | Yeah that's all. |
| 08:24.26 | vtts | tpocra, maybe you have a mbr protection in bios? |
| 08:24.30 | bohne | Bushmills: the sum of VIRT is all reserved memory, can i see this? |
| 08:24.39 | bohne | Bushmills: can i say this i mean |
| 08:24.59 | Bushmills | well, i suppose you could see it that way, ywsa |
| 08:25.00 | Bushmills | yes |
| 08:25.03 | tpocra | vtts: maybe it is the fakeraid? |
| 08:25.07 | vtts | no |
| 08:25.15 | vtts | fake raid has nothing to do with mbr |
| 08:25.28 | Bushmills | only, "reserved" not in the exclusive sense |
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| 08:26.24 | Bushmills | like, you reserve a seat in a restaurant, but have no garantie that it will actually be available for you once you get there |
| 08:26.27 | vtts | tpocra, does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" give you any output? |
| 08:27.20 | Bushmills | but you reserved 4 seats anyway on the pure chance that you bring somebody along |
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| 08:27.56 | andrewnemeth | hello |
| 08:28.06 | ChesterX | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:28.10 | andrewnemeth | echo "savedefault --default=2 --once" | grub --batch |
| 08:28.17 | andrewnemeth | doesnt set boot order |
| 08:28.19 | andrewnemeth | why? |
| 08:29.13 | tpocra | vtts: holy balls |
| 08:29.18 | tpocra | Unable to seek on /dev/sda |
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| 08:29.24 | tpocra | but it shows /dev/sdb just fine. |
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| 08:30.53 | vtts | tpocra, pastebin: grep sd /var/log/dmesg |
| 08:31.25 | tpocra | vtts: I only have syslog and partman in that dir |
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| 08:31.32 | tpocra | This is debian-installer |
| 08:31.36 | tpocra | I have an ash shell |
| 08:31.42 | vtts | dmesg | grep sd |
| 08:31.56 | vtts | what devices do you see? |
| 08:31.58 | umarzuki | anyone had configured hylafax on lenny before? |
| 08:32.10 | umarzuki | i got this error whenever i started it |
| 08:32.11 | tpocra | It talks about sda and sdb |
| 08:32.12 | umarzuki | Starting HylaFAX: syncing directories...ERROR: /var/spool/hylafax/etc/config is newer than /etc/hylafax/config |
| 08:32.23 | tpocra | vtts: last sda line: |
| 08:32.55 | tpocra | "sda: p2 size 321705984 exceeds device capacity, enabling native capacity" |
| 08:32.57 | tpocra | and then |
| 08:33.03 | umarzuki | copying /etc/hylafax/config* to /var/spool/hylafax/ would not fix it |
| 08:33.18 | tpocra | "sda: p2 size 321705984 exceeds device capacity, limited to end of disk" |
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| 08:34.38 | chatme | hi |
| 08:34.55 | chatme | is anyone using fusionpbx? |
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| 08:35.29 | vtts | tpocra, do you have any valuable data on the device? |
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| 08:36.05 | at0m | hi, why could (nfs-common?) be 'pausing' so long on boot? it like doubles boot times of my machines with auto nfs mounts in fstab.. |
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| 08:36.29 | chatme | is it vm? |
| 08:37.10 | chatme | is it dhcp? |
| 08:37.32 | at0m | chatme: are those questions directed at me or related to the fusionpbx? |
| 08:37.42 | chatme | at0m: hmm |
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| 08:37.55 | chatme | at0m: is it DHCP? |
| 08:38.16 | at0m | i use dhcp on a laptop and static on a desktop |
| 08:38.18 | chatme | at0m: or not |
| 08:38.35 | at0m | both behave the same |
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| 08:38.42 | chatme | at0m: ok |
| 08:38.49 | at0m | maybe it's nfs-server related |
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| 08:39.07 | at0m | or nfs client, i dont know |
| 08:39.16 | chatme | at0m: y, ... not sure |
| 08:39.46 | at0m | neither logs show anything noteworthy iiuc |
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| 08:43.18 | chatme | at0m: if you do not use boot scrips do it boot normally |
| 08:43.48 | at0m | it does when i #comment the auto mounts or set them to noauto |
| 08:44.02 | at0m | then there's no such delay |
| 08:44.03 | chatme | at0m: hmm |
| 08:44.28 | chatme | ok |
| 08:44.28 | at0m | maybe it's the drives spinning up or so? |
| 08:44.36 | chatme | at0m: no |
| 08:44.50 | at0m | hm that i can easily test if i keep 'em active from another machine |
| 08:44.53 | chatme | at0m: check hosts file on lan clients |
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| 08:46.55 | chatme | at0m: can nfs server ping slow boot computer? |
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| 08:48.02 | chatme | at0m: i don't think that's it |
| 08:48.10 | at0m | brb phone |
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| 08:48.40 | at0m | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:48.50 | bohne | Bushmills: I've rebootet the machine, now memory usage is normal. but all processes use the same amount VIRT/RES as before. Are the some things that are not listed? maybe some drivers/modules? |
| 08:48.57 | chatme | at0m: is firewall running on nfs server? |
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| 08:49.02 | at0m | nope |
| 08:49.56 | chatme | at0m: so disable automount in fstab, then manual mount what result? |
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| 08:50.23 | at0m | then it mounts 'instantly' |
| 08:50.28 | chatme | hmm |
| 08:50.37 | at0m | maybe the client stries to mount before eth0 is up |
| 08:50.40 | at0m | tries |
| 08:50.57 | at0m | chatme> at0m: can nfs server ping slow boot computer |
| 08:51.00 | at0m | will try that |
| 08:51.14 | at0m | pinging while client waits for the mount |
| 08:51.23 | chatme | mt |
| 08:51.30 | chatme | o that u |
| 08:51.37 | chatme | lol |
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| 08:52.42 | chatme | you could be on to something although not familliar |
| 08:52.57 | at0m | [server]:/var/music /var/music nfs user,ro,hard,intr,auto,noatime,nodiratime,timeo=10,udp 0 0 |
| 08:53.03 | at0m | an example of the fstab line |
| 08:53.14 | chatme | ok |
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| 08:53.21 | chatme | try less options? |
| 08:53.40 | at0m | oki will try after the ping |
| 08:53.48 | at0m | moves to the other machine |
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| 08:54.40 | chatme | at0m: nfs mount options are that that many? |
| 08:55.27 | chatme | *there that |
| 08:56.55 | chatme | try user,ro,noatime,udp |
| 08:57.53 | chatme | hth... |
| 08:58.15 | chatme | debian still works |
| 08:58.20 | chatme | here |
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| 08:59.40 | at0m | pinging works while it pauses, so eth0 is up ok |
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| 09:00.16 | armetiz | Hi there, I'm using Rsync on 4000 files with around 40Go.. The building file list process is very long.. |
| 09:00.27 | armetiz | Do you have any clue that I can use to reduce this time ? |
| 09:00.34 | armetiz | It's around 4min generation.. |
| 09:00.35 | at0m | chatme: tty says "Waiting for /var/music...Setting Kernel Variables" |
| 09:01.07 | chatme | at0m: i hth... those fstab options, hmm let me know |
| 09:04.06 | simonrvn | chatme: if you think that's long, you should see the nfs options i've set... |
| 09:04.52 | simonrvn | it wraps to 2 lines on a 132 wide terminal... |
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| 09:06.21 | chatme | simonrvn: yeah, good a NFS expert... |
| 09:06.32 | at0m | simonrvn: nothing wrong w that if it doesnt pause boot for over a minute eh |
| 09:06.55 | simonrvn | at0m: exactly |
| 09:07.12 | simonrvn | chatme: not expert, just like tweaking it so it works flawlessly |
| 09:07.19 | chatme | simonrvn: i have used but not recently |
| 09:08.03 | at0m | chatme: edited fstab to your options, same pause |
| 09:09.13 | at0m | and it mounted =] |
| 09:09.13 | chatme | at0m: hmm |
| 09:09.20 | at0m | 70sec |
| 09:09.30 | chatme | at0m: still../// |
| 09:10.19 | at0m | circumventing the delay by pm-suspend'ing instead of shutdown -h |
| 09:10.33 | chatme | i am not familliar enough w/debian |
| 09:10.48 | at0m | wouldnt mind the delay on production machine, but WAF goes down drastically on her laptop and living room PVR eh |
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| 09:11.01 | at0m | maybe noauto, and mount from script on loging |
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| 09:11.03 | at0m | login |
| 09:11.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | armetiz: copy less files, or buy a faster hdd. can't think of many other options. there is an #rsync though, perhaps they can suggest something |
| 09:11.07 | chatme | would think fs drivers in kernel |
| 09:11.44 | at0m | chatme: hm it's been like that since long, over different kernel upgrades |
| 09:12.03 | at0m | and if it were kernel, everybody here would know the drill of the pause eh |
| 09:12.12 | chatme | hmm |
| 09:12.16 | chatme | not ness |
| 09:12.26 | at0m | different machines here, different nic drivers |
| 09:12.37 | chatme | hm |
| 09:12.51 | chatme | not sure your point |
| 09:13.08 | chatme | 2 Debian boxe |
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| 09:14.11 | simonrvn | at0m: a) use tcp b) increase your wsize and rsize |
| 09:14.19 | huddson | ah, you are back. where have you been for the past few days? |
| 09:14.23 | chatme | yea it sounds like NFS |
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| 09:14.31 | at0m | simonrvn: cheers, will try |
| 09:14.33 | armetiz | Kamping_Kaiser thanks for answer, I'm lookin on #rsync right now |
| 09:14.41 | armetiz | but no body on air |
| 09:14.51 | chatme | however yes i agree evryone would see problem |
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| 09:15.26 | liran | if I'm using this command: watch -n 1 -d cat /proc/hades/cpuload and I want to take 2 values from grep how i do it? |
| 09:15.29 | simonrvn | at0m: some options you might be interested in: wsize=16384,rsize=16384,bg,retry=10,intr,nfsvers=3,proto=tcp,mountproto=tcp,sec=sys |
| 09:15.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | armetiz: may take a while to reply |
| 09:15.33 | liran | I want to see cpu0 and cpu3 |
| 09:16.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | whats /proc/hades/? |
| 09:16.12 | simonrvn | liran: use grep instead of cat? |
| 09:16.24 | liran | Kamping_Kaiser it's an module to shows cpu usage |
| 09:16.28 | at0m | simonrvn: okido |
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| 09:16.38 | liran | simonrvn please show me how |
| 09:16.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | liran: ok. |
| 09:16.46 | at0m | chatme: thanks for your time and suggestions! |
| 09:16.46 | simonrvn | man grep |
| 09:16.47 | liran | I want to see 2 values and not just 1 |
| 09:16.51 | liran | simonrvn plz help |
| 09:17.00 | chatme | simonrvn: vn, i wonder how long nfs will be supported/developed |
| 09:17.05 | simonrvn | then use something like '(foo|bar)' |
| 09:17.13 | huddson | can't get video in google chat. driver for video is listed as "gspca main driver". sound works both ways. what to check for? |
| 09:17.15 | liran | | = OR and not AND |
| 09:17.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | liran: man egrep(theres a hint), and since we don't know the format of that module, we can't tell you how to access it with certainty |
| 09:17.36 | liran | Kamping_Kaiser it's displays cpu's usage |
| 09:17.36 | simonrvn | liran: yes... |
| 09:17.40 | liran | cpu0 - usage |
| 09:17.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | shakes head |
| 09:17.44 | liran | and etc |
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| 09:18.35 | simonrvn | chatme: if you want to talk about this, join #debian-offtopic |
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| 09:18.45 | chatme | uname -a |
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| 09:19.51 | chatme | what is status of sid? |
| 09:19.55 | ov3rmind | nice day |
| 09:19.59 | chatme | kernel? |
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| 09:20.32 | chatme | simonrvn: sry i missed |
| 09:20.38 | chatme | simonrvn: ok |
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| 09:21.31 | andrewnemeth | can I upgrade 32bit to 64bit kernel with aptitude, |
| 09:21.32 | andrewnemeth | ? |
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| 09:21.55 | chatme | at0m: no problem my friend |
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| 09:22.41 | chatme | simonrvn: i missed that... |
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| 09:26.25 | dutchfish | chatme: with what? |
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| 09:26.46 | chatme | nginx |
| 09:26.58 | chatme | dutchfish: ^^ |
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| 09:29.05 | chatme | is there some trick to using php w/it? |
| 09:29.48 | liran | well |
| 09:29.48 | simonrvn | yup, try rtfm ;). probably fast cgi... |
| 09:29.51 | liran | thanks for the help |
| 09:29.58 | liran | regular expression did the job |
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| 09:31.05 | simonrvn | np |
| 09:31.53 | at0m | simonrvn: nfs mount options don't influence the delay |
| 09:32.14 | at0m | will set noauto, then script in a mount later |
| 09:32.30 | at0m | so at least it doesnt interrupt the boot so long |
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| 09:34.46 | simonrvn | yeh. could be some rpc issue, or "firewall"... try running nfsd on a static port or one of the rpc daemons, and filter unwanted traffic if it's publicly available. |
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| 09:35.44 | kevman | Hey ppl, I installed red5 with this guide, since apt just did nothing but bogus, http://www.red5server.org/content_red5installdebian_500005 However, I cant reach http://ip.adr.srv:5080 or can't connect through the rtmp application I want it to run. As far as I know, all important ports are open, all other sites on the server work like a charm. Server is a Debian Lenny Please help |
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| 09:42.31 | joltcan | kevman: netstat -anp| grep 5080 and see if it is even running |
| 09:42.56 | gr0gmint | Hi, im trying to debootstrap a Debian stable installation to a chroot environment... but it doesn't install necesarry packages like apt, even thought it fetches the .deb ... ??? |
| 09:43.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | how did you determine that? |
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| 09:44.23 | remoteCTRL | can you pls point me the way to a documentation of the parameters in /etc/pam.d/common-password, i can't seem to find any...? |
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| 09:44.49 | kevman | joltcan, netstat says nothing, however I iptabled 5080 before, and according to red5.sh, red5 runs |
| 09:45.01 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: me? |
| 09:45.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: yes |
| 09:45.42 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: how did i determine that it didn't install apt? |
| 09:46.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: man 5 pam.conf got the details you ant? |
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| 09:46.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: yes |
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| 09:47.49 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: theres no apt binaries anywhere, ldconfig and other needed apps are also missing... but the .deb files are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ , but i cant install them without ldconfig etc.... |
| 09:48.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: how did you build your chroot? |
| 09:48.15 | kevman | joltcan, red5 is currently in /usr/local/red5, just out of curiosity, is it supposed to be in there? Does it have to be in a different folder? |
| 09:48.44 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: various guides, including this http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 09:49.03 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: various guides? what command did you run to build it? |
| 09:49.29 | gr0gmint | sudo ./debootstrap --arch i386 stable /var/chroot/stable http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian |
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| 09:49.47 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: and i tried with --variant buildd too |
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| 09:50.57 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: what does 'ls /var/chroot/stable/usr/bin/apt-get' |
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| 09:51.41 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: No such file |
| 09:52.03 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: were there any errors during the bootstrap process? |
| 09:52.08 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: im gonna try with cdebootstrap |
| 09:52.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: also, why ./debootstrap? do you have a custom version? |
| 09:52.19 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: yeah |
| 09:52.30 | andrewnemeth | guys |
| 09:52.32 | andrewnemeth | echo "savedefault --default=2 --once" | grub --batch |
| 09:52.33 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: yes, i've modified it a bit |
| 09:52.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | what error? |
| 09:52.40 | andrewnemeth | and its still booting into the 0 kernel |
| 09:52.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: ah |
| 09:52.41 | andrewnemeth | why? |
| 09:52.50 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: first an error about devices.tar.gz, next chroot not found |
| 09:52.57 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: im running a modified chroot binary too |
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| 09:53.16 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: i guess second stage needs chroot? :/ |
| 09:54.04 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: any idea?:p |
| 09:54.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: not sure offhand. set -ex in debootstrap to debug it |
| 09:54.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: or pastebin the errors you got somewhere and we can look |
| 09:54.34 | andrewnemeth | ah |
| 09:54.36 | andrewnemeth | nothing |
| 09:54.40 | andrewnemeth | found the issue |
| 09:55.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: what was it? |
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| 09:55.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: out of interest, why are you modifying debootstrap? |
| 09:55.34 | andrewnemeth | I left a boot entry with default 0 |
| 09:55.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | ah, hehe |
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| 09:56.21 | remoteCTRL | Kamping_Kaiser: this opne contains information on what the single files are, etc, unfortunately no documentation on max= maxlen=, etc, need to alter these pwd complexity check criteria urgently... |
| 09:56.22 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: im only modyfying one variable because the debootstrap installation lies in another folder than /usr/share |
| 09:56.35 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: and i dont want to set an env variable every time |
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| 09:57.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: i haven't toiuched pad for ages, so i can't offer you any good help sorry |
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| 09:57.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: iirc pam has a separate docs package, perhaps install that |
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| 09:57.59 | remoteCTRL | it does? |
| 09:58.16 | remoteCTRL | Kamping_Kaiser: if so that could be helpful, thanks alot so far! |
| 09:58.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: right |
| 09:58.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: try libpam-doc |
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| 09:59.05 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: http://pastebin.com/6WNUaRAb |
| 09:59.16 | Vasistha | So, once again, my clock has not updated for daylight savings time ending :-( I've got ntpdate running... do I need to reboot or something? |
| 09:59.18 | remoteCTRL | Kamping_Kaiser: already on it thanks! |
| 09:59.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: is your tzdata package up todate? |
| 09:59.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: :) |
| 09:59.56 | Vasistha | Kamping_Kaiser: it certainly ought to be, I update my lenny system a couple times a week |
| 10:00.15 | remoteCTRL | Kamping_Kaiser: do you happen to know how to fuind what i just installed? :D |
| 10:01.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: generically `dpkg -L <packagname>`, but docs are always in /usr/share/doc/<packagename> on debian too |
| 10:01.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: check the bts, there may be otehr reports |
| 10:01.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | *other |
| 10:01.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: wonder if those packages failed to install for some reason |
| 10:01.57 | remoteCTRL | Kamping_Kaiser: nothing specific there... |
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| 10:03.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: have a quick grep, i don't have the docs installed to check on |
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| 10:05.34 | Vasistha | erm, shit. ntpdc -l says "***Server reports data not found" |
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| 10:06.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: even with ntp the system should change for dst. |
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| 10:08.07 | themill | Vasistha: perhaps you could pastebin the output of: md5sum /etc/localtime /usr/share/zoneinfo/`cat /etc/timezone`; date; date -u |
| 10:08.41 | remoteCTRL | Kamping_Kaiser: you were of great assistance, thanks once more! :) |
| 10:08.41 | andrewnemeth | hm can I run 32bit os under 64bit kernel? |
| 10:09.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: have you worked it out? |
| 10:09.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: and glad to help |
| 10:09.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: 'under' or 'on'? ;) |
| 10:09.30 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: I need your help lol do you know debootstrap? |
| 10:09.31 | kevman | under vm, I guess andrewnemeth |
| 10:09.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: yes, you can have a 32bit userland on a 64bit kernel |
| 10:09.33 | Vasistha | themill: http://paste.debian.net/99284/ |
| 10:09.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: to an extent |
| 10:09.46 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: hm |
| 10:09.51 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: there was no ldconfig binary etc, i think thats why |
| 10:10.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: yeah. why it was missing is what interestes me though |
| 10:10.44 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: so my problem is that if I have a debian os with 32bit kernel and I want to install debian 64bit onto seperate partition using debootstrap it giving me error |
| 10:11.13 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: due to the version of bash file which is 32bit and I want to use for 64bit |
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| 10:11.30 | themill | Vasistha: your UTC time is 1 hour out. I suspect that you have previously fudged things to get the time right and have actually created the problem then |
| 10:11.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: thats trying to run a 64bit userland on a 32bit kernel |
| 10:11.40 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: so I thought I upgrade the base system to 64bit and then debootstrap wont giving me an error |
| 10:11.43 | remoteCTRL | Kamping_Kaiser: well i found the documentation where the mi and minlen parameters are described but not max and maxlen, i guess they are just undocumented ... |
| 10:11.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: you can't do a stage2 bootstrap, man page has some other details |
| 10:12.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | remoteCTRL: i'd be supprised if they're undocumented, but i can't think of many other places to look |
| 10:12.23 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: so that would work? upgrade base system kernel to 64bit and then run debootstrap to install 64bit debian to the new partition? |
| 10:12.36 | themill | Vasistha: Your time offset to UTC looks correct though. So simply setting the correct UTC time should be correct. |
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| 10:12.53 | Vasistha | themill: yeah ... my fan died, and I extracted the hard drive and booted it on another computer that was storing the local time instead of UTC. I struggled for hours before executing 'date -s' |
| 10:12.56 | remoteCTRL | Kamping_Kaiser: well the pam_unix section is the place to lokk unfortunately its not in there... :-/ |
| 10:13.11 | kevman | joltcan, would you mind, if I pm you? |
| 10:13.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: hm.... if i understand yo, that would work in theory. not sure hwo it woudl go in practice |
| 10:13.41 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: any better idea?:) |
| 10:13.48 | joltcan | kevman: I wouldn't mind, but I'm working, so I have very little time to answer questions for the coming 6h or so |
| 10:13.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 10:14.00 | Vasistha | themill: and then when I got the fan fixed, I again was completely unable to get the thing to correct itself. I can use 'date -s' but ... man, I sure wish I could get the thing to just work on its own. |
| 10:14.29 | themill | Vasistha: uninstall ntpdate and install ntp, presuming this machine has an internet connection. |
| 10:14.37 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: trying to reinstall the system with a fresh debian |
| 10:14.42 | kevman | i'll get back to you later then |
| 10:14.53 | Vasistha | themill: I misspoke when I said ntpdate; I actually have ntp |
| 10:15.03 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: but the old system can be either 32bit or 64bit with 32 or 64bit kernel |
| 10:15.07 | Vasistha | themill: maybe a dpkg-reconfigure on ntp? |
| 10:15.12 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: so thats the problem |
| 10:15.19 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: okay, now something interesting is happening |
| 10:15.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: why not backup and reinstall? |
| 10:15.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: s/?/properly? |
| 10:15.37 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: sbin needed to be in path -_- |
| 10:15.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: sounds right hehe |
| 10:15.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | gr0gmint: good catch |
| 10:15.54 | gr0gmint | Kamping_Kaiser: yaaaaaaaaay |
| 10:16.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | :) |
| 10:16.19 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: thats not so easy. its going to be an automatic os reinstallation syste for dedicated servers |
| 10:16.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: so put teh data on a separate partion to the os and it doesn't matter when you blow it away |
| 10:16.39 | themill | Vasistha: "invoke-rc.d ntp restart" see what ntp has to say for itself in /var/log/daemon.log |
| 10:17.35 | andrewnemeth | Kamping_Kaiser: as I said debootstrap giving me error when it tries to install a 64bit debian onto the seperate partition while the old system is 32bit one (and the kernel) |
| 10:17.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: if hosting you should be putting them in vms, not chroots |
| 10:18.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: that aside, you can't go past stage2 debootstrap - check man page |
| 10:18.17 | Vasistha | themill: ooh, I am fixed. Thanks a bunch. So maybe all it needed was an ntp restart. |
| 10:18.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | iirc ther eis a cross arch section |
| 10:18.27 | andrewnemeth | hm |
| 10:18.29 | Vasistha | dovecot doesn't like it when the time changes... heh |
| 10:19.16 | lord_rob | wow sid seems "frozen" too, smells the squeeze release :p |
| 10:19.19 | andrewnemeth | so Kamping_Kaiser: installing linux-image-amd64 onto the old system replacing linux-image-i386 wont work? |
| 10:19.22 | Bushmills | Vasistha: it may make sense to stop ntp, then set time using ntpdate -b ..., before restarting ntp again |
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| 10:19.29 | themill | Vasistha: a lot of things don't like time warps... restarting ntp shouldn't be needed unless it's somehow got confused with plugs/unplugs of devices (it does that on my laptop after a few suspends) |
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| 10:19.38 | themill | dpkg: tell lord_rob about slushy |
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| 10:20.02 | Vasistha | themill: ah, I have had a lot of suspends |
| 10:20.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | andrewnemeth: i haven't tried, can't tell you how that works sorry |
| 10:21.10 | huddson | Help. Get "Can't locate Dpkg.pm in @INC" during Build stage of module-assistant. |
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| 10:22.04 | CaT[t3] | anyone know of a util thatll allow me to copy the mp3s on my ipod off of it? gtkpod be crashing on me 8( |
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| 10:22.59 | lord_rob | thanks themill didn't know the reason of that fact |
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| 10:25.27 | lord_rob | CaT[t3]: ipod is non-free :( |
| 10:26.30 | lord_rob | I did buy an androïd based phone for one of those reasons |
| 10:26.32 | CaT[t3] | with rockbox it's as free as it gets/ |
| 10:26.35 | CaT[t3] | with rockbox it's as free as it gets. |
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| 10:26.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | if its running rockbox why do you need gtkpod |
| 10:27.08 | CaT[t3] | anyway. i have one. it's old enough to be used with oss utils. just need help finding a util to rip the mp3s off it |
| 10:27.19 | CaT[t3] | kamping: cos the songs are in the itunes db |
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| 10:27.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | um ok? *assumes that means they're owend* |
| 10:27.52 | CaT[t3] | if I could sync the itunes db metadata with the id3 tags i could easily copy the stuff off it. |
| 10:28.07 | CaT[t3] | yes, yes they are. |
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| 10:30.16 | Vasistha | thanks very much for your help, Kamping_Kaiser, themill, Bushmills |
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| 10:31.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: np |
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| 10:38.44 | blackshirt | anybody here... |
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| 10:39.21 | petemc | nobody but us chickens |
| 10:40.25 | Bushmills | 716 bots and one blackshirt |
| 10:40.48 | dutchfish | hi, when i use simple-cdd it creates an image fine, however |
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| 10:41.19 | dutchfish | firmware-free debs and kernel header debs are missing |
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| 10:41.32 | dutchfish | inclusing the link dir for the firmware |
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| 10:41.40 | dutchfish | how to resolve? |
| 10:41.53 | dutchfish | squeeze/x86_64 |
| 10:41.53 | blackshirt | Bushmills: wow, all here a bots ? |
| 10:42.59 | Bushmills | yes. would be unbearable here otherwise |
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| 10:45.35 | dutchfish | to be more precise /pool/main/l/linux-2.6/firmware-linux-free_2.6.32-26_all.deb and /firmware/@link-to-pool-for firmware |
| 10:47.25 | blackshirt | dutchfish: i no have experience with this, maybe Bushmills can help .. |
| 10:48.32 | dutchfish | blackshirt: dont refer others, if you have an answer then you are welcome. please. |
| 10:48.52 | andrewnemeth | erm |
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| 10:48.58 | andrewnemeth | apt-get -y or apt-get --y? |
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| 10:52.05 | huddson | Help. Get "Can't locate Dpkg.pm in @INC" during Build stage of module-assistant. |
| 10:52.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | huddson: install it. |
| 10:52.29 | blackshirt | dutchfish: okey... |
| 10:52.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | *installed |
| 10:53.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | huddson: pastebin your full error, somoene might be able to help you |
| 10:53.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: using debian-cd? i'd try #debian-cd on oftc, but it can be pretty quiet |
| 10:53.55 | Bushmills | huddson: aptitude install libdpkg-perl |
| 10:53.56 | blackshirt | andrewnemeth: apt-get -y install |
| 10:54.04 | andrewnemeth | ty |
| 10:54.16 | huddson | Bushmills: thks, will try that. |
| 10:55.03 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks |
| 10:55.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: np,, good luck with it |
| 10:55.41 | Bushmills | huddson: alternatively, if more is missing, aptitude install build-essential |
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| 10:56.51 | zu22 | running testing, weird issue, cgi-bin scripts work when i specify my IP but not my hostname, i'm using name based virtual hosts (which work) so i have several domains, so http://97.107.134.151/cgi-bin/awstats.pl works but http://www.oggthebase.org/cgi-bin/awstats.pl doesn't. Any ideas? |
| 10:58.16 | huddson | Bushmills: thks, actually it is now missing Date/Parse.pm. Hope build-essential is all that is needed |
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| 10:58.30 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser: thank you again |
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| 10:58.46 | liran | how can i make this command: top |egrep "Cpu1|Cpu3" re-write the values and not displaying it in many lines ? |
| 10:58.49 | Bushmills | zu22: typo in host name, forgot to a2ensite, forgot to reload apache config (assuming apache is used) |
| 10:58.51 | EugenMayer | 0 0 * * 0 /root/files_backup_cron <- that means every sunday, right ( 0:00 ) |
| 10:59.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | liran: why are you accessing top soutput not proc? |
| 10:59.18 | zu22 | Bushmills: no typo, use a2ensite, reloaded, this is baffling |
| 10:59.24 | zu22 | s/use/used |
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| 10:59.42 | liran | Kamping_Kaiser you have another way? |
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| 11:00.12 | zu22 | Bushmills: i've tried with every domain i have and it won't work but it only works when I specify IP address |
| 11:00.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | liran: grep the stats out of proc. (as suggested before) |
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| 11:00.36 | Bushmills | zu22: that means, that's the default site |
| 11:00.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | zu22: got the correct cgi blocks in your vhosts? |
| 11:00.52 | huddson | Bushmills: build-essential is already the newest. where to get Date/Parse.pm? |
| 11:00.55 | liran | Kamping_Kaiser can you remaind me? I have no idea how to take the usage stats from the proc |
| 11:01.19 | Bushmills | (i.e. no VirtualServer file applies) |
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| 11:01.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | no, i'm off to bed. hopefully osmoene else is feeling like giving you a charitable spoonfeeding though |
| 11:01.57 | liran | k, get lost |
| 11:02.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | between here and the bed? unlikely : |
| 11:02.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | :) |
| 11:02.24 | liran | fag. |
| 11:02.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | :) |
| 11:02.31 | Bushmills | huddson: libtimedate-perl |
| 11:02.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | anyone would think its saturday |
| 11:03.04 | zu22 | Kamping_Kaiser: I need to add cgi block for each vhost? Here is one of my /etc/apache2/sites-available vhost files: http://pastebin.com/U11hkBt3 |
| 11:03.14 | zu22 | Bushmills: ok |
| 11:03.37 | huddson | Bushmills: its already the newest. |
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| 11:04.50 | zu22 | Kamping_Kaiser: does that file look good? if not what must i add to it |
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| 11:05.58 | dutchfish | xyan: http://pastebin.com/wYMZS7ea |
| 11:07.02 | zu22 | ? |
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| 11:07.22 | dutchfish | sorry for the noise, that was ment for another channel |
| 11:07.30 | Bushmills | zu22: if you reach that server by specifying the ip address, that indicates that the virtual server file (containing ServerName and ServerAlias) is not used. |
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| 11:07.46 | zu22 | Kamping_Kaiser: I don't want special local cgi-bin directories for each vhost, I just want to be able to access the /usr/lib/cgi-bin by specifying domain name, it works with IP but not if i specify domain name |
| 11:07.46 | Bushmills | check access logs, see where hits go to |
| 11:08.13 | zu22 | Bushmills: ok |
| 11:08.56 | zu22 | Bushmills: [Mon Nov 08 10:56:52 2010] [error] [client 72.0.209.165] File does not exist: /var/www/oggthebase.org/cgi-bin |
| 11:09.19 | zu22 | Bushmills: i want "www.oggthebase.org/cgi-bin/" to go to /usr/lib/cgi-bin, not /var/www/oggthebase.org/cgi-bin, how can i do that? |
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| 11:10.03 | Bushmills | with "where hits go to" i mean whether they go do default or to oggthebase - as they log to different log files, they can tell which one catches requests |
| 11:10.04 | dutchfish | what about VirtualScriptAlias /www/hosts/%0/cgi-bin |
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| 11:10.59 | dutchfish | see also: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/mass.html |
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| 11:11.21 | zu22 | Bushmills: they are going to oggthebase, how do i force them to go to default so it uses /usr/lib/cgi-bin? |
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| 11:11.48 | zu22 | dutchfish: i don't want local cgi-bin, i want oggthebase.org/cgi-bin to use /usr/lib/cgi-bin |
| 11:11.51 | disposable | i'm trying to create an ipset kernel module from ipset-source. module-assistant does not know about it, so i have to do it manually. after unpacking the tarbz in /usr/src, when i run the "./debian/rules build", i only get "make: *** No rule to make target `build'. Stop." WTF? |
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| 11:12.59 | dutchfish | zu22: the %0 param can be used in any path within VirtualScriptAlias ... |
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| 11:13.21 | disposable | s/WTF/what am i doing wrong |
| 11:14.01 | zu22 | dutchfish: so where would I put that? |
| 11:14.11 | Bushmills | zu22: by fixing your apache virtualhost file |
| 11:14.14 | zu22 | dutchfish: in each vhost file? |
| 11:14.23 | dutchfish | zu22: think again |
| 11:14.30 | zu22 | Bushmills: yes but how |
| 11:15.10 | Bushmills | ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ .... |
| 11:15.20 | zu22 | dutchfish: i don't understand what that does, i don't want a local cgi-bin in each /www/host, i want any request for cgi-bin to go to /usr/lib/cgi-bin |
| 11:15.20 | dutchfish | zu22: or better reread the link i gave carefully |
| 11:15.38 | zu22 | Bushmills: and i add that to each of my vhost files yes? |
| 11:15.39 | zu22 | dutchfish: ok |
| 11:15.45 | dutchfish | zu22: yes, i understood your question |
| 11:15.54 | dutchfish | zu22: good luck |
| 11:16.15 | Bushmills | no. just to those which don't access the right cgi directory |
| 11:16.19 | mne | Hi. On my desktop system in a daily cron job I do backups on a LUKS/dmcrypt encrypted disk. Unfortunately this makes the system unresponsive as the system is constantly waiting for kcryptd. I found suggestions, that kcryptd, pdflush, etc. can be set to lower IO or CPU priorities with iorenice/renice. Do you guys have any practical experience with these settings ? What is the best setting to avoid the system getting unresponsive when accessing encrypted disks ? |
| 11:16.29 | dutchfish | Bushmills: right |
| 11:16.51 | Bushmills | hehe |
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| 11:23.01 | jargon- | can someone help with this ffmpeg flv-->ogv conversion error? http://dpaste.com/272279/ |
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| 11:28.38 | zu22 | ugh, nothing works, first i tried adding to my vhost "ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/oggthebase.org" and that did nothing, then i tried "VirtualScriptAlias /var/www/oggthebase.org/%0/cgi-bin" and it complained that VirtualScriptAlias is an invalid command, then i tried as a different method to add "ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/oggthebase.org" to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and that didn't work |
| 11:29.39 | Bushmills | zu22: #httpd |
| 11:29.52 | zu22 | ok |
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| 11:50.12 | redguy | hey, is batch-insert enabled in bacula in lenny? |
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| 11:59.39 | abrotman | at the park |
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| 12:00.34 | abrotman | baseball! |
| 12:01.43 | redguy | isn't it to cold for baseball ? |
| 12:01.56 | redguy | hockey perhaps |
| 12:03.23 | redguy | well, they wouldn't know if batch insert is enabled in lenny's bacula-director-mysql anyway... |
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| 12:06.13 | blahdeblah | Hi all. When using git with etckeeper, is it safe to run 'etckeeper init' multiple times? |
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| 12:13.45 | dutchfish | blahdeblah: it recreates the db under .git, this also deletes your history in a git fashion, mind you that git has no way to coop with file permissions and .git needs to be kept safe because it contains copy's of shadow and passwd files. etckeeper init will delete the history of them too, defeating the purpose of its use. |
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| 12:14.37 | blahdeblah | dutchfish: So it won't detect that .git is already there and not touch it? |
| 12:14.39 | juniorsa | Hi, what is the most recent stable kernel for lenny? |
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| 12:15.05 | dutchfish | blahdeblah: etckeeper init does what it is supposed to do. |
| 12:15.31 | blahdeblah | dutchfish: I'll take that as a "No" :-) |
| 12:15.59 | dutchfish | blahdeblah: right. unless you are a keen admin, and make backups that inlcude .git. |
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| 12:16.19 | blahdeblah | Of course, but i don't want to have to use them. ;-) |
| 12:16.29 | dutchfish | blahdeblah: needless to say that the backup must reside in a safe place too. |
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| 12:16.51 | blahdeblah | juniorsa: see here http://packages.debian.org/lenny/linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 12:17.09 | blahdeblah | juniorsa: substitute -686 for your relevant architecture |
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| 12:17.51 | juniorsa | blahdeblah: is this stable? I am running amd64 and I always run aptitude update and aptitude safe-upgrade but my kernel is 2.6.18-6-amd64, I'm not sure what I am doing wrong |
| 12:18.02 | abrotman | juniorsa: 2.6.26-2-<yourarch> |
| 12:18.13 | blahdeblah | juniorsa: yes, it's definitely stable - mine uses that. |
| 12:18.17 | abrotman | juniorsa: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 12:18.33 | abrotman | blahdeblah: that is not stable, that's from etch, not lenny |
| 12:18.46 | abrotman | nevermind .. too many lines, too many numbers |
| 12:18.51 | abrotman | juniorsa: install the metapackage |
| 12:18.58 | blahdeblah | abrotman: I meant the one I posted, not the one juniorsa posted... |
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| 12:19.03 | juniorsa | abrotman: oh how do I do that? |
| 12:19.13 | blahdeblah | He just showed you above |
| 12:19.17 | abrotman | juniorsa: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 12:19.25 | juniorsa | abrotman: ok I will try thanks |
| 12:20.19 | blahdeblah | thanks dutchfish - i'll get my code to test for /etc/.git before running etckeeper init |
| 12:20.31 | juniorsa | abrotman: I guess I should always use that type of package, I am not sure what I did to get the other one installed |
| 12:21.10 | dutchfish | blahdeblah: also read about pre-commit with etckeeper |
| 12:21.53 | dutchfish | blahdeblah: and it wa snot /etc/.git but /etc/.etckeeper as the .git dir |
| 12:22.24 | blahdeblah | dutchfish: "was not"? - seems to be /etc/.git on my system |
| 12:22.37 | dutchfish | s/wa snot/was not |
| 12:22.45 | dutchfish | a typo, sorry |
| 12:23.29 | blahdeblah | What i meant was "WAS not"? What is the significance of the past tense? It has been /etc/.git on all the systems i've used it on. |
| 12:24.06 | dutchfish | blahdeblah: oops yes, /etc/.git, i was mixing up with another version control system |
| 12:24.16 | blahdeblah | ok |
| 12:24.42 | blahdeblah | thanks for the assistance, dutchfish |
| 12:24.47 | dutchfish | yw |
| 12:24.53 | blahdeblah | is off to bed - night folks |
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| 12:28.49 | juniorsa | so I have installed the new kernel, my motherboard uses the r8169 and ethtool show eth1 connected, ifconfig shows it up but when I ping the gateway I get "Destination Host Unreachable" any ideas? |
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| 12:35.24 | juniorsa | any suggestions on getting my r8169 adapter working under 2.6-amd64 |
| 12:36.21 | redguy | does anyone know if batch insert is enabled in lenny's bacula-director-mysql ? |
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| 12:36.35 | redguy | or has a suggestion how to check if it is enabled? |
| 12:36.37 | Bushmills | juniorsa: not an adapter problem. fix your route |
| 12:36.47 | abrotman | juniorsa: is eth1 the configured interface? |
| 12:36.58 | abrotman | redguy: couldn't you have tried it by now? |
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| 12:37.33 | juniorsa | abrotman: oh I rebooted and all is good, sorry to bother, thanks for your help abrotman |
| 12:37.36 | redguy | abrotman: I dont know what to try. |
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| 12:40.08 | redguy | I found the buildd log of bacula |
| 12:40.40 | redguy | and it seems that it's enabled in ./configure. So I can assume that my package has been built the same way? |
| 12:41.17 | redguy | by "my package" i mean the package I installed from a debian mirror |
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| 12:45.29 | b52 | hey, any idea where i can find an nginx package build with the uwsgi module? |
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| 12:50.10 | bartjol | howdy, during a kernel upgrade by "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.29-xs5.5.0.17" I get an error: |
| 12:50.10 | bartjol | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.10 | bartjol | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.10 | bartjol | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:51.06 | bartjol | sorry about that |
| 12:51.39 | silverballz | it sounds like your missing the source or header files but im not sure |
| 12:51.42 | silverballz | bartjol, |
| 12:51.54 | bartjol | well, I did install linux-headers (the new version) |
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| 12:52.54 | silverballz | try the source package also and see if that may fix it. Hopefully someone will wake up who knows the answer ;) |
| 12:53.12 | bartjol | I did mis the linux-headers-2.6-xen headers |
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| 12:53.47 | bartjol | nope, same errors |
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| 12:54.19 | silverballz | well now you're missing the symbolic link if you deleted it. |
| 12:54.36 | bartjol | mmm |
| 12:55.19 | silverballz | its looking for the source/headers in /lib/modules/2.x.x.x.x.x./build follow the paths and fill in the blanks. |
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| 12:59.44 | bartjol | check, missing linux-source-2.6.29-xs5.5.0.17 |
| 13:00.05 | bartjol | still have wait to dee whether it works btw |
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| 13:17.44 | mrothe | How do I list all packages that one specific package is a dependency of. Like "A depends on B" and I want to find all As that depend on B. |
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| 13:19.59 | kevman | Hey ppl, I installed red5 via apt-get, However, I can reach http://ip.adr.srv:5080 but can't connect through the rtmp application I want it to run. As far as I know, all important ports are open, all other sites on the server work like a charm. Server is a Debian Lenny Please help |
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| 13:21.14 | CissWit | mrothe: aptitude search ~Ddepends:package |
| 13:21.20 | mrothe | CissWit: thanks |
| 13:21.52 | andrewnemeth | Setting up dhcp3-client (3.0.6.dfsg-1ubuntu9.1) ... |
| 13:21.53 | andrewnemeth | chage: Permission denied. |
| 13:21.53 | andrewnemeth | Stopped: `/usr/bin/chage -M 99999 dhcp' returned error code 1. Exiting. |
| 13:21.57 | andrewnemeth | any idea? |
| 13:22.01 | andrewnemeth | sorry for paste |
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| 13:22.57 | CissWit | mrothe: for others search terms look at http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html |
| 13:23.03 | themill | andrewnemeth: #ubuntu might know. |
| 13:23.14 | andrewnemeth | yeah |
| 13:23.16 | andrewnemeth | lets try |
| 13:23.34 | shifty | running unstable, what's the magic command to purge KDE? |
| 13:24.16 | themill | shifty: /msg dpkg remove kde |
| 13:24.28 | shifty | themill: thank you |
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| 13:26.53 | themill | shifty: you may need to add "libkdecore5" to that list by the looks of it |
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| 13:29.04 | shifty | themill: double thanks. there are going to be some failed dependancies, but I'll klean (:-) them up in a second pass. |
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| 13:30.58 | themill | shifty: adding "~nkde" to the list will probably help too... depends what level of scrubbing you want to do. |
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| 13:33.27 | mrothe | CissWit: Thanks. This helps, but is not showing up exactly what I want to figure out. The reason seems to be that I'm looking for 'reverse-dependencies' of a -dev package. Maybe another hint? |
| 13:33.44 | shifty | themill: whoa, not that level! I'm happy with the two pass approach - first pass removes most of the auto-deps and the second I can check individually. |
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| 13:34.22 | mrothe | CissWit: I.e. there are no packages depending on this -dev package. |
| 13:34.58 | mrothe | CissWit: mhh.. on another thought: maybe there is just no package depending on this -dev package? |
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| 13:37.38 | silverballz | lol @ themill |
| 13:38.06 | silverballz | referring people to the other side? |
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| 13:40.05 | shifty | themill: '~n^kde' is slightly improved. '~nkde' would have collected liblockdev1 :-) |
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| 13:40.26 | themill | shifty: heh... that would be an unfortunate match |
| 13:40.39 | shifty | with /dpkg help and your libkdecore5, only 6 files ^kde left to purge. thanks. |
| 13:40.48 | themill | silverballz: I'm a very happy KDE user. |
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| 13:41.47 | silverballz | themill, no i meant ubuntu and they guy who needed to read up on sudo |
| 13:42.10 | silverballz | i know its a bit earily but i thought it was funny. |
| 13:42.49 | shifty | silverballz: you ever heard of the Jesuits? Greatest creators of atheists in the world. |
| 13:43.40 | themill | silverballz: ahh... it's either a borked package or a borked chroot he's created. In either case, it's for #ubuntu not #debian. |
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| 13:44.02 | silverballz | shifty, im sorry bro I have strong beliefs on the other side of that non related conversation as well. |
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| 13:45.45 | shifty | silverballz: comparison only - themill uses KDE but is knows the way out. doesn't mean he agrees with it. I really don't want to go off-topic. |
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| 13:48.03 | silverballz | shifty, yes I shall focus on topic, its to soon for me to get kicked out of here ;) |
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| 13:49.20 | silverballz | themill, now that you pointed out the details to me I'm wondering if he is trying to install ubuntu packages in a debian environment. |
| 13:49.45 | themill | debootstrapped chroot by the sounds of it. |
| 13:50.18 | Diytto | What is a bootstrap |
| 13:50.26 | themill | !debootstrap |
| 13:50.27 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 13:52.00 | Diytto | Oh ok |
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| 14:07.27 | blackshirt | hello anybody here has experiences with setup gmailfs ?? |
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| 14:13.38 | pr0mised | please! i need from help! http://pastebin.com/Lj6yV1T1 |
| 14:13.58 | JPT | mhh |
| 14:15.00 | xyan | pr0mised: use disk labels or uuid instead |
| 14:15.39 | xyan | use blkid and mount with LABEL=xyz / UUID=blabla |
| 14:15.51 | cryptr | ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
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| 14:16.18 | pr0mised | xyan: this is the problem, i don't how to use this... |
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| 14:16.30 | xyan | blkid /dev/sd??? |
| 14:16.37 | pr0mised | xyan, in really i know use this ls -alh /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 14:16.37 | xyan | mount LABEL=xyz /wherever |
| 14:16.41 | xyan | mount UUID=abcbdbbdsa /wherever |
| 14:16.47 | xyan | pr0mised: lol |
| 14:16.53 | pr0mised | xyan, but how i'll use it on my script? |
| 14:16.55 | xyan | try it, read man mount do whatever |
| 14:17.03 | xyan | pr0mised: i told you ^^ |
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| 14:18.05 | cryptr | pr0mised: ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/ notice your /dev/hd[bcdefg]1 |
| 14:18.35 | cryptr | pr0mised: replace your scrupts /dev/hdd with the UUID or /dev/disk/by-uuid/NUMBER |
| 14:19.01 | pr0mised | cryptr: ok, i'll try. |
| 14:19.23 | blackshirt | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.46 | cryptr | pr0mised: or as xyan told you mount -U <uuid> <mountpoint> |
| 14:19.54 | abrotman | blackshirt: ask your real question |
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| 14:20.33 | blackshirt | abrotman: i have a problem with my setup |
| 14:20.40 | abrotman | not a real question either |
| 14:21.07 | dutchfish | xyan: did it work out? |
| 14:21.48 | Bartzy | How much files in one folder are considered OK ? |
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| 14:22.17 | pr0mised | cryptr and xyan: thaks! its work! mount -U <uuid> <mountpoint> |
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| 14:24.16 | abrotman | Bartzy: depends on the filesystem IIRC |
| 14:25.16 | Bartzy | abrotman: OK, lets say ext3 ? |
| 14:25.36 | abrotman | let's say wikipedia? :) |
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| 14:26.32 | Arrowmaster | if you ever actually hit the limit you are probably doing something wrong |
| 14:26.58 | abrotman | Bartzy: IIRC, on a 32-bit system, it's about 32k files .. I might be mistaken |
| 14:26.59 | Bartzy | You didn't get my question |
| 14:27.10 | Bartzy | I don't want to know the maximum number of files in one folder |
| 14:27.26 | Bartzy | I want to know how much files can I put in one directory without losing performance ? |
| 14:27.46 | Bartzy | Because with many files in the same directory, when searching for a specific file, it will take longer.. |
| 14:27.53 | abrotman | i just answered you |
| 14:27.53 | xyan | Bartzy: dont put any and it performs best! |
| 14:27.56 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 14:28.18 | abrotman | Bartzy: guess you have some benchmarking to do |
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| 14:28.55 | Rienzilla | chances are slim that there is one number below which performance will be excellent, and above it it will be shit :) |
| 14:30.07 | cryptr | if your filebrowser or ls crashes in your dir then you are above the limit |
| 14:33.12 | Rienzilla | or you found a bug in ls :) |
| 14:33.37 | cryptr | true |
| 14:33.52 | cryptr | filebrowswer a bad test, they can crash anyway |
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| 14:34.55 | remoteCTRL | how do i make a wireless accesspoint out of my laptop? |
| 14:35.06 | cryptr | 10k files are ok |
| 14:35.12 | cryptr | atleast from my simple test :) |
| 14:35.22 | cryptr | remoteCTRL: not all wifi cards can be ap |
| 14:35.45 | cryptr | remoteCTRL: but a quick google for iwconfig mode ap might give you something |
| 14:35.59 | cryptr | remoteCTRL: mine does not support it so i have never tested it. |
| 14:36.30 | remoteCTRL | cryptr: that would be an explanation why mode ap don't work... |
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| 14:36.43 | remoteCTRL | do you happen to have a clue how to find out if the card can do it? |
| 14:37.18 | cryptr | mm not really, my guess would be that most lp's dont and some pci/pci-e card will |
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| 14:37.53 | cryptr | 25k files in one dir is totally doable, do i need to go further? |
| 14:37.55 | remoteCTRL | hehehe darn |
| 14:38.32 | cryptr | bash is stealing 48% cpu creating them... |
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| 14:38.43 | bint | hey there.. i can nearly do everything with sudo but i can't change into a dir where i dont have permissions by default |
| 14:38.53 | remoteCTRL | cryptr: k, thanks |
| 14:39.08 | xyan | remoteCTRL: just look at the description of hostapd and you will notice that prism and atheros 521x chipsets are supported |
| 14:39.33 | cryptr | bint: once you cd you cant stay there anyway |
| 14:39.42 | cryptr | bint can you do sudo ls /<dir> |
| 14:39.58 | remoteCTRL | xyan: prism i never heard before, atheros are quite a few... inte i5100? *g* |
| 14:40.17 | xyan | remoteCTRL: yeah intel chipsets dont work as ap at all |
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| 14:40.22 | cryptr | prism where quite ok back in the day |
| 14:40.34 | cryptr | 802.1b if i dont remember badly |
| 14:40.56 | remoteCTRL | xyan: cr.. thanks alot though guys! |
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| 14:45.20 | alcy | Folks, how do I get to know which particular dns server is replying for a name ? For eg., sometimes our site isn't accessible, a dig shows a (now) defunct address. However dig +trace provides the right answer ? |
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| 14:46.46 | abrotman | how many do you have? ask each one? |
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| 14:47.27 | cryptr | dig @servername |
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| 14:48.49 | alcy | abrotman: 4, will do that. |
| 14:49.14 | alcy | cryptr: thanks. I thought if it was possible using dig et al./ |
| 14:50.02 | cryptr | nslookup was a bit more friendly with those things |
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| 14:53.11 | alcy | abrotman: cryptr this is probably a registry issue then, cuz all nameservers point to the right address. |
| 14:53.21 | abrotman | registry? |
| 14:53.49 | xro | hi, i would like to monitor time execution of a pragram... i tried time ./mySoft but it's not enought accurate... Have you a better idea? |
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| 14:54.50 | abrotman | how is it not accureate enough ? |
| 14:55.07 | dkr | too many numbers |
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| 14:58.07 | at0m | man time |
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| 15:02.12 | sorressean | can I easily get python2.7 and python2.7-dev from experimental with apt without adding that source? |
| 15:02.55 | alcy | abrotman: for me personally, using opendns was causing the issue ( the address it was resolving to has been reported by quite a few people on the net). using other public ns resolves the name fine. but still some other folks have also reported the same issue, and they were not using opendns for sure. |
| 15:04.06 | abrotman | sorressean: depends on the deps |
| 15:04.26 | abrotman | xro: how is it not accurate enough ? |
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| 15:05.23 | sorressean | abrotman: ok, so how do I get 2.7? |
| 15:05.45 | djura-san | o/ |
| 15:06.49 | abrotman | sorressean: i said .. depends on the dep |
| 15:06.50 | abrotman | deps |
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| 15:07.34 | Iridos | depends on the depends? Is this some kind of Zen? |
| 15:07.59 | sorressean | abrotman: I heard you the first time... so... how do I grab 2.7? |
| 15:08.07 | abrotman | judd: depends python2.7 --release experimental |
| 15:08.10 | judd | Package python2.7 -- depends: python2.7-minimal (= 2.7-9), mime-support, libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libdb4.8, libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libncurses5 (>= 5.7+20100313), libreadline6 (>= 6.0), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.7.2). |
| 15:08.18 | abrotman | judd: depends python2.7-minimal --release experimental |
| 15:08.21 | judd | Package python2.7-minimal -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.0). |
| 15:08.29 | abrotman | seems like it hsould work .. |
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| 15:08.53 | themill | sorressean: are you planning to install that into squeeze or sid? |
| 15:09.17 | sorressean | themill: naw, lenny. I'm just not sure how to pull it from t unstable |
| 15:09.56 | cryptr | sorressean: download the .deb from debian.org and just dpkg -i it :) |
| 15:10.07 | sorressean | winces |
| 15:10.18 | sorressean | aight. wasn't sure if there was a awy with apt. :) |
| 15:10.18 | cryptr | and let apt-get -f install fix the missings |
| 15:10.28 | stew | cryptr: what about the dependencies? |
| 15:10.28 | sorressean | nods |
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| 15:10.34 | themill | no no no... mixing py2,7 into lenny is going to be a complete failure |
| 15:10.38 | stew | indeed |
| 15:10.58 | sorressean | well, I need 2.7... :o |
| 15:11.22 | themill | sorressean: "need" seriously? So little has changed since py2.5. /msg dpkg python 2.6 |
| 15:11.35 | sorressean | yep. NEED. |
| 15:11.58 | sorressean | is going to try to work in 2.7. |
| 15:12.01 | themill | Then you're SOL. Try a chroot. |
| 15:12.04 | cryptr | stew: if any apt-get -f install will fix it, else a no go in lenny i guess, unless you compile yourself |
| 15:12.24 | stew | cryptr: apt-get -f install wouldn't fix since the dependencies aren't all available in lenny |
| 15:12.48 | themill | (even if the dependencies were available in lenny, py2.7 wouldn't be able to use anything outside stdlib) |
| 15:12.59 | sorressean | I tried compiling. it sort of worked, but it errored with an unfound math module. |
| 15:13.17 | stew | cryptr: yeah, and what about python-central and python-support, they'd have to be backported as well? |
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| 15:20.50 | Dewi | sorressean: I tried not long ago to get 2.6 working in lenny. Even the source packages had way too many dependencies on post-lenny stuff, so I ended up building from the upstream source. Works okay. But that's 2.6 |
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| 15:21.52 | Iridos | how can the source packages have more dependencies than the upstream source? Sounds to me like you should have edited the dependencies after you figured them out... |
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| 15:22.54 | Dewi | Iridos: why? |
| 15:23.34 | Iridos | if you wanted to get a package out? |
| 15:23.49 | Iridos | which you seemed to, as you first looked at the source packages |
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| 15:24.36 | Dewi | Iridos: If I'm having to rewrite the package meta, I don't see much advantage in using a package |
| 15:26.13 | Iridos | huh? It's a package... managed by the package system... makes sure dependencies and conflicts get obvious and apt complains when they stop being there |
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| 15:26.31 | Iridos | what is it _you_ see as advantages of a package, then? |
| 15:26.33 | Dewi | there are no dependencies and conflicts because it's installed to /usr/local |
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| 15:27.02 | stew | "how can the source packages have more dependencies than the upstream source?" |
| 15:27.13 | stew | upstream wouldn't ahve dependencies on dpkg/debhelper for example |
| 15:27.21 | Iridos | it still has those dependencies... they don't magically go away just because you stuff things into /usr/local |
| 15:27.30 | stew | nor would it have a system for autobuilding modules like python-central/python-support |
| 15:27.37 | Dewi | I don't remember what it was in this case, but it was something huge like gtk I would have had to rewrite the dependancies for |
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| 15:27.59 | Dewi | or python to try to use an older gtk, I guess |
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| 15:30.13 | Dewi | stew: yeah, so if you start changing that kind of thing around, the resulting package is unlikely to properly satisfy the assumptions of "python 2.6" as expected by other packages |
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| 15:30.44 | Dewi | so... private installs have their place. Debian's quite accomodating now by keeping /usr/local completely clean |
| 15:31.02 | stew | right, especially when we ship scripts with '#!/usr/bin/python" and declare dependencies assuming that python-support is autobuilding modules for whatever python is /usr/bin/python |
| 15:31.47 | d1b | moo |
| 15:31.49 | Iridos | stew: all right, obviously the dependencie on dpkg is there additionally |
| 15:32.11 | d1b | stew: should be #!/use/bin/env python |
| 15:32.17 | d1b | stew: should be #!/usr/bin/env python |
| 15:32.23 | Iridos | !echo |
| 15:32.24 | dpkg | ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo...cho...ho...o....... |
| 15:32.37 | NET||abuse | hey debian folks, i'm on lenny but it comes with php 5.2.6, is there an accepted place to go to get updated packages such as php 5.3.3? |
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| 15:32.54 | Dewi | NET||abuse: backports usually has them, but not last time I checked, hang on |
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| 15:33.20 | stew | d1b: not according to policy, and that still has the same problems with modules not being autobuilt |
| 15:33.33 | d1b | stew: really? |
| 15:33.36 | Iridos | Dewi: like what? That I don't see... but figuring out the dependencies and writing them down properly is more work... I see that, too |
| 15:33.38 | d1b | since whem |
| 15:33.42 | stew | d1b: since when what? |
| 15:34.18 | stew | d1b: siince when should '/usr/bin/env' not be used? is that what you mean? |
| 15:34.30 | d1b | stew: yeah |
| 15:34.52 | stew | d1b: since a python sub-policy has existed afaik. see the current python policy section 1.4.2 |
| 15:34.54 | NET||abuse | Dewi, any guidance much appreciated |
| 15:35.02 | d1b | stew: really? |
| 15:35.04 | babilen | stew, d1b: Aren't both acceptable? I remember seeing a bunch of "env python" and "bin/python" packages around. |
| 15:35.10 | d1b | thats non-portable tho |
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| 15:35.26 | stew | "he may want to use /usr/bin/env python or /usr/bin/env pythonX.Y. However this is not advisable as it bypasses Debian's dependency checking and makes the package vulnerable to incomplete local installations of python." |
| 15:35.26 | d1b | on solaris i have env iirc |
| 15:35.42 | stew | d1b: the debian python policy is not attempting to be portable to solaris |
| 15:35.49 | Dewi | Iridos: if you're really paranoid, you can create a dir under /opt owned by you, and do the whole build & install without ever becoming root. So really basically no chance of breaking your system, and then you just manually invoke it |
| 15:35.50 | d1b | stew: :) |
| 15:36.04 | d1b | so just /usr/bin/python then? |
| 15:36.21 | stew | or /usr/bin/pythonX.Y |
| 15:36.21 | babilen | d1b: Or versioned if needed (i.e. pythonX.Y) |
| 15:36.37 | Iridos | Dewi: I'm not :)... anyway you know... just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out there to get you! :-P |
| 15:36.41 | d1b | oh not a version.... that never ends well! |
| 15:36.59 | NET||abuse | d1b, best method for python is use virtualenv, you compile specific python for your project, then set the env var for pythonpath to your custom build within the virtualenv |
| 15:37.06 | d1b | NET||abuse: nooo |
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| 15:37.13 | d1b | i will not do that |
| 15:37.15 | stew | d1b: and its for exactly this reason. "/usr/bin/env python" would probably find /usr/local/bin/python, which in this instance would be python2.7 for which modules weren't autobuilt by python-support /python-central |
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| 15:37.29 | d1b | stew: mm perhaps |
| 15:37.29 | babilen | exactly |
| 15:37.34 | HJUK | i can't uninstall dropbox help! |
| 15:37.35 | NET||abuse | d1b, meh, ok @) |
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| 15:37.44 | stew | d1b: so when a package declare "i depend on python-foomodule" foomodule is no longer guranteed to be avaialble |
| 15:37.54 | d1b | fair enough |
| 15:37.57 | Dewi | Iridos: well it's what I normally do. It wasn't until just the other day I noticed /usr/local was very clean on my system so I decided to relax a bit and use it |
| 15:37.58 | thewanderer1 | HJUK: so how *did* you install it? |
| 15:37.59 | babilen | !tell HJUK -about bat |
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| 15:38.08 | babilen | HJUK: Please provide more information |
| 15:38.16 | HJUK | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.26 | Dewi | NET||abuse: I don't know why, but there's no php backports for lenny atm |
| 15:38.59 | babilen | HJUK: And use â http://paste.debian.net -- don't forget the "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy PKG1â¦PKGN" information |
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| 15:39.03 | Dewi | NET||abuse: however, 5.3.3 has made it into testing, so you could try building the source package and see how it goes |
| 15:41.14 | Iridos | Dewi: another advantage of a properly backported package is... that it can go into the backports repository saving everyone else the work to go through the same thing. |
| 15:41.31 | Dewi | NET||abuse: actually it looks like dotdeb has packages - http://www.dotdeb.org/instructions/ |
| 15:42.06 | dkr | what does running "env foo" accomplish exactly? I've only used env with no args to print my current env, heh |
| 15:42.10 | babilen | !dotdeb |
| 15:42.10 | dpkg | it has been said that dotdeb is for the latest PHP and MySQL releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/, but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN. There is little reason to use dotdeb.org now that backported versions of PHP and MySQL are available from backports.debian.org. Ask me about <backports> and <debian-backports>. "aptitude purge ~Vdotdeb" |
| 15:42.13 | d1b | stew: ok ill update my sofware then :) |
| 15:42.15 | d1b | thanks |
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| 15:42.46 | Dewi | babilen: yeah, exactly. Except for the last couple of weeks backports.debian.org has been phpless for some reason. |
| 15:43.43 | Dewi | Iridos: indeed. I just don't have that much confidence in my knowledge of dpkg or policy |
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| 15:44.04 | AlexC_ | morning |
| 15:44.05 | dkr | I can understand "env FOO=bar command" or "env -i command" to run with modified env, but not sure what "env command" is doing |
| 15:44.22 | Number5 | hello guys, I want to beep my system by issueing the following command: echo '\a' > /dev/tty0 |
| 15:44.23 | AlexC_ | with `screen` how can I disable the 'lockscreen' key combination? It's the most stupid thing I can think of |
| 15:44.32 | Number5 | but I can't hear any beep...:( |
| 15:44.37 | babilen | ,versions php5 |
| 15:44.39 | judd | Package php5 on i386 -- etch: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; sid: 5.3.2-1; sid: 5.3.3-2; squeeze: 5.3.3-2 |
| 15:44.44 | babilen | Dewi: You are right |
| 15:45.06 | dkr | Number5: try xset b on |
| 15:45.12 | babilen | Dewi: Which, however, does not change the fact that dotdeb packages are not supported in #debian :) |
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| 15:45.29 | Number5 | dkr: on desktop environment? |
| 15:45.52 | thewanderer1 | Number5: you could just try 'beep' program, too, if you want to provide a notification to the user - has lots of features |
| 15:46.04 | dkr | Number5: yeah, obviously an assumption on my part. heh |
| 15:46.38 | Dewi | babilen: yeah. I still recommend it to people over configure/make/installing a tarball tho |
| 15:46.43 | Number5 | thewanderer1: beep, ok that's for later, but I want to generate a beep manually, just to be sure it works. |
| 15:46.45 | dkr | Number5: you could also make sure pcspkr is loaded with lsmod |
| 15:46.51 | Number5 | dkr: ok, I understand |
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| 15:47.03 | Number5 | hmmm |
| 15:47.17 | babilen | Dewi: Sure -- it might be worth a try to manually backport the squeeze/sid package though. |
| 15:47.27 | Dewi | AlexC_: "The screenlock program may be changed through the environment variable $LOCKPRG" |
| 15:47.59 | Number5 | dkr: funny thing is, when hit arrow down a few times, I can hear the beep is generated, that confuses me, why the arrow key and not me :S |
| 15:47.59 | Iridos | Dewi: I think you'd mainly reduce dependencies to what is *really* needed but I haven't backported anything complex and put it up on backports yet either... if python is a bit tricky it seems like something worthwhile to do, though :) |
| 15:48.07 | Dewi | AlexC_: so I guess replace with a dummy program that does nothing |
| 15:48.50 | dkr | Number5: ah, well that's a good sign at least that you have a working speaker. oh. for echo to parse \a you need to give it an option -e |
| 15:48.52 | Dewi | Iridos: yeah, I got the feeling this wasn't so much a dep bug as a deliberate decision to build python against newer infrastructure as seen in squeeze |
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| 15:49.07 | AlexC_ | Dewi: no, this is using the program 'screen' which has a key combination that essentially locks "screen" as in, it no longer accepts any input. I hit it far too many times and it's very annoying |
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| 15:49.22 | themill | Iridos: backporting python2.6 to lenny would be close to a person-year's work to do. It's just not worth it. over 600 python packages in debian had to be modified to cope with python2.6... this is not the sort of thing that you're going to do for backports. |
| 15:49.36 | Dewi | AlexC_: yes, and screen runs $LOCKPRG when you press ctrl-a,x |
| 15:49.40 | Number5 | dkr: I think that's it |
| 15:50.21 | Number5 | dkr: nope, that doesn't work either. |
| 15:50.42 | NET||abuse | hmm, Dewi: so you think i should use dotdeb? or should i stick with backports? |
| 15:51.04 | abrotman | stay away from dotdeb |
| 15:51.05 | dkr | Number5: are you getting a permissions error? |
| 15:51.23 | Dewi | NET||abuse: backports for sure, but at the moment no php is there |
| 15:51.25 | Number5 | no, I run it as root |
| 15:51.30 | Dewi | abrotman: any idea where you get latest php? |
| 15:51.44 | Dewi | abrotman: backports has been missing it the last few times I've seen people asking |
| 15:51.46 | NET||abuse | Dewi, even 5.3.0? |
| 15:51.49 | abrotman | backports.org or make your own |
| 15:51.49 | Iridos | themill: all right... I see :) |
| 15:52.17 | Dewi | !tell NET||abuse about ssb |
| 15:52.17 | Number5 | I wanted to try that earlier, about a year ago, but didn't succeed, very very annoying. |
| 15:52.19 | thewanderer1 | why would one need the latest PHP? |
| 15:52.25 | dkr | Number5: strace -ewrite echo -e '\a' > /dev/tty0 |
| 15:52.34 | stew | NET||abuse: you might try to check the backports mailing list and see if there is a reason there isn't a php backprot from debian |
| 15:52.37 | Dewi | NET||abuse: just sent you instructions for building a source package from testing/unstable. |
| 15:52.41 | themill | Dewi: since half the people running squeeze seem to want 5.2 instead of 5.3 it's starting to sound even more like it should be consigned to the ruby and python "I must use this exact version of $tool because it's too crap to maintain compatability" bin. |
| 15:52.52 | AimHere | To fix last weeks security vulnerabilities, thewanderer1? |
| 15:53.03 | thewanderer1 | AimHere: that's what Lenny is for! |
| 15:53.05 | Dewi | themill: indeed. Or just the bin in general. |
| 15:53.07 | dkr | Number5: is that syscall succeeding? (return value of 2 for 2 bytes written) |
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| 15:53.51 | dkr | actually doesn't need the newline, could do echo -en and send 1 byte |
| 15:54.00 | Dewi | themill: problem doing that with php is the way it integrates with apache. Might be okay using fastcgi tho |
| 15:54.07 | themill | AimHere: we have a security team to handle this already. |
| 15:54.24 | jhutchins | AimHere: Generally if there are documented vulnerabilities the older releases in Debian will be patched for them, even if the version number doesn't scream "BLEEDING EDGE"! |
| 15:55.03 | AimHere | Heh, I was kindof sneering at PHP's rep for having vulnerabilities, wasn't being serious |
| 15:55.15 | Dewi | jhutchins / AimHere: yep. that's actually WHY we do feature freezes - so you can keep getting security without your system becoming unstable due to new features / breaking changes |
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| 15:55.19 | Number5 | dkr: I give up, it just doesn't work for me |
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| 15:56.29 | Number5 | dkr: it works! it works! hahahaha |
| 15:56.31 | thewanderer1 | Number5: try beep, it's better at this |
| 15:56.33 | thewanderer1 | woah |
| 15:56.38 | themill | Dewi: rebuilding against the apache development packages should be enough. Last time I looked it seemed to be quite possible to do. No idea whether that's currently the case though. |
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| 15:57.11 | dkr | Number5: cool. realize what you did differently? |
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| 15:57.40 | Number5 | echo -e '\a' > /dev/tty0 did the trick. Damn, how did I missed that, aaah man. Anyway, dkr thewanderer1 both of you thanks. |
| 15:58.45 | Number5 | dkr: it was that -e option I missed it, tried that before but with tty2 (as I'm logged on another shell session). |
| 15:59.07 | dkr | ah |
| 15:59.38 | Number5 | anyway, I'm a bit ashamed of the situation...but thnx. |
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| 16:09.30 | sllide | is there a hotkey to open a terminal? |
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| 16:09.56 | thewanderer1 | sure... ctrl+alt+f1 :P |
| 16:10.00 | sllide | lol |
| 16:10.05 | sllide | terminal window ;) |
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| 16:10.20 | timo | sllide: depending on your window manager you can define one |
| 16:10.21 | thewanderer1 | alt+f2 gnome-terminal, or alt+f2 konsole if under KDE... |
| 16:10.35 | timo | or those |
| 16:10.46 | dkr | sllide: system...prefs...kb shortcuts |
| 16:10.48 | sllide | alt+f2 is execute in gnome? |
| 16:10.50 | sllide | ah |
| 16:10.51 | sllide | kk |
| 16:11.09 | dkr | I made mine windowskey+x don't remember the default. heh |
| 16:11.41 | rdz | hi all. how can i find out, if the php5 in debian stable is built against openssl? or more specific: if php5-ldap also works for LDAPS ? |
| 16:12.10 | sllide | default is not assigned |
| 16:12.13 | sllide | made it windowskey+t :) |
| 16:12.22 | thewanderer1 | rdz: phpinfo() is your friend |
| 16:12.22 | dkr | rdz: ldd `which php`|grep ssl |
| 16:12.42 | thewanderer1 | (mine did work) |
| 16:12.45 | rdz | dkr, thewanderer1 thanks to both of you.. both are interesting approaches |
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| 16:13.50 | dkr | I've no ideas on the second question. :) |
| 16:14.14 | AlexC_ | dkr: I assume you mean 'php -m' |
| 16:14.27 | thewanderer1 | when I was last playing with it, it did support LDAPS... but MS Active Directory didn't want to talk to that :) |
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| 16:14.40 | rdz | thewanderer1, ok.. good to know |
| 16:14.54 | rdz | AlexC_, why do you think he meant 'php -m' ? |
| 16:15.05 | AlexC_ | rdz: well beacuse `php | grep ssl` will do 100% nothing |
| 16:15.23 | dkr | AlexC_: except that's not what i wrote. :) |
| 16:15.27 | cryptr | hehe |
| 16:15.28 | rdz | AlexC_, he actually did: which php | grep ssl |
| 16:15.40 | cryptr | + ldd |
| 16:15.43 | AlexC_ | rdz: no, he did `which php` | grep ssl |
| 16:15.50 | dkr | you missed the ldd |
| 16:15.50 | AlexC_ | dkr: yes you did |
| 16:16.14 | AlexC_ | ahh, well then appologies - I read that as a username in here ;) |
| 16:16.17 | cryptr | which is deprecated and should have been ldd $(which php) | grep ssl |
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| 16:16.45 | AlexC_ | indeed |
| 16:16.51 | dkr | cryptr: backticks are deprecated? |
| 16:17.05 | dkr | I don't use bash for my shell anyway, :0 |
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| 16:17.28 | sllide | in my pov ubuntu is like the mustache of debian |
| 16:17.30 | AlexC_ | for Bash they pretty much are yeah, you should alway go for $() if you can |
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| 16:17.41 | AlexC_ | same with [[ over [ |
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| 16:17.58 | dkr | well backticks work in bash, perl, and tcsh so I'll stick with them, :) |
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| 16:19.21 | cryptr | well ages since i somewhere read that both still works so |
| 16:19.41 | AlexC_ | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/082 |
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| 16:22.37 | dkr | I was going to say "preferred" I can understand, but not "deprecated" since it'd break compatibility with sh, but the end of that page shows that $() is POSIX and only old non-posix sh don't understand it. heh |
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| 16:24.44 | cryptr | hmm :) |
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| 16:27.30 | cryptr | one 'could' say 'whatever floats your boat' |
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| 16:29.24 | frikinz | Do sshv2 authentication allow to have a change in the ip (but the hostname keeps the same) with respect to known_hosts ? |
| 16:29.45 | JoshH | they'll have to type yes again |
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| 16:30.13 | somiaj | you can set how strict the client is on such things |
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| 16:30.55 | frikinz | I need everything to be automatic. it's a reverse ssh started from cron.. |
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| 16:34.08 | somiaj | frikinz: in your /etc/ssh/ssh_config file you need to set the StrictHostKeyChecking=no -- which is generally considered a bad idea |
| 16:34.09 | cryptr | frikinz: do not think that has ever caused problems for me, using dyndns and ssh2 |
| 16:34.16 | somiaj | frikinz: but that will only give you a warning that the key has changed. |
| 16:35.16 | frikinz | somiaj: but the warning does not need user input right? |
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| 16:35.34 | somiaj | frikinz: no user input, just warns you it has changed |
| 16:35.45 | somiaj | frikinz: also apears you can also set the CheckHostIP (man ssh_config) |
| 16:36.09 | tuvwx | cron.daily keeps getting stuck at a defunct apt script (/etc/cront.daily/apt) |
| 16:36.14 | frikinz | somiaj, cryptr : thanks, I'll remove most of them then. |
| 16:37.03 | somiaj | frikinz: seems if you just set CheckHostIP = no, it will only check hostname (not hostname and ip) when reading though known_hosts |
| 16:37.17 | somiaj | frikinz: that may be more what you want, then if the host names key actually changes it won't try to connenct |
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| 16:37.24 | frikinz | somiaj: yes, that's what I read, only this one |
| 16:37.42 | somiaj | probabaly a better option than turning off checking all together |
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| 16:38.39 | somiaj | frikinz: you can also set this in $HOME/.ssh/config if you only want a single user to have these options and override your machines defaults |
| 16:38.40 | akio | What tool can I use that is like parted in the debian installer? |
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| 16:39.00 | somiaj | akio: I use cfdisk to make partitions, but it isn't as automatic |
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| 16:39.25 | jhutchins | akio: parted |
| 16:39.36 | jhutchins | akio: Sometimes known as gparted. |
| 16:39.49 | somiaj | akio: though you could just install parted as jhutchins suggested if that is what you want. |
| 16:39.52 | akio | It doesn't look like either of those is available in the busybox d-i enironment. |
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| 16:40.20 | akio | Not regular Debian, the Debian installer... |
| 16:40.40 | somiaj | hmm, I thoguht cfdisk was on the DI, maybe just fdisk was |
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| 16:40.55 | akio | I am using squeeze. |
| 16:40.56 | somiaj | though fdisk is a bit diffcult to use (compartivally) |
| 16:40.57 | jhutchins | akio: I did a squeeze install last week and the installer loaded and ran parted. |
| 16:41.25 | akio | I get a /bin/sh parted not found |
| 16:41.33 | jhutchins | It used that semi-graphical interface, not full GUI. |
| 16:41.37 | akio | Maybe it is the version of the installer that I am using. |
| 16:41.47 | jhutchins | akio: Maybe you need a path. |
| 16:41.55 | jhutchins | akio: I used the one that unetbootin pulls in. |
| 16:41.59 | akio | I am trying to do this in the next virtual terminal. |
| 16:42.09 | somiaj | has the testing di been fairly stable, I'm use to it being iffy at best (on previous releases) and avoid it |
| 16:42.34 | Chosi | http://nopaste.narf.at/show/357/ how can i resolve this? i don't use netconsole. |
| 16:42.38 | akio | I have seen it crap a few times. |
| 16:43.45 | jhutchins | somiaj: It has had it's problems - the grub install didn't work for me and hasn't worked for others here, but other than that it was ok. |
| 16:44.05 | karlpinc | Chosi: What did you type to get those messages? |
| 16:44.07 | jhutchins | It _did_ have everything on my Acer netbook working, but the control for the internal mic has vanished. |
| 16:44.19 | somiaj | jhutchins: that sounds more useable than it was in the past testings before stabailazation |
| 16:44.23 | Chosi | karlpinc: i wanted to reinstall munin-node |
| 16:44.27 | Chosi | or remove |
| 16:44.39 | Chosi | but i can't |
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| 16:44.49 | stew | Chosi: what does "dpkg -S /etc/init.d/netconsole" return? |
| 16:45.01 | Chosi | dpkg: /etc/init.d/netconsole not found. |
| 16:45.01 | dpkg | Chosi: i haven't a clue |
| 16:45.07 | Chosi | shh :D |
| 16:45.09 | karlpinc | Chosi: What did you type to get those messages? |
| 16:45.23 | stew | Chosi: do you know where this init script came from? |
| 16:45.29 | jhutchins | Chosi: What release are you on? |
| 16:45.56 | Chosi | uhm wahtever happened it just worked now |
| 16:45.58 | Chosi | i tried again |
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| 16:46.00 | Chosi | i'm on squeeze |
| 16:46.21 | Chosi | when i try to install it again |
| 16:46.23 | Chosi | i get the message again |
| 16:46.31 | Chosi | apt-get install munin-node |
| 16:46.49 | Chosi | http://nopaste.narf.at/show/358/ |
| 16:47.32 | stew | Chosi: so the netconsole init script needs to either be fixed, or it needs to go away |
| 16:48.03 | Chosi | stew: where can i find it? |
| 16:48.07 | Chosi | it's nowhere to be found |
| 16:48.11 | stew | Chosi: /etc/init.d |
| 16:48.18 | Chosi | no netconsole there |
| 16:48.32 | Chosi | hold on, wrong ssh session |
| 16:48.49 | stew | Chosi: is it the wrong ssh session where you ran "dpkg -S /etc/init.d/netconsole" ? |
| 16:48.54 | Chosi | confusing, thanks i removed it |
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| 16:49.20 | Chosi | stew: nah nevermind i created that init.d myself for netconsole |
| 16:49.23 | Chosi | it was broken |
| 16:49.25 | Chosi | should be fixed now |
| 16:49.47 | stew | Chosi: if there were symlinks from directories like /etc/rc2.d you'd want to remove thse as well |
| 16:49.48 | Chosi | yup, sorry for the hassle. my fault |
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| 17:21.11 | windoof | hi |
| 17:21.26 | windoof | someone here who can help me with linux antix? |
| 17:22.00 | franki^ | !antix |
| 17:22.00 | dpkg | antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. http://antix.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on Debian>. |
| 17:22.32 | windoof | so am i allowed just to ask? |
| 17:22.38 | windoof | or will i bee kicked |
| 17:23.20 | franki^ | You probably won't be kicked, but you probably will be ignored. If I were you, I'd go to #mepis on Freenode :) |
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| 17:23.49 | windoof | i installed antix yesterday and i boots fine, but i can't log in |
| 17:24.04 | windoof | franki^: i allready asked there |
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| 17:24.23 | windoof | there are 5 people |
| 17:24.27 | windoof | 3 afk |
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| 17:24.40 | babilen | windoof: Save yourself the hassle, install Debian and get support in here ;) |
| 17:24.41 | stew | windoof: sorry, try a mepis or antix mailing list or web forum or some such |
| 17:24.56 | windoof | babilen: i tried, but i didn't work |
| 17:25.18 | babilen | windoof: *that* is something we can help you with. What was the problem? |
| 17:25.49 | windoof | i tried installing debain using a squeez on an usb-flash |
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| 17:26.02 | windoof | but there was an error after partitionating |
| 17:26.04 | stew | windoof: do you want help with debian squeeze? or just with antix? |
| 17:26.11 | windoof | i want to keep mz /home |
| 17:26.42 | windoof | stew: i would like to hava working debain-based linux on my norebook |
| 17:26.51 | windoof | notebook |
| 17:27.00 | windoof | ind i would like to keep my /home |
| 17:27.12 | stew | windoof: if you want to keep your /home, then choose "manual partitioning" in the debian installer |
| 17:27.23 | windoof | stew i did so |
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| 17:27.39 | stew | windoof: what is the error you are getting? |
| 17:27.51 | windoof | i set mz old / as / mz swap as swap and my /home as /home |
| 17:28.02 | windoof | and i formatted the first ones |
| 17:28.29 | windoof | stew don't know it excatly |
| 17:28.35 | stew | windoof: then we can't really help |
| 17:28.48 | stew | we can't just guess at the problem effectively |
| 17:28.49 | windoof | do you jhave some time? |
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| 17:29.05 | stew | there are hundreds of people here, someone will |
| 17:29.06 | windoof | i could put a new debian on a stick and try it again |
| 17:29.19 | babilen | !usb install |
| 17:29.19 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 17:29.29 | babilen | windoof: ^^^^ explains how to setup your usb stick |
| 17:29.53 | windoof | babilen: i used unetbootin |
| 17:29.53 | babilen | But as you got that working already you might just do what you did before |
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| 17:30.47 | babilen | windoof: Good luck and I hope that everything works out as you want it to. If you have questions or problems just come here. |
| 17:31.40 | karlpinc | When I've got an iso and a md5 how do I verify the md5 after burning the iso to cd? I keep getting the wrong checksum, but the cd mounts etc. |
| 17:31.48 | karlpinc | (I swear I've done this before ....) |
| 17:32.03 | unixSnob | the website www.triodos.com hangs me to the point that I have to kill iceweasel. Anyone else have that problem? I wonder how widespread it is |
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| 17:33.45 | somiaj | unixSnob: is it iceweasle or a plugin that is causing the hang? You could disable addons/plugins -- maybe run in safe mode and see |
| 17:33.57 | cryptr | unixSnob: works in kfreebsd |
| 17:34.05 | cryptr | unixSnob: noaddons |
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| 17:34.37 | unixSnob | okay.. I figure it works for some. I just wonder if other iceweasel users experience this. I'll try disabling plugins.. if that's easy |
| 17:34.40 | jhutchins | karlpinc: md5sum /dev/<whatever> - UNmounted. |
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| 17:35.45 | jhutchins | unixSnob: Works here on lenny with iceweasel 3.5.12 |
| 17:35.52 | jhutchins | ,versions iceweasel |
| 17:35.53 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.15-1~bpo50+1; sid: 3.5.15-1; squeeze: 3.5.15-1; experimental: 3.6.12-2 |
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| 17:36.14 | jhutchins | Ah, an update. |
| 17:36.22 | rozie | unixSnob: works here (Squeeze) |
| 17:36.31 | g0rd0n | something shitty happened and i got htis situation: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2010-11-08 18:26 /etc/default -> /etc/dkim.key ... is there a way to recover the default/ folder or is it gone now? |
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| 17:37.12 | unixSnob | okay, thanks.. must just be my old version of iceweasel (i have plugins disabled, and it still hangs with no display) |
| 17:37.13 | cryptr | should not beable to overwrite default |
| 17:37.16 | cryptr | if it was a folder |
| 17:37.30 | cryptr | you must have removed it first |
| 17:37.45 | g0rd0n | then a script did :( |
| 17:37.49 | g0rd0n | how lame |
| 17:37.53 | cryptr | and if so then most likely gone if you use ext[234] |
| 17:38.01 | cryptr | and other fs |
| 17:38.25 | cryptr | you run dangerous scripts :) |
| 17:38.37 | karlpinc | jhutchins: Tried that (maybe that one scrolled off the screen). And tried dd if=/dev/hda | md5sum. I get a different answer than the md5 on the iso file. If I give dd a bs=2048 and a count=foo then I get errors of a few blocks at the very end that won't read. (I'm pretty sure this is some sort of padding issue...) |
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| 17:39.07 | cusco_ | how do I know my partition UUID ? |
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| 17:39.14 | cusco_ | its not yet in fstab because it is a new disk |
| 17:39.15 | jhutchins | Hm, my pinning doesn't seem to be working, have to upgrade iceweasel by hand with -t lenny-backports |
| 17:39.20 | g0rd0n | cryptr: i just installed dkim, but something must have fucked up |
| 17:39.21 | cryptr | g0rd0n: you could probably get most back from a standard deb anyway and go from there |
| 17:39.23 | cusco_ | so I would like to add it to fstab... |
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| 17:39.35 | g0rd0n | oh well... gotta get a backup then |
| 17:39.41 | cryptr | mmm |
| 17:39.49 | g0rd0n | it's from another server but it had the same packages installed |
| 17:39.50 | cryptr | sounds bad if you just installed standard dkim from apt-get |
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| 17:39.55 | g0rd0n | i did |
| 17:39.58 | jhutchins | karlpinc: Could be padding. A lot of my burns fail K3B's verification, but that's a known bug. |
| 17:40.00 | unixSnob | i'm also using Gnash.. I wonder if gnash is the problem |
| 17:40.15 | windoof | i'm in the par |
| 17:40.16 | unixSnob | the site hangs Epiphony browser too |
| 17:40.18 | jhutchins | karlpinc: When it's matched, it's been when I've done md5sum /dev/<foo> |
| 17:40.22 | windoof | i'm in the partitioning-part |
| 17:40.31 | windoof | choosed ' manual' |
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| 17:40.42 | jhutchins | unixSnob: Probably, it's a flash-heavy page. |
| 17:40.43 | karlpinc | jhutchins: I just used wodim. (tao mode) There's something in tao mode in the docs, but I forget the details. |
| 17:40.53 | windoof | i hvae 3 partitions already on my pc |
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| 17:41.34 | windoof | on (7gb) i would like to use as / |
| 17:41.52 | windoof | one (3GB) i would like to use as swap |
| 17:42.02 | windoof | and the last one as /home |
| 17:42.23 | windoof | i just set it up this way |
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| 17:43.06 | windoof | but when i try to write changs to hdd there is an error |
| 17:43.16 | karlpinc | cusco_: The partitions don't have a uuid until you put a filesystem on them. Then you can use (e.g.) tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 to see it. |
| 17:43.52 | karlpinc | jhutchins: I think I'll ignore the problem and hope it goes away. :) |
| 17:44.05 | windoof | ' Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sdb5 -- Device or resource busy. |
| 17:44.36 | jhutchins | windoof: Which partition is sdb5 trying to be? |
| 17:44.41 | windoof | this means Linux wont know about any changes you made to /dev/sdb5 |
| 17:44.50 | windoof | jhutchins: swap |
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| 17:45.25 | jhutchins | windoof: Interesting. Could be a bad disk. You can continue, swap isn't really necessary. How much RAM do you have? |
| 17:45.25 | windoof | please help someone |
| 17:45.40 | windoof | jhutchins: 1gb |
| 17:45.47 | jhutchins | windoof: Should be fine. |
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| 17:46.03 | windoof | jhutchins: what should i do with the partiton? |
| 17:46.08 | windoof | leaving it free? |
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| 17:46.26 | jhutchins | windoof: The other thing you could do is use a live CD like gparted, or even Windows if it's on there, and check the disk |
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| 17:46.58 | windoof | jhutchins: i've just one usb stick ready to use |
| 17:47.04 | windoof | on this is the debian |
| 17:47.05 | iceroot | is it possible to open a iso-file, put a new file in it and recreate that iso? |
| 17:47.12 | windoof | i'll try without swap |
| 17:47.22 | jhutchins | windoof: ... and no backups of course. |
| 17:47.58 | cusco_ | karlpinc: I put a filesystem on it already |
| 17:48.21 | cusco_ | karlpinc: thanks. I found out /dev/disk/by-uuid/ has what I neede :) |
| 17:48.36 | windoof | jhutchins: same error |
| 17:49.02 | jhutchins | windoof: Can you just ignore the error and continue? |
| 17:49.12 | windoof | jhutchins: i tried |
| 17:49.16 | windoof | seems to work |
| 17:49.28 | windoof | i'll be back alter |
| 17:50.28 | jhutchins | Good luck. |
| 17:50.36 | somiaj | iceroot: you'll have to extract the whole file system from the iso -- put it somewhere, then add what ever files you want and regenerate the iso with mkisofs |
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| 17:51.07 | somiaj | iceroot: you can mount the current iso as a loop back device so you can copy the file tree -- but I cannot think of anyway to expand the current iso |
| 17:51.28 | jhutchins | There is actually a program that will let you modify the ISO in RAM so you don't have to extract it all. |
| 17:51.37 | jhutchins | isoedit? |
| 17:51.55 | somiaj | ahh yea and most mondern machines have enough ram for that...(: |
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| 17:54.12 | jhutchins | isomaster |
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| 17:54.29 | jhutchins | I don't think that's the one I used a couple of years ago, but there it is. |
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| 18:03.02 | windoof | partitioning worked |
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| 18:04.43 | windoof | but now i'v e a new probelm |
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| 18:06.00 | katsrc | how can i install the latest version of KDE SC on Debian when it's not available on the repos? |
| 18:06.13 | katsrc | are there third party repos, or do i have to compile it myself? |
| 18:06.46 | windoof | ' warning: failure trying to run: chroot /tartget dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-18lenny4_i386.deb' |
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| 18:07.00 | windoof | what do i have to do now? |
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| 18:07.33 | somiaj | windoof: are you using the squeeze installer? |
| 18:07.45 | windoof | somiaj: yes |
| 18:07.55 | windoof | netinstall i mean |
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| 18:09.57 | abrotman | katsrc: you compile it yourself if you want it that badly |
| 18:10.00 | windoof | is noone able to help me? |
| 18:10.11 | abrotman | windoof: put the full error in a pastebin |
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| 18:10.34 | katsrc | abrotman: how messy is compiling a DE? |
| 18:11.07 | windoof | http://pastebin.com/bEk7ZkXq |
| 18:11.08 | abrotman | if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't |
| 18:11.30 | abrotman | katsrc: if it's your first time, i'd imagine you might cry a bit :) |
| 18:11.35 | jordanm | katsrc: difficult enough for the upstreams themselves to not recommend it |
| 18:11.41 | abrotman | windoof: no .. the full command and ALL of the output |
| 18:11.47 | katsrc | yikes |
| 18:11.54 | windoof | abrotman: that's all |
| 18:12.07 | somiaj | windoof: my suggestion would be use the 'stable' installer, but others may help you though any of these bugs you run across in testing |
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| 18:12.29 | windoof | somiaj: i use stable netisntall |
| 18:12.30 | abrotman | windoof: no, there ise more |
| 18:12.48 | windoof | abrotman: what should there be else? |
| 18:12.59 | somiaj | windoof: well then why did you say 'yes' to using the squeeze installer. |
| 18:13.11 | windoof | somiaj: i corrected me |
| 18:13.13 | abrotman | windoof: are you using the squeeze or lenny installer? is this for a workstation or server? |
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| 18:13.42 | windoof | abrotman: i used the stable netinstaller from unetbootin and it's a notebook |
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| 18:14.01 | EGreg | why is debian better than centos for web hosting? |
| 18:14.02 | abrotman | windoof: and that error is in the debug console ? |
| 18:14.06 | abrotman | !why debian |
| 18:14.06 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ (archived at http://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebian) http://www.aboutdebian.com/ . As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
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| 18:14.31 | windoof | abrotman: it's an alert while the installing process |
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| 18:14.43 | windoof | abrotman: while installing the 'base system' |
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| 18:16.32 | abrotman | windoof: and there is no error above or below in the debug console? (alt-f3 IIRC) |
| 18:16.36 | windoof | where ar e all the people who talked to me about 1 hour ago? |
| 18:16.36 | somiaj | !tell EGreg about better |
| 18:16.37 | abrotman | or maybe f2 .. one of those |
| 18:17.38 | windoof | abrotman: alt f2 and alt f3 jsut switch to a console |
| 18:17.42 | windoof | but its clear |
| 18:17.48 | abrotman | windoof: f4 ? |
| 18:17.50 | abrotman | check them all |
| 18:17.52 | abrotman | one of them is a debug |
| 18:18.46 | windoof | abrotman: i'm not sure but f4 could be one |
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| 18:19.18 | windoof | abrotman: there is an log |
| 18:19.24 | windoof | a log |
| 18:19.42 | windoof | abrotman: i think it the installtion |
| 18:20.18 | abrotman | windoof: so look around for some errors about libc6 |
| 18:20.26 | abrotman | doesn't this computer have a CD drive? |
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| 18:21.36 | babilen | windoof: And you are *sure* that it says "/tartget" and not "/target" ? |
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| 18:23.55 | windoof | abrotman: last entries are: http://pastebin.com/ZGwetCQS |
| 18:24.11 | abrotman | should be more than that ? |
| 18:24.26 | jordanm | lennz4? |
| 18:24.27 | windoof | babilen: it's '/target' , sry |
| 18:24.30 | windoof | babilen: my fault |
| 18:24.32 | Chosi | lennz :> |
| 18:24.40 | stew | libc6_2.7-18lennz4 ? |
| 18:24.52 | Chosi | english kezboard lazout :P |
| 18:24.56 | windoof | abrotman: there is no cd drive |
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| 18:25.11 | babilen | windoof: Ok. I assumed that, but you said it in here *and* on the pastebin. :) |
| 18:25.12 | windoof | stew: right |
| 18:25.34 | windoof | babilen: i just copied to pastbin :> |
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| 18:26.07 | windoof | ups, of course lenny4 |
| 18:26.13 | windoof | it's german layout |
| 18:26.21 | _kodiak_ | Hi, I need to resize some LVols, Some tell me some distro that contains system-config-lvm by default (I have problems with my wii cards in live-cds) |
| 18:26.28 | windoof | i'm used to uk layout |
| 18:26.40 | holocene | noob question: is it only disk 1 of the multi iso set that I really need? |
| 18:26.51 | babilen | _kodiak_: Are you looking for a Live CD? |
| 18:26.55 | abrotman | holocene: if you have broadband, the netinst is really the preferred method |
| 18:27.00 | _kodiak_ | babilen, yes |
| 18:27.19 | holocene | abrotman, but if I have to reinstall, then that ends up being longer, right? |
| 18:27.34 | babilen | _kodiak_: I am quite fond of GRML and it comes with everyhting you need to resize LVols |
| 18:27.43 | abrotman | holocene: depends .. if the CD you download and use is out of date, it would technically take less time |
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| 18:27.59 | _kodiak_ | GRML? |
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| 18:28.19 | holocene | abrotman, will try the netinst (sp) method then. thanks |
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| 18:28.32 | babilen | windoof: Ok, well. That does not really help much then. Could you please check for additional error messages related to the libc6 installation? It is quite hard to find a solution with such a generic error message as the one you quoted :-\ |
| 18:28.50 | babilen | _kodiak_: http://grml.org/ (first google hit) |
| 18:28.57 | _kodiak_ | ok, thax |
| 18:28.58 | holocene | abrotman, by the way, is there an option to just install the non-gui components? |
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| 18:29.31 | windoof | how can i scroll in teh debugg-shell? |
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| 18:31.46 | stew | holocene: yea, just make sure "desktop" is unchecked when it asks you which tasks to install. note that the bulk of stuff you are downloading on CD1 that isn't on the netinst is probably gui stuff |
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| 18:32.13 | abrotman | windoof: ctrl-pgup |
| 18:32.55 | holocene | stew, very cool. |
| 18:33.03 | somiaj | holocene: I would look into installing a 'base' system, (this won't have a gui and limited tools) but from there you can use aptitutde to install any tools you want. |
| 18:33.26 | holocene | somiaj, nice. thanks to all. |
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| 18:34.45 | holocene | I am trying to install on old hardware. for some reason, ubuntu server (sorry to mention that word) will not install |
| 18:35.09 | holocene | due to old graphics card. |
| 18:35.15 | Vasistha | so, while attempting to make a backup, my brother managed to rm -rf a month's worth of work, including his git repository. Is the "sleuthkit" likely the best approach to recover files from an ext3 volume? Nothing has been written to that (work-data-only) partition since the accidental removal |
| 18:35.43 | Vasistha | holocene: you mention ubuntu server because you have given up on it and you want to try installing debian? |
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| 18:36.51 | vbluzmans | Hey, im printing to windows samba shared printer from debian 5, using generic cups driver, printing works but the file names on the server show up "Downlevel Docuemnt..." any ideas how i can have it show the real file names |
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| 18:39.06 | windoof | i found some more libc6-stuff: http://pastebin.com/G5xGSA9H |
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| 18:39.30 | windoof | should i format the /root partition? |
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| 18:41.08 | zophy | my lenny system didn't adjust for the time change |
| 18:41.23 | Vasistha | zophy: do you have ntp installed? |
| 18:41.33 | vtts | zophy, what's your time zone? |
| 18:41.50 | windoof | zophy: there is a time-format without súmmer and winter time |
| 18:42.04 | zophy | ntpd is running |
| 18:42.05 | windoof | zophy: maybe you have ativasted it |
| 18:42.51 | zophy | zdump shows when the change should have happened |
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| 18:43.38 | themill | !tz debug |
| 18:43.38 | dpkg | Please pastebin the output of "md5sum /etc/localtime /usr/share/zoneinfo/`cat /etc/timezone`; echo TZ=$TZ; date; date -u" so we can see what timezone settings you have. |
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| 18:44.29 | zophy | 6540624294b1193e22ed7a15692f2de7 /etc/localtime |
| 18:44.40 | zophy | 6540624294b1193e22ed7a15692f2de7 /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago |
| 18:44.42 | themill | zophy: please use a pastebin |
| 18:45.03 | abrotman | windoof: uh .. what are you doing ? |
| 18:45.11 | zophy | i didn't pay the bill for my pastebin |
| 18:45.24 | windoof | abrotman: what do you mean? |
| 18:45.35 | windoof | abrotman: did i something wrong? |
| 18:45.42 | zophy | TZ= |
| 18:45.46 | zophy | hmm.. |
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| 18:46.44 | zophy | Mon Nov 8 13:45:30 CST 2010 |
| 18:47.38 | phw | Is there a way to emulate a bluetooth keyboard using linux? I want to type on a bluetooth device without purchasing a bluetooth keyboard. |
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| 18:48.03 | zophy | Mon Nov 8 19:45:30 UTC 2010 |
| 18:48.45 | themill | zophy: so the issue isn't that the tz didn't change but that you have an incorrect UTC time on that machine. (And next time, please just stick it all in a pastebin, it's so much easier) |
| 18:48.50 | abrotman | windoof: is the current install not lenny ? |
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| 18:49.27 | windoof | abrotman: i put the netinstall stable on the stick |
| 18:49.35 | windoof | i'm not sure which it is |
| 18:49.38 | abrotman | windoof: but where did the other libc6 come from? |
| 18:49.43 | windoof | abrotman: it's from unetbootin |
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| 18:49.58 | windoof | abrotman: there was a linux installed before |
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| 18:53.49 | BuggerMe | How can I test if a package is install and return a result code if the package is/isn't installed? |
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| 18:54.23 | themill | dpkg: tell BuggerMe about installed test |
| 18:55.02 | themill | BuggerMe: note dpkg's warning that "installed" vs "not installed" isn't as clear a difference as you would perhaps want for many scripting applications. |
| 18:56.25 | zophy | themill, tnx, i set the utc time |
| 18:57.13 | vtts | BuggerMe, could try something like "dpkg -l package_name | grep -c ^ii" |
| 18:57.30 | dkr | BuggerMe: dpkg -l psmisc > & /dev/null && echo installed |
| 18:58.03 | dkr | || not |
| 18:58.23 | themill | dkr: dpkg -l is not reliable for this |
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| 18:58.56 | themill | vtts: that would miss packages put on hold. |
| 18:59.17 | themill | (there's a reason that this has been thought through and fed to dpkg bot) |
| 18:59.26 | dkr | I tried aptitude search ~i first but it doesn't give a nicer return code. heh |
| 18:59.53 | Vasistha | zophy: invoke-rc.d ntp restart # worked for me yesterday |
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| 19:00.34 | SethWoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.02 | stew | the above should be ignored |
| 19:01.10 | Vasistha | thanks. |
| 19:01.30 | et | what the heck |
| 19:01.52 | wildc4rd | evenin all |
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| 19:04.25 | do0ob | !hashmismatch |
| 19:04.29 | do0ob | !help |
| 19:04.31 | katsrc | would installing plymouth slow down the boot process? |
| 19:04.36 | do0ob | yea |
| 19:04.44 | do0ob | well not really |
| 19:05.20 | do0ob | katsrc: a tiny bit since it has to be in the initrd thats loaded into memory on startup, but after that it doesn't really effect it much |
| 19:05.48 | do0ob | most of the time the system waits for IO |
| 19:06.39 | katsrc | do0ob: thanks |
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| 19:12.19 | Doublewood | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
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| 19:18.07 | E1Wel1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:18.43 | _____________ | LoRez: what was that |
| 19:18.51 | LoRez | spam |
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| 19:19.02 | niko | _____________: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml ( for mode +r ) |
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| 19:22.07 | do0ob | How do i fix this? http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-dbg_4.6.3-4_amd64.deb: Hash Sum mismatch |
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| 19:26.44 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 19:28.20 | timido | hey can someone help me out with my wireless last night it was working fine, and now i cannot get it to work. it does not respond everytime i try to connect via wireless it says error sic 132 |
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| 19:30.58 | Vasistha | do0ob: maybe removed the cached deb and redownload? |
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| 19:31.14 | jelly | do0ob: first, use a (country) mirror instead of the main site; second, aptitude update ought to fix it |
| 19:31.28 | Vasistha | do0ob: jelly's advice is better |
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| 19:32.26 | jelly | do0ob: http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian seems to work for me |
| 19:32.58 | jelly | !tell do0ob about sources.list |
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| 19:34.56 | doublehp | is brub 0.97-47 patched for GPT ? |
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| 19:36.06 | do0ob | Vasistha: i checked the cache, it was empty, unless it deleted the file after it saw the incorrect has |
| 19:37.03 | hotstew | Hello guys, I'm a longtime Linux user since SuSE 9.0, went to Ubuntu, Mint, Arch. I tried Fedora 14 for the last few days because I have a problem that prevents me from using Arch but I'm unsatisfied. Is Debian for me? :3 |
| 19:37.06 | do0ob | jelly: seems to be working now |
| 19:37.19 | do0ob | hotstew: try it and see |
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| 19:38.02 | hotstew | I prefer LXDE, little preinstalled software but need NetworkManager for my hsdpa usb stick internet connection. |
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| 19:38.35 | Vasistha | hotstew: if you like a bleeding edge system then probably not. If you want stability and easy maintenance, and don't mind slightly out-of-date packages, debian is great. If you're good with debian, you can run a testing system. Since squeeze is frozen, it's a good bet right now. |
| 19:39.01 | do0ob | Vasistha: hang on a sec, debian sid is bleeding edge |
| 19:39.20 | do0ob | and debian experimental is even more so |
| 19:39.22 | Vasistha | do0ob: yes, but maybe not the best idea for someone who has not used debian before |
| 19:39.24 | hotstew | hmm, does Debian come with networkmanager and a window manager bundled? |
| 19:40.01 | dougmencken | hotstew: yeah |
| 19:40.37 | hotstew | I'm not that much about bleeding edge, but I like a system where I can configure stuff directly, a neat package manager, and a rolling release. |
| 19:40.38 | Vasistha | hotstew: it can. I prefer wicd myself, which is also available. I think the default wm is still gnome, but you can also get a kde version, and I think there's a different lightweight wm version available too. We usually recommend the netboot cd |
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| 19:40.57 | Vasistha | hotstew: rolling release this is not |
| 19:41.06 | hotstew | no? oO |
| 19:41.14 | Vasistha | hotstew: ...unless you go for testing |
| 19:41.16 | hotstew | And you speak like Yoda. XD |
| 19:41.29 | Vasistha | !testing |
| 19:41.29 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 19:41.40 | hotstew | so, Mint Debian is based on testing? |
| 19:41.44 | Vasistha | probably |
| 19:43.17 | hotstew | Today, I installed nvidia drivers on Fedora and it didn't autoinstall the kernel module...I was like, really? |
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| 19:45.20 | stew | hotstew: debian goes one step further by not including either |
| 19:45.49 | zinx | hotstew: huh? |
| 19:45.53 | zinx | erh, stew |
| 19:45.59 | zinx | stew: either what? |
| 19:46.15 | stew | zinx: does debian include nvidia drivers that require a kernel module? |
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| 19:46.18 | zinx | stew: it includes the drivers and a dkms package for the kernel module, so it does auto-build |
| 19:46.21 | hotstew | not even in the repo? |
| 19:46.34 | zinx | stew: i'm using the debian packages right now, in fact. but i should mention i use sid. |
| 19:46.49 | stew | zinx: what is the name of the dkms package? |
| 19:46.59 | zinx | Section: non-free/x11 |
| 19:47.04 | stew | zinx: exactly |
| 19:47.07 | stew | zinx: so not in debian |
| 19:47.09 | zinx | nvidia-kernel-dkms - NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source |
| 19:47.52 | zinx | stew: uhm, non-free is just stuff that doesn't mean the DFSG |
| 19:47.57 | zinx | meet |
| 19:48.02 | stew | hotstew: perhaps in the non-free repository, but not in debian. but still no, you'd find the installation similar to fedora probably where the kernel module is not going to be included automatically, you'd have to compile it yourself |
| 19:48.03 | zinx | stew: not stuff that isn't "in" Debian |
| 19:48.16 | stew | zinx: its not in debian because it doesn't meet the DFSG |
| 19:48.22 | stew | zinx: its explicitly not part of debian |
| 19:48.53 | zinx | stew: ... |
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| 19:49.09 | franki^ | !main |
| 19:49.20 | zinx | stew: we have a very different concept of what Debian is, apparently, and I do not think we can reconcile that, so we should stop arguing about it. |
| 19:49.37 | franki^ | Hmph, but stew is right, only stuff in main is really "in" Debian |
| 19:49.58 | stew | zinx: yeah, i'm going by constitutionally defined defintion, which is the "debian social contract" |
| 19:50.06 | stew | http://www.debian.org/social_contract |
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| 19:50.38 | zinx | stew: and I'm considering the entire Debian community, as that's the practical aspect that matters. |
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| 19:50.49 | zinx | (in this instance) |
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| 19:51.58 | stew | zinx: of course. read part 5 |
| 19:52.06 | zinx | but beyond that, i have a hard time separating non-free from Debian when it's officially tracked and most of the official repositories have it :/ |
| 19:52.36 | zinx | stew: there is what people say, and there is what people do :D |
| 19:53.30 | katsrc | is firefox called iceweasel due to mozilla's trade mark of the name? |
| 19:53.46 | franki^ | !iceweasel |
| 19:53.46 | dpkg | Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces it in Debian as of Etch. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. Use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel |
| 19:53.56 | franki^ | !why Iceweasel |
| 19:53.57 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 19:53.59 | stew | katsrc: yes, mozilla has explicitly said that debian is no longer allowed to use the firefox trademark |
| 19:54.00 | hotstew | free non-free, I'm pragmatic :P |
| 19:54.24 | katsrc | stew: why is that so |
| 19:54.30 | doublehp | what's the command to talk to all shells ? isn't it wall ? |
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| 19:54.58 | hotstew | wall? isn't that command from when I used telnet? |
| 19:55.03 | stew | katsrc: they don't want us to be able to make changes to it like security fixes or to remove the non-free logos and still call it firefox |
| 19:55.18 | stew | katsrc: at least that is what they have told us. they are the ones to ask though |
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| 19:56.08 | hotstew | Sorry guys, I think I'll for something else. Thanks for your answers though. |
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| 19:56.16 | hotstew | +look |
| 19:57.21 | katsrc | thanks for the info stew |
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| 20:04.13 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 20:04.22 | Posterdati | please how can I configure floppy under kde4? Tx |
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| 20:04.58 | abrotman | configure floppy? |
| 20:05.22 | Posterdati | abrotman: yes, there's no icon to access the floppy device |
| 20:05.34 | b0nghitter | anyone have experience with adobe flash media server on debian? |
| 20:05.36 | abrotman | are you in the floppy group ? |
| 20:05.44 | Posterdati | abrotman: yes |
| 20:05.47 | abrotman | Posterdati: is there a floppy in the drive? |
| 20:05.57 | Posterdati | abrotman: yes |
| 20:06.04 | et | Posterdati: have you been in the floppy group when you logged in? |
| 20:06.20 | Posterdati | et: yes |
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| 20:06.49 | cafaro_ | Hi, I am running Squeeze on my laptop, and I get little blue stripes on my screen, I also get this in single-user mode. What could be the issue? |
| 20:07.13 | cafaro_ | I didn't got this, when I ran Lenny. |
| 20:07.37 | Posterdati | abrotman: is there an icon under kickoff menu, but clicking on it won't do anything |
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| 20:09.09 | doublehp | which command to get details about a partition ? size, name, label, type ... |
| 20:09.20 | somiaj | cafaro_: if it isn't hardware, sounds like a video driver, what video driver are you using |
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| 20:11.07 | cafaro_ | somiaj: It's not a hardware prob, because I everything works fine in Windows. I have a Radeon Mobility HD3650, and I use the opensource radeon driver. But I don't think that is the issue, because I also get little stripes when I don't run X... |
| 20:12.41 | somiaj | cafaro_: do you use framebuffers? I'd disable them if so |
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| 20:17.29 | cafaro_ | somiaj: how can I check that? |
| 20:18.36 | somiaj | cafaro_: its a kernel module that gives you higher resolutions in consoles -- you can send the kernel a paramter to disable it I belive (I just don't use framebuffers myself in my custom kernels) |
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| 20:20.12 | somiaj | but that is the only thing I could think of could be causing it -- have you tried installing another kernel cafaro_ ? |
| 20:20.20 | cafaro_ | somiaj: well, the console text is smaller (compared to Lenny), so I think I do use framebuffers, I'll search for a parameter then |
| 20:20.34 | cafaro_ | somiaj: nope |
| 20:21.38 | somiaj | yea the framebuffers can sometimes cause strange things, look into disabling it -- sorry I don't have the kernel paramater you need off the top of my head and to lazy to look it up for you |
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| 20:22.15 | cafaro_ | "vga=normal nomodeset" |
| 20:22.29 | cafaro_ | Let me try that -- brb |
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| 20:27.03 | timido | hey i have a question how come i cannot connect to my wireless. using the command line. but for example using gnome or xfce it does connect with the scripts they used |
| 20:27.10 | timido | but for example when i try to connect via fluxbox. |
| 20:27.44 | timido | i disable the /etc/init.d/network-manager and i put stop; and then i try with iwconfig wlan0 essid name and then iwconfig wlan0 key key and then dhclient wlan0 and nothing happens. any help? |
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| 20:28.11 | somiaj | timido: look in /etc/network/interfaces -- does it have the info you need in there? |
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| 20:30.42 | Vasistha | timido: I believe that if you run iwconfig with no params, it will tell you the status of the connection |
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| 20:33.26 | Posterdati | abrotman: ? |
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| 20:33.39 | abrotman | Posterdati: can you access it from the CLI ? |
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| 20:34.57 | Posterdati | abrotman: wait |
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| 20:35.21 | Posterdati | abrotman: it is mounted on /media/disk-1 |
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| 20:37.49 | dulei | hola! |
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| 21:00.05 | Tametomo | I'm wanting to experiment with bootchart2 in sid, but using GRUB2 and following the instructions that I've seen for getting it going, I haven't had much luck (bootchart: no initrd used; starting) |
| 21:02.00 | Tametomo | Any suggestions on some tweaks to try? I'm editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly to do the testing, since I don't want to make testing permanent (otherwise, I would follow the instructions to not edit it. ;) Once I get my profiling, I basically want it overridden with the normal generated boot file) |
| 21:02.54 | Tametomo | This isn't because my booting's slow at all (it's rather fast as-is). I mainly just want to see if there are some further adjustments that could be made to improve bootup times. |
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| 21:04.33 | slowness | Hi. Could some help me? I'm using sound card snd-hda-intel, all kernel modules are loaded, I did amixer set (Master|PCM) 100% unmute, but still I can't get sound working. |
| 21:05.42 | Tametomo | What sort of card do you have (do you know)? If you don't, find out using lshw. |
| 21:06.57 | slowness | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) |
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| 21:11.30 | Tametomo | Could be wrong on this, but it seems like you should be trying the acer model in /etc/modprobe.d/sound, then rebooting |
| 21:11.36 | Tametomo | The suggestion came from here: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-December/004944.html |
| 21:14.39 | Tametomo | I've usually found that if you're getting no sound, you can sometimes get it to work properly if you play around with the models a bit (especially if it's really new). For instance, a while ago, I dealt with a rather new motherboard that was improperly detected, but was able to fix it by running through potential models and eventually found out that the laptop model worked best for my specific instance. It was later fixed to autodetect properly when I u |
| 21:14.39 | Tametomo | sed a newer alsa version, but it worked as a good stopgap until that happened. |
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| 21:15.56 | Tametomo | Oh, and forget about the reboot, just restart your X session after changing the model. Would be faster anyways (alt+PrintScreen+k). ;) |
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| 21:18.02 | Tametomo | Some more obvious things to check (but which you probably already did, if you're asking) is to make sure that you don't have the sound muted, if you have pulseaudio, ensuring that you're sending audio to the right device (which you could figure out through and fix if necessary pulseaudio volume control) |
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| 21:22.05 | tokam | hi I need help with an usb stick which seems to be damaged. I do not find it as /dev/sdX I have devices as /dev/usbdev5.1_ep81. http://pastebin.com/pfPAeDsf pastebin of lsusb. What can I do to mount the stick? |
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| 21:24.26 | tokam | the stick is not listed as sda sdb sdc or sth like this. |
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| 21:26.04 | frol | hi |
| 21:26.18 | frol | is it the place to ask a question about the debian make? |
| 21:28.30 | Tametomo | tokam: Can't remember off of the top of my head whether testdisk requires for a partition to be mounted, since it's for repairing damaged partitions, but if you don't know, I'd see if you could find your specific device's /dev label through lshw. |
| 21:28.53 | Tametomo | Or, at least, if you can't repair it, it could help you salvage as much as you can. |
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| 21:30.11 | Tametomo | What sort of a question did you have frol? I dunno what it is, but it'd be nice to know specifically what you're wanting to know. |
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| 21:30.45 | Tametomo | s/I dunno what it is/I don't know if it is the place to ask/g |
| 21:31.05 | frol | timw: i'll paste the question |
| 21:31.09 | frol | i have an c++ project |
| 21:31.09 | frol | whith a folder hearder with de hpp files |
| 21:31.09 | frol | a folder src with cpp files |
| 21:31.09 | frol | and a folder bin where i want .o files |
| 21:31.09 | frol | to get the list of obj files i want to make stg like |
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| 21:32.44 | docgnome | any ideas why I can only have one source of audio playing at a time? I'm using pulse audio and i can't have sound from both amarok and a flash video. |
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| 21:34.01 | abrotman | flash uses the OSS stuff still ? |
| 21:34.12 | Tametomo | Try using pulseaudio volume control. You could have multiple streams going, but not sending it to the right output. |
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| 21:34.55 | Tametomo | The package is pavucontrol |
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| 21:35.55 | Tametomo | I haven't encountered a problem with flash playing improperly for quite a while, but I have encountered before having the audio routed to the wrong stream. ;) |
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| 21:36.34 | tokam | Tametomo: http://pastebin.com/Z8SVf96C |
| 21:36.54 | docgnome | only one stream shows up |
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| 21:37.16 | docgnome | should mention that i'm running amd64 so who knows what flash is doing |
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| 21:37.48 | Tametomo | tokam: I don't think that you have to mount the drive to be able to use testdisk on it. That's also the debian package name for it. |
| 21:38.06 | hyper_ch | hi there, is there any reason why cron log is turned off by default in rsyslog.conf ? |
| 21:38.18 | Tametomo | Basically, since you said that the drive is damaged, that's probably what you want to be using anyways. |
| 21:39.47 | Tametomo | docgnome: yeah, that could make a bit of difference, although the streams will only show when they are active. So try playing the flash video and use amarok at the same time. |
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| 21:41.26 | hyper_ch | hmmm, I have a weird but: when I run mdadm --monitor --scan -1 from the shell, I get emails about the degraded arry. However when I run it from cron, I don't get any notification |
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| 21:42.51 | tokam | Tametomo: the issue is the device is not listed as one. |
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| 21:43.27 | Tametomo | Yeah, that just started to dawn on me. Sorry about that. |
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| 21:43.46 | tokam | http://pastebin.com/wpdR5RTf |
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| 21:47.47 | Tametomo | Are you completely sure that the drive isn't completely hosed? Cause from your lsusb log, I don't see anything that screams out that it's a USB flash drive (I see a camera and a mouse detected, but that's it) |
| 21:48.28 | Tametomo | s/that it's a/that there's a/g |
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| 21:51.10 | tokam | a/g? http://michelle.webhoster.ag/poplogin/web1426p9/email_attach.php?mid=9467&pid=2&uniq=&inline=1&folder=INBOX |
| 21:51.15 | tokam | whats this, can you see it? |
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| 21:52.06 | docgnome | Tametomo: aye, i was doing that and only see one stream |
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| 21:52.12 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 21:52.34 | lenswipe | what are your thoughts on downloading squeeze and putting it on a small partition to see if it solves any of my driver problems? |
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| 21:54.21 | Tametomo | lenswipe: depends. Sid's fairly stable at the moment, since they're trying to get it to a releasable state, but that doesn't mean that things won't break. Willing to risk it (or are knowledgeable about how to avoid breaks that you could dodge them, if they happen)? |
| 21:55.05 | tokam | http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9610/picturej.jpg |
| 21:55.22 | Tametomo | For instance, a week or two ago for me, a libfm update made pcmanfm unusable for me, but that was my fault for installing it, since I should have known better that that might happen. |
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| 21:55.40 | Tametomo | That's been addressed now, but that's an example of things that happen every now and then when you use sid. |
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| 21:56.39 | lenswipe | Tametomo, well the thing is, i have stable(ish) lenny on the machine so if squeeze doesnt work out ill just wipe the partition again and re-allocate it back to lenny |
| 21:56.41 | lenswipe | i can do that right? |
| 21:56.45 | tokam | Tametomo: did you have a look at the picture, any suggestion for me? |
| 21:57.15 | Tametomo | tokam: I'm no expert, but I'd say that looks like the device is hosed. Maybe someone else will know a bit more as to whether it actually is or not. |
| 21:57.27 | Tametomo | can't say I've ever fixed anything that's reached that point. |
| 21:58.23 | Tametomo | lenswipe: Fairly sure you can. Just saying that you should be prepared for breakage if you use sid, even if it's ridiculously stable at this point. ;) |
| 21:58.51 | Tametomo | I tend to like to have apt-listbugs installed to keep track of bugs for packages that I don't directly watch. |
| 21:59.42 | Tametomo | That helps keep you from screwing things up too much, so long as you make sure that the new packages you install are old enough to get any grave bugs reported. |
| 22:00.54 | Tametomo | Besides, I could be wrong, but when I looked at the release critical bugs today, it looked like Squeeze might be getting fairly close to release. I'd think it'd be out before christmas, but I'm not a Debian dev. |
| 22:02.36 | tokam | Tametomo: my friend got the device using windows :D lol |
| 22:03.14 | hyper_ch | hmmm, is there any reason why /sbin is not in cron's default include path? |
| 22:03.15 | Tametomo | Ah, alright |
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| 22:06.57 | lenswipe | sid != squeeze |
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| 22:09.57 | docgnome | Tametomo: hrm... a stream doesn't show up for flash when it is playing so i bet it as abrotman suggested that flash is using oss and the two are fighting |
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| 22:16.49 | rahsputin | hi. can i install this package (for ia64) : http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libu/libunwind/libunwind7_0.98.5-8_ia64.deb to i386 ? |
| 22:17.04 | qq- | no |
| 22:18.49 | qq- | , versions libunwind7 |
| 22:18.50 | judd | Package libunwind7 on i386 -- sid: 0.99-0.2; squeeze: 0.99-0.2 |
| 22:19.21 | rahsputin | qq-: but the Package tcl8.5 depends on libgcc1 <-- which depends on libunwind7 |
| 22:19.41 | rahsputin | judd: stable |
| 22:19.59 | qq- | , depends libgcc1 |
| 22:20.00 | judd | Package libgcc1 -- depends: gcc-4.3-base (= 4.3.2-1.1), libc6 (>= 2.7-1). |
| 22:20.19 | rahsputin | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libgcc1 |
| 22:23.08 | Vesperto | Booting either normal or single-user kernels (or even memtest) suddenly gives me (a friend rather) an "error unknown command initrd" after a power out. Any suggestions? |
| 22:23.55 | rahsputin | so i can install libgcc1 (without apt etc.) on i386 without the libunwind7 package and have no dependency issue ? |
| 22:24.27 | qq- | install it with aptitude |
| 22:24.48 | rahsputin | qq-: thats the point, thats not what i want to do |
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| 22:25.26 | qq- | rahsputin, why ? |
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| 22:27.36 | rahsputin | qq-: cause i am making a package that installs tcl, tk and ding . |
| 22:28.54 | rahsputin | qq-: without aptitude, apt-get nor dpkg |
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| 22:29.20 | rahsputin | but using .deb files |
| 22:29.23 | Vesperto | Anyone? |
| 22:30.35 | stew | rahsputin: why are you looking at ia64 packages? do you actually have an itanium2? |
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| 22:31.21 | rahsputin | because the debian site: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libgcc1 says depends on libunwind7 |
| 22:31.49 | stew | rahsputin: ia64 is the arch or instruction set that the package is compiled for. you don't have a processor that supports this instruction set |
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| 22:32.37 | stew | rahsputin: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 22:32.46 | stew | rahsputin: that will give you instructions on how to compile libunwind7 for lenny |
| 22:32.58 | rahsputin | stew: so it will not depend on libunwind7 your saying |
| 22:33.08 | stew | rahsputin: that's not at all what i'm saying |
| 22:33.31 | stew | rahsputin: i'm saying firstly that you are looking at a package for a completely different architecture. |
| 22:33.46 | stew | rahsputin: i'm also saying that if you want to install a package from another release, you should be backporting it |
| 22:34.11 | stew | rahsputin: libunwind7_0.98.5-8_ia64.deb, that ia64 part means this is not for you |
| 22:34.28 | lenswipe | do you guys think its fair to say that linux is one giant bootable API? |
| 22:34.33 | stew | rahsputin: you'd want one that said i386, HOWEVER that one will still not be right for lenny, you'd want to recompile it for lenny |
| 22:34.34 | rahsputin | stew: thank you ;-) |
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| 23:06.30 | abrotman | cringes |
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| 23:28.48 | Guest99282 | I forgot my password for my username on debian ( not the root account ) |
| 23:29.16 | meder | login as root and change it? |
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| 23:29.38 | meder | , Guest99282 |
| 23:29.49 | Guest99282 | n/m!!! |
| 23:29.53 | Guest99282 | I just thought of it. |
| 23:29.56 | meder | lol |
| 23:29.56 | Guest99282 | XD |
| 23:29.58 | meder | cool |
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