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| 00:04.12 | Kaizen | how do i install openjdk6 package without installing all the fonts and x stuff i don't need? |
| 00:04.37 | stew | Kaizen: try openjdk-6-jre-headless |
| 00:04.55 | stew | Kaizen: well depending on if you need jdk or jre |
| 00:06.39 | Kaizen | hmm yeah that doesn't work either |
| 00:07.09 | stew | Kaizen: in what way? |
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| 00:07.26 | Kaizen | it tries to install 200MB of fonts and x junk |
| 00:07.30 | themill | Kaizen: it might help if you were to pastebin the output of your aptitude run rather than hoping that we guess |
| 00:07.43 | Kaizen | sorry i'll do that |
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| 00:08.36 | km | what is snmap trap oid and how does it works? |
| 00:08.49 | Kaizen | http://pastebin.ca/1985845 |
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| 00:09.50 | themill | Kaizen: try installing without recommended packages being enabled (/msg dpkg apt recommends). |
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| 00:12.52 | Kaizen | that worked, thanks just need a -R switch |
| 00:13.18 | themill | excellent. happy hunting. |
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| 00:26.48 | teonanacatl | hi |
| 00:27.26 | teonanacatl | i installed apache2, but the init-script is missing |
| 00:27.40 | teonanacatl | i removed and reinstalled it already, but it doesn't help |
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| 00:29.20 | Bushmills | init script is provided by apache2.2-common |
| 00:29.39 | dondelelcaro | !tell teonanacatl -about confmiss |
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| 00:35.12 | kisuke | how does one edit text from CLI? |
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| 00:35.37 | paradigm | kisuke: there's a number of options |
| 00:35.53 | kisuke | paradigm: stock? |
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| 00:36.00 | capitan | kisuke, there's a ton of editors... for the unfamiliar, nano is probably the easiest to use |
| 00:36.03 | paradigm | I think nano comes installed with Debian by default |
| 00:36.16 | kisuke | thank you thats what i needed |
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| 00:36.51 | yagoo | capitan, i disagree.. the editor easiest to use is mcedit |
| 00:36.54 | yagoo | :p |
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| 00:37.16 | yagoo | always does aptitude install mc |
| 00:37.27 | capitan | yagoo, never tried it... to each his own ;) |
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| 00:37.47 | L-Chymera | hi guys, how do I use mplayer to open a folder dvd? like with lots of .VOB files inside |
| 00:38.40 | dondelelcaro | you should eventually learn a real editor, like vim or emacs, though. |
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| 00:38.58 | paradigm | dondelelcaro: let him use nano for now |
| 00:39.01 | paradigm | don't scare him away quiteyet |
| 00:39.14 | paradigm | L-Chymera: mplayer dvd:// |
| 00:39.17 | paradigm | something like that |
| 00:39.50 | yagoo | capitan, mcedit you never heard of? |
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| 00:40.19 | capitan | yagoo, i'm guessing it's the editor that comes with midnight commander? |
| 00:40.27 | capitan | i vi, therefore i am ;) |
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| 00:40.55 | dondelelcaro | L-Chymera: man mplayer; and read about "Play DVD video from a directory with VOB files" |
| 00:41.06 | trebuchet | What about mg, micrognuemacs, is that a real editor? :( |
| 00:41.34 | paradigm | trebuchet: I think I read somewhere Linus uses a variation of that |
| 00:41.38 | yagoo | capitan, y.. you can call it without starting mc |
| 00:41.52 | trebuchet | paradigm: I use the one from OpenBSD. |
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| 00:42.02 | dondelelcaro | trebuchet: it's a flavor, but there's pretty much no reason to use it anymore |
| 00:42.14 | teonanacatl | thanks, Bushmills & dondelelcaro |
| 00:42.14 | dondelelcaro | you just start up one emacs process, and then use it when you edit other files |
| 00:42.36 | yagoo | capitan, there's another one that looks and feels the same like mcedit for linux.. somewhere online.. |
| 00:44.44 | capitan | hey guys... i just realized that my www-data has a mailbox on my lenny box... with 128MB of mail :( (some from cron, etc)... what's a recommended way to set this up? have all mail that goes to www-data go to my normal user account instead? |
| 00:45.04 | kisuke | ok how do i kill GDM/Xorg without it respqwning instantly? |
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| 00:45.27 | capitan | kisuke, /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 00:45.28 | yagoo | capitan, 128mb of mail doesn't sound realistic |
| 00:45.37 | kisuke | capitan: thanks |
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| 00:45.39 | capitan | yagoo, exactly! :P |
| 00:46.13 | yagoo | kisuke, depends on the distro.. |
| 00:46.25 | yagoo | kisuke, if its in inittab you'd have to change runlevels |
| 00:46.31 | blackshirt | yagoo: i think on debian |
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| 00:53.44 | Monotoko | hi guys...I was wondering if its possible to remove multiple packages (gnome-*) using dpkg? I tried -r but it wont work for purge |
| 00:54.33 | Monotoko | I accidently installed the desktop environment on my server and I'm now trying to remove it all in one sweep |
| 00:55.13 | trebuchet | donatilo: I just loaded up mcedit, and it has more features than mg. I think I will switch, as it has some cool file manager stuff too that jove/jed wouldn't have. :O |
| 00:55.16 | blackshirt | Monotoko: you can use apt-get |
| 00:56.05 | Monotoko | blackshirt, thank you |
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| 00:59.53 | kisuke | hs determinined X.org a nessacary evil |
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| 01:00.21 | kisuke | where in all that is holy is X server definition of you moniter saved? |
| 01:01.27 | mmnicolas | kisuke: I don't think it is saved anywhere these days |
| 01:01.35 | mmnicolas | its autodetected each time |
| 01:01.39 | kisuke | mmnicolas: just peachy |
| 01:01.55 | mmnicolas | create a xorg.conf and specify it |
| 01:01.59 | kisuke | mmnicolas: that dont help if your miniter goes "out of range" |
| 01:02.21 | kisuke | mmnicolas: kk one sec |
| 01:02.28 | mmnicolas | X -configure |
| 01:02.37 | mmnicolas | creates a file |
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| 01:05.39 | kisuke | mmnicolas: yeah, i did that and still out of range... |
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| 01:05.58 | huddson | Get "Can't locate Date/Parse.pm in @INC" in Build. Checked that Date/Parse.pm is in package libtimedate-perl but the latest version of this is installed. What else to check? |
| 01:06.00 | kisuke | mmnicolas: know any way to supress error output at the CLI? |
| 01:06.07 | mmnicolas | you still have to adjust the range if you want a difference |
| 01:06.47 | mmnicolas | only your monitor says that |
| 01:06.51 | rue_house | system-tools-backends: /usr/share/system-tools-backends-2.0/scripts/Utils/Parse.pm |
| 01:06.56 | rue_house | ? |
| 01:07.00 | mmnicolas | probably because it offers modes it cannot really do |
| 01:07.04 | rue_house | erp no |
| 01:07.22 | mmnicolas | kisuke: look for HorizSync and VertRefresh and lower the values |
| 01:07.26 | rue_house | libtimedate-perl: /usr/share/perl5/Date/Parse.pm |
| 01:07.30 | rue_house | hmm |
| 01:07.47 | mmnicolas | kisuke: 60hz should be safe |
| 01:07.52 | kisuke | mmnicolas: as son as i can find them |
| 01:07.54 | rue_house | /usr/share/perl5/Date/Parse.pm <-- I have it |
| 01:08.00 | mmnicolas | kisuke: or create them |
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| 01:08.22 | mmnicolas | kisuke: in the monitor section |
| 01:08.31 | mmnicolas | kisuke: what type of monitor is it ? |
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| 01:08.42 | kisuke | mmnicolas: an old clunky CRT |
| 01:08.43 | rue_house | huddson, you listnen? |
| 01:08.53 | kisuke | 800x600 AFAIK |
| 01:09.31 | huddson | rue_house: yes? |
| 01:09.47 | mmnicolas | kisuke: try HorizSync 50 - 60 |
| 01:09.57 | kisuke | any one know how to supress error (ie devices (dis)connecting) messages at a shell? |
| 01:10.13 | rue_house | huddson, what I said was for you, need I repeat it? |
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| 01:10.26 | mmnicolas | kisuke: like what |
| 01:10.39 | mmnicolas | don't disconnect the devices |
| 01:11.10 | huddson | rue_house: don't understand yr first msg. |
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| 01:11.37 | mmnicolas | kisuke: btw you gotta move that file there: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 01:12.26 | rue_house | you canno find the file? |
| 01:12.30 | kisuke | mmnicolas: like: "USB device at 15 disconnected" "usb2-3 new device found, idVendor=xxxx, idProduct=xxx <newline> new usb device strings... etc,etc, ad ininum |
| 01:12.48 | kisuke | mmnicolas: i have a USB mouse that does not wnat to stay conencted atm |
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| 01:13.03 | mmnicolas | kisuke: you most likely have motherboard power-related issues |
| 01:13.34 | huddson | rue_house: No, Build cannot find the file. |
| 01:13.36 | mmnicolas | or just a bad mouse, replace the mouse |
| 01:14.07 | kisuke | mmnicolas: possibly, but its getting really annoying to have that pop up every 5 seconds |
| 01:14.22 | kisuke | mmnicolas: and the mouse works just fine on windoze |
| 01:14.43 | mmnicolas | its not a popup it only appears in console |
| 01:14.50 | huddson | rue_house: i am using module-assistant. in the Build stage, it flags "Can't locate Date/Parse.pm in @INC" |
| 01:15.22 | mmnicolas | kisuke: its an important message, you should take care of it instead of wanting to ignore it |
| 01:16.02 | kisuke | mmnicolas: i know its important, i dont need to be reminded of it every five secon... one second |
| 01:16.20 | mmnicolas | if you were a usb port, would you like to be messed up with like that ? |
| 01:16.45 | huddson | rue_house: Get "Can't locate Date/Parse.pm in @INC" in Build.Hv checked that Date/Parse.pm is in package libtimedate-perl but the latest version of this is installed. Why is the error flagged? |
| 01:17.02 | kisuke | mmnicolas: i would listen to root, and root at this point is telling me to STFU damnit! |
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| 01:18.45 | mmnicolas | kisuke: i guess you can take a look at the syslog config files maybe |
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| 01:19.38 | mmnicolas | kisuke: I'm pretty sure something pipes to /dev/console in there |
| 01:20.09 | keastes | mmnicolas: one sec i need to ghost my self |
| 01:20.24 | mmnicolas | but then it'll disable ALL the messages |
| 01:21.09 | kisuke | mmnicolas: ok im pretty sure i missed something, last message i have is me tellimg you what id do if i was a USB port. |
| 01:21.46 | mmnicolas | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.56 | mmnicolas | (syslog config files) |
| 01:21.56 | kisuke | kk |
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| 01:30.06 | mmnicolas | kisuke: so did it fix your screen ? |
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| 01:31.13 | kisuke | mmnicolas: "Fatal server error: no screens found |
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| 01:47.15 | kisuke | shutdown needs an additional switch , shutdown now DAMNIT |
| 01:48.54 | stew | kisuke: shutdown will take "now" as an argument |
| 01:49.08 | hell_razer | offtop, but is useable mint-debian roling? |
| 01:49.22 | abrotman | hell_razer: ask the mint people .. this isn't a channel for that |
| 01:49.25 | kisuke | stew: i know, the damnit is the important part |
| 01:49.43 | stew | kisuke: "shutdown now damnit" will work |
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| 01:51.58 | dvs | What about "shutdown or shutup"? |
| 01:52.10 | doubleukay | kisuke: i like "echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger" :) |
| 01:52.17 | Big_Brother | Hell_razer: sudo shutdown -h 0 |
| 01:52.17 | kisuke | stew: i noticed that |
| 01:52.51 | hell_razer | Big_Brother: i know how to use shutdown) u have missed... |
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| 02:09.54 | Big_Brother | Hell_razer: just wack the power button. |
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| 02:12.36 | Bop | any samba client for GTK ? |
| 02:12.43 | Bop | GUI maybe ? |
| 02:13.10 | hell_razer | Bop: nautilus supports it |
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| 02:13.25 | Bop | Xfce here |
| 02:13.36 | hell_razer | thunar too |
| 02:13.37 | Bop | so , thunar |
| 02:13.40 | Bop | rly ? |
| 02:13.45 | Bop | smbclient dependent ? |
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| 02:13.58 | prgmrchris | man mount |
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| 02:15.41 | rafuch0 | it is possible to setup a raid 10 (0+1) in debian from the installer ? |
| 02:16.13 | rafuch0 | the option is there... but i dont know if is acttually working i use 4 disks |
| 02:16.49 | hell_razer | rafuch0: http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/raid-lvm.php |
| 02:17.10 | rafuch0 | thanks |
| 02:17.21 | hell_razer | for first dont use mboard fake raid |
| 02:19.50 | Bop | hell_razer, is appears me a stop signal when i do smb://192.168.2.250 |
| 02:21.29 | hell_razer | Bop: when i used xfce, i remmeber it forks from box, i havent thunar now |
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| 02:26.49 | karlpinc | rafuch0: You can always do so from the commandline in an alternate console. |
| 02:29.36 | rafuch0 | how karlpinc ? |
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| 02:38.12 | karlpinc | rafuch0: You press Ctrl-Alt-F2 (or maybe 3 or 4, I forget), at least while running the textual installer, and you get a command line. From there you use the command line tools, like mdadm, to do what you want. In your case, you probably just want to use the command line tools to verify that what you want done has been done. You may find that "expert mode" is required to have the installer do raid10. Dunno. Read the install guide. |
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| 02:39.24 | rafuch0 | aha yeah i am looking.. |
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| 02:43.59 | S[h]O[r]T | is there an updated netboot for debian 5.06? all the mirrors seem to dateback to june for those files |
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| 02:49.09 | Lynx_ | What's a good program to tile images with? |
| 02:49.22 | Lynx_ | NOT autostitching |
| 02:49.23 | abrotman | tile? or stitch? |
| 02:49.33 | abrotman | you can just use gimp if you want to place them |
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| 02:50.01 | Lynx_ | tile |
| 02:50.04 | aidan | in a screen, how can I detach and go back to shell? |
| 02:50.14 | Lynx_ | I have 3x4 images that II want to make into one rectangular image |
| 02:50.23 | Lynx_ | is there a program that can do it at the command line, I'm not talking about gimp |
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| 02:50.45 | Lynx_ | Manually doing it with each image is time consuming, especially if you have a large amount of images! |
| 02:51.49 | astm | how can i know if a debian is paravirtualized on xen? |
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| 02:53.51 | doubleukay | "uname -a" usually gives it away |
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| 02:58.25 | jordanm | Lynx_: if anything, it will be part of imagemagick |
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| 02:58.53 | jordanm | or actually, I think picassa can do something like that |
| 02:58.57 | grr | is /var/log/auth.log where I should see ssh logins? |
| 02:59.07 | jordanm | yes |
| 02:59.29 | grr | jordanm: any reason why they would not show up? |
| 03:00.27 | astm | doubleukay: i dont get your point.. the kernel is a domU capable (bigmem) |
| 03:00.47 | jordanm | grr: altered rsyslog configuration? rsyslog not running? installed a different syslog daemon than the default? |
| 03:01.18 | jordanm | grr: rm'ed the file and did not restart rsyslog and ssh? |
| 03:01.24 | doubleukay | astm: ok perhaps i misunderstood. did you mean, given that debian is on xen, you want to find out if it is paravirtualized or hardware virtualized? |
| 03:01.32 | grr | jordanm: new install 15min old. |
| 03:01.37 | astm | but it doesnt mean that is paravirtualized.. |
| 03:01.52 | jordanm | grr: what version of debian? |
| 03:02.00 | grr | jordanm: rsyslog shows running is ps aux |
| 03:02.10 | astm | doubleukay: exactly! |
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| 03:02.14 | grr | 5.06 I think |
| 03:02.26 | doubleukay | ahh. in that case, i have no idea :) |
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| 03:02.33 | iluminator101 | How do i change an existing thunderbird account server type from imap to pop? |
| 03:02.37 | jordanm | grr: is anything being written to it? |
| 03:02.58 | astm | doubleukay: kkkk ok.. thanks.. |
| 03:03.06 | grr | jordanm: yes. would a ssh login say ssh? |
| 03:03.07 | jordanm | iluminator101: account settings -> server settings in icedove |
| 03:03.14 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: You don't need an updated netinstall, it gets everything new from the net. |
| 03:03.58 | iluminator101 | jordanm: server type is blanked out |
| 03:04.01 | jordanm | grr: eg. Nov 8 21:03:09 tesla sshd[31113]: Accepted password for jordan from ::1 port 36122 ssh2 |
| 03:04.04 | S[h]O[r]T | karlpinc not a net install |
| 03:04.05 | S[h]O[r]T | netboot |
| 03:04.13 | S[h]O[r]T | with new linux and intrid.gz |
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| 03:04.45 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: pxeboot? I think that just boots the netinstall. I forget. You need something with a newer kernel for the installer for some reason? |
| 03:04.49 | blackshirt | <S[h]O[r]T: is it automagically updated ?? |
| 03:05.00 | grr | jordanm: nope I don't see anything like that |
| 03:05.09 | S[h]O[r]T | karlpinc, yes ive been waiting forever for an updated release with the latest igb driver which 5.06 has |
| 03:05.11 | jordanm | iluminator101: ah, yes it is. probably need to create a new account and delete the old |
| 03:05.19 | S[h]O[r]T | blackshirt the ones across all the mirrors are still from june |
| 03:05.23 | grr | jordanm: I will try rebooting. sounds dumb but I will. |
| 03:05.26 | jordanm | grr: how are you testing? |
| 03:05.29 | karlpinc | !kmuto |
| 03:05.29 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
| 03:05.56 | grr | jordanm: ssh in from another box. look for auth.log entry in remote box. |
| 03:06.08 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: Dunno if there's a pxeboot, but as I recall you should be able to boot any image you like. Could be wrong. |
| 03:06.20 | S[h]O[r]T | why arent the offical netboot.tar.gz files updated? |
| 03:06.29 | S[h]O[r]T | such as http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ |
| 03:06.49 | S[h]O[r]T | which is linked from the 5.06 release page |
| 03:07.10 | jordanm | grr: what is being written to the file? |
| 03:07.29 | S[h]O[r]T | karlpinc those netboots look even older... |
| 03:07.35 | S[h]O[r]T | @ kmtuo.jp |
| 03:07.39 | jordanm | S[h]O[r]T: looks updated to me |
| 03:07.43 | grr | jordanm: my su root entries |
| 03:08.01 | jordanm | grr: tail -f it while sshing |
| 03:08.15 | grr | jordanm: I will try again. |
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| 03:09.08 | S[h]O[r]T | it was compiled in january. would really rather have the offical netboot for 5.06... |
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| 03:09.35 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: I forget the details. I only go back and look at things every release or so. Sorry. |
| 03:09.37 | grr | jordanm: nothing gets logged. should ordinary logins (non root logins get logged?) |
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| 03:10.03 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: If you need a newer kernel you won't find it in the offical installer. Once it's stable, it's left unchanged. |
| 03:10.26 | jordanm | grr: yes. you have successfully broken something in 15min! |
| 03:10.37 | jordanm | grr: pastebin your /etc/rsyslog.conf file |
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| 03:10.55 | blackshirt | S[h]O[r]T: maybe your links have not been synced, check this http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/ |
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| 03:11.38 | jordanm | those are not official |
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| 03:12.17 | karlpinc | jordanm: Yeah, but nothing offical is updated. |
| 03:12.29 | jordanm | S[h]O[r]T: a 5.0.6 netboot image will offer nothing new. the kernel doesn't offer support for more hardware than 5.0.0 did, so there is no real reason to update it |
| 03:12.35 | jordanm | karlpinc: there is no reason to |
| 03:12.52 | karlpinc | jordanm: I think we're saying the same thing. |
| 03:13.00 | jordanm | it probably got update for say, the bug fixes to r6189, but I wouldn't see any other reason |
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| 03:13.06 | S[h]O[r]T | jordanm installing from a 5.06 disc has updated igb drivers, installign from lets say 5.01 or 5.03 i think? does not |
| 03:13.17 | S[h]O[r]T | i think its the intel 82 something... |
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| 03:13.39 | jordanm | S[h]O[r]T: unlike RHEL, debian does not add hardware support to the same kernel version in stable release |
| 03:14.13 | blackshirt | S[h]O[r]T: on official release |
| 03:15.17 | S[h]O[r]T | I'm pretty sure the change is listed under 5.06 here http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/ChangeLog |
| 03:15.18 | karlpinc | jordanm: They have compiled in additional modules though. Can't say what this does to the version number, but I do know that occasionally the version number in stable gets bumped for some reason (when a backwards incompatibility is introduced for some reason I think.) |
| 03:15.29 | S[h]O[r]T | igb: Add 82576 MAC support (Closes: #522922), backport |
| 03:15.30 | S[h]O[r]T | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.44 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: What is an igb driver? (just curious) |
| 03:16.55 | S[h]O[r]T | its an intel nic driver |
| 03:17.11 | S[h]O[r]T | the driver name is called igb by Intel |
| 03:17.16 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: Ah. Makes it tricky. |
| 03:17.26 | S[h]O[r]T | 82576 is common across lots of supermicro and i think some dell servers |
| 03:17.32 | S[h]O[r]T | been that way since nehalem came out |
| 03:17.40 | S[h]O[r]T | and debian has yet to support it in the installer still now |
| 03:17.54 | S[h]O[r]T | have had to use the squeeze installer or install the module after |
| 03:18.05 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: That's what the kmuto installers are for. |
| 03:18.31 | jordanm | S[h]O[r]T: according to that bug report, the drivers and support already existed, the new pciids just needed to be added |
| 03:18.57 | blackshirt | S[h]O[r]T :maybe you want build your own debian installer |
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| 03:19.09 | S[h]O[r]T | been there...tried that :P. |
| 03:19.13 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: I also seem to recall the ~joeyh link as the place to get updated pxeboot install stuff. |
| 03:19.25 | S[h]O[r]T | id just like to know why there are no new offical netboot installers :\ |
| 03:19.30 | Lynx_ | assholes |
| 03:20.05 | S[h]O[r]T | ive been using the squeeze ones in testing fine (to install lenny) i just figured with 5.06 released they would update those packages as well |
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| 03:20.22 | jordanm | S[h]O[r]T: send an email to debian-boot@lists.debian.org. they are the ones to ask |
| 03:20.34 | S[h]O[r]T | thanks |
| 03:20.36 | S[h]O[r]T | i will do that |
| 03:20.42 | karlpinc | S[h]O[r]T: I seem to recall a #debian-boot channel too. |
| 03:20.47 | Lynx_ | What's a good image tiler |
| 03:20.48 | jordanm | its on oftc |
| 03:20.53 | Lynx_ | Or should I waste time writing my own |
| 03:20.56 | jordanm | Lynx_: was picassa no good? |
| 03:21.03 | S[h]O[r]T | i thought there was a debian-installer channel too... |
| 03:21.07 | jordanm | recalls suggesting that 20min ago |
| 03:21.10 | S[h]O[r]T | seems like they have become a ghost town |
| 03:21.16 | Lynx_ | oh |
| 03:21.17 | Lynx_ | didn't see it |
| 03:21.23 | jordanm | S[h]O[r]T: the wiki says that is debian-boot |
| 03:21.25 | Lynx_ | I did it in gimp by the time you answered |
| 03:21.36 | S[h]O[r]T | empty :P |
| 03:21.37 | jordanm | "The debian-boot mailing list is the main forum for discussion and work on Debian-Installer." |
| 03:21.47 | jordanm | S[h]O[r]T: you are on the wrong server |
| 03:21.54 | S[h]O[r]T | ah |
| 03:21.55 | jordanm | you need to go to the debian irc server, oftc |
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| 03:22.33 | karlpinc | Lynx_: man -k says "montage". Try searching aptitude or debtags. |
| 03:22.55 | Lynx_ | What'sok |
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| 03:23.32 | Lynx_ | is there a way top have imagemagick/montage use 24-bit only? It scales it down to 16-bit |
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| 03:24.16 | karlpinc | Lynx_: Dunno. imagemagick seems to be able to do everything. There real docs are annoyingly in html, iirc. |
| 03:24.44 | Lynx_ | it's weird, when I use the windows version, it only seems to convert from 24-bit to 16-bit, it can't go any higher than 16-bit |
| 03:24.48 | Lynx_ | is there this problem in debian? |
| 03:25.07 | Lynx_ | maybe the author is trying to get windoze users to pay for it |
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| 03:25.16 | karlpinc | Lynx_: Try -depth |
| 03:27.10 | Lynx_ | thanks |
| 03:28.09 | Lynx_ | white spaces in between the images |
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| 03:42.29 | grr | new debian install. no /var/log/auth.log entries for ssh. pls see my paste http://debian.pastebin.com/aACv2QT8 |
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| 03:44.55 | jordanm | grr: looks fine |
| 03:45.10 | jordanm | grr: is it getting dumped to /var/log/messages? |
| 03:45.37 | vsmatck | Anyone have projectM working on squeeze? I got it running but it's not getting any audio to make the visualization look yummy. I got my pulse audio volume control up and the bar for projectM isn't showing any activity. |
| 03:45.39 | jordanm | grr: had you tried restarting the ssh daemon? |
| 03:47.00 | grr | jordanm: nothing ssh in messages. whats the quick way to restart ssh daemon |
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| 03:47.21 | jordanm | grr: invoke-rc.d ssh restart |
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| 03:47.49 | jordanm | im not sure there is a slow way |
| 03:48.07 | grr | :-) |
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| 03:51.47 | Pyre[a] | hello im having problems with apt-get update |
| 03:51.47 | Pyre[a] | Failed to fetch http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-security/dists/lenny/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found |
| 03:52.14 | jordanm | !debian security |
| 03:52.15 | abrotman | JasonWoof: you should probably connect to freenode on port 8001 |
| 03:52.29 | jordanm | !lenny security |
| 03:52.30 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Regularly update your APT index and upgrade (e.g. # aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade) to keep up-to-date on security updates in Lenny. To find out what has changed, ask me about <d-s-a> and <apt-listchanges>. |
| 03:52.39 | blackshirt | Pyre[a]: your repo not contains it .. maybe |
| 03:52.46 | jordanm | Pyre[a]: security repos are not mirrored in the same way |
| 03:53.16 | Pyre[a] | i know i just forgot what to do... new vps again had to fix it |
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| 03:54.10 | Pyre[a] | do i remove this |
| 03:54.11 | Pyre[a] | deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 03:54.27 | jordanm | no |
| 03:54.36 | Pyre[a] | deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main contrib no$ |
| 03:54.41 | grr | jordanm: when I ssh into my other host ssh steve@192.168.1.2 I connect. but the tail -f /var/log/auth.log on that host 192.168.1.2 shows nothing. should I reinstall? :) |
| 03:54.43 | jordanm | yes |
| 03:54.53 | jordanm | grr: no |
| 03:55.04 | Pyre[a] | just paste that line lol |
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| 03:55.28 | abrotman | whoops .. i shouldn't have done that |
| 03:55.45 | Pyre[a] | doesnt like the ftp2 |
| 03:55.50 | Pyre[a] | where can i get the mirrors? |
| 03:56.06 | abrotman | what's wrong with using security.debian.org ? |
| 03:56.26 | Pyre[a] | deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 03:56.26 | Pyre[a] | deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main contrib no$ |
| 03:56.26 | Pyre[a] | deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 03:56.29 | Pyre[a] | so like that? |
| 03:56.37 | abrotman | Pyre[a]: no, remove the second line .. you dn't need it |
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| 03:56.46 | Pyre[a] | i asked that and i was told no |
| 03:56.47 | Pyre[a] | :( |
| 03:56.48 | abrotman | JasonWoof: sorry about that .. |
| 03:57.26 | Pyre[a] | : There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 03:57.27 | Pyre[a] | 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 03:57.27 | Pyre[a] | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 03:58.00 | jordanm | abrotman: told him to use a different port? |
| 03:58.00 | jordanm | !mirrors |
| 03:58.00 | jordanm | !mirror |
| 03:58.00 | jordanm | common dpkg! |
| 03:58.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
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| 03:58.14 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 03:58.37 | jordanm | uhh, did I have a paste fail that I missed? |
| 03:58.38 | Pyre[a] | what i do with for that pubkey error? |
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| 03:58.48 | abrotman | jordanm: you just went too fast |
| 03:59.03 | jordanm | abrotman: 3 lines in 2mins according to my client |
| 03:59.05 | abrotman | waves |
| 03:59.10 | abrotman | jordanm: the bot might have been lagging |
| 03:59.19 | jordanm | must have been |
| 04:01.35 | Pyre[a] | what i do with for that pubkey error? |
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| 04:02.01 | jordanm | run aptitude update again, like it probably told you to do |
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| 04:02.09 | Pyre[a] | been trying that |
| 04:02.22 | Pyre[a] | same thing |
| 04:02.28 | Pyre[a] | GPG error: http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 04:02.36 | blackshirt | Pyre[a]: try update again |
| 04:02.50 | Pyre[a] | okay 20th time |
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| 04:03.01 | Pyre[a] | same error |
| 04:03.06 | Pyre[a] | 21st time? |
| 04:03.07 | nsadmin | and you installed debian-archive-keyring AND THEN ran update again AFTER THAT? |
| 04:03.33 | Pyre[a] | no one told me :( |
| 04:03.51 | nsadmin | but the message aptitude gave may have |
| 04:03.59 | nsadmin | anyway, did it work? |
| 04:04.12 | Pyre[a] | ya that worked :) |
| 04:04.14 | blackshirt | Pyre[a]: likes nsadmin says |
| 04:04.16 | jordanm | I don't think it does, but its Priority: Important, so there is no reason he should not already have it |
| 04:04.18 | Pyre[a] | needs to figure out something before bed |
| 04:04.23 | nsadmin | no worries... computers are stupid; we have to help them |
| 04:04.43 | blackshirt | nsadmin: yes .. :) |
| 04:04.48 | jordanm | is betting on some half-debian modified vps image |
| 04:05.09 | nsadmin | snakeeyes! the loser! |
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| 04:16.22 | tpocra | .join #windows |
| 04:16.30 | tpocra | hides in embarassment |
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| 04:17.47 | mordocai | tpocra: Traitor!!!! lol, jk |
| 04:18.19 | tpocra | I don't normally dual-boot, I just really want to play GTA IV =/ |
| 04:19.26 | mordocai | Lol, while some people may act like it, you don't -have- to just use Linux. |
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| 04:24.16 | tpocra | mordocai: 'course not, that's what Debian/kFreeBSD is for! |
| 04:24.27 | Bop | tpocra, have u heard about Gallium3D ? |
| 04:24.32 | mordocai | tpocra: :P, exactly! |
| 04:24.38 | tpocra | Bop: Of course. |
| 04:24.47 | Bop | tpocra, is with working now ? |
| 04:24.58 | tpocra | Bop: I'm sorry,what? |
| 04:25.04 | Bop | is it working now ? |
| 04:25.12 | Bop | Gallium3D |
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| 04:29.23 | iluminator101 | how do go back screen i was on after i press ctrl alt f1 |
| 04:30.01 | mordocai | iluminator101: Should be ALT+F7 |
| 04:30.12 | Bop | ctrl alt f7 |
| 04:30.30 | tpocra | Bop: It depends on your make and model video card |
| 04:30.53 | tpocra | Bop: If you have an older ATI-brand card, then yes it is working and even performs better than classic Mesa. |
| 04:31.20 | iluminator101 | super both commands work |
| 04:32.04 | iluminator101 | actually i was wrong only ctrl alt f7 works |
| 04:32.05 | mordocai | iluminator101: Yeah, technically you only need the CTRL if you are on a GUI screen. However, it will just ignore the CTRL if you use it on a text console, so it doesn't really matter. |
| 04:32.16 | mordocai | iluminator101: That's wierd, it should work with just alt |
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| 04:32.37 | mordocai | work for me anyways... |
| 04:32.44 | sanmarcos | when a new configuration file comes in when I do upgrade, I get the prompt to do y/n/diff. I want to do the diff by myself |
| 04:32.54 | sanmarcos | give me the two files and I will merge them, how do I do that? |
| 04:33.04 | iluminator101 | alt + f7 works too |
| 04:33.09 | iluminator101 | thanks guys |
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| 04:33.50 | ftzdomino_ | sanmarcos: hit z |
| 04:34.00 | sanmarcos | and then what?, is there a guide for this somewhere? |
| 04:34.32 | iluminator101 | on thunderbird how do you just download today's only email for a new setup? |
| 04:35.14 | nsadmin | sanmarcos; you can look at the diff, then edit the file yourself right then or later |
| 04:35.31 | nsadmin | you don't have to look at the diff, but it's there |
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| 04:35.43 | sanmarcos | right then? |
| 04:35.50 | sanmarcos | after I go into a shell that is |
| 04:35.57 | nsadmin | this is during the install of a package, right? |
| 04:36.02 | sanmarcos | the diff cals $PAGER |
| 04:36.04 | sanmarcos | yes, during upgade |
| 04:36.23 | sanmarcos | ..Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.. |
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| 04:37.46 | nsadmin | some $PAGERs can output to a file, or you can keep both the existing config and the new config and diff them later, then edit (and at that point you may or may not even need the diff) |
| 04:38.08 | nsadmin | just saying, you have a bunch of choices |
| 04:38.31 | sanmarcos | ill just background and edit in vim |
| 04:38.39 | sanmarcos | the new file is .dpkg-new. I just save to the real one right? |
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| 04:40.19 | sanmarcos | okay after I am doing I do N, keep currenetly installed |
| 04:40.30 | trebuchet | Is there a wikipedia list or comparison of various nix pagers? |
| 04:40.56 | sanmarcos | trebuchet: vimpager seems cool |
| 04:41.01 | sanmarcos | all the features of vim... |
| 04:41.07 | sanmarcos | also, most |
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| 04:42.16 | trebuchet | sanmarcos: I don't really like vim. I'd use some emacs-like thing with C-<whatever> M-<whatever>, I just learned vi/nvi so I could admin different boxes |
| 04:42.54 | mordocai | ducks the impending vim vs. emacs war. |
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| 04:45.19 | homecable | any one use debian testing on servers ? |
| 04:45.30 | sanmarcos | I wouldnt |
| 04:45.38 | sanmarcos | stable and if you are crazy use backports |
| 04:45.51 | homecable | how do u get newer stuff |
| 04:45.52 | blackshirt | homecable: i use testing on my home pc..for daily works |
| 04:45.57 | un214 | anybody got any Xvnc or Xrdp server that supports xrender extension? |
| 04:46.02 | sanmarcos | homecable: backports, what do you need newer? |
| 04:46.08 | homecable | lighttpd |
| 04:46.09 | Dewi | sanmarcos: backports is way, way less crazy than anything else for getting stuff less than 2 yrs old |
| 04:46.14 | sanmarcos | blackshirt: daily != server |
| 04:46.21 | ftzdomino_ | debian stable won't always run on my servers, since they're not old. |
| 04:46.22 | sanmarcos | most stuff in debian stable is fine, just little bit old |
| 04:46.25 | Dewi | homecable: backports |
| 04:46.34 | blackshirt | sanmarcos: yes, i say that.. not servers, you know ?? |
| 04:46.42 | Dewi | sanmarcos: not really |
| 04:47.24 | mee | if you have HD space, just run stable on the box and testing or whatever in a chroot environment or openvz container |
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| 04:47.30 | homecable | like hardend php etc |
| 04:47.41 | homecable | http://joey.mooo.com/phpsysinfo/ >> my atom box |
| 04:47.43 | Dewi | homecable: hardened php? |
| 04:47.47 | mee | heh |
| 04:47.48 | Dewi | homecable: do you mean suhosin? |
| 04:47.52 | homecable | yeah |
| 04:48.04 | homecable | how do use that patch in debian |
| 04:48.13 | Dewi | homecable: it's packaged |
| 04:48.25 | Dewi | homecable: and a newer one's in backports |
| 04:48.31 | nsadmin | homecable: ask you a question... do you want your server to stay up unattended for a year or longer? |
| 04:49.15 | Dewi | mee: do you have any info on setting that up? |
| 04:49.18 | homecable | yeah |
| 04:49.20 | homecable | :P |
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| 04:49.25 | mee | Dewi: sorry, I don't |
| 04:49.34 | Dewi | mee: I would love to try debian in a chroot, I figure debootstrap is involved? |
| 04:49.37 | nsadmin | homecable: is it a remote? |
| 04:49.40 | mee | it'd probably be a project |
| 04:49.41 | homecable | yeah |
| 04:49.57 | homecable | why u ask ? |
| 04:50.01 | mee | I've been meaning to try it, OpenVZ looks super cool |
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| 04:50.23 | Dewi | mee: well, you need a lot more hardware for that |
| 04:50.24 | mee | or whatever they are calling it now LXC |
| 04:50.29 | un214 | yes, debootstrap gets debian in chroot |
| 04:50.40 | Dewi | mee: I prefer xen to openvz which needs yet more hardware |
| 04:50.45 | un214 | cafeful Dewi that you remove all linux-image packages immediately |
| 04:50.52 | Dewi | un214: ? |
| 04:50.53 | mee | yeah VMs require a lot more hardware |
| 04:50.57 | nsadmin | then I'd invite you to consider that the stable branch is more tested and actually put together such that all (or most) packages work together well |
| 04:51.00 | un214 | if you don't the next system upgrade will clobber your bootsector |
| 04:51.07 | mee | because they can't share resources (namely RAM) as nicely |
| 04:51.11 | Dewi | un214: oh in the chroot? I wouldn't let it have root |
| 04:51.22 | un214 | debootstrap won't install w/o root |
| 04:51.38 | un214 | needs chroot system call |
| 04:52.00 | Dewi | un214: obviously. But once inside, I wouldn't think it would need root |
| 04:52.09 | un214 | oh yes it does |
| 04:52.19 | Dewi | un214: still needs it for dpkg? |
| 04:52.19 | un214 | dpkg still requires it |
| 04:52.19 | dpkg | wish i knew, un214 |
| 04:52.28 | Dewi | un214: ah, fair enough I guess. Need to be careful |
| 04:52.39 | nsadmin | homecable: the testing branch is in progress with that, but is not finished yet |
| 04:52.45 | Dewi | un214: it shouldn't ever need a kernel tho right? |
| 04:52.52 | Dewi | un214: I'd just never install one... |
| 04:52.55 | un214 | just remove all linux-image-* packages on site and the upgrade program won't even attempt to upgrade tehm |
| 04:53.02 | un214 | debootstrap installs one by default |
| 04:53.32 | un214 | that's right chroot environ doesn't need a kernel |
| 04:53.41 | nsadmin | this is starting to sound weirder and weirder :) |
| 04:53.49 | nsadmin | are you sure debootstrap uses chroot? |
| 04:53.59 | Rusty1 | un214: nomachine? |
| 04:54.14 | un214 | does uml exist? |
| 04:54.15 | Dewi | nsadmin: yeah, that's how it works. I'd be surprised if there wasn't some way to make it avoid installing kernels and shit tho :/ |
| 04:54.29 | Dewi | nsadmin: but I've been procrastinating figuring it out for years |
| 04:54.45 | Dewi | nsadmin: I want to confine PHP to one |
| 04:54.58 | Dewi | cause I don't trust it, or even suhosin |
| 04:55.05 | un214 | debootstrap is smart enough to not install a bootloader but the next system upgrade isn't so gots to be careful |
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| 04:55.30 | un214 | of course there's also the possabilitiy of not giving it the necessary /dev entries, but that requries more effort |
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| 05:06.14 | flamingspinach | I'm trying to figure out what graphics drivers I should be using for my laptop (squeeze) |
| 05:06.32 | sanmarcos | flamingspinach: does not it just work? |
| 05:06.58 | flamingspinach | lspci tells me my card is called "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X700 (PCIE)", and in actuality it is an ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (which is similar to the Radeon Mobility X700) |
| 05:07.33 | flamingspinach | sanmarcos: it worked all right at first, but 3D performance was slow, so I decided to install fglrx to see if that would help - I followed the instructions here: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 05:07.37 | flamingspinach | now 3D doesn't work at all :) |
| 05:07.52 | flamingspinach | so I thought something must be wrong, and looked around a bit - it seems my card might be too old to be supported by current fglrx |
| 05:08.10 | flamingspinach | but I can't seem to make out, since the pages are all referring to model numbers like R100, R200, ... R700, whatever, but mine says "X700" |
| 05:08.47 | flamingspinach | wikipedia tells me that my card is based on a graphics core whose codename is "RV410", but that's not the same as R400 either... |
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| 05:12.43 | flamingspinach | is there a way to cleanly uninstall fglrx, since it doesn't seem to work? |
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| 05:17.00 | nathwill | good day. i'm using denyhosts' sync option to proactively block bad IP's, but over the last month, it's accumulated in a 7000 line, ~5MB hosts.deny... i'm a little concerned, is there a practical limitation to the size of hosts.deny or any performance degradation that might come up? |
| 05:17.09 | mordocai | flamingspinach: Follow the steps in the wiki, except do them backwards and with the opposite affect. For isntance, revert the changes to the xorg.conf and do a apt-get purge fglrx* |
| 05:18.32 | mordocai | nathwill: Well, yeah, if it gets big enough you will notice a slowdown. However, I don't -think- you'll have to worry about it as the system should cache the file in memory, so that it doesn't have to access it from the hard drive constantly. |
| 05:19.46 | flamingspinach | mordocai: oh, is that all? I'll try... |
| 05:20.05 | mordocai | flamingspinach: It -should- be. I have nvidia though, so i'm not really sure. |
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| 05:21.57 | flamingspinach | mordocai: I don't need to reload the kernel modules, right? That would only have had effect until reboot anyway, in the forwards direction |
| 05:22.39 | mordocai | flamingspinach: Modules happen live. You'll probably need to modprobe -r fglrx (or whatever they call it) and modprobe radeon |
| 05:23.03 | nathwill | thanks mordocai. just getting a bit nervous as the systems got 800MHz and 256M, bit limited resource wise. :) |
| 05:23.28 | mordocai | nathwill: Yeah, it should be fine unless you hit your memory ceiling. It might then cause some slowdown. |
| 05:23.45 | mordocai | nathwill: It's mainly going to be memory speed/capacity and hard drive speed that will be your limiters, i think |
| 05:23.59 | mordocai | flamingspinach: oh, and mordprobe drm |
| 05:24.26 | nathwill | mordocai: good deal. i've been keeping an eye on mem usage and it's not made much of an impact yet. you've confirmed what i suspected. appreciate your help. |
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| 05:24.55 | mordocai | nathwill: No problem. I'd just keep doing what you are doing, and keep an eye on it :P |
| 05:25.26 | mordocai | flamingspinach: bleh, s/mordprobe/modprobe/ |
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| 05:25.36 | nathwill | mordocai, finally coming up on the purge-time i set for removing old bad hosts, so i'm expecting it to stabilize soon enough. |
| 05:25.42 | nathwill | lol |
| 05:26.08 | mordocai | wonders if he has a subconcious ego problem... |
| 05:26.14 | mordocai | :P |
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| 05:26.52 | mordocai | i knew that didn't look right! s/conc/consc/ |
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| 05:33.17 | f00li5h | how do i search the damn factoid robot for things? |
| 05:33.34 | f00li5h | i want it to tell me how to have dpkg discard my configuration of a pacakge and put back the config files/permissions |
| 05:33.43 | f00li5h | broke some permissions for exim |
| 05:33.47 | dondelelcaro | !tell f00li5h -about confmiss |
| 05:34.00 | f00li5h | ah! |
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| 05:34.40 | dondelelcaro | f00li5h: otherwise, /msg dpkg help; see listkeys and listvals |
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| 05:37.44 | sanmarcos | dondelelcaro: donde esta el caro!!! |
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| 05:40.34 | f00li5h | dondelelcaro: list-what now? |
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| 05:44.16 | sanmarcos | f00li5h: list-this!!! |
| 05:45.29 | f00li5h | dondelelcaro: some people might suggest that naming that command "search" would be more easily discoverable |
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| 05:58.32 | ir8 | is there a way not to let apt-get default updates via ipv6 |
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| 05:59.26 | panik | Is 64bit pretty stable? I installed it instead of 32bit, been having minor issues, not sure if some of them were from running 64bit or not |
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| 06:00.44 | franki^ | panik: amd64 images should be just as stable as i386 ones |
| 06:00.48 | ir8 | ?? |
| 06:01.43 | franki^ | I don't think apt does default to IPv6, but I could be wrong... |
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| 06:04.09 | panik | thanks franki, I had a issue with rtorrent crashing, I think it might just be because I had to compile it myself to include XMLRPC |
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| 06:06.49 | jscheel | hello everyone. I need to upgrade to a newer version of imagemagick than what is available in the the apt packages. I'm following these steps to backport a newer version from squeeze: http://serverfault.com/questions/154598/how-do-i-install-imagemagick-6-5-6-on-debian-lenny/154604#154604, but I am getting the error "package libltdl-dev cannot be found" when I try to run build-dep. |
| 06:07.07 | franki^ | panik: Yes, it sounds like you should take that up with the package and not your architecture. :) |
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| 06:07.20 | jscheel | I haven't been able to find much info on this error though. |
| 06:08.18 | sanmarcos | NEXT |
| 06:08.23 | sanmarcos | another satisified customer!! |
| 06:08.28 | simonrvn | jscheel: edit the control file |
| 06:08.58 | simonrvn | apt-cache search ltdl dev |
| 06:09.05 | simonrvn | !search |
| 06:09.05 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
| 06:09.35 | panik | There have been a few crashes as well, just learning about most of it, will most likely reinstall a few times before I get things the way I want to, learning more each time |
| 06:09.47 | simonrvn | more for the commands than anything... ^^^ |
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| 06:10.33 | jscheel | simonrvn: thanks, I'm pretty new to package management in debian. However, it says I'm at the latest version for libltdl3-dev |
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| 06:11.00 | simonrvn | if there isn't a version requirement you should be ok |
| 06:11.12 | simonrvn | just edit the build-dep line |
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| 06:11.54 | simonrvn | !ssb |
| 06:11.54 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add ONLY a <deb-src> line for sid to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 06:12.44 | simonrvn | might be in bdo too. fetch it there if there is a version req. |
| 06:13.00 | jscheel | simonrvn: thanks! |
| 06:13.03 | ir8 | ?? |
| 06:13.20 | simonrvn | ir8: EPARSE |
| 06:14.23 | simonrvn | if it exists in bdo then don't edit build-dep ;) |
| 06:15.06 | simonrvn | !bdo |
| 06:15.06 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
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| 06:15.24 | ir8 | simonrvn: eparse? |
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| 06:18.44 | dondelelcaro | f00li5h: there's a search factoid which would tell you about it if you actually tried to use search |
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| 06:19.07 | ir8 | simonrvn: however ipv6 nuked apt-get? So, i needto disable apt-get from using ipv6 |
| 06:19.11 | ir8 | Bleh |
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| 06:21.42 | chilli0 | Hello, I am rather quite confused. I have my headless server setup. And I just got back from school, and now all of the web interfaces on it are down. I had apache running on port 80 and also Transmission deamon on port 9091. The server is still online, and I am connected to it. I haven't got the wrong IP because I am listening to music of it (shared over my network). So I am confused as to how it would have taken down two different thi |
| 06:21.43 | chilli0 | ngs that are pretty much unrelated. I can ssh into it still. |
| 06:22.33 | jscheel | simonrvn: iamgemagick isn't in bdo, but adding the backports source did the trick for me to backport it myself. Thanks again. |
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| 06:23.27 | simonrvn | ir8: config network to not do it? check its man page perhaps. |
| 06:23.38 | simonrvn | np jscheel |
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| 06:28.07 | chilli0 | Hello, I am rather quite confused. I have my headless server setup. And I just got back from school, and now all of the web interfaces on it are down. I had apache running on port 80 and also Transmission deamon on port 9091. The server is still online, and I am connected to it. I haven't got the wrong IP because I am listening to music of it (shared over my network). So I am confused as to how it would have taken down two different thi |
| 06:28.08 | chilli0 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:31.39 | mordocai | chilli0: Well... restart apache and transmission? I don't know why they would have gone down though. |
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| 06:33.02 | ir8 | simonrvn: well i have native ipv6 support, I have a duel stacked network interface with ipv6 and ipv4 routing. |
| 06:33.44 | rozie | chilli0: did you check web server logs? |
| 06:34.11 | chilli0 | mordocai, rozie, I have been hacked. |
| 06:34.24 | chilli0 | Just had a look at my open ports. How can I see my logs? |
| 06:34.46 | mordocai | chilli0: How do you know you have been hacked? |
| 06:35.44 | chilli0 | mordocai, I had a look at some open ports, and they wern't open yesterday. They are like port 111, and a few others. And also I was talking to some people on another IRC network, and they said he was asking in there ealryer about hacking me. |
| 06:35.45 | chilli0 | So yeha. |
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| 06:36.51 | mordocai | chilli0: Well, check your command history and logs then. You should be able to see everything they've done (if they aren't smart and haven't covered their tracks) |
| 06:37.24 | chilli0 | I try'd history, but that didn't show anything other than what I had done. |
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| 06:47.28 | mordocai | chilli0: Check your /var/log/auth.log for sshd with grep sshd /var/log/auth.log and see if there's any foreign IPs |
| 06:48.53 | chilli0 | Yeah, ive deffently been rooted. |
| 06:50.04 | mordocai | chilli0: Well easiest thing to do would be backup, reinstall, and use different passwords this time. And block all traffic from any wierd ips you found in auth.log, preferably at the router level |
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| 06:50.36 | rkhshm | hi all |
| 06:50.47 | mordocai | chilli0: Oh, and make sure you keep updated, of course :) |
| 06:50.48 | rkhshm | does anyone know how rrqm/wrqm is calculated |
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| 06:52.03 | mordocai | rkhshm: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disk-performance-monitoring-howto.html. It looks like it is "the number of read/write requests merged per a second that were queued to the hard drive." |
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| 06:52.57 | rkhshm | mordocai: yes i know that.. I am after how the code is calculating it... I'm unable to find the source code for it either |
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| 06:56.15 | rkhshm | mordocai: do you think you can help me find info on it |
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| 06:57.40 | chilli0 | mordocai, How do I check apache logs? |
| 06:58.16 | mordocai | rkhshm: Well, I googled and all I could find was what I just quoted you... so i'm not really sure. |
| 06:58.28 | mordocai | chilli0: /var/log/httpd/access_log and /var/log/httpd/error_log |
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| 06:58.56 | vtts | /var/log/apache2/... |
| 06:59.03 | mordocai | chilli0: Errr, apache2 (what vtts said) |
| 06:59.22 | mordocai | vtts: I have to use redhat at work -.-, forgot debian does the sane thing. |
| 06:59.40 | vtts | ;) |
| 07:02.54 | mordocai | vtts: Of course, much better than having to use windows at work -.- |
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| 08:09.43 | prinzdezibel | Hi. Question to sources.list. What does it imply if I omit the last word "non-free" ? |
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| 08:10.34 | lynx | How do I install an Ubuntu PPA file in Debian? |
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| 08:11.06 | Lynx_ | How do I install an Ubuntu PPA file in Debian? |
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| 08:12.32 | Lynx_ | ok |
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| 08:12.34 | Lynx_ | Anyone even here? |
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| 08:14.47 | Lynx_ | I'm talking about chucka lucka lootch threatround |
| 08:14.50 | Lynx_ | /msg |
| 08:14.56 | Lynx_ | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 08:14.57 | Lynx_ | 127.0.1.1 john-nrrpr281tw.westell.com john-nrrpr281tw |
| 08:14.57 | Lynx_ | # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts |
| 08:14.57 | Lynx_ | ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback |
| 08:14.57 | Lynx_ | fe00::0 ip6-localnet |
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| 08:17.05 | Lynx_ | Have they brought libreadline6 as experimental yet? |
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| 08:19.07 | Lynx_ | what does this mean: |
| 08:19.09 | Lynx_ | Package libreadline6 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 08:19.09 | Lynx_ | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 08:19.09 | Lynx_ | is only available from another source |
| 08:19.09 | Lynx_ | E: Package libreadline6 has no installation candidate |
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| 08:19.30 | Lynx_ | Fuckity duck dick diggum |
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| 08:19.48 | Lynx_ | It shits to the penis inside the cum |
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| 08:19.58 | Lynx_ | What watches around the world... go motherfucking cock sucker go |
| 08:20.08 | Lynx_ | I can say swear words all night long because no one is around |
| 08:20.17 | Lynx_ | Fuck bitchasses to shitty fucking hell you nerds |
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| 08:21.19 | Lynx_ | fuckity duck fuck fuckity duck duck LOOK AT FROSTY GO |
| 08:21.24 | Lynx_ | fuckity duck fuck fuckity duck duck OVER THE HILLS OF SNOW! |
| 08:21.35 | Lynx_ | FROZEN DUPCKS AND PENIS FUCKS |
| 08:21.46 | Lynx_ | Shittaly ass diggum |
| 08:21.58 | Lynx_ | Did you know that Shittim is a type of tree that grows in Israel |
| 08:22.04 | Lynx_ | The word "Shittim" is even in the bible |
| 08:22.15 | Lynx_ | so you can say shittim instead of shitting and even be biblically correct |
| 08:22.16 | Lynx_ | Assholes |
| 08:22.17 | rww | umm |
| 08:22.20 | Lynx_ | We're all shitty pissy kids |
| 08:22.26 | kwork | Lynx_, no you are |
| 08:22.28 | Lynx_ | Frozfuckaly |
| 08:22.58 | Lynx_ | If you censor the word shit, people can't talk about the Shittim tree, and also Japanese speakers can't say the romanized version of "shitaku' |
| 08:23.17 | Lynx_ | That's why it's good not to K:Line people |
| 08:23.20 | Lynx_ | if they swear |
| 08:23.23 | Lynx_ | of course, no one is on |
| 08:23.28 | Lynx_ | So fuckitty fuck dag diggum |
| 08:23.30 | Lynx_ | FART |
| 08:23.41 | Lynx_ | WANKERS YOU DICK SUCKING COCKSMOKERS |
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| 08:23.45 | Lynx_ | shit shit shit |
| 08:23.53 | Lynx_ | shitting all the way |
| 08:23.55 | Lynx_ | Oh NOES! |
| 08:23.57 | Lynx_ | an IRC op |
| 08:24.04 | Lynx_ | want to have sex jayne |
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| 08:24.07 | Lynx_ | we can do it in your car |
| 08:24.16 | witchy | hey i heard there was a party going on here |
| 08:24.17 | Lynx_ | hah hah hah haha shitholes |
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| 08:24.31 | witchy | hey |
| 08:24.36 | Lynx_ | when you have anal sex, do you get shit inside your dickhole? |
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| 08:24.46 | witchy | only if your a fag |
| 08:24.51 | witchy | and the aids plugs it up |
| 08:24.52 | jayne | Lynx_: surely you realize this is inappropriate and off-topic |
| 08:24.53 | witchy | so no shit |
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| 08:25.05 | Lynx_ | Have you ever tried farting on someone's jacket, then smelling it right after you farted on it? It smells different than shit. |
| 08:25.14 | Lynx_ | well la dee da jayne |
| 08:25.16 | jayne | witchy: don't make it worse; ignore the people who can't be positive contributors |
| 08:25.19 | Lynx_ | no one is even listening to me |
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| 08:25.26 | witchy | i like nigger cocks in my ass |
| 08:25.28 | witchy | what about you jayne |
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| 08:26.02 | mordocai | thank you jayne. |
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| 08:27.16 | lynx__ | why hasn't it come out yet? What is sid? |
| 08:28.00 | mordocai | !tell lynx__ sid |
| 08:28.10 | lynx__ | it says libreadline6 is a part of sid |
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| 08:29.06 | lynx__ | is sid the latest, not lenny? |
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| 08:29.21 | mordocai | !tell lynx__ -about sid |
| 08:29.29 | lynx__ | I'm not being told about sid by anyone. |
| 08:30.10 | lynx__ | how do I uninstall a .deb file? |
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| 08:30.23 | lynx | how do I uninstall a .deb file? |
| 08:31.10 | Guest14908 | I SAID HOW DO I UNINSTALL A .DEB FILE |
| 08:31.55 | WormFood | you don't |
| 08:32.10 | WormFood | a .deb file contains the packages that are installed. |
| 08:32.25 | WormFood | er...I mean...a .deb is a package, that contains the files that are installed. |
| 08:32.31 | Guest14908 | ok |
| 08:32.36 | Guest14908 | how do I fix a broken package |
| 08:32.59 | WormFood | you can try to reinstall it, if the files are corrupt/damaged/missing or perhaps a reconfigure might do the trick for you |
| 08:33.11 | Guest14908 | how do I find out which package is damaged |
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| 08:33.37 | Guest14908 | how do I find out which package is damaged!' |
| 08:33.38 | WormFood | not sure. I think there is a function in dpkg to check that, but I'm not 100% sure |
| 08:33.58 | WormFood | at the very least, there is a function in dpkg to show you what files a particular package owns. |
| 08:35.02 | Guest14908 | can I use packages from sid from other packages from lenny? |
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| 08:35.53 | WormFood | in general no, but sometimes, it depends on the package...you'll need to go on a case-by-case basis to know for sure (for example, I've used some packages from sid, on testing and stable, but it was just simple scripts, no binaries) |
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| 08:44.49 | kenro | I'm trying to learn 3d modeling. Day or 2 ago, I got a file with names rendered in strange symbols. Not a language! I dunno what it is, but now I can't delete then since the delete routines(?) see nothing to delete. Can anyone help me? |
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| 08:45.13 | jayne | what operating system? |
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| 08:45.25 | kenro | me? |
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| 08:45.40 | jayne | nobody else is asking a question :-) |
| 08:46.42 | jayne | oh, this is #debian still... sorry, I thought I was in a different channel. If you have a graphical file browser, just use that to select the file and delete it. |
| 08:46.44 | kenro | I wouldn't know, sice I just joied. :P I'm using Debian, as the choice of chatroom might suggest. :) |
| 08:47.48 | kenro | jayne: Ad sorry if that sounded snappish. :) |
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| 08:50.06 | kenro | jayne: iNeither dolphin or konq ca delete it. Claims nothing's there. Odd, since they both show it fm. |
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| 08:50.12 | ali3n0 | hi guys. how can I tell there's a new installed kernel but the machine hasn't been rebooted yet? |
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| 08:51.11 | WormFood | ali3n0, look in /boot |
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| 08:52.01 | mordocai | kenro: pastebin the ls -al of the directory where the files are? |
| 08:52.03 | WormFood | kenro, that kinda stuff can be tricky....depending on the number of files, I usually just just do a "rm -i *", and then tell it not to delete all the normal named files |
| 08:52.44 | WormFood | or, move all the normal file names (mv [a-zA-Z0-9]* somewhere_else) and delete what remains |
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| 08:53.37 | kenro | WormFood: interactive delete in console fm... never thought of that. I think I |
| 08:53.44 | ali3n0 | WormFood, what for? I've got one img only: initrd.img-2.6.32-trunk-686. uname says 2.6.32-trunk-686. but sometimes I see aptitude rebuilding that image so I wonder if I have to reboot |
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| 08:53.53 | kenro | 'll try the ls first, though. |
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| 08:56.10 | mordocai | Hmm... that's wierd. All the computers in my house can't reach debian-multimedia.org, but http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/debian-multimedia.org checks out. |
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| 08:56.37 | ali3n0 | mordocai, fine here |
| 08:56.58 | WormFood | mordocai, it sounds like there is a route down between you and dmm...it will probably be back up soon |
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| 08:58.06 | kenro | WormFood: or had I considered using console fm, which worked. Dolphin doesn't show it anymore. Thanks anyway. |
| 08:58.14 | mordocai | http://www.debian-multimedia.org: Name or service not known |
| 08:58.14 | mordocai | Cannot handle "host" cmdline arg `http://www.debian-multimedia.org' on position 1 (argc 1) |
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| 08:58.40 | mordocai | bleh, i was thinking that worked different. Anyways.... |
| 08:58.51 | mordocai | That's my traceroute error |
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| 08:59.18 | WormFood | you don't traceroute a URL, you traceroute a domain name |
| 08:59.25 | kenro | mordecai Thanks anyway. |
| 09:00.11 | mordocai | WormFood: Ah, duh.... |
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| 09:00.32 | llutz | WormFood: a hostname, not domain |
| 09:00.43 | WormFood | true llutz |
| 09:00.59 | mordocai | Well, in any case, it suddenly just came back up... so my debugging won't really work anymore lol |
| 09:01.15 | WormFood | see, I told you it'd be back soon ;) |
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| 09:03.11 | kenro | Anyone with advice on converting 3ds .max files to .dae? They seem easier to work with using OSS. |
| 09:03.35 | kenro | Or should I go to #3d? |
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| 09:04.48 | kenro | IS there a #3d?? |
| 09:05.38 | hydra | kenro: just try man |
| 09:06.10 | WormFood | if there isn't a #3D, then there will be when you join it ;) |
| 09:06.11 | kenro | hydra: For 3d file coversio?? |
| 09:06.38 | hydra | no idea |
| 09:06.44 | hydra | what do you want to do exactly |
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| 09:07.08 | WormFood | he just wants to convert the file to a format that is more easily used with OSS software |
| 09:08.55 | kenro | I want NOT to spend months in blender giving my models clothing, so I dl lots of rigged models. I have several nice 3ds .max files that I ca't use. I need to convert them to something I ca. |
| 09:09.10 | hydra | kenro: google |
| 09:10.24 | kenro | Done it, got source and winfile. Before I go through that trouble, I need to know if there are better ideas. |
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| 09:13.25 | WormFood | kenro, if you're lucky, that source will compile under Linux ;) |
| 09:14.32 | kenro | WormFood: But likely not the first time. I'm ot set up yet for source compile. No devel pkg. |
| 09:15.22 | WormFood | I don't know how much of a programmer you are, but I suspect if you have fair programming skills, you can extract the main conversion function(s) |
| 09:16.22 | kenro | WormFood: Sadly, not much... |
| 09:18.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | isn't there a blender channel? i'd have thought its a better fir for the question |
| 09:18.43 | erez | hey, I want to automate some stuff I do on the terminal, like opening a gnome-terminal tab, performing some actions, changing the terminal title etc. Any good place to read about that? |
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| 09:19.09 | kenro | Kamping_Kaiser: I asked that earlier. Got flippancy. |
| 09:19.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | kenro: bugger |
| 09:19.40 | kenro | heh :) |
| 09:19.48 | hydra | erez: for what? |
| 09:20.17 | kenro | oh well. The scope of this solo project escalates. |
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| 09:21.25 | erez | hydra: everytime I start the machine I go through the same ritual. Open gnome-terminal, cd to x, create 4 more terminal tabs, I want to rename them, su in tab 3 to a different name, launch vim, etc. etc. I want to automate that |
| 09:21.39 | kenro | btw isn't pidgin supposed to have channel search? |
| 09:21.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | erez: you can start by gnome's sessions manager |
| 09:22.50 | hydra | erez: ok, you should try with your bash_profile, screen config and as Kamping_Kaiser is saying, desktop settings. |
| 09:23.09 | hydra | erez: (bash_profile is bash_login bash_logout) |
| 09:23.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | and .xinitrc |
| 09:23.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | if you go that route |
| 09:23.36 | hydra | screen can throw 11 terminals at a time if required |
| 09:23.43 | hydra | and you can move with control+a+num |
| 09:24.49 | hydra | erez: http://pastebin.com/sYP7Am7T |
| 09:24.51 | erez | Kamping_Kaiser: Probably overkill |
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| 09:25.52 | qwd | erez: use screen and edit .screenrc. |
| 09:26.33 | erez | hydra, qwd, Kamping_Kaiser: thanks, I'll do some reading then |
| 09:26.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | erez: gl :) |
| 09:27.00 | erez | cheers, thanks guys |
| 09:27.03 | WormFood | qwd,he did not say he is using screen, but gnome-terminal (what he wants is easy with screen) |
| 09:27.33 | WormFood | erez, if you figure it out, please let me know, because I want to do the same thing too |
| 09:28.35 | qwd | WormFood: if he was using screen there'd be no point in telling him to |
| 09:28.38 | hydra | qwd WormFood http://pastebin.com/sYP7Am7T |
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| 09:34.01 | WormFood | hydra, thanks, but I already know how to do that with screen (I use those features of screen already)...I wanted to know how do the same thing in gnome-terminal |
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| 09:39.24 | hydra | WormFood: probably in the gnome terminal settings ? |
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| 09:41.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | WormFood:you can call gnome-term with parameters, try checking the man page (sorry to not be specific) |
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| 09:42.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | WormFood: perhaps you coujld wrap them up in a script then run it by gnome-session or some similar idea |
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| 09:42.10 | WormFood | yeah, I'm sure it can be done, but it hasn't been enough of an annoyance for me to spend the time to investigae it. |
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| 09:42.48 | WormFood | something appears to going on...too many "people" joining the channel too quick |
| 09:44.19 | cryptr | mmm |
| 09:44.36 | cryptr | where? what channel? |
| 09:45.03 | Kamping_Kaiser | WormFood: there has been a few, but some /are/ people, and there have been some parts too |
| 09:46.50 | WormFood | just seems like an unusually high number of joins within a short period of time...maybe it is just higher than average, and nothing is going on |
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| 09:48.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | WormFood: nod. but i've not seen anything from dpkg, wh onormally changes the max user limit |
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| 09:50.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | ah, and so spake debhelper |
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| 09:51.02 | passwordoff | I want go away from my workplace a 2 hours early, because I will go for the interview on another workplace. I should say a good reason to my boss. Any ideas? |
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| 09:51.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | ask #social ? |
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| 09:52.17 | tpocra | I am installing Debian onto a drive with Windows already on it. The Windows partition has the "B" flag currently. I could change that to my /boot debian partition being "B" for bootable |
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| 09:52.38 | tpocra | but I also know I will be installing GRUB2 very soon and that should be able to boot either, so does it matter which one is marked bootable? |
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| 09:53.23 | qwd | tpocra: you don't need to think about this, it'll just work :) |
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| 09:54.14 | tpocra | qwd: Thanks, I digured GRUB would take care of it but I wanted to make sure |
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| 09:55.00 | Aldus | Hi. I can't delete a file on my debian server, it's usr/bin/php.dpkg-new . It had immutable flag, i took it out with chattr -i (...) but still I can't rm it, and I'm root. What to do? |
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| 09:55.47 | mordocai | Aldus: pastebin ls -al usr/bin/php.dpkg-new? |
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| 09:57.22 | Aldus | mordocai, http://pastebin.com/80th1G1K |
| 09:57.59 | mordocai | Aldus: Okay, and what does rm /usr/bin/php5.dpkg-new tell you? |
| 09:58.18 | Aldus | mordocai, rm: cannot remove `/usr/bin/php5.dpkg-new': Operation not permitted |
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| 09:59.01 | kenro | Can I use other SCUMMVM games in Debian? Any caveats? |
| 09:59.09 | mordocai | Aldus: Try this? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-May/005317.html |
| 10:00.01 | Aldus | mordocai, already checked that but seems like I don't have the chflags command available |
| 10:00.17 | mordocai | Aldus: Yeah, noticed that on my box as well. Might be a bsd thing... one second. |
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| 10:01.28 | llutz | Aldus: lsattr /usr/bin/php.dpkg-new |
| 10:01.36 | Aldus | mordocai, just noticed if I create anything in the usr/bin folder I can't then delete it, just tried with an empty dir |
| 10:01.56 | mordocai | Aldus: ls -l /usr/bin? |
| 10:02.12 | mordocai | Aldus: Sorry, i meant /usr/ |
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| 10:03.03 | Aldus | http://pastebin.com/k9M3Fq2S |
| 10:03.52 | mordocai | Aldus: Well, double check that the immutable flag was indeed removed... |
| 10:05.05 | mordocai | Aldus: Oh, and the a flag can mess things up too. |
| 10:05.16 | Aldus | ok I did it |
| 10:05.21 | Aldus | removing also the a and u flags |
| 10:06.00 | mordocai | Okay, awesome :) |
| 10:06.24 | pynonoir | Hi. I have a keyboard issue with a usb keyboard on a Dell R710. Seems to happen with squeeze and ubuntu 10.4 (did not try 10.10) with different keyboards, but not with CentOS 5.5 so it's probably a software problem. |
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| 10:07.26 | mordocai | pynonoir: and the issue is? |
| 10:07.28 | pynonoir | some keys are ignored, some are repeateddddddd |
| 10:07.43 | pynonoir | this happens randomly |
| 10:08.16 | WormFood | did you see if your bios has any usb keyboard settings? |
| 10:08.17 | mordocai | Are you using it with any kind of adapters or anything in between the pc and the keyboard? |
| 10:08.20 | Bushmills | i get key repeats on wireless keyboards when the batteries wear off |
| 10:08.27 | Aldus | mordocai, llutz, thanks |
| 10:09.10 | pynonoir | keyboard is connected directly to the server |
| 10:09.56 | pynonoir | I don't see why centos could manage with incorrect bios settings |
| 10:10.53 | Bushmills | keyboard is not read by BIOS service request |
| 10:11.03 | pynonoir | but i'll try to reboot, even if this takes aaages on such servers to reboot |
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| 10:11.45 | Bushmills | that's probably not a keyboard issue |
| 10:12.25 | mordocai | pynonoir: I'd try unplugging/replugging the keyboard and modprobing the usb module before i rebooted. |
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| 10:12.56 | pynonoir | just "modprobe usb" ? |
| 10:13.38 | pynonoir | i'll try that, thanks |
| 10:14.17 | Angstrom_ | does pygtk come with debian? |
| 10:14.40 | mordocai | not that, but probably modprobe -r usbcore; modprobe usbcore. (That'll hit everything. You can also do a lsmod and look through that output to see what usb modules are being used) |
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| 10:15.11 | kenro | Can I use other SCUMMVM games not icluded i deb pkgs, in Debian? Any caveats? |
| 10:15.26 | Angstrom_ | Does pygtk come with debian? |
| 10:15.33 | Angstrom_ | Does pygtk come with debian? |
| 10:15.36 | Angstrom_ | sorry |
| 10:15.58 | mordocai | Angstrom_: apt-get update; apt-cache search python-gtk2. that'll show you that yes, it does. then apt-get install python-gtk2 |
| 10:17.51 | mordocai | pynonoir: Might be too late, but do make sure that you run that all in one command as in 'modprobe -r usbcore; modprobe usbcore' otherwise you'll likely not be able to type the second one :P |
| 10:17.55 | tpocra | I am installing squeeze but d-i is stuck at "Installing the base system/// Updating the list of available packages..." |
| 10:18.02 | tpocra | It has been going great until now. |
| 10:18.04 | pynonoir | mordocai: :) |
| 10:18.13 | mordocai | tpocra: How long has it been stuck? |
| 10:18.27 | tpocra | mordocai: About 10 minutes |
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| 10:18.44 | tpocra | I just installed Debian on this same machine an hour ago and it did not get stuck here. |
| 10:18.53 | tpocra | It has copied most (all?) of the base system over already |
| 10:19.12 | cyberbob | I have installed debian leny on my machine it is small form factor machine |
| 10:19.16 | mordocai | tpocra: Hmm... are you doing a network install? [the squeeze images aren't guaranteed to always work] |
| 10:19.41 | cyberbob | before this i was using ubuntu that was working fine but was not too much stable and some times crate probs |
| 10:19.52 | tpocra | mordocai: netinst CD yes, beta1 |
| 10:19.58 | tpocra | I chose my network mirror |
| 10:20.04 | tpocra | If I re-do the install I bet it would work |
| 10:20.08 | tpocra | Can I go back to the menu? |
| 10:20.10 | cyberbob | Now after debian installation my front MIC port is not working i am unable to record voice now . . |
| 10:20.13 | tpocra | I almost finished this install |
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| 10:20.37 | cyberbob | any idea howto overcome this issue as i have to communicate with my class mates. . |
| 10:20.38 | mordocai | tpocra: I would assume it is having trouble updating the list from the mirror... i'm not sure about going back. Could always try ctrl+c, but that might just break it |
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| 10:21.22 | imasaint | sdf |
| 10:21.27 | mordocai | cyberbob: Check the settings under System->Preferences->Sound. Mostly the hardware and input tabs |
| 10:21.40 | freepenguin0 | hi, does exist an Apache Server monitor for Debian based distros? an equivalent of Mysql-Administrator for Mysql |
| 10:21.43 | cyberbob | yup checked that but found not working. . |
| 10:22.02 | mordocai | cyberbob: Try all the "Connector" values? |
| 10:22.20 | cyberbob | mordocai: leme try that again :) |
| 10:23.22 | tpocra | mordocai: in graphical install.. trl+c does nothing |
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| 10:24.26 | mordocai | tpocra: Okay, well you should be able to open another virtual terminal with alt+F<1-7> and then run top and see what is taking up all its time. |
| 10:24.41 | tpocra | top not found |
| 10:24.53 | mordocai | bleh, is ps there? |
| 10:24.59 | tpocra | yes |
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| 10:25.10 | mordocai | Okay, one sec... i'm spoiled by top. |
| 10:25.15 | cyberbob | mordocai: not working .. |
| 10:25.27 | tpocra | apt-get update is being run |
| 10:25.35 | tpocra | I assume that's what it is halted onm |
| 10:25.45 | freepenguin0 | ? |
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| 10:26.22 | mordocai | tpocra: try killing the apt-get update. It will hopefully have a nice fail. |
| 10:26.58 | mordocai | cyberbob: okay, open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and type alsamixer. There should be something along the lines of Front-mic, make sure it is turned up |
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| 10:28.05 | cyberbob | mordocai: it is already up |
| 10:29.02 | mordocai | cyberbob: Okay, could you go to debian.pastebin.com and copy in the output of lspci and lsmod? (also from the terminal) |
| 10:29.11 | mordocai | then give us the URL |
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| 10:29.23 | cyberbob | :) |
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| 10:31.45 | mlangenberg | Anyone has experience using runit to 'supervise' a program? |
| 10:32.55 | cyberbob | mordocai: http://debian.pastebin.com/MnhN0wZR |
| 10:34.14 | cyberbob | mordocai: it was working fine with ubuntu 10.0 ltd amd64bit |
| 10:34.21 | cyberbob | lts* |
| 10:34.51 | mordocai | cyberbob: Are you getting regular sound output? |
| 10:35.33 | mlangenberg | I would like to know if I can install runit next to the default init scheme, instead of a replacement. |
| 10:35.54 | kenro | Can I use other SCUMMVM games in Debian? Any caveats? |
| 10:36.05 | cyberbob | yup I am there is a builtin speaker as well, I can use that as well as the front jack for audio out for audio output but front jack for mic is not working i am unable to record any voice |
| 10:37.18 | mordocai | cyberbob: Okay, one more thing then I'm going to have to google for more ideas. Open alsamixer again, then hit f4. Check those settings. |
| 10:37.24 | mlangenberg | Or would supervisord be a better fit instead of runit? |
| 10:38.08 | mordocai | cyberbob: Lol, i just realized I have the same sound card as you |
| 10:38.15 | mordocai | i don't use mics though |
| 10:38.25 | cyberbob | mordocai: :) |
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| 10:39.49 | cyberbob | mordocai: But i love skyping as this is the only medium i can use to communicate to my family/friend as i am away from my native |
| 10:41.13 | cyberbob | mordocai: I am using debian 5 leni . . |
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| 10:42.54 | mordocai | cyberbob: Okay, well with debian lenny i'm getting mic input fine... (found a random one laying around). No special config |
| 10:43.03 | mordocai | not lenny, sorry, squeeze |
| 10:43.10 | cyberbob | mordocai: I have been using nix* @ server end but not at personal computing but after getting this machine without license i felt a stron need to look forward to linux, but ubuntu is never my hot favourite as i have a bad time with ubuntu at server end. . so tried ubuntu @ desktop and switched to debain soon. . |
| 10:43.36 | mordocai | what app are you trying to recrod from? |
| 10:43.39 | mordocai | record* |
| 10:43.42 | cyberbob | mordocai: i think leni should work better in case of my hardware support just like squeez. . |
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| 10:44.16 | cyberbob | there is an app named sound recorder under sound & video |
| 10:44.26 | cyberbob | it is default one that comes with debain |
| 10:44.28 | cyberbob | debian |
| 10:46.28 | tpocra | mordocai: Bah it is doing it again |
| 10:46.33 | tpocra | I restarted the entire installtion |
| 10:46.34 | mordocai | cyberbob: Hmm... well i used sound recorder and got something easily |
| 10:46.43 | tpocra | and it freezes again at "Updaing the list of available packages" |
| 10:46.49 | tpocra | It was totally fine before now |
| 10:46.53 | mordocai | cyberbob: So... idk what's wrong, truthfully |
| 10:47.25 | mordocai | tpocra: Well, can you get it to just install the base system for now? |
| 10:47.37 | mordocai | tpocra: Like, tell it to not use a mirror or something |
| 10:47.43 | tpocra | mordocai: This is PART of the install the base system |
| 10:47.44 | tpocra | umm |
| 10:47.54 | tpocra | maybe, not sure? |
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| 10:48.32 | tpocra | The mirror I am using is working |
| 10:48.41 | mordocai | tpocra: well, the netinst -should- have all the really minimal packages installed. Technically you should be able to install it without anything from the network, then be able to better troubleshoot. |
| 10:48.41 | cyberbob | mordocai: any idea howto get this working. . |
| 10:48.42 | tpocra | i mean the server is up |
| 10:48.59 | tpocra | mordocai: I would like that. Earlier I chose the choose-mirror module to load |
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| 10:49.11 | tpocra | Maybe if I abstained from choosing that module earlier in the d-i process? |
| 10:49.19 | tpocra | I don't know why it is freezing here |
| 10:49.42 | mordocai | tpocra: Maybe, i truthfully don't know. I have a slow net connection and use wireless with WPA, so I tend to use a full cd |
| 10:50.32 | mordocai | cyberbob: i'm searching... i don't know anything else to try off the top of my head though. It may be lenny just doesn't support the sound card properly. |
| 10:50.53 | cyberbob | mordocai: squeez is the latest one or leny ? |
| 10:51.42 | EmleyMoor | lenny is stable, but squeeze is testing and will be the next stable, when it's ready |
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| 10:51.45 | mordocai | cyberbob: Basically, squeeze is testing and lenny is stable. I use testing for my desktops though |
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| 10:52.20 | cyberbob | mordocai: ubuntu is drived from debian kernal but ubuntu was getting it done amazed . . |
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| 10:52.43 | mordocai | cyberbob: Well ubuntu uses testing/unstable as it's base. |
| 10:52.59 | cyberbob | mordocai: :) |
| 10:53.18 | cyberbob | Can i get those kernel updates ?? so that it starts working @ my end . . |
| 10:53.31 | mordocai | cyberbob: maybe, try backports |
| 10:53.33 | imasaint | what I need to find is help on how to get this python script to work |
| 10:53.37 | imasaint | GameConqueror.py |
| 10:54.00 | mordocai | !tell cyberbob -about backports |
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| 10:54.09 | imasaint | someone told me to try backports |
| 10:54.14 | mordocai | !tell cyberbob -about debian-backports |
| 10:54.54 | imasaint | HELLO? |
| 10:54.58 | imasaint | what I need to find is help on how to get this python script to work |
| 10:55.05 | imasaint | it keeps saying:L |
| 10:55.14 | mordocai | imasaint: You didn't link the actual script. Try clicking your own link |
| 10:55.15 | imasaint | (and I checked google for this, maybe my pygtk version isn't up to date) |
| 10:55.38 | imasaint | gobject.GError: Unhandled tag: 'requires' |
| 10:55.46 | mordocai | And i'm sorry, but I don't help with game cheating tools :P. So my support ends here for that i'm afraid. |
| 10:56.00 | imasaint | Now I installed scanmem 0.07, but then removed it and manually made and compiled scanmem0.11 ./configure, make install, etc |
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| 10:56.39 | cyberbob | mordocai: thx for the help :) |
| 10:56.48 | cyberbob | you were really a helping hand |
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| 10:57.05 | tim|mac | hey all, is it possible to access debconf values from a late-command script during preseeded installation? |
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| 10:57.16 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 10:57.31 | lenswipe | anyone here use cups? |
| 10:57.37 | mordocai | cyberbob: Yeah, sorry it didn't get working. Worst case scenario, you could try debian testing. (you can actually upgrade to it semi-easily) |
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| 10:59.04 | mordocai | lenswipe: Umm... pretty much everyone who has a printer probably. What's your question? |
| 10:59.07 | imasaint | ok so you want a link to the script |
| 10:59.09 | imasaint | Here it is: |
| 10:59.12 | imasaint | http://pastebin.com/gbgikLAU |
| 10:59.16 | imasaint | The error message is at the bottom |
| 11:00.18 | imasaint | it's also on sourceforge |
| 11:00.35 | imasaint | I could manually use scanmem |
| 11:00.41 | imasaint | The script is very small, not very complex |
| 11:00.49 | imasaint | But I don't know python-gtk |
| 11:01.06 | cyberbob | mordocai: after added repo for backports to source list. . |
| 11:01.07 | mordocai | imasaint: Yeah, i found it. That's where <mordocai> And i'm sorry, but I don't help with game cheating tools :P. So my support ends here for that i'm afraid. came from. |
| 11:01.19 | cyberbob | would apt-get upgrade work for upgrading to testing ? |
| 11:01.39 | cyberbob | i meant to say upgrading to squeez |
| 11:02.01 | mordocai | cyberbob: Well, apt-get dist-upgrade should work. |
| 11:02.15 | mordocai | cyberbob: That tells it that it is okay to remove stuff as well |
| 11:03.25 | cyberbob | yup, but mordocai i have not seen any module related to sound in the module lists shown to me for upgradation |
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| 11:03.55 | mordocai | cyberbob: You wouldn't see modules specifically. The new modules should come with a new kernel. |
| 11:03.55 | tim|mac | "upgradation"... awesome :) |
| 11:04.22 | tpocra | mordocai: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10076437 |
| 11:04.30 | cyberbob | mordocai: so dist-upgrade would do that for me :) |
| 11:04.31 | tpocra | mine is failing at 73% too! |
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| 11:04.38 | mordocai | cyberbob: it -should- |
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| 11:05.10 | mordocai | tpocra: Well... did you try physically disconnecting from the network like it says? :P |
| 11:05.21 | tpocra | I'm going to start over agaaaaiiinn |
| 11:05.25 | tpocra | and do that =P |
| 11:05.47 | tpocra | I've partially installed an operating system 10 times today 0_o |
| 11:06.10 | cyberbob | mordocai: same prob with me I am @ too low levellink . .damn slow net :( taking too long any hoping to get it working for me :) |
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| 11:08.08 | mordocai | cyberbob: The only thing i've found so far is http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/problem-with-microphone-realtek-alc883-739366/. It just had some special alsamixer settings. |
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| 11:11.34 | tim|mac | is it possible to access debconf values from a late-command script during preseeded installation? and if so, how? i want to get the domain value that was entered during the installation... |
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| 11:15.03 | cHarNe2 | hi, i wanna list how much packet is flowing to and from ip-addresses im connected to. can i do that? im thinking like this: http://pastebin.com/NsbyGBsv |
| 11:15.04 | tpocra | mordocai: Ouch didn't work =/ |
| 11:16.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | cHarNe2: iftop? |
| 11:16.28 | mordocai | tpocra: Well, if you are still using the graphical installer i'd try one more time with the text one. (i think it at least provides a cancel button). If that doesn't work, i'd suggest getting a full cd. |
| 11:16.49 | tpocra | mordocai: I've actually been using the text one the last 3 or 4 times |
| 11:17.00 | tpocra | I've also tried the expert and normal |
| 11:17.10 | tpocra | Yeah I am just going to install lenny or some shit |
| 11:17.19 | tpocra | install nothing but bas-system |
| 11:17.21 | tpocra | and dist-ugrade |
| 11:17.23 | tpocra | this is horse poo |
| 11:17.41 | mordocai | tpocra: Yeah. The testing installer sometimes breaks, i'd assume that's the issue. |
| 11:17.55 | cHarNe2 | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks, thats awesome :D |
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| 11:20.41 | rhineshell | is there any howto about connecting UMTS-modems with usb or pccard interface? |
| 11:21.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | cHarNe2: :) |
| 11:22.20 | mordocai | cyberbob: Well, i'm having trouble finding anything else. Let me know if you find a solution, please. |
| 11:22.46 | Bushmills | rhineshell: those are just serial modems, on a usb adapter, using /dev/ttyUSBx device |
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| 11:24.54 | Bushmills | (through usbserial, that is) |
| 11:25.42 | Bushmills | usually used by building a ppp connection to provider |
| 11:26.25 | rhineshell | so all I need is ppp-software like wvdial and information of the provider? |
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| 11:27.21 | Bushmills | or a config file in /etc/ppp/peers, used with pppd call <file> |
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| 11:29.17 | rhineshell | Bushmills: okay, thank you. I cannot test it here but I'll do it soon ;-) |
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| 11:45.12 | Dewi | how can I trigger /cdrom to update? |
| 11:45.18 | Dewi | what automount system is that? |
| 11:46.35 | Dewi | hah. none. |
| 11:46.45 | Dewi | 'mount /cdrom' was all I needed :P |
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| 11:52.32 | kryl | hi, please what's the last stable kernel for lenny .? |
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| 11:54.23 | Dewi | kryl: 2.6.26, and 2.6.32 is in backports |
| 11:54.59 | kryl | ok thank you ;) |
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| 11:56.06 | saju_m | how enable firewall in ubuntu? |
| 11:56.20 | saju_m | how check firewall status? |
| 11:56.56 | saju_m | how enable firewall in debian? |
| 11:57.20 | rozie | saju_m: man iptables |
| 11:58.12 | fbs | saju_m: take a frontend, google for iptables front ends |
| 11:58.39 | totem | saju_m, sudo apt-get install gufw |
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| 12:02.04 | fbs | sudo aptitude install sl |
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| 12:03.52 | fbs | saju_m: http://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls |
| 12:03.57 | fbs | first hiet on google .... |
| 12:03.58 | fbs | ... |
| 12:05.23 | Dewi | aww |
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| 12:05.29 | Dewi | yay! |
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| 12:16.57 | cryptr | mmm |
| 12:17.30 | paradigm | mmm |
| 12:17.38 | cryptr | saju_m: iptables -L for status |
| 12:17.45 | cryptr | saju_m: iptables -L -t nat for NAT status |
| 12:17.58 | cryptr | saju_m: add -v (-vv) and so on for more verbose detail info |
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| 12:18.41 | cryptr | saju_m: to enable just do iptable -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 23 -j REJECT or anything else |
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| 12:19.10 | cryptr | saju_m: then look at iptables-save and load build your own little script or i could give you mine |
| 12:20.02 | saju_m | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.02 | saju_m | iptables: unrecognized service |
| 12:20.48 | saju_m | in my sysytem iptables command exist |
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| 12:20.57 | kwork | saju_m, iptables isnt init service |
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| 12:21.31 | saju_m | how start iptables service |
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| 12:21.42 | kwork | it isnt service, you just loads ruleset do it |
| 12:21.44 | smiler | saju_m: iptables isn't a service |
| 12:22.15 | saju_m | then how stop firewall |
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| 12:22.33 | saju_m | then how stop/enable/disable firewall |
| 12:22.38 | nkuttler | saju_m: how did you start it? |
| 12:23.03 | Bushmills | saju_m: you don't stop it. |
| 12:23.05 | kwork | saju_m, http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 12:23.21 | Bushmills | you delete rules and set policy |
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| 12:24.38 | smiler | saju_m: iptables -F OUTPUT; iptables -F INPUT; iptables -F FORWARD will disable most of it |
| 12:24.58 | smiler | saju_m: I suggest you read some documentation on how iptables work :) |
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| 12:25.48 | kwork | smiler, actualy flush can end quite badly if your default policy is drop :P |
| 12:26.02 | smiler | kwork: ah, true that :) |
| 12:26.08 | smiler | That has actually bitten me |
| 12:26.26 | saju_m | i think, in some other linux distribution, iptables is a service ? |
| 12:26.39 | smiler | saju_m: no, never |
| 12:26.39 | cryptr | yeah |
| 12:26.39 | kwork | saju_m, redhat has init script for it, but its newer service |
| 12:26.43 | cryptr | but that was removed in debian 3.1 |
| 12:26.57 | cryptr | before sarge we had iptables in /etc/init.d too |
| 12:26.59 | kwork | never* |
| 12:27.00 | smiler | saju_m: but some distributions provides some scripts to load a predefined ruleset at boot |
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| 12:28.45 | saju_m | ok, in redhat we can use service iptables start/stop/restart/status, here start load some predefined ruleset? |
| 12:29.08 | cryptr | saju_m: well, as i wrote above, it was removed in debian |
| 12:29.37 | cryptr | saju_m: I have written a similar script however if you want, but you still have to define your own rules, my just saves and autoloads |
| 12:29.50 | cryptr | using iptables-save and iptables-load |
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| 12:33.35 | Bushmills | rather than at boot, through init.d run level script, the alternative is to load and remove iptables rules when/before interface comes up and goes down. that's usually preferred with Debian |
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| 12:34.05 | cryptr | aye |
| 12:34.18 | cryptr | pre-up in interfaces i guess |
| 12:34.33 | jelly | !iptables |
| 12:34.34 | dpkg | [iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables . http://netfilter.org/ #netfilter on irc.freenode.net. See also <lartc>, <masq>. |
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| 12:36.11 | kwork | cryptr, why pre rather then post? |
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| 12:36.29 | depesz | hi. which init system is used in debian? |
| 12:37.49 | jelly | depesz: sysvinit by default |
| 12:38.00 | depesz | thanks. |
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| 12:42.45 | Carneque | Hey all, Im running lenny on virtualbox within Vista. I'm trying to point my browser to the localhost on the VB, but the VB is giving me a strange IP of 10.0.2.15 |
| 12:43.00 | Carneque | When I use that IP in a browser on Vista it does nothing |
| 12:43.33 | Carneque | I'm just trying to share files between Vista and the VB |
| 12:44.58 | jelly | Carneque: localhost on the VB guest, or the VB host? |
| 12:45.25 | Carneque | I guess I'm confused about the difference between this VB guest and VB host |
| 12:45.31 | Carneque | I've been reading article after artcile |
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| 12:45.53 | jelly | HAve you tried reading their user manual? in all likelihood, #vbox channel is going to be more helpful |
| 12:46.07 | Carneque | oh I didn't know there was a channel for that, cool |
| 12:46.08 | Carneque | thanks |
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| 12:47.38 | cryptr | kwork: just to block before putting it up i guess i would want it to be |
| 12:47.50 | cryptr | kwork: i guess post is as good as any |
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| 12:49.20 | cryptr | Carneque: use shared folders, pretty simple |
| 12:49.25 | Gorroth | hi |
| 12:49.36 | cryptr | Carneque: you can then samba mount your shared folder inside the guest |
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| 12:49.54 | Gorroth | so, i'm building some packages for maemo (pretty much like debian except mostly for nokia-based devices like the N900) |
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| 12:50.01 | cryptr | Carneque: or you could just setup a "host only" network to share your regular samba |
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| 12:50.38 | cryptr | Carneque: I think you are trying to use the internal vb NAT and that wont be reachable from the Windows Host |
| 12:50.38 | Gorroth | i have told the debian utilities via debian/rules to build my package with --prefix=/opt, but the dh_* programs still install man pages to /usr. everything else goes to /opt. do any of you know how to force the dh_* programs to install where i want? |
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| 13:04.16 | Karen_m | percona compiles mysql binaries that are supposedly way faster. The problem is, they use 'editline' that breaks C-w, does anyone know where you would put the setting for editline so that cntl+w will delete the word not the whole line? |
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| 13:05.03 | abrotman | maybe ask #mysql? |
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| 13:06.39 | tpocra | Trying to install lenny 5.0.6 here but it fails to install the linux-image package |
| 13:06.47 | tpocra | roight after I choose targeted (vs. generic) |
| 13:06.49 | tpocra | "mkinitramfs-kpkg failed to create initrd image" |
| 13:07.11 | tpocra | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9 |
| 13:07.22 | cryptr | local disk problem? |
| 13:07.29 | tpocra | errors were encountered while processing linux-image-2.6.25-2-amd64 |
| 13:07.36 | tpocra | cryptr: I checked the CD for integrity |
| 13:07.38 | tpocra | it passed |
| 13:08.22 | cryptr | does it fail with generic? |
| 13:11.19 | tpocra | cryptr: yes |
| 13:11.20 | tpocra | =[ |
| 13:11.47 | tpocra | base-installer: error: exiting on error base-installer/kernel/failed-install |
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| 13:14.22 | tpocra | It's failing to create the initrd image.... |
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| 13:26.45 | NginUS | Which of these should be in /etc/network/interfaces, or all 3? 'pre-up ifconfig eth0 mtu 16114' & 'pre-up ifconfig eth1 mtu 16114' & 'pre-up ifconfig bond0 mtu 32228' |
| 13:27.16 | Karen_m | Can you install an 'unstable' (postgresql9) package on lenny? |
| 13:27.38 | simonrvn | not really no. |
| 13:27.53 | simonrvn | !bdo |
| 13:27.53 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 13:28.29 | cryptr | tpocra: that sounds odd, you haven't done a too small partition for /boot or something? does df show enough space on /target ? |
| 13:28.34 | simonrvn | NginUS: you can put all 3 there, one per line |
| 13:28.53 | NginUS | simonrvn : thanks |
| 13:28.54 | Karen_m | backports doesn't have postgresql 9 |
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| 13:29.05 | simonrvn | Karen_m: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 13:29.56 | krish | hey guys, im using apticron and wanted to see how it runs manually; so typed in the same command given in its cron file.. but the process is taking too long to finish |
| 13:29.59 | krish | any ideas? |
| 13:30.12 | krish | does it do loggin of whatever is happening somewhere? |
| 13:30.32 | Karen_m | simonrvn, so I would just change the the sid to unstable for the source for postgresql? |
| 13:30.51 | simonrvn | sid == unstable |
| 13:30.52 | cryptr | NginUS: those are insane mtu's though, arent they? |
| 13:30.59 | NginUS | 20Gb |
| 13:31.06 | simonrvn | cryptr: rather |
| 13:31.17 | cryptr | NginUS: ah then ig uess should be ok 9000 for 10gb so yeah |
| 13:31.26 | Karen_m | oh |
| 13:31.34 | cryptr | simonrvn: not all have superduper interfaces like NginUS :) |
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| 13:31.48 | HackeMate | hello |
| 13:31.52 | HackeMate | how to truncate a log per day? |
| 13:31.53 | NginUS | 's disk want to melt daily |
| 13:32.08 | simonrvn | HackeMate: logrotate |
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| 13:32.40 | HackeMate | i am using logrotate to keep it per a certain time, but it doesn't creates various files, just one |
| 13:32.45 | b52 | hey, can i specify a repository while doing "apt-get source" ? |
| 13:32.46 | HackeMate | that is becoming too big |
| 13:33.03 | HackeMate | i'll read the man |
| 13:33.26 | cryptr | HackeMate: dont specify size then just time |
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| 13:35.03 | b52 | none an hint? |
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| 13:36.32 | blackshirt | b52: what you mean with specify repository ? |
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| 13:37.08 | b52 | blackshirt: i want the source from testing not from stable |
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| 13:38.06 | blackshirt | maybe you can.. but use it at your own risk.. |
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| 13:38.25 | Zenox | I can't get an USB device to work after upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze. It's registered as /dev/ttyUSB0 but the device fails to respond (or maybe sends incorrect responses). I tried an USB Hub with external current AND an internal USB card with the same results. Anyone knows what I can try (maybe some USB settings somehow)? |
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| 13:38.30 | b52 | blackshirt: how?! thats my question |
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| 13:39.31 | blackshirt | b52: modify your sources.list to contain source repository from testing |
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| 13:40.55 | b52 | blackshirt: it already does |
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| 13:42.59 | Bushmills | apt-get -t testing source ... |
| 13:43.24 | Bushmills | no need to edit sources |
| 13:43.29 | b52 | oh the -t has to be before source? |
| 13:43.37 | b52 | i tried that but it didn work |
| 13:43.52 | Bushmills | then try -t=testing |
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| 13:46.18 | realtechoo_ | Hello everyone,I want to install a system from debian,and i will install X , twm , and notify-osd but not gnome,Can notify-osd work with twm without gnome? |
| 13:47.18 | b52 | Bushmills: it tells me it cant find the sources for nginx |
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| 13:49.30 | Bushmills | well, that's an indication that it principally works :) |
| 13:49.39 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 13:50.51 | Posterdati | please help, can handle floppy under kde4 (squeeze): Mounting using dolphin is ok, but I can't access the media, can only use it via console (mounted on /media/disk-xxx not /media/floppy). Tx |
| 13:50.51 | abrotman | realtechoo_: why can't you install gnome? |
| 13:51.07 | abrotman | Posterdati: did you put it in your fstab ? |
| 13:51.17 | Posterdati | abrotman: no :( |
| 13:51.22 | cloversg | anyone have experience in partitioning software raid of > 2T ? |
| 13:51.57 | Posterdati | abrotman: the line in fstab was commented out |
| 13:52.16 | SlayerXP | cloversg: no, no-one does. you're the first person ever to attempt it. |
| 13:52.20 | realtechoo_ | abrotman: I just want to have a try in this way,:) |
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| 13:52.33 | abrotman | ah oay |
| 13:52.41 | abrotman | realtechoo_: it should ideally work if you install the deps |
| 13:53.02 | Posterdati | abrotman: now dolphin shows /media/flopy0, with nothing inside :( |
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| 13:53.11 | cloversg | gawd, I'm building a 10 drive 1T nas, freenas works, but would like to put a bootable deb on it using software raid 5, I can get it to boot on partitions smaller than 1T |
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| 13:53.47 | worf_ | anyone running debian as a client on a win2008 AD? i'm stuck configuring ldap ( nscd / nss_ldap ) and and desperately looking for infos and help |
| 13:53.49 | realtechoo_ | abrotman: ok,thx |
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| 13:55.40 | cloversg | Ok, how about anyone with experience with GPT and building a system with > 2T volumes? |
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| 14:01.45 | jelly | my >2TiB raids are all hardware, and system disks are separate from storage |
| 14:01.53 | artus` | hi |
| 14:02.03 | Josephs | Hello :) |
| 14:02.16 | artus` | I have a problen with file system ext4 |
| 14:02.59 | artus` | message log lines says: |
| 14:03.02 | Josephs | Android can now be run on iphone4?!? |
| 14:03.02 | artus` | ext4 orphan cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode |
| 14:03.23 | artus` | help please |
| 14:03.31 | jelly | artus`: does anything not work? |
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| 14:04.18 | jelly | artus`: if your machine experience an unexpected power loss, crash or otherwise an unclean shutdown, this is normal |
| 14:04.29 | artus` | when rebot system the system freeze |
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| 14:04.58 | artus` | Escribe texto o la dirección de un sitio web o traduce un documento. |
| 14:04.58 | artus` | Cancelar |
| 14:04.58 | artus` | Escuchar |
| 14:04.58 | artus` | traducción del español al inglés |
| 14:04.58 | artus` | but does not load when you reboot the system |
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| 14:06.31 | artus` | ok |
| 14:06.49 | normmand | my webcam used to work in ekiga under lenny. since upgrading to squeeze, it does not work at all. the camera driver is gspca_main. is this the only driver available ? |
| 14:07.38 | dkr | why is /proc/sys/net/ipv6/route/flush 0200? (noticed because sysctl -a says error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.route.flush') |
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| 14:08.24 | dkr | well, i guess it makes sense that it is only something you can tell the kernel to do. nothing to read |
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| 14:14.48 | cafaro | Hi, I booted my kernel with 'nomodeset', but in my dmesg, I still get '[drm] radeon modesetting enabled.'. nomodeset should disabled KMS right? |
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| 14:16.39 | Karen_m | is there a way to probe dpkg for deb-src for 'sid'? |
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| 14:18.04 | jelly | Karen_m: dpkg, the bot? |
| 14:18.23 | Karen_m | yes |
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| 14:18.54 | jelly | well there's the obvious /msg dpkg deb-src |
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| 14:19.10 | blackshirt | Karen_m: i can't figure out your problem, can you describe it ? |
| 14:19.53 | jelly | Karen_m: or you can copy and paste your normal mirror line, replace deb with deb-src, and replace lenny or testing or squeeze with sid as well |
| 14:21.11 | Karen_m | thanks |
| 14:23.01 | Karen_m | dpkg's "ssd" says to aptitude build-dep mumble <-- it cannot satisfy build-depends |
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| 14:24.55 | Karen_m | i want the newer version of mumble, any ideas? |
| 14:27.43 | dkr | Karen_m: check for a backport |
| 14:27.55 | abrotman | judd: versions mumble |
| 14:27.56 | judd | Package mumble on i386 -- lenny: 1.1.4-4+lenny1; lenny-backports: 1.1.8-2~bpo50+1; sid: 1.2.2-5; squeeze: 1.2.2-5 |
| 14:28.00 | abrotman | wee! |
| 14:28.05 | abrotman | whee .. stupid keyboard |
| 14:28.18 | blackshirt | i think you should go to upstream for newest release |
| 14:28.46 | themill | newer mumble depends on a vastly different boost than the one in lenny; it's not going to be a "simple" sid backport (it might not even be possible) |
| 14:28.53 | Karen_m | blackshirt, i thought you can't install squeeze packages on lenny? |
| 14:29.05 | abrotman | blackshirt: STOP TELLING PEOPLE THAT .. last warning |
| 14:29.06 | Karen_m | or sid |
| 14:29.16 | abrotman | you're going to end up banned for giving out idiotic advice |
| 14:29.19 | blackshirt | abrotman: what you say ?? |
| 14:29.29 | dkr | set us up the bomb |
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| 14:30.04 | dkr | anyway, 1.2.2 is latest upstream in this case |
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| 14:31.32 | Karen_m | upstream that you shouldn't use, right? |
| 14:31.51 | abrotman | Karen_m: do you need the newest version of mumble, or just a more recent one? |
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| 14:32.06 | jelly | or merely one that works |
| 14:32.11 | abrotman | ha! |
| 14:32.12 | Karen_m | the guys in #mumble are saying it won't fly unless I go to squeeze. Nevermind that :) |
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| 14:32.34 | Karen_m | abrotman, everyone that connects gets a weird "this server uses version 1 blah blah".. I cannot remember what it says |
| 14:32.43 | jelly | gently nudge the person that backported it before ;-) |
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| 14:33.27 | jelly | gets a sign "WILL BACKPORT FOR FOOD" |
| 14:33.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | will backport for jelly? |
| 14:33.42 | jelly | no. |
| 14:33.58 | abrotman | jelly: i think themill was implying that the version of libboost that the new mumble requires is non-trivial to backport |
| 14:34.02 | jelly | is not a cannibal |
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| 14:35.05 | jelly | I don't see boost in the deps |
| 14:35.10 | themill | abrotman: it's possibly just a matter of rewriting the boost build-deps to the ones in the lenny package but boost isn't that great with maintaining compatability so it still might fail to build |
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| 14:35.31 | themill | ,builddep mumble --release sid |
| 14:35.32 | judd | Package mumble -- Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.0.8), po-debconf, libboost-dev (>= 1.36.0), libboost-python-dev (>= 1.36.0), libqt4-dev (>= 4.5.0), libqt4-opengl-dev (>= 4.5.0), libasound2-dev, libpulse-dev, libogg-dev, libspeex-dev, libspeexdsp-dev, libcelt-dev (>= 0.7.0), libsndfile1-dev, libssl-dev, libzeroc-ice33-dev | libzeroc-ice32-dev | libzeroc-ice-dev, ice33-translators | ice32-translators | ice- |
| 14:35.34 | judd | translators, libg15daemon-client-dev, libspeechd-dev, protobuf-compiler, libprotobuf-dev, libavahi-compat-libdnssd-dev, libxi-dev, libcap-dev [!kfreebsd-i386 !kfreebsd-amd64], libc6-dev-i386 [amd64], gcc-multilib [amd64]. |
| 14:35.43 | Karen_m | abrotman, |
| 14:35.43 | Karen_m | "This server is using an older encryptiong standard. It might be an older 1.1. based mumble server. Would you like to launch the compatibility client to connect to it |
| 14:36.34 | abrotman | so say "yes" ? |
| 14:36.53 | jelly | ,versions libboost1.42-dev |
| 14:36.56 | judd | Package libboost1.42-dev on i386 -- sid: 1.42.0-4; squeeze: 1.42.0-4 |
| 14:37.00 | jelly | meh |
| 14:37.12 | themill | jelly: boost package layout changed drastically |
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| 14:38.01 | jelly | themill: that versioned build dep suggests anything newer than 1.35 might work |
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| 14:38.38 | themill | jelly: of course lenny has 1.34... |
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| 14:39.03 | tim|mac | is it possible to access debconf values from a late-command script during preseeded installation? and if so, how? i want to get the domain value that was entered during the installation... |
| 14:39.10 | jelly | but the qt4 versioned build dep is more intriguing (but I suspect not really necessary) |
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| 14:41.34 | Karen_m | abrotman, i was hoping that I could get rid of that message, but i will just tell everyone to bypass it :) |
| 14:41.40 | cafaro | Hi, I booted my kernel with 'nomodeset', but in my dmesg, I still get '[drm] radeon modesetting enabled.'. nomodeset should disable KMS right? |
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| 14:41.59 | superlinux | hi all. I wonder whether there is a command to dump one string into a number of files at once. so is there? |
| 14:43.23 | jelly | judd: versions libboost1.40-dev --release lenny-backports |
| 14:43.24 | judd | Package libboost1.40-dev on i386 -- lenny-backports: 1.40.0-6~bpo50+1 |
| 14:43.29 | Karen_m | if they used editline instead of readline, how do you control the C-w ? with readline it deleted the word, with editline it deletes the whole line... (this is a percona binary) |
| 14:44.05 | jelly | themill: so! |
| 14:44.27 | themill | \o/ so now all you have to do is deal with the package layout changes |
| 14:44.52 | jelly | dh_shlibdeps will do that for me <g> |
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| 14:45.17 | themill | you've still got to write the correct build-deps line in control |
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| 14:46.55 | abrotman | superlinux: did you try asking #bash ? |
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| 14:47.24 | superlinux | abrotman, I just have had the answer thanks |
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| 14:50.27 | dyek | Hi! Fedora has runlevel 3 which is multi-user with networking, but without GUI. Is there such a runlevel in Debian? Debian appears to have runlevel 1 (I suppose, single user?) and 2 (normal runlevel). Are there other runlevels that I can switch to to reset a X session, without disconnecting network and rebooting the system? |
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| 14:51.26 | abrotman | dyek: 2-5 are the same in debian by default |
| 14:51.57 | abrotman | dyek: ctrl-alt-f2 ? switch to a console? restart X? |
| 14:53.52 | dyek | abrotman: I see. So, the answer is no? Yes, I know about virtual console, but when Xorg spins (maybe because of nouveau, but not sure), I can't switch console, not even when I ssh into it and issue "chvt 2".), |
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| 14:54.35 | abrotman | dyek: is your system up to date? |
| 14:54.49 | jelly | themill: ok, it needs some recursive building after all. wtf is protobuf-compiler and libprotobuf-dev |
| 14:54.58 | dyek | abrotman: Debian Testing as of a week ago, I believe. |
| 14:54.59 | jelly | themill: but all the boost stuff is there! |
| 14:55.27 | abrotman | dyek: `aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade` |
| 14:55.29 | themill | jelly: not with exactly the same package names, but yes, it's there. |
| 14:56.12 | jelly | someone forgot to put meat-a-packages for libboost-dev in them backports |
| 14:56.23 | themill | jelly: «Unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libboost-dev (>= 1.36.0), libboost-python-dev (>= 1.36.0), libqt4-dev (>= 4.5.0), libqt4-opengl-dev (>= 4.5.0), libcelt-dev (>= 0.7.0), protobuf-compiler, libprotobuf-dev» (so there are a few others to contend with too) |
| 14:56.38 | jelly | versioned deps are for wimps |
| 14:56.57 | jelly | I flat ignored qt4 and celt versions |
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| 15:01.26 | jelly | ok, it's a nontrivial backport, but for python reasons, not bost reasons ;-) |
| 15:01.26 | dyek | abrotman: The real reason could be xorg or video driver, but my question here was just about the runlevels and if there are other tricks when some of the runlevels are missing. OK, I did upgrade, but not full-upgrade. I'll try that if with luck, the issue has been fixed. Thank you! |
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| 15:02.08 | abrotman | dyek: when running testing, it's important to keep up to date .. you open yourself to all kinds of flaky bugs |
| 15:02.10 | abrotman | if you don't |
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| 15:02.25 | abrotman | dyek: you also might want to try using the VESA driver to see if it's a hardware or software problem |
| 15:02.34 | dyek | abrotman: OK. Thanks. |
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| 15:03.55 | Zenox | How can I find out what driver is used by an USB device? |
| 15:04.16 | blackshirt | abrotman: you say like testing is full of bugs.. i don't think like that.. |
| 15:04.32 | abrotman | blackshirt: seriously .. go away |
| 15:05.28 | themill | jelly: as soon as you can't just do "apt-get -b..." it's non-trivial in my book, and the boost deps stop that too :) |
| 15:05.35 | blackshirt | abrotman: don't like that.. |
| 15:05.53 | abrotman | don't like that oyu keep saying silly things and messing up people's systems .. I'd call that even |
| 15:06.41 | goose | I need to edit the metadata on an mp3 file I made. Halp? |
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| 15:08.32 | blackshirt | abrotman: i don't do that..it just your paranoid |
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| 15:08.58 | flypp | goose, mp3info [mp3info-gtk] |
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| 15:09.17 | abrotman | blackshirt: you continue to give harmful advice despite being asked not to do that, please ponder this for a bit |
| 15:09.29 | goose | thanks flypp! |
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| 15:18.43 | cafaro | Hi! How can I disable KMS? I tried booting the kernel with 'nomodeset', but to no avail: http://pastebin.com/mfr6qKQA |
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| 15:19.24 | jelly | cafaro: radeon.modeset=0 maybe? |
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| 15:20.08 | Posterdati | abrotman: no way to unmount the floppy or browse it's content in kde4 (only normal console ops worked) :) |
| 15:20.19 | abrotman | did you change your fstab ? |
| 15:20.21 | jelly | cafaro: check whether it's enabled somewhere under /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 15:20.27 | abrotman | did you ask #kde ? they may know |
| 15:20.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell cafaro -about kms |
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| 15:20.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | goes for the canned response |
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| 15:21.51 | jelly | CutMeOwnThroat: the user as half of that canned response was wrong for them, but... yeah, the other half lists the full path to some nice module options files |
| 15:21.56 | jelly | a/as/said/ |
| 15:22.01 | jelly | fail! |
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| 15:23.22 | cafaro | jelly, CutMeOwnThroat: radeon.modeset=0 worked, nomodeset didn't. I was getting weird stripes on my screen with KMS enabled. Guess I'll just keep it disabled.. |
| 15:23.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, the canned responses usually are more complete than what I could say... and they mean I don't have to look up silly details like paths and files :) |
| 15:25.41 | jelly | that's why we have them |
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| 15:31.54 | Upgreydd | hi all i have a question, i have installed mysql-client-5.1 from repository and i have a problem with strict mode |
| 15:32.48 | Upgreydd | in my.cnf i've added a line "sql-mode="NO_AUTO_CREATE_USER,NO_ENGINE_SUBSTITUTION,TRADITIONAL,STRICT_ALL_TABLES"" and it won't work |
| 15:32.57 | Upgreydd | where i should put this line? |
| 15:33.10 | Upgreydd | i can't find any info in google :/ |
| 15:34.54 | Upgreydd | always the same error "#1366 - Incorrect integer value: '' for column 'id' at row 1 " :/ |
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| 15:38.35 | Upgreydd | is anyone here? |
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| 15:39.23 | glodime | I have a PDF file that is password protected with 256 AES encryption. I have the password, but I am unable to view the file with envice or xpdf or pdftk. It just reprompts for the password. Any suggestions? |
| 15:39.31 | Blaize | Upgreydd, is that when you try to insert into the table? |
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| 15:40.45 | pipeline | glodime: acroread |
| 15:41.04 | Upgreydd | Blaize i wonna put something like that: INSERT INTO `be_users` (`id`, `username`, `email`, `group`, `active`, `password`, `created`) VALUES ('', 'test', 'test@test.test', '1', '1', '9448bc14db8e896637b982a87fcb951db9debc25', '2010-11-09 16:23:12') it should work when i run mysql in strict mode traditional |
| 15:41.14 | pipeline | glodime: there's also a cli java pdf manipulation tool, but I can't remember the name. It's like pdf toolkit or something. But acroread is in the repos, and the java tool I'm thinking of is definitely not. |
| 15:41.24 | Upgreydd | else i need to run INSERT INTO `be_users` (`id`, `username`, `email`, `group`, `active`, `password`, `created`) VALUES (null, 'test', 'test@test.test', '1', '1', '9448bc14db8e896637b982a87fcb951db9debc25', '2010-11-09 16:23:12') |
| 15:42.03 | Upgreydd | but to do this in codeigniter i must remake whole class to use null against '' :/ |
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| 15:42.49 | Blaize | you're trying to insert an empty string when you do '', which is why its failing |
| 15:43.02 | Upgreydd | or run mysql server in traditional strict mode. I edited my.cnf and nothing happens :/ |
| 15:43.21 | glodime | pipeline, thanks. I'll give that a try |
| 15:43.34 | Upgreydd | Blaize, i know that, but when i run mysql server in strict mode with traditional it should work ;) |
| 15:44.02 | pipeline | glodime: by the way, the unix version of acroread is really terrible to use. Pokey, security issues, etc. I wouldn't normally recommend it. But if you need e.g. form-filling, decryption, sometimes it's the only game in town. |
| 15:44.24 | Upgreydd | SELECT @@GLOBAL.sql_mode gives me STRICT_TRANS_TABLES,NO_AUTO_CREATE_USER,NO_ENGINE_SUBSTITUTION, but it won't take a mode setted by me in my.cnf file |
| 15:44.37 | noobadix | Hey guys, I've got a gnome-question: In order to execute a jar-file by doubleclick, I opened the object-properties dialog and wanted to create the command "java -jar" but the argument is missing. How is it represented? |
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| 15:46.55 | Blaize | hm |
| 15:47.21 | pipeline | noobadix: executing a jar file by double click isn't a real good idea anyway |
| 15:47.28 | Upgreydd | i've edited /etc/mysql/my.cnf file |
| 15:47.29 | Blaize | have you tried starting mysqld with --sql-mode="your modes here"> |
| 15:48.44 | noobadix | pipeline: why? (now I got it: %f) how could I've known that? help-function is so useless... |
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| 15:49.09 | pipeline | noobadix: because most jar files are not intended to be executable |
| 15:49.11 | Upgreydd | Blaize how? those how i run mysql: /etc/init.d/mysql start |
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| 15:49.21 | Upgreydd | i can't add --sql-mode there :/ |
| 15:49.24 | pipeline | noobadix: and the java tool is only going to print the error message on the cli |
| 15:49.28 | pipeline | noobadix: so your launcher will fail silently most of the time |
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| 15:49.57 | noobadix | pipeline: ok, that's correct but for my purposes i really need this ;) |
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| 15:50.23 | jelly | noobadix: probably the .desktop file specification on freedesktop.org. http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html |
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| 15:51.07 | noobadix | >< so many letters ^^ |
| 15:51.18 | deStone | I have about 30 ips that are hitting my webserver about once per second, whats a good way to filter those ips out... |
| 15:51.29 | jelly | noobadix: but yeah, you'd have to know in advance this translates to a .desktop file |
| 15:51.30 | deStone | to a text file or on screen |
| 15:51.39 | Upgreydd | Blaize, have you any idea how to run mysqld with --sql-mode ?? |
| 15:52.25 | noobadix | jelly: alright, seems to be a really useful text. thx! |
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| 15:53.42 | Blaize | dones /etc/init.d/mysqld --sql-mode= "" start work? I don't have a linux box here to check it on, and it's been a while since I did anything with mysql |
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| 15:55.43 | Upgreydd | hmmm in /etc/init.d/mysqld you can use only "start,stop,restart" etc. you can't give --sql-mode switch :/ |
| 15:56.24 | stew | Upgreydd: edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 15:57.08 | PredaGR | hello people, is it possible to declare static and dhcp on an alias? |
| 15:59.39 | Upgreydd | stew: i've edited, but it won't work :/ |
| 15:59.47 | stew | Upgreydd: what did you add, and to where? |
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| 16:00.30 | Upgreydd | stew: in [mysqld] section i've added: "sql-mode="NO_AUTO_CREATE_USER,NO_ENGINE_SUBSTITUTION,TRADITIONAL,STRICT_ALL_TABLES" |
| 16:00.54 | Upgreydd | and it won't work, i've restarted mysqld /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 16:01.00 | Upgreydd | and it won't work :/ |
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| 16:01.40 | Upgreydd | meybe i should restart something else? |
| 16:01.49 | ldleworker | Okay so lets say I'm root and I want to install a +X script so everyone has access to it, including root. |
| 16:01.52 | ldleworker | Is that /usr/bin ? |
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| 16:02.47 | stew | ldleworker: /usr/local/bin typically (and leave /usr/bin for packaged stuff) |
| 16:02.55 | ldleworker | thanks. |
| 16:03.51 | Upgreydd | stew: any idea? |
| 16:04.10 | stew | Upgreydd: no. mysql is the thing you'd be restarting |
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| 16:04.16 | stew | Upgreydd: what version of mysql-server? |
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| 16:05.08 | stew | Upgreydd: i don't think you should have the double quotes |
| 16:05.16 | stew | Syntax: sql-mode=option[,option[,option...]] |
| 16:05.33 | Upgreydd | OK, for init.d the config file is in /etc/mysql/conf.d/mysqld_safe_syslog.cnf |
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| 16:06.17 | stew | Upgreydd: what makes you say that? |
| 16:06.50 | ali3n0 | hi guys. what's the suggested way to disable a login shell? change shell to /bin/false ? |
| 16:06.54 | stew | Upgreydd: where did you find that? |
| 16:07.25 | Upgreydd | yeah :) |
| 16:07.56 | Upgreydd | and everything goes fine now, SELECT @ @GLOBAL.sql_mode ; |
| 16:08.05 | Upgreydd | give me another line ;) |
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| 16:08.45 | PredaGR | hello people, anyone has any idea if it possible to declare static and dhcp on an alias? |
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| 16:08.58 | PredaGR | at the same time |
| 16:09.31 | Upgreydd | Incorrect integer value: '' he same shit :/ |
| 16:09.47 | abrotman | PredaGR: on the same alias? |
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| 16:10.35 | PredaGR | same ethernet interface, to have both static and a dhcp declaration, both active at the same one, probably one will have to be on alias, is this possible? |
| 16:11.01 | Upgreydd | ok i've done :) |
| 16:11.09 | Upgreydd | thank you guys :) |
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| 16:14.51 | jhutchins_lt | sis factoid is deprecated, server no longer exists. |
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| 16:15.03 | nkuttler | !sis |
| 16:15.03 | dpkg | SiS is Silicon Integrated Systems, a chipset manufacturer. For information on the SiS 191 gigabit Ethernet adapter, ask me about <sis191>. For SiS video chipset information, see http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsisvga.shtml and http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsisusbvga.shtml . http://www.sis.com/ |
| 16:15.16 | pinoyoragon | Can someone help me make gnome panel top and bottom reappear? after I changed my resolution, the panels were gone |
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| 16:18.22 | everyman | A quick question. Is there any script-based lightweight/ fast pdf parser? |
| 16:18.33 | cahoot | not just out of sight on the screen? |
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| 16:18.54 | stew | PredaGR: configure the interface to be dynamic, then configure the static ips via an "up" line |
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| 16:19.29 | PredaGR | nicely, this could work |
| 16:19.31 | stew | PredaGR: like "up ip addr add 192.168.122.4/24" for example |
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| 16:20.10 | doublehp | what's wrong with this command ? it used to work ... <<cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -tao -driveropts=burnfree -overburn gracetime=2 -v blank=fast>> now says "No disk / Wrong disk!" http://pastebin.com/0xu7Zse9 |
| 16:21.21 | dutchfish | hi, is it reasenable to expect mesa 7.9 in expirimental soon? or is is there any other debian repo already? |
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| 16:22.12 | zxd | slaps dutchfish around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:22.13 | Zyferus | slaps zxd around a bit with a large dutchfish |
| 16:22.13 | Zyferus | See how you like it, zxd |
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| 16:24.03 | dutchfish | zxd: i know about freeze of testing and i know it is all work, but 7.9 stable mesa is out for a month or so, i just want to know. If not, also ok by me. |
| 16:24.19 | PredaGR | thanks, will do it like that |
| 16:24.27 | jscheel | hello, I'm having some trouble with my PATH variable. I've set a path in /etc/bash.bashrc, but when I run "sudo su username -c "/usr/bin/env" then path that I have set is not there. Not sure what I am doing incorrectly. |
| 16:24.47 | melchior | i'd like to install debian packages onto a fresh busybox filesystem, how should i do ? |
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| 16:25.38 | jscheel | I've also placed it in /etc/profile |
| 16:27.09 | jscheel | ah, hmm, adding it to /etc/environment works, but it doesn't do any variable expansion |
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| 16:30.48 | doublehp | how do i burn a CD ? |
| 16:32.07 | petemc | wodim |
| 16:32.32 | stew | jscheel: can you show us what you are actually trying to do? what variable expansion are you expecting? |
| 16:33.10 | jscheel | stew: I want to add /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin to my path, regardless of user or whether it is an interactive shell or not |
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| 16:34.12 | jscheel | stew: looks like /etc/environment doesn't allow variables, because it's not actually a shell script |
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| 16:35.01 | stew | jscheel: /etc/environment might not be used at all depending on your pam setup, and if it is, it would only be for a login shell (it would depend on a "pam_env.so" entry in /etc/pam.d/login for example |
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| 16:35.23 | stew | jscheel: what makes you think it doesn't allow variables? |
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| 16:36.12 | jscheel | stew: google :) says it's a simple key=value config file |
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| 16:37.01 | stew | jscheel: it depends on what is calling that file, i'm suspecting that nothing is using that file |
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| 16:37.24 | jscheel | stew: it loads, but it just overwrites my entire path env variable |
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| 16:38.58 | stew | jscheel: there is nothing to overwrite |
| 16:39.52 | jscheel | stew: ? the path environment variable is set in /etc/profile, but then /etc/environment is loaded and if you define path in there, it overwrites what was in /etc/profile |
| 16:39.52 | stew | jscheel: since the PATH variable doesn't exist at the time the /etc/environment is loaded |
| 16:40.11 | stew | jscheel: what makes you thihnk that /etc/profile goes before /etc/environment |
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| 16:40.20 | stew | jscheel: /etc/environment is loaded by pam before you shell is started |
| 16:40.27 | stew | jscheel: then your shell sources /etc/profile |
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| 16:41.01 | stew | jscheel: again, depending on whether or not your pam config loads /etc/environment at all |
| 16:41.15 | jscheel | stew: hmm, when I set a path in /etc/environment, and then set a path in /etc/profile, the one that shows up when I run "env" is the one in /etc/environment |
| 16:42.09 | stew | jscheel: how are you logging in? at console? via ssh? |
| 16:42.31 | jscheel | stew: ssh |
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| 16:44.33 | stew | jscheel: can you show us what you are putting in each of the files? |
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| 16:46.46 | jscheel | stew: well, I've cleared out /etc/environment, and in /etc/profile I have "PATH=/opt/ruby-enterprise/bin:$PATH" before I export PATH |
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| 16:47.30 | stew | jscheel: and that is the only reference to PATH in either/ |
| 16:47.53 | jscheel | stew: one sec, I'll pastebin the whole thing |
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| 16:49.17 | jscheel | stew: http://jscheel.pastebin.com/XsZXweRz |
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| 16:50.08 | stew | jscheel: if if you make a new login now, what is the value of the PATH variable? |
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| 16:51.16 | jscheel | stew: explicitly logging in, it works. But, if I run sudo su git -c "/usr/bin/env", the path is just PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games |
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| 16:51.28 | jscheel | stew: sorry, git=username |
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| 16:52.20 | jscheel | stew: hmm, just noticed, USER=git, but USERNAME=root |
| 16:53.09 | stew | jscheel: sudo attempts to sanitize environment variables |
| 16:53.28 | stew | jscheel: if you add -i you might get something closer to what you are expecting |
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| 16:56.44 | jscheel | stew: hmm, added -i but I get "env: -i: No such file or directory" |
| 16:57.00 | stew | jscheel: -i is an argument to sudo |
| 16:57.05 | stew | jscheel: to simulate a login shell |
| 16:57.22 | jscheel | stew: yep, that's where I got the error from |
| 16:57.31 | stew | jscheel: so me the command you ran |
| 16:57.35 | stew | ^so^show |
| 16:57.46 | jscheel | stew: sudo -i su git -c "/usr/bin/env" |
| 16:57.47 | dutchfish | stew: because sudo was build with --with-secure-path |
| 16:57.59 | stew | dutchfish: yes |
| 16:58.14 | dutchfish | stew: this is different in othe rlinux OSes |
| 16:58.15 | stew | jscheel: and that returns "env: -i: No such file or directory" ? are you sure? |
| 16:58.29 | jscheel | stew: yep |
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| 16:59.07 | melchior | i'd like to open and edit the post installation srcipt in a debian package, how do I open this archive ? |
| 16:59.42 | dutchfish | stew: also -E option man page |
| 16:59.55 | jscheel | stew: can I just add the path to /root/.profile? |
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| 17:01.29 | jscheel | stew: nevemind, didn't work |
| 17:02.34 | stew | jscheel: you probably want: sudo -u git -i /usr/bin/env |
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| 17:03.43 | jscheel | stew: hehe, env: -u: No such file or directory |
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| 17:04.04 | stew | jscheel: your sudo is broken then |
| 17:06.07 | jscheel | stew: huh, I haven't done anything to it from the base debian lenny setup |
| 17:06.25 | jhutchins2 | !sudo |
| 17:06.26 | dpkg | [sudo] (Substitute User DO) Not enabled by default on Debian systems; configure /etc/sudoers first, ask me about <visudo>, <sudoers>. sudo can give limited super user privileges to specific users, or allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root permissions, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program". http://wiki.debian.org/sudo http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 17:06.29 | stew | jscheel: but anyway, /etc/profile is sourced by a login shell. so if its not a login shell, /etc/profile is going to be ignored |
| 17:06.41 | stew | jscheel: neither your sudo nor su commands are trying to simulate a login shell |
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| 17:06.54 | stew | jscheel: also note that your PATH variable is being sanitized by sudo |
| 17:06.55 | dutchfish | jscheel: does cat /etc/passwd | grep git list that user? |
| 17:06.59 | jhutchins2 | jscheel: Actually, all you really need to do is add users to the sudo group/ |
| 17:07.41 | jscheel | dutchfish: yes, the user is listed |
| 17:07.49 | stew | jhutchins2: that's not going to change anything |
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| 17:08.17 | rzeka | I am looking for admin tools like DirectAdmin or CPanel but at GNU license - and no, I don't want webmin untill I have to |
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| 17:08.46 | jscheel | stew: I'm still a bit new to this. Barring sudo sanitizing my paths, is there a way to add paths at the system level instead of the login shell? |
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| 17:09.20 | keith4 | rzeka: zpanel |
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| 17:10.25 | keith4 | jscheel: better off just using full paths |
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| 17:11.10 | jscheel | keith4: I would, but there are tons of scripts that I need that are relying on the env being set correctly |
| 17:11.56 | rzeka | keith4, I know I didn't write that I am looking for app fot Debian, but I thought here I'll find apps for debian :P |
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| 17:12.16 | keith4 | rzeka: ...what? |
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| 17:12.39 | stew | keith4: zpanel is for windows? |
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| 17:12.42 | jhutchins2 | !free whcp |
| 17:12.42 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig>, <ispCP Omega> and <RavenCore>. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 17:13.16 | jscheel | stew: interesting, even if I take sudo out of the equation, it still doesn't work: su git -c "/usr/bin/env" |
| 17:13.18 | keith4 | stew: no.... at least, it didn't use to be. lemme look |
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| 17:13.47 | keith4 | stew: it seems to have been renamed to "VCore": http://sourceforge.net/projects/zpanel/ |
| 17:13.47 | stew | keith4: it describes itself as "WAMP" and the installers are .exe files |
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| 17:14.32 | Gijs` | How can i find files, searching by content of a file? |
| 17:14.34 | jscheel | stew: I may be mis-understanding the difference between bash.bashrc and profile. bash.bashrc is only loaded on interactive shells, profile is always loaded, right? |
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| 17:15.19 | stew | jscheel: no bash.bashrc is loaded for all bash shells, /etc/profile is loaded for login shells |
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| 17:16.10 | stew | jscheel: 'su git -c "/usr/bin/env"' isn't starting a shell though, its executing a command |
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| 17:16.36 | Gijs` | anybody? |
| 17:16.40 | stew | oh, i guess it does start a shell |
| 17:16.41 | Jarvis | !ravencore |
| 17:16.41 | dpkg | somebody said ravencore was an open-source hosting control panel - http://www.ravencore.com/ |
| 17:16.51 | Jarvis | ta dpkg :P |
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| 17:17.30 | Nobu | rapidcp is mentioned on zpanel's history page. |
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| 17:18.15 | jhutchins2 | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3911906/Linux-Does-Being-Competitive-with-Windows-Matter.htm |
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| 17:19.36 | Gijs` | How can i find files, searching by content of a file? |
| 17:19.37 | jscheel | stew: hmm, still no dice |
| 17:20.10 | Nielsen | Gijs`, grep -ri string files |
| 17:20.42 | jscheel | celar |
| 17:20.47 | jscheel | oops |
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| 17:21.39 | mmnicolas | i've been watching this page for a while now: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/testing.html, and I wonder how come there is 48 release-critical bugs in lenny ? Shouldnt all RC bugs be closed before releasing it as stable ? |
| 17:22.52 | dutchfish | mmnicolas: ideally yes, however many are found/reported after a version was declared stable. |
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| 17:24.08 | jscheel | stew: dutchfish: thanks for your help. I'm gonna keep playing around with this. I appreciate it! |
| 17:24.54 | dutchfish | jscheel: also read man 5 sudoers -> env_reset |
| 17:25.01 | jscheel | dutchfish: willdo |
| 17:25.10 | stew | mmnicolas: also some of them might be tagged "lenny-ignore" |
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| 17:28.57 | sisf | Hello guys. Is there any way to have the BT powered on at boot time, without me having to press the button (which is broken) ? |
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| 17:30.09 | misfotto | sisf, BT ? |
| 17:30.21 | sisf | misfotto: bluetooth |
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| 17:31.04 | misfotto | guess on debian right ? |
| 17:31.30 | Muty | hello guys: I wanted to install openvpn package on my NAS device, but apt fails on mime-support with the following error message: |
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| 17:31.33 | Muty | update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/share/man/fr.UTF-8/man1/view.1.gz.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/view.fr.UTF-8.1.gz: No such file or directory |
| 17:31.34 | sisf | Actually, Ubuntu (/me run and hides) |
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| 17:32.18 | misfotto | there isn't a "button" in tray bar ? |
| 17:32.26 | Muty | anyone has a solution for this problem? I searched for that error message and found some stuff, like it should already be fixed in the current debian packages, but it doesn't work yet. |
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| 17:32.31 | Muty | at least for me |
| 17:32.31 | jhutchins2 | sisf: Do you have a way to turn it on without the button? |
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| 17:33.16 | sisf | jhutchins2: I USED to. Up untill I made an update |
| 17:33.43 | sisf | jhutchins2: It was on by default when the PC booted .. |
| 17:34.46 | sisf | The thing is .. now it does not seem to be powered. It dosen`t show in lsubs or lshw. |
| 17:34.51 | jhutchins2 | sisf: We have no idea what they get up to with the Ubuntu packages, you'll have to ask in #ubuntu. |
| 17:35.26 | sisf | jhutchins2: I was afraid you would say that :D |
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| 17:40.29 | stew | Muty: does /etc/alternatives exist? |
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| 17:44.14 | sigmonsays | Anyone ever use %(USER) in pam_mount options for a volume declaration? uid=%(USER) is being passed to the mount command unexpanded =/ |
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| 17:47.53 | Muty | stew: yes |
| 17:48.16 | Muty | but I fixed it by copying some needed language files onto the NAS device |
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| 17:55.03 | Sevalecpp | heh... I love choice, but what kind of benefits would the freebsd kernel really provide over linux? |
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| 17:55.49 | eAndrius | ok guys, I really need an bitme.org invite, because I want to be as awesome as you are! Anyone has one? |
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| 17:55.58 | stew | eAndrius: wrong channel |
| 17:56.04 | Gun_Smoke | I'm trying to find out what is consuming bandwidth on this machine, I don't have anything open or running but it is still pulling down ~50KB/s. |
| 17:56.06 | eAndrius | not really |
| 17:56.15 | stew | eAndrius: this is somehow debian related? |
| 17:56.29 | eAndrius | yes, you can find debian ebooks in bitme.org |
| 17:56.58 | stew | eAndrius: waht is biteme.org? waht debian books are there that you can't get from debian.org? |
| 17:57.21 | Nobu | stew: looks like a bittorrent site. |
| 17:57.22 | stew | Sevalecpp: pf is the most common answer |
| 17:57.35 | stew | eAndrius: oh, you can get the ebooks that you'd normally have to pay for without paying you mean? |
| 17:57.38 | eAndrius | stew: your question is not logical, how can I know the difference without being able so access it? |
| 17:57.45 | CissWit | BitMe.ORG is an E-Learning torrent tracker. |
| 17:57.50 | keith4 | Gun_Smoke: try iftop |
| 17:57.55 | keith4 | or tcpdump |
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| 17:58.17 | stew | eAndrius: this channel is for debian support only. i don't see how this fits, please take it elsewhere |
| 17:58.48 | eAndrius | well then it's your problem ;] |
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| 18:02.34 | Gun_Smoke | keith4, thanks for that. |
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| 18:03.03 | elliott | Okay, seriously, did an Iceweasel upgrade just get put into testing that happens to make it crash every five seconds? |
| 18:03.07 | elliott | (Yes, I've disabled extensions.) |
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| 18:05.08 | keith4 | elliott: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_3.5.15-1/changelog |
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| 18:05.25 | elliott | keith4: it was a rhetorical question :) |
| 18:05.37 | keith4 | ;-) |
| 18:05.39 | elliott | i guess 3.5.15 is a bit screwy |
| 18:05.59 | elliott | maybe :-P |
| 18:05.59 | keith4 | elliott: try trashing your profile (save your bookmarks first) |
| 18:05.59 | elliott | yeah, ok |
| 18:05.59 | elliott | thanks |
| 18:06.09 | keith4 | or just make a new profile |
| 18:06.10 | stew | or just start a new profile, leaving your main one alone |
| 18:06.21 | stew | elliott: check the bts, consider filing a bug if one doesn't exist |
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| 18:06.55 | elliott | stew: it was probably a screwed up profile, it's happened before; just venting :) |
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| 18:07.41 | stew | elliott: still, if its somehting that is going to hit upgrades from stable, it should be filed |
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| 18:08.50 | elliott | stew: Well, stuff like this has happened for as long as I've used Firefox... and unfortunately I've trashed the profile already. |
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| 18:09.03 | keith4 | 3.5.15 is also in lenny-backports... i'll upgrade and see what happens |
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| 18:11.15 | he2 | hi |
| 18:11.38 | he2 | my /home does not automount after booting |
| 18:12.11 | cryptr | broken fstab? |
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| 18:12.23 | cryptr | what does the line in fstab say for home? |
| 18:12.37 | he2 | cryptr: i think there is none |
| 18:12.48 | cryptr | there is your answer |
| 18:12.54 | he2 | cryptr: i'll take a look |
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| 18:13.53 | he2 | /dev/sdb6 /home ext3 auto 0 2 |
| 18:13.53 | cryptr | should be something like /dev/xxxx or UUID=xxx /home ext2|3|4|xfs defaults 0 2 or such |
| 18:14.16 | cryptr | skip auto maybe and do defaults |
| 18:15.07 | cryptr | this is mine |
| 18:15.09 | cryptr | /dev/md1 /home xfs noatime 0 2 |
| 18:15.27 | stew | auto is the default |
| 18:15.27 | he2 | cryptr: i changed to 'defaults' |
| 18:15.30 | keith4 | elliott: fwiw, upgraded 3.5.11 to 3.5.15 without incident |
| 18:15.56 | he2 | is there an easy way to check or do i have to reboot? |
| 18:15.59 | elliott | And mine still crashes even though I trashed my profile. I have to go now, anyway... |
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| 18:17.55 | cryptr | he2: try mount -a |
| 18:18.04 | cryptr | if it mounts with that then it should mount |
| 18:18.12 | cryptr | he2: perhaps you are in singelusermode? |
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| 18:19.05 | CyberDomovoy | how can i list every disk in a shell script? (so i get something like "hda hdb hdd" or "/dev/hda /dev/hdc") |
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| 18:19.40 | phik | df -h maybe? |
| 18:19.44 | he2 | cryptr: i think i found the error |
| 18:19.45 | c4pt | i was wondering if someone could give me a suggestion i am trying to mount hfs+ on debian squeeze ive tried to install hfsplus and hfsutils hfsprogs i also added the device to fstab and tried mounting with mount -t hfsplus -rw /dev/sdc2 /media/Snow but i cant make any changes to the filesystem (also as mount -o force /dev/sdc2) |
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| 18:19.54 | c4pt | /dev/sdc2 on /media/Snow type hfsplus (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=c4pt) |
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| 18:20.07 | CyberDomovoy | phik> that would list only what is mounted |
| 18:20.17 | he2 | i've a few more problems |
| 18:20.18 | cryptr | CyberDomovoy: ls /dev/disk? |
| 18:20.20 | he2 | :D |
| 18:21.06 | he2 | i would like to auto adjust brightness to the lowest level |
| 18:21.28 | fbs | CyberDomovoy: or ls /dev | grep sd |
| 18:22.01 | CyberDomovoy | cryptr> interesting, how do y get /dev/hd? from here? |
| 18:22.10 | CyberDomovoy | fbs> and what if hd? |
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| 18:22.21 | fbs | ehh grep for hd? |
| 18:23.17 | cryptr | CyberDomovoy: ls -la /dev/disk/by-path/ | grep -v "sd[a-z][1-9]" | awk -F / '{print $3}' |
| 18:23.21 | c4pt | ? |
| 18:23.29 | jhutchins2 | fdisk -l could be filtered |
| 18:23.34 | CyberDomovoy | i was looking for something like "cat /proc/devices | grep -w 3" wich gives me all my disk, but don't know how to link "ide?" to "hd?" |
| 18:23.57 | cryptr | CyberDomovoy: well play around :) |
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| 18:24.47 | CyberDomovoy | cryptr> that's interesting, they are actually links, good |
| 18:24.54 | cryptr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.57 | cryptr | another way |
| 18:25.15 | cryptr | kudos to jhutchins2 |
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| 18:25.31 | fbs | cryptr: the first one doesnt work here |
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| 18:26.40 | fbs | ls /dev |
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| 18:29.04 | cryptr | fbs: ? id doesnt? |
| 18:29.06 | cryptr | it.. |
| 18:29.16 | cryptr | $ ls /dev/disk/ |
| 18:29.17 | cryptr | by-id by-label by-path by-uuid |
| 18:29.23 | cryptr | you do not have thse? |
| 18:29.25 | cryptr | those. |
| 18:29.32 | fbs | that part works |
| 18:29.39 | cryptr | perhaps you do not have sudo |
| 18:29.51 | cryptr | but i did not use sudo for that :) |
| 18:29.52 | cryptr | lol |
| 18:29.56 | fbs | the first one, not the fdisk one |
| 18:30.02 | cryptr | fbs: sata or ide? |
| 18:30.12 | fbs | sata |
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| 18:30.54 | fbs | it pritns 4 whitelines, sda and sr0 |
| 18:31.05 | cryptr | then it works |
| 18:31.11 | cryptr | you have sda and sr0 |
| 18:31.19 | fbs | ow wait |
| 18:31.20 | cryptr | i did not bother with whitelines |
| 18:31.32 | fbs | i thought he wanted /dev/sda1 a2 etc |
| 18:31.32 | cryptr | do ls -l and no whitelines |
| 18:31.35 | cryptr | or atleast 2 less |
| 18:32.01 | fbs | my fault :) |
| 18:32.40 | cryptr | well it's ugley anyway :) |
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| 18:35.26 | franki^ | Hi fbs :> |
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| 18:40.38 | cryptr | CyberDomovoy: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -l | sed 's/.* ..\/..\///g' another thing you could play with |
| 18:40.50 | wildc4rd | evenin all |
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| 18:40.53 | c4pt | i seem to be having trouble mounting hfsplus as read write |
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| 18:41.11 | c4pt | when i mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdc2 /media/Snow and try to make changes. |
| 18:41.17 | c4pt | i get "read only file system" |
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| 18:41.23 | c4pt | (if i try to delete a file) |
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| 18:42.11 | r0hit | c4pt , tried -o rw flag? |
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| 18:42.39 | c4pt | r0hit, yes |
| 18:42.54 | c4pt | r0hit, /dev/sdc2 on /media/Snow type hfsplus (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=c4pt) |
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| 18:43.34 | stew | CyberDomovoy: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 18:46.54 | he2 | how can i find out my wifi-card? |
| 18:47.01 | he2 | *the name of |
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| 18:49.11 | Gun_Smoke | The network here on campus is killing me.. I can barely get a ssh connection out. bwm-ng reports a nearly constant incoming rate of around ~50KB/s while nothing should be. tcpdump produces a lot of the following. http://pastebin.com/pfyidSGi |
| 18:49.15 | Giles | crontab -e gives: |
| 18:49.18 | Giles | /var/spool/cron/crontabs/giles: Permission denied |
| 18:49.54 | cryptr | sudo chown giles.gles /var/spool/cron/crontabs/giles |
| 18:49.57 | Giles | sudo ls -al /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ |
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| 18:50.04 | cryptr | or just remove it and create a new |
| 18:50.04 | CyberDomovoy | stew> get the list of available disk drives from a shell script, so that i can ask wich disk to use |
| 18:50.06 | Giles | -rw------- 1 giles crontab 424 2010-11-06 20:04 giles |
| 18:50.13 | dkr | cryptr: should be giles.crontab actually |
| 18:50.19 | cryptr | true |
| 18:50.22 | Gun_Smoke | Is there anything I can do on my Debian to clean things up a bit? |
| 18:50.23 | cryptr | chmod g+rw ? |
| 18:50.29 | cryptr | so crontab can write? |
| 18:50.51 | Giles | isn't crontab supposed to be sguid? |
| 18:51.16 | Giles | ie is this wrong then: |
| 18:51.17 | Giles | http://serverfault.com/questions/78159/what-could-cause-permission-denied-for-command-crontab-e |
| 18:51.28 | dkr | shouldn't be necessary. rw by giles is enough for crontba -e. maybe strace it? |
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| 18:52.35 | Giles | dkr: what is the standard debian setup then, for crontabs to be writeable everyone in the crontab group |
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| 18:52.52 | dkr | Giles: as that url says. -rwxr-sr-x 1 root crontab 30248 Oct 16 07:27 /usr/bin/crontab |
| 18:52.53 | JGuzman | good evening everybody there |
| 18:53.05 | CyberDomovoy | stew> doing this for now: for sys_path in /sys/block/[hs]d*; do media_type=$(cat "${sys_path}/device/media"); [ "$media_type" == "disk" ] && echo "/dev/$(basename $sys_path)"; done |
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| 18:53.17 | Giles | dkr: yes /usr/bin/crontab, not /var/spool/crontabs/giles |
| 18:53.55 | Giles | giles@korma:~$ ls -la `which crontab` |
| 18:53.55 | Giles | -rwxr-sr-x 1 root crontab 27724 2008-09-28 10:33 /usr/bin/crontab |
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| 18:55.41 | diago | Why is it if I put a 2TB drive in lvm it only shows as 1.82TB ? |
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| 18:57.02 | franki^ | diago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabyte |
| 18:57.29 | dkr | Giles: what are the perms on /var/spool/cron/crontabs dir? |
| 18:57.29 | franki^ | diago: Compare with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tebibytes I suppose |
| 18:58.21 | dkr | diago: aside from the TB vs TiB issue you could also have space reserved for the filesystem if you created one. |
| 18:58.41 | anoob | hi |
| 18:58.46 | stew | CyberDomovoy: what about: hal-find-by-capability --capability storage | while read a ; do hal-get-property --udi $a --key block.device ; done ? |
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| 18:59.05 | anoob | hi, i'm running debian sid with e17 and i want to use a digital clock. right click above the clock doesn't show its settings. how can i change it to a digital clock? |
| 18:59.12 | cusco | hi |
| 18:59.18 | Giles | dkr: I think I spotted the problem |
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| 18:59.24 | cusco | using mailx to send an e-mail, how can I add custom headers? |
| 18:59.29 | cusco | or where should I ask this question? |
| 18:59.44 | CyberDomovoy | stew> hal may not be available when my script is run |
| 18:59.45 | Giles | dkr: the crontabs dir itself is not executable by the group, so cannot be opened |
| 19:01.03 | cryptr | Giles: crontab -l does it work? |
| 19:01.19 | diago | franki^, dkr thanks, I will read up |
| 19:01.48 | Giles | http://pastebin.com/RwFSn27g |
| 19:01.49 | dkr | Giles: should be 1730 |
| 19:02.04 | Giles | cryptr: no |
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| 19:02.13 | dkr | and group owned by crontab |
| 19:02.39 | dkr | wonder how yours got changed |
| 19:02.41 | cryptr | strange that stuff just breaks like that |
| 19:02.45 | cryptr | hacked? |
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| 19:03.13 | diago | when you have drives for use in LVM do you partition them first? |
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| 19:03.20 | diago | it seems to work both ways |
| 19:03.25 | diago | fdisk -l |
| 19:03.35 | diago | could be confusing though with no partitions |
| 19:04.23 | Giles | dkr: ah ha, yes not group owned by crontab |
| 19:04.54 | Giles | dkr: I think I broke some permissions some time ago. |
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| 19:05.11 | Giles | dkr: don't really know a good way to get everything back to defaults? |
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| 19:07.02 | JGuzman | hey folks, is it normal that after my Debian installation (lenny), my /etc/X11/xorg.conf disappeared? |
| 19:07.12 | dkr | Giles: not really. |
| 19:07.24 | dkr | JGuzman: yes, it has sane defaults/autoprobe nowadays |
| 19:07.37 | JGuzman | I see |
| 19:07.38 | fbs | franki^: ! |
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| 19:07.48 | keith4 | JGuzman: or maybe you don't have X installed |
| 19:08.01 | JGuzman | well, I see my xfce4 running |
| 19:08.03 | keith4 | ... depending what, exactly, you mean by "after my Debian installation" |
| 19:08.04 | JGuzman | so I guess I have X |
| 19:08.14 | JGuzman | just know |
| 19:08.15 | dkr | safe assumption. :) |
| 19:08.21 | JGuzman | lol |
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| 19:14.24 | diago | so if I have 2TB drives would I use vgcreate -s 64M , I don't really understand how to find the exact MB of the drives now for the math |
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| 19:16.59 | Computer | hey my 259M / partition is full. where do you think the space has gone? ive dealt with this before but i don't remember |
| 19:17.33 | Computer | i think it happened during kernel update... i ported to a newer kernel version than lenny and it filled that stupid / partition |
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| 19:19.06 | he2 | does someone know a good tutorial 'how to install wifi drivers'? |
| 19:19.42 | cahoot | !wifi |
| 19:19.42 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <brcm80211>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 19:20.06 | mahen23 | hi |
| 19:20.07 | mahen23 | is there any program that allows me to spoof my address email? |
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| 19:22.47 | robokop | mahen23: netcat |
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| 19:25.11 | mahen23 | nah, C# |
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| 19:25.36 | cusco | I would use telnet |
| 19:25.53 | cusco | telnet target 25 |
| 19:26.04 | diago | I have a default debian lenny install and cannot mount ext4 |
| 19:26.08 | robokop | cusco: telnet is bloated |
| 19:26.25 | cusco | hm |
| 19:26.30 | cusco | I believe you |
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| 19:27.59 | diago | hmmm not in the kernel with lenny I see |
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| 19:29.08 | robokop | diago: you can compile your own kernel if you really need it |
| 19:29.18 | stew | diago: yeah, it was marked as "experimental" in the kernel lenny froze with. you can get a newer kernel from backports.debian.org: /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 19:31.38 | ehcah | Hello. Can anyone make a recommendation for an appropriately sized/focused Debian package that would allow me to build a NAS-like solution? I have been seriously considering FreeNAS or Nexenta. |
| 19:31.57 | ehcah | Someone recently pointed me towards Debian and Zpool as an option. |
| 19:32.12 | diago | ok, thanks stew and robokop. I will check out backports |
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| 19:35.33 | diago | This is a backup machine (NORCO 24 hot-swappable bays). I'm trying to decide on the FS to use. Most files will be rather large so it is looking like XFS is a good choice |
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| 19:36.43 | ehcah | Diago: I don't mean to lurk... But are you running the RPC-4224? |
| 19:37.50 | diago | that's the one! |
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| 19:38.00 | ehcah | How do you like it? |
| 19:38.19 | ehcah | I just ordored one + an Areca 1280ML 24port card. |
| 19:38.28 | ehcah | *ordered |
| 19:38.52 | diago | I didn't order a card yet. I have enough for eight hookup so far. I'll check that card out though |
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| 19:39.11 | diago | we are backing up video files that grow 150GB a week |
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| 19:39.40 | diago | wow that card is crazy |
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| 19:39.57 | ehcah | Wow. Mine is going to be for home use. Movies, Music, Pictures and a seperate pool for local pc backup. |
| 19:40.12 | diago | are you going to use the HW raid? |
| 19:40.29 | diago | that's some serious dough for a home setup |
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| 19:40.43 | ehcah | I'm torn between RAID 6, and other solutions. |
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| 19:41.00 | ehcah | Cashed in some RRSP's. Don't tell my financial adviser. |
| 19:41.07 | diago | lol |
| 19:41.28 | diago | I'm just going to use LVM |
| 19:41.35 | simonrvn | !ot |
| 19:41.35 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 19:41.54 | he2 | it doesn't work |
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| 19:42.17 | he2 | wifi is still on strike |
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| 19:54.25 | he2 | could a kernel update fix my wfi problem? |
| 19:54.35 | he2 | with ubuntu wifi worked well |
| 19:54.39 | he2 | and out of box |
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| 19:55.06 | robokop | he2: what have you tried to make it work |
| 19:55.14 | robokop | !wifi |
| 19:55.15 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <brcm80211>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 19:55.29 | robokop | he2: already tried that? |
| 19:55.38 | he2 | robokop: i did so |
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| 19:55.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | it could... you can check support in different kernels if you have the pciid, you get that with lspci -nnn |
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| 19:56.32 | robokop | he2: so where did it go wrong |
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| 19:57.30 | he2 | robokop: first advice to find out the wifi card |
| 19:57.36 | stew | he2: what card do you have? which driver are you using? |
| 19:57.47 | he2 | robokop: i found out that it should be a realtek |
| 19:58.26 | he2 | stew: realtek Semiconductor 8199 |
| 19:58.33 | stew | he2: what is the pciid? |
| 19:58.48 | he2 | command not found |
| 19:58.49 | stew | he2: it would be somehting like "8039:1022" and it would be listed in "lspci -nn" |
| 19:58.58 | he2 | ah |
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| 19:59.15 | stew | (assuming it was connected via pci and not usb) |
| 19:59.23 | he2 | 10ec:8199 |
| 19:59.32 | stew | judd: pciid 10ec:8199 |
| 19:59.33 | judd | [10ec:8199] is 'RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'rtl8187se' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8199 http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x |
| 20:00.27 | stew | dpkg: rtl8187se |
| 20:00.27 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8187SE is a 802.11b/g single-chip PCI-E WLAN IC. The vendor driver (rtl8187se, renamed to r8187se at Linux 2.6.33) is included as a staging driver in mainline Linux kernels as of 2.6.29, see http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x#rtl8187se |
| 20:00.44 | stew | he2: so a kernel from backports should work, /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 20:04.42 | JGuzman | hey guys, to install and use hotplut and udev under Debian |
| 20:04.59 | JGuzman | should I simply install the packages? (I am trying to install the wireless driver of Intel) |
| 20:06.05 | Vesperto | How much overhead is ssh and pulseaudio on a XDMCP LAN connection? |
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| 20:06.39 | derik | how i see if my server was hak ? |
| 20:07.30 | he2 | stew: do i need to reboot? |
| 20:07.41 | stew | he2: did you install a new kernel? |
| 20:07.42 | he2 | stew: after installing a nem linux-image |
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| 20:07.48 | stew | he2: yes |
| 20:07.53 | he2 | ok |
| 20:07.57 | he2 | see u later |
| 20:08.18 | stew | JGuzman: you don't already have udev installed? |
| 20:08.24 | JGuzman | i do not think so |
| 20:08.32 | JGuzman | I have to type ifup eth1 as root |
| 20:08.35 | stew | JGuzman: what version of debian are you running? |
| 20:08.40 | JGuzman | to get my ethernet working |
| 20:08.42 | JGuzman | lenny |
| 20:08.48 | JGuzman | I installed yesterday |
| 20:08.48 | stew | JGuzman: did you compile a custom kernel? |
| 20:08.51 | JGuzman | yes |
| 20:08.55 | stew | JGuzman: and then removed udev? |
| 20:09.02 | JGuzman | I do not thing so |
| 20:09.19 | stew | then you probably have udev installed. what does "dpkg -l udev" say in the first column? "ii"? |
| 20:09.24 | JGuzman | actually, i am not sure what udev or hotplug does.. |
| 20:09.48 | stew | hotplug is long gone, it used to install firmware, now udev does that as well |
| 20:09.49 | JGuzman | ii udev 163-2 /dev/ and hotplug management daemon |
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| 20:10.02 | stew | JGuzman: which driver are you trying to use? |
| 20:10.16 | stew | JGuzman: the second i in ii means it is installed already |
| 20:10.18 | JGuzman | iwlwif |
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| 20:10.32 | JGuzman | stew, trying to install the driver for my wireless |
| 20:10.50 | JGuzman | Inter 5300 I think |
| 20:10.58 | JGuzman | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.13 | stew | judd: pciname 82567LM |
| 20:11.15 | judd | '82567LM' matched: [8086:10cc] '82567LM-2 Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation', [8086:10de] '82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation', [8086:10e5] '82567LM-4 Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation', [8086:10f5] '82567LM Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' |
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| 20:11.23 | JGuzman | I downloaded the driver, and I am just trying to follow the README |
| 20:11.40 | stew | judd: pciid 8086:10f5 |
| 20:11.42 | judd | [8086:10f5] is '82567LM Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'e1000e' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:10f5 |
| 20:12.03 | stew | JGuzman: that's a wired card, not a wireless cardc |
| 20:12.19 | JGuzman | ah ok |
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| 20:12.27 | JGuzman | then my kernel does not recognize it |
| 20:12.36 | JGuzman | sorry |
| 20:12.37 | JGuzman | that one |
| 20:12.37 | stew | JGuzman: is it listed in lspci? |
| 20:12.41 | JGuzman | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.43 | JGuzman | yes, it is |
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| 20:13.09 | stew | judd: pciid 8086:4236 |
| 20:13.10 | judd | [8086:4236] is 'Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300' from 'Intel Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'iwlagn' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4236 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn |
| 20:13.12 | he2 | stew: it works |
| 20:13.17 | he2 | thanks |
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| 20:13.47 | stew | JGuzman: what kernel did you compile? (and why compile your own instead of using one from debian?) |
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| 20:14.19 | JGuzman | stew, I compiled the last one |
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| 20:14.31 | JGuzman | and I did it the traditional way, basically, because this is the only way I know |
| 20:14.38 | JGuzman | I do not know how to compile the debian ones |
| 20:14.46 | stew | why compile anything at all? |
| 20:14.52 | stew | JGuzman: and you are trying to use a driver OTHER than the one that comes with the kernel you compiled? |
| 20:15.03 | JGuzman | in order to recognize my wireless and everythign |
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| 20:15.16 | JGuzman | the problem was that |
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| 20:15.28 | JGuzman | I was not able to enable the driver that comes with the last kernel |
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| 20:15.33 | stew | JGuzman: why not? |
| 20:15.43 | JGuzman | I though, one has to compile the kernel AND to install the firmware |
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| 20:16.29 | stew | JGuzman: yes, its in the firmware-iwlwifi package |
| 20:16.49 | stew | JGuzman: http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn is the recommended way of doing this (without compiling anything) |
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| 20:17.10 | he2 | some suggestions for a window-manager |
| 20:17.19 | JGuzman | ok, I am going to have a look |
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| 20:17.29 | stew | he2: try a bunch until you find one you like |
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| 20:18.22 | antivigilante | is there any way to know which Debian 6.0 beta DVD has the firmware debs linux-2.6.36-trunk avisplit ffmpeg iceweasel 3.6? |
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| 20:19.01 | stew | antivigilante: none would have linux-2.6.36-trunk since that isn't in debian |
| 20:19.11 | derik | how i update to last kernel ? |
| 20:19.20 | stew | antivigilante: and none would have iceweasel 3.6 since that isn't yet in testing (and will probably never be in 6.0) |
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| 20:19.30 | stew | derik: what do you mean by "last"? |
| 20:19.50 | derik | stable version |
| 20:19.54 | stew | antivigilante: but /msg dpkg which cd |
| 20:20.09 | stew | derik: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 20:20.34 | derik | 2.6.18-164.10.1.el5.028stab067.4 |
| 20:20.41 | antivigilante | stew: ok is there a sid/experimental DVD set? |
| 20:20.47 | stew | antivigilante: there isn't one |
| 20:21.02 | stew | antivigilante: it would make no sense, since they change 4 times every day |
| 20:21.07 | _____________ | how long does it take mirrors repos to sync? I want Libreoffice! :) |
| 20:21.13 | stew | derik: you want to upgrade from a redhat kernel to a debian kernel? |
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| 20:21.54 | derik | no i whant to update to a debian |
| 20:21.58 | derik | i use a vps on openvz |
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| 20:22.17 | stew | derik: the kernel you are currently running is a redhat kernel |
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| 20:22.34 | stew | derik: are you sure you are able to upgrade the kernel? |
| 20:22.57 | derik | i don`t know |
| 20:23.37 | Soothsayer | if I have an existing installation of php and mysql |
| 20:23.41 | stew | derik: you should talk to the system administrator |
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| 20:23.58 | Soothsayer | but there is no connector for mysql in php |
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| 20:24.05 | stew | Soothsayer: aptitude install php5-mysql |
| 20:24.11 | Soothsayer | and i want to use mysql_* functions, pdo mysql and mysqli |
| 20:24.16 | Soothsayer | stew: apt-get install php5-mysql php5-mysqli php5-pdo ? |
| 20:24.26 | stew | Soothsayer: aptitude install php5-mysql |
| 20:24.40 | krion | :) |
| 20:24.51 | Soothsayer | stew: that will also do the pdo, mysqli part ? |
| 20:24.54 | derik | what is good apt-get or aptitude ? |
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| 20:25.08 | Soothsayer | oh u mean the aptitute part |
| 20:25.31 | JGuzman | stew, sorry to bother you again, but modprobe iwlagn does not do anything |
| 20:25.43 | JGuzman | just after install ing firmware-iwlwifi and wireless-tools |
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| 20:26.05 | stew | Soothsayer: no, not just the aptitude part, read the description of the php5-mysql package |
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| 20:26.35 | stew | JGuzman: check "dmesg | tail" for errors right after loading the module (which you might need to first remove with "modprobe -r iwlagn" |
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| 20:27.04 | JGuzman | okis! |
| 20:27.29 | stew | derik: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
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| 20:27.58 | Soothsayer | stew: haan, it installs the mysqli & pdo_mysql as well |
| 20:28.01 | derik | how i install aptitude ? |
| 20:28.27 | stew | derik: are you sure its not already installed? |
| 20:28.47 | JGuzman | I think it is working |
| 20:28.56 | JGuzman | yes! |
| 20:28.56 | derik | i type aptitude update and say -bash: aptitude: command not found |
| 20:29.06 | stew | derik: what version of debian are you running? |
| 20:29.13 | derik | 5.06 |
| 20:29.15 | derik | i think |
| 20:29.26 | stew | derik: "apt-get install aptitude" then |
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| 20:29.36 | doomster | heya! |
| 20:30.10 | stew | derik: though as Priority: important, one would expect it to already be installed most of the time |
| 20:30.12 | doomster | anyone with a short recipe to locate all installed packages from a certain repository? |
| 20:30.27 | JGuzman | stew thanks a lot! |
| 20:30.28 | stew | doomster: its not possible, its posible to guess, but not possible to know |
| 20:30.34 | stew | JGuzman: :) |
| 20:30.50 | stew | doomster: which repository? some tag their version numbers making it much easier |
| 20:30.51 | Soothsayer | stew: thanks, that did everything including configuring my php |
| 20:30.57 | JGuzman | now let's see if wicd does the job |
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| 20:32.22 | patrick-- | found it. thanks. |
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| 20:36.31 | JGuzman | I am going to reboot this to see if it works |
| 20:36.39 | JGuzman | stew, thanks a lot! |
| 20:36.44 | JGuzman | see you now |
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| 20:47.50 | chicognu | where is the old kernel config ? |
| 20:48.11 | petemc | chicognu: kernel configs are kept in /boot/ |
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| 20:48.53 | chicognu | petemc, the kernel config to use when I compile a new system ? |
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| 20:49.51 | stew | chicognu: /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 20:49.59 | petemc | chicognu: most people dont bother compiling kernels any more, but sure |
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| 20:50.34 | chicognu | thank both stew petemc |
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| 20:53.18 | derik | what is diference betwen aptitude upgrade and aptitude dist-upgrade ? |
| 20:53.58 | keith4 | ...does aptitude even support "dist-upgrade"? |
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| 20:55.29 | stew | derik: they are renamed "safe-upgrade" and "full-upgrade", but anyway, safe-upgrade will avoid removing packages |
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| 20:56.28 | stew | derik: well safe-upgrade will still remove packages which are marked as auto-installed and no longer needed, but otherwise it will try not to remove them |
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| 20:56.59 | derik | stew you what version use ? safe or full ? |
| 20:57.03 | stew | derik: full-upgrade will more agressivly be willing to remove packages in order to upgrade the currently installed packages |
| 20:57.54 | trebuchet | What is that disk integrity checking software ubuntu(i think) packages by default? It reads SMART and does various tests, as a GTK+ GUI. |
| 20:57.57 | stew | derik: i use full and am CAREFUL to look over what it is going to remove unless it is going to be a huge upgrade, in which case I'll do safe first (and still be careful to check what will be removed) |
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| 20:58.24 | stew | trebuchet: ask #ubuntu |
| 20:58.39 | derik | stew what is diference betwen aptitude upgrade and full-upgrade ? |
| 20:58.41 | trebuchet | I don't know if it is ubuntu though :( |
| 20:58.49 | stew | derik: i just finished telling you |
| 20:58.58 | stew | derik: upgrade was renamed safe-upgrade though |
| 20:59.04 | derik | :D |
| 20:59.05 | derik | sory |
| 20:59.13 | doomster | stew: thanks for the info about the repository. The one I meant was debian-multimedia, alas, they don't have common tags, it seems. |
| 20:59.56 | stew | doomster: the best you can do is to see "what repository currently offers the same version as the one I have installed". that's not "which one did it definitely come from" |
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| 21:00.10 | stew | doomster: and if its no longer available from any repo, but the package is offered by multiple, its less sure |
| 21:00.15 | stew | doomster: but: /msg dpkg which repo |
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| 21:02.42 | doomster | stew: guessed something like that, so it remains manual work. Thank you! |
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| 21:04.00 | keith4 | trebuchet: smart-notifier? |
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| 21:05.45 | djp_ | should i have a ~/.bash_profile file? i don't have one but do have ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile files. |
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| 21:06.37 | stew | djp_: .profile will be used if .bash_profile doesn't exist. you can "ls -a /etc/skel" to see which files a new user gets on your system |
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| 21:07.31 | djp_ | stew: thanks. |
| 21:08.35 | diago | How can I display a banner when a user logs in at the machine or ssh? |
| 21:08.45 | stew | diago: /msg dpkg motd |
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| 21:08.49 | Espindarga | trebuchet: gsmartcontrol is a gui for smart... and smart-notifier is a "notificator" |
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| 21:10.16 | diago | neato thanks stew |
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| 21:13.41 | Lns | Can anyone tell me whether later versions of Gnome available for Lenny installs (i.e. not 2.20) ? I can't find anything in backports or anything else, and I'd rather not run a mixed system..is my only option to upgrade to testing? |
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| 21:16.43 | gandhijee | hi guys, i have a lenny system that i just setup, every once in a while it will hang at populating /dev any ideas on what it might be? |
| 21:17.02 | diago | bad hdd? |
| 21:17.32 | gandhijee | don't think so, i think there is some other hardware issue, but i can't figure out how to pinpoint it |
| 21:17.48 | diago | have you ran SMART on the drives? |
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| 21:18.04 | gandhijee | yes, smart says the drives are OK |
| 21:18.25 | gandhijee | also this can happen if i boot a live CD sometimes as well |
| 21:18.40 | gandhijee | and windows and dos never show this problem |
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| 21:19.00 | stew | judd: versions gnome-session |
| 21:19.03 | judd | Package gnome-session on i386 -- etch: 2.14.3-5; lenny: 2.22.3-2; squeeze: 2.30.2-2; sid: 2.30.2-3 |
| 21:19.14 | stew | Lns: 2.22 is in lenny |
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| 21:21.09 | seeker7 | i am loading ubuntu on a p3 384 RAM 65 GID HD. How long should it take to load when it formats hard drive |
| 21:21.24 | cusco | seeker7: ask in #ubuntu |
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| 21:21.44 | l403 | hello. what would be an alternative to grabbing pics from my camera with gthumb? gthumb segfaults for me and I dont have very much time to be sorting it out right now |
| 21:22.10 | Lns | stew: so it is! so now i'm wondering (I have 2 lenny installs), is it feasable to upgrade (not using source compilation) to 2.30 / 2.32 ? |
| 21:22.18 | diago | l403: can you mount the camera as a drive? |
| 21:22.18 | l403 | seeker7, I dont think that question makes sense. are you booting or formating? |
| 21:22.52 | l403 | diago, of course not. it uses one of those digital cam protocols I dont remember what it is called |
| 21:23.06 | diago | ah |
| 21:23.08 | cusco | l403: cp /media/camera/*jpg /home/bla/pics/ |
| 21:23.17 | cusco | lol |
| 21:23.21 | cusco | gah... |
| 21:23.23 | seeker7 | 1483: i am loading and in that load formatting happens |
| 21:23.47 | l403 | seeker7, you mean diskchecking? |
| 21:24.05 | cusco | he means the installer (probably) |
| 21:24.07 | stew | seeker7: l403: you guys should move this to #ubuntu |
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| 21:25.00 | l403 | I am not gonna guess anything |
| 21:25.02 | seeker7 | stew: I went to that channel and no one answered my question |
| 21:25.29 | l403 | ask for a refund for the Support |
| 21:25.45 | l403 | oh |
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| 21:28.32 | Lns | Sorry if this offends anyone but I read this earlier: "Ubuntu is an ancient African word that means, "Can't install Debian" ;) |
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| 21:29.53 | JPT | mhh |
| 21:29.57 | JPT | lol |
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| 21:30.22 | JPT | that might be true. i could not install debian on a machine because the hdd driver was missing. ubuntu works on that machine now :/ |
| 21:34.17 | l403 | Lns, why would it offend anyone in #debian ? :) |
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| 21:34.19 | ChmEarl | here is my sources.list for squeeze. What should I use for suite? testing or squeeze? http://pastebin.ca/1986731 |
| 21:34.21 | mohadib | howdy |
| 21:34.38 | stew | ChmEarl: when squeeze is released, do you want to be running squeeze or wheezy? |
| 21:34.40 | l403 | go squeeze |
| 21:34.47 | mohadib | whats a good file system for lots of tiny files, i dont need journaling or anything |
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| 21:35.15 | ChmEarl | stew l403 - k, squeeze it is |
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| 21:39.48 | l403 | Lns, Debian in turn is an antient greek word for "I will use chalk and a cave wall while sharpies and whiteboards are available all around just because chalk can§t dry out" |
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| 21:40.08 | stew | points at #debian-offtopic |
| 21:40.53 | streuner__ | stew: we are waiting for you :-P |
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| 21:41.23 | l403 | points at stew and screams "_d_i_s_c_o_"! |
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| 21:44.58 | streuner | (please dont send anybody to #ot...) |
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| 21:49.08 | amphi | stew: wheezy is the next incarnation? |
| 21:49.27 | stew | amphi: yes, its squeeze+1 |
| 21:49.30 | streuner | dpkg, listkeys wheezy |
| 21:49.31 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'wheezy' by key (2): wheezy ;; when will wheezy release. |
| 21:49.37 | amphi | haha |
| 21:49.38 | streuner | dpkg wheezy |
| 21:49.38 | dpkg | The release after squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie), and will be Debian 7.0. |
| 21:50.16 | stew | streuner: uhh, i don't see any reason not to point off-topic people to #debian-offtopic unless something has changed. in which case I'd ask the -ot ops to contact us |
| 21:50.53 | streuner | stew: it doesnt matter much, they just hanging a few minutes there and left ;-) |
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| 21:52.11 | streuner | stew: that what happens to most of them who you send to ot |
| 21:53.45 | streuner | amphi: dpkg ist mostly helpful... ;-) |
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| 21:54.06 | amphi | streuner: so it would seem |
| 21:54.23 | streuner | hehe |
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| 21:55.41 | chicognu | http://pastebin.com/vw9ewgU7 When I try to compiling the kernel I get that erro, but I strong belive I have those packages installed |
| 21:56.50 | JPT | the kernel does not need gtk stuff... try make menuconfig instead ;) |
| 21:59.24 | chicognu | JPT, I will not even comment how unnecessary you answer are |
| 22:00.21 | JPT | :| |
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| 22:00.40 | JPT | it's based on opinion, experience and a quick solution. |
| 22:01.09 | amphi | chicognu: I didn't look at your pastebin, but if you get complaints about missing foos when foos are installed, you probably need to install the various foo-dev packages |
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| 22:02.09 | chicognu | amphi, thanks |
| 22:02.30 | stew | chicognu: look at the Suggests for the linux source package |
| 22:04.19 | chicognu | stew, the linux source is already installed, and I din't look at suggested packages, how do I look again ? reinstalling the linux source ? |
| 22:04.36 | stew | chicognu: dpkg -s packagename ; or apt-cache show packagename |
| 22:05.51 | atan | I need a simple tftp server for Debian. I'd prefer something quick I can apt-get. It needs to limit itself to only listening on one interface, we'll say 10.0.0.1. |
| 22:06.01 | gandhijee | atftp |
| 22:06.42 | atan | gandhijee, thank you |
| 22:06.52 | atan | Do you happen to know the location of the config file once I apt-get it? |
| 22:07.06 | atan | I presume /etc/atftp? |
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| 22:07.57 | streuner | in Linux config files live in /etc usually |
| 22:08.25 | streuner | usually |
| 22:08.39 | streuner | if its opensource |
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| 22:12.25 | stew | atan: it depends on if you run it standalone or with inetd, either way, you should see the docs in /usr/share/doc/atftpd after installing it, especially a README.Debian if one exists |
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| 22:12.52 | stew | and ALL config files should be in /etc in any software you get from debian |
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| 22:18.19 | niklaswe | does someone know how i can fix so my system always update packages exept packages i have specify? |
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| 22:19.21 | niklaswe | i mean let us say that i running apt-get upgrade, and i have a file with pacakges name that apt-get shouldn´t upgrade.. does someone know any idé to fix that? |
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| 22:21.51 | xteejx | Hi all, I'm having problems accessing the Debian QA site. Firefox keeps asking to save the php files |
| 22:22.28 | streuner | must be an error then |
| 22:22.45 | streuner | just give us the URL to check out |
| 22:23.13 | xteejx | http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=packages@qa.debian.org http://qa.debian.org/orphaned.html http://qa.debian.org/debcheck.php etc |
| 22:23.22 | xteejx | any other php page/site is fine |
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| 22:24.52 | atan | I don't see anything about how to limit atftpd to one IP address =\ |
| 22:25.45 | atan | I see an entry in inetd.conf |
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| 22:26.04 | atan | Perhaps that's where I would go to adjust this? |
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| 22:27.08 | xteejx | streuner: Do you have the same problem with the website? |
| 22:27.08 | fnbewji | good evening |
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| 22:27.38 | streuner | xteejx: yes, #debian-www told me to fix it |
| 22:27.58 | xteejx | Ohhh right Ok :) |
| 22:28.09 | xteejx | btw thank you |
| 22:28.46 | atan | Is mcast-addr=239... whatever the IP address it binds to? |
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| 22:30.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | is a kernel crash something bad? |
| 22:31.17 | streuner | in theory kernels should never crash, so... |
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| 22:31.39 | fnbewji | does Samba require a recent version of the Linux kernel to work properly? |
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| 22:32.05 | SwedeMike | fnbewji: I ran samba back in kernel 1.3 days in the mid 90ties, so no. |
| 22:32.36 | fnbewji | even the latest version? |
| 22:33.18 | tensorpudding | how old of a kernel version are you talking? |
| 22:33.27 | fnbewji | 2.6.8 |
| 22:33.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | streuner: well I've a crash dump in dmesg and kerneloops popped up |
| 22:33.43 | streuner | kerneloops are very bad |
| 22:33.51 | tensorpudding | that is an old kernel, but surely samba would work with it |
| 22:33.53 | streuner | what kind of kernel? |
| 22:34.09 | streuner | custom kernel? |
| 22:34.15 | KaffeeJunky123 | streuner: the normal debian lenny kernel |
| 22:34.18 | KaffeeJunky123 | stock kernel |
| 22:34.21 | KaffeeJunky123 | is that the right name? |
| 22:34.26 | streuner | great :-) |
| 22:34.29 | fnbewji | kind of, it's a modified kernel for an Xbox |
| 22:34.47 | KaffeeJunky123 | but it's corrupted by nvidia |
| 22:34.52 | tensorpudding | thought there might be some lacking drivers |
| 22:35.10 | streuner | KaffeeJunky123: so you are using some third party driver? |
| 22:35.15 | fnbewji | well, I am running it headless |
| 22:35.21 | KaffeeJunky123 | streuner: yes |
| 22:35.33 | fnbewji | so don't really know about video output issues |
| 22:35.34 | tensorpudding | why are you using such an old version of the kernel? |
| 22:35.43 | KaffeeJunky123 | streuner: but I'm not sure if they're causing the issue I'll paste the crash dump |
| 22:35.53 | streuner | well, easy solution, just change the hardware in order to use Linux driver (opensource) |
| 22:36.01 | fnbewji | because I couldn't find a newer one for the Xbox |
| 22:36.14 | fnbewji | and have read a stock kernel wouldn't boot |
| 22:36.22 | fnbewji | due to the xbox not having PCI |
| 22:37.03 | KaffeeJunky123 | streuner: http://pastie.org/1285640 |
| 22:37.16 | fnbewji | also, I wouldn't know how to compile a kernel from source |
| 22:37.20 | tensorpudding | that's possible |
| 22:37.32 | fnbewji | much less patch it to make it boot |
| 22:37.42 | xteejx | fnbewji: Have you tried googling for xboxlinux? |
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| 22:37.54 | fnbewji | yes |
| 22:38.13 | fnbewji | as a matter of fact I started off with xebian |
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| 22:38.18 | xteejx | Is this the classic or the 360? |
| 22:38.22 | tensorpudding | it's very possible that the distros patched to work on the xbox haven't kept up-to-date with kernel versions |
| 22:38.27 | fnbewji | which is a modified sarge on kernel 2.4 |
| 22:38.46 | fnbewji | managed to get and install a 2.6.8 kernel deb+ |
| 22:38.54 | xteejx | it could even be that patches haven't been carried forward, lack of support or something |
| 22:39.00 | fnbewji | and then apt-got my way to lenny |
| 22:39.18 | tensorpudding | huh, you could update it to Lenny, but you were stuck with 2.6.8? |
| 22:39.24 | xteejx | Very stange |
| 22:39.31 | xteejx | s/stange/strange |
| 22:39.36 | fnbewji | as I understand it |
| 22:39.52 | fnbewji | upgrading debian does not upograde the kernel |
| 22:40.05 | fnbewji | which is probably why my xbox still boots |
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| 22:40.32 | tensorpudding | when sarge released, it had 2.6 by default |
| 22:40.39 | xteejx | AFAIK it does upgrade the kernel, but there would be 2 boot entries in grub for both the old/new |
| 22:41.17 | fnbewji | tbh, I am not really sure the kernel is the culprit |
| 22:41.38 | xteejx | well if you're getting kerneloops and/or kernel crash dumps then yes it is |
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| 22:42.09 | dylanB_UCD | hi |
| 22:42.14 | fnbewji | but I am not, what I am getting is unusable samba shares |
| 22:42.30 | fnbewji | in spite of having tried everything I could find |
| 22:42.32 | xteejx | fnbewji: are you able to access the log files in /var or have a screen capture of the dump itself or anything? |
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| 22:42.50 | xteejx | Ohhhhhh sorry I've totally misread the problem |
| 22:43.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | I'm the one getting kerneloops :> |
| 22:43.09 | KaffeeJunky123 | atleast once |
| 22:43.14 | fnbewji | can I dump the log here? |
| 22:43.17 | xteejx | Stupid question but have you installed samba? |
| 22:43.25 | xteejx | God no, don't dump it here |
| 22:43.31 | KaffeeJunky123 | fnbewji: paste it to pastie.org or similar |
| 22:43.37 | xteejx | http://paste.ubuntu.com/ or something |
| 22:43.50 | fnbewji | kk |
| 22:43.55 | dylanB_UCD | any ideas what could be causing most of the KDE / Qt libraries to have unresolved symbols? |
| 22:44.05 | xteejx | KaffeeJunky123: Sorry about the confusion with the oops's :) |
| 22:44.08 | dylanB_UCD | recently did a safe-upgrade to squeeze/sid |
| 22:44.14 | xteejx | has oops'd |
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| 22:44.47 | xteejx | dylanB_UCD: Which one, squeeze or sid? |
| 22:44.53 | xteejx | They are two different things |
| 22:45.05 | dylanB_UCD | i see this in /etc/debian_version: squeeze/sid |
| 22:45.31 | xteejx | dylanB_UCD: Do you remember what you installed? |
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| 22:45.51 | dylanB_UCD | this is an old install from sarge days, that has been periodically dist-upgraded |
| 22:45.52 | fnbewji | ok got it http://paste.ubuntu.com/528958/ |
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| 22:46.23 | dylanB_UCD | but, for the last couple of years I have been tracking unstabel |
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| 22:47.27 | xteejx | dylanB_UCD: If you're tracking unstable, expect breakages. I *believe* (anyone correct me) that many packages in sid will have messed up libs/symbols because of the new gcc transition |
| 22:47.52 | dylanB_UCD | ack... is there anway to go back to squeeze? |
| 22:48.04 | xteejx | Not all packages have been patched, this might be the problem. All I can suggest is check Ubuntu's packages, and fix them in Deb if poss |
| 22:48.24 | dylanB_UCD | can I mix repos? |
| 22:48.26 | xteejx | Ermmm...I think you're out of luck on that one sadly :( |
| 22:48.30 | fnbewji | and here is my smb.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/528961/ |
| 22:48.45 | xteejx | dylanB_UCD: You can use apt pinning, but at this point with you being completely in sid, I doubt it'll help |
| 22:48.48 | fnbewji | why do u think so? |
| 22:48.55 | fnbewji | :( |
| 22:49.58 | xteejx | fnbewji: I'm no good with samba, someone wil be able to help, if not try #samba :) |
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| 22:50.18 | fnbewji | also on freenode? |
| 22:50.45 | dylanB_UCD | hmmm... thanks for the info xteejx, any further tips on things I could check? |
| 22:53.21 | mohadib | whats a good file system for lots of tiny files, i dont need journaling or anything? |
| 22:53.56 | streuner | dpkg, fs |
| 22:53.56 | dpkg | Journaling filesystems in a nutshell: <peterS> fast but dangerous: reiserfs. medium-speed but reliable: ext3. fast, mostly reliable, and *huge*: xfs. slow, probably reliable: jfs. unknown, probably buggy: reiser4. If you have to ask, use <ext3>. Old benchmarks at http://fsbench.netnation.com/ . http://wiki.debian.org/FileSystem #linuxfs on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 22:54.37 | streuner | dpkg, start a fs war |
| 22:54.37 | dpkg | Sigh, just use ext3 already. |
| 22:54.46 | streuner | here we go :-P |
| 22:55.22 | mohadib | lol |
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| 22:55.38 | cusco | !start a bot war |
| 22:55.38 | dpkg | debhelper is way better than apt |
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| 22:55.47 | cusco | lol |
| 22:55.57 | cusco | lolgah |
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| 22:56.10 | cusco | there would be one where he would ~trigger other bots |
| 22:56.44 | dylanB_UCD | so, when I install something it looks like it is coming from the 'squeeze' repo |
| 22:56.59 | dylanB_UCD | even though i seem to be tracking squeeze/sid |
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| 22:57.19 | dylanB_UCD | how can I tell what I am actually tracking? |
| 22:57.31 | cusco | what does he mean by *huge* |
| 22:57.34 | cusco | about xfs? |
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| 22:59.01 | themill | dylanB_UCD: only you can know that by looking at your sources.list (and perhaps pinning). /msg dpkg squeeze/sid |
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| 23:07.26 | eshat | Hi all |
| 23:07.54 | eshat | I am interested in supporting the debian project and read a lot on d.o about maintaining and so on |
| 23:08.54 | atan | How do you restart inetd? =S |
| 23:09.12 | atan | I see references to /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart on but that does not exist (and it's not openbsd?) |
| 23:09.22 | atan | I don't see any inet stuff in /etc/init.d actually |
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| 23:12.20 | atan | foolishly installs openbsd-inetd then goes to wait in the corner |
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| 23:16.06 | Wicla | What might be wrong if when chrooting to a enviroment (created by makejail) is returning "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory". /bin/bash and it's libraries do exist in the enviroment. It's the same when using a modified init-script which chroots. |
| 23:16.17 | Wicla | *its |
| 23:17.17 | Wicla | when trying to the run service that is suposed to be run in the chrooted enviroment that is. |
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| 23:19.52 | gandhijee | any know how to figure out at what point udev is hanging? |
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| 23:21.30 | lynx- | How do I use a pygtk script that says File "/usr/local/share/gameconqueror/GameConqueror.py", line 114, in __init__ self.builder.add_from_file(os.path.join(WORK_DIR, 'GameConqueror.xml')) |
| 23:21.38 | lynx- | gobject.GError: Unhandled tag: 'requires' |
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| 23:21.45 | lynx- | I SAID HOW DO I DO IT |
| 23:22.04 | Sevalecpp | har |
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| 23:23.01 | lynx- | what does unhandled tag requires mean |
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| 23:25.21 | Bushmills | lynx-: if folks don't reply, threatening them may help. for example "if you don't tell me, i'll spam the channel" |
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| 23:26.03 | lynx- | rum dum, fuckity dug dug fucker |
| 23:26.04 | themill | lynx-: try asking the people who wrote that script. |
| 23:26.08 | lynx- | fuck diddeley daddy |
| 23:26.09 | lynx- | thanks |
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| 23:26.26 | themill | lynx-: and how about taking a break from #debian while you do so. |
| 23:26.56 | Sevalecpp | Bushmills: I agree. |
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| 23:27.22 | Sevalecpp | "you've got one last chance to respond, or I'll DoS you in the face!" |
| 23:28.00 | Bushmills | "..i'll chloroform your poodle dog" |
| 23:28.17 | robokop | !ot |
| 23:28.18 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 23:32.19 | Wicla | Anyone used chrooted enviroment for services here or at all. I've made a chroot enviroment for ircd-ratbox (with makejail). But I'm unable to chroot into that enviroment because "chroot: cannot run command `/in/bash': No such file or directory. Same goes for the init-script when changed to chroot before the enviroment (but it no such file or directory for the ircd-ratbox). I'm 100% the files exist. But this error is still returned. Any ... |
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| 23:32.25 | Wicla | ... ideas? |
| 23:32.54 | Bushmills | shouldn't that be /bin/bash? |
| 23:33.15 | Wicla | ah yeah right. Was hand-written and not copied. Returned /bin/bash ... |
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| 23:34.29 | Bushmills | is there a /bin/bash in your chroot? |
| 23:34.49 | blueyed | Wicla: try "chroot $path /bin/sh" |
| 23:35.18 | Wicla | Tried. Same error. Yes /bin/bash exists in the chroot enviroment. |
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| 23:37.02 | Bushmills | try without /bin/(ba)sh at the end of command. just chroot $path |
| 23:37.11 | dondelelcaro | Wicla: and does chroot /path/to/chroot /bin/ls; or similar return? |
| 23:37.19 | dondelelcaro | Wicla: how did you make this chroot? |
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| 23:37.37 | Wicla | dondelelcaro: it's made with makejail for ircd-ratbox (and ratbox-services) |
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| 23:38.13 | Wicla | Bushmills: done both with no success. Are it expected to get "No such file or directory" if libs are missing? |
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| 23:39.00 | dondelelcaro | Wicla: run ls -lR /path/to/chroot; and give us the output |
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| 23:39.43 | km | what need to be running in order to use snmpwalk get snmp values? |
| 23:40.01 | dondelelcaro | Wicla: and it might also be interesting to see the output of chroot /path/to/chroot /bin/bash -c 'echo 1'; or similar |
| 23:40.21 | dondelelcaro | (or strace with the same) |
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| 23:42.15 | Wicla | http://pastebin.com/HQwvXnxb for first output (ls -lR) |
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| 23:42.18 | Guest24105 | so |
| 23:43.24 | Wicla | second command: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 23:43.47 | atan | Err. I am not sure if this is what caused it or not, but I installed openbsd-inetd and now my VPN server won't accept connections |
| 23:44.07 | atan | If it's on the server waiting for connections do I need to change something in inetd? |
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| 23:44.16 | dondelelcaro | Wicla: you're missing /lib/ld-linux et al. |
| 23:44.25 | Wicla | strace of the command gave some intersting output |
| 23:44.51 | Bushmills | Wicla: just guessing: bash is missing a file it needs. possibly a device file in /dev. tty maybe. |
| 23:45.29 | dondelelcaro | yeah; you are missing /dev entirely in the chroot too |
| 23:45.37 | Wicla | well tbh I'm not really in need of /bin/bash. Just thought it was wierd that nothing the chroot would execute. But files is missing indeed |
| 23:45.42 | Bushmills | creating <chroot>/dev, and mount --bind your /dev to <chroot>/dev could help you testing that |
| 23:46.13 | dondelelcaro | Wicla: things in the chroot will execute, but you need to have everything there. strace will tell you what files are missing so you can piece them together, too. |
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| 23:47.11 | Wicla | thanks for all the help Bushmills and dondelelcaro |
| 23:47.15 | dondelelcaro | np; good luck |
| 23:47.17 | Bushmills | gl |
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| 23:48.51 | Bushmills | atan: openvpn (i assume) and inetd should not affect each other |
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| 23:49.22 | atan | Bushmills, err. Perhaps it's time to reboot the server then. |
| 23:49.43 | robokop | atan: wait, what is your /etc/inetd.conf |
| 23:50.02 | atan | robokop, the only thing other than comments was one on atftp |
| 23:50.06 | atan | atftpd even |
| 23:50.18 | Bushmills | check your openvpn logs |
| 23:50.34 | Wicla | dondelelcaro: Are there any application which lets you chroot and change user at the same time? Would be nice to test ircd-ratbox properly |
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| 23:50.46 | atan | Client logs say failed, will try again in 5 seconds: Connection timed out |
| 23:51.09 | Bushmills | firewall, or openvpn server not running. |
| 23:51.10 | robokop | atan: nmap localhost can help too |
| 23:51.23 | atan | Bushmills, server shows Initialization Sequence Completed |
| 23:52.03 | atan | nmap localhost shows that VPN is showing up |
| 23:52.22 | atan | It's not labeled correctly, but maybe that's just because I have it running tcp on port 443 right now |
| 23:52.26 | atan | it shows as https |
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| 23:52.44 | Bushmills | your client tries to connect to udp, your server run on tcp ... |
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| 23:53.46 | RetroGamer | hi guys...hoping you can help, apt isn't working for me...it keeps getting stuck at "waiting for headers" no matter what I try (apt-get update was the last attempt) yet the repo in my sources.list is pinging fine |
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| 23:54.22 | Bushmills | !etch |
| 23:54.22 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 23:54.36 | atan | Client is showing as trying to connect using TCP =\ |
| 23:54.49 | atan | The openvpn settings were working just fine though, which I find odd =| |
| 23:54.52 | themill | RetroGamer: so is this debian or ubuntu? |
| 23:55.13 | atan | Maybe the router can't get out to the net for some reason, let me see if it can see anything outside itself |
| 23:55.19 | RetroGamer | themill, ubuntu...but I have asked my question 6 times in the channel and been ignored, so I was hoping you could help |
| 23:55.42 | RetroGamer | I've always found the debian community to be quite helpful |
| 23:56.00 | Bushmills | it is not exactly that debian folks keep track of availability of ubuntu servers |
| 23:56.06 | stew | RetroGamer: try a ubuntu mailing list or web forum if you cannot get help from them in irc. perhaps askubuntu.com |
| 23:56.07 | themill | RetroGamer: if there are problems with an ubuntu mirror then #ubuntu will help. Please respect that the volunteers are here for people who run debian. |
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| 23:56.40 | atan | Oh my god. I feel like a total idiot right now |
| 23:56.43 | atan | Found the issue. |
| 23:57.07 | atan | Somehow the ethernet cable came unplugged from the wall. Figures. Just bloody figures. |
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| 23:57.23 | atan | Bushmills, robokop, thank you just the same though there guys! |
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| 23:57.52 | yhager | Is there a way to tell dpkg - "I have compiled this from source, and now running 'make install' - please remember where these files came from" ? |
| 23:58.03 | Bushmills | hm. i actually forgot "cable undone" from my list of possibilities |
| 23:58.07 | robokop | argh, forgot rule 2 of tech-support |
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| 23:59.05 | silverballz | !kernelmodule |
| 23:59.30 | Bushmills | atan: ask on #openvpn to add "..or your cable" to the topic where it says "it is your firewall" please |