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| 00:05.30 | greenmantis | hello! i'm having problems with samba under a debian trying to connect with w7... could someone give me a hand plz? |
| 00:06.30 | jhutchins_lt | greenmantis: debian as client or server? |
| 00:06.57 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: well, i tried both ways already |
| 00:07.20 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: but all i need is read and write on a single debian's folder |
| 00:07.38 | fossrox | greenmantis, reformat the 7sins :D |
| 00:08.02 | kristian-aalborg | netinst is a bright idea, btw |
| 00:08.09 | jhutchins_lt | So server, and which version of w7? What is the expected and presenting behavior? |
| 00:08.33 | jhutchins_lt | kristian-aalborg: Yes, yes it is. |
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| 00:09.06 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: ultimate... i try to log in with it, put the correct user and it says wrong username/pass |
| 00:09.31 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: then i check the logs and i get something like this: *pastebinning it* |
| 00:09.38 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, encryption. Dunno exact details, but w7 is not the same as nt by default. |
| 00:09.52 | jhutchins_lt | (NT was the last windows I really worked with) |
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| 00:11.14 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: http://pastebin.com/HwSKzpnz |
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| 00:12.17 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: i'm using debian as a web server (classic LAMP) and i need to access it so i could develop on it |
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| 00:12.43 | jhutchins_lt | I found some threads about it in the various forums, but rather than solve it I just blew windows away and installed Debian. |
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| 00:13.01 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: yeah... i got those too |
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| 00:13.12 | jhutchins_lt | sftp. |
| 00:13.34 | jhutchins_lt | Better yet, install Debian on the desktop and start migrating to it. |
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| 00:14.09 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: i can't migrate because there's M$ software on w7 (i wish i could migrate) |
| 00:14.23 | jhutchins_lt | I bought a $200 netbook and could have easily spent $600 on software for it, but ended up just spending $200. |
| 00:14.42 | jhutchins_lt | greenmantis: You'd be surprized how well Linux does. I haven't used Windows since 2004. |
| 00:14.51 | jhutchins_lt | You really don't need it. |
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| 00:15.12 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: i really don't... but the other developers do |
| 00:15.15 | jhutchins_lt | in any case, the solution is out there, share the folder with samba. |
| 00:15.59 | jhutchins_lt | w7 changed some of the networking defaults but it's not hard to get them working again. |
| 00:16.06 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: i already used gentoo, debian, arch linux and other distros... i really like linux... |
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| 00:16.33 | jhutchins_lt | greenmantis: There's also #samba both here and on oftc,net, but be sure you've been through the forums first. |
| 00:16.54 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: i c... so the problem is stupid w7's config... i'm looking for the problem on the wrong side |
| 00:16.55 | fossrox | greenmantis, if you really need to run some win-$tuff, run it in virtual box |
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| 00:17.22 | jhutchins_lt | greenmantis: You need a good base config on the samba box, but yes, it's w7. |
| 00:17.28 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: #samba doesn't answers me... 20 min since i did the question |
| 00:17.42 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: i have no hardware for that... |
| 00:18.13 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: debian's running under a amd k6-2, since it's a testing server and the app is not really heavy |
| 00:18.21 | fossrox | greenmantis, even M$hit does it http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/17/wwwmicrosoftcom_runs_linux_up_to_a_point_.html |
| 00:19.30 | kristian-aalborg | hurm |
| 00:19.47 | greenmantis | thx anyway guys =] |
| 00:20.06 | kristian-aalborg | how long should I wait after "loading additional modules" and nothing happens before I consider it a failure? |
| 00:20.07 | greenmantis | i'll try to fix that up and if i do, i'll hit back in here again |
| 00:22.58 | Pundir | can someone shoot me a livecd link for debiangnome 5.07?? |
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| 00:27.42 | khem_ | what is wrong with my networking configuration: http://pastebin.com/Xzyn5b7Y ? it wont assign a ip, netmask, gateway etc for my eth0 |
| 00:28.27 | khem_ | http://pastebin.com/1QK26xRg this URL might work better |
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| 00:29.33 | Pundir | where can I download a livecd of debian |
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| 00:30.01 | khem_ | Pundir: not sure if there exists one |
| 00:30.22 | Pundir | wha?? |
| 00:30.30 | Pundir | How is one supposed to evaluate |
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| 00:34.09 | Pundir | khem_: can debian and windows be installed on the same HD? |
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| 00:34.36 | Kurin | What's the Done Thing for managing automatic upgrades on many servers? |
| 00:34.52 | khem_ | Pundir: Sure thing. |
| 00:35.07 | Pundir | cool |
| 00:35.22 | stew | Pundir: neither your broadcast nor your gateway addresses are on your subnet |
| 00:35.41 | stew | you should not specify broadcast at all unless you are doing something very nonstandard and really know what you are doing |
| 00:36.00 | stew | Pundir: one of gateway/netmask/ip address must be wrong |
| 00:36.16 | kristian-aalborg | would "lowmem" be wise of me to chose during install? |
| 00:36.32 | Pundir | stew are you sure your talking to me :)? |
| 00:36.44 | stew | oh |
| 00:36.53 | stew | khem_: all the things I said to Pundir were for you |
| 00:37.10 | Pundir | :) |
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| 00:37.30 | khem_ | stew: ok =P |
| 00:38.04 | Kurin | Is there a package that handles it or should I just write a shell script? |
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| 00:39.16 | Pundir | stew, you got a knowledge of debian |
| 00:39.51 | Pundir | stew, if you put the debian cd in, does it boot to install |
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| 00:40.25 | Pundir | There is no livecd apparant;y |
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| 00:40.55 | stew | Pundir: yes. and yes there is a livecd too |
| 00:41.02 | factor | How can I install kde3.5 devs and kde5 devs? |
| 00:41.11 | Pundir | stew? Yaa? |
| 00:41.17 | Pundir | For the newest |
| 00:41.20 | stew | Pundir: /msg dpkg ig ; /msg dpkg live |
| 00:41.56 | Pundir | stew can you send me the link where to get the livecd? |
| 00:42.11 | stew | Pundir: if you "/msg dpkg live", she can |
| 00:42.13 | Pundir | where to download the livecd |
| 00:42.22 | Pundir | ok |
| 00:42.28 | Pundir | she..lol? |
| 00:42.35 | stew | dpkg: gender |
| 00:42.35 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 00:43.03 | stew | her gender might be more fluid than you are used to |
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| 00:43.40 | Pundir | nothing is happeneing when I type it |
| 00:43.55 | stew | dpkg: tell Pundir about live |
| 00:43.56 | jhutchins_lt | Pundir: Look more closely. |
| 00:44.13 | Pundir | ohh its in PM |
| 00:44.19 | Pundir | I se |
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| 00:44.44 | pyther | Hello |
| 00:44.50 | pyther | Is there a channel for debian live? |
| 00:44.59 | Pundir | Isstew is it debian squeeze? |
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| 00:45.03 | Pundir | stew |
| 00:45.07 | stew | Pundir: yes, and lenny |
| 00:45.17 | Pundir | stew.. it says its 1.1gb? |
| 00:45.52 | stew | and several ~600mb and several ~130mb and a couple ~450mb |
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| 00:46.56 | Pundir | stew the gnome desktop says its 1.1gb |
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| 00:47.20 | Pundir | why is it so big? |
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| 00:48.16 | khem_ | Pundir: I specified everything correctly, I dont know if there is something wrong with xen - But it worked on my previous virtual machine with same config |
| 00:48.50 | Pundir | khem_: what did |
| 00:49.51 | khem_ | oh sorry |
| 00:49.55 | khem_ | that message was to stew |
| 00:49.56 | Pundir | :D |
| 00:50.03 | Pundir | no worries |
| 00:51.30 | stew | khem_: i was looking at this: http://pastebin.com/Xzyn5b7Y |
| 00:52.39 | kj4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.08 | Pundir | So if you want to install debian do you download the net install |
| 00:53.11 | Pundir | the one thats 150mb? |
| 00:53.43 | stew | Pundir: thats the most often recommended way, but there are many: /msg dpkg ig |
| 00:53.54 | kristian-aalborg | hurm |
| 00:54.05 | Pundir | stew well then I will just take that way |
| 00:54.06 | kristian-aalborg | end_request: i/o error, dev fd0, sector 0 |
| 00:54.08 | kristian-aalborg | hurm |
| 00:54.09 | Pundir | stew does it have gnome? |
| 00:54.36 | kristian-aalborg | the installer hangs and I get a lot of these if I swith to another tty |
| 00:54.48 | kristian-aalborg | also, it mentions FAT |
| 00:55.16 | dvs | Pundir: no, but can get it over the net |
| 00:55.17 | khem_ | stew: yes |
| 00:55.44 | khem_ | stew: those are correct. i removed broadcast though but it wont work :-( |
| 00:55.50 | khem_ | both broadcast and network remove d |
| 00:55.52 | stew | khem_: those are not correct |
| 00:56.03 | Pundir | dvs: so it just comes with command interface? |
| 00:56.36 | dvs | Pundir: it downloads the packages over the internet. The image is just an installer. |
| 00:56.41 | khem_ | stew: how come? |
| 00:57.02 | Pundir | ok dvs |
| 00:57.21 | stew | Pundir: it comes with very little. it will prompt you for (among other things) a desktop system, which by default would be gnome |
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| 00:57.46 | stew | khem_: because your gateway is not contained in the network you are specifying |
| 00:58.27 | Pundir | stew, then which one comes with gnome |
| 00:58.41 | khem_ | stew: yes the gateway are 95.211.132.x just as everything else? |
| 00:58.43 | stew | Pundir: what do you mean by "comes with"? |
| 00:58.58 | dvs | Pundir: As i said before, the CD in |
| 00:58.59 | Pundir | stew which one is the full install |
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| 00:59.05 | dvs | is just an installer |
| 00:59.11 | stew | khem_: if your gateway is correct then your netmask is incorrect |
| 00:59.19 | stew | Pundir: what is a "full install"? |
| 00:59.30 | stew | Pundir: if you want gnome, any installer will allow you to install gnome |
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| 00:59.47 | khem_ | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr E0:CB:4E:39:13:1F inet addr:95.211.132.66 Bcast:95.211.132.95 Mask:255.255.255.224 |
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| 00:59.59 | khem_ | (internet works on this machine) |
| 01:00.01 | Pundir | Ok, so which debian file should be downloaded for someone who wants to use debian |
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| 01:00.17 | khem_ | whats the command to display gateway? |
| 01:00.20 | Pundir | it says there are 30 cds |
| 01:00.22 | sigmonsays | Anyone know where to find rhythmbox community on irc? |
| 01:00.31 | khem_ | and i will see what gateway is used on that box that Internet works |
| 01:00.46 | dvs | Pundir: netinst if you have a wired internet connection |
| 01:01.03 | Pundir | No i'm on xp now |
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| 01:02.01 | dvs | Pundir: a physical wired internet connection |
| 01:02.05 | liable_ | !seen Guerin |
| 01:02.06 | dpkg | liable_: i haven't seen 'guerin' |
| 01:02.25 | kristian-aalborg | !seen kristian-aalborg |
| 01:02.25 | dpkg | kristian-aalborg is currently on #debian (5h 16m 35s). Has said a total of 105 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '!seen kristian-aalborg'. |
| 01:02.33 | Pundir | dsv so what your implying is that there is no full installation cd |
| 01:02.40 | Pundir | it has to be done through a basic installer |
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| 01:02.52 | Pundir | and then with a wired connection you download gnome seperatly |
| 01:03.17 | dvs | Pundir: you want to install from CDs? |
| 01:03.27 | Pundir | yes |
| 01:03.55 | Pundir | but 30 cd's is too much |
| 01:04.09 | Pundir | I just want the basic insall |
| 01:04.12 | kristian-aalborg | I just booted from a livecd and deleted some partitions (to use for debian) - could this be the reason for this? |
| 01:04.15 | Pundir | like ubuntu |
| 01:04.39 | kristian-aalborg | AFAICT, the installer has not even looked for a place to put files when this happens |
| 01:04.50 | dvs | Pundir: you can download the number of CDs you want out of the 30 |
| 01:05.03 | dvs | Pundir: but you have to start from 1 |
| 01:05.15 | Pundir | does 1 have everything? |
| 01:05.21 | dvs | no |
| 01:05.24 | Pundir | all the nessessary files to run? |
| 01:05.47 | dvs | Pundir: the first CD has everything to get started |
| 01:05.47 | Pundir | what in the hel is on so many cd's?? |
| 01:06.01 | Pundir | what are the others? |
| 01:06.08 | Pundir | thats a lot of cd;s |
| 01:06.26 | Kurin | packages you'll never use |
| 01:06.38 | Kurin | honestly I think the way to go is netboot + download whatever you actually install |
| 01:06.39 | Pundir | then why would they release them' |
| 01:06.44 | dvs | Pundir: the other CD have more packages but why download all the CDs if you have download packages from the internet as you need them? |
| 01:06.45 | Kurin | Well YOU might not use them |
| 01:06.55 | Kurin | the sum total of debian users tend to reach all of them eventually |
| 01:07.06 | dvs | /if you have/if you can/ |
| 01:07.09 | Pundir | what do they contain? |
| 01:07.16 | Kurin | software |
| 01:07.47 | Pundir | so does cd1 have some software like web browser |
| 01:07.54 | heg | Pundir: 20'000 software ? |
| 01:08.00 | dvs | Pundir: you can look at the .jigdo files if you want to see what is exactly on each CD |
| 01:08.13 | Kurin | I think the most used software is probably on cd1, but seriously, you can get the same stuff from the internet |
| 01:08.58 | Pundir | krin ok |
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| 01:09.25 | Pundir | Kurin: now does cd1 come with gnome? |
| 01:09.30 | Kurin | I don't know |
| 01:10.12 | peterrooney | Pundir: all the CDs are there in case you're going to be installing rare software selections on non-networked machines. |
| 01:10.27 | Pundir | ok peterrooney |
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| 01:11.13 | heg | Kurin: use netinstall, with the the default installation you get gnome |
| 01:11.17 | peterrooney | Pundir: it's not an everyday occurance, but it is a normal and predictable one. |
| 01:11.32 | Pundir | peterrooney: ok |
| 01:11.41 | Pundir | its surprising its so huge |
| 01:11.46 | heg | Kurin: sry, it was for Pundir |
| 01:11.50 | Pundir | but ya, 20,000 softwares |
| 01:12.25 | Pundir | debian seems like one sophisticated os |
| 01:12.49 | Kurin | Until you install it on a server that uses bnx2 network cards |
| 01:12.53 | Pundir | but honestly..how do you guys memorize all these commands |
| 01:13.04 | Kurin | then it's torn hair and rent garments |
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| 01:13.38 | Pundir | how long does it take to learn and use these types of os's |
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| 01:13.47 | heg | Pudir: for starting you don't need a lot commands |
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| 01:13.49 | Scotepi | its been a while since ive used Debian, I reinstalled my home server with it using a netinstal and was amazed that it still doesnt have php 5.3, is there any way I can get it from the main mirror? |
| 01:13.49 | dvs | years |
| 01:14.39 | Pundir | dvs: man!! |
| 01:14.42 | Pundir | lol |
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| 01:16.23 | dvs | scotepi: squeeze will have it |
| 01:16.27 | Pundir | is debian similar to slackware? |
| 01:16.57 | scotepi | no, debian is actualy useable, lol |
| 01:17.02 | Bushmills | they both use linux as operating system kernel, if you mean that |
| 01:17.06 | dvs | scotepi: ha |
| 01:17.20 | scotepi | i worked at a company for 3 years that swore by slackware |
| 01:17.26 | Pundir | Bushmills: well slackware they have numerous cd's too right |
| 01:17.37 | Pundir | and its up to you to download and install what you want |
| 01:17.42 | scotepi | back then i was in love with gentoo, then i grew up and relized debian is just as good as gentoo and i dont need to wait years |
| 01:17.53 | Bushmills | in that respect, debian is similar. |
| 01:18.02 | Bushmills | (install what you want) |
| 01:18.10 | dvs | scotepi: and you don't have to wait years with Debian? ;-) |
| 01:18.19 | Pundir | years for what? |
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| 01:18.27 | scotepi | as fast as i can download i can install it |
| 01:18.30 | Bushmills | to install a package :) |
| 01:18.31 | dvs | between releases |
| 01:18.51 | scotepi | and my debian box is a 8yo 2.6ghz athlon xp |
| 01:18.59 | Pundir | well gentoo is for building your own right? |
| 01:19.10 | Pundir | athlons are fast |
| 01:19.18 | scotepi | so can debian if you install it minamily |
| 01:19.34 | Bushmills | some say that gentoo is nicer for developing, because you have all program headers around by default |
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| 01:19.46 | Pundir | gentoo...ouch |
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| 01:19.53 | Pundir | must be secure though |
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| 01:20.27 | Bushmills | others find that their system deteriorates over time and is sort of hard to get in proper shape again |
| 01:20.28 | scotepi | only thing thats is bugging me about debian now is that its running vary old php and mysql version |
| 01:20.39 | Kurin | debian's packages are always old as sin |
| 01:20.49 | Kurin | the current version of python is like 2.5 |
| 01:20.51 | Pundir | well how often do they update |
| 01:21.00 | Pundir | ubuntu is like 6 months |
| 01:21.18 | zinx | python2.7 - An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.7) |
| 01:21.21 | zinx | python3.2 - An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 3.2) |
| 01:21.21 | compmstr | You can always get the most recent source, and use checkinstall to make a package for it quickly |
| 01:21.28 | Kurin | zinx: are you on lenny? |
| 01:21.33 | zinx | i'm on sid |
| 01:21.52 | Kurin | you might as well be on freebsd then |
| 01:21.55 | zinx | stable does have old packages |
| 01:22.09 | zinx | unless it was just released (squeeze has not yet been, i think) |
| 01:22.10 | Pundir | I was always interested on freebsd |
| 01:22.19 | greenmantis | jhutchins_lt: you still there? |
| 01:22.20 | Pundir | but the support is rude |
| 01:22.29 | zinx | but, that's what Debian stable is :/ |
| 01:22.56 | Kurin | honestly the fbsd docs are way better than most linux docs |
| 01:23.10 | Kurin | when people have generic unix questions I usually point them at the handbook |
| 01:23.18 | Pundir | Kurin: it is a good is |
| 01:23.27 | Pundir | os |
| 01:23.43 | Pundir | or you can stick with PCBSD |
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| 01:23.58 | Pundir | it looked real nice |
| 01:24.21 | Pundir | I had it on a live cd and it looked like windows 7 or better |
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| 01:24.31 | Kurin | well you were probably looking at KDE but ok |
| 01:24.34 | scotepi | is there a offical debian tree for more uptodate packages or is dotdeb the better option? |
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| 01:24.52 | macrobat | stupid question: when i make an lvm physical volume, i have to do it on a partition that already has a filesystem on it, right? |
| 01:24.54 | bintut_ | waves |
| 01:25.22 | dvs | scotepi: backports |
| 01:25.24 | stew | scotepi: there are multiple, there is backports /msg dpkg bdo ; and volatile: /msg dpkg volatile |
| 01:25.38 | dvs | bdo? |
| 01:25.49 | stew | dvs: /msg dpkg bdo |
| 01:26.10 | goose | anyone know if it's possible to tell VLC to use user/pass auth via HTTP streaming? |
| 01:26.10 | dvs | oh, i get it now |
| 01:26.29 | bintut_ | i'm wondering if there is already a munin plugin for apache2.2 hits per second or minute |
| 01:26.47 | oOarthurOo | anyone use xchat gnome? I'm trying to figure out how to hide join/part messages, and configure username/password |
| 01:27.02 | goose | oOarthurOo: xchat > xchat-gnome (they're different) |
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| 01:27.24 | scotepi | looks like id be more interested in volatiale for a home/web dev server |
| 01:27.26 | bintut_ | any munin users here? |
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| 01:29.03 | peterrooney | scotepi: you'd be happier with one at home matching the production server |
| 01:29.28 | scotepi | my productions run 5.3.3 |
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| 01:31.59 | scotepi | nice of sshd, randomly restarted on me and finaly picked up its new port >< |
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| 01:35.10 | Bushmills | bintut_: apache_accesses |
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| 01:35.31 | Bushmills | scales display to acesses/second |
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| 01:37.37 | bintut_ | Bushmills: cool! i never thought that it was the one already because the values are low. |
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| 01:37.54 | wortega | I boys |
| 01:38.00 | Bushmills | http://scarydevilmonastery.net/munin-plugins/system/apache_accesses - could be part of plugin package coming with debian, but not sure. |
| 01:38.12 | wortega | Somebody can help with my debian linux |
| 01:38.23 | wortega | I have a trouble with proxy configuration |
| 01:38.33 | wortega | My aptitude dont update |
| 01:38.47 | bintut_ | Bushmills: i have it already. thanks. ;-) |
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| 01:39.04 | lkthomas | hey guys |
| 01:39.07 | lkthomas | out of topic question |
| 01:39.20 | wortega | Sorry |
| 01:39.20 | lkthomas | anyone know how to repair broken mysql slave ? |
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| 01:40.48 | Bushmills | bintut_: here are some more, including some which aren't in the debian pack: http://scarydevilmonastery.net/munin.cgi |
| 01:41.01 | scotepi | can anyone here help me set up dotdeb? |
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| 01:43.07 | bintut_ | Bushmills: thanks for the link. ;-) |
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| 01:52.42 | bintut | gtg now |
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| 01:57.45 | Pundir | ok guys I think this is where I need help |
| 01:57.58 | Pundir | Im at the partition disks part |
| 01:58.17 | Pundir | it shows windows fat32 has used up all the hd |
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| 01:58.31 | Pundir | can it be cut to make room for debian? |
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| 01:59.17 | scotepi | im guessing not from the debian boot cd, you can shrink it in windows (i think) or using something like gparted (takes hours and hours) |
| 02:00.58 | Pundir | oh man |
| 02:01.00 | scotepi | can i upgrade lenny to squeeze? |
| 02:01.17 | scotepi | or if I reinstall squeeze will it be able to be upgraded to release? |
| 02:01.20 | dvs | !lenny->squeeze |
| 02:02.13 | scotepi | so is that a no to the upgrade? |
| 02:02.25 | dvs | scotepi: you can |
| 02:02.37 | scotepi | any place to find instructions? |
| 02:03.06 | dvs | scotepi: you need to install the kernel from backports first |
| 02:03.13 | scotepi | i dobut its as easy as changing sources.list to squezze |
| 02:04.14 | scotepi | installing that now, i was disapointed in what backports had to offer |
| 02:04.20 | scotepi | and dotdeb isnt working |
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| 02:06.28 | Pundir | im on the graphical install debian part |
| 02:06.41 | Pundir | I cant specify and create partition from it? |
| 02:06.57 | Pundir | in ubuntu they had a slider thing where yiou specify just that |
| 02:07.05 | dvs | Pundir: you can but you can't resize exisiting ones |
| 02:07.30 | Pundir | dvs: can you "cut it" |
| 02:07.47 | dvs | Pundir: to me, "cut" means "resize" |
| 02:08.05 | Pundir | dvs: so you HAVE to erase everything |
| 02:08.20 | Pundir | if its using a windows partition on the full drive? |
| 02:08.29 | dvs | Pundir: or resize it from windows |
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| 02:09.17 | Pundir | dvs, does debian not have the partition slide adjuster? |
| 02:09.29 | dvs | no |
| 02:09.37 | Pundir | nuts |
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| 02:09.46 | dvs | not from the installer |
| 02:10.07 | Pundir | then from where? |
| 02:10.13 | Pundir | can a ubuntu live work? |
| 02:10.22 | Pundir | to create a partition |
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| 02:11.22 | dvs | If ubuntu has that tool on the live cd, sure |
| 02:12.10 | Pundir | its got gparted |
| 02:12.39 | Pundir | but whats the name of the debian prtition |
| 02:12.47 | Pundir | what should I create |
| 02:13.09 | Pundir | ex2 or something |
| 02:13.28 | dvs | Pundir: a linux partition (ext3) |
| 02:13.56 | Pundir | ok |
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| 02:14.22 | dvs | Pundir: or just leave it free |
| 02:14.37 | Pundir | ok |
| 02:14.47 | Pundir | i got to get into ubunu though |
| 02:15.08 | dvs | so kill the install |
| 02:15.29 | Pundir | ok its killed |
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| 02:16.46 | stew | debain *should* be able to resize a partition from the installer, there are parted udebs, but It might not be too straightforward |
| 02:16.49 | chilli0 | Hello, for some reason my start up script doesn't work. I have put it into /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon |
| 02:16.58 | chilli0 | And it doesn't start on startup.. |
| 02:17.02 | Pundir | stew ok |
| 02:17.11 | Pundir | stew Ill do it through ubuntu on gparted |
| 02:17.16 | Pundir | stew is that possible? |
| 02:17.31 | stew | probably. i've never tried ubuntu |
| 02:17.44 | Pundir | no?? |
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| 02:18.55 | stew | i don't think so? |
| 02:19.26 | dvs | stew: you dont remember using ubuntu? ;-) |
| 02:20.01 | dvs | must have been very trumatic! |
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| 02:21.02 | stew | i've tried livecds a couple of times to fix things, i'm not sure. i've certainly never been a "ubuntu user", but whatever |
| 02:22.41 | Pundir | is 10 gb ok for debian? |
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| 02:22.58 | dvs | 20gb is better |
| 02:23.46 | stew | Pundir: yes |
| 02:24.04 | dvs | with gnome? |
| 02:24.12 | Pundir | yes |
| 02:24.21 | chilli0 | And it doesn't start on startup.. |
| 02:24.23 | chilli0 | Hello, for some reason my start up script doesn't work. I have put it into /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon |
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| 02:25.13 | dvs | chilli0: man update-rc.d |
| 02:26.15 | mainer | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.28 | mainer | w/o quotes |
| 02:26.35 | stew | chilli0: are you not using the transmission-daemon package from debian? (which includes an init script) |
| 02:26.44 | chilli0 | stew, No. |
| 02:26.49 | stew | chilli0: why not? |
| 02:27.00 | chilli0 | Because that is transmission 1.33 |
| 02:27.06 | chilli0 | I need the newer version 2.2 |
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| 02:27.32 | indrora | chilli0: Good luck. |
| 02:27.40 | chilli0 | http://pastebin.com/RFQujeRL mainer |
| 02:27.41 | indrora | this is debian we are talking about. |
| 02:27.49 | chilli0 | indrora, Yes I know?? |
| 02:27.57 | himuraken | chilli0, will 2.02 suffice? |
| 02:28.29 | stew | chilli0: if you have an init script, that is better than rc.local, just use update-rc.d to say when it should be run |
| 02:28.34 | chilli0 | himuraken, Not sure. I'm fine with this version that I have now. |
| 02:29.14 | himuraken | chilli0, if it is a fine version but wont start, stew has the right advice. |
| 02:29.45 | Pundir | so debian will run ok on 10gb of space.. will there be any loss of speed or performance? |
| 02:29.50 | chilli0 | himuraken, It starts, just not on boot. |
| 02:29.53 | mainer | chilli0: stew's right but i meant edit(vi,vim,nano,whatever) and add a line to that file. it gets run at end of multiuser |
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| 02:30.23 | stew | (not neccessarily at the end of multiuser) |
| 02:30.29 | un214 | so I was out for 2 days because someone changed something so the old default of ,,, cannot be used for real name |
| 02:30.32 | mainer | but best to use update-rc.d |
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| 02:30.46 | un214 | took me awhile to figure out |
| 02:31.11 | chilli0 | -bash: update-rc.d: command not found ? |
| 02:31.21 | un214 | uhh it's either /usr/sbin or /sbin |
| 02:31.23 | stew | chilli0: you'd run it as root |
| 02:31.24 | un214 | not in your path by default |
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| 02:31.41 | mainer | correct |
| 02:32.06 | shupac | hi all |
| 02:32.51 | chilli0 | http://pastebin.com/FMDjtRxp |
| 02:34.29 | chilli0 | Says it's already in there? |
| 02:34.44 | shupac | silly question, i'm building apache from source, where can I find the flags I need so that when I configure/make/install apache will "behave" as if it where installed from the one of the repos |
| 02:34.52 | Pundir | what ever happened to linspire |
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| 02:37.46 | mainer | chilli0: you probly didn't apt-get remove --purge the old version. |
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| 02:38.11 | chilli0 | mainer, Nah, I did try to get this working a while back. And I ran that same command. |
| 02:38.29 | mainer | oh |
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| 02:40.09 | megana | help me #debian! I upgraded to squeeze and now the KVM thing is messing with me |
| 02:40.18 | megana | KVM? KMS? |
| 02:41.27 | simonrvn | 2 different things |
| 02:41.32 | megana | the intel driver |
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| 02:42.30 | Pundir | stew: I set 10 gb to unallocated |
| 02:42.32 | Pundir | is that ok>? |
| 02:43.05 | Pundir | will debian install on this? |
| 02:43.06 | megana | hey stew, I think we talked about my problem before. Except last time I was using a video card that didn't support the resolution I wanted |
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| 02:43.25 | wardog | I have problems to install debian through windows 7. any tips? The windows installer does not work, goodbye. |
| 02:43.35 | megana | goodbye? |
| 02:43.44 | wardog | goodbye-windows |
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| 02:44.09 | wardog | http://www.goodbye-windows.com/ |
| 02:44.12 | megana | how do you install debian through windows 7? o_O |
| 02:44.33 | wardog | Sorry for my english, I'm still learning |
| 02:44.47 | wardog | brazilian soldier |
| 02:44.47 | simonrvn | it boots to d-i |
| 02:44.48 | megana | meh, I don't know. Why not just install it from scratch? |
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| 02:45.43 | wardog | I'm using windows 7. I want to install debian from windows 7. |
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| 02:46.44 | megana | so boot from the netinst CD |
| 02:47.00 | megana | why would you want to make a simple thing complicated by involving windows? |
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| 02:47.48 | nevyn | because complicated software has more features? |
| 02:48.14 | nevyn | point at emacs. |
| 02:48.17 | dvs | !rube goldberg install |
| 02:48.17 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke." |
| 02:48.42 | mainer | lmao |
| 02:48.47 | nevyn | oh that's gold |
| 02:49.01 | mainer | indeed |
| 02:49.43 | catsup | LOL |
| 02:49.48 | catsup | literally LOL |
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| 02:50.51 | megana | that's not true, complicated software is just⦠complicated. You can have a simple thing that is powerful |
| 02:51.19 | catsup | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg |
| 02:51.44 | catsup | installing bootloaders is often a domain for creative problem solving |
| 02:52.00 | neoice | solution: remove disk, run install on another machine |
| 02:52.10 | catsup | pft |
| 02:52.17 | catsup | hardware solutions don't count |
| 02:52.33 | catsup | i want a solution that doesn't require getting off the couch |
| 02:52.35 | catsup | always |
| 02:52.55 | megana | a final solution? |
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| 02:53.19 | catsup | if that's what it takes to avoid exercise, so be it |
| 02:53.27 | megana | o_O |
| 02:53.48 | megana | I must save you from living an empty life of hamburgars! |
| 02:54.00 | andares | does anyone know if the cgroups patch has been merged into debian's kernel yet? |
| 02:54.15 | catsup | andares: #debian-kernel would be the place to ask |
| 02:54.32 | andares | but there are only three people in that channel. |
| 02:54.37 | catsup | wrong network |
| 02:55.00 | catsup | i count 72 |
| 02:55.15 | andares | oh. |
| 02:55.16 | andares | whooopse |
| 02:55.38 | catsup | oftc |
| 02:55.46 | andares | oh, you should have said. >:( |
| 02:55.48 | andares | thanks though. |
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| 02:55.54 | catsup | lol, i just looked it up |
| 02:56.01 | catsup | it takes a while to find in irssi |
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| 02:58.51 | lkthomas | does anyone running mysql master-slave setup now ? |
| 03:01.27 | megana | ugh, X won't do the video mode that it used to default to on lenny :( (I have an intel chip) |
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| 03:04.31 | cirwin | If i hold down left shift, hold down E, press down right shift; why does it type EC ? |
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| 03:08.27 | Pandir | fedora is not debian based..right6? |
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| 03:08.55 | nevyn | Pandir: correct |
| 03:09.06 | nevyn | fedora is the basis for RHEL. |
| 03:09.15 | Pandir | ok |
| 03:09.22 | hardcode | you all have bad flavor |
| 03:09.28 | Pandir | is it more secure than ubuntu |
| 03:09.43 | Pandir | or debian |
| 03:09.49 | nevyn | has flava. |
| 03:09.57 | hardcode | security is a lie that the airport tells consumers so they pay for plane tickets |
| 03:10.17 | nevyn | ok that's pretty good... I like it. |
| 03:10.45 | Pandir | is fedora more secure |
| 03:10.51 | Pandir | not airport |
| 03:11.20 | cirwin | Pandir: meaningless question â you can configure either to be as secure or not as you want |
| 03:11.30 | cantido | Pandir: which of the thousands of pieces of software are you worried about? |
| 03:11.59 | Pandir | carwin by default |
| 03:12.06 | cantido | If what you really mean is "I need someone to blame if/when it goes wrong" get a RHEL contract and be done with it |
| 03:12.09 | Pandir | are they about the same in security? |
| 03:12.25 | cantido | Pandir: they both have thousands of packages.. |
| 03:12.37 | cirwin | Pandir: they are both "good enough" by default, or no-one would use them.. |
| 03:12.46 | hardcode | if you are a monkey with a tin hat pressing enter to install them.. go with whatever the dice tell you.. thats your best chance at survival.... |
| 03:12.55 | cirwin | but if you care about security, good enough probably isn't |
| 03:13.19 | cirwin | so you'll have to manually configure it â at which point it's your knowledge, not the distro, that makes the difference |
| 03:13.22 | Pandir | carwin, but can they become better than "good enough" |
| 03:13.23 | cantido | if you worry about security you get on the security list and keep your system updated |
| 03:13.44 | cantido | and dont break the default configurations which are usally secure |
| 03:14.03 | Pandir | ok |
| 03:14.10 | hardcode | if you look at the stats.. 70% of the boxes on the internet are insecure? do you really think your linux box is one of them? |
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| 03:14.48 | cantido | hardcode: there are plently of hacked linux boxes out there |
| 03:14.49 | cirwin | hardcode: heh, how did they jutsify 70%? |
| 03:14.54 | hardcode | (assuming im talking to someone that is using windows behind "a corporate firewall" somewhere lol.. anyways im to drunk.. i hope i didn get my self kicked |
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| 03:15.00 | Pandir | well 70% are windows boxes |
| 03:15.03 | cantido | sending spam, hosting drop sites.. |
| 03:15.10 | Pandir | maybe a lil less |
| 03:15.13 | Pandir | some are mac also |
| 03:15.22 | Kev1 | hi, i need help with mounting partitions |
| 03:15.25 | Dewi | cirwin: that's a ridiculous stat |
| 03:15.27 | hardcode | yeah.. but if your a noob and install linux for the first time i am assuming you have a 2.6 kernel |
| 03:15.34 | Dewi | er, hardcode |
| 03:15.49 | cantido | Kev1: whats your problem? |
| 03:15.54 | hardcode | really you can good linux and get a distro from the late 90s? |
| 03:16.02 | hardcode | google* |
| 03:16.44 | cantido | hardcode: new exploits are found in linux + all the packages that make up a standard distro on a weekly basis |
| 03:16.54 | Kev1 | well, when i mount a fat part, it mounts rw for owner and group as in fstab, but it changes to group access as read only |
| 03:17.01 | cantido | hardcode: you dont install "security" and that it |
| 03:17.01 | hardcode | i was looking at how many ppl were running windows off http requests.. there is no way to estimate .. internet usage. . most ppl cloak anything they are aware of |
| 03:17.14 | hardcode | cantido: i agree |
| 03:17.32 | hardcode | but i couldnt make winxp secure so i am fighting for a flavor i can tolerate |
| 03:17.46 | hardcode | .. i just learned in linux sh links to bash =( |
| 03:17.48 | cantido | home user windows boxes arent worth as much as a server inside a banks infrastructure |
| 03:18.02 | hardcode | i love bash.. but i didnt think it was my only shell |
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| 03:19.27 | Bushmills | can also be dash |
| 03:19.27 | hardcode | you but you can uninstall bad software.. im getting into the embedded scene hopefully so... are there any decent cli's for touchscreen? |
| 03:19.32 | cantido | "in linux" ? |
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| 03:19.54 | hardcode | yeah... *nix is a different ballgame then linux |
| 03:20.08 | cantido | sh can be what ever your "vendor" chooses |
| 03:20.24 | hardcode | what is it in debian-current? |
| 03:20.30 | cantido | and in debian changing your shell is easy |
| 03:20.39 | un214 | chsh right? |
| 03:20.43 | cantido | the current default for everything but users is bash isnt it? |
| 03:20.49 | un214 | or sudo vipw |
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| 03:21.08 | cantido | s/bash/dash/ |
| 03:21.18 | hardcode | i still havent figured out vigr and vipw |
| 03:21.37 | hardcode | i mean.. i use to do all of my adduser with them.. and the new distros are so fancy |
| 03:21.44 | hardcode | (im not talking about debian) |
| 03:22.01 | hardcode | ive been in search of a linux i like for a long time |
| 03:22.26 | karlpinc | un214: usermod |
| 03:22.34 | hardcode | even xfce .. seems to do capital insensitive.. so i end up using 8 fb gettys |
| 03:22.59 | cantido | o_0 |
| 03:23.39 | karlpinc | un214: Or chsh even better. |
| 03:23.46 | megana | help with intel kms :( |
| 03:23.49 | hardcode | my experience.. for user application was asimple as trying to get info pages for usb.. and how it works cuz i last used linux in the days.. you had to configue irqs by conf |
| 03:23.52 | cirwin | all I want is a terminal emulator that I can click on a file name to have it open in vim, then I will be happy |
| 03:23.59 | cirwin | (well, that and graphics drivers that work :p) |
| 03:24.06 | hardcode | and i broked a couple kernels with apt-get and gave up |
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| 03:24.35 | hardcode | server management.. i still use it |
| 03:25.24 | cantido | cirwin: konsole does that I think.. it highlights urls etc at least |
| 03:26.03 | hardcode | what is best practice for video drivers? |
| 03:26.11 | cantido | hardcode: that isnt a linux feature.. thats a feature of better hardware |
| 03:26.36 | cirwin | cantido: interesting... I'm sure I used konsole once upon a time |
| 03:27.11 | hardcode | yeah.. well it was nvidia that 'tainted' my kernel.. i was loving compize till i re/uninstalled a few low end apt-get packages that told me it was going to delete my kernel and i was like no and it destroyed it non the less |
| 03:27.22 | cantido | hardcode: most video drivers are part of Xorg.. there are some external drivers like the official nvidia and ati ones |
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| 03:27.50 | cantido | hardcode: eh? |
| 03:27.57 | hardcode | yeah... i cant tell where opensource.. nv is |
| 03:28.13 | cantido | All the taited warning means is that non-GPL code was loaded in |
| 03:28.17 | hardcode | cuz nv.. is not the one its using.. i would love to learn and start dev ogl/d3d for gpl |
| 03:28.18 | karlpinc | cirwin: Probably gpm + shell + EDITOR=vim mc |
| 03:28.29 | cantido | and nv doesnt work with a lot of cards.. doesnt support all the features |
| 03:28.30 | hardcode | ive been coding hacks for fps games for yeas |
| 03:28.32 | hardcode | years* |
| 03:28.40 | karlpinc | !tell hardcode about binary-only drivers |
| 03:28.44 | hardcode | not that it matters but.. i would rather go back to hardware coding |
| 03:29.11 | hardcode | i agree |
| 03:29.14 | cantido | I dont like closed drivers.. but I'd rather have video acceleration than not.. my machine isnt all that fast to start with |
| 03:29.25 | hardcode | most hardware has been closed source for years |
| 03:29.36 | hardcode | why does closed source drivers bother you |
| 03:29.53 | hardcode | expecially if they are actively developed and work |
| 03:30.13 | hardcode | and you have openhardware and decent os between you and the mothership |
| 03:30.39 | cantido | the problem with the closed drivers is when nvidia decided "we dont want to support this card any more" |
| 03:30.46 | cirwin | thanks karlpinc |
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| 03:31.04 | cantido | which they are within their rights to do.. but theres no source so no one else can pick it up |
| 03:31.15 | hardcode | i really with manufacturers would manufacture and not support |
| 03:31.27 | hardcode | its our ligatious society fucking that up |
| 03:31.50 | cantido | well, nvidia dont want to share any details that might expose their "IP" |
| 03:32.23 | hardcode | well ati will just take it like any cutthroat business but we are the idiots that think communism that is something only the goverment can be |
| 03:33.01 | cantido | there is a open graphics card project if your interested.. but guess what.. the FPGA is uses is all closed IP too |
| 03:33.03 | hardcode | im really drunk the view expressed by me are alcohol driver and possible incorrect.. pls contact your own support team for more information lol |
| 03:33.04 | cantido | irony |
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| 03:33.58 | Kev1 | cantido did you understand my problem? |
| 03:34.01 | Bushmills | good moment to repartition the hard drive |
| 03:34.11 | karlpinc | cirwin: (I've never actually tried it, but that seems the route to take.) |
| 03:34.14 | cantido | Kev1: with mouting? |
| 03:34.21 | Kev1 | yes |
| 03:34.31 | Kev1 | when i mount a fat part, it mounts rw for owner and group as in fstab, but it changes to group access as read only |
| 03:34.51 | hardcode | is there a way to make kde secure? |
| 03:35.11 | hardcode | can iptables stop anything bad from an exploit that is kde specific |
| 03:35.11 | cantido | Kev1: I havent worked with fat for ages.. dont you give it a group mask or something? |
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| 03:35.31 | cantido | hardcode: your question makes no sense |
| 03:35.39 | Kev1 | no, i don't know how to use unmask |
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| 03:35.47 | hardcode | fair enough |
| 03:35.57 | hardcode | konsole need kdelibs |
| 03:36.00 | hardcode | i thought* |
| 03:36.10 | cantido | Kev1: just a sec, I'm trying to google up what I think it is |
| 03:36.14 | hardcode | i cant even install gnome due to resource managment |
| 03:36.21 | Kev1 | thank you |
| 03:36.52 | hardcode | thanks all for not banning me.. gonna disappear now |
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| 03:37.26 | dvs | ban him! ;-) |
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| 03:38.20 | Cullz | hi |
| 03:38.37 | Cullz | is anybody here familiar with using apt-zip? |
| 03:38.41 | cantido | Kev1: ok, so you have a uid= , gid= and then theres is a dmask= .. setting dmask should sort it |
| 03:38.49 | stew | Kev1: umask is the number that gets substracted from 777 to give you the permissions. so if you want the permissions to be 775, set the umask to 002 |
| 03:39.33 | Kev1 | thank you |
| 03:39.44 | stew | dmask and fmask can be used instead of umask if you want a different umask for Directories and Files |
| 03:39.45 | cantido | umask is probably the better option |
| 03:39.57 | dvs | or rw |
| 03:40.05 | cantido | or if you have a desktop use its media mounter.. ;) |
| 03:40.25 | Kev1 | can i set unmask=002 in my fstab? |
| 03:40.44 | stew | Kev1: yes, but its umask not unmask |
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| 03:42.45 | Kev1 | now it changes to root:root |
| 03:43.05 | dazoe | I hate debian's mirrors... I just did an OS reload on my VPS and it's looking for etch mirrors... which don't exist anymore... |
| 03:43.20 | Bushmills | !etch |
| 03:43.21 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 03:43.34 | Cullz | !apt-zip |
| 03:43.34 | dpkg | Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout>. http://wiki.debian.org/AptZip |
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| 03:44.10 | stew | Kev1: you need uid/gid as well |
| 03:44.28 | dazoe | Bushmills: UGH |
| 03:44.34 | cantido | dazoe: you shouldnt be running etch basically |
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| 03:44.41 | Kev1 | yes stew |
| 03:44.49 | Cullz | I have some questions about how to use repositories on an offline laptop |
| 03:45.02 | stew | dazoe: it exists, but it is no longer supported and was moved to archive.debian.org. if you are setting up a new install it should be on lenny, the current stable, not etch |
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| 03:45.21 | dazoe | cantido: yeah got that... so basicaly my VPS provider should have ?sid? images instead. |
| 03:45.24 | Kev1 | i set umask=0002 and it works now, thank you so much |
| 03:45.31 | cantido | dazoe: they should have lenny |
| 03:45.36 | catsup | not sid |
| 03:45.39 | dazoe | !lenny |
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| 03:45.39 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for the current stable release, Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on 2009-02-14: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 . Ask me about <release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.7>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
| 03:45.40 | Kev1 | but I'd like you tell me how do i obtain umask codes |
| 03:45.42 | cantido | if they have sid images they should be slapped |
| 03:45.44 | catsup | sid = unstable |
| 03:45.47 | catsup | !sid |
| 03:45.47 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
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| 03:46.26 | stew | Kev1: subtract from 777 the permissions you want to end up with |
| 03:46.27 | rinku_kokiri | i want to install a debian based system on my palm pixi (armv3) |
| 03:46.43 | rinku_kokiri | s/v3/v6/ |
| 03:46.47 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: is that an ARM7 or an ARM9..> |
| 03:46.49 | dazoe | i wasn't sure what the current codename was... is sid always unstable? |
| 03:46.56 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: i.e. does it have an MMU? |
| 03:47.00 | catsup | dazoe: yes |
| 03:47.03 | Kev1 | thanks stew |
| 03:47.06 | catsup | dazoe: sid is always the code for unstable |
| 03:47.09 | Kev1 | and thanks cantido :) |
| 03:47.15 | rinku_kokiri | mmu? |
| 03:47.48 | catsup | mmu = memory management unit, i.e. paging, which is necessary to run the ordinary linux kernel |
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| 03:47.56 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: I'm not sure if it's 100% the case any more.. but Linux standard doesnt run on machines without MMU's.. i.e. ARM7TDMI vs ARM9 |
| 03:47.59 | rinku_kokiri | it runs on linux |
| 03:48.02 | catsup | what distinguishes 286 from 386 |
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| 03:48.10 | rinku_kokiri | proprietary version with webos built on too |
| 03:48.13 | rinku_kokiri | *top |
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| 03:48.20 | rinku_kokiri | it has 256 mb ram, and swp |
| 03:48.30 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: ok,.. has anyone tried it before? |
| 03:48.31 | rinku_kokiri | 8 g media to play with |
| 03:48.43 | rinku_kokiri | apparently |
| 03:48.45 | cantido | can never remember all the ARM version numbers |
| 03:48.47 | Cullz | what is the size of the repositories? |
| 03:49.13 | stew | Cullz: about 450 gigabytes |
| 03:49.22 | Cullz | :-o |
| 03:49.26 | cantido | Lenny alone is 3 or 4 DVDs isnt it? |
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| 03:49.33 | cantido | for one arch |
| 03:49.41 | rinku_kokiri | ubuntu 9.x supports armv6 |
| 03:49.49 | Cullz | I want to put some basic applications onto a debian laptop with lxde |
| 03:49.54 | stew | Cullz: http://www.debian.org/mirror/size |
| 03:49.55 | dvs | cantido: 7 i think |
| 03:49.59 | Cullz | thanks |
| 03:50.16 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: I think.. debian packages are built for ARMv5 and above |
| 03:50.29 | cantido | I can never remember what numbers relate to actual products though |
| 03:50.46 | rinku_kokiri | i got as far as chrooting into a debootstrapped kernel, but was pretty useless |
| 03:51.10 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: you mean chrooting into a debian userland? |
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| 03:51.17 | rinku_kokiri | sure |
| 03:51.30 | rinku_kokiri | that's where i ran --second-stage |
| 03:51.34 | rinku_kokiri | or something like that |
| 03:51.39 | Cullz | is there a way to download an application plus all its dependency packages to a directory? |
| 03:51.40 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: if you can do that you should be able to pivot root and restart everything from inside the chroot.. i.e. start debians init |
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| 03:51.50 | rinku_kokiri | i was over ssh |
| 03:52.01 | rinku_kokiri | not sure if it'll like the keyboard. |
| 03:52.18 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: unless someone has done it before and written a framebuffer etc you wont be able to do much |
| 03:52.42 | rinku_kokiri | well.. the webos doctor has something called a metadoctor? |
| 03:52.48 | rinku_kokiri | you can feed it a custom kernel... |
| 03:53.04 | cantido | yes, but you would still need hardware drivers.. |
| 03:53.05 | rinku_kokiri | and a custom gui (<<i'm interested in gnome) |
| 03:53.18 | cantido | if its already running linux though hopefully those drivers are available |
| 03:53.35 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: so you need an X server.. |
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| 03:54.04 | rinku_kokiri | wifi drivers |
| 03:54.10 | rinku_kokiri | or novacom setup |
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| 03:54.26 | rinku_kokiri | novacom gives me root over usb |
| 03:54.42 | rinku_kokiri | hrm |
| 03:54.52 | joeyjones | how can i check the kernel timer frequency in debian? |
| 03:55.34 | cantido | rinku_kokiri: it does look like someone has attempted to run their own distro on it |
| 03:56.21 | rinku_kokiri | are you talking about that gentoo build? |
| 03:56.35 | cantido | yeah |
| 03:56.58 | rinku_kokiri | thats actually for the pandora gaming/portable pda |
| 03:57.40 | cantido | Its apparently the same core though.. maybe its a SoC with LCD driver etc built in.. in which case their drivers would work |
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| 04:02.45 | stew | Cullz: "aptitude -d install packagename" will download them to /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 04:03.04 | stew | joeyjones: grep CONFIG_HZ /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 04:04.00 | joeyjones | stew: /boot/config doesn't exist |
| 04:04.12 | stew | joeyjones: does /boot/config-$(uname -r) exist? |
| 04:04.40 | joeyjones | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.41 | Cullz | thanks |
| 04:05.05 | stew | joeyjones: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 04:05.19 | stew | joeyjones: is there a /boot partition that isn't mounted? |
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| 04:05.27 | joeyjones | ip-10-195-99-83:/boot# uname -r |
| 04:05.27 | joeyjones | 2.6.21.7-2.fc8xen |
| 04:05.43 | stew | joeyjones: that's a fedora kernel? |
| 04:05.48 | rinku_kokiri | u think this would work http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/arm/apas02.html.en cantido |
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| 04:05.51 | Sic[NOH8] | can niggers use debian |
| 04:05.52 | joeyjones | this is debian... |
| 04:05.53 | Sic[NOH8] | serious question |
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| 04:07.03 | stew | joeyjones: i don't know how you check the timer frequency of that fedora kernel, you could see of /proc/config.gz exists |
| 04:07.17 | joeyjones | stew: basically, i'm looking to run asterisk on debian and am trying to see if the timer is good enough |
| 04:07.43 | stew | joeyjones: a debian kernel would be set at 250 unless you recompiled it. i don't konw what settings fedora uses though |
| 04:07.56 | joeyjones | yeah, i ned 1000 |
| 04:08.44 | Cullz | stew: is it safe to clear the archives? |
| 04:09.15 | stew | Cullz: yes, "aptitude clean" will erase all of /var/cache/apt/archives, if that is what you mean |
| 04:09.29 | stew | Cullz: you can always safely remove any file in /var/cache, but not necessarily any directory |
| 04:09.37 | Cullz | stew: yes. thanks |
| 04:10.00 | Cullz | stew: if I do this on ubuntu machine to get install stuff for debian machine will it break it? |
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| 04:10.24 | cantido | Cullz: yes |
| 04:10.46 | cantido | Cullz: use a debian chroot on the ubuntu machine to fetch the stuff |
| 04:11.20 | joeyjones | stew: is it safe to compile the most recent debian kernel and use that instead? |
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| 04:11.48 | Cullz | cantido: is this just a command or something to install? |
| 04:12.37 | cantido | Cullz: use debootstrap to build a debian chroot and chroot into it.. you will be using "debian" then and the packages you fetch will be correct |
| 04:12.54 | stew | joeyjones: i don't know. what version of debian are you running now? do you need xen support? |
| 04:13.18 | stew | Cullz: or use "apt-get install --print-uris packagename" from debian to get a list of urls to fetch from another system |
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| 04:13.32 | tosensen | hi |
| 04:13.38 | stew | Cullz: or use the apt-zip package which generates a script to run on another machine |
| 04:14.07 | Cullz | ii'm trying apt-zip. i'm not very competent with it so far |
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| 04:15.33 | joeyjones | stew: it's running on amazon EC2 and it's lenny |
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| 04:18.31 | cantido | joeyjones: will your phone calls like having their "machine" getting switched out all the time? |
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| 04:33.09 | joeyjones | cantido: it shouldn't be an issue, but it's just for test/play right no |
| 04:33.10 | joeyjones | w |
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| 04:38.11 | Cullz | so far apt-zip is not downloading anything |
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| 04:38.34 | Cullz | Download will be of size: in 18 files |
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| 04:47.57 | cesurasean | For some reason my ssh connection to my lenny box broke, and now it's refusing connections?? |
| 04:48.04 | cesurasean | How do I diagnose this issue? |
| 04:48.27 | yoshio | ssh -vv user@host |
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| 04:49.14 | cesurasean | yoshio, was that comment for me? |
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| 04:49.30 | yoshio | cesurasean, yes |
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| 04:50.44 | yoshio | cesurasean, can you login to your lenny box via the console to look at the logs? |
| 04:50.59 | cesurasean | yoshio, says connection refused |
| 04:51.13 | cesurasean | yes, but the terminal is a pain in the ass |
| 04:51.31 | cesurasean | why would it just stop working? |
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| 04:53.17 | cesurasean | yoshio, what should i do? |
| 04:54.41 | eikenberry | cesurasean. Connection refused means your connection isn't making it to the ssh server daemon. Any firewall changes or such? |
| 04:55.06 | cesurasean | no |
| 04:55.14 | cesurasean | i didn't reboot the machine, or anything. |
| 04:55.29 | cesurasean | it just disconnected me, and now won't login. ive also rebooted it to see if it would work. no luck. |
| 04:56.15 | cesurasean | ok |
| 04:56.25 | cesurasean | now it seems i can connect from other hosts, just not my windows box |
| 04:56.29 | cesurasean | lol |
| 04:57.01 | stew | !connection refused |
| 04:57.02 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running on the specified IP address at all (e.g. apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 04:57.29 | cesurasean | how do i know which firewall is running on the host? |
| 04:57.46 | eikenberry | Could be the windows firewall. |
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| 04:58.01 | eikenberry | It can block outgoing connections I believe. |
| 04:58.31 | eikenberry | On the server... do you have fail2ban or anything similar? |
| 04:58.38 | cesurasean | ok |
| 04:58.50 | cesurasean | so why would a firewall break a good connection, and then ban me? |
| 04:58.52 | cesurasean | makes no sense |
| 04:59.00 | mainer | bsod? |
| 04:59.00 | eikenberry | fail2ban would if it was triggered. |
| 04:59.04 | cesurasean | i HAD a good working connection overnight |
| 04:59.32 | eikenberry | fail2ban creates a firewall rule when triggered. that could sever an existing connection. |
| 04:59.53 | cesurasean | how do i remove my firewall, or firewall rule? |
| 05:00.12 | cesurasean | i already removed iptables, no luck after that |
| 05:00.35 | stew | cesurasean: can you put the output of "iptables-save" into a pastebin? |
| 05:00.58 | cesurasean | ill try |
| 05:01.00 | stew | cesurasean: removing iptables doesn't affect your firewall. iptables is just the userland tool for manipulating the kernel's rules |
| 05:01.22 | yoshio | cesurasean, "iptables -L" will list all your current rules |
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| 05:01.43 | cesurasean | iptables command not found |
| 05:01.44 | tharkun | cesurasean: you first need to put your policies to Accept then use iptables -F |
| 05:01.58 | eikenberry | cesurasean. You removed it. You'll need to re-install it. |
| 05:02.12 | cesurasean | ok |
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| 05:02.14 | cesurasean | what now? |
| 05:02.21 | cesurasean | i did -L and it doesnt have much in it |
| 05:02.26 | stew | cesurasean: show us the output of iptables-save |
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| 05:02.37 | yoshio | iptables-save is a neat command, didn't know about it |
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| 05:02.58 | tharkun | iptables -L -n -v is also nice |
| 05:03.00 | stew | yoshio: (its output can be fed back into iptables-restore, which is handy) |
| 05:03.03 | cesurasean | http://pastebin.com/eNBZJspt |
| 05:03.21 | stew | but its also nice that it dumps every table, unlike iptables -L which only dumps the filter table |
| 05:03.40 | stew | cesurasean: so its not the firewall on that machine, this is wide open |
| 05:03.51 | tharkun | cesurasean: your firewall is as clear as water |
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| 05:05.19 | eikenberry | If you can get to it from other mathines but not that one then I'd then start looking at that windows machine. |
| 05:05.41 | cesurasean | why would the windows machine be blocking it? |
| 05:05.51 | cesurasean | I know it's not putty, because cygwin is not connecting either! |
| 05:06.36 | cesurasean | i turned off windows firewall. still same problem! |
| 05:06.50 | eikenberry | Don't know. Not my area. Just that nothing changed on the server, it isn't the firewall and other mathines can connect to it. IMO that leaves the client machine (the windows machine) as the most likely suspect. |
| 05:06.52 | tharkun | cesurasean: what ip is your windows machine on and also what ip is your linux box on? |
| 05:07.09 | cesurasean | 192.168.1.60, and linux is on 192.168.1.99 |
| 05:07.34 | tharkun | did you get those by DHCP? |
| 05:07.43 | cesurasean | i don't get why it worked last night, and now it's rejecting my connection |
| 05:07.44 | cesurasean | no |
| 05:07.47 | cesurasean | they are static |
| 05:08.00 | tharkun | cesurasean: route -n on the linux box? |
| 05:08.22 | cesurasean | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 05:08.22 | cesurasean | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth3 |
| 05:08.22 | cesurasean | 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth3 |
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| 05:09.09 | eikenberry | Stupid question but is networking in general working on the windows box. |
| 05:09.20 | cesurasean | yes, ofcourse |
| 05:09.21 | eikenberry | Can you ssh to any other machines from it? |
| 05:09.28 | cesurasean | i can connect to my other servers just fine |
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| 05:09.31 | cesurasean | just not this one |
| 05:10.03 | tharkun | Is the cable connected on all machines? |
| 05:10.34 | cesurasean | yes |
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| 05:10.47 | eikenberry | Even if it is you might want to try checking or changing the cables. Bad ethernet cables can cause weird problems. |
| 05:10.48 | cesurasean | as i said, i can connect to it from the other machines |
| 05:11.03 | eikenberry | Maybe try changing switch ports? |
| 05:11.05 | cesurasean | i dont think its the cable |
| 05:11.14 | Rusty1 | can you ping it from the linux box? |
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| 05:11.25 | cesurasean | Rusty1, ping what? |
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| 05:11.41 | eikenberry | The windows box I believe is what he meant. |
| 05:11.50 | Rusty1 | aye |
| 05:12.00 | cesurasean | ok |
| 05:12.14 | cesurasean | i just ran 'dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server', and that fixed it |
| 05:12.17 | tharkun | for the sake of clarity. Machine A (windows box) can connect to Machine B (linux server) but can't connect to Machine C (linux server) but machine B can connect to machine C ? |
| 05:12.18 | WormFood | what is the name of the package that automounts filesystems in /media/? |
| 05:12.21 | cesurasean | but, i already that once yesterday |
| 05:12.26 | cesurasean | why would that fix it today? |
| 05:12.49 | Cullz | can not seem to get apt-zip working |
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| 05:14.50 | cesurasean | why would i have to reconfigure for ssh to work? |
| 05:14.53 | cesurasean | makes no sense! |
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| 05:16.03 | eikenberry | what does that run... the preinst and postinst scripts? |
| 05:16.47 | peterrooney | cesurasean: hrm, been thinking about this a bit - do you have denyhosts installed? fail2ban? check for existance (and contents) of /etc/hosts.deny |
| 05:16.57 | yoshio | cesurasean, did you mess with ssh directory permissions? |
| 05:17.06 | yoshio | !tell cesurasean about ssh permissions |
| 05:17.10 | cesurasean | no |
| 05:17.13 | cesurasean | i didnt touch anything! |
| 05:17.17 | cesurasean | it just banned my host |
| 05:17.24 | cesurasean | /etc/hosts.deny MIGHT exist. let me check |
| 05:18.05 | cesurasean | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.05 | cesurasean | well its working now |
| 05:20.09 | cesurasean | i shall beb ack if it breaks again |
| 05:20.10 | cesurasean | lol |
| 05:20.12 | cesurasean | thanks guys |
| 05:20.26 | cesurasean | rmemeber next time to run that dpkg reconfigure and that fixes it ;) |
| 05:20.33 | cesurasean | peace |
| 05:20.37 | eikenberry | run it twice you mean |
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| 05:23.40 | peterrooney | cesurasean sure has come a long way |
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| 05:27.22 | tekzilla | is the nfs-kernel-server in unstable defaulting to nfs4 and does that require a new config ? can i explicitly make nfs3 exports ? updates seem to have broken my config.. |
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| 05:43.45 | yoshio | tekzilla, did you follow /usr/share/doc/nfs-common/README.Debian.nfsv4 ? |
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| 05:48.31 | tekzilla | yoshio: no i didnt, looks very interesting, thanks! |
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| 05:56.06 | cesurasean1 | I got kicked out again |
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| 05:56.37 | cesurasean1 | and the dpkg reconfigure isn't working either |
| 05:56.56 | cesurasean1 | and im still able to connect from other linux hosts |
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| 06:00.51 | yoshio | cesurasean1, If I'm idle in a ssh connection for a long time, the remote system kicks me off (but my local client looks like it's hung), I have to restart my ssh client - is that what is happening to you? |
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| 06:03.27 | cesurasean1 | no |
| 06:03.32 | cesurasean1 | restarting does not work |
| 06:05.29 | cesurasean1 | is there a list of ip's that could be blocked? |
| 06:05.35 | cesurasean1 | why is this happening to me??? |
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| 06:11.45 | peterrooney | cesurasean1: only reason I can think of is that your sacrifices to Murphy have been spurned. You did remember that the goat has to be -without- blemish, right? |
| 06:12.18 | cesurasean1 | huh? |
| 06:12.59 | peterrooney | cesurasean1: i'm curious why this is happening too |
| 06:13.22 | peterrooney | cesurasean1: I can't recall your windows ssh client |
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| 06:14.07 | cesurasean1 | putty |
| 06:14.11 | yoshio | cesurasean1, on your windows machine, type "ipconfig /all" - do you see lots of TX (transmit) or RX (receive) errors on your ethrenet interface? |
| 06:14.11 | cesurasean1 | it's not a putty problem |
| 06:14.17 | cesurasean1 | ive tried both putty, and cygwin |
| 06:14.27 | cesurasean1 | for some reason the server is blocking connections from my ip |
| 06:14.29 | atula | how do I remove a GPT partition? I'm getting the Warning: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sde'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. |
| 06:14.34 | atula | thank you for the help |
| 06:15.55 | cesurasean1 | ipconfig /all does not show anything interesting |
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| 06:18.25 | cesurasean1 | can someone please help me get my SSH restored back to normal! this sucks. |
| 06:18.34 | cesurasean1 | i even updated the machine, and no luck. |
| 06:18.39 | cesurasean1 | what is blocking my connection?? |
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| 06:19.15 | cesurasean1 | ok |
| 06:19.18 | cesurasean1 | and now its working again |
| 06:19.26 | cesurasean1 | lol |
| 06:19.33 | cesurasean1 | weird |
| 06:19.43 | peterrooney | cesurasean1: I'd be looking for an intermittent hardware problem. |
| 06:20.02 | yoshio | cesurasean1, in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file, do you have the following options set? ClientAliveCountMax ClientAliveInterval TCPKeepAlive -- type "man sshd_config" to find out about these |
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| 06:20.38 | Dewi | atula: parted |
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| 06:21.06 | yoshio | cesurasean1: I'd also change your ethernet cable from the windows machine |
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| 06:21.17 | Dewi | atula: so you need the package "parted" |
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| 06:27.49 | atula | Dewi: I ended up cleaning it with windows diskpart :) thank you though |
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| 06:28.01 | atula | looks good now |
| 06:28.03 | cesurasean1 | I switched the ethernet cables, and im still having issues. also changed switches... |
| 06:28.09 | cesurasean1 | it seems to be software related |
| 06:28.12 | atula | clear |
| 06:28.35 | cesurasean1 | could my problem be a bad ethernet card? |
| 06:28.44 | atula | apt-get --purge remove package + deborphan should return my machine to the clean state before I install that package ? |
| 06:28.49 | cesurasean1 | i doubt it |
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| 06:38.06 | yoshio | cesurasean1, I've heard of weird hardware problems caused by a marginal power supply. you did say it was working for a long time before. you did an update on the linux side after the problems appeared, or before? |
| 06:38.39 | cesurasean1 | it seems my netgear sc101 might be interfering with it |
| 06:38.54 | cesurasean1 | it keeps disconnecting when i connect to the server |
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| 07:02.58 | sauvin | What kind of condition is squeeze in? |
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| 07:03.43 | dondelelcaro | sauvin: there are about 180 RC bugs affecting squeeze. |
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| 07:03.52 | FilipeMaia | Can anyone recommend a good book to learn emacs? |
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| 08:08.54 | InsensitiveClod | Linux Chrome users: annoyed by the unconfigurable mouse wheel scrolling speed? Star this and maybe add a comment: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=22638 |
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| 08:18.33 | HackeMate | morning |
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| 08:18.47 | HackeMate | what IM client i can use that support file transfer and video chat? |
| 08:18.57 | HackeMate | i tried pidgin, isntantbird, both fail somehow |
| 08:19.40 | zwamkat | HackeMate: What about Skype? |
| 08:19.59 | HackeMate | skype support msn protocol? |
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| 08:20.11 | Dewi | HackeMate: you didn't mention that part |
| 08:20.16 | zwamkat | Ha. Hm. Not sure. Don't think so/ |
| 08:20.17 | HackeMate | sorry |
| 08:20.26 | HackeMate | im looking for a multiprotocol |
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| 08:24.15 | zwamkat | Does this table help? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients |
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| 08:25.01 | HackeMate | zwamkat: thanks! |
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| 09:07.25 | solidrock | guys, what do you mean by volatile? |
| 09:07.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: volatile |
| 09:07.54 | dpkg | Debian Volatile is a project that aims at keeping the <stable> and <oldstable> distributions up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. http://www.debian.org/volatile/ An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free See also <squeeze volatile> <volatile mirrors>. |
| 09:08.04 | smurfke | HWould it be a bad idea to run debian virtualized in Hyper-V instead of the more popular VMWare? |
| 09:08.51 | EmleyMoor | It's never a bad idea to run Debian - but how any particular VM copes with it, I don't know |
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| 09:09.57 | smurfke | Ok, I'm in doubt as to whether a Microsoft product is able to virtualize linux properly. |
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| 09:16.11 | virtualite | perhaps soon - now that theyve bought all the suse patents |
| 09:16.13 | virtualite | :P |
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| 09:22.08 | delby | anyone knows how to configure syslinux to boot default from boot menu (not boot prompt) without delay or pressing any keys? |
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| 09:25.39 | SPF | delby: you mean skipping the boot menu? |
| 09:26.24 | SPF | try setting delay to 0 |
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| 09:31.16 | delby | SPF: ok. thanks. |
| 09:32.43 | Guest66630 | hmm, doesn't 0 mean 'wait indefinitely' ? |
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| 09:34.48 | delby | i dont know, i never used it before, its for live-build and the man page is not very clear, all i know is i dont want it to show the boot menu (Live, Live failsafe, etc.) at all. just boot default directly. |
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| 09:40.58 | niklaswe | delby: if you set timeout = 0 then it will automattically boot the system |
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| 09:41.38 | beerpages | Willst du ein eigenes Gästebuch? Erstell dir eins auf www.beerpages.de |
| 09:41.39 | niklaswe | and if you comment out prompt it doesnt show you any prompt. |
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| 09:42.32 | zealiod | i'm trying to mark packets with ebtables and then us tc to control bandwidth rate based on mac address, i seem to be haf way there... it's just not working... these are my simple rules... any thoughts? http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=35052 |
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| 09:49.43 | tgywa | How can I tell to which physical disk is a given device attached ? |
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| 09:53.49 | delby | thaks all :) |
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| 09:54.18 | cr3 | hi |
| 09:54.22 | niklaswe | tgywa: how do you mean? |
| 09:54.35 | cr3 | can someone discourage me from installing 64 bit Debian, please? |
| 09:55.07 | EmleyMoor | cr3: Why? |
| 09:55.23 | tgywa | niklaswe, I have a VMWare Debian machine with 5 virtual disks. SCSI 0:0 to SCSI 0:4 |
| 09:55.39 | cr3 | EmleyMoor, because it seems i'll be more frustrated if i install it |
| 09:55.56 | EmleyMoor | cr3: Once again, why? |
| 09:55.57 | jelly | cr3: do you have a technical question instead? |
| 09:56.04 | cr3 | no technical questions |
| 09:56.10 | cr3 | this if philosophical question |
| 09:56.18 | tgywa | One of the devices is getting full and I would like the to do disk expansion. /dev/sdb1 .... 95 % |
| 09:56.25 | tgywa | niklaswe, One of the devices is getting full and I would like the to do disk expansion. /dev/sdb1 .... 95 % |
| 09:56.29 | acemi | 64 works great |
| 09:56.38 | cr3 | with what |
| 09:56.54 | cr3 | can i run 32bit wine apps(games) on 64bit Debian? |
| 09:57.10 | EmleyMoor | cr3: You should be able to |
| 09:57.11 | acemi | I don't use wine apps |
| 09:57.26 | tgywa | nick_h, my question is to which physical VHD(SCSI0:0 ?) /dev/sdb1 is attached to ? |
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| 09:58.25 | GreenM0nk | hi all |
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| 09:59.09 | niklaswe | SCSI0:0 should be /dev/sda |
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| 10:00.17 | GreenM0nk | i intend to display my tablet as a usb gadget when connected to my pc. installed debian on and compiled a custmo kernel with the USB Gadget support (File-backed storage gadget) module enabled. Anything else i should do? |
| 10:00.31 | cr3 | still dunno |
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| 10:02.32 | cr3 | also, how much more space do i need to install all these "ia32" libs etc? i mean these ported 32 bit libraries or somethings. i don't know what that means. |
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| 10:03.08 | EmleyMoor | cr3: It's a trivial amount really - you may not need many of them anyway |
| 10:03.13 | GreenM0nk | cr3: not too much it's small. how much do you have? |
| 10:03.37 | GreenM0nk | cr3: well why do you need those 1a32 libs? (any specific pkg requires that?) |
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| 10:04.14 | cr3 | GreenM0nk, no, i'm just reading debian amd64 how-to before installing |
| 10:05.25 | GreenM0nk | GreenM0nk: then just go ahead and install. why ask about some pkg :) |
| 10:05.40 | cr3 | um : P |
| 10:05.41 | GreenM0nk | cr3: dont worry if you screw up the first time. there's always a second |
| 10:06.07 | cr3 | no but i don't have the time to try again : P |
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| 10:06.31 | cr3 | i've got slackware 32bit installed right now |
| 10:06.51 | cr3 | i think i've tried debian64 bit but this was 2 years ago |
| 10:07.24 | GreenM0nk | cr3: it's easier than slackware install. |
| 10:07.28 | EmleyMoor | About the same length of time I've been using it |
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| 10:08.28 | EmleyMoor | I am actually down to only one 32-bit machine and 3 64s now - and the 32-bit is to be decommissioned within a month of squeeze going stable. |
| 10:09.19 | GreenM0nk | EmleyMoor: "sqeeze"? |
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| 10:09.51 | EmleyMoor | "squeeze" as in the currently fro |
| 10:09.56 | EmleyMoor | "squeeze" as in the currently frozen testing |
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| 10:10.56 | GreenM0nk | EmleyMoor: ah! it suprised me as i thought debian 32-bit was going to be decommissioned :) read the sentence again to know that it was only your 32bit machine :) |
| 10:11.28 | EmleyMoor | Ah, right - fair enough |
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| 10:12.19 | EmleyMoor | I am merging hat machine with one of the others, effectively |
| 10:12.23 | EmleyMoor | that |
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| 10:14.24 | razieliyo | hi |
| 10:14.43 | razieliyo | I've just downloaded a debian netinst and I've booted it, but it doesn't detect the keyboard |
| 10:15.02 | razieliyo | it stays at the installer boot menu and with no keyboard |
| 10:15.07 | razieliyo | is this a common problem or what? |
| 10:15.12 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: Is it an AT, PS/2 or USB keyboard? |
| 10:15.15 | razieliyo | USB |
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| 10:16.00 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, can usb keyboard give problems? |
| 10:16.03 | cr3 | what's AT |
| 10:16.11 | EmleyMoor | Not that it's usually a problem but what setting have you got for USB legacy devices in the BIOS+2~? |
| 10:16.32 | razieliyo | I'm gonna see, wait |
| 10:16.36 | EmleyMoor | cr3: Same thing as PS/2 but with a 5-pin "A" DIN plug |
| 10:16.46 | cr3 | ok |
| 10:17.09 | razieliyo | legacy support disabled |
| 10:17.11 | razieliyo | do I enable it? |
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| 10:17.17 | razieliyo | I think so |
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| 10:17.24 | EmleyMoor | I'd suggest trying it and seeing |
| 10:17.29 | razieliyo | yeah, I'll ty |
| 10:17.30 | razieliyo | try |
| 10:17.39 | razieliyo | I've always installed debian with a ps2 keyboad |
| 10:17.43 | EmleyMoor | (think I had this happen with one last week!) |
| 10:17.44 | razieliyo | but this time I've got an usb |
| 10:18.22 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, haha |
| 10:18.22 | EmleyMoor | My first one was with an AT keyboard |
| 10:18.24 | razieliyo | now it works |
| 10:18.28 | razieliyo | what a shame for me |
| 10:18.50 | razieliyo | by the way, how's debian nowadays? |
| 10:19.10 | razieliyo | I haven't tried it for the las 3 or 4 years |
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| 10:19.33 | EmleyMoor | Debian suits me fine most of the time - gets a bit old hat from time to time but that's no great problem |
| 10:19.48 | razieliyo | that never was a problem really |
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| 10:20.21 | razieliyo | debian sometimes is hard to set up, but when it's done, it's a megamachine |
| 10:20.41 | Iridos | you mean it's heavy? |
| 10:20.50 | razieliyo | no, I mean it's great |
| 10:20.59 | Iridos | ah, large |
| 10:21.17 | razieliyo | sorry if I don't explain myself very well |
| 10:21.20 | razieliyo | I'm spanish |
| 10:21.33 | EmleyMoor | Iridos: No, he means "very good" |
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| 10:23.03 | razieliyo | hmmm |
| 10:23.03 | tgywa | Can any body tell me the differece between /dev/sd, |
| 10:23.03 | tgywa | /dev/st, |
| 10:23.03 | tgywa | /dev/sg |
| 10:23.04 | tgywa | ? |
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| 10:23.14 | razieliyo | I always get stuck at how much space give to home |
| 10:23.22 | razieliyo | I think 30 gb will suite perfectly |
| 10:23.45 | sep | razieliyo, i use lvm then give minimum... then grow it as needed |
| 10:24.04 | razieliyo | I dont know about lvm, I'll google a bit |
| 10:24.20 | EmleyMoor | I usually end up with loads of spare. I use lvm on two of my machines - would on the third if it had worked first time |
| 10:24.29 | Iridos | I see ;) I was just joking, razieliyo I had understood you |
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| 10:25.03 | razieliyo | lol |
| 10:25.14 | EmleyMoor | (in fact, both of my working lvm setups are on RAID 6!) |
| 10:25.25 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, so, if I wanna use lvm, I've got to leave some space unpartitioned? |
| 10:25.30 | Iridos | and I thought about 1TB is right for /home or 2TB... depends how much you have, no? |
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| 10:26.05 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: Not necessarily - but you must create a partition to be a physical LVM space to start with |
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| 10:27.35 | EmleyMoor | At least with lvm it's not much of a job to adjust partitions if you need to. Without it, the "Parted Magic" live CD can prove useful |
| 10:28.12 | razieliyo | and another question |
| 10:28.23 | razieliyo | I have to install debian before I use lvm, no? |
| 10:28.34 | razieliyo | I can't do it at the install I think |
| 10:28.41 | razieliyo | at least not when partitioning |
| 10:28.43 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: You can set up LVM as part of installing Debian |
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| 10:29.39 | EmleyMoor | You can - you just have to designate one or more partitions as "physical volume for LVM" rather than "ext3fs flie system" for example |
| 10:29.45 | razieliyo | nice |
| 10:29.48 | razieliyo | I'll try |
| 10:29.52 | razieliyo | I'll give home 1 gb |
| 10:30.08 | razieliyo | but boot has to be at a normal partition? |
| 10:30.27 | razieliyo | I've read something about that |
| 10:30.34 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: Quite possibly. In fact, I keep my /boot on a RAID1 on its own |
| 10:30.40 | razieliyo | boot is not included on the LV because bootloaders don't understand LVM volumes yet. |
| 10:30.52 | razieliyo | nice, I'll try and comment |
| 10:31.33 | razieliyo | sorry if I'm too heavy, I've drinked coffee and I'm not used to |
| 10:32.50 | razieliyo | drinked... |
| 10:32.54 | razieliyo | drank I mean |
| 10:32.55 | EmleyMoor | Only place I do not yet have any intention of using LVM is on VMs. One day, that may change too |
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| 10:34.19 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, when I create an lvm, it doesn't ask me about mounting point |
| 10:34.28 | razieliyo | when do I set up that? |
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| 10:34.54 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: Because you need to create volumes inside it and the filesystems therein have those |
| 10:34.57 | tgywa | How can I determine disk drive information on debian VM ? |
| 10:35.37 | razieliyo | oh, wait wait, so, I have to create a big lvm partition and inside that, I've to create the home, /, and so? |
| 10:35.43 | jelly | dpkg, tell tgywa about whats my hardware |
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| 10:37.41 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: Yes. There may be intermediate stages to the setup but it's fairly self-explanatory |
| 10:38.25 | neil_d | I have mdadm setup... my question is when do the RAID devices get setup? does the call to mdadm in the /etc/init.d/mdadm file start them? |
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| 10:38.38 | razieliyo | nice, so I think I've got enough with 80gb for all |
| 10:39.19 | razieliyo | primary or logic? |
| 10:39.21 | razieliyo | or doesn't mind? |
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| 10:40.11 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: If usig a /boot partition and, for everythisg else, an LVM, I'd go primary throughout, but it doesn't matter on the whole |
| 10:40.33 | razieliyo | yes, I'll make the boot apart |
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| 10:41.13 | Ramattack | join #gentoo |
| 10:41.25 | razieliyo | lol |
| 10:41.33 | EmleyMoor | Ramattack: No thanks, I'm happy here <g> |
| 10:41.35 | Ramattack | lol sorry :) |
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| 10:41.48 | Ramattack | I wanted to do it with "/" |
| 10:41.52 | Ramattack | :) |
| 10:42.10 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, it tells me that there's no root directory... |
| 10:42.34 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: You need to go on further with the lvm setup, and create a / partition |
| 10:42.35 | razieliyo | do I have to create a base root anyway? |
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| 10:42.59 | EmleyMoor | (a / filesystem inside the lvm is fine) |
| 10:43.15 | razieliyo | yes, but I can't do that at partitioning |
| 10:43.26 | razieliyo | I think I would do that after this |
| 10:43.30 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: Prod the right bit and you can |
| 10:43.36 | razieliyo | but if I can't continue it's a bit hard |
| 10:44.09 | EmleyMoor | Is there an option "set up LVM" or similar visible? |
| 10:44.20 | razieliyo | no, it isnt |
| 10:44.46 | EmleyMoor | OK, tell me what you see... can you see the lvm volume? |
| 10:44.50 | razieliyo | there are an LVM option at selecting format |
| 10:45.00 | razieliyo | yes, I've made a partition with 60 gb |
| 10:45.17 | razieliyo | and I've set it to LVM where you select ext2, ext3, jfs and so on |
| 10:45.33 | razieliyo | and when I select LVM, just another option is visible |
| 10:45.40 | razieliyo | it tells something about booting mark |
| 10:45.52 | razieliyo | enable or disabled |
| 10:45.56 | EmleyMoor | OK - are you back at the main partitioning part? |
| 10:45.56 | razieliyo | but that's all |
| 10:46.01 | razieliyo | yes |
| 10:46.10 | razieliyo | I'm seeing my hds |
| 10:46.20 | razieliyo | and my partitions |
| 10:46.21 | EmleyMoor | OK - what are the items below the HDs? |
| 10:46.43 | razieliyo | undo changes and fnish partitioning |
| 10:46.49 | razieliyo | WHAT THE HELL |
| 10:46.51 | razieliyo | HAHAHA |
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| 10:46.58 | razieliyo | at the top it says, configure LVM |
| 10:46.59 | razieliyo | sorry sorry |
| 10:47.01 | EmleyMoor | And at the very top? |
| 10:47.12 | EmleyMoor | Knew it was there somewhere |
| 10:47.17 | razieliyo | yes yes, thanks |
| 10:47.25 | razieliyo | you have to be angry by now |
| 10:47.54 | EmleyMoor | No - simple mistake |
| 10:48.10 | razieliyo | do I have to tell some special volume group name? |
| 10:48.15 | razieliyo | or I can name it however I want? |
| 10:48.31 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: The default is adequate - or call it whatever you |
| 10:48.33 | EmleyMoor | want |
| 10:48.35 | razieliyo | the good of this is that next time I'd do this by myself |
| 10:48.59 | frikinz | Is there any graphical interface for creating/handling encrypted partitions (luks) or only cryptsetup? |
| 10:49.18 | frikinz | I got my laptop stolen a few days ago :( |
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| 10:49.26 | razieliyo | so, when creating logic volumes, do I have to write, /home for example, or just home and so |
| 10:49.52 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: home. The volume name is just loose. The mount point is selected later |
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| 10:50.03 | razieliyo | nice |
| 10:50.16 | EmleyMoor | (they don't even have to have similar names) |
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| 10:50.25 | razieliyo | and if I want to resize, do I have to do it manually, or is this automatic? |
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| 10:50.53 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: A little manual work is needed but not major work. Read the LVM HOWTO |
| 10:51.09 | razieliyo | I'll go on |
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| 10:52.01 | razieliyo | this is freaking easy |
| 10:52.02 | razieliyo | I like this |
| 10:52.42 | ROKO__ | http://extremebg.co.cc/images/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BA%D0%B0.png |
| 10:52.44 | ROKO__ | hmmmm |
| 10:52.45 | ROKO__ | .... |
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| 10:53.44 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, just a more question |
| 10:54.07 | razieliyo | I've set up the home, but not the root because I can, I think I'll have to set it up later, no? |
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| 10:54.14 | razieliyo | I can't* |
| 10:54.23 | EmleyMoor | You must have a root |
| 10:54.25 | CyberDomovoy | what's the point with all those "*-ng" software? what next? "*-nng"? can't they just fork the original with a real name, or update the original? |
| 10:54.40 | razieliyo | and how do I name the volume? I can't name it / |
| 10:54.48 | EmleyMoor | How about "root"? |
| 10:54.53 | neil_d | I have mdadm setup... my question is when do the RAID devices get setup? does the call to mdadm in the /etc/init.d/mdadm file start them? |
| 10:54.54 | razieliyo | nice, I think it will fits |
| 10:54.58 | razieliyo | fit* |
| 10:55.04 | ROKO__ | what is problem |
| 10:55.12 | ROKO__ | durring installation vmware in debian |
| 10:55.14 | ROKO__ | ? |
| 10:55.26 | razieliyo | I've made root and home |
| 10:55.33 | razieliyo | it just fits for me |
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| 10:56.07 | ROKO__ | ??????? |
| 10:56.23 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: You probably wast usr and var too, and some swap and maybe tmp... feel free to fill the volume, you can adjust sizes later if you miscalculated |
| 10:56.42 | ROKO__ | anyone here |
| 10:56.42 | ROKO__ | ? |
| 10:56.57 | EmleyMoor | ROKO__: What is your actual question? |
| 10:57.20 | ROKO__ | why cannot compile vmware modules |
| 10:57.21 | ROKO__ | ? |
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| 10:57.57 | EmleyMoor | ROKO__: What is happening when you try? |
| 10:57.59 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, I'll do that |
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| 10:58.06 | ROKO__ | EmleyMoor |
| 10:58.09 | ROKO__ | look at screen |
| 10:58.10 | ROKO__ | ... |
| 10:58.16 | ROKO__ | just try start vmware workstation |
| 10:58.30 | ROKO__ | and he ask compile modules |
| 10:58.31 | ROKO__ | but fails |
| 10:58.33 | ROKO__ | ... |
| 10:58.54 | EmleyMoor | ROKO__: I can't see your screen |
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| 10:59.05 | ROKO__ | http://extremebg.co.cc/images/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BA%D0%B0.png |
| 10:59.07 | ROKO__ | sry |
| 10:59.09 | ROKO__ | look |
| 11:00.04 | ROKO__ | so ? |
| 11:00.17 | EmleyMoor | Patience! |
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| 11:00.36 | ROKO__ | ? |
| 11:00.58 | EmleyMoor | OK - what does it say in the log? |
| 11:00.59 | ROKO__ | okay |
| 11:01.25 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, now I've got the 5 volumes I want, but when I want to continue, it still tells me I have to have a root directory, but in configuring LVM it doesn't say nothing about setting mount point |
| 11:01.37 | razieliyo | but at least I can see the volumes at partition list |
| 11:01.47 | ROKO__ | EmleyMoor http://dpaste.org/ntIg/ |
| 11:01.52 | razieliyo | I enter them but it doesn't do nothing |
| 11:01.59 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: Select FS types and mount points from there |
| 11:02.04 | razieliyo | we are making him to explode |
| 11:02.38 | ROKO__ | vmnet failed |
| 11:02.39 | razieliyo | nice, thanks |
| 11:02.49 | ROKO__ | vmci failed |
| 11:03.18 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, sorry for all this, I was misunderstanding something, I've noticed just now |
| 11:03.23 | razieliyo | but really thanks for this =) |
| 11:03.48 | EmleyMoor | ROKO__: Have you tried running those makes yourself to see why they fail? |
| 11:04.01 | ROKO__ | how ? |
| 11:05.19 | EmleyMoor | ROKO__: Take the /usr/bin/make lines and paste them into a shell prompt |
| 11:05.44 | razieliyo | AT LEAST |
| 11:06.01 | ROKO__ | EmleyMoor (2:521)# make -C /tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmnet- |
| 11:06.01 | ROKO__ | make: *** /tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmnet-: ÐÑма ÑакÑв Ñайл или диÑекÑоÑиÑ. Stop. |
| 11:06.06 | ROKO__ | no such file or directory |
| 11:06.21 | razieliyo | here's some nice music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lACSvDOLhLU |
| 11:06.32 | razieliyo | to thank you |
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| 11:06.49 | EmleyMoor | ROKO__: That's not the complete line |
| 11:06.57 | ROKO__ | ? |
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| 11:07.20 | ROKO__ | what do you mean |
| 11:07.21 | ROKO__ | ? |
| 11:07.34 | ROKO__ | /tmp/vmware-root/modules |
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| 11:07.40 | ROKO__ | no such file or directory |
| 11:07.40 | ROKO__ | ... |
| 11:08.01 | EmleyMoor | Everything on that line up to and includinc the VMCCVER=4.3.5 is needed |
| 11:08.06 | razieliyo | lol, debian netinst is installing 2.6.26 instead of 32 |
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| 11:08.36 | acemi | razieliyo: it's lenny, the current stable |
| 11:08.38 | ROKO__ | EmleyMoor cannot undarstend you |
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| 11:08.54 | acemi | squeeze has 2.6.32 |
| 11:09.03 | razieliyo | I should have downloaded squeeze |
| 11:09.16 | EmleyMoor | ROKO__: You pasted only the first 27 characters of the make command - it is much longer if you read the log |
| 11:09.23 | razieliyo | didn't know netinst were different |
| 11:09.24 | acemi | if you want to install the curretn testing, yes |
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| 11:09.47 | razieliyo | acemi, I think I will cancel everything and download testing |
| 11:10.09 | cahoot | ROKO__: ..and it's quite useless to paste in channel |
| 11:11.18 | ROKO__ | EmleyMoor http://dpaste.org/Mk57/ |
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| 11:11.36 | Iridos | !tell razieliyo -about kmuto |
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| 11:12.34 | ravenzz | hello |
| 11:12.36 | ROKO__ | so ? EmleyMoor |
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| 11:12.57 | EmleyMoor | I can't work that out |
| 11:13.48 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, I'll have to do everything all over again, so we'll se if I've understood |
| 11:13.49 | razieliyo | haha |
| 11:14.18 | EmleyMoor | razieliyo: Fair enough - don't mind being asked |
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| 11:14.29 | razieliyo | pretty kind |
| 11:14.37 | razieliyo | I think I've learned it |
| 11:14.52 | EmleyMoor | ROKO__: Part of my problem is that some of your output appears to be in Russian |
| 11:14.53 | razieliyo | you are a crack at this I see |
| 11:15.16 | ROKO__ | what ? |
| 11:15.29 | razieliyo | he says he doesn't understand russian lang |
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| 11:15.45 | razieliyo | maybe if you could translate it... |
| 11:15.50 | ROKO__ | hm |
| 11:15.55 | ROKO__ | what mean for russian |
| 11:16.00 | ROKO__ | i am bulgarian |
| 11:16.00 | ROKO__ | ? |
| 11:16.03 | EmleyMoor | Thot may not actually be relevant but it doesn't help. |
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| 11:16.18 | razieliyo | well, that looks like russian |
| 11:16.22 | EmleyMoor | Ah, well, it will be Bulgarian then - sorry... |
| 11:16.38 | EmleyMoor | is not seeing too clearly right now anyway |
| 11:16.51 | ROKO__ | razieliyo yes ... its slavic bulgarian and russian |
| 11:16.51 | ROKO__ | ... |
| 11:16.58 | ROKO__ | so any idea for vmware ? |
| 11:17.00 | razieliyo | the lang doesn't mind, the problem is that he doesn't understand it |
| 11:17.11 | razieliyo | neither me, btw |
| 11:17.42 | EmleyMoor | I've never worked with vmware, and your build problem is not one I can understand either |
| 11:17.43 | razieliyo | ROKO__, is that any kind of dialect derived from russian? |
| 11:18.00 | ROKO__ | razieliyo maibe |
| 11:18.01 | ROKO__ | .. |
| 11:18.09 | ROKO__ | what mean this with my question ? |
| 11:18.27 | razieliyo | ROKO__, sorry if I'm offending you... that isn't my purpose |
| 11:18.40 | razieliyo | that's because I'm asking you |
| 11:18.53 | razieliyo | do you use the same characters? |
| 11:19.03 | ROKO__ | razieliyo yes ... |
| 11:19.07 | EmleyMoor | Cyrillic - can see that |
| 11:19.56 | razieliyo | ROKO__, what about joining #vmware? |
| 11:20.01 | ROKO__ | nothing |
| 11:20.02 | razieliyo | ROKO__, what about joining #vmware-ru? |
| 11:20.02 | ROKO__ | ... |
| 11:20.08 | ROKO__ | nothing |
| 11:20.21 | razieliyo | doesn't exists I see |
| 11:20.24 | ROKO__ | have peoples but no help |
| 11:20.41 | razieliyo | misfortuned |
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| 11:20.49 | ROKO__ | because he think problem is debian |
| 11:20.54 | ROKO__ | no vmware problem ^^ |
| 11:20.57 | ROKO__ | and i ask here |
| 11:21.18 | EmleyMoor | ROKO__: I can't see anything specific to Debian in the problem - ICBW, but it's beyond me |
| 11:21.21 | razieliyo | last chance is googling |
| 11:21.31 | ROKO__ | i dont know EmleyMoor |
| 11:21.32 | ROKO__ | ... |
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| 11:31.43 | caraconan | Hi all. I desinstalled mysql-server, removed /etc/mysql by error, and reinstalled again mysql-server, but can't start due to the lack of the config directoru (/etc/mysql). How can I install this package? |
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| 11:32.33 | rudi_s | caraconan: purge and reinstall should work. |
| 11:32.45 | razieliyo | EmleyMoor, I've all the volumes done!! this is nice |
| 11:32.48 | caraconan | I already purged, by I will try it again |
| 11:32.52 | razieliyo | I haven't got to work again |
| 11:33.54 | razieliyo | hey, what about ext4? |
| 11:34.08 | chouchou | hello good morning all, please is there a possibility and how can we create a VPN tunneling for VoIP which can work with blocked and unblocked area Blocked area like UAE, Oman ? |
| 11:34.10 | EmleyMoor | hasn't gone for ext4 yet |
| 11:34.28 | razieliyo | I don't know if I should try |
| 11:34.32 | razieliyo | wikipedia says it's faster |
| 11:34.49 | razieliyo | I'll try it |
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| 11:35.39 | caraconan | /etc/init.d/mysql: WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian.gz ... (warning). |
| 11:37.12 | caraconan | I can't reinstall this package again ? |
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| 11:38.02 | SlayerXP | caraconan: we don't know, can't you? |
| 11:38.33 | caraconan | I can't, I didn't found any my.conf sample file... |
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| 11:50.16 | vinvin | hello, is this normal that when I want to install gnuplot, apt tries to get me 3D rendering libs and audio servers? |
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| 11:50.22 | vinvin | I think there is a problem here |
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| 11:53.37 | vinvin | ok it's the -nox package I should use |
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| 12:05.52 | ctp | hi all. anyone can help me with a simple mod_rewrite rule? |
| 12:06.05 | abrotman | just ask (or try #httpd) |
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| 12:08.13 | ctp | i wanna redirect all traffic to http://www.foobar.com/index.php to http://www.foobar.com/index.php?cl=foo, so my cond is RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} index\.php$ but it redirects http://www.foobar/baz/index.php too but it shouldnt |
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| 12:11.01 | stew | ctp: change index\.php$ to ^/index\.php$ |
| 12:11.16 | stew | ctp: ^ matching the beginning of the URI (without the hostname) |
| 12:12.35 | ctp | cool, so simple. works fine ;-) thx |
| 12:13.49 | zealiod | the following works fine for limited an IPs download, but does nothing to the upload... what am i missing? http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=35053 |
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| 12:28.31 | Jon2 | Hey, would anybody know how to make a script that would allow people to get a free shell on my server by completing an online form? |
| 12:28.45 | Jon2 | And it would need to automatically set up the shell for them. |
| 12:29.31 | ravenzz | http://php.net/manual/en/function.system.php |
| 12:29.32 | ravenzz | ? |
| 12:29.53 | RunTimeWorld | Jon2, yes |
| 12:29.58 | i5noc | sigh |
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| 12:30.02 | Jon2 | RunTimeWorld: How? |
| 12:30.03 | petemc | Jon2: that sounds fairly prone to abuse, fwiw |
| 12:30.12 | Jon2 | And are there any scripts already available for it? |
| 12:30.21 | RunTimeWorld | I will send you my paypal account if you wanna hire |
| 12:30.26 | RunTimeWorld | else do research |
| 12:30.39 | HackeMate | hello, i have a problem starting session: there was an error with the config /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 status 256 |
| 12:30.42 | Jon2 | petemc: I'd probably end up setting something to allow only so many users a day. |
| 12:30.51 | ravenzz | maybe you can |
| 12:30.58 | ravenzz | add a request form |
| 12:31.10 | Jon2 | RunTimeWorld: Nah, I don't really want to pay for this, I can probably get someone from my network staff to do it if I don't have the time. |
| 12:31.39 | Jon2 | ravenzz: i already have a request form, but it doesn't notify me when a request comes in, I gotta check it every day. |
| 12:31.52 | ravenzz | Jon2 mail() |
| 12:31.52 | ravenzz | ? |
| 12:32.00 | RunTimeWorld | you come with requirements and specs, not with question... sounds like freebie |
| 12:32.11 | RunTimeWorld | my 2 cents |
| 12:32.14 | RunTimeWorld | sorry |
| 12:32.17 | ravenzz | btw google can help you |
| 12:32.27 | Jon2 | ravenzz: I don't have a mail server on my network, we use external mail servers |
| 12:32.36 | ravenzz | you can |
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| 12:35.13 | ravenzz | http://bit.ly/gJ9OgA |
| 12:35.24 | ravenzz | or write your own mailer function |
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| 12:37.28 | ravenzz | i need some help with ddos attacks |
| 12:37.30 | ravenzz | anyone? |
| 12:37.37 | Jon2 | Firewalls |
| 12:37.52 | abrotman | ravenzz: you should call your ISP .. if it's reaching your server, you're already screwed |
| 12:38.19 | ravenzz | uhm |
| 12:38.34 | ravenzz | so i'm already screwd!? |
| 12:38.58 | ravenzz | i've not experience with fw |
| 12:39.17 | abrotman | ravenzz: if your firewall is dealing with it, you're consuming bandwidth and system resources |
| 12:39.19 | ravenzz | i've a vps with a webserver and ssh access |
| 12:39.37 | ravenzz | only that 2 services |
| 12:39.45 | ravenzz | i'm already filtering http traffic |
| 12:41.08 | ravenzz | is a good idea to block all incoming traffic and allow only http and ssh one |
| 12:41.19 | ravenzz | ? |
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| 12:42.01 | petemc | ravenzz: are you running services other than ssh or http? |
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| 12:42.05 | ravenzz | no |
| 12:43.01 | petemc | then what would blocking traffic to non existent services achie e? |
| 12:43.10 | abrotman | ravenzz: how is the DDOS happening? ping? http requests? |
| 12:43.14 | ravenzz | yes what i thing |
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| 12:44.12 | ravenzz | abrotman i dont know.. |
| 12:44.24 | ravenzz | time ago with http requests |
| 12:44.46 | ravenzz | but now i filter http traffic so i solved that issue |
| 12:45.16 | ravenzz | (sorry for my bad engl) |
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| 12:46.50 | abrotman | but you're filtering at the server ... |
| 12:48.34 | ravenzz | added this rules to my fw |
| 12:48.35 | ravenzz | http://pastie.org/1344302 |
| 12:48.48 | ravenzz | it saved me from tons of http requests |
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| 12:51.21 | abrotman | You're missing the point ... |
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| 12:52.04 | ravenzz | you mean.. yes i filter anyway it can overload the server |
| 12:52.07 | ravenzz | ? |
| 12:52.37 | abrotman | Call your ISP, see if they're willing to help you |
| 12:52.56 | ravenzz | mailed the hosting company |
| 12:53.05 | ravenzz | but there is no support |
| 12:53.27 | ravenzz | i've buyed my vps and i've not support for that things |
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| 12:56.16 | ravenzz | http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7233/immaginelv.png |
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| 12:56.21 | ravenzz | that must be ddos |
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| 12:57.47 | ravenzz | eat time, bbl |
| 12:58.43 | slingshot316 | i'm on debian lenny and i've been trying to install compiz... its just not working |
| 12:58.55 | slingshot316 | someone help me out withthis please |
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| 12:59.11 | xyan | its just not working is a quite sloppy description of your problem |
| 12:59.19 | slingshot316 | well |
| 12:59.23 | poisonbit | can I know the preseed options that a package may have, without installing the package ? |
| 12:59.23 | slingshot316 | i did |
| 12:59.30 | slingshot316 | aptitude install compiz |
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| 12:59.32 | slingshot316 | and later |
| 12:59.54 | slingshot316 | compiz --replace |
| 13:00.03 | slingshot316 | its not working |
| 13:00.11 | xyan | error message? |
| 13:00.20 | xyan | what graphics hardware do you have is it known to work? |
| 13:00.31 | xyan | there was a tool to test your setup as far as i remember |
| 13:00.42 | slingshot316 | my lspci | grep -i vga otput it this |
| 13:00.47 | xyan | dont ask me for its name, i havent used compiz for ages |
| 13:00.48 | abrotman | -nn |
| 13:00.58 | abrotman | slingshot316: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 13:00.59 | slingshot316 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) |
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| 13:01.15 | xyan | slingshot316: do it with -nn as abrotman said |
| 13:01.26 | slingshot316 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2772] (rev 02) |
| 13:01.30 | Arrowmaster | go read the compiz site, theyve got some info somewhere about what to check |
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| 13:01.33 | slingshot316 | here it is with -nn |
| 13:02.12 | xyan | so does that chipset support 3d acceleration at all? |
| 13:02.22 | slingshot316 | i dont know |
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| 13:02.30 | slingshot316 | i tried doin glxinfo |
| 13:02.32 | Arrowmaster | i think `glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"` |
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| 13:02.36 | slingshot316 | it thorws error |
| 13:02.46 | poisonbit | slingshot316, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for W(arning) and E(rror) lines |
| 13:02.59 | poisonbit | man intel to know supported chipsets by the driber release |
| 13:02.59 | slingshot316 | poisonbit: one second |
| 13:03.00 | Arrowmaster | glxinfo throwing errors sounds bad |
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| 13:03.13 | poisonbit | yes |
| 13:03.20 | xyan | its supported by the i915 driver see http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2772 |
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| 13:03.35 | poisonbit | slingshot316, lenny or squeeze ? |
| 13:03.46 | slingshot316 | poisonbit: lenny |
| 13:03.53 | poisonbit | in lenny should just works, in squeeze there are notes about KMS |
| 13:03.56 | slingshot316 | poisonbit: the log file is huge |
| 13:04.07 | slingshot316 | poisonbit: should i send it on paste bin |
| 13:04.07 | slingshot316 | ? |
| 13:04.09 | poisonbit | ignore lines starting by I |
| 13:05.00 | poisonbit | you can pastebin of course, someone can read it for you :) |
| 13:05.08 | slingshot316 | xyan: i dont know if it supports 3d |
| 13:05.34 | abrotman | the intel card? yes it does |
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| 13:06.52 | slingshot316 | abrotman: okay |
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| 13:07.10 | slingshot316 | abrotman: debian:~# glxinfo Error: unable to open display |
| 13:07.21 | xyan | do it as regular user |
| 13:07.26 | slingshot316 | poisonbit: any suggestions? |
| 13:07.31 | slingshot316 | okay |
| 13:08.17 | slingshot316 | slingshot316@debian:~$ glxinfo | grep |
| 13:08.29 | slingshot316 | glxinfo | grep direct |
| 13:08.49 | slingshot316 | direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) |
| 13:08.53 | slingshot316 | they said |
| 13:09.00 | slingshot316 | it should say yes |
| 13:09.12 | poisonbit | LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo |
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| 13:09.53 | xyan | slingshot316: do you have libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libdrm-intel1 installed? |
| 13:10.16 | slingshot316 | xyan: no, i will install them now |
| 13:10.31 | slingshot316 | poisonbit: where should i set that? |
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| 13:11.02 | poisonbit | if you do not have that packages, that should be reflected in the xorg log |
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| 13:11.32 | poisonbit | and about howto set, see in any xterm: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo |
| 13:11.44 | slingshot316 | poisonbit: i'm installing the packages.. its taking sometime |
| 13:11.53 | poisonbit | good luck :) |
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| 13:16.22 | Mowee | Salut ^^ |
| 13:16.56 | slingshot316 | xyan: glxinfo direct is set to yes after installing the packages.. thank you |
| 13:17.07 | slingshot316 | poisonbit: its working now, thank you :) |
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| 13:17.25 | DannyButterman | Hi there |
| 13:17.32 | poisonbit | slingshot316, no, thanks to xyan the wizard :) |
| 13:17.51 | DannyButterman | I'm trying to set up proftpd virtual users on a debian lenny server, I think everything should be could according to various howto's I've read, but so far, to no avail |
| 13:17.57 | DannyButterman | can someone help me ? |
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| 13:18.44 | xyan | ;) |
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| 13:22.53 | HackeMate | hi |
| 13:22.56 | HackeMate | how to configure auto login? |
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| 13:24.25 | cahoot | gnome? |
| 13:24.41 | HackeMate | yes |
| 13:25.15 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.45 | HackeMate | oh, so easy |
| 13:25.46 | HackeMate | thanks |
| 13:26.13 | cahoot | np |
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| 13:50.51 | sec_goat | Here's a fun one: I had to download some ridiculous windows EXE that self extracted a bunch of PDFs, WINE put this on my C:\ . . . how do I find that now? |
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| 13:51.51 | nkuttler | sec_goat: man find |
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| 13:52.16 | jelly | sec_goat: inspect the contents of $HOME/.wine/ |
| 13:52.17 | sec_goat | nkuttler: interesting , thank you |
| 13:52.36 | babilen | sec_goat: ~/.wine/drive_c ? otherwise run winecfg it might tell you |
| 13:52.37 | jelly | sec_goat: also, run winecfg |
| 13:52.51 | Bushmills | check whether windows has an equivalent of dpkg, then try to use that with option -L |
| 13:53.03 | babilen | Bushmills: heh, good one ;) |
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| 13:53.09 | jelly | Bushmills: that answer is not silly enough. |
| 13:53.30 | jelly | deducts two silliness points from Bushmills. |
| 13:54.00 | Bushmills | sorry, i don't know the windows distribution well enough |
| 13:54.03 | spliffi | hi community, Iam on a Xen Host and wanted to create a new guest, what failed because the max amount of loop devices is reached...I googled a bit and found a couple of solutions. adding a line to /etc/modprobe.conf, adding a boot parameter in grubs config, or using a simple loop which create loop devices with mknod....would like to have it permanent of course. What would be the best solution of the three? |
| 13:54.43 | spliffi | it's debain lenny |
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| 13:55.09 | Bushmills | seems it is .exe based, not .deb, but those package tools tend to exist for any type of archive. |
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| 13:56.52 | sec_goat | Bushmills: but whois using Windows? |
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| 13:57.14 | abrotman | FWIW, some of those EXE can be unzipped |
| 13:57.17 | Bushmills | google says "a program loader, popular with gamers" |
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| 13:58.53 | sec_goat | ok you guys want silly: is there any way to make the system explorer behave mor eliek windows explorer? |
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| 13:59.31 | jelly | what is "system explorer", sec_goat? |
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| 13:59.53 | sec_goat | jelly: well I click places, then computer then when I navigate to a new folder it opens a new window eeverytime |
| 14:00.03 | sec_goat | I am not sure what the actuall program is called |
| 14:00.08 | dkr | nautilus |
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| 14:00.34 | sec_goat | yes, then I want nautilus to be more like its retarded cousin Windows Explorer |
| 14:00.45 | jelly | ah, you want it not to open a separate window for each folder? |
| 14:00.52 | sec_goat | yes |
| 14:01.19 | babilen | spliffi: Looks as if creating a file with the content "loop max_loop=N" in /etc/modprobe.d/ does the trick |
| 14:01.23 | dkr | that's a config option, did you look at the preferences? |
| 14:01.26 | cahoot | you can set that in gconf-editor |
| 14:01.30 | Chris___ | this isn't so much specific to Debian as it is just to general linux/internet, but.. my IRC network got nuked with a botnet last night. I got the list of the IP's used, I don't suppose there's some epic search/grep command I can use to automagically look up the abuse@domain emails of each IP and then dump them in a text file for a mass e-mail, is there? |
| 14:02.13 | spliffi | @babilien thx I'll give it a shot |
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| 14:03.30 | babilen | spliffi: Make sure that you don't have any loop devices, remove the "loop" module and insert it again ... See http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-xen-on-debian-lenny-amd64 for other things Debian+Xen |
| 14:04.00 | dkr | Chris___: whois $ip |grep OrgAbuseName in a loop? |
| 14:04.06 | babilen | spliffi: You have to adjust N to a sensible number (e.g. 64 as suggested) |
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| 14:04.33 | ImmerDerBest | hi there .. i'm looking for some debian packager with proposal |
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| 14:04.59 | babilen | ImmerDerBest: What? |
| 14:05.03 | sec_goat | thanks guys i am workign with it now |
| 14:05.14 | spliffi | @ babilen, ok I#ll do that, thx again |
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| 14:05.21 | ImmerDerBest | babilen: are you packager? ;) |
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| 14:05.57 | babilen | ImmerDerBest: What are you trying to achieve? What if I were, indeed, a Debian Developer/Maintainer? |
| 14:06.21 | jelly | half expects ImmerDerBest to pull out a virtual gun on babilen |
| 14:06.34 | dkr | sec_goat: apps...natuailus..prefs..always_use_browser is the option, I think |
| 14:06.35 | Chris___ | dkr: I had no idea linux had a "whois" command or that it was native to Debian |
| 14:06.36 | Chris___ | I love you |
| 14:06.38 | Chris___ | Thank you |
| 14:07.11 | sec_goat | dkr: cool thanks |
| 14:07.13 | roe | didn't know it was so easy to please people in this channel |
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| 14:07.39 | ImmerDerBest | babilen: i don't try to achieve anything .. i've just written good software which has actually semi-lot-of happy users and i ported this software to linux (it was in past for solaris only) so i'd like to offer it to debian guys .. it seems like it's accepted already for opensuse and fedora |
| 14:08.22 | jelly | !rfp |
| 14:08.22 | dpkg | Request For Package is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. |
| 14:08.38 | ImmerDerBest | ok, thanks |
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| 14:09.14 | babilen | ImmerDerBest: If you want someone else to do the packaging file a RFP (/msg dpkg rfp) and wait. If you want to speed-up the process read the New Maintainers Guide and start packaging. You would need a sponsor for your package then. Packaging is supported in #debian-mentors over at irc.oftc.net |
| 14:09.33 | sec_goat | dkr: yes sir that did it for me thanks! |
| 14:10.03 | babilen | !tell ImmerDerBest -about nmg |
| 14:10.07 | ImmerDerBest | babilen: yeah, this is what i want .. personally i really don't plan to be packager of any package |
| 14:10.22 | ecolitan | I'm trying to connect to an iSCSI target, and can login but i dont see any new device? |
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| 14:10.39 | ImmerDerBest | thanks babilen |
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| 14:13.18 | ecolitan | can anyone help me to mount the iSCSI? |
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| 14:15.53 | ImmerDerBest | ecolitan: http://www.google.cz/search?q=mount+iscsi+linux google will help you with such a triviality |
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| 14:17.27 | ecolitan | yes I have about a dozen guides open |
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| 14:19.42 | helo | Etch^ -> "before etch"? |
| 14:19.59 | helo | potato? |
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| 14:23.14 | roe | helo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Release_history |
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| 14:28.05 | abrotman | !release history |
| 14:28.05 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14). The next release will be Squeeze. And Wheezy after that. See also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html . |
| 14:28.11 | Caelum | how do I remove a hold on a package? |
| 14:28.14 | abrotman | thinks we're going to run out of room soon |
| 14:29.12 | abrotman | Caelum: install the package |
| 14:29.25 | abrotman | or use aptitude unhold |
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| 14:30.19 | Caelum | abrotman: cool thanks |
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| 14:34.54 | gigo | Accidentally deleted a 2.3 GB .MOV file from my camera memory card. Mounted the card as: /media/4BAE-5642. any software to do recovery? |
| 14:34.57 | helo | Bex, Ruzz, Benny, Link, Parge |
| 14:34.58 | brahman | Anybody know if the light blue Ncurses color change is controllable? I preferred it when it was dark. |
| 14:35.39 | helo | what terminal? |
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| 14:38.10 | pipeline | abrotman: toy story three includes a huge number of new characters. They're just all evil. |
| 14:38.22 | pipeline | abrotman: are you not ready for Debian 8.0 "Ken" ? |
| 14:38.26 | abrotman | pipeline: uhm .. i meant the factoid would run out of room |
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| 14:38.52 | i5noc | stupid fucking uburetards |
| 14:39.01 | i5noc | make me wanna get a new gun =[ |
| 14:39.09 | abrotman | i5noc: wrong channel, this is #debian |
| 14:39.23 | pipeline | brahman: the ncurses color is controlled by your terminal, not by the ncurses library |
| 14:39.30 | cydork | gigo, check out photorec |
| 14:39.35 | i5noc | abrotman, o no its the rite one. decent chan / users here.. |
| 14:39.46 | i5noc | not too elite such as #gentoo, quite nice lol |
| 14:39.49 | abrotman | i5noc: this channel is NOT the place for you to complain about that ... take it somewhere else |
| 14:39.57 | gigo | cydork, photorec can recover .MOV files? |
| 14:40.05 | abrotman | i5noc: Keep it on-topic |
| 14:40.07 | brahman | pipeline: will look at this. thanks for the pointer. |
| 14:40.20 | cydork | gigo, afaik it can |
| 14:40.20 | i5noc | dood from all the shit youve personally talked about ubu in this exact chan you can CERTAINLY chill man |
| 14:40.25 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 14:40.27 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@ip65-46-15-18.z15-46-65.customer.algx.net] by abrotman |
| 14:40.29 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 14:40.39 | abrotman | i5noc: you've been silenced for 10 minutes, please keep it on-topic |
| 14:40.39 | pipeline | thanks abrotman |
| 14:40.45 | abrotman | or,it's now permanent .. have a nice day |
| 14:40.46 | TheNetuno | help channel in spain |
| 14:40.51 | pipeline | TheNetuno: #debian-es |
| 14:41.02 | bzed | !es |
| 14:41.02 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 14:41.05 | TheNetuno | tank |
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| 14:42.27 | roe | the op has spoken |
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| 14:44.07 | brahman | pipeline: Many Thanks. Works like a charm. |
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| 14:44.20 | zanzus | hi everybody |
| 14:44.21 | gigo | cydork, is photorec available for debian? |
| 14:44.32 | gigo | aptitude search photorec returned nothing |
| 14:45.19 | ananthgs | @gigo: install testdisk |
| 14:45.21 | zanzus | I have a project that has a configure script and a makefile, do you know if is it easy to create a .deb package (it doesn't use automake etc) |
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| 14:46.07 | dkr | !tell zanzus about dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 14:47.01 | ananthgs | and issue photorec as root |
| 14:47.14 | zanzus | so it's simple with this dpkg-buildpackage? |
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| 14:48.06 | gigo | during aptitude install, I get this message; Tier: Safe actions, Remove packages (10000) ? |
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| 14:48.12 | gigo | what does it mean? is it going to remove 10000 pckages? |
| 14:48.21 | abrotman | gigo: put the whole thing in a pastebin |
| 14:50.00 | stew | gigo: no, it has an internal scoring system, and this one scored in a range which aptitude considers perfectly safe |
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| 14:50.16 | gigo | http://pastebin.com/CvJab652 |
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| 14:52.23 | abrotman | judd: versions libjpeg62 |
| 14:52.24 | judd | Package libjpeg62 on i386 -- etch: 6b-13; lenny: 6b-14; sid: 6b1-1; squeeze: 6b1-1 |
| 14:52.37 | abrotman | gigo: aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade && aptitude install testdisk |
| 14:52.48 | abrotman | gigo: it looks like your squeeze install is a bit behind |
| 14:53.23 | fi9o | , versions ekg |
| 14:53.23 | judd | Package ekg on i386 -- etch: 1:1.7~rc2-1etch2; etch-security: 1:1.7~rc2-1etch2; lenny: 1:1.8~rc1-1; sid: 1:1.8~rc1-1+b1; squeeze: 1:1.8~rc1-1+b1 |
| 14:53.26 | fi9o | , versions ekg2 |
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| 14:53.27 | judd | Package ekg2 on i386 -- experimental: 1:0.3.0~rc4~pre+20101127+0508-1 |
| 14:54.21 | fi9o | , versions kadu |
| 14:54.23 | judd | Package kadu on i386 -- etch-backports: 0.5.0-4~bpo40+1; lenny: 0.6.0.2.ds1-1; sid: 0.6.5.4.ds1-3; squeeze: 0.6.5.4.ds1-3; experimental: 0.6.6-beta11-2 |
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| 14:57.35 | TheNetuno | help driver = intel wifi link 5100 with PAN? |
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| 15:03.22 | babilen | TheNetuno: What do you mean? Do you want to configure a personal area network (commonly associated with bluetooth) with wifi? |
| 15:04.53 | TheNetuno | [babilen] Only I need wifi |
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| 15:06.20 | babilen | TheNetuno: You want to configure your wifi adaptor? Could you paste the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" in here please |
| 15:06.39 | babilen | But if you have an Intel5100 device the following might be helpful: |
| 15:06.44 | babilen | !iwl5100 |
| 15:06.44 | dpkg | iwlagn is the driver for the Intel Wireless WiFi Link (4965AGN, 5100AGN, 5300AGN, 5350AGN, 5150AGN, 1000BGN, 6200AGN, 6300AGN, 6250AGN) series of devices. Included in mainline Linux kernels since 2.6.27. Lenny users: ask me about <bdo kernel> to install a later kernel containing this driver. Firmware is required, ask me about <iwlagn firmware> to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn |
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| 15:07.47 | gigo | when i play .mov usng vlcplayer, it just plays sound. no video. how do I fix this? |
| 15:07.56 | babilen | TheNetuno: Read the referenced wiki page, make sure that you install the firmware (/msg dpkg iwlagn firmware) and decide how you want to configure your wireless. See http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse for your options |
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| 15:09.08 | TheNetuno | [babilen] Many thanks go to that |
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| 15:10.37 | babilen | TheNetuno: You are welcome -- Let me know if you run into problems. I would suggest to either use WICD or NetworkManager if you have a laptop and need to switch networks frequently. If this is a rather static setup you can just configure it in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:17.53 | manu_hack | hi, i want to use the split function, read the manual, i dont seem to find a way to output the file in another directory, because i dont have enough space for the output, any pointer? |
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| 15:20.13 | xingu | manu_hack: split somefile /path/to/other/dir/prefix. ? |
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| 15:22.08 | manu_hack | xingu: alright, so PREFIX actually can be a path |
| 15:22.12 | manu_hack | thx xingu |
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| 15:22.34 | manu_hack | xingu: tried and it works, thanks |
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| 15:23.04 | yurik | Hi there. I'm trying to install nginx from backports. aptitude -t backports install nginx doesn't work. |
| 15:23.20 | karlpinc | babilen: I hear networkmanager is buggy. How is wicd on lenny (and squeeze)? |
| 15:23.34 | yurik | what's the correct way of forcing backport priority? |
| 15:24.11 | karlpinc | yurik: -t lenny-backports (iirc) |
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| 15:24.37 | babilen | karlpinc: wicd is working great on lenny (from backports) and on Squeeze. The only thing it does not support are 3G modems |
| 15:25.13 | karlpinc | yurik: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 15:25.48 | babilen | yurik: "-t lenny-backports" iirc |
| 15:25.56 | karlpinc | babilen: I'll have to give it a whirl. I've never actually got wireless to work (and don't know if it's a hardware problem) although I've not tried too hard. |
| 15:26.14 | babilen | karlpinc: If you want to try harder let me know :) |
| 15:27.25 | abrotman | karlpinc: n-m can be buggy .. i have random hangs/disconnects .. i'm really not sure if it's n-m or the iwlwifi/agn driver |
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| 15:30.30 | yurik | well indeed it's named lenny-backports |
| 15:30.32 | karlpinc | I've always tried using the interfaces file, and diagnostics from the command line. |
| 15:30.42 | yurik | strange that someone right in this channel suggested -t backports some day |
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| 15:31.51 | yurik | thanks, it helped |
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| 15:40.43 | dkr | I seem to be blind. can't find where in icedove you add a new address to send mail from(as opposed to a new account). it was called "profile" or something like that? (have to reply to a sender address verification request for an account alias rather than my own) |
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| 15:42.08 | fbs | dkr: edit-> accountsettings? |
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| 15:43.00 | dkr | ah, the term is "identities" according to icedove kb, but still can't find the option in account settings |
| 15:43.24 | dkr | ah, there it is. at top level. me brain dead. thanks |
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| 15:45.12 | Psi-Jack | Okay, how, on Debian's /etc/network/interfaces do I set a loopback VIP IP? |
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| 15:47.04 | fbs | lets say i want to encrypt my /home t/mp and swap. Is it smart to make a lvm with 1 encrypted partition in it (and the rest like /root) and create another lvm in the encrypted partition |
| 15:47.23 | fbs | or just make 2 different partitions, and give them a seperate lvm |
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| 15:47.42 | khem_ | is there a debian package for libx264? |
| 15:49.07 | fbs | khem_: look for debian multimedia |
| 15:49.13 | fbs | on google |
| 15:49.30 | roe | can anyone recommend a good graphical ldap browser that is packaged? |
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| 15:50.04 | pipeline | fbs: there's really no reason not to encrypt all of your lvm |
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| 15:51.19 | pipeline | roe: unfortunately the best graphical ldap browsers I know of are not packaged .. both are java, so all you need is openjdk or sun-java6* |
| 15:51.38 | pipeline | roe: I can recommend jxplorer and apache studio |
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| 15:51.43 | roe | pipeline, yea, the apache studio seems lke a good one |
| 15:52.05 | pipeline | I am very font of apache studio |
| 15:52.10 | fbs | pipeline: imo its easier to make 1 partition with a lvm than making 3 seperate encrypted partitions |
| 15:52.31 | pipeline | apacheds seems really promising, too, but I haven't had an opportunity to put it into production :( |
| 15:52.45 | pipeline | fbs: that's what I mean -- have a /boot, then put root, swap, home etc all on a single encrypted lvm |
| 15:52.58 | pipeline | fbs: the debian installer will even do it for you, it's one of the preset options |
| 15:53.04 | fbs | pipeline: but i dont want to encrypt /root |
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| 15:53.07 | pipeline | fbs: why not ? |
| 15:53.13 | fbs | why would i? |
| 15:53.26 | fbs | i dont think i need it |
| 15:53.42 | pipeline | fbs: protect sensitive data -- /etc/shadow, log files -- prevent tampering |
| 15:53.50 | fbs | hmm |
| 15:53.56 | pipeline | fbs: it costs you basically nothing to do, and the potential upsides are considerable |
| 15:54.06 | pipeline | fbs: it's also way simpler to encrypt *everything* than to encrypt some things but not others :P |
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| 15:54.27 | pipeline | fbs: for example, you *definitely* want to encrypt swap to prevent people reading sensitive data from memory |
| 15:54.49 | pipeline | fbs: so at the very least you're gonna be doing swap, home, and tmp on encrypted lvm... why not just go whole hog and get some additional protection at almost no penalty |
| 15:55.20 | fbs | yeah maybe |
| 15:55.21 | pipeline | fbs: the thing to keep in mind about encryption is that the latency penalty is to total latency, not seek latency... your overall disk i/o will be unchanged, just slightly delayed |
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| 15:55.35 | pipeline | fbs: you'll have the same number of iops, they'll just be a tiny bit delayed :P |
| 15:55.43 | fbs | true, i was just wondering if its possible to make a lvm in a lvm |
| 15:55.54 | pipeline | fbs: I've never tried it, and I wouldn't recommend it :P |
| 15:56.00 | fbs | :P |
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| 15:57.48 | TimmyT | I was compiling Linux-2.6.32 on debian5. After an hour I have gotten this error: http://pastebin.com/Z0cgqg2Z. What is the problem? |
| 15:58.09 | pipeline | a major reason that I like having encrypted lvm is that it means my coworkers can't boot knoppix, install a "toor" uid0 account, and prank me >:( |
| 15:58.22 | pipeline | encrypted filesystems don't just prevent read access, they prevent tampering |
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| 16:01.52 | stew | its certainly possible to do an lvm in an lvm. i do it for my virtual machines. each machine gets a lv, which it then uses as a pv and creates lvs for swap/root/etc |
| 16:01.54 | tharkun | Gentlemen good evening, I've been managing several servers with cronjobs and custom scripts, Is there a more automated way of doing that? Like some program to administer security updates and upgrades on an automated basis? |
| 16:02.32 | petemc | stew: doesnt that have an effect on performance? |
| 16:02.56 | dutchfish | tharkun: http://fai-project.org/ |
| 16:02.57 | stew | tharkun: have you looked at puppet? its a commitment, but can be worth it, especially if you have lots of similarly configured machine |
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| 16:03.24 | stew | petemc: i don't understand the overhead of lvm to be much at all |
| 16:03.55 | petemc | what advantages does double lvm offer you? |
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| 16:04.34 | catsup | the advantage is being able to manage partitions in the vm |
| 16:05.17 | petemc | you can do that without the second layer of lvm |
| 16:05.17 | tharkun | dutchfish: sounds interesting |
| 16:05.42 | catsup | you mean give the VMs real partitions? |
| 16:05.58 | catsup | there's no need for real partitions anymore |
| 16:06.03 | petemc | lvs, which the vm sees as partitions |
| 16:06.06 | dutchfish | tharkun: if puppet or fai is intresting depends on numbers, but it very worth to dig in by reading |
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| 16:06.47 | catsup | petemc: yeah, then you can't, within the vm, create/change lvs |
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| 16:07.17 | tharkun | stew: problem is configuratios of this bunch is very disimilar |
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| 16:07.51 | tharkun | dutchfish: you are certainly right, The bigger the network the deeper the commit and the greater the benefits |
| 16:08.06 | dutchfish | tharkun: bingo |
| 16:08.08 | fbs | pipeline: currently i dont have /root encrypted |
| 16:08.19 | fbs | maybe next time |
| 16:08.55 | fbs | al the real important stuff is in /home or /data, and those are encrypted |
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| 16:09.02 | dutchfish | tharkun: next best thing is virtual cloning and debian-automated-installation |
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| 16:10.01 | dutchfish | tharkun: for that i use pxe boot envirenments and auto-configure scripting |
| 16:10.35 | dutchfish | tharkun: that scales well for mid-size install bases |
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| 16:11.32 | dutchfish | tharkun: but carefull planning is the ost important part |
| 16:11.38 | dutchfish | s/ost/most |
| 16:13.29 | pipeline | petemc, stew : there's practically no overhead to lvm |
| 16:14.19 | tharkun | At this moment installation of more workstations is not the problem. Since the rate of those is fairly low. But maintaining them is becoming a burden. Virtualization is out of the question since most of the workstations have not the most recent hardware ;P |
| 16:14.20 | frikinz | TimmyT: http://wiki.debian.org/Lguest "lguest was tested on DebianSqueeze, using kernel 2.6.30-2-686. Other releases and kernel seems to have problems". So you should remove the CONFIG option to build a test hypervisor |
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| 16:18.48 | karlpinc | tharkun: You can also use apt-cron or http://pastebin.com/H3MdQfut if you've only a few boxes and only want security updates. |
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| 16:19.46 | karlpinc | s/apt-cron/cron-apt/ |
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| 16:21.30 | tharkun | karlpinc: thx i'll take a look at your url and also to cron-apt |
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| 16:22.49 | tharkun | just realized he re-invented the wheel once more |
| 16:23.00 | fbs | when creating a ext3/4 partition, is the j needed or optional |
| 16:23.24 | fbs | so, mkfs.ext4 /dev/bla, does the -j have a influence? |
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| 16:24.01 | karlpinc | fbs: It does not need to be on a separate device. If you don't have a -j you get ext2. |
| 16:24.37 | karlpinc | fbs: (But that's with ext3 and mke2fs) Dunno about the wrappers like mkfs.ext3 etc.) |
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| 16:24.45 | fbs | ah ok |
| 16:24.46 | helo | wonders why the default for mkfs.ext4 is to behave like mkfs.ext2 |
| 16:24.50 | helo | oh, heh |
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| 16:25.01 | karlpinc | fbs: rtfm |
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| 16:26.34 | fbs | i did, but i couldnt fine a clear answer, maybe i looked over it |
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| 16:28.29 | gigo | I get this line in /var/log/messages Dec 3 21:53:37 nifty kernel: [ 7243.720156] tifm_core: MMC/SD card detected in socket 0:1 |
| 16:28.33 | gigo | but he card is not mounted |
| 16:28.35 | gigo | why? |
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| 16:30.55 | atula | I use deborphan... is that the same usage of apt-get autoremove? |
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| 16:32.56 | cahoot | gigo: it's not even in the cardreader? |
| 16:33.52 | gigo | cahoot, ii entered the card in the card reader |
| 16:34.01 | gigo | and then i got that line in /var/log/messages |
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| 16:34.26 | cahoot | and it's detected - so what's the problem - mount isn't the same thing |
| 16:34.47 | Iridos | atula, no, it predates autoremove by far |
| 16:35.18 | gigo | cahoot, shouldn't it mount automatically using the gnome-volume-manager? |
| 16:35.46 | atula | Iridos: meaning? which one should I use :P |
| 16:35.49 | gigo | also i do not see the corresponding device in /dev/ directory so that i can mount it manually? |
| 16:37.37 | Iridos | atula, use what you like... autoremove removes packages that were tagged as installed automatically, i.e. not on request... deborphan tries to fine libraries that are not used ... roughly by looking for lib* packages that nothing depends on |
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| 16:38.28 | Iridos | !tell atula -about autoremove |
| 16:38.29 | atula | cool. thank you |
| 16:38.34 | Iridos | !tell atula -about deborphan |
| 16:39.36 | stew | atula: what is your goal? |
| 16:39.38 | Iridos | atula, often all the programs of gnome are "autoinstalled" by the metapackage "gnome" - metapackages contain no files itself but just have dependencies on packages that are related... |
| 16:40.15 | atula | I just want to be neat and clean :) |
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| 16:40.25 | atula | just a server here. no UI... |
| 16:40.35 | atula | I am.. OCD |
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| 16:46.52 | WormFood | does anyone know the "right" place to add additional configuration directives to exim (specifically I need to add an "interface" line) |
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| 16:51.40 | goose | I'm following the Linode guide to setup a VPN on my Linode (guide at http://library.linode.com/networking/openvpn/debian-5-lenny#installing_openvpn ) but I can't get past the ./build-ca, it just keeps on telling me to edit the vars file, which I did |
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| 16:59.53 | mwarning | hi, where can I get a wine >= 1.2 package for debian? I have compiled wine myself, but can't compile wine with openal for sound (I think it's needed). |
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| 17:04.44 | bloom | Does anyone know how to manually specify an application path for k3b to use it? I can't get k3b to find normalize-audio even though just apt-got it |
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| 17:06.41 | subsume | so I'm using tmpfs to store a sqlite database and I'm noticing a lot of memory according to top but the sqlite db is only 4 megs |
| 17:06.58 | subsume | err i'm noticing a lot of memory /is gone/ |
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| 17:08.31 | EduardeCalibal | Hello. I need configure each monitor to one single workspace, this is possible? I have gnome here. |
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| 17:09.39 | cahoot | EduardeCalibal: no help from system->prefs->monitors? |
| 17:10.14 | EduardeCalibal | The second is a tv screen... |
| 17:10.33 | EduardeCalibal | Don't is detected. |
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| 17:10.57 | themill | EduardeCalibal: I've long though that would be a great way of working with multiple desktops across multiple monitors but I don't know of any window manager that does that. |
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| 17:11.22 | EduardeCalibal | Ok. Thanks. |
| 17:11.36 | cahoot | no use defining a large virtual screen? |
| 17:11.47 | bloom | Does anyone know how to manually specify an application path for k3b to use it? I can't get k3b to find normalize-audio even though just apt-got it |
| 17:12.21 | EduardeCalibal | I need 2 workplaces... I already have a large screen at this point... But the mouse cross to the other side and I need some like "send to the another screen" |
| 17:12.31 | EduardeCalibal | Is a good function. |
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| 17:12.42 | cahoot | EduardeCalibal: yes sorry - totally missed your point |
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| 17:14.00 | EduardeCalibal | bloom, I think you found it in configuration>programs |
| 17:14.18 | EduardeCalibal | configuration>config k3b>programs |
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| 17:21.19 | Jon2 | Hey |
| 17:21.37 | Jon2 | I have Debain lenny running on a vserver, how would I add a partition for a swap file without reinstalling my os? |
| 17:21.46 | bloom | EduardeCalibal: all I can make it do is automatically search the path to find the program, and it's not finding it |
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| 17:22.57 | EduardeCalibal | And is installed? |
| 17:23.10 | sec_goat | I apparently have way to many version of java installed, how can i start to take care of this? |
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| 17:24.07 | abrotman | Jon2: just create a swapfile |
| 17:24.10 | helo | is loop mounting an appropriately sized file as swap a bad idea? |
| 17:24.17 | abrotman | Jon2: it doesn't have to be a partition |
| 17:24.40 | Jon2 | How do I do that? |
| 17:24.45 | bloom | EduardeCalibal: yes |
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| 17:25.32 | helo | Jon2: google? |
| 17:26.09 | EduardeCalibal | bloom, now I see, here I have a not found to... |
| 17:26.10 | EduardeCalibal | :D |
| 17:26.28 | Jon2 | helo: I was looking for a command, not google. =P |
| 17:26.35 | goose | god I hate to ask this question and sound like a kiddiot, but.. I've got my OpenVPN setup, now how do I connect to it? (Squeeze) |
| 17:27.42 | dutchfish | Jon2: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/550 |
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| 17:27.54 | haxi__ | hi here :) |
| 17:28.01 | EduardeCalibal | Jon2, I use gparted to make this type of alteration... But don't is a risk free operation. |
| 17:28.53 | jhutchins_lt | goose: network manager can do vpn. |
| 17:28.59 | abrotman | he doesn't need a partition to create a swapfile |
| 17:29.03 | goose | jhutchins_lt: it's grayed out :( |
| 17:29.15 | helo | Jon2: when you don't know what you need to do, google is hard to get an answer out of. but once you know do know, it's pretty easy to find good info with "using swapfile debian" |
| 17:29.37 | abrotman | Jon2: man mkswap .. it has some examples |
| 17:30.13 | haxi__ | I've a little problem, I can't move my new computer (desktop and big screen), so I burnt a dvd image of debian, but I can't boot it :(. md5 is OK, in the bios cd/dvd is before hard disk, and an old netinstall cd boot great. When I boot it just loads windows 7 (oh shit.) any idea? |
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| 17:30.50 | haxi__ | and I burnt the .iso twice (in case that the first dvd was fucked up) |
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| 17:31.34 | stew | haxi__: can you boot it on another machine? |
| 17:31.37 | jhutchins_lt | haxi__: There are rumors that w7 does strange things with booting. I had to wipe it off the three partitions on my system in order to get the installer to run. |
| 17:31.43 | jhutchins_lt | s/run/boot |
| 17:32.22 | haxi__ | stew: don't know why I didn't think of this b4. Let me try. |
| 17:32.46 | dutchfish | jhutchins_lt: efi/boot is not working well on dvd testing install ... fyi |
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| 17:33.10 | raz | could it be that the logrotate that ships with lenny is extremely buggy? |
| 17:33.27 | jhutchins_lt | dutchfish: Wasn't efi, just couldn't get w7 to let go. |
| 17:33.35 | dutchfish | jhutchins_lt: ok |
| 17:33.44 | raz | is slowly getting sick of cleaning up after servers where the logrotation suddenly stops working for no obvious reason |
| 17:35.06 | jhutchins_lt | haxi__: Is this an OEM install of w7? |
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| 17:35.48 | abrotman | haxi__: which ISO did you burn? what kind of computer is it? |
| 17:35.50 | stew | raz: not likely, but check the bts |
| 17:35.55 | jelly | raz: how does it stop / what do you do to make it continue? |
| 17:36.00 | stew | raz: what is an example of a logfile that didn't rotate? |
| 17:36.04 | sec_goat | I am trying to find and update drivers for a Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller. However after searching I find I should install xserver-xorg-video-intel. . . but that just tells me everything is up to date and nothing to be installed, any ideas on where to start? |
| 17:36.20 | raz | stew: i've had this happening on multiple servers now, making a pastie, perhaps i'm just being dense |
| 17:36.25 | abrotman | sec_goat: start by telling us what problem you're trying to fix ... |
| 17:36.35 | jhutchins_lt | sec_goat: Which release? |
| 17:36.43 | jhutchins_lt | sec_goat: Why do you think you need a newer version? |
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| 17:37.28 | sec_goat | jhutchins: Because i am trying to run minecraft an dit is giving me video card errors. . . usually mean si need to update |
| 17:38.27 | sec_goat | here is a link of said error |
| 17:38.28 | sec_goat | http://pastebin.com/AsqaeFu7 |
| 17:38.38 | haxi__ | ok guys, the dvd doesn't boot on another computer (vista) |
| 17:38.55 | jhutchins_lt | haxi__: Perhaps a netboot image would be easier to juggle. |
| 17:38.56 | haxi__ | My new computer is a hp elite 430 fr |
| 17:39.11 | haxi__ | jhutchins_lt: you mean the netinstall image? |
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| 17:39.55 | Chris___ | I've got my VPN put into my network manager, but it shows it as "Last used: Never" -- how to do I get Debian to traffic all my internet through my VPN? |
| 17:39.56 | raz | stew: http://pastie.org/1345050 |
| 17:40.31 | haxi__ | the fact is that it's difficult to move my new pc to my router (my router is 2 floor under me), and my only display is 24" ... |
| 17:40.33 | raz | stew: i can not convince logrotate to move the 'syslog'-file (same for messages and others btw). |
| 17:40.38 | Chris___ | oh, wait, figured it out |
| 17:40.44 | Chris___ | thanks! |
| 17:41.05 | haxi__ | it's a shame that netinstall doesn't work with wlan, anyway, I don't see any other solution... :( |
| 17:41.51 | jhutchins_lt | haxi__: Well, it _can_ work. |
| 17:41.53 | haxi__ | that will remember me some old time when I mess with wifi on my debian lol. |
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| 17:42.13 | haxi__ | well my netinstall cd is booting great.. |
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| 17:42.25 | haxi__ | don't know how old it is, but it is old. lol |
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| 17:43.13 | haxi__ | abrotman: hp elite 4 |
| 17:43.34 | haxi__ | 430* and debian-507-i386-DVD1 |
| 17:43.45 | haxi__ | 430* and debian-507-i386-DVD1 |
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| 17:45.39 | nsadmin | when you boot the netinst, does it say on the openeing screen what version it is? |
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| 17:46.25 | jhutchins_lt | nsadmin: Probably 507 |
| 17:46.26 | robert45 | hey guys when running ./memtest Iam getting a "Segmentation fault", any ideas how can I troubleshoot this? |
| 17:46.27 | haxi__ | it's lenny, but when it was called "testing" :) |
| 17:46.34 | robert45 | Im running debian 5.0 amd64 |
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| 17:46.48 | jhutchins_lt | nsadmin: oh, you mean the netinst. |
| 17:46.55 | nsadmin | yes |
| 17:47.04 | nsadmin | the one that boots :) |
| 17:47.09 | jhutchins_lt | robert45: Remove the bad ram. |
| 17:47.19 | haxi__ | :-° |
| 17:47.39 | robert45 | jhutchins how can I be sure its the ram? Im unable to run memtest |
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| 17:48.03 | jhutchins_lt | haxi__: We don't seem to be getting much of a dialog here. Hard to help if you don't respond. You could try the regular installation CD, get a basic system up and running with that. |
| 17:48.51 | nsadmin | haxi__, do you have supported network hardware? |
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| 17:49.12 | nsadmin | you could try going thru the netinst and see if your net is detected |
| 17:49.18 | haxi__ | nsadmin: what do you mean? |
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| 17:50.13 | haxi__ | jhutchins_lt: I respond. Is it possible to burn and boot on a minimal install, configure wifi things and then install all things needed? |
| 17:50.14 | nsadmin | the kernel supports hardware... therefore there are hardware drivers in the kernel or in kernel modules... |
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| 17:50.41 | jhutchins_lt | haxi__: Yes, that's what I suggested. |
| 17:50.42 | nsadmin | does your machine have a wired ethernet port? |
| 17:50.52 | haxi__ | nsadmin: well on the debian official d/l page it clearly says "netinstall do not work with wlan networks" |
| 17:51.00 | nsadmin | if so you could also try that |
| 17:51.33 | haxi__ | nsadmin: yes it does, but my router is two floor under my comp. hard to get an ethernet cable of 30meters :-° |
| 17:51.54 | nsadmin | move the computer down there temporarily |
| 17:51.55 | goose | I have all my traffic going through my VPN, but I want to exempt Pandora from it, or bad things will happen to my server's bandwidth allotment :S How can I do this? |
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| 17:52.21 | goose | (I have a Pandora desktop application, I'm not using the website, by the way) |
| 17:52.48 | nsadmin | what would be wrong with doing either? |
| 17:53.00 | haxi__ | nsadmin: yeah, but... I didn't want to move my 24" screen thru the stairs and such.. but looks like I don't have any other choise. Or I'll try with minimal CD |
| 17:53.56 | nsadmin | maybe you have a smaller screen or can borrow a screen that's already downstairs? |
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| 17:54.16 | wildc4rd | good evening all |
| 17:54.48 | robert45 | jhutchins any idea? |
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| 17:55.12 | jhutchins_lt | haxi__: Is this a CRT or something? |
| 17:55.26 | haxi__ | obviously not... I bought my mainframe before my screen, and I wait during 1 week to be able to use my computer (when I received my monitor :-°) |
| 17:55.32 | jhutchins_lt | haxi__: We've offered several solutions. Do something. |
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| 17:55.43 | haxi__ | jhutchins_lt: no, 24" TFT ^^ |
| 17:56.03 | haxi__ | jhutchins_lt: just don't have the time now I got to go, thanks you for the help dude. |
| 17:56.26 | haxi__ | nsadmin: thank you too. Have a good evening guys! |
| 17:56.38 | jhutchins_lt | robert45: Either you have a bad memtest image or you have bad RAM. Why are you running memtest in the first place? |
| 17:57.22 | robert45 | jhutchins_lt my server crashes (I only get a blank screen when it does) and I dont find the reason, there is no load when this happen. Im trying to run memtest to see if its bad RAM related |
| 17:57.47 | robert45 | I downloaded the memtest from the official site, compiled but when I run it I get the Seg fault message |
| 17:57.56 | jhutchins_lt | robert45: You can see if the same memtest image works on another PC, but I'd say it's time to open up the box. |
| 17:58.10 | jhutchins_lt | robert45: Get a memtest CD image. |
| 17:58.34 | Kuifje111 | I am trying to use an SSH key, but I can't get it to work. I have an ssh key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 and "RSAAuthentication yes PubkeyAuthentication yes" in my config file, but whenever I login without private key, it works. |
| 17:58.40 | jhutchins_lt | robert45: Are you running the extended memory test in the BIOS? |
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| 17:59.08 | robert45 | jhutchins_lt the thing is the server is on a datacenter. I was thinking to install the memtest with apt-get and get the tech guys at the colo to reboot it and run it from there |
| 17:59.25 | robert45 | jhutchins_lt hm, I dont think so. Could that cause any issues? |
| 17:59.43 | jhutchins_lt | robert45: Not cause, possibly reveal. |
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| 18:00.32 | robert45 | ok, I will have the tech guys to check this out and run memtest, any other advice? |
| 18:00.54 | pipeline | petemc, stew : here's the key thing about lvm and other manipulations: disk is three orders of magnitude slower than memory. You can do the most obscenely expensive, overcomplicated things you want in memory -- when it comes time to actually put the bits on a disk, all of that redirection's cost is a squirrel's sneeze in a blizzard |
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| 18:02.17 | jhutchins_lt | robert45: Just that sometimes if you unplug everything and plug it back in it'll fix things. |
| 18:02.52 | robert45 | ok I see, I guess I will ask them to unplug and plug RAM cards |
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| 18:04.46 | diago | lol |
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| 18:08.22 | robert45 | thanks jhutchins_lt I will come back later if I find something else |
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| 18:13.20 | goose | is there any way I could use iptables on my local PC to tell it to NOT use my VPN for Pandora's app or port? |
| 18:13.38 | pipeline | goose: fix your vpn |
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| 18:13.50 | goose | ...my VPN works fine |
| 18:13.59 | goose | I just don't want to push Pandora's bandwidth through my server |
| 18:14.00 | pipeline | goose: clearly it doesn't, because you want a split tunnel but that's not what you have |
| 18:14.24 | pipeline | goose: you could try to cheat it by addding a static route for pandora's destination net -- man route |
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| 18:17.23 | whkkl | Hello, is there a tutorial available describing a secure webhosting setup? |
| 18:17.38 | whkkl | like with different php user for every customer |
| 18:18.02 | goose | pipeline: aren't I looking more at iptables? |
| 18:18.11 | whkkl | i know how to setup a chroot, but updating the binaries inside the chroot with apt-get is difficult |
| 18:18.12 | pipeline | whkkl: that's not the kind of environment for which a tutorial is appropriate |
| 18:18.22 | pipeline | whkkl: if you require that kind of security, you should know what you're doing. Hire an expert. |
| 18:18.25 | chrisb | on a dual processor system, will debian default to starting up two process for each service? |
| 18:18.26 | whkkl | pipeline, tutorial is perhaps the wrong word |
| 18:18.26 | pipeline | goose: No. |
| 18:18.41 | whkkl | pipeline, i just want to know how it's usually done |
| 18:18.43 | pipeline | chrisb: No. |
| 18:18.56 | chrisb | i have doubles of smbd, nmdb, apache winbindd |
| 18:18.58 | pipeline | whkkl: for php hosting specifically, commercial off-the-shelf products |
| 18:19.22 | pipeline | chrisb: most UNIX daemons fork to handle concurrency |
| 18:19.35 | pipeline | chrisb: so if you have the daemon running, and you have one client, you probably have two smbd processes |
| 18:20.02 | chrisb | pipeline: so the one servicing the client and one ready for the next client |
| 18:20.07 | pipeline | chrisb: however... I don't think winbindd specificially works that way... try stopping the samba service and see if some of those processes stick around.. you may have zombies, or accidentally started the srevice twice (broken lock ?) |
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| 18:20.26 | pipeline | chrisb: yeah smbd is definitely a forking server that works that way. I don't think winbind is... I'm not 100% sure. |
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| 18:21.50 | chrisb | pipeline: yesterday when i did a console login on the serial port, i had one login session, and one login session of 0 time length, again, it looked like two gettys answering on the same port |
| 18:22.02 | chrisb | pipeline: so now i'm looking at everything |
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| 18:22.09 | chrisb | pipeline: for strangeness |
| 18:22.49 | chrisb | pipeline: like was my root password echoed to another getty session that stopped right after the other one succeeded |
| 18:23.07 | chrisb | pipeline: same with the smbd stuff, there are passwords passed |
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| 18:23.33 | chrisb | goes to stop samba |
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| 18:25.07 | chrisb | also, my ssh-agent processes persist even after the terminals exit |
| 18:25.10 | chrisb | ugh |
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| 18:25.16 | qq- | qq |
| 18:25.24 | qq- | \ops |
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| 18:27.06 | chrisb | pipeline: all of the smbd and nmbd processes shutdown after /etc/init.d/samba stop |
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| 18:27.25 | pipeline | chrisb: then you don't have a problem |
| 18:27.28 | chrisb | pipeline: but the winbindd processes continue |
| 18:27.29 | pipeline | chrisb: and I was just wrong |
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| 18:27.37 | pipeline | chrisb: winbindd is a separate init script |
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| 18:28.18 | chrisb | pipeline: what do you think about the strange ttyS0 behavior? my boot kernel redirects console to ttyS0, too |
| 18:28.25 | chrisb | pipeline: could that double things up? |
| 18:28.27 | lxsameer | does any one know about debchroot ? which package contains it |
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| 18:28.57 | themill | lxsameer: do you mean debootstrap? |
| 18:29.07 | pipeline | chrisb: console's not special -- getty is getty is getty |
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| 18:29.31 | lxsameer | themill: no , i see this (debchroot in a tutorial) but its not in repo |
| 18:30.06 | themill | lxsameer: never heard of it |
| 18:30.18 | lxsameer | themill: thanks man |
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| 18:31.32 | chrisb | pipeline: thanks |
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| 18:31.38 | anoob | hi, any idea about my sound problems? (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57889) |
| 18:32.21 | jhutchins_lt | themill: It's a script to make it easy to run debian apps in mameo. |
| 18:32.35 | themill | lovely |
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| 18:33.09 | chrisb | chrisb ttyS0 Thu Dec 2 23:05 - 01:13 (02:08) |
| 18:33.09 | chrisb | chrisb ttyS0 Thu Dec 2 23:05 - 23:05 (00:00) |
| 18:33.09 | chrisb | root ttyS0 Thu Dec 2 22:49 - 23:05 (00:16) |
| 18:33.09 | chrisb | root ttyS0 Thu Dec 2 22:49 - 22:49 (00:00) |
| 18:33.09 | chrisb | root ttyS0 Thu Dec 2 22:47 - 22:49 (00:01) |
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| 18:33.14 | jhutchins_lt | anoob: Get rid of pulseaudio. |
| 18:33.34 | anoob | i don't have pulseaudio |
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| 18:34.02 | chrisb | sorry, my bad |
| 18:34.13 | jhutchins_lt | anoob: Are you sure? |
| 18:34.26 | anoob | nether esd, or something else jhutchins_lt |
| 18:34.31 | anoob | yes |
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| 18:39.09 | jelly-hme | !list alsa users |
| 18:39.09 | dpkg | To see what processes are using (and perhaps blocking) your sound device: ps `lsof +D /dev -F rt | awk '/^p/ {pid=$1} /^t/ {type=$1} /^r0x74..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid} /^r0xe..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid}' | cut -c 2- | uniq`. Alternatively, fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer |
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| 18:40.08 | anoob | jelly-hme, what you mean with "alsa users" ? |
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| 18:40.35 | nsadmin | programs in your machine that connect to alsa |
| 18:40.50 | jelly-hme | anoob: is that a physical machine or a virtual one? |
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| 18:42.41 | jelly-hme | physical but quite old, I suspect |
| 18:43.39 | project2501a | http://www.flickr.com/photos/changinglivesmartialarts/5225569416/ |
| 18:43.40 | project2501a | shit |
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| 18:46.44 | project2501a | i just hit a kernel bug |
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| 18:46.51 | project2501a | i tried to add a contact in flickr |
| 18:47.03 | stew | did you hit it with a karate punch? |
| 18:47.06 | project2501a | and the laptop shut down |
| 18:47.14 | project2501a | stew: lol |
| 18:47.30 | stew | did it shut off sudenly? or start to do a normal shutdown? |
| 18:47.53 | project2501a | it shut off suddenly |
| 18:48.11 | jhutchins_lt | project2501a: More likely hardware than kernel. |
| 18:48.41 | stew | project2501a: overheating? |
| 18:48.53 | project2501a | no, it's callm as anything |
| 18:49.06 | project2501a | erh, cool, even |
| 18:49.26 | anoob | jelly-hme it's a physical one... |
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| 18:50.31 | project2501a | jhutchins_lt: memory? |
| 18:50.33 | jelly-hme | anoob: did it work better with debian 5.0? |
| 18:50.52 | anoob | i'm running debian squeeze... i don't remember that... |
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| 19:05.12 | freeone3000 | I'm attempting to install the intel compiler on a 64-bit system. To do so, it says that I need a "32-bit compatability" version of libstdc++6. I assume this means I simply have to have a 32-bit version of libstdc++, but how would I get it on a 64-bit platform? |
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| 19:09.00 | bluj | freeone3000: try 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs' |
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| 19:11.44 | freeone3000 | bluj: Interesting, thanks. |
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| 19:18.30 | ravenz | hello |
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| 19:19.06 | bintut | waves |
| 19:19.10 | bintut | any munin users here? |
| 19:19.31 | abrotman | ask a better question ? |
| 19:19.32 | bintut | i'm lost here. i want to stack the apache accesses |
| 19:19.34 | Rienzilla | raises hand |
| 19:19.53 | ravenz | is possible to make post requests with links passing the post variables from command line? |
| 19:19.59 | Rienzilla | edit the plugin to do so |
| 19:20.00 | bintut | i'm reading munin's documentation but i still don't get it |
| 19:20.01 | bintut | :( |
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| 19:20.34 | Rienzilla | you set the draw-attribute of one datasource to either line{123} or area |
| 19:20.42 | Rienzilla | and the draw-attributes of the next to stack |
| 19:20.43 | bintut | how am i going to stack the 2 web servers based on the apache_accesses plugin |
| 19:21.02 | Rienzilla | you want to stack the accesses of two different servers? |
| 19:21.07 | bintut | Rienzilla: yes. |
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| 19:21.25 | Rienzilla | that's not that easy |
| 19:21.27 | Rienzilla | well |
| 19:21.40 | Rienzilla | it's not that hard either, but you have to have one plugin which returns data for both servers |
| 19:22.05 | bintut | i'm lost as i don't exactly understand the syntax and the fields to write in the munin.conf |
| 19:22.22 | Rienzilla | writing something in munin.conf is not enough |
| 19:22.43 | Rienzilla | munin will make two graphs if you have two plugins on two different hosts |
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| 19:23.00 | bintut | basically my objective is, i want to have a line graph - in a single graph - for all the web servers |
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| 19:23.27 | Rienzilla | then you have to make a plugin which will return the values for all the webservers |
| 19:23.35 | bintut | because currently, each server has its own bunch of graphs |
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| 19:25.44 | bintut | i want to have similar to this => http://is.gd/i9l2T |
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| 19:26.30 | brainbug | Hello, i've got a question, i'm running a debian in a domain. Hower today i brought home this notebook, now i'm trying to connect to my (home) wireless, i've added /etc/resolv.conf search localhost and nameserver <nameserver> of my home... is there anything more to it?? because i won't get an ip, hower i acquire hwaddr for AP and my wireless card.. |
| 19:26.31 | bintut | Rienzilla: the examples on the web looks easy but when i'm going to write it for the apache_processes, i'm lost |
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| 19:27.26 | Rienzilla | the examples on the web do not do what you want to do |
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| 19:28.45 | FilipeMaia | Is there any environment variable I can set so that configure scripts know that they should also look there for libraries? |
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| 19:31.36 | digatech | Hey guys |
| 19:31.49 | superstraw | I'm using: egrep -B1 '300|600|7600' file.txt to find a phone number that may or may not have spaces or dashes between the numbers, can egrep return lines that only contain all three sets of numbers instead of lines with any of those numbers? |
| 19:31.53 | digatech | So, I type: sudo crontab -e |
| 19:32.12 | digatech | * * * * * /usr/local/bin/indexer -c /usr/local/etc/sphinx.conf --rotate --all >> /home/olympus/rotate2.log |
| 19:32.16 | digatech | I have that in there |
| 19:32.20 | digatech | If i run: * * * * * /usr/local/bin/indexer -c /usr/local/etc/sphinx.conf --rotate --all >> /home/olympus/rotate2.log |
| 19:32.23 | digatech | er |
| 19:32.25 | stew | superstraw: would they always be in that order? 300 then 600 then 7600? |
| 19:32.32 | digatech | if I run sudo /usr/local/bin/indexer -c /usr/local/etc/sphinx.conf --rotate --all >> /home/olympus/rotate2.log |
| 19:32.36 | digatech | it works flawlessly |
| 19:32.42 | digatech | but it's not auto running from crontab. |
| 19:32.44 | digatech | Any ideas? |
| 19:32.56 | superstraw | stew well the area code might not be used, but yes that order |
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| 19:33.08 | stew | superstraw: grep -B1 '300.*600.*7600' |
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| 19:33.40 | superstraw | ah the wildcards are supported in egrep? doh! |
| 19:33.48 | digatech | * * * * * == every minute right? |
| 19:34.09 | digatech | *sigh* |
| 19:34.14 | jhutchins_lt | digatech: sudo abuse. |
| 19:34.34 | stew | superstraw: . is a wildcard, it matches any character, supported by both grep and egrep. the * after it means that there will be zero or more occurances |
| 19:34.34 | digatech | what you mean? |
| 19:34.41 | digatech | I have to run it as root |
| 19:34.53 | superstraw | stew thank you i will do that |
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| 19:35.34 | jhutchins_lt | digatech: Figure out how cron is supposed to do that. |
| 19:35.35 | stew | digatech: does /usr/local/b8in/indexer rely on something in your environment that wouldn't be set in the crontab environment? |
| 19:35.49 | stew | jhutchins_lt: do what? |
| 19:36.03 | digatech | not sure |
| 19:36.05 | digatech | how would I check that? |
| 19:36.34 | digatech | it's just a single string, it doesn't rely on anything |
| 19:36.46 | stew | digatech: the script is just a single sring? |
| 19:36.57 | digatech | yea, it does't need anything to run |
| 19:37.03 | stew | digatech: what is the string? |
| 19:37.07 | digatech | if crontab would run it, it'd be bonus |
| 19:37.17 | digatech | sudo /usr/local/bin/indexer -c /usr/local/etc/sphinx.conf --rotate --all >> /home/olympus/rotate2.log |
| 19:37.27 | stew | oh, i thought you meant the contents of indexer |
| 19:37.28 | digatech | I need that to run every one minute |
| 19:37.38 | stew | what does "file /usr/local/bin/indexer" return? |
| 19:37.41 | digatech | and it works on another system I'm running |
| 19:37.51 | stew | digatech: is crond actually running? |
| 19:38.02 | digatech | ~$ file /usr/local/bin/indexer |
| 19:38.03 | digatech | /usr/local/bin/indexer: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped |
| 19:38.28 | stew | err its cron not crond... but, is it running? |
| 19:38.52 | digatech | is what running? |
| 19:38.56 | stew | cron |
| 19:39.08 | digatech | ummm |
| 19:39.17 | digatech | oh |
| 19:39.21 | digatech | *blushes* |
| 19:39.27 | digatech | you have to manually start cron? |
| 19:39.31 | stew | no |
| 19:39.36 | digatech | $ sudo /etc/init.d/cron start |
| 19:39.37 | digatech | Starting periodic command scheduler: crond. |
| 19:39.46 | digatech | so I can only assume it wasn't |
| 19:40.18 | digatech | ok |
| 19:40.23 | digatech | lets see if it outputs now |
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| 19:40.37 | digatech | ok |
| 19:40.39 | digatech | it's going now |
| 19:40.44 | digatech | how do I make it start at startup |
| 19:40.45 | digatech | ? |
| 19:40.54 | superstraw | make cron start up? |
| 19:41.01 | digatech | haha |
| 19:41.16 | superstraw | update-rc.d crond default iirc |
| 19:41.16 | digatech | Do I have to put cron.. into a dun dun duuuuuuuun cron!? |
| 19:41.17 | digatech | :) |
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| 19:41.22 | stew | no |
| 19:41.29 | stew | no |
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| 19:41.37 | digatech | $ sudo update-rc.d crond default iirc |
| 19:41.38 | digatech | update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/crond: file does not exist |
| 19:41.45 | stew | you don't want to do that |
| 19:41.49 | superstraw | o |
| 19:41.56 | bintut | Rienzilla: thanks.. |
| 19:42.01 | superstraw | i usually used sysv-rc-conf |
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| 19:42.09 | stew | digatech: does "ls /etc/rc2.d/*cron*" list any matches? |
| 19:42.40 | digatech | no such file or dir |
| 19:43.02 | stew | digatech: what version of debian is this? |
| 19:43.10 | digatech | 5.0 |
| 19:43.16 | digatech | x64 |
| 19:43.20 | Rienzilla | bintut: np |
| 19:43.44 | stew | digatech: is anacron installed? |
| 19:44.08 | digatech | is now |
| 19:44.11 | digatech | *cough* |
| 19:44.18 | digatech | Starting anac(h)ronistic cron: anacron. |
| 19:44.39 | digatech | wasn't before |
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| 19:45.33 | stew | digatech: anyway, if you didn't have rc2.d links for cron, someone must have removed them |
| 19:46.00 | stew | digatech: if you want to restore them, i recommend running the update-rc.d line from the package, which you could find with "grep update-rc.d /var/lib/dpkg/info/cron.postinst" |
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| 19:48.21 | digatech | ~$ grep update-rc.d /var/lib/dpkg/info/cron.postinst |
| 19:48.21 | digatech | update-rc.d cron start 89 2 3 4 5 . stop 11 1 . >/dev/null |
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| 19:49.31 | brainbug | Hello all, i've wanted to ask a question, i've just installed debian, all works fine, however this notebook goes to alot of different places and connects to lot of wireless points, previously i had a program called "netcfg" <profile> , this contains the specifics to connect to a certain AP's (home,work, unsecure, ..) is there a possibilty to do this in debian ? :) thx 4 the info |
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| 19:49.52 | digatech | not sure what that means |
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| 19:50.49 | bintut | Rienzilla: just to check with you, what does the "virtual plugin" means in munin's terminology? |
| 19:50.51 | stew | brainbug: there are many options, you can "man interfaces" and look at "mapping", there are also tools like wicd and network-manager to help you reconfigure networking easily |
| 19:51.32 | digatech | Thanks for the assistance stew |
| 19:51.53 | brainbug | stew, thank you, just wanted to make sure it would be possible :) |
| 19:52.22 | superstraw | stew thank you again the egrep wildcard doohicky did the trick |
| 19:53.06 | superstraw | !customer |
| 19:53.06 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
| 19:53.37 | stew | brainbug: a quick search also turns up ifplugd, laptop-net, netplug, switchconf, ipcfg, netaplet |
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| 19:55.21 | spliffi | is there a way to show the installation path after aptitude? |
| 19:56.19 | stew | spliffi: not sure what you mean, but "dpkg -S packagename" will show you what files were installed and where |
| 19:56.31 | spliffi | that's it, thx |
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| 19:57.23 | stew | spliffi: uhh, that should be -L not -S |
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| 20:06.57 | Lars_G | Is the kernel in debian install CDs xen paravirt ready? |
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| 20:07.46 | khem_ | what package provides git? |
| 20:08.19 | nsadmin | git-core (but could be you're better off building it yourself) |
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| 20:09.05 | nsadmin | right now git is at 1.7.3.2 |
| 20:09.28 | nsadmin | anything much less than that is probably junk |
| 20:09.54 | stew | judd: info git --release lenny-backprts |
| 20:09.56 | judd | No record of package 'git' in None/i386. |
| 20:10.01 | stew | judd: info git --release lenny-backports |
| 20:10.03 | judd | Package git (vcs, optional) in lenny-backports/i386: fast, scalable, distributed revision control system. Version: 1:1.7.1-1.1~bpo50+1; Size: 5572.3k; Installed: 11560k; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/git |
| 20:10.46 | nsadmin | Lars_G: maybe, but don't depend on that. install debian and then choose a kernel that does the virtualization you want |
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| 20:10.53 | nsadmin | Lars_G: maybe, but don't depend on that. install debian and then choose a kernel that does the virtualization you want |
| 20:11.11 | Lars_G | nsadmin: Sorry could oyu repeat? I left as you were speaking |
| 20:11.13 | nsadmin | I just did :P |
| 20:11.26 | Lars_G | nsadmin: thanks, but I mean for the guests |
| 20:11.48 | nsadmin | you might want to prepare a guest image |
| 20:11.48 | Lars_G | Could I install at all if the kernel in the cd is not xen ready? |
| 20:11.55 | Lars_G | Yeah I think it'll come to that |
| 20:11.58 | bintut | waves |
| 20:12.00 | bintut | gtg now |
| 20:12.03 | bintut | thanks |
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| 20:12.13 | Lars_G | nsadmin: thanks |
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| 20:25.20 | stonie_ | hi.. i would rename multiple files, but just to add some prefix and keep the filename... like "rename 's/$filename/prefix$filename/' .. how is that possible? |
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| 20:27.32 | freeone3000 | Backreference. Something like `rename 's/(.*)/prefix$1/` |
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| 20:29.05 | jhutchins_lt | for foo in <filenames>; do mv $foo prefix$foo;done |
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| 20:29.32 | FilipeMaia | Is .Xresources used in remote sessions? |
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| 20:33.27 | nsadmin | stonie_: mkdir foo; touch ayy bee cee; try some renames |
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| 20:33.43 | nsadmin | wait, |
| 20:33.49 | nsadmin | stonie_: mkdir foo; cd foo; touch ayy bee cee; try some renames |
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| 20:33.53 | stonie_ | rename can do regex |
| 20:34.19 | stew | stonie_: rename 's/^/prefix/' listoffiles |
| 20:34.37 | stew | stonie_: rename is a perl loop |
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| 20:36.35 | stew | FilipeMaia: .Xresources is merged in the server, then any clients connecting to that server (no matter if they client is running locally or remotely) will inherit them |
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| 20:37.29 | FilipeMaia | stew: I'm running emacs from a remote location. If i want the setting of emacs change I should edit the .Xresources in my local machine then right? |
| 20:37.55 | stew | FilipeMaia: yes |
| 20:38.24 | stew | (and note that changes aren't effected until you "xrdb -merge .Xresources" |
| 20:39.05 | dutchfish | themill: in choosing an ARCH please consider also which kernel, changes are that latest kernels do much better on x86_64 then earlier ones, alot has been changed and improved. Furthermore the CPU itself even when 64bit doesnt always plays that well on 64bit. E8600 as an exmaple does a very good job in 64bit while older models suck on it. |
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| 20:39.43 | FilipeMaia | stew: thanks. So i'm trying antialiased fonts in emacs. Does the font have to exist in the fc-list of the server or of the remote client? |
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| 20:40.46 | stew | FilipeMaia: the x server |
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| 20:43.12 | FilipeMaia | stew: thanks |
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| 20:45.24 | FilipeMaia | stew: unfortunately it seems that whenever the font does not exist in the client emacs says "Font `Times' is not defined" |
| 20:46.06 | panfist | is it possible to list packages which have been selected for manual installation through apt? |
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| 20:46.50 | stew | FilipeMaia: oh, hmm, perhaps I dont' know the correct answer for emacs |
| 20:46.55 | stew | FilipeMaia: check with #emacs perhaps |
| 20:47.05 | FilipeMaia | stew: thanks for all the help. I will |
| 20:47.09 | bytenik__ | hi -- i have a package with a missing dependency, and i know the package will work without it. i forced it to install with dpkg, but now apt-get refuses to do anything without first resolving the missing dependency |
| 20:47.20 | bytenik__ | is there a way to get apt to ignore the dependency |
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| 20:47.48 | stew | panfist: yeah, aptitude search '~i!~M' |
| 20:48.08 | stew | panfist: well those are ones installed and marked manual, it wouldn't include ones marked for manual install but not yet installed |
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| 20:49.02 | Iridos | bytenik, no, only if it's a recommend... else you can only repackage the package with different dependencies and possibly file a bugreport |
| 20:49.13 | panfist | thanks stew |
| 20:49.16 | stew | bytenik: no, but look at /msg dpkg equivs |
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| 20:49.19 | subsume | if I use screen to have a terminal open in another server, does the original server hang for any reason on processes running in the screen instance? |
| 20:49.25 | bytenik | how difficult is a repackage like that? |
| 20:49.44 | jhutchins_lt | There's a way to trick dpkg into thinking the package is installed. |
| 20:49.44 | stew | bytenik: is this a debian package? |
| 20:50.05 | bytenik | yea, its hamachi2, but i'm on a readynas which still runs debian edge |
| 20:50.06 | stew | there is no reason to trick dpkg |
| 20:50.18 | bytenik | so it wants lso |
| 20:50.25 | bytenik | which has a million dependencies i don't want to give it |
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| 20:50.34 | stew | bytenik: i ask because if this is a pacakging error, a bug should be filed |
| 20:50.45 | bytenik | and the only reason it wants lso is to be able to register for start-on-boot, which i can do on my own |
| 20:50.47 | panfist | stew so the search pattern that you gave me basically says to search for packages that are installed and not packages that are automatically installed |
| 20:50.56 | bytenik | so the package is not "necessary" even if it is |
| 20:50.57 | stew | panfist: yes |
| 20:51.06 | panfist | thanks! |
| 20:51.29 | stew | bytenik: you want equivs |
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| 20:51.48 | bytenik | equivs? |
| 20:51.55 | stew | bytenik: if you thihk this could be downgraded to a Recommends (which would not be strictly required) consider filing a bug |
| 20:51.58 | stew | bytenik: yes |
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| 20:52.46 | jhutchins_lt | . |
| 20:53.16 | bytenik | no dice |
| 20:53.27 | stew | bytenik: what do you mean? |
| 20:53.41 | bytenik | it still says it depends on lsb and won't install |
| 20:54.03 | stew | bytenik: did you already build a lsb package which equivs? |
| 20:54.15 | stew | ^which^with |
| 20:54.28 | stew | bytenik: did you read "/msg dpkg equivs" ? |
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| 20:56.51 | bytenik | no i didn't, i thought you meant equivs would provide the dep |
| 20:56.52 | bytenik | one sec |
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| 20:58.56 | stonie_ | stew, thanks that rename worked fine, except when prefix is a $VARIABLE .. how can i solve that? |
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| 21:00.43 | stew | stonie_: use double quotes instead of single quotes |
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| 21:01.01 | stew | stonie_: the single quotes in my example would tell your shell not to try to mess with the quoted contents |
| 21:01.11 | stonie_ | for the whole command? or only 's/^/"$prefix"/' |
| 21:01.49 | stew | stonie_: anything that is in single quotes will be ignored by the shell, so that won't work, i meant replace the single quotes with double quotes |
| 21:01.58 | stonie_ | ok thanks ill try |
| 21:02.01 | stew | stonie_: in reality, in this case, the quotes are not at all necessary |
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| 21:10.35 | bytenik | stew: I built a package called lsb-dummy with a provides: lsb |
| 21:10.41 | bytenik | stew: it still thinks its missing |
| 21:11.00 | bytenik | wait nevermind, i left Provides commented. :-) |
| 21:11.22 | stew | bytenik: is it a versioned dependency? |
| 21:11.27 | bytenik | stew: yea |
| 21:11.32 | stew | then you can't use provides |
| 21:11.34 | bytenik | oh |
| 21:11.38 | bytenik | so i have to actually pretend to be it |
| 21:11.52 | stew | yes, there is no way to do a "versioned provides" |
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| 21:12.48 | stew | (this does, btw beg the question of why not just install lsb) |
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| 21:12.58 | bytenik | stew: lsb seems to have another 15 deps |
| 21:13.18 | Jon2 | Hey, anyone have a script I could use to put a form on my website that allows users to get a shell? It needs ti automatically setup the shell for them. |
| 21:13.35 | bytenik | stew: including x11-base |
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| 21:13.46 | stew | yes |
| 21:13.55 | stonie_ | stew, doesnt work :( |
| 21:14.01 | bytenik | that's a lot of stuff for an embedded system. :-p |
| 21:14.06 | stew | stonie_: show us the exact command |
| 21:14.13 | bytenik | YES, success |
| 21:14.14 | bytenik | thank you very much |
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| 21:14.23 | stew | cool :) |
| 21:14.31 | stonie_ | rename "s/^/$BASENAME-/" $ATTACHMENT where $ATTACHMENT is the list of files |
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| 21:15.12 | stew | stonie_: and what is the contents of BASENAME ? |
| 21:15.12 | stonie_ | with full path |
| 21:15.23 | stonie_ | 20101201-38652-test |
| 21:15.47 | stew | do you get an error? |
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| 21:16.09 | stonie_ | lets see.. i ran it via cron..sec |
| 21:17.02 | stonie_ | may take a min because i got a check if BASENAME is older than one min |
| 21:17.40 | Jon2 | Hey, anyone have a script I could use to put a form on my website that allows users to get a shell? It needs ti automatically setup the shell for them. |
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| 21:20.34 | stonie_ | this is the error |
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| 21:21.35 | stew | stonie_: oh, right, its treating $ATTACHMENT as a single filename |
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| 21:22.45 | stonie_ | then with a for i in $ATTACHEMENT loop? |
| 21:24.07 | stew | stonie_: or use an array, or use something goofy like $(echo $ATTACHMENT) |
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| 21:25.22 | doughj3 | I hope this isn't a stupid question, but why are there 30 CD isos in this directory? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.7/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 21:25.39 | doughj3 | Do I need them all to install debian? I wouldn't think so, but I'm also not sure why there are 30... |
| 21:26.10 | petemc | doughj3: debian has a lot od packages, you only need the first one or even a small netinstall disc to install from |
| 21:26.24 | doughj3 | CD-1.iso should work if I don't have a net connection? |
| 21:26.30 | petemc | yes |
| 21:26.48 | doughj3 | Awesome, thanks! I've always used debian on a VPS where installation was handled for me, now putting it on a local box. |
| 21:28.13 | Jon2 | Does anyone have a script I could use to put a form on my website that allows users to get a shell? It needs ti automatically setup the shell for them. |
| 21:28.27 | jhutchins | 30 CDs include all the internationalization of some 30,000 packages. |
| 21:28.28 | abrotman | you didn't write it yet? you've been asking since yesterday? |
| 21:28.38 | abrotman | oh, this morning |
| 21:29.10 | Jon2 | abrotman: yeah, I've been at school. |
| 21:29.15 | stew | !tell Jon2 about repeat |
| 21:29.35 | abrotman | Yeah, well, one of two things are going to happen .. you're going to get setup with some sort of automated crap, or you're going to reap passwords .. no thanks |
| 21:29.41 | Jon2 | I need help with it since I have no clue how to code php. |
| 21:29.42 | stew | (and btw, it sounds like what you are trying to do is asking for trouble) |
| 21:30.02 | stew | that makes it really sound like you are asking for trouble |
| 21:30.05 | Jon2 | stew: I plan on restricting it to registered IRC users or something |
| 21:30.06 | doughj3 | Jon2 |
| 21:30.07 | abrotman | Jon2: then perhaps ask ##php and offer to pay someone |
| 21:30.18 | abrotman | It really has nothing to do with Debian |
| 21:30.28 | doughj3 | Jon2: Have you looked into mindterm? I don't know if that's what you're looking for... |
| 21:30.29 | Jon2 | I'm a student, you really think I have the kind of money to pay to have it done? =P |
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| 21:30.46 | abrotman | If you're a student, you have free time to learn how |
| 21:30.59 | Jon2 | Not much |
| 21:31.03 | doughj3 | @google mindterm |
| 21:31.04 | abrotman | you're doing something wrong |
| 21:31.24 | jhutchins | The terms "web shell" return 57,800,000 hits on google. |
| 21:31.41 | abrotman | And it still has nothing to do with Debian .. go ask google, or ask ##php to volunteer time to write it for you |
| 21:31.48 | Jon2 | Does mindterm create shell users? |
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| 21:31.51 | stew | a good sign that thats a bad search term |
| 21:32.08 | jhutchins | How do I turn on this light switch? |
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| 21:32.23 | jhutchins | stew: Actually, several useful hits on top. |
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| 21:32.37 | SparFux | Hi all. In logrotate, using dateext and dateformat makes my logfile turn round 2 times: first with the old daemon.log.<number>.gz way and shortly after with the date format! I don't want the <number> thing. How to turn it ioff? |
| 21:32.48 | stew | jhutchins: but not useful to him |
| 21:32.59 | jhutchins | stew: They would be if he read them. |
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| 21:33.07 | stew | jhutchins: not at all |
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| 21:33.20 | stew | jhutchins: which would help him create a php script that does adduser? |
| 21:33.42 | jhutchins | suspects he's lost another thread... |
| 21:33.44 | nsadmin | google would certainly help him find it |
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| 21:34.01 | abrotman | oh i know .. he could ask ##php |
| 21:34.02 | benji_ | Hi, do you know how to use find to match *.xml and *.properties ? :) |
| 21:34.09 | SparFux | Ah, I know, it's because of /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles --weekly in cron. |
| 21:34.12 | jhutchins | !webmin |
| 21:34.13 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 about the removal from Debian. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 21:34.15 | abrotman | benji_: IIRC find can take two --name arguments |
| 21:34.32 | benji_ | abrotman, thank you! |
| 21:34.36 | doughj3 | What's wrong with webmin? :[ |
| 21:34.41 | abrotman | so many things |
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| 21:36.18 | nsadmin | JonSparks, the area you're getting into is one that has security implications... |
| 21:36.38 | nsadmin | adduser, for example, needs to be run as root |
| 21:36.47 | nsadmin | and usually web servers do not |
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| 21:37.03 | benji_ | find . \( -name "*.xml" -o -name "*.properties" \) :) |
| 21:37.35 | JonSparks | nsadmin: Would it work through a sudoer? |
| 21:37.39 | doughj3 | cron runs as root |
| 21:37.50 | doughj3 | could have a crun script which gets info from the webserver to adduser. |
| 21:38.02 | doughj3 | This doesn't seem like a great idea, though. |
| 21:38.31 | nsadmin | which means either that your script would somehow have to run as root but in an env where it's another user (BAD idea) or make a copy of adduser that itself is setuid root (BAD idea) |
| 21:38.32 | JonSparks | $user = $_POST[user_name]; |
| 21:38.32 | JonSparks | $password = $_POST[password]; |
| 21:38.33 | JonSparks | passthru ("su -"); |
| 21:38.33 | JonSparks | passthru ("root's password"); |
| 21:38.33 | JonSparks | passthru ("useradd $user -p $password" ); |
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| 21:38.46 | JonSparks | -_- |
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| 21:39.17 | nsadmin | well yeah, actually you'd use useradd since adduser is interactive |
| 21:39.33 | CissWit | JonSparks: this way, you avoid all benefits of having your webserver not running as root |
| 21:39.38 | stew | there is so much wrong with that... |
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| 21:39.47 | nsadmin | yes, you're right |
| 21:40.02 | SparFux | "Note that logrotate is not the only log rotation program on a typical Debian system. sysklogd uses its own log rotation scripts which can be found in /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd and /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd" Which one am I supposed to change if special requirements are there for /var/log/messages? |
| 21:40.15 | nsadmin | stew: like we can stop him from doing it |
| 21:40.33 | nsadmin | well let's see. |
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| 21:40.42 | nsadmin | JonSparks, why are you doing this? |
| 21:40.56 | JonSparks | CissWit: I don't mind that, I have my server setup only to allow my IP to connect as root. And the server's main IP. |
| 21:41.19 | SparFux | Wouldn't it be better for the logrotate package to take over all log rotating? |
| 21:41.29 | JonSparks | nsadmin: because I give out shells to my friends to tunnel and would rather give them a link for it than manually do it |
| 21:41.49 | CissWit | JonSparks: if you don't mind, just run your webserver as root. |
| 21:42.04 | JonSparks | Then what would I do after that? |
| 21:42.08 | khem_ | what debian package contains make: dh_testdir: Command not found ? |
| 21:42.09 | nsadmin | anyth9ing you want |
| 21:42.11 | khem_ | dh_testdir ? |
| 21:42.23 | nsadmin | debhelper |
| 21:42.34 | JonSparks | How would running as root let me run a script when I don;t have a script? |
| 21:42.37 | khem_ | thankyu sir |
| 21:42.41 | nsadmin | you might also want build-essential |
| 21:43.00 | nsadmin | you're going to have to write it |
| 21:43.08 | JonSparks | I can't write php |
| 21:43.24 | nsadmin | "can't" is meaningless. |
| 21:43.36 | nsadmin | either you choose not to, or you don't know how. |
| 21:43.37 | JonSparks | I don;t have the time to learn. |
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| 21:43.57 | nsadmin | then you would need to engage someone who does know |
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| 21:44.37 | nsadmin | which may or may not involve money changing hands. |
| 21:45.13 | nsadmin | for example... I'm not going to learn php just because you don't want to |
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| 21:45.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | if you're taking crazy pills do it properly and run a shell script in cgi (and no, dont do that at home kids) |
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| 21:46.28 | nsadmin | don't do it at home... do it in the dorm... |
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| 21:47.51 | nsadmin | JonSparks, what are they going to tunnel thru? |
| 21:47.53 | keith4 | how do I set apt to automatically pull in new versions of packages that I have installed from lenny-backports? |
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| 21:49.16 | Iridos | you don't need a shell to tunnel... |
| 21:49.44 | Iridos | can be /bin/false or something, it seems |
| 21:49.53 | keith4 | sounds like he wants a web-based proxy, no? |
| 21:50.26 | keith4 | (I haven't read up all the way) |
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| 21:52.22 | stew | keith4: see the instructions page a backports.debian.org |
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| 21:52.56 | keith4 | stew: i was just reading that... does it *have* to be /etc/apt/preferences, or could it be in apt.conf.d? the instructions sort of trail off before the colon |
| 21:53.31 | keith4 | (in that it says "either in ....", but then doesn't offer an alternative |
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| 21:54.26 | Iridos | keith4, I think he never asked the <real question> at all... just this crazy stuff about turning your machine into a spamthowing garbage pit.. and the only thing that shines some light on it was <JonSparks> nsadmin: because I give out shells to my friends to tunnel and would rather give them a link for it than manually do it |
| 21:54.30 | jhutchins | keith4: preferences works. |
| 21:55.12 | keith4 | Iridos: so he wants a web-accessible account-creation script? that's some serious insanity |
| 21:55.32 | keith4 | jhutchins: right, but I was hoping to toss it in apt.conf.d |
| 21:56.01 | nsadmin | I'd say his best bet is to write something for his iphone or android |
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| 21:56.17 | jhutchins | keith4: So try it. |
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| 21:58.02 | keith4 | doesn't seem to work. the pinning snippet seems to be a different syntax than other things in apt.conf.d. oh well |
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| 21:58.50 | nsadmin | two things have me not wanting to deal with him... first off, the idea of the spamfactory that he's potentially creating, and second, he's lazy and doesn't take responsibility for it |
| 21:59.05 | nsadmin | he can be lazy and pay someone to save him the time |
| 21:59.20 | nsadmin | then he'd be taking responsibility |
| 21:59.26 | Iridos | well, time is money... |
| 21:59.36 | Iridos | which means when you're a 100 years old, you're very rich |
| 21:59.39 | nsadmin | no, but time can be traded for money |
| 22:00.24 | nsadmin | heh, how many poor old people do you know? time is not money unless work is done to set it up |
| 22:01.11 | DiscordianUK | is very old |
| 22:01.18 | DiscordianUK | and poor |
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| 22:02.14 | Iridos | "rich in years" |
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| 22:02.44 | raven737 | Hi i am trying to rsync a 4.6G file but it just freezes/hangs at 4820318800 with 98%... what is going on? |
| 22:02.59 | nsadmin | well, anything you think about expands... so think about $$$ :) |
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| 22:03.35 | CissWit | raven737: do you rsync on a fat system ? |
| 22:03.49 | raven737 | CissWit: no it is xfs on both systems |
| 22:04.00 | nsadmin | enough room? |
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| 22:04.46 | raven737 | nsadmin: ops... thank you! |
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| 22:07.19 | SparFux | What's so bad to have logrotate manage *all* the log files? |
| 22:08.22 | SparFux | Why does debian use a complicated parsing script for the /etc/syslog.conf for the syslogd logfilles in which I don't even can handle how often to rotate stuff? |
| 22:09.06 | jhutchins | SparFux: Because Debian is just a collection of software written by many different project developers. They coordinate it as well as they can, but some people just have to be different. |
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| 22:17.54 | SparFux | jhutchins: there are posts from 2006 concerning this issue. The bad thing is, it's really easy to screw you whole logging data by having two control machanisms competing for sysklogd files :-( |
| 22:19.06 | SparFux | jhutchins: I am different. I want logfiles with no numbers 1 2 3 4, but with iso date 2010-12-03 appended and stored forever until I delete to have data for court in case I get busted for copyright infringement :-P |
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| 22:23.18 | ehaupt | is there any compat lib i could install for "`GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found"? |
| 22:23.35 | ehaupt | it's an old binary i need to get running |
| 22:25.10 | pipeline | ehaupt: backwards compatibility isn't pretty on linux. There are other steps you could take to get it running, but I suggest you cut to the chase and get an older version of linux up and running in a VM. |
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| 22:25.40 | pipeline | ehaupt: out of the 40-odd isv packages I have for linux from the 90s and 00s, only about 5 of them will run on my 2.6.32 system. |
| 22:26.01 | pipeline | ehaupt: ...and that's with often-extensive tweaking. |
| 22:26.01 | pipeline | ehaupt: you're better off to virtualize now and not even bother with tweking shit |
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| 22:26.39 | ehaupt | normally i'd agree funny thing is, tried it in a ubuntu 10.10 image and it just works somehow |
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| 22:28.25 | DrEpsas | hello -- I am trying to install java apps -- but am having problems installing the sun-java6-jre packag |
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| 22:28.50 | DrEpsas | openjdk-6-jre is the same thing, or different? |
| 22:29.07 | DrEpsas | and would I be able to use that to satisfy the dependency? |
| 22:29.15 | DrEpsas | is this mic on? |
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| 22:29.21 | DrEpsas | :) |
| 22:30.19 | freeone3000 | It will satisfy the depend, and it should be compatible, but Oracle screwed up with the OpenJDK release, and there's a few random crashes in some high profile apps like IDEA and Tomcat. |
| 22:30.20 | Boohemian | how do i give a specific user access to /var/www/ and all it's subdir's and files? |
| 22:30.45 | pipeline | Boohemian: the simplest way is to add the user to the group that owns /var/www |
| 22:30.52 | pipeline | Boohemian: commonly the "www" group |
| 22:31.11 | pipeline | Boohemian: if you want to get fancy and have multiple groups etc, you'll need to learn how to use acls (google getfacl / setfacl) |
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| 22:31.38 | DrEpsas | freeone3000 - I still get liblucene2-java: Depends: sun-java5-jre which is a virtual package. or |
| 22:31.58 | Boohemian | pipeline: with chmod? it's www-data that owns /var/www/* |
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| 22:32.33 | pipeline | Boohemian: then add your user to the www-data group. You don't need to chmod anything. |
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| 22:33.12 | Bushmills | may have to chmod g+w |
| 22:33.25 | freeone3000 | DrEpsas: Okay. That's a mess-up in the packaging. A java6 depend, in an ideal world, would also provide java5, java4, and so on, back through time. It doesn't, the same way that glibc4.2 doesn't provide glibc3.2. Your best bet is to install lucene through the normal means of Java dependency resolution (maven, ant ivy, or standard classpath). If you're installing a Java app through apt, I believe there may be a java5 package available on |
| 22:33.27 | freeone3000 | backports. |
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| 22:34.07 | DrEpsas | freeone3000 - ahh, i found out that i spelled "non-fre" in the apt sources :) |
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| 22:34.22 | DrEpsas | now I have the dependencies coming in through apt |
| 22:34.55 | freeone3000 | Odd lucene would depend on a specific version rather than just 'java2'. |
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| 22:36.55 | pcundco | geht auf pcforum.dyndns.org/forum/ heut gab es ein gratis PC Game im adventskalender müsst aber erst kostenlos anmelden xD |
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| 22:37.24 | simonrvn | ha! |
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| 23:01.12 | planet8 | I'm using gscan2pdf to scan some documents into pdf. I have added the normal user to the scanner group and changed the root.root to root.scanner of gscan2pdf. When I scan as user I get empty documents, but when I scan as root it works. What's missing? |
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| 23:04.52 | planet8 | okay.. I have just tried, as a test, to add the normal user to all groups, but still gets empty documents. Why can only root access the scanner right? |
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| 23:08.01 | jetscreamer | isn't there a scanner group? i forget |
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| 23:08.25 | Iridos | there's one for saned |
| 23:08.27 | planet8 | yes, and the user is added and the gscan2pdf group is set to the scanner group |
| 23:08.37 | planet8 | yes, user is also added the saned group |
| 23:08.50 | jetscreamer | probably 'worng' way but change the perm on the device comes to mind |
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| 23:09.15 | planet8 | jetscreamer, like 777? |
| 23:09.23 | jetscreamer | nah |
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| 23:09.32 | jetscreamer | that would be 'wrong' |
| 23:09.36 | jetscreamer | or Wrong |
| 23:09.56 | planet8 | jetscreamer, yes :) but what where you thinking? |
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| 23:10.06 | jetscreamer | !sane |
| 23:10.06 | dpkg | [sane] Scanner Access Now Easy, an <API> for scanner access. Packaged for Debian as sane, xsane (GUI frontends) and sane-utils (CLI frontend, saned server). Supported device list: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html . FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljm/SANE-faq.html . To use over a network, see http://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork . http://www.sane-project.org/ #sane at irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:11.10 | jetscreamer | chown user:group .. probably still 'wrong' |
| 23:11.29 | jetscreamer | i cut a lot of corners |
| 23:12.41 | planet8 | np.. testing |
| 23:14.59 | planet8 | still the same result.. don't get this.. currently I have to su to root and scan, save, then change the user rights on the saved file from root to user.. annoying. |
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| 23:15.25 | jetscreamer | read those links the bot spammed maybe... dunno don't do scanners |
| 23:15.32 | jetscreamer | or try #sane |
| 23:15.38 | planet8 | I suspect this maybe isn't related to sane, gscan2pdf or user groups, but perhaps something usb. |
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| 23:19.30 | jhutchins_lt | I just installed xsane and scanned to PDF files. |
| 23:19.46 | jhutchins_lt | Didn't have to monkey with permissions or anything. |
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| 23:20.04 | planet8 | yes, I can do that to. It's not xsane that's the problem. gscan2pdf is. |
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| 23:20.34 | planet8 | but thanks anyway :) |
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| 23:30.47 | jhutchins_lt | Never messed with gscan2pdf |
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