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| 00:00.30 | fignew | O_o khem_: Just upgraded to 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
| 00:00.39 | fignew | and now my VPS won't boot :P |
| 00:01.58 | fignew | completely unrelated ;) |
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| 00:04.19 | ranix | !z25 |
| 00:04.19 | dpkg | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch). If you want the mappings to change, edit the respective file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" ("udevtrigger" on Etch) or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
| 00:06.23 | RichiH | in related news, udev needs to die solely because of that "feature" |
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| 00:08.02 | themill | Or you can configure it however you choose. Up to you. Personally, I always found it much more fun to have devices randomly rename themselves because they happen to be initialised in a different order on each boot. |
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| 00:17.34 | jhutchins_lt | remembers the fun of Windows 98 - a different computer every time you boot. |
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| 00:30.44 | inetd50 | jhutchins_lt: fool |
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| 00:35.21 | jhutchins_lt | http://www.offworlddesigns.com/p-291-fools-i-will-destroy-you-t-shirt.aspx |
| 00:36.20 | f8l | Hmm. I thought someone called me, but that was just someone who takes jokes literally. |
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| 00:42.47 | Iridos | changing wallpaper using nitrogen... like... pressurized air? |
| 00:43.33 | zinx | Iridos: yes. but it has to be low-oxygen or you will damage your computer. |
| 00:43.37 | zinx | Iridos: try apt-cache search some time >_< |
| 00:44.24 | Iridos | what I didn't understand was where the gnome comes in... |
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| 00:47.57 | zinx | Iridos: how else are you going to get the compressed air to decompress? |
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| 00:49.47 | Iridos | by using it to blow off the old wallpaper, obviously |
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| 00:54.00 | sfaer | Hi there, I have set up server machine in my network, I used dnsmasq as dns server. I want to assign static ips to some computers and access them by their names. So in the /etc/hosts file I have entered some lines like that "10.0.0.2 ken" . I can nsookup from all machines for name ken, so dns server works, but I cannot ping ken by its name (direct ip ping works). Also if I write in the hosts file "10.0.0.2 ken.com" I can ping to ken.com ... But I |
| 00:54.00 | sfaer | don't want to use extensions, what can be the reason for that , anyone can guide me to solve? |
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| 00:56.38 | Iridos | dnsmasq uses /etc/hosts? |
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| 00:57.39 | sfaer | yes dnsmasq reads the hosts file, and I can nslookup for the ipadresses sor the dns server works as far as I get. But when I try to "ping ken" as in the example, or in the browser I enter http://ken it fails |
| 00:57.53 | Iridos | I would think it's because dns isn't made to transfer things that arent fqdn... |
| 00:58.05 | Genosh | hi. |
| 00:58.43 | stew | sure it is :) |
| 00:58.54 | Iridos | so you could enter something like ken.something.made-up.com, then add a "search" line in resolv.conf for something.made-up.com, or not use dns and have "someip ken" etc. in all host files? |
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| 00:59.46 | Iridos | then I don't see why his original setup doesn't work... |
| 01:00.00 | Iridos | *something* along the way must refuse to do that |
| 01:00.06 | innociv | I see a file put on my system at 12/1 2:28:32 PM. How do I clean out my access log so it's not so huge and I can find that? |
| 01:00.40 | sfaer | well my dns server should not transfer ken to any other name server, it should resolve itself and return the ip, cuz it is already in it is cache since it reads the hosts file (nslookups repeating works) |
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| 01:01.26 | Iridos | huh, you said nslookup works |
| 01:01.47 | sfaer | I used etch before, the setup was like that and it was working, I have reformatted my server and upgrade to squeeze, all things seem same but this time name defined in hosts file which don't have extentions does not work with ping, or other applications |
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| 01:02.38 | sfaer | yes nslookup works, so "nslookup ken" returns the ip address 10.0.0.2 ---- But "ping ken" fails as well ass "http://ken" in the browser |
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| 01:03.45 | themill | nslookup only uses dns; other programs will use the libc resolver (use "getent hosts ken" to test) |
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| 01:05.47 | sfaer | I have just tried it, "getent hosts ken" returns nothing |
| 01:07.16 | sfaer | but "getent hosts ken2.com" returns an ip (it also works with ping, since it has an extension which I don't want to use) |
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| 01:12.11 | sfaer | it is some hard to write "10.0.0.2 ken" for all hosts file, there are notebooks people come and use, so it is not an option unfortunately |
| 01:13.28 | jhutchins_lt | sfaer: You gotta get your admin fu on and figure out how to push that out automatically. |
| 01:13.37 | Iridos | so why does it fail to find it with the libc resolver, then |
| 01:15.39 | sfaer | jhutchins_lt, thats my home network I am all alone with that |
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| 01:16.18 | sfaer | Iridos, I donno, I'll try a restart with this machine, nothings come to my mind |
| 01:16.49 | Iridos | the suggestion with the search-path would still work for that, though... or can't search-paths come from a dhcp server, too? |
| 01:18.59 | sfaer | I have opened another notebook that uses the dhcp server of my box, still the same, ken.com may work, but names without extensions does not |
| 01:19.32 | Iridos | but if you have "search com" in resolv.conf, it will |
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| 01:20.28 | sfaer | Iridos, what should I enter in the resolv.conf |
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| 01:21.40 | tedivm | I have a question that I know is ridiculous. completely ridiculous, which makes me almost embarrassed to ask. Lets say you somehow messed up and managed to create millions of nested subdirectories going hundreds deep, to the point where erasing them is taking hours and not really doing much. Can anyone think of a simple way to remove all of the folders? There's a single parent, but "rm -R folder/" is taking so painfully long. |
| 01:21.42 | Iridos | better not with .com, but if you make it "ken.homenet.com", and have "search homenet.com" in /etc/resolv.conf, then "ken" would be expanded to homenetl.com |
| 01:21.59 | Iridos | or you figure out, why the resolver thinks this is not valid |
| 01:23.05 | Iridos | tedivm, yes... puting a new filesystem on the drive (apart from that you have to erase all of them, no way around it) |
| 01:23.25 | tedivm | hahaha, okay, i'll go with the screen + rm option then |
| 01:23.41 | sfaer | dnsmasq also has an option to add domain name to simple names, maybe I should try that, but this does not make sense how can it work with nslookup, and cannot with ping |
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| 01:28.52 | Iridos | I don't know why it would fail... it would fail if there's something that has precedence, like the local /etc/hosts |
| 01:29.01 | Iridos | but for you it seems to not find anything at all? |
| 01:29.59 | Iridos | could be a bug? |
| 01:30.35 | sfaer | "192.168.0.2 ek" <--- a line in the server's /etc/hosts file |
| 01:30.54 | sfaer | nslookup ek |
| 01:30.54 | sfaer | Server:192.168.0.1 |
| 01:30.54 | sfaer | Address:192.168.0.1#53 |
| 01:30.54 | sfaer | Name:ek |
| 01:30.54 | sfaer | Address: 192.168.0.2 |
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| 01:32.39 | sfaer | http://paste.debian.net/101470/ <-- here is what I see from command line |
| 01:33.09 | Iridos | what does the getent line return? |
| 01:38.43 | sfaer | http://paste.debian.net/101472/ |
| 01:39.39 | innociv | how do i grep to find 01/Dec/2010:14? I tried escaping the slashes like 01\/Dec\/2010:14 but that sitll doens't work |
| 01:40.26 | dondelelcaro | innociv: it's just grep '01/Dec/2010:14' |
| 01:40.29 | Iridos | does... but you have to escape the whole string for bash |
| 01:40.53 | Iridos | oh, right... slashes aren't special for grep anyway |
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| 01:41.03 | innociv | weird.. doesn't seem to work for me |
| 01:41.19 | innociv | it just returns nothing |
| 01:41.24 | dondelelcaro | echo '01/Dec/2010:14'|grep '01/Dec/2010:14' |
| 01:41.29 | DiscordianUK | backslashes are |
| 01:41.32 | dondelelcaro | that's the trivial test |
| 01:41.35 | innociv | tail - 1000 /path/to/log | grep -i "1/Dec/2010:14" gives me nothing, when i know it's there |
| 01:41.45 | CestSebastian | Hello, If i try to run $apt-get install openssh-server I get the error: package not found but is reffered to in another package. |
| 01:41.48 | CestSebastian | any ideas why? |
| 01:41.57 | CestSebastian | I ran $apt-get update aswell |
| 01:42.12 | DiscordianUK | I know why yes |
| 01:42.33 | CestSebastian | can you please tell me |
| 01:42.33 | dondelelcaro | innociv: then whatever is in that file doesn't actually match what you're searching for |
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| 01:42.41 | innociv | oh wow wtf |
| 01:42.51 | innociv | the whole 01/Dec of my access logs isn't ther eit seem |
| 01:42.58 | innociv | 03/Dec works. 29/Nov works. |
| 01:43.04 | innociv | 01/Dec and 02/Dec is just empty.. |
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| 01:43.48 | CestSebastian | anyone? |
| 01:43.56 | dondelelcaro | CestSebastian: that usually means that you're missing a sources.list entry |
| 01:44.08 | dondelelcaro | (or you haven't run apt-get update; recently) |
| 01:44.20 | CestSebastian | I have, just now |
| 01:44.27 | innociv | I have two days of access logs missing from when something malicious got on my server.. |
| 01:44.32 | innociv | I am lost on what to do |
| 01:44.50 | DiscordianUK | reinstall |
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| 01:44.55 | innociv | I don't have a rootkit |
| 01:44.57 | innociv | and already tried taht |
| 01:45.07 | innociv | I can delete what is put on but the same exploit is used over and over |
| 01:45.12 | innociv | something php, undoubtably |
| 01:45.20 | DiscordianUK | sounds like you've been hacked |
| 01:45.20 | innociv | But i can't figure out what exactly and stop it. |
| 01:45.27 | CestSebastian | is there any chance for someone to post their sources.list so i can update mine? |
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| 01:45.50 | DiscordianUK | php is a known sploit |
| 01:46.04 | innociv | http://pdw.weinstein.org/2010/06/damn-script-kiddies-get-off-my-lawn.html is basically the same problem i'm having |
| 01:46.20 | innociv | /usr/sbin/apache/log using 100% of my cpu. It's some mail spammer |
| 01:46.35 | DiscordianUK | haha |
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| 01:48.05 | Iridos | CestSebastian, tell us what you're missing and we can perhaps tell you what repo it is in |
| 01:48.10 | dondelelcaro | !tell CestSebastian -about sources.list |
| 01:48.51 | CestSebastian | im missing openssh-server |
| 01:49.15 | peterrooney | innociv: and you can't chmod -x the pxconfig trojan? |
| 01:49.16 | Iridos | uh, but that's in main |
| 01:49.36 | CestSebastian | what are my options then? |
| 01:50.09 | Iridos | look at the factoid dondelelcaro let dpkg give you... if that doesn't help you, pastebin your current /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:50.11 | dondelelcaro | CestSebastian: are you actually running Debian? what does apt-cache policy; output? |
| 01:50.29 | CestSebastian | im definitely running debian |
| 01:50.41 | innociv | peterrooney, i can delete the whole perl program but a new one just gets back on my system under a different name |
| 01:50.42 | DiscordianUK | uname -a |
| 01:50.47 | innociv | Someone keeps hitting my system with it. |
| 01:51.00 | innociv | I need to stop this thing from getting on in the first place. |
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| 01:54.15 | innociv | So it seems like some exploit in php is allowing it to wget, extract, and run a program. |
| 01:54.21 | DogWater | anyone know if the 5.0.7 installer works with new hardware? |
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| 01:55.01 | DogWater | innociv: php can run wget and execute programs without any exploits |
| 01:55.30 | innociv | but it's no script of mine that does any wgeting |
| 01:56.29 | DogWater | yeah, but if an attacker tricks your site into downloading another script and executing that script, that script could have code that does that |
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| 01:56.41 | Jon2 | Hey, I'm trying to use freenx and keep getting this error: |
| 01:57.06 | Jon2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.06 | Jon2 | NX> 100 NXSERVER - Version 3.2.0-74-SVN OS (GPL, using backend: 3.3.0) |
| 01:57.06 | Jon2 | NX> 500 Error: Function -c not implemented yet. |
| 01:57.06 | Jon2 | NX> 999 Bye |
| 01:57.06 | Jon2 | NX> 280 Exiting on signal: 15 |
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| 01:57.13 | CestSebastian | this is my sources.list file : codepaste.net/t9akmf |
| 01:57.14 | innociv | DogWater, right, that seems what the problem is |
| 01:57.22 | Jon2 | I keep getting this funtion -c not implemented yet thing |
| 01:57.47 | DogWater | it doesn't really always mean that there is a vuln in PHP, you could just not be checking variables people are passing to your script properly |
| 01:57.47 | CestSebastian | sorry ill reformat : http://codepaste.net/t9akmf |
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| 01:59.01 | CestSebastian | any idea what's missing Iridos? |
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| 02:00.06 | Iridos | yes... that what the factoid told you... you need one line with deb http://ftp.CC.debian.org/debian lenny main (where CC is your country code) ... and you can add "non-free contrib" after main, if you want access to non-gpl software and things that depend on it, too |
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| 02:01.26 | CestSebastian | thanks a lot! |
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| 02:13.46 | chrisb | what's the process [flush-8:96] ? sometimes it shows up as [flush-9:0] |
| 02:13.57 | chrisb | owned by root |
| 02:14.48 | ThePub | ? |
| 02:15.14 | sfaer | I just solved it for the ones interested what I have done: I reconfigured dhcp server in the box to give domain name as "localnet" and in the hosts file I enter names as ken.localnet. now I can just ping ken :)) Thanks for all interested and helped |
| 02:15.56 | ThePub | sfaer: hosts file overrides your default nameserver list, you shouldn't need to do anything with dhcp to utilize that functionality. |
| 02:16.08 | CestSebastian | after creating a user, what is the right way to make the user a sudoer? |
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| 02:17.07 | ThePub | CestSebastian: debian default iirc has a "sudoers" group. Just add them to the group. Just reinstalled so I can't confirm that since sudo isn't setup yet :) |
| 02:17.33 | jownez | when running rpcinfo -p, it shows 65535 as nfs port, what does that mean or how do i set a proper port ? |
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| 02:18.11 | icebrain | CestSebastian, ThePub: according to the sudoers file, the group is "sudo" |
| 02:18.36 | sfaer | ThePub, hosts file is in the server, I am trying to assing simple names to some static ips, DNS server gets it and works with nslookups, so "nslookup ken" gives the ip address I want but I was not able to ping the ken the reason seems as now was that the dhcp server set all clients domain name extension for simle names to example.org so when I was writing "ping ken" it was looking for ken.example.org |
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| 02:23.21 | petisnnake | how do I add an existing user to the sudo group, because I now get the message: user x already exists. when i try $ useradd -G sudo x |
| 02:23.49 | dondelelcaro | petisnnake: adduser user group; man adduser; |
| 02:24.22 | petisnnake | thanks so much |
| 02:24.38 | ThePub | sfaer: I would assume it's related to how dhcp is service up resolver information, like you already mentioned. Not knowing more, if your solution works for you I'm not going to say anything :) |
| 02:26.06 | karlpinc | petisnnake: Don't forget to re-login. (And remember, sudo is less safe than su so long as you trust those with the root password.) |
| 02:26.58 | petisnnake | oh i understand. thanks a lot for clarifying |
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| 02:30.30 | nsadmin | petisnnake, you would use usermod for that, and the -G param takes -all- the groups the user is to be a member; leaving a group out is removing them from that group |
| 02:30.55 | nsadmin | (as opposed to useradd, which makes a new user) |
| 02:31.10 | petisnnake | oh i see |
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| 02:31.36 | petisnnake | potentially stupid question: how do I check the CPU temperature from shell ? :D |
| 02:31.40 | nsadmin | adduser calls either useradd or usermod depending on what is to be done |
| 02:31.55 | nsadmin | you'd need to install and configure lmsensors |
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| 02:32.50 | petisnnake | I will try and do that, thanks! |
| 02:33.17 | icebrain | you can also use acpi, afaik |
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| 02:33.59 | icebrain | acpi -t -c for celsius, acpi -t -f for fahrenheit |
| 02:34.05 | icebrain | -t -k for kelvin |
| 02:34.21 | petisnnake | oh, excellent, thanks a lot |
| 02:35.19 | petisnnake | it says command not found, but if i do $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature , i get an output of 40 C |
| 02:35.48 | petisnnake | and also I have acpi in /etc/acpi so I wonder why $ acpi -t -c doesnt work |
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| 02:35.55 | petisnnake | nor does $ acpi |
| 02:36.09 | icebrain | /etc/acpi isn't a binary, it's a configuration file |
| 02:36.38 | petisnnake | oh |
| 02:36.40 | petisnnake | thanks |
| 02:37.01 | icebrain | /usr/bin/acpi is from the "acpi" package |
| 02:37.24 | icebrain | but if you don't mind reading from /proc, there's no need to install it |
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| 02:39.12 | petisnnake | im fine with it. thanks a lot! |
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| 02:39.47 | osmosis | any way to reclaim unused space allocated in a qcow2 disk image file?? |
| 02:41.49 | nsadmin | copy the contents into a smaller image file and delete the original? |
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| 02:51.22 | osmosis | is there a way to write all 0's to all unused space on my HD?? |
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| 03:19.42 | Sazpaimon | so like, i want to filter iwlist to WEP networks only |
| 03:22.12 | Bop | only with some script |
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| 03:30.44 | esser | how can i specify in my deb control file that files in this package, which overlap with other packages, are more important, and should go ahead and overwrite? |
| 03:31.10 | un214 | you need to redirect |
| 03:31.25 | un214 | dpkg --redirect |
| 03:31.26 | dpkg | un214: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 03:31.39 | dondelelcaro | esser: uh... you almost never want to actually do that |
| 03:32.02 | esser | dondelelcaro, well, yeah, i do, because i'm pushing custom configuration files for a specific cluster |
| 03:32.07 | dondelelcaro | esser: in some cases, you can divert, but otherwise you need to Conflict: or use alternatives or similar. |
| 03:32.12 | dondelelcaro | esser: which custom configuration files? |
| 03:32.14 | un214 | you do only for local packages, not for distributed ones |
| 03:32.25 | esser | apache configs, mysql, postfix, etc |
| 03:32.50 | dondelelcaro | esser: apache configuration should generally be done by adding files to /etc/apache2/conf.d etc. everything else you can just change directly in your postinst. |
| 03:33.14 | dondelelcaro | esser: though normally you'd want to use things like puppet or etckeeper instead |
| 03:33.19 | esser | yeah i got all that |
| 03:33.34 | esser | but redirecting would be the way to tell it that mine are more important? |
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| 03:33.41 | un214 | yup |
| 03:33.47 | esser | ok thx |
| 03:33.57 | un214 | sorry it's divert not redirect |
| 03:34.16 | esser | haha hence the blank search results |
| 03:34.20 | esser | alright thanks :) |
| 03:34.36 | sameerthahir | dear all, what all do i need to use noveau on debian lenny, |
| 03:34.38 | un214 | anyway using divert on config files = bad idea |
| 03:35.03 | un214 | sameerthair: I believe upgrade the kernel |
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| 03:35.39 | dondelelcaro | esser: you don't divert configuration files |
| 03:35.46 | andares | hey guys, my sound randomly stopped working. |
| 03:35.52 | andares | mplayer segfaults when I try to play anything. |
| 03:35.53 | dondelelcaro | esser: just replace them in the postinst |
| 03:35.57 | andares | and it had been working. |
| 03:35.59 | andares | and I restarted. |
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| 03:36.10 | esser | dondelelcaro, that's actually a really good idea, than i don't get 300 warnings |
| 03:36.13 | esser | perfect, thank you |
| 03:36.34 | andares | oh, odd actually. I can play wav files, but not mp3s. |
| 03:36.52 | Supaplex | that's because mp3 files are more evil. ;) |
| 03:37.14 | andares | lol. |
| 03:37.22 | andares | I think my mplayer is broken somehow. |
| 03:37.26 | andares | not sure why. |
| 03:37.30 | andares | how should I debug it? |
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| 03:37.59 | un214 | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio |
| 03:38.19 | f8l | andares: Try to get newer version first. |
| 03:38.44 | Supaplex | !sound |
| 03:38.44 | dpkg | [sound] Ask me about <alsa>, <install alsa>, <alsa checklist>. See also <devdsp>, <dmix>, <ac97>, <oss4>, <pulseaudio>, <esound>, <rs>, <arts>, <microphone>. |
| 03:38.48 | un214 | whatever happened to /dev/midi? |
| 03:39.07 | andares | un214: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio returns device or resource busy. |
| 03:39.16 | un214 | ah |
| 03:39.19 | andares | as does /dev/dsp. |
| 03:39.21 | un214 | somebody else is using it |
| 03:39.22 | f8l | un214: IIRC there's a kernel module that creates it. |
| 03:39.28 | andares | who else could be using it? |
| 03:39.28 | Supaplex | andares: if wav works and mp3 does not, it's less likely to be a hardware issue |
| 03:39.48 | andares | yeah, but why are those devices busy? |
| 03:39.51 | andares | that makes no sense. |
| 03:40.15 | un214 | because some offender is holding it open while not using it |
| 03:40.19 | andares | oh, chrome locked it somehow. :/ |
| 03:40.26 | Supaplex | lsof can give you an idea. maybe your sound card does not know how to mix multiple streams |
| 03:40.27 | andares | un214: also can't the software multiplex? |
| 03:40.37 | andares | Supaplex: I've mixed them before. |
| 03:40.39 | un214 | not that old legacy interface |
| 03:40.57 | andares | how do I do software mixing then? |
| 03:41.10 | Supaplex | and /dev/dsp is oss (old skewl) |
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| 03:43.47 | andares | ah, I see. |
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| 03:44.47 | Supaplex | alsa has a oss backend, but it's not always reliable in my observation. /query dpkg alsa checklist |
| 03:45.36 | andares | hm, sound on Linux seems kind of haphazard. |
| 03:45.37 | un214 | I just use it for /dev/random check |
| 03:45.58 | un214 | trivial to configure so you can plumb-test your sound easily |
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| 03:48.00 | un214 | what's the best thing to do with infinite mana? |
| 03:48.04 | un214 | infinite mana burn? |
| 03:48.55 | Supaplex | cast a wisdom spell to give you the answer |
| 03:49.19 | un214 | lol |
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| 04:12.00 | un214 | so the PDF exploit is published in a PDF file |
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| 04:25.15 | Zitty | hi all, i'm having some trouble getting vdpau to work with mplayer from debian multimedia experimental |
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| 05:29.29 | jobu | hello, i have a linux partition of 2 gb /cifstest. the file (/test) on the remote windows server is about 4 gb. is it possible to mount via the cmd mount.cifs //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/test /cifstest -o .... the 4 gb into the linux partition cifstest with 2 gb? |
| 05:29.54 | jobu | or do i need at least a partion on my linux of 4 gb? |
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| 06:00.25 | freeone3000 | If I wanted to set up a cross-compilation environment to, say, alpha, is there any package that will help me? |
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| 06:07.28 | dondon` | whenever i 'ifconfig eth0 (address)' all of the routing rules are deleted (netstat -nr). y does it do this and is there a way to have the rules stay? |
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| 06:23.10 | dondelelcaro | dondon`: because you're changing the address, and all of the routes are then invalid |
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| 06:52.08 | freeone3000 | Anyone know where I can get libc6 for alpha? |
| 06:52.42 | freeone3000 | Ah. -udeb, for some reason. Thanks. |
| 06:52.43 | dondelelcaro | freeone3000: from a mirror which distributes alpha packages |
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| 06:54.00 | dondelelcaro | freeone3000: but alpha support is basically discontinued |
| 06:54.18 | dondelelcaro | (alpha hardware hasn't been sold for 6 years) |
| 06:54.43 | freeone3000 | Yeah. I need to build a cross-compiler for an Ultrix system on ALPHA hardware. |
| 06:55.12 | dondelelcaro | actually, I'm lying |
| 06:55.25 | freeone3000 | dpkg-cross is a great help, so I'm going to use that until my programs crash irrecoverably. |
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| 06:56.25 | dondelelcaro | ah, right; on alpha you want libc6.1 |
| 06:57.31 | freeone3000 | Okay, thanks, that got me on the right track. |
| 06:59.16 | dondelelcaro | I think there's a cross-compiling howto somewhere around using qemu |
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| 07:00.34 | freeone3000 | Yeah, that's what I'm following. Doing a fair sight better there than I did trying to cross-compile the vendor-patched 2.7.2. |
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| 08:17.28 | Guest46733 | Hey, all. Long time user of (X)ubuntu, and I'm trying to convert to Debian on a netbook I have. I used unetbootin to install the Debian/XFCE ISO, but it cannot locate drivers for my bcm43xx on installation. Do I need to add them manually to the USB stick in order for them to be recognized during installation? |
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| 08:21.58 | jst | Anyone? |
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| 08:40.30 | jst | Hey, all. Long time user of (X)ubuntu, and I'm trying to convert to Debian on a netbook I have. I used unetbootin to install the Debian/XFCE ISO, but it cannot locate drivers for my bcm43xx on installation. Do I need to add them manually to the USB stick in order for them to be recognized during installation? |
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| 08:42.53 | project2501a | jst: yeah, there is an option in lenny/squeeze to manually load drivers |
| 08:43.15 | project2501a | "load drivers from removable media" |
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| 08:45.40 | jst | project2501a: Right, but I don't know where to find those drivers. :) |
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| 08:47.07 | EddiX | Hey, maybe silly question, but if install Squeeze now, what happens when it gets stable? Will my installation become the new 'testing' or will it become squeeze stable? |
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| 08:49.28 | freeone3000 | Depends on if you refer to your things by name or by release. |
| 08:49.38 | freeone3000 | 'squeeze' will remain squeeze. 'testing' will remain 'testing'. |
| 08:50.13 | EddiX | freeone3000: Ok, so once i install i just have to make sure i use the squeeze repos instead of testing, right? |
| 08:50.35 | jst | project2501a: Do you think I just extract the *.fw files to the root directory of the USB drive? I cannot find documentation for how to do this. |
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| 09:12.22 | crocket | It's so quiet with 876 people |
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| 09:14.27 | WormFood | crocket, don't think all of those are people...I'm sure there are some bots in here too :P |
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| 09:14.47 | crocket | No!!! |
| 09:14.53 | crocket | Robots are replacing people!!!! |
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| 09:15.38 | WormFood | would anyone like to file a bug report on my behalf? I tried, but it never went through, because my IP got blacklisted (because of the bug I want to report) |
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| 09:17.47 | petemc | whats the bug? |
| 09:18.28 | WormFood | package ziproxy is configured by default to be an OPEN PROXY! |
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| 09:20.24 | WormFood | it totally boggles my mind, they allowed the default config file to make it be an open proxy by default.....that isn't just stupid, it is TOTALLY INSANE! |
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| 09:29.42 | WormFood | petemc, did you file that bug, or you checking out my claims? (or doing something else unrelated?) |
| 09:30.25 | petemc | the latter |
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| 09:30.48 | petemc | its saturday morning, im smoking a joint in bed watching tv cookery shows |
| 09:31.28 | WormFood | it is Saturday night, and I can't get any hash until tomorrow (unless someone has some for a reasonable price at the party I'm getting ready to go to) |
| 09:31.55 | WormFood | petemc, it is sad...but I can't find decent weed here...all I can get is hash....I'm tempted to grow my own. |
| 09:32.23 | WormFood | in fact, in the last 3 years, I've only seen weed once....everything else is hash :D |
| 09:33.20 | petemc | sounds like theres a gap in the market |
| 09:33.22 | WormFood | petemc, if you do, or don't file that bug, please send me a /msg and let me know, since I'll be leaving soon. |
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| 09:34.10 | WormFood | I understand in europe, it is hard to get weed, but easy to get hash (I don't know, just reporting what my friend said, I've never been to europe)....in China, that has been my experience. |
| 09:34.21 | petemc | i wont be filing it, you could try (politely) emailing the maintainer |
| 09:35.41 | WormFood | politely? what does that mean? I've never seen that word before :) |
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| 09:36.07 | Bop | polite is with a good common sense , i guess |
| 09:36.07 | petemc | :) |
| 09:36.13 | WormFood | I should send my email in all caps, and tell them how stupid they are for doing that? (I feel like that sometimes) |
| 09:36.51 | WormFood | that is a joke, because I tend to rant about stuff like that, that really pisses me off. |
| 09:37.26 | alkisg_web | The debian installer put an entry for my swap partition in /etc/fstab, but it doesn't get "automounted", i.e. I need to run swapon /dev/sda3 manually to activate swap. Any ideas to get swap automatically activated? |
| 09:38.06 | alkisg_web | This is the fstab line: UUID=ee9cd80a-bdb1-476d-875d-9710ab8f0b55 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 09:38.07 | WormFood | I don't use any swap |
| 09:38.17 | WormFood | just buy more RAM ;) |
| 09:38.47 | alkisg_web | Thank you for the advice but my RAM is onboard, so i can't add any more. |
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| 09:39.31 | WormFood | alkisg_web, I was being sarcastic, but also 1/2 serious....this is the line I have in my fstab for my server with swap enabled --> /dev/xvdb none swap sw 0 0 |
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| 09:40.29 | alkisg_web | Hmm maybe mount -a doesn't work for swap and I need to reboot to see if it automounts... bb in 1'... |
| 09:41.20 | WormFood | my other server has an fstab entry like this --> UUID=f32a23ca-3ce2-463a-9092-91e2b5a4457b none swap sw 0 0, just like you....I suggest you change the UUID=xxx part, to be your partition (ie /dev/sda3), and seeing if that does the trick....or figure out if that is really your UUID, and if not, update it. |
| 09:42.34 | alkisg_web | The UUID was wrong and I updated it half an hour ago, but I only tried `mount -a`, I didn't try to reboot... |
| 09:42.57 | WormFood | oh....I expect when you reboot it will work. |
| 09:43.15 | [Sanyi] | :] |
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| 09:43.39 | alkisg_web | WormFood: yup, that did it, thank you. |
| 09:44.01 | WormFood | great! |
| 09:46.15 | WormFood | my personal computer has 8 gig of ram....I disabled swap after I upgraded it (but I know, I should turn swap back on, so it can pageout unused memory to swap, and keep physical ram free for other things) |
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| 09:51.29 | HackeMate | hi, NX says this insserv: Starting nxserver depends on rc.local and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! |
| 09:51.35 | HackeMate | so nx info says this http://www.nomachine.com/fr/view.php?id=FR11G02291 |
| 09:51.46 | HackeMate | but I don't know what file I need modify to make those changes |
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| 09:57.50 | ov3rmind | nice day "morning" to all |
| 09:58.18 | WormFood | HackeMate, sorry I can't help you...but just to let you know, you're not alone....I need to make a change to my exim config, and this is my 3rd day of trying to figure out what it wants from me. |
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| 09:59.10 | petemc | WormFood: add interface = 1.2.3.4 to /etc/exim4/conf.d/transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp |
| 09:59.24 | WormFood | anywhere? |
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| 09:59.38 | petemc | towards the bottom |
| 10:00.12 | petemc | or just below the driver line, i dont think exim is picky |
| 10:01.28 | WormFood | I tried adding it to another file, but did not seem to work...thanks...testing now. |
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| 10:03.21 | WormFood | thank you, thank you, thank you petemc...that works! (or at least my email went through to gmail) |
| 10:03.34 | petemc | np |
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| 10:14.41 | davidroderick | what are the commands for examing and creating swap file and memory? |
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| 10:17.01 | dutchfish | davidroderick: man swapon |
| 10:17.21 | WormFood | davidroderick, "free" ("free -m" is probably what you really want) to see how much ram/swap you have...mkswap to make the swap file/partition |
| 10:17.26 | dutchfish | davidroderick: cat /proc/meminfo |
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| 10:21.14 | OutOfLine | I have activated text consoles 8-12 in /etc/inittab. What's the syntax for /etc/default/console-setup now? ACTIVE_CONSOLES="/dev/tty[1-6],/dev/[8-12]" or what? |
| 10:21.15 | OutOfLine | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:22.24 | dutchfish | OutOfLine: http://pastebin.com/N1amXZg1 |
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| 10:24.32 | OutOfLine | no, that's just the default, which i want to change |
| 10:24.48 | WormFood | change 1-6 to be 1-12 |
| 10:25.00 | babilen | that would include "7" |
| 10:25.12 | OutOfLine | babilen: exactly |
| 10:25.16 | babilen | maybe something like: ACTIVE_CONSOLES="/dev/tty[1-6,8-12] |
| 10:25.33 | WormFood | you want to allocate everything except console 7? because that is where you want x11 to live? |
| 10:25.34 | babilen | just guessing tho |
| 10:25.54 | OutOfLine | as i have no X on this box, I do not want to try out guesses ;) |
| 10:25.56 | binbash_ | exit |
| 10:26.10 | WormFood | then why not use console 7? |
| 10:26.20 | babilen | yeah |
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| 10:26.38 | dutchfish | be aware if you have ssh -X, 7 is needed |
| 10:26.50 | OutOfLine | in case i ever install X on this box |
| 10:26.51 | shalok | Is there some way to force kwin (kde) to make a window full screen? I've been experimenting with the horde of options in the special 'window/application' settings but they don't seem to do anything... |
| 10:27.11 | petemc | f11 doesnt work? |
| 10:27.12 | WormFood | x11 is not tied to console 7...I personally run mine on console 9 |
| 10:27.29 | dutchfish | WormFood: ic, yes thats possible |
| 10:28.03 | WormFood | why not allocate 1-11, and reserve 12 as potential future X11? |
| 10:28.26 | OutOfLine | WormFood: yes, i know, but i decided to leave 7 free. maybe it seams stupid, but... |
| 10:28.43 | WormFood | no, not stupid...just silly and uninformed ;) |
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| 10:29.14 | WormFood | X11 uses the next free console...usually 1-6 is taken, so 7 is the next free one....this has been my experience, and I've been doing this for years |
| 10:29.20 | OutOfLine | very well possible ;) |
| 10:30.15 | OutOfLine | WormFood: ah, thanks for that info |
| 10:30.26 | WormFood | no problem ;) |
| 10:30.38 | dutchfish | WormFood: nice info, i didnt know that either |
| 10:30.50 | dutchfish | WormFood: thanks |
| 10:30.51 | WormFood | really? I thought it was common knowledge |
| 10:31.22 | WormFood | glad I can be of help :D |
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| 10:33.14 | dutchfish | WormFood: maybe in the old days before woody, it was tied to 7, and never came to put it up to a test that it is actually the first one available. |
| 10:33.53 | WormFood | dutchfish, I'm surprised you didn't know that. You seem to know Debian VERY well. |
| 10:34.10 | dutchfish | WormFood: we all have our blind spots :) |
| 10:34.20 | WormFood | indeed...NOBODY can know everything |
| 10:34.27 | dutchfish | exactly |
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| 10:34.57 | Xanbreon | I have been trying to disable ipv6 in exim4, I put disable_ipv6 = true into /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf then ran update-exim4.conf but i get /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf: 33: disable_ipv6: not found |
| 10:35.13 | hid3 | ipv6 sucks |
| 10:35.14 | Xanbreon | Any idea how to disable ipv6 in exim4? :/ |
| 10:35.16 | dondelelcaro | there's actually been some movement on depending on a particular console for X, etc. |
| 10:35.20 | hid3 | I just blacklist the ipv6 module |
| 10:35.25 | OutOfLine | sorry to be so stubborn, but i'd still be interested in the right syntax for having to separate ranges of text consoles... |
| 10:35.37 | hid3 | Or compile my kernel without ipv6 support |
| 10:35.38 | Xanbreon | I dont even have ipv6 built into my kernel, but exim4 keeps erroring |
| 10:35.57 | hid3 | oh, not sure then :( |
| 10:36.20 | Xanbreon | I have been looking, and thats supposed to be how you disable it |
| 10:36.22 | WormFood | dondelelcaro, it would make sense to me to put it higher than 7...we have keys to easily select 12 different consoles (I know, we can have more than that)....I personally would rather see it in the 9-12 area |
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| 10:37.21 | ivov | i have an executble file which won't run because of the following error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version 'GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found. I'm on debian lenny, basic install. How can I upgrade my libstdc++ to the specified version? |
| 10:37.26 | petemc | Xanbreon: dns_ipv4_lookup = * |
| 10:37.52 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: is /etc/hosts setup correctly, exim4 seams to strugle with it if it isnt |
| 10:38.31 | Xanbreon | dutchfish: I seem to still have the IPv6 stuff in there, should I remove it and try again? |
| 10:38.40 | Xanbreon | petemc: I think I tried that, let me try again |
| 10:38.48 | WormFood | where are the settings that put my laptop to sleep when I close the lid? (I don't want it to do that) |
| 10:39.07 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: only if exim4 is not bind to ipv6 already, otherwise disable ipv6 (you dont need to compile a new kernel) |
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| 10:39.47 | Xanbreon | dutchfish: building kernels is a hobby :P but I removed it |
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| 10:40.31 | Xanbreon | petemc: with that I get /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf: 34: dns_ipv4_lookup: not found |
| 10:40.34 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: furthermore dhcp3 is broken on testing, exim4 chokes on that too |
| 10:40.37 | OutOfLine | the problem is, that i use this script on different machines, some of them have already X on 7. and then there is my muscle memory too |
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| 10:41.04 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: use static scheme if possible, not reserved dhcp |
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| 10:41.14 | Xanbreon | dutchfish: I really dont want exim4 todo but local mail :( |
| 10:41.20 | Xanbreon | *todo anything but |
| 10:41.35 | petemc | Xanbreon: im not sure about using exim4.conf.conf , but the first option you tried should be valid in the main section of the exim config , try putting it somewhere in /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/ |
| 10:41.47 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: why not install postfix then, it works out of the box on testing? |
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| 10:42.05 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: as simple as aptitude install postfix |
| 10:42.15 | WormFood | has been running qmail for over 10 years |
| 10:42.17 | Xanbreon | dutchfish: really? Fantastic, let me purge this annoying chunk of MTA |
| 10:42.17 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: exim4 will then be removed |
| 10:42.47 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: no dont pruge yet, just aptitude install postfix |
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| 10:43.13 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: debian will handle default MTA and remove exim4 automagically |
| 10:43.26 | Xanbreon | dutchfish: Gotcha, its doing that right now :D |
| 10:43.56 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: have fun |
| 10:44.07 | Xanbreon | wee, okies, it seems to be done |
| 10:44.14 | Xanbreon | Thanks dutchfish! |
| 10:44.19 | Xanbreon | and petemc :D |
| 10:44.19 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: yw |
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| 10:44.51 | Xanbreon | Someday I need to fix this so that it can send the popcon mails via gmail >> |
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| 10:45.51 | ivov | is there any way to update gcc to a newer version to avoid /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version 'GLIBCXX_3.4.11' errors? is this possible via aptitude? |
| 10:46.18 | ivov | or can i just upgrade libstdc++6 some other way? |
| 10:46.26 | dondelelcaro | ivov: what are you trying to do? |
| 10:46.47 | ivov | well i'm trying to run an executable file and it has been compiled on a ubuntu 10.10 system |
| 10:46.50 | bAndie9100 | Hi, I wish to mount external HD and optical disks throu IDE-USB adapter. when plugged, /dev/sda appears but can not read on it! |
| 10:46.53 | bokbokbok | can someone suggest an advanced level debian tutorial? i'm interested only in debian-specific tools and conventions, not general linux usage |
| 10:46.59 | dondelelcaro | ivov: so recompile it |
| 10:47.01 | ivov | my debian lenny doesn't have this version of glibc++ |
| 10:47.19 | ivov | hmm yeah, i guess that's an option |
| 10:47.24 | xingu | WormFood: I've been using sendmail since 0.93r6 ;) |
| 10:47.38 | ivov | but upgrading my gcc is difficult or impossible? |
| 10:47.43 | ivov | i'm just curious |
| 10:47.56 | dondelelcaro | ivov: it's pointless, and it isn't going to resolve your problem. |
| 10:48.02 | bAndie9100 | fdisk /dev/sda » Unable to read /dev/sda |
| 10:48.30 | ivov | dondelelcaro: could you explain why it's pointless, i'm a linux beginner and would like to learn |
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| 10:49.18 | dondelelcaro | ivov: because gcc isn't why that excutable isn't running; it's because it was compiled against an entirely different version of libstdc++ |
| 10:49.19 | ivov | it also leads me to a broader question, if I compile something on a certain system and I want to distribute the executable to others, how will I know that they'll be able to run the file? |
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| 10:49.32 | xingu | ivov: statically link it |
| 10:49.33 | dutchfish | ivov: i suggest then to delve into the abys of eglibc first .... |
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| 10:49.59 | ivov | oke, yeah a static link might als be a good idea |
| 10:50.01 | xingu | ivov: or better still distribute the source |
| 10:50.05 | ivov | :p |
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| 10:51.06 | Xanbreon | Anyone using the RSS feed of debian QA? |
| 10:51.11 | ivov | ok, guys thanks for you feedback. I will recompile and distribute source to the different systems |
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| 10:53.21 | babilen | Xanbreon: Why? Do *you* have a problem with it? |
| 10:54.06 | Xanbreon | It works fine, but the entries keep duplicating, so im wondering if its a problem on my end or someone elses |
| 10:54.15 | Xanbreon | -someone else +other end |
| 10:54.19 | hid3 | How can I modify a system user? I want to change the 'Mobile phone' field... |
| 10:55.06 | dondelelcaro | hid3: chfn as that user, though there's no point to change it for system users |
| 10:55.09 | petemc | hid3: chfn , maybe |
| 10:56.06 | hid3 | I need to do it as a particular user? I'm root and I want to change a user's contacts... |
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| 10:56.18 | hid3 | anyway thanks, will try to figure it out myself |
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| 10:56.26 | dondelelcaro | hid3: man chfn; |
| 10:56.30 | babilen | hid3: usermod, chfn, editing /etc/passwd (preferably with vipw) are your options |
| 10:56.47 | hid3 | Thanks! |
| 10:56.59 | hid3 | It seems that you need to give a username for chfn, that's all |
| 10:57.07 | hid3 | Didn't know such great tool exists! |
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| 11:06.06 | bAndie9100 | works on some HDs but never on CDs |
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| 11:15.19 | Mowee | Hey ^^ |
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| 11:22.52 | Dazug | hello |
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| 11:23.36 | stuckey | how can I get syntax highlighting in vim? |
| 11:23.47 | Dazug | stuckey: :syntax on |
| 11:24.28 | Dazug | Someone uses Scotwm ? I have a little problem, I don't have the focus on window. I use the same .conf as my other system which shows focus |
| 11:25.17 | stuckey | Dazug: E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version |
| 11:25.37 | Dazug | stuckey: which is your version ? |
| 11:25.41 | babilen | stuckey: Then install a different vim-* package |
| 11:26.00 | stuckey | babilen: which one? |
| 11:26.18 | babilen | throws a dice |
| 11:26.26 | babilen | stuckey: Ah, vim-gnome |
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| 11:27.06 | babilen | stuckey: Maybe "aptitude show ~n^vim-" will be helpful |
| 11:28.41 | babilen | shalok: http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA#Sharingacardamongmultipleprocesses |
| 11:28.50 | babilen | shalok: Or have a look at pulseaudio |
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| 11:30.06 | petern_ | pretty useless link, that. dmix has been standard for... well, ages. |
| 11:30.33 | stuckey | babilen: still don't know which one I need |
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| 11:35.22 | babilen | stuckey: You have to decide that yourself. If you are using GNOME vim-gnome might be a good idea, if you want to use gvim but don't want gnome bindings, choose vim-gtk. If you just want to use it on the command line choose vim-nox, .... (and so on) |
| 11:35.45 | babilen | stuckey: You definitely *don't* want vim-tiny |
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| 11:36.17 | stuckey | babilen: vim -- are you kidding me? |
| 11:36.36 | babilen | stuckey: No, not at all |
| 11:36.38 | stuckey | I can go to the command line and run vim, but vim wasn't installed. Aptitude install vim installs vim, now I can run vim with syntax highlighting. |
| 11:37.06 | stuckey | So vim is installed but it's a special vim that aptitude didn't know about. |
| 11:37.34 | babilen | no, the "vim" package should have syntax highlighting iirc |
| 11:37.48 | stuckey | babilen: it does |
| 11:37.57 | stuckey | babilen: but that's not what you get by default you get vim prime and it doesn't. |
| 11:38.05 | stuckey | but they have the same name, both are called vim. |
| 11:38.14 | babilen | what? |
| 11:38.21 | stuckey | Exactly. I'm filing a bug report. |
| 11:38.58 | babilen | no, what? â I don't understand "get by default vim prime and it doesn't" |
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| 11:39.54 | stuckey | babilen: Vim has syntax highlighting. But if you haven't installed the vim package, you may still have vim (i.e., you can go to the command line and type vim and you'll get vim) but this vim won't be the full vim (at least it doesn't include things one would normally expect to get with vim). |
| 11:40.00 | stuckey | If you want the real vim, you need to aptitude install vim. |
| 11:40.30 | stuckey | But, if you're not aware of this, you'll be quite confused as to why your vim doesn't have syntax highlighting, etc. when aptitude clearly says that vim does. |
| 11:40.38 | stuckey | You'll need to check around to see that vim isn't really installed and install it. |
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| 11:41.37 | babilen | stuckey: Yes, the reason for that is that the package you are referring to is "vim-tiny" which is not compiled with a lot of features and does not depend on other packages (like plugins) |
| 11:42.55 | kerframil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:43.04 | kerframil | simple, rather |
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| 11:43.57 | stuckey | babilen: Why is this necessary? |
| 11:44.07 | stuckey | babilen: Why not just either not include vim or include it? |
| 11:44.51 | babilen | kerframil: a lot of packages use quilt |
| 11:45.28 | babilen | stuckey: The minimal install does not install vim-* IIRC (lenny at least) |
| 11:45.46 | babilen | you'll get nano and that's it |
| 11:46.11 | kerframil | babilen: I've figured that I can get a single diff from packages.debian.org but that can be hard to digest |
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| 11:46.38 | babilen | kerframil: Take a look at the source package. |
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| 11:46.57 | kerframil | babilen: ok |
| 11:47.20 | kerframil | babilen: is there a bot factoid on that, perchacne? |
| 11:47.46 | babilen | !source package |
| 11:47.46 | dpkg | [source package] a set of files used to make a Debian binary <package>. The main file is the Debian source control file (<dsc>) which lists the other required files; use "dget http://.../foo.dsc" (see <devscripts>) to download the dsc and all referenced files. There is also a <tarball> and (usually) patches in <diff.gz> or <debsrc3.0> format. The dsc contains checksums and is cryptographically signed by the uploader. <policy> <nmg> |
| 11:48.17 | kerframil | babilen: thanks |
| 11:48.20 | Dazug | no one knows for scrotwm? |
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| 11:49.15 | babilen | kerframil: You basically just need a "deb-src" line for every "deb" line in your sources.list and can do something like "apt-get source PKG" or "dget PKG" (if you have devscripts installed) to get hold of Debian's source package |
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| 11:49.54 | babilen | Dazug: Looks like it. I can offer help with wmii, xmonad, awesomewn, fluxbox, but *not* scrotwm |
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| 11:51.03 | Dazug | babilen: lol I have luck today! :) |
| 11:51.22 | babilen | kerframil: Take a look at "debian/patches", read the nmg and http://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt |
| 11:52.40 | shalok | babilen, Ok, I think I found something that enable dmix and shoved it in asound.conf, but I can't figure out how to restart alsa. Suggestions? |
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| 11:52.58 | kerframil | babilen: right, I just found the former - absolutely spot on, thanks. will check the link also. |
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| 11:55.00 | babilen | shalok: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload |
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| 12:01.20 | regenbogenfuesse | Hi. When i $ startx and return to tty1 i see this: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint no Synaptics event device found Query no Synaptics 6003C8 (EE) AlpsPS/2 Gleidpoint Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware |
| 12:02.02 | regenbogenfuesse | (EE) PreInit failed for input device "AlpPS/2 ALPS Glidepoint" |
| 12:02.10 | babilen | regenbogenfuesse: You might want to take a look at the complete log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 12:03.40 | babilen | !tell regenbogenfuesse -about alps |
| 12:04.14 | babilen | regenbogenfuesse: disregard that ... old factoid |
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| 12:05.06 | babilen | bbl |
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| 12:05.24 | regenbogenfuesse | ok :-) |
| 12:06.26 | regenbogenfuesse | /var/log/Xorg.0.log --> http://pastebin.com/j40MfkGC xorg.conf --> http://pastebin.com/JZxmcdRt |
| 12:07.01 | jones | is there a /wc |
| 12:07.04 | jones | whops |
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| 12:07.45 | dutchfish | hi, my aptitude hangs on retrieving bugreports (squeeze/x86_64), is it down? |
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| 12:09.06 | abrotman | dutchfish: tried with a browser? |
| 12:09.32 | abrotman | it works here |
| 12:09.48 | bamba | someone try diaspora? |
| 12:10.04 | dutchfish | abrotman: it does indeed work in my browser, mmm... |
| 12:10.12 | abrotman | bamba: #diaspora ? |
| 12:10.25 | bamba | nobody here |
| 12:10.27 | bamba | :S |
| 12:10.39 | abrotman | 100 people? no one home? |
| 12:10.41 | bamba | and my problem is generic |
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| 12:10.56 | fi9o | When in sid repositories i can find xserver-1.9.X? |
| 12:11.08 | fi9o | Sorry for my english ;) |
| 12:11.42 | abrotman | fi9o: probably after the release of squeeze |
| 12:11.50 | dutchfish | abrotman: i spoke to soon, browsing and querying overviews do work, but access one given bug hangs also. |
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| 12:11.56 | bamba | abrotman, someone helping me now on #diaspora, thx |
| 12:12.20 | fi9o | abrotman: Thanks :) |
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| 12:13.33 | abrotman | dutchfish: works here, just slow |
| 12:13.59 | dutchfish | abrotman: ok, thanks for info |
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| 12:47.43 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 12:47.43 | dpkg | <feerf> ok, the main think that does not work in Woody is that Woody is way too old (like museum now) |
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| 12:48.09 | jelly-hme | fi9o: there's 1.9.2 in experimental. |
| 12:48.17 | jelly-hme | judd: versions xserver-xorg-core |
| 12:48.17 | judd | Package xserver-xorg-core on i386 -- etch: 2:1.1.1-21etch5; etch-security: 2:1.1.1-21etch5; lenny: 2:1.4.2-10.lenny3; squeeze: 2:1.7.7-9; sid: 2:1.7.7-10; experimental: 2:1.9.2-1 |
| 12:48.29 | fi9o | jelly-hme: Ok, thanks i will test it |
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| 13:06.08 | coolguy4 | you know the column of flags that aptitude prints out (what's it called?) with i/v/p etc.... I have a package that has pi next to it.... simultaneously purged and installed? |
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| 13:09.22 | themill | coolguy4: it's currently purged and wants to be installed. |
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| 13:11.01 | themill | coolguy4: The first is the "current state flag" the second is the "action flag". See http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s04s01.html for details. |
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| 13:16.19 | coolguy4 | thanks themill |
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| 13:16.38 | cr33 | hi |
| 13:17.33 | cr33 | i've installed debian 64 bit testing on my laptop and i can't connect to the Internet using wifi card. |
| 13:17.53 | cr33 | what do i do in order to fix this problem? |
| 13:17.54 | abrotman | which wifi card? |
| 13:18.01 | cr33 | mine :D |
| 13:18.03 | cr33 | ehm |
| 13:18.18 | cr33 | abrotman, 10:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) |
| 13:18.22 | cr33 | something like this |
| 13:18.32 | abrotman | !tell cr33 about bcm4312 |
| 13:18.59 | abrotman | you'll need a wired connectoin to get that working .. or a usb drive and a fair amonut of patience |
| 13:19.07 | cr33 | usb drive |
| 13:19.15 | cr33 | i don't have any spare cable |
| 13:19.24 | abrotman | spare? you only need it for like five minutes |
| 13:19.41 | cr33 | i mean i don't have any cable : P |
| 13:20.14 | cr33 | can i download the packages from other OS or something? |
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| 13:20.53 | abrotman | sure .. the tricky part is actually that the package downloads the firmware and extracts it |
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| 13:22.01 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=586441 .. kind of gives you a few hints how to do it manually |
| 13:22.32 | f8l | cr33: Try to install it on a connected computer, and then find the file (probably somewhere in /var/cache), copy it to the same place on target PC and then install the package. May work. |
| 13:23.10 | abrotman | assuming he has another debian computer ? |
| 13:23.14 | f8l | cr33: And by the file I mean the firmware, not the package, though you will need the package too. |
| 13:23.48 | cr33 | i've got 32bit slackware installed |
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| 13:24.14 | f8l | abrotman: Then one of us could do it, but not me. I'm going to eat breakfast now. I can help when I'm done. ;-) |
| 13:24.14 | cr33 | is there any difference between 32bit and 64bit firmware? :P |
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| 13:24.24 | abrotman | cr33: nope |
| 13:24.44 | abrotman | cr33: that bug i pasted above shows how to do it manually .. it's not that hard |
| 13:25.22 | abrotman | cr33: i just had to do this a couple of weeks ago for a mac .. kind of the same situation |
| 13:25.32 | cr33 | ok i'll try |
| 13:26.15 | abrotman | if you really cannot figure it out .. i could get it for you i'm sure |
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| 13:28.49 | cr33 | um, will that work if i just copy the files from /lib/firmware/b43 on my slackware partition to the same dir on debian partition? :P |
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| 13:29.44 | cr33 | assuming these files are the "firmware" |
| 13:29.55 | abrotman | likely, you can try it |
| 13:30.11 | masterkorp | hello |
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| 13:33.02 | cr33 | i don't really understand what i'm doing |
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| 13:35.56 | abrotman | cr33: whihc part of it ? |
| 13:36.27 | cr33 | i mean, i think i've used this tool on slackware, because i've had the same problem |
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| 13:36.59 | cr33 | so these files in /lib/firmware/b43 should be ok? |
| 13:37.04 | cr33 | but then how do i use it |
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| 13:38.17 | abrotman | use the firmware? you don't really .. you either reboot or unload/reload the module |
| 13:38.24 | masterkorp | cr33: welcome to the real world, where no one knows what the hell they are doing :) |
| 13:38.27 | cr33 | ok |
| 13:38.28 | cr33 | :D |
| 13:38.31 | cr33 | masterkorp, :D |
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| 13:39.16 | cr33 | also, the prefix in on that bug page is /lib/firmware, so some files outside b43 dir might be needed :P |
| 13:39.33 | cr33 | so maybe i should copy whole /lib/firmware dir? :p |
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| 13:39.44 | abrotman | cr33: the prefix is .. because the tool then creates a subdir |
| 13:40.14 | cr33 | ok, i'll reboot and check if it works : P |
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| 13:55.33 | cridlandr | Hello everyone |
| 13:56.03 | cridlandr | I'm trying to install Debian on a Sparc Blade |
| 13:56.15 | cridlandr | I'm using Netboot |
| 13:56.17 | cridlandr | and this is working ok |
| 13:56.28 | babilen | great |
| 13:56.34 | cridlandr | It partitions the disc correctly |
| 13:56.52 | babilen | !enter |
| 13:56.52 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 13:57.46 | cridlandr | Sorry. As a professional proof-reader I should know better. |
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| 13:58.07 | babilen | hehe :) |
| 13:58.11 | abrotman | and a total lack of punctuation! |
| 14:00.16 | cridlandr | The installation partitions the disc correctly and then goes on to download 800 odd files for the operating system. It manages to download all the files, but then hangs (i.e. it says 802/802 files loaded and stops). Would anyone be so kind as to know what may be wrong? Many thanks in advance. abrotman, you must not start a sentence with "and" hehe :) |
| 14:00.24 | jelly-hme | tl;dr |
| 14:00.32 | jelly-hme | hides |
| 14:04.15 | babilen | cridlandr: No error on one of the other consoles? |
| 14:05.09 | cridlandr | babilen: I'm sorry, this is not my forte. What do you mean by "other consoles"? |
| 14:06.09 | babilen | cridlandr: Try ALT-F2 (F3....) |
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| 14:07.43 | babilen | was that "ALT-F4"? |
| 14:08.22 | abrotman | criwhere'd he go ? |
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| 14:08.45 | cridlandr | babilen: When I use Alt-F2, it just drops to the command line. |
| 14:09.00 | abrotman | cridlandr: which version of Debian are you installing ? |
| 14:09.05 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 14:11.21 | cridlandr | babilen: Does your comment imply there are further consoles, like Alt-F3, Alt-F4 etc...? If so, I was unaware of this. And I'm using the <enter> key again. AND I'm starting sentences with AND again.... gee. |
| 14:11.38 | abrotman | cridlandr: which version of Debian are you installing ? |
| 14:12.01 | abrotman | so if you talk to him .. his connection gets reset? this could be interesting |
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| 14:15.37 | babilen | haha, wonderful :) |
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| 14:19.06 | jelly-hme | abrotman: that's because he's using sparc. |
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| 14:19.33 | abrotman | or his internet finally died |
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| 14:24.00 | dracula_ | where can i look up for the recent dns cache of dnsmasq? |
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| 14:31.31 | Sary | dracula_, maybe .. /etc/init.d/ |
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| 14:32.19 | abrotman | huh? |
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| 14:33.34 | negge | just noticed someone tried to login as "bin" over SSH, is it wise to deny that user access completely or is it needed for something? |
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| 14:35.30 | petemc | negge: you'll find lots of random usernames attempting to login over ssh |
| 14:36.07 | negge | petemc: but bin is a system user |
| 14:36.14 | negge | don't have a clue what it's used for though |
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| 14:36.36 | negge | and it has a valid shell |
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| 14:37.56 | complete | Good Morning Debian! May the sun shine on your happy faces all day! Im using sshfs, losetup and cryptsetup to mount encrypted partitions over the net. (as described here: www.vidarholen.net/contents/blog/?p=8). But sometimes the connection goes away in a way, that every command executed on the partition (like ls or whatever) stalls forever and all I can do is reboot. Any ideas how to make this more stable? |
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| 14:39.37 | jelly-hme | complete: I don't find sshfs stable enough to be considered as a backend protocol to carry the data for my block devices |
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| 14:40.41 | complete | jelly-hme: what other way could a "mount over the net" be achieved? |
| 14:41.05 | jelly-hme | complete: nfs? nbd? -- assuming a secure channel |
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| 14:42.08 | jelly-hme | complete: I didn't investigate openvpn as a replacement secure channel; but sshfs definitely breaks when the ssh connection is hung |
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| 14:42.43 | cr3 | o hai |
| 14:42.48 | cr3 | i t seems it worked |
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| 14:45.13 | complete | jelly-hme: well, what do you mean with "assuming a securre channel"? |
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| 14:45.43 | complete | I could mount an nfs partition over the net, and then locally mount it with cryptsetup. Do you think thats more stable then the sshfs way? |
| 14:46.07 | jelly-hme | complete: neither nfs v3 or nbd are safe over a public network |
| 14:46.22 | CestSebastian | hi, do you know a good tutorial for installing lamp(php) on a development server? |
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| 14:46.55 | jelly-hme | complete: so you'd need a secure tunnel for that traffic |
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| 14:47.26 | jtmoney | Can someone explain why I need to configure either a CD-ROM or network source if I'm installing from a USB drive? This netbook has no CD-ROM drive, and I cannot seem to properly install the drivers for the network card either. Why should any be needed anyway? All the data that gets installed is on the USB drive already! |
| 14:47.29 | themill | dpkg: tell CestSebastian about lamp |
| 14:47.32 | complete | jelly-hme: i go another way: i use an insecure channel, but mount the partition locally with cryptsetup. so only encrypted data goes over the net. |
| 14:48.04 | Hellz_Bellz | hi i seem to not have any sound and im wondering where to start in fixing thins problem |
| 14:48.20 | Hellz_Bellz | also wireless doesnt work though i installed and modprobed the drivers\ |
| 14:48.36 | Hellz_Bellz | both for b43 and rtl8187 |
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| 14:54.33 | do0ob | Has anyone noticed an increase in the number of Hash Sum mismatches from apt lately? |
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| 14:56.29 | abrotman | do0ob: try another mirror |
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| 14:56.51 | do0ob | abrotman: i have |
| 14:57.31 | do0ob | i mainly started noticing it after i switched to my current ISP and new router, the data is sent over tcp right? so i don't see how it could be corrupted in transit |
| 14:57.41 | cr3 | how do i install java for debian? |
| 14:57.59 | do0ob | cr3: sun java? |
| 14:58.18 | do0ob | cr3: aptitude search java, then install what you need |
| 14:58.35 | abrotman | !tell cr3 about install java |
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| 14:59.35 | themill | do0ob: can you show us your sources.list and the command and output that it gives where you see this problem? (use a pastebin) |
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| 15:01.38 | do0ob | I did an update followed by a full-upgrade and they randomly occur, i currently don't have any packages to upgrade so i can't really test it http://pastebin.ca/2010469 |
| 15:02.02 | do0ob | It happens with both the ox.ac.uk mirrors and the ones given by ftp.debian.org |
| 15:02.27 | do0ob | but i've used ox.ac.uk for years without issues |
| 15:02.56 | Hellz_Bellz | soooooo im assuming no one can help me? |
| 15:04.17 | themill | do0ob: it's either something monkeying with your connection or the mirror is misbehaving. If you're seeing this on multiple mirrors, then I'd guess it's your connection. |
| 15:07.28 | do0ob | themill: if a package has an error it will still remain on the system right? if i can do an md5sum on a package with an error and compare it with another copy i might be closer to finding out what happened |
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| 15:08.15 | themill | do0ob: the .deb would probably be left in /var/cache, yes. You could compare that with wget-ing the package on some other machine. |
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| 15:08.40 | alezakos | ~hi |
| 15:08.40 | apt | hello, alezakos |
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| 15:14.31 | roe | are drive labels case sensitive? |
| 15:14.50 | Hellz_Bellz | i like how everyone ignores people in here |
| 15:15.00 | Hellz_Bellz | its a very helpful channel much better than ubuntu |
| 15:15.27 | Hellz_Bellz | lol 928 people in here |
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| 15:15.49 | themill | Hellz_Bellz: insulting volunteers who may otherwise help you is clearly the best approach. |
| 15:16.15 | Hellz_Bellz | but clearly there has been no help |
| 15:16.17 | themill | roe: I imagine that depends on the filesystem |
| 15:16.49 | themill | Hellz_Bellz: feel free to provide real information. /msg dpkg ask |
| 15:16.50 | roe | themill, ext3 |
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| 15:18.57 | themill | roe: I would be most surprised if that were not case sensitive. |
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| 15:19.37 | roe | well based on my empirical data, I think they are in fact case sensitive, but my tests are not entirely conclusive |
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| 15:20.07 | jtmoney | I'm trying to install stable. It cannot find the driver to my NIC. I found it on Broadcom's web site (.tar.gz format). Where do I place this on the USB drive so it can be loaded during installation? |
| 15:20.26 | themill | roe: but the safest plan is obviously to assume that it is case sensitive in your configuration files and assume that it is case insensitive when setting the labels. |
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| 15:21.44 | Dazug | someone uses scrotwm ? |
| 15:22.18 | jtmoney | Lawalz? Someone named their program "scrotwm?" |
| 15:23.14 | roe | apparently |
| 15:23.28 | jelly-hme | jtmoney: there's also a scrot |
| 15:24.55 | jtmoney | I guess Freud was right. |
| 15:24.57 | Hellz_Bellz | i have followed the instructions here http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x and despite " 0846:4260" being in the supported devices list, after the modprobe there is no interface... dmesg shows that the device is recognized |
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| 15:25.54 | themill | Hellz_Bellz: lenny? squeeze? what kernel? |
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| 15:26.40 | Dazug | jtmoney: before falling in Freud conspiracy, it's W and not U |
| 15:27.01 | themill | so it's just Welsh, then. |
| 15:27.22 | jtmoney | Whatever, pwssy. |
| 15:27.32 | jtmoney | ;) |
| 15:27.50 | Hellz_Bellz | lenny , 2.6.26-686 SMP themill |
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| 15:28.26 | themill | Hellz_Bellz: so the instructions on that page tell you that you need to be running a newer kernel than that. |
| 15:28.27 | Hellz_Bellz | im looking up hoe to upgrade to 2,6,32 |
| 15:28.31 | Hellz_Bellz | how |
| 15:28.50 | themill | the instructions on that page also cover that step, surprisingly. |
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| 15:30.41 | jtmoney | Okay... If I download debian-507-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso, WHY is it asking me to configure my network card before installing? I did NOT download the "netinst" variant. |
| 15:30.48 | Hellz_Bellz | i have it installed but grub .... doesnt list it |
| 15:30.58 | jtmoney | Why can't it just copy everything off the USB drive? |
| 15:31.05 | jtmoney | Why does it need to make an interwebz connection first? |
| 15:31.16 | jelly-hme | jtmoney: it will copy everything off the drive. |
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| 15:31.52 | jtmoney | jelly-hme, not for me. It makes me configure my CD-ROM, network card, etc. (both fail) and then I can only abort the installation. |
| 15:31.53 | themill | jtmoney: the installer wants to check if there are any updates released since the iso was made. |
| 15:32.02 | jtmoney | Ohh. |
| 15:32.26 | jtmoney | Well, that's an issue because neither of my NICs are working under Debian. |
| 15:33.06 | themill | that shouldn't prevent the installation from continuing |
| 15:33.42 | jtmoney | It most certainly does. Let me try again once unetbootin is does and I'll type what the screen says. |
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| 15:33.57 | jtmoney | s/does/done |
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| 15:34.45 | jtmoney | Is there anywhere I can place the drivers on the USB drive so it enables my NICs? |
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| 15:39.35 | themill | jtmoney: what hardware is this? A PCI-Id would be handy if possible .... (lspci -nn) |
| 15:41.18 | Tom01_ | How can I close the DVD tray using GNOME? |
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| 15:41.47 | anoob | !list |
| 15:41.48 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
| 15:41.52 | Tom01_ | I only know how to do it using the shell. |
| 15:42.05 | anoob | !dpkg |
| 15:42.05 | dpkg | dpkg is, like, the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 15:42.22 | xand | Tom01_: press the button or push the tray in when you remove the disc. |
| 15:42.25 | Iridos | !msg the bot |
| 15:42.25 | dpkg | Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help>. Browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ |
| 15:42.31 | themill | anoob: how about asking a question rather than just asking for factoids |
| 15:42.53 | anoob | sorry, i don't know how to use that... is there any help? |
| 15:43.03 | roe | Tom01_, eject -T |
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| 15:43.50 | Tom01_ | Xanthor[aw]: Reaching the button is difficult on Power Mac. |
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| 15:44.21 | Tom01_ | roe: That's from shell. How can I do it with the mouse? |
| 15:44.31 | anoob | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.33 | roe | use the mouse to open a shell? |
| 15:45.08 | Tom01_ | roe: and then ? |
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| 15:45.21 | roe | use the shell to close the tray |
| 15:45.23 | melkor217 | Hi all |
| 15:45.47 | Tom01_ | roe: That is what I am doing. |
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| 15:46.13 | Hellz_Bellz | its saying im running on a live cd |
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| 15:47.52 | Hellz_Bellz | it cant run update-initramfs |
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| 15:49.37 | Iridos | Tom01_, or just click around wildly if you want to stop using the shell... right-click on the representation of the drive on the desktop should throw something up? |
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| 15:54.06 | Iridos | jtmoney, another reason it's asking you for the network stuff is that it's configuring networking for the system in this step... and as said that doesn't prevent the installation from continuing... it just mean you have to configure networking yourself lateron... |
| 15:56.01 | anoob | any ideia about that? my sound doesn't work at all (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57889) |
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| 15:57.05 | Hellz_Bellz | screw this, things should work out of the box |
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| 16:32.38 | anoob | http://forums.debian.net/viewforum.php?f=6 |
| 16:32.43 | Dubai-Two | hi |
| 16:33.53 | Dubai-Two | quick one, i just install debian 506 2.6.26-2-686 on my box do i need to update the kernal and if yes how ? many thanks in advance |
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| 16:35.25 | petemc | Dubai-Two: do you have debian installed already? |
| 16:35.39 | xand | impatience is not a virtue. |
| 16:35.43 | petemc | not quick enough, i guess |
| 16:35.52 | xand | try harder next time ;) |
| 16:35.58 | petemc | hard question to parse |
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| 16:40.43 | jelly-home | !confuse xand |
| 16:40.43 | dpkg | Yes, what are my bacon today, xand? Wellies of the Dictatorship of Swaziland with extra herring. |
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| 16:45.46 | lxsameer | which one of "Source" or "Package" field of control file determine the .deb file name ? |
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| 16:47.03 | themill | lxsameer: Package (and version and arch) |
| 16:47.22 | afuentes | is there a way to know the numbers of the leds on my keyboard to use them with xset led? i tried from 1 to 32 and only one of them works |
| 16:48.22 | lxsameer | themill: what the source roll |
| 16:48.48 | themill | lxsameer: it's the name of the source package |
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| 16:50.19 | lxsameer | themill: aha thanks man |
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| 16:54.13 | zeev | Hi, I have a USB slot on my wifi adsl-modem/router. I would like to plug a USB flash disk in it and use it for backUp. How can I access it from my debian? just give me a couple of keywords for googling, please... |
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| 17:00.16 | dazoe | another question about mirrors... my US hosted debian vps uses ftp.de.debian.org but if i change it to us i get errors with debian-volatile and debian-security |
| 17:00.39 | dazoe | is volatile and security only on the de mirror? |
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| 17:02.11 | themill | that's the only mirror that they are on, yes. You normally use them directly: /msg dpkg volatile ; /msg dpkg security |
| 17:02.46 | Iridos | what? they're in .de? |
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| 17:06.50 | jtmoney | Uhm, so these are my options: "Choose language," "Select a keyboard layout," "Detect and mount CD-ROM" (I don't have one on this netbook), "Load installer components from CD," "Detect network hardware," "Configure the network," "Change debconf priority," "Check the CD-ROM(s) integrity," "Save debug logs," "Execute a shell," and "Abort the installation." |
| 17:06.57 | jtmoney | No where does it say "continue with installation." |
| 17:07.05 | jtmoney | How am I supposed to install Debian like this? |
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| 17:08.00 | karthick87 | Why the user is not allowed to use root account?What harm will happen if i use root account? |
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| 17:09.01 | jtmoney | Anyone? Please I've been trying for two days now. |
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| 17:09.23 | abrotman | karthick87: not allowed where |
| 17:09.38 | abrotman | jtmoney: choose the next step .. |
| 17:09.50 | jtmoney | abrotman, there is none. |
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| 17:10.33 | jtmoney | At the top it says "choose the next step in the install process" but that's it. |
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| 17:11.02 | abrotman | jtmoney: so choose one .. have you done any of the steps? |
| 17:11.24 | jownez_ | running testing, how do i force the nfs server to listen on its fixed default port ? rpcinfo shows 65535 which i guess means random ? |
| 17:11.27 | jtmoney | Yes. |
| 17:11.35 | abrotman | jtmoney: so choose the one after the last one you did |
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| 17:12.01 | jtmoney | I'm installing from a USB drive (used unetbootin to create it). There isn't a CD-ROM drive, and it's not detecting the network connection. It won't allow me to install from the USB drive for some reason. |
| 17:12.16 | jtmoney | Maybe because I'm using unetbootin and/or debian-507-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso? |
| 17:12.42 | abrotman | it's unetbootin |
| 17:12.45 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 17:12.45 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 17:13.24 | jtmoney | Ahh, thank you! |
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| 17:28.26 | superlinux | I just want to make sure, is the MTA the same as the SMTP server? |
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| 17:29.32 | stew | superlinux: yes |
| 17:29.35 | dvs | superlinux: can be. |
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| 17:31.15 | superlinux | stew, so can I call exim an smtp server? |
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| 17:32.50 | abrotman | yes |
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| 17:36.16 | jelly-home | superlinux: a SMTP server is an important and most visible part of a MTA, if you wish |
| 17:37.08 | superlinux | ok thanks guys |
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| 17:39.48 | tmiranda | Hi ... can anyone tell me how can I refresh/reload the LUNs in a iscsi-initiator ? |
| 17:40.53 | superlinux | jelly-home, can you be patient with me? look! i have setup my MX record online to be mail.superlinux.net . I am behind my router. I made port forwarding for email on smtp port 25. now I want to send a test email. what should I tell the exim4-config? internet site; mail is sent and received directly using SMTP |OR| mail sent by smarthost; received via SMTP or fetchmail? |
| 17:41.18 | superlinux | I myself think it must be the 1st option. |
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| 17:42.41 | jelly-home | superlinux: which domain are you configuring to receive mail for? |
| 17:42.45 | jownez_ | if mail.superlinux.net points to your router and you want to receive mail behind it, yes |
| 17:43.36 | stew | superlinux: does your isp allow you to make port 25 connections in both directions? |
| 17:43.37 | superlinux | jownez_, yes! what you are saying, it's pointing to my router |
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| 17:44.00 | superlinux | well , that what I don't know |
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| 17:44.04 | stew | (many, especially for residential service don't) |
| 17:44.36 | superlinux | i just want to make my pc - just to learn email serving - an email server |
| 17:45.22 | jelly-home | superlinux: provided you have a fixed |
| 17:45.46 | jelly-home | superlinux: provided you have a fixed IP address, choose the first option (send and receive directly) |
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| 17:46.17 | jhutchins_lt | superlinux: Smart host is for outbound mail that always goes through your ISP (or something similar). |
| 17:46.26 | stew | and provided that your isp allows port 25 connections |
| 17:46.48 | jhutchins_lt | stew: well, you can use ssmtp for smarthosts too. |
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| 17:47.13 | stew | jhutchins_lt: yes, the question is if he should or not |
| 17:47.14 | jhutchins_lt | suspects stew was commenting on jelly-home's statement. |
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| 17:47.40 | stew | jhutchins_lt: no, i'm directly helping answer his "do i configure this to use a smarthost or not" question |
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| 17:48.58 | superlinux | jhutchins_lt, no ISP must be involved, and It's a DSL line taken from the government |
| 17:49.02 | jelly-home | it can easily be changed later if it doesn't work |
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| 17:49.39 | jownez_ | via dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 17:49.57 | Phantom_Hoover | Noob question: how do I make Debian output sound through an HDMI lead? |
| 17:50.52 | superlinux | jownez_, and jelly-home I am using the exim4-config |
| 17:51.02 | superlinux | jownez_, and jelly-home I am using the exim4-config script |
| 17:51.23 | jownez_ | superlinux: you mean the menu/dialog based setup |
| 17:51.39 | superlinux | yes! |
| 17:51.45 | superlinux | that's it |
| 17:51.50 | jownez_ | thats good |
| 17:51.56 | delby | how do i add desktop launcher (iceweasel for example) in gnome system wide? |
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| 17:52.30 | jelly-home | superlinux: I'm aware of that based on the options you quoted. |
| 17:52.42 | superlinux | yes |
| 17:52.46 | superlinux | 10x |
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| 17:56.13 | tulio | buenas tardes mis panas alguien me puede ayudar como hago que mi maquina reconosca una camara kodak |
| 17:56.19 | abrotman | !es |
| 17:56.20 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 17:59.12 | dimitrios2008 | hi all. I am using lenny. I would like to be able to type text in other languages except English. How can I do this? I am looking for a functionality similar to the windows alt+shift key combination. Any ideas? |
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| 18:05.13 | dimitrios2008 | hi all. I am using lenny. I would like to be able to type text in other languages except English. How can I do this? I am looking for a functionality similar to the windows alt+shift key combination. Any ideas? |
| 18:05.35 | babilen | !repeat |
| 18:05.35 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:05.47 | babilen | !tell dimitrios2008 -about keymap |
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| 18:06.36 | babilen | dimitrios2008: I have additional layouts defined in /etc/default/keyboard (XKBLAYOUT="us,us" \n XKBVARIANT="euro,intl") and can switch between them with ALT-SHIFT |
| 18:06.42 | babilen | dimitrios2008: Are you using a desktop environment like Gnome? If yes, you can configure additional keyboard layouts easily (gnome-control-center â Keyboard â Layout) |
| 18:07.28 | dimitrios2008 | babilen: Thanks. Yes, I am using GNOME. |
| 18:07.53 | babilen | I am not entirely sure if that lets you change layouts with ALT-SHIFT, but it might just do that. (I am not using GNOME) |
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| 18:09.03 | dimitrios2008 | babilen: I am not bothered too much about the alt+shift key combination. If the functionality is there I am more than happy to use it. |
| 18:10.30 | babilen | dimitrios2008: I would just configure additional layouts in the control-center then. I would be surprised if you can't switch between them with some key-combo as well, but I don't know that right now. |
| 18:11.22 | dimitrios2008 | babilen: Where is the control-centre? I had a look at the system drop down menus but it's not there. |
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| 18:13.02 | babilen | dimitrios2008: It is System (top panel) â Preferences â Keyboard â Layouts *OR* ALT-F2 â gnome-control-center â Keyboard â Layouts |
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| 18:14.04 | babilen | dimitrios2008: gnome-control-center is the program that displays Gnome's configuration |
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| 18:17.46 | dimitrios2008 | babilen: I have configured two additional languages and the key combination is 'both alt keys'. I hit both alt keys but nothing changes. |
| 18:17.52 | rahsputin | hi. I connected my PCInetworkcard to my D-Link Wlan Router, and my other PC connects via Wlan to the router <-- only for homenetwork/no internet sharing , the only problem is, i have a gnome-ppp with USB-Modem, and asoon as i # ifup eth1 on the PC that is connect via cable to the router the ppp connection drops, gnome-ppp is still "connected" but no more internet |
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| 18:18.49 | tc_ | hi, I used pppoeconf to setup but can't make my pppoe connection work |
| 18:18.51 | tc_ | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/300311/ |
| 18:18.56 | rahsputin | maybe to long, here is a paste of the Issue: http://pastebin.com/UauLVbgC |
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| 18:19.15 | sacredchao | I am having troubles with network-manager.... I am trying to connect to my Wifi tether on rooted HTC Android, but network-manager seems to want to choose Infastructure mode but the network is clearly an ad-hoc one, and when I try to change the settings of "Auto SSID" in the nm-applet conf, and connect again, it just adds a new entry and changes back.... |
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| 18:21.22 | babilen | dimitrios2008: You should have the layout indicator in the top panel (something like "USA" now) could you click on it and try if that changes the layout? You might also want to change the hotkey for switching between layouts to ALT-SHIFT if you are more comfortable with it. I would also select the other layout as default to try if it is working at all. :) |
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| 18:22.54 | djura-san | holla |
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| 18:23.09 | babilen | welcome |
| 18:23.16 | dimitrios2008 | babilen: success! I type this in English, this in Portugues çã õã and finally his in Greek KαλημÎÏα! Great help. It was there all the time and never put the time to actually use this. I have set the key combination to alt-shift. |
| 18:23.48 | jelly-home | лол |
| 18:23.57 | babilen | dimitrios2008: Wonderful - Have a nice day and enjoy your multi-language keyboard power ;) |
| 18:24.18 | djura-san | hm since im here i have one question: how to render svg icons in gtk? I Use pcmanfm but im not sure which package to use to get svg rendering. |
| 18:24.20 | dimitrios2008 | babilen: thank for this. |
| 18:24.31 | djura-san | (render in real time as in env like gnome) |
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| 18:26.44 | babilen | djura-san: I use inkscape for all my SVG needs |
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| 18:27.27 | djura-san | babilen: hm my question was not good since i got that answer |
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| 18:27.37 | mkad | Hi |
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| 18:28.10 | mkad | how to make ubuntu pendrive installation from Debian ? |
| 18:28.48 | jhutchins_lt | !usb install |
| 18:28.48 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 18:29.01 | babilen | mkad: You want to install Ubuntu or Debian? |
| 18:29.01 | jhutchins_lt | mkad: Oh, wrong channel. |
| 18:29.24 | mkad | babilen, I have debian but I want Ubuntu for my gf |
| 18:29.34 | mkad | babilen, however unetbootin fails to burn that image on my usb |
| 18:29.34 | versuchsanstalt | i want to mirror a site that uses gzip to compress its html. how can i tell wget to unzip every file? or what am i missing? i am trying wget -m -np -k http://example.com/path/ and it won't download any more than just the index file. |
| 18:29.54 | babilen | mkad: I guess that you can use unetbootin, but ask the Ubuntu people as I have absolutely no idea how Ubuntu is installed |
| 18:29.58 | nsadmin | mkad: so for the ubuntu install, that's not handled here |
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| 18:30.32 | versuchsanstalt | ...and wget stores it as gzipped html... |
| 18:30.34 | lenswipe | how do i convert RAW to jpeg? |
| 18:30.55 | versuchsanstalt | lenswipe: try ufraw maybe |
| 18:31.06 | lenswipe | that enables me to open raw files |
| 18:31.26 | versuchsanstalt | lenswipe: so feed it to gimp, then save. or do you have a whole batch? |
| 18:31.37 | lenswipe | i have a whole batch |
| 18:31.39 | versuchsanstalt | oic |
| 18:31.42 | lenswipe | :) |
| 18:31.44 | lenswipe | hence the problem |
| 18:32.04 | versuchsanstalt | dunno |
| 18:32.14 | djura-san | babilen: Icon sets for gtk with svg icons are not rendered in apps. That is my problem :| |
| 18:32.44 | babilen | djura-san: Sorry, no idea |
| 18:32.44 | djura-san | babilen: rendered as in no "Save", "Cut", "Paste" icons from my desired iconset |
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| 18:32.50 | djura-san | babilen: ok :) |
| 18:32.57 | nsadmin | gimp does have scripting languages |
| 18:32.57 | djura-san | anyone? |
| 18:33.04 | tommytwo | Trying to read the Info reference manual in Emacs but it did not install with Emacs, how do I get this reference? |
| 18:33.30 | nsadmin | texinfo? |
| 18:33.34 | abrotman | is there an emacs-docs package? |
| 18:33.55 | stew | emacs23-common-non-dfsg |
| 18:34.03 | stew | depending on which version of emacs |
| 18:34.05 | nsadmin | it may be gfdl with invariant sections, which would make the doc non-free |
| 18:34.10 | stew | it is |
| 18:34.30 | jhutchins_lt | aptitude search emacs | grep doc? |
| 18:34.45 | stew | tommytwo: the emacs documentation isn't in debian since they are not free. they are in separate packages in the non-free repository with "non-dfsg" in the package name |
| 18:34.49 | nsadmin | you want the ref manual about info or about emacs? |
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| 18:37.07 | tommytwo | Thanks, for the feedback now I need to do a little more digging and my homework! |
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| 18:37.36 | nsadmin | what kind of homework? |
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| 18:40.11 | dimitrios2008 | I am off. See you all, around. |
| 18:40.15 | tommytwo | about emacs, homework is more research on what information everyone has provided |
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| 18:41.07 | nsadmin | tommytwo, this non-freeness might figure in. it's basically a disagreement between debian-legal and Richard Stallman |
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| 18:41.38 | nsadmin | and Richard is a bit resentful |
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| 18:43.26 | stew | richard doesn't think documentation is software or that "documentation should be free" the way he thinks "software should be free" |
| 18:43.45 | stew | the emacs documentation has limitations on how you can modify it, making it unsuitable for debian |
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| 18:46.01 | nsadmin | he strategizes, at one point the same reason debian thinks those docs should be free, would have applied to bison at one point, as something it generated was not considered free |
| 18:46.04 | tommytwo | thanks nsadmin and stew for your assistance, this is my first time in using IRC. |
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| 18:47.36 | nsadmin | it looks to me like gfdl is just a strategy to put out things like his manifesto |
| 18:47.45 | Iridos | so you're saying debian is more holy than the pope... kind of |
| 18:47.57 | nsadmin | I never said that :P |
| 18:48.35 | stew | first time in irc? we should give him a propper greeting! |
| 18:48.37 | nsadmin | I said Stallman strategizes, which is true |
| 18:48.41 | stew | !fruitsmite tommytwo |
| 18:48.41 | dpkg | smites tommytwo with a dozen strawberries |
| 18:48.48 | nsadmin | bronx cheer? |
| 18:48.56 | Iridos | oh, I thought that means kick him :-P |
| 18:49.09 | Iridos | _after_ a good dose of abuse |
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| 18:51.20 | tommytwo | looks like my kind of people hangout here and I love strawberries! |
| 18:53.03 | versuchsanstalt | it seems to me that wget won't mirror a site that sends gzipped html files. would somebody please suggest a different tool for mirroring web sites? |
| 18:53.16 | tommytwo | seems like Richard was nice enough to place the emacs reference manual as a pdf on gnu.org, got it and now doing my homework. |
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| 18:59.31 | Iridos | uh, you mean follow links out of gzipped html? |
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| 19:00.57 | Iridos | actually wget does seem to deal with that as long as you're not using a proxy, there was a bug some ages ago |
| 19:01.02 | Iridos | http://www.mail-archive.com/wget@sunsite.dk/msg08646.html |
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| 19:01.37 | Iridos | hm, see here http://osdir.com/ml/bug-wget-gnu/2010-04/msg00037.html |
| 19:02.07 | SPF | on boot, which fs might be candidates for a system check? all defined in /etc/fstab? |
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| 19:02.49 | simonrvn | touch /forcefsck before you reboot will force a check on all of them in fstab (ones marked non-0) |
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| 19:03.02 | stew | SPF: see man fsck and read about the sixth column |
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| 19:03.13 | stew | SPF: err, "man fstab" not "man fsck" |
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| 19:08.08 | SPF | stew: ah, so on boot, multiple processes are accessing /etc/fstab to do their thing. That means if I would remove a hdd device from fstab, it won't be checked for errors on boot. I'm looking into this because I dont want to wait hours for a fsck on large volume hdd arrays |
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| 19:08.41 | bitf | Hi non-Debian user here. Would I report a DFSG non compliant package in the the main repo using the standard bug report email? |
| 19:08.43 | Walex | SPF: you like to live dangerously, very dangerously. |
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| 19:09.27 | SPF | Walex: I prefer to let the OS start first, then check the large volumes. At least I can login and notice that it is running the check |
| 19:09.31 | Walex | SPF: removing a device from '/etc/fstab' is also not necessary to avoid fscking on distributions that are not debian. |
| 19:09.33 | abrotman | bitf: which package is it ? |
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| 19:10.00 | bitf | simutrans and simutrans-data |
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| 19:10.30 | abrotman | why isn't it DFSG-free ? |
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| 19:10.48 | Walex | SPF: that is indeed then a problem specific to Debian unfortunately IIRC. Some genius put some extra login in some crappy startup script. |
| 19:11.01 | petern_ | doesn't the last field in fstab control fscking? |
| 19:11.02 | dimitrios2008 | hi all. What is your favourite ftp client? I am using debian lenny and the Gnome desktop. |
| 19:11.12 | bitf | abrotman: artistic license 1.0 |
| 19:11.16 | abrotman | nautilus does ftp |
| 19:11.20 | jelly-home | petern_: it does. The user was told to rftm and find out about it. |
| 19:11.26 | abrotman | bitf: the artistic license is DFSG-compatible |
| 19:11.33 | nsadmin | efffteeepeee! the original ftw |
| 19:11.35 | petern_ | oh right |
| 19:11.46 | SPF | Walex: extra login? I don't know what you mean |
| 19:11.51 | abrotman | bitf: http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#TheArtisticLicense |
| 19:11.58 | jhutchins_lt | !popcon |
| 19:11.58 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ . Statistics are also available via IRC, /msg judd popcon $package |
| 19:12.02 | Walex | SPF: "extra logic"... |
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| 19:13.12 | jhutchins_lt | SPF: You really should schedule some downtime to check them. I was just speaking with someone who recently lost 6tb of data. |
| 19:13.47 | jhutchins_lt | Walex: filesystem checks at boot are not specific to debian. |
| 19:13.56 | SPF | jhutchins_lt: I already made a script that predicts the next system check |
| 19:13.58 | bitf | abrotman: my bad, thought I had checked that. |
| 19:14.14 | jhutchins_lt | SPF: Cool. |
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| 19:14.29 | dimitrios2008 | abrotman: I 'll give nautilus a try for ftp. |
| 19:14.32 | Walex | jhutchins_lt: but Debian ignores '/etc/fstab's order-of-fsck column and goes ahead regardless |
| 19:14.54 | SPF | jhutchins_lt: but it is annoying that if you start your server, and you cannot login because it is checking 6tb of data ... |
| 19:15.01 | nsadmin | every package in debian?! |
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| 19:15.22 | jhutchins_lt | SPF: Right, which is why you're pro-active and preempt the check by doing it manualy. |
| 19:15.34 | nsadmin | not "debian ignores", be specific. what is reading fstab and ignoring the order? |
| 19:15.35 | Walex | SPF: that is because the elevator/flusher settings are not set by default that well. |
| 19:16.08 | bitf | abrotman: Wikipedia was wrong when I first checked it |
| 19:16.22 | abrotman | bitf: wikipedia |
| 19:16.23 | abrotman | ? |
| 19:16.27 | dimitrios2008 | nsadmin: That's right. Ftp fot the command line. |
| 19:16.29 | SPF | jhutchins_lt: maybe I should extend my script, that it will give me a warning either by email that the system needs to be checked. Hmm, good idea |
| 19:17.00 | dimitrios2008 | Okay, 'nautilus' for a graphical tool and 'ftp' at the command line. Solved... ;-) |
| 19:17.17 | nsadmin | actually |
| 19:17.20 | bitf | abrotman: are you questioning my use of Wikipedia or do you not know what it is? |
| 19:17.23 | nsadmin | you might look at ncftp |
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| 19:17.40 | abrotman | bitf: i'm wondering which article/section in wikipedia you're referring to that was/is wrong |
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| 19:17.45 | dimitrios2008 | nsadmin: why is ncftp any different from ftp? |
| 19:17.55 | nsadmin | take a look and see :) |
| 19:17.57 | dimitrios2008 | curses? |
| 19:18.14 | bitf | it's been fixed now, the version I saw was here: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Artistic_License&oldid=341599471 |
| 19:18.31 | nsadmin | it does have a curses thing, but isn't full-terminal-screen |
| 19:18.37 | dimitrios2008 | nsadmin: Ok I trust your word. I 'll have a look. |
| 19:18.49 | dimitrios2008 | ;-) |
| 19:18.50 | nsadmin | you'd be trusting your sight |
| 19:18.56 | dimitrios2008 | hehe |
| 19:19.01 | nsadmin | which is the way it should be |
| 19:20.02 | abrotman | bitf: oh, you changed it ? |
| 19:20.53 | abrotman | bitf: ah okay, i see |
| 19:21.05 | bitf | abrotman: no and anonymous editor did on the 28th November |
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| 19:22.20 | nsadmin | anonymous editor?! I hate that guy, his writing is so generic... |
| 19:22.54 | lenswipe | nsadmin, in soviet russia, you edit anonymous |
| 19:23.08 | lenswipe | or rather, text edits anonymous |
| 19:23.35 | bitf | you could call him 75.173.195.28 from Colorado Springs |
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| 19:25.27 | Iridos | well, and according to the reference, which is not a real reference, because it's only the debian wiki, which can also pretty much be edited by anyone, it's not so clear |
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| 19:26.33 | Iridos | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ArtisticLicense is probably the authorativeish bit, and it's not really the same as saying "FSF considers it non-free" |
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| 19:33.03 | joe | Hi is there anyone available for help? |
| 19:33.30 | roe | maybe |
| 19:33.43 | bitf | just ask |
| 19:33.49 | roe | !ask |
| 19:33.49 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 19:34.48 | nsadmin | if you don't ask, no one will know if they can help you. also be a sicco: |
| 19:34.51 | nsadmin | !sicco |
| 19:34.51 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
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| 19:37.28 | joe | Hope it's right place. I've booked VPS which is unix based. Loaded Ubuntu karmic on it. Finally to continue I need to run as root user, but it seems that shell doesn't recognize any of cmds at all. Actually in vps provider's site i found that shell is unix based, so maybe you know how i can perform as root ? (I know it's newbie_ |
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| 19:37.52 | roe | what in the world makes you think *this* is the right place? |
| 19:38.05 | joe | have to tryu |
| 19:38.09 | joe | try* |
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| 19:38.16 | nsadmin | he doesn't know whether it is or not |
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| 19:38.42 | roe | joe, try #ubuntu |
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| 19:41.39 | do0ob | ok great now suse is copying us, they're going to try a rolling release too, and we didn't even get a mention, would it hurt to say 'like debian' |
| 19:42.12 | nsadmin | did debian invent rolling releases? |
| 19:42.16 | roe | would that make you feel better? |
| 19:42.36 | nsadmin | s/^/why / |
| 19:42.37 | do0ob | its what makes debian sid special |
| 19:44.01 | do0ob | although debian sid's google chrome is pretty dated, its two versions behind |
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| 19:45.01 | do0ob | oh i get it |
| 19:45.04 | do0ob | google has an official repo |
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| 19:46.18 | roe | sid usually gets backed up when testing is frozen |
| 19:47.07 | do0ob | awww |
| 19:47.13 | do0ob | :( |
| 19:47.24 | do0ob | when will testing thaw? |
| 19:49.13 | eikenberry | testing is thawed when the stable release is made. |
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| 20:00.15 | Kuifje111 | why is the inspircd package broken? |
| 20:00.28 | osmosis | if I do sudo rm file , then realize a made a mistake, ..is there a way to undo? |
| 20:01.05 | jelly-home | osmosis: restore from backup would be the canonical answer |
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| 20:01.51 | osmosis | jelly-home, what is there is a running process still using the file? can I detect the inode from there maybe? |
| 20:02.32 | jelly-home | osmosis: if the file is open, you might be able to access it via /proc/PID/fd/ |
| 20:02.33 | Iridos | depending on the filesystem and the type of file there are different ways to possibly get it back |
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| 20:03.19 | Kuifje111 | I get "dpkg: error processing inspircd (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 7" when installing inspircd and it doesnt work when I run it after the install. |
| 20:04.14 | osmosis | jelly-home, says 9 -> /mnt/slices/pedywin.qcow2 (deleted) |
| 20:04.25 | osmosis | jelly-home, what do I do with that? |
| 20:04.47 | jelly-home | osmosis: hm, that part I'm unsure of... can you cat it? :-) |
| 20:04.48 | khem_ | I get this when trying to compile a program in Debian: |
| 20:04.49 | khem_ | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lglut |
| 20:04.56 | khem_ | What package do I need for that? |
| 20:05.05 | nsadmin | Kuifje111: what is your /etc/debian_version and the version of inspircd you're trying to install |
| 20:05.33 | nsadmin | glut? libglut? *glut-dev? |
| 20:05.38 | jelly-home | khem_: something with lib, glut and ending in -dev. apt-cache search libglut dev |
| 20:05.39 | Kuifje111 | nsadmin: inspircd 1.1.22+dfsg-4, squeeze/sid |
| 20:05.50 | osmosis | jelly-home, yah. maybe I should use dd ? |
| 20:05.57 | khem_ | jelly-home: ahh libglut3-dev thankyou =) |
| 20:06.01 | nsadmin | , versions inspircd |
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| 20:06.03 | judd | Package inspircd on i386 -- etch-backports: 1.1.18+dfsg-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.1.22+dfsg-3; sid: 1.1.22+dfsg-4; squeeze: 1.1.22+dfsg-4 |
| 20:06.03 | khem_ | nsadmin: thankyou too :) |
| 20:06.09 | docgnome | anyone use boinc? it just segfaults every time i try to start it. :-\ |
| 20:06.10 | jelly-home | osmosis: it doesn't matter, use whatever works |
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| 20:06.39 | nsadmin | so, the squeeze version and you're running squeeze? |
| 20:06.51 | Kuifje111 | nsadmin: yes |
| 20:07.19 | nsadmin | there is a way to run the script so it outputs a lotta stuff |
| 20:07.24 | osmosis | jelly-home, awesome! <crossing fingers> |
| 20:08.08 | Kuifje111 | nsadmin: dpkg log gives: "status half-configured inspircd 1.1.22+dfsg-4" |
| 20:08.29 | nsadmin | the top line of the script should tell you what interpreter runs it |
| 20:09.07 | Kuifje111 | nsadmin: ? the init.d script? |
| 20:09.32 | nsadmin | what script returned status code 7? |
| 20:09.59 | Kuifje111 | nsadmin: the init.d script |
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| 20:10.26 | Kuifje111 | nsadmin: "Starting Inspircd... invoke-rc.d: initscript inspircd, action "start" failed." |
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| 20:10.57 | nsadmin | oh, and the postinst script returned 7 |
| 20:11.31 | stuckey | Anyone else noticed flash playback that is jumpy in squeeze? |
| 20:11.43 | Eggdrops | hi how should I upgarde the kernel for debian 5 |
| 20:11.45 | abrotman | works fine for me |
| 20:11.47 | nsadmin | but the startup script also failed (as the postinst called the startup) |
| 20:11.49 | abrotman | Eggdrops: from what to what ? |
| 20:12.43 | nsadmin | what's the rc bug count on squeeze? |
| 20:12.49 | Eggdrops | abrotman from 2.6.26-2-686 to laste one |
| 20:12.56 | abrotman | that is the latest in lenny |
| 20:13.15 | Eggdrops | abrotman thanks |
| 20:13.19 | nsadmin | you could try the backports kernel |
| 20:13.28 | nsadmin | at your own risk :P |
| 20:14.14 | nsadmin | but also note that newer kernels have requirements on userland that might have you upgrading anyway |
| 20:14.50 | Eggdrops | now what I need to do is make debian as getway for my internet, meaning internet line comes to debian box and then share it to my other computer? |
| 20:15.14 | nsadmin | Eggdrops: what interfaces do you have? |
| 20:15.55 | Eggdrops | nsadmin could you please explain what do you mean by interface? |
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| 20:16.17 | abrotman | why would you need a newer kernel for that ? |
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| 20:16.37 | nsadmin | since he's running lenny, I'm thinking ipmasq |
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| 20:17.41 | nsadmin | Eggdrops, a network interface card is hardware which somehow connects a network physically to your box |
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| 20:18.24 | nsadmin | a network interface is a name that refers to either a network interface card or possibly a virtual connection |
| 20:18.36 | stuckey | abrotman: sorta freezes for a half second every now and then here |
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| 20:18.54 | abrotman | sucks for you .. ask adobe why it's broken |
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| 20:20.24 | tc_ | I'm trying to use my second interface (pppd), which is not the default gateway. ping -I ppp0 works, but i.e. wget --bind-address IP doesn't. What am I missing? |
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| 20:25.21 | EddiX | Hi. Does anyone know where I can find a decent wireless setup guide. lspci says my card is a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) |
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| 20:26.05 | blackplague1347 | Hello all. How hard is Debian to use? |
| 20:26.11 | tc_ | very |
| 20:26.20 | rudi_s | Depends. |
| 20:26.48 | nsadmin | Eggdrops when you run ifconfig -a, how many paragraphs do you see? (also, you'll notice each paragraph has a name) |
| 20:27.30 | nsadmin | blackplague1347: depends on what you're doing with it and what your background is |
| 20:27.36 | nsadmin | what do you use now? |
| 20:27.37 | cahoot | EddiX: you want firmware-iwlwifi (non-free) |
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| 20:28.35 | EddiX | cahoot: Great, thanks! I've heard of it before but I just couldn't remember that package. |
| 20:28.51 | jelly-home | blackplague1347: to use, similar to other Linux distros. To configure properly before everything works... it can be a pain. |
| 20:28.55 | dvs | EddiX: http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
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| 20:29.21 | EddiX | dvs: Cheers! |
| 20:30.46 | osmosis | jelly-home, that worked. saved me |
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| 20:31.04 | khem_ | /usr/bin/ld: arith_decoder.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC |
| 20:31.07 | khem_ | arith_decoder.o: could not read symbols: Bad value |
| 20:31.09 | khem_ | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 20:31.25 | khem_ | i changed the CFLAGS to -fPIC in the Makefile but it does not make any difference |
| 20:31.50 | simonrvn | you add the PIC stuff, you don't replace all of them |
| 20:33.25 | khem_ | simonrvn: how do oyu mean? |
| 20:33.28 | pix| | hi, does CONFIG_INOTIFY still exist in the vanilla kernel? If so what are the dependencies because it is always deleted if I use "make oldconfig" so only CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER is active. |
| 20:33.52 | nsadmin | pix|: are you running the vanilla kernel now? |
| 20:34.35 | pix| | nsadmin: yep |
| 20:34.41 | nsadmin | look in /boot |
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| 20:35.22 | nsadmin | all kernels built with the scripts in kernel-package will have their config file placed there when the package is installed |
| 20:35.40 | jelly-home | nsadmin: .config doesn't show dependencies. |
| 20:36.18 | nsadmin | so it would answer the top half |
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| 20:37.04 | jelly-home | /boot/config-2.6.35-trunk-686:CONFIG_INOTIFY=y |
| 20:37.04 | jelly-home | /boot/config-2.6.35-trunk-686:CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER=y |
| 20:37.04 | jelly-home | /boot/config-2.6.36-trunk-686:CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER=y |
| 20:37.19 | jelly-home | (not there in Debian's build of .36) |
| 20:37.41 | khem_ | simonrvn: how could I do that? |
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| 20:49.33 | pix| | nsadmin: well, the new kernel deletes it. Since jelly-home says this option isn't present anymore in debian's .36 build and so in my vanilla .36 build I'd conclude it is obsolete |
| 20:49.39 | tuv | modprobe kvm (or kvm_intel) fails with: "kvm: disagrees about version of symbol smp_ops" "kvm: Unknown symbol smp_ops" in syslog |
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| 20:50.57 | tuv | but if i reboot, it gets loaded automatically on boot |
| 20:53.49 | nsadmin | pix|: thanks for the clarification... hope you find a replacement |
| 20:54.23 | cusco | hi |
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| 20:56.20 | cusco | facebook tells me I have no flash, Im using adobe flash nonfree |
| 20:56.27 | cusco | but I can whatch youtube... |
| 20:56.36 | cusco | anyone knows about this |
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| 20:57.51 | alkisg | In http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences this apt-sources line is mentioned, but it's wrong, can someone tell me the correct one? Do I even need a "non-us" line? |
| 20:57.51 | alkisg | deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free |
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| 20:58.27 | abrotman | !non-us |
| 20:58.27 | dpkg | well, non-us is where we placed software previously unable to hosted within the USA. Changes in legislation mean that post-<Woody>, there is no non-US, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch, Lenny, Squeeze or Sid. Ask me about <crypto> and <crypto in main>. Old non-US packages (for slink, potato, woody) are at archive.debian.org. http://wiki.debian.org/non-US |
| 20:59.02 | alkisg | Thanks, so this wiki page is seriously outdated :) |
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| 21:05.14 | __cool__ | hey! dunno if this is offtopic: i used s2ram, but the system wakes up 'wrong' 1 out of 5 times: no picture (backlight is on). i *can* login via ssh. i *can* 'ps' (without much use). but 'ps a' hangs <- i want to use xrandr to try and reset the display, only it hangs like 'ps a' it seems |
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| 21:06.35 | pipeline | __cool__: try s2disk -- I own no laptop on which both s2ram AND s2disk works, but every one of them behaves well with one or the other. |
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| 21:07.01 | pix| | nsadmin: thank you as well, cya |
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| 21:07.27 | __cool__ | pipeline: i have no swap. can i use s2disk? |
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| 21:07.53 | __cool__ | (and that doesn't help me at the moment to restore *this* session :) |
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| 21:09.25 | jelly-home | __cool__: does changing to the console and back make the video output reappear? |
| 21:09.42 | jelly-home | __cool__: (use chvt in the ssh session) |
| 21:09.46 | __cool__ | pipeline: oh, and btw s2disk is a bad choice, cannot use: on cold start i would have to boot into windows to reinitialize the umts... not an option twice a day :/ |
| 21:11.22 | __cool__ | jelly-home: i'll try. but i don't think i'll work: i just tried s2ram again and it gave fgconsole: getconsolefd: Invalid argument, Switching from vt-1 to vt1, chvt: VT_ACTIVATE: Bad file descriptor, VT_WAITACTIVE: Bad file descriptor, Segmentation fault |
| 21:12.01 | __cool__ | jelly-home: Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console |
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| 21:12.59 | jelly-home | __cool__: nonfree video drivers may be an issue. Also, various usb devices. |
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| 21:14.58 | __cool__ | jelly-home: yeah, it's the poulsbo driver. i suppose it *is* the problem. i just will not accept that there should be no way to force a re-init... and i'm very curious what makes 'ps a' hang. whicht rights does it take and where are they gone? |
| 21:15.42 | jelly-home | "strace ps a" |
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| 21:16.32 | foetus | uhh, debian kernel not bootable -- needs 3dnow on a intel dualcore station.. |
| 21:16.42 | __cool__ | jelly-home: oh, yeah, good idea! thanks: open("/proc/980/cmdline", O_RDONLY) = 6 , read(6, ^C <unfinished ...> |
| 21:16.43 | foetus | :-( |
| 21:17.09 | jelly-home | __cool__: get hardware with better drivers :-| |
| 21:17.26 | jelly-home | (ie. not GMA500) |
| 21:17.51 | foetus | so i need a live cd .. i must use the old piii kernel to build a new one..o man |
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| 21:18.29 | __cool__ | jelly-home: hm, only that doesn't let me see what the proc *is*, even as root it hangs on 'cat cmdline' or 'file exe' int the 980 dir. |
| 21:18.29 | jelly-home | foetus: btw, which Debian kernel says it "needs 3dnow", and what exactly does it say? |
| 21:19.06 | __cool__ | jelly-home: and no, there is no other device with that form factor i think :|| |
| 21:19.14 | foetus | jelly-home: optimized for athlon xp |
| 21:19.24 | jelly-home | __cool__: your kernel is too confused to fetch the data about that process... that this point, I guess only the reset button will recover |
| 21:19.35 | jelly-home | s/that/at/ |
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| 21:20.46 | jelly-home | foetus: oh. that would be a very old Debian kernel, from a release that's not supported any more |
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| 21:21.28 | jelly-home | foetus: you don't have any other kernel apart from that (I'm guessing) -k7 one? |
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| 21:22.07 | PeteMall | I'm trying to jail the ssh/sftp users... what's the best way? |
| 21:22.07 | foetus | jelly-home: no, not woody. its lenny with a handbuilt kernel :-D |
| 21:22.22 | razieliyo | hey, I'm just installing debian testing by netinst and it fails when is downloading the 959 file |
| 21:22.25 | roe | jailing ssh is much tricker than jailing sftp |
| 21:22.32 | razieliyo | I've tried to redownload and reburn the cd |
| 21:22.41 | __cool__ | jelly-home: oki, now i even killed the ssh connectability. will do the magic sysrq thing :/ |
| 21:22.42 | razieliyo | but it spam the same problem |
| 21:22.44 | jelly-home | foetus: oh, it's not really a "debian kernel" then is it? |
| 21:22.50 | PeteMall | roe: I would much rather block ssh and jail sftp... any pointers? |
| 21:23.08 | roe | there are lots of guides on how to jail sftp properly |
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| 21:23.45 | foetus | no, its the original debian source - so i must reconfigure and rebuild the source, np. |
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| 21:26.02 | jelly-home | foetus: or, y'know, use the distro kernel. |
| 21:26.22 | shiftingcontrol | i had downloaded debian cd iso image and burnt using unetBootin in ubuntu and when i tried t boot usb,it showed me wrong cd/dvd image,what can cause this problem ? |
| 21:27.33 | dvs | shiftingcontrol: why couldn't you use k3b to burn the image? |
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| 21:27.44 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 21:27.45 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 21:28.34 | shiftingcontrol | dvs:k3b i have not tried ,withUnetbootin i tried opensuse in dvd it worked out |
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| 21:29.41 | babilen | shiftingcontrol: might be an architecture problem -- please try the method detailed in installation guide (see dpkg's statement above) and report back. Make sure to copy the ISO *file* to the stick and that the architectures match |
| 21:30.09 | rastaval | hello do anyone here who is familiar with psyBNC? |
| 21:30.14 | rastaval | I would like to ask how to connect a psybnc to a proxy server with authentication info |
| 21:30.37 | dvs | oops. i missed the usb part |
| 21:30.47 | shiftingcontrol | babilen:sure,i ll follow the instruction and give a one more try |
| 21:31.37 | babilen | rastaval: You might want to try their forums |
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| 21:35.06 | rastaval | babilen: thanks.. but i have been googling with it |
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| 21:35.12 | rastaval | but never got any answer |
| 21:35.17 | shiftingcontrol | kde vs gnome which is adviced to use |
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| 21:36.42 | foetus | is wondering about curiousity at freenode |
| 21:36.42 | abrotman | shiftingcontrol: try them both, you decide |
| 21:37.11 | shiftingcontrol | abrotman:kde is more lucartive ,gnome is simpleistic |
| 21:37.29 | babilen | rastaval: You might want to try anc (packaged in Debian) |
| 21:37.50 | babilen | rastaval: err, znc :) |
| 21:38.43 | babilen | rastaval: They also have a fairly large channel (here and on efnet) |
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| 21:46.31 | foetus | lets close this terminal.. |
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| 21:47.56 | rastaval | babilen: i would love to try that, but, is is supported with freebsd? |
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| 21:48.13 | jelly-home | freebsd? |
| 21:48.40 | babilen | rastaval: You are aware that you asked in #debian, don't you? |
| 21:48.56 | rastaval | yeah |
| 21:49.07 | rastaval | but you recommend that to me. |
| 21:49.20 | rastaval | that's why i'm asking if it is supported with unix |
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| 21:49.49 | jelly-home | rastaval: asking here makes the assumption you're running the OS that's topical in this channel |
| 21:50.08 | Erbureth | jelly: what about debian-kfreebsd? |
| 21:50.23 | babilen | Erbureth: That would still be Debian and not FreeBSD |
| 21:50.30 | jelly-home | Erbureth: what about it, indeed |
| 21:50.55 | Erbureth | right... |
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| 21:54.04 | hektik | how do you setup your mx record? |
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| 21:56.16 | babilen | hektik: That either depends on your DNS or your registrar |
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| 21:56.39 | hektik | i have a dedi server |
| 21:56.46 | hektik | im in the dedi company contral panel |
| 21:56.51 | hektik | its showing me my mx |
| 21:56.56 | hektik | and then port 10 |
| 21:57.00 | hektik | do i need to set anything else up? |
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| 21:59.05 | jhutchins_lt | hektik: You should contact the company providing you with services, it depends on how they've done things. |
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| 22:02.40 | lenswipe | pokes jhutchins_lt |
| 22:02.48 | ma3x | if i remove root=UUID= .... debian won't boot. how do i enable booting without that uuid option? |
| 22:03.02 | ma3x | i remember i enabled it somehow but can't remember how |
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| 22:03.47 | abrotman | why would you not want it? |
| 22:03.59 | jelly-home | ma3x: you need to tell it where your root partition is. you can use /dev/sdfafvsfs or LABEL=... or UUID=... but you have to use _something_ |
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| 22:04.44 | jelly-home | "Doctor, it hurts when I do this" |
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| 22:04.57 | dvs | then do it again! |
| 22:05.07 | jelly-home | dvs: tell it to ma3x |
| 22:06.08 | ma3x | can i use instead root=/dev/sda1 |
| 22:06.47 | ma3x | and if i run later update-grub will it revert to the old uuid=.... option? |
| 22:06.52 | dvs | ma3x: sure, but if you add a drive it might not work again. |
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| 22:07.06 | alkisg | ma3x: grep UUID /etc/default/grub |
| 22:07.06 | alkisg | # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux |
| 22:07.06 | alkisg | # GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true |
| 22:07.11 | dvs | ma3x: oh, if it's temporary then it's fine |
| 22:07.35 | ma3x | don't have such file /etc/default/grub |
| 22:07.45 | alkisg | Ah, you're still on grub legacy? |
| 22:08.08 | alkisg | Weird, I thought that didn't use uuids... |
| 22:08.23 | jhutchins_lt | alkisg: It does with the backports kernel. |
| 22:08.31 | ma3x | it's in /boot/grub/menu.lst just noticed |
| 22:08.31 | alkisg | Ah, ok |
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| 22:08.34 | Bartzy|work | Hi |
| 22:09.09 | Bartzy|work | if I do some bash command (for... done), and in the end I do a &, it means that when I close my ssh session, this job will die ? |
| 22:09.26 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy|work: Yes. |
| 22:09.36 | Bartzy|work | ok, how can I prevent that ? only 'screen' ? |
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| 22:09.40 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy|work: You need either nohup or screen. |
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| 22:09.53 | Bartzy|work | one better than the other ? |
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| 22:10.33 | alkisg | Or if the script doesn't need stdio, you can run it redirected to /dev/null, and turn shell job control off.. with those restrictions it'll work even if you logout from ssh afaik. |
| 22:11.43 | Bartzy|work | how can I turn shell job control off ? |
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| 22:11.50 | alkisg | disown in bash |
| 22:11.54 | alkisg | set +m in sh I think |
| 22:12.25 | Bartzy|work | so disown my_command is just like nohup my_command ? |
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| 22:13.27 | alkisg | No, it just tells bash not to keep it in the list of jobs that it controls. |
| 22:13.42 | alkisg | Night all |
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| 22:17.28 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy|work: screen is good if you need to reconnect to the job and controll it or see output. |
| 22:17.44 | Bartzy|work | lol I just used nohup without & in the end... had to close the session |
| 22:17.54 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy|work: nohup's pretty good for "batch" type jobs that you just need to run. |
| 22:18.53 | Bartzy|work | OK, got it. thanks for your help :) |
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| 22:22.03 | SpokY | Hello, i need help i tray to compile my new kernel, when i start the compile with: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=Kernel.01 kernel_image |
| 22:22.38 | SpokY | i got this error: drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c: In function '__check_max_cstate': drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c:60: error: 'max_cstate' undeclared (first use in this function) drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c:60: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c:60: error: for each function it appears in.) drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c: At top level: drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c:60: error: 'max_cstat |
| 22:22.45 | SpokY | drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c: In function 'acpi_processor_power_init': drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c:1112: warning: implicit declaration of function 'acpi_processor_setup_cpuidle' make[3]: *** [drivers/acpi/processor_idle.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [drivers/acpi] Error 2 make[1]: *** [drivers] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.18-rt13' make: *** [debian/stamp/build/kernel] Error 2 |
| 22:22.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell SpokY about paste |
| 22:23.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | SpokY: why do you need to compile a new kernel? |
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| 22:23.37 | SpokY | sorry: http://pastebin.com/B55FzNXC |
| 22:23.49 | SpokY | for my gameservers |
| 22:23.56 | SpokY | iam a internet server provider |
| 22:24.06 | SpokY | and we need best fps and more server.. |
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| 22:24.49 | SpokY | @Kamping_Kaiser ich kann auch deutsch |
| 22:25.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | SpokY: its english only in here, but there is #debian-de (probably on irc.debian.org) |
| 22:25.30 | babilen | freenode as well :) |
| 22:25.33 | SpokY | okay thanks, can u help me? |
| 22:25.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | babilen: thanks :) |
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| 22:26.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | SpokY: are you recompiling a debian kernel or building one from scratch? |
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| 22:26.48 | SpokY | i have building from a howto |
| 22:26.56 | babilen | SpokY: I would strongly recommend to use a newer kernel |
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| 22:27.15 | SpokY | mhm but this kernel is optimize for css and 1.6 |
| 22:28.23 | jhutchins_lt | wonders what cascading style sheets have to do with the kernel... |
| 22:28.24 | SpokY | its possible to fix this error? |
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| 22:29.11 | jhutchins_lt | SpokY: Either you've skipped a step in the process or you have bad sourcecode. |
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| 22:30.15 | SpokY | mhm i never have skip a step :S oh bad.. after 3 hours.. i need a new kernel? and begin from the start? |
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| 22:30.47 | babilen | SpokY: 2.6.18 has a bunch of security problems and I doubt that fixes have been backported. |
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| 22:31.20 | SpokY | which kernel i can use for cs 1.6 and css with realtime and 1000 hz .. |
| 22:32.32 | babilen | I am not quite sure what "cs 1.6" and "css" refers to ... probably country-strike |
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| 22:33.10 | SpokY | yes, counter-strike 1.6 and counter-strike:source, i need a gameserver kernel |
| 22:33.33 | SpokY | or maybe can skip this step? and use the kernel ? |
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| 22:39.49 | babilen | SpokY: http://www.calebscreek.com/2009/12/compiling-a-realtime-preempt-rt-kernel-in-debian-50lenny/ (among others) |
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| 22:40.55 | seeker7 | what is the command line to find ip address of my gateway |
| 22:41.11 | babilen | route / ip route |
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| 22:43.32 | babilen | SpokY: http://rt.wiki.kernel.org -- good luck :) |
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| 22:43.57 | seeker7 | babilen: thanks |
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| 23:06.39 | SpokY | ok, now i have compile it succesfull with ur link @babilen, but know i must chose the kernel to boot it or? |
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| 23:10.49 | SpokY | * but now.. |
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| 23:15.34 | sexlady85 | hi |
| 23:16.01 | simonrvn | ih |
| 23:16.32 | jelly-home | simonrvn: "!list" |
| 23:16.53 | simonrvn | yeh, too late... |
| 23:17.49 | sexlady85 | la |
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| 23:19.46 | simonrvn | phew |
| 23:20.51 | jelly-home | no sex ladies named Francesco for you |
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| 23:21.00 | simonrvn | thank goodness |
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| 23:22.42 | phorce1 | is it possible to pad the output of 'du' with '0's in order to sort by size? |
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| 23:24.59 | Kuifje111 | !list |
| 23:25.00 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
| 23:25.12 | Kuifje111 | !search |
| 23:25.13 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <debtags>. |
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| 23:25.25 | Kuifje111 | !search inspircd |
| 23:25.41 | Kuifje111 | !dpkg --list |
| 23:25.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell Kuifje111 about botabuse |
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| 23:26.05 | babilen | phorce1: IIRC you can just sort numerically by the first column |
| 23:26.44 | phorce1 | babilen: I was about to type "never mind". I had a '-h' in my du command line that was screwing things up |
| 23:27.00 | babilen | hehe :) |
| 23:27.51 | babilen | Kuifje111: inspircd is available as a Debian package. Just "aptitude install inspircd" to get it. Note that this is *not* a "warez" channel |
| 23:28.04 | Kuifje111 | haha |
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| 23:31.26 | phorce1 | now if I could just get it to leave OUT the directory sizes and only list individual files inside each directory and subdirectory. I'm trying to clean up an old Windows drive with LOTS of subdirectories |
| 23:33.45 | babilen | like "-aS" or? |
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| 23:35.49 | babilen | phorce1: You might also want to take a look at tools like "baobab" -- I found them *very* usefull for tasks like this |
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| 23:37.20 | babilen | phorce1_: (in case you missed that) : You might also want to take a look at tools like "baobab" -- I found them *very* usefull for tasks like this |
| 23:37.49 | phorce1_ | 2 second power outage and I don't have the DSL modem on the UPS |
| 23:41.09 | phorce1 | I think I'll just zip up the contents for burning to DVD. I'm about 140MiB over single-DVD size and don't want to burn a second disc just for that amount |
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| 23:55.42 | cirwin | is debian.org's DNS broken? |
| 23:56.06 | liable_ | no |
| 23:56.14 | cirwin | hrm |
| 23:56.24 | cirwin | then somewhere between here and there is *sigh* |
| 23:57.00 | daemonkeeper | Well, that is not that difficult to find out |
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| 23:57.46 | cirwin | so my nameservers respond with SERVFAIL, and they are 75.75.75.75 and 75.75.76.76 which apparently are DNSSEC |
| 23:58.00 | Jckf | What are the default permissions for / ? I kinda raped myself with an awry script |
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| 23:59.21 | cirwin | mwhoahaha, /me hax0red his resolv.conf â surely there's a better way? |
| 23:59.23 | Jckf | For everything? |