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| 00:07.09 | jhutchins_lt | KaffeeJunky123: Now you know why it's called "testing". |
| 00:07.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_lt: lies! |
| 00:07.48 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, we're just trying to keep the good stuff away from the general public. |
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| 00:08.20 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_lt: I was more asking if anyone had an Idea how to nail down that problem |
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| 00:09.15 | jhutchins_lt | KaffeeJunky123: I'm not actually familiar with strace, but it seems like wrapping a program in a different program could have an effect on permissions/ownership/environment. |
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| 00:14.16 | xyan | unzip tells me error: cannot create Algo_Ci?n.mp3 Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character. |
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| 00:14.32 | xyan | i tried -U and -UU but it doesnt work out, any chance to get that file extracted? |
| 00:14.42 | KaffeeJunky123 | anyone else around here with squeeze? |
| 00:15.07 | xyan | !poll |
| 00:15.08 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
| 00:15.29 | abrotman | KaffeeJunky123: lots of people |
| 00:15.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: are you one of those and willing to try to use mplayer on a playlist file? |
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| 00:16.55 | abrotman | i don't even know if i have it installed anymore |
| 00:17.06 | abrotman | nope! but i have vlc |
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| 00:17.46 | xyan | ive got mplayer but its from dmm unstable |
| 00:18.24 | KaffeeJunky123 | xyan: MPlayer 1.0rc3-4.4.4 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team is my version |
| 00:18.45 | xyan | MPlayer SVN-r31918 (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team |
| 00:18.47 | abrotman | judd: versions mplayer |
| 00:18.49 | judd | Package mplayer on i386 -- etch: 1.0~rc1-12etch7; etch-security: 1.0~rc1-12etch7; lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3.2; lenny-security: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3.2; etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1; lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny4; sid: 2:1.0~rc3++final.dfsg1-1; squeeze: 2:1.0~rc3++final.dfsg1-1; sid-multimedia: 2:1.0~rc3++svn20100804-0.1; squeeze-multimedia: |
| 00:18.50 | judd | 2:1.0~rc3++svn20100804-0.1; experimental: 2:1.0~rc4~try1.dsfg1-1 |
| 00:19.02 | abrotman | KaffeeJunky123: where did you get that one ? |
| 00:19.16 | abrotman | KaffeeJunky123: you might want to `aptitude update ; aptitude full-upgrade' |
| 00:19.32 | roe | how do I run a command as a user that doesn't have a shell (I am root) |
| 00:19.34 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: looks like it ^^ |
| 00:19.56 | abrotman | roe: su -c user "command" ? |
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| 00:20.12 | stew | su user -c "command" ? |
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| 00:20.38 | abrotman | uhm .. yes :) |
| 00:20.47 | roe | that did it, thanks. |
| 00:20.58 | abrotman | was just trying to keep roe on his toes! |
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| 00:30.01 | enthdegree | what is the package name for xvesa? I can't find it in apt-cache search |
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| 00:30.53 | acemi | enthdegree: xserver-xorg-video-vesa ? |
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| 00:32.54 | enthdegree | thanks! That's oddly hard to google for |
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| 00:33.06 | stew | enthdegree: wait, that's not xvesa |
| 00:33.12 | stew | enthdegree: that's a vesa driver for xorg |
| 00:33.32 | dirkson | Hey all. The /etc/network/interfaces for two computers is identical, yet one can connect to the wifi and the other cannot. What's my next step here? |
| 00:33.33 | stew | enthdegree: i don't believe xvesa is in debian |
| 00:33.54 | roe | I need some help with dhcp+ldap using the debian packages here are my relevant pastes: http://pastebin.com/0cR0maTg and http://pastebin.com/yA4C1qcA |
| 00:33.56 | abrotman | dirkson: look in dmesg for errors ? |
| 00:34.06 | roe | (squeeze not lenny) |
| 00:34.17 | dirkson | abrotman: Good call. Duh :D "wlan0: link is not ready" |
| 00:34.35 | abrotman | you probably want to look why it isn't ready? missing firmware? |
| 00:34.40 | ranix | enthdegree: I think stew is right; I just ran an apt-file search xvesa in Lenny and found no results |
| 00:35.12 | dirkson | abrotman: Possibly! |
| 00:35.12 | enthdegree | Yeah, it says it's already installed. |
| 00:35.26 | stew | enthdegree: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:35.28 | enthdegree | Maybe since I'm only using 32MB RAM I should use directFB instead of x* |
| 00:35.59 | ranix | enthdegree: I personally prefer enabling the framebuffer via a kernel parameter and using the fbdev driver for X |
| 00:36.32 | ranix | it should be no slower than xvesa |
| 00:37.52 | dirkson | abrotman: Ok, no, I've got the correct firmware installed |
| 00:38.44 | enthdegree | Wow, ok. The thing is for some reason my startx broke for some reason. |
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| 00:39.08 | abrotman | dirkson: so look for more info |
| 00:39.09 | dirkson | abrotman: Ok, no, I've got the correct firmware installed |
| 00:41.01 | dirkson | abrotman: dmesg doesn't have much else. I'm not sure where else I should be looking- Ifconfig also doesn't spit out an error |
| 00:41.22 | abrotman | dirkson: do you have the broken one connected via wired LAN ? |
| 00:41.38 | dirkson | abrotman: No, it's a small blue usb dongle |
| 00:41.43 | abrotman | oh .. hrm |
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| 00:42.11 | abrotman | and if you 'ifup' the interface .. what does it say ? |
| 00:42.49 | dirkson | abrotman: It chugs along in the main window like everything was peachy, but is unable to locate or connect to the wifi. dmesg complains that the link is not ready |
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| 00:45.29 | dirkson | Ah! No, there's another error. When I modprobe -r and modprobe it, it complains "zd1211rw 2-6:1.0:error ioread32(cr_reg1): -2" |
| 00:45.45 | ranix | that's interesting |
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| 00:46.50 | supaplex | oops, I mean, ah haaa... |
| 00:46.58 | Accelerator | Could someone please tell me why the heck apt-get is torturing me like this? I'm trying to fix a broken install of MySQL, and it WILL NOT LEAVE ME ALONE. http://pastebin.com/rtdHNGSf |
| 00:47.20 | Accelerator | What possible logical nececery rational explanation would there be for this montrasity ? |
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| 00:47.51 | Accelerator | I'm on the verge of loosing my sanity. |
| 00:47.53 | supaplex | it's an oracle feature? |
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| 00:48.04 | supaplex | looks at the paste |
| 00:48.05 | abrotman | Accelerator: you oculd disable that check |
| 00:48.11 | Accelerator | abrotman, How? |
| 00:48.22 | abrotman | grr, /me already closed the paste |
| 00:48.42 | Accelerator | It wouldn't fully remove MySQL, because it can't establish that connection |
| 00:48.47 | Accelerator | So now it's haunting me permanently |
| 00:48.47 | abrotman | Accelerator: if you `apt-get -f install' .. what is stuck? |
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| 00:49.26 | Accelerator | abrotman, It's the same thing. |
| 00:49.34 | supaplex | and what's line 57 have to do with it? (what's in the log?) |
| 00:50.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | Accelerator: apt-get does have super cow powers to drive you insane |
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| 00:51.00 | Accelerator | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/yHU37XDf |
| 00:51.01 | supaplex | m0OoO0oOO |
| 00:51.24 | abrotman | judd: info psa-imp --release squeeze |
| 00:51.25 | judd | No record of package 'psa-imp' in squeeze/i386. |
| 00:51.29 | abrotman | judd: info psa-imp --release lenny |
| 00:51.31 | judd | No record of package 'psa-imp' in lenny/i386. |
| 00:51.34 | abrotman | where did you get that package? |
| 00:51.42 | ranix | dirkson: do you get different output if you plug it into a different usb port |
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| 00:52.00 | ranix | dirkson: and does the device work in a different machine? |
| 00:52.01 | abrotman | Accelerator: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/psa-imp.postrm .. comment out hte mysql check |
| 00:52.55 | dirkson | ranix: Both excellent questions that I don't have an answer for |
| 00:53.33 | Accelerator | I love using a broken version of vi |
| 00:53.46 | Accelerator | I swear Arch has the spam problem, what's with that. |
| 00:53.53 | Accelerator | Installs a broken version of vi by default |
| 00:53.57 | ranix | dirkson: the source for the driver is here http://zd1211.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/zd1211/trunk/src/ but it's a little deep and there are a few places where it could fail a uread32 |
| 00:53.57 | Accelerator | same* |
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| 00:54.28 | Accelerator | Oh, it already has vim installed. Alright then. |
| 00:55.44 | dirkson | ranix: I'm thinking with so little at stake ($5?) I should just buy another and call it good |
| 00:55.59 | ranix | dirkson: that's what I would do |
| 00:56.17 | ranix | I shelled $30 for one I know will work in linux with no hassle and it was worth every penny |
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| 00:57.00 | abrotman | Accelerator: did you get it going ? whining about vi won't fix the issue :) |
| 00:57.56 | dirkson | ranix: Alternatively, I have an old wifi access point upstairs. Maybe I can flash its firmware and use it like an UBER wifi-thingie |
| 00:58.56 | Accelerator | abrotman, Not yet. It shut up about one part but is still throwing an error, I must be missing something |
| 00:59.06 | abrotman | like mysql? :) |
| 00:59.19 | abrotman | Accelerator: you could put an "exit 0" after the shebang at the top of the script |
| 01:00.11 | Accelerator | and that worked lovely. |
| 01:00.24 | Accelerator | Was any of that crap needed anyways? |
| 01:01.05 | abrotman | no idea what that package even is .. it's not in Debian |
| 01:01.28 | Accelerator | My crack head technicians probably did something. |
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| 01:03.12 | ranix | psa-imp is Parallels Plesk Panel |
| 01:03.39 | ranix | I'd say that sounds absolutely like crackhead technicians |
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| 01:09.30 | innerself | My wireless adapter is a Linksys WUSB54GC which I have found to use Rt73 chipset driver. The firmware is non free though and must be loaded from what I have read. Will this be an issue with net install on debian? |
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| 01:11.56 | yagoo | innerself, rt2x00 http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/RT73USB.html |
| 01:13.22 | yagoo | innerself, should work |
| 01:15.38 | yagoo | innerself, i believe the module would be rt73usb |
| 01:15.49 | yagoo | eh |
| 01:16.49 | abrotman | !tell innerself about installer firmware |
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| 01:19.35 | Chris___ | I need help installing libdlna -- I can't get it to comfile |
| 01:19.41 | Chris___ | compile* |
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| 01:20.06 | abrotman | we need more information |
| 01:20.26 | Chris___ | http://pastie.org/1354172 |
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| 01:20.48 | Chris___ | I feel like I'm just missing some language package or something.. |
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| 01:22.14 | Chris___ | but extensive googling of the above errors has gotten me nowhere.. |
| 01:22.16 | abrotman | you're missing some files .. |
| 01:22.27 | Chris___ | dependencies? |
| 01:23.00 | Chris___ | oh wait, duh, maybe if I'd read.. it's looking in the wrong place |
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| 01:35.13 | pickcoder | judd versions hylafax |
| 01:35.14 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'hylafax' was found in i386. |
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| 01:35.36 | pickcoder | judd versions hylafax-server |
| 01:35.37 | judd | Package hylafax-server on i386 -- etch: 2:4.3.1-7; etch-backports: 2:4.4.4-7~bpo40+1; lenny: 2:4.4.4-10.1; lenny-backports: 2:6.0.5-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2:6.0.5-3; sid: 2:6.0.5-4 |
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| 01:38.31 | katsrc | hello all |
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| 01:38.59 | katsrc | i'm having some issues with Iceweasel, it just hangs when it's exiting and consumes around 50% of the resources. |
| 01:40.04 | katsrc | usually the firefox-bin process |
| 01:40.12 | katsrc | or related xul process |
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| 01:43.47 | Chris___ | ok, new error during compiling: |
| 01:43.47 | Chris___ | profiles.c: In function âdlna_item_get_propertiesâ: |
| 01:43.48 | Chris___ | profiles.c:596: error: âAVCodecContextâ has no member named âbits_per_coded_sampleâ |
| 01:44.03 | Chris___ | google tells me the above string is in fact the correct format. face desk. |
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| 01:57.01 | kunwon1 | NGEN |
| 01:57.12 | phogg | lol @ channel limit |
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| 01:58.27 | Chris___ | ok, I'm on a loss at that above compiling error |
| 01:58.53 | Accelerator | http://pastebin.com/d5SBKgTS Why am I getting this error when I told it to use Plesks repos? |
| 02:00.08 | phogg | Chris___: does the struct in question have such a member? |
| 02:00.16 | stew | Accelerator: /msg dpkg bat |
| 02:01.18 | Accelerator | stew, This is done using an installation script for Plesk |
| 02:01.50 | stew | oh, this is somehting you bought? |
| 02:01.54 | nutron | so, what's the .. recommended "debian" way to put drbd to use under squeeze? |
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| 02:02.01 | Accelerator | More or less. |
| 02:02.02 | pickcoder | arrrrrgh |
| 02:02.05 | pickcoder | shoots a server |
| 02:02.12 | stew | i'm not going to work for them then |
| 02:02.22 | pickcoder | "GRUB GRUB" is beginning to piss me off |
| 02:02.30 | Accelerator | I said more or less meaning I got it from ym server provider who is being lazy right now. |
| 02:02.41 | Accelerator | Not to mention they're not very efficient from what I've seen. |
| 02:02.44 | stew | sounds good |
| 02:02.58 | pickcoder | PXE boot went fine.. setup a primary /boot and swap with a secondary md0 RAID1 mounted as / |
| 02:03.41 | pickcoder | after setting up the partitions I rebooted and restarted the install again so dmraid would work |
| 02:04.43 | pickcoder | I've made 4 coasters already so PXE is about my only install option and this box has be live in the next 2 hours |
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| 02:04.48 | [gnubie] | waves |
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| 02:05.23 | pickcoder | what am I missing here.. |
| 02:05.31 | [gnubie] | any munin users here? could anyone help me here about aggregated stack? this is the graph that is being generated => http://imagebin.ca/view/QhZKJhVk.html |
| 02:05.31 | abrotman | Accelerator: ask them or plesk, Debian didn't break it |
| 02:05.44 | [gnubie] | i'm not sure if that is correct already. what i want is to have the real graphs for each webapp and draw them on its own line in a single graph |
| 02:05.51 | [gnubie] | the graph at http://imagebin.ca/view/QhZKJhVk.html somewhat misleading to me because it looks like that the webapp-06 has the highest hits than any of them |
| 02:05.58 | pickcoder | the installation completed and the system rebooted normally |
| 02:06.08 | ranix | pickcoder: I don't understand your problem |
| 02:06.11 | Accelerator | abrotman, It looks like it's complaining about the debian repos not having the latest version it wants, right? |
| 02:06.14 | pickcoder | PXE install |
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| 02:06.26 | razieliyo | hi |
| 02:06.31 | pickcoder | pass one I setup sda1 to be /boot and sdb1 to be swap |
| 02:06.49 | razieliyo | can I put some external hd mounted when it's plugged in? |
| 02:07.07 | pickcoder | sda2 and sdb2 are dmraid RAID1. I set that up on the first install path and then rebooted after setting up the RAID |
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| 02:07.23 | pickcoder | second install pass when fine and the base system was installed |
| 02:07.29 | pickcoder | s/when/went |
| 02:07.36 | pickcoder | after reboot I'm getting GRUB GRUB |
| 02:07.55 | stew | Accelerator: none of these packages are in the debian repos at all |
| 02:07.58 | ranix | did you chroot into the new install base and run grub-install |
| 02:08.14 | pickcoder | ranix: I used the installer, why should I need to manually install grub? |
| 02:08.21 | ranix | who knows |
| 02:08.26 | pickcoder | ffs |
| 02:08.27 | ranix | you are having a problem |
| 02:08.28 | pickcoder | bbiab |
| 02:08.31 | ranix | so diagnose your problem |
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| 02:08.35 | pickcoder | I don't have time |
| 02:08.40 | ranix | too freakin' bad |
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| 02:09.13 | Accelerator | stew, lovely.. /sigh |
| 02:09.26 | sacredchao | Does anyone know if I can access a microSD card by putting it in a microSD-->SD converter and putting that in a Canon digital camera via USB? |
| 02:10.46 | f00li5h | sacredchao: try it |
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| 02:12.20 | pickcoder | grub-install didn't help |
| 02:12.25 | pickcoder | still digging |
| 02:12.40 | yagoo | sacredchao, try #hardware. |
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| 02:14.11 | Accelerator | "I'm going to check and update you shortly . Please, do not change anything on the server until I'm done working on it " Lol. Then get off your lazy ass and do something. |
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| 02:15.25 | Chris___ | phogg: don't know, not my code, I'm just trying to compile it... |
| 02:15.30 | pickcoder | it boots fine from a super grub disk but refuses to boot from mbr |
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| 02:15.53 | pickcoder | is the second grub notice from stage2? |
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| 02:16.15 | phogg | Chris___: then it's your code now. Start debugging. |
| 02:16.44 | Chris___ | hah |
| 02:17.05 | Chris___ | not really the "support" I was looking for |
| 02:17.59 | phogg | Chris___: you posted a compile time error |
| 02:18.28 | phogg | Chris___: okay, well I don't have the code in front of me. I don't need it compiled. You do. I'll tell you what I'd do in your place: I'd start looking for what the compiler says is wrong. |
| 02:18.38 | phogg | and keep looking and fixing until it makes sense |
| 02:18.57 | phogg | perhaps there's a header file which is of the wrong version. Can't know without looking |
| 02:19.03 | Chris___ | yes. yes I did. in hopes that someone has seen it before, or knows what it means, so that I can fix it and compile the stupid thing which is a dependency to what I want to compile in the first place, ushare. |
| 02:19.08 | Kazuhiro | Where is the best place to drop a report about a packaged dep failure during upgrading the mysql-server package on Sid? |
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| 02:22.10 | shortcircuit | Ok, so how do I remove the missing physical volume? http://pastebin.com/rtHZP4Jc |
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| 02:23.35 | phogg | Chris___: did you do an aptitude build-dep on the library's package? |
| 02:24.48 | Kazuhiro | shortcircuit, have you had a look at pvremove & pvs? |
| 02:24.50 | abrotman | plesk has a support channel |
| 02:25.17 | dondelelcaro | Kazuhiro: report it ot the BTS, though it'd help if you specified precisely what happened. |
| 02:25.36 | razieliyo | I want an external HD to be automounted, what should I use? |
| 02:25.43 | shortcircuit | Kazuhiro: Haven't tried pvs yet, but pvremove: http://pastebin.com/h51cyFrG |
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| 02:26.29 | Chris___ | phogg: I opted to e-mail the dev and ask for his help personally; as for build-dep on the library's package, I don't follow what you mean |
| 02:27.06 | shortcircuit | Hm. pvs says something about an unknown device. http://pastebin.com/jkJUaF2n |
| 02:27.14 | shortcircuit | looks around more. |
| 02:27.21 | phogg | Chris___: I presume that you are compiling some kind of a library whose source you obtained from the debian archive. Is this not the case? |
| 02:27.38 | ranix | apt-get build-dep is an actual command |
| 02:27.40 | pickcoder | I'm stumped. |
| 02:27.50 | ranix | it will download and install the dependencies for the package you intend to build |
| 02:27.53 | ranix | aptitude also does it |
| 02:27.59 | ranix | aptitude build-dep |
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| 02:28.47 | ranix | for example, to build the package tt++ I would do: mkdir tintin; cd tintin; apt-get source tt++; apt-get build-dep tt++; make |
| 02:29.18 | ranix | Chris___: does that help? |
| 02:29.23 | Chris___ | phogg: nope. I'm trying to compile "libdlna", it's a package which serves as a dependency to my main goal, "ushare", a package which can serve as a media server to xbox, ps3, etc, over LAN |
| 02:29.48 | Chris___ | but it's not in the repos |
| 02:29.52 | Chris___ | either of them |
| 02:30.01 | ranix | there are only two |
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| 02:30.24 | pickcoder | I can boot Debian as-is using the super grub CD. I've verified the grub setup is correct and re-run grub-install several times. Still, it refuses to boot from MBR with "GRUB GRUB" as far as it gets |
| 02:30.59 | ranix | pickcoder: manually install grub |
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| 02:31.07 | ranix | from the pxe environment |
| 02:31.09 | pickcoder | if it was an initrd issue then I shouldn't be able to boot from the root at all |
| 02:31.42 | pickcoder | ranix: why? I have grub installed in the base-install with the correct kernel and dmraid setup |
| 02:32.12 | ranix | pickcoder: so that you can ensure it is properly installed |
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| 02:33.07 | ranix | pickcoder: why are you not using md instead of dmraid |
| 02:33.33 | ranix | I'd start diagnosing your problem there |
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| 02:36.04 | ripero | is it possible that /mount/cdrom0/ is not empty even when there's nothing mounted in it? |
| 02:36.06 | ranix | Chris___: I'm looking at the libdlna site now and I don't see any mention of dependencies |
| 02:36.29 | ranix | ah it needs ffmpeg and libupnp |
| 02:36.33 | ranix | and that seems to be it |
| 02:36.44 | pickcoder | I'm using md devices |
| 02:36.52 | pickcoder | running rescue mode first |
| 02:37.01 | ranix | if you're using md why are you also using dmraid |
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| 02:37.51 | ranix | ripero: that's possible |
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| 02:39.09 | pickcoder | I thought dmraid was the device driver |
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| 02:39.38 | pickcoder | PXE boot into rescue, chroot to /dev/md0, grub-install --recheck /dev/sda |
| 02:39.41 | pickcoder | same erorrs |
| 02:40.14 | pickcoder | there's not a whole lot I can do with the grub setup. It's set to hd0,0 properly and the boot config is correct as well |
| 02:40.19 | ranix | what type of array is /dev/md0 |
| 02:40.25 | pickcoder | raid1 |
| 02:40.35 | pickcoder | and I could access it from the PXE rescue shell |
| 02:40.37 | ripero | ranix: thanks... is it safe to remove its contents? (I mean, they are regular files in the partition where /media lives)? |
| 02:41.01 | pickcoder | I can also boot the system just fine with super grub. The system grub menu pops up. |
| 02:41.18 | pickcoder | next option is a system update I guess and a re-install |
| 02:41.19 | ranix | ripero: yes, it should be a regular directory. Beware it's not something remounted bizarrely by checking the output of "mount" first but other than that I see no problems |
| 02:41.46 | ranix | pickcoder: did you assemble /dev/md0 out of sda1 and sdb1? |
| 02:41.53 | pickcoder | no |
| 02:41.56 | pickcoder | sda2 and sdb2 |
| 02:42.05 | pickcoder | sda1 is /boot and sdb1 is swap |
| 02:42.08 | ranix | and then you ran grub-install on /dev/md0? |
| 02:42.15 | pickcoder | no /dev/sda |
| 02:42.19 | pickcoder | MBR |
| 02:42.34 | ranix | why are both disks not identical |
| 02:42.49 | pickcoder | because I need non-RAID boot space |
| 02:42.56 | pickcoder | 20GB off /dev/sda went to boot |
| 02:43.02 | pickcoder | 20GB off /dev/sdb went to swap |
| 02:43.06 | pickcoder | the rest are mirrored |
| 02:43.09 | ranix | a /boot raid1 is valid |
| 02:43.19 | pickcoder | I don't want a raid boot |
| 02:43.22 | pickcoder | too problematic |
| 02:43.24 | ranix | you should |
| 02:43.37 | ranix | both disks in a raid1 should be identical |
| 02:43.43 | ranix | you are setting sail for fail if they are not |
| 02:43.50 | pickcoder | and when md0 blows up I'm screwed with booting options |
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| 02:44.07 | ranix | what type of raid is raid1? |
| 02:44.08 | ranix | a mirror? |
| 02:44.10 | pickcoder | yes |
| 02:44.18 | ranix | then why would you ever not simply be able to remove one drive |
| 02:44.20 | ranix | and still boot |
| 02:44.20 | ripero | ranix: ok, thanks (there is nothing mounted there at the moment; I suppose somebody copied the contents of a cd there trying some sort of hack and forgot about them) |
| 02:44.41 | ranix | take my word for it - raid1 /boot/ is valid |
| 02:44.47 | ranix | and you should do it |
| 02:44.55 | pickcoder | I don't know. I'm about ready to just use one drive and say screw it |
| 02:44.58 | ranix | the array cannot collapse |
| 02:45.02 | ranix | by virtue of being raid1 |
| 02:45.04 | pickcoder | it's gotta be running hylafax within the hour |
| 02:45.23 | ranix | shouldn't have accepted a deadline like that if you didn't understand how RAID works IMO |
| 02:45.24 | pickcoder | unless md kills the kernel as I've seen it do |
| 02:45.35 | pickcoder | I didn't accept a deadline |
| 02:45.38 | pickcoder | FC9 scrapped on me |
| 02:45.49 | pickcoder | I'm trying to reinstall under Debian |
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| 02:47.51 | ripero | [somebody=me] |
| 02:48.12 | ripero | [[in an alternate dimension]] |
| 02:48.36 | ranix | I have prior done such a thing with a DVD and accidentally filled the root partition |
| 02:48.41 | ranix | mysql was very upset with me |
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| 02:52.11 | ripero | I am not having big problems, it just makes me feel uncomfortable |
| 02:52.23 | pickcoder | the most frustrating thing with the installer is that you can't tell it to forget about raid/lvm setups. You have to delete the partitions manually and then reboot and start over. |
| 02:53.07 | ranix | or you can switch to the next virtual terminal and do it manually like I suggested at 18:30 |
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| 02:57.01 | pickcoder | you can't clear the LVM config in memory without restarting |
| 02:57.33 | pickcoder | RAID it may be possible. never tried doing that, but then again I don't typically rely on softRAID |
| 02:58.20 | pickcoder | if this single disk install fails then I think I'll be hunting for a fax machine for the night |
| 02:59.36 | razieliyo | killer klowns rulez |
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| 02:59.55 | omgwtfbbqhax | cool story |
| 03:00.16 | ripero | thanks all, bye! |
| 03:00.17 | razieliyo | omgwtfbbqhax, do you mean killer klowns? |
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| 03:00.23 | dvs | huh? |
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| 03:08.14 | pickcoder | I/O errors.. nice. It's either the disk or the MB |
| 03:08.57 | omgwtfbbqhax | razieliyo: yes |
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| 03:21.47 | pickcoder | *sigh*... GRUB GRUB again |
| 03:21.54 | pickcoder | single disk setup, new HDD |
| 03:22.06 | pickcoder | gotta be the MB |
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| 03:28.29 | pickcoder | stupid BIOS was booting disk2 instead of disk1 |
| 03:29.00 | CaT[t3] | it was looking for love in all the wrong places... |
| 03:29.07 | dvs | shoots the BIOS |
| 03:29.14 | pickcoder | yeah ignorantly |
| 03:29.33 | pickcoder | I have no idea how a boot record ended up on sdb |
| 03:29.45 | supaplex | !blame the BIOS |
| 03:29.45 | dpkg | blames ksx4system and the BIOS for all the evil in the world |
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| 03:35.12 | pickcoder | foo: you can use the CUPS web tool on :88 if it's enabled in CUPS |
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| 03:37.00 | foo | pickcoder: hmm, thanks, was there another tool? I think the one I used many years ago wasn't web-based. /me can't remember the name |
| 03:38.04 | pickcoder | lpadmin? |
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| 03:44.17 | razieliyo | omgwtfbbqhax, yeah |
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| 03:46.04 | omgwtfbbqhax | ugh what? i forgot |
| 03:46.26 | Fare | Is this the right place to ask for help regarding making a package? |
| 03:46.41 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 03:46.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org. |
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| 03:55.09 | abrotman | innerself: /msg dpkg installer firmware |
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| 04:22.27 | debianoob | anyone here know samba a bit |
| 04:22.38 | debianoob | to quite there at #samba |
| 04:22.57 | Dewi | debianoob: sure |
| 04:23.06 | Dewi | (don't ask to ask :P) |
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| 04:24.16 | debianoob | right, ok do I need to have users added to the 'write list' even for their home directories (when security is set to USER)? |
| 04:24.42 | debianoob | i can browse home but not write |
| 04:25.10 | debianoob | and i add user to write list then he can write... i didnt know that you had to do that.. |
| 04:26.19 | debianoob | tia, and thanks for reading |
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| 04:29.11 | goonterp | how I can I get teh latest versin of rubygems |
| 04:29.15 | goonterp | I use lenny |
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| 04:32.53 | Sudos | I have a Compaq Presario EZ2605 I moved some drives over to with Lenny installed. System works fine, but when the startup scripts start churning, the system beeps in the tones of G,C,G,C and the lights atop the unit blink. the beeping occurs 10 minutes later once again. The entire time, the "digital dashboard" as the Compaq's manual calls it displays a smiley Q face and says PUSH TO RESTART. |
| 04:32.58 | debianoob | goonterp: it wont update |
| 04:33.04 | debianoob | ^^? |
| 04:33.25 | stew | goonterp: what do you mean by latest? |
| 04:33.28 | Sudos | the unit still functions normally other than which I said happens atop the unit. |
| 04:34.07 | debianoob | Sudos: that is awesome |
| 04:34.34 | Sudos | Here's a picture of the unit with said symptom: http://ompldr.org/vNmdpNw/DSC05340-unedited.jpg |
| 04:34.35 | debianoob | i wish my laptop made random beeps and blinking |
| 04:34.59 | Sudos | D: it's a really sad thing and the beeping is annoying. |
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| 04:35.36 | Sudos | but hey- it can't be any more annoying than if I backed up too fast on my T4800CT with Sarge. that's a doozy in itself. |
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| 04:36.44 | debianoob | if the panel is nonfunctional otherwise and you do not use windoze anymore, why not unplug it entirely |
| 04:36.56 | Sudos | because said panel also controls the power button. |
| 04:37.05 | debianoob | bypas that :D |
| 04:37.22 | debianoob | time to get tou teh dremmel tool |
| 04:37.27 | Sudos | proprietary connector, sadly. and I don't have the tools to deal with it. |
| 04:37.46 | Sudos | as in, the multimeter needed to find the power button wires. |
| 04:39.33 | debianoob | the thing is those types of panely only work with windows and then only after some driver is installed |
| 04:39.43 | Sudos | I'm just trying to _not_ have to physically modify the machine in any which way, as it's looking like something softwarewise that's doing this. if I figure out what is ticking the poor thing off I can possibly figure out how to make said display say something or do some sort of animation or have a light blink on some sort of activity. |
| 04:40.01 | Sudos | debianoob: there's no driver listed on HP's website for it. |
| 04:40.16 | Sudos | and the documentation online and on the internet elsewhere show no driver needed for such. |
| 04:40.25 | debianoob | because without programming driver or someone else that might be tough, but i dunno |
| 04:40.39 | debianoob | hmm gotcha... |
| 04:40.49 | Sudos | I believe there's a certain call made for it from a program. |
| 04:41.10 | debianoob | my compaq 'q?' button never worked after i reinstall windows lol |
| 04:41.13 | Sudos | the startup says something about not being able to assign something for a device on IRQ12, an IRQ not modifiable in the BIOS. |
| 04:41.54 | Sudos | I always used some sort of remap program to make that Q key do something fun when I pressed it |
| 04:42.28 | Sudos | no, wait, those were the Gateway keyboards |
| 04:42.42 | debianoob | ill tell you what, you can find some more information in the wiki of a certain other distro... |
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| 04:43.07 | debianoob | i know there is a way to see what pushing those buttons does if anything... |
| 04:43.17 | debianoob | usually it is only the most basic stuff |
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| 04:44.00 | Sudos | yeah. this isn't using a Compaq keyboard though. I was given the machine and only the machine. |
| 04:44.13 | Sudos | just some generic USB keyboard I have lying around for just such an occasion. |
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| 04:47.50 | Sudos | I... I found it! I found the software for such. |
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| 04:47.54 | Sudos | the panel*. |
| 04:48.13 | debianoob | ok whats that |
| 04:48.13 | Sudos | under a different EZ2xxx model number, though. |
| 04:48.20 | Sudos | interestin. Hold a sec. |
| 04:48.32 | debianoob | ok try this to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hotkeys |
| 04:48.36 | Sudos | http://goo.gl/ikFSa |
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| 04:49.09 | debianoob | wow yeah you found the windows driver |
| 04:49.30 | Sudos | I think it's just software. |
| 04:50.01 | Sudos | in Win9x/ME the system had much more control over hardware calls without actual drivers because it was built over MS-DOS. |
| 04:51.00 | Sudos | in NT4/Win2k/XP/Vista/7 some sort of driver is needed to access hardware. |
| 04:51.10 | Sudos | I'm gonna extract the contents and see what it is. |
| 04:52.50 | debianoob | right and it says it's software.. makes you want to install Win ME |
| 04:53.49 | Sudos | bleh. |
| 04:53.50 | rubin110_ | I am getting a ton of dhclient: DHCPREQUEST messages in my syslog, the renewal time is typically around 120 seconds. |
| 04:54.00 | rubin110_ | This is an interface hooked up to my DSL ISP. |
| 04:54.04 | Sudos | I already have one device running Windows ME; that's enough. |
| 04:54.12 | rubin110_ | Is that renewal time something I've set or something my ISP has set and I just need to deal with it? |
| 04:54.14 | Sudos | in fact, that's too much. |
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| 04:55.08 | goonterp | stew: it wont let me install the geoplanet |
| 04:55.12 | goonterp | package |
| 04:55.28 | goonterp | I do gem install geoplanet |
| 04:56.08 | debianoob | goonterp: Lenny -> Squeeze? |
| 04:56.37 | goonterp | i am in lenny .. why should I install Squeeze, might not boot |
| 04:56.55 | debianoob | right, if not careful |
| 04:57.32 | debianoob | actually may not need to im not sure |
| 04:59.19 | debianoob | Sudos: maybe you can check the connector, is it a ribbon cable? |
| 05:00.13 | Sudos | it's a rubbon cable, 9 pins, looks exactly like a USB connector. |
| 05:00.20 | Sudos | but there's nothing about it in lsusb. |
| 05:01.06 | debianoob | right.. |
| 05:02.02 | debianoob | it is likely the one end is power switch |
| 05:02.36 | debianoob | maybe inn same row like normal |
| 05:02.54 | Sudos | Probably |
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| 05:05.12 | JordiGH | So I figured out that this lappy needs broadcom-sta-* in order to work, which I hope can be installed with m-a. Is there a way to get that into d-i, or should I do a wireful install first? |
| 05:05.36 | Sudos | I found a rather interesting post describing the entire board of the display in detail: http://www.lcdstudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8595&sid=25794f3d01b98e82b4b29c242dab8ec6 |
| 05:07.08 | Sudos | I'll keep you posted, debianoob- I'm going to try a couple of the other models in the EZ2*** line for support information and possibly clues with anyone running some sort of GNU/Linux distro on it. |
| 05:07.14 | Sudos | there HAS to be someone. |
| 05:07.22 | Sudos | (I can't be the only one ;__; ) |
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| 05:09.19 | JordiGH | There can only be one! |
| 05:09.59 | debianoob | Sudos: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Shutdown_Pressing_Power_Button |
| 05:11.22 | debianoob | Sudos: yeah, i hear ya.. im sure people have tried... maybe try fedora lol :D |
| 05:12.20 | debianoob | i could not handle fedora for more than day.. so if i had to run fedora to make it workm, i would end up unplugging it :D |
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| 05:16.03 | debianoob | is anyone having using the cuts |
| 05:16.18 | debianoob | haviong *problems^^ |
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| 05:16.35 | debianoob | i want ot try |
| 05:17.25 | debianoob | how should i get sarted because i only hear of this recently |
| 05:18.29 | debianoob | Sudos: I know why it isnt working, that is a papre shredder my friend... |
| 05:18.45 | debianoob | you have confused it for a computer |
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| 05:19.34 | debianoob | (kinda looks like one :) |
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| 05:36.06 | Sudos | <debianoob> Sudos: I know why it isnt working, that is a papre shredder my friend... <debianoob> you have confused it for a computer <-- it's a machine I'm using solely for serving up webpages and filestorage, as well as usage as an SSH tunnel where needed. |
| 05:36.12 | Sudos | Currently it's text-only |
| 05:36.29 | Sudos | I don't need anything else bloating it up. |
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| 07:07.26 | project2501a | hey guys |
| 07:07.34 | project2501a | which are the qt core packages? |
| 07:07.40 | project2501a | qt3, even |
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| 07:25.13 | xro | hi, i have a big problem... i would like to restore a mysql backup.... (it's a mysql dump and compressed with gz)... When i try to do gzip -d myfile.gz i get "unexpected end of file"... What it means? i there a solution? |
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| 07:26.36 | project2501a | xro: it means that your compressed file is corrupted |
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| 07:27.45 | xro | project2501a, no way to correct ir? |
| 07:27.54 | project2501a | not really |
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| 07:28.20 | project2501a | licks jelly-hme |
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| 07:29.10 | project2501a | which are the qt3 core packages? |
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| 07:39.09 | xro | project2501a, and if a really need this file? there is still no way? |
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| 07:39.40 | project2501a | xro: it has been nice knowing you tawarich |
| 07:40.06 | xro | project2501a, tawaric? |
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| 07:40.25 | project2501a | volupski for "comrade" |
| 07:40.26 | fenugreek | rkhshm: in /usr/portage/distfiles/, if you've emerged it recently (or now if you emerge -Of dbus) |
| 07:40.43 | project2501a | fenugreek? |
| 07:40.54 | project2501a | slaps Agiofws |
| 07:40.56 | fenugreek | project2501a: yes? |
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| 07:41.02 | project2501a | fenugreek: are you greek? |
| 07:41.21 | Agiofws | ? |
| 07:41.22 | fenugreek | no, but I do appreciate a good olive |
| 07:41.37 | project2501a | Agiofws: giati mwrh den erxesai pia #linuxhelp? |
| 07:42.10 | Agiofws | giati einai malakes |
| 07:42.21 | project2501a | dedwmeno auto. |
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| 07:42.39 | Agiofws | sou aresei na asxolise me malakes ? |
| 07:43.16 | project2501a | oxi, alla exei fash na blepeis to Fuzz na kanei ton eksypno |
| 07:43.30 | project2501a | oti kai kala "egw gamw" |
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| 07:43.39 | project2501a | kai to mono pou gamei einai th malakw thn arxaiologo |
| 07:43.59 | rubin110_ | When I try to start nfs-kernel-server I get this error... |
| 07:44.00 | rubin110_ | Starting NFS kernel daemon: nfsdrpc.nfsd: Setting version failed: errno 16 (Device or resource busy) |
| 07:44.05 | rubin110_ | http://rubin110.pastebin.com/YDTu8TyV |
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| 07:44.19 | rubin110_ | It was working a minute ago, not too sure what I did wrong. |
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| 07:44.30 | Agiofws | einai pio kala edw ... sto freenode |
| 07:44.48 | project2501a | greeks take over freenode. news at 11. |
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| 07:45.01 | project2501a | oh yeah, give us a credit line while you are at it |
| 07:45.14 | fenugreek | oh no wonder, wrong channel |
| 07:45.20 | project2501a | lol |
| 07:45.22 | fenugreek | rkhshm: how about apt-src =D |
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| 07:46.01 | slvmchn | ti les re |
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| 07:47.26 | project2501a | wx, oi mpatsoi |
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| 07:50.40 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/126654 |
| 07:52.29 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/126655 |
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| 07:52.50 | Agiofws | can anyone help me with this ? its gstreamer ... |
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| 07:54.12 | project2501a | Agiofws: sorry, i don't use gstreamer |
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| 07:55.36 | ProfOak_ | What kernel ships with 5.07? |
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| 08:00.18 | ProfOak_ | hello? |
| 08:01.32 | Agiofws | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 08:01.34 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:04.17 | ragnar_de | hi all |
| 08:04.31 | ProfOak_ | hi |
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| 08:05.26 | ragnar_de | i have an external hdd with a ext3 partition on it. how can i remount it rw and execute? |
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| 08:11.17 | dondelelcaro | ragnar_de: mount -o remount,rw,exec /path/to/mountpoint; or similar |
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| 08:13.35 | ragnar_de | dondelelcaro: that worked. thx. now i have to find out where autofs stores it's options. |
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| 08:17.10 | ragnar_de | ok, thx so far. |
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| 08:18.35 | dondelelcaro | you almost certainly don't want an autofs filesystem mounted with anything but user,rw |
| 08:19.48 | dondelelcaro | (though it's not like mounting it exec is a big deal; the main thing you can't have is suid or dev) |
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| 08:23.57 | ProfOak_ | Does anyone know what kernel ships with 5.07? |
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| 08:27.36 | omega-xi | \o |
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| 08:28.11 | omega-xi | Does anyone happen to know off hand where I can find an example of /etc/profile from a default install? |
| 08:30.37 | dondelelcaro | omega-xi: it's in base-files. apt-cache search '/etc/profile'; would have located it for you... |
| 08:30.54 | omega-xi | Awesome, thank you so much |
| 08:30.55 | dondelelcaro | (this is a bit of a weird case, normally you'd use apt-file search) |
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| 08:35.49 | omega-xi | /usr/share/base-files/profile =D |
| 08:36.16 | jargon- | where does gnome-terminal store its config file? |
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| 09:03.30 | Bartzy | How can I set the brightness of my laptop screen ? Xbacklight doesn't seem to work |
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| 09:06.41 | lxsameer | hi how can i remove a page with its complete configuration files |
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| 09:19.47 | dondelelcaro | lxsameer: you mean a package? aptitude purge foopkg; |
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| 09:22.55 | lxsameer | dondelelcaro: i do a purge but config files still exists |
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| 09:23.19 | dondelelcaro | lxsameer: then you aren't purging the package which actually owns the configuration files, or there's a bug. |
| 09:23.23 | dondelelcaro | !real problem |
| 09:23.23 | dpkg | Please tell us what the real problem is instead of wasting our time asking questions about things that you think are related to the problem. If you don't, you're just wasting your time and ours. [Far too often what you think is related to the problem actually isn't or won't help you solve your problem at all.], or see <xyproblem> |
| 09:23.52 | lxsameer | dondelelcaro: aha thanks |
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| 09:24.59 | Bartzy|away | How can I set the brightness of my laptop screen ? Xbacklight doesn't seem to work |
| 09:25.29 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy|away: depends on the laptop |
| 09:25.47 | Bartzy|away | dondelelcaro: It's a Dell Latitude E4310, does that help ? Or can you point me how can I check ? |
| 09:26.31 | Bartzy|away | the problem is I play with xrandr to get the external monitor to work right. I succeed, but when I turn the internal monitor on again, the brightness is very low, and I need to press Fn+Up a lot of times to get the brightness up. It seems like it's "Dell's" brightness |
| 09:27.04 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 09:27.34 | Agiofws | can someone tell me how to fix this problem in debian ? unmet dependancies ... http://codepad.org/4bQ2OPZV |
| 09:27.40 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy|away: hrm; it's possible that the driver for whatever intel chip that is doesn't yet suport xrandr's backlight |
| 09:27.41 | nope | Bartzy|away: have you checked in the bios? believe you can force it to be at full brightness at all times there |
| 09:27.53 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy|away: but I'm not familiar with that laptop |
| 09:27.59 | Agiofws | i am trying to compile blender which depends on ffmpeg ... and ffmpeg is failing ... i guess |
| 09:28.03 | Bartzy|away | nope: Yeah, but that's bad because sometimes I don't want full brightness! |
| 09:28.04 | NotInternat | howdy. is there a way to verify every package file installed against .deb to verify whats been changed? |
| 09:28.11 | mbruins | i just added "PermitRootLogin no" to my /etc/ssh/sshd_config and after that i restarted sshd with the command "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" but im still able to login as root. any suggestions what i might do wrong? |
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| 09:28.21 | dondelelcaro | NotInternat: yes. it's called debsums |
| 09:28.21 | NotInternat | in particular im looking at what a hosting company has done to the server before releasing it to its client |
| 09:28.30 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:28.44 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: what does apt-cache policy libavcodeccvs51; say? |
| 09:29.03 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: and the output of apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy libavutilcvs49; ? |
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| 09:29.20 | dondelelcaro | and furthermore, why are you installing the library directly, instead of whatever actually depends on the library? |
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| 09:29.38 | NotInternat | doesnt seem to verify configuration files only binaries.. |
| 09:29.49 | NotInternat | oops |
| 09:29.52 | NotInternat | missed a flag. |
| 09:29.57 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/126667 |
| 09:30.00 | Agiofws | dondelelcaro, ^^ ? |
| 09:30.33 | Agiofws | i even tried that i get the same error |
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| 09:31.17 | Agiofws | libavformat52 is already the newest version. |
| 09:31.42 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: uh... what are you actually trying to do here? |
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| 09:31.56 | Agiofws | this |
| 09:32.39 | Agiofws | blender: relocation error: /usr/local/lib/libavdevice.so.52: symbol ff_timefilter_reset, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference |
| 09:32.41 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: because libavcodec52 is what you almost certainly actually want, not any of the other 51 packages or 49 versions, which are pretty ancient. |
| 09:33.13 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: and which version of blender is that? |
| 09:33.19 | Agiofws | svn |
| 09:33.44 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: dpkg -l blender libavformat52 libavcodec52; |
| 09:34.19 | Agiofws | ii libavformat52 3:20080706-0.3lenny2 ffmpeg file format library |
| 09:34.24 | Agiofws | No packages found matching libavcodec52. |
| 09:34.39 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: and what about blender? |
| 09:34.44 | Bartzy|away | Is it safe to remove Synaptic package manager ? |
| 09:34.55 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy|away: sure |
| 09:35.16 | Bartzy|away | dondelelcaro: Just aptitude purge synaptic ? |
| 09:35.17 | Bartzy|away | I hate it |
| 09:35.23 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy|away: sure |
| 09:35.27 | Bartzy|away | It pops up all the time saying: A package manager is working |
| 09:35.34 | Bartzy|away | of course it's working, I started it |
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| 09:35.57 | Bartzy|away | aptitude purge synaptic says gnome will be removed too :| |
| 09:36.22 | Arrowmaster | because gnome depends on it |
| 09:36.26 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy|away: yes, because the gnome metapackage depends on it |
| 09:36.35 | Bartzy|away | hmmm so what do I do ? |
| 09:36.43 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy|away: if you don't want that, mark the various bits of gnome that you do want as manually installed using aptitude |
| 09:36.52 | Arrowmaster | either remove the gnome metapackage or dont remove synaptic |
| 09:37.16 | Bartzy|away | I want everything that's currently installed, just don't want synaptic... |
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| 09:37.22 | Bartzy|away | or at least disable it from working at all |
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| 09:37.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | anyone know offhand if i can bulk add torrents to transmission, or should i use something like btdownload? |
| 09:37.35 | Agiofws | donatilo, the funny thing is that i tell blender to use ffmpeg svn but its seems to look for libvarformat in system files and not in the trunk |
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| 09:38.00 | Agiofws | /usr/bin/ld: warning: libavutil.so.50, needed by /usr/local/lib/libswscale.so, may conflict with libavutil.so.49 |
| 09:38.05 | Agiofws | /usr/bin/ld: warning: libavcodec.so.52, needed by /usr/local/lib/libavdevice.so, may conflict with libavcodec.so.51 |
| 09:38.19 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: why in the world aren't you just using the blender that is distributed in debian multimedia? |
| 09:38.31 | Agiofws | because its ancient |
| 09:38.37 | ukl | hello #debian. Has anybody else ever experienced problems printing powerpoint-exported pdf files? It drives me nuts, it just doesnt work here (cups, debian sid and squeeze) |
| 09:38.45 | Agiofws | its not even 2.5 |
| 09:38.55 | Agiofws | which is a major break through |
| 09:38.57 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: then backport the version from experimental |
| 09:39.13 | Agiofws | i prefer to build my own bins from svn |
| 09:39.14 | dondelelcaro | though it 2.49 is > 2.5... |
| 09:39.40 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/mIaOXtk8 |
| 09:39.45 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: well, then you'll have to learn how to properly build against the system libraries, use rpath, ld_library_path, or otherwise properly specify the libraries that you want to use |
| 09:40.12 | dondelelcaro | none of which involves installing ancient versions of libavcodec or libavutils |
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| 09:40.37 | Agiofws | but i built ffmpeg svn also |
| 09:40.41 | dondelelcaro | so? |
| 09:40.46 | Agiofws | i just don;t know why its doing this |
| 09:41.06 | dondelelcaro | it's doing this because you're linking against a totally different set of libraries than you're building against |
| 09:41.42 | Agiofws | but in scons i have used ... BF_FFMPEG = '/mnt/videos/ffmpeg-source/svn/trunk' |
| 09:42.00 | Agiofws | which points to the newest ffmpeg libs |
| 09:42.09 | Agiofws | why is it looking in /usr ? |
| 09:42.27 | xro | hi, is gzrecover able to repair a brocken .gz file? i have a backup and i can't decompress it (i get unexpected end of file) |
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| 09:42.44 | Dewi | Kamping_Kaiser: transmission can monitor a dir and import torrents dropped there |
| 09:43.12 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: because linking checks LD_LIBRARY_PATH first, which defaults to /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib and a few other values. |
| 09:43.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | Dewi: ah, ta. do you know if it monitors the subdirectories too? |
| 09:43.33 | Zenox | I get a row with this in /var/log/messages when booting Lenny. What does this mean? -> "What does kernel: [ 1.730088] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdd] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA" |
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| 09:44.19 | Zenox | The hard drive works okay and is a part of a software raid which has run self tests without any errors |
| 09:44.24 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:46.02 | ov3rmind | nice morning |
| 09:46.21 | Dewi | Kamping_Kaiser: probably not |
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| 09:46.38 | Dewi | Kamping_Kaiser: deletes them too, I think |
| 09:46.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | Dewi: i think theres a setting for deletingt |
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| 09:47.50 | rubin110_ | Any help with this error would be much appreciated. |
| 09:47.52 | rubin110_ | Starting NFS kernel daemon: nfsdrpc.nfsd: Setting version failed: errno 16 (Device or resource busy) |
| 09:47.57 | rubin110_ | http://rubin110.pastebin.com/YDTu8TyV |
| 09:48.16 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: no, you either have to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH properly in your environment before you start blender, or you need to use rpath to specify it |
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| 09:48.35 | Bartzy|away | Where's a good place to put my programs ? lets say compiled firefox ? |
| 09:48.39 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: either way is slightly complicated, which is why you should use the versions that Debian already uses, or backport the version from experimental. |
| 09:48.40 | Bartzy|away | /usr/local/programs ? |
| 09:48.49 | dondelelcaro | Bartzy|away: package it in a Debian package and install it |
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| 09:49.09 | Bartzy|away | how ? |
| 09:50.18 | dondelelcaro | !tell Bartzy|away -about nm guide |
| 09:51.00 | dondelelcaro | you can of course stick them under /usr/local, but eventually you'll learn that doesn't scale. |
| 09:51.08 | vtts | Bartzy|away, /opt is a good place for foreign programs |
| 09:52.21 | vtts | "man hier" for more info about paths |
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| 09:54.47 | SvenL- | My update manager gets stuck while loading list of updates, I googled a bit but did not find anything. Is that a newly found bug ? (Have this since today, last update 2 days ago went fine) (Debian testing) |
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| 09:58.40 | binbash_ | This is prop. something easy but; |
| 09:58.58 | binbash_ | when i ssh in to a ubuntu/fedora box, my session name get replaced with <user>@<remotebox> |
| 09:59.08 | binbash_ | When i ssh in to debian, it stays the session of my local machine |
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| 09:59.15 | binbash_ | Is this a setting somewhere? |
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| 10:02.48 | Bartzy|away | How do I use update-alternatives ? |
| 10:02.59 | Bartzy|away | update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/firefox x-www-browser |
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| 10:03.07 | Bartzy|away | I don't understand why that's not enough... |
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| 10:05.16 | crono- | binbash_: its actually a good question as i've wondered about the same thing, it should be controlled by terminal control sequences, but im not sure how |
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| 10:09.00 | binbash_ | crono- very frustrating if you have like 8 sessions open to diffrent boxes |
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| 10:10.06 | crono- | binbash_: it should be something like this echo -e "\x1B]2;test\x07" |
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| 10:10.21 | binbash_ | Hmm yeah |
| 10:10.29 | binbash_ | I think it should be in the bashrc |
| 10:10.30 | binbash_ | right? |
| 10:10.38 | crono- | but it seems to work on some of my boxes, although i copied /etc/bash.rc to /root/.bashrc to get a user-like environment as root (colored ls output etc) |
| 10:10.49 | crono- | yep |
| 10:10.54 | binbash_ | i'll copy the .bashrc from a ubuntu box |
| 10:11.00 | binbash_ | to check if it works |
| 10:11.02 | crono- | yeah and try to find out what does it |
| 10:11.47 | binbash_ | think i found it |
| 10:11.59 | binbash_ | # If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir |
| 10:11.59 | binbash_ | case "$TERM" in |
| 10:11.59 | binbash_ | xterm*|rxvt*) |
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| 10:12.43 | Bartzy|away | How can I set firefox as default in /etc/alternatives ? :\ |
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| 10:12.51 | binbash_ | haha woops |
| 10:12.56 | binbash_ | anyway |
| 10:12.59 | Bartzy|away | I removed iceweasel and installed real firefox |
| 10:12.59 | binbash_ | found it |
| 10:13.07 | Bartzy|away | but how can I make update-alternatives work |
| 10:13.18 | superlinux | hello. any one here knows how to use ddclient for Dynamic DNS? |
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| 10:20.42 | ov3rmind | i sugest you try dhid is more sample""easy" to put to work fine |
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| 10:24.26 | Bartzy|away | how can I search on which package a file exists ? |
| 10:24.31 | Bartzy|away | I only have the filename |
| 10:25.06 | sep | http://packages.debian.org or use the tool apt-file |
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| 10:27.52 | Bartzy|away | error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 10:27.56 | Bartzy|away | I have gtk2.0-0 installed. |
| 10:28.03 | Bartzy|away | this is when trying to launch firefox |
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| 10:29.06 | xyan | Bartzy|away: is the file available at /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 ? |
| 10:29.10 | xyan | if so fix your $PATH |
| 10:29.23 | Bartzy|away | to include /usr/lib ? |
| 10:29.27 | xyan | ah no |
| 10:29.28 | xyan | sorry |
| 10:29.32 | Bartzy|away | yes it's there. |
| 10:29.54 | xyan | ok and which script did you run to start firefox? |
| 10:30.02 | Bartzy|away | /opt/firefox/firefox |
| 10:30.03 | xyan | the firefox one i hope? its setting a lot of stuff |
| 10:30.04 | Bartzy|away | the binary |
| 10:30.28 | xyan | hrm which version is that? |
| 10:30.32 | Bartzy|away | 3.6.12 |
| 10:30.38 | Bartzy|away | I unpacked firefox in /opt/firefox |
| 10:30.49 | Bartzy|away | there are a lot of .so files there.. libxul and stuff.. but the gtk is not there |
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| 10:31.16 | xyan | i have it at the same place, same version |
| 10:31.21 | xyan | and bash /opt/firefox/firefox works just fine |
| 10:31.55 | Bartzy|away | ok... |
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| 10:33.01 | Bartzy|away | You have anything in /usr/local/lib/firefox-3.6.12 |
| 10:33.02 | Bartzy|away | ? |
| 10:33.12 | xyan | nope it does not even exist |
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| 10:33.14 | Bartzy|away | /opt/firefox/firefox points there for some reason |
| 10:33.40 | xyan | its a symlink? not a bash script? |
| 10:33.46 | xyan | you mean moz_libdir=/usr/local/lib/firefox-3.6.12 ? |
| 10:34.01 | xyan | you could try to copy the .so file into that directory |
| 10:34.17 | xyan | but anyhow. redownload and extract it again maybe something went wrong |
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| 10:40.26 | Bartzy|away | yes xyan |
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| 10:42.32 | Bartzy|away | xyan: I have 64-bit debian |
| 10:42.36 | Bartzy|away | Does that matter ? :| |
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| 10:43.55 | xyan | Bartzy|away: sure it does you need compatibility libs installed |
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| 10:43.57 | xyan | aptitude install ia32-libs-gtk |
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| 10:45.11 | acemi | Bartzy|away: why you don't use it from repo? |
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| 10:45.28 | Bartzy|away | acemi: Firefox ? Because It's Iceweasel, and it's version 3.5... |
| 10:45.50 | acemi | it's the same thing with firefox 3.5 |
| 10:46.06 | xyan | theres a 3.6.12 built in experimental though *cough* |
| 10:46.37 | Bartzy|away | acemi: But I can download 3.6.12 from getfirefox.com... |
| 10:46.51 | Bartzy|away | xyan: Using the experimental repo is ok ? |
| 10:47.02 | xyan | no unless you know what you are doing |
| 10:47.22 | Bartzy|away | it works :p |
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| 10:47.53 | Bartzy|away | xyan: Without a choice, I'm already using kernel 2.6.36 from experimental... |
| 10:48.02 | Bartzy|away | My graphics adapter doesn't work well on 2.6.32 |
| 10:48.11 | Bartzy|away | xyan: Thanks a lot, ia32-libs-gtk did it! |
| 10:48.18 | xyan | i see, i hope you pinned it down to priority 1 :-) |
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| 11:04.41 | redguy | petemc: any idea on how can I test gethostbyname() from shell? |
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| 11:07.14 | petemc | redguy: ping ? |
| 11:07.23 | xro | yes ping |
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| 11:12.04 | redguy | thanks petemc and xro |
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| 11:24.21 | qkit | evening everyones |
| 11:24.33 | qkit | any one success using virtualbox in debian runing rdp? |
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| 11:25.12 | qkit | i have seaching through all the documents and forum, and found some forum saying virtualbox ose not supported rdp |
| 11:26.05 | petemc | qkit: as long as it has a functioning network there would be nothing preventing you from installing a rdp server |
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| 11:26.59 | qkit | but i only have console on this box, there for i have no ways to configure the virtualbox guest |
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| 11:33.26 | valajbeg | flash works in chrome but i want to link it to firefox too |
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| 11:34.27 | Agiofws | some one could please tell me what the problem is http://codepad.org/XZbAaW13 ? |
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| 11:37.16 | nkuttler | Agiofws: why do you ask #debian if you build from source? |
| 11:37.59 | acemi | valajbeg: install flashplugin-nonfree from non-free repo or mozilla-plugin-gnash |
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| 11:39.00 | Agiofws | nkuttler, since when are distros NON compile specific ? |
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| 11:41.46 | nkuttler | Agiofws: well, good luck.. |
| 11:42.25 | Agiofws | thanks for the help |
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| 11:52.12 | ragnar_de | hi all |
| 11:52.49 | ttiicc | I love opensource! :D)()) |
| 11:53.51 | ragnar_de | i 'm missing the old xmms so i decided to build it by myself but configure is missing GLIB >= 1.2.2 . are there any packages for lenny around ( aptitude gives nothing ) or do i have to build them too? |
| 11:54.08 | valajbeg | acemi, i'll try, thnx althoug it's much much much more slower :( |
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| 11:55.13 | petern_ | you'd probably have to build glib-1.2 as well, yes |
| 11:55.54 | petern_ | hmm, actually there is a libglib1.2-dev |
| 11:55.59 | ragnar_de | petern_: maybe i just need glib-devel ( or such ) but i do not find them |
| 11:56.32 | petern_ | well if it exists it's libglib1.2-dev |
| 11:57.01 | petern_ | yeah, it's still available on lenny |
| 11:57.21 | ragnar_de | hmmm.... i dont see them |
| 11:57.31 | jelly | ragnar_de: old xmms requires gtk1, which isn't available in Debian |
| 11:58.21 | petern_ | i think it's still in lenny |
| 11:58.37 | petern_ | i.e. http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libgtk1.2&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
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| 11:59.04 | jelly | hm |
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| 11:59.13 | jelly | judd: whatdepends libgtk1.2 |
| 11:59.37 | petern_ | it's no longer in squeeze though |
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| 12:00.25 | jelly | judd: versions libgtk1.2-dev |
| 12:00.26 | judd | Package libgtk1.2-dev on i386 -- etch: 1.2.10-18; lenny: 1.2.10-18.1 |
| 12:00.38 | jelly | ragnar_de: install that one. |
| 12:00.39 | ragnar_de | sounds bad. i dont like huge monsters like xmms2, atunes, amarok. i dont need to manage my music. |
| 12:01.32 | ragnar_de | jelly: i dont see it. aptitude gives me 0 packages |
| 12:01.54 | jelly | ragnar_de: which debian release are you using? |
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| 12:02.25 | jelly | ragnar_de: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy", please |
| 12:02.26 | Tommy_DO | What's debians opinion about ext4? Is it stable enough for every purpose? Which filesystem is selected automatically in squeeze's installer? |
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| 12:02.27 | ragnar_de | it's squeeze |
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| 12:02.48 | petern_ | well there you go then. you said lenny earlier :) |
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| 12:02.51 | jelly | ragnar_de: so the libs are all gone from squeeze; they old and unmaintained. |
| 12:03.39 | jelly | petern_: no, you said lenny. <g> |
| 12:03.42 | ragnar_de | petern_: i did yes. i had a look in /etc/apt/sources.list a few seconds ago |
| 12:03.51 | ragnar_de | jelly: i did. |
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| 12:04.22 | jelly | ok. my lastlog is incomplete |
| 12:05.11 | ragnar_de | anyway, is it possible to insert old packages? |
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| 12:05.53 | ragnar_de | the last debian i have seen is ten years ago on my atari tt. so many things have changed |
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| 12:06.44 | jelly | anything is possible with software; the only question is how had it is and whether the costs are lower than the benefits |
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| 12:07.05 | acemi | ragnar_de: did you try audacious |
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| 12:07.29 | petern_ | audacious is probably the most xmms-like |
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| 12:08.06 | b52 | hey, how can i tell debian to autostart the ntp service after a reboot? |
| 12:08.12 | b52 | i need to start it manually every time |
| 12:08.14 | petern_ | you even get the same old skin, although branded audacious, not x multimedia system |
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| 12:08.37 | ragnar_de | acemi: not yet. |
| 12:10.03 | ragnar_de | audacious looks good so far |
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| 12:11.26 | fenugreek | it's actually forked from XMMS |
| 12:11.55 | abrotman | kind of .. not directly |
| 12:12.19 | ragnar_de | fenugreek: so, it might be compatible with xmms plugins? |
| 12:12.30 | fenugreek | it is, at least partially |
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| 12:14.02 | ragnar_de | ok, another question.... i have an external usb hdd with an ext3 partition on it. autofs mounts it always readonly and noexec. anyone knows where do i have to change the mounting options? |
| 12:14.32 | fenugreek | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.32 | fenugreek | or I guess maybe /etc/auto.misc if you want to use that |
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| 12:15.36 | ragnar_de | fenugreek: doesnt work at this point of starting. usb comes later |
| 12:15.46 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:15.53 | fenugreek | ragnar_de: what DE are you using/ |
| 12:15.58 | ragnar_de | DE? |
| 12:16.02 | fenugreek | desktop environment |
| 12:16.05 | ragnar_de | gnome |
| 12:16.39 | fenugreek | Agiofws: hrmm? |
| 12:16.54 | abrotman | Agiofws: do you want to know the package name or the file name? |
| 12:17.20 | Agiofws | i want to know if i have the bzip header files installed or not |
| 12:17.37 | Agiofws | which ever will work |
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| 12:17.46 | abrotman | Agiofws: libbz2-dev ? |
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| 12:21.45 | Agiofws | abrotman, thanks but i still am having trouble ... |
| 12:22.44 | abrotman | well, you aren't giving us much info |
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| 12:24.15 | petern_ | what was the original problem? |
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| 12:26.07 | abrotman | he didn't say! |
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| 12:26.53 | petern_ | istr something about playing h.264 files, but that might've been something else. |
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| 12:50.51 | stew | !qotd0 |
| 12:50.51 | dpkg | <Maulkin> *mumble*raid0-isn't-raid*mumble* * resiak removes two of Maulkin's chair's legs. "It's okay, because they were in a redundant array!" |
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| 12:54.50 | crashev | where is the rc.local file located in debian (equivalent to /etc/rc.d/rc.local) , some place where I can put some commands that should be run onboot ? |
| 12:55.11 | stew | crashev: /etc/rc.local |
| 12:55.26 | crashev | stew: thx |
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| 13:03.01 | unixtippse | Hey all! One of my users (usr1) has a world-writable directory. Now usr2 came along and created a file in that directory, but with umask 077 so that the new file is effectively chmod 600. Is there a way for usr1 to read the contents / take possession of the file created by usr2? As far as I've tried, all he can do is delete it. |
| 13:03.04 | raidghost | To add more info lines to finger, where to do that? |
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| 13:06.22 | raidghost | when i use the syntax finger i get this message before it lists all logged in users.: finger: /dev//pts/31: No such file or directory |
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| 13:06.51 | raidghost | I try to figure out why i get this output. |
| 13:07.18 | don_martino | Hi I have a new Squeeze installation here. My problem is I cannot access Services locally. For example "ssh localhost" "ssh 127.0.0.1" don't work (same with wget and telnet on all those ports). But I can access these serives form another computer. It just wont work locally. Can anybody help me find out why that is? |
| 13:07.26 | abrotman | unixtippse: the original owner can chmod it |
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| 13:08.44 | petemc | don_martino: does ifconfig show lo |
| 13:09.05 | unixtippse | abrotman, yes, I know. :-) If he had a frickin clue, he's possibly just change the umask to 022 in the script that creates the file.... Stupid cookbook "hardening" here. |
| 13:09.16 | don_martino | petemc: I just remembered. lo is down by default in squeeze .... knew i heared of this before |
| 13:09.28 | don_martino | petemc: it works now. thanks for reminding me again |
| 13:09.57 | petemc | any squeeze installs i have have a loopback interface which i didnt need to add manuallt |
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| 13:10.46 | don_martino | petemc: well it's there i just need to up it. but i bootstraped it. maybe i have to write the network settings myself then |
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| 13:12.29 | petemc | yes, if you use debootstrap you have to do some manual setup |
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| 13:12.43 | petemc | thats not specific to squeeze either |
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| 13:13.35 | don_martino | petemc: ok then it's a bootstrap issue. i fixed it permanetly now |
| 13:13.42 | hkuieagle | Hi room, when I want to remove gnome-games, it wants me to remove gnome as well! Does that matters? |
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| 13:14.02 | ragnar_de | with fedora i can do "yum -y install foobar\*" which installs foobar and forbar-devel. is something like that possible with apt-get / aptitude? |
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| 13:15.57 | raidghost | Thanks! |
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| 13:23.31 | ragnar_de | how can i see what packages i have installed? i'm trying to build an application and configure complains me about missing SDL-(devel) which should be installed |
| 13:24.06 | mcb_ | ragnar_de: dpkg -l |
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| 13:24.46 | mcb_ | It will list all packages. |
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| 13:28.09 | HackeMate | hello |
| 13:28.40 | HackeMate | I want to buy a laptop and install debian, where can I see a list of compatibility? |
| 13:29.01 | HackeMate | I tried to install it in a debian acer one aspire and I can't manage webcam or some devices |
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| 13:29.18 | HackeMate | I saw it could be possible compiling manually something |
| 13:29.30 | HackeMate | but I won't experiment that |
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| 13:34.27 | ragnar_de | HackeMate: i have a small barebone which is very similar to a laptop. i dont have any problems so far. |
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| 13:34.36 | mrtnt | Am I correct, that if I'm running "OpenSSH 3.5p1 (protocol 1.99)" in the server using the key-based authentication, then I need to place id_rsa.pub(ssh-keygen -t rsa1 because it's SSH version 1.99) into server, not the identity.pub? |
| 13:35.14 | ragnar_de | HackeMate: ok, i have noc webcam or wlan but my guess is that it would work |
| 13:35.43 | HackeMate | it should be a laptop |
| 13:35.44 | HackeMate | is not for me |
| 13:36.12 | ragnar_de | HackeMate: you could have a look at this page |
| 13:36.15 | ragnar_de | http://www.linux-drivers.org/ |
| 13:36.34 | HackeMate | thanks |
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| 13:37.12 | btavakkoli | Hi, what's the program that part Debian repositories to DVD ? |
| 13:37.48 | bonjoyee | btavakkoli:aptoncd? |
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| 13:39.48 | btavakkoli | bonjoyee: aptoncd is good for making repositories from .deb files that are located in a folder, But i get repositories by debmirror and every .deb file is in a directory |
| 13:40.07 | btavakkoli | bonjoyee: it seems there is another program for do this? |
| 13:41.00 | bonjoyee | btavakkoli: ok |
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| 13:57.30 | hkuieagle | hi,how can I manage start-up services on debian? |
| 13:57.52 | bonjoyee | hkuieagle: what version? |
| 13:58.03 | hkuieagle | bonjoyee: squeeze |
| 13:58.26 | bonjoyee | did u install upstart? |
| 13:58.53 | hkuieagle | bonjoyee: no |
| 13:59.18 | bonjoyee | if not then "services-admin" as root should work |
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| 13:59.41 | stew | hkuieagle: update-rc.d / rcconf / sysv-rc-conf |
| 14:00.00 | babilen | hkuieagle: What do you mean by manage? If you want to disable/enable certain services have a look at: update-rc.d , rcconf and ... gah stew! :) |
| 14:00.32 | stew | gah babilen! |
| 14:00.49 | xro | is there a difference between "gzip -d myfile" and "gunzip myfile" ? |
| 14:01.20 | hkuieagle | bonjoyee: well, It's "services-admin" that confuses me! Does it do the same job as update-rc.d? |
| 14:02.19 | stew | hkuieagle: all the others should be frontends for update-rc.d which does the actual work |
| 14:02.20 | bonjoyee | it certainly enables/disables them..but update-rc.d gives much more control |
| 14:02.22 | babilen | xro: Take a look at "gunzip" it basically does "exec gzip -d "$@" -- so no, no difference |
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| 14:02.34 | hkuieagle | bonjoyee: I didn't see any options of runlevels to be choosen on services-admin |
| 14:02.57 | bonjoyee | they are there..just check more carefully |
| 14:03.19 | bonjoyee | right-click and properties.. |
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| 14:04.26 | hkuieagle | bonjoyee: er... It's too covert |
| 14:04.34 | bonjoyee | hkuieagle: i am using squeeze as well..its surely there... |
| 14:05.01 | hkuieagle | bonjoyee: yeah, I found it |
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| 14:05.33 | abrotman | covert ? |
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| 14:06.00 | bonjoyee | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:06.53 | hkuieagle | bonjoyee: and I can't "manage" with services-admin, all I can do is just to enable/disable |
| 14:07.10 | bonjoyee | what so u mean by manage? |
| 14:07.13 | bonjoyee | do |
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| 14:07.28 | babilen | hkuieagle: What are you trying to do? Is sysv-rc-conf or update-rc.d not what you are looking for? |
| 14:08.41 | hkuieagle | babilen: no, update-rc.d is enough, I just wonder if services-admin and update-rc.d use the same mechanism. |
| 14:09.12 | babilen | hkuieagle: What is "services-admin" ? |
| 14:09.39 | bonjoyee | babilen:gui to update-rc.d i believe? |
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| 14:10.14 | Agiofws | hello |
| 14:10.29 | stew | hkuieagle: they all should be using update-rc.d (which has different implementations in debian depending on which init system you use) |
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| 14:11.39 | Agiofws | i am upgrading from lenny to squeeze but it seems that i do not have enough space on my root folder for the upgrade tp take place ... should i stop the upgrade and resize my partion via a live disk ? ; or can i do it with my partition mounted ? or generally what should i do ? |
| 14:11.40 | hkuieagle | stew: by saying init system you mean stuffs like "sysV style" and "upstart"? |
| 14:11.58 | Agiofws | /dev/sda5 14G 13G 275M 98% / |
| 14:12.31 | xro | babilen, and can you explain me why when i do a "gzip -d myFile.gz" i get a error (unexpected end of file) and when i use zcat i can read the file? |
| 14:13.39 | flypp | xro, missing EOF in myFile.gz? |
| 14:13.56 | xro | flypp, yes (i get unexpected end of file) |
| 14:13.58 | Agiofws | anyone ? |
| 14:14.17 | babilen | xro: I assume that gunzip behaves like "gzip -d" -- zcat behaves like gzip -c and just dumps everything that has been decoded so far to stdout |
| 14:14.22 | xro | flypp, but when i use zcat to read the file, data seems to be correct |
| 14:14.28 | stew | hkuieagle: yes, but I don't know about upstart. certainly sysv, file-rc, insserv |
| 14:15.06 | xro | flypp, it's a real big file (50 Go compressed and more 200 Go uncompressed) |
| 14:15.47 | xro | flypp, do you know this problem (i hope yes and also you know how to do) |
| 14:16.11 | flypp | xro, zcat search reads line by line (searching for ends of line). Seems like that file has end of lines, but no end of file especial character |
| 14:16.12 | hkuieagle | stew: me too, the only one I know is sysV. I'm confused by so much init systems |
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| 14:16.47 | xro | flypp, is that possible? |
| 14:16.59 | Agiofws | i am upgrading from lenny to squeeze but it seems that i do not have enough space on my root folder for the upgrade tp take place ... should i stop the upgrade and resize my partion via a live disk ? ; or can i do it with my partition mounted ? or generally what should i do ? |
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| 14:17.39 | Agiofws | if i interrupt the upgrade process will i be able to boot my machine ? |
| 14:18.22 | xro | flypp, and how add a EOF to a gz file? |
| 14:18.51 | bonjoyee | Agiofws: you could download the upgrade packages to some other location |
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| 14:19.12 | bonjoyee | and update it from there |
| 14:19.16 | acemi | Agiofws: you can delete the old debs file |
| 14:19.23 | Agiofws | how ? |
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| 14:19.36 | xro | if i get an error with "gzip -d" (unexpected end of file)... do you think that "zcat myfile.gz > myfile" could work? |
| 14:19.40 | Agiofws | i have laready issued aptitude full upgrade ? |
| 14:19.52 | Agiofws | aptitude full-upgrade |
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| 14:20.07 | DarkUranium | o/ |
| 14:20.18 | bonjoyee | Agiofws:hmm... |
| 14:20.18 | acemi | is it downloading the packages now? |
| 14:20.28 | Agiofws | /dev/sda5 14G 13G 139M 99% / |
| 14:20.29 | Agiofws | yes |
| 14:20.46 | acemi | then you can stop it |
| 14:20.53 | bonjoyee | yes if its sill downloading..then u shud be able to cancel it safely.. |
| 14:20.54 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/126703 |
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| 14:21.37 | Agiofws | bonjoyee, ctl+n ? |
| 14:21.48 | bonjoyee | ctrl+c |
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| 14:21.58 | Agiofws | ok done |
| 14:22.01 | stew | Agiofws: you should be reading chapter 4 of the release notes, there are a lot of idll advised things you are doing |
| 14:22.09 | stew | ^idll^ill |
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| 14:22.13 | Agiofws | any ideas on how to spare some space ? |
| 14:22.26 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | i have a Sound Blaster emu10k1x 5.1 channel sound card. I installed oss4 yesterday but cant get surround sound working. Any solutions? |
| 14:22.27 | Agiofws | on a / partition ? |
| 14:22.47 | flypp | xro, are you sure that file is a gzip file?. Run: file MyFile.gz |
| 14:22.53 | Agiofws | or should i boot up woth a live cd and resize ? |
| 14:23.12 | acemi | Agiofws: aptitude autoclean deletes the old debs |
| 14:23.52 | Agiofws | Del exim4-daemon-light 4.69-9 [422 kB] |
| 14:23.52 | Agiofws | Freed 1,983 MB of disk space |
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| 14:23.54 | Agiofws | :) |
| 14:23.56 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | Any oss guy here? |
| 14:24.30 | babilen | Agiofws: You can free more with "aptitude clean" (that will delete *all* downloaded packages) |
| 14:24.45 | lunarmys | I'm feeling a bit thick here, but I'd like to install debian on a disk WITHOUT re-partitioning and without re-formatting it. But debian installer (squeeze beta 1) seems to insist on this.. am I missing something obvious? |
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| 14:24.52 | hkuieagle | How can I find descriptions or useful information about those various services? |
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| 14:25.38 | Agiofws | Need to get 1,923 MB/2,252 MB of archives. After unpacking 2,275 MB will be used. |
| 14:25.51 | xro | flypp, gzip compressed data, from Unix, |
| 14:26.03 | babilen | lunarmys: You should use one of the weeklies and I never ran into that problem in expert mode. Haven't used the "normal" install in ages, so don't know if that is different. |
| 14:26.25 | bonjoyee | Agiofws:you could generate download links for the upgrade packages..download them to another location..and then create symlinks to those packages in /var/cache/apt/archives.. |
| 14:26.28 | lunarmys | babilen: will try expert mode, thanks! |
| 14:27.03 | flypp | xro, first, make a backup (cp myFile.gz myFile.gz.bak) and then try to append an empty line (echo " " >> myFile.gz) |
| 14:27.19 | bonjoyee | for download u could use something like aria2c which reads download links from file using the -i option |
| 14:28.27 | xro | flypp, is it possible to write a space at the end of the file? |
| 14:28.37 | Agiofws | aria2c ? |
| 14:28.38 | xro | flypp, end a EOF |
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| 14:29.12 | flypp | try it, i've made a test and it worked |
| 14:29.16 | babilen | lunarmys: Choose "Manual Partitioning" and make sure that you don't create filesystems on (some) of your partitions. There is a flag for that, but it escapes me right now what it is called. You just want to assign a mountpoint to them. |
| 14:29.27 | bonjoyee | Agiofws:one way to do this...synaptic>mark all upgrades>generate download links>then download those files using aria2c |
| 14:29.53 | xro | flypp, ok... i try... a gzip -tv will check it |
| 14:30.00 | bonjoyee | Agiofws:this way u wont have to download the packages u already have |
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| 14:30.32 | Agiofws | i don;t have synaptic installed |
| 14:30.42 | flypp | xro, http://pastebin.com/ffQ5tbD9 << my test |
| 14:30.44 | Rug | Howdy all. |
| 14:31.07 | babilen | Agiofws: Please read the release notes. There are a couple of things in there that are important. (e.g. use apt-get for the upgrade) -- http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes |
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| 14:31.58 | stew | Agiofws: it would also tell you how to check if you have enough disk space and give several suggestions about what to do if you don't |
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| 14:33.10 | xro | flypp, but your file wasn't corrupt befor? |
| 14:33.28 | flypp | nope |
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| 14:33.42 | DarkUranium | hey guys, I've a question |
| 14:33.42 | bonjoyee | Agiofws:then u could also move /var/cache/apt/archive folder to a location where there is space and create a symlink to it in /var/cache/apt/ |
| 14:34.08 | Rug | I am looking for guidance here and/or some suggestions. I want to script a way to do the folloowing: receive RSS feeds then email the headlines only to a specific address. I don't want to just 'subscribe' at the target location. I don't want to just 'forward' the entire rss message (which usually includes a summary). Just the headline only. Any suggestions? |
| 14:34.12 | DarkUranium | I have a vserver setup in Debian -- the host machine can be accessed on mutliple IPs (say, 111.111.111.111 and a subnet 123.123.123.123/29) |
| 14:34.18 | DarkUranium | how could I forward the subnet to the vserver? |
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| 14:34.59 | DarkUranium | right now, all the IPs point to the "host" server (say, if I go to 123.123.123.123:80, it brings up the 111.111.111.111:80 apache server) |
| 14:35.15 | DarkUranium | (as in, the host machine's server) |
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| 14:39.06 | bonjoyee | Agiofws:there could be more "professional" ways of doing this..what i am suggesting is just for the worst case scenario |
| 14:39.29 | stew | bonjoyee: (the Dir::Cache entry in apt.conf) |
| 14:40.14 | bonjoyee | stew:yeah..but that will download all packages again..isn't it? |
| 14:40.19 | Agiofws | open: 284784; closed: 465210; defer: 17; conflict: 20 oNo solution found within the allotted time. Try harder? [Y/n] |
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| 14:40.53 | stew | Agiofws: this is one of the reasons we are suggesting following the release notes |
| 14:41.01 | Agiofws | can i download the packages onto a usb stick and then install them from there |
| 14:41.02 | stew | Agiofws: also that you should NOT be starting with full-upgrade |
| 14:41.12 | Agiofws | i am reading them |
| 14:41.18 | Agiofws | it is |
| 14:41.19 | stew | Agiofws: just deciding not to follow them? |
| 14:41.30 | Agiofws | i am |
| 14:41.39 | stew | Agiofws: what command gave you that "Try harder" prompt? |
| 14:42.00 | Agiofws | aptitude full upgrade |
| 14:42.11 | abrotman | There is no try ... |
| 14:42.15 | stew | Agiofws: what section of the release notes tells you to do that? |
| 14:42.38 | Agiofws | hmmm you are right ... |
| 14:42.42 | stew | Agiofws: section 4.5 specificall tells you not to use aptitude, and nowhere does it tell you to do full-upgrade |
| 14:42.56 | Agiofws | ok right |
| 14:43.13 | Agiofws | so i am stopping it i was waiting for it to resolvethe deps though |
| 14:43.26 | stew | Agiofws: what part of the upgrade are you on? |
| 14:43.57 | Agiofws | was following this |
| 14:44.00 | Agiofws | http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-upgrade-from-debian-lenny-to-squeeze |
| 14:44.08 | stew | Agiofws: i mean in the release notes |
| 14:44.15 | Agiofws | but now am reading the release notes |
| 14:44.24 | Agiofws | chapter 4 |
| 14:44.35 | flypp | xro, you said that zgrep works? had you tried to do: zcat myFile.gz >> Test.txt ? (or zcat myFile.gz | gzip > Test.gz) |
| 14:44.42 | stew | so he was just lying before |
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| 14:44.56 | Agiofws | no i don't lie |
| 14:45.22 | Agiofws | let me see if i have the right space first of all |
| 14:45.47 | stew | Agiofws: well, you were telling us that you were reading and following the release notes when you weren't... |
| 14:46.26 | xro | flypp, yes zcat myFile.gz >> myFile is my next idea... (do you think it could work?) |
| 14:46.26 | Agiofws | i am now |
| 14:46.31 | Agiofws | After this operation, 2,004 MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 14:46.41 | Agiofws | i was just combining them |
| 14:46.45 | Agiofws | and i have |
| 14:46.55 | Agiofws | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 14:47.00 | Agiofws | /dev/sda5 14G 12G 2.0G 85% / |
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| 14:47.51 | flypp | xro, try: zcat myFile.gz 2> /dev/null | gzip > myFile2.gz |
| 14:48.02 | flypp | then compare the size of the 2 files |
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| 14:50.23 | xro | flypp, but i nedd to use the file.... so i need it uncompressed (zcat myFile.gz >> myfile) |
| 14:50.23 | superlinux | hi |
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| 14:51.40 | babilen | Agiofws: Please follow the advice given in http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#sufficient-space |
| 14:51.58 | superlinux | well, how can I change the order of execution in a gnome session? |
| 14:52.07 | superlinux | I know how to add them only |
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| 14:53.05 | babilen | Agiofws: You might also want to find out what exactly is occupying so much space on your system. I found tools like baobab to be quite helpful with that. |
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| 14:53.55 | superlinux | well, how can I change the order of execution in a gnome session once I logon? |
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| 14:56.30 | Infin1ty|work | i'm using those lines http://pastebin.com/DsVf9U9Z that are part of my preseed file to partition a disk, i get no root filesystem is defined although i do have mountpoint{ / } |
| 14:56.31 | Agiofws | babilen, |
| 14:56.42 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/126706 |
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| 14:58.55 | xro | flypp, the echo " " >> myFile.gz dont work.... |
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| 15:03.48 | Agiofws | does anyone ine here use a vanilla kernel than a debian kernel ? |
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| 15:05.59 | JPT | i use a vanilla kernel on debian at home |
| 15:06.54 | OpenTokix | Agiofws: I dont understand your question |
| 15:07.13 | Agiofws | kernel.org |
| 15:07.27 | OpenTokix | oh |
| 15:07.34 | Agiofws | does anyone in here use a vanilla kernel instead of A a debian kernel ? |
| 15:07.53 | OpenTokix | no, I do not on any system |
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| 15:08.11 | Agiofws | stew, i issued apt-get upgrade at first to do a minimal upgrade for starters |
| 15:08.12 | OpenTokix | Have done before on a workstation, and it was very simple |
| 15:08.15 | Agiofws | why not ? |
| 15:08.20 | OpenTokix | Agiofws: it's not worth it |
| 15:08.34 | Agiofws | why not ? |
| 15:08.41 | OpenTokix | To much hassle, benefit is very low |
| 15:09.08 | Agiofws | you produce a kernel though configured for YOUR system |
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| 15:09.26 | OpenTokix | Agiofws: Well.. I don't see a huge win in that. Havent see a huge improvement |
| 15:10.01 | Agiofws | well you occupy less ram due to a stripped down kernel to your own needs ? |
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| 15:10.53 | OpenTokix | Agiofws: in theory yes, but the actual real life thing, unless embedded is... minor. |
| 15:11.59 | acemi | Agiofws: and you'll not get the kernel updates if you use your custom kernel |
| 15:12.20 | Agiofws | you can just upgrade your kernel though |
| 15:12.55 | bonjoyee | Agiofws:whats the status of full-upgrade? |
| 15:13.14 | Agiofws | bonjoyee, i am doing Just an upgrade for starters |
| 15:13.22 | Agiofws | apt-get upgrade |
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| 15:13.35 | bonjoyee | Agiofws:and space management? |
| 15:13.38 | Agiofws | minimal and then i will check for a full one |
| 15:13.56 | Agiofws | Need to get 411 MB/531 MB of archives. |
| 15:14.00 | Agiofws | After this operation, 198 MB of additional disk space will be used. |
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| 15:15.04 | Agiofws | can someone use both a debian kernel and a vanilla kernel in grub ? |
| 15:15.13 | Agiofws | bonjoyee, off course ... |
| 15:16.28 | JPT | nah, grub is just a funny frontend that allows you to choose the only system available |
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| 15:16.52 | acemi | Agiofws: will you do full-upgrade after apt-get upgrade? |
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| 15:17.07 | stew | acemi: hopefully not |
| 15:17.22 | Agiofws | acemi, if the space permits me too |
| 15:17.27 | Agiofws | stew, why not ? |
| 15:17.43 | stew | Agiofws: because you'd hopefully be following the procedure in the release notes instead |
| 15:17.44 | acemi | Agiofws: didn't you check the upgarde notes? |
| 15:17.50 | Agiofws | JPT, off course you can select kernels in grub |
| 15:17.56 | JPT | :] |
| 15:18.00 | Agiofws | i did |
| 15:18.14 | JPT | i can also put my wintendo into the list ;) |
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| 15:18.33 | Agiofws | stew, whats the benefit of a debian kernel ? |
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| 15:18.44 | acemi | Agiofws: if you check, you will not do that |
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| 15:19.01 | Agiofws | not do what ? acemi ? |
| 15:19.13 | stew | Agiofws: works on a wide variety of systems, easy to upgrade, easier to get security fixes |
| 15:19.14 | acemi | full-upgrade |
| 15:19.40 | acemi | there are some more steps befure this |
| 15:20.27 | xuser | Agiofws: you compile your custom kernel as debian package |
| 15:20.34 | xuser | if you want |
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| 15:20.44 | Agiofws | before full upgrade ? |
| 15:21.02 | acemi | yes |
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| 15:21.10 | Agiofws | 4.5.4. Minimal system upgrade : 4.5.5. Upgrading the kernel and udev : 4.5.6. Upgrading the system |
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| 15:21.18 | Agiofws | but i use my own kernel |
| 15:21.53 | acemi | you can switch your own kernel after upgrade |
| 15:22.20 | Agiofws | i have never used a debian kernel before and i don't know how to install it |
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| 15:23.50 | stew | luckly the instructions you are following tell you how to install it! |
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| 15:24.17 | Agiofws | do i need to edit apt-sources.list ? |
| 15:24.21 | Agiofws | sources.list ? |
| 15:24.43 | stew | Agiofws: you did that in step 4.4 |
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| 15:25.24 | Agiofws | deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian squeeze main contrib i dont have that line in the file |
| 15:25.32 | Agiofws | never used a debian kernel |
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| 15:25.58 | Booumbo | mi? |
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| 15:26.21 | stew | Agiofws: you probably have a line like it from some other mirro |
| 15:26.25 | Booumbo | mi |
| 15:26.48 | Booumbo | ubunto ban me |
| 15:26.50 | Agiofws | i don;t have naything thats refers to a kernel |
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| 15:26.57 | Booumbo | mi |
| 15:27.20 | niko | Booumbo: if you have a debian question, feel free to ask. |
| 15:27.28 | stew | Agiofws: you don't need anything referring to a kernel, the "kernel.org" just happens to be a debian mirror, its not any different than any other debian mirror |
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| 15:27.45 | Booumbo | niko if you have a mandrake question |
| 15:27.53 | Booumbo | hehe |
| 15:28.02 | Booumbo | je suis francais |
| 15:28.06 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/yY5EP9Rn |
| 15:28.12 | Booumbo | mi |
| 15:28.13 | Agiofws | oh ok |
| 15:28.16 | stew | Booumbo: if you mean #ubuntu, you can discuss it in #ubuntu-ops, this channel should be for debian support in english only, not ubuntu, mandrake, french, ... |
| 15:28.28 | Booumbo | mi |
| 15:28.31 | stew | Booumbo: if you don't have anything debian related, please keep quiet, thanks :) |
| 15:28.38 | Booumbo | deja vu^^ |
| 15:28.59 | Booumbo | si ta qdes questions |
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| 15:29.16 | stew | Booumbo: i'm giving you a 10 minute break in here, perhaps we can talk privately |
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| 15:33.56 | abrotman | guess he didn't want to |
| 15:34.26 | stew | he did, but as expected, not to any satisfactory result |
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| 15:36.56 | DarkUranium | o/ |
| 15:37.00 | DarkUranium | ...again |
| 15:37.07 | JordiGH | Okay, this isn't something I hadn't foreseen. |
| 15:37.12 | Agiofws | will you help me install a debian kernel in parallel with my vanilla kernel in my upgrade process ? |
| 15:37.15 | JordiGH | What happens if you disconnect during ssh install? |
| 15:37.19 | Agiofws | stew, |
| 15:37.35 | lemonn | Hi. I am using lenny with lxde. when I start emacs ,a emacs window show up in X.How do I call the text-mode emacs? |
| 15:37.36 | stew | Agiofws: is there something wrong with the method in the release notes? |
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| 15:37.45 | stew | lemonn: emacs -nw |
| 15:37.49 | Agiofws | i am just not sure what to do ? |
| 15:38.02 | lemonn | stew: thx |
| 15:38.07 | Agiofws | after upgrade |
| 15:38.58 | stew | Agiofws: determine which flavor of the kernel package you should install |
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| 15:40.23 | Agiofws | apt-get install linux-image-2.6-flavor ? |
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| 15:40.51 | stew | Agiofws: yes, after you determine the flavor |
| 15:41.01 | xro | stew, do you think zcat mifile.gz >> myfile will give me a correct file? |
| 15:41.41 | stew | xro: only if myfile doesn't already exist (since you are appending (>>) instead of creating a new file (>)) |
| 15:41.58 | stew | xro: (assuming, of course, that mifile.gz is a valid gzipped file) |
| 15:42.17 | Agiofws | Linux ixus 2.6.31.6 #3 SMP Mon Nov 30 00:08:58 EET 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:42.25 | stew | xro: oh wait, if you got "unexpected end of file' then no, i don't think so |
| 15:42.55 | xro | stew, but zcat will read all line and stop at the EOF no? |
| 15:43.13 | Agiofws | apt-cache show linux-image-2.6-686 ? |
| 15:43.22 | xro | stew, it will give me a new file uncompressed but without the end? |
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| 15:43.33 | Booumbo | mi? |
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| 15:44.34 | stew | Agiofws: sure |
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| 15:44.51 | Agiofws | minimal stage has not finished yet |
| 15:44.58 | stew | xro: yes, it will stop at EOF i suppose. you will be left with an incomplete uncompressed version |
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| 15:45.36 | xro | stew, but more than 200 Go for a 50Go compressed seems to be nealy complete no? |
| 15:46.06 | JordiGH | Should something horrible happen and I need to restart the installation, I can skip the "shred /dev/sda" part, right? |
| 15:46.07 | stew | xro: i don't know how you would know that without the original |
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| 15:46.41 | xro | stew, just because 50 --> 200 is already a good ration, no? |
| 15:47.16 | stew | xro: its highly variable depending on the contents |
| 15:47.28 | xro | stew, mysqldump |
| 15:47.52 | xro | stew, so if i get most of my tables it's better than nothing |
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| 15:56.43 | sisif | Hey, guys, is there such thing as backports repos for squeeze ? |
| 15:57.37 | stew | sisif: yes, but empty, currently |
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| 15:58.29 | sisif | stew: thank you |
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| 15:59.38 | JordiGH | wishes backports for squeeze were used as soon as squeeze were frozen. |
| 15:59.48 | JordiGH | Uploading backports to experimental is dumb. :( |
| 16:00.11 | Agiofws | Total disk space freed by localepurge: 392764 KiB |
| 16:00.29 | Agiofws | i would like to remove virtualbox |
| 16:00.37 | Agiofws | how do i find out its name ? |
| 16:02.02 | dkr | dpkg -l|grep virtualbox |
| 16:02.02 | dpkg | dkr: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 16:02.11 | stew | JordiGH: there are downsides to that as well, of course |
| 16:02.23 | JordiGH | stew: Such as? |
| 16:02.38 | stew | JordiGH: and there are certainly downsides (currently) to putting new versions in unstable instead of experimental |
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| 16:03.02 | stew | JordiGH: we want upgrades from squeeze+backports to wheezy to be seemless |
| 16:03.38 | Bartzy|away | How can I remove the annoying icon : "A package manager is working" ? |
| 16:04.13 | Agiofws | ok stew how do i choose my flavor ? |
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| 16:05.12 | yaaar | howdy |
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| 16:06.09 | Agiofws | ok |
| 16:06.29 | Agiofws | apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 ? |
| 16:06.52 | Agiofws | ixus:/usr/src# uname -r |
| 16:06.52 | Agiofws | 2.6.31.6 |
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| 16:07.21 | Agiofws | in which directory is the kernel installed ? |
| 16:07.50 | Agiofws | is menu.lst edited automatically ? |
| 16:08.13 | btavakkoli | Hi, what's the program that part Debian repositories to DVD ? |
| 16:08.25 | tvm | Agiofws: /boot |
| 16:08.30 | Agiofws | can anyone in here help me install my first debian based kernel |
| 16:08.32 | stew | Agiofws: /boot and /lib/modules/$version, and typically yes |
| 16:08.41 | Agiofws | is menu.lst edited automatically ? |
| 16:08.48 | stew | Agiofws: yes |
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| 16:09.04 | Agiofws | will it delete previous lines in menu.lst ? |
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| 16:09.16 | Agiofws | ok so now i do |
| 16:09.21 | stew | Agiofws: it will create lines for all the kernels it finds |
| 16:09.24 | Agiofws | apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 ? |
| 16:09.30 | stew | yes |
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| 16:11.02 | Agiofws | stew, what does udev do ? |
| 16:11.07 | stew | !udev |
| 16:11.07 | dpkg | [udev] /dev/ and hotplug management daemon. Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of <DevFS>, dependent upon a Linux kernel >= 2.6.15 (>= 2.6.27 for Squeeze). Ask me about <70>, <udev squeeze>, <udev rules>, <udev details>, <.dev>, <dpin>. http://wiki.debian.org/udev http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html |
| 16:11.25 | rswarbrick | Hi: There's a (fixed) bug #599903 in common-lisp-controller which is caused by incorrect config files. Unfortunately, the upgrade didn't delete an old config file that it *had* installed and which caused the bug to continue to happen. What's the policy here? Is this a bug in common-lisp-controller? Should I open one or reopen #599903? |
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| 16:12.11 | stew | rswarbrick: if this upgrade was a proposed fix to 599903 that didn't actually fix the bug, reopen it |
| 16:12.40 | rswarbrick | Ok, thanks. Just wanted to check that I hadn't misunderstood. |
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| 16:13.21 | latenite | Hi folks, I try to install "diaspora" and get this error: websever:~# gem install bundler |
| 16:13.22 | latenite | ERROR: could not find gem bundler locally or in a repository |
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| 16:13.53 | latenite | I do it by this how to: http://achton.net/2010/09/installing-diaspora-on-debian-linux/ but dont knwo what to fo now. |
| 16:14.22 | Agiofws | Update disk device IDs in system configuration? stew ? |
| 16:14.57 | stew | rswarbrick: please doublecheck with "dpkg -s packagename" that conffile md5sums match the expected ones before the upgrade |
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| 16:15.19 | stew | rswarbrick: (indicating that they should be automatically upgraded to the new version) |
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| 16:15.32 | stew | Agiofws: without more context, I dont' understand your question |
| 16:15.44 | diega | hi, I'm on sid and I wasn't upgrading b/c I was traveling. Yesterday I run the super dist-upgrade and everything went fine but after reboot my machine is 10 degrees more than normal... any idea how can I trace who is raising this? (none apparent high cpu consumption by anybody) |
| 16:15.55 | Agiofws | there is a promt stew |
| 16:16.02 | rswarbrick | stew: Hmm, there's not a "new version" of the conf file. Instead there's a new config file (called 01-blah.conf instead of blah.conf). I think this might be what caused the problem? |
| 16:16.03 | Agiofws | ^^ |
| 16:16.04 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/126716 |
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| 16:16.59 | Agiofws | what should i do ? |
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| 16:18.58 | latenite | Hi folks, why is gem not finding the pakage bundler? ERROR: could not find gem bundler locally or in a repository |
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| 16:27.09 | Argafal | since an unexpected power outage I have trouble with all utf-8 characters on the console. a question mark is shown instead. any hints how to fix that? fsck came back without any trouble so I have no indications what to do. |
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| 16:28.51 | Lekram | hello everyone |
| 16:28.55 | Lekram | could someone tell me which package installs the polkit-auth command |
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| 16:29.35 | Lekram | apt-file don't show me anything |
| 16:30.06 | Agiofws | stew, ok i installed the kernels what should i do now ? |
| 16:30.07 | username17 | Apt-search cache polkit. ? |
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| 16:30.22 | stew | Agiofws: what is the next step? |
| 16:30.30 | Agiofws | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 16:30.33 | stew | Agiofws: no |
| 16:30.35 | stew | try again |
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| 16:30.43 | Agiofws | apt-get install udev |
| 16:30.54 | macrobat | Lekram: maybe "apt-file search $(which polkit-auth)" |
| 16:30.58 | Agiofws | ? |
| 16:31.01 | latenite | I never used git. Why is it not working. http://pastebin.com/h62wgzjn I have it installed though. |
| 16:31.08 | Bartzy | Hi |
| 16:31.18 | Bartzy | I'm using debian squeeze 64-bit.. how can I install adobe flash player ? |
| 16:31.30 | stew | Agiofws: i don't know, i don't have the release notes in front of me. hopefully you do. I'm sure that yes udev needs to be upgrade and maybe something else and definately a reboot before you proceed |
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| 16:31.38 | stew | Agiofws: please just consult the release notes instead of me |
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| 16:31.54 | Agiofws | Once you have upgraded both the kernel and udev the system should be rebooted. |
| 16:32.00 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Bartzy about flash |
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| 16:32.19 | Agiofws | i should reboot with .... the new kernel and if that hangs i will try with my vanilla ? |
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| 16:32.42 | Agiofws | oh well |
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| 16:35.14 | macrobat | latenite: install git-core |
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| 16:35.40 | latenite | macrobat, I did ..thanks that heloed. |
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| 16:36.44 | latenite | machine1, But I aso need "gem install bundler" from ruby but it cant be found here. this howot demands bundler http://achton.net/2010/09/installing-diaspora-on-debian-linux/ |
| 16:38.06 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: So I must install it using nspluginwrapper |
| 16:38.07 | Bartzy | ? |
| 16:38.19 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: Why flashplugin-nonfree isn't working if there's a amd64 port for it ? |
| 16:38.42 | macrobat | latenite: i don't really know how ruby gems work |
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| 16:40.13 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: There may be a beta version of the 64b from adobe available. |
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| 16:40.42 | Bartzy | jhutchins_lt: I can't seem to find it.. maybe they removed it for some reason ? |
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| 16:41.15 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: Debian packagers have tried to make it easier, but Adobe does not cooperate. |
| 16:43.12 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions flashplugins-nonfree |
| 16:43.14 | Bartzy | where should I put libflashplayer.so ? |
| 16:43.14 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'flashplugins-nonfree' was found in i386. |
| 16:43.22 | Bartzy | ,versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 16:43.23 | judd | Package flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- etch-backports/contrib: 1:1.4~bpo40+1; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.8.2~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8.2; squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2 |
| 16:43.23 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 16:43.24 | judd | Package flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- etch-backports/contrib: 1:1.4~bpo40+1; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.8.2~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8.2; squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2 |
| 16:43.43 | Bartzy | I have downloaded the library.. but where should I put it :| |
| 16:44.09 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: There are many options, did you read the documentation above? |
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| 16:44.27 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: The docs that dpkg msg'd you? |
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| 16:45.07 | Bartzy | yes I did. |
| 16:45.18 | Lekram | macrobat: my problem is that i don't have polkit-auth command on my system |
| 16:45.29 | Bartzy | But I now downloaded a new adobe 64-bit "square" flash player.. that's how they call it. It's a single libflashplayer.so, I have no idea where to put it. |
| 16:46.10 | Bartzy | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq - In here it says the best bet would be to use 32-bit flash player with some ia32 packages.. but I would rather use adobe's 64-bit new version... |
| 16:46.33 | babilen | Bartzy: Are you using squeeze? |
| 16:47.12 | Bartzy | babilen: yes, 64-bit. |
| 16:47.36 | DotHack | Anyone able to install Squeeze in XenServer 5.6? |
| 16:47.42 | babilen | Bartzy: You just have to install "flashplugin-nonfree" for the flash plugin. No need to manually dabble with libraries |
| 16:48.01 | Bartzy | babilen: It won't work in firefox. |
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| 16:48.36 | AlexC_ | morning |
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| 16:49.29 | AlexC_ | can you have too much entropy? I had an issue whereby I had very little, so I installed 'rng-tools' and configured it to use /dev/urandom as a source. After installing it, requests to Apache on this server were very very slow, but disabling it sped them back up. What could be the issue? |
| 16:49.37 | macrobat | dpkg tells me that the flashplugin-nonfree pkg wont keep updated |
| 16:49.42 | babilen | Bartzy: I can assure you that it does :) There must be something wrong with your setup then. Do you have any old manual installations around? What does "about:plugins" say about Shockwave Flash -- You should have Shockwave Flash 10.2 d161 |
| 16:49.55 | babilen | macrobat: Which factoid is that? |
| 16:50.09 | Bartzy | babilen: I downloaded firefox today from getfirefox.com (I don't want to use Iceweasel) |
| 16:50.24 | macrobat | babilen: "adobe flash" |
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| 16:50.46 | babilen | Bartzy: That might be a problem. One second please |
| 16:50.55 | Bartzy | about:plugins doesn't show any plugins... :| |
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| 16:51.13 | babilen | macrobat: Thanks for that, I wasn't aware of that. But now that I consider how it works it is quite logical. :-\ |
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| 16:51.44 | macrobat | i usually dabble with the flash lib manually :D |
| 16:51.47 | babilen | yay, new flash version :) |
| 16:52.28 | babilen | Bartzy: What is wrong with iceweasel? |
| 16:52.35 | jhutchins_lt | Bartzy: iceweasel IS firefox. |
| 16:52.40 | macrobat | idk, maybe firefox need newer _other_ libraries to work right? |
| 16:53.01 | jhutchins_lt | macrobat: No. |
| 16:53.02 | babilen | macrobat: No, Iceweasel == Firefox + DFSG |
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| 16:53.30 | mbruins | what is the "right/correct" application to extract rar with i normal use unrar |
| 16:53.31 | macrobat | i was thinking about how iceweasel is a few versions behind |
| 16:53.45 | Bartzy | babilen, jhutchins_lt: Iceweasel was v3.5.... I wanted firefox 3.6 |
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| 16:54.09 | Bartzy | babilen, jhutchins_lt: Installing firefox 3.6.12 from experimental is fine ? |
| 16:54.20 | themill | Bartzy: You've spent most of the day getting other people to do lots of work for you when "aptitude install iceweasel" would just work. If you want to use things outside of debian, perhaps you should ask the people that make them rather than us. |
| 16:54.35 | Bartzy | firefox=iceweasel |
| 16:55.12 | Bartzy | themill: I explained my problem. Iceweasel version is 3.5. 3.6 is much better. Firebug works in 3.6 but not in 3.5. |
| 16:55.35 | stew | firebug works for me in iceweasel from squeeze |
| 16:55.40 | babilen | Bartzy: I completely agree with themill and installing iceweasel from experimental might pull in a newer xulrunner and I remember to read about some problems with that on d-d. Can't be more specific about the details right now though |
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| 16:57.03 | stew | Bartzy: what problem do you have with firebug in 3.5. it works well for me |
| 16:57.19 | Bartzy | stew: I just wasn't able to install it via the addons window in iceweasel... |
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| 16:57.32 | Bartzy | and the addons website said it was for 3.6 + |
| 16:58.03 | sisif | hmm, do you guys know what might be the best driver for a ati HD2400? Right now I`m using radeon one and maaan, each piece of Flash is killing my CPU. Does anyone recomends somthing else? (as in driver) |
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| 16:58.40 | babilen | Bartzy: There is xul-ext-firebug |
| 16:58.47 | Bartzy | oh. |
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| 16:59.26 | babilen | Bartzy: It might be related to the fact that iceweasel 3.5 depends on xulrunner 1.9.1 while 3.6 depends on xulrunner 1.9.2 |
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| 16:59.42 | Bartzy | ok.. |
| 17:00.52 | babilen | Bartzy: Please "aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree iceweasel xul-ext-firebug" and you are done. If you want help with newer versions from upstream, go there and ask them (â #firefox / #mozilla) |
| 17:01.13 | Bartzy | OK. wasn't aware ok xul-ext-firebug, sorry. |
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| 17:01.21 | Bartzy | ok=about :p |
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| 17:02.09 | Agiofws | babilen, stew i upgraded but my xfce4 looks crappy and i think its looking for disks names while boot up ... http://pastebin.ca/2013002 |
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| 17:02.22 | babilen | Bartzy: But installing it from within iceweasel shouldn't be a problem. It might just be that your firefox 3.6 chokes on xulrunner-1.9.1 -- But I don't know enough about the packaging to be certain about it. |
| 17:02.26 | Agiofws | and its says something about udev failed |
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| 17:02.52 | stew | Agiofws: what happens with the newer kernel? |
| 17:03.01 | Agiofws | have not tried it yet |
| 17:03.11 | Agiofws | should i try ? |
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| 17:03.20 | babilen | yes, please |
| 17:03.22 | stew | Agiofws: yes, that was the point of rebooting |
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| 17:03.42 | Agiofws | is it logical that /var/log/messages are empty ? |
| 17:04.53 | thewanderer1 | sure, one logical explanation is that no syslog daemon is running, the other one being a rootkit... |
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| 17:05.28 | stew | another being that little or nothing is configured to go there by syslog's config |
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| 17:08.38 | Phil-Work | hum, GNU date's date strings... is it possible to get 1st of the month in format %F? |
| 17:09.03 | Phil-Work | `date -d "month" +%F` for example returns 2011-01-07 |
| 17:09.20 | Phil-Work | need that for the 1st day of the current month |
| 17:10.53 | jhutchins_lt | Phil-Work: Wouldn't that always be <year><month>01? |
| 17:11.05 | Phil-Work | yeh |
| 17:11.10 | jhutchins_lt | Why is your clock in 2011? |
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| 17:11.19 | Phil-Work | it's not |
| 17:11.28 | Phil-Work | month apparently is "next month" |
| 17:11.28 | jhutchins_lt | typo? |
| 17:11.34 | jhutchins_lt | Ah. |
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| 17:12.00 | Bartzy | how do I change a priority of a link in update-alternatives ? |
| 17:12.01 | Phil-Work | guess I just need a different format and a concat |
| 17:12.02 | Phil-Work | thanks |
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| 17:12.12 | pyrophelia | how do folders with "drwx--S---" happen? and what does it mean |
| 17:12.25 | stew | Bartzy: why do you want to? |
| 17:12.31 | stew | pyrophelia: its g+s but not g+x |
| 17:12.52 | stew | pyrophelia: chmod 2700 |
| 17:12.55 | Bartzy | stew: Because google chrome inserted itself in priority 200, and I want iceweasel to be default automatically... |
| 17:13.11 | jhutchins_lt | Phil-Work: Interesting, I'm getting -su: 2011-01-07: command not found |
| 17:13.24 | skamikaze | pyrophelia: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html |
| 17:13.33 | Phil-Work | jhutchins_lt, remove the `s |
| 17:13.36 | stew | Bartzy: "update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" selecting one will set the link to "manual" instead of "automatic" and ignore the priorities |
| 17:13.40 | jhutchins_lt | pyrophelia: google "sticky bit". |
| 17:13.45 | Phil-Work | date -d "month" +%F |
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| 17:14.03 | Phil-Work | I can't find a man page which lists the valid date strings |
| 17:14.11 | Bartzy | stew: Yeah, I was just asking how to change the priority (so it'll be auto), because I didn't succeed :)( |
| 17:14.50 | stew | Bartzy: you can look at how the alternative is installed in the postinst script for the package, note that you'll have to adjust it any time the package is upgraded |
| 17:15.16 | Bartzy | stew: Oh.. and the manual definition will stick, even when upgrading ? |
| 17:15.38 | joeyjones | how can i upgrade from stable to backports? |
| 17:15.43 | stew | Bartzy: if you make an alternative link manual, it stays manual |
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| 17:15.59 | Agiofws | stew, i get a Udev message in boot up but i cant with hold it it scrolls down quickly but its not one message its thousands ... its looking for devices or something like that and my desktop is crappy ... |
| 17:16.01 | stew | joeyjones: see the instructions page at backports.debian.org |
| 17:16.04 | joeyjones | *how can i upgrade 1 package from stable to backports? |
| 17:16.11 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/126723 |
| 17:17.02 | Agiofws | and this is the new kernel |
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| 17:17.20 | jhutchins_lt | Phil-Work: info coreutils 'date invocation' |
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| 17:17.49 | jhutchins_lt | joeyjones: instructions are on the page at http://backports.debian.org |
| 17:18.31 | jhutchins_lt | Agiofws: Try the Pause key. |
| 17:18.59 | jhutchins_lt | Agiofws: udev messages should be in dmesg too. |
| 17:19.52 | stew | Agiofws: looks like everything is working to me. I'd continue with the upgrade |
| 17:20.34 | stew | Agiofws: if you were previously using some non-free kernel driver for your graphics card, you'd have to add that to this kernel as well |
| 17:20.42 | jhutchins_lt | Agiofws: All I can tell from your screenshot is that your virtual desktop may be larger than your actual desktop. |
| 17:20.45 | babilen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.58 | tharkun | Gentlemen, Sorry to bother I need a lightweight alternative to gnome. Any suggestions? |
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| 17:21.45 | jhutchins_lt | tharkun: xfce's pretty popular. http://freedesktop.org is definitive. |
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| 17:22.00 | tharkun | jhutchins_lt: thx for the link |
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| 17:22.14 | stew | Agiofws: i'd recommend that you not worry about how xfce looks until you finish the upgrade to squeeze |
| 17:22.19 | babilen | tharkun: LXDE, XFCE, fluxbox, xmonad, awesomewm, wmii, dwm |
| 17:22.32 | babilen | Agiofws: Ah, you haven't upgraded completely yet? |
| 17:22.38 | tharkun | babilen: thx but tiled window managers are out of the question |
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| 17:22.52 | babilen | tharkun: Have a look at the first three then |
| 17:22.53 | stew | babilen: no, he's done apt-get upgrade, the kenrel + udev and reboot |
| 17:23.16 | babilen | stew: Ah, I've been out of the loop for a while and thought that Agiofws might be done by now. |
| 17:23.21 | tharkun | babilen: writing them down thx |
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| 17:24.23 | babilen | tharkun: I would assume that either LXDE or XFCE might be what you are looking for but all the *box WMs are nice too. I would try LXDE first :) |
| 17:24.51 | atula | I was trying to install ntfs-3g a while back and I think it installed fuse utils as well... I figure since I don't need that anymore, perhaps I could safely remove it. do I need fuse at all ? |
| 17:24.59 | tharkun | babilen: lxde is having some isues to open a window. It has to be manually done. It was indeed my first option |
| 17:25.07 | atula | I am tempted to just apt-get --purge remove fuse-utils |
| 17:26.26 | babilen | tharkun: *shrug* #lxde might know how to solve that :-\ |
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| 17:26.44 | cyryczy | i forgot my question |
| 17:26.45 | babilen | tharkun: But I am not quite sure what you mean by "It has to be manually done" |
| 17:26.55 | babilen | cyryczy: That's fine |
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| 17:27.28 | cyryczy | not for me : P |
| 17:27.48 | cyryczy | ok |
| 17:28.04 | cyryczy | why my .xinitrc or .xsession scripts are being ignored? |
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| 17:28.27 | cyryczy | my .xsession is |
| 17:28.29 | cyryczy | #!/bin/bash |
| 17:28.29 | cyryczy | unclutter -idle 5 -jitter 50 & |
| 17:28.46 | cyryczy | but it's not running |
| 17:28.53 | babilen | cyryczy: Are you using something like Gnome? |
| 17:28.59 | cyryczy | babilen, yes |
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| 17:29.31 | cyryczy | is it a problem? |
| 17:29.44 | babilen | cyryczy: Don't add an .xsession then, but add the program to "autostart" (somewhere in the session config) -- .xsession has to be selected as session in gdm, but that won't start Gnome. |
| 17:29.53 | babilen | (at least your .xsession won't start gnome) |
| 17:29.56 | AphelionZ | Hi all, I'm having a hell of a time trying to install slapd with apt-get. Can anybody help me? Here's a pastie of what happens when I try: http://pastie.org/1356119 |
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| 17:30.04 | cyryczy | um |
| 17:30.05 | cyryczy | ok |
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| 17:30.14 | tharkun | babilen: the window in question has to have certain dimensions when opened It behaves properly on kde, gnome, sawmill, ion3, awesome, ir3 and a bunch of others. but when opened on lxde it will not use the assigned space. The user has to enlarge it manually. |
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| 17:30.45 | cyryczy | babilen, what if i run xsession script in gdm and put 'gnome-session' in there? : P |
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| 17:32.37 | peabodi | my cpu running close to 100% but I can't find what process is using it |
| 17:32.38 | Muncuie | _ ( ( ( Made in Indonesia ) ) ) _ |
| 17:32.43 | Muncuie | _ ( ( ( Made in Indonesia ) ) ) _ |
| 17:32.48 | Muncuie | _ ( ( ( Made in Indonesia ) ) ) _ |
| 17:32.53 | Muncuie | _ ( ( ( Made in Indonesia ) ) ) _ |
| 17:32.58 | Muncuie | _ ( ( ( Made in Indonesia ) ) ) _ |
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| 17:33.08 | Muncuie | _ ( ( ( Made in Indonesia ) ) ) _ |
| 17:33.27 | CaT[t3] | i fail to understand the purpose of that spam |
| 17:33.29 | peabodi | any ideas? |
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| 17:33.43 | babilen | tharkun: Ah, yeah. That sounds like a bug. |
| 17:34.05 | CaT[t3] | pea: i take it top's not helping? |
| 17:34.12 | peabodi | nope |
| 17:34.25 | peabodi | it shows the use but not the process |
| 17:34.29 | cyryczy | CaT[t3], perhaps he would like us to think that IRC was made in Indonesia |
| 17:34.31 | CaT[t3] | pea: are you judging this by load or actual cpu taken? |
| 17:34.58 | peabodi | from system monitor |
| 17:35.09 | peabodi | and top |
| 17:35.16 | peabodi | load |
| 17:35.18 | stew | peabodi: which number in top? |
| 17:35.26 | stew | peabodi: load isn't neccessarily cpu |
| 17:35.27 | CaT[t3] | pea: check for processes stuck in D state |
| 17:35.48 | stew | peabodi: can you show us the output of "vmstat 1 10" in a pastebin |
| 17:35.54 | cyryczy | am i right? |
| 17:37.09 | peabodi | pastebin? |
| 17:37.20 | stew | peabodi: http://paste.debian.net for instance |
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| 17:37.42 | babilen | cyryczy: The easiest way is certainly to just go to the session properties and add a new startup program there. Take a look at /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55gnome-session_gnomerc "man gnome-session" and ~/.gnomerc (which is probably what you want) |
| 17:38.35 | CaT[t3] | pea: ps aux | grep D |
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| 17:39.35 | peabodi | problem with using pastebin iceweasel shuts everything down thn |
| 17:39.54 | CaT[t3] | pea: anything from the ps grep? |
| 17:40.01 | Iridos | !tell peabodi -about pastebinit |
| 17:40.24 | stew | peabodi: in the last 4 columns of the vmstat output, which of us, sy, id, wa are consistently large? |
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| 17:42.18 | peabodi | us |
| 17:42.20 | peabodi | user |
| 17:42.25 | peabodi | OI guess |
| 17:42.29 | Iridos | hm, as paste.debian.net isn't the default and the submit-format of pastebin.com changed at least once in lenny... perhaps would make sense to make that "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" in the factoid? |
| 17:42.51 | peabodi | using sid/Squeeze |
| 17:43.47 | jhutchins_lt | peabodi: top has the option of sorting by CPU usage or RAM. |
| 17:43.57 | peabodi | using gdm3 this morning didn't work either |
| 17:44.18 | jhutchins_lt | Defaults to cpu I guess. |
| 17:44.19 | babilen | peabodi: as does htop (much nicer to look at than top) |
| 17:44.35 | Iridos | and I think it would be useful if you showed some actual data in a pastebin... the vmstat, perhaps top... |
| 17:46.05 | Iridos | i.e. top -b -n3 |
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| 17:46.59 | JordiGH | wtf, how can the Debian install allow me to say that I don't want it to install a linux at all. |
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| 17:47.08 | JordiGH | how am I supposed to proceed? |
| 17:47.30 | zealiod | how cani use dialog to show percentage of wget download? |
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| 17:48.04 | Iridos | JordiGH, just select the next steps one by one |
| 17:48.07 | peabodi | welll it showws 68.5% user and 30.5% sys |
| 17:48.24 | peabodi | nothing over 17% |
| 17:48.32 | peabodi | 3 users |
| 17:48.36 | JordiGH | Iridos: I mean, I don't get it, how can you use Debian without a kernel? |
| 17:48.45 | peabodi | that's just CPU |
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| 17:49.10 | peabodi | Sys monitor shows 100% |
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| 17:50.10 | Iridos | JordiGH, not sure what _exactly_ you talk about... but - repairing some existing install or something? It's just a lot of kinda modules being called after each other and ultimately it's left to you what you do with them... |
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| 17:50.51 | JordiGH | Iridos: On a clean install while installing the base system, d-i asks me which Linux do I want to install and allows me to answer "none". I don't understand why would I want to say I don't want one. |
| 17:51.11 | stew | JordiGH: if you wanted to install a kenrel the installer doesn't know how to install. a custom kernel |
| 17:51.13 | JordiGH | I mean, if I had a kFreeBSD handy, I get it. But I don't have that. Perhaps I want to install it later? |
| 17:51.21 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: You might want one that's not on the list. |
| 17:51.27 | JordiGH | Ah. |
| 17:51.48 | stew | JordiGH: if you were going to use the install as a chroot (therefor inheriting a running kernel from another install) |
| 17:52.03 | JordiGH | Okay, I understand now. |
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| 17:52.27 | stew | JordiGH: i don't believe, btw, you can run a kfreebsd kerenl with the same userspace |
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| 17:54.40 | JordiGH | stew: Yeah, I guess every binary would need to be recompiled? It's lie a different architecture? |
| 17:55.12 | DarkUranium | soo, how could I forward the subnet to my vserver? anyone? |
| 17:56.51 | foo | I set up a printer on our local linux server. I have nfs/samba on this local linux server. I set up the printer with cups and shared it. I cannot see the printer from windows box, though. I think I need to get samba to talk to cups - any tips? |
| 17:57.05 | Iridos | there's a linux compatibility layer in freebsd, though, iirc that allows you to run elf binaries for linux... but that's sure to cause problems somewhere if you'd try it on a complete linux userland... and it possibly even needs assistance from userspace |
| 17:57.40 | catsup | it should work with debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 17:58.49 | jhutchins_lt | i thought there was a bsd kernel in debian? |
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| 17:59.31 | stew | Iridos: its not about elf, its about the fact the the binaries aren't compiled aginst libc6, they are compiled against something else |
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| 17:59.53 | joltcan | jhutchins_lt: there is a freebsd kernel that can run with debian, but that is not very common afaik. http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ |
| 18:00.17 | latenite | why does apt-get not find the database pakage "mongodb" ? |
| 18:00.34 | JordiGH | wants to try GNU/kFreeBSD just to piss off people who think Linux is GNU/Linux. |
| 18:00.36 | stew | joltcan: yes, but it requires a different userspace, its a completely different arch |
| 18:00.49 | JordiGH | Then I could say I'm running GNU but not Linux. :D |
| 18:00.53 | joltcan | latenite: It doesn't exist? |
| 18:00.57 | babilen | latenite: Only available in Squeeze or Sid |
| 18:01.25 | catsup | JordiGH: traditionally one uses HURD for that purpose |
| 18:01.29 | babilen | !tell latenite -about ssb |
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| 18:01.44 | AimHere | Why would using GNU/BSD piss off the people who support the terminology GNU/Linux? |
| 18:01.46 | babilen | latenite: You could try to backport it to Lenny (I assume that you use that) |
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| 18:01.53 | latenite | babilen, but my webserver is lenny. How can i get mongodb then? |
| 18:02.05 | AimHere | The GNU folks would be happy at the clarity |
| 18:02.08 | latenite | babilen, how is that done? |
| 18:02.11 | JordiGH | AimHere: It would probably piss of BSD people, for example, 'cause they often hate the GPL. :-) |
| 18:02.17 | babilen | latenite: dpkg just told you did it not? |
| 18:02.43 | AimHere | The BSD people are insecure though, and easily trolled. And shrill as fuck. Particularly the OpenBSD people. |
| 18:02.53 | JordiGH | would run GNU/kFreBSD and ask #freebsd for support. It will be glorious. |
| 18:02.58 | latenite | babilen, no http://pastebin.com/w8Yy5S3D |
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| 18:03.15 | babilen | latenite: You can ask dpkg yourself: "/msg dpkg ssb" |
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| 18:03.30 | babilen | latenite: yes, I know. I was referring to dpkg the bot in this channel |
| 18:03.41 | babilen | !ssb |
| 18:03.41 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add ONLY a <deb-src> line for sid to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 18:03.52 | zeitsofa | hello - which package i need for using -j TARPIT in iptables? |
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| 18:04.28 | babilen | zeitsofa: "apt-cache search tarpit" comes up with three on Squeeze |
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| 18:05.52 | zeitsofa | babilen: yes, but two of this are source packages, so i'm not sure which package i need. |
| 18:05.54 | latenite | babilen, how do I check for a backport on <debian-backports> ? is thst a website? sorry for askinf the "dumb" but i never did taht before |
| 18:05.56 | babilen | zeitsofa: xtables-addons-common is probably what you are looking for |
| 18:06.03 | zeitsofa | thx :) |
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| 18:06.23 | yoshio | ,versions mongodb |
| 18:06.24 | stew | latenite: http://packages.debian.org/packagename would list it as being available from a "lenny-backports" dist |
| 18:06.24 | judd | Package mongodb on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.4.4-3; sid: 1:1.6.3-1 |
| 18:06.41 | babilen | zeitsofa: Note the "this package is only useful with a corresponding xtables-addons-modules package ..." in the package description. You might want to read the README.Debian that comes with that package. |
| 18:07.08 | babilen | latenite: I checked, it is not available on backports |
| 18:07.23 | zeitsofa | babilen: ok. thx for the hint |
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| 18:07.48 | babilen | latenite: Hence the recommendation to backport it yourself. The factoid just mentions backports to make sure that you are not backporting a package that is already available on bdo |
| 18:08.21 | babilen | zeitsofa: I should also note that the package is not available in lenny |
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| 18:09.21 | zeitsofa | babilen: i'm using squezze on the system i would use it. |
| 18:09.43 | latenite | babilen, do I add sid or squize to the sources list ? |
| 18:11.27 | DarkUranium | anyone here know a thing or two about debian vservers? |
| 18:12.03 | babilen | latenite: Please, give me a second. |
| 18:12.06 | latenite | babilen, how do I enable debian-backports ? (step 2 drom dpkg) |
| 18:12.24 | stew | latenite: see the instructions page at http://backports.debian.org |
| 18:12.34 | jhutchins_lt | !tell latenite about bdo |
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| 18:13.18 | babilen | latenite: I just want to tell you that mongodb might be quite hard to backport as the dependencies are, well, quite large. (mongodb-server, mongodb-client, bunch of libs and everyhting) |
| 18:13.25 | jhutchins_lt | latenite: /msg judd versions <package> will also show if there is a backport available. |
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| 18:14.28 | babilen | latenite: And a lot of its dependencies are also not available on Lenny. (The whole libboost- ones for example) |
| 18:14.36 | latenite | babilen, so I add "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main" also to my sourecs list? BUT did n you say there was no backport available? why am a enabling it then? |
| 18:15.18 | latenite | can I just updgrade to squeeze somehow? |
| 18:15.20 | stew | latenite: there isn't a backport available, however, in this case, if you try to backport it yourself, i believe you may need some other packages from backports in order to build it |
| 18:15.23 | babilen | latenite: You enable it in order to be able to install (build) dependencies that *are* available from bdo |
| 18:15.43 | latenite | babilen, ahh ok makes sense :) |
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| 18:16.05 | latenite | well I d rather upgrade my websevrer to squeeze. Isn that better anyway? |
| 18:16.23 | babilen | latenite: Sure, upgrading to Squeeze is possible. But I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for a webserver as it does not yet has security support like Lenny |
| 18:16.24 | stew | latenite: no, since there isn't guaranteed security support for squeeze |
| 18:17.08 | latenite | If i wanted to upgrade. How woudl I do it? |
| 18:17.28 | jhutchins_lt | latenite: There are also some critical bugs that prevent squeeze from working properly in some cases. |
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| 18:17.57 | jhutchins_lt | latenite: I would recommend installing it to a seperate partition as a boot option. |
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| 18:18.11 | jhutchins_lt | latenite: You could copy your existing installation and then upgrade it too. |
| 18:18.15 | latenite | So what you are saing is "if you want mongodb (diaspora)" on your webserver...debian is not the best choice?? |
| 18:18.32 | jhutchins_lt | latenite: That way you can boot back to Lenny when squeeze breaks. |
| 18:18.42 | latenite | jhujhiti, it is a lxc so easy to copy |
| 18:18.42 | satskiy | hi a have integrated intel i845 --- X server crashes like zebra ! ! HELP |
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| 18:19.00 | jhutchins_lt | satskiy: squeeze? |
| 18:19.12 | babilen | latenite: I am not sure what to recommend now. Give me a second please. |
| 18:19.14 | satskiy | yes |
| 18:19.33 | babilen | satskiy: And the x server just shows black and white stripes? |
| 18:19.34 | latenite | jhujhiti, just copied the container. so I can go back to lenny just in case. |
| 18:19.36 | jhutchins_lt | satskiy: Works fine in lenny. |
| 18:19.50 | jhutchins_lt | satskiy: Known issue in squeeze. |
| 18:20.03 | babilen | jhutchins_lt: bug report handy? |
| 18:20.29 | satskiy | And the x server just shows black and white stripes!!!! |
| 18:20.41 | jhutchins_lt | babilen: Not handy, no, the laptop with the 855Gm lost it's hard drive. We get regular queries here though. |
| 18:20.46 | satskiy | how to fix |
| 18:21.10 | jhutchins_lt | satskiy: revert to lenny, wait for updated kernel & xorg intel driver. |
| 18:21.47 | satskiy | jhutchins_lt: can i fix it of need downgrade |
| 18:21.50 | jhutchins_lt | satskiy: Earlier versions of the problem could be tinkered with by disabling kms, but the current intel driver in squeeze requires a framebuffer. |
| 18:22.08 | jhutchins_lt | at least last I checked it did. |
| 18:22.25 | jhutchins_lt | satskiy: I do not know of a current fix. |
| 18:22.50 | jhutchins_lt | That's not to say there isn't one, you can search the bugreports. |
| 18:23.25 | jhutchins_lt | satskiy: There are also ongoing discussions in the forums. |
| 18:23.34 | satskiy | where is |
| 18:23.44 | stew | satskiy: try xserver-xorg-video-intel from unstable. its had multiple uploads this week that are supposed to fix a bunch of things that might make the server hang |
| 18:23.50 | babilen | latenite: I would try backporting mongodb from squeeze. Might be a lot of work, but it'll pay off for a production system. I really wouldn't recommend running Squeeze on a web facing server. |
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| 18:24.37 | jhutchins_lt | Or you could just run lenny whch, you know, just works. |
| 18:25.18 | babilen | latenite: Sorry for the inconvenience, but it'll be better once Squeeze is released. Another idea would be to install Squeeze on a different machine/in a vm and only offer services locally. You could also ditch Debian and use, for example, Ubuntu. |
| 18:25.32 | DarkUranium | twitches |
| 18:25.45 | latenite | babilen, honestly, without starting flamewars. If I was to put a lot of effort into my existing webserver at all. I d rather go for something else then debian. I love it...but at the same time I feel others give me more freedom |
| 18:26.11 | DarkUranium | er... vserver help, anyone? =/ |
| 18:27.12 | babilen | latenite: Hence my last suggestion. I don't want to make life hard for you. You could run squeeze as well, but it doesn't give you the security support you receive with Lenny. I am just telling you about your options. |
| 18:27.30 | latenite | might be the wrong place to ask. But which distro is a gowd webserver base? the ones I worked with are(gentoo, debian, ubunutu,arch) |
| 18:28.04 | latenite | babilen, I know and I am very thankfull for ou letting me know :) |
| 18:28.14 | babilen | latenite: And I am OTOH not sure how Squeeze security compares to Arch, Ubuntu or Gentoo :) |
| 18:28.27 | latenite | is arch a system one would want to use for a webserver? |
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| 18:29.02 | stew | if we didn't have the new source pacakge formats in debian, squeeze would have security support by now, its unfortunate |
| 18:29.37 | babilen | latenite: I guess that I would rather run squeeze than arch or gentoo, but I haven't read a good comparison of the security support offered by different distributions. |
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| 18:30.45 | babilen | latenite: And I am just not going to recommend something that doesn't has good security support for a internet facing production machine. |
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| 18:32.20 | latenite | babilen, thas makes sense. So what is secure? cent os? |
| 18:32.37 | babilen | latenite: But I would at least try to backport it. I am sure that compiling gentoo or installing Arch will be much more work. Unfortunate though if it does not work out... (but it just might, haven't seen any real problematic dependencies, just a bunch of them, but haven't resolved the whole dependency graph) |
| 18:32.44 | orfix | Hi, i just installed debian on an external USB hard drive, but couldn't get my laptop to boot from it, it's not recognized by my BIOS (which support USB boot), i also tried to do it manually from grub when i type "root (hd1,0)" i get an error message : Cannot get C/H/S values. help please :) thanks |
| 18:32.53 | jhutchins_lt | latenite: Debian stable is among the most securable. |
| 18:33.02 | jhutchins_lt | latenite: NOTHING is inherently "secure". |
| 18:33.54 | GNU\colossus | jhutchins_lt, a powered down box is ;) |
| 18:34.02 | stew | latenite: wait, you are worried about the security of a webserver that you are going to run diaspora on? isn't that thing known to be full of security problems? |
| 18:34.38 | jhutchins_lt | GNU\colossus: Except that it can be powered up. |
| 18:35.02 | GNU\colossus | jhutchins_lt, but that'd be an ugly hack... |
| 18:35.08 | babilen | stew: *we* are worried about security for lenny on a webserver. AFAICT latenite is rather interested in getting mongodb to work on whatever is the most stable distribution. |
| 18:35.25 | latenite | stew, I have anoterh idea. I sit possibe to run 2 ore more webservers (of different kind and services) for one domain? |
| 18:35.44 | latenite | babilen, "word" |
| 18:35.47 | latenite | :) |
| 18:36.05 | babilen | word? |
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| 18:38.40 | latenite | babilen, word = you said it just like I would ! |
| 18:38.45 | babilen | I think i'll stick to my initial suggestion: try to backport it first. Then look for alternatives. You know your options now. :) Backporting is detailed in the dpkg factoid, upgrading to Squeeze in the release notes and I guess you know where to find installation instructions for whatever distribution you want to install. |
| 18:38.53 | latenite | babilen, found a way to get lenny and mongodb http://pastebin.com/G6Gj820k |
| 18:38.55 | latenite | :) |
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| 18:39.16 | latenite | happy now :) but I will think about a new distro anyway |
| 18:39.32 | orfix | when i boot from my regular drive, i can mount and unmount paritition from the external USB hard drive, here is the fdisk -l output http://debian.pastebin.com/yrjkZMsk |
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| 18:40.46 | babilen | latenite: they backported it. So it is definitely possible. I would still run Debian's version. Good that you are happy now, and have fun with whatever distro you choose. |
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| 18:43.02 | latenite | babilen, you know how lazy one get if all works just fine...so maybe in summer :) thanks a lot for you help :) |
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| 19:17.23 | CyberDomovoy | any good url to learn more about debootstrap scripts and how to write one? |
| 19:17.45 | eAndrius | google.com |
| 19:18.31 | CyberDomovoy | eAndrius: and what should i search for? tried "debootstrap scripts" "debootstrap scripts howto", no luck |
| 19:19.20 | CyberDomovoy | evrything is about how to use debootstrap, not how to create scripts for it |
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| 19:21.10 | stew | CyberDomovoy: i doubt such documentation exists |
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| 19:22.33 | CyberDomovoy | stew: ok, i'll just take a look at existing scripts and the "functions" file and find it by myself then. thx |
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| 19:22.45 | LemensTS | how do i block everything but certain ip's in iptables? |
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| 19:23.04 | LemensTS | do i reject everything first, then allow certain ips after? |
| 19:23.11 | LemensTS | or vice versa |
| 19:23.39 | wildc4rd | evenin all! |
| 19:23.47 | stew | LemensTS: the more specific rules first. since the first rule that matches is the one that is used |
| 19:23.56 | stew | LemensTS: so accept then reject in your case |
| 19:24.05 | LemensTS | stew: thanks |
| 19:24.22 | me|kor | Are there any against the following setup: Debian with xen kernel as dom0 and ontop of it 3 debian paravirtualized servers: personal home NAS with SMB/NFS (LAN) || email/imap server (public www) || webserver (public www) |
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| 19:40.46 | w3gi_ | hallo... i need a mailserver wich i can connect with imap form thunderbird... this server should get the mails from pop3 of my hoster and archive them |
| 19:41.17 | w3gi_ | and it should be possible that the server send the mails alone not with the smpt of the hoster.... |
| 19:41.49 | krisfremen | w3gi_: that's impossible |
| 19:42.09 | w3gi_ | why? |
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| 19:42.29 | krisfremen | because you need two "servers" to do that |
| 19:42.34 | w3gi_ | ok |
| 19:42.35 | krisfremen | an imap and an smtp server |
| 19:42.40 | krisfremen | recommends exim and dovecot |
| 19:42.47 | w3gi_ | and wich ones are easy to handle for a noob? |
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| 19:44.04 | w3gi_ | they should be easy from the config... all construction is behind a firewall... |
| 19:44.10 | abrotman | postfix! |
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| 19:45.54 | w3gi_ | fetchmail to get the mails? |
| 19:48.06 | abrotman | you may need procmail too |
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| 19:48.54 | w3gi_ | is maybe a groupware solution easier ? |
| 19:49.13 | w3gi_ | or does someone know a good tutorial for that? |
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| 19:51.49 | debianer | I downloaded the i386 squeeze dvd because I want to install it on my laptop and don't have a good connection. I installed, it but when it starts at grub it shows amd64, why? The cd when plugged in is i386, I'm confused. |
| 19:51.52 | tharkun | w3gi_: your mileage may vary but why would you want to run your own smtp server when there are lots of free places to do it? |
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| 19:55.05 | marsje | hi all.. I liked to execute a script when someone logs out from a ssh/rsync session, but how? |
| 19:56.28 | w3gi_ | we have huge mails and want to use it for newsletter the same |
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| 19:57.23 | w3gi_ | btw... does someone know how to search for a package? i cant find "webmin" |
| 19:57.58 | CyberDomovoy | ho, debootstrap itself is actually a shell script, interesting :) |
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| 19:58.46 | joltcan | marsje: maybe you can do something with /.bash_logout ? |
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| 19:58.56 | stuckey | hi all |
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| 19:59.01 | joltcan | w3gi_: apt-cache search, or install apt-file and search with thtat |
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| 19:59.15 | w3gi_ | thanks |
| 19:59.20 | stuckey | Why do I often get a message when using scp that says Corrupted MAC on input. // Disconnecting: packet corupt // connection lost ? |
| 19:59.23 | aidehua | How can I kill a jbd2 process? |
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| 19:59.38 | w3gi_ | sorry... i am new in deb. i use normally fedora/centos |
| 20:00.03 | joltcan | w3gi_: Then I suggest you start by reading the debian wiki and the debian documentation from debian.org |
| 20:00.13 | joltcan | stuckey: Over wireless? |
| 20:00.35 | marsje | joltcan: will try it |
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| 20:00.53 | marsje | joltcan: not sure if bash is called at all |
| 20:01.18 | joltcan | marsje: Will, it was a start. I have never deviced such a solution myself |
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| 20:02.29 | hardcode | does anyone have a quick 1400_900 for fb.modes.. nvidia says my monitor is 1440x900_75 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0 |
| 20:03.00 | marsje | joltcan: seems to work... thanks |
| 20:03.41 | hardcode | hrm wow.. probably nvm.. as soon as i ask i realize i thought it was 1400.. another google should fix this |
| 20:04.07 | debianer | Non of you experienced my problem? |
| 20:04.11 | debianer | none* |
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| 20:05.17 | hardcode | yeah i still dont have a fb.modes.. but i got the default xserver... i use to love math |
| 20:05.26 | pittstains | in bash, how do i determine if the last command was successful or not if the command has lots of pipes? |
| 20:05.32 | abrotman | debianer: shows it where? the kernel? |
| 20:06.05 | debianer | abrotman: When I start my laptop, grub shows up the kernel version and after that ,amd64. |
| 20:06.24 | pittstains | $? seems to always be 0; must be that the last command in the pipe is always successful, but that doesn't really tell me what I want |
| 20:06.31 | joltcan | marsje: You might be able to do something funky with pam as well http://linux.bononline.nl/linux/pamscript/01/build.html |
| 20:07.13 | debianer | abrotman: I don't know why, when I'm in nautilus, I can see there squeeze....i386....(dvd name). |
| 20:07.27 | debianer | abrotman: And the iso is named also i386... |
| 20:07.37 | abrotman | debianer: dpkg-architecture .. what is the first line? |
| 20:07.54 | joltcan | pittstains: I guess you have to try the exit code for each step. You could use $$ or || for that as well |
| 20:08.14 | debianer | abrotman: Just a second to boot up my laptop. |
| 20:08.33 | abrotman | awful impatient for someone who doesn't even have the system booted :) |
| 20:08.38 | joltcan | pittstains: like if "foo || exit 1" etc |
| 20:09.01 | pittstains | joltcan: not quite following you... |
| 20:09.02 | hardcode | can i still blow up my monitor? if i start playing with fault tolerances of this SYNCMASTER lol... anyone else tryed to fry a lcd monitor? |
| 20:09.14 | pittstains | ohhhhhhh |
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| 20:09.45 | pallgone | anyone have an idea why mouse cursor is stuttering in KVM (squeeze amd64, fedora14 in VM)? |
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| 20:10.09 | Chris-D | yo yo people |
| 20:10.11 | debianer | abrotman: Where do I type that? |
| 20:10.21 | stuckey | joltcan: no wireless |
| 20:10.27 | pittstains | joltcan: does "foo || bar" operate like "do command foo, and if that fails do command bar?" |
| 20:10.45 | debianer | abrotman: In the terminal the output is command not found. |
| 20:11.05 | latenite | is there a backport for "redis-server" ? |
| 20:11.22 | Chris-D | Got a question... I setup Debian core (netinstall) in an ESXi VM... I can SSH into it fine locally, but not externally. Firewall port forwarding is working, but when trying to SSH in from the outside, it times out. From all of my testing, it appears Debian is blocking outside SSH for some reason. |
| 20:11.45 | Chris-D | Any ideas hopefully? |
| 20:11.49 | joltcan | pittstains: yeah |
| 20:11.51 | pallgone | Chris-D: -vvv ? |
| 20:11.57 | Chris-D | haven't tried |
| 20:12.06 | debianer | abrotman: uname -r shows me 2.6.32-5-amd64. |
| 20:12.17 | pittstains | joltcan: what is the $$ option you mentioned? |
| 20:12.21 | Chris-D | when doing sshd -d --- it shows no activity on the server when trying from the outside |
| 20:12.42 | debianer | abrotman: This is confusing, the dvd when it's plugged in it shows me squeeze di b1 i386 Bin-1....and uname -r shows amd64...?!!?!? |
| 20:12.43 | Chris-D | also using IPCop as my firewall |
| 20:12.56 | Chris-D | and SSH worked fine on other ubuntu and debian installs |
| 20:13.03 | joltcan | stuckey: I have mostly seen it on wireless with bad connections. Try and check your cables and see if that helps. I would suspect it to be more hardware related |
| 20:13.18 | joltcan | pittstains: the opposite. If it worked, do this |
| 20:13.23 | Chris-D | maybe I didn't configure ssh to allow outside connections, but cant find any settings for that |
| 20:13.24 | pallgone | Chris-D: check with nmap if the port is open |
| 20:13.34 | Chris-D | ok, from the outside? |
| 20:13.40 | pallgone | Chris-D: yeah |
| 20:13.40 | Chris-D | i mean |
| 20:13.41 | Chris-D | ok |
| 20:13.42 | Chris-D | brb |
| 20:13.50 | Chris-D | bbiab |
| 20:13.55 | pittstains | joltcan: thanks, i think that's all I need! |
| 20:13.56 | abrotman | debianer: what does 'dpkg-architecture' say? |
| 20:14.02 | joltcan | pittstains: good luck! |
| 20:14.07 | debianer | abrotman: Command not found |
| 20:14.23 | abrotman | debianer: uname -a ? |
| 20:14.50 | joltcan | stuckey: Since I don't know anything about your rig, I just suggest that shift PCI slots etc could also work |
| 20:14.58 | debianer | abrotman: linux 2.6.32.5 amd64....x86_64 gnu/linux |
| 20:15.16 | abrotman | install the dpkg-dev package |
| 20:16.07 | debianer | abrotman: What does that package do? |
| 20:16.27 | joltcan | stuckey: You could also try another protocol to see if you have the same issues there, like http/ftp or whatnot |
| 20:16.37 | abrotman | it gives you the command i keep asking you to run |
| 20:16.38 | latenite | Hi folks, I have a "Lenny" and need to have "redis-server" How can I get it? I cant find it in backports nor with regular apt. I am lost now |
| 20:16.44 | joltcan | stuckey: and see if you can find something that points to where the problem is |
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| 20:17.34 | debianer | abrotman: Ohhh ok, I have to switch connections, and what will this package show me? |
| 20:17.52 | abrotman | the command i keep asking you to run |
| 20:18.46 | debianer | abrotman: Sounds logical, the only thing is that I forgot my root password, ohh only great news. |
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| 20:19.05 | jelly-home | gives abrotman "dpkg --print-architecture", and a copy for debianer |
| 20:19.12 | abrotman | oh yeah! |
| 20:19.20 | abrotman | debianer: that's not good |
| 20:19.35 | abrotman | debianer: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 20:19.50 | debianer | abrotman: That command shows me i386. |
| 20:19.57 | debianer | abrotman: Now I'm really confused.:D |
| 20:20.34 | jelly-home | it's a 32bit debian with a 64bit kernel, what's confusing about it?!? |
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| 20:22.09 | debianer | jelly-home: Well trust me for a gnu/linux beginner it is. So basically if I got a i386 dvd why do I have a 64 bit kernel? |
| 20:22.30 | debianer | jelly-home: And if I wnt to install flash player, I get 32 or 64 bit version? |
| 20:22.57 | jelly-home | debianer: you use eveything 32bit. |
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| 20:23.42 | debianer | jelly-home: Ok |
| 20:24.15 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 20:25.04 | debianer | jelly-home: The only thing left now is to install my broadcom 4312. By any chance do you know what LP-PHY is? |
| 20:25.55 | neocortex | Hello! Can anyone help me with the Firestarter: I just installed it and set it up, but after reboot I get 'failed' when Firestarter starts. Any idea? |
| 20:26.09 | jelly-home | debianer: 'fraid not, I can only answer hardware related questions about hardware that I own or can get my dirty little hands on it. If you give me one I'll give it a shot. |
| 20:27.02 | stuckey | joltcan: okay thanks -- it does this all the time. I thought it was normal. |
| 20:27.03 | jelly-home | debianer: it's a different question how you ended up with an -amd64 flavor kernel. It's not usual for a workstation system, since there are features which do not work with it. Suspend/hibernation in particular. |
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| 20:28.01 | debianer | That's what I found confusing, If i got the i386 dvd, how did I get stuck with that kernel and not a 32 bit one. |
| 20:28.10 | pallgone | debianer: not a big problem to reset the root pw, give the right kernel parameter and there you go |
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| 20:28.30 | debianer | I do have 4 gb of ram...but I don't think it automatically installs the kernel depending on ram. |
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| 20:32.42 | Chris-D | pallgone, nmap from the outside does not show 22 being open - but remember, from the inside I can ssh in no problem. I know what it looks like, IPCop isn't forwarding the port, and maybe so, but it's forwarding everything else to other computers ok. |
| 20:33.02 | Chris-D | pallgone, do you know if the bare, core install of debian, blocks outside SSH ? |
| 20:33.19 | Chris-D | because I did a quick netinstall with just the core system, and installed ssh |
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| 20:33.32 | Chris-D | didn't configure anything, and can SSH into it locally no prob |
| 20:33.35 | pallgone | Chris-D: no, it shouldn't. |
| 20:33.47 | stuckey | Is there a how-to or tutorial anywhere for making quick .debs from source? I have something that I want to use that is available only as source, and I'd like to have it installed with dpkg if possible. |
| 20:34.26 | pallgone | Chris-D: from "inside" you can ssh "in"? |
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| 20:34.43 | hardcode | outside? isnt that a question to ask your internet router? who would ever ssh localhost.. so outside must mean.. internet? |
| 20:35.08 | Chris-D_ | yes, from the outside meaning the wan |
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| 20:35.41 | Chris-D_ | hardcode, my firewall (router) is IPCop, and its configured correctly |
| 20:35.58 | pallgone | Chris-D_: aha, so you have port forwarding? |
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| 20:36.12 | subsume | I found http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/xapian-core but i don't see it while using apt-cache search |
| 20:36.16 | hardcode | im curious if sshd_config permits root logins by default.. and why? |
| 20:36.16 | Chris-D_ | pallgone, yes, through my IPCop |
| 20:36.20 | subsume | i'm using lenny fyi |
| 20:36.31 | Chris-D_ | hardcode, yes it does, but I'm not even to the point of logging in |
| 20:36.45 | Eggdrops | hi, after I added the user to Debian each user can see others folder how can I fix this |
| 20:37.14 | pallgone | Eggdrops: change the permissions |
| 20:37.38 | Chris-D_ | change permissions on the home and subfolders |
| 20:37.52 | Eggdrops | how can you please help me with that |
| 20:37.52 | hardcode | Chris-D_: yeah i see that in most linux distros now.. but i thought it was a security flaw.. but now i wonder if ssh is considered exploitable so they figure.. it would be harder to bruteforce a good root password then.. just exploit the deamon for really close to root access to the system |
| 20:38.15 | subsume | if I'm looking for xapian on debian should I juse get http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libxapian15 since xapian-core seems to be missing? |
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| 20:38.32 | hardcode | Eggdrops: man chmod; man chown |
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| 20:38.40 | Eggdrops | thanks |
| 20:39.15 | hardcode | ls -al might help too look at . and .. closely.. and use su from root for faster checkage of what you are breaking |
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| 20:39.30 | Chris-D | it's really weird this ssh thing... also, I had enabled ESXi's SSH and thought it might have been that (since this Debian is a VM in ESXi), but I commented out the SSH option, and still the same thing |
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| 20:39.44 | pallgone | Chris-D_: well, if nmap is not showing the port to be open from outside there is something wrong |
| 20:39.53 | Chris-D | I thought so too lol |
| 20:40.05 | Chris-D | but only to this Debian box :) |
| 20:40.06 | Chris-D | ok, bbiab |
| 20:40.09 | Chris-D | thanks though |
| 20:40.37 | hardcode | isp might block it.. change the port if you need access from the wan |
| 20:40.40 | pallgone | you have more that one machine accessible from outside? |
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| 20:41.19 | neocortex | Any help for Firestarter?! |
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| 20:42.23 | Chris-D | hardcode, talked to ISP today already, they block no ports... also it used to work ok |
| 20:42.33 | Chris-D | pallgone, ya, but a few windows boxes... but... |
| 20:42.34 | enthdegree | Wierd, running startx flashes up the xserver and then quits, but it comes up fine if I get rid of my ~/.xinitrc |
| 20:42.46 | Chris-D | have an ubuntu laptop at home, I will turn on and test out later (when I'm off work) |
| 20:42.53 | Chris-D | I will install ssh there, and see whats going on |
| 20:42.54 | Chris-D | lol |
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| 20:43.12 | pallgone | ok, good luck :) |
| 20:43.15 | Chris-D | thanks :) |
| 20:43.40 | hardcode | Chris-D: anyone can seem to be honest when they dont know they are lieing |
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| 20:44.21 | Chris-D | true - but... when I had ssh enabled on my ESXi host..... |
| 20:44.38 | Chris-D | I got furthure when I attempted to SSH into that one |
| 20:44.43 | Chris-D | so that tells me 22 is open |
| 20:45.15 | Chris-D | It either has something to do with ESXi ---- or Debian |
| 20:45.19 | Chris-D | in my mind |
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| 20:46.01 | pallgone | Chris-D: I would blame ESXi, debian normally doesn't block ssh |
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| 20:46.51 | hardcode | yeah... im lost; i didnt relize vm was playing tag with nics |
| 20:46.51 | Chris-D | thats what I was thinking - but since this was a very clean / simple install, didn't know if I was missing something |
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| 21:08.07 | pittstains | joltcan: (and anyone else who was following my thread about reading exit codes in a pipeline) i found a better approach: use the PIPESTATUS array |
| 21:08.14 | pittstains | e.g. echo ${PIPESTATUS[2]} |
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| 21:34.39 | HackeMate | hello |
| 21:34.42 | HackeMate | i dont know how to fix this http://pastebin.com/Bvg5wTGd |
| 21:34.56 | jelly-home | pittstains: #!/bin/bash ? |
| 21:35.00 | HackeMate | when i get this error i unnistall nx and its ok, but now i even cant unnistall it because of this error |
| 21:35.04 | HackeMate | im stuck and angry |
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| 21:38.38 | hanshans_ | hi all! i'm looking for a debian network setting: where can i put domain names so that this network is automatically searched for hosts? f.ex. instead for typing 'ssh myname@host.my.domain.com', i can type 'ssh myname@host', but i have to put 'my.domain.com' somewhere... i know there's such an option but i just don't know where... |
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| 21:39.33 | dutchfish | hanshans_: man hosts |
| 21:40.29 | supaplex | hanshans_: resolv.conf if it's all the same domain, or ~/.ssh/config if you don't want to modify /etc/hosts (and ssh+friends only though) |
| 21:40.32 | neonlightning | hanshans_: or you could just use an alias to quickly connect using the full |
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| 21:41.28 | hanshans_ | dutchfish: supaplex: neonlightning: resolv.conf, that's what i'm looking for... thx a lot! |
| 21:43.29 | pittstains | jelly-home: what's the question, exactly? |
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| 21:44.11 | K-Lighter | Can anyone help me with these errors: http://pastebin.com/GYkeMHqf ? been trying to fix / google for hours without a positive result |
| 21:44.15 | jelly-home | pittstains: is PIPESTATUS bash-only functionality? |
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| 21:45.10 | jelly-home | pittstains: (also implied, "don't forget to make your script a /bin/bash script, not /bin/sh script") |
| 21:45.28 | pittstains | jelly-home: yes, i believe it is, but bash is the only environment I'm familiar with, so i may be wrong |
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| 21:45.44 | dutchfish | K-Lighter: have yo configured your locales properly? dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:45.49 | pittstains | on my system, /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash |
| 21:45.53 | jpinx-eeepc | why does "chroot /mounted/image" give me "chroot: cannot execute /bin/sh: No such file or directory" ? |
| 21:45.56 | K-Lighter | dutchfish; tried that - no positive result |
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| 21:49.45 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 21:49.46 | jelly-home | jpinx-eeepc: a) there really is no /bin/sh inside the chroot; b) the dynamic loader required to run that /bin/sh is missing (/lib/ld-linux.so.2) or c) the kernel currently running cannot execute that binary since it's a different architecture; I believe c) results in a slightly different message |
| 21:49.55 | lenswipe | im trying to start openarena and i get the message: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem |
| 21:50.06 | lenswipe | its been broken ever since the xorg update a few weeks ago |
| 21:50.13 | lenswipe | along with compiz |
| 21:50.22 | Nwallins | Hi, I installed ngircd, and the daemon is running, but there is no conf file in /etc/ngircd/ (only an example.conf.gz) |
| 21:50.46 | Nwallins | is the example.conf.gz being read for the currently running daemon? |
| 21:50.55 | dutchfish | K-Lighter: can you pastebin the content of /etc/locale.gen on this box? |
| 21:50.56 | jelly-home | jpinx-eeepc: which debian release are you using? Is debian inside the chroot, outside, or both? uname -a? |
| 21:51.10 | lenswipe | can someone help with this? |
| 21:51.32 | lenswipe | its been broken ever since the xorg update that was pushed down by the debian developers thats done nothing but break my system |
| 21:51.35 | Nwallins | er, hmm. nevermind, the conf file is there now. weird |
| 21:52.13 | K-Lighter | dutchfish; http://pastebin.com/H9FaRTSY |
| 21:52.14 | lenswipe | anyone? |
| 21:52.40 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly-home: ah-ha . maybe I built the image under different architecture. I built the image off squeeze using lenny in the eeepc and copied it over to the N900, and trying mount under maemo, so your option c) is really possible :) |
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| 21:53.20 | dutchfish | K-Lighter: seams ok |
| 21:53.33 | K-Lighter | dutchfish; yep.. its weird |
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| 21:54.24 | K-Lighter | dutchfish; I get these too: http://pastebin.com/1mW85r5m |
| 21:54.44 | thewanderer1 | jpinx-eeepc: wait, did you really copy a i386 chroot to an ARM machine? :P |
| 21:54.49 | thewanderer1 | (or was it MIPS?) |
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| 21:55.06 | neonlightning | arm |
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| 21:55.26 | ragnar_de | hi all |
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| 21:55.56 | novacaine | how do i see the file installed by a selected package (installed) |
| 21:55.58 | dutchfish | K-Lighter: is your system up 2 date? is this lenny? have try to reinstall locales like: aptitude reinstall locales ? |
| 21:56.12 | ragnar_de | hi all |
| 21:56.55 | K-Lighter | dutchfish; trying something - will try after this finishes |
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| 21:57.04 | dutchfish | K-Lighter: ok |
| 21:57.41 | ragnar_de | how do i find out which file belongs to which package ( for example : /usr/bin/foobar => foobar.1.1.1.deb ) |
| 21:57.44 | jpinx-eeepc | thewanderer1: not as simple as that, I used arm-built image of squeeze tto copy into a bigger image file, but I did that using lenny. |
| 21:57.47 | dutchfish | K-Lighter: i am not sure id all the locales will work with quota btw |
| 21:57.50 | regenbogenfuesse | hi. I use gnome-ppp to connect to the Interent via USB-Modem, after 2 System crashes i found this file: http://pastebin.com/NBqdm3LC is this what is causing my issue, and or what can i do that this file doesnt get produced anymore |
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| 21:57.57 | jelly-home | ragnar_de: dpkg -S /path/to/file |
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| 21:58.06 | K-Lighter | dutchfish; nothing to do with quota |
| 21:58.12 | ragnar_de | jelly-home: thx |
| 21:58.24 | jelly-home | !tell ragnar_de about apt-file |
| 21:58.38 | jelly-home | !tell ragnar_de about dlocate |
| 21:59.01 | thewanderer1 | jpinx-eeepc: are you sure that /mounted/image/bin/sh exists? |
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| 21:59.09 | jelly-home | ragnar_de: dlocate -S is much faster than dpkg -S, but only updates its database daily |
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| 22:00.31 | thewanderer1 | jpinx-eeepc: other than that, I also had this error message, but on Damn Small Linux trying to run Debian binaries - apparently the host glibc was too old to support the chroot's binaries |
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| 22:00.53 | thewanderer1 | I'd be very surprised if this happened to you on Maemo5, though |
| 22:00.57 | jelly-home | oh that too |
| 22:01.09 | thewanderer1 | is there any reason you're not using Easy Debian from the packages? |
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| 22:02.27 | lenswipe | anyone? |
| 22:02.32 | lenswipe | im trying to start openarena and i get the message: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem |
| 22:02.34 | lenswipe | its been broken ever since the xorg update that was pushed down by the debian developers thats done nothing but break my system |
| 22:02.39 | lenswipe | along with compiz |
| 22:02.44 | stuckey | I have a source tarball that's been debianized and I want to build it with pdebuilder -- what command do I need to use? |
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| 22:09.26 | ragnar_de | can i remove the cpufreq* services on a desktop pc? |
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| 22:13.17 | andreas122 | how i can start-up the ''sudo nm-applet'' automaticly??? |
| 22:13.34 | andreas122 | i have fluxbox WM only |
| 22:13.41 | andreas122 | debian lenny |
| 22:13.54 | ragnar_de | andreas122: put it in your ~/.xinitrc |
| 22:14.49 | stuckey | Does anyone know how to build from source with pbuilder? |
| 22:14.59 | stuckey | I get dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b Kilian-f.lux-indicator-applet-81ae105 gave error exit status 255 |
| 22:15.42 | andreas122 | ragnar_de: where is this folder? |
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| 22:16.22 | stew | stuckey: "pdebuild" |
| 22:16.35 | ragnar_de | it's a file in your home folder. put it in this file. the last character has to be a "&" to start the applet in background |
| 22:17.14 | stuckey | stew: I get an error : http://paste.debian.net/101803/ |
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| 22:17.48 | ragnar_de | andreas122: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xinitrc |
| 22:18.40 | stew | andreas122: why are running it with sudo? just add your user to the netdev group instead |
| 22:19.11 | stew | andreas122: ~ is an alias for your home directory |
| 22:19.24 | stew | andreas122: how do you login to debian? via a graphical login? via text and then "startx" ? |
| 22:20.16 | stew | stuckey: you need to be in the directory containing the debian directory, not the debian directory itself |
| 22:20.27 | stew | stuckey: and in the directory above that should be the .orig.tar.gz |
| 22:20.29 | tharkun | toast to the patience of stew |
| 22:20.54 | stuckey | stew: does it need to have any special name? (the oringal tar) |
| 22:20.56 | stew | stuckey: note that debian policy requires pacakge names to be all lowercase, but I'm guessing you might not care |
| 22:21.04 | stew | tharkun: with jam please |
| 22:21.21 | stew | stuckey: yes, it needs to be packagename_version.orig.tar.gz |
| 22:21.24 | andreas122 | with startx |
| 22:21.58 | stew | andreas122: then you might already have either an .xinitrc or .xsession in your hime directory which is starting fluxbox |
| 22:22.20 | andreas122 | home/username? |
| 22:22.23 | stuckey | stew: how do I find out packagename_version? |
| 22:22.29 | ragnar_de | andreas122: yes |
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| 22:23.35 | stew | stuckey: the first line of debian/changelog would be "packagename (version) dist; urgency |
| 22:24.13 | andreas122 | this is a folder? becouse i cant see somethink like that in the filemanager (i can see hidden files). |
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| 22:24.17 | stew | stuckey: and the pacakgename should match the first line of debian/control as "Source: packagename" |
| 22:24.36 | ragnar_de | andreas122: it's a file |
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| 22:24.54 | ragnar_de | andreas122: if you dont have it, create it |
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| 22:24.59 | stew | andreas122: no, its a shell script which is executed when you 'startx', when the script completes, X shuts down. so likely you want the last line of the script to be something like "exec fluxbox" |
| 22:25.23 | stuckey | stew: That did it! Now, pdebuild wants root, and when I give it, it says stuckey isn't in the suders file. |
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| 22:25.46 | andreas122 | it is the: .Xauthority ? |
| 22:26.30 | stew | stuckey: "when I give it" ? |
| 22:26.40 | ragnar_de | andreas122: no, .xsession or .xsession |
| 22:26.40 | stew | andreas122: no, .Xauthority is somehting else |
| 22:26.41 | stuckey | (the root password) |
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| 22:27.40 | andreas122 | i have only this file: .xsession-errors |
| 22:27.44 | andreas122 | is the right? |
| 22:27.54 | ragnar_de | andreas122: nope |
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| 22:28.15 | stuckey | stew: the root password, it says I'm not in the suderos file. |
| 22:28.29 | andreas122 | hm, then i dont have this file, but i can run flux when ran startx automaticaly. |
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| 22:28.56 | andreas122 | run* |
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| 22:30.42 | ragnar_de | andreas122: do you have >>> /etc/X11/Xsession <<< ? |
| 22:31.51 | andreas122 | yes |
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| 22:33.22 | ragnar_de | andreas122: take a look at the man page first ( man Xsession ) ! you can really harm your X with it. |
| 22:33.26 | stuckey | How do I add myself to the sudoers file? |
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| 22:33.59 | andreas122 | ragna_de: ok |
| 22:34.16 | andreas122 | stucky: its the 'visudo' commant |
| 22:34.22 | ragnar_de | andreas122: or online. her for example : http://pwet.fr/man/linux/formats/xsession |
| 22:34.29 | stuckey | usage: visudo [-c] [-q] [-s] [-V] [-f sudoers] |
| 22:35.12 | stuckey | I don't understand why I can't run something as root if I'm not in this suoders file -- what is it anyway? |
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| 22:36.05 | jimcooncat | I've been fighting to upgrade an ubuntu desktop with 10.4 and 10.0, and can't get around the xorg problems with my nvidia NV18 card. Possibly a debian install would work better? |
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| 22:38.15 | andreas122 | stuckey: use su commant to go root on the terminal. then look the google, to ''How to edit with visudo'' or somethink like that. |
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| 22:39.27 | stuckey | Do I just add myself to the bottom of that file? |
| 22:39.34 | stuckey | Anyone want to tell me what this is/what it does? |
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| 22:40.31 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: The manpage and file comments are pretty thorough. |
| 22:40.40 | macrobat | stuckey: man sudoers and learn about backus-naur form :D |
| 22:42.22 | andreas122 | stuckey, i dont think tha you need it, but me a have it becouse is more eazy and meaby better compatibility. |
| 22:42.50 | andreas122 | stuckey: it depents, if you are ok now, you dont need it. |
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| 22:50.45 | stuckey | http://paste.debian.net/101806/ <--- anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 22:51.38 | jimcooncat | I'm going to buy a new video card. Any recommendations? I use no effects. |
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| 22:52.37 | jimcooncat | sorry wrong channel |
| 22:52.53 | ragnar_de | stuckey: you have to install >>> libxxf86vm1 <<< |
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| 22:53.43 | stuckey | ragnar_de: it is installed |
| 22:55.56 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: What is it you're trying to install? |
| 22:56.04 | ragnar_de | stuckey: dunno then. it should be in /usr/lib . run ldconfig as root an try again |
| 22:56.26 | stuckey | jhutchins_lt: https://github.com/Kilian/f.lux-indicator-applet |
| 22:57.16 | andreas122 | me am still dont know what xsession file i have to edit |
| 22:57.37 | andreas122 | so i can run the nm-applet at start up. |
| 22:58.33 | ragnar_de | andreas122: if you dont have in your home folder then edit the one in /etc/X11 . i guess you are the only one who uses your computer. |
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| 22:59.37 | andreas122 | i have to run it with root? becouse before i was using the iwconfig commants to connect. and this is working only with root, i think. |
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| 23:00.07 | andreas122 | yes |
| 23:00.25 | ragnar_de | andreas122: dont run, edit it. and yes, you have to be root to edit it. |
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| 23:03.55 | acemi_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:04.29 | acemi_ | andreas122: or in [startup] section in ~/.fluxbox/apps |
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| 23:05.02 | ragnar_de | wow, a flux pro :) |
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| 23:06.41 | andreas122 | acemi, i have tried this, but after then the flux wasent start anymore |
| 23:06.47 | andreas122 | i dont know why |
| 23:07.08 | stuckey | jhutchins_lt: is there a comparable app in the repos? |
| 23:07.26 | acemi_ | did you add & at the end of your application line? |
| 23:07.56 | acemi_ | andreas122: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Editing_the_startup_file |
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| 23:08.13 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: Not that I know of. For fluxbox, right? |
| 23:08.24 | stuckey | jhutchins_lt: no it isn't just for fluxbox. |
| 23:08.44 | jhutchins_lt | Cool. I may try it out when they get closer to a release. |
| 23:09.27 | stuckey | jhutchins_lt: it works fine now -- I've tried it. I would like to install it this time though dpkg instead of just running the binary. |
| 23:10.00 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: I wonder why they don't offer a .deb |
| 23:10.26 | stuckey | The stuff on github is debanized. One just needs to figure out how to build it. |
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| 23:15.01 | stuckey | jhutchins_lt: do you know where I can get help building the package? |
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| 23:16.14 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: That is something I have not yet done in debian, I have been content with available packages. I would suggest contacting the developer or whatever support channel he may have set up. |
| 23:17.05 | ragnar_de | ok, bye all |
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| 23:20.52 | candle_ | hello |
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| 23:21.04 | s1gnius | I have create a group and then added the relevant users to that group. I want to give that group of users read + write permissions to a directory but i am unsure how to do this |
| 23:21.05 | candle_ | this is urgent please someone help |
| 23:21.10 | s1gnius | Can someone advise |
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| 23:21.33 | f00li5h | candle_: what do you want? |
| 23:21.45 | s1gnius | There is no GUI on the box only console |
| 23:21.46 | candle_ | i upgraded to squeeze but its seems i HAVE alot of unmet deps i cannot even... get into GUI ... |
| 23:21.50 | candle_ | f00li5h: |
| 23:21.57 | f00li5h | s1gnius: make the group the owner of the directory (chown) and then give give the group +wr (chmod) |
| 23:22.09 | candle_ | apt-get -f install does not fix them |
| 23:22.12 | stuckey | jhutchins_lt: sent the maintainer email |
| 23:22.31 | candle_ | stew: its Agiofws .. |
| 23:22.34 | s1gnius | f00li5h: Thanks |
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| 23:22.45 | candle_ | i really need help |
| 23:23.00 | candle_ | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. |
| 23:23.04 | candle_ | E: Unable to correct dependencies |
| 23:23.06 | candle_ | ? |
| 23:24.03 | candle_ | anyone ? |
| 23:24.47 | candle_ | i upgraded to squeeze but its seems i HAVE alot of unmet deps i cannot even... get into GUI ... E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.E: Unable to correct dependencies |
| 23:24.51 | candle_ | ? |
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| 23:25.14 | f00li5h | candle_: how about you stop repeating yourself |
| 23:25.33 | f00li5h | the message says it might be caused by "held packages" ... have you read the man pages for that? |
| 23:26.03 | candle_ | i don't have synaptic to fix it i have no GUI |
| 23:26.13 | candle_ | man apt ? |
| 23:26.21 | Arrowmaster | use aptitude |
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| 23:26.38 | nameless` | hi |
| 23:26.49 | nameless` | is there a upnp daemon other than mediatomb ? |
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| 23:28.11 | candle_ | can anyone help me ? |
| 23:28.33 | JakDaRippa | this may not be appropriate for this channel but...i'm trying to setup yahoo mail (free service) with evolution. i've done it before, but can't find the url that told me how. anyone with the proper server settings??? |
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| 23:29.15 | f00li5h | candle_: 102503 < Arrowmaster> use aptitude |
| 23:29.31 | candle_ | APT::Get::Fix-Missing ? |
| 23:29.50 | pittstains | arg, does anyone know how to disown jobs that belong to another user? i started a job with a user which has /bin/sh only (no bash), and i need to logout |
| 23:29.52 | candle_ | how do i fix held back pakages ? |
| 23:31.10 | jhutchins_lt | nameless`: gmediaserver |
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| 23:32.25 | jhutchins_lt | candle_: We can't help if you won't try what we suggest. |
| 23:33.13 | candle_ | jhutchins_lt: i just issued aptitude unhold |
| 23:33.16 | candle_ | ? |
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| 23:33.45 | jhutchins_lt | candle_: how about aptitude -f install |
| 23:34.14 | candle_ | jhutchins_lt: did not fix anything |
| 23:34.29 | candle_ | but now its removing a hole lot of packages |
| 23:35.00 | jhutchins_lt | candle_: What did you do to get into this mess? |
| 23:35.21 | jhutchins_lt | candle_: Just let it run. |
| 23:35.22 | acemi_ | quick upgrade from lenny to squeeze |
| 23:35.35 | jhutchins_lt | Ah. Not following the guides or anything. |
| 23:35.58 | jhutchins_lt | Sorry, I thought that was candle replying to me. |
| 23:36.02 | candle_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.07 | jhutchins_lt | candle_: Yep. |
| 23:36.22 | Arrowmaster | you broke it, reinstall |
| 23:36.25 | jhutchins_lt | candle_: What did you do to trigger this problem? |
| 23:36.28 | candle_ | will it leave me with a terminal and bash ? |
| 23:36.44 | jhutchins_lt | candle_: Probably. It may even rebuild the things it's removing. |
| 23:36.47 | candle_ | i upgraded from lenny to squeeze |
| 23:36.54 | candle_ | i hope so |
| 23:36.59 | Arrowmaster | yes but how did you upgrade |
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| 23:37.13 | jhutchins_lt | !lenny->squeeze |
| 23:37.24 | babilen | dpkg: lenny->squeeze |
| 23:37.24 | dpkg | Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list and change lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,` udev". Make sure you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". See also <testing> <testing security> <squeeze release notes>. |
| 23:37.39 | babilen | jhutchins_lt: dpkg does not like the combination of ! and -> |
| 23:38.00 | candle_ | i followed ^^ |
| 23:38.02 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: lenny->squeeze? |
| 23:38.02 | dpkg | Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list and change lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,` udev". Make sure you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". See also <testing> <testing security> <squeeze release notes>. |
| 23:38.08 | jhutchins_lt | D'Oh. Sorry. |
| 23:38.12 | ethanol | I'm trying to mount a nfs share from 2 remote machines. one instantly mounts it, the other just fails. using -v they both pretty much walk through all the same steps. except after mount.nfs: trying 10.0.1.1 prog 100005 vers 3 prot UDP port 2049 the first machine succeeds, the second just stalls. any one a clue perhaps? both lenny machines, up to date |
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| 23:39.00 | candle_ | Current status: 1 broken [-37], 390 updates [-174], 27570 new [-17]. |
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| 23:39.19 | jhutchins_lt | candle_: Is it done? |
| 23:39.22 | babilen | candle_: You followed that procedure? Did you have a look at the release notes for Squeeze? They contain a lot of details on how to conduct the upgrade. |
| 23:40.31 | babilen | candle_: That certainly does not look as if you succeeded with the update. Might I ask which steps you have completed so far? Have you already installed a new kernel, upgraded udev and rebooted? |
| 23:43.07 | candle_ | babilen: off course |
| 23:43.22 | candle_ | babilen: when i did the minimal upgrade all was well |
| 23:43.42 | candle_ | but when i did the dist upgrade all went wrong |
| 23:44.35 | babilen | candle_: So, you are at 4.5.6 in the release notes? |
| 23:45.34 | acemi_ | i think there is a missing ' for lenny->squeeze info of dpkg. at the end of 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,` part |
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| 23:47.23 | babilen | acemi_: Might be, Please make sure it is indeed missing (looks like it) and change the factoid accordingly |
| 23:48.14 | acemi_ | i tried. it seems that it must be: linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` |
| 23:48.34 | babilen | takes out his glasses |
| 23:48.55 | acemi_ | a ' before the last ` |
| 23:49.26 | babilen | acemi_: Yeah, it is missing. Great that you've spotted it :) |
| 23:49.37 | themill | fixed, thanks |
| 23:50.44 | pittstains | there's no way to change the owner of a running process, is there? |
| 23:51.42 | pittstains | i'd like to disown a process, but i started the user who started it uses /bin/sh as a shell, and hence disown isn't available |
| 23:52.15 | pittstains | i thought maybe i could take over the process then disown it... |
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| 23:58.03 | babilen | pittstains: Not quite sure if that is what you after, but you can tell "su" which shell to execute with the "-s / --shell" option |
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| 23:59.06 | babilen | pittstains: But doesn't disown only works on jobs started in the current shell? Check the help for it ... |
| 23:59.27 | pittstains | babilen: yeah, disown only work in the current shell |
