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| 00:03.37 | parabola2 | omg |
| 00:03.42 | parabola2 | gparted sees my nvidia fakeraid |
| 00:03.46 | parabola2 | but i cannot resize the kids |
| 00:03.48 | parabola2 | disk* |
| 00:03.53 | parabola2 | anyone run into this? or seen this before |
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| 00:04.02 | abrotman | honey, i shrunk the kids |
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| 00:05.03 | parabola2 | any ideas? |
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| 00:09.03 | bloor | anyone knows which standard font aterm uses? try to use it with urxvt |
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| 00:12.44 | parabola2 | weee |
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| 00:23.33 | parabola2 | man this channel is like terri shalvo |
| 00:23.36 | parabola2 | nothin movin. |
| 00:24.20 | bloor | god i got eye cancer with this little *** font -.- |
| 00:25.10 | parabola2 | hehe |
| 00:25.11 | parabola2 | sup bloor? |
| 00:25.20 | parabola2 | i'm hiding out in my office, wifeys having a potluck or some shit |
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| 00:27.48 | bloor | want another font^^ |
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| 00:31.57 | parabola2 | webchat, i cant help you |
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| 00:32.12 | parabola2 | I CAN TYPE IN CAPS, DOES THAT HELP |
| 00:32.59 | tharkun | Gentlemen, i need to make an ssh tunnel from server b to server a so mail from server A can be delivered to mail on server B Gentlemen what would be the google key words to acomplish this task? |
| 00:33.32 | parabola2 | ssh tunnel +howto +debian -openvpn |
| 00:33.38 | parabola2 | thats what i would guess |
| 00:34.58 | kurt_h | !ssh tunnel |
| 00:34.58 | dpkg | somebody said ssh tunneling was at http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/faq/howto/sshtunneling.html, or at http://www.uoregon.edu/~miyake/sshtunneling/, or at http://www.google.com/search?q='ssh+tunneling' |
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| 00:35.18 | parabola2 | oqnws |
| 00:36.02 | parabola2 | okay so i was told that debian supported fakeraid |
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| 00:36.22 | parabola2 | i'm in the installer, i've already resized the NTFS partition, and it does not show up |
| 00:36.28 | tharkun | kurt_h: thx for directions |
| 00:36.28 | parabola2 | no /dev/mapper business going on here, i just see 2 HDs |
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| 00:36.34 | parabola2 | anyone have any info :( |
| 00:36.47 | kurt_h | tharkun: you're welcome |
| 00:37.11 | kurt_h | dpkg has some info! |
| 00:37.11 | dpkg | kurt_h: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 00:37.15 | kurt_h | !fakeraid |
| 00:37.15 | dpkg | [fakeraid] a term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS. For use with Debian systems, it is suggested that you do not set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID instead; ask me about <md>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
| 00:37.35 | parabola2 | ... |
| 00:37.38 | Arrowmaster | parabola2: you have to start the installer a special way |
| 00:37.40 | kurt_h | or is that the info you've already read? |
| 00:37.46 | Arrowmaster | it should be mentioned on that page |
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| 00:37.51 | parabola2 | reading now |
| 00:38.32 | Arrowmaster | i did it once but then it blew up at one point and i couldnt get it fixed so i just removed one drive and went on without raid |
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| 00:38.53 | kurt_h | does anyone know how to get dpkg (the channel bot) to page search results? if you use 'listkeys x' it only gives the first 15 results. how can i see the rest? |
| 00:39.15 | abrotman | kurt_h: can't AFAIK .. use the web search |
| 00:39.25 | kurt_h | oh |
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| 00:41.27 | tharkun | abrotman: this link http://www.uoregon.edu/~miyake/sshtunneling/ from this factoid key ssh tunnel is dead |
| 00:41.38 | parabola2 | yay ty that worked |
| 00:41.41 | parabola2 | no ext4? |
| 00:41.49 | abrotman | tharkun: and you want me to fix it? :) |
| 00:42.16 | tharkun | abrotman: last time i tried to fix a factoid on a bot it wouldn't talk to me for a month ;P |
| 00:42.28 | parabola2 | !xfs |
| 00:42.28 | dpkg | The filesystem developed by SGI for high-performance (metadata-only) journalling and large disk support. Zeroed files on power failures is fixed since Linux 2.6.17 (http://lwn.net/Articles/279036/). Supposedly not as mature, in linux, as <ext3>. Unable to be shrunk. Broken on ARM (BTS #423562). http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ #xfs on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:42.42 | parabola2 | hm |
| 00:42.47 | abrotman | tharkun: done! |
| 00:42.49 | parabola2 | !ext3 |
| 00:42.49 | dpkg | methinks ext3 is the One True Filesystem. If you have to ask what filesystem you should be using, use ext3. Ask me about <ext2->ext3>, <resize2fs>, <ext2fsd>, <ext2ifs>, <filesystems>. FAQ: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 |
| 00:42.53 | abrotman | parabola2: msg the bot |
| 00:42.57 | parabola2 | sorry |
| 00:43.04 | tharkun | abrotman: also this link is dead |
| 00:43.12 | tharkun | http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/faq/howto/sshtunneling.html |
| 00:43.20 | abrotman | oh ffs! |
| 00:43.21 | tharkun | ups wrong link |
| 00:43.25 | abrotman | find me working ones! |
| 00:43.33 | parabola2 | no ext4 on squeeze i see |
| 00:43.34 | parabola2 | thats no good |
| 00:43.35 | no_maam | by the way, it the behaviour of a filesystem specified, in the case I am writing a file and power fails |
| 00:43.42 | abrotman | parabola2: yes, it has it |
| 00:43.43 | tharkun | fetches www.google.com for abrotman |
| 00:43.50 | no_maam | would it be OK, if the part I was writing is filled with zeros? |
| 00:43.53 | abrotman | tharkun: you give me URLs to feed it .. that's fine |
| 00:44.01 | parabola2 | hm, abrotman its not in the list.. |
| 00:44.10 | parabola2 | abrotman: is your first name Adam by any chance? |
| 00:44.13 | tharkun | abrotman: ok let me look for them i'll report asap |
| 00:44.22 | abrotman | parabola2: it's pretty obvious |
| 00:44.28 | parabola2 | i didnt whois you. |
| 00:44.46 | parabola2 | i think whois is rude |
| 00:44.52 | kurt_h | abrotman: how about this one: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/38/Tunneling_connections_securely_with_SSH |
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| 00:45.16 | abrotman | dpkg: ssh tunneling is also http://www.debian-administration.org/article/38/Tunneling_connections_securely_with_SSH |
| 00:45.19 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
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| 00:52.18 | parabola2 | shit, grub didnt load |
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| 00:53.19 | parabola2 | go mdraid |
| 00:53.21 | broking | JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN |
| 00:53.44 | Arrowmaster | parabola2: grub2 doesnt support fakeraid afaik |
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| 00:53.58 | parabola2 | Arrowmaster: then why did debian willingly set it up? |
| 00:54.02 | azomoas | can anyone help me test my ftp? |
| 00:54.05 | parabola2 | seems kind of stupid to offer support that you know wont work |
| 00:54.15 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt have |
| 00:54.27 | Arrowmaster | did you use ext4? |
| 00:54.33 | parabola2 | Arrowmaster: no, it wasnt even an option |
| 00:54.35 | parabola2 | EXT3 |
| 00:55.05 | parabola2 | it asked if it shoudl install grub to the MBR on the first disk in the SATA raid, then it detected other OS"s |
| 00:55.07 | azomoas | anyone can help me test my ftp server ( connenction wise ) ? |
| 00:55.11 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if grub-legacy is even an option in the installer anymore |
| 00:55.20 | parabola2 | azomoas: waste of time, goto canyouseeme.org |
| 00:55.25 | parabola2 | and put in the damn port you want to check |
| 00:55.44 | parabola2 | Arrowmaster: no idea, why would the old version support it, and the new one not? |
| 00:55.55 | Arrowmaster | because nobody sane uses it |
| 00:56.10 | Arrowmaster | so its very low on their priority list |
| 00:56.24 | parabola2 | why does everyone act like this about fakeraid? |
| 00:56.33 | Arrowmaster | because its bad |
| 00:56.35 | parabola2 | same failure issues if i used a stripe on softraid |
| 00:56.45 | parabola2 | if i lose a drive, i lose a drive |
| 00:56.55 | parabola2 | unless you're saying the guy who coded mdraid is a moron |
| 00:56.58 | azomoas | parabola2, well the problem is, I can connect login, but it errors .... |
| 00:56.59 | parabola2 | and its horribly written, then that matters |
| 00:57.02 | azomoas | so that is the reason |
| 00:57.08 | parabola2 | then you have your answer azomoas |
| 00:57.30 | parabola2 | unless you provide an error message no one can help you |
| 00:58.11 | parabola2 | so what should i do? |
| 00:58.22 | parabola2 | debian blew away the windows boot loader, but was too stupid to put a working one in place |
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| 01:00.29 | parabola2 | maybe if i boot up an ubuntu liveCD |
| 01:00.33 | parabola2 | i can manually configure the grub? |
| 01:00.38 | parabola2 | or, is it just fked up Arrowmaster ? |
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| 01:01.01 | Arrowmaster | i think you can use whatever you installed debian from to boot a rescue mode |
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| 01:01.21 | parabola2 | tried that |
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| 01:01.22 | parabola2 | didnt work |
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| 01:02.13 | parabola2 | my god, i cant believe that the devs included support for mdraid, made the installer aware of it, include prompts for it, but then daft enough to use a grub version that wont work |
| 01:02.20 | parabola2 | i have a hard time believing thats the case |
| 01:03.15 | parabola2 | Arrowmaster: any pointers on where i could look / read ? |
| 01:03.23 | parabola2 | the wiki entry for sataraid doesnt specifically talk about this |
| 01:03.24 | Arrowmaster | are you sure it installed grub2? |
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| 01:03.51 | parabola2 | how the hell would i know |
| 01:04.05 | parabola2 | it doesnt load so i cant see a version |
| 01:04.05 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 01:04.10 | parabola2 | and it didnt tell me during install |
| 01:04.14 | parabola2 | it just says grub |
| 01:04.19 | parabola2 | i'd assume its 1.97 |
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| 01:05.12 | parabola2 | great i think it wiped out my whole drive |
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| 01:07.00 | parabola2 | owell thats what acronis is for I suppose |
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| 01:11.59 | karlpinc | parabola2: There's a reason why it's called "testing". |
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| 01:13.20 | Arrowmaster | and a reason you have to do some extra stuff to get dmraid support enabled in the installer |
| 01:13.55 | bronaugh | parabola2: which raid level are you trying to boot from? |
| 01:14.07 | bronaugh | because if you're trying to boot from raid5 I'm going to call you an idiot. |
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| 01:17.49 | Arrowmaster | isnt raid1 the only thing you can actually boot from? |
| 01:18.01 | Arrowmaster | maybe hes got a raid0 |
| 01:18.20 | bronaugh | I seem to recall there's some dodgy grub plugin to boot from mdraid raid5 |
| 01:18.27 | bronaugh | but anything like that is extremely dodgy. |
| 01:18.42 | pipeline | truth is, SSDs are so cheap these days, there's no reason to have to boot from RAID |
| 01:19.02 | bronaugh | pretty much. |
| 01:19.17 | bronaugh | though some would argue there's a reason to raid1 your SSDs |
| 01:19.25 | pipeline | there's really not |
| 01:19.29 | pipeline | it doesn't gain you very much |
| 01:19.30 | bronaugh | we did have one come in the door screwed-up on arrival here. |
| 01:19.41 | pipeline | heh, defect rates are what they are |
| 01:19.45 | pipeline | but MBTF on an SSD is much lower than a HDD |
| 01:19.50 | bronaugh | it was a media failure by the smell of it. |
| 01:20.01 | bronaugh | SMART data being returned was bogus. |
| 01:20.08 | bronaugh | which smells like... metadata area is corrupt. |
| 01:20.24 | bronaugh | also MTBF is mean time between failures. |
| 01:20.30 | bronaugh | you must mean "higher" not "lower" there. |
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| 01:24.08 | laurus | Does anyone here have experience dealing with installers for Emacs-related Debian packages? |
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| 01:25.29 | abrotman | laurus: that's not a real question |
| 01:25.32 | nsadmin | the emacs maint? |
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| 01:25.45 | laurus | abrotman, I think I can probably debug this if I can get some assistance |
| 01:25.58 | abrotman | debugging what exactly? |
| 01:26.13 | laurus | abrotman, the package is called "lookup-el" |
| 01:26.18 | laurus | And when I install it, it chokes on this one line |
| 01:26.32 | laurus | But I can't imagine it should be that hard to fix, it worked in Debian Squeeze |
| 01:26.35 | laurus | Er, Lenny |
| 01:26.49 | laurus | The catch is this: I'm using Emacs from this repository: http://emacs.orebokech.com/ |
| 01:26.53 | laurus | But I was before too. |
| 01:27.08 | laurus | So I don't know if it's proper to submit a bug to Debian because I'm not using the Emacs from Debian. |
| 01:27.21 | nsadmin | that might make it not a debian problem, and not of knowledge to the debian maint |
| 01:27.29 | nsadmin | might not... |
| 01:27.50 | laurus | nsadmin, well I'd like to try to figure out whether it is or not |
| 01:28.02 | laurus | But I don't have enough technical knowledge to understand the error message. Care to have a look at it? |
| 01:28.26 | nsadmin | sure, I'll look |
| 01:28.31 | laurus | nsadmin, thanks! |
| 01:29.08 | nsadmin | no guarantees on any new info... rumor has it I'm going senile! |
| 01:29.41 | laurus | nsadmin, hey don't worry, I appreciate this so much! |
| 01:29.45 | laurus | The output is at http://paste.lisp.org/display/117545 |
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| 01:29.52 | laurus | Would you like me to paste the lookup-el file that it is running as well? |
| 01:30.15 | nsadmin | one sec |
| 01:30.36 | nsadmin | so it's the postinst that's failing |
| 01:30.59 | kurt_h | isn't there a way to mount a file through loopback that doesn't require me using sudo? seems like i should be able to mount a file i own on a directory i own |
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| 01:31.28 | Administrator_ | hey guys |
| 01:31.33 | nsadmin | mounting is reserved for administrative user |
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| 01:32.11 | laurus | nsadmin, I just annotated it with the contents of lookup-el |
| 01:32.23 | laurus | If that helps. |
| 01:32.52 | nsadmin | it seems like install/el is part of the installer scripts? |
| 01:33.04 | nsadmin | err install/lookup-el |
| 01:33.50 | nsadmin | before I go much deeper, I'd like to have you install a debian emacs and see if the problem still exists |
| 01:34.01 | nsadmin | is lookup-el a debian package? |
| 01:34.04 | laurus | nsadmin, yes it is. |
| 01:34.10 | laurus | So just sudo aptitude install emacs? |
| 01:34.48 | nsadmin | I think the packagename might be versioned |
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| 01:35.36 | nsadmin | in order to test this it -might- be necessary to remove the non-debian emacs at least temporarily |
| 01:35.42 | laurus | nsadmin, okay |
| 01:35.51 | nsadmin | we'll have to see if that's the case or not |
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| 01:36.23 | laurus | Ah, it still failed. |
| 01:36.30 | laurus | I'll purge emacs-snapshot then |
| 01:36.46 | nsadmin | you could probably install it later |
| 01:37.10 | laurus | nsadmin, it worked once emacs-snapshot was purged. |
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| 01:37.36 | nsadmin | ok, so that narrows the problem down to something in this emacs-snapshot |
| 01:38.00 | laurus | Er, actually, the package still doesn't work properly |
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| 01:38.12 | nsadmin | in what way? |
| 01:38.17 | lenswipe2 | hey guys |
| 01:38.30 | lenswipe2 | i was on here yesterday asking about how to restore Grub to the MBR |
| 01:38.38 | lenswipe2 | someone suggested i boot in recovery mode |
| 01:38.42 | lenswipe2 | how do i do that? |
| 01:39.05 | nsadmin | probably you would need the cd you installed debian from |
| 01:39.07 | jelly-home | oh dear, there are two lenswipes? |
| 01:39.18 | laurus | nsadmin: eq: Opening process input file: no such file or directory, /etc/inetd.conf |
| 01:39.18 | nsadmin | one for each lens! |
| 01:39.42 | bronaugh | jelly-home: hey; so switched machine to deadline scheduler. so far... no problems. but also not much load. |
| 01:39.46 | nsadmin | umm that's different... inetd.conf has nothing to do with emacs |
| 01:39.59 | bronaugh | jelly-home: figure I might as well keep you posted. |
| 01:40.03 | laurus | nsadmin, okay. |
| 01:40.07 | laurus | What is that file? |
| 01:40.22 | jelly-home | bronaugh: thanks for the update |
| 01:40.27 | nsadmin | configuration for inetd |
| 01:40.29 | bronaugh | np. |
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| 01:40.33 | laurus | nsadmin, bizarre... |
| 01:40.41 | lenswipe2 | nsadmin, so i boot with that(its a netinstall) and then i go into recovery mode and type install-grub ? |
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| 01:41.41 | nsadmin | lenswipe2, you might be able to boot your system from the cd; you may have to tell the boot: line where is your / partition |
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| 01:42.04 | lenswipe2 | nsadmin, i dont know where my / partition is, how do i find out? |
| 01:42.32 | nsadmin | is it /dev/hda1? |
| 01:42.40 | lenswipe2 | oh right |
| 01:42.49 | laurus | nsadmin, so now what should I do? |
| 01:42.50 | lenswipe2 | i thought you meant in terms of blocks/cylinders etc |
| 01:42.51 | aguitel | Is there a text file I can edit to configure my power options ? |
| 01:42.59 | lenswipe2 | nsadmin, yeah its probly /dev/hda1 |
| 01:43.15 | lenswipe2 | nsadmin, there is only one drive and its a 1TB SATA drive if that makes any difference |
| 01:43.27 | nsadmin | laurus: that's a wayyy different problem... |
| 01:43.47 | laurus | nsadmin, okay. I will ask the #emacs people :) |
| 01:43.47 | nsadmin | I dunno what caused it, at all |
| 01:43.51 | laurus | Me either :P |
| 01:44.00 | laurus | Emacs is... interesting sometimes. |
| 01:44.42 | nsadmin | I see no reason at all that any emacs installings or runnings would ever touch that file unless you explicitly edited it |
| 01:45.03 | nsadmin | if it does, that's a very serious problem |
| 01:45.15 | laurus | Well, I've never heard of that file in my life |
| 01:45.25 | nsadmin | what were you doing when it said that? |
| 01:45.32 | laurus | Just running a command in the package :P |
| 01:46.00 | nsadmin | which command, and what is the exact text of the command line? |
| 01:46.14 | laurus | Hang on a sec, I just completely screwed something up |
| 01:46.30 | laurus | I manually erased the /usr/share/emacs and /usr/share/emacs-snapshot directories |
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| 01:46.40 | laurus | And then tried to reinstall, and now emacs-snapshot won't even install |
| 01:47.27 | laurus | I hate how "aptitude purge" doesn't actually purge things. |
| 01:47.34 | laurus | Is there a way to actually purge a package? |
| 01:48.00 | nsadmin | ok... so, it -is- ==your== machine, and you can do anything you want with it... having said that, when you manually do things in the area of packaging, it makes it very difficult to help |
| 01:48.21 | nsadmin | having said all that... back in about an hour; dinner time |
| 01:48.25 | laurus | nsadmin, sorry. I just wanted to actually purge it... okay, thanks! :) |
| 01:48.36 | nsadmin | let it handle that |
| 01:49.02 | nsadmin | "too many cooks"... |
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| 01:52.31 | lenswipe2 | nsadmin, i dont have a "recovery mode" but i do have "rescue mode" is that what i need? |
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| 01:58.29 | lenswipe | nsadmin, ? |
| 01:58.45 | laurus | lenswipe, he said he left for an hour |
| 01:58.50 | lenswipe | oh really? |
| 01:58.50 | lenswipe | damn |
| 01:58.53 | lenswipe | laurus, do you know? |
| 01:59.01 | laurus | About what? |
| 02:00.09 | lenswipe | i have debian and windows xp installed |
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| 02:00.19 | lenswipe | i installed windows last and it overwrote the mbr |
| 02:00.23 | lenswipe | i need to get grub back |
| 02:00.34 | laurus | lenswipe, oh, I'm sorry I can't help :( |
| 02:00.43 | lenswipe | kk |
| 02:00.52 | davidhhh1 | reinstall grub... |
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| 02:03.34 | zagabar | If I have a folder with files that are being actively written to by another process, if I do a cp-command on it to back it up, may the backup be corrupt, or does linux wait for any written file to be unwritten to? |
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| 02:05.49 | test__ | help! I cant startx as my usually used user! |
| 02:06.18 | davidhhh1 | hoho |
| 02:06.21 | test__ | However root or other normal user can do. |
| 02:06.37 | bronaugh | checked Xorg.0.log? |
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| 02:11.22 | test__ | bronaugh, (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized. |
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| 02:11.52 | bronaugh | uh huh. the messages above that are probably more informative. |
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| 02:13.31 | nsadmin | test__ it's probably something you have in your home dir |
| 02:14.14 | test__ | nsadmin, Yes, I guess so, but I did nothing as that user |
| 02:14.24 | abrotman | what changed? |
| 02:14.37 | nsadmin | except usually used the user... |
| 02:15.57 | bronaugh | test__: just pastebin that file. |
| 02:16.15 | test__ | abrotman, You mean what I installed or modifide as the user which now blocked out? |
| 02:16.17 | bronaugh | hopefully immediately following an unsuccessful run. |
| 02:16.32 | abrotman | yes |
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| 02:18.07 | test__ | bronaugh, http://pastebin.com/iEcTRp56 |
| 02:19.08 | bronaugh | neato |
| 02:19.16 | bronaugh | sig11 in X server. |
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| 02:20.11 | test__ | abrotman, Nothing special, I just updated gdm3 and some python stuffs |
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| 02:20.32 | test__ | bronaugh, Can you figure out what's wrong? |
| 02:20.52 | Arrowmaster | you have gdm3 and start x using startx? |
| 02:21.25 | bronaugh | test__: basically, bug in some part of X server, which includes fglrx driver. |
| 02:21.31 | bronaugh | fact you don't have DRI working with that is fishy. |
| 02:21.37 | bronaugh | if I were trying to solve this, I'd get DRI working. |
| 02:21.40 | bronaugh | rest might fall into place then. |
| 02:21.44 | test__ | Arrowmaster, No that ddidn't work, so I tried startx directly, and that failed as well. |
| 02:21.47 | bronaugh | no idea why it'd only sig11 for your user though. |
| 02:21.57 | bronaugh | that part doesn't make sense. |
| 02:24.48 | test__ | bronaugh, well any files at home can affect this issue? Then I can delete them or replae by a fresh one |
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| 02:26.14 | bronaugh | test__: your X server or parts of it are buggy. |
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| 02:26.30 | abrotman | it worked before |
| 02:26.31 | bronaugh | so yes, something could be triggering it, but I haven't the faintest idea what. |
| 02:26.44 | abrotman | test__: put your sources.list in a pastebin please |
| 02:26.47 | bronaugh | test__: did you upgrade kernel recently? |
| 02:27.31 | parabola2 | is there a wubi-like tool for debian? |
| 02:27.38 | test__ | bronaugh, yes |
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| 02:27.42 | parabola2 | i restored my windows mbr, so i at least had an OS on this PC |
| 02:27.43 | abrotman | test__: put your sources.list in a pastebin please |
| 02:28.01 | bronaugh | test__: ok. so you may need to rebuild the fglrx kernel module... |
| 02:28.03 | parabola2 | i dont want ubuntu, but if i can install debian within my windows partition like wubi does, i'd be set |
| 02:28.03 | bronaugh | so that dri works. |
| 02:28.09 | bronaugh | and then maybe you won't hit the bug that you're hitting now. |
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| 02:29.22 | test__ | bronaugh, http://pastebin.com/zEhgjh61 |
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| 02:29.54 | abrotman | test__: make sure your system is up to date .. `aptitude update ; aptitude full-upgrade ; aptitude install xorg' |
| 02:30.25 | abrotman | test__: and the 'no-free' should be 'non-free' on the last two lines of the file |
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| 02:32.32 | test__ | bronaugh, Well, I got some to update, but not seem much related to xorg or kernel |
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| 02:33.21 | abrotman | do it anyway |
| 02:33.35 | test__ | abrotman, done |
| 02:33.43 | bronaugh | ok. so force rebuild of fglrx kernel module. |
| 02:33.56 | bronaugh | dunno how that's done with that damned package; maybe try dpkg-reconfigure it. |
| 02:34.12 | abrotman | dkms likely |
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| 02:34.55 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.24 | test__ | bronaugh, I installed the offical binary version of fglrx. |
| 02:35.38 | bronaugh | ok. so make that recompile its kernel module. |
| 02:36.07 | abrotman | oh, then reinstall it the same way you did before |
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| 02:38.02 | test__ | done, so now reboot? |
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| 02:40.17 | bronaugh | test__: or just load the module. |
| 02:40.18 | bronaugh | then try again. |
| 02:40.57 | test__ | bronaugh, which module? |
| 02:41.05 | bronaugh | fglrx |
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| 02:42.05 | abrotman | just let him reboot .. it'll probably take less time |
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| 02:42.20 | bronaugh | ha |
| 02:42.23 | test__ | abrotman, aye |
| 02:42.32 | test__ | see you guys |
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| 02:44.01 | lenswipe | nsadmin, are you back yet? |
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| 02:45.46 | test__ | hello, I'm back home in mom's arm!! |
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| 02:46.16 | test__ | things go normal now |
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| 02:47.30 | test__ | bronaugh,abrotman, well, Such a weird issue... |
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| 02:47.48 | abrotman | good |
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| 02:48.19 | bronaugh | glad it's fixed. |
| 02:48.27 | bronaugh | I suspect the fglrx driver is just a pile of crap w/o DRI. |
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| 02:49.34 | test__ | But I've got another one... It's udev. Another source of bugs |
| 02:50.29 | test__ | When I start udev at runlevel 2345, it failed with an error like " seems udev already start,bla bla" |
| 02:50.46 | bronaugh | probably a leftover pid file in /var/run |
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| 02:52.01 | test__ | bronaugh: yeah,But shouldn't something be done to remove **.pid? |
| 02:52.22 | bronaugh | I'd expect that would normally happen. |
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| 02:53.56 | test__ | bronaugh: so any advices |
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| 02:58.28 | test__ | Doesn't runlevel S mean single? |
| 02:59.43 | test__ | so runlevel S == runlevel 1? |
| 02:59.44 | dvs | divorced |
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| 03:01.48 | khem_ | http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1765 <- seems like ext4 outhustle all filesystems in performance, including XFS and JFS? what do you guys have to say about that? is there any other more important aspects not covered? |
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| 03:02.18 | hellnest | anyone already try to install / compile KDE 4.6 Beta in debian? |
| 03:02.22 | abrotman | khem_: try it and see |
| 03:02.56 | test__ | Anyone tell sth. about runlevel S |
| 03:03.01 | bronaugh | test__: it's the crap that starts up no matter what. |
| 03:04.20 | test__ | bronaugh: ? but the debain wiki told me it represet single? |
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| 03:04.56 | test__ | Runlevels 0, 6 and S are reserved for shutdown, reboot and single user mode respectively. |
| 03:05.09 | test__ | http://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel |
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| 03:06.40 | bronaugh | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.53 | bronaugh | S starts regardless. |
| 03:06.55 | bronaugh | 1 does not. |
| 03:07.52 | test__ | bronaugh: It means start any runlevel will start S ? |
| 03:07.58 | bronaugh | yup. |
| 03:08.02 | bronaugh | it happens before any run level. |
| 03:08.13 | bronaugh | and doesn't change when you switch run levels, other than switching to run level 6 |
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| 03:09.22 | tux33 | i can find my nic in lspci but not with ifconfig why and what should i do now? thx |
| 03:09.28 | hellnest | anyone can give me a good wiki / pages that explain about kernel upgrade in Debian? It's seems if i do a kernel upgrade that didn't get rid my old kernel :( |
| 03:10.10 | tux33 | 01:06.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30) |
| 03:10.26 | test__ | bronaugh: so When will the K** run in rcS.d/, prior to any runlevel stopping again? |
| 03:10.34 | abrotman | hellnest: if it's an ABI change, it won't |
| 03:11.15 | hellnest | abrotman: what ABI mean? |
| 03:11.32 | abrotman | hellnest: which one isn't being removed? which one are you installing ? |
| 03:11.55 | tux33 | how do i add a new nic in debian? |
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| 03:12.22 | abrotman | man interfaces |
| 03:12.23 | tux33 | or in gnome |
| 03:12.26 | hellnest | abrotman: i'm running original kernel from testing repo 2.6.32-5 and thinking about upgrade it to 2.6.36 |
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| 03:12.41 | abrotman | okay, and what? |
| 03:13.09 | hellnest | in Grub the old kernel is still show up |
| 03:13.43 | abrotman | so what? use your package manager to remove it if you don't want it |
| 03:13.56 | hellnest | hmm... ic2 |
| 03:14.20 | hellnest | normally it's get rid automatic if i do an upgrade, i'm new in debian :) |
| 03:14.38 | hellnest | thanks for the information ^^ |
| 03:14.59 | abrotman | it is ? /me doesn't know any distro that removes old kernels without asking |
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| 03:15.56 | hellnest | abrotman: of course asking, but it will automaticly delete after asking, ex for archlinux and fedora |
| 03:16.31 | abrotman | doesn't remember RH doing that .. and wouldn't want a distro to remove kernels until the new one has been tested |
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| 03:22.24 | nsadmin | one way I know of to remove old kernels is when the new one gets built over the old one twice (when you build yourself using the generic means) |
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| 03:25.10 | cantido | Is there any limit to the amount of aliases you can have on a single interface? |
| 03:25.52 | abrotman | how many are you trying? |
| 03:26.02 | cantido | up to 500 so far |
| 03:26.19 | cantido | The machine has 700 ip's in total |
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| 03:26.43 | abrotman | so keep going ? |
| 03:27.28 | cantido | yeah, I thought it was a byte for the aliases i.e. 256.. but well paste that |
| 03:27.30 | cantido | past |
| 03:28.31 | Arrowmaster | thats a lot |
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| 03:29.58 | cantido | Doesn't seem to be causing any issues though |
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| 03:33.47 | tux33 | why debian don't find my network card |
| 03:34.19 | cantido | tux33: is it in lspci? |
| 03:34.37 | tux33 | 01:06.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30) |
| 03:34.53 | cantido | ok, is there anything in dmesg about it? |
| 03:36.07 | abrotman | tux33: what does 'uname -r' say ? |
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| 03:38.06 | tux33 | http://pastebin.com/vwmRz6ik |
| 03:38.15 | tux33 | pls help me with dmesg |
| 03:38.16 | antivigilante | is debian going to add beye used to be known as biew and bview |
| 03:38.21 | ryan-c | Apparently I need some tg3 firmware for debian installer? |
| 03:38.27 | ryan-c | WHere can i find that? |
| 03:38.39 | antivigilante | what's tg3? |
| 03:39.26 | tux33 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.26 | tux33 | 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 03:39.59 | cantido | tux33: line 347 348 |
| 03:40.03 | abrotman | !tg3 |
| 03:40.04 | dpkg | [tg3] the driver for Broadcom Tigon3 (aka NetXtreme I) Ethernet chipsets, included in mainline Linux kernels. Firmware from userspace (Debian 2.6.29 and later kernels) is only required for support of the BCM5701 A0 chipset or for TCP Segment Offloading (<TSO>) functionality. Tigon3 firmware (tg3.bin, tg3_tso5.bin, tg3_tso.bin) is packaged in firmware-linux-nonfree, ask me about <non-free sources>. See also <firmware images>. |
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| 03:40.23 | Donkej | I want to an "apt-get update" and then "apt-get upgrade" but I want to make sure that my PHP won't be upgraded to 5.3, but continues at 5.29999 (or whatever it is). Is this possible? |
| 03:41.28 | tux33 | cantido can i fix it? |
| 03:41.29 | Arrowmaster | Donkej: aptitude hold php-package-name |
| 03:41.56 | Donkej | I would do that after "apt-get update" ? |
| 03:42.22 | Arrowmaster | you can do it before or after, not sure if that works with apt-get upgrade though, might have to use aptitude upgrade |
| 03:42.28 | cantido | tux33: well, your paste is in the top 5 google reasults for the error heh |
| 03:42.58 | ryan-c | !firmware images |
| 03:42.58 | dpkg | Unofficial daily built <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing the testing release are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/squeeze_d-i/current/ . See also <install testing>. |
| 03:43.04 | tux33 | cantido shit and i check never exp.. |
| 03:43.12 | tux33 | :-( |
| 03:43.24 | tux33 | ;-) |
| 03:43.27 | cantido | tux33: do you have a different card? sounds like the EEPROM with the mac address on that card is broked |
| 03:43.41 | cantido | tux33: there might be a tool for rewriting the EEPROM though |
| 03:43.58 | tux33 | i have RTL 8100C and RTL8139D but they don't work :-( |
| 03:44.19 | cantido | the RTL8139D should work fine.. |
| 03:44.29 | tux33 | ok i test it again |
| 03:44.31 | tux33 | thx |
| 03:44.49 | cantido | Realtek stuff should just work I think.. it's not great but there are usually drivers for it |
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| 03:45.32 | tux33 | i am not happy with my rtl nic's |
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| 03:46.13 | cantido | mmm you can ebay decent Intel GigE nics for $20 IIRC |
| 03:46.30 | tux33 | thx |
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| 03:59.20 | ScottG | I want to be able to use pm-suspend in a script. However, it requires root. How would I do this, then? |
| 04:00.06 | nsadmin | if it requires root, run it as root |
| 04:00.27 | ryan-c | ScottG: sudo |
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| 04:01.16 | ryan-c | grant the user your script runs as the ability to sudo pm-suspend |
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| 04:02.08 | nsadmin | or go back to the original idea and redesign what you're trying to do such that it doesn't require root |
| 04:02.38 | cantido | can you not call power management stuff via DBUS? |
| 04:03.40 | ScottG | ryan-c: Sudo wouldn't work because it would prompt for a password. I could put NOPWD or whatever in sudoers but is there a more "right" way to do it? |
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| 04:04.13 | ryan-c | ScottG: You can set sudo to not prompt for a password for particular commands |
| 04:04.25 | ScottG | cantido: I'm not sure how I would do that |
| 04:04.26 | cantido | ScottG: other tools are enable to suspend a machine as a user (I guess thats what pm-suspend does).. |
| 04:04.35 | ScottG | ryan-c: Yea I know, but that seems like a hackish and less secure way to do it |
| 04:04.39 | cantido | s/enable/able/ |
| 04:04.54 | ryan-c | ScottG: It's not hackish or insecure |
| 04:05.05 | ryan-c | you can make all other commands still require a password |
| 04:05.38 | ScottG | ryan-c: Yea I know how it works |
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| 04:05.45 | puff | How do I see what packages depend on a package? |
| 04:05.50 | antivigilante | all my menus have turned red |
| 04:06.05 | antivigilante | red with purple or something |
| 04:06.14 | mee | puff: you can do 'aptitude why <pkgname>' |
| 04:06.20 | puff | ScottG: I think I recall seeing some gnome doodad for that sort of thing. |
| 04:06.23 | mee | but there is probably a better way |
| 04:06.32 | puff | Cool. |
| 04:06.55 | ScottG | puff: Yea, looking for a DE independent way. |
| 04:07.02 | puff | Ah. |
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| 04:07.35 | antivigilante | now they're black again weird |
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| 04:09.04 | antivigilante | is there a way to make init single (rescue boot) ask for the password of a sudoer |
| 04:09.28 | antivigilante | I hate how I can get root by just loading init single |
| 04:09.55 | antivigilante | seems like like a camel size hole |
| 04:10.06 | ryan-c | antivigilante: You can just do init=/bin/bash if single asks for a password |
| 04:10.16 | ryan-c | password lock your bootloader options |
| 04:10.21 | ScottG | Yea |
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| 04:10.44 | antivigilante | i would password lock my laptop lid if IU could |
| 04:10.57 | ryan-c | if you can pass the bootloader arbitrary options then you can get root |
| 04:11.10 | ScottG | Usually if the computer has been physically compromised then your screwed anyways |
| 04:11.13 | ryan-c | if you have unsupervised physical access you can get root |
| 04:11.31 | puff | My laptop has a built-in fingerprint sensor, I've always wanted to play with it. |
| 04:11.41 | antivigilante | apt-get install venus-flytrap |
| 04:13.56 | ScottG | puff: Mine does too. Unfortunately it's one of the few things that doesn't have Linux support |
| 04:14.32 | cantido | Fingerprint sensor does nothing if you can take the disk out and stick it in another machine |
| 04:14.55 | ScottG | Yea, it's mostly a convenience thing |
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| 04:15.21 | cantido | I've seen "secured" machines that are sold to governements.. they need smart cards to boot.. you take off the keyboard, mess with the dip switches.. boots without card ;) |
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| 04:15.40 | ScottG | dip switches? |
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| 04:16.14 | cantido | A block of switches, similar to jumpers |
| 04:16.16 | ryan-c | heh |
| 04:16.18 | qwd | If I'm uncluding a link to a ticket from upstream which contains a patch, does that count as "you are including a patch to fix this problem" when reporting the bug for debian? |
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| 04:16.29 | ryan-c | i work for a gov contractor |
| 04:16.35 | puff | cantido: The fingerprint sensor is usually integrated into the hard drive. |
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| 04:16.50 | ryan-c | puff: no they aren't |
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| 04:16.59 | cantido | puff: unless the drive controller is encrypting the data it's still useless |
| 04:17.14 | ryan-c | we just sell our software on dell servers and they go on TS networks just fine |
| 04:17.22 | cantido | those usb drives with finger print thing have been proven to be useless |
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| 04:17.30 | puff | ryan-c: Really? Odd. I'm sure I read that in the specs fo rthis thing. |
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| 04:17.59 | ryan-c | fingerprint sensors aren't normall part of the hard drive |
| 04:18.05 | cantido | puff: debian/linux has good encrypted block device support.. which is all you need |
| 04:18.17 | cantido | but expect your read/write speeds to suffer badly |
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| 04:18.26 | puff | Yeah... honestly, I'm not that worried abou tit. |
| 04:18.26 | antivigilante | secrecy is dead, privacy is still a live, and security is a douchebag giveaway |
| 04:18.49 | puff | I've done a fair bit of work for banks, etc, in the past, I think I have a better sense of security than mst people. |
| 04:19.02 | cantido | Being a "security researcher" sounds like a good overpaid job to me ;) |
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| 04:19.19 | puff | In other words, there's nothing on my hard drive that I wouldn't be happy to publish. |
| 04:19.35 | puff | cantido: Not a security researcher, just a developer for online banking, etc. |
| 04:19.53 | cantido | puff: I worked at a place that was PCI compliant .. thousands of credit card details printed out and stuck in a cupboard that everyone had access to |
| 04:19.58 | puff | Nothing major, but it got me interested in the topic and I di a fair bit of homework. |
| 04:20.18 | puff | Yeah.. heh... I remember fun stories the old guys told, about people using their SSNs for testing trnsaction tuff. |
| 04:20.50 | puff | Ten years later, the IRS comes calling, "About these several hundred thousand dollars in transactoins that you neglected to file in you tax returns..." |
| 04:21.53 | cantido | there's lots and lots of snakeoil sellers in "the security industry" |
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| 04:22.16 | puff | Absolutely. |
| 04:22.40 | puff | one of the guys who hangs out at this coffeehouse is a low-level startup player. |
| 04:23.19 | puff | He asked me to review this thing where a company claimed they had facial recognition stuff to spot terrorists at random in airport security video feds. |
| 04:23.21 | puff | Feeds. |
| 04:23.29 | puff | I told him to pass, saved him a ton of money. |
| 04:23.59 | cantido | Does it use machine vision to detect arab-looking people or people with big hats? |
| 04:24.32 | puff | Basically I said, "If you _really_ want to know, you should talk to X and Y, and I'll call them for you, but this is the sort of thing that people have beeen claiming to have finally solved for about twenty years now, so I think I'd have heard about it if they really managed to do it." |
| 04:24.54 | cantido | Computer security is a bit different from homeland security |
| 04:25.04 | puff | Speaking of hats... X on that list worked on a blue-sky research project for a "battlefield awareness" system. |
| 04:25.17 | cantido | homeland security is basically "excuses to take away your rights" |
| 04:25.45 | puff | Open/nonclassified research meant to build a foundation for this idea where you'd scatter golfball-sized autonomous cameras across an area, and they'd collaborate to figure out what's going on. |
| 04:26.07 | puff | He told a leftist friend of ours from overseas about it. |
| 04:26.14 | puff | Who responded, "I see a big future in hats." |
| 04:26.39 | puff | Considering most facial recognition systems can be fooled by the equivalent of a printed out face on a popsicle stick... |
| 04:26.59 | puff | But yeah, computer security is much like real intelligence security. |
| 04:27.12 | puff | E.g. it's about partitioning and about data hygiene. |
| 04:27.30 | puff | If you don't want it known, don't put it where it can be gotten at. |
| 04:29.36 | rafuch0 | did anyone happen this wiht virtualbox --->http://img696.imageshack.us/f/pantallazovy.png/ |
| 04:30.18 | antivigilante | homeland security - we don't take your rights we just share them with others |
| 04:31.07 | antivigilante | konqueror is so clunky compared to firefox :/ |
| 04:31.16 | antivigilante | but kde blows gnome away |
| 04:31.38 | puff | homeland security theater. |
| 04:31.46 | cantido | rafuch0: you have some random font selected? |
| 04:31.54 | cantido | one that contains those icons |
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| 04:32.30 | cantido | antivigilante: chromium is awesome IMHO |
| 04:32.52 | cantido | antivigilante: firefox is slow as hell.. konq is fast but its rendering engine has gotten a bit behind |
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| 04:33.16 | rafuch0 | OMG thanks... cantid |
| 04:33.23 | rafuch0 | now it works.... |
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| 04:38.06 | antivigilante | chrome is nice but i can't use most of my extensions and would rather code in web tech than make C/C++ |
| 04:38.15 | antivigilante | that's like 1980s approach |
| 04:38.24 | antivigilante | does not build community :/ |
| 04:38.42 | antivigilante | anyhoo got go |
| 04:39.13 | cantido | write websites in markup.. write software in C.. |
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| 06:18.44 | cantido | debianoob: depends on your processor |
| 06:19.10 | debianoob | right, like will a piii cut it? |
| 06:19.28 | debianoob | would a fast pii? |
| 06:20.04 | cantido | Are you expecting to get 100Mb/s through it? |
| 06:20.25 | cantido | Basically all the encryption is cpu-bound unless you have hardware support of some form |
| 06:20.29 | debianoob | mainly for old thhinkpad... it almost will do that maybe 92-95 |
| 06:20.40 | cantido | so you loose quick transfers between memory and disk via DMA |
| 06:21.03 | debianoob | hmm.. |
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| 06:23.41 | debianoob | cantido: thanks i think i may hold off on that idea for this project.. |
| 06:23.58 | cantido | debianoob: if you need encryption.. only encrypt stuff that is sensitive |
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| 06:24.34 | debianoob | im at the spot where it asking.. :D |
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| 06:25.12 | cantido | well, if you want to use the laptop as a desktop machine encryption everything will make it unusable IMHO |
| 06:26.05 | cantido | encrypted USB flash drives are well supported though.. e.g. KDE4's media mounter will handle setting up the crypto stuff and unlocking it, and mounting the filesystem inside |
| 06:26.27 | debianoob | ok good deal i wont even try i'm glad i asked then hehe |
| 06:28.09 | cantido | you can also have crypted filesystems inside a file |
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| 06:36.06 | debianoob | i thought it hung before while detecting hardware took a half hour or so and then asked for firmware |
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| 07:00.07 | iluminator101 | when i try to import a pdf into openoffice it says general error general input/output error |
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| 07:08.03 | iluminator101 | hey guys how do i unlock a pdf in debian |
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| 07:11.41 | dondelelcaro | iluminator101: you can do so using pdftk |
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| 07:14.37 | iluminator101 | dondelelcaro, how do enter a blank passpord |
| 07:14.43 | iluminator101 | dondelelcaro, how do enter a blank password |
| 07:14.54 | dondelelcaro | iluminator101: just press return |
| 07:15.08 | iluminator101 | no on command line |
| 07:16.27 | iluminator101 | pdf is encrypted but the password is left blank |
| 07:16.27 | dondelelcaro | iluminator101: '' |
| 07:17.03 | iluminator101 | " |
| 07:17.08 | iluminator101 | ' ' |
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| 07:17.41 | jetscreamer | waves@dondelelcaro |
| 07:18.43 | iluminator101 | dondelelcaro, so like this pdftk file.pdf input_pw '' output file2.pdf |
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| 07:19.02 | jetscreamer | " " didn't he say |
| 07:19.12 | jetscreamer | or wwould it be "" |
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| 07:21.03 | iluminator101 | dondelelcaro, single quotes or double ??? |
| 07:22.20 | dondelelcaro | iluminator101: '' or "", doesn't matter. |
| 07:22.40 | dondelelcaro | (and if your font is so crappy that '' and " look the same, time to change it) |
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| 07:23.46 | iluminator101 | dondelelcaro, lol...good point advice taken |
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| 07:23.57 | anddam | hello |
| 07:24.33 | anddam | how do I choose between desktop environment when launching xorg with startx? |
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| 07:24.54 | anddam | I suppose it's some alternatives, is that right? |
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| 07:26.21 | iluminator101 | dondelelcaro, when i type command in its goes to an > |
| 07:27.58 | sauvin | iluminator101, what command? |
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| 07:28.11 | simplechat | heyyas |
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| 07:28.19 | simplechat | is there any way to force mdadm to create a raid array without asking? |
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| 07:28.32 | anddam | iluminator101: are you putting some unmatched quote in the command? |
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| 07:30.30 | iluminator101 | pdftk file.pdf input_pw " output file2.pdf |
| 07:31.24 | anddam | iluminator101: so my point stands |
| 07:31.46 | iluminator101 | how should it be then? |
| 07:31.57 | anddam | iluminator101: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 07:32.31 | iluminator101 | input password is blank i am trying to unlock the file |
| 07:33.04 | anddam | two single quotes are different from one double quote |
| 07:33.08 | anddam | use two single quotes |
| 07:34.29 | iluminator101 | like this pdftk file.pdf input_pw '' output file2.pdf |
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| 07:35.48 | iluminator101 | http://pastebin.com/S3VQ9g34 |
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| 07:36.15 | iluminator101 | anddam, http://pastebin.com/S3VQ9g34 |
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| 07:46.26 | ZeuZ | Hey all, is there any common roadblockear that would make a KVM host network unstable? I've checked the logs (/var/log), dmesg, and none tells me the phisical interface has changed state. |
| 07:46.39 | ZeuZ | However, sometimes the KVM host (and guests) are left network-less |
| 07:47.17 | ZeuZ | I've done as suggested in #kvm and used more recent versions, namely, the ones in backports. However the same problem still remains. |
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| 07:48.02 | ZeuZ | The KVM guests works just swell, performance is good (we've setup a LVM and assigned them a LV for each one, so disk IO is working fantastic) and when network works, it's amazing |
| 07:48.25 | ZeuZ | However, sometimes networking will just go down. Host will become unrecheable from the outside world. |
| 07:48.46 | j4son | you mentioned the physical interface changing link state, are you able to verify the integrity of that link from both sides? i.e.; is it flapping for any reason? |
| 07:50.00 | ZeuZ | j4son, the phisical interface doesn't change state. |
| 07:50.10 | ZeuZ | More over, as it's bridged, br0 doesn't switch state. |
| 07:50.21 | ZeuZ | At least there's no log of that. |
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| 07:50.39 | anddam | iluminator101: I don't know pdftk nor the right password, maybe you have to left the input_pw argument out |
| 07:51.00 | ZeuZ | Also, ifconfig shows no error on sending or receiving for any of the interfaces (be it br0, tapX, tunX) |
| 07:51.33 | ZeuZ | However the network get's disconnected sometimes, and I'm aiming firstly at virtio, or some configuration mistake I could have commited or ommited |
| 07:51.55 | ZeuZ | (Also, I should have mentioned that the KVM guests are running Windows with Virtio) |
| 07:51.59 | iluminator101 | anddam, it asks for password...i tried that..no luck |
| 07:52.56 | ZeuZ | (That, or the ISP) |
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| 08:03.09 | iluminator101 | thanks dondelelcaro anddam |
| 08:03.19 | dondelelcaro | np |
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| 08:09.03 | anddam | I'd like to have a small set of packages updated to the latest commit while keeping the rest of system in stable, can this be handled in debian or should I switch to a distribution that builds from source? |
| 08:10.57 | Arrowmaster | it can be done but you shouldnt mix binary packages from stable and unstable |
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| 08:14.51 | OpenTokix | anddam: you can do it with apt-pinning, but as Arrowmaster said, not recommended |
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| 08:23.12 | dondelelcaro | anddam: if you want to do that, use backports for those packages. |
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| 08:31.31 | RenatoSilva | is there any cleaning procedure for detecting unused packages which were "manually" installed? I'm NOT talking about apt-get autoremove, it removes packages installed automatically, not manually. If I check a package for removing and synaptic doesn't report anything else will be removed (no other package depends on it), and I don't care about that package, can I remove it? |
| 08:31.53 | RenatoSilva | is there any cleaning procedure for detecting unused packages which were "manually" installed? I'm NOT talking about apt-get autoremove, it removes packages installed automatically, not manually. If I check a package for removing and synaptic doesn't report anything else will be removed (no other package depends on it), and I don't care about that package, can I remove it? |
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| 08:32.26 | bonjoyee | after entering password it takes 10-12 secs for desktop to load..amd64 x2 2.1ghz, 2gb ddr2, 250gb hdd...takes just 20 secs to get the login screen...any suggestions |
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| 08:33.16 | bonjoyee | started with a netinstall cd...and built it up without the recommended packages installed.. |
| 08:33.30 | bonjoyee | its squeeze 64 bit.. |
| 08:33.44 | bonjoyee | fully up to date |
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| 08:36.26 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva:if you installed say a .deb which is not in the repo..it shows as "local/obsolete" in synaptic |
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| 08:37.01 | PeteMall | anyone running munin on suphp? |
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| 08:40.25 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: I didn't installed ANY package which is NOT in the repos |
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| 08:40.30 | RenatoSilva | *install |
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| 08:41.14 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: so what packages you want to remove? |
| 08:41.38 | bonjoyee | are you speaking of orphan packages? |
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| 08:42.22 | cristi8 | hmm, Pidgin is at version 2.7.7, and in backports is at 2.7.3.. it used to be at the same version a few days after the release.. anyone knows what happens? |
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| 08:42.41 | OpenMike | HI EVERYONE! JOIN #MATH NOW!! JOIN #MATH NOW!! EVERYTHING YOU WANT THE BADDEST ASS CHANNEL ON FREENODE! JOIN #MATH NOW!! JOIN #MATH NOW!! EVERYTHING YOU WANT THE BADDEST ASS CHANNEL ON FREENODE! JOIN #MATH NOW!! JOIN #MATH NOW!! EVERYTHING YOU WANT THE BADDEST ASS CHANNEL ON FREENODE! JOIN #MATH NOW!! JOIN #MATH NOW!! EVERYTHING YOU WANT THE BADDEST ASS CHANNEL ON FREENODE! |
| 08:43.55 | cristi8 | \callvote kick OpenMike |
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| 08:44.58 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: for example, as I said, there's some where I check to uninstall and it doesn't complain about it being dependency of anything. I think if I don't care or DON'T KNOW what that package is, why NOT REMOVE IT? No problem? Then I want to list every package which is not dependency of anything. HOW? |
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| 08:46.53 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: install deborphan..its in the repos |
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| 08:47.34 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: I just installed gtkorphan, but not sure if it will crash my system |
| 08:47.51 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: are all packages listed like what I'm saying? |
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| 08:49.03 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: xutils-dev is not dependency of anything but it's not listed there |
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| 08:50.34 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: check the man page..cant really comment on individual packages... |
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| 08:54.09 | RenatoSilva | it could be flying-pineaple package |
| 08:54.24 | RenatoSilva | the matter is that deborphan is NOT listing it |
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| 08:56.42 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: hmmm I had to check "show all, not only lib section" |
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| 08:58.21 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: try this..open synaptic ->settings > Filters > select new > give proper name like "Orphans" > on right side select "deselect all" > then check "Orphaned"..see what the results are |
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| 08:59.08 | bonjoyee | reload the package sources after adding the filter.. |
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| 09:14.32 | cristi8 | is Backports no longer maintained because of upcoming squeeze release? |
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| 09:19.36 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: ok there was some stuff there and I removed, problem is that gtkorphan still shows packages when clicking not only libs, but the filter doesn't (it's configured to show all sections) |
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| 09:20.06 | Arrowmaster | cristi8: backports moved |
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| 09:32.33 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: the filter somehow shows only the libs (like the output of 'deborphan' command) ...even when all sections are marked for inclusion...dont know why!! |
| 09:32.56 | bonjoyee | maybe it lists orphan libs in every section!! |
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| 09:33.41 | RenatoSilva | so there's the lib section and the lib package type??? |
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| 09:35.14 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: dont see anything like "libs" or "all packages" while selecting sections in the filter,,, |
| 09:36.47 | RenatoSilva | I don't get you |
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| 09:38.41 | bonjoyee | i mean in synaptic manager..while creating a new filter.. i don't see anything like "libs" or "all packages" while selecting sections for that filter... |
| 09:39.40 | bonjoyee | so i believe it only shows what output "deborphan" command gives and not what "deborphan -a" gives |
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| 09:41.18 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: http://i.imgur.com/bugzv.png |
| 09:44.10 | bonjoyee | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.37 | bonjoyee | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.41 | RenatoSilva | hmm needs to be careful with gtkorphan, it is suggesting to uninstall hpricot, but I need it |
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| 09:45.15 | RenatoSilva | now the big list (all not just lib) is really big :( |
| 09:48.03 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: there could be several packages that are all by themselves...so removing them will not affect others...but certainly will result in loss of fucntionality |
| 09:48.33 | RenatoSilva | yeah I need to read one by one and check if I need them |
| 09:49.39 | RenatoSilva | I've got that look with a customized metacity theme and a slightly customized emerald theme |
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| 09:50.15 | RenatoSilva | metacity theme is for window content, emerald theme is for window border (for the emerald window decorator) |
| 09:50.26 | RenatoSilva | I can send them to you if you wish |
| 09:50.40 | bonjoyee | technically the output seems right...as it will not break other packages...and also are not needed by others..so they are "orphans" |
| 09:51.02 | RenatoSilva | I forgot the icons, NuvoeXT or something |
| 09:51.31 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: please post the links..ill check them out later..thanks |
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| 09:52.21 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: there could be a check like "this is an important package to me" so it could differentiate the packages which are really used from the ones which are not, or maybe it could have a way of checking when the package was last used... |
| 09:52.33 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: I don't have links :P |
| 09:52.49 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: ok will upload a moment |
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| 09:56.23 | cyryczy | hi |
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| 09:56.41 | cyryczy | how do i reset /etc/alternatives? i broke something i think |
| 09:56.49 | cyryczy | also, how do i use it? |
| 09:56.58 | cyryczy | meh |
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| 09:58.52 | cahoot | try man update-alternatives |
| 09:59.21 | cyryczy | thx for help |
| 09:59.32 | mu3en | i have a strange one. since a couple of days i get a blank screen after grub and the initial low resolution text. i don't use a graphical login manager. if i login blind, startx is called automatically anyway, and my kde loads fine, when i log out, the command prompt etc. is again visible. |
| 10:00.16 | mu3en | every few boots, the boot proceeds normally and i can see the login prompt and preceding messages. |
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| 10:00.46 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: http://rapidshare.com/#!download|867l3|436247259|PrettyUbuntu_Renato.zip|84, you need still NuvoeXT-2.2 for the icons |
| 10:01.04 | xingu | mu3en: if this is on a notebook with a gf 7600M or 8600M I'd say it's about to leak magic blue smoke. |
| 10:01.06 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: you need to install emerald too |
| 10:01.23 | mu3en | it's an intel integrated on a macbook 3.1 |
| 10:01.27 | bonjoyee | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.50 | mu3en | GM965/GL960 |
| 10:02.30 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: o.O show all not only lib is showing ubuntu-desktop !!! |
| 10:03.00 | mu3en | worked fine for while and still works every so often, and seems to be fine once X has started and quit. could it be something to do with removing KDM/GDM |
| 10:04.10 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage..its just a list of other packages that make installing ubuntu simpler... |
| 10:04.39 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: but it's said in description it's not recommended to be removed |
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| 10:05.14 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: thats true...it can cause problems when upgrading from one version to another |
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| 10:05.31 | amee2k | when SSHing temporarily into a remote system, is there an option way to tell SSH not to append the remote host's key to known_hosts for this specific connection? |
| 10:05.48 | simonrvn | um, ubuntu-desktop is for ubuntu. wth cares about that. |
| 10:05.59 | simonrvn | #ubuntu for ubuntu issues |
| 10:06.08 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: which makes me wonder what else will cause trouble |
| 10:06.24 | amee2k | to avoid clobbering the known_hosts file with entries for systems that i'll probably never visit again at that IP address |
| 10:06.34 | mu3en | or, can anyone point to which files define pre-X tty environment. |
| 10:06.40 | RenatoSilva | simonrvn: a grep bot? |
| 10:07.02 | simonrvn | i don't have one. write your own ;) |
| 10:08.51 | masterkorp | does anyone have a ethrenat cable (striagh and crossover) cheatsheet |
| 10:08.59 | acemi | amee2k: -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null |
| 10:09.42 | acemi | amee2k: see StrictHostKeyChecking option too |
| 10:09.43 | RenatoSilva | simonrvn: I mean are you |
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| 10:10.10 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: hmmm found thunderbird installed, I don't need this, removing.... |
| 10:10.10 | simonrvn | why does that matter to you? |
| 10:10.46 | RenatoSilva | simonrvn: why does why does that matter matter to you? |
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| 10:12.49 | debianer | hi |
| 10:12.54 | amee2k | acemi: interresting. as for the former, i just added {ssh,scp}-nofp aliases with it to my bashrc file |
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| 10:13.02 | bonjoyee | RenatoSilva: seems like ur on a weight loss regime;) |
| 10:13.13 | debianer | I can not find chrome after I install it |
| 10:13.19 | i5noc | sigh |
| 10:13.36 | amee2k | but i don't think turning host key checking off entirely is what i want. i still want to have the key displayed for review |
| 10:14.29 | simonrvn | renatosilva: i fail to see why my directing you and bonjoyee to #ubuntu makes me a "grep bot". don't bother answering, i've put you on /ignore |
| 10:14.43 | debianer | Hi,I can not find Chrome after I installed it.How to get it into my internet? |
| 10:14.52 | masterkorp | does anyone have a ethrenat cable (striagh and crossover) cheatsheet? |
| 10:14.59 | acemi | amee2k: edit your .ssh/config file and add an entry for local hosts |
| 10:15.04 | simonrvn | masterkorp: google it |
| 10:15.11 | pallgone | debianer: how did you install it? |
| 10:15.24 | masterkorp | simonrvn: i googled, i am looking for personal recomendations |
| 10:15.49 | simonrvn | um, it's a straightforward procedure. |
| 10:16.27 | debianer | pallgone: I download it from google,and install it in GDebi |
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| 10:18.18 | pallgone | debianer: did you install it with root rights? |
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| 10:18.54 | pallgone | debianer: i guess it's in your home folder, look for a google chrome folder or something |
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| 10:25.00 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: gtkorphan also shows itself in the list! |
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| 10:25.11 | debianer | pallgone: I want it in the internet menu |
| 10:25.12 | cyryczy | hi |
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| 10:25.31 | cyryczy | every time i run gnome, e16 is started instead of gnome-wm |
| 10:25.34 | debianer | pallgone: when use ubuntu,chrome will set in internet menu |
| 10:25.40 | cyryczy | how do i run gnome without e16? |
| 10:26.28 | cyryczy | i've tried alternatives. /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager is set to usr bin gnomewm |
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| 10:28.37 | pallgone | debianer: look for a .desktop in the chrome folder, copy that into ~/.local/share/applications |
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| 10:30.30 | cyryczy | i hate this alternatives thing, as if things couldn't be just made simple - someone made a some scripts that changes everything |
| 10:31.22 | cyryczy | 2 years ago i just used xsession to start what i want : / |
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| 10:31.38 | debianer | pallgone: thx |
| 10:32.05 | pallgone | debianer: np |
| 10:32.25 | bonjoyee | cyryczy: I had this issue some days ago..while trying e16..ended up re-imaging my hard drive with the previous backup!! |
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| 10:35.38 | pallgone | wow, drastic measure, why not try to figure it out? |
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| 10:39.32 | debianer | pallgone: do you know some stock software in debian? |
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| 10:40.10 | pallgone | debianer: no, but it's easy to find out: apt-cache search stock market |
| 10:41.29 | pallgone | or just: apt-cache search stock |
| 10:41.51 | debianer | pallgone: ok |
| 10:42.15 | pallgone | qtstalker seems to be something |
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| 10:43.17 | Flash__ | also search inventory |
| 10:43.57 | RenatoSilva | should I remove the acl package? |
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| 10:52.18 | RenatoSilva | bonjoyee: I removed some stuff here, not sure if I can ever reboot after that |
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| 10:53.09 | Neosat | Please help! I have a Zotac motherboard NM10 with realtec ethernet. At the begeining in lspci was visible but not anymore. Any idea why this happen? |
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| 10:59.21 | qazzaq | Neosat: what is the output of "lspci -n" ? |
| 10:59.28 | qazzaq | !paste |
| 10:59.29 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 11:01.43 | X-Raimo | hello, how do I use MS AD for auth my users in Debian server? Is pam only required thing for this? |
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| 11:03.36 | pallgone | !ldap |
| 11:03.37 | dpkg | [ldap] Lightweight Directory Access Protocol, a client/server protocol for accessing a directory service. It is a lightweight version of the X.500 protocol. Ask me about <openldap>. http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Ldap #ldap on irc.freenode.net. |
| 11:03.53 | pallgone | (probably this) |
| 11:03.54 | cHarNe2 | hi, when using screen i cant use backspace. works fine outside screen |
| 11:04.11 | pallgone | cHarNe2: it depends on your terminal |
| 11:05.17 | cHarNe2 | pallgone: you sure? cus as soon as i detatch it starts working again |
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| 11:05.50 | X-Raimo | pallgone: as well as I know AD is LDAP itself |
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| 11:06.17 | dutchfish | cHarNe2: what debian, on squeeze i have seen this behavior too? (intresting question) |
| 11:06.21 | pallgone | X-Raimo: ah, ok, not my domain :) |
| 11:06.46 | cHarNe2 | dutchfish: gonna try one thing, brb |
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| 11:07.02 | pallgone | cHarNe2: try another terminal first, what are you using? |
| 11:07.46 | dutchfish | pallgone: i have seen this on konsole, putty and standaard tty over serial |
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| 11:08.41 | cHarNe2 | backspace works just fine now. |
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| 11:09.04 | dutchfish | cHarNe2: how did you fix it? |
| 11:09.14 | cHarNe2 | dutchfish: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1372866&postcount=10 |
| 11:09.25 | dutchfish | cHarNe2: thank you very much ! |
| 11:10.05 | cHarNe2 | dutchfish: im using this line in .bashrc: alias screen='TERM=screen screen -RdU' |
| 11:10.27 | cHarNe2 | works perfect, no need to worry about attached sessions |
| 11:10.43 | dutchfish | cHarNe2: ok, the link didnt work btw |
| 11:10.44 | cHarNe2 | all i have to do ever is type 'screen' |
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| 11:11.05 | cHarNe2 | dutchfish: yes it does, (just verifyed again) |
| 11:11.06 | dutchfish | heh? what about multiple session then? |
| 11:11.25 | cHarNe2 | dutchfish: well i dont use multiple sessions, i have them all in one |
| 11:11.56 | dutchfish | ok |
| 11:12.08 | dutchfish | what debian version where you using? |
| 11:12.16 | cHarNe2 | dutchfish: dunno |
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| 11:12.28 | dutchfish | ehe, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 11:12.33 | cHarNe2 | dutchfish: im sitting on bshellz |
| 11:12.42 | rendar | hi, i have some problems with debian, if i press ctrl+alt+F2 it doesn't go in text-mode, why? |
| 11:12.52 | dutchfish | cHarNe2: never mind then |
| 11:13.17 | cHarNe2 | dutchfish: 4.0 it says |
| 11:13.26 | dutchfish | cHarNe2: thank you |
| 11:13.48 | cHarNe2 | dutchfish: i only use bshellz for irssi |
| 11:14.40 | acemi | rendar: is there a F lock key in your keyboard? |
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| 11:15.33 | rendar | acemi, nope, it's the mac keyboard, in windows this keyboard works perfectly, but in debian gives me some trouble, for example in the keyboard i press '\' and i got '<' and viceversa |
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| 11:17.12 | rendar | acemi, any ideas about that? |
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| 11:17.55 | acemi | rendar: it can be a keyboard problem but i can't figure out |
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| 11:18.26 | Guthur | my install has stop loading the desktop (xfce4), I just get a grey screen |
| 11:18.41 | Guthur | where is best to look to diagnose |
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| 11:19.56 | qazzaq | xorg log perhaps? |
| 11:21.39 | Guthur | says something about the synaptic pointing device not loading |
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| 11:25.50 | qazzaq | dunno about that error, do you have a display manager installed too? |
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| 11:26.38 | Guthur | yeah gdm |
| 11:26.48 | Guthur | if I stop xserver |
| 11:27.02 | Guthur | then load start xfce4 it works fine |
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| 11:27.52 | Guthur | maybe something got corrupt with the gdm session, I notice the settings are all different |
| 11:30.11 | qazzaq | yeah, could be the gdm |
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| 12:04.15 | stew | !flw |
| 12:04.16 | dpkg | <metnet> the only reason for removing telnet is the non-encriptation ? <metnet> I mean, this is a regular desktop <metnet> i don't think I need encriptation <metnet> or do I? |
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| 12:11.03 | Guthur | I install kdm to try and resolve my gdm issue |
| 12:11.22 | Guthur | it loaded fine, but then when it went to as screensaver it wouldn't return |
| 12:11.33 | Guthur | and know when I reboot the desktop wont load |
| 12:11.37 | Guthur | know/now |
| 12:12.16 | Guthur | This seems very similar to what happen my gdm |
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| 12:21.39 | canci__ | Hello there! |
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| 12:23.32 | canci__ | Quick question: I've searched this in the various howtos, but couldn't find it. If I get the kernel sources directly from debian, do I have to provide the config the default debian kernel has or are those config parameters there in the debian kernel anyway and I needn't bother? |
| 12:24.02 | dondelelcaro | canci__: we provide the configuration too for the kernels... |
| 12:24.13 | dondelelcaro | canci__: but you shouldn't need to build your own kernel nowadays |
| 12:25.21 | canci__ | dondelelcaro: Tnx. :) I want to apply the realtime patches and enable preempt. So, all I have to do is apply those patches and leave the rest untouched, since they are already set up as the default kernel? Neat. :) |
| 12:26.13 | canci__ | Also, I did try the liquorix kernel, but it's way too unstable |
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| 12:27.09 | lweight | hello |
| 12:27.47 | lweight | I wonder if someone could give me some help with sound on Lenny on a Thinkpad x61s |
| 12:28.04 | lweight | try as I might I can't get any input to work |
| 12:28.54 | hellnest | dondelelcaro: already try 2.6.37 RC5 |
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| 12:31.47 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 12:31.48 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
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| 12:32.23 | lweight | thanks, abrotman |
| 12:32.25 | canci__ | Bugger! No realtime patch for .32 :( |
| 12:33.25 | canci__ | Guess I'll have to build it from scratch then with a newer kernel. |
| 12:33.57 | canci__ | dondelelcaro: Thank you a lot! :) |
| 12:34.03 | pipeline | canci__: what are you using the RT stuff for ? |
| 12:34.09 | canci__ | DJing |
| 12:34.21 | canci__ | and I really wouldn't like to go Ubuntu for that one :( |
| 12:34.22 | lweight | abrotman: in audio group, tried all alsamixer settings. audio *plays* fine, just can't get anything in via line in or internal mic. |
| 12:35.03 | abrotman | there are volume levels for the mic in alsamixer also |
| 12:35.21 | lweight | if I turn the mic up on playback in alsamixer I get feedback |
| 12:35.30 | canci__ | but I can enable preempt without a patch, so maybe this will be enough |
| 12:35.48 | abrotman | lweight: have you tried the mic in another system to make sure it works ? |
| 12:35.50 | lweight | however, if I do 'arecord | aplay" with mic down in playback but up in capture I get nothing |
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| 12:36.26 | lweight | abrotman: this is internal mic and ext line input, both verified by turning those up in alsamixer playback section. |
| 12:36.33 | lweight | then I hear them |
| 12:36.46 | lweight | however, when I turn them up in capture I get nothing in my app |
| 12:36.50 | canci__ | I already added these to sysctl.conf to make the system a bit snappier: |
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| 12:36.52 | canci__ | vm.swappiness=20 |
| 12:36.52 | canci__ | vm.vfs_cache_pressure=50 |
| 12:37.08 | abrotman | lweight: tried more than one app? i haven't had an issue using a mic in linux in ages |
| 12:37.22 | lweight | tried arecord and audacity |
| 12:38.18 | dondelelcaro | lweight: and you're sure you've got the mic input selected? |
| 12:39.28 | lweight | dondelelcaro: selecting same channel in capture that when selected in playback gives me sound |
| 12:40.03 | canci__ | tnx to all of you! Have a nice day/night! :) |
| 12:40.04 | dutchfish | canci__: you can build a 33-ish see: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/ |
| 12:40.40 | dutchfish | canci__: there will be no .32 rt patch |
| 12:40.41 | dondelelcaro | lweight: and if you elevate the levels so that you get feedback and record you still don't get anything? |
| 12:41.21 | lweight | nope, nothing |
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| 12:41.27 | canci__ | dutchfish: Yeah, tnx. I knew that, but I'd have to review the config. It's OK, but will just take more time. Also, the kernel is not from Debian, which makes me fear it'll be of lower quality. But then again, I'm enabling other non-standard stuff... :) |
| 12:42.09 | canci__ | I'll be off then. Thank you very much! |
| 12:42.12 | dutchfish | canci__: you can still port the debian patches into it .... |
| 12:42.30 | dutchfish | canci__: that worked out pretty well for me |
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| 12:43.03 | canci__ | dutchfish: How do I do that? Is there a how to? |
| 12:43.33 | lweight | dondelelcaro: so that's even with say internal mic turned up on capture and playback and with awful feedback. If I then use arecord I get nothing. |
| 12:43.35 | dutchfish | canci__: debian-kernel-handbook, kernel-doc, debian-new-maintainers-guide |
| 12:44.12 | dutchfish | canci__: and study quilt3 |
| 12:44.22 | canci__ | tnx, I'll take a look. |
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| 12:44.28 | dutchfish | yw |
| 12:44.38 | canci__ | Thanks to all of you! |
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| 12:45.11 | dany | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:45.35 | canci__ | Now I'm really off! :D Good bye! And happy holidays to those who celebrate them! |
| 12:45.43 | dany | and another thing, do u know how can I see the ext4 partitions? |
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| 12:47.31 | zaputr | Can anyone help me adjust .asoundrc for converting all formats to S24_3LE . OS - Debian squeeze. now i can play only all lower than S24_3LE and if player try to play 32bit then it fails |
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| 12:48.27 | dos000 | is there a tool that records/logs http requests and shows it like the firefox history tab ? |
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| 12:51.19 | xok | http://linuxoid.org/ join linuxoid's community |
| 12:51.36 | dutchfish | dos000: hint: any proxy will do this |
| 12:51.37 | dany | no one? |
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| 12:52.41 | qq- | xok, stop spamming |
| 12:52.50 | dos000 | dutchfish, anyone has a web interface that you know ? |
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| 12:54.14 | dutchfish | dos000: packagesearch 'proxy web' |
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| 12:56.48 | themill | doublehp: stop ircing as root |
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| 13:00.05 | zaputr | nobody doesn't adjust .asoundrc ? |
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| 13:01.48 | tux33 | please, can someone help me test our jabber server? |
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| 13:02.57 | thewanderer1 | tux33: download a bot and run it against the server :P |
| 13:03.57 | dutchfish | hi, does debian-stable-announce has an rss feed and if so where can i find it? |
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| 13:04.37 | doublehp | how do i change the console resolution ? |
| 13:05.27 | themill | dutchfish: since it seems the list hasn't been created yet, no. |
| 13:06.11 | dutchfish | themill: ah ok, thanks for the info. |
| 13:06.36 | themill | dutchfish: actually, it has been created but the bug to do so hasn't been closed yet. |
| 13:06.52 | dutchfish | themill: ic, intresting ... |
| 13:07.17 | themill | dutchfish: debian probably won't provide an RSS feed for it, but there are plenty of others like gmane who will gateway it to other formats |
| 13:07.30 | doublehp | themill: why can't you just let people irciing as root, and just warn them as used to be 3 years ago ? |
| 13:07.30 | dutchfish | themill: fair enough. |
| 13:07.30 | amee2k | which package has alsaconf in testing these days? it used to be in alsa-utils but its not. can't find it with cache search either |
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| 13:07.46 | thewanderer1 | amee2k: I thought alsaconf was obsolete |
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| 13:08.08 | amee2k | maybe, but it used to work |
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| 13:08.34 | dutchfish | doublehp: it is not only dangerous but stupid as well. |
| 13:08.35 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 13:08.45 | thewanderer1 | and now the kernel should do its magic instead, amee2k |
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| 13:09.11 | doublehp | dutchfish: 80% machines only have a root account, no other user |
| 13:09.26 | amee2k | i've got a system with an ES1869 chip that works in stable, but since i put testing on it all i hear is repetitive static noise |
| 13:09.36 | amee2k | like sometihng isn't filling the buffer properly |
| 13:09.41 | dutchfish | doublehp: so you mail servers run as root? hah ... |
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| 13:09.50 | doublehp | dutchfish: any box from which i use IRC as root, is reinstalled within 60mn |
| 13:10.00 | nevyn | dutchfish: good luck if you ever have to do SOX |
| 13:10.02 | nevyn | bleh |
| 13:10.16 | nevyn | doublehp: that should be |
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| 13:10.45 | doublehp | nevyn: as usual, this chan keeps answering my troll, and not my debian technical issue |
| 13:11.01 | themill | don't troll if you wish to remain in the channel at all, then |
| 13:11.07 | nevyn | umm fbconfig or something ;) |
| 13:11.37 | nevyn | doublehp: what do you want to change it to? |
| 13:11.44 | amee2k | i took that as an indicator that either a) the auto configuration has gone wrong somewhere, or b) the module is broken |
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| 13:11.53 | nevyn | and vga framebuffer console or normal txt mode console? |
| 13:11.57 | amee2k | obviously hoping for the former due to being easier to fix |
| 13:12.49 | doublehp | nevyn: anything better than 640x480; at least 1024x768, possibly 1400x1050 |
| 13:13.54 | doublehp | nevyn: idk |
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| 13:14.51 | dutchfish | doublehp: inside your kerneldoc [Documentation]/fb/vesafb.txt |
| 13:14.53 | lweight | ok, so how can I remove and reinstall my entire sound subsystem? |
| 13:15.07 | doublehp | dutchfish: we are on #debian, not #LSF |
| 13:15.17 | lweight | I'm getting nowhere trying to fix recording, and wonder if I might have some mismatch of libraries |
| 13:15.25 | nevyn | doublehp: this is a kernel thing dutchfish is correct |
| 13:15.37 | doublehp | nevyn: and kernel things are set in grub conf files |
| 13:15.40 | themill | doublehp: sure, that clearly means that we should go and find the documentation for you |
| 13:15.42 | nevyn | yes. |
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| 13:16.12 | doublehp | nevyn: except that grub2 (which sux and broke my box this morning because Debian docs are outdate) have more than 30 conf files |
| 13:16.14 | nevyn | doublehp: but to find out how to change how the kernel runs you need to read the docs for...shock.. the kernel |
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| 13:16.46 | doublehp | themill: so, the purpose of an interactive live IRC chan is to answer people RTFM ? |
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| 13:16.59 | themill | doublehp: no, it's to help them find the right manual. |
| 13:17.23 | doublehp | nevyn: 10y ago, it was as simple as vga=791 in menu.lst . today, its all messed up |
| 13:17.33 | pipeline | doublehp: yeah pretty much. How else will you find the manual ? |
| 13:17.52 | AndIrc | . |
| 13:18.04 | nevyn | doublehp: that still should work afaik. but it's been some years since I did this. |
| 13:18.21 | doublehp | nevyn: grub2 != grub1 . grub1 works; grub2 sux |
| 13:18.26 | nevyn | additionally the debian kernels for x86 may only have fbcon as a module not a builtin |
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| 13:18.31 | themill | "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" |
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| 13:19.09 | doublehp | themill: too late, i spent 4h to make thie debian work, and *boot*, now, i just want to change the resolution |
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| 13:19.32 | doublehp | just need the 2010 equivalent for vga=791 |
| 13:20.13 | doublehp | themill: if i reinstall grub, i KNOW it will break all my other OS |
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| 13:20.23 | dos000 | is there a way i can get tshark to display the user that owns the process making the traffic ? |
| 13:20.29 | themill | I believe you can still use that. I can't say that I ever bother though so I don't know. I either only use X on a machine or only use ssh. |
| 13:20.34 | degli | ciao a tutti |
| 13:21.00 | nevyn | doublehp: in 2010 like in 2000 vga=791 is what you want. |
| 13:21.01 | rendar | degli, english please |
| 13:21.06 | degli | sorry:D |
| 13:21.18 | doublehp | nevyn: where do i put that ? |
| 13:21.18 | rendar | non fa niente :) |
| 13:21.30 | themill | doublehp: /etc/default/grub |
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| 13:21.34 | doublehp | nevyn: in 2000, there used to be a line #vga= ... just uncomment, not here anymore |
| 13:21.37 | themill | (or use dpkg-reconfigure) |
| 13:21.52 | doublehp | themill: this only affects grub itself, as linux starts, back to 640x480 |
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| 13:22.11 | themill | doublehp: "this" being what? |
| 13:22.20 | dutchfish | doublehp: /etc/default/grub a line like GRUB_GFXMODE=1680x1050x24 , next time you really should RTFM (read-the-fine-manual) |
| 13:22.33 | dff | hi, i just installed debian 5 and by accident got gnome, i only want a console screen, how do i disable gnome? |
| 13:22.41 | dff | err |
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| 13:22.44 | nevyn | dutchfish: that changes grub's gfx mode not linux's |
| 13:22.50 | doublehp | themill: GRUB_GFXMODE in /etc/default/grub . no other mention of vga or video in the file |
| 13:22.55 | AndIrc | . |
| 13:22.55 | dff | i mean the GUI |
| 13:23.05 | themill | doublehp: no-one mentioned that line at all |
| 13:23.18 | dutchfish | nevyn: yes, as an additive for my former explanation of the console layout. |
| 13:23.28 | doublehp | dutchfish: next line is "run vbeinfo" which is not installed, and not installable. vbetools do not provide vbeinfo |
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| 13:23.49 | acemi | dff: do you want to remove X or only stop to run? |
| 13:24.12 | nevyn | dff: apt-get remove gdm |
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| 13:24.36 | themill | doublehp: let's recap: [13:21] <nevyn> doublehp: in 2010 like in 2000 vga=791 is what you want. [13:21] <doublehp> nevyn: where do i put that ? [13:21] <themill> doublehp: /etc/default/grub |
| 13:24.41 | scoobertron | dff: there should be a package called gnome-desktop or something which removes all of gnome - but you might still have a lot of gui related stuff installed. I would be tempted to reinstall and choose the right options |
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| 13:25.28 | doublehp | i understand; now, there is just nothing written at all; only expercienced (and quiet) users know that GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX should be =vga=791, but all comments and descriptions have been removed . All template line have been removed. Right ? |
| 13:25.30 | themill | dff: "/msg dpkg remove gnome" may be of use. Or perhaps you just want to disable the X startup, "/msg dpkg nodm" |
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| 13:25.46 | dff_ | acemi, i want to have it stop running |
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| 13:25.53 | dff_ | and not launch on boot |
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| 13:26.11 | dff_ | nevyn, read above ^^ |
| 13:26.12 | doublehp | themill: in 2000, template menu.lst used to explicitely state "uncomment the following vga=791 line |
| 13:26.58 | dutchfish | doublehp: you far away of what happened, think grub2. |
| 13:27.01 | nevyn | dff_: so just reconfig the rc links in /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm to /etc/rc2.d/K99gdm (there's a right way to do this with update-rc but I never groked it) |
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| 13:27.31 | dff_ | nevyn, that makes no sense at all to me |
| 13:27.43 | acemi | update-rc.d gdm3 disable |
| 13:27.48 | doublehp | dutchfish: grub2 never been intuitive to me. It again broke my box this morning, BECAUSE i did read the manual |
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| 13:28.13 | dutchfish | doublehp: i advice to reread all that has been said, the answer is provided. end of story. |
| 13:28.17 | themill | doublehp: sure. I'm sure the grub-pc maintainers will appreciate (a) constructive feedback (/msg dpkg reportbug) and (b) a patch to add that in for new installations. Actually, my squeeze installations automagically pick some other high-res font on their own. |
| 13:28.18 | nevyn | dff_: what acemi said. |
| 13:28.21 | complete_ | Good morning, Debian! May the sun shine on your happy faces all day. According to uptime, one of my VMs has rebooted tonight. Any ideas how to analyze what caused the reboot? |
| 13:28.46 | dff_ | okey |
| 13:28.48 | nevyn | complete_: read the messages where the reboot is. see what happened just before that? |
| 13:29.37 | complete_ | nevyn: in /var/log/messages? |
| 13:29.37 | doublehp | dutchfish: no; /etc/default/grub does not contain any comment, or mention to what should be done. All comments and descriptions have been REMOVED |
| 13:29.49 | nevyn | complete_: that's where I'd start. |
| 13:30.08 | themill | doublehp: there never any there to remove. |
| 13:30.08 | doublehp | themill: all reports i reported 8y ago have always been ignored. Today, i again met 3 bugs in the installer |
| 13:30.21 | dff_ | update-rc.d gdm3 disable |
| 13:30.22 | dff_ | err |
| 13:30.22 | themill | doublehp: and they will remain there if not reported. |
| 13:30.56 | complete_ | nevyn: there is tons of stuff at 9:55 today, which seems to be the time of the reboot. |
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| 13:31.22 | doublehp | themill: reported ones have never been fixed |
| 13:31.44 | dff_ | nevyn, acemi, /etc/something/gdm3 not found |
| 13:31.46 | dff_ | i cant paste |
| 13:31.50 | debianer | how to not update some software? |
| 13:32.03 | dff_ | init.d |
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| 13:32.18 | acemi | dff_: if this Lenny, gdm3 -> gdm |
| 13:32.23 | dff_ | okey! |
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| 13:32.53 | nevyn | debianer: you can set the status to held in aptitude or in dselect using = |
| 13:32.58 | doublehp | themill: in the installer, when you refuse to install grub in the MBR, it says "to install grub in sda1, enter hd0,0"; so, for sda3, i had put hd0,2, and grub in fact was installed in sda2 .. what deleted the os there. Because for grub *2* sda3 is hd0,3, dispite what is said in the installer menus. |
| 13:33.15 | dutchfish | doublehp: i admit there are still bugs in grub2, mainly because not all features have been in form fromer grub. some will have wont-fix some will be fixed. if you find new ones please do report. |
| 13:33.17 | doublehp | themill: because the installed have been written for grub1, and have not been updated |
| 13:33.31 | doublehp | dutchfish: the bug is not in grub 2, but in the DEBIAN INSTALLET |
| 13:33.46 | dutchfish | s/form fromer/from former |
| 13:33.59 | doublehp | dutchfish: tired of reporting bugs that are never fixed. |
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| 13:36.35 | complete_ | nevyn: there is this line at 6:57: |
| 13:36.36 | complete_ | Dec 10 06:57:41 hostname rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="4.2.0" x-pid="20666" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] rsyslogd was HUPed, type 'lightweight'. |
| 13:36.48 | complete_ | nevyn: and then nothing until 9:55 which seems to be the restart. |
| 13:38.21 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Hello! I upgraded my Debian router from lenny to squeeze. |
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| 13:42.38 | complete_ | So i have this machine that rebooted tonight at 9:55:36 and i have no clue why. Any ideas where i could look? |
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| 13:43.06 | nevyn | complete_: did you say it was a VM.? |
| 13:43.14 | complete_ | nevyn: yes |
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| 13:43.36 | nevyn | check the host log at around 9:45 - 9:55 |
| 13:44.36 | complete_ | nevyn: i cant. i rent the vm from an on-demand provider. domainfactory. its called jiffybox. its a great product. you can create and delete vms with just a click. |
| 13:44.45 | dany | I have a big problem. I installed debian and now grub doesn't see anymore ubuntu. This last was in a ext4 partition. Any idea how to solve this mess? |
| 13:45.40 | nevyn | take 30 lines of log and email the support. A suggested subject is "WTF?" |
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| 13:46.25 | complete_ | nevyn: i think i just nuke the vm and create another one. |
| 13:46.54 | complete_ | nevyn: i dont need much reliability on those machines. i only use them for numbercrunching. |
| 13:47.22 | complete_ | i have a ton of machines there for months now and this is the first downtime. |
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| 13:50.16 | pallgone | dany: don't worry that should be a problem |
| 13:50.33 | pallgone | uhm *shouldn't3 |
| 13:50.40 | pallgone | grr, shouldn't |
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| 14:01.39 | newbie` | hello |
| 14:02.01 | newbie` | how can i set a limit per user for the background process |
| 14:04.04 | dff | im trying to add a user with adduser. when im prompted for the password i type one in. but the instant i do that it cycles to the retype the password and passwords do not match |
| 14:04.10 | AimHere | newbie`, look into 'ulimit' |
| 14:04.20 | AimHere | not sure if it's quite what you want, but it's in the ballpark |
| 14:04.30 | dff | ive tried as root and with sudo |
| 14:04.33 | dff | both are the same |
| 14:05.23 | newbie` | AimHere as root or as the user? |
| 14:05.37 | AimHere | It's a root command |
| 14:06.17 | newbie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:06.18 | newbie` | unlimited |
| 14:06.21 | newbie` | i dont understand |
| 14:06.32 | abrotman | it has a man page |
| 14:06.39 | newbie` | :/ |
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| 14:06.50 | newbie` | no manual for ulimit too... |
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| 14:07.10 | abrotman | newbie`: which OS is this? |
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| 14:08.03 | newbie` | debian 64 |
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| 14:09.17 | acemi | /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 14:11.05 | newbie` | thanks |
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| 14:20.07 | X-Raimo | hello when i do make of pam_smb I have this: http://paste.org/pastebin/home |
| 14:20.43 | pallgone | X-Raimo: oh, nice, nothing? :) |
| 14:21.23 | X-Raimo | pallgone: how to fix this? |
| 14:21.46 | pallgone | X-Raimo: the pase is empty |
| 14:21.49 | pallgone | paste |
| 14:22.00 | liable | moooo |
| 14:22.41 | X-Raimo | sorry, this one: http://paste.org/pastebin/view/26030 |
| 14:23.01 | X-Raimo | this is embarassing... |
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| 14:23.38 | X-Raimo | build-essential,cvs and make are installed |
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| 14:26.29 | Eggdrops | hello everyone. how can I limit the number of prossess for a user in debian for example user 1 will be able to run only 2 prossess liek eggdrop ? |
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| 14:27.32 | fas3r | helllo |
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| 14:29.40 | fas3r | i have a question about openvpn + ldap. I would like to know. the first authentification is the for vpn throught the port 1194 for example.. my question is about LADP auth.... the ldap auth will be transit by the port 1194 right ? |
| 14:30.13 | fas3r | imean i dont have to open over port for outside |
| 14:30.23 | fas3r | other* |
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| 14:34.06 | dutchfish | X-Raimo: what are you trying to do? as far as i know there is only libpam-smbpass. What debian version are you building for btw? |
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| 14:35.55 | dany | hi |
| 14:36.08 | Fus25 | hi |
| 14:36.09 | dany | can you tell me why I can't see the ext4 partitions? |
| 14:36.15 | dany | I'm on lenny |
| 14:36.44 | X-Raimo | dutchfish: debian lenny. I want to use pam to auth users strait from MS AD |
| 14:36.47 | dany | I installed debian and now I can't boot anymore ubuntu. There isn't anymore in the grub damn |
| 14:37.09 | abrotman | whihc version of Debian? |
| 14:37.29 | dany | leeny |
| 14:37.31 | dany | lenny* |
| 14:38.05 | dutchfish | X-Raimo: yep, then you need libpam-smbpass. see samba source. |
| 14:38.39 | dutchfish | X-Raimo: http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/samba.html |
| 14:38.48 | abrotman | dany: lenny doesn't understand ext4 .. you would need to use either the grub2 from backports.org or upgrade your debian to squeeze |
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| 14:39.12 | acemi | dany: or use ubuntu grub |
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| 14:39.56 | dany | abrotman, are you saying to download the grub2 and compile it from source? is there a simple command to upgrade to squeeze? |
| 14:39.58 | abrotman | acemi: he has to get into ubuntu first ... |
| 14:40.02 | abrotman | !tell dany about bpo |
| 14:40.03 | dany | acemi, how can I use it? |
| 14:40.08 | abrotman | !tell dany about lenny->squeeze |
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| 14:40.37 | acemi | is it not possible to boot with lenny kernel and mount the ubuntu parition as root |
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| 14:41.16 | dany | what a mess .. |
| 14:41.37 | X-Raimo | dutchfish: is samba installation is required for libpam-smbpass? The good about pam-smb, that pam-smb doesn't require samba isntalled |
| 14:42.16 | dutchfish | X-Raimo: see: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libpam-smbpass |
| 14:42.49 | dutchfish | X-Raimo: only samba-common |
| 14:43.23 | X-Raimo | dutchfish: thanx a lot I see. |
| 14:43.23 | acemi | dany: ignore my last line |
| 14:43.30 | dutchfish | X-Raimo: wich an smbclient also already needs |
| 14:43.54 | dutchfish | X-Raimo: yw |
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| 14:44.50 | dany | acemi, ok |
| 14:44.58 | dany | so it's better to pass to squeeze |
| 14:45.01 | dany | I have an old kernel |
| 14:45.09 | dany | so I have to recompile the kernel |
| 14:45.36 | dany | because you said me Make sure you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "a |
| 14:46.24 | abrotman | dany: that's not really what you need to do |
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| 14:46.38 | abrotman | the command prior to that iwll install the .32 kernel for you |
| 14:47.01 | dany | abrotman, cool |
| 14:47.36 | dany | I m going to try it. Thank you very much| |
| 14:47.37 | dany | ! |
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| 14:51.18 | pallgone | dany: you can also try this: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/ |
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| 14:52.27 | djura-san | o// |
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| 15:01.18 | Pinchiukas | Do I really have to install the compiler to install vmware-tools? Isn't there a binary package or something? |
| 15:01.40 | s1gnius | Pinchiukas: depends on your distro i think |
| 15:02.17 | Pinchiukas | s1gnius: I'm using squeeze. |
| 15:02.18 | s1gnius | but i have pretty much given up with VMware its a buggy pile of crap these days and VMware have little to no interest in fixing bugs these days for some reason or another |
| 15:02.41 | Pinchiukas | What do you suggest instead? VirtualBox? |
| 15:02.58 | Pinchiukas | I want a Debian environment under Windows 7. |
| 15:03.16 | s1gnius | then yeah i would say virtual box is probably a better option |
| 15:03.25 | Pinchiukas | That's strange... |
| 15:03.32 | Pinchiukas | Why would VMWare abandon Linux? |
| 15:03.47 | Bushmills | for linux guests, running the same kernel as host? |
| 15:03.58 | pipeline | KVM |
| 15:04.15 | pipeline | not sure virtualbox has any future, KVM and VMware workstation certainly do |
| 15:04.23 | pipeline | And KVM has the added bonus of being non-proprietary |
| 15:04.46 | s1gnius | Well there is that Oracle have destroyed pretty much everything else they touched from Sun |
| 15:04.48 | Pinchiukas | KVM? Under Windows 7? |
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| 15:05.11 | pipeline | I assumed your question backwards, because that's a really ridiculous question to ask in #debian. |
| 15:05.17 | pipeline | Ask #windowsnt or #hyperv or something |
| 15:05.33 | pipeline | how the heck would we know about virtualization that doesn't run on debian ? |
| 15:05.42 | Pinchiukas | I assumed people with needs like me also run debian, that's why I asked. |
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| 15:06.02 | pipeline | unsurprisingly I think you'll find an often lot of #debian's participants run debian :) |
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| 15:06.54 | Pinchiukas | ... |
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| 15:24.55 | burnclouds | i need to copy all my jpgs from multiple sub directories |
| 15:25.26 | Shadow` | ur moving ur porn? |
| 15:25.48 | burnclouds | the issue is the structure pics/a/00001.jpg pics/b/00001.jpg |
| 15:26.13 | burnclouds | all need to go to pictures/*.jpg |
| 15:26.23 | Shadow` | make bash script? |
| 15:26.48 | burnclouds | ok but my bash foo is not strong enough for this |
| 15:26.58 | Shadow` | google? |
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| 15:27.20 | burnclouds | i looked |
| 15:27.31 | pallgone | something like: find -iname "*jpg" -exec cp "{}" target_dir/. \; |
| 15:27.41 | pallgone | ^ not tested |
| 15:27.52 | Shadow` | or that |
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| 15:28.29 | burnclouds | ive done some like that but when two dirs have files with the same name one gets lost |
| 15:28.37 | Mussious | hi |
| 15:29.10 | eshat | dd writes an small iso image very slowly to my kingston USB Stick, only 300 kB/s. Why is it so slowly ? |
| 15:29.23 | pallgone | eshat: bs=1M |
| 15:30.37 | eshat | pallgone: blocksize ? Can you explain, what and why ? (I am not too familiar with dd) or should reading the man page help ? |
| 15:30.52 | eshat | is starting another copy for comparison |
| 15:30.59 | Mussious | when I try to run blender, or stepmania I have this error: Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA libGL.so |
| 15:30.59 | Mussious | and libGLcore.so shared libraries (libGL.so version: |
| 15:30.59 | Mussious | 195.36.24; libGLcore.so version: 195.36.31). |
| 15:31.09 | Mussious | Does onyone knoiw how to solve thet? |
| 15:31.16 | stew | eshat: just use cp. it uses a more efficient blocksize than the default from dd |
| 15:31.27 | Mussious | anyone know* |
| 15:31.31 | Mussious | that* |
| 15:31.32 | Mussious | sorry |
| 15:31.37 | pallgone | eshat: it's just writing 512 bytes per write |
| 15:31.43 | pallgone | eshat: (per default) |
| 15:31.50 | eshat | stew: well it is an iso file (grml) and it needs to be copied over /dev/sd? |
| 15:32.05 | stew | cheby: cp foo.iso /dev/sd |
| 15:32.11 | Mussious | i have open nvidia drivers |
| 15:32.11 | stew | cheby: err, not you |
| 15:32.25 | burnclouds | find pictures/ -iname *.jpg -exec cp -iv -t ~/pics {} \; |
| 15:32.35 | stew | eshat: if you were doing "dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sda" then i'm saying that "cp foo.iso /dev/sda" would do the same thing faster |
| 15:32.44 | burnclouds | gives me multiple overwrite warnings |
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| 15:33.12 | eshat | stew: really ? ok, I ll try that |
| 15:33.24 | pallgone | stew: why are people using dd then? |
| 15:33.31 | stew | pallgone: i don't know |
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| 15:34.30 | pallgone | hmm, I'll try that next time too :) |
| 15:34.51 | eshat | what? 394 MB/s ? with bs=1M |
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| 15:37.01 | uday | i have installed debian squeeze beta1 and trying to setup repositories in synaptic. But, when i click Settings-->Repositories nothing happens. can someone help. |
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| 15:40.18 | Diytto | :) |
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| 15:43.10 | acemi | uday: i don't how is doing with synaptic but you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list to add repos |
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| 15:43.40 | phogg | or add a file to /etc/apt/sourced.list.d/ |
| 15:43.49 | abrotman | sources.list.d/ |
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| 15:44.36 | pallgone | eshat: it's probably caching |
| 15:44.46 | Mussious | can anyone help me? |
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| 15:48.33 | petisnnake | If I just installed git on my debian server, and I have a git.cgi file in /var/www, what would be the easiest / safest way to enable cgi in that folder? |
| 15:48.34 | burnclouds | exit |
| 15:48.52 | petisnnake | /var/www/git* |
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| 15:49.20 | eshat | Mussious: well, isn't it obvious ? simply check aptitude for the same version |
| 15:50.08 | eshat | you could also do a " dpkg -l | grep -E "195.36.24|195.36.31" to see which packages are meant |
| 15:50.22 | Mussious | i've purged everything connected with restricted drivers |
| 15:51.02 | eshat | Mussious: do a "dpkg -S libGL.do" |
| 15:51.18 | eshat | and same with libGLcore.so |
| 15:51.43 | eshat | maybe you've installed local packages which override opengl files ? |
| 15:51.51 | Mussious | do i have to purge them? |
| 15:51.56 | eshat | no |
| 15:52.15 | eshat | simply equal the package versions |
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| 15:52.22 | stew | Mussious: did you use the nvidia .bin installer? |
| 15:52.32 | Mussious | right |
| 15:52.47 | Mussious | yes i used |
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| 15:53.03 | themill | petisnnake: you have presumably realised that the gitweb package is already in debian. |
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| 15:56.21 | Mussious | eshat: sorry for being noob, but i don't know how |
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| 16:01.56 | Shadow` | is there a way to let konquerer use javascripting from FF or something? quite a few sites look cracked up in konquerer |
| 16:02.23 | abrotman | why not just use iceweasel instead of konq ? |
| 16:02.41 | Shadow` | because i like konq |
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| 16:03.33 | dany | hi again |
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| 16:19.20 | alecjw | hi, i'm trying to recover data from a failing drive, but syslog |
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| 16:19.35 | alecjw | *but syslog's shouting at me about general protection errors |
| 16:20.41 | alecjw | http://pastebin.ca/2016558 <--- theres the output, how can i recover the data? |
| 16:21.10 | JPT | mhh |
| 16:21.18 | JPT | try a 1:1 image and rescue the data using it |
| 16:21.26 | JPT | but that does not look very good :/ |
| 16:21.51 | alecjw | JPT, i got the same sort of errors when my last hard drive failed. anyway, i'll give dd a try |
| 16:22.09 | JPT | well, one thing is irritating me |
| 16:22.19 | JPT | the kernel messages contain eth0... |
| 16:22.25 | JPT | maybe the hdd is still working... |
| 16:22.31 | alecjw | yeah i thought that seemed odd too |
| 16:22.38 | JPT | try it in a different machine |
| 16:23.09 | alecjw | tell you what, since eth0's mentioned, i could try using a different network interface first |
| 16:23.51 | JPT | lol...right |
| 16:23.53 | JPT | m( |
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| 16:24.47 | alecjw | if that doesnt work, ill try the hard disk in a different machine |
| 16:25.19 | JPT | good luck :) |
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| 16:26.37 | alecjw | ty :) |
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| 16:33.10 | Raziel | anyone using a thinkpad t42 ? |
| 16:34.42 | abrotman | that's not a very good question |
| 16:34.53 | Raziel | abrotman: uhm, you're right |
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| 16:35.33 | Raziel | how to enable touchpad in debian squeeze? i can't tap and click anymore since i upgraded from lenny to squeeze |
| 16:35.35 | abrotman | "I'm using a T42, and when I turn it on, it lights the LCD screen on fire" :) |
| 16:36.03 | Raziel | ? |
| 16:36.06 | abrotman | Raziel: gsynaptics ? |
| 16:36.46 | Raziel | yes but, what changed since debian lenny about touchpad ? |
| 16:36.55 | Raziel | i didn't need gsynaptic in debian lenny |
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| 16:38.37 | stew | the synaptics xorg driver changed |
| 16:38.52 | stew | Raziel: synclient/syndaemon is another option |
| 16:39.29 | chomwitt | why the apt how-to manual is tagged obselete? |
| 16:39.41 | ScottG | Is there a way to give `date` unix time input and get formatted output? |
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| 16:40.13 | abrotman | ScottG: man date .. it has samples IIRC |
| 16:40.18 | abrotman | chomwitt: huh? |
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| 16:40.30 | zinx | ScottG: date -d @UNIXTIME |
| 16:40.49 | zinx | e.g, date -d @0 for the epoch |
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| 16:41.05 | Raziel | ok, solved |
| 16:41.13 | Raziel | i unloaded the psmouse kernel module |
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| 16:41.25 | Raziel | and reloaded it with the proto=imps option |
| 16:41.28 | Raziel | and it's working |
| 16:41.31 | ScottG | zinx: Thanks. That wasn't in the man pages :/ the @ thing) |
| 16:41.31 | Raziel | good |
| 16:41.33 | Raziel | debian wiki ++ |
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| 16:43.02 | Raziel | another thing now :) |
| 16:43.16 | Raziel | since i upgraded to debian squeeze, bluetooth is not working anymore |
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| 16:43.33 | Raziel | since i'm using a laptop, it is enabled by pressing fn-f5 |
| 16:43.55 | Raziel | and it used to report an usb device detached or attached on fn-f5 |
| 16:43.58 | Raziel | now nothing |
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| 16:44.01 | Raziel | what to do ? |
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| 16:44.49 | nirazio | Is it possible to change the default application that archive manager uses? |
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| 16:46.51 | pinkisntwell | suspend is not working on my laptop, it's a compaq cq60. anyone have any experience with that? it appears to be pretty common |
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| 16:57.46 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: try both flavors of suspend. I've never had a laptop that could both s2ram and s2disk, but every laptop I've owned can do one or the other. |
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| 16:59.01 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: i tried using hibernate, but it fails to unload nvidia |
| 16:59.23 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: strange -- I don't have to unload nvidia for s2disk --force |
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| 17:00.22 | rendar | i need some package from apt-get to install nvidia drivers? |
| 17:00.45 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: so you need to force? |
| 17:00.58 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: often... you have to --force if your laptop isn't on a list of specific models. |
| 17:02.04 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: i forced s2ram and the result was very ugly. it suspended, resumed, but the system was unusable, it was almost as if it was on drugs |
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| 17:03.27 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: yep. Trial and error, man. |
| 17:03.44 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: out of my three laptops right now, one only works with s2ram, and two only work with s2disk. Try it and see. |
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| 17:04.20 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: (obviously they are for work, I am not a crazy person who buys multiple recent-model laptops for fun.) |
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| 17:04.38 | laurus | On the Desktop install of Debian Squeeze, is PulseAudio installed by default? |
| 17:04.43 | pinkisntwell | well i think i tried both and neither works... i'll try again. suspend is important for me |
| 17:05.06 | themill | pinkisntwell: the in-kernel suspend in the squeeze kernels seems to be a lot better than uswsusp in the lenny kernels |
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| 17:06.46 | h3sp4wn | pinkisntwell: Maybe try tuxonice |
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| 17:07.27 | pinkisntwell | h3sp4wn: it doesn't seem as tuxonice is available on lenny |
| 17:07.51 | queso | I have been using ubuntu for 2 years now and am looking for something more stable. But lenny's packages are too out-of-date for my needs. Would squeeze sort of be a middle-of-the-road option? Another question: When squeeze becomes stable, will testing squeeze installs upgrade safely to squeeze stable? |
| 17:08.23 | pipeline | queso: upgrades are always safe, downgrades are always perilous |
| 17:08.52 | thewanderer1 | queso: squeeze does have more recent packages, but at a price - less stability (I actually find it similar to Ubuntu's stable...) |
| 17:09.02 | queso | pipeline: am I right to assume that squeeze is more stable than current releases of ubuntu? ubuntu is based on sid, right? |
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| 17:09.12 | pipeline | queso: even sid itself is more stable than ubuntu |
| 17:09.12 | queso | thewanderer1: okay, that's what I thought. |
| 17:09.29 | queso | pipeline: hmm, that's probably saying something. |
| 17:09.47 | thewanderer1 | queso: Ubuntu is based on sid, but 6-month-old sid - they freeze it and work on it, and release under Ubuntu name |
| 17:10.04 | abrotman | and offtopic here? |
| 17:10.07 | queso | I got a new laptop for work and have to re-create my entire development environment so I was thinking about trying squeeze. |
| 17:10.16 | Raziel | ok, got bluetooth to work again |
| 17:10.30 | pipeline | I like to run dev environments inside a VM so that my desktop can be independent of the dev work |
| 17:10.36 | thewanderer1 | queso: well, try it, at least you're not gonna break anything |
| 17:10.53 | queso | thewanderer1: thanks, I will give it a try. |
| 17:12.29 | thewanderer1 | actually, with hardware virtualization on a laptop, running a VM is not such a bad idea - tried it once, went smoothly but decreased battery life |
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| 17:16.16 | laurus | queso rocks! I'm so happy to hear that |
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| 17:24.45 | yoshio | !tell rendar about nvidia |
| 17:25.02 | yoshio | !tell rendar about nouveau |
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| 17:25.39 | rendar | yoshio, i've already read that, but i still have some problems |
| 17:25.49 | rendar | nvidia-kernel-common is not recognized as a valid package by apt-get |
| 17:25.52 | rendar | so i can't download it |
| 17:26.01 | rendar | and i can't use nouveau drivers |
| 17:26.14 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
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| 17:26.26 | yoshio | ,versions nvidia-kernel-common |
| 17:26.29 | judd | Package nvidia-kernel-common on i386 -- etch/contrib: 20051028+1; lenny/contrib: 20080825+1; squeeze/contrib: 20100522+1; sid/contrib: 20100522+2 |
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| 17:26.51 | rendar | i know, yoshio |
| 17:27.03 | rendar | E: Unable to locate package nvidia-kernel-common |
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| 17:27.17 | yoshio | rendar: are you on lenny or squeeze? |
| 17:27.23 | rendar | squeeze |
| 17:28.23 | yoshio | rendar: you have contrib listed in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 17:28.55 | rendar | cat sources.list|grep contrib returns blank line |
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| 17:29.58 | rendar | yoshio, i have to add that? |
| 17:30.06 | yoshio | rendar: make you squeeze line look like: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib (use whatever country code you are in) |
| 17:30.26 | rendar | ok |
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| 17:31.29 | rendar | yoshio, the others deb <url> i have to comment, or leave as is it now? |
| 17:31.45 | yoshio | rendar: you can also add "non-free" at the end also, but that's not the default in squeeze (I think) |
| 17:32.05 | rendar | ok |
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| 17:32.10 | yoshio | what other lines do you have? |
| 17:32.23 | rendar | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 17:32.32 | rendar | deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main |
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| 17:32.48 | rendar | and also with deb-src |
| 17:32.52 | daggett | Hi all |
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| 17:33.56 | yoshio | rendar: put "contrib" at the end of the security.debian.org line, I don't know what the cdn.debian.net is. don't worry about deb-src. do an apt-get update, then try installing the driver |
| 17:34.23 | rendar | ok, installed |
| 17:35.13 | daggett | I have a problem running VirtualBox (Oracle version) on my Debian host : when I start a virtual guest, my keyboard is unresponsive (can't use it anymore, the num lock and other LEDs are unresponsive) and there's the events/0 process that takes all my CPU. |
| 17:35.47 | daggett | I can't find anything about this problem on google |
| 17:37.17 | acemi | daggett: i installed vbox-ose from the debian repo and it works great |
| 17:37.44 | acemi | if you don't need usb support, try to install from debian |
| 17:38.19 | daggett | acemi: virtualbox-ose on my machine doesn't start : it says that it can't find VirtualBox installation : please reinstall... |
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| 17:39.14 | anddam | -bye |
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| 17:39.30 | acemi | daggett: virtualbox-ose from debian repo? |
| 17:39.37 | daggett | acemi: yes |
| 17:39.53 | acemi | strange |
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| 17:47.47 | dclarke | is there a wiki page somewhere which explains how to setup a wireless wlan0 interface ? |
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| 17:47.57 | dclarke | I mean on squeeze |
| 17:47.59 | Pinchiukas | I get TV over multicast from my ISP. |
| 17:48.04 | Pinchiukas | How do I route it to my lan? |
| 17:48.10 | Pinchiukas | My router is doing NAT. |
| 17:48.20 | bzaks1424 | Does anyone in here know of a bios project? |
| 17:48.31 | bzaks1424 | something so I can get usb booting on my mobo? |
| 17:48.37 | yoshio | !wireless |
| 17:48.37 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <brcm80211>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 17:48.39 | dclarke | bzaks1424: a what ? |
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| 17:49.11 | dclarke | bzaks1424: you mean like a firmware thing like openfirmware or prom ? |
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| 17:49.45 | dclarke | !what's my wireless |
| 17:49.45 | dpkg | Install the hwinfo package and execute "/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ , or ask me about <whats my hardware>. See also <wireless>. |
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| 17:51.28 | queso | I just installed a fresh copy of squeeze from a CD. I'm surprised there are no updates? What should my sources.list look like? (I removed the CD from it) |
| 17:51.29 | dclarke | yoshio: cool ... that looks very helpful, thank you |
| 17:51.45 | bzaks1424 | dclarke: I'm not sure how bioses are really done... but basically - my current bios is more limited than I'd like - and I'd like to see if I can push a newer tool to open up options - kind of like how dd-wrt does for wifi routers |
| 17:51.53 | dclarke | queso: I have the same question .. I still have the DVD in the drive here |
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| 17:52.56 | abrotman | queso: put yours in a pastebin .. we'll look at them |
| 17:53.29 | dclarke | bzaks1424: I'm only really familiar with openfirmware as I often work with Powerpc gear and things like that |
| 17:53.30 | Shadow` | that bot should come as an app default in start menu |
| 17:53.46 | dclarke | abrotman: good day Sir. |
| 17:54.38 | queso | abrotman: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/303601 |
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| 17:54.47 | abrotman | dclarke: hiya |
| 17:54.58 | bzaks1424 | dclarke: and my processor is definitely an x86... why would you be working on PPC? Isn't that kind of a rough arch to find packages for? |
| 17:54.59 | abrotman | queso: and where in the world are you ? |
| 17:55.10 | abrotman | queso: moment, there's a uchicago mirror IIRC |
| 17:55.11 | queso | abrotman: chicagoland |
| 17:55.24 | abrotman | queso: are you a .. cheesehead? :) |
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| 17:55.49 | dclarke | bzaks1424: rough? not at all. open source is open source. |
| 17:55.51 | abrotman | queso: add this to your sources.list: "deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ squeeze main" |
| 17:56.01 | queso | abrotman: queso sorta is a derivitive of my name . . and my jokes are cheesy |
| 17:56.13 | abrotman | dclarke: did you want me to look at your sources.list also ? |
| 17:56.23 | abrotman | queso: just thought maybe with the proximity ... |
| 17:56.38 | queso | abrotman: yes, actually, originally from WI |
| 17:56.40 | dclarke | abrotman: one sec .. I'm looking at binutils-2.21 that just released |
| 17:56.54 | abrotman | queso: i'll be there in 10 days or so .. my mom lives near stevens point |
| 17:57.38 | abrotman | dclarke: well, you could paste it, i could find you a mirror, etc |
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| 17:58.10 | tonytraductor | hi |
| 17:58.13 | queso | abrotman: probably have a lot of snow up there. hey, so where did you find the uchicago mirror? and why not add deb-src, too? why is it "squeeze main" instead of "squeeze/updates main"? |
| 17:58.25 | dclarke | abrotman: I have a good mirror at deb http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/debian/ squeeze main |
| 17:58.34 | abrotman | queso: debian.org/mirrors/list .. you don't need the deb-src unless you want source packages |
| 17:58.36 | abrotman | dclarke: ah okay |
| 17:58.36 | daggett | Ok, solved (well, at least partly) : I deactivated sound in the Virtual Guest, and I have no more problem |
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| 17:58.44 | abrotman | queso: and the "updates" are seucrity updates |
| 17:58.49 | tonytraductor | I'm having difficulties with hplip. It won't do anything I tell it (like cancel print jobs) and the printer is not responding (oddly, the scanner does, all-in-one device). |
| 17:59.21 | tonytraductor | I'm trying to find how to force cancel some print jobs, and also get the darned thing to respond again. |
| 17:59.35 | tonytraductor | googling has been unproductive |
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| 17:59.51 | dclarke | one moment .. brb |
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| 18:00.53 | queso | abrotman: so I should keep the security.debian.org lines in there, too? do security updates propogate to the mirrors? so, if I have just "squeeze" I get all package upgrades, but with "squeeze/updates" only security updates? |
| 18:00.57 | abrotman | yes |
| 18:01.12 | nirazio | How can I change the default application that archive manager uses? |
| 18:01.21 | abrotman | yes, just a few, there are main sources, and security sources (others also) |
| 18:01.28 | abrotman | but those two are the important ones |
| 18:01.54 | queso | abrotman: great, thanks, just want to make sure I understand everything correctly. |
| 18:03.58 | tonytraductor | one issue I am having is that the darned hp device manager keeps asking me for "password for tony on localhost", and I give it my password, and it keeps asking for it again, as if it does not accept the apssword, which I know is the password, because I use it to log into the machine, etc. |
| 18:04.22 | queso | When it says that a secondary mirror may be limited by space, does that mean limiting by available architectures? |
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| 18:09.08 | LeetDog1337 | guys, how would i edit this: http://pastebin.com/3jDWyaKv to show hours and minutes aswell? |
| 18:09.32 | bzaks1424 | Is there a good X config tool that won't boot up a ton of services? |
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| 18:11.52 | n0nam3 | # flood |
| 18:12.05 | n0nam3 | #flood |
| 18:12.43 | n0nam3 | shit. hi everyone. sorry for the pollution |
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| 18:13.11 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Hello! |
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| 18:13.57 | Emmanuel_Chanel | I cannot boot Debian by grub on the HDDs put on a SATA2 card with sil3124. |
| 18:14.09 | Emmanuel_Chanel | So I use lilo now. But I prefer grub, if I can use. |
| 18:14.42 | thewanderer1 | so you mean RAID on there? |
| 18:14.56 | pipeline | LeetDog1337: use the unix epoch to do the subtraction, then use perl or something to print a human readable duration from the seconds |
| 18:14.58 | thewanderer1 | or rather fakeraid |
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| 18:15.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah if thats a fakeraid thats probably why, grub doesnt like fakeraids |
| 18:16.42 | abrotman | queso: probably |
| 18:16.50 | Emmanuel_Chanel | thewanderer1: I don't use it as a RAID card. But your answer can be the reason. |
| 18:17.04 | thewanderer1 | Emmanuel_Chanel: are you running it in AHCI mode? |
| 18:17.09 | queso | abrotman: k |
| 18:17.45 | thewanderer1 | GRUB should handle IDE or AHCI drives well |
| 18:17.47 | Emmanuel_Chanel | No... I don't think so. I didn't set up around that at this upgrade. |
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| 18:17.48 | ansolas | ls |
| 18:17.53 | ansolas | lol |
| 18:17.55 | ansolas | oops |
| 18:18.15 | queso | What package should I install if I want a full-featured gnome setup? |
| 18:18.17 | ansolas | hello I just did a netinstall of debian minimal |
| 18:18.18 | thewanderer1 | Emmanuel_Chanel: those cards have several modes - AHCI or RAID |
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| 18:18.32 | thewanderer1 | queso: gnome-desktop-environment, I suppose |
| 18:18.37 | ansolas | how do i install cmake >=2.6.2 ? |
| 18:18.53 | abrotman | !tell queso about install gnome |
| 18:19.05 | abrotman | ansolas: which version of Debian was it ? |
| 18:19.12 | phaidros | is tehre a way to send a kind of signal to X to prevent screen blanking? (tried all DPMS settings and tricks in xinit and xsession, nothing seems to work) |
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| 18:19.33 | ansolas | 507 |
| 18:19.35 | queso | thewanderer1, abrotman: thx |
| 18:19.39 | ansolas | sais the iso |
| 18:19.40 | Emmanuel_Chanel | It would be AHCI since I use linux RAID and don't use the card as a RAID card. |
| 18:19.41 | abrotman | phaidros: could be your WM/DE also |
| 18:19.41 | phaidros | like touch /proc/some/x/interface/device/file .. ? |
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| 18:19.50 | abrotman | judd: versions cmake |
| 18:19.52 | judd | Package cmake on i386 -- etch: 2.4.5-1; etch-backports: 2.6.0-5~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.6.0-6; sid: 2.8.2-2; squeeze: 2.8.2-2; experimental: 2.8.3-1 |
| 18:19.53 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 18:20.03 | ansolas | debian-507-amd64-netinstall.iso |
| 18:20.04 | lenswipe | im trying to repair a grub installation but i cant get it work for whatever reason |
| 18:20.06 | abrotman | ansolas: you would have to use squeeze |
| 18:20.06 | bzaks1424 | hey lenswipe |
| 18:20.09 | ansolas | thats the iso i have |
| 18:20.13 | phaidros | abrotman: hm, it is ratpoison, showing an interface and occasionally vids in a exhibition |
| 18:20.20 | abrotman | oh |
| 18:20.35 | lenswipe | some live CDs like the debian one, i cant actually mount the debian partition and some i can mount the debian partition but i cant chroot to it |
| 18:20.38 | lenswipe | can someone help? |
| 18:20.44 | lenswipe | winshit overwrote the mbr |
| 18:20.45 | Emmanuel_Chanel | thewanderer1: Thank you very much for your good advice! |
| 18:20.50 | ansolas | i try to built crtmp server |
| 18:21.25 | ansolas | which iso would be better for me ? |
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| 18:21.56 | jhutchins_lt2 | lenswipe: It always does that - that's why you install it first. |
| 18:21.56 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: Debian install CD has a "rescue mode" |
| 18:22.00 | acemi | ansolas: squeeze iso, the current testing |
| 18:22.08 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, i know, i cant mount with it |
| 18:22.14 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt2, what are you on about? |
| 18:22.15 | ansolas | ok its version 6 ? |
| 18:22.25 | acemi | ansolas: yes |
| 18:22.41 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt2, the debian busybox shell wont let me mount the partition |
| 18:22.42 | jhutchins_lt2 | !fixmbr |
| 18:22.42 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". Also ask me about <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 18:22.50 | ansolas | ok cool thanks |
| 18:22.52 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: alright, what does mounting attempt return? |
| 18:22.57 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt2, somehow i dont think dpkg's pre-prepared responses will help here |
| 18:23.11 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, some kind of error saying the file or folder doesnt exist, when it clearly does |
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| 18:23.21 | phaidros | is tehre a way to send a kind of signal to X to prevent screen blanking? |
| 18:23.27 | jhutchins_lt2 | lenswipe: If you already know all the answers I guess you don't need us. |
| 18:23.33 | phaidros | automatically I mean |
| 18:23.38 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: alright, what filesystem does that partition contain? |
| 18:23.49 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, ext3 |
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| 18:24.21 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt2, im not saying that, im just saying that the "just fucking google it approach" isnt really justified here, because this isnt a jfgi issue |
| 18:24.21 | Arrowmaster | phaidros: if you run `xset q` and it says the screen saver and dpms options are disabled then it has to be the WM/DE doing it |
| 18:24.39 | bliss_ | HI I am following a howto VBoxHeadless - Running Virtual Machines With VirtualBox 2 On A Headless Debian Lenny Server |
| 18:24.49 | lenswipe | gimme a minute to boot into busybox live and ill let you know what a mount returns |
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| 18:24.51 | acemi | phaidros: xset s off -dpms |
| 18:25.00 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: alright, you'll need to show us the full command line you're using and the full error response |
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| 18:25.16 | queso | If I use xfce for a WM, will I still have access to things like the network-manager gui utility? |
| 18:25.20 | bliss_ | qhow can I finf out which is the latest virtualbox in the deb repos? |
| 18:25.23 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, mkdir /mnt/debian |
| 18:25.28 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, that runs perfectly |
| 18:25.46 | abrotman | queso: if you want to install it |
| 18:25.47 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, then i run, mount /dev/sda1/ /mnt/debian |
| 18:26.08 | Compgenius999 | lenswipe, mind pastebinning "fdisk -l" ? |
| 18:26.19 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: /dev/sda1/ is not a directory... |
| 18:26.22 | lenswipe | Compgenius999, how am i supposed to do that from busybox |
| 18:26.30 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: ought to be /dev/sda1 without the trailing slash |
| 18:26.31 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, .... |
| 18:26.34 | lenswipe | ok |
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| 18:26.45 | queso | Should I presume that xfce is as well supported by debian as gnome is? |
| 18:27.07 | Olathe | Where do I report that package openjdk-6-dbg has no file permissions (esp. execute) set properly? |
| 18:27.13 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, still doesnt work, it returns "mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/debian/ failed: no such file or directory" |
| 18:27.20 | bliss_ | liable: how are things downunder |
| 18:27.35 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: okay, see what dmesg tells you |
| 18:27.39 | lenswipe | .. |
| 18:27.55 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, i went through this with the people in #linux yesterday |
| 18:28.11 | lenswipe | they concluded that the debian livecd had a shit/broken implementation of mount |
| 18:28.13 | abrotman | queso: it has a large user base |
| 18:28.22 | lenswipe | however, what am i looking for in dmesg ? |
| 18:28.40 | phaidros | Arrowmaster: strangely xset -q says: Standby and Suspend times and afterwards that DPMS is disabled. but in xorg.conf I enbaled it and set everything to 0 o.O |
| 18:28.42 | lenswipe | i can see "Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0" |
| 18:28.49 | lenswipe | prods thewanderer1 |
| 18:28.51 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: any error message at the bottom regarding your mount |
| 18:28.57 | lenswipe | i dont see one |
| 18:29.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 957] by debhelper |
| 18:29.12 | lenswipe | there are no errors at the bottom regarding my mount |
| 18:29.15 | thewanderer1 | have you tried /mnt/debian without the trailing slash, too? |
| 18:29.19 | lenswipe | yes |
| 18:29.20 | bliss_ | abortman: my goodness you should get a gold watch at least for the time you have given answers in this channel |
| 18:29.23 | pipeline | LeetDog1337: http://pastebin.com/YRKdQ9A2 |
| 18:29.44 | Arrowmaster | phaidros: right, im not sure about ratpoison but on gnome it disables those in xset and takes over everything |
| 18:29.48 | abrotman | bliss_: uhm ... i have a watch i like :) |
| 18:30.06 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, /mnt/debian definately is a directory though |
| 18:30.10 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: tried it with any other install, for example Debian Live? |
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| 18:30.18 | lenswipe | yes |
| 18:30.24 | thewanderer1 | busybox mount is not very helpful |
| 18:30.26 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, i can mount with other live CDs but i cant chroot |
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| 18:30.37 | thewanderer1 | alright, what does the chroot return? |
| 18:30.39 | lenswipe | and the reason i cant chroot with other live CDs is because they arent 64 bit |
| 18:31.13 | yoshio | bliss_, type "/msg judd ,versions virtualbox-ose" |
| 18:31.21 | lenswipe | it returns some error to the effect of "GTFO and download a 64 bit live CD" which i did (ubuntu) which dropped me into busybox |
| 18:31.23 | lenswipe | *SCREAM* |
| 18:31.50 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, literally i started this at about 9pm last night and i was still hacking away at it at 4am |
| 18:32.16 | lenswipe | i could have gone for longer but 4am is when i started to actually fell dizzy with tiredness |
| 18:32.31 | lenswipe | however, any suggestions as to why mount doesnt work on the debian live DC? |
| 18:32.33 | lenswipe | CD* |
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| 18:32.37 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: alright, get an amd64 Debian |
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| 18:32.48 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, im using amd64 debian |
| 18:32.53 | lenswipe | thats the one that wont mount |
| 18:32.58 | thewanderer1 | Debian-Live or the installer? |
| 18:33.08 | lenswipe | both |
| 18:33.17 | thewanderer1 | so both refuse to mount that? |
| 18:33.18 | bliss_ | HI I am following a howto VBoxHeadless - Running Virtual Machines With VirtualBox 2 On A Headless Debian Lenny Server which is the latest build in the dep repos i have addesd this line deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny non-free" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list |
| 18:33.28 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, the CD is 64 bit, the partition im trying to restore grub on is 64 bit |
| 18:33.51 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, i havent tried 32 bit, but im 99% sure i know what the answer will be |
| 18:34.02 | Arrowmaster | ,versions virtualbox-ose |
| 18:34.02 | judd | Package virtualbox-ose on i386 -- etch-backports: 1.6.6-dfsg-3~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.6.6-dfsg-3; lenny-backports: 3.2.4-dfsg-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.2.10-dfsg-1; sid: 3.2.12-dfsg-1 |
| 18:34.22 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: no point in trying i386 to chroot into amd64... well, on Debian-Live amd64 you have a good chance of getting at least a decent error message |
| 18:34.28 | thewanderer1 | if not, strace comes to the rescue |
| 18:34.32 | bliss_ | judd: ok thanks |
| 18:34.40 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, this is amd64 debian im using right now |
| 18:34.52 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, the one thats giving me meaningless shit as error messages |
| 18:35.02 | lenswipe | "No such file or directory" <----What the fuck does that mean? |
| 18:35.27 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: this is the generic error |
| 18:35.33 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, so i see |
| 18:35.41 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: are you in busybox or GNU basic utils? |
| 18:35.44 | lenswipe | busybox |
| 18:35.50 | lenswipe | busybox on the liveCD |
| 18:35.55 | thewanderer1 | that's why it's clueless |
| 18:35.56 | lenswipe | i cant get into the linux partition right now thanks to winshit |
| 18:35.58 | thewanderer1 | get a proper userland |
| 18:36.03 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, how do i do that? |
| 18:36.12 | lenswipe | none of the others work |
| 18:36.15 | thewanderer1 | get sth like Debian-Live |
| 18:36.20 | lenswipe | right |
| 18:36.33 | lenswipe | gimme about 6 years while i download yet another fucking live CD |
| 18:36.59 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, http://live.debian.net/ |
| 18:37.01 | lenswipe | which one do i need? |
| 18:37.34 | bliss_ | judd: if I am running lenny it would be not a good idea to place a "sid" line in my sources pretty danagerous might as well build it from source , i must remember this is on a healess server |
| 18:37.48 | bliss_ | headless |
| 18:38.02 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: this would do: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_live_beta1/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-squeeze-live-beta1-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso |
| 18:38.16 | lenswipe | i went for the gnome desktop |
| 18:38.23 | thewanderer1 | 300MB more :) |
| 18:38.36 | lenswipe | i dont know how to use lxde |
| 18:38.48 | yoshio | so is contrib in /etc/apt/sources.list no longer added in squeeze on a new installation? |
| 18:38.54 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/amd64/bt-cd/debian-live-507-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso.torrent i went for that one |
| 18:39.00 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: okay, use whatever works... |
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| 18:40.02 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: how are you trying to mount that in the installer? at which point of the install? |
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| 18:40.15 | lenswipe | i go into rescue mode |
| 18:40.15 | thewanderer1 | before or after "detect disks"? |
| 18:40.20 | thewanderer1 | oh |
| 18:40.27 | lenswipe | and then i skip to the command terminal bit |
| 18:40.36 | thewanderer1 | doesn't rescue mode ask you on its own which partition to mount? |
| 18:40.39 | lenswipe | idk |
| 18:40.45 | lenswipe | the thing is tho, if i type cat /proc/partitions i can see the list of partitions |
| 18:40.49 | lenswipe | and how many blocks each one is |
| 18:40.50 | thewanderer1 | I can remember it having some sort of a wizard |
| 18:40.54 | lenswipe | so its seeing the disk |
| 18:40.55 | bliss_ | lenswipe: thanks for the url damm its 762mb mens a bigger cd |
| 18:41.05 | bliss_ | means |
| 18:41.08 | lenswipe | bliss_, the hell are you on about |
| 18:41.22 | bliss_ | the image url |
| 18:41.23 | thewanderer1 | did you try loading the filesystem modules before mounting? |
| 18:41.35 | lenswipe | bliss_, i was talking to thewanderer1 |
| 18:41.38 | thewanderer1 | try sth like modprobe ext2, ext3, whatever you had on there... |
| 18:41.39 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, how do i do that? |
| 18:41.40 | lenswipe | ok |
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| 18:41.55 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, "FATAL: Module ext3 not found" |
| 18:41.55 | bliss_ | so what outside now if you like mate |
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| 18:42.19 | lenswipe | bliss_, dude, whatever, im not in the mood for your crap, /ignore |
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| 18:42.31 | bliss_ | as you like |
| 18:42.57 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: alright, go through the rescue mode wizard |
| 18:43.00 | spicaroot | Debian Squeeze with xfce4. I need something with a gui that will let me select network and stuff. What should I use? |
| 18:43.06 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, what rescue mode wizard? |
| 18:43.14 | lenswipe | there isnt one |
| 18:43.20 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: you sure? |
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| 18:43.29 | ansolas | hmm now i installed squeeze to my virtual box but the network is not working ?! |
| 18:43.44 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: last time I tried it it presented me a bunch of ncurses dialogs to choose the filesystem I wish to chroot to... |
| 18:43.56 | ansolas | idea what could be wrong ? |
| 18:44.03 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, i cant chroot to something that isnt mounted tho |
| 18:44.19 | lenswipe | i have to mount it first |
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| 18:44.22 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: I know, but doesn't the rescue mode provide you a dialog? |
| 18:44.25 | lenswipe | no |
| 18:44.28 | lenswipe | in short |
| 18:44.35 | lenswipe | i get some reference to the installer |
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| 18:44.57 | ansolas | looks like it cant resolve the host names ? |
| 18:45.36 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: alright, boot it in install mode, get to the disk detection part, and then instead of actually creating partitions, switch to tty2 and work from there |
| 18:45.38 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, hang on, i do have a wizard here |
| 18:45.47 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: just what I meant |
| 18:45.49 | lenswipe | its detecting shit now |
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| 18:46.09 | acemi | ansolas: can you ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 18:46.15 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, its asking me what to use as the root filesystem |
| 18:46.20 | ansolas | let me try |
| 18:46.24 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, do i go for /dev/sda1 ? |
| 18:46.36 | lenswipe | aha |
| 18:46.41 | lenswipe | i have a chrooted shell to shda1 |
| 18:46.42 | lenswipe | :D |
| 18:46.58 | ansolas | nope |
| 18:46.58 | thewanderer1 | see, you only needed to follow a bunch of Windows... :P |
| 18:47.05 | abrotman | ping is not a good test |
| 18:47.05 | ansolas | its saying network unreachable |
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| 18:47.26 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: what network setup are you running? regarding both VBox and host machine |
| 18:47.32 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, it says install finished |
| 18:47.37 | lenswipe | lets see if it worked |
| 18:47.42 | ansolas | whcih should i use ? before i just used default |
| 18:47.51 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: did it work with default? |
| 18:48.08 | lenswipe | :D |
| 18:48.09 | ansolas | NAT, bridged, intenal , host only |
| 18:48.10 | lenswipe | it did |
| 18:48.15 | ansolas | default worked on lenny yes |
| 18:48.29 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: so under what conditions did it break? |
| 18:48.30 | ansolas | now with squeeze it did not |
| 18:48.32 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, so now im back into linuix, how do i configure grub to let me boot into my windows partition |
| 18:48.36 | thewanderer1 | okay, let's see |
| 18:48.38 | ansolas | i installed squeeze |
| 18:48.52 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: do you have vboxnetflt loaded? |
| 18:48.55 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, gimme a minute, while fsck runs |
| 18:48.56 | thewanderer1 | (kernel module) |
| 18:49.09 | ansolas | how do i know that ? |
| 18:49.11 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: in most cases it should be automagical |
| 18:49.18 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: lsmod | grep vboxnetflt |
| 18:49.22 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, well its not |
| 18:49.34 | Arrowmaster | didnt he say windows overwrote the mbr? so he probably needs to run grub-install |
| 18:49.43 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, it didnt add the winshit partition to the grub boot list, so ill have to do it myself |
| 18:49.57 | Arrowmaster | lenswipe: do you have os-prober installed? |
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| 18:50.08 | ansolas | nothing happens when i do this |
| 18:50.26 | lenswipe | Arrowmaster, i have no idea - i didnt install it... |
| 18:50.44 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: os-prober should detect Windoze on its own when you do |
| 18:50.52 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: modprobe vboxnetflt |
| 18:50.58 | thewanderer1 | and try again with VBox |
| 18:51.16 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, so i install it, and it will add winshit to the grub boot loader list? |
| 18:51.23 | ansolas | fatal , module .... not found |
| 18:51.40 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: I think it should... it's not like I used Windows during last 5 years |
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| 18:51.55 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, i just got a failed code1 after fsck ran |
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| 18:51.58 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: alright, what VirtualBox version and where did you get it from? |
| 18:52.10 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, i didnt see what it was though, something about contiguous blocks |
| 18:52.15 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: good, it means that your filesystem is feeling funky :P |
| 18:52.15 | ansolas | its the vbox version just form teh sun site |
| 18:52.26 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, oh great, just what i need |
| 18:52.26 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: ah, closed-source software? |
| 18:52.33 | ansolas | nah |
| 18:52.40 | ansolas | its working with lenny ! so ??? |
| 18:52.49 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, windows hasnt been installed for a week and its already causing problems |
| 18:53.00 | thewanderer1 | well, you should really grab the one from Debian repository in the first place |
| 18:53.10 | ansolas | this - http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads |
| 18:54.03 | ansolas | its strange why lennies network is working and squeeze isnt |
| 18:54.15 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: okay, now delete that and install the proper VirtualBox from Debian repository... |
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| 18:54.49 | lenswipe | ansolas, that is indeed strange, its usually the other way round |
| 18:55.02 | ansolas | ok i try to find it |
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| 18:55.02 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: which version are you running? the one with "Squeeze" written beside it? |
| 18:55.33 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, Arrowmaster ok i installed os-prober and its not added windows to the grub menu |
| 18:55.37 | ansolas | I just downloaded the netinstall iso di-beta2 |
| 18:55.54 | ansolas | basically i dont care about the version i just need cmake 2.6.2 or bigger |
| 18:56.00 | dclarke | I have a 64-bit Debian squeeze system. What do I need to make flash work such that something silly like YouTube functions ? |
| 18:56.07 | ansolas | i tried instaling it with lenny but it did not work |
| 18:56.35 | thewanderer1 | dclarke: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 18:56.51 | dclarke | ooh .. non free .. righy |
| 18:56.55 | ansolas | which is the right virtual box ? |
| 18:56.58 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: alright, now what version of VBox did you download for your squeeze system? |
| 18:57.04 | ansolas | i am reading here : http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Squeeze |
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| 18:57.30 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: yes, that's pretty much all you need |
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| 18:57.51 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: only remove your current install first, or Chaos will Rejoice |
| 18:57.53 | ansolas | and where to download the right vbox version ? |
| 18:58.00 | ansolas | ok |
| 18:58.02 | ansolas | i do |
| 18:58.03 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: didn't the wiki tell you? |
| 18:58.28 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, any thoughts on os-prober? |
| 18:58.30 | lenswipe | i cant get it working |
| 18:58.40 | lenswipe | asin i installed it and it hasnt done anything |
| 18:58.42 | ansolas | hm no , it just shows me where to apt get the packages |
| 18:58.50 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: what GRUB version? |
| 18:58.53 | lenswipe | 2 |
| 18:59.04 | dclarke | thewanderer1: Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate |
| 18:59.16 | thewanderer1 | ansolas: so that's what you need... install the package and software appears, right? |
| 18:59.25 | thewanderer1 | dclarke: yes, you need non-free repos for that... |
| 18:59.34 | thewanderer1 | (did you run apt-get update?) |
| 18:59.40 | lenswipe | dclarke, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 18:59.48 | ansolas | grr that virtual box version i installed do not have a uninstaller |
| 19:00.21 | ansolas | before i can install packages i need to get the virtual box installed ? no ? |
| 19:00.23 | yoshio | dclarke: do you have contrib in your sources.list |
| 19:00.32 | ansolas | i dont have linux |
| 19:00.41 | ansolas | i have windows |
| 19:00.41 | ansolas | :) |
| 19:00.45 | lenswipe | ansolas, /sympathy |
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| 19:01.14 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe, then run update-grub2 and it should detect Windows |
| 19:01.20 | lenswipe | ok |
| 19:01.28 | lenswipe2 | dclarke, http://pastebin.com/RJvYUAZ5 use that one |
| 19:01.32 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe, otherwise, add an entry manually... |
| 19:01.35 | dclarke | http://pastebin.com/XWpEQy5w |
| 19:01.36 | lenswipe | ok |
| 19:01.45 | ansolas | now i am confused |
| 19:02.01 | ansolas | is there a special virtual box from debian for windows ? |
| 19:02.22 | thewanderer1 | yeah... I would be confused if my Linux turned to be Windows and Darth Vader to be my father... |
| 19:02.24 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, it mentions finding linux kernels, but there is no mention of winodws |
| 19:02.40 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe, then add an entry manually... |
| 19:02.41 | yoshio | dclarke: add "contrib" after "main", flashplugin-nonfree is in contrib |
| 19:02.55 | dclarke | yoshio: thank you |
| 19:02.58 | ansolas | ;( |
| 19:02.59 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe, and how to do that, I have no bloody idea - you'll need to look around |
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| 19:03.32 | yoshio | weird, it seems contrib is not added by the squeeze installer to sources.list |
| 19:03.37 | ansolas | how do i install cmake 2.6.2 or bigger on lenny? |
| 19:03.43 | lenswipe | brb |
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| 19:03.59 | dclarke | yoshio: no no .. I specifially rememmber only asking for open and free software during install |
| 19:04.02 | thewanderer1 | !tell ansolas about ssb |
| 19:04.25 | dclarke | yoshio: do I add contrib on the security source lines also ? |
| 19:04.37 | ansolas | super i did that but it did not work that way |
| 19:04.39 | yoshio | dclarke: can't hurt |
| 19:04.53 | yoshio | !tell ansolas about ssb |
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| 19:05.38 | ansolas | that wont help even twice |
| 19:05.39 | ansolas | lol |
| 19:06.16 | dclarke | pardon me but what is iceweasel-flashgot ? |
| 19:08.24 | thewanderer1 | dclarke: a download manager that you don't need :P |
| 19:08.34 | thewanderer1 | (as if wget wasn't enough) |
| 19:08.40 | yoshio | dclarke, aptitude show xul-ext-flashgot |
| 19:08.49 | dclarke | wget is |
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| 19:09.19 | dclarke | pardon me ... must go check out new binutils |
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| 19:10.58 | thewanderer1 | I want a lean system imaging solution so that I can boot up 16 clients and pour Windows onto them. I already have a Debian server. if I boot many clients with netcat, and just broadcast an image that they will all read (nc -l -p 1234 >/dev/sda), will it work or are there any obstacles I'm not aware of? |
| 19:11.25 | dclarke | thewanderer1: dude |
| 19:11.36 | dclarke | thewanderer1: every heard of VMware ? |
| 19:11.45 | thewanderer1 | dclarke: yes, so what? |
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| 19:11.47 | dclarke | thewanderer1: okay .. let me help you here |
| 19:11.58 | dclarke | thewanderer1: first you need a lot of CPU resources to do that |
| 19:12.06 | thewanderer1 | to do what? |
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| 19:12.11 | dclarke | thewanderer1: so get a Proliant G7 with 24 cores at least |
| 19:12.25 | thewanderer1 | no, I really can't run Windows as a terminal server and the clients as RDP clients. |
| 19:12.32 | dclarke | thewanderer1: you said you want to boot 15 clients right ? |
| 19:12.32 | thewanderer1 | I already considered that, though... |
| 19:12.48 | thewanderer1 | yes... |
| 19:12.53 | thewanderer1 | but not as thin clients :P |
| 19:13.04 | dclarke | k .. so you need ( NEED ) a cpu core per user client or perf will suck |
| 19:13.14 | thewanderer1 | no, I need to clone 1 disk to 16 instances |
| 19:13.18 | dclarke | plus you need management over head .. thats more cores |
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| 19:13.33 | dclarke | *sige* |
| 19:13.35 | thewanderer1 | I don't need a terminal server, really :P |
| 19:13.39 | dclarke | k |
| 19:13.43 | dclarke | was trying to help |
| 19:13.46 | thewanderer1 | I know |
| 19:13.49 | dclarke | I failed terribly |
| 19:14.03 | thewanderer1 | I already tried that but you know what? Microsoft charges for licences... |
| 19:14.10 | dclarke | pricks |
| 19:14.47 | thewanderer1 | so actually I need to dd one image to 16 disks |
| 19:14.57 | dclarke | pardon the language but I was forced, beaten into testing Win 7 64-bit ultimate on this machine in front of me .. know what I did ? I ran it for thee months and then formmeted the disks and installed squeeze |
| 19:15.24 | thewanderer1 | I tried clonezilla with its drbl but it's insanely huge |
| 19:15.46 | dclarke | also I have VMware licenses so I can install VMware workstation 7 and then ibstall my win7 kit iunto that if I cared .. which I don't |
| 19:16.02 | dclarke | virtual box is good .. but slow |
| 19:16.15 | dclarke | a good copy of vmware helps |
| 19:16.15 | thewanderer1 | well, I wouldn't care, I've been using KVM since the very start |
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| 19:16.21 | dclarke | but .. that is just my opinion |
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| 19:16.34 | pallgone | thewanderer1: hmm, so you have one license and want to copy it onto 16 machines? |
| 19:16.54 | thewanderer1 | yes, it's called VLK or something |
| 19:16.58 | dclarke | yeah .. that won't work |
| 19:17.07 | thewanderer1 | I only need to change the hostnames afterwards I think |
| 19:17.23 | dclarke | thewanderer1: you don't really think that right ? |
| 19:17.48 | dclarke | the wanonce those clients get on the same local subnet and then the packets start flying you wil lget plenty of troubles |
| 19:18.19 | thewanderer1 | because of... Samba name collisions? |
| 19:18.54 | dclarke | because Microsoft isn't that .. obtuse |
| 19:18.56 | rob | apt question: if I do an apt-get source <packagename> and then run the configuration script in the source dir create (to set options etc), does doing apt-get build-dep <packagename> build with that source directory? |
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| 19:20.02 | thewanderer1 | rob: build-dep only installs the dependencies needed to build a package, it doesn't build anything for you |
| 19:20.39 | thewanderer1 | rob: nor will it automatically fetch additional libraries you might need to build with the enriched set of options you might have selected |
| 19:21.04 | h3sp4wn | They also may have changed e.g backporting from sid to lenny |
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| 19:21.09 | rob | so is there a way to customize the build? or should I resign to not having this package be tracked with apt |
| 19:21.25 | stew | rob: /msg dpkg debian/rules |
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| 19:24.39 | h3sp4wn | Any one remember the dpkg command to find out why foo is not in squeeze |
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| 19:25.31 | simonrvn | !why is foo not in testing |
| 19:25.31 | dpkg | foo is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=foo |
| 19:26.19 | simonrvn | h3sp4wn: ^^ |
| 19:26.39 | h3sp4wn | simonrvn: Thanks |
| 19:26.53 | simonrvn | yup |
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| 19:30.51 | rob | I can't really tell from any documentation if there a way to customize building the binary and (while keeping it tracked with apt -- otherwise I would build from source and not use apt) |
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| 19:32.08 | thewanderer1 | rob: apt and compiling by hand stand in opposition - you would usually Pin the package not to be updated automatically and then keep your eyes open for new versions and patch accordingly, then compile & install |
| 19:32.12 | thewanderer1 | we're not Gentoo after all |
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| 19:32.30 | rob | ok, makes sense |
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| 19:32.42 | h3sp4wn | Or increase the version number to something super high |
| 19:33.05 | thewanderer1 | sounds like a mad idea :P |
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| 19:33.45 | thewanderer1 | rob: usually the better solution is to send your patch upstream if you think it's something useful |
| 19:34.32 | yoshio | rob: make your changes to the source, do a diff, put a patch in debian/patches (assuming your using quilt), build a deb with debuild (version number same as before, but add a "~1" so that an official update with be higher), and install your deb |
| 19:34.32 | rob | well in my case all I want to do is install a module for nginx, and the only way to do this is to recomple nginx |
| 19:34.49 | h3sp4wn | which module ? |
| 19:34.56 | rob | http push |
| 19:36.02 | rob | http://pushmodule.slact.net/#install |
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| 19:36.57 | poisonbit | If i remember ok nginx in stable is 0.6 |
| 19:37.07 | poisonbit | reading that url |
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| 19:39.39 | Eggdrops | hello everyone. how can I limit the number of prossess for a user in debian for example user 1 will be able to run only 2 prossess liek eggdrop ? |
| 19:39.56 | thewanderer1 | Eggdrops: /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 19:40.01 | simonrvn | /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 19:40.07 | Eggdrops | thanks |
| 19:40.08 | poisonbit | thet is per sesion |
| 19:40.14 | rob | poisonbit: looks like 0.7.65 based on apt-get source |
| 19:40.36 | thewanderer1 | poisonbit: I wouldn't think that the per-user process limit is per-session... |
| 19:40.38 | poisonbit | nproc in /etc/security/limits.conf is limit by _session_ (not by user) |
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| 19:40.59 | thewanderer1 | are you sure? |
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| 19:41.17 | thewanderer1 | when I run 10 processes via SSH, I can't make a second connection afterwards with nproc set to 10... |
| 19:41.40 | thewanderer1 | (bash fails to spawn) |
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| 19:42.15 | poisonbit | " Also, please note that all limit settings are set per login. They are |
| 19:42.15 | poisonbit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.15 | poisonbit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.15 | poisonbit | " |
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| 19:42.49 | poisonbit | sotrry for flood |
| 19:42.58 | poisonbit | that was from man 5 limits.conf |
| 19:43.15 | poisonbit | thewanderer1, try launching 10 ssh session, and then 10 process in one sesion an then see the others |
| 19:43.23 | poisonbit | not sure anyway |
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| 19:43.52 | CyberDomovoy | i have a trouble with a nfs mount, when i ls /mnt/datacenter i get: "ls: cannot access /mnt/datacenter: Stale NFS file handle", closed any process that might use it, "umount -f" tells me "Device or ressource busy", tried to restart nfs on the server, still the same. What could i do? I'd like to avoid restart, imo restarting the os for a mount trouble is NOT normal |
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| 19:44.20 | poisonbit | lsof | grep /path |
| 19:44.24 | thewanderer1 | poisonbit: well, if it really is how you interpret it, then nproc + numlogins should do the magic :) |
| 19:45.10 | thewanderer1 | CyberDomovoy: umount -l should work better than umount -f in many cases |
| 19:45.44 | CyberDomovoy | thewanderer1: great! thx, didn't know yhis option |
| 19:46.00 | thewanderer1 | the manpage should tell you what it really does and all its consequences |
| 19:46.23 | yoshio | rob: maybe helpful - http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize |
| 19:46.42 | thewanderer1 | (I actually never got any benefit from using umount -f ... why is there an -f option which always fails? this is beyond me...) |
| 19:46.49 | bzaks1424 | thewanderer1: You make a strong assumption that we actually read ;-) |
| 19:47.19 | thewanderer1 | bzaks1424: now, you did read my previous message, which renders my assumption as well-grounded :P |
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| 19:47.39 | bzaks1424 | Thewanderer1: uh.... LOOK OVER THERE ITS THE COPS! RUN! |
| 19:47.54 | bzaks1424 | *runs as fast as he can the other way* |
| 19:48.07 | thewanderer1 | you meant the CAPS... |
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| 19:48.21 | bzaks1424 | http://instantrimshot.com |
| 19:49.55 | thewanderer1 | hey, Chromium-browser presents small thumbnail images of websites (like previews) on start. how can I obtain those outside of the browser? |
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| 19:51.01 | bzaks1424 | So - I'm trying to set up a really *really* lightweight gig so I can run VMs ontop. However - I'm not super up to it on the setting up X and getting everything customized (like wireless). Does anyone have a great X resource that will walk me through things like setting up the ability to shut off stupid stuff like "tap to click" through my xorg.conf ? |
| 19:51.23 | bzaks1424 | Its like I want an esxi host - but with X |
| 19:51.25 | abrotman | why does a vm server need X? |
| 19:51.34 | bzaks1424 | Its not a VM server - per se |
| 19:51.49 | bzaks1424 | I want to set up a means to dual, triple, quadruple, etc... boot |
| 19:51.56 | bzaks1424 | and just set up hot keys to flip between VMs |
| 19:53.00 | thewanderer1 | bzaks1424: just run KVM on many ttys and switch between that |
| 19:53.38 | thewanderer1 | I once had Ubuntu running and it used something like `nodm` or `rungetty` or sth to run VirtualBox on tty8 while on tty7 I had the host system's gdm |
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| 19:54.03 | poisonbit | the same is explained in the debian refeence if i don't remember bad |
| 19:54.05 | bzaks1424 | Thewanderer: yes - but my key point is to reduce my overall footprint (I think without vmware workstation running I'm down to 130 MB of RAM) |
| 19:54.07 | poisonbit | maybe outdated |
| 19:54.44 | thewanderer1 | bzaks1424: if you want low overhead, then run Xen, not Linux |
| 19:55.14 | bzaks1424 | thewanderer1: I would - except paravirtualization is icky |
| 19:55.42 | thewanderer1 | bzaks1424: Xen now does full virt with VT/SVM |
| 19:55.56 | h3sp4wn | It also has a client version now |
| 19:56.12 | thewanderer1 | I have no idea about what "client" you are talking about |
| 19:56.25 | thewanderer1 | Xen is a hypervisor :P |
| 19:56.28 | h3sp4wn | XCL or whatever its called |
| 19:56.43 | thewanderer1 | nah, it's just some Citrix crap |
| 19:56.51 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, im still hacking away with grub |
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| 19:57.05 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, i need to specify the location of my winshit partition |
| 19:57.07 | lenswipe | how do i get that? |
| 19:57.18 | h3sp4wn | http://www.xen.org/products/xci.html |
| 19:57.24 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: hm... run os-prober |
| 19:57.47 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, i just got a fuckton of errors |
| 19:58.13 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: good, read through them |
| 19:58.14 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, ill pastebin... |
| 19:58.55 | thewanderer1 | h3sp4wn: oh, this... I didn't think that laptops which can't afford several hundred MB of memory for a hypervisor are capable of actually running VMs :P |
| 19:59.08 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, ....seemingly its not doing it now |
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| 19:59.59 | bzaks1424 | Thewanderer1: I'm actually running a VM right now. My goal was to learn debian + set up my virtualized environment this way |
| 20:00.00 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, yeap, its not working |
| 20:00.17 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, its os-prober supposed to auto configure grub for me, or just give me the info to do it myself? |
| 20:00.25 | h3sp4wn | thewanderer1: It optimized differently (should be able to get bios's with it eventually) |
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| 20:01.54 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: I think it only displays stuff |
| 20:02.06 | Arrowmaster | i thought it did it automatically |
| 20:02.07 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, okay, so it told me that windows xp pro is on /dev/sda2 |
| 20:02.24 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, how does that convert into: "root (hd0,1)" |
| 20:02.42 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: via /boot/grub/device.map of course :P |
| 20:02.46 | lenswipe | ? |
| 20:02.58 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: yes, the mappings are in that file |
| 20:03.06 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: you should now configure GRUB properly |
| 20:03.17 | lenswipe | i cant |
| 20:03.26 | lenswipe | i just have (hd0) /dev/sda |
| 20:03.33 | lenswipe | not very useful |
| 20:03.53 | thewanderer1 | it means that /dev/sda is (hd0,1) |
| 20:03.58 | bzaks1424 | lenswipe: you know that hd0 is /dev/sda |
| 20:03.58 | thewanderer1 | /dev/sda1 I meant |
| 20:04.07 | lenswipe | bzaks1424, i knew that anyway |
| 20:04.20 | bzaks1424 | you know that hd0, 0 is hard drive 0, partition 0 |
| 20:04.34 | bzaks1424 | so that means /dev/sda1 (why they start from 1???) is partition 0 |
| 20:04.37 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, so in that case /dev/sda2 should be (hd0,3) correct? |
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| 20:04.59 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: no, (hd0,2) |
| 20:05.02 | bzaks1424 | lenswipe: incorrect- hd0,2 is /dev/sda2 |
| 20:05.02 | lenswipe | ok |
| 20:05.16 | lenswipe | ok |
| 20:05.22 | lenswipe | lets see... |
| 20:05.30 | lenswipe | *rebooting* |
| 20:06.07 | lenswipe | ive got to say im pretty sure bootcamp dont give u thi shit |
| 20:06.21 | lenswipe | but then it probly ha its own prob....OH FOR FUCKS SAKE! |
| 20:06.31 | lenswipe | "Error 12: Invalid Device specified" |
| 20:06.35 | lenswipe | requested* |
| 20:06.55 | lenswipe | Booting 'Windows xp professional' |
| 20:06.58 | abrotman | !enter |
| 20:06.59 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 20:07.11 | lenswipe | throws abrotman out of the window |
| 20:07.52 | abrotman | lenswipe: stop using the enter key to replace your spacebar |
| 20:08.18 | lenswipe | abrotman, ok, how are you still talking? i threw you out of the window?! |
| 20:08.33 | abrotman | keep it up |
| 20:08.35 | phik | thanks dpkg! |
| 20:08.37 | lenswipe | :p |
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| 20:09.57 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, it didnt work - shall i try hd0,3 ? |
| 20:10.23 | thewanderer1 | no, you shall refer to GRUB manual to see how it numbers devices :P |
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| 20:10.49 | bzaks1424 | Hahahahaha - Grub is a bit of a small nightmare :-) |
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| 20:11.23 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, im busy reading the manual |
| 20:11.30 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, it might as well be in german |
| 20:11.47 | thewanderer1 | (apropos GRUB being a nightmare... http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/WTF/giant-grub.jpg ) |
| 20:11.51 | bzaks1424 | Is there a way in IRC to hide the "joined/left" messages? |
| 20:12.04 | thewanderer1 | bzaks1424: depends only on your client :P |
| 20:12.10 | bzaks1424 | thewanderer1: and there went my lunch :-D |
| 20:12.11 | lenswipe | bzaks1424, the worst thing about grub is that you have to reboot everytime to test it >:{ |
| 20:12.36 | bzaks1424 | lenswipe - if I may: you should build a VM akin to your desktop/laptop |
| 20:12.39 | bzaks1424 | and test your changes much quicker there |
| 20:12.51 | lenswipe | bzaks1424, hmmm |
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| 20:13.15 | bzaks1424 | lenswipe: now you may start to see why I want to run my laptop as a hypervisor |
| 20:13.17 | h3sp4wn | bzaks1424: try /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS (or switch to irssi) |
| 20:13.27 | lenswipe | hmm |
| 20:13.35 | abrotman | bzaks1424: what is your IRC client ? |
| 20:14.01 | bzaks1424 | h3sp4wn: thank you! abrotman: I'm running the webchat because pidgin doesn't support a sasl connection to freenode |
| 20:14.18 | abrotman | ignores the SASL bit |
| 20:14.57 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: que? |
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| 20:23.00 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, "File system type unknown, partition type 0x5 make active Error 12: Invalid device requested" |
| 20:23.06 | lenswipe | O____________________________________O |
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| 20:23.27 | lenswipe | that might as well have been in arabic for all the sense it makes to me |
| 20:24.00 | thewanderer1 | lenswipe: perhaps it really does not exist? |
| 20:24.03 | thewanderer1 | tried hd0,1? |
| 20:24.11 | thewanderer1 | or hd0,2... |
| 20:24.31 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, yes :'( |
| 20:24.34 | thewanderer1 | look, you can just press `c` during GRUB screen and list the devices yourself |
| 20:24.39 | lenswipe | orly? |
| 20:24.49 | lenswipe | oh i have a grub shell |
| 20:24.51 | lenswipe | what now |
| 20:25.13 | thewanderer1 | it's like bash - use your imagination and Tab key :P |
| 20:25.19 | lenswipe | i am doing |
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| 20:25.25 | lenswipe | i just imagined myself into a reboot |
| 20:26.03 | thewanderer1 | see, you are exercising your mind powers against a bootloader :P |
| 20:26.13 | jhutchins | Is that poor kid still at it? |
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| 20:27.27 | lenswipe | indeed |
| 20:27.32 | lenswipe | jhutchins, in a manner of speaking |
| 20:27.47 | lenswipe | thewanderer1, apart from that the commands the grub bootloader is giving me arent working |
| 20:27.59 | lenswipe | it gives an "Error 27: Unrecognised command" error |
| 20:28.21 | thewanderer1 | you could at lest try ls or so |
| 20:28.36 | thewanderer1 | or "root (hd0,<TAB>" |
| 20:28.36 | lenswipe | ok |
| 20:29.09 | lenswipe | the tab just gives me another prompt with root(hd0, filled in |
| 20:29.31 | lenswipe | and trying root(hd0,2) just gives me unrecognised command |
| 20:29.43 | thewanderer1 | root (hd0, |
| 20:29.46 | thewanderer1 | notice the space |
| 20:29.50 | lenswipe | yes |
| 20:30.04 | lenswipe | ah |
| 20:30.16 | lenswipe | i have partition0 filesystem type is extfs |
| 20:30.32 | lenswipe | partion num1: filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 |
| 20:30.45 | lenswipe | partion num4: filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82 |
| 20:30.53 | thewanderer1 | see, that's your answer :P |
| 20:31.08 | thewanderer1 | 0x82 is swap, by the way |
| 20:31.23 | lenswipe | i dont have any answer |
| 20:31.30 | lenswipe | i still have no idea what i need to do? |
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| 20:32.23 | jhutchins | Do you have the box the computer came in? |
| 20:32.39 | lenswipe | jhutchins, yes, why |
| 20:32.51 | lenswipe | jhutchins, well, i have the box the case came in somewhere |
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| 20:34.26 | lenswipe | aha |
| 20:34.29 | lenswipe | im into windows |
| 20:34.35 | lenswipe | never have i been so glad to see a windows logo |
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| 20:34.57 | lenswipe | bugger me, that took long enough O_O |
| 20:35.03 | lenswipe | 2 fucking days! |
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| 20:36.26 | bzaks1424 | Sorry - I can't get my wifi to work on my machine (debian -lenny running intel 5100 agn) - i can scan using iwconfig |
| 20:36.34 | bzaks1424 | but I can't bind to anything |
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| 20:36.42 | thewanderer1 | bzaks1424: got firmware? |
| 20:37.40 | bzaks1424 | thewanderer1: I think so. I went through all the wikis yesterday |
| 20:37.51 | bzaks1424 | besides - how could I scan without the firmware? |
| 20:38.01 | thewanderer1 | you could, believe me :) |
| 20:38.14 | thewanderer1 | bzaks1424: oh. and did you notice that lenny's firmware-iwlwifi does not contain drivers for intel 5100? :P |
| 20:38.19 | abrotman | bzaks1424: which kernel ? |
| 20:38.41 | abrotman | judd: versions firmware-iwlagn |
| 20:38.44 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'firmware-iwlagn' was found in i386. |
| 20:38.47 | abrotman | judd: versions firmware-iwlwifi |
| 20:38.48 | judd | Package firmware-iwlwifi on i386 -- etch/non-free: 0.4+etchnhalf.1; etch-backports/non-free: 0.13~bpo40+1; lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny2; lenny-backports/non-free: 0.24~bpo50+1; sid/non-free: 0.27; squeeze/non-free: 0.27 |
| 20:38.50 | abrotman | whatever they call it now |
| 20:39.05 | bzaks1424 | 2.6.32.-bpo.5-amd64 |
| 20:39.17 | lenswipe | bzaks1424, :O me too! |
| 20:39.28 | abrotman | bzaks1424: and which version of firmware-iwlwifi ? |
| 20:39.30 | bzaks1424 | thewanderer1: *facepalm* |
| 20:39.35 | t3a | Couldn't execute command: xscreensaver-command -lock |
| 20:39.35 | t3a | Verify that this is a valid command. |
| 20:40.46 | thewanderer1 | bzaks1424: does that mean you've installed a backports kernel but not backports firmware-iwlwifi? :P |
| 20:41.18 | bzaks1424 | thewanderer1: this is a VERY distinct possibility, |
| 20:41.40 | thewanderer1 | t3a: I can vaguely remember having called it myself... but you need xscreensaver package for it to work you know :P |
| 20:43.29 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: 0.24~bpo50+1 |
| 20:43.39 | kj4 | when will the next debian be squeezed out? |
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| 20:43.52 | abrotman | bzaks1424: shuld work then |
| 20:44.54 | thewanderer1 | another thing is how one is trying to connect - what frontend they use... |
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| 20:46.16 | bzaks1424 | thewanderer1: wicd |
| 20:46.47 | t3a | thewanderer1, it still doesnt run |
| 20:46.50 | masterkorp | hello, i think my network card is not working, i can't get a auto ip or static one, what do you suggest to check the network card status ? |
| 20:47.16 | thewanderer1 | t3a: xscreen<TAB> and observe... |
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| 20:47.21 | bzaks1424 | masterkorp: ifconfig - does it exist? |
| 20:47.44 | masterkorp | bzaks1424: yes, the interface "eth0" is up |
| 20:47.50 | t3a | xscreen? |
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| 20:48.06 | thewanderer1 | let bash show you similar names |
| 20:48.11 | bzaks1424 | masterkorp: how are you configuring your interface? |
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| 20:48.37 | masterkorp | i am just using dhcclient right now |
| 20:49.13 | bzaks1424 | masterkorp: is there a DHCP server on your network? :-D |
| 20:49.14 | masterkorp | but i tried give it a static ip, and using a dhcp and static in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:49.30 | masterkorp | bzaks1424: yes xD, i am using for this computer |
| 20:49.33 | bzaks1424 | masterkorp: what happened when you gave it a static? |
| 20:49.57 | masterkorp | it just gave that ip, but i have to connection |
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| 20:50.41 | thewanderer1 | no connection with what? :P |
| 20:51.01 | masterkorp | thewanderer1: ping google :) |
| 20:51.06 | masterkorp | !ping |
| 20:51.06 | dpkg | Yes, masterkorp you are either online or you are not... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000326 |
| 20:51.29 | bzaks1424 | masterkorp: lets stick with DHCP for now. |
| 20:51.50 | bzaks1424 | masterkorp: so when you do a dhclient on eth0 - what happens? |
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| 20:52.27 | masterkorp | it says that no dhcpoffers received |
| 20:52.46 | bzaks1424 | masterkorp: have you checked the cable? |
| 20:53.05 | bzaks1424 | A bad cable can cause all sorts of weirdness |
| 20:53.48 | masterkorp | yes, i tried two diferent cables ( i even make a crossover cable sisnce this computer is a little old and is network card doesn't make the conversion, and i didn't if my router does that) |
| 20:55.02 | masterkorp | *and the network card |
| 20:55.18 | bzaks1424 | Hrmm... Have you tried a live CD? Just to see if its the OS? |
| 20:55.51 | masterkorp | actualy i didn't |
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| 20:56.45 | laurus | Is there a way to manually run .xprofile without restarting GNOME? |
| 20:56.46 | bzaks1424 | masterkorp: Its worth a try. Especially if the router and the nic's lights are lit |
| 20:57.05 | bzaks1424 | laurus: dot it in |
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| 20:58.10 | masterkorp | bzaks1424: i am gona try with archlinux |
| 20:58.36 | laurus | Thanks bzaks1424 |
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| 21:01.24 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: do you know of any trouble shooting wikis or anything I can use? I'm kind of stuck on this wireless thing |
| 21:01.40 | abrotman | bzaks1424: did you look through dmesg yet? |
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| 21:02.10 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: tail if while I bring the interface up and down? |
| 21:02.23 | bzaks1424 | tail it* |
| 21:02.30 | abrotman | the whole thing |
| 21:02.37 | abrotman | does the interface exist? |
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| 21:03.14 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: the interface does indeed exist. I can even request a dhclient on it. Where I fail is when I set the essid |
| 21:03.26 | bzaks1424 | I then cannot dhcp on that network |
| 21:03.30 | abrotman | bzaks1424: with which wifi client ? |
| 21:03.37 | abrotman | manual in interfaces? or with wicd/n-m ? |
| 21:03.55 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: I'd rather do it manually in the interfaces |
| 21:04.04 | abrotman | okay .. is the wireless-tools package installed ? |
| 21:04.13 | abrotman | or whtaever it's called |
| 21:04.23 | abrotman | yeah, wireless-tools |
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| 21:04.44 | bzaks1424 | abrotman - yes. But its not from backports - will that be a problem if it doesn't match my kernel/firmware ? |
| 21:04.57 | abrotman | doubtful |
| 21:05.28 | k[t | abrotman: say my laptop froze , or just got stuck and a cold boot is required: on the next boot, <some_program> warns the superblock of the unclean mount and forces fsck,e2fsck to check the file system: where can i find this script,process or program? |
| 21:05.57 | abrotman | you don't want it to fsck ? |
| 21:06.30 | k[t | i want to <continue> after fsck because for some reason, a force reboot is processed.. |
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| 21:06.50 | k[t | s/fsck/fsck completes/ or just stop fsck all together... |
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| 21:07.09 | k[t | abrotman: so yes, to stop fsck.. |
| 21:07.55 | k[t | i just read tune2fs and no... not what i want. and no options/documentation pointing towards anything in man e2fsck: i should probably also dig around /etc eh? |
| 21:07.57 | abrotman | you hsould let it fsck |
| 21:08.13 | k[t | is feeling daring... |
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| 21:08.30 | k[t | **feels daring.. |
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| 21:10.01 | jhutchins | k[t: Be dring. Let it finish the fsck. |
| 21:10.12 | jhutchins | k[t: In fact, repeat the fsck until it does nothing. |
| 21:10.30 | jhutchins | k[t: Also, price replacement hard drives. |
| 21:10.35 | abrotman | why? |
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| 21:10.44 | abrotman | the laptop froze .. he didn't say the HDD was faulty |
| 21:10.50 | parabola | Does debian have softraid support in the installer? |
| 21:11.02 | k[t | i honor all inputs/cautions but, my laptop boot is like 4 minutes... |
| 21:11.41 | k[t | that's about 10 minutes i spend on booting (even with resume device) |
| 21:12.04 | acemi | parabola: yes |
| 21:13.21 | macrobat | why does the laptop freeze in the first place? |
| 21:13.24 | k[t | i don't know the exact cause but i've come to notice that the freeze comes when vt switching after hibernate: but pm-hibernate --quirk-s3-bios seems to correct that, oh -- and my little script switches to open VT2 before hibernate to ensure that <hibernate> resumes correctly. |
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| 21:14.47 | k[t | inittab grep -R fsck /etc |
| 21:15.10 | macrobat | so it would be faster to just shut-down-and-boot instead of hibernate-resume? |
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| 21:16.07 | k[t | depends on how long the post-boot process`ll take ya... |
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| 21:16.29 | k[t | for me, resuming is just better... |
| 21:16.40 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: hey! I got it! |
| 21:17.05 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: watching dmesg saved my back end! Thanks abrotman! |
| 21:17.17 | abrotman | enjoy |
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| 21:18.13 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: my goal is to pass it on to others who can benefit from my knowledge now |
| 21:19.20 | k[t | abrotman: i'm beginning to feel that you will not support my request.. |
| 21:19.53 | abrotman | k[t: fsck the filesystem .. it's telling oyu it might be dirty .. using a dirty filesystem is dangerous |
| 21:20.11 | abrotman | it would have been done with the fsck by now if oyu had just let it happen |
| 21:20.35 | jhutchins | k[t: In fact, it's already found a bad superblock, which means it NEEDS to check the filesystem or it may become unusable. |
| 21:21.02 | jhutchins | k[t: That's a fairly serious error. |
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| 21:21.40 | k[t | well i'll take your and abrotman's word... |
| 21:22.20 | k[t | so then, are there any packages i can use to speed up the boot process or will i just have to configure a minimalistic system from sources?? -- though, that isn't too fun.. =\ |
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| 21:24.19 | macrobat | k[t: here is a (probably unrelated) fsck article http://lwn.net/Articles/248180/ |
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| 21:24.50 | k[t | checking it now.. |
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| 21:25.21 | bzaks1424 | k[t I would get that FS cleaned up before worrying about speeding up the boot process |
| 21:25.51 | macrobat | fsck on ext4 is supposed to be faster. you would want a newish kernel for that |
| 21:26.43 | k[t | so just tune2fs a ext4, i am running 2.6-36-rc3 |
| 21:26.55 | k[t | s/a/an*/ |
| 21:27.18 | bzaks1424 | Why doesn't debian lenny support ext4 on the install? |
| 21:27.53 | abrotman | bzaks1424: the kernel lenny has had developmental support for ext4 .. not ready for prime time |
| 21:28.08 | macrobat | k[t: i suppose, i think not all ext4 features are availiable when you convert from ext3 |
| 21:28.17 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: then why did Ubuntu put it in already? |
| 21:28.25 | bzaks1424 | (I hope I didn't just swear) |
| 21:28.35 | k[t | i'll read on it then.. |
| 21:28.36 | abrotman | Ubuntu is not Debian .. ask them |
| 21:28.39 | macrobat | does debian grub1 boot ext4? |
| 21:28.53 | abrotman | macrobat: doubtful .. grub1 is dead upstream anyway |
| 21:29.36 | macrobat | yes, is legacy grub patched by debian? |
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| 21:31.51 | abrotman | it has a changelog |
| 21:32.02 | LeetDog1337 | hmm guys, i installed mysql and phpmyadmin, why do i get #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES), i put in the right password :/ |
| 21:33.51 | acemi | LeetDog1337: can you connect to mysql from commandline? mysql -u root -p |
| 21:34.49 | LeetDog1337 | yeah |
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| 21:36.36 | acemi | IIRC there is some issue in some scripts related with password format. see oldpassword http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/old-client.html |
| 21:37.39 | k[t | or i should just move to ext3 |
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| 21:40.31 | hid3 | Good evening everyone. My dmesg got some rubbish messages in the end of it. Is there a command to insert a specific message in dmesg so I would see if those crappy messages return? |
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| 21:40.38 | hid3 | BTW, I do NOT want to use dmesg -c |
| 21:41.01 | joelmob | linux noob question: how do i move a directory from root to a user |
| 21:41.22 | valdyn | joelmob: man chown |
| 21:41.33 | yagoo | hid3, that's not even a problem.. it's an aesthetic |
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| 21:42.15 | valdyn | hid3: why would you modify the kernel message ring buffer? |
| 21:42.23 | valdyn | hid3: thats silly |
| 21:42.25 | joelmob | valdyn: i would like to move the whole directory to another catalogue |
| 21:42.36 | joelmob | i know its mv, something but im really unsure |
| 21:42.42 | valdyn | joelmob: whats a catalogue supposed to be? |
| 21:42.49 | k[t | hmm: then it seems that i am only looking for magic sysreq for the laptop to properly reboot... |
| 21:42.50 | yagoo | joelmob, be the same user that owns that directory and then use chown later |
| 21:43.29 | yagoo | k[t, if its compiled in.. there's a wikipedia page summarizing the shortkeys |
| 21:43.46 | hid3 | some messages in dmesg are silly there too! |
| 21:43.48 | joelmob | valdyn: in the home catalogue of another user |
| 21:43.50 | yagoo | (if magic sysreskey is compiled in kernel) |
| 21:43.53 | valdyn | joelmob: you should read about permissions in general, then apply that general knowledge, this is not a good place to explain this properly |
| 21:44.05 | valdyn | !wikifaq joelmob Permissions |
| 21:44.06 | dpkg | joelmob: check out http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://wiki.debian.org/ |
| 21:44.16 | k[t | i'll grep the .config now. |
| 21:44.32 | valdyn | joelmob: theres no catalogue, maybe you mean directory |
| 21:44.39 | yagoo | lol |
| 21:44.52 | yagoo | says CATALOG under appleII[] |
| 21:45.04 | valdyn | interesting |
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| 21:45.18 | valdyn | drawers on amiga, folders on windows? |
| 21:45.25 | valdyn | its still just directories ! |
| 21:45.57 | valdyn | segments on multics? |
| 21:45.57 | yagoo | valdyn, when one starts using un-conventional terms you know never even bothered to read 1 page of online help |
| 21:46.45 | valdyn | yagoo: he could have read them in a non-english language |
| 21:46.51 | yagoo | so *nix conventionals use pretty much the same terminology.. i doubt he even googled about chown, mv |
| 21:47.13 | yagoo | yeah that's true too |
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| 21:50.21 | peterrooney | when running apitude from command line, what are the meanings of the items in between braces following the package names? |
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| 21:51.39 | joelmob | in swedish directory = katalog |
| 21:51.43 | Bushmills | "from command line" as compared to what? |
| 21:52.07 | peterrooney | as compared to running in curses form |
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| 21:52.33 | Bushmills | i doubt that the meanings change, depending on starting method |
| 21:52.49 | Bushmills | i'd say "same as with curses" |
| 21:54.40 | peterrooney | Bushmills, they aren't there when running aptitude without arguments and marking packages for install/remove |
| 21:55.18 | Bushmills | ah. but it's not bash, taking them away. maybe it is because the program you mentioned shows a different user interface? |
| 21:55.49 | Bushmills | bash is rather agnostic of contents, displayed by programs |
| 21:56.00 | Bushmills | ehm |
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| 21:56.07 | peterrooney | OK, maybe I'm not explaining this right. aptitude install <foo> yeilds ... START |
| 21:56.09 | Bushmills | i think i'm on the wrong channel :) |
| 21:56.10 | peterrooney | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 21:56.20 | Bushmills | sry |
| 21:56.22 | peterrooney | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.25 | peterrooney | END |
| 21:56.43 | peterrooney | sometimes there's two letters between the braces. |
| 21:57.48 | Bushmills | auto installed |
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| 21:58.33 | Bushmills | i.e. not explicitely selected, but installed to either resolve a dependency, or because installation of suggested packages was enabled |
| 21:58.48 | peterrooney | Bushmills, where are the codes listed? |
| 21:58.57 | simonrvn | s,tel,tl, |
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| 21:59.04 | Bushmills | no idea. in the aptitude docs, i suppose |
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| 22:01.11 | peterrooney | Bushmills: fair enough, but it's not obviously in the man pages for aptitude, dpkg, or apt-get. Hence my hopeful query here. |
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| 22:01.43 | Bushmills | i'd check out aptitude-doc-en |
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| 22:21.02 | queso | I'm installing debian squeeze on my new dell laptop. It says some of my hardware needs non-free firmware to operate. Where do I get it, and, if I don't install it now, is it easy to install after the OS install is complete? |
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| 22:22.46 | abrotman | you can do it later if you have a wired connection |
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| 22:23.09 | kspath | abrotman abrotmoo |
| 22:23.17 | abrotman | hiya kspath |
| 22:23.17 | kspath | hides |
| 22:24.22 | queso | abrotman: oh, stink. yeah, I'm not going to burn this on a CD. how do I do it later? can I get it via apt? |
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| 22:24.52 | abrotman | queso: do you have a wired connection? you enable contrib and non-free in your sources.list and get the stuff you need |
| 22:25.05 | SimManiac | queso: you can add non-free to your sources and then aptitude search firmware |
| 22:25.09 | SimManiac | and see if the bell rings |
| 22:25.39 | SimManiac | in fact, you *always* should have main contrib non-free in your sources.list |
| 22:25.40 | SimManiac | :P |
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| 22:25.58 | yoshio | abrotman, is contrib no longer default in squeeze? |
| 22:26.03 | queso | I will have to hook up the wired after I do the install |
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| 22:26.13 | abrotman | yoshio: it never was |
| 22:26.30 | abrotman | SimManiac: no, you should not *always* have it enabled |
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| 22:26.46 | SimManiac | abrotman: it was kind of joke |
| 22:27.04 | SimManiac | but anyway I'd recommend it if you want to have a full featured system |
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| 22:27.23 | abrotman | if you don't need anything from there, don't enable them |
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| 22:31.58 | queso | Should I be using ext3 or ext4? |
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| 22:36.45 | Bushmills | ext2 for flash devices |
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| 22:37.02 | abrotman | queso: it's really up to you .. ext3 is the default though |
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| 22:37.58 | queso | According to http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4, Squeeze is aiming to use ext4 as default |
| 22:38.40 | abrotman | i don't think it is yet .. last i tried it was still ext3 .. it's really up to you though |
| 22:38.55 | queso | k |
| 22:39.04 | abrotman | if you trust ext4, go for it |
| 22:39.30 | queso | I'll take the plunge, I've been using it in my other distro |
| 22:39.57 | maxxe | i already got ext3, im not gonna repartition my harddrive for use of ext4 when squeeze comes out :P |
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| 22:42.13 | abrotman | dpkg: ext3->ext4 |
| 22:42.14 | dpkg | To enable <ext4> features on an existing unmounted <ext3> file system (Linux 2.6.28 or later required): 'tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/hda1' (where hda1 is the partition containing the ext3 file system), then 'e2fsck -fD /dev/hda1' to fix modified on-disk structures. Don't forget to modify /etc/fstab and specify ext4 for the file system. Some ext4 features (e.g. flex_bg) can only be enabled during format via mke2fs. |
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| 22:43.46 | maxxe | aha okay so it's possible to upgrade to ext4.. then i might do it.. but only if i find it safe :) |
| 22:43.50 | Bushmills | "The principal developer of the ext3 and ext4 file systems, Theodore Ts'o, has stated thatext4 is a stop-gap and that Btrfs is the way forward" |
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| 22:48.47 | kspath | xfs is decent |
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| 22:51.34 | mooglefrange | Hi. Does anyone know of a "personal database" program with a good command line interface? Like "yojimbo" for the mac. |
| 22:51.40 | jhutchins_lt | Is there a command to show packages that have been recommended but not installed, and possibly install them? |
| 22:51.44 | jhutchins_lt | mooglefrange: mysql |
| 22:52.04 | mooglefrange | jhutchins_lt: lol :-) |
| 22:52.51 | jhutchins_lt | Why is that humorous? |
| 22:52.55 | queso | mooglefrange: sqlite |
| 22:53.47 | queso | mooglefrange: I'd recommend postgresql because I the most experience with it, and it has a great cli, but I don't know if the adjective "personal" is appropriate for it. |
| 22:53.52 | mooglefrange | jhutchins_lt: I'm sorry I guess I was unclear: "personal database" software as in: allows me to tag & search my files and other pieces of content. |
| 22:54.03 | Bushmills | braces for somebody to say "oracle" |
| 22:54.11 | mooglefrange | I don't mean a database for a website. |
| 22:54.18 | mooglefrange | Or to back an application or something. |
| 22:54.57 | jhutchins_lt | Right, general purpose database with a good command-line interface. |
| 22:55.02 | queso | Bushmills: wait, when you say "mysql", isn't that at least in some way similar to saying "oracle" now? |
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| 22:56.05 | abrotman | mooglefrange: might help if you elaborate about what yojimbo is |
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| 22:56.58 | Bushmills | just heard queso mention "oracle" |
| 22:57.04 | mooglefrange | It can import and search notes, music, images, bookmarks, documents, etc, and allows you to tag and view them by when imported and various other views. |
| 22:57.28 | mooglefrange | And acts as a browser/organizer for those things. |
| 22:57.32 | abrotman | sounds like some sort of advanced file manager |
| 22:57.39 | mooglefrange | Yeah, basically. |
| 22:57.50 | jhutchins_lt | You could no doubt do that with mysql - in fact, that's essentially what a CMS does with it, but it's not pre-templated for that purpose. |
| 22:57.51 | mooglefrange | I'm sure it's *backed* by sql, or some kind of tuple store. |
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| 22:58.12 | mooglefrange | I just don't want to have to roll my own templates, import mechanisms, etc. |
| 22:59.26 | mooglefrange | Anyway, my friends with macs all love it, and it seems pretty sweet for organizing things, but I don't like the interface very much. So I'd like something that does that, but with an ncurses or filesystem based interface. |
| 22:59.39 | bzaks1424 | Is there a better way for me to enable 3d acceleration that doesn't involve me recompiling the kernel? |
| 23:00.01 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 23:00.05 | abrotman | why the hell are you doing that? |
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| 23:00.19 | abrotman | mooglefrange: apt-cache search metadata .. i'd guess .. look through the descriptoins |
| 23:00.27 | abrotman | bzaks1424: why would you think you have to do that? |
| 23:00.46 | bzaks1424 | http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/01/13/howto-enable-3d-acceleration-in-debian-lenny/ |
| 23:00.54 | abrotman | for which video card? |
| 23:00.55 | bzaks1424 | oops - wrong article |
| 23:01.07 | abrotman | it doesn't matter, it's likely wrong, whatever you're reading |
| 23:01.35 | jhutchins_lt | More of a PIM then, database backend by function only. |
| 23:01.43 | jhutchins_lt | mooglefrange: http://alternativeto.net/software/yojimbo/?platform=linux |
| 23:02.19 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: I'm using whatever is in my e6400 - so the intel chipset |
| 23:02.30 | abrotman | you definitely don't have to recompile then |
| 23:02.30 | jhutchins_lt | Norton had something like that back in the 90's. |
| 23:02.33 | abrotman | lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 23:03.37 | abrotman | for intel you should't have to recompile your kernel |
| 23:03.42 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions tomboy |
| 23:03.43 | judd | Package tomboy on i386 -- etch: 0.4.1-2; lenny: 0.10.2-1; sid: 1.2.2-2; squeeze: 1.2.2-2; experimental: 1.5.2-1 |
| 23:03.50 | mooglefrange | jhutchins_lt: I'll look through those, thanks |
| 23:03.59 | bzaks1424 | Intel Mobile 4 chipset |
| 23:04.08 | bzaks1424 | as I vaguely remembered from my scouring on Friday |
| 23:04.23 | abrotman | judd: versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 23:04.25 | judd | Package xserver-xorg-video-intel on i386 -- etch: 2:2.2.1-1~etchnhalf2; lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny8; squeeze: 2:2.13.0-2; sid: 2:2.13.0-4; experimental: 2:2.13.901-2 |
| 23:04.39 | abrotman | bzaks1424: you may have to go ot squeeze, instead of lenny ... |
| 23:04.47 | abrotman | what is the PCI ID on that device ? |
| 23:04.51 | bzaks1424 | I only know that 3d acceleration isn't enabled because VMware workstations complains when I load a VM |
| 23:05.01 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: what's squeeze? |
| 23:05.14 | abrotman | !tell bzaks1424 about lenny-.squeeze |
| 23:05.20 | abrotman | !tell bzaks1424 about lenny->squeeze |
| 23:05.26 | abrotman | though i'm not sure vmware works on squeeze |
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| 23:06.36 | bzaks1424 | abrotman: I will look into squeeze more later |
| 23:06.36 | yagoo | is squeeze still set for the month? |
| 23:06.38 | yagoo | lol |
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| 23:07.10 | abrotman | there is no timeline .. just be patient or help .. don't pretend you know when it will be released |
| 23:08.56 | acemi | 14 feb will be nice |
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| 23:13.44 | fantasticulous | hi my console is f'ed up when i do CTRL+ALT+F1 from X. it's all offset to the right and almost bottom of the screen so i can only see the top 3 lines of text |
| 23:13.52 | fantasticulous | it's in graphics mode, not text mode |
| 23:13.55 | fantasticulous | any idea how i can reset it? |
| 23:14.07 | fantasticulous | i can login but i can't see anything else |
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| 23:14.51 | [XeN] | try starting X on tty7 instead of tty1 |
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| 23:15.24 | fantasticulous | x IS on tty7 |
| 23:15.31 | fantasticulous | i want the console. |
| 23:16.25 | [XeN] | but you wrote tty1 is in graphics mode. what did you mean? |
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| 23:16.35 | fantasticulous | i mean it's not in text mode |
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| 23:16.44 | fantasticulous | it's one of those consoles based on a graphics mode |
| 23:16.48 | fantasticulous | 1680x1050 |
| 23:16.56 | fantasticulous | not sure who set it, either grub or the init scripts |
| 23:17.15 | acemi | grub has a param like vga= |
| 23:17.39 | fantasticulous | yes whatever. it sets the vga mode, but after i switch back to the console from X, the text is offset to the right and bottom |
| 23:17.51 | fantasticulous | so i need to reset it somehow |
| 23:17.58 | fantasticulous | maybe there are some fb tools? |
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| 23:18.37 | [XeN] | now i know what you mean. strange problem. maybe try to push another vga param to grub |
| 23:18.50 | [XeN] | something like 800x600 |
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| 23:36.53 | christoz | hello, how can i monitor the mouse related messages? for example the output of the left click event |
| 23:37.32 | abrotman | xev ? |
| 23:38.51 | christoz | that's a start thanks, i have a problem with mouse while using mozilla, sometimes the left click crashes for random time |
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| 23:39.27 | christoz | seems like this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/630024 |
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| 23:45.22 | ginet | nice apt-get upgrade lenny reults in vrc error stemhalted |
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| 23:51.13 | christoz | abrotman, maybe this is not the right tool, cause when it will happen again, there will be no output because there will be no ButtonPress Event |
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| 23:51.48 | christoz | is there any log file for mouse events |
| 23:51.50 | christoz | ? |
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| 23:54.38 | dondelelcaro | christoz: no, but you can check them out with xev |
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| 23:56.03 | J_P | Hi all |
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| 23:57.57 | maher | i'm confused about encodings - I have files with ? in their names, but when i look at the dir in vidir (using emacs as the editor) they look charcters with accents |
| 23:58.19 | maher | how do i find out what encoding they are in? how do i change it to one my terminal recognizes? |
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| 23:59.41 | debianer | hi |
| 23:59.54 | debianer | my debian6.0 can not use my wlan |
