| 00:03.30 | hardcode | babilen: anyways, thanks again.. ill see what i can do |
| 00:04.26 | *** join/#debian em (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 00:05.53 | *** join/#debian derchris (~derchris@78-86-128-162.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 00:07.53 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@119.248.22.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 00:07.57 | fas3r | i try to chqnge password of a user on openldap with ldappasswd and i got the msg : "Result: Server is unwilling to perform (53)", what mean this error i tried to google but i dont fin good answer. |
| 00:07.59 | *** join/#debian himuraken_ (~himuraken@fl-71-2-224-145.sta.embarqhsd.net) |
| 00:08.33 | *** join/#debian aarcane (~aarcane@c-98-238-135-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:08.34 | *** join/#debian dekar (~dekar@drms-4d014818.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 00:08.41 | *** join/#debian anisfarhana (~anis@unaffiliated/anisx) |
| 00:08.57 | fas3r | nobody : / |
| 00:09.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 902] by debhelper |
| 00:09.58 | anisfarhana | Good morning :) |
| 00:10.05 | hardcode | wassup! |
| 00:10.13 | crazygir | hiya! I'm trying to install a commercial application (zmanda) on debian (AMD64). the 64 bit version requires several 32bit packages, which zmanda suggests using getlibs (a shell script) to accomplish. |
| 00:10.26 | anisfarhana | Off topic : Could anyone help me on Google Apps ? Seem like #Google is dead right now , thank you. |
| 00:10.26 | crazygir | here are the zmanda required pkgs: http://docs.zmanda.com/Template:AAE_Pre-installation_Checks#Required_Packages_for_Debian.2fUbuntu |
| 00:10.50 | crazygir | and zmanda's suggested use of getlibs: http://network.zmanda.com/lore/article.php?id=410 |
| 00:10.59 | *** join/#debian aarcane_ (~aarcane@c-98-238-135-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:11.12 | crazygir | when running this for the required packages, I run into a couple of problems |
| 00:11.30 | crazygir | one is a dependency on sudo, though I simply modified the script |
| 00:11.41 | crazygir | the other is that some of the libs aren't available: Failed to download file http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/ia32-libs/ia32-libs_2.7+lenny1_i386.deb |
| 00:12.48 | crazygir | getlibs also has a tough time with libcurl4: libcurl4 was not found in your repositories |
| 00:12.58 | *** join/#debian King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) |
| 00:13.30 | crazygir | I have circumvented the latter with libcurl3, but what should be done about ia32-libs? |
| 00:14.03 | *** join/#debian ozysimpson (~ozysimpso@pingu.ihbi.qut.edu.au) |
| 00:14.50 | *** part/#debian King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) |
| 00:15.26 | crazygir | this is on debian lenny |
| 00:15.29 | *** join/#debian Erbureth (~kvirc@ip-94-112-189-1.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 00:15.48 | babilen | ,versions ia32-libs |
| 00:15.50 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ia32-libs' was found in i386. |
| 00:16.01 | babilen | ,versions ia32-libs --arch amd64 |
| 00:16.03 | judd | Package ia32-libs on amd64 -- etch: 1.19; lenny: 2.7+lenny1; squeeze: 20101117; sid: 20101129 |
| 00:16.18 | crazygir | so their docs are off |
| 00:16.26 | crazygir | that should be installed as normal |
| 00:16.29 | crazygir | correct? |
| 00:16.31 | babilen | crazygir: What does "apt-cache policy ia32-libs" give you? |
| 00:16.44 | crazygir | https://www.debian-administration.org/articles/534 <-- this suggests the same to me? |
| 00:16.50 | babilen | crazygir: You should be able to install it with, e.g. "aptitude install ia32-libs" yes |
| 00:16.59 | babilen | crazygir: one second |
| 00:17.30 | crazygir | I believe I installed it a while back, so apt-cache is saying: Installed: 2.7+lenny1 |
| 00:17.38 | crazygir | 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages |
| 00:18.01 | crazygir | would you like me to pastebin the full output? |
| 00:18.08 | babilen | A bunch of 32bit libraries are packaged for amd64 in, for example, ia32-libs -- would check each library and search for it with "apt-file" |
| 00:19.02 | babilen | crazygir: No, I believe that you have it installed. I have just never worked with zmanda and can't really help you with that. Just wanted to point out that you can easily install ia32-libs |
| 00:19.06 | crazygir | I'm not following your recommendation 100% |
| 00:19.14 | crazygir | gotcha |
| 00:19.24 | babilen | my recommendation? |
| 00:19.36 | crazygir | yea, it looks like my issue is that their docs are off |
| 00:19.57 | crazygir | I ran into problems with their installer a while back.. just trying to go through it again |
| 00:20.12 | crazygir | I'll see if it is happier with my current setup |
| 00:20.22 | *** part/#debian Erbureth (~kvirc@ip-94-112-189-1.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 00:20.37 | babilen | There are other packages like ia32-libs-gtk too that ship a couple of libs. As I said, I would search directly for the libs in question with "apt-file" |
| 00:20.39 | *** part/#debian xqueralt (~xqueralt@queralt.me) |
| 00:21.29 | crazygir | gotcha |
| 00:22.49 | babilen | crazygir: If you don't have to use zmanda, Debian comes with good alternatives like Amanda or Bacula -- (zmanda sounds like an Amanda rip-off) |
| 00:24.28 | babilen | But I guess, that this fits into some larger architecture and zmanda has to be used because some CEO-layer decided to shell out money for something |
| 00:26.03 | *** join/#debian alyur (~alyur@217.116.62.236) |
| 00:26.24 | *** join/#debian K1ng (~KING@180.149.8.231) |
| 00:26.25 | f00li5h | svnadmin upgrade throws the same client-newer-than-repo error (from bdb) ... |
| 00:26.28 | f00li5h | unhelpful. |
| 00:27.37 | babilen | #subversion |
| 00:27.41 | *** part/#debian K1ng (~KING@180.149.8.231) |
| 00:27.44 | babilen | or #git ;) |
| 00:27.50 | *** join/#debian redDEADresolve (~redDEADre@ws055007.housing-tp.siu.edu) |
| 00:28.44 | *** join/#debian NOMADICUS (~kvirc@DSLPool-net209-116.wctc.net) |
| 00:29.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 895] by debhelper |
| 00:29.07 | f00li5h | is there a way i can get dpkg to either give me back the previous svn I had, or atleast tell me what the version number was a hour ago? |
| 00:30.11 | babilen | f00li5h: The package should be in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and you can install it with "dpkg -i" -- what did you do to install a newer version? I smell mixed sources ;) |
| 00:32.30 | *** join/#debian dzup2 (~alex@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 00:32.53 | *** join/#debian joesph (~joesph@HSI-KBW-091-089-101-237.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 00:33.18 | *** join/#debian sanal_madatheth (~sanalkuma@117.196.137.115) |
| 00:34.47 | *** join/#debian mfazliazran (~fazli@ns1.rmc.net.my) |
| 00:35.18 | *** join/#debian Neurotrophin (~quassel@adsl-178-53-69.gnv.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:37.38 | f00li5h | babilen: no, you don't smell mixed anything. I installed viewvcs, which decided it needed a newer apache and svn |
| 00:38.01 | f00li5h | turns out that this involves ruining everything. |
| 00:38.02 | babilen | and? |
| 00:38.15 | babilen | ,versions viewcvs |
| 00:38.16 | judd | Package viewcvs on i386 -- etch: 0.9.2+cvs.1.0.dev.2004.07.28-4.1etch1; lenny: 1.0.5-0.2 |
| 00:38.44 | babilen | if you install viewcvs for Lenny it ruins "everyhting" ? |
| 00:38.47 | f00li5h | babilen: and what? subversion's policy is to break back compatability every point release |
| 00:38.52 | *** join/#debian lays84 (lays84@modemcable198.116-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 00:39.06 | f00li5h | so, when I went up one, it can't read the repos from the previous version of the client |
| 00:39.20 | babilen | yes, one reason why we don't use it anymore. |
| 00:39.20 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:39.24 | *** join/#debian Joint (~deb@99-126-28-149.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:39.33 | f00li5h | i don't care about you not using it, i *am* using |
| 00:39.49 | f00li5h | and it just got fucked by something that was supposed to make it easier to use |
| 00:39.58 | *** join/#debian joesph (~joesph@HSI-KBW-091-089-101-237.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 00:40.16 | f00li5h | puts $5 on the table that says installing the old client is going to break shit becuase of differing bindings |
| 00:40.31 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 00:40.38 | f00li5h | *sigh* |
| 00:40.58 | f00li5h | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of subversion: subversion depends on libsvn1 (= 1.5.1dfsg1-4); however: Version of libsvn1 on system is 1.6.12dfsg-2. |
| 00:40.59 | dpkg | f00li5h: that's not the complete error. Please pastebin the command you gave and the entire output. Ask me about <pastebin> <bat> <localised errors>. |
| 00:42.24 | *** join/#debian mark22 (~mark@unaffiliated/mark21) |
| 00:42.32 | *** join/#debian lays84 (lays84@modemcable198.116-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 00:44.42 | *** join/#debian Raptors (~Raptors@dsl-69-172-123-225.acanac.net) |
| 00:45.17 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (~DarkCow@5ad9ea12.bb.sky.com) |
| 00:45.18 | *** join/#debian bookmark (~bookmark@cpe-72-184-160-233.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 00:45.19 | bookmark | hiya |
| 00:45.28 | bookmark | does anyone know some console based alsamixer? |
| 00:45.44 | deepy | What about alsamixer? |
| 00:45.58 | bookmark | i tried aumix but it says error even though i have a snd_pcm kernel module loaded |
| 00:46.02 | deepy | Doesn't it use curses unlike alsamixergui? |
| 00:46.20 | bookmark | yeah i need a curses |
| 00:46.24 | bookmark | ill see if i can find that one |
| 00:47.13 | abrotman | like alsamixer? |
| 00:47.16 | Emmanuel_Chanel | hi |
| 00:47.18 | bookmark | duh, i should have guessed that its in the alsa-utils |
| 00:47.31 | bookmark | actually i think i even saw someone ask that |
| 00:47.43 | dvs | alsamixer? |
| 00:48.34 | deepy | just use apt-file if you can't find it |
| 00:50.58 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 00:51.13 | *** join/#debian mu3en (~quassel@124.64.98.149) |
| 00:51.42 | simonrvn | people say it three times and still get clue.... |
| 00:51.49 | simonrvn | still don't get* |
| 00:52.06 | dvs | say what? ;-) |
| 00:52.15 | simonrvn | fixes babilen's sniffer |
| 00:52.27 | deepy | dvs: what? |
| 00:52.30 | deepy | ducks away |
| 00:52.37 | simonrvn | dvs: i don't know, could you explain it? |
| 00:52.57 | dvs | is it bigger than a breadbox? |
| 00:54.19 | babilen | simonrvn: Ah, thanks! |
| 00:56.54 | *** join/#debian Chelsea (~Chelsea@a82-93-179-135.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 00:57.08 | hardcode | lol that was awesome.. i just got it now |
| 00:57.28 | simonrvn | what was? |
| 00:58.11 | hardcode | shrugs. |
| 00:59.25 | *** join/#debian _markb1_ (~mbiggers@wire152019112015.med.unc.edu) |
| 01:00.30 | blast_hardcheese | I'm trying to install SQLAlchemy inside a virtualenv, but it keeps finding the old version that lives in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6. Is there a way to force it to install the latest one? |
| 01:00.56 | *** join/#debian chemist (~xxx@78.33.177.154) |
| 01:02.54 | blast_hardcheese | Hmm... maybe this is more of a #python question |
| 01:04.04 | *** join/#debian shahri__ (~shahri@dslb-084-063-241-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 01:05.10 | babilen | blast_hardcheese: "--no-site-packages" might be worth a look. but yes, take it to #python :) |
| 01:05.52 | blast_hardcheese | babilen: Just did, thanks :) |
| 01:06.14 | blast_hardcheese | babilen: You're right, the first answer was --no-site-packages |
| 01:06.58 | babilen | I guess that installing a new version with pip/easy_install might do the trick as well. anyway -- good luck ;) |
| 01:07.45 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (~DarkCow@5ad9ea12.bb.sky.com) |
| 01:08.38 | *** join/#debian rita (~rita@h204.133.101.208.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 01:09.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 888] by debhelper |
| 01:09.19 | rita | hi, i'm trying to access some mp3s on a remote computer in my house over samba, but I can't even browse the files without settings the Others Permissions to rwx, is this normal? |
| 01:10.17 | f00li5h | if you can't read it, how do you expect to read it ? |
| 01:10.52 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 01:11.00 | rita | i can read it, but to access it from the other computer i need to have execution privledges set |
| 01:11.19 | rita | for others |
| 01:11.49 | rita | chmod 771 works but 774 or 776 which is what i want, doesn't |
| 01:11.54 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@cpe-024-074-043-004.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 01:11.54 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 01:13.46 | *** join/#debian xiangfu (~xiangfu@124.205.34.122) |
| 01:13.55 | *** join/#debian afurlan (~afurlan@201.22.61.64.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 01:15.13 | *** join/#debian sw0e (~sw0e@sw0e.fr) |
| 01:17.15 | *** join/#debian sw0e (~sw0e@sw0e.fr) |
| 01:17.17 | *** join/#debian _____________ (~daedhel@cable-12-101-211.b2b2c.ca) |
| 01:17.24 | hardcode | rita: why not 755? (im really not following anyways.. ) |
| 01:18.37 | *** join/#debian Raptors (~Raptors@dsl-69-172-123-225.acanac.net) |
| 01:18.50 | *** join/#debian Zesturian (~zest@unaffiliated/zesturian) |
| 01:18.52 | *** join/#debian sw0e (~sw0e@sw0e.fr) |
| 01:20.42 | *** join/#debian sw0e (~sw0e@sw0e.fr) |
| 01:20.49 | rita | chmod 771 works but 774 or 776 which is what i want, doesn't |
| 01:20.57 | rita | uggh, sorry bout that |
| 01:21.02 | rita | hardcode: isn't it a bad idea to give anyone the privledge to execute? |
| 01:21.19 | rita | which is what 755 does, if i do that, why not just do 777? |
| 01:21.39 | hardcode | because your giving anyone the priviledge to delete modify the contents |
| 01:22.33 | *** join/#debian dfhsd (~dfhsd@82-170-45-113.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 01:22.44 | *** join/#debian Bastihase (~bastihase@dslb-088-078-059-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 01:22.55 | hardcode | im really not sure the setup.. if they are actually mp3s and the executing mechinasm isnt going to crash the comptur throwing mp3 code at it... then its probably you best fix if its not some config problem in samba |
| 01:23.28 | rita | okay, so giving execution isn't bad as long as they can't write too, because then they can't upload and run mallicious code? |
| 01:24.13 | *** join/#debian superjet_busy (~superjet@wikimedia/Crewlay) |
| 01:24.27 | rita | but i still can't understand why i can't even display the files without execution set, doesn't seem right or secure, it's a regular samba setup, security=share |
| 01:24.54 | hardcode | ntfs tags everything as +x if i understand it |
| 01:25.07 | *** join/#debian chetan (~chetan@110-174-91-56.tpgi.com.au) |
| 01:25.08 | rita | both are linux machines too |
| 01:25.23 | zinx | I don't think NTFS has an execute permission |
| 01:25.26 | rita | ext4 on both too |
| 01:25.35 | rita | i don't think ntfs has permissions period |
| 01:25.37 | zinx | it's not exactly POSIX |
| 01:26.13 | *** join/#debian dummies_freelanc (~javier@186.19.177.212) |
| 01:26.21 | *** join/#debian vulture (~vulture@about/csharp/regular/vulture) |
| 01:26.35 | hardcode | yeah... all go with that.. no permissions.. so check your . permissions for viewing |
| 01:26.54 | dummies_freelanc | hello, i want can be stable my debian.. now i hace lenny , but gnome how unistable |
| 01:26.59 | *** join/#debian siriusly (~Langley@62.120.104.115) |
| 01:27.04 | dummies_freelanc | i want all in lenny |
| 01:28.16 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (~DarkCow@5ad9ea12.bb.sky.com) |
| 01:28.49 | nsadmin | you mean you installed some packages from unstable? |
| 01:29.47 | dummies_freelanc | yes,, some time a go i can use 3g. movil internet and add repo in sources list of unstable.. |
| 01:30.01 | dummies_freelanc | after i changed to lenny |
| 01:30.05 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 01:30.10 | *** join/#debian xiangfu (~xiangfu@124.205.34.122) |
| 01:30.13 | dummies_freelanc | and now want all in lenny |
| 01:30.33 | dummies_freelanc | but i just have repo lenny in my sources .lst |
| 01:31.34 | nsadmin | a long time ago debian decided they would not support downgrading |
| 01:32.20 | nsadmin | dpkg -s libc6 | grep Version |
| 01:32.21 | dpkg | There is no record of a libc6 | grep Version package |
| 01:32.47 | nsadmin | , versions libc6 |
| 01:32.49 | judd | Package libc6 on i386 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch10+b1; etch-security: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch10+b1; lenny: 2.7-18lenny6; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny6; squeeze-security: 2.11.2-6+squeeze1; sid: 2.11.2-7; squeeze: 2.11.2-7 |
| 01:33.35 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 01:33.44 | nsadmin | dummies_freelanc, run this: dpkg -s libc6 | grep Version |
| 01:34.20 | *** join/#debian _____________ (~daedhel@li248-41.members.linode.com) |
| 01:34.51 | dummies_freelanc | Version: 2.11.1-2 |
| 01:35.16 | *** join/#debian walter_____ (~walter@201.79.253.53) |
| 01:35.34 | nsadmin | by adding unstable packages, you've pretty much upgraded yourself to unstable |
| 01:35.51 | walter_____ | Lenny CD-1 doesn't contain pppoeconf? |
| 01:36.21 | nsadmin | your libc is the one from unstable of a few months ago |
| 01:36.27 | *** join/#debian siriusnova (~Langley@ded.khan.su) |
| 01:36.56 | nsadmin | this is not easily reversable; if you want lenny you would need to reinstall fresh. |
| 01:37.16 | dummies_freelanc | yes |
| 01:37.26 | dummies_freelanc | but i can use gnome .. |
| 01:37.32 | dummies_freelanc | again |
| 01:38.06 | walter_____ | nsadmin Lenny CD-1 doesn't contain pppoeconf? |
| 01:38.30 | nsadmin | , file bin/pppoeconf |
| 01:38.33 | judd | bin/pppoeconf in lenny/i386: pppoeconf: usr/sbin/pppoeconf |
| 01:38.59 | nsadmin | dunno what cd 1 contains |
| 01:39.09 | dummies_freelanc | nsadmin: what i do now? |
| 01:39.17 | walter_____ | thanks |
| 01:39.33 | nsadmin | but, there does exist a pppoeconf package |
| 01:39.56 | nsadmin | you could get it from the net instead of from a cd |
| 01:39.56 | *** join/#debian marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) |
| 01:40.45 | nsadmin | dummies_freelanc, depends on what you want. if you want to keep what you have, upgrade it all the way to unstable. if you want lenny, reinstall. |
| 01:41.31 | dummies_freelanc | i want to unstable is good idea?ç |
| 01:41.55 | nsadmin | what is the purpose of the machine? |
| 01:42.49 | dummies_freelanc | see internet videos. |
| 01:42.55 | dummies_freelanc | mail check |
| 01:42.59 | dummies_freelanc | personal use |
| 01:44.18 | nsadmin | then you should install an operating system (or upgrade your present) if it supports you doing those things |
| 01:44.54 | dummies_freelanc | ok but work sid? |
| 01:45.04 | dummies_freelanc | or testin |
| 01:45.46 | dvs | do testing. It's close to being the new stable anyways |
| 01:45.54 | nsadmin | if you go with sid, you would upgrade it. if you go with anything else, that would be a wipe and reinstall (you don't have to wipe your /home) |
| 01:46.46 | *** join/#debian bp0 (~bp@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net) |
| 01:46.46 | *** join/#debian bp0 (~bp@unaffiliated/bp0) |
| 01:48.02 | *** join/#debian alcides (~user@189.216.33.5) |
| 01:48.26 | *** join/#debian blaize (~blaize0@61.8.255.141) |
| 01:50.44 | nsadmin | if you want to keep what's in your /home dir and it's not on a separate partition, NOW would be the time to back it up |
| 01:51.32 | *** join/#debian drizzy (~joe@cpe-65-189-220-102.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 01:51.49 | *** part/#debian drizzy (~joe@cpe-65-189-220-102.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 01:53.07 | *** join/#debian aarcane (~aarcane@c-98-238-135-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:54.40 | *** join/#debian madleo (~madleo@bd21a1b6.virtua.com.br) |
| 01:57.03 | *** join/#debian echo-area (~user@114.251.86.0) |
| 01:57.22 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 01:58.51 | *** join/#debian minsa (minsa@c-24-5-121-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:59.04 | *** join/#debian noodles900 (~jpinx@ppp-124-120-7-181.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 01:59.19 | *** join/#debian jpinx-ee1pc (~johnp@110.164.167.86) |
| 01:59.28 | *** join/#debian tsccof (~martin@187.5.234.169) |
| 01:59.35 | *** join/#debian Raptors (~Raptors@69.172.123.225) |
| 02:02.39 | *** join/#debian ispeak_ (~ispeak@192.163.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 02:02.42 | *** part/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@190.254.209.126) |
| 02:02.55 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@190.254.209.126) |
| 02:03.38 | *** join/#debian CAiRO (~tooar@p54BEB628.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:03.40 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 02:05.24 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@99-8-168-46.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:05.25 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@unaffiliated/llua) |
| 02:06.15 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 02:10.29 | *** join/#debian lolcat (~lolcat@unaffiliated/energy-/x-7653247) |
| 02:10.30 | lolcat | Hello |
| 02:10.42 | lolcat | I need to test my ddos prevention, what program can I use? |
| 02:13.38 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) |
| 02:13.55 | crazygir | I have a 3rd party app complaining about not having libidn.so.11, how would I find out which package would includes this lib? |
| 02:14.05 | *** join/#debian luminoso_ (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 02:14.11 | crazygir | lolcat: ddos prevention? |
| 02:14.12 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 02:14.54 | crazygir | lolcat: are you not capable of ddos'ing your self? |
| 02:15.48 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:15.59 | babilen | crazygir: lolcat probably needs help with the first 'd' |
| 02:16.19 | babilen | crazygir: loic? |
| 02:16.48 | crazygir | hah |
| 02:17.13 | babilen | !apt-file |
| 02:17.14 | dpkg | well, apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file or list files in a package even if it's not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regexp; see man apt-file). You can also search online; ask me about <pdo> <auto-apt> <dlocate> |
| 02:17.14 | crazygir | babilen: so I got past the first hurdle with zmanda, though it now wants libidn |
| 02:17.18 | *** join/#debian treefern (me@219-70-209-211.cable.dynamic.giga.net.tw) |
| 02:17.30 | crazygir | ah, I thought it had to be installed |
| 02:17.40 | crazygir | from what I can tell.. http://packages.qa.debian.org/libi/libidn.html |
| 02:17.47 | babilen | yeah, use apt-file -- but I just fear that you'll reach the point where you can't find the 32bit lib packaged anymore |
| 02:17.52 | crazygir | but getlibs is not finding the package |
| 02:18.11 | crazygir | why.. are they going extinct? |
| 02:18.23 | crazygir | asteroids falling? |
| 02:18.39 | crazygir | more icelandic volcanoes? |
| 02:18.40 | babilen | not *all* libs are packaged as 32bit libs for amd64 *in addition* to the 64bit ones |
| 02:18.50 | crazygir | mmm |
| 02:19.18 | crazygir | I think the point of getlibs is that it finds the 32bit ones for you, and ensure they are installed appropriately |
| 02:19.47 | crazygir | looks at the script |
| 02:19.59 | babilen | *shrug* haven't heard of getlibs ... |
| 02:20.19 | babilen | But to get this straight, *why* do you need zmanda and on what kind of machine are you installing it? |
| 02:20.56 | babilen | It seems that installing it on a 32bit system/a virtual machine/chroot might be a better idea than trying to get all those 32bit libs together on a 64bit system. |
| 02:21.49 | *** join/#debian in2rd (~in2rd@cpe-75-80-207-51.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 02:21.55 | *** part/#debian Cibort (~Cibort@pc-70-46-45-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 02:21.55 | babilen | I mentioned earlier that there are alternatives like Amanda (zmanda sounds like a rip-off of that) and bacula are available on Debian |
| 02:22.04 | babilen | wouldn't that be an option? |
| 02:22.30 | crazygir | I need support for microsoft crap |
| 02:23.08 | crazygir | not my decision there, but I have to support it, zmanda is really my best option there (1/5 the price of my other options) |
| 02:23.32 | hardcode | i hope you wore protection |
| 02:23.33 | babilen | alright, just checking. probably better than tivoli :) |
| 02:23.47 | babilen | or cheaper at least |
| 02:23.49 | crazygir | running 32bit debian is a possibility, but I then miss out on the 4gb of ram this system has |
| 02:23.56 | crazygir | :P |
| 02:24.09 | babilen | you could install a 64bit kernel ... or does a single process need the memory? |
| 02:24.13 | crazygir | believe me, I'll be thrilled once exchange is out of my shop |
| 02:24.36 | babilen | or just install a virtual machine for handling backups ... should be up and running within minutes if you use virtualbox |
| 02:24.53 | crazygir | babilen: zmanda has apache, mysql, and it's own crap, and while I currently do not know what it'll use exactly, I'm sure 2gb would be tight |
| 02:25.00 | babilen | or a 32bit chroot ... debootstrap is your friend |
| 02:25.16 | crazygir | I'm trying to keep this simple.. |
| 02:25.37 | crazygir | so I guess a 32bit system would be the route |
| 02:25.56 | babilen | crazygir: you can install a bigmem or 64bit *kernel* on your machine, the 64bit would make *all* the memory available just not to a single process |
| 02:26.07 | crazygir | interesting |
| 02:26.14 | crazygir | have any docs on that? |
| 02:26.30 | babilen | hang on, i'll write some |
| 02:26.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah the 4gb ram limit is a windows only thing (for 'compatibility reasons') |
| 02:26.49 | crazygir | hah |
| 02:26.59 | *** join/#debian rpgdude (~user@2002:4576:37e6:0:215:afff:febc:d97c) |
| 02:27.04 | crazygir | Arrowmaster: how do you mena? |
| 02:27.26 | *** join/#debian Sary (~Sa@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 02:27.58 | Arrowmaster | MS limits the total system ram on 32bit windows to 4gb, 32bit linux can use more than 4gb although there are still limits to the max a single process can use |
| 02:28.23 | crazygir | nods |
| 02:28.33 | babilen | crazygir: I don't have a good document ready, but trust me. you can install a 64bit kernel on a 32bit system (64bit kernel + 32bit userland) -- that means that every single process would still be 32bit (and therefore a single process can not use *all* the memory the kernel can handle) |
| 02:28.43 | *** join/#debian yagoo (~jb@modemcable197.51-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:28.45 | babilen | what about virtual machine or chroot? |
| 02:29.11 | crazygir | I trust you on that, but I have to give the install to an admin of mine |
| 02:29.24 | *** join/#debian p0g0_ (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 02:29.25 | crazygir | that gets complicated |
| 02:29.38 | nevyn | Arrowmaster: that's untrue. |
| 02:29.41 | crazygir | I could virtualize, but I have limited space on my xen system |
| 02:29.43 | babilen | or you could spend the rest of your night installing that proprietary shit ... don't *they* offer super-dupa live support with free backmassage for you while their corporate angels install your system? |
| 02:29.53 | crazygir | yep |
| 02:29.56 | yagoo | crazygir, why you have a lot of competent female admins? |
| 02:30.02 | crazygir | but, they clearly haven't tested this in 6 months |
| 02:30.08 | nevyn | 32bit windows supports more than 4gig of ram. with the same restrictions as linux (no more than 4gig in a process) |
| 02:30.11 | crazygir | yagoo: wtf? |
| 02:30.26 | yagoo | crazygir, what's so complicating about giving the task to an admin? |
| 02:30.56 | Arrowmaster | nevyn: true, 32bit server versions of windows do, but desktop versions dont (although you can actually make them do it but its not easy) |
| 02:30.59 | crazygir | yagoo: I wanted to help them out with docs I know will keep them on track, what's so wrong with that? |
| 02:31.21 | hardcode | the last hour you spent in here? |
| 02:31.23 | babilen | yagoo: some people have serious problems with remarks like that |
| 02:31.37 | crazygir | yagoo: and where did gender enter this conversation? |
| 02:31.41 | crazygir | hardcode: me? |
| 02:31.59 | yagoo | sounded lame. I guess it's not complicated after all. LOL |
| 02:32.02 | *** join/#debian comradekingu1 (~comradeki@188.113.112.35) |
| 02:32.05 | valdyn | crazygir: Im sure google has plenty docs on this |
| 02:32.12 | crazygir | :) |
| 02:32.27 | hardcode | google has p0rn.. me go there |
| 02:32.50 | crazygir | hardcode: I've been around for longer, although a good amount of that time was spent with a teething todler |
| 02:33.44 | *** join/#debian The_Machine (~Euphoria@c-71-238-28-215.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 02:34.30 | *** join/#debian holycow (~new@poco208-2.fredcanhelp.com) |
| 02:35.46 | *** join/#debian pfred1 (~pfred1@unaffiliated/pfred1) |
| 02:35.48 | *** join/#debian dfhsd (~dfhsd@82-170-45-113.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 02:37.21 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 02:38.00 | *** join/#debian ngochai (~ngochai@61.8.209.130) |
| 02:40.27 | *** join/#debian bier|tp (~bier@p57A67254.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:41.10 | *** join/#debian stillbourne (~stillbour@174-29-16-231.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 02:42.19 | *** join/#debian ridin (~joshua@cpe-76-90-165-115.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 02:44.04 | *** join/#debian rmrfslash (~quassel@pool-98-110-160-237.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:45.25 | *** join/#debian dayangkun_ (~YK@60.247.97.98) |
| 02:47.22 | *** part/#debian stillbourne (~stillbour@174-29-16-231.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 02:50.21 | *** join/#debian Raptors (~Raptors@69.172.123.225) |
| 02:50.37 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (angel@188.214.222.57) |
| 02:51.55 | *** part/#debian tsccof (~martin@187.5.234.169) |
| 02:52.21 | *** join/#debian hero100era (~hero100er@220.189.206.226) |
| 02:54.03 | *** join/#debian Zygo (startkeylo@startkeylogger.hungrycats.org) |
| 02:55.07 | *** join/#debian bier (~bier@p57A67254.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:57.03 | *** join/#debian joshsmith (~joshsmith@ip72-207-29-99.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 02:59.08 | *** join/#debian CAiRO__ (~tooar@p54BED5A0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:01.00 | *** join/#debian jhford (~jhford@johnford.info) |
| 03:01.38 | *** join/#debian d1b (~db@d1b.org) |
| 03:02.32 | *** join/#debian alteregoa (~dude@80-218-136-229.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 03:02.45 | alteregoa | i got a strange issue with ftdi_sio |
| 03:02.47 | *** join/#debian mee (~mee@li94-42.members.linode.com) |
| 03:02.59 | alteregoa | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.59 | alteregoa | ftdi_sio unable to read latency timer -32 |
| 03:03.05 | pfred1 | with a name like that I'm not surprised |
| 03:03.09 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 03:05.26 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 03:06.22 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@77-87-137-43.internetia.net.pl) |
| 03:06.22 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 03:06.46 | *** join/#debian khaije1 (~n1x0r@unaffiliated/khaije1) |
| 03:07.52 | *** join/#debian dinya (Denis@46.146.82.12) |
| 03:08.41 | *** join/#debian crazygir (~jason@li14-82.members.linode.com) |
| 03:10.11 | rafuch0 | in dhcp3-server what these two directives mean |
| 03:10.11 | rafuch0 | default-lease-time 86400; |
| 03:10.11 | rafuch0 | max-lease-time 604800; |
| 03:10.13 | *** join/#debian Guest36537 (~jason@unaffiliated/crazygir) |
| 03:11.28 | *** join/#debian acu (~acu@24-159-215-147.static.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 03:11.43 | *** join/#debian dzup2 (~alex@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 03:12.25 | acu | I am trying to install debian Squeeze daily amd - through netinstall and it tells me Bad archive mirror (I tried few of the US and few of canadian servers) does anyone knows why is that ? |
| 03:12.40 | *** join/#debian zinx (~zinx@unaffiliated/zinx) |
| 03:13.53 | hero100era | acu: what's the url? |
| 03:16.28 | acu | hero100era, I tried several of them - I will give you in a sec |
| 03:16.40 | abrotman | acu: you might be proxied |
| 03:16.57 | *** join/#debian Amorphous (jan@f048043189.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 03:16.57 | *** join/#debian Amorphous (jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) |
| 03:17.16 | hero100era | normally you need down it form :debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ |
| 03:17.26 | hero100era | debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ |
| 03:17.52 | acu | abrotman: I installed this many many times from the same machine - let me see again |
| 03:17.53 | *** join/#debian Bry-Dog (~Bry-Dog@76-10-150-237.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 03:18.04 | *** join/#debian Zargeus_ (~zargeus@adsl-99-152-32-157.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:18.12 | *** join/#debian Nayruden (~nayruden@71-219-96-151.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 03:18.56 | *** join/#debian d1b (~db@d1b.org) |
| 03:18.59 | *** join/#debian jhford (~jhford@johnford.info) |
| 03:19.34 | *** join/#debian mee_ (~mee@li94-42.members.linode.com) |
| 03:20.31 | hero100era | you download initrd.gz and linux form it. and use grub to boot form these 2 files, and installation will start. |
| 03:21.12 | hero100era | all the necessary files will download form internet auto. |
| 03:21.36 | *** join/#debian wobblyonions (~chriskili@116.66.228.34) |
| 03:22.38 | *** join/#debian arvind_k (~arvind@117.192.198.111) |
| 03:22.45 | hero100era | and if you already have a shell, you can use debootstrap command to install it. |
| 03:23.13 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@c114-76-23-136.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 03:23.18 | hero100era | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 03:23.52 | acu | I downloaded the weekly one instead of the daily one - It is not properly labeled in the website of the d-i |
| 03:23.56 | abrotman | hero100era: uhm what? |
| 03:25.10 | abrotman | acu: it really shuldn't matter .. the mismatch stuff hasn't changed AFAIK .. usually that happens when there is a proxy in between you and the repository |
| 03:26.12 | hero100era | abrotman: some time if the kernel changed, and it will be a mismatch. |
| 03:26.32 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:26.56 | abrotman | no, it wouldn't |
| 03:27.00 | acu | I see that the daily usb stick etc - is 13 december - while the other one is still 12 dec |
| 03:27.37 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 03:27.43 | hero100era | just you did not meet it. doesn't means it would not happen. |
| 03:27.56 | *** join/#debian mazzanet (~mazzanet@fe1-1.mel-ii.bdr1.mazzanet.id.au) |
| 03:27.56 | *** join/#debian mazzanet (~mazzanet@hpavc/mazzanet) |
| 03:28.20 | abrotman | hero100era: he hasn't changed the kernel .. he's in the installer |
| 03:28.34 | abrotman | acu: and oyu're sure there's no proxy? |
| 03:29.17 | acu | let me look back on my settings maybe I wrote wrong IP during my setup - but I am sure is not proxy - that system is connected directly to internet through a bridge |
| 03:30.10 | hero100era | abrotman: if you down a old installer, and it tells you to download some file which is already updated at the server side, it's a mismatch. |
| 03:30.41 | hero100era | installation will not continue. |
| 03:31.06 | acu | perhaps the update of the servers occurs right now ? |
| 03:31.08 | abrotman | anyway ... |
| 03:31.18 | abrotman | acu: you said you tried multiple mirrors |
| 03:31.32 | acu | yes - tried canada and US |
| 03:31.45 | acu | maybe I should try Guadelupa or something |
| 03:32.15 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@unaffiliated/daya) |
| 03:32.36 | abrotman | acu: try a third tier mirror ... ISTR there is a uchicago or uw mirror .. those are near you |
| 03:32.49 | *** join/#debian allan8904 (~allan@210.9.196.17) |
| 03:33.44 | acu | abrotman: you are right - i should do now - just went back few steps back for the install - |
| 03:35.06 | *** join/#debian johntramp (~john@222-154-151-110.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 03:35.17 | johntramp | hi. how do i see the files installed by a package? |
| 03:36.22 | crazygir | when running apt-file update, as instructed by the package notes after install, I get: Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-amd64.gz |
| 03:36.41 | crazygir | should this be going for http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz ? |
| 03:37.16 | *** join/#debian pipegeek (~pipegeek@70-36-139-193.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 03:42.26 | *** join/#debian fas3r (~fas3r@212.51.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 03:43.48 | *** join/#debian stylesen (~stylesen@nat/nokia/x-vjaffnyclfvvdvqk) |
| 03:43.57 | abrotman | crazygir: no .. apt-file can never find that file .. ignore the error |
| 03:44.06 | abrotman | !tell johntramp about apt-file |
| 03:45.21 | *** join/#debian edju (~edju@75-39-106-129.lightspeed.dtrtmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:47.24 | *** join/#debian Eggdrops (Eggdrop@Eggdrop.us) |
| 03:49.01 | *** join/#debian hjb_ (~hjb@unaffiliated/hjb) |
| 03:54.59 | *** join/#debian Infra_HDC (~askinfra@skazo4nik.comex.ru) |
| 03:55.21 | johntramp | thanks abrotman |
| 03:56.03 | *** join/#debian cjns3274 (~weechat@ool-45702956.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:56.03 | *** join/#debian Raptors (~Raptors@69.172.123.225) |
| 03:56.37 | *** join/#debian arvind_k (~arvind@117.192.206.197) |
| 03:56.41 | *** join/#debian aarcane (~aarcane@c-98-238-135-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:57.59 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 04:00.45 | *** join/#debian sha (~sha@e176008177.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 04:05.33 | *** join/#debian ciphernaut (~Zak@66.187.239.10) |
| 04:08.20 | *** join/#debian Xilent_ (~quassel@pdpc/supporter/active/xilent) |
| 04:12.43 | *** join/#debian The_Ball (~The_Ball@123-2-12-83.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) |
| 04:12.47 | *** join/#debian Touchstone (~Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) |
| 04:16.40 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (foobar@mnhm-4d018ad5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 04:22.20 | *** join/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.3) |
| 04:23.01 | *** part/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.3) |
| 04:24.35 | *** join/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.3) |
| 04:25.01 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~kj4kjl@cpe-024-074-129-096.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 04:28.00 | *** part/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.3) |
| 04:28.13 | *** join/#debian phinaliumz (~doesnt@86-60-159-197-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) |
| 04:29.22 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-70-70-0.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 04:30.02 | *** join/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.3) |
| 04:31.34 | *** part/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.3) |
| 04:34.20 | *** join/#debian bonjoyee (~joy@117.204.163.3) |
| 04:35.01 | *** part/#debian bonjoyee (~joy@117.204.163.3) |
| 04:39.19 | *** join/#debian wthtt (veter@dyn-30-132.e-sky.ru) |
| 04:40.03 | *** join/#debian werdan7 (~w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7) |
| 04:48.27 | *** join/#debian simonrvn_ (simon@197.112-ppp.3menatwork.com) |
| 04:52.11 | *** join/#debian joneal (~joneal@cpe-66-91-228-48.san.res.rr.com) |
| 04:52.18 | *** join/#debian rgr (~rgr@85.183.18.158) |
| 04:53.01 | *** join/#debian Bop (~longcat@bl4-166-228.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 04:56.43 | kj4 | fik |
| 04:57.25 | superkop | http://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.html |
| 04:58.51 | *** join/#debian infernix (nix@unaffiliated/infernix) |
| 04:59.17 | *** join/#debian aarcane (~aarcane@c-98-238-135-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:59.24 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1387.ams-04.nl.sixxs.net) |
| 05:04.24 | *** join/#debian Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.202.149.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 05:06.08 | *** join/#debian ridin (~joshua@cpe-76-90-165-115.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 05:11.38 | *** join/#debian siriusly (~Langley@62.120.104.115) |
| 05:15.31 | *** join/#debian cyberninja (~user@CPE-124-186-132-135.lns10.woo.bigpond.net.au) |
| 05:15.41 | *** part/#debian cyberninja (~user@CPE-124-186-132-135.lns10.woo.bigpond.net.au) |
| 05:20.05 | *** part/#debian hero100era (~hero100er@220.189.206.226) |
| 05:20.49 | *** join/#debian siriusnova (~Langley@ded.khan.su) |
| 05:21.31 | *** join/#debian xiangfu (~xiangfu@123.115.6.79) |
| 05:24.38 | *** join/#debian ra1nb0w (~ra1nb0w@2001:470:1f0b:1a9f::1) |
| 05:26.50 | *** join/#debian Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 05:28.20 | *** join/#debian sarathms (~BOSINGH@183.83.199.142) |
| 05:28.58 | *** join/#debian Italian_Plumber (~Italian_P@adsl-074-236-202-005.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:33.46 | *** join/#debian yagoo (~jb@modemcable197.51-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 05:38.41 | *** join/#debian Infra_3600 (~rdanilov@80.250.173.139) |
| 05:39.32 | *** join/#debian LegolasV (~whoeiii35@kde/developer/sverberkt) |
| 05:43.49 | *** join/#debian jwl_ (~jess@host86-132-183-102.range86-132.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:44.00 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (star1@ZQ128185.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 05:46.22 | *** join/#debian alyur (~alyur@217.116.62.236) |
| 05:51.39 | *** join/#debian jwl (~jess@host86-132-183-102.range86-132.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:53.01 | *** part/#debian Nayruden (~nayruden@71-219-96-151.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 05:55.29 | *** join/#debian Rzz_Brzotrzz (~snowleopa@client-203-166-108-6.net2000.com.au) |
| 05:56.49 | *** join/#debian jwl (~jess@host86-132-183-102.range86-132.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:57.17 | anisfarhana | Off topic : Do you guys got something like , IT Asset Management system ? If yes , what software do you use ? |
| 05:57.29 | anisfarhana | prefers something like web-based software. |
| 05:59.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 881] by debhelper |
| 06:01.24 | *** join/#debian l1 (~l1@81-235-255-144-no24.business.telia.com) |
| 06:05.07 | *** part/#debian Rzz_Brzotrzz (~snowleopa@client-203-166-108-6.net2000.com.au) |
| 06:05.36 | *** part/#debian rpgdude (~user@2002:4576:37e6:0:215:afff:febc:d97c) |
| 06:05.54 | *** join/#debian X4Fly (~X4Fly@mnhm-4d00eb98.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 06:06.15 | *** join/#debian smv (smv@78.96.254.209) |
| 06:06.29 | *** join/#debian lorandka (~lori@82.79.27.25) |
| 06:07.01 | *** join/#debian Cullz (792cd622@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.44.214.34) |
| 06:09.26 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 06:10.00 | *** join/#debian Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@92.96.140.27) |
| 06:10.40 | *** part/#debian lorandka (~lori@82.79.27.25) |
| 06:11.11 | *** join/#debian dzup1 (~alex@unaffiliated/dzup) |
| 06:12.05 | *** join/#debian terrorpup (~terrorpup@65.166.136.4) |
| 06:12.05 | *** join/#debian terrorpup (~terrorpup@opensuse/member/terrorpup) |
| 06:19.54 | *** join/#debian Xanbreon (~xan@85.210.191.235) |
| 06:20.24 | *** join/#debian tsccof (~martin@201-35-149-161.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 06:20.49 | *** join/#debian yahya69 (~yahya69@p5DCE3CD0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:20.56 | *** part/#debian yahya69 (~yahya69@p5DCE3CD0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:23.53 | *** join/#debian naphex (~naphex@ANice-157-1-3-212.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:27.57 | *** join/#debian Arch_ (~alex@bas4-toronto47-1176149624.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 06:28.24 | *** join/#debian mariusv (~marius@salut.sblug.ro) |
| 06:28.36 | *** join/#debian LowKey (rhel@unaffiliated/lowkey) |
| 06:29.01 | Arch_ | For some reason other partitions are mounting themselves automatically even though I just commented out their fstab lines. When they are in the fstab file, they mount as I want them to but also they appear to be mounted a second time or something. They show up in my places list twice |
| 06:29.16 | Arch_ | What do I have to do to make them only show when I have their lines in the fstab file? |
| 06:31.41 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slvmecha@c-24-91-117-140.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 06:32.15 | *** join/#debian bombadil_rocks (~seamus@rpi-wl-64.dynamic.rpi.edu) |
| 06:36.13 | *** join/#debian alyur (~alyur@217.116.62.236) |
| 06:38.49 | *** join/#debian hero100era (~hero100er@220.189.206.226) |
| 06:40.33 | *** join/#debian peppe (~peppe@unaffiliated/peppe) |
| 06:46.54 | *** join/#debian shylent (~Ossory@unaffiliated/ossory) |
| 06:47.02 | *** join/#debian Bry-Dog (~Bry-Dog@76-10-150-237.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 06:49.18 | *** join/#debian WgAcOn (~admin@123.16.146.0) |
| 06:49.36 | *** join/#debian nuke- (nuke@sold.my.soul.to.the.devil.st) |
| 06:49.37 | *** join/#debian treefern (me@219-70-209-211.cable.dynamic.giga.net.tw) |
| 06:51.24 | *** join/#debian fanderal (~chatzilla@adsl-76-205-56-86.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:51.35 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 06:51.54 | *** join/#debian tsccof (~martin@201-15-188-25.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 06:52.41 | *** part/#debian bombadil_rocks (~seamus@rpi-wl-64.dynamic.rpi.edu) |
| 06:53.23 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 06:53.55 | ondrejk | Arch_: don't you use any automounter? |
| 06:54.11 | *** join/#debian ycas (~yann@85-127-249-40.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 06:54.34 | *** join/#debian quiritius (~quiritius@109.86.40.114) |
| 06:54.55 | Arch_ | ondrejk: I don't think so, I have just what is in my fstab as far as I know |
| 06:55.26 | Arch_ | ondrejk: I noticed that in nautilus, the extra entries show but if I gksudo nautilus it shows up exactly how I want it to |
| 06:56.21 | *** join/#debian sloopy (~sloopy@unaffiliated/sloopy) |
| 06:56.38 | Arch_ | ondrejk: There are no bookmarks in nautilus' bookmarks dialog |
| 06:56.42 | quiritius | hi. squeeze: today xsane no longer able to open a scanned picture in a multi-page project. just 100% CPU load (eog does not start even). anyone have this problem? |
| 06:56.52 | *** join/#debian mordocai (~mordocai@66.119.9.243) |
| 06:57.23 | quiritius | i mean xsane is not able to view or edit a scanned picture |
| 06:57.58 | *** join/#debian ungage (~a@dsl-fixed-94-30-53-26.interdsl.co.uk) |
| 06:58.14 | smacnay | xsane is supposed to scan an image - it isn't meant to view or edit (as far as I know). |
| 06:58.57 | quiritius | smacnay: exactly, but it calls eog to view an image. yesterday i was able to do it, not today. |
| 06:59.39 | smacnay | hmmm.... so xsane now calls eog to view a preview of an image that is to be scanned? |
| 06:59.42 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 07:01.03 | *** join/#debian rmarch (c26d1504@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.109.21.4) |
| 07:01.31 | *** join/#debian MrCoffee (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 07:01.33 | rmarch | Does anyone know what a rendezvous server is? |
| 07:01.33 | quiritius | smacnay: don't about preview. there is a button "view image" pressing which calls eog %(currenly selected image). it is in the multipage project pane. |
| 07:01.39 | *** join/#debian Deathvalley122 (~Death@71-83-245-138.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com) |
| 07:01.39 | *** join/#debian Deathvalley122 (~Death@unaffiliated/deathvalley122) |
| 07:02.10 | smacnay | ah, I am not sure why that is. |
| 07:03.03 | *** join/#debian Zword (~Zword@secteur7.org) |
| 07:03.21 | *** part/#debian fanderal (~chatzilla@adsl-76-205-56-86.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:03.28 | *** join/#debian dooglus (~dooglus@unaffiliated/dooglus) |
| 07:03.38 | quiritius | yes, funny thing is that yesterday there were no updates that could _apparently_ be suspect of this... bug, obviously. |
| 07:03.45 | *** join/#debian AlHafoudh (~AlHafoudh@adsl-dyn245.78-98-218.t-com.sk) |
| 07:04.21 | smacnay | quiritius, good luck - I hope it fixes itself. |
| 07:04.52 | quiritius | well, it scans all the same :) |
| 07:08.59 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@c114-76-23-136.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 07:09.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 887] by debhelper |
| 07:12.34 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 07:14.07 | *** join/#debian unitek (~user@113.132.183.203) |
| 07:14.12 | *** join/#debian Morten_ (~morten@fw2.nbi.dk) |
| 07:14.39 | *** part/#debian unitek (~user@113.132.183.203) |
| 07:15.20 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@93-32-173-168.ip34.fastwebnet.it) |
| 07:18.39 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-132-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:20.42 | *** join/#debian MadMare (~cart@pool-108-11-202-64.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 07:21.47 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 07:22.32 | *** join/#debian siriusnova (~Langley@ded.khan.su) |
| 07:22.49 | *** part/#debian MadMare (~cart@pool-108-11-202-64.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 07:22.59 | *** join/#debian r3r3 (~r3r3@178-83-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 07:23.00 | *** join/#debian ghisen (~ghisen@static-213-115-103-204.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 07:23.34 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@62.101.100.5) |
| 07:23.52 | *** join/#debian Bonham (~cart@pool-108-11-202-64.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 07:24.36 | *** join/#debian MadViking (~user@88.193.150.143) |
| 07:27.12 | *** join/#debian Welsh_Dwarf (~quassel@85-170-147-25.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 07:27.18 | *** part/#debian Arch_ (~alex@bas4-toronto47-1176149624.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 07:28.11 | *** join/#debian hartzie (~dominik@2001:638:708:10:21f:3cff:fe07:b19a) |
| 07:28.31 | *** join/#debian jelly (~jelly@164-62.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 07:29.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 895] by debhelper |
| 07:30.30 | *** join/#debian Boohemian (~Boohemian@209-6-67-222.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 07:31.59 | *** join/#debian Zhonghua (~john@nat/nokia/x-zbuazxyrtwhfleze) |
| 07:32.09 | *** join/#debian Vasistha (~david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 07:33.48 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 07:34.38 | Bartzy | Hi |
| 07:34.48 | *** join/#debian e-jones (~jkastner@nat/redhat/x-lecreyrbbxjifxfs) |
| 07:34.50 | Bartzy | I have a problem with debian + Intel integrated graphics |
| 07:35.13 | Bartzy | The laptop is using KMS, and that way I can't go to any mode without GUI... |
| 07:35.22 | *** join/#debian yang_ (yang@gNewSense.linuxshell.org) |
| 07:35.42 | *** part/#debian yang_ (yang@gNewSense.linuxshell.org) |
| 07:35.44 | Bartzy | Anyone knows a way to get to a console without GUI ? Alt+Ctrl+F1 stucks on black screen, putting 'single' or '1' in grub kernel line stucks on black screen.. |
| 07:36.09 | *** join/#debian Tommy_DO (~asdf@i53876AB1.versanet.de) |
| 07:37.01 | nope | Bartzy: take a look in inittab |
| 07:37.10 | nope | init 3 I think |
| 07:37.16 | f00li5h | Bartzy: try an external monitor |
| 07:37.55 | Bartzy | how can I remount a Read only ext3 filesystem ? |
| 07:37.58 | Bartzy | Why external monitor ? |
| 07:38.40 | nope | Bartzy: mount -o remount,rw / |
| 07:38.58 | Bartzy | nope: thanks. And changes I make will persist on next boot ? |
| 07:38.58 | *** join/#debian Tommy_DO (~asdf@i53876AB1.versanet.de) |
| 07:39.04 | nope | it should |
| 07:39.16 | Bartzy | I once had a problem where I remounted and changes didn't persist - why is that ? |
| 07:39.30 | nope | but I`d try to figure out why it mounts root as read-only though |
| 07:39.35 | *** join/#debian l1 (~l1@81-235-255-144-no24.business.telia.com) |
| 07:40.14 | Bartzy | Because I go up with init=/bin/bash |
| 07:40.25 | Bartzy | that's the only way I can get console access without gui :( |
| 07:40.46 | Bartzy | It's so annoying that Alt+Ctrl+F[1-6] doesn't work |
| 07:41.02 | *** join/#debian hebz0rl (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-222-215.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:41.29 | *** join/#debian xlotlu (~john@188.27.108.142) |
| 07:42.13 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@adsl-99-188-87-32.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:42.14 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 07:44.03 | *** join/#debian Youri (~youri@D4B29066.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 07:44.24 | *** join/#debian Bushmills1 (~Bushmills@scarydevilmonastery.net) |
| 07:46.11 | sep | Bartzy, tried setting the resolutino manually ? http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Framebuffer#With_Kernel_Mode_Setting |
| 07:46.15 | *** join/#debian MrFrood (~MrFrood@cpc3-hari10-0-0-cust591.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:46.43 | *** join/#debian joshsmith (~joshsmith@ip72-207-29-99.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 07:47.44 | sep | Bartzy, usualy you get black screen if your monitor does not support the resolution sent. an external monitor usualy is more tolerant then the built in on for different resolutions. that's "why external monitor" personally i would just try different resolutions via kernel boot until i found a suiteable one |
| 07:53.35 | *** join/#debian factorx (~asdf@i53876AB1.versanet.de) |
| 07:54.28 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@unaffiliated/daya) |
| 07:56.34 | factorx | Hi guys! I've got a problem booting with grub2 on squeeze. I had a Windows 7 partition recognized automatically by update-grub which was correctly added to grub.cfg, and usually it boots just fine. But if I attach a removable storage device (such as usb flash drive or phone) to the box, the Windows partition is unable to boot. grub just stalls then. Is this a bug or simply misconfiguration? |
| 07:56.48 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@162-127-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 07:57.29 | Bartzy | Thanks for your help sep. I'll try that. |
| 07:57.36 | *** join/#debian phaer (~user@chello080108090109.9.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 07:57.38 | Bartzy | how can I change resolutions via kernel boot ? |
| 08:00.32 | *** join/#debian samuray (~chatzilla@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) |
| 08:00.41 | samuray | I have been trying to use the "ID_PATH" (udev environment variable) in order to create a divice node, bit some how when my udev rule compares ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:04.1-usb-0:1.4:1.0", GOTO="test" it does not jump to tets label |
| 08:01.16 | samuray | I know the ID_PATH value is correct , because I add in my rules (ACTION="add", RUN+="/usr/bin/touch /tmp/%E{ID_PATH}" ) and it create the right file with the right name |
| 08:03.01 | Bartzy | sep: Got it... Can I somehow get different resolutions when going to tty1 ? |
| 08:04.01 | Bartzy | Cause this "video" kernel flag is only when I boot, but what if I do want to use the regular resolution (1366x768) of the laptop monitor (when in GUI), and once in a while go to tty1-6 (I don't care with what resolution.. just need console from time to time without gui, then get back to the gui) |
| 08:04.09 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a81-84-11-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 08:04.30 | *** join/#debian ramo102 (~ramo102@ppp-253-147.15-151.iol.it) |
| 08:04.55 | *** join/#debian joshsmith (~joshsmith@ip72-207-29-99.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 08:04.55 | *** join/#debian dels (~elsbroek@unaffiliated/dels) |
| 08:07.37 | *** join/#debian i5noc (~i5noc@2610:18:540:0:21d:9ff:fe95:c3af) |
| 08:08.47 | *** join/#debian arvind_k (~arvind@59.92.147.43) |
| 08:09.25 | *** join/#debian SlayerXP (~martin@olga.hinterlands.org) |
| 08:10.12 | bloodcry | ps aux |
| 08:10.18 | *** join/#debian Etch^ (~etch@static-dsl-31.213-160-165.telecom.sk) |
| 08:10.21 | bloodcry | heh |
| 08:10.30 | bloodcry | wrng window |
| 08:10.39 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~HellRaise@162-127-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 08:16.40 | *** join/#debian sarathms1 (~BOSINGH@183.83.199.142) |
| 08:17.03 | *** join/#debian xqueralt (~xqueralt@queralt.me) |
| 08:18.00 | *** join/#debian j4q8 (~jakub@188.40.151.172) |
| 08:18.54 | *** join/#debian krushik (~mayday@84.17.25.149) |
| 08:18.55 | *** join/#debian Dovid (~Dovid@96.242.61.139) |
| 08:19.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 903] by debhelper |
| 08:19.23 | *** part/#debian xqueralt (~xqueralt@queralt.me) |
| 08:19.35 | *** join/#debian xqueralt (~xqueralt@queralt.me) |
| 08:19.44 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-176.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 08:23.19 | *** part/#debian hero100era (~hero100er@220.189.206.226) |
| 08:24.51 | *** join/#debian nirazio (75ce5053@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.206.80.83) |
| 08:27.01 | nirazio | My blutooth is not started automatically after it wakes from hibernation.It is annoying to start it manually everytime..Is there any other option??? |
| 08:27.50 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (~ED@unaffiliated/charminthemoose) |
| 08:28.34 | *** join/#debian fnordperfect (~fab@dslb-092-075-201-043.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 08:28.36 | nirazio | Can anyone help??? |
| 08:31.57 | f00li5h | there are scripts that are run on power management events, i'm sure you can add bluetooth to that |
| 08:32.16 | *** join/#debian CrashFr (~CrashFr@sto93-2-82-228-142-248.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:35.25 | *** join/#debian wieshka (~wieshka@85.31.102.169) |
| 08:39.00 | *** join/#debian alteregoa (~dude@80-218-136-229.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 08:39.45 | *** join/#debian krion (~seb@unaffiliated/krion) |
| 08:41.04 | *** join/#debian Myztik (~Myztik@90-231-233-158-no109.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 08:41.10 | *** join/#debian Chelsea (~Chelsea@a82-93-179-135.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 08:42.28 | *** join/#debian j4q8 (~jakub@188.40.151.172) |
| 08:43.05 | *** join/#debian Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 08:46.22 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (biggi_mat@193.2.116.180) |
| 08:46.26 | *** join/#debian dmilith (~dmilith@fiend.pl) |
| 08:46.43 | dmilith | hi. How to know who is maintainer of postgresql-8.3 package in lenny? |
| 08:47.14 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@212.27.204.94) |
| 08:47.14 | *** join/#debian j4q8 (~jakub@188.40.151.172) |
| 08:47.43 | *** join/#debian marienjoanny (~marienjoa@78.125.172.203) |
| 08:48.07 | dmilith | ok have one |
| 08:49.00 | *** join/#debian bolt-work (~bolt@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 08:50.24 | *** join/#debian terranova (~terranova@djq80.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 08:50.42 | *** join/#debian Azrael_- (~awef@p4FFF645B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:51.04 | *** join/#debian terranova (~terranova@djq80.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 08:52.35 | *** join/#debian limidth (~dmilith@fiend.pl) |
| 08:53.40 | *** join/#debian musolinoa (~alex@fedora/musolinoa) |
| 08:54.12 | *** join/#debian ttiicc (~ttiicc200@static-213-115-74-170.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 08:55.05 | *** join/#debian NurIch_ (~NurIch_@137.226.154.136) |
| 08:55.27 | *** join/#debian NurIch_ (~NurIch_@137.226.154.136) |
| 08:56.41 | *** join/#debian hamid (~hamid@unaffiliated/negboy) |
| 08:56.56 | *** join/#debian NurIch_ (~NurIch_@137.226.154.136) |
| 08:59.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 912] by debhelper |
| 08:59.01 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 08:59.02 | dmilith | ok better question: how to find out with which options postgresql-8.3 was compiled with? |
| 09:01.51 | *** join/#debian mariusv (~marius@salut.sblug.ro) |
| 09:02.06 | *** join/#debian verwilst (~verwilst@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) |
| 09:02.29 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5DDFDE8E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:02.59 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 09:03.55 | *** join/#debian nuke- (nuke@sold.my.soul.to.the.devil.st) |
| 09:04.06 | *** join/#debian ayanes (~ayanes@nat/nokia/x-vehhrcpkenhiesdh) |
| 09:04.06 | *** join/#debian ayanes (~ayanes@unaffiliated/ayanes) |
| 09:04.14 | *** join/#debian debianer (~user@124.230.16.155) |
| 09:05.18 | *** join/#debian spaceninja (~spaceninj@81-231-178-251-no44.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 09:06.00 | *** join/#debian ycas (~yann@84.114.50.173) |
| 09:06.08 | *** join/#debian jazz (~rev_jazz_@hyperion.ups-tlse.fr) |
| 09:06.32 | *** join/#debian preller (~preller@unaffiliated/preller) |
| 09:08.04 | spaceninja | Im trying to install a program which wants to do this in the installation script. ln -s $INSTALL_DIR/personal/libplugins.so /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins. How should I translate the /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins to iceweasel? |
| 09:10.44 | *** join/#debian unon (~unon@ppp-95-130.98-62.inwind.it) |
| 09:13.55 | *** join/#debian X4Fly (~X4Fly@mnhm-4d019694.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 09:15.54 | *** join/#debian bolt-work (~bolt@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 09:17.03 | *** join/#debian rsteele (~steve@host86-173-54-218.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:19.30 | *** join/#debian pif (~ldm@zenon.apartia.fr) |
| 09:19.56 | blast_hardcheese | spaceninja: ~/.mozilla/plugins/ maybe? |
| 09:20.24 | *** join/#debian musolinoa (~alex@CPE-144-137-196-134.lns3.fli.bigpond.net.au) |
| 09:20.24 | *** join/#debian musolinoa (~alex@fedora/musolinoa) |
| 09:20.49 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~hXm@52.Red-88-19-199.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:21.02 | *** join/#debian zerodeux (~zerodeux@bearstech/zerodeux) |
| 09:21.05 | *** join/#debian dekar_ (~dekar@95.143.165.210) |
| 09:22.04 | *** join/#debian debianer` (~user@124.230.16.155) |
| 09:22.46 | *** join/#debian Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@ner-as38507.alshamil.net.ae) |
| 09:24.07 | *** join/#debian LegolasV (~whoeiii35@kde/developer/sverberkt) |
| 09:24.50 | debianer` | 请é®è¿æ¯ä¸æ¯ä¸ªé误ï¼scimå¨chromeéè¾å
¥åï¼å¦ææäºä¸æ¬¡å é¤é®ï¼å°±ä¸è½è¾å
¥äº |
| 09:25.02 | *** join/#debian Belthazor (~Belthazor@lestat.ip-technologies.hu) |
| 09:25.12 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 09:25.51 | *** join/#debian nuke- (nuke@sold.my.soul.to.the.devil.st) |
| 09:27.10 | *** join/#debian zwamkat (~zwamkat@mailserver.rtvutrecht.nl) |
| 09:28.18 | collabra | !cn |
| 09:28.18 | dpkg | cn is probably China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
| 09:29.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 918] by debhelper |
| 09:29.59 | *** join/#debian Ikoa (62b41b36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.180.27.54) |
| 09:30.17 | *** join/#debian grandmoun (~piliman@encyclo014701-1-4.clients.easynet.fr) |
| 09:30.31 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@84-119-55-166.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 09:31.25 | *** join/#debian bolt-work (~bolt@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 09:34.44 | *** join/#debian erez (~erez@mailx.primegaming.com) |
| 09:34.59 | *** join/#debian Acwb (~Acwb@ip565f4feb.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 09:38.05 | *** join/#debian pfui (~jack@41.239.150.215) |
| 09:38.15 | *** join/#debian johntramp (~john@222-154-145-187.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 09:38.35 | *** join/#debian tux33 (~tux@unaffiliated/tux33) |
| 09:38.42 | *** join/#debian c0nfl|ct (~tiagrei@83.240.134.68) |
| 09:39.15 | *** join/#debian zerohero (~zerohero@84-217-140-125.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 09:41.20 | pfui | i get momentary screen artifacts on boot-up or when i run xinit from the terminal, what could be the cause? |
| 09:41.43 | pfui | running debian squeeze and using the open-source radeon driver |
| 09:42.52 | *** join/#debian solidstate (~foxtrot@c-71-197-6-78.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 09:43.25 | solidstate | anyone know of a linux/debian based entertainment center PC |
| 09:43.38 | solidstate | i.e. a workstation with TV as monitor |
| 09:44.21 | *** join/#debian manio (~mariusz@87-207-14-70.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 09:44.34 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@193.204.22.96) |
| 09:44.35 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@unaffiliated/madi) |
| 09:44.36 | *** join/#debian Bhavic (~bhavicp@203-173-232-188.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 09:45.34 | *** join/#debian satellit__MacAir (~satellit_@208-100-149-231.bendbroadband.com) |
| 09:45.43 | *** join/#debian tempeldirne (~L@client-203-190.swh.uni-giessen.de) |
| 09:47.14 | *** join/#debian misnix (~jkr@corona.xs4all.nl) |
| 09:48.11 | *** join/#debian FallOnMe (~jelly@lan.iskon.hr) |
| 09:48.23 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@cuscon81562.tstt.net.tt) |
| 09:48.54 | reavengrey | Whoa, 914 nicks...that's over 900 nicks... |
| 09:49.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 929] by debhelper |
| 09:50.15 | FallOnMe | reavengrey: +1 point for basic algebra knowledge; -1 point for propagating old jokes |
| 09:50.23 | reavengrey | :( |
| 09:50.34 | *** join/#debian acemi (~acemi@unaffiliated/acemi) |
| 09:51.07 | c0nfl|ct | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:51.24 | *** join/#debian jelly-hme (~jelly@164-62.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 09:52.18 | *** join/#debian Toony (~anthony@mail.aliasource.fr) |
| 09:52.24 | *** join/#debian resmo (~moserre@xdsl-188-155-134-47.adslplus.ch) |
| 09:55.18 | *** join/#debian dfkjjkfd (~paulh@145.120.22.20) |
| 09:57.29 | *** join/#debian krisfremen (~Kris@72-28-133-229-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) |
| 09:57.29 | *** join/#debian krisfremen (~Kris@unaffiliated/krisfremen) |
| 09:58.02 | *** join/#debian mbruins (~user@178.21.113.139) |
| 10:00.26 | *** join/#debian sativouf (~sativouf@LRouen-152-83-23-73.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:01.28 | *** join/#debian brotakku (~brotakku@178.3.243.186) |
| 10:01.47 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 10:02.20 | *** join/#debian MattB_ (~Matthew@cpe-024-074-043-004.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 10:02.52 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 10:06.57 | *** join/#debian CodeNinja (~gaintsura@clients.devnetonline.net) |
| 10:08.15 | *** join/#debian rubberDukx (~rubby@168.144.99.122) |
| 10:09.00 | *** join/#debian kurkale6ka (~chatzilla@gatej.mh.bbc.co.uk) |
| 10:09.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 935] by debhelper |
| 10:10.31 | *** join/#debian ctnsrkn (~ctnsrkn@95.8.41.49) |
| 10:11.04 | *** join/#debian daemonkeeper (~arno@unaffiliated/metalfoo) |
| 10:14.11 | *** join/#debian homie` (~user@xdsl-78-35-172-3.netcologne.de) |
| 10:14.48 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 10:17.21 | *** join/#debian g0bl1n (~g0bl1n@a213-22-18-58.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 10:18.26 | *** join/#debian joshsmith (~joshsmith@ip72-207-29-99.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 10:19.21 | *** join/#debian Guest_025685 (~Guest_025@server.nowhere-else.org) |
| 10:19.32 | *** part/#debian Guest_025685 (~Guest_025@server.nowhere-else.org) |
| 10:21.10 | *** join/#debian Guest10045 (~jkhu@41.155.67.59) |
| 10:23.04 | *** join/#debian ov3rmind (~somebody@20158209163.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 10:23.32 | *** join/#debian ov3rmind (~somebody@unaffiliated/ov3rmind) |
| 10:25.40 | *** join/#debian saintiss (~saintiss@143.129.75.18) |
| 10:26.20 | ov3rmind | hello debian friends ! |
| 10:27.15 | *** join/#debian l1 (~l1@81-235-255-144-no24.business.telia.com) |
| 10:27.19 | *** join/#debian wertik_any (~wertik@212.57.108.204) |
| 10:27.28 | ali3n0 | hi ov3rmind |
| 10:27.44 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 10:28.35 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@dhcp172-156-red.yandex.net) |
| 10:29.32 | *** join/#debian zcat[1] (~zcat@ip-118-90-39-3.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) |
| 10:30.27 | RichiH | hmm, can i re-read my hostname globally without rebooting? |
| 10:30.50 | *** join/#debian Roma_39m (~mirc@93-40-130-141.ip38.fastwebnet.it) |
| 10:31.01 | ali3n0 | RichiH, have a look at /etc/init.d/hostname I think I did once |
| 10:31.09 | *** join/#debian bint (bint@cable-static-41-71.intergga.ch) |
| 10:31.34 | *** join/#debian f8l (~f8l@77-255-18-167.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 10:32.42 | *** join/#debian qqwwqqww (~qqwwqqww@41.155.67.59) |
| 10:33.40 | *** join/#debian Dunkan_Aidaho (~aidaho@4-22-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 10:33.46 | RichiH | ali3n0: oh, nice |
| 10:33.46 | RichiH | thanks |
| 10:34.13 | *** join/#debian jayeola (~user@ldn-office.youdevise.com) |
| 10:34.41 | ali3n0 | be careful, there's few places I'm aware of you should update the hostname too, for example postfix main.cf if you use it. check out /etc/hosts too |
| 10:35.41 | iceroot | is there a way to execute a cron-script in /etc/cron.d/ by hand? for a strange reason cron is not executing all jobs in that list. i guess its a escaping-problem but i dont want to edit all the entries by hand and wait untill cron is doing the job. so maybe there is a way to execute such a file with a command? |
| 10:36.49 | RichiH | iceroot: just copy it to a shell and execute it |
| 10:37.36 | *** join/#debian krisfremen (~Kris@unaffiliated/krisfremen) |
| 10:37.43 | *** part/#debian bloodcry (~bloodcry@pub-gateway01.sopt.xl12.net) |
| 10:37.58 | iceroot | RichiH: then * * * * * root is not executed maybe there is an error in the time or user-part but ok, you are right, exdecuting the commands directly is maybe the best way, normally the error is in such a command |
| 10:38.39 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 10:39.35 | RichiH | iceroot: just run it as whatever user the cron is configured for |
| 10:39.49 | *** join/#debian josep_ (~josep_@120.Red-95-121-146.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:39.58 | *** join/#debian bloodcry (~bloodcry@pub-gateway01.sopt.xl12.net) |
| 10:41.12 | *** join/#debian stockholm (~andreas@johannes.schuldei.org) |
| 10:41.20 | *** join/#debian lanthan_afh (~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:41.31 | *** join/#debian Guest10045 (~jkhu@41.155.67.59) |
| 10:41.39 | *** join/#debian speekix (~roberto@94.163.81.182) |
| 10:43.59 | *** part/#debian dmilith (~dmilith@fiend.pl) |
| 10:44.49 | iceroot | RichiH: every line is running fine but cron is even not starting any of the cron-jobs |
| 10:44.58 | *** join/#debian nuke- (nuke@sold.my.soul.to.the.devil.st) |
| 10:45.04 | iceroot | and every line seems correctly with * * * * * root |
| 10:45.31 | iceroot | so i need something like cron /etc/cron.d/foobar |
| 10:46.34 | *** join/#debian dont_hit_idiots (dont_hit_i@c-76-21-50-244.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:46.35 | *** join/#debian lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@178.128.8.13.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 10:46.48 | *** join/#debian fas3r (~fas3r@212.51.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 10:47.00 | *** join/#debian fi9o (~fi9o@unaffiliated/fi9o) |
| 10:48.34 | acemi | iceroot: grep CRON /var/log/syslog |
| 10:49.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 942] by debhelper |
| 10:49.12 | iceroot | cron[20688]: Error: bad minute; thanks |
| 10:50.04 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 10:55.39 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 10:57.58 | *** join/#debian Zambezi (Zulu@unaffiliated/zambezi) |
| 10:59.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 936] by debhelper |
| 11:00.40 | spaceninja | blast_hardcheese, it worked after I created the folder plugins and changed it to: ln -s /usr/local/lib/personal/libplugins.so /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/ |
| 11:00.49 | *** join/#debian Italian_Plumber (~Italian_P@adsl-074-236-202-005.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 11:01.08 | *** join/#debian xand (xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) |
| 11:02.33 | *** join/#debian gr0gmint (~quassel@87.60.23.38) |
| 11:03.03 | *** join/#debian patterson (patterson@c-76-21-50-244.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 11:03.15 | *** join/#debian Dunedan (~dunedan@phoenitydawn.de) |
| 11:05.34 | *** join/#debian lanthan_afh (~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:08.54 | *** join/#debian emachado (~edjunior@fsf/member/emachado) |
| 11:09.44 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 11:11.13 | *** join/#debian pawelpaja (~holicy.pl@dynamic-78-8-4-26.ssp.dialog.net.pl) |
| 11:12.31 | *** join/#debian marienjoanny (~marienjoa@78.114.234.190) |
| 11:12.39 | *** join/#debian the_dark_warrio (~ian@lgcnatdados.cepetro.unicamp.br) |
| 11:13.29 | the_dark_warrio | Do you use version control systems when packaging? How you do it? |
| 11:14.45 | *** join/#debian Yancho (~Matt@unaffiliated/yancho) |
| 11:16.41 | dgram | does anyone here have exp with flowd? I installed it and all seems well, but no data gets logged.. i find similar threads by google but they go unanswered |
| 11:17.50 | dgram | there was a hint regarding the switch template timeout rate, which i've set to 5 mins.. still no go |
| 11:19.40 | *** join/#debian datacrusher (~datacrush@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 11:20.02 | *** join/#debian razieliyo (~razieliyo@105.Red-83-54-31.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:20.41 | razieliyo | wenas |
| 11:20.45 | razieliyo | una pregunta |
| 11:20.52 | razieliyo | hace tiempo usaba un traductor por consola |
| 11:20.58 | razieliyo | sorry |
| 11:21.03 | razieliyo | I was talking in spanish |
| 11:21.16 | *** join/#debian f00li5h (~f00li5h@unaffiliated/f00li5h) |
| 11:21.44 | razieliyo | i mean, I used to use a translator for debian, launched by command, some like "mytrans -x en-es 'bla bla bla'" |
| 11:21.50 | razieliyo | but I don't remember which was it |
| 11:22.34 | *** join/#debian fas3r (~fas3r@212.51.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 11:23.51 | dgram | might be apertium-en-es |
| 11:23.51 | *** join/#debian superjet_busy (~superjet@wikimedia/Crewlay) |
| 11:24.45 | razieliyo | maybe |
| 11:24.56 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.43.14.39) |
| 11:25.22 | dgram | Respuesta correcta? |
| 11:25.30 | dgram | dont know how to build it into xchat but seems right |
| 11:25.49 | *** join/#debian danzos (89de6630@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.222.102.48) |
| 11:25.59 | danzos | hi all |
| 11:26.01 | razieliyo | dgram, efectivamente, respuesta correcta |
| 11:26.27 | razieliyo | dgram, I was not going to use it in xchat, but it's useful when I don't know some expression or word in english |
| 11:27.05 | *** join/#debian hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) |
| 11:27.05 | dgram | yeah, i'm the one who wants it into xchat, it would be fun with a babelfish-mode |
| 11:27.35 | danzos | I have a problem with the connection. In my house it work but here in the university doesn t. Here there is a non protected connection. Do you know how can I check what s wrong with it? |
| 11:27.39 | razieliyo | it would be really nice |
| 11:28.09 | *** join/#debian ping-pang (~west@93-50-78-8.ip151.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:28.31 | razieliyo | danzos, in my university, you have to connect the public connection and then, open a browser and log in |
| 11:28.37 | razieliyo | maybe yours is like that |
| 11:29.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 944] by debhelper |
| 11:29.01 | danzos | razieliyo: yes but it doesn t connect.. |
| 11:29.29 | razieliyo | danzos, what browser are you using? |
| 11:29.40 | razieliyo | I ask you that because I just can connect with firefox |
| 11:29.51 | razieliyo | to the log in |
| 11:29.56 | danzos | chrome but it-s not the browser the problem |
| 11:30.05 | *** join/#debian simonrvn (simon@197.112-ppp.3menatwork.com) |
| 11:30.06 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e}|w (~qwe2@93.85.62.151) |
| 11:30.06 | razieliyo | danzos, ok ok, so I don't know |
| 11:30.13 | danzos | the problem is that it says: atempitng to join the wireless network XXX |
| 11:30.19 | razieliyo | dgram, reddo was the translator I was looking for |
| 11:30.34 | danzos | it tries but after some seconds it says: no network connection |
| 11:30.49 | danzos | razieliyo: thank you anyway :) |
| 11:31.01 | *** join/#debian homie (~user@xdsl-78-35-172-3.netcologne.de) |
| 11:31.38 | razieliyo | danzos, that always is problem with the dns or the network manager, but I don't really know what to say |
| 11:31.43 | *** part/#debian ping-pang (~west@93-50-78-8.ip151.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:32.06 | *** join/#debian kkady32 (~kkady32@unaffiliated/kkady32) |
| 11:32.25 | pfui | i get momentary screen artifacts on boot-up before the display manager kicks in, what could be the cause? |
| 11:32.27 | razieliyo | danzos, can window users connect it? |
| 11:32.57 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 11:33.00 | razieliyo | pfui, graphic drivers? |
| 11:33.04 | danzos | razieliyo: yes |
| 11:33.05 | s1gnius | How can i tell what version of Lame my debian lenny box is using ? |
| 11:33.11 | pfui | razieliyo, open-source radeon |
| 11:33.14 | danzos | razieliyo: on windows 7 I can |
| 11:33.34 | razieliyo | pfui, I mean, that that artifacts can be caused by the graphic drivers |
| 11:33.46 | pfui | oh, lol |
| 11:34.06 | razieliyo | pfui, I get something weird too when my nvidia drivers get loaded |
| 11:34.11 | pfui | razieliyo, well they're the latest drivers in the repos, do they need manual configuration? |
| 11:34.13 | dgram | danzos: college tech support? |
| 11:34.20 | dgram | uni rather |
| 11:34.36 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000) |
| 11:34.40 | razieliyo | pfui, but what do you mean with artifacts? do they disappear after splashing in? |
| 11:34.44 | danzos | dgram: already tried.. they don t know why.. |
| 11:35.01 | pfui | razieliyo, yep, they only appear for a second or two |
| 11:35.21 | pfui | razieliyo, it's just a bunch of horizontal lines with weird colors, but i don't like it |
| 11:35.45 | razieliyo | danzos, there's never support for linux at universities, that really sucks, sometimes you have to be something like a hacker to join in university wifi, bleh |
| 11:36.22 | danzos | razieliyo: yep :D damn windows |
| 11:36.42 | razieliyo | pfui, I got something like that with nvidia drivers, I just can say that, but I don't really remember if I did something to "delete" them |
| 11:36.51 | razieliyo | pfui, but does that gives you any problem? |
| 11:36.56 | *** part/#debian kkady32 (~kkady32@unaffiliated/kkady32) |
| 11:36.58 | pfui | razieliyo, not at all |
| 11:37.23 | pfui | razieliyo, but it's bothersome, gives the impression that something's not working right |
| 11:37.42 | razieliyo | pfui, yes, that's what it makes you think |
| 11:37.47 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 11:37.50 | pfui | yep |
| 11:37.57 | *** part/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@cuscon81562.tstt.net.tt) |
| 11:38.03 | razieliyo | pfui, think if you have done something or updated something last days |
| 11:38.14 | razieliyo | maybe something has changed your configuration |
| 11:38.16 | pfui | razieliyo, it's a clean install |
| 11:38.21 | razieliyo | oh, I see |
| 11:38.50 | razieliyo | pfui, maybe you know more of linux than me |
| 11:39.06 | razieliyo | the other day I read something here with a guy who was having problem with X |
| 11:39.55 | pfui | razieliyo, that couldn't possibly be true. i'm a newbie that runs sid for the learning experience he gets from fixing things after they break :D |
| 11:39.58 | razieliyo | somebody told him to rename the xorg.conf to xorg.conf.auwhasdf for example, and let the system make is own configuration |
| 11:40.17 | razieliyo | pfui, that really rules |
| 11:40.28 | razieliyo | pfui, but it's amazing how this has changed |
| 11:40.50 | razieliyo | a few years ago, I tried to install debian and it could take about a few days |
| 11:41.10 | razieliyo | last time I installed debian, it took about a few hours, things are going pretty well |
| 11:41.35 | pfui | razieliyo, very true |
| 11:41.39 | razieliyo | graphic drivers were really a pain in the ass |
| 11:41.55 | pfui | actually debian has some pretty good documentation that just work for newbies |
| 11:42.03 | razieliyo | pfui, yes, it does |
| 11:42.13 | dgram | i run a uni net here, and windows clients are the troublesome ones |
| 11:42.15 | *** join/#debian snow_man_ (~nou@97-81-251-38.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) |
| 11:42.34 | s1gnius | Nvidia Linux drivers are way better than AMD/Ati in my experience and also i run CUDA stuff also thats another plus |
| 11:42.35 | dgram | atleast i thought wifi/auth issues was a thing of the past in linux.. with a modern distro it should just work |
| 11:43.04 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Hello! I want to keep the default locale en_US.UTF-8 but to set my user locale ja_JP.UTF-8 . How can I do those? |
| 11:43.05 | razieliyo | pfui, the last thing it still is beating me out is udev |
| 11:43.08 | s1gnius | But you have the closed src nature of Nvidia Drivers as an issue |
| 11:43.20 | pfui | razieliyo, what's wrong with udev? |
| 11:43.30 | razieliyo | pfui, I don't really know how to use it at all |
| 11:43.39 | razieliyo | I used it a few days ago for the first time |
| 11:43.46 | razieliyo | but it works mounting it manually |
| 11:43.56 | razieliyo | so I don't really care too much |
| 11:44.28 | pfui | shouldn't hal do all the automounting? |
| 11:44.36 | *** part/#debian sarathms1 (~BOSINGH@183.83.199.142) |
| 11:44.50 | pfui | or more appropriately, notify some volume manager and let the later do the automounting |
| 11:45.05 | razieliyo | pfui, do you mean hal instead of udev? |
| 11:45.14 | razieliyo | or is hal something related with udev? |
| 11:45.45 | razieliyo | I don't really know what hal is |
| 11:45.45 | pfui | afaik, and i'm no expert on this, you could do automounting by writing rules manually for udev |
| 11:46.00 | pfui | or you could use hal + a volume manager and let it do that |
| 11:46.03 | *** join/#debian cornelinux (~koelbel@188.107.71.229) |
| 11:46.22 | pfui | it's supposed to be some sort of system daemon that listens for hardware events and notifies other running programs |
| 11:46.24 | *** join/#debian swellie (~swellie@ip68-11-220-167.br.br.cox.net) |
| 11:46.48 | razieliyo | pfui, I'll try to run the udev rules |
| 11:47.21 | *** join/#debian chanfu (~chanfu@unaffiliated/mota/bot/chanfu) |
| 11:47.38 | pfui | razieliyo, what are you trying to mount exactly? |
| 11:47.50 | razieliyo | an external HD |
| 11:48.24 | pfui | iirc, the problem with writing udev rules is that they're dependent on the hardware id or something, so you need to write a different rule for every device |
| 11:48.49 | pfui | running gnome? |
| 11:48.53 | *** join/#debian xand (xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) |
| 11:49.18 | razieliyo | pfui, icewm |
| 11:49.53 | *** join/#debian l1 (~l1@81-235-255-144-no24.business.telia.com) |
| 11:50.06 | pfui | razieliyo, try installing thunar and thunar-volman |
| 11:50.29 | pfui | thunar volman handles the automounting part |
| 11:50.31 | razieliyo | isn't it for xfce? |
| 11:50.43 | pfui | and it's lighter than gnome-volume-manager as far as i know |
| 11:50.54 | pfui | it is, but it wont pull in the whole of xfce |
| 11:51.03 | razieliyo | but sometimes I don't use X, so I'll try to take the udev running |
| 11:51.13 | razieliyo | the next choice will be thunar, thank you really! |
| 11:51.40 | razieliyo | by the way, does anyone use delicious? |
| 11:51.44 | pfui | in that case you'll want to look into autofs5 |
| 11:51.47 | *** join/#debian G_O_D (~marco@host230.190-138-9.telecom.net.ar) |
| 11:51.47 | pfui | np, really! :D |
| 11:52.28 | razieliyo | I installed delicious plugin for iceweasel, but somehow it went out |
| 11:52.36 | razieliyo | wait, now it's working again |
| 11:52.42 | razieliyo | kinda weird |
| 11:52.53 | razieliyo | must be ghosts inside my computer |
| 11:54.22 | Emmanuel_Chanel | Solved. I set .profile and deleted .bash_profile . |
| 11:55.10 | *** join/#debian lanthan_afh_ (~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:55.24 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~dunc@212-123-143-144.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 11:55.24 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~dunc@unaffiliated/shadow/x-2691444) |
| 11:57.34 | *** join/#debian l1 (~l1@81-235-255-144-no24.business.telia.com) |
| 11:57.58 | hamid | How many rc bugs have left in debian/ |
| 11:58.00 | hamid | ? |
| 11:58.06 | acemi | ~220 |
| 11:58.06 | apt | well, 220 is good |
| 11:58.44 | jelly | !rc bugs |
| 11:58.45 | dpkg | Release-Critical bugs are Debian bugs with critical, grave or serious severities, preventing the next release of Debian. See the graph at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ or the lists at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/all.html http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=squeeze&patch=ign&pending=ign&merged=ign&done=ign&rc=1 http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php . See also <rc-alert>. |
| 11:59.02 | hamid | yeah. then do you guess when will be the next official release? |
| 11:59.30 | jelly | !wir |
| 11:59.30 | dpkg | it has been said that wir is When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>. |
| 11:59.31 | acemi | 14 feb at 23:30 |
| 11:59.56 | jelly | acemi: I see you've omitted the year. |
| 11:59.56 | *** join/#debian Biganon (~biganon@ks23183.kimsufi.com) |
| 12:00.13 | *** join/#debian Little^John (LJ@50C5882F.flatrate.dk) |
| 12:00.18 | acemi | :) |
| 12:00.26 | *** join/#debian Trevelyan (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/trevelyan) |
| 12:00.38 | Biganon | Hi, while I can set a locale for one user putting "export LANG=..." in its .bashrc, I can't figure out how to make it system-wide |
| 12:00.40 | hamid | really? or you're kidding?! |
| 12:00.50 | Biganon | I'd like to set the system-wide locale |
| 12:00.57 | *** part/#debian Little^John (LJ@50C5882F.flatrate.dk) |
| 12:00.59 | jelly | hamid: no, it _really_ is When It's Ready |
| 12:01.21 | jelly | Biganon: /msg dpkg locale |
| 12:01.24 | Biganon | mainly for www-data to use it |
| 12:01.50 | *** join/#debian adrian15 (~adrian15@43.Red-88-9-202.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:02.11 | hamid | jelly, I know debian always was like this. but i just want you to guess. |
| 12:02.29 | jelly | hamid: I don't want to guess. |
| 12:02.37 | hamid | jelly, thanks ;) |
| 12:02.52 | Trevelyan | Hi, I wanted to install phpmyadmin 3.3 on my lenny system. Since its not in backports and is anyway just in PHP. I used the squeeze package with dpkg. Howerver apt/dpkg have this complaint "libjs-mootools (>= 1.2.4.0~debian1-1) but 1.2.4.0~debian1-1~bpo50+1 is installed" which to me makes no sense |
| 12:03.04 | *** join/#debian XThief (~XThief@177.Red-83-32-239.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:03.18 | jelly | hamid: if you want to see some guesses, /msg dpkg squeeze pool 1, and /msg dpkg squeeze pool 2 |
| 12:03.29 | Trevelyan | I tried dpkg --force-depends and everything runs fine, however apt-get no long wants to do anything until it removes phpmyadmin =( |
| 12:04.00 | SPF | Trevelyan: I would try, download the tar and extract it to your wwwroot folder |
| 12:04.42 | *** join/#debian Italian_Plumber1 (~Italian_P@h128.96.82.166.static.ip.windstream.net) |
| 12:04.48 | Trevelyan | I very much liked debconf doing the db setup and such for me |
| 12:04.54 | *** join/#debian ventsislav (~ventsisla@89-215-167-209.2073302084.ddns-lan.lom.ekk.bg) |
| 12:04.59 | *** join/#debian speekix (~roberto@94.163.81.182) |
| 12:05.26 | *** join/#debian swellie (~swellie@ip68-11-220-167.br.br.cox.net) |
| 12:05.27 | jelly | Trevelyan: instead of force-depends, you could have repacked that package with adapted dependencies. |
| 12:05.37 | hamid | jelly, thanks. etch was a little surprising but squeeze needs more debugging :) |
| 12:05.38 | *** join/#debian lumines (~lumines-f@p508EFE0F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:05.42 | *** join/#debian Billtoo (~bill@bas4-unionville55-1176015949.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 12:05.53 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:06.09 | *** join/#debian derchris (~derchris@78-86-128-162.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 12:06.30 | *** join/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.114) |
| 12:06.42 | Trevelyan | jelly I might just do that. Why does apt not think "1.2.4.0~debian1-1~bpo50+1" is superior (>=) than "1.2.4.0~debian1-1"? I would say its a higher version |
| 12:07.20 | jelly | Trevelyan: ~ denotes a slightly lower version, useful to get 1.0~rc1 lower than 1.0 |
| 12:07.26 | *** part/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.114) |
| 12:07.41 | *** join/#debian alyur (~alyur@217.116.62.236) |
| 12:08.31 | Trevelyan | so setting the dependancy to >= 1.2.4.0~debian1-1~0 should do? |
| 12:09.00 | *** join/#debian Niamor (~niamor590@boi59-1-87-88-205-89.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 12:09.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 952] by debhelper |
| 12:09.06 | jelly | Trevelyan: yes. If you don't want to repack, the simplest (and the dirtiest) workaround at this point is to carefully edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and replace that dependency part with libjs-mootools (>= 1.2.4.0~debian1-1~bpo50+1) |
| 12:09.30 | jelly | Trevelyan: of course, editing the dpkg database is a risky thing |
| 12:11.24 | adrian15 | Hi. I am trying to setup the Touchpad fro the new 2008 unibody Mackbook and Macbook Pro. I have used the instructions given here: http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Touchpadforthenew2008unibodyMacbookandMacbookPro (using default debian dkms and using proposed ubuntu dkms). It always fails to build. Error is about: usb_hid not finding some kernel symbols . Does any one knows how to fix this? |
| 12:11.49 | *** join/#debian Hut (~ubuser@84.113.162.46) |
| 12:12.09 | Trevelyan | jelly i set it to 1.2.4.0~debian1-1~0 in dpkg/status and all seems fine. thank you |
| 12:12.13 | adrian15 | I am using Debian Unstable updated from yesterday and kernel is: 2.6.32-5-amd64. Thank you very much. |
| 12:12.13 | *** join/#debian Luthenis (~javier@229.Red-80-25-197.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:13.36 | *** part/#debian Biganon (~biganon@ks23183.kimsufi.com) |
| 12:13.58 | *** join/#debian Batchy (~batchy@AVelizy-155-1-8-47.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:14.19 | *** join/#debian E-bola (~bola@188.120.76.228) |
| 12:14.20 | *** join/#debian siriusly (~Langley@62.120.104.115) |
| 12:14.44 | razieliyo | udev is getting some good color |
| 12:14.49 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 12:20.03 | *** join/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.114) |
| 12:20.19 | *** join/#debian joeytwiddle (~joey@cpc4-aztw4-0-0-cust207.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:20.37 | *** part/#debian hamid (~hamid@unaffiliated/negboy) |
| 12:20.57 | *** join/#debian flypp (~flypp@235.pool85-57-65.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 12:21.38 | E-bola | Do anybody know if there are any log patterns or similar you can search for to see if your exim have been abused by the recent exploit? |
| 12:22.16 | *** join/#debian e-jones (~jkastner@nat/redhat/x-txtfwarmwypyhqfv) |
| 12:24.18 | *** join/#debian siriusnova (~Langley@ded.khan.su) |
| 12:24.22 | *** join/#debian agney (~agney@201008197162.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 12:24.22 | *** join/#debian agney (~agney@debian/developer/agney) |
| 12:25.20 | s1gnius | How can i tell what version of Lame debian lenny is using |
| 12:26.13 | *** join/#debian cusco (~tralala@49.192.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 12:28.40 | razieliyo | OU YEAH |
| 12:28.42 | razieliyo | UDEV WORKS |
| 12:29.30 | razieliyo | s1gnius, type lame |
| 12:29.59 | *** join/#debian pif (~ldm@zenon.apartia.fr) |
| 12:30.25 | razieliyo | s1gnius, I get this http://pastebin.com/7b85rw9N |
| 12:30.43 | abrotman | s1gnius: Debian does not have liblame |
| 12:31.10 | razieliyo | oh, I'm using ubuntu in the laptop, maybe that's why it works |
| 12:31.14 | s1gnius | abrotman: It does if you add the media repo |
| 12:31.29 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@190.254.209.126) |
| 12:31.36 | abrotman | s1gnius: that's not *in* Debian |
| 12:32.04 | razieliyo | abrotman, did that guy give you those 10 bucks? |
| 12:32.19 | abrotman | anyway ... |
| 12:32.27 | razieliyo | I still remember that, but I think it's not the first time somebody offers money for help |
| 12:32.28 | abrotman | razieliyo: I wouldn't take $10, so no |
| 12:32.42 | s1gnius | abrotman: Accepted, but it was more of a generic debian question aa |
| 12:32.45 | razieliyo | haha, that was what you said, I was jut joking |
| 12:32.52 | abrotman | s1gnius: apt-cache policy <foopkg> |
| 12:32.54 | s1gnius | abrotman: Accepted, but it was more of a generic debian question about how to find out a package version |
| 12:33.12 | abrotman | s1gnius: or dpkg -l foopkg |
| 12:33.18 | s1gnius | abrotman: Thanks |
| 12:33.31 | *** join/#debian uday (~uday@117.200.182.127) |
| 12:33.32 | *** join/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.114) |
| 12:34.42 | razieliyo | what are the options for mount -o to give plenty user privileges? |
| 12:34.50 | razieliyo | fat |
| 12:35.55 | *** join/#debian ludens (~ludens@91.191.136.153) |
| 12:35.59 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-132-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:36.00 | abrotman | hugs approx |
| 12:36.16 | *** join/#debian phaer (~user@chello080108090109.9.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 12:37.02 | *** part/#debian bonjoyee (~bonjoyee@117.204.163.114) |
| 12:38.22 | uday | I am trying to boot from iso image. extracted /install.i386/vmlinuz and /install.i386/initrd.gz from the 'squeeze' disk. kept in /boot/x/ also .iso kept in / |
| 12:38.24 | uday | syetem booted with text based installer. shows that it can't find a cdrom and i can't go furthur. any views?? |
| 12:39.39 | *** join/#debian Luthenis (~javier@110.Red-83-44-67.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:40.16 | *** join/#debian doublefun (~dd@223.255.224.4) |
| 12:42.13 | *** join/#debian xiangfu (~xiangfu@123.115.6.79) |
| 12:46.40 | *** join/#debian tulipan (~tulipan@c-24-23-128-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 12:47.09 | *** join/#debian Chelsea (~Chelsea@a82-93-179-135.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 12:49.02 | *** join/#debian tux33 (~tux@unaffiliated/tux33) |
| 12:49.22 | *** join/#debian depesz (~depesz@martin.depesz.com) |
| 12:49.24 | depesz | hi |
| 12:49.30 | depesz | i have debian testing machine, with php 5.3.3, but I don't see php5-fpm package. anyone knows how to get it for this debian? |
| 12:50.34 | *** join/#debian ukine_work (~ukine@152-144.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 12:51.23 | *** part/#debian tulipan (~tulipan@c-24-23-128-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 12:52.01 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 12:52.53 | *** join/#debian tommytwo (~tommytwo@p5DE5B641.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:53.06 | *** join/#debian shahri (~shahri@dslb-084-063-241-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:53.20 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~dunc@212-123-143-144.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 12:53.28 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~dunc@unaffiliated/shadow/x-2691444) |
| 12:54.23 | *** join/#debian laptopz (~mandalay@85.217.170.250) |
| 12:54.36 | *** join/#debian Nepherius (nephy@2001:470:e056:1:2::) |
| 12:56.49 | *** join/#debian amarprasovic (~Amar_Pras@host-88-217-136-39.customer.m-online.net) |
| 12:56.55 | *** part/#debian amarprasovic (~Amar_Pras@host-88-217-136-39.customer.m-online.net) |
| 12:57.46 | abrotman | depesz: In Lenny? I don't believe it exists |
| 12:57.56 | *** join/#debian ludens (~ludens@91.191.136.153) |
| 12:58.38 | abrotman | depesz: sorry, I was wrong, they stopped building it: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.3.3-6/changelog |
| 12:59.25 | *** join/#debian asig3 (~nomail@253.166.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 12:59.25 | *** join/#debian asig (~nomail@unaffiliated/asig) |
| 13:00.31 | *** join/#debian ZeoCulls (~Jizo@98.Red-83-35-103.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:01.09 | *** part/#debian the_dark_warrio (~ian@lgcnatdados.cepetro.unicamp.br) |
| 13:02.50 | razieliyo | now I have udev running, it mounts my HD when I plug it in, but when I plug it out I get a kernel panic |
| 13:02.59 | *** join/#debian sameerthahir (~smartbhai@116.68.97.152) |
| 13:04.34 | *** join/#debian litlebuda (~litlebuda@169.191.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 13:05.54 | *** join/#debian hartzie (~dominik@2001:638:708:10:21f:3cff:fe07:b19a) |
| 13:09.27 | *** part/#debian ZeoCulls (~Jizo@98.Red-83-35-103.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:09.39 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420782.home.otenet.gr) |
| 13:12.48 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@190.254.209.126) |
| 13:13.36 | *** join/#debian uday (~uday@117.200.182.127) |
| 13:13.58 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@85-127-140-228.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 13:14.49 | *** join/#debian slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 13:16.00 | *** join/#debian kakashi_ (~kakashi_@80.85.106.221) |
| 13:16.00 | *** join/#debian kakashi_ (~kakashi_@nltk/kakashi) |
| 13:16.02 | *** join/#debian Faithful (~Faithful@202.189.73.144) |
| 13:16.39 | *** join/#debian yugiohfan2011 (~brandon@dpc693581105.direcpc.com) |
| 13:17.29 | yugiohfan2011 | Can someone help me configure Linux kernel version 2.6.36.2? |
| 13:18.56 | abrotman | Really? Yugio ? |
| 13:19.19 | Shadow` | debian somehow unmounted my root / |
| 13:19.31 | Shadow` | and mount gives 'command not found' |
| 13:19.33 | *** join/#debian wthtt (veter@dyn-20-167.e-sky.ru) |
| 13:19.51 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 13:21.01 | yugiohfan2011 | Well, Debian only came with kernel version 2.6.26, and it gives me "kernel failure" at startup, although Debian boots correctly. |
| 13:21.15 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 13:21.32 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.51 | yugiohfan2011 | How? |
| 13:22.10 | petemc | !bpo |
| 13:22.10 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 13:23.09 | yugiohfan2011 | And 'backports' will get me kernel version 2.6.36.2? |
| 13:23.31 | bla | Which lightweight browser would you propose? |
| 13:23.32 | *** join/#debian juergen_dose (~car@wlan-client-112.informatik.uni-bremen.de) |
| 13:23.55 | petemc | yugiohfan2011: it would be easy to check what versions are available |
| 13:24.51 | *** join/#debian b52 (bcc1b2ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.193.178.237) |
| 13:25.38 | b52 | hey, i just upgraded my libvirt host system and now im unable to start my vms because of "internal error cannot fnd PCI address for balloon virtio", any idea what could be wrong? |
| 13:25.46 | *** join/#debian cire (~cire@lacher.name) |
| 13:26.10 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@62.220.4.235) |
| 13:27.25 | *** join/#debian doublefun (~dd@180.214.233.22) |
| 13:29.16 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@190.254.209.126) |
| 13:29.58 | *** join/#debian Biolunar (~mahdi@blfd-4db18406.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 13:33.53 | *** join/#debian yugiohfan2011 (~brandon@dpc693581105.direcpc.com) |
| 13:34.54 | yugiohfan2011 | Okay, I've added the backports repository to the sources list; and I've created the /etc/apt/preferences file with the required pinning... Now what? |
| 13:36.42 | *** join/#debian johndoy (~JohnDoy@iskon7478.duo.carnet.hr) |
| 13:37.57 | *** part/#debian daggett (~denis@xbn44-5-88-185-226-114.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:38.48 | yugiohfan2011 | Unfortunately backports doesn't seem to work -- I've run the Update Manager and I get no available updates! |
| 13:39.14 | *** join/#debian shahri (~shahri@dslb-084-063-241-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:40.12 | petemc | yugiohfan2011: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 13:40.25 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 13:41.58 | yugiohfan2011 | It lists 2.6.32+27~bpo50+1 in the backports list... |
| 13:42.19 | *** join/#debian NDP (~nicola@78.134.26.165) |
| 13:42.40 | petemc | yugiohfan2011: take another look at the instructions, it clearly tells you how to install packages |
| 13:42.52 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 13:44.07 | *** join/#debian cire (~cire@lacher.name) |
| 13:44.09 | yugiohfan2011 | Clearly I'll want to bookmark that page and refer to it every time I come across a backported package I want to install! |
| 13:44.18 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@178.123.236.112) |
| 13:44.30 | Diytto | ;) |
| 13:44.50 | petemc | yugiohfan2011: that, or commit it to memory, it isnt rocket science |
| 13:44.57 | yugiohfan2011 | The only downside is I would have to perform my upgrades manually. |
| 13:45.18 | Diytto | Easier to bookmark a page imo |
| 13:45.28 | yugiohfan2011 | Sorry, but I'm so used to Windows; it'll take me a while to get Linux down. |
| 13:45.29 | kavakava | Is there a way to see the process status of an update? (How many packages that's finished and remaining.) |
| 13:45.49 | Diytto | I'm sorry but, lol windows |
| 13:46.11 | *** join/#debian maxmat (~mat@cap31-6-88-180-72-181.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:46.13 | yugiohfan2011 | I gotta go, I'll do these things later today... but right now, I'm just too tired. |
| 13:46.20 | maxmat | hello |
| 13:46.29 | *** join/#debian juergen_dose (~car@89.204.153.140) |
| 13:46.32 | *** join/#debian bolt-work (~bolt@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 13:47.07 | *** part/#debian yugiohfan2011 (~brandon@dpc693581105.direcpc.com) |
| 13:51.04 | *** join/#debian fas3r_ (~fas3r@212.51.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 13:51.04 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 13:53.03 | *** join/#debian bolt (~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 13:54.34 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@proxy3.library.nuigalway.ie) |
| 13:54.36 | *** join/#debian juergen_dose (~car@wlan-client-112.informatik.uni-bremen.de) |
| 13:56.47 | *** join/#debian sameerthahir (~smartbhai@116.68.97.152) |
| 13:57.32 | *** join/#debian Wmpotato (~Wmpotato@211.143.231.74) |
| 13:58.21 | *** join/#debian vliam (~vliam3@115.134.57.48) |
| 13:58.50 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.151.142) |
| 14:00.08 | *** join/#debian whud (~whud@hurfmydurf.com) |
| 14:01.05 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h139n1c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 14:02.12 | *** join/#debian andatche (~herb@beans.andatche.com) |
| 14:03.00 | *** part/#debian grandmoun (~piliman@encyclo014701-1-4.clients.easynet.fr) |
| 14:03.49 | *** join/#debian juergen_dose1 (~car@89.204.153.174) |
| 14:04.12 | *** join/#debian freshj (~zhaodejia@221.11.20.99) |
| 14:04.43 | *** join/#debian zephrax (~zephrax@unaffiliated/zephrax) |
| 14:06.02 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@84.32.72.198) |
| 14:06.02 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@pdpc/supporter/7for7/e1z0) |
| 14:06.06 | *** part/#debian freshj (~zhaodejia@221.11.20.99) |
| 14:06.50 | *** join/#debian MrCoffee (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 14:09.16 | *** join/#debian bbd (ogre@morgas.net) |
| 14:09.50 | *** join/#debian tony7day (~tony7day@218.206.229.5) |
| 14:10.11 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-132-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:11.40 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 14:11.50 | *** join/#debian jazz (~rev_jazz_@hyperion.ups-tlse.fr) |
| 14:13.20 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@cpe-024-074-043-004.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 14:13.27 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 14:13.35 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@ip-81-23-53-226.ask4internet.com) |
| 14:13.41 | *** join/#debian treefern (me@219-70-209-211.cable.dynamic.giga.net.tw) |
| 14:14.09 | *** join/#debian rgammans (~roger@dsl-217-155-142-77.zen.co.uk) |
| 14:16.32 | *** join/#debian Schoentoon (Night@unaffiliated/schoentoon) |
| 14:17.00 | stew | !qotd0 |
| 14:17.00 | dpkg | <stoned> I dunno why I did what I did yesterday <stoned> I deleted my debian partitios on my desktop, and installed NTFS/xp/visual studio and now I'm going... FUCK. Shouldnt've done that |
| 14:17.19 | abrotman | that crazy kid .. |
| 14:17.24 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 14:18.05 | *** join/#debian forfolias (~forfolias@79.103.5.91.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 14:18.24 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@f052192090.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 14:18.54 | lord_rob | hehe use virtualbox in this case |
| 14:19.22 | bolt | qemu-kvm ftw |
| 14:19.31 | *** join/#debian Roma_39m (~mirc@93-40-130-141.ip38.fastwebnet.it) |
| 14:19.55 | *** join/#debian pif (~ldm@zenon.apartia.fr) |
| 14:20.53 | queso | Over the weekend I've been trying to get squeeze working on my laptop. After installing, I would boot up and get a blank screen, and couldn't figure it out. I'm guess now that it must because it has an nvidia card. I've been looking at the NvidiaGraphicsDrivers wiki page and am slightly confused. The "debian way" uses module-assistant -- if I install using this, then will it auto-upgrade whenever it needs to? Or will I have to repea |
| 14:21.15 | *** join/#debian lloux (~llou@cm-85-152-204-117.telecable.es) |
| 14:21.38 | *** join/#debian ksx4system (~ksx4syste@095160014027.wejherowo.vectranet.pl) |
| 14:23.32 | petemc | queso: if you upgrade to a different major kernel version (2.6.32 -> 2.6.33) you'll have to rebuild the module |
| 14:23.37 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-195-123.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 14:24.14 | *** join/#debian malkomalko (~malkomalk@static-71-167-138-114.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:24.50 | *** join/#debian luminoso_ (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 14:25.31 | depesz | abrotman: not lenny. testing == squeeze. |
| 14:25.32 | queso | petemc: So if my install automatically starts into X, is there a way to prevent that when booting so I don't have to use the recovery disk? |
| 14:26.21 | queso | petemc: when it boots, I can't even ctrl-alt-f1 into another terminal |
| 14:27.50 | *** join/#debian urbanmonk (~rom@216.191.220.74) |
| 14:28.26 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@cpe-024-074-043-004.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 14:28.26 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 14:29.33 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@ip-81-23-53-226.ask4internet.com) |
| 14:30.16 | petemc | queso: have you already tried to install the nvidia module or is this from a default install? |
| 14:31.51 | *** join/#debian bars0 (~Name@115-230.echostar.pl) |
| 14:32.03 | *** join/#debian Zhonghua (~john@nat/nokia/x-zdqrkztmjrspexso) |
| 14:32.09 | queso | petemc: From a default installation, but I'm happy to try again. What is the right way to go about doing this? |
| 14:34.17 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 14:34.42 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-8159.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 14:35.44 | iceroot | is there a way to see if a specific file is used by a prozess? or if the file-handler from the prozess is still using that file |
| 14:35.50 | *** join/#debian _____________ (~daedhel@cable-10-158-149.b2b2c.ca) |
| 14:37.29 | OpenTokix | iceroot: fuser |
| 14:37.40 | *** join/#debian lorandka1 (~lori@82.79.27.34) |
| 14:37.50 | babilen | iceroot: lsof? Use it, for example, like this: "lsof -p PID" or use fuser ... |
| 14:37.57 | *** join/#debian Dunkan_Aidaho (~aidaho@4-22-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 14:39.52 | *** join/#debian lorandka (~lori@82.79.27.25) |
| 14:40.48 | *** part/#debian lorandka (~lori@82.79.27.25) |
| 14:40.59 | *** join/#debian bars0 (~Name@115-230.echostar.pl) |
| 14:41.07 | petemc | queso: if all you did was a standard squeeze install then that is 'the right way'. you could boot into single user mode and disable the display manager /msg dpkg nodm |
| 14:41.53 | queso | petemc: How do I boot into single user mode? |
| 14:42.04 | *** part/#debian bars0 (~Name@115-230.echostar.pl) |
| 14:42.11 | *** join/#debian bassliner (armin@irc.arje.de) |
| 14:42.18 | *** join/#debian danols (~none@dynamic-66-102-71-5.wtccommunications.ca) |
| 14:42.18 | queso | petemc: ooh, I didn't get what /msg dpkg stood for :P |
| 14:42.49 | bassliner | hello, i can't seem to find /boot/grub/menu.lst on a debian testing machine and i want to put some custom kernel parameters to the box. any hint where's the right place to look at? thanks. |
| 14:43.21 | petemc | queso: append single to the kernel line in grub, are you quite sure you cant get to a terminal after debian boots tho? |
| 14:44.01 | queso | petemc: ctrl-alt-fn doesn't work :( |
| 14:44.14 | petemc | do things like the caps lock light work? |
| 14:44.15 | iceroot | OpenTokix: babilen thank you |
| 14:44.40 | *** join/#debian bars0 (~Name@115-230.echostar.pl) |
| 14:45.06 | *** part/#debian bars0 (~Name@115-230.echostar.pl) |
| 14:45.10 | abrotman | depesz: doesn't matter, changelog the same |
| 14:45.20 | *** join/#debian ruyo (~psantos@a83-132-152-91.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 14:45.34 | depesz | abrotman: not sure i undetrstand. what changelog? |
| 14:45.47 | depesz | abrotman: aaah. now see the url. checking. sorry. |
| 14:45.56 | *** join/#debian bars0 (~Name@115-230.echostar.pl) |
| 14:46.26 | *** join/#debian XThief_ (~XThief@177.Red-83-32-239.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:46.35 | queso | petemc: caps lock worked at first, then when I hit ctrl-alt-f1 it didn't do anything, and capslock light didn't work anymore |
| 14:46.41 | depesz | abrotman: is there any other deb repo that would have php fpm? |
| 14:47.00 | abrotman | depesz: none that i would recommend |
| 14:47.36 | *** join/#debian ugarit (c677382b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.119.56.43) |
| 14:47.49 | depesz | i don't understand it. fpm is great stuff (tm), it was added and then removed? why would anyone want to remove it? |
| 14:47.49 | ugarit | I've configured my firewall via iptables and did iptables-save to save into a file, How do I make this configuration the default at reboot? |
| 14:47.51 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 14:48.07 | abrotman | depesz: you would have to ask the maintainer .. i suspect they had a good reason |
| 14:48.20 | depesz | ugarit: make a file in /etc/network/if-up.d/ that will load those rules |
| 14:48.50 | ugarit | depesz thanks |
| 14:49.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 958] by debhelper |
| 14:51.29 | depesz | abrotman: i find it very hard to believe. generally - removing fpm means remobing part of php. so what is "php 5.3.3" in debian does not contain all features of normal php 5.3.3 |
| 14:51.45 | depesz | which makes it complicated to use. |
| 14:52.12 | abrotman | depesz: you're complaining to the wrong person |
| 14:52.45 | *** join/#debian quirites (~quiritius@109.86.40.114) |
| 14:52.49 | *** join/#debian spikerman (~thinkpddb@116.232.76.218) |
| 14:52.56 | abrotman | depesz: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=603174 |
| 14:53.25 | *** join/#debian noflex (~noflex@5634b408.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 14:53.25 | depesz | sorry if it sound bad - i'm not complainging to you. it's just that I don't understand why would anyone cripple php. |
| 14:53.26 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas1 (~inteltame@201.228.150.115) |
| 14:53.31 | queso | petemc: appending single to the kernel line didn't work . . unless I misunderstood you. |
| 14:53.37 | *** join/#debian T-One (~T-One@194.183.141.238) |
| 14:54.02 | abrotman | depesz: *I* did not :) .. It's not going to get into squeeze |
| 14:55.31 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 14:55.46 | *** join/#debian cesar_CR (~cesar@201.192.86.30) |
| 14:57.07 | abrotman | depesz: you could subscribe to that bug, and it will notify you about any changes to the bug, including when it is resolved (i would imagine the first upload after squeeze) |
| 14:57.45 | depesz | I could, but it doesn't help me even a slightest. |
| 14:58.23 | stew | depesz: what package are you talking about being removed? |
| 14:58.25 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@adsl-99-137-193-73.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:58.26 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 14:58.30 | depesz | and while I would perfectly understand if squeeze had php 5.3.2 or any other version - releasing 5.3.3 without one of the most important changes in it is just ... i don't even know which word to use. |
| 14:58.34 | depesz | stew: php5-fpm |
| 14:59.03 | depesz | fpm was patch to php. but since 5.3.3 it's integral part of php. |
| 14:59.17 | stew | i don't find that package in the pts |
| 14:59.22 | depesz | debian squeeze has php 5.3.3, but *without* fpm. so someone actively removed it from upstream ?! |
| 14:59.34 | *** join/#debian bp0 (~bp@unaffiliated/bp0) |
| 14:59.39 | depesz | stew: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.3.3-6/changelog |
| 14:59.46 | depesz | stew: that's the url abrotman provided. |
| 14:59.58 | depesz | I understand what happened, yet i 100% fail to see any rationale behind it. |
| 15:00.07 | *** join/#debian noodles900 (~jpinx@202.91.19.194) |
| 15:00.14 | *** join/#debian tux33 (~tux@unaffiliated/tux33) |
| 15:01.21 | lord_rob | Hi ! What will be the name of the next testing ? |
| 15:01.31 | *** join/#debian delarge (~doh@152.74.22.119) |
| 15:01.40 | stew | lord_rob: wheezy |
| 15:01.53 | lord_rob | thx stew |
| 15:01.53 | dkr | fo'sheezy |
| 15:02.29 | *** join/#debian alyur (~alyur@217.116.62.236) |
| 15:02.40 | *** join/#debian b2ag (~quassel@141.89.52.251) |
| 15:03.51 | *** join/#debian cywill (~guinet@men75-11-88-175-107-39.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:03.51 | *** join/#debian The_Machine (~Euphoria@83-70-45.static.customer.clearrate.com) |
| 15:05.04 | *** join/#debian surlyjake (~surlyjake@38.115.135.66) |
| 15:05.09 | *** join/#debian cywill (~guinet@men75-11-88-175-107-39.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:05.10 | *** join/#debian Vide (~Vide@88.87.214.78) |
| 15:05.34 | stew | depesz: fpm was disabled because it was too much too new for the squeeze release |
| 15:05.40 | depesz | are there any plans on when squueze might be released? |
| 15:05.50 | depesz | stew: so why did it use 5.3.3 at all? |
| 15:05.56 | *** join/#debian alextreme (~alex@82-171-161-1.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 15:06.30 | Vide | hi, a little question about pinning: i want to install a single package (shorewall6) from squeeze on a lenny installation. I've added the squeeze repos to my sources.list and then added a pinning entry to /etc/apt/preferences |
| 15:06.44 | Vide | so far so good, when i try to install shorewall6 it works |
| 15:07.09 | *** join/#debian bratner (bratner@bzq-84-111-29-81.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 15:07.14 | Vide | but if i try to do a dist-upgrade (apt-get or aptitude) they try to pull in a full squeeze upgrade |
| 15:07.22 | Vide | this is my preferences: |
| 15:07.26 | stew | depesz: to fix a security bug in 5.3.2 |
| 15:07.33 | Vide | Package: * |
| 15:07.36 | Vide | Pin: release a=squeeze |
| 15:07.38 | Vide | Pin-Priority: 101 |
| 15:07.40 | Vide | nothing more |
| 15:07.52 | Vide | what am I doing wrong? |
| 15:08.06 | stew | depesz: this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2010-3710 |
| 15:09.11 | *** join/#debian Xilov (Ygg@AAmiens-256-1-68-75.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:09.24 | *** part/#debian Xilov (Ygg@AAmiens-256-1-68-75.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:09.33 | depesz | stew: hmm ... someone once told me that debian, if necessary, backports fixes from new versions to old versions. which makes some sense. releasing new, but crippled, version - i just don't get it. |
| 15:09.50 | depesz | i mean - will have to live with it. but it's just bugging me. |
| 15:10.14 | *** join/#debian dany_ (~quassel@client-82-0-89-42.sdn-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) |
| 15:10.40 | stew | depesz: what other differences are there between 5.3.2 and 5.3.3 that you wish debian had excluded? |
| 15:10.49 | bratner | Hi. I have upgraded my debian VM (vmware workstation) and if i boot with the new(er) kernel 2.6.26-2-686 it can't see the HDDs. Like in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=509298 |
| 15:10.50 | depesz | ? |
| 15:11.22 | depesz | stew: my english must be worse than I though. i do not want to exclude any features from given version. |
| 15:11.35 | *** join/#debian Neo-Claw (~neo@x1-6-00-26-f2-16-18-66.k871.webspeed.dk) |
| 15:11.39 | depesz | stew: i just belive that if you say "we have product x in version y", it should be product x in version y. |
| 15:11.47 | stew | depesz: it is |
| 15:11.49 | bratner | but that bug was closed without specifying the solution :-( |
| 15:11.55 | *** join/#debian gandhijee (akp@ip67-152-15-148.z15-152-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 15:12.01 | depesz | stew: it's not. one, very important feature, got removed. |
| 15:12.20 | *** join/#debian bas__ (~bug@83.101.62.27) |
| 15:12.24 | *** join/#debian fas3r (~fas3r@212.51.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 15:12.29 | *** join/#debian Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.202.149.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 15:12.37 | *** part/#debian _sho_ (~eclark28@204.153.78.227) |
| 15:12.40 | Vide | ok I think I solved, you should use "sid" instead of "squeeze" in your repos list |
| 15:12.51 | *** join/#debian treefern (me@219-70-209-211.cable.dynamic.giga.net.tw) |
| 15:12.53 | Vide | and then "unstable" instead of "squeeze" in preferences |
| 15:12.58 | Vide | at least, this solved it for me |
| 15:13.02 | Vide | :) |
| 15:13.03 | depesz | stew: on php changelog, this (fpm) is the first "added" feature of 5.3.3, because it is very important. |
| 15:13.03 | Vide | thanks anyway |
| 15:14.04 | stew | depesz: i just don't agree that if debian is going to include version X of package Y, it must mean that EVERY OPTIONAL feature of Y must be turned on |
| 15:14.30 | Neo-Claw | i got a system that can't start.. is there a fast way to get into busybox? |
| 15:14.52 | depesz | stew: i also wouldn't say so. but turning off *the* feature that makes version "X" so important? |
| 15:14.53 | stew | depesz: nor do I think debian would be better served by shipping known bugs in php |
| 15:14.55 | pipeline | Neo-Claw: init=/bin/sh |
| 15:15.08 | *** join/#debian ruyo (~psantos@a83-132-152-91.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 15:15.13 | rozie | depesz: take a look on http://www.dotdeb.org/ |
| 15:15.24 | dany_ | hi all |
| 15:15.32 | depesz | rozie: i did. |
| 15:15.38 | depesz | rozie: there is php5-php. for stable. |
| 15:15.40 | rozie | know that some people which use PHP take those version |
| 15:16.11 | stew | yeah, that will probably get him what he seems to be looking for, which is php with more bugs |
| 15:16.35 | *** join/#debian yngve (~yngve@p4FE88388.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:16.41 | rozie | depesz: is this simple feature not enabled in compilation? |
| 15:16.43 | dany_ | I have a networking problem. When I plug in the cable, for the first seconds the connection works but after I get this "error": wired network connection with a self-assigned address |
| 15:16.47 | *** join/#debian Malmis (malmis@c83-253-12-116.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 15:16.57 | rozie | you have sources, you can recompile with you options... |
| 15:16.59 | depesz | rozie: not sure, tbh. |
| 15:17.06 | *** join/#debian jeansch (~jeansch@bureau.ubity.com) |
| 15:17.07 | stew | rozie: yes |
| 15:17.17 | depesz | rozie: it was packages to separate .deb, so i think it's a bit more complex than changing configure line. |
| 15:17.19 | dany_ | I checked and at the beginning I get a correct address like 192.168.1.5 but after this address disappear and there is a strange address |
| 15:17.34 | dany_ | I'm all the morning trying to solve it but nothing.. |
| 15:17.46 | rozie | stew: can you give depesz name of the option? |
| 15:18.11 | rozie | depesz: you can post reportbug (wishlist) and see what happens |
| 15:18.11 | *** join/#debian pif (~ldm@zenon.apartia.fr) |
| 15:18.22 | depesz | rozie: there is already bug for this. |
| 15:18.32 | depesz | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=603174 |
| 15:18.33 | rozie | and what devs say? |
| 15:18.38 | stew | rozie: its already reported. the feature was disabled at the request of the release team since its such a huge change to come after the freeze |
| 15:19.28 | *** join/#debian niklaswe (~niklas@nmap.se) |
| 15:19.36 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@cpe-024-074-043-004.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 15:19.36 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 15:20.03 | *** join/#debian Italian_Plumber (~Italian_P@h128.96.82.166.static.ip.windstream.net) |
| 15:20.34 | *** join/#debian claw (~claw@pD9562371.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:21.43 | *** join/#debian The_Machine (~Euphoria@83-70-45.static.customer.clearrate.com) |
| 15:21.44 | stew | depesz: lookint at the 5.3.3 changelog, it looks like there are a lot of important bugfixes over 5.3.2: http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php#5.3.3 |
| 15:21.45 | rozie | depesz: take sources for stable for dotdeb |
| 15:21.59 | rozie | compile it on you (I assume you have testing/unstable) |
| 15:22.05 | depesz | rozie: i'm on testing. |
| 15:22.08 | rozie | s/you/your/ system |
| 15:22.19 | stew | he can also just recompile the debian package from their git |
| 15:22.27 | *** join/#debian treefern (me@219-70-209-211.cable.dynamic.giga.net.tw) |
| 15:22.50 | depesz | rozie: it's possible. will probably do it. a bit worried about potential upgrades in future, though |
| 15:23.09 | stew | and the dotdeb version is less likely to have all the security fixes that the debian version has |
| 15:23.24 | rozie | why? you need of course do it after each new release |
| 15:23.32 | stew | looking at their git repo, they are cherry picking a lot of bugfixes into the debian package |
| 15:24.20 | rozie | anyway, there are two ways: use debian version, which is comfortable |
| 15:24.37 | rozie | or roll your own, which requires more work |
| 15:24.57 | *** join/#debian jas4711 (~jas@c80-216-27-64.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 15:25.32 | *** join/#debian pif (~ldm@zenon.apartia.fr) |
| 15:25.58 | *** part/#debian Vide (~Vide@88.87.214.78) |
| 15:26.30 | *** join/#debian jazz (~rev_jazz_@hyperion.ups-tlse.fr) |
| 15:26.57 | *** join/#debian ugarit (c677382b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.119.56.43) |
| 15:27.01 | ugarit | I did the following in /etc/network/interfaces: pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules ; I rebooted and the rules were implemented but they are concatenated to the default "built-in" ones. How do I only implement mine? |
| 15:27.36 | *** join/#debian Zhonghua (~john@nat/nokia/x-irfszsouvtsqhfnn) |
| 15:28.01 | stew | ugarit: what is an example of a 'built-in' rule? |
| 15:28.18 | stew | ugarit: there shouldn't be any 'bult-in' rules |
| 15:28.18 | depesz | ugarit: change it from pre-up to up |
| 15:28.21 | stew | no |
| 15:28.24 | *** join/#debian makubi (~makubi@84.119.89.220) |
| 15:28.24 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@89.30.15.20) |
| 15:28.25 | stew | pre-up is correct |
| 15:28.26 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 15:28.39 | *** join/#debian sudhi (~sudheendr@59.97.48.104) |
| 15:28.46 | depesz | ok. |
| 15:28.54 | edju | I can't for the life of me find where in cups one finds "resume printer". Anyone? |
| 15:29.06 | ugarit | stew: built-in is the wrong word. What I mean is what was there when I inherited the machine. |
| 15:29.27 | depesz | ugarit: perhaps it is also in this /etc/iptables.rules ? |
| 15:29.30 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@92.28.180.235) |
| 15:29.30 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 15:29.35 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 15:29.37 | *** part/#debian sudhi (~sudheendr@59.97.48.104) |
| 15:30.12 | ugarit | depesz: I'm the one who created /etc/iptables.rules so it only has my configurations |
| 15:30.26 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 15:30.37 | depesz | ugarit: ok. and now iptables-save is different (in number of rules) from /etc/iptables.rules ? |
| 15:30.41 | *** join/#debian pif (~ldm@zenon.apartia.fr) |
| 15:31.08 | ugarit | depesz: yes |
| 15:31.18 | shamrock | In squeeze my gpg-agent seems to be broken. Is this a know issue with latest updates? |
| 15:31.20 | depesz | ugarit: then clearly there is also something else that sets the rules. |
| 15:31.35 | ugarit | depesz: exactly, and I'm not sure where that is |
| 15:31.41 | depesz | ugarit: find it, and remove. |
| 15:31.52 | depesz | ugarit: did you check /etc/network/if-up.d ? |
| 15:31.59 | *** join/#debian jas4711 (~jas@c80-216-27-64.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 15:32.08 | stew | shamrock: have you checked the bts? |
| 15:32.14 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@110.164.167.86) |
| 15:32.32 | stew | ugarit: are you sure the rules you are calling 'built-in' are not also in /etc/iptables.rules ? |
| 15:33.01 | ugarit | 100% sure |
| 15:33.20 | *** join/#debian zippy (~zuppy@xdsl-92-252-127-8.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 15:33.29 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@190.244.146.95) |
| 15:33.48 | ugarit | nothing is in if-up.d that pertains to iptables |
| 15:33.52 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 15:34.01 | *** join/#debian claw (~claw@pD9563F22.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:35.15 | *** join/#debian tony7day (~tonyday@117.136.22.234) |
| 15:35.19 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~fuzzyglee@h-152-12.A163.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 15:36.18 | *** join/#debian zach23 (~zach23@173-165-13-38-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 15:37.07 | *** join/#debian litlebuda (~litlebuda@169.191.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 15:38.18 | *** join/#debian worf_ (~worf@84-119-55-166.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 15:38.35 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 15:38.39 | *** join/#debian Nayruden (~nayruden@71-219-96-151.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 15:39.53 | shamrock | I tried but the search mechanism seems a bit klunky. Since I dont know whats wrong I tried gpg-agent and squeeze and get literally thousands of links back |
| 15:40.38 | *** join/#debian jitterer (~jitt@c-94-255-221-70.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 15:41.21 | *** join/#debian _markb1_ (~mbiggers@wire152019112015.med.unc.edu) |
| 15:41.21 | *** join/#debian nurdys (~nurdys@lor33-4-78-246-236-93.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:42.01 | stew | shamrock: the package anme is gnupg-agent, not gpg-agent |
| 15:42.08 | stew | shamrock: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=gnupg-agent;dist=unstable |
| 15:42.46 | stew | shamrock: also note that the last new version in squeeze has been there for >4 months now, so if this is a brand new problem, it might not be with an upgrade |
| 15:46.04 | *** join/#debian Negrovences (~negrovenc@201.132.11.120) |
| 15:48.34 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 15:49.45 | *** join/#debian Dunkan_Aidaho (~aidaho@209-88-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 15:50.23 | *** join/#debian eDose (~eDose@web00.franceschelli.eu) |
| 15:51.46 | *** join/#debian sud0su (~sud0su@123.108.97.20) |
| 15:52.51 | *** join/#debian Zhonghua (~john@nat/nokia/x-vdwmexdibskqwvwr) |
| 15:53.06 | *** part/#debian tony7day (~tonyday@117.136.22.234) |
| 15:53.29 | shamrock | thanks a lot |
| 15:56.18 | *** join/#debian qhubekela (~qhubekela@41.211.32.82) |
| 15:58.05 | *** join/#debian eDose (~eDose@web00.franceschelli.eu) |
| 15:58.17 | JyZyXEL | if you do: "ssh -f remote xterm; shutdown -h now" will the xterm remain open on the remote machine? |
| 15:59.04 | SPF | JyZyXEL: what keeps you from trying this out? |
| 15:59.12 | JyZyXEL | i don't wanna shutdown |
| 15:59.44 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@cpe-024-074-043-004.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 15:59.44 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 16:00.17 | *** join/#debian Sary (~Sa@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 16:00.43 | *** join/#debian MadViking (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-ff96c100-143.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 16:00.48 | petemc | JyZyXEL: then why issue a shutdown command? |
| 16:00.52 | qhubekela | JyZyXel: maybe you could try it as a normal user :\ |
| 16:01.24 | JyZyXEL | petemc: cause i wanna know what will happen if shutdown was invoked |
| 16:01.26 | qhubekela | it will at least give you an idea what will happen without actually doing it |
| 16:01.40 | *** join/#debian litlebuda (~litlebuda@169.191.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 16:03.02 | *** join/#debian terranova (~terranova@djq80.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:03.25 | JyZyXEL | qhubekela: no it won't |
| 16:03.30 | JyZyXEL | cause it doesn't shutdown |
| 16:03.42 | *** join/#debian terranova (~terranova@djq80.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:04.04 | stew | JyZyXEL: your local machine will shutdown after the remote xterm process quits |
| 16:04.06 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@2001:1470:faca:1502:d18f:8283:bbd5:f2c4) |
| 16:04.37 | JyZyXEL | -f puts the ssh in the background |
| 16:04.51 | JyZyXEL | the next command should be invoked immidiately |
| 16:05.38 | *** join/#debian sanal_madatheth (~sanalkuma@117.196.148.205) |
| 16:06.07 | stew | ahh, right, i ignored the -f, so you start an xterm on the remote machine, the local machine starts to shutdown, during that shutdown, the ssh process is killed which kills the remote xterm |
| 16:06.34 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@75-106-254-33.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 16:06.44 | *** join/#debian dels (~elsbroek@unaffiliated/dels) |
| 16:06.51 | JyZyXEL | are you sure killing the ssh process will kill the xterm on the remote machine? |
| 16:07.01 | stew | JyZyXEL: tias |
| 16:07.07 | *** join/#debian xand (xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) |
| 16:07.13 | JyZyXEL | and do you mean the ssh -f process or sshd process |
| 16:07.16 | *** join/#debian Iridos (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 16:08.10 | stew | JyZyXEL: the ssh -f process |
| 16:08.54 | JyZyXEL | because i tried: "ssh -f remote sleep 50s" and then killed the ssh -f process |
| 16:09.02 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 16:09.04 | JyZyXEL | and the sleep 50s process still remains in remote |
| 16:09.26 | stew | JyZyXEL: why not try "ssh -f remote xterm" |
| 16:09.31 | *** join/#debian Schoentoon_ (Night@ip4da4f603.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 16:09.52 | JyZyXEL | theres a difference? |
| 16:10.01 | stew | yes |
| 16:10.24 | JyZyXEL | so shell based programs will remain and X based won't? |
| 16:10.41 | stew | i don't know what that means |
| 16:10.59 | *** join/#debian NoNaMeNo (~NoNaMeNo@tb213-185-227-85.cust.teknikbyran.com) |
| 16:11.04 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 16:11.22 | *** join/#debian roe (~roe___@216-164-211-102.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) |
| 16:11.24 | *** join/#debian roe (~roe___@unaffiliated/roe) |
| 16:11.29 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 16:11.33 | *** part/#debian depesz (~depesz@martin.depesz.com) |
| 16:11.49 | JyZyXEL | why does the sleep 50s process remain when xterm doesn't? |
| 16:11.51 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 16:11.59 | stew | JyZyXEL: did you test with xterm? |
| 16:12.12 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:12.13 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 16:12.19 | JyZyXEL | no but i trusted that you did |
| 16:12.24 | *** join/#debian tq (~tobias@cpc3-brig15-2-0-cust590.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 16:12.41 | *** join/#debian alyur (~alyur@217.116.62.236) |
| 16:12.51 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@host86-130-3-10.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:12.52 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 16:13.12 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@host86-130-3-10.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:13.13 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 16:13.26 | *** join/#debian Morten_ (~morten@0x5da31f7d.boanqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 16:13.30 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@host86-130-3-10.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:13.30 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 16:13.48 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@host86-130-3-10.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:13.49 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 16:13.49 | stew | JyZyXEL: aiui the difference is that sleep is in the sleep state, and it gets killed when it wakes up. xterm wakes up immediately to process the signal |
| 16:14.04 | *** join/#debian tq (~tobias@cpc3-brig15-2-0-cust590.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 16:14.08 | *** join/#debian EcKstasy (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 16:14.16 | *** part/#debian qhubekela (~qhubekela@41.211.32.82) |
| 16:14.39 | JyZyXEL | how do you prevent it from killing it then? |
| 16:14.41 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:14.44 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-223.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 16:15.20 | *** join/#debian GJ (gj@gj.fi) |
| 16:15.41 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@24.153.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 16:15.44 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 16:17.25 | *** join/#debian kpal (eart0186@raven.linux.ox.ac.uk) |
| 16:17.46 | *** join/#debian Bop (~longcat@bl4-166-228.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas1 (~inteltame@201.228.150.115) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian Faithful (~Faithful@202.189.73.144) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian cornelinux (~koelbel@188.107.71.229) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian simonrvn (simon@197.112-ppp.3menatwork.com) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian stockholm (~andreas@johannes.schuldei.org) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian jelly (~jelly@lan.iskon.hr) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian Bhavic (~bhavicp@203-173-232-188.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~hXm@52.Red-88-19-199.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian alteregoa (~dude@80-218-136-229.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian samuray (~chatzilla@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian hebz0rl (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-222-215.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian ali3n0 (~alieno@93-32-173-168.ip34.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (star1@ZQ128185.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian Zygo (startkeylo@startkeylogger.hungrycats.org) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian chemist (~xxx@78.33.177.154) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian ferret_ (ferret@gentoo/user/ferret) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian [da] (~da@net84-253-144-072.mclink.it) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian kefalo (~kefalo@78.104.97.95) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian gernot (~gernot@unaffiliated/gernot) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian Gorroth (~grimw@ool-457c30a5.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian qwd (~x@unaffiliated/qwd) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian JStoker (jstoker@unaffiliated/jstoker) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian holmgren (~magnus@ua-85-227-1-26.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian ColdFyre (~lenny@c-98-248-33-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian dkr (~dkr@67.132.255.16) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian xtr (~058452959@64-46-16-152.dyn.novuscom.net) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian prefrontal (~prefronta@mist.colorado.edu) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian Internat (~nf@123-243-184-161.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian bla (bla@unaffiliated/bla) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian aef (~quassel@neoschlageter.raxys.net) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian w3gi_ (~peter@143-24.12.24.78.awnet.cz) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian Adriaan (~Adriaan@unaffiliated/adriaan) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian llimeht (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian cantoma (~JJ@138.250.110.69) |
| 16:17.55 | *** join/#debian dansushi (~dan@147.4.211.193) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian bvs (beavis@unaffiliated/bvs) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian CissWit (~cisswit@6-8.fr) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian kerframil (~kerframil@gentoo/user/kerframil) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian Nuxro (~nux@unaffiliated/nuxro) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian helo (~nkr@unaffiliated/helo) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian kurt_h (~kurt@c-98-250-161-230.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian phunguy (santas@will.one.day.hack-the-pla.net) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian cplx (~hybrid@203-59-26-145.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian Moult (~quassel@69.55.238.197) |
| 16:17.56 | *** join/#debian Uioqu (~ill@c83-248-250-82.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 16:18.50 | *** join/#debian tempeldirne (~L@client-203-190.swh.uni-giessen.de) |
| 16:20.05 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta (~MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot) |
| 16:20.54 | *** join/#debian tenebrarum (~tenebraru@kiss.the.whip.0xf.org) |
| 16:20.59 | *** join/#debian Schoentoon (Night@unaffiliated/schoentoon) |
| 16:21.15 | *** join/#debian MadViking (~user@dsl-roibrasgw1-ff96c100-143.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 16:21.25 | *** join/#debian hartzie (~dominik@95-88-182-98-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 16:23.30 | *** join/#debian siya (~djerk@87-194-171-55.bethere.co.uk) |
| 16:23.30 | *** join/#debian b4ggi0 (~Patrick@220.232.130.213) |
| 16:23.41 | *** join/#debian batrick (~batrick@nmap/developer/batrick) |
| 16:23.43 | *** join/#debian xinming (~hyy@122.238.74.255) |
| 16:23.48 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@85.183.53.36) |
| 16:24.19 | *** join/#debian Method (~Method@nat-3-135.snu.edu) |
| 16:24.19 | *** join/#debian enyc (~enyc@muddle.enyc.org.uk) |
| 16:24.20 | *** join/#debian Method (~Method@unaffiliated/method) |
| 16:25.14 | *** join/#debian casosac (~pikratos@190.43.14.39) |
| 16:25.18 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 16:25.18 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 16:25.23 | *** join/#debian XThief (~XThief@177.Red-83-32-239.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:25.32 | xinming | when we use 'aptitude install <package-name>' And we abort the comand when it's downloading, The next time we call 'aptitude install', It'll try to install the <package-name> I previously tried. How to clear the <package-name> to be installed when we invoke 'aptitude install' please? |
| 16:26.44 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:27.10 | jpinx-eeepc | xinming: probably by doing apttude purge <package-name> |
| 16:27.11 | *** join/#debian Guest4708 (~guest@174.36.234.43) |
| 16:27.15 | *** join/#debian dav1d (~dav1d@p5798AA21.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:27.21 | dav1d | Hello |
| 16:27.24 | *** join/#debian tenebrarum (~tenebraru@kiss.the.whip.0xf.org) |
| 16:27.49 | *** join/#debian stopsign (~stopsign@c-24-20-208-192.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 16:29.10 | dav1d | I wanna buy a extern soundcard for my NAS (running debian,kirkwood) I found a soundcard (TerraTec Aureon Dual USB). The homepage says: No matter which operating system you use: in addition to the Microsoft Windows versions from Win 98 SE, MAC OS 9, OS X and Linux (provided USB audio support is compiled in the kernel) are also supported. - so is the USB audio support compiled in the kernel? |
| 16:29.12 | jhutchins_lt2 | xinming: Check the manpage, I believe there's a "clear requested actions" switch. |
| 16:29.44 | *** join/#debian GJ (gj@gj.fi) |
| 16:30.05 | *** join/#debian eDose (~eDose@web00.franceschelli.eu) |
| 16:30.23 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 16:30.29 | *** join/#debian yoshio (~yoshio@173-116-222-96.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 16:30.35 | *** join/#debian shahri (~shahri@dslb-084-063-241-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:31.15 | *** join/#debian floe (~flo@85.183.53.36) |
| 16:32.29 | *** join/#debian noodles900 (~jpinx@110.164.167.86) |
| 16:32.36 | *** join/#debian delby (~chatzilla@5ac19784.bb.sky.com) |
| 16:33.21 | delby | is it me or is chromium much faster than iceweasel on squeeze? |
| 16:33.28 | *** join/#debian Guest406523 (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:33.58 | babilen | delby: it is |
| 16:34.22 | gusnan | isn't pretty much any browser much faster than iceweasel? |
| 16:34.52 | dav1d | so no ideas? |
| 16:35.20 | delby | if only chromium was as configurable as iceweasel .... |
| 16:35.56 | *** join/#debian LegolasV (~whoeiii35@kde/developer/sverberkt) |
| 16:36.02 | karlpinc | dav1d: Look at /lib/modules/... If not you could always turn it on. (I imagine it's on but don't know.) See make-kpkg. |
| 16:36.10 | dav1d | thx |
| 16:36.12 | *** join/#debian Guest410065 (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:36.29 | dav1d | the problem is it isn't running atm (the NAS) so I better asked... |
| 16:37.11 | *** join/#debian joneal (~joneal@cpe-66-91-228-48.san.res.rr.com) |
| 16:38.04 | karlpinc | dav1d: I see /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko and snd-usb-lib.ko on lenny. FWIW. |
| 16:38.12 | *** join/#debian Fyrespray (~Mark@78.32.255.161) |
| 16:39.30 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:39.46 | *** join/#debian Guest414708 (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:39.50 | *** part/#debian queso (~queso@adsl-75-21-67-12.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:40.06 | *** join/#debian Guest416393 (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:40.10 | dav1d | :) |
| 16:40.15 | dav1d | thank you very much |
| 16:41.28 | *** join/#debian rwrd (~rwrd@unaffiliated/rwrd) |
| 16:41.42 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:42.10 | xinming | jpinx-eeepc: But It seems the dependencies will still be pull'ed in. |
| 16:42.16 | *** join/#debian FFForever (FFForever@unaffiliated/ffforever) |
| 16:42.31 | FFForever | What is the meta package for the base build tools |
| 16:42.40 | dkr | build-essential |
| 16:42.53 | FFForever | Thanks |
| 16:42.59 | *** join/#debian mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@fibre010.216.145.111.nas.net) |
| 16:43.25 | *** join/#debian Joelio (~joel@lcw-212-23-5-1.zen.co.uk) |
| 16:43.29 | *** join/#debian _____________ (~daedhel@modemcable005.157-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 16:44.27 | jpinx-eeepc | xinming: let aptitude sort the dependencies unless you have special requirements ;) |
| 16:44.43 | Joelio | Hi, during an upgrade to a test box on squeeze, my ssh session died duing the dpkg configuration section (I know, should have screened the session!). I now have a lock, is it safe to kill the dpkg process and lock or is there a preferred way to recover? |
| 16:45.14 | *** join/#debian Erbureth (~kvirc@wireless-70.fi.muni.cz) |
| 16:45.41 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:46.21 | *** join/#debian rwrd (~rwrd@5357F9A1.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 16:46.21 | *** join/#debian rwrd (~rwrd@unaffiliated/rwrd) |
| 16:46.49 | *** join/#debian tq (~tobias@cpc3-brig15-2-0-cust590.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 16:46.51 | *** join/#debian mortehu (~mortehu@195.159.128.13) |
| 16:46.53 | xinming | jpinx-eeepc: I mean, It's not even installed, Just 'aptitude install foo' and when it's downloading, and C-c, and 'aptitude install' command, It'll try to install the package again. when we 'aptitude remove foo', and type 'aptitude install' again, It'll try to install the dependencies which is pulled by foo package. |
| 16:47.07 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 16:48.13 | jpinx-eeepc | first - read what I wrote - aptitude purge (not remove) You might have to complete the installation before purging to get a "proper" result |
| 16:49.07 | mortehu | Question: How can I clean /etc/rcS.d/ For some reason, there's a lot of symlinks there that should not be there (like ALSA) |
| 16:49.57 | Joelio | mortehu: Can you not manage them with update-rc.d? |
| 16:50.06 | *** join/#debian thewanderer1 (~thewander@89-76-148-31.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 16:50.06 | yoshio | xinming, try aptitude keep foo ? |
| 16:50.19 | mortehu | I mean, how do I know which ones are wrong? |
| 16:50.44 | mortehu | Ony this one computer, I have 49 scripts in /etc/rc.S/ Comparing to another similar computer, I see that this is unusual |
| 16:50.51 | mortehu | s/Ony/On/ |
| 16:50.59 | mortehu | I mean rcS.d |
| 16:51.24 | *** join/#debian quirites (~quiritius@109.86.40.114) |
| 16:52.10 | thewanderer1 | mortehu: scripts have their default runlevels written inside them - read the first 10 lines or so of each one and you can have a good idea of which ones are "alien" |
| 16:52.25 | thewanderer1 | unless some of them come from outside Debian, which I don't know as I've just arrived :P |
| 16:52.51 | mortehu | Thanks |
| 16:53.30 | *** join/#debian Nhasc (~Nhasc@169.Red-83-32-146.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:54.55 | xinming | yoshio: No, Not keep, I just abort a installation in download stage. |
| 16:55.40 | *** join/#debian tommytwo (~tommytwo@p4FE8F783.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:55.47 | *** join/#debian T-One (~T-One@194.183.141.238) |
| 16:55.57 | *** join/#debian davyg (~davyg@2a01:e35:8b2b:fac0:221:5dff:fe95:a18) |
| 16:56.09 | jhutchins_lt | xinming: I'll say it again, there's an option to cancel the requested action in aptitude. I'm not going to read the manpage for you to find it. |
| 16:56.48 | *** join/#debian noflex (~noflex@5634b408.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 16:57.03 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@93.186.148.83) |
| 16:57.14 | *** join/#debian factorx (~asdf@i53876AB1.versanet.de) |
| 16:57.45 | karlpinc | mortehu: aptitude search '~i'| grep ^c |
| 16:57.57 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@cpe-024-074-043-004.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 16:57.57 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 16:58.38 | *** join/#debian Bloxid (~Bloxid@host98-5-static.89-94-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:58.59 | *** join/#debian Hut (~ubuser@84.113.162.46) |
| 16:59.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 966] by debhelper |
| 16:59.04 | xinming | jhutchins_lt: I did read it. |
| 16:59.05 | *** part/#debian Bloxid (~Bloxid@host98-5-static.89-94-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:59.18 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 16:59.42 | xinming | Therefore, if you issue (e.g.) the command âaptitude install foo barâ and then abort the installation once aptitude has started downloading and installing packages, you will need to run âaptitude remove foo barâ to cancel that order. |
| 16:59.47 | xinming | All I found it this info. |
| 17:00.14 | *** join/#debian mcb_ (~marcos@189-87-254-123.poolip.BHE.embratel.net.br) |
| 17:00.25 | mortehu | karlpinc: Thanks. I already did those. It turns out most of the scripts belonged there, so there is something else wrong with the boot process. Specifically, NFS and NIS are started before the network interfaces are configured. |
| 17:00.39 | mortehu | I'll try a reboot now to see if it happens in rcS or rc2 |
| 17:01.13 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 17:01.33 | *** join/#debian mcb_ (~marcos@189-87-254-123.poolip.BHE.embratel.net.br) |
| 17:02.16 | *** join/#debian arvind_k (~arvind@117.192.205.120) |
| 17:02.42 | *** join/#debian boogie1 (~zero@190.194.221.30) |
| 17:02.48 | *** part/#debian boogie1 (~zero@190.194.221.30) |
| 17:03.35 | *** join/#debian nueve (~zsictst@96.Red-80-35-38.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:03.53 | *** part/#debian nueve (~zsictst@96.Red-80-35-38.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:03.54 | *** join/#debian rzeka (~rzk@238.pubip208.sta.nsm.pl) |
| 17:03.58 | *** join/#debian nirazio (75ce509b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.206.80.155) |
| 17:04.14 | *** join/#debian pawelpaja (~holicy.pl@dynamic-87-105-133-88.ssp.dialog.net.pl) |
| 17:04.19 | nirazio | How can i determine if just the .private folder is encrypted or the whole home directory? |
| 17:04.20 | xinming | But please read my question again, The dependencies are still being pulled. |
| 17:05.24 | Iridos | that's not the behavior I know from apt-get... and I've never seen that with aptitude either |
| 17:06.01 | *** join/#debian darkestkhan (~darkestkh@193.59.72.217) |
| 17:06.14 | Iridos | although I did see some weird behavior lately when just running "aptitude -f install" |
| 17:06.24 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 17:06.55 | nirazio | Can anyone tell me..How can i determine if just the .private folder is encrypted or the whole home directory? |
| 17:07.01 | Iridos | it seems to always want to "fix" things that aren't broken at all, while "apt-get -f install" just exits |
| 17:07.21 | xinming | Iridos: Try this, 'aptitude install clisp', and cancel it when downloading, and 'aptitude install', You'll see clisp will still be installed. Then, do what manual said, 'aptitude remove clisp', and you'll see that dependencies are still be pulled though the clisp package. |
| 17:07.56 | xinming | when run 'aptitude install' again after run 'aptitude remove clisp' |
| 17:08.02 | Iridos | totally enough to run "aptitude install" without arguments - it wants to do loads of stuff |
| 17:08.23 | *** join/#debian Erbureth (~kvirc@wired-202.fi.muni.cz) |
| 17:08.27 | Iridos | another reason why I prefer apt-get, even if aptitude sometimes has a much better dependency resolution |
| 17:09.37 | stew | Iridos: what is an example of something it wants to fix that isn't broken? |
| 17:10.41 | Iridos | well, I think it might be what xinming describes... |
| 17:10.50 | Iridos | aptitude -f install: 0 packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 37 to remove and 57 not upgraded. |
| 17:11.09 | Iridos | apt-get -f install: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 57 not upgraded. |
| 17:11.15 | jhutchins_lt | > Cancels all scheduled actions on all packages; any packages whose sticky state indicates an installation, removal, or upgrade will have this sticky state cleared. |
| 17:11.41 | *** join/#debian pawelpaja (~holicy.pl@dynamic-87-105-133-88.ssp.dialog.net.pl) |
| 17:12.36 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-195-123.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 17:12.50 | *** join/#debian agarfu (~agarfu@85.155.84.92.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 17:12.56 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 17:13.12 | stew | Iridos: run "aptitude why packagename" for one of the new packages it wants to install |
| 17:13.16 | Iridos | hm, can you SEE a sticky state? |
| 17:13.43 | Iridos | the sentence you got is also one of two mentions in less /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README |
| 17:14.05 | nirazio | Can anyone tell me..How can i determine if just the .private folder is encrypted or the whole home directory? |
| 17:14.30 | Iridos | you already asked that... it's simple - if you can't read the files, they're encrypted? |
| 17:15.00 | *** join/#debian uwjesd (~tester@p57B0EC99.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:15.00 | xinming | jhutchins_lt: sorry, the keep-all command worked, The command I use to test is 'aptitude remove clisp' && 'aptitude keep clisp', and I found the dependencies are still being pulled. Then I thought It's not the command to use. then I ignored keep-all command. |
| 17:15.14 | Iridos | stew, "unable to find a reason..." |
| 17:15.18 | uwjesd | What are the ods of squeeze becoming stable 2010? |
| 17:15.32 | *** join/#debian treefern (me@219-70-209-211.cable.dynamic.giga.net.tw) |
| 17:15.50 | xinming | 'aptitude install clisp' && (abort) && 'sudo aptitude keep clisp' worked. |
| 17:15.51 | Iridos | and yes... keep-all removes them... but I've never run about that "sticky" thing before |
| 17:16.09 | *** join/#debian evildalton (~~@warzone2100/moderator/Dalton) |
| 17:16.12 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 17:16.20 | xinming | jhutchins_lt: Thanks. a long standing problem after I switched to use aptitude. |
| 17:16.47 | *** join/#debian kishy (~kishy@75-119-224-80.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 17:16.52 | babilen | uwjesd: 42:23 |
| 17:17.10 | Iridos | and seems you can see them with aptitude search ~ahold |
| 17:17.20 | Iridos | but now I already removed the sticky-hold stuff |
| 17:17.42 | Iridos | still... I find that somewhat disturbing behavior |
| 17:17.47 | *** join/#debian aPpYe (~aPpYe@71-93-105-251.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 17:19.21 | *** join/#debian dominicus (~dominicus@unaffiliated/dominicus) |
| 17:20.22 | dominicus | When transferring files over to a server connected via "SSH" via nautilus, is it normal for the date modified (timestamps to be reset to that of the time of file transfer)? |
| 17:21.05 | *** join/#debian Xanbreon (~xan@85.210.191.235) |
| 17:21.29 | *** join/#debian k[l (~]i@2001:0:53aa:64c:1822:4ed4:bf79:1731) |
| 17:21.45 | *** join/#debian binbash_ (~peter@ip4da5c213.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 17:22.12 | *** join/#debian zkab (~Ray@1-1-5-27a.hud.sth.bostream.se) |
| 17:24.00 | *** join/#debian l1 (~l1@81-235-255-144-no24.business.telia.com) |
| 17:24.08 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 17:25.37 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@unaffiliated/madi) |
| 17:25.52 | *** part/#debian chanfu (~chanfu@unaffiliated/mota/bot/chanfu) |
| 17:26.54 | *** join/#debian W0rmF00d (~WormFood@shenzhencomputers.com) |
| 17:27.19 | *** join/#debian shylent (~maniac@unaffiliated/ossory) |
| 17:27.47 | *** join/#debian zappy (~zuppy@xdsl-188-118-138-223.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 17:29.12 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 17:29.52 | *** join/#debian litlebuda (~litlebuda@169.191.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 17:30.19 | *** join/#debian LasseMDK (~LasseMDK_@0405ds1-hk.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 17:30.26 | *** join/#debian pLk (~mail@xdsl-92-252-16-58.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 17:30.48 | *** join/#debian xr0dr (~rramirez@201.238.212.154) |
| 17:31.46 | *** join/#debian nueve (~zsictst@96.Red-80-35-38.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:32.08 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 17:33.29 | *** join/#debian aarcane (~aarcane@c-98-238-135-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:34.03 | *** join/#debian _markb1_ (~mbiggers@wire152019112015.med.unc.edu) |
| 17:35.30 | *** join/#debian jajjax (~jajjax@ua-83-227-220-12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:36.13 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@89.30.15.20) |
| 17:36.13 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 17:36.45 | *** join/#debian GJ (gj@gj.fi) |
| 17:37.51 | *** part/#debian cornelinux (~koelbel@188.107.71.229) |
| 17:38.16 | *** join/#debian Asen-Ger (~Er_wars@HSI-KBW-078-043-077-018.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 17:38.51 | *** join/#debian JairunCaloth (~b00@c-24-126-145-61.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 17:38.57 | *** join/#debian cryptmod99 (~private@d54C1C4B0.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:39.00 | homie | b52: from what to what the upgrade ? |
| 17:39.03 | homie | b52: is it from lenny to squeeze version to sid ?? |
| 17:39.06 | homie | b52: what is the running kernel, what is the expected kernel from the module ? |
| 17:39.06 | homie | b52: did you update your initrd too ? |
| 17:40.23 | *** join/#debian krushik (~mayday@84.17.25.149) |
| 17:43.32 | nirazio | How can I make Chromium open apt links with xdg-open? |
| 17:43.35 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 17:43.44 | *** join/#debian Amanaq (~Miranda@1.23.194.48) |
| 17:44.33 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@ip-62-245-81-157.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 17:44.55 | *** join/#debian neurolysis (~chris@unaffiliated/neurolysis) |
| 17:45.54 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug_ (~Spami|Thu@89.30.15.20) |
| 17:48.24 | *** join/#debian TJCRI (~chatzilla@148.61.156.17) |
| 17:48.43 | *** join/#debian solidstate (~foxtrot@c-71-197-6-78.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 17:49.03 | nirazio | On GNOME the screen locks when I suspend, and I find that a bit annoying (no one else in the house uses ubuntu anyway haha). What can I do to stop this? |
| 17:49.16 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@190.244.146.95) |
| 17:51.29 | *** join/#debian RocknRoll (~rocknroll@186.204.185.183) |
| 17:51.53 | *** part/#debian RocknRoll (~rocknroll@186.204.185.183) |
| 17:53.05 | *** join/#debian joesph (~joesph@HSI-KBW-091-089-101-237.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 17:53.59 | *** join/#debian noflex (~noflex@5634b408.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 17:54.27 | *** join/#debian eDose (~eDose@web00.franceschelli.eu) |
| 17:55.18 | Iridos | nirazio, configure the screen-saver? |
| 17:55.44 | *** join/#debian dany_ (~quassel@client-82-0-89-42.sdn-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) |
| 17:55.57 | *** join/#debian redDEADresolve (~redDEADre@ws055007.housing-tp.siu.edu) |
| 17:56.16 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 17:56.38 | Iridos | nirazio, and ask #ubuntu about ubuntu stuff |
| 17:56.50 | *** join/#debian johndoy (~JohnDoy@161.53.228.83) |
| 17:56.51 | nirazio | oke thank you |
| 17:57.47 | *** join/#debian mugwort13 (~mugwort13@pool-108-12-167-75.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:58.22 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~hXm@52.Red-88-19-199.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:58.31 | tharkun | Gentlemen, I know it is indeed a little ot, but what could be wrong when i traceroute my.public.ip.here and i only get to the firewall just prior to the adsl. And when i do traceroute yahoo.com i get a lot more information? |
| 17:59.04 | yoshio | nirazio, there is an /etc/default/acpi-support file, with the comment -- Comment this out to disable screen locking on resume -- doesn't affect me for some reason |
| 17:59.22 | yoshio | on debian |
| 18:00.47 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~DanDare@189.59.174.50) |
| 18:00.49 | nirazio | Thankyou :) |
| 18:01.12 | dominicus | tharkun: There's nothing odd about it. Each router along the way has two interfaces, it all comes down to whether or not someplace along the way is preventing traceroute packets from gettings through in one of the directions. And just in case you're wondering, it doesn't mean anything is broken or non-functional. I'm not sure the real reason behind why some ISPs/Networks do it, but they just do. |
| 18:01.19 | *** join/#debian Matkinson (~Matkinson@97-102.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 18:01.38 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:01.41 | Iridos | hm, not sure I've seen that - I always assumed it's locked because more time passed than the threshold |
| 18:02.38 | Iridos | and indeed on a very short suspend the screen isn't locked, only when I suspend for longer |
| 18:02.52 | Iridos | dunno, that option doesn't seem to have an effect, then |
| 18:03.40 | Iridos | dunno if "gnome or kde power management daemons are running," |
| 18:03.59 | *** join/#debian johndoy (~JohnDoy@iskon2228.duo.carnet.hr) |
| 18:04.11 | Iridos | well, there's gnome-power-manager |
| 18:04.54 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 18:04.58 | *** join/#debian Dunedan (~dunedan@phoenitydawn.de) |
| 18:05.17 | Iridos | jhutchins_lt, any idea since when that "sticky" hold thing exists, then? |
| 18:05.40 | *** join/#debian WaterDog (~dwz@dhcp92.cmh.ee.net) |
| 18:06.55 | *** join/#debian Italian_Plumber (~Italian_P@h128.96.82.166.static.ip.windstream.net) |
| 18:07.12 | *** join/#debian rwrd (~rwrd@5357F9A1.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 18:07.12 | *** join/#debian rwrd (~rwrd@unaffiliated/rwrd) |
| 18:08.00 | *** join/#debian ixti (~ixti@217.70.249.69) |
| 18:08.25 | *** join/#debian gnoob (~a@165.121.189.109.customer.cdi.no) |
| 18:08.59 | *** join/#debian skamikaze (~basti@188-195-144-211-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:08.59 | *** join/#debian skamikaze (~basti@unaffiliated/skamikaze) |
| 18:09.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 973] by debhelper |
| 18:09.20 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 18:09.56 | *** join/#debian dany__ (~quassel@client-82-0-89-42.sdn-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) |
| 18:10.12 | *** join/#debian rick` (~rcs@108.90.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 18:10.16 | *** join/#debian heg (~heg@dyn.144-85-141-171.dsl.vtx.ch) |
| 18:10.24 | *** join/#debian mi (~mi@unaffiliated/mi) |
| 18:10.42 | *** join/#debian derick_ (~derick@52499DFE.cm-4-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 18:10.53 | rick` | is there a fix for this issue: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/0ee7a421bdc0051e?pli=1 |
| 18:11.05 | *** join/#debian Tuxi (~quassel@host-091-097-106-190.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 18:11.22 | derick_ | sometimes unpacking and processing a package while installing, takes a lot of time >25 sec, how come? |
| 18:11.28 | derick_ | feels not good... |
| 18:11.44 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@dslb-188-097-184-019.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:12.10 | *** join/#debian trbs (~trbs@2001:470:d2ad:1:4a5b:39ff:fe7d:1624) |
| 18:13.05 | *** join/#debian Negrovences (~negrovenc@189.175.204.25) |
| 18:14.31 | *** join/#debian sechrist (~sechrist@64-79-127-110.static.wiline.com) |
| 18:14.42 | *** join/#debian dekar_ (~dekar@drms-4d0149a1.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 18:15.56 | *** join/#debian rafuch0 (~flux@200.84.135.138) |
| 18:16.15 | *** join/#debian ungage (~a@dsl-fixed-94-30-53-26.interdsl.co.uk) |
| 18:16.27 | *** join/#debian mft (~mft@70.74.80.184) |
| 18:16.43 | *** join/#debian erez (~erez@mailx.primegaming.com) |
| 18:17.51 | *** join/#debian erez (~erez@mailx.primegaming.com) |
| 18:18.42 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mapp3-0-0-cust318.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:19.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 979] by debhelper |
| 18:19.06 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 18:19.39 | *** part/#debian mcb_ (~marcos@189-87-254-123.poolip.BHE.embratel.net.br) |
| 18:21.18 | Iridos | derick_, check dmesg for disk errors |
| 18:21.25 | Iridos | (or other errors) |
| 18:21.34 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 18:21.47 | *** join/#debian eoliva (~eoliva@189-039-007-100.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) |
| 18:23.19 | dany__ | no one? |
| 18:23.39 | *** join/#debian me|kor (~melkor@91-66-109-228-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:24.29 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
| 18:24.32 | Iridos | no one what |
| 18:24.52 | Iridos | you didn't ask anything |
| 18:25.15 | abrotman | he did actually |
| 18:25.28 | Iridos | not since I'm here... just changed the amount of "_" a couple of times |
| 18:25.33 | abrotman | dany__: what is the strange new address? |
| 18:25.33 | *** join/#debian dimas_ (~dimas@18-243-252-87-dynamic-pool.gprs.mts.by) |
| 18:26.05 | *** part/#debian agarfu (~agarfu@85.155.84.92.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 18:26.35 | dany__ | abrotman: now I am not in that system but it's something different from the first |
| 18:26.48 | dany__ | not like 192.168.x.x |
| 18:26.56 | abrotman | 169.254.x.x ? |
| 18:28.07 | *** join/#debian guNNerSS (~Bersirc@201.22.86.124.static.gvt.net.br) |
| 18:28.10 | *** join/#debian atoi (~Dan@c-24-5-175-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 18:29.08 | atoi | Lenny isn't EOL yet, is it? |
| 18:29.43 | tharkun | atoi: you need first squeeze to be released and then you get a full year support for free |
| 18:30.04 | atoi | Sorry, what? |
| 18:30.32 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@rc137-1-82-233-159-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:30.44 | tharkun | Lenny isn't EOL and you have at least one full year before it does |
| 18:31.27 | *** join/#debian f8l (~f8l@77-255-18-167.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 18:31.40 | *** join/#debian maydayjay (~mayday_ja@noon.nas.net) |
| 18:31.44 | atoi | OK |
| 18:32.11 | atoi | The reason I ask is that the apache2 available with vanilla lenny is out of date, security wise, and I'm having trouble passing PCI compliance because of it. |
| 18:32.32 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 18:32.40 | atoi | So I'm wondering how/where to upgrade to apache 2.2.16 or 2.2.17 on lenny. |
| 18:32.42 | *** join/#debian G_O_D (~marco@186.136.193.26) |
| 18:32.55 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 18:32.56 | jordanm | atoi: they are often false positives that need to be explained the people doing the PCI compliance scan |
| 18:33.13 | bloodcry | All security patches have been backported, atoi. |
| 18:33.22 | atoi | That's true but 2.2.15, at least, fixes some severe... |
| 18:33.28 | jordanm | atoi: those scans typically only look at the version number. you will find most if not all of those security vulnerabilities have been patched in debian's version of apache |
| 18:33.34 | atoi | I see, I see. |
| 18:33.38 | atoi | OK. |
| 18:33.47 | atoi | So my question is, and I'm sorry for being so unfamiliar, where can I point the PCI people to see that? |
| 18:33.54 | *** join/#debian xlotlu (~john@188.27.108.142) |
| 18:33.57 | *** join/#debian wthtt (veter@dyn-17-163.e-sky.ru) |
| 18:33.57 | jordanm | atoi: so you will need to show the changelogs to the PCI people showing that the vulnerabilities they have pointed out have been fixed |
| 18:34.09 | *** join/#debian m314 (~user@0x573f21e5.arcnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 18:34.11 | atoi | jordanm, the changelogs for the packages? |
| 18:34.23 | derick_ | Iridos, http://fpaste.org/PFYu/ hhm can't find errors so far |
| 18:34.38 | atoi | jordanm, is that on the debian site or can I query the package itself... |
| 18:34.49 | jordanm | atoi: yes. usually the PCI people give you a nice CVE format that you can look up in debian's security tracker. linking to the security tracker pages may be enough |
| 18:35.11 | jordanm | atoi: packages.debian.org has links to the changelogs |
| 18:35.15 | *** join/#debian BLZbubba_ (~mark@tpsit.com) |
| 18:35.18 | jordanm | !tracker of doom |
| 18:35.19 | dpkg | tracker of doom is probably The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/. Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan>.read http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ or http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences |
| 18:35.24 | *** join/#debian Uranellus (~alexander@unaffiliated/uranellus) |
| 18:35.25 | atoi | wonderful. Yes, I do see CVE numbers. |
| 18:35.37 | *** join/#debian mYute (~stranded@unaffiliated/myute) |
| 18:35.55 | Iridos | derick_, well, then there's top and iotop you can check - or you can strace the process if that doesn't provide a clue or possibly debug with gdb |
| 18:35.56 | jordanm | hates dealing with PCI compliance |
| 18:36.03 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 18:36.04 | BLZbubba_ | i installed squeeze with the default gui, but i noticed that /etc/skel is pretty much empty. how do I set the default applets to load on the gnome panel for new users? |
| 18:36.06 | Iridos | although the latter might be difficult |
| 18:36.13 | *** join/#debian WaterDog (~dwz@dhcp92.cmh.ee.net) |
| 18:36.17 | *** join/#debian pocketuni (~pocketuni@ppp91-78-236-195.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 18:36.19 | derick_ | [ 1.115699] PM: Resume from disk failed. |
| 18:36.56 | Iridos | did you _try_ to resume from disk? |
| 18:36.57 | *** part/#debian [da] (~da@net84-253-144-072.mclink.it) |
| 18:37.40 | derick_ | no |
| 18:38.00 | *** join/#debian malte`_` (~anonymous@188.108.107.107) |
| 18:38.03 | *** join/#debian sechrist (~sechrist@64-79-127-110.static.wiline.com) |
| 18:38.26 | derick_ | Iridos, ^ |
| 18:38.48 | *** join/#debian corretico (~corretico@201.201.44.82) |
| 18:38.49 | *** join/#debian dany_ (~quassel@client-82-0-89-42.sdn-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) |
| 18:39.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 985] by debhelper |
| 18:39.05 | derick_ | Iridos, I did check with htop, but nothing special |
| 18:39.16 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h139n1c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 18:39.34 | derick_ | Iridos, maybe a hdd check utility? |
| 18:39.48 | jordanm | derick_: you should probably be looking at the %wa specifically |
| 18:40.30 | derick_ | jordanm, %wa? |
| 18:40.55 | jordanm | derick_: i/o wait percentage. near the top of the top screen |
| 18:41.00 | *** join/#debian emachado (~edjunior@fsf/member/emachado) |
| 18:41.17 | *** part/#debian pocketuni (~pocketuni@ppp91-78-236-195.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 18:41.31 | derick_ | jordanm, when using htop? |
| 18:41.44 | jordanm | no idea |
| 18:41.49 | *** join/#debian rwrd (~rwrd@5357F9A1.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 18:41.49 | *** join/#debian rwrd (~rwrd@unaffiliated/rwrd) |
| 18:41.55 | jordanm | I am sure it shows i/o loads somewhere |
| 18:42.08 | *** join/#debian josep_ (~josep_@245.Red-83-43-121.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:42.16 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a81-84-11-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 18:42.22 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@dslb-188-097-184-019.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:42.44 | *** join/#debian Batchy (~batchy@AVelizy-155-1-8-47.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:43.51 | derick_ | jordanm, Load average: 0.11 0.07 0.07 |
| 18:44.25 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@206.251.22.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 18:45.40 | *** join/#debian bp0 (~bp@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net) |
| 18:45.40 | *** join/#debian bp0 (~bp@unaffiliated/bp0) |
| 18:46.08 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-24-13-1-200.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 18:46.48 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 18:47.08 | jordanm | derick_: thats not really what your looking for, but nice low averages... |
| 18:47.28 | derick_ | jordanm, hmm |
| 18:47.29 | *** join/#debian rwrd (~rwrd@5357F9A1.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 18:47.29 | *** join/#debian rwrd (~rwrd@unaffiliated/rwrd) |
| 18:47.58 | jordanm | derick_: the point was to perform the specified action and see if i/o wait % increases, which means that the time that it takes is due to the r/w speeds of the disk |
| 18:48.08 | *** join/#debian Bastihase (~bastihase@178.1.6.23) |
| 18:48.09 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@190.194.29.28) |
| 18:50.29 | Iridos | and "load average" is something very different from "i/o load" |
| 18:51.13 | derick_ | CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT not enabled in kernel, cannot determine SWAPIN and IO % |
| 18:51.46 | derick_ | Unpacking replacement libboost1.40-dev .. |
| 18:51.54 | derick_ | takes a long time again... |
| 18:52.00 | Iridos | what command gives you that? |
| 18:52.01 | jordanm | sounds like you are running inside of a VZ container |
| 18:52.09 | jordanm | Iridos: iotop most likely |
| 18:52.17 | Iridos | oh, maybe |
| 18:52.20 | derick_ | iotop |
| 18:52.23 | Iridos | but never seen that on a Debian kernel |
| 18:52.59 | jordanm | Iridos: if its inside a VZ container, its likely not on a debian kernel. its probably on a RHEL openvz kernel |
| 18:53.03 | derick_ | Iḿ on a RT kernel atm |
| 18:53.05 | jordanm | derick_: what is the output of uname -a? |
| 18:53.09 | Iridos | oh, and btw. what are all those "--channel=4256.0xbc3b3c60.1025928741" 'processes' that iotop shows? |
| 18:53.13 | *** join/#debian Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 18:53.47 | derick_ | still busy.... |
| 18:53.57 | Iridos | perhaps some interprocess i/o |
| 18:54.01 | *** part/#debian nueve (~zsictst@96.Red-80-35-38.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:54.24 | derick_ | maybe reboot to a default kernel? |
| 18:54.47 | jordanm | I don't know about RT kernels or the implications they have to system performance |
| 18:54.54 | jordanm | you can try and see if there is a difference |
| 18:55.15 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 18:55.18 | derick_ | where to look at in iotop? |
| 18:55.29 | derick_ | done... |
| 18:55.41 | derick_ | package reinstalled |
| 18:55.46 | derick_ | took a while... |
| 18:55.54 | *** join/#debian Commander1024 (~Commander@ip-109-91-126-125.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 18:56.01 | jordanm | I suggested just using top |
| 18:56.01 | derick_ | disk write varied from 300 till 1000 |
| 18:56.11 | Iridos | just look for something with high loads... and look for "%wa" valus in top |
| 18:57.13 | BLZbubba_ | derick_: what is your initial problem? |
| 18:57.13 | derick_ | 45.5%wa |
| 18:57.27 | *** join/#debian osfd (~olivier@rke75-8-78-225-170-15.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:57.29 | *** join/#debian Moonunit_ (~moonunit@231.4-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:57.47 | *** join/#debian darkskiez (~mhb@darkskiez.ipv6.darkskiez.co.uk) |
| 18:57.50 | *** join/#debian TheFox21 (~TheFox21_@d86-32-186-54.cust.tele2.at) |
| 18:58.07 | derick_ | BLZbubba_, Iḿ installing libboost1.40-dev for example |
| 18:58.30 | derick_ | BLZbubba_, takes a long time to Unpacking replacement libboost1.40-dev ... |
| 18:58.43 | Iridos | yeah... see, it's spending ~50% of the time waiting for the disk |
| 18:58.53 | BLZbubba_ | what kind of disk is it? |
| 18:59.12 | BLZbubba_ | anything weird in dmesg? |
| 18:59.20 | *** join/#debian Deathvalley122 (~Death@unaffiliated/deathvalley122) |
| 18:59.20 | Iridos | ... or for some other i/o activity |
| 18:59.37 | derick_ | still busy |
| 18:59.43 | BLZbubba_ | the low load av is interesting |
| 19:00.06 | BLZbubba_ | i like your idea of trying a non-rt kernel |
| 19:00.22 | derick_ | jbd2/sda8-8 |
| 19:00.31 | *** join/#debian fas3r (~fas3r@212.51.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 19:01.07 | derick_ | sirq-block/1 |
| 19:01.18 | derick_ | still busy |
| 19:02.14 | *** join/#debian speekix (~roberto@94.161.183.132) |
| 19:02.31 | jhutchins_lt | derick_: How big is the .deb file? |
| 19:02.50 | jhutchins_lt | derick_: How much disk does it say it's going to use? |
| 19:03.35 | *** join/#debian lumines (~lumines-f@p508EFE0F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:03.50 | *** join/#debian La0fer (~Laofers1@64.120.233.114) |
| 19:04.06 | derick_ | Need to get 0B/6,149kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. |
| 19:04.11 | derick_ | = reinstall |
| 19:04.25 | *** join/#debian proller (~proller@188.123.230.122) |
| 19:04.51 | *** join/#debian gjs (~gjs@GSWoT/Member/gjs) |
| 19:04.51 | atoi | damnit. |
| 19:05.04 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 19:05.20 | atoi | Looks like lenny hasn't patched CVE-2009-0023, CVE-2009-1955, or CVE-2009-1956. Or I'm not finding it in the apache2 changelog for Lenny. |
| 19:05.54 | derick_ | Drive Model ATA WDC WD1600BEVS-08RST2 |
| 19:06.06 | derick_ | 160 GB |
| 19:06.12 | derick_ | 5400 rpm afaik |
| 19:06.25 | atoi | oh wait. |
| 19:06.26 | jordanm | atoi: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2009-0023 |
| 19:06.29 | atoi | just different packages. |
| 19:06.31 | BLZbubba_ | derick_: try the default kernel |
| 19:06.35 | derick_ | k |
| 19:06.53 | atoi | thanks jordanm |
| 19:06.53 | jordanm | atoi: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2009-1956 http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2009-1956 |
| 19:06.53 | derick_ | but this kernel should work also |
| 19:07.00 | jordanm | atoi: all marked as fixed in lenny :) |
| 19:07.26 | derick_ | I don't think it is the kernel, although iotop might work on the other kernel |
| 19:08.02 | *** join/#debian feisar (~simon@178.106.207.136) |
| 19:08.09 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions apach2-mpm-prefork |
| 19:08.10 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'apach2-mpm-prefork' was found in i386. |
| 19:08.16 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions apache2-mpm-prefork |
| 19:08.17 | judd | Package apache2-mpm-prefork on i386 -- etch: 2.2.3-4+etch11; etch-security: 2.2.3-4+etch11; lenny-security: 2.2.9-10+lenny7; lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.2.16-4~bpo50+1; sid: 2.2.16-4; squeeze: 2.2.16-4 |
| 19:08.37 | *** join/#debian ceduardo (~ceduard0@186.80.228.71) |
| 19:10.41 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@96.sub-75-208-75.myvzw.com) |
| 19:10.44 | derick_ | not all the packages takes so long... |
| 19:10.53 | derick_ | others seems pretty normal |
| 19:12.43 | derick_ | reinstalling libjack-dev seems 100% normal |
| 19:12.46 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 19:13.09 | derick_ | disk is healty |
| 19:13.15 | derick_ | bad sectors none |
| 19:14.03 | derick_ | with two packages I noticed a strange long wait time |
| 19:14.12 | *** join/#debian Bartzy (~Bar@85.64.236.16.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 19:14.16 | *** join/#debian shamrock (shamrock@85.183.18.158) |
| 19:14.17 | derick_ | reinstalling one of them gives always that problem |
| 19:14.30 | derick_ | strange... |
| 19:14.31 | *** join/#debian dany_ (~quassel@client-82-0-89-42.sdn-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) |
| 19:15.43 | derick_ | 21%wa is highest value with a 'normal ' package |
| 19:16.49 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@178.4.43.59) |
| 19:16.56 | Iridos | well, strace it if you care and see what it does during the wait |
| 19:17.01 | hid3 | Good evening everyone. After an upgrade from lenny to squeeze my mysql server does not want to start. It says 'failed' when I try to start it. Any ideas what went wrong? |
| 19:17.47 | Bushmills | you could tell us what went wrong, after looking at logs |
| 19:17.58 | Deathvalley122 | can someone help me with this http://pastebin.com/cy3VVqhg |
| 19:17.59 | derick_ | Iridos, how to strace it? |
| 19:18.04 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 19:18.11 | Bushmills | daemon.log could be a candidate |
| 19:18.16 | hid3 | I have the logs for mysql disabled |
| 19:18.21 | stew | hid3: run "mysqld" as root on the command line and see what it says |
| 19:18.22 | Bushmills | smart move |
| 19:18.23 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@tmo-101-163.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 19:18.26 | *** join/#debian MartyD (~MartyD@unaffiliated/martyd) |
| 19:18.34 | stew | hid3: most likely your my.cnf has a option specified which is no longer supported |
| 19:18.34 | *** join/#debian daedaluz (~daedaluz@dyn82-149.yok.fi) |
| 19:18.52 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 19:19.11 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 19:19.36 | *** join/#debian CargolSS (~marius@79.115.60.191) |
| 19:19.40 | hid3 | It says it can't find mysql.plugin table |
| 19:19.47 | hid3 | I'm sure such doesn't exist |
| 19:19.50 | hid3 | never heard of this one |
| 19:21.44 | atoi | jordanm, crap. Heh. http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2009-1956 |
| 19:21.49 | atoi | Lenny _does_ have a vulnerability. |
| 19:22.07 | atoi | oh, wait. |
| 19:22.11 | atoi | that's oldstable. |
| 19:23.18 | malte`_` | whois fefe |
| 19:23.24 | *** join/#debian pLk (~mail@xdsl-92-252-16-58.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 19:23.25 | *** join/#debian s1gnius (~signius@217.155.69.102) |
| 19:24.22 | *** join/#debian malte`_` (~anonymous@188.108.107.107) |
| 19:26.44 | CargolSS | <pastebin> |
| 19:27.05 | hid3 | The migration and compatability process should be made much smoother! It shouldn't mess a runnign system |
| 19:28.32 | *** part/#debian CargolSS (~marius@79.115.60.191) |
| 19:29.04 | *** join/#debian CrashFr (~CrashFr@sto93-2-82-228-142-248.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:29.08 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 19:29.42 | hid3 | dammit. I need to start that mysqld NOW |
| 19:29.44 | *** join/#debian cga (~cga@82.84.172.226) |
| 19:29.48 | *** join/#debian ventsislav (~ventsisla@77.70.14.236) |
| 19:30.46 | stew | hid3: i'd guess that you need to mysql_upgrade (which should have been done by the mysql-server-5.1 postinst scripts for you) |
| 19:31.02 | *** join/#debian ponyofdeath (~vladi@user-0c9hb8u.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 19:31.34 | hid3 | there isn't a mysql_update binary in my system... |
| 19:31.58 | stew | hid3: is ther a mysql_upgrade? |
| 19:32.02 | acemi | hid3: did you try mysql 5.0 |
| 19:32.06 | atoi | ballsack. This really is a vulnerability: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2010-1452 |
| 19:32.13 | atoi | I dunno _what_ to do about that. |
| 19:32.21 | *** join/#debian Techtronic (~minde@86.100.239.46) |
| 19:32.32 | *** part/#debian danols (~none@dynamic-66-102-71-5.wtccommunications.ca) |
| 19:32.35 | hid3 | I didn't try anything mysqlf, I just did a dist-upgrade and it replaced the 5.0 with 5.1 |
| 19:32.40 | hid3 | now a no-start condition |
| 19:32.44 | hid3 | (on a production server) |
| 19:32.52 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 19:33.16 | *** join/#debian Youri (~youri@541F74C3.cm-5-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 19:33.34 | *** join/#debian rmonteiraum (~raphaelmo@186.212.248.77) |
| 19:33.38 | *** part/#debian rmonteiraum (~raphaelmo@186.212.248.77) |
| 19:33.57 | *** join/#debian danols (~none@dynamic-66-102-71-5.wtccommunications.ca) |
| 19:34.39 | hid3 | great... |
| 19:34.55 | *** join/#debian The_Machine (~Euphoria@83-70-45.static.customer.clearrate.com) |
| 19:35.33 | tharkun | hid3: did you try to start mysql from a terminal as root. If so what showed up on the console? |
| 19:35.47 | *** join/#debian pigdude (~pigdude@206.205.125.75) |
| 19:36.03 | pigdude | where is `sh` on my debian machine? /bin/sh -> /bin/bash ?! |
| 19:36.25 | tharkun | pigdude: which sh |
| 19:36.32 | stew | pigdude: did you just answer your own question? |
| 19:36.52 | hid3 | tharkun: http://pastebin.com/nbbUzxkj . And I do NOT have another mysqld instance running as it says |
| 19:37.48 | stew | hid3: yes, this also says that you need to ru mysql_upgrade, did you try that yet? |
| 19:37.58 | pigdude | stew: possibly, I'm a bit baffled that there is no `sh` fallback to `bash` |
| 19:38.07 | pigdude | stew: so I thought maybe it is hidden somewhere |
| 19:38.12 | *** join/#debian wertik_any (~wertik@95-26-90-147.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 19:38.12 | stew | pigdude: sh IS bash |
| 19:38.16 | pigdude | stew: but env sh -> bash too |
| 19:38.19 | pigdude | stew: that's bullshit but ok |
| 19:38.21 | hid3 | stew: once again, PLEASE listen to what I say: there is NO SUCH binary named mysql_update! |
| 19:38.29 | stew | pigdude: what do you mean "bullshit"? |
| 19:38.31 | pigdude | stew: sorry, that was very coarse of me |
| 19:38.36 | pigdude | stew: I mean you're incorrect |
| 19:38.49 | stew | hid3: PLEASE read what I say, "mysql_upgrade, not mysql_update" |
| 19:38.51 | pigdude | stew: bash has several features and builtins not present in sh |
| 19:39.07 | pigdude | stew: so I'd like to be able to test my /bin/sh scripts properly. what might I do? |
| 19:39.07 | *** join/#debian ponyofdeath (~vladi@user-0c9hb8u.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 19:39.11 | stew | pigdude: use posh |
| 19:39.17 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 19:39.24 | nirazio | When my internet connection goes down (which happens rather frequently here) and empathy disconnects it drops notifications for new messages. So if I haven't opened the conversation window, I will probably never notice a message someone has sent me that I didn't catch in time. Is there a way for empathy to remind you of new messages even after disconnects? |
| 19:39.25 | *** join/#debian JoshH (~josh@2607:fa18:100:8000:191::) |
| 19:39.31 | *** join/#debian naphex (~naphex@ANice-157-1-3-212.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:39.34 | stew | pigdude: and no, i'm not incorrect, as shown by yourself |
| 19:39.35 | hid3 | stew: still, there isn't anything called mysql_up* |
| 19:39.42 | hid3 | they forgot to include the binary |
| 19:39.49 | stew | no, they didn't |
| 19:39.54 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@host23-74-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:39.54 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@unaffiliated/madi) |
| 19:39.56 | *** join/#debian Nextop (~Anderson@unaffiliated/alpsinc) |
| 19:39.59 | pigdude | stew: so suggest that sh is feature-complete bash is a bit silly... |
| 19:40.00 | hid3 | just great |
| 19:40.03 | pigdude | *to |
| 19:40.08 | stew | judd: file usr/bin/mysql_upgrade --release squeeze |
| 19:40.12 | judd | usr/bin/mysql_upgrade in squeeze/i386: mysql-server-5.1: usr/bin/mysql_upgrade |
| 19:40.15 | *** join/#debian h3sp4wn (~h3sp4wn@unaffiliated/h3sp4wn) |
| 19:40.23 | *** join/#debian axisys (~axisys@ip68-98-177-71.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 19:40.41 | stew | pigdude: what does "readlink -f $(which sh)" return for you? |
| 19:41.02 | hid3 | # ls /usr/bin/ | grep mysql_up |wc -l |
| 19:41.02 | hid3 | 0 |
| 19:41.09 | pigdude | stew: I do not question that sh is linked to bash on my system, and that test bears that out |
| 19:41.16 | *** join/#debian RCP (~RCP@unaffiliated/rcp) |
| 19:41.25 | tharkun | hid3: dpkg -l|grep mysql |
| 19:41.27 | axisys | on sun fire x4150 it has adaptect raid hba .. i am wondering if i should make raid1 array using the controller card or should I go with software raid |
| 19:41.40 | pigdude | stew: this is not standard on redhat systems, for instance, so I need /bin/sh to test in a real 'sh'. I suppose I can use posh...but something seems very awry here to me |
| 19:41.44 | axisys | anyone can tell if adaptect raid controller card any good ? |
| 19:42.12 | *** join/#debian jonmasters (~jcm@edison.jonmasters.org) |
| 19:42.14 | stew | pigdude: bash is a real sh. posh is created exactly for your purpose (to make sure that bashisms aren't in your sh scripts) |
| 19:42.30 | hid3 | tharkun: what should I be looking for there? |
| 19:42.31 | stew | pigdude: fwiw, debian is switching from bash to dash for the default sh |
| 19:42.34 | pigdude | stew: oh, I know very well that bash is a compliant shell |
| 19:42.55 | pigdude | stew: ok, I will use posh I guess. this just seems very backwards to me... |
| 19:43.01 | pigdude | stew: from a testing perspective |
| 19:43.03 | *** join/#debian hatoon (hatoon@neon.surgehost.net) |
| 19:43.04 | stew | hid3: is the mysql-server-5.1 package installed? |
| 19:43.10 | tharkun | hid3: for something missing like mysql-common or somehting like that |
| 19:43.16 | pigdude | stew: I guess one can bet their life on bash behaving identically to sh, save bashisms? |
| 19:43.21 | stew | tharkun: no, see judd's output above |
| 19:43.37 | hid3 | LOL |
| 19:43.39 | stew | pigdude: bash is sh |
| 19:43.42 | stew | pigdude: so yes |
| 19:43.48 | hid3 | it had mysql 5.1 core but not mysql-server-5.1 |
| 19:43.54 | hid3 | Why did it remove it? :( |
| 19:44.29 | tharkun | stew: hermm you are right, missed that line |
| 19:45.29 | hid3 | It's running now. Thanks tharkun, stew. I'm really sorry for being nervous and angry but those upgrades are driving me crazy. Besides, I had a terrible system crash yesterday. :( |
| 19:46.05 | stew | looks like /bin/sh -> bash on my redhat systems too |
| 19:46.21 | tharkun | hid3: np |
| 19:46.34 | stew | pigdude: there is also /usr/bin/checkbashisms in devscripts if you want to look for non-posix stuff in a script |
| 19:47.26 | pigdude | stew: oh cool, thanks, I'll use that for sure |
| 19:48.16 | hid3 | OK, another problem. After the dist-upgrade, I can't access symlinks in Samba shares. Any ideas what might have changed? |
| 19:48.57 | *** join/#debian lanthan (~ze@p54B778A4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:49.13 | pigdude | stew: I haven't seen that on RHEL |
| 19:49.34 | pigdude | stew: on RHEL and related systems `sh` will invoke plain `sh` (here) |
| 19:49.41 | sphenxes | I have installed nVidia drivers for my Geforce 7300 LE. It works fine. Is it possible to upgrade to new nVidia graphic card without doing any changes to the driver or I must reinstall everything once more.(that is what i have done the following:apt-get -t unstable install nvidia-kernel-source |
| 19:49.52 | sphenxes | m-a a-i nvidia-kernel-source |
| 19:49.53 | pigdude | stew: but this may be some special bash behavior, who knows (judging by my discussions in #bash) |
| 19:50.32 | pigdude | stew: you are correct, it is symlinked there too. must be some special behavior |
| 19:50.34 | sphenxes | apt-get -t unstable install nvidia-glx |
| 19:50.43 | sphenxes | apt-get install nvidia-xconfig) |
| 19:51.48 | h3sp4wn | sphenxes: Depends on what the card is |
| 19:52.37 | *** join/#debian resmo (~moserre@adsl-84-227-29-135.adslplus.ch) |
| 19:52.58 | sphenxes | h3sp4wn, I am ready to do it once more. but my problem how can I delete the old driver, kernel, ... and all the changes that I have done |
| 19:53.26 | sphenxes | h3sp4wn, i am afraid that i will crash my system |
| 19:53.43 | h3sp4wn | sphenxes: You shouldn't have to change anything (unless its very new or very old card) |
| 19:53.44 | stew | pigdude: there is no such thing as "plain sh" in debian |
| 19:54.36 | stew | pigdude: "If bash is invoked with the name sh, it tries to mimic the startup behavior of historical versions of sh as closely as possible, while conforming to the POSIX standard as well" |
| 19:54.44 | *** join/#debian luminoso_ (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 19:55.10 | abrotman | eh, isn't sh defaulting to dash in squeeze+ ? |
| 19:55.30 | stew | yes |
| 19:55.45 | abrotman | just noticed your "sh is bash" comment above |
| 19:55.47 | abrotman | runs away |
| 19:55.52 | stew | abrotman: it is on his system |
| 19:56.20 | *** join/#debian guzu (~guzu@89.136.7.213) |
| 19:56.24 | guzu | hello all |
| 19:56.38 | *** join/#debian SimManiac (~kvirc@232.Red-88-26-245.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:56.46 | guzu | how can i update grub after installing a new os? i'm in squeeze |
| 19:56.57 | *** join/#debian poncha|laptop (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 19:58.27 | acemi | guzu: did the new os install a boot loader? |
| 19:58.32 | SimManiac | guzu: update the configuration |
| 19:58.46 | SimManiac | -> /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 19:58.50 | SimManiac | if using grub2 |
| 19:58.57 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 19:59.00 | SimManiac | -> /boot/grub/menu.lst for legacy |
| 19:59.41 | guzu | acemi, apparently not |
| 19:59.54 | acemi | guzu: then update-grub |
| 19:59.55 | guzu | SimManiac, how? |
| 20:00.10 | guzu | acemi, update-grub didn't add it |
| 20:00.26 | acemi | guzu: is os-prober installed |
| 20:00.42 | SimManiac | guzu: read the manual and add the proper lines :) |
| 20:00.49 | SimManiac | hint: the deafult cfg file has nice comments on it |
| 20:01.24 | acemi | SimManiac: os-prober does this automatically |
| 20:01.35 | SimManiac | ah, nice :) |
| 20:01.36 | *** join/#debian homie (~user@xdsl-78-35-172-3.netcologne.de) |
| 20:02.18 | *** join/#debian pLk (~mail@xdsl-92-252-16-58.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 20:02.26 | *** join/#debian Satpol (~Satpol@unaffiliated/satpol) |
| 20:03.29 | *** join/#debian blue112 (~blue112@unaffiliated/blue112) |
| 20:03.33 | blue112 | Hello here. |
| 20:03.42 | guzu | it's grub2 after all |
| 20:03.53 | blue112 | Is this the good place to have some place for troubleshooting a teamspeak 2 server ? |
| 20:04.47 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-213-226-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 20:04.58 | jhutchins_lt | SimManiac: Actually, /boot/grub/grub.cfg, 2nd line: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE |
| 20:05.49 | SimManiac | jhutchins: sure. Then edit the proper /etc/grub.d/ file instead |
| 20:05.54 | SimManiac | and update-grub as desired :) |
| 20:06.14 | jhutchins_lt | blue112: Not really, not many teamspeak users here. If it's a debian issue, basic system config we might be able to help but if the problem is with teamspeak you'll need to go to them. |
| 20:06.22 | jhutchins_lt | SimManiac: No. |
| 20:06.43 | jhutchins_lt | The files in grub.d are mostly the grub modules. |
| 20:06.45 | guzu | ok here's the truth (R) |
| 20:07.03 | blue112 | jhutchins_lt, I think it's a system config problem : I'm just not able to connect to my teamspeak server, while it's listening on UDP port :/ |
| 20:07.27 | guzu | some fedora 14 version was installed and if any bootloader was installed, it was installed to the partition bootsector |
| 20:07.43 | guzu | how can i add a chainloader +1 etc section in grub2cfg? |
| 20:08.20 | pipeline | blue112: mumble is way better than teamspeak anyway :) |
| 20:08.37 | pipeline | blue112: it's genuinely dfsg-free and has some really cool features... most notably, auto-volume-adjustment. No more morons deafening you with loud mics. |
| 20:08.41 | darkestkhan | on my system sh points to dash |
| 20:09.06 | blue112 | pipeline, I have a mumur server running, but now, I want a teamspeak server too =) |
| 20:09.25 | SimManiac | jhutchins: no, they are the files that you should edit (or add your own) to generate the final grub.cfg file |
| 20:09.34 | jhutchins_lt | SimManiac: No. |
| 20:09.38 | *** join/#debian Tommy_DO (~asdf@i53876AB1.versanet.de) |
| 20:09.49 | SimManiac | #!/bin/sh |
| 20:09.49 | SimManiac | exec tail -n +3 $0 |
| 20:09.50 | SimManiac | # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the |
| 20:09.50 | SimManiac | # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change |
| 20:09.50 | SimManiac | # the 'exec tail' line above. |
| 20:09.50 | *** kick/#debian [SimManiac!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste) |
| 20:10.02 | *** join/#debian jm|earth (~jm@p57B9C5B3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:10.02 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a81-84-11-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 20:10.13 | *** join/#debian SimManiac (~kvirc@232.Red-88-26-245.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:10.16 | SimManiac | meh, sorry for that |
| 20:10.28 | *** join/#debian malte`_`_ (~anonymous@188.108.209.232) |
| 20:10.36 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 20:10.45 | SimManiac | jhutchins: you can cat /etc/grub.d/40_custom |
| 20:10.47 | SimManiac | by yourself |
| 20:10.51 | SimManiac | and find that you are wrong :) |
| 20:11.02 | SimManiac | (no offense!) |
| 20:11.56 | blue112 | Well, any help, or any other channel I can ask =) . |
| 20:12.00 | blue112 | -. +? |
| 20:12.06 | jhutchins_lt | grub.d is intended as a place for packages to drop modules for update-grub. |
| 20:12.19 | jhutchins_lt | Most changes for Debian should be made in /etc/default/grub |
| 20:12.30 | *** join/#debian Crashbit (~kian@84.123.241.80.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 20:12.31 | *** join/#debian peppe2 (~peppe@unaffiliated/peppe) |
| 20:12.34 | *** join/#debian shahri (~shahri@dslb-084-063-241-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:12.35 | SimManiac | jhutchins_lt: chapter and verse, please? |
| 20:12.47 | Crashbit | hi |
| 20:13.09 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~kj4kjl@cpe-024-074-129-096.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 20:13.26 | SimManiac | the line that says "This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries" is clear enough to me |
| 20:13.32 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@201.228.234.146) |
| 20:13.35 | jhutchins_lt | blue112: http://forum.teamspeak.com/ |
| 20:13.47 | *** part/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 20:13.51 | SimManiac | and "modules" is just a funny way to say "configuration file parts" |
| 20:13.55 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_lt (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 20:13.57 | SimManiac | there's no magic |
| 20:13.59 | *** join/#debian fzeta (~fzeta@unaffiliated/fzeta) |
| 20:14.01 | SimManiac | just split up the configuration |
| 20:14.03 | blue112 | jhutchins_lt, most people here are windows users ._. |
| 20:14.05 | SimManiac | to make it easier to handle |
| 20:14.16 | *** join/#debian in2rd (~in2rd@cpe-75-80-207-51.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 20:14.41 | fzeta | hi |
| 20:14.45 | Crashbit | hi |
| 20:14.58 | jhutchins_lt | SimManiac: That's just part of the generic grub2 framework. |
| 20:15.53 | *** join/#debian Pryon (~Pryon@animalcules.com) |
| 20:15.58 | jhutchins_lt | It is appropriate to add menu entries as modules in grub.d, but changes to the default file generated by update-grub are mostly in the defaults file. |
| 20:16.20 | *** join/#debian poncha (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 20:16.32 | jhutchins_lt | SimManiac: The syntax of the existing files is complex and not very well documented yet, so messing with them is inadvisable. |
| 20:16.53 | SimManiac | jhutchins_lt: the configuration file is basically a "cat" of the grub.d files |
| 20:16.59 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@79.97.234.9) |
| 20:17.01 | SimManiac | well, cat or sh or whatever |
| 20:17.06 | SimManiac | but, THE way to add an entry |
| 20:17.14 | SimManiac | is effectively *editing* a file in grub.d |
| 20:17.24 | SimManiac | you can't add entires using /etc/default/grub |
| 20:17.25 | jhutchins_lt | More correctly creating one. |
| 20:17.25 | SimManiac | can you? |
| 20:17.37 | SimManiac | jhutchins_lt: or editing one of the custom files :P |
| 20:17.41 | jhutchins_lt | I think you probably can, I haven't done it |
| 20:17.52 | blue112 | What can make the UDP port not available from the outside ? I just don't understand :( |
| 20:17.59 | *** join/#debian Ambagasdowa (~leviathan@200.66.16.243) |
| 20:18.26 | jhutchins_lt | blue112: Either the software listening is only listening on loopback or the port is firewalled. |
| 20:18.30 | *** join/#debian me|kor (~melkor@91-66-109-228-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 20:18.44 | nirazio | Hello I have installed Apt-linker extension because I want to open apt links clicked in Chromium with xdg-open.How can I make Chromium open apt links with xdg-open? |
| 20:18.50 | blue112 | jhutchins_lt, netstat says : udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8767 0.0.0.0:* 109 5610502 1239/teamspeak-serv |
| 20:19.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 991] by debhelper |
| 20:19.14 | jhutchins_lt | blue112: Does nmap from an external host see it? |
| 20:19.18 | blue112 | How can I test if the port is firewalled (or check) ? |
| 20:19.29 | jhutchins_lt | iptables -L is one way. |
| 20:19.33 | blue112 | jhutchins_lt, how can I do an UDP nmap ? |
| 20:19.39 | jhutchins_lt | man nmap |
| 20:19.58 | *** join/#debian spope (~rico@cpe-76-167-166-28.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 20:20.00 | blue112 | jhutchins_lt, iptables is empty, I've even add a -p udp -j ACCEPT, to be sure :/ |
| 20:20.26 | blue112 | 8767/udp open|filtered unknown |
| 20:20.29 | blue112 | Humpf |
| 20:20.35 | darkestkhan | is it possible may I ask something? apt-doc is official documentation for apt or some silly joke ? |
| 20:21.07 | *** join/#debian abou_7anash_009 (~alinux@78.101.82.117) |
| 20:21.10 | jhutchins_lt | darkestkhan: Do you feel you could do better? |
| 20:21.42 | abou_7anash_009 | hi can anyone help me out about the filename+location that defines what the names of NICs eth0 / eth1 are bound to what mac addresses/NICs |
| 20:21.48 | stew | darkestkhan: yes, it is official documentation. no, this isn't ajoke |
| 20:22.00 | stew | abou_7anash_009: /msg dpkg 70 |
| 20:22.04 | abou_7anash_009 | I changed the slots of my NICs and all is messed up and they are not turning up |
| 20:23.04 | darkestkhan | it is something that I feared :/ |
| 20:23.31 | *** join/#debian bofh80 (~bofh80@93.97.177.151) |
| 20:24.27 | bofh80 | hi people, i'm running Squeeze. can i see what's running that's using the kde environment? ie kde is running, i'd like to know what's using it, possible ? |
| 20:24.30 | *** join/#debian goksin (~goksin@88.228.208.215) |
| 20:27.21 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 20:29.05 | *** join/#debian PacoTurbadin (~bot-KiAn@infong-es15.1and1.es) |
| 20:29.07 | PacoTurbadin | hi |
| 20:29.14 | stew | bofh80: perhaps "fuser /usr/lib/libkdecore*" |
| 20:31.20 | darkestkhan | is it possible to have in source.list ONLY documentation from contrib and non-free ? |
| 20:31.58 | OpenTokix | darkestkhan: Docoumentation? |
| 20:32.20 | bofh80 | hey stew, that just returns the cursor. i tried fuser /usr/bin/kded4 . didn't show anything either. fuser seems to be what i want tho, maybe whatever launched it has died ? |
| 20:33.04 | *** join/#debian ponyofdeath (~vladi@user-0c9hb8u.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 20:33.12 | *** join/#debian siriusnova (~Langley@ded.khan.su) |
| 20:33.23 | bofh80 | it's just i didn't think i had anything kde running, it used to be k3b but i bought nero, so i didn't install it this time round . can't remember installing anything with kde deps either, recently was just this banshee. hmm, i chek that |
| 20:33.54 | darkestkhan | OpenTokix: I want to install and update documentations from contrib and non-free repos ( mainly gcc-doc ) but I don't want any other applications from there |
| 20:34.07 | *** join/#debian elik (~elik@216.252.80.212) |
| 20:34.18 | bofh80 | not that. hmph. |
| 20:34.27 | OpenTokix | darkestkhan: Can't you just download the packages and get the doc from there? |
| 20:34.40 | *** join/#debian Boohemian (~Boohemian@149.130.214.8) |
| 20:35.43 | stew | darkestkhan: you can pin individual package names, but you won't be able to say "all documentation" |
| 20:36.15 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@201.228.234.24) |
| 20:36.16 | guzu | SimManiac, jhujhiti , acemi i believe update-grub2 failed because the fedora 14 grub.conf was broken |
| 20:36.20 | *** join/#debian homie (~user@xdsl-78-35-172-3.netcologne.de) |
| 20:36.24 | guzu | i'll check it later |
| 20:36.34 | darkestkhan | so i can't say something like: [ . . . ] debian/ contrib/doc ? |
| 20:36.44 | SimManiac | fedora 14? |
| 20:36.53 | SimManiac | I thought we were at #debian |
| 20:37.29 | SimManiac | let me take a look to the sign on the door... |
| 20:37.32 | *** part/#debian SimManiac (~kvirc@232.Red-88-26-245.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:37.36 | *** join/#debian SimManiac (~kvirc@232.Red-88-26-245.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:37.41 | SimManiac | yep, this is #debian |
| 20:38.18 | acemi | guzu: dpkg -l os-prober |
| 20:39.14 | stew | darkestkhan: no. if there was going to be a way to do it, it would be preferences (man 5 apt_preferences), but there isn't a way to pin based on section afaik |
| 20:41.17 | *** join/#debian comradekingu1 (~comradeki@188.113.116.150) |
| 20:41.46 | guzu | acemi, v 1.41 |
| 20:41.48 | blue112 | How can my debian drop all the UDP packets ? I just don't understand. |
| 20:41.51 | guzu | SimManiac, :) |
| 20:41.59 | *** part/#debian darkestkhan (~darkestkh@193.59.72.217) |
| 20:42.07 | *** join/#debian MattB (~Matthew@unaffiliated/mattwb) |
| 20:42.08 | SimManiac | ;) |
| 20:42.16 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~Shadow`@unaffiliated/shadow/x-2691444) |
| 20:42.18 | *** join/#debian darkestkhan (~darkestkh@193.59.72.217) |
| 20:42.27 | darkestkhan | ok, thx anyway |
| 20:42.27 | acemi | guzu: is it installed? ii at the beginning? |
| 20:42.29 | *** part/#debian darkestkhan (~darkestkh@193.59.72.217) |
| 20:42.57 | Shadow` | erm, my console under TTY1 is gone, at least... it stops giving a video output going to ctrl+alt+f1 |
| 20:43.20 | *** join/#debian JuLiiieN (~Julien@AVelizy-551-1-76-173.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:43.28 | guzu | acemi, yes |
| 20:43.35 | Shadow` | any help into getting it back? |
| 20:44.01 | guzu | acemi, unfortunately, it still fails to detect the f14 install, even after fixing f14s grub.conf |
| 20:44.26 | acemi | guzu: i have no idea |
| 20:44.38 | acemi | it works for me |
| 20:44.39 | *** join/#debian sAkiR (~sohbet@88.229.73.51) |
| 20:44.41 | sAkiR | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.19 | stew | acemi: do you have any idea what ^^ that is talking about? |
| 20:45.23 | stew | sAkiR: english only in here please |
| 20:45.33 | guzu | acemi, thnx |
| 20:45.41 | sAkiR | ok |
| 20:46.25 | *** join/#debian razieliyo (~razieliyo@105.Red-83-54-31.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:46.28 | razieliyo | hi |
| 20:46.29 | acemi | stew: he's joking |
| 20:47.18 | jhutchins_lt | guzu: Can you mount the f14 partition from debian? |
| 20:47.22 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-156-77.home.otenet.gr) |
| 20:47.31 | razieliyo | who's joking |
| 20:47.32 | razieliyo | what joke |
| 20:47.38 | razieliyo | I wanna have some fun |
| 20:48.20 | *** join/#debian kblessinggr (~kblessing@nginx/adept/kblessinggr) |
| 20:48.37 | kblessinggr | I heard there's a method of virtualization already built into lenny+ |
| 20:49.16 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@190.244.146.95) |
| 20:49.17 | guzu | jhutchins, yes |
| 20:49.35 | guzu | jhutchins, /boot, i mean. the rest is under a lvm thing |
| 20:49.42 | *** join/#debian MattB_ (~Matthew@cpe-024-074-043-004.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 20:49.59 | *** join/#debian krion (~seb@unaffiliated/krion) |
| 20:50.15 | *** join/#debian Pym (~Pym@gai69-2-82-226-59-51.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:50.36 | jhutchins_lt | when you run update-grub it should show you the kernels it's finding on the other partitions. |
| 20:50.37 | sAkiR | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.41 | bofh80 | kblessinggr, debian lenny / squeeze support Xen out of the box yes. |
| 20:51.06 | kblessinggr | bofh80 what of the LXC stuff I'm reading on the wiki |
| 20:51.11 | kblessinggr | (I'm using Squeeze) btw |
| 20:51.31 | guzu | jhujhiti, update-grub2 is ain't showing nothing except debian's kernel |
| 20:51.38 | guzu | jhutchins, ^ |
| 20:52.00 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~Shadow`@212-123-143-144.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 20:52.00 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~Shadow`@unaffiliated/shadow/x-2691444) |
| 20:52.11 | *** join/#debian Gottaname2 (~Gottaname@bb116-15-87-145.singnet.com.sg) |
| 20:52.22 | jhutchins_lt | guzu: Does it work with lenny? |
| 20:52.35 | bofh80 | kblessinggr, oh right, like solaris zones. sure. but i prefer the right tech - ie a type 1 hypervisor - microkernel /visor. if it don't do that, it's cheap emulation afaik . |
| 20:52.35 | sAkiR | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.40 | *** mode/#debian [+o stew] by ChanServ |
| 20:52.40 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@88.229.73.51] by stew |
| 20:52.41 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 20:53.01 | guzu | jhutchins, i don't know |
| 20:53.20 | jhutchins_lt | Does grub in f14 see debian? |
| 20:53.27 | kblessinggr | bofh80: reason I was curious is I'm gona play around on a 1GB Sempron server, and didn't think something the level of Xen could be handled by that, as opposed to an OS level virtualizatoin |
| 20:53.57 | *** join/#debian malte`_` (~anonymous@188.108.101.116) |
| 20:54.13 | guzu | jhutchins, no, fedora is not very linux friendly ... |
| 20:54.31 | bofh80 | kblessinggr, you can paravirt with Xen, doesn't require hvm / (windows ). So you can run all the nix you want with xen. it could that before it could do hvm (ie windows) |
| 20:54.47 | bofh80 | i mean you don't need hardware assisted virt with it |
| 20:55.06 | kblessinggr | bofh80: so its technically possible for me to install xen onto debian dedicated server, then make a tiny netBSD container within it? |
| 20:56.18 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~pikudoz@190.43.14.39) |
| 20:57.27 | *** join/#debian NDP (~nicola@78.134.26.78) |
| 20:57.29 | bofh80 | kblessinggr, yes afaik. should be fine. but feel to play with other virt options if you feel more comfortable. The Debian Xen wiki stuff is quite good. Basically you just install the right packages (kernel / hypervisor) in synaptic or apt-get command line and reboot . then install something to manage it - aka convirt or use the base command line tools |
| 20:57.36 | *** part/#debian daedaluz (~daedaluz@dyn82-149.yok.fi) |
| 20:58.18 | bofh80 | and then you'll need to find a quick howto on the netBSD booting as a DomU (the debian itself becomes the Dom0 ) |
| 20:58.18 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@75-106-254-33.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 20:58.24 | kblessinggr | bofh80: sounds good, Xen was gona be my original choice anyways but was concerned bout only 1GB of ram, even though I wouldn't actually have much running on the Host OS and the containers would be like ~64MB to 256MB (like 1 or 2 at most) |
| 20:58.50 | bofh80 | again this means netbsd booting a slightly custom kernel. but it's a kernel compile option rather than a patch. so it should be ready out of the box with netbsd too |
| 20:58.59 | *** join/#debian djura-san (~djura-san@77-46-197-170.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 20:58.59 | *** join/#debian djura-san (~djura-san@unaffiliated/djura-san) |
| 20:59.11 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (~ED@86-44-89-220-dynamic.b-ras2.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) |
| 20:59.11 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (~ED@unaffiliated/charminthemoose) |
| 20:59.14 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 20:59.25 | bofh80 | sure you can set the debian dom0 memory usuage on boot line paramter - so you set how much debian uses, then you can set individual xen memory settings for the domu's |
| 20:59.52 | kblessinggr | bofh80: thanks for the help, if I get comfortable with it, I may consider switching my i7 920 server from SolusVm + OpenVz over to Xen (ie: redo on a new server and migrate) |
| 21:00.03 | *** join/#debian malte`_`_ (~anonymous@188.108.103.225) |
| 21:00.04 | guzu | SimManiac, jhujhiti , acemi i've added a chainload section into grub.cfg (after installing f14 grub onto the right place) and now everything is fine, until i'll update debian's grub. meanwhile i hope i'll learn how to handle this grub2 thing . thank you all for help |
| 21:00.42 | acemi | guzu: edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom |
| 21:00.47 | acemi | then update-grub |
| 21:00.51 | *** join/#debian sansen (~san@190.245.76.183) |
| 21:00.51 | bofh80 | kblessinggr, sure happy to help. be cool if you get some performances statistics, esp if the servers are identicle |
| 21:00.55 | *** join/#debian lumines (~lumines@p508EFE0F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:01.28 | guzu | acemi, i'll do it after i install gnome in f14 |
| 21:01.36 | bofh80 | ie, run some benchmarks on it, if you decide to change over you'll be able to run the same tests . . |
| 21:01.49 | kblessinggr | bofh80: hehe I didn't even think bout that. Main problem I'm having with OpenVz is that I wanted to be IPv6 ready... and sure enough you can't if you use the default venet device, need veth instead, and solusvm doesn't support veth yet, but SolusVm + Xen only supports linux guests, so kind of a pita |
| 21:02.33 | *** join/#debian ichat_system (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 21:03.02 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) |
| 21:03.02 | *** join/#debian Guest418001 (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 21:03.28 | *** join/#debian Guest418005 (~guest@174.36.234.43-static.reverse.softlayer.com) |
| 21:04.14 | bofh80 | kblessinggr, well i know someone who's had their internet restricted to ip6 only during the most part of the day . And well it seems the net is a long way off from ip6. Even google who have the most up, only allow you to access those ip6 servers through a 'tunnel broker' |
| 21:04.36 | djura-san | o/ |
| 21:04.41 | *** join/#debian solidstate (~foxtrot@c-71-197-6-78.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:04.43 | *** join/#debian dimir (~dimir@dimir.eu) |
| 21:04.48 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@host210.190-225-23.telecom.net.ar) |
| 21:05.02 | kblessinggr | bofh80: yea I'm using a tunnel broker from hurricane electric at home, my servers with my datacenter have native IPv6 since the backbone they use is also hurricane electric |
| 21:05.13 | kblessinggr | server setup, dual-stack so to spealk |
| 21:05.14 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc4-fare6-2-0-cust436.6-1.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:05.21 | kblessinggr | just trying to be ready and familiar |
| 21:05.30 | bofh80 | sure - lucky guy lol |
| 21:05.37 | *** join/#debian ponyofdeath (~vladi@user-0c9hb8u.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 21:05.54 | kblessinggr | I was lucky they already had me on a router that was IPv6 capable, told thats not always the case |
| 21:05.57 | *** join/#debian karsten-nr (~karsten@dsl027-181-017.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 21:06.03 | bofh80 | kblessinggr, well at least you have a test server to try with :) |
| 21:06.15 | bofh80 | yeah, no kidding |
| 21:06.16 | kblessinggr | yea the sempron I got is 15/month |
| 21:06.34 | kblessinggr | makes for a good dev box if nothing else |
| 21:08.00 | *** join/#debian Winkie (~urmom@ur.fa.gs) |
| 21:10.28 | *** part/#debian Techtronic (~minde@86.100.239.46) |
| 21:11.15 | *** join/#debian froggyman (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) |
| 21:12.00 | *** join/#debian litlebuda (~litlebuda@169.191.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 21:12.22 | *** join/#debian Italian_Plumber (~Italian_P@adsl-074-236-202-005.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:13.09 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@99-8-168-46.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:13.09 | *** join/#debian llua (~llua@unaffiliated/llua) |
| 21:13.31 | *** join/#debian LnxSlck (1000@89.214.40.68) |
| 21:13.51 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@139.182.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 21:15.17 | *** join/#debian ragnar_de (~ragnar_de@dslb-088-078-106-009.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:15.25 | ragnar_de | hi all |
| 21:15.36 | *** part/#debian guzu (~guzu@89.136.7.213) |
| 21:17.55 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p4FFF5BF7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:17.58 | ragnar_de | i've made a big mistake. i've installed windows 7 for a special electric engineering prog without watching grub. how do i get back to linux now? |
| 21:19.38 | *** part/#debian kblessinggr (~kblessing@nginx/adept/kblessinggr) |
| 21:19.39 | *** join/#debian CodeNinja (~gaintsura@clients.devnetonline.net) |
| 21:20.18 | *** part/#debian mortehu (~mortehu@195.159.128.13) |
| 21:21.05 | *** join/#debian wieshka (~wieshka@46.109.24.5) |
| 21:22.05 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~Shadow`@212-123-143-144.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 21:22.05 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~Shadow`@unaffiliated/shadow/x-2691444) |
| 21:22.42 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-156-77.home.otenet.gr) |
| 21:22.59 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@adsl-99-74-165-28.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:22.59 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 21:23.10 | *** join/#debian kylemcgill (~kylemcgil@119.224.32.99) |
| 21:23.24 | wieshka | hey there - where can i search for Printer driver for Epson TM-T88IV ? |
| 21:24.00 | chomwitt | debian lenny mounts automatically an external ext4 hard drive with root permissions. how can i change that? |
| 21:24.13 | karsten-nr | wieshka: generally: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/database/ppddocumentation |
| 21:24.22 | karsten-nr | wieshka: You're looking for a PPD file for that printer. |
| 21:25.05 | wieshka | what is ppd - sorry - first time working with printers |
| 21:25.31 | *** join/#debian hardnrgg (~roycable@203-217-82-230.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 21:25.55 | wieshka | something similar to loading windows driver for wireless with ndiswrapper or what ? |
| 21:26.24 | karsten-nr | wieshka: printer properties definition file or something like that. |
| 21:26.54 | karsten-nr | wieshka: http://www.google.com/search?q=ppd+printer+file |
| 21:27.07 | karsten-nr | wieshka: ... or you could read teh first link I sent you. |
| 21:27.17 | wieshka | karsten-nr already reading |
| 21:28.11 | karsten-nr | wieshka: If you can't find that from the vendor, they're usually stored somewhere on a Windows system, though I haven't snagged one via that route for years. I think the CUPS docs describe the method. |
| 21:28.39 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~Shadow`@unaffiliated/shadow/x-2691444) |
| 21:28.49 | wieshka | karsten-nr hmmm, assuming, that i can print via my test perl socket - do i really need driver if it is socket ethernet printer ? |
| 21:29.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 984] by debhelper |
| 21:29.04 | bofh80 | ragnar_de, do you know what version of grub? u running squeeze or lenny? It should be a rather simple fix. |
| 21:29.18 | wieshka | only then comes question - how can i format text |
| 21:29.40 | jhutchins_lt | karsten-nr: ppd files aren't standard on windows. |
| 21:30.09 | karsten-nr | jhutchins_lt: I thought that that's what Windows printer definition files actually were, I could very well be wrong. |
| 21:30.47 | jhutchins_lt | Postscript Printer Definition - postscript isn't a windows standard, it's mac/unix. |
| 21:31.01 | jhutchins_lt | Windows uses things like PCL5. |
| 21:31.15 | jhutchins_lt | (Page Control Language 5). |
| 21:31.39 | jhutchins_lt | Now that the licensing fees aren't insane though most printers include postscript and you can get ppd's for them. |
| 21:32.34 | jelly-home | .ppd is used by CUPS to configure most printers now, even if that means having a filter that does ps rasterizing and output to HP PCL |
| 21:32.50 | *** part/#debian kylemcgill (~kylemcgil@119.224.32.99) |
| 21:32.57 | axisys | will this create a raid10 of 6 disks ? |
| 21:32.59 | jelly-home | windows use... well, drivers. |
| 21:32.59 | axisys | mdadm --create /dev/md10 --level=10 --raid-devices=6 /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde /dev/sdf /dev/sdg /dev/sdh |
| 21:33.17 | *** join/#debian lumines (~lumines@p508EFE0F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:33.23 | karsten-nr | defers to documentation and reality. |
| 21:33.23 | *** join/#debian guzu (~guzu@89.136.7.213) |
| 21:33.48 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: but you pay premium for printers with a sane language and a nontrivial amount of RAM for buffer |
| 21:33.57 | phogg | many windows "printer driver installers" include a .ppd, even if it's not advertised. at least for quality printers |
| 21:34.41 | Bushmills | CUPS can use those |
| 21:34.44 | Bushmills | !cups |
| 21:34.44 | dpkg | [cups] Common UNIX Printing System. CUPS provides a portable printing layer for UNIX-based operating systems and supports the Internet Printing Protocol. To install, ask me about <cups setup>. See also <debug cups>. http://cups.org/articles.php?L+TFAQ http://www.cups.org/ ##cups on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:35.06 | *** join/#debian ov3rmind (~somebody@20158209163.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 21:35.12 | karsten-nr | phogg: That matches what I STR> |
| 21:35.27 | guzu | acemi, i wanted you to know that it worked: adding entries into custom conf file and also changing default timeout in the other file |
| 21:35.30 | jelly-home | the cheapest models accept some sort of bitmap, perhaps run-length-encoding "compressed" to save on USB bandwidth, a small (say 2MB) buffer and the whole rendering is done by driver on the host |
| 21:35.31 | guzu | thanks all again |
| 21:35.34 | *** join/#debian scoobert1on (~tom@93.186.148.83) |
| 21:35.39 | *** join/#debian ov3rmind (~somebody@unaffiliated/ov3rmind) |
| 21:35.40 | wieshka | Bushmills the question is - do i need them for thermal socket ethernet printer ? |
| 21:35.40 | guzu | have a nice evening/day/etc :) |
| 21:36.06 | wieshka | i also can print with perl socket script, but no ideas about formatting |
| 21:36.10 | ov3rmind | :) |
| 21:36.28 | Bushmills | for using CUPS? unless there isn't one in the debian provided ppd package, yes |
| 21:37.12 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: What kind of interface is it? |
| 21:37.15 | Bushmills | though many printers have postscript compatibility - in those case you could probably use a more generic postscript driver |
| 21:37.16 | *** join/#debian zuse_ (~zuse@147.248-241-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 21:37.23 | chomwitt | why would lenny mount a external drive ext4 partition as root user? where is that bevahior controlled? |
| 21:37.42 | Bushmills | though those may not know about special printer features, like paper trays, printing modes etc |
| 21:37.47 | *** part/#debian zuse_ (~zuse@147.248-241-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 21:38.32 | wieshka | jhutchins_lt it is TCP Socket server via ethernet Epson TM-T88IV |
| 21:39.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 978] by debhelper |
| 21:39.23 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: You might check the epson website. |
| 21:39.37 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: I know I've done this though.... Seems like it emulates the serial interface. |
| 21:40.05 | wieshka | jhutchins_lt aha |
| 21:40.46 | jhutchins_lt | We used cups to add it as a remote printer. |
| 21:41.06 | jhutchins_lt | Can't remember the type of printer though... |
| 21:41.21 | ov3rmind | hi |
| 21:42.36 | h3sp4wn | chomwitt: Depends there is a number of ways it can happen |
| 21:43.18 | *** join/#debian wertik_any (~wertik@95-26-90-147.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 21:45.20 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: I'm pretty sure you just use "raw" and send plain ascii to it. |
| 21:45.33 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: The documentation is available on the web. |
| 21:45.45 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: Epson also may have released a PPD for it. |
| 21:46.11 | wieshka | jhutchins_lt chare please some link, already more than 24 on random IT staff, so brain is already overcrowded with staff |
| 21:46.19 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: I know for the serial one you just dump ascii to the serial port. |
| 21:46.48 | wieshka | so if i have image - i just send raw ascii to port ? |
| 21:46.53 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: This is stuff I did more than a year ago for a company I no longer work for. |
| 21:47.15 | wieshka | jhutchins_lt maybe you worked Tipas ? |
| 21:47.29 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: Um, no, there's a very special binary image format that it accepts, and we had to keep an old DOS machine available to be able to generate the files. |
| 21:47.58 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: If you need to do a logo on the receipt you're going to need to get support from epson or from IBM. |
| 21:48.09 | *** join/#debian tsccof (~martin@201-15-191-201.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 21:48.31 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: IBM also sells this printer under their brand for their POS systems. They also sell a SuSE based POS system that uses it, so there may be help to be found there. |
| 21:48.51 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: However, it's not too likely that they'll actually help you unless you're buying from them. |
| 21:49.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 968] by debhelper |
| 21:49.30 | *** join/#debian Sary (~Sa@unaffiliated/sary) |
| 21:49.30 | wieshka | jhutchins_lt hmmm, thx for information anyone, firstly, i should try to deal using google |
| 21:49.46 | *** join/#debian Italian_Plumber (~Italian_P@adsl-074-236-202-005.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:50.20 | jhutchins_lt | wieshka: site:ibm.com |
| 21:53.55 | *** join/#debian redDEADresolve (~redDEADre@ws055007.housing-tp.siu.edu) |
| 21:54.00 | *** join/#debian tomreyn (~tomreyn@unaffiliated/tomreyn) |
| 21:54.46 | tomreyn | to determine the mount point of the file system the current working directory is in, is there a better comand than this? df -h .| tail -n1 | awk '{print $5}' |
| 21:56.38 | *** join/#debian wertik_any (~wertik@89-178-208-133.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 21:57.49 | *** join/#debian treefern (me@219-70-209-211.cable.dynamic.giga.net.tw) |
| 21:59.38 | *** join/#debian ukine (~ukine@152-144.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 21:59.43 | tomreyn | actually this doesn't work reliably |
| 22:00.13 | *** join/#debian dfkjjkfd (~paulh@145.120.22.20) |
| 22:00.23 | *** join/#debian scoobert1on (~tom@93.186.148.83) |
| 22:01.01 | pipeline | tomreyn: call fuser 1m on each mountpoint and check the output for your present pid |
| 22:01.03 | *** join/#debian Erbureth (~kvirc@ip-94-112-189-1.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 22:02.07 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420782.home.otenet.gr) |
| 22:02.44 | *** join/#debian sow (~chatzilla@192.9.92-79.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 22:04.09 | *** join/#debian dfkjjkfd_ (~paulh@145.120.22.20) |
| 22:04.52 | tomreyn | pipeline: do you mean "fuser -1m"? |
| 22:05.25 | pipeline | tomreyn: man 1m fuser |
| 22:05.30 | pipeline | tomreyn: it's in section 1m |
| 22:05.43 | stew | its in section 1 here |
| 22:05.44 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~user@99.148.202.191) |
| 22:07.22 | *** join/#debian redDEADresolved (~redDEADre@ws055007.housing-tp.siu.edu) |
| 22:07.35 | pipeline | haha whoops wrong box |
| 22:09.52 | *** join/#debian zuse_ (~zuse@147.248-241-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 22:09.54 | *** join/#debian manio (~mariusz@87-207-14-70.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 22:09.55 | bolt | section 8 |
| 22:09.57 | *** part/#debian zuse_ (~zuse@147.248-241-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 22:10.09 | *** join/#debian LnxSlck_ (1000@89.214.40.68) |
| 22:11.10 | *** join/#debian George_OConnor (~goconnor@goconnor-mp.just1.com) |
| 22:11.23 | *** join/#debian matzer (~matze@p579AEEAC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:15.40 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 22:15.57 | *** join/#debian hellyeah (kvirc@178.233.183.10) |
| 22:15.59 | hellyeah | hey |
| 22:16.01 | *** join/#debian fnordperfect (~fab@dslb-094-217-103-161.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:16.07 | hellyeah | i try to install debian from usb |
| 22:16.21 | hellyeah | but i took that error when i click load component from cd |
| 22:16.30 | hellyeah | no common cd rom was detected |
| 22:16.34 | hellyeah | what does that mean |
| 22:16.50 | *** join/#debian R430R (angel@188.214.222.57) |
| 22:16.57 | *** join/#debian at0m (~at0m@94-225-90-23.access.telenet.be) |
| 22:17.11 | *** join/#debian salto (~salto@77.37.17.144) |
| 22:17.19 | *** join/#debian SkySilver (MarsMars@87.236.41.121) |
| 22:17.40 | hellyeah | pls answer, |
| 22:18.03 | *** join/#debian poncha|laptop (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 22:18.17 | tomreyn | pipeline: thanks. now how do i determine my current pid? |
| 22:18.59 | tomreyn | i think bash keeps it in some variable, but i don't want to rely on the shell being bash. |
| 22:19.11 | tomreyn | some 'ps' invocation then, i guess? |
| 22:19.36 | *** join/#debian The_Machine (~Euphoria@83-70-45.static.customer.clearrate.com) |
| 22:20.24 | *** join/#debian arjovr (~seba@host156.186-124-196.telecom.net.ar) |
| 22:21.07 | *** join/#debian Deathvalley122 (~Death@unaffiliated/deathvalley122) |
| 22:21.17 | *** join/#debian newbie (kvirc@178.233.183.10) |
| 22:21.26 | tomreyn | hellyeah: you may need to spawn a sehll and change the apt sources.list and replace cdrom: by file: |
| 22:21.46 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:22.33 | *** join/#debian jmeeuwen (~kanarip@white.kolabsys.com) |
| 22:23.39 | pipeline | tomreyn: rely on bash. |
| 22:23.53 | pipeline | tomreyn: it's better to rely specifically upon bash or ksh than to run on a mystery /bin/sh later and have subtle bugs |
| 22:23.58 | pipeline | tomreyn: pick a shell for your script, and stick t oit. |
| 22:24.18 | pipeline | tomreyn: to put it another way: "It's easier to port a shell than to port a shell script." |
| 22:24.57 | *** part/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-156-77.home.otenet.gr) |
| 22:25.07 | pipeline | tomreyn: your pid should be $0 in every bourne-like, but I would still pick a particular shell to target |
| 22:25.11 | *** join/#debian cn28h (~cn28h@64.102.207.67) |
| 22:25.36 | jhutchins_lt | tomreyn: Wow, that's real left field. Usually that error means that the user hasn't followed the full procedure to create the USB installer, which includes copying a CDROM image to the USB. |
| 22:26.07 | *** join/#debian XThief (~XThief@177.Red-83-32-239.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:26.27 | cn28h | so, I installed debian lenny from the netboot (mini.iso), I installed only the minum packages (no GUI, etc). I used Guided / LVM full disk, and accepted all the defaults. At the end, grub install complains, then I have to tell it to use (hd0) which should be fine I guess.. but on reboot, I just land at a "grub>" prompt, no menu or anything... any ideas? |
| 22:27.14 | cn28h | I'm currently chroot'd from a rescue cd, and the /boot partition seems fine |
| 22:27.31 | *** part/#debian Ashford (~Ash@unaffiliated/ashhh) |
| 22:27.44 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slvmecha@c-24-91-117-140.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 22:28.33 | *** join/#debian h3sp4wn (~h3sp4wn@unaffiliated/h3sp4wn) |
| 22:28.50 | *** join/#debian RenatoSilva (~renato@187.13.202.145) |
| 22:29.38 | *** join/#debian Boohemian (~Boohemian@149.130.129.81) |
| 22:30.28 | RenatoSilva | if I check a package for removing in synaptic, and there's no package to be also removed due to depending on it, and I have no idea what the package in question is, is it safe to remove it? For example, libltdl-dev. |
| 22:31.19 | h3sp4wn | Has anyone experienced squeeze domU's not shutting down or rebooting properly (Centos stock 2.6.18 dom0) |
| 22:31.42 | *** part/#debian Acwb (~Acwb@ip565f4feb.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 22:32.52 | cn28h | RenatoSilva, -dev packages means it include headers and such for building against the library.. meaning that they may have been needed to build something on your system, which also means it probably wasn't done through apt - removing it may cause whatever it was to no longer build. That said, the -dev package is probably also small, so it's not going to bag you much space, anyway |
| 22:33.25 | tomreyn | jhutchins_lt: I think you wanted to tell hellyeah about this. |
| 22:33.29 | f00li5h | you only need the headers during install, surely it'd be safe to remove the package once the source package is built |
| 22:33.36 | f00li5h | s/install/compile/ |
| 22:33.36 | tomreyn | pipeline: thanks for your help |
| 22:33.47 | *** join/#debian manugg (~ben@dyn-128-54-254-230.ucsd.edu) |
| 22:33.53 | cn28h | safe, sure, but you won't be able to rebuild |
| 22:33.58 | *** part/#debian manugg (~ben@dyn-128-54-254-230.ucsd.edu) |
| 22:34.19 | jhutchins_lt | tomreyn: No, I actually wanted to tell you, that BS about editing the sources file was completely wrong. |
| 22:34.29 | jhutchins_lt | hellyeah was already gone. |
| 22:35.52 | *** join/#debian otibom (~otibom@212-198-220-116.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 22:35.53 | tomreyn | jhutchins_lt: you could have put this a nicer way but I do appreciate you pointing it out that I was wrong there. |
| 22:36.33 | RenatoSilva | cn28h: so you mean it was installed non-automatically by something out of apt? |
| 22:36.40 | jhutchins_lt | tomreyn: Sorry. It is a situation we see here a lot. |
| 22:36.53 | RenatoSilva | cn28h: and as it contains headers you guess it was for bulding something? |
| 22:37.41 | RenatoSilva | please all note that the package in question is JUST AN EXAMPLE, it could be flying-bananas-i386 |
| 22:38.06 | cn28h | RenatoSilva, in the general case then, the answer is "it depends" |
| 22:38.35 | cn28h | in theory it *ought* to be okay |
| 22:39.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 957] by debhelper |
| 22:39.12 | cn28h | as long as nothing outside the package manager is depending on it, and the dependencies in the package manager are right, should be fine |
| 22:39.17 | *** join/#debian joesph (~joesph@HSI-KBW-091-089-101-237.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 22:41.41 | *** join/#debian dvs (~me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:42.05 | *** join/#debian joesph (~joesph@HSI-KBW-091-089-101-237.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 22:43.36 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 22:43.47 | RenatoSilva | I see |
| 22:43.48 | *** join/#debian pitoow (~pitoow@200-180-69-111.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 22:44.27 | RenatoSilva | $aptitude why libltdl-dev => libtool recommends libltdl-dev |
| 22:44.55 | RenatoSilva | people told me in debian and ubuntu recommended packages are installed along with the main package by default |
| 22:44.56 | *** join/#debian pitoow (~pitoow@200-180-69-111.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 22:45.09 | RenatoSilva | but I can find some packages with uninstalled recommendations |
| 22:45.12 | RenatoSilva | why? |
| 22:45.15 | blast_hardcheese | Not true in Debian |
| 22:45.17 | blast_hardcheese | Ubuntu maybe, |
| 22:45.22 | h3sp4wn | aptitude does |
| 22:45.28 | blast_hardcheese | but that's an apt preference that is not set by default in debian. |
| 22:45.33 | *** join/#debian newbie|3 (kvirc@178.233.183.10) |
| 22:45.36 | h3sp4wn | (unless you use --without-recommends) by default |
| 22:45.39 | blast_hardcheese | h3sp4wn: Not true, I've never had recommended packages installed by default |
| 22:46.10 | *** join/#debian timido (~deb@99-126-28-149.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:46.14 | *** join/#debian timido (~deb@unaffiliated/student) |
| 22:46.26 | timido | hello i have a question my laptop keeps on turning off and my battery is fully charged? |
| 22:46.28 | *** join/#debian Boohemian (~Boohemian@149.130.129.81) |
| 22:46.29 | timido | any ideas? |
| 22:46.37 | *** join/#debian puty (~android@27.Red-83-50-64.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:46.44 | blast_hardcheese | I love those kinds of questions |
| 22:46.47 | h3sp4wn | blast_hardcheese: [X] Install recommended packages automatically |
| 22:46.56 | h3sp4wn | blast_hardcheese: I installed this box yesterday |
| 22:47.01 | h3sp4wn | not changed anything |
| 22:47.54 | cn28h | timido, tried disabling acpi? not sure if that'll help, but it may |
| 22:47.55 | blast_hardcheese | h3sp4wn: Where is that checkbox? |
| 22:48.07 | timido | cn28h, how do i disable acpi? |
| 22:48.08 | h3sp4wn | blast_hardcheese: aptitude |
| 22:48.09 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h139n1c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 22:48.16 | h3sp4wn | blast_hardcheese: options |
| 22:48.17 | blast_hardcheese | h3sp4wn: In the pseudogui though, right? |
| 22:48.18 | cn28h | timido, iirc you add "noacpi" to your kernel boot optionsw |
| 22:48.21 | blast_hardcheese | I've never used that. |
| 22:48.29 | timido | cn28h, where is the file locate it at? |
| 22:48.33 | h3sp4wn | It affects the cli though |
| 22:48.42 | cn28h | wait |
| 22:48.45 | timido | ok |
| 22:48.45 | cn28h | sanity checks |
| 22:49.52 | cn28h | timido, yeah, I think that's right |
| 22:49.59 | RenatoSilva | how to find the date and command line through which libltdl-dev was installed? |
| 22:50.05 | timido | cn28h, where is the location of the file though? |
| 22:50.30 | RenatoSilva | cn28h: I think I'll spent a few hours checking one by one in synaptic, seeing if there's no complain about dependency, and the purging it :) (no I won't) |
| 22:50.35 | jelly-home | blast_hardcheese: recommends are on by default since debian 5. |
| 22:50.53 | blast_hardcheese | jelly-home: Gotcha |
| 22:51.17 | blast_hardcheese | jelly-home: Dist-upgrades don't change existing configurations then, I guess? |
| 22:51.24 | cn28h | timido, uh, well if you're using grub1 it's /boot/grub/menu.lst normally.. not sure for grub2 |
| 22:51.28 | blast_hardcheese | all my boxes are dist-upgraded from etch |
| 22:51.30 | jelly-home | !why recommends |
| 22:51.30 | dpkg | From lenny onwards, apt-get and aptitude both install "Recommended" packages by default. From <policy> section 7.2, Recommends, "declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations." You're not that unusual, trust us. By not installing "recommended" packages you will be missing functionality. |
| 22:51.35 | timido | cn28h, ok do i put it in the last? line? |
| 22:51.38 | timido | of the file? |
| 22:51.41 | cn28h | timido, but in the grub boot menu you can hit 'e' to edit the entry |
| 22:51.49 | RenatoSilva | jelly-home: then why there's some recommendations here missing and some not? maybe they were added to the package after installation and updates of that package don't install new recommendations? |
| 22:51.51 | cn28h | timido, may as well try it first |
| 22:52.05 | jelly-home | RenatoSilva: since you're not running Debian, I couldn't have a clue |
| 22:52.07 | cn28h | timido, you should be able to hit 'e' to edit, then 'e' to edit kernel line, add the option, then 'b' to boot |
| 22:52.18 | RenatoSilva | jelly-home: how about Debian |
| 22:52.23 | cn28h | timido, if it helps, then you can make it permanent |
| 22:52.26 | timido | ok |
| 22:52.41 | jelly-home | RenatoSilva: I won't comment in here about it. |
| 22:53.19 | jelly-home | use ##linux back for your non-debian issues; there's no channel for derivatives yet (that I know of) |
| 22:53.49 | h3sp4wn | Does Debian have a web based file access solution (Think dropbox clone etc)] |
| 22:53.49 | *** join/#debian R430R (angel@188.214.222.57) |
| 22:54.05 | *** join/#debian em (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 22:54.13 | blast_hardcheese | h3sp4wn: Sounds like apache+webdav |
| 22:54.27 | *** join/#debian R430R (angel@188.214.222.57) |
| 22:54.55 | RenatoSilva | if the developer adds a new recommendation to a package I've already installed, will updates of that package install the new recommendation? |
| 22:54.57 | *** join/#debian R430R (angel@188.214.222.57) |
| 22:54.58 | blast_hardcheese | All the major gui file browsers have webdav support, afaik, and there's cadaver for us CLI junkies |
| 22:55.36 | *** join/#debian swoody (~swoody@fsf/member/swoody) |
| 22:56.01 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~Shadow`@212-123-143-144.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 22:56.01 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~Shadow`@unaffiliated/shadow/x-2691444) |
| 22:56.11 | h3sp4wn | blast_hardcheese: Has to be useable by people who cannot even map a share |
| 22:57.02 | *** join/#debian R430R (angel@188.214.222.57) |
| 22:57.04 | *** join/#debian Boohemian (~Boohemian@174-147-202-171.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 22:57.25 | *** join/#debian matzer (~matze@p579AEEAC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:58.11 | *** join/#debian Zargeus__ (~zargeus@adsl-99-103-144-127.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:58.22 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (angel@188.214.222.57) |
| 22:59.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 950] by debhelper |
| 22:59.10 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~kj4kjl@cpe-024-074-129-096.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 23:00.30 | RenatoSilva | how to find the date and command line through which a package was installed? |
| 23:01.13 | jelly-home | please stop asking questions about your ubuntu setup in here. :-( |
| 23:01.31 | andares | RenatoSilva: aptitude show <package> |
| 23:01.40 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@178.123.194.75) |
| 23:02.37 | *** join/#debian pfred1 (~pfred1@unaffiliated/pfred1) |
| 23:02.49 | jelly-home | andares: that shows neither "installed date" nor "command used to install it" |
| 23:03.10 | RenatoSilva | andares: no date, no cmd line |
| 23:03.20 | andares | jelly-home: I thought it would show when it is installed. |
| 23:03.24 | andares | command used to install it? |
| 23:03.27 | jelly-home | andares: you thought wrong. |
| 23:03.34 | andares | jelly-home: you don't have to be a jerk about it. |
| 23:03.39 | RenatoSilva | jelly-home: I'm inspecting /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 23:03.58 | RenatoSilva | jelly-home: and the archived versions |
| 23:04.07 | *** join/#debian _____________ (~daedhel@modemcable005.157-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 23:04.26 | jelly-home | andares: jerkiness aside, it might be better to answer questions to actually have hands-on experience with; there might be someone around with an actual clue |
| 23:04.34 | jelly-home | andares: it helps reduce confusion |
| 23:04.47 | RenatoSilva | andares: it may have been installed with apt-get build-dep, apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get install, etc |
| 23:04.55 | andares | jelly-home: okay, sorry. |
| 23:04.57 | pfred1 | jelly-home grow a personality |
| 23:05.08 | jelly-home | pfred1: I have it. It's not a nice one. |
| 23:05.19 | *** join/#debian homie` (~user@xdsl-78-35-130-48.netcologne.de) |
| 23:05.55 | acemi | RenatoSilva: maybe, ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/xxx.deb to see file creation date helps |
| 23:06.05 | *** join/#debian arjovr (~seba@host156.186-124-196.telecom.net.ar) |
| 23:06.41 | jelly-home | acemi: that's circumstantial at best; /var/log/dpkg.log is better. |
| 23:07.01 | RenatoSilva | jelly-home: history.log.1: Start-Date: 2010-11-25 09:59:26, Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic, Install: libtool:i386 (2.2.6b-2ubuntu1), libltdl-dev:i386 (2.2.6b-2ubuntu1, automatic) |
| 23:07.13 | jelly-home | nice |
| 23:07.13 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~FilipeMai@gauguin.dhcp.lbl.gov) |
| 23:07.31 | FilipeMaia | How to get a which that follows symlinks? |
| 23:07.50 | RenatoSilva | jelly-home: so it seems I have installed libtool manually for building pidgin or something, I almost recall it |
| 23:08.07 | jelly-home | RenatoSilva: debian does not have "Commandline" there at all. |
| 23:08.08 | FilipeMaia | I want to know what's the location of a certain binary in the system, which is in the path. But I want the actual binaries not simply symlinks to the binary |
| 23:08.40 | stew | FilipeMaia: readlink -f $(which commandname) |
| 23:08.49 | stew | RenatoSilva: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 23:08.58 | RenatoSilva | jelly-home: I will purge libtool and family right now |
| 23:09.10 | jelly-home | stew: he's already in ##linux; #ubuntu is rather useless |
| 23:09.19 | FilipeMaia | stew: that's great, thanks. I will check the man page |
| 23:09.42 | *** part/#debian surlyjake (~surlyjake@38.115.135.66) |
| 23:09.59 | jelly-home | too bad debian's apt log doesn't show that commandline thing |
| 23:10.22 | pfred1 | I never felt the need |
| 23:10.37 | *** join/#debian Xanbreon (~xan@85.210.191.235) |
| 23:11.11 | RenatoSilva | well it helped me understand that I actually was using the GUI |
| 23:11.28 | h3sp4wn | Me neither debfoster or deborphan very occasionally maybe (or remove \~ |
| 23:11.36 | RenatoSilva | so it cannot be some automated process, it was really me who installed it |
| 23:11.37 | h3sp4wn | \~dev etc |
| 23:11.40 | *** join/#debian Shadow` (~Shadow`@unaffiliated/shadow/x-2691444) |
| 23:11.43 | jelly-home | RenatoSilva: you wouldn't have been able to figure that out using Debian proper! <g> |
| 23:12.04 | *** join/#debian zinx (~zinx@unaffiliated/zinx) |
| 23:12.37 | *** join/#debian malte`_` (~anonymous@188.108.103.225) |
| 23:12.42 | RenatoSilva | do you debian guys have this little bug too? synaptic seems to not update quite well the auto-removable list right after removing the main package |
| 23:12.48 | RenatoSilva | I need to restart synaptic |
| 23:13.05 | stew | RenatoSilva: check the bts |
| 23:13.07 | RenatoSilva | seems fixed, or it is random, not usre |
| 23:13.12 | RenatoSilva | stew: bts? |
| 23:13.16 | jelly-home | !bts |
| 23:13.16 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 23:13.19 | stew | RenatoSilva: yes |
| 23:13.34 | RenatoSilva | stew: oh guessed right before :P |
| 23:13.51 | RenatoSilva | stew: what a wonderful answer btw, thanks |
| 23:14.17 | pfred1 | I finished up the last of my stew last night |
| 23:14.37 | *** join/#debian malte`_`__ (~anonymous@188.108.103.225) |
| 23:14.44 | RenatoSilva | hmm iirc gtkorphan wasn't showing libtool |
| 23:15.19 | h3sp4wn | Is there any more doc's about ipv6 in squeeze other than http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 |
| 23:15.49 | jelly-home | pfred1: do you have a debian tech question? |
| 23:16.00 | pfred1 | I never figured out anything to do with ipv6 |
| 23:16.14 | *** join/#debian dayangkun (~YK@60.247.97.98) |
| 23:16.17 | Shadow` | when using the fglrx driver, everything feels sluggish like a driverless windows XP :S and i cant remember how i fixed it last time |
| 23:16.23 | pfred1 | jelly-home not really no everything seems fine here |
| 23:17.02 | pfred1 | Shadow` get rid of the ATI hardware that is what fixed it here |
| 23:17.05 | RenatoSilva | just checked, gtk/aptorphan doesn't show libtool, crazy! |
| 23:17.49 | Shadow` | ur so damn funny pfred1 |
| 23:17.54 | *** join/#debian swellie (~swellie@ip68-11-220-167.br.br.cox.net) |
| 23:17.55 | *** join/#debian zinx (~zinx@unaffiliated/zinx) |
| 23:17.56 | Shadow` | best joke ever |
| 23:18.03 | pfred1 | Shadow` no I'm being completely serious |
| 23:18.31 | pfred1 | the board is sitting on my shelf now even as we chat |
| 23:18.31 | h3sp4wn | Shadow`: What card ? |
| 23:18.51 | Shadow` | radeon HD 3450 |
| 23:19.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 944] by debhelper |
| 23:19.15 | *** join/#debian tq (~tobias@cpc3-brig15-2-0-cust590.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 23:19.19 | h3sp4wn | Shadow`: Ask #radeon but I am pretty sure you are better off with the open source drivers |
| 23:19.23 | Shadow` | i had it working before, but debian/hdd crashed >.> |
| 23:19.46 | Shadow` | i think i had it working with open source ones, but all i keep getting is fglrx |
| 23:20.01 | *** join/#debian arjovr (~seba@host156.186-124-196.telecom.net.ar) |
| 23:20.13 | Shadow` | ill go bug them, thx h3sp4wn |
| 23:20.16 | RenatoSilva | is there any way to list all packages that are not dependency of any other package? these packages seem not to be the orphaned ones, because libtool wasn't being displayed in the orphaned filter |
| 23:20.23 | pfred1 | there is an uninstall script that ships with fglrx |
| 23:20.23 | Shadow` | and pfred1: keep overpaying for your nvidia cards, ill stick with my bang for my buck cards from AMD |
| 23:20.44 | *** join/#debian inetd50 (~inetd50@ppp118-209-46-248.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 23:20.54 | h3sp4wn | My radeon 5750 works great now with the Opensource drivers (no more tainted kernel) |
| 23:21.00 | pfred1 | Shadow` yes that ATI card did only cost me $2 but even at that I feel cheated |
| 23:21.18 | Shadow` | go troll in #defocus |
| 23:21.20 | Shadow` | loser |
| 23:21.44 | h3sp4wn | (Much faster than a much more expenesive quadro I have) |
| 23:21.44 | pfred1 | Shadow` I really don't think you'll ever be in the position to tell me what to do |
| 23:22.24 | *** join/#debian rvalles (~lodoss@84.78.233.117) |
| 23:22.25 | *** join/#debian rvalles (~lodoss@unaffiliated/rvalles) |
| 23:22.39 | *** join/#debian wobblyonions (~chriskili@116.66.228.34) |
| 23:23.05 | wobblyonions | hi guys, can anyone recomend a good document management system for debian at all? |
| 23:23.35 | h3sp4wn | Shadow`: I am using mesa from Debian experimental but you might be able to get away with older (thats why #radeon) I cannot get away with it |
| 23:23.46 | *** join/#debian pawelpaja (~holicy.pl@dynamic-78-8-5-169.ssp.dialog.net.pl) |
| 23:23.47 | Shadow` | pfred1, ur trolling #debian, just go be a loser somewhere else man, and let the people who want to help, help the people who want to be helped, instead of trolling like a damn loser like u |
| 23:24.09 | pfred1 | Shadow` look I told you how I fixed my problem take it or leave it |
| 23:24.10 | Shadow` | ye i remember trying mesa before, didnt work :P |
| 23:24.38 | h3sp4wn | Shadow`: On squeeze or lenny (or sid ?) |
| 23:24.45 | pfred1 | I just got done wasting two days trying to gat that POS to accelerate |
| 23:24.52 | Shadow` | lenny |
| 23:25.06 | pfred1 | well that was my first problem i had to upgrade to squeeze |
| 23:25.10 | h3sp4wn | Shadow`: Should be alot better with testing |
| 23:25.30 | h3sp4wn | Shadow`: (Testing is likely to be less trouble than stable + fglrx) |
| 23:25.41 | Shadow` | heh |
| 23:25.50 | pfred1 | yeah the X drivers in Lenny are just too old to communicate with kernel drivers today |
| 23:25.53 | jordanm | stable has backported fglrx |
| 23:25.58 | Shadow` | previous debian install was kernel .32 |
| 23:26.03 | jordanm | ,versions fglrx-glx |
| 23:26.06 | judd | Package fglrx-glx on i386 -- etch-backports/non-free: 8.47.3-3~bpo40+1; lenny/non-free: 1:8-12-4; lenny-backports/non-free: 1:10-4-1~bpo50+1; sid/non-free: 1:10-9-3; squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3; experimental/non-free: 1:10-10-1 |
| 23:26.07 | Shadow` | dunno if thats squeeze ? |
| 23:26.50 | h3sp4wn | ,versions libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 23:26.52 | judd | Package libgl1-mesa-dri on i386 -- etch: 6.5.1-0.6; lenny: 7.0.3-7; sid: 7.7.1-4; squeeze: 7.7.1-4; experimental: 7.9+repack-1 |
| 23:27.17 | *** join/#debian ridin (~joshua@cpe-76-90-165-115.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:27.47 | pfred1 | Shadow` I'm running a home rolled 2.6.36.1 |
| 23:28.02 | pfred1 | works prety good |
| 23:28.05 | dvs | pfred1: not new enough! |
| 23:28.16 | pfred1 | dvs ah its working here |
| 23:28.45 | *** join/#debian kenifanying (~kenifanyi@2001:250:1003:e590:225:64ff:fe5e:2076) |
| 23:29.21 | *** join/#debian proxy15 (~carlos@186.2.136.17) |
| 23:29.28 | pfred1 | my cheesy i915 on board is getting 77 fps in a Q3 MOD ENGINE FULL EFFECTS 1280X1024 lcd SQUARE PIXEL |
| 23:29.33 | pfred1 | ACK |
| 23:29.43 | RenatoSilva | thanks all |
| 23:29.45 | *** part/#debian RenatoSilva (~renato@187.13.202.145) |
| 23:29.59 | stew | Shadow`: you must refrain from name-calling in here. if you don't like what someone has to say, please just use /ignore instead of resorting to name calling |
| 23:30.34 | pfred1 | stew hey I was pretty frustrated a couple of days ago myself dealing with gfx drivers I know how it can be |
| 23:30.53 | *** part/#debian proxy15 (~carlos@186.2.136.17) |
| 23:32.23 | *** join/#debian elbing (~elbing@120.Red-83-40-146.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:33.12 | *** join/#debian Flimblestien (~Ash@unaffiliated/ashhh) |
| 23:33.13 | *** join/#debian RenatoSilva (~renato@187.13.202.145) |
| 23:33.20 | pfred1 | hey who wants to check out a screenshot of my desktop? http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4048/screenshot1ro.png |
| 23:33.42 | RenatoSilva | Is there a way to list all packages who are installed only for being recommendations of some other package? |
| 23:34.07 | RenatoSilva | pfred1: ugly |
| 23:34.10 | Shadow` | stew, fine, i know it was very helpfull to throw my ati out of the window |
| 23:34.25 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva I'm a gearhead so it appeals to me |
| 23:35.18 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva or were you saying I was ugly in the thumbnail of me beside Chamberlain Lake? |
| 23:35.57 | RenatoSilva | your desktop |
| 23:36.20 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva the gears even spin around the titlebar buttons come on! |
| 23:37.48 | *** join/#debian proxy15 (~carlos@186.2.136.17) |
| 23:38.34 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva I am starting to think I should change the gray of the window bodies though |
| 23:40.54 | *** join/#debian Satpol (~Satpol@118.96.202.106) |
| 23:42.58 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva what about this is it an improvement? http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6636/screenshot2gn.png |
| 23:43.20 | *** join/#debian Cullz (792ce8ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.44.232.174) |
| 23:43.56 | RenatoSilva | no |
| 23:44.21 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva you know I'm getting the distinct impression that you just don't like rust |
| 23:45.08 | RenatoSilva | that's not what I don't like about it |
| 23:45.28 | *** join/#debian mambers (~pynchon@173.216.36.160) |
| 23:45.28 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva ah the brown is awfully Ubuntuy now that I think about it |
| 23:45.50 | RenatoSilva | it's mainly the unprofessional font rendering, and gui |
| 23:46.05 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva you don't like Gnome? |
| 23:46.05 | RenatoSilva | unprofessional in the sense of being pretty |
| 23:46.06 | mambers | how do i get terminus to show up in xlsfonts |
| 23:46.32 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva this is an HTPC in my bedroom |
| 23:46.50 | pfred1 | mambers oh X fonts I'm OK with those |
| 23:47.08 | mambers | ? |
| 23:47.16 | pfred1 | mambers duid you do a sudo fc-cache -f -v ? |
| 23:47.24 | pfred1 | did you even |
| 23:48.20 | mambers | pfred1: yes, still nothing |
| 23:48.27 | *** join/#debian eDose (~eDose@web00.franceschelli.eu) |
| 23:48.49 | h3sp4wn | mambers: xset fp+ /etc/X11/fonts/misc |
| 23:48.54 | h3sp4wn | mambers: xset fp rehash |
| 23:49.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 937] by debhelper |
| 23:49.12 | mambers | oh there it is |
| 23:49.12 | mambers | k |
| 23:49.12 | h3sp4wn | mambers: Or did you install it manually ? |
| 23:49.31 | pfred1 | mambers I have them here I thought that fc-cache would do all of that for you I guess I was mistaken |
| 23:50.28 | pfred1 | man xlsfonts | grep -i terminus | wc -l = 442 ! |
| 23:51.12 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 23:51.24 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 23:51.47 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 23:51.56 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 23:54.28 | cn28h | if I install squeeze grub2 is default, right? |
| 23:54.39 | *** join/#debian Italian_Plumber (~Italian_P@adsl-074-236-202-005.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:56.07 | RenatoSilva | pfred1: http://i.imgur.com/mFt96.png, http://i.imgur.com/n1U74.png |
| 23:56.27 | *** join/#debian eDose (~eDose@web00.franceschelli.eu) |
| 23:56.31 | dondelelcaro | cn28h: depends on the architecture, but it should be, yes |
| 23:56.43 | cn28h | amd64, yeah thought so, thanks |
| 23:57.04 | *** join/#debian mft (~mft@S01060019660e296a.nb.shawcable.net) |
| 23:57.42 | pfred1 | RenatoSilva looks minty |
