| 00:00.03 | stew | froggyman: "apt-get build-dep dropbox" would get all the build dependencies |
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| 00:00.12 | stew | froggyman: you also should perhaps look at /msg dpkg ssb |
| 00:00.14 | pfred1 | yedah probably have to make a new initrd or something to get it to actually work |
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| 00:02.10 | ma3x | hm didn't know that it needed dpkg-reconfigure. thanks stew |
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| 00:04.23 | froggyman | stew, oh. I was unaware of that |
| 00:05.26 | doublehp | how do i generate a secure random password ? |
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| 00:05.43 | nevyn | mkpasswd? |
| 00:06.01 | nevyn | doublehp: I like cat /dev/urandom|strings -n 10 |
| 00:06.02 | cokegen | pngl: stat /etc/init.d/redis.myapp.production |
| 00:06.39 | wobblyonions | there are loads of tools out there doublehp to create a totally random password, I have found that the perl ones are best |
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| 00:07.32 | nevyn | wobblyonions: bah shell ftw |
| 00:07.45 | cafuego | derchris: pwgen |
| 00:07.56 | cafuego | doubleh even |
| 00:08.01 | cafuego | aaargh |
| 00:08.30 | nevyn | cafuego: give up and go home ;) |
| 00:08.39 | cafuego | I *am* home :-P |
| 00:08.43 | nevyn | :) |
| 00:08.45 | nevyn | oh right... |
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| 00:11.25 | pngl | cokegen: sorry, I was caught up in something else. Thanks for helping. http://pastie.org/1377934 |
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| 00:13.24 | pfred1 | how do people usually play audio CDs on a sata drive? |
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| 00:15.25 | frostschutz | pfred1: with any cd player of your choice? |
| 00:15.52 | pfred1 | frostschutz no |
| 00:16.04 | pfred1 | frostschutz I've tried two neither function |
| 00:16.22 | pfred1 | those *were* my choices |
| 00:16.43 | pfred1 | sp apparently there is a bit more to it than that |
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| 00:17.39 | comradekingu1 | pfred1: Rip with rubyripper, play with audio player of choice |
| 00:18.00 | pfred1 | comradekingu1 again not a viable option one application eeds to play the audio CD |
| 00:18.17 | comradekingu1 | ok, vlc |
| 00:18.21 | cokegen | pngl: /path/to/actual/redis.clozcoud.production has inside something that's not found ... |
| 00:18.27 | pfred1 | well i would like it to at any rate for it to be 100% functional |
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| 00:18.29 | cokegen | you'll have to edit the script |
| 00:18.37 | c1b3rh4ck | clear |
| 00:18.53 | cokegen | command not found is exactly that ... a command that's not found, can't be anything else |
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| 00:19.07 | pfred1 | yeah right now supposedly I'm ".listening" to a CD now too bad I don't hear anything! |
| 00:19.08 | cokegen | find the command that's failing inside the script |
| 00:19.21 | pngl | cokegen: ok, so it's not the command itself but something inside it. |
| 00:19.25 | pfred1 | but the drive is playing merrily away |
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| 00:19.49 | pngl | cokegen: what I don't get is that the file should execute with /etc/init.d as pwd, right? |
| 00:19.50 | comradekingu1 | pfred1: Try looking in alsamixer if your soundcard is muted |
| 00:20.00 | pfred1 | the counter is running in the application everything looks like I am listening to a CD i just don't hear any music |
| 00:20.03 | comradekingu1 | run "alsamixer" in a terminal |
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| 00:20.16 | cokegen | I can't say, I don't know what's inside the script and what it should achieve |
| 00:20.16 | pfred1 | comradekingu1 come on man I didn't start running Linux yesterday you know? |
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| 00:20.44 | pngl | cokegen: just a normal init script. But, theoretically, shouldn't it make no difference? |
| 00:20.45 | pfred1 | comradekingu1 maybe yesterday plus 16 years |
| 00:20.58 | Harzilein | hi |
| 00:20.59 | comradekingu1 | pfred1: You are giving me exaclty nothing that can help me figure out your problem. If you dont want to give better info then i suggest simple stuff |
| 00:21.16 | pfred1 | comradekingu1 what would you like to know? |
| 00:21.39 | pfred1 | comradekingu1 all sound works except for CD audio |
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| 00:21.53 | pfred1 | midi wave you name it |
| 00:21.57 | comradekingu1 | Try looking for settings in bios |
| 00:21.58 | stew | pfred1: did you connect an audio cable from your cd player to your sound card when it was installed? |
| 00:22.12 | pfred1 | stew opn a sata drive ther is no audio cable |
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| 00:22.30 | frostschutz | pfred1: do you have mplayer, does sound work with mplayer, then try mplayer cdda:// |
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| 00:23.43 | pngl | cokegen: you're wrong. I can execute the script using source redis.clozcloud.production. It's just sudo redis.clozcloud.production that doesn't work. |
| 00:24.10 | pfred1 | frostschutz I have it http://pastebin.com/76Sp3qhX |
| 00:24.23 | pfred1 | just does that over and over |
| 00:24.59 | pfred1 | well it did this first: Found audio CD with 11 tracks. |
| 00:25.46 | comradekingu1 | pfred1: the rubyripper solution would be a workaround i suppose |
| 00:26.01 | pfred1 | frostschutz congratz that is about the most interesting thing I've seen about this |
| 00:26.06 | frostschutz | cdrecord -prcap | grep audio? |
| 00:26.17 | pfred1 | comradekingu1 how is that going to get CD audio working in Quake for me? |
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| 00:27.31 | chomwitt | is there a danger if i update a program while i run it ? |
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| 00:27.53 | pfred1 | chomwitt danger you won't see the new code until you restart the app |
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| 00:28.44 | _dreamy | is kde 4.x also made to run on lenny? |
| 00:29.08 | pfred1 | _dreamy last time I installed Lenny I was dissapoi9nted to see KDE 4 in it I prefer 3.5 |
| 00:29.25 | pfred1 | which my other Lenny box seems to have |
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| 00:30.09 | chomwitt | pfred1: isnt it possible that half of the binary is in ram and when a page is referenced that page wont be found cause the executable changed? |
| 00:30.17 | _dreamy | kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 -- is it this package ? i already installed it |
| 00:30.24 | kj4 | hello- is 'aptitude update' preferred over 'apt-get update'? I seem to see conflicting information regarding those two |
| 00:30.29 | stew | _dreamy: kde4 isn't in lenny |
| 00:30.35 | pfred1 | chomwitt I supose I've never seen it happen though not so sure what the danger would be in it anyways |
| 00:30.58 | _dreamy | stew: can i install it ? |
| 00:31.00 | pfred1 | stew that is strange I got it when I instelled like 3 days ago |
| 00:31.19 | abrotman | kj4: it's ultimately up to you .. you can run both commands, it won't hurt anything .. you're just updating available packages |
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| 00:31.59 | stew | _dreamy: afaik, not easily |
| 00:32.14 | kj4 | abrotman: thanks |
| 00:32.29 | abrotman | kj4: actually upgrading your packages is a different question |
| 00:32.33 | pfred1 | stew how can I put this to you so that you understand it I just got it here! |
| 00:32.52 | _dreamy | stew: so, the debian release coming after lenny, is debian "testing" ? |
| 00:33.00 | pfred1 | stew I installed lenny did help about in KDE and it was 4.something |
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| 00:33.29 | pfred1 | stew because i detest KDE 4 |
| 00:33.57 | kj4 | abrotman: ah, ok. as in apt-get upgrade vs. aptitude upgrade? what do I need to know about those |
| 00:34.10 | abrotman | just that aptitude has better problem resolution |
| 00:34.16 | pfred1 | stew but my older box has 3.5 on it and even upgrading it stays 3.5 |
| 00:34.21 | stew | judd: versions kate |
| 00:34.22 | judd | Package kate on i386 -- etch-security: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch1; etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2; etch-backports: 4:3.5.7-4~bpo40+1; lenny: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; lenny-security: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; sid: 4:4.4.5-1; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1 |
| 00:34.28 | abrotman | kj4: that's the most important difference |
| 00:34.28 | stew | judd: versions konsole |
| 00:34.29 | judd | Package konsole on i386 -- etch-security: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch1; etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2; etch-backports: 4:3.5.7-4~bpo40+1; lenny: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; lenny-security: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; sid: 4:4.4.5-1; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1 |
| 00:34.46 | stew | pfred1: you'll find that although there are some libraries supporting 4, the bulk of the actual applications are 3.5 |
| 00:34.57 | stew | pfred1: here's the kde team's page: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html |
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| 00:35.06 | stew | "KDE 4 requires some software that is not available in the Debian 5.0 "lenny" release. Therefore, it can only be installed on systems using the testing branches." |
| 00:35.13 | pfred1 | stew well it looked like 4 to me |
| 00:35.37 | pfred1 | said it was in help about too |
| 00:35.50 | kj4 | abrotman: i've been using aptitude exclusively, except apt-cache come in handy |
| 00:36.15 | stew | judd: info kwin --release lenny |
| 00:36.18 | judd | Package kwin (kde, optional) in lenny/i386: the KDE window manager. Version: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; Size: 1076.7k; Installed: 3472k; Homepage: http://www.kde.org; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/kwin |
| 00:36.27 | abrotman | kj4: that's fine |
| 00:36.33 | pfred1 | and that was before i upgraded to Squeeze it actually made the choice easier for me being as I wasn't losing anything over it |
| 00:36.54 | pfred1 | can't lose what you don't have |
| 00:37.49 | yagoo | hey anyone of you know if debian is rolling out that october booster .patch for it's squeeze's 2.6.32 kernel? |
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| 00:38.46 | pfred1 | yagoo I am running the 2.6.36.1 booster patch from kernel.org :) |
| 00:38.56 | yagoo | pfred1, :) |
| 00:39.25 | dvs | old. ;-) |
| 00:39.27 | pfred1 | even 2.6.32 would have borderline support for my hardware |
| 00:39.32 | yagoo | pfred1, i know.. i'm asking because i'm able to do so --- only problem the ntfs-3g module crashes with it.. not sure why that is.. must be that i have to update fuse or something |
| 00:39.44 | _dreamy | stew: do you know if this instructions apply to debian lenny ... --- http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html |
| 00:39.53 | yagoo | pfred1, since i need to use ntfs i have to go back to use .26 |
| 00:40.04 | stew | _dreamy: no, those are for unstable aka sid |
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| 00:40.21 | pfred1 | yagoo is ntfs windows filesystem? |
| 00:40.33 | stew | _dreamy: in fact, right at the top of that page is says explicitly its not for lenny |
| 00:41.11 | yagoo | pfred1, ntfs the filesystem.. i'm not sure how ntfs-3g module is being used from .36 though.. but it would be great if that booster is in squeeze |
| 00:41.19 | pfred1 | _dreamy much as i like Lenny it is just too old for a lot of newer stuff today |
| 00:41.51 | pfred1 | like there was no way I could get hardware video acceleration running Lenny |
| 00:42.05 | pfred1 | no possible way! |
| 00:42.08 | _dreamy | theres 6.0 coming out rigth ? |
| 00:42.31 | dvs | yes |
| 00:42.33 | yagoo | _dreamy, santa made a deal with debian.. that's why dec 25th sounds like a good date to me |
| 00:42.58 | yagoo | _dreamy, just be a good boy until then.. santa will be coming your way |
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| 00:43.08 | pfred1 | yagoo Santa said buy on black friday so christmas is done here :) |
| 00:43.09 | neoice | no release until the first please |
| 00:43.29 | neoice | I dont want to have updates on vacation |
| 00:43.33 | yagoo | pfred1, i'm afraid of those stampedes.. i'd rather do things cyberlly :p |
| 00:43.44 | pfred1 | yagoo oh yes i ordered everything online |
| 00:43.49 | yagoo | haha |
| 00:44.03 | pfred1 | yagoo still savged I don't know like $200 building this system |
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| 00:45.04 | yagoo | pfred1, i built my latest baby by what the benchmarkers use.. i think im quite satisfied with that decision |
| 00:45.22 | pfred1 | yagoo i bought the cheapest of the cheap on sale I'm thrilled |
| 00:45.44 | pfred1 | yagoo full kernel build in a little over 19 minutes |
| 00:45.53 | yagoo | pfred1, amd post benchmarks.. i followed the same hardware piece by piece.. except for the hd which wasn't published.. |
| 00:46.09 | yagoo | pfred1, that's dam fast.. 19 minutes.. |
| 00:46.18 | pfred1 | like the whole dpkg build modules the works |
| 00:46.21 | yagoo | pfred1, you running a pci-e ramdisk there? |
| 00:46.34 | pfred1 | nah i set concurrency=4 :) |
| 00:46.40 | pfred1 | that is the trick use all CPUs |
| 00:46.45 | yagoo | oh really.. hmm |
| 00:46.55 | pfred1 | yeah it is an export before you build |
| 00:47.07 | pfred1 | I'll get exact command |
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| 00:47.30 | pfred1 | export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4 |
| 00:47.34 | yagoo | interesting.. gnu should place this in their shoe |
| 00:47.38 | pfred1 | do that then build a kernel |
| 00:47.54 | pfred1 | you'll think you're traveling back in time |
| 00:48.07 | pfred1 | real19m19.001s user62m59.716s |
| 00:48.26 | pfred1 | machine did 62 minutes of work in 19! |
| 00:48.58 | yagoo | pfred1, bs.. where's there a doc about tihs |
| 00:49.12 | pfred1 | just do it man run htop |
| 00:49.20 | pfred1 | without you use 1 CPU with it you use all |
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| 00:49.40 | yagoo | must be that gcc is crafted to work with that toggle |
| 00:49.51 | pfred1 | yes it is a C switch |
| 00:50.05 | yagoo | ah |
| 00:50.14 | karlpinc | (see also: make -j) |
| 00:50.21 | yagoo | so if i have 3 cores.. i'm assuming it'll work on this amd as well.. |
| 00:50.31 | yagoo | =3 |
| 00:50.38 | pfred1 | might want ot set it at 3 or do yo uhave 6 ? |
| 00:50.40 | yagoo | an equal to three =3 |
| 00:50.48 | yagoo | =3 =3 =3 =3 |
| 00:50.50 | yagoo | :))))) |
| 00:50.54 | pfred1 | I have a dual core but OS sees 4 CPUs |
| 00:51.01 | yagoo | i'll try that laster this week.... |
| 00:51.08 | pfred1 | because of hyperthreading I am told |
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| 00:51.15 | yagoo | took me an hour 15 minutes couple weeks ago on this amd |
| 00:51.38 | pfred1 | oh I don't know about AMD their 3 might just be 3 |
| 00:52.08 | pfred1 | run htop it should give you gas gauges for each CPU |
| 00:52.48 | yagoo | that should cut me down sometime for new compiles.. |
| 00:53.10 | pfred1 | man my old 1 GHz P3 could build a kernel in under an hour :) |
| 00:53.16 | yagoo | however i remember i had to do a manual initram command.. the make-kpkg didn't embed one of those initrd.img files.. |
| 00:53.49 | yagoo | pfred1, no way.. you're exagerrating |
| 00:53.51 | yagoo | lol |
| 00:54.10 | pfred1 | no I think it only used to take 48 minutes? |
| 00:54.21 | yagoo | pfred1, i basically use make oldconfig from the config in /boot and set everything to module.. |
| 00:54.47 | pfred1 | yeah I'd do a make allnoconfig then jsut add what i need |
| 00:55.06 | yagoo | pfred1, you have a post-script for making the initrd.img file ? make-kpkg looks for something to deal with initrd.imgs |
| 00:55.10 | pfred1 | is a minimalist |
| 00:55.46 | pfred1 | time fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=3:giga.1.1 kernel_image |
| 00:55.46 | yagoo | pfred1, doesnt that add experimental? |
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| 00:56.20 | pfred1 | that command does it all |
| 00:56.24 | yagoo | pfred1, yeah.. that.. --initrd didn't have an effect.. someone in the manpages it mentions about having a script set for it.. |
| 00:56.36 | pfred1 | works here i donno |
| 00:56.56 | pfred1 | but only on debianized kernels |
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| 00:57.07 | yagoo | ,/somewhere,/.. am using some 5.03 lenny here.. dunno what to add or what where for the initrd.. but i make it separately consequentially |
| 00:57.08 | stew | pfred1: realize that you don't create an inird at compile time, but one is generated during package install time |
| 00:57.17 | pfred1 | won't work on a kernel.org one I don't think not without being patched |
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| 00:57.23 | stew | pfred1: why not? |
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| 00:57.56 | pfred1 | stew I don't know honestly I've never tried just figured code would be missing |
| 00:58.16 | yagoo | perhaps i should file a bug.. seems not to be kicking in when i last made a kernel few weeks ago.. |
| 00:58.20 | jasonmchristos | Hello my name is Jason and I want to host an openVPN server is debian a good platform? |
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| 00:58.36 | acu | I am connected through a cable modem which is supposed to work as a bridge - it seem that it blocks port 80 - so the webserver cannot be reached from outside - is there a command or utility which will allow me to check whether the cable modem blocks port 80 ? |
| 00:59.08 | yagoo | jasonmchristos, you kidding jesus over santa on me? lol.. debian is the only good distro.. |
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| 00:59.18 | pfred1 | stew when i have did the make-kpkg on non debian trees I've always patched it so I just assumed it wouldn't work on a vanilla one |
| 00:59.20 | jasonmchristos | :) |
| 00:59.42 | jasonmchristos | the only thing which gravitated me towards fedora was selinux i like to have good security |
| 00:59.50 | pfred1 | this kernel i just installed the old sashioned way didn't bother with make-kpkg |
| 00:59.58 | yagoo | jasonmchristos, you can toggle selinux in debian as well.. |
| 01:00.47 | jasonmchristos | yagoo: during install? |
| 01:01.11 | pfred1 | yagoo I still need to run through my kernel config and change some things but I have it close now |
| 01:01.22 | yagoo | !selinux |
| 01:01.23 | dpkg | Security Enhanced Linux (SELinux) is NSA's port of the FLASK Security Architecture to Linux. Also it can make your system unbootable if you uninstall it. Unofficial FAQ: http://www.crypt.gen.nz/selinux/faq.html . http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux http://selinuxproject.org/ #selinux on irc.freenode.net. See also <apparmor>, <tomoyo>. |
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| 01:01.51 | pfred1 | apparently I am missing something with my scsi drivers |
| 01:02.02 | yagoo | it's disabled by default but you can enable it from the debian wiki instructions |
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| 01:03.02 | jasonmchristos | yagoo: can you direct me to the wiki |
| 01:03.18 | yagoo | pfred1, aren't you the electronic engineer with that youtube site? |
| 01:03.30 | yagoo | jasonmchristos, dpkg said hte site :) |
| 01:03.50 | pfred1 | yagoo no engineer I just make stuff |
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| 01:04.13 | pfred1 | yagoo I got a soldering iron and I'm dangerous! |
| 01:04.14 | yagoo | pfred1, oh ya..lol.. i think i remember you.. you eat meat :p |
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| 01:04.33 | tharkun | acu: telnet your.ip.here 80 |
| 01:04.50 | tharkun | should give you some information on what is going on |
| 01:05.09 | pfred1 | watch Lenny run a motor on my desk! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgbeyNNBZ68 |
| 01:06.20 | yagoo | pfred1, you get snow there? i think i remember yuo saying you live out in the country and get meat next door all nice and fresh :p |
| 01:06.47 | yagoo | pfred1, yeah.. i remember that site you mentioned about a power converter you made.. |
| 01:06.48 | pfred1 | yagoo while people grow livestock close by me I get my meat from the grocery store like most |
| 01:06.49 | yagoo | :p |
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| 01:07.17 | pfred1 | guy around teh corner actually has a herd of buffalo which is unuusal for here |
| 01:07.30 | pfred1 | they're so cute! |
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| 01:07.58 | yagoo | pfred1, it's really cool energy.. you can use the manure for free electricity :p |
| 01:08.20 | pfred1 | its only free if you can train the buffalo to shovel it up |
| 01:08.25 | yagoo | pfred1, if you say they cute.. don't they eat them ? |
| 01:08.40 | pfred1 | oh I would never eat buffalo too weird for me! |
| 01:09.04 | pfred1 | well I guess if I was really hungry I could adjust my tastes but ... |
| 01:09.22 | dvs | pfred1: not even their wings? ;-) |
| 01:09.40 | pfred1 | dvs i don't go for a lot of spice i like the food to speak for itself |
| 01:09.49 | yagoo | pfred1, talking about trains.. quite sometime ago i spotted a cow who got it's face take off -- not caught during the incident.. but the aftermath of it just standing there witouth it's face (liveleak.com).. fences are a good tool to prevent this .. |
| 01:10.02 | pfred1 | if it sucks so badly you have to spice it up that much t oeat it I'd rather eat something else |
| 01:10.08 | yagoo | pfred1, oops.. you said "train" as in training some skillset :p.. |
| 01:10.50 | pfred1 | we have a train here I don't think it runs but a few times a year though |
| 01:11.18 | pfred1 | our train tracks get mighty rusty! |
| 01:11.21 | yagoo | pfred1, it's the weirdest non-linux related crap you can find about "HOLY COW".. hahaha.. so off topic |
| 01:11.31 | dondelelcaro | folks, #debian-offtopic is that way |
| 01:11.57 | yagoo | dondelelcaro, holy cow! :p |
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| 01:12.05 | Jezek | how do i restart iptables |
| 01:12.24 | yagoo | dondelelcaro, i think i'm gonna file a bug against make-kpkg.. missing a script to make initrd.img :(((( |
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| 01:13.55 | stew | yagoo: the script is provided by initramfs-tools, not by kernel-package |
| 01:14.24 | stew | yagoo: does /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools exist? |
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| 01:16.16 | yagoo | stew, actually it doesn't.. apt-file search initramfs-tools doesn't show anything ..(amd64) |
| 01:16.31 | yagoo | stew, i'm assuming kernel-package i reportbug? |
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| 01:16.43 | dondelelcaro | yagoo: it's not a bug in kernel-package |
| 01:17.05 | stew | judd: file /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools |
| 01:17.08 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 01:17.14 | stew | yagoo: you are on lenny? |
| 01:17.35 | yagoo | dondelelcaro, so initramfs-tools is installed on here.. but that /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools file doesnt exist (lenny 5.0.6) |
| 01:18.22 | stew | oh, this stuff changed from lenny to squeeze |
| 01:18.56 | pfred1 | yagoo when I was building kernels it was in Lenny |
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| 01:19.10 | pfred1 | I've yet to build one in squeeze yet but I am fixing to |
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| 01:19.35 | pfred1 | I think my can't hear an audio CD might be kernel config related |
| 01:19.40 | yagoo | stew, make-kpkg --initrd won't make the initramdisk.. not sure how to configure the hook script.. but i easily make it with update-initramfs -c -k <> .. i'm guessing it's a bug with initramfs-tools pacakge? |
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| 01:19.47 | toolz | hi, there was a site which was telling you how to build an USB stick for newer machines, something with k... |
| 01:19.53 | toolz | anyone has any idea? |
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| 01:20.16 | dvs | !kmuto |
| 01:20.16 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
| 01:20.25 | yagoo | stew, i'll manually download the .deb and look at it.. |
| 01:20.39 | toolz | kmuto!!! |
| 01:20.48 | toolz | thanks |
| 01:20.51 | dvs | np |
| 01:21.16 | pfred1 | I did all my installs of USB stick this box |
| 01:21.20 | stew | yagoo: note that make-kpkg doens't make an initrd ever. --initrd should make it make a .deb that will create an inird when it is installed |
| 01:21.30 | stew | yagoo: you are going to manually download which .deb? |
| 01:21.43 | pfred1 | first time unetbootin workd then it wouldn't for debian was strange |
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| 01:22.56 | yagoo | stew, apt-cache policy initramfs-tools -- its from backports |
| 01:23.35 | yagoo | (0.94.4~bpo50+1) |
| 01:23.44 | yagoo | oops |
| 01:23.53 | yagoo | the one i have installed is 0.92 from debian.org |
| 01:23.56 | yagoo | dam |
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| 01:37.27 | yagoo | stew, i downloaded the deb and didnt see anything about copying into that conf.d folder.. but i do see an example (/usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs from kernel-package) |
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| 01:37.47 | yagoo | bb |
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| 01:41.38 | yagoo | hey hey hey |
| 01:41.47 | yagoo | dondelelcaro, you using lenny? |
| 01:42.11 | yagoo | dondelelcaro, that file there for you? i'm ready to bug the package maintainers.. i just need some clearance assurance insurance |
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| 01:51.01 | LemensTS | If I was wanting to create my own debian ISO with Apache already installed and configured, what would be the best way? Ive read about a couple ways now, seems editing a preseed file with scripts that would install apache seems easeist...? |
| 01:51.14 | yagoo | lol.. you folks probably got it wrong .. /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/intramfs (kernel-package) seems the closest i can find about this script :))) still i reportbugged to initramfs-tools as suggested :)) |
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| 01:51.32 | LemensTS | btw im wanting to install and configure Asterisk not Apache...just figured everyone knows what apache is |
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| 01:53.40 | hellyeah | okey |
| 01:53.41 | hellyeah | ppl |
| 01:53.48 | hellyeah | i just say what the fuck |
| 01:53.53 | abrotman | okay ... people |
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| 01:54.14 | dvs | o_O |
| 01:55.32 | hellyeah | because this is not working i wqant to install debian from usb i download debian iso i download universal usb installer and but when installing debian i pushed detect cd rom and debian installation said me cd rom drive was not detect i took same message when i do debian usb installer with unetbootin and win32diskimager |
| 01:55.38 | hellyeah | anything said to me |
| 01:55.58 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 01:55.58 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 01:56.06 | hellyeah | lol |
| 01:56.12 | hellyeah | you read my paragraph |
| 01:56.16 | hellyeah | it doesnt work |
| 01:57.21 | hellyeah | there is a problem i dont understand |
| 01:57.29 | Jezek | how do i open up ports so i can make an ircbot on my server? |
| 01:57.39 | hellyeah | debian installer idoes not detect my cd rom driver |
| 01:57.43 | hellyeah | why |
| 01:58.09 | hellyeah | pls someone help |
| 01:58.45 | f00li5h | what kind of cdrom drive do you have? |
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| 01:59.04 | abrotman | hellyeah: what is "universal usb installer? |
| 01:59.48 | hellyeah | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ |
| 02:00.11 | abrotman | right .. so apparently you can't read .. try the instructions above, not some weird website that Debian doesn't have anyhting to do with |
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| 02:01.05 | hellyeah | okey i will re try |
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| 02:01.12 | hellyeah | first win32diskimager |
| 02:01.41 | abrotman | Jezek: you don't have to open ports |
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| 02:02.15 | Jezek | i did |
| 02:02.19 | tool | was proftpd updated on debian mirrors? to 1.3.3c ? |
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| 02:02.27 | Jezek | telnet chat.freenode.net 6667 |
| 02:03.02 | Jezek | oh i dont have telnet |
| 02:03.20 | Jezek | but either way.. |
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| 02:03.27 | Jezek | i cant get a connection |
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| 02:03.39 | abrotman | tool: packages.debian.org/proftpd ? |
| 02:04.37 | tool | gosh its a major vulnerability on those versions |
| 02:04.58 | hellyeah | abrotman: |
| 02:04.59 | stew | tool: debian has applied patches to it |
| 02:05.09 | hellyeah | must i push read/write which one |
| 02:05.12 | Jezek | how do i undo the rules then |
| 02:05.14 | stew | tool: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/proftpd-dfsg/news/20101103T144847Z.html |
| 02:05.16 | hellyeah | first read than write |
| 02:05.27 | tool | stew, if I install debian now with proftpd, I shouldnt worry abouyt it? |
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| 02:05.45 | stew | tool: what is the CVE id of the bug you are worried about? |
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| 02:06.17 | stew | tool: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/proftpd-dfsg |
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| 02:06.20 | Jezek | or i have no idea what im doing |
| 02:06.21 | Jezek | actually |
| 02:06.27 | tool | http://proftpd.org/docs/RELEASE_NOTES-1.3.3c |
| 02:06.31 | abrotman | hellyeah: read the instructions, i'm not going to do it for you |
| 02:06.42 | histo | hrm... Is there a way to get framebuffer working properly? I'm trying to run an sdl app but i'm getting errors about /dev/fb0 not being present |
| 02:06.46 | abrotman | tool: the CVE |
| 02:07.59 | Jezek | fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: unable to connect to chat.freenode.net:6667 (Connection timed out) |
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| 02:13.52 | Jezek | damn you bot |
| 02:13.54 | tool | whats CVE? |
| 02:14.17 | stew | !cve |
| 02:14.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, cve is Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures, a database of publicly known information security vulnerabilities. http://cve.mitre.org/ Most Debian Security Announcements have a CVE identifier, ask me about <dsa>. Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information. |
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| 02:14.47 | tool | Telnet IAC stack overflow vulnerability (ZDI-CAN-925) directory traversal bug in mod_site_misc SQLite authentications using "SQLAuthType Backend" |
| 02:14.48 | stew | tool: if you look at the last two uploads for proftpd-dfsg in the pts they are to fix the security problems fixed by the latest upstream release |
| 02:14.49 | tool | these |
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| 02:14.59 | hellyeah | blue ray |
| 02:15.10 | stew | tool: though if stable is affected, I don't see a fix going to stable yet |
| 02:15.13 | hellyeah | f00li5h: i have blue ray |
| 02:15.33 | f00li5h | hellyeah: so, it's not a a cd drive, is it? |
| 02:15.37 | stew | tool: looks like: http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2008-7265 and http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2010-3867 |
| 02:15.38 | hellyeah | debian detects blue ray |
| 02:15.43 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 02:15.46 | hellyeah | yes so ? |
| 02:15.53 | abrotman | hellyeah: did you finish reading the instrctions yet? it has nothing to do with your physical optical drive |
| 02:16.22 | hellyeah | where is instruction you only give download link |
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| 02:16.36 | abrotman | no, scroll up .. where you said "you did'nt read my paragraph" |
| 02:16.56 | tool | stew and how do I apply the patch? |
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| 02:17.35 | abrotman | it's already been applied |
| 02:19.10 | tool | ok |
| 02:19.39 | hellyeah | abrotman: you mean this https://answers.launchpad.net/win32-image-writer |
| 02:19.53 | abrotman | right .. but i have reading problems .. |
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| 02:20.31 | hellyeah | man |
| 02:20.35 | hellyeah | dont be rude |
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| 02:27.02 | hellyeah | abrotman: |
| 02:27.13 | hellyeah | i write debian amd64 img file to usb |
| 02:27.25 | abrotman | did you follow the instructions above? |
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| 02:28.00 | hellyeah | yes |
| 02:28.10 | oldtopman | Is anyone here? |
| 02:28.17 | hellyeah | i pushed write button i guess it must work right |
| 02:28.50 | oldtopman | Ho do you make apt-get work? |
| 02:29.23 | oldtopman | It only installs software on the CD, then asks to insert the disk. |
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| 02:29.59 | abrotman | oldtopman: you should alter your sources.list |
| 02:30.01 | dvs | oldtopman: you have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 02:30.02 | oldtopman | well, is anyone else here? |
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| 02:30.23 | amphi | other than whom? |
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| 02:31.24 | Bushmills | somebody who comes up with a different solution? like "clap twice in your hands to fix that"? |
| 02:31.43 | oldtopman | I did not get you reply until just after I sent the post. |
| 02:32.07 | tool | abrotman, should be ok? Get:13 http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main proftpd 1.3.1-17lenny4 [195kB] |
| 02:32.13 | tool | I mean it contains the latest patches? |
| 02:33.17 | oldtopman | I am sorry, but what is the editor here in gnome? |
| 02:33.45 | oldtopman | I am an XFCE and KDE user and thusky, don't know the name of the program |
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| 02:37.46 | hellyeah | abrotman: i found something http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-netbook/windows-instructions thss ss that ? |
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| 02:39.00 | oldtopman | I edited the list to remove the disc and then ran apt-get update. apt-get install firefox still doesn't work |
| 02:39.00 | amphi | oldtopman: gedit maybe? I don't use gnome myself |
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| 02:39.03 | oldtopman | Help? |
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| 02:39.22 | oldtopman | I just ran nautilus as root. |
| 02:39.23 | amphi | oldtopman: or pico in a term |
| 02:39.44 | amphi | er, nano |
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| 02:39.52 | abrotman | hellyeah: the instructoins ABOVE .. |
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| 02:40.25 | hellyeah | which is instruction i dont understand abrotman please just give me the link please |
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| 02:43.05 | Dewi | !tell hellyeah about usb install |
| 02:43.16 | Dewi | those instructions, hellyeah |
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| 02:43.40 | hellyeah | okey i read that |
| 02:43.46 | hellyeah | i am using windows |
| 02:44.15 | hellyeah | so i download windows 7 and my computer can be bootable with usb |
| 02:44.18 | hellyeah | so so so |
| 02:44.37 | hellyeah | i download win32diskimager i have debian amd64.img file |
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| 02:45.07 | hellyeah | than what i open program and select img file than i clik read when read operation done i click write |
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| 02:45.11 | hellyeah | is that correct |
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| 02:45.24 | abrotman | he still didn't read it |
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| 02:47.38 | hellyeah | i didnt see i guess this is for linux http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 02:48.06 | hellyeah | second link you gave it is for win32diskimager i downloaded |
| 02:48.35 | hellyeah | third kink is for ppl who cant boot computer from usb i can boot computer from usb |
| 02:48.38 | hellyeah | what is the deal |
| 02:49.03 | Dewi | hellyeah: you've booted from usb |
| 02:49.13 | Dewi | hellyeah: so what's the problem? |
| 02:49.18 | hellyeah | i can boot |
| 02:49.29 | Dewi | hellyeah: so install from usb, not cd-rom |
| 02:49.34 | hellyeah | and i see debian installation screen |
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| 02:49.47 | hellyeah | i said graphical install |
| 02:49.52 | hellyeah | sorry choose |
| 02:50.06 | hellyeah | i choose my language keyboard layouts |
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| 02:50.40 | hellyeah | but when ni push load component from cd debian told me cd rom drive was not detected |
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| 02:51.07 | Dewi | hellyeah: don't use a CD |
| 02:51.08 | hellyeah | if i dopnt push that installer constantly try to detect cd rom drive |
| 02:51.20 | hellyeah | okey i got you but there is a problem |
| 02:51.43 | hellyeah | i cannot see partition menu install base system select package and so on |
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| 02:52.33 | hellyeah | win32diskimager wants a file whose extension is img |
| 02:52.38 | hellyeah | i download it okey |
| 02:53.02 | hellyeah | so i open win32diskimager software and select img file than what |
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| 02:55.02 | hellyeah | so |
| 02:55.13 | hellyeah | anything you said if you want give instruction |
| 02:55.18 | hellyeah | !usb installer |
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| 02:56.26 | l0rd_hex | so I have this sparc machine running lenny |
| 02:56.45 | l0rd_hex | and when I did a apt-get upgrade it threw in a new kernel |
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| 02:57.09 | hellyeah | any comment |
| 02:57.15 | l0rd_hex | the problem is now, it gets to the SILO boot prompt and says "Read error on block %%%%%%" |
| 02:58.05 | l0rd_hex | I tried /boot/vmlinux-2.6.26-2-sparc64-smp at the boot: and it gives me the same error |
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| 02:58.13 | hellyeah | why no one answers m e |
| 02:58.35 | oldtopman | l0rd_hex:The way i fix it (it is over kill, but it works) is to zero out the HD |
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| 02:58.57 | l0rd_hex | oldtopman: I can't even get the kernel to boot, let alone run dd |
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| 02:59.34 | hellyeah | you gotta be kidiing me |
| 03:00.08 | l0rd_hex | hellyeah: what do you need? |
| 03:01.03 | abrotman | l0rd_hex: you overwrote the old kernel |
| 03:01.14 | hellyeah | i just need to install debian from usb for that purpose i download win32diskimager and debian img file but when i work software and select img file than i click read than write it doesnt work |
| 03:01.23 | hellyeah | i just need urgent help |
| 03:01.27 | hellyeah | and good advsce |
| 03:01.31 | rotaticus | hellyeah: look for unetbootin and a debian .iso |
| 03:01.49 | l0rd_hex | hellyeah: last time I made a sb bootable stick I used dd.exe and the hardisk.img I think |
| 03:02.00 | l0rd_hex | but unetbootin is your best bet |
| 03:02.06 | abrotman | unetbootin rarely works |
| 03:02.11 | dvs | yeah |
| 03:02.11 | l0rd_hex | usb keys are finiky |
| 03:02.13 | hellyeah | unetbootin doesnt work |
| 03:02.17 | abrotman | the instructions *in the damn manual* work just fine |
| 03:02.18 | rotaticus | worked here smoothly |
| 03:02.22 | hellyeah | i mean |
| 03:02.27 | hellyeah | it works okey |
| 03:02.28 | failedassertion | hellyeah: possible bad disk, I suppose |
| 03:02.32 | l0rd_hex | hellyeah: go read the manual like abrotman said |
| 03:02.50 | rotaticus | indeed DO follow the rtfm :D |
| 03:03.14 | hellyeah | but when i choose load component from cd it said cd rom driver was not deteced iif i diont click load component from cd i didnt have partition hard disk install base system and such |
| 03:03.18 | amphi | "the fm", shurely |
| 03:03.31 | abrotman | no, when you follow bad instructions, the typical error is that it can't find your CD .. because you did it wrong |
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| 03:04.07 | hellyeah | what did it do wrong possible i dont understand there is two thing read and write |
| 03:04.59 | abrotman | you didn't follow the correct instructios |
| 03:05.04 | abrotman | instructions |
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| 03:05.59 | abrotman | hellyeah: i will NOT respond in msg |
| 03:06.18 | abrotman | still not responding .. have fun |
| 03:06.33 | hellyeah | sorry |
| 03:06.40 | l0rd_hex | perchance a kick will make him understand |
| 03:06.45 | hellyeah | i read channel after writing |
| 03:07.10 | hellyeah | no possibly i will give up to try installing linux |
| 03:07.12 | abrotman | Please go read the manual, it explains exactly how to do it |
| 03:07.25 | hellyeah | here is damn manual |
| 03:07.30 | l0rd_hex | hellyeah: did you.... download the boot.img.gz, decompress it (I would use 7-zip), write it to your usb key (find dd for windows) |
| 03:07.40 | l0rd_hex | mount the stick and copy over your iso? |
| 03:07.41 | rotaticus | don't try to load component from cd ... load from file perhaps ... |
| 03:07.58 | abrotman | read the instructions .. they're very clear .. worked for me every time |
| 03:08.13 | rotaticus | if there is no cd ... it might be the point |
| 03:08.22 | hellyeah | rotaticus: there is no menu like that |
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| 03:09.01 | abrotman | or, read the instructions |
| 03:09.10 | rotaticus | in unetbootin there is ... and it worked here ... as i hopefully did it right ;) |
| 03:09.38 | rotaticus | but don't bother ... just keep up trying ;) |
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| 03:09.59 | abrotman | read the correct instructions .. unetbootin fails most of the time |
| 03:10.07 | hellyeah | yes |
| 03:11.20 | rotaticus | than go and do what abrotman says it's sure not wrong either ;) just wanted to give my 2pence |
| 03:11.31 | abrotman | pence?! This is france! |
| 03:11.38 | abrotman | viva la france! |
| 03:11.53 | rotaticus | viva la muerte! |
| 03:11.58 | amphi | heh |
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| 03:12.31 | l0rd_hex | ugh, time to go revive some big iron |
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| 03:12.42 | abrotman | he has the tin man! |
| 03:12.45 | hellyeah | i download dd |
| 03:12.46 | abrotman | okay .. /me stops |
| 03:12.51 | hellyeah | i just see command probpt |
| 03:13.31 | l0rd_hex | hellyeah: you are too stupid to use a computer, sorry. You'll have to pack it back up in the box and return it. |
| 03:13.40 | rotaticus | export PS1 |
| 03:13.42 | abrotman | okay ... that's a bit much |
| 03:14.00 | l0rd_hex | okay you can keep it as a paper weight |
| 03:14.18 | hellyeah | clock is 5 a.m. |
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| 03:14.33 | hellyeah | i am awaken since another 7 a.m. |
| 03:14.43 | abrotman | so go to sleep, try again tomorrow when you're better rested |
| 03:14.44 | hellyeah | there is one day passing |
| 03:14.50 | amphi | hellyeah: maybe you should sleep, and come at it with a fresh mind |
| 03:15.12 | hellyeah | last time i ask i didnt ask promise |
| 03:15.20 | hellyeah | anytime in this moment |
| 03:15.23 | hellyeah | can i ask |
| 03:15.32 | rotaticus | don't root @body_uptime <= 10h |
| 03:16.30 | doublehp | how do i overwrite DNS servers in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf ? |
| 03:16.37 | hellyeah | step 1: i downloaded win32diskimage step 2: download debian-live-507-amd64-gnome-desktop.img file is that correct |
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| 03:17.57 | stew | doublehp: do you mean /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf? |
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| 03:18.17 | doublehp | i mean /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 03:18.37 | laurus | When I plug in my external USB HD, it is mounting at /media/ga9eir-952d... |
| 03:18.47 | laurus | It used to mount at /media/disk . Is there a way to make it do so again? |
| 03:19.22 | doublehp | stew: do i have to update to dhcp3 ? |
| 03:19.52 | MrFrood | doublehp: see http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54320 |
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| 03:20.30 | stew | doublehp: no, I was half expecting you to say "oh it works when I edit the right file!" or something |
| 03:20.39 | stew | doublehp: is the resolvconf package installed? |
| 03:20.47 | doublehp | MrFrood: no, in fact my /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf deeply sux; as soon as i add an ipv6 server, it blows up |
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| 03:21.17 | doublehp | stew: see above; it works when i remove my IPv6 servers |
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| 03:21.19 | froggyman | is it possible to control my laptops fans? |
| 03:22.12 | stew | froggyman: what kind of laptop? |
| 03:22.35 | froggyman | stew, HP dv6 |
| 03:23.25 | hellyeah | where is damn boot.img.gz file |
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| 03:24.32 | wobblyonions | anyone here able to help with flowscan etc at all on a debian install, mainly looking for some help with the collector side of things |
| 03:24.45 | doublehp | stew: yes, it did it :) |
| 03:25.06 | stew | hellyeah: typically in a hd-media directory |
| 03:27.20 | doublehp | how do i make tap-click work for my Alps touchpad ? |
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| 03:29.08 | hellyeah | http://ftp.acc.umu.se/ |
| 03:29.20 | hellyeah | where is hd media |
| 03:29.22 | hellyeah | :XD |
| 03:30.34 | laurus | How do I tell which of the things in /dev is my external USB drive? |
| 03:30.39 | amphi | doublehp: you can probably use xinput |
| 03:30.46 | doublehp | laurus: /var/log/messages |
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| 03:31.04 | doublehp | amphi: can you expand ? |
| 03:31.06 | laurus | doublehp, ah, thanks! :) |
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| 03:31.40 | doublehp | laurus: i have a permanent tail of messages in some console; tty12 for console, and some term in X |
| 03:32.43 | laurus | doublehp, cool |
| 03:32.49 | laurus | I just found that df works as well :P |
| 03:33.03 | amphi | doublehp: xinput list |
| 03:33.38 | amphi | doublehp: then 'xinput list-props <device>' to see if it has any property that looks like what you want |
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| 03:34.23 | amphi | and then 'xinput set-prop <device> <property> <value[s]>' |
| 03:34.38 | amphi | assuming you find any relevant properties |
| 03:34.49 | stew | hellyeah: for which arch? |
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| 03:35.15 | hellyeah | i found file |
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| 03:37.22 | amphi | doublehp: any luck? |
| 03:37.43 | doublehp | amphi: i don't understand the syntax |
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| 03:38.47 | amphi | doublehp: you could pastebin the output of 'xinput list-props <device>' perhaps |
| 03:39.14 | amphi | doublehp: I don't have a trackpad though |
| 03:39.55 | hellyeah | i download boot.img |
| 03:40.04 | amphi | doublehp: is there something like 'tap to click timeout'? if so, setting that to a non-zero value might be enough |
| 03:40.11 | hellyeah | if i put boot.img file and debian iso file into usb |
| 03:40.16 | hellyeah | installer works ? |
| 03:40.17 | doublehp | amphi: http://pastebin.com/3MdmMUGt |
| 03:41.01 | amphi | hellyeah: you need to dd the .img file to the usb device, and then copy the iso file to it |
| 03:41.31 | hellyeah | i have img file and dd |
| 03:41.41 | hellyeah | what is the command for dd to write |
| 03:41.45 | hellyeah | mg file to usb |
| 03:42.03 | amphi | doublehp: that's not it; do 'xinput list-props 11' |
| 03:42.19 | amphi | hellyeah: this is windows? |
| 03:42.35 | hellyeah | win7 |
| 03:42.36 | amphi | doublehp: you can refer to the device by id or by name |
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| 03:43.10 | amphi | doublehp: so 'xinput list-props "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"' should give the same output |
| 03:43.21 | doublehp | amphi: http://pastebin.com/wyYQbG6H |
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| 03:44.15 | amphi | doublehp: ouf, too many properties ;) |
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| 03:44.19 | CodexAthena | Linux is for mentally retarded chimpanzees who ate too many lead paint chips as babies |
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| 03:46.09 | doublehp | amphi: there are taps there ... |
| 03:46.19 | amphi | doublehp: yes, I see them |
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| 03:47.25 | hellyeah | i will come back |
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| 03:47.35 | amphi | doublehp: line 30 might be relevant |
| 03:48.13 | prudhvi | Hi, how do i compile a kernel in Debian?. I am running it inside virtualbox. i would like to decrease the HZ value |
| 03:48.27 | hellyeah | amphi: can i take help from you |
| 03:49.06 | amphi | hellyeah: I can't help you with dd for windows, I'm afraid |
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| 03:49.25 | doublehp | amphi: and it should be ??? |
| 03:49.44 | hellyeah | amphi: nom problem thanks |
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| 03:50.12 | doublehp | hellyeah: can you remind me your issue ? |
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| 03:50.32 | hellyeah | sure |
| 03:50.37 | Tania_ | hello |
| 03:51.08 | amphi | doublehp: you could try 'xinput set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad" "Synaptics Tap Action" 1 0 0 0 0 0 0' perhaps, but I guess |
| 03:51.27 | Tania_ | what do you guys think about the wikileaks case? |
| 03:51.37 | amphi | doublehp: he needs to dd a boot.img onto a usb device, under windows |
| 03:51.43 | abrotman | Tania_: #debian-offtopic |
| 03:52.19 | hellyeah | i used unetbootin, universal usb installer when i click load component from cd debian installer warn me with cd rom drive was not detected if i dont use load component from cd i didnt see partition hard disk install base system select package |
| 03:52.22 | amphi | doublehp: if it doesn't work, you can revert it easily enough |
| 03:52.24 | Tania_ | thanks |
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| 03:52.37 | doublehp | amphi: xev says nothing happens |
| 03:52.47 | abrotman | hellyeah: you still haven't used the instructions from the manual? |
| 03:53.06 | amphi | doublehp: has the property changed when you list properties for the device? |
| 03:53.15 | hellyeah | abrotman: doublehp wants me to tell the issue |
| 03:53.23 | dvs | abrotman: well, he's doing it from windows. |
| 03:53.32 | abrotman | why? |
| 03:53.37 | doublehp | amphi: yes |
| 03:53.38 | dvs | dunno |
| 03:53.43 | abrotman | wait .. i don't want to know |
| 03:53.47 | hellyeah | amphi: i dont understand manual you say |
| 03:53.49 | abrotman | wants to stay innocent :) |
| 03:53.50 | dvs | probably not |
| 03:53.52 | hellyeah | where is that menual |
| 03:53.56 | hellyeah | sorry abrotman |
| 03:54.36 | amphi | doublehp: so, bad guess then - better revert it before the magic smoke gets out |
| 03:55.35 | doublehp | amphi: no effect at all |
| 03:56.08 | hellyeah | i guess i should give up desire of installing debian |
| 03:57.05 | doublehp | hellyeah: or just try installing the normal way, with a CD |
| 03:57.20 | tux33 | hi, my apache "cannot load mcrypt extension" .. what i have to do after install? |
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| 03:57.26 | doublehp | hellyeah: the problem is not debian; the problem is you trying to create a bootable USB stick under Windows |
| 03:57.41 | hellyeah | doublehp: |
| 03:57.54 | oldtopman | hellyeah: try a bootable linux cd to create the linux thumb drive |
| 03:57.57 | hellyeah | you mean problem is damn windows |
| 03:58.05 | oldtopman | yessir |
| 03:58.21 | hellyeah | may be most probably |
| 03:58.27 | hellyeah | i am not stupid i guess |
| 03:58.28 | hellyeah | :D |
| 03:58.31 | doublehp | http://pastebin.com/vpjexsGi http://pastebin.com/AVUUgFTD why would the second script even try to list the content of /opt/doublehp/lost+found on server ? |
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| 03:58.58 | hellyeah | because i try fedora arch ubuntu debian all os gsves ssmilar error |
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| 03:59.06 | oldtopman | Here is an artice I wrote (against stupid windows) http://sites.google.com/site/toohalves/dev/oldtopman-1/thecaseagainstwindowspart1 |
| 03:59.11 | doublehp | hellyeah: creating bootable devices is always hell; doing it under windows is a dream |
| 03:59.13 | hellyeah | all is prepared in windows usb installer program |
| 03:59.33 | hellyeah | doublehp: the point i didnt understand |
| 03:59.46 | hellyeah | i always am able make bootable usb |
| 04:00.03 | hellyeah | i did it 10 times succesfully may be more |
| 04:00.14 | oldtopman | But due to my inability to configure apt-get, I like slackware the best. It is not user friendly. If you decide to slackware, read up on compiling packages. |
| 04:00.31 | hellyeah | with universal usb installer unetboiotin but this time i am not able to do it |
| 04:00.38 | amphi | doublehp: dunno, you must search the tubes - but xinput should be the way to do it |
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| 04:00.59 | doublehp | oldtopman: a friend was sold a server with Windows in; he refused to validate the license; the license rejection told him to give back the machine to provider (Dell); Dell refused to refund. Now, he has a Windows from which he refused the license, and have to keep it. He now can legally disassemble Windows :) |
| 04:01.20 | doublehp | amphi: forums say to use xorg.conf |
| 04:01.36 | oldtopman | Nice. |
| 04:01.51 | amphi | seems rather old-fashioned⦠|
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| 04:02.31 | doublehp | amphi: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Synaptics_Touchpad recent update |
| 04:02.35 | tux33 | my apache "cannot load mcrypt extension" .. what i have to do in php.ini? |
| 04:02.51 | dissidentss | can someone help me investigate this? http://pastie.org/private/7kglwzeawww9o6i0zqtqjw |
| 04:02.57 | dissidentss | bash seems to basically refuse that the file exists |
| 04:03.01 | doublehp | tux33: #apache |
| 04:03.04 | dissidentss | I can move it around and copy it and see it with ls though |
| 04:03.05 | dissidentss | the hell |
| 04:03.21 | doublehp | dissidentss: which file ? |
| 04:03.26 | stew | dissidentss: try: bash -x ./abc |
| 04:03.35 | doublehp | dissidentss: try stat file |
| 04:03.36 | dissidentss | abc: abc: cannot execute binary file |
| 04:03.47 | doublehp | dissidentss: you deserve a kick |
| 04:03.56 | stew | dissidentss: try "ldd ./abc" |
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| 04:03.59 | oldtopman | doublehp: Are you referring to Section 8? |
| 04:04.04 | tux33 | doublehp ? |
| 04:04.09 | dissidentss | http://pastie.org/private/7injmn54vryyohdzi8qzg |
| 04:04.31 | dissidentss | what did I say wrong? |
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| 04:04.49 | amphi | doublehp: looks like synclient may be what you want, although it seems stupid to need a special tool |
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| 04:05.12 | oldtopman | starting my comment with doublehp causes my post to show up in red on his IRC. |
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| 04:06.33 | doublehp | dissidentss: pwd . if you have any link in your path, in some case, files can't be run. |
| 04:06.47 | oldtopman | dissidentss: if you try to run a 64bits program on 32bits (or vice versa, you will get this (non) error. Type "file abc" and post the output. |
| 04:07.09 | amphi | oldtopman: if you start a comment with 'amphi', it will show up yellow here ;) |
| 04:07.14 | dissidentss | abc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
| 04:07.18 | doublehp | dissidentss: can not execute is an easy one: the file may be stored on a partition with noexec |
| 04:07.19 | dissidentss | oops didn't mean to /me |
| 04:07.39 | oldtopman | dissidentss: are you 64bits? |
| 04:07.40 | dissidentss | doublehp: other binaries on this partition execute :( |
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| 04:07.59 | dissidentss | yeah I'm on 64 bit |
| 04:08.03 | stew | dissidentss: does ldd show missing shared libraries? |
| 04:08.04 | doublehp | dissidentss: then, file and ldd may help ; where does the bin come from ? |
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| 04:08.20 | dissidentss | # ldd abc |
| 04:08.21 | dissidentss | not a dynamic executable |
| 04:08.27 | dissidentss | does this mean it's corrupted? |
| 04:08.29 | oldtopman | then like I stated earlier, 32bits programs don't run on 64bits, leading to this error. |
| 04:08.35 | doublehp | dissidentss: for security reasons, many bons may REFUSE to run with too much permissions ... try 0700 |
| 04:08.46 | stew | doublehp: its an unknown chmod 777 binary he's running as root, of course |
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| 04:08.54 | oldtopman | ...Unless you have a multilib system... |
| 04:09.02 | doublehp | dissidentss: shell scripts are not dynamicly executable either ... |
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| 04:09.20 | oldtopman | file tells you whether the file is 32 or 64 bits |
| 04:09.31 | stew | "abc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable," |
| 04:09.56 | oldtopman | yeah I'm on 64 bit |
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| 04:10.04 | doublehp | multilib should do !!! |
| 04:10.04 | oldtopman | So that is why it wont run |
| 04:10.18 | stew | oldtopman: why? |
| 04:10.42 | oldtopman | 32bits apps look for 32bits dependencies same with 64bits |
| 04:11.03 | dissidentss | you guys are right |
| 04:11.03 | dissidentss | http://pastie.org/private/yfm6ioy7cm2w9sdvkrba7a |
| 04:11.06 | stew | oldtopman: but wait, its not dynamicly linked, is it? |
| 04:11.07 | oldtopman | if you run 32 bit apps on 64 bits, the 32bits dependencies don't exist. |
| 04:11.37 | oldtopman | HAs nothing to do with links |
| 04:11.41 | doublehp | multilib should fix that !!! |
| 04:11.47 | dissidentss | apt-get install lib32gcc1 |
| 04:11.53 | stew | oldtopman: does "not a dynamic executable" mean it is statically linked and not dynamically linked? |
| 04:11.53 | dissidentss | ? |
| 04:11.55 | oldtopman | Happens all th etime with me having a 64bits slackware install. |
| 04:12.25 | dissidentss | it works after installing |
| 04:12.27 | dissidentss | lib32gcc1 |
| 04:12.38 | doublehp | http://pastebin.com/vpjexsGi http://pastebin.com/AVUUgFTD why would the second script even try to list the content of /opt/doublehp/lost+found on server ? |
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| 04:14.26 | stew | dissidentss: out of curiosity, does "ldd ./abc" give different output now that it works? |
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| 04:15.34 | dissidentss | indeed stew, here: http://pastie.org/private/xx2qluyrlgz7ajzwlgmyja |
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| 04:17.35 | stew | aha, so file is right that it is dynamically linked, but without more libs, ld can't figure it out so says "not dynamic" |
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| 04:20.42 | austin987 | can someone ban the spammer please? |
| 04:20.50 | Touchstone | Yes, that, please. |
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| 04:22.04 | OpenMike | FLEESH! TOMEK! |
| 04:22.38 | froggyman | are there any ops in here? |
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| 04:23.30 | froggyman | doesn't think that ChanServ will kick+ban him |
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| 04:25.34 | austin987 | ty |
| 04:25.37 | MrFrood | how come nobody ever floods the gopher channel like that? |
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| 04:26.31 | froggyman | wonders what would happen if you were to join #MATH |
| 04:27.16 | amphi | you'd start shouting helplessly? |
| 04:27.32 | froggyman | I was thinking that you would probably get klined from it |
| 04:28.53 | amphi | seems a little harsh |
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| 04:29.41 | froggyman | well there some channels that you get klined by joining |
| 04:29.47 | stew | please move this to ##comment-on-spam or #debian-offtopic |
| 04:30.25 | amphi | ##comment-on-spam exists? heh |
| 04:31.04 | froggyman | suspects that that is a question for ##comment-on-spam |
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| 04:48.37 | frewsxcv | is there a good font viewer for linux? |
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| 04:49.32 | dragonfly | font viewer? like to preview the fonts currently installed on your system? |
| 04:50.18 | frewsxcv | dragonfly: yes |
| 04:50.36 | dragonfly | not sure offhand -- I'll check google :) |
| 04:51.12 | frewsxcv | fontmatrix looks nice but has qt dependencies :-/ |
| 04:51.40 | dragonfly | gfontview? |
| 04:52.25 | frewsxcv | dragonfly: too bad it's not inte repos :-/ |
| 04:52.40 | dragonfly | hmmm -- well, I just found this page: http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts/Defoma |
| 04:53.36 | dragonfly | you may also find: http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts/ to be interesting |
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| 04:59.29 | tux33 | i have apache errors pls can someone help me http://pastebin.com/qEgHQMkT |
| 05:01.06 | dragonfly | tux33, I'll take a look, give me a min |
| 05:01.21 | tux33 | cool thx |
| 05:01.28 | Bushmills | nautilus? enter fonts: as resource address. |
| 05:03.15 | dragonfly | frewsxcv, Bushmills just had a suggestion for you :) |
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| 05:04.22 | dragonfly | tux33, do you have a virtualhost named [virtualhost *:80] or is it just [virtualhost *]? |
| 05:04.58 | frewsxcv | Bushmills: what is the suggestion. nautilus?j |
| 05:05.14 | frewsxcv | how do i find out what my font path is |
| 05:07.08 | dragonfly | tux33, also, check your ports.conf |
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| 05:07.58 | dragonfly | tux33, the other thing I see from that error message is where are you telling it what addresses to bind to? I'm looking in my configs right now to try and see what that should look like |
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| 05:09.24 | tux33 | dragonfly i will post a new pastpin |
| 05:09.30 | tux33 | thx |
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| 05:11.03 | frewsxcv | i'm trying to find which fonts i can specify for rxvt. that huge string like inconsolata-medium-*-*-*-*-whatever .... how do i obtain this? |
| 05:13.22 | karlpinc | frewsxcv: That X resource font stuff is ugly. What are you really trying to do? |
| 05:13.36 | frewsxcv | karlpinc: specify a font to use with rxvt |
| 05:13.37 | karlpinc | frewsxcv: Why do you want another font? |
| 05:13.49 | frewsxcv | karlpinc: the default rxvt font is ugly |
| 05:14.12 | karlpinc | frewsxcv: Ok. (I always just choose another xterm-like program.) |
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| 05:14.24 | frewsxcv | karlpinc: like? |
| 05:14.33 | frewsxcv | karlpinc: and that is avoiding my problem |
| 05:14.41 | _genuser_ | hey ppl |
| 05:15.15 | dragonfly | hi _genuser_ |
| 05:15.24 | _genuser_ | hey dragonfly |
| 05:16.00 | karlpinc | frewsxcv: Right. I use xterm itself, or the gnome or kde one. I forget. |
| 05:16.03 | dragonfly | what's up? |
| 05:16.20 | karlpinc | frewsxcv: You could try using the locate program to find the fonts. |
| 05:16.34 | karlpinc | frewsxcv: Or apt-file. |
| 05:16.38 | dragonfly | frewsxcv, I've always thought emacs was pretty cool, but I don't use it much -- I generally stick to gnome-terminal |
| 05:17.09 | frewsxcv | karlpinc: how do i find what the other parts of the string are. inconsolata-medium-what-what-what-what |
| 05:17.37 | frewsxcv | dragonfly: wayyy too bulky for me. and emacs is for satan worshipers |
| 05:18.53 | dragonfly | frewsxcv, I can generally be found running a gnome desktop so gnome-terminal isn't much in the way of extra bulk and is the logical choice :) for more lightweight applications i would probably just choose xterm |
| 05:19.13 | dragonfly | what is the connection between emacs and satan? |
| 05:19.26 | frewsxcv | dragonfly: well what font do you use with xterm? |
| 05:19.39 | _genuser_ | man flash is really crapping out. after a little while of using flash, the computer just starts getting really slow. |
| 05:19.50 | _genuser_ | but only happens on hulu. |
| 05:19.50 | frewsxcv | no longer uses Flash |
| 05:19.54 | karlpinc | frewsxcv: It's somewhere in the X docs. Or try aptitude search ~iX | grep font |
| 05:19.54 | _genuser_ | not on youtube. |
| 05:20.10 | _genuser_ | does frewsxcv not use youtube? |
| 05:20.21 | frewsxcv | _genuser_: i use HTML5 with youtube |
| 05:20.30 | _genuser_ | html5? |
| 05:20.42 | _genuser_ | if can play youtube videos? |
| 05:20.43 | frewsxcv | http://youtube.com/html5 |
| 05:20.47 | frewsxcv | i think that link still works |
| 05:21.00 | karlpinc | frewsxcv: HTML5 sounds sane. What browser do you install to get that? |
| 05:21.20 | karlpinc | frewsxcv: Firefox beta? |
| 05:21.30 | _genuser_ | so wait, html5 has a builtin vid player? |
| 05:21.31 | frewsxcv | karlpinc: chrom[e/ium] and firefox 4 (beta/nightly) should work |
| 05:21.47 | frewsxcv | html5 supports the <video> tag with WebM |
| 05:22.17 | _genuser_ | html5 supports the video tag. ok then what? |
| 05:22.23 | _genuser_ | the browser implements the video player? |
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| 05:22.27 | frewsxcv | youtube takes use of the <vidoe> tag |
| 05:22.30 | sussudio | grr |
| 05:22.31 | frewsxcv | _genuser_: yes |
| 05:22.35 | _genuser_ | that's really cool. |
| 05:22.42 | karlpinc | _genuser_: He said, firefox 4 and chrome* |
| 05:22.45 | _genuser_ | so the need for flash and etc goes away. |
| 05:23.02 | frewsxcv | opera might support webm too |
| 05:23.04 | _genuser_ | karlpinc: he sure did. but I was just understanding the new arch. |
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| 05:23.18 | karlpinc | _genuser_: If everybody takes flash off their site and uses html5. Not likely. |
| 05:23.23 | _genuser_ | so iceweasel no support teh htmlz5? |
| 05:23.35 | frewsxcv | _genuser_: if there is a beta or nightly...maybe |
| 05:23.46 | _genuser_ | karlpinc: I was just asking how the html5 is setup. |
| 05:23.53 | _genuser_ | karlpinc: don't care about who uses what. |
| 05:24.09 | _genuser_ | frewsxcv: so hulu and such can't be helped, eh? |
| 05:24.16 | frewsxcv | firefox/iceweasel already support HTML5 video, just not the webm codec |
| 05:24.22 | frewsxcv | _genuser_: beats me, never used it |
| 05:24.55 | _genuser_ | frewsxcv: ok, so is ff in debian repos? or does it have to be installed from fforg? |
| 05:25.44 | frewsxcv | _genuser_: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ |
| 05:25.45 | nevyn | _genuser_: in debian firefox is spelt iceweasel |
| 05:25.50 | frewsxcv | download a nightly release |
| 05:25.54 | frewsxcv | or th e beta |
| 05:26.19 | _genuser_ | nevyn: yeah I knew that, but I though tit's the special branded version. so it might be a little behind. |
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| 05:28.27 | _genuser_ | wonder if IE will support html5 vid tag. |
| 05:29.33 | frewsxcv | IE9 does, but not with the WebM codec out of the box |
| 05:29.54 | _genuser_ | if all browsers support it, the video thing with flash could finally be solved. |
| 05:30.22 | _genuser_ | hopefully, the overall silverlight/flash thing can be addressed in html too. |
| 05:30.43 | dragonfly | has never even installed silverlight |
| 05:31.44 | _genuser_ | I haven't installed it in a while. |
| 05:31.57 | _genuser_ | but if we must deal with either or, then silverlight shoudl be better |
| 05:32.07 | _genuser_ | anything adobe takes forever to install. and they insist on installing extra junk. |
| 05:32.31 | _genuser_ | only adobe can make a pdf reader that need 20,000 Gigs on disk and take 2 years to install. |
| 05:32.56 | dragonfly | yeah, I always seem to end up spending extra time finding a way to work around their damn download manager -- that and making sure to uncheck the google toolbar they want to include |
| 05:33.31 | _genuser_ | lol, I didn't think google would stoop to that point to make people bundle their toolbar with the package. |
| 05:34.27 | dragonfly | they don't "make" them, but they pay $ for every so many installs or times people use it or something |
| 05:34.37 | dragonfly | tux33, how's the apache workin? |
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| 05:34.57 | _genuser_ | lol, just like those gain or doubleclick products. |
| 05:35.02 | _genuser_ | or yhoo toolbr |
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| 05:35.35 | _genuser_ | finally a reason for html5 to be cool. |
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| 05:37.37 | onoez_omg | fixing my ugly rc script, will the line at the top of the script do the trick and show me some logs after startup? |
| 05:37.39 | onoez_omg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:42.06 | _genuser_ | so iceweasel and ff can't run SxS? |
| 05:43.27 | frewsxcv | _genuser_: SxS? |
| 05:49.18 | _genuser_ | frewsxcv: side by side |
| 05:50.14 | frewsxcv | _genuser_: not they can't since they're the same proces |
| 05:50.36 | _genuser_ | frewsxcv: right, ff picked up the iceweasel tabs. nice |
| 05:51.41 | frewsxcv | xfontsel that's what the program is called |
| 05:54.27 | tux33 | dragonfly apache is running on port 80 but not 443 and no vhost just the default dir |
| 05:55.04 | dragonfly | tux33, do you have anything in sites-enabled? |
| 05:55.47 | doublehp | is /etc/rc.conf a normal debian file ? |
| 05:56.48 | SeanInSeattle | Hey all. I'm wondering how to install from usb key. I'm doing this while running Ubuntu on my laptop. Has anyone done this before? |
| 05:57.08 | _genuser_ | SeanInSeattle: just did that two days ago. |
| 05:57.20 | dragonfly | !usb |
| 05:57.21 | dpkg | [usb] (Universal Serial Bus) A technology that has replaced the way that some peripheral devices connect to a computer. It is much faster than serial and parallel communications. It is also much more flexible: many devices can be connected to simultaneously. USB 3.0 is supported by the Linux kernel since 2.6.31. http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html http://www.linux-usb.org/ See also <usb install>, <usbreset>. |
| 05:57.21 | SeanInSeattle | I've already read through here: http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb, but I seem do be doing something wrong. |
| 05:57.30 | dragonfly | !usb install |
| 05:57.30 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
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| 05:58.55 | tux33 | is this a AMD kernel ? uname -a Linux mx 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 01:53:57 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 05:59.54 | dragonfly | tux33, that is an x86 kernel -- note the end where it says -2-686 and also i686 GNU/Linux |
| 05:59.54 | SeanInSeattle | _genuser_: when I run the command "sudo zcat ~/debian/initrd.gz > /dev/sda" it comes back with an error saying "Permission denied". |
| 06:00.32 | tux33 | dragonfly can i change this to a amd kernel? |
| 06:00.46 | tux33 | or do i have to install debian new |
| 06:00.58 | dragonfly | what would you hope to gain by doing that? |
| 06:00.58 | _genuser_ | SeanInSeattle: it's 'coz you're using ubuntu and it's got gnome or kde auto mounting the stick. |
| 06:01.39 | dragonfly | SeanInSeattle, just extrapolating on what _genuser_ just provided -- try umount /dev/sda and then immedately follow it with that command you posted |
| 06:01.40 | _genuser_ | SeanInSeattle: boot in rescue mode, and login at prompt, then zcat the img file to /dev/sdb or whatever. |
| 06:02.02 | _genuser_ | dragonfly: on my kde it wasn't even showing in output of mount but still wouldn't allow it. |
| 06:02.24 | dragonfly | were you root or user? |
| 06:02.38 | dragonfly | try sudo su before that command :) |
| 06:03.10 | _genuser_ | dragonfly: I did sudo umount and all that. it wouldn't allow it. I was running as user tho. |
| 06:03.49 | SeanInSeattle | Hmm... su worked.... |
| 06:04.08 | _genuser_ | meh, I booted in resuce mode, fixed it, copied over the netinst. then rebooted again. |
| 06:04.14 | _genuser_ | interesting with the su thingie. |
| 06:04.19 | dragonfly | lol, more than one way to get things done :) |
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| 06:05.20 | _genuser_ | skin that cat lol |
| 06:05.30 | dragonfly | yep |
| 06:05.36 | hid3 | Hello everyone. I have a LAN and 2 ISPs connected to my debian router. There is one internal ip address (192.168.3.13, it has a known permanent MAC too) which I want to route through my 2nd ISP (the 1st one the the defaultroute). I have IP rules ste so both ISPs have their rules and default GWs defined. Any ideas how can I force that IP to be routed through ISP2? I tried with fwmark, it works nice but fwmark consumes a bit of CPU power. I believe |
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| 06:06.16 | tux33 | i have a wrong kernel what i can do? how do i change it? |
| 06:06.47 | _genuser_ | wrong version? or wrong arch? |
| 06:07.01 | dragonfly | tux33, if it were just a version difference I would say to install from the repos -- since it's a different arch I don't think that will work, but someone else might know better than I |
| 06:07.07 | tux33 | wrong arch |
| 06:07.36 | tux33 | not a amd one |
| 06:07.45 | dragonfly | tux33, I'm pretty sure you can use an x86 kernel on an amd64 chip |
| 06:07.54 | tux33 | but its a amd64 system |
| 06:08.25 | dragonfly | the difference is simply that x86 is 32 bit and amd64 is 64 bit and those same ones are for both intel and amd manufactured chips |
| 06:08.25 | tux33 | dragonfly how do i change the kernel? |
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| 06:09.27 | dragonfly | I don't know what the "proper" procedure would be, but if I were going to change from x86 to amd64 kernels I would do a backup of all data and modified configs and then download the netinstall cd for the architecture I wanted and do a reinstall |
| 06:11.55 | tux33 | ok thx |
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| 06:12.18 | tux33 | maybe this is why RTL8139D network card is not working? |
| 06:12.50 | hid3 | Any ideas about the 2 ISP dilemma? |
| 06:12.51 | dragonfly | i would say probably not likely tux33 |
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| 06:13.01 | tux33 | thx |
| 06:13.05 | dragonfly | hid3, I can barely afford to have 1 :) |
| 06:13.35 | hid3 | dragonfly: that's not a problem. But maybe you just happen to know a solution for the problem descriped? ;-) |
| 06:14.08 | dragonfly | tux33, I haven't read these yet, but you may want to check http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/12/msg00018.html and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508120 |
| 06:14.13 | Arch_ | I have iceweasel running with ipv6 enabled, some sites won't load for some reason. I disable it, the sites will load. I have a virtualmachine running windows7 with firefox and ipv6 on, pages load. What do I have to do to make it work on debian without having to disable ipv6 in iceweasel? |
| 06:14.36 | tux33 | thx |
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| 06:15.23 | dragonfly | hid3, sorry I don't -- but maybe I can ask a couple questions to help you troubleshoot -- help me understand what you are trying to do -- 2 ISPs, how many network cards?, how many LANs or LAN IPs? |
| 06:15.50 | _genuser_ | weird, my irssi has stopped scrolling on it's own |
| 06:16.10 | _genuser_ | can someone help me troubleshoot that? |
| 06:16.13 | _genuser_ | ok j/k. |
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| 06:17.05 | hid3 | dragonfly: nevermind. Looks like I'm facing a solution on lartc.org. I just need to read the docs there! |
| 06:17.33 | dragonfly | ok |
| 06:19.22 | dragonfly | here's another one for ya tux33 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=21933&start=0 |
| 06:22.23 | tux33 | thx |
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| 06:39.11 | Angel-SL | !squeeze |
| 06:39.11 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. Ask me about <wwsr> for recent updates and see also <testing> <squeeze udev> <squeeze kernel> <lenny->squeeze> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze . The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
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| 06:47.28 | onoez_omg | fixing my ugly rc script, will the line at the top of the script do the trick and show me some logs after startup? |
| 06:47.31 | onoez_omg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:52.48 | nsadmin | how can I run ruby on rails apps on some debian-provided web server? |
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| 06:54.31 | dragonfly | nsadmin, apt-cache search rails |
| 06:58.49 | nsadmin | dragonfly: specifically... if I generate a new, skeletal rails app which all it does is say "welcome aboard" |
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| 06:59.37 | dragonfly | is this a server that you have or one that you are "renting" like a hosted solution from a company like hostgator or someone |
| 06:59.53 | nsadmin | where do I move the files to, how do I configure apache to be able to run a rails, how do I start the apache with rails? |
| 07:00.32 | nsadmin | right now just doing "hello rails world", with several web servers on my local box. starting with apache |
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| 07:00.36 | cantido | nsadmin: you need modrails or phusionpassenger as its now called |
| 07:00.45 | cantido | its modrails in stable IIRC |
| 07:01.04 | nsadmin | so apache2 needs modrails |
| 07:01.35 | cantido | yes, what you do to install a rails application after that I dont know.. I've only ever configured that for someone else |
| 07:01.48 | nsadmin | good enough... I'll work that thru |
| 07:02.11 | nsadmin | would there be docs for after getting the web server ready? |
| 07:02.43 | cantido | I think in modrails there are docs, or the phusionpassenger page |
| 07:02.43 | nsadmin | I guess that part would be between rails and apache |
| 07:03.01 | nsadmin | ok good enough, thanks |
| 07:03.04 | cantido | prepare your eyes for web 2.0 silly colours before you visit there though |
| 07:03.21 | nsadmin | you mean that brown with black lines? |
| 07:03.33 | cantido | pink and green iirc |
| 07:03.43 | cantido | and phusionpassenger? what a stupid name |
| 07:03.50 | nsadmin | ahh, sounds feminine to me :) |
| 07:04.14 | nsadmin | I'm given to understand passenger and rack are the things that connect to the server |
| 07:04.48 | nsadmin | cantido: as far as you know, was your client able to proceed after you set things up for him? |
| 07:05.13 | cantido | passenger (modrails) as far as I can tell is creates a link between apache and a process running the app.. like you might do with apache and tomcat |
| 07:05.16 | cantido | nsadmin: yep |
| 07:05.28 | cantido | the gems situation in debian annoys ruby people though |
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| 07:05.48 | cantido | "you mean I cant just install any version I like on a production server?" |
| 07:06.04 | nsadmin | oh, you mean the s/gems situation/how gems plain don't work in debian/? :) |
| 07:06.24 | nsadmin | no worries there... I build my own ruby thankyouverymuch... |
| 07:06.29 | cantido | well, gems is stopped from doing its own package management |
| 07:06.38 | cantido | which is sane if you want security support etc |
| 07:07.10 | nsadmin | so at that point you have to "install gems" by installing debs? |
| 07:07.44 | cantido | as far as I can tell |
| 07:08.05 | cantido | ruby devs are used to just clumping together loads of bits from all over the place though |
| 07:08.21 | cantido | so waiting 6 months for a gem to appear in debian doesnt fit |
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| 07:10.49 | nsadmin | right, and I would suppose many people could think "debian does something that blocks me" and therefore goes with self-build |
| 07:11.15 | nsadmin | the 6-month thing, you're right, that makes no sense whatsoever |
| 07:11.48 | nsadmin | is nginx a web server? |
| 07:11.55 | cantido | well, it makes sense if you want a well support environment |
| 07:12.10 | cantido | supported |
| 07:12.39 | nsadmin | you have two -serial- layers of support... |
| 07:13.16 | nsadmin | which could mean that if either support structure restricts access, the whole thing does |
| 07:13.27 | nsadmin | so it |
| 07:13.34 | nsadmin | is worse than a single layer |
| 07:13.55 | cantido | I put ruby apps inside lxc containers |
| 07:14.19 | nsadmin | you have a lot of people saying "I thought debian would help me do things" |
| 07:14.37 | cantido | oh there's an "enterprise" build of passenger.. that has extra fairy dust or something |
| 07:14.59 | nsadmin | beam it up scotty... |
| 07:15.13 | cantido | nsadmin: well, it's "agile" developement mentality vs having something that works and stays working |
| 07:15.46 | nsadmin | with "vs" being the operative word unfortunately |
| 07:16.31 | cantido | well, the ruby dev I worked with was a total arse.. and it seems to be a trend over in that camp |
| 07:16.56 | nsadmin | but as you said before, he could do things |
| 07:17.02 | cantido | I was being argued at for about 2 hours about debians policy on gems as if I had decided said policy |
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| 07:17.27 | cantido | nsadmin: yes, the modrails in stable works well enough.. and you can use it with a local ruby install |
| 07:17.32 | nsadmin | don't let -this- conversation give you that impression :) |
| 07:17.58 | nsadmin | perfect... |
| 07:18.24 | cantido | you would have thought though, if its going to be an enterprise application environment.. why are deps global? |
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| 07:18.44 | cantido | why not include them with the application. so that the application has exactly what it requires |
| 07:19.30 | cantido | multiple versions of libraries in the same application server... |
| 07:19.35 | nsadmin | well at this point you have multiple virtual machines as the unit of dependency reach of influence |
| 07:20.28 | nsadmin | and said multiple lib versions could be in ram simultaneously |
| 07:21.01 | cantido | nsadmin: well, you don't need vm's if you have a proper application server |
| 07:21.36 | nsadmin | if debian dependencies would only support that. by having deps not be so global... |
| 07:22.18 | nsadmin | so in that sense, debian packaging/policy/archives/debs don't fit that |
| 07:23.12 | cantido | nsadmin: yeah, but you're going to break out of debians package management as soon as you need a dep that isn't available.. why not just include them in the app |
| 07:24.00 | nsadmin | doesn't that still mean self-building? |
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| 07:24.19 | cantido | yep, I don't see a way around it really though |
| 07:24.50 | cantido | in a Java application server you have libs in your deployed app that is only in the classpath of that application |
| 07:25.17 | nsadmin | neither do I; I don't exactly see all the dds at once going "omg, what we've done all these years needs upgrading!" and coming up with somethign within 5 days |
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| 07:26.13 | nsadmin | in java, all libs are class libraries tho |
| 07:26.29 | cantido | gems in debian should be for pre-packaged apps basically |
| 07:26.31 | nsadmin | which themselves are encapsulations |
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| 07:27.02 | cantido | anything else you should be able to provide to the application via some local application-specific directory or something |
| 07:27.14 | cantido | not everything ruby is rails though |
| 07:27.22 | nsadmin | if you look at gitorious as an example, it includes the rails and all the active* stuff in its own source |
| 07:27.45 | nsadmin | yeah, I have a ruby script on my gw |
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| 07:29.58 | cantido | I don't have a twitter account or an iphone so I'm not cool enough to do ruby dev ;) |
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| 07:33.03 | srmaddox | How can i configure aptitude so I can install unstable (i.e. php 5.3) via aptitude? |
| 07:33.27 | srmaddox | (specifically, php-cgi package for 5.3.0 or 5.3.4 |
| 07:34.21 | cantido | srmaddox: what are you running at the moment? lenny? |
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| 07:36.05 | srmaddox | yes |
| 07:36.28 | cantido | you can't just install unstable packages into lenny |
| 07:36.38 | cantido | you either upgrade or install a backport |
| 07:36.52 | srmaddox | upgrade as in distro upgrade? |
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| 07:37.07 | cantido | yes, you probably want a backport though |
| 07:37.16 | srmaddox | Thats what i did last time but i forgot how |
| 07:37.53 | srmaddox | and i remember it being somewhat annoying |
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| 07:39.26 | cantido | any reason you need a newer PHP? |
| 07:39.33 | srmaddox | namespaces |
| 07:40.07 | srmaddox | There are a few other just nice-to-have's in there, but primarily namespaces |
| 07:41.07 | srmaddox | what exactly does upgrade do anyhow? (I dont pay enough attention to these things) |
| 07:41.16 | srmaddox | I mean i understand the concept but |
| 07:41.47 | srmaddox | as it applies to this situation, i wasnt aware that upgrading ever installed unstable |
| 07:41.58 | srmaddox | (ofc debian stable might as well be called obsolete) |
| 07:42.08 | cantido | when I mean upgrade I mean you have to upgrade everything to unstable.. which is not what you want in most cases |
| 07:42.18 | cantido | srmaddox: um, fix some bugs then? |
| 07:42.57 | srmaddox | no, I mean i never remember it ever actually upgrading a package, I always felt like nothing ever got added to debian-stable |
| 07:43.01 | dragonfly | cantido, can't you just add the additional repositories? I seem to remember doing that before and it worked -- i can see how it might create other problems though :S |
| 07:43.05 | srmaddox | not at least for years after the release |
| 07:43.22 | cantido | srmaddox: you can't add unstable packages to stable usually |
| 07:43.44 | srmaddox | I mean MySQL is one of those packages that just never gets any love from the debian-stable repo |
| 07:43.45 | cantido | the amount of libraries that the new package would want to install will mean you system will be mostly upgraded |
| 07:43.55 | cantido | srmaddox: and there are reasons for that |
| 07:44.16 | srmaddox | There're always reasons, doesn't mean they're good ones =p. |
| 07:44.27 | cantido | srmaddox: mysql in debian is at the version it is at for a reason (it's in the docs iirc) and stable doesnt change |
| 07:44.34 | cantido | that is the idea of stable(tm) |
| 07:44.44 | srmaddox | Fair enough |
| 07:44.57 | srmaddox | still, 5.1 doesn't deserve to need a backport. |
| 07:45.19 | dragonfly | srmaddox, it doesn't upgrade to newer versions -- just fixes holes in the version that's included |
| 07:45.21 | cantido | because the version that went into stable years ago should magically just upgrade? |
| 07:46.16 | srmaddox | no, but perhaps when you're talking about something that doesn't involve such significant upgrades, the newer version should be available without too much todo. |
| 07:46.23 | cantido | wonders how much crap they are going to add to php |
| 07:46.42 | cantido | srmaddox: thats called ... drum roll......... wait for it ... a backport! |
| 07:47.11 | srmaddox | well, you and I define "too much todo" differently. |
| 07:47.22 | srmaddox | What's the bots command for the backport factoid anyways |
| 07:47.25 | srmaddox | thats what im here for mainly |
| 07:47.33 | srmaddox | !backport |
| 07:47.34 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>, <volatile>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 07:48.06 | srmaddox | No, there was another factoid with some halfway decent docs. |
| 07:49.44 | dragonfly | !debian-backports |
| 07:49.45 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 07:50.01 | srmaddox | there we go, thank you kindly |
| 07:51.02 | dragonfly | no problem :) |
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| 07:51.35 | srmaddox | now heres a question |
| 07:51.42 | srmaddox | is there a way to apt-cache search backports? |
| 07:53.13 | dragonfly | I guess you could add the backports repositories and disable all your other ones -- run aptitude update and then apt-cache do your searching |
| 07:53.32 | dragonfly | ...just remember to re-enable the other repositories and aptitude update when you're done |
| 07:55.27 | srmaddox | Its still apparently 5.2.4 >.> |
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| 07:56.41 | cantido | maybe no one thinks the features in php 5.3 are worth the effort |
| 07:56.59 | srmaddox | well 5.3.1 is supposed to be in lenny-backports now |
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| 08:00.15 | Bop | so , squeeze is going to be the next stable release and wont receive any more updates apart of security , right ? |
| 08:03.58 | cantido | Bop: security updates for old-stable go on for a while after the new stable is release |
| 08:04.23 | Bop | i dont care for old, im talking about squeeze future |
| 08:04.44 | Bop | what will repleace squeeze ? |
| 08:06.04 | cantido | Bop: testing and unstable will start moving again after squeeze is released |
| 08:06.30 | Bop | what will be called the new testing ? |
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| 08:10.17 | dragonfly | Bop, I don't think they've announced that yet |
| 08:10.30 | Bop | ok |
| 08:10.38 | cantido | does the name really matter? |
| 08:10.55 | Bop | just to know what i need to upgrade to keep on testing tree |
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| 08:11.10 | dragonfly | cantido, only once it's announced and in progress so you can set your repositories :) |
| 08:11.15 | cantido | Bop: use testing |
| 08:11.22 | cantido | squeeze == testing |
| 08:11.59 | Bop | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free |
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| 08:12.10 | Bop | replace squeeze with testing will work ? |
| 08:12.16 | dragonfly | Bop, yes |
| 08:12.17 | cantido | yes |
| 08:12.18 | Bop | ok |
| 08:14.13 | KB1JWQ_ | Idiotic question for you. If I wanted to set a static IP address on a box that had historically been DHCP, what do I need to change besides /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 08:15.06 | dragonfly | KB1JWQ, just change that and then /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 08:16.03 | dragonfly | KB1JWQ_, just change that and then /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 08:16.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peps how do i get an app to open on a remote machine |
| 08:16.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | via ssh |
| 08:16.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | i set the loclahost right |
| 08:16.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | is it :0/0 or loclahost? |
| 08:17.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | localhost |
| 08:17.18 | Bop | u need to configure ssh for x11 forwarding |
| 08:17.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | not local remote.. |
| 08:18.48 | dragonfly | Eryn_1983_FL, my guess would be that you would want to tell it :0/0 or whatever point you want it to open on |
| 08:19.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | there is no remote session runing.. |
| 08:19.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | thats why |
| 08:19.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 08:19.40 | Bop | oO |
| 08:20.32 | Bop | so u want to run a graphical app in remote and u dont have X working ? |
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| 08:21.18 | djszapi | How can I grep for the package version coming from a repository ? apt-cache search foobar does not show it. |
| 08:22.21 | joltcan | djszapi: it shows you if you use "show" instead of search |
| 08:22.27 | dragonfly | apt-cache policy <package> or apt-cache show <package> |
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| 08:23.11 | djszapi | the two commands show different versions :-S |
| 08:24.13 | dragonfly | show and policy show different versions? |
| 08:24.38 | djszapi | Yup :-S |
| 08:24.56 | dragonfly | interesting....just for kicks -- aptitude update and then try again |
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| 08:42.29 | ttiicc | how would I create umask option for a link which Im creating |
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| 08:43.12 | djszapi | dragonfly: bash: aptitude: command not found |
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| 08:48.40 | i8degrees | ...hi there, guys! where would I look within a source deb of any given package as to see what compilation flags were used in building said package? example: ~src/mpd:$ ./configure --enable-ffmpeg |
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| 09:10.48 | Agiofws | hello |
| 09:10.59 | Agiofws | whats the package to install firefox in debian ? |
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| 09:11.29 | daemonkeeper | iceweasel |
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| 09:12.43 | ksk | i prefer the offical ff anyway |
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| 09:13.28 | Agiofws | why ? |
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| 09:13.38 | Upgreydd | hi all i have a question. I'm installing a debian netinstall and when i need to select my wlan drivers i can't find my Intel 5100AGN card, i can load drivers from USB but where are this drivers? i've downloaded drivers from here: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads and paste packed and unpacked files directly to USB, it won't work :/ any ideas? |
| 09:13.40 | Agiofws | from firefox webpage ? |
| 09:14.16 | ondrejk | hi, what tool do you use for remote administration for lot of servers? |
| 09:14.23 | daemonkeeper | ssh |
| 09:14.24 | Agiofws | ssh |
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| 09:14.39 | Upgreydd | ondrejk ssh with x'server if needed :) |
| 09:14.54 | Agiofws | whats the difference from the official version ? |
| 09:14.57 | daemonkeeper | X11 on servers? |
| 09:15.06 | Agiofws | vnc ? |
| 09:15.06 | daemonkeeper | There is virtually no difference, besides the label, some logos and the disabled update framework. So there are few reasons to use the official Firefox. |
| 09:15.36 | Upgreydd | daemonkeeper: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html |
| 09:15.39 | Agiofws | disabled update framework ? |
| 09:15.52 | Upgreydd | any idea for my problem? :/ |
| 09:16.19 | daemonkeeper | Yes. Firefox comes with an embedded framework to update itself, you might know. That is disabled in Debian because the preferred way to update Firefox is through APT there. |
| 09:16.30 | cantido | Agiofws: stops it from trying to update itself instead of via apt |
| 09:16.38 | Agiofws | apt-get -u iceweasel ? |
| 09:16.48 | daemonkeeper | Upgreydd: I *know* you can. I wanted to point out there is NO reason to do that. |
| 09:17.01 | Agiofws | how does someone install firebug on it though ? |
| 09:17.06 | cantido | normal FF will try to force the user to upgrade when a new build is made live upstream |
| 09:17.14 | cantido | Agiofws: firebug is in debian I think.. |
| 09:17.20 | Agiofws | ok |
| 09:17.21 | cantido | you can install plugins like normal though |
| 09:17.32 | cantido | maybe its in testing.. hmm |
| 09:17.34 | daemonkeeper | As for every other Plugin, you may either choose a package or the plugin using the plugin manager |
| 09:17.34 | Agiofws | prefer normally |
| 09:17.48 | Agiofws | plugin manager |
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| 09:18.07 | Upgreydd | daemonkeeper: sometimes it's needed. I have few scripts where i need a GUI to use it. |
| 09:18.27 | Upgreydd | any idea how to do netinstall for intel 5100agn? |
| 09:18.45 | daemonkeeper | Upgreydd: You use the wrong scripts then. Really. |
| 09:18.48 | ondrejk | well, i mean something like clusterssh |
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| 09:19.38 | Upgreydd | daemonkeeper: for example i've mafiawars in ff + autoplay in it ;) |
| 09:19.50 | Tobias| | I netinstalled over ethernet + installed desktop packages, Upgreydd, and my 5100agn works fine |
| 09:20.06 | daemonkeeper | Maybe you need the firmware though. |
| 09:20.08 | Upgreydd | Tobias| i must install over wireless |
| 09:20.28 | Upgreydd | in arch that's wasn't problem :/ |
| 09:20.52 | daemonkeeper | That's fine Upgreydd. Perhaps you will need a binary firmware image of the agn driver for legal reasons |
| 09:21.39 | Upgreydd | daemonkeeper: hmmm but where to find it? it should be a *.deb package? |
| 09:22.52 | daemonkeeper | There are quite a lot: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all - in non-free though, so they are not shipped in netinst images. |
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| 09:27.07 | Upgreydd | ok i need to try it ;) 5 min. |
| 09:27.24 | daemonkeeper | The solution is to supply the driver of your choice on an additional USB (pen) disk/floppy disk/wherver |
| 09:27.27 | acemi | ondrejk: pssh |
| 09:30.51 | ondrejk | acemi: does it support even interactive commands? |
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| 09:31.40 | acemi | ondrejk: i didn't try it, one of my friend uses it |
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| 09:32.41 | daemonkeeper | ondrejk: You may have look on KDE's konsole which can out of box feed multiple sessions at once |
| 09:33.07 | ondrejk | daemonkeeper: i need it for about 90+ machines |
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| 09:33.17 | daemonkeeper | ondrejk: So? |
| 09:33.40 | daemonkeeper | If you need it interactively you have to open a terminal for each, right? |
| 09:34.07 | ondrejk | daemonkeeper: yes, it's pretty annoying |
| 09:34.14 | Upgreydd | No kernel modules were found. This probably is due to a mismatch between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version availble in archive. |
| 09:35.24 | ondrejk | daemonkeeper: i've tried dish, looks good, but it's just for noninteractive commands |
| 09:35.26 | daemonkeeper | ondrejk: So, open konsole, open a session for each server and feed each by a single keystroke. |
| 09:36.10 | daemonkeeper | You may do it through DBUS too, so you don't have to SSH each session yourself but you can script it. I know that, I wrote the DBUS interface for konsole for exactly that purpose. |
| 09:36.37 | Upgreydd | good drivers but too old kernel. is there any way to change installer kernel? |
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| 09:37.28 | ondrejk | daemonkeeper: thanks, will check it |
| 09:37.50 | Hydroxide | Upgreydd: if you want a newer kernel for debian's installer, try the images here prepared by a japanese debian developer: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 09:38.36 | Hydroxide | Upgreydd: the images are unofficial, but they install debian just like the official ones. it's just using a newer kernel, backported by that developer from newer debian ones |
| 09:39.03 | daemonkeeper | ondrejk: I did write indeed a small binary living in the KDE ecosystem that may open SSH shells for you in konsole, which in turn allows you to send your input to every session |
| 09:39.15 | Upgreydd | Hydroxide: thank you :) But i should select 2.6.32, 2.6.30 or 2.6.28 kernel? |
| 09:40.25 | Hydroxide | Upgreydd: try 2.6.32 since Debian 6.0 squeeze will release with a version of that. but keep in mind that nobody will be providing official security support for the kernel installed by that installer. maybe unofficial security support will exist through kernels made available via lenny-backports |
| 09:41.03 | Hydroxide | Upgreydd: most likely you will be able to upgrade to squeeze when it comes out in a few weeks or a few months from now. even without that, the rest of what that installer installs should get the usual security support |
| 09:41.58 | Upgreydd | Hydroxide: Thank you :) i'll try it |
| 09:42.39 | Hydroxide | good luck |
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| 09:48.25 | erufu | hy |
| 09:48.26 | erufu | hi |
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| 09:55.28 | nirazio | how can i make iptables to block ping attempts?and stealth specific ports? |
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| 09:58.15 | JPT | nirazio: for ping you can block icmp responses. |
| 09:58.43 | nirazio | JPT: How to do that?? |
| 09:58.46 | JPT | for stealthing ports, you can try knockd |
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| 09:58.58 | JPT | i don't know, i never used iptables :) |
| 09:59.13 | nirazio | JPT: oke |
| 10:00.11 | nirazio | JPT: what abt knockd?? |
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| 10:01.20 | JPT | knockd will only give access to a port when the client "knocked" on other ports in a specific sequence |
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| 10:01.41 | JPT | it's like throwing stones at certain windows of a house in order to let the owner know that it's really you |
| 10:01.53 | JPT | kind of paranoid, but it should be what you're looking for |
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| 10:22.32 | nsadmin | , versions modruby |
| 10:22.33 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'modruby' was found in i386. |
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| 10:26.29 | Bop | can anyone explain me why squeeze had some kernel updates , but its always 2.6.32-5-686 ? |
| 10:26.51 | streuner_ | read changelog |
| 10:26.53 | Bop | i've downloaded the kernel package about 3 or 4 times , mas its always the same version |
| 10:27.12 | Bop | what changelog |
| 10:28.04 | streuner_ | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.32-29/changelog |
| 10:28.09 | Bop | ok |
| 10:28.52 | Bop | if its 2.6.32-29 why does it show to me 2.6.32-5-686 ? |
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| 10:29.12 | nsadmin | api version. |
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| 10:34.57 | ttiicc | I have a script /etc/init.d/jboss and would like to get it executed with boot and stopped with shutdown. What should I do? |
| 10:36.00 | i8degrees | ttiicc: read up on rc.d init scripts :] |
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| 10:36.24 | Deiu | Hello! |
| 10:36.25 | i8degrees | ttiicc: in short, write the script to execute said binary and run: |
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| 10:36.52 | Deiu | Is there an option to have apt install packages in a specific dir? (like /mnt/hdd) |
| 10:36.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:37.01 | Deiu | Sort of --prefix when compiling |
| 10:37.07 | i8degrees | ttiicc: update-rc.d defaults <script> |
| 10:37.27 | ttiicc | update-rc.d /etc/inint.d/jboss defaults will this script do it? |
| 10:37.33 | i8degrees | ttiicc: you will want to read up on the update-rc.d man page in order to discover the precise parameters, ex. runlevels, etc |
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| 10:37.56 | onoez_omg | fixing my ugly rc script, will the line at the top of the script do the trick and show me some logs after startup? |
| 10:37.59 | onoez_omg | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.56 | i8degrees | ttiicc: err, my bad, it would go something like this -- update-rc.d <script> [runlevel] | defaults |
| 10:38.58 | ttiicc | is it posssible to check which commands has been added by update-rc.d earlier? |
| 10:39.31 | i8degrees | ttiicc: either way, the man page regarding would be much more concise :] I'm more involved in Ubuntu nowadays, so .... |
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| 10:41.48 | i8degrees | Deiu: you will have to recompile the package in order to amend the installation path. check out apt-build and checkinstall :] |
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| 10:42.39 | Deiu | i8degrees, thanks, but that's not what I was looking for :) |
| 10:43.15 | Arrowmaster | why dont you tell us why you want to do that? |
| 10:43.52 | i8degrees | Deiu: hehe *shrug* there is one other way: reconstructing the package all together and fudging it, but you are on your own, there :-] dirty dirty hack |
| 10:44.36 | Deiu | I'm trying to circumvent the /var and /usr dirs, without having to mount them off an external storage |
| 10:44.52 | Deiu | *for some reason the external hdd takes a while to be detected* |
| 10:45.07 | Deiu | so I can't add it to fstab |
| 10:45.39 | frikinz | Deiu: what about dpkg --instdir=/foo |
| 10:45.51 | Deiu | frikinz, haven't tried it yet |
| 10:46.00 | Deiu | what about dependencies? |
| 10:46.06 | Deiu | do they also go to /foo? |
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| 10:47.02 | frikinz | Deiu: if you ask them to yes. But you will have to tweak still some things as the binaries will still look for files in the normal root... |
| 10:47.11 | faheem | can anyone check if this is reproducible on debian later than lenny, ie squeeze or unstable? dpkg -l apt apt gives : No packages found matching apt |
| 10:47.24 | faheem | along with the result for apt |
| 10:47.32 | frikinz | faheem: not here on sid |
| 10:47.37 | Deiu | frikinz, that's ugly :) |
| 10:47.45 | i8degrees | frikinz: that's a neat parameter :] |
| 10:47.47 | faheem | frikinz: ok, thanks |
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| 10:48.15 | Deiu | I wonder if I can force the hdd detection sooner |
| 10:48.26 | Deiu | or give the boot sequence a timeout |
| 10:48.41 | i8degrees | any diagnostic output on the matter? |
| 10:48.52 | Deiu | the hdd takes ~30 secs to be detected |
| 10:49.24 | faheem | frikinz: does it complain about duplication? |
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| 10:52.04 | frikinz | faheem: no. I have a lenny here (not sure if it's a full lenny :) and I don't seem to have the problem either |
| 10:52.47 | faheem | frikinz: hmm. strange |
| 10:52.49 | frikinz | dpkg 1.14.29 |
| 10:52.49 | dpkg | 1.14 |
| 10:53.25 | faheem | frikinz: 1.14.30 ? |
| 10:53.40 | faheem | sorry, 1.14.30 here |
| 10:54.20 | faheem | this looks like a recent update |
| 10:54.30 | faheem | Wed, 20 Oct 2010 |
| 10:54.38 | faheem | can anyone check with this version of dpkg? |
| 10:54.39 | frikinz | ok so I have an old lenny dpkg |
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| 10:55.53 | frikinz | faheem: maybe you don't have apt ? |
| 10:56.48 | faheem | frikinz: no, first it lists the package version as normal, then it gives the message i showed |
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| 10:57.01 | faheem | same for any package on the system |
| 10:58.11 | faheem | what it should do is either just list once or return an error complaining about duplication |
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| 10:58.37 | faheem | i can paste complete output if it would help prevent confusion |
| 10:59.18 | faheem | same with 1.4.29 |
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| 10:59.50 | faheem | so, this is not seen with sid? |
| 11:00.14 | Deiu | Is there a way to add a "sleep 10" during the boot process, before fstab is parsed? |
| 11:00.41 | i8degrees | *nods* |
| 11:01.14 | i8degrees | I can't remember where precisely off the top of my head =/ it is dealt within initrd methinks |
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| 11:01.49 | i8degrees | Deiu: have a look within /etc/initramfs-tools or such? |
| 11:02.00 | Deiu | Thanks, I will. |
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| 11:05.03 | i8degrees | Deiu: btw, in regards to detection of your device -- if at all possible, it might be wise to advise trying to resolve the issue at its core rather than sleeping it off :] perhaps try a kernel upgrade to a more recent stable branch? |
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| 11:05.48 | Deiu | i8degrees, I'm working with a sheevaplug, so it's tricky :) |
| 11:06.29 | i8degrees | Deiu: lol :-) |
| 11:07.27 | Deiu | I'm starting to hate it |
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| 11:11.33 | i8degrees | *nods* I've got a Tablet PC whom I share that feeling with ... heh |
| 11:12.38 | nsadmin | at least you can share your feelings with something... |
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| 11:14.03 | i8degrees | laughs |
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| 11:32.57 | papabaer | hello, I have some problems with hibernation on squeeze using kernel 2.6.37-rc5-686. After each hibernation, it seems that the swap-partition is gone. Kernel does not find swap-device via uuid an after the normal boot, blkid doesn't find it either. Swapon is also not working, so I have to recreate the swap device. On a second system using squeeze with 2.6.37-rc5-amd64, this problem is none existing. Any idea what causes this proble |
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| 11:34.11 | onoez_omg | well, its not actually a debian-related question, but maybe someone could give me a hint |
| 11:34.48 | onoez_omg | i'm trying to mount truecrypt volume on boot with rc script http://n0tm3.s7ick.org/pastebin/4d08a3c14f83c.html |
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| 11:35.32 | onoez_omg | but truecrypt falls in interpret mode and asked for password, that is weird, because it is protected only with a key file |
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| 11:35.45 | onoez_omg | here is log http://n0tm3.s7ick.org/pastebin/4d08a40d94ef5.html |
| 11:36.23 | onoez_omg | it works fine when system is already booted and as u c, it still mounts it anyway on boot |
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| 11:40.44 | bloodcry | egads, mice suck |
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| 11:44.43 | trupheenix | how to find out which package a file belongs to? |
| 11:44.58 | petemc | dpkg -S |
| 11:44.58 | dpkg | petemc: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 11:45.15 | trupheenix | petemc, dpkg -S then? |
| 11:45.27 | daemonkeeper | Yes. Just ignore the bot. |
| 11:45.56 | daemonkeeper | You might find apt-file useful too. |
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| 11:51.32 | bolt-work | onoez_omg: are you sure the keyfile is available at boot? |
| 11:55.29 | react | i need help configuring gnome / desktopx on debian |
| 11:55.47 | react | i did a network install, should i have configured during installation? |
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| 11:58.31 | LoonaTick | I'm creating a tar archive to backup a folder with a couple of million files in it. Each day of updates, I put in a different .tar file, using tar -rf. -r appends the new files at the end of the archive. Does anyone know a way to insert in the archive that the file was removed? eg, incremental backup .tar can contain 'a.jpg', after a couple of new files 'a.jpg', and then 'a.jpg' was removed. |
| 11:58.55 | Farkie | Hey: How can I find out the model of a cpu |
| 11:59.03 | Farkie | I get: model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz |
| 11:59.16 | Farkie | trying to see if it supports VT |
| 11:59.23 | bloodcry | look at /proc/cpuinfo |
| 11:59.26 | bloodcry | see if it lists vmx |
| 11:59.30 | Farkie | fpu de tsc msr pae cx8 apic mtrr cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht cid |
| 11:59.49 | bloodcry | sol |
| 12:00.16 | Farkie | ? |
| 12:00.30 | bloodcry | s*** outta luck |
| 12:01.03 | Farkie | no VT? |
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| 12:05.53 | abrotman | j #debian-offtopic |
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| 12:10.12 | onoez_omg | bolt-work, pretty sure, you see, it still mounts successfully after those weird messages asking a password |
| 12:14.03 | onoez_omg | i think that somehow truecrypt should be manually informed on that the volume is not hidden, not protected with a password and should be backgrounded somehow, but i still can not figure out how exactly to do this, guys from #truecrypt keep silence always ) thanks anyway, bolt-work, and soz for my english |
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| 12:15.32 | react | so i installed gnome |
| 12:15.37 | react | and it almost finished |
| 12:15.55 | react | now it stopped on 99% [Working] |
| 12:23.36 | abrotman | react: what stopped? |
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| 12:25.32 | react | at the end of gnome install |
| 12:25.49 | react | i used cmd apt-get install gnome |
| 12:25.58 | react | stopped all of a sudden |
| 12:26.09 | react | 99% [Working] |
| 12:26.19 | react | trying again... |
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| 12:29.16 | Phil | so Debian tells me /etc/init.d/networking restart is depreciated |
| 12:29.21 | Phil | what has it been depreciated for? |
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| 12:30.18 | petern_ | "Running $0 $1 is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces" |
| 12:30.46 | Phil | yeh, saw that |
| 12:30.55 | Phil | but what should be used instead? |
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| 12:49.11 | frikinz | Phil: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565187 |
| 12:49.20 | frikinz | stop followed by start |
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| 12:50.57 | Hyperi | Old packages are not accessible anymore? |
| 12:51.05 | Hyperi | Failed to fetch http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 130.230.54.99 80] |
| 12:51.29 | qq- | !ado |
| 12:51.29 | dpkg | Debian has archives of no-longer-supported releases at http://archive.debian.org/ . To use with <APT>, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For old versions of specific packages, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 12:51.39 | bolt-work | !etch |
| 12:51.39 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
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| 12:54.15 | ondrejk | hello, im trying to configure /etc/security/limits.conf, what should i imagine under memlock, rss, stack and as? can i get better description for this? |
| 12:55.39 | Hyperi | qq-: tyvm :) |
| 12:55.51 | qq- | np |
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| 12:56.45 | abrotman | !tell Hyperi about etch->lenny |
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| 12:58.22 | mguy | ondrejk: what are you trying to achieve? |
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| 12:59.10 | ondrejk | mguy: id like to restrict use of memory for certain process/user |
| 12:59.33 | ondrejk | i dont see diference between as, memlock and rss |
| 13:00.08 | ondrejk | i know there's cgroups but i would like to do it by limits.conf |
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| 13:02.27 | fruitwerks | anyone here also in #ubuntu? I'm banned for some reason |
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| 13:06.32 | Bushmills | asking debian related questions on #ubuntu, grin |
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| 13:07.06 | fruitwerks | yeah I doubt it, I haven't even said anything in there for a week |
| 13:08.44 | abrotman | fruitwerks: try #freenode, we cannot help with #ubuntu |
| 13:09.00 | abrotman | fruitwerks: or msg an op |
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| 13:19.08 | itchi | Hi all, have someone done the firefox4 install as non root-user as noted here?: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=1032 |
| 13:20.20 | itchi | I have donwloaded the debs, extracted it and then created the symlinks ln -s /usr/lib/xulrunner-2.0 extracted/usr/lib but when i run: ./extracted/usr/bin/firefox the Iceweasel 3.5 is starting up |
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| 13:32.06 | Bushmills | quit 3.5 first, or just a new window will be opened |
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| 13:35.15 | kblessinggr | So I just installed xen per the instructions here http://bit.ly/xen-on-squeeze (using Debian Squeeze), course when I try xen-create-image, I get "No recognised installation type." , now I'm guessing I need OS templates, but not sure where to get and how to install those as they're not outlined in the wiki |
| 13:36.04 | itchi | Bushmills: Yeah, i have closed Iceweasel and no running process anymore according to ps |
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| 13:36.27 | itchi | but still start up 3.5 :( |
| 13:36.54 | itchi | I just want to experiment with webgl, needs som recent (beta) browser for some personal project |
| 13:38.30 | RichiH | hmm, esniper is seems to be unable to snipe ebay auctions. any suggestions for other command line snipers? |
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| 13:44.13 | HideMe | Exim has non-zero size, mail system might be broken message, string too large in smtp_notquit_exit(). Any idea what the cause is? |
| 13:46.17 | itchi | Bushmills: Well, i found out that running the command as root work as expected, it then start up the Firefox 4, which isn't the case as regular user |
| 13:47.34 | Bushmills | sounds like a problem with file permissions |
| 13:50.00 | itchi | Bushmills: If i chown the extracted stuff, will that follow the symlinks? |
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| 13:51.48 | Bushmills | read permission on files, and read+execute on directories should suffice |
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| 13:52.32 | Bushmills | 644 vs 755, regardless on ownership. |
| 13:52.44 | Bushmills | of |
| 13:53.05 | Trewas | itchi: why not install it directly from upstream .tar.gz, especially if you want it for only one user? |
| 13:53.25 | itchi | Trewas: well, this way of doing looked so simple to do :) |
| 13:53.58 | itchi | Trewas: The only thing i care is not to break the system |
| 13:54.09 | Trewas | well there is one command to extract the .tar.gz somewhere in your home directory and you are good to go :) |
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| 13:55.47 | sevard | Alright. I'm an old slackware guy trying to familiarize himself with the new world |
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| 13:55.59 | sevard | I can't figure out what the hell you do with something like this |
| 13:56.06 | sevard | handbrake-cli depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.4.0); however: Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.3.2-1.1. |
| 13:56.22 | sevard | you can't specify what specific versions to upgrade to using apt-get |
| 13:57.52 | itchi | Trewas: Well, first need to compile Firefox no? |
| 13:58.26 | Bushmills | ,versions libstdc++6 |
| 13:58.28 | judd | Package libstdc++6 on i386 -- etch: 4.1.1-21; lenny: 4.3.2-1.1; lenny-backports: 4.3.4-6~bpo50+1; squeeze: 4.4.5-8; sid: 4.4.5-10; experimental: 4.5.1-12 |
| 13:59.08 | Trewas | itchi: no, just download a pre-compiled binary from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html |
| 13:59.13 | Bushmills | handbrake-cli isn't made to run on your presumably lenny installation |
| 14:00.13 | Trewas | itchi: though it may not work in stable debian, as it may assume newer library versions |
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| 14:00.47 | io41__ | sevard: you'll need a handbrake package for your distro (lenny?) |
| 14:00.57 | io41__ | sevard: you should be able to use http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 14:01.27 | itchi | Trewas: Cool, man, it's already working like a charm :) Many thanks!!! |
| 14:02.47 | io41__ | sevard: it has instructions on how to add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list file (for lenny). After that, you can "apt-get update && apt-get install hardbrake-cli" |
| 14:04.49 | itchi | ah guys, did you saw what webgl stuff does, it's just that crazy and i'm happy that the end of Flash is soon |
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| 14:05.48 | io41__ | itchi, flash won't end soon. We all wish it would, but it won't. |
| 14:06.13 | itchi | io41__: Well, lets cross our finger and hope it will die :P |
| 14:06.46 | io41__ | itchi: yeah, I do hope so. A slow painful death would be just. |
| 14:07.17 | itchi | haha :P |
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| 14:09.06 | stuckey | hi all |
| 14:09.53 | stuckey | Question about usb/udev/hotplug: regarding user-space libararies, I have to run something as root, or configure udev/hotplug to give permissiong to something for it to run. How and what do I give permission? |
| 14:10.11 | stuckey | I'm reading: Phidget21 for Linux is a user-space library. Applications typically have to be run as root, or udev/hotplug must be |
| 14:10.14 | stuckey | configured to give permissions when the Phidget is plugged in. |
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| 14:10.54 | itchi | handbrake seems to be cool |
| 14:11.08 | itchi | but doesn't really does what i expected lol |
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| 14:13.20 | kblessinggr | So I'm following these instructions http://bit.ly/xen-on-squeeze , and on the xen-create-image command, my console is frozen at "Installation method: debootstrap" |
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| 14:15.57 | doublehp | how do i make work "tap" on my Alps touchpad ? |
| 14:16.35 | abrotman | didn't you figure that out last night ? |
| 14:16.42 | doublehp | no |
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| 14:18.04 | doublehp | Debian is now using X >= 1.5, so i give up on doing it myself. Without tap, my laptop is not really usable. |
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| 14:22.59 | jelly | !touchpad |
| 14:22.59 | dpkg | Synaptics is a X.org driver for laptop touchpads. For use in X, install the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package and "man synaptics" for driver options; GUI configuration tools include gsynaptics and gpointing-device-settings (Squeeze). Not working? -> "modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse". Driver does not support X.org auto-configuration in Lenny. http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad . See also <clickpad>, <trackpoint>. |
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| 14:33.34 | doublehp | jelly does not help. cursor works; only tap is missing |
| 14:35.10 | itchi | doublehp: Bah, that's just a laptop killing feature. It will just help to let die your hdd faster if the touchpad is above the hdd |
| 14:35.15 | Rug | I need to pick some brains, so I hope anybody can help. I have 2 networks in our office. LAN1 is the PC network, and LAN2 is the IP-camera network. (LAN1=10.x.x.x, LAN2=192.168.x.x) (both connected to the same switch via VLAN. The cameras are dumb (no gateway), and can only communicate with the 192.168.x.x network. (I already checked the router settings). I can communicate 100% with a PC on that LAN. Solution: setup an apache server on the camera LAN that |
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| 14:35.51 | bodom | Hi there. I'm getting in trouble trying to find the correct "debian way" to set hosts_avoid_tls=* on exim4, may someone help me? |
| 14:36.12 | doublehp | itchi: it's just the only feature that make a laptop easier to use than a desktop ; it kills HDD only when you have a bad driver that does not let you configure light tapping |
| 14:36.46 | doublehp | itchi: i need touchpads and tapping so much ... I made a touchpad for my desktop |
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| 14:36.59 | itchi | doublehp: nah, light tapping isn't that nice to personally, i just get tired of it when mouse mouve sudenly cause of some hair touched the pad :) |
| 14:37.18 | itchi | doublehp: but it's ok, if you like tapping, it's ok, no problem with it :) |
| 14:37.28 | doublehp | i don't store food and dust on my computers |
| 14:37.36 | itchi | lol |
| 14:38.49 | kblessinggr | ugh, new deb install on a diff server and the hotkeys in vim don't work like I expect, like i isn't inserting |
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| 14:39.27 | itchi | kblessinggr: hmm, you got the default vim config |
| 14:39.42 | kblessinggr | but I never had to change the config on my other server... so kinda confused |
| 14:39.55 | kblessinggr | where's it located so I can just copy it over from what I know |
| 14:39.57 | itchi | kblessinggr: just copy over your .vimrc stuff |
| 14:40.05 | kblessinggr | oh in the home dir? |
| 14:40.08 | itchi | kblessinggr: in your home |
| 14:40.21 | itchi | or system wide, depend how you have done it in the past |
| 14:40.22 | doublehp | like my GF said me once: <<when debian does not work, search for your pboelm in Gentoo forums>> => this worked for now http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Synaptics_Touchpad (i have single tap, now working on D&D ... ) |
| 14:41.50 | kblessinggr | itchi: I have an empty .vim folder, .viminfo, and 'find / -name .vimrc returns no results |
| 14:42.19 | stew | kblessinggr: are you invoking it as "vim" or as "vi"? |
| 14:42.23 | kblessinggr | vi |
| 14:42.30 | itchi | ah |
| 14:42.41 | kblessinggr | never tried/used vim as opposed to 'vi' |
| 14:42.41 | stew | kblessinggr: on the one that isn't working as you like, what does "readlink -f $(which vi)" return? |
| 14:43.08 | kblessinggr | its /usr/bin/vim.tiny |
| 14:43.17 | kblessinggr | on the one that works its .basic |
| 14:43.30 | stew | kblessinggr: you might "update-alternatives --config vi" |
| 14:43.48 | kblessinggr | the main diff is the new one is a dedicated server where the host installed deb, the other one is a VPS template I setup myself |
| 14:44.08 | kblessinggr | according to that, there is only .tiny stew |
| 14:44.38 | stew | kblessinggr: you might install something like vim-full or vim-nox |
| 14:44.50 | kblessinggr | hrm or just vim which I noticed isn't installed on aptitotude |
| 14:44.53 | stew | -nox I suppose |
| 14:45.36 | kblessinggr | k, got .basic now, gona try it out. thanks |
| 14:46.42 | Rug | Has anybody had a chance to think about my question? |
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| 14:47.21 | Rug | Or, should I setup a proxy? |
| 14:47.46 | stew | Rug: afaict you haven't yet asked a question |
| 14:47.54 | stew | Rug: oh, it looks like your first line in the channel was truncated |
| 14:47.55 | sep | Rug, i think your questions was cut short. since what i saw was.. "setup an apache server on the camera LAN tha " |
| 14:48.04 | Rug | ack.... sorry |
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| 14:48.42 | sep | Rug, never heard of ip cameras that does not have a gateway... |
| 14:49.07 | sep | i would doublecheck that if i was you. perhaps ever go as far as reading the manual |
| 14:49.14 | Rug | would you mind joining #debian-flood so I can re-post? (sep, old acti cameras) |
| 14:49.49 | Rug | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:49.52 | dkr | just add an interface alias so your server is listening on both subnets |
| 14:50.24 | Rug | The |
| 14:50.25 | Rug | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.30 | Rug | ack... |
| 14:50.33 | Rug | sorry |
| 14:50.51 | Rug | never mind... |
| 14:51.25 | stew | !customer |
| 14:51.25 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
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| 14:52.27 | sec_goat | what is the "shortcut" to a home directory? IE i am trying to MV a file to my home dir but I cannot recall |
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| 14:52.37 | dkr | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.37 | apt | / is, like, home, sweet home |
| 14:54.03 | spaceninja | The wine configuration application crashes when I click on the audio tab. Does anyone else experience this? |
| 14:54.07 | doublehp | it happens in some scripts, or even in CLI, when i do << cmd | grep >> or << cmd || /bin/true >> (even with spaces around the pipe), my debian says sometimes "grep command not found" or "true command not found". Any clue . |
| 14:54.08 | doublehp | ? |
| 14:54.59 | spaceninja | this is the error output http://dpaste.com/286995/ |
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| 14:56.42 | dkr | doublehp: what is the exact command that results in the error? |
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| 14:56.49 | dkr | (and the exact error message) |
| 14:57.20 | doublehp | dkr: it has to do with the keyboard configuration ... |
| 14:57.34 | abrotman | wonders if there is video of said space ninja ... |
| 15:00.21 | sec_goat | niiice thanks guys! |
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| 15:03.57 | goldins | Hello, I want to rebuild rdesktop with support for smartcards. I downloaded the source with apt-get source rdesktop, how do I build it with the necessary ./configure flags? |
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| 15:07.01 | sevard | io41: I think I have that.. |
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| 15:08.49 | gigo | Is there any channel to discuss computer science operating system concepts? |
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| 15:11.21 | gigo | any help with this question: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eT1a9xm6 ? |
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| 15:16.14 | stew | gigo: what is going to stop the other processor from running over the same critical section? |
| 15:16.51 | gigo | ok |
| 15:17.16 | stew | gigo: does my question make sense? |
| 15:17.26 | gigo | yes, it helps. thanks. |
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| 15:18.18 | anoob | hi, i use "svnadmin create repo" to create new svn repositories... where should i put it? in /var/repositories? is there any pattern? |
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| 15:20.31 | jk | anoob: no, it's up to you |
| 15:20.57 | anoob | jk, hum... any suggestion? |
| 15:21.32 | stew | anoob: /var/lib/src/repository /var/lib/svn/repository /srv/repository /srv/src/repository /home/user/src/repository |
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| 15:21.41 | stew | anoob: /usr/src/repository |
| 15:22.26 | anoob | stew, what does srv/ do? |
| 15:22.32 | stew | anoob: man hier |
| 15:22.44 | anoob | ok, thank you stew |
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| 15:29.26 | sec_goat | bahh so I have installed inadyn, and it says the default config gile should be /etc/inadyn.conf but when i go to look there is nothing there, can I just create that config file myself then? |
| 15:29.49 | burn | hello, I cannot boot my debian anymore after a powercut |
| 15:30.03 | burn | I'm getting kernel panic and can't load /scripts... |
| 15:30.18 | stew | sec_goat: does "dpkg -s inadyn" mention inadyn.conf in the 'conffiles' section? |
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| 15:31.38 | surf | hi guys a strange thing happens in my debian. Sometimes some letters are not well rendered and form smt like black squares. You can see an example here: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3728/schermatadz.png |
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| 15:32.50 | sec_goat | stew: No, it just describs what the program is, no conffiles section at all |
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| 15:36.20 | h3sp4wn | Can anyone see anything obviously wrong with this /etc/default/grub (Not automatically booting for some reason) Its fine but I just have to manually press enter over the serial |
| 15:36.58 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: which one ? |
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| 15:37.25 | surf | do you think it's a theme problem or render stuff? |
| 15:37.27 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: I presume its the default or timeout |
| 15:38.06 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: which conf ??? |
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| 15:38.22 | h3sp4wn | http://paste.debian.net/102486/ |
| 15:38.27 | h3sp4wn | sorry I forgot to put that |
| 15:38.55 | spaceninja | abrotman: what do you mean, is this common? |
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| 15:40.55 | SPF | surf: you might not have the right locales. |
| 15:41.06 | surf | SPF, what you mean? |
| 15:41.26 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: no, for ME it should work. what happens if you reboot, and just wait ? do you get a counter ? |
| 15:41.34 | sec_goat | When i try to start inadyn manually it tells me command not found... is there someway I make sure debian knows where it is installed? |
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| 15:41.52 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: Stays indefinately at the grub screen |
| 15:41.57 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: very broken machines may ... either have bios stack some keys in the buffer, or, keyboards send strokes |
| 15:42.18 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: you should have a counter to me |
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| 15:42.33 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: paste your grub.conf |
| 15:42.42 | SPF | surf: locales contain charsets that are used to display text. Just type 'locale' and check it yourself |
| 15:42.54 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: grub.cfg ? |
| 15:43.02 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: the difference between /etc/default/grub and grub.conf is ... update-grub ! |
| 15:43.17 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: the bIOS does not load /etc, it loads /boot/grub !!! |
| 15:43.32 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: you forgot to run update-grub ? |
| 15:43.42 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: I have run it hundreds of times |
| 15:43.46 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: i have it in my shutdown scripts, to never forget it ^^ |
| 15:43.55 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: paste grub.conf |
| 15:44.07 | r0hit | doublehp: its easily configurable to load grub.cfg from anywhere i think |
| 15:44.39 | burn | is it possible to reinstall only the very basic system? |
| 15:44.39 | SPF | !tell surf about locale |
| 15:44.55 | burn | without touching the rest |
| 15:45.04 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: it stays at which grub screen ? |
| 15:45.32 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: The one where you choose which kernel to boot |
| 15:45.53 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: so, the menu. that's fine. now,paste the conf ! the file which is in /boot |
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| 15:47.34 | surf | SPF, I have all the locales set to italian |
| 15:49.02 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: I have no grub.conf only grub.cfg - http://paste.debian.net/102487/ |
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| 15:50.15 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: that's fine; try to boot without keyboard plugged |
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| 15:50.45 | doublehp | keyboard, mouse ... any I/O device that could send a key stroke |
| 15:51.39 | surf | SPF, http://pastebin.com/McVsLSPi |
| 15:51.55 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: you have a serial -- unit line ... try to remove it |
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| 15:52.37 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: if you are using serial port to control the machine, then, it could be the issue. Serial monitor, KVM ... |
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| 15:53.09 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: this conf works : http://pastebin.com/5L2L75QY . You are not far from me. |
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| 15:54.48 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: either you should remove serial, or you are missing gettext . I can't say more. |
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| 15:56.39 | surf | SPF, in the other debian notebook I have LANG=it_IT.UTF-8 whilst in this I can see LANG=it_IT.utf8 Can this be a problem? |
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| 16:07.43 | mollison | i need to write a Python 2 script that runs on both arch linux and debian |
| 16:07.57 | mollison | problem is, i don't know how to invoke the Python 2 interpreter in a way that works on both |
| 16:08.21 | mollison | python2 works on arch linux but not on debian; python2.6 works on debian but not arch linux; and python does Python 3 on arch linux |
| 16:08.52 | mollison | any tips? is there some better way to write the script than having the first line be #!/usr/bin/env <interpreter> ? |
| 16:09.08 | surf | SPF, any idea? |
| 16:11.26 | dkr | So HR e-mails a .pdf with blank fields to fill in and wants us to e-mail it back. Is there some way to do this without the craziness of printing and scanning? (or buying windows and adobe pdf authoring software) |
| 16:11.33 | bzed | mollison: arch linux compltely fucked up their python stuff by letting /usr/bin/python point to python3.X |
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| 16:11.45 | surf | hi guys a strange thing happens in my debian. Sometimes some letters are not well rendered and form smt like black squares. You can see an example here: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3728/schermatadz.png |
| 16:12.00 | mollison | yeah but that doesn't solve my problem :-) |
| 16:12.12 | doublehp | how do i make work "tap" on my Alps touchpad ? i made it working 1h ago, and after reboot, stopped :'((( |
| 16:12.12 | bzed | mollison: which is not the way the python upstream intended it to be |
| 16:12.16 | doublehp | i don't know how i broke it :'( |
| 16:12.29 | bzed | mollison: so the first thing you should do is to complain loudly that the arch people have a mess. |
| 16:12.56 | bzed | mollison: and I guess the only way to fix this is to use python2.6 in the shebang or create a wrapper script |
| 16:13.04 | doublehp | just ran dpkg-reconfigure x11-common if it matters |
| 16:13.22 | mollison | yeah i guess the wrapper script is the only solution |
| 16:13.27 | mollison | i was hoping there was a cleaner way to do it |
| 16:13.54 | mollison | well, the other solution is to maintain a separate archlinux branch of the program, lol |
| 16:15.34 | mollison | thanks |
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| 16:18.06 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: I am a little further it works just fine if the serial cable is connected otherwise it waits for input (grub1 just booted anyway) |
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| 16:19.03 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: if you had started by saying "I am using non standard hardware", we would all have saved hours |
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| 16:20.19 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: Its pretty standard (never had this problem with grub1) opteron mcp55 it has a vga but I prefer not to have to lug monitors |
| 16:20.54 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: Its only a pc serial port |
| 16:20.58 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: having a serial cable is NOT standard. Grub2 is known to fail any place where grub1 used to work straight |
| 16:21.13 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: standard people use VGA+PS2 |
| 16:21.30 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: standard people don't even have a serial port on their computers |
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| 16:26.36 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: I think quite a large proportion of people use serial on servers (x86 or not) Sorry (I thought you would have noticed that straight away from the /etc/default/grub file) |
| 16:27.00 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: i did, from /boot/grub/grub.cfg ... |
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| 16:30.12 | doublehp | how do i make work "tap" on my Alps touchpad ? i made it working 1h ago, and after reboot, stopped :( just ran dpkg-reconfigure x11-common if it matters |
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| 16:30.58 | SPF | surf: hmm, then I don;t know. I use en_US.utf8 myself |
| 16:31.34 | surf | SPF, mmm which other things can lead to this problem? |
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| 16:32.55 | SPF | surf: maybe you need to have a plugin for your graphical program with the right charset |
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| 16:33.10 | surf | I use gnome... |
| 16:33.38 | surf | SPF, maybe it's the theme? |
| 16:33.47 | SPF | I don't know |
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| 16:34.40 | SPF | afk |
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| 16:35.44 | surf | hi guys a strange thing happens in my debian. Sometimes some letters are not well rendered and form smt like black squares. You can see an example here: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3728/schermatadz.png |
| 16:36.14 | Boo_Boo | anyone tell me what going on with virtualbox-ose, ive installed it but i get an error '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' and says install dkms first but it's already installed ? |
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| 16:37.50 | satellit_afk | Boo_Boo: you may need source repo and correct headers? |
| 16:38.10 | dkr | figured out my earlier question. with gnome document viewer you can't save edited .pdf, but you can type in the blank fields and then print to file to make a new .pdf with your added text |
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| 16:38.41 | Boo_Boo | satellit_afk: how would i get the headers ? |
| 16:38.55 | Boo_Boo | i've seen the source in repo |
| 16:40.28 | satellit_afk | I am not sure in debian I see this if kernel changes when installing Oracle Virtualbox. I find correct kernel headers and sown loand then do ,/vboxdrv setup from .etc.init.d/ hope this helps |
| 16:40.42 | satellit_afk | in fedora |
| 16:41.05 | Boo_Boo | i'll try that satellit_afk thanks |
| 16:41.09 | satellit_afk | yw |
| 16:42.30 | jhutchins_lt | surf: install the appropriate fonts for your localle. |
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| 16:42.46 | sec_goat | bleh startup script for running INadyn? or anything really? Is there a good tutorial for wriitng and running scripts? |
| 16:43.22 | surf | jhutchins_lt, but it's strange that the error happens just from time to time. Btw locale is ok. Which one should I install? |
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| 16:46.21 | ZeuZ | I've setup a KVM guest, since public bridge would break havok with my provider, I've setted up the KVM host as a router. I can transfer things inside the network I've been given, however, no internet connection for the KVM guest. |
| 16:46.27 | ZeuZ | I've enabled ip_forward |
| 16:46.40 | ZeuZ | and I've set a route for that hosts IP to the tap device |
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| 16:46.48 | jhutchins_lt | Darned if I know. You have more than one font. aptitude search |
| 16:47.26 | ZeuZ | What's lacking there? (tap device is up, obviously otherwise route wouldn't be able to work it) |
| 16:48.18 | surf | jhutchins_lt, but all the other systems work with no problems.... really strange.. how the heck can I find the right ones? |
| 16:48.40 | jhutchins_lt | It will require the use of your brain. |
| 16:48.51 | surf | fantastic |
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| 16:49.20 | jhutchins_lt | surf: It may also be a glitch in the rendering of your video driver. Are the missing characters accented? |
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| 16:50.21 | surf | jhutchins_lt, no, they are random letters, as shown in the pic http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3728/schermatadz.png |
| 16:50.53 | sec_goat | does this cover getting something to run at boot time? http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/ |
| 16:51.08 | jhutchins_lt | surf: Sorry, on my smartphone that's just a blur. |
| 16:51.40 | surf | jhutchins_lt, ok, btw no... just random letters with no accents |
| 16:51.55 | sec_goat | surf: it just looks like a wierd font you are using, can you change that? I am definitely no expert here |
| 16:51.56 | jhutchins_lt | surf: That could be a rendering issue. |
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| 16:52.43 | chomwitt | where should i run /usr/bin/script to record the installation session ? in a vt in the first installation step? |
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| 16:52.44 | surf | sec_goat, it happens also in the web pages... |
| 16:52.58 | surf | jhutchins_lt, this is what I fear... |
| 16:55.32 | pinkisntwell | why does the manpage for xset say that settings will be reverted to default when i logout? should i run xset every time i login? |
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| 17:00.12 | razieliyo | hi |
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| 17:01.54 | jhutchins_lt | surf: I'd read up on issues with your chipset and look into anti-aliasing on LCD dislays, see what you get. |
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| 17:19.14 | p3rror | hello |
| 17:19.38 | razieliyo | hi |
| 17:19.55 | p3rror | is there any lame package |
| 17:19.57 | p3rror | in debian |
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| 17:20.44 | razieliyo | p3rror, http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/l/lame/lame.php look at this |
| 17:21.09 | razieliyo | it seems there is |
| 17:24.05 | p3rror | razieliyo, thank you |
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| 17:25.12 | sfjkg | 'sup guiz? I've got a (hopefully) quick question. When I run "startx", what is the file that tells it what wm to start? |
| 17:25.18 | mactimes | Does anyone know what "Internet Superserver" service refers to? |
| 17:26.32 | llutz | mactimes: inetd |
| 17:26.34 | stew | mactimes: inetd |
| 17:26.37 | mactimes | Thanks |
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| 17:29.27 | sec_goat | here is an easy question i hope: is there a way from command line to tell if something is running or not? |
| 17:29.39 | razieliyo | sec_goat, ps aux |
| 17:29.49 | razieliyo | I think that list every command is running |
| 17:30.09 | sec_goat | niiiice |
| 17:30.14 | razieliyo | I usually use ps aux | grep -i program_you_want_to_know_is_running |
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| 17:30.17 | sec_goat | well that gives me what i need either way |
| 17:30.30 | sec_goat | would i man PS or PS AUX |
| 17:30.47 | razieliyo | you can do some bash script |
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| 17:31.08 | razieliyo | so that you just have to type, running program_you_want_etcetc |
| 17:31.55 | razieliyo | the command is just ps |
| 17:31.59 | razieliyo | aux is some options |
| 17:32.00 | sfjkg | nevermind, I found the answer. I'm going to make a coffee before I start asking more silly questions :P |
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| 17:39.09 | cusco | hi |
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| 17:44.47 | legis | Hi, how can I make iceweasel display foreign characters? the character enconding is set to utf-8 |
| 17:45.23 | legis | for example, I can't see chinese ones |
| 17:45.45 | pinkisntwell | legis: you must have the fonts that provide the glyphs installed |
| 17:46.00 | pinkisntwell | legis: do you have any chinese fonts? |
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| 17:46.42 | legis | pinkisntwell: no |
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| 17:47.08 | legis | pinkisntwell: like xfonts-intl-chinese ? |
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| 17:51.59 | pinkisntwell | legis: i don't know, try aptitude search chinese and see what you get |
| 17:52.09 | pinkisntwell | legis: and install accordingly |
| 17:53.19 | pinkisntwell | legis: encoding it's just a way to deduce what character needs to be written, if you don't have a font that provides it you're still gonna get garbage. unicode specifies so many characters, i don't believe there is a system capable to display them all |
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| 17:58.32 | sevard | Wjhoawjgowjgaosg. |
| 17:58.41 | sevard | Why can't install handbrake-cli |
| 17:58.46 | sevard | the package is seemingly empty |
| 17:59.54 | sevard | oh what the hell |
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| 17:59.56 | sevard | lol. |
| 18:00.10 | sevard | today i learned dpkg --contents is very useful. |
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| 18:03.02 | delby | is there a difference between adding 'deb http:...../debian/ sid main...' and deb http...../debian/ unstable main...' to sources.list? |
| 18:03.14 | sevard | apparently so. |
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| 18:03.19 | sevard | but i have no idea. |
| 18:03.29 | damasceno | delby, yes. |
| 18:03.58 | delby | could you expand please |
| 18:04.01 | damasceno | delby, with sid main, you'll get the packages of sid repository. |
| 18:04.01 | qwd | what? sid=unstable, why would it make any difference? |
| 18:04.18 | damasceno | And unstable you'll get the packages from squeeze repository. |
| 18:04.19 | damasceno | :} |
| 18:04.30 | qwd | no, testing gives you squeeze |
| 18:04.34 | Bushmills | !sid |
| 18:04.34 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 18:05.04 | Bushmills | !squeeze |
| 18:05.05 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. Ask me about <wwsr> for recent updates and see also <testing> <squeeze udev> <squeeze kernel> <lenny->squeeze> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze . The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
| 18:05.29 | damasceno | Oh, yes i'm wrong. |
| 18:05.36 | damasceno | Squeeze was freeze. |
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| 18:06.08 | delby | so, is there a difference? |
| 18:06.10 | damasceno | delby, sorry for the wrong information. |
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| 18:06.23 | damasceno | delby, i did not test this yet. |
| 18:06.35 | qwd | delby: no, sid=unstable |
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| 18:08.47 | delby | ok lets make this a general question. at the moment, in sources.list stable=lenny testing=squeeze and unstable=sid and therefore will give me the same results? |
| 18:09.48 | qwd | delby: correct, however you need to be careful with using testing for example since that will eventually become wheezy. so if you want squeeze that's what you need to use. unstable or sid doesn't matter since unstable is always called sid. |
| 18:10.20 | delby | qwd: gotcha. thanx a lot :) |
| 18:12.04 | razieliyo | !buddy |
| 18:12.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, buddy is a smart bot or a dumb human who has been around thestuff.net for a while. He still wonders if Laura still has feelings for him... :) |
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| 18:21.34 | rindolf | Hi all. Why does the debian-500 installer tells me it is retrieving and installing 21 files? I specifically forbade it from using a networked mirror. |
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| 18:23.19 | ayeee | Hi. Is it possible to, in any way, to assign ip-addresses for different SSH users. E.g "user1" can only use 123.123.123.11 for outbound traffic, and "user2" can only use 123.123.123.12? |
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| 18:24.07 | ayeee | I can ofcource listen on both ip-addresses - but I also want to assign/force ip-address to a specific user. |
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| 18:25.36 | nirazio | What does this command do?? "Acquire::BrokenProxy=true update" |
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| 18:32.22 | doublehp | how do i make work "tap" on my Alps touchpad ? i made it working 1h ago, and after reboot, stopped :( just ran dpkg-reconfigure x11-common if it matters |
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| 18:33.10 | amphi | doublehp: how did you make it work? with synclient? |
| 18:33.24 | doublehp | amphi: if i knew ... |
| 18:33.33 | amphi | heh |
| 18:33.51 | amphi | did you try synclient? |
| 18:35.22 | doublehp | amphi: before of after starting x ? |
| 18:35.28 | doublehp | gpointer thing did not help |
| 18:35.37 | amphi | after, I would think |
| 18:37.37 | doublehp | it asks me options |
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| 18:43.25 | Sorinan | I'm trying to build squid with dpkg-buildpackage, but after the compilation, it says that some docs are missing, and because this can't create the package. I'm doing something wrong? |
| 18:44.01 | Sorinan | gzip: debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/squid/RELEASENOTES.html: No such file or directory (there's a lot of errors like this, but all related to docs) |
| 18:46.09 | nirazio | What does this command do?? "Acquire::BrokenProxy=true update" |
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| 18:46.58 | greedo | I appear to have broken python |
| 18:47.05 | greedo | I get /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-ldap.postinst: /usr/bin/pycentral: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 18:48.15 | greedo | I believe this occurred after removing /usr/local/bin/python |
| 18:48.38 | greedo | is there anyway to restore that file? |
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| 18:54.37 | jhutchins_lt | greedo: Just copy it over from your system backup. |
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| 18:58.28 | G_SabinoMullane | How can I install a very old version of a package? I need to get postgresql-8.1 alongside a new server that already has 8.4. packages.debian.org does not show 8.1 anymore. |
| 19:01.07 | jhutchins_lt | !snapshot |
| 19:01.07 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 19:01.28 | JasonWoof | why does chromium think pdf files could harm my computer? |
| 19:01.44 | G_SabinoMullane | thx |
| 19:01.58 | jhutchins_lt | JasonWoof: pdf files can contain malicious macros. |
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| 19:04.02 | G_SabinoMullane | jhutchins_lt: Any hints on searching that site? Both source and binary search boxes give plenty of 'postgresql' hits, but not 8.1 oddly enough (jumps from 7.5 to 8.2) |
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| 19:04.27 | jhutchins_lt | 8.1 may never have been packaged for Debian - that happens. |
| 19:04.50 | G_SabinoMullane | Definitely packaged, I have boxes still using it! :) |
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| 19:05.00 | G_SabinoMullane | Ah...found it. postgresql-8.1 works, but postgresql does not |
| 19:05.03 | Azrael_- | hi, i have a raid5-partition with 4 disks. if i replace one, start the machine up again and restart the machine 2-3 times without waiting for the first rebuild to finish. what will happen? |
| 19:05.09 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions postgresql |
| 19:05.10 | judd | Package postgresql on i386 -- etch: 7.5.22; etch-backports: 8.3.9-0lenny1~bpo40+1; lenny: 8.3.12-0lenny1; lenny-security: 8.3.12-0lenny1; squeeze: 8.4.5-0squeeze2; sid: 8.4.5-1; lenny-backports: 8.4.5-2~bpo50+1; sid: 8.4.5-2; sid: 9.0.1-1; sid: 9.0.1-2 |
| 19:05.11 | G_SabinoMullane | Wonder why it only shows those particular matches? |
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| 19:05.30 | yaaar | howdy |
| 19:06.16 | jhutchins_lt | G_SabinoMullane: Dunno, it claims to be a comprehensive archive. |
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| 19:10.44 | yaaar | so, i've got a lenny server with a linux software raid mirror, and overnight I got a notification that it had a failure. i figured i'd just remove the device and re-add it and see what happens (works a fair percentage of the time on the hardware controllers I've used). so i did 'mdadm /dev/md0 -r /dev/sda1' which removed it ok...but then 'mdadm /dev/md0 -a /dev/sda1' fails with "mdadm: add... |
| 19:10.46 | yaaar | ...new device failed for /dev/sda1 as 2: Invalid argument" ...is that just telling me the drive is hosed? or am i doing something wrong? |
| 19:12.11 | ZeuZ | Anyone with KVM routing experience? |
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| 19:17.31 | frostschutz | yaaar: should work, what's /proc/mdstat say? |
| 19:18.11 | yaaar | frostschutz: http://pastebin.com/cJz6bTym |
| 19:18.25 | frostschutz | ZeuZ: just ask the question? |
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| 19:19.18 | Bushmills | ZeuZ: statistically, most probable |
| 19:19.33 | Mac101 | hi, was just wondering the corrent way to install java on debian5 32 (dont want to go following the long old guides if i can somehow just use the repos)/ |
| 19:19.41 | Mac101 | correct* |
| 19:19.47 | Mac101 | ?* |
| 19:20.04 | pipeline | Mac101: add non-free to sources.list, install sun-java6-jdk |
| 19:20.12 | yaaar | frostschutz: i also tried with --verbose --add instead of just -a ...but got the same output. also note when looking at that mdstat that i do have 2 raid 1 devices, using different partitions of the same 2 drives. didn't bother to mention that originally because they both failed and are both behaving the same way |
| 19:20.29 | pipeline | yaaar: mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 |
| 19:20.41 | pipeline | yaaar: possible that /dev/sda is no longer a valid block device though |
| 19:20.48 | pipeline | yaaar: you'll probably have to reboot in order to get the drive back online |
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| 19:21.09 | yaaar | pipeline: same output when i phrase the command the way you suggest |
| 19:21.13 | frostschutz | yaaar: command should work if the disk is fine and partitions of identical size and all |
| 19:21.21 | yaaar | hmm |
| 19:21.27 | Mac101 | pipeline, whats the different between sun-java6-jdk & sun-java6-jre? |
| 19:21.39 | yaaar | so should i reboot and try it again? or should i just buy a drive? |
| 19:21.48 | pipeline | Mac101: one is the jdk, the other is the jre |
| 19:21.54 | pipeline | Mac101: jdk is a superset of jre |
| 19:22.08 | frostschutz | yaaar: what does smartctl say for sda, does file -s /dev/sda1 work, is the partition size identical? (blockdev --getsize /dev/sda1, sdb1) |
| 19:22.20 | Mac101 | java runtime environment = jre |
| 19:22.30 | Mac101 | but hmm not sure what you mean by superset |
| 19:22.40 | yaaar | i get "/dev/sda1: ERROR: cannot read `/dev/sda1' (Input/output error)" from file -s /dev/sda1 |
| 19:22.56 | frostschutz | that's your problem then |
| 19:23.05 | Mac101 | o dev kit |
| 19:23.08 | Mac101 | n/m |
| 19:23.34 | yaaar | smartctl fails immediately too |
| 19:25.09 | frostschutz | sounds like hardware failure, unless it's got some squabble with the controller |
| 19:25.46 | KB1JWQ | In /etc/network/interfaces, what's the purpose of allow-hotplug eth0? |
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| 19:30.54 | stew | KB1JWQ: "ifup --allow=hotplug eth0" will only bring up eth0 if there is that line |
| 19:31.06 | stew | KB1JWQ: i'm not sure what if anything is using this these days |
| 19:32.45 | KB1JWQ | stew: So I can safely pull it? |
| 19:33.30 | KB1JWQ | http://pastebin.com/tqHb3vFR is what I had before, with some interesting behaviors. |
| 19:34.15 | KB1JWQ | Restart networking, it had the static IP. A few hours later, boom-- over to the dynamic range the box went. |
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| 19:35.36 | delby | hi. i am running squeeze and sometimes need package from sid. i have squeeze and unstable in sources.list. i included ' Package: * Pin: release n=sid Pin-Priority: 1' in /etc/apt/preferences, but only that, with no reference to squeeze. then i am intending to use 'aptitude -t unstable install foo' when i want to install a package from sid. is that the correct way to make sure everything... |
| 19:35.38 | delby | ...remains squeeze apart from when i use -t unstable? |
| 19:36.11 | stew | KB1JWQ: yes, you can pull it. note that it might be filling in for "auto eth0" so if you don't have that, you probably want it |
| 19:36.18 | Sorinan | It's already safe upgrade to squeeze? i have a server in a small company, isn't critical mission or anything, what do you recommend? (there's some functions on squeeze that I want) |
| 19:36.19 | ewet | hi, is there a howto for setting up a debian (squeeze) system with gdm and vnc? I want to set it up so that it only listens on localhost and you have to tunnel... |
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| 19:37.15 | ewet | there's a lot of different stuff in the web already but it doesn't sem to fit my system config |
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| 19:39.21 | ewet | I thought since I'm using "Xvnc -inetd -query localhost" in indetd.conf it would already only listen on localhost but I can still access it.. |
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| 19:39.32 | KB1JWQ | stew: Yeah, I misunderstood that file. |
| 19:39.44 | KB1JWQ | I've fixed it some, but I still don't get why it takes up a DHCP address hours later. :-) |
| 19:39.53 | KB1JWQ | stew: Any idea where else I should look at? |
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| 19:42.11 | sigmonsays | Is there a dpkg --get-selections taht dumps current version of packages? |
| 19:42.16 | sigmonsays | or should I just use dpkg -l ? |
| 19:44.28 | Bushmills | there is apt-show-versions |
| 19:44.43 | bzed | and apt-cache policy |
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| 19:45.07 | KB1JWQ | (And yes, this is Debian Lenny) |
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| 19:46.55 | ewet | no ideas? |
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| 19:48.13 | pinkisntwell | is it possible to configure the sensitivity of the mouse? i'm talking about the acceleration |
| 19:50.15 | delby | anyone? |
| 19:50.28 | pipeline | pinkisntwell: it's possible to alter mouse acceleration but I can't tell you how |
| 19:50.46 | pinkisntwell | pipeline: i didn't ask about the acceleration |
| 19:51.48 | cga | [20:48] <pinkisntwell> is it possible to configure the sensitivity of the mouse? i'm talking about the acceleration |
| 19:52.56 | pinkisntwell | cga: sorry! i meant to say "I'm not talking about the acceleration" |
| 19:53.00 | cga | eh |
| 19:53.17 | pinkisntwell | my problem is that my mouse goes way too fast when it's not accelerated, i.e. when it's within the threshold |
| 19:54.29 | pinkisntwell | is that configurable, and if not, how come? it seems such a basic setting |
| 19:55.12 | cga | don't really know sorry. i use debian only on server |
| 19:55.15 | KB1JWQ | Had to kill dhclient; it was still running. |
| 19:56.38 | doublehp | how do i make work "tap" on my Alps touchpad ? i made it working 1h ago, and after reboot, stopped :( just ran dpkg-reconfigure x11-common if it matters |
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| 20:06.03 | KaffeeJunky123 | I've a bug with mplayer on squeeze, it'll segfault on anything but if I run the mplayer command with strace it'll work fine |
| 20:06.04 | tharkun | KB1JWQ: auto eth0 and eth0 inet static do not mix well comment the auto part and you are all set |
| 20:09.17 | h3sp4wn | Is there a reason that pvgrub is not build from the Debian Xen sources ? |
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| 20:10.36 | stew | tharkun: what? do not mix well? why not? is there a bug filed? |
| 20:11.02 | stew | tharkun: i probably have this on 90% of my machines |
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| 20:12.42 | KaffeeJunky123 | jeeez mplayer is trying to make me go insane |
| 20:12.57 | KaffeeJunky123 | when I'm firing it up in gdb it'll work as well |
| 20:13.49 | tharkun | stew: I had a bunch of on and off problems like thhe ones KB1JWQ is describing, i got rid of them when i commented the auto eth0 stanza on all of them. I never investigated deep enough to find the cause or why it was only on certain machines and not all of them. |
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| 20:19.25 | KB1JWQ | tharkun: I tried that, but when I bounced networking eth0 didn't come up until I put auto eth0 back in. |
| 20:19.42 | KB1JWQ | The issue I was having in any case was that dhclient was running. |
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| 20:22.46 | jhutchins_lt | "auto" should mean "automatically bring this up at boot" - as opposed to "leave it to network manager". |
| 20:22.53 | jhutchins_lt | allow hotplug is another option. |
| 20:23.14 | jhutchins_lt | Both should allow either static or DHCP configuration. |
| 20:23.31 | j4son | im getting poor write speeds via the ciss0 driver and I'm wondering if there's anything obvious I can check? -- http://pastebin.com/skhuYJXq |
| 20:23.32 | jhutchins_lt | KB1JWQ: Did you have it set for DHCP at some point? |
| 20:24.03 | j4son | err crap |
| 20:24.04 | j4son | wrong chan |
| 20:26.27 | tharkun | KB1JWQ: Strange i never came up with that problem. I will take a look into it at this momment |
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| 20:27.45 | SuperAlekZ | hi |
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| 20:28.53 | neckti3 | noob here. can anyone help me with this tutorial? http://www.serverhostingsecrets.com/tutorials/ubuntucentos-pptpd-howto/ i'm on the last step. i need to enable ip forwarding |
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| 20:29.08 | SuperAlekZ | need to create an ftp user with a secure ftp program who is only able to view, access, read, write (not execute) and delete files in only one directory and its sub-directories |
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| 20:29.19 | SuperAlekZ | oh and yeah.. partial noob here <- |
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| 20:31.03 | abrotman | what did you think would happen if an ftp user would execute a script over ftp ? |
| 20:31.13 | abrotman | !permissions |
| 20:31.13 | dpkg | For information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions', http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html . For further information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and follow the setuid and setgid links within. See also <ssh permissions>, <qotd232>. http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
| 20:31.23 | jordanm | SuperAlekZ: install vsftpd, add a system user, add the configuration chroot_local_user=YES |
| 20:31.37 | jordanm | abrotman: I have seen that proftpd has a very insecure "mod_exec" |
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| 20:31.49 | abrotman | which does what? |
| 20:31.53 | jordanm | abrotman: http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/modules/mod_exec.html |
| 20:32.15 | abrotman | jordanm: but it executes scripts during the ftp process ? |
| 20:32.15 | jordanm | "The mod_exec module can be used to execute external programs or scripts at various points in the process of handling FTP commands." |
| 20:32.19 | jordanm | yes |
| 20:32.24 | abrotman | "By conscious design, ProFTPD does not and will not execute external programs." |
| 20:32.37 | qwd | SuperAlekZ: you might also want to check out sftp with openssh. |
| 20:32.59 | SuperAlekZ | is the user more limited with openssh or more free? |
| 20:33.48 | SuperAlekZ | jordanm: so basically wget vsftpd - create a regular debian system user - change config? |
| 20:33.56 | abrotman | jordanm: i could see it being useful .. somewhat |
| 20:34.05 | jordanm | SuperAlekZ: wget is not debian's package manager |
| 20:34.16 | SuperAlekZ | apt-get install |
| 20:34.17 | SuperAlekZ | sorry ;) |
| 20:35.04 | qwd | SuperAlekZ: I'm guessing it's similar, but sftp will probably be more secure. and it's encrypted. |
| 20:35.17 | jordanm | abrotman: I couldn't come up with an use-cases that could not be replaced by a 1min interval cron |
| 20:36.09 | jordanm | SuperAlekZ: yes, IIRC chroot_local_user=YES will jail them to their $HOME by default |
| 20:36.32 | SuperAlekZ | nice 8) |
| 20:36.33 | SuperAlekZ | thanks |
| 20:36.37 | SuperAlekZ | thanks for both suggestions |
| 20:36.43 | SuperAlekZ | guess i'm gonna try vsftpd first |
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| 20:44.14 | abrotman | jordanm: without going through everything .. you could do some advanced logging |
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| 20:48.16 | SuperAlekZ | noob question, because i forgot it and can't find a proper simple tutorial: how do i define a home-directory for a user that i added? |
| 20:48.42 | SuperAlekZ | i don't want it to be /home/username/, but /home/gameserver/portblabla |
| 20:48.58 | h3sp4wn | usermod |
| 20:49.11 | jordanm | SuperAlekZ: usermod -d /foo/bar user |
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| 20:50.16 | jez9999 | I have 2 packages installed on my Debian; postgresql, and postgresql-8.4. I'm guessing one is a dupe, which one do I probably want to keep and which do I probably want to remove? |
| 20:50.18 | SuperAlekZ | jordanm: alright thanks, but why "user" at the end? :o |
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| 20:51.08 | jelly-hme | jez9999: you can leave both. Inspect the Description and Installed-Size of both. |
| 20:51.10 | abrotman | because that's the username |
| 20:51.15 | abrotman | man usermod .. read for yourself |
| 20:51.25 | jelly-hme | jez9999: dpkg -s packagename |
| 20:51.26 | SuperAlekZ | oh user meant username.. sorry hehe |
| 20:52.01 | jordanm | !tell jez9999 about cross-post |
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| 20:54.53 | jez9999 | the installed-size? |
| 20:55.00 | jez9999 | what am i looking for? equality? a difference? |
| 20:55.55 | jelly-hme | jez9999: one of those packages is very small. |
| 20:56.06 | jez9999 | yep, postgresql |
| 20:56.24 | jelly-hme | jez9999: /msg dpkg metapackage |
| 20:57.16 | SuperAlekZ | jordanm: where can i do that config thingy with chroot_local_user=YES now? :S |
| 20:57.39 | SuperAlekZ | and does this remove the users permission to execute files? |
| 20:58.04 | jordanm | SuperAlekZ: set their shell to /bin/false so they can' |
| 20:58.12 | jordanm | err can't login any other way |
| 20:58.27 | jordanm | that configuration belongs in the config file for vsftpd |
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| 20:59.08 | jez9999 | so why doesnt, say, openoffice have a metapackage? |
| 20:59.11 | SuperAlekZ | alright, hm |
| 20:59.26 | SuperAlekZ | what's the command for setting the shell to /bin/false? :S |
| 20:59.37 | jordanm | jez9999: it does IIRC |
| 21:00.02 | jordanm | jez9999: yep, the "openoffice.org" package is a meta |
| 21:00.43 | jez9999 | i dont have that package on my system |
| 21:00.47 | jez9999 | but openoffice is installed |
| 21:01.05 | jordanm | the meta package is not required. it just makes things easier |
| 21:01.25 | jez9999 | ah ok |
| 21:01.35 | mike3 | i'm having an issue with gnome. I've just installed gnome but gnome-settings-daemon keeps crashing. I can't even manually start it. it will still crash. |
| 21:01.54 | jordanm | mike3: is it segfaulting? what version of debian? |
| 21:02.00 | mike3 | squeeze |
| 21:02.03 | SuperAlekZ | jordanm: what's the command? :P |
| 21:02.18 | SuperAlekZ | found something like "su - <username> c" but that sounds like.. stupid lol |
| 21:02.32 | jordanm | SuperAlekZ: usermod again. reference the manpage, its a valuable skill |
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| 21:02.45 | mike3 | jordanm: squeeze |
| 21:02.57 | jordanm | mike3: is it segfaulting? what error do you get? |
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| 21:03.35 | wizardslovak | hi people |
| 21:03.38 | SuperAlekZ | wow nice, didn't know that "man usermod" was meant as a command |
| 21:03.42 | SuperAlekZ | linux is f*cking nice :D |
| 21:03.58 | wizardslovak | SuperAlekZ, ++ |
| 21:03.59 | mike3 | no it's not segfaulting. I'm getting the following. "The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error. |
| 21:04.15 | mike3 | And the following. "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings'daemon'. |
| 21:04.31 | jordanm | mike3: anything related in ~/.xsession_errors? |
| 21:04.31 | SuperAlekZ | wizardslovak: ++ ? :D |
| 21:04.45 | jordanm | SuperAlekZ: he aggrees |
| 21:04.48 | mike3 | and "Details: serial 2834 error_code 3 request_code 20 minor_code 0) |
| 21:04.53 | SuperAlekZ | oh alrighty 8) |
| 21:04.56 | mike3 | jordanm: let me look |
| 21:05.02 | wizardslovak | SuperAlekZ, i just agree with u |
| 21:05.13 | mike3 | jordanm: i'm running this trhough vnc. |
| 21:05.15 | wizardslovak | just got a question |
| 21:05.15 | mike3 | through vnc |
| 21:05.18 | SuperAlekZ | hehe :P |
| 21:05.22 | wizardslovak | anyone running debian on vbox? |
| 21:05.29 | jordanm | !anyone |
| 21:05.29 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 21:06.01 | legis | anyone use debian? |
| 21:06.15 | jelly-hme | !anyone |
| 21:06.15 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 21:06.21 | mike3 | jordanm: i'm using it through vnc. So i have no files by that name in my home directory. |
| 21:06.29 | legis | :P |
| 21:06.33 | SuperAlekZ | oh so it's usermod -s /bin/false username jordanm ? :) |
| 21:06.43 | jordanm | mike3: check the BTS/file a bug. sounds like a bug from your short description |
| 21:06.51 | jordanm | SuperAlekZ: yes |
| 21:06.53 | SuperAlekZ | yay :P |
| 21:06.54 | mike3 | jordanm: I'm sorry, what? |
| 21:06.59 | jordanm | !bts |
| 21:06.59 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
| 21:07.15 | SuperAlekZ | i like how people always help other people in IRCs like #debian, #lighttpd and #wordpress hehe |
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| 21:07.22 | mike3 | i've seen several bug reports on simliar things.. |
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| 21:07.54 | jordanm | mike3: you might want to check and make sure they are not waiting for more feedback or logs from the user that you can provide |
| 21:08.31 | h3sp4wn | Is there any users here of grub-coreboot (Got one of the gigabyte boards thats suitable) but I dunno if it can boot xen yet |
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| 21:10.20 | SuperAlekZ | btw jordanm is vsftpd by default only allowing only that user to view the files on my server? or can everybody now see them :o |
| 21:10.25 | wizardslovak | how different are commands from ubuntu and debian? |
| 21:10.46 | mike3 | jordanm: hrm.. the other option I have is to install KDE. :) |
| 21:10.50 | qwd | wizardslovak: not different. |
| 21:11.27 | wizardslovak | ub is based on debian , so commands are the same right? |
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| 21:13.28 | nirazio | How do I create an encrypted (password protected) zip file? |
| 21:14.05 | Spurgeon | wizardslovak, most are the same... |
| 21:14.09 | qwd | nirazio: open seahorse and create a gpg key, then encrypt the file with that |
| 21:14.10 | wizardslovak | ok |
| 21:14.24 | Spurgeon | is running debian. |
| 21:14.33 | qwd | nirazio: or use someone elses public key to encrypt it if you're planning on sending it to someone |
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| 21:15.07 | Spurgeon | i tried ubuntu a few times.. but got annoyed by some stupid things. |
| 21:15.23 | Spurgeon | like the way how ubuntu handles bash-completion |
| 21:15.31 | nirazio | how to create a gpg key and how to encrypt the file with that key??? |
| 21:15.34 | wizardslovak | well i am using ubuntu |
| 21:15.40 | wizardslovak | with xfce |
| 21:15.45 | wizardslovak | and ubuntu server hehe |
| 21:15.54 | wizardslovak | but i want to give a try to debian |
| 21:15.58 | wizardslovak | as server and desktop |
| 21:16.00 | Spurgeon | nothing wrong with that |
| 21:16.13 | Spurgeon | but suit what you like |
| 21:16.15 | Spurgeon | ;) |
| 21:16.23 | qwd | nirazio: open seahorse and press "help" |
| 21:16.25 | wizardslovak | well i dont have high requirements |
| 21:16.42 | wizardslovak | 2 websites and ps3media server |
| 21:16.43 | wizardslovak | thats it |
| 21:16.59 | wizardslovak | i tried email server but didnt have luck |
| 21:17.07 | wizardslovak | ill give a try in debian |
| 21:17.11 | wizardslovak | maybe ill be lucky |
| 21:17.24 | SuperAlekZ | qwd: when i try to login @ ftp it shows unable to login :( |
| 21:17.33 | Spurgeon | ;) i hope so |
| 21:17.47 | Spurgeon | nirazio, zip -e |
| 21:18.22 | qwd | SuperAlekZ: I don't use ftp so I can't help you. |
| 21:18.22 | Spurgeon | zip -(e)ncrypt |
| 21:18.31 | SuperAlekZ | damn :S |
| 21:18.35 | nirazio | Spurgeon: what?? |
| 21:18.58 | Spurgeon | <nirazio> How do I create an encrypted (password protected) zip file? |
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| 21:19.03 | Spurgeon | zip -e |
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| 21:20.05 | nirazio | Spurgeon: I wanna encrypt and then zip it with a password.. |
| 21:20.39 | Spurgeon | The file gets encrypted and will be protected with a password |
| 21:20.51 | pikaro | hi folks! quick question - i'm running sidux on an hp pavillion laptop, which has multimedia keys built in as a touchpad and treated as a usb device. unfortunately, these tend to get suck, constantly generating keystrokes, which is why i would like to disable the device. can anyone point me to resources that would tell me how to identify the device or hub and how to disable it? thanks in advance! |
| 21:20.59 | pikaro | *stuck |
| 21:21.02 | Spurgeon | zip -e ( the -e is for encryption ) |
| 21:22.09 | Spurgeon | try typing: zip --help in your console ... |
| 21:22.12 | SuperAlekZ | jordanm: still there? |
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| 21:23.06 | Spurgeon | pikaro, you mean like in blacklisting the device? |
| 21:23.30 | pikaro | jup |
| 21:23.45 | Spurgeon | do you know the name of the device? |
| 21:23.56 | Spurgeon | dmesg | grep <device> |
| 21:25.08 | pikaro | nope, that's the problem. lsusb doesn't identify it, and dmesg shows no messages that would help. i only figured it was an usb device as sometimes, dmesg tells me an usb hub could not be recognized, and then the keys won't work. |
| 21:26.04 | Spurgeon | maybe you should take a look at irc.debian.org channel - debian or debian-bugs ;) |
| 21:26.18 | pikaro | alright, thanks! |
| 21:26.29 | Spurgeon | np |
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| 21:37.15 | Number6 | Hi there. I'm installing php5-cgi (and cgi only, if possible) as per http://blog.no-panic.at/2007/01/26/installing-php5-cgi-on-debian/ and running into a few problems. |
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| 21:39.48 | doublehp | how do i make work "tap" on my Alps touchpad ? i made it working 1h ago, and after reboot, stopped :( just ran dpkg-reconfigure x11-common if it matters |
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| 21:41.21 | Number6 | Do I edit my apache.conf to have Alias /php5-cgi /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5 Action php5-cgi /php5-cgi ? |
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| 21:45.23 | cafuego | can I ask why you would choose to use the cgi version? |
| 21:45.44 | Number6 | cafuego: Just do, I'd prefer the permissions |
| 21:46.01 | cafuego | that makes no sense to me, but oh well |
| 21:46.14 | Number6 | I've been able to load in the PHP5 - but for some reason it won't run pages |
| 21:48.17 | Number6 | Got it, those instructions were horrible! |
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| 21:49.06 | SuperAlekZ | anyone who could help me with vsftpd? |
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| 21:56.34 | dkr | what app can read vcard data? I found a package that converts "2vcard" but not the other way |
| 21:57.05 | dkr | I guess I can write some perl. heh libtext-vcard-perl |
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| 22:06.45 | LemensTS | Is there a way to make an installable iso from a current configured debian install? |
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| 22:09.08 | dkr | !tell LemensTS about fai |
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| 22:11.03 | LemensTS | Thx |
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| 22:13.33 | Lars_G | Question, is there any advantage to a 64 Bit kernel other than accessing over 4Gb of ram? something that I think pae in i386 mode can do anyhow..... |
| 22:13.58 | gandhijee | hey, is there anyway to change the respawn time? |
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| 22:25.48 | Tekk_ | !dpkg mkisofs |
| 22:25.48 | dpkg | genisoimage is a utility for creating ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images, replacing mkisofs since Etch (the mkisofs transitional package was removed post-Lenny). Install the cdrkit-doc package to provide additional documentation. One-liner: genisoimage -R /master/tree | wodim -v fs=6m speed=2 dev=2,0 - |
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| 22:26.17 | Lars_G | Ah sweet, the netboot.tar.gz for ia64 doesn't have a pxe image |
| 22:26.26 | hardcode | !dpkg specialppl |
| 22:26.31 | streuner_ | dpkg, ia64 |
| 22:26.31 | dpkg | [ia64] (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>. |
| 22:27.02 | streuner_ | Lars_G: are you sure you have a ia64? |
| 22:27.05 | Lars_G | meh so an i3 is amd64... |
| 22:27.10 | Lars_G | streuner_: Yeah I think I don't |
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| 22:28.19 | tq | #join #ubuntu |
| 22:28.58 | streuner_ | /join #ubuntu |
| 22:29.08 | streuner_ | forget # |
| 22:29.48 | streuner_ | Lars_G: doesnt i3 use intel nowadays? |
| 22:30.34 | Lars_G | streuner_: i3 is an intel, but afaik it's 64 so it must be amd64 |
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| 22:30.46 | streuner_ | hm |
| 22:30.52 | streuner_ | dpkg, amd64 |
| 22:30.52 | dpkg | amd64 is, like, the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The amd64 architecture also supports running i386 Debian with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. core2duo machines are amd64. See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>. |
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| 22:32.58 | itchi | They just messed all up about these arch namings. For an intel computer, install amd64... say that to a noob... |
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| 22:33.29 | hardcode | is it possible to build a k7-450 kernel? |
| 22:33.44 | streuner_ | not really |
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| 22:34.05 | streuner_ | k6/k7 kernels are past, nowadys they are supported by i386 |
| 22:34.10 | streuner_ | dpkg, k7 |
| 22:34.10 | dpkg | somebody said k7 was the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the AMD64, X2, FX, Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. Just use a 686 kernel as k7 kernels are out, see <k7 dropped>. |
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| 22:34.36 | hardcode | yeah.. just cuz they are i386 now.. i swear it worked better in the early 2k |
| 22:36.02 | hardcode | i guess if i had 50 chips i was going to cluster it might be worth it to get the extra machine instructions optimized... i can see why the community doesnt deal with the .. lol anyone remember those cyrix |
| 22:36.07 | hardcode | !dpkg cyrix |
| 22:36.08 | dpkg | well, cyrix is a make of cheap proccesors, for those who can't afford Intel or AMD. The current Cyrix MIIs are slower then their Intel and AMD counterparts. See also Rise.. Now aquired by via, the cyrix processor no longer exists |
| 22:36.17 | hardcode | YES! |
| 22:36.21 | streuner_ | sure |
| 22:36.38 | Lars_G | btw the cyrix at some point had their L2 disabled by default |
| 22:36.41 | streuner_ | Cyrix was on the low cost end, but they were just, ehm, stable... |
| 22:36.43 | Lars_G | you had to enable it, to get a boost |
| 22:37.01 | hardcode | is it hard unlocking the new amd x2 blks |
| 22:37.23 | streuner_ | Cyrix CPUs were a nightmare, but just stable and they live looonggg |
| 22:37.31 | hardcode | is it worth the heat to unlock something with no L1.. and i still dont get.. do they steal some l2 or only the l3 |
| 22:37.32 | m3tti | why does my debian testing i386 usb stick doesn't work ??? |
| 22:37.48 | m3tti | i've to download the vmlinuz file and the initrd.gz |
| 22:37.59 | m3tti | and install syslinux with a config file |
| 22:38.37 | m3tti | but if i install everything tasksel doesn't have all stuff that is on cd1 |
| 22:39.04 | hardcode | im talking about amd phenom i believe |
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| 22:39.07 | m3tti | like gnome there is only webserver, basic tools and don't know |
| 22:39.41 | hardcode | man apt-get? |
| 22:39.47 | dvs | m3tti: because you need the corresponding iso file too |
| 22:40.28 | m3tti | dvs: the iso is also in the root of the usb stick |
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| 22:42.34 | bloodcry | m3tti: Just use unetbootin. |
| 22:43.03 | dvs | m3tti: did you configure a network connection |
| 22:43.12 | m3tti | no |
| 22:43.56 | m3tti | no to dvs question |
| 22:43.56 | dvs | m3tti: configuring your network will allow you to download packages over the internet |
| 22:43.56 | kingsley | What's a good IRC channel to find out which motherboards can use a lot of RAM? |
| 22:44.20 | m3tti | dvs: i know but i've thought i could install a default install with gnome without internet |
| 22:44.22 | streuner_ | ##hardware? |
| 22:44.46 | streuner_ | ##hardware 168 NO IDIOTS ALLOWED! THIS MEANS YOU! ~ channel is logged publicly. irseek.com and possibly others ~ Welcome to the computer hardware support channel  ~ Don't ask to ask ~ Don't ask for a yes/no answer ~ Ask your question, you will be answered eventually ~ paste > 4 lines? Please use pastebin.ca ~ |
| 22:44.56 | dvs | m3tti: I don't think the first CD would be enough. The first DVD would. |
| 22:45.00 | streuner_ | hehe, very friendly topic :-) |
| 22:45.26 | dvs | streuner_: hmmm... we could use the beginning part. ;-) |
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| 22:46.18 | streuner_ | dvs: the linux community is sometimes hard ;-) |
| 22:47.01 | streuner_ | dvs: some other channels just kick you, if you going to ask a wrong question :-) |
| 22:47.18 | dvs | o_O |
| 22:48.13 | streuner_ | its at leas a warning, thats somehow fair for the first beginning :-) |
| 22:48.19 | streuner_ | least* |
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| 22:48.39 | dvs | no help for you! *click* |
| 22:49.01 | hardcode | i learned you shoulnt the n word in slackware |
| 22:49.15 | romel | hi guys. which type of partition tables is default for debian installation? |
| 22:49.31 | streuner_ | hardcode: you shouldnt do that in ANY linux channel... |
| 22:49.49 | hardcode | honestly, ignoramous is way to long of a word for me |
| 22:49.50 | m3tti | n word??? |
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| 22:50.08 | dvs | linux channel? any channel! |
| 22:50.17 | streuner_ | m3tti: some rassist word... |
| 22:50.21 | BLZbubba | does anyone else get some sort of weird African language in the default firefox install? |
| 22:50.25 | streuner_ | dvs: true |
| 22:50.31 | m3tti | oh ok |
| 22:50.45 | streuner_ | romel: 82? |
| 22:50.48 | hardcode | yeah.. its a word.. ppl have been trying to get other to admit still exists.. but it keeps getting repressed like that.. song that is also offtopic buy the black eyed peas... lets get it started.. even though you know you should act a fool at a party |
| 22:50.56 | m3tti | i've iceweasel BLZbubba ;-) |
| 22:51.06 | m3tti | but i'll check |
| 22:51.20 | m3tti | no nothing here |
| 22:51.20 | hardcode | its a hate word.. it aint racist hah |
| 22:51.34 | hardcode | lol.. did i mention i like it here? |
| 22:51.39 | dvs | m3tti: what I do is create two partitions on a USB key. A small 256MB one for the image and syslinux files, and a larger than 4GB one for the DVD iso image. |
| 22:52.10 | streuner_ | romel: 82=linux, 83=linux-swap |
| 22:52.43 | m3tti | i've done that setup just like this 3 months ago and it worked well i think there was something wrong with the initrd.gz cause it doesn't search for the iso file |
| 22:53.39 | kingsley | streuner_: I'll check it out. |
| 22:53.53 | dvs | the initrd.gz and iso file must "match". |
| 22:54.29 | m3tti | so i need the initrd.gz from exactly the same server ? |
| 22:54.42 | m3tti | maybe that was my fault |
| 22:54.50 | romel | streuner_: I meant partition table type (i.e. msdos/bsd/ etc) |
| 22:55.09 | dvs | m3tti: the same server would help, but a similar timestamp would be a lot better. |
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| 22:55.57 | streuner_ | romel: you usually use 82 for a Debian installation, and thats Linux |
| 22:56.21 | streuner_ | romel: sorry, but what do you mean exactly? |
| 22:56.44 | m3tti | any recomendations how to test if it work |
| 22:56.45 | dvs | romel: you want an msdos partition table for a PC. |
| 22:56.46 | tharkun | Gentlemen, sorr to bother. I have this isue. For some reason my ISP blocked/firewalled my entire ip. How feasable is it ot make an ssh tunnel to a vps so any contact to that vps is redirected to the proper server. Any ideas on how to achieve this? |
| 22:57.09 | romel | dvs: thanks |
| 22:57.13 | dvs | np |
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| 23:00.26 | funyun | my autocomplete is not working for my user. if i type cd, then tab, i get "-sh: <( compgen -d -- '' ): No such file or directory". there's an easy fix but i forget the command. does anyone know it? |
| 23:01.32 | itchi | tharkun: Stop spamming the world?? |
| 23:02.34 | bloodcry | re 15mins ago: maybe we should just not chat in chat :\ |
| 23:03.34 | itchi | funyun: Are you sure your bash config is ok? Seems weird to me this issue |
| 23:04.18 | itchi | funyun: At least, there are no errors or issues that shows up when you just type bash in a terminal? |
| 23:05.09 | funyun | itchi: possibly not. i'm a noob. but i had this problem before. and iirc, it began because when i created the user, i forgot to add a command to useradd. and i think the fix had the word bash in it |
| 23:05.35 | funyun | itchi: nope. no other errors |
| 23:05.51 | itchi | funyun: i dunno what happen there |
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| 23:06.27 | funyun | itchi: ahh, that was it. i typed bash and now it's fixed. thanks :) |
| 23:06.55 | itchi | funyun: You didn't specify a login shell?? but wonder that the machine react this way |
| 23:07.25 | funyun | itchi: ahh. nvm. when i type bash. it works afterwards. but then i typed exit. and tried from scratch. and i get the same error |
| 23:07.26 | itchi | funyun: ok wait, define your shell for that problematic user |
| 23:07.30 | itchi | funyun: chsh |
| 23:08.27 | itchi | funyun: And after entering your passwd at -> Login Shell [/bin/bash]: |
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| 23:09.49 | funyun | itchi: alright. i'm at Login Shell [/bin/sh]: |
| 23:10.38 | itchi | funyun: dash is used for system shell, so set there Bash, much more interesting for users |
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| 23:11.24 | funyun | itchi: not sure i understand. do i type Bash at Login Shell [/bin/sh]: ? |
| 23:11.45 | itchi | funyun: no heh :) /bin/bash |
| 23:11.49 | SuperAlekZ | why does my ftp always show 311? :(( |
| 23:12.16 | bloodcry | SuperAlekZ: 311? |
| 23:12.31 | SuperAlekZ | 311 please specify a password :( it's vsftpd |
| 23:12.45 | bloodcry | You don't mean 331? |
| 23:12.48 | funyun | itchi: okay. now it's working. thanks :) |
| 23:13.07 | itchi | funyun: No problem, you are welcome :) |
| 23:13.31 | SuperAlekZ | bloodcry: you are right 8) |
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| 23:14.34 | tharkun | itchi: On some other day i would laugh out of my chair, today is not a good day. Have you got an idea on how to help me. |
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| 23:15.31 | SuperAlekZ | bloodcry: any suggestion? |
| 23:15.49 | bloodcry | tharkun: set up a vpn |
| 23:15.55 | bloodcry | SuperAlekZ: Other than giving it a password, nup. |
| 23:16.28 | SuperAlekZ | but what exactly do i have to give a passwd? |
| 23:16.34 | itchi | tharkun: Well, other than sugesting to contact your ISP and ask for informations... no i can't help you much. If your IP is banned, then you probably did somethings very wrong |
| 23:16.42 | huglester | Hello everyone! I'm using squeeze on the ext4 partition and I'm trying to run my custom kernel. however..the kernel does not have initramfs. My system is not bootable with a new kernel. Any ideas if it might be initramfs issue? |
| 23:16.46 | bloodcry | SuperAlekZ: well, you're connecting to an FTP server, right? |
| 23:16.49 | itchi | tharkun: Or you are in a fucking country who hits already if you just watch porno |
| 23:16.58 | SuperAlekZ | that's correct, vsftpd |
| 23:17.04 | bloodcry | SuperAlekZ: You've given a username during the connection. Have you given a password as well? |
| 23:17.29 | bloodcry | SuperAlekZ: Or are you connecting anonymously? |
| 23:17.58 | SuperAlekZ | yep username and password |
| 23:18.05 | SuperAlekZ | nope anonymous is set to "no" |
| 23:18.23 | bloodcry | You're sure the password is correct? And the user is permitted to log in? |
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| 23:19.05 | SuperAlekZ | well the password is pretty simple hehe |
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| 23:19.17 | SuperAlekZ | hm.. yes he should be, how can i check this? |
| 23:19.42 | bloodcry | Sorry mate, I've got nothing then. |
| 23:19.51 | SuperAlekZ | :D |
| 23:19.59 | SuperAlekZ | alright thanks anyways |
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| 23:22.49 | dvs | huglester: dud you run update-initramfs? |
| 23:23.07 | dvs | *did |
| 23:23.28 | tharkun | bloodcry: any suggestions on the vpn? |
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| 23:25.57 | itchi | tharkun: openvpn just rocks |
| 23:26.30 | itchi | tharkun: Very easy to setup, very stable and easy to use, what need we more :) |
| 23:26.58 | itchi | oh yeah, it's also very secure, if you do the job right |
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| 23:29.18 | alpha^ | What is the standard practice of maintaining linux user->SELinux user relationships? I'm just learning more about RBAC and how I would deploy it in my architecture with our LDAP |
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| 23:30.47 | sphenxes | I have a very low sound and my mic recording is also very low (squeeze-debian, my sound card is (on boar): 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01 |
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| 23:31.25 | cusco | hi |
| 23:31.53 | cusco | ls: cannot access /dev/random: No such file or directory |
| 23:31.54 | itchi | sphenxes: did you adjust the volume? :) |
| 23:31.57 | cusco | what can I do about that? |
| 23:32.38 | neckti3 | i'm following a tutorial on how to setup a VPN using pptpd. but i can't figure out how to change MTU to 1400. can anyone help me? here's the tutorial link http://www.serverhostingsecrets.com/tutorials/ubuntucentos-pptpd-howto/ |
| 23:32.46 | itchi | cusco: That's with a custom kernel? |
| 23:32.54 | sphenxes | itchi, sure |
| 23:33.29 | cusco | itchi: well I think so its xen |
| 23:33.33 | cusco | yea its custom |
| 23:33.34 | cusco | :| |
| 23:33.48 | cusco | 2.6.18-194.11.4.el5xen |
| 23:33.55 | itchi | cusco: Was that not a module to build in or to load? |
| 23:33.57 | ggggbabybabybaby | How many days |
| 23:34.20 | cusco | itchi: sorry I did not understand |
| 23:34.56 | cusco | what module provides /dev/random? |
| 23:34.57 | itchi | cusco: Well, i'm not sure about what i talk in my last message :) |
| 23:35.22 | cusco | my base problem is not enough entropy |
| 23:38.23 | cusco | so... |
| 23:38.25 | cusco | what can I do? |
| 23:38.28 | itchi | It's long time ago i din't looked back in the kernel stuff lol |
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| 23:38.59 | itchi | nowadays i just use stock kernels, they are very cool, but with that we loose the fun of exploring lol |
| 23:39.27 | cusco | its not really my option, this is a vps my brother got, im trying to help him out |
| 23:39.34 | itchi | cusco: i found on the web how to make it with mknod but i guess it's not the way to go |
| 23:39.35 | cusco | I find it cool taht is xen rather than virtuozzon |
| 23:39.54 | cusco | itchi: it is since I don't have access to the real kernel :p |
| 23:40.32 | cusco | I do have a /dev/urandom however |
| 23:40.44 | itchi | cusco: See what i found, but don't trust it: http://markus.revti.com/2007/12/creating-devrandom/ |
| 23:41.18 | cusco | thanks |
| 23:41.25 | huglester | dvs, not really.. I'm supposed to run update-initramfs before restarting to new kernel, right? |
| 23:41.27 | jhutchins_lt | Every once in a while you run square up against the fact that a virtual machine is not a machine. |
| 23:42.04 | neckti3 | i'm following a tutorial on how to setup a VPN using pptpd. but i can't figure out how to change MTU to 1400. can anyone help me? here's the tutorial link http://www.serverhostingsecrets.com/tutorials/ubuntucentos-pptpd-howto/ |
| 23:42.14 | jhutchins_lt | huglester: If it's a debian kernel dpkg should have run it for you; otherwise yes. |
| 23:42.47 | huglester | jhutchins_lt, thanks. will try now |
| 23:42.49 | jhutchins_lt | neckti3: No need to repeat. If someone knows, they'll answer. |
| 23:43.08 | jhutchins_lt | neckti3: The option files are in /etc/ppp/ |
| 23:43.30 | jhutchins_lt | neckti3: It will run without setting an ideal mtu. |
| 23:43.47 | neckti3 | jhutchins_lt: ya. i added ifconfig $1 mtu 1400 |
| 23:43.55 | neckti3 | but it is still not changed |
| 23:44.18 | jhutchins_lt | neckti3: That's because you need to change it in /etc/ppp/<something> |
| 23:44.39 | neckti3 | jhutchins_lt: where should i change it? |
| 23:44.47 | neckti3 | nvm, i read that wrong |
| 23:45.17 | neckti3 | jhutchins_lt: i added it to /etc/ppp/ip-up |
| 23:45.37 | jhutchins_lt | Probably should be in options rather than up. Without the ifconfig. |
| 23:46.02 | jhutchins_lt | That or in a host-specific conf file. |
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| 23:47.18 | neckti3 | jhutchins_lt: so i should add it to another file? |
| 23:47.57 | jhutchins_lt | http://wiki.debian.org/PPPoE |
| 23:48.13 | neckti3 | jhutchins_lt: this is what i have in ppp "chap-secrets ip-down ip-down.d ip-up ip-up.d ipv6-down ipv6-down.d ipv6-up ipv6-up.d options pap-secrets peers pptpd-options" |
| 23:48.38 | jhutchins_lt | http://poptop.sourceforge.net/dox/debian-howto.phtml |
| 23:48.54 | jhutchins_lt | http://poptop.sourceforge.net/dox/debian-howto.phtml |
| 23:48.58 | jhutchins_lt | Wherps. |
| 23:49.21 | jhutchins_lt | http://pigtail.net/nicholas/pptp/ |
| 23:50.45 | neckti3 | jhutchins_lt: will those fix the mtu problem? i've set up the VPN following the current tut. but there are certain sites i cannot access due to mtu being 1444 instad of 1400 |
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| 23:56.08 | neckti3 | jhutchins_lt: i think my problem is that none of these files have the exit 0 line that the tutorial refers to |
| 23:56.20 | neckti3 | jhutchins_lt: am i supposed to add it? |
| 23:57.58 | romel | does the packet exists which contains everything needed for compiling stuff from sources? like gcc and such |
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