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| 00:11.56 | bolt | what's that program that logs all commands run on a system to the syslog? |
| 00:12.16 | bolt | can't remember its name :( |
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| 00:18.21 | bolt | oh. snoopy. which isn't in squeeze? |
| 00:18.27 | bolt | judd: versions snoopy |
| 00:18.28 | judd | Package snoopy on i386 -- etch: 1.3-13; lenny: 1.3-15 |
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| 00:23.21 | bolt | :( |
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| 00:29.21 | poisonbit | bolt, sight |
| 00:29.44 | poisonbit | i use it, bad news |
| 00:30.13 | bolt | yeh :( |
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| 00:30.31 | bolt | apparently, a depencendy, ld.so or something, is gone |
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| 00:31.08 | bolt | http://packages.debian.org/sid/snoopy |
| 00:31.14 | poisonbit | It's very useful during holidays, because some sysadmins like to clean the oper history after shit-ing |
| 00:31.49 | bolt | it's very useful at all times. especially when used together with remote logging |
| 00:33.30 | jelly-home | replacement sysadmins? |
| 00:33.59 | jhutchins_lt | contract-ends-with-calendar-year admins? |
| 00:34.06 | poisonbit | something like |
| 00:34.48 | jelly-home | more auditing is always nice |
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| 00:37.21 | poisonbit | it seems like mantained: http://sourceforge.net/projects/snoopylogger/files/ |
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| 00:38.44 | gkahla | I'm running squeeze, and trying to change exim4 to use Maildir. the debianwiki version is using an old version of exim. is there a new write-up for exim4? |
| 00:39.08 | yngve | /exi/exit |
| 00:39.15 | bolt | poisonbit: it is. it's just that the dependencies are gone |
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| 00:39.40 | bolt | poisonbit: i replied to this thread, hoping something will happen https://sourceforge.net/projects/snoopylogger/forums/forum/28724/topic/4016526 |
| 00:40.43 | poisonbit | good luck and thanks for taking time on it bolt |
| 00:42.14 | bolt | poisonbit: hopefully the developer wants to find a solution. currently, it seems it can't even be installed manually, judging by the first post in that thread. if that's fixed, it might be possible to get it maintained in debian again |
| 00:42.29 | gkahla | ah - found it! |
| 00:42.42 | stew | snoopy was removed with "functionality available in another package" |
| 00:42.55 | stew | judd: versions auditd |
| 00:42.57 | judd | Package auditd on i386 -- lenny: 1.7.4-1; sid: 1.7.13-1+b2; squeeze: 1.7.13-1+b2 |
| 00:43.03 | bolt | ooh! |
| 00:43.06 | bolt | takes a look |
| 00:43.19 | stew | (this is the bug for the removal: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587515 ) |
| 00:43.25 | bolt | "functionality available in another package"... |
| 00:43.29 | bolt | that could remove a whole lot |
| 00:43.31 | poisonbit | great news |
| 00:43.44 | stew | bolt: well, "and this one doesn't work" |
| 00:43.55 | bolt | stew: that adds a bit to it, yes :) |
| 00:44.20 | jhutchins_lt | "functionality available in another package" is what linux is all about. |
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| 00:44.57 | poisonbit | mmm it seems that auditd does much more things that snoopy |
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| 00:47.45 | poisonbit | but, does auditd log to syslog at all ? |
| 00:47.58 | poisonbit | else it's not the same functionality, does ? |
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| 00:49.11 | GinTonic | hheelllloo !everyone |
| 00:50.16 | GinTonic | "apt-get update"cann't connect to the sources ,how can i do ? |
| 00:50.54 | Shadow` | check your sources? |
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| 00:51.38 | GinTonic | first ,,,the sources is all right !!!! the sources is ok!!!!! |
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| 00:52.42 | stew | GinTonic: use a pastebin to show us the exact output |
| 00:52.54 | GinTonic | any other sources cann't be connected . "apt-get update" always show: failed to fetch or not found .....etc |
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| 00:53.16 | GinTonic | OK ,wait please ,thank you guys |
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| 00:54.50 | GinTonic | http://paste.debian.net/103125/ |
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| 00:55.54 | stew | GinTonic: are you behind a proxy? |
| 00:56.03 | stew | GinTonic: the urls that it is saying are 404 are not actually 404 for me |
| 00:56.44 | GinTonic | how can i know whether i am using a proxy or not ? |
| 00:56.53 | bolt | poisonbit: i'm trying to make it do that right now :) |
| 00:56.55 | stew | ask your network administrator? |
| 00:58.15 | GinTonic | no network administrator ,just only me using debian right now! |
| 00:58.55 | jordanm | if its your network and you did not configure a proxy, then no |
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| 00:59.23 | GinTonic | i mean ,it works well about one week ago, when i update debian to testing ,it's wrong |
| 01:00.04 | jhutchins_lt | GinTonic: Can _you_ connect to the servers? |
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| 01:00.16 | jhutchins_lt | GinTonic: You're getting 404 (not found), not can't connect. |
| 01:00.30 | jhutchins_lt | GinTonic: Your sources file looks ok, so it could be an update glitch on the mirror. |
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| 01:01.06 | jhutchins_lt | GinTonic: I also note that you're using http to connect to at least one ftp server. |
| 01:01.07 | GinTonic | i can browse those servers with firefox |
| 01:01.10 | balleyne | how can I tell why apt-get is keeping certain packages back when I run apt-get upgrade? |
| 01:01.32 | jhutchins_lt | balleyne: aptititude why-not <package> |
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| 01:02.43 | stew | balleyne: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 01:03.48 | balleyne | jhutchins_lt stew: thanks! |
| 01:04.13 | Aenigma | hi, I'm trying to set up LVM + dm-crypt but after the install I got no bootloader even though I installed grub2. I had sda1 as windows, sda2 as /boot, and sda3 the physical encryption block containing LVM which contained /, /home and swap. |
| 01:04.23 | Aenigma | is this not possible for some reason? |
| 01:04.31 | GinTonic | jhutchins_lt: the mirrors i am using is all right ,i think, because i using those mirrors on another PC yestoday |
| 01:04.47 | GinTonic | yestoday evning |
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| 01:07.22 | GinTonic | apt-get cann't work, aptitude cann't work, and the synaptic on desktop |
| 01:07.22 | GinTonic | all these cann't get packages from mirrors |
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| 01:08.21 | phogg | check firewall settings, check network connectivity |
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| 01:09.18 | GinTonic | how and where ,which file should i check and config ? |
| 01:09.52 | tbsaunde | GinTonic: try pinging something like google or 4.2.2.1 |
| 01:10.22 | tbsaunde | GinTonic: are you connected to the internet? |
| 01:10.30 | GinTonic | i can ping internet! |
| 01:10.51 | GinTonic | sure ,i can browse internet ,and login pidgin |
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| 01:11.30 | tbsaunde | GinTonic: what configuration you need to look at depends on how you connecttothe internet |
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| 01:13.27 | GinTonic | i connect to internet by configing pppoeconf, need name and password |
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| 01:29.15 | Saar | does anyone know what's the command to download and reinstall every package installed, using the current configuration files? |
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| 01:29.39 | Saar | i remember there is one or 2 commands that would do that |
| 01:30.03 | stew | Saar: aptitude reinstall '~i' |
| 01:30.47 | Saar | thank you |
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| 01:36.42 | acu | any headless install advice ? |
| 01:37.14 | Shadow` | aptitude? |
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| 01:40.28 | Saar | ack i get this: E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on bash |
| 01:40.28 | Saar | A package failed to install. Trying to recover: |
| 01:40.45 | Saar | something fishy going on |
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| 01:41.37 | stew | Saar: is this on jaunty? |
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| 01:42.29 | GinTonic | guys guys,help me please |
| 01:42.31 | stew | acu: have a look at "/msg dpkg preseed" or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetworkConsole |
| 01:42.41 | fonzi | can't access localhost, can't even ping it, after a recent upgrade. what's the problem? |
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| 01:42.43 | stew | Saar: can you show us the entire command and all the output in a pastebin? |
| 01:42.44 | GinTonic | i cann't do "apt-get update" |
| 01:43.06 | GinTonic | http://paste.debian.net/103125/ |
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| 01:43.24 | GinTonic | here the pastebin |
| 01:44.11 | stew | GinTonic: what happens if you try one of those 404 urls in a regular browser? |
| 01:44.15 | mycae | Q: I am trying to modify a broken "control" file in a deb - Its a printer driver, so I don't have the source. I just need to remove a wrong depends from the control.tar.gz, but I can't seem to un-tar it from the command line |
| 01:44.29 | mycae | tar -zxvf control.tar.gz just prints ./ then exits |
| 01:44.53 | GinTonic | the browser start to download the files |
| 01:45.00 | mycae | inside file-roller there is a folder ".", which contains the control file -- I can't seem to extract, modify then recompress whilst preserving this arch |
| 01:45.29 | bolt | poisonbit: it can |
| 01:45.34 | mycae | any hints? I can't create "." in my filesystem (already exists)... |
| 01:45.38 | bolt | poisonbit: the logs are quite a bit more messy though |
| 01:46.10 | zcat[1] | Trying to access Huawei IDEOS U8150 from debian. It's supposed to just appear as a USB drive, which is does but I can't open it .. double click does nothing. dmesg says it's been identified as a CDROM drive, and doesn't have any readable tracks |
| 01:46.53 | zcat[1] | obvious google searches don't seem to help either |
| 01:47.15 | mycae | zcat: try looking up switchusb.. I had a huawei device that needed a USB control command to flick its mode... |
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| 01:47.25 | mycae | from mass storage to modem |
| 01:47.48 | stew | GinTonic: can you put the output of "apt-config dump" into a pastebin? |
| 01:48.16 | mycae | or maybe "usbswitch" |
| 01:48.27 | GinTonic | let me try it ,wait for me please |
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| 01:50.15 | mycae | zcat[1]: ah, its "usb-modeswitch" |
| 01:50.20 | GinTonic | http://paste.debian.net/103127/ |
| 01:50.28 | zcat[1] | http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/usb-modeswitch-1.1.6.tar.bz2 -- found it ;) |
| 01:50.33 | GinTonic | STEW, can you see that ? |
| 01:50.45 | mycae | there is a package already in the archive. |
| 01:51.06 | zcat[1] | mycae: ahh, good .. |
| 01:52.05 | stew | GinTonic: yes, but I don't see the problem |
| 01:53.05 | GinTonic | is there some file like "apt.conf" in directory of /etc/apt on your PC |
| 01:53.30 | stew | sure |
| 01:53.51 | GinTonic | no the file on my PC |
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| 01:54.02 | ruser | What was the successor to NURBS? |
| 01:54.12 | zcat[1] | OK, now I can't figure out how to use it ... |
| 01:54.58 | GinTonic | what are the contents ,would you please do a pastebin? |
| 01:55.24 | stew | GinTonic: the contents of my apt.conf? |
| 01:55.59 | GinTonic | yes |
| 01:56.09 | stew | its empty |
| 01:56.18 | stew | what do you want from my config? |
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| 01:57.40 | GinTonic | i want to see if my problem is about to the file |
| 01:57.43 | mycae | ruser, what successor -- nurbs is still used. The maths didn't suddenly die. |
| 01:57.48 | GinTonic | http://paste.debian.net/103128/ |
| 01:58.04 | stew | GinTonic: i'm looking at yours, and its fine. the only real places it could have been massed up are if you had a proxy configred or if you had something funky in Apt::Acquire perhaps |
| 01:59.08 | acu | stew et al - I have a system for I can have a VGA card to begin with - but then I have to remove it - and I would like to be able to connect and work both from cli or gui - I will use ssh for cli and xvnc for gui - however I want to know what is the best way to do it - I am going to use Debian Squeeze AMD 64 |
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| 01:59.55 | acu | what I wanted to say - is that if initially I install gnome and then take the vga card - the system halts |
| 02:00.17 | Saar | stew: lenny, moment |
| 02:00.45 | GinTonic | a proxy ? how can i check whether i am using it or not ? |
| 02:02.05 | GinTonic | how to check Apt::Acquire ,where is the file ? |
| 02:02.32 | Saar | stew: http://pastebin.com/fCpi6yxW |
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| 02:03.10 | Saar | i suspect some file corruption happened somewhere because spome perl thing is not running the way it should |
| 02:03.30 | Saar | since there are about 600 per modules i figured to reinstall everything |
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| 02:07.04 | mycae | ok. so I can extract a .deb into its components now... Apparently decompressing with file-roller is bad. But I can't join it back together, whilst preserving that leading ./ folder... |
| 02:07.11 | jon8 | i setup debian on my laptop using vmware.. over the network, i can ping other computers and i can ping the vmware installation of debian while its running.. however i get connection refused when i'm trying to connect to the vmware machine using an ssh client from another pc |
| 02:07.13 | jon8 | any idea? |
| 02:08.12 | jon8 | sshd is running too btw.. its default config file after using, apt-get install openssh-server |
| 02:08.54 | jon8 | i'm able to access the outside world, as well from the vmware debian installation |
| 02:09.09 | jon8 | and like i said i'm able to ping other pc's on my LAN ..TO AND FROM the vmware debian installation |
| 02:09.23 | jon8 | so the connectivity for the vmware debian installation is 100%, both on LAN and INTERNET |
| 02:09.46 | mycae | use ssh's debugging features. (-v) |
| 02:10.15 | jon8 | /etc/init.d/sshd start -v ? |
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| 02:10.34 | jon8 | i'm not sure how that would help me solve, 'connection refused', though.. |
| 02:11.17 | mycae | then check your iptables. |
| 02:12.04 | jon8 | iptables isnt even installed. :( |
| 02:12.17 | jon8 | no firewall is installed atm.. |
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| 02:13.02 | Arrowmaster | mycae: use this http://paste.debian.net/103130/ |
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| 02:14.09 | jhutchins_lt | GinTonic: You know it's not DNS or any connection problem because you can reach and browse the servers manually. |
| 02:14.28 | jhutchins_lt | GinTonic: My bet is that they had a glitch during an update and the indexes didn't get regnerated properly. |
| 02:15.04 | jhutchins_lt | GinTonic: That happens. Wait until the site has been in normal work hours for a while and try again. |
| 02:15.23 | jhutchins_lt | (Normal work hours local-to-the-site) |
| 02:16.09 | zcat[1] | I give up, just going to load the samn phone up from a windows box... |
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| 02:16.31 | mycae | Arrowmaster, thats gold. |
| 02:17.03 | gaintsura | anyone know of a screenlet, desklet or similar to have totem [when open] running in a small window on all workspaces? |
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| 02:21.39 | mycae | gaintsura, On xfce and gnome you can just right cick the title bar and set it to show on visible workspace. |
| 02:21.56 | mycae | I think you can kill the window decs too somehow.. not so sure about that. |
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| 02:27.02 | GinTonic | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.17 | GinTonic | jhutchins_lt: |
| 02:27.29 | zcat[1] | well that worked great. Under Windows it comes up as TWO drives.. a CDROM which doesn't do anything useful and a USB drive that apparently has no media in it |
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| 02:34.49 | xindz | Just got fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda3 when i tried to creat a encrypted volym in truecrypt, Who can i fix that ? |
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| 02:35.31 | cast | can i suggest cryptsetup instead of truecrypt |
| 02:35.48 | cast | and if sda3 is encrypted, then sda3 is ciphertext...ergo fsck should fail on it |
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| 02:36.37 | xindz | why cryptsetup insted of truecrypt ? |
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| 02:37.27 | Aenigma | xindz: truecrypt isn't usually used for internal drives |
| 02:37.52 | xindz | Ok, is cryptsetup advanced to setup ? |
| 02:38.32 | Aenigma | I messed up doing an install with it, but it's theoretically fairly easy to do |
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| 02:39.27 | Aenigma | are you doing a fresh install or are you going to do it internally? |
| 02:39.28 | cast | xindz: cryptsetup is much more widely used and supported |
| 02:39.34 | matt8686 | I tried to install mplayer under Debian(aptitude install mplayer -y). The problem is, that there are two unmet dependencies("Depends: libdirectfb-1.0-0 which is a virtual package." and "Depends: ttf-bitstream-vera which is a virtual package."). So I downloaded libdirectfb-1.0-0 manually from here: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libdirectfb-1.0-0 and installed it. However, as I compiled it from source code, aptitude is not aware, that it's act |
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| 02:40.00 | xindz | Aenigma Freshinstallation |
| 02:40.05 | xindz | Its a VM |
| 02:40.33 | cast | matt8686: line got cut off, i tend to install mplayer from debian multimedia, you could create a dummy package so aptitude things its installed, or you could create a real .deb |
| 02:40.43 | cast | s/things/thinks |
| 02:41.32 | Aenigma | xindz: yeah, it's easy. the cryptography support is in the partition manager thing. instead of selecting a filesystem you just select "physical volume for encryption", go through the new option, make a filesystem and you're done |
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| 02:41.57 | xindz | Nice |
| 02:45.07 | matt8686 | cast: ..So I downloaded libdirectfb-1.0-0 manually from here: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libdirectfb-1.0-0 and installed it. However, as I compiled it from source code, aptitude is not aware, that it's actually installed. Is it somehow possible to teach aptitude, that I have libdirectfb-1.0-0 installed? |
| 02:45.22 | matt8686 | cast: ok, I'll search about this dummy package option :) |
| 02:45.25 | cast | why are you downloading things manually |
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| 02:47.09 | xindz | Aenigma so i choose Guided - Use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM instead of Manual ? |
| 02:47.30 | cast | you could, if you want it to be automagic |
| 02:48.35 | Aenigma | no |
| 02:48.41 | Aenigma | xindz: use manu_hack |
| 02:48.53 | Aenigma | ..manual. long day |
| 02:49.10 | cast | looks for a lightweight animated gif viewer |
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| 02:50.20 | Aenigma | cast: does fbi do animated gifs? |
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| 02:50.44 | cast | dunno, |
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| 03:08.41 | acu | do I need grub for a future headless system ? - now I have a vga card which I am going to remove |
| 03:08.47 | cast | yes, you do |
| 03:08.56 | cast | or at least, something like grub |
| 03:09.00 | xk | do any systems boot without graphics card? |
| 03:09.06 | cast | yes, they do |
| 03:09.18 | xk | which ones? |
| 03:09.29 | acu | xk: facebook has 300000 servers without vga cards :) |
| 03:09.31 | cast | my router comes to mind |
| 03:09.54 | xk | keyword: "future headless" |
| 03:09.54 | fonzi | after d recent upgrade of Squeeze, which includes kernel changes, i cannot hotplug my adsl modem. have to do a 'dhclient eth0' to connect to the Net. what's the problem here? |
| 03:09.55 | acu | 30k |
| 03:10.13 | acu | :) |
| 03:10.58 | xk | let me rephrase: do any systems that use a graphics card, will those work without a graphics card? :> |
| 03:13.07 | fonzi | yes, old system which only display monochrome texts. |
| 03:13.26 | cast | i believe so |
| 03:13.30 | fonzi | they don't need graphics card. |
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| 03:14.07 | fonzi | remember rs-232-c and dumb terminal? |
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| 03:24.15 | hyppie | i want too buy a server,can i put fedora 14 pc,will it work?/ |
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| 03:26.58 | xk | why would you want to put fedora on it |
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| 03:27.55 | hyppie | windows sucks |
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| 03:29.39 | hyppie | i know fedora a little/its stable? |
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| 03:35.57 | hyppie | will fedora 14 work on a server>its going to cost me $800. |
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| 03:38.45 | hyppie | i here Debian is really Good |
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| 03:39.19 | hyppie | just remember im stupid |
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| 03:40.57 | soneal97 | Hey guys. Sorry for asking what is likely a very frequently asked question, but I've just installed Debian and am wondering how I can get HAL to allow users to mount NTFS (USB) drives. I can do it as root, of course, but have no idea how to change those permissions |
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| 03:42.06 | jon8 | Any idea why doing, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree .. installs and sets up without any errors, but when trying to view a flash video such as something on youtube.com, there is no video or audio playback? |
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| 03:43.57 | acu | jon8 - do you use squeeze ? |
| 03:44.07 | jon8 | i have no idea what squeeze is :( |
| 03:44.28 | acu | what version of debian do you use |
| 03:44.55 | jon8 | debian-507-i386-netinst.iso is the image i used to install debian with |
| 03:44.55 | acu | is tough to do anything in total darkness |
| 03:44.58 | acu | :) |
| 03:45.53 | jon8 | the web is so flash based now days, it really amazes me that webbrowsers don't just come with adobe flash player to be honest with ya |
| 03:45.56 | acu | oh - I see - you have the stable 5.0 (Lenny) - I use testing from debian-installer (that is called squeeze - and flash-plugin works there) |
| 03:46.05 | xk | flash is the worse thing ever made |
| 03:46.18 | jon8 | acu so what can i do, to get it to function? :\ |
| 03:46.25 | acu | jon8: there is a royalty price using proprietary software |
| 03:46.26 | xk | uses 100% cpu, whether you have an ancient pentium 2, or a uber quad core. |
| 03:46.48 | jon8 | xk, playback of flash on my quad core in windows7 doesnt use 100%.. |
| 03:46.49 | soneal97 | I had that problem a while ago, actually. Same thing. Flash didn't work until I downloaded the .so from the website and placed it in the plugin folder myself |
| 03:46.58 | acu | html5 will alleviate some of the needs - even now you can use chrome or firefox latest and go to html5 instead of normal |
| 03:47.30 | xk | jon8: i dont care about flash defenders |
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| 03:47.41 | jon8 | xk right now i'm watching a flash video on youtube, have mirc open, firefox, some RDC connections and a few other things running and my quad core is only usage is at 8% |
| 03:47.55 | acu | however debian squeeze (testing) works with flashplugin-nonfree (of course you need to enable non-free repository) in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:48.54 | acu | jon8 that does not mean that you know what is flash :) there is strong evidence that this is a hog |
| 03:49.05 | xk | and it crashes like fuck |
| 03:49.10 | xk | i can get it to crash firefox on a daily basis |
| 03:49.17 | jon8 | hey hey, i'm not an advicat for flash |
| 03:49.19 | jon8 | i would just like to use it :) |
| 03:50.18 | acu | jon8: squeeze works with flash-plugin non-free - or you can use chrome or latest firefox and do youtube html5 (there is no advertising on that either) double whammy :) |
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| 03:51.31 | jon8 | ok |
| 03:51.53 | jon8 | wait, youtube html5? how do i do that? :o |
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| 03:52.34 | acu | just to a http://www.youtube.com/html5 |
| 03:52.54 | jon8 | k |
| 03:52.56 | jon8 | ty |
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| 03:56.09 | acu | welcome |
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| 03:57.13 | hyppie | flash drive,may not be that great,i trust the old fashion drive more |
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| 05:48.36 | nirazio | I have a poster I would like to print. It is far larger than a single sheet of paper that can fit in my printer. What is a program that I can use to print it out on separate sheets of paper (to assemble later)? |
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| 05:57.18 | Coweater | nirazio: posterazor might be suitable |
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| 05:59.23 | Coweater | it's not in lenny though, darn |
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| 06:26.20 | mrkotfw | Hello everyone. |
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| 06:31.45 | t3a | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 06:32.03 | t3a | why is it reported? I never got this either. |
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| 06:36.17 | kandinski | I am trying to remove exim4 completely with aptitude remove and rm -rf /etc/exim4 so I can reinstall it, but when I do that the exim4.conf.template doesn't show up. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 06:36.28 | mrkotfw | t3a: It'll be reported to root |
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| 06:40.32 | peterrooney | dpkg: confmiss |
| 06:40.32 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>. |
| 06:41.26 | mrkotfw | Are there any tutorials on how to have XMonad darcs and Debian testing play nice? |
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| 06:41.34 | peterrooney | kandinski: aptitude is not exactly a superset of apt-get |
| 06:42.34 | homie | hey |
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| 06:43.52 | t3a | mrkotfw: where do i read these reports, and if they have the root password why does it matter? |
| 06:44.27 | mrkotfw | t3a: Look in /etc/sudoers |
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| 06:47.40 | kandinski | peterrooney: thanks for the learnin'! |
| 06:48.29 | peterrooney | kandinski: I always use apt-get --purge remove <pkg> when done trying something out |
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| 06:57.07 | kandinski | peterrooney: even with -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss", apt-get complains: "Error: Unsplit config selected and /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template missing ... exiting" |
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| 07:00.25 | kandinski | am caught in reinstall limbo |
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| 07:01.55 | folklore2 | hi |
| 07:01.57 | sporedi | is there any command in debian to check packages installed and thier dtls like rpm -qa ,rpm -ql |
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| 07:02.54 | folklore2 | good question |
| 07:04.22 | nirazio | Can I use apt-get or aptitude to install software to non default location? |
| 07:04.29 | arvind_khadri | sporedi, dpkg -l |
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| 07:04.55 | sporedi | ok thanks |
| 07:05.12 | N2Deep | or dpkg --list | grep <package> |
| 07:05.44 | arvind_khadri | nirazio, yes you can, read the man page of apt-get |
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| 07:07.38 | sporedi | ok |
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| 07:47.05 | nirazio | I have configured vsftpd as my FTP server..When i check my FTP server it always takes me to my home directory..Instead of /srv/ftp..This is my configuration http://pastebin.ca/2027940 |
| 07:47.23 | nirazio | can anyone help me pls.. ^ ^ |
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| 07:52.43 | Seta | Hey! When i have a software that requests links like: http://aaa.aa/a can i configure my server to forward those requests to http://bbb.bb/b ? |
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| 07:54.47 | Seta | :( |
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| 07:57.53 | Seta | Pleaaaaaase give me an answer, today is Christmas :( |
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| 08:04.42 | OpenTokix | Seta: yes, just make a page with a redirect |
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| 08:06.42 | nsadmin | Seta: direct answer to your question (and no more, no less): yes |
| 08:06.54 | Seta | ^^ |
| 08:07.48 | Seta | i cant make a pake, the request is hardcodet and closed-source :( it loads some images from there server, but i want to load them from my server... and dont know how... |
| 08:07.57 | Seta | pake = page* |
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| 08:08.50 | nsadmin | oh. you do not control http://aaa.aa? |
| 08:09.07 | Seta | nope only http://bbb.bb |
| 08:09.11 | nsadmin | then, no. |
| 08:09.29 | Seta | Direct and simply, no? without any maybe or something? |
| 08:10.11 | Seta | I really doing nothing bad, its just an Mod for Minecraft xD |
| 08:10.33 | nsadmin | you have nothing to do with aaa.aa, you don't own aaa.aa as a domain, you don't control the machine at the IP of aaa.aa? |
| 08:10.55 | nsadmin | (the answer to my question is the -final- answer to yours) |
| 08:11.26 | Seta | no, but i control the maschine which sends the requests... are you sure that isnt enough? |
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| 08:12.20 | nsadmin | you might be able to change the requests that come from YOUR machine |
| 08:12.26 | nsadmin | but NOT any others |
| 08:12.34 | i5noc | whats this? |
| 08:12.52 | Seta | thats what i want! |
| 08:12.55 | nsadmin | "this" is a pronoun |
| 08:13.03 | i5noc | lmfao |
| 08:13.06 | i5noc | Seta, dude |
| 08:13.15 | i5noc | just define dns for that domain as yours and your done |
| 08:13.30 | nsadmin | he doesn't own the domain |
| 08:13.33 | i5noc | ya wat nsadmin said |
| 08:13.52 | i5noc | nsadmin, well, there is the chance of polluting dns but thats another room's convo, and probably another net :P |
| 08:13.59 | i5noc | (not advised) |
| 08:14.20 | Seta | so i maybe can setup my own DNS where i own the Domain? |
| 08:14.34 | i5noc | you can point a domain you own anywhere you want |
| 08:14.47 | i5noc | godaddy and such have nice cheap .info's |
| 08:15.05 | i5noc | a buck or two usually |
| 08:15.12 | Seta | i think you start following this conversation to late xD |
| 08:15.34 | nsadmin | he does have scroolbars |
| 08:16.11 | Seta | maybe he dont use ir? ... but ok i understand what i have to do!! |
| 08:17.08 | nsadmin | well if you put up a name server that says it's auth over aaa.aa, the servers that count won't believe it |
| 08:17.08 | zz5-ux | Seta: did you consider putting bbb.bb in the /etc/hosts file so it resolves locally to aaa.aa ? |
| 08:17.17 | i5noc | nsadmin, what do you mean by scroolbars |
| 08:17.29 | i5noc | zz5-ux, he wants to pollute the dns of another persons site |
| 08:17.38 | i5noc | lol |
| 08:17.38 | i5noc | more or less |
| 08:17.47 | Seta | zz5-ux: you think that could work? |
| 08:18.02 | i5noc | only for the computer you put it in |
| 08:18.07 | nsadmin | i5noc them are the thingys you push n pull so you can scrool back and look at earlier irc content :) |
| 08:18.11 | i5noc | that's what i said you could do minutes ago :P |
| 08:18.12 | Seta | katschinga xD |
| 08:18.20 | i5noc | o |
| 08:18.25 | i5noc | @me |
| 08:18.27 | i5noc | lmfao |
| 08:18.33 | zz5-ux | Seta: if a connecting system has bbb.bb listed in /etc/hosts and the /etc/nsswitch.conf specified files are checked before dns, then yes it will redirect it without going to dns |
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| 08:23.16 | nsadmin | what I'm not understanding yet is how aaa.aa requests go to machine with bbb.bb address |
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| 08:26.21 | nsadmin | but what he wants sounds something like a proxy |
| 08:26.27 | zz5-ux | if aaa.aa is listed in the hosts file with the ip address of bbb.bb then the requests from software to aaa.aa would be then going to bbb.bb |
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| 08:28.16 | zz5-ux | proxy is another way, firewall is another way, running local dns server is another way |
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| 08:29.09 | nsadmin | ok, so bbb.bb is running software that does like wget |
| 08:29.44 | nsadmin | and it does similar to wget http://aaa.aa/someAthing.html |
| 08:30.19 | nsadmin | then /etc/hosts would probably be the most efficient |
| 08:30.40 | nsadmin | in that case it would wget to itself? |
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| 08:30.59 | nsadmin | hmm. still not understanding the purpose. |
| 08:31.25 | i5noc | lol |
| 08:31.42 | i5noc | nsadmin, purpose of what? |
| 08:31.49 | i5noc | the redirect? |
| 08:31.57 | i5noc | me either, not enough info - o well |
| 08:32.15 | nsadmin | or what purpose this whole thing serves (well yeah, I guess the redirect) |
| 08:32.23 | zz5-ux | purpose of hosts method is to bypass dns process, windows has a hosts file also |
| 08:32.32 | i5noc | zz5-ux, no not your explanation |
| 08:32.45 | i5noc | the reasoning behind wazzizface's desire to do this in the first place :) |
| 08:32.52 | i5noc | zz5-ux, your giving solid advise tho |
| 08:33.09 | i5noc | if one wants to get net and its restricted the best thing one can do is get a friggan cell phone |
| 08:33.15 | i5noc | other than that setup a proxy via ssh or so |
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| 08:33.20 | zz5-ux | app may be trying to access a floating license server |
| 08:33.32 | i5noc | sure, that's a great reason to do dns |
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| 08:33.43 | i5noc | but one should just run a dns server locally somewhere then.. |
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| 08:34.16 | nsadmin | well I think it would be clearer if it were: |
| 08:34.30 | Seta | lol xD |
| 08:34.43 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.57 | Seta | hey guys i just realized that the client not the server is my problem... so i dont really can do anything, but thx for your help! |
| 08:35.07 | JyZyXEL | how do you make kernel re-read partition tables? |
| 08:35.18 | zz5-ux | there are ten solutions to everything |
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| 08:35.32 | JyZyXEL | if you zero a partition table with dd the system still has the partition table in memory |
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| 08:36.04 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:36.46 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:41.13 | nsadmin | if you zero the partition table on a drive with dd and then you reread it, it will fail because it is not a valid partition table |
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| 08:41.50 | nsadmin | if, on the other hand, |
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| 08:43.18 | nsadmin | you delete all partitions on the drive with fdisk (they are not mounted or in use, correct?) and write the newly empty partition table out, fdisk will cause a reread (or at least try. if any of the drive is busy, it will fail) |
| 08:43.31 | JyZyXEL | doing 'w' on fdisk helped |
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| 08:44.41 | nsadmin | I think w asks the kernel to try rereading |
| 08:46.26 | xingu | JyZyXEL: blockdev --rereadpt |
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| 08:48.00 | JyZyXEL | daym never seen that command before |
| 08:48.12 | JyZyXEL | it can even set a block device read only |
| 08:48.25 | xingu | indeed, useful one to know about. |
| 08:48.38 | JyZyXEL | thatll come handy |
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| 09:24.53 | krion | hi |
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| 09:46.50 | ronr | hi, is there a debian package that would allow me to setup a VPN server where it's easy for windows and mac users to connect to? (so no need to install client software) |
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| 09:47.53 | ethanol | ronr: no |
| 09:48.07 | Bop | doesnt openssl have integrety with windows or mac ? |
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| 09:48.42 | ronr | ok, obviously not the answer I like to hear but thanks for the clarity, saves me a lot of time |
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| 09:50.20 | nsadmin | ronr: would a mac or win client machine need to install client software to connect to other vpn servers? |
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| 09:51.11 | ronr | nsadmin: afaik it doesn't |
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| 09:51.47 | nsadmin | which -could- indicate such client software is already installed? |
| 09:52.26 | nsadmin | so that's a question you'd have to find the answer to |
| 09:52.39 | ethanol | ronr: openvpn is often mentioned. but I have never used it myself. |
| 09:53.11 | nsadmin | ethanol is indicating client software is needed by his response above |
| 09:53.16 | i5noc | nsadmin, define connect to other vpn servers |
| 09:53.20 | i5noc | what method |
| 09:53.25 | Bushmills | windows has no integrated openvpn support. a windows version of it needs to be installed |
| 09:53.31 | i5noc | pptp wincrap has |
| 09:53.32 | nsadmin | well that would be my question too |
| 09:53.43 | ronr | ethanol: yeah, I've used that before, it works well I think, but apparently all my windows / mac users fail at connecting |
| 09:54.07 | i5noc | http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Configure-VPN-Connection-Windows-XP.html |
| 09:54.12 | nsadmin | i5noc: additionally yours is another question ronr would have to resolve |
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| 09:55.02 | i5noc | openvpn needs a client for windows at least |
| 09:56.40 | Bushmills | role "server" and "client" of openvpn are determined by configuration only - the package to install, or program to run, is the same for either |
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| 09:57.22 | nsadmin | so each thing is a node |
| 09:57.40 | Bushmills | same software becomes server with a server config, and client with a client config |
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| 10:00.04 | nsadmin | can someone help me with kvm, I need to find a way to present a logical volume on the kvm host to a kvm guest that would run a squeeze installer |
| 10:00.33 | Bop | ronr, im seeing openVPN for windows |
| 10:01.50 | nsadmin | not a logical partition (altho the logical volume is in a volume group with a single physical volume which is on a logical partition inside an extended partition which is a primary partition on a 2tb drive... |
| 10:01.57 | nsadmin | ) |
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| 10:07.04 | Bushmills | nsadmin: can't you loop mount filesystem, created in a file? |
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| 10:09.06 | ronr | Bop: yeah, it's possible, but somehow it's too difficult for my end users |
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| 10:09.26 | nirazio | How can i keep a command started from shell on running if i logout from shell? |
| 10:09.41 | Bop | nirazio, ~/.bash_logout |
| 10:10.25 | nirazio | Bop: pardon?? |
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| 10:11.14 | Bop | nirazio, on shell exit , will look for that file, and if exists , will execute every line in it |
| 10:12.09 | nirazio | Bop: How to add the command?? |
| 10:12.17 | Bushmills | why would openvpn be difficult when you provide access cert, key, config in an archive, ready to be unpacked for a working setup on client machines? |
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| 10:12.59 | Bop | well , i guess open vpn isnt for end users |
| 10:13.05 | Bop | ronr, do u know hamachi ?= |
| 10:13.30 | ronr | Bop: no |
| 10:13.36 | Bop | ronr, google it |
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| 10:13.45 | Bop | dont know if exists for mac anyways |
| 10:13.51 | Bop | win linux it exists |
| 10:13.53 | Bushmills | windows version has even a gui to connect/disconnect on mouse action |
| 10:13.54 | ronr | I'll check it out |
| 10:13.59 | Bop | its a simpler vpn solution |
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| 10:17.04 | nirazio | How can i keep a command started from shell on running if i logout from shell? |
| 10:19.43 | Bushmills | exit the program, then log out |
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| 10:23.38 | Bop | ops nirazio |
| 10:23.43 | Bop | i understand it wrong |
| 10:24.18 | Bop | nirazio, just install screen , its a pseudo-shell that can run in background as a process even leaving shell |
| 10:24.19 | Bushmills | or was that "let the command continue to run" instead of "keep it from running"? |
| 10:25.24 | nirazio | Bop: What abt nohup command??? |
| 10:26.19 | Bop | dunno that one |
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| 10:27.43 | Arrowmaster | nohup works when starting the program, or disown after youve already started it |
| 10:27.53 | void_ | hi, how do I enable ssh on fresh Debian installation please? |
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| 10:28.11 | Arrowmaster | void_: aptitude install ssh-server |
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| 10:28.40 | void_ | Arrowmaster: thanks sir |
| 10:28.42 | Nepherius | ssh or openssh-server |
| 10:28.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think its openssh-server |
| 10:29.12 | void_ | yep openssh-server worked just fine |
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| 10:29.20 | Arrowmaster | there should be an option for it too during the installer |
| 10:29.53 | Arrowmaster | oh ssh-server is a virtual package so that would have worked too |
| 10:29.54 | void_ | I dunno it's running as a virtual machine and I'm using only terminal anyway so no need to run GUI |
| 10:30.33 | Nepherius | speaking about ssh server , any idea why connection times out even if the port is open ?:( |
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| 10:30.49 | Nepherius | only ssh localhost works , ssh myip times out |
| 10:31.11 | Arrowmaster | local network ip or wan ip? |
| 10:31.35 | Nepherius | well the local one works too .. |
| 10:32.32 | Arrowmaster | router or firewall blocking it? |
| 10:32.52 | Nepherius | i got ufw and enabled port 22 |
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| 10:34.59 | jelly | wow, ufw is present in Debian? |
| 10:35.08 | jelly | ,versions ufw |
| 10:35.09 | judd | Package ufw on i386 -- squeeze: 0.29.3-1; sid: 0.30.0-2 |
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| 10:35.56 | Nepherius | what is ufw bad ? |
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| 10:36.11 | Arrowmaster | never used it |
| 10:36.49 | streuner_ | dpkg, info ufw |
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| 10:37.20 | dpkg | ufw: (program for managing a Netfilter firewall), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.30.0-2 (sid), Packaged size: 140 kB, Installed size: 848 kB |
| 10:38.57 | void_ | umm guys what was the command for switching to text mode? it was something-init some-number, right? |
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| 10:39.36 | Arrowmaster | ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 10:40.05 | Arrowmaster | although sounds like maybe you were thinking single user mode |
| 10:40.43 | void_ | no |
| 10:40.47 | void_ | just the text mode :/ |
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| 10:45.31 | tprow | how do I put the Debian sid installer on a USB flash drive from Windows? |
| 10:45.45 | tprow | I have (or can get) syslinux |
| 10:45.58 | tprow | I have the vmlinux, boot.img, and initrd.gz filees |
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| 10:49.57 | fonzi | system slowed down by many net.agent processes. how does net.agent process come about? |
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| 10:52.16 | Bop | does it exist 260.19.29 nvidia drivers , debian package ? |
| 10:52.37 | Bop | tprow, unetbootin |
| 10:52.48 | tprow | it's that easy? |
| 10:52.51 | Bop | yes |
| 10:52.54 | tprow | it gets the latest installer too? |
| 10:53.11 | Bop | u can download the iso |
| 10:53.17 | Bop | and make the bootable pen |
| 10:54.38 | tprow | is the gtk installer a peice of crap? |
| 10:54.56 | ethanol | try it? |
| 10:55.56 | OpenTokix | I can't see any added benefit of a mouse driven installer |
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| 10:58.30 | tprow | well...yeah |
| 10:58.59 | tprow | I'll bbl |
| 10:59.02 | tprow | hope it works |
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| 11:00.34 | tprow | this is an ipod nano 4th generation, so the bootloader may not have been installed properly to it |
| 11:00.41 | tprow | but, the ipod nano is in Disk Mode |
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| 11:26.39 | az_ordog_maga | jesus loves you:D |
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| 11:35.44 | RichiH | great... 2.6.32-5 does not show my nvidia ion2 sound device in aplay -l, yet alsamixer can see it |
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| 11:36.10 | phw | Is it possible to edit fstab from grub? |
| 11:36.31 | RichiH | phw no, but you can set a root= parameter via grub at boot time |
| 11:36.43 | RichiH | once you are booted into a working system, change your fstab |
| 11:37.00 | RichiH | but at least that explains why i am not getting any sound via hdmi |
| 11:37.21 | phw | what happened: a new drive was added but seemingly screwed up the fstab file upon doing so. the / entry should be ok, another one seems screwed up |
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| 11:43.18 | an1 | hey. i want to get debian. is it better to wait for 6.0 or current version is ok? also, why are there 5 dvds? |
| 11:44.39 | Arrowmaster | phw: you should be able to get into single user mode with only / and edit fstab from there |
| 11:44.56 | phw | Arrowmaster: i got it worked out, activating the serial console with grub parameters :) |
| 11:45.02 | xyan | an1: there are 5 dvds because the repository holds about 32k different packages |
| 11:45.05 | phw | but thanks anyway :) |
| 11:45.19 | xyan | an1: you can go with lenny and upgrade to squeeze without much struggle later on |
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| 11:49.02 | an1 | xyan: thanks. so if i get dvd 1, its sufficient? |
| 11:49.16 | an1 | and then i can get other packages as i want from the internet> |
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| 11:50.33 | xyan | an1: yeah cd1 is enough as well, or even the netinstaller if you have a decent internet connection and your networking hardware is recognized by the installer |
| 11:50.39 | xyan | !tell an1 about netinstall |
| 11:51.16 | samuncle | I have a question about licensing |
| 11:51.36 | samuncle | Can i use the DDS file format in a free/open source software ? |
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| 11:52.01 | xyan | samuncle: no clue what dds is but i guess you have more luck asking on the debian-legal@lists.debian.org mailinglist |
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| 11:52.11 | samuncle | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectDraw_Surface |
| 11:52.19 | samuncle | ok |
| 11:52.23 | samuncle | thank you |
| 11:53.09 | xyan | i dont see any licensing info in that wiki article but its a microsoft format so i bet its not free at all and hence conflicting with the debian free software guidelines |
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| 11:54.19 | xyan | (which does not mean you cant use it at all, your software might end up in the non-free branch though) |
| 11:54.50 | hid3 | Hello everyone. I run ntpd on my server. When syncing time using ntpdate from the Internet, it responds immediatelly. However, when I try to sync from a computer localted on local network, it takes 8-9 seconds to sync. What's the problem? |
| 11:54.58 | samuncle | ok but I found a plugin for gimp |
| 11:54.59 | samuncle | http://packages.debian.org/fr/lenny/gimp-dds |
| 11:56.15 | xyan | samuncle: ok, contact the maintainer he might help you as well |
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| 11:57.56 | an1 | xyan: i guess it should detect. but interfaces have to be manually configured(ip,gw and dns servers). is that possible during installation? I faced problems during kubuntu amd-64 setup. Will i face those issues during debian amd-64 setup too? Or should i go for i386 with pae?\ |
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| 12:00.19 | EagleScreen | hello |
| 12:00.36 | EagleScreen | i am looking at these USB-HDD images http://live.debian.net/cdimage/weekly-builds/squeeze/current/i386/usb-hdd/ |
| 12:00.55 | EagleScreen | I'd like to have a Debian Live persistent system |
| 12:01.05 | EagleScreen | how can I make it persistent? |
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| 12:02.57 | xyan | an1: you can set everything up manually/or via dhcp within the installer |
| 12:03.04 | xyan | an1: what problems exactly did you have? |
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| 12:04.19 | miksuh | I know Debian is in deep freeze, but should't update-manager be saccepted, it's quite important part of desktop, it has been waiting for 16 days already. I just am going to try to update from lenny to squeeze soon, and noticed update-manager is not in squeeze |
| 12:04.23 | miksuh | http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=update-manager |
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| 12:05.46 | hid3 | Any ideas about the ntpd problem? |
| 12:06.05 | ethanol | hid3: localted? |
| 12:06.18 | ethanol | hid3: did you try to ping said server? |
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| 12:06.43 | hid3 | ethanol: yes, <1 ms each time |
| 12:06.57 | hid3 | *located on local network, I meant |
| 12:08.06 | ethanol | EagleScreen: live != persistent |
| 12:08.23 | an1 | xyan: a whole lot of them. nvidia drivers (got a new dell xps 501). apparently, nvidia drivers dont work well with dell. xorg kept crashing, couldnt logon(infinite logon screen loop etc). hence put in the i386 with pae. but still, my inbuilt cam, brightness control etc still dont work. |
| 12:08.59 | EagleScreen | ethanol: I want a Live+persistent system in an USB-stick |
| 12:09.18 | ethanol | an1: if you are nog a total noob, I'd suggest you go with unstable |
| 12:09.22 | ethanol | s/nog/not/ |
| 12:09.32 | ethanol | EagleScreen: no such thing exists |
| 12:10.16 | ethanol | hid3: could be your ntpd works differently, multiple attempts/checks to validate time offset? |
| 12:10.22 | EagleScreen | yes, ethanol, ofcourse, it exists, at least, the rest of popupar distributions has an easy way to do it |
| 12:10.32 | ethanol | EagleScreen: then use those. |
| 12:10.46 | hid3 | ethanol: it might be. But what should I be looking for? I didn't change the config file. It worked just awesome some time ago! |
| 12:10.49 | ethanol | hid3: you could try running tcpdump while executing ntpdate, see what it does |
| 12:11.21 | Bushmills | hid3: strace and ltrace ntpclient |
| 12:11.23 | an1 | ethanol: im a half noob :) but id still like stable |
| 12:11.42 | ethanol | an1: unstable > stable for most non production machines |
| 12:11.47 | EagleScreen | yes ethanol, if Debian does not still support this, I will be forced to use another, but I'd rather Debian than other |
| 12:11.49 | Arrowmaster | EagleScreen: i dont believe LiveCD is a primary project for Debian so i doubt it will ever get any bells, whistles, and flashing lights |
| 12:11.57 | Bushmills | ntpdate, that is |
| 12:12.04 | tsl | Hey, I'm plauged by two problems. xchat takes long time to logon to freenode. It just stops after the "successfull" login to server. And is there anything to do about the flash player. It just consumes loads of cpu and ted.com failes. |
| 12:12.05 | ethanol | EagleScreen: other it is. |
| 12:12.27 | ethanol | tsl: and this belongs in #debian because...? |
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| 12:13.16 | tsl | ethanol: Merry Christmas to you too :P Just thought that maybe someone had some tips for me |
| 12:13.48 | ethanol | tsl: yeah. stop using xchat, use irssi. and flash? you could try a new computer. |
| 12:14.00 | ethanol | not saying they're great suggestions, but there you go. |
| 12:14.38 | tsl | ethanol: thank you. So flash works fine on your computer then? |
| 12:15.28 | ethanol | tsl: well I'm on a win7 box using putty to access all my servers.. |
| 12:15.34 | ethanol | so yeah, flash works fine for me. |
| 12:15.42 | hid3 | ethanol: nothing unusual. just verifies the time 4 times |
| 12:15.51 | tsl | baah, no wonder your so cranky. Win user.. :P |
| 12:16.03 | miksuh | hm actually looks like that Squeeze has also package update-manager-gnome.. has the actual package name just chabged and package update-manager is now just a metapclage ot something like that.. |
| 12:16.15 | miksuh | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=update-manager&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
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| 12:16.19 | ethanol | tsl: to be honest, I love this box though. powerhouse for my simple deskjob. never crashed, never froze. quite content with win7 :) |
| 12:16.39 | miksuh | damn typos |
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| 12:21.31 | Arrowmaster | miksuh: is there an RC bug or something and thats why you need the one from unstable? |
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| 13:00.06 | _stefanos_ | hello everyone. is anyone using java here? I have a problem with classpath and I would like someone's help please. I have added it in .profile, ran source .profile, and works fine upon compilation but as soon as I exit terminal and reopen it again, i get exceptions upon complication of another java file. |
| 13:02.35 | Jarvis | _stefanos_: try adding it to .bashrc |
| 13:02.41 | Jarvis | in addition to .profile |
| 13:04.00 | _stefanos_ | I have added it in .profile and ran source .profile. it worked ok that time. after I close terminal and reopen it, i tried to compile either the same file modified of course or another one and threw exceptions about the classpath. |
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| 13:04.19 | _stefanos_ | shall i try it in .bashrc to see if it works in there? |
| 13:04.36 | ethanol | _stefanos_: he just told you, do both |
| 13:05.24 | ethanol | you: I tried A; him: try A -and- B; you: shall I try B? |
| 13:05.30 | ethanol | logic, it shows not :< |
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| 13:06.58 | _stefanos_ | the compilation works now, but the execution fails. |
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| 13:07.41 | Jarvis | _stefanos_: what exctly did u put into the 2 files |
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| 13:09.11 | _stefanos_ | I am learning Java (Thinking in Java) and I have downloaded the source code from the official website of Bruce Eckel's. In the files he imports a collection of java files which are located in the path of source directory. |
| 13:09.34 | _stefanos_ | oh sorry you were referring to .profile and .bashrc |
| 13:10.06 | _stefanos_ | well I set the classpath like this: CLASSPATH="/the-directory-of-java-files/" |
| 13:10.10 | _stefanos_ | export CLASSPATH |
| 13:10.18 | _stefanos_ | i use bash |
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| 13:13.28 | Jarvis | ok , when u say it fails execution , what error do you get |
| 13:14.20 | _stefanos_ | let me pastebin it for you |
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| 13:16.48 | _stefanos_ | Jarvis: http://pastebin.wikistuce.info/?657 |
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| 13:18.44 | fbs | what is the debian package name for gnu parallel ? |
| 13:18.56 | fbs | or isnt it included yet? |
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| 13:19.52 | _stefanos_ | Jarvis: I think the problem is in .bashrc |
| 13:20.17 | _stefanos_ | as soon as I entered the classpath in there, it works fine but now the java command it does not work for some reason. |
| 13:20.28 | _stefanos_ | it must be something with PATH |
| 13:20.45 | Jarvis | let me guess, u overwrote PATH with something, without keeping the original |
| 13:20.56 | _stefanos_ | no i did not |
| 13:21.03 | _stefanos_ | i haven't touched the path |
| 13:21.35 | _stefanos_ | path can be found in /etc/profile and in ~/.profile |
| 13:22.04 | Jarvis | if it prints a java erorr , its nothing to do with your path variable |
| 13:22.16 | Jarvis | otherwise the java command would simply print not found |
| 13:22.36 | _stefanos_ | that's true |
| 13:23.05 | Jarvis | Unfortunately i'm a bit out of my depth here, i've not done much with java |
| 13:23.05 | _stefanos_ | ok, i will disable the classpath and i will try another piece of code that does not need the certain .java files. |
| 13:23.43 | Jarvis | _stefanos_: tbh, you should be able to specify the classpath on the java command line |
| 13:23.46 | Jarvis | eg |
| 13:23.57 | Jarvis | java -classpath ...blah... <file> |
| 13:24.09 | Jarvis | but unfortunately thats about the limit of my knowledge im afraid |
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| 13:24.22 | _stefanos_ | yeah i know but i cannot do such thing for many java files |
| 13:24.44 | _stefanos_ | I was correct Jarvis; it's the classpath that is causing the problem |
| 13:24.53 | _stefanos_ | it does compile but prevents java execution |
| 13:25.08 | _stefanos_ | i have created a java hello world and works fine |
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| 13:26.36 | shylent | what's the difference between Architecture: 'all' vs 'any' in the package metadata? Which one means 'architecture-independant'? |
| 13:27.01 | Jarvis | i would say any |
| 13:27.07 | Jarvis | but dont count that as gospel |
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| 13:28.03 | eshat | Hmm, the linux-headers package for the experimental kernel (2.6.37-rc5) are uninstallable since linux-kbuild-2.6.37 is not available. Am I doing anything wrong ? |
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| 13:31.08 | staybb | is it possible to use jdownloader on a text lined debian? |
| 13:32.00 | Jarvis | eshat: no its not you, it looks as if the kbuild package hasnt been uploaded yet. at least its not in the archive according to the pdb |
| 13:32.20 | _stefanos_ | staybb that it something that has nothing to do with debian but with jdownloader, isn't it? |
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| 13:33.33 | staybb | do you know a program that this allows? |
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| 13:36.13 | _stefanos_ | have you tried aria2c? |
| 13:36.17 | _stefanos_ | simply amazing |
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| 13:52.25 | serveboy99 | How do I run fsck.ext3 on a remote server over SSH? Is it possible? Since I don't have physical access, I'm afraid of running it on boot in case it prompts me for something. |
| 13:53.48 | frostschutz | you log in with ssh and run fsck there... if the other side has an ssh server running it should also have fsck available... ;) |
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| 13:55.02 | babilen | Make sure to run it withing screen (or tmux, or ...) or at least with nohup |
| 13:55.13 | frostschutz | and not while its mounted read-write |
| 13:55.22 | frostschutz | preferably not while its mounted at all |
| 13:55.25 | serveboy99 | but if I have to unmount the fs first, how will I access the fsck binary? |
| 13:55.57 | frostschutz | well, ideally your hoster will offer you a rescue system for such work |
| 13:56.17 | frostschutz | alternatively you could install a rescue system yourself on a free partition and boot that |
| 13:56.38 | frostschutz | even more alternatively you could switch root to a ram disk but that's a bit effy |
| 13:57.07 | serveboy99 | hmmm, I need to rebuild directory indexes. |
| 13:57.18 | serveboy99 | That's it. I don't want to verify the whole filesystem. |
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| 13:57.43 | serveboy99 | Is that possible? Basically fsck.ext3 -D -donothingelse /dev/md1 |
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| 13:58.13 | frostschutz | I think trying it while it's mounted read-only is your best bet, then... |
| 13:58.17 | babilen_ | !forcefsck |
| 13:58.17 | dpkg | To instruct your system to execute <fsck> on the next boot: "touch /forcefsck". Useful for checking the root filesystem for errors (via /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh). Alternatively, supply the -F option to shutdown(8) to create the /forcefsck advisory file, or include "forcefsck" at the kernel command line (Squeeze). |
| 13:58.39 | babilen_ | Alternatives: Get physical access or access to a rescue system |
| 13:58.45 | frostschutz | he doesn't want to do that in case it prompt him for something though |
| 13:59.29 | babilen_ | ah, i lost my connection for a second. Well, then it is either ro access or a way to access the system from a rescue system |
| 13:59.31 | serveboy99 | exactly |
| 13:59.48 | frostschutz | hosts that don't offer a rescue system, suck :-/ I have a very nice rescue system with my root server, also remote console, wake on lan and whatnot... very useful when something went wrong |
| 13:59.51 | serveboy99 | but if i mount root as read only won't that lead to a ton of problems? |
| 14:00.10 | frostschutz | yes, pretty much |
| 14:00.46 | babilen | no rescue system? |
| 14:00.56 | serveboy99 | I'll ask my host to setup a console. |
| 14:01.03 | serveboy99 | I'll force it on reboot. |
| 14:01.10 | serveboy99 | *force fsck |
| 14:01.12 | babilen | That is most likely the best way to deal with this |
| 14:01.18 | frostschutz | get yourself a rescue system while you're at it :) |
| 14:01.23 | serveboy99 | Will that automatically set the -D option to rebuild indexes? |
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| 14:01.38 | frostschutz | even if you have to install one yourself, still useful to have a chance of using one when you need one |
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| 14:09.15 | superlinux | hi. my print screen button in gnome is annoying me cos my buttons are small. how can I disable it for the time being? |
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| 14:13.55 | Jarvis | superlinux: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-273437.html < its for ubuntu but it should work in theory |
| 14:14.12 | superlinux | ok |
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| 14:21.24 | _stefanos_ | i really need help with path desperately :/ |
| 14:21.33 | _stefanos_ | i am way too confused with this thing |
| 14:21.56 | babilen | What confuses you? |
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| 14:22.34 | _stefanos_ | i am trying to make java classpath to work and if i place it into .bashrc compiles fine but it does not work. |
| 14:22.57 | _stefanos_ | if i place it in .profile it does not work (classpath) but normal java will work |
| 14:23.09 | _stefanos_ | as soon as I disable classpath, path works fine |
| 14:23.53 | _stefanos_ | it even disables bash_completion :/ |
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| 14:24.09 | _stefanos_ | usually i type "j" and press tab and works fine |
| 14:24.19 | _stefanos_ | but with classpath thing kills me! |
| 14:24.30 | _stefanos_ | how am i supposed to make it work under Debian? |
| 14:24.39 | babilen | "it" being? |
| 14:24.46 | _stefanos_ | shall i place it in /etc/profile?! I don't think so...:/ |
| 14:25.27 | babilen | what is "it" ? |
| 14:25.49 | _stefanos_ | you are right, i have confused you. let me recall |
| 14:26.11 | _stefanos_ | i have installed java on my system and i am in java learning process |
| 14:26.22 | babilen | yes |
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| 14:26.43 | _stefanos_ | i have downloaded Bruce Eckel's source code and he has created certain java files (not jar) and adds them as import in certain java files |
| 14:27.03 | _stefanos_ | in order to make it work i have to create a classpath and show to it the path of source directory |
| 14:27.03 | babilen | ok |
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| 14:27.22 | _stefanos_ | if i place it in .profile and run source .profile it works 50-50 |
| 14:27.35 | rigved | hi |
| 14:27.45 | _stefanos_ | upon exit and reopening it stops working and throws exceptions |
| 14:28.01 | rigved | can anyone tell me if there is debian smartphone edition? |
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| 14:28.27 | _stefanos_ | now if i place it in .bashrc it compiles fine, but 1) bash_completion stops working and 2) java (RE) stops working |
| 14:28.49 | _stefanos_ | if i take it out from .bashrc java works fine and javac not |
| 14:29.07 | _stefanos_ | it's so messy |
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| 14:35.29 | jeward | I'm in Windows 7 right now. Can I download a Broadcom wireless driver to Windows 7, then install it from the NTFS partition after rebooting into debian? |
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| 14:36.04 | _stefanos_ | jeward yes |
| 14:36.25 | _stefanos_ | download it and add the windows partition from debian |
| 14:36.33 | jeward | Where do I get the Broadcom driver package? I don't see it at packages.debian.org. |
| 14:37.00 | _stefanos_ | google it |
| 14:38.18 | jeward | Which driver do I need for the Alienware M11x? |
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| 14:46.24 | Touns | hello :) |
| 14:47.19 | jeward | I'm looking for the driver to support the Broadcom 4345. It's not listed on this page: http://wiki.debian.org/wl Is that the right driver? |
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| 14:48.21 | dynamite | http://pastebin.com/Er2mSqkY <-- can someone tell me why this e-mail got rejected? |
| 14:48.37 | krion | i've a question related to DSA-2130-1 |
| 14:49.15 | krion | looks like the package isn't in security.debian.org, as i can't update it and my running version is 1:9.6.ESV.R1+dfsg-0+lenny2 |
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| 14:49.30 | Touns | please, I'm packaging some ole cgi application. I don't know where to put it : lintian is not happy with /var/www and I understand why. So I download the deb file of phpmyadmin to watch where the application is installed and I see in /usr/share/phpmyadmin. But my application is not really an application to be shared by user. It's only one instance. I suppose phpmyadmin is in /usr/share because it's shared my lot's of user in a mutualised server for exemp |
| 14:49.45 | Touns | s/ole cgi/old cgi/ |
| 14:50.24 | krion | dynamite: hi first, don't see where you see it rejected, and not related to debian in any sort... |
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| 14:52.05 | dynamite | krion: i know, but i found that #debian is the most "central" place to try. |
| 14:52.18 | dynamite | krion: well, the mail did not arrive, therefore i was wondering why. |
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| 14:53.07 | krion | looks like it is first rejected because of greylisting |
| 14:53.16 | krion | but since it pass, don't see why you didn't get it |
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| 14:53.57 | krion | you shoud looke for a queue id and grep on it |
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| 14:55.20 | lenswipe | guys, netbeans is telling me i dont have JDK6 installed, but if i try and apt-get install it, aptitude tells me i already have it |
| 14:55.23 | lenswipe | can someone help? |
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| 14:55.35 | stew | lenswipe: try using update-java-alternatives |
| 14:55.44 | lenswipe | stew, been there already, it doesnt work |
| 14:56.20 | lenswipe | stew, in any case: E: Invalid operation update-java-alternatives |
| 14:57.09 | maligor | update-alternatives --config java |
| 14:57.40 | lenswipe | okay |
| 14:57.46 | lenswipe | done that, selected the Sun package |
| 14:57.49 | lenswipe | ...restarting netbeans |
| 14:58.00 | lenswipe | still the same |
| 14:58.03 | maligor | you can also try setting JAVA_HOME |
| 14:58.07 | lenswipe | "Glassfish Gem Requires JDK6" |
| 14:58.10 | maligor | assuming I remember it correctly |
| 14:58.13 | lenswipe | maligor, see above |
| 14:58.16 | stew | not --config |
| 14:58.37 | lenswipe | http://imagebin.org/129437 |
| 14:58.41 | lenswipe | check that out |
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| 14:59.28 | lenswipe | also look at this: http://imagebin.org/129438 |
| 14:59.31 | lenswipe | stew, maligor |
| 15:00.20 | maligor | did you try setting JAVA_HOME? |
| 15:00.34 | lenswipe | how do i set JAVA_HOME ? |
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| 15:01.51 | maligor | export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java/root |
| 15:02.01 | lenswipe | right... |
| 15:02.02 | maligor | I don't have jdk6 installed, so I'm not sure what the install path is |
| 15:02.08 | lenswipe | ...great |
| 15:02.23 | lenswipe | maligor, isnt java a pain in the ass |
| 15:02.42 | maligor | never had issues with it |
| 15:02.53 | lenswipe | maligor, ever developed with it? |
| 15:03.12 | _stefanos_ | ts...another one with Java issues |
| 15:03.12 | maligor | sure |
| 15:03.22 | _stefanos_ | i thought i was alone! |
| 15:03.23 | lenswipe | maligor, id rather stick pins in my eyes that write another java web app |
| 15:03.36 | maligor | heh |
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| 15:05.06 | Aenigma | when one installs debian with LVM does one have to do anything special to boot it? I can't get to grub at all. My bios keeps trying to boot off PXE. CD is Lenny amd64 minimum install cd that I got several months ago. |
| 15:05.07 | maligor | try JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.22 |
| 15:05.18 | maligor | if you have lenny |
| 15:05.40 | maligor | or squeeze |
| 15:05.46 | blaaa | hi, i have plugged in my usb stick which has a corrupted fat32 filesystem, and wanted to know if there is a way to recover those files |
| 15:06.00 | lenswipe | maligor, ok |
| 15:06.28 | lenswipe | maligor, nope |
| 15:06.32 | Aenigma | blaaa: get dosfstools |
| 15:06.38 | Aenigma | then fsck it. |
| 15:07.13 | lenswipe | Aenigma, i would but circuit boards just dont do it for me |
| 15:07.37 | blaaa | Aenigma: first run fsck then dosfstools? |
| 15:07.44 | maligor | lenswipe, do you know how environment variables work? |
| 15:08.15 | Jarvis | Aenigma: just make sure have lvm2 installed, it usually adds the kernel module to the initramfs . |
| 15:08.28 | Jarvis | Aenigma: just make sure have lvm2 installed, it usually adds the kernel module to the initramfs .? |
| 15:08.31 | Jarvis | oops |
| 15:08.34 | Jarvis | and grub-pc or grub-legacy ? |
| 15:08.40 | Aenigma | blaaa: no, fsck is in dosfstools |
| 15:08.47 | Aenigma | Jarvis: both. I tried both with the installer. |
| 15:08.54 | maligor | lenswipe, youll have to use export if you want the environment to pass to the executed program |
| 15:08.57 | lenswipe | maligor, yes i do know |
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| 15:09.01 | maligor | ah, ok |
| 15:09.11 | Jarvis | Aenigma: is the boot partition on LVM as well? |
| 15:09.16 | lenswipe | maligor, the logic behind java is just a mystery to me |
| 15:09.35 | maligor | lenswipe, maybe netbeans has some sort of Java path configuration thing |
| 15:09.53 | Aenigma | Jarvis: no, it's not. grub was installed on mbr but I did not put a bootable flag on the /boot partition? Does that matter? |
| 15:10.05 | Jarvis | no , shouldn't matter |
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| 15:10.13 | Jarvis | Aenigma: does it attempt to boot the hdd at all? |
| 15:10.18 | Aenigma | no. |
| 15:10.22 | Jarvis | try update-grub |
| 15:10.24 | lenswipe | maligor, maybe java is just a dick to work with |
| 15:10.29 | Jarvis | and force a reinstall of the bootloader? |
| 15:10.50 | Jarvis | dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc (for grub2) |
| 15:11.03 | blaaa | Aenigma: are there other ways for recovery? |
| 15:11.16 | Aenigma | is that on the minimum install disk? Or should I just use system rescue cd? |
| 15:11.41 | lenswipe | can someone help me install jdk6 on lenny? |
| 15:11.49 | Jarvis | Aenigma: which install disk did u use? |
| 15:12.18 | Aenigma | Jarvis: lenny amd64 minimum install |
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| 15:12.37 | Jarvis | hmm |
| 15:12.50 | lenswipe | doesnt debian support java or something? |
| 15:13.09 | _stefanos_ | lenswipe it does |
| 15:13.12 | _stefanos_ | openjdk |
| 15:13.27 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, yeah, thats shit |
| 15:13.35 | Jarvis | if u need sun-- |
| 15:13.41 | Jarvis | *sun-java6-jdk |
| 15:13.44 | Jarvis | its in non-free iirc |
| 15:13.45 | lenswipe | i have both openjdk and sun jdk installed |
| 15:13.54 | lenswipe | and netbeans still tells me that i dont have JDK6 installed |
| 15:13.56 | lenswipe | even when i do |
| 15:14.02 | _stefanos_ | weird |
| 15:14.05 | _stefanos_ | i have it installed |
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| 15:14.35 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, http://imagebin.org/129437 |
| 15:14.41 | lenswipe | and yet... |
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| 15:15.16 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, if i try and install it, http://pastebin.com/StS14Jjf |
| 15:15.17 | Jarvis | lenswipe: what happens if u type: ls -la `which java` |
| 15:15.56 | lenswipe | jareth_, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2010-12-09 01:36 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java |
| 15:15.58 | lenswipe | oops |
| 15:16.01 | lenswipe | Jarvis, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2010-12-09 01:36 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java |
| 15:16.06 | _stefanos_ | i have installed glasshfish and placed it in /opt/ |
| 15:16.43 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, im not trying to run glassfish though, all i want to do is develop a rails app in netbeans *cries* |
| 15:16.51 | Jarvis | lenswipe: what abou ls -la /etc/alternatives/java |
| 15:17.08 | lenswipe | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2010-12-24 14:57 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java |
| 15:17.15 | lenswipe | Jarvis, ^ |
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| 15:17.33 | _stefanos_ | lenswipe well all i did was to download netbeans from its website, and installed all the necessary packages from synaptic |
| 15:17.34 | _stefanos_ | that's all |
| 15:17.37 | Aenigma | during the recovery mode from debian installer it prompted me that my /boot was encrypted even though it wasn't. (I manually mounted it later on without a password) Is this peculiar? |
| 15:17.41 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, me too |
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| 15:18.04 | Jarvis | karsten: thats strange yes |
| 15:18.06 | _stefanos_ | to make it work though you have to place it to a directory where it will have read and write access |
| 15:18.19 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, huh? |
| 15:18.22 | Jarvis | lenswipe: did u use the debian glash* package ? |
| 15:18.22 | _stefanos_ | that's why i installed both of them to a directory of my choice |
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| 15:18.29 | lenswipe | Jarvis, what? |
| 15:18.42 | Jarvis | the debian glassfish package |
| 15:18.55 | lenswipe | netbeans comes with glassfish built in |
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| 15:19.04 | Jarvis | k |
| 15:19.08 | lenswipe | im not trying to run an application server here, im trying to do a rails app with netbeans |
| 15:19.22 | lenswipe | and when i did java netbeans had glassfish built in |
| 15:19.33 | lenswipe | although id rather stick pins in my eyes than go back to java |
| 15:19.55 | Jarvis | ok |
| 15:19.58 | lenswipe | :p |
| 15:20.04 | _stefanos_ | lenswipe, if you have installed it and you would like to make it work you can try my way |
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| 15:20.14 | Jarvis | lenswipe: your issue is that your java install seems to be that of the jre |
| 15:20.16 | Jarvis | not jdk |
| 15:20.25 | lenswipe | Jarvis, but i have JDK installed |
| 15:20.29 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, O_O |
| 15:20.31 | _stefanos_ | that is, i have created a directory where netbeans and glassfish have full access in there |
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| 15:20.55 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, i have netbeans already installed in /usr/local or something |
| 15:21.01 | Jarvis | lenswipe: run this: update-java-alternatives --set java-1.5.0-sun |
| 15:21.05 | _stefanos_ | it won't work under debian |
| 15:21.09 | Jarvis | replace 1.5 with 1.6 |
| 15:21.09 | _stefanos_ | it needs extra permissions |
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| 15:21.32 | lenswipe | Jarvis, bash: update-java-alternatives: command not found |
| 15:21.37 | _stefanos_ | i have tried the same as you, but the system was preventing me from changing permissions for a simple reason |
| 15:21.37 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, should i try running it as root? |
| 15:21.54 | lenswipe | i know its not a good security practice, but just as a diagnostic |
| 15:21.58 | _stefanos_ | the next time you would run updates, the permissions would go back to their default |
| 15:22.02 | _stefanos_ | nope |
| 15:22.20 | _stefanos_ | all you need to do is to open your terminal, and go to / |
| 15:22.28 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, ...right? |
| 15:22.32 | _stefanos_ | create a directory with a name of your choice |
| 15:22.38 | _stefanos_ | and installed it there |
| 15:22.43 | _stefanos_ | also |
| 15:22.56 | lenswipe | how do i get rid of netbeans from its current location in /usr/local ? |
| 15:23.03 | Jarvis | lenswipe: what happens when u run update-alternatives --config java |
| 15:23.11 | _stefanos_ | give user permissions to that directory with fully recursive permissions |
| 15:23.15 | lenswipe | sh: update-alternatives: command not found |
| 15:23.19 | Jarvis | lenswipe: under sudo |
| 15:23.22 | lenswipe | ah |
| 15:23.49 | lenswipe | Jarvis, http://pastebin.com/kuJ0jePK |
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| 15:25.33 | Jarvis | lenswipe: use number 3 |
| 15:25.42 | _stefanos_ | Jarvis, about my case with CLASSPATH, what shall i do? |
| 15:25.45 | lenswipe | Jarvis, i did |
| 15:25.51 | lenswipe | Jarvis, still the same |
| 15:25.59 | Jarvis | lenswipe: do the same command but for javac |
| 15:26.03 | lenswipe | Jarvis, ok |
| 15:26.19 | lenswipe | Jarvis, (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/javac). Nothing to configure. |
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| 15:26.37 | Jarvis | lenswipe: ls /etc/alternatives/java* |
| 15:26.53 | lenswipe | right |
| 15:26.54 | Jarvis | _stefanos_: not sure with yout classpath issue :/ |
| 15:27.00 | lenswipe | Jarvis, want me to pastebin that? |
| 15:27.13 | Jarvis | lenswipe: might be easier just to remove the java installs u dont want |
| 15:27.25 | lenswipe | why do i have to? |
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| 15:28.00 | lenswipe | Jarvis, http://pastebin.com/MiS4ZKZ6 |
| 15:28.11 | Jarvis | lenswipe: what happens if u run the update alternatives for javaw |
| 15:28.16 | _stefanos_ | Jarvis, do you know anything about Ant then? |
| 15:28.28 | Jarvis | _stefanos_: nope |
| 15:28.31 | lenswipe | Jarvis, robert@C03:/$ sudo update-alternatives --config javaw |
| 15:28.32 | lenswipe | No alternatives for javaw. |
| 15:28.34 | _stefanos_ | ok |
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| 15:29.24 | Jarvis | ah |
| 15:29.34 | Jarvis | lenswipe: apt-get install java-common |
| 15:29.51 | lenswipe | java-common is already the newest version. |
| 15:29.51 | lenswipe | java-common set to manually installed. |
| 15:30.12 | Jarvis | hmm |
| 15:30.44 | Jarvis | lenswipe: what happens if u run: sudo /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives |
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| 15:32.19 | lenswipe | Jarvis, i get a syntax error thingy |
| 15:32.30 | Jarvis | lenswipe: sudo /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun |
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| 15:34.14 | lenswipe | Jarvis, want me to pastebin that? |
| 15:34.25 | Jarvis | lenswipe: yea can do |
| 15:34.25 | lenswipe | it updated some and just said "no alternatives for ----" for the others |
| 15:34.33 | lenswipe | http://pastebin.com/ity7HKEH |
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| 15:35.13 | Jarvis | ok , try restarting your app now lenswipe |
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| 15:37.00 | lenswipe | Jarvis, http://imagebin.org/129441 |
| 15:37.01 | lenswipe | *SCREAM* |
| 15:37.08 | lenswipe | dropkicks JDK out of the window |
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| 15:37.13 | Jarvis | ` |
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| 15:37.52 | _stefanos_ | lenswipe, just do what i have told you man |
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| 15:38.01 | lenswipe | i did |
| 15:38.05 | lenswipe | oh right |
| 15:38.22 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, im trying to exhaust all other methods before i have to install netbeans in a weird place |
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| 15:38.36 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, wait, if i run the installer as myself this time (instead of as root) would that work instead? |
| 15:38.45 | _stefanos_ | listen, it won't be a weird directory if you think about it |
| 15:39.07 | _stefanos_ | nope |
| 15:39.12 | lenswipe | great |
| 15:39.33 | lenswipe | _stefanos_, i feel like finding the person who did the permissions system on debian and kicking their face off |
| 15:39.35 | _stefanos_ | just do the way i have recommended to you and you will be happy |
| 15:39.44 | lenswipe | yeah |
| 15:39.50 | _stefanos_ | trust me i now the feeling |
| 15:39.52 | lenswipe | and ill have to wait for like an hour while netbeans downloads |
| 15:40.20 | _stefanos_ | all i did was to create a folder under root directory, created two subfolders, one for GF and one for NB |
| 15:40.38 | _stefanos_ | i changed the permissions and ownership to those subfolders and the rest is history |
| 15:40.43 | _stefanos_ | finished in no time |
| 15:40.52 | lenswipe | what did you change the ownership to? |
| 15:41.05 | _stefanos_ | the user |
| 15:41.07 | lenswipe | did you give it the same perms as your home dir? 755 and then chown it to you? |
| 15:41.09 | _stefanos_ | stefanos:stefanos |
| 15:41.11 | lenswipe | yeah |
| 15:41.22 | _stefanos_ | yeap |
| 15:41.24 | lenswipe | so any particular reason why i couldnt run the installer as myself and just do it that way? |
| 15:41.26 | _stefanos_ | 755 will do |
| 15:41.45 | _stefanos_ | because the installer won't let you create a directory to root |
| 15:42.02 | _stefanos_ | it prohibits you from doing so |
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| 15:43.30 | lenswipe | huh? |
| 15:43.48 | _stefanos_ | try it |
| 15:43.53 | lenswipe | try what?] |
| 15:43.56 | _stefanos_ | it prohibited me from doing so |
| 15:43.58 | lenswipe | running the installer as me? |
| 15:44.00 | lenswipe | hmm |
| 15:44.02 | lenswipe | maybe i will |
| 15:44.06 | _stefanos_ | the installer will run |
| 15:44.15 | lenswipe | although i might just boot into windows to do rails coding |
| 15:44.15 | Skaperen | "4 partitions is all that anyone will ever need" |
| 15:44.16 | _stefanos_ | the creation of directories won't permitted |
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| 15:44.26 | lenswipe | yeah i think i will |
| 15:44.34 | lenswipe | i think ill do my rails coding on windows |
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| 15:44.41 | lenswipe | thats in enough of a mess already |
| 15:44.49 | lenswipe | brb |
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| 15:47.39 | lenswipe | back |
| 15:47.51 | lenswipe | "Broadcasting live to you from winshit" |
| 15:47.54 | C2H5OH | hi, I can't seem to be able to invoke upower.suspend through D-Bus |
| 15:48.06 | C2H5OH | is there a place where I can grant access as a non-priviledged user? |
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| 15:52.07 | Aenigma | I just zeroed my /boot partition, remade ext2 on it, recopied the contents of the old /boot, then installed grub on it with no errors. reboot and no change. I don't understand this at all. |
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| 15:53.16 | iceisfun | which console irc client is most up to date? |
| 15:53.32 | Aenigma | I'm using irssi. |
| 15:53.37 | iceisfun | Same here |
| 15:53.53 | iceisfun | I've noticed some characters cause the screen to draw weird though |
| 15:54.01 | iceisfun | Is that just a long standing bug then? |
| 15:54.06 | Aenigma | that's probably to do with your terminal and not irssi |
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| 15:54.20 | iceisfun | I see. I am connected via putty, that might do it |
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| 15:55.20 | Aenigma | yeah, putty terminal is not that great. ^L to redraw should do it, though |
| 15:55.49 | iceisfun | can you join #hardware and see if its messed up for you? |
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| 15:56.49 | Aenigma | iceisfun: it looks fine to me. why? |
| 15:56.52 | iceisfun | do you see the topic wrapping around? |
| 15:56.55 | petemc | putty shouldnt be the problem, the locales available or the term setting more likely |
| 15:57.04 | Aenigma | yes. |
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| 15:57.12 | iceisfun | mine wraps to the next line, and sometimes the bottom blue line wraps too |
| 15:57.37 | iceisfun | guess its not a big deal |
| 15:58.03 | Aenigma | change the term settings around like petemc said |
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| 15:59.28 | iceisfun | ok thanks |
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| 16:18.45 | h3sp4wn | iceisfun: If you are using a utf8 locale you have to specifically enable utf8 in putty |
| 16:19.04 | C2H5OH | hi, I can't seem to be able to invoke upower.suspend through D-Bus |
| 16:19.06 | C2H5OH | is there a place where I can grant access as a non-priviledged user? |
| 16:19.17 | h3sp4wn | Is there |
| 16:19.22 | h3sp4wn | sorry |
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| 16:21.09 | apollo | Will Squeeze be ready for Sunday upgrade? |
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| 16:21.54 | Aenigma | apollo: I thought it was supposed to be out by Christmas |
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| 16:23.14 | apollo | Does anyone know if the non-free repos are or will be available? It wouldn't be worth upgrading without the non-free stuff. |
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| 16:24.46 | Aenigma | apollo: non-free is available. |
| 16:25.06 | apollo | thank you |
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| 16:39.21 | pythoned | Hi, I'm trying to remove some programs which came by default with gnome...so I tried with Software center, I click remove but nothing happens. Why? |
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| 16:42.28 | babilen | pythoned: Try "aptitude remove PKG" on the command line and paste the output to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 16:44.38 | pythoned | babilen: It says it couldn't find the package.... |
| 16:44.52 | pythoned | babilen: But if I try in software center...I can find it. |
| 16:45.13 | babilen | pythoned: Which package are you trying to remove? |
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| 16:45.32 | pythoned | babilen: It's a game...tetravex....which comes default with gnome. |
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| 16:46.19 | Jarvis | pythoned: iirc its either one or all for gnome, there is no specific package just for tetravex |
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| 16:46.33 | babilen | pythoned: probably part of "gnome-game" you might want to remove that package |
| 16:46.43 | Jarvis | gnome-games , wil purge all the games yes |
| 16:46.46 | pythoned | babilen: Ohh silly me....thanks |
| 16:47.18 | babilen | and yes, keep Jarvis' remark in mind that this will remove all games that are contained in that package |
| 16:47.26 | pythoned | I did it, thanks. |
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| 16:47.50 | babilen | no problem -- you might want to "/msg dpkg apt-file" in here |
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| 16:48.23 | peterrooney | "Software Center" -- new to me |
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| 16:49.20 | babilen | I have no idea what that refers to as well :-D |
| 16:49.23 | linduxed | is there an easy way to compare two md5sums? basically i want to do "md5sum /some/directory/file.foo | magicThatComparesMD5s < md5sum /the/other/file.foo" |
| 16:49.29 | linduxed | or something to that extent |
| 16:49.36 | linduxed | i just realized that command was horrible |
| 16:50.02 | linduxed | but basically just a thing that says if two sums are identical |
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| 16:52.45 | ThePub | just reinstalled squeeze and am having a brain fart, which package houses all the compiling basic requirements? |
| 16:52.49 | xingu | linduxed: you mean like md5sum(1) --check ? |
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| 16:53.53 | linduxed | xingu: i have no idea, but i'll take a look on that |
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| 16:56.17 | linduxed | xingu: looks like it, but i have no idea how to use it |
| 16:57.11 | xingu | linduxed: md5sum - </path/to/orig >/tmp/sums; md5sum --check /tmp/sums </path/to/copy at a guess |
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| 16:58.15 | abrotman | ThePub: build-essential |
| 16:58.26 | linduxed | xingu: ill have a look if that works |
| 16:59.09 | ThePub | abrotman: yes, thanks! lynx just finished installing and found it on google at the same time :) |
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| 16:59.56 | linduxed | oh btw, is there a way to do a recursive md5sum or sha1sum for an entire directory tree? |
| 17:01.07 | xingu | linduxed: md5deep |
| 17:01.36 | linduxed | is there a sha1deep? |
| 17:01.39 | linduxed | or wait |
| 17:01.44 | linduxed | should i care? |
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| 17:01.58 | ohmy | hi |
| 17:02.06 | linduxed | i heard md5 is worse than sha1 but that might not be relevant for filechecking... |
| 17:02.12 | xingu | linduxed: " Md5deep is a set of tools to compute md5, sha-1, sha-256, tiger, whirlpool" |
| 17:02.26 | HoldenC | linduxed: you could use find: find /path -type f -exec md5sum {} \; |
| 17:02.34 | xingu | or you could use md5deep |
| 17:02.53 | ohmy | i have such a strange issue, after hours of google search i can't find solution to it, hopefully some of you have a solution for it |
| 17:03.28 | ohmy | When i run opengl applications in full screen kde bar is still displayed, please have a look to http://img638.imageshack.us/i/captureowy.png/ |
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| 17:04.40 | ThePub | ohmy: would imagine the "fullscreen" layer is rendering at a lower level than the bar. |
| 17:04.51 | ThePub | ohmy: would be a window manager issue. |
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| 17:04.59 | ohmy | ThePub: thank you |
| 17:05.44 | ThePub | ohmy: that is just a guess, not a definite answer :) |
| 17:07.43 | C2H5OH | oye |
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| 17:12.06 | hyppie | :\ |
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| 17:12.17 | hyppie | :) |
| 17:12.36 | hyppie | :D |
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| 17:13.09 | hyppie | ): |
| 17:13.13 | jeward | I'm having trouble installing the nvidia driver: http://pastebin.com/jvA670dJ |
| 17:13.28 | jeward | Did I do something wrong? |
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| 17:14.01 | abrotman | jeward: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 17:14.21 | jeward | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 335M] [10de:0caf] (rev a2) |
| 17:14.44 | abrotman | perhaps that driver version doesn't support that device? |
| 17:15.07 | jeward | abrotman: Ah, i was following the debian wiki nvidia page. |
| 17:15.24 | abrotman | how old is the card? perhaps try thelegacy ? |
| 17:15.39 | jeward | abrotman: Pretty new. |
| 17:15.50 | abrotman | buy intel! |
| 17:15.55 | jeward | abrotman: :-) |
| 17:16.03 | jeward | Machine has both actually. |
| 17:16.11 | ThePub | If it's too new it may not be fully supported by nVidia yet (of course "fully supported" is subjective with nvidia) |
| 17:16.13 | jeward | But I need nvidia for wine. |
| 17:16.18 | abrotman | need? |
| 17:16.25 | abrotman | uses wine iwth intel cards |
| 17:16.26 | jeward | So i should get the driver from nvidia? |
| 17:16.46 | abrotman | perhaps, beware that if your kernel/X get updated, you'll have to reinstall your driver yourself |
| 17:16.54 | jeward | Ubuntu loaded the right driver, but ubuntu is FAT. |
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| 17:17.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | file allocation table? |
| 17:17.29 | xingu | ThePub: v195 of nvidia driver is scarcely current, debian's packaging woes aren't their fault. :) |
| 17:17.40 | ThePub | I never have any issues following the wiki instructions on debian, but I have an 8400GS |
| 17:18.07 | ThePub | xingu: I wasn't referring to a debian deficiency, more of a support issue on the manufacturer side :) |
| 17:18.21 | jeward | ThePub: Any suggestions? |
| 17:18.33 | abrotman | buy intel! |
| 17:18.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually, is there some filesystem-independent way to undelete files that a program still has open? |
| 17:18.53 | jeward | abrotman: You've had your Wheaties this morning! |
| 17:18.58 | abrotman | hardly |
| 17:19.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | obviously the whole file is still intact at the time, but I can't think of any |
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| 17:19.51 | ThePub | jeward: not really, I can't look at yoru link so have no idea what you posted :) |
| 17:20.01 | peterrooney | CutMeOwnThroat: cat /proc/kmem . . . |
| 17:20.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | no it'd be on disk, just missing the hard-link into a directory |
| 17:20.36 | jeward | ThePub: FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/nvidia/nvidia.ko): No such device |
| 17:20.48 | jeward | ThePub: After the driver built fine. |
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| 17:21.00 | abrotman | it won't complain about building .. |
| 17:21.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | the owning process would still have full access, of course... which isn't too useful if you can't use that to create a 2nd copy from there |
| 17:22.02 | ThePub | jeward: I really don't know, it'd probably be wrong to look in /proc/modules to see if nouveau is loaded. Just stabbing in the dark could 2check that you don't have a kernel module already providing the service. |
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| 17:22.33 | ThePub | jeward: add "nvidia" to /etc/modules and restart? there again that's probably not a solid suggestion. may as well buy intell ;p |
| 17:22.36 | ThePub | er.. intel |
| 17:23.24 | jeward | ThePub: button 4650 1 nouveau, Live 0xffffffffa0183000 |
| 17:23.35 | jeward | thePub: Does that mean it is? |
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| 17:23.59 | ThePub | nouveau and nvidia do the same thing so are mutually exclusive. |
| 17:24.18 | abrotman | not exactly the same thing . |
| 17:24.34 | jeward | Theub: Do I have to blacklist nouveau, or does specifyint nvidia in /etc/modules do the trick? |
| 17:24.37 | ThePub | abrotman: of course not the same, but can't be loaded at the same time in my experience. |
| 17:25.01 | abrotman | no, they cannot |
| 17:25.29 | ThePub | jeward: do the above and see if it works I suppose. can't guarantee it will work :) blacklisting is not necessary since nouveau is dyanmically loaded as needed, so if you load nvidia during the boot process all should be good. |
| 17:25.52 | jeward | Okay... wish me luck! |
| 17:26.06 | abrotman | would think it would say already in use, not no such device |
| 17:26.14 | ThePub | abrotman: I agree |
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| 17:26.50 | ThePub | abrotman: but if he wants bad advice when it's stated as bad advice.. suppose he can have it? ;p |
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| 17:29.23 | abrotman | i still suspect it's just not supported .. but what do i know .. i avoidtheir hardware like theplague |
| 17:29.56 | xingu | my guess is that most shipping gt 335m designs are optimus based and that this is presently a CANTFIX |
| 17:30.22 | abrotman | open source the driver ... let others try :) |
| 17:30.56 | ThePub | there really isn't a great card it seems |
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| 17:31.21 | abrotman | depends on how you define great .. i don't play games on my PCs... intel is great for me |
| 17:31.48 | xingu | evidently you don't do vector math either ;) |
| 17:32.06 | ThePub | yeah me neither anymore. used to play WoW but that's it |
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| 17:32.25 | jeward | Success! |
| 17:32.36 | ThePub | oh, so it worked jeward ? lol, amazing |
| 17:33.01 | jeward | So, if I installed wine before I started using the nvidia driver... do I have to reinsatall wine? directX isn't working. |
| 17:33.25 | xingu | jeward: this may be of interest too; http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/ |
| 17:33.26 | jeward | ThePub: And it seems to have both nvidia and Nouveau loaded? |
| 17:34.25 | jeward | nvidia 10670090 31 i2c_core 15712 7 nouveau,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,videodev,i2c_i801,nvidia |
| 17:35.12 | jeward | xingu: Yeah, seems Fedora is all over this hardware. |
| 17:35.47 | jeward | xingu: Mine's pre Optimus though. |
| 17:35.56 | xingu | jeward: when you say "nvidia" and "success" do you mean that nvidia's own blob driver is now working? |
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| 17:36.28 | jeward | xingu: The nvidia-common kernel driver from the debian wiki page is working. |
| 17:36.53 | jeward | xingu: I get the nVidia splash screen when X starts. |
| 17:37.19 | jeward | xingu: My problem now being that DirectX isn't working in wine. |
| 17:37.21 | xingu | jeward: groovy |
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| 17:37.42 | jeward | xingu: But I configured Wine while running nouveau. Is that a problem? |
| 17:37.55 | xingu | jeward: that I can't help you with, I've never had a need to use wine |
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| 17:38.49 | pythoned | How can you get a touchpad working on debian, is there an article on that in the wiki? I haven't found one. |
| 17:38.58 | jeward | I wonder if the fancy xorg.conf created by nvidia-xconfig will work now? |
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| 17:39.07 | ThePub | jeward: and you've 2checked the tests on the wiki page and made sure it was running the nvidia glx? |
| 17:39.08 | jeward | tries it. |
| 17:39.18 | jeward | ThePub: Eh? |
| 17:39.31 | jeward | looks again. |
| 17:40.06 | jeward | ThePub: bash: glxinfo: command not found |
| 17:40.19 | jeward | ThePub: Did I miss installing something? |
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| 17:40.24 | abrotman | pythoned: mine works fine .. what's the issue? |
| 17:40.58 | pythoned | abrotman: I have a dell inspiron 1545...and tapping on the touchpad doesn't work...only the left and right button click. |
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| 17:41.51 | abrotman | pythoned: i added some stuff manually to my xorg.conf .. works fine |
| 17:41.57 | jeward | ThePub: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/glxinfo-command-not-found-nvidia-debian-469088/ |
| 17:42.37 | pythoned | abrotman: "stuff" as in http://codepad.org/O7q4luSU ? |
| 17:42.38 | jeward | ThePub: direct rendering: Yes |
| 17:43.03 | abrotman | pythoned: http://paste.debian.net/103150/ |
| 17:43.08 | abrotman | pythoned: that works for mine |
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| 17:43.28 | abrotman | pythoned: YMMV |
| 17:43.43 | pythoned | abrotman: I will try to see if it works for me too. Thanks! |
| 17:44.32 | pythoned | abrotman: Another question, where is the xorg.conf located? |
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| 17:44.44 | abrotman | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 17:44.59 | ThePub | jeward: really can't say, if you can do all the checks.. getting the nvidia logo, etc. seems to me it would be working. hten again having the nvidia driver working and wine/directX aren't necessarily consistent. |
| 17:45.26 | jeward | ThePub: Everything worked fine under Ubuntu. :-( |
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| 17:45.41 | jeward | ThePub: I'd just really rather run debian. |
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| 17:52.27 | pythoned | abrotman: Doesn't work:( any other suggestions? |
| 17:52.49 | pythoned | abrotman: I have an alps touchpad...I just checked. |
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| 17:56.08 | abrotman | pythoned: doesn't work is vague |
| 17:56.30 | ThePub | jeward: I just ran through the nvidia instructions and seems to work fine. |
| 17:56.48 | ThePub | abrotman: your intel card is onboard? |
| 17:57.12 | abrotman | yes |
| 17:57.16 | jeward | ThePub: But you don't use wine DirectX? |
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| 17:57.33 | ThePub | jeward: nope |
| 17:57.39 | pythoned | abrotman: I can click while tapping the touchpad...only with my left and right buttons. |
| 17:57.58 | abrotman | pythoned: tried setting it up with gsynaptics ?> |
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| 17:58.12 | abrotman | ThePub: intel does not sell discrete cards .. yet |
| 17:58.15 | pythoned | abrotman: This I haven't try... |
| 17:58.25 | ThePub | abrotman: how well do the open-source drivers work with flash? do you use it with hulu, etc? |
| 17:58.30 | pythoned | abrotman: How do I do that? |
| 17:58.49 | abrotman | it has docs |
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| 17:59.02 | pythoned | abrotman: it has but where? |
| 17:59.14 | abrotman | ThePub: yes, not on this netbook, but on my full laptop i do ... never tried on this netbook .. but the thinkpad works great |
| 17:59.25 | abrotman | pythoned: man gsynapatics? /usr/share/doc/gsynaptics/ ? |
| 17:59.30 | jeward | If it weren't for Netflix requiring Silverlight, I would remove Windows 7 from my SSD altogether. |
| 17:59.42 | abrotman | !moonlight |
| 17:59.42 | dpkg | moonlight is, like, a Free implementation of the Microsoft Silverlight products written using the <mono> stack. Moonlight/Silverlight is a way of delivering interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. A plugin for mozilla-based browsers like <iceweasel> is available in the moonlight package (lenny) or moonlight-plugin-mozilla package (squeeze onwards). |
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| 17:59.54 | ThePub | netflix doesn't work with moonlight last time I tried |
| 17:59.58 | jeward | abrotman: That roject seems long dead. |
| 18:00.01 | pythoned | abrotman: No manual entry for gsynaptics |
| 18:00.02 | jeward | project |
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| 18:00.10 | abrotman | jeward: moonlight is not dead |
| 18:00.11 | ThePub | it doesn't have the drm codecs |
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| 18:01.14 | ThePub | Microsoft has removed it's active support of moonlight too iirc |
| 18:01.32 | abrotman | it's still active |
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| 18:02.06 | pythoned | abrotman: That means I have to apt-get it isn't it? |
| 18:02.22 | abrotman | yes |
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| 18:02.35 | jeward | tries moonlight |
| 18:02.49 | ThePub | unless things have progressed in the last year it won't work on netflix :\ |
| 18:02.58 | abrotman | jeward: i've never used it with netflix, i don't have a netflix acct |
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| 18:03.23 | Ring0` | Hey, where can I check access log for MySQL |
| 18:03.23 | pythoned | abrotman: I did apt-get install gsynaptics...it worked..but if I do man gsynaptics...i still get no manual entry for gsynaptics...why? |
| 18:03.26 | ThePub | it doesn't have the proprietary drm codecs used by netflix and they don't supply them to moonlight.. so they don't work. |
| 18:03.51 | abrotman | pythoned: dpkg -L foopkg .. see what it installed |
| 18:03.52 | jeward | abrotman: Doesn't work. |
| 18:03.56 | ThePub | movies on amazon work though |
| 18:04.04 | jeward | abrotman: what else do you do with Silverlight? |
| 18:04.08 | ThePub | but those are at least $3.99/ea |
| 18:04.30 | abrotman | jeward: netflix isn't the only site that uses it |
| 18:04.42 | ThePub | amazon uses it :) |
| 18:04.52 | jeward | abrotman; Yeah, I'm asking what else uses it? |
| 18:04.55 | ceduardo | merry chrismas for all ho ho ho :), |
| 18:04.57 | jeward | Oh. :) |
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| 18:05.16 | jeward | ThePub: So Netflix COULD work? |
| 18:05.38 | ThePub | jeward: that was always my assumption. read on the netflix forumns about the drm stuff. |
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| 18:06.15 | abrotman | ThePub: http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/moonlight-list/2010-December/001182.html |
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| 18:07.47 | jeward | This is weird, I downloaded and iso with transmission and it's not where it says it should be... |
| 18:08.07 | jeward | Do I have to exit transmission"? |
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| 18:08.51 | matu | Hi, i lost my root password, is there a way to launch the system in rescue mode editing the command line before booting ? |
| 18:09.26 | abrotman | !tell matu about ifrp |
| 18:09.43 | Shadow` | !tell Shadow` about ifrp |
| 18:09.58 | abrotman | !tell Shadow` about selftell |
| 18:10.07 | Shadow` | lazy |
| 18:10.11 | matu | i cant check the link, since i updated the debian stable my cursor doesnot work anymore |
| 18:10.14 | ajikeshi | !tell ajikeshi a story |
| 18:10.20 | abrotman | leave the bot alone |
| 18:10.29 | ajikeshi | nice easter egg :D |
| 18:10.31 | abrotman | link ? |
| 18:10.32 | matu | i dont have a mouse working |
| 18:10.32 | ThePub | cranky bot! |
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| 18:10.38 | matu | please can you tell me ? |
| 18:10.40 | abrotman | matu: you don't need a link?just read what the botsaid |
| 18:11.16 | Shadow` | good to know if i ever find someone else using linux and hack him |
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| 18:13.57 | abrotman | ThePub: that URL linked in the second email has a ton of info |
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| 18:15.57 | matu | /bin/sh: can't access tty; job conrol urned off |
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| 18:17.26 | andares | hey, how do I grab certain packages from sid? |
| 18:17.44 | matu | thank you guys but it does not work |
| 18:17.54 | matu | it is mounted in read only mode |
| 18:18.59 | abrotman | andares: you likely don't, which package? which version are you on curently? |
| 18:19.07 | abrotman | matu: read the rest of what the bot said |
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| 18:19.39 | andares | abrotman: I need bitlbee-3, and squeeze has only 1.2.8 or something. |
| 18:19.50 | matu | i can't unmount it in order to check it... |
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| 18:19.58 | matu | anyway it says it is clean |
| 18:20.23 | abrotman | judd: versions bitlbee |
| 18:20.24 | judd | Package bitlbee on i386 -- etch: 1.0.3-1.3; etch-backports: 1.2.3-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.2.3-1; lenny-backports: 1.2.7-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.2.8-1; sid: 3.0.1-1 |
| 18:20.36 | abrotman | andares: you can try to backport it .. may or may not work |
| 18:20.41 | abrotman | !tell andares about ssb |
| 18:21.10 | matu | anyway i dont have a single line to edit pushing the e key |
| 18:21.49 | matu | i have 3 lines to edit... |
| 18:21.59 | matu | it is the grub lst |
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| 18:24.38 | matu | abrotman, i read it all but it does not work |
| 18:24.52 | matu | i have 3 lines to edit, not a single one |
| 18:24.56 | D4rKr0W | hello #debian, does anyone know about video streaming servers? i need to set up one, but i have no clue about what softwares to use |
| 18:25.19 | Shadow` | vlc? |
| 18:25.24 | tbsaunde | matu: you are suposed to edit the one that is kernelblah |
| 18:25.32 | Shadow` | D4rKr0W, try videolan |
| 18:25.48 | matu | oh the second line so... i already did it and it does not work |
| 18:25.52 | Shadow` | it plays pretty much everything that even remotely looks like a video file or stream |
| 18:25.58 | matu | /bin/sh: can't access tty; job conrol urned off |
| 18:26.31 | tbsaunde | matu: that should be fine, you don't need job control |
| 18:27.03 | matu | erf i have to remount it... |
| 18:27.14 | matu | not just unmount, maybe it will works this way... |
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| 18:29.27 | matu | thank you guys |
| 18:29.39 | matu | i really had to use the -o option |
| 18:30.12 | matu | so it is different ;-) |
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| 18:32.54 | tbsaunde | matu: yes, why wouldn't you want to use -o ? |
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| 18:34.42 | epaphus | Hello. My machine runs on dhcp.. how do i know what is the gateway ip ? ifconfig doesnt show it, cat /etc/network/interfaces doesnt either because of dhcp |
| 18:34.46 | nirazio | I want to encrypt my new external hard drive so it would be readable/writable on any computer I plug it in. Can I do that? |
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| 18:35.29 | tbsaunde | epaphus: route |
| 18:35.35 | abrotman | epaphus: route or i[ |
| 18:35.37 | abrotman | ip |
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| 18:39.05 | acemi | epaphus: ip route ls |
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| 18:39.11 | epaphus | thanks+ |
| 18:39.28 | nirazio | I want to encrypt my new external hard drive so it would be readable/writable on any computer I plug it in. Can I do that? |
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| 18:39.45 | tbsaunde | nirazio: what OSes are involved? |
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| 18:40.17 | nirazio | tbsaunde: Windows and linux |
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| 18:42.00 | tbsaunde | nirazio: unless ntfs3g supports encrypted ntfs I think you out of luck for windows |
| 18:42.10 | h3sp4wn | nirazio: Try truecrypt |
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| 18:43.10 | nirazio | h3sp4wn: So if i use truecrypt can i access my harddrive in any computer?? |
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| 18:45.08 | h3sp4wn | nirazio: It supports both windows and linux |
| 18:46.41 | Vorbote | nirazio, cryptsetup (dm-cypt+LUKS) and FreeOTFE. Truecrypt you have to compile and install by hand. |
| 18:47.51 | nirazio | Vorbote: What i want is i want to encrypt my new external hard drive so it would be readable/writable on any computer I plug it in. |
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| 18:48.53 | Vorbote | nirazio, that's impossible. You need to install some sort of block encryptio software in the computer. It so happens that it is part of the default install in Debian. |
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| 18:50.32 | Vorbote | nirazio, you just need to install the userspace tools. And there are several. |
| 18:51.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | he wants to eat the cake and have it, too |
| 18:51.50 | h3sp4wn | Windows you probably need admin as well |
| 18:51.51 | nirazio | Vorbote: what is userspace tools? |
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| 18:52.14 | Shadow` | awesome, /list is useless on xchat |
| 18:52.29 | Vorbote | nirazio, the applications that allows you to use facilities provided by the kernel. |
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| 18:52.58 | abrotman | Shadow`: /msg alis help |
| 18:53.22 | Shadow` | cool, thanks |
| 18:53.41 | Vorbote | nirazio, the kernel space is privileged and cannot be accessed directly. |
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| 18:54.02 | nirazio | Thankyou Vorbote |
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| 18:56.17 | Vorbote | nirazio, following that train of thought, cryptsetup allows you to use dm-crypt and LUKS to encrypt a disk volume and manage the encryptio keys. FreeOTFE uses the same encryption tech to access those encrypted volumes under windows. |
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| 18:57.16 | nirazio | Alright :) will give a shot |
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| 18:59.01 | Alan502 | I'm planning to move from ubuntu to debian, ubuntu is unstable and i don't like having to update my os every 6 months |
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| 18:59.23 | Alan502 | which would be the pros/cons i should take into account? |
| 18:59.39 | ThePub | Alan502: why wouldn't you have to update your OS with dbian? |
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| 19:00.00 | Alan502 | ThePub, of course i would have to but not as often |
| 19:00.09 | Alan502 | ThePub, ubuntu gets a new release every 6 months |
| 19:00.17 | Alan502 | ThePub, which becomes kind of tedious |
| 19:00.24 | abrotman | Alan502: if you run stable, you'll whine software is old |
| 19:00.30 | abrotman | (though it is stable) |
| 19:00.53 | Alan502 | abrotman, but the repositories are quite updated right? |
| 19:01.36 | abrotman | quite? |
| 19:01.53 | abrotman | !meaning of stable |
| 19:01.53 | dpkg | "Stable" is a release, and it does not change much at all over its lifetime. There is a known set of bugs, and it gets security updates, and point releases. Some will consider this as 'stale', while others consider this one of the great advantages of Debian. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-getting#s-updatestable |
| 19:02.06 | aidaho | almost ready for old stable dinasaur age software on desktop |
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| 19:02.28 | aidaho | just waiting for squeeze release to try |
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| 19:04.02 | Alan502 | abrotman, so, basically, if i get the lastest release i'll get old software on the repositories? |
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| 19:04.21 | Alan502 | *i don't get |
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| 19:04.53 | ThePub | Alan502: No, you will get STABLE software. Debian doesn't target the latest-and-the-greatest in the stable release. Ubuntu is more like an integrated Debian |
| 19:04.56 | ThePub | Sid |
| 19:05.22 | Alan502 | Oh i see |
| 19:05.28 | Alan502 | Well, I'll consider it |
| 19:05.32 | Alan502 | Thanks |
| 19:05.55 | abrotman | Alan502: check it out in a VM .. also be aware that squeeze is due to be released "real soon now" .. |
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| 19:06.31 | Alan502 | abrotman, ok, I think i'll wait for the new release to test it |
| 19:06.42 | dvs | tomorrow! ;-) |
| 19:06.52 | Alan502 | :D |
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| 19:07.09 | Alan502 | tommorrow is christmas though, so probably on sunday |
| 19:07.53 | dvs | oh? I guess it's today because it was suppose to be before Christmas! ;-) |
| 19:08.23 | nsadmin | whats the rc bug count? |
| 19:08.34 | D4rKr0W | Shadow`: i need to use it on a dedicated box, im not sure i can launch vlc on terminal |
| 19:08.35 | D4rKr0W | can i? |
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| 19:11.04 | Shadow` | vlc has a terminal mode aswell |
| 19:12.18 | aidaho | 171 bug to go |
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| 19:12.58 | h3sp4wn | D4rKr0W: You can use the ascii art output |
| 19:13.02 | D4rKr0W | lol |
| 19:13.06 | Shadow` | D4rKr0W, dont know what ur exactly looking for, but i used vlc from terminal before to stream from, and also to watch streams on |
| 19:13.21 | Shadow` | u dont need a GUI or video to run a stream with vlc |
| 19:13.43 | jeward_ | How do you get synaptic to shoose the fastest mirror like in full blown Ubuntu? |
| 19:13.44 | D4rKr0W | i need to stream live games |
| 19:13.47 | jeward_ | choose |
| 19:14.17 | h3sp4wn | D4rKr0W: from one place to another ? |
| 19:14.30 | D4rKr0W | i have one person recording it and uploading it to the dedicated box, that will be streaming back on a website |
| 19:14.31 | serveboy99 | Say I want to use a version of findutils compiled from source, will that be a problem for Debian's package manager since I will be overwriting the binary? |
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| 19:14.41 | h3sp4wn | D4rKr0W: better offr using ffserver |
| 19:14.48 | D4rKr0W | ffserver? |
| 19:15.06 | cirwin | serveboy99: just compile it into a different directory |
| 19:15.08 | h3sp4wn | The server part of ffmpeg |
| 19:15.17 | D4rKr0W | seems just what i am looking for |
| 19:15.23 | serveboy99 | cirwin: alright, like run it from the build dir? |
| 19:15.37 | cirwin | or install it to ~/bin |
| 19:15.58 | h3sp4wn | D4rKr0W: You might need the version from debian-multimedia.org (depending on what encoders you want to use) |
| 19:16.00 | cirwin | but overriding the inbuilt binary shouldn't cause everything to suddenly break — but your binary may get overridden later i suppose |
| 19:16.16 | D4rKr0W | h3sp4wn: i see |
| 19:16.44 | serveboy99 | cirwin: hmmm, the ~/bin idea sounds interesting. Is that a common location for user binaries? Everywhere I see /usr/local/bin |
| 19:16.50 | jeward_ | Uhoh, synaptic is displaying a user agreement screen in details that I can't respond to. |
| 19:17.04 | D4rKr0W | h3sp4wn: hope that repository is compatible with lenny |
| 19:17.06 | cirwin | serveboy99: ~/bin has the advantage that you don't need root access |
| 19:17.19 | cirwin | (but you probably need to add it to your PATH) |
| 19:17.20 | h3sp4wn | D4rKr0W: Yeah it is (and likely more upto date) |
| 19:17.25 | jeward_ | Should I stop synaptic and update from the command line? |
| 19:17.51 | h3sp4wn | D4rKr0W: (The same packages are provided at the same versions for all branches) |
| 19:18.03 | D4rKr0W | h3sp4wn: know any tips to record and send the video feed to ffserver? |
| 19:18.07 | jelly-home | jeward_: user agreement screen? |
| 19:18.13 | serveboy99 | cirwin: yep, and I could simply add it to path. |
| 19:18.27 | jelly-home | jeward_: can you see which package is it for? |
| 19:19.06 | jeward_ | jelly-home: ttf-mscorefonts-installer |
| 19:19.32 | jelly-home | oh, ok. You'll be able to install that from the command line |
| 19:19.43 | jeward_ | So cancel synaptic? |
| 19:19.58 | jeward_ | It's in the process of installing wine. |
| 19:20.18 | jelly-home | sure, it won't hurt much |
| 19:20.36 | jeward_ | Hmm, can't cancel. |
| 19:20.57 | jelly-home | run in circles, scream and shout |
| 19:21.12 | jeward_ | jelly-home:Do you suggest killing it from the command line? |
| 19:21.24 | h3sp4wn | D4rKr0W: You want whatever input to be supported by video for linux (ideally version 2) probably) ffserver docs has quite a few examples of the server parts |
| 19:21.38 | h3sp4wn | D4rKr0W: The hard part is the v4l part |
| 19:21.44 | jelly-home | jeward_: nah, let it finish as much as it can |
| 19:21.57 | D4rKr0W | v4l? |
| 19:22.11 | jeward_ | jelly-home: That's just it, it's stuck waiting for a response to the EULA. |
| 19:22.15 | D4rKr0W | video 4 linux? |
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| 19:23.47 | jelly-home | jeward_: can you close the window? |
| 19:24.00 | serveboy99 | If I put a process inthe background and it's writing to stdout, is there a limit to how much it can write or will whatever it outputs be saved somehwere? |
| 19:24.31 | cirwin | how did you put it in the background? |
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| 19:25.35 | h3sp4wn | How can debian have vlc in main (and it plays h264) but yet x264 cannot be packaged ? |
| 19:25.53 | jeward_ | jelly-home: No, I had to kill it and remove the lock. And now that package is messed up. |
| 19:27.22 | jelly-home | jeward_: dpkg --configure -a |
| 19:28.09 | jeward_ | jelly-home: Yeah, tried that. I guess I'll reinstall real quick and do things from the cli. |
| 19:28.21 | jeward_ | never liked synaptic anyway. |
| 19:28.29 | jeward_ | Be right back. |
| 19:28.33 | jelly-home | jeward_: tried that and what exactly happened? |
| 19:28.59 | jeward_ | jelly-home: I tried the dplkg, and a bunch of packages show errors. |
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| 19:29.48 | jelly-home | jeward_: can you pastebin the complete output |
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| 19:32.20 | ksk | hello there |
| 19:32.45 | serveboy99 | ciwin: binary & |
| 19:33.01 | jeward_ | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/7N45WKuy |
| 19:33.12 | ksk | i got a qestion about "namespaces" |
| 19:33.17 | tbsaunde | serveboy99: then stdout will still write to your terminal |
| 19:33.17 | jeward_ | jelly-home: Looks pretty messed up to me./ |
| 19:33.24 | ksk | http://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1733 ; comment6 |
| 19:33.32 | ksk | any idea what hes talking about? :x |
| 19:34.27 | serveboy99 | tbsaunde: hmmm, how to make it write to /dev/null while in the background? |
| 19:34.57 | jelly-home | jeward_: which debian release is this? |
| 19:35.20 | jeward_ | jelly-home: Oh crap, I'm in the wrong channel, sorry! |
| 19:36.24 | jelly-home | I'd be quite happy if any Debian release carried a "wine1.3", but it doesn't |
| 19:37.10 | tbsaunde | serveboy99: >/dev/null same as normal |
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| 19:38.33 | serveboy99 | tsaunde: but I want to be able to see the output when I call it to foreground |
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| 19:40.03 | tbsaunde | serveboy99: afaik you can't do that |
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| 19:41.05 | serveboy99 | tbsaunde: hmm |
| 19:41.41 | rigved | can anyone tell me when will debian squeeze move to release phase? |
| 19:42.05 | jelly-home | rigved: when it's ready. |
| 19:42.19 | jelly-home | !wwsr |
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| 19:42.19 | dpkg | Squeeze is now frozen and will release <WIR>, <SIYH>, perhaps by Christmas 2010 if you help ... http://lists.debian.org/20101005202925.GU4622@halon.org.uk. See http://lists.debian.org/20100806134418.GC9183@halon.org.uk and http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20101116b . See also <guess the release date>. |
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| 19:44.14 | bluefawks | i'm aware this might sound like a noob question, but.. i've been using and setting up debian for years for my web/email/ftp server, but how does one do a full system-wide backup of a linux system that can be restored as-is to another hard drive later in the possible event of a hard drive failure? |
| 19:44.32 | rigved | jelly-home: ok. thanx. i had seen on the website that development on squeeze was frozen. just wondering when it's moving out. so it's pretty soon. can't wait. :) |
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| 19:47.39 | _stefanos_ | guys, where shall i place the CLASSPATH for Java? |
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| 19:48.06 | _stefanos_ | I have been struggling for hours now to make it work |
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| 19:48.48 | vsmatck | Hm. Rebooting squeeze is waaaaaay faster than rebooting lenny. Cool how free software sometimes gets faster over time. :) |
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| 19:49.14 | Fare | what's a TPU upload? |
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| 19:49.28 | nsadmin | an upload of a tpu? |
| 19:49.36 | Fare | what's a tpu? |
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| 19:49.41 | Fare | dpkg doesn't know |
| 19:49.41 | dpkg | doesn't know is probably not at all |
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| 19:49.45 | nsadmin | great question :) |
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| 19:50.14 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions apache2-mpm-prefork |
| 19:50.16 | judd | Package apache2-mpm-prefork on i386 -- etch: 2.2.3-4+etch11; etch-security: 2.2.3-4+etch11; lenny-security: 2.2.9-10+lenny7; lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.2.16-4~bpo50+1; sid: 2.2.16-4; squeeze: 2.2.16-4 |
| 19:50.31 | nsadmin | _stefanos_, what do you mean where |
| 19:50.58 | _stefanos_ | where should be placed? in /etc/profile? in ~/.profile? in ~/.bashrc? |
| 19:51.52 | nsadmin | http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2004/09/msg00161.html |
| 19:52.08 | nsadmin | apparantly this is an example of a tpu upload |
| 19:52.29 | nsadmin | maybe it's in the packaging manual, policy or new maint guide |
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| 19:53.00 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions apache2-mpm-worker |
| 19:53.02 | judd | Package apache2-mpm-worker on i386 -- etch: 2.2.3-4+etch11; etch-security: 2.2.3-4+etch11; lenny-security: 2.2.9-10+lenny7; lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.2.16-4~bpo50+1; sid: 2.2.16-4; squeeze: 2.2.16-4 |
| 19:53.04 | nsadmin | _stefanos_: why do you need a different classpath? |
| 19:53.12 | Fare | nsadmin, yes, I googled it first. |
| 19:53.21 | _stefanos_ | nsadmin, i don't use a different classpath |
| 19:53.35 | _stefanos_ | i just want to add there a directory of a source code to make it work |
| 19:53.56 | _stefanos_ | i am learning Java and I need to add the directory of the project to classpath to make it work |
| 19:54.10 | nsadmin | howbout in ~you/.bash_profile |
| 19:54.42 | jelly-home | Fare: dunno, testing-proposed-updates? What's the context for your question? |
| 19:54.58 | _stefanos_ | .profile says that if I place something in .bash_profile, .profile would get ignored |
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| 19:55.07 | nsadmin | you can also supply classpath on java cmd line |
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| 19:55.25 | jhutchins_lt | I wonder how much of a pain it is to convert a site from prefork to worker. |
| 19:55.26 | _stefanos_ | i prefer to add it to classpath |
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| 19:56.30 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: if it doesn't use threading-incapable modules (mod_php5), just install it? :-D |
| 19:56.56 | jhutchins_lt | Ah. php. Well, it's mostly a drupal site, so I guess thats right out, |
| 19:57.05 | jhutchins_lt | Rats. |
| 19:57.23 | _stefanos_ | ls |
| 19:57.23 | Fare | testing-proposed-updates is probably it! |
| 19:57.43 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: it's not php5 own fault to be honest; only some extensions are non-thread-safe but don't ask me which ones |
| 19:57.53 | Fare | will current tpu uploads make it to the next official release? |
| 19:58.06 | nsadmin | who knows' |
| 19:58.22 | jhutchins_lt | Sigh. #drupal-support is about as helpful as a wet klenex on a forest fire. |
| 19:58.30 | nsadmin | that would be a matter of negotiation |
| 19:59.25 | nsadmin | use the power of the forest fire to wake em up! |
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| 20:01.19 | em | nsadmin: I'm awake! |
| 20:01.48 | beardy | waves to em |
| 20:02.52 | em | Hey there beardy |
| 20:03.07 | nsadmin | em: yay! |
| 20:03.43 | em | hehe |
| 20:04.14 | nsadmin | so we succeeded to wake em up... now ask em about drupal! |
| 20:04.39 | jhutchins_lt | em: Will drupal run on threaded apache? |
| 20:05.03 | em | Yep Im pretty sure it will. |
| 20:05.12 | jhutchins_lt | Doesn't have to be -prefork? |
| 20:05.16 | nsadmin | isn't drupal a web framework? |
| 20:05.28 | jhutchins_lt | LAMP |
| 20:07.19 | jhutchins_lt | I've got a spare box, I guess I could try it. |
| 20:07.36 | nirazio | Getting this error on accessing my FTP server "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root" Someone help me pls... |
| 20:07.54 | jhutchins_lt | Probably better that than trying to switch on the live webserver. |
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| 20:08.13 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, I can grab an image of the current install and do a test upgrade at home. |
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| 20:10.04 | rigved | nirazio: have you been able to connect to this FTP server before? |
| 20:10.45 | nirazio | rigved: Yes |
| 20:11.10 | rigved | nirazio: using the same username and password? |
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| 20:11.24 | rigved | nirazio: did you change any settings recently? |
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| 20:11.50 | nirazio | rigved: No i haven't changed any settings |
| 20:11.57 | pinkisntwell | is there any reason that could make a debian system run hotter than windows on the same hardware? I have a laptop whose fan seems to be working much more in debian than in windows |
| 20:12.39 | h3sp4wn | pinkisntwell: broken acpi tables that work by accident in windows |
| 20:12.44 | rigved | nirazio: try accessing it using a different username and password |
| 20:12.51 | h3sp4wn | or hacked around in the windows drivers |
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| 20:13.18 | pinkisntwell | h3sp4wn: so whose fault is it? |
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| 20:14.16 | h3sp4wn | pinkisntwell: hardware manufacturer |
| 20:14.30 | abrotman | pinkisntwell: make sure you have the supporting acpi packages installed, and possibly configure cpu stepping |
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| 20:14.47 | h3sp4wn | pinkisntwell: Need a new bios to fix it or some specific quirk added to the kernel |
| 20:14.51 | rigved | nirazio: if you are able to access using a new andf different username, then your older username has some permission problems. |
| 20:15.26 | rigved | nirazio: gtg. bye and all the best! |
| 20:15.42 | nirazio | goodnight :) |
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| 20:20.30 | jelly-home | pinkisntwell: microsoft works with hardware vendors to make sure their new hardware works well. In addition, most vendors, especially for cheaper hardware, only test it to run with Windows OSes. |
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| 20:22.01 | jelly-home | pinkisntwell: sometimes, newer kernels gain workarounds for broken hardware or firmware, so a simple thing to try might be to use a newer backported kernel |
| 20:22.22 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell pinkisntwell about bpo kernel |
| 20:22.27 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell pinkisntwell about bpo |
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| 20:23.14 | h3sp4wn | Is there anywhere other than the wiki page that lists Debian specific ipv6 related information |
| 20:23.58 | h3sp4wn | (given its a release goal) |
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| 20:24.44 | pinkisntwell | jelly-home: i guess i'll wait for squeeze |
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| 20:27.31 | jelly-home | it's a plan |
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| 20:30.41 | nsisodiya | #flood |
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| 20:32.15 | systm | i'm trying to instal flash, i've added backports, i've tried flashplugin-nonfree, i looked at the instructions for backports, but it's still unable to find the package. |
| 20:32.38 | jhutchins_lt | pinkisntwell: It's probably a good idea to search linux forums for your laptop's make and model. Look for specific ways to address the problem, like using the cpufreq utility to throttle the CPU. |
| 20:33.20 | jhutchins_lt | pinkisntwell: You can look at the kernel changelogs for changes that affect your specific chipsets. |
| 20:33.57 | nsisodiya | Debian is best Operating system.,,, but why it is not so papular.. |
| 20:34.07 | systm | nsisodiya: gentoo. |
| 20:34.15 | jhutchins_lt | pinkisntwell: Also figure out if something's causing a heavy CPU load. |
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| 20:35.16 | nsisodiya | systm, is it so ?? I have remix a distro based on Ubuntu,,now i am thinking to switch over debian.,,,, what should i use ? |
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| 20:35.34 | jhutchins_lt | As h3sp4wn suggested it's always a good idea to make sure you have the latest BIOS available from the manufacturer. They very often update the BIOS after the laptops hit the stores. |
| 20:36.48 | systm | nsisodiya: how much work do you want to put into your system? if you have the time, gentoo is fun, but lots of work, and can be prone to breakage. Ubuntu is like the windows version of linux imho, but it's kinda bloated unless you do a customized install. debian has been fun, but it's quite different then gentoo to me, as thats what im used to. try them if you have the time |
| 20:37.37 | jhutchins_lt | nsisodiya: Debian's pretty popular, especially as a server. |
| 20:38.16 | systm | nsisodiya: also, debian/ubuntu are binary based distros, gentoo is source based, and as such, has to compile everything from source, so that takes quite a bit longer, as in hours for somethings, depending on processing power. you can enable binary for gentoo, but i've never done that. |
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| 20:38.20 | jhutchins_lt | nsisodiya: People who think newer is always better don't like it because they think the packages are too old, but that means they're well tested and patched. |
| 20:38.45 | systm | jhutchins_lt: agreed, gentoo has the ability to be bleeding edge, but it's not alway fun |
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| 20:39.28 | jhutchins_lt | had to maintain some gentoo 2.4 servers for several years, it was NOT fun. |
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| 20:39.57 | nsisodiya | Thanks jhutchins_lt systm , but The distro which i am remixing will go to schools, at large scale in India, I am working very hard to make most simple Distro for school kids and school which do not have internet |
| 20:40.15 | maligor | debian is a practical choice for someone who wants a flexible and stable setup |
| 20:40.47 | h3sp4wn | If its not likely to be able to be patched Debian is a good choice (or Centos 6 when its released) |
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| 20:42.58 | nsisodiya | have a look at wiki.schoolos.org , this is my project |
| 20:44.13 | jhutchins_lt | There's a company here in K.C. that does an LTSP system for schools, they got absorbed by Novell/SuSE. |
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| 20:44.44 | nsisodiya | Novell is M$ :( |
| 20:45.28 | jhutchins_lt | No, Novell is SuSE Linux |
| 20:46.10 | nsisodiya | yes but M$ has its presence inside Novell, and it promote mono .. |
| 20:46.49 | jhutchins_lt | <- NCE, MSP |
| 20:47.09 | jhutchins_lt | MCP |
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| 20:47.29 | abrotman | Master Control Program ? |
| 20:48.44 | phogg | Oh crap! Where's Bruce Boxleitner when you need him? |
| 20:48.58 | pinkisntwell | wait, i didn't know that my computer throttles the cpu frequency... |
| 20:49.41 | StateFarm | i got a refund after seeing that movie |
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| 20:50.22 | nsadmin | what, tron revisited? |
| 20:51.41 | nsadmin | shoulda got one after inception... talk about overacting... |
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| 20:53.19 | pinkisntwell | any information on how to go about getting frequency scaling to work on my cq60? i had no clue that frequency scaling exists |
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| 21:10.19 | tbsaunde | 0/part |
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| 21:20.34 | aguitel | anyone know bzr ? |
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| 21:22.56 | abrotman | aguitel: ask a better question |
| 21:23.42 | Big_Brother | Is there a recommended guide for installing Squeeze to a bootable usb via win7? |
| 21:23.44 | aguitel | abrotman, about this:https://code.launchpad.net/grub-customizer |
| 21:26.58 | jhutchins_lt | What determines skype's framerate? |
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| 21:27.28 | jhutchins_lt | Big_Brother: Do you want the installer on USB or do you want a "live" system? |
| 21:28.01 | Big_Brother | Jhutchins_lt: a USB like a netinst disk. |
| 21:28.48 | jhutchins_lt | !usb install |
| 21:28.48 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
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| 21:29.16 | jhutchins_lt | Big_Brother: unetbootin works well from linux, we've seen some problems with the windows version. |
| 21:29.42 | abrotman | aguitel: and what? |
| 21:29.42 | jhutchins_lt | (Unetbootin creates an installer) |
| 21:32.34 | h3sp4wn | Big_Brother: there is LiLi USB Creator also |
| 21:33.46 | jhutchins_lt | h3sp4wn: Haven't seen any reports of that here. |
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| 21:35.58 | n-iCe | will grep -i -R 'text' look for a text in any folder in any file? |
| 21:36.22 | jhutchins_lt | n-iCe: Not quite. |
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| 21:36.25 | sedulous | i have a file "MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex", already in PAL resolution. how can I turn this into a Video DVD? |
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| 21:36.40 | n-iCe | jhutchins_lt what would you use? |
| 21:36.44 | h3sp4wn | jhutchins_lt: you can just give it an iso (however i wouldn't say its better or worse than unetbootin) |
| 21:36.58 | jhutchins_lt | nick_h: Well, you need to specify where it's supposed to look. |
| 21:37.56 | h3sp4wn | If I had that particular issue I would probably install grml from windows and use the debian2hd script on there to install plain Debian |
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| 21:39.17 | tuggle | Are there any reasons not to put a swap partition into an lvm while encrypting the drive? |
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| 21:50.31 | infinity0 | flvs from youtube used to be saved to /tmp/, now they aren't there any more... anyone know where the new storage location is? |
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| 21:53.57 | carandraug | I just bought a new computer. Came with windows 7 installed. On vista it used to say that I had to ask the manufacturer to get return windows. It worked, they had to. Now it says to contact them to talk about return policy which may include them asking to return the system where it was installed |
| 21:54.11 | carandraug | has anyone done it with windows 7? |
| 21:55.05 | jhutchins_lt | carandraug: I have been told by MicroCenter that Windows can't be returned. |
| 21:55.19 | jhutchins_lt | carandraug: preinstalled w7 that is. |
| 21:55.49 | carandraug | jhutchins_lt, but it's one of the lines. That you can return it. It may however ask them to return the computer |
| 21:56.11 | abrotman | what does this have to do with Debian ? |
| 21:56.32 | carandraug | jhutchins_lt, I thought the line was added before because they were forced to. Otherwise was monopoly |
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| 21:57.00 | carandraug | abrotman, where else other than a free software company can I ask this kind of stuff? |
| 21:57.08 | jhutchins_lt | carandraug: abrotman's right, I'm in #debian-offtopic |
| 21:57.19 | carandraug | ok, I'll join it |
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| 21:59.07 | AimHere | I want to see documented evidence of people getting an OSX refund from Apple |
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| 22:03.48 | infinity0 | ah got my answer from http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/saving-flash-videos-in-linux/ |
| 22:03.57 | infinity0 | Navigate to /proc/`pgrep firefox`/fd/ now, ls -1 | grep \/tmp\/Flash |
| 22:03.57 | infinity0 | yay |
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| 22:04.50 | mama21mama | 0/ |
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| 22:06.30 | ksk | http://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1733 ; comment6 |
| 22:06.55 | ksk | any idea if this is my mistake or a bug? any useful documentation about these "namespaces"? |
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| 22:16.39 | thewanderer1 | ksk: namespace creation seems to be prohibited in OpenVZ since containers use some parts of namespaces in Linux |
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| 22:18.57 | jhutchins_lt | infinity0: what was the path again? |
| 22:19.07 | thewanderer1 | ksk: this is the same case as in LXC (#lxc), and the best doc would be a) http://lxc.sourceforge.net/index.php/about/kernel-namespaces/ b) OpenVZ source, which is by the way a huge mess but otherwise an interesting read (it's not just pure namespaces though) |
| 22:19.09 | infinity0 | jhutchins_lt: what? |
| 22:19.27 | jhutchins_lt | To the flv files? |
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| 22:22.00 | infinity0 | jhutchins_lt: do something like for i in $(command pgrep -f libflashplayer.so); do ls -l /proc/$i/fd/* | grep -i '/tmp/Flash'; done |
| 22:23.08 | infinity0 | jhutchins_lt: or run http://pastebin.com/hw9shUCX to create symlinks to the deleted files in the current directory |
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| 22:23.42 | infinity0 | oh wait that has a mistake in, it should say % (deleted) with a space between the % and ( |
| 22:24.25 | infinity0 | http://pastebin.com/pvCRqRyq there we go |
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| 22:41.37 | Godslastering | Does anyone know oof a way to take a screenshot without a window manager of a program running in a `screen`? |
| 22:42.44 | jhutchins_lt | Godslastering: Copy the text. |
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| 22:43.04 | Godslastering | jhutchins_lt: i need this to happen automatically, from within a script or the sort |
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| 22:43.54 | h3sp4wn | Godslastering: use tee |
| 22:44.04 | Godslastering | tee? |
| 22:44.19 | Godslastering | is this a standard package? |
| 22:44.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's part of coreutils |
| 22:44.40 | Godslastering | oh i see, |
| 22:44.46 | Godslastering | how does one get it to work for a "Screne" though? |
| 22:44.51 | Godslastering | s/screne/screen/ |
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| 22:45.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | screen can dump the scrollback to a file, too |
| 22:46.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | "man screen" |
| 22:46.17 | Godslastering | CutMeOwnThroat: i just need a snapshot, so i'll try using tee, but what device is a screen? |
| 22:47.11 | h3sp4wn | run - ksh | tee -a /var/adm/whatever.log (then you can still use the terminal but its logged) |
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| 22:47.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | tee just copies its input to a file and to stdout |
| 22:47.36 | cafuego | Godslastering: ^a - h does a hardcopy. (ascii text) |
| 22:47.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | it doesn't do "snapshots" as such |
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| 22:47.46 | cafuego | CutMeOwnThroat: yes it does. |
| 22:48.35 | Godslastering | h3sp4wn: i'ts already running with a "screen" |
| 22:48.37 | cafuego | But of course the hardcopy doesn't icnldue the history, only what's on screen now. |
| 22:48.49 | crazygir | hiya! I have a 20GB hard drive, with <10G of space partitioned/in use. This is a server, and so no X (which knocks out the familiar gparted for me), any other suggestions for sensibly created an additional extended partition in the usable free space? |
| 22:48.49 | Godslastering | i just need to perioically or on demand take a "screenshot" of the text, using `tee` apparently |
| 22:49.00 | cafuego | Godslastering: ^a h |
| 22:49.13 | CuBeTop | hi all! I've got problems with my Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller after upgrading my kernel. I couldn't get any sound from the speakers of the laptop, headphone jack works like charm. |
| 22:49.15 | Godslastering | cafuego: how am i to send ^a h TO a screen, and grab the contents? |
| 22:49.40 | cafuego | Godslastering: You attach to screen, type ctrl-a and then h. |
| 22:50.00 | CuBeTop | I've run alsactl init, it said it can't determine my soundcard, but used guessing method |
| 22:50.02 | Godslastering | cafuego: i guess you didn't read the part about me needing to do this periodically or on demandfrom a script |
| 22:50.17 | CuBeTop | now I have sounds from my speakers, but I'm afraid it'll go away on reboot |
| 22:50.40 | CuBeTop | how can I see what settings alsactl chosed, and how can I make them permanent? |
| 22:50.44 | jhutchins_lt | Godslastering: What kind of output are you trying to capture, and for what? |
| 22:50.50 | h3sp4wn | alsactl save |
| 22:51.04 | CuBeTop | store |
| 22:51.08 | cafuego | Godslastering: As per the man page -> screen -X "Send the specified command to a running screen session." |
| 22:51.18 | Rusty1_64 | crazygir: have you tried installing gparted? |
| 22:51.25 | Godslastering | jhutchins_lt: i'm running a program in a `screen` which has been detached, i need to periodically capture a screenshot (a text screenshot really) into a file, or buffer |
| 22:51.26 | cafuego | Godslastering: Alternatively, screen -L will log all output/ |
| 22:51.34 | Godslastering | cafuego: i can't restart the screen |
| 22:51.44 | cafuego | Godslastering: screen -X then |
| 22:51.45 | Godslastering | cafuego: i'll try screen -X, after i read that entry in the man page |
| 22:51.49 | nsadmin | Godslastering, then screen is not running? |
| 22:51.55 | CuBeTop | h3sp4wn, I can't see any difference in my alsabase-conf |
| 22:52.04 | crazygir | Rusty1_64: I have not, no, are there cli tools included? |
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| 22:52.25 | jhutchins_lt | crazygir: You want to run parted from a live CD or something anyway, not try to resize the OS it's running on. |
| 22:52.27 | Godslastering | nsadmin: it's detached, i can attach to it, with screen -R yes |
| 22:52.34 | nsadmin | Godslastering, perhaps reading the entire screen manual would be a good thing at this point |
| 22:52.53 | crazygir | I don't believe I need to resize anything |
| 22:52.57 | nsadmin | then you have your own independent view over what it can do |
| 22:52.59 | Rusty1_64 | crazygir: i believe that you can install it, and it wont require xserver, however it will bring in xlibs |
| 22:53.02 | cafuego | Godslastering: You will want to run 'seelct N' where N is the screen number and then "hardcopy FILENAME" |
| 22:53.03 | jhutchins_lt | What program, and what do you need to do with the output? |
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| 22:53.18 | crazygir | I think I can do this in fdisk, but it's more difficult to get it right when thinking about cylinders |
| 22:53.25 | Rusty1_64 | crazygir: you can then run it with ssh and X forwarding |
| 22:53.34 | jhutchins_lt | crazygir: fdisk will most likely nuke existing data. |
| 22:53.36 | crazygir | Rusty1_64: interesting idea |
| 22:53.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | cafuego, tee doesn't... screen would |
| 22:53.41 | Godslastering | cafuego: oh? this is in the screen -X? |
| 22:53.46 | crazygir | jhutchins_lt: how? |
| 22:53.51 | crazygir | I'm not resizing |
| 22:53.59 | jhutchins_lt | crazygir: Ah, I misunderstood. |
| 22:54.24 | Rusty1_64 | crazygir: there is also parted itself, man parted |
| 22:54.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | according to the spam I get, I should resize... oh well, forget that |
| 22:54.41 | crazygir | thanks |
| 22:54.54 | cafuego | Godslastering: If you only have 1 display in the screen, simply "screen -X hardcopy filename" will suffice. |
| 22:55.27 | Godslastering | cafuego: alright. |
| 22:55.58 | Godslastering | that is exactly what i was looking for, thanks cafuego |
| 22:56.36 | jhutchins_lt | suspects that someone's using a bomerang to tie a shoe. |
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| 23:00.02 | charles4lids | iceweasel downloaded file in three segments. How do I combine ? |
| 23:00.20 | abrotman | cat |
| 23:01.12 | charles4lids | they are binary. when I try that I get bad sha256sum. |
| 23:01.40 | jhutchins_lt | charles4lids: Maybe you should tell us what KIND of file they are. |
| 23:02.45 | charles4lids | "i2pinstall_0.8.2(3).exe: PE32 executable for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit |
| 23:03.53 | abrotman | that's not three segments |
| 23:04.20 | abrotman | that means you've downloaded it more than once .. check the sizes .. are any of them the same ? |
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| 23:06.40 | charles4lids | they are not same size and have different sha256sum's |
| 23:07.12 | jhutchins_lt | charles4lids: Do any of them have the correct checksum? |
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| 23:08.36 | jhutchins_lt | You probably have one or more aborted downloads, you might have one good one. |
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| 23:09.03 | jhutchins_lt | Unfortunately iceweasel isn't sophisticated enough to re-start a download, it just increments the filename. |
| 23:09.07 | charles4lids | the last shows correct in sha256sum but java -jar i2p... errors as corrupted file |
| 23:09.11 | jhutchins_lt | I believe wget will resume. |
| 23:09.26 | cafuego | wget -c will |
| 23:09.54 | jhutchins_lt | charles4lids: It should run in wine as an exe file, not a java file, is the file that results from running the installer the one that says it's corrupt? |
| 23:11.30 | jhutchins_lt | Sigh. |
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| 23:14.57 | taniamf | hello |
| 23:15.35 | taniamf | I'm here because i need a little help |
| 23:15.52 | taniamf | I install debian lenny but I have one problem |
| 23:16.13 | simonrvn | please state the nature of the problem |
| 23:16.44 | taniamf | my problem is the resolution |
| 23:16.59 | taniamf | of my screen |
| 23:17.23 | simonrvn | !ask |
| 23:17.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 23:18.35 | taniamf | you are right, all of you... sorry |
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| 23:20.06 | taniamf | well you see, I have installed the lastest version of debian wich is lenny and the os doesn't recognize the resolution of my screen 1440x900 |
| 23:20.52 | jhutchins_lt | taniamf: What's your hardware? Do you know what video chipset you have? |
| 23:20.57 | taniamf | I have all ready try to configure the xorg.conf file but nothing |
| 23:21.07 | taniamf | well I have a dell vostro 220s |
| 23:21.39 | taniamf | but the thing is |
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| 23:23.08 | jhutchins | taniamf: Go ahead and use one line for a complete sentence instead of hitting enter so often. |
| 23:23.22 | jhutchins | taniamf: lspci | grep VGA will tell you what your video hardware is. |
| 23:23.45 | taniamf | sorry |
| 23:23.52 | taniamf | I kind new on this |
| 23:24.00 | taniamf | well not so new |
| 23:24.55 | taniamf | I have a "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)" |
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| 23:26.37 | taniamf | I have seen so many forums and they have information but nothing that i can use |
| 23:27.21 | taniamf | in fact i'm using fedora 14, I prefer this by the moment |
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| 23:29.32 | taniamf | but when I conect a video projector, it works good, I guess thats because the resolution change |
| 23:29.39 | nsadmin | taniamf, two things... one, people here don't want to have to learn fedora in order to help someone... if you find someone great... |
| 23:29.55 | taniamf | I know |
| 23:30.12 | nsadmin | two, lspci -nn would be a more useful line to show |
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| 23:30.23 | taniamf | I got the cd of debian in my hand waiting for a solution |
| 23:31.18 | nsadmin | know that you can run anything that you want, anything that makes you happy, anything that works for you |
| 23:31.37 | abrotman | turn back time? |
| 23:31.57 | nsadmin | taniamf, so, curious. why debian if fedora works? |
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| 23:33.23 | Aenigma | during update for squeeze, gnome got marked for removal. should I be worried? |
| 23:33.40 | taniamf | because debian is stable so much stable |
| 23:34.10 | nsadmin | what attracts you to the stability? |
| 23:34.26 | abrotman | Aenigma: you can reinstall it later |
| 23:34.52 | taniamf | actually is the distro that I want to install but thanks to that little problem I'm in here asking |
| 23:35.16 | nsadmin | "debian is more stable" is moreorless true, but it's so general that I have no clue what you actually want |
| 23:36.25 | Aenigma | abrotman: I was wondering how all these gnome applications that were about to be installed will be able to sustain without gnome. |
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| 23:37.43 | nsadmin | so I'm trying to supply storage to a kvm guest which is to be a squeeze. one thing I dn't understand is what exactly does the guest see |
| 23:38.05 | nsadmin | and how would it be provided to the guest, which sees no disk at the moment |
| 23:38.05 | jhutchins | taniamf: I know there's a 99% chance you won't try what I suggest, but make sure your BIOS is up to date first, then use something like xrandr to try to set your resolution. You do not an xorg.conf file for the M4 in Debian. |
| 23:38.48 | taniamf | ok |
| 23:39.01 | taniamf | I will try.. don't worry |
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| 23:39.54 | taniamf | I maybe kind of newbie on this but i'm learning |
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| 23:43.33 | taniamf | to answer the question |
| 23:43.40 | Godslastering | How do i remove a directory that's acting as a file system loop? it doesn't seem to be symlinked. i'm getting "File system loop detected; `/export` is part of the same file system loop as `/`" |
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| 23:43.46 | Godslastering | if i try to remove it it says the device is busy |
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| 23:44.28 | taniamf | debian is the more stable it doesn't have that kind of actualizations, such like ubuntu or fedora wich is all days |
| 23:45.07 | taniamf | and yes I have tried many distros and debian is the more appropriate |
| 23:45.10 | taniamf | so |
| 23:45.59 | taniamf | I got to check if the BIOS is up to date and then xrandr |
| 23:46.10 | taniamf | what if doesn't work? |
| 23:47.23 | taniamf | which file I got to modify |
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| 23:48.00 | Godslastering | how do you remove a filesystem loop? /export apparently points to / for some reason, as does /share (it also points to /) and i can't jsut "rm" it because the device is busy" |
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| 23:49.00 | abrotman | Godslastering: type 'mount' .. do you see it in there? |
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| 23:51.18 | Godslastering | yaeh / is mounted on /share and / is mounted on /export |
| 23:51.19 | Godslastering | o.o |
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| 23:51.37 | Godslastering | umount /sharE? |
| 23:51.59 | taniamf | thanks to all the people who answer me |
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| 23:52.15 | KB1JWQ | Fail! |
| 23:52.27 | taniamf | jhutchins gives me the answer I need |
| 23:52.44 | abrotman | Godslastering: umount /export/ ? |
| 23:53.05 | taniamf | jhutchins: thanks |
| 23:53.12 | Rusty1_64 | /join KB1JWQ: |
| 23:53.17 | taniamf | and thanks you all |
| 23:53.20 | Godslastering | thanks abrotman ill check my mtab tho to make sure it doesn't automount them for some dumb reason |
| 23:53.27 | taniamf | have a good night |
| 23:53.55 | Godslastering | thanks abrotman , i was afraid to proceeed because i didn't want to umount / also |
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| 23:54.12 | nsadmin | Godslastering, /etc/fstab, man 5 fstab |
| 23:54.33 | nsadmin | it's very hard to umount / |
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