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| 00:02.00 | aladds | dondelelcaro: It is the kernel, it's a hacked Android kernel which has patches for socket creation...such that only root can make sockets :-/ I'm going to have a play with the sources :-) |
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| 00:08.11 | dondelelcaro | aladds: yeah, that'd do it. It's probably pretty broken if it doesn't support setuid completely either |
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| 00:16.52 | CarlFK | sudo apt-get install python-setuptools; pycentral: pycentral pkginstall: not overwriting local files http://dpaste.de/IbpL/ |
| 00:17.08 | CarlFK | um... now what? |
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| 00:29.19 | jordanm | CarlFK: finish upgrading your likely broken system? |
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| 00:30.40 | CarlFK | jordanm: I did have trouble with python-setuptools. apt-get remove/install seemed to fix it. then re-ran the postgres.. hmm. I didn't R&R pg... lets try that.. /me stomps all over the server like I am making wine... |
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| 00:32.13 | jordanm | CarlFK: what version of debian are you running? |
| 00:32.15 | CarlFK | apt-get remove postgresql/ install postgresql = no change |
| 00:32.17 | CarlFK | lenny |
| 00:32.53 | CarlFK | Unpacking postgresql (from .../postgresql_8.3.12-0lenny1_all.deb) ... |
| 00:33.07 | jordanm | CarlFK: pastebin 'apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy libc6 python-setuptools' |
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| 00:34.05 | CarlFK | jordanm: http://dpaste.de/hZui/ |
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| 00:36.44 | jordanm | CarlFK: you should install your security upgrades. python-setuptools is already installed, what did you do? |
| 00:38.35 | CarlFK | jordanm: nothing special: http://dpaste.de/SfDk/ |
| 00:40.07 | jordanm | CarlFK: what is the problem with the already installed python-setuptools? did that easy_install command fail? |
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| 00:44.22 | CarlFK | jordanm: I needed that dance to get a more recent version of virtualenv |
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| 00:45.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions python-virtualenv |
| 00:45.32 | judd | Package python-virtualenv on i386 -- lenny: 1.1-1; sid: 1.4.9-3; squeeze: 1.4.9-3 |
| 00:45.54 | bint | hey i did read the manpage of chown but i can't find it.. what does the -v stand for if i go for a "chown -R -v bint foldername" |
| 00:46.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | why don't you find it? |
| 00:46.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess what the next line says |
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| 00:46.55 | bint | hmm |
| 00:47.00 | bint | what what does verbose mean :D? |
| 00:47.17 | jordanm | CarlFK: I guess I still don't understand where the problem is. I see that it fails to reinstall python-setuptools, but is there another problem? |
| 00:47.47 | CarlFK | jordanm: postgresql conf dir is missing, server didn't start |
| 00:47.57 | jordanm | !tell CarlFK about confmiss |
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| 00:49.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | duh, it fails because of the locale? |
| 00:50.07 | jordanm | pycompile -p python-setuptools failed because of locales? |
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| 00:50.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | I dunno... perhaps I missed something, did you already deal with the stuff in http://dpaste.de/IbpL/? |
| 00:51.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory" doesn't make much sense to me |
| 00:51.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | how can setting an environment variable fail with "no such file..." |
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| 00:52.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | only if that would be coupled with a check/load of the locale from some file, which is missing? |
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| 00:56.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps "dpkg-reconfigure locales" would help? |
| 00:58.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, but... right... the "not overwriting local files" is probably unrelated to all that locale stuff |
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| 01:00.51 | rysiek|pl | guys, is upgrading from etch to lenny still viable? |
| 01:01.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | !etch->lenny |
| 01:01.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, etch->lenny |
| 01:01.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | grrr |
| 01:01.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | rysiek|pl, yes |
| 01:01.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, etch->lenny |
| 01:01.30 | dpkg | Read the release notes, ask me about <lenny release notes>. Ensure your Etch installation is up to date, ask me about <etch sources.list> (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Then ask me about <lenny sources.list>. aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask me about <apt-listbugs>, <etch->lenny key>. |
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| 01:03.08 | rysiek|pl | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks a bunch |
| 01:03.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell CarlFK -about postrm |
| 01:04.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | CarlFK, wel, this is postinstallation script in the same directory... and you don't want to null the file in your case |
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| 01:05.38 | CarlFK | CutMeOwnThroat: what about "dpkg-reconfigure locales" ? |
| 01:05.50 | CarlFK | I was hoping for some chatter about that plan |
| 01:06.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | sorry... I got distracted by the warning about locales... my fault |
| 01:07.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | you might look why that happens anyway |
| 01:07.06 | CarlFK | I want my money back ;) |
| 01:07.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | right |
| 01:07.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | there you go, sir |
| 01:07.17 | CarlFK | yay! |
| 01:07.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | in squeeze, the postinst runs: pycompile -p python-setuptools |
| 01:08.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | and that is what seems to fail for you |
| 01:08.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | because of python stuff you already have(??) |
| 01:08.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | so figure out why that fails |
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| 01:08.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | the postinst script is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-setuptools.postinst |
| 01:09.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | just in case yours in lenny differs |
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| 01:10.08 | Cain | Hi, from time to time i shutdown a remote server by mistake... so i'm wondering if i can 'disable' the shutdown function do avoid this mistake ? |
| 01:10.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | I dunno... perhaps you had some python stuff installed outside packaging but in the same place the stuff from the package would go... and pycentral refuses to overwrite those |
| 01:10.20 | Cain | s/do/to |
| 01:10.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | how do you shut it down by mistake? |
| 01:10.53 | Cain | shutdown -h now |
| 01:11.04 | Cain | when i want to shutdown the local one |
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| 01:12.00 | Cain | i mean i put the command in the wron ssh window |
| 01:12.01 | jelly-home | Cain: how about putting the hostname in the prompt instead, or not being root unless you have to? |
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| 01:13.25 | Cain | jelly-home : i have the host in the prompt, but i need to use root account when i need it only i guess ^^ |
| 01:13.32 | jelly-home | don't leave active root shells lying around |
| 01:13.41 | dvs | Cain: if it's a PC, there are some BIOSes that you can set to reboot instead of shutdown. |
| 01:14.01 | jelly-home | it can be as simple as switching to a non-root screen. |
| 01:14.14 | stew | today when I goofed with puppet and replaced a sudoers file i was hoppy that I had a root shell lying around by mistake :) |
| 01:14.25 | jelly-home | Cain: alternately, don't shutdown -r now, shutdown in 5 minutes instead |
| 01:15.07 | jelly-home | stew: "active" being a keyword... it can just mean switching to a non-root screen on the same machine |
| 01:15.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cain, something like... alias shutdown='echo sure you want to shut down $HOSTNAME; sleep 10; shutdown " |
| 01:15.14 | dvs | Cain: or type "hostname" before shutting down |
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| 01:15.53 | stew | jelly-home: i recently found that my wife had a copy of emacs running as root on a screen, and that emacs had been running for 3 years |
| 01:15.56 | jordanm | uname -n is safer. no chance of accidently changing your hostname |
| 01:16.06 | Cain | CutMeOwnThroat : exactly what i need ! |
| 01:16.10 | Cain | thx guys ^^ |
| 01:16.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cain, you need to modify that a bit, though... I doubt it runs exactly like this |
| 01:16.30 | Cain | the idea is here |
| 01:16.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I was too lazy to look up what you can use instead of $@ inside an alias |
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| 01:17.08 | jordanm | CutMeOwnThroat: you can just us a function instead |
| 01:17.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps want a function instead of an alias... and call from inside with /sbin/shutdown |
| 01:17.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | jordanm, I was coming to that! ;) |
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| 01:18.15 | Cain | CutMeOwnThroat : i can use the realname on alias inside a $ |
| 01:18.26 | Cain | s/inside/instead |
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| 01:26.56 | CarlFK | CutMeOwnThroat: my real problem is with postgresql, which I think is having the same problem with locals: http://dpaste.de/owpi/ apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install postgresql |
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| 01:27.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, but the locale thing is just a warning and probably unrelated to real problems you have |
| 01:28.24 | CarlFK | ah. shucks. |
| 01:28.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to see what locales are/should be available on your system |
| 01:28.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | and rebuilding them probably removes the warning |
| 01:28.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't see any errors in the last pastebin, though |
| 01:29.19 | CarlFK | CutMeOwnThroat: this isn't an error? locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
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| 01:29.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | as I said, I don't understand that |
| 01:30.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | but the script doesn't fail because of this, as you see it continues |
| 01:30.01 | jelly-home | stew: that's pretty much the opposite of a shutdown! |
| 01:30.06 | CarlFK | dpkg-reconfigure locales has 2 checked: en_AU.utf8 and en_GB.utf8 |
| 01:31.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, you should check en_US.utf8, that's what you have set |
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| 01:33.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I'm not sure what "C" translates into ... possibly en_US ISO-8859-1 |
| 01:34.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | or is it really called "C" |
| 01:35.34 | jelly-home | C is the default, POSIX locale. |
| 01:36.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, but does it translate in anything or does it have its own files? |
| 01:36.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | and how do you explain a message that says "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory" |
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| 01:37.59 | jelly-home | not having read the backlog, I can take an educated guess that last configured locales package doesn't match the current libc6 package in version, or that some of the locale settings are not valid wrt the current set of compiled locales |
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| 01:38.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I don't think it's really related to his current problem anyway, but it's a curious message |
| 01:39.10 | jelly-home | it's quite typical of a dist upgrade |
| 01:39.15 | sparc | Sorry for any cross-posting. If I want to create a preseed/run file, for *before* network configuration. Where would I put something like that? Does that belong in the initrd? |
| 01:39.37 | sparc | I'm looking to configure eth0, statically? |
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| 01:40.19 | botmind | Hi. I have just tried to install the .iso for squeeze, both debian-squeeze-di-beta2-i386-netinst.iso and debian-squeeze-di-beta2-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso and when I click on Install, Graphical install or whatever install it fails with incredible fast stream of kernel error message, the last one I can see at when it stops is "Bug: scheduling while atomic" |
| 01:40.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's a weird question... you want to configure networking before you configure networking? |
| 01:41.23 | sparc | yes! because i need a configured interface to fetch my kickstart file :( |
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| 01:41.24 | sparc | :) |
| 01:41.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | sparc, you configure networking in /etc/network/interfaces - if you need to run commands before what is done to bring the interface up anyway, there are pre-up commands |
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| 01:42.26 | sparc | i get how to configure the interfaces, i don't get where to put the commands to do it |
| 01:42.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | !kickstart |
| 01:42.41 | dpkg | KickStart is an automated installation method used by Red Hat Enterprise Linux, allowing installation of large numbers of identical Linux systems. A KickStart file can be loaded from an initrd via the 'initrd-kickseed' debian-installer udeb package. HOWTO homepage: http://wwwcache.ja.net/dev/kickstart/ . See also <fai>. |
| 01:42.44 | ajikeshi | O_o |
| 01:42.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, never used that |
| 01:42.59 | sparc | yes, i already have my kickstart configuration made |
| 01:43.08 | qq- | !fai |
| 01:43.08 | dpkg | [fai] Fully Automatic Installation, an automated tool to install or deploy Debian GNU/Linux (and other distributions) on a bunch of different hosts or a cluster. It is more flexible than tools like <kickstart> (Red Hat), autoyast and alice (SuSE) or jumpstart (Sun Solaris). FAI can also be used for configuration management of a running system. http://fai-project.org/ #fai on irc.oftc.net. |
| 01:43.10 | sparc | the installer can't fetch it, without a configured interface |
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| 01:44.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | doesn't the initrd-kickseed bit answer the question? |
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| 01:46.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, you mean that doesn't take care of bringing up the interface? |
| 01:46.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | aww, too tired |
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| 02:23.03 | tonytraductor | hello friends...does anybody know where to find the pkg "tile" (tiles windows)? I like to use it, and have it installed on my other debian box, but don't seem to have retained the original tarball I downloaded, and googling "tile" isn't getting me anywhere. |
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| 02:23.41 | nutron | I'm tentatively delving into the serial console like of crazyness. I just need one simple question answered. If I set agetty for a vt via inittab, can I still access the serial port via minicom? I'm just thinking for those ssh sessions where I don't want to walk to the server if it hung... |
| 02:23.58 | tonytraductor | this is not the tcl/tk tile thing that I seek, just to clarify, but the little utility for tiling xwindows |
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| 02:24.34 | tonytraductor | I use it in openbox. I used to use wmii, but I find openbox easier to customize/configure (rc.xml, so easy), but still like to tile stuff. |
| 02:24.53 | nutron | tonytraductor: while helpful == 0, I know of what you speak. I played with it before going to i3... |
| 02:25.35 | tonytraductor | I used ion3 for a while too, and, frankly, LOVED it, but traded off for wmii when tuomo went to the Dark Side |
| 02:26.06 | nutron | ion3 != i3 |
| 02:26.16 | nutron | wmii was... well rough to learn :) |
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| 02:26.25 | tonytraductor | Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will. |
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| 02:26.42 | tonytraductor | oh, well, then, was it i3? |
| 02:26.48 | angelsl | hi... what's the easiest way to get mono 2.8.2 on debian? |
| 02:27.04 | peterrooney | !start a wm war |
| 02:27.04 | dpkg | twm bites! |
| 02:27.04 | nutron | nah, i3's new... it plays off of the wmii thing.. three i's.. |
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| 02:27.32 | nutron | hah! no war, everyone's perfectly cool to run unity! |
| 02:28.13 | tonytraductor | I did really like wmii, in truth...still have it on my other machine, just, adding my own favorite keybinding is a lot easier in openbox, and ob is so light and snappy (when one doesn't encumber it with panels and crap) |
| 02:28.26 | nutron | which will either a). kill ubuntu b). kill linux c). kill gnome -- I vote for a. |
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| 02:28.47 | tonytraductor | I vote c) |
| 02:28.57 | tonytraductor | nah, I guess noobs like gnome |
| 02:29.07 | nutron | Oh yeah, nothing to really add to that, i3's just wmii improved and less buggy. |
| 02:29.47 | nutron | No one knows if I can clobber my vt while it's "tuned in" with minicom? :/ |
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| 02:29.58 | nutron | I want the answer before I do any actual work! =D |
| 02:30.04 | tonytraductor | I don't get why, in order to install wmii, I must also install dwm |
| 02:30.28 | un214 | presumably dwm is not do what I mean |
| 02:30.29 | tonytraductor | of course, I liked dwm a lot, too, but it doesn't play nice with java swing gui windows without heavy lifting, and I'm too lazy |
| 02:30.31 | K_Dallas | Good evening folks! I have a problem installing any distro on DELL precision m4500 but ubuntu 10.10. I was told a few days back here to set framebuffer false and when I tried it, it didn't change much. My problem is exactly (at least this is my understanding) the same as the one discussed here: |
| 02:30.34 | nutron | :P aye.. oh well.. y'know I even installed Plan9 to try it out in a vm... |
| 02:30.36 | K_Dallas | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556856 |
| 02:30.50 | un214 | this is not ubuntu |
| 02:30.57 | un214 | I left ubuntu for a reason |
| 02:31.01 | K_Dallas | I would greatly applreciate if someone could let me know how to get debian work on my laptop? |
| 02:31.03 | tonytraductor | so, anyway....nobody know where tile can be found? |
| 02:31.19 | K_Dallas | un214, yes, i know |
| 02:31.30 | lockon | un214, he wasn't asking about ubuntu. |
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| 02:31.57 | tonytraductor | yeah, me, too. used RH/Fedora for 8 years, got tired of yum breaking stuff, used ubuntu for a year, played with pclinuxos, rolled my own (linguas os), blah blah blah, and FINALLY, came home to Debian about 2 years ago, and don't ever expect to change distros again... |
| 02:32.07 | jordanm | K_Dallas: lenny would not suffer from problems with nouveau |
| 02:32.27 | jordanm | K_Dallas: have you tried installing stable? |
| 02:32.33 | lockon | K_Dallas, is it the distro (any) you're actually having trouble installing or the GUI afterward? |
| 02:32.40 | K_Dallas | jordanm, is lenny the testing branch? I have tried both stable and testing and neither worked |
| 02:32.52 | tonytraductor | Well, K_Dallas, what have you tried so far to make debian work on said laptop, and what is happening when you try those things? |
| 02:32.57 | jordanm | K_Dallas: no, its stable. what happened with the stable install? |
| 02:33.03 | tonytraductor | Lenny is Stable. testing is Squeeze |
| 02:33.35 | tonytraductor | anyway, I'd better get back to this translation...was just dropping in to see if anybody knew where tile could be found |
| 02:33.42 | K_Dallas | lockon, when I start installing during the installation (GUI) it just stops showing the progress. When I connect my LCD monitor, I see it there but not on the laptop screen and after installation, even if I do it text based, it would not show anything |
| 02:34.14 | K_Dallas | jordanm, both stable and testing resisted using my laptop screen |
| 02:34.43 | jordanm | K_Dallas: you were trying to use the graphical installer? the screen stops showing progress at what point? |
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| 02:34.51 | tonytraductor | perhaps it would be useful to tell us what the laptop is |
| 02:34.54 | K_Dallas | (I think that I even tried Ubuntu alpha and that didn't work either, just ubuntu 10.10) |
| 02:35.14 | tonytraductor | weird that text install had this issue |
| 02:35.34 | K_Dallas | jordanm, when I used the GUI, if I remember correctly, it stopped showing anything else when it was retrieving the packages from the disk |
| 02:35.39 | jordanm | the bug he pointed out was a bug in nouveau, which doesn't even exist in lenny |
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| 02:35.51 | jordanm | K_Dallas: what GUI? |
| 02:36.33 | un214 | have you tried supressing kms yet? |
| 02:36.46 | jordanm | un214: lenny doesn't have kms either |
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| 02:37.14 | jordanm | !kms |
| 02:37.14 | dpkg | [KMS] Kernel Mode Setting, where the initialization of graphical modes is performed by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
| 02:37.22 | K_Dallas | jordanm, let me remember. It was 2 or 3 weeks ago. The debian CD I used had an option to use graphical installer and that worked in selecting the language, keyboard, ... but when it started to install packages, it just stopped showing on my laptop |
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| 02:37.46 | jordanm | K_Dallas: I would suggest trying to the regular installer |
| 02:37.58 | K_Dallas | is going to try lenny. Maybe I never tried it at all and it was all testing |
| 02:38.20 | K_Dallas | jordanm, all right. So there is no nouveau in lenny. |
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| 02:38.59 | jordanm | K_Dallas: yes. I would expect you to be fine as long as your card is supported by lenny's binary nvidia drivers |
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| 02:39.16 | K_Dallas | checking his browser history and don't see the stable page being accessed at all! |
| 02:39.17 | jordanm | K_Dallas: which chipset does it say that it is? |
| 02:39.21 | Aenigma | would squeeze have more hardware support than lenny? |
| 02:39.49 | nutron | Supposedly, though that's just based on the kernel version included in the distro. |
| 02:39.55 | jordanm | Aenigma: yes |
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| 02:40.09 | K_Dallas | jordanm, NVidia quadro FX 880M |
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| 02:40.19 | jordanm | while the .32 kernel can be installed from backports, that does not cover xorg drivers, which are not easily backported |
| 02:40.23 | jordanm | ew |
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| 02:42.11 | K_Dallas | thinks he is disconnected ! |
| 02:42.51 | jordanm | K_Dallas: i have no idea if that will be supported or not |
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| 02:43.08 | jordanm | quadros are not common |
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| 02:44.03 | frewsxcv | what is the easiest way to install flash for iceweasel on testing? |
| 02:44.03 | K_Dallas | I see. Unfortunately Precision comes with this and another quadro chip so I have not that much of option |
| 02:44.41 | stew | frewsxcv: aptitude install gnash |
| 02:44.43 | K_Dallas | However, the fact that it works fine under ubuntu with the nvidia driver etc, wouldn't that be an indication that it would theoretically work under lenny? |
| 02:44.50 | stew | frewsxcv: gnash is a free flash implementation |
| 02:44.59 | dvs | frewsxcv: flashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:45.09 | dvs | isnt |
| 02:45.12 | un214 | if it doesn't work with vgaconsole don't even bother |
| 02:45.23 | un214 | (vgaconsole is what you get if you disable fbcon) |
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| 02:45.43 | un214 | I think it's the default for the alternate install cd and network install cd |
| 02:46.24 | un214 | X is a lot easier to get working if you have a stable command line system to fall back on |
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| 02:46.38 | un214 | also not a bad idea to enable sshd first |
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| 02:47.13 | jordanm | K_Dallas: no |
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| 02:47.41 | K_Dallas | ok |
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| 03:43.06 | hacker_kid | what could stop a debian machine from joining multicast groups? |
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| 03:45.36 | allan8904 | hi, in a stock debain installation what handles copying and pasting |
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| 03:45.57 | un214 | gnome |
| 03:46.32 | allan8904 | un214: ah, i'm using ICEWM, so im assuming that its the window manager that handels this? |
| 03:46.45 | un214 | yes |
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| 03:51.42 | stew | allan8904: no, the window manager has nothing to do with copy and paste |
| 03:52.08 | allan8904 | stew: oh ok. so what stores the data being copied and pasted? |
| 03:52.17 | stew | allan8904: the X server |
| 03:53.08 | allan8904 | stew: so if i wanted to write a script which clears the clipboard, how would i do that? |
| 03:53.16 | stew | uhh, well, the application where the data was copied from holds the data |
| 03:53.29 | stew | allan8904: look at the xclip or xsel packages |
| 03:53.59 | stew | allan8904: and note that there is also the X selection which many people mistake for the clipboard |
| 03:54.42 | allan8904 | stew: ok i'll have a look. Thanks for your help |
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| 03:59.37 | dcestari | hello all, anyway ever remapped Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V (or XF86Copy XF86Past) to any other key combination? |
| 04:00.07 | stew | dcestari: in what application? |
| 04:00.53 | dcestari | stew: I'm hoping it could be done on a global sense, like using XKB or Xmod. but I can settle for a Gnome configuration |
| 04:01.29 | dcestari | stew: I'm been looking around but can't see how to assign a keycombination to XF86Copy to at least test |
| 04:02.43 | stew | dcestari: i don't know what XF86Copy is, is that a keysym? |
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| 04:02.57 | dcestari | stew: yes |
| 04:03.09 | stew | dcestari: nor do I know much about configuring gnome, but in general, you'd have to configure each application |
| 04:03.39 | stew | you certainly cannot assume that every application would do a copy operation whenever it received a XF86Copy keypress |
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| 04:06.22 | dcestari | non standards applications are not my concern right now |
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| 04:08.24 | stew | dcestari: like which/ |
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| 04:25.17 | rpgdude | hey, does debian have any dictionary programs |
| 04:25.27 | rpgdude | like for looking up meanings of words |
| 04:25.29 | dondelelcaro | rpgdude: dict |
| 04:25.51 | ajikeshi | rpgdude, gwaei :D |
| 04:27.13 | rpgdude | im looking for something i can run from the terminal |
| 04:27.40 | dondelelcaro | rpgdude: then dict is what you're looking for |
| 04:28.31 | GJdan | debian 5.0.7 doesn't come with flashplayer already installed does it? |
| 04:28.50 | un214 | no |
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| 04:29.02 | rpgdude | i didnt realize dict had work meanings |
| 04:29.17 | karlpinc | !tell GJdan about overview |
| 04:29.37 | GJdan | well in that base what bothers me is how to install it |
| 04:29.39 | karlpinc | GJdan: In other words, no. |
| 04:29.54 | karlpinc | GJdan: See the wiki page url. |
| 04:30.16 | GJdan | I'm using 64 bit and I have no clue where plugins go :/ |
| 04:30.22 | rpgdude | awesome it works, even gives me info from the jargon file xD |
| 04:30.39 | karlpinc | !tell GJdan about adobe flash |
| 04:30.53 | GJdan | :) thanks |
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| 04:41.32 | GJdan | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.48 | GJdan | .me is afraid of change |
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| 04:46.07 | mappy | i've a problem installing fbset on debian-stable |
| 04:46.31 | mappy | apt-get install fbset tells me ".udev presence implies active udev" and aborts a MAKEDEV-based installation |
| 04:46.54 | mappy | how would i install fbset with udev instead? any help welcome =\ |
| 04:48.39 | un214 | hmmm |
| 04:48.46 | un214 | willing to write your own bootscripts? |
| 04:49.04 | mappy | well... willing to try.. |
| 04:49.21 | un214 | boot externally, enter |
| 04:49.24 | un214 | apt-get remove udev |
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| 04:49.54 | un214 | now you *must* write your own early bootscripts |
| 04:50.02 | un214 | including mkinitramfs |
| 04:50.12 | un214 | the stock ones don't work w/o udev anymore |
| 04:50.48 | mappy | nods worryingly |
| 04:50.53 | un214 | anyway, you should not need to get rid of udev for fbset |
| 04:51.16 | un214 | report a bug |
| 04:51.27 | mappy | yeah.. maybe there's a newer version that installs with udev somewhere if i check outside the repository |
| 04:51.44 | mappy | would the bug go to the maintainer, or the project? |
| 04:51.47 | un214 | are you willing to play dice |
| 04:51.50 | un214 | beats me |
| 04:52.01 | un214 | --force --nodeps will install it |
| 04:52.09 | un214 | no guarantee on whether or not it will work |
| 04:54.34 | stew | uh, yeah, you don't want to remove udev |
| 04:55.05 | mappy | i didn't think so |
| 04:55.30 | stew | since fbset declares udev as a dependency, one would hope they work together, if they don't you should definitely file a bug |
| 04:56.09 | stew | oh, wait, it aborts madedev based installation, but is that really a problem? |
| 04:56.24 | stew | mappy: does the package fail to install? or what? |
| 04:56.40 | mappy | it seems to install some sort of binary, but on running it, it tells me /dev/fb0 doesn't exist |
| 04:56.53 | mappy | fbset --help tells me the date is 1999 |
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| 04:57.00 | mappy | that far, far predates udev, right? : ( |
| 04:57.31 | mappy | what's it still doing in the repository? seems to be version 2.1 but that's newer than 1999(?) |
| 04:57.36 | GJdan | ok, next problem >.< The Volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control.... do not have correct GStreamer plugins... or have not configured a sound card. |
| 04:57.38 | mappy | maybe i should file a bug for the copyright notice at least |
| 04:58.29 | stew | mappy: /dev/fb0 not existing means there is no framebuffer to adjust anyway |
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| 04:59.03 | mappy | not that it couldn't use makedev to make it? |
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| 04:59.29 | mappy | i know x11 isn't running, how else can i have a terminal? |
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| 05:00.21 | stew | mappy: if you had a framebuffer, udev would have made /dev/fb0 |
| 05:00.28 | stew | mappy: what does "cat /proc/cmdline" return? |
| 05:00.44 | mappy | it tells me root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet |
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| 05:25.06 | Canar | hey guys, i'm trying to debug some suspend problems i'm having |
| 05:25.15 | Canar | both pm-suspend and s2ram -f work great |
| 05:25.29 | Canar | but sadly, the options given by the battery icon don't use these |
| 05:25.37 | Canar | or if they do, they seem to break something |
| 05:25.56 | Canar | i can't find any documentation on this... is there somewhere i'm overlooking? |
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| 06:04.35 | rkhshm | which pkg provides libming.so. |
| 06:04.45 | rkhshm | apt-file does not turn up anything. |
| 06:05.55 | peterrooney | yes, it does. |
| 06:06.00 | peterrooney | ,versions libming-dev |
| 06:06.01 | judd | Package libming-dev on i386 -- etch: 1:0.3.0-11; lenny: 1:0.3.0-14; sid: 1:0.4.3-1+b1; squeeze: 1:0.4.3-1+b1 |
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| 06:24.48 | GJdan | any idea why alsa can't find any devices to play sound? |
| 06:25.36 | GJdan | am I supposed to install OSS as well by some chance? |
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| 06:37.56 | angelsl | hi. what's the easiest way to get mono 2.8.2 on debian squeeze? |
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| 06:50.14 | Arrowmaster | angelsl: doesnt look like that version of mono is available in debian |
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| 06:58.26 | daef | hi there |
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| 06:58.54 | sontek | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 06:58.56 | sontek | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.58 | sontek | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 06:59.00 | sontek | where is the log for why that failed? |
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| 07:01.56 | peterrooney | sontek: /var/log/dpkg.log ; however, you may need to increase verbosity/add debug flags |
| 07:04.11 | sontek | yeah, the log says it installed |
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| 07:05.33 | sontek | Errors were encountered while processing:Ok, Aborting, since the bootloader might not handle an initrd/initramfs image. |
| 07:05.47 | sontek | its using grub |
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| 07:09.20 | ktwilight | right, so it was a dangling symlink issue. damnit |
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| 08:00.51 | jugshark | hi |
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| 08:01.36 | karlpinc | jugshark: Hi. You have a question? |
| 08:03.08 | jugshark | karlpinc: hi, yes, i would like to know if there is a way to merge 2 partitions into single partition ..i have 2 partitions one is lenny OS and other is empty partition, can i combine/merge both to get more space...partition reiserfs |
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| 08:03.41 | jugshark | any tools ?, something like paragon partition manager etc for windows |
| 08:03.51 | jugshark | is there a linux alternative |
| 08:04.12 | zinx | gparted? |
| 08:04.16 | jugshark | and without loosing data |
| 08:04.48 | jugshark | zinx: can gparted combine 2 reiserfs partitions without loosing data? |
| 08:04.56 | jugshark | i tried that ...i dont see any option |
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| 08:05.26 | zinx | jugshark: sorry, i didn't realize my nick was still set to "google.com" |
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| 08:28.19 | daef | hi there |
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| 08:28.37 | treebeen | ciao |
| 08:28.46 | daef | i have a little problem installing debian netinst on a ibm x3200 m2 |
| 08:29.01 | daef | mkfs.ext3 seems to hang |
| 08:29.15 | daef | progressbar in textinstallmode stuck at 33% |
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| 08:29.30 | jugshark | hi got disconnected earlier |
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| 08:29.40 | daef | i killed the mkfs-pid, mkfsed manually - took about 30 minutes to write inode-tables |
| 08:29.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | faulty disk with loads of I/O errors? |
| 08:30.16 | daef | Alt+F1ed back to setup where it recognized the mkfs died - pressed continue - started mkfs again now |
| 08:30.29 | daef | there a way i can check the status what mkfs is doing at the moment? |
| 08:30.47 | jugshark | im looking for a way to merge/combine 2 reiserfs partitions without loosing data ..is it possible on linux ? |
| 08:30.52 | daef | cat-ing /proc/PID/fd/... doesnt write anything |
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| 08:31.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, but if it's the disk, you should get lots of messages about io failures |
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| 08:32.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I actually can't think of anything else except that it's just slow and busy... |
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| 08:32.55 | daef | CutMeOwnThroat: you aren't talking to me, are you |
| 08:32.56 | daef | ? |
| 08:33.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | I was... |
| 08:33.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | that or to myself |
| 08:33.40 | daef | where / in which log would i find err-msgs about faulty disks? |
| 08:34.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | on one of the virtual consoles, as this is the installer cd |
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| 08:34.17 | daef | i am on one of the virtual consoles |
| 08:34.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably even there typing "dmesg" also works, but not sure |
| 08:34.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, try the other ones... |
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| 08:35.16 | daef | dmesg |tail seems quite ok |
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| 08:35.44 | daef | ioctl initialised, adding swap on /dev/sdb, ... |
| 08:35.55 | daef | no errors there |
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| 08:39.13 | arnd__ | hello. i'm a bit confused about ssh and environment variables: when i log into a box via "ssh user@host" and then execute "export", it reports the environment variable TERM to be set to xterm. but when i supply the "export" command directly (like "ssh user@host export") the TERM variable isn't set. what mechanism sets this variable? ~/.bashrc, ~/.profile, /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/bash_profile don't seem to contain anything concerning this. |
| 08:39.59 | treebeen | arnd__: the terminal sets this normally |
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| 08:40.49 | daef | arnd__: what's the users shell? |
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| 08:41.33 | arnd__ | i'm using bash on both boxes and konsole as the terminal on the client box |
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| 08:42.04 | daef | tried 'ssh -l $user $pass "export foo=bar; export foo"'? |
| 08:42.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | you realize that that behavior is correct, though? when you call "ssh host command" you don't have a terminal assigned, so TERM should be unset |
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| 08:44.16 | daef | man ssh => if a command is specified, command is executed on the remote host instead of a login shell... |
| 08:44.28 | arnd__ | daef: works as expected |
| 08:45.52 | daef | arnd__: i meant "foo=bar; export foo" anyway... |
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| 08:46.18 | daef | as long as it works... :) |
| 08:46.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | arnd__, what is it you want to do anyway? |
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| 08:47.58 | arnd__ | i wrote a script to execute "aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade" on multiple hosts. now debconf complains about TERM not being set... |
| 08:48.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | daef, if there's no errors from the disk, I have no idea for a specific cause |
| 08:48.19 | daef | CutMeOwnThroat: is there a way to check where the cycles go? top is not available... |
| 08:48.50 | daef | maybe the mkfs just waits for a "y" since no "-F" is set |
| 08:48.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | arnd__, there's a pre-made solution for this... whose package name currently slipped my mind |
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| 08:49.25 | daef | how can i see if mkfs is busy or just dangling around waiting for some snow? |
| 08:50.30 | arnd__ | so i thought maybe i should fix that. i know that i could use DEBIAN_FRONTEND="non-interactive", but i'm interactively watching the progress of this script and i'd like to intervene if debconf wants to configure something... |
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| 08:50.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's definitely stuff like "dsh", but I thought there was also something specifically for updating ... |
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| 08:51.03 | daef | CutMeOwnThroat: i thought u were talking about a trivial clustershell (cssh) to multiple boxes... |
| 08:51.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | daef, on a running system you could with iotop ... on the installer disk, difficult |
| 08:51.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | arnd__, possibly you want "ssh -t" |
| 08:51.52 | daef | CutMeOwnThroat: that's constitutive |
| 08:52.13 | daef | :/ |
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| 08:52.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | constitutive? |
| 08:52.47 | daef | that's very constructive |
| 08:52.54 | daef | </sarcasm> |
| 08:53.22 | daef | it's a german saying - don't know if one can simply babel it into english as i just did |
| 08:53.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... it's not news that you have a very limited set of commands after booting from the installer cd |
| 08:53.47 | arnd__ | daef: maybe you could try hdparm -tT (don't know wherer it's included on the installation disk) to see whether the drive is slow... |
| 08:53.50 | daef | s/installer cd/netinst cd/g |
| 08:54.31 | daef | arnd__: available commands in PATH starting with "h": halt, head, hotplug-pcmcia, httpd, hw-detect |
| 08:54.46 | daef | (who needs httpd when installing anyway?= |
| 08:54.48 | daef | ) |
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| 08:54.57 | arnd__ | mh, okay. it was worth a try... |
| 08:55.07 | daef | haaaaarrrrrrrr |
| 08:55.14 | daef | just waiting all the time did it |
| 08:55.18 | daef | it was still working |
| 08:55.23 | poisonbit | there is a ps |
| 08:55.25 | daef | setup going on |
| 08:55.33 | daef | poisonbit: ACK |
| 08:55.43 | daef | but ps doesnt tell me what the process is doing |
| 08:55.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't think it's a saying as such :) |
| 08:55.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | daef, and you can watch the disk-led :-P |
| 08:56.00 | arnd__ | daef: how large is the disk anyway? |
| 08:56.15 | daef | 2x 250GB RAID1 |
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| 08:56.39 | daef | CutMeOwnThroat: it lit without any pause - that made me suspicous in the first place |
| 08:57.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | sounds okish to me |
| 08:57.21 | daef | now i have like 3 hours left to set up a squid, with usermanagement, etc... (for a dormatory) |
| 08:57.27 | arnd__ | CutMeOwnThroat: ssh -t did the trick. thanks a lot! |
| 08:59.14 | daef | fun thing about -t: Multiple -t options force tty allocation, even if ssh has no local tty... :) |
| 08:59.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can always try xfs or reiser or ... |
| 08:59.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh yes... vfat |
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| 09:01.32 | daef | the right sound for installing debian...: http://sender.fm/Tektrapak.!.Tektrapak_-_E_mu_la_tor :D |
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| 09:09.06 | daef | i guess ftp.at.debian.org wasn't the optimal choice... darn |
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| 09:25.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | I dunno, I don't like the way bugfixes get stuck because of the freeze... I guess it's unavoidable to some degree, but there's some pretty annoying stuff going into stable although there's a fix because it didn't have a high enough priority |
| 09:26.26 | daef | CutMeOwnThroat: that's life (at least sometimes...) |
| 09:26.37 | daef | i'm currently very annoyed by my irssi |
| 09:26.44 | daef | i /ignore all joins |
| 09:26.52 | daef | but still get all the join-messages |
| 09:26.55 | daef | no idea why |
| 09:27.00 | daef | same with quits |
| 09:27.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | oi, and #609581 is also annoying... or the fix will be |
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| 09:27.41 | daef | GPL2 vs GPL3 (poppler/calibre) ?? |
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| 09:28.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
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| 09:29.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | poppler will definitely do all the pdf stuff, maybe ps? |
| 09:29.31 | daef | a bit ironic to remove something due to incompatibility of different versions of the same licence... |
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| 09:34.25 | arnd__ | good bye and once again thanks for your help |
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| 09:40.19 | phako | hi |
| 09:40.53 | phako | according to http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-dreq.en.html, I can still run fakeroot debian/rules with this dh 7 style rule files |
| 09:41.14 | phako | but for the two packages I created here it just returns without doing anything |
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| 12:20.20 | anilg | Hi All.. how do I download all the files (dsc, changes, deb, tar.gz, .diff.gz) for a particular package. The task is to grab certain packages from the repo, and build a local repository |
| 12:20.27 | anilg | apt-get source --download-only only gets the source, and not the debs. |
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| 12:21.34 | kgoetz | rsync, exclude * and include what you want |
| 12:21.36 | kgoetz | gl |
| 12:22.20 | anilg | err.. isn't there an equivalent of dpkg-getpackagefiles packagename ? |
| 12:22.35 | anilg | it doesn't seem like an uncommon operation |
| 12:22.44 | kgoetz | apt-get -d install |
| 12:23.09 | anilg | it only seems to get the .deb and not the other (?) |
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| 12:23.18 | kgoetz | correct |
| 12:23.26 | kgoetz | no command gets the lot |
| 12:23.55 | abrotman | anilg: what are you reallly trying to do? |
| 12:24.14 | anilg | grab a few specific packages, and deploy via local repository |
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| 12:24.42 | abrotman | you need the source though ? |
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| 12:25.47 | anilg | abrotman: yes, the full package |
| 12:26.03 | stew | anilg: and you need the binaries from which arches? |
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| 12:26.50 | anilg | well technically I'm working with Nexenta (solaris-i386) repositories, but I was hoping there was a general debian command for this specific operation |
| 12:27.01 | stew | anilg: there isn't |
| 12:27.48 | abrotman | anilg: an apt proxy of some sort? |
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| 12:36.16 | DotHack | is dotdeb down? anyone knows? |
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| 12:38.48 | abrotman | Does anyone care? |
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| 12:39.39 | DotHack | Dunno, just asking |
| 12:40.05 | abrotman | it seems to work here, but those packages are usually broken and shouldn't be used |
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| 12:41.32 | DotHack | seems they blocked our ip, i was trying to mirror it |
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| 12:42.20 | abrotman | maybe you should ask to mirror first? |
| 12:43.19 | DotHack | it was for internal purposes... did realize i had to ask this |
| 12:43.23 | DotHack | didnt |
| 12:43.37 | abrotman | it's their network .. yes |
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| 12:46.11 | tdn | I am trying to upgrade an Etch system to Lenny. When I come to the step: aptitude install aptitude, I get this output: http://paste.adora.dk/P1885.html What should I do? Is this really correct/sane? |
| 12:46.23 | tdn | More compact paste: http://paste.adora.dk/P1885.txt |
| 12:47.17 | abrotman | tdn: yes, that's fine |
| 12:47.21 | tdn | abrotman, ok. |
| 12:47.25 | abrotman | is it removing anything ? |
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| 12:47.52 | DotHack | Since a cannot access the dotdeb site anymore, can someone give contact info of dotdeb.org? |
| 12:48.11 | tdn | abrotman, appearently not. |
| 12:48.28 | tdn | abrotman, I am just noting that a package is "broken". |
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| 12:49.12 | abrotman | DotHack: i don't see one on the site |
| 12:50.48 | tdn | abrotman, I ran the command, it went fine. I am at the aptitude safe-upgrade step now. I get this: http://paste.adora.dk/P1886.txt Is this safe? |
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| 12:51.03 | abrotman | seems safe to me |
| 12:51.07 | tdn | Ok. |
| 12:51.26 | abrotman | tdn: is this production? did yu make a backup before you started? |
| 12:51.45 | DotHack | abrotman: ok, thanks for checking! |
| 12:51.58 | abrotman | DotHack: maybe use the whois info? no idea |
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| 12:55.10 | tdn | abrotman, it is production, yes. I have backup. |
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| 12:56.49 | tommytwo | Any changes I make to kde's system settings will not take, is there a file I need to change or something? |
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| 12:58.24 | tdn | abrotman, I am at full-upgrade step (final step) now. I get this output: http://paste.adora.dk/P1887.txt More broken packages... Does this look okay? |
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| 13:03.47 | abrotman | tdn: hit Y, then get the full output |
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| 13:05.18 | tdn | abrotman, http://paste.adora.dk/P1890.html |
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| 13:05.48 | abrotman | seems okay .. but not quite enough ? put your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 13:06.26 | tdn | http://paste.adora.dk/P1891.html |
| 13:06.52 | tdn | abrotman, only five last lines are not comments. |
| 13:07.35 | abrotman | tdn: just make sure you do an `aptitude update ; aptitude full-upgrade" |
| 13:08.27 | tdn | abrotman, I did this in step one. But here it is again: http://paste.adora.dk/P1892.html |
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| 13:08.48 | tdn | abrotman, you think there is something wrong with the sources? |
| 13:08.58 | abrotman | then go ahead |
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| 13:13.30 | tdn | abrotman, thanks for advice. |
| 13:13.38 | abrotman | Hit Y :) |
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| 13:14.24 | babilen | … and enter! |
| 13:14.36 | babilen | tdn: hei, good to see you made progress. :) |
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| 13:18.37 | kryl | hi |
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| 13:19.12 | tdn | babilen, yeah, I solved the dhcp/dns problems also. It was a configuration problem that did not take effect on Lenny, but did in squeeze. |
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| 13:19.44 | kryl | I have a little problem :) I have a difference between df -h and du -smx command ! for example : df -h (for root is : 9321M used data) and if I do : du -sxm / I have : 6123/ what does that means ? |
| 13:21.55 | tdn | kryl, do you have some sparse files? |
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| 13:22.28 | tdn | kryl, if you use df -h, you should use -h on du as well, or use df -m if you use du -m. |
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| 13:23.11 | babilen | kryl: might be open file descriptors ?-) -- "lsof|grep deleted" ? |
| 13:23.22 | babilen | needs a cappuccino :) |
| 13:24.19 | babilen | kryl: http://linuxshellaccount.blogspot.com/2008/12/why-du-and-df-display-different-values.html |
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| 13:26.55 | kryl | babilen, yes an other process is also working on the deleted file !!! |
| 13:27.15 | kryl | thank you ;) |
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| 13:40.36 | DrNach | Is Debian safe to run if the defaults commands (cp, rm, mkdir, etc...) are replaced with BusyBox symlinks? Or are many scripts relying on GNU extensions? |
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| 13:45.50 | abrotman | DrNach: to be honest, sounds like a 'try it and see' kind of thing |
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| 13:46.33 | dkr | DrNach: not based on my quick grep of /etc |
| 13:46.38 | dkr | DrNach: /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh: mkdir --mode=755 /dev/shm |
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| 13:49.13 | eptalon | heyas |
| 13:49.48 | eptalon | what is the latest (autobuilt) kernel for amd64, where Icould get both the image and the headers? |
| 13:51.24 | abrotman | eptalon: depends which version of Debian you have |
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| 13:52.10 | dkr | !versions linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 13:52.17 | dkr | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 13:52.17 | judd | Package linux-image-2.6-amd64 on i386 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2; lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.32+27~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.32+28; squeeze: 2.6.32+28 |
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| 13:53.22 | babilen | kryl: You are welcome -- I ran into this some time ago .. |
| 13:53.40 | kryl | ;) |
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| 13:58.01 | sacredchao | Does anyone know a good way to recursively scan a directory for .flac files and convert them to .ogg vorbis files, preserving filenames (but changing extensions) and all metadata, and deleting the original FLACs, and ONLY putting the Vorbis files in the same dir as the FLAC was found in?? |
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| 14:05.32 | babilen | sacredchao: I am not aware of any tool that does this (does not mean that there isn't one) but it shouldn't be too hard to script it with e.g. Python, Bash or Perl |
| 14:08.18 | sacredchao | find music/ -name "*.flac" | xargs oggenc something? |
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| 14:08.41 | sacredchao | babilen: Will oggenc drop the ogg files in the directory where I executed find if I do this? |
| 14:08.55 | sacredchao | Or in the directory of the original FLAC files? |
| 14:09.01 | sacredchao | And how can I also make it delete the FLACs, but only after transcoding is complete, and the OGG file is in the right place? |
| 14:09.15 | stew | sacredchao: have you checked the oggenc manpage? |
| 14:09.30 | dkr | sacredchao: by writing a for loop |
| 14:10.02 | stew | sacredchao: and are you sure that oggenc will take multiple different sources on the command line and create a .ogg from each? or are you trying to combine them into one ogg file? |
| 14:10.12 | sacredchao | dkr: Do I need a for loop to handle the deletion? |
| 14:10.19 | babilen | sacredchao: Check if oggenc works on CWD and/or if you can specify the output path |
| 14:10.20 | sacredchao | and where can I read how to write one? |
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| 14:10.53 | sacredchao | stew: I only want one ogg file per flac file, and I want the filenames to be equivilent and metadata to be equivilent |
| 14:10.59 | sacredchao | just switch from .flac to .ogg and delete the original .flac file AFTER transcoding is complete |
| 14:11.10 | sacredchao | and the .ogg is placed in the same exact dir as the original FLAC file |
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| 14:19.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | sacredchao, read a bit on find and man oggenc, I guess... something like this will do: find . -type f -name \*.flac -exec echo '{}' '{}'.ogg \; |
| 14:20.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | sacredchao, oh, -o '{}'.ogg |
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| 14:20.38 | sacredchao | CutMeOwnThroat: Thanks for the help, but don't I need 1) to actually run the oggenc command somewhere |
| 14:20.53 | sacredchao | and 2) some kind of for loop like dkr said in order to delete the FLAC files after transcoding? |
| 14:21.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | sacredchao, of course... replace the echo with "oggenc", this is just to show you what it does and b) that leaves you with filename.flac.ogg, so you have to rename in a 2nd run, and I would rm in a 3rd run after you made sure everything is as you want |
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| 14:22.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can of course do the rename and the rm in the same run, but ONLY if you don't value your files or are very confident you got it right in the first go |
| 14:22.37 | sacredchao | My problem is lack of space for both Vorbis and FLAC to co-exist |
| 14:22.42 | sacredchao | but I'll try to fix that another way |
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| 14:23.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well... you can do all in one go, of course it's just that you can lose your files if you get it wrong |
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| 14:24.01 | sacredchao | CutMeOwnThroat: I would be testing it out in a test dir I have already made first |
| 14:24.13 | sacredchao | So yeah that echo just adds .flac.ogg |
| 14:24.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | and this is more a question for #bash or similar... actually I'm pretty sure a very similar problem is coverd in the bashfaq |
| 14:24.21 | sacredchao | I would like it to just say .ogg after transcoding |
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| 14:25.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/015 |
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| 14:25.52 | sacredchao | http://www.unixguide.net/unix/bash/G6.shtml is the closest I could find |
| 14:25.55 | sacredchao | ahh |
| 14:26.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's simple to use "rename" in debian to do rename 's/.flac.ogg/.ogg/' on all files in a 2nd go |
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| 14:26.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps not so very elegant, but simple |
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| 14:28.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | sacredchao, actually, the renaming thing is specifically in a 2nd faq, although nearly the same problem...http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/030 |
| 14:29.17 | ecksun | Im trying to remove scratchbox packages but fail, aptitude/apt cant find the package and dpkg cannot because other stuff depends on it (which i also want to remove), here are some debug output: http://debian.pastebin.com/fjxXHGYF |
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| 14:30.14 | sacredchao | CutMeOwnThroat: I think this is working perfectly, minus file deletion: |
| 14:30.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | ew, aptitude syntax |
| 14:30.49 | sacredchao | find . -type f -name \*.flac -exec oggenc '{}' '{}'.ogg \; |
| 14:30.57 | sacredchao | find . -type f -name \*.flac -exec oggenc -q 4 '{}' '{}'.ogg \; |
| 14:30.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | ecksun, although maybe slightly heretical, how about "apt-get --purge remove scratchbox*" |
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| 14:31.10 | ecksun | 1 sec |
| 14:31.25 | ecksun | E: Unable to locate package scratchbox |
| 14:31.32 | debiantonio | aptitude purge "package" |
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| 14:31.49 | ecksun | same |
| 14:32.01 | ecksun | I think its because i dont have the scratchbox packages in cache |
| 14:32.12 | ecksun | I installed them from a diffrent repo, which gives me 404 now |
| 14:32.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps you have it already uninstalled |
| 14:32.33 | ecksun | nope |
| 14:32.41 | ecksun | lists as installed by dpkg -l |
| 14:33.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | the "*" expands fine with my apt-get |
| 14:33.18 | morbidwar | hello, i'm running a router based on debian 5 and on the same nic i'm routing 2 networks (public network 82.78.207.x and 192.168.0.0/24), what i have to do to route the trafic betwen the 2 networks, i have enabled ip_forward and when i'm pinging 192.168.0.2 from the public network give's me time out |
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| 14:33.54 | ecksun | CutMeOwnThroat, yes, but the scratchbox packages isnt listed at all in any apt* |
| 14:34.12 | debiantonio | so... |
| 14:34.49 | sacredchao | CutMeOwnThroat: I really like this command so far, but i want to add deletion to it =D |
| 14:34.57 | sacredchao | I have a test dir to try on, like I said. |
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| 14:35.17 | sacredchao | And I have backups (in TWO additional places!!) of all of these FLACs |
| 14:35.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, actually should it be scratchb.*? |
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| 14:35.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | I always thought they're globs |
| 14:35.56 | ecksun | CutMeOwnThroat, the package name is scratchbox-* |
| 14:36.03 | ecksun | but even if I supply an exact name it cannot find it |
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| 14:36.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | that can't really be |
| 14:36.38 | ecksun | why? |
| 14:36.39 | ecksun | Note, selecting 'scratchbox2' for regex 'scratchbox.*' |
| 14:36.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's not as if apt and dpkg use different databases |
| 14:36.46 | ecksun | are you sure about that? |
| 14:36.52 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: yes it is |
| 14:37.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | but apt uses dpkg all the time |
| 14:37.10 | stew | ok? |
| 14:37.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, where? it's of course got the additional data on stuff in the repository |
| 14:37.27 | ecksun | doesnt apt use a cache of the repos for package listings? |
| 14:37.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | but for local files? |
| 14:37.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | for installed files? |
| 14:38.43 | ecksun | well, I dont know |
| 14:38.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, so how should that work? |
| 14:39.01 | ecksun | but what I have seen know seems to suggest they use diffrent databases |
| 14:39.05 | ecksun | which is rather strange |
| 14:39.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 14:39.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, you can remove them all with dpkg |
| 14:39.48 | ecksun | if i try to remove one it complains about the others depending on it |
| 14:39.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | but... something seems seriously wrong |
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| 14:39.57 | ecksun | would it work to supply all at the same time? |
| 14:40.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, "aptitude -f install" is there to fix this kind of thing after you messed with dpkg directly |
| 14:40.20 | ecksun | I think it has to do with me adding the repo to sources.list, updating, installing, and then removing it from sources.list |
| 14:40.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | but if some part of the apt database is corrupt... |
| 14:40.36 | ecksun | so now when i tried to add it again it doesnt exist, so apt have no knowledge of it |
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| 14:41.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've installed .deb files using dpkg and it was never a problem that apt didn't see them |
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| 14:41.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | although I probably never checked deliberately if it does see them... except when searching with apt-cache and packages that are in no repo turn up |
| 14:41.58 | ecksun | hmm, yes, your right |
| 14:42.07 | ecksun | i just tried that on my server |
| 14:42.16 | ecksun | damn scratchbox |
| 14:42.22 | ecksun | this is the precise reason I want it to be gone |
| 14:42.22 | ecksun | :) |
| 14:42.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, it's using /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin indeed |
| 14:43.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | while dpkg uses /var/lib/dpkg/available |
| 14:43.11 | babilen | ecksun: What is scratchbox anyway? Seems to cause a lot of trouble ... |
| 14:43.20 | ecksun | babilen, i dont really know what it is |
| 14:43.24 | ecksun | but I require it to emulate arm |
| 14:43.29 | ecksun | in order to compile against maemo |
| 14:43.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | babilen, environment for crosscompiling arm |
| 14:44.12 | babilen | ,info scratchbox2 --release squeeze |
| 14:44.15 | judd | Package scratchbox2 (utils, extra) in squeeze/i386: Transparent cross compiling environment. Version: 2.0-3.1; Size: 101.9k; Installed: 612k; Homepage: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/sbox2 |
| 14:44.19 | babilen | that ^^^ ? |
| 14:44.36 | ecksun | yes, but I use scratchbox 1, which isnt in the repos :/ |
| 14:44.41 | babilen | ah, ok ... |
| 14:45.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you run "apt-get update" since? |
| 14:45.23 | ecksun | yes |
| 14:45.44 | ecksun | hmm, now i just did a dpkg --purge on all scratchbox packages |
| 14:45.48 | ecksun | seems to work |
| 14:46.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | that does open /var/lib/dpkg/status... hm, but not available |
| 14:46.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha, not anymore sure I understand how that works |
| 14:46.54 | ecksun | so, I have solved my problem |
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| 14:47.10 | ecksun | but why did it arise, any idea? |
| 14:47.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, you haven't solved the problem why your apt database seems to be incomplete |
| 14:47.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 14:48.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps it's normal that you can't remove those type of packages ... but I'd surely have stumbled upon it in all those years? |
| 14:48.33 | ecksun | neither have I |
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| 14:49.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | let me try, I have lots of packages that have "no available version in archive" |
| 14:49.19 | ecksun | what would happen if I do an apt-get update after I have removed the repository from sources.list? |
| 14:49.36 | ecksun | wouldnt that remove the packages from that repo? |
| 14:49.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, works fine for me |
| 14:49.47 | ecksun | :/ |
| 14:50.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | I didn't specify a wildcard but the package name, but apt-get removes it |
| 14:51.09 | ecksun | is it possible to list packages not installed from a repo? |
| 14:51.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's --dry-run for aptitude |
| 14:51.19 | ecksun | want to try the same at this system |
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| 14:51.45 | ecksun | --dry-run dosent exist in the man pages |
| 14:51.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | ecksun, apt-show-versions shows what archive stuff seems to come from |
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| 14:51.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | only for apt-get |
| 14:52.28 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: --simulate |
| 14:52.41 | ecksun | oh, now i understand what you asked :P |
| 14:52.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | too late :) |
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| 14:53.14 | ecksun | jupp :) |
| 14:53.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, aptitude finds packages that are not found in the repos anymore, too |
| 14:53.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | but thanks, next time I'll rememeber |
| 14:53.39 | ecksun | I used both apt and aptitude and saw no diffrence |
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| 14:54.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, so how does it work? I know you can install things with dpkg -i and they turn up in apt-cache searches |
| 14:54.24 | ecksun | CutMeOwnThroat, i installed with apt-get install |
| 14:54.26 | ecksun | or aptitude install |
| 14:55.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, understood, but that shouldn't make a difference |
| 14:55.35 | ecksun | true |
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| 14:55.39 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: how does what work? |
| 14:55.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | I probably also installed gcc-4.2-base with apt-get some time earlier |
| 14:55.53 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: i'm sorry i'm not really follwing what you guys are after |
| 14:55.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, apt seeing e.g. packages installed with dpkg -i |
| 14:55.59 | ecksun | hmm, question is if it can be related to the nokia installer I used |
| 14:56.21 | ecksun | it was in relation to installing scratchbox |
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| 14:56.52 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: you want to know the mechanism by which apt is able to discover the installed pacakges? |
| 14:56.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 14:57.08 | stew | i don't know, check the source |
| 14:57.13 | ecksun | :D |
| 14:57.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've never seen it fail before |
| 14:57.22 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: its either going to be looking in /var/lib/dpkg/status or its going to be querying dpkg |
| 14:57.23 | ecksun | you have any idea who Monsquaz is? |
| 14:57.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | apt-cache looks in /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 14:57.38 | stew | ecksun: why do you ask? |
| 14:57.46 | ecksun | hes PMing me strnge stuff |
| 14:57.49 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: are you sure about that? |
| 14:57.56 | stew | ecksun: can you pm to me what you got from him? |
| 14:57.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just straced it |
| 14:58.02 | ecksun | stew, sure thing |
| 14:58.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's the last file it opens |
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| 15:00.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | ecksun, hm, now that you removed them, it's probably too late... but you could have checked if those packages are listed in /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 15:01.19 | ecksun | yeah, they dont show up in dpkg -l anymore |
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| 15:01.23 | ecksun | however i will check, just to be sure |
| 15:01.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, now they're gone, they're gone |
| 15:02.05 | ecksun | nope, nothing |
| 15:02.08 | ecksun | not in -old either |
| 15:02.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | but the way I see it, dpkg as well as apt-cache update both use the status file |
| 15:02.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | but that means the package should be gone for both of them or none |
| 15:02.51 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: what is "apt-cache update"? |
| 15:03.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | err, apt-get update |
| 15:03.18 | stew | i'd not expect that to change the status file |
| 15:03.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, but to read from it |
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| 15:03.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | open("/var/lib/dpkg/status", O_RDONLY) = 6 |
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| 15:05.32 | StyXman | this is debian sid updated last sunday. since the next reboot after the update, which updated firmware-iwlwifi 0.27 -> 0.28, my wifi card seems to not work anymore. I hadn't found a bugreport on the package and dmesg does not show much to try to isolate the bug. |
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| 15:06.10 | ecksun | are there any reasons not to upgrade to dependecy based boot? |
| 15:06.20 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: it doesn't do that on mine |
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| 15:06.43 | ecksun | :) |
| 15:06.54 | dkr | ecksun: hysterical raisins |
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| 15:07.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | StyXman, check if "aptitude changelog firmware-iwlwifi" shines a light on it |
| 15:07.16 | ecksun | dkr, whaat? :P |
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| 15:07.41 | dkr | ecksun: historical reasons |
| 15:07.43 | StyXman | CutMeOwnThroat: ack |
| 15:07.49 | ecksun | dkr, lol :) |
| 15:07.50 | ecksun | okay |
| 15:08.31 | emery | I'm having abit of trouble with a USB dongle... It's a F6D4050 (rt2870) I've followed the debian page about the driver and still doesnt work .. it also isnt on the compatibility list |
| 15:08.33 | jhutchins_lt | ecksun: Be aware that without fairly recent hardware it won't do much for you. |
| 15:08.58 | ecksun | jhutchins_lt, is a core i3 and stuff recent? |
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| 15:09.07 | jhutchins_lt | Possibly. |
| 15:09.46 | ecksun | nice, I was mostly curious why you would not want to upgrade |
| 15:09.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, did you strace with "-f"? |
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| 15:09.55 | ecksun | other than scratchbox messing stuff up |
| 15:09.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | might be a child opening it |
| 15:09.59 | StyXman | CutMeOwnThroat: not much. a lot of new drivers, and this notice 'Remove bnx2 firmware versions not used by the driver in any suite', but a) I have latest kernel in sid, b) is not my driver |
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| 15:10.14 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: yes |
| 15:10.41 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: here it stats it but doesn't open it |
| 15:10.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | StyXman, and downgrading to the previous version of just that package undoes the damage? |
| 15:10.57 | StyXman | CutMeOwnThroat: where can I get the older? |
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| 15:12.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | StyXman, might still be in /var/cache/apt/archives, or might still be in testing or at least at the regular ftp server, or /msg dpkg snapshot and look at the instructions |
| 15:12.59 | StyXman | CutMeOwnThroat: no, I clean the cache on every update (mot much spare space) |
| 15:13.16 | StyXman | I'll try the snapshots |
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| 15:13.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions firmware-iwlwifi |
| 15:13.31 | judd | Package firmware-iwlwifi on i386 -- etch/non-free: 0.4+etchnhalf.1; etch-backports/non-free: 0.13~bpo40+1; lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny2; lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.27; sid/non-free: 0.28 |
| 15:13.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | StyXman, 0.27 is in squeeze |
| 15:14.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, strange |
| 15:14.15 | StyXman | CutMeOwnThroat: ack |
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| 15:15.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | stew, the open comes after the stat... *shrug* perhaps checks for changes (but I can run multiple times in a row and it always opens it) |
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| 15:17.50 | michelem | hello folks |
| 15:18.05 | michelem | I have a weird behavior on my debian installed on the OpenMoko FreeRUnner |
| 15:18.43 | michelem | I have the wifi interface set up in /etc/network/interfaces . If I take it online with "ifup eth1" it works, but it will not come up at boot |
| 15:19.00 | michelem | although it _is_ listed in the "auto" interfaces |
| 15:19.14 | michelem | what can be the cause of that? |
| 15:19.21 | babilen | michelem: "auto eth1" ? And you *might* want to rename the interface to "wlan0" -- /msg dpkg 70 |
| 15:19.35 | babilen | michelem: Does "ifup -a" bring it up? |
| 15:19.43 | michelem | I have "auto lo usb0 eth1" |
| 15:20.07 | michelem | babilen: some scripts in the qpe distribution want it as eth1 ... |
| 15:20.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, but usb0 would usually fail on boot |
| 15:20.12 | michelem | let me try |
| 15:20.23 | babilen | michelem: ack |
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| 15:20.33 | michelem | oh, are they a chain? |
| 15:20.38 | babilen | chain? |
| 15:20.39 | michelem | I thought they'd be independent |
| 15:21.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno, I just mean it's probably not useful to have that in there... |
| 15:21.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | shouldn't all of those be allow-hotplug? |
| 15:21.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | *all but lo |
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| 15:22.16 | stew | allow-hotplug would make it come up in fewer situations than auto, not more |
| 15:22.47 | michelem | confirming "ifup -a" takes it up |
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| 15:22.55 | stew | hmm, actually i'm wrong |
| 15:23.12 | babilen | michelem: Hmm, it should be brought up by /etc/init.d/networking as well -- as it calls "ifup -a" |
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| 15:24.18 | michelem | babilen: who calls networking? |
| 15:24.29 | michelem | ls /etc/rc2.d/*networking* —> no such file or directory |
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| 15:24.51 | stew | michelem: it's typically started in rcS.d not 4rc2.d |
| 15:24.58 | stew | s/4// |
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| 15:25.18 | michelem | idem |
| 15:25.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | allow-hotplug would bring it up in _different_ situations ... and auto should probably work for him when the network is available |
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| 15:25.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | but allow-hotplug needs... what was it |
| 15:25.55 | michelem | no, was checking another terminal :) |
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| 15:26.34 | michelem | "/etc/rcS.d/S40networking restart" takes eth1 up fine |
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| 15:26.40 | michelem | wtf :) |
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| 15:28.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | michelem, perhaps it happens too early and the wireless hardware is still busy procrastinating |
| 15:28.22 | babilen | procasturbation! |
| 15:28.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | promastrubating |
| 15:28.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
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| 15:31.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway, on a mobile, wouldn't you want something like network-manager to take care of wireless connections? |
| 15:31.55 | michelem | yeah, but that doesn't work either |
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| 15:32.07 | michelem | software for the freerunner sucks big time |
| 15:32.25 | michelem | very patchy, very inflexible, very limited |
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| 15:52.45 | danols | hi all |
| 15:53.16 | danols | is there a better tool than apachetop for the console |
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| 16:12.45 | reiddraper | I'm trying to set the nofile hard limit for a process that is started at boot. /etc/security/limits.conf has no affect, I guess because the process isn't started with with pam. Any ideas how to increase the limit? |
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| 16:18.07 | TuGa | hi |
| 16:18.12 | TuGa | hi i have lenny installed with iptables 1.4.2 running, to make changes persistent after reboot i have created a file for rules on /etc/network and created a iptables script on /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ on the script i'm using iptables-restore < 'rules file' command, but after reboot i get the default iptables setup. |
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| 16:18.19 | TuGa | bolt-work, stew nane of script in if-pre-up.d iptables and this is the content http://pastebin.com/bbCfNgbA |
| 16:18.43 | TuGa | how can i make changes persistent after reboot? anyone? |
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| 16:19.50 | jhutchins_lt | TuGa: What I do is create a script that runs the iptables commands I want and call that script at startup. |
| 16:20.16 | jhutchins_lt | The restore function is more recent than my initial setup. |
| 16:21.18 | TuGa | jhutchins, ok and how to call it at starup? this lenny |
| 16:21.23 | TuGa | *startup |
| 16:21.39 | niklaswe | TuGa: put it in /etc/rc.local |
| 16:21.45 | stew | TuGa: try using a "pre-up" line in your eth0 (or similar) stanza instead |
| 16:21.50 | stew | niklaswe: /etc/rc.local is too late |
| 16:22.10 | TuGa | stew, just tried pre-up on interfaces and no luck |
| 16:22.21 | stew | odd |
| 16:22.25 | TuGa | yes |
| 16:22.31 | TuGa | really |
| 16:22.40 | stew | TuGa: is it possible that something later in the boot sequence is clearning the rules? |
| 16:22.41 | jhutchins_lt | TuGa: I call it from rc.local. This is a very static system. |
| 16:22.48 | stew | rc.local is too late |
| 16:23.30 | jhutchins_lt | stew: In that it happens after the interface is already up? |
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| 16:23.44 | stew | TuGa: can you perhaps do an iptables-save in post-up just to see if your rules are there then? |
| 16:24.05 | TuGa | stew my sys is ossim, alienvault that builds on deb lenny with iptables 1.4.2 and in fact after boot sequence finishes iptables -L shows lots of rules activa/config |
| 16:24.21 | stew | jhutchins_lt: i assume that your iptables script is there because there is traffic you don't want to allow. if you do it in rc.local there are times you are allowing the traffic you don't want to allow |
| 16:24.28 | niklaswe | stew: i mean if he make a script with the rules and running the script from rc.local. |
| 16:24.41 | stew | niklaswe: yes, rc.local is too late |
| 16:25.03 | jhutchins_lt | This is theoretically correct. |
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| 16:25.31 | stew | its practically correct |
| 16:26.00 | stew | TuGa: wait, iptables -L shows rules, but not the ones from your script? |
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| 16:26.10 | TuGa | stew, yes |
| 16:26.28 | stew | TuGa: yeah, so then you need to figure out where ELSE in your boot sequence iptables rules are isntalled |
| 16:26.41 | TuGa | :s |
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| 16:27.29 | stew | TuGa: what is ossim? |
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| 16:27.44 | TuGa | alienvault |
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| 16:28.07 | stew | what is alienvault? |
| 16:28.25 | TuGa | http://www.alienvault.com/ IDS IPS ... |
| 16:28.46 | TuGa | build on deb lenny |
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| 16:32.36 | dkr | so it's a gui front end for a bunch of network monitoring tools. interesting. |
| 16:32.57 | TuGa | dkr, very interesting... |
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| 16:34.34 | dkr | heh, I thought it was in squeeze already, but apparently they stole the name from ossim.org. :) |
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| 16:34.58 | TuGa | nope they build! ossim :) |
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| 16:35.32 | dkr | seems strange to make an entire distro for it, though. when it is just a wrapper around software that comes with debian |
| 16:35.46 | Fah | Should I be able to download a netinst image from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ still? |
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| 16:36.22 | ansgar | Fah: I just tried as well, seems like the page is outdated: rc1 of the installer is available, but the links still point to beta2. |
| 16:36.34 | ansgar | Fah: Try http://ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/squeeze_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 16:36.43 | Fah | the http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ files exist at least |
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| 16:37.21 | dkr | "Source Code Strongly discouraged," hah |
| 16:37.27 | Fah | Not sure yet how well the install process works, but its a start |
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| 16:39.09 | crs | Hi. I am experiencing very slow (few seconds) login to my debian testing box. I tried to google it but all I could find was related to ssh connections which is not a problem I am having as delay happens after password is inputed and motd displayed. It take about 4-5 seconds before prompts shows up. It happens all the time: i) when I login remotely via ssh; ii) when I login localy through VT; iii) when I su |
| 16:39.11 | crs | to other user. It happens straight away after fresh installation so I would not blame myself. Oh, this is armtel. |
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| 16:40.37 | Fah | crs: it sounds like you're waiting on dns timeouts. Is your hostname valid? Does it resolve? Is it on your hosts file? |
| 16:41.15 | Fah | Does ping $HOSTNAME work? |
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| 16:41.43 | crs | Fah: I added it to hosts but it didnt help... I wii revisit it now. Be back in two minutes. |
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| 16:42.17 | ma3x | how can i run badblocks on root partition ... if i dont have boot/cd/usb. single user mode won't allow me to remount / read-only. any advice? is it safe to run badblocks on mounted / |
| 16:43.07 | Fah | mount / -o remount,ro |
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| 16:43.20 | crs | Fah: I have IP and hostname in hosts file. also ping $HOSTNAME pings localhost. |
| 16:43.22 | Fah | dont run badblocks on a live filesystem unless you really dont care about it |
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| 16:43.47 | armetiz | I there, |
| 16:43.57 | crs | Fah: The reason why I think it is not related to ssh or network problems is because it also happens during local logins and users switching with su. |
| 16:44.12 | armetiz | I'm looking for a system to backup binairy file.. I have find "savelog".. |
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| 16:44.33 | armetiz | Do you think that "savelog" program is a good thing ? do you know an other good solution to do rotation backup ? |
| 16:44.37 | Fah | crs: resolver issues can affect anything that wants to look up entries. See nsswitch.conf to see how user lookups can hit the network stack. |
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| 16:45.18 | Fah | I'm not saying it is the network. I'm just suggesting you don't rule it out entirely. |
| 16:45.36 | jhutchins_lt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:46.03 | karlpinc | ma3x: Single user mode _will_ allow you to remount / read-only. However /etc/mnt won't be updated and the output of mount will be wrong and say it's still read-write. (Last time I tried) |
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| 16:46.51 | ma3x | I tried mount / -o remount,ro but it says filesystem is busy and it doesnt unmount/remount |
| 16:47.07 | crs | Fah: I understand. I hope to solve it as this is extremely annoying issue. Here are two lines from nsswitch.conf: hosts: files dns |
| 16:47.09 | crs | networks: files |
| 16:47.14 | ma3x | do you think badblocks -svn /dev/sda1 on mounted root partition will damage it? |
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| 16:50.17 | jhutchins_lt | crs: You may find disabling ipv6 helps. |
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| 16:51.48 | crs | jhutchins_lt: Oh, worth trying. One sec. |
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| 16:54.16 | jhutchins_lt | I've also wondered if turning off /etc/issue would help. |
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| 16:55.14 | crs | jhutchins_lt: I executed sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 and commented out all ipv6 entries in /etc/hosts file and relogged but it is slow. |
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| 16:56.44 | crs | jhutchins_lt: If it comes to disabling /etc/issue - it is not being printed out during su which is also slow. |
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| 16:57.14 | jhutchins_lt | ssh uses /etc/motd |
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| 16:57.30 | stew | crs: i'd guess it was reverse dns |
| 16:57.32 | jhutchins_lt | However, I have PrintMotd no, and it still prints. |
| 16:58.31 | jhutchins_lt | Enable that, it prints twice. |
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| 16:59.53 | jhutchins_lt | Must be in the shell env. |
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| 17:12.17 | pielgrzym | hi |
| 17:13.04 | pielgrzym | how can I make dpkg-reconfigure the package forcefully? I want to reconfigure gitolite, but I've done this wrong way in the first place and I get annoying infor that "gitolite seems to be already set up" :[ |
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| 17:15.03 | pielgrzym | nvm, did rm -rf /var/lib/gitolite and then everything worked :] |
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| 17:18.25 | stew | pielgrzym: sounds like it might be a bug. is this something reproducable? |
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| 17:19.24 | pielgrzym | stew: not sure :) by default gitolite installs and says it won't autoconfigure due to no key provided. then I do dpkg-reconfgure. |
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| 17:19.56 | stew | pielgrzym: and then dpkg-reconfigure fails? |
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| 17:20.06 | stew | or it fails to start until you dpkg-reconfigure? |
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| 17:21.53 | pielgrzym | stew: it brings up a curses interface, when I finish configuring it it says it failed because /var/lib/gitolite dir seems to be configured :) |
| 17:22.04 | pielgrzym | I tried apt-get purge gitolite |
| 17:22.11 | pielgrzym | but it leave the dir |
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| 17:22.18 | pielgrzym | manuall deletion of this dir helps :) |
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| 17:23.57 | fatalerrors | hi everybody |
| 17:24.16 | fatalerrors | i have a problem mouting a nfs share :/ |
| 17:24.51 | fatalerrors | all_squash is activated on the server |
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| 17:25.38 | fatalerrors | and all the computers have the same users with same uid and gid |
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| 17:25.56 | fatalerrors | i can mount the share on a debian sid computer |
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| 17:26.26 | fatalerrors | but not on my gentoo and lfs |
| 17:26.37 | fatalerrors | the server is debian too |
| 17:26.53 | discozohan | Hello! Anyone here, who has experience with KVM and drive redirection ? |
| 17:26.55 | fatalerrors | the error is access denied by server |
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| 17:27.20 | discozohan | how can i boot with drive, that i redirected to kvm ? |
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| 17:28.22 | norii | anyone having trouble with the rndis driver with debian testing? |
| 17:28.35 | norii | the ics off my touch pro 2 isnt working anymore |
| 17:28.53 | fatalerrors | not that all the clients have the same fstab line for that share with default parameter |
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| 17:29.07 | fatalerrors | s/not/note |
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| 17:29.50 | fatalerrors | any idea? |
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| 17:31.12 | fatalerrors | any nfs pro here? |
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| 17:32.49 | stew | fatalerrors: is there an error in the syslog on the server? |
| 17:33.14 | fatalerrors | stew: did not check it wait a minute |
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| 17:33.32 | septiq | Hi, since squeez upgrade initramfs won't assemble my 2 scsi disks raid1 array, in initramfs console though i can do so manually and mount md0 ; i tried raising rootdelay but it won't solve even if it seems a delay issue (my ultra2wide scsi drives are slow to come up), something like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=433905 ? should i manually patch local-top/mdadm script ? any idea ? thanks |
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| 17:34.43 | pinkisntwell | how do i restart the sound server or whatever i need to restart to get my sound back? it stopped working and i don't want to restart the system |
| 17:34.58 | cahoot | try alsa force-reload |
| 17:34.59 | fatalerrors | yes stew... it's \"svc: Failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97)\" |
| 17:35.01 | discozohan | anyone here experienced with kvm and drive redirection ? How can i force remote server to see redirected drive ? |
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| 17:35.27 | fatalerrors | stew: what is the origin of that error? |
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| 17:36.12 | stew | fatalerrors: no idea. but now you have something new to google :) |
| 17:36.45 | fatalerrors | stew: yes... allready enjoying it !! |
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| 17:37.03 | nirazio | I want to insert an item to System menu under About Gnome,how to do it?? |
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| 17:39.07 | fatalerrors | stew: ok i have something |
| 17:39.20 | fatalerrors | it's about ipv6 support |
| 17:41.06 | fatalerrors | a bug in kernel nfs implementation when ipv6 is not enabled in nfs and enabled with the whole network |
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| 17:42.02 | fatalerrors | for me the only workaround if to disable ipv6 when loading my gentoo and send them a bug report |
| 17:42.51 | fatalerrors | and same for the debian server |
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| 17:44.01 | fatalerrors | stew: do you think i should send a bug repport about this problem regarding linux kernel? |
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| 17:50.36 | nirazio | I want to insert an item to System menu under About Gnome,how to do it?? |
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| 17:51.44 | stew | fatalerrors: sure |
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| 17:54.21 | xingu | fatalerrors: try adding vers=3,mountvers=3 to your mount options on the broken client. |
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| 17:55.18 | derdon | good evening, ladies and gentlemen! |
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| 17:55.34 | orangey | hello all. |
| 17:55.43 | derdon | hi orangey |
| 17:55.46 | orangey | any ideas where I can find some backported packages for lenny? Specifically I'm looking for horde 3.3 |
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| 17:58.58 | TuGa | stew, any idea were to start looking for the iptables insertion point on the boot process? |
| 17:59.33 | stew | TuGa: /etc/init.d ? |
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| 18:00.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions horde3 |
| 18:00.03 | judd | Package horde3 on i386 -- etch: 3.1.3-4etch7; etch-security: 3.1.3-4etch7; lenny: 3.2.2+debian0-2+lenny2; lenny-security: 3.2.2+debian0-2+lenny2; sid: 3.3.8+debian0-2; squeeze: 3.3.8+debian0-2 |
| 18:00.04 | TuGa | yes i have been there but nothing related to iptables... |
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| 18:00.43 | stew | TuGa: ask ossim |
| 18:00.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | orangey, you will have to backport those yourself ... for a factoid on the procedure, /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 18:01.13 | TuGa | stew, yeap already on it |
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| 18:03.24 | jhutchins_lt | orangey: Pure PHP projects like Hoard are often better managed by their own internal tools. Drupal, for instance, has version tracking and update alerts built in. |
| 18:03.53 | orangey | jhutchins: I don't believe that's in Horde, but putting in the 3.3.8 packages from squeeze worked well |
| 18:04.02 | orangey | i just have to watch closely for any security updates |
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| 18:04.21 | jhutchins_lt | orangey: Since the packages are only PHP scripts, and are confined to a single portion of the filesystem, this works much better than conventional software outside of the system's package management. |
| 18:04.27 | stew | they are unfortunately frequent with horde |
| 18:04.44 | orangey | jhutchins: Agreed |
| 18:04.57 | jhutchins_lt | orangey: Updates are also often significant or critical, and the delay in waiting for a packaged version is unnecessary. |
| 18:04.57 | orangey | stew: Which is why I was reluctant to exit the repo |
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| 18:06.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | do backports get security updates now? |
| 18:06.47 | stew | sometimes |
| 18:07.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | I meant in a reliable way |
| 18:07.21 | jhutchins_lt | CutMeOwnThroat: I wouldn't describe it that way. |
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| 18:07.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just see there are some listed on backports.debian.org |
| 18:07.32 | Fah | What version of python is in testing at this point? |
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| 18:08.03 | stew | Fah: http://packages.debian.org/python |
| 18:08.09 | Fah | got it, thanks |
| 18:08.31 | stew | well, that's not really as useful since so many packages start with "python" |
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| 18:09.02 | Fah | its perfectly valid in the sense of the python version that all those packages have in common |
| 18:09.04 | stew | Fah: 2.5.5, 2.6.6 |
| 18:09.08 | Fah | 2.5 vs 2.6 |
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| 18:09.47 | discozohan | can anyone say, how can you load from drive, redirected through kvm ? |
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| 18:09.58 | stew | Fah: and 3.1.3 |
| 18:10.38 | Fah | is 3.1.3 the system default for testing or stable? |
| 18:10.44 | datenritter | hi! i'm looking for a squeeze-installer (i have to set up a server with a 3ware 9750 controller, but 3w_sas is not in the lenny-kernels) - where can i get an image? |
| 18:11.03 | Shadow` | www.debian.org |
| 18:11.08 | stew | Fah: no |
| 18:11.27 | stew | judd: versions python |
| 18:11.28 | judd | Package python on i386 -- etch: 2.4.4-2; lenny: 2.5.2-3; sid: 2.6.6-3+squeeze4; squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze4; experimental: 2.6.6-10 |
| 18:11.29 | stew | Fah: ^^ |
| 18:12.14 | Fah | cool, thanks. I found it also on the packages site |
| 18:12.14 | derdon | I have problems with the sudoers file. Here is the content of /etc/sudoers: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/318988/ and this is the output after ``groups simon``: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/318989/ |
| 18:12.14 | Shadow` | datenritter: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ ? |
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| 18:12.24 | derdon | but sudo does still not work for the user simon |
| 18:12.51 | datenritter | Shadow`: just found http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/20110106/images/ |
| 18:13.04 | jhutchins_lt | derdon: Did you use visudo to edit it? |
| 18:13.12 | derdon | jhutchins_lt: yes, I did |
| 18:13.18 | stew | datenritter: what is the output of "groups" from the shell you are trying to use sudo? |
| 18:13.22 | stew | derdon: ^^ |
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| 18:13.41 | stew | datenritter: are you sure that squeeze has that driver? |
| 18:13.46 | datenritter | oh, but no isos there |
| 18:13.58 | derdon | stew: only "groups" or with the argument "simon"? |
| 18:14.07 | datenritter | (19:13:18) stew: datenritter: what is the output of "groups" from the shell you are trying to use sudo? <-- uh? |
| 18:14.11 | stew | derdon: just "groups" |
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| 18:14.15 | stew | datenritter: ignore that, sorry |
| 18:14.22 | derdon | stew: without the argument, "sudo" is not in the list |
| 18:14.22 | datenritter | (19:13:41) stew: datenritter: are you sure that squeeze has that driver? <-- well, at least it's in 2.6.37 |
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| 18:14.44 | derdon | stew: that means, simon is in the group sudo, but not in this process of the shell, right? |
| 18:14.44 | stew | ah, it in squeeze, my apt-file was out of date |
| 18:14.51 | datenritter | stew: a friend of mine found a quote on the web saying that "it's in the squeeze kernels" (i know they are <2.6.37) |
| 18:15.11 | stew | derdon: yes, because adding a user to a group doesn't affect existing processes |
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| 18:15.27 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 18:15.29 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.37-trunk-686 (2.6.37-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-29~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 18:15.32 | stew | datenritter: you could also install stable with a newer kernel: /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 18:15.34 | derdon | stew: but I started a new terminal window quite often and it didn't help |
| 18:15.42 | derdon | s/started/opened |
| 18:16.16 | jhutchins_lt | datenritter: 37 is not in squeeze yet. I believe there are performance issues with kernels > 2.6.32 |
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| 18:16.29 | stew | derdon: logout and back in |
| 18:16.37 | jhutchins_lt | !tell datenritter about kmuto |
| 18:16.45 | derdon | stew: ok |
| 18:17.01 | stew | he doesn't need 2.6.37 |
| 18:17.31 | derdon | stew: ah, it helped. thanks :) |
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| 18:19.18 | datenritter | ok, so i just have to figure if 3w-sas is in 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 18:19.24 | stew | datenritter: it is |
| 18:19.28 | datenritter | cool |
| 18:19.29 | datenritter | thanks |
| 18:19.34 | datenritter | ...burning... |
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| 18:24.37 | crs | Sorry, got disconnected. I was unable to fix that slow login problem. Any more hints? I am clueless now. ;/ |
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| 18:25.20 | stew | crs: can the server quickly reverse map (then forward map) the ip address of the client? |
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| 18:27.35 | crs | stew: I am not sure here. I added IP hostname of host which I am connecting from to hosts file. I can ping client address by ping hostname. |
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| 18:38.00 | fatalerrors | xingu: fatalerrors: try adding vers=3,mountvers=3 to your mount options on the broken client. |
| 18:38.14 | fatalerrors | i did it |
| 18:38.44 | fatalerrors | the error message still appear (on client side also) but it mount ok |
| 18:38.57 | fatalerrors | so no problem any more |
| 18:39.17 | fatalerrors | thanks xingu and stew |
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| 18:41.06 | pbn | hi, hm, still that grub problem... what package should I use with Debian "squeeze"... grub2 I guess ? |
| 18:41.29 | crs | stew: I do not know it for certain but I believe there is something else than dns problem as I takes me from ssh host to Last login: Tue Jan 11 18:25:31 2011 from 10.0.0.10 line in no time and then stops for few seconds before prompt appears. |
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| 18:41.56 | jordanm | pbn: grub2 or grub-legacy, whatever you prefer |
| 18:42.12 | pbn | jordanm: ah, well I'm using grub-legacy :) |
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| 18:42.46 | jordanm | pbn: it can't boot ext4 |
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| 18:43.16 | pbn | jordanm: I don't have ext4 on this box :) |
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| 18:43.28 | jordanm | pbn: whats the problem? |
| 18:43.55 | pbn | jordanm: well since last time I did aptitude upgrade, the splashscreen is gone in GRUB |
| 18:44.04 | pbn | and grub.cfg didn't change |
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| 18:44.46 | jordanm | pbn: grub.cfg isn't used by grub-legacy |
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| 18:45.00 | pbn | jordanm: ah now I get it :) |
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| 18:45.16 | crissi | hello |
| 18:45.17 | jordanm | pbn: it actually should not exist if you opted not to use grub2 |
| 18:45.27 | crissi | i have a problem with dm-multipath. it fails with "error adding target to table" errors in initrd when rootfs is readonly but made readwrite with aufs. |
| 18:45.35 | pbn | jordanm: yeah I think I just found out what was wrong |
| 18:45.36 | crissi | multipath -d shows my path fine but they cant added to the devicemapper target list because dm has failed |
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| 18:45.55 | crissi | does someone know why dmsetup fails? |
| 18:46.02 | ska | I just used tzselect and tzconfig to set my local time, but it still show time in UTC.. |
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| 18:46.41 | simonrvn | ska: logout/login |
| 18:47.05 | simonrvn | or set TZ= environment variable for now |
| 18:47.10 | crissi | the media is rw (via aufs) and write is possible. if i change the media status to rw... its works fine.. seems dm looks in /proc, sys if the media is a readonly media or not. |
| 18:47.48 | ska | ok,, /etc/localtime was not being set.. dpkg-reconfigure tzdata worked. |
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| 19:03.23 | Xenguy | Hi, need a litle help, trying to sync applications on an old box to a new one I'm setting up... |
| 19:03.36 | jordanm | !aptitude clone |
| 19:03.36 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>. |
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| 19:04.13 | Xenguy | Am trying to do the dpkg --set-selections and --get-selections trick... |
| 19:04.45 | jordanm | Xenguy: why not just use what the bot suggests? |
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| 19:05.45 | Xenguy | jordanm: I'm using apt-get, not aptitude (without going down that rat-hole hopefully :-) |
| 19:05.57 | Xenguy | jordanm: or in this case dpkg |
| 19:06.52 | Xenguy | Anyhow I do this on the new box: cat packagelist | dpkg --set-selections |
| 19:08.08 | Xenguy | which is supposed to set applications list to be the same as the old box, but when I run 'apt-get update' (is this correct?), it doesn't detect any new apps to install -- something's wrong |
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| 19:09.02 | jordanm | !tell Xenguy about why aptitude |
| 19:09.08 | jordanm | Xenguy: don't know, never used that method |
| 19:09.12 | jordanm | !dpkg clone |
| 19:09.12 | dpkg | our $apt=Blootbot->new($apt) |
| 19:09.37 | jordanm | !debian clone |
| 19:09.37 | dpkg | One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup>. |
| 19:10.22 | Xenguy | jordanm: Thanks, I'll take a closer look at the '!debian clone' factoid |
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| 19:11.36 | dury | hi there all :) |
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| 19:11.45 | niteria | Hello |
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| 19:11.53 | niteria | what's /boot partition for? |
| 19:12.02 | jordanm | !fhs |
| 19:12.02 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard, or "man hier". |
| 19:12.44 | dury | need to go to an irc of brisbane |
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| 19:12.47 | niteria | ok, better question |
| 19:12.57 | niteria | is /boot really used when booting? |
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| 19:13.16 | jordanm | niteria: its not required to be mounted, no |
| 19:13.37 | jordanm | niteria: its used by grub |
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| 19:14.40 | niteria | so grub reads initrd from /boot, right? |
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| 19:15.20 | Xenguy | jordanm: yep, that worked, thanks (heh, although now it wants to remove gnome, so I'll have to find a plan B anyway :-) |
| 19:15.53 | jordanm | niteria: sort of. it heads it from hdx,x. at the time grub loads the kernel and initrd, the boot partition is not mounted to /boot |
| 19:16.25 | jordanm | Xenguy: thats likely your downside of using dpkg instead of apt |
| 19:16.29 | niteria | my problem is: I want to have /boot on /dev/md0 |
| 19:16.30 | jordanm | !tell Xenguy about unmarkauto |
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| 19:17.16 | jordanm | !mdadm |
| 19:17.16 | dpkg | mdadm is a tool for administering Linux multi-disk (MD) arrays. Debian mdadm FAQ: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-mdadm/mdadm.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/FAQ;hb=HEAD . Linux RAID mdadm FAQ: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Mdadm-faq . See also <MD>. |
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| 19:19.24 | niteria | i need to tell grub to read from md0 not from hdx,x |
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| 19:19.55 | niteria | and I confuse grub's root with boot |
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| 19:20.57 | niteria | or maybe not, there are two roots, grub root = /boot and kernel root = /, right? |
| 19:21.22 | jordanm | niteria: grub-legacy in debian may not be able to boot a md partition, I am not really sure |
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| 19:25.27 | ice799 | Hi. I am using debian-lenny. I am hitting a segfault in both dkim-filter and dk-filter. I am searching for -dbg package that includes debugging symbols for either, one, or both of these binaries but can't seem to find anything. |
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| 19:25.47 | ice799 | So I suppose my question is: do some packages in apt not have a debug symbol package associated with them? |
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| 19:27.24 | ansgar | ice799: No, not all packages have a correspondig -dbg package. It should be possible to build a package including debug symbols yourself, see <http://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace>. |
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| 19:28.35 | ice799 | ansgar: I don't even know who/where to suggest this to, but I'd humbly suggest that if a package has no -dbg package, perhaps the original package itself should be not stripped. |
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| 19:30.51 | ansgar | ice799: I think there are plans to provide debug symbols for all packages, but there is no real progress so far. |
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| 19:31.55 | jordanm | ansgar: I believe you are thinking of ubuntu, who already does that |
| 19:32.11 | jordanm | I have seen it propossed, but not actual plans on implementing |
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| 19:33.08 | ansgar | jordanm: Ok, proposed. A very early stage of planning ;-) |
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| 19:34.02 | goose | The "System > Shut Down" menu, is there a 'command' for that? I want to add it to my cairo dock |
| 19:36.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably |
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| 19:37.38 | jhutchins_lt | ice799: I would think for stable that should not be necessary. |
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| 19:38.00 | jhutchins_lt | ice799: Stable should default to stripped, even if a -dbg package isn't available. |
| 19:38.52 | ice799 | jhutchins_lt: no. |
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| 19:39.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | goo... boo, goo woo :( |
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| 19:40.26 | ansgar | ice799: Becuase you want gigabytes of debug symbols? The -dbg package for the linux kernel takes 1.4 GB alone... |
| 19:40.28 | jhutchins_lt | ice799: Yes. Stable should default to end-user utility. |
| 19:40.42 | jhutchins_lt | ice799: Theoretically stable is NOT testing and should not need debugging. |
| 19:41.10 | nevyn | jhutchins_lt: the problem with debugging symbols is when you need them... you need them. |
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| 19:41.36 | jhutchins_lt | Certainly -dbg packages SHOULD be available, but since someone capable of actually using them can most likely build them, it can default to stripped. |
| 19:41.41 | trench | anyone use debian testing here? |
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| 19:41.55 | jhutchins_lt | trench: Yep. |
| 19:41.55 | ice799 | the installer should just look at the available hard drive space and decide "hm, debug symbols for everything will require 1% of disk space" and then just do it |
| 19:42.10 | ice799 | there should just be a threshold that the installer checks and then installs debug symbols always, for everything. |
| 19:42.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | huh, it's considerable extra-effort to build them, specially when you start out without knowing where exactly you need them |
| 19:42.35 | trench | jhutchins - you use icedove? |
| 19:42.38 | jhutchins_lt | ice799: Some would say the same for docs. I personally think they should default to yes. |
| 19:42.43 | stew | ice799: i don't ever want them on my servers, no matter how much diskspace I have |
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| 19:42.57 | jhutchins_lt | trench: No, kmail running on a lenny box upstairs. |
| 19:42.59 | stew | ice799: if you think this would be useful and ould let users opt out of it, please feel free to try to work up a patch |
| 19:43.00 | ice799 | stew: ok so include an options for weird people like you |
| 19:43.08 | stew | ice799: then perhaps you could propose the change in debian policy |
| 19:43.11 | stew | ? |
| 19:43.22 | stew | ice799: why call me weird? |
| 19:43.27 | trench | jhutchins - if i start icedove in console it starts iceweasel |
| 19:43.39 | trench | so was just wondering if anyone else got the same error |
| 19:43.49 | ice799 | stew: its pretty weird that you dont want debug symbols on your servers no matter how much diskapce you have. |
| 19:44.08 | stew | ice799: why? they are of no use to me, and I do have use for the diskspace |
| 19:44.14 | jhutchins_lt | stew: I tend to agree, but I had a colleague who felt strongly that every server should have a full build environment on it. (I prefer to build on a dev server and package.) |
| 19:44.27 | ansgar | ice799: I don't want them on my desktop. They take space and bandwidth (when updating). |
| 19:44.49 | trench | jhutchins: to afraid of running kmail because it had an error back in the days that it deleted random mails |
| 19:44.53 | stew | ice799: what percentage of end-users would find any use whatsoever for debug symbols? |
| 19:44.54 | cusco | trench: here icedove start icedove |
| 19:44.58 | jhutchins_lt | trench: Dunno, I've seen thunderbird do that on windows though. |
| 19:45.32 | jhutchins_lt | trench: I think I remember that, but it was a long time ago. kmail imap to a local server that runs fetchmail. |
| 19:45.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | ice799, so I have a 2TB drive but a cable modem with 1kps and the installer should decide for me to download 3 times as much because there's no sympathy for weird people like me sitting in alaska or china or something |
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| 19:46.19 | jhutchins_lt | ice799: To say nothing of the majority of users who couldn't use debugging symbols at gunpoint. |
| 19:47.27 | jhutchins_lt | ice799: I'm an experienced, advanced user and I wouldn't have a clue where to start (well, I'd start by getting a clue...). |
| 19:47.29 | trench | cusco: can you send me your /usr/lib/icedove/run_mozilla.sh or post it to a pastbin thingy? |
| 19:47.36 | jhutchins_lt | ice799: I'm NOT a developer though. |
| 19:47.39 | cusco | hold |
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| 19:47.51 | trench | thanks |
| 19:48.03 | cusco | trench: I have no such file |
| 19:48.20 | cusco | trench: oh, I do |
| 19:48.24 | ice799 | ok i am running this shit from debian lenny. it segfaults under load. there is no -dbg package so i cant get a backtrace and see what the bug is. wat do. |
| 19:48.27 | trench | cusco: run-mozilla.sh sorry |
| 19:48.45 | ice799 | if i follow this: http://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace |
| 19:49.05 | cusco | /usr/lib/icedove/run-mozilla.sh http://paste.debian.net/104336/ |
| 19:49.11 | ice799 | ehhhhhhh |
| 19:49.11 | trench | thanks |
| 19:49.26 | ice799 | whats the point of arguing about this. im not gonna convince you, you arent gonna convince me. |
| 19:49.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you follow this then what? |
| 19:49.56 | ice799 | doesnt matter bro doesnt matter |
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| 19:50.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you follow this, then it doesn't matter |
| 19:50.12 | ice799 | i will now wait patiently for this segfault to reproduce |
| 19:50.15 | ice799 | submit a patch |
| 19:50.20 | ice799 | and then wait 5 years for it get into debian |
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| 19:50.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | and thus we progress |
| 19:50.43 | ice799 | at the speed of 2 beach whales fucking. |
| 19:50.48 | ice799 | beached, even. |
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| 19:51.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | which you've never seen and anyway, you just made captain Ahab cry. |
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| 19:52.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | So may I point you to #debian-offtopic if you insist on elaborating further |
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| 19:58.17 | Sorinan | Hi! I'm trying to switch from fglrx to radeon, but when I boot with KMS activated (to have DRI) the X hangs when starting and prevents me from switching to console, altought the system continues normally (I can access by SSH) |
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| 19:58.36 | Sorinan | And i'm getting this message on the logs: (EE) RADEON(0): Timeout trying to update memory controller settings ! (EE) RADEON(0): You will probably crash now .. |
| 19:58.41 | Sorinan | any ideas? |
| 19:59.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | nice of it to tell you... |
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| 20:00.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, obvious thing, make sure fglrx module doesn't get loaded first |
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| 20:01.05 | Sorinan | CutMeOwnThroat, hmm, fglrx doesn't even compile on 2.6.37 |
| 20:01.19 | Sorinan | (i'm using the vanilla kernel) |
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| 20:02.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps how do i get tar to archive three directories at once? do i got to make an include file?? or can i do it on the cli ? |
| 20:02.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | i just freaking oticed its no longer getting my home directory just etc lol |
| 20:03.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmmh there's 2.6.37 in expermental now, too, I think |
| 20:03.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, kernels |
| 20:03.22 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.37-trunk-686 (2.6.37-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-29); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-29~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 20:03.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sorinan, what's the pciid of the card? I assume you checked you have the correct radeon driver... |
| 20:05.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | Eryn_1983_FL, tar -cvzf a.tgz dir1/ dir2/ dir3/ # actually the very first line of "man tar" tells you this by saying [pathname ... ] |
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| 20:06.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, 3rd line |
| 20:06.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | or so |
| 20:06.31 | Sorinan | CutMeOwnThroat, hmm, I have a HD4870, where can I check if it's supported (altought I think I saw that RV770 was supported) |
| 20:06.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | top of page 1 anyway |
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| 20:06.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sorinan, get the pciid with lspci -n -n -n |
| 20:07.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | then can ask judd... although what comes out often isn't TOO useful |
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| 20:14.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | well i am trying to figure out whats wrong with it .. then |
| 20:14.04 | Sorinan | CutMeOwnThroat, the PCI ID is 1002:9440 |
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| 20:14.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, pciid 1002:9440 |
| 20:14.20 | judd | [1002:9440] is 'RV770 [Radeon HD 4870]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel module 'ati-agp' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:9440 http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and the out-of-tree 'fglrx' module. |
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| 20:15.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, seems ok... radeonkernel v2.6.35- |
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| 20:15.37 | simonrvn | judd: pciid 1002:4966 |
| 20:15.38 | judd | [1002:4966] is 'Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel modules 'ati-agp', 'radeonfb' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:4966 |
| 20:15.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | i keep getting premission denied and i am running it from a script as root?!?!? |
| 20:16.00 | simonrvn | it's possible |
| 20:16.01 | kaluva | Hello. base-files in squeeze has just been updated from 5.10 to 6.0. Does that mean 6.0 has been released? If yes, where's the announcement? |
| 20:16.09 | abrotman | kaluva: no |
| 20:16.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | Eryn_1983_FL, mounted read-only? |
| 20:16.23 | simonrvn | kaluva: no, means base-files was updated. |
| 20:17.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | lookin |
| 20:17.12 | kaluva | Huh. Okay, thanks |
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| 20:18.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | bad permissions on the directory |
| 20:18.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 20:19.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | why is a card called "[radeon hd 4870]" in those brackets not using the radeonhd driver... is that counterintuitive or what |
| 20:19.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | i guess i cant have 700 on my backup directory |
| 20:19.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | sucky |
| 20:19.19 | Sorinan | CutMeOwnThroat, So, basically, that link say that it works with radeon with 2.6.35 and above, right? |
| 20:19.25 | Sorinan | i'm with 2.6.37 |
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| 20:19.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | i want to protect it but i am doing the backups on the remote machines as root |
| 20:19.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sorinan, it seems to say that, yes |
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| 20:21.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sorinan, did you check the kernel module is loaded before X starts? |
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| 20:23.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sorinan, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=585955 |
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| 20:24.57 | nivalis | hi, in dash, how do i set the IFS for read to be a tab, and only a tab? if <tab> denotes an actual tab, in bash it is possible to set IFS='<tab>', but in dash the same code will also use space as IFS. tl;dr, how to write a tab in dash for IFS? |
| 20:26.32 | Sorinan | CutMeOwnThroat, it appears to be the same problem, let me study it for a moment |
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| 20:27.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | it ends with you making sure the kernel module is loaded before X starts |
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| 20:29.18 | Sorinan | CutMeOwnThroat, apparently, the display hangs when I load the radeon driver, not when start X, I tried with starting on single mode and loading the module myself |
| 20:29.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | nivalis, should be the same, it's posix |
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| 20:30.11 | nivalis | CutMeOwnThroat: i think so too, but it isn't, the output changes when i change the shebang to use dash |
| 20:30.28 | nivalis | in dash the first space gets interpreted as IFS |
| 20:30.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | bug? |
| 20:30.57 | nivalis | so if i have a file with this content: |
| 20:31.06 | nivalis | test1<space>test2<tab>test3 |
| 20:31.34 | nivalis | and run.. http://pastie.org/1449760 this |
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| 20:32.07 | nivalis | the result will be one line with "test1" and the next line with "test2 test3" |
| 20:32.47 | simonrvn | found bug |
| 20:33.45 | nivalis | i was thinking i might have to do some more escaping or something, but it might actually be a bug? |
| 20:34.07 | simonrvn | sounds like a bug to me on first glance. lemme try. |
| 20:34.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | nivalis, what version of dash is that? |
| 20:34.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, works like it should for me, I get test1 test2 and test3 on the next line |
| 20:34.38 | nivalis | 0.5.6.1-1 |
| 20:34.53 | nivalis | hm |
| 20:35.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions dash |
| 20:35.03 | judd | Package dash on i386 -- etch: 0.5.3-7; lenny: 0.5.4-12; sid: 0.5.5.1-7.4; squeeze: 0.5.5.1-7.4 |
| 20:35.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | where's that from, then |
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| 20:35.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | squeeze and sid only have 0.5.5 |
| 20:35.46 | nivalis | well, (preparing to get kicked) i run arch, but their irc is filled with trolls |
| 20:36.03 | nivalis | sometimes i come here to ask for help, hope you dont mind.. |
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| 20:37.00 | daemonkeeper | I don't think anyone will kick you out of the channel if you disclose not to use Debian ... |
| 20:37.21 | nivalis | yes, im sorry about that, i should have mentioned that. |
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| 20:38.10 | nivalis | anyways, thanks for the help, now i have something to work with |
| 20:38.18 | simonrvn | nivalis: i can confirm that on sid dash |
| 20:38.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
| 20:38.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | sid and squeeze have the same dash |
| 20:38.54 | simonrvn | wait a minute.... |
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| 20:40.31 | nivalis | hm, if you used the think i posted on pastie it might have translated the tab as spaces giving a false positive maybe? |
| 20:40.31 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: shouldn't that be test1\ttest2\ttest3 ? |
| 20:40.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, the pastebin converts the tab in spaces, though |
| 20:40.55 | simonrvn | i put an explicit tab in my echo to create the testfile |
| 20:41.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, test1 test2\ttest3 |
| 20:41.10 | simonrvn | echo 'test1 test2\ttest3' > testfile |
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| 20:41.15 | simonrvn | i get |
| 20:41.17 | simonrvn | test1 |
| 20:41.23 | simonrvn | test2 test3 |
| 20:41.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | within the script it converts the literal tab to spaces |
| 20:41.28 | nivalis | so do i |
| 20:41.28 | poisonbit | echo -e |
| 20:41.33 | poisonbit | or $'\t' |
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| 20:41.40 | poisonbit | or printf |
| 20:41.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | test1 test2 |
| 20:41.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | test3 |
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| 20:41.54 | nivalis | i'd use $'\t' but that isnt supported in dash iirc? |
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| 20:42.01 | simonrvn | yes, but it should be inserting a \n after test1 ... |
| 20:42.07 | simonrvn | shouldn't* |
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| 20:42.40 | nivalis | it should be after test2, where the tab is |
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| 20:43.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://nw.ath.cx/~k/bla.tgz |
| 20:43.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | just so we're speaking about the same thing |
| 20:43.31 | simonrvn | well my dash is fucekd too, and i think it's mentioned in the bts already |
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| 20:43.52 | Polleke | I'm trying to resize a live ext3 root partition (on LVM) on a machine I've no physical access to. Would it be posible to do this from a ramdisk I've chrooted to? |
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| 20:44.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I have 0.5.5.1-7.4, same as sid |
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| 20:44.52 | poisonbit | simonrvn, something like printf '%s %s\t%s' 'test1' 'test2' 'test3' should be portable sh |
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| 20:45.26 | nivalis | CutMeOwnThroat: i get the same result from your tarball |
| 20:46.26 | simonrvn | poisonbit: something like would be more sane |
| 20:46.33 | poisonbit | simonrvn, note that echo -e is not posix, neither $'' |
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| 20:47.10 | simonrvn | i know |
| 20:47.14 | smw | Anyone here know of a tutorial that explains downloading a src deb from the repos, replacing the source package with a newer version, and compiling? |
| 20:47.20 | poisonbit | ah ok :) |
| 20:47.27 | thewanderer1 | !tell smw about uupdate |
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| 20:47.36 | smw | ty |
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| 20:48.24 | smw | thewanderer1, sweet. I expected I would need to do it by hand. |
| 20:48.40 | thewanderer1 | this is Debian :P |
| 20:49.02 | smw | thewanderer1, I am on ubuntu. :-P |
| 20:49.26 | smw | thewanderer1, but this is where I ask... complicated questions ;-) |
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| 20:49.34 | ElDiabolo | !tell ElDiabolo about uupdate |
| 20:49.45 | thewanderer1 | folks, are there any known issues in NFS between Squeeze and Lenny? (client/server) |
| 20:50.21 | abrotman | !tell ElDiabolo about selftell |
| 20:50.36 | abrotman | smw: please don't do that .. you will be banned |
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| 20:51.14 | smw | abrotman, sorry. I am not sure why it is wrong... but I will follow the rules |
| 20:51.22 | Godslastering | if i want a 32 byte chunk, using dd and reading from /dev/random (which is quite slow) am i better off doing "bs=1 count=32" or "bs=32 count=1"? |
| 20:51.33 | blast_hardcheese | smw: Ubuntu != debian |
| 20:51.42 | blast_hardcheese | If you'd like to run Debian, feel free to ask questions here. |
| 20:51.47 | abrotman | smw: this channel is not for Ubuntu support, it's pretty obvious |
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| 20:56.51 | poisonbit | thewanderer1, you mean in the upgrade process? I only found this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=602642 |
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| 20:57.41 | poisonbit | there are some bugs about nfs4, but squeeze release notes doesn't talk nothing about nfs (without 4), thats good |
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| 20:58.15 | poisonbit | I mean you do not need to upgrade lenny to squeeze and nfs3 to 4 at the same time |
| 20:59.25 | poisonbit | also maybe you should doublecheck that dependency boot takes portmap before NFS |
| 20:59.35 | thewanderer1 | well, I already have a working setup with NFS4 squeeze<->squeeze, but I'll be upgrading NFSv3 production servers shortly |
| 20:59.47 | poisonbit | good luck :) |
| 21:00.10 | thewanderer1 | thanks... I hope I don't run into 15-minute delays :P |
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| 21:00.41 | poisonbit | how good is nfs4 ? |
| 21:01.07 | poisonbit | at least is not as bad as nfs3 ? how it goes about stale files, etc ? |
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| 21:04.39 | thewanderer1 | it works as well as nfs3 did, haven't stress-tested it much |
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| 21:05.32 | thewanderer1 | server crashes are handled by a "recovery" period (grace period) in which clients can recover state |
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| 21:05.39 | blast_hardcheese | My NFS server regularly locks up itself and boxes that are connected to it. Not sure if this is a configuration problem or an NFS problem |
| 21:05.56 | blast_hardcheese | *all boxes that are connected to it |
| 21:06.01 | simonrvn | sounds like config problem and maybe driver |
| 21:06.06 | thewanderer1 | blast_hardcheese: if you're running NFSv3, it's unlikely to be a direct problem with NFS, since NFSv3 is stateless |
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| 21:06.18 | thewanderer1 | for NFSv4, this might be a kernel bug, which are rare but do happen |
| 21:06.40 | blast_hardcheese | thewanderer1: One second, I'll paste my exports |
| 21:07.00 | simonrvn | blast_hardcheese: i use tcp as much as i can, it reduced the number of slowdowns by like 50% or more for me. |
| 21:07.14 | thewanderer1 | I also had an NFS server lockup issue, but I figured out it was just a nazi motherboard which kills the kernel at random intervals |
| 21:07.26 | simonrvn | i don't remember one in rcent memory actually |
| 21:07.45 | thewanderer1 | simonrvn: UDP has a lower overhead, are you on a link with packet loss? O.o |
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| 21:08.09 | simonrvn | me it was the old psu in this box which would make the computer reboot |
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| 21:08.16 | thewanderer1 | uh |
| 21:08.23 | blast_hardcheese | thewanderer1: http://blast.hardchee.se/pnopaste/?64 |
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| 21:09.02 | simonrvn | thewanderer1: well, i set it up on an old hub that has massive collision errors but now on a switch |
| 21:09.08 | blast_hardcheese | Seems that I'm using nfsv3, based on the examples in that file, but I guess I could be using nfsv2? |
| 21:09.19 | thewanderer1 | blast_hardcheese: looks like a valid NFSv3 export... what you're hitting comes from elsewhere |
| 21:09.19 | simonrvn | that was years ago, and it worked then so i stuck with it ;p |
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| 21:09.56 | blast_hardcheese | thewanderer1: I've got XFS on LVM on mdadm, raid 5 for 7 disks, all on different controllers. |
| 21:10.02 | simonrvn | thewanderer1: so yeh, there was packet loss. sure udp has more overhead, but i don't have a lot of exports |
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| 21:10.19 | blast_hardcheese | Well, spread out on different controllers. |
| 21:10.25 | simonrvn | if i had 100 boxen connecting i'd switch to udp |
| 21:11.00 | blast_hardcheese | I've got 4 IDE drive controllers, then SATA onboard |
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| 21:11.26 | blast_hardcheese | I guess I might be able to track this down by looking at the kernel panic backtrace? |
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| 21:12.01 | thewanderer1 | yup... |
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| 21:13.20 | blast_hardcheese | thewanderer1: Sorry, this is the first time I've had to deal with this type of thing |
| 21:13.35 | thewanderer1 | kernel panics are like aliens |
| 21:13.51 | thewanderer1 | when you see one, it's even hard to document it :P |
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| 21:15.17 | blast_hardcheese | Guessing panics aren't logged anywhere? |
| 21:15.42 | thewanderer1 | if your filesystem crashes, it is somewhat hard to write anything on it, right? :D |
| 21:16.06 | thewanderer1 | (and filesystems are a common cause of errors) |
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| 21:17.31 | discozohan | should i set bootable flag for my root partition ? |
| 21:17.45 | thewanderer1 | discozohan: either for root, or if you have /boot, for /boot partition |
| 21:17.46 | discozohan | that includes boot |
| 21:17.50 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 21:17.52 | discozohan | ok, thanks) |
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| 21:32.56 | Frantic | hey guys, is nginx 0.8.x packaged anywhere for lenny? I've seen it's packaged for sid, but is there any repo around like dotdeb for example which has an acceptable version of nginx? |
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| 21:33.40 | Frantic | the reason I need nginx >=0.8 is because it has builtin uwsgi support |
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| 21:34.30 | sneakers | What is the proper way to start gvfs on debian squeeze? Thanks. |
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| 21:37.31 | lockon | Frantic, yes, it is. |
| 21:37.43 | lockon | Well, custom-compiled into a deb, anyway. |
| 21:38.12 | babilen | !ssb |
| 21:38.12 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add ONLY a <deb-src> line for sid to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 21:38.32 | Frantic | lockon: any idea where? :) |
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| 21:38.43 | babilen | Frantic: Backport it yourself ^^^^^ |
| 21:38.54 | lockon | Frantic, my server. heh. Hold on, let me pull it up. |
| 21:39.24 | lockon | Yeah, nginx really isn't that tough to build into a deb using the backports dsc. |
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| 21:43.56 | lockon | Frantic, amd64 build is okay, right? |
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| 21:47.24 | Howie69 | This is a distribution question, since the software exists, just not for Lenny |
| 21:47.39 | Howie69 | PCI complaince people are nailing me about the lack of updates to php5 on Lenny |
| 21:48.00 | Howie69 | It's the only package with a major security flaw, but for some reason security.debian.org hasn't released any updates for it |
| 21:48.13 | Howie69 | not even in lenny-backports |
| 21:48.20 | Howie69 | any ideas why? Or where I should ask? |
| 21:48.45 | Howie69 | or is it because squeeze has been frozen? :) |
| 21:49.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions php5 |
| 21:49.17 | judd | Package php5 on i386 -- etch: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; sid: 5.3.3-7; squeeze: 5.3.3-7 |
| 21:49.18 | thewanderer1 | this has nothing to do with squeeze |
| 21:49.35 | thewanderer1 | perhaps the security team is slow with this one? |
| 21:49.42 | Howie69 | Min required version is 5.2.11 |
| 21:50.00 | Howie69 | The other dists have 5.3.3 on them |
| 21:50.09 | thewanderer1 | Howie69: version doesn't matter - security team backports patches |
| 21:50.14 | Frantic | lockon: thanks, but that's not what I'm looking for |
| 21:50.24 | thewanderer1 | so the version number is not indicative of security fixes on Debian |
| 21:50.25 | Frantic | lockon: the whole point of finding it in a repo was to get the auto-updates :) |
| 21:50.38 | Howie69 | thewanderer1: does to the PCI complaince scanners |
| 21:50.39 | Frantic | lockon: otherwise I can just ./configure && make && make install myself |
| 21:50.54 | thewanderer1 | Howie69: then you take a package and hack its version number in debian/control yourself... |
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| 21:51.13 | Howie69 | hrm, I haven't thought of that :) |
| 21:51.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | same patchlevel etc. in lenny and lenny-security, though in this case |
| 21:51.27 | Howie69 | thewanderer1: point me to reference, it's been a LONG time since I've tried that |
| 21:51.27 | Frantic | but isn't it a bit weird how even lenny-backports doesn't have a recent version of nginx? it's like a 2.6.28 kernel =) |
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| 21:51.38 | thewanderer1 | Howie69: btw. on amd64 (I hope your server is NOT i386!) this recent hole is not exploitable at all |
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| 21:51.51 | Howie69 | thewanderer1: It is amd64 |
| 21:51.53 | Howie69 | hrm |
| 21:51.57 | stew | there is a php bug that they haven't patched, and for unknmown reasons, the bug cannot seem be exploited on the unpatched stable version |
| 21:52.03 | Howie69 | I'm going to have a word with these annoying pci compliance people |
| 21:52.06 | thewanderer1 | Howie69: then there's no security vulnerability on your system |
| 21:52.15 | stew | Howie69: however, why is it that you would let a 3rd party discover your php version? |
| 21:52.17 | Frantic | is the sid structure so different or is it just a squeeze copy? could I install the sid package on lenny and have it work? |
| 21:52.29 | Howie69 | I had no idea HOW they did |
| 21:52.31 | lockon | Frantic, you can talk to the maintainer about it if you want. |
| 21:52.36 | Howie69 | I thought it was zipped up tight |
| 21:52.40 | stew | Howie69: i'm guessing you let it out via apache headers |
| 21:52.40 | Howie69 | if I could block it I could |
| 21:52.41 | lockon | Frantic, you can compile it from source. |
| 21:52.47 | thewanderer1 | Howie69: dpkg --extract, along with dpkg --control, and then dpkg-deb --build or such |
| 21:52.50 | Howie69 | Thta's what the port says |
| 21:52.53 | thewanderer1 | I don't exactly remember |
| 21:53.07 | stew | Howie69: if you say "HEAD http://yourserver/something" do you see the php versino? |
| 21:53.07 | Howie69 | I guess I could block it by the apache headers... |
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| 21:53.12 | stew | you can |
| 21:53.21 | Howie69 | goes to look THAT up |
| 21:53.55 | stew | Howie69: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#servertokens |
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| 21:54.18 | Howie69 | stew Thanks |
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| 21:54.23 | Howie69 | I'll block the versions then :) |
| 21:54.29 | lockon | Frantic, this is what I do: http://lockon.pastebin.com/08wUHyEn |
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| 21:54.56 | stew | Howie69: its often best. its sometimes impossible to convince PCI auditors that they should use logic and reason instead of just "but 1 < 2" |
| 21:54.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | Frantic, testing and sid are usually quite close together package-versionwise... while they mostly differ lots from stable |
| 21:55.14 | lockon | Frantic, and if you want my 0.8.53 build, let me know and I'll put it online. |
| 21:55.53 | sneakers | I have gvfs, gvfs-backends, and gvfs-fuse installed on debian squeeze, but none of them are running. What is the proper way to start gvfs? I am looking for a result that is something like this: http://paste.debian.net/104356/ |
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| 21:57.10 | stew | Howie69: oh, look in /etc/apache2/conf.d/security |
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| 21:58.44 | Howie69 | stew: Looking :) |
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| 21:59.51 | Howie69 | stew: I assume I want "Minimal" |
| 22:00.19 | Howie69 | Nope, major |
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| 22:00.48 | stew | Howie69: Prod? |
| 22:00.59 | Howie69 | I would like to show that it's at least Apache2 |
| 22:02.55 | niklaswe | in which packages can i find Rbg.pm (the perl module) |
| 22:03.18 | stew | Howie69: just wait until your next audit comes back "apache version 2 is less than minimum required version: 2.2.3" :) (i don't really know) |
| 22:03.30 | Howie69 | probably |
| 22:03.52 | Frantic | lockon: thanks for the tips :) |
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| 22:05.40 | Howie69 | stew: Turning off ServerSignature too |
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| 22:10.44 | Howie69 | I wonder if they would like it if I started 800 security scans at once and killed their server? :) |
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| 22:13.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | why'd you need 800, wouldn't one suffice to find out if they're affected? |
| 22:13.43 | Frantic | lockon: btw, if you're still using the squeeze dsc, is there any reason why not just download the sid .deb for nginx? |
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| 22:14.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're compiling with the libraries from lenny |
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| 22:14.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | while the deb was not |
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| 22:15.47 | lockon | Frantic, I'm not using anything but Lenny Backports' dsc and fresh nginx source. |
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| 22:16.09 | Frantic | lockon: oooh you're right, 0.7 is from backports :) |
| 22:17.01 | Frantic | CutMeOwnThroat: yep, I was thinking about something else and another question came out, I actually meant why not get the 0.8 dsc instead, but lockon clarified it was actually from backports and not from squeeze |
| 22:17.15 | babilen | Frantic: Just backport it yourself -- /msg dpkg ssb |
| 22:17.34 | babilen | Frantic: And I thought you need 0.8 not 0.7 that is available from bdo |
| 22:18.16 | Frantic | babilen: yep, 0.8 |
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| 22:18.24 | Frantic | but sadly none of this solves my problem :) |
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| 22:18.29 | Amnesia | anyone familiar with setting up automounting of usb and cdroms over here? |
| 22:18.42 | Amnesia | if possible using only udev |
| 22:18.53 | Frantic | I wanted a maintained version of nginx for this machine to get updates without backporting it myself every time |
| 22:19.04 | babilen | Frantic: Why does backporting 0.8 from sid to squeeze does not solve you problem of "I want to install nginz 0.8+ on lenny" ? |
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| 22:19.46 | lockon | Frantic, btw, before compiling using an older version's dsc, you will want to remove any additional patches the maintainer put in place. |
| 22:19.49 | Frantic | babilen: because the result is the same as if I make install myself, I get a non-maintained version |
| 22:20.08 | babilen | Frantic: If you want a supported version use the one in Lenny or from backports. |
| 22:20.56 | babilen | Frantic: And the version in sid *is* supported. |
| 22:21.12 | Frantic | babilen: yes, but my machine runs lenny not sid :( |
| 22:21.46 | babilen | What do you expect us to do? |
| 22:21.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | ever heared the phrase "you have to die one type of death"? |
| 22:21.57 | Frantic | nothing man, I was just asking around :) |
| 22:22.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | although it's a crappy translation from German... |
| 22:22.39 | babilen | Frantic: You can probably backport the version from sid. It is an official version from Debian, but is just not supported for your release. |
| 22:22.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's still true in English! I've never heard from anyone avoiding dying alltogether |
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| 22:23.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess it's "pick your poison" in English :) |
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| 22:23.37 | babilen | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah :) |
| 22:24.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | although not exactly the same |
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| 22:24.52 | babilen | both deadly ;) |
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| 22:25.22 | Tekk_ | how do I get the hostname of [17:17] |
| 22:25.23 | Tekk_ | ERC> /join debian |
| 22:25.25 | Tekk_ | >< |
| 22:25.27 | Tekk_ | sorry |
| 22:25.36 | Tekk_ | how do I get the hostname of a computer on my local network? |
| 22:25.46 | Tekk_ | I know the ip address, but the hostname would make it easier to track it down |
| 22:26.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | babilen, more choice for Germans :-P Englishmen only die of poison... well, it's the food over there in Britain |
| 22:27.00 | ktwilight | CutMeOwnThroat, yo |
| 22:27.06 | babilen | Tekk_: "host IP" ? |
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| 22:27.21 | ktwilight | CutMeOwnThroat, guess what the freaking problem was? |
| 22:28.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes... you installed half of squeeze into your lenny :) |
| 22:28.33 | Tekk_ | babilen: pretty sure not |
| 22:28.47 | Tekk_ | like, is there *anything* that will list all hostnames on your lan? |
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| 22:29.20 | Frantic | Tekk_: you mean the netbios name? |
| 22:29.39 | ktwilight | CutMeOwnThroat, it was the dangling symlink that caused the problem. |
| 22:29.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | Tekk_, yes, the dns server... but you might not have anything like hostnames known outside any of the computers |
| 22:29.48 | Frantic | Tekk_: the names you see in windows when you go to "My network"? :) |
| 22:30.34 | Tekk_ | Frantic: no idea, haven't used windows in years |
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| 22:30.50 | Frantic | Tekk_: ok, then what hostnames are you reffering to? |
| 22:30.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | Frantic, actually, it seems that machines can also report their hostname to the router/dhcp server |
| 22:30.54 | Tekk_ | basically the thing is that there's an IP address on the LAN that's taking up ungodly amounts of bandwith |
| 22:30.58 | Tekk_ | and I have the IP address for it |
| 22:31.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I doubt you get it back via dns... well, you might |
| 22:31.12 | Tekk_ | but it's hard to track down the thing with just an IP address |
| 22:31.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | why? |
| 22:31.32 | babilen | Tekk_: Who gave it the IP address, where is it routed? |
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| 22:32.02 | Frantic | Tekk_: if the router gave it an IP (DHCP) it might have the hostname CutMeOwnThroat mentioned |
| 22:32.19 | Frantic | in that case you can check it out in the router, to which you probably have access since you see the bandwidth usage |
| 22:32.29 | stew | The_Machine: getent hosts 1.2.3.4 |
| 22:32.31 | wissem | a solution for skype video support on linux? |
| 22:32.33 | stew | err |
| 22:32.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | ktwilight, how'd it do that? |
| 22:32.54 | babilen | wissem: what about skype? |
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| 22:33.05 | stew | Tekk_: getent hosts 1.2.3.4 |
| 22:33.41 | wissem | can't make videos calls using skype on linux |
| 22:33.46 | Tekk_ | ...that didn't print anything O.o |
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| 22:33.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't think that'll work... as I think/guess wildly that he's talking of something like a home set-up... |
| 22:34.04 | wobblyonions | hi everyone |
| 22:34.22 | stew | Tekk_: then you can't, given your /etc/hosts and your configured dns servers, determine a name for that number |
| 22:34.28 | Frantic | Tekk_: you can also try nmblookup |
| 22:35.04 | Frantic | Tekk_: but what "names" are you reffering to actually? where have you seen those names before? :) |
| 22:35.58 | babilen | wissem: Why not? Works wonderful ... |
| 22:36.03 | Frantic | is python-pip really not in lenny nor lenny-backports or amy I having a really hard time finding it? |
| 22:36.26 | Frantic | s/amy/am/g :) |
| 22:37.23 | babilen | Frantic: It is not, and you can easily install it into a virtualenv of your choice (even by default -- hooray!) |
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| 22:39.27 | DotHack | is anyone using debian lenny as ipsec l2tp vpn gatewway? |
| 22:39.41 | Frantic | babilen: that's true :) |
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| 22:40.18 | Frantic | i'm just gonna uname -a to see if I'm also running a 2.4 kernel -.- |
| 22:41.25 | wissem | babilen:using the beta version for lenny ? it didnt work for me :( |
| 22:42.20 | babilen | wissem: I use the 64bit version for Ubuntu on Squeeze with ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk |
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| 22:43.30 | wissem | babilen:i ll give it a try and get backk to you.thanks |
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| 22:44.43 | babilen | wissem: Which Debian release do you use? Which architecture? |
| 22:45.25 | holoseen | wireless problem on new laptop install of squeeze. wireless is bcm4312 lp-phy. wifi light is on. laptop attempts to connect, but fails. anyone help? |
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| 22:46.25 | wissem | babilen, i m on a debian lenny with this kernel Linux debian 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 ,32 bit |
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| 22:47.59 | babilen | wissem: Ok, that is completely different from my setup. And I am afraid that #debian can't really support skype. I would try to install the version for Debian Lenny (32bit) and check their forums. But what is your issue? |
| 22:48.05 | HackeMate | hello, i have a usb hard disk with ntfs file system and i want to check it, because is usb, smartctl wont check it, is there other tool? |
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| 22:48.52 | babilen | HackeMate: I would strongly recommend to use Windows tools for that. |
| 22:48.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | what scary log message... TCP: Treason uncloaked! |
| 22:49.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean... treason! |
| 22:49.07 | HackeMate | thats the funny thing |
| 22:49.09 | babilen | haha |
| 22:49.11 | HackeMate | i dont have any windows around |
| 22:49.28 | HackeMate | i think i will format to ext2 then try e2fsck |
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| 22:50.17 | babilen | HackeMate: Hmm, ext4 might be an option as well. |
| 22:51.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think he wants to check for physical damage? |
| 22:51.15 | HackeMate | yes, for physical damage |
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| 22:52.02 | babilen | HackeMate: There is ntfsfix in ntfsprogs, but I have no idea how good that works. If you don't need NTFS I wouldn't use it. |
| 22:52.20 | HackeMate | ntfsfix only repair the bad umount |
| 22:52.26 | babilen | HackeMate: Ah, you want to test your disk regardless of the filesystem? |
| 22:52.31 | HackeMate | indeed i already tried it |
| 22:52.45 | HackeMate | yes, i suspect this hard disk could be broken |
| 22:53.02 | babilen | Why don't you say so then :-) -- Use badblocks |
| 22:53.15 | babilen | (and give it a night or two) |
| 22:53.23 | holoseen | wireless problem on new laptop install of squeeze. wireless is bcm4312 lp-phy. wifi light is on. laptop attempts to connect, but fails. anyone help? |
| 22:54.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | wouldn't "cat /dev/yourdisk >/dev/null" already show any unrecoverable errors as I/O errors? |
| 22:54.04 | Polleke | holoseen, do you have more information than "fails"? |
| 22:54.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | and what about disks automatically dropping in replacements... |
| 22:54.17 | qq- | !4312 |
| 22:54.17 | dpkg | Broadcom BCM4312-based wireless LAN devices are supported by the <b43> driver. The BCM4312 low-power PHY (PCI-ID 14e4:4315) is supported as of Linux 2.6.32, install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer (contrib) in Squeeze. Lenny users: for Linux 2.6.32 packages, ask me about <bdo>; see also http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-lp to provide required firmware. For BCM4312 LP-PHY support in earlier kernels, ask me about <wl>. |
| 22:54.58 | holoseen | Polleke, yes. attempting to connect causes the panel indicator to spin, but then it must time out and no connection happens. |
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| 22:56.28 | holoseen | Polleke, I have tried configuring my wireless router with no security and it still times out. Not sure where to go from here. |
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| 22:57.21 | Polleke | holoseen, ok... thats not helping much.. I would recommened you to setup the connection from a shell instead of gui and look for problems |
| 22:57.55 | Polleke | holoseen, I've little to no experience with wifi in linux, so I can't give you more pointers than that |
| 22:58.13 | babilen | holoseen: Have you read the factoid dpkg just mentioned? |
| 22:58.38 | holoseen | Polleke, sorry, what factoid? |
| 22:58.48 | holoseen | oh i see it. |
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| 22:58.58 | babilen | hehe |
| 22:59.12 | babilen | cheers qq- :) |
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| 23:00.42 | holoseen | Polleke, I followed the install instructions as per that factoid that got me where I am now. Oh, well. |
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| 23:02.13 | Polleke | holoseen, I can only give you general linux advice. Work from a shell, look at logs, google errors, debug it |
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| 23:04.11 | babilen | firmware installed? module loading fine? (check dmesg) interface available ? (check ifconfig -a) ready to activate? (check ifconfig wlan0 up) ready to set wireless settings/scan networks? (iwconfig wlan0 and iwlist wlan0 scan) |
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| 23:04.56 | terron | is there a way to permanently remove all traces of an interface? I have a leftover tunnel from when I was trying to set up ipv6 (I ended up going with a solution on my router instead) and I believe it's conflicting with some things |
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| 23:05.28 | terron | ifconfig <interface> down disabled it, but it still shows up in route, for instance |
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| 23:06.54 | sneakers | What is the proper way to start gvfs on Debian Squeeze? |
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| 23:09.50 | babilen | holoseen: have you checked that? ^^^ |
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| 23:11.22 | emery | Having some trouble with fluxbox, gnomes networkmanager doesnt seem to work with it .. and when i try open it in xterm it tells me it's already running, so i try kill it and it kills fluxbox |
| 23:11.35 | emery | doesnt seem wicd see's my wireless card either |
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| 23:13.29 | holoseen | babilen, I keyed those commands and most returned results but the last. |
| 23:13.29 | holoseen | iflist wlan0 scan returned nada |
| 23:13.29 | holoseen | iwlist wlan0 scan returned nothing. |
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| 23:15.48 | babilen | holoseen: And you are sure that there is a WiFi around? |
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| 23:16.40 | holoseen | babilen, yes. I can see it listed in the panel applet. |
| 23:17.47 | holoseen | looking at dmesg. I see wlan0 listed. one msg says "no probe response from ap 00:... timed out |
| 23:17.53 | babilen | which panel applet? you installed the firmware? the module can be removed and reinserted without problems (may i have a look at the respective dmesg output?) |
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| 23:18.44 | holoseen | firmware installed. dmsg lines coming up. |
| 23:19.24 | terron | I'm trying to remove all traces of an ipv6 tunnel which is conflicting with my router's settings. How would I remove routes such as http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6rgYxyvc ? Additionally, simplying doing ifconfig <interface> down didn't seem to actually remove it, just disable it. How would I go about doing that? |
| 23:19.28 | emery | tried .. iwconfig wlan0 essid "Router" |
| 23:19.29 | emery | ? |
| 23:19.41 | Frantic | wtf I cannot get a gpg --gen-key in lenny, not enough random bytes, is there anything I should do to make the freakyn random bytes? since I don't have HW access to the machine |
| 23:19.52 | Frantic | I've ran a long make and nothing |
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| 23:20.52 | babilen | holoseen: May I also have a look at the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" please (paste the line in here) |
| 23:21.12 | emery | holoseen, tried iwconfig wlan0 essid "Router" ? |
| 23:21.17 | emery | worth a pop! |
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| 23:22.37 | holoseen | dmsg pastebin at debian.pastebin.com/HK35ZG7u |
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| 23:23.52 | Frantic | cat /dev/random gives nothing :) |
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| 23:25.23 | terron | Frantic: what about urandom? |
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| 23:26.24 | babilen | holoseen: There are a couple of errors, which module did you load? Could you run "modprobe -r b43-phy0 ; modprobe b43 ; dmesg|tail -n 10 ; iwconfig" and paste the output? |
| 23:26.41 | babilen | and remove b43 as well if it loaded |
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| 23:27.52 | babilen | or not :) |
| 23:28.07 | babilen | holoseen: Ah you're back .. |
| 23:28.21 | babilen | holoseen: There are a couple of errors, which module did you load? Could you run "modprobe -r b43-phy0 b43 ; modprobe b43 ; dmesg|tail -n 10 ; iwconfig" and paste the output? |
| 23:28.43 | babilen | I would still like to see the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" as well |
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| 23:31.05 | babilen | holoseen: I'll hibernate soon :) |
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| 23:34.11 | Frantic | guys, any idea how I could get gpg to let me create a key with realName=root, it says it must be 5 chars long :-z |
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| 23:35.03 | holoseen | babilen, can you repost that line to try? |
| 23:35.08 | holoseen | sorry |
| 23:35.52 | babilen | modprobe -r b43-phy0 ; modprobe b43 ; dmesg|tail -n 10" "iwconfig" "lspci -nn|grep -i network" |
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| 23:36.50 | holoseen | hope this is not flood! root@oachita:/home/steve# modprobe -r b43-phy0 ; modprobe b43 ; dmesg|tail -n 10" "iwconfig" "lspci -nn|grep -i network |
| 23:36.50 | holoseen | FATAL: Module b43_phy0 not found. |
| 23:36.50 | holoseen | tail: 10 iwconfig lspci: invalid number of lines |
| 23:38.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | the bit after -n 10 is wrong |
| 23:38.11 | Spec | holoseen: modprobe -r b43-phy0 b43 ; modprobe b43 ; dmesg|tail -n 10 ; iwconfig; lspci -nn | grep -i network |
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| 23:39.18 | holoseen | ok will pastebin shortly |
| 23:40.01 | babilen | i'm off ... good night :) |
| 23:40.28 | holoseen | http://debian.pastebin.com/TKTxSUNL |
| 23:40.32 | babilen | and given that b43-phy0 is not loaded anyway don't remove it |
| 23:41.26 | babilen | well, ain't that beautiful? and "iwlist wlan0 scan" does not give you anyhting? |
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| 23:42.25 | holoseen | babilen, yes iwlist gives me a ton of output |
| 23:42.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, say hello to your neighbors |
| 23:42.55 | babilen | haha |
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| 23:43.28 | babilen | holoseen: This, holoseen, is the Internet! (don't drop it! or the elders will be mad) |
| 23:43.54 | holoseen | whaat? |
| 23:43.56 | babilen | I would say it is working now ... |
| 23:44.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | zeitsofa, can you switch that off, wahtever it is, please? |
| 23:44.14 | babilen | holoseen: That was a quote from IT Crowd (watch if you haven't already) |
| 23:44.46 | holoseen | ok. will watch it. I like the office |
| 23:45.05 | holoseen | http://debian.pastebin.com/3dXvwy5F |
| 23:45.36 | daemonkeeper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjtiTk1KiTA !! |
| 23:45.39 | holoseen | that panel indicator just turns and no connect. |
| 23:46.20 | babilen | holoseen: Your wireless adaptor is working -- I would recommend using wicd. May you have a nice day/night/whatev |
| 23:46.23 | babilen | :) |
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| 23:46.43 | holoseen | babilen, I appreciate your help. good night from houston.; |
| 23:46.50 | babilen | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 23:46.59 | holoseen | read it. |
| 23:47.00 | holoseen | thanks. |
| 23:47.04 | babilen | holoseen: You are welcome, good evening from Edinburgh :) |
| 23:47.18 | holoseen | been to aberdeen. nice. |
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