| 00:00.04 | gbear14275 | slept, I get an "error 15" if I boot without the debian disk, if I boot the debian disk I get the standard menu and don't know how to get to a standard shell (all the menu's kick into an install) |
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| 00:00.40 | gbear14275 | slept, If I could get to a grub prompt I could manage |
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| 00:01.56 | dvs | gbear14275: hit one of the function keys during the install. |
| 00:01.58 | slept | gbear14275, try to do an expert install at least some versions ago (etch maybe) you could select wich part of the install you wan't to do next. this would give you the ability to go down the list to install bootloader on disk |
| 00:02.24 | gbear14275 | slept, tried that, jumps to the partitioner but wont go past that... |
| 00:02.41 | gbear14275 | slept, at least I tried in rescue mode... I'll try in expert mode now |
| 00:03.03 | gbear14275 | dvs, what do you mean hit one of the function keys? you mean to get to a shell? |
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| 00:03.48 | slept | gbear14275, easy but not ellegant at all would be to download the supergrubcd , use it to boot into the system and install grub |
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| 00:04.41 | gbear14275 | nothing can be done from the debian standard disk? |
| 00:05.34 | slept | gbear14275, not saying that - I just don't know how if the install bootloader option is not available |
| 00:05.36 | dvs | gbear14275: yes |
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| 00:06.39 | gbear14275 | dvs, ok done that... now what? the only grub related command I can get to is "grub-installer" and that doesn't have any help or man pages |
| 00:07.37 | dvs | gbear14275: Im not sure what you want to do. You wanted a shell prompt. |
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| 00:12.15 | gbear14275 | dvs, can you tell me how to install grub from the debian CD1? That shell (the one you described) only has grub-installer as a command... which spits back an error. |
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| 00:14.05 | dvs | gbear14275: I've never used it from the installer buy I usually run "grub-install /dev/sda" after it's fully installed. |
| 00:14.18 | slept | gbear14275, do you have mount and chroot ? |
| 00:14.27 | slept | in the shell |
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| 00:16.41 | slept | gbear14275, busybox does have that |
| 00:16.57 | gbear14275 | slept, yes I do have mount and chroot |
| 00:17.21 | slept | gbear14275, mount /dev/your_harddrive /mnt |
| 00:17.34 | slept | gbear14275, chroot /mnt |
| 00:17.40 | slept | mount /proc |
| 00:18.00 | slept | install grub |
| 00:18.31 | gbear14275 | great, lemme try that |
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| 00:20.44 | gbear14275 | slept, awesome! got a better shell now... it still looks like grub-install isn't there though :( |
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| 00:21.36 | gbear14275 | aptitude install grub can't find it or grub-pc |
| 00:21.48 | gbear14275 | grub-install doesn't work either... there another trick to installing grub |
| 00:21.49 | gbear14275 | ? |
| 00:22.08 | slept | gbear14275, dpkg -l |grep grub tells you if you have grub |
| 00:22.36 | gbear14275 | slept, no return :( |
| 00:22.37 | khaije|minder | so i want to install hplip on a headless server, but hplip depends on hplip-gui (which i dont want) how to i leave that one out w/o breaking the package? |
| 00:22.45 | gbear14275 | shouldn't it be on the cd? |
| 00:23.03 | slept | gbear14275, /etc/init.d/networking start |
| 00:23.17 | slept | to get a connection to the internet |
| 00:23.28 | slept | not sure if that will work |
| 00:24.40 | gbear14275 | slept that worked but my only connection is a wireless card that needs wireless-tools, just tried to install that... no go |
| 00:24.56 | gbear14275 | wait |
| 00:24.57 | slept | k |
| 00:25.03 | gbear14275 | wireless tools came back from a grep search |
| 00:26.06 | slept | you can downloa grub-legacy from packages.debian.org put it on a usbstick or floppy and install that |
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| 00:26.21 | gbear14275 | how do I install using dpkg |
| 00:26.34 | slept | dpkg -i filename.deb |
| 00:26.34 | dpkg | installs filename.deb into slept's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
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| 00:28.28 | zrin | is there a way to find corresponding device name for an ata port, like in "ata6.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED"? |
| 00:28.39 | gbear14275 | slept, when I execute dpkg -l | grep wireless I get the result ii wireless-tools with the description... does that mean it should be installable? |
| 00:28.54 | gbear14275 | dpkg -i wireless-tools doesn't seem to work |
| 00:28.55 | dpkg | removes a liver from gbear14275 and replaces it with wireless-tools doesn't seem to work |
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| 00:29.06 | slept | it means that it is already installed |
| 00:30.18 | slept | the -l gives you the status of all the packages curenty on your system ii is instaled rc is removed with config remaining |
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| 00:31.52 | gbear14275 | slept, how would i start wireless networking? is it different from the previous command? |
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| 00:32.28 | slept | gbear14275, I am not much of a help for wireless so this will be slow and painfull |
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| 00:33.35 | gbear14275 | slept, you are already a god send! |
| 00:33.40 | slept | iwconfig is used to configure it. if you have wpa2 I am totally lost |
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| 00:35.02 | slept | gbear14275, if you do have an usb drive/stick/pen or a floppydrive this will save us a lot of work |
| 00:36.32 | gbear14275 | slept, I wish, the system is a tecra 8000 from 1999, can't boot from usb |
| 00:36.45 | gbear14275 | but I do have a usb if that would help in other ways other than booting |
| 00:37.28 | slept | gbear14275, it does not have to. the idea is to transfer the grub package to the system so that you can install it |
| 00:37.29 | jhutchins_lt | gbear14275: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
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| 00:38.15 | slept | jhutchins, right now he is in a chroot missing grub and wlan to download it |
| 00:38.27 | jhutchins_lt | gbear14275: Never mind, hadn't read far enough back. |
| 00:38.31 | jhutchins_lt | What you need is |
| 00:38.38 | jhutchins_lt | !apt offline |
| 00:38.38 | dpkg | To use apt on a machine that doesn't have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does have a network connection), read http://batmat.net/apt-offline/ch3.html Ask me about <apt-zip><apt-walkabout>. |
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| 00:40.53 | slept | gbear14275, to get wireless working ou need the kernel module loaded, i guess the installer didn't do that for you so do lspci to findout what adapter you do have |
| 00:41.19 | slept | or lsusb if it is a usb wlan |
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| 00:43.23 | slept | quitte, can one get wlan working out of a chroot which was startet from a debian install cd ? |
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| 00:46.47 | gbear14275 | slept, I grabbed a usb stick and downloaded grub onto it, how do I install from usb? lsusb is returning nothing... |
| 00:47.06 | gbear14275 | the wireless is pcmcia |
| 00:47.35 | gbear14275 | slept, ps, lspci: command not found |
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| 00:48.28 | sbl | Hi |
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| 00:49.06 | jkyle | What s3 tool is most recommended for debian? Fuse? |
| 00:49.09 | slept | gbear14275, mount /dev/sd.. use tab for auto completion the usb stick is one of the drives listet |
| 00:49.15 | sbl | Who knows how to do replication mysql databases with phpmyadmin? |
| 00:49.24 | jkyle | I see a "s3cmd" too |
| 00:50.36 | sbl | I see "[Note] Slave I/O thread: connected to master 'slave@x.x.x.x:3306',replication started in log 'mysql-bin.000001' at position 842" but nothing happens... |
| 00:50.38 | slept | gbear14275, maybe you have to do /etc/ini.d/udev start first |
| 00:50.47 | sbl | I don't know why this not work :/ |
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| 00:51.43 | jhutchins_lt | sbl: Are you getting transactions on the master? |
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| 00:52.23 | gbear14275 | slept, udev requires mounted a sysfs, not started. |
| 00:52.33 | slept | mount -a |
| 00:52.58 | gbear14275 | no return |
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| 00:54.01 | gbear14275 | is there a way to tell what the name of the CD is? I was looking at the sources.list file and the old cd is listed but not this one. I figured I could put this cd in the sources.list file and perhaps read the packages from it |
| 00:54.02 | slept | gbear14275, with mount you will see what is mounted , this should include sysfs . now you can start udev |
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| 00:54.47 | slept | gbear14275, actually there is . didn't think abou that |
| 00:54.57 | gbear14275 | mount doesn't list sysfs |
| 00:55.17 | jef91 | Anyone know how I can fully remove a repository component using the reprepro command? |
| 00:55.42 | slept | gbear14275, apt-cdrom add |
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| 00:56.19 | gbear14275 | failed to mount cdrom |
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| 00:56.33 | gbear14275 | mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist |
| 00:57.01 | slept | gbear14275, that has to do with the installer cd |
| 00:57.08 | gbear14275 | :-/ |
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| 00:57.19 | gbear14275 | I could manually enter the line if I knew the cd title? |
| 00:57.21 | slept | mmmh |
| 00:57.25 | slept | no |
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| 00:58.35 | slept | gbear14275, change the console with ALT + F3 back to busybox |
| 00:58.58 | slept | use find ./ |grep grub*deb |
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| 00:59.46 | esing | hi agn, |
| 00:59.59 | esing | searching a .wav player for debian shell |
| 01:00.00 | gbear14275 | slept, thank you again (while grep searches) |
| 01:00.07 | sbl | jhutchins_lt: I configured master with slave. Master see slave and slave see master. In logs I see that slave is connecting to master, but nothing more to do. |
| 01:00.08 | esing | can I use sweep for this? |
| 01:00.25 | slept | than copy the grub related files to /whateverplace_you_mounted_your_harddrive_before_the_chroot/tmp |
| 01:00.40 | slept | after that you can install it |
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| 01:04.26 | slept | gbear14275, the find is the thing that searches . with the | you hand over the output of find to grep and than grep uses those files (everything that is on the cd) and filtes out the files containing grub in their name |
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| 01:08.36 | gbear14275 | slept, ok so the command would be (from busybox) cp file_location /dev/hda1/tmp ??? I'm having problems... sorry |
| 01:08.58 | slept | seems to be right |
| 01:09.30 | slept | no |
| 01:09.48 | slept | you mountet that somewhere /dev/hda1/tmp |
| 01:09.57 | slept | the mount in busybox |
| 01:10.05 | slept | this will tell you where |
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| 01:11.11 | slept | gbear14275, it should be /mnt/tmp |
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| 01:11.45 | slept | gbear14275, cp /full_path_to_file/filename /mnt/tmp |
| 01:11.50 | gbear14275 | got em! :) |
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| 01:12.44 | gbear14275 | ok have them in the other shell now... so the command is 'dpkg -i packagename' right? |
| 01:13.13 | gbear14275 | will wait to make sure I don't mess this up |
| 01:13.20 | slept | yes, but you have to use the full path |
| 01:13.30 | slept | they should be in /tmp |
| 01:14.38 | slept | gbear14275, dpkg -i /tmp/grub-pc_some_version.deb |
| 01:15.14 | gbear14275 | slept, I think I'm on my way! |
| 01:15.32 | gbear14275 | slept, are you going to be around for a bit? I'd like to pm you in a sec and want to make sure you aren't leaving soon |
| 01:17.31 | slept | gbear14275, do not pm no one , never in case I (or someone else) tells you to do somethingstupid no one is there to say stop it. eventough people do not talk a lot , they do listen and stop bad things frm happening |
| 01:17.41 | slept | at leat that is what i hope |
| 01:17.57 | gbear14275 | slept, this is personally related... I appreciate the warning |
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| 01:18.31 | slept | than its stange , I am a random guy tring to help you installing a bootloader |
| 01:18.44 | slept | but that is off-topic |
| 01:18.44 | gbear14275 | slept, tried grub-install said: cannot find a device for /boot/grub... |
| 01:19.06 | slept | grub-install (hd0) |
| 01:19.17 | slept | or grub-install /dev/sda |
| 01:19.22 | slept | or grub-install /dev/hda |
| 01:19.59 | gbear14275 | grub-probeL error: cannot find a device for /oot/grub |
| 01:20.04 | gbear14275 | /boot/grub |
| 01:20.23 | slept | try the whole list i wrote down |
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| 01:24.01 | gbear14275 | tried them all |
| 01:25.08 | slept | nothing ? hmm |
| 01:25.32 | slept | maybe i forgot about an other step in between |
| 01:26.24 | slept | grub-mkdevicemap |
| 01:28.32 | slept | in busybox do mount -o bind /dev /mnt/root/dev |
| 01:28.34 | gbear14275 | slept, btw... I apologize but i'm not sure if I told you i copied over the grub-pc files |
| 01:28.37 | gbear14275 | but i did |
| 01:28.43 | slept | thats good |
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| 01:29.23 | slept | you instaled them aswell as far as I recall, problem is grub doesn't know yet that you do have a harddrive |
| 01:29.36 | slept | on which it can be installed |
| 01:30.45 | gbear14275 | that command didn't work... and I may have just messed up because I executed 'mount -o bind /dev /mnt/boot |
| 01:31.41 | jef91 | Anyone know how I can fully remove a repository component using the reprepro command? |
| 01:31.44 | slept | umount /mnt/boot |
| 01:32.00 | gbear14275 | thanks... |
| 01:34.17 | gbear14275 | would it be just 'mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev? |
| 01:34.18 | slept | you have to switch to the "ugly" shell (busybox) to mount than switch bach and install grub |
| 01:34.36 | gbear14275 | yeah the original mount command you said to execute failed |
| 01:34.41 | gbear14275 | in busybox now... |
| 01:34.43 | slept | yes |
| 01:34.59 | slept | i pastet something wrong |
| 01:35.25 | slept | 'mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev is rght |
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| 01:36.31 | gbear14275 | YES!!! "installation finished" do I need to run anything else before reboot or are we ready to test it out slept? |
| 01:37.03 | slept | gbear14275, if grub-install worked you just need to reboot |
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| 01:37.14 | gbear14275 | ok... |
| 01:37.20 | gbear14275 | crosses fingers and reboots |
| 01:38.09 | slept | make sure to remove the cd |
| 01:38.36 | slept | :D |
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| 01:38.59 | gbear14275 | slept, success! at least in part, I'm now to a grub> prompt... I think I can google from here! Thank you so much for your help! |
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| 01:40.02 | slept | gbear14275, google does know ! use TAB completion to save yourself typing a lot |
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| 01:41.33 | slept | gbear14275, when you sucesfully boot yourr system open a shell and run update-grub (as root) to generate a menu and fix it for good |
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| 01:41.56 | esing | hiho |
| 01:41.58 | gbear14275 | slept, yup I am looking forward to that... now am just reading up on manual booting in grub2 |
| 01:42.10 | esing | I search a shell audio player, which play wav files |
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| 01:42.22 | slept | I finished all my wine, am quite drunk now and will go to bed - good lick |
| 01:42.22 | esing | i dont have any desktop environment installed |
| 01:42.24 | esing | :) |
| 01:42.25 | slept | luck |
| 01:42.37 | slept | stupid typo |
| 01:42.52 | esing | n8 slept |
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| 01:49.35 | bradmaxs | hi everyone. I get this error when I do 'locate apxs2' (locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory) - someone at httpd told me to fix my os and sent me here. Not sure what to do to fix my os. thanks and sorry about the noobness:) |
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| 01:53.33 | whatthefuzz | @bradmaxs try "updatedb" command |
| 01:54.07 | bradmaxs | whatthefuzz: trying now! thanks! |
| 01:54.49 | topgun21 | I wan to do i fresh installation of squeeze or wait to do one until squeeze come out/ |
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| 01:58.25 | bradmaxs | whatthefuzz: do I have to restart apache after that? |
| 01:59.25 | bradmaxs | scratch that. |
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| 02:07.07 | bradmaxs | whatthefuzz: I did updatedb and now when I do locate apxs2 it just goes right back to the prompt instead of the error. Does that mean I don't have it? |
| 02:07.41 | whatthefuzz | exactly |
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| 02:07.53 | jhutchins_lt | bradmaxs: Possibly. Test: locate something you know you have. |
| 02:08.06 | bradmaxs | thanks all! |
| 02:08.14 | pickcoder | looks for his sanity |
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| 02:09.24 | bradmaxs | yep - it ain't there! found some other stuff but glad I got the locate command to work! thanks what the fuzz. thanks jhutchins_lt for helping me confirm |
| 02:10.10 | bradmaxs | so how do I install apxs2? |
| 02:10.20 | topgun21 | I wan to do i fresh installation of squeeze or wait to do one until squeeze come out? |
| 02:10.21 | whatthefuzz | np |
| 02:10.48 | whatthefuzz | apt-cache pkgnames apxs = search |
| 02:10.55 | whatthefuzz | or apt-cache search apxs |
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| 02:11.28 | bradmaxs | it told me apt-cache command not found |
| 02:11.33 | prince_jammys | bradmaxs: look into apache2-mpm-prefork |
| 02:11.56 | whatthefuzz | aptitude search apxs |
| 02:12.30 | jkyle | so, seems that s3fs isn't working for me. are there any other options for mounting s3 drives on debian? |
| 02:13.48 | bradmaxs | prince_jammys: not coming up with anything on a locate. whatthefuzz: saying that aptitude is not a command. something must be wrong with my server?? |
| 02:14.01 | prince_jammys | don't use locate for this |
| 02:14.05 | bradmaxs | ok |
| 02:14.17 | karlpinc | topgun21: You can do a install of squeeze now. |
| 02:14.17 | prince_jammys | is server running debian? |
| 02:14.35 | bradmaxs | prince_jammys: I am not sure - I am very new to this:( |
| 02:14.37 | pickcoder | obviously no |
| 02:14.38 | bradmaxs | how to check |
| 02:14.50 | pickcoder | bradmaxs: did you install it? |
| 02:14.56 | prince_jammys | if you don't have apt-cache, you're likely (definitely?) not running debian |
| 02:15.13 | karlpinc | bradmaxs: What does "cat /etc/debian_release" say? |
| 02:15.16 | bradmaxs | pickcoder: I did not - I thought it was already installed. |
| 02:15.30 | bradmaxs | no file or directory. |
| 02:15.30 | topgun21 | karlpinc: where doi download the iso immage fror dqueeze? |
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| 02:15.32 | pickcoder | btw: thumbs always assumes noobs in #httpd are running Ubuntu or Debian |
| 02:15.39 | karlpinc | topgun21: Hang on. |
| 02:15.40 | whatthefuzz | @bradmaxs are you running as sudo or root? |
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| 02:15.46 | bradmaxs | he sent me here:) |
| 02:15.52 | bradmaxs | root |
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| 02:16.12 | pickcoder | cat /etc/redhat_release |
| 02:16.17 | whatthefuzz | lol |
| 02:16.29 | prince_jammys | either that or you have a funny $PATH. |
| 02:16.56 | karlpinc | topgun21: Do you have a 32 or 64 bit cpu? |
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| 02:16.56 | bradmaxs | pickcoder: I got same for cat /etc/redhat_release |
| 02:17.15 | topgun21 | I have a 64bit machine onwhich i rub 32bit operating system |
| 02:17.16 | karlpinc | bradmaxs: How about "uname -a" |
| 02:17.17 | prince_jammys | cat /etc/issue |
| 02:17.28 | karlpinc | topgun21: So you want a 32 bit version? |
| 02:17.34 | whatthefuzz | or lsb_realease -a |
| 02:17.40 | whatthefuzz | release typo |
| 02:17.41 | bradmaxs | prince_jammys: CentOS release 5.2 (Final) Kernel \r on an \m |
| 02:17.44 | prince_jammys | bingo |
| 02:17.48 | whatthefuzz | oh man |
| 02:17.50 | prince_jammys | wrong channel |
| 02:17.59 | karlpinc | !centos |
| 02:17.59 | dpkg | CentOS (Community ENTerprise Operating System) is a rebuild of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux RPMs by the community. http://centos.org/ For IRC support, join #centos on irc.freenode.net. |
| 02:18.24 | bradmaxs | thanks guys - sorry for the noobness. |
| 02:18.24 | karlpinc | topgun21: Or do you want to run a 64 bit OS? |
| 02:18.54 | topgun21 | I'de rathe run a 32bit sysem |
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| 02:19.23 | karlpinc | topgun21: Ok. (FYI, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware for an overview of available software.) Hang on. |
| 02:19.24 | bradmaxs | so is apxs2 only for debian or were those just debian command I was trying to execute? |
| 02:20.26 | prince_jammys | apt is a packaging system used by debian. You won't be using that in centos |
| 02:20.33 | karlpinc | topgun21: The installation guide is here: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html Follow it, and then ask if you've questions here. You have internet access and want to install off cd? |
| 02:20.37 | prince_jammys | well, i suppose you can, but you won't :) |
| 02:21.18 | bradmaxs | prince_jammys: thanks - it is making sense now:) I appreciate your help! |
| 02:21.25 | karlpinc | topgun21: An install iso is here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_rc2/i386/iso-cd/debian-squeeze-di-rc2-i386-netinst.iso |
| 02:21.27 | bradmaxs | and everyone for that matter |
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| 02:21.42 | prince_jammys | bradmaxs: it's a tool for installing software. Centos will be using something called 'yum'. |
| 02:21.56 | prince_jammys | or managing software. |
| 02:22.06 | bradmaxs | ok I have heard of that. |
| 02:22.21 | bradmaxs | I'll try a google for yum and H264 Streaming Module |
| 02:22.26 | bradmaxs | again thank you! |
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| 02:35.28 | gratnam11 | can some one help me with this http://fpaste.org/zsmz/ |
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| 02:37.06 | prince_jammys | a python error, looks like you need a 'key file' |
| 02:37.29 | prince_jammys | (i have no clue of what, but that's the essence of the problem) |
| 02:38.08 | gratnam11 | i am doing a auth=cert |
| 02:38.14 | gratnam11 | i do have the key file there |
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| 02:41.04 | prince_jammys | check the prog's config, and that you put a file where it expects to find it. |
| 02:41.34 | prince_jammys | see also ''man the_prog'', FILES section, maybe. Excuse the generic advice |
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| 02:45.57 | gratnam11 | actualy u were right |
| 02:46.08 | gratnam11 | it was a spelling mistake |
| 02:46.13 | prince_jammys | generic advice ftw |
| 02:46.26 | gratnam11 | hey it helped |
| 02:46.35 | prince_jammys | (i suspected a carriage return somehow, maybe) |
| 02:46.51 | gratnam11 | hm |
| 02:46.57 | gratnam11 | but i am still gettin an error |
| 02:46.59 | gratnam11 | Server failure: Protocol Error: 401 Unauthorized |
| 02:46.59 | gratnam11 | Failed to download probes from bcfg2 |
| 02:46.59 | gratnam11 | Server Failure |
| 02:47.12 | prince_jammys | well, at least it's a different one :) |
| 02:47.17 | gratnam11 | hehe yes |
| 02:47.51 | prince_jammys | i see there's a guide for configuring that prog for ubuntu. Maybe you can find one for debian, or get a hint from ubuntu's |
| 02:48.12 | gratnam11 | i was fallowing it |
| 02:48.27 | gratnam11 | i dunno maybe i am stupid |
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| 02:49.33 | prince_jammys | google will give you some hits for bcfg2 "Server failure: Protocol Error: 401 Unauthorized" |
| 02:49.47 | prince_jammys | one from bcfg2's official docs. |
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| 02:51.03 | gratnam11 | yeah i saw that still |
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| 03:05.54 | mr_mustard | what is the best debian version to install in an intel xeon e5440, 12mb cache, 2,83 ghz and 2 gb of ram? |
| 03:06.23 | mr_mustard | I thought the i386 would be better, because it only has 2 gb of ram.. but I'm not sure yet |
| 03:07.49 | karlpinc | mr_mustard: It really depends on what apps you'll be running. I do fine with 1G on a 32 bit box that I use as a desktop. |
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| 03:08.25 | mr_mustard | karlpinc: basically apache and php with interbase support, and ssh... |
| 03:08.45 | mr_mustard | an almost one purpose only server... |
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| 03:09.13 | karlpinc | mr_mustard: What's interbase? |
| 03:09.27 | mr_mustard | karlpinc: firebird sql |
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| 03:10.30 | karlpinc | mr_mustard: Dunno. I'd be inclined to use 64 bit, but the only way to know for sure is to benchmark. (And I'm not sure my guess is very good. My brain is full.) |
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| 03:11.50 | mr_mustard | as far as I know it there isn't much performance difference⦠64 bits would only allow you to use 4 gigs and up... |
| 03:12.05 | karlpinc | mr_mustard: Or ask the firebird folks. |
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| 03:13.28 | gbear14275 | can anyone point me to the default sources.list file? mine is fubar |
| 03:13.30 | pickcoder | the bigmem kernel can handle 16gb |
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| 03:15.12 | WormFood | does anyone know, off-hand, what tools in debian will tell me how many sectors/blocks are marked as being bad on an NTFS or fat file system? |
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| 03:16.44 | jmarsden | WormFood: I'm not sure, but did you already try ntfsinfo, possibly with a lot of -v flags? |
| 03:16.52 | karlpinc | !tell gbear14275 about sources.list |
| 03:18.07 | karlpinc | gbear14275: If you've been updating with a bad sources.list you may have broken your system. Mixing releases and adding non-debian stuff is unsupported and breaks things. |
| 03:18.17 | WormFood | I did try ntfsinfo, but don't think I tried many flags, if any....will try again, when I convert the disk to NTFS (unless I figure out some way to manually feed it a list of bad blocks when I create an NTFS partition) |
| 03:18.52 | karlpinc | WormFood: The disk should keep it's own list of bad blocks in firmware. If the OS sees them then the disk is dying. |
| 03:19.19 | WormFood | karlpinc, thanks, but I know exactly what I'm doing. |
| 03:19.37 | pickcoder | WormFood: mount it in windows if you want the truth |
| 03:19.53 | pickcoder | ntfs on linux is still pretty new |
| 03:20.04 | WormFood | yes, the disk is dying, however, I have isolated the problem spots, and the drive is still usable to me, for not-important stuff (it is a portable drive) |
| 03:20.30 | WormFood | actually, I thought ntfs on Linux was new 15 years ago, and is now pretty mature |
| 03:20.41 | pickcoder | read and write.. yes |
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| 03:20.45 | pickcoder | diagnostics no |
| 03:21.10 | pickcoder | ntfs3g will pick up improper unmounting state though as I found out |
| 03:21.13 | WormFood | pickcoder, you know, I tried under winblows, but I still couldn't find that info. (maybe winblows didn't pick up the bad sectors, but I don't know how it could miss them) |
| 03:21.29 | pickcoder | you have to do a full surface scan |
| 03:21.57 | WormFood | pickcoder, duh :P of course |
| 03:22.22 | pickcoder | run dell diags on it if you can find it |
| 03:22.56 | pickcoder | I had a drive pass a bunch of "reliability" tests and the ddiag tool found a bunch of flakey sectors |
| 03:23.14 | pickcoder | or get the manuf specific testing aoo |
| 03:23.17 | pickcoder | s/aoo/app |
| 03:23.22 | WormFood | I KNOW there are tools for winblows to tell me that info, but I really don't want to use winblows, when I'm fairly sure there are tools under Linux (and in debian) to tell me the same thing |
| 03:23.38 | pickcoder | like I said.. I did that and they all said the drive was fine |
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| 03:23.47 | pickcoder | the ddiag is a bootable disc |
| 03:23.59 | pickcoder | scout around for some drive diag livecds |
| 03:24.00 | karlpinc | The less done to a failing drive the better. dd it to another drive (or use that GNU utility that works like dd but ignores errors (rbackup?)) Then go about recovering it. |
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| 03:24.36 | WormFood | pickcoder, I went over the drive with mhdd, and even tho sectors test good in mhdd and in badblocks, I still manually mark the sectors as bad, because they are too slow (and it makes me paranoid, they are flaky) |
| 03:24.42 | Dewi | WormFood: bad blocks are usually a precursor to failure, so people don't tend to tolerate them |
| 03:25.08 | Dewi | WormFood: doesn't the hardware reallocate them anyway? |
| 03:25.20 | Dewi | WormFood: (until you run out of reallocations) |
| 03:25.43 | WormFood | Dewi, I've been working with computers for over 30 years...I'm a professional computer tech....I tell everyone that as soon as they get the first bad sector, to start moving their data off their drive asap, and expect it to fail soon |
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| 03:25.59 | WormFood | Dewi, exactly....too many bad sectors I'm sure. |
| 03:27.00 | pickcoder | you can always hack the geometry in Linux... :) |
| 03:27.02 | WormFood | the area that is bad, is about 1,300,000 sectors big (on a 120 gig drive)....not all of those sectors are bad....but all the bad sectors are in that area |
| 03:27.48 | WormFood | well, I could easily make 2 partitions, and just not allocate the bad space (I did that not too long ago, for a friend who was willing to live with it, to not be forced to buy a new drive right then) |
| 03:28.36 | WormFood | actually, I've had many drives develop bad sectors, that continue to work fine, in spite of the bad sectors (of course, the bad sectors don't work fine, and I allocate them as bad) |
| 03:28.58 | WormFood | anyways, thanks for the input, I gotta take off to the store, and get some stuff for lunch |
| 03:29.05 | pickcoder | freeze it! |
| 03:29.08 | pickcoder | heh |
| 03:29.42 | WormFood | I think freezing mainly works with stuck drives (that won't spin up) |
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| 03:30.02 | pickcoder | I've never had it work.. regardless of the problem |
| 03:30.14 | WormFood | likewise |
| 03:30.23 | pickcoder | it's a myth |
| 03:30.46 | WormFood | I have no doubt it does work, in some special instances, but not a majority of the times. |
| 03:31.19 | pickcoder | posts on Myth Busters |
| 03:31.33 | pickcoder | they'll just resort to blowing it up with C4 |
| 03:31.36 | WormFood | I've worked as an electronics and computer tech, professionally, for almost 25 years, and I've seen a few weird things in my days |
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| 03:32.11 | karlpinc | I'm thinking of ddrescue. |
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| 03:33.10 | WormFood | I had one of the techs I work with, come in from the field, with a resistor that was bad....it was something like 100k or 1m ohm resistor, but when you test it, it was only a few ohms....it was not mislabeled, it went bad |
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| 03:34.18 | karlpinc | WormFood: I've a quick hardware question. Meet me in #debian-offtopic? |
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| 03:40.43 | jkyle | How would I do the equivelent of this: sysctl hw.cpu64bit_capable on a debian system? to determine if the cpu is 64 bit? |
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| 03:46.31 | Unauthorised | howdy, when making a debian package, how I can I specify the install path? or root path? or ?? eg: all files go in /usr/local/bin, or even a file by file "lookup table"? |
| 03:46.44 | Unauthorised | jkyle: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep ' lm ' |
| 03:46.54 | Unauthorised | lm = long mode |
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| 03:47.22 | Unauthorised | hehehe, grep ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo |
| 03:47.31 | Unauthorised | meh, cat grep blah |
| 03:48.01 | Unauthorised | must be sleepy time... |
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| 03:53.57 | jkyle | fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm |
| 03:54.51 | jkyle | here's my issue, just noticed a module failed to load and the /boot is empty. I need to figure out which linux-image kernel needs to be installed and, ideally, which one was uninstalled from a log or some such |
| 03:54.56 | stew | jkyle: the lm flag means it is 64 bit |
| 03:55.27 | jkyle | ok, so I need the 64bit linux-image |
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| 03:56.27 | stew | jkyle: a 64 bit linux-image would work, a 32 bit linux-image would work if you have a 32 bit install |
| 03:56.28 | jkyle | such as this one: linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64. And installing that image should still run these fine: /usr/bin/file: ELF 32-bit LSB executable |
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| 03:56.39 | stew | jkyle: if you have a 64 bit install, only 64 bit packages would be available anyway |
| 03:57.01 | stew | yes, if you have a 32 bit install you can use a 64 bit kernel |
| 03:57.37 | jkyle | ok, I'm going with that the cpu supports it and it covers all the bases :) |
| 03:57.55 | stew | Unauthorised: debian packages are always unpacked in / ; you should not be putting stuff in /usr/local (if you want to be following debian policy) |
| 03:58.10 | stew | Unauthorised: if you are asking about how to run the upstream makefiles that is going to differ from package to package |
| 03:58.19 | jkyle | this looks like a promising one: linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 |
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| 03:58.51 | Unauthorised | stew: i think I found my answer, but have yet to read the doco (trying to find it). packagename.install apparently lists files and their install locations... |
| 03:58.53 | Unauthorised | just can't find the doco |
| 03:59.02 | stew | Unauthorised: man dh_install |
| 03:59.03 | l0rd_hex | does debian offer "flavours" to packages? for example I'd like to install dovecot but I don't want the mysql backend |
| 04:00.00 | Unauthorised | stew: great, thanks! |
| 04:00.20 | stew | l0rd_hex: not for dovecot. you can install dovecot and not configure it for mysql however |
| 04:00.28 | l0rd_hex | stew: ahh gotcha |
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| 04:03.42 | _Techie_ | how cross hardware compatable is a fresh install of debian? |
| 04:04.11 | PlagueRat | hi, hopefully a simple one... debian 5.03, new instal, AMD 3200+, seems to work fine. Cannot get it to connect to LAN through ethernet. Tried system >> administration >> network, but I can't get the settings to "stick". I check "enable" but it always seems unchecked. Did I miss a step ???? |
| 04:04.22 | _Techie_ | if i install it on a brand new desktop system via a 2.5inch IDE adapter, will the fresh install work when i put the drive back into the laptop |
| 04:05.06 | _Techie_ | PlagueRat, you could use the /etc/network/intrerfaces file |
| 04:05.19 | _Techie_ | /etc/network/interfaces * |
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| 04:06.12 | _Techie_ | PlagueRat, http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 04:07.12 | PlagueRat | okay... I actually have a similar box with a working debian 5.03, and had been getting frustrated because /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.conf, etc were all the same... but YES... that file is different. I will see if that does it. |
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| 04:10.15 | PlagueRat | _Techie_ - will Ihave to reboot ? |
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| 04:13.50 | _Techie_ | PlagueRat, no, you can use ifup and ifdown to bring your interfaces online and offline |
| 04:14.14 | PlagueRat | _Techie_ - thanks... I'll give it a try |
| 04:17.08 | PlagueRat | hooo boy, no /dev/eth0 .... |
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| 04:18.28 | _Techie_ | PlagueRat, interfcaces arent in /dev |
| 04:18.59 | _Techie_ | ifconfig -a should list your interfaces |
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| 04:19.40 | jkyle | so, I have the new kernel installed. is there any way to test it without rebooting? make sure I don't lock myself out of the system |
| 04:23.25 | _Techie_ | PlagueRat, well, im gonna reboot with all my HDD's disconnected to install ubuntu onto an external drive, good luck with getting your interfaces working as you want them |
| 04:24.01 | PlagueRat | _Techie_ - thanks for your time |
| 04:24.52 | lolcat | "Neither of the System Logs modules are installed on this system and supported by your OS." |
| 04:24.56 | _Techie_ | PlagueRat, no problem, see you on the other side, btw my BNC has 50 lines of scrollback at any one time so if its not too busy in here, i can answer any questions when i get back |
| 04:25.06 | lolcat | Webmin says that, how do I fix it? Neither of the System Logs modules are installed on this system and supported by your OS. |
| 04:25.36 | PlagueRat | AH HA -- ifconfig shows it's eth2 !!!! |
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| 04:26.03 | jkyle | ok, just rebooted. Now, the only image I have installed is |
| 04:26.04 | jkyle | ii linux-image-2.6.32-bpo. 2.6.32-30~bpo50+1 Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs |
| 04:26.20 | jkyle | but uname -r outputs => 2.6.18-53.1.19.el5.028stab053.14PAE |
| 04:26.30 | dvs | jkyle: why did you uninstall the existing kernel |
| 04:26.47 | jkyle | dvs: completely not intentional. not even sure how it happened |
| 04:27.39 | PlagueRat | BINGO !!!!! |
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| 04:27.41 | jkyle | not to say I didn't do it, but I wouldn't have uninstalled the boot kernel intentionally |
| 04:28.31 | jkyle | thing is, now I'm not even sure where the 2.6.18-43 is coming from (not in /boot) |
| 04:29.27 | dvs | jkyle: what version of Debian is it? |
| 04:29.32 | jkyle | 5 |
| 04:29.42 | jkyle | lenny |
| 04:29.54 | dvs | jkyle: what does /boot/grub/menu.list say? |
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| 04:34.22 | jkyle | figured out what's going on. need to talk to my host admin |
| 04:34.30 | dvs | ok |
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| 04:40.27 | jkyle | it's silly enough where I think it's time to call it a night :P |
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| 04:42.40 | mngrif | there used to be an option somewhere in /etc/defaults that would ensure all NFS shares are mounted immediately after networking comes up. i can't find it. might someone be able to tell me where it is, if it even still exists? |
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| 04:44.45 | Unauthorised | mngrif: I put _netdev in the options section in /etc/fstab and my nfs shares are mounted after the network comes up... |
| 04:44.52 | jhutchins_lt | Crashity crahs flash. |
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| 04:45.27 | mngrif | Unauthorised: i'll give that a shot, thank you. |
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| 04:49.33 | AZora | I believe I have figured out the PHP +Cookie issue but I'm not sure and maybe someone knows the answer as being a config issue, but I doubt it. The same code works on another server (CentOS crap) with the same configuration and functions fine. PHP5.3.3 in testing with Susohin 0.9.9.1 is unable to read cookies in different directories properly. I have 6 URL for the curious, but I prefer private message. I also have phpinfo() available for b |
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| 04:51.30 | _Techie_ | PlagueRat, get it working? |
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| 04:55.26 | tje2 | Hello all. I looked around on Google and didn't see anything obvious. |
| 04:55.44 | tje2 | Can someone please tell me if it's possible to remove the passphrase from a crypto boot setup? |
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| 04:56.23 | tje2 | I used the guided installer to create an encrypted boot filesystem (it's all on FS on /, no other mounts/partitions), and this is a test box |
| 04:56.39 | tje2 | I'm getting tired of having to keep typing in the passphrase every time I reboot it (it's a vmware instance) |
| 04:56.55 | tje2 | Can someone point me to some good docs or maybe a HOWTO? |
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| 04:59.58 | AZora | there is no point in crypto if they passphrase is stored in plaintext somewhere |
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| 05:21.59 | AZora | the PHP question I was asked to research has some responses and needs confirmation before bug report |
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| 05:25.03 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 05:25.24 | johnfg | How do I see what certificates I just installed in epiphany? |
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| 05:26.38 | johnfg | It said they were installed, but I can't seem to get to where they are so I can export them. |
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| 05:35.26 | frewsxcv | where is there no mod_ssl package for apache in the repos? |
| 05:37.03 | streuner | judd, file mod_ssl.so |
| 05:37.09 | judd | mod_ssl.so in lenny/i386: apache2.2-common: usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so; apache2-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so |
| 05:37.43 | streuner | judd, versions apache2.2-common |
| 05:37.45 | judd | Package apache2.2-common on i386 -- etch: 2.2.3-4+etch11; etch-security: 2.2.3-4+etch11; lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny9; lenny-security: 2.2.9-10+lenny9; lenny-backports: 2.2.16-4~bpo50+1; sid: 2.2.16-6; squeeze: 2.2.16-6 |
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| 06:47.31 | hamid | Really next release gonna be on 6 feb ? |
| 06:47.58 | hamid | just tell me it is close :( |
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| 06:49.21 | cantido | umm if you want it quick just run the beta? |
| 06:49.29 | cantido | I mean rc or whatever |
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| 06:50.56 | hamid | cantido, Yeah :) but we want to have on time party. |
| 06:51.17 | nvz | when I plug things in to charge like my ipod or such a box comes up and says a camera has been detected, it has a checkbox for "always perform this action" and two buttons ignore and import |
| 06:51.24 | nvz | how do I get that to stop coming up? |
| 06:51.42 | nvz | you'd think check that box and press ignore.. but I've done that hundreds of times.. heh |
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| 06:52.32 | nvz | its not a camera, I don't want to connect it to my pc.. ever.. its jailbroken and syncs wirelessly.. I just wanna charge the damn thing and do what I'm doing without a dialog poping up everytime the cable jars loose or something |
| 06:52.35 | hamid | cantido, KDE 4.6 is out. it would be perfect if we had Debian in our party ;) |
| 06:52.45 | cantido | it wont be in squeeze |
| 06:53.21 | nvz | ugh.. KDE.. |
| 06:53.34 | hamid | nvz, I know i know :D |
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| 06:53.40 | cantido | It's so bad that its widely used.. |
| 06:53.55 | hamid | nvz, but still some guys love it. |
| 06:53.56 | nvz | I haven't used it in ages.. but I'm sure its still slow and bloaty |
| 06:53.58 | hamid | :P |
| 06:54.08 | jmarsden | nvz: There is probably a udev rule triggering that; it might be a bit ugly but you could look at editing out that rule...? |
| 06:54.15 | cantido | nvz: working fine on my atom machine |
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| 06:54.44 | nvz | jmarsden: I'm not too familiar with udev.. but if you're fairly certain thats where its coming from I can look into it when I'm less tired |
| 06:54.57 | hamid | How many RC bugs left ? |
| 06:55.13 | nvz | cantido: working fine, and working for me are three different things.. |
| 06:55.57 | nvz | cantido: all my machines are roughly 1.6ghz w/ 1gb ram currently (basically what most atom netbooks are) and I don't own a machine that can keep up with me when I'm trying to do something |
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| 06:56.25 | cantido | is pretty sure whatever nvz uses has it's faults |
| 06:56.43 | cantido | nvz: really? I use an overclocked atom for everything |
| 06:56.54 | cantido | nvz: intel graphics + shitty SSD? |
| 06:56.56 | nvz | you got that right.. but its faults don't concern my needs |
| 06:57.36 | nvz | my netbook has a HD and intel, yes.. this laptop has a Pentium M 1.6 and ATI |
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| 06:58.03 | AZora | atom processors are super low performance |
| 06:58.13 | nvz | my desktop I think is like a 2.6ghz Athlon64 or something.. |
| 06:58.20 | cantido | the main problem with the netbooks I have seen is that the intel chipset attached to them is slow as hell |
| 06:58.30 | cantido | and the SSD's had write speed < 10MB/s |
| 06:58.38 | cantido | Atom + ION ftw |
| 06:58.43 | nvz | either way when I get going, they can't keep up.. I find myself waiting on shit all the time |
| 06:59.21 | nvz | yeah I think most of my complaints are IO waits, but none of my computers have an SSD |
| 06:59.36 | AZora | so I have a cookie issue with PHP and Suhosin on the current testing. Same cookie at / is not available on the same domain |
| 06:59.58 | nvz | well, no.. now that I think about it I keep a monitor on all my machines.. and its usually CPU or RAM |
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| 07:00.41 | nvz | I just don't make any money with my machines, and see no reason to go buy a new one. Just so I can run crap like KDE |
| 07:00.49 | nvz | clicking around on eyecandy takes me longer anyhow |
| 07:00.56 | nvz | even if the computer is fast |
| 07:01.01 | cantido | The only perfomance issue I have is with eclipse completing stuff in Android classes when it tries to find the source for the classes etc.. |
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| 07:01.58 | cantido | yeah window maker for the win .. I want a really fast environment thats a pain to use with more than 2 apps running |
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| 07:02.06 | nvz | judd, versions sawfish |
| 07:02.07 | judd | Package sawfish on i386 -- etch: 1:1.3+cvs20061004-1; lenny: 1:1.3.3-1; squeeze: 1:1.3.5.2-2; sid: 1:1.5.3-2 |
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| 07:02.26 | nvz | hmm.. |
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| 08:09.09 | courpse | Anyone familar with skype when audio stops in calls after 5-10 seconds? when ending the call, the sound is normal again, its just mid process. |
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| 08:14.57 | KB1JWQ | courpse: Odd. |
| 08:15.28 | courpse | Yessir. |
| 08:15.41 | courpse | Im unsure if its skype related, or audio driver related, :/ |
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| 08:17.36 | KB1JWQ | Unfortunately I'm not a desktop Linux guy... |
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| 08:18.12 | courpse | I try not to be, :/ but to talk with all the peeps i wanna, i need to use a generic program, :/ |
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| 08:24.46 | dondelelcaro | courpse: ideally everyone would just use sip and/or x509... but unfortunatly, skype wants vendor lock-in. |
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| 08:25.09 | courpse | yeah, :/ |
| 08:25.24 | courpse | And they havent put out a non-beta linux version yet... |
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| 08:27.34 | AZora | so I have a cookie issue with PHP and Suhosin on the current testing. Same cookie at / is not available on the same domain |
| 08:27.41 | AZora | I believe I have figured out the PHP +Cookie issue but I'm not sure and maybe someone knows the answer as being a config issue, but I doubt it. The same code works on another server (CentOS crap) with the same configuration and functions fine. PHP5.3.3 in testing with Susohin 0.9.9.1 is unable to read cookies in different directories properly. I have 6 URL for the curious, but I prefer private message. I also have phpinfo() available for b |
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| 08:28.17 | gnarface | hey people so i know this question is probably beat to death but what is the best thing to use for bandwidth usage monitoring? |
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| 08:30.15 | gnarface | AZora: can you expand upon "properly" ? |
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| 08:31.11 | hyper_ch | hi there, I got a problem with running neroaacenc... it keeps telling me that it cannot open libstdc++.so.6 although the file exists in the /usr/lib folder |
| 08:31.40 | hyper_ch | I even copied the file (the actual file not the symlinked one) to the cwd |
| 08:32.14 | AZora | the cookie set in the phpBB3 folder is unavailable outside that folder due to Suhosin restrictions I believe. the domain .mydomain.com with a path of / |
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| 08:33.00 | AZora | the same code and configuration works fine on another server, I have demo code that just shows the issue, as well as a copy of the working program ported over. phpinfo also available. Working app did not port :/ |
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| 08:34.57 | gnarface | how sure are you the centos server was also stock? |
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| 08:35.36 | AZora | well i compared the phpinfo and cookies at length, and so did the phpBB people. |
| 08:36.26 | gnarface | and the apache logs say nothing? |
| 08:36.29 | AZora | they decided that the cookies not functioning was probably server side since the config was valid, the cookie was stored in browser, and the phpinfo was good |
| 08:37.00 | gnarface | you checked the logs? |
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| 08:37.21 | gnarface | you need to make sure you tell php.ini to log to the apache log |
| 08:37.32 | gnarface | then make sure you know where apache is logging |
| 08:37.38 | AZora | last error log was someone trying to scan me for vulnerabilities. Is there a cookie not found directive? |
| 08:37.55 | AZora | I'm doing print_r($_COOKIE); in all 3 directories |
| 08:38.19 | AZora | code shows / and /game/ match, but /phpBB3 has its own cookie |
| 08:38.44 | gnarface | the server logs will not show client cookie errors |
| 08:38.46 | AZora | I am either chicken little or I'm the canary in the coal mine saying, "There is a deep problem here" |
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| 08:39.12 | AZora | gnarface: i didn't think so, but the error_log doesn't have any information |
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| 08:39.58 | gnarface | the server logs will not show client cookie errors but they may show errors that lead you to a solution nonetheless ... with php you can also disable error logging in two places: the code, and the php.ini... did you check both of them to make sure that logging is enabled (and then restarted apache if you had to make a change) |
| 08:39.59 | AZora | I see other attacks in the error_log, but nothing related to this issue |
| 08:40.27 | AZora | php prints errors, the issue is that the information simply isn't in the cookie |
| 08:40.33 | gnarface | its possible that the site is clobbering the cookies or something |
| 08:40.43 | gnarface | you said this was phpbb integrated into something else? |
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| 08:41.13 | AZora | yes, i'm just trying to set and get a variable from cookie between 2 directories and failing |
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| 08:42.15 | AZora | 3 URL in PM, not sure about posting URL in main |
| 08:43.06 | dsockwell | URLs are fine to paste in #debian |
| 08:43.09 | dsockwell | just not too many at once |
| 08:43.28 | dsockwell | if you keep everything in the open (except for gratuitous spam) then other people can jump in and help |
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| 08:43.44 | WormFood | when I put my computer to sleep, it wakes up when I open the lid...that is exactly what I don't want...I want it to act exactly like windows, where I have to hit the power button to wake it up (because my lid switch gets activated, even when I don't open the lid, and I'm tired of my laptop turning on in the bag) |
| 08:44.05 | WormFood | where do I change how that acts? |
| 08:44.27 | AZora | http://game.archmageempires.com/phpBB3/ then go to http://game.archmageempires.com/phpBB3/cookietest.php to view cookie /phpBB3 and then go to http://game.archmageempires.com/cookietest.php to view cookie /. The code cookietest.php = print_r($_COOKIE); |
| 08:44.35 | dsockwell | WormFood: find the power manager for your environment |
| 08:44.50 | dsockwell | it should be an icon on your task tray, usually a plug or a battery |
| 08:45.04 | AZora | cookie domain is .archmageempires.com but I have also tried game.archmageempires.com. The cookie path is / |
| 08:45.25 | WormFood | sure dsockwell, however, there are no options for what I want there. |
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| 08:45.54 | dsockwell | hm. |
| 08:46.06 | dsockwell | what desktop environment are you using? |
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| 08:46.12 | WormFood | I want it to not wake up when I open the lid...I want to hit the power button to wake it up |
| 08:46.26 | AZora | can you confirm the behavior for what I'm seeing? e.g. are you also having the same issue with cookie in location A vs location B? |
| 08:46.32 | WormFood | I'm using gnome, but that should have no bearing on it |
| 08:47.28 | dsockwell | different DEs might have different power widgets, and it's probably best to work within the one you have to avoid confusion |
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| 08:48.16 | gnarface | AZora: i don't doubt what you say. i suspect you should try is making a phpbb install that works stand-alone, then trying to add the site to it again to see if that breaks it. if it does you know for sure where the problem lies |
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| 08:48.52 | dsockwell | wormfood: erm. just looked at the gnome power manual, and you're right, it's pretty sparse. |
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| 08:50.33 | WormFood | but that should be something in the hibernate code, which would be independent of gnome |
| 08:51.47 | bolt-work | WormFood: on the contrary, gnome has a power applet which controls these things. it does indeed have a lot to say on what the computer does when it comes to sleep state |
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| 08:52.36 | dsockwell | in typical gnome style, though, it doesn't seem to provide much in the way of customization |
| 08:52.40 | WormFood | but gnome itself does not do the power management, it simply hands off those settings to the software/configuration/whatever that actually does handle the sleep mode |
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| 08:53.07 | gnarface | so what is a really good solution for bandwidth usage monitoring? |
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| 08:53.29 | WormFood | gnarface, it depends on exactly what you need. |
| 08:53.42 | gnarface | it'd be nice to have a solution for time-lapse logging as well as a tool for real time usage during peak hours |
| 08:54.13 | dsockwell | gnarface: have you tried cacti? |
| 08:54.16 | gnarface | i'm vaguely familiar with mrtg and ntop but i was wondering if there are better |
| 08:54.20 | gnarface | hmm cacti |
| 08:54.29 | gnarface | that was the one i was trying to remember |
| 08:54.31 | gnarface | no i haven't |
| 08:54.33 | AZora | gnarface: the apply_sid function that phpBB3 uses allows it to function even without cookies by placing the same data on the URL. This allows seamless operation without cookies but cookies are necessary for my situation and realistically cross directory cookies will need to Just Work next week when the next release goes live. |
| 08:55.06 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.13 | gnarface | AZora: ^^ |
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| 08:55.23 | AZora | I've come up with a work around I think, by passing the sid, then writing a second cookie in the second directory, but that doesn't change that apache/php is fundamentally different |
| 08:56.05 | AZora | cookies should work between folders if the cookie is assigned to / I thought. Domain restrictions would still apply based on pattern matching |
| 08:57.30 | gnarface | AZora: i don't know phpBB and probably could tell you for sure if i did but maybe trying to set the session cookie via url is what is breaking? |
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| 08:57.37 | gnarface | maybe if you disable that it will start to work again? |
| 08:58.05 | AZora | no, they believe in belt and suspenders - use multiple methods for the greatest compatibility |
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| 08:58.41 | WormFood | use multiple methods, so more things will have the opportunity to break ;) |
| 08:58.59 | gnarface | AZora: it might be a problem if its disabled in the php.ini. you should check to make sure that it is not, at least |
| 08:59.09 | AZora | WHen one breaks, the others still work. I'll check php.ini |
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| 08:59.46 | gnarface | AZora: do you have a way to monitor your cookies in real-time, so you can see them being changed in your browser as you test? |
| 09:00.01 | dsockwell | try tamper-data for firefox |
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| 09:00.49 | AZora | I can also show phpinfo if you like. Yes, I used Firebug and FireCookie |
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| 09:02.24 | AZora | i also made sure the cookie and session (not realizing PHP sessions weren't used) options were identical between the two servers |
| 09:02.25 | [gnubie] | waves |
| 09:02.36 | [gnubie] | i need help here with svn.. if i execute the command "svn status", some files and directories are marked with a ? but when i execute the command "svn add * --force", it's says everything is under version control. how am i going to fix this? thank you in advance.. |
| 09:04.52 | jmarsden | [gnubie]: Try adding one of the files concerned (without the --force). Is there anything unusual about it? Like it ends in ~ or .tmp ?? |
| 09:05.26 | [gnubie] | nope |
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| 09:06.02 | jmarsden | If you run file THATFILE where THATFILE is one of these files, what does it output? |
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| 09:07.34 | AZora | should I file a bug report some place? |
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| 09:08.17 | [gnubie] | jmarsden: kindly check http://www.pastie.org/1517403 |
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| 09:09.18 | jmarsden | [gnubie]: OK, so what does file core output? |
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| 09:10.41 | [gnubie] | jmarsden: could you please reload the link? |
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| 09:12.08 | jmarsden | I see a bucnh of commands I didn't as you to type, and no output from file core at all... it should be one line, just put it here in the channel if you are having issues with pastebin ? |
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| 09:12.44 | AZora | afk for a bit :/ |
| 09:12.57 | [gnubie] | jmarsden: that's correct. no output from "svn add --force core" |
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| 09:13.24 | jmarsden | [gnubie]: Please type the command: file core |
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| 09:13.30 | jmarsden | and tell me what it outputs. |
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| 09:14.46 | [gnubie] | jmarsden: core: setgid directory |
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| 09:15.47 | jmarsden | OK. So (a) why would you want to put a setgid directory under version control? Does it need to be setgid in the source tarball??? Sounds like that is a somewhat unusual 'file' to me. |
| 09:17.05 | jmarsden | (b) if you chmod 755 core && svn status core does anything change? |
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| 09:18.49 | [gnubie] | jmarsden: nope |
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| 09:19.21 | jmarsden | are there files in the core directory? Or is it empty? |
| 09:19.38 | [gnubie] | there are sub-directories and files |
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| 09:20.41 | jmarsden | I'm not sure what's happening here.... it feels like some sort of permissions issue somehow... does ls -ld core show it owned by you? |
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| 09:21.23 | [gnubie] | yes, owned by me |
| 09:22.00 | [gnubie] | i setgid'ed them because other users in the group should be able to write to it |
| 09:22.24 | [gnubie] | it works on a similar directory but not for these directories |
| 09:22.43 | jmarsden | Should be able to write your your personal copy of the svn tree?? Why? They should each check out their own working copy, shouldn't they? |
| 09:23.14 | jmarsden | Share the repository, not a single working copy :) |
| 09:23.29 | [gnubie] | jmarsden: yes, they have.. this is a testing copy |
| 09:23.35 | [gnubie] | for the rest.. |
| 09:23.51 | [gnubie] | but it doesn't matter for now.. my concern is on why i'm not able to svn add |
| 09:24.50 | jmarsden | OK. Let's try svn move core core-moved and then see what svn status core-moved and svn add core-moved do ? |
| 09:25.25 | jmarsden | (I'm wondering if somehow svn thinks 'core' is a core dump file and so excludes it somehow) |
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| 09:26.42 | [gnubie] | but it's not only the "core" directory.. there are the browser directory and the sub-directories inside the php directory |
| 09:28.10 | jmarsden | OK... then if you don't want to try that, you can check out a fresh working copy and see if it includes all of these files, and if it does, see what svn status shows right after you've checked it out. But it's 1:30am here, I need to go get some sleep, I think. |
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| 09:39.03 | zrin | hi, is there a way to find corresponding device name for an ata port, like in "ata6.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED"? |
| 09:39.33 | zrin | ... there are 4 controllers on the mainboard 1xIDE and 3x SATA |
| 09:40.10 | zrin | so counting ata ports seems unreliable ... |
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| 09:52.15 | [gnubie] | jmarsden: thanks for your help. |
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| 09:53.28 | [gnubie] | jmarsden: i just checkout the latest revision and copied over the files and directories to the new working copy excluding the .svn directories insider per directory.. now, it should be ok |
| 09:55.17 | trukosh | we have high load average on our nfs server. Can i see which client/server produces the load? |
| 09:55.19 | [gnubie] | now, is there a way to checkout a (parent) directory which contains sub-directories and files but excluding a certain directory? |
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| 10:11.38 | geekie | Hi, I accidentally installed something in /tmp, is it ok to be there or would I have to move it? Just wondering if it would get clensed or something :s |
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| 10:15.23 | mutante | geekie: some distros have "tmpwatch", Debian has "tmpreaper", but unless its installed and setup in crontab, i guess only on next reboot |
| 10:15.45 | mutante | those tools would delete files like ~ "if it has not been touched for 2 weeks" |
| 10:16.02 | mutante | geekie: i would move it though :p |
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| 10:28.17 | macrobat_ | !test |
| 10:28.17 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 10:28.21 | macrobat_ | ty |
| 10:28.32 | geekie | mutante: thanks, guess I'll move it then =[ |
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| 11:01.22 | jelly | geekie: the safe assumptio is to expect /tmp to be cleaned up every reboot, and act accordingly |
| 11:01.54 | geekie | jelly: thanks, I just moved it :) |
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| 11:16.25 | eject_ck | Does anybody know what Blat DoS attack really means ? Google don't know about this ... |
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| 11:20.19 | bolt-work | eject_ck: just google "dos attack". it should give you a general idea |
| 11:21.35 | jelly | Blat! |
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| 11:23.56 | eject_ck | jelly what's this ? |
| 11:24.10 | eject_ck | Blat Attack â These switch result from sending a specially crafted packet to a machine where the source host port is the same as the destination host port. The system attempts to reply to itself, resulting in system lockup.â |
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| 11:24.27 | eshat | anyone using VLC from experimental ? It can't find any video decoder here... |
| 11:24.41 | jelly | *blat* |
| 11:24.47 | eject_ck | HP define each IP packed as DoS when src and dst ports are the same |
| 11:25.28 | eject_ck | My examples of affected software: bind, asterisk, ntp |
| 11:26.38 | eject_ck | all of this was not working with HP V1810-8G switch when their Auto DoS feature was enabled (documentation don't contain description of that attack) |
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| 11:28.08 | cwillu_at_work | I don't suppose anybody has seen such a thing as a parallel dpkg? (I specifically don't mean parallel downloads, I have a local mirror) |
| 11:28.56 | bolt-work | eject_ck: if your hp switch is failing you should probably talk to them... |
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| 11:29.39 | [eXception] | hi |
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| 11:29.45 | [eXception] | whats the -sa option in dput? |
| 11:29.51 | [eXception] | cant find it in man |
| 11:31.42 | [eXception] | option -a unknown :/ |
| 11:32.11 | eject_ck | bolt-work: |
| 11:32.31 | [eXception] | my problem is: hwen I increment the last version number for experimental (fe: .2), dput doesnt upload the orig.tar.gz anymore... |
| 11:32.33 | cwillu_at_work | (hacky approaches are welcome) |
| 11:32.34 | eject_ck | bolt-work: already did it :) they responded that it's designed behavior |
| 11:33.33 | eject_ck | They reffer to 2.x firmware (when currently available is 1.17) ... documentation is lacking information about this particular block (when src and dst IP ports are the same) |
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| 11:34.59 | themill | cwillu_at_work: what are you seeking to gain from a parallel dpkg? What bits do you want to try parallelising and where is the actual bottleneck on your system (dpkg's operations are normally not cpu-bound fwiw) |
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| 11:36.10 | cwillu_at_work | themill, I'm generating system images for embedded use; I spend most of my time blocked in cpu-intensive install scripts for particular packages |
| 11:36.13 | themill | [eXception]: you need to have included the orig.tar.gz in the .changes set to have included in the upload. You should build the package passing -sa to dpkg-buildpackage (or whatever you used); alternatively, you can fix up the .changes file yourself and re-sign it. |
| 11:36.44 | cwillu_at_work | the whole process takes about 50 minutes on a tmpfs |
| 11:36.49 | themill | cwillu_at_work: that's the one bit that probably can't be easily parallelised in any case :( |
| 11:36.51 | cwillu_at_work | I'd really like it if that process took 15 minutes instead |
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| 11:37.10 | cwillu_at_work | themill, it's cpu bound, and only using a single core |
| 11:37.38 | cwillu_at_work | just having that package not block unrelated packages (determined by dependency?) would be a huge win |
| 11:38.10 | cwillu_at_work | I'm already doing things like diverting particular utilities and rerunning them afterwards to help with repeated invocations of expensive tasks, but it only helps so much |
| 11:38.40 | cwillu_at_work | (specifically, some packages actually care about the things they do during install, and aren't satisfied with /bin/true) |
| 11:38.57 | themill | cwillu_at_work: yeah, I see where you're coming from. Perhaps the emdebian people have tools that can help you there. |
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| 11:40.15 | cwillu_at_work | themill, how much do you know about the internals of dpkg's 'database'? |
| 11:40.41 | themill | enough to be dangerous... the emdebian people know more. |
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| 11:40.49 | cwillu_at_work | dangerous sounds good :) |
| 11:41.54 | cwillu_at_work | themill, if I did something like firing off 4 different installs with different packages, against 4 different chroots, and then rsync'd everything together again, further assuming that I kept the packages themselves from clobbering each other by carefully choosing the sets, how easy would it be to munge on /var/lib/dpkg/* by hand? |
| 11:42.25 | cwillu_at_work | I could also see applying patches to the files, no? |
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| 11:47.49 | themill | cwillu_at_work: my first reaction is "that way madness lies". dpkg's databases are all plain text, but it would probably be easier to implement this within apt itself and working with the emdebian and apt people is the way to go on that. |
| 11:47.49 | cwillu_at_work | themill, I see you've run away screaming... |
| 11:47.55 | themill | quite |
| 11:48.49 | cwillu_at_work | in a sense, this sort of thing is diametrically opposed to the idea of having a reliable and stable updating system |
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| 11:50.03 | davividal | hi all. I had a server running Debian Lenny with RAID-1. The first HD stop responding friday, and today the second HD stopped. Is there anything I can do? I can't mount any partition. |
| 11:50.13 | davividal | Also: I have no backup. |
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| 11:51.08 | themill | cwillu_at_work: maintainer scripts that are policy compliant should be instantly parallelisable like this and it would be a useful thing to add, yes. Doing so would possibly expose a few more latent bugs but it might not be that bad... it shouldn't be any worse than the maintainer scripts being run serially but in a different order, which can already happen. |
| 11:51.38 | themill | cwillu_at_work: (by "instantly", I'm conveniently ignoring what would happen with conffile and debconf prompting....) |
| 11:52.36 | cwillu_at_work | nods |
| 11:52.57 | cwillu_at_work | davividal, you're in "stupid recovery tricks" territory now, m'thinks |
| 11:53.05 | cwillu_at_work | davividal, define stopped |
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| 11:53.52 | cwillu_at_work | davividal, and stick a god-damned "rsync -vax / /media/backup" into /etc/cron.daily |
| 11:54.15 | davividal | cwillu_at_work, http://pastebin.com/FPTWqJ7W |
| 11:54.35 | [eXception] | themill: dpkg-buildpackage uses orig.tar.gz and in chages it is also included. But somehow dput ignores it |
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| 11:56.42 | themill | [eXception]: is it listed in the *_i386.changes? (not in the _source.changes) |
| 11:56.49 | themill | (or whatever arch you're building on) |
| 11:56.57 | davividal | cwillu_at_work, the filesystem is ext3, and fdisk -l /dev/sdb works fine. Still I have no access to any partition |
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| 11:57.18 | babilen | davividal: Create an image of the data and work on that. I would try to repair the filesystem with fsck.ext3. You probably have other superblocks you can use if the first one is borked. |
| 11:57.42 | cwillu_at_work | and then make some backups, and keep them up to date every night |
| 11:57.54 | cwillu_at_work | (raid is _not_ a substitute for backups, and neither is fsck) |
| 11:58.00 | babilen | davividal: Use dd to create an image. Then turn of the system and work on copies of the image. |
| 11:58.04 | davividal | babilen, I get the same error for all partitions. I have no superblock working |
| 11:58.15 | davividal | hum... I'll try that |
| 11:58.21 | [eXception] | themill: yes |
| 11:58.25 | Dbug | hi all - noob question here: i have a lenny out of the netinst. and i seek the best way to update rsyslog to version 5.nnn? (using unstable repos is version 4.nn only.. ) could someone please give me a hint on how to do this please? |
| 11:58.32 | [eXception] | but it is not in minibuild.log |
| 11:59.02 | davividal | babilen, but if I use dd, wouldn't that "copy" the filesystem errors, if I'm working with logical FS errors? |
| 11:59.05 | babilen | davividal: You can specify alternative superblock for fsck.ext3 with the "-b" option. |
| 11:59.55 | babilen | davividal: Yes it would. It still gives you an image you can work on without the fear to actually destroy any data. You create an image and work on copies of the image to try different recovery strategies. |
| 12:00.21 | davividal | babilen, thanks a lot. I'll try it now. |
| 12:02.11 | babilen | davividal: I hold my thumbs/Cross my fingers. :) |
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| 12:10.40 | armetiz | Hi there |
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| 12:11.05 | armetiz | Is anyone have heard something on a bug about SNMP & Network Interface speed ? |
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| 12:12.42 | babilen | !dbugs 609226 |
| 12:12.47 | dpkg | #609226:N[snmpd] snmpd: wrong speed-values for network interfaces (); Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:33:01 UTC [] |
| 12:12.57 | babilen | armetiz: Like this one ^^^^ |
| 12:13.08 | armetiz | yes, like this one |
| 12:13.31 | armetiz | this post ending with a question.. |
| 12:13.34 | babilen | armetiz: I would say it is save to say that someone heard about that bug then :) |
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| 12:13.45 | armetiz | "do we have to run SNMPD as root all the time.. " ? |
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| 12:13.55 | armetiz | babilen, yes :p |
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| 12:14.51 | armetiz | But, how can I start SNMPD as root :/ |
| 12:15.04 | armetiz | into /etc/default/snmpd & /etc/init.d/snmpd I don't see USEPID |
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| 12:19.31 | babilen | armetiz: "the security risk of requiring SNMP daemon (and related services) to run as root far out weighs the risk of denial-of-service." -- looks if patching net/core/ethtool.c is the better option. |
| 12:20.21 | armetiz | hum.. thanks babilen.. |
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| 12:20.30 | armetiz | but, I do'nt know where I have to search.. |
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| 12:22.30 | babilen | armetiz: What do you mean? Stephen posted a patch against /net/core/ethtool.c (0fdc100bdc4b7ab61ed632962c76dfe539047296) which you can apply yourself. I am not sure if it is already in some easily obtainable kernel version. But the patch is pretty trivial and you should be able to patch it yourself. |
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| 12:24.56 | armetiz | ok.. |
| 12:25.06 | armetiz | If I change the ethtool.c.. I have to recompile something ? |
| 12:25.09 | babilen | armetiz: I have the feeling that you are confused :) |
| 12:25.17 | armetiz | I am :) |
| 12:25.19 | babilen | armetiz: you have to compile your own kernel, yes |
| 12:25.37 | armetiz | okay.. It's to big operation. |
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| 12:25.45 | armetiz | I have many server in production, and I can do that |
| 12:25.50 | armetiz | I can't |
| 12:25.51 | babilen | armetiz: The basic idea is: 1. Get hold of the kernel source. 2. Make changes to ethtool.c 3. Compile kernel 4. ??? 5. Profit |
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| 12:26.50 | babilen | armetiz: There is not much you can do than except for running snmpd as root. I can not comment on the security implications of that, but Stephen seems to think it is a bad idea. |
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| 12:27.05 | armetiz | Yes.. |
| 12:27.20 | armetiz | that too bad :( |
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| 12:27.31 | babilen | And you are looking at a down time of 1-3 minutes |
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| 12:27.32 | armetiz | But, I'm not using Debian to recompile the Kernel you know |
| 12:27.40 | babilen | why not? |
| 12:27.55 | armetiz | because i'm just like a newbe when you'r talking of recompile kernel |
| 12:28.03 | pfarrell | hi! I'm trying to make a debian package for a library I'm writing. is this the right place to ask questions? dh_auto_build is acting a little funny |
| 12:28.04 | ali3n0 | is smnpd running defaulted to root on Debian? |
| 12:28.11 | armetiz | To me, It's look like a big operation |
| 12:28.13 | pfarrell | dh build and dh_auto_build both work (i.e. compile my library) when called from the shell |
| 12:28.18 | pfarrell | but when I do debuild -uc -us, I get |
| 12:28.25 | pfarrell | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.28 | pfarrell | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.31 | pfarrell | /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' |
| 12:28.33 | pfarrell | any ideas? |
| 12:28.33 | themill | dpkg: tell pfarrell about mentors |
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| 12:28.49 | themill | pfarrell: (also, please use pastebins rather than pasting into the channel) |
| 12:28.54 | pfarrell | themill: fantastic, thank you; sorry for the paste |
| 12:30.08 | babilen | !tell armetiz -about make-kpkg |
| 12:30.24 | babilen | armetiz: Also: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage (make-kpkg is probably easier) |
| 12:30.50 | babilen | pfarrell: paste! |
| 12:30.58 | babilen | pfarrell: Ah, great :) |
| 12:31.01 | armetiz | thanks babilen |
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| 12:32.31 | babilen | armetiz: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html (I stop drowning you in documentation now) |
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| 12:33.04 | armetiz | babilen, it's interesting |
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| 12:34.28 | babilen | armetiz: I'm glad you feel that way. |
| 12:34.49 | armetiz | :p |
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| 12:41.06 | lapsusbrutus | I installed a .deb file to a headless server.. How to install from deb file from ssh? :) |
| 12:41.38 | babilen | lapsusbrutus: What? |
| 12:42.16 | Bastihase | - -{lapsusbrutus}- - dpkg -i *.deb |
| 12:43.02 | lapsusbrutus | Bastihase: great :) Thanks a lot worked as a charm |
| 12:43.02 | babilen | lapsusbrutus: I guess you want something like "dpkg -i name_of_the.deb" but I am not sure what the "I installed a .deb file to a headless server - How to install it (to a headless server)" means. Particularly the first "installed" |
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| 12:44.32 | lapsusbrutus | babilen: ok, Sorry.. I meant I downloaded :D Thanks for helping! Worked well |
| 12:44.56 | babilen | lapsusbrutus: I am curious: Which package was that? |
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| 12:45.42 | greenmang0 | hello guys, my system has 2 HDDs attached, but only one is visible in "fdisk -l" output ... which command can I use to detect another one? |
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| 12:48.05 | lapsusbrutus | babilen: openprinting.ppds :) for ricoh printers Messing around with cups and samba (Works awesomly:D) |
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| 12:48.40 | babilen | ,versions openprinting-ppds |
| 12:48.41 | judd | Package openprinting-ppds on i386 -- lenny: 20080211-2+nmu1; squeeze: 20100630-1; sid: 20100804-1 |
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| 12:49.11 | babilen | lapsusbrutus: You could have just executed "aptitude install openprinting-ppds" -- No need to install it manually. |
| 12:49.34 | lapsusbrutus | lol ok |
| 12:49.52 | greenmang0 | AbsintheSyringe: what command can I use to detect all the HDDs attached to my system? irrespective of whether they are formatted / partitioned or not |
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| 12:50.59 | lapsusbrutus | ok,, how to remove a deb then? dpkg -r open....deb ? |
| 12:51.28 | frikinz | Hi everyone. Yesterday I installed using the rc2. worked like a charm. Resized ntfs partition, install grub in MBR etc.. now the bios tells me some stupid things about corrupt boot loader (kindof virus protection from the '90s). Can I actually use the rc2 install CD to then execute stage2(?) on my harddisk? |
| 12:51.36 | lapsusbrutus | or will aptitude gracefully fix the manually installed deb? |
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| 12:53.00 | AbsintheSyringe | greenmang0, df -T? |
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| 12:54.39 | Nicolax2 | salve |
| 12:55.30 | greenmang0 | AbsintheSyringe: there's actually an HDD attached to system.. but the above command doesn't show it |
| 12:55.49 | abrotman | greenmang0: does the BIOS show it? is it a RAID? |
| 12:56.13 | AbsintheSyringe | greenmang0, maybe it wasn't recognized try dmesg when you're connecting it |
| 12:56.22 | stew | greenmang0: if hal is intalled, you could check hal |
| 12:56.26 | AbsintheSyringe | it'll get listed as /dev/xxx if everything's alright with it |
| 12:57.04 | greenmang0 | stew: what command? |
| 12:57.25 | stew | greenmang0: lshal, or somehting like "hal-find-by-capability --capability storage" |
| 12:57.45 | greenmang0 | abrotman: no RAID, but it's a SCSI HDD, (actually server is at remote place so can't access it physically) |
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| 12:57.51 | stew | greenmang0: or perhaps, "hal-find-by-capability --capability storage | xargs -n1 hal-get-property --key block.device --udi" |
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| 12:58.33 | stew | greenmang0: changing storage to block above would get you partitions as well |
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| 13:00.17 | greenmang0 | stew: /dev/sda /dev/fd0 |
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| 13:02.06 | abrotman | SCSI floppy! |
| 13:03.27 | jelly | like, an early iomega zip? |
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| 13:05.10 | greenmang0 | abrotman: does any BIOS provides an option to enable it or something like that? |
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| 13:07.00 | abrotman | greenmang0: how was the drive added? while running? |
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| 13:08.32 | greenmang0 | abrotman: the thing is... drive was already there with system when it was brought... may be 4 years back... that time i wasn't working for this organization |
| 13:08.59 | abrotman | so perhaps the drive is toast? or the scsi backplane is messed ? |
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| 13:09.04 | greenmang0 | abrotman: whenever i ran fdisk -l .. it showed me only one 73GB drive.. |
| 13:09.19 | abrotman | and you're sure it's not hardware raid? |
| 13:09.27 | greenmang0 | abrotman: so I was under the impression that system has only one drive... |
| 13:09.44 | abrotman | greenmang0: if it's a hardware RAID1 .. linux only sees one drive |
| 13:09.50 | greenmang0 | abrotman: it isn't ... cause i myself installed debian over it |
| 13:10.02 | greenmang0 | abrotman: yes, i know that |
| 13:10.06 | abrotman | greenmang0: put `lspci -nn` in a pastebin |
| 13:11.34 | greenmang0 | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/106212/ |
| 13:12.03 | abrotman | greenmang0: and you're 100% sure that the LSI MegaRaid isn't setup for RAID1? |
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| 13:13.29 | vy | Hi! I would like to freeze/halt the network traffic on a particular interface. For this purpose, I'm trying to use tc, but it doesn't accept "rate 0" option. Any ideas/suggestions? |
| 13:14.24 | greenmang0 | abrotman: how can i check that? |
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| 13:14.42 | abrotman | greenmang0: not sure if the megaraid driver has software in linux to manage/check |
| 13:15.08 | greenmang0 | abrotman: it's RAID card right? |
| 13:15.17 | abrotman | greenmang0: look at your lspci output |
| 13:15.44 | greenmang0 | abrotman: 09:01.0 RAID bus controller [0104]: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID [1000:1960] (rev 01) |
| 13:16.18 | abrotman | greenmang0: does the system have a console? or only ssh ? |
| 13:16.33 | greenmang0 | abrotman: only ssh... |
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| 13:16.58 | abrotman | greenmang0: do you have /proc/megaraid/ ? |
| 13:17.25 | greenmang0 | abrotman: nope |
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| 13:18.20 | abrotman | greenmang0: if you poke around on the LSI website, there is a "MegaCLI" program |
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| 13:18.40 | abrotman | you can try that to poke the megaraid bios |
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| 13:20.11 | greenmang0 | abrotman: ok... have one question... what if i remove the HDD which shows up in "fdisk -l" and kept the one which is invisible and boot the system... ? so if RAID 1 is configured... system should boot.. right? |
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| 13:21.14 | abrotman | greenmang0: ideally |
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| 13:21.53 | greenmang0 | abrotman: ok, then i will ask somebody to do that to confirm RAID |
| 13:22.00 | abrotman | but if you're going to do that .. why not just have them check the RAID bios? :) |
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| 13:23.00 | abrotman | greenmang0: or just have them look at the lights on the drives .. if they're in a RAID1 .. they'll both light up |
| 13:23.32 | greenmang0 | abrotman: i actually did.. i asked them to check bios but he said.. no bios doesn't show any hdd... he's not that expert i guess... |
| 13:24.02 | abrotman | show any? |
| 13:24.12 | abrotman | there is more than one SCSI BIOS .. you have more than one controller |
| 13:24.23 | funyun | hi. i have a custom kernel on my dedicated server. due to that, i can't do some things i want to like run vmware or virtual box. is it possible to install a proper debian kernel? and if so, can anyone help me with that? |
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| 13:24.34 | greenmang0 | abrotman: ok... i will have it checked again |
| 13:24.53 | abrotman | funyun: apt-cache search linux-image |
| 13:25.04 | abrotman | funyun: .. oh, you might want to ask them |
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| 13:25.18 | greenmang0 | abrotman: the guy said no hard disk is visible in BIOS ... so I came up with "remove one hdd and boot" option |
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| 13:26.12 | abrotman | greenmang0: okay .. you're going to have at least 1) the main BIOS 2) the LSI Fusion-MPT BIOS 3) MegaRAID BIOS .. possibly also a BIOS for your network cards ... |
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| 13:29.30 | funyun | abrotman: how exactly do i know which one of these images to chose? i'm guessing linux-image-2.6-amd64 but i want to be sure so i don't screw anything up. here's the server i have http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/eg_amd.xml |
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| 13:30.35 | abrotman | funyun: it's really about whether the system will boot with that kernel .. |
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| 13:31.06 | abrotman | funyun: that package name is fine .. but the question is whether the system will actually boot |
| 13:31.42 | funyun | abrotman: oh i see. so i should ask them whether or not it will boot? or is there another way to find out? |
| 13:32.10 | chill | 4 |
| 13:32.18 | abrotman | funyun: you could install it, and just find out :) |
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| 13:33.14 | abrotman | thinks a hex-core seems a bit overkill ... |
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| 13:33.17 | funyun | abrotman: worst case senerio if i do that? will i lose all my data, or can i just have them replace the custom kernel? |
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| 13:33.45 | abrotman | funyun: the original should be in the bootloader still .. they should just be able to boot it, then remove the non-working one |
| 13:34.10 | funyun | abrotman: alright, i'll give it a try. thanks for your help :) |
| 13:34.30 | djura-san | hi o/ |
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| 13:35.40 | Bartzy | Hi |
| 13:35.40 | Bartzy | How can I get an HDD serial number from shell ? |
| 13:35.40 | Bartzy | I want to know the serial number of /dev/sdf |
| 13:35.40 | Bartzy | But hdparm -i /dev/sdf returns: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument |
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| 13:36.11 | g105b | Can someone guide me how to set up SSH using VSFTPD for a single user, jailing into the /var/www directory? |
| 13:36.28 | nevyn | Bar_: Smartctl should be able to tell you... |
| 13:36.39 | nevyn | and it's in /sys somewhere as well |
| 13:37.27 | funyun | abrotman: just to be clear. all i do is aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64? because i did that and it's done already. just seemed like this would be a lot more complicated than that? |
| 13:38.08 | kwork | kick for one line pastE? |
| 13:39.46 | babilen | kwork: What do you mean? |
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| 13:42.26 | kwork | * debhelper has kicked Bartzy from #debian (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste) |
| 13:42.41 | kwork | but looking at timestamp, maybe he indeed "flooded" |
| 13:42.46 | kwork | so nevermind |
| 13:43.24 | abrotman | funyun: should install two packages |
| 13:43.44 | abrotman | kwork: he may have been lagging |
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| 13:45.56 | superlinux | hi. how can I read an ashx file? from google it says it's a shockwave file |
| 13:46.11 | funyun | abrotman: two packages? so like linux-image-2.6-amd64 and linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64 ?? |
| 13:46.30 | abrotman | funyun: more like linux-image-2.6-amd64 and linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 |
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| 13:46.55 | abrotman | i wouldn't worry about installing headers until you have a system that works |
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| 13:48.07 | funyun | abrotman: both seem to be installed. now do i reboot? or is it ready without reboot? |
| 13:48.21 | abrotman | funyun: you have to check your bootloader to see what the default is |
| 13:48.35 | funyun | abrotman: how do i do that? |
| 13:51.11 | funyun | abrotman: i've tried dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep GRUB and dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep LILO. neither produce results :( |
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| 13:55.18 | edgars | yo |
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| 13:55.46 | edgars | how can i reinstall base packages which contains ps, netstat, passwd? :) |
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| 13:58.07 | cwillu_at_work | edgars, dpkg-query -S `which ps` will tell you which package it's in, and then you can just do aptitude reinstall whatever |
| 13:58.27 | daemonkeeper | Also, one might find apt-file helpful for such tasks. |
| 13:59.20 | funyun | can anyone help me with abrotman's comment "you have to check your bootloader to see what the default is" |
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| 14:03.51 | debdog | funyun: the installer *should* run the update on the bootloader automatically. but you may want to check if it is set up correctly by looking at the bootloaders config |
| 14:04.10 | funyun | debdog: how do i do that? |
| 14:04.30 | debdog | which one are you using? |
| 14:04.36 | debdog | lilo, grub, grub2? |
| 14:04.58 | funyun | debdog: i'm not sure, i've tried dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep GRUB and dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep LILO. neither produce results |
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| 14:05.27 | debdog | but basicaly, if you haven't touch that stuff it *should* work out of the box. have you tried to reboot and see if the new kernel is running? |
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| 14:05.48 | yann2 | hello! wanted to ask: how stable is btrfs considered in upcoming debian version (interested in the snapshots)? |
| 14:05.57 | funyun | debdog: no, i didn't want to risk screwing anything up. should i try now? |
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| 14:06.37 | daemonkeeper | yann2: The question is not "how stable is btrfs in Debian" but "how stable is btrfs at all". In any case the answer is: don't use it for data you really do care for. |
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| 14:07.03 | abrotman | funyun: oh, sorry |
| 14:07.08 | funyun | abrotman: np |
| 14:07.14 | yann2 | daemonkeeper, its for backups, so not absolutely critical but well :) |
| 14:07.28 | daemonkeeper | until you really need them you mean? ;) |
| 14:07.45 | jelly | yann2: if you think backups are not absolutely critical, I don't want to be your customer or employee |
| 14:07.45 | debdog | oh, dedicated server... I am out, funyun ;) |
| 14:07.54 | yann2 | well I mean as long as I can know when they're broken :) |
| 14:07.55 | jelly | (or employer) |
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| 14:08.14 | funyun | debdog: ?? |
| 14:08.45 | yann2 | jelly, if I can know when they're broken it's good enough for me... am just testing a new backup platform for now |
| 14:09.14 | daemonkeeper | Don't use btrfs. |
| 14:09.23 | daemonkeeper | Use xfs, ext, whatever you want. |
| 14:09.40 | yann2 | ok |
| 14:09.44 | yann2 | thanks |
| 14:09.45 | debdog | you are doing this on a server where you don't have hardware access? I'll better keep my mouth shut because I never did such a thing |
| 14:10.09 | abrotman | funyun: is it grub or grub2 ? |
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| 14:10.53 | funyun | abrotman: i'm not sure how to check. i've tried dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep GRUB and dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep LILO. neither produce results |
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| 14:11.08 | abrotman | eh .. no |
| 14:12.21 | funyun | abrotman: is there another way to check? i got those lines from google |
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| 14:12.42 | abrotman | funyun: dpkg -l "*grub*" .. what does it say |
| 14:13.32 | funyun | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/s6PnCg6f |
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| 14:46.08 | dogs1985 | i want to ask. |
| 14:46.18 | dogs1985 | i using rhythmbox. |
| 14:46.26 | dogs1985 | stream online radio. |
| 14:46.37 | dogs1985 | sometime my line not stable. |
| 14:47.02 | dogs1985 | cause the rhythmbox cpu get high and hang. |
| 14:47.14 | dogs1985 | how to solve this problem? |
| 14:48.29 | Shadur | Hmm... Is it possible to grow a mounted partition without interrupting the system? |
| 14:48.36 | yalu | Shadur: depends on the FS |
| 14:48.50 | yalu | ext3: possible, reiserfs: possible, jfs or xfs: you HAVE to |
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| 14:49.07 | yalu | I still think it's preferable to resize ext3 offline though |
| 14:49.23 | yalu | there seem to be more precautions like fsck's that you cannot do on a mounted FS |
| 14:50.02 | babilen | Shadur: "resize2fs" is what you are looking for. |
| 14:50.10 | yalu | I have a burning Q about recompiling packages. I want it to run make with -j4 . how? some env variable? |
| 14:50.11 | babilen | Shadur: (for ext* FS) |
| 14:50.48 | Shadur | yalu: I've got ext3 |
| 14:53.06 | joltcan | yalu: cant you just add -j4 on the command line? |
| 14:54.05 | joltcan | yalu: Or else edit the Makefile and put it in under CFLAGS? |
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| 14:54.57 | joltcan | yalu: or not. I'm not sure about the last one, that is probably wrong |
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| 14:57.43 | babilen | yalu: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html (DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS / parallel) |
| 14:58.12 | mutante | let's have "stinky pete" as 8.0 :) |
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| 14:58.51 | dvs | mutante: that's Toy Story 2 |
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| 14:59.28 | mutante | dvs: "pretty sure they've got enough namse left.. if not , pixar can add them some more in the next Toy Story :)" |
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| 15:01.06 | david234 | I setup a config script for my debian package, and am testing it. On first run, t asks for the info, but on second run it remembers my answer. How can I ask it to rerun each time ? |
| 15:01.08 | comodi | hi to all |
| 15:01.34 | comodi | is there an alternative to logzilla as syslog-ng web frontend? |
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| 15:03.40 | stew | david234: dpkg-reconfigure packagename? |
| 15:04.07 | david234 | ok, I am running ./config directly for development testing. |
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| 15:05.39 | dvs | david234: copy the config file again? |
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| 15:07.50 | david234 | hmm, ok, I guess I could unset the values. Where can I find a full list of the db_ functions for debconf ? |
| 15:08.21 | magesing | Hi everyone, I'm having sound issues. When I try to start alsamixer I get: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory. What's going on? How do I fix it? |
| 15:08.26 | stew | david234: try man 7 debconf-devel |
| 15:09.08 | david234 | I tried that earlier with no luck, I must be missing the debconf doc package or something |
| 15:09.19 | magesing | fyi my soundcard is: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Ibex Peak High Definition Audio (rev 05) |
| 15:09.23 | david234 | installing now |
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| 15:10.28 | manhunter | which medium is better for debian installation ? debian live cd or the debian installer? |
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| 15:12.14 | magesing | manhunter: if you have a good internet connection handy, the installer is better because you will be getting up to date packages immediately. If you need to be able to run the install offline the live cd is better. Having the live CD around can be handy in situations where you break your bootloader and need to boot from something else to muck around and fix it. |
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| 15:14.46 | manhunter | magesing, how did you install ? |
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| 15:14.54 | manhunter | magesing, bandwidth is poor here |
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| 15:15.26 | yalu | babilen: thank you |
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| 15:16.13 | magesing | manhunter: if you have to download the livecd anyway, the total amount you will download will be less from a minimal install image (you only download the packages you need) |
| 15:16.36 | magesing | manhunter: I always download the minimal install image and just install the packages I need |
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| 15:16.44 | sylar | hi |
| 15:16.48 | rue_house | why the **** does debian use dhclient when its unable to dynamically read /etc/hostname when pulling a dhcp lease? if you google for 'dhclient.conf host-name etc hostname' you find YEARS of people hitting their head on this issue, dhcleint can ONLY sumbit HARD CODED host names, its stupid </fire> |
| 15:16.57 | sylar | what do I do that my spell check would be bertter |
| 15:17.00 | sylar | ? |
| 15:17.11 | sylar | now it think that providable is an error |
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| 15:17.47 | DelphiWorld | hello guys |
| 15:17.56 | DelphiWorld | i have error using debootstrap |
| 15:17.57 | DelphiWorld | debootstrap -arch i686 lenny /mnt/ http://ftp.debian.org/debian |
| 15:18.04 | DelphiWorld | log say: /usr/sbin/debootstrap: line 418: .: /mnt/: is a directory |
| 15:18.09 | boudiccas | DelphiWorld, i'm not a guy but i'll still say hello to you |
| 15:18.23 | DelphiWorld | boudiccas: :) |
| 15:18.28 | DelphiWorld | any help is welcome |
| 15:18.58 | stew | rue_house: I doubt many people need that **** feature. If they do, there are other **** dhcp clients in debian you could try instead. Do you know of other **** dhcp clients that implement this **** feature? |
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| 15:19.10 | stew | rue_house: or perhaps you could work up a patch to dhclient that had this **** feature? |
| 15:19.25 | rue_house | stew, then why are there so many google entires of people trying to work it out? |
| 15:19.29 | manhunter | why did debhelper set channel limit to 1042 ? and how ? |
| 15:19.40 | stew | rue_house: why wouldn't it? |
| 15:20.08 | DelphiWorld | debhelper: debootstrap |
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| 15:20.23 | rue_house | "1000's of people have an issue with this, but its not a problem"? |
| 15:20.33 | rue_house | sounds like denial |
| 15:20.43 | stew | rue_house: is there a patch for this? |
| 15:20.44 | DelphiWorld | dpkg: debootstrap |
| 15:20.44 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 15:20.55 | stew | manhunter: we have debhelper set a channel limit slightly above how many peoplea re in the channel from time to time on order to prevent join flooding (which is probably somewhat pointless since we have +L set) |
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| 15:21.22 | rue_house | stew, my suggestion is that debian should not subscribe to dhclient install by default, use soemthing like pump that is modern and works |
| 15:21.25 | stew | manhunter: its doing it by setting +l you might see http://http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 15:22.14 | manhunter | stew, if more people are here than 1024 then how would debhelper remove nicks to make this limit to 1024 ? |
| 15:22.19 | macrobat_ | DelphiWorld: give it an own partition? |
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| 15:22.43 | DelphiWorld | macrobat_: what's the diference with a mountpoint? |
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| 15:23.03 | stew | rue_house: is pump really more modern? we still have the same upstream version of pump that was uploaded to debian in 2005 |
| 15:23.54 | stew | rue_house: and in that timp, the isc dhcp client has had several new major releases |
| 15:23.58 | stew | ^timp^time |
| 15:24.01 | rue_house | apparently is it, cause it understands the existance of /etc/hostname, /bin/hostname, or $HOSTNAME which have been aorund... forever? |
| 15:24.35 | stew | rue_house: this is just one signle feature of many. i realize it is one feature that you want, but it doesn't seem to be commonly sought out |
| 15:24.37 | rue_house | stew, but they still dont understand any of the above, sad |
| 15:24.50 | rue_house | thats my point, its NOT JUST ME |
| 15:24.53 | stew | rue_house: just "aptitude install pump" if you wish to use that |
| 15:24.59 | rue_house | this is a problem for thousands of people |
| 15:25.02 | stew | that's not many |
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| 15:25.21 | stew | rue_house: is there a bug filed about this? |
| 15:25.21 | rue_house | how about if they all came here and complained about it on the same day? |
| 15:25.31 | badbyte | hi people, |
| 15:25.37 | stew | rue_house: this isn't a complaint channel |
| 15:25.43 | rue_house | I think people just give up |
| 15:25.44 | stew | rue_house: you should file a bug if one doesn't already exist |
| 15:25.48 | stew | that's fine too |
| 15:25.51 | badbyte | i wanted to know how to change the apt sources list file through commands |
| 15:26.21 | DelphiWorld | macrobat_: got it, debootstrap lenny /mnt |
| 15:26.27 | badbyte | is there a list where public debian servers are? |
| 15:26.30 | macrobat_ | badbyte: why not use an editor? |
| 15:27.01 | macrobat_ | !mirrors |
| 15:27.01 | dpkg | hmm... debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 15:27.13 | badbyte | ah thanks |
| 15:27.15 | badbyte | :) |
| 15:27.59 | rue_house | stew, I spent 3 days beating my head against my bind and dhcpd config before I realized that all the machine I have using pump work just fine, another problem with dhclient is that if the network is down for a while it just gives up trying to get leases |
| 15:28.24 | DelphiWorld | badbyte: fix your byte? |
| 15:28.41 | badbyte | DelphiWorld:? |
| 15:28.45 | stew | rue_house: http://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/news |
| 15:28.59 | stew | rue_house: these sound like upstream bugs, this is where you would report upstream bugs |
| 15:29.00 | magesing | lspci -k does not list a driver in use for my: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Ibex Peak High Definition Audio (rev 05). Can I get this soundcard workign with debian? Do I have to build a custom kernel to do it? |
| 15:29.02 | DelphiWorld | badbyte: bad byte |
| 15:29.10 | DelphiWorld | :D |
| 15:29.12 | stew | rue_house: you can also then report the bug to the debian bts and mark the bug as forwarded |
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| 15:29.42 | rue_house | debian drops programs from its package repository for lesser reasons than what I have said about dhclient |
| 15:29.44 | badbyte | DelphiWorld:ah u like that nickname eh |
| 15:29.48 | dvs | magesing: what does "lspci -nn" say? |
| 15:30.07 | pzn | suppose I have a svn project trunk/folderA, and I want to make folderA head revision available via http to anyone. is there any package that can help me to do this? |
| 15:30.16 | rue_house | :) have to go to work! |
| 15:30.20 | AZora | I believe I have figured out the PHP +Cookie issue but I'm not sure and maybe someone knows the answer as being a config issue, but I doubt it. The same code works on another server (CentOS crap) with the same configuration and functions fine. PHP5.3.3 in testing with Susohin 0.9.9.1 is unable to read cookies in different directories properly. I have 6 URL for the curious, but I prefer private message. I also have phpinfo() available for b |
| 15:31.05 | stew | rue_house: it would be out of character for debian to switch from a dhcp client that is more widely used and under active support and development to one which has been dead upstream for 5 or 6 years |
| 15:31.16 | stew | rue_house: especially for one feature that doesn't seem to be under that much demand |
| 15:31.34 | rue_house | last point is where I think your wrong |
| 15:31.43 | stew | rue_house: which point? |
| 15:31.58 | rue_house | "nobody wants that feature" |
| 15:32.09 | stew | rue_house: which bug# are you talking about? |
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| 15:32.22 | stew | and i don't think i said that anyway |
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| 15:33.04 | badbyte | reconfiguring the sources.list |
| 15:33.10 | badbyte | didnt work well |
| 15:33.13 | badbyte | i need help |
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| 15:33.15 | rue_house | I shoudl write a patch for dhclient that by default sends the hostname and needs a paramiter added to the conf to not send it |
| 15:33.49 | stew | rue_house: which dhclient are you using? from which package? |
| 15:33.59 | magesing | dvs: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Ibex Peak High Definition Audio [8086:3b56] (rev 05) |
| 15:34.37 | rue_house | out of curioslty,HOW MANY people need to be inconvienienced by a problem to make it worth dealing with? |
| 15:34.52 | pipeline | rue_house: exactly one |
| 15:34.52 | rue_house | stew, default install of stable |
| 15:34.58 | abrotman | funyun: did you get it figured out? |
| 15:35.02 | pipeline | rue_house: the original author :D |
| 15:35.09 | rue_house | heh :) |
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| 15:36.06 | stew | rue_house: is there a bug filed about this? |
| 15:36.27 | rue_house | I dont know I have to go to work |
| 15:36.32 | stew | rue_house: note that debian is a volunteer organization, we don't always get around to scratching other peoples' itches |
| 15:36.40 | stew | rue_house: when there are no bugs filed about it, even less chance |
| 15:37.05 | DelphiWorld | :P |
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| 15:37.08 | DelphiWorld | is debootstraping |
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| 15:37.10 | abrotman | AZora: did you name the domain correctly for the cookies? I vaguely recall an issue with this years ago |
| 15:37.11 | DelphiWorld | !thanks! |
| 15:37.11 | dpkg | DelphiWorld: no problem |
| 15:37.16 | rue_house | the replace ment of gcalctool sucks by the way :) |
| 15:37.24 | rue_house | I want to re-release the old version |
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| 15:37.46 | AZora | .archmageempires.com cookie path of / |
| 15:38.10 | stew | rue_house: if there are bugs with the new version, please file them |
| 15:38.12 | AZora | the same cookies are available between / and /game but /phpBB3 has its own cookie |
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| 15:38.55 | braunkraut | hey there |
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| 15:39.59 | braunkraut | I have an issue where irrd will only listen on tcp6 and doesn't accept ipv4 connections from localhost. /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only is set to 0, any clue how I could change that behavior? |
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| 15:40.33 | dvs | curses his wireless card |
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| 15:41.21 | magesing | according to http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/SND_HDA_INTEL.html my Intel Corporation Ibex Peak High Definition Audio [8086:3b56] (rev 05) |
| 15:41.27 | magesing | should be supported |
| 15:41.48 | magesing | with my kernel version... How can I check if this module is built? |
| 15:41.57 | stew | judd: pciid 8086:3b56 |
| 15:41.59 | judd | [8086:3b56] is '5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio' from 'Intel Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:3b56 |
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| 15:42.19 | stew | magesing: so not in stable, but would be in squeeze or with a squeeze kernel backported to stable |
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| 15:43.27 | magesing | stew: O.K. given that I curently have a stable system... what's the best way to install the backported kernel? |
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| 15:43.41 | Tecy | Does anyone know how to assign a ipv6 range to 1 interface? |
| 15:44.49 | magesing | stew: I got the info from dpkg... following instructions from backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 15:45.13 | jhutchins_lt | emu10k1 might work for that intel chipset. |
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| 15:47.57 | magesing | stew: What is the package name for the squeeze kernel you told me about? |
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| 15:48.33 | stew | magesing: linux-image-2.6-$arch where $arch is something like amd64 or i386 |
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| 15:49.54 | magesing | stew: do I need linux-modules-2.6-$arch as well? |
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| 15:51.03 | dvs | magesing: no |
| 15:51.41 | magesing | dvs: thanks |
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| 15:52.06 | dvs | np |
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| 16:16.39 | SlimG | I've got a exim4 mta that I'd like to connect to a smtp smarthost that requires TLS(STARTTLS)+login, port 587, username and password. does anyone know of a guide for this? I'm drowning in huge manuals |
| 16:16.59 | SlimG | I'm not interested in receiving, just sending |
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| 16:17.59 | petemc | SlimG: there are plenty of guides for exim and gmail, which is the same as you want to do |
| 16:18.11 | edgars | ghrrrr |
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| 16:18.29 | edgars | why i cant rm /sbin/ifconfig as root? |
| 16:18.35 | edgars | permission denied |
| 16:18.55 | edgars | ifconfig is owned by nonexistend uid and gid |
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| 16:19.13 | Mad7Scientst | How did it get there? |
| 16:19.35 | edgars | thats on one strange haxored box |
| 16:20.12 | Mad7Scientst | edgars, it was hacked? |
| 16:20.22 | Mad7Scientst | the file is probably immutable |
| 16:20.29 | edgars | i supose so |
| 16:20.34 | Mad7Scientst | (like "Read Only" in Windows |
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| 16:20.50 | edgars | previous admin dont want to talk about it :> |
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| 16:23.17 | jhutchins_lt | SlimG: This is probably more inbound oriented, but may answer your questions: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/comics/sforth.html |
| 16:23.22 | jhutchins_lt | Arggh! |
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| 16:23.36 | jhutchins_lt | SlimG: Sorry, this: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/280/HowTo_Setup_Basic_SMTP_AUTH_in_Exim4 |
| 16:24.13 | edgars | Mad7Scientst: and how to remove that shit? |
| 16:24.16 | edgars | :> |
| 16:25.00 | edgars | chattr, ok :) |
| 16:25.09 | guzu | edgars, http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/make-your-files-immutable-which-even.html |
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| 16:30.20 | DelphiWorld | hello guys |
| 16:30.21 | DelphiWorld | :-) |
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| 16:30.38 | DelphiWorld | anyone know any debian based image that can run in alix boards? |
| 16:30.40 | DelphiWorld | !alix |
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| 16:30.54 | DelphiWorld | dpkg: alix |
| 16:30.55 | dpkg | DelphiWorld: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 16:31.30 | DelphiWorld | dpkg: alix is a embedded board that can run linux nicely. to run debian into it, try out http://martin.balint.cz/post/debian-etch-on-alix-2c3-board/ |
| 16:31.31 | dpkg | okay, DelphiWorld |
| 16:32.24 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: you can msg the bot .. please don't fill the both with useless old info |
| 16:32.36 | abrotman | no one should be installing etch |
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| 16:33.02 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: but this can by usefull for everyone, if no etch, lenny. |
| 16:33.09 | abrotman | then find a howto for lenny |
| 16:33.20 | frikinz | Why with a livecd. I used the installer to install to my card |
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| 16:33.28 | doubleukay | hi guys, in my lenny chroot I am unable to ls japanese unicode filenames. however when I am outside the chroot, I can. what do I need to install inside the chroot to support this? |
| 16:33.43 | doubleukay | the filenames appear as question marks "??????" |
| 16:33.55 | DelphiWorld | frikinz: can i PM you if you don't mind? |
| 16:34.00 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: sory, my fault. |
| 16:34.12 | frikinz | DelphiWorld: yes |
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| 16:35.32 | doubleukay | hm ok, apparently installing the locales packages and configuring it worked. |
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| 16:37.52 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: sory for this question, how do i know my debian release? |
| 16:38.04 | abrotman | !version |
| 16:38.04 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
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| 16:39.28 | DelphiWorld | thanks abrotman |
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| 16:40.45 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: 5.0.8 is this good? |
| 16:41.03 | abrotman | that's the current version of Debian stable, AKA Lenny |
| 16:41.32 | DelphiWorld | awesome, abrotman |
| 16:41.46 | stew | its the best debian yet! (until saturday or so) |
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| 16:42.47 | DelphiWorld | abrotman, next week i will try runing the kernel through brail display |
| 16:42.56 | abrotman | braile? |
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| 16:43.23 | zahna | which distro has more packages: debian or ubuntu? not trolling, just curious. |
| 16:43.28 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: isualy is called "brail" here, a writing method for blind users |
| 16:43.32 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: i am blind :-P |
| 16:44.04 | DelphiWorld | zahna: ok, each distro have much security improvemant? |
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| 16:45.25 | zahna | DelphiWorld: compared to what? |
| 16:45.42 | DelphiWorld | zahna: i prefer debian |
| 16:45.48 | stew | zahna: here are the numbers of packages in debian: http://ftp-master.debian.org/pkg-nums i don't know about ubuntu |
| 16:45.52 | abrotman | zahna: you can look yourself |
| 16:46.19 | Arrowmaster | debian provides security updates for all packages though, not just a limited set |
| 16:46.36 | abrotman | zahna: you could grab the Packages.gz for whatever arch you want to check as a start |
| 16:46.48 | abrotman | <dpkg> Debian Distro Stats on sid... 30654 packages, 2207 maintainers, 99647 MB installed size, 37341 MB compressed size. |
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| 16:47.14 | DelphiWorld | lol, mtn... african mobile carrier :-) |
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| 16:50.23 | DelphiWorld | curiou why debhelper limit the channel |
| 16:50.36 | petemc | prevent join floods |
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| 16:52.06 | jelly | hm, 1030 users |
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| 16:52.38 | dokma | Is there a way to tell if some IP address is blocked on my Debian machine? |
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| 16:53.34 | dokma | Can I somehow simulate a connection from some IP? |
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| 16:55.11 | dokma | the problem in question is with smtp communication |
| 16:55.21 | dokma | a server fails to send email to my dedicated box |
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| 16:55.34 | petemc | exim can simulate a connection from an ip with exim -bh 1.2.3.4 |
| 16:55.48 | dokma | petemc: aaahhh sounds nice |
| 16:55.58 | petemc | but thats not going to test whether that remote machine can get your mx or a record |
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| 17:00.20 | zumbi | abrotman: where do you get those stats from? |
| 17:00.24 | magesing | Hi everyone. I got my sound playback working in alsa, but I am having trobule figuring out the proper settings to record. how do I know which input source in alsamixer is the right one? |
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| 17:01.32 | guzu | i have an old computer. it can only boot from first 8gb of hard disk space. i have a 1 gb /boot partition from which the squeeze is booting. i also have one fedora core 5 partition but it's beyond the 8gb limit. i copy the /boot from fedora to a directory in squeeze's /boot. if a change by hand grub.cfg, i can boot fedora, but at first dpkg reconfigure the changes are lost. the problem is squeeze can not startx. how can i "copy" the changes from grub.cfg to some |
| 17:01.32 | guzu | *default* file so that the next reconfigure will not mess the grub.cfg again? |
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| 17:02.27 | abrotman | zumbi: i dont' know where to get them from ubuntu, but they came from a channel bot here |
| 17:02.42 | zumbi | abrotman: for debian, what do you ask dpkg? |
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| 17:03.15 | zumbi | guzu: maybe startx does not start in squeeze because you need to have default /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 17:03.16 | stew | zumbi: you can get more up to date stats here: http://ftp-master.debian.org/pkg-nums |
| 17:03.36 | guzu | zumbi, no, it's an xorg improvement :) |
| 17:04.19 | zumbi | guzu: lots of X stuff has moved to kernel and autodetection has been improved, i think there is a comment on release notes |
| 17:04.31 | guzu | right |
| 17:05.04 | zumbi | stew: those stats do not show number of debian developers and so on.. i think it might be good info for a speech i need to do next week |
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| 17:09.09 | stew | zumbi: what do you mean by "number of debian developers"? |
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| 17:10.06 | stew | zumbi: in the database we have 1067 keys in the developer keyrings, and 132 DMs |
| 17:10.25 | stew | this is different than "the number of maintainers" though. this is the number of uploaders |
| 17:10.49 | stew | and not really number of uploaders but "possible uploaders" |
| 17:11.03 | jhutchins_lt | zumbi: grub and X really don't have anything to do with each other. |
| 17:11.16 | zumbi | < abrotman> <dpkg> Debian Distro Stats on sid... 30654 packages, 2207 maintainers, 99647 MB installed size, 37341 MB compressed size. |
| 17:11.36 | jhutchins_lt | zumbi: Also, the fact that grub is on the mbr should be all that the system needs in the first 8G. |
| 17:11.38 | zumbi | stew: 2207 maintainers according to abrotman |
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| 17:11.48 | abrotman | argh .. highlight! :( |
| 17:11.51 | abrotman | hehe |
| 17:11.53 | stew | zumbi: that's for one arch and for one release |
| 17:11.57 | jhutchins_lt | zumbi: Sorry, that was meant for guzu |
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| 17:12.14 | zumbi | jhutchins_lt: sure :) |
| 17:12.37 | stew | zumbi: we currently have 3441 project wide, but that's also inaccurate. it would count me twice, for instance (since i'm in there with two different email addresses) |
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| 17:12.49 | guzu | jhujhiti, correct, but being unable to start a gui, i was wondering how can i copy from one text file and paste into another |
| 17:12.50 | stew | zumbi: and would count maintainer groups |
| 17:13.09 | guzu | jhujhiti, sorry, that was for jhutchins :) |
| 17:13.28 | guzu | and not even jhutchins , but jhutchins_lt ! |
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| 17:15.11 | jhutchins_lt | guzu: gpm? Open both files in vi? |
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| 17:15.40 | dutchfish | hi, where can i find debian squeeze jigdo files? |
| 17:16.00 | guzu | jhutchins_lt, thank you, i'll try gpm |
| 17:16.22 | stew | dutchfish: http://debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 17:16.36 | guzu | wishes he knew emacs .. |
| 17:16.52 | zumbi | dutchfish: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ too |
| 17:17.13 | babilen | guzu: learn it! /me recommends "vimtutor" ;) |
| 17:17.42 | dutchfish | ah thanks all. Is current weekly snapshot of Debian testing th emost recent (with latest eglibc updates)? |
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| 17:20.41 | dutchfish | i mean the one from jan 29th, see http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/eglibc.html |
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| 17:22.06 | guzu | babilen, thank you |
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| 17:23.10 | stew | dutchfish: it does (and you could check this yourself by just looking at the .jigdo file) |
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| 17:23.32 | dutchfish | stew: thank you very much. great ! |
| 17:23.51 | stew | dutchfish: (jigdo files are basically just gzipped lists of packages) |
| 17:24.00 | stew | Debian:pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6_2.11.2-10_i386.deb is in one line |
| 17:24.16 | dutchfish | stew: ok, got it |
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| 17:25.02 | eshat | Hi all... will we (unstable users) be flooded with new package versions right after squeeze release ? |
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| 17:25.27 | stew | eshat: probably, nowhere near like what testing users will experience though |
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| 17:25.50 | zahna | stew: why will testing users be flooded? |
| 17:25.52 | eshat | stew: true, didn't think about that :D |
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| 17:26.05 | stew | eshat: since uploads to unstable depends on people preparing new uploads. testing has toons of packages waiting in unstable that will migrate as soon as the freeze for testing is lifted |
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| 17:26.20 | stew | last release we had somehting like 1000 new packages into testing with the first dinstall run |
| 17:26.38 | Lcawte | How do I install locale stuff? |
| 17:26.47 | Lcawte | (en-gb) |
| 17:26.51 | stew | Lcawte: aptitude install locales? |
| 17:27.06 | stew | or if that is already installed, dpkg-reonfigure locales |
| 17:27.12 | eshat | Lcawte: depends on package |
| 17:27.32 | eshat | Lcawte: for iceweasel you have iceweasel-l10n-XX |
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| 17:28.22 | magesing | Where can I figure out of audio recording is known to work on my soundcard? I have a feeling that it may simply not work in the driver |
| 17:28.34 | magesing | My soundcard is 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Ibex Peak High Definition Audio [8086:3b56] (rev 05) |
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| 17:29.16 | swerve | hey all - i upgraded mythtv in the multimedia repo to 0.24 (unstable), but I want to downgrade again to 0.23 - what's the best way to do it? |
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| 17:29.31 | swerve | if i reset the repo to squeeze will it rever the package? |
| 17:29.40 | swerve | *revert |
| 17:29.41 | eshat | magesing: did you check, if the micro is unmuted ? by default it is muted (check with alsamixer) |
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| 17:30.02 | Lcawte | Cool, cheers sterna |
| 17:30.05 | Lcawte | stew * |
| 17:30.14 | magesing | eshat: yes the microphone hardware has been checked on another computer |
| 17:30.26 | magesing | eshat: I have tried all possible ports on my machine |
| 17:30.37 | eshat | magesing: you need to umute in _software_ |
| 17:30.43 | eshat | *unmute |
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| 17:31.27 | magesing | eshat: I have no muted channels in alsamixer, all at max volume |
| 17:31.45 | eshat | magesing: press tab to switch to inpute channels |
| 17:31.58 | magesing | eshat: I pressed tab twice to get to all |
| 17:32.02 | magesing | eshat: nothing is muted |
| 17:32.04 | eshat | ahh ok |
| 17:32.36 | cahoot | magesing: capture enabled (if there's an option fort that) ? |
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| 17:32.49 | eshat | press space while selecting "mic" |
| 17:33.08 | eshat | and connect to (green) jack on back of pc (or notebook) |
| 17:35.12 | babilen | magesing: You also use a newer kernel than the one in Lenny, don't you? http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh will gather all the information #debian or #alsa will need ... But walk this through with eshat first. |
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| 17:38.36 | magesing | babilen: I'm using one from backports |
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| 17:39.47 | magesing | I found a workign set of settings, apparantly if smart 5.1 is a killswitch for recording |
| 17:40.23 | magesing | Thanks for your help |
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| 17:41.39 | stew | swerve: a downgrade would not happen automatically, you could try "aptitude install packagename=version" to force a downgrade |
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| 17:42.31 | boehmer | i have installed squirrelmail and it seems to work basically |
| 17:42.39 | boehmer | but after logging in i am instantly logged out |
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| 17:42.51 | boehmer | i never actually see the mail page |
| 17:43.05 | boehmer | any hints why that is? |
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| 17:43.15 | boehmer | i didn't configure squirrelmail in any special way |
| 17:43.24 | boehmer | it just used imap and smtp on localhost |
| 17:43.24 | swerve | stew: thanks - would that handle the dependencies too, or would i have to do those manually |
| 17:43.38 | eshat | boehmer: if you have the choice I would recommend roundcube as webmail |
| 17:43.48 | Jamesy | Anyone have any ideas how to install GCC manually into a chroot? |
| 17:44.08 | eshat | roundcube is like googlemail, mainly written in AJAX and therefor very very fast, while squirrelmail didn't change for years |
| 17:44.19 | boehmer | eshat: i see |
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| 17:44.46 | boehmer | eshat: knew squirrelmail as default solution for years. now i set up my own mail server and just stick to it. roundcube looks nice! |
| 17:44.47 | eshat | boehmer: it is very easy to configure, I replaces squirrelmail at our university with it |
| 17:45.06 | stew | swerve: it would handle the dependencies. you might have to try several solutions in aptitude before you get one that does what you want |
| 17:45.39 | stew | swerve: well, it depends on what exactly you mean by "handle the dependencies" |
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| 17:46.06 | stew | swerve: also note that downgrading is typically not supported. if upgrading changed the format of data files, for instance |
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| 17:55.05 | freelove | hi |
| 17:55.07 | freelove | salut |
| 17:55.17 | renned | hi |
| 17:55.39 | freelove | Know a good scan archives? |
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| 17:56.07 | renned | ?? |
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| 17:56.26 | freelove | 01 |
| 17:56.30 | freelove | scan arhive |
| 17:56.31 | freelove | for |
| 17:56.31 | freelove | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.34 | freelove | hacking |
| 17:56.43 | skamikaze | ... please don't abuse enter |
| 17:56.48 | freelove | ok sorry |
| 17:57.43 | cahoot | repeating a hard to understand term doesn't make it much easier to comprehend |
| 17:58.00 | skamikaze | maybe you search sth like damn vulnerable linux |
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| 17:58.48 | jelly-hme | freelove: what would a "scan archive" be anyway? |
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| 18:00.27 | AZora | metasploit |
| 18:00.49 | amphi | freelove: 'linux hacking'? you want to do kernel development? |
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| 18:01.29 | freelove | unable to open display ":0" |
| 18:01.30 | daemonkeeper | Probably freelove should explain what he means, otherwise we may continue to play Jeopardy |
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| 18:01.44 | freelove | why ? unable to open display ":0" |
| 18:01.56 | micols | try ssh -X , if you're using ssh |
| 18:02.07 | micols | else export DISPLAY=:1 (if you have display 1) :) |
| 18:02.07 | AZora | freelove: most common reason for that error if on localhost would be a change of the hostname |
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| 18:02.21 | micols | you didn't specify your complete problem though |
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| 18:03.28 | freelove | unable to open display ":0" |
| 18:03.28 | freelove | I wanted to give the command. / sc_serv to turn on a radio and appeared server: unable to open display ': 0 " |
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| 18:04.24 | freelove | hoff:~# hostname |
| 18:04.25 | freelove | hoff |
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| 18:04.28 | ColegaCulero | Grita orgulloso "¡Soy homosexual!" entra en http://colegasculeros.blogspot.com/ videochat gratis para colegas culeros!!! http://colegasculeros.blogspot.com/ |
| 18:04.49 | dan- | .. |
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| 18:05.02 | amphi | 'orgulloso' is a great word |
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| 18:05.55 | ColegaCulero | Grita orgulloso "¡Soy homosexual!" entra en http://colegasculeros.blogspot.com/ videochat gratis para colegas culeros!!! http://colegasculeros.blogspot.com/ |
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| 18:06.56 | AZora | Greetings Mr Galt :) |
| 18:07.09 | ColegaCulero | Grita orgulloso "¡Soy homosexual!" entra en http://colegasculeros.blogspot.com/ videochat gratis para colegas culeros!!! http://colegasculeros.blogspot.com/ |
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| 18:07.12 | daemonkeeper | !ops ColegaCulero spams channel with swearings and obscenities |
| 18:07.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: daemonkeeper complains about: ColegaCulero spams channel with swearings and obscenities |
| 18:07.14 | daemonkeeper | Oh |
| 18:07.20 | daemonkeeper | ty stew |
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| 18:07.29 | freelove | so why is unable to open display ': 0 " |
| 18:07.54 | freelove | so why is unable to open display ': 0 " |
| 18:07.57 | AZora | !ops ColegaCulero spams channel with swearings and obscenities |
| 18:07.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: azora complains about: ColegaCulero spams channel with swearings and obscenities |
| 18:08.08 | AZora | freelove: that depends: are you local or remote? |
| 18:08.09 | LoRez | AZora: you mean the same one that was just killed? knock it off. |
| 18:08.12 | stew | AZora: he was not only quieted in here, but removed from the network |
| 18:08.29 | stew | freelove: it should be ":0" not ": 0" |
| 18:08.31 | AZora | ah nice, thought it might be vote based from the op response |
| 18:08.36 | freelove | Azora: remote |
| 18:08.53 | freelove | Azora: I have ssh access |
| 18:09.14 | AZora | freelove: then you need to look into ssh tunneling of your Xwindow DISPLAY as recommended by micols a while back |
| 18:09.15 | daemonkeeper | AZora, This is a op highlight multiplexer. We may/have to hope one responds to the highlight. |
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| 18:09.43 | freelove | and that would be the command? |
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| 18:09.50 | freelove | AZora: and that would be the command? |
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| 18:10.08 | stew | freelove: you are running a command on a remote host or local host? |
| 18:10.20 | freelove | remote host - ssh acces |
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| 18:10.39 | jelly-hme | daemonkeeper: one already did, even before AZora did that !ops |
| 18:10.48 | stew | freelove: and you want the client to appear on the local x server or remote x server? |
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| 18:11.24 | daemonkeeper | jelly-hme, Yes, I know. I did too :) |
| 18:11.28 | freelove | do not just want to start a radio server |
| 18:11.36 | jelly-hme | daemonkeeper: sorry, I can't read |
| 18:11.42 | jelly-hme | apparently |
| 18:12.14 | freelove | do not just want to start a radio server |
| 18:12.22 | AZora | freelove: you say "radio server" but I'm curious if you're expecting sound to come out of your computer, or if this is a radio station you want to broadcast |
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| 18:13.05 | freelove | let me not start any application |
| 18:13.21 | stew | freelove: well it seems that whatever command you are running is trying to connect to an x server |
| 18:13.33 | stew | freelove: most likely to create a window |
| 18:13.36 | daemonkeeper | Never mind jelly-hme. I think we must not discuss more about spammers than necessary ;) |
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| 18:15.13 | jhutchins_lt | Is there a romanian channel somewhere? |
| 18:15.27 | jelly-hme | !ro |
| 18:15.27 | dpkg | Pentru ajutor in limba romana va rugam vizitati #debian-ro pe irc.oftc.net. Romanian users: for help in romanian, please visit #debian-ro on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 18:17.16 | Pras | can any one say how to connect a mobile in debian and to retrieve and send sms from it |
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| 18:18.23 | Pras | please can anyone help me? |
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| 18:18.59 | rozie | Pras: lot of solutions |
| 18:19.10 | rozie | Pras: gammu, wammu, gnokii are the names |
| 18:19.12 | Pras | ya please... can you xplain me.... |
| 18:19.29 | rozie | you can connect with bluetooth, usb or serial |
| 18:19.33 | rozie | nothing to add ;) |
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| 18:19.59 | Pras | i tried xgnokii but the gui interface flashed n went |
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| 18:20.31 | kunwon21 | kunwon1 here. ##politics invites you to join in the discussion. Liberals and leftists are threatening this great country. Fight with us to take it back! We need your support in ##politics NOW! Don't let the Obamaination continue! kunwon21 ring1 freelove valdyn githogori scoobertron gusto rcu Pras Spec Tuxist DelphiWorld trbs dutchfish Infra_HDC jgalt Brigo dorp jhutchins_lt adb topgun21 gratnam1__ headyadmin pawelpaja batchy dserban karsten-nr Chelsea_ |
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| 18:20.49 | *** mode/#debian [+r] by themill |
| 18:20.56 | sllide | +r? |
| 18:21.08 | stew | sllide: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
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| 18:21.22 | dvs | thought he was allowed to read the channel |
| 18:21.36 | DelphiWorld | lol |
| 18:21.41 | sllide | ah |
| 18:21.42 | DelphiWorld | what's this spam abrotman? |
| 18:21.46 | DelphiWorld | DUDE! |
| 18:21.59 | abrotman | ignore it |
| 18:22.07 | abrotman | that's why it's called spam |
| 18:22.10 | Pras | rozie : actually my idea is to interface a mobile with mysql database and based on some queries from the sms mysql should return some data to sender |
| 18:22.22 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: :-) |
| 18:22.26 | DelphiWorld | themill: thanks for +r |
| 18:22.55 | rozie | Pras: I think I saw ready solution for this. look for it. |
| 18:23.25 | Pras | rozie : where i have to look rozie..... |
| 18:23.39 | Pras | can u guide me if u know it |
| 18:23.45 | Pras | please.... |
| 18:23.49 | rozie | Pras: http://www.google.com/ |
| 18:23.59 | Pras | hey hey... pl dont kidd |
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| 18:25.28 | jhutchins_lt | Pras: There is a #debian-in channel |
| 18:25.44 | AZora | Pras, you're asking for a pretty big project. PHP+Mysql is probably the toolset you want. This isn't really the place. |
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| 18:26.24 | stew | AZora: why would you pick php as a language for talking to cellphones? |
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| 18:27.35 | AZora | stew: he's likely to be doing web services, and find a ton of PHP+Mysql examples. He could use ADO.net or RoR or a dozen other things, but my suggestion was a place to start. He could even do SMS and an email gateway, but the learning curve there is steep |
| 18:29.20 | stew | oh, i didn't see him mention web services |
| 18:30.49 | jelly-hme | "Hi, I have a complex programming project to accomplish and have wondered into your fine channel in hopes of someone having a ready-made solution for me, for free" |
| 18:31.00 | jelly-hme | wandered* dammit |
| 18:31.20 | jelly-hme | "please..." |
| 18:31.47 | rozie | ;-) |
| 18:32.17 | jhutchins_lt | I think he was trying to connect his cell phone to his PC so he could send SMS messages over the phone, but I don't know of anybody doing that. |
| 18:32.53 | rozie | jhutchins_lt: with mysql? ;> |
| 18:33.47 | stew | jelly-hme: try using fortran (assuming that your project is heavily math based) |
| 18:33.57 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, I see there was more to it. |
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| 18:36.18 | beardy | jelly-hme: Try using COBOL if you want to make much monis. |
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| 18:37.28 | jelly-hme | beardy: thanks! [25 minutes pass, it rejoins with a different nickname] "How do I solve C.P.P. with COBOL?" |
| 18:37.44 | solifugus | Does anyone know how I can change kernel parameters at runtime--specifically: divider=10 clocksource=acpi_pm |
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| 18:41.06 | romel | hi guys! i've got a general desktop-related question. I installed debian squeeze onto my desktop recently and noticed the very molesting video quality defect. I can't translate it into english in one word but seems like 'tearing' term is relevant here. |
| 18:41.33 | jelly-hme | solifugus: see if this results in something useful on your machine: find /sys -name '*clocksource*' |
| 18:41.51 | solifugus | ok |
| 18:42.25 | romel | it looks like horisontal line breaks video into two parts when vertical positioned object is moving |
| 18:43.26 | solifugus | jelly-hme: a number of items came up, but shouldn't all this be under /proc? Actually, I don't know what /sys is all about. |
| 18:43.54 | jelly-hme | solifugus: it's similar in that it provides access to some kernel tunables |
| 18:44.10 | romel | can anybody tell me what's the problem? i am using radeon hd5770 with it's proprietary fglrx driver |
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| 18:44.38 | jelly-hme | romel: yes, that's tearing |
| 18:45.33 | solifugus | jelly-hme: i c.. So clock sources available include "tsc acpi_pm jiffies" and the current is "tsc".. So I just need to adjust that.. great.. |
| 18:45.54 | romel | jelly-hme: is it possible to avoid this in any way? I understand that it's kind of lame question but... |
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| 18:46.51 | jhutchins_lt | romel: You could try the Debian driver for it. Other than that, submit a bug to ATI. |
| 18:46.52 | karlpinc | romel: What's the pciid as reported by "lspci -nn"? (Not that I know, but I know how to feed the bot a pciid.) |
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| 18:47.37 | jelly-hme | romel: video player software often has options for that, something like "enable vsync" |
| 18:47.58 | romel | karlpinc: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Juniper [Radeon H |
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| 18:48.33 | romel | jelly-hme: thanks, i'll try it |
| 18:48.38 | jelly-hme | romel: you may have to use a different video-output mode/driver. |
| 18:48.41 | karlpinc | romel: You forgot the -nn |
| 18:49.20 | jelly-hme | romel: also there are VSYNC tunables for OpenGL. I don't know how those are accessed with fglrx. |
| 18:49.34 | romel | karlpinc: that was a copy/paste problem :) [1002:68b8] |
| 18:49.35 | solifugus | jelly-hme: actually.. I couldn't find *divider* in the same way... hmmm... |
| 18:49.47 | karlpinc | ,pciid [1002:68b8] |
| 18:49.48 | judd | [1002:68b8] is 'Juniper [Radeon HD 5700 Series]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel module 'ati-agp' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:68b8 http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and the out-of-tree 'fglrx' module. |
| 18:49.55 | jelly-hme | solifugus: I have no idea what that divider boot parameter is about |
| 18:50.33 | karlpinc | romel: So, I suppose unless it's changed for squeeze you could try the ati-agp driver. |
| 18:51.06 | solifugus | I believe it's to set the frequency of clock interrupts for checking time.. ESX gives bad time when its VMs are using interrupts faster than the host's hardware can provider for.. |
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| 18:54.10 | dacqueries | can anyone tell me how to set the username and password for smtp to authenticate against a relay? |
| 18:54.19 | dacqueries | sorry in RT3.8 |
| 18:54.33 | babilen | !tell dacqueries -about bt4 |
| 18:54.50 | babilen | dacqueries: Ah, disregard that. What is RT3.8 ? |
| 18:55.16 | dacqueries | request tracker....uses smtp and I can set the server but don't know how to set the username/password |
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| 19:03.01 | [4-tea-2] | I need to share this uptime with you: "20:02:29 up 1000 days, 8:43, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00". |
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| 19:04.12 | dvs | o_O |
| 19:04.34 | dvs | Must have a lot of unpatched security issued thought |
| 19:04.38 | dvs | *though |
| 19:04.45 | stew | [4-tea-2]: do you need instructtions on how to upgrade your kernel then, i suppose? |
| 19:05.32 | [4-tea-2] | stew: nah, it's a backend machine running Debian/squeeze and will be migrated to a VM today, that's the only reason I noticed the cute uptime. |
| 19:06.59 | funyun | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/s6PnCg6f |
| 19:08.27 | jhutchins_lt | When I plug a flash card into my reader, the reader is recognized as a new USB device in dmesg, but I don't see any way to access it. No mountable drive is created. |
| 19:08.42 | dacqueries | does anyone know what debian's default smtp server is and how to set user credentials? |
| 19:09.07 | abrotman | funyun: ? |
| 19:09.26 | abrotman | funyun: oh, you have grub2 .. /boot/grub/grub.cfg is your config .. |
| 19:09.29 | dvs | dacqueries: exim4 is the default server but what do you mean by credentials |
| 19:09.52 | dacqueries | i need to set smtp creds so that I can relay mail through an external server |
| 19:10.02 | dacqueries | a username and password for relaying |
| 19:10.14 | dvs | dacqueries: that's up to the external server |
| 19:10.15 | dacqueries | I'm using request tracker which uses smtp to send mail |
| 19:10.37 | dacqueries | but I need to set creds to rela\ |
| 19:10.40 | dacqueries | relay* |
| 19:11.27 | funyun | abrotman: yes. so how do i boot into the correct new kernel? |
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| 19:14.32 | karlpinc | jhutchins_lt: What do you mean no mountable drive? What does file -s /dev/foo say? |
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| 19:15.03 | abrotman | funyun: did you try 'update-grub' and look at the output ? |
| 19:15.17 | jhutchins_lt | karlpinc: no /dev/foo is created. |
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| 19:16.52 | funyun | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/zpud96fw |
| 19:18.01 | abrotman | funyun: i very much wonder if it will boot if you use the .26 .. but if you really want to try .. you can change the default in /etc/default/grub |
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| 19:19.19 | karlpinc | jhutchins_lt: Humm... I'd be curious to see the dmesg line. The kernel's supposed to make you a device. Maybe a newer kernel would help?(!) |
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| 19:23.04 | iaj | Lo there :-) can someone tell me how I can find out how much memory is currently installed? |
| 19:23.28 | abrotman | cat /proc/meminfo |
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| 19:24.24 | esing | hi |
| 19:24.28 | iaj | MemTotal: 3500464 kB so there are only 4 gig active? |
| 19:24.30 | dvs | bonjour |
| 19:24.38 | iaj | abrotman: since I just installed 12 gig of memory |
| 19:24.50 | abrotman | iaj: uname -r |
| 19:25.13 | esing | I want to install wireshark to my debian , ergo I will need a desktop environment. How can I still boot after installing the desktop environment from root shell? |
| 19:25.31 | iaj | abrotman: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
| 19:25.38 | dvs | ouch! |
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| 19:25.57 | dvs | esing: The computer will still boot with a desktop environment |
| 19:26.33 | esing | dvs, but I'd like to chose between booting to root shell (100%) or with desktop environmen t. isnt this possible? |
| 19:26.55 | dvs | esing: don't install gdm, kdm, etc. |
| 19:27.07 | esing | dvs but I need to use wireshark |
| 19:27.19 | dvs | !gdm |
| 19:27.19 | dpkg | methinks gdm is the <GNOME> Display Manager, a <display manager> based on <xdm>, but with no original xdm code. Written with looks (and security) in mind. It uses ~/.gnomerc instead of ~/.xsession. http://projects.gnome.org/gdm #gdm on irc.gimp.org. Not to be confused with the General Purpose Mouse (GPM) interface, see <gpm>. |
| 19:27.22 | iaj | abrotman: is there a problem with my revision? |
| 19:28.23 | dvs | esing: you can start X by running "startx" manually |
| 19:28.34 | esing | ah ye |
| 19:28.38 | esing | that is what I searched for |
| 19:29.00 | esing | can I use startx with ie kdm or LXDE too? |
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| 19:29.08 | esing | or do I need to get gdm? |
| 19:29.08 | dvs | esing: yes |
| 19:29.12 | esing | ah oki |
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| 19:29.24 | esing | how can I setup this? |
| 19:29.26 | dvs | esing: you don't want gdm or else X will start on bootup |
| 19:29.39 | esing | ah i see |
| 19:29.49 | dvs | or kdm |
| 19:29.55 | toropisco | iaj: either install a PAE kernel (aka "server) or a 64-bit OS. |
| 19:30.01 | Bushmills | esing: "I want to install wireshark to my debian , ergo I will need a desktop environment" .. wrong |
| 19:30.22 | esing | bushmills why ? should I use tshark isntead? |
| 19:30.31 | esing | dvs so after I installed LXDE how can I start from root ? |
| 19:30.34 | Bushmills | you can install x clients on machines without installing desktop environment on the same machine |
| 19:30.53 | Arrowmaster | you dont even need to install an xserver |
| 19:30.55 | dvs | esing: why do you want to start from root? |
| 19:31.16 | esing | dvs I prefere this debian shell with root |
| 19:31.18 | esing | dont need sudo |
| 19:31.19 | Bushmills | because you can run an x client on a remote machine, and have its output on a local machine with x server |
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| 19:31.37 | dvs | esing: running X with root is not recommended. |
| 19:31.43 | Arrowmaster | esing: well you dont want to run startx as root |
| 19:31.46 | rozie | esing: just install slim (or kdm, gdm, xdm...) |
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| 19:32.22 | rozie | esing: if you like console, you can always switch to console with alt+ctrl+F2 (F3, F4...) |
| 19:32.23 | esing | Arrowmaster why |
| 19:32.28 | tdn | I have a few Testo data loggers. Do you know, if I can get software to pull out the data from Debian? |
| 19:32.36 | esing | Arrowmaster can I not startx without root then? |
| 19:32.48 | Arrowmaster | you can, but its a bad idea |
| 19:32.48 | rozie | and return to LDXE on console under F7 or F8 (by default) |
| 19:32.53 | esing | Arrowmaster adding a new user without root rights |
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| 19:33.05 | esing | and then startx |
| 19:33.15 | Arrowmaster | you can do that |
| 19:33.24 | rozie | I like console too, but I prefer to use konsole or any other graphical console... |
| 19:33.27 | esing | Arrowmaster so would you suggest me LXDE then? |
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| 19:33.38 | Bushmills | terminator rocks |
| 19:33.53 | Makuew | Is there a vnc channel on this network, if not can i ask here? |
| 19:34.25 | funyun | abrotman: what exactly do i change in /etc/default/grub? |
| 19:34.36 | esing | How would I setup my distribution to start from root and that I can manually switch to a user without root rights and then start startx? |
| 19:35.03 | Bushmills | "to start from root"? |
| 19:35.17 | esing | right now I start debian lenny with root |
| 19:35.20 | esing | just have to enter my pass |
| 19:35.24 | esing | in beginnning |
| 19:35.26 | Makuew | Ok, i edited groub to boot from an pxe install of the os with vnc access. But after reboot it answeres on ping but the vnc is not running. Can this be because i used a 3 letter password and vnc requires more? |
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| 19:35.27 | esing | then Iam in shell |
| 19:35.36 | Bushmills | you boot, then you get a login prompt. |
| 19:35.40 | esing | yus |
| 19:35.46 | Bushmills | there's no root involved yet |
| 19:35.53 | esing | yep that I meant |
| 19:36.01 | Bushmills | at that prompt, log in as user |
| 19:36.06 | esing | my bash line says: |
| 19:36.09 | esing | debian: |
| 19:36.15 | esing | that is why think iam root |
| 19:36.36 | esing | ah i forgot that I chose my username to debian:D |
| 19:36.38 | esing | my fault |
| 19:36.38 | esing | :)) |
| 19:36.45 | esing | *g* |
| 19:37.35 | esing | anyways how can I setup my distribution to start from shell and to start desktop environment _only_ manually |
| 19:37.57 | Bushmills | you get a graphical login prompt? |
| 19:38.10 | jhutchins_lt | esing: disable the ?dm in init. |
| 19:38.12 | dvs | esing: don't install gdm, kdm,.etc |
| 19:38.16 | Arrowmaster | you just dont install anything like gdm/kdm/xdm/slim |
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| 19:38.31 | dvs | !tell esing about nodm |
| 19:38.32 | esing | hmm |
| 19:38.39 | Bushmills | or remove it from the runlevel you're booting into. |
| 19:38.55 | Bushmills | then you can simply turn graphical login on and off by changing runlevel |
| 19:38.56 | esing | ah now I udnerstood |
| 19:38.57 | esing | !! |
| 19:38.57 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 19:38.59 | esing | thnx a lot :D |
| 19:39.19 | esing | i will install lxde now |
| 19:39.24 | jhutchins_lt | esing: Alternatively, you can create a console-only runlevel without the ?dm, then make that the default, and you can switch back and forth easily. |
| 19:39.32 | esing | because sometimes i need gui especially for pastbin |
| 19:39.37 | Bushmills | or install qingy |
| 19:39.45 | jhutchins_lt | (This being the sensible default in _real_ SysV init systems.) |
| 19:39.46 | Arrowmaster | !pastebinit |
| 19:39.46 | dpkg | [pastebinit] a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". |
| 19:40.03 | Bushmills | that gives you login prompt which you can configure to either start X sessions or console sessions |
| 19:40.14 | esing | bushmillys yus you are right about pastebinit, but copying and pasting from websites isnt possible or hard to do with frames etc |
| 19:40.19 | jhutchins_lt | needs to watch the scrollbuffer while he's typing. |
| 19:40.32 | Bushmills | esing: i didn't say anything about pastebinit |
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| 19:40.53 | esing | ah i meant Arrowmaster |
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| 19:41.15 | esing | Bushmills I will install lxde then thnx a lot |
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| 19:42.00 | Bushmills | qingy can also start lxde session, from a text login, if you like |
| 19:42.15 | Bushmills | but also optionally from a graphic login |
| 19:42.56 | esing | ah dont need it |
| 19:43.19 | Bushmills | makes gdm/kdm/xdm/ldm etc unnecessary |
| 19:43.36 | Bushmills | replaces ?getty |
| 19:44.16 | Bushmills | (getty gives you the text login) |
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| 19:45.19 | funyun | abrotman: what exactly do i change in /etc/default/grub? |
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| 19:51.01 | abrotman | funyun: sorry, i keep getting called away :) |
| 19:51.24 | abrotman | funyun: you cahnge the GRUB_DEFAULT to probably .. "3" ? .. though i may be wrong |
| 19:51.43 | abrotman | iaj: did you get it figured otu? |
| 19:52.28 | funyun | abrotman: can any damage be done if you're wrong? |
| 19:52.37 | abrotman | sure .. it won't boot |
| 19:52.44 | funyun | ouch |
| 19:53.43 | dvs | by chaning the default kernel? Or is the old kernel uninstalled? |
| 19:54.24 | funyun | dvs: changing default |
| 19:54.55 | dvs | funyun: if you can select another kernel during the boot then it should be OK. |
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| 19:55.47 | funyun | dvs: it's a dedicated server. can i still do that? |
| 19:56.29 | dvs | funyun: What do you mean "dedicated server"? No keyboard, and/or screen? |
| 19:56.31 | stew | funyun: do you have a way to connect to a console? |
| 19:56.51 | funyun | it's in a different country than me |
| 19:57.14 | funyun | stew: ssh and vnc |
| 19:57.16 | dvs | ah, now I see. |
| 19:57.29 | stew | funyun: no ipmi or ilo or anything like that? |
| 19:57.36 | stew | wasn't this virtual hardware? |
| 19:57.44 | stew | i dont remember |
| 19:58.11 | funyun | stew: yes. i'm trying to install a virtual windows os |
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| 19:59.03 | funyun | stew: but the host (ovh) uses their own custom kernel |
| 19:59.06 | PWizard | Hi all |
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| 19:59.42 | PWizard | What's a good way to get dpkg to tell me what packages depend on a specified (installed) package? |
| 20:00.04 | abrotman | PWizard: you may want apt-cache |
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| 20:00.14 | esing | iam currently logged in as root |
| 20:00.22 | esing | how can I switch to a less previliged user? |
| 20:00.31 | Optic | hey, does anyone have iwl3945 wifi working with WPA under squeeze? |
| 20:00.42 | saivert | su <username> ? |
| 20:00.46 | esing | aht hx |
| 20:00.53 | esing | worked |
| 20:00.53 | saivert | or su - <username> for a login shell |
| 20:00.53 | esing | thx |
| 20:01.00 | jhutchins_lt | saivert: ALways su - username |
| 20:01.01 | Optic | it works 100% fine in Slax under 2.6.27.27 but not under Squeeze :( |
| 20:01.12 | saivert | login shell meaning you get the full environment of that user |
| 20:01.24 | jhutchins_lt | !iwl3945 |
| 20:01.25 | dpkg | iwlwifi is the driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless LAN chipsets since Lenny. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. If upgrading from Etch, see http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi to switch from ipw3945 to iwl3945. See also <iwlagn> <wmaster0>. #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:01.26 | PWizard | abrotman: hmm.. I can use "apt-cache show some_package" to see what that package depends on, but not what installed packages depend on it... |
| 20:01.49 | PWizard | abrotman: ah, nevermind |
| 20:01.50 | Optic | thanks ;) |
| 20:01.58 | PWizard | abrotman: I learn something new every minute |
| 20:02.02 | jhutchins_lt | PWizard: Well, one way would be "aptitude remove <package>" |
| 20:02.43 | peterS | PWizard,jhutchins_lt: better is 'aptitude why <package>' |
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| 20:03.04 | peterS | as in 'why is this installed' |
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| 20:04.29 | PWizard | peterS: neat trick |
| 20:04.57 | Jemt | Is there some other way I can execute a binary other than ./binary ? e.g. "exec binary" ? |
| 20:05.33 | Jemt | I can't invoke "./binary" from a Java application |
| 20:05.54 | Optic | jhutchins_lt: is it known to work ok with WPA? |
| 20:06.00 | froggyman | Why isn't the build of Chromium in the repos up to date? It says that its on 6.0.472.63 (59945), when Chromium is on 10.x.x.x.x ? |
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| 20:06.23 | PWizard | Jemt: Executing from within an application and from your command line are very different |
| 20:06.30 | stew | froggyman: because sqeezue was frozen in august |
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| 20:07.16 | jhutchins_lt | Optic: Most do these days. |
| 20:07.33 | froggyman | stew: Okay. So after this weekend, when i stay on unstable it should be updated? |
| 20:07.37 | Enverex | Are there any Linux web management interfaces out there anymore after Webmin was dropped? (it's for a headless box running as a NAS and other things) |
| 20:07.37 | PWizard | Jemt: You will probably need to use something like this: http://download.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Runtime.html |
| 20:07.37 | jhutchins_lt | froggyman: Welcome to debian. |
| 20:07.43 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions chromium |
| 20:07.44 | judd | Package chromium on i386 -- lenny: 0.9.13.2-1; sid: 0.9.14.1-2; squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2 |
| 20:07.46 | stew | froggyman: unstable is already at 0.x.x |
| 20:07.52 | Jemt | PWizard: Thanks |
| 20:07.54 | stew | froggyman: sorry 9.x.x |
| 20:08.34 | jhutchins_lt | stew: Wonder why judd doesn't know that. |
| 20:08.39 | stew | jhutchins_lt: it does |
| 20:08.51 | stew | judd: versions chromium-browser |
| 20:08.52 | judd | Package chromium-browser on i386 -- squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5; experimental: 9.0.597.45~r70550-1; sid: 9.0.597.83~r72435-1 |
| 20:09.08 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, my own ignorance, not judd's. |
| 20:09.30 | PWizard | Jemt: no prob. Also, that's a Java question, not a debian question. :) |
| 20:09.42 | froggyman | see? Squeeze is on 6.0.x |
| 20:10.10 | stew | froggyman: yes, because squeeze was frozen in august. squeeze with release with this version |
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| 20:11.28 | froggyman | Alright, I guess that makes sense. Thanks |
| 20:11.59 | karlpinc | froggyman: New to Debian? You might find http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware useful. |
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| 20:20.16 | esing | hi |
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| 20:20.27 | esing | which internet browser would you recommend for lenny? |
| 20:20.42 | tk8 | im running lenny/sid and getting a 404 when running apt-get.. how do i update my repository? |
| 20:20.43 | Arrowmaster | iceweasel |
| 20:20.43 | peterS | I use elinks and iceweasel |
| 20:20.53 | esing | thnx |
| 20:21.12 | Arrowmaster | tk8: lenny/sid?!?! you must be insane |
| 20:21.22 | tk8 | :( |
| 20:21.40 | OpenTokix | tk8: sid dont have a security repo |
| 20:22.05 | Arrowmaster | but what exactly is it 404ing on |
| 20:22.29 | tk8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.42 | Arrowmaster | dotdeb.... yeah your insane |
| 20:22.42 | tk8 | @Arrowmaster |
| 20:22.56 | stew | what could possibly go wrong? |
| 20:23.06 | tk8 | why am I insane? :) |
| 20:23.13 | jelly-hme | !flw0 |
| 20:23.13 | dpkg | <meoblast_> i just always use root to avoid trouble |
| 20:23.28 | Arrowmaster | !dotdeb |
| 20:23.29 | dpkg | dotdeb is probably for the latest PHP and MySQL releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/, but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN. The packages from backports.debian.org are vastly superior.. Ask me about <backports> and <debian-backports>. "aptitude purge ~Vdotdeb" |
| 20:23.30 | stew | tk8: mixing stable and unstable is strongly discouraged. using dotdeb.org is strongly discouraged |
| 20:23.34 | jhutchins_lt | Possibly this system was installed when lenny was testing. That would explain lenny/sid. |
| 20:24.29 | doubleukay | gah. if only I read that advice on dotdeb a few months back ^ |
| 20:24.34 | stew | tk8: in any case. "apt-get update" or "aptitude update" should fix the problem with dotdeb.org, if not, you should talk to them |
| 20:24.50 | Pumba | tk8: you're trying to access -mcrypt_5.2.11-0; the version in /binary-amd64/ is 5.2.17, though ... stew's advice should work |
| 20:24.57 | jhutchins_lt | tk8: Still time to fix it. |
| 20:25.07 | saivert | well probably because dotdeb comes up more often than backports.debian.org when people just want the latest stable PHP on their Debian server |
| 20:25.13 | tk8 | thanks guys |
| 20:25.28 | jhutchins_lt | tk8: Do you mean that you're running lenny mixed with sid, or that your version says lenny/sid? |
| 20:25.28 | saivert | seems silly to be using stuff from Debian testing just to have an updated PHP |
| 20:25.37 | Pumba | had the same problem once when trying to install something from a 2-months-old squeeze package list ;) |
| 20:25.37 | saivert | the PHP in current debian is ancient |
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| 20:25.55 | stew | saivert: yes, using php from either dotdeb or testing on stable would be silly |
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| 20:26.09 | saivert | oh so stick with old PHP then |
| 20:26.10 | Arrowmaster | saivert: wait a week and say that again |
| 20:26.11 | stew | and this is why "giyf" is a lie |
| 20:26.35 | saivert | or pressure PHP devs to slow down development. goes too fast for debian to catch up |
| 20:26.42 | tk8 | W: GPG error: http://packages.dotdeb.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E9C74FEEA2098A6E |
| 20:26.42 | tk8 | ? |
| 20:26.53 | saivert | version number inflation |
| 20:27.04 | stew | saivert: tell the devs not to require features not on the platform you are going to deploy on |
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| 20:27.25 | saivert | well several CMS packages require a more recent PHP one that has bugs fixed etc |
| 20:27.36 | saivert | they don't care that Debian lenny comes with an old php |
| 20:27.56 | stew | i'd recommend not using that CMS then, or moving to squeeze |
| 20:28.04 | tk8 | i fixed that one |
| 20:28.11 | stew | or use somehting other than debian |
| 20:28.22 | saivert | problem: squeeze is not stable yet at least not released. |
| 20:28.33 | Arrowmaster | wait a week |
| 20:28.41 | saivert | non-solutions |
| 20:28.57 | jhutchins_lt | Drupal works just fine with lenny. |
| 20:28.59 | stew | saivert: it will be in a few days. there is little reason not to move to it now, its getting full security support |
| 20:29.23 | saivert | but then again even just compiling PHP from source is recommended a lot too |
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| 20:29.56 | stew | recommended by whom? |
| 20:30.16 | stew | running windows is recommended a lot, doesn't make it a good recommendation |
| 20:30.36 | saivert | so you define what is a good recommended then? |
| 20:30.54 | HackeMate | mplayer dvb:// shows tv, but how to manage its channels or change channel? it doesnt show any menu |
| 20:31.02 | stew | saivert: stick with debian stable and the php that comes with it |
| 20:31.22 | stew | my recommendation would extend to avoiding php if possible, which is unfortunately often hard |
| 20:31.30 | saivert | or add dotdeb repos and get the PHP that works |
| 20:31.43 | stew | many people here would strongly recommend against that |
| 20:31.48 | saivert | since it is a deb package you can always purge it |
| 20:31.48 | jhutchins_lt | HackeMate: What device? Were you the one doing an eyetv yesterday? |
| 20:31.50 | stew | their packages are historically buggy |
| 20:31.59 | abrotman | saivert: their packages break Debian .. don't recommend them |
| 20:32.09 | saivert | so reduce their google ranking then |
| 20:32.22 | abrotman | i can't .. people that don't know any better keep recommending them |
| 20:32.22 | stew | i have a server now where apache restarts 20 times a day because the dotdeb php segfaults |
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| 20:32.31 | HackeMate | jhujhiti: yes it works, im watching tv gladly, but im experiment what tv player is the best, kaffeine is good but doesnt allow me to put any XY size |
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| 20:32.50 | HackeMate | mplayer allow, but i dont find the menu, anyway i see it works trought shortkeys |
| 20:33.26 | saivert | Drupal 7 failed to find the PHP gd modules even though I had them installed using apt-get. things seemed to magically work using dotdeb version |
| 20:33.36 | saivert | *module |
| 20:33.48 | tuvwx | how do i set /bin/sh to bash permenantly? |
| 20:33.50 | stew | saivert: i'd recommend to sticking with the drupal packaged in debian |
| 20:34.02 | stew | tuvwx: its just a symlink |
| 20:34.03 | saivert | I see a pattern here |
| 20:34.12 | Arrowmaster | tuvwx: umm try dpkg-reconfigure dash |
| 20:34.19 | simonrvn | saivert: WorksforMe |
| 20:34.36 | tuvwx | stew: i know. but 'ln -s bash /bin/sh' seems to lose its effect after a while (probably after upgrades) |
| 20:34.43 | jhutchins_lt | HackeMate: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html |
| 20:35.18 | stew | tuvwx: see Arrowmaster's suggestion |
| 20:35.18 | saivert | I'm not even talking about being on the bleeding edge here. just have something up 2 date |
| 20:35.21 | HackeMate | oh, thanks |
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| 20:35.30 | jhutchins_lt | stew: Hardly any point in using stable debian if he's going to run beta code on it anyway. |
| 20:35.48 | stew | saivert: you might want to look at some other mainstream distro then |
| 20:35.54 | Arrowmaster | this sounds like an a solution for CUT! |
| 20:36.17 | tuvwx | Arrowmaster: thanks. that was it |
| 20:36.18 | stew | Arrowmaster: for a webserver? |
| 20:36.39 | stew | 9 |
| 20:36.43 | saivert | meh.. I seem to manage |
| 20:36.48 | Bushmills | tuvwx: there is no reason, really. shell scripts using bashisms but only have a /bin/sh hashbang should be considered faulty, and as interactive shell, the shell set in your user account is the one which is used |
| 20:36.55 | Arrowmaster | stew: if he constantly wants the most recent versions then yeah |
| 20:37.09 | Arrowmaster | stew: he can keep both pieces if it breaks |
| 20:37.13 | abrotman | except CUT doesn't exist |
| 20:37.19 | Arrowmaster | yet! |
| 20:37.26 | stew | and when/if it does, what will the security support be/ |
| 20:37.30 | jhutchins_lt | Drupal 7's beta anyway. |
| 20:37.34 | jelly-hme | what security support |
| 20:37.40 | stew | ^^ |
| 20:37.52 | jelly-hme | jhutchins_lt: so yeah! Let's make the OS beta as well! |
| 20:38.18 | saivert | define beta |
| 20:38.33 | jhutchins_lt | saivert: Not Ready for Production Use |
| 20:38.37 | jelly-hme | if I have to keep track of Drupal manually, why should I not keep track of EVERY OTHER PIECE OF SOFTWARE as well |
| 20:38.47 | jelly-hme | jhutchins_lt: does that sound silly |
| 20:38.50 | jhutchins_lt | saivert: Experimental. Untested. Probably Unstable. |
| 20:39.03 | saivert | too bad they are celebrating the launch of Drupal 7 on their homepage |
| 20:39.13 | saivert | somebody forgot to tell them it wasn't ready for prime time yet |
| 20:39.20 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-hme: Drupal does have internal version/update tracking. |
| 20:39.39 | saivert | but then again in Debian land "release version" is a bit staggered |
| 20:39.41 | jelly-hme | jhutchins_lt: do all the other components of debian? |
| 20:39.44 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-hme: Since it's just PHP and isolated to it's own part of the filesystem it works. |
| 20:40.03 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-hme: Not as far as I know. mplayer doesn't check for updates ferinstance. |
| 20:40.37 | jelly-hme | jhutchins_lt: I'm making fun of <jhutchins_lt> stew: Hardly any point in using stable debian if he's going to run beta code on it anyway. |
| 20:41.28 | jhutchins_lt | Drupal's an odd bird anywy, seems to mostly be used by PHP hackers as a framework/template for customized code. |
| 20:42.21 | saivert | drupal6 package in Lenny is probably nice. I guess it is set up to use postgresql which is the default SQL server on Debian too then |
| 20:42.40 | jhutchins_lt | Drupal in lenny uses mysql. |
| 20:42.45 | saivert | oh hahahah |
| 20:42.47 | stew | debian doesn't have a default sql server |
| 20:42.51 | saivert | yes it has |
| 20:42.54 | saivert | the SQL Server role |
| 20:42.58 | stew | what is that? |
| 20:43.07 | saivert | you never ran the installer? |
| 20:43.07 | stew | saivert: how does debian define it as a default? |
| 20:43.17 | simonrvn | that task isn't any particular rdbms |
| 20:43.19 | saivert | you get a choice of various roles (Web server, file server, etc) |
| 20:43.28 | stew | you mean tasks, ok |
| 20:43.32 | saivert | if you mark SQL Server for installation it picks postgresql |
| 20:43.40 | saivert | oh whoaw.. sorry for not being 100% correct in my naming |
| 20:43.41 | simonrvn | it's task, per debian terminology |
| 20:43.44 | saivert | I shall be shunned |
| 20:44.00 | simonrvn | sighs |
| 20:44.05 | stew | saivert: sorry to bother you |
| 20:44.35 | tuvwx | Bushmills: i'm using some third-party commercial software that breaks with dash. if it was a debian package i'd submitted a bug report |
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| 20:45.27 | tuvwx | Bushmills: this is probably a big reason why most commercial linux products are certified for centos and redhat variants only, but none of the debian-based distros |
| 20:45.43 | simonrvn | tuvwx: SHELL=/bin/bash then run the thing |
| 20:45.48 | Arrowmaster | no theres a different reason for that |
| 20:46.17 | tuvwx | simonrvn: it has '#!/bin/sh' at the top of every launcher script |
| 20:46.31 | axisys | In this file http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Setting_up_a_server_for_PXE_network_booting ..if I remove the vga=normal from the append line of the pxe configuration, will it show the menu in console? |
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| 20:46.53 | axisys | i am trying to install from console .. no vga |
| 20:47.10 | simonrvn | dunno... when i run a script using bash even when it has a hashbang set it runs it with bash |
| 20:47.51 | zinx | /bin/sh has historically been bash (but it runs in posix mode when invoked as 'sh') |
| 20:47.57 | zinx | i think it's recently been changed to dash in sid, though |
| 20:47.59 | axisys | i have not found an example configuration file that assumed no vga with pxe boot .. odd |
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| 20:48.10 | zinx | hmmm maybe not |
| 20:48.13 | simonrvn | squeeze too |
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| 20:48.51 | saivert | many shell scripts that stick to strict /bin/sh syntax now? |
| 20:48.57 | saivert | with most Linux distros coming with bash |
| 20:49.21 | stew | but yes if you run "bash /path/to/some/foo.sh" to run a script that erroneously has #!/bin/sh it will run as if it had #!/bin/bash |
| 20:49.28 | saivert | except Debian |
| 20:50.03 | justin | debian comes with bash |
| 20:50.22 | Bushmills | debian simply removed bashism from its system scripts |
| 20:50.38 | Bushmills | means, it doesn't depend on bash, and can use dash instead |
| 20:50.48 | stew | justin: it comes with dash too, and prompts if you want dash as the default /bin/sh (which is the default answer) |
| 20:50.56 | justin | yep |
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| 20:51.47 | jhutchins_lt | There is a Debian derivative that defaults to dash. |
| 20:52.01 | karlpinc | axisys: I pixeboot into console, but I forget what I did. It's just a kernel command option. (Probably intead of vga= you say 'console'.) |
| 20:52.30 | axisys | karlpinc: but is there a way to see the menu? |
| 20:52.52 | Bushmills | ask the waiter? |
| 20:53.16 | axisys | karlpinc: after you hit enter you see evrything in console with console=ttyS0,9600n8 .. but I am looking to see how to see the menu in serial port without blindly hitting the enter |
| 20:53.41 | karlpinc | axisys: To see the boot menu you fuss with the boot loader (syslinux? in pxe?) |
| 20:53.58 | karlpinc | axisys: I recall having issues. Lemme thinkk. |
| 20:54.17 | axisys | karlpinc: i think you have to say something in the syslinux to display the menu in console .. |
| 20:54.22 | axisys | but not quite sure.. |
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| 20:54.39 | axisys | karlpinc: something along this line |
| 20:54.41 | axisys | karlpinc: http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/SYSLINUX#SERIAL_port_.5B.5Bbaudrate.5D_flowcontrol.5D |
| 20:54.52 | axisys | karlpinc: not quite sure what the exact syntax is |
| 20:55.37 | karlpinc | axisys: I frobbed pxelinux.cfg.serial-115200/default lemme paste. |
| 20:55.48 | axisys | karlpinc: thanks |
| 20:55.55 | karlpinc | http://pastebin.com/qjPsnagX |
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| 20:56.18 | axisys | karlpinc: cool.. make sense .. thanks again |
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| 20:56.33 | karlpinc | axisys: You may or may not need to change CON |
| 20:56.36 | karlpinc | SOLE |
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| 20:57.08 | karlpinc | axisys: ( |
| 20:57.13 | axisys | If flag_val is 0, disable output to the normal video console. If flag_val is 1, enable output to the video console |
| 20:57.18 | axisys | CONSOLE flag_val |
| 20:57.19 | karlpinc | And I've a number of configs, so different directories.) |
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| 20:57.35 | axisys | If flag_val is 0, disable output to the normal video console. If flag_val is 1, enable output to the video console (this is the default.) |
| 20:57.54 | karlpinc | axisys: Right. But that's for whether or not you get vga output. My box had no vga card at all and the bios freaked if I told it there was one. |
| 20:58.06 | axisys | karlpinc: heh |
| 20:58.16 | axisys | karlpinc: wish we can use coreboot someday |
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| 20:59.53 | axisys | instead of those proprietory bios |
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| 21:01.26 | mohadib | im losing data using named pipes for IPC. Anyone know why this would happen? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4867780/linux-named-pipes-losing-data |
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| 21:02.23 | saivert | I stick to using google then for debian help. I'll probablly get lots of bad recommendations and my server will burst into fire.. have a nice one |
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| 21:02.35 | Enverex | Is there any way of getting the system to say, mount every drive in the machine to /media/(drive-ID) ? |
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| 21:04.12 | justin | mohadib: named pipes don't store an infinite amount of data |
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| 21:06.15 | Optic | jhutchins_lt: everything seems fine with my wifi except that I can't talk to any access points :( http://pastebin.com/XqxkJeLB |
| 21:06.46 | Optic | I don't understand why it works under slax but not under debian with the exact same configuration |
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| 21:10.04 | tuvwx | simonrvn: i set 'SHELL := /bin/bash' in my Makefile, which launches the software, but still get dash-related errors |
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| 21:11.36 | }dec3pti0n{ | is there a util/command in debian to make it boot from a specific kernel version ? I just install a kernel and it's #6 and the default is still set to 0 |
| 21:12.00 | justin | }dec3pti0n{: installed a kernel now? |
| 21:12.23 | }dec3pti0n{ | yeah I just installed it |
| 21:12.23 | mohadib | justin: right |
| 21:12.33 | justin | er, how? |
| 21:12.34 | mohadib | justin: thats why i read from the pipe |
| 21:14.11 | justin | try reading from the pipe via tail -f pipe |
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| 21:18.01 | mohadib | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.11 | mohadib | as mohadib would appear 1K times |
| 21:18.22 | mohadib | i get a number anywhere from 80-800 |
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| 21:20.33 | mohadib | yeah, its all over the place |
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| 21:21.32 | DelphiWorld | re... guy |
| 21:21.39 | DelphiWorld | s/guy/guys/ |
| 21:22.19 | DelphiWorld | anyone run voyage linux? |
| 21:22.53 | dimir | LULz |
| 21:22.55 | DelphiWorld | i have it booted but is read only... :( |
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| 21:23.21 | dimir | ? voyage linux |
| 21:23.25 | ElDiabolo | Hi. I had removed /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober. Then I asked dpkg -S /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober and got grub-common as the answer. Then I tried apt-get install --reinstall grub-common, but it did not bring me 30_os-prober back. Any hints. |
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| 21:23.38 | stew | ElDiabolo: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 21:24.24 | DelphiWorld | dimir: any idea? |
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| 21:24.35 | ElDiabolo | thx |
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| 21:25.06 | dimir | DelphiWorld: nope. I wouldn't use any noname linux. |
| 21:25.26 | DelphiWorld | dimir: this is a small box... alix board |
| 21:25.32 | DelphiWorld | dimir: i would by glad to run pure debian |
| 21:25.36 | chomwitt | in the dvd-label i cant understant what to place in the %VAR type . Shouldnt there be also a var for cd/dvd number? |
| 21:26.17 | dimir | DelphiWorld: sorry man, no idea. Never heard of that distro. |
| 21:26.27 | DelphiWorld | dimir: no problem |
| 21:26.32 | DelphiWorld | dimir: http://linux.voyage.hk/ |
| 21:26.47 | dimir | OK |
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| 21:27.37 | Optic | voyage linux is great |
| 21:27.40 | Optic | but rtfm |
| 21:27.46 | Optic | yes, it boots read-only |
| 21:29.00 | DelphiWorld | Optic: so how do i put my stufs? |
| 21:29.59 | DelphiWorld | Optic: please if any solution let me know... my alix driving me mad. |
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| 21:30.48 | EM03 | is exim4 stil lthe default mta for debian? |
| 21:31.18 | Optic | DelphiWorld: read this: http://linux.voyage.hk/content/getting-started-v06x |
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| 21:32.37 | DelphiWorld | thank you Optic |
| 21:33.01 | ElDiabolo | stew, actually some time ago I deleted /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf on purpose and it got reinstalled. So I think I should report this as a bug. |
| 21:33.13 | dutchfish | EM03: yes, if you mean when using an official d-i. |
| 21:33.17 | DelphiWorld | Optic: and wiki isn't up... http://wiki.voyage.hk |
| 21:33.35 | EM03 | dutchfish: courier the default as well for the imap server? |
| 21:33.52 | dimir | ? alix |
| 21:34.26 | dutchfish | EM03: yes see http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/imap-server |
| 21:34.36 | EM03 | all i wanted to know hehe |
| 21:34.57 | dutchfish | EM03: it can easely be changed however |
| 21:35.05 | EM03 | yea i know |
| 21:35.09 | EM03 | exim4 and courier is good though |
| 21:35.12 | dutchfish | k |
| 21:35.33 | EM03 | although qmail and dovecot is more cool :) |
| 21:35.58 | DelphiWorld | Optic: you rock. |
| 21:36.08 | DelphiWorld | dimir: i have to do: remountrw |
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| 21:37.35 | stew | ElDiabolo: report what as a bug? |
| 21:37.57 | Optic | delphi: you'll like voyage, it's reliable and easy to manage |
| 21:38.22 | DelphiWorld | Optic: i'm allready happy. |
| 21:38.24 | Optic | I just wish my wifi would work in debian *sobs* |
| 21:38.34 | DelphiWorld | Optic: what shipset? |
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| 21:38.57 | Optic | intel 3945, works perfectly in slax, I'm not sure what the difference is |
| 21:39.18 | stew | ElDiabolo: /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober is a conffile and /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf is not, which is why these are being handled differently |
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| 21:39.45 | stew | ElDiabolo: if the bug you are talking about is that its not reinstalling 30_os-prober when you DON'T specify confmiss then this is not a bug, this is by design |
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| 21:41.05 | DelphiWorld | Optic: you opened for me the door. |
| 21:41.10 | DelphiWorld | Optic: but i couldn't sleep today! |
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| 21:49.23 | DelphiWorld | Optic: :O :O :O |
| 21:49.48 | ElDiabolo | stew, No, the bug I want to report is that 10-evdev.conf should be considered a conf file. |
| 21:50.40 | ElDiabolo | But maybe thats too picky .... |
| 21:51.25 | stew | ElDiabolo: its definitely not a conffile |
| 21:51.45 | stew | well |
| 21:51.59 | ElDiabolo | stew, because its in /usr/share ? |
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| 21:52.52 | stew | well if it is a configuration file it need to be in /etc |
| 21:53.03 | stew | and if it is, they can decide if the also want to make it a conffile |
| 21:53.12 | stew | but perhaps it not being in /etc/ is a bug |
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| 21:54.52 | ElDiabolo | stew, I still need to understand, what 10-evdev.conf actually does. Maybe I'll see. |
| 21:55.29 | JasonWoof | hi, I'm running sid, and I'd like to try a kernel from experimental (2.6.37). Aptitude tells me that to do this I'll have to upgrade linux-base also. 1) can linux-base be easily downgraded after? 2) will my normal sid kernel (2.6.32) run with the experimental linux-base (2.6.37)? |
| 21:58.07 | stew | JasonWoof: have you looked at the contents of that package? |
| 21:58.45 | JasonWoof | stew: no |
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| 21:59.03 | JasonWoof | oh, hehe |
| 21:59.11 | JasonWoof | I think it will be compatible :) |
| 21:59.25 | stew | yaeh,its a single shell script and its manpage |
| 21:59.33 | JasonWoof | lol |
| 21:59.39 | JasonWoof | "linux-base" sounds so important |
| 22:00.30 | jhutchins_lt | JasonWoof: Why would it matter if you're running sid anyway? It's not like it's a production system. |
| 22:01.20 | stew | ? |
| 22:01.47 | stew | even non-production systems need kernels |
| 22:01.54 | JasonWoof | jhutchins_lt: it's not production, but I still like it to boot |
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| 22:02.20 | JasonWoof | I now have renewed confidence that I can still boot my current kernel |
| 22:03.00 | varlon | hi, I need a backup system with client-server acrhitecture and with support of encryption. Does exists some like this in debian? |
| 22:03.03 | bocaneri | They don't need kernels, they just need emacs. |
| 22:03.03 | jhutchins_lt | You'd always snapshot a working sid install before you updated something anyway, wouldn't you? |
| 22:03.14 | stew | i sure wouldn't |
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| 22:04.50 | JasonWoof | jhutchins_lt: with bttrfs? |
| 22:05.10 | jhutchins_lt | Why would the filesystem matter? |
| 22:05.25 | JasonWoof | jhutchins_lt: because bttrfs supports snapshoting |
| 22:06.33 | JasonWoof | varlon: you don't nessesarily need one program that does both the networking and the encryption. for example you could use an encrypted partition, or a loop filesystem like encfs. Then for the networking and incrementalnes you could use something else, like rsync |
| 22:06.41 | jhutchins_lt | I did snapshots of the NTFS partitions on this netbook before I blew 'em away. |
| 22:07.37 | JasonWoof | jhutchins_lt: by "snapshots" you mean something like dd if=/dev/hdsomething of=/media/huge-drive/today.img? |
| 22:08.00 | varlon | JasonWoof, understood, but I think that exists some complete backup system with encryption support |
| 22:08.17 | JasonWoof | varlon: yeah, probably |
| 22:08.23 | jhutchins_lt | JasonWoof: That's what I've always done, yeah. |
| 22:08.47 | JasonWoof | jhutchins_lt: I've done that. but don't think I will now. |
| 22:09.09 | JasonWoof | and now I reboot to give it a try. thanks for the tip! |
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| 22:20.07 | varlon | can anybody tell what is good think to use bacula for backups? |
| 22:21.30 | valdyn | varlon: if you have to ask then bacular is probably not for you |
| 22:21.35 | valdyn | *bacula* |
| 22:21.42 | varlon | why? |
| 22:21.54 | pipeline | varlon: bacula is a very nice product, but the documentation is less than wonderful. Count on some trial and error :) |
| 22:22.11 | varlon | hmmm |
| 22:22.14 | valdyn | varlon: because bacula is a huge complex beast for huge complex use cases |
| 22:22.42 | varlon | can I find some alternative? |
| 22:22.51 | valdyn | varlon: for *what* |
| 22:23.01 | pipeline | varlon: there's always amanda |
| 22:23.29 | pipeline | varlon: don't let valdyn scare you away from bacula. It's no worse than your average backup product, and in many ways better. |
| 22:23.38 | varlon | for clien-server backup system and it's will be very nice if this system will support encryption of backup |
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| 22:24.24 | varlon | I have a few projects on few servers. I need backup sources and data |
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| 22:24.39 | valdyn | varlon: what are you trying to back up? a few linux servers? |
| 22:24.56 | valdyn | varlon: or are you actually trying to back up the databases running on those servers? |
| 22:25.03 | varlon | no, folders with python code, databases and mercurial repos |
| 22:25.58 | valdyn | varlon: I think backuppc is easier than bacula. |
| 22:25.59 | varlon | when I say data, I mean a databases, images, sounds, code (py/js/css) |
| 22:26.01 | a-l-e | hi... i m trying to modify my keyboard layout on debian testing... no chance until now... |
| 22:26.52 | a-l-e | with dpkg-reconfigure console-data i can choose the correct layout, but, then, i can t use it |
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| 22:27.32 | a-l-e | any idea? |
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| 22:28.53 | valdyn | !keymap |
| 22:28.54 | dpkg | Lenny users: To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" (use loadkeys for once-only/temporary adjustments). To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" and ask me about <drxx>; gnome-control-center and kcontrol can also be used. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. Squeeze users: run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" for both console and X. |
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| 22:30.33 | a-l-e | yep, keyboard-configuration shows the wrong one... |
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| 22:31.35 | pozic | Is 'see' a Debian specific command? |
| 22:32.38 | varlon | valdyn, thanks, I will try you advice |
| 22:32.40 | a-l-e | valdyn: it didn-t work... |
| 22:33.21 | a-l-e | i could choose my keyboard... but i don-t get correct keys... i guess i-ll try to restart x... |
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| 22:37.23 | solars | hey, is there some kind of tool for conveniently handling xrandr when connecting a second screen or beamer? I am tired of doing this manually |
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| 22:38.35 | a-l-e | voilà , valdyn, rebooting solved the problem! |
| 22:38.36 | a-l-e | thanks |
| 22:39.05 | a-l-e | (dpkg-reconf keyb + rebooting...) |
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| 22:43.56 | CeR_abg | hi |
| 22:44.04 | topgun21 | hy the hecjk haven't the package maintainers for debian put the newst python vriant in the maintraem repositories |
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| 22:45.03 | CeR_abg | i dont know why debian squeeze doesn't ask my user pass wen logic via gdm, either when doing a $su in a grafic-terminal inside my gdm session. This is unsafe to me. Any idea? |
| 22:47.01 | CeR_abg | I want my debian to ask my userpassword when login via gdm3, but at the moment this doesn't happen. Any idea? |
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| 22:47.42 | CeR_abg | i just log-in without any security |
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| 22:48.57 | CeR_abg | maybe a #aptitude upgrade changed it in the past, but now I don't know what package may be doing this |
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| 22:49.19 | Arrowmaster | topgun21: squeeze is going to be released with python2.6 |
| 22:50.15 | _jesse_ | hey all; I'm wondering if it's able to run RAID on top of LVM (or if that doesn't makes sense). Essentially I have two 1TB drives and one 2TB drives that I want to run as RAID1 with the two 1TB drives being seen as one |
| 22:50.45 | _jesse_ | searching just yeilds multitudes of articles on how to use LVM on top of RAID |
| 22:50.56 | _jesse_ | *yields |
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| 22:51.26 | piercedwater | hi |
| 22:51.38 | Arrowmaster | _jesse_: you could create two partitions on the 2TB, and create two 1TB raids and put LVM on top of those |
| 22:51.50 | CeR_abg | may this help? from /var/log/auth.log --- gdm-session-worker[4455]: gkr-pam: no password is available for user |
| 22:51.52 | piercedwater | I'm looking for a deb package of Handbrake .95-CLI. Anyone know where I can find one? |
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| 22:52.08 | Arrowmaster | piercedwater: check debian-multimedia.org? |
| 22:52.12 | piercedwater | ye |
| 22:52.13 | _jesse_ | Arrowmaster: I don't know why I didn't think of that; thank you :) |
| 22:52.13 | piercedwater | yes |
| 22:52.19 | piercedwater | Arrowmaster: its outdated :( |
| 22:52.40 | eldowan | piercedwater: handbrake is easy to compile. why not just compile locally, and put the ghb in ~/.bin or something? |
| 22:52.57 | piercedwater | I came from Ubuntu, if that tells you anything |
| 22:53.15 | OpenTokix | Arrowmaster: Also, remeber to give the stripe-argument on your LV's s it will be distributed over the two raids. |
| 22:53.19 | piercedwater | so, if i had a tutorial on how to compile and fufill dependencies i would |
| 22:54.38 | eldowan | piercedwater: have you looked here: https://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/CompileOnLinux |
| 22:55.20 | _jesse_ | OpenTokix: hmm? |
| 22:55.31 | piercedwater | thanks eldowan |
| 22:55.35 | eldowan | piercedwater: that's how i've been doing handbrake for the past year or so. I needed something newer than the repo had installed or something, i forget |
| 22:55.44 | piercedwater | ahh |
| 22:55.56 | eldowan | It's pretty straightforward. After the compile, you'll have ghb (the actual app) |
| 22:56.15 | eldowan | Once you find it, you can test by cd path/to/ghb and doing . ./ghb |
| 22:56.50 | piercedwater | k |
| 22:56.52 | eldowan | I usually put it in ~/bin and put ~/bin in my path, so I can access it from wherever. That'll only work for your one user though. There's other places you can put it for system wide use. |
| 22:57.07 | OpenTokix | _jesse_: you have a option when you create the LV. - As stripe, and if you use it over the pv's in you LVM, the LV will be distributed over alla PV's - otherwise PVs will be filled up chronologically |
| 22:59.07 | _jesse_ | OpenTokix: aah I see, I don't remember seeing that in the installer menu (doing a clean install), but I'll look for it. Otherwise I assume I can configure it post-install |
| 22:59.16 | _jesse_ | makes sense though |
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| 23:01.34 | nick_h | when i try to run screen, it fails with "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check." |
| 23:01.52 | phoul | Hey guys, my wireless randomly kicks off when "powersave" it turned on for iwconfig, when i run iwconfig wlan0 power off it stops doing that, im wondering if theres a way to make this automatically happen instead of having to manually run it on boot |
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| 23:02.02 | OpenTokix | _jesse_: I havent created a striped LV from installer |
| 23:02.08 | CeR_abg | hi |
| 23:02.10 | nick_h | /dev/pts/0 already exists, and is owned by a different user. why would screen try to open /dev/pts/0 instead of a new pts? |
| 23:02.35 | OpenTokix | _jesse_: not like you usually need awesome IO from / or /usr - usally some other partition where you have the data-files. |
| 23:02.38 | CeR_abg | anyone knows why debian squeeze may dont ask for root pass? |
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| 23:02.42 | DodgeThis | can anyone help me with xen? |
| 23:03.48 | CeR_abg | DodgeThis: what is your problem? |
| 23:04.22 | DodgeThis | i'm getting my air off with xen lolol |
| 23:04.31 | phoul | Does anyone know if iwconfig has a configuration file anywhere on the system |
| 23:04.32 | DodgeThis | i did make world |
| 23:04.50 | DodgeThis | and make kernels KERNELS="linux-2.6-xen0 linux-2.6-xenU" |
| 23:05.41 | DodgeThis | but now grub is givinme problems |
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| 23:06.14 | DodgeThis | how can fix this |
| 23:07.14 | CeR_abg | DodgeThis: you must not start VMs from grub. You have to start the dom0, running with a kernel&hypervisor and then start each domU machine. Just forgive the grub entries for VMs |
| 23:07.55 | DodgeThis | how can i fix this? |
| 23:08.10 | DodgeThis | i only did update-grub |
| 23:08.29 | CeR_abg | DodgeThis: you mean update-grub2? |
| 23:08.40 | cafaro | Could anyone pastebin the default apache2 lenny config? [/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default] |
| 23:08.40 | DodgeThis | yes |
| 23:08.48 | DodgeThis | no |
| 23:08.50 | DodgeThis | update-grub |
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| 23:09.28 | CeR_abg | DodgeThis: try update-grub2; but I repeat: you have to start the dom0 machine before anyother domU |
| 23:09.38 | _jesse_ | OpenTokix: haha yeah, I have a 120gb drive I'm using for boot; the RAID is for /home |
| 23:09.47 | CeR_abg | cafaro: I could give you squeeze |
| 23:09.55 | cafaro | CeR_abg: ok |
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| 23:11.04 | DodgeThis | somthing like this multiboot /boot/xen.gz dom0_mem=256M??? |
| 23:11.24 | DodgeThis | on grub menu? |
| 23:11.32 | CeR_abg | cafaro: http://pastebin.com/6gQXESdu <-- i think you have it in debian-package docs already in your machine with the apache2 installation |
| 23:12.01 | CeR_abg | DodgeThis: i have no idea what is your problem... |
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| 23:12.53 | CeR_abg | anybody knows why debian squeeze doesn't ask for root or user password? |
| 23:12.54 | DodgeThis | can boot with xen kernel |
| 23:13.03 | DodgeThis | can't boot with xen kernel |
| 23:13.43 | cafaro | CeR_abg: ok thanks |
| 23:14.02 | CeR_abg | DodgeThis: any error message? |
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| 23:14.07 | Arrowmaster | CeR_abg: where exactly is it not asking? |
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| 23:14.27 | CeR_abg | Arrowmaster: anywhere: gdm3, terminal, tty, pts... |
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| 23:15.46 | CeR_abg | Arrowmaster: this is the first time ever i see this |
| 23:15.55 | DodgeThis | it reboots |
| 23:16.46 | iaj | Hm, how could I find out whether my computer is 64bit? |
| 23:17.03 | CeR_abg | iaj: proccesor model ? |
| 23:17.32 | iaj | model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz |
| 23:17.43 | Arrowmaster | uname -m |
| 23:18.11 | iaj | i686 |
| 23:18.19 | tarzeau | iaj: the linux installation is not 64bit |
| 23:18.42 | tarzeau | iaj: how much memory do you have installed? |
| 23:18.47 | iaj | tarzeau: my problem is.. it only accepts 4 gig, even tho I installed 12 gig of RAM today, and I need it to run :\ |
| 23:18.51 | tarzeau | iaj: you'd try to install 64bit linux and then find out :) |
| 23:19.10 | tarzeau | iaj: (or run a 64-bit linux distro) like livecd.gnustep.org from cd:) |
| 23:19.12 | iaj | tarzeau: well... I have to reinstall in order for it to work? |
| 23:19.16 | daemonkeeper | iaj: You need a kernel with PAE to have more than 3.2G RAM on x86 |
| 23:19.16 | tarzeau | iaj: yes |
| 23:19.17 | Arrowmaster | iaj: switch to a bigmem kernel |
| 23:19.29 | tarzeau | i'd go for 64-bit linux anyways |
| 23:19.30 | daemonkeeper | i.e. a -bigmen kernel |
| 23:19.36 | iaj | Is it hard to switch to a bigmem kernel? |
| 23:19.39 | daemonkeeper | No |
| 23:19.42 | tarzeau | iaj: no it's like install and reboot |
| 23:19.43 | Arrowmaster | no you just install it and reboot |
| 23:19.43 | daemonkeeper | Just install it |
| 23:19.46 | CeR_abg | DodgeThis: you should have a line like that in your grub: Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 and XEN 4.0-amd64 |
| 23:19.48 | iaj | haha.. |
| 23:19.58 | iaj | you 3 are funny :) you should go to a comedy show :) |
| 23:20.02 | iaj | thanks a lot! |
| 23:20.09 | iaj | how could I find out which one to install? |
| 23:20.19 | daemonkeeper | The one that ends with -bigmem ... |
| 23:20.43 | CeR_abg | xDD |
| 23:20.46 | Arrowmaster | linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem |
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| 23:21.48 | tarzeau | the sorting is broken isn't it? http://r4400.ethz.ch/xosview.png |
| 23:22.03 | CeR_abg | anybody knows why debian squeeze doesn't ask for root or user password? I have rare lines in /var/log/auth.log like this ---> gdm-session-worker[5706]: gkr-pam: no password is available for user |
| 23:22.08 | iaj | Thanks a lot mates! |
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| 23:23.02 | Arrowmaster | CeR_abg: have you tried setting a new password with passwd |
| 23:23.23 | CeR_abg | Arrowmaster: sure. Isn't working. |
| 23:23.33 | Arrowmaster | no useful error from that? |
| 23:23.37 | DodgeThis | yes |
| 23:23.45 | DodgeThis | Cer_abg |
| 23:24.21 | DodgeThis | now it give /bin/sh : can't acees tty: job control turned off |
| 23:24.22 | CeR_abg | Arrowmaster: no, it prints the screen like i already changed the pass, but really not.... even it doesn't ask for the old pass |
| 23:25.22 | CeR_abg | DodgeThis: is your HD well set? |
| 23:25.38 | jhutchins_lt | I wonder how you tell skype to use iceweasel instead of konqueror. |
| 23:25.51 | DodgeThis | yes |
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| 23:26.16 | DodgeThis | i think so root=/dev/md2 |
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| 23:27.08 | CeR_abg | jhutchins_lt: maybe your default browser for the system is konqueror? I dont know any reason to have konqueror installed if you already have iceweasel |
| 23:27.25 | jhutchins_lt | CeR_abg: It's part of kde. |
| 23:27.47 | jhutchins_lt | It used to be a really good browser, but they've neglected it and it's become a self-fulfilling failure. |
| 23:27.49 | CeR_abg | jhutchins_lt: o... kde.. i'm sorry. I only know gnome.. >_< |
| 23:27.54 | DodgeThis | some times give me no ownder |
| 23:28.47 | CeR_abg | DodgeThis: i'm sorry. I use to use libvirt/KVM. Can't do more for you without being in front the machine.. |
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| 23:29.21 | CeR_abg | good nigth from spain! |
| 23:29.36 | NiveusLuna | okay, this is ticking me o...ff... rssi keeps freezing. |
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| 23:29.50 | DodgeThis | ok |
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| 23:30.23 | NiveusLuna | *irssi |
| 23:30.36 | NiveusLuna | growls. |
| 23:30.50 | NiveusLuna | everything else works perfectly |
| 23:31.05 | NiveusLuna | there's very low load on the cpu, plenty of memory... |
| 23:31.22 | NiveusLuna | yet it freezes for half a minute at a time or more. |
| 23:31.34 | NiveusLuna | several times in five minutes |
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| 23:32.00 | iaj | Worked flawlessly with bigmem - thanks a lot mates! |
| 23:32.08 | Bushmills | network congestion? |
| 23:33.32 | NiveusLuna | Bushmills: can't be. I'm on an SSH connection from the same LAN, there's no lag in ssh. i can switch between windows in screen an dd do other work just fine. it's just irssi. |
| 23:35.07 | Bushmills | running on a virtual server? |
| 23:35.49 | NiveusLuna | nope. dual PII machine with 384 MB memory, two 10 GB hard disks. |
| 23:36.08 | NiveusLuna | personal dedi. |
| 23:36.37 | DodgeThis | CeR_abg! mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18.8-xen 2.6.18.8-xen |
| 23:36.37 | DodgeThis | < what does this? |
| 23:36.38 | Bushmills | scsi disks, adaptec controller? |
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| 23:37.38 | NiveusLuna | IDE disks, not sure what the controller is. How do I check that. |
| 23:38.01 | Bushmills | lspci, but don't bother |
| 23:38.33 | jhutchins_lt | I-70's closed across Missouri. |
| 23:38.34 | darkskiez | heh the latest nightly build of the debian squeeze installer still mentions lenny. |
| 23:38.39 | jhutchins_lt | Erp, sorrry. |
| 23:38.44 | darkskiez | getting a bit tight |
| 23:38.59 | stew | NiveusLuna: you are running it in screen with more than one thing connected to the screen? |
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| 23:39.26 | NiveusLuna | stew: yes. but even with no other windows in screen, it freezes. |
| 23:40.04 | stew | NiveusLuna: no, doesn't matter how many windows, it matters how many things are connected (with, for instance, screen -x) |
| 23:40.53 | NiveusLuna | stew: just irssi and a bash session. |
| 23:41.39 | stew | NiveusLuna: i don't care how many windows, it could be just irssi or irssi and bash or irssi and 12 bash windows |
| 23:41.55 | stew | NiveusLuna: what matters is whether or not you are connected to the screen multiply |
| 23:42.06 | stew | like in two different terminals or with two different ssh sessions |
| 23:42.09 | NiveusLuna | stew: I am not. Just one computer. |
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| 23:43.56 | stew | ok, because that is what USED to make irssi freeze all the time |
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| 23:44.58 | stew | NiveusLuna: its not xon/xoff flow control, is it? (like hitting ctrl-s or ctrl-a ctrl-s) |
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| 23:45.30 | NiveusLuna | stew: i don't know what that is. |
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| 23:46.22 | planet8 | How do I automate this command: modprobe -r snd-intel8x0 ; modprobe snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=1 xbox=1 |
| 23:46.37 | planet8 | I need it to automatically run upon boot |
| 23:48.01 | rudi_s | planet8: If there's no other way /etc/rc.local, but you should add it to /etc/modules |
| 23:48.29 | planet8 | rudi_s, the "-r" part can it be added to modules? |
| 23:48.37 | rudi_s | planet8: No. |
| 23:48.41 | rudi_s | But the options can. |
| 23:49.01 | planet8 | It doesn't work unless it is removed first for some reason |
| 23:49.07 | NiveusLuna | grr. did it again. |
| 23:49.19 | rudi_s | planet8: I'm not sure how to prevent loading a module. Then put the command in rc.local. |
| 23:49.36 | zrin | is there a way to find corresponding device name for an ata port, like ata6 ... sdf? |
| 23:49.48 | planet8 | Have to be sure rc is loaded before modules.. thanks |
| 23:50.03 | rudi_s | np |
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| 23:53.02 | Agiofws | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nTPX4JW_Ts |
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| 23:56.31 | NiveusLuna | what's the command to view what's using the network? |
| 23:57.18 | petemc | netstat -puant is one way |
| 23:59.01 | abrotman | what's using? like using bandwidth? |
