| 00:00.19 | ibrahim | i did. and so many things there which i can't get. |
| 00:00.19 | linoge | babilen: :P |
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| 00:00.52 | babilen | linoge: the kernel+udev upgrade will break the upgrade ... you probably used a newer kernel before |
| 00:01.13 | babilen | ibrahim: What exactly is unclear? Which section? Which step? |
| 00:01.24 | linoge | babilen: oh, i thought you were speaking about the ':.,$ s/lenny/squeeze/g' in vim |
| 00:01.27 | linoge | lol |
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| 00:01.58 | linoge | babilen: haven't used debian in a while, apparently BIOS don't get along with it :( |
| 00:02.17 | babilen | linoge: No I am speaking about your "and then update & upgrade" update procedure |
| 00:02.22 | ibrahim | babilen: it's just too long. |
| 00:02.27 | ibrahim | 2:02AM here. :) |
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| 00:04.23 | babilen | ibrahim: Then sleep and work on it tomorrow. |
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| 00:06.46 | linoge | ibrahim: how would it be done? |
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| 00:08.37 | babilen | linoge: how would what be done? |
| 00:08.41 | ibrahim | i don't know, it would be great if debian shows me "there is a new version of debian, they called it squeeze now, do you want to install it?" i click on yes and all goes in seconds. |
| 00:09.07 | ibrahim | whatever, maybe i think to install a fresh squeeze version.. |
| 00:09.21 | alexxio | now it says mysql has started, but php has errors |
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| 00:09.35 | babilen | ibrahim: yes. it is not *that* easy ... let us know once you have that implemented as Debian is definitely interested in those patches |
| 00:09.40 | Tasser | how do I bootstrap a debian from a non-debian? MAKEDEV seems to be required :-/ |
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| 00:10.18 | amphi | !debtakeover |
| 00:10.18 | dpkg | i guess debtakeover is Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian (woody, not sarge! Use DEFAULT_SUITE=woody and upgrade from there) for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/ . You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
| 00:10.24 | babilen | Tasser: debootstrap |
| 00:10.36 | babilen | woody? |
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| 00:10.41 | amphi | that seems somewhat long in the tooth now |
| 00:10.42 | amphi | ;) |
| 00:10.58 | babilen | !tell Tasser about debootstrap |
| 00:11.25 | babilen | Tasser: The procedure is detailed in the install guide -- /msg dpkg install guide |
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| 00:15.22 | buntunub | Whats a good firewall frontend for KDE |
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| 00:16.21 | babilen | buntunub: https://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls |
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| 00:16.42 | Tasser | babilen, I still get |
| 00:16.44 | Tasser | E: no /tmp/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz. cannot create devices |
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| 00:19.40 | stew | Tasser: is /tmp mounted with nodev? |
| 00:19.52 | Tasser | hmm |
| 00:20.17 | Tasser | nope |
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| 00:22.03 | alexxio | this update from lenny to squeeze was not so easy ... :( |
| 00:22.20 | alexxio | why all my apache/mysql/php config was rewritten?? :(( |
| 00:22.28 | ajikeshi__ | O_o |
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| 00:22.39 | alexxio | now it can't load mysqli |
| 00:22.47 | ajikeshi__ | alexxio, most likely because you told apt that it should exchange your cfg for the ones from the maintainer |
| 00:22.48 | alexxio | but it was working till yeasterday :( |
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| 00:23.05 | ajikeshi__ | lol... yeasterday... i must remember that pun :D |
| 00:23.07 | alexxio | i remeber i told to leave mine |
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| 00:23.11 | buntunub | hey on base squeeze install is Iptables leaving all ports open? |
| 00:23.17 | aguitel | are squeeze volatile avaleable ? |
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| 00:23.47 | Coded | is compiz still the best choice for eye candy? |
| 00:23.51 | buntunub | iptables -L shows accept on all |
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| 00:24.56 | WormFood | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.08 | buntunub | http://wiki.debian.org/iptables also agrees with this... thats aweful disturbing that Debian leaves everyones system wide open to attack on a fresh install |
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| 00:26.56 | daemonkeeper | buntunub: And where is the actual problem with that? |
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| 00:27.26 | buntunub | lol.. daemonkeeper thinks leaving all your ports open is OK |
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| 00:27.55 | daemonkeeper | Stop trolling. You don't risk anything unless you open a listening connection. |
| 00:28.18 | daemonkeeper | And /if/ you do, why would you firewall it? |
| 00:28.26 | buntunub | im not trolling i asked the question and you message me with crap |
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| 00:28.57 | WormFood | buntunub, that is not all, they also have proxies that by default are an open proxy to the world....their default settings are not always sane |
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| 00:29.11 | DanDare | There are tons of references on internet but can anyone point me to good documentation about "making .deb packages" ? |
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| 00:29.22 | daemonkeeper | DanDare: The new maintainers guide |
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| 00:29.36 | DanDare | thanks |
| 00:29.38 | daemonkeeper | http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
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| 00:30.05 | buntunub | thanks wormfood i will research a bit more into how to properly secure Debian but any help or point me in the right direction is appreciated |
| 00:30.18 | daemonkeeper | There is a securing Debian Howto |
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| 00:30.53 | buntunub | ill look at that |
| 00:31.09 | WormFood | securing debian is no different than any other distro....unless you want to count the numerous debian induced changes |
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| 00:31.19 | daemonkeeper | Nonetheless you don't risk anything by having a default ACCEPT policy. |
| 00:31.34 | daemonkeeper | What do you want to expose to the public, what isn't listening? |
| 00:31.36 | WormFood | and as far as IP tables leaving "everything open"....it is not a problem if you're not doing stupid stuff |
| 00:31.37 | buntunub | except you leave all your ports open ... |
| 00:31.53 | daemonkeeper | Ports aren't open. |
| 00:32.02 | daemonkeeper | Ports are open if you open a listening socket. |
| 00:32.16 | WormFood | buntunub, ports open and connected to what service?....like daemonkeeper said |
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| 00:32.37 | buntunub | there is a mailserver i noticed running on this base install |
| 00:32.52 | WormFood | even my firewall does not use iptables for anything more than masquarade and port forwarding |
| 00:32.55 | buntunub | seems to be sending mail to root |
| 00:33.14 | WormFood | wow buntunub....did you just start playing with linux today? |
| 00:33.20 | daemonkeeper | So? |
| 00:33.49 | WormFood | it is funny how people that don't know anything about a system, are so paranoid about the things they don't understand |
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| 00:34.04 | dondelelcaro | buntunub: you pretty much need an MTA; a reasonable default one is one that does local delivery, like exim4. If you don't want one, install something like nullmailer instead. |
| 00:34.17 | WormFood | yes, thousands of people worked on this, and YOU are the first one to notice that iptables in it's default setting leaves all your ports open to attack |
| 00:34.19 | buntunub | its funny how you assume anything about someone you dont even know |
| 00:34.45 | daemonkeeper | dondelelcaro: Moreover exim listens on localhost by default ... |
| 00:34.51 | dondelelcaro | buntunub: but as far as securing goes, there really isn't much of a guide. Only run what you need, set up rules appropriate to what you're doing, etc. |
| 00:35.11 | dondelelcaro | daemonkeeper: it depends which debconf options you give it |
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| 00:35.15 | WormFood | buntunub, do an "netstat -nlp" to see what ports are really open, on what address, by what program |
| 00:35.51 | daemonkeeper | dondelelcaro: Yes. |
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| 00:36.11 | WormFood | buntunub, you're getting all freaked out about stuff you don't understand....there are no problems here...nothing to see, move along |
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| 00:36.52 | dondelelcaro | WormFood: please try be a little bit less antagonistic |
| 00:37.17 | Gryllida | feeds WormFood to a few worms |
| 00:37.21 | WormFood | sorry dondelelcaro, I'm not trying to antagonize |
| 00:37.28 | Gryllida | blah, s'ok |
| 00:37.52 | WormFood | just amused about how someone is freaking out over stuff that is normal and you want, just because they are ignorant about unix systems |
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| 00:39.24 | daemonkeeper | WormFood, we got you. |
| 00:39.39 | buntunub | I wasnt trying to come across as being "freaked out" as you put it but I asked a question because I dont know much about security |
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| 00:40.05 | linoge | oh no, there's something moving all through my desktop :O! It seems to know when i move the mouse, cause it goes in that direction o.O.... AHHHHHHH |
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| 00:40.19 | linoge | pfff... just the pointer |
| 00:40.27 | buntunub | you guys answer by attacking me.. thanks |
| 00:40.36 | WormFood | you were doing more than just asking questions about security....you were exclaiming about how debian's default settings leaves you open to attack, and it does not |
| 00:41.06 | buntunub | no i stated that iptables -L shows accept on all |
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| 00:41.16 | WormFood | if you really want to secure your system, you'll need to do a bit of reading, and you need to understand how things work |
| 00:41.18 | buntunub | i dont know if thats bad or good |
| 00:41.29 | daemonkeeper | And we told you this is no security related problem. Yet you claim to know better. |
| 00:41.42 | buntunub | accept on all for a firewall strikes me as being not right |
| 00:41.57 | alexxio | i get this: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/sqlite3.so, but my folder is 20090626+lfs!! wha'ts that?? |
| 00:41.58 | WormFood | [08:31:37] <buntunub> except you leave all your ports open ... <-- wrong |
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| 00:42.32 | daemonkeeper | I won't repeat again what both, WormFood and me told you about listening sockets. |
| 00:42.33 | wizardman2 | i have a strange request, i want to delete all lines of my text file that does not contain elephant, giraffe, hippo , the text file is 1 gig in size, how can i do this? |
| 00:42.36 | WormFood | buntunub, if you're setting up a firewall, then it is up to you to configure it the way you want. The debian maintainers can not do everything for you |
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| 00:42.56 | daemonkeeper | wizardman2: sed(1) |
| 00:43.03 | buntunub | i didnt ask you to do anything for me wormfood |
| 00:43.09 | wizardman2 | daemonkeeper: i just type sec |
| 00:43.13 | wizardman2 | daemonkeeper: sed |
| 00:43.17 | WormFood | daemonkeeper, I think he understands that now, as he hasn't repeated it, I was just pointing out that he is doing more than just asking questions |
| 00:43.19 | wizardman2 | daemonkeeper: thats amazing |
| 00:43.39 | wizardman2 | daemonkeeper: its not working |
| 00:43.41 | buntunub | the simple answer is just to say that having iptables show accept on all is fine and normal |
| 00:43.49 | buntunub | done |
| 00:43.54 | buntunub | everyone happy |
| 00:44.00 | WormFood | maybe that isn't fine and normal for what you want/need |
| 00:44.16 | daemonkeeper | wizardman2: Well, you need a bit more :) |
| 00:44.23 | wizardman2 | damn |
| 00:44.35 | WormFood | it is up to your needs...also there are some firewall scripts in debian, that you may want to check out |
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| 00:45.00 | daemonkeeper | wizardman2: look on sed's -i switch and its description about regular expressions |
| 00:45.12 | WormFood | buntunub, do you know about firestarter? |
| 00:45.26 | buntunub | yes i think firestarter is no longer maintained |
| 00:45.51 | WormFood | really? I don't use it, but I know about it |
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| 00:46.14 | buntunub | yes i read that a while back somewhere |
| 00:46.54 | WormFood | then I would expect it to have branched, or some other project took over it's role |
| 00:46.54 | daemonkeeper | There are a lot of firewall scripts around |
| 00:46.58 | buntunub | not 100% on that tho |
| 00:47.18 | WormFood | check it out, because I suspect it is what you want for your firewall, or something similar |
| 00:47.26 | buntunub | http://www.fs-security.com/ guess i was wrong :P |
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| 00:48.33 | WormFood | I think that will give you the network security you want, on a general level (obviously it won't secure your services, if you're running something insecure, but can block access to it) |
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| 00:50.51 | WormFood | buntunub, as far as an email server being installed by default and sending mail to root.....that is how the system communicates with you sometimes....cron has no console for you, so where does it send the output from commands run by cron? it emails them to you....the default email server is internal, not on the internet (unless you configure it that way) |
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| 00:51.20 | WormFood | I hope that clears up some confusion for you.... |
| 00:51.50 | WormFood | I gotta go to the store with my girlfriend....see ya'll l8r åè§ |
| 00:52.04 | buntunub | yes thanks i will do more research on security and if I need to do anything more than default iptables settings |
| 00:52.36 | karlpinc | buntunub: And, sending mail out from a box is not a security problem. |
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| 00:53.07 | monkeyboy42 | When using the Debian 5.0.8 i386 netinstall iso, are there any valid mirrors that I can select for packages? |
| 00:53.29 | karlpinc | monkeyboy42: Sure, all of them. But why install 5 when you can install 6? |
| 00:53.40 | monkeyboy42 | I tried 6 and had problems running Xen |
| 00:53.41 | WormFood | karlpinc, unless your email server is accepting mail from a 3rd party ;) |
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| 00:53.53 | _314 | how do I know which version of debian I have installed? |
| 00:54.03 | karlpinc | WormFood: Sending mail out is not "accepting mail", it's sending mail. |
| 00:54.04 | WormFood | and then, it still isn't a "security problem" then |
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| 00:54.32 | karlpinc | _314: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:54.46 | WormFood | the mail had to come from somewhere :P |
| 00:54.55 | _314 | karlpinc, ty |
| 00:55.16 | daemonkeeper | lsb_release -a may be more appropriate |
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| 00:56.14 | _314 | I have the radeon x300 gpu in my dell laptop, for accelerated 3d should I use the radeon driver or the proprietary ? |
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| 00:56.54 | daemonkeeper | !fglrx |
| 00:56.55 | dpkg | [fglrx] "FireGL and Radeon for X", the AMD/ATI proprietary display driver for Radeon R5xx, R6xx, R7xx and Evergreen chipsets. As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chipsets prior to the R600 series are supported; use <radeon> or <radeonhd> instead. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner squeeze>, <fglrx one-liner lenny> or see http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary . #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 00:59.54 | mr_chris | How do I resolve the cups-devel dependency when manually installing hplip? I have no other option as my printer is only supported in the latest version. |
| 01:00.13 | mr_chris | This is for squeeze, btw. |
| 01:00.41 | joe6 | need some advice, please: I have 2 hard disks on a debian machine. I used the first hard disk to install debian and get the system working. I then partitioned the second harddisk and copied everything from the first disc to the second harddisk. I put this into my backup procedure where I would rsync all the directories except for some such as /tmp, etc. Now, the bootable harddisk is not starting up. I think it is fried. I put the debian res |
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| 01:01.25 | joe6 | Any suggestions on how I can recover the data on teh disk and also install grub on it. |
| 01:01.31 | joe6 | Is that possible? |
| 01:01.55 | joe6 | the partition manager says that once a partition is created all the data on the disk will be lost. |
| 01:03.02 | daemonkeeper | You miss parts of the last sentence by chance? |
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| 01:03.58 | monkeyboy42 | karlpinc: when i select a mirror from the list using 5.0.8, I get an error that it's an invalid mirror. happened with 4 so far. I think it has to to with the release of 6. Can I manually enter the mirror, and where are packages available? |
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| 01:04.01 | amphi | joe6: you were truncated at 'I think it is fried. I put the debian res' |
| 01:04.47 | joe6 | amphi: oh, really. "I put the debian rescue disk and it reads the older harddisk, but as I think it did not have a bootable partition on it, it does not reboot." |
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| 01:05.01 | daemonkeeper | Ah, now that makes sense. |
| 01:05.22 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: sorry, I did not realise that you were talking to me. |
| 01:05.45 | daemonkeeper | joe6: How did you backup? I mean you need a file system already there then? |
| 01:06.31 | joe6 | yes, I created an ext3 filesystem (I remember having a bootable ext3 partition) and then rsync'ed everything from / to / of the new harddisk. |
| 01:06.50 | daemonkeeper | Well, can you find your data? |
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| 01:06.55 | daemonkeeper | Just find, not boot |
| 01:07.03 | joe6 | i thought that having a bootable ext3 filesystem would ensure that I could just load everything when the first disk crashes. |
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| 01:07.36 | daemonkeeper | So, if I get you, you have your data but you try to fiddle around partitions to make it boot? |
| 01:07.46 | joe6 | i do not see how I can get the shell prompt from the rescuigui. |
| 01:07.50 | daemonkeeper | *partitioning |
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| 01:08.17 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: When I created the partition, I made it to an ext3 bootable partition |
| 01:08.24 | joe6 | and then copied my data to it. |
| 01:08.40 | daemonkeeper | Sounds good. Perhaps you might just install grub ob it and boot it |
| 01:08.40 | amphi | joe6: that's just the bootable flag; grub doesn't care about it |
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| 01:08.49 | joe6 | using rsync and I copy the data using rsync occassionally, whenever I feel the need to backup |
| 01:08.53 | kdog | holds breath for the upgrade reboot |
| 01:09.05 | joe6 | amphi: oh, ok. |
| 01:09.35 | joe6 | when I try to install grub, it takes me to "partition disks" menu-item. |
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| 01:09.52 | daemonkeeper | Sure you run the rescue system, not the installer? |
| 01:09.54 | joe6 | I probably need to get out of rescuigui and use something like expertgui or something, right? |
| 01:10.13 | daemonkeeper | Sounds like you were in the normal installer menu |
| 01:10.44 | joe6 | the rescuegui when I put the debian installation cd got me to the installation menu. |
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| 01:10.58 | joe6 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.04 | katsrc | for some reason apell is crashing all the applications that use it |
| 01:11.26 | daemonkeeper | !rescue mode |
| 01:11.26 | dpkg | Debian-Installer has a recovery ('rescue') mode, which can be used to reinstall the GRUB or LILO boot loaders. See section 8.7 of the Installation Guide ("Recovering a Broken System") for more details; ask me about <install guide>. |
| 01:11.41 | monkeyboy42 | karlpinc: never mind, user error. mirrors work fine. |
| 01:12.16 | joe6 | the "enter rescue mode" menu item takes me to: "Device to use a root file system" /dev/hdc1 - |
| 01:12.21 | katsrc | is there a way to show different version numbers for aspell |
| 01:12.24 | katsrc | so i can downgrade? |
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| 01:12.34 | daemonkeeper | /dev/hdc? Are you _really_ sure? |
| 01:12.38 | joe6 | -> continue, takes me to "choose a different root file system" or "reboot the system" |
| 01:13.20 | trifler | If I want to change the color of folders, files etc in my term (xterm), is that a term thing or bash? |
| 01:13.21 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: yes, it says /dev/hdc1 |
| 01:13.43 | daemonkeeper | Which version of Debian are you using? |
| 01:14.23 | joe6 | i was on debian squeeze, but the rescue cd is probably 4-5 years old. |
| 01:14.53 | Azrael_- | joe6: squeeze uses ext4 and the older disks don't support ext4 yet |
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| 01:15.16 | daemonkeeper | And /dev/hdXY is not used ... since years :) |
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| 01:15.46 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: oh, ok. so, let me try to get a new debian rescue cd, then? |
| 01:15.49 | joe6 | will that help? |
| 01:16.01 | daemonkeeper | Try that first, yes. Use the normal Squeeze installer CD |
| 01:16.01 | Azrael_- | will give you one error less |
| 01:16.02 | Bridge| | ok so somehow /etc/resolv.conf keeps keeping overwritten, i've removed/purged network manager, tried resolv.conf head/tail files and tried prepend domain-name-servers in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, and /etc/resolve.conf keeps ending up with nameserver 127.0.0.1 in it, what else might be overwritting this file? |
| 01:16.15 | gary_golden | I have no "route" on the router, but do have "ip". Can I view open ports just like "netstat -tlnp" does? |
| 01:16.23 | daemonkeeper | Bridge|: resolvconf |
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| 01:16.25 | gary_golden | oops, have no "netstat" |
| 01:16.28 | joe6 | Azrael_: my hard disk stopped working after I did apt-upgrade yesterday. I put my sources to testing. I am not sure if that had something to do it. |
| 01:16.41 | joe6 | But, it was an old disk and I was expecting to fail someday anyday. |
| 01:16.46 | Azrael_- | ....testing.... |
| 01:16.53 | daemonkeeper | joe6: No, Testing didn't change until today. |
| 01:16.54 | Azrael_- | smartctl? |
| 01:16.59 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: thanks, will do. |
| 01:17.05 | katsrc | general question, do have to purge the latest version of a package before i can downgrade? |
| 01:17.19 | daemonkeeper | katsrc: No, but downgrading is not that easy |
| 01:17.26 | daemonkeeper | You have to pin priorities |
| 01:17.42 | daemonkeeper | !tell katsrc about downgrade |
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| 01:17.51 | katsrc | daemonkeeper: thank you |
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| 01:18.21 | Bridge| | daemonkeep what do you suggest I do with resolvconf? |
| 01:18.31 | mr_chris | My printer requires me to install hplip from HP's site as it's not supported in hplip that comes with Squeeze. I'm stuck at "warning: This installer cannot install 'cups-devel' for your distro/OS and/or version." Is there a way to resolve this? |
| 01:18.49 | daemonkeeper | Bridge|: If you don't need it, purge it. |
| 01:18.56 | Bridge| | ok |
| 01:18.59 | daemonkeeper | Bridge|: See also /etc/network/interfaces in that case |
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| 01:19.08 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: on a related note, is my backup procedure good. What can I do to backup a disk so that it can boot when the primary disk fails. |
| 01:19.15 | Bridge| | daemonkeep: yea that where i did the pepend |
| 01:19.56 | daemonkeeper | joe6: Reasonable, you can get that "for free" by using RAID 1, or explicitly by using LVM snapshots you save to the backup disk |
| 01:20.09 | jimerickson | can jigdo download dvd or is it only for cd? |
| 01:20.15 | daemonkeeper | DVD as well |
| 01:20.22 | daemonkeeper | joe6: Generally speaking you are fine by using rsync |
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| 01:20.42 | Azrael_- | for saving the bootsector dd is your friend |
| 01:20.43 | jimerickson | thanks |
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| 01:20.50 | Tux^verdreifelt | hmm, lenny->squeeze on my vserver worked without any loss |
| 01:20.55 | Tux^verdreifelt | i'm impressed :) |
| 01:21.05 | joe6 | with RAID1, does it not work like a mirror? then I do not have to worry about rsync and stuff, correct? |
| 01:21.24 | joe6 | and if one disk fails, the other starts running normally? |
| 01:21.35 | daemonkeeper | If you omit "not", yo udo |
| 01:21.52 | Azrael_- | joe6: raid1 only cares about hardware-failures but not logical failures (like accidently executing "rm -rf /" as root) |
| 01:21.53 | daemonkeeper | RAID 1 is a mirrir, an exact copy |
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| 01:22.24 | Tux^verdreifelt | but would RAID1 not also mirror loss due to hardware failures? |
| 01:22.25 | daemonkeeper | *mirror |
| 01:22.27 | daemonkeeper | So yes, RAID 1 can be run with a single disk only safely. |
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| 01:23.01 | daemonkeeper | It does. Just plug a replacement and it will rebuild the array, or make a backup from the remaining disk |
| 01:23.24 | Tux^verdreifelt | ah.. alright. |
| 01:23.27 | daemonkeeper | It is not supposed to run RAID 1 over long term with a single disk, but you can safely do. |
| 01:24.03 | mentor | RAID 1 with a single disk is... just a single disk |
| 01:24.11 | daemonkeeper | Exactly. |
| 01:24.25 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: that sounds cool. though, I like the backup idea as it gives me flexibility against user errors (as offline backup). But, I guess, I can live without that additional protection, so mirroring it is for me, then. |
| 01:24.28 | mentor | It works as well and as badly as a single disk |
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| 01:24.53 | daemonkeeper | joe6: Consider using LVM and snapshots on top of your RAID 1 |
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| 01:25.44 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: ok, thanks. let me get this system backup and I will move to RAID 1. |
| 01:26.14 | daemonkeeper | Well you need another disk first, since the other failed you said :) |
| 01:26.33 | joe6 | btw, my old hard disk just did not work. It was working fine until yesterday and it would just not even get to the grub menu today. Could it be a failed disk? or something more than that? |
| 01:26.33 | daemonkeeper | As mentor said it is rather pointless to have a RAID 1 on a single disk. |
| 01:26.50 | daemonkeeper | Failed disk sounds feasible |
| 01:26.54 | Azrael_- | joe6: check the smart-data |
| 01:27.00 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: yes, ofcourse. I will put another disk to make it a RAID. |
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| 01:27.18 | joe6 | Azrael_:smart-data? will check it out. Thanks. |
| 01:27.45 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: is there a way to confirm something like that? from bios or linux? |
| 01:27.52 | daemonkeeper | See Azrael_- |
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| 01:28.06 | daemonkeeper | smartmontools are to be used for that purpose |
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| 01:29.11 | chee | grub in space lol |
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| 01:31.19 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: thanks |
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| 01:32.14 | trifler | How do I search for something within .gz files recursivly? zgrep wont take -r/-R. So how is it done? :S |
| 01:32.24 | martianlobster | what is the program for cutting a big file, into many smaller files? |
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| 01:32.35 | joe6 | split? |
| 01:32.40 | joe6 | martianlobster: split |
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| 01:32.46 | martianlobster | ye, thats it, thanks! |
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| 01:33.15 | mentor | trifler: Use find and exec zgrep for each file |
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| 01:35.17 | trifler | mentor: Erm I don't understan what you mean. |
| 01:35.39 | mentor | trifler: man find search for exec |
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| 01:38.23 | trifler | mentor: Thank you |
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| 01:38.39 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: should i get testing dvd or stable dvd? any recommendations, please? I use testing distribution on the system. |
| 01:39.13 | daemonkeeper | joe6: Any fairly recent image will work. Also the CD is fine, no need to go with the DVD |
| 01:40.14 | kdog | uhoh, how'd I get: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: out of partition. |
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| 01:47.17 | nutron | Congrats to all for all their effort(s)! |
| 01:47.20 | nutron | pipes down |
| 01:47.46 | katsrc | what does iceweasel use to spell check? |
| 01:47.49 | katsrc | aspell right? |
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| 01:57.24 | joe6 | Azrael_: the smartontools are pretty interesting. That is exactly what I need. Thanks for your suggestion. |
| 01:57.27 | max_sharpe | hello?Is anyone about ? |
| 01:57.47 | babilen | max_sharpe: no |
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| 02:08.53 | katsrc | blah, now i'm experiencing the pain of running unstable... |
| 02:09.31 | simonrvn | fun eh. esp. after release. you get the broken stuff ;). |
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| 02:09.42 | daemonkeeper | Let me guesS: You upgraded X? |
| 02:10.05 | katsrc | no i've been running unstable for a few months now |
| 02:10.10 | simonrvn | is used to sid breaking |
| 02:10.21 | katsrc | this damn aspell upgrade caused major issues |
| 02:10.33 | katsrc | crashes everything that uses it |
| 02:10.35 | simonrvn | !apt-listchanges |
| 02:10.35 | dpkg | hmm... apt-listchanges is a package that shows you the NEWS.Debian and/or the Debian changelogs for packages before upgrading them. It is well worth it for stable users, to see what is happening to their machines as they apply security fixes. It should be made _mandatory_ for users of testing and unstable. Also ask me about <d-d-a>, <apt-listbugs>. |
| 02:10.38 | Tasser | the wine package doesn't contain wineserver? O.o |
| 02:10.51 | daemonkeeper | As simonrvn said, don't do upgrades shortly after a stable release katsrc |
| 02:11.11 | Tasser | wtf... |
| 02:11.19 | simonrvn | i do anyway, but i can handle it.. been at this a long time |
| 02:11.24 | katsrc | lesson learned and then i have to file a bug |
| 02:11.31 | simonrvn | Tasser: probably in /usr/lib/wine |
| 02:11.46 | simonrvn | or .../wine/bin |
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| 02:13.27 | Tasser | simonrvn, not in wine-bin |
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| 02:13.46 | Tasser | neither in wine-utils |
| 02:14.09 | simonrvn | the only places it could be in with wine is /usr/bin or /usr/lib/wine |
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| 02:14.40 | Tasser | simonrvn, /usr/lib/wine it is. |
| 02:14.41 | Tasser | strange. |
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| 02:21.58 | buntunub | for some reason I cant import the lamresh keyring and apt is spitting errors |
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| 02:22.22 | buntunub | gpg: can't open `/etc/apt/trusted.gpg' |
| 02:22.40 | buntunub | any reason for this or is there something i should be doing |
| 02:22.45 | Tasser | where's that menu.lst in debian? |
| 02:23.10 | babilen | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.16 | buntunub | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:23.23 | Tasser | buntunub, nope |
| 02:23.25 | buntunub | err sorry |
| 02:23.30 | Tasser | ehh babilen |
| 02:23.48 | babilen | you are not using grub1 then and don't have a menu.lst |
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| 02:23.55 | katsrc | when pining a package does the pin priority number have to be a specific set of numbers? |
| 02:24.04 | Tasser | babilen, where is the list in that case? |
| 02:24.09 | simonrvn | buntunub: doing this as root? |
| 02:24.12 | babilen | Tasser: but that is definitely the canonical location of that file |
| 02:24.45 | simonrvn | katsrc: yes, integer |
| 02:24.47 | katsrc | like i see 700, 900, 1001, can i just ad any higher number to set priority? |
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| 02:24.53 | katsrc | add* |
| 02:25.00 | simonrvn | those numbers mean something |
| 02:25.07 | katsrc | so just that, integers |
| 02:25.41 | babilen | Tasser: You are not supposed to edit it, but you are looking for /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 02:25.42 | buntunub | yes as root when using the procedure listed on http://www.winehq.org/download/deblenny |
| 02:26.04 | simonrvn | katsrc: an example of those numbers is when you do apt-cache policy somepackage |
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| 02:26.35 | babilen | Tasser: Note the " DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE" at the top |
| 02:26.35 | katsrc | simonrvn: thanks |
| 02:26.52 | Tasser | babilen, meh. |
| 02:26.53 | katsrc | i just across some documentation that explains each number |
| 02:26.58 | Tasser | babilen, how to edit it properly then? |
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| 02:27.49 | katsrc | ok brb going to see if the aspell bug's been fixed after downgrading |
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| 02:28.48 | babilen | Tasser: You don't |
| 02:29.21 | babilen | Tasser: I have the feeling that you are trying to achieve something. It might help to ask about that :) |
| 02:29.45 | un214 | you want to know bug? |
| 02:29.55 | babilen | But grub2 configuration and documentation is either vodoo or non-existent :) |
| 02:30.06 | Tasser | babilen, the kernel crashes telling me to use noapic |
| 02:30.18 | Tasser | after that it works cleanly |
| 02:30.26 | babilen | Tasser: Ah, you want to add an option to kopt? |
| 02:30.29 | Tasser | yep |
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| 02:30.35 | daemonkeeper | Do that in /etc/default/grub |
| 02:30.43 | daemonkeeper | And run update-grub |
| 02:30.59 | maxxe | grub made by tty's greenish :> |
| 02:31.18 | babilen | Why didn't you say so ... edit /etc/default/grub and add it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT -- run "update-grub" afterwards |
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| 02:31.38 | un214 | meh |
| 02:31.38 | babilen | or is that GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX |
| 02:31.48 | un214 | that is why I use lilo |
| 02:31.54 | Tasser | oh, good old abstraction... |
| 02:31.55 | daemonkeeper | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT it is |
| 02:32.27 | un214 | the grub scripts are a mess |
| 02:32.55 | daemonkeeper | un214: lilo has a lot of problems with more recent hardware and software. |
| 02:33.38 | babilen | and the scripts aren't *that* bad as long as you accept that you are not in charge anymore :-\ |
| 02:33.44 | Tasser | and I still wonder why debian doesn't accept the VBox guest additions... |
| 02:33.56 | daemonkeeper | babilen: Actually both work, difference is just the entry without _DEFAULT is not added to the single mode |
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| 02:34.07 | daemonkeeper | Tasser: It does |
| 02:34.19 | un214 | the scripts are flat out wrong as soon as you need something complex |
| 02:34.22 | babilen | Tasser: They are even automatically installed if you install to vbox |
| 02:34.44 | Tasser | babilen, well, the only problem is they are outdated :-/ |
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| 02:35.13 | daemonkeeper | Squeeze is how old? 2 days? They can't be that outdated. |
| 02:35.26 | babilen | well, they are :) |
| 02:35.32 | babilen | ,versions virtualbox-ose |
| 02:35.34 | judd | Package virtualbox-ose on i386 -- lenny: 1.6.6-dfsg-3; lenny-backports: 3.2.4-dfsg-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.2.10-dfsg-1; wheezy: 3.2.10-dfsg-1; sid: 4.0.2-dfsg-1 |
| 02:35.42 | Tasser | 17 aur/virtualbox_bin 4.0.2-1 [installed] (3261) |
| 02:36.01 | Tasser | hmm, 6.0 isn't sid? |
| 02:36.05 | babilen | Tasser: The aur repository for debian? |
| 02:36.05 | daemonkeeper | No |
| 02:36.14 | daemonkeeper | 6.0 is Squeeze (now stable) |
| 02:36.15 | Tasser | babilen, host is archlinux |
| 02:36.24 | babilen | Tasser: yes, i know .. |
| 02:36.49 | Tasser | daemonkeeper, so I'd have to install squeeze? |
| 02:36.52 | Tasser | ehhhh sid |
| 02:37.00 | daemonkeeper | To achieve what? Getting 4.0? Yes |
| 02:37.02 | babilen | why do you have to? |
| 02:37.08 | un214 | daemonkeeper: I'd be really curious to know what hardware lilo has trouble with |
| 02:37.11 | Tasser | babilen, bigger resolution |
| 02:37.18 | daemonkeeper | un214: Every disk < 2 TB |
| 02:37.28 | babilen | > ? |
| 02:37.46 | daemonkeeper | un214: Or any disk using GPT in general |
| 02:38.09 | un214 | lilo does not interpret partition tables |
| 02:38.17 | daemonkeeper | So? |
| 02:38.21 | babilen | Tasser: You could try to backport them yourself from sid. -- /msg dpkg ssb |
| 02:38.42 | daemonkeeper | Yet it fails to boot from GTP |
| 02:38.44 | daemonkeeper | GPT |
| 02:38.47 | babilen | Tasser: Or wait until they appear in squeeze-backports |
| 02:38.48 | mr_chris | My printer requires me to install hplip from HP's site as it's not supported in hplip that comes with Squeeze. I'm stuck at "warning: This installer cannot install 'cups-devel' for your distro/OS and/or version." Is there a way to resolve this? |
| 02:39.03 | babilen | man, lenny was easier to type |
| 02:39.22 | babilen | I need a shortcut for squeeze |
| 02:39.25 | Tasser | babilen, sounds like a hassle. Is sid one too? |
| 02:39.41 | babilen | !tell Tasser -about sid |
| 02:40.14 | Tasser | sounds good enough to me |
| 02:40.20 | babilen | Tasser: Quite a bumby ride sometimes and now in particular. (X is FUCKED right now) |
| 02:40.23 | daemonkeeper | Don't upgrade right now |
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| 02:41.13 | Tasser | babilen, ouch |
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| 02:41.16 | Tasser | babilen, oke, I'm out. |
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| 02:41.39 | Tasser | babilen, hmm, the guest additions should be pretty binary stuff in VBox... |
| 02:41.41 | babilen | Tasser: Wait a week and it is probably OK. But we just released, you should use squeeze (stable) now and wait for things to settle a bit. Or do some of the work yourself. (ssb is quite easy actually) |
| 02:42.35 | Tasser | babilen, http://backports.debian.org/Packages/ doesn't have squeeze backports? |
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| 02:43.11 | daemonkeeper | There are no Sueeze backports yet, afaict |
| 02:43.30 | Tasser | oh |
| 02:43.35 | babilen | Tasser: Not yet. But you can backports yourself -- /msg dpkg ssb |
| 02:44.01 | Arrowmaster | its not like there is anything to backport yet, its only been 2 days |
| 02:44.23 | babilen | plenty of stuff to backport already |
| 02:44.26 | daemonkeeper | Arrowmaster: Look on judd's VBox output |
| 02:44.32 | daemonkeeper | Just as an example |
| 02:44.43 | Arrowmaster | backports are done from testing, not unstable |
| 02:44.45 | daemonkeeper | Arrowmaster: Remember, Squeeze was frozen for half a year |
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| 02:45.47 | babilen | Arrowmaster: ssb works with sid just as well |
| 02:46.22 | Arrowmaster | right, i ment theres nothing to be in squeeze-backports yet, not that there is nothing to backport yourself |
| 02:46.38 | babilen | and a bunch of packages migrated to wheezy yesterday (~14% of packages) |
| 02:46.56 | dondelelcaro | daemonkeeper: sure, but during freeze we typically avoid uploading new versions even to unstable |
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| 02:47.09 | Tasser | oke, how it's getting WTF... build-dep installs me a fucking whole texlive O.o |
| 02:47.29 | daemonkeeper | Maybe Vbox contains Latex docs |
| 02:47.31 | dondelelcaro | Tasser: you kind of need texlive to build the documentation... |
| 02:47.32 | daemonkeeper | dondelelcaro: I know. |
| 02:47.46 | dondelelcaro | daemonkeeper: so even now there isn't much to backport |
| 02:47.52 | Tasser | oke... |
| 02:48.01 | dondelelcaro | (even though we'd been frozen for a while) |
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| 02:48.44 | daemonkeeper | dondelelcaro: I didn't complain. Just mentioned there would be a bit, since $squeeze_freeze and unstable, vbox being an example for such. |
| 02:49.15 | daemonkeeper | dondelelcaro: Since it is not forbidden to upload to unstable during a freeze |
| 02:49.47 | daemonkeeper | dondelelcaro: But as you used "we typically avoid" you know ... :) |
| 02:49.50 | babilen | daemonkeeper: packages in sid are no candidates for squeeze-backports -- but are "backportable" in the sense that you can backport them |
| 02:50.37 | dondelelcaro | babilen: yes, but there are a lot of packages in sid which just flowed into wheezy yesterday; they're now elegible for backports |
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| 02:51.01 | babilen | dondelelcaro: yes, i mentioned that earlier ... |
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| 02:51.22 | babilen | all is good :) |
| 02:51.31 | daemonkeeper | ... except X |
| 02:51.36 | babilen | hehe |
| 02:51.58 | daemonkeeper | babilen: I don't see how this opposes to what I said, but I think we mean the same actually. |
| 02:52.16 | babilen | yes, hence "all is good" |
| 02:52.34 | daemonkeeper | Regarding squeeze-backports |
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| 02:53.39 | babilen | yes, not regarding "state-of-helium-3-mining-on-the-moon" |
| 02:54.09 | daemonkeeper | I don't think I have an opinion about that :p |
| 02:54.23 | daemonkeeper | I'll gladly follow you :) |
| 03:00.17 | Ins|de | can anyone tell me a nice app for monitoring network trafic with stats for the terminal ? |
| 03:01.14 | un214 | tcpdump | sort | uniq |
| 03:01.39 | daemonkeeper | Perhaps you mean iptraf/iftop and so on |
| 03:01.41 | Arrowmaster | iftop is faily simple, theres others that get more complex |
| 03:02.17 | Ins|de | hmm thanks guys, i'll try those |
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| 03:04.33 | babilen | nethogs might also be worth a look (per process) |
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| 03:27.49 | pinoyoragon | After I restarted the server, and after launching gdm, it seems that it can't mount my encrypted directory... I used the correct passphrase after invoking "ecryptfs-mount-private" and it says " Inserted auth tok with sig [696b1ea85252b549] into the user session keyring |
| 03:27.49 | pinoyoragon | fopen: No such file or directory" |
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| 03:28.17 | pinoyoragon | Anyone? |
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| 03:28.49 | jello | !hi |
| 03:28.49 | dpkg | hello, jello |
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| 03:29.20 | mcloy | which webhost do you guys prefer most and leat amoung dreamhost, bluehost and hostgator? |
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| 03:36.30 | linuxguy2009 | I was wondering what exactly is meant by the ISO for teh debian live project, its titled as a hybrid image. Its like 1.1GB. Is that like a live version and installable version all on the same DVD or something? |
| 03:37.39 | jello | linuxguy2009: pretty much, see http://live.debian.net/manual/ |
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| 03:38.42 | linuxguy2009 | thanks |
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| 03:43.08 | nsadmin | could someone explain how diversion works and what it's for |
| 03:44.03 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: it's for telling dpkg to install a particular file that it would normally install into a different location |
| 03:44.10 | jello | nsadmin: see dpkg-divert(8), or do you have a particular questions? |
| 03:44.45 | mcloy | which webhost do you guys prefer most and leat amoung dreamhost, bluehost and hostgator? |
| 03:44.56 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: normally it's used by packages to avoid conflicts and/or transition to alternatives or similar; it's also used by system administrators to override a particular binary/file |
| 03:44.57 | jello | uses gandi.net |
| 03:45.22 | jello | or set particular perms on a file different from the defaults |
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| 03:45.41 | dondelelcaro | jello: that's dpkg-override |
| 03:45.47 | jello | right, never mind |
| 03:45.54 | dondelelcaro | (though you *could* do that with divert too) |
| 03:45.56 | jello | brain is fuzzy |
| 03:46.11 | jello | dondelelcaro: dpkg-statoverride i think... |
| 03:46.20 | dondelelcaro | jello: right |
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| 03:47.02 | Juul | what does it mean when aptitude says: Unable to find an archive "stable" for the package "python2.5" |
| 03:47.06 | Juul | in lenny |
| 03:47.14 | jello | Juul: lenny is now oldstable |
| 03:47.16 | Juul | i'm trying: aptitude build-dep python2.5 |
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| 03:47.45 | Juul | jello, yeah, but how do I tell aptitude that? |
| 03:47.47 | jello | Juul: make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/apt.conf reflect that |
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| 03:48.52 | Juul | ah, thanks :) didn't know I had to edit apt.conf as well |
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| 03:52.36 | klh | howto restore default font configuration? |
| 03:52.59 | jello | klh: eh? what app? |
| 03:53.11 | klh | system wide |
| 03:54.30 | jello | klh: no idea, try dpkg-reconfigure defoma |
| 03:58.12 | sedulous | How can I move an LVM volume from one VG to another VG? |
| 03:58.23 | sedulous | (except recreating it and using "dd") |
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| 03:58.54 | un214 | find | cpio -p (ducks) |
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| 03:59.18 | sedulous | i'd expect something like "lvmove" |
| 03:59.30 | sedulous | I wonder why it doesn't exist |
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| 04:00.19 | jello | sedulous: if the old VG is going away, merge the VGs and then pvmove |
| 04:00.30 | sedulous | jello: the old VG stays |
| 04:00.31 | urbanmonk | what does the * mean in this code snippet @document.xpath(*@query) |
| 04:01.02 | sedulous | jello: i have one VG on a RAID-1 and one VG on a RAID-0 for volatile stuff |
| 04:01.21 | jello | sedulous: you may be able to do it even so, i just never have |
| 04:02.16 | jello | sedulous: i think vgmerge; pvmove; vgreduce; **should** work... |
| 04:02.32 | jello | sedulous: test it out before you do it with data you care about |
| 04:02.37 | sedulous | jello: i don't want to merge or resize the VGs, just move one LV |
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| 04:03.04 | sedulous | of course i can do that manually by creating a new LV on the target VG and dd'ing the data over |
| 04:03.11 | allgood | hi folks |
| 04:03.22 | sedulous | hello allgood |
| 04:03.28 | jello | sedulous: ask on #lvm maybe... |
| 04:03.35 | jello | !greet allgood |
| 04:03.35 | dpkg | Gr33tz, allgood |
| 04:03.41 | allgood | i used to have debian installer on usb stick |
| 04:03.49 | allgood | together with some other boot tools |
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| 04:04.03 | allgood | now i am trying to make the stick for squeeze without success |
| 04:04.33 | aubrey616 | Hello, does the iso images support install from a usb stick i.e if i do a dd if= of= ... |
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| 04:04.50 | allgood | yes, but this doesn't enable me to have other tools together |
| 04:04.58 | sedulous | jello: good suggestion. i didn't expect such a channel to exist, nevermind with 73 users in it! :) |
| 04:05.16 | allgood | i tweaked isolinux to install debian amd64 and i386, have live-gnome and clonezilla... all on the same stick |
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| 04:05.42 | allgood | s/isolinux/syslinux |
| 04:05.46 | jello | aubrey616: yes, i believe so |
| 04:05.58 | jello | aubrey616: the netinst one should |
| 04:06.22 | aubrey616 | jello: aha, not the actual iso's then, hmm ok. |
| 04:06.32 | allgood | now the installer doesn't look for .iso images inside the stick, think that only the hd-media installer does that |
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| 04:07.17 | aubrey616 | allgood: so i can write iso to usb and boot/install from that ? i didnt follow really |
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| 04:07.53 | quuxman | I downloaded netatalk to access shared files on a Mac OS machine... is the netatalk package just a server, or is there a client burried in there too? |
| 04:07.55 | allgood | old way: write hdmedia direct to usb stick, and write an netinst.iso inside it to |
| 04:08.11 | allgood | new way: write the netinst.iso direct to the stick (dd) |
| 04:08.31 | allgood | my problem is that the new way isn't as flexible as I want... since I want to use the stick for other things |
| 04:08.55 | jello | aubrey616: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| 04:09.04 | aubrey616 | allgood: so i need two iso images then, the netinst.iso and the actual debian iso |
| 04:09.10 | lepton | quuxman: I believe it's just a server |
| 04:09.34 | allgood | aubrey616: yes... this page mentions the hd-media at the very last paragraph |
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| 04:09.46 | allgood | but there is not hd-media images for squeeze |
| 04:09.59 | allgood | i couldn't find them! |
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| 04:10.17 | aubrey616 | allgood: lol |
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| 04:11.24 | allgood | the installer from the hd-media is a little different from the cdimages, they search for a .iso image inside the filesystem of the stick |
| 04:12.07 | aubrey616 | allgood: ok nods, i go try that now. Thank you for helping me out. |
| 04:12.50 | allgood | just found an hd-media daily build image... will try it |
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| 04:13.01 | allgood | http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/ |
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| 04:13.56 | allgood | found the official one... http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
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| 04:15.45 | Loafers | ok im new to debian. i need kernel 2.6.35 for my driver. i checked sid and it doesn't have it, but i thought sid had the newest packages? |
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| 04:19.22 | mordocai | Loafers: Sid has the newest packages that have been submitted to the debian project, not neccessarily the newest packages that exist. Probably have to compile it form vanialla(basic procedure found http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html in sections 4.5 and 4.6) |
| 04:19.42 | quuxman | anybody know of an apple talk client package? Or even better, how to just use the damn FTP service Mac OS provides? Can't figure out what the username/password is |
| 04:19.49 | Loafers | mordocai: ok thanks |
| 04:20.02 | jello | quuxman: giyf? |
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| 04:20.21 | mordocai | apparently can't type today. |
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| 04:20.35 | quuxman | jello: giyf? That's not a package is it? |
| 04:20.55 | jello | Loafers: linux-image-2.6.37-trunk-686 |
| 04:21.04 | jello | !tell quuxman about giyf |
| 04:21.18 | _carlos | is away: (sleep) [BX-MsgLog On] |
| 04:21.52 | jello | _carlos: don't do that in this channel please |
| 04:22.02 | quuxman | jello: I wouldn't be blathering here if I hadn't already googled it for about 2 minutes |
| 04:22.24 | quuxman | jello: google said "anonymous" for username and "something like an email address" for password |
| 04:22.32 | quuxman | empty password, or email-address-like password both fail |
| 04:22.47 | quuxman | using lftp |
| 04:22.55 | _carlos | jelly: yeah sure |
| 04:22.55 | jello | quuxman: try user "ftp", password "hello@example.com" |
| 04:23.07 | _carlos | jello* |
| 04:23.34 | quuxman | user ftp unknown |
| 04:23.50 | jello | quuxman: then it's not accepting anonymous ... |
| 04:23.59 | jello | ftp is a synonym for anonymous |
| 04:24.23 | quuxman | bah. I bet it would work with apple talk... the folder is shared, and readable by everyone... |
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| 04:25.34 | Gnewt | My debian box is sending out packets with the wrong source address to my OpenVPN clients |
| 04:25.38 | Gnewt | any ideas? |
| 04:25.38 | jello | quuxman: ask #macos perhaps? |
| 04:26.03 | jello | quuxman: maybe you need PASV mode |
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| 04:27.05 | jello | quuxman: eg. pftp macos.example.co |
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| 04:27.32 | jello | Gnewt: that sounds weird |
| 04:27.39 | Gnewt | it is indeed. |
| 04:27.45 | jello | care to elaborate? |
| 04:27.53 | Gnewt | and yet: |
| 04:27.53 | Gnewt | 20:16:24.345614 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto ICMP (1), length 84) a.box.iownyour.info > 10.8.0.6: ICMP echo request, id 20165, seq 1, length 64 |
| 04:27.59 | quuxman | jello: hmm... nmap shows ftp to be open and unfiltered |
| 04:28.03 | Gnewt | I have an OpenVPN network, 10.8.0.0/24 |
| 04:28.07 | Gnewt | server is 10.8.0.1 |
| 04:28.19 | Ataxian | ive officially decided |
| 04:28.22 | gsb | hi, where does Debian mention md5sums of its isos? i have searched the website but didn't found it |
| 04:28.24 | Gnewt | client is 10.8.0.6 |
| 04:28.39 | Ataxian | trying to install a dell poweredge 1600SC without a KVM switch sux |
| 04:28.41 | Gnewt | And when I try to ping 10.8.0.6 from 10.8.0.1, it sends the packets from my public IP, not my private VPN IP |
| 04:30.10 | jello | gsb: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS |
| 04:30.33 | jello | Gnewt: bad route perhaps? |
| 04:30.35 | gsb | jello: wow! thanks a lot :) |
| 04:30.47 | gsb | jello: where is this link hidden? |
| 04:30.55 | jello | gsb: you'll need to tinker if you're not using i386 images |
| 04:31.02 | Gnewt | jello: |
| 04:31.03 | Gnewt | 10.8.0.2 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 tun0 |
| 04:31.03 | Gnewt | 10.8.0.0 10.8.0.2 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 tun0 |
| 04:31.21 | Gnewt | and I can ping from 10.8.0.6 to 10.8.0.1 |
| 04:31.24 | jello | gsb: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify |
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| 04:31.57 | crypted | squeeze update keeps failing with GPLI. output is at http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?p=250556#post250556 |
| 04:31.59 | crypted | can someone help? |
| 04:32.06 | jello | gsb: note, you should probably check the sig as well... |
| 04:32.12 | z1y | Hi all. I am trying to build postgres-9.0.3 (sid package) on my lenny system. I got error when testing numberic_big. See http://pastebin.com/XZbGALbk. Any idea? |
| 04:32.24 | jello | Gnewt: i can't read that, can you put it into a pastebin? |
| 04:32.37 | gsb | jello: yeah i have downloaded multi-arch cd and dvd. their md5sum must be somewhere close :p |
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| 04:33.42 | jello | gsb: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/MD5SUMS |
| 04:34.44 | Gnewt | jello: http://pastebin.ca/2044430 |
| 04:35.04 | jello | Gnewt: thanks, checking |
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| 04:35.10 | Gnewt | np |
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| 04:36.22 | jello | Gnewt: what happens if you `traceroute 10.8.0.6` from that machine? |
| 04:36.23 | gsb | jello: thanks, feeling a bit stupid for not able to find them :) |
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| 04:36.53 | jello | gsb: eh, it should be better linked... |
| 04:37.07 | Gnewt | jello: A disaster of asterisks. All asterisks, no routes. |
| 04:37.16 | jello | gsb: feel free to file a bug report to that effect |
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| 04:37.27 | gsb | jello: i even searched google with - Debian 6 md5sum site:debian.org, but couldn't find them |
| 04:38.21 | gsb | jello: one thing more, "debian-6.0.0-i386-amd64-source-DVD-1.iso" is this normal dvd for binary installation? why is the source word in its name? |
| 04:38.45 | jello | gsb: it has i386, amd64, and source packages on it |
| 04:39.07 | z1y | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.08 | jello | great for GPL compliance :) |
| 04:39.27 | gsb | jello: oh i see, i thought its for source based installation or something |
| 04:39.37 | jello | gsb: no, that would be #gentoo :) |
| 04:39.55 | gsb | jello: lol |
| 04:40.14 | jello | Gnewt: can you traceroute to your own vpn address? |
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| 04:40.58 | Gnewt | jello: Yea, without a hitch. |
| 04:40.58 | Gnewt | http://pastebin.ca/2044433 |
| 04:41.00 | jello | Gnewt: wait a second, something doesn't look right... |
| 04:41.27 | Gnewt | > |
| 04:41.28 | Gnewt | ?* |
| 04:41.40 | jello | Gnewt: can you ping 10.8.0.2 ? |
| 04:41.51 | Gnewt | no... |
| 04:42.02 | jello | Gnewt: nothing in the logs? |
| 04:42.24 | Gnewt | nothing I can see |
| 04:43.18 | jello | Gnewt: you're not doing ethernet bridging, right? |
| 04:43.24 | Gnewt | I am not. |
| 04:43.46 | jello | Gnewt: do you have client-to-client enabled? |
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| 04:43.57 | Gnewt | jello: yep. And I can ping just fine from client to server |
| 04:44.30 | jello | Gnewt: is ip_forwarding on? |
| 04:44.40 | jello | on the server? |
| 04:45.02 | jello | wait, you said you can ping from client to server... |
| 04:45.32 | jello | is fidelity is the client or server? |
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| 04:45.37 | jello | is confused |
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| 04:46.15 | Gnewt | fidelity is the server. |
| 04:46.18 | Gnewt | 10.8.0.1 |
| 04:46.22 | Gnewt | ip_forwarding is on |
| 04:46.33 | Gnewt | I can browse from 10.8.0.6 -> net |
| 04:46.38 | Gnewt | through 10.8.0.1 |
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| 04:47.37 | johnfg | Anyone got kerberos running on squeeze? |
| 04:47.54 | _jesse_ | is there a way to disable using a password for a user? I tried `passwd -d` to no avail |
| 04:48.26 | _jesse_ | still prompts for a password when `su`ing or logging in via gdm |
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| 04:50.37 | jello | Gnewt: so, client can ping server, but server can't ping client, is that right? |
| 04:50.46 | Gnewt | yeah, that's right. |
| 04:51.02 | Gnewt | And when I run tcpdump, the server is sending packes from my public IP |
| 04:51.02 | Gnewt | not 10.8.0.1 as it should. |
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| 04:52.10 | jello | Gnewt: so, if fidelity is 10.8.0.1, why does the routing table say 10.8.0.2 ?? |
| 04:52.22 | Gnewt | I have absolutely no idea |
| 04:52.40 | jello | Gnewt: what does ifconfig tun0 say? |
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| 04:53.16 | Gnewt | jello: http://pastebin.ca/2044440 |
| 04:53.46 | joe6 | does the install dvd take some time to start: it has been at "ISOLINUX 4.02 debian-20101014 ETCD" for some time. |
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| 04:53.57 | joe6 | probably 5 mins or so. |
| 04:54.30 | joe6 | and I see the dvd drive activity led blinking. |
| 04:54.52 | jello | Gnewt: okay, that's right. tunnel is from .1 to .2 |
| 04:55.03 | _jesse_ | joe6: I think I had to press enter once, but no it's never taken it more than a few seconds for me |
| 04:55.18 | Gnewt | Hm, ok. |
| 04:55.26 | jello | and it's saying the rest of the subnet is available through that IP |
| 04:55.47 | joe6 | _jess_: that is interesting. yes, it seems to be doing something now. "a blank screen" |
| 04:55.53 | Gnewt | And it seems to work... since I can browse the net through the vpn. |
| 04:55.58 | joe6 | s/_jess_/_jesse_/ |
| 04:56.36 | _jesse_ | joe6: hmm, well I'd restart if it takes much longer, but it's up to you |
| 04:56.56 | joe6 | _jesse_: just did that. Thanks. |
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| 04:58.51 | jello | Gnewt: what's in /proc/net/rt_cache |
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| 04:59.43 | Gnewt | jello: http://pastebin.ca/2044443 |
| 04:59.44 | joe6 | _jesse_: i burned the install dvd using nero burn-image. Do i have to finalize or something after the burn process is complete? |
| 05:00.08 | joe6 | _jesse_: but, if there was something like that, the disc would not even have started. |
| 05:00.56 | joe6 | _jesse_: the cpu is pretty old 600MHz and ram around 384MB. I am not sure if that could cause the slowdown. |
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| 05:01.39 | jello | Gnewt: sorry, i'm stumped; maybe ask the openvpn folks... |
| 05:01.48 | Gnewt | Already did ;) |
| 05:01.57 | jello | any luck? |
| 05:02.02 | _jesse_ | joe6: I assume Nero would be smart enough when burning an ISO; yeah that is pretty slow |
| 05:02.04 | Gnewt | Since the OS chooses the source IP, they sent me here |
| 05:02.07 | Gnewt | my config is correct |
| 05:02.09 | Gnewt | we dissected it |
| 05:02.30 | jello | yeah, i can see their point |
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| 05:03.07 | Gnewt | hm maybe I should ask #linux |
| 05:03.15 | jello | Gnewt: try posting to debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 05:03.21 | Gnewt | ok |
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| 05:04.43 | quuxman | went and downloaded, built and installed afpfs-ng, but afpcmd fails to run with: |
| 05:04.46 | quuxman | afpcmd: error while loading shared libraries: libafpclient.so.0: such file or directory |
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| 05:05.11 | quuxman | and yet, /usr/local/lib/libafpclient.so.0 definitely exists |
| 05:05.32 | xk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:06.09 | joe6 | Gnewt: why not set the routing manually? |
| 05:06.11 | quuxman | xk: this is a standard debian system... /usr/local/lib is definitely in there |
| 05:06.20 | Gnewt | joe6: I am not very familiar with routing |
| 05:06.23 | Gnewt | mind giving me a tip? |
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| 05:08.25 | joe6 | Gnewt: you probably tried this. anyway something like "route del default" ; "route add default gw 192.178.0.1 eth1" |
| 05:09.03 | Gnewt | er, default? Shouldn't it be a VPN-exclusive route? |
| 05:09.24 | joe6 | Gnewt: that was just a sample that I had for that command. |
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| 05:09.48 | joe6 | Gnewt: anyway, i did not read the full discussion. Just wanted to see if the route stuff could help. |
| 05:09.53 | Gnewt | I don't know what route to add really |
| 05:09.55 | quuxman | weird, this works: > LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/libafpclient.so.0 afpcmd |
| 05:09.57 | Gnewt | I think it might help |
| 05:10.14 | quuxman | do I need to refresh ld or something? |
| 05:10.22 | quuxman | how do you do this again? |
| 05:11.05 | rocking | hiii.....everybody |
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| 05:11.41 | twinkie_addict | hi |
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| 05:13.29 | Gnewt | I think this route is correct |
| 05:13.29 | Gnewt | 10.8.0.0 10.8.0.2 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 tun0 |
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| 05:13.37 | Gnewt | be right back |
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| 05:14.41 | quuxman | isn't there a command that refreshes what's available in the ld path? |
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| 05:16.00 | jimmybgood | quuxman: ldconfig |
| 05:16.03 | mordocai | quuxman: ldconfig if I remember correctly |
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| 05:16.47 | jimmybgood | check that /usr/local/lib is in ld.so.conf or buried in ld.so.conf.d somewhere |
| 05:17.36 | mordocai | had a weird issue once that was solved (after hours of troubleshooting) by a simple ldconfig |
| 05:17.43 | quuxman | jimmybgood: it is indeed. That's a default |
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| 05:18.10 | quuxman | jimmybgood: I would've had to hack shit up in order for it not to be there on a Debian system |
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| 05:18.44 | Gnewt | My routes look fine, 10.8.0.0 10.8.0.2 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 tun0j |
| 05:18.53 | Gnewt | er, no j at the end |
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| 05:19.05 | Gnewt | but it still sends packets with a source address of my public IP! |
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| 05:19.31 | aef | does anyone know what the rc in bashrc, and files like that stands for? |
| 05:19.36 | jimmybgood | quuxman: well, I have no idea what's in a default Debian system and can't tell by looking at mine |
| 05:20.01 | quuxman | jimmybgood: hah. ldconfig did indeed do the trick :) |
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| 05:20.33 | yagoo | hi folks |
| 05:20.46 | yagoo | is it too much to pay 69$ for a copy of a debian cd/dvd ? |
| 05:20.52 | Gnewt | Yes |
| 05:20.52 | yagoo | ($cdn) |
| 05:20.58 | mordocai | aef: Run commands or something like that? |
| 05:20.59 | yagoo | http://www2.precise-itc.com/component/page,shop.browse/category_id,1/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,26/ |
| 05:21.01 | Gnewt | Um, who is trying to sell you that? |
| 05:21.14 | yagoo | they're linked from the debian site |
| 05:21.17 | yagoo | precise |
| 05:21.20 | Gnewt | Link? |
| 05:21.20 | mordocai | aef: run config? lol, i'm not really sure |
| 05:21.23 | Gnewt | oh |
| 05:21.24 | Gnewt | one sec |
| 05:21.38 | aef | mordocai: could be, but somehow preverted nowadays |
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| 05:21.59 | Gnewt | It is loading slowly... |
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| 05:22.52 | yagoo | Gnewt, http://www.debian.org/distrib/pre-installed (canada section link) |
| 05:22.53 | jmarsden | aef: See http://catb.org/jargon/html/R/rc-file.html for the origin of the term. |
| 05:23.32 | yagoo | and it's not advertised as buying a 69$ service of installing debian on a machine.. but the CD's/dvd's themselves |
| 05:24.01 | mordocai | yagoo: You might want to wait a bit anyways, if you can, so that you get a Debian 6(squeeze) disc. It looks like many of the vendors don't have it yet. I assume you don't have access to fast enough internet to just download and burn it yourself? |
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| 05:24.28 | yagoo | mordocai, you newb. You have no idea why i'm here :PP |
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| 05:24.53 | quuxman | now the question is, what does this mean: mount_afp afp://fooman:secret@192.168.2.2/ fooman # ... "Could not pick a matching UAM." |
| 05:25.02 | Gnewt | yagoo: Seems like too much to me, I don't know why they are charging that amount |
| 05:25.04 | Gnewt | send an email! |
| 05:25.04 | yagoo | Gnewt, this doesn't look legit.. who should i contact about this? |
| 05:25.12 | mordocai | yagoo: Well, with that remark it seems like you are a troll :) |
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| 05:25.35 | yagoo | Gnewt, I think they should be taken off the debian vendor list |
| 05:25.46 | crypted | upgraded to debian squeeze, and SQL died |
| 05:25.56 | Gnewt | yagoo: Email the webmaster @ Precise and ask why |
| 05:26.00 | yagoo | nmind.. i see contact address below |
| 05:26.01 | crypted | 101129 16:13:12 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist |
| 05:26.08 | Gnewt | and when you get your response, if you wish, email one of the debian mailing lists |
| 05:26.18 | yagoo | Gnewt, lol.. that's not my job..i'll just notify preinstallvendors@debian.org.. |
| 05:26.32 | quuxman | what's a UAM? |
| 05:26.39 | Gnewt | Sure, I'm curious though. |
| 05:26.44 | Gnewt | perhaps I will |
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| 05:27.08 | aef | jmarsden: nice. |
| 05:27.42 | jmarsden | aef: The Jargon File is a good resource for many aspects of computing and networking history. |
| 05:29.27 | jimmybgood | quuxman: google 'uam matching afp' you need crypto devel packages - i was just curious |
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| 05:38.04 | quuxman | jimmybgood: cool, thanks |
| 05:38.27 | quuxman | jimmybgood: I've already compiled it though without errors... wouldn't I just need the right libs? |
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| 05:40.42 | jimmybgood | quuxman: when you run configure it checks to see which libs you have and then uses those, if there are many possible suported options like crypto modes it will configure support for the libs you have, but not necessarily all you need |
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| 05:41.10 | palhmbs | hi - congrats on all the hard work with squeeze |
| 05:41.33 | palhmbs | I've tried to install lxde cdimage version of it... with JFS support |
| 05:41.39 | quuxman | jimmybgood: ah I see, so I need to get more crypto libs, and recompile. Do you know which ones I should grab? |
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| 05:42.18 | quuxman | I have long been wanting a system that automatically tracks down dev package dependencies and reruns configure scripts until it works |
| 05:42.22 | jimmybgood | quuxman: i believe, but i lnow nothing about afp, you need a crypto mode that you don't have development libraries for. to configure that is not an error. it doesn't know what you need. neither do i |
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| 05:42.42 | quuxman | jimmybgood: I was hoping you'd figured out which crypto lib :) |
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| 05:42.47 | Niglop | my videos only play audio but not video? its never done this on any distro to me before |
| 05:42.55 | jimmybgood | quuxman: not a clue |
| 05:43.04 | quuxman | It would really help if make produced machine readable errors |
| 05:43.13 | quuxman | er, I mean the configure script |
| 05:43.42 | quuxman | but it wouldn't be that hard to pull out the package name using a few filters, and then feed that in to apt-cache search... then apt-get install.... |
| 05:43.55 | Niglop | anyone? |
| 05:44.01 | quuxman | does this sound insane? |
| 05:44.16 | yagoo | Niglop, debian-multimedia.org |
| 05:44.41 | mordocai | Niglop: App, codec, architecture, etc? (basically, you haven't given us much info :P) |
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| 05:45.01 | Niglop | mordocai: ive tried 10 different videos on VLC and gnome mplayer |
| 05:45.06 | Niglop | all the same thing. |
| 05:45.13 | yagoo | Niglop, read above. |
| 05:45.24 | Niglop | yagoo: i dont know what im looking at here |
| 05:45.24 | yagoo | !multimedia |
| 05:45.24 | dpkg | [dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze> <dmm lenny>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>. |
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| 05:45.28 | quuxman | I've spent far too much of my life typing "./configure", scanning for "Error 2 ... couldn't find foobar.h" "apt-file search foobar.h" "apt-get intstall foobarblah-dev" "./configure" .... repeat |
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| 05:45.39 | jimmybgood | quuxman: not at all, for example mplayer will give you a list of what you have support for and what you don't, somewhere configure is checking - it may be in config.log |
| 05:46.15 | Niglop | yagoo: what do i do here |
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| 05:46.45 | yagoo | Niglop, you add stuff to your sources.list repo definition list |
| 05:46.59 | Niglop | i dont know how to do that |
| 05:47.00 | Niglop | lol |
| 05:47.00 | yagoo | Niglop, you want non-free codecs not part of the core debian |
| 05:47.07 | crypted | http://pastebin.com/PwSudDWR -- mysql broke after upgrade |
| 05:47.11 | crypted | please help |
| 05:47.26 | yagoo | Niglop, try google "debian multimedia wiki" |
| 05:47.38 | Niglop | cant you just tell me yagoo ? |
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| 05:48.15 | johnfg | hi guys |
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| 05:48.23 | mordocai | crypted: ps -A | grep mysqld? |
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| 05:48.39 | johnfg | grub didn't recognize my win xp pro, although it did when squeeze was testing. |
| 05:48.42 | mordocai | !tell niglop dmm squeeze |
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| 05:48.57 | johnfg | Is there a way for me to get it to recognize it? Lenny did fine. |
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| 05:49.01 | mordocai | hmm... it didn't do it like it should lol |
| 05:49.06 | crypted | my:/var/log# ps -A | grep mysqld |
| 05:49.06 | quuxman | jimmybgood: ah, I should've read the INSTALL file. I need libgcrypt and libgmp |
| 05:49.06 | crypted | my:/var/log# |
| 05:49.20 | quuxman | yet again RTFM |
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| 05:49.25 | Niglop | yagoo: http://pastebin.com/UG17ape6 |
| 05:49.43 | jimmybgood | quuxman: well, only as a last resort |
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| 05:50.33 | mordocai | crypted: So, you didn't get anything right? That means mysqld isn't running. try /etc/init.d/mysqld start? |
| 05:50.42 | crypted | it fails |
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| 05:50.48 | crypted | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 05:51.14 | yagoo | Niglop, http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs .. you download the .deb first |
| 05:51.22 | Niglop | i did |
| 05:51.52 | johnfg | any grub gurus here? |
| 05:51.59 | yagoo | Niglop, try it as root |
| 05:52.04 | yagoo | (su -l) |
| 05:52.05 | Niglop | i was in the wrong directory |
| 05:52.06 | Niglop | i got it |
| 05:52.18 | _jesse_ | johnfg: just throw your question out there |
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| 05:52.24 | quuxman | jimmybgood: well I think I've made progress. Now I see: Login error: Could not find a valid UAM |
| 05:52.27 | quuxman | uhm... yay? |
| 05:52.43 | johnfg | Is there a way for me to get it to recognize it? Lenny did fine. |
| 05:52.45 | mordocai | crypted: Hmm... not really sure then. You could try manually starting mysqld i suppose |
| 05:52.55 | johnfg | grub didn't recognize my win xp pro, although it did when squeeze was testing. |
| 05:53.04 | Niglop | yagoo: it worked but my video is still playing audio and no video |
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| 05:53.22 | johnfg | I'm running 6.0 squeeze now. |
| 05:53.23 | crypted | yeh it works that way |
| 05:53.25 | yagoo | Niglop, follow the instructions on that link i just gave you.. all the steps |
| 05:53.28 | jimmybgood | quuxman: have you discovered what a UAM is yet? |
| 05:53.45 | _jesse_ | johnfg: hmm, I assume that is using grub2? |
| 05:53.52 | Niglop | ok 1 sec |
| 05:53.57 | quuxman | jimmybgood: no... probably Apple's version of rsa_pud and id_rsa |
| 05:54.01 | johnfg | Yup, what installed by default. |
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| 05:54.41 | quuxman | jimmybgood: the annoying thing is it's shared to "Everyone" and "Unknown user". The only reason I'm dicking with the Apple Talk protocol is I can't figure out Apple's default ftp authentication |
| 05:54.49 | Niglop | yagoo: http://pastebin.com/BmRghbUv |
| 05:54.56 | quuxman | Mac OS SUUUUCKS |
| 05:55.18 | quuxman | er, ahem.. I mean... Mac OS is a wonderful, everything-works-out-of-the-box operating system |
| 05:55.20 | mordocai | quuxman: Install debian on the mac then :) |
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| 05:55.38 | quuxman | mordocai: it's my graphic designer's computer |
| 05:55.41 | mordocai | Niglop: Did you do apt-get update before that command? |
| 05:55.44 | quuxman | mordocai: I don't think that would go over so well |
| 05:55.50 | _jesse_ | johnfg: mmm, I assume you didn't install over it :P I'm not sure where else to go with it, I've never had that issue |
| 05:55.51 | Niglop | yes i did |
| 05:56.04 | quuxman | mordocai: althouh she is curious about Linux |
| 05:56.13 | mordocai | quuxman: Umm... virtual machine with a shared folder with the host? |
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| 05:56.54 | crypted | ok so where is mysql_upgrade now? |
| 05:57.16 | mordocai | Niglop: cat /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 05:57.41 | johnfg | I did make /boot ext4. Would that make a difference? |
| 05:57.51 | Niglop | mordocai: http://pastebin.com/FCJ2dxnH |
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| 05:58.32 | yagoo | johnfg, I say keep "/" for everything and "swap" partition for swap.. u really need just 2 partitions for any linux |
| 05:58.42 | mordocai | Niglop: linux mint? Are you using LMDE? And try apt-cache search gstreamer |
| 05:59.08 | johnfg | yagoo, that's one way to go. I've used multiple partitions for many moons now. |
| 05:59.46 | Niglop | mordocai: im using linux mint debian and http://pastebin.com/GxfPKMjq |
| 05:59.47 | mordocai | johnfg: I have ext4 with grub2 and it picks up windows 7 fine... |
| 06:00.18 | johnfg | I can read the menu.lst from the earlier grub where it found win xp pro. How can I get that into grub2? |
| 06:00.21 | quuxman | aaaaaaaaaah, think I needed to check the little "allow guest users to log in" box in the user's configc |
| 06:00.48 | yagoo | johnfg, it's basically two lines.. there are hundres of examples of this online |
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| 06:01.15 | yagoo | johnfg, grub2 syntax different thatn grub1 of course.. |
| 06:01.17 | kblessinggr | have someone having trouble getting past Grub over IPMI |
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| 06:01.46 | mordocai | Niglop: Alright, might want to try the linux mint folks for help as well. They are -supposed- to have multimedia codecs installed by default (unlike debian). Make sure you tell the you are using debian edition though |
| 06:02.00 | johnfg | kblessinggr, sorry, what's IPMI? |
| 06:02.03 | Niglop | ok |
| 06:02.09 | kblessinggr | KVM over IP |
| 06:02.14 | mordocai | johnfg: grub-mkconfig |
| 06:02.23 | mordocai | johnfg: See if doing that then update-grub helps |
| 06:03.16 | mordocai | johnfg: bleh, I think I told you wrong... one sec |
| 06:03.50 | crypted | how can i reinstall the mysql packages? |
| 06:03.53 | crypted | i think they misconfigured |
| 06:04.11 | joe6 | is ext4 the new default with linux. I think parted still defaults to ext3, doesn't it? |
| 06:04.26 | joe6 | the filesystem type of 83 = ext3? |
| 06:04.41 | johnfg | mordocai, Nope, think that worked. BRB. |
| 06:04.45 | yagoo | joe6, ext4 is stable and good |
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| 06:05.04 | joe6 | how can I upgrade from ext3 to ext4? |
| 06:05.09 | joe6 | the install disk? |
| 06:05.14 | yagoo | joe6, no.. just use the graphical gparted... |
| 06:05.22 | joe6 | ok, cool. thanks. |
| 06:05.22 | yagoo | joe6, 83 is for linux.. |
| 06:05.37 | joe6 | isn't that the same as ext4? |
| 06:06.04 | kblessinggr | basically he's telling me he's at " it's at the grub> prompt." and doesn't know howo to get past that, its a server he's setting up for colo |
| 06:06.17 | yagoo | joe6, http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html (83 linux native partition) |
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| 06:06.24 | joe6 | ok, thanks. |
| 06:06.28 | yagoo | don't mix up lvm, it has it's own partition id |
| 06:06.33 | joe6 | oh, ok. |
| 06:06.41 | mordocai | joe6: "upgrading" from ext3 to ext4 will wipe your data. |
| 06:06.42 | joe6 | yagoo, thanks. |
| 06:06.46 | mordocai | joe6: Unless i'm crazy |
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| 06:06.53 | yagoo | (8e Linux Logical Volume Manager partition) |
| 06:07.07 | quuxman | nope... that didn't work... is there a #power_mac_os_users channel? |
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| 06:07.13 | yagoo | upgrading a filesystem is always risky.. always backup |
| 06:07.22 | joe6 | i have ext3 disks and I want to set them up for raid-1 and lvm. that is my next task. |
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| 06:07.37 | joe6 | mordocai: thanks |
| 06:07.42 | yagoo | joe6, then read up about raid.. it has it's partition id's too |
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| 06:09.25 | kblessinggr | basically just can't get past the grub> prompt |
| 06:10.47 | quuxman | I should just turn on ssh and use sshfs |
| 06:10.50 | quuxman | should've done that a long time ago |
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| 06:10.56 | quuxman | configuring ftp and aftp on mac is way too hard |
| 06:11.01 | quuxman | er, afp |
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| 06:11.14 | katsrc | hey does anyone know if gnome-shell is available on squeeze? |
| 06:11.54 | mordocai | katsrc: I don't think so. You could always compile it though :) |
| 06:12.45 | palhmbs | is their anyway I get JFS recognized on my ubuntu partition --- I didn't want to overwrite my Grub2 with debian6's -- so now I can't mount JFS in ubuntu to fix.... |
| 06:13.00 | palhmbs | I might as well re-install with ext4 |
| 06:13.13 | katsrc | mordocai, it's giving me issues about dependency |
| 06:13.17 | palhmbs | got no help in #ubuntu |
| 06:13.28 | katsrc | but i'm on sid |
| 06:14.29 | mordocai | !sid |
| 06:14.29 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 06:14.34 | mordocai | ^katsrc |
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| 06:15.21 | katsrc | mordocai, thanks |
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| 06:15.46 | katsrc | i think gnome-shell is only in experimental |
| 06:15.52 | mordocai | katsrc: Basically, I have no idea how to help you with sid dep problems :) |
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| 06:19.23 | katsrc | mordocai, thanks anyway. it's the thought that counts. |
| 06:19.50 | mordocai | katsrc: :) |
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| 06:21.12 | joe6 | daemonkeeper: i have the rescue menu and can I select "reinstall GRUB boot loader" - will this out my current filesystem data? |
| 06:21.34 | joe6 | i meant wipe-out |
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| 06:26.38 | joe6 | i have 2 disks and I was using the first disk for bootup and everything. I used rsync to copy almost everything (/) from the first disk to the second disk, similar to a backup process. Now, my first disk has failed and I am trying to get the system to boot with the second disk. Can i use the rescue option to make such a disk usable? |
| 06:26.50 | xk | hmm |
| 06:27.01 | joe6 | i tried the "Re-install grub" on the second disk and it faild with an error. |
| 06:27.07 | xk | boot from CD |
| 06:27.11 | joe6 | Any suggestions, please? |
| 06:27.17 | joe6 | yes, I have the install cd. |
| 06:27.28 | joe6 | xk: like a livecd, you mean? |
| 06:27.30 | xk | or create a grub cd, boot from that, set root to your hdd partition |
| 06:27.45 | xk | joe6: hmmm.. yeah, anything that allows you to change the boot options |
| 06:28.07 | joe6 | ok, i have the install cd and I am in the rescue menu. |
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| 06:28.54 | joe6 | can i just open up the shell prompt and change the /boot/grub.cfg |
| 06:28.54 | xk | this is where you need to know what you're doing :) |
| 06:29.13 | xk | otherwise it's a 100 step process. |
| 06:29.24 | joe6 | it says device to use as root file system and lists the second disk. I removed the first disk from the system. |
| 06:29.39 | joe6 | I opened up the shell prompt and could notice that all my data was there on the second disk. |
| 06:29.40 | xk | dunno what you're doing... once it's booted, it's booted. |
| 06:29.45 | xk | you have to do it in the interactive way. |
| 06:30.10 | xk | hmm |
| 06:30.14 | joe6 | i mean it is booting from the cd. I want to boot from the harddisk. |
| 06:30.14 | xk | well, that's not so bad. |
| 06:30.23 | xk | reinstalling grub fails with what? |
| 06:30.40 | joe6 | did not show the message. let me try again and see if I can see the error message. |
| 06:31.13 | xk | http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_3.html |
| 06:31.47 | joe6 | unable to install GRUB in (hd0). Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed. This is a fatal error. |
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| 06:33.37 | joe6 | my harddisk is listed as /dev/sda1. can I do grub-install on /dev/sda1 instead of (hd0)? |
| 06:34.03 | xk | sure |
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| 06:34.14 | joe6 | is that the correct way of doing it? |
| 06:34.47 | indecipherable | yes |
| 06:34.53 | joe6 | ok, thanks. |
| 06:35.06 | joe6 | same error. Fatal erro |
| 06:36.27 | xk | "grub", "root (hd0,0)" "setup (hd0)" |
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| 06:37.11 | joe6 | xk: should i do the above after "executing a shell in the installer environment"? |
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| 06:37.19 | xk | yes |
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| 06:37.26 | kornerr | hi |
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| 06:37.50 | joe6 | the rescue options that I have are "Execute a shell in /dev/sda1" "execute a shell in the installer env" "Reinstall grub boot loader" |
| 06:37.55 | joe6 | and so on. |
| 06:37.57 | kornerr | does anyone know how to link to a specific version of a library? |
| 06:38.04 | joe6 | will try it in the installer env |
| 06:38.16 | ham5 | !anyone |
| 06:38.16 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 06:38.55 | kornerr | remove does anyone know then |
| 06:39.03 | kornerr | the same question stays |
| 06:39.26 | ham5 | joe6 ;) |
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| 06:43.52 | anant_infinity | hi all, cna any one suggest me how can i package windows application in deb files, i am seeking something simmilar to picasa style package, intended for internal company purpose and no intention of sending packages in debian repository. if required i will setup my own deb repo for distribution. |
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| 06:44.36 | yagoo | lol |
| 06:45.08 | yagoo | anant_infinity, wrong channel. Nobody here will ever in a million years package windows applications in "deb" files. << !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:45.20 | ham5 | can try |
| 06:45.22 | ham5 | ;) |
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| 06:45.29 | yagoo | declares anant_infinity the worst of eternal newbs |
| 06:45.48 | ham5 | joe6 was up there too |
| 06:45.57 | anant_infinity | actually my main problem is i have some specific windows application which are very good and people are used to them. I have tested they work good on wine |
| 06:45.59 | ham5 | right joe???? |
| 06:46.13 | joe6 | ham5: what did you say? |
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| 06:46.53 | joe6 | i am not a newbie. i have been using debian for quite a few years. but, previously on any errors, i would just wipe out and then restart. |
| 06:47.08 | joe6 | this time, I want to see if I can repair them rather than start from scratch. |
| 06:47.18 | ham5 | connection reset by peer you say? |
| 06:47.29 | anant_infinity | however the problem is i have to setup these application on everymachine or do a image copy on every machine i wanted to have them in self extractable / installable modules. just like picasa is packaged in deb file with all its dependencies. |
| 06:47.35 | anant_infinity | i hope now people would get my point |
| 06:47.56 | indecipherable | joe6: That was my approach to Debian; so I began cloning VM's .. and now I can fix things quite well. |
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| 06:51.49 | ElDiabolo | anant_infinity, The new maintainers guide explains how to do packaging. Do you have the app in source or binary? |
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| 06:51.59 | yagoo | joe6, you definitely are a newb. You don't have to restart from scratch.. Just use snapshots with a Virtual manager |
| 06:52.24 | joe6 | yagoo: but, how do i get the snapshots? |
| 06:52.26 | yagoo | ElDiabolo, he wants "Wine" window applications bundled in .deb files.. how impractical.. |
| 06:52.31 | anant_infinity | @EIDiabolo : binary, and thanks for the pointer will look into the guide |
| 06:52.43 | yagoo | jo6, use virtual box or vmware.. |
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| 06:53.10 | fureddo | Hi! Before upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze, I have a question... I have a server with /root parition that is only 31 MB large. 12 MB are used now. Will it be enough to upgrade or should I try increasing /root partition first? |
| 06:53.18 | joe6 | yagoo: but, that is for the next time. Can i use this harddisk? or do you mean use the virtual box to get the harddisk back. |
| 06:53.22 | ElDiabolo | anant_infinity, see apt-cache search maint-guide , packaging is however not easy and actually easier if you can build from source. |
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| 06:53.50 | fureddo | What should be an appropriate size for /root partition for Squeeze? |
| 06:53.51 | yagoo | joe6, i believe vbox can work with physical disks as a more advanced setup.. |
| 06:53.56 | niftylettuce | google chrome in squeeze not loading flash player properly for gnash / gnash plugin |
| 06:54.01 | niftylettuce | any advice ^? |
| 06:54.13 | niftylettuce | using chromium |
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| 06:54.18 | niftylettuce | it also doesn't work in iceweasel |
| 06:54.20 | yagoo | joe6, you want to work with the default simple stuff. Use virtualbox's hardisk files with the vbox to practice |
| 06:54.40 | yagoo | fureddo, that's not an issue.. |
| 06:54.51 | yagoo | fureddo, "/root" is not "/" |
| 06:54.55 | niftylettuce | im getting pissed |
| 06:55.00 | niftylettuce | :/ |
| 06:55.05 | fureddo | yagoo, Sorry, /boot |
| 06:55.16 | akkark | how can i set up nautilus to always show text path? there was some gconf option i cant find anymore |
| 06:55.22 | yagoo | fureddo, it should be 300 megs |
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| 06:55.39 | ElDiabolo | anant_infinity, How do you install those windows applications? are they copyable? |
| 06:56.04 | yagoo | fureddo, you may not have an issue.. but if i use a /boot partition i would set it to 300megs for just in case |
| 06:56.19 | anant_infinity | I have checked that wine directory copied to other systems does work |
| 06:56.23 | fureddo | yagoo, Ok, will do that. |
| 06:56.38 | joe6 | yagoo: i am sorry i do not catch what you are saying. Create a new installation with virtualbox software? |
| 06:56.46 | anant_infinity | @Eldiabolo, they are copyable |
| 06:56.49 | joe6 | or is virtualbox a different arch like knoppix? |
| 06:56.54 | niftylettuce | can i fix this with libcurl3?? |
| 06:57.02 | yagoo | joe6, I'm saying in practicum. You want to toy around with any linux? Use virtual box. |
| 06:57.24 | ElDiabolo | anant_infinity, If that does it, its fine. Additional installations or updates may be harder. |
| 06:57.47 | niftylettuce | libcurl3 seems to have fixed the issue |
| 06:57.48 | joe6 | yagoo: that's fine for toying around. But, in my case, I want to get the harddisk to a usable/bootup mode. |
| 06:57.55 | niftylettuce | I reloaded chrome twice after installing libcurl3 and it works |
| 06:57.56 | yagoo | jo6, no need to worry spending time restarting from scratch if you break anything.. Just use the snapshot feature.. Also your processor should have Intel-VT or AMD-vt like features for improved Vbox performance |
| 06:58.02 | ElDiabolo | anant_infinity, Or just maintain a master wine directory and copy it over the old one? |
| 06:58.10 | fureddo | yagoo, I also have to increase /usr partition so will do that at the same time. Thanks for your help. |
| 06:58.12 | anant_infinity | @eldiabolo that's what i am thinking |
| 06:58.19 | niftylettuce | to the squeeze team -- please investigate chromium gnash issues on 32 bit systems |
| 06:58.24 | yagoo | fureddo, how big is usr ? |
| 06:58.26 | joe6 | yagoo: will do that for next time. I plan on using raid-1 with lvm after I get the issue sorted out. |
| 06:58.30 | anant_infinity | @Eldiabolo, Looks like its better i discuss this in wine list. |
| 06:58.33 | niftylettuce | should I report as a bug? if so how do i? |
| 06:58.34 | yagoo | fureddo, or rather how much is fre? |
| 07:00.10 | fureddo | yagoo, Actually, it seems that the disk has a lot of free space. 120GB at least. The biggest partition is /var and takes 5GB. Why is it so, you will ask? It's because the disk used to be a lot smaller but the machine has been migrated to another disk and the partitions have never been changed. |
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| 07:00.45 | yagoo | fureddo, well if you use apt-get it stores .debs in /var/cache so have enough space for /var .. |
| 07:01.05 | joe6 | is this a grub bug? /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib: 38: cannot create /dev/null: Directory nonexistent |
| 07:01.17 | fureddo | yagoo, Yeah, I think /var is big enough. |
| 07:01.30 | joe6 | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?) |
| 07:01.44 | yagoo | fureddo, you can use apt-get clean or apt-get autoclean something like this to clear out useless .debs in the cache |
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| 07:02.08 | fureddo | yagoo, but other partitions should be increased. /usr is only 965 MB, for example. |
| 07:02.28 | yagoo | fureddo, that's too small.. |
| 07:02.39 | yagoo | fureddo, I just use 1 partition "/" for everything.. |
| 07:03.01 | fureddo | yagoo, Definitively. It was enough for Lenny but must be larger for Squeeze, that's for sure. |
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| 07:03.18 | yagoo | fureddo, usr should be the largest |
| 07:03.44 | joe6 | there is a warning before the grub error: ext2-fs warning (device sda1): ext2_fill_super: mounting ext3 filesystem as ext2 |
| 07:03.58 | yagoo | fureddo, for application wise of course.. maybe /home would be the largest -- but all in what you want to do.. I really don't bother about that .. life is easier with 1 partition :pp |
| 07:04.40 | joe6 | fureddo: check out lvm instead of messing around with partitions. |
| 07:04.43 | Arrowmaster | last time i let the installer automatically pick the sizes for /, /usr, /var, etc they were way too small |
| 07:04.58 | yagoo | joe6, ? |
| 07:05.02 | ElDiabolo | anant_infinity, Packaging of binaries is hard because the whole concept and all tutorials assumes you build from source. |
| 07:05.03 | joe6 | yagoo: yes |
| 07:05.21 | yagoo | joe6, i say check out vbox.. lvm means a complete wipeout .. |
| 07:05.23 | fureddo | yagoo, Will take a look. Thanks for the suggestion. |
| 07:05.42 | yagoo | lvm has it's own partition id. |
| 07:05.50 | joe6 | yagoo: the problem is how do I get to vbox. |
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| 07:06.03 | yagoo | jo6, #linux. |
| 07:06.03 | joe6 | can I install vbox in the installer env? |
| 07:06.35 | yagoo | joe6, alot of people in #linux would be suited to give better hints than here.. |
| 07:06.47 | joe6 | ok, off to #linux then. |
| 07:06.48 | yagoo | joe6, vbox is free and very easy to use.. |
| 07:07.25 | yagoo | bb |
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| 07:08.28 | joe6 | why do I need vbox. I want a dedicated linux system. |
| 07:08.33 | joe6 | anyway off to #linux |
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| 07:16.56 | joe6 | do i need some kind of authorization to post to #linux. it says ##linux: cannot post oslt |
| 07:17.18 | joe6 | is it ##linux on freenode? or is there a different linux irc? |
| 07:18.36 | bocaneri | joe6, you need to identify to services. |
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| 07:26.20 | AbuDhabi | Hi. I have a bit of a problem; this is lenny on a laptop. After installing playonlinux and dependancies (pulled from sid), I've noticed that the Places menu is no longer being populated with the disks I mount in fstab, even though they are accessible from /mnt/ normally. They don't appear on the desktop or in computer:/// anymore, either. One other problem is that I can't burn any CDs or DVDs, even when a blank disk is inserted, and ... |
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| 07:26.26 | AbuDhabi | ... yet inserting a burnt disk allows access normally. What gives? |
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| 07:27.25 | mah454 | Hello |
| 07:27.33 | akssps011 | Is the installation CD of debian 6 also a live cd ? |
| 07:27.33 | Arrowmaster | mixing sid with anything except the current testing branch is just asking for trouble |
| 07:27.41 | mah454 | I have problem in debian 6 |
| 07:28.24 | mah454 | dpkg -i mkahawa-client_0.0.4-2_i386.deb ; receive this message |
| 07:28.25 | dpkg | package mkahawa-client_0.0.4-2_i386.deb ; receive this message is already installed |
| 07:28.32 | mah454 | update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header |
| 07:28.33 | mah454 | dpkg: error processing mkahawa-client (--install): |
| 07:28.33 | mah454 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.33 | dpkg | mah454: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 07:29.10 | AbuDhabi | Arrowmaster: I see that now; I just wanted playonlinux, which, IIRC, was unavailable for lenny. |
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| 07:33.20 | mostym | hey guys. |
| 07:33.35 | akssps011 | can we use debian installation disc as a live cd ? |
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| 07:34.22 | mah454 | akssps011 Yes . run this command : apt-cdrom add |
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| 07:34.50 | Arrowmaster | akssps011: there are seperate livecd images to use |
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| 07:34.56 | ivo_ | hi guys |
| 07:35.09 | ivo_ | I am having problem with the automatic mount of encrypted md raid |
| 07:35.13 | ivo_ | it worked fine on fedora |
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| 07:35.28 | ivo_ | and now on debain I don't get the password promt |
| 07:35.33 | mah454 | I receive this error after use dpkg : update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header |
| 07:35.44 | akssps011 | Arrowmaster: that means the installation disc that I am downloading via torrent can't be used as a live cd so that I may test before installing |
| 07:35.45 | akssps011 | ? |
| 07:35.49 | ivo_ | can you give me any hints |
| 07:36.08 | akssps011 | mah454: but wouldn't that help only if I have debian already installed ? |
| 07:36.09 | Arrowmaster | akssps011: unless its got livecd in the name, no |
| 07:36.38 | mah454 | yes . I use debian 6 |
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| 07:37.03 | mostym | Im setting up partitions on a new install of debian 6. Im getting Operation not permitted during write on /dev/md126 |
| 07:37.32 | mostym | any thoughts? |
| 07:37.45 | mah454 | akssps011 excuse me ! for this answer ! |
| 07:38.04 | akssps011 | mah454: np |
| 07:38.09 | akssps011 | Arrowmaster: thanks |
| 07:39.01 | Arrowmaster | mostym: my first thought is what is /dev/md126 |
| 07:39.12 | mostym | that's a good question.. |
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| 07:39.19 | Arrowmaster | my second thought is that its getting late and i should goto sleep |
| 07:39.44 | akssps011 | Arrowmaster: just another question. Downloading the cd1 image should be enough for a basic install ? |
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| 07:40.06 | Arrowmaster | akssps011: yes |
| 07:40.32 | akssps011 | thanks again :-) |
| 07:40.35 | mostym | it's saying.. The partition tables of the following devices are changed: the RAIDmd126 device#: RAIDactive device#(read-only)RAID10 device#sda |
| 07:40.37 | mostym | etc etc |
| 07:40.52 | mostym | hmm |
| 07:40.56 | mostym | read-only. |
| 07:41.19 | Arrowmaster | you created a raid 10 during the install? |
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| 07:42.07 | mostym | from BIOS |
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| 07:42.17 | Arrowmaster | oh a fakeraid |
| 07:42.31 | mostym | yep |
| 07:43.27 | Stevko | Hello. I have problems with xord dependencies. When I try aptitude install xserver-xorg I get error messages like "xserver-xorg-video-intel: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual package." And I get them for many xserver-xorg-video-* packages and similar error for xserver-xorg-input-* packages. What is that xorg-video-abi-6.0 package? |
| 07:44.10 | Arrowmaster | have you read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
| 07:44.29 | Arrowmaster | and also remember fakeraid support is rather flaky |
| 07:45.15 | Arrowmaster | i tried using it once for a raid1 and it failed horribly after i messed something up in the bios and desynced them |
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| 07:47.12 | mostym | perfect. |
| 07:47.55 | mostym | are hardware raids supported? |
| 07:48.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 07:48.39 | Arrowmaster | i run a 7+1 drive raid6 from a hardware card |
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| 07:49.14 | dsockwell | hardware RAIDs are actually probably the best-supported RAID arrangement |
| 07:49.22 | dsockwell | they tend to behave just like a disk |
| 07:49.31 | mostym | yeah, i figured. |
| 07:49.37 | mostym | ok, I guess Ill wait. |
| 07:49.38 | dsockwell | it's just Really Bad if your controller fails and you don't have a spare |
| 07:49.49 | jelly-home | lack of linux vendor tools may be an issue |
| 07:50.02 | mostym | what card you using Arrowmaster? |
| 07:50.09 | Arrowmaster | well ive had issues with partition alignment though |
| 07:50.15 | dsockwell | so if you don't have $$$$ to spend on controllers, you're probably better off doing Linux fakeraid |
| 07:50.26 | Arrowmaster | 3ware 9650 i think it is |
| 07:50.34 | mostym | LP? |
| 07:50.44 | mostym | oh, guess not. |
| 07:51.01 | mostym | I only have this 1U box. |
| 07:52.00 | Arrowmaster | i think it is low profile |
| 07:52.01 | dsockwell | just one machine? do you have a budget for a coldspare of your RAID controller? |
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| 07:52.22 | dsockwell | oh, n/m that wasn't whaat you were talking about at all |
| 07:52.44 | spo0nman | Hi |
| 07:52.48 | jelly-home | Stevko: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" and the complete output of your installation command together with the command itself |
| 07:53.04 | jelly-home | Stevko: does installing "xorg" metapackage work better |
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| 07:53.54 | spo0nman | Hi, I'm getting the following error while doing apt-get update "GPG error: Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 9AA38DCD55BE302B Debian " |
| 07:54.21 | spo0nman | I tried to del and readd the key 9AA38DCD55BE302B using apt-key but it still does not work |
| 07:54.25 | spo0nman | any ideas?\ |
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| 07:56.00 | jelly-home | spo0nman: well the mirror you're using might actually have a broken file for some reason |
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| 07:56.47 | Stevko | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/6Bi14v7x |
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| 07:57.59 | mostym | caca |
| 07:58.03 | Xinux | doodoo |
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| 07:58.57 | jelly-home | Stevko: testing and unstable are going to be hectic for a couple of weeks, this always happens after a release as new versions of everything gets uploaded |
| 07:59.01 | mostym | Because the support for SATA RAID is still experimental, you will need to boot the installer with a special boot parameter 'dmraid=true'. |
| 07:59.14 | mostym | do this in the advanced options of the installer? |
| 07:59.15 | jelly-home | Stevko: this channel doesn't really support unstable. |
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| 08:00.13 | valdyn | mostym: you should not even consider the sata raid |
| 08:00.19 | Stevko | jelly-home: ok. I will wait and hope it will be better in a few days. |
| 08:00.24 | spo0nman | jelly-home: i'm using http://backports.debian.org |
| 08:00.34 | palhmbs | well - after having problems with jfs -- and giving up -- I've managed to install the cdimage of debian lxde 6.0 --- the installer definitely doesn't like you quitting it before it finishes installing grub |
| 08:00.36 | valdyn | mostym: the only actual reason for using this can be that you have to dual boot windows |
| 08:01.08 | palhmbs | where do I submit suggestions / ideas about the cdimage LIVE-cd iso installer? |
| 08:01.29 | valdyn | mostym: true hardware raid or mdraid ( pure software raid ) |
| 08:01.30 | MacCoaster1 | im trying to build a kernel module against my kernel and it seems to want a file named build in /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but theres no such file. any ideas? |
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| 08:01.49 | bolt-work | why would you want to use fakeraid? |
| 08:01.58 | bolt-work | mdadm is just as fast from my testing, at least |
| 08:02.41 | jelly-home | MacCoaster1: What does uname -r say? Is the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package installed? |
| 08:02.45 | Arrowmaster | MacCoaster1: first guess is that you arent using the default debian kernel and that your hosting provider that setup this box for you installed a different kernel on it |
| 08:02.47 | dsockwell | mdadm is great |
| 08:02.56 | bolt-work | i actually prefer mdadm when performance isn't critical, because of the lack of hardware dependence. if anything other than the drives break, you can just move them somewhere. no raid card needed at destination |
| 08:02.58 | mostym | <-- noob |
| 08:03.12 | dsockwell | MacCoaster1: can you give us the output of uname -r ? |
| 08:03.28 | jelly-home | I had mixed results with mdadm and hotplugging |
| 08:03.32 | MacCoaster1 | jelly-home: yes linux-headers is installed |
| 08:03.54 | jelly-home | MacCoaster1: uname -r? |
| 08:04.06 | ham5 | 2.6.37h3k |
| 08:04.10 | MacCoaster1 | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 08:04.11 | bolt-work | jelly-home: hotplugging might work better with a real raid card, yes, but i doubt it'd improve with fakeraid |
| 08:04.13 | Arrowmaster | bolt-work: mdadm should actually be faster than fakeraid for some raid types like raid1 |
| 08:04.17 | dsockwell | hm |
| 08:04.18 | MacCoaster1 | or whatever it is. defualt 6.0 kernel |
| 08:04.30 | dsockwell | MacCoaster1: where did this installation come from? did you install it yourself? |
| 08:04.41 | MacCoaster1 | yeah its my desktop |
| 08:04.43 | bolt-work | Arrowmaster: depends how much the partial raid chipset handles, i guess |
| 08:04.46 | dsockwell | oh |
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| 08:05.09 | dsockwell | MacCoaster1: i was thinking that if it was a VPS, some of them aren't allowed to use kernel modules, but that's obviously not your problem |
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| 08:06.09 | Arrowmaster | bolt-work: fakeraids dont have chipsets, its only a config done in the bios and then the complete implementation is done in software |
| 08:06.22 | dsockwell | oh |
| 08:06.24 | MacCoaster1 | ah oops, i installe dkernel headers for xen instead of regular when i was testing xen |
| 08:06.28 | MacCoaster1 | pardon my idiocy :) |
| 08:06.34 | dsockwell | MacCoaster1: /lib/modules/kernel/build ? |
| 08:06.40 | dsockwell | MacCoaster1: do you have the full kernel source? |
| 08:06.52 | MacCoaster1 | nah i got it i think |
| 08:07.01 | dsockwell | oh, hehe |
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| 08:07.57 | jelly-home | MacCoaster1: installing linux-headers-$(uname -r) results in creation of a symlink in there for me: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2011-02-08 09:06 build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.37-trunk-686 |
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| 08:12.12 | wsxws | hi all |
| 08:12.25 | wsxws | any suggestions how to install php5-fpm on squeeze ? |
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| 08:15.10 | jelly-home | ,versions php5-fpm |
| 08:15.11 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'php5-fpm' was found in i386. |
| 08:15.45 | jelly-home | wsxws: there is no official package for that api yet at all. |
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| 08:19.19 | weltall | i've a setup with lprng in order to use the printer (which is a network one, and considering it's a low memory/cpu speed system i didn't want to bring in the weight of cups). Till 2 days ago i had debian 5 lenny and everything worked (i've used part of this to set it up http://enc.com.au/docs/lprngfoo.html). but since the update to debian 6 squeeze i couldn't print anymore. So i tried checking what was wrong and at first gutenprint binary c |
| 08:19.20 | weltall | hanged name to 5.2, fair so i got a new ppd from foomatic and installed it. only now it doesn't work either, i've checked if gs had the filter needed for it (as it was changed in the ppd) and it's there but i get 2 types of errors 1) it seems to get the printer name in the arguments of the file to print (foomatic-rip) 2) i get an error unable to fork kid3. when i try to run foomatic-rip manually by passing a random text file it works fine ( |
| 08:19.20 | weltall | well excluding the fact it doesn't print this way) when i try to print using echo x | lpd -Z DOCS or by using any tool able to print (eg: openoffice) i get errors from lpd and i get no prints. checking the code of foomatic it seems kid3 is the step which calls gs but i don't get why it fails to fork (nor there is much info in google). also the configuration worked perfectly before update. ideas? |
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| 08:19.42 | xk | thats the biggest question I have ever seen |
| 08:20.04 | weltall | yeah me too didn't notice i had written so much XD |
| 08:20.49 | weltall | ah the system is an armel if it's of importance |
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| 08:22.32 | Eftarjin | hi. aptitude update tells me that the key for lenny-backports is invalid: "BADSIG 9AA38DCD55BE302B Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" |
| 08:22.36 | Eftarjin | what should I do? |
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| 08:23.02 | jmarsden | Eftarjin: Try a different mirror? |
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| 08:23.34 | Eftarjin | so something is wrong with backports.debian.org? |
| 08:23.51 | weltall | additional things the errors which seems to have the printer name in the middle of arguments come from a2ps not from foomatic directly which gives in place the kid3 error. i'd not be surprised if it's a result of the first |
| 08:24.02 | jelly-home | Eftarjin: you're the second one to report it today so it might be |
| 08:24.31 | Eftarjin | ok so it's not just me. thanks |
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| 08:30.28 | wsxws | jelly-home if there was an official package in defaul repos i would not have been asking here. using lenny it was possible to install that using dotdeb.org's repos, but on squeeze i can not find any repo for php5-fpm (which is a bit strange, because its a rather new package) |
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| 08:32.32 | vado | anyone else not able to get networking on 6 ppc from the DVD? |
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| 08:43.27 | tgywa | I am using iftop to monitor interface bandwidth |
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| 08:43.53 | tgywa | to see if a network bottlneck is causing system load to be high |
| 08:44.14 | tgywa | how can I collect some data from iftop with a scirpt |
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| 08:44.39 | tgywa | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.46 | tgywa | I tried that but didn't work |
| 08:44.51 | tgywa | any idea ? |
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| 08:46.59 | OrigenAG1 | Hi Guys, I'm experiencing a problem when I try using "crypsetup luksClose" to close an encrypted drive I get the error "Command failed: device busy" - I cannot see anything using the device when I execute lsof or ps - any ideas? |
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| 08:47.31 | OrigenAG1 | I have a feeling its related to by grub file but I dont know how to resolve the issie |
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| 08:49.23 | Azrael_- | OrigenAG1: unmount it? |
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| 08:53.38 | OrigenAG1 | Azrel: thanks. its already umounted |
| 08:53.41 | vado | anyone else not able to get networking on 6 ppc from the DVD? |
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| 08:55.27 | OrigenAG1 | *Areael: The reason why I think its related to grub.conf is because when I updated the kernel it pre populate the file pointing to /dev/sda (the encrypted drive) I have gone back in edited but I think thats its still locked somehow |
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| 08:55.54 | simonrvn | vado: running wheezy, and ran squeeze and lenny (and etch, sarge, woody, potato) on my ppc box, works |
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| 08:57.10 | vado | simonrvn what models? this is an old 02 era 80Mhz G4 quicksilver |
| 08:57.20 | vado | 800Mhz* |
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| 08:58.30 | simonrvn | beige g3 (tower and desktop), powertower pro, 7500 |
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| 08:58.54 | simonrvn | vado: you'll need to be more specific ;) |
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| 09:00.00 | PepperBob | hi guys. as off yesterday my apt-cacher causes BADSIG error with apt-get update; bypassing apt-cacher works just great. any experiences with that? |
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| 09:00.47 | vado | simonrvn http://apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=g4_quick_2002&sort=date&performa=off&order=ASC |
| 09:00.58 | PepperBob | oh, it's oldstable, i.e. apt-cacher 1.6.4 |
| 09:01.08 | simonrvn | vado: what's not working? during the install? |
| 09:01.16 | vado | simonrvn I can't get anything other then ping to connecto to the outside... |
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| 09:01.55 | vado | simonrvn post install, no browsers, chat, not even apt |
| 09:02.11 | OrigenAG | When I edit grub.conf and then refresh it I receive the erorr "WARNING: GRUB::GrubDev2UnixDev: No partition found for /dev/sda with 1 |
| 09:02.19 | simonrvn | vado: can you get an ip but not hostnames? |
| 09:03.08 | CMihail | how can you restrict access to ldap users so they won't be able to use ssh? |
| 09:03.12 | simonrvn | PepperBob: bad release file (on the server) ? |
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| 09:03.53 | simonrvn | CMihail: what? use pam. |
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| 09:04.02 | PepperBob | simonrvn: i actually dropped the entire cache and restarted over. but same issue keeps happening... |
| 09:04.03 | vado | simonrvn yeah, only tried google, but it jus picks on of their IPs, pings look normal, same machine in OS X everthing works |
| 09:04.09 | CMihail | i tried |
| 09:04.31 | simonrvn | vado: check your dns (/etc/resolv.conf) |
| 09:04.33 | CMihail | i've add account required pam_access.so in /etc/pam.d/sshd |
| 09:04.51 | CMihail | and then i edit /etc/security/access.conf |
| 09:05.16 | jmm | vado: if it's after upgrade to squeeze I had same issue yesterday. |
| 09:05.17 | CMihail | but it let's me connect |
| 09:05.21 | simonrvn | you'll need to do some googling on that, i haven't played with the specifics |
| 09:05.37 | vado | simonrvn will have to restart, currently only have this Mac, since the netbook blew up last week... |
| 09:06.15 | vado | pos acer hardware... |
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| 09:06.36 | simonrvn | CMihail: ldap would do it via hosts access, not specific apps |
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| 09:07.04 | simonrvn | unless you want to check out gosa, maybe they have something there |
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| 09:07.48 | noo | Hello, Is there a config file which I can use to configure the gnome-panel? I'm sorry for putting the question here, but I didn't know where to go otherwise. I need this, because I will have a custom isntallation and there I need a custom panel aswell, with certain buttons already in there.... |
| 09:08.17 | simonrvn | noo: sabayon |
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| 09:08.52 | noo | simonrvn: ? |
| 09:09.12 | simonrvn | it's an application. sets defaults in gconf |
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| 09:10.01 | noo | simonrvn: yes but the problem is, that I need to directly write it into some file under /etc if thats possible, so I can immediately do this configuration while installing our custom debian version.... |
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| 09:10.11 | simonrvn | sabayon |
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| 09:13.23 | petrol-x | "WormDude is now known as WormFood" that is a one nice change :) |
| 09:13.26 | wsxws | hot to turn off 'dependency based boot sequencing' ? |
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| 09:15.28 | PepperBob | alright, it's just the backports |
| 09:15.49 | PepperBob | and it happens to the official backports via http://backports.debian.org, too |
| 09:15.56 | rocking | hi.....everyone |
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| 09:18.49 | WormFood | indeed, it can be a nice change ;) |
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| 09:21.07 | Swathe | i am using debian 6 Aand my ethernet connection seems to drop out after a period of time. I can click on the icon to have it reconnect, does that need to be congigured manually? |
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| 09:21.44 | WormFood | Swathe, it may help to say what type of ethernet you have (what kinda chipset) |
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| 09:22.41 | Swathe | Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI E |
| 09:23.10 | Swathe | i am in my interfaces file in /etc/network |
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| 09:23.54 | Swathe | all that is in the entry for my ethernet card is |
| 09:24.04 | Swathe | allow-hotplug eth0 |
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| 09:24.42 | wald0 | what's the new codename for the next version ? |
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| 09:25.15 | ham5 | wheezy is testing now |
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| 09:25.35 | WormFood | wheezy? what a terrible name for a distro |
| 09:25.54 | WormFood | why not just name it "wheezy windbag"? ;) |
| 09:26.02 | ham5 | why dont you get a clue |
| 09:26.38 | wald0 | lol yeah, i dont like it, sorry :) |
| 09:26.43 | WormFood | I had a clue once, but I lost it....I tried checking lost-and-found, but nobody turned it in |
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| 09:27.13 | matt_palmer | Hi, anyone have an experience with custom Squeeze AMI in AWS EC2? |
| 09:27.22 | matt_palmer | having problem with PRNG on SSH |
| 09:27.30 | WormFood | but I think ubuntu has worse names |
| 09:27.41 | babilen | hands WormFood a list of Toy Story characters |
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| 09:27.48 | matt_palmer | Custom image working fine for all other services like http,etc |
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| 09:27.54 | WormFood | rolls his eyes |
| 09:27.59 | Swathe | ok edited my interfaces config, going to reboot and see if i get network |
| 09:28.02 | babilen | I'm waiting for "Debian Troll" ;) |
| 09:28.11 | WormFood | yes, babilen, I'm well aware of where debian gets it's release names from :P |
| 09:28.29 | WormFood | Swathe, reboot? why? |
| 09:28.52 | babilen | Yeah, I was surprised about you not knowing it. |
| 09:28.58 | WormFood | just do an /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 09:29.18 | WormFood | babilen, no, I knew about it |
| 09:29.35 | WormFood | I just think they should have skipped some of the names |
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| 09:30.13 | WormFood | in any case, I think they picked a good name for unstable |
| 09:30.36 | babilen | definitely |
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| 09:31.48 | DumbGuy | hi, i've done a big no no, and i'm wondering if there is anyway to regenerate the packages that are installed on a debian system |
| 09:32.01 | DumbGuy | the dpkg database of installed packages i mean |
| 09:32.43 | ham5 | whats the no no your trying to fix instead |
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| 09:33.43 | petern_ | deleted something in /var/lib/dpkg it sounds like |
| 09:33.45 | babilen | They should name the next point release "Squeezy" and replace more and more letters. ;) |
| 09:33.54 | Swathe | i only rebooted to see what happens on my roputer end |
| 09:33.58 | Swathe | router |
| 09:34.12 | Swathe | as i assigned a static ip to my machine in the ip tables |
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| 09:34.41 | Swathe | well my edits to the interfaces config seemed to have worked |
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| 09:38.11 | e-anima | one thing, i deleted all mail.log files and compressed, but they are not beeing recreated if i restart the mailer, i know if i reboot it will recreate, but i cant reboot right now |
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| 09:38.14 | e-anima | any ideas? |
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| 09:40.05 | simonrvn | no, a reboot won't recreate them. |
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| 09:40.22 | simonrvn | try restarting your syslogd |
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| 09:40.42 | e-anima | ok, doesnt a reboot automatically starts/restarts the syslog demon? |
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| 09:41.10 | e-anima | only curios |
| 09:41.12 | simonrvn | yes, but why reboot when you can restart a daemon? but yes, my error |
| 09:41.27 | e-anima | only for info, i wont restart ^^ |
| 09:41.35 | e-anima | thx simonrvn |
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| 09:42.10 | anoninon | what could cause broken pipe problems with ssh? nic is good, no proxy or anything in the middle, just a straight shot through a switch and i get a broken pipe randomly (5 seconds to 10 minutes) |
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| 09:43.53 | armetiz | Hi there, I just want to install a MTA, but in a very simple way.. |
| 09:44.17 | simonrvn | e-anima: might not do it, but it should, since those are handled by the syslogd |
| 09:44.21 | ainalavi | armetiz , sudo apt-get install sendmail |
| 09:44.21 | armetiz | I'm asking myself about QMail / Sendmail... Do you know witch of them is the simplest ? |
| 09:44.24 | Azrael_- | anoninon: only a periodic or permanent problem? |
| 09:44.31 | simonrvn | armetiz: nullmailer or such? |
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| 09:45.43 | armetiz | simonrvn thanks for nullmailer, I don't know it.. |
| 09:46.10 | armetiz | I didn't know him.. sorry |
| 09:46.21 | e-anima | simonrvn it does, rsyslog |
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| 09:48.19 | simonrvn | e-anima: 'k |
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| 09:49.17 | simonrvn | armetiz: sendmail is not simple, nor is qmail. debian's default mta is exim4 |
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| 09:50.45 | Jimmy89 | hey guys, my friend has a mdadm array where it dropped a disk out, he re added it, and it now is sitting as spare and the array is in a degraded state |
| 09:50.56 | Jimmy89 | how do you force it to become an active disk? |
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| 09:53.06 | simonrvn | man mdadm; it should sync it with the right command |
| 09:53.15 | wsxws | how to reinstall phpmyadmin, so that it will ask for the settings for controluser again ? |
| 09:53.45 | DumbGuy | 20 minutes from nuked /var to fixed, says a lot about debian |
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| 09:53.49 | Shadur | wsxws: dpkg-reconfigure -Plow phpmyadmin ? |
| 09:54.10 | soczol | is anyone else also facing an issue after migrating from lenny->squeeze that php5 no longer works when running scripts from a userdir? I'm getting the raw php files delivered to me at the moment (the source), even tho the 'LoadModule' and 'AddType' is in place in the global config |
| 09:54.13 | hardisk | Hello, quick issue : I installed apache2 and php5 , firefox wants to download php file, he does not display them, why |
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| 09:54.38 | wsxws | what mean Plow ? |
| 09:54.53 | soczol | heh, nice timing hardisk! is that a new install, or upgrade? |
| 09:55.03 | DumbGuy | hardisk: there is a setting in apache that tells it which files to display, it may already be there, you just need to add php to the list |
| 09:55.15 | hardisk | soczol, clean Squeeze install i386 |
| 09:55.38 | hardisk | DumbGuy, Where is this conf file? I suppose it's in /etc/apache2 but what is it? |
| 09:55.50 | soczol | you are probably missing a 'AddType application/x-httpd-php .php' |
| 09:56.01 | soczol | I added mine in 'php5.load', but not sure if that's the right place :) |
| 09:56.03 | hardisk | I tried this |
| 09:56.09 | hardisk | I also a3enmod php5 |
| 09:56.13 | hardisk | both are not working |
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| 09:56.38 | DumbGuy | hardisk: I'm not sure, i switched from apache to lighttpd some time ago, i'm sure there is plenty documentation out there, a quick google should do it |
| 09:56.57 | hardisk | DumbGuy, I did google'd, I still did not founded a working solution |
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| 09:58.26 | wsxws | installing phpmyadmin the first time, it also installs dbconfig, it creats a database calles phpmyadmin, a corntroluser and ask for a password for thast user. firsttime installtioan failed because of connection lost (ssh). now i want to reinstall that, but it does not ask those questions nomer and does not create that database. how to reinstall thst properly ? |
| 09:58.33 | DumbGuy | um, is there an httpd.conf file in the /etc/apache2 directory? |
| 09:58.44 | DumbGuy | just a guess really |
| 09:58.48 | wsxws | (and nope a simple reconfigure of phpmyadmin die not fix that problem at all) |
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| 09:59.17 | hardisk | DumbGuy, yes |
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| 09:59.47 | DumbGuy | i think that is the main file, there may be other files that also hold some settings |
| 09:59.56 | aleixdorca | Hi, maybe a stupid question, but I'm unable to mount the downloaded isos (netinst, business card...) of Squeeze... anyone seeing this problem? |
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| 10:02.10 | DumbGuy | aleixdorca: it's something like mount -o loop image.iso /media/mountpoint |
| 10:02.20 | hardisk | DumbGuy, yep, but I don't know what to type in it |
| 10:02.21 | aleixdorca | VMWare mounts them fine and install, but mac os can't mount them... aren't they "normal" ISO? What filesystem do they carry? |
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| 10:05.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i got a question.. |
| 10:05.17 | hardisk | Eryn_1983_FL, don't ask to ask ;) go ahead mate |
| 10:05.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am setting up the NX client |
| 10:05.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | and NX ssh sever for my box. |
| 10:06.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | now it there something worth while in me doing it the hard way like with remote X connections or is the software the does it for you easier and better |
| 10:06.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | or is it just a cop out of me being lazy? |
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| 10:07.08 | themill | dpkg: tell soczol about php userdir |
| 10:07.22 | DumbGuy | hardisk: did you try this ubuttnut thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=890814 |
| 10:07.31 | soczol | themill: great, thanks! |
| 10:07.40 | themill | hardisk: you should "/msg dpkg php wants me to download still" |
| 10:07.41 | amoe | Hi all, running sid, xorg-server dependencies seem really broken since the weekend, anyone see this? |
| 10:07.51 | amoe | Output from aptitude dist-upgrade: http://paste.debian.net/106840/ |
| 10:07.52 | hardisk | DumbGuy, no , gonna try this right now, thanks :) |
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| 10:08.20 | hardisk | themill, the bot is wrong, I cleared the cache |
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| 10:08.41 | themill | hardisk: the bot is not wrong... it's telling you the most common causes of this problem. |
| 10:08.56 | hardisk | themill, you got my point.. |
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| 10:09.59 | themill | hardisk: can you pastebin the entire output of "wget -O- http://your.web.site/and/path.php" |
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| 10:10.46 | hardisk | themill, the basic Wordpress installer |
| 10:11.10 | hardisk | themill, ?php |
| 10:11.10 | hardisk | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.10 | hardisk | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.17 | hardisk | and it goes on |
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| 10:12.29 | MaxFrames | gosh... I tested the upgrade on a lenny VM and it went belly up big time :D I guess I will have to review the process deeply |
| 10:12.54 | themill | hardisk: I'd like to actually see the entire output, please. Or at least the first 20 lines. |
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| 10:13.49 | hardisk | themill, http://pastebin.com/tWRqV7AB |
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| 10:18.47 | themill | hardisk: If I look at that page from a browser it works fine; if I look at it from wget I get a 500 internal server error. WTH have you got in your configuration there? |
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| 10:19.12 | hardisk | themill, nothing, the default file after apt-get'in it |
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| 10:22.18 | themill | bleh they're "it's working now configure me" page is returning 500 by some sort of "interesting" design. |
| 10:22.24 | themill | s/they're/their/ |
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| 10:24.52 | hardisk | :/ |
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| 10:28.43 | hardisk | I'm not the only one trying to run an apache server with php on Squeeze am I? x) |
| 10:29.22 | EmleyMoor | hardisk: Surely not :-) |
| 10:29.31 | EmleyMoor | Is it giving some trouble? |
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| 10:29.39 | amoe | WRT broken xorg dependencies on sid: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/02/msg00551.html |
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| 10:29.49 | ham5 | been running apache and php for a long time no problems |
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| 10:30.21 | hardisk | EmleyMoor, When I use a php file on my server, my browser does not display it but tries to download it |
| 10:30.27 | ibrahim | i followed to instructions at this site to upgrade to squeeze from lenny: http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-upgrade-from-debian-lenny-to-squeeze |
| 10:30.33 | hardisk | EmleyMoor, I tried the regular solution, none of it works |
| 10:30.52 | EmleyMoor | hardisk: Not seen that problem |
| 10:31.06 | ibrahim | some commands i couldn't work out correctly but finally my terminal downloads files from ftp.us.debian.org |
| 10:31.29 | babilen | amoe: Rather http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2011/02/threads.html#00360 |
| 10:31.34 | ibrahim | do you think i am upgrading to squeeze or what is it downloading? |
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| 10:32.15 | petern_ | ibrahim, as long as you changed "lenny" to "squeeze" then yes, it's downloading squeeze. |
| 10:32.51 | teff | ibrahim: in theory yes, i'd say. but why don't you follow the instructions from debian.org? there it suggests to upgrade the new kernel first, and people had problems not doing it |
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| 10:33.01 | ibrahim | petern_: yes, i edited sources,list to squeeze but the ftp addresses remained same there. so, still i am not sure. |
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| 10:33.50 | ibrahim | teff: babilen also said yesterday but too long writing there just to upgrade. |
| 10:34.03 | ibrahim | teff: do you think i am not upgrading the kernel with this way? |
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| 10:34.18 | amoe | babilen: indeed, that message makes sense now |
| 10:34.28 | babilen | ibrahim: yes, please follow the release notes or *at least* the instructions from dpkg |
| 10:34.48 | babilen | amoe: don't remove the packages and wait it out :) |
| 10:35.08 | ibrahim | babilen: i guess too late for that. 583 files from ftp.us.debian.org already downloaded. |
| 10:35.20 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 10:35.37 | babilen | downloaded or already unpacked and installed? |
| 10:35.52 | babilen | *or in the process of unpacking and installation |
| 10:36.19 | ibrahim | i guess so, terminal first downloads the package and then says "working..." then next package.. |
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| 10:36.48 | utrrrongeeb | ibrahim: but does it say "downloading," or "unpacking"? |
| 10:36.50 | babilen | what did you do exactly? |
| 10:36.51 | teff | ibrahim: the point is to do the kernel before the rest. its maybe two more lines of commands, might save you hours of fixing;) |
| 10:37.04 | teff | ibrahim: as long as its only downloading you can still start over |
| 10:37.07 | jelly | ibrahim: don't expect a lot of help here if you wilfully disregard best practice as outlined in the Release Notes <g> |
| 10:37.28 | babilen | ibrahim: *I* will not help you to pick up the pieces of your broken install if you ignore everything I suggest. |
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| 10:38.08 | teff | ibrahim: do 4.4.4 - 4.4.6 as described in http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade |
| 10:38.10 | babilen | ibrahim: And yes, if it is only downloading just stop it (ctrl-c) *and follow the release notes* or *at least* : |
| 10:38.15 | babilen | dpkg: lenny->squeeze |
| 10:38.15 | dpkg | Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <squeeze release notes>. |
| 10:38.19 | ibrahim | great. i am trying to learn something totaly new, it is linux, and really i don't get enough help with that. |
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| 10:39.39 | teff | ibrahim: if you're not willing to read very useful instructions you're on your own. it's like "don't stick your tongue in the blender" |
| 10:39.54 | babilen | ibrahim: It is of *uttermost* importance that you listen to us. It is also important to read documentation when you are trying to learn something. We *are* trying to help you, you are just ignoring our suggestions. *Please* spare yourself (and probably us) the work and stop doing what you are doing right now. And follow the dpkg factoid or read the release notes. |
| 10:40.30 | hardisk | any other idea for my problem? |
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| 10:40.36 | babilen | ibrahim: You said yesterday that you are too tired and don't have enough time to follow the release notes. I suggested to wait until today with *the work of upgrading your system* to a major new release. |
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| 10:40.53 | babilen | and yes, don't stick yout tongue in the blender |
| 10:41.06 | ibrahim | babilen: okay but do you see what you advise me all the time? |
| 10:41.12 | ibrahim | read this read that. |
| 10:41.16 | ibrahim | a lot of readings. |
| 10:41.19 | babilen | yes |
| 10:41.39 | ibrahim | i didn't see anyone here who said me "oh yes, write this command and you're there." |
| 10:41.58 | EmleyMoor | ibrahim: Because you don't. |
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| 10:42.10 | ansgar | ibrahim: So you are not trying to learn anything. |
| 10:42.10 | ibrahim | i am not, what? EmleyMoor |
| 10:42.13 | jmm | hehe. |
| 10:42.16 | babilen | ibrahim: yes, because it is not that easy. And in particular because *all the commands are in the release notes* -- did you check them? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 10:42.19 | hardisk | see someone getting flammed :o |
| 10:42.36 | Cozminsky | unless you have a 10 gallon hat |
| 10:42.37 | babilen | ibrahim: They are really not that long. *Please* follow them. |
| 10:42.44 | babilen | hands ibrahim a cookie |
| 10:42.46 | EmleyMoor | You aren't aren't - you do not just type one command to get there. |
| 10:42.47 | adac | guys anyone expirence with installing ruby on rails on debian? |
| 10:42.47 | babilen | ibrahim: Now? |
| 10:43.03 | ibrahim | OKAY. |
| 10:43.04 | hardisk | babilen, COOKIE MONSTER WANT |
| 10:43.15 | ibrahim | so, babilen am i doing wrong upgraderight now? |
| 10:43.19 | babilen | yay, the cookie did it! |
| 10:43.23 | hardisk | ibrahim is going berserk! |
| 10:43.46 | EmleyMoor | ibrahim: Maybe. Stop it before it goes too far and follow the relevant section of the release notes. |
| 10:43.51 | hardisk | Look! a wild ibrahim appears! |
| 10:44.04 | hardisk | babilen, I choose you! |
| 10:44.07 | ibrahim | hardisk is a bot? |
| 10:44.11 | hardisk | I'm not |
| 10:44.20 | utrrrongeeb | That's what he says |
| 10:44.26 | ibrahim | ehem, stop teasing me. i got enoguh. |
| 10:44.27 | hardisk | hahahahaa |
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| 10:44.41 | hardisk | utrrrongeeb, At first I read "that's what SHE said" |
| 10:44.42 | wathek | Hi all |
| 10:44.47 | hardisk | utrrrongeeb, thanks for making my day |
| 10:44.52 | ibrahim | babilen: how to stop the terminal now? |
| 10:44.55 | babilen | ibrahim: We are not teasing you. Just trying to safe you and us a lot of work. |
| 10:44.58 | hardisk | CTRL + Z |
| 10:45.09 | hardisk | Harcore tough, but it will stop |
| 10:45.13 | wathek | how can I change the encoding of my terminal ? cause when I do ls in command line (text mode) I cannot see the é, è, à, etc |
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| 10:45.21 | wathek | I'm getting weird caracteres |
| 10:45.24 | ttiicc | Hello guys I'm thinking of installing Debain 6 with out gnome. I would like to have it with KDE and LXDE. Is a image available with this configuration? Or if not how would I be able to get this configuration the easiest way? |
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| 10:45.38 | hardisk | wathek, dpkg-reconfigure ... uhh wait, forgot the debian package name |
| 10:45.42 | babilen | ibrahim: do ctrl-z and paste what it is doing right now to http://paste.debian.net |
| 10:45.45 | utrrrongeeb | wathek: is this a case where you can run 'reset'? |
| 10:45.58 | wathek | utrrrongeeb, run reset ? |
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| 10:46.16 | wathek | utrrrongeeb, I dunno |
| 10:46.35 | ibrahim | fine, a lot of my internet quota is gone for nothing. |
| 10:46.38 | ibrahim | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/106845/ |
| 10:46.42 | utrrrongeeb | wathek: sorry, that's for a similar error.... |
| 10:46.42 | wathek | hardisk, utrrrongeeb, but even with vi I cannot see those chars |
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| 10:46.51 | babilen | ibrahim: It is not. The files are saved. |
| 10:47.01 | EmleyMoor | ibrahim: No it isn't - the same stuff will not be double-downloaded |
| 10:47.06 | utrrrongeeb | wathek: This is a recurring problem? |
| 10:47.07 | babilen | ibrahim: Wonderful! *phew* |
| 10:47.10 | hardisk | wathek, uh, I don't know so, I was going to make you reconfigure your tty configuration |
| 10:47.10 | ibrahim | I hope so! |
| 10:47.11 | babilen | Just in time. :) |
| 10:47.13 | Cozminsky | hrm, tex seems to be trying to commit seppuku |
| 10:47.22 | ttiicc | anyone with an idea for my question about desktops with debian 6? which I asked 11:45 |
| 10:47.28 | babilen | ibrahim: Ok, now do "fg" and then cancel it with "CTRL-C" |
| 10:47.35 | wathek | utrrrongeeb, yes it seems to be |
| 10:47.46 | hardisk | ttiicc, just install it without any X server, and install it after |
| 10:47.47 | ibrahim | as a command, fg? |
| 10:47.48 | EmleyMoor | ttiicc: I will look when 11:45 comes then |
| 10:47.52 | babilen | ibrahim: yes |
| 10:47.54 | hardisk | ttiicc, it's fairly easy within down |
| 10:47.59 | hardisk | ttiicc, debian* |
| 10:48.06 | EmleyMoor | (it's only 10:47 here) |
| 10:48.10 | babilen | ibrahim: short for "foreground" |
| 10:48.11 | utrrrongeeb | ttiicc: You can do a network install? |
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| 10:48.21 | hardisk | EmleyMoor, 11:48 here, you are 3 minutes late! muhhaha |
| 10:48.23 | ttiicc | yes I can do a network install |
| 10:48.30 | ansgar | ttiicc: There are KDE, XFCE images, I'm not sure about LXDE. Or use the netinst image. |
| 10:48.38 | ibrahim | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/106846/ |
| 10:48.43 | hardisk | Why a netinstall? Regular install w/o the X server would also work |
| 10:48.51 | babilen | ibrahim: Perfect :) |
| 10:49.11 | utrrrongeeb | ttiicc: Did you want to boot from CD- or DVD-R? |
| 10:49.11 | ttiicc | so I should run a network install and during installation it will promt me for KDE or gnome? |
| 10:49.16 | babilen | yay -- the cookies helped! (/me should have thought about that long time ago) |
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| 10:49.20 | ttiicc | from CD |
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| 10:49.27 | ibrahim | lol. |
| 10:49.55 | hardisk | babilen, hahaha, when it dosn't work, do not re-configure it, just throw it a cookie! |
| 10:50.14 | EmleyMoor | # C is for cookie... |
| 10:50.16 | utrrrongeeb | ttiicc: I don't know for certain -- I haven't done it enough -- but there are KDE and LXDE ISOs -- you could get one of those, install from it, and then install the other desktop environment from the web |
| 10:50.18 | ibrahim | what's next for me babilen? |
| 10:50.19 | hardisk | I should throw cookies to my server |
| 10:50.30 | Cozminsky | heh, supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Debian release: 6.0 |
| 10:50.36 | hardisk | But if I was doing that, my server would be under a cookie mountain.. |
| 10:50.39 | EmleyMoor | ibrahim: Read and follow the relevant section of the release notes |
| 10:51.01 | marisn | how to find file owner package? (Gentoo version is "equery b /path/to/file") |
| 10:51.08 | ibrahim | EmleyMoor: the idea upgrading the kernel first, then the whole software? |
| 10:51.14 | babilen | ibrahim: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrade-process (check that your sources are correct and proceed to 4.4.1) |
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| 10:51.28 | ibrahim | ok babilen. |
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| 10:52.03 | babilen | ibrahim: You can paste your sources.list for us to have a look. |
| 10:52.05 | ansgar | ttiicc: I vaguely remember there is an option in the boot menu (maybe hidden under advanced), but I may be wrong. Otherweise just install a base system (without the Desktop task) and install your favorite desktop environment later with apt-get. |
| 10:52.17 | ansgar | marisn: dpkg -S |
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| 10:52.33 | adac | what is the package that contains all gc and so on compile stuff |
| 10:52.37 | adac | gcc |
| 10:52.40 | marisn | ansgar: tnx |
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| 10:52.58 | Iridos | "bulid-essential" |
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| 10:53.09 | EmleyMoor | build-essential |
| 10:53.21 | JyZyXEL | is it possible to debootstrap a 64bit system from 32bit system? |
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| 10:53.37 | ajikeshi | JyZyXEL, yes |
| 10:53.40 | adac | ahh ok thx!! |
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| 10:54.09 | nnnfu | what could cause intermittent connection loss (reset by peer, broken pipe, etc), i have eliminated the cable, switch port and NIC |
| 10:54.17 | babilen | ibrahim: hmm? |
| 10:54.21 | JyZyXEL | ajikeshi: how? |
| 10:54.31 | ajikeshi | specify your arch |
| 10:54.33 | EmleyMoor | nnnfu: Any particular sites affected? |
| 10:54.36 | ajikeshi | when debootstraping |
| 10:54.49 | JyZyXEL | i386 and amd64 |
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| 10:55.33 | ansgar | JyZyXEL: I believe only when you have a 64bit kernel. I don't think you can run 64bit binaries otherwise. If you use debootstrap, there's a --foreign option that might make that possible, but I have never used it. |
| 10:56.22 | ajikeshi | ansgar, i think i tried it once from 32bit to amd64 and it worked... |
| 10:56.42 | babilen | ibrahim: What is your status? |
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| 10:57.25 | Cozminsky | there are 64bit kernels in i386 |
| 10:57.29 | ttiicc | it there an image of debian 6 with KDE instead of gnome? |
| 10:57.42 | nnnfu | EmleyMoor or anyone else that answered i lost the connection again, please repeat any replies |
| 10:57.49 | utrrrongeeb | ttiicc: Yes. There is also one with LXDE. However, they're DVDs.... |
| 10:57.57 | ajikeshi | ansgar, oh.. you were right... you need a 64bit kernel to do that |
| 10:58.11 | EmleyMoor | nnnfu: Is it just IRC affected or other stuff too? |
| 10:58.12 | ksk | ttiicc: take sth smaller and install it yourself? |
| 10:58.51 | ansgar | ttiicc: Yes, look at the bottom of the list of images (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/). |
| 10:58.54 | Cozminsky | ttiicc: any of them will install kde instead of gnome if you select it |
| 10:58.57 | nnnfu | EmleyMoor, irc, ssh, http, seems like every active TCP connection drops, all at the same time too |
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| 10:59.31 | EmleyMoor | nnnfu: Your router? Your ISP's kit? |
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| 10:59.56 | nnnfu | EmleyMoor, the box is my router, and my straight connection to the cable modem is fine |
| 10:59.59 | AD[WarWalk] | Hm. Will a distribution upgrade (from lenny to squeeze) revert unstable packages to stable? I'm currently having some problems because I installed playonlinux from sid's repository, and looking for possible fixes. |
| 11:00.07 | utrrrongeeb | ttiicc: ansgar's link was for amd64 -- is that your arch? |
| 11:00.33 | ttiicc | thanks I found it at the bottom of the list! |
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| 11:01.16 | nnnfu | EmleyMoor, sorry... back again |
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| 11:01.45 | EmleyMoor | nnnfu: It is a difficult one... could it be a fault at your ISP? |
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| 11:06.26 | ibrahim | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/106850/ |
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| 11:07.06 | ibrahim | i just changed all "lenny" to "squeeze" there by command nano and save. |
| 11:07.10 | c7p | hello all, i want to replace the non-free nvidia drivers that i installed with the free drivers, any help ? |
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| 11:10.18 | ibrahim | babilen: are you around? |
| 11:10.54 | babilen | ibrahim: yes, one second |
| 11:11.02 | ibrahim | k |
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| 11:17.41 | babilen | ibrahim: Do you also plan to install non-free software like flash? |
| 11:17.58 | ibrahim | yes. what do you think? |
| 11:18.05 | hardisk | x) |
| 11:18.25 | hardisk | babilen, but yes I mean, why should we care about freedom? [/troll] |
| 11:18.26 | ibrahim | slaps hardisk |
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| 11:19.28 | babilen | ibrahim: ok, use http://paste.debian.net/106817 â "aptitude update" and proceed with 4.4.1 |
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| 11:19.58 | ibrahim | ok, a sec. |
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| 11:23.06 | babilen | ibrahim: volatile is now "squeeze-updates" (stable-updates) as mentioned earlier in the release notes |
| 11:23.19 | ibrahim | ok, good. |
| 11:23.26 | ibrahim | you mean, "# apt-get update" babilen? |
| 11:23.48 | babilen | both work, but yes stick to apt-get for the upgrade |
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| 11:24.55 | ibrahim | babilen: finished like this: http://paste.debian.net/106855/ |
| 11:24.59 | ibrahim | am i doing right? |
| 11:25.37 | babilen | no, you are not using the sources.list i gave you :) -- volatile is no more |
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| 11:26.15 | ibrahim | i edited the sources.list as you told me to do. |
| 11:26.18 | ibrahim | let me show you. |
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| 11:27.02 | ibrahim | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/106856/ |
| 11:27.17 | ham5 | squeeze not in volatile, only stable and lenny |
| 11:27.24 | ham5 | fix again |
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| 11:28.24 | babilen | ibrahim: Please. Use *exactly* the sources.list i gave you http://paste.debian.net/106817 (just remove everything from yours and paste mine in) |
| 11:28.40 | ibrahim | ok. |
| 11:28.48 | ham5 | now! |
| 11:30.36 | ibrahim | babilen: apt-get update finished like this after your sources.list --> http://paste.debian.net/106859/ |
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| 11:31.05 | babilen | ibrahim: Looks better, but hard to say with incomplete output. :) |
| 11:31.10 | D4rKr0W | mhm, can i post to debian-user without being subscribed to the list? |
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| 11:31.39 | ibrahim | babilen: ok, let's say it's done. but teff said to upgrade the kernel first? |
| 11:32.00 | babilen | D4rKr0W: yes, it'll take longer though. You might want to subscribe to http://lists.debian.org/whitelist/ |
| 11:32.28 | babilen | ibrahim: Please proceed with 4.4.1 in the release notes |
| 11:32.36 | D4rKr0W | thanks babilen |
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| 11:32.49 | babilen | no problem |
| 11:32.55 | ibrahim | ok. |
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| 11:44.12 | D4rKr0W | anyone uses ask.debian.net? |
| 11:44.28 | quuxman | is there an easy way to get find to omit . without using another process, like "find | tail -n +1" |
| 11:44.30 | ham5 | ughh... |
| 11:44.32 | ham5 | !anyone |
| 11:44.32 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 11:45.40 | D4rKr0W | ham5: it's the debian Q&A, not some random package :P |
| 11:45.53 | quuxman | er, that would be `find | tail -n +2`, but anyway, my question still stands |
| 11:45.54 | ham5 | anyone? |
| 11:45.57 | Cozminsky | um, that was a perfectly legit question |
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| 11:46.12 | babilen | ibrahim: How is it going? |
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| 11:46.33 | ibrahim | i sent "apt-get upgrade" |
| 11:46.58 | ibrahim | the terminal works on it.. downloading files, it seems. |
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| 11:47.38 | babilen | 4.4.4 :) yay! |
| 11:47.51 | ibrahim | i am doing right? |
| 11:48.01 | Seb | quuxman: -mindepth 1 ? |
| 11:48.04 | ibrahim | i guess, it's downloading according to your sources.list |
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| 11:48.58 | Cozminsky | quuxman: you want to omit everything in the current directory, or just the directory itself? |
| 11:49.07 | quuxman | Seb: ah, cool. I will alias that |
| 11:49.17 | D4rKr0W | i installed lm-sensors and this is the output: http://paste.debian.net/106861/ should i worry about the alarms? i can't really tell what's going on cause i don't have physical acces to the machine |
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| 11:50.14 | ham5 | hard to tell what those in's actually are, but no i wouldent worrie |
| 11:50.41 | matt_palmer | can anyone help with the SSH PRNG probs on squeeze? |
| 11:50.49 | ham5 | those min and max are settable |
| 11:50.49 | ibrahim | Brb. |
| 11:51.02 | D4rKr0W | that was my same guess, ham5, thing is the machine is freezing on heavy load |
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| 11:51.05 | olleolleolle | Having some trouble with calendarserver. http://pastie.org/private/nsgcounwbwqamopiyd8yoq is my install and startup experience. Is it the wrong twistd version? |
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| 11:51.57 | themill | hardisk: (not sure if you've fixed your problem yet) the fact that your page works for me with both a browser and with wget tells me that it's not a misconfiguration but your user agent or an intermediate http proxy lying to you. |
| 11:52.25 | hardisk | themill, I'm @school , it migh be that |
| 11:52.32 | hardisk | They use a Vyatta to censor our internet |
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| 11:53.03 | hardisk | themill, thanks, gonna try @ home |
| 11:53.09 | ham5 | hard telling D4rKr0W, if vcore is to low that might lock you up, but your voltages are over for the most part |
| 11:53.15 | olleolleolle | twisted hits me with the error message "/usr/bin/twistd: Unknown command: caldav" |
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| 11:53.55 | bobo_b | Hi. How can I can find out what an update does (that is available via aptitude upgrade)? |
| 11:54.19 | ham5 | wtf you mean what it does, it updates |
| 11:54.30 | ham5 | installs files from the new package |
| 11:54.38 | bobo_b | heh, i mean what the update is about |
| 11:54.45 | themill | !apt-listchanges |
| 11:54.45 | dpkg | well, apt-listchanges is a package that shows you the NEWS.Debian and/or the Debian changelogs for packages before upgrading them. It is well worth it for stable users, to see what is happening to their machines as they apply security fixes. It should be made _mandatory_ for users of testing and unstable. Also ask me about <d-d-a>, <apt-listbugs>. |
| 11:55.02 | D4rKr0W | ham5: i'm pretty clueless about this whole freezing stuff. I just got the machine and it's randomly going offline. I don't actually know what happens, cause there's very little info on the logs and the only thing i can do to have it back online is a hard reset through the datacenter interface |
| 11:55.03 | olleolleolle | Oh, could it be a misconfigured PYTHONPATH, making twistd look in the wrong place! |
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| 11:55.45 | bobo_b | themill: thanks |
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| 11:56.38 | ham5 | D4rKr0W: yeah man its hard telling, under load like you say, sounds like hardware, mabey memory or cpu under voltage? is it a new build? just does this with debain? |
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| 11:57.28 | D4rKr0W | i tried ubuntu 10.04 amd64 and 10.10 amd64, now the machine is running squeeze x86 |
| 11:57.48 | D4rKr0W | all of them are freezing up :( |
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| 11:58.10 | ham5 | run memtest? |
| 11:58.17 | D4rKr0W | i asked the datacenter to perform a hw check but they tested it for 8hours with no errors |
| 11:58.44 | ham5 | why would 3 new installs freeze up then |
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| 11:59.02 | D4rKr0W | i wanna know that too :P |
| 11:59.14 | ham5 | getcha a new data center ;) |
| 12:00.08 | D4rKr0W | i thought about it, but service so far has been awesome with this one and the prices are competitive aswell so i'm not really keen on changing company |
| 12:00.41 | ham5 | they install the os for you? |
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| 12:01.30 | Bushmills | D4rKr0W: maybe you're dossed. run a minutely crontab which outputs relevant things to /your/dir/$(date +%s), and sync. "relevant" may be ps aux, netstat -lunt, iptables -nvL etc |
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| 12:02.27 | quuxman | aaaarhg! I can't get gnome-terminal's cursor to stop blinking. `gconftool -g /desktop/gnome/interface/cursor_blink` returns false |
| 12:02.42 | quuxman | According to some googling, this is the correct key |
| 12:03.18 | quuxman | why did they have to remove that option from the interface? Bloody hell |
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| 12:04.26 | cusco | quuxman: try #gnome ... |
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| 12:04.32 | D4rKr0W | ham5: kinda, they have an installscript that uses some image to install the oses, but i used the script myself |
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| 12:05.33 | D4rKr0W | Bushmills: is it possible that the network load that i am generating is taking the machine down? |
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| 12:05.59 | Bushmills | extremely unlikely |
| 12:06.04 | quuxman | cusco: that channel is pretty dead as of now |
| 12:06.34 | D4rKr0W | Bushmills: the freezes only appear when rtorrent is running and it's generating 10-11MBps traffic |
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| 12:07.09 | Bushmills | the OS won't have a problem with your NICs operating at maximum |
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| 12:09.27 | D4rKr0W | i was wondering if it could have been a network driver bug, seeing how i had to apt-get install firmware-realtek |
| 12:10.14 | magesing | Hi guys, I just upgraded from lenny to squeeze following the insturctions I got from /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze. Before the upgrade I had the kernel image from backports installed (2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64). I installed the version not from backports but it didn't show up in the automagic kernels list in /boot/grub/menu.lst . What is the best way to go from the backports kernel to the squeeze kernel? |
| 12:10.15 | D4rKr0W | anyway, i will add more stuff to munin later |
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| 12:13.51 | Cozminsky | D4rKr0W: if you have another machine you could try setting up syslog to the other machine |
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| 12:14.16 | Cozminsky | D4rKr0W: you might find some message from the kernel after it has been unable to write to local disk |
| 12:14.29 | bobo_b | apt-listchanges crashed with a python error :-/ |
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| 12:15.10 | quuxman | YAY! this did the trick: echo 'gtk-cursor-blink = 0' >> ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
| 12:15.42 | quuxman | DEATH to all blinking cursors! |
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| 12:16.24 | magesing | in grub2 are the boot options still configured in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
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| 12:17.49 | ham5 | um no |
| 12:18.06 | ham5 | their is a cfg file |
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| 12:25.04 | ibrahim | babilen: do we also need "4.4.5. Upgrading the kernel and udev" after this minimal system update or this upgrade also updates the kernel too? |
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| 12:26.53 | simonrvn | anyone else seen screwed up fonts with opengl or sdl apps ? |
| 12:26.58 | teff | ibrahim: you need to do the kernel bit, that's why its written |
| 12:27.15 | ham5 | !anyone could do this all day |
| 12:27.20 | babilen | ibrahim: yes, please do that. you need to update the kernel and udev before the rest of the system |
| 12:27.21 | simonrvn | i wanna file a bug report, but i don't know what to file it on... fontconfig, xorg, what |
| 12:27.32 | ibrahim | ok teff. |
| 12:27.42 | teff | and reboot |
| 12:28.01 | ibrahim | before the rest of the system, babilen? isn't it updating the whole system on step 4.4.4? |
| 12:28.39 | quuxman | so I have this irritating problem where xrandr won't let me make an independent head unless I add "Virtual 2646 960" to my xorg.conf. But when that's there, xrandr won't let me rotate my screen |
| 12:29.21 | quuxman | so I can either have rotation, or a second head, but not both at the same time. So whenever I unplug my external monitor, I have to remove that line and restart X if I want to say, read a book |
| 12:30.14 | quuxman | needless to say, it's pretty irritating |
| 12:30.21 | babilen | ibrahim: No, 4.4.4 is a minimal system upgrade. Just follow along and you'll be fine. :) (i.e. install the kernel+udev now and reboot) |
| 12:30.33 | babilen | ibrahim: 4.4.5 |
| 12:30.51 | ibrahim | ok. :) 77% of 4.4.4 |
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| 12:31.15 | Matt- | Hello! |
| 12:31.27 | rullo90 | hello |
| 12:31.45 | quuxman | but hey, at least I can do both after some tweaking. xorg has come a long way :) |
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| 12:32.18 | Matt- | I'm trying to copy a file (almost 700mb) to my pendrive, somehow it's not working, when I copy it using the shell it doesn't give me the prompt again. any idea? |
| 12:32.18 | quuxman | My question is this even a bug? And if so, who would I report it to? |
| 12:32.21 | teff | ibrahim: and don't forget to update grub before reboot |
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| 12:33.42 | crodjer | any suggestions about how to deal with the mic recording problems? |
| 12:33.43 | ibrahim | teff: where is it on the release notes? |
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| 12:33.51 | Matt- | I tried to unmount it but it says it's busy so I just removed the pendrive. just before that the md5sum was ok but after I removed it I connected it again and it doesn't match anymore |
| 12:34.37 | Matt- | I was trying again, it just finished! checking the md5sum... |
| 12:34.47 | Matt- | what a weird thing... |
| 12:35.15 | teff | ibrahim: don't know whether it is on there. maybe it acutally happens automatically. uname-r after reboot |
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| 12:35.44 | ibrahim | ok. |
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| 12:37.45 | ham5 | OS: Linux version 2.6.37h3k ( Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid ) |
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| 12:43.18 | simonrvn | ,versions libgl1-mesa-dev |
| 12:43.19 | judd | Package libgl1-mesa-dev on i386 -- lenny: 7.0.3-7; squeeze: 7.7.1-4; wheezy: 7.7.1-4; sid: 7.10-2 |
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| 12:44.39 | txxt | so sweet, easy and quick my update to squeeze ;) |
| 12:45.43 | Matt- | it worked! |
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| 12:48.49 | frikinz | How do you mount a samba share in kde4 ? I can browse it in dolphin, in konqueror but then in libreoffice, I don't see how to put my file in the share... |
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| 12:49.57 | frikinz | And I don't want to type horribly long commands for each of the hundred shares.. |
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| 12:51.03 | lamah | what version of grub uses 6.0.0 squeeze? |
| 12:51.16 | abrotman | lamah: grub2 .. packages.debian.org/grub-pc |
| 12:52.15 | ibrahim | babilen, teff: to update the kernel on step 4.4.5, i've sent this command "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.26-2amd64" |
| 12:52.16 | lamah | 10x |
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| 12:52.32 | ibrahim | here is the output: E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.26-2amd64 |
| 12:52.51 | abrotman | linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 |
| 12:53.10 | ibrahim | a ha! |
| 12:53.13 | ibrahim | thanks abrotman. |
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| 12:53.31 | abrotman | ibrahim: in general, `apt-get install linux-image-2.6-amd64' |
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| 12:53.51 | ibrahim | abrotman: i got the full name "uname -r" |
| 12:53.55 | ibrahim | teff told me to do that. |
| 12:54.04 | abrotman | you missed a - |
| 12:54.08 | abrotman | but the metapackage should suffice |
| 12:54.13 | ibrahim | so, "linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 is already the newest version." it says. |
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| 12:55.00 | ibrahim | abrotman: how to update the grub? |
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| 12:55.51 | babilen | ibrahim: The release notes ask you to "apt-get install linux-image-2.6-flavor" where flavor is {amd64,i386,...} |
| 12:56.19 | ibrahim | yes, i guess, i updated the kernel via that command, babilen. |
| 12:56.29 | ibrahim | terminal told me that "linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 is already the newest version." |
| 12:57.13 | ibrahim | how can i update "grub" babilen? |
| 12:58.15 | sphenxes | Happy Birthday Debian. Thanks for Squeeze. |
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| 12:58.44 | datalay | ibrahim, turkmusun garda$ |
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| 12:59.23 | ibrahim | datalay: evet. |
| 12:59.34 | datalay | english please |
| 13:00.55 | babilen | ibrahim: No need to do that manually. Make sure you have a new kernel (2.6.32) installed (aptitude search ~i~n^linux-image) and reboot |
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| 13:03.24 | babilen | ibrahim: Keep it in the channel please |
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| 13:03.58 | babilen | ibrahim: Make sure the kernel is installed and that "update-grub" ran during the installation (it should) and reboot now |
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| 13:04.02 | ibrahim | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/106864/ |
| 13:04.20 | babilen | ibrahim: What is the warning you get? |
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| 13:04.37 | ibrahim | warning? |
| 13:04.41 | brabo | hm i'm trying to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, but when i run aptitude update, i get this error: W: GPG error: http://ftp.belnet.be wheezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2, is there a gpg key i need to download from somewhere? |
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| 13:04.50 | ibrahim | just it warned me to reboot with a popup on the top. |
| 13:04.55 | babilen | ibrahim: " now it requires to reboot and warns me. :)" |
| 13:04.57 | ibrahim | after installing udev. |
| 13:05.04 | babilen | yes, please reboot |
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| 13:05.28 | ibrahim | do i have linux 2.6.32? |
| 13:05.29 | themill | ibrahim: you would be better not to do this upgrade while logged in to X |
| 13:05.38 | BarbaraBush | hmm is #debian-kbsd not used yet? |
| 13:05.58 | ibrahim | what do you mean themill? X? |
| 13:06.06 | BarbaraBush | ah my bad, wrong network lol |
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| 13:06.13 | colo-work | hi everyone |
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| 13:07.00 | lamah | which number in inittab is for non auto-login to X ? |
| 13:07.43 | ibrahim | ok then rebooting, babilen, |
| 13:08.20 | iqpi | lamah: 5 |
| 13:08.50 | babilen | ibrahim: And yes, don't do this from within the graphical environment. |
| 13:08.57 | colo-work | I'm battling with preseeding and automatic installation for the first time. the documentation mentions a boot parameter for the installer, in the form of "auto-install/classes=classA;classB;etc" - that looks like I could group together common settings for different "tags" assigned to each machine. |
| 13:09.17 | colo-work | I don't understand how I get to define what each class should mean, however |
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| 13:13.12 | lamah | iqpi: thanks :))))))))) |
| 13:14.05 | themill | lamah, iqpi: that's not correct. |
| 13:14.06 | frikinz | smb4k to mount a remote smb share in kde4. |
| 13:14.17 | themill | lamah: please don't ask in multiple places at the same time. |
| 13:15.11 | XLV | anyone here uses dell perc5 controller? with debianso, i read in some links that the hdds connected to dell perc5 are visible from linux, along with whatever raid array you set up http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279687 .. this would be great, cause i am thinking of getting a used perc5 i found for cheap, but not use its raid5 hardware functions, but continue using linux software raid5 i do now, as a way to further decrease the possibilities of problem |
| 13:15.11 | XLV | s with controller dieing, or misbehaving, and also keeping the possibility of moving the array easily to different type of controller. so i would want to verify that that function of perc5 is as described, before i get the perc5 controller. so basically for the time being at least, i would like to use the perc5 conroller as a simple sata/sas controller, i was thinking it would be possible if i set raid0 or 1 arrays each containing a single hdd connected to th |
| 13:15.12 | XLV | e perc5, but if i dont even need to do that ( as it seems ) it would be even better |
| 13:15.53 | themill | XLV: War and Peace in 450 character chunks ftw |
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| 13:16.35 | XLV | themill, yeah. i should compress those |
| 13:16.45 | XLV | gzip then rot them |
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| 13:17.06 | babilen | XLV: yeah, it would be even more unreadable then :-þ |
| 13:17.44 | lamah | themill: what about runlevel changing ? |
| 13:17.45 | XLV | babilen, but it would intrigue you, so you'd devote the effort to decifer and possibly understand :P |
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| 13:21.16 | lamah | themill: can i stop autologin with runlevel changing without removeing graphical manager? |
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| 13:22.09 | themill | lamah: yes. As dpkg told you on oftc. |
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| 13:22.25 | lamah | ?! |
| 13:23.00 | ibrahim | babilen: after reboot i've sent "# apt-get dist-upgrade" as told in the release notes step 4.4.6 |
| 13:23.02 | lamah | themill: ah u mean with rc stop |
| 13:23.07 | lamah | maybe ? |
| 13:23.08 | ibrahim | do i need to do anything after that? |
| 13:23.12 | lamah | and what is a oftc |
| 13:23.21 | babilen | ibrahim: don't do this from withing the graphical environment! |
| 13:23.58 | ibrahim | hm? what do you mean? it's on the terminal again. |
| 13:24.08 | babilen | ibrahim: (release notes 4.1.5) -- CTRL-ALT-F1 + log in as root + invoke-rc.d gdm3 stop |
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| 13:24.21 | babilen | (or gdm stop if you use that) |
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| 13:26.23 | ibrahim | babilen: what's it downloading again then with the command "# apt-get dist-upgrade" on the terminal? |
| 13:26.33 | babilen | yes |
| 13:26.45 | ibrahim | and i didn't get what you mean "the graphical environment"? |
| 13:27.15 | babilen | do it outside of X (the graphical environment) -- it will not work from inside it because the graphical system itself is upgraded |
| 13:27.27 | masterkorp | hello, i just got a problem with the resolution of my computer in gnome the computer now can only use 800x6000 resolution |
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| 13:28.02 | babilen | ibrahim: you are using gnome or something like that. kde, lxde etc. I mean "graphical environment" as opposed to the console you get when you do "ctrl-alt-f1" |
| 13:28.26 | ibrahim | i am using gnome. |
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| 13:28.45 | makakut | hi |
| 13:28.48 | babilen | ibrahim: Please CTRL-Z the apt-get run .. hope that it is downloading, "fg" it again, stop it with "ctrl-c" move to a console (ctrl-alt-f1) |
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| 13:29.46 | babilen | ibrahim: log into the console as root and stop gnome (invoke-rc.d gdm stop OR invoke-rc.d gdm3 stop) and run "apt-get dist-upgrade" there |
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| 13:30.11 | babilen | ibrahim: I mean, just make sure apt-get is still downloading and cancel it then ... |
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| 13:30.32 | masterkorp | here is my xorg.conf : http://pastebin.com/56DtSvRe |
| 13:30.36 | masterkorp | any idea ? |
| 13:31.58 | albink | |
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| 13:32.40 | XLV | masterkorp, your xorg.conf doesnt have any settings for video card or monitor |
| 13:32.51 | ibrahim | babilen: ctrl + alt + f1 and ibrahim login: page comes there. what should i do there? |
| 13:33.01 | XLV | so xorg uses the lowest possible failsafe settings, vesa framebuffer and lowest res |
| 13:33.11 | XLV | you need to configure it properly |
| 13:33.30 | masterkorp | here is my Xorg.log : http://pastebin.com/G7ghJcUh |
| 13:33.30 | babilen | ibrahim: What do you mean by "page comes there" ? |
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| 13:33.51 | armetiz | Hi there.. I have some trouble about MTA... I'm dying.. |
| 13:33.56 | masterkorp | XLV: but it was alright before, i use an intel onborad graphics card |
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| 13:34.37 | masterkorp | XLV: any tip on how to do that ? |
| 13:34.43 | babilen | ibrahim: just stop the apt-get run, log into the console and perform the upgrade from there |
| 13:34.50 | ibrahim | the black screen. ibrahim login page. |
| 13:34.57 | XLV | from xorg.log it seems you're using via igp |
| 13:35.16 | masterkorp | does still uses the centralized xorg conf file or the xorg.conf.d directory? |
| 13:35.22 | babilen | masterkorp: please paste "lspci -nn|grep -i vga" in here please :) |
| 13:35.30 | armetiz | I have to send email from keepalived or other tools.. But they can't SMTP AUTH.. So, I think the best solution to be able to send mail is to set up a SMTP Relay with any SMTP AUTH from private network.. And this server will relay mail to an other SMTP Server using SMTP AUTH.. |
| 13:35.46 | babilen | masterkorp: squeeze uses xorg.conf.d |
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| 13:36.14 | masterkorp | babilen: http://pastebin.com/CZBG4LBN |
| 13:36.16 | armetiz | I have try Exim.. But.. It's really.. Really... reallllllly # incomprehensible, I speak about documentation |
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| 13:36.29 | masterkorp | babilen: i will problaby upgarde to debian 6 soon |
| 13:36.31 | armetiz | Do you have any clue ? Do not use Exim ? |
| 13:36.31 | ibrahim | i have stopped apt-get run, no terminal window open. |
| 13:36.47 | babilen | ,xorg 1106:3118 |
| 13:36.49 | judd | In squeeze, device 1106:3118 is matched by xorg driver: 'openchrome'. |
| 13:37.00 | babilen | ,pciid 1106:3118 |
| 13:37.02 | judd | [1106:3118] is 'CN400/PM800/PM880/PN800/PN880 [S3 UniChrome Pro]' from 'VIA Technologies, Inc.' with kernel module 'viafb' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1106:3118 |
| 13:37.05 | ibrahim | ok when i press ctrl + alt + f1 there comes a black screen and says "ibrahim login" |
| 13:37.16 | ibrahim | ok babilen i will log in there as root, then what i need to do? what commands? |
| 13:37.27 | babilen | ibrahim: wonderful -- log in with username "root" and give your root password |
| 13:37.41 | ibrahim | ok, then? |
| 13:37.44 | masterkorp | so any idea ? |
| 13:37.58 | ibrahim | how to coma back here when I press ctrl + alt + f1? |
| 13:38.03 | ibrahim | *come |
| 13:38.04 | babilen | ibrahim: Just continue the upgrade with "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
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| 13:38.32 | ibrahim | ah that command for the black screen? |
| 13:38.35 | babilen | ibrahim: But please run "invoke-rc.d gdm stop" or (if that did not work) "invoke-rc.d gdm3 stop" |
| 13:38.36 | ibrahim | Ok. :) |
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| 13:39.07 | ibrahim | before dist-upgrade> |
| 13:39.07 | ibrahim | *? |
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| 13:39.25 | buntunub | is that the same thing as service gdm stop |
| 13:40.00 | babilen | ibrahim: yes, before dist-upgrade |
| 13:40.32 | teff | babilen: are you sure he upgraded kernel and udev and rebooted? |
| 13:40.36 | masterkorp | please any help ? |
| 13:40.38 | ibrahim | and babilen last question: can I move between the windows, I mean here and that black screen after ctrl + alt + f1? |
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| 13:40.54 | babilen | teff: yes |
| 13:41.00 | teff | ibrahim: f7 is usually the x-server |
| 13:41.06 | teff | babilen: ;) |
| 13:41.20 | masterkorp | babilen: did you get something ? |
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| 13:41.33 | ibrahim | how to come back here again, teff? |
| 13:41.37 | ibrahim | again F7? |
| 13:41.57 | teff | alt-ctrl-f7 works for me |
| 13:42.11 | babilen | ibrahim: CTRL-ALT-F7 â "here" (graphical) CTRL-ALT-F1 â "there" (console / ominous black screen) |
| 13:42.24 | Bushmills | or chvt 1 ... 7 |
| 13:42.28 | teff | theory of mind at its best*g* |
| 13:42.53 | ibrahim | Ok. |
| 13:42.58 | masterkorp | babilen: the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" doesn't do nothing |
| 13:44.16 | sameerthahir | hello all, I just have two DVDs of squeeze atm. Is it OK to do a dist-upgrade on lenny with those or is it safe to have the complete set. thanks |
| 13:44.20 | ibrahim | ibrahim login: XXX then asks for Pasword. XXX isn't my username? |
| 13:44.32 | ibrahim | and Password isn't my root password? |
| 13:44.38 | ibrahim | it didn't accept both. |
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| 13:45.22 | AlexC_ | g'morning |
| 13:45.28 | masterkorp | any idea ? |
| 13:45.32 | babilen | ibrahim: username is "root" and password is the root password you configured during the install |
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| 13:45.46 | OpenTokix | mine is root to |
| 13:45.50 | OpenTokix | oh, damnit... |
| 13:46.06 | buntunub | i didnt elect to have a root account at install .. it asks you if you want one or not |
| 13:46.30 | masterkorp | babilen: any sugestion ? |
| 13:46.31 | babilen | ibrahim: You could also login with your user, and your user's password and then become root with "su" or use "sudo" if you have that configured |
| 13:46.46 | ibrahim | ok babilen. |
| 13:46.48 | buntunub | he probably only has sudo |
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| 13:46.52 | babilen | masterkorp: Sorry, not off head and I am trying to take a break soon |
| 13:46.54 | ibrahim | it says "I have a mail" |
| 13:46.55 | buntunub | and sudoers might not be setup |
| 13:46.55 | ibrahim | :D |
| 13:47.20 | buntunub | visudo |
| 13:47.31 | AlexC_ | are there any implications of compiling on package on Debian Lenny for use on Squeeze? |
| 13:47.42 | buntunub | username ALL = ALL(ALL) |
| 13:47.44 | babilen | buntunub: Please don't make this more complicated than it already is |
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| 13:48.00 | buntunub | lol sorry babilen |
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| 13:48.12 | XLV | masterkorp, the xorg.conf you posted resides in /etc/X11 ? |
| 13:48.56 | masterkorp | XLV: yes |
| 13:49.01 | XLV | masterkorp, cause in my case, it has settings for both gpu card and monitor.. i think theres your problem |
| 13:49.05 | babilen | ibrahim: I'm off right now. You just need to run the "apt-get dist-upgrade" now and reboot if everyhting goes fine. If not, ask in here |
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| 13:49.48 | masterkorp | XLV: but how to configure the xorg.conf ? |
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| 13:50.30 | ksk | mr dpkg here tells me to use "apt-get" to squeeze my host. i guess using aptitude is fine, too? |
| 13:50.38 | XLV | masterkorp, if all else fails, its just a text file |
| 13:50.44 | teff | ksk: not according to the release notes |
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| 13:51.02 | arand | How do I request a package update? |
| 13:51.06 | ksk | mhmpf. thanks teff |
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| 13:52.40 | babilen | masterkorp: Make sure you have xserver-xorg-video-openchrome installed. Check if it has a README.Debian and/or examples in /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome/ . Learn how to set the "openchrome" driver and create a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d (e.g. 20-openchrome.conf) with necessary settings. Make sure you do not have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf at that point |
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| 13:52.58 | masterkorp | XLV: i made this modifications : http://pastebin.com/QqQB7K3B |
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| 13:53.10 | babilen | !tell masterkorp about openchrome |
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| 13:53.18 | babilen | !tell masterkorp about xorg.conf.d |
| 13:53.29 | babilen | masterkorp: Good luck -- i'm off |
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| 13:54.41 | lamah | how can i search locally for installed package? |
| 13:55.23 | themill | lamah: they will be listed in the output of "aptitude search ~o". Other obsolete packages will also be in the output, however. |
| 13:55.26 | teff | lamah: in aptitude |
| 13:55.52 | lamah | ok |
| 13:56.02 | lamah | how can i check which graphic manager i am using |
| 13:56.09 | lamah | gdm or xdm ? |
| 13:57.02 | Bushmills | try ps aux|grep vt7 |
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| 13:58.14 | Bushmills | if you have only one installed, ls /etc/init.d/?dm would do |
| 13:58.28 | themill | "cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager" should work too |
| 13:59.18 | jyes | Hi, I face issues having vservers working on a PPC architecture after upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze. âvserver host startâ raises error: âcan not change context: migrate kernel feature missing and 'compat' API disabled: Function not implementedâ. Did anyone face the same issue? |
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| 14:00.31 | lamah | if i remove gdm3 to disable the autologin to X it wants also to remove 100 packages+ ?! |
| 14:00.32 | lamah | what is that |
| 14:00.52 | tjack | gdm ist the login manager at the beginning |
| 14:01.04 | tjack | where you type in your password |
| 14:01.06 | lamah | tjack: how can i stop autologin to X in boot? |
| 14:01.12 | themill | dpkg: tell lamah about nodm |
| 14:01.15 | Bushmills | lamah: autoinstalled recommensations, i suppose |
| 14:01.22 | Bushmills | recommendations |
| 14:01.25 | themill | lamah: just. do. what. dpkg. said. |
| 14:01.37 | tjack | ? |
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| 14:02.06 | jelly | does dpkg talk to unregistered users? |
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| 14:02.30 | themill | jelly: yes |
| 14:02.44 | tjack | lamah: please use google. many people asked this question and there are many answers |
| 14:03.04 | tjack | lamah: keywords: gnome disable autologin |
| 14:03.16 | lamah | :P |
| 14:03.34 | themill | tjack: I suspect (but cannot be sure) that "autologin" is actually not what's going on here. |
| 14:03.40 | jelly | you're in a twisty maze of search results, all alike |
| 14:04.36 | tjack | jelly: you don't want to autologin into a gnome session or you don't want to autostart X? |
| 14:05.04 | robokop | I installed gdm3 and now i can't login to the graphical session, my session ends directly after i login (it comes as far as writing things in my .xsession-errors (http://pastebin.com/SmEzMyYU for the .xsession-error file) |
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| 14:05.31 | tjack | dpkg: tell tjack about nodm |
| 14:05.43 | jelly | dpkg, tell tjack about selftell |
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| 14:06.04 | tjack | thx :) |
| 14:07.03 | teff | robokop: can you login on terminal and then start the xserver? |
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| 14:07.57 | robokop | nope, we disabled that a long time ago |
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| 14:08.44 | yang | which additional modules/packages would I need for the SATA to get recognised on a preety old VIA mobo |
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| 14:08.51 | robokop | teff: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting |
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| 14:09.20 | justin | robokop: can you login using the 'failsafe' X session? |
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| 14:10.07 | robokop | justin: the failsafe-terminal is not in the list of sessions |
| 14:10.18 | justin | oh, grr :) |
| 14:10.20 | sameerthahir | ok leaving lenny hopefully see you all in squeeze after upgrade |
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| 14:10.37 | justin | I suppose you could try installing twm or some such and try that, just to rule out a problem with gnome |
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| 14:10.47 | justin | though I don't think the problem is with the gnome session |
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| 14:11.12 | robokop | justin: tried xfce, gnome, blackbox etc |
| 14:11.30 | archlord2 | does anyone know of a debian package management cheat sheet? |
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| 14:12.25 | justin | archlord2: aptitude help |
| 14:12.55 | archlord2 | that doesnt cover apt-get though |
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| 14:13.12 | justin | a) aptitude does almost everything apt-get does. b) the commands are pretty much the same |
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| 14:13.35 | justin | including 'apt-get help' |
| 14:13.39 | archlord2 | is aptitude the recommended tool nowadays? i thought ubuntu removed it |
| 14:13.44 | Anthro | I'm trying to figure out what to put in /etc/network/interfaces to have both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses for an interface. Can someone help? |
| 14:13.51 | archlord2 | for whatever reason |
| 14:14.06 | justin | Anthro: if you do nothing you should end up with an ipv6 address too... |
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| 14:15.17 | robokop | found out that the problem is with a local xsession.d snippet, we modify the XAUTHORITY variable and move the .Xauthority file, seems like gdm doesn't honor that |
| 14:15.51 | themill | robokop: gdm3 has moved .Xauthority |
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| 14:17.13 | soma6 | squeeze volatile why dosnt work? |
| 14:17.23 | Anthro | justin: ifconfig tells me I have an IPv6 address, but I don't know where it's coming from. I want to specify it. |
| 14:17.23 | themill | dpkg: tell soma6 about squeeze volatile |
| 14:17.34 | SimonS | dpkg: tell SimonS about squeeze volatile |
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| 14:17.55 | Anthro | justin: I currently have a static IPv4 address, specified in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:18.04 | Dagger2 | Anthro: if it's in fe80::/64, it's a link-local address, generated automatically from your MAC address |
| 14:18.09 | robokop | themill: ah, it stores it in /var/run, and solves the problem why we had to move it in the beginning |
| 14:18.17 | themill | robokop: :) |
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| 14:18.38 | lamah | themill: this, it removes, now 173 packages + gdm3 package is this normal? |
| 14:18.57 | lamah | just for one stop of X on boot autologin? |
| 14:18.59 | Anthro | Dagger2: Okay, that's what it is. But it isn't what I want it to be. How do I specify static addresses for both IPv6 and IPv4? |
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| 14:19.05 | themill | lamah: you don't need to remove gdm. You can just disable it. Read what dpkg said. All of it. |
| 14:19.20 | disaster123 | Is there a way to allow a user to remove a file owned by him in a directory (User/Group: root) and rights 751? |
| 14:19.35 | lamah | themill: you tell me to remove it. don't speculate |
| 14:19.46 | themill | lamah: no I didn't. I told you to read what dpkg said. |
| 14:20.01 | soma6 | themill thx |
| 14:20.12 | lamah | Just remove the dm package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". |
| 14:20.16 | lamah | ?!? |
| 14:20.22 | robokop | themill: /home is a nfs share with different workstations, and when ssh-ing between hosts with xforwarding on the xauthority gets screwed |
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| 14:21.07 | themill | robokop: yeah, I suspect that's a motiviation for gdm3 to move it. Unfortunately it also breaks a lot of other things that assume that .Xauthority is in $HOME. |
| 14:21.32 | Dagger2 | Anthro: you can configure static v6 addresses with an inet6 block... but even if you do, you'll still have the link-local address, and I'm not sure changing the ll address makes any sense |
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| 14:21.54 | katsrc | is it possible to get iceweasel 4 beta installed on squeeze? |
| 14:22.12 | katsrc | perhaps through backports? |
| 14:22.13 | ham5 | um |
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| 14:22.38 | ham5 | experimental has |
| 14:22.43 | themill | katsrc: mozilla.debian.net has preview packages. You get to keep both bits when it breaks. |
| 14:22.50 | ham5 | ,versions iceweasel |
| 14:22.52 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-4~bpo50+1; sid: 3.5.16-4; squeeze: 3.5.16-4; wheezy: 3.5.16-4; experimental: 3.6.13-2 |
| 14:23.07 | katsrc | so what |
| 14:23.20 | katsrc | what's* the best method? |
| 14:23.20 | ham5 | compile it |
| 14:23.22 | ham5 | yourslef |
| 14:23.42 | katsrc | that's a lot compile :/ |
| 14:23.54 | katsrc | can't i pull them from experimental and put them on hold? |
| 14:24.00 | katsrc | or pin them? |
| 14:24.02 | themill | katsrc: [14:22] <themill> katsrc: mozilla.debian.net has preview packages. You get to keep both bits when it breaks. |
| 14:24.13 | mocca | running Debian Squeeze Xfce. i want to use network manager instead of default wicd. what pakage do i need and what the step i need to do? anybody can tell me ? |
| 14:24.16 | lamah | themill: how can i restore this 173 packages again |
| 14:24.26 | themill | katsrc: there aren't packges in experimental so you can' pull them in from there |
| 14:24.50 | Anthro | Dagger2: Hrm. Does it make any sense to have IPv6 behind a NAT? |
| 14:24.53 | justin | mocca: network-manager-gnome most likely |
| 14:25.12 | mocca | justin: thanks. do i need to put in startup entry |
| 14:25.22 | justin | mocca: no |
| 14:25.38 | lamah | themill: how can i restore this 173 packages again |
| 14:25.42 | justin | mocca: you would have to run the nm-applet to have it show up in your notification area though |
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| 14:26.15 | themill | lamah: you have the list of them, install them. |
| 14:26.17 | Dagger2 | Anthro: no; there's easily enough addresses to use global addresses everywhere, and if you're worried about people connecting in, put a firewall up |
| 14:26.20 | mocca | justin: thanks. I'll do that. |
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| 14:26.53 | lamah | themill: how this is impossible |
| 14:26.59 | lamah | u mean reformat and again |
| 14:27.14 | mocca | justin: 1 more q, i need to remove wicd from startup entry right? |
| 14:27.15 | katsrc | thanks for your input |
| 14:27.21 | justin | mocca: i'd just purge it |
| 14:27.33 | justin | lamah: what did you do? |
| 14:27.38 | themill | lamah: eh? How can I know what packages you uninstalled? You know what they were so you can install them. |
| 14:28.19 | mocca | justin. okey dokey. thanks |
| 14:28.31 | justin | themill: I think he removed gnome-desktop-environment |
| 14:29.07 | themill | justin: that's perfectly possible. |
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| 14:30.37 | AlexC_ | Squeeze no longer has libapache2-mod-fastcgi ? |
| 14:31.04 | teff | lamah: are they already uninstalled, and that happened when you installed gdm? |
| 14:31.15 | lamah | justin: themill it tells me to remove gdm3 package i do that but that removes 173 packages also and? what? got a pride or glory? i want to restore these packages again |
| 14:31.16 | teff | eh, removed gdm |
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| 14:31.51 | justin | lamah: no one told you to remove gdm3 |
| 14:31.53 | themill | lamah: I never told you to do that... and after an hour and a half of this, I've moved on to do real work. |
| 14:32.22 | AlexC_ | ah, non-free .... Looks like the new packages.debian.org doesn't really work too well :P |
| 14:32.35 | lamah | justin: how can i backup packages |
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| 14:33.41 | xindz | Guys, How can i bind ex terminal to ctrl + alt + t in Debian 6? |
| 14:34.01 | justin | lamah: install gnome-desktop-environment |
| 14:34.03 | teff | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.32 | wsxws | hm |
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| 14:37.22 | wsxws | i set up 2 proftpd-servers, both with ssl-engine. using an ftp-client from home, i can connet to both of them, and i can dl and ul. usinf ftp-ssl from one server to the other i can put files also. but as soon as i try to get a file i get 425 oer 426 operation not allowed. |
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| 14:38.05 | wsxws | ah, when i turn off tls, i can get also |
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| 14:44.37 | erufu | hi |
| 14:45.16 | erufu | i have a question : what is the actual kernel version on squeeze ? |
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| 14:45.28 | ham5 | ,versions kernel |
| 14:45.30 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'kernel' was found in i386. |
| 14:45.33 | wsxws | there is no actual kernel on squeeze |
| 14:45.39 | teff | 2.6.32-5-686 |
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| 14:45.43 | teff | is the newest |
| 14:45.52 | thewanderer1 | or amd64 :P |
| 14:45.57 | erufu | ok thx |
| 14:46.07 | teff | yeah, my pasting needs improvement;) |
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| 14:46.08 | wsxws | of simple latest stable from kernel org |
| 14:46.20 | wsxws | debian is outdated there (as always) |
| 14:46.27 | erufu | because i'm on a trunk kernel and personnaly i am on 2.6.36 |
| 14:46.34 | thewanderer1 | nope - 2.6.32 is stable, all others are mainline |
| 14:46.36 | erufu | and i wand to know the stable |
| 14:46.42 | tarzeau | is building linux-2.6.38-rc4 |
| 14:46.43 | erufu | *want |
| 14:46.46 | thewanderer1 | but most distributions and products target 2.6.32 now |
| 14:46.59 | tarzeau | does anyone have packages of libjpeg-turbo yet? |
| 14:47.55 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 14:47.55 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.37-trunk-686 (2.6.37-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); wheezy: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-30~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
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| 14:48.46 | wsxws | even the so called stabel from kernel org isnt real so, best choice atm woul be the .36 |
| 14:48.59 | abrotman | ah no |
| 14:49.09 | abrotman | not if you want help from us with your kernel |
| 14:49.38 | wsxws | nope i asked for help abount an installation problem sevral hoars ago and did not get helped on it |
| 14:49.54 | wsxws | meanwhile i simply gave up |
| 14:50.02 | wsxws | but my .36 kernel runs fine ;) |
| 14:51.06 | rkhshm | while trying to install tex-common.. i get this error |
| 14:51.11 | rkhshm | never seen this before.. |
| 14:51.16 | rkhshm | http://pastie.org/1541029 |
| 14:51.20 | rkhshm | any ideas guys ? |
| 14:52.07 | thewanderer1 | hmm... try it again |
| 14:52.12 | rozie | rkhshm: take closer look at /usr/share/debconf/confmodule |
| 14:53.23 | rkhshm | thewanderer1: tried 3 times already... |
| 14:53.25 | rkhshm | same error... |
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| 14:53.41 | rkhshm | rozie: as in? |
| 14:54.22 | rozie | rkhshm: /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 42: 3: Bad file number |
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| 14:54.36 | rozie | line 42 has the answer... |
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| 14:54.46 | rkhshm | yeah i saw that.. |
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| 14:55.33 | rkhshm | but nothing very evidient.. i mean i do see &3 but thats pretty much is read by many pkg |
| 14:55.35 | rkhshm | right |
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| 14:55.55 | noo | Hello. How can realise the following task: I want to configure something somewhere in a way, that everytime a new user is created he will have the gedit launcher in the top panel(using gnome) |
| 14:55.56 | thewanderer1 | well... does this happen with any other package? |
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| 14:56.37 | tim|mac | hey all... probably a strange question, but it seems that we can no longer install lenny with the netinstall images? we have a preseed file that sets mirror/suite to oldstable and mirror/codename to lenny, but it still seems to install squeeze... |
| 14:56.39 | rkhshm | thewanderer1: no |
| 14:56.52 | thewanderer1 | noo: make a new user, configure his desktop to your liking, then copy the files to /etc/skel - all home directories will be created from this template |
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| 14:57.16 | noo | thewanderer1: the problem is, that I'm allowed to use everything from /etc except for /etc/skel :D |
| 14:57.29 | justin | rkhshm: try sh -ex /var/lib/dpkg/info/tex-common.postinst configure |
| 14:57.53 | thewanderer1 | noo: then make /etc/skel2 and configure /etc/adduser.conf to take files from skel2 :P |
| 14:58.45 | rkhshm | justin: the same error i get... |
| 14:58.52 | justin | rkhshm: as expected |
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| 15:01.00 | noo | thewanderer1: and which file do you want me to copy ton /etc/skel or /etc/skel2? |
| 15:01.18 | colo-work | hmm |
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| 15:01.28 | rkhshm | justin: yea.. so any ideas ? |
| 15:01.41 | thewanderer1 | noo: all files that you will have created when configuring the "template" user's GNOME |
| 15:01.42 | justin | rkhshm: pastebin the output |
| 15:01.43 | colo-work | with the debian installer preseed capabilities, could I also create a class that chainloads other classes? |
| 15:02.01 | noo | thewanderer1: and where do I find these files? |
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| 15:02.14 | noo | ah ok |
| 15:02.17 | thewanderer1 | noo: in user's home directory after GNOME has created them :P |
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| 15:02.53 | rkhshm | justin: http://pastie.org/1541029 |
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| 15:03.10 | justin | rkhshm: that's the same thing you pasted before |
| 15:03.15 | rkhshm | yes |
| 15:03.23 | rkhshm | justin: what else did you require ? |
| 15:03.24 | justin | derrrr |
| 15:03.29 | justin | the output of the command I told you to run |
| 15:03.34 | rkhshm | oh.. ok |
| 15:04.05 | noo | thewanderer1: ok, but in which file does sqeeze save which launchers were added to the panel? |
| 15:04.29 | Xavvy | hi, I just upgraded from lenny to squeeze (amd64) and the oom killer is going crazy. it seems to be triggered when ram comes close to freezing up, even though swap is totally unused. can someone give me some insight on this? |
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| 15:04.44 | thewanderer1 | noo: this, I don't know :P probably some gconf settings or files in .config |
| 15:04.47 | rkhshm | justin: http://pastie.org/1541072 |
| 15:04.49 | thewanderer1 | noo: you can grep this I think |
| 15:04.58 | Xavvy | as I understand it, with 64 bit, all mem = low mem |
| 15:05.04 | justin | rkhshm: that is not what I told you to run |
| 15:05.33 | Xavvy | and oom killer is triggered when low mem is filled |
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| 15:05.58 | jelly | Xavvy: I think some PCI cards can only do DMA on lower 31- or 32bits |
| 15:06.17 | rkhshm | justin: http://pastie.org/1541072 |
| 15:06.19 | rkhshm | sorry about that... |
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| 15:06.59 | justin | grr, that didn't help |
| 15:07.03 | Xavvy | jelly: I'm not following you...this is about system ram/swap as far as I can tell |
| 15:07.16 | Xavvy | can you elaborate? |
| 15:07.18 | justin | rkhshm: change the first line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/tex-common.postinst to have the -ex instead of -e |
| 15:07.27 | rkhshm | ok. |
| 15:07.35 | justin | rkhshm: then that should output the full trace |
| 15:07.54 | jelly | Xavvy: oh, likely unrelated to your issue. It's just that not all memory is equal even on amd64. |
| 15:08.18 | jelly | Xavvy: can you paste the output of: for i in /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_*; do echo $i $(cat $i); done |
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| 15:08.38 | Xavvy | jelly: ah. well, I'd be happy just to turn off the oom killer at this point, it doesn't seem like anything's even hitting swap |
| 15:08.42 | Xavvy | and, sure, 2 secs |
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| 15:09.02 | justin | jelly: grep . /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_* |
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| 15:09.35 | Xavvy | well |
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| 15:09.49 | Xavvy | here's the output, I've played with both of them already and they don't seem to disable it: |
| 15:09.52 | Xavvy | /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory 0 |
| 15:09.52 | Xavvy | /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ratio 50 |
| 15:09.53 | mocca | justin: thank you. network-manager-gnome worked. |
| 15:10.17 | Xavvy | _memory has been set to 1 and 2, and _ratio has been set to 200, previously, and the same thing applies |
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| 15:10.37 | rkhshm | justin: oh man.. thats too much to go through |
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| 15:10.48 | justin | rkhshm: heh, the important part should be at the end |
| 15:11.00 | justin | rkhshm: should be able to see what it is trying to do right before it blows up |
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| 15:11.24 | inki | hi |
| 15:11.42 | rkhshm | justin: http://pastie.org/1541072 |
| 15:11.44 | inki | where can i get netinst isos for 5.0.x? |
| 15:11.48 | jelly | justin: keep repeating that a couple more times, I might eventually remember it O:-) |
| 15:11.53 | Xavvy | I'm currently running openvz, and as I understand it, they have a modded oom killer for within containers, but this is within the host, so I'm pretty sure it pertains to the standard oom killer in the kernel |
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| 15:12.21 | bughunter2 | hi, I think that since squeeze was released, I got a few updates that would cause xserver-xorg to be uninstalled, so I only performed 'safe-upgrades' |
| 15:12.42 | bughunter2 | if I execute aptitude install -f or aptitude full-upgrade, the same thing happens, it tries to uninstall a lot of packages |
| 15:12.57 | stew | bughunter2: this is why apt-get is recommended for upgrades to squeeze |
| 15:12.58 | inki | i need a lenny netinst iso, but since squeeze was released all the mirrors don't appear to carry lenny isos anymore |
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| 15:13.00 | bughunter2 | in sources.list I use the 'unstable' repositories |
| 15:13.05 | sprink | does the kfreebsd version support dtrace? |
| 15:13.05 | stew | oh |
| 15:13.07 | bughunter2 | I was already using squeez |
| 15:13.10 | bughunter2 | e |
| 15:13.15 | stew | bughunter2: ok, so what is the problem? |
| 15:13.22 | justin | rkhshm: does just running ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/tex-common/05TeXMF.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf give the same error? |
| 15:13.23 | bughunter2 | well, I can't seem to properly upgrade |
| 15:13.28 | rkhshm | btw i ran the last but one line before the error... "ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/tex-common/05TeXMF.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf" and it worked fine... |
| 15:13.31 | stew | bughunter2: then stick to squeeze |
| 15:13.39 | bughunter2 | but thats the problem |
| 15:13.47 | bughunter2 | the update manager will try to present me with upgrades as well |
| 15:13.56 | bughunter2 | and I think it should be possible to upgrade, somehow |
| 15:13.59 | stew | bughunter2: it is |
| 15:14.03 | bughunter2 | otherwise I can't insatll the new Xorg package |
| 15:14.10 | justin | rkhshm: interesting |
| 15:14.11 | bughunter2 | so, yeah, thats' what I'm trying to accomplish |
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| 15:14.31 | bughunter2 | shall I post the output of what aptitude proposes when I run full-upgrade? |
| 15:14.36 | stew | bughunter2: you should not be mixing unstable packages with a squeeze install |
| 15:14.42 | bughunter2 | I am not |
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| 15:14.52 | bughunter2 | I have gone to unstable from lenny (I used a 5.0.7 install disc) |
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| 15:14.59 | bughunter2 | it's been running fine since November last year |
| 15:15.12 | bughunter2 | normally a non-safe upgrade worked fine |
| 15:15.18 | lxsameer | is there any problem with xserver-xorg ? some minutes ago when i upgrade from sid , apt removed many of xserver-xorg packages and i can't install them because of unmet dependecies |
| 15:15.44 | stew | lxsameer: yes, a lot of xorg packages were just removed from unstable |
| 15:15.48 | bughunter2 | I still use 'unstable' in my sources.list, I never used 'squeeze' there |
| 15:15.52 | stew | because they were unmaintained |
| 15:16.01 | rkhshm | the postinst script does have UCF entires.. but this is strange |
| 15:16.13 | lxsameer | stew: wow sh*t so what is their replacement ? |
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| 15:16.21 | stew | lxsameer: none |
| 15:16.49 | lxsameer | stew: hmmmmmmmmmmmm, so what sould i do after my xserver-xorg removed ? |
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| 15:17.02 | stew | lxsameer: reinstall it |
| 15:17.13 | stew | lxsameer: or use packages from wheezy, or wait |
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| 15:17.44 | bughunter2 | stew: this is what I get atm. when trying to run full-upgrade: http://paste.debian.net/106887/ |
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| 15:18.21 | bughunter2 | I *do* want to upgrade to the new xserver, so please help :) |
| 15:18.29 | jelly | bughunter2: wait a few days/weeks. |
| 15:18.35 | lxsameer | stew: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i can't reinstall it because it removed, |
| 15:18.51 | stew | lxsameer: bughunter2: welcome to unstable at its most unstable period |
| 15:18.59 | bughunter2 | ah |
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| 15:19.02 | bughunter2 | heh :p |
| 15:19.02 | lxsameer | stew: :) |
| 15:19.15 | bughunter2 | I'll just wait it out then :) |
| 15:19.32 | lxsameer | stew: why xserver-* removed is there any specific problem ? |
| 15:19.36 | bughunter2 | the conflicts will be resolved, of course I could expect this indeed when using unstable |
| 15:19.39 | stew | bughunter2: according to aptitude search '~Pxorg-video-abi-6.0' you need xserver-xorg-core |
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| 15:19.53 | bughunter2 | yes, but it is a package that will also be upgraded |
| 15:19.59 | bughunter2 | and if it tries to do so, shit will break |
| 15:20.01 | stew | lxsameer: yes, packages were obsolete an unmaintained, se the xorg related bugs here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=ftp.debian.org;dist=unstable#_4_1_4 |
| 15:20.04 | Xavvy | jelly: would a paste of the syslog messages help? |
| 15:20.16 | lxsameer | stew: aha thanks |
| 15:20.30 | stew | and it looks like more will be removed today or tomorrow |
| 15:20.46 | bughunter2 | stew: this is what I get when running `aptitude install xserver-xorg-core`: http://paste.debian.net/106889/ |
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| 15:21.19 | jelly | Xavvy: uname -r? |
| 15:21.19 | stew | bughunter2: i would recommend not accepting that solution, and try for another |
| 15:21.24 | bughunter2 | lol |
| 15:21.25 | bughunter2 | :D |
| 15:21.31 | stew | bughunter2: like don't hit y or q, hit n |
| 15:21.43 | bughunter2 | yes I know how it works :) |
| 15:21.44 | jelly | Xavvy: 'course if you're using a custom kernel, all bets are off |
| 15:21.50 | bughunter2 | will give it a shot |
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| 15:22.25 | bughunter2 | all solutions suck pretty much |
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| 15:22.46 | bughunter2 | all either remove xorg or leave the package to upgrade at its current version |
| 15:22.47 | AbuDhabi | I want to check before I make any irreversible decisions: the netinst does allow one to wipe a selected partition and keep others, right? |
| 15:23.07 | Xavvy | jelly: I'm not using a custom kernel, but I am using the openvz patched kernel in debian: 2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64 |
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| 15:23.13 | bughunter2 | stew: I guess that these things happen sometimes with unstable, and that the problem will basically "fix itself" in a few weeks? |
| 15:23.32 | babilen | bughunter2: leave the packages at their current version. That is what you want. hold/pin them and install other packages (if wanted) |
| 15:23.44 | bughunter2 | no need, I'll just wait |
| 15:23.51 | bughunter2 | and perform only safe upgrades till it's fixed |
| 15:24.22 | bughunter2 | or, perhaps I can 'downgrade' to squeeze? |
| 15:24.36 | bughunter2 | at least that way fglrx works again |
| 15:24.37 | jelly | Xavvy: I'd file a bug against the kernel package and ask the kernel team for help. Does the same thing happen when you boot a non-openvz kernel? |
| 15:24.44 | thewanderer1 | AbuDhabi: yes, it will also list all partitions that it formats before commiting changes and require you to read them and press a button to confirm |
| 15:24.45 | twinkie_addict | squeeze thus far seems very nice |
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| 15:26.00 | bughunter2 | there we are |
| 15:26.19 | AbuDhabi | thewanderer1: Thanks. I've fscked up my current OS, and am preparing to wipe it and install squeeze over it. |
| 15:27.25 | twinkie_addict | what was you currebt os ? |
| 15:27.34 | AbuDhabi | Lenny. |
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| 15:28.17 | bughunter2 | hm perhaps downgrading isn't so easy |
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| 15:29.19 | simonrvn | AbuDhabi: why not upgrade to squeeze? |
| 15:29.33 | Xavvy | jelly: I honestly couldn't tell you -- this machine is strictly for openvz, and most of its processes run in containers |
| 15:29.35 | AbuDhabi | I've tried and broke it worse. |
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| 15:29.51 | babilen | AbuDhabi: Just follow the release notes |
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| 15:30.03 | babilen | AbuDhabi: What was the problem? |
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| 15:30.10 | jelly | Xavvy: going to be "interesting" to debug, I fear |
| 15:30.18 | Xavvy | jelly: I tried asking in #openvz, but it's dead and it doesn't look like it's an openvz specific problem |
| 15:30.23 | Xavvy | the more I investigate it |
| 15:30.25 | Xavvy | yes :( |
| 15:30.29 | zmyrgel | hi, could anyone aid a bit, trying to install 6.0 to my Thinkpad X201 but installer failed on installing grub |
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| 15:31.05 | AbuDhabi | babilen: A few days ago I installed playonlinux (and dependancies) from the sid repository. This broke CD burning, disk mounting, wifi and probably several other things I've not had a chance to discover. |
| 15:31.36 | babilen | AbuDhabi: How is that related to upgrading your lenny box to squeeze? |
| 15:31.54 | twinkie_addict | ouch thats alot of breakage for one app |
| 15:31.57 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: tried disabling the OOM killer? it's very picky in OpenVZ |
| 15:32.20 | bughunter2 | apt-pinning seems to solve it, now I think I can downgrade to squeeze |
| 15:32.25 | bughunter2 | will give it a shot :p |
| 15:32.31 | AbuDhabi | babilen: Not much. I originally didn't intend to upgrade, but now that the OS is broken beyond my ability to repair it, I might as well install squeeze. |
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| 15:32.41 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: plus, OpenVZ accounts memory differently than native hardware, so VSZ often ends up counted as "used RAM", which makes PHP "consume" 50MB of RAM while really it should take 10, for example |
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| 15:33.18 | justin | AbuDhabi: installing a single package from sid probably pulled in libc from sid and a ton of other stuff |
| 15:33.28 | AbuDhabi | Yes. |
| 15:33.30 | Xavvy | thewanderer1: if I could just disable it I would be happy with that. I'm a bit of an openvz novice so any pointers can help, I didn't see it in the wiki but maybe I overlooked it |
| 15:33.37 | jelly | Xavvy: I wonder how would debian work if you used the upstream-supported kernels, derived from RHEL5 or RHEL6 |
| 15:33.42 | twinkie_addict | fresh install of sqeeze seems the best rout from i seen in the debian room |
| 15:33.43 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: set overcommit_memory to 2, it's gone |
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| 15:34.03 | Xavvy | thewanderer1: before this machine upgraded to squeeze, it was happily running lenny's latest openvz kernel without any problems |
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| 15:34.34 | twinkie_addict | is very happy with sqeeze sofar |
| 15:34.39 | Xavvy | thewanderer1: I tried that. echo 2 > /proc/vm/overcommit_memory (or sysctl vm.overcommit_memory=2), correct? |
| 15:34.46 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: yeah |
| 15:34.59 | justin | there is no such thing as /proc/vm |
| 15:35.09 | Xavvy | thewanderer1: it doesn't disable it at all, which leads me to believe it's the standard linux oom killer in action |
| 15:35.24 | Xavvy | justin: sorry, /proc/sys/vm is what I meant |
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| 15:36.02 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: well, if overcommit_memory is disabled, nothing should be triggering OOM conditions... cat the value and see if it's really set to 2 |
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| 15:36.54 | ferranp | Hello I have problem with scsi adaptec 29160, debian 5.0 and today say's "Dump card state ends... aic7xxx abort returns 0x2002" any idea? |
| 15:37.15 | Xavvy | thewanderer1: it is, does that disable standard linux oom killer as well? |
| 15:37.46 | littlegirl | Hey there, I'd like to grab a copy of Debian from an HTTP or FTP server and don't know which one to get. What is the difference between bt-hybrid, iso-hybrid, net, usb-hdd, and web? |
| 15:37.47 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: no, OOM killer is never disabled... only overcommit is disabled, but you'll need to restart all applications that have malloc()ed memory before |
| 15:38.06 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: since Linux can't just "take away" memory it has allowed them to malloc() |
| 15:38.14 | inki | This was probably answered already, but I had to run off keyboard, so I have to ask again: Where can I get a Lenny netinst iso? All the sites only carry Squeeze since it was released. |
| 15:38.41 | Xavvy | thewanderer1: it is, does that disable standard linux oom killer as well? |
| 15:38.43 | Xavvy | err |
| 15:38.51 | Xavvy | silly arrow keys :P what I meant to say was: |
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| 15:39.10 | Xavvy | thewanderer1: does that mean the oom killer might kill a couple more things before it's inactive after setting it? |
| 15:39.12 | thewanderer1 | littlegirl: bt is BitTorrent, iso is direct download via HTTP, net is Net Install (I suppose), usb-hdd is meant to install from a USB-attached storage |
| 15:39.13 | inki | even http://ftp.us.debian.org/dists/lenny/ is gone |
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| 15:39.31 | thewanderer1 | inki: try the archive |
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| 15:39.42 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: yeah |
| 15:39.45 | littlegirl | thewanderer: Thanks! |
| 15:40.10 | inki | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-archive/ is empty |
| 15:40.24 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: overcommit_memory affects malloc() after it's set, but all earlier memory allocations can not be changed, so you should restart the containers probably |
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| 15:41.01 | sameerthahir | yay successfully upgraded to squeeze !! :D |
| 15:41.20 | babilen | !conrat sameerthahir |
| 15:41.25 | babilen | !congrat sameerthahir |
| 15:41.26 | relix | hello, I'm setting up an NFS server, and am wondering if IP spoofing is a real threat |
| 15:41.37 | sameerthahir | babilen, thanks |
| 15:41.48 | sameerthahir | babilen, it was quite easy, no hiccups |
| 15:41.57 | jyes | Seems like âvserverâ functionality is not enabled in âlinux-image-2.6.32-5-vserver-powerpcâ⦠is this possible, âvserverâ should be disabled in wheezy, not in squeeze. |
| 15:41.58 | inki | maybe http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/Archive-Update-in-Progress-zeus2.kernel.org means all the stuff is being rebuilt at the moment? |
| 15:42.02 | Xavvy | thewanderer1: awesome, that would explain why I didn't notice it previously. thanks! also, you seem pretty knowledgable with ovz, would you be willing to scan through my syslog message real quick and see if anything immediately jumps out at you? |
| 15:42.02 | relix | the local and remote IP's are basically accessible over the internet |
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| 15:42.17 | thewanderer1 | Xavvy: well, I could... just keep it short :) |
| 15:42.46 | thewanderer1 | relix: it depends on whether you trust your network... in general, it's impossible to fake an IP from another network |
| 15:43.26 | relix | I don't trust it |
| 15:43.39 | relix | so ... what are some secure alternatives? |
| 15:43.39 | Xavvy | thewanderer1: I will, it'll have to be a sec because oom just killed my sshd process and it's a remote box so I have to cycle it :( but I appreciate it! |
| 15:43.45 | relix | NFS over SSH? |
| 15:43.48 | Xavvy | brb rebooting |
| 15:43.52 | thewanderer1 | relix: NFS with Kerberos |
| 15:45.00 | Xavvy | whoops, I lied. looks like it fixed itself |
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| 15:45.26 | AbuDhabi | Okay, besides the home directory, etc and a bunch of stuff from var, is there anything else I should back up before wiping the filesystem? |
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| 15:45.55 | relix | thewanderer1: looks very complex |
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| 15:46.23 | relix | there's no easier way? I just need the NFS to extend the diskspace of my other server, so it's one user |
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| 15:46.40 | ksk | AbuDhabi: maybe /usr/local? |
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| 15:47.05 | thewanderer1 | relix: then why are you worrying about security at all? :P |
| 15:47.11 | justin | AbuDhabi: why wipe it? mkdir /old; mv /* /old |
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| 15:47.52 | relix | thewanderer1: because even if I limit all access to one IP a spoofed IP could still access it? |
| 15:48.00 | Xavier | thewanderer1: http://sprunge.us/XdSI |
| 15:48.04 | thewanderer1 | relix: just use a secure network switch, set a fixed IP->MAC mapping using `arp` and you're pretty much safe |
| 15:48.13 | Xavier | that's the result of one 'cycle' of the oomkiller |
| 15:48.17 | AbuDhabi | justin: I'd do that if I had sufficient spare. |
| 15:48.18 | teff | AbuDhabi: you might want to safe the apt settings, check the release notes |
| 15:48.19 | AbuDhabi | *space |
| 15:48.19 | relix | I do not have access to the network switches |
| 15:48.31 | relix | I also have no intimate knowledge how the network is configured |
| 15:48.52 | justin | Xavier: did you set swappiness to 0 or something? |
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| 15:49.32 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: looks pretty usual when mess happens to memory... |
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| 15:50.11 | jaw_vvd | hi all. ping hostname in chroot environment doesn't work: "unknown host xxxxxx" - i've inserted resolv.conf and nsswitch.conf; anyone have any ideas? |
| 15:50.17 | Xavier | thewanderer1: ah alright. I was hoping I hadn't just blatantly misconfigured something :) thanks for looking |
| 15:50.28 | justin | jaw_vvd: check permissions on those files and /etc/hosts |
| 15:50.37 | Xavier | justin: not that I know of, unless the upgrade process did it by accident or something |
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| 15:51.15 | thewanderer1 | jaw_vvd: so fix your resolv.conf and nsswitch.conf to what they were like when they worked |
| 15:51.18 | Xavier | justin: it's currently at 60 |
| 15:51.34 | jaw_vvd | thewanderer1: i've never gotten this to work in the first place |
| 15:51.40 | jaw_vvd | justin: thanks, but doesn't solve it :) |
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| 15:52.07 | thewanderer1 | jaw_vvd: so copy them from your host system... |
| 15:52.14 | jaw_vvd | thewanderer1: i did |
| 15:52.39 | thewanderer1 | jaw_vvd: does nslookup work as expected? can you at least ping by IP? |
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| 15:53.02 | jaw_vvd | thewanderer1: yes ping by ip is fine, let me check nslookup |
| 15:53.52 | jaw_vvd | thewanderer1: nslookup works fine |
| 15:54.09 | thewanderer1 | so... DNS resolver works |
| 15:54.33 | jaw_vvd | nslookup uses its own libs for that though? |
| 15:54.42 | jaw_vvd | not the ones ping (and in the end PHP) uses? |
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| 15:54.57 | thewanderer1 | not quite sure |
| 15:54.59 | frikinz | jaw_vvd: which debian is this? |
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| 15:55.08 | bughunter2 | downgrading to squeeze worked :) |
| 15:55.18 | jaw_vvd | frikinz: lenny stable |
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| 15:56.03 | jaw_vvd | ldd shows that ping wants a resolver lib but that's in there.. so shouldn't be a problem |
| 15:56.10 | frikinz | jaw_vvd: did you try removing mdns entries in /etc/nsswitch ? |
| 15:56.18 | OpenTokix | jaw_vvd: lenny is old-stable |
| 15:56.26 | jaw_vvd | OpenTokix: true :) |
| 15:56.49 | frikinz | jaw_vvd: I had a problem like this once, it was linked to avahi, mdns. |
| 15:57.28 | jaw_vvd | only line in my nsswitch.conf now is "hosts: files dns" |
| 15:57.34 | jaw_vvd | still no luck |
| 15:57.50 | thewanderer1 | jaw_vvd: tried some other program, like wget? |
| 15:57.54 | stew | that's the only line? or the only line related to hosts? |
| 15:58.05 | jaw_vvd | i removed the other lines for now, just to test |
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| 15:58.09 | stew | uhh |
| 15:58.13 | stew | i wouldn't |
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| 15:58.14 | jelly | jaw_vvd: uh, don't remove lines for passwd and group and shadow. |
| 15:58.25 | Xavier | wow |
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| 15:58.44 | jelly | Not a Good Idea |
| 15:58.47 | Xavier | nope, I'm still getting processed killed with overcommit_memory set to 2 and containers restarted |
| 15:59.00 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: what is killing them? |
| 15:59.09 | thewanderer1 | (or rather, what triggers the OOM?) |
| 15:59.47 | Xavier | thewanderer1: a lamp stack in one of the containers loading up |
| 16:00.16 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: and it's killing processes from where? |
| 16:00.22 | ksk | . |
| 16:00.24 | Xavier | which, granted, doesn't have enough memory, especially since it seems to leak....but that should be contained within the vm |
| 16:00.40 | thewanderer1 | well that's the reason I switched to KVM I think... :P |
| 16:00.43 | Xavier | thewanderer1: HN is killing it afaik. the messages show up in its syslog, not the containe'sr |
| 16:00.50 | Xavier | er, container's |
| 16:01.06 | thewanderer1 | yes, but from my experience containers only kill HN processes or self's processes |
| 16:01.14 | thewanderer1 | never seen it kill another container's stuff |
| 16:01.38 | Xavier | no, the stack (inside the container) is getting killed from HN |
| 16:02.00 | Xavier | along with, randomly, sshd and my other processes within HN |
| 16:02.28 | thewanderer1 | does the container have overcommit_memory set to 2 as well? |
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| 16:03.35 | thewanderer1 | (also, you should have a huge OOMGUARPAGES setting for VE0, which is the default but worth checking) |
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| 16:04.58 | thewanderer1 | such stuff can happen when you set OOMGUARPAGES of a container too high and processes try to claim their space which is guaranteed... |
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| 16:06.33 | wsxws | is there a play where i can repot a bug of a program which is listet in debians repo ? |
| 16:06.53 | thewanderer1 | !tell wsxws about reportbug |
| 16:07.29 | sanal_madatheth | hello all |
| 16:07.56 | Xavier | thewanderer1: ve0 is set at 25k,where most of the others are 8-10k, and no, none of the containers do, but it seems strange to me that a container could essential DoS the whole box |
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| 16:08.11 | Xavier | essentially |
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| 16:08.48 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: try increasing the allocation for VE0... |
| 16:08.59 | thewanderer1 | here it is at some ridiculously large number |
| 16:09.17 | ksk | hello |
| 16:09.50 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: also, /proc/sys/vm/oom_kill_allocating_task should help if you run out of ideas... |
| 16:09.56 | Xavier | thewanderer1: according to /etc/vz/0.conf, it's at OOMGUARPAGES="9223372036854775807:9223372036854775807" (as are all of them)...but ubc reports differently |
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| 16:10.27 | jaw_vvd | aha. strace solved it. was missing the dns libs from /lib |
| 16:10.38 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: here it reports the value from the config file... strange |
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| 16:10.59 | Xavier | thewanderer1: I'm going try set it manually...hoping this is it |
| 16:11.00 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: perhaps you should set it at runtime (now) with vzctl |
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| 16:12.39 | Xavier | thewanderer1: actually, I took a 2nd look at ubc, I read it wrongly...it's the correct value |
| 16:12.44 | Xavier | I was looking at held/maxheld instead |
| 16:12.50 | Xavier | facepalm |
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| 16:13.30 | Xavier | but yeah, I have kill_allocating_task set now so hopefully only apache will get it at least |
| 16:13.31 | thewanderer1 | hmm ok... so perhaps the containers + HN use more memory than the HN really has |
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| 16:13.43 | wsxws | jesus, i dont wann apost my name adress and waht ever, i jsut wanted to tell, that ftp-ss is buggy on getting files using enforced ssl |
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| 16:14.01 | wsxws | anyway, have a nice day all |
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| 16:14.13 | stew | thanks for nothhing! |
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| 16:14.37 | abrotman | repeat PITA |
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| 16:14.55 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: as in: HN has 2GB RAM, it uses 1GB for itself, you allocate 1450MB to a container, it's fine from *its* point of view but the OOM will still activate because you have run out of memory without overcommiting |
| 16:15.11 | jaw_vvd | frikinz: thewanderer1: justin: jelly: thanks for your help. |
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| 16:15.35 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: the rule of a thumb is: save memory on HN, move everything you possibly can to containers |
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| 16:16.05 | frikinz | jaw_vvd: does it work now? |
| 16:16.31 | jaw_vvd | frikinz: yes, /lib/libnss* was missing |
| 16:16.39 | Xavier | thewanderer1: that's what I did...but the problem is, as far as I can tell, that before it was looking at ram+swap for the mem pool, and now it's looking at just mem |
| 16:16.41 | jaw_vvd | apparently loaded with dlopen rather than linkage |
| 16:16.59 | Xavier | it's definitely overallocated for just 4gb |
| 16:17.19 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: I've always had it use both RAM and swap, but indeed, there were some changes in controllers... |
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| 16:18.25 | thewanderer1 | which should not, however, trigger such behaviour - it's still RAM + swap that will normally get used for allocations |
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| 16:19.11 | Xavier | thewanderer1: well right now, also, there's about 2gb of ram free. if the container fills itself up (its limited to 1gb currently) it still shouldn't oom... |
| 16:19.12 | hiexpo | ? how do i update clamav signatures > I forgot how and can't find my notes i remmber it was so easy just root maybe clamtk something |
| 16:19.36 | Xavier | thewanderer1: would you have any idea where I could look to adjust that behavior?= |
| 16:19.42 | stew | hiexpo: i haven't used it in years, but there used to be freshclam |
| 16:19.44 | justin | hiexpo: freshclam? |
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| 16:20.29 | hiexpo | yes freshclam and i know i don't need it but i use it to check files before sending them to windows boxes |
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| 16:21.08 | justin | hiexpo: what? |
| 16:21.12 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: agreed - it should not. disabled overcommit should generally take care of that - malloc will normally be refused |
| 16:21.37 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: if you want to, you can check it - write a simple program that will malloc(), say, 2GB, and see how it behaves |
| 16:21.47 | shamelessn00b | Hi guys, I'm using debian squeeze and following this guide (http://www.linuxconfig.org/howto-create-bundle-upload-and-access-custom-debian-ami-using-ubuntu) to create an AMI, in section 4.2.2. Create devices, they are using makedev command, but I can't use it cuz I have udev |
| 16:21.56 | shamelessn00b | what are my alternates |
| 16:21.56 | hiexpo | yes it is freshclam and only reason i use it is before emailing stuff to friends that use windoz justin |
| 16:22.03 | shamelessn00b | I'm newb at chroot |
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| 16:22.18 | nsadmin | man chroot then |
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| 16:23.27 | shamelessn00b | I just want to create 2 devices, console and std |
| 16:24.08 | shamelessn00b | udev isn't allowing me to use makedev |
| 16:24.11 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: can you `cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory` from a VE and see if it is set to 2? |
| 16:24.21 | thewanderer1 | cause the newer kernels seem to have a per-cgroup controller... |
| 16:24.23 | hiexpo | ok my antivirus engine out of date |
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| 16:26.20 | stew | shamelessn00b: you shouldn't need makedev, udev should create stuff for you as it appears |
| 16:26.21 | shamelessn00b | any help? |
| 16:26.37 | shamelessn00b | so I won't need to issue those two commands |
| 16:26.43 | shamelessn00b | and follow the rest of the guide |
| 16:26.45 | shamelessn00b | ? |
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| 16:26.49 | Xavier | thewanderer1: yup, they are all 2, looks like they inherited from ct0 |
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| 16:27.26 | nsadmin | could someone explain how diversion works and what it's for |
| 16:27.37 | ix_ | :) |
| 16:27.38 | stew | shamelessn00b: don't follow the part of the guide where they have you install debian etch. install debian squeeze. etch is unsupported and vulnerable to security problems which aren't going to be fixed |
| 16:27.54 | Xavier | shamelessn00b: dont quote me on this, but you should be able to install the udev package once you're inside the chroot, and in the meantime, mount your current /dev inside the chroot with mount -o bind |
| 16:28.15 | thewanderer1 | nsadmin: for packages/users that want to move an original file and replace it with something else, like override a command or a config file in /usr... |
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| 16:28.57 | shamelessn00b | stew, I'm using sqeeze, I'm at section 4.2.2 of that article |
| 16:29.02 | thewanderer1 | nsadmin: I once used dpkg-divert to replace mkinitrd with my own, for example - and implemented different functionality |
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| 16:29.20 | nsadmin | ok... so for example in fglrx-glx, there are two diversions and there's a dir /usr/lib/fglrx/diversions |
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| 16:29.46 | thewanderer1 | nsadmin: yes, that's the place where the original files go in this case - man dpkg-divert |
| 16:29.48 | shamelessn00b | Xavier: I already have the udev package installed there |
| 16:29.50 | stew | shamelessn00b: oh, if you are creating a chroot, just bind mount /dev from outside of the chroot to inside the chroot so that the chroot is just reusing the /dev entries from the host |
| 16:30.21 | shamelessn00b | stew can you tell me how? |
| 16:30.32 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: well, it seems that's all I can do to help - move everything you can from VE0 to other VE's and hope for the best now :P |
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| 16:30.49 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: also, make your overcommit/oom settings permanent - sysctl.conf |
| 16:30.55 | Xavier | thewanderer1: yeah :( I definitely appreciate the help |
| 16:30.55 | stew | shamelessn00b: actually i don't know if i know what I'm talking about. i don't know what the requirements of ec2 are |
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| 16:31.28 | Xavier | thewanderer1: yup got them in there...this is what's strange, though, there's "normal" behavior as well: |
| 16:31.29 | Xavier | # vzctl exec 115 /etc/init.d/cron restart |
| 16:31.40 | Xavier | /etc/init.d/cron: fork: Cannot allocate memory |
| 16:32.08 | shamelessn00b | stew I just want to know if I skip those two makedev commands mentioned in the guide (cuz I can't execute them cuz of udev) would I be fine? |
| 16:32.16 | Xavier | ^ doesn't trigger oom at all inside the container, it makes me think it's the normal linux oom that's getting triggered inside ct0 |
| 16:32.27 | frikinz | I wonder what udevadm trigger in a chroot does |
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| 16:32.54 | Xavier | shamelessn00b: you should be, all makedev is is a shell script that does mknod a bunch of times |
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| 16:33.05 | inki | http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/dists/ - where's Lenny?? |
| 16:33.23 | shamelessn00b | Ok, thanks guys |
| 16:33.30 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: it could be VE0, yes - if you have any software running in it, it could malloc(), then your VE malloc's within its private/guar pages and you end up with a resource conflict |
| 16:33.33 | justin | inki: lenny is still on the main mirrors |
| 16:33.34 | shamelessn00b | lets see if my AMI runs fine |
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| 16:34.17 | sanal_madatheth | my sources.list has the following line.. |
| 16:34.23 | inki | justin: I can't seem to sind a Lenny netinst iso anywhere |
| 16:34.24 | sanal_madatheth | deb http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 16:34.49 | stew | inki: why would you want lenny instead of squeeze? |
| 16:34.55 | sanal_madatheth | how to upgrade to stable squeeze? |
| 16:35.02 | Xavier | thewanderer1: the only things running in ve0 are fail2ban and sshd, however, since you can see processes in containers (albeit with bad uid/gid mappings) I'm thinking it's seeing them without the context of containers...another argument for vanilla linux oom |
| 16:35.05 | frikinz | shamelessn00b: create console with mknod -m 660 console c 5 1 |
| 16:35.34 | shamelessn00b | thanks frikinz |
| 16:35.52 | sanal_madatheth | frikinz, plz help |
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| 16:36.19 | sanal_madatheth | frikinz, my sources.list has the following line.. |
| 16:36.28 | shamelessn00b | frikinz: it says file exists |
| 16:36.38 | sanal_madatheth | frikinz, deb http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 16:36.39 | shamelessn00b | I think udev already created it |
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| 16:37.07 | sanal_madatheth | frikinz, how to upgrade to stable squeeze? |
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| 16:37.21 | Larsss | hi there |
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| 16:37.34 | Linuturk | I've upgraded my lenny to squeeze |
| 16:37.37 | Larsss | are somebody/someone interested on doing own linux distribution |
| 16:37.40 | thewanderer1 | Xavier: yes, there is no VE-specific OOM - everything is handled in the native namespace |
| 16:37.58 | Linuturk | and, it won't boot on the newest kernel version. It just hangs. If I revert to the previous kernel, it boots fine. |
| 16:38.12 | thewanderer1 | Larsss: this is a support channel, not a good place to ask... |
| 16:38.15 | sanal_madatheth | does the source require any change? |
| 16:38.27 | atmos4 | hey, if I add an additional exim config file in /etc/exim4/conf.d/router/ - is there anything I need to do in order to get exim to pick it up besides restaring exim? |
| 16:38.29 | Larsss | Which codecs have i to install there on debian squeeze ? |
| 16:38.33 | justin | Linuturk: hangs when? |
| 16:38.53 | Linuturk | Loading please wait |
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| 16:39.13 | justin | are you booting with 'quiet' or anything like that? |
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| 16:39.20 | frikinz | sanal_madatheth: you asked the wrong person :) I have no idea... aptitude dist-upgrade? |
| 16:39.23 | Linuturk | yeah, let me turn that off justin |
| 16:39.37 | sanal_madatheth | AimHere, hello |
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| 16:40.07 | Larsss | Which codecs have i to install there on debian squeeze ? |
| 16:40.13 | sanal_madatheth | frikinz, ok |
| 16:40.15 | frikinz | shamelessn00b: ok. I partially remember that some files are created manually. anyway on the next reboot, udev should do everything |
| 16:40.19 | Larsss | Which codecs have i to install there on debian squeeze ? |
| 16:40.27 | BLOB0 | lol |
| 16:40.37 | shamelessn00b | ok thank you frikinz |
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| 16:41.20 | frikinz | dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 16:41.20 | dpkg | Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <squeeze release notes>. |
| 16:41.23 | frikinz | sanal_madatheth: ^^ |
| 16:41.25 | Linuturk | justin: it hangs after loading the ata1 and ata2 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13160/Screenshot.png |
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| 16:42.13 | frikinz | uh apt-get not aptitude to upgrade? |
| 16:42.27 | justin | Linuturk: is that from a VM or an ilom? |
| 16:42.34 | Linuturk | VM |
| 16:42.39 | Linuturk | KVM |
| 16:42.56 | sanal_madatheth | frikinz, means apt-get upgrade enough |
| 16:43.10 | inki | stew: we need Lenny because we have lots and lots of servers running Lenny which will not ne |
| 16:43.21 | little_owl1 | What is the situation of SELinux in Squeeze? When I set enforcing mode in Lenny, some packages had problems ... I would like to know, if there is some progress. Unfortunately, the company policy requires MAC ... :-/ |
| 16:43.30 | inki | stew: we need Lenny because we have lots and lots of servers running Lenny which will not be migrated to Squeeze in the very next future |
| 16:43.31 | frikinz | sanal_madatheth: as a last step yes.. |
| 16:43.33 | ttyS1 | what repository can I use to download etch packages ? |
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| 16:43.44 | inki | stew: So what I need now is a Lenny netinst iso :-) |
| 16:44.41 | paq7512 | what does sh mean? |
| 16:44.52 | ttyS1 | these are outdated: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib |
| 16:44.55 | justin | Linuturk: sounds like a question for the kvm people |
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| 16:45.04 | stew | inki: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 16:45.13 | inki | paq7512: shell |
| 16:45.15 | justin | Linuturk: maybe you need to change the host config somehow? I know where are a lot of changes lately with virtio |
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| 16:45.16 | stew | ttyS1: /msg dpkg etch sources.list |
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| 16:45.33 | stew | ttyS1: note that etch is no longer supported and you should be migrating to lenny then to squeeze |
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| 16:47.02 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 16:47.07 | inki | stew: thx! |
| 16:47.25 | proxy1 | my laptop has intel video card, is there a way to make squeeze not use intel framebuffer? i tried removing/chaning i915_kms.conf but it will either not start gdm (x.org fails, no device detected) or it still loads intelfb. |
| 16:47.40 | ttyS1 | stew:: yes thanks |
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| 16:49.10 | justin | proxy1: kms is not framebuffer |
| 16:49.32 | proxy1 | kernel mode switching.. |
| 16:49.49 | justin | yes, and I'm pretty sure you need that to run X on intel cards now |
| 16:49.52 | justin | why do you want to turn it off? |
| 16:50.00 | ix_ | . |
| 16:50.00 | proxy1 | i see. |
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| 16:50.29 | proxy1 | it kills my eyes...my screen flashes and in dark rooms it is annoying.. |
| 16:50.41 | justin | flashes? in X ? |
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| 16:50.46 | proxy1 | it flashes whenever switching modes (4 times at least)... |
| 16:50.55 | justin | how often do you switch modes? |
| 16:50.56 | nsadmin | , file bin/glxinfo |
| 16:51.00 | judd | bin/glxinfo in squeeze/i386: mesa-utils: usr/bin/glxinfo |
| 16:51.03 | proxy1 | i don't...squeeze does. |
| 16:51.17 | justin | how often does that happen? |
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| 16:51.47 | hargut | hello |
| 16:52.04 | proxy1 | once on grub menu, once on loading intelfb, once when gdm starts...and once after POST but thats not related to squeeze.. |
| 16:52.42 | fahmad | i have install bridge-utils using aptitude install bridge-utils and configured /etc/network/interfaces but when i restart /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 16:52.47 | proxy1 | i tried changing resolutions of grub menu to match the intelfb when it is loaded but it still happens...my laptop is thinkpad x200 |
| 16:52.49 | fahmad | it does not bring br0 up |
| 16:52.50 | fahmad | any idea |
| 16:53.04 | justin | fahmad: configured it how? |
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| 16:53.06 | hargut | I've just a question to the last versions of unstable. Since some days/weeks ago, my KDE always shows some notes of updates available. This means somewhere is an apt-get update automatically executed, I'm not sure if this is apt related, or KDE related, but I want to turn that off. Any hints for me? |
| 16:53.18 | fahmad | justin: lemme pb |
| 16:53.27 | fahmad | http://paste.ubuntu.com/564544/ |
| 16:53.39 | fahmad | justin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564544/ |
| 16:53.40 | amphi | proxy1: do you see flicker if you switch from X to another VT and back again? I don't here, on my x61s |
| 16:53.44 | thewanderer1 | hargut: look in /etc/cron.d* |
| 16:54.06 | vado | Hi, installed Deb 6 on this old 800Mhz 2002 Quicksilver Power Mac, can't get it co connect to the net via anything but ping. resolv.conf http://pastebin.com/1hk1RatA LSPCI http://pastebin.com/5QPNFY6j |
| 16:54.10 | proxy1 | amphi, I don't here too. |
| 16:54.11 | justin | fahmad: remove auto eth1 and iface eth1 and add auto br0 |
| 16:54.20 | fahmad | ok |
| 16:54.21 | fahmad | lemme do |
| 16:54.33 | justin | vado: how about ifconfig? route? |
| 16:54.39 | nsadmin | thewanderer1, the diversion thing led to the solution for my radeon/GLX problem (can not find symbolx) |
| 16:54.47 | nsadmin | symbols |
| 16:54.56 | proxy1 | i will switch back to grub-legacy |
| 16:54.58 | nsadmin | so |
| 16:55.00 | nsadmin | thanks |
| 16:55.03 | proxy1 | i hope it is not worse. |
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| 16:55.12 | justin | nsadmin: so it was the broken diversions? |
| 16:55.18 | amphi | proxy1: at boot, grub is at 1024x768, the screen goes briefly to normal 80x25 mode AFAICS, and then the kernel restores 1024x768 |
| 16:55.18 | nsadmin | no, |
| 16:55.28 | hargut | thewanderer1: Thanks, but is this new default behavior? |
| 16:55.41 | amphi | proxy1: AFAIR - I haven't booted for a little while |
| 16:55.47 | proxy1 | amphi, i see...thats it...is there away to keep kernel at console 80x25 all the time? |
| 16:55.57 | thewanderer1 | hargut: yes |
| 16:55.58 | fahmad | hugs justin |
| 16:55.59 | fahmad | justin: thanks |
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| 16:56.05 | vado | justin whats the full list of things I should look at? I've only got this Mac, since my laptop died the other day. |
| 16:56.14 | hargut | thewanderer1: Thanks! |
| 16:56.15 | nsadmin | but also removing fglrx-driver which had a third diversion turned out to be necessary... and for some reason, removing both caused the diversions to be removed |
| 16:56.40 | nsadmin | I wonder if aptitude remove doesn't touch diversions while aptitude purge removes them |
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| 16:57.17 | justin | vado: ifconfig would be a good start |
| 16:57.32 | nsadmin | justin, it seems weird to me. inconsistant... |
| 16:57.40 | justin | nsadmin: oh yeah, the first thing I told you to do was to remove all the fglrx stuff.. :) |
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| 16:57.42 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 16:58.16 | nsadmin | yeah, I didn't realize both were installed |
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| 16:58.42 | nsadmin | but now my youtubes can be full screen :) |
| 16:58.48 | luke-jr | Are there any drawbacks to using the amd64 kernel on a 32-bit system/userspace? |
| 16:58.50 | wojtek | hi |
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| 16:59.03 | gypsymauro | someone knows if squeeze includes the famous ~200 lines patch for scheduler of the kernel? in november someone sent a patch to the kernel and this speeds it up a lot :) |
| 16:59.06 | justin | luke-jr: pretty sure the amd64 kernel won't boot on a 32bit system |
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| 16:59.18 | luke-jr | justin: 64-bit hardware ;) |
| 16:59.22 | vado | justin ok, restarting |
| 16:59.40 | atmos4 | someone has an idea why none of the changes I do to files in /etc/exim4/conf.d/ make it into /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated although the date on the file changed afetr running update-exim4.conf ? |
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| 17:00.02 | amphi | proxy1: x200 is shortscreen, so 80x25 won't work too well, I don't think |
| 17:00.28 | nsadmin | thanks justin... if I would have searched for those packages, this would have been solved 2 days ago |
| 17:01.00 | proxy1 | amphi, thanks, that console 80x25 gave me a clue. found this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=54515 - trying now. |
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| 17:01.18 | proxy1 | bbl. |
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| 17:01.29 | deno | hi there |
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| 17:01.47 | deno | do you know if is possible to create a .deb with the debugging function enabled? |
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| 17:02.00 | wojtek | Have You ever remastered livecd? |
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| 17:02.30 | justin | deno: there are many such packages already. apt-cache search -- -dbg |
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| 17:02.55 | deno | justin, I need to create the package from the source code |
| 17:03.16 | wojtek | exit |
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| 17:04.18 | amphi | deno: yes, you can; get the source package, and build it with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 17:04.54 | deno | amphi, yes I used it but I mean, is it possible to build the package with the --enable-debug option isntalled? |
| 17:05.30 | amphi | deno: why not? |
| 17:05.55 | deno | amphi, cool :) |
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| 17:05.59 | deno | I m going to try it |
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| 17:06.29 | amphi | deno: several packages have -dbg versions, it nmight be worth making sure there is none in this case first |
| 17:06.56 | deno | amphi, I'm sure.. I'm sure :) |
| 17:07.03 | deno | thank you very much for the help |
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| 17:08.11 | allan2 | Did anyone have an idea on how to get the xserver-xorg installed? irc client caused me some grief when I asked earlier |
| 17:08.52 | nsadmin | try installing "xorg" |
| 17:09.04 | nsadmin | that will probably pull in all drivers |
| 17:09.26 | nsadmin | except not non-free and/or binary-only drivers |
| 17:09.31 | allan2 | nsadmin: uninstallable on unstable due to some dependencies issues and a package being rejected |
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| 17:10.50 | mostym | what's better fake raid10 or single 1TB 7200RPM 32MB cache single drive. |
| 17:10.54 | nsadmin | so, you solve those problems and then (if xorg and its deps are working) the install should work |
| 17:10.55 | datacrusher | hello! im with a fresh installed debian 6 system, and i need to unrar some .rar files. on my synaptic I got only "unrar-free" and i cant enable on the repos the non-free ones, the checkbox dont get enabled... |
| 17:11.07 | tului | mostym: better for what? |
| 17:11.19 | _Brandon_ | hi, anyone knows the default username and password of the debian livecd images? these one http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0-live/amd64/net/ |
| 17:11.29 | mostym | tului, safer. |
| 17:11.39 | mostym | fakeraid or no raid. |
| 17:11.54 | tului | mostym: md raid is better than no raid at all |
| 17:12.06 | nsadmin | datacrusher edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file with your fav text editor, and add contrib and non-free |
| 17:12.12 | daemonkeeper | mdraid is better than every consumer grade "hardware" raid |
| 17:12.21 | datacrusher | yeah! nsadmin ill do that |
| 17:12.25 | tului | preach it daemon! |
| 17:12.26 | mostym | daemonkeeper, really? |
| 17:12.29 | daemonkeeper | Yes. |
| 17:12.31 | tului | Yes, pretty much |
| 17:12.34 | nsadmin | if you need specific help with that you should pastebin that file |
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| 17:12.39 | tului | Until you break 300 bucks or so |
| 17:13.01 | dsockwell | mostym: if only for the reason that i's compatible with any controller, if you fry your motherboard you can take the disks anywhere and rebuild em |
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| 17:13.06 | daemonkeeper | Yup. A good RAID controller charges you 300-500$ at least, and everything below is waste of money. |
| 17:13.18 | daemonkeeper | Like: Your software raid is better |
| 17:13.35 | mostym | I was thinking about spending around $500 for a hardware raid controller. |
| 17:13.42 | mostym | with a BBU |
| 17:13.45 | nsadmin | you mean since the controller is basically free? :) |
| 17:13.46 | allan2 | nsadmin: hmm... it's not that easy. xserver-xorg depends on ...-input-evdev which conflicts with abi provided by the former |
| 17:14.02 | tului | If you need bbu, but realize if the controller is the failure point you're gonna have to shell out for another one |
| 17:14.07 | allan2 | Is experimental available for public download? |
| 17:14.12 | jhutchins | mostym: On the other hand, raid is one more thing to go wrong. |
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| 17:14.18 | mostym | lol |
| 17:14.21 | nsadmin | allan2, you might have to wait for the maints to fight it out |
| 17:14.36 | mostym | so it doesnt matter which option I choose, im pretty much fucked. |
| 17:14.38 | mostym | :P |
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| 17:14.53 | tului | mostym: I'd spend the $500 on more disks for better md raid redundancy. |
| 17:15.15 | mostym | well.. I only have a 1U box with 4 slots. |
| 17:15.17 | allan2 | nsadmin: not an option unforutnately |
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| 17:15.37 | tului | Ah |
| 17:16.24 | mostym | who wants to make some $$ ;)( |
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| 17:16.44 | Iridos | the man from nigeria already contacted me |
| 17:16.54 | mostym | since I have no experience with mdraid |
| 17:17.10 | mostym | lol Iridos |
| 17:17.10 | skamikaze | hi all |
| 17:17.12 | tului | mostym: get 3 or 4 usb drives and play around with it |
| 17:17.19 | anao | be careful of nigarian people |
| 17:17.21 | tului | mostym: it won't take a couple hours to figure out |
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| 17:17.38 | Iridos | any day now the $3.2 million will arrive... I'm sure of it |
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| 17:17.56 | tului | Then you can work on the md devices if there are problems or you need to add/remove disks |
| 17:18.17 | mostym | the box is colo'd at a DC tului :P |
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| 17:18.27 | anao | lol yeah millions for free... |
| 17:18.28 | skamikaze | I upgraded towards squeeze - besides mysql evrything is fine. I purged any msql stuff and reinstalled it and there's still no " /etc/init.d/mysql ". |
| 17:18.28 | tului | I mean on another system |
| 17:18.39 | skamikaze | what am i missing? |
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| 17:18.56 | dsockwell | did you look for /etc/init.d/mysql* ? |
| 17:19.02 | bibunsp | nsadmin, iv changed to this, but yet still havent got unrar-nonfree http://pastebin.com/k0BAywc8 |
| 17:19.03 | dsockwell | sometimes i'ts mysqld |
| 17:19.08 | _Brandon_ | nobodoy knows the default user and pass of the livecd images? :p |
| 17:19.12 | bibunsp | also missed quanta on the repos |
| 17:19.12 | mostym | tului, do I just do a normal install on a single disk then once debian is installed work with mdraid? |
| 17:19.18 | buntunub | hey have there been any security or bug fix updates for squeeze since release?.. I havent got any and wondering if there is something wrong or not |
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| 17:19.28 | nsadmin | anao, be careful of people whose irc nicks are four letters... or is it 7... I forgot! |
| 17:19.31 | dsockwell | mostym: you can set up mdraid in the installer |
| 17:19.44 | tului | mostym: I've got my install running mdraid1 as root |
| 17:20.23 | dsockwell | mostym: you just need to be smart about your partitions. for my raid1+0 i have a 250mb partition at the beginning of each disk, raid1 x4'd, serving as /boot |
| 17:20.24 | tului | mostym: /boot is a tiny partition on the first disk and the md raid members are other partitions combined with mdadm |
| 17:20.48 | dsockwell | mostym: then everything after that is reserved for raid1+0, and I put LVM2 on top of that |
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| 17:21.12 | dsockwell | THEN I made different partitions for /usr, /home, and all that, with about 100GB of my array |
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| 17:21.21 | dsockwell | and i use the rest for logical volumes for VMs |
| 17:21.45 | dsockwell | this setup took me about a day to set up, and i haven't touched on the encryption u use |
| 17:21.47 | themill | skamikaze: you probably need to install the mysql-server-5.1 package. |
| 17:21.57 | dsockwell | er, a day to work out, and maybe an hour to set up |
| 17:22.04 | dsockwell | starting from where you are now |
| 17:22.18 | jhutchins | _Brandon_: Check the web site you got it from. |
| 17:22.37 | skamikaze | themill: ah ouch - lol ty |
| 17:22.40 | _Brandon_ | jhutchins: I got it from here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0-live/amd64/net/ |
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| 17:22.53 | jhutchins | !live |
| 17:22.53 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 17:22.55 | tului | Brandon: What login do you need? |
| 17:23.59 | _Brandon_ | tului: the default user or root |
| 17:24.24 | tului | try user:live? |
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| 17:25.02 | tului | I imagine you'd have to login as a user and passwd root to login as root |
| 17:26.21 | _Brandon_ | tului: yeah I tried live already, but I've booted the iso from an usb drive so maybe there is some problem reading the passwd/shadow file |
| 17:26.47 | buntunub | hey have there been any security or bug fix updates for squeeze since release?.. I havent got any and wondering if there is something wrong or not |
| 17:26.51 | dsockwell | are you having trouble logging in or what? |
| 17:27.00 | themill | _Brandon_: when you boot it you automatically get logged in and sudo is set up to let you do what you please. |
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| 17:27.07 | dsockwell | i'd think a livecd would be single-user |
| 17:27.10 | dsockwell | or something |
| 17:27.47 | _Brandon_ | themill: yeah but it's not doing that, that's why I think there might be some problem with the usb boot |
| 17:27.52 | jeward | E: Couldn't find package firmware-linux-nonfree ??? |
| 17:28.05 | jeward | I get this while upgrading a box from lenny to squeeze. |
| 17:28.27 | themill | dpkg: tell jeward about non-free sources |
| 17:28.33 | jeward | Do I have to add a repo to sources.list? |
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| 17:29.09 | macrobat | man sources.list |
| 17:29.33 | themill | jeward: you could try pastebinning your sources.list to start with; /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 17:29.34 | mostym | Is it possible to use mdraid after installing debian on a single drive? |
| 17:29.36 | jeward | And should volatile be re-enabled after the process is finsihed? |
| 17:29.43 | ksk | . |
| 17:29.49 | themill | jeward: not quite; /msg dpkg squeeze volatile |
| 17:29.55 | beardy | Why is apt-get used for the upgrade lenny->squeeze? |
| 17:30.30 | themill | beardy: because aptitude gets too clever for its own boots and tries to destroy the system in the process (it even manages to uninstall itself in some of the tests I did) |
| 17:30.58 | beardy | themill: Interesting.. ok. |
| 17:31.24 | stew | it depends on the package set. for instance, if you just debootstrap and upgrade, aptitude does fine |
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| 17:32.37 | tului | mostym: md as / or just for data? |
| 17:32.40 | Ramblurr | i'm trying to install openjdk-6-jre-headless.. but even with -R it is trying to pull in libx* and libgtk2.0-common |
| 17:32.46 | themill | beardy: there were quite a few bugs where this was discussed further in either upgrade-reports or release-notes. |
| 17:33.26 | beardy | As long as it works. This is a remote virtual machine which I prefer to not have to carve on manually. |
| 17:33.39 | arand | what's the command pointing at the dsc file to download a source package? |
| 17:33.43 | themill | beardy: ack |
| 17:33.45 | themill | arand: dget |
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| 17:33.52 | arand | themill: cheers |
| 17:34.26 | buntunub | so have there been any updates to squeeze since release? |
| 17:35.03 | beardy | themill: Alright.. so, reading (only checked the factoid) a few meters of discussions, wait, or use apt-get and trust it'll work? :) |
| 17:35.07 | twinkie_addict | not that i have notived |
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| 17:35.23 | babilen | I need suggestions for a different backup system. I was using rsnapshot so far but can't use it anymore. I heard that deletion of old (unneeded) backups is very slow with rdiff-backup (which "feels" nice) and was under the impression that backuppc is the way to go. Any comments? (laptop backup, medium offline once in a while) |
| 17:35.28 | themill | beardy: wait for what? aptitude isn't going to suddenly fix itself in stable. |
| 17:35.46 | jhutchins | beardy: If you're worried about it install it as a secondary boot. |
| 17:36.05 | beardy | themill: Wait for whatever bugs the preamture relese has, to be fixed. Guess I'll wait for the next one.. |
| 17:36.18 | beardy | jhutchins: Secondary boot? |
| 17:36.21 | jhutchins | beardy: Apparently aptitude can go loopish trying to figure out all the dependencies. |
| 17:36.37 | jhutchins | beardy: lenny partition, squeeze partition, dual-boot. |
| 17:36.46 | stew | babilen: i've used both dirvish and backppc and they are both nice. backuppc is fancier, and is smarter about scheduling, but you lose the ability to easily browse through backups on the fs that you get with dirvish |
| 17:36.47 | jhutchins | beardy: If squeeze works, upgrade. |
| 17:36.52 | ksk | hello |
| 17:36.53 | Guest23171 | Server-X fail after an update on my Debian Sid nvidia is the probleme |
| 17:36.55 | beardy | This is a Xen-guest. I'll work it out myself as always.. |
| 17:37.08 | ksk | how to set locales/"LC_ALL" so it still has the value i like after a reboot? |
| 17:37.19 | beardy | !locales |
| 17:37.20 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
| 17:37.21 | babilen | stew: dirvish gives you that? |
| 17:37.38 | jhutchins | Guest23171: If you are using the ati drivers you will need to recompile them. |
| 17:37.46 | beardy | ksk: For your user if special, ~/.bashrc |
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| 17:37.54 | Guest23171 | no it is Nvidia |
| 17:38.05 | babilen | stew: ah, you said that already. Thanks for the suggestion I'll have a look. Just curios: Which one would you use -- subjective and everything? |
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| 17:38.26 | jhutchins | Guest23171: Same applies, I get 'em mixed up. ati is radeon, isn't it? |
| 17:38.26 | Guest23171 | fail to recompile too |
| 17:38.51 | Guest23171 | not working |
| 17:39.17 | ksk | beardy: thanks.. it already worked, just didng recon (cuz of some virtualisation story) |
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| 17:39.41 | jhutchins | !doesn't work |
| 17:39.41 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 17:39.45 | stew | babilen: yes, with dirvish, you get get a hardlink forest so like you can "ls $dirvish/$hostname/$date/tree" and see the entire filesystem that was backed up |
| 17:39.48 | jhutchins | !nvidia |
| 17:39.48 | dpkg | Install the appropriate <dkms> package for your card - ask me about <nvidia dkms> <nvidia dkms-173xx> <nvidia dkms-96xx> - and configure it in <xorg.conf.d>. Ask about <nvidia lenny> for <oldstable> procedures. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 17:39.53 | tharkun | !bber |
| 17:40.30 | babilen | stew: Is it fast/easy to delete "old" backups if needed? |
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| 17:40.43 | stew | babilen: just rm |
| 17:40.48 | babilen | wonderful |
| 17:40.53 | stew | babilen: but it will automatically cycle them out for you |
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| 17:41.10 | xyzp | hoho |
| 17:41.19 | stew | babilen: the downside is you can never really say "how much disk space do my backups use" since du runs out of memory keeping track of all the hardlinks |
| 17:41.35 | stew | babilen: backuppc is smart enough to give you good data about this |
| 17:41.37 | vado | can't get networking on Deb 6 on a PPC Mac G4: Resolv.conf http://pastebin.com/1hk1RatA LSPCI http://pastebin.com/5QPNFY6j IFConfig http://pastebin.com/YgGnxteh Route http://pastebin.com/vw94vmkP |
| 17:41.41 | tului | mostym: any luck on figuring out mdadm syntax? |
| 17:41.55 | babilen | ah, just like rsnapshot -- does it have the same problems ... Like "daily.5 is going to be cycled out but weekly did not run therefore someting is fishy" |
| 17:42.09 | xyzp | GNU |
| 17:42.26 | Guest23171 | no more server-X after a simple update on debian sid m-a and reinstallation of the nvidia driver does not change anything |
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| 17:43.39 | mostym | tului, I think it's better if I just install everyone on sda, then grab a raid controller, and have that in raid10 |
| 17:43.48 | mostym | I think the DC can squezze another drive in there. |
| 17:44.09 | themill | babilen: I've never had rsnapshot have any issues with that. But my cycling is such that "hourly" "daily" and "weekly" don't have the traditional meanings of the words. |
| 17:45.03 | tului | mostym: If you're more comfortable, but mdraid takes maybe 10 minutes to set up the partitions and md devices once you know how you want it laid out |
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| 17:45.19 | pipeline | vado: can you ping 192.168.0.1 from the mac ? |
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| 17:46.09 | pipeline | vado: p.s. thanks for including all the relevant data in your question, no waiting for pastes haha |
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| 17:46.29 | babilen | themill: OK, that would explain it. But it is basically a sucession of, lets call them waterfalls. I had a problem that my hourly.? was cycled out, but my daily ran without the backup disk being present and ended up with not very good backups. And they had nothing to do with "hourly" "daily" "monthly" and so on .. I am basically looking for a tool that does not have this problem. |
| 17:46.31 | vado | pipeline I can ping and whois to google, but nothing else works, no apt, browsers or chat work |
| 17:46.53 | jeward | Is this a valid entry for squeeze sources.list: deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free |
| 17:47.06 | jeward | Because apt-get can't find the kernel now. |
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| 17:47.26 | divith | ping |
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| 17:47.33 | vado | pipeline yeah, well I've only got this Mac to work with, my laptop died so I'm trying to dualboot this ancient Mac |
| 17:47.35 | jeward | E: Couldn't find package linux-image-686 |
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| 17:47.52 | themill | babilen: ahh.. I do have a wrapper script that checks to make sure that the backup disk is present before continuing. I think rsnapshot has a config option for not proceeding if there's no backup set there. |
| 17:48.02 | thewanderer1 | if I add an address with `ip addr add`, does it automatically create a route to the network? |
| 17:48.18 | themill | jeward: that's not a full mirror but only an empty list of updated packages |
| 17:48.25 | pipeline | vado: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? also, are you using dhcp ? |
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| 17:48.33 | pipeline | thewanderer1: yes |
| 17:48.37 | thewanderer1 | pipeline: thanks |
| 17:48.40 | pipeline | thewanderer1: you always have routes for your locally attached networks |
| 17:48.45 | thewanderer1 | ok... |
| 17:48.47 | jeward | themill: it was suggested by dplg. |
| 17:48.54 | pipeline | thewanderer1: but the traffic won't be routed between nets unless you enable ip forwarding |
| 17:48.57 | jeward | themill: dpkg |
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| 17:49.10 | themill | jeward: no it wasn't.... you asked about volatile and dpkg told you about the new name for volatile. |
| 17:49.16 | pipeline | thewanderer1: i.e. the kernel will know where to send traffic, but it won't pick up non-local traffic off the wire unless forwarding is turned on |
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| 17:49.30 | vado | pipeline yes dhcp, I'll have to restart to try the ping though |
| 17:49.30 | jhutchins | vado: My guess would be that the domain server at 192.168.0.1 isn't pulling it's weight. |
| 17:49.34 | themill | jeward: dpkg never told you that you could use only that in your sources.list |
| 17:49.36 | jeward | themill: Okay... do I just need to add squeeze to that line and a real repo? |
| 17:49.54 | themill | dpkg: tell jeward about squeeze sources.list |
| 17:49.57 | pipeline | vado: ok so what I think you want to do |
| 17:50.05 | pipeline | vado: is disable dhcp updates of resolv.conf |
| 17:50.17 | pipeline | vado: and edit resolv.conf yourself, to use the name servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 (google anycast dns) |
| 17:50.33 | pipeline | vado: if you can "whois" then your external networking is working.. you probably just have inconsistently working dns |
| 17:50.45 | pipeline | vado: I think it's just 'Dnsupdate no' in dhclient.conf |
| 17:50.54 | pipeline | vado: man dhclient.conf to make sure |
| 17:51.51 | vado | pipeline so how do I do that? I'm an Ubuntu and Mac n00b, this is my first venture to real Debian |
| 17:52.25 | jhutchins | pipeline: I think my first step would be to confirm that he's not getting resolution with the current setup, then try commenting out what's probably the router at 192.168.0.1, see if what is probably the ISP's DNS works ok and go from there. |
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| 17:53.04 | pipeline | jhutchins: he has to reboot to try anything, so going step by step is kind of a pain |
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| 17:54.27 | deno | hi there |
| 17:54.36 | kblessinggr | I'm having a little trouble using update-alternatives to switch vi over to vim-common , and there's no other alternatives lsited |
| 17:54.37 | pipeline | vado: edit dhclient.conf, add this line to the end: "supersede domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" then reboot. |
| 17:54.55 | deno | I'm packaging an application but when I execute: dpkg-buildpackage -sa -rfakeroot |
| 17:54.55 | deno | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:55.00 | pipeline | vado: then your dns should in theory be straightened out... verify by checking that resolv.conf contains 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 instead of its present ctontents |
| 17:55.13 | deno | I tried also to create the ChangeLog file |
| 17:55.21 | deno | but it doesn't work anyway |
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| 17:55.23 | snax | hi |
| 17:55.53 | snax | which file do i put commands that I want executed upon login? |
| 17:55.54 | stew | deno: does the upstream source have a changelog? |
| 17:56.22 | jhutchins | I'm getting 404's on dmm for lenny. Source is configured per factoid. |
| 17:56.39 | deno | stew: uhm |
| 17:57.01 | deno | stew: the .tar.gz? |
| 17:57.09 | deno | stew: maybe it hasn't |
| 17:57.12 | deno | kk |
| 17:57.14 | deno | thx |
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| 17:58.09 | bhodgins | Anyone ever had any problems with ata over ethernet? I never have but when I set it up today it's reporting a disk as 1.998 GB when it's actually 9 GB |
| 17:59.03 | jelly-home | bhodgins: GB or TB? |
| 17:59.07 | bhodgins | GB |
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| 17:59.48 | jhutchins | Wow. "Oldstable is completely broken and I can't restore this release, so the best is to remove Oldstable" - I think he means lenny. |
| 18:00.04 | stew | deno: it might be named "NEWS" |
| 18:00.08 | keith4 | drupal6 isn't in squeeze? any way to find out what happened to it? |
| 18:00.16 | stew | deno: but if there isn't one, there is no reason to run dh_installchangelogs |
| 18:00.46 | stew | judd: info drupal6 --release squeeze |
| 18:00.51 | judd | Package drupal6 (web, extra) in squeeze/i386: a fully-featured content management framework. Version: 6.18-1; Size: 1099.8k; Installed: 4948k; Homepage: http://www.drupal.org/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/drupal6 |
| 18:01.03 | themill | jhutchins: wow. And yes, oldstable is lenny. |
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| 18:01.32 | deno | stew, uhm |
| 18:01.35 | jon8 | whats the fastest way to tarball a directory that contains about 50,000 directories.. with a few files in each directory.. |
| 18:01.48 | deno | stew, there is.. if I don't run it I can't get the .deb package |
| 18:02.10 | stew | deno: what? why do you need to run dh_installchangelogs if there is no changelog? |
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| 18:02.13 | vado | pipeline jhutchins restarting |
| 18:02.15 | daemonkeeper | jon8: Is there more than onee way? |
| 18:02.19 | daemonkeeper | *one |
| 18:02.34 | jon8 | daemonkeeper i'm just loking for the fatest way to do this.. tar, zip, rar whatever.. |
| 18:02.45 | keith4 | stew: interesting. PDO problem? http://packages.debian.org/drupal6 |
| 18:02.50 | stew | judd: of those tools, on tar creates tarballs |
| 18:02.52 | daemonkeeper | jon8: tar (j|z)cf foo.tar.(bz2|gz) yourdir |
| 18:02.56 | deno | stew, I need to create the .deb |
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| 18:03.02 | bhodgins | yeah what the heck if I do it to my other disk it's correct |
| 18:03.07 | stew | keith4: no problem here |
| 18:03.11 | deno | stew, I'm a beginner with packaging |
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| 18:03.30 | keith4 | stew: oh weird. i just reloaded and now it shows up... |
| 18:03.42 | keith4 | bad timing on my part, i guess. nevermind! |
| 18:03.52 | stew | deno: are you calling dh_installchangelogs explicitly? or are you using dh? |
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| 18:04.32 | deno | I used before: dh_make -f ../hello-0.1.tar.gz |
| 18:05.04 | deno | stew, yes there is a NEWS file and no changelog |
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| 18:05.31 | stew | deno: can you show us your debian/rules? |
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| 18:06.14 | deno | I ll pastebin it |
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| 18:06.22 | Arrowmaster | you have a debian/changelog file? |
| 18:06.28 | deno | http://pastebin.com/dTkY34Zq |
| 18:06.56 | deno | Arrowmaster, eys |
| 18:06.58 | deno | yes |
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| 18:07.34 | deno | I'm trying to package an application with the debug logging enabled |
| 18:07.59 | stew | deno: "dh_installchangelogs ChangeLog" should be "dh_installchangelogs NEWS" |
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| 18:08.37 | deno | stew: so should I ype dh_installchangelogs NEWS, right? |
| 18:08.55 | jeward | themill: Not everything is available on cdn.debian.org? |
| 18:09.00 | stew | deno: edit that line in debian/rules |
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| 18:09.13 | deno | stew, ah yes sorry |
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| 18:09.32 | kannan1222 | is there a command to test if mail is sendable |
| 18:09.40 | themill | jeward: cdn.debian.*net*. squeeze and squeeze-updates repos should be available from that set of mirrors. |
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| 18:10.09 | shamelessn00b | ok, so turns out everything was perfect till I discovered that I created the file which is too large for ec2-bundle-image |
| 18:10.20 | joe6 | i added this : XKBOPTIONS="ctrl:swapcaps" to /etc/default/keyboard and rebooted the machine. It does not have any effect. Though, the Xkbvariant="dvorak" in the same file took effect. Any suggestions, please? |
| 18:10.21 | shamelessn00b | how can I reduce the file size? |
| 18:10.27 | jeward | themill: So I could in theory have: deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-updates squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 18:10.37 | deno | stew, should I create again the .tar.gz from it? |
| 18:10.51 | joe6 | i even tried the "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh console-setup" without any luck. |
| 18:10.57 | petemc | kannan1222: if you're using exim, exim -bt foo@bar |
| 18:11.01 | jeward | themill: or are the others missing? |
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| 18:11.07 | shamelessn00b | with reference to this guide, dd if=/dev/zero of=debian-ami count=12000 bs=1M |
| 18:11.12 | shamelessn00b | this is what I did |
| 18:11.15 | kannan1222 | i am using qmail |
| 18:11.18 | Spec | kannan1222: or mail -s 'subject' person@domain.tld < /dev/null |
| 18:11.24 | petemc | unlucky |
| 18:12.00 | Spec | shamelessn00b: make it smaller...by reducing the count. count*bs = size of file |
| 18:12.04 | Joelito | hi guys |
| 18:12.15 | Joelito | I'm having problem in my debian squeeze |
| 18:12.24 | deno | stew, it WORKED |
| 18:12.26 | shamelessn00b | Spec: would it effect the OS or anything else I installed on that file? |
| 18:12.28 | deno | thank you very very much |
| 18:12.30 | Joelito | in my box I have dual boot: debian and Win7 |
| 18:12.31 | shamelessn00b | using chroot |
| 18:12.37 | Spec | shamelessn00b: yes, it will delete it all with zeroes. |
| 18:12.49 | shamelessn00b | so should I start over? |
| 18:12.52 | Joelito | debian has no internet connection but Win7 does, what it can be? |
| 18:13.03 | kannan1222 | mail -s "subject' gratnam1@bhs-consultants.com </dev/null |
| 18:13.03 | kannan1222 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.18 | Spec | shamelessn00b: hrmm. there probably is a way ....to dd from that file to a new file (smaller), and then resize the filesystem... |
| 18:13.21 | justin | kannan1222: try echo |mail -s "subject' gratnam1@bhs-consultants.com |
| 18:13.35 | Spec | kannan1222: did you do "subject' |
| 18:13.38 | Spec | kannan1222: or "subject" ? |
| 18:13.43 | jeward | Match the quotes though IMO. |
| 18:13.46 | Spec | mismatched quotes will let it hang on > |
| 18:13.53 | justin | oh, lol |
| 18:13.54 | petemc | kannan1222: its worth pointing out that if you use the mail command you're not testing but actually attempting to send a mail |
| 18:13.59 | kannan1222 | oh yeah |
| 18:14.03 | kannan1222 | i did the quotes wrong |
| 18:14.05 | kannan1222 | thanks |
| 18:14.06 | Spec | petemc: pedantic ;) |
| 18:14.09 | petemc | :) |
| 18:14.17 | joe6 | hello, any suggestions on /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS="ctrl:swapcaps" |
| 18:14.43 | justin | kannan1222: then it didn't hang, it displayed '> ', didn't it? |
| 18:14.51 | shamelessn00b | Spec: how :| |
| 18:14.56 | kannan1222 | yes |
| 18:14.59 | kannan1222 | your right |
| 18:15.07 | Spec | shamelessn00b: well, how much space do you think is actually used vs free in the image? |
| 18:15.10 | themill | jeward: no, that's not correct at all. |
| 18:15.16 | shamelessn00b | nearly all of it |
| 18:15.29 | Spec | shamelessn00b: then you don't wanna resize it to be smaller, do you? :p |
| 18:15.38 | jeward | themill: Can't have everything from one repo? |
| 18:15.53 | shamelessn00b | No sorry, I mean all of it is free |
| 18:15.57 | shamelessn00b | nearly all of it is free |
| 18:16.00 | kannan1222 | mail -s 'subject' gratnam1@bhs-consultants.com |
| 18:16.00 | kannan1222 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.16 | Spec | end of transmission? that's a good thing, right? :p |
| 18:16.23 | shamelessn00b | I just installed vim, ssh and debootstrap |
| 18:16.33 | kannan1222 | its not telling me if its valid or not |
| 18:16.40 | Spec | did you get an email? :p |
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| 18:16.52 | kannan1222 | lol yes |
| 18:16.52 | Spec | check /var/log/mail.log or /var/log/mail.info (i think) |
| 18:17.18 | kannan1222 | see the thing is i want to do a mail blast, i want to check if the emails i have is valid before i send them out |
| 18:17.21 | themill | Spec: see "man 5 sources.list". the "squeeze" or "squeeze-updates" bit is the "distribution" and you can only supply one of them per deb line. You can supply multiple components (non-free, contrib, main) however. |
| 18:17.34 | Spec | themill: nothx :) |
| 18:17.37 | kannan1222 | i want to write a script |
| 18:17.42 | macrobat | joe6: what do you want to do with the keyboard options? |
| 18:17.45 | Spec | kannan1222: how do you verify an e-mail as existing without trying to send it? |
| 18:18.10 | jeward | themill: Oh I see. |
| 18:18.14 | justin | kannan1222: spam is bad. |
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| 18:18.16 | kannan1222 | yah but the mail -s command doesnt say anything even when i send to wrong address |
| 18:18.25 | Arrowmaster | you can find out if the server will accept email to that address without actually sending anything |
| 18:18.26 | kannan1222 | its not spam |
| 18:18.27 | joe6 | macrobat: i want dvorak and swap the control and capslock key |
| 18:18.28 | Spec | kannan1222: your mail relay will have those details |
| 18:18.29 | kannan1222 | its advertising |
| 18:18.36 | jeward | :-) |
| 18:18.42 | joe6 | i can get dvorak to work, but not the ctrl:swapcaps |
| 18:18.46 | Spec | kannan1222: so why don't you check /var/log/mail.log for errors, or message refused, or recipient doesn't exist, or... |
| 18:18.58 | joe6 | macrobat: does that make sense? |
| 18:19.07 | jeward | Or swoon check yourself on spam blacklists... |
| 18:19.08 | Spec | also, lots of mail servers will drop spam quietly with no response, kannan1222. in that case, there's nothing you can do. (also, it's spam) |
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| 18:19.33 | joe6 | macrobat: i added the options to /etc/default/keyboard and rebooted the system more than once, without any luck. |
| 18:19.33 | Spec | no one wants the 85% off viagra. pay full price plz |
| 18:20.50 | shamelessn00b | Spec: I meant all of the file is empty |
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| 18:20.57 | shamelessn00b | reducing size won't hurt |
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| 18:21.38 | tului | The funny thing is, in Mexico, Viagra is over the counter |
| 18:21.41 | tului | Stupid FDA |
| 18:22.01 | thingfish | tului: everything is over the counter in Mexico, almost |
| 18:22.04 | petemc | kannan1222: qmail doesnt support address testing, postfix and exim do tho |
| 18:22.06 | tului | I know :-) |
| 18:22.10 | thingfish | :) |
| 18:22.17 | thingfish | moves to Mexico |
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| 18:22.24 | tului | lol, I'm already here |
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| 18:22.25 | macrobat | joe6: i would think that is doable. i'm not on debian at the moment, can't try the keyboard conf |
| 18:22.49 | Spec | shamelessn00b: oh :p |
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| 18:22.59 | Spec | shamelessn00b: why not just start again if it's just an empty file? :p |
| 18:23.15 | wildc4rd | evenin' |
| 18:23.17 | shamelessn00b | cuz I'll have to do all this again |
| 18:23.19 | shamelessn00b | http://www.linuxconfig.org/howto-create-bundle-upload-and-access-custom-debian-ami-using-ubuntu |
| 18:23.24 | Spec | tului: if viagra became over-the-counter, we'd lose 80%+ of all spam :( |
| 18:23.31 | shamelessn00b | ;_; |
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| 18:23.45 | jeward | :-0 |
| 18:23.59 | macrobat | joe6: you could try swapping caps ctrl with xmodmap and leave the console for later |
| 18:24.04 | Spec | shamelessn00b: well, those are clear instructions. i'd only be able to give you paritally-clear untested instructions to resize it ;) |
| 18:24.24 | shamelessn00b | as long as they work :P |
| 18:24.38 | shamelessn00b | I don't have any issues |
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| 18:27.18 | shamelessn00b | so if I have to start over, I just remove the debian-ec2 file? |
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| 18:27.23 | shamelessn00b | create a new one?? |
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| 18:27.48 | shamelessn00b | debian-ami* file |
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| 18:27.59 | _____________ | i'm using Sid, and with update today, I cant install xserver-xorg |
| 18:28.11 | kblessinggr | I'm using squeeze, I know there's a way to list all installed packages with --get-selections , but is there a way I can see what packages were installed from a specific source (ie: DotDeb) so that I may remove them? |
| 18:28.14 | Arrowmaster | !sid |
| 18:28.14 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 18:28.28 | stuckey | Anyone know a good dual-booting guide? |
| 18:28.37 | streuner_ | xserver-xorg is broken in sid today :-) |
| 18:28.47 | themill | _____________: welcome to sid. |
| 18:28.49 | tului | El Sid Campeador |
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| 18:29.04 | _____________ | themill, first time I have a problem like that ina year |
| 18:29.34 | karlpinc | _____________: It's been changed little waiting for squeeze to release. You should see a lot of breakage now! |
| 18:29.51 | _____________ | ok |
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| 18:29.55 | _____________ | makes sense |
| 18:30.23 | themill | _____________: and for most of that year, sid has been stabilising towards a release. Expect to see lots of breakage for the next 6-12 months. And the best bit is that you get to keep both bits when it breaks \o/ |
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| 18:31.37 | kblessinggr | :P sure a lot of people ready to respond to the usage of sid ^_^ |
| 18:31.52 | geekie | haha _____________ your nick is highly frustrating :) |
| 18:32.30 | streuner_ | he used that nick, because he asked about sid! ;-) |
| 18:32.39 | streuner_ | nice tric :-) |
| 18:32.56 | _____________ | geekie, i dont understand why people seem to dislike my nick that much |
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| 18:33.13 | geekie | because when reading in the channel it stands out too much :) |
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| 18:33.55 | geekie | and it's like, you're nothing, can't prounance it in my head when reading :) |
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| 18:34.45 | amphi | _____________: it creates ugly lacunae in my display |
| 18:34.54 | tului | I've been reading it as "You Score" or uscore |
| 18:34.57 | tului | personally |
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| 18:35.29 | amphi | !nickometer _____________ |
| 18:35.31 | dpkg | '_____________' is 99.9929% lame, amphi |
| 18:35.51 | amphi | even the bot doesn't care for it, it seems |
| 18:35.55 | torep | On my squeeze, I have a r8169 eth0 interface. Whenever I wake up fro sleep, the network goes down. I have tried modprobe but in vain. Anyone has any idea about this? |
| 18:36.06 | tului | Tomorrow you can say "Remember that blank that was in here asking about Sid" |
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| 18:36.29 | tului | torep: modprobe -r 8169 and then modprobe 8169 |
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| 18:36.36 | tului | and it still doesn't come back up? |
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| 18:37.04 | jelly-home | amphi: thankfully it's easy to /ig _____________!*@* |
| 18:37.09 | torep | tului: didn't work |
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| 18:37.49 | tului | I'm not sure, is it an on-board adapter on the motherboard? |
| 18:38.00 | torep | yeah |
| 18:38.17 | Guest53249 | I'm not sure I'm in the right place, I'm receiving an error when unpacking a self-made debian package |
| 18:38.44 | torep | I had same problem earlier with ubuntu but it was way back....I got it solved then |
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| 18:39.59 | Guest53249 | is there a better place to ask? The error is a short read on buffer copy for backend |
| 18:40.12 | sarthe | hello, im about to dist-upgrade from lenny to squeeze. Any quirks to look out for? |
| 18:40.16 | noodleking | hello |
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| 18:40.33 | noodleking | what's the best irc client to use with Debian? |
| 18:40.40 | beardy | sarthe: Yes. I suggest you read the release notes. |
| 18:40.50 | streuner_ | some people say irssi |
| 18:40.51 | noodleking | I installed xchat-gnome, but it looks shabbier than the ubuntu version |
| 18:40.56 | macrobat | noodleking: try xchat, weechat, irssi |
| 18:40.59 | streuner_ | those who prefer non-guis |
| 18:41.00 | cahoot | !tell noodleking about popcon |
| 18:41.02 | jelly-home | Guest53249: sounds like you didn't copy the file properly. Can you pastebin the full output of the installation command, together with that command?\ |
| 18:41.23 | macrobat | noodleking: i think xchat is better than xchat-gnome, but i haven tried a recent version |
| 18:41.30 | sarthe | beardy, doh. good idea... |
| 18:41.38 | noodleking | k, I'll do an install, see what it's like |
| 18:41.45 | jelly-home | Guest53249: also dpkg -l dpkg libc6 |tail -2 ...which distro and release are you using? |
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| 18:41.57 | noodleking | I was thinking that the gnome version would be more up to date. |
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| 18:42.26 | Guest53249 | http://pastebin.com/ew3ubBMb |
| 18:42.52 | Guest53249 | that website was an amazing discovery |
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| 18:43.53 | Guest53249 | using ubuntu 10.10 |
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| 18:44.32 | jelly-home | Guest53249: how did you create the .deb file? It seems the contents of the data.tar therein may not be complete |
| 18:44.46 | keith4 | stew: i'm not crazy. i'm seeing the same problem with "mahara" now: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mahara |
| 18:45.01 | Guest53249 | dpkg-deb -b nwn_1.69.1_i386 |
| 18:45.02 | Guest53249 | and wait |
| 18:45.19 | kblessinggr | How do I show my installed packages via dpkg WITH the repos they were installed from |
| 18:45.50 | themill | kblessinggr: /msg dpkg which repo |
| 18:46.18 | keith4 | stew: http://imagebin.org/136785 |
| 18:46.19 | jeward | So, I'm doing a dist-upgrade and it's sat at openoffice.org-core for over ten minutes... Should I attempt to interrupt and restart or let it sit? |
| 18:46.21 | Arrowmaster | that info isnt really stored, best you can do is try to figure out which repos are currently offering the package and version you have installed |
| 18:46.31 | jelly-home | Guest53249: I'd google the message. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22short+read+on+buffer+copy+for+backend+dpkg-deb%22 |
| 18:46.42 | Arrowmaster | jeward: is it downloading or installing? |
| 18:46.53 | jeward | Setting up openoffice.org-core (1:3.2.1-11+squeeze2) ... |
| 18:47.33 | keith4 | stew: seems to happen for any obscure package that I can think of. the first time, it shows only in sid. then a reload, a few minutes later, shows lenny, squeeze, and sid. |
| 18:47.43 | Guest53249 | at least the first few sites that I read were for specific packages, and I didn't see what the actual problem means |
| 18:47.44 | keith4 | e.g., it just did the same thing with "swatch" |
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| 18:48.16 | jeward | Arrowmaster: Installing. |
| 18:48.30 | jon8 | is there a changelog page describing the changes between lenny and squeeze? |
| 18:48.32 | kblessinggr | thanks themill |
| 18:48.39 | themill | np |
| 18:48.40 | thewanderer1 | what is responsible for creating 'lo' interface and setting it to 'loopback' mode? |
| 18:48.53 | justin | thewanderer1: /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 18:49.01 | keith4 | jon8: there's a multi-page "release notes" document |
| 18:49.01 | thewanderer1 | justin: I need actual commands I can reproduce... |
| 18:49.09 | justin | thewanderer1: ifconfig/ip |
| 18:49.15 | keith4 | jon8: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes |
| 18:49.38 | jeward | Arrowmaster: I guess I can always reinstall openoffice if the package gets borked? |
| 18:49.39 | jelly-home | Guest53249: does it happen with dpkg --unpack foo.deb somedir/ as well? Does it happen if you dpkg-deb -b the contents again? |
| 18:49.51 | thewanderer1 | justin: care to tell me the actual command? I can't see anything related to lo in ip... |
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| 18:50.19 | Guest53249 | that would take a bit to verify. I'll try doing dpkg --unpack first |
| 18:50.26 | Arrowmaster | jeward: i just asked because i know openoffice is huge and last time i updated it i thought it hung up while downloading |
| 18:50.27 | justin | thewanderer1: just bring it up like any other interface and give it 127.0.0.1/255.0.0.0 |
| 18:50.30 | jon8 | thank you keith4 |
| 18:50.42 | thewanderer1 | justin: yes, but first it needs to exist as an interface |
| 18:50.48 | justin | thewanderer1: it already exists |
| 18:50.50 | thewanderer1 | how? |
| 18:50.54 | jelly-home | Guest53249: there's also a report of nod32-for-linux interfering |
| 18:50.56 | justin | thewanderer1: magic? |
| 18:51.07 | thewanderer1 | justin: well, this is what I'm trying to find out... |
| 18:51.17 | jeward | wonders if openoffice was trying to talk to X11 during install? |
| 18:51.18 | thewanderer1 | how to create the interface |
| 18:51.30 | justin | thewanderer1: you don't |
| 18:51.49 | thewanderer1 | justin: so how does it find its way to the kernel's structures? |
| 18:52.20 | justin | thewanderer1: it's already there |
| 18:52.34 | thewanderer1 | compiled-in? |
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| 18:53.02 | Guest53249 | exact same error before rebuilding, verifying dpkg-deb -b a second time |
| 18:53.02 | thewanderer1 | I thought I'd need some help from the userspace to create it... |
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| 18:56.31 | Guest53249 | while I'm waiting for dpkg-deb to do it's thing, how do we reply to specific people as such? |
| 18:56.52 | Guest53249 | I doubt you're typing "Guest53249: " before everything |
| 18:57.04 | justin | Guest53249: tab |
| 18:57.35 | Guest53249 | ? |
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| 18:59.00 | beardy | !tab |
| 18:59.00 | dpkg | it has been said that tab is part of the varndean crew, slightly slimy at times though, or a very old diet soda. tabtabtab, or what reasonably intelligent irc clients will let you use to recall the nick that most recently posted something in a channel. |
| 18:59.04 | Guest53249 | !tab |
| 18:59.19 | beardy | Yes, that's right. |
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| 18:59.35 | Guest53249 | !tab i see? |
| 18:59.45 | Guest53249 | asdf |
| 18:59.48 | stew | keith4: check the bts for the www.debian.org pseudopackage and see if this has been filed |
| 19:00.05 | Guest53249 | nope, don't understand |
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| 19:00.27 | Guest53249 | the tab key does nothing, and typing tab does nothing, and typing !tab does nothing |
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| 19:00.58 | joe6 | i am not sure how others feel but this debian upgrade to testing has been a nightmare for me. I cannot get the XKBoptions to work. If I get the Gnome to take care of it, it ignores my xmodmap and xkbset commands that I had in the xmonad.hs script |
| 19:01.14 | jhutchins | Guest53249: What client? |
| 19:01.28 | beardy | Guest53249: Are you familliar with the input method known as keyboard? There is a key usually inscribed or labeled "TAB", it may also have two arrows on it pointing in different directions. Above the CapsLock key. Pressing it after typing the first characters in a nickname will complete it with the rest of the characters. |
| 19:01.48 | joe6 | the fonts are off. I cannot seem to get the fonts right on any install. |
| 19:02.02 | jhutchins | beardy: Pressing it by itself may well do nothing thoughl. |
| 19:02.09 | joe6 | which is a good font for the terminal? |
| 19:02.11 | Guest53249 | using xchat |
| 19:02.28 | beardy | joe6: The Terminus fonts. |
| 19:02.45 | Guest53249 | and beardy, I feel insulted, I tried that key. It laughed at me |
| 19:03.37 | Guest53249 | maybe it's not an xchat thing? |
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| 19:03.56 | ksk | squeezing my openVZ host and the VEs just worked perfectly - thanks debian :) |
| 19:04.10 | beardy | Guest53249: It should work in xchat afaik. |
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| 19:04.53 | joe6 | beardy: the terminus fonts are not good. They are either too tiny or too big. I have another machine which has good fonts and I started the xterm on that machine with xterm -fa Monospace. |
| 19:05.02 | beardy | !good |
| 19:05.06 | beardy | !best |
| 19:05.06 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 19:05.16 | joe6 | I cannot seem to get the same setup on this machine using the same command. |
| 19:05.44 | macrobat | i like inconsolata or deja vu sans mono |
| 19:05.45 | beardy | joe6: You said terminal, not xterm.. I still like them though. |
| 19:06.40 | macrobat | i'm happy with terminus on urxvt |
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| 19:08.09 | jaggz | is there a way to do multiple inputs into programs now? like "diff a b" is normal, but some way to handle multiple piped inputs? fooa >&a & foob >&b & diff a b (not that this makes sense, and the timing of creation of these pseudo-files (a and b) is not proper |
| 19:08.15 | joe6 | let me just get rid of the .gnome folder and try again. |
| 19:08.22 | Guest53249 | repeated the steps to the error again, Here is the pastbin: http://pastebin.com/Kik3PtVv |
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| 19:08.41 | joe6 | macrobat: deja vu sans mono |
| 19:08.51 | joe6 | how did u install it? |
| 19:09.01 | joe6 | no dejavu package on apt? |
| 19:09.12 | stew | Guest53249: looks to me like your nwn package is broken in multiple ways |
| 19:09.44 | Guest53249 | multiple ways... wonderful |
| 19:09.49 | macrobat | i see 3 dejavu pkgs |
| 19:09.56 | jaggz | or how about: multipipe 'outputcmd1' 'outputcmd2' 'program', which I guess could just handle it by piping outputcmd1 and 2 into /tmp/ files and executing 'program' with those as arguments |
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| 19:10.19 | justin | jaggz: diff <(fooa) <(foob) |
| 19:10.21 | stew | Guest53249: note that this isn't a debian package. you should figure out if wherever you got that from has a bug tracker or perhaps email the maintainer |
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| 19:10.25 | macrobat | ttf-dejavu apparently includes the other two |
| 19:10.46 | xyan | and is in sid only... |
| 19:10.48 | jhutchins | Guest53249: Tab should work in xchat, if you type the first few letters of a nic then hit tab. |
| 19:10.55 | joe6 | macrobat: sorry, i was looking somewhere else. |
| 19:11.00 | jhutchins | Guest53249: Once you've used a nic, just hitting tab should repeat it. |
| 19:11.05 | Guest53249 | nwn is the game Neverwinter Nights, it's a commercial binary |
| 19:11.18 | Guest53249 | it works before I make a debian package with it |
| 19:11.39 | jhutchins | Guest53249: How would you expect dpkg to build a package from a binary? |
| 19:11.41 | joe6 | macrobat: it seems to look very similar to inconosolata? |
| 19:11.50 | stew | jhutchins: why would that matter? |
| 19:11.54 | jhutchins | Guest53249: Dpkg builds from source afik. |
| 19:11.59 | stew | jhutchins: you don't know |
| 19:12.00 | beardy | jaggz: Is it xargs and tee you're looking for? |
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| 19:12.08 | joe6 | i used to love the kde konsole font. But, could not get it on gnome. Does anyone use it? |
| 19:12.08 | Guest53249 | ... then I have been severely misinformed |
| 19:12.11 | keith4 | stew: lots of bugs filed for packages.debian.org, but nothing with a subject that seems relevant |
| 19:12.12 | jhutchins | stew: So it can package a pre-built binary. |
| 19:12.20 | jordanm | jhutchins: yes |
| 19:12.26 | jhutchins | Interesting. |
| 19:12.29 | stew | jhutchins: dpkg can't no, but the tools one uses to build packages can |
| 19:12.33 | justin | Guest53249: what are these "steps" you refer to? |
| 19:12.41 | stew | well, i guess dpkg can |
| 19:12.46 | stew | but its not what one would use |
| 19:12.52 | Guest53249 | justin, the steps are combining downloaded files |
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| 19:13.03 | Guest53249 | http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html#wininstall |
| 19:13.04 | jhutchins | stew: I suppose that makes sense, at some point during a build a binary is what exists, just take the process from there. |
| 19:13.20 | jordanm | stew: dpkg-deb.. same package |
| 19:13.23 | stew | yeah |
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| 19:13.30 | justin | Guest53249: that says nothing about debian |
| 19:13.36 | joe6 | how can I get xmodmap commands and xkbset commands run by gdm/xmonad. Previously, I had them in the xmonad script and everything was fine. Now, with the XKBoptions not working, I put the ctrl:swapcaps stuff in gnome preferences and it overrides my xkbset and xmodmap settings. |
| 19:13.40 | Guest53249 | no... it doesn't |
| 19:13.54 | jordanm | Guest53249: that still requires you have the original CD |
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| 19:13.56 | Andy1978 | I have a problem with shared libs (libcap): http://paste.debian.net/106930/ |
| 19:14.00 | Guest53249 | but it works in debian |
| 19:14.09 | justin | Guest53249: those instructions say nothing about making a .deb |
| 19:14.12 | justin | Guest53249: you are making a .deb somehow |
| 19:14.21 | justin | Guest53249: HOW |
| 19:14.36 | Guest53249 | I'm following directions from a bunch of places |
| 19:14.43 | justin | is it a secret? |
| 19:14.48 | Guest53249 | lol, no |
| 19:14.51 | justin | no one here knows wtf you are doing |
| 19:15.01 | Guest53249 | sorry, I'll back up a bit |
| 19:15.25 | Guest53249 | first I combine the downloaded files into a folder called nwn |
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| 19:15.56 | jordanm | Andy1978: why do you have a .31 kernel in squeeze? been a year or so since you upgraded? |
| 19:15.59 | Guest53249 | then I make a folder for the package, and put the files in as such: |
| 19:16.22 | Guest53249 | foo/DEBIAN/control (a txt file set up via template) |
| 19:16.43 | Guest53249 | foo/usr/local/games/nwn (the copied nwn folder I made) |
| 19:16.57 | Andy1978 | jordanm: the last update & dist-upgrade is 1week ago |
| 19:17.16 | jordanm | Guest53249: debs typically are not created by manually creating a ar archive, and they should not install to /usr/local |
| 19:17.27 | justin | Guest53249: why are you bothering to make a package for this in the first place? |
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| 19:17.49 | Guest53249 | because it causes a lot of problems for people that want to install it on ubuntu |
| 19:18.02 | jaggz | beardy, no not really. tee will divide output, xargs can arrange stdin as arguments.. I wanted to diff the output of two programs without using temporary files |
| 19:18.08 | Guest53249 | bioware officially supports linux, but doesn't care much about it |
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| 19:18.24 | justin | Guest53249: how does making a .deb file that you most likely do not have permission to redistribute help anyone? |
| 19:18.48 | jaggz | I wish programs had multiple stdins |
| 19:18.57 | justin | jaggz ? |
| 19:19.07 | Guest53249 | don't worry about the EULA stuff, It's a long conversation that I still think I'd win |
| 19:19.28 | Guest53249 | but it helps people that buy the game use it on linux |
| 19:19.53 | Guest53249 | makes it a LOT easier and less error prone than the normal way |
| 19:20.12 | jordanm | justin: it is provided by gentoo, but the thing is just an installer/launcher the game contents still need to come from the disk |
| 19:20.24 | jaggz | justin, diff a b; prog1 > a; prog2 > b; diff a b; I don't like making the temp files |
| 19:20.35 | macrobat | jaggz: like programme <(input1 blah) <(input2 bloo) ? |
| 19:20.40 | justin | jaggz: 14:10 < justin> jaggz: diff <(fooa) <(foob) |
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| 19:21.27 | Guest53249 | so how would I create a .deb package from binary? |
| 19:21.32 | jaggz | oh I didn't see that.. reading up on it |
| 19:21.47 | jordanm | !tell Guest53249 about maint guide |
| 19:21.59 | jordanm | !tell Guest53249 about new maint guide |
| 19:22.11 | jaggz | that's it.. :) beautiful, thank you! |
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| 19:22.20 | jordanm | !tell Guest53249 about nmg |
| 19:22.27 | Guest53249 | jordanm, what are you doing? |
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| 19:22.33 | jordanm | sorry, took me three tries, its been a while |
| 19:22.54 | Guest53249 | what took you 3 tries? |
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| 19:23.05 | jordanm | Guest53249: linking you to the documentation you are looking for |
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| 19:24.03 | jhutchins | Guest53249: Are you doing this in Ubuntu? |
| 19:24.05 | babilen | Guest53249: Why do you want to package binaries? What is the purpose of that package? |
| 19:24.25 | Guest53249 | *sighs* |
| 19:24.27 | jordanm | babilen: scroll back please |
| 19:24.43 | babilen | read scrollback |
| 19:24.46 | babilen | sorry ;) |
| 19:24.50 | Guest53249 | :) |
| 19:25.20 | jhutchins | Guest53249: What release are you working with? |
| 19:25.29 | Guest53249 | Ubuntu 10.10 |
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| 19:26.11 | stew | Guest53249: you are in the wrong channel, please go to #ubuntu |
| 19:26.24 | jhutchins | Guest53249: It's not the same system. |
| 19:26.25 | Guest53249 | but they're still using .deb packages |
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| 19:26.42 | Guest53249 | wouldn't it be the same file format? |
| 19:26.42 | stew | Guest53249: that's great. they'll know what you are talking about over there then |
| 19:26.48 | jordanm | Guest53249: so do plenty of other non-debian systems. not supported here |
| 19:26.49 | stew | Guest53249: yes, should be |
| 19:26.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 19:26.50 | jhutchins | Guest53249: Do you know how many distributions use RPM's? Very few of them are at all compatible. |
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| 19:27.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | whats it called when you just want to forward emails to another account like gmail.. from my systems ? |
| 19:27.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | mail forwarder? |
| 19:27.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 19:27.22 | jordanm | Eryn_1983_FL: an alias or forwarder |
| 19:27.35 | Guest53249 | alright, heading to ubuntu, thanks for patience |
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| 19:28.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 19:28.35 | GaLaXY_ | Does anyone know if the old potato isos or jigdos would still be available somewhere? |
| 19:28.49 | GaLaXY_ | have only been able to find woody so far |
| 19:29.06 | stew | GaLaXY_: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 19:31.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | so this will let me forward my mail to my gmail account? |
| 19:31.22 | GaLaXY_ | stew: thx, nice to see the progression debian's made |
| 19:31.47 | jordanm | Eryn_1983_FL: what is "this"? |
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| 19:32.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | alias or a forwarder |
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| 19:33.44 | babilen | any ideas why nautilus automounts ext4 filesystems with root:root and ext3 as username:username (as I expect it to) ? |
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| 19:33.55 | babilen | Or rather, how to debug this. |
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| 19:34.14 | stew | babilen: what does it mean to mount a ext? filesystem with username:group? |
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| 19:34.31 | babilen | stew: yes, exactly |
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| 19:34.36 | Raydiation1 | hm is packages.debian.org working for sqeeze |
| 19:34.40 | stew | babilen: what makes you think this thing is happening? |
| 19:35.10 | stew | Raydiation1: sometimes |
| 19:35.19 | Raydiation1 | im looking for django |
| 19:35.37 | stew | babilen: ext3 and ext4 are not like ntfs or fat where you specify a username |
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| 19:36.00 | stew | babilen: what you are seeing is the ownership the filesystem itself, right? |
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| 19:36.28 | stew | Raydiation1: "apt-cache search django"? |
| 19:36.33 | naiv_ | is there a simple way to find my computer endianess ? |
| 19:36.36 | keith4 | stew: pdo is round-robin'd... perhaps some mirrors are out of date? |
| 19:36.46 | babilen | stew: I think I explained it pretty bad. I just tried to mount an external harddrive (one partition ext4) with nautilus and it mounts it as /media/label_of_the_fs with owner:group == root:root .. If I mount a ext3 filesystem, it is mounted with babilen:babilen |
| 19:37.06 | stew | babilen: i don't know what that means |
| 19:37.06 | jordanm | Eryn_1983_FL: yes |
| 19:37.24 | jordanm | Eryn_1983_FL: in a traditional mail setup, /etc/aliases or ~/.forward |
| 19:37.34 | Raydiation1 | stew: on packages.debian.org^^ |
| 19:37.35 | babilen | stew: Ok, I'll show you. -- One second ;) |
| 19:37.37 | bmoloney | I am trying to install Squeeze on a machine with a broadcom ethernet controller. It says I need the non-free firmware 'bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-5.0.0.j3.fw'. So I downloaded that file from the debian ftp and put it on the root of a FAT formatted USB stick (1GB). I can see from the LED that it is trying to read the USB but it keeps failing to load the firmware. Any suggestions? |
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| 19:38.06 | stew | keith4: Raydiation1: please check if this bug has been reported against the www.debian.org pseudo package yet |
| 19:38.09 | Raydiation1 | stew: ah ok works now |
| 19:38.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | jordanm: but i dont actually wont a full fledge mail server.. i just want to forward system emails to my gmail account so i can actually read them! |
| 19:38.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 19:38.36 | keith4 | stew: Raydiation1: i'm currently filing a bug |
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| 19:38.48 | stew | keith4: thanks :) |
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| 19:38.58 | caraconan | Hi guys. Which package does contains 'nc' command? |
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| 19:39.10 | stew | caraconan: netcat |
| 19:39.15 | caraconan | Thanks a lot |
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| 19:39.41 | ksk | bmoloney: you have no base system running? |
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| 19:39.56 | stew | caraconan: uh, no, it looks like there are multiple things providing netcat now |
| 19:40.09 | stew | caraconan: aptitude search '~Pnetcat' |
| 19:40.14 | caraconan | It worked for me, I just want to do some tests |
| 19:40.44 | bmoloney | ksk: not sure what you mean. The system I am trying install on has no OS on it currently. |
| 19:41.15 | jordanm | Eryn_1983_FL: well, you need a mailserver configured to send via the internet, not like a default setup which only does local delivery |
| 19:41.37 | jordanm | Eryn_1983_FL: just login to your server and type "mutt" :) |
| 19:41.39 | Iridos | hm, yes... I think there actually were some problems with netcat-openbsd... it's using different options or doesn't support the same things, IIRC |
| 19:42.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok... |
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| 19:44.03 | babilen | stew: http://paste.debian.net/106932/ |
| 19:44.50 | Iridos | did you try to chown? |
| 19:45.06 | bravvve | hi,i v debian installed on a virtual machine under client machine with windows xp,connected to a lan with windows server 2003 and active directories,i wan to add the debian machine to the domaine,and use shared file in the server,i downt know how to edit smb.conf |
| 19:45.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | he he |
| 19:45.10 | stew | babilen: is the mountpoint already existing in either case? |
| 19:45.18 | babilen | Iridos: Shouldn't be necessary. |
| 19:45.20 | babilen | stew: no |
| 19:45.23 | keith4 | stew: the only bug that seemed remotely relevant is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=548024 |
| 19:45.33 | keith4 | but it's very old |
| 19:45.48 | stew | keith4: yes, it would have to be in the 600000s :) |
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| 19:46.33 | stew | babilen: is this just the ownership from the filesystem being mounted? |
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| 19:47.28 | babilen | stew: What do you mean? |
| 19:48.01 | kibibyte | hi |
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| 19:48.39 | kibibyte | im trying to create passwordless ssh for my user, i generated keys copy it to remote host, but now it keeps askimg me for passphrase |
| 19:48.39 | AbuDhabi | Success! After many pains, Squeeze installed. |
| 19:48.40 | kibibyte | :/ |
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| 19:49.09 | justin | kibibyte: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 19:49.17 | AbuDhabi | I notice that kalarm seems to have a fsck-huge amount of dependancies. Was it replaced with something else? |
| 19:49.19 | justin | kibibyte: oh, passphrase? |
| 19:49.21 | justin | kibibyte: try running ssh-add ? |
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| 19:49.34 | stew | babilen: there are two places this ownership could be coming from, the fs being mounted, or the fs "receiving" the mount, right? |
| 19:49.42 | kibibyte | justin, yeah maybe i needed to leave passphrase empty? |
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| 19:49.48 | justin | kibibyte: don't leave the passphrase empty |
| 19:50.09 | tharkun | kibibyte: that is indeed a very very BAD idea |
| 19:50.18 | bmoloney | If I format my usb from linux with 'mkfs -t vfat' then that USB should be readable by the debian installer, right? |
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| 19:50.34 | jhutchins | AbuDhabi: Probably depends on many of the kde base libs. |
| 19:50.36 | kibibyte | justin, i did ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub bartosz@192.168.32.204 to remote host , but now when im tryng to login it asks me for passphrase |
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| 19:51.02 | jhutchins | AbuDhabi: Doesn't look unreasonable in lenny. |
| 19:51.14 | lvh | Hey! I just accidentally got a CentOS VPS, and it makes me cry. Is there a reasonable way to run Debian on it when the VPS isn't cooperating? A chroot, perhaps? |
| 19:51.14 | tharkun | kibibyte: that is the passphrase of your key. Nextime you log in on this particular session it will not ask you for it |
| 19:51.29 | AbuDhabi | Well, yeah, I don't remember it having such a huge to-download list in lenny. |
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| 19:51.35 | kibibyte | tharkun, but i dont want session it will be cron job |
| 19:51.40 | tharkun | lvh: ask your provider to change OS your life will be less misserable |
| 19:51.43 | kibibyte | which copy files with scp |
| 19:51.51 | AbuDhabi | Maybe in lenny, most of the dependancies were pre-installed? |
| 19:51.54 | lvh | tharkun: Yeah, okay, I'll file a support ticket. |
| 19:52.02 | jhutchins | AbuDhabi: Quite possibly/ |
| 19:52.03 | babilen | stew: yes, and what can I do about it. Or rather: How can I check the ownership of the fs being mounted? |
| 19:52.03 | tharkun | kibibyte: there are few techniques associated to that you will have to goolge it |
| 19:52.17 | jhutchins | AbuDhabi: Do you have a full KDE install? |
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| 19:52.28 | AbuDhabi | jhutchins: How do I tell? |
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| 19:52.45 | jhutchins | AbuDhabi: Um, well, first off, did you install kde? |
| 19:53.11 | AbuDhabi | This is a fresh Squeeze installation. I just started installing stuff. |
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| 19:53.25 | Raydiation1 | do i need squeeze/volatile |
| 19:53.32 | tharkun | babilen: nasty hack would be to use ls and look for the 3rd and 4th colums. Beware it is not that easy to port to other unixes |
| 19:53.33 | jhutchins | AbuDhabi: So it has gnome or what, no desktop yet? |
| 19:53.41 | AbuDhabi | Oh, it has gnome. |
| 19:53.48 | AbuDhabi | That's the default, right? |
| 19:54.15 | kibibyte | tharkun, and btw it doesnt work with session either |
| 19:54.17 | Iridos | huh? there's nothing inherently wrong with leaving the ssh passphrase empty... I mean of course you create equivalent logins that way... i.e. if broken into one the other one is automatically compromised... but that is just the security<->comfort decision you have to make? |
| 19:54.29 | babilen | tharkun: Very funny. But really: How to check the ownership of the filesystem? |
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| 19:55.20 | pfrog | is there a nice way to share downloaded packages among a local network? |
| 19:55.29 | pfrog | is nfs typically the way people do it? |
| 19:55.33 | justin | pfrog: I use approx |
| 19:55.46 | tharkun | kibibyte: it does since i make backups the way i am telling you. Just do some googling |
| 19:56.06 | jhutchins | AbuDhabi: Well, yes, mostly the default, that's an "it depends" thing. Perhaps you already had some of KDE installed on lenny when you installed kalarm. |
| 19:56.07 | justin | there is also debtorrent, but i dunno how popular that is |
| 19:56.23 | pfrog | nice |
| 19:56.26 | AbuDhabi | Maybe. |
| 19:56.26 | pfrog | approx looks like what I want |
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| 19:56.32 | stew | babilen: i'd mount it somewhere else and compare the ownership before and after |
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| 19:56.51 | justin | pfrog: yeah, approx takes literally 5 minutes to set up |
| 19:56.56 | jhutchins | babilen: The FS itself doesn't have an owner. |
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| 19:57.05 | babilen | stew: I don't quite follow you and nautilus should mount it as username:username and not root:root. I have no problem to mount it manually, setting the permissions and ownership. But I'd ruther just plug it in and have some kind automount mechanism going own. |
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| 19:57.20 | babilen | jhutchins: Yes, that is my understanding as well. |
| 19:57.31 | jhutchins | babilen: Individual files are marked with a numeric UID/GID, which may be different users on different systems. |
| 19:57.40 | babilen | jhutchins: sure |
| 19:58.15 | stew | babilen: "mount it as username:username" doesn't make sense as there is no such concept with ext. you just get the ownership from the filesystem itself |
| 19:58.43 | tharkun | babilen: ok i'm late everyhting i know about fs has allready been stated :D |
| 19:58.47 | babilen | Please: I see different behaviour from *nautilus* (which is the automounter behind the scenes) that depends on the type of the filesystem. If the fs is ext4 it is mounted root:root and if it es ext3 it is mounted babilen:babilen |
| 19:58.57 | kibibyte | tharkun, maybe host need to be a name like MY_HOST not ip numbers? |
| 19:59.24 | tharkun | kibibyte: it is dependent on how you set up your keyring not on the ip scp is using |
| 19:59.29 | babilen | stew: Ok, to spell it out. nautilus is creating /media/label_of_the_filesystem with different owner:group |
| 19:59.31 | stew | babilen: do this "mkdir /mnt/foo ; chown root:root /mnt/foo ; mount whatever /mnt/foo" and see if after the mount, the folder no longer appears as root:root |
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| 19:59.55 | tharkun | kibibyte: it might as well be a hundred sites that it will not matter |
| 19:59.57 | kibibyte | tharkun, im follwoing http://notetodogself.blogspot.com/2007/07/passwordless-sshscp-setup.html but it asks me for passphrase |
| 19:59.59 | babilen | stew: ok |
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| 20:00.14 | kibibyte | debug1: Trying private key: /home/bartosz/.ssh/identity |
| 20:00.14 | kibibyte | debug1: Offering public key: /home/bartosz/.ssh/id_rsa |
| 20:00.15 | kibibyte | debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 277 |
| 20:00.15 | kibibyte | debug1: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed |
| 20:00.15 | kibibyte | debug1: read PEM private key done: type <unknown> |
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| 20:00.31 | vlt | Hello. Can anyone recommend an easily to configure tool that receives mail via smtp and forwards everything to a remote relay using STMP-Auth? |
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| 20:00.57 | tharkun | vlt: research a little on your favourite mta it should be a piece of cake |
| 20:01.01 | stew | babilen: OR after it is mounted. chown, umount, remount, and see if your chown persists |
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| 20:01.35 | vlt | tharkun: I'm still looking for that MTA ;-) |
| 20:01.41 | kibibyte | tharkun, please look at this http://paste.debian.net/106936/ |
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| 20:01.49 | tharkun | vlg |
| 20:02.25 | tharkun | vlt: take a look at postfix and the password maps. My prefered choice |
| 20:02.26 | babilen | stew: (even) If the second approach would help. I would run into this problem as soon as I try to mount it as a different user |
| 20:02.36 | stew | babilen: yes, of course |
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| 20:02.40 | tharkun | kibibyte: it will have to wait. I have to go now |
| 20:02.42 | vlt | tharkun: Thank you. |
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| 20:02.57 | kibibyte | tharkun, no :( |
| 20:03.07 | stew | babilen: if you want files readable by anyone, chmod 666... |
| 20:03.08 | jhutchins | vlt: The configuration will take some work no matter what you choose. Doing this without becoming a spam relay can be tricky. |
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| 20:03.32 | stew | babilen: err 644, whatever, but this is just unix filsystem permissions |
| 20:03.53 | babilen | stew: that is not how nautilus should handle removable media (it should just allow users in the plugdev group to mount those devices rw and with ownership of the dynamically created mountpoint of username:usergroup) |
| 20:04.09 | stew | babilen: then you want a different filesystem type other than ext3 / ext4 |
| 20:04.18 | jhutchins | kibibyte: Read your directions again, more carefully. |
| 20:04.26 | stew | babilen: its not feasible to expect nautilus to chown the entire drive for you |
| 20:04.27 | babilen | stew: why? |
| 20:04.36 | jhutchins | kibibyte: When ssh-keygen asks for a password just hit enter. |
| 20:05.03 | kibibyte | jhutchins, but then i will leave my passphrase empty! |
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| 20:05.05 | babilen | stew: I don't want it to chown the entire drive for me. that would be ridiculous |
| 20:05.10 | jhutchins | babilen: Definitely looks like a bug. |
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| 20:05.24 | stew | then i'll not bother answering the "why" question |
| 20:05.40 | stew | its certainly not a bug |
| 20:05.46 | OpenTokix | The question is never why, it's always how. |
| 20:06.07 | kibibyte | jhutchins, so my passphrase must be empty ? |
| 20:06.18 | jhutchins | For it to work the way those instructions show, yes. |
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| 20:06.34 | kibibyte | hm |
| 20:06.48 | jhutchins | kibibyte: The passphrase for the ssh key pair must be empty. |
| 20:06.55 | babilen | stew: Why is it not a bug? Shouldn't nautilus create the mountpoint to which it mounts removable media as username:usergroup so the user is allowed to write to the removable media? (regardless of the underlying filesystem) |
| 20:07.04 | kibibyte | jhutchins, but is it secure ? |
| 20:07.25 | AbuDhabi | What was the list of packages needed for building stuff? I remember build-essential, but I think there was something else too. |
| 20:07.28 | jhutchins | kibibyte: Nothing is perfect, it is how many sites do ssh. |
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| 20:07.43 | belak | Are there debian testing netinstall cds? |
| 20:07.45 | kibibyte | ok thx jhutchins |
| 20:07.47 | kannan1222 | hey y do i get this error |
| 20:07.48 | kannan1222 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.49 | kannan1222 | -su: mail: command not found |
| 20:07.52 | kannan1222 | i am root |
| 20:07.53 | stew | babilen: does the ownership of the mountpoint matter if its just going to be replaced by what you are mounting on top of it? |
| 20:08.40 | jhutchins | !tell kibibyte about ssh without password |
| 20:08.55 | miasma | kannan1222: you probably haven't installed that program |
| 20:08.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah ownership of the root dir on the media would overwrite the mount point ownership |
| 20:09.07 | jhutchins | kannan1222: Did you install a mail program? |
| 20:09.12 | babilen | stew: The mountpoint is non-existent. You insert a drive, a mountpoint is created based on the label/name of the filesystem. ownership of that mountpoint in /media is then changed to user:user and the filesystem is mounted |
| 20:09.18 | kannan1222 | i have qmail installed |
| 20:09.32 | nkuttler | AbuDhabi: depends on what you're trying to build. apt-get build-dep foo |
| 20:10.04 | stew | babilen: and then after the filesystem is mounted, is ownership of the mountpoint of the mountpoint still relavant? or is it replaced with the ownership from / of the mounted drive? |
| 20:10.10 | stew | s/drive/filesystem/ |
| 20:10.17 | AbuDhabi | nkuttler: Trying to build the proprietary drivers for the Dell wireless hardware for my Inspiron laptop. |
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| 20:10.37 | AbuDhabi | Last I checked open source drivers were unavailable. |
| 20:11.28 | stew | babilen: the answer is that it is not relavant. nautilus (or whatever is actually doing the mounting) is creating the mountpoints as root:root probably, but this doesn't matter since as soon as you mout on top, those ownerships are replaced by the thing you just mounted |
| 20:11.31 | babilen | stew: what is the ownership of the mounted filesystem? and it should be user:user *after* it is mounted |
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| 20:11.35 | twinkie_addict | i have a insperon netboook and everythink works fine |
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| 20:11.55 | stew | babilen: then after it is mounted, chown it. and it will have the same ownership the next time it is mounted |
| 20:11.57 | Arrowmaster | babilen: what is the filesystem type? |
| 20:12.02 | stew | Arrowmaster: ext3 and ext4 |
| 20:12.03 | babilen | Arrowmaster: ext4 |
| 20:12.18 | stew | but the filesystem isn't relavant here |
| 20:12.22 | babilen | Arrowmaster: It shows the expected behaviour with ext3 |
| 20:12.36 | stew | babilen: it shows the same exact behavior with ext3 |
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| 20:13.05 | babilen | stew: http://paste.debian.net/106932/ (one thing is ext4 the other ext3) |
| 20:13.40 | stew | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/106940/ |
| 20:13.49 | Arrowmaster | the fact that the filesystem handles ownership and permissions is the only relavant part |
| 20:13.56 | stew | babilen: yes, the two different filesystems have different owners for / |
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| 20:15.07 | babilen | stew: why is the owner of the ext3 babilen then? It is a friends drive and I just borrowed it for debugging purposes. |
| 20:15.25 | stew | babilen: because both you and your friend are uid-1000 |
| 20:15.30 | stew | uid=1000 |
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| 20:15.56 | jhutchins | <facepalm> |
| 20:16.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah ext only stores uid and gid, not the actual names |
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| 20:16.27 | niftylettuce | javac for Debian?? |
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| 20:16.37 | stew | niftylettuce: in the openjdk-6-jdk package |
| 20:16.44 | abrotman | we have many? |
| 20:16.48 | babilen | yes, sure ... |
| 20:16.55 | niftylettuce | i have gij right now, it came with Squeeze |
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| 20:17.06 | niftylettuce | you recommend to remove and install openjdk-6-jdk ? |
| 20:17.23 | stew | niftylettuce: i recommend you install openjdk-6-jdk, whether or not you remove gij sholdn't matter |
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| 20:18.01 | niftylettuce | stew: yes that was my initial thought, I heard of gcj but am most comfortable with openjdk |
| 20:18.03 | niftylettuce | stew: ty sir |
| 20:18.04 | pfrog | can I just dd the iso to a usb disk? |
| 20:18.11 | manhunter | apt-cache policy packagename , is there any other alternative to this command ? |
| 20:18.24 | kong_ | hi guys, is there a roadmap to see when kde 4.6 and xfce4.8 enter sid repos?? |
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| 20:18.28 | manhunter | apt-cache policy packagename , is there any other alternative to this command with aptitude ? |
| 20:18.33 | stew | pfrog: if it is a squeeze iso, yes |
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| 20:18.43 | L-Strife89 | Hello, all. |
| 20:19.01 | pfrog | cool, yeah it is |
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| 20:19.16 | manhunter | apt-cache policy packagename , is there any other alternative to this command with aptitude ? |
| 20:19.22 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 20:19.32 | stew | manhunter: there is no reason to repeat your question so frequently |
| 20:19.45 | babilen | But seriously: That would mean that the drive could only be mounted on hosts where uid/gid of the filesystem == uid/gid of the user at the system. Hence automounting USB sticks with ext* would be broken for almost every single multi-user system. |
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| 20:20.16 | L-Strife89 | I installed Squeeze on an old iBook G3 using the LXDE+XFCE CD. It seems to be set up right, but X goes haywire when it tries to start. |
| 20:20.17 | Arrowmaster | babilen: ext on portable media is very problematic because of that |
| 20:20.22 | greycat | In <lenny->squeeze> it says "Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed". How does one know whether it's needed? |
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| 20:20.24 | L-Strife89 | Any ideas on what to do? |
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| 20:21.18 | justin | greycat: maybe add "if you don't know whether you need it or not, isntall it anyway?" :) |
| 20:21.24 | greycat | I guess. |
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| 20:21.44 | tef_ | greycat: or don't and find out |
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| 20:22.03 | stew | greycat: i belive the linux-image posting warns you |
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| 20:22.24 | greycat | tef_: problem is, if the system boots the new kernel/udev and the network interface doesn't work, I'm totally hosed. |
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| 20:22.28 | stew | greycat: yes, it attemts to |
| 20:22.38 | justin | greycat: yes, that is the most annoying thing about firmware |
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| 20:22.51 | greycat | stew: what does "the posting" mean? When the new kernel boots, or when it was installed |
| 20:22.52 | justin | they seems to be for network interfaces and disk controllers more than anything else |
| 20:22.54 | greycat | ? |
| 20:23.02 | stew | greycat: sorry, postinst |
| 20:23.06 | greycat | ah |
| 20:23.26 | ibrahim | hello everyone. |
| 20:23.26 | ibrahim | babilen: around? :) |
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| 20:23.36 | babilen | ibrahim: sure |
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| 20:23.54 | stew | greycat: /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64.postinst looks through /proc/modules, runs modinfo -F firmware '$module_path" and tries to find the firmware in /lib/firmware, and if not found, warns you |
| 20:24.04 | greycat | GAH.... stupid grub prompt went by too damned fast. Now I have to wait through a windows boot. |
| 20:24.14 | babilen | Arrowmaster: So it seems .... |
| 20:24.29 | greycat | Or maybe not. It appears to have blown up. Yay...? |
| 20:24.33 | justin | greycat: why one would have a windows partition in the first place... :) |
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| 20:24.47 | greycat | Because I am at work. |
| 20:24.52 | tef_ | ibrahim: did it go well? |
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| 20:25.00 | justin | fun :) |
| 20:25.17 | ibrahim | babilen: hello. i think, i succesfully upgraded to squeeze. i got 2 firmware errors but it's ok i guess. new debian looks great. |
| 20:25.28 | ibrahim | hello tef_ , yes it's quite well now. |
| 20:25.54 | ibrahim | i installed also GRUB 2, and it's sure better looking and functionality. |
| 20:26.01 | greycat | (Huh, why does it want to remove 'timeout'?) |
| 20:26.32 | Arrowmaster | i always get firmware errors about missing realtek firmware but they are for a different revision of the card and i dont need them at all |
| 20:26.33 | babilen | ibrahim: Just install the corresponding firmware-??? packages |
| 20:27.07 | L-Strife89 | I installed Squeeze on an old iBook G3 using the LXDE+XFCE CD. It seems to be set up right, but X goes haywire when it tries to start. Any suggestions on what to try to get it working? (I can boot into CLI as root with single.) |
| 20:27.12 | ibrahim | my question is, i upgraded lenny to squeeze, my linux 2.6.26 kernel still remains there, yes new squeeze uses linux 2.6.32 |
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| 20:27.30 | justin | ibrahim: problem? |
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| 20:27.35 | ibrahim | i don't remember the names babilen, but there was 2 firmware errors when the installation finished. |
| 20:27.38 | OpenTokix | ibrahim: it doesent remove kernels unless told to do so |
| 20:27.57 | ibrahim | babilen: do i need to remove kernel linux 2.6.26? |
| 20:28.12 | ibrahim | what if i remove and what if i don't? |
| 20:28.21 | babilen | ibrahim: You could remove it, yes |
| 20:28.25 | stew | you don't *need* t to. but its not useful now that you have an upgraded udev that needs the newer kernel |
| 20:28.30 | nkuttler | it's always nice to have a backup kernel though |
| 20:28.40 | stew | its no longer working so its not a backup |
| 20:28.45 | ibrahim | yes stew. |
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| 20:29.08 | ibrahim | so do you have "notes" about how to remove the old kernel, babilen? :D |
| 20:29.17 | babilen | no |
| 20:29.25 | stew | ibrahim: aptitude remove packagename |
| 20:29.27 | ibrahim | i would like to read in order to learn something new.(!) |
| 20:29.28 | ibrahim | ;P |
| 20:29.30 | tef_ | ibrahim: find it in aptitude and press - g g |
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| 20:30.13 | ibrahim | in aptitude tef_ ? |
| 20:30.30 | tef_ | or use apt-get, whatever you prefer |
| 20:30.36 | cyclops__ | hi all, i'm having some trouble after an upgrade to squeeze. I'm running my custom compiled kernel and it seems i don't have a /dev/sda anymore, yet /dev/sda1 is my root fs?! |
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| 20:31.19 | ibrahim | be more clear tef_, reall i don't know much about linux and not getting you at the moment. :) |
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| 20:32.00 | stew | ibrahim: run "aptitude remove packagename" where packagename is something like "linux-image-2.6.26-2-686" the 2.6.23-2-686 part will match the directory name that appears in /lib/modules |
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| 20:32.18 | stew | ibrahim: or you could find the package name with "aptitude search '~i~nlinux-image' |
| 20:32.35 | ibrahim | ok stew, a sec. |
| 20:32.53 | justin | or aptitude remove linux-image-<tab> |
| 20:32.58 | justin | for properly configured shells :) |
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| 20:33.05 | tef_ | ibrahim: just start aptitude and then search it in there, that way you dont have to remember stuff |
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| 20:33.24 | AbuDhabi | Hmmm. There's no Squeeze package for netbeans? |
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| 20:34.18 | stew | AbuDhabi: correct. looks like it was removed in 2009 |
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| 20:34.26 | ibrahim | stew: there might be errors with your command? it doesn't work, i guess. |
| 20:34.35 | stew | AbuDhabi: because of bug #506294 |
| 20:34.38 | ibrahim | tef_: what's aptitude? |
| 20:34.42 | abrotman | AbuDhabi: IIRC, it was pretty buggy, and pretty unmaintained |
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| 20:35.04 | stew | ibrahim: no, there are not errors in my command |
| 20:35.39 | AbuDhabi | abrotman: Well, I still need that for my thesis. :P Gotta fetch it from lenny or something. |
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| 20:35.44 | ibrahim | stew: it doesn't give me any outputs. |
| 20:35.49 | abrotman | AbuDhabi: i think they recommend upstream at this point |
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| 20:36.08 | tef_ | ibrahim: in the terminal just type "aptitude". |
| 20:36.31 | AbuDhabi | abrotman: Upstream? |
| 20:36.43 | abrotman | you kknow .. the people that make netbeans? |
| 20:36.46 | stew | AbuDhabi: whereever debian gets it from |
| 20:36.54 | AbuDhabi | Oh, yeah. |
| 20:36.54 | abrotman | netbeans.org |
| 20:36.54 | ibrahim | ok tef_ I'm on there now. |
| 20:36.54 | greycat | Hmm, if menu.lst says "timeout 5" then why did the GRUB menu not wait 5 seconds? |
| 20:36.54 | ibrahim | so? |
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| 20:37.04 | tef_ | now type "?" |
| 20:37.21 | tef_ | and learn about it |
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| 20:37.51 | ibrahim | aptitude help page, ok. |
| 20:37.51 | ibrahim | next? |
| 20:38.04 | tef_ | ibrahim: there you can see all the things you can do. now "q" to leave the help screen |
| 20:38.06 | stew | ibrahim: you must have typed my command incorrectly |
| 20:38.28 | tef_ | ibrahim: now "/". that opens a search dialog |
| 20:38.28 | Iridos | L-Strife89, not too sure what applies to ppc, there's also #debianppc here and on oftc - but in general, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log what hardware xorg is trying to use and compare with your current hardware, look up if your graphics hardware is supported and by what module |
| 20:38.29 | jelly-home | greycat: because an EVIL script replaced your boot manager with grub2! |
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| 20:38.45 | ibrahim | go on tef_. |
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| 20:38.50 | greycat | I don't think so... not yet. |
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| 20:39.04 | ibrahim | stew: should i try as super user? maybe. |
| 20:39.07 | greycat | I'm still only partway through the lenny->squeeze. |
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| 20:39.38 | ibrahim | what to search for, tef_ ? |
| 20:39.45 | tef_ | ibrahim: the list in the background contains all your packages. actually, i think you can use your mouse and click on stuf. but type "linux-image" into the dialog and press enter |
| 20:39.53 | justin | greycat: do you need 'prompt' also? |
| 20:40.06 | babilen | ibrahim: yes, do it as root |
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| 20:40.50 | ibrahim | tef_: there it shows me all the 2.6.32 linux versions. |
| 20:40.53 | Fernandos | hi |
| 20:40.59 | ibrahim | there is no linux image with 2.6.26 |
| 20:41.02 | tef_ | ibrahim: now it should highlight one of the kernels. hit "n" until you find the one you want to remove |
| 20:41.05 | cyclops__ | Guys, i've had my own kernel compile. Now i've upgrade to squeeze and my /dev/sda isn't there anymore. What am i missing? |
| 20:41.16 | greycat | 2.6.26 is lenny, 2.6.32 is squeeze |
| 20:41.28 | stew | cyclops__: is hal installed? |
| 20:41.38 | kannan1222 | hey i see that my computer is listening on the ftp port |
| 20:41.43 | Fernandos | I somehow don't have a2enmod on my rootserver any idea how I can get it? |
| 20:41.47 | greycat | justin: there is no occurrence of "prompt" in the file currently, and "man menu.lst" says No manual entry for menu.lst |
| 20:41.56 | kannan1222 | how do i find out what ftp program is installed |
| 20:42.04 | greycat | kannan1222: dpkg -l | grep ftp |
| 20:42.05 | cyclops__ | stew, euh, No. No package by that name... |
| 20:42.16 | Fernandos | apt-cache search a2enmod gives no result |
| 20:42.19 | greycat | kannan1222: and hope that all the FTP programs have the word "ftp" in their name or desc... |
| 20:42.22 | ibrahim | but tef_ there is no linux image there with 2.6.26 |
| 20:42.30 | kannan1222 | lol |
| 20:42.33 | L-Strife89 | Iridos: Thanks, let's see here ... |
| 20:42.35 | ibrahim | all the images is 2.6.32 |
| 20:42.45 | tef_ | ibrahim: even if you hit "n" a couple of times? then it's probably not there |
| 20:42.50 | stew | cyclops__: see if there is a directory in /sys/class/block which looks like it might be your missing /dev/sda |
| 20:42.57 | AbuDhabi | Overall, my experience with Squeeze is positive. The monitor management is greatly improved, as is mounting non-system disks. And the default network manager works with the prorietary drivers this time. |
| 20:43.00 | frikinz | Fernandos: you can use apt-file , your file is in apache2.2-common |
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| 20:43.16 | Fernandos | frikinz: thanks that's nice of you :) |
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| 20:44.35 | ibrahim | or maybe i couldn't find it tef_ |
| 20:44.41 | cyclops__ | stew: No /sys/class/blcok. There are some /sys/class/scsi_* directories. The weird thing to me is. My Root is /dev/sda1 which also shows in the mount output... |
| 20:44.43 | ibrahim | tef_: there is no other way? |
| 20:45.13 | stew | cyclops__: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 20:45.22 | ibrahim | stew: http://paste.debian.net/106944/ |
| 20:45.33 | keith4 | stew: fwiw, it's 612497 |
| 20:46.14 | stew | ibrahim: you left off the last single quote |
| 20:46.30 | stew | keith4: cool, thanks |
| 20:46.31 | ibrahim | ha? |
| 20:46.46 | tef_ | ibrahim: dpkg -l "linux-image*" | grep ^ii |
| 20:46.58 | stew | mine is better, but whatever |
| 20:47.03 | cyclops__ | stew: 2.6.36.2 - but. My custom kernel also was 2.6.36.2 which i created with make-dpkg. Not sure which kernel i'm booted in. I only have my custom .deb kernel installed tough... |
| 20:47.11 | tef_ | ibrahim: leave aptitude first by hitting "q" |
| 20:47.21 | babilen | ibrahim: aptitude search '~i~nlinux-image' (you missed the last ') |
| 20:47.28 | greycat | cyclops__: if it says 2.6.36.2 then it's clearly the custom kernel |
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| 20:47.44 | stew | i'm suprised it wouldn't have /sys/class/block then |
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| 20:48.07 | ibrahim | ok. |
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| 20:48.14 | ibrahim | babilen and stew then: http://paste.debian.net/106945/ |
| 20:48.36 | cyclops__ | greycat, stew: Ok. So should i install the debian squeeze kernel? happy to use that kernel because i was doing my own for rt61pci which has firmware and ext4 |
| 20:48.37 | ibrahim | tef_: a sec, stew's command worked now. |
| 20:48.38 | stew | ibrahim: aptitude remove linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 |
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| 20:49.01 | babilen | ibrahim: (as root!) |
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| 20:49.16 | tef_ | ibrahim: ok, you didnt find it |
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| 20:49.39 | Strife89 | Model M6497 .... |
| 20:49.56 | tef_ | ibrahim: its the same. the old kernel is still installed, but you did something wrong in aptitude i suppose |
| 20:50.28 | ibrahim | stew: http://paste.debian.net/106946/ |
| 20:50.52 | ibrahim | tef_: most probably my mistake, sorry. I'm learning. :) |
| 20:50.57 | stew | ibrahim: worked |
| 20:51.16 | ibrahim | babilen: i am on root. |
| 20:51.28 | ibrahim | stew: is that all? old kernel gone? |
| 20:51.34 | tef_ | ibrahim: you removed the kernel and grub got updated. you use grub, not lilo, right? |
| 20:51.43 | greycat | finds an example menu.lst on some German Ubuntu wiki and does not see the word 'prompt' on that page. |
| 20:51.47 | babilen | ibrahim: It wouldn't have worked otherwise. I just mentioned it, because you asked earlier if you have to be the super user |
| 20:52.00 | tef_ | ibrahim: now try to remove the other old kernel;) |
| 20:52.07 | Arrowmaster | greycat: you are using grub-legacy? |
| 20:52.07 | ibrahim | tef_: yes i use grub, but it upgraded to GRUB 2 with Squeeze update. |
| 20:52.12 | babilen | tef_: don't please |
| 20:52.22 | tef_ | babilen: hm? |
| 20:52.25 | justin | greycat: oh, maybe you don't need prompt? maybe I'm think of pxelinux |
| 20:52.43 | greycat | Arrowmaster: I'm in the middle of the lenny->squeeze update, and I was wondering if I could figure out why the grub menu did not respect my "timeout 5" option while I'm waiting for the rest of the downloads. |
| 20:52.53 | babilen | tef_: there is no other old kernel and he shouldn't attempt to remove it. (althoug aptitude will complain and fight) |
| 20:52.54 | greycat | Arrowmaster: I *believe* I still currently have grub-legacy active. |
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| 20:53.12 | babilen | tef_: attempt to remove the running one that is |
| 20:53.18 | ibrahim | so, do I need anything else? If not, I'll reboot to see if the old kernel is gone.. |
| 20:53.31 | greycat | Apparently there is no documentation for menu.lst. Anywhere. |
| 20:53.42 | tef_ | babilen: babilen ah, ups, that's a metapackage, sorry. ibrahim: never listen to me |
| 20:53.43 | babilen | ibrahim: It is gone, you don't have to reboot to check it. but if you want, have fun :) |
| 20:53.47 | stew | ibrahim: you can do my search again and see it no longer appear. that search "~i~nlinux-image" means Installed packages with 'linux-image' in the Name |
| 20:54.14 | tef_ | ibrahim: use stews command again, you'll see that the kernel is gone. no need for reboot |
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| 20:54.57 | greycat | Anyway, if the lenny->squeeze is going to replace grub-legacy with grub2 at some point, then I won't expend a great deal of energy on it. |
| 20:55.16 | ibrahim | stew: what is this one? linux-image-2.6-amd64 - Linux 2.6 for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) |
| 20:55.24 | ibrahim | I should remove it too? |
| 20:55.31 | greycat | ibrahim: pointer to a real package, most likely |
| 20:55.34 | ibrahim | what didn't it upgraded to 2.6.32? |
| 20:55.35 | tef_ | ibrahim: NO. |
| 20:56.04 | tef_ | ibrahim: that package will make sure that you upgrade to a newer kernel once there is one |
| 20:56.17 | cyclops__ | greycat, stew: Any hints on my situation? :) |
| 20:56.33 | ibrahim | ok then it stays. |
| 20:56.51 | tef_ | it installed the 32 automatically, hence the "A" in that line |
| 20:57.03 | ibrahim | by the way my laptop's touchpad is not working after upgrade tp Debian Squeeze.. |
| 20:57.24 | streuner_ | is synaptics installed? |
| 20:57.30 | ibrahim | A for Active? :P |
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| 20:57.45 | ibrahim | streuner_: me? |
| 20:57.49 | paradigm | ibrahim: 2.6.32's elanetech is causes problems. If you disable that and recompile it may fix it. Did for me, anyways. |
| 20:57.52 | streuner_ | sure, who else? |
| 20:58.29 | streuner_ | ii xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.2.2-2 Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server |
| 20:58.34 | babilen | ibrahim: automatic -- the linux-image-2.6-amd64 package always depends on the newest available kernel, which is then automatically installed (to fulfill the dependency) -- packages like this are called "metapackage" |
| 20:58.41 | ibrahim | streuner_: sure it works. |
| 20:59.04 | ibrahim | I got it babilen. |
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| 20:59.25 | sefz | hello |
| 20:59.29 | ibrahim | streuner_: I should search, what? |
| 20:59.36 | babilen | sefz: seufz! |
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| 20:59.44 | streuner_ | ibrahim: only if its installed |
| 21:00.15 | ibrahim | how to see? |
| 21:00.23 | streuner_ | ibrahim: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics |
| 21:00.25 | sefz | i'm having issues with pptpd in debian configuration... i can connect to the VPN but can't route to the internet.... |
| 21:01.07 | sefz | maybe i've put wrong values on pptpd.conf under localip/remoteip ? |
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| 21:01.29 | ibrahim | streuner_: http://paste.debian.net/106948/ |
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| 21:03.50 | ckarv | I cannot get screen to work, gives me the error "No more PTYs" followed by "Sorry could not find a PTY". I'm running a chrooted Debian 6.0. Any ideas on how to proceed? Thanks |
| 21:03.51 | ibrahim | streuner_: also xserver-xorg-input-synaptics's box is green on the synaptics search. |
| 21:04.23 | streuner_ | judd, versions xserver-xorg-input-synaptics |
| 21:04.25 | judd | Package xserver-xorg-input-synaptics on i386 -- lenny: 0.14.7~git20070706-3; sid: 1.2.2-2; squeeze: 1.2.2-2; wheezy: 1.2.2-2; experimental: 1.3.0-1 |
| 21:04.26 | frikinz | ckarv: you have bind mounted /dev ? |
| 21:05.37 | ibrahim | streuner_: should i reinstall it or? did you see my paste debian? |
| 21:05.48 | streuner_ | ibrahim: nah, its fine |
| 21:05.59 | jeward | So it looks like squeeze uses sunbird instead of iceowl? Or at least a newer version of iceowl. And it messes up my kiosks. Can I downgrade iceowl to the lenny version? |
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| 21:06.08 | streuner_ | ibrahim: it works here with sid... |
| 21:06.21 | JosefAssad | moin |
| 21:06.22 | streuner_ | ibrahim: i didnt have any problem with that driver |
| 21:06.48 | ibrahim | streuner_: i can move the mouse on touchpad but clicking on the touchpad isn't working, so i need to click on the button to make it work. |
| 21:06.57 | ckarv | frikinz: no, I don't think so |
| 21:06.59 | ibrahim | did you get my problem? |
| 21:07.07 | ibrahim | my touchpad works partly. |
| 21:07.20 | streuner_ | ibrahim: try /msg dpkg synaptics |
| 21:07.46 | streuner_ | and install gpointing-device-settings |
| 21:07.47 | ckarv | frikinz: What does "bind mounting dev" mean in practice? |
| 21:07.55 | frikinz | ckarv: mount /dev /chroot/dev -o bind |
| 21:08.06 | frikinz | ckarv: same for proc probably |
| 21:08.36 | ckarv | frikinz: mount /proc /chroot/proc -o bind ? |
| 21:08.48 | ckarv | do I do this in the chrooted environment or? |
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| 21:08.58 | frikinz | ckarv: outside |
| 21:09.06 | ckarv | okay, and nothing inside? |
| 21:09.07 | Mad7Scientst | How do I set apt to get packages from the Internet? |
| 21:09.24 | Mad7Scientst | I think that asking questions here is a lot easier than reading the documentation |
| 21:09.25 | JosefAssad | I have a bit of a problem with broken packages. I have not upgraded to squeeze yet and I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/8wtaPeyv My sources.list looks like this http://pastebin.com/Had1ZBaP Anyone got an idea what might be the matter? |
| 21:09.26 | streuner_ | Mad7Scientst: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 21:09.38 | Mad7Scientst | But then I will repay my debt by helping ohter people |
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| 21:09.49 | Mad7Scientst | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.20 | ibrahim | streuner_: do you think my problem is on "Multitouch" part on here: http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad ? |
| 21:10.21 | frikinz | ckarv: normally not |
| 21:10.24 | Mad7Scientst | hehehe |
| 21:10.54 | streuner_ | ibrahim: just a wild guess, the driver just works, i think, its a change of the default issue |
| 21:10.59 | ckarv | frikinz: alright, thank you |
| 21:11.09 | streuner_ | ibrahim: s/issue/configuration/ |
| 21:11.36 | ibrahim | is that a command for the terminal? |
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| 21:12.39 | frikinz | ckarv: does it work already? |
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| 21:13.04 | streuner_ | gpointing-device-settings let you alter the configuration for the touchpad in a GUI |
| 21:13.38 | greycat | Get:312 ... grub 0.97-64 |
| 21:13.44 | greycat | Guess that means I get grub2 ;-) |
| 21:13.53 | streuner_ | hm, not sid :-) |
| 21:14.12 | streuner_ | just updated grub today... |
| 21:14.17 | ibrahim | streuner_: what should i do? |
| 21:14.29 | streuner_ | pray and use the command above? |
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| 21:15.13 | streuner_ | root: dont IRC as root |
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| 21:15.27 | streuner_ | root: logout and login as user |
| 21:15.38 | streuner_ | hm |
| 21:15.50 | themill | ,info grub --release squeeze |
| 21:15.52 | judd | Package grub (admin, optional) in squeeze/i386: GRand Unified Bootloader (dummy package). Version: 0.97-64; Size: 115.0k; Installed: 168k; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/grub |
| 21:16.01 | themill | greycat: ^^ yep... |
| 21:17.21 | ckarv | frikinz: working on it, thanks so far :) |
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| 21:17.43 | ibrahim | streuner_: that was funny. LOL! |
| 21:17.44 | frikinz | ckarv: no problem |
| 21:18.18 | mrothhh | were do i download a xen based debian appliance |
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| 21:20.27 | jelly-home | needs to upload a couple trojaned appliances and vm templates |
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| 21:20.49 | debclair | greetings, I have an issue with the headphones jack. When I connect headphones the speakers do not mute. I already tried the option snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad, which worked when i had ubuntu 10.10. Any ideas? |
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| 21:21.28 | Siegfried | hi, i get "loading kernel............................" doesn't stop with ... since i upgraded to squeeze, any idea? |
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| 21:21.58 | streuner_ | Siegfried: what kind of kernel do you use? |
| 21:22.12 | Siegfried | custom but it was working fine |
| 21:22.17 | Siegfried | x86 |
| 21:22.18 | streuner_ | Did you read release notes? |
| 21:22.24 | Siegfried | erm :> |
| 21:22.29 | streuner_ | oh, custom, well :-) |
| 21:22.33 | JosefAssad | uh. OK, so if I don't upgrade to squeeze, would broken packages be expected? |
| 21:22.34 | mrothhh | x76 |
| 21:22.48 | mrothhh | were do i get xen based debian server applaince any idea |
| 21:24.51 | Mad7Scientst | my sources.list is set to get packages from the CD |
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| 21:25.01 | Mad7Scientst | and security updates from online |
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| 21:25.51 | Mad7Scientst | I thought that the line to use Internet downloading of packages would be in the file but commented out |
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| 21:28.55 | ckarv | frikinz: nope, still nothing. But I'm not sure if it's even sticking, because I can't just switch from the chroot to outside it, because that requires a reboot |
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| 21:33.54 | g00se | Having an issue with xdm: one user suddenly can't log in. It goes around in circles. Here's the log tail - any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu.com/564693/ |
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| 21:34.01 | greycat | Oooh, X started. |
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| 21:34.27 | ajikeshi | g00se, ubuntu? |
| 21:34.48 | g00se | ajikeshi: Other pastebins don't work for me. |
| 21:34.54 | ajikeshi | O_o |
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| 21:36.00 | Boter | hello. i have one interesteing question. |
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| 21:36.10 | Boter | i have 1 server router+apache server |
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| 21:36.22 | Boter | i want to forward one of the domains to another local IP |
| 21:36.27 | Boter | what is best way to do that? |
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| 21:36.40 | Boter | but just that one *.domain.com |
| 21:36.49 | jelly-home | g00se: inspect the user's ~/.xsession-errors (or pastebin that as well) |
| 21:37.08 | jelly-home | g00se: can they log in with a "failsafe" session? |
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| 21:37.36 | g00se | jelly-home: There's something a little weird looking in auth.log |
| 21:37.38 | luichii | hello |
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| 21:38.17 | ntat | Hi. I installed Squeeze only text mode. After I installeg Openbox and xserver-xorg. And if I type startx: don`t found command. |
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| 21:38.21 | Venemo | hi guys |
| 21:38.23 | Venemo | could someone please help me out with Debian packaging? |
| 21:38.30 | Mad7Scientst | deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 21:38.36 | stew | ntat: install the xorg package |
| 21:38.37 | Mad7Scientst | What do I replace the XX with? |
| 21:38.40 | luichii | is there any way to see what options used developers to compile the default debian 6.0 i386 kernel? |
| 21:38.45 | stew | Mad7Scientst: what country are you in? |
| 21:38.47 | greycat | Your country code. Try "us" if you don't know. |
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| 21:39.00 | g00se | http://paste.ubuntu.com/564697/ Almost as if the session terminatesimmediately? |
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| 21:39.04 | stew | luichii: are you running that kernel now? |
| 21:39.09 | Arrowmaster | you can also use cdn.debian.net |
| 21:39.12 | miasma | luichii: cat /proc/config.gz |
| 21:39.14 | Magicka | ubuntu FTW! |
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| 21:39.19 | luichii | stew: yes |
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| 21:39.33 | stew | luichii: then it is in /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 21:39.33 | Mad7Scientst | stew, the us |
| 21:39.36 | Magicka | UBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNTU! |
| 21:39.45 | Mad7Scientst | k thanks |
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| 21:39.48 | jelly-home | g00se: so, have you looked at that ~/.xsession-errors yet |
| 21:39.51 | stew | miasma: that wouldn't exist, (and it would be gzipped) |
| 21:40.01 | ntat | stew, I have xserver-xorg-core |
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| 21:40.06 | luichii | stew: but can i open the configuration with make menuconfig? |
| 21:40.19 | Magicka | raaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrr |
| 21:40.20 | ntat | and dependeties |
| 21:40.21 | stew | luichii: you could copy it to .config and make oldconfig |
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| 21:40.32 | stew | Magicka: please keep it on topic or keep quiet, thanks :) |
| 21:40.37 | RichiH | Magicka: no one cares about your trolling; please just stop :) |
| 21:40.49 | g00se | Here's xsess http://paste.ubuntu.com/564698/ |
| 21:41.13 | g00se | jelly-home: That tallies with auth.log |
| 21:41.32 | Venemo | so I would like to make a Debian package that I want to be usable on different versions of the OS so it has different dependencies according to the version of the OS. I would like to know how to do this in a control file for a debian package |
| 21:41.55 | greycat | Yucky default font in my rxvt. :( |
| 21:41.57 | sparc | Is there a way to roll back an install, if something fails in postinst? |
| 21:42.40 | ntat | why openbox don`t have dependecies to xserver? |
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| 21:42.52 | g00se | jelly-home: So what could that 'open: Permission denied' be all about? |
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| 21:43.21 | justin | ntat: you can run X applications over the network |
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| 21:43.44 | jelly-home | g00se: that's weird and unhelpful. Does the user have a custom ~/.Xsession or ~/.xinitrc? Does removing it temporarily help? |
| 21:43.52 | jelly-home | !xinitrc |
| 21:43.53 | dpkg | xinitrc is, like, just use ~/.xsession instead, ask me about <.xinitrc> for the reason. Also ask about <xsession>. |
| 21:44.05 | Arrowmaster | Venemo: about the closest thing i know of would be this http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/09/27/different-dependencies-between-debian-and-ubuntu-but-common-source-package/ |
| 21:44.15 | jelly-home | g00se: apparently ~/.xsession is correct spelling |
| 21:44.17 | luichii | stew: what i want to do is to load the config of the default kernel used in debian 6.0 i386 on make menuconfig to see what options they enabled and be able to disable the options i don't want |
| 21:44.18 | g00se | jelly-home: Nothing custom as such |
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| 21:44.40 | jelly-home | g00se: do any of those two exist? |
| 21:44.42 | ntat | stew, which one package I must install? I have installed xserver-xorg-core and his dependecies. |
| 21:44.42 | Venemo | Arrowmaster: thank you, I'll check it out |
| 21:44.46 | justin | luichii: almost everything is a module, disabling things will not accomplish much |
| 21:44.51 | g00se | Looking ... |
| 21:44.58 | stew | luichii: cd $kernelsourcedirectory ; cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./ ; make oldconfig ; make menuconfig |
| 21:45.35 | justin | stew: missed a .config in there |
| 21:45.36 | jelly-home | g00se: try moving them away temporarily |
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| 21:45.48 | krsna | how to make "man" use troff instead of groff? I have edited /etc/manpath.config but that did not help |
| 21:46.07 | stew | luichii: cd $kernelsourcedirectory ; cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config ; make oldconfig ; make menuconfig |
| 21:46.10 | stew | justin: thanks :) |
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| 21:46.49 | luichii | stew: ok i'm using the commands i will tell if it works |
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| 21:48.04 | greycat | eek, l33t console text |
| 21:48.16 | g00se | jelly-home: sudo find /home/duck -iname \*xinit\* found nothing nor did sudo find /home/duck -iname \*xsess\* (apart from .xsession-errors) |
| 21:48.24 | greycat | well, I guess that's not important as I'm just going to run startx after logging in |
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| 21:48.45 | justin | g00se: ls -al ~/.x* would have been a bit faster |
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| 21:50.25 | greycat | you shouldn't even need the -a option there |
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| 21:51.45 | luichii | stew: where is kernel 2.6.32-5-686 in kernel.org? |
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| 21:52.45 | sefz | idle for 20 minutes: starting autoaway (m1rk Xp) |
| 21:52.47 | Maikl27 | hi, howto install newest pidgin on debian 6? |
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| 21:53.25 | tului | Maik127: afaik install from source if you want the latest |
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| 21:53.41 | jelly-home | ,versions pidgin |
| 21:53.42 | judd | Package pidgin on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.7.3-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze1; wheezy: 2.7.3-1+squeeze1; sid: 2.7.9-2 |
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| 21:54.00 | grzegorz129 | hi all! :) |
| 21:54.02 | jelly-home | soon to come to your squeeze-backports repo? |
| 21:54.08 | Maikl27 | jelly-home: i tryed, GLib 2.12.0 or newer development headers installed |
| 21:54.25 | jelly-home | ,versions libglib2.0-0 |
| 21:54.27 | judd | Package libglib2.0-0 on i386 -- lenny-security: 2.16.6-1+lenny1; lenny: 2.16.6-3; lenny-backports: 2.22.4-1~bpo50+1; sid: 2.24.2-1; squeeze: 2.24.2-1; wheezy: 2.24.2-1; experimental: 2.27.91-1 |
| 21:54.30 | greycat | "No manual entry for grub.cfg" |
| 21:54.35 | grzegorz129 | I`d make a "ups" and do srv:/# rm * :D |
| 21:54.39 | jelly-home | Maikl27: squeeze has _much_ newer than 2.12. |
| 21:54.39 | greycat | It just doesn't ever get any better, does it.... |
| 21:54.40 | tului | Just install the dev headers |
| 21:54.44 | grzegorz129 | now I cant do ls or sth :) |
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| 21:54.58 | grzegorz129 | what I can do now? |
| 21:55.13 | Arrowmaster | grzegorz129: reinstall |
| 21:55.21 | grzegorz129 | I cant :) |
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| 21:55.28 | grzegorz129 | its a production server, vserver |
| 21:55.38 | Arrowmaster | restore from backup |
| 21:55.44 | greycat | grzegorz129: if you did "rm -r *" from / as root, reinstalling is your only real option. |
| 21:55.57 | grzegorz129 | greycat: I do rm * (without recur) |
| 21:55.58 | Raydiation | is there a debian packaging help channel? |
| 21:56.05 | greycat | grzegorz129: echo * |
| 21:56.13 | streuner_ | Raydiation: /msg dpkg mentors |
| 21:56.16 | grzegorz129 | Arrowmaster: I have no backup of clean install with myql - I have only data backup |
| 21:56.19 | Maikl27 | jelly-home: hmm, mmnt |
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| 21:56.38 | grzegorz129 | echo * return normal structure: bin boot dev etc home lib media mnt opt proc root sbin selinux srv sys tmp usr var |
| 21:56.47 | greycat | grzegorz129: then why doesn't ls work? |
| 21:56.53 | jelly-home | grzegorz129: theoretically, a mere "rm *" in / wouldn't have caused ls command to fail. Is your "rm" aliased to something else? |
| 21:56.56 | grzegorz129 | but if I now exit I cant reener |
| 21:56.57 | g00se | Discovers that someone other than root has ownership of /tmp and it's not writable for all. God knows how that happened... |
| 21:57.07 | greycat | grzegorz129: *something* else is broken |
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| 21:57.14 | grzegorz129 | jelly-home: I dont think so, its normla rm |
| 21:57.16 | matt8686 | Is there a possibility to check the version of installed package when program has no -v, -V or --version switch? |
| 21:57.30 | greycat | matt8686: dpkg -l | grep ... |
| 21:57.41 | grzegorz129 | I know, rm * is always bad but my syslog goes crazy after kernel update and generate 20Gb of errors in 10 minutes |
| 21:57.49 | Maikl27 | what is name of gtk+ 2.10.0 (or newer) package? |
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| 21:58.01 | greycat | Maikl27: gtk+ or glib? You said glib earlier. |
| 21:58.08 | streuner_ | libgtk? |
| 21:58.10 | matt8686 | greycat: thanks! |
| 21:58.13 | streuner_ | hm |
| 21:58.20 | greycat | should be libgtk2 something -dev |
| 21:58.27 | jelly-home | Maikl27: read /msg dpkg package rebuild |
| 21:58.29 | tului | greycat: I think he needs the -dev libs installed for gtk and glib |
| 21:58.30 | Maikl27 | greycat: yes, and now it want gtk..You must have GTK+ 2.10.0 or newer development headers installed to compile |
| 21:58.34 | greycat | I'd normally do "apt-cache search -- lib gtk2 -dev" |
| 21:58.41 | jelly-home | Maikl27: follow steps 1) and 2) |
| 21:58.46 | grzegorz129 | greycat: I know, when I`m trying to enter this vserver from antoher ssh session vserver utility says: # vs database-server enter |
| 21:58.49 | grzegorz129 | vlogin: execvp(): No such file or directory |
| 21:59.04 | Caplain | how well does the latest version of debian run on a socket7 amd-k6 500mhz cpu? |
| 21:59.06 | pfrog | I installed squeeze on a raided lvm |
| 21:59.09 | krphop | When installing a new debian package, where are is the package temporarily extracted to before installation? |
| 21:59.10 | pfrog | but it doesn't seem to boot now? |
| 21:59.11 | greycat | grzegorz129: I don't see what that has to do with ls. |
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| 21:59.18 | pfrog | is that not a valid install option? |
| 21:59.26 | claytonarvixe | How do you actively block all ports but the ones you allow with iptables? |
| 21:59.40 | grzegorz129 | greycat: I`m also confused of that - ls binary in /bin still exists |
| 21:59.46 | grzegorz129 | but I cant execute it |
| 21:59.49 | jelly-home | grzegorz129: you seem to have deleted your /lib/ld-linux.so.2. what does echo /lib/ld* say? |
| 22:00.25 | grzegorz129 | still on place: |
| 22:00.25 | grzegorz129 | sql:/# echo /lib/ld* |
| 22:00.26 | grzegorz129 | /lib/ld-2.7.so /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 |
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| 22:00.52 | jelly-home | grzegorz129: and yet, ls does not run. what does "which ls" say? |
| 22:01.00 | greycat | I'd try "/bin/ls" next. |
| 22:01.10 | greycat | maybe he just nuked his $PATH |
| 22:01.12 | grzegorz129 | bash: /usr/bin/which: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu |
| 22:01.32 | grzegorz129 | "Nie ma taiego pliku ani katalogu" mean in polish No such file or dir |
| 22:01.38 | greycat | yeah, figured... |
| 22:01.39 | streuner_ | dpkg, bad interpreter |
| 22:01.39 | dpkg | bad-interpreter is probably a wrong #! line in a script, or script is in crlf - which is the case, if 'od -b filename|grep 015' returns something; ask me about <crlf-unix> - or script is not executable (use chmod +x on it), or script is on a partition mounted with the noexec (mounting with "user" implies that) option. |
| 22:01.58 | greycat | grzegorz129: does /bin/ls work? |
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| 22:02.30 | grzegorz129 | greycat: unfortunaly not, if I try to execute it console says No such file or blah blah blah |
| 22:02.41 | greycat | Sounds like you removed your shared libraries or something very similar. |
| 22:02.47 | jelly-home | or /bin/* |
| 22:02.51 | greycat | Does "/sbin/ldconfig -v" work? |
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| 22:03.10 | grzegorz129 | hmm .. it works |
| 22:03.23 | greycat | Did that fix the other problems? |
| 22:03.28 | SPF | hmm, found out what was using so much space, both syslog, kern.log and message were about 500M in size |
| 22:03.44 | grzegorz129 | nope, still the same |
| 22:03.46 | SPF | *messages |
| 22:03.48 | jhutchins | Is there really any point in trying to save bits and pieces of this system? It needs a reinstall. If the disk can be mounted and read by another system he can save his database, just copy /var/lib/mysql/* -r |
| 22:03.56 | grzegorz129 | but output of ldconfig is similar to phisical server output |
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| 22:04.28 | greycat | So ldconfig gave *errors*? What errors? |
| 22:04.40 | jhutchins | You guys can play this game all night. |
| 22:04.45 | grzegorz129 | jhutchins: its not a big deal to restore dbs from daily backups but this is a chrott vservers so I can operate on any files from host |
| 22:04.54 | jelly-home | jhutchins: it's detective work. Try to figure out how _exactly_ it is broken, and do minimal changes to unbreak it |
| 22:04.58 | grzegorz129 | so, maybe I lost only few files |
| 22:05.15 | jelly-home | grzegorz129: do you have host access? |
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| 22:05.36 | grzegorz129 | yes, It`s my production server, db and http and mailserver is separated for security |
| 22:05.54 | greycat | grzegorz129: So ldconfig gave *errors*? What errors? |
| 22:06.05 | grzegorz129 | no errors, output is very similar to host |
| 22:06.12 | greycat | I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THAT MEANS |
| 22:06.17 | greycat | It wrote the word "host" on your screen? |
| 22:06.37 | jhutchins | Only actual files in _my_ / are links to vmlinuz and initrd. |
| 22:06.53 | greycat | jhutchins: he clearly did *something other* than what he thinks (or says) he did... |
| 22:07.07 | grzegorz129 | greycat: take it easy :) by 'host' I mean linux-vservers host server, by 'guest' I mean 'client' system installed on host |
| 22:07.17 | greycat | And he won't listen to us, and he won't tell us what he did... |
| 22:07.20 | grzegorz129 | so guest share kernel and other th. |
| 22:07.25 | debclair | hi there, my speakers dont mute when i connect headphones. Should i compile latest alsa? is there any work around besides changing the sound card model? |
| 22:07.58 | stew | debclair: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 22:07.59 | grzegorz129 | greycat: I`m reading and processing all your (and other guys) words :) |
| 22:08.06 | stew | debclair: and yes, its likely that a new alsa would fix this |
| 22:08.14 | jhutchins | debclair: Sometimes the system just doesn't know you've plugged in the headphones. |
| 22:08.43 | grzegorz129 | greycat: I only did rm * instead of cd /var/log and then rm * - thats all |
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| 22:09.07 | debclair | stew, 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 22:09.17 | stew | debclair: you are running lenny? |
| 22:09.37 | debclair | sterna, squeeze |
| 22:09.42 | greycat | grzegorz129: but the simple fact is that running "rm *" in / would *not* cause the symptoms you describe. |
| 22:09.44 | jhutchins | grzegorz129: Do you know what directory you were in? |
| 22:10.25 | grzegorz129 | jhutchins: / |
| 22:10.28 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 22:10.30 | debclair | jhutchins, any idea how i could solve that? or how can check if that's the case? |
| 22:10.30 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.37-trunk-686 (2.6.37-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); wheezy: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-30~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
| 22:10.34 | shirish | hi all, does anybody know a command to find out from where I installed a package, meaning did I install it from stable,testing,unstable or experimental, any ideas ? |
| 22:10.38 | stew | debclair: oh, right. what does "cat /proc/asound/version" return? |
| 22:10.46 | grzegorz129 | maybe I have reason - I removed links for 32b libs |
| 22:10.47 | jhutchins | grzegorz129: If that were true, that wasn't what caused the problem. |
| 22:10.48 | Maikl27 | after compiling pidgin it will be automatic moved to /usr/bin (so i will can start pidgin with command pidgin) or i must to move it manually? |
| 22:10.57 | greycat | OK, now this timeout is definitely *not* respecting what the files appear to say. The grub.cfg has "set timeout=5" which I believe came from /etc/default/grub which has "GRUB_TIMEOUT=5" in it. But the timeout I get when I actually *boot* is 2s, not 5s. |
| 22:11.10 | greycat | How do I get grub2 to *actually* set a timeout to 5 seconds |
| 22:11.11 | debclair | Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21. Latest alsta is 1.0.23 right? |
| 22:11.18 | debclair | stew, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21. Latest alsta is 1.0.23 right? |
| 22:11.25 | jhutchins | greycat: update-grub? |
| 22:11.28 | greycat | Did that. |
| 22:11.36 | grzegorz129 | jhutchins: Its not true, other vservers has in / 2 links which rm * removed (bcs link is file, right?) |
| 22:11.42 | stew | debclair: yeah, "/msg dpkg new alsa" for and easy upgrade |
| 22:11.51 | streuner_ | greycat: grub question? lol, they arent refelected much here... |
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| 22:12.02 | grzegorz129 | lib32 linked to /emul/ia32-linux/lib and lib64 linked to /lib |
| 22:12.06 | jhutchins | greycat: Sorry, squeeze system flew to Tucson yesterday. |
| 22:12.10 | epifanio | hi All, |
| 22:12.19 | debclair | stew, sorry, what's that command you just quoted? how does that work? |
| 22:12.28 | grzegorz129 | hmm but how to restore theese links when "ln" cant start? |
| 22:12.28 | stew | dpkg: rell debclair about new alsa |
| 22:12.28 | dpkg | stew: are you using Windows? |
| 22:12.31 | streuner_ | greycat: grub works or nobody are able to help.... |
| 22:12.33 | stew | dpkg: tell debclair about new alsa |
| 22:12.41 | greycat | Even 3s would be acceptable. 2s is just *way* too short, though, because I need Windows to be default, and I need more than 2s to react and hit down-arrow to prevent Windows booting. |
| 22:12.41 | jhutchins | greycat: Maybe it's misreading your clock. |
| 22:12.47 | stew | debclair: our friendly bot should have sent you instructions |
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| 22:13.09 | epifanio | i'm running debian sid 64 bit on a pc that has this video card : http://paste.debian.net/106957/ . i'm using the nvidea driver insttalled running the .run from the nvidea site. Do You know how can i enable the composite extension ? i tried to add this section iside my xorg.conf file : http://paste.debian.net/106959/ .. also metacity doesn't give me any "visual effect option" in the desktop... |
| 22:13.10 | epifanio | ...settings ... have you any hints on how can i solve this problem ? |
| 22:13.25 | greycat | grzegorz129: restore backup or reinstall. |
| 22:13.48 | debclair | stew, i got nothing from the bot, sorry n_n' maybe I should just google it right? Thanks a lot for your info. I really hope this works. |
| 22:13.51 | jhutchins | I guess I should think about upgrading this to squeeze. Kinda like kde3.5 on the old hardware though... |
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| 22:14.03 | jhutchins | debclair: Should be in a new window. |
| 22:14.04 | grzegorz129 | greycat: who has backup of clean lenny? common --- nobody |
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| 22:14.09 | stew | dpkg: new alsa |
| 22:14.09 | dpkg | To compile newer <ALSA> drivers for your running kernel (not applicable to Lenny/2.6.26): first download an alsa-source .deb from http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/alsa-source/download ; install it with dpkg -i ; then run "aptitude install module-assistant ; m-a a-i alsa" ; you will need to reload your ALSA drivers. FTBFS issues with Debian stock kernels on squeeze are resolved as of alsa-driver 1.0.21+dfsg-2.1. |
| 22:14.13 | stew | debclair: ^^ |
| 22:14.17 | debclair | jhujhiti, oh, my bad! sorry |
| 22:14.19 | greycat | Your failure to back up your own systems is not our fault. |
| 22:14.25 | xopher | nope, can't get it working frikinz. Is it possible to do in a linuxrc file? (fixing the No PTYs error for screen) |
| 22:14.28 | debclair | stew, thanks, ill read the bot info n_n' |
| 22:14.33 | grzegorz129 | greycat: the problem is downtime of 2 big sites :) |
| 22:14.53 | greycat | What, do you think we're *hoarding* some secret fix and refuse to tell you it? |
| 22:15.06 | greycat | You think that if you make yourself more important we'll give in and release the secret information that you needed? |
| 22:15.50 | grzegorz129 | btw is it a bug of rsyslogd in lenny - it generates milions of lines with error "imklog: Error return from sys_sycall: 1 - Operation not permitted" |
| 22:15.54 | jhutchins | grzegorz129: Nothing to be done about that, the error already occurred. |
| 22:16.05 | tarzeau | hahaha |
| 22:16.07 | greycat | OK, I'll battle grub2 timeout tomorrow... |
| 22:16.21 | tarzeau | !backups |
| 22:16.21 | dpkg | I don't need no steenkin backups. However, I'm sure at least two other mes in parallel dimensions do, so I'm probably good to go. Hopefully the other mes in the other dimensions aren't counting on me to keep backups. Those idiots. <SlayerXP> there are two types of people in this world, those who take my advice regarding RAID and backups, and those who cry when they lose their data. See <things to backup>, <qotd126>, <flw40>. |
| 22:16.30 | jhutchins | grzegorz129: The problem is with the admin using rm carelessly rather than using logrotate as he should have. |
| 22:16.32 | grzegorz129 | now I`m permited acces from guests to host /proc/kmsg but rsyslog should stop after few tries |
| 22:17.16 | grzegorz129 | jhutchins: I know, Its my mistake |
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| 22:17.41 | jhutchins | grzegorz129: Experience is proportional to data destroyed. |
| 22:18.09 | dotnick | :) |
| 22:18.15 | grzegorz129 | jhutchins: hah :) |
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| 22:19.21 | grzegorz129 | I have backups of all important data and ofc double check every rm -rf but as you noticed rm * in / SHOULD make any damage :) |
| 22:19.36 | grzegorz129 | SHOULD not* |
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| 22:19.55 | stew | grzegorz129: use zsh which warns about rm * |
| 22:20.25 | grzegorz129 | stew: from now I maybe start using zsh instead of bash :) |
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| 22:20.48 | grzegorz129 | but now - could I restore removed links from host or run 'ln' on guest? |
| 22:20.49 | stew | grzegorz129: note that rm can't know what command you typed, since your shell expanded * to a list of files, and you shouldn't expect "rm file1 file2 file2 etc" not to remove files |
| 22:20.57 | Venemo | what does a | mean in the dependency list of a Debian control file? |
| 22:21.06 | stew | Venemo: "or" |
| 22:21.14 | jhutchins | grzegorz129: chsh -s /bin/zsh |
| 22:21.41 | grzegorz129 | jhutchins: I cant execute it :) |
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| 22:21.50 | stew | grzegorz129: you know the sources and targets of all the links? |
| 22:21.52 | jhutchins | aptitude install zsh? |
| 22:22.28 | Venemo | stew: thanks |
| 22:22.32 | grzegorz129 | stew: ofc, Its only two links, lib32 to /emul/ia32-linux/lib and lib64 yo /lib |
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| 22:23.04 | stew | grzegorz129: so you are asking how to actually use ln? |
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| 22:23.34 | grzegorz129 | stew: heh the problem is how to execute ln - not how to use it :) using tools is easiest part now ;) |
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| 22:25.32 | neoice | anyone upgraded a lenny Xen dom0 here? |
| 22:25.54 | stew | grzegorz129: i'd try setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 22:26.03 | stew | grzegorz129: or execute it from the host if you can |
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| 22:28.47 | grzegorz129 | stew: uff ... it helps :) |
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| 22:29.21 | jhutchins | !etch sources list |
| 22:29.24 | grzegorz129 | good for me - linux symlinks points for paths, not for files ;] |
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| 22:29.59 | jhutchins | !etch sources.list |
| 22:30.00 | dpkg | from memory, etch sources.list is "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security etch/updates main contrib non-free". But realise that Etch has not had security support since February 2010 and that you should upgrade to a newer release. Ask me about <etch->lenny>. |
| 22:30.29 | jhutchins | 'scuse. |
| 22:30.37 | stew | objection: relevance |
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| 22:31.04 | g00se | Hmm, /tmp being owned by a normal user surely can't be right? |
| 22:31.12 | jhutchins | stew: Perfectly relevant - to a conversation on oftc. |
| 22:31.28 | grzegorz129 | I have another problem which polish community cant resolve, I cant upgrade libc6, it fails to configure bcs on vservers there is no comatibility-check init-script - /etc/init.d/glibc.sh |
| 22:31.28 | stew | ? |
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| 22:31.58 | grzegorz129 | g00se: doesnt matter, most application use /tmp so it can be owned by any user and has chmod 0777 |
| 22:32.15 | stew | g00se: no 1777 not 0777 |
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| 22:32.45 | grzegorz129 | stew: can you explain why 0777 for /tmp is wrong? |
| 22:32.55 | mostym | well, i've decided to go with a Adaptec RAID 5805 |
| 22:32.55 | stew | grzegorz129: because then users can remove other users files |
| 22:32.57 | mostym | with a BBU |
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| 22:33.20 | grzegorz129 | stew: you right |
| 22:33.30 | g00se | Just wonders why it's NOT root though |
| 22:33.49 | stew | g00se: root must have given it away at some point |
| 22:34.11 | debclair | stew, hi there, i downloaded the source package, but i got dependencies that couldn't be resolved by dpkg. How can I compile alsa from source downloading from alsa's site? |
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| 22:34.33 | macrobat | jhutchins, grzegorz129: path to zsh is /usr/bin/zsh . nice to have a working shell :D |
| 22:34.42 | streuner_ | debclair: and you are sure, it would solve your problems? |
| 22:35.11 | g00se | stew: I certainly don't remember that ;) I've just rebooted so that must be now an init thing |
| 22:36.01 | debclair | streuner_, no, but I already tried to solve it with all the ways I knew. Its time to get hands on the unknown, don't you think? |
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| 22:36.28 | streuner_ | debclair: there is always an alternative -> OSS4 ;-) |
| 22:36.47 | debclair | streuner_, hum, yeah, i've heard of it |
| 22:37.03 | streuner_ | it just works fine here |
| 22:37.05 | stew | judd: depends alsa-source |
| 22:37.06 | judd | Package alsa-source -- depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, make, gcc | c-compiler, dpkg-dev, debhelper (>= 5.0.37), debconf-utils, bzip2. |
| 22:37.21 | stew | that should all easily be satisfiable on squeeze |
| 22:37.34 | smacnay | Is there a howto for sid users and the apparent replacement of OO with LibreOffice? I am not sure if the install is a dirty hands-on one or if it should install automagically. |
| 22:37.38 | stew | debclair: oh, download it, dpkg -i, which will fail, then run "aptitude -f install" which will fix the failure, then continue |
| 22:37.53 | streuner_ | you are able to compile a newer ALSA version, sure, but sometimes it doest solve your problems.... |
| 22:38.17 | grzegorz129 | so, what I can check for this problem: http://pastebin.com/eMG6SdZ5 ? |
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| 22:38.36 | g00se | Thanks folks |
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| 22:39.07 | debclair | stew, that will force the compilation without paying attention to dependencies, right? can I undo this by just removing the package? |
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| 22:39.23 | pfrog | doh, forgot to change bios settings and set boot flag |
| 22:39.34 | debclair | streuner_, what would be the implications of changing from alsa to oss4? |
| 22:39.36 | pfrog | can I get a pretty grub boot splash like the install cd with something |
| 22:40.16 | streuner_ | debclair: sound works, but not some plugins like Flash, if thats the question |
| 22:40.28 | nkuttler | pfrog: apt-cache search boot splash |
| 22:40.36 | pfrog | nkuttler: thanks |
| 22:40.49 | pfrog | squeeze rocks by the way |
| 22:40.53 | pfrog | :-D |
| 22:40.56 | debclair | streuner_, so I wouldn't get to watch youtube videos? |
| 22:41.15 | streuner_ | debclair: only by youtube-dl it... |
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| 22:41.29 | zamba | after upgrading to squeeze, how can i check if my system if all good? |
| 22:41.36 | streuner_ | or you have another idea, which means you have some other plugin installed |
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| 22:41.42 | zamba | thinking about udev, the new uuid stuff and so on |
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| 22:42.40 | streuner_ | debclair: OSS4 support for flash just sucks... |
| 22:42.47 | debclair | streuner_, that seems to be a bad thing for me, i watch youtube videos all the time, and wouldnt like to be downloading them all the time. Thanks for the suggestion tough n_n' |
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| 22:43.12 | Iridos | zamba, use it, if nothing fails, you have no problem? |
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| 22:43.38 | Raydiation | why do i get this when trying to install a deb: PACKAGE depends on sqlite3 (>= 3.7.3); however: |
| 22:43.39 | Raydiation | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.39 | zamba | Iridos: it's a remote system |
| 22:43.46 | zamba | Iridos: and i'm considering doing a reboot after upgrading |
| 22:43.51 | Raydiation | isnt it automatically pulled when its in the Depends in the control file? |
| 22:44.01 | nkuttler | Raydiation: not if you use dpkg |
| 22:44.06 | grzegorz129 | anyone know how to do in my situation with glibc? |
| 22:44.13 | Raydiation | nkuttler: how do i install it then? |
| 22:44.17 | Iridos | zamba, no way to really know... check for warnings during the upgrade |
| 22:44.33 | nkuttler | Raydiation: why don't you install it from the repository, and what is it anyway? |
| 22:44.40 | zamba | Iridos: warnings related to udev and uuid |
| 22:44.46 | Raydiation | nkuttler: i try to build a package from my program |
| 22:44.51 | zamba | Iridos: and i'm running software raid (not for the system, though) |
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| 22:44.59 | nkuttler | Raydiation: well just install the deps then |
| 22:45.08 | Iridos | zamba, and missing firmware, as that has been moved out of the kernel |
| 22:45.18 | nkuttler | Raydiation: you want to package your own software? |
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| 22:45.35 | Raydiation | nkuttler: i have to atm |
| 22:45.43 | zamba | Iridos: missing firmware for network cards, right? |
| 22:45.46 | nkuttler | !tell Raydiation about newmaint |
| 22:45.46 | zamba | Iridos: how do i fix that? |
| 22:45.48 | Raydiation | nkuttler: the dpkg -i works on ubuntu btw .D |
| 22:46.02 | nkuttler | Raydiation: that's really not relevant here |
| 22:46.21 | Iridos | zamba, install the according firmware-* package |
| 22:46.22 | Raydiation | nkuttler: i know, but im interested in what they use |
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| 22:46.25 | zamba | Iridos: ah, ok |
| 22:46.27 | Raydiation | nkuttler: maybe its some symlink |
| 22:46.31 | Raydiation | or alias |
| 22:46.44 | nkuttler | Raydiation: read the msg the bot sent you |
| 22:47.09 | zamba | hm.. damn.. how do i check which kernel module my NICs are using? |
| 22:47.17 | zamba | i've totally forgotten how to do that |
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| 22:47.36 | ansgar | zamba: lspci -k should help for PCI devices. |
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| 22:48.00 | zamba | Iridos: and how do i know if the nic needs a firmware? |
| 22:48.28 | streuner_ | if its working you dont need it :-P |
| 22:48.34 | zamba | streuner_: this is before rebooting :) |
| 22:48.54 | streuner_ | well |
| 22:49.21 | Iridos | zamba, you could install it anyway if in any doubt about it |
| 22:49.32 | streuner_ | true |
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| 22:49.44 | zamba | i have e100, 3c59x and the tulip drivers in use |
| 22:50.37 | mutante | packages.debian.org tells me on the web "Error - |
| 22:50.38 | mutante | Package not available in this suite. |
| 22:50.50 | streuner_ | heh |
| 22:51.05 | mutante | sorry :p |
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| 22:51.05 | streuner_ | that doenst make any sense |
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| 22:51.34 | grzegorz129 | hmm ... imklog: Cannot open proc file system, 1 - Operation not permitted. |
| 22:51.38 | grzegorz129 | what should I do? |
| 22:51.39 | adb | zamba, ask dpkg as, /msg dpkg e100 etc |
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| 22:52.14 | zamba | adb: thanks |
| 22:52.19 | adb | np |
| 22:52.35 | mutante | streuner_: second try: while the website packages.debian.org tells me that "Error - Package not available in this suite." i can install the package on my shell with apt-get. i just thought that was odd. |
| 22:52.56 | xopher | "no more PTYs" when running screen <app>, any ideas? chrooted debian squeeze, with these startup files: http://pastie.org/1542798 and http://pastie.org/1542802 - I have no idea anymore :) |
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| 22:53.28 | mutante | streuner_: it happened to me with "tracker-gui", i am on squeeze and have it "already latest version", while http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/tracker-gui |
| 22:53.50 | nevyn | xopher: how many pty's are you using? there's an in kernel limit defaulted to some (not terribly large) number |
| 22:54.15 | streuner_ | judd, versions tracker-gui |
| 22:54.16 | judd | Package tracker-gui on i386 -- sid: 0.8.17-1; squeeze: 0.8.17-1; wheezy: 0.8.17-1 |
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| 22:54.25 | streuner_ | m |
| 22:54.29 | streuner_ | hm |
| 22:54.33 | p3rror | hello |
| 22:54.37 | nevyn | xopher: it's somewhere around a thousand by default I think |
| 22:54.41 | p3rror | what is the codename of the next debian |
| 22:54.49 | dondelelcaro | p3rror: wheezy |
| 22:54.50 | streuner_ | dpkg, wheezy |
| 22:54.51 | dpkg | The release after squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie), and will be Debian 7.0. Ask me about <testing>. |
| 22:54.51 | p3rror | after sequeeze |
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| 22:55.01 | dondelelcaro | xopher: see /proc/sys/kernel/pty/max and /proc/sys/kernel/pty/nr |
| 22:55.09 | p3rror | yep wheezy the penguin |
| 22:55.32 | xopher | nevyn, dondelelcaro, I'll look that up, thanks |
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| 22:55.53 | dondelelcaro | I'm not actually sure if there is an upper limit on pty/max; I believe the default is 4096 |
| 22:56.24 | xopher | nevyn, dondelelcaro, pty/mac = 4096, pty/nr = 0 |
| 22:56.32 | xopher | hmm |
| 22:56.49 | dondelelcaro | xopher: that means that you aren't using any pty, which would be really odd |
| 22:57.00 | dondelelcaro | xopher: is this actually a Debian system? |
| 22:57.23 | dondelelcaro | have you perhaps built a custom kernel? |
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| 22:57.55 | xopher | I believe it's a custom kernel yes, but the fact that I'm chrooted into it doesn't matter? |
| 22:58.10 | xopher | Linux Snowy 2.6.22.18 #22 Mon Nov 15 17:49:27 CST 2010 armv5tejl GNU/Linux |
| 22:58.21 | streuner_ | omg |
| 22:58.36 | Iridos | streuner_, yes, my son? |
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| 22:59.48 | nevyn | ah it move to a sysctl tunable.. sensible. |
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| 23:03.35 | JonSparks | Hey, I can't connect to my pptp server. Windows is giving me an error 619. |
| 23:03.41 | xopher | no more ideas dondelelcaro? |
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| 23:06.04 | dondelelcaro | xopher: without knowing what options you've built into that custom kernel, I can't tell you what's wrong. But most likely something is wrong with the pty options in the kernel |
| 23:06.20 | dondelelcaro | xopher: try using a Debian kernel and see if that resolves the problem. |
| 23:06.37 | xopher | I'll try that, thanks |
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| 23:10.42 | streuner_ | sends Iridos to kernel-newbies, he is able to fullfille his ego there :-;) |
| 23:11.04 | jordanm | does debian actually lack graphical tools for managing LVM? nothing is jumping out at me in my aptitude search |
| 23:11.22 | OpenTokix | jordanm: What do you need gui for? |
| 23:11.41 | jordanm | I would have expected parted to have this functionality, but it doesn't appear so. I recall yast2 disk management having it |
| 23:12.06 | Arrowmaster | i vaguely recall using one once on debian |
| 23:12.11 | jordanm | OpenTokix: I guess I don't "need" it, but thats something that I would like to have on my desktop system |
| 23:12.22 | OpenTokix | jordanm: ok |
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| 23:12.48 | jordanm | obvously I never had a graphical tool for it before, or I would know what it is :) |
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| 23:13.14 | Arrowmaster | jordanm: system-config-lvm |
| 23:13.23 | JonSparks | Anyone here able to help me with my pptp server? |
| 23:13.34 | Lewoco | Why do I keep getting asked for gnome keyring passwords? I already typed my password to login, why on earth do I need to keep entering it? Is there any way to disable this? |
| 23:13.53 | xopher | dondelelcaro: what is /dev/ptmx - could I use that instead? |
| 23:13.59 | Arrowmaster | jordanm: i dont recall how good it is though, but it exists |
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| 23:14.21 | Arrowmaster | and from the naming its probably something from redhat |
| 23:14.32 | sgn | How do I enable framebuffer console without update-grub wiping it all the time? |
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| 23:18.23 | jordanm | Arrowmaster: nothing wrong with rh stuff. thanks |
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| 23:20.28 | avis | how good are the non-free codec support in debian squeeze ? |
| 23:20.40 | avis | someone mentioned it could not play xvid ? |
| 23:20.52 | JonSparks | Hey, I can't connect to my pptp server. Windows is giving me an error 619. |
| 23:20.56 | Arrowmaster | xvid is a free codec |
| 23:21.10 | streuner_ | what the DFSG gave you :-P |
| 23:21.20 | luichii | stew: once i have the new config file i only have to replace it with the config located in /boot ?? |
| 23:21.37 | streuner_ | usually you have to download essential package |
| 23:22.20 | avis | Arrowmaster, would you happen to know if it'll play anything you throw at it, pretty much like its brother ubuntu ? |
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| 23:23.01 | xopher | dondelelcaro: one more thing, sudo screen works fine - is that a clue? |
| 23:23.06 | streuner_ | *bunt* isnt care much about free... |
| 23:23.14 | Arrowmaster | avis: depends on the player software you are using |
| 23:23.45 | avis | so the global codecs for all multimedia players aren't quite on par as with ubuntu because they are more non-free ? |
| 23:23.58 | Arrowmaster | there are no global codecs on linux |
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| 23:24.11 | avis | system wide, vs player specific |
| 23:24.18 | Arrowmaster | there are no system wide codecs |
| 23:24.24 | avis | user wide codecs |
| 23:24.32 | Arrowmaster | everything is player specific |
| 23:24.36 | avis | i see |
| 23:24.37 | avis | thank you |
| 23:24.59 | avis | broken hearts are nothing new |
| 23:25.03 | avis | thanks all |
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| 23:25.35 | Arrowmaster | i dont think he properly understood that |
| 23:25.41 | streuner_ | tzz |
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| 23:25.54 | streuner_ | well, many other dont too.... |
| 23:26.31 | streuner_ | thats what Mark said, users arent care about much things, only they work... |
| 23:27.14 | streuner_ | and if the codec works, all just fine... |
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| 23:27.49 | streuner_ | sad, but true |
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| 23:35.09 | buntunub | lol not Steve and BIll said that too |
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| 23:40.11 | pfrog | I'm baffled, I try installing phpmyadmin and it wants to install a non-existant package |
| 23:40.15 | pfrog | this is for squeeze |
| 23:40.19 | pfrog | libjs-mootools |
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| 23:40.33 | pfrog | whats the dealio, bad mirror? |
| 23:40.39 | pfrog | bad package? |
| 23:40.44 | RichiH | !find libjs-mootools |
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| 23:42.08 | themill | ,versions libjs-mootools |
| 23:42.10 | judd | Package libjs-mootools on i386 -- lenny-backports: 1.2.4.0~debian1-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.2.4.0~debian1-1; wheezy: 1.2.4.0~debian1-1; sid: 1.3~debian1-1 |
| 23:42.22 | pfrog | bad mirror then? |
| 23:42.31 | pfrog | was using uchicago |
| 23:42.36 | pfrog | I guess it doesn't have the file |
| 23:42.58 | themill | pfrog: unlikely to be. Have you run an "aptitude update" recently? |
| 23:43.15 | themill | pfrog: perhaps pastebin your sources.list and the entire output of "aptitude install phpmyadmin" |
| 23:43.49 | pfrog | I just did |
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| 23:45.00 | pfrog | http://paste.debian.net/106968/ |
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| 23:45.42 | daemonkeeper | Actually you find the package, you get HTTP/403 |
| 23:45.50 | themill | pfrog: it doesn't say that the package can't be found, it says 403 forbidden.... |
| 23:45.59 | pfrog | right, can't be found on the mirror |
| 23:46.02 | belak | On a netinstall is a "graphical desktop environment" gnome? Or is it just the base xorg server? |
| 23:46.18 | pfrog | or well, I guess that would be 404, so I mean, a bad mirror then |
| 23:46.19 | daemonkeeper | No, the webserver denies you to access it |
| 23:46.27 | themill | pfrog: no, it can be found, you're just not allowed to have it. Is that not a public mirror? |
| 23:46.44 | pfrog | it is |
| 23:46.50 | jordanm | not anymore :) |
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| 23:46.54 | pfrog | its in the list of mirrors on the install |
| 23:47.00 | pfrog | I guess not |
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| 23:47.07 | daemonkeeper | http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 23:47.09 | daemonkeeper | It is |
| 23:47.10 | jordanm | they could just be blocking access during maint or something |
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| 23:47.33 | daemonkeeper | As solution, change mirror pfrog |
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| 23:49.09 | pfrog | is there an easier way of switching mirrors or having more than one mirror than editing sources by hand? |
| 23:49.41 | streuner_ | yes, but thats not a solution |
| 23:50.36 | themill | pfrog: cdn.debian.net builds mirror status checking into the geo-ip routines, but I doubt it would notice a problem like this |
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| 23:52.55 | neoice | is packages.debian.org not the same as the packages actually avalible in squeeze? I can see xen-hypervisor in aptitude but cant find it on p.d.o |
| 23:53.18 | magicianlord | are you ready for the debian 6 party?? |
| 23:53.21 | Cim | Hi, can anyone help me with bluetooth? |
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| 23:53.29 | streuner_ | no |
| 23:53.30 | smacnay | Does the xorg upgrade in sid require the removal of the current version or are there more packages to come into the repository that will make the upgrade smoother? |
| 23:53.38 | macrobat | party was days ago |
| 23:53.44 | streuner_ | judd, versions xen-hypervisor |
| 23:53.45 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'xen-hypervisor' was found in i386. |
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| 23:54.31 | macrobat | Cim: just ask your question about bluetooth |
| 23:54.36 | daemonkeeper | streuner_: +-i386 |
| 23:54.44 | dondelelcaro | neoice: the xen-hypervisor you see is a virtual package |
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| 23:55.11 | neoice | dondelelcaro: but there's a "xen-hypervisor" package on p.d.o in sid? |
| 23:55.18 | jelly-home | smacnay: it's sid after the release. Wait a week or two, try again. |
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| 23:55.37 | daemonkeeper | neoice: Provided either by -amd64 or -i386 |
| 23:55.49 | smacnay | jelly-home, thanks - I was assuming that. |
| 23:55.49 | themill | neoice: "apt-cache showpkg xen-hypervisor" |
| 23:55.57 | neoice | shouldnt this search return SOMETHING? http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xen&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
| 23:56.07 | neoice | or does it only show stuff thats avalible for all archs? |
| 23:56.20 | Cim | I can't recive files to my laptop via bluetooth. I have alredy installed obex-data-server but still don't working. I can send files. |
| 23:56.21 | daemonkeeper | No, p.d.o seems broken for stable |
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| 23:56.32 | streuner_ | heh |
| 23:56.34 | smacnay | jelly-home, do you know if the libreoffice upgrade in sid just removes openoffice.org components and installs itself? |
| 23:56.41 | daemonkeeper | Indeed it seems to miss stable completely right now |
| 23:56.48 | neoice | daemonkeeper: thanks, I thought I was crazy |
| 23:56.50 | dvs | is wheezy out yet? |
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| 23:56.55 | Develman | how can i prevent the start of nfs? can i just uninstall it? or is there any prerequisites? |
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| 23:57.03 | daemonkeeper | dvs: /topic |
| 23:57.08 | neoice | dvs: is that a joke? |
| 23:57.16 | dvs | yes! |
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| 23:57.22 | jelly-home | smacnay: that's what the libreoffice package from experimental did a week ago for me |
| 23:57.27 | streuner_ | Develman: just disalbe the daemon |
| 23:57.36 | smacnay | jelly-home, you had no issues, then? |
| 23:57.39 | streuner_ | disale* |
| 23:57.55 | jelly-home | smacnay: notExcel and notWord worked. |
| 23:58.15 | jelly-home | notInterested about the rest |
| 23:58.18 | streuner_ | Develman: just turn off the daemon |
| 23:58.46 | PlagueRat | I have installed lenny 5 or 6 times successfully on different computers. I just installed it on yet another computer and it seems successful, except when it comes up, and I log in, gnome doesn't pop up... I see the icons for computer home and trash, but no menu bar, etc. Did the install twice, and its the same each time. |
| 23:58.50 | smacnay | jelly-home, as long as I have use the base, calc, and writer apps with evolution integration, I will be content |
| 23:58.50 | streuner_ | Develman: but why not just remove the packages? |
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| 23:59.12 | smacnay | jelly-home, hehehe - I like the "notExcel" monicker |
| 23:59.18 | Develman | that was my question: is there any problem uninstalling it? |
| 23:59.32 | Develman | maybe anything needs it?! |
| 23:59.45 | arf | whats the name of that program that selects groups of packages when you install? things like 'development environment' and 'desktop user'? |
