| 00:00.41 | bosyak | hi all. I can't find old stable debian 5.0.8 iso... for download. Plase, I want to train for upgrade. |
| 00:01.04 | yucatan | i use vmware for a while but i found out that there is a vmware workstation for linux is this cli based? or how does this works |
| 00:01.10 | aLemmer | Anyone know how I can change my default sound card in Debian Squeeze? |
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| 00:01.50 | sanooj | did you look at the alsa page I linked you to? |
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| 00:02.20 | aLemmer | Sanooj: I didn't see that. |
| 00:02.30 | sanooj | 01:30 < sanooj> aLemmer: try creating a ~/.asoundrc file. http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc#Default_PCM_device |
| 00:03.18 | sgn | I'm trying to get samba to mount an ntfs volume each time a share is accessed. Works for the old ntfs module, doesn't for ntfs-3g |
| 00:03.29 | luichi | Knorrie: ok thanks i'm looking it ;) |
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| 00:04.39 | themill | bosyak: /msg dpkg install lenny |
| 00:05.00 | aLemmer | Sanooj: thank you very much, broseph. |
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| 00:05.07 | sanooj | np |
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| 00:06.35 | bosyak | themill: thanks! :) |
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| 00:09.24 | yucatan | i use vmware for a while but i found out that there is a vmware workstation for linux is this cli based? or how does this works |
| 00:09.35 | abrotman | ask #vmware ? |
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| 00:13.50 | yucatan | k |
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| 00:16.04 | Traubert | is anyone aware of problems with tab-completion in the bash in squeeze? |
| 00:16.27 | Traubert | I asked about it on #bash and got: |
| 00:16.30 | sanooj | Traubert: it's driving me up the wall too. |
| 00:16.44 | Traubert | < geirha> Traubert: Probably due to broken bash-completion completion package that only works by accident on some versions of bash, so yeah, probably a debian issue. |
| 00:16.49 | Traubert | okay, so not just me |
| 00:17.14 | Traubert | it's a bit weird - much of the time it works, but eg. when there's a word, a space and many possible completions after the space, it fails |
| 00:17.26 | Traubert | in filenames, that is |
| 00:17.28 | sanooj | there are a silly number of completion functions in the default env. haven't gotten around to nuking them yet. |
| 00:17.33 | abrotman | Traubert: did you check the BTS? |
| 00:17.48 | Traubert | a little bit |
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| 00:18.04 | Traubert | but I'm not very good at finding relevant reports, I think |
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| 00:19.14 | javagamer | Is using ubuntu's repository for firefox the best way to get a version of firefox >3.5? |
| 00:19.53 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=bash-completion;dist=stable |
| 00:19.58 | abrotman | javagamer: doubtful |
| 00:20.49 | javagamer | abrotman, can you suggest a better way? I'm trying to use an extension that requires a newer version of FF |
| 00:21.07 | abrotman | javagamer: probably better to use the official installer in your own $HOME |
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| 00:21.19 | Traubert | yeah... couldn't find an exact match there, then again I'm not sure what the problem is exactly yet |
| 00:21.30 | Traubert | so I figured someone else might have more of an idea |
| 00:21.45 | Traubert | also, I can't seem to figure out how keyboard variants work anymore |
| 00:21.49 | abrotman | Traubert: can you give an example filename ? |
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| 00:22.50 | Traubert | abrotman: in a directory with subdirectories "Jimi Hendrix", "The Beatles" and "The Clash", Jimi Hendrix works but The-prefixed ones don't |
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| 00:23.09 | abrotman | Traubert: and if you hit <tab> a few times? |
| 00:23.13 | Traubert | in general: if there's a space, unambiguous completions happen and others don't |
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| 00:23.46 | javagamer | abrotman, does Firefox update itself, or would I have to update manually that way? Also, I'm unsure of how that is better than using ubuntu's version? |
| 00:23.47 | Traubert | when I type "The" and tab, it offers up the list of ambiguities, but when I type more it won't complete anymore |
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| 00:24.02 | abrotman | javagamer: FIIK, i use iceweasel |
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| 00:24.09 | aLemmer | Anyone wanna help me choose a terminal? |
| 00:24.21 | aLemmer | http://www.vecmar.com/ |
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| 00:24.25 | twinkie_addict | bash |
| 00:24.28 | abrotman | Traubert: oh .. try (with quotes) "The<tab><tab> |
| 00:24.29 | twinkie_addict | lol |
| 00:24.44 | sgn | Is there a group on debian that is allowed to mount using ntfs-3g? |
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| 00:25.19 | sanooj | abrotman: for me, "sqlite3 prefixofafilename<tag>" doesn't actually complete to the name is a frequent example. |
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| 00:25.44 | abrotman | sanooj: there are some plugins you have to enable .. |
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| 00:26.05 | sanooj | like the complete a path plugin? :) |
| 00:26.13 | Traubert | abrotman: that works |
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| 00:26.42 | abrotman | Traubert: and if you type: The\ ... and then hit tab tab ? |
| 00:26.50 | Traubert | that doesn't work |
| 00:26.59 | sanooj | anyway, purging bash-completion has fixed it for me so I'm happy again |
| 00:26.59 | Traubert | and escaping the space does work for unambiguous cases |
| 00:27.14 | Traubert | sanooj: what does completion then? |
| 00:27.53 | abrotman | judd: info bash-completion --release squeeze |
| 00:27.55 | judd | Package bash-completion (shells, standard) in squeeze/i386: programmable completion for the bash shell. Version: 1:1.2-3; Size: 135.4k; Installed: 1032k; Homepage: http://bash-completion.alioth.debian.org |
| 00:28.50 | sanooj | Traubert: normal filename completion from bash is enough for my needs. |
| 00:29.12 | Traubert | hm |
| 00:29.16 | Traubert | imma try that too |
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| 00:30.09 | Traubert | huh, still no good, even after starting a new shell |
| 00:30.34 | Traubert | though I guess it's still loaded in others |
| 00:30.36 | Traubert | and accessible |
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| 00:31.38 | sanooj | if you run "set" in your shell do you see a lot of functions twiddling COMPREPLY? |
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| 00:33.15 | sanooj | (I had to aptitude purge it, relogin, and restart my screens to make it fully disappear.) |
| 00:33.46 | Traubert | no |
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| 00:34.34 | Traubert | okay, there's something weird going on with my bash |
| 00:34.56 | Traubert | sam@spike:~$ set | grep COMREPLY |
| 00:34.56 | Traubert | bash: grep: command not found |
| 00:34.56 | Traubert | bash: set: write error: Broken pipe |
| 00:35.04 | aLemmer | Grub doesn't load unless I manually select my HDD from the boot menu. An tips on where to start? |
| 00:35.06 | Traubert | and grep is definitely installed and works |
| 00:36.55 | pipeline | aLemmer: boot order is wrong in your system firmware |
| 00:36.56 | sanooj | maybe you accidentally typed an invisible unicode thingy? it happens to me sometimes, and it might be happening for you since there's an extra space between "bash:" and "grep: command not found" |
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| 00:37.10 | pipeline | aLemmer: every system is different, so I can't hold your hand through that... get into the BIOS menu and fiddle around :\ |
| 00:37.14 | sanooj | Traubert: try typing it in again. (and it's COMPREPLY and not COMREPLY) |
| 00:37.49 | Bushmills | Traubert: what is |? supposed to do? |
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| 00:38.11 | Traubert | okay, that was it, thanks :) |
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| 00:38.23 | Traubert | thought I was going crazy, turns out I'm just stupid |
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| 00:41.43 | amphi | Traubert: nice qotd ;) |
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| 00:42.42 | someee | hi |
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| 00:43.36 | Traubert | now I need to figure out how to enable nodeadkeys again and life with squeeze will be roughly tolerable |
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| 00:43.47 | Traubert | although I suspect that might happen with a reboot now |
| 00:43.51 | twinkie_addict | hehe there are a few fun cli game out there |
| 00:44.06 | dvs | zork? |
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| 00:44.24 | twinkie_addict | havent tryed zork |
| 00:44.45 | twinkie_addict | ninvaders is alot of fun so is greed |
| 00:44.56 | Bushmills | reminds me of Wowbagger, the Infinitely Prolonged, just without the insults |
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| 00:51.18 | sgn | Can I make a binary setuid root for a specific group? |
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| 00:51.54 | Mad7Scientst | Wowbagger was an IRC chatter wasn't he |
| 00:51.55 | Bushmills | you can make it gid |
| 00:52.04 | sgn | Bushmills? |
| 00:52.20 | Mad7Scientst | sgn, yeah |
| 00:52.45 | sgn | Ok, let's say I'd like to let the group "disk" be able to mount through ntfs-3g/fuse? |
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| 00:53.34 | sanooj | set the owner to be root, the group to be disk, remote execute perm from others, flip the suid bit. |
| 00:53.40 | Mad7Scientst | sgn, chmod 4754 file; chown root:disk file |
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| 00:54.04 | sgn | 4754? |
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| 00:54.10 | Mad7Scientst | yes |
| 00:54.15 | luichi | hello |
| 00:54.30 | Bushmills | sgn, man chmod, search for SETGID |
| 00:54.39 | Mad7Scientst | file can be a script which runs the mount command. I'm not sure if you have to be careful of anything when writing setuid scripts |
| 00:54.55 | Mad7Scientst | Bushmills, setgid isn't what he needs |
| 00:55.27 | benedict | hi, let me start with a confession: my problem is with ubuntu but please read my problem first befor sending me back to google and ubuntu-channel. http://paste.ubuntu.com/565607/ is my dmesg showing that it takes mare than 100 secs to mount my ext3 partitions. i fschk-ed them, they are ok. i used palimsest to check the smart-status wich is ok and i did a benchmark http://imagebin.org/137287 - the right one is my hdd, the left is from a fri |
| 00:55.28 | Bushmills | oh, indeed |
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| 00:55.56 | yucatan | can debian use a raid 5 controller the adaptec 2010s? |
| 00:56.02 | benedict | sorry for all the typos... |
| 00:56.12 | Bushmills | yucatan: those are i2o controllers, iirc |
| 00:56.18 | Mad7Scientst | yucatan, I would assume the driver is in the kernel |
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| 00:56.25 | Bushmills | if those are, it can |
| 00:56.28 | doubleukay | shell related question - is there a command to join multiple lines into one, e.g. cat file.txt | foo |
| 00:56.51 | luichi | i'm using an usb to install debian 6.0 i386 to hp mini 210 and i get these errors: (ee) failed to load module 'intel' (module does not exist, 0) and (ee) failed to load module 'vesa' (module does not exist, 0) |
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| 00:57.20 | nkuttler | doubleukay: pipe it through sed/perl |
| 00:57.20 | Mad7Scientst | benedict, Go BACK to Ubuntu channel!!! |
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| 00:57.34 | fl4n | ahoy. is there an easy way to ask dpkg for a diff of /etc against what was the original package-installed /etc, for all packages in the system? |
| 00:57.39 | Mad7Scientst | no really I'm not sure have you tried mounting it from a liveCD? |
| 00:57.46 | sanooj | doubleukay: tr -d '\n' |
| 00:57.56 | sanooj | pipe your cat to that^ |
| 00:58.02 | doubleukay | sweet, that works! |
| 00:58.08 | fl4n | currently i do this by tarring up /etc before configuration, then diffing after configuration. unfortunately if i add extra packages during config, they aren't captured correctly |
| 00:58.33 | doubleukay | earlier I tried sed "s/\n//" but that didn't go well |
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| 00:58.58 | Mad7Scientst | doubleukay, to replace s with nothing? |
| 00:59.08 | doubleukay | to replace \n with nothing |
| 00:59.31 | luichi | i'm using an usb to install debian 6.0 i386 to hp mini 210 and i get these errors: (ee) failed to load module 'intel' (module does not exist, 0) and (ee) failed to load module 'vesa' (module does not exist, 0) how i put the modules? |
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| 01:00.22 | Joe7 | hi |
| 01:00.32 | twinkie_addict | odd i use usb to install 6.0 on my dell min just fine |
| 01:01.07 | Bushmills | luichi: xorg? |
| 01:01.08 | Mad7Scientst | doubleukay, tr -d \\n <input_file |
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| 01:01.29 | luichi | Bushmills: yes |
| 01:01.31 | Bushmills | luichi: aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 01:01.46 | doubleukay | thanks Mad7Scientst (sanooj already answered the same earlier but thanks anyway) |
| 01:01.51 | luichi | Bushmills: i can't put this command in the instalation proces no? |
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| 01:02.36 | Bushmills | what installation process, requiring X? |
| 01:02.55 | luichi | Bushmills: im installing debian 6.0 i386 netinst |
| 01:03.13 | twinkie_addict | luichi: try installing cli only and adding xorg and installing the drivers for card by hand |
| 01:03.18 | benedict | Mad7Scientst: no. i'll do that. i created these partitions by moving and resizing other partitions with gparted ... could this also be a plausible cuase? |
| 01:03.24 | Bushmills | would surprise me if there's no intel driver. try console install |
| 01:03.50 | Mad7Scientst | benedict, if you mount -o remount / does it take a long time too? |
| 01:03.52 | twinkie_addict | xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 01:04.26 | luichi | Bushmills: after the installation couldn't configure automatically the network i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and saw these errors i said |
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| 01:04.43 | Mad7Scientst | benedict, Don't know. Maybe it's a journal problem. You could make it in to ext2 with tune2fs and try to boot with that |
| 01:05.22 | Bushmills | video driver is not related to failure of network configuration |
| 01:05.53 | Mad7Scientst | I know how to make a journal with tune2fs -j but how do you get rid of the journal? I know you can mount as ext2 and the journal is ignored but the kernel will still monut it as ext3 automatically |
| 01:06.01 | avis | is it possible to print to fax using a HP Officejet and debian 6.0 ? |
| 01:06.13 | luichi | Bushmills: ok |
| 01:06.16 | Mad7Scientst | ask in #cups |
| 01:06.31 | Mad7Scientst | If it is posssible on an apple computer then probably so with cups. |
| 01:06.38 | avis | i have run hp-setup, got the HP icon in systray, but see no reference to print to fax |
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| 01:06.52 | twinkie_addict | if you have a bbroadcom wifi car you my want one of the the unofficial instsll isos thaaat have the non-free stuff on them |
| 01:07.16 | twinkie_addict | cant type tonight |
| 01:07.31 | Mad7Scientst | I see you want to make the fax machine send the fax |
| 01:07.31 | jccorrea | hi anyone already run debian in a box vortex86SX |
| 01:07.52 | Mad7Scientst | I don't know how to do faxes other than with efax and a modem |
| 01:07.53 | benedict | Mad7Scientst: i jsut got hinted that the driver i use is very slow... i think i know what to look at now... just for you information what might be the cause |
| 01:07.55 | jccorrea | i've a challenge to install cups in a box with a vortex86sx processor |
| 01:08.09 | rg | takes a shot of gold strike |
| 01:08.11 | jccorrea | i saw that there are a version for it |
| 01:08.12 | Mad7Scientst | benedict, what's the cause? |
| 01:08.20 | jccorrea | http://www.dmp.com.tw/tech/os-xlinux/ |
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| 01:09.56 | Bushmills | benedict: can you exclude the possibility that your problem isn't due to an ubuntu "improvement"? |
| 01:11.07 | benedict | Mad7Scientst: atm there is some1 very helpful at #ubuntu! what he thinks it that windows set the hdd to be that slow (a standard wind behaviour after some disk faults) ... he said that without knowing i have a windows xp and ubuntu 10.04 (two times) mulit-boot |
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| 01:13.03 | benedict | Bushmills: not 100%. although... one install i have is ubuntu 10.04 minimal with fluxbox and the other is a normal install with gnome removed and fluxbox installed - so a bit messy... sooner or later i'm going to install a debina system ;) |
| 01:15.03 | Bushmills | yes, comparing against debian could be indicative |
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| 01:17.53 | buntunub | i got some security updates today!! :P |
| 01:18.00 | buntunub | was beginning to wonder |
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| 01:19.03 | jccorrea | anyone install debian in a vortex86sx processor? |
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| 01:19.22 | jccorrea | x86 SoC (System on Chip |
| 01:19.35 | jccorrea | ?? |
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| 01:20.33 | Bryanstein | jccorrea, what is it that are trying to find out? |
| 01:21.26 | jccorrea | a guy bring me a box with a processor called vortex86sx 300mhz |
| 01:22.14 | jccorrea | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.20 | abrotman | sx? |
| 01:22.41 | jccorrea | Bryanstein i read that there are a version for it http://www.dmp.com.tw/tech/os-xlinux/ |
| 01:22.59 | abrotman | is it really an SX processor ? |
| 01:23.25 | abrotman | jccorrea: there's no FPU .. |
| 01:23.26 | jccorrea | Bryanstein but i don't found nothing about cups inside it |
| 01:24.04 | Bushmills | http://www.vortex86sx.com/?page_id=80 says that debian runs on it. 2.4 and 2.6 kernels |
| 01:24.10 | xk | abrotman: heh |
| 01:24.11 | jccorrea | abrotman the guy told me that is a 300mhz processor,so i search on the net and got about vortex86sx |
| 01:24.34 | abrotman | jccorrea: no FPU ... that's bad |
| 01:24.35 | xk | you have to be oldschool to remember that ;) |
| 01:24.35 | jccorrea | is running dos...but the so will run i a pen drive/usb stick or a memory card |
| 01:24.44 | abrotman | and .. why |
| 01:24.46 | jccorrea | what's FPU? |
| 01:24.56 | abrotman | Floating Point Unit |
| 01:25.09 | jccorrea | ohh yeah |
| 01:25.36 | jccorrea | i read a bit about bit...fi doesn'r support FPU i can't install that? |
| 01:25.43 | abrotman | !elks |
| 01:25.43 | dpkg | well, elks is http://elks.sf.net/ and is the Embeddable Linux Kernel Subset, a project to build a small kernel subset of Linux (which will provide more or less UNIX V7 functionality within the kernel) that can run on machines with limited processor and memory resources. The initial proposed targets are the Intel 8086 and eventually the 286's 16-bit protected mode. |
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| 01:25.58 | Rienzilla | without fpu it will just be a lot slower I think? |
| 01:26.06 | jccorrea | the interest for this guy is make a print server using and put it on a local net |
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| 01:26.18 | Rienzilla | I have debian's on small mipses which don't have an fpu afaik |
| 01:26.20 | jccorrea | the box has 128MB |
| 01:26.33 | xk | better than not having an mmu. |
| 01:26.36 | Rienzilla | that's not a lot for a printserver |
| 01:26.54 | abrotman | it's a print server, it'd be fine |
| 01:27.11 | jccorrea | Rienzilla yeah? for me it's just curiosity because the guy found me on the net/web...and ask me about linux distros |
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| 01:27.53 | Rienzilla | depends, if your printserver is going to run all the ghostscript stuff and produce PS itself it may be quite busy |
| 01:28.07 | jccorrea | I told him about specific versions..and I said to him that i'll search about |
| 01:28.18 | jccorrea | humm |
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| 01:28.47 | Rienzilla | if it's just gonna eat print jobs and feed them to a printer it will probably be fine |
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| 01:29.36 | jccorrea | yes,he told only to do it...the box has 3 usb ports, a ethernet port and a memory card with 2GB |
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| 01:30.29 | jccorrea | input for video and keyboard..it's new for me..i just tets RHEL,Fedora,Ubuntu,OEL.. |
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| 01:30.56 | jccorrea | "test" |
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| 01:31.09 | jccorrea | what you think about? |
| 01:31.23 | jccorrea | what the best distro to try test it? |
| 01:31.45 | abrotman | jccorrea: i'm pretty sure every recent distro requires the FPU |
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| 01:32.05 | jccorrea | i think the guy is looking to use it for a solution in small business..here in brazil this box cost around $100 |
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| 01:32.19 | jccorrea | or 200,00 real(brazilian) |
| 01:32.25 | marklde | using lenny, I am trying to send a fax from my computer using a printer I just installed. I'm in kde. None of the dialogs prompt for a phone number in any way... |
| 01:32.52 | jccorrea | marklde |
| 01:33.47 | jccorrea | abrotman you are told me that doesn't m exist a new distro to use?sorry my bad english |
| 01:33.52 | Rienzilla | I'm not sure. there's a lot of embedded stuff on the market nowadays which can run linux |
| 01:34.27 | jccorrea | the box is on my side....and i want to do a test hahaha... |
| 01:34.38 | Rienzilla | well, fire up a debian installer and see if it works :) |
| 01:35.08 | Rienzilla | if the kernel barfs because it lacks an fpu, you may even make a kernel that does have emulation enabled |
| 01:35.56 | katsrc | can i overclock my cpu with cpufrequtils application? |
| 01:36.24 | jccorrea | I'm consulting the experts not to give punch to a knife |
| 01:36.45 | jccorrea | so i download the i386 .iso |
| 01:36.52 | jccorrea | debian-6.0.0 |
| 01:37.14 | Rienzilla | does the unit have a vga port? keyboard support via usb? serial console? |
| 01:37.24 | jccorrea | Rienzilla i'll test |
| 01:37.32 | jccorrea | has a usb port |
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| 01:38.03 | jccorrea | and a output for video..i'll put my monitor there |
| 01:38.20 | jccorrea | and my keyboard..i've only one PC here... |
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| 01:38.53 | jccorrea | here in brazil is 11:38 pm..i'll try and return here |
| 01:39.45 | jccorrea | burn my usb stick with debian-6.0.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 01:39.58 | abrotman | i doubt it supports booting from USB? |
| 01:40.29 | jccorrea | i think yes,i looked at bios...it's running DOS ahhhff |
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| 01:40.59 | jccorrea | anyone has a advice?recommendation? |
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| 01:41.20 | Rienzilla | if it's running dos you could boot linux with loadlin.exe (does that stillexist?) |
| 01:41.21 | marklde | jccorrea: just because the bios mentions usb does not mean it can boot from usb -- you should double check |
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| 01:41.52 | abrotman | i think loadlin is still in the tools sectoin |
| 01:42.02 | jccorrea | marklde humm..good advice |
| 01:42.14 | abrotman | Rienzilla: http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/tools/ |
| 01:42.28 | Rienzilla | ah indeed |
| 01:42.34 | Rienzilla | it's been quite a while since I used that haha |
| 01:43.09 | Talon_ | I installed debian 6 squeeze, and I also installed the web server apache2. I would like my normal user to be able to control the documents for local web tests.. what should I do? html doc root is /var/www which is owned by root, should I chown it to my default user and all containing files inside it? or is this a bad idea... if so whats the best solution? |
| 01:43.29 | jccorrea | Rienzilla...so i'll put this file there boot from memory card and try to execute that(if the usb boot haha) |
| 01:43.35 | abrotman | Talon_: you can just change the document root to something your user dir |
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| 01:44.19 | Rienzilla | more ore less. If you can manage to get a dos prompt which has somehow access to the contents of the debian cd you should be able to boot it |
| 01:44.23 | jccorrea | Rienzilla you recommend me so |
| 01:44.32 | jccorrea | humm |
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| 01:44.50 | Talon_ | i'd rather not have the document root in my "/home/user/" |
| 01:45.07 | Rienzilla | or if the machine supports booting from usb, you can boot from usb. Maybe it supports netbooting, which makes the situation even different. I can't tell because I don't know your units |
| 01:45.12 | Rienzilla | -s |
| 01:45.21 | Rienzilla | just try it |
| 01:45.23 | jccorrea | Rienzilla it's finishing to create a usb boot stick..so i'll try...any problems i download the file and text it |
| 01:45.29 | Rienzilla | k |
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| 01:45.40 | Rienzilla | If I respond it's gonna be a while, it's bedtime for me first |
| 01:45.51 | jccorrea | thanks...i'lll turn again to tell you |
| 01:45.56 | Rienzilla | k, good luck |
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| 01:46.08 | jccorrea | Rienzilla thanks a lot |
| 01:46.15 | jccorrea | abrotman thanks a lot |
| 01:46.28 | jccorrea | marklde thanks too |
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| 01:47.03 | Talon_ | I was going thru my groups and theres a group called www-data, what if I chown /var/www to www-data and make my default user a member of that group? |
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| 01:48.54 | benedict | Mad7Scientst Bushmills thank you for your help. i appreciate it! |
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| 01:55.10 | jccorrea | humm |
| 01:55.35 | jccorrea | the kernel read a i486 archt |
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| 01:56.06 | jccorrea | there are a version that know it? |
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| 01:56.49 | jccorrea | the box boot my usb sitck |
| 01:56.53 | jccorrea | stick |
| 01:57.36 | abrotman | huh? |
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| 01:58.23 | jccorrea | abrotman searching on the web... |
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| 01:58.30 | abrotman | ok |
| 01:58.35 | InfectedSoul | Apparently you do not have both the openssl binary and openssl development libraries installed. any help forgot the packages lol |
| 01:58.43 | jccorrea | ClutchOS-12.2-i486 |
| 01:58.47 | InfectedSoul | i thought it was in my logs but its not :( |
| 01:58.55 | abrotman | libssl-dev |
| 01:58.58 | InfectedSoul | ty :D |
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| 02:11.55 | Intelliectbank | Is Debian really free software? |
| 02:12.12 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:12.30 | Intellectbank | hmm |
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| 02:13.17 | Intellectbank | So there is no economic costs in terms of the market to produce Debian> |
| 02:13.19 | Intellectbank | ? |
| 02:13.20 | _____________ | Intellectbank, not intirely |
| 02:13.32 | _____________ | Intellectbank, to use it, you have to pay me 100$ |
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| 02:13.37 | abrotman | _____________: don't do that |
| 02:13.40 | Intellectbank | _____________: Woah, that's an awesome nick. |
| 02:13.41 | abrotman | Intellectbank: it is free for you to use |
| 02:13.43 | amphi | _____________: I do hope you think of a new nick soon |
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| 02:14.05 | matrix | hey guys how can i configure my internet on debian lxde=??? |
| 02:14.21 | _____________ | matrix, install wicd |
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| 02:14.32 | ____________ | Attack of the blanks :p |
| 02:14.37 | abrotman | not funny |
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| 02:14.55 | ____________ | sorry |
| 02:14.59 | peterrooney | not even a mockup of funny. |
| 02:15.26 | matrix | whats wicd?? |
| 02:15.40 | abrotman | matrix: aptitude show wicd |
| 02:16.09 | nevyn | intelletbank: there are costs to running the debian project. |
| 02:16.44 | _ | ____________: i hate duplicity of code |
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| 02:20.38 | matrix | it says unable to locate package |
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| 02:22.42 | matrix | any1??? |
| 02:22.56 | abrotman | matrix: which version of Debian ? |
| 02:23.00 | abrotman | did you just install it ? |
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| 02:23.07 | matrix | the latest version |
| 02:23.13 | peterrooney | ,versions wicd |
| 02:23.14 | judd | Package wicd on i386 -- lenny-backports: 1.6.2.2-1~bpo50+1; sid: 1.7.0+ds1-5; squeeze: 1.7.0+ds1-5; wheezy: 1.7.0+ds1-5 |
| 02:23.14 | abrotman | that doesn't answer my question |
| 02:23.17 | matrix | it doesnt even have an option to installç |
| 02:23.20 | matrix | its live lxde |
| 02:23.20 | abrotman | matrix: WHICH version? |
| 02:23.25 | abrotman | oh .. bleh .. no clue |
| 02:23.33 | matrix | 5.08 |
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| 02:26.12 | karsten-nr | matrix: lsb_release -a |
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| 02:27.38 | Texou | hi |
| 02:27.54 | matrix | whats that for??? |
| 02:28.20 | Texou | where can I report some issues I experience during a migration lenny to squeeze? I don't know what's the origin :( |
| 02:28.39 | Gryllida | here.. |
| 02:28.48 | Texou | ah :) |
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| 02:30.04 | Texou | not sure you will be interested but... why not :) my problem is I use gnome-orca and, after the migration, orca doesn't read anymore gnome desktop. It's a migration problem as installing from CD doesn't have such result it seems. |
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| 02:30.34 | matrix | cant get my internet to work!!! |
| 02:30.45 | Texou | matrix: wifi? |
| 02:31.01 | matrix | dont have wifi at myu home |
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| 02:31.08 | jordanm | does anyone know if udev is actually needed for a Xen vps? |
| 02:31.23 | Texou | matrix: so via Ethernet? |
| 02:31.38 | matrix | yeahh |
| 02:31.45 | debiantonio | kde4 is s.... |
| 02:32.15 | Texou | matrix: ifconfig doesn't work? |
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| 02:32.33 | matrix | ok then what?? |
| 02:33.01 | sako | hey guys i want to install debian6 in a vm.. which image is best? do i need the 6 dvds or whatever ? |
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| 02:33.15 | sako | i would just need the first dvd image right? |
| 02:33.16 | simonrvn | sako: no |
| 02:33.21 | simonrvn | sako: yes |
| 02:33.25 | Texou | matrix: ifconfig displays your interfaces (ifconfig -a), then configure in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:33.30 | sako | thanks |
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| 02:34.25 | matrix | how can i configure /etc/network/interfaces??? |
| 02:34.30 | Texou | well so no centralization of migration issues... hmm |
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| 02:34.41 | Texou | matrix: dynamic dhcp? |
| 02:34.58 | simonrvn | with a text editor |
| 02:35.03 | debiantonio | sako, no get kde4 |
| 02:35.28 | matrix | its static |
| 02:35.52 | sako | debiantonio: i want it to run a server vm |
| 02:36.01 | Texou | matrix: hmm I don't remember. But on Google you have tutorials to do this |
| 02:36.07 | sako | i have a debian6 VPS, I'd like to have a vm to play with locally for testing |
| 02:36.15 | Texou | matrix: see Debian wiki, ubuntu wiki, ... |
| 02:36.27 | debiantonio | sako, get old stable with kde 3 |
| 02:36.49 | matrix | i already configured interface should i reboot my machine??? |
| 02:36.50 | jordanm | matrix: "man interfaces" |
| 02:37.02 | jordanm | matrix: invoke-rc.d networking restart |
| 02:37.02 | matrix | or can i use it now |
| 02:37.17 | simonrvn | debiantonio: why would you suggest installing kde3 on a server? |
| 02:37.19 | Texou | matrix: no |
| 02:37.32 | Texou | matrix: do only /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 02:37.38 | debiantonio | sako, now format ultimate install debian 6.o with kde4, cannot gUI |
| 02:37.45 | sako | ??? |
| 02:37.51 | simonrvn | debiantonio: be quiet |
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| 02:38.11 | simonrvn | you giving bad advice to people is not going to get kde4 fixed for you |
| 02:38.14 | debiantonio | ????? |
| 02:39.18 | debiantonio | simonrvn, quiet too |
| 02:39.31 | sako | this guys awesome |
| 02:39.53 | sako | i can't even tell if hes a troll |
| 02:40.16 | abrotman | sadly, no |
| 02:40.44 | sako | so debian i386 is basically a bare server version right? |
| 02:40.46 | debiantonio | but kde4 bad here |
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| 02:40.58 | sako | sorry for the naming convention issues.. im coming from running ubuntu on my servers... |
| 02:40.59 | abrotman | debiantonio: please be quiet |
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| 02:41.12 | abrotman | sako: it can be whatever you want it to be |
| 02:41.23 | debiantonio | abrotman, shhhhhhhhhh |
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| 02:41.37 | sako | ah perfect, i like this.. i feel like i made the right choice. Have been patiently waiting for 6.0 :) |
| 02:41.37 | jordanm | is attempting a squeeze upgrade without an upgrade of udev |
| 02:41.47 | jordanm | probably because I am drunk :\ |
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| 02:42.13 | Arrowmaster | that name should really be changed at some point, i thought i386 support was droped so i486 is really the oldest hardware supported |
| 02:42.17 | jordanm | oops I thought I was in #d-ot |
| 02:42.26 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:42.40 | MindWarper | when is the next version coming out this version is dated |
| 02:42.49 | Arrowmaster | has a 486 upstairs he could go install squeeze on..... |
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| 02:43.41 | dvs | !wwwr |
| 02:43.41 | dpkg | I don't know when Wheezy will release. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. |
| 02:43.48 | dvs | heh |
| 02:43.54 | Arrowmaster | !wheezy pool |
| 02:43.54 | dpkg | See <wheezy pool 1> for bets placed on when Wheezy will release. To add one, ask me about <wheezy bet>. |
| 02:44.37 | preller | how do i set the default frontend for debconf? i want to use readline |
| 02:45.07 | abrotman | preller: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
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| 02:49.23 | matrix | how can i cofigure my dns in debian??? |
| 02:50.21 | matrix | any1??? |
| 02:50.33 | matrix | i configured everything but DNS!! |
| 02:51.56 | abrotman | matrix: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 02:51.57 | xk | did anyone win the squeeze release date bet? |
| 02:52.26 | Arrowmaster | i think somebody was a day off, but they cheated |
| 02:52.41 | dvs | rel mgr? |
| 02:52.46 | matrix | ok now???? |
| 02:52.55 | matrix | it says permission denied |
| 02:53.02 | Arrowmaster | no i saw them edit it a day or two before the release |
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| 02:55.18 | peterrooney | xk: according to dpkg over the weekend, hid3 won. |
| 02:56.06 | abrotman | people cheated |
| 02:56.11 | abrotman | as usual |
| 02:56.23 | Tramp | won what? a pony? |
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| 02:57.13 | matrix | any1?? |
| 02:57.15 | stew | cheated? |
| 02:57.35 | stew | matrix: you have to edit it as root |
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| 02:58.08 | Arrowmaster | seems ive got the earlist date in the wheezy pool right now, everybody is so conservative right now |
| 02:58.08 | Megaf | Hello all, id like to install the package quasselclient, but it will install quasselcore and some other packages that I dont need |
| 02:58.23 | Megaf | How do I install only quassel-client and its deps? |
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| 02:59.33 | Mad7Scientst | Humm my ath5k driver doesn't have a wireless0 interface |
| 02:59.34 | stew | Megaf: /msg dpkg apt recommends |
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| 03:02.11 | buntunub | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.26 | buntunub | hmm dpkg broke? |
| 03:02.30 | initq | what is the testing debian nick name now? |
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| 03:02.55 | ranix | is there a way to clone my Debian installation with debootstrap and apt-get, such that the resulting installation has every package installed that the parent machine has? |
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| 03:03.00 | Megaf | thanks stew |
| 03:03.08 | stew | buntunub: that command expects a package name as an argument to list its Recommends: |
| 03:03.13 | stew | initq: wheezy |
| 03:03.15 | dvs | !wheezy |
| 03:03.15 | dpkg | The release after squeeze will be called "wheezy" (the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie), and will be Debian 7.0. Ask me about <testing>. |
| 03:03.28 | stew | ranix: /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
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| 03:03.40 | ranix | thanks stew |
| 03:03.42 | Laugarhraun | >Stopping network connection manager: NetworkManager |
| 03:03.50 | Laugarhraun | while updating from lenny to squeeze |
| 03:03.55 | Laugarhraun | ssh connection lost... ergh |
| 03:04.08 | Laugarhraun | can't that cause _big_ problems? |
| 03:04.21 | Laugarhraun | and what should I do? |
| 03:04.30 | initq | stew: from the jeffersons? |
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| 03:04.55 | stew | initq: debian releases are named after toy story characters. wheezy was the penguin |
| 03:05.08 | initq | stew: ah ok |
| 03:05.19 | stew | Laugarhraun: run "dpkg --configure -a" and "apt-get -f install" to resume whatever was happening |
| 03:05.31 | Laugarhraun | stew: so I open a new ssh connection? |
| 03:05.42 | Laugarhraun | (btw aptitude and not apt-get) |
| 03:06.09 | Laugarhraun | and the fact is that the installation is probable still going on, although the connection has closed |
| 03:06.55 | stew | Laugarhraun: apt-get is recommended over atptitude in this case, you should be reading the release notes for the recommended upgrade procedure |
| 03:07.21 | Megaf | What!? There is no spell checker on the Debian version of Quassel Client!!! |
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| 03:09.28 | Laugarhraun | stew: oh, I thought you always had to use the same program, no matter what the conditions were |
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| 03:09.43 | Laugarhraun | so, in my case, shoud I dot apt-get -f install or aptitude -f install stew? |
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| 03:10.18 | stew | Laugarhraun: no, you can switch from one to the other |
| 03:10.32 | stew | Laugarhraun: apt-get is recommended for the install |
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| 03:10.45 | Laugarhraun | woops |
| 03:10.49 | stew | Laugarhraun: (so was running in screen, so that it wouldn't be interrupted if you lose your ssh connection) |
| 03:10.52 | Laugarhraun | well stew I'll remember that |
| 03:11.02 | stew | http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrade-preparations |
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| 03:11.40 | Laugarhraun | I cannot ssh my server (no route to host), I'll have to reboot it tomorrow and hope it works... |
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| 03:12.16 | stew | Laugarhraun: you are running network-manager on a server? |
| 03:12.20 | Laugarhraun | oh wait, it's back on! |
| 03:12.21 | stew | why? |
| 03:12.28 | Laugarhraun | The ssh session had resumed |
| 03:13.08 | Laugarhraun | stew: When I installed debian, it was locally, and with a graphic enviromnent. Some programs are still here (evolution, openoffice.org, etc.). I know I should uninstall it all |
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| 03:23.21 | newbie | okey |
| 03:23.24 | newbie | iy is my issue |
| 03:23.48 | Guest93989 | i have debian squeeze on my cd as far as i know debian asks me for extra firmware for wireless |
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| 03:24.10 | Guest93989 | what file do i have to download for putting wirelss firmware into usb |
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| 03:25.37 | hellyeah | abrotman: |
| 03:25.40 | hellyeah | are you here |
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| 03:25.56 | abrotman | no |
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| 03:27.28 | hellyeah | okey |
| 03:27.38 | abrotman | xk: it's late! |
| 03:28.15 | hellyeah | i have debian cd and empty usb what file do i have to download for putting wirelss firmware into usb |
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| 03:29.28 | abrotman | isn't that covered in the installation manual ? |
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| 03:29.49 | hellyeah | i have atheros br9287 |
| 03:30.52 | hellyeah | pls help |
| 03:31.01 | hellyeah | i am little sick |
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| 03:32.05 | homie | hellyeah: apt-cache search ^wireless|grep -i module |
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| 03:32.32 | hellyeah | okey i will come back |
| 03:32.34 | homie | hellyeah: or apt-cache search linux|grep -i firmware |
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| 03:33.35 | kn0x | what can i add to /etc/network/interfaces to prevent a particular interface from adding itself as a default gateway |
| 03:34.16 | kn0x | by default ip route shows: default via .... dev eth1 default via ... dev eth0 |
| 03:34.25 | ranix | kn0x: can you rephrase your question please? |
| 03:34.30 | ranix | it didn't make sense |
| 03:34.31 | abrotman | are they both DHCP ? |
| 03:34.48 | kn0x | abrotman: no both static |
| 03:34.48 | abrotman | then just comment out the gateway line for one of the interfaces |
| 03:35.11 | kn0x | abrotman: doh |
| 03:35.12 | abrotman | and then use the postup bit to bring up a gateway without making it the default |
| 03:35.15 | jordanm | kn0x: if you add a network to a particular network, it wil always add route to that network throught that interace, but that does not make it the default gw |
| 03:35.32 | jordanm | err add an interface to a particular network |
| 03:35.48 | ranix | an interface to a network? aah |
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| 03:36.33 | kn0x | jordanm / abrotman thank you... this was a dumb question |
| 03:36.41 | jordanm | ok, ok... add an interface with an addess on a network |
| 03:36.52 | abrotman | i didn't do it! |
| 03:37.04 | abrotman | takes the beer from jordanm |
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| 03:37.40 | jordanm | abrotman: its bourbon, thanks |
| 03:37.43 | kn0x | the problem was the gateway statement... for the interface... obviously I didnt want that :X |
| 03:38.04 | abrotman | much better |
| 03:38.06 | kn0x | and yes it automatically adds the route for the connected network :D |
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| 03:39.37 | jordanm | kn0x: that sounds like correct behavior, otherwise, the interface has no business even being up |
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| 03:39.57 | jordanm | if it should not communicate with the network that it is directly connected to |
| 03:39.59 | kn0x | yeup. |
| 03:40.39 | kn0x | wow im loving this model M keyboard |
| 03:40.48 | nevyn | model M ftw! |
| 03:40.49 | kn0x | anyone else have one of these things |
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| 03:41.01 | nevyn | has a dozen for when the one he uses breaks |
| 03:41.02 | hellyeah | hey |
| 03:41.14 | hellyeah | hellyeah-VPCF136FX hellyeah # apt-cache search ^wireless/grep -i modules |
| 03:41.14 | hellyeah | hellyeah-VPCF136FX hellyeah # apt-cache search linux/grep -i firmware |
| 03:41.17 | kn0x | nevyn: i thought these were indestructable ;) |
| 03:41.22 | hellyeah | this two commands gives nothing |
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| 03:41.26 | nevyn | kn0x: not quite. |
| 03:41.33 | hellyeah | pls help |
| 03:41.35 | nevyn | the cabling can die. |
| 03:42.05 | kn0x | nevyn: ohhh.. but the ps2 looked faily easy to replace.. they fully disassemble |
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| 03:42.29 | kn0x | i had to take this one apart because I got it off ebay and it had 15 years worth of crumbs, dust, and whoknowswhat inside |
| 03:42.32 | kn0x | so gross |
| 03:42.37 | hellyeah | how can i see which firmware installed on my computer |
| 03:42.38 | kn0x | 1/4" of grime |
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| 03:48.08 | karlpinc | hellyeah: Probably "aptitude search '~ifirmware'". But that may not tell you what's actually used. |
| 03:48.24 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 03:48.31 | hellyeah | i have put this on my usb also |
| 03:48.40 | karlpinc | hellyeah: I suspect that looking at the output of dmesg would tell you, or /var/log/messages. |
| 03:48.57 | hellyeah | let me check |
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| 03:50.05 | karlpinc | hellyeah: There may or may not be voodoo in /sys/ that tells you too. I'd be interested in knowing the "right way" to tell. |
| 03:50.09 | quuxman | How do I tell a daemon not to run? |
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| 03:50.32 | hellyeah | i actually found the necessary link |
| 03:50.43 | hellyeah | but i dont know how can i put that firmware into my usb |
| 03:50.55 | hellyeah | http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 03:51.07 | quuxman | currently I use `sudo rm /etc/init.d/S??foo`, but I get the feeling there's a better way |
| 03:51.15 | homie | hellyeah: just get the .deb file for the firmwares, put it in your usb, and install it later on when you boot into your system |
| 03:51.30 | stew | quuxman: its better to rename the S link to a K link than removing it |
| 03:51.41 | karlpinc | quuxman: You either read the README.Debian or you disable the init.d. I'm not sure the right way to do that on squeeze yet. |
| 03:51.51 | hellyeah | it is also good choice |
| 03:51.54 | hellyeah | :d |
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| 03:52.04 | karlpinc | hellyeah: You want to use the firmware to install? |
| 03:52.04 | hellyeah | what is the deb package for atheros br 9287 |
| 03:52.04 | homie | hellyeah: if you want to install it you have to be running your usb system, if that's what you mean, or you have to know where to unpack the contents of the .deb file .... |
| 03:52.54 | hellyeah | i just want this during installation debian, it asks me for additional firmware (wireless) and i want to load my wireless card during debian installation |
| 03:52.59 | hellyeah | thats all i want |
| 03:53.19 | karlpinc | hellyeah: The install guide should tell you what to do. What part of that don't you understand? |
| 03:53.35 | hellyeah | that part |
| 03:53.39 | quuxman | stew: ah, thanks, I remember that trick... otherwise it comes back to haunt you on an upgrade |
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| 03:53.47 | hellyeah | showing additional firmware during installation |
| 03:53.53 | homie | hellyeah: normally you search for a atheros module like apt-cache search atheros |
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| 03:54.27 | homie | hellyeah: if it's in there, you'll get it, if not search for another package named like wireless-tools wireless-modules etc... |
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| 03:54.32 | hellyeah | hostapd - user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator |
| 03:54.32 | hellyeah | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.45 | homie | no |
| 03:55.03 | hellyeah | debian wiki said install wireless tools http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 03:55.14 | homie | yes do that then |
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| 03:55.44 | karlpinc | hellyeah: Or just put that .deb on the usb key and tell the installer where it is when it asks. |
| 03:56.05 | hellyeah | put wireless tolls into usb ? |
| 03:56.53 | homie | heh, that can go on and on for hours here, it's pretty nonsense now to talk and talk about the same thing.... |
| 03:57.04 | hellyeah | sory |
| 03:57.24 | hellyeah | i am sick my brain shake itself |
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| 03:57.27 | hellyeah | i hope it works |
| 03:57.41 | homie | try it, just tryin will show you ... |
| 03:57.51 | hellyeah | is last version debian squeeze |
| 03:57.52 | hellyeah | ? |
| 03:57.58 | homie | the sketch is the same, grab the .deb's you think you need and put them onto usb, and install |
| 03:58.14 | homie | no it's always sid |
| 03:58.27 | homie | don't know but squeeze is still testing i think |
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| 04:02.23 | ZykoticK9 | homie, squeeze is not the current stable |
| 04:02.35 | stew | ZykoticK9: yes, it is |
| 04:02.39 | ZykoticK9 | s/not/now |
| 04:02.50 | ZykoticK9 | sorry, typo |
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| 04:03.41 | jon8 | how long will 5.0 still be supported when it comes to packages, bugfixes, security fixes, etc. |
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| 04:03.56 | jon8 | i'm pretty new to linux and i'm scared to death in upgrading from 5.0 to 6.0 |
| 04:04.05 | ZykoticK9 | jon8, approximately one year (from what i've read) |
| 04:04.10 | jon8 | if i fail at the upgrade some clients of mine will be very upset |
| 04:04.56 | stew | jon8: make sure you follow the procedure in the release notes for upgrading |
| 04:05.51 | jon8 | i haven't even read them |
| 04:05.58 | jon8 | i can just tell you flat out that i'm scared to attempt it |
| 04:06.10 | jon8 | as if i mess it up and break my server, i'll have a lot of clients very upset with me |
| 04:07.11 | stew | jon8: then just make sure your backups are up to date before you start and you have a way to roll back to the backup if something goes wrong |
| 04:07.58 | jon8 | i might just hire someone tbh |
| 04:08.00 | jon8 | lol |
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| 04:08.22 | ranix | jon8: yeah back up data if you're scared. |
| 04:08.32 | ranix | jon8: but, don't forget that dist-upgrade has been around for years and years |
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| 04:09.02 | ranix | I've been here for what like 13 years now and I've never had a system destroyed by it, even when I had very little idea what I was doing |
| 04:09.24 | xk | upgrade from 1.3 to 6.0 in one go |
| 04:09.36 | ranix | long jumps not supported! |
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| 04:16.35 | hellyeah | is it possible to download some package from spesific repo into usb |
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| 04:17.38 | phogg | hellyeah: of course. wget, cp |
| 04:18.02 | hellyeah | no i cant tell |
| 04:18.08 | hellyeah | with every dependency |
| 04:18.22 | hellyeah | for example i want to download gnome with all parts into my usb |
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| 04:19.58 | Some_Person | How can I uninstall wl? |
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| 04:21.09 | hellyeah | aptitude purge wl |
| 04:22.21 | Some_Person | Ermm, no |
| 04:22.38 | Some_Person | wl = Broadcom's proprietary wifi driver |
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| 04:23.52 | hellyeah | are you sure it is written as wl - mail/news reader supporting IMAP for emacsen |
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| 04:29.47 | sharp15 | how do i configure a static ip address? |
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| 04:30.17 | sharp15 | implied in that question is how to remove networkmanager and do this a sane way. |
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| 04:31.08 | Bushmills | man interfaces |
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| 04:32.54 | Bushmills | aptitude purge network-manager |
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| 04:34.53 | sharp15 | Bushmills: is that going to cause package management problems? debian or ubuntu (don't remember which) used to have it's basic install as a dependency tree from one package and picking at its dependencies caused hell. |
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| 04:35.14 | Bushmills | debian does fine without network-mismanager |
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| 04:35.36 | sharp15 | Bushmills: i expect the os does. i'm making sure the package management scheme isn't going to freak. |
| 04:35.37 | Bushmills | some packages recommend it. some may depend on it. |
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| 04:36.16 | sharp15 | man interfaces tells me what options i can provide but not what grammar to use. unless i'm misreading. |
| 04:36.38 | Bushmills | read it completely. including examples |
| 04:38.42 | sharp15 | i saw 2 examples with no apparent connection with the document. |
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| 04:40.04 | Bushmills | oh, there's connection plenty. they show how the interfaces file could look like, by means of .. example |
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| 04:41.35 | gh0st3r | does debian 6 squeeze do some kind of new networking magic |
| 04:41.36 | gh0st3r | ? |
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| 04:41.48 | gh0st3r | my lo0 disappeared when i added another interface in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:44.42 | boota2 | you accidentaly deleted lo0 |
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| 04:44.56 | boota2 | You cannot into /etc |
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| 04:46.43 | boota2 | add this lines into you interfaces |
| 04:46.43 | boota2 | auto lo0 |
| 04:46.43 | boota2 | iface lo inet loopback |
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| 04:47.22 | boota2 | sorry, first line will be "auto lo", not "auto lo0" |
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| 04:50.46 | hellyeah | doo you suggest amd64 for intel i7 computer |
| 04:51.31 | flamingspinach | I'm probably missing something really obvious, but... in aptitude when I do "g: Download/Install/Remove Pkgs" I get 144 packages under "Packages being automatically held in their current state" |
| 04:51.44 | flamingspinach | but the explanations for the packages not being upgraded are all sort of bizarre |
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| 04:52.07 | flamingspinach | For example "bcpp will not be upgraded to version 0.0.20050725-2, to avoid breaking the following dependencies:" and then no dependencies listed |
| 04:52.07 | mostym | http://www.upload3r.com/serve/100211/1297399880.png |
| 04:52.10 | flamingspinach | what's going on? |
| 04:52.13 | mostym | what gives? |
| 04:54.20 | hellyeah | hey |
| 04:54.33 | hellyeah | debÅan squeeze amd64 is compatible with intel i7 |
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| 04:55.10 | Bushmills | yes, it is |
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| 04:55.33 | hellyeah | hmm i must install debian squeeze amd64 it is good choice isnt it |
| 04:55.48 | hellyeah | i ask this because in my computer, Linux mint is here |
| 04:55.51 | hellyeah | and i am not glad |
| 04:56.02 | hellyeah | i think to pass debian |
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| 04:56.22 | Bushmills | you can use 32 bit kernel |
| 04:57.21 | hellyeah | is that possible to btrfs in debian |
| 04:57.47 | sharp15 | is there an online copy of the debian manual pages? |
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| 04:58.07 | sharp15 | specifically interfaces(5) |
| 04:58.44 | Bushmills | sharp15: http://docs.scarydevilmonastery.net/ |
| 04:58.49 | mostym | running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces |
| 04:59.04 | smacnay | What should the dir permissions be for both /usr and /usr/lib? |
| 04:59.06 | mostym | so, what do I runn? |
| 04:59.08 | mostym | *run |
| 04:59.18 | smacnay | Mine are user:group -> me:me |
| 04:59.30 | smacnay | for both |
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| 05:00.02 | hellyeah | what is armel architecture |
| 05:00.15 | Bushmills | mostym: difficult to say, without you telling what you want to achieve |
| 05:00.58 | Some_Person | How can I get SMB shares I mount with nautilus to actually get a proper mountpoint somewhere? |
| 05:01.35 | mostym | well I added eth0:0 |
| 05:01.41 | Bushmills | Some_Person: mount them manually, or through fstab, or with autofs |
| 05:01.45 | mostym | to the etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:01.52 | mostym | so, i wanted to commit it. |
| 05:01.59 | mostym | and then test |
| 05:02.01 | Bushmills | mostym: ifup |
| 05:02.08 | mostym | to make sure they both come up. |
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| 05:02.28 | mostym | Bushmills, kinda odd. |
| 05:02.38 | sharp15 | ok. great. now how do i handle dns? |
| 05:02.40 | mostym | the interfaces should restart. |
| 05:02.55 | Some_Person | Bushmills: fstab and manually are not really viable options in my situation |
| 05:03.24 | Some_Person | On ubuntu, when I went to an SMB share, it got a mountpoint in ~/.gvfs. Is there any way to make Debian do the same? |
| 05:03.53 | hellyeah | debian has a problem with new generation nvidia card |
| 05:03.58 | hellyeah | i have nvidia gt425m |
| 05:04.09 | Bushmills | Some_Person: explore the convenience of the automounter |
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| 05:04.58 | Bushmills | sharp15: you configure it in such a way that it suits your needs |
| 05:05.35 | sharp15 | Bushmills: i meant how do i configure them. there is no mention of them in interfaces(5) "dns" and "nameserver" are no where in the document. |
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| 05:06.20 | Bushmills | without resolveconf, you'd set up name server in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 05:06.48 | sharp15 | Bushmills: so resolv.conf isn't automatically generated? |
| 05:06.51 | Bushmills | woth resolvconf, your interfaces file may carry name server lines |
| 05:07.50 | Bushmills | sharp15: generally, nothing is automatically generated unless you have a program installed which does generate aspects of configuration automatically |
| 05:08.45 | Bushmills | allows your some tradeoff between control and being lazy |
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| 05:09.35 | Bushmills | alternatively, use DHCP |
| 05:10.04 | sharp15 | Bushmills: i meant autogenerated from a config. file similar to gentoo. |
| 05:10.34 | Bushmills | did i mention resolvconf? |
| 05:10.37 | sharp15 | Bushmills: i don't want my ip address bouncing around. this system is supposed to have an ssh server running on it. once i can reach it i'll be much less cranky. |
| 05:10.50 | sharp15 | yes you did. working on it. |
| 05:11.40 | sharp15 | still doesn't explain how i handle specifying multiple dns nameservers |
| 05:11.55 | sharp15 | or restart the interfaces. |
| 05:12.07 | Bushmills | failover, or split horizon? |
| 05:12.43 | sharp15 | uh. this is a user system. so failover i guess, but i'm not really sure about the term in this context. |
| 05:13.24 | Bushmills | your reason to let your system query multiple name server |
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| 05:13.56 | sharp15 | Bushmills: if that was a question i don't understand. |
| 05:13.57 | Some_Person | Is there not just some way to get the behavior in ubuntu (I "connect to server" in nautilus or doubleclick my server in Network in nautilus, and it mounts it)? |
| 05:14.24 | Bushmills | sharp15: why do you want to use multiple name servers? |
| 05:15.34 | Some_Person | In ubuntu, if I just open a samba server in Nautilus, it gets a mountpoint in ~/.gvfs. It doesn't seem to get one at all in Debian |
| 05:16.03 | sharp15 | Bushmills: in case one doesn't respond? because one is my garbage dsl consumer "box". |
| 05:17.21 | Bushmills | put your recursor on your gateway - if that one doesn't respond, because the machine is down, there's not much use in getting host names resolved anyway. alternatively, have multiple "server" lines in resolv.conf |
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| 05:19.48 | Nomadicus | Hello. |
| 05:20.53 | Nomadicus | How do I check what video hardware I have and how do I determin if the proper video drivers are being used? |
| 05:21.16 | Bushmills | Nomadicus: lspci, and debian wiki |
| 05:21.22 | nevyn | Nomadicus: do you have a grapical image on your screen? |
| 05:21.38 | Bushmills | lspci -k shows modules associated with a device |
| 05:22.20 | Some_Person | anybody? |
| 05:23.18 | Technicus | I inquire because Compiz is not working. It fails and launches default window manager. |
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| 05:23.48 | Technicus | It complains about software rendering. |
| 05:23.48 | nevyn | Technicus: what video hardware do you have? |
| 05:23.57 | nevyn | Technicus: yeah it won't like that. |
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| 05:25.14 | nevyn | Technicus: if you really can't tell paste the output of lspci |grep VGA into paste.debian.net |
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| 05:26.33 | piercedw_ | Does anyone have any suggestions to remedy the installer hanging right after detecting components on 32 and 64-bit (ver 6)? |
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| 05:29.38 | Technicus | It is: nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2) |
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| 05:29.53 | MindWarper | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/apt-get-upgrade-debian-lenny-5-to-debian-6-squeeze/ |
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| 05:34.20 | Technicus | nevyn: I believe I have found out what I need to do. Thanks for the guidance! |
| 05:34.59 | Some_Person | I know this is an upstream thing, but is there any way to get the location bar/button toggle button back in nautilus? |
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| 05:37.40 | mostym | should the HWAddress be the same for eth0 and an alias eth0:0 |
| 05:39.40 | nevyn | mostym: I don't know that HWAddress of the alias matters that much |
| 05:40.16 | nevyn | mostym: them being the same would make sense |
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| 05:54.11 | Technicus | nevyn: I am following instructions on the Debian Wiki and it provides me with this command: [ invoke-rc.d gdm restart ] but I recieve the response: [ invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/gdm not found. ]. What am I missing? |
| 05:54.25 | nevyn | gdm. |
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| 05:55.06 | Technicus | I so not understand, how do I restart X? |
| 05:55.13 | crodjer | how to submit saved reports back from reportbug? |
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| 06:02.16 | nillerz | Hey guys! |
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| 06:02.37 | nillerz | X.org isn't instantly picking up a gamepad as a gamepad, and is just pretty much setting it as a generic doohicky. |
| 06:02.39 | spal | How can I get Flash 10.1? |
| 06:02.42 | spal | I am using Wheezy. |
| 06:02.55 | crodjer | how to submit saved reports later reportbug? |
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| 06:03.06 | nillerz | Can anyone tell me how to make sure it does detect it as one? |
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| 06:07.06 | nillerz | a rough synopsis would be nice... |
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| 06:07.11 | nillerz | nothing too intense. |
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| 06:13.55 | Lancelot | Quick question: there are 8 DVD images on the site for the i386 images. Which one should I get? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/iso-dvd/ |
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| 06:18.43 | Ashtray_Vampire | where can i find the netinstaller of debian lenny? :s in the official page the only available version is 6 |
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| 06:20.15 | ershad | Hello, I'm using debian 6 RC 2 in virtual machine. Could you tell me how to reset the root password in it? appending "1" in kernel line in grub is asking root password for maintainence. |
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| 06:23.34 | ryan-c | ershad: append: rw init=/bin/bash |
| 06:23.48 | ryan-c | erage: that'll drop you directly into a root shell |
| 06:23.59 | ryan-c | run passwd from there |
| 06:24.06 | ershad | ryan-c: Thanks, I will try it. |
| 06:24.09 | ryan-c | and then sync after you set the password |
| 06:24.13 | ryan-c | then reboot |
| 06:24.33 | ryan-c | make SURE you run `sync` BEFORE rebooting |
| 06:24.39 | ershad | Sure |
| 06:26.25 | ershad | ryan-c: Thanks, it worked :) |
| 06:27.25 | ershad | I've a small confusion on whether to go for stable or testing release. Is it possible to install new packages in testing as they comes out? |
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| 06:32.22 | ershad | ryan-c: May I know why I need to run sync after changing the password ? |
| 06:32.44 | xk | data is cached and not flushed to disk |
| 06:32.53 | xk | 'reboot' doesn't flush before rebooting |
| 06:33.07 | ershad | xk: I see, that's wonderful. |
| 06:33.12 | ryan-c | no flush means the password doesn't get updated on disk |
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| 06:33.20 | xk | only a problem in single user mode I think. |
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| 06:33.32 | ryan-c | you could also run mount -o remount,rw / before rebooting |
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| 06:33.58 | ershad | Thanks :) |
| 06:34.24 | ershad | and please help me with selecting testing/stable release. Testing supports all new packages, eh? |
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| 06:45.41 | rayonp | plz can someone help me? |
| 06:46.16 | rayonp | i need the netinstall of debian lenny but i cannot find it :S i got the official link but it does not work |
| 06:46.34 | xk | hmm |
| 06:46.44 | xk | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 06:48.25 | rayonp | it does not work :S |
| 06:48.34 | nillerz | hey, I have a USB gamepad that isn't broadcasting the fact that it is a gamepad, but input-events is telling me that it is outputting a signal and does, in theory, work. How do I make x.org realize it is a gamepad? I am in xorg.conf now, I just don't know what to do here. |
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| 06:57.02 | Andorin | Wow. I'm looking at how to install Debian with an encrypted file system, and I'm kind of overwhelmed by all the technical information I'm seeing. |
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| 06:58.14 | Andorin | The guide that dpkg links to is a little easier to understand |
| 06:58.25 | ThePub | well the bsd squeeze is interesting enough. |
| 06:59.29 | Andorin | I guess this is what they made virtual machines for... experimenting with this stuff |
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| 07:00.03 | Andorin | Except that I don't know how to partition a virtual machine. =/ |
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| 07:01.38 | ryan-c | Andorin: heh, i've been using encrypted filesystems under linux for 10+ years |
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| 07:02.13 | Andorin | Nice. I've been using Linux (mostly Ubuntu) for almost two years but I'm still quite the noob at it. |
| 07:02.17 | ryan-c | words cannot describe how pleased I was when debian added support for encrypted root filesystems to the installer. |
| 07:03.00 | rayonp | why is not available debian lenny? :s where can i get the iso file? |
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| 07:05.07 | Andorin | rayonp: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/debian-installer/ |
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| 07:05.29 | Andorin | Just had to dig a little |
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| 07:05.46 | g0rd0n | hello! i has serious problem with dpkg: http://pastebin.com/37u2VsAn |
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| 07:06.27 | g0rd0n | i just wanted to upgrade my debian 6.0 from december to the latest version but it fails, as you can see... any ideas on how i can fix this? |
| 07:06.31 | nillerz | hey, I have a USB gamepad that isn't broadcasting the fact that it is a gamepad, but input-events is telling me that it is outputting a signal and does, in theory, work. How do I make x.org realize it is a gamepad? I am in xorg.conf now, I just don't know what to do here. |
| 07:06.33 | nillerz | http://pastebin.com/PfTxHAUi |
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| 07:07.16 | rayonp | Andorin, i was traying in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.8/i386/iso-cd/debian-508-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 07:07.53 | rayonp | and i googled :s but ... thanks a lot :D |
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| 07:11.13 | rayonp | uhm...i see i got a problem to solve some sites...for that reason i could see the iso's url |
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| 07:16.38 | Datz | Hi, I'm running into errors installing POE::Component::EasyDBI via cpan. I've looked for a package, but can't find one. does anyone know if one exists? |
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| 07:25.00 | Corin | Um... does anyone know how I'd go about installing MCC Interim Linux on my machine? |
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| 07:39.21 | [gnubie] | waves |
| 07:39.28 | g0rd0n | =) |
| 07:39.34 | Lancelot | question: which image should I get? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 07:39.50 | g0rd0n | i would go for netinstall |
| 07:40.15 | Lancelot | eh, I'll stick with the images |
| 07:40.22 | Lancelot | I'd just like to know which one to get |
| 07:40.24 | Lancelot | there's 8 |
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| 07:42.33 | g0rd0n | uh i have no idea on that i'm afraid |
| 07:42.52 | [gnubie] | anybody knows if there is a way to partition the block devices in batch mode or non-interactive mode? |
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| 07:44.04 | dokaya | get the first DVD1 |
| 07:44.26 | dokaya | @Lancelot, if you have a good connection, why don't just download ISO ? |
| 07:44.36 | dokaya | then use internet for downloading the rest package that you need ? |
| 07:45.02 | Lancelot | I'm gonna try this out on virtualbox, and I don't know how well the internet will work with it |
| 07:45.09 | Lancelot | just in case something silly happens |
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| 07:45.26 | dokaya | hahaha. try DVD1 |
| 07:45.43 | dokaya | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/iso-dvd/debian-6.0.0-i386-DVD-1.iso => this on right ? |
| 07:45.47 | Azrael_- | [gnubie]: if you already know your partition-layout you can use sfdisk |
| 07:45.47 | Lancelot | dokaya, k. So which section is the netinstall one? |
| 07:45.49 | Lancelot | yes that one |
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| 07:46.26 | dokaya | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-netinst.iso => this one is the netinst right ? |
| 07:46.53 | [gnubie] | Azrael_-: i have my partition layout ready already |
| 07:46.58 | g0rd0n | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso this one is better :) |
| 07:47.02 | dokaya | @Lancelot, you can use the nearest mirror in your country |
| 07:47.34 | dokaya | @g0rd0n, yes, that one is better, but if he's using in virtualBox, which having 32bit OS as the host |
| 07:47.42 | dokaya | @g0rd0n, that's not possible right ? |
| 07:47.49 | dokaya | CMIIW |
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| 07:49.52 | spal | I've got a 64-bit libflashplayer.so from the Adobe website. Where do I need to place it on my Wheezy system? |
| 07:51.24 | nutron | ok i'm unclear how i set the keyboard layout via the command line in x... i've tried setxkbmap but don't know how to set it to qwerty eg please |
| 07:53.53 | Corin | Um... does anyone know how I'd go about installing MCC Interim Linux on my machine? |
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| 07:54.41 | Corin | TokRa: Your nick looks too much like a friend's. |
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| 07:55.37 | nutron | nvm I got it... I guess I should've figured that out before trying colemak :P |
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| 07:56.13 | nutron | I really felt like I was in grade 6 again... and with my blank keys... ohh my talk about figuring out the layout as fast as possible |
| 07:56.14 | TokRa | Corin: I believe we are not acquainted... yet |
| 07:56.15 | TokRa | ^_^ |
| 07:56.21 | Corin | No. |
| 07:56.25 | Corin | You're not my friend. |
| 07:56.30 | Corin | My friend's nick is torako. |
| 07:56.40 | TokRa | Corin: it comes from the Stargate series |
| 07:56.42 | Corin | Yours reminds me more of S-- |
| 07:56.44 | Corin | :P |
| 07:56.46 | Corin | Damn it. |
| 07:56.48 | Corin | Ninja'd. |
| 07:56.52 | TokRa | :D |
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| 07:57.22 | Corin | I know what the Tokra are. |
| 07:57.40 | Corin | Personally, I would've gone with... |
| 07:57.47 | Tok`ra | :P |
| 07:58.05 | TokRa | Tok`ra kree ! |
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| 07:58.50 | cashewnut | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 07:58.51 | cashewnut | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.51 | cashewnut | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 07:59.09 | cashewnut | Is what I get when I try to install something on my newly installed system |
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| 07:59.20 | nutron | eh who's the tokrA? |
| 07:59.54 | TokRa | nutron: a small alliance of rebel goaulds |
| 08:00.05 | TokRa | a fictional race from the Stargate Universe |
| 08:00.22 | TokRa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokra |
| 08:00.45 | cashewnut | Is what I get when I try to install something on my newly installed system Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 08:00.46 | cashewnut | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.47 | cashewnut | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 08:01.40 | nutron | cool, I haven't gotten into stargate the series, but I did watch the movie a few times. I recently (yesterday) told the pvr to start recording episodes. Waiting for the pilot to be replayed so I can see it from the beginning. |
| 08:01.57 | Corin | lol |
| 08:02.02 | Corin | nutron: What's pvr? |
| 08:02.09 | nutron | Mythtv |
| 08:02.18 | nutron | personal video recorder |
| 08:02.18 | Corin | Ah. |
| 08:02.27 | Corin | I see. |
| 08:02.33 | cashewnut | Hello? |
| 08:02.44 | Corin | I hate that the SG-1 pilot is never aired on tv... |
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| 08:02.53 | Corin | It's because of the full-frontal nudity. |
| 08:02.54 | TokRa | cashewnut: are you installing as root? |
| 08:03.00 | cashewnut | Yeah |
| 08:03.04 | nutron | Corin: oh really? crazy |
| 08:03.08 | Corin | Yeah. |
| 08:03.13 | nutron | it was made in Vancouver no? |
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| 08:03.20 | Corin | Most likely. |
| 08:03.49 | Corin | The pilot's the only part of the entire series with nudity. |
| 08:03.54 | nutron | Yeah, so sad that I never got into it though. I'm a geek, it just never appealed to me for some reason. The characters were all different, so I never gave it a chance. |
| 08:03.54 | Corin | lol |
| 08:04.31 | nutron | cashewnut: aptitude install desktop-base |
| 08:05.03 | nutron | try that, same error? or even reinstall I believe (sorry I'm tired) you're getting a 20% effort from me.. |
| 08:07.18 | Corin | Can anyone help me with MCC Interim Linux? |
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| 08:10.39 | nutron | Corin: so you want help with debian? |
| 08:10.46 | Corin | No. |
| 08:10.48 | Corin | MCC Interim Linux. |
| 08:11.02 | Corin | There's no channel for it... on any network I know about. |
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| 08:11.07 | nutron | That died didn't it? |
| 08:11.08 | Corin | I don't know where else to go. |
| 08:11.12 | Corin | Yes, it did. |
| 08:11.18 | Corin | In 1996, I believe. |
| 08:11.21 | Corin | Maybe earlier. |
| 08:11.41 | nutron | I only remember it by name, never used it :( |
| 08:11.48 | Internat | ok.. is there still a way to net install lenny"? |
| 08:11.50 | nutron | Just confirmed via wikipedia. |
| 08:12.10 | Corin | I just wanna install MCC Interim Linux. |
| 08:12.13 | Corin | :/ |
| 08:12.24 | Corin | I wouldn't begin to know where to set that up. lol |
| 08:12.27 | Corin | It's so old and all. |
| 08:12.35 | nutron | Even though it's completely unhelpful, can I ask why? |
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| 08:12.59 | Corin | I'd simply like to see how a distro without all the bulky GUI crap would run. :P |
| 08:13.18 | Corin | I figured the first distro would be the place to start. |
| 08:14.26 | kwork | Corin, you dont have to run ancient linux to see no-gui linux |
| 08:14.37 | Corin | kwork: But I want to. :P |
| 08:14.50 | kwork | have fun with it then |
| 08:15.12 | TokRa | 'd suggest Ctrl-Alt-F2 instead |
| 08:15.13 | TokRa | :) |
| 08:15.41 | kwork | Corin, i suggest you get hw from that time then aswell, otherwise you will never get it to work |
| 08:15.56 | Corin | Hmm |
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| 08:20.33 | hid3 | Hello everyone. Any ideas if I can give a destination file as an argument, not a whole directory? |
| 08:20.58 | peterrooney | hid3: for what command? |
| 08:21.25 | delby | hi. in the installation manual http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en in section D.3.2 there is a reference to a package 'ar'. i can't find it. is that suppose to be 'tar'? |
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| 08:23.05 | hid3 | peterrooney: nevermind, it looks like I've figured it myself. I just had specify the source file on rsync server and not on destination |
| 08:23.09 | peterrooney | delby: probably binutils also, install apt-file (and update it) |
| 08:23.49 | peterrooney | !search |
| 08:23.49 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <debtags>. |
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| 08:25.29 | chemistrydioxide | Can someone help me? Something is eating all of my CPU capacity and I can't see it with ps, ksysguard or htop. Does someone have an idea? |
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| 08:26.31 | peterrooney | chemistrydioxide: nice top; my personal favourite is ps -ef f |
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| 08:26.51 | uau | after latest updates opening URL links in gnome is broken - it starts epiphany if i try to view any HTTP URL |
| 08:27.20 | uau | i checked that no alternative points to epiphany, and iceweasel is set as web browser in the gnome "preferred applications" menu |
| 08:27.34 | uau | anyone else seeing this? |
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| 08:29.48 | nutron | Wonder why he never thought to give the debian archives a chance... MCC ... wow, old. |
| 08:30.20 | chemistrydioxide | have to go... |
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| 08:38.18 | ginet | nutron what is MCC |
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| 08:40.19 | JasonWoof | I think a new version of python-restkit broke couchapp. Do I file the bug against python-restkit or couchapp? (couchapp now fails with an error about not being able to import symbols from restkit) |
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| 08:40.45 | dfdfsdf | anyone knows why mysql 5.1 would not set the same system_time_zone as the shell TZ variable? i have time_zone set as SYSTEM in mysql |
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| 08:41.53 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: perhaps the TZ variable wasn't in mysql server's environment when it started |
| 08:42.07 | dfdfsdf | well i restarted |
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| 08:43.17 | dfdfsdf | i understand that you first set TZ to a timezone with tzconfig, then if time_zone is set to SYSTEM in mysql then system_time_zone should have the same val as TZ |
| 08:43.56 | dfdfsdf | i have TZ Europe/Madrid and mysql have EST |
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| 08:46.15 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: what do you get for: echo $TZ |
| 08:46.28 | dfdfsdf | i just said |
| 08:46.35 | JasonWoof | "Europe/Madrid"? |
| 08:46.38 | dfdfsdf | yep |
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| 08:47.25 | dfdfsdf | it's like 6 hours less then it should be in mysql |
| 08:47.43 | Arrowmaster | did you set it in your shell or system wide? |
| 08:47.54 | dfdfsdf | in shell using tzconfig |
| 08:47.56 | dfdfsdf | as root |
| 08:48.07 | dfdfsdf | i have it in .profile |
| 08:48.22 | Arrowmaster | well .profile isnt going to effect daemons |
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| 08:49.22 | dfdfsdf | hmm |
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| 08:49.33 | dfdfsdf | if i do this mysqld_safe --timezone="Europe/Madrid" |
| 08:49.41 | dfdfsdf | then it shows the correct time |
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| 08:50.24 | dfdfsdf | but mysqld still wrong |
| 08:50.29 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: the couple man pages I found on the net say that tzconfig just configure a link in /etc, and don't set any ENV vars |
| 08:50.59 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: put this in your /etc/init.d/mysql: echo "$TZ" |
| 08:51.16 | uau | i think there's other vfs or such breakage in current debian gnome besides it using iceweasel - pressing the "Help" button in various gnome dialogs shows "There was an error displaying help: The specified location is not supported" |
| 08:51.19 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: then do "/etc/init.d/mysql restart" and make sure it prints out right |
| 08:51.28 | uau | does that work for anyone else using current unstable? |
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| 08:52.53 | JasonWoof | I think a recent update (in sid) of python-restkit broke couchapp. Do I file the bug against python-restkit or couchapp? (couchapp now fails with an error about not being able to import symbols from restkit) |
| 08:53.13 | Sushiyant | I am getting this "Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem. Please file a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer." error when i useing *.mkv movies in totem |
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| 08:53.51 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, you mean to write that at the end of the mysql script? |
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| 08:54.41 | c0nfl|ct | bom dia mundo |
| 08:54.58 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, i get TZ: unbound variable |
| 08:55.07 | TokRa | Sushiyant: try switching to mplayer or vlc |
| 08:55.18 | [gnubie] | any idea how can i fix this? => http://www.pastie.org/1551981 |
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| 08:55.39 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, but in shell echo $TZ shows my correct timezone |
| 08:55.41 | Sushiyant | TokRa: in mplayer and vlc i can not use too :-( |
| 08:55.54 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: daemons don't start from your shell |
| 08:56.04 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, aaa so it's not running as root |
| 08:56.14 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, so it doesn't have the tz set right? |
| 08:56.46 | Sushiyant | TokRa: whan i use vlc to *.mkv i only get a green screen with sound of movie only |
| 08:57.15 | TokRa | Seems to me that required codecs are not installed |
| 08:57.18 | delby | peterrooney: sorry, was called away. i don't understand your advice |
| 08:57.30 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, i have an mysql user in /etc/passwd , is this running mysqld at startup ? how can i set TZ for that? |
| 08:58.25 | Sushiyant | TokRa: I installed all of codecs |
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| 08:58.43 | TokRa | gives up :( |
| 08:58.58 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, yep mysql user runs mysqld according to ps , how can i set tz for mysql user, or it's not done like that |
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| 08:59.25 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: I don't understand much about how shell environments get populated. The advice I've heard about cron jobs and init scripts and the like is "don't rely on env vars" |
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| 09:01.29 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: looks like you should be able to put "timezone = Europe/Madrid" in your /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 09:01.47 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, ok i'll try that |
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| 09:02.09 | JasonWoof | example I found shows it under [mysqld_safe] section |
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| 09:04.18 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, doesn't work, i added that at the end of my.cnf and restarted (no errors) but no joy |
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| 09:04.56 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, mysqld_safe shows time as expected if you run it with mysqld_safe --timezone=Europe/Madrid |
| 09:05.06 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, thing is how to get mysqld to do that |
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| 09:06.07 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: /etc/mysql/my.cnf has sections, you can't just add stuff at the bottom |
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| 09:07.03 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, i just changed /etc/timezone to Europe/Madrid since it was US/EST |
| 09:07.06 | lamah | how can i use Skype in debian/amd64 ? |
| 09:07.14 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, maybe restart needed |
| 09:07.34 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: that's what tzconfig is supposed to do. I thought you said you did that already |
| 09:07.42 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: restart is worth a try. I have no idea |
| 09:07.57 | JasonWoof | dfdfsdf: what time zone does "date" show? |
| 09:08.07 | dfdfsdf | CET |
| 09:08.30 | dfdfsdf | if i start mysqld_safe with the correct timezone shows the same value for time_zone |
| 09:08.32 | dfdfsdf | so |
| 09:08.36 | dfdfsdf | i just restart |
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| 09:12.54 | mutante | i currently have squeeze on a workstation, and i would like to get to this: 2 entries in grub, where one is the current system and the other is a copy of it which i have then upgraded to wheezy. hmm.... boot from live CD and just copy everything over to a separate partition? use the same /home and swap partition but separate / ? hmmm...thinking how to do it best |
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| 09:14.35 | JasonWoof | mutante: that could work. I wonder if it would be easy to boot into runlevel one with / mounted readonly |
| 09:14.42 | grand_grunt | is upgrading a Debian over ssh without physical access. pray for me. |
| 09:15.27 | JasonWoof | grand_grunt: you should be fine, assuming you're running screen |
| 09:16.16 | grand_grunt | JasonWoof: screen doesn't give garanties that reboot will be ok for new kernel |
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| 09:17.02 | JasonWoof | grand_grunt: no, but it should help the upgrade finish despite temporary network issues |
| 09:17.03 | mutante | grand_grunt: no remote access card either? like DRAC or something? |
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| 09:17.32 | JasonWoof | grand_grunt: I didn't mean to imply that it would definitely be ok, just that it should |
| 09:17.59 | grand_grunt | mutante: nope, the only remote access is a phone call to ask a noob for reboot |
| 09:18.15 | grand_grunt | Will see, this machine is not critical at all |
| 09:19.11 | mutante | grand_grunt: well, as long as the noob can tell you what the screen says if it should not boot.. |
| 09:19.16 | JasonWoof | I love my colo guy. I could probably get colo for less, but I love that there's no noobs involved. |
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| 09:20.39 | grand_grunt | mutante: huhu, the server doesn't have graphical card, neither screen, because there is no place in the box |
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| 09:22.43 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, you was right about my.cnf , timezone should be added to mysqld_safe section, now restarted and it works |
| 09:22.46 | dfdfsdf | JasonWoof, thanks |
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| 09:24.47 | mutante | grand_grunt: hrmm, console over serial connection ? shudder |
| 09:25.23 | mutante | grand_grunt: the chance for failure is slim though, i'd say. good luck |
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| 09:29.28 | JasonWoof | some colo facilities have a device you can ssh into and it'll connect your terminal to the serial connection on the server |
| 09:29.52 | JasonWoof | very cool solution for the server that won't boot and correctly enable/configure ethernet+sshd |
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| 09:39.10 | grand_grunt | :') |
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| 09:39.24 | grand_grunt | update, upgrade, reboot, waiting 2 minutes, ssh, it works. Debian FTW. |
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| 09:40.56 | grand_grunt | mutante: and, no, there is no console over serial.. |
| 09:41.08 | ROosy | hello |
| 09:41.23 | gerth | Which is the last version of mawk included in debian? |
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| 09:41.38 | onoez_omg | well, thats not actually a debian related question, but is there a way to make cron to run something from 12pm to 4 pm for example? |
| 09:41.57 | ROosy | have a problem, apt-get -s dist-upgrade, lenny to squeeze E: Conf Broken insserv |
| 09:42.06 | ROosy | is really a apt problem ? |
| 09:42.32 | fbs | gerth: maybe try the package list? |
| 09:42.32 | fbs | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mawk |
| 09:42.57 | sep | onoez_omg, cron deals with starting things on a schedule. if you want to run from-to. that means you start one thing at 12, and you start another thing at 4, that stops the first thing. |
| 09:43.33 | gerth | fbs: I don't have debian installed |
| 09:43.38 | onoez_omg | sep thx, i just thought there is another way =) |
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| 09:43.55 | gerth | but I had problems with mawk 1.3.3 in Ubuntu |
| 09:43.58 | zaarg | eh, i need a debian lenny iso |
| 09:44.08 | zaarg | can't find them on any of the mirrors :| |
| 09:44.46 | gerth | I found a site of a new maintainer of mawk, which solves all the problems I had with mawk 0.3.3 |
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| 09:44.54 | gerth | *1.3.3 |
| 09:45.06 | gerth | http://invisible-island.net/mawk/ |
| 09:45.45 | fircx | i need a non free firmware to install debian 6.0 i have downloaded non free firmwares from here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/squeeze/current/ |
| 09:45.50 | gerth | It includes debian patches too: http://invisible-island.net/mawk/CHANGES |
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| 09:46.04 | sep | onoez_omg, probably there is |
| 09:46.07 | fircx | and write on usb pen drive but debian cant detect it |
| 09:46.27 | fircx | why ? |
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| 09:47.56 | onoez_omg | sep, and may i put in in crontab smth like `ps aux|grep|cut|fuuu` as a command? |
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| 09:56.49 | Big_Brother | I need a fullscreen clock with an alarm. any suggestions? |
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| 09:57.23 | OpenTokix | Big_Brother: an actual clock? |
| 09:57.31 | OpenTokix | Big_Brother: Since it will not use crap loads of energy? |
| 09:57.32 | Iridos | hehe |
| 09:57.59 | Big_Brother | OpenTokix, one that runs from a terminal. |
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| 09:58.58 | Iridos | you can make any clock that runs in a window (nearly) fullscreen by maximizing the window |
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| 10:00.15 | Big_Brother | That still leaves suggestions of what clock program to get. |
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| 10:00.17 | Iridos | so, perhaps alarm-clock, wmclockmon |
| 10:00.22 | Iridos | ? |
| 10:00.31 | Iridos | Big_Brother, as of apt-cache search alarm clock |
| 10:00.43 | Big_Brother | wmclockmon is rather tiny. |
| 10:00.53 | joe6 | i am adding a new disk to my 1 disk raid1 to make it a 2-disk (more useful) raid. |
| 10:01.07 | joe6 | But, the new disk is smaller than the old disk on the radi. |
| 10:01.12 | joe6 | s/radi/raid/ |
| 10:01.31 | Big_Brother | Wat |
| 10:01.34 | Sevet | hi, does anyone have any guides on how to install mysql cluster 7.1 on debian squeeze from generic binary/source? i want it on there but it's no longer in an official package, and i want to be sure it won't conflict with the libmysqlclient package |
| 10:01.39 | joe6 | I will lose the disk size to the smaller one, but is it possible. |
| 10:01.42 | Big_Brother | A single HDD RAID? |
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| 10:03.51 | joe6 | Big_Brother: just to get the install done and now that I have the system running, I am ready to add a disk |
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| 10:04.24 | joe6 | can I add a disk with smaller size to the raid array? |
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| 10:05.55 | joe6 | mdadm /dev/md0 -a /dev/sda2 |
| 10:06.11 | joe6 | can I do that if the new disk partition is /dev/sda2? |
| 10:06.20 | Iridos | Big_Brother, hm, you're right... they're both not fitting your description... dclock does, though... |
| 10:06.42 | Iridos | Big_Brother, what I don't see are any of the world clock that are commonly seen on smartphones running linux |
| 10:06.53 | Big_Brother | Joe6, there never was an array with only diskk in there. |
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| 10:08.34 | DelphiWorld | hello guys |
| 10:08.53 | DelphiWorld | any debian based build for embedded machines? |
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| 10:09.01 | joe6 | Big_Brother: yes, that's correct. |
| 10:09.44 | Iridos | DelphiWorld, emdebian? |
| 10:09.55 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: checking :-à |
| 10:09.58 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: checking :-) |
| 10:10.31 | DelphiWorld | IRCRoverr: is recomanded? |
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| 10:11.03 | Iridos | !tell DelphiWorld -about emdebian |
| 10:11.10 | DelphiWorld | IRCRoverr: lol |
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| 10:11.28 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 10:11.34 | DelphiWorld | IRCRoverr: now i totaly agree |
| 10:11.42 | DelphiWorld | IRCRoverr: cause is official sub project |
| 10:11.51 | Iridos | he's talking to ghosts |
| 10:11.54 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: :) |
| 10:11.58 | Iridos | or I have an ignore list which I don't have |
| 10:11.59 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: that was for you not for IRCRoverr |
| 10:12.06 | Iridos | :) |
| 10:12.30 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: you say he's talking to ghosts ... who? |
| 10:12.52 | Iridos | YOU were talking with IRCRoverr ... and he seemed to talk back to you |
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| 10:13.05 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: but was to you :-) |
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| 10:13.13 | simonrvn | he wasn't |
| 10:13.25 | Iridos | seemingly talking* |
| 10:13.41 | DelphiWorld | simon_q: you helped me last week... i did forgot what'ds the subject! |
| 10:13.44 | Iridos | anyway |
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| 10:14.44 | DelphiWorld | while there is no traffic here i can talk happyly |
| 10:14.55 | DelphiWorld | but if there is lot of traffic... while be upset :-) |
| 10:15.28 | Iridos | DelphiWorld, Maemo is also based on Debian but has a lot of proprietary parts and so I think you can mainly/only buy it together with some nokia devices |
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| 10:15.51 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: i don't need the shitty nokia stufs except of one loved library |
| 10:15.59 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: maemo pissed me off |
| 10:16.10 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: nokia think only about itself and didn't think about blind people like i am |
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| 10:16.37 | Iridos | ha |
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| 10:16.47 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: no joke is the trute |
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| 10:17.16 | DelphiWorld | i am debootstraping emdebian, Iridos. |
| 10:17.38 | Iridos | I don't think that's true as such... there's just a lot of stuff that is far from working as well as it should |
| 10:18.02 | Iridos | and anyway now they merged the project with... forgotthename and now it's meego |
| 10:18.06 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: you have your eyes right? |
| 10:18.14 | Iridos | but we're slipping offtopic |
| 10:18.19 | DelphiWorld | lol Iridos |
| 10:18.32 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: i did buy a n900 happyly |
| 10:18.46 | Iridos | yes... and I didn't say it was as bad as you say, because I can't judge, but I doubt it was intentional |
| 10:18.51 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: in functioning was pretty cool but no tts, no screen reader, no brail support, nothing of nothing |
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| 10:21.08 | funabash1 | hello i bought a vps server with OpenVZ. ist possible then to encrypt my homedir? |
| 10:21.43 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: if i debootstrap a system |
| 10:21.54 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: how do i create a .img file that can be dd to a cf? |
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| 10:23.35 | Iridos | cf? And I'm the wrong one to ask... I never used debootstrap yet |
| 10:24.10 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: cf===compact flash |
| 10:24.27 | simonrvn | DelphiWorld: they have instructions on their web site (emdebian) |
| 10:24.28 | fircx | how can i quite debian installation process |
| 10:24.40 | twofish | is there a way to send a running X program to another X display while it's running |
| 10:24.48 | simonrvn | fircx: reboot the machine |
| 10:24.56 | DelphiWorld | simonrvn: i debootstraped it only and tared it, but no step to make it bootable or ... |
| 10:25.07 | fircx | i wanted based system for server and instead of space key i pressed enter and standard desktop system is installing now |
| 10:25.22 | simonrvn | reboot it fircx |
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| 10:25.37 | fircx | Okay |
| 10:25.57 | nkuttler | fircx: well, you don't have to reboot, but then you'll have to clean up manually.. |
| 10:26.15 | fircx | how ? |
| 10:26.17 | twofish | say, for instance, I have a two headed box but I do not want to use xinerama or twinview - I want to keep them as two separate X displays |
| 10:26.29 | nkuttler | fircx: rebooting is probably faster for you |
| 10:26.39 | twofish | is there a way I can "send" a running program to another X display |
| 10:27.13 | tef_ | twofish: drag it on there, if you have these little icons of your workspaces. or do you mean to another screen? |
| 10:27.15 | Iridos | twofish, as far as I know: no (there is some type of X proxy, though, which might produce a similar effect) |
| 10:28.13 | simonrvn | it'll stop it.. yes it's messy. but i figure re-doing the partitions will do the "clean up" |
| 10:28.28 | twofish | tef_ I mean to another screen which is a separate X screen, Iridos hmm |
| 10:28.30 | simonrvn | (if there's no partitions to save, like /home) |
| 10:28.33 | tef_ | ah, clearly I don't understand what this is about;) |
| 10:28.45 | simonrvn | DelphiWorld: like i said, they have docs |
| 10:28.55 | DelphiWorld | simonrvn: i'm seeking... |
| 10:29.53 | Iridos | twofish, but I never used that, only remember reading something along the lines |
| 10:30.00 | simonrvn | emdebian.org |
| 10:30.03 | fircx | okay i have already rebooted |
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| 10:31.29 | twofish | well it seems I have quite the quandary - it mostly has to do with how gnome-panel and gnome-workspace-switcher deal with extended displays using xinerama and/or twinview |
| 10:31.30 | jeybop | Hi |
| 10:31.46 | jeybop | I have a problem with fonts in iceweasel |
| 10:31.52 | simonrvn | !xrandr |
| 10:31.52 | dpkg | rumour has it, xrandr is a command-line interface to the <RandR> extension; used to set the screen size, orientation and/or reflection. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
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| 10:32.37 | jeybop | some fonts look terrible. I installed Font Finder plugin to see what are these fonts, and it seems to be related to arial fonts. |
| 10:32.48 | jeybop | I don't know where to start |
| 10:33.00 | twofish | that is - they treat the entire desktop like one massive display for purposes of displaying things in the window selector and the workspace switcher |
| 10:33.29 | Iridos | twofish, I always wondered how you were supposed to have a dual-display with two different graphics cards, where you can't help but have two separate X servers |
| 10:33.58 | twofish | BUT - in an interesting twist - the window selector does detect which windows are on the same display as the panel which has that window selector |
| 10:34.32 | twofish | Iridos this is a good point, someone has to have solved this and I will probably look into multi-graphics cards solutions to see what they do |
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| 10:35.30 | twofish | but anyways, what happens, is the display's gnome-panels can become "out of sync" if I switch workspaces on one but not the other |
| 10:35.33 | Iridos | twofish, I dunno if anyone ever solved this... I suspect that the basic design of the xwindow protocol prevents it... |
| 10:35.34 | twofish | quite bothersome |
| 10:35.45 | twofish | that is also very possible :( |
| 10:35.54 | Iridos | what does "out of sync" look like? |
| 10:36.02 | simonrvn | could be a gnome-panel limitation |
| 10:36.04 | Iridos | twofish, did you check the bts for your problem? |
| 10:36.04 | twofish | BUT you do frequently see people with 4+ displays |
| 10:36.45 | twofish | Iridos yes and it seems to be largely ignored, I believe one of the devs said something to the effect of it's a deep arch problem and "what would you have done" |
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| 10:38.43 | lamah | how can i use for "cyr" screen font latcyrheb-sun16.psf ? |
| 10:38.46 | twofish | Iridos out of sync looks like I switch workspaces and the applications that are running on one screen are reflected accurately in that screen's gnome-panel window selector, while the applications running in the other screen are no longer - let me explain it better |
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| 10:39.08 | simonrvn | lamah: that's a whole font |
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| 10:39.16 | Iridos | twofish, the graphics card in this computer has one vga-style connector, one dvi, one hdmi and so would at least allow for 3 monitors to be connected... if it had another hdmi outlet, you could connect four monitors... |
| 10:39.24 | lamah | simonrvn: i can't ? |
| 10:39.42 | simonrvn | lamah: you use it by typing in those characters |
| 10:39.59 | twofish | Iridos well in that case I have seen people (mostly tiling WM types) running 8+ displays |
| 10:40.10 | Iridos | twofish, the kindof vexing thing is, I think dual-head with two graphics cards is possible with windows |
| 10:40.28 | lamah | simonrvn: i mean i want to use, the default system font from by console i think is that latcyrheb-sun16.psf for console-cyrillic "cyr" ? |
| 10:40.34 | twofish | Iridos oh it's quite simple in windows, sadly |
| 10:40.54 | lamah | simonrvn: i don't want a default console-cyrillic font |
| 10:41.24 | simonrvn | it's not only cyrillic, it also contains other tables |
| 10:41.43 | lamah | simonrvn: i see that style ter-uni-bold in config file |
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| 10:42.03 | simonrvn | so pick one =) |
| 10:42.06 | lamah | simonrvn: how ? |
| 10:42.09 | lamah | simonrvn: how to change it |
| 10:43.00 | gerth | mawk bug report for version 1.33 (+ fix): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mawk/+bug/716920 |
| 10:43.10 | Iridos | twofish, ah, that must be it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xdmx |
| 10:44.12 | simonrvn | sec, trying to find the package |
| 10:44.16 | jelly | lamah: what's your native language? |
| 10:44.22 | lamah | jelly: bg |
| 10:44.37 | lamah | jelly: what is a command for console setup/cyr |
| 10:44.44 | jelly | lamah: there's nothing wrong with that choice of console font, then |
| 10:44.56 | twofish | Iridos yes that looks promising, perhaps |
| 10:45.34 | twofish | looking around, xinerama can actually consolidate multiple graphics cards |
| 10:45.36 | lamah | jelly: i can't view bg sites |
| 10:45.42 | jelly | lamah: I don't know what's the correct way to make a permanent change. To change it right away, use setfont or consolechars, depending on whether kbd or console-tools is installed |
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| 10:46.14 | cast | evening |
| 10:46.20 | simonrvn | lamah: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
| 10:46.30 | lamah | simonrvn: oh yes i remember that :) |
| 10:46.33 | twofish | but the problem is I don't /want/ to consolodate them into a single X display, I want two separate displays with some kind of ability to "throw" applications from one screen to the other |
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| 10:46.51 | twofish | I'll see if xdmx does that though, thanks |
| 10:47.19 | simonrvn | though it's rather simplistic, in that it doesn't let you pick another font (bug?) |
| 10:47.21 | jelly | twofish: you can't move X11 windows between different displays. |
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| 10:47.31 | twofish | alas... |
| 10:47.57 | Iridos | twofish, there are two howtos for debian, but the first one is for etch, the 2nd one mentions knoppix 4 |
| 10:47.57 | RLa | for offline installation i need all 52 CD's? |
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| 10:48.03 | AlexC_ | morning |
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| 10:48.07 | cast | RLa: nope. |
| 10:48.09 | lamah | simonrvn: thanks :) |
| 10:48.09 | AlexC_ | how can I set a grub2 password in Squeeze? |
| 10:48.24 | simonrvn | i'd like to be able to use terminus, for instance. np. |
| 10:48.41 | jelly | twofish: what's wrong with having a single DISPLAY spanning multiple output devices? |
| 10:48.57 | RLa | blue ray images would be nice, or just some oversized images to attach onto vm for installation |
| 10:48.57 | twofish | well seeing as how the gnome people have already said they aren't going to fix the problem with gnome-panel because only crazy people who run tiling WM's in conjunction with gnome OR want to have separte workspace switchers for each screen care - and because it's apparently a hard problem |
| 10:49.08 | twofish | I'll probably go back to using Awesome WM pure |
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| 10:49.47 | simonrvn | RLa: no. there's dvds too |
| 10:49.58 | RLa | nice, just found them |
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| 10:50.16 | simonrvn | who mentioned blue ray the other day? i think it was you jelly, actually. |
| 10:50.32 | RLa | is there a list of packages and info which dvd's contain what packages |
| 10:50.42 | simonrvn | !cd contents |
| 10:50.43 | dpkg | To find out what is on what disk, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ (e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/list-cd/). |
| 10:50.43 | giles | when I shutdown my squeeze machine it locks unmounting local file systems, how can I diagnose this problem? |
| 10:50.45 | jelly | simonrvn: I'd never |
| 10:50.54 | simonrvn | dunno if there's one for the dvds |
| 10:51.04 | RLa | for non-burning purpose i think very large dvd images could be created |
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| 10:51.09 | simonrvn | someone here did, i don't recall who |
| 10:51.25 | simonrvn | giles: install acpid ? |
| 10:51.37 | giles | simonrvn: really? |
| 10:52.25 | giles | simonrvn: I meant reboot actually. |
| 10:52.25 | Rovanion | After changing permissions on a folder with: chmod 644 - the owner is unable to enter that folder. How come? I thought having read permissions would allow the user to read folders? |
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| 10:52.40 | nkuttler | Rovanion: no |
| 10:52.55 | simonrvn | giles: it'll help |
| 10:52.55 | cast | Rovanion: one needs +x |
| 10:53.10 | Rovanion | cast: Isn't +x execute? |
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| 10:53.26 | giles | simonrvn: no it made no difference. |
| 10:53.27 | llutz | Rovanion: files 644 is folders 755 |
| 10:53.47 | giles | simonrvn: its just stuck on "Unmounting local filesystems..." |
| 10:53.50 | simonrvn | giles: did you try rebooting? |
| 10:54.10 | giles | thats where it got stuck! |
| 10:54.22 | nkuttler | giles: which local filesystem? |
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| 10:54.29 | simonrvn | um, did you install it? |
| 10:54.29 | Rovanion | llutz: Ha, well is there a reliable way to recursively chmod all the contents of a folder so that folders gets 755 and files gets 644? |
| 10:54.39 | giles | nkuttler: I don't know how to find out, that was my question |
| 10:54.49 | nkuttler | giles: well, do you have a shell? |
| 10:54.55 | giles | nkuttler: yes |
| 10:55.02 | nkuttler | giles: then unmount the partitions manually |
| 10:55.13 | nkuttler | giles: maybe ps will show you a running umount as well |
| 10:55.21 | simonrvn | Rovanion: find + xargs |
| 10:55.41 | Rovanion | simonrvn: Hu? |
| 10:56.07 | nkuttler | Rovanion: man find, man xargs |
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| 10:56.32 | cast | Rovanion: man chmod, see the +X |
| 10:56.33 | simonrvn | find foodir -type f | xargs chmod 141761374 |
| 10:56.55 | cast | really, +X kicks much ass :) |
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| 10:57.31 | simonrvn | always wondered why +X never did anything |
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| 10:57.55 | llutz | Rovanion: find /folder/ -type f -exec chmod 644 {} + && chown -R +X /folder/ |
| 10:57.55 | llutz | Rovanion: +X = uppercase X, important |
| 10:57.56 | llutz | chmod-R +X sry |
| 10:58.10 | llutz | simonrvn: man chmod |
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| 10:58.49 | Rovanion | Thank for the help all! |
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| 10:59.49 | cast | llutz: wouldn't the much simpler chmod -R 644 ... ; chmod -R +X ...? |
| 10:59.56 | cast | [do the same thing] |
| 11:00.07 | giles | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/xsfNTzWy |
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| 11:00.28 | llutz | cast: now as you ask... probably... |
| 11:00.33 | giles | nkuttler: how can I run ps while rebooting/shutting down? |
| 11:00.54 | Rovanion | cast: Wouldn't that put +X on both files and folders? |
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| 11:01.13 | redguy | is there a "Debian Way" to use cgroups ? |
| 11:01.16 | giles | simonrvn: I did install acpid |
| 11:01.36 | giles | it said starting acpi daemon too |
| 11:01.50 | simonrvn | cast: sweet |
| 11:01.54 | cast | Rovanion: i guess you didn't read the man page huh :( |
| 11:02.16 | uoods | reading is hard! |
| 11:02.32 | simonrvn | it's not in the man page, like most gnu utils commands |
| 11:02.34 | aguitel | anyway to add in sources.list kernel experimental ? |
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| 11:02.44 | simonrvn | it's in the frickin' info pages |
| 11:02.44 | llutz | simonrvn: it is in the man-page |
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| 11:02.53 | simonrvn | 27.2.4 Conditional Executability |
| 11:02.54 | Rovanion | cast: To little time inbetween the chat messages, but I'm sensing that +X only affects folders :P |
| 11:03.04 | simonrvn | File: coreutils.info, Node: Conditional Executability |
| 11:03.07 | Rovanion | I really got to learn to read faster |
| 11:03.09 | cast | simonrvn: "execute/search only if the file is a directory or already has execute permission for some user (X)" is in man chmod for me |
| 11:03.17 | uoods | Rovanion: you're right, it only deletes folders |
| 11:03.20 | c3l | why isnt any java jre installed as default? or am I missing something, I had to install openjdk-6-jre manually |
| 11:03.25 | simonrvn | ok, sec, checking |
| 11:03.35 | cast | [squeeze] |
| 11:03.46 | Rovanion | uoods: Well pardon my english then |
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| 11:04.09 | llutz | [sid] too |
| 11:04.44 | simonrvn | ok, found it. 4th para down... it's laid out really badly |
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| 11:05.38 | simonrvn | Rovanion: it affects dirs and files that already had exec set |
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| 11:06.21 | AlexC_ | with 'nfs4_setfacl' it is *really* annoying have to specify the domain, e.g. why can't I do `nfs4_setfacl -a A:g:www-data:RX foobar` instead of `nfs4_setfacl -a A:g:www-data@nas.cluster:RX foobar` ? |
| 11:06.25 | Rovanion | simonrvn: Thank you for taking your time, I appreciate it |
| 11:06.33 | simonrvn | giles: ok. then it's some other issue then. beats me. check your syslog perhaps for a start. |
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| 11:08.10 | simonrvn | thanks people for pointing it out. i have a hard time reading large block of text like that sometimes. |
| 11:08.39 | giles | simonrvn: nkuttler: Figured it out there were so block devices /dev/nbd0 /dev/nbd1 that were mounted |
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| 11:09.08 | uoods | simonrvn: I find that using most as a color pager for man pages make them much more readable |
| 11:09.17 | giles | simonrvn: nkuttler: now I need to work out a way to make those devices automatically unmount. |
| 11:09.24 | simonrvn | ah. those should have been unmounted during the network fs script call |
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| 11:09.42 | simonrvn | uoods: it does help |
| 11:09.54 | giles | simonrvn: which is where? |
| 11:09.55 | Pr370r1an1n | g |
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| 11:10.33 | simonrvn | /etc/init.d - i think it also checks for nbd |
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| 11:12.10 | giles | simonrvn: /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh |
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| 11:13.34 | zhaozhou | I need the executable 'ar', what's the package named? |
| 11:14.14 | streuner | judd, file /bin/ar |
| 11:14.20 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 11:14.38 | streuner | judd, file /usr/bin/ar |
| 11:14.44 | judd | /usr/bin/ar in squeeze/i386: binutils: usr/bin/ar; binutils-multiarch: usr/bin/ar |
| 11:14.56 | zhaozhou | Thanks. :) |
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| 11:17.22 | RLa | what qualify as Standard system utilities? |
| 11:17.52 | RLa | are these cp, ls etc. such essentials? |
| 11:18.00 | grand_grunt | Yes |
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| 11:18.20 | lamah | ÑеÑÑ |
| 11:18.21 | lamah | test |
| 11:18.29 | RLa | i wonder why would installer let me choose whether i want these or not |
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| 11:18.37 | Iridos | RLa, probably the stuff in coreutils |
| 11:18.38 | grand_grunt | They are tools that make your Linux allmost unusable if you delete them |
| 11:18.40 | lamah | how can i view which /dev/'sdbX' is SWAP ? |
| 11:18.54 | RLa | grand_grunt, that's why the question |
| 11:18.55 | lamah | i can't open my partitions with cfdisk /dev/sdb |
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| 11:19.03 | lamah | to check what is what... |
| 11:19.05 | grand_grunt | lamah: cat /etc/fstab | grep swap |
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| 11:19.48 | grand_grunt | RLa: the installer let you choose that because you asked for expert install, and expert do know what are Stadnard system utilities. |
| 11:19.50 | lamah | grand_grunt: why cfdisk /dev/sdb cannot open my partitions ? |
| 11:19.50 | Iridos | RLa, no, it wouldn't as you wouldn't even be able to boot... the package is Essential: yes Priority: required |
| 11:20.33 | RLa | oh |
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| 11:22.20 | lamah | why 'cfdisk /dev/sdb' cannot open my partitions? |
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| 11:23.45 | AlexC_ | I've got 2 clients that have a mounted NFSv4 share, they are both displaying different things from a 'ls -la' output, what could be causing this? |
| 11:23.51 | mongrol | use fdisk |
| 11:24.03 | AlexC_ | one of them seems to be displaying old files that have since been deleted |
| 11:24.07 | simonrvn | !uuoc grand_grunt |
| 11:24.07 | dpkg | hands grand_grunt the "useless use of cat" award |
| 11:24.49 | Iridos | lamah, cfdisk is rather... picky and calls some valid partition tables invalid |
| 11:25.12 | simonrvn | s,picky,buggy, |
| 11:25.23 | Iridos | simonrvn, be nice! |
| 11:25.29 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 11:27.05 | lamah | Iridos: ok.. how can i VIEW my partitions |
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| 11:27.08 | cast | AlexC_: is it somewhat obvious if i say..."caching" |
| 11:27.34 | lamah | Iridos: like fdisk -l but i want in GB |
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| 11:27.50 | Iridos | pocket calculator? |
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| 11:28.27 | lamah | Iridos: ok |
| 11:28.33 | AlexC_ | cast: sure but that's really not what I want. How can I at least reduce this cache time to something more sensible for me? |
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| 11:29.23 | AlexC_ | actually, I've solved it - nevermind thank you though |
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| 11:29.30 | lamah | Iridos: how? |
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| 11:30.00 | giles | simonrvn: I think I know the problem, in my fstab those nbd devices have _fstab option which the script should detect and then umount that device |
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| 11:30.15 | cast | AlexC_: oh, how did you solve it? with -o ac*max=? |
| 11:30.24 | giles | simonrvn: however it uses /etc/mtab, and those options don't appear in mtab |
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| 11:32.14 | lamah | Iridos: do you know? |
| 11:32.52 | Iridos | lamah, or gparted? |
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| 11:33.07 | lamah | Iridos: i want to see my size of my partitions in GB |
| 11:33.35 | AlexC_ | cast: no ... it was a fail moment. It wasn't actually mounted but there were older files in the local /srv/www on the server that was showing inconsistencies :P |
| 11:34.12 | cast | hah. i see. |
| 11:34.17 | AlexC_ | yeah ^^ |
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| 11:36.24 | RLa | why is exim installed by default? |
| 11:36.50 | cast | unixy systems like to be able to mail |
| 11:37.02 | cast | even if it is only localhost |
| 11:38.34 | simonrvn | giles: makes sense |
| 11:38.58 | giles | simonrvn: but I don't know how to fix it. |
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| 11:41.23 | simonrvn | giles: /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh has some FSes; you could file a bug on that, and ask them to support NBD. in the mean time, you could try adding nbd to the list. |
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| 11:41.35 | lamah | i have 3 swaps by installations, why ?! |
| 11:41.45 | lamah | i have others OS's :) |
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| 11:42.34 | lamah | how can i stop it, commented it only on /etc/fstab ? |
| 11:42.36 | cast | has 0 swaps |
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| 11:43.37 | giles | simonrvn: so I have modified umountnfs.sh, now but I want to use the original as a reference, I can't find the package it belongs to. |
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| 11:46.53 | simonrvn | giles: initscripts package |
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| 11:47.29 | deno | hi there |
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| 11:47.34 | deno | I'm modifying the Makefile.am of a project but even if I modify completely, if I execute make it compiles always the old things |
| 11:47.38 | giles | simonrvn: okay, the other thing it checks is $FSTYPE in my case its gfs2, but the script only checks for gfs |
| 11:47.41 | deno | it's like the Makefile is not modified |
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| 11:52.50 | giles | Is there a way I can just restore a single file from a debian package using apt-get? |
| 11:53.11 | simonrvn | giles: might as well as add that too. i seriously suggest you file a bug on this. |
| 11:53.30 | giles | yes looks broken |
| 11:53.32 | simonrvn | download only, then unpack it with -x |
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| 11:53.51 | giles | simonrvn: just want a simple way to restore it to original so I can suggest a clean patch. |
| 11:53.57 | simonrvn | aptitude download foo; dpkg -x foo.deb /tmp |
| 11:54.06 | giles | right |
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| 11:54.13 | simonrvn | download option dls to . |
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| 11:56.59 | saivinoba | i'm trying to ssh to my other pc. but i get 'No route to host' error. |
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| 11:57.41 | saivinoba | am on debian and my other pc has fedora. i can ssh to this debian-pc from fedora-pc. |
| 11:58.52 | Iridos | /sbin/route -n # you didn't configure the router or the local network correctly |
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| 11:59.28 | superlinux | how can I merge many pictures in one? |
| 11:59.55 | Iridos | man convert? |
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| 12:01.31 | saivinoba | Iridos: the output of the command has a line like: "0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0" which is my router. |
| 12:01.46 | superlinux | ok |
| 12:01.48 | superlinux | fine |
| 12:01.49 | giles | simonrvn: why would /etc/mtab not have the _netdev option? |
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| 12:02.52 | Iridos | superlinux, there's two separate commands for joining horizontally and vertically and they're not totally obvious to find |
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| 12:03.33 | giles | simonrvn: GAR now the shutdown is hanging on "Saving the system clock" |
| 12:03.39 | superlinux | Iridos, ok |
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| 12:05.15 | Iridos | superlinux, seems there's a separate "montage" command now (and all this is part of imagemagick) |
| 12:05.38 | superlinux | ah ok |
| 12:05.40 | superlinux | thanks |
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| 12:08.43 | simonrvn | giles: linux /etc/mtab is pretty lame |
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| 12:09.26 | [gnubie] | waves.. gtg now.. thanks.. ;) |
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| 12:10.44 | Iridos | saivinoba, there should be at least be a 2nd one for your local net... like 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 2 0 0 eth0 |
| 12:11.01 | Guest49503 | Hello, Iam searching for some network tool on linux that could take a pcap file and analyze it to match network packets for layer 7 to match DNS requests and DNS responses. I hope to discover requests with missing responses ... Would anyone know about such a tool on debian? |
| 12:11.53 | Iridos | perhaps wireshark? |
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| 12:12.36 | Guest49503 | Iridos: I know wireshark, but I do not think it could handle this (the request-response analysis) Or does it? |
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| 12:13.23 | ajikeshi | dns was udp, right? |
| 12:13.27 | Iridos | you could use filters and it gives you this multi-colored output? |
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| 12:14.25 | Iridos | I can't think of anything that would as far as looking what answer belongs to what query |
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| 12:18.18 | supastuff | hi everyone. I just did a dist-upgrade and my openoffice broke, it says: openoffice.org-writer : Depends: openoffice.org-core (= 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny11) but it is not going to be installed |
| 12:18.21 | supastuff | how should I fix it? |
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| 12:19.31 | Iridos | you dist-upgraded to do what? |
| 12:20.09 | supastuff | what do you mean to do what? |
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| 12:20.34 | Iridos | upgrade to the latest lenny or upgrade lenny->squeeze |
| 12:20.43 | supastuff | I just ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 12:20.48 | JyZyXEL | how do you remove a package so that all the configs are removed too? |
| 12:20.52 | superlinux | Iridos, bro thanks. the command is : montage -adjoin pic-1.jpeg ... pic-NNN.jpeg merger-pic.jpeg |
| 12:20.57 | supastuff | JyZyXEL: dpkg --purge packagename |
| 12:21.09 | JyZyXEL | that doesn't remove config files |
| 12:21.10 | supastuff | Iridos: I didn't make any apt.conf changes |
| 12:21.37 | Iridos | supastuff, but squeeze released to be the new stable on February 6th (note topic) |
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| 12:21.51 | supastuff | Iridos: ok, so what am I missing? |
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| 12:22.13 | Iridos | supastuff, dunno, as I don't know what you were doing... what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like? |
| 12:22.20 | Iridos | (use a pastebin) |
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| 12:23.20 | Iridos | you might also add the output of apt-cache policy |
| 12:23.28 | supastuff | http://pastie.org/1552493 |
| 12:23.28 | Iridos | but I hate reading that :( |
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| 12:23.45 | Guest49503 | Iridos: well, wireshark is nice to examine few packets, but I am facing now possible problem of loosing several tens packets out of thousands on a Gbit network (well loaded) => huge pcap files. This is probably not for wireshark but tshark. But even with thskark I do not know how to cope. |
| 12:24.00 | supastuff | policy: http://pastie.org/1552495 |
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| 12:24.30 | ATIM3 | I've got a Dell Latitude C600 laptop which has ATI M3 graphics. I installed Squeeze and the installation was successful and the machine rebooted. Everything looked good until GDM starts but all I am left is a black screen and the laptop locks completely. |
| 12:24.46 | ATIM3 | The issue has been reported: http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/440355-squeeze-cant-handle-ati-m3s-anymore-x11-issue.html |
| 12:25.08 | Iridos | oh dear |
| 12:25.35 | ATIM3 | But how can a desktop newbie overcome this issue? |
| 12:25.36 | supastuff | Iridos: my sources.list has 'unstable' for all lines and it has been so for a long time. I didn't change this now. |
| 12:25.47 | abrotman | ATIM3: did you try a VESA driver? |
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| 12:26.10 | supastuff | ATIM3: you should start by preventing X from starting at startup, to allow you to manually figure out what is going on, step by step |
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| 12:27.50 | ATIM3 | sorry guys but i am a desktop newbie and do not understand what you say. can you give me detailed instructions please? |
| 12:27.56 | Iridos | supastuff, not as such, ok several things. you are mainly tracking unstable, which you shouldn't do if you don't know how to fix stuff, as unstable breaks all the time. You also have security.debian.org and volatile tracking lenny packages which are now oldstable and so several releases apart from unstable. You also shouldn't mix stable with testing/unstable, as that frequently breaks stuff |
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| 12:29.31 | supastuff | over the years I encountered little I could fix, but apt magic is really not my specialty and I do indeed have issues when apt related stuff breaks, such as dependencies |
| 12:29.55 | rhada | is there a howto for building latest wine on squeese 64 |
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| 12:30.36 | supastuff | Iridos: what are the correct source lines for security and volatile for unstable? |
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| 12:31.14 | Iridos | supastuff, as for the current problem - you obviously still have openoffice packages from lenny (oldstable), but don't have the lenny main repository, neither squeeze, but only unstable... it's no big wonder dependencies can't be fulfilled |
| 12:32.25 | Iridos | supastuff, there are none for unstable... unstable is by definition itself volatile and ever-changing and it doesn't get separate security fixes, it usually gets security fixes when upstream releases them together with a new version |
| 12:32.35 | ATIM3 | supastuff, abrotman: sorry guys but i am a desktop newbie and do not understand what you say. can you give me detailed instructions please? |
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| 12:33.08 | Iridos | !tell supastuff -about unstable |
| 12:33.11 | supastuff | Iridos: then what should I use for security and volatile to be very recent? |
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| 12:33.34 | Iridos | I don't understand that |
| 12:33.50 | supastuff | what should my source.list lines be for volatile and security? |
| 12:34.32 | ATIM3 | The issue has been reported and the problem does not have a newbie friendly solution : http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/440355-squeeze-cant-handle-ati-m3s-anymore-x11-issue.html |
| 12:34.44 | onoez_omg | sorry for not a debian-related question and for my english, is there any typical problems that appear while using snort ids? |
| 12:35.02 | g0rd0n | i have serious problems with a debian 6.0 machine, which i installed in december and now wanted to apt-get upgrade. i get a bunch of errors and upgrade fails. see: http://pastebin.com/ej7d3pt7 what can i do to fix this situation? |
| 12:35.17 | rhada | is there a howto for building latest wine on lenny |
| 12:35.18 | rhada | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.24 | supastuff | ATIM3: sorry, can't help |
| 12:35.40 | Iridos | supastuff, if you track unstable, nothing |
| 12:35.42 | simonrvn | supastuff: security and volatile are for stable only |
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| 12:36.03 | ATIM3 | supasstuff: you can't help because there is no solution? |
| 12:36.04 | Iridos | supastuff, but you shouldn't track unstable because it breaks all the time |
| 12:36.04 | supastuff | so I should remove those lines from my sources.list? |
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| 12:36.33 | supastuff | how can I go from my current situation to the latest, non unstable, stuff |
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| 12:37.17 | Iridos | supastuff, that depends on what packages you already have from unstable... there are no safe ways to mass-downgrade packages - i.e. downgrades are not supported by apt |
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| 12:37.38 | jlenormand | hello |
| 12:37.50 | jlenormand | how do I get emacs to inherit all the variables from the shell in which I'm calling it |
| 12:37.56 | supastuff | I probably have everything, since my sources.list has been the same for years |
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| 12:38.21 | Iridos | supastuff, and dunno how to resolve the current dependencies... adding lenny main probably resolves _this_ problem, but depending on what mix of packages you have right now, there might be many more |
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| 12:39.28 | jlenormand | or, rather, how do I export my while environment? |
| 12:39.58 | Iridos | supastuff, actually this is maybe not too hard to resolve, as openoffice isn't so crucial and so you can just remove it for now... and install it back in later |
| 12:40.15 | Iridos | supastuff, you might want to install apt-show-versions and see what repository your packages are from |
| 12:40.49 | quuxman | So I just learned about cydia, which sounds like an awesome project. I have a non-jail-broken Ipod Touch 2nd Generation (A1288), and a normal Debian laptop... any tips? |
| 12:40.56 | supastuff | ok I installed and ran it |
| 12:41.03 | jlenormand | like set -a | source |
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| 12:41.19 | ATIM3 | are there any debian developers or testers here? i googled and could not find any newbie friendly solution to the problem I am facing. |
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| 12:41.46 | supastuff | # apt-show-versions|grep openoff |
| 12:41.46 | supastuff | openoffice.org-l10n-he/unknown uptodate 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze2 |
| 12:41.51 | quuxman | ATIM3: I am a developer, and I avidly support Debian, but I've never contributed to the Debian project :-P |
| 12:42.14 | quuxman | ATIM3: speak your problem, don't ask to ask about it |
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| 12:42.22 | ATIM3 | I've got a Dell Latitude C600 laptop which has ATI M3 graphics. I installed Squeeze and the installation was successful and the machine rebooted. Everything looked good until GDM starts but all I am left is a black screen and the laptop locks completely. |
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| 12:42.32 | ATIM3 | The issue has been reported and the problem does not have a newbie friendly solution : http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/440355-squeeze-cant-handle-ati-m3s-anymore-x11-issue.html |
| 12:42.42 | Iridos | supastuff, I meant for all the other packages... see how many come from sid |
| 12:42.55 | quuxman | ATIM3: the first step is to disable GDM |
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| 12:43.03 | quuxman | ATIM3: Then start fiddling with xorg.conf |
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| 12:43.43 | quuxman | ATIM3: disable gdm with something like "rm /etc/init.d/S??gdm" as root |
| 12:43.43 | ATIM3 | quuxman: sorry but i am a desktop newbie and do not understand what you say. can you give me detailed instructions please? |
| 12:44.07 | quuxman | ATIM3: since it doesn't boot normally, use a boot disk to get to root |
| 12:44.43 | jlenormand | this script doesn't do what i would expect: {set -a ; bash ; print $(FOO); exit; } |
| 12:44.50 | Iridos | supastuff, since last week, lenny=oldstable, squeeze=stable, wheezy=testing, sid=unstable - you seem to have a mix of oldstable and unstable now - which probably also means packages from squeeze and wheezy, exactly which depending on when you did the last upgrade |
| 12:45.57 | quuxman | ATIM3: is that detailed enough? |
| 12:45.57 | debiantonio | i'm installing wheezy yesterdey, same problem |
| 12:47.29 | debiantonio | but with KDE4 |
| 12:48.26 | ATIM3 | quuxman: there is no /etc/init.d/S??gdm" . The only thing with gdm in /etc/init.d is gdm. So, do I need to execute rm /etc/init.d/gdm ? |
| 12:48.44 | quuxman | ATIM3: that's the point. '?' is a wild card |
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| 12:49.10 | quuxman | ATIM3: this works too: rm /etc/init.d/S*gdm |
| 12:49.17 | quuxman | the ?? is just a tiny bit more specific |
| 12:49.19 | debiantonio | nvidia? |
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| 12:50.38 | ATIM3 | quuxman, i removed the file called /etc/init.d/gdm. What shall i do now? |
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| 12:52.05 | Iridos | quuxman, didn't you mean /etc/rc*.d/S[andsoon] |
| 12:52.05 | uoods | what? why would you remove that? |
| 12:52.06 | quuxman | ATIM3: oops, sorry. You shouldn't have done that |
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| 12:52.23 | quuxman | I meant /etc/rc?.d/S??gdm |
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| 12:52.36 | uoods | heh, it's too late apparently |
| 12:52.38 | quuxman | ATIM3: oh well, you'll just have to reinstall gdm. Do this too |
| 12:52.45 | quuxman | ATIM3: rm /etc/rc?.d/S*gdm |
| 12:52.52 | quuxman | ATIM3: then you'll be able to boot in to console mode |
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| 12:56.38 | ATIM3 | quuxman, no problem, I made a backup copy of /etc/init.d/gdm and named it /etc/init.d/gdm.old. So all i have to do was cp /etc/init.d/gdm.old /etc/init.d/gdm |
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| 12:57.13 | Kazuha | Okay... |
| 12:57.28 | Kazuha | I've got a D-link 125 that keeps forgetting its SSID. |
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| 12:57.47 | kcinloc | I released a couple of debian wallpapers if anyone cares: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=60172 & http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=60228 |
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| 12:58.08 | kcinloc | Is this the offical irc channel or is there another one? |
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| 12:59.12 | quuxman | ATIM3: that was smart :-) |
| 13:00.10 | abrotman | kcinloc: there is another one, and that's where irc.debain.org points |
| 13:00.14 | abrotman | debian |
| 13:00.23 | abrotman | quuxman: you can get that file back anyway, no big loss |
| 13:00.35 | ATIM3 | quuxman, the only file or directory in /etc whose name starts with rc is /etc/rc.local |
| 13:01.02 | abrotman | kcinloc: art.debian.net might be more fun for you |
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| 13:03.54 | ATIM3 | abrotman: you mentioned something about the VESA driver, i am not sure exactly waht you meant by that but ... |
| 13:04.08 | abrotman | you can specify another driver in your xorg.conf |
| 13:04.29 | ATIM3 | "the Vesa driver however just doesn't work on these old 8MB M3's" says: http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/440355-squeeze-cant-handle-ati-m3s-anymore-x11-issue.html |
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| 13:05.13 | abrotman | ATIM3: we would need full logs |
| 13:05.21 | Kazuha | I've got an 802.11 which uses rt2870sta module... and every time the laptop disconnects from it, it forgets its SSID. |
| 13:05.24 | abrotman | ATIM3: do you ahve the PCI ID? |
| 13:05.26 | Kazuha | Anyone? |
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| 13:06.09 | ATIM3 | abrotman: i do not have any xorg.conf . There is none |
| 13:06.21 | abrotman | you can create one |
| 13:06.24 | zamba | after the upgrade to squeeze, my samba PDC has stopped working.. no users are able to log in on their windows machines |
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| 13:06.43 | zamba | the syslog gives hints to why: get_md4pw: Workstation TJOBING$: no account in domain |
| 13:06.51 | zamba | hm.. this is maybe samba related :) |
| 13:06.59 | ATIM3 | abrotman, is creating an xorg.conf a newbie friendly thing? |
| 13:08.00 | Kazuha | I usually don't see creating any major confile from man pages as beginner-friendly. |
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| 13:08.19 | quuxman | ATIM3: yes |
| 13:08.29 | quuxman | ATIM3: it's very easy: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 13:08.58 | quuxman | ATIM3: however, I recommend: vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 13:09.11 | quuxman | ATIM3: however, you may have to: sudo apt-get install vim # first |
| 13:09.26 | quuxman | ATIM3: and you probably also want to: vimtutor |
| 13:09.50 | Kazuha | Personally, I find vim & joe more friendly than nano. |
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| 13:10.21 | raz | is there a command like dpkg -S that also searches in *not* installed pkgs? |
| 13:10.38 | raz | i keep forgetting what pkg htpasswd is in :) |
| 13:10.50 | ATIM3 | abrotman, the laptop is Dell Latitude C600 with ATI Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2X (Rev 02) |
| 13:10.51 | abrotman | ATIM3: Xorg -configure |
| 13:11.15 | abrotman | ATIM3: that will generate an xorg.conf for you .. just then place it in /etc/X11/ |
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| 13:11.35 | abrotman | !tell raz about apt-file |
| 13:11.57 | raz | ah thanks! |
| 13:12.01 | quuxman | abrotman: wow, I didn't even know about `Xorg -configure`... what does that do? |
| 13:12.14 | abrotman | read the man page |
| 13:12.19 | quuxman | abrotman: does it probe your hardware and generate a reasonably sane conf? |
| 13:12.24 | abrotman | read the man page |
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| 13:13.16 | quuxman | abrotman: ah. This brings up a question I've had for many years. Is there an easy way to install xorg without all the damn video drivers for hardware that you don't have? |
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| 13:13.41 | abrotman | aptitude install xorg .. if you have to ask otherwise, figure it out .. I'm not in the business of making your life difficult |
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| 13:14.46 | quuxman | abrotman: I do not understand your answer.... I tried installing xorg with `apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-psb` but I soon got all the other video drivers too through some dependency thing I didn't understand |
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| 13:15.10 | lamah | FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 7: enlarged logical partitions overlap |
| 13:15.32 | ATIM3 | abrotman, Xorg -configure generated an xorg.conf which i placed in /etc/X11 and when i typed startx the screen went totally black and the laptop locked up completely |
| 13:15.43 | abrotman | ATIM3: you can edit the file and change it |
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| 13:15.52 | lamah | i can't open '/dev/sdb' with cfdisk, how? |
| 13:16.03 | quuxman | ATIM3: are you sure the laptop locked up? Can you hit ctrl+alt+f1 and get back to the console? |
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| 13:16.34 | quuxman | ATIM3: In my experience it's quite rare for X to actually lock the computer, but you frequently get a blank screen |
| 13:16.42 | ksk | hello |
| 13:16.49 | quuxman | ATIM3: also, even if ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work, you can typically ssh in and reboot cleanly |
| 13:16.54 | ksk | is there a list of software installed by an default debian install somewhere? |
| 13:17.04 | ATIM3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:17.31 | debiantonio | ctrl+alt+f1 cannot wor my desktop too |
| 13:17.32 | ATIM3 | quuxman, ssh is not running on the laptop |
| 13:17.52 | quuxman | ATIM3: well install it... it's very handy for shit like this |
| 13:17.58 | brisingr | ATIM3: you can try alt-sysrq(AKA printscreen)-r to enter raw keyboard mode, then try ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 13:18.10 | quuxman | ATIM3: also, frequuently when ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work, the chvt command will |
| 13:18.38 | abrotman | ATIM3: post the xorg.conf it created to a pastebin |
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| 13:19.03 | quuxman | abrotman: what do you mean "making my life difficult"? |
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| 13:19.20 | abrotman | ksk: define "by default" |
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| 13:19.40 | ksk | if i install debian from cd. |
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| 13:19.56 | ATIM3 | alt-sysrq-r did not work either. the laptop is completely locked |
| 13:20.43 | quuxman | ksk: install it, then "dpkg -l" |
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| 13:21.09 | ATIM3 | abrotman, will post the xorg.conf later on today. I have to go now. Thank you and all the other people here for their help. Gotta go now. |
| 13:21.13 | debiantonio | may be nividia driver? |
| 13:21.41 | abrotman | quuxman: you're not helping |
| 13:21.51 | abrotman | ksk: it depends on the tasks you install |
| 13:22.18 | abrotman | ksk: if you choose the database/desktop/etc .. it will be hugely different than just going with 'standard' packages |
| 13:22.29 | quuxman | abrotman: not helping with what? |
| 13:22.36 | quuxman | abrotman: with ATIM3? |
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| 13:23.28 | ksk | mhm okay, thanks |
| 13:24.43 | abrotman | ksk: you can look at package priorities, and then kind of use that as a guess .. so you could say: aptitude search '~prequired' .. to see what is required or '~pstandard' to see what is "Standard" |
| 13:24.49 | abrotman | !priorities |
| 13:24.51 | abrotman | bleh |
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| 13:26.23 | fbs | how to run multiple version of gcc ? |
| 13:26.56 | abrotman | install them, use the full path |
| 13:27.01 | abrotman | or set the CC env var |
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| 13:28.49 | Strogg | 'lo 'lo |
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| 13:29.11 | Strogg | can anyone confirm if akregator still works in squeeze on x86? |
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| 13:34.00 | fbs | abrotman: ok thanks :) |
| 13:34.11 | johnaba | Any tips on how to fix a defunct dpkg? |
| 13:34.12 | fbs | i need to compile systemsc from 2000 or smth |
| 13:34.36 | Strogg | systemC? eww.. |
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| 13:35.06 | johnaba | My terminal freezes whenever I try to install a package via apt-get, (dpkg <defunct>), and when I launch for example "htop" the process viewer. |
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| 13:35.24 | johnaba | (this is when I ssh to the box) |
| 13:36.05 | thinksteve | Fresh installation or did you do an upgrade? |
| 13:36.16 | johnaba | Fresh installation, but it's a Xen image |
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| 13:37.52 | johnaba | I tried dpkg-reconfigure -a but it didn't help |
| 13:38.07 | fbs | Strogg: yeah |
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| 13:38.39 | fbs | it lolling, visual C, with custom lcc compiler. Gnu tools in cygwin etc |
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| 13:39.29 | Strogg | hrmmm ok.. aha! I think I got it runnning.. |
| 13:39.46 | Strogg | I did a ps and killed anything that started with k... started akregator up again. |
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| 13:48.03 | brisingr | gnome eats a lot of ram - over 500M (and I'm not talking about cache). every component seems to be using more lately. gdm, for example, has 2 instances totalling almost 50M. gnome-system-monitor uses over 20. gnome-inhibit-applet uses a staggering 18.6M. what happened? 2 weeks ago everything was fine (200-300M used). no recent installations, just sid upgrade |
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| 13:49.50 | jargon- | brisingr: i avoid gnome and use openbox. lightweight window manager |
| 13:50.48 | brisingr | actually, for WM I use xmonad |
| 13:50.56 | brisingr | I like gnome's applications tho |
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| 13:51.46 | funabash1 | i want my eth0 network card to be eth1 |
| 13:52.30 | jargon- | brisingr: i used to use xmonad,then awesome,now openbox. i still use gnome on lmde,and i do like gnome apps |
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| 13:54.08 | Iridos | why would a utf-8 file displayed with the browser locally (file://...) show umlauts and other non-ascii characters correctly, but show two-character garbage for them when I access it via the running webserver (the charset declaration in the html file is correct) |
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| 13:56.34 | AlexC_ | Iridos: curl -I [url] and look at the Content-Type header |
| 13:57.27 | brisingr | jargon-: hmm |
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| 13:58.13 | Iridos | ouch... the webserver is still 1.3.x from etch :( |
| 13:58.51 | abrotman | !pal Iridos |
| 13:58.51 | dpkg | points at Iridos and laughs hysterically |
| 13:58.52 | Iridos | AlexC_, curl! I never think of that...was trying to get the header with netcat |
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| 13:59.01 | Iridos | and indeed... Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 |
| 13:59.04 | Iridos | how annoying |
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| 13:59.42 | AlexC_ | Iridos: :) That'll be your web server setting that |
| 14:00.06 | brisingr | jargon-: out of curiosity, how much memory do gnome apps use on your box? |
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| 14:00.36 | Iridos | AlexC_, so I suspect the webserver is from before utf8 came up :-P |
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| 14:00.46 | AlexC_ | Iridos: no, that's just the default |
| 14:01.01 | AlexC_ | but charset is the least of your issues .... 1.3? Seriously |
| 14:01.15 | Iridos | hehe |
| 14:01.27 | Iridos | well... |
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| 14:01.47 | Iridos | there's reasons for that |
| 14:01.55 | Iridos | I'm not saying specially good reasons |
| 14:02.02 | jargon- | brisingr: on my netbook,with openbox on crunchbang 10,my overall CPU usage is usually <=15-25% |
| 14:02.34 | jargon- | brisingr: and not that much more on lmde with gnome |
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| 14:03.06 | Deesl | can some good soul here suggest a book/tutorial for a Gentoo veteran but a Debian newbie? |
| 14:03.35 | brisingr | jargon-: that's interesting. My processor usage is acceptably down, but RAM's another story |
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| 14:04.12 | brisingr | jargon-: the thing is, only recently did gnome almost double its usage |
| 14:04.19 | Iridos | AlexC_, heh, fun... seems servers today parse the html file for the declaration, while 1.3.x just has a default charset and all html (or whatever filetype a default is defined for) is supposed to be that way |
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| 14:04.56 | jargon- | brisingr: i updated my lmde gnome today,i'll keep an eye on it |
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| 14:05.45 | brisingr | jargon-: thanks. I'll see if I can upgrade gnome now, it's conflicting with something in sid |
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| 14:06.37 | jargon- | brisingr: sid's the new testing,right? lmde and crunchbang10 are on squeeze |
| 14:06.38 | AlexC_ | Iridos: as said, you have bigger problems :) |
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| 14:06.48 | AlexC_ | what hashing algorithm does LDAP use to store passwords? |
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| 14:07.10 | brisingr | jargon-: yes |
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| 14:08.13 | johnaba | What does this message mean? "__ratelimit: 448 messages suppressed" and right after "Time went backwards" |
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| 14:09.00 | brisingr | jargon-: notably, video drivers, office and gstreamer-ffmpeg would be broken by an update |
| 14:09.12 | Iridos | AlexC_, actually, regarding that machine, I don't |
| 14:09.36 | factorx | Hi people. I have a problem building a package, that uses kernel-dependend build dependencies (such as Build-Depends: .. libusb-dev [linux-any] ...) using pbuilder. When it looks which packages to download, it simply does not see those kernel-dependend packages and therefore does not install them. The problem occured on squeeze. What can I do? |
| 14:09.39 | jargon- | brisingr: all the good stuff. :P |
| 14:10.02 | Iridos | although I don't like the 2.4 kernel much |
| 14:10.24 | pipeline | AlexC_: all sorts of things |
| 14:10.35 | pipeline | AlexC_: plaintext, crypt, bcrypt, md5, SAM, you name it |
| 14:10.48 | pipeline | AlexC_: LDAP is really a very simple standard, it mandates very little behaviour, so individual vendors do whatever the fuck they want |
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| 14:11.19 | brisingr | jargon-: I do have a rather strange mix of things in sources.list, I'll add the new testing |
| 14:11.50 | AlexC_ | pipeline: hum, I'm a little confused how to do this then. The manpage for 'ldapsetpasswd' from ldapscripts says "If specified this way, the password will be copied verbatim into the LDAP directory. If not specified, you will be prompted for a password that will be changed using the ldapâ passwd(1) command. |
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| 14:12.21 | AlexC_ | I want to specify it .... but I need to hash it in some way, but surely I'll need a hash that PAM etc is setup to use already? |
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| 14:13.10 | pipeline | AlexC_: I'm taking a look at the man page |
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| 14:15.02 | pipeline | AlexC_: looks like pam_ldap supports crypt and md5 |
| 14:15.11 | Deesl | any help for me? |
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| 14:15.21 | pipeline | AlexC_: but if you use pam_ldap, then you can just use the system "passwd" command to set passwords... pam_ldap can write to the directory as well as read from it :) |
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| 14:15.27 | pipeline | AlexC_: then you don't need the ldapscripts version at all |
| 14:15.30 | Deesl | I am looking for a book for debian beginners who are not new to Linux |
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| 14:16.03 | AlexC_ | pipeline: the trouble is 'passwd' is interactive, and I need this for a bash script that sets up many things and one of them is a user account. I'm adding LDAP support to it, previously I just use "chpassd" .... but, there is no such thing for LDAP |
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| 14:17.39 | mtedder | Any clue as to why some of our debian servers timeout ssh sessions? |
| 14:17.47 | pipeline | AlexC_: knock out an expect script. Or use perl to do the md5 hashing yourself. I don't think using some guy's ldap scripts package is the right thing :) |
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| 14:17.51 | abrotman | timeout during connect? or during session ? |
| 14:17.55 | mtedder | It seems like about every two minutes.. |
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| 14:18.00 | mtedder | after connecting |
| 14:18.02 | pipeline | AlexC_: p.s. openldap is really terrible, I hope you're not stuck with it :( |
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| 14:18.09 | phogg | AlexC_: hash the password yourself and write the attribute with a standard tool |
| 14:18.12 | abrotman | mtedder: typically, a firewall with a timeout |
| 14:18.13 | jebidiah | mtedder: you using linux ssh client, or putty? |
| 14:18.24 | mtedder | using ssh from ubuntu |
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| 14:18.25 | pipeline | mtedder: often that's not related to server config, but rather network design. Add "ServerAliveInterval 10" to your ~/.ssh/config on the client side |
| 14:18.25 | fircx | i have got the following error massage when i'm executing apt-get update failed to exec method /usr/lib/apt/method debian |
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| 14:18.39 | fircx | what can i do to fix this ? |
| 14:18.54 | AlexC_ | pipeline: it works for now, I will in the future write my own but for now it's ok. Expect? Interesting, I'll look into this |
| 14:18.56 | mtedder | pipeline: I tried that.. and another one too |
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| 14:19.03 | AlexC_ | phogg: that's true, could do that |
| 14:19.30 | pipeline | AlexC_: yeah, "expect" was originally a tcl library to help you automate interactive tools. There is also a non-TCL perl-based Expect, Expect.pm. Serves the same purpose, but you don't have to deal with tcl. |
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| 14:21.15 | yucatan | hello guys is there anyone that know openvz? |
| 14:21.36 | pipeline | yucatan: just ask questions, if someone has an answer, they'll answer |
| 14:21.40 | AlexC_ | pipeline: I'll look into this. Just one thing, Perl crypt() seems to want a salt - I didn't think PAM used a salt? |
| 14:21.49 | pipeline | yucatan: IRC is not one-on-one support. But it's also not $300 an hour. Pretty good deal, if you ask me. |
| 14:22.10 | yucatan | ur totaly right |
| 14:22.12 | pipeline | AlexC_: you're always going to need a salt. Consult the pam_ldap documentation :\ |
| 14:22.13 | xk | who charges 300/hour? |
| 14:22.21 | yucatan | anyway i was looking for some information about openvz |
| 14:22.22 | xk | oracle consultant? |
| 14:22.32 | pipeline | xk: Red Hat |
| 14:22.39 | yucatan | what it is? i have read that its allmost ehs ame as vmware but i dont know if its true |
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| 14:22.55 | pipeline | xk: p.s. I don't charge a whole heck of a lot less than that in my working life. |
| 14:22.56 | yucatan | can it run on debian? is it gui or cli? is it free? etc |
| 14:23.18 | pipeline | yucatan: openvz is a virtualization technology, but it's not a vmware competitor. It's really meant for ultra-high-density shared hosting. If you don't know what you want, you don't want OpenVZ. |
| 14:23.58 | pipeline | yucatan: if you're looking for a cheap virtualization solution, check out libvirt.org. Libvirt is the library for a suite of VM management tools, GUI and CLI. It can use KVM on the backend. KVM is a technology for hardware virtualization on linux. |
| 14:24.15 | ksk | yucatan: visit openvz.org - kinda helpful wiki over there |
| 14:24.24 | mtedder | pipeline: actually.. maybe you're right.. I tried an sshd_config option on the servers.. Even though some debian systems (the ones I personally installed) don't timeout, the others do. |
| 14:24.41 | pipeline | mtedder: on the server side, the equivalent option wuold be "clientaliveinterval" |
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| 14:24.49 | pipeline | [D |
| 14:25.15 | mtedder | pipeline: I just put ServerAliveInterval 10 in ssh_config on my client... How do you make it take effect on the client? |
| 14:25.30 | pipeline | mtedder: it will take effect in your next ssh session |
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| 14:25.42 | pipeline | mtedder: if you "ssh -v" you can see every time it sends the keepalive |
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| 14:25.54 | pipeline | mtedder: you'll also get a slightly more detailed error if the session is terminated by a FW or something |
| 14:26.01 | mtedder | pipeline: ok.. I'm testing it now.. will know in about two minutes if it works.. |
| 14:26.03 | yucatan | pipeline: how should i see libvert |
| 14:26.17 | yucatan | or how can i use it sorry i tdont fully understand what it is |
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| 14:26.37 | mtedder | pipeline: many of us have been suffering from this for the last month.. as all of our servers have to be tunneled to now.. for security.. |
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| 14:26.46 | AlexC_ | pipeline: there is no mention of the hash or salt in pam_ldap. Ok, I'll google around so not to bother you, thanks for the help |
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| 14:29.49 | pipeline | AlexC_: well, you could save some trouble by writing a perl script that does what the passwd() tool does |
| 14:29.58 | pipeline | AlexC_: or using expect to wrap passwd |
| 14:30.01 | pipeline | AlexC_: and just let pam_ldap do the work |
| 14:30.22 | AlexC_ | ok, thank you |
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| 14:31.16 | pipeline | yucatan: so the underlying virtualization technology is KVM. Libvirt provides a suite of tools to manage VMs. "virt-manager" is a gui tool packaged by debian. You should be able to find a tutorial. |
| 14:31.21 | mrkiko | What if I have an utf8 file and need to see proper accents? My current locale is "en_IE", and using iconv I don't have results |
| 14:31.49 | pipeline | mrkiko: you probably want en_IE.UTF-8 |
| 14:32.09 | pipeline | mrkiko: you also need a terminal that supports UTF-8. Lots do'nt. |
| 14:32.19 | mrkiko | Ok but ... should I change my locale? Isn't there a more flexible way? |
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| 14:32.32 | pipeline | mrkiko: changing your locale IS the flexible way |
| 14:32.43 | pipeline | mrkiko: you can change your locale globally, just for you, per-terminal, however you want P: |
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| 14:33.03 | mrkiko | pipeline: ok ... I use standard tty* terminals: don't know their type anyway. I don't use graphical environments... since I'm using a braille dispaly |
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| 14:34.10 | mrkiko | pipeline: ok ... and to change it i should just modify some LC variables? |
| 14:34.20 | pipeline | mrkiko: hmm I would be a little surprised if a braille hardware terminal supported UTF-8 output... I don't know how to convert a UTF-8 file to latin-1 |
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| 14:34.33 | pipeline | mrkiko: yeah, to change your locale for just your present session, export LC_ALL=en_IE.UTF-8 |
| 14:34.43 | Ongi | Sziasztok testverek! |
| 14:35.16 | nesuno | Hi! I just installed a debian squeeze, and tried to issue an ssh command from rc.local, but it couldn't started, because no net. |
| 14:35.19 | mrkiko | pipeline: oh ... no, braille display just gest output from the current terminal |
| 14:36.18 | nesuno | How can I start an ssh (for port forward) during (/after) boot automatically?? |
| 14:36.20 | pipeline | mrkiko: oh I gotcha. I thought it was an RS-232 device or something. :) |
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| 14:36.50 | pipeline | nesuno: write an init.d script or cron job using the "autossh" package |
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| 14:37.20 | Pupeno[work] | When installing mysql I get this error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.51a-24+lenny5_amd64.deb (--install): |
| 14:37.20 | Pupeno[work] | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.24 | mrkiko | pipeline: ok, anyway I can't see accents :) |
| 14:37.28 | Pupeno[work] | Any ideas how to get more information about what's broken? |
| 14:38.00 | pipeline | mrkiko: what terminal application are you using ? just the linux console ? |
| 14:38.10 | mrkiko | pipeline: yes |
| 14:38.19 | mrkiko | and |
| 14:38.31 | pipeline | mrkiko: I've never set up UTF on the console itself, but I am about 99% sure it is possible to do so |
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| 14:38.52 | mrkiko | pipeline: sorry for my pedance... I never needed to see accents until today: I'm sending a present but the address of the person is written in a utf8 file |
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| 14:39.45 | mrkiko | pipeline: I was sure I overcomed this problem with iconv once but ... now I don't know |
| 14:40.24 | mrkiko | pipeline: and I'm pretty sure I'm right, since "file" says: sms-messages-2011-01-13.utf8.txt: UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines |
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| 14:41.09 | uoods | mrkiko: I don't know if there are other methods, but I know that fbterm displays utf-8 perferctly fine for me |
| 14:41.40 | pipeline | mrkiko: I think I found the key widget for this |
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| 14:42.02 | pipeline | mrkiko: there is a CLI command, "unicode_start", that kicks the linux console into UTF-8 input/output |
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| 14:42.18 | mrkiko | wowowow |
| 14:42.23 | pipeline | mrkiko: unfortunately unicode_start seems to expect a font as argument, and I'm not really sure how the heck console fonts work. (I have never been fond of the VGA console.) |
| 14:42.47 | pipeline | uoods: mrkiko has some kind of unusual output device such that he prefers the linux console to X11 |
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| 14:43.14 | xk | fear linux console 80x25 on 30" screen |
| 14:43.31 | nesuno | pipeline: I composed the working ssh command. I tried to put it into an init script, but also failed because of no network. Does autossh help? |
| 14:43.41 | uoods | pipeline: I'm not using X11 atm either |
| 14:43.41 | mrkiko | pipeline: ok, it works |
| 14:43.43 | abrotman | xk: fear the sysadmin with coke-bottle glasses? :) |
| 14:43.50 | xk | ahhaha |
| 14:44.02 | mrkiko | pipeline: unicode_start has done the trick - and now I'll be able to send the present :) :) |
| 14:44.32 | mrkiko | uoods: thank you for your hint. the problem is that brltty (the screen reading software I'm using) doesn't handle framebuffer at all |
| 14:44.42 | pipeline | nesuno: autossh handles restarting the ssh client when it dies or the tunnel goes down etc |
| 14:44.42 | mrkiko | uoods: thank you anyway ... very very much |
| 14:44.54 | uoods | uoods: ok I see, np :) |
| 14:44.59 | uoods | mrkiko: ^ |
| 14:45.00 | xk | fear fitting 25 xterms on the one screen :) better? |
| 14:45.13 | pipeline | nesuno: if your init script failed due to no network, it is because you had it start too early. Make the init script in /etc/init.d, then make a softlink /etc/rc3.d/S99mysshtunnelscriptthing |
| 14:45.16 | sameerthahir | hi all, which directory can I find the debian space art wallpaper |
| 14:45.27 | pipeline | nesuno: autossh will also handle retrying if the initial connection fails |
| 14:45.36 | pipeline | mrkiko: cool beans |
| 14:46.34 | pipeline | xk: I have always been an X11 user. Hate, hate, hate SCO-style vtty crap -- makes life more complicated, adds very little to the party. Sun had this right with their super crude single tty console :) |
| 14:47.19 | pipeline | xk: SGI had it even more right -- if X11 doesn't start, you can't even use freaking vi, their system console is not intended to be used by anyone for anything ever :P |
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| 14:47.35 | nesuno | pipeline: who -r writes runlevel 2, when I put to rc.local it was the last command that run. (After sshd.) Thanx the help, I'm trying autossh. |
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| 14:53.51 | fircx | where is link of debian lenny ? |
| 14:53.59 | fircx | i cant find it there is only 6.0 |
| 14:54.47 | streuner | !lenny |
| 14:54.47 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for the current <oldstable> release, Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on 2009-02-15 and superseded by Squeeze as of 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 . Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>, <lenny release notes>, <install lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.8>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
| 14:55.03 | arand_ | I'm trying to do this: "sudo -u Debian-gdm gconftool-2 --set --type string /desktop/gnome/background/picture_options stretch" and get this error: "Error setting value: Can't overwrite existing read-only value: Value for `/desktop/gnome/background/picture_options' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path" Is ther another way to change my gdm background in debian? short of replacing files. |
| 14:55.07 | streuner | !install lenny |
| 14:55.07 | dpkg | Links to Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 ("Lenny") installation images are provided at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/debian-installer/ . Note that Lenny has been superseded by Squeeze, ask me about <install squeeze>. See also <errata lenny> and <lenny install guide>. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.8/ |
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| 14:56.12 | abrotman | fircx: you should really be installing squeeze now .. why do you want lenny? |
| 14:58.22 | fircx | abrotman, coz i have some problems |
| 14:58.27 | abrotman | such as? |
| 14:58.28 | fircx | with fimwares |
| 14:58.36 | fircx | there was no resolv.con file |
| 14:58.41 | abrotman | uhm .. you can just make one |
| 14:58.44 | fircx | apt-get does not worked |
| 14:58.52 | abrotman | because you have no DNS servers |
| 14:58.55 | abrotman | fix your squeeze, don't install lenny |
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| 14:59.40 | AusME | I'd like to know how to increase the buffer size for the ALSA drivers on Debian Squeeze. |
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| 15:01.14 | linuxxx | hello |
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| 15:01.32 | AusME | Hello linuxxx |
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| 15:01.41 | AusME | It seems there are many users but not much chat. |
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| 15:02.47 | linuxxx | at installation of debian 6.0 i386 if i press ctrl+alt+f1 i can see some errors: (ee) failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0) and (ee) failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0) |
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| 15:03.16 | linuxxx | but it seems to not effect to my installation |
| 15:03.47 | AusME | linuxxx I'm not an expert, but it sounds like some modules are being told to auto load and that the mod probe command can't find them. |
| 15:04.30 | AusME | linuxxx, how did you install Debian? CD? |
| 15:04.41 | linuxxx | netinst throught usb |
| 15:05.13 | AusME | linuxxx, Try a CD installation. You'll probably get /all/ kernel modules that way. |
| 15:05.15 | stew | linuxxx: is the xserver-xorg-video-intell package installed? |
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| 15:05.43 | linuxxx | but the two computers where i want to install are lenovo and hp so i think that modue "intel" does not effect to the installation |
| 15:05.44 | stew | no, a cd installation would not result in a different kernel |
| 15:06.00 | stew | all the kernel packages debian offers have the same set of modules for the same kernel version |
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| 15:06.15 | AusME | Ah. Thank you stew, I didn't know that. |
| 15:06.27 | linuxxx | i'm right? |
| 15:06.31 | stew | linuxxx: those are video drivers, intel would be used if you had an intel grahics chip (which some lenovo machines do) |
| 15:06.46 | stew | linuxxx: vesa is a generic module that should work with any video card |
| 15:06.58 | linuxxx | stew, yes my graphic chip is intel |
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| 15:07.32 | stew | linuxxx: is xserver-xorg-video-intel installed? |
| 15:07.36 | linuxxx | but are these errors important? |
| 15:07.44 | DroidAgent | Hm. Can I... upgrade a package from a .deb that I get manually without breaking stuff? I have an app that has had an update but it's not yet in its usual repository. |
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| 15:08.58 | rgr | brand new squeeze install - went swimmingly. lvm the works. Then usual video issues. installed nvidia-glx binaries ran nvidia-xconfig and restarted gdm and I hve a black screen. Whats the correct sequence now? |
| 15:09.20 | abrotman | installed them how? |
| 15:09.42 | linuxxx | stew, how i install it in the insallation? |
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| 18:05.43 | ashutosh | ok tridos then you tell about the nvidia driver |
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| 18:06.22 | Iridos | asking the bot is fine, you're just supposed to use /msg so we don't all are informed about you asking the bot :) |
| 18:06.57 | jimcooncat | #crunchbang |
| 18:07.01 | jimcooncat | oops |
| 18:07.36 | Devastator | Iridos i guess he didn't liked your suggestion :) |
| 18:08.01 | Iridos | and yes, follow the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 18:08.07 | Iridos | Devastator, seems not |
| 18:08.19 | Iridos | well |
| 18:08.21 | Iridos | !next |
| 18:08.21 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 18:08.57 | wildc4rd | evenin' all! |
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| 18:10.13 | EyesIsMine|Codin | !next |
| 18:10.14 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 18:10.16 | EyesIsMine|Codin | lol |
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| 18:11.50 | mariusk90 | hi i just saw at my friends fresh installed debian sid, that he had notifys with a close button. is this a new libnotify version or other lib? |
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| 18:12.39 | sploozer | Hello..i'm trying to rsync a local dir to a remote rsync server (another debian box) using "rsync -rav localdir remotesys::remotedir and it only sends an incremental file list and then quits |
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| 18:12.51 | sploozer | i don't understand what i'm doing wrong |
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| 18:15.54 | gnugr | adobe-flashplugin it is not installable for squeeze |
| 18:16.47 | Hans_Henrik | are the apache/php setups in the repo's built with any optimizations? |
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| 18:17.04 | jelly-hme | Hans_Henrik: what kinds of optimizations? |
| 18:17.16 | Hans_Henrik | -O(x) |
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| 18:20.49 | jelly-hme | Hans_Henrik: I mean, what are the bottlenecks you expect to be mitigated with optimizations? Debian defaults to builiding with -O2 for gcc options |
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| 18:20.49 | Arrowmaster | gnugr: flashplugin-nonfree is the proper package name |
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| 18:20.49 | sharp15 | how does debian configure the editor for visudo? |
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| 18:20.49 | jelly-hme | sharp15: EDITOR env.var |
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| 18:20.49 | lamah | where alsamixer/amixer and maybe other mixers saves volume controls? |
| 18:20.49 | alexxio | before upgrading to squeeze, my old logitech quickcam express was working. now it doesnt and i cant make it make photos.. :( who can help me about drivers or plugins i am missing? |
| 18:20.49 | sharp15 | jelly-hme: apparently not. 'echo $EDITOR' prints '/usr/bin/vim' but visudo keeps using nano. |
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| 18:20.49 | jelly-hme | sharp15: did you export it? |
| 18:20.49 | Hans_Henrik | jelly-hme: ah nothing, i was just thinking about what benefits i may gain from compiling them manually :p |
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| 18:21.17 | jelly-hme | Hans_Henrik: you'll gain experience maintaining and updating custom builds and tracking security and bugfix updates manually |
| 18:21.18 | sharp15 | jelly-hme: no. didn't have to anywhere else. i set the variable in .bashrc |
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| 18:21.35 | Arrowmaster | sharp15: in root's .bashrc? |
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| 18:21.42 | sharp15 | jelly-hme: export fixed it in the shell. no idea why. |
| 18:21.45 | sharp15 | Arrowmaster: yes. |
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| 18:23.04 | jelly-hme | sharp15: if a variable is not exported, it doesn't get inherited by children processes. Only exported vars get to be environment vars. |
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| 18:23.27 | frikinz | and this normally goes in .profile or .bash_profile to not be multiple times sourced |
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| 18:24.25 | jelly-hme | or .zshenv for users of the best possible shell |
| 18:24.26 | cutchyacokov | How do you make grud wait a couple of seconds after loading the kernel? I have /usr on an SD card and it takes a couple seconds to appear in /dev. |
| 18:24.32 | cutchyacokov | grub* |
| 18:24.38 | frikinz | like PATH=$PATH:bin in .bashrc is bad.. |
| 18:25.04 | Hans_Henrik | is there some easy way to make debian automatically download & install security updates, and if necessary, reboot the computer, on a daily basis? |
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| 18:25.57 | sharp15 | jelly-hme: uh. doesn't work like that on my gentoo box. typed "EDITOR='/usr/bin/vim'" into .bashrc sourced it and visudo used it without a problem. |
| 18:25.58 | jelly-hme | Hans_Henrik: you don't want to do that, at least not on production systems. |
| 18:26.03 | amphi | Hans_Henrik: cron-apt may be what you want |
| 18:26.34 | jelly-hme | there's unattended-upgrades now |
| 18:26.51 | jelly-hme | (see, some stuff _does_ flow from ubuntu back to debian) |
| 18:26.58 | Iridos | jelly-hme, oh, great, can I use them on sid? |
| 18:27.04 | raidghost | Gonna try to setup RADIUS Daemon. What daemon should i use, and is there any packages for debian? |
| 18:27.23 | jelly-hme | sharp15: I don't know how gentoo works. |
| 18:27.25 | Arrowmaster | wonders who did the effort of getting that stuff from ubuntu into debian though |
| 18:28.07 | jelly-hme | Iridos: YES YOU CAN! :-) |
| 18:28.18 | Iridos | \o/ |
| 18:28.29 | benjamindees | my thinkpad is locking up running a cpu-intensive program on squeeze; 'sensors' reports 96dC temperature. any suggestions? |
| 18:28.32 | jelly-hme | raidghost: freeradius seems to be the usual weapon of choice |
| 18:28.39 | raidghost | ok. Thanks ;) |
| 18:28.57 | amphi | benjamindees: are you doing anything funny with the fan? |
| 18:29.04 | jelly-hme | raidghost: sometimes build from upstream sources, sometimes using the debian builds as-is |
| 18:29.08 | sharp15 | frikinz: which files source bashrc multiple times? |
| 18:29.12 | amphi | benjamindees: cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan might be informative |
| 18:29.15 | agatewood2 | i just notice ntop is not in squeeze. Can some suggest another tool to use to monitor network usage? |
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| 18:29.20 | raidghost | jelly-hme: I very often get lockfile creation failed , on ntp |
| 18:29.23 | raidghost | I wonder how i solve that |
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| 18:29.39 | frikinz | sharp15: bash does for new non login shells |
| 18:29.41 | cutchyacokov | I know there is kernel boot option to make the system wait a seond or two after loading the kernel. In my case I need to do this so that my SD card will populate in /dev before fs checking/mounting starts. Does anyone know the syntax to do this in grub2? |
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| 18:29.51 | jelly-hme | raidghost: is ntpdate installed? |
| 18:29.53 | benjamindees | amphi, enabled, speed 4360, auto; it seems to be coming on periodically |
| 18:30.04 | frikinz | sharp15: man bash is long but interesting, part INVOCATION |
| 18:30.06 | cahoot | dust? |
| 18:30.16 | amphi | 'auto' should work, that's BIOS controlled as far as I know |
| 18:30.23 | amphi | yeah, sounds like dust |
| 18:30.30 | Arrowmaster | bash invocation is a convoluted mess |
| 18:30.48 | Bushmills | agatewood2: darkstat. awffull, |
| 18:30.56 | benjamindees | can't see any but I haven't opened it up |
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| 18:31.03 | amphi | benjamindees: what cpu is it? c2d? |
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| 18:31.19 | Bushmills | agatewood2: cacti, munin, |
| 18:31.20 | Iridos | come on, it's lot better you used to have to draw a pentagram on the floor, put dribbly candles around it and chant something mystic for a bash invocation |
| 18:31.21 | jelly-hme | cutchyacokov: hm. try reading /msg dpkg initramfs debug |
| 18:31.34 | benjamindees | amphi, core2, T5600 @ 1.83GHz |
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| 18:31.55 | Bushmills | agatewood2: and for non-web interface, vnstat |
| 18:31.58 | amphi | c2ds do run quite hot, but it shouldn't get that hot, even under sustained load |
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| 18:32.38 | amphi | mine has quite a lot of dust in it I think, and still doesn't go over 75â°C with a long compile, like webkit |
| 18:32.38 | dirkson | Telling the debian updater "Yes, go ahead and use dash" completely broke tab completion. Is that normal? If yes, how do I stop using dash? |
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| 18:32.54 | Ty_LL | Best number of maxclients for a server (apache2) with 500MB? |
| 18:32.58 | frikinz | Arrowmaster: and some distro source bashrc from profile :) |
| 18:32.59 | agatewood2 | Bushmills: thanks, will take a look at them. |
| 18:33.04 | jelly-hme | dirkson: broke tab completion in your user shell, or the root shell? |
| 18:33.16 | Bushmills | agatewood2: scratch awffull, that's web server use only |
| 18:33.19 | benjamindees | I'm not really sure that the temp reading is accurate |
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| 18:33.36 | dirkson | jelly-hme: Oh! User only |
| 18:33.40 | cutchyacokov | jelly-hme, the option is rootdelay=#, thanks. It says on the page /msg dpkg spit out. :) |
| 18:33.47 | cahoot | if it closes down it probably is correct |
| 18:33.50 | amphi | benjamindees: what makes you doubt it? what does acpi -t say? |
| 18:34.16 | benjamindees | amphi, same, 96dC |
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| 18:34.28 | jelly-hme | dirkson: that's weird. I guess it could happen if your user shell is /bin/sh instead of an explicit /bin/bash |
| 18:34.49 | dirkson | jelly-hme: Yup, that's what's happened. Thanks! |
| 18:34.51 | crissi | got it. thanks for nothing :) |
| 18:34.57 | Hans_Henrik | will a netboot-installer i burned sometime in 1010 for debian 5 install 5 or 6 by default now? |
| 18:35.00 | amphi | benjamindees: what does it show if you stop the cpu-intensive task (after a minute or so) ? |
| 18:35.07 | agatewood2 | Bushmills: ok |
| 18:35.14 | Wouterdt | I've got a weird thing going on here: |
| 18:35.15 | Wouterdt | [root@fileserver ~]# cd /home/ |
| 18:35.15 | Wouterdt | [root@fileserver hmee]# |
| 18:35.15 | Wouterdt | See the hmee in stead of home? |
| 18:35.15 | Wouterdt | I'm using this export in my /root/.barshrc: export PS1='\[\e[1;31m\][\u@\h \W]\$\[\e[0m\] ' |
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| 18:35.16 | jelly-hme | dirkson: chsh is your friend |
| 18:35.24 | Hans_Henrik | 2010* shii |
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| 18:35.29 | Arrowmaster | frikinz: i think most do since that seems to be the accepted way to solve bashes stupid 'ill load this if its a login shell, but ill only load that if its an interactive non-login shell' |
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| 18:35.58 | Wouterdt | kicked for 4 lines? |
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| 18:36.02 | abrotman | yes |
| 18:36.05 | Wouterdt | hmm ok |
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| 18:36.16 | b0nghitter | is it possible to install squeeze server to a 2nd hdd, from an already installed lenny system? and would it be difficult to then switch the hdd's around and have it boot without problems? i would like to just start fresh. |
| 18:36.22 | Wouterdt | are the lines still there or should I use pastebin and ask again? |
| 18:36.24 | Arrowmaster | are you lagging? all your lines showed up at once |
| 18:36.42 | Wouterdt | did a CTRL+V from another irc channel |
| 18:36.59 | dirkson | jelly-hme: Hmm. No, I'm in a dash shell now, but tab completion is still broken. Switching to a bash shell works. I wonder if dash is just broken |
| 18:37.40 | Bushmills | afaik, dash doesn't tab-complete |
| 18:37.42 | Arrowmaster | i doubt dash is ment to even have tab completeion |
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| 18:37.56 | jelly-hme | dirkson: it's not broken. There's no completion at all! |
| 18:38.02 | icefrog | does anyone know where to edit the grub menu, i didnt see menu.lst in the grub folder on squeeze |
| 18:38.10 | benjamindees | amphi, about 79dC now |
| 18:38.11 | icefrog | on the boot partition |
| 18:38.14 | Wouterdt | i'm using squeeze btw |
| 18:38.15 | stew | dash exists for the purpose of not having stuff like completion which make bash slower |
| 18:38.17 | dirkson | jelly-hme: Oh. Hmm. |
| 18:38.33 | dirkson | stew: Oh! Ok, so users aren't /supposed/ to use it, just background programs |
| 18:38.33 | icefrog | it seems they changed something |
| 18:38.36 | frikinz | icefrog: you usually look at /etc/default/grub and do not edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 18:38.41 | amphi | benjamindees: see what it gets down after idling for a bit, perhaps |
| 18:38.51 | icefrog | i must edit /boot |
| 18:38.51 | jelly-hme | dirkson: use a smarter shell for interactive sessions, and leave /bin/sh lean (and less mean) |
| 18:38.58 | icefrog | its the only way |
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| 18:39.03 | stew | dirkson: yes, its so non-interactive stuff can go faster with a leaner shell |
| 18:39.15 | Hans_Henrik | can i use a debian network-installer i burned about a year ago for debian 5, to install debian 6? or do i need to burn a new CD? |
| 18:39.35 | sharp15 | frikinz: thanks. i'll read it once i get the rest of this running. |
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| 18:40.04 | pLk | apt-get is not able to resolve the server! but the ping of the address works... has someone an idea? |
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| 18:40.11 | b0nghitter | i would just have to edit the grub and mount points to reflect the drive change wouldnt i? |
| 18:40.30 | b0nghitter | or is there more |
| 18:40.50 | Iridos | Hans_Henrik, you could use it to install a minimal debian 5 and upgrade that to 6... but how much easier to burn a new cd |
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| 18:41.30 | Bushmills | b0nghitter: depends a bit on whether you use volume ids, device names or paritition labels |
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| 18:41.39 | frikinz | b0nghitter: you have to put grub in the mbr of the 2nd disk too |
| 18:41.54 | Bushmills | depending on what you use, you may have to update /etc/fstab as well |
| 18:42.09 | b0nghitter | hmm, ok thanks |
| 18:42.22 | frikinz | Bushmills: with labels? I have to begin using this.. |
| 18:42.38 | frikinz | or is there a way to force the uuid? humm |
| 18:42.42 | Bushmills | mkfs.ext3 -L foo /dev/.... |
| 18:43.10 | b0nghitter | debating on wether to install myself and have the datacenter just switch the hdd's around, or to wait hours and hours for them to switch then install from cd |
| 18:43.14 | Bushmills | kernel can be told label for root partition, also fstab accepts them |
| 18:43.19 | benjamindees | pLk, keep trying; there is a round robin on some |
| 18:43.35 | Bushmills | like, LABEL=swap ...... |
| 18:44.01 | frikinz | b0nghitter: if you do no mistake, it should work :) |
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| 18:44.33 | jeff_hann | Hans_Henrik, better save yourself the headache and burn a 6 CD |
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| 18:44.53 | alexxio | i noticed i installed a 686 kernel on my poor pentium 386, how to remove this kernel and install a 386 ? |
| 18:45.33 | alexxio | (pentium 4) |
| 18:45.51 | benjamindees | amphi, down to 70 dC |
| 18:45.55 | alexxio | maybe is kernel486? |
| 18:45.57 | jeff_hann | alexxio, pentium 4 is 686 |
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| 18:46.17 | amphi | benjamindees: that's still hot; mine idles at ~40â°C |
| 18:46.19 | Bushmills | alexxio: boot into a different system, mount partition of wrong installation, bind mount proc, dev and maybe sys, chroot to wrong installation, aptitude ... |
| 18:46.32 | amphi | benjamindees: 43â°C ATM |
| 18:46.48 | pLk | apt-get is not able to resolve the server! but the ping of the address works... has someone an idea? ipv6 is also disabled now |
| 18:47.13 | benjamindees | amphi, "it will almost always overheat when put on a mattress, for example, as it also has vents on the bottom of the laptop" http://www.windowsbbs.com/hardware/66141-constant-overheating-thinkpad-t60p.html |
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| 18:47.14 | pLk | i made an upgrade of lenny to squeeze and this is the last step "dist-upgrade" |
| 18:47.32 | alexxio | where can i see the best kernel for a pentium IV 1400Mhz? |
| 18:47.39 | alexxio | how to choose? |
| 18:47.53 | amphi | benjamindees: it still should not be ~70â°C idling, unless ambient temp is very high |
| 18:47.56 | jeff_hann | alexxio, like I said, 686 |
| 18:48.11 | abrotman | alexxio: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686 |
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| 18:48.24 | alexxio | thank yo, so it choosed automatically the best one |
| 18:48.27 | alexxio | *you |
| 18:48.28 | amphi | benjamindees: I expect it's just full of dust |
| 18:48.28 | MrFrood | alexxio: the 686 kernel should be fine |
| 18:48.34 | amphi | benjamindees: X61s here, by the way |
| 18:48.42 | EyesIsMine | If I run install Debian off a disk, but DON'T select it to install GRUB, how will I get it to boot? |
| 18:48.47 | alexxio | k thanks all |
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| 18:48.51 | benjamindees | amphi, could be a battery charging issue too; I just re-installed tp_smapi |
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| 18:49.17 | Bushmills | EyesIsMine, with whatever boot method you have chosen instead |
| 18:49.20 | amphi | benjamindees: mine doesn't get hot charging |
| 18:49.28 | b0nghitter | can i choose for it to install grub to the second drive? |
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| 18:49.35 | EyesIsMine | Bushmills: How do I get the win bootloader to do that> |
| 18:49.58 | alexxio | no way to get: 320x240 JPEG (JFIF) |
| 18:49.59 | alexxio | movie writer initialisation failed |
| 18:50.06 | alexxio | i get this error with the webcam |
| 18:50.07 | Bushmills | EyesIsMine, you'd install the boot loader to partition boot record, and set that one active in the windows bootloader |
| 18:50.20 | EyesIsMine | Err, okay? |
| 18:50.43 | Bushmills | or you boot into msdos, and use loadlin |
| 18:50.55 | EyesIsMine | Err |
| 18:51.47 | EyesIsMine | I use win7, then install debian WITHOUT grub, then get the windows bootloader to boot to debian if I want it to, how do I do that (in non-tech language) |
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| 18:52.06 | frikinz | EyesIsMine: everybody puts grub |
| 18:52.09 | Bushmills | you need some sort of boot loader. |
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| 18:52.46 | Bushmills | but you can choose to install it somewhere else, instead of where it would gain control first thing after boot |
| 18:52.58 | EyesIsMine | Hm |
| 18:53.47 | Wouterdt | I'm using this export in my /root/.barshrc: export PS1='\[\e[1;31m\][\u@\h \W]\$\[\e[0m\] ' |
| 18:53.53 | Wouterdt | and now /home/ shows up as hmee: [root@fileserver hmee]# |
| 18:53.59 | g0rd0n | help! my initscripts package seems to be broken, i get lots of errors and can't remove it because of dependencies, and can't do anything else with apt as it will fail on initscripts each time. what can i do? |
| 18:54.00 | Wouterdt | using a clean install of squeeze |
| 18:54.16 | EyesIsMine | I have my MBR ( I think) on my 500GB drive (SATA 1, first boot drive in BIOS) and if I installed deb on my SATA 2 drive, would I be able to do something to get win boot to boot into it? |
| 18:54.17 | thewanderer1 | Wouterdt: known bug. |
| 18:54.32 | Wouterdt | thewanderer1: ok, where's the bug in? Dash? |
| 18:54.34 | thewanderer1 | (it works with some other values, too: try /root) |
| 18:54.44 | thewanderer1 | Wouterdt: bash, and it's not reported in Debian but known upstream |
| 18:54.49 | stew | g0rd0n: does it not also tell you how to resolve the problems? |
| 18:54.52 | thewanderer1 | so hopefully it will get pulled sometime soon... |
| 18:55.02 | thewanderer1 | (fixed in Gentoo) |
| 18:55.12 | g0rd0n | stew: nope! want me to pastebin the output? |
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| 18:55.33 | stew | g0rd0n: yes |
| 18:55.46 | Bushmills | !why aptitude |
| 18:55.46 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades (lenny->squeeze) apt-get is better though. Be careful. |
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| 18:55.55 | Bushmills | g0rd0n: ^^^ |
| 18:56.02 | armetiz | Hi there, i'm looking for automatic install of Debian.. |
| 18:56.08 | armetiz | Do you know a way to do that ? |
| 18:56.09 | thewanderer1 | Bushmills: actually, this looks like a dpkg failure... |
| 18:56.16 | armetiz | By using a file with auto-response ? |
| 18:56.24 | thewanderer1 | !tell armetiz about preseeding |
| 18:56.28 | g0rd0n | stew: http://pastebin.com/90ZTd0nV |
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| 18:56.57 | sharp15 | when aptitude shows a list of packages to install sometimes there is a {a} after the package name. what is that? |
| 18:57.14 | g0rd0n | Bushmills: same problem with aptitude |
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| 18:57.17 | armetiz | thanks thewanderer1 ! |
| 18:57.46 | thewanderer1 | sharp15: the package is automatically pulled in by dependencies |
| 18:58.01 | Bushmills | where does lookup-domain come from? |
| 18:58.18 | g0rd0n | Bushmills: i have no idea |
| 18:58.20 | sharp15 | ok and when i run a search the first character on the line seems to be a status marker. is there a list of these? |
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| 18:59.19 | Bushmills | g0rd0n: i can't find it in any debian package. remove run level links to it for now, and try again |
| 18:59.34 | g0rd0n | Bushmills: where can i find them? |
| 18:59.35 | stew | sharp15: look in the README for aptitude after install aptitude-doc-en (or some other language if you don't want en). its in "Figure 2.9" |
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| 18:59.55 | g0rd0n | oh! it's webmin stuff :P *ashamed* |
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| 19:00.59 | g0rd0n | Bushmills: so i guess you mean i should remove /etc/rc*.d/S99lookup-domain |
| 19:01.00 | sharp15 | stew, thewanderer1: thank you. |
| 19:01.05 | Bushmills | g0rd0n: check out update-rc.d or the /etc/rc?.d directories |
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| 19:01.06 | g0rd0n | Bushmills: ok thank you |
| 19:01.10 | Acony | so I need some tool for batch change of pictures metadata, anyone knows some tool for that ? |
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| 19:02.38 | Bushmills | Acony: jpg? |
| 19:02.50 | thewanderer1 | Acony: for JPEG try exiv2 and do some bash magic |
| 19:03.23 | thewanderer1 | (if you prefer PHP, it has an extension for EXIF...) |
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| 19:04.07 | raidghost | I must say that i really love ubuntu. my wireless card wont detect in windows |
| 19:04.11 | Acony | thewanderer1, yeap I know for exiv2, but I was hoping that someone can tell me how to simple change the date taken with it |
| 19:04.14 | raidghost | But it works perfect in ubuntu. hehehe |
| 19:04.22 | Acony | however I will need to go trough manual |
| 19:04.23 | g0rd0n | Bushmills: heh, i'm still getting errors but not so severe, aptitude upgrade is upgrading the other packages now :) |
| 19:04.30 | Acony | obviously :D |
| 19:04.48 | sharp15 | how do i list files provided by a package? |
| 19:04.53 | benjamindees | amphi, it's been on a flat surface for a while and now it's 51dC; I will open it up and clean it I guess; does yours have vents on the bottom too? |
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| 19:05.23 | thewanderer1 | sharp15: dpkg -L packagename |
| 19:05.23 | sharp15 | which group/user does openvpn create/use? |
| 19:05.27 | Bushmills | g0rd0n: any chance you have installed ubuntu packages in your debian system? |
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| 19:07.19 | g0rd0n | Bushmills: nope, but i did something similar probably, which makes me feel ashamed now |
| 19:07.20 | stew | sharp15: none, afaik, if you want to double check, it would be happening in /var/lib/dpkg/info/openvpn.postinst |
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| 19:08.03 | Bushmills | "something similar" is, installing debian packages in your ubuntu system? |
| 19:08.16 | sharp15 | stew: double checked. it doesn't. |
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| 19:11.46 | bczx | he |
| 19:11.51 | bczx | hi |
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| 19:11.57 | g0rd0n | Bushmills: hehe nono, i installed virtualmin gpl by letting it think it was debian 5.0 |
| 19:12.06 | g0rd0n | runs |
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| 19:12.49 | bczx | anyone like squeeze |
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| 19:13.04 | Bushmills | nobody does. |
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| 19:13.27 | Bushmills | all potato sentimentalists here |
| 19:14.11 | bczx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.24 | Bushmills | prove it |
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| 19:15.14 | bczx | come on, come on people |
| 19:15.29 | Lirezh__ | I've a real bad issue: I've a class c locally configured on my server. But since a short time (the server was untouched!) the kernel keeps using the first IP. I can bind to IP #2 successfully but tcpdump shows the IP #1 is used |
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| 19:15.48 | bczx | anyone? |
| 19:15.54 | Lirezh__ | Anyone every seen something like that ? I first thought the kernel is the issue but a reboot didn't show any change |
| 19:16.22 | bczx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.32 | bczx | and is great |
| 19:16.53 | bczx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.15 | pipeline | Lirezh__: do you have NAT rules in iptables spewing garbage ? |
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| 19:17.25 | Lirezh__ | nope |
| 19:17.37 | pipeline | Lirezh__: are you sure ? |
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| 19:17.40 | Lirezh__ | yes 100% sure |
| 19:17.52 | bczx | yes new day is coming ............................... |
| 19:18.01 | Lirezh__ | the crazy thing is: some time ago everything was working .. I had tested everything well |
| 19:18.03 | benjamindees | bczx, I've been using Squeeze for a year or so and it's great since I disabled drm in xorg. |
| 19:18.06 | Lirezh__ | server untouched |
| 19:18.12 | bczx | good day sunshine |
| 19:18.19 | Lirezh__ | I can still reach the IPs from the outside but I can not use them on the inside |
| 19:18.39 | bczx | ben |
| 19:18.49 | Lirezh__ | so accessing any of the IPs on a various port shows the right thing in tcpdump. also the answer (connection refused) has the right IP |
| 19:18.51 | smacnay | Is there any app in Debian that will work with an iPod Nano (newer model)? |
| 19:18.54 | bczx | can i call you ben |
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| 19:19.00 | smacnay | gtkpod is not current enough |
| 19:19.09 | benjamindees | don't call me surely |
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| 19:22.10 | Lirezh__ | I suppose the kernel is fucked up .. tcpip stack |
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| 19:24.51 | pipeline | smacnay: iirc you need ifuse + gtkpod from unstable |
| 19:24.59 | pipeline | smacnay: I have an iphone 3g and it just started working :) |
| 19:25.03 | pipeline | smacnay: recently |
| 19:25.22 | smacnay | pipeline, thanks - I don't think the version of the nano that my kids have is supported by gtkpod. |
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| 19:25.43 | pipeline | smacnay: worst comes to worst, build gtkpod from svn |
| 19:25.48 | pipeline | smacnay: the hard part is ifuse |
| 19:26.09 | smacnay | pipeline, thanks for the info |
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| 19:38.41 | EyesIsMine | Hm |
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| 19:38.58 | EyesIsMine | Will installing 837 packages on a 20GB partition kill my system? |
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| 19:39.45 | rudi_s | EyesIsMine: Depends on the packages ;-) But shouldn't be a problem. |
| 19:40.01 | amphi | balleyne: there's a small vent on the bottom, the main one is at the side |
| 19:40.12 | amphi | benjamindees: ^^ |
| 19:40.15 | EyesIsMine | In aptitude (teminal command aptititude) I installed the ENTIRE games section., |
| 19:40.22 | amphi | balleyne: sorry, ETAB |
| 19:40.31 | EyesIsMine | And it broke. |
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| 19:41.47 | karlpinc | !tell EyesIsMine about doesn't work |
| 19:41.55 | EyesIsMine | .. |
| 19:42.20 | EyesIsMine | I never said "it doesnt work" |
| 19:42.46 | EyesIsMine | I only asked if installing the ENTIRE games section from Aptitude will kill my sys on a 20GB partition |
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| 19:43.18 | karlpinc | EyesIsMine: You said "it broke". If you want help fixing it you'll have to be more specific. If you want to gripe, there's #debian-offtopic for that. |
| 19:43.27 | EyesIsMine | ... |
| 19:43.40 | EyesIsMine | That wasnt a plea for help. |
| 19:43.42 | rudi_s | EyesIsMine: As I already said it depends on the packages. Check if you have enough space and try it. |
| 19:43.57 | EyesIsMine | rudi_s: Ah, thank you |
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| 19:44.09 | EyesIsMine | I'm gonna add more space as a backup anyway |
| 19:44.23 | rudi_s | np |
| 19:44.24 | karlpinc | EyesIsMine: Also check out "aptitude clean". |
| 19:44.31 | jimcooncat | EyesIsMine if I'm not mistaken, root reserves some space to work so filling up a partition with packages won't crash the system |
| 19:44.42 | EyesIsMine | Ah. |
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| 19:45.05 | EyesIsMine | I heard this story that somebody installed lots of packages and the system refused to boot |
| 19:45.08 | jimcooncat | EyesIsMine but if you do that don't run it that way for long |
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| 19:45.55 | jimcooncat | Depending on the filesystem, over 80% full causes performance problems |
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| 19:46.29 | EyesIsMine | Its a vm anyway |
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| 19:48.35 | gueriLLaPunK | im trying to get speedtest.net to work in FF on debian |
| 19:48.42 | gueriLLaPunK | i did apt-get install flashplugin-installer |
| 19:48.48 | gueriLLaPunK | the site loads, but when i click on a city, it does nothing |
| 19:48.54 | gueriLLaPunK | ive uninstalled and reinstalled |
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| 19:53.46 | frikinz | gueriLLaPunK: you have also problems with other flash website? |
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| 19:55.34 | Iridos | flashplugin-installer? |
| 19:55.54 | Iridos | It's flashplugin-nonfree in contrib or flashplayer-mozilla from debian multimedia |
| 19:56.40 | gueriLLaPunK | frikinz, yeah, other flash sites work |
| 19:56.44 | gueriLLaPunK | maybe its java |
| 19:56.46 | gueriLLaPunK | i tried apt-get install openjdk-6-jre |
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| 19:57.03 | gueriLLaPunK | do i need to install java for FF? |
| 19:57.08 | frikinz | no,flash. |
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| 19:57.48 | frikinz | you could try chromium for problematic sites. in FF 4 and flash 10 on a 32bit it works here |
| 19:58.02 | gueriLLaPunK | sudo apt-get install chromium |
| 19:58.03 | gueriLLaPunK | ? |
| 19:58.44 | frikinz | chromium-browser |
| 19:59.18 | gueriLLaPunK | E: Invalid operation chromium-browser |
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| 20:00.09 | Number6 | Upgraded from Lenny to squeeze - munin looks broken. Any ideas? Just keep getting a 403 forbidden error |
| 20:00.41 | gueriLLaPunK | eh, i downloaded chrome browser |
| 20:01.01 | gueriLLaPunK | what do i open a .deb with? im using VNC and my gui is fluxbox |
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| 20:01.36 | MrFrood | gueriLLaPunK: dpkg |
| 20:01.40 | crash | dpkg -i blabla.deb :D |
| 20:01.40 | dpkg | package blabla.deb :D is already installed |
| 20:02.20 | gueriLLaPunK | ty |
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| 20:03.05 | EyesIsMine | dpkg |
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| 20:03.53 | gueriLLaPunK | ok, its installed |
| 20:03.56 | gueriLLaPunK | lol, now where is it? |
| 20:04.01 | gueriLLaPunK | sorry, im a total noob |
| 20:04.47 | frikinz | Number6: check permissions/ownership of /var/cache/munin/www and your httpd conf ? |
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| 20:05.11 | frikinz | munin:munin should be |
| 20:05.12 | MrFrood | gueriLLaPunK: try the 'whereis' command |
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| 20:05.20 | clby | hello ive been using linux on and off for several years i need a refresher course. any good sites for setting up nas/media station type server |
| 20:05.37 | llutz | Number6: lighhtpd? |
| 20:05.42 | Number6 | llutz: apache |
| 20:05.52 | crash | just press alt-f2 and write chromium and it should fire up |
| 20:05.54 | Number6 | I'm looking at the ownerships now. Permissions seem fine |
| 20:05.59 | clby | its for client and they will be running 7/8 windows so i need it to be seamless transfer |
| 20:06.07 | gueriLLaPunK | mrfood -- guerillapunk@ns213472:~$ whereis chrome |
| 20:06.07 | gueriLLaPunK | chrome: |
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| 20:06.49 | gueriLLaPunK | crash -- i tried chrome and chromium |
| 20:06.51 | MrFrood | google-chrome |
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| 20:06.51 | gueriLLaPunK | and nothing started |
| 20:07.05 | frikinz | chromium-browser |
| 20:07.26 | gueriLLaPunK | google-chrome: /usr/bin/google-chrome /usr/share/man/man1/google-chrome.1 |
| 20:07.43 | frikinz | huh wait |
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| 20:09.02 | evilgenius101 | How can i change language in debian. via shell |
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| 20:10.03 | GJdan | hey, any idea why I can't install rsync? Seems it's partially installed, and I got some sort of protocol error involving it when I tried to install GIT |
| 20:10.12 | GJdan | looks like it gets stuck in some sort of infinite loop |
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| 20:12.05 | bluegene_ | reinstall it? |
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| 20:12.58 | evilgenius101 | Can i dismiss autoremove from apt-get ? it already cost me a whole installation once. |
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| 20:15.26 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell evilgenius101 about unmarkauto |
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| 20:16.54 | Virtual | What is the best lightweight vpn server I can install from the repository ? |
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| 20:17.30 | jelly-home | lightweight? vpn isn't a cpu intensive app |
| 20:17.38 | jelly-home | (well, not much) |
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| 20:18.18 | Virtual | jelly-home I mean I want to set it up on a VPS |
| 20:18.33 | Virtual | and probably only will have one connection at any given time to it |
| 20:18.33 | Bop | Virtual machine ? |
| 20:18.44 | evilgenius101 | OpenVZ ? |
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| 20:20.19 | Virtual | i think the vps is setup with xen |
| 20:20.23 | Virtual | I have debian running on it |
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| 20:21.29 | Virtual | I will give pptpd a try |
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| 20:23.30 | gueriLLaPunK | i had to do apt-get -f install |
| 20:23.34 | gueriLLaPunK | to get chrome to install properly |
| 20:23.39 | gueriLLaPunK | shrugs |
| 20:23.44 | gueriLLaPunK | but now speedtest.net works |
| 20:23.45 | ariaxu | gueriLLaPunK: best domain evar |
| 20:23.48 | gueriLLaPunK | LOL thanks |
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| 20:24.33 | gueriLLaPunK | i just use it for rDNS. i dont host a site or anything on it |
| 20:25.27 | gueriLLaPunK | www.speedtest.net/result/1153407681.png |
| 20:25.37 | ariaxu | wonder if I could get my ISP to delegate reverse DNS to me |
| 20:25.50 | Virtual | gueriLLaPunK lol, nice result |
| 20:25.58 | ariaxu | haha, I get faster than that at my DC |
| 20:26.09 | ariaxu | pretty poor upload! j/k |
| 20:26.36 | ariaxu | is stuck on a 6Mbit DSL connection at the moment |
| 20:26.53 | gueriLLaPunK | ariaxu, if u have a static ip, u can. my home ISP let me delegated my own reverse DNS |
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| 20:27.11 | Virtual | gueriLLaPunK do you have a DC or something for that speeD? |
| 20:27.13 | gueriLLaPunK | that speedtest isnt my home connection, its my box |
| 20:27.18 | gueriLLaPunK | box at a DC |
| 20:27.21 | ariaxu | gueriLLaPunK: Figured :) |
| 20:27.22 | Virtual | aha |
| 20:27.35 | gueriLLaPunK | my home connection isnt too shabby, however |
| 20:27.38 | Virtual | ovh systems, I might get a box there if they have such good speeds:P |
| 20:27.41 | gueriLLaPunK | http://www.speedtest.net/rank/1120770609.png |
| 20:27.46 | gueriLLaPunK | yeah, its legit |
| 20:27.49 | gueriLLaPunK | www.ovh.com |
| 20:27.54 | gueriLLaPunK | for english, www.ovh.ie |
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| 20:28.06 | ariaxu | gueriLLaPunK: where are they located? |
| 20:28.10 | gueriLLaPunK | france |
| 20:28.18 | Virtual | gueriLLaPunK i see they have ovh.co.uk as well... |
| 20:28.18 | frikinz | aww too bad |
| 20:28.28 | gueriLLaPunK | yeah, but you cant order from ovh.co.uk |
| 20:28.34 | gueriLLaPunK | unless you're in the UK ;) |
| 20:28.55 | Virtual | aha |
| 20:28.58 | gueriLLaPunK | they just recently allowed US and Canadian customers to order from 'em |
| 20:29.00 | ariaxu | I want a slot at that Swiss underground DC that Wikileaks got into, just for the cool factor. I'd walk in there and do my best evil-scientist laugh |
| 20:29.09 | Virtual | I am in ireland anyway |
| 20:29.14 | gueriLLaPunK | indeed! |
| 20:29.28 | ariaxu | wonder what happened to Sealand |
| 20:29.44 | gueriLLaPunK | oh, very good, Virtual |
| 20:29.58 | daemonkeeper | Sealand? You ever saw their prices for ridiculously 2Mb or so? |
| 20:30.05 | ariaxu | oh I know |
| 20:30.14 | ariaxu | made no sense |
| 20:30.35 | daemonkeeper | Unless you are Bin Laden personally, this makes no sense, indeed. |
| 20:30.41 | gueriLLaPunK | i cant find a fast enough server for speedtest |
| 20:30.42 | gueriLLaPunK | blah |
| 20:31.14 | g0rd0n | i have a serial console and i dont see the boot progress until the login prompt, i just see a blank screen and at some point the login prompt pops up |
| 20:31.19 | g0rd0n | what could the problem be? |
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| 20:32.11 | ariaxu | g0rd0n: is your bootloader set to dump to serial? |
| 20:32.20 | boudiccas | g0rd0n, dirty glasses |
| 20:32.38 | g0rd0n | ariaxu: oh :) |
| 20:33.13 | ariaxu | g0rd0n: http://www.iitk.ac.in/LDP/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/index.html |
| 20:33.38 | ariaxu | g0rd0n: just make sure that whatever settings you choose are the same as the OS uses |
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| 20:34.34 | SuperHarissa | yo |
| 20:34.37 | SuperHarissa | I have a problem on my debian, when I turn on the PC, everything goes normally (bios, grub), then the system components and load it after that it crashes (clocksource tsc unstable) |
| 20:34.50 | g0rd0n | ariaxu: ok, i will take them from inittab |
| 20:35.20 | SuperHarissa | Can someone help me? please |
| 20:35.22 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: Your CPU is refusing to co-operate with the system as it attempts to control the CPU's clock rate. |
| 20:35.41 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: what's the chipset |
| 20:35.52 | benjamindees | SuperHarissa, yeah what cpu? |
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| 20:36.15 | SuperHarissa | hmm |
| 20:36.20 | benjamindees | use the 486 kernel |
| 20:36.24 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: you will want to change the clocksource on the kernel command line |
| 20:36.37 | SuperHarissa | how do I know? |
| 20:36.38 | ariaxu | or yeah, use the 486 kernel, that will work |
| 20:37.51 | SuperHarissa | I am a newbie, and I do not speak English very well on top of that. |
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| 20:38.13 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: do you know how to modify the kernel command line during boot? |
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| 20:38.43 | SuperHarissa | No |
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| 20:38.59 | SuperHarissa | could you explain in detail the steps to follow please |
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| 20:39.13 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: in grub, you want to press E before booting, find the line that starts with 'kernel' and add clocksource=acpi_pm to the end of it |
| 20:39.32 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: that should get you booted up |
| 20:39.52 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: then you will have to edit your grub.conf to make the option permanent |
| 20:40.11 | SuperHarissa | ok |
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| 20:40.22 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: sorry, I can't stay to talk... back later if you need some help |
| 20:40.43 | SuperHarissa | ok |
| 20:40.46 | SuperHarissa | ty so much |
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| 20:42.11 | f3xy | when do you folks think it will be safe upgrade to wheezy? |
| 20:42.16 | f3xy | safe to upgrade |
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| 20:42.30 | robokop | f3xy: when it is released |
| 20:42.34 | ariaxu | f3xy: for a desktop or a server |
| 20:42.38 | f3xy | desktop |
| 20:42.45 | SuperHarissa | hmm |
| 20:42.48 | ariaxu | f3xy: whenever you feel like dealing with breakage then |
| 20:43.04 | f3xy | haha I was running squeeze for quite a while and didn't suffer any breakage |
| 20:43.24 | ariaxu | within the last year, breaage was rare. Earlier in the cycle, though, that wasn't true |
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| 20:43.48 | f3xy | ah |
| 20:43.51 | SuperHarissa | I have no lines beginning with kernel |
| 20:44.02 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: what do they begin with |
| 20:44.08 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: sorry, operating from memory |
| 20:44.10 | thinksteve | :q |
| 20:44.23 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: Are you in the bootloader or editing the config file? |
| 20:44.26 | thinksteve | Whoops. wrong terminal |
| 20:44.36 | SuperHarissa | i'm in the grub |
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| 20:44.39 | ariaxu | thinksteve: :q! |
| 20:44.50 | Dustymite | f3xy: Isn't squeeze stable? Did you suffer breakage after or before it became stable? |
| 20:45.06 | f3xy | I didn't suffer any breakage |
| 20:45.15 | f3xy | well I did when I was running sid for a while |
| 20:45.16 | thinksteve | ariaxu: Didn't change anything :P |
| 20:45.17 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: do you see a line with disk UIDs on it? |
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| 20:45.21 | f3xy | that was interesting but time consuming |
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| 20:45.38 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: a line with root=xxxxx? |
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| 20:45.56 | SuperHarissa | no |
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| 20:46.07 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: what do you see |
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| 20:47.17 | SuperHarissa | I have to press E before or during grub? |
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| 20:47.56 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: when you see the list of boot options, highlight the top one and press E |
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| 20:48.21 | SuperHarissa | ok |
| 20:48.23 | SuperHarissa | that's what I'm doing |
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| 20:48.39 | ariaxu | and when you've pressed e, you should see a list of commands |
| 20:48.44 | ariaxu | do you see it? |
| 20:48.45 | SuperHarissa | yes |
| 20:48.56 | ariaxu | do you see a line with a root=xxxxx option on it? |
| 20:48.58 | SuperHarissa | insmod part_msdos |
| 20:49.04 | SuperHarissa | insmod ext2 |
| 20:49.12 | SuperHarissa | ah |
| 20:49.13 | SuperHarissa | yes |
| 20:49.19 | ariaxu | go to the end of that line |
| 20:49.39 | ariaxu | and add clocksource=acpi_pm |
| 20:49.50 | ariaxu | then look at the bottom of the screen |
| 20:49.54 | SuperHarissa | set root='(hd0,msdos1)'* |
| 20:50.03 | ariaxu | ok no |
| 20:50.06 | ariaxu | wrong line |
| 20:50.29 | SuperHarissa | ah |
| 20:50.29 | extraclassic | is there a way to search packages with apt-get....bash completion isn't working for me |
| 20:50.38 | ariaxu | do you see a line that starts with kernel |
| 20:51.01 | SuperHarissa | bla bla root=UUID=f5b66041 bla bla |
| 20:51.06 | jelly-home | extraclassic: there's apt-cache search and aptitude search. |
| 20:51.09 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: that's the one |
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| 20:51.14 | SuperHarissa | ok |
| 20:51.45 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: when you have added the clocksource to the end of that line, look below the list and it should tell you what to press to boot |
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| 20:52.00 | ariaxu | might be control-something |
| 20:52.25 | SuperHarissa | oops |
| 20:52.53 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: if you screw up, just reboot and try again, all of these changes get lost on reboot |
| 20:53.08 | SuperHarissa | I can not find the button on the keyboard qwerty _ |
| 20:53.24 | SuperHarissa | --> _ |
| 20:53.45 | ariaxu | usually in top right next to the plus key |
| 20:55.48 | ariaxu | SuperHarissa: Anyway when you figure it out and boot works, apt-get install linux-image-486 |
| 20:55.54 | PinkFreud | hey folks. I had an open bug which was automatically closed when dhcp3 was removed. The problem is, the bug still exists in the squeeze release. |
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| 20:56.12 | php101uk | URGENT: Guys, I need to recover around 100 files I have accidentally deleted from an ext4 file system - I'm desperate - can anyone help? :'( |
| 20:56.17 | PinkFreud | trying to figure out if there's a way to reopen and reassign the bug, or if I should just file a new one. |
| 20:56.28 | SuperHarissa | it works yet: ( |
| 20:56.31 | ariaxu | PinkFreud: extundelete is your friend |
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| 20:56.49 | PinkFreud | ariaxu: I highly doubt that will help me. |
| 20:56.51 | PinkFreud | :) |
| 20:56.54 | ariaxu | sorry wrong nick |
| 20:56.56 | ariaxu | haha |
| 20:57.02 | ariaxu | php101uk: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:57.22 | ariaxu | php101uk: stop using the filesystem. Unmount it immediately |
| 20:57.44 | php101uk | ariaxu - Can't - I'm using it now |
| 20:57.44 | ariaxu | php101uk: run extundelete on the block device while it's unmounted |
| 20:57.51 | SuperHarissa | I can do apt-get install linux-image-486 in troubleshooting mode ? |
| 20:58.03 | ariaxu | php101uk: argh. Is it your home partition? |
| 20:58.07 | php101uk | yeah |
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| 20:59.09 | ariaxu | php101uk: get extundelete on a USB key or something, reboot into recovery mode, unmount /home, and run it from the usb key |
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| 20:59.31 | php101uk | ok - why unmount? - I'm sorry to sound thick but I don't understand that |
| 20:59.40 | php101uk | How to unmount and remount? |
| 20:59.49 | ariaxu | php101uk do you understand the difference between a filesystem and a block device? |
| 21:00.07 | php101uk | no |
| 21:00.36 | SuperHarissa | Good, I'm sick, I'll re-install debian, I have no files to lose, it's just boring |
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| 21:00.45 | SuperHarissa | thank you so much ariaxu |
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| 21:00.57 | MojoWork | hi folks. |
| 21:01.02 | ariaxu | php101uk: Sorry, I don't have time to explain any further. if you are still here when I get back, I'll ping you. |
| 21:01.12 | php101uk | Thanks |
| 21:01.17 | ariaxu | php101uk: STOP using your filesystem if you want those files to be recoverable |
| 21:01.22 | php101uk | ok |
| 21:01.33 | ariaxu | php101uk: find another disk to boot from |
| 21:01.37 | MojoWork | we've got a new hire who's only got some AIX user experience, and we've got Maverick on her desktop, so i'm looking for some suggestions on starter linux books, perferably ubuntu specific |
| 21:01.39 | php101uk | got one |
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| 21:02.12 | PinkFreud | er, any ideas on how to re-oepn and re-assign an archived bug? |
| 21:03.35 | f3xy | MojoWork: there is some really really basic linux stuff on google university http://code.google.com/edu/tools101/index.html |
| 21:03.58 | abrotman | MojoWork: go ask #ubuntu, this is #debian |
| 21:04.17 | MojoWork | abrotman: doh! |
| 21:04.22 | abrotman | thought so |
| 21:04.23 | MojoWork | habbit, sorry :( |
| 21:04.37 | MojoWork | but suggestions for beginner linux books are still good |
| 21:04.50 | MojoWork | i learned myself using man and irc and such |
| 21:04.55 | abrotman | MojoWork: debian.org has plenty of links, none of it ubuntu-specific .. have a nice day! |
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| 21:05.04 | MojoWork | but i knew commercial unix pretty well first |
| 21:05.05 | f3xy | just reinstall her work station without x |
| 21:05.11 | f3xy | she'll learn ;) |
| 21:05.12 | abrotman | just take it to #ubuntu please |
| 21:05.28 | MojoWork | abrotman: we run debian on the servers, so debian books are good too |
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| 21:06.34 | MojoWork | i'm curious: in the debian community, is there as much dislike for other debian based distros as there seems to be for ubuntu? |
| 21:06.39 | f3xy | MojoWork: books.google.com type in debian :D |
| 21:06.53 | MojoWork | or is it just that lots of nooby ubuntu people end up here and ya'll are tired of it? |
| 21:06.54 | maligor | MojoWork, it's a case, there's a lot of people here, don't do out of topic |
| 21:07.02 | maligor | MojoWork, it's not personal |
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| 21:07.27 | MojoWork | maligor: i've spent some time here because i ran sid on the desktop for about 6 years |
| 21:07.32 | abrotman | MojoWork: don't take this personally, but it's not a topic for #debian .. #debian supports Debian, not based-on-debian .. and it's not a place for this discussion either |
| 21:07.55 | MojoWork | abrotman: very well |
| 21:08.12 | abrotman | not trying to be an ass .. but it very quickly leads to a pissing match |
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| 21:08.34 | MojoWork | i can see that (but you wouldn't get that from me ;) |
| 21:08.47 | abrotman | you can bother #debian-offtopic if you really want to talk about it |
| 21:08.48 | MojoWork | hugs debian |
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| 21:09.06 | MojoWork | i'm so happy squeeze is finally out |
| 21:09.15 | MojoWork | gonna be upgrading my colo lenny boxen this weekend |
| 21:09.29 | f3xy | update aptitude first |
| 21:09.30 | MojoWork | figured i'd wait until after the initial crush of people passed |
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| 21:10.13 | MojoWork | f3xy: is that in the release notes? IIRC there's some specific pointers for in-place upgrades from lenny |
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| 21:10.21 | abrotman | !tell MojoWork about lenny->squeeze |
| 21:10.22 | mergiani | ciao |
| 21:10.23 | MojoWork | i was looking it over week before last |
| 21:10.32 | simonrvn | MojoWork: no dislike, just generally flooded, but not as much as it used to be. |
| 21:10.43 | simonrvn | </ot> |
| 21:10.56 | MojoWork | ah yes |
| 21:11.12 | MojoWork | i'm good to go i think because i'm already running a kernel from backports |
| 21:11.30 | MojoWork | so i've already jumped that hurdle |
| 21:11.55 | MojoWork | i had snagged that to get a more recent implementation of drbd |
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| 21:14.01 | MojoWork | anyway, sorry about the ubuntu questions, i meant to join #ubuntu but the damn fingers have memory of their own ;) |
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| 21:16.01 | PinkFreud | hrmph. no one here knows how to reopen and reassign an archived bug? |
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| 21:19.13 | Iridos | you send mails with instructions :) |
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| 21:21.10 | Iridos | actually, I think just adding to the bug automatically reopens it |
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| 21:21.57 | evilgenius101 | is it possible to find out what problems prevented last reboot? |
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| 21:22.01 | evilgenius101 | any logs ? |
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| 21:22.24 | Iridos | PinkFreud, and this really isn't so hard to find starting from bugs.debian.org: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#requestserv |
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| 21:22.50 | PinkFreud | Iridos: that might help... bug then I need to figure out how to reassign the bug, since the package apparently no longer exists. |
| 21:22.55 | Iridos | evilgenius101, not usually |
| 21:22.57 | PinkFreud | (the bug, sadly, has persisted) |
| 21:23.09 | evilgenius101 | Iridos, Ok. |
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| 21:23.20 | evilgenius101 | And whats the common cause of Seg faults ? |
| 21:23.45 | Iridos | evilgenius101, it's pretty common that the reboot causes the logfiles not to be written... |
| 21:24.29 | evilgenius101 | i'm switching kernel and next reboot i'll be stuck again waiting for server support .. i hope not tho |
| 21:24.30 | Iridos | linux uses cached writing... so things aren't written immediately, while crashes pretty often are rather immediately |
| 21:24.43 | PinkFreud | Iridos: excellent. I'll read through that and attempt to reopen the bug later. |
| 21:24.58 | Iridos | evilgenius101, there's all kinds of consoles for that... serial console or even netconsole |
| 21:25.01 | Iridos | !netconsole |
| 21:25.02 | dpkg | netconsole is a Linux kernel driver which logs kernel <printk> messages over UDP. It is commonly used to capture system crash information. http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt . See also <serial console>. |
| 21:25.23 | Iridos | (that's assuming that some failure in the kernel causes the reboot) |
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| 21:25.59 | evilgenius101 | I'll take a dive. currently its running a firmware from server company, its branded. i'm going with linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 |
| 21:26.03 | Iridos | evilgenius101, you should of course still check /var/log/messages for any clues that might be present |
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| 21:28.30 | evilgenius101 | messages has a proper boot up and last message was my reboot command |
| 21:28.39 | devyll | any ideea where can I find coretemp source module to compile it in a debian box ? I can't seem to find the source code for this module anywhare .. |
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| 21:30.41 | evilgenius101 | Iridos, one last question. does it sound ok for a i7 server with 8gb ram to take 13 mins to boot up ? |
| 21:30.50 | NewUbuntu | hi.. i need help help on how to install ZTE 3G modem on debian |
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| 21:32.01 | maligor | evilgenius101, that's quite long, but it depends on the speed of the mass storage (hard drives) rather than memory and the amount of services (and what services) |
| 21:32.02 | Sashi | hello, i installed vsftpd but there is not init.d script |
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| 21:32.34 | cahoot | NewUbuntu: installed usb-modeswitch? |
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| 21:33.44 | NewUbuntu | thanks |
| 21:33.54 | NewUbuntu | let me check that |
| 21:33.55 | evilgenius101 | Rebooting @ 33mins. will try to access again in 5 mins. |
| 21:33.56 | NewUbuntu | brb |
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| 21:34.48 | benjamindees | devyll, it's in the kernel package; you should have it already |
| 21:35.07 | Sashi | does anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 21:35.26 | bluegene_ | what's the best way to exclude an ip for a certain fail2ban rule? |
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| 21:35.37 | evilgenius101 | maligor, could it be a kernel is damn slow to start up ? |
| 21:36.04 | NewUbuntu | yes i have usb-modeswitch installed |
| 21:36.09 | evilgenius101 | mailgor, seems like that was it. it took 2 mins this time |
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| 21:36.15 | NewUbuntu | i double checked the packages |
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| 21:37.15 | maligor | evilgenius101, well, the terminal on the booting machine should give a clue to that |
| 21:37.32 | maligor | evilgenius101, it's possible the kernel is stopping at some point in the boot process |
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| 21:37.54 | cahoot | NewUbuntu: studied dmesg after inserting the device? any error? |
| 21:38.04 | evilgenius101 | maligor, All i have it SSH access to the machine. German Support, they skip out on ... details they can't translate in english |
| 21:39.04 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.14 | adb | commands* |
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| 21:39.56 | Voldenet | Hello, why samba package doesn't create /etc/samba folder? |
| 21:40.15 | abrotman | samba-common |
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| 21:40.39 | Voldenet | samba-common doesnt either |
| 21:40.50 | Voldenet | After that: |
| 21:40.51 | Voldenet | Starting Samba daemons: nmbd failed! |
| 21:40.58 | Sashi | hello.... how do i fix missing init.d scripts? |
| 21:41.08 | justin | Voldenet: did you delete /etc/samba or something? |
| 21:41.11 | abrotman | Voldenet: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 21:41.19 | Voldenet | justin: certainly I did |
| 21:41.24 | abrotman | Sashi: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 21:41.39 | Voldenet | But since i got no samba on my machine, i should be able to install it again. |
| 21:41.46 | justin | so what you meant to ask was, "Why doesn't samba package create /etc/samba after I deleted it" |
| 21:41.55 | Voldenet | No. |
| 21:42.02 | Voldenet | Why dpkg-reconfigure doesn't creat that. |
| 21:42.12 | abrotman | it's not supposed to |
| 21:42.16 | justin | because removing a package is not the same as purging it |
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| 21:42.33 | Voldenet | Ah. |
| 21:42.49 | Zblakany | in lenny after apt-get upgrade i got this: http://pastebin.com/AvUwHYp5 |
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| 21:42.52 | Voldenet | purging didn't help either. :) |
| 21:42.53 | Zblakany | how can i fix this? |
| 21:43.01 | evilgenius101 | Any Solution to this -- >http://paste2.org/p/1242117 |
| 21:43.16 | datacrusher | hello everyonw, im trying to burn a .vob file iv recently edited in kdenlive, but k3b gives me an error. Im using debian 64 |
| 21:43.19 | daemonkeeper | dpkg-reconfigure locales, choose your locales |
| 21:43.22 | daemonkeeper | *locale |
| 21:43.28 | SimonS | thats what i wanted to type ;) |
| 21:43.30 | Zblakany | evilbulgarian: locale-gen :-) |
| 21:43.37 | cheetahw26 | eh... I only have access to an old debian box Debian 4.1.1-21, Linux ver 2.6.18-5-486... and all I need to do is install samba-common and smbfs... anyone know what I should enter in sources.list to access archived packages that may work ? |
| 21:43.46 | evilgenius101 | daemon, i've done that like a dozen time. but i have select only english |
| 21:43.50 | evilgenius101 | shall i mark them all ? |
| 21:43.56 | daemonkeeper | No, mark en_EN.UTF-8 |
| 21:44.06 | thewanderer1 | Voldenet: did you remove the init file on your own? |
| 21:44.10 | daemonkeeper | Does en.EN exist at all by the waY? |
| 21:44.24 | Voldenet | thewanderer1: i did not remove that |
| 21:44.29 | daemonkeeper | I thought there is en_US|UK|... only. |
| 21:44.34 | daemonkeeper | But I don't know. |
| 21:44.34 | Voldenet | apt-get purge samba did that |
| 21:44.38 | Dev0n | so I can do nslookups and reolve domains, but I'm geting 100% packet loss on ping :/ |
| 21:44.40 | thewanderer1 | daemonkeeper: en_US.UTF-8 I suppose |
| 21:44.41 | cheetahw26 | I see archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ has some older packages, but It's been a while since I played around with deb, and can't remember the syntax or which URL exactly to enter |
| 21:44.47 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: I'd too |
| 21:44.47 | Dev0n | this just started happening out of the blue |
| 21:44.55 | thewanderer1 | Dev0n: means that ICMP is blocked probably :P |
| 21:44.56 | Dev0n | debian 5 under VMWare |
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| 21:45.15 | Dev0n | yea, hours of searching, that's what I found |
| 21:45.18 | thewanderer1 | Dev0n: how is VMWare connected to the physical network? some userspace solution, or kernel module? |
| 21:45.40 | Dev0n | well wmware install its tools and does mess with the kernel |
| 21:45.42 | thewanderer1 | in QEMU, for example, when connecting via SLIRP you can't send ping cause it translates all packets to userspace... |
| 21:45.45 | Dev0n | not sure to what level |
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| 21:45.58 | thewanderer1 | perhaps the mess has just imploded now... |
| 21:46.10 | Dev0n | I did do a dist upgrade to squeezy |
| 21:46.15 | evilgenius101 | I have this selection -> http://screensnapr.com/v/Vw3RRn.jpg , then on next screen UTF8 |
| 21:46.16 | Dev0n | perhaps =x ? |
| 21:46.30 | thewanderer1 | Dev0n: hmm that's no wonder. I bet some kernel module is not loaded properly now... |
| 21:46.41 | Zblakany | anyone had idea, how can I fix that grub-pc configuration error? |
| 21:46.49 | thewanderer1 | like the one responsible for VM->host net relay |
| 21:46.54 | Dev0n | ahhh |
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| 21:47.25 | thewanderer1 | Zblakany: did you kill udev? |
| 21:47.38 | Zblakany | thewanderer1: no |
| 21:47.39 | Dev0n | tbh, I think I'm just gonna grab fresh squeezy and do a reinstall.. then move the mysql dbs |
| 21:47.40 | thewanderer1 | looks like something did not create the symlink |
| 21:47.43 | daemonkeeper | evilgenius101: as thewanderer1 and I supposed, there is no en_EN, choose en_US|UK|whatever and change this in /etc/default/locale to whatever you chose/or use update-locale |
| 21:47.44 | Dev0n | that's the only thing there |
| 21:47.49 | Dev0n | and the /var/www |
| 21:48.03 | Voldenet | ok, nevermind |
| 21:48.11 | thewanderer1 | Dev0n: you can use cat over the netcat :P |
| 21:48.11 | Voldenet | apt-get purge samba-common helped |
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| 21:48.46 | evilgenius101 | Oh my bad, sorry i lost you folks in the converstaion. Thanks alot daemonkeeper and thewanderer1 |
| 21:49.07 | Dev0n | lol, is that some debian joke I'm suppose to get ? XD |
| 21:49.22 | daemonkeeper | Dev0n: No. |
| 21:49.24 | thewanderer1 | hmm nope, just how I migrate partitions :P |
| 21:49.30 | thewanderer1 | er filesystems |
| 21:49.35 | b0nghitter | if i was to boot squeeze install in vmware, and have vmware using raw disk space (separate drive), can i install to the drive and boot the pc on that drive without problems? |
| 21:49.39 | Dev0n | oh |
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| 21:50.03 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1, Dev0n: for better reliability I would suggest to use nbd or socat nonetheless. |
| 21:50.18 | Dev0n | nbd ? |
| 21:50.20 | SimonS | b0nghitter, depends on vmware, i think if you use the hole drive, not a partition as raw disk-space, you should be able to boot the installed system |
| 21:50.22 | Dev0n | or ndb ? |
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| 21:50.40 | thewanderer1 | b0nghitter: probably - just network interface cards will get renumbered in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and you have to change that |
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| 21:51.00 | daemonkeeper | Dev0n: nbd (network block device) |
| 21:51.04 | b0nghitter | ok cool thanks |
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| 21:51.11 | Dev0n | first time hearing of such a thing :( |
| 21:51.14 | adb | !nbd |
| 21:51.14 | dpkg | well, nbd is Network Block Device -- http://nbd.sf.net/ -- READ IT!! |
| 21:51.28 | daemonkeeper | Oh, is there something dpkg doesn't know? |
| 21:51.31 | thewanderer1 | b0nghitter: I did the same but reverse - moved a hard drive to KVM... works nice |
| 21:51.46 | Zblakany | daemonkeeper: hmm, i remove and purge grub and grub-pc |
| 21:51.46 | Dev0n | oh kernal stuffz |
| 21:51.52 | OpenTokix | !dkpg where is mubarak right now |
| 21:51.53 | dpkg | okay, OpenTokix |
| 21:51.59 | daemonkeeper | haha |
| 21:52.11 | daemonkeeper | Zblakany: I guess you missed the nick? |
| 21:52.13 | Dev0n | I'm not that *nixy to mess about with that kind of stuff :P |
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| 21:52.28 | Zblakany | daemonkeeper: yep, sorry :-) |
| 21:52.36 | Zblakany | thewanderer1: ^^ |
| 21:53.03 | thewanderer1 | Dev0n: I suggest you move to KVM - less headaches with the kernel :P |
| 21:53.41 | b0nghitter | thewanderer1: so i would just delete the entires in that file and reboot? |
| 21:54.03 | Dev0n | that means running two systems |
| 21:54.19 | Dev0n | I think my mum won't be too happy with me running 2 :( |
| 21:54.29 | Dev0n | lucky to have this one running 24/7 :P |
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| 21:54.43 | thewanderer1 | Dev0n: no, they will eliminate each other (use of VT-x is exclusive to one kernel module, it seems) |
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| 21:54.59 | balazsbela | help. I can't mount my ntfs drive, it says NTFS signature is missing. |
| 21:55.01 | thewanderer1 | b0nghitter: remove entries and then reboot on the target system |
| 21:55.17 | b0nghitter | great thanks |
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| 21:58.58 | Blitzmerker | Hi, I try to compile mplayer with vaapi-support. But for some reason ./configure fails to find vaapi. (libva-dev is installed) |
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| 21:59.34 | Dev0n | well debian downloads are confuzzling |
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| 22:00.51 | Dev0n | which should I pick, I want to run it as a server, with the bare essentials =x |
| 22:00.53 | bleh | i managed to remove aptitude somehow while running "aptitude dist-upgrade". could anyone help me? |
| 22:00.53 | thewanderer1 | bleh: oh, just use apt-get... |
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| 22:00.54 | bleh | when i use apt-get, i get: |
| 22:00.54 | bleh | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 22:00.54 | bleh | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.54 | bleh | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.54 | bleh | E: Broken packages |
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| 22:01.03 | Dev0n | wow, total de-ja-vu there bleh |
| 22:01.04 | thewanderer1 | Dev0n: just take the netinst |
| 22:01.19 | Dev0n | which, small CDs, smaller CDs, tiny CDs ? |
| 22:02.01 | thewanderer1 | small CD (netinst) |
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| 22:02.15 | thewanderer1 | bleh: apt-get -f install |
| 22:02.31 | thewanderer1 | also try it with -t squeeze |
| 22:03.10 | bleh | also, i'm using lenny-backports if that matters |
| 22:03.16 | adb | , versions libept0 |
| 22:03.18 | judd | Package libept0 on i386 -- lenny: 0.5.22 |
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| 22:04.18 | bleh | apt-get -f install --> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. (the 3 i'm assuming are ghostscript libgs8 libpq5) |
| 22:04.44 | thewanderer1 | bleh: didn't the upgrade notes tell you explicitly to disable backports before upgrade or something like that? |
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| 22:04.47 | adb | bleh, added squeeze to sources.list ? |
| 22:04.49 | b0nghitter | is vbox going to give me problems if i choose debian 64bit and to use /dev/sdb, the entire raw disk |
| 22:04.54 | SimonS | anybody knowing a good mininmal browser(for embedded) thats in the debian repos? |
| 22:05.05 | bleh | adb, will give that a try, thanks |
| 22:05.10 | SimonS | with at least a little of css and javascript support |
| 22:05.21 | thewanderer1 | b0nghitter: in raw format? |
| 22:05.43 | datacrusher | how do i add debian-multimedia in my sources list |
| 22:05.43 | adb | dpkg, lenny->squeeze |
| 22:05.44 | dpkg | Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <squeeze release notes>. |
| 22:05.45 | thewanderer1 | SimonS: I ran Chromium on 256M RAM and a PIII... |
| 22:05.48 | datacrusher | im with degian 64 |
| 22:06.02 | b0nghitter | yes so the install can partition etc |
| 22:06.03 | SimonS | thewanderer1, i have about 400mhz arm and 60mb ram.. |
| 22:06.04 | SimonS | :D |
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| 22:06.19 | thewanderer1 | SimonS: then try Midori, it might be functional by now |
| 22:06.23 | b0nghitter | the install being a netboot iso booted in vbox |
| 22:06.25 | SimonS | it isnt't |
| 22:06.27 | datacrusher | dpkg, debian-multimedia |
| 22:06.28 | dpkg | i heard dmm is Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze> <dmm lenny>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>. |
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| 22:06.30 | SimonS | allready tried |
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| 22:06.35 | SimonS | it crashes on larger sites |
| 22:06.44 | thewanderer1 | SimonS: hmm, NetSurf? |
| 22:06.48 | datacrusher | dpkg, dmm lenny |
| 22:06.48 | dpkg | from memory, dmm lenny is Following the squeeze release, the debian-multimedia.org repository for lenny was lost and will not be restored. Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. |
| 22:06.58 | datacrusher | omg |
| 22:06.58 | SimonS | thewanderer1, mom |
| 22:07.08 | thewanderer1 | b0nghitter: yeah you can use an entire disk - at least I know it works with KVM |
| 22:07.12 | bleh | thanks thewanderer1 and adb. guess i messed that up |
| 22:07.29 | adb | np |
| 22:07.34 | SimonS | thewanderer1, just need a .deb.. |
| 22:07.48 | SimonS | a maybe unstable.. |
| 22:08.13 | thewanderer1 | so what was wrong with netsurf? |
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| 22:08.46 | SimonS | thewanderer1, i just didn't find it in the stable repos... but it is in unstable, i'll give it a try |
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| 22:09.37 | datacrusher | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.06 | thewanderer1 | if you need to build a kiosk within these boundaries, perhaps you should rethink that... or thank your developers they haven't used Flash :) |
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| 22:11.31 | SimonS | no.. just making a sharp zaurus usable... |
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| 22:12.59 | thewanderer1 | well, Opera (which I never used so can't really tell) is said to be light on resources as well... dunno about 60MB |
| 22:13.08 | Dev0n | ooh, I think I'll try installign vmware tools again :o |
| 22:13.49 | cast | can i suggest not using vmware |
| 22:14.42 | thewanderer1 | well, I already did :P |
| 22:14.52 | cast | or at least seeking support from vmware :< |
| 22:15.05 | SimonS | that pda uses an old xscale270.. so it's performance is quite slow... and there is no hardware-video... just a framebuffer... which is enough if you choose the right software... choosing the right software is what i do right now.. |
| 22:15.09 | thewanderer1 | I suppose VMWare ESXi is the best platform to run their solutions... it's supported by them |
| 22:15.34 | Dev0n | yall a bunch of vmware haters :P |
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| 22:15.54 | cast | no kidding, why would we not hate vmware |
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| 22:16.17 | Dev0n | is there anything beter? |
| 22:16.20 | Dev0n | w/o having a 2nd system |
| 22:16.31 | thewanderer1 | er, KVM+libvirt? |
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| 22:16.41 | Dev0n | and able to boot your main and debian at the same time |
| 22:16.47 | pipeline | KVM+libvirt has at least one awesome thing going -- you don't have to install vmware tools :P |
| 22:17.01 | SimonS | hehe |
| 22:17.01 | Dev0n | libvirt |
| 22:17.03 | pipeline | Dev0n: debian IS our "main." Dual-booting is a pretty rare scenario |
| 22:17.03 | Dev0n | humm |
| 22:17.07 | SimonS | kvm+libvirt also runs nice.. |
| 22:17.18 | cast | if that's all you want, then vserver and openvz will do that, much faster than vmware too |
| 22:17.18 | Dev0n | I'll check it out |
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| 22:17.36 | pipeline | Dev0n: the truth is, if debian is useful to you, you'll have no reason to boot a separate windows instance. Conversely, if Windows is what you need, what good is it to waste disk space on Debian ? |
| 22:17.37 | php101uk | URGENT: Guys, I've run extundelete, but getting the error: extundelete: failed to read-only open device /dev/sda1 |
| 22:17.38 | Dev0n | oh wait |
| 22:17.50 | Dev0n | pipeline, I use debian to dev on |
| 22:17.51 | thewanderer1 | awww don't use Vserver anymore... OpenVZ if any |
| 22:17.55 | Dev0n | because windows a server os sucks |
| 22:17.59 | Dev0n | and all my server are on debian |
| 22:18.11 | pipeline | Dev0n: then run debian in a VM on your desktop for development purposes... ? |
| 22:18.19 | Dev0n | lol ? |
| 22:18.22 | Dev0n | That's what I'm doing XD |
| 22:18.26 | jazka_ | where would i start to troubleshoot problems with USB ports hanging ? (all USB ports on the computer stop responding, i have a PS/2 connected to it aswell and that one continues to work) |
| 22:18.30 | Dev0n | but you guys are like VM sucks |
| 22:18.31 | Dev0n | lol |
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| 22:18.51 | Dev0n | oh libvirt isn't for win7 |
| 22:18.53 | datacrusher | is there a way i can download devede as .deb somewhere? im having difficulties adding debian-multimedia repos to my debian install |
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| 22:19.19 | thewanderer1 | Dev0n: well, it's a GNU/Linux thing... currently works best on Fedora but on Debian is very usable as well |
| 22:19.23 | pipeline | Dev0n: clearly you should install debian on your desktop, then run debian VMs inside of it. No VMware tools needed! |
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| 22:19.52 | Dev0n | lol but linux os sucks as a desktop os |
| 22:19.55 | jhutchins2 | datacrusher: Which release? |
| 22:19.56 | Dev0n | isn't main steam enough |
| 22:20.03 | Dev0n | don't et me wrong, compiling can be fun |
| 22:20.05 | pipeline | Dev0n: not our problem |
| 22:20.05 | cast | i think we ere like virtualware sucks |
| 22:20.11 | datacrusher | 5.0.8 |
| 22:20.15 | pipeline | Dev0n: that's your set of bizarre preconceptions :P |
| 22:20.15 | Dev0n | but double click on .exe is just easier :P |
| 22:20.29 | Dev0n | maybe if linux was more supported |
| 22:20.33 | Dev0n | in terms of hardware, gaming |
| 22:20.43 | thewanderer1 | well now I understand even less than before from this :P |
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| 22:21.17 | thewanderer1 | datacrusher: Lenny dmm burst into flames... |
| 22:21.23 | Dev0n | I heard vmware likes to pack their tools tar with tools for all the distros |
| 22:21.26 | Dev0n | smart... >.> |
| 22:21.53 | datacrusher | well, what i need to do straightforward is to burn a dvd. I only got the .vob file, so i need to create the .ifo and .bup so k3b would burn it |
| 22:22.09 | datacrusher | dont need the multimedia reops at all if i manage to do that, |
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| 22:22.19 | Dev0n | can I just say, you guys are so much cooler than the debian ppl |
| 22:22.23 | php101uk | Guys, getting the error getting the error: extundelete: failed to read-only open device /dev/sda1 on extundelete |
| 22:22.28 | jhutchins2 | datacrusher: Sadly dmm for 5.x.x is gone. |
| 22:22.40 | Dev0n | debianese ppl have major ego to suck on :( |
| 22:22.41 | thewanderer1 | datacrusher: try going into the respective directory on a mirror and searching for the deb file there |
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| 22:23.00 | Dev0n | fuck |
| 22:23.04 | Dev0n | got that toally wrong |
| 22:23.05 | Dev0n | -.- |
| 22:23.07 | Dev0n | I meant ubuntu |
| 22:23.25 | thewanderer1 | eh, drop it already |
| 22:23.28 | jhutchins2 | Dev0n: Did you have a question related to debian support? |
| 22:23.45 | Dev0n | yes, my debian wasn't able to ping |
| 22:23.58 | Dev0n | then thewanderer1 suggested maybe my dist-upgrade changed the kernal |
| 22:24.13 | Dev0n | so reverting all vmware changes to the kernal |
| 22:24.18 | sgn | What's required for debian to allow users mounting ntfs-3g volumes? |
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| 22:24.40 | datalay | is there any limitation for installed oracle 11g r2 enterprise edition without licencing? anyone knows? |
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| 22:25.10 | thewanderer1 | datalay: this is not Debian DFSG software, you have to contact some Oracle people :P |
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| 22:25.21 | thewanderer1 | sgn: never seen it work properly... so for now I'd say "sudo" |
| 22:25.22 | php101uk | Can anyone help with "extundelete"? |
| 22:25.37 | thewanderer1 | php101uk: no, sorry, try turning to ##linux for a more general audience |
| 22:25.48 | php101uk | k |
| 22:26.04 | jhutchins2 | thewanderer1: You shouldn't be answering for everyone. |
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| 22:26.11 | Dev0n | lol |
| 22:26.14 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins2: ok |
| 22:26.19 | thewanderer1 | launches OpenTTD |
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| 22:26.28 | datacrusher | thewanderer1, iv downloaded devede.deb files, but it claims python-gtk2 isnt satisfiable. iv tryed aptitude install python-gtk2 but didnt found anything |
| 22:27.22 | thewanderer1 | ,versions python-gtk2 |
| 22:27.23 | jhutchins2 | ,versions devede |
| 22:27.24 | judd | Package python-gtk2 on i386 -- lenny: 2.12.1-6; sid: 2.17.0-4; squeeze: 2.17.0-4; wheezy: 2.17.0-4 |
| 22:27.26 | judd | Package devede on i386 -- sid-multimedia: 3.16.9-0.0; squeeze-multimedia: 3.16.9-0.0; wheezy-multimedia: 3.16.9-0.0 |
| 22:27.34 | syn3rgy | As I understand the intel graphics cards are 100% open source free of blobs. Is this right? |
| 22:27.53 | Dev0n | datacrusher, should use google :P |
| 22:27.54 | thewanderer1 | syn3rgy: with the drivers from xorg, yes |
| 22:28.14 | jhutchins2 | ,versions python-gtk2 |
| 22:28.15 | judd | Package python-gtk2 on i386 -- lenny: 2.12.1-6; sid: 2.17.0-4; squeeze: 2.17.0-4; wheezy: 2.17.0-4 |
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| 22:28.30 | datacrusher | im googling for one hour by now... the first 30m pointless search brought me here :D |
| 22:28.41 | Dev0n | http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-gtk2 |
| 22:28.45 | Dev0n | what is dis :( ?^ |
| 22:29.02 | syn3rgy | that is nice to know. Are there any cards that I can buy as discreet cards that support 3D? |
| 22:29.15 | Dev0n | too early for 3D |
| 22:29.17 | datacrusher | iv simply - sudo aptitude install python-gtk2 |
| 22:29.21 | Dev0n | don't waste your money yo :P |
| 22:29.41 | datacrusher | and then gdebi devede.....deb |
| 22:29.43 | thewanderer1 | syn3rgy: from Intel? nope, but ATI with free drivers are not bad... just get one that is *supported* - FGLRX is a major PITA... and NVIDIA with Nouveau doesn't do GLX yet |
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| 22:30.37 | syn3rgy | thewanderer1 wow that REALLY was good news! So ATI ie the 6959 is 100% open =) |
| 22:31.06 | jhutchins2 | datacrusher: Not enough info for us to help you. You could try backporting devede from squeeze. |
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| 22:31.36 | syn3rgy | thewanderer1 5890 ... sry |
| 22:31.43 | jhutchins2 | Or send Christian Marillat money and pleas to restore the lenny dmm. |
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| 22:34.18 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins2: Didn't he drop Lenny at all? |
| 22:35.06 | jhutchins2 | daemonkeeper: Apparently the archive was lost in the process of rolling out squeeze and he's said he can't restore it. |
| 22:35.13 | b0nghitter | how do i allow a user account to read/write to /dev/sdb? |
| 22:35.19 | jhutchins2 | daemonkeeper: You would think one of the mirrors would have a copy. |
| 22:35.45 | jhutchins2 | daemonkeeper: Could be he just doesn't have space. |
| 22:37.11 | datacrusher | i was wondering if i could simple generate .ifo and .bup files from the vob |
| 22:37.14 | PinkFreud | ,versions dhcp3-client-udeb |
| 22:37.14 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'dhcp3-client-udeb' was found in i386. |
| 22:37.18 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins2: I would assume it was about the effort to backport legacy things along the actual packages. |
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| 22:37.21 | hellyeah | hey |
| 22:37.23 | datacrusher | i wouldnt need to have devede to do all the work again and again |
| 22:37.47 | simonrvn | 'devede'? |
| 22:37.58 | simonrvn | please explain |
| 22:38.41 | simonrvn | b0nghitter: um, you don't? |
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| 22:38.56 | b0nghitter | usermod -a -G disk <user> |
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| 22:39.01 | b0nghitter | apparently |
| 22:39.13 | simonrvn | not a Good Idea... |
| 22:39.27 | thewanderer1 | b0nghitter: setfacl on the disk |
| 22:39.54 | simonrvn | that would be *mildly* safer |
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| 22:40.28 | b0nghitter | vbox has to read the disk from a user account |
| 22:40.30 | thewanderer1 | why? there are no possibilities of exploitation... |
| 22:40.48 | b0nghitter | im installing squeeze to the disk |
| 22:40.53 | thewanderer1 | you can also set the owner and group of /dev/sdb |
| 22:41.00 | b0nghitter | ok |
| 22:41.02 | thewanderer1 | libvirt does that ... |
| 22:41.42 | datacrusher | misses nero burning rom |
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| 22:43.11 | thewanderer1 | can't mencoder do that? |
| 22:43.40 | benjamindees | one of many great products that was basically scuttled by the MS monopoly |
| 22:43.46 | hellyeah | what is your suggestion mount: mounting /dev/sda5 on /root failed. No such device |
| 22:43.58 | hellyeah | ops sorry |
| 22:44.03 | hellyeah | http://pastebin.com/Wh3Ffks1 |
| 22:45.14 | hellyeah | installing debian without btrfs |
| 22:45.16 | hellyeah | ? |
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| 22:46.31 | syn3rgy | Goodbye Nvidia, hello ATI! So does the Evergreen 2D/3D/video now support 3D. Was just reading an article from 2010 at phoronix.com |
| 22:47.13 | hellyeah | i am waitin for some suggestion |
| 22:47.15 | hellyeah | pls help |
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| 22:49.48 | thewanderer1 | looks like your btrfs kernel module is broken... |
| 22:50.01 | hellyeah | but |
| 22:50.06 | hellyeah | i just install new |
| 22:50.10 | hellyeah | i didnt do anything |
| 22:50.21 | hellyeah | i took this error in first boot what can i do |
| 22:50.29 | hellyeah | seems debian installation has a bug |
| 22:50.34 | Zblakany | is there a simple way to check if bootsector in grub is installed properly? |
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| 22:51.33 | SPF | Zblakany: with dd you can copy the first 512, and edit it with vi. If there are Grub strings in there, it's installed correctly |
| 22:51.42 | SPF | *512 bytes |
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| 22:51.53 | thewanderer1 | just watch it in `less` |
| 22:52.15 | Zblakany | SPF: thanks |
| 22:52.18 | thewanderer1 | hellyeah: it can have bugs, indeed... check the errata |
| 22:52.22 | SPF | thewanderer1: isn't that slow? |
| 22:52.29 | Zblakany | maybe I try reboot the system :-/ |
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| 22:52.40 | thewanderer1 | SPF: no, not at all |
| 22:52.48 | Zblakany | if everythings is good then system should get up :-P |
| 22:53.00 | Zblakany | s/everythings/everything/ |
| 22:53.27 | SPF | thewanderer1: a very good tip :) |
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| 22:53.43 | hellyeah | here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=608538 |
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| 22:55.11 | hellyeah | is there a solution |
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| 22:56.10 | hellyeah | no solution exist |
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| 22:56.38 | hellyeah | too bad. I feel happy when i see btrfs option in debian installer |
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| 22:57.29 | jhutchins2 | hellyeah: You could try rebuilding the module yourself. |
| 22:57.56 | hellyeah | in busybox how |
| 22:58.09 | hellyeah | i want to do that but i dont know anything about busybox |
| 22:58.57 | jhutchins2 | hellyeah: Why would you build it in busybox? |
| 22:59.10 | hellyeah | because it drops |
| 22:59.15 | hellyeah | because it drops there |
| 22:59.19 | hellyeah | iniramfs |
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| 23:01.45 | Fleck | heyy, any web interfaces, where i can add port forwards, view traffic, manage interfaces etc for debian? |
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| 23:03.54 | hellyeah | i guess the only choice installing debian with ext4 |
| 23:04.02 | hellyeah | after installation finish |
| 23:04.08 | hellyeah | configure with btrfs |
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| 23:09.42 | balazsbela | hello all |
| 23:09.46 | balazsbela | I have a pretty serious problem |
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| 23:09.55 | balazsbela | I run grub 1.99 |
| 23:10.04 | balazsbela | and my first ntfs partition |
| 23:10.10 | balazsbela | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:10.11 | cast | and now your enter key is malfunctioning? |
| 23:10.19 | ksk | :D |
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| 23:10.39 | balazsbela | is unmountable. If I use testdisk to restore it's boot sector I can mount it. |
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| 23:11.00 | balazsbela | but then i reinstall grub2 on /dev/sda and now again, the ntfs partition is unmountable. |
| 23:11.33 | joe6_ | hello, I installed a raid1 array and after all the steps, I notice that the grub menu comes up when one hard disk has a higher boot priority in the bios. When the other disk has a higher priority, it just takes me to the grub command line. |
| 23:11.37 | hellyeah | this is obvious mistake here http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/472356-error-installing-squeeze-root-filesystem-btrfs.html |
| 23:11.45 | hellyeah | btrfs can be experimental |
| 23:11.47 | joe6_ | i did the grub-install on the second disk and the device.map of the second disk shows both disks of theraid-1 arry. |
| 23:11.55 | hellyeah | and most probably it is down now |
| 23:12.06 | hellyeah | but it wortks for ubuntu and linux mint and .... |
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| 23:12.18 | joe6_ | i am using ext4 on both filesystems, so it does not make sense that it would come up with one disk and not the other. |
| 23:12.22 | hellyeah | why not it works in debian we can say it didnt work |
| 23:12.29 | hellyeah | what the hell btrfs is there |
| 23:12.39 | hellyeah | 'in installation page' |
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| 23:12.59 | joe6_ | any suggestions, please? |
| 23:13.13 | okkith | hi, after upgrade from lenny to squeeze cant change resolution in youtube, tried different versions of flashplugin-nonfree, any ideas ? |
| 23:13.44 | hellyeah | dont look for mistake in user |
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| 23:14.57 | datacrusher | is there a gui way on debian do mount .iso files? |
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| 23:15.58 | amphi | probably some file manager can do that |
| 23:16.31 | cast | the CLI way is pretty trivial |
| 23:16.55 | datacrusher | mount something.iso -iso8990 /media/something? |
| 23:17.39 | hellyeah | hey |
| 23:17.46 | cast | slmost |
| 23:17.49 | cast | almost* |
| 23:17.57 | hellyeah | why dont i mount usb while debian installation |
| 23:18.01 | amphi | -o loop will be nice |
| 23:18.06 | hellyeah | it didnt see /dev/sdb1 |
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| 23:18.59 | cast | mount -o loop file.iso /media/something # works fine enough |
| 23:19.06 | hellyeah | if i live my computer with a live system like ubuntu |
| 23:19.13 | Joint | hey how do i changed the time of my computer? |
| 23:19.16 | hellyeah | andif i become chroot |
| 23:19.25 | hellyeah | can i act like 'i am on debian' |
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| 23:19.58 | cast | Joint: i'd install ntpdate and run ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 23:20.09 | Joint | ok ty |
| 23:20.38 | daemonkeeper | hellyeah: A "Ubuntu like live system, just with Debian" would be called "Debian Live", but psssh! |
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| 23:21.21 | hellyeah | daemonkeeper: i actually install debian with btrfs as you may know i was dropped to initramfs |
| 23:21.51 | hellyeah | and i wonder is it possible to configure btrfs from ubuntu by being chroot on ubuntu live system |
| 23:22.18 | daemonkeeper | I don't see how Ubuntu is relevant there? |
| 23:23.10 | daemonkeeper | Also what do you mean by "configure"? |
| 23:23.40 | hellyeah | i took a modules error wait a sec |
| 23:23.58 | hellyeah | http://pastebin.com/Wh3Ffks1 |
| 23:24.27 | hellyeah | http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/472356-error-installing-squeeze-root-filesystem-btrfs.html and this adrs tells the solution may be |
| 23:24.36 | hellyeah | but i am not familier with busybox |
| 23:24.49 | daemonkeeper | Did you build btrfs on your own? |
| 23:25.05 | hellyeah | i want to build on my own |
| 23:25.16 | daemonkeeper | The module you use, does not match the kernel ABI |
| 23:25.19 | hellyeah | i though if i become chroot on ubuntu i can do that easily |
| 23:25.46 | hellyeah | build = configure |
| 23:25.55 | hellyeah | in my saying sorry for bad english |
| 23:26.01 | cast | this is where he says "actually by ubuntu i mean solaris" |
| 23:26.02 | cast | waits |
| 23:26.14 | daemonkeeper | Well, yes. Or any other Linux including Debian itself. You will need to chroot into your Debian any way. |
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| 23:26.37 | hellyeah | i am searching for how to become chroot on ubuntu |
| 23:26.43 | daemonkeeper | cast: Ubuntu GNU/kSolaris? :p |
| 23:26.48 | ariaxu | you don't 'become chroot' |
| 23:26.55 | daemonkeeper | nods |
| 23:27.13 | daemonkeeper | Don't confuse chroot with (becoming) root |
| 23:27.24 | ariaxu | chroot /path /path/to/shell |
| 23:27.30 | ariaxu | same as on any Linux |
| 23:27.36 | hellyeah | i am not working on os side i am kinda beginner |
| 23:27.47 | ariaxu | you had me fooled |
| 23:27.47 | ariaxu | :D |
| 23:27.49 | hellyeah | i just guess something and i want to find a way to do it |
| 23:27.50 | hellyeah | :D |
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| 23:28.24 | hellyeah | anyway i have to boot my computer with ubuntu |
| 23:28.26 | daemonkeeper | hellyeah: What do you want to achieve with btrfs then? You are aware it is a highly experimental file system and things are /expected/ to be broken/unavailable? |
| 23:28.38 | ariaxu | hellyeah: you really don't want to use btrfs |
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| 23:28.46 | hellyeah | ariaxu: why |
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| 23:29.09 | hellyeah | if you say so |
| 23:29.12 | daemonkeeper | btrfs is not production ready. |
| 23:29.13 | hellyeah | i use ext4 |
| 23:29.14 | hellyeah | :D |
| 23:29.32 | ariaxu | hellyeah: it's not finished yet. Unless you have a specific reason for using it (testing, reasearch, debugging) there is no reason to use it |
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| 23:29.45 | hellyeah | why is btrfs in installation |
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| 23:29.57 | ariaxu | so that you can try it if you're feeling daring |
| 23:29.58 | daemonkeeper | A technology preview, since it is upstream |
| 23:30.17 | ariaxu | It does have some neat features, like subvolumes |
| 23:30.24 | hellyeah | i hate that always i took bad magic number from ext3 and ext4 |
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| 23:30.31 | ariaxu | and you can convert an EXT4 partition directly to BTRFS with no data loss |
| 23:30.42 | ariaxu | but really, there's no reason to do it |
| 23:30.47 | daemonkeeper | (yet) |
| 23:30.50 | ariaxu | yet. |
| 23:30.52 | hellyeah | i see |
| 23:31.06 | ariaxu | give it a year or so |
| 23:31.07 | hellyeah | but why i took bad magic number from ext3 and ext4 |
| 23:31.25 | daemonkeeper | You need to tell the full story. |
| 23:31.35 | ariaxu | who me? |
| 23:31.42 | daemonkeeper | No, hellyeah |
| 23:31.54 | hellyeah | i use fsck -y -f sometimes because machine slow it down |
| 23:31.55 | tonytraductor | I installed tritium with aptitude, but gdm didn't add it to the optional window managers for login (got openbox, xfce, sawfish, twm, wmii (using that now), and even options that are NOT installed are in there, being gnome and kde?!), but no tritium. What file do I edit to add tritium in there? |
| 23:32.01 | tonytraductor | man gdm didn't tell me |
| 23:32.18 | tonytraductor | oh wait...yes it does...sorry |
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| 23:32.34 | tonytraductor | /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf or /etc/gdm/gdm.conf |
| 23:32.36 | tonytraductor | doh |
| 23:32.40 | hellyeah | there is also a thing |
| 23:32.42 | tonytraductor | I'll learn to read English one of these days... |
| 23:32.46 | ariaxu | :P |
| 23:32.54 | hellyeah | what is the open source driver of atheros ar 9287 |
| 23:32.58 | ariaxu | Sometimes just talking it out is the best way to solve your own issue |
| 23:33.14 | hellyeah | and how can i connect a network via debian installation program |
| 23:33.26 | hellyeah | it try to take by using dhcp |
| 23:33.28 | daemonkeeper | tonytraductor: Chances are, there is a Debian channel in your native language. |
| 23:33.36 | hellyeah | and it cant take any connection via wireless |
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| 23:33.56 | ariaxu | hellyeah: ath9k |
| 23:34.12 | hellyeah | if i put ath9k into my usb |
| 23:34.21 | hellyeah | it tooks that driver right ? |
| 23:34.24 | tonytraductor | no, that's not it. |
| 23:34.38 | tonytraductor | English IS my language! (but I speak 3 others...get confused) |
| 23:34.45 | ariaxu | hellyeah: what are you trying to do |
| 23:34.55 | hellyeah | ariaxu: |
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| 23:34.58 | tonytraductor | but gdm.conf is not the file I seek |
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| 23:35.15 | hellyeah | debian installation ask for me additional driver (in debian installation) |
| 23:35.26 | daemonkeeper | Never I mind, I confound you with hellyeah, tonytraductor. |
| 23:35.28 | hellyeah | and i want to load that driver in installation process |
| 23:35.38 | hellyeah | hmm :D |
| 23:35.50 | ariaxu | hellyeah: ath9k is shipped with the installer, you don't have to do anything |
| 23:36.09 | ariaxu | hellyeah: you might need some firmware, which is totally different |
| 23:36.10 | hellyeah | okey |
| 23:36.23 | hellyeah | firmware |
| 23:36.23 | hellyeah | what firmware |
| 23:36.24 | hellyeah | can you explain |
| 23:36.32 | hellyeah | like ath9k.ucode ? |
| 23:36.43 | tonytraductor | darnit...looked at /etc/X11/Xsession and a few other files...that's not it either...which file lists WM options for GDM? Anyone? |
| 23:37.11 | tonytraductor | I do go hang out in debian-es and debian-ptbr sometimes |
| 23:37.17 | ariaxu | hellyeah: you need to download firmware-atheros.deb and drop it onto your install media |
| 23:37.17 | jhutchins2 | tonytraductor: 'Sposed to autodetect. |
| 23:37.21 | tonytraductor | I never do hang out in debian=fr though |
| 23:37.35 | hellyeah | aravind: you mean cd |
| 23:37.41 | tonytraductor | well, it's not autodetecting tritium (ion3 like wm but built with python not C and Lua) |
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| 23:38.08 | jhutchins2 | tritium may expect to be started from a shell rather than a login manager. |
| 23:38.13 | tonytraductor | iirc, I may have had to edit something back when I used ion3, too, but that was a couple of years ago |
| 23:38.14 | ariaxu | hellyeah: if you are using a cd, you need to put this file on another disk and put it in the drive after you boot the installer: |
| 23:38.33 | ariaxu | hellyeah: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-atheros_0.28_all.deb |
| 23:38.39 | hellyeah | is it possible to eject installer cd |
| 23:38.47 | ariaxu | hellyeah: not a good plan |
| 23:38.50 | hellyeah | while installing debian |
| 23:38.55 | ariaxu | hellyeah: use a floppy or a usb thumb drive |
| 23:38.57 | jhutchins2 | tonytraductor: kdm here, but if it's not gdmrc it should be in the same directory. |
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| 23:39.04 | s3phir0th115 | Anyone else having trouble with virtualbox in squeeze? |
| 23:39.16 | tonytraductor | which is weird because there is a tritium/ in /etc/ X11 |
| 23:39.16 | daemonkeeper | !anyone |
| 23:39.16 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 23:39.18 | hellyeah | i have also usb |
| 23:39.27 | hellyeah | i put this file into usb |
| 23:39.36 | tonytraductor | no, no gdmrc file |
| 23:39.38 | hellyeah | how can i prepare thumb driver ? |
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| 23:39.53 | tonytraductor | gdm has a .conf file, but there doesn't appear to be any list of wms in there. |
| 23:39.59 | jhutchins2 | s3phir0th115: Yes, someone was having trouble with it earlier. |
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| 23:40.06 | tonytraductor | cd ../gdm |
| 23:40.11 | tonytraductor | ooops. wrong terminal |
| 23:40.12 | ariaxu | hellyeah, or you can just make a new CD from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/6.0.0/ |
| 23:40.24 | ariaxu | hellyeah: those ISO images include firmware |
| 23:40.33 | hellyeah | thats good |
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| 23:40.46 | hellyeah | it is better choice to install debian |
| 23:40.54 | tonytraductor | oh, you know what? I probably need to restart gdm, I bet. |
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| 23:41.05 | tonytraductor | hold on |
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| 23:41.10 | ariaxu | hellyeah: that IS debian |
| 23:41.39 | hellyeah | but there is one problem exist |
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| 23:42.08 | hellyeah | if you can work with wicd or gnome network manager you cant take a connection if you have true essid and password |
| 23:42.19 | hellyeah | you cant take wireless connection with dhcp |
| 23:42.29 | hellyeah | is there any advice forr that |
| 23:43.05 | computer13137 | Anybody in here knowledgeable on, or trying to figure out, tcng? Myself and a few other techs would like to figure out how to set up various traffic shaping methods we want... anyone who wants to contribute or learn can join us... |
| 23:43.31 | ariaxu | hellyeah: you're talking about the installer. Do you control the wireless network? It is always easier to install from a wired connection |
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| 23:44.04 | ariaxu | hellyeah: if you control the wireless network, remove the password while you are installing |
| 23:44.20 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 23:44.25 | s3phir0th115 | I thought so jhutchins. Think it's broken cause it doesn't seem to install the kernel modules for you |
| 23:44.26 | hellyeah | i got it |
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| 23:45.17 | hellyeah | thanks for help |
| 23:45.24 | hellyeah | i am glad |
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| 23:46.57 | hellyeah | neyse ben biraz oyun oynicam lan |
| 23:47.01 | hellyeah | ops |
| 23:47.02 | hellyeah | sorry |
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| 23:50.24 | geekie | I tried to upgrade php so I followed this, added the key etc, all works great with update and upgrade (I added the sources first) then I restart apache but my php version is still the same :/ |
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| 23:50.29 | geekie | http://serverfault.com/questions/165791/upgrade-php-5-2-to-php-5-3-on-debian-etch |
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| 23:52.10 | s3phir0th115 | I think I may have figured it out |
| 23:52.32 | s3phir0th115 | synaptic doesn't seem to install virtualbox right |
| 23:52.44 | s3phir0th115 | But apt-get or aptitude seems to do it fine |
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| 23:53.32 | themill | geekie: are you actually still running etch? or are you just following instructions on random websites for the fun of it? |
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| 23:55.17 | geekie | Oh, I'm running Lenny but I found the same instructions with adding those sources on another website also, just found the key part on that one which worked |
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| 23:55.24 | geekie | but now I get that some packages are "kept back" |
| 23:55.30 | geekie | (the ones I actually want to upgrade) |
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| 23:56.06 | geekie | ah nvm found it |
| 23:56.11 | themill | geekie: how about telling us what you've actually tried to do. If it's dotdeb packages that you've been trying, then I'd recommend against going anywhere near them |
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| 23:57.12 | geekie | I'm trying to upgrade php |
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| 23:57.37 | geekie | I want 5.3.0 at least to be able to work with namespaces |
| 23:58.02 | themill | geekie: you'd be better off upgrading to squeeze rather than using dotdeb packages. |
| 23:58.39 | geekie | Ok, sorry I'm a linux newbie, I'm just trying to google my way it's really hard to know what I should and should not do as the information is really not consistent |
| 23:58.59 | themill | dpkg: tell geekie about lenny->squeeze |
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