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| 00:02.58 | Syniq | OK, I do not understand what's going on with the prompts on recent Debianesque releases. |
| 00:03.00 | PerfDave | khaleel5000: Uhm, if you don't know how to answer that for yourself, using packages.debian.org, you really shouldn't be running sid. |
| 00:04.41 | khaleel5000 | PerfDave sorry yeah stupid question i didnt think through before asking. |
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| 00:09.08 | Syniq | Am I missing /34 |
| 00:09.10 | Syniq | grr |
| 00:09.21 | Syniq | stabs himself and irssi. >.< |
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| 00:24.16 | luckys | anybody mind telling me what should be in /etc/apt/sources.list on a default install |
| 00:24.53 | themill | dpkg: tell luckys about make squeeze sources.list |
| 00:25.13 | cwg | Just checking, to use adduser to give an account the ability to run sudo in Debian, I would run: sudo adduser name_of_user sudo - correct? |
| 00:25.14 | luckys | themill: thanks |
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| 00:25.25 | jaggz-- | ooh when was squeeze released? |
| 00:25.42 | dvs | !squeeze |
| 00:25.42 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 6.0, released on 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a . Squeeze is the three-eyed space alien. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze and ask me about <install squeeze> <release notes> <lenny->squeeze>. The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
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| 00:26.59 | jaggz-- | that's exciting.. |
| 00:29.16 | cwg | ok, that adduser seemed to work - I just need to log back in to make it apply to the X session. Adios. |
| 00:29.49 | Gnudoll | !lenny->squeeze |
| 00:30.13 | Jaaja | !lenny->squeeze |
| 00:30.38 | Gnudoll | !fglrx |
| 00:30.38 | dpkg | fglrx is the ATI/AMD proprietary display driver for Radeon HD and FireGL graphics cards. As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chipsets prior to the R600 series (i.e. models up to and including the Radeon X1950) are supported; use the <radeon> or <radeonhd> drivers for device support. To install fglrx, ask me about <fglrx one-liner squeeze>, <fglrx one-liner lenny> or see http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary . #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:30.39 | dvs | ,lenny->squeeze |
| 00:30.49 | dvs | hmmmm |
| 00:30.56 | cwg | looks like that extra > in the lenny->squeeze is causing problems. |
| 00:31.03 | cwg | !lenny- |
| 00:31.24 | cwg | anyhow, adios |
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| 00:39.33 | MikeH | Hi, I'm looking for a way to connect to an already active (local) X session on a headless machine. At the moment, it'll be sat at a GDM login screen. |
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| 00:39.44 | MikeH | It absolutely needs to be the current session rather than a new one, though. |
| 00:39.53 | tables | what source should i use to get newer package versions |
| 00:39.59 | tables | typically apache and php? |
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| 00:43.28 | tables | what is the name of debian source for unstable or newer packages? |
| 00:43.33 | nsadmin | how do I run x apps as root when I'm logged in as plain user under squeeze? |
| 00:44.04 | nsadmin | (no lectures please) |
| 00:44.25 | Technicus | Hello . . . with Gnome how can a user set scroll wheel on titlebar toggles window shade? |
| 00:44.25 | tables | nsadmin, what does squeeze mean? |
| 00:44.25 | dvs | !tell tables about backports |
| 00:44.51 | tables | dvs, i just want a simple solution |
| 00:44.56 | tables | to add to my sources.list so i can upgrade quickly |
| 00:44.59 | tables | i'm running short on time |
| 00:45.07 | nsadmin | tables: it's a codename for a version of debian |
| 00:45.16 | nsadmin | !codenames |
| 00:45.16 | dpkg | Debian release codenames are buzz (1.1), rex (1.2), bo (1.3), hamm (2.0), slink (2.1), potato (2.2), woody (3.0), sarge (3.1), etch (4.0), lenny (5.0), squeeze (6.0), wheezy (7.0)=Testing and sid=Unstable. "lsb_release -sc" (lsb-release package) will display a Debian system's codename. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives#s-codenames . See <tsc_codenames> for those of the technical support crews. |
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| 00:45.30 | tables | so i'll use sid |
| 00:45.32 | tables | !sid |
| 00:45.32 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 00:45.43 | amphi | nsadmin: I just su in a term and run from there, on the rare occasion I do such a thing |
| 00:46.16 | themill | tables: users capable of running sid don't need to ask in #debian how to install packages from sid... |
| 00:46.21 | nsadmin | under lenny-, I would ssh in with appropriate settings |
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| 00:47.13 | tables | i just want to use newer packages |
| 00:47.17 | tables | lol |
| 00:47.35 | tables | enough with the nerd terms, i just want to use newer packages |
| 00:47.52 | nsadmin | it's vaguely possible you wouldn't like how debian controls what versions you can have |
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| 00:48.14 | nsadmin | maybe debian isn't for you |
| 00:48.25 | nsadmin | that is, maybe you don't prefer it |
| 00:48.41 | tables | can someone that's not a nerd point me to a sources.list that uses newer packages? |
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| 00:48.59 | themill | tables: how about listening to what people are telling you rather than insulting them |
| 00:49.10 | luckys | ya you're kind of a dick |
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| 00:49.33 | nsadmin | it's ok, I don't see nerd as an insult... he's trying to insult because he isn't getting his way |
| 00:49.58 | nsadmin | tables: the non-nerd term for how you're acting is "being a dick" |
| 00:50.00 | dvs | no spoonfeeding here |
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| 00:50.45 | tables | there we go |
| 00:50.46 | tables | http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ |
| 00:50.54 | tables | it's not me being a dick |
| 00:51.06 | tables | it's you being a dick and not taking heed to my intial question: |
| 00:51.17 | tables | <tables> what source should i use to get newer package versions |
| 00:51.17 | tables | <tables> typically apache and php? |
| 00:51.24 | nsadmin | me, I'm just suggesting to you that debian may not be for you if you don't want stability |
| 00:51.27 | themill | tables: you are strongly advised not to use sid for server software and if you are new to debian |
| 00:51.28 | tables | dotdeb was the answer |
| 00:51.39 | themill | tables: you seem to fail on both. And don't use dotdeb... |
| 00:51.40 | nsadmin | good luck with that :) |
| 00:52.06 | nsadmin | this is a server? |
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| 00:52.26 | nsadmin | well it depends on what you intend to serve and for how many... |
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| 00:52.44 | themill | and fiddling with a website to generate sources.list that hasn't even been updated for the squeeze release is clearly a good plan |
| 00:56.32 | nsadmin | tables, so if you are running a server but you don't care about stability (or crashing and stuff), it's not debian you want. further, if you want to be able to get people to respond to "taking heed" (your words) there's always money... |
| 00:56.59 | tables | i don't pay for bunk services |
| 00:57.14 | nsadmin | wellthen, don't run debian :) |
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| 00:57.24 | tables | lol thx, but i did alot of work on debian already |
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| 00:57.36 | tables | just want to upgrade php |
| 00:57.49 | tables | but apparently debian is teh sux |
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| 00:58.26 | GinTonicool | hi ,guys |
| 00:58.37 | anoob | hi, how do i create a patch from my changes in a package? |
| 00:58.47 | nsadmin | do you find php to be stable? do upgrades break old code |
| 00:58.48 | nsadmin | ? |
| 00:59.06 | tables | not really |
| 00:59.17 | tables | upgrades don't break old code, no |
| 00:59.23 | themill | !pal tables |
| 00:59.24 | dpkg | points at tables and laughs hysterically |
| 00:59.36 | tables | what i really want to do is upgrade php5-gd |
| 00:59.52 | themill | helloworld.php is about the only thing that doesn't break between releases. |
| 01:00.27 | nsadmin | by comparison, tcl is extremely stable |
| 01:00.32 | tables | it's cuz your php is teh sux |
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| 01:00.34 | karlpinc | tables: Debian stable does not upgrade. Anything else is subject to breakage -- because there are upgrades! |
| 01:00.47 | themill | tables: and apparently you are a troll. kthnxbye |
| 01:01.18 | yuan | /quit/quit |
| 01:01.34 | nsadmin | it doesn't crash, it almost never breaks old code and new code is likely to run on older versions of tcl |
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| 01:02.26 | nsadmin | (and there are a LOT of people who don't like tcl too, but those facts remain) |
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| 01:05.17 | a1fa | guys, i am in a bind.. trying to dist-upgrade from 5.0 to 6.0 |
| 01:05.32 | a1fa | i am stuck; it does not want install glibc because of my kernel version |
| 01:05.45 | a1fa | but i cant install newer kernel version becauce it needs that glib version that i cant install |
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| 01:06.00 | nsadmin | glib or glibc? |
| 01:06.05 | karlpinc | a1fa: Did you follow the upgrade instructions in the release notes? |
| 01:06.31 | a1fa | libc |
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| 01:06.39 | a1fa | karlpinc: oO |
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| 01:06.56 | karlpinc | a1fa: Try that. It might recover even though you've started down another path. |
| 01:07.03 | a1fa | ok |
| 01:07.13 | nsadmin | "there are instructions?? there's a release file?!?" |
| 01:07.33 | karlpinc | !tell a1fa about lenny->squeeze |
| 01:07.51 | karlpinc | a1fa: But best to just rtfm. |
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| 01:09.30 | OldParr | i need to install a open code free o.s. to use skype is there any skype experience on this chanel about installing skype on debian? |
| 01:09.31 | karlpinc | I've always had a bit of an issue with the name of the release notes because my expectation is that upgrade instructions are a separate document. Perhaps that's just me. In any case it's only those who need to upgrade that need to know about changes made so I'd think a better name would be "upgrade instructions". |
| 01:09.45 | a1fa | karlpinc: i am using "stable" in my source.lst |
| 01:09.53 | karlpinc | OldParr: IIRC the debian wiki has a skype page. |
| 01:09.56 | a1fa | is that ok? or do I ened to change it to squeeze? |
| 01:10.08 | karlpinc | a1fa: Don't do that. See the instructions in the release notes. |
| 01:10.24 | a1fa | hm |
| 01:10.30 | karlpinc | a1fa: If you do that you get suprised by new releases, and you don't get to do an orderly upgrade. |
| 01:10.34 | a1fa | lots of thing have changed since 3.0 days and up :) |
| 01:10.41 | a1fa | this box has been up 650 days |
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| 01:10.53 | OldParr | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.14 | f00bar | debian squeeze just totally crashed and my system rebooted while running VMware workstation 7.1 .. no special user rights .. nothing too fancy |
| 01:11.20 | f00bar | thats .. scary |
| 01:11.24 | karlpinc | OldParr: Dunno. Some use it. I've not heard complaints. |
| 01:11.58 | karlpinc | f00bar: You may have to complain to vmware. |
| 01:12.30 | f00bar | they probably don't yet support debian squeeze |
| 01:12.31 | f00bar | at all |
| 01:12.38 | f00bar | those plonks want me to use RHEL 5 |
| 01:12.58 | karlpinc | f00bar: virtualbox? |
| 01:13.05 | f00bar | eh ? |
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| 01:13.19 | f00bar | no .. I have VMware workstation 7.1 |
| 01:13.33 | ZykoticK9 | f00bar, VMware Workstation 7.1 is working fine on my squeeze install |
| 01:13.52 | f00bar | yeah .. was workinf for me too until I tried to access a USB attached DVD drive |
| 01:13.59 | a1fa | so I am stuck now |
| 01:14.00 | f00bar | then .. kafoom .. the whole machine reboots |
| 01:14.05 | a1fa | karlpinc: i cant go forward |
| 01:14.06 | a1fa | i cant go back |
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| 01:15.15 | a1fa | how can i froce this libc to install |
| 01:15.20 | a1fa | so that I can blow this kernel |
| 01:15.25 | a1fa | maybe I can manually extract it |
| 01:15.33 | a1fa | reboot and then install kernel |
| 01:15.44 | f00bar | pardon me .. must sacrifice a cat to get this working |
| 01:15.54 | karlpinc | a1fa: Why can't you do a "apt-get upgrade"? |
| 01:16.17 | OldParr | what version of debian should i use for an intel core i3 m370 2.4 Gz amd 64, i386, ... etc. |
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| 01:16.48 | a1fa | its not working |
| 01:16.50 | a1fa | i just said |
| 01:16.57 | a1fa | i cant get past libc upgrade |
| 01:17.00 | a1fa | libc needs newer kernekl |
| 01:17.04 | a1fa | new kernel needs new libc |
| 01:17.14 | a1fa | i only expected this kind of behaviour out of redhat |
| 01:17.21 | a1fa | very common problem with RPMs back in the day |
| 01:17.30 | tlund | with dependencybased booting, how do i manually add a script i have written myself? I have added the correct "BEGIN INIT INFO" in the script. |
| 01:17.36 | a1fa | how can i force this thing? |
| 01:17.38 | karlpinc | a1fa: But you said you were doing a dist-upgrade. |
| 01:17.39 | OldParr | what version of debian should i use for an intel core i3 ?, m370 2.4 Gz amd 64, i386, ... etc. |
| 01:18.15 | karlpinc | OldParr: The latest, squeeze. Except that i386 is no longer supported in Debian. But it'll work on a 486 and above. |
| 01:18.23 | a1fa | i already did upgrade |
| 01:18.36 | OldParr | what version of debian should i use for an intel core i3 m370 2.4 Gz ?, amd 64, i386, ... etc. |
| 01:18.37 | a1fa | and there have been some packages that have been kept back |
| 01:18.40 | a1fa | so i did dist-upgrade |
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| 01:19.03 | karlpinc | a1fa: So you then follow the RELEASE NOTES and install the new kernel, udev, and any firmware. Then reboot. |
| 01:19.32 | a1fa | i tried |
| 01:19.46 | dvs | is guessing a1fa is runnings sarge |
| 01:20.08 | a1fa | dvs: probably |
| 01:20.18 | a1fa | dvs: this box has been up 650 days |
| 01:20.53 | a1fa | # cat /etc/debian_version |
| 01:20.53 | a1fa | 5.0.8 |
| 01:20.56 | karlpinc | a1fa: Ah. So you must follow the lenny release notes, use aptitude instead of apt-get, and be careful to upgrade apt at tht right time. |
| 01:20.57 | a1fa | from identical machine |
| 01:22.03 | a1fa | karlpinc: not going to work.. i cant do anything |
| 01:22.21 | a1fa | i am going to manually install libc |
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| 01:22.27 | a1fa | if not, i'll hack on the install script |
| 01:22.52 | OldParr | karlpinc: options are: amd64, kfreebsd-i386, kfreebsd-amd64, i386, ia64, powerpcs390, which one should i use for a intel core i3 m370 2.4 Gz ? |
| 01:23.11 | dvs | OldParr: amd64 or 386 |
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| 01:23.19 | Elaine1 | hi |
| 01:23.21 | a1fa | typicall |
| 01:23.23 | Elaine1 | i heard that abc_ has cancer and is terminal |
| 01:24.14 | a1fa | ~# apt-get -f install |
| 01:24.15 | a1fa | FATAL: kernel too old |
| 01:24.15 | a1fa | :) |
| 01:24.17 | a1fa | ups |
| 01:24.20 | smacnay | What happened to gcstar in Debian sid? IS it defunct or just not working with Deb at this time? |
| 01:24.25 | Elaine1 | i heard that abc_ has cancer and is terminal |
| 01:24.43 | OldParr | dvs: which one of those two works better? |
| 01:25.04 | dvs | OldParr: 386 has been around the longest |
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| 01:26.02 | tlund | wow. the answers given here are REALLY bad. |
| 01:26.12 | tlund | do you let anyone answer random questions? |
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| 01:26.56 | tlund | OldParr: unless you are going to run some special old software on your box, you should install amd64. |
| 01:27.48 | karlpinc | OldParr: (If it's a 64 bit cpu.) |
| 01:27.48 | dvs | like Flash |
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| 01:31.46 | OldParr | karlpinc: how do i know if it is a 64 bits cpu? |
| 01:32.04 | OldParr | intel core i3 m370 2.4 Gz |
| 01:32.09 | dvs | OldParr: an Core i3 is 64 bit CPU |
| 01:32.15 | a1fa | i hate forcing things |
| 01:32.20 | a1fa | but now i have to reboot into recovery |
| 01:32.23 | a1fa | install libc manually |
| 01:32.28 | a1fa | install kernel manually |
| 01:32.28 | a1fa | reboot |
| 01:32.33 | a1fa | and continue on with apt-get upgrade |
| 01:33.17 | tlund | this channel makes me want to kill myself :( |
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| 01:33.48 | dvs | another satisfied customer |
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| 01:40.03 | a1fa | karlpinc: i think i figured it out |
| 01:40.16 | a1fa | even though I updated kernel, slicehsot does not boot into it, unless you select |
| 01:40.17 | dvs | !beer a1fa |
| 01:40.17 | dpkg | pours a litre of Stone Arrogant Bastard for a1fa |
| 01:40.23 | a1fa | they run custome kernels |
| 01:40.41 | a1fa | Stone Arrogant Bastard Stout or Ale? |
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| 01:42.31 | sgn | Hmm, my box won't join the networks DNS domain, any ideas why? |
| 01:43.01 | a1fa | that did it |
| 01:43.02 | a1fa | ;0 |
| 01:43.03 | a1fa | fuckers |
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| 01:49.02 | rubberneck | Running Debian 4.1.2-25, How can I change my login screen? |
| 01:49.24 | rubberneck | Or where is the login image file located? |
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| 01:51.11 | Jaaja | !lenny->squeeze |
| 01:51.54 | ham5 | rubberneck, gnome menus; goto system>admin>login window |
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| 01:54.17 | rubberneck | ham5: OK that works.... What file does that GUI edit? |
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| 01:55.05 | ham5 | don't know for sure, something with gdm? |
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| 01:55.49 | rubberneck | Ill try to set it to something with a weird name and grep for it in a couple of dirs. |
| 01:56.51 | rubberneck | OK next question, when I su to root I cannot open anything graphical, even when I export deisplay:0.0 |
| 01:57.08 | sgn | Anyone using debian with ntfs-3g? |
| 01:57.21 | ham5 | !anyone |
| 01:57.21 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 01:58.28 | sgn | Alright, I'd like to make samba automount a specific device each time a share is accessed. Works with the old ntfs kernel-module, fails with ntfs-3g |
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| 01:59.08 | sgn | AND my squeeze box doesn't join my networks DNS domain, even though it gets its settings via dhcp |
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| 02:02.49 | go^ | I have a problem with IPTABLES..i use this script http://pastebin.com/WbDBDKiS and I try to connect from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.1 but doesn't connect :( pings work! Can anyone help me? |
| 02:03.45 | ham5 | mabey --dport to --sport ? |
| 02:04.11 | go^ | ham5, i try it now mm |
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| 02:05.02 | go^ | ham5, doesn't work :| connection timed out... |
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| 02:05.57 | piercedwater | Does anyone have any suggestions to remedy the 32 and 64 bit debian 6 installer handing after detecting network? |
| 02:06.38 | ham5 | connection is fine without using iptables go? |
| 02:07.11 | gratidude | rubberneck: check out "xauth list" and "xauth add" for the X issue |
| 02:07.24 | go^ | ham5, sure :| |
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| 02:08.32 | sgn | and why can't i mount ntfs volumes bu the old kernel module once i've got ntfs-3g installed? |
| 02:08.53 | rubberneck | gratidude: thanks ill take a look. |
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| 02:13.00 | waltman | I'm running testing. X has crashed on me and my console is frozen. Is there anyway I can restart it without rebooting? |
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| 02:13.11 | waltman | I don't have a getty process for tty1, and init isn't restarting it. |
| 02:13.22 | waltman | It dumped me back on a console screen that says "INIT: version 2.88 reloading" 3 times, but that's it. |
| 02:13.54 | rubberneck | gratidude: That worked, thanks. |
| 02:15.04 | go^ | ham5, solved..it's a problem of ips..my server in lan looks me as another lan ip, lol |
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| 02:15.21 | ham5 | ahh, ok |
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| 02:20.08 | gratidude | rubberneck: Glad that works for you. |
| 02:21.53 | go^ | ham5, how can I add a subnet for 192.168.1.1-3 with one command (like 192.168.1.0/24 for 192.168.1.1-255) ? |
| 02:22.32 | ham5 | ;] |
| 02:23.00 | rubberneck | OK one last question for the night. Every once in awhile, when using IceWeasel, the window will darken as if the screen saver is about to run. it seems to happen randomly and is not due to inactivity. Has anyone ever seen this? |
| 02:23.46 | rubberneck | I should mention that during the time when the screen is dark, the system is unresponsive to any input. |
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| 02:25.04 | rubberneck | The only thing that I have noticed, and it could be all in my head, is that it seems to happen on AJAX heavy sites. |
| 02:26.11 | go^ | sleeps..bye:) |
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| 02:34.19 | engla | rubberneck: it's a compiz animation to show unresponsive applications |
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| 02:34.56 | rubberneck | engla: I am running Compiz, I dindn't even think of that. |
| 02:35.25 | rubberneck | engla: Do you know off-hand if its configurable to be turned off? |
| 02:35.34 | engla | I don't use compiz so I don't know |
| 02:35.55 | rubberneck | engla: Well thanks, Ill take a look. |
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| 02:42.50 | flock-_ | how can i fix it? |
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| 02:43.56 | t3st | hi |
| 02:44.14 | t3st | good nigth |
| 02:44.44 | t3st | hello |
| 02:44.46 | t3st | !! |
| 02:44.46 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 02:44.59 | macrobat | t3st succeeded |
| 02:45.06 | t3st | hi |
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| 02:45.25 | macrobat | welcome to #debian |
| 02:45.35 | t3st | yeah |
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| 02:46.17 | macrobat | what does one use busybox for? it can't mount filesystems, right? |
| 02:46.35 | t3st | I? |
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| 02:47.40 | t3st | I am with problem ifconfig |
| 02:47.46 | macrobat | t3st: you are one user of 1064 :D |
| 02:48.06 | t3st | ? |
| 02:48.12 | macrobat | i mean the busybox included in initrd |
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| 02:48.58 | macrobat | t3st: what do you want to do with ifconfig? |
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| 02:49.25 | dzup2 | http://pastebin.com/mpiVz8A2 |
| 02:49.29 | t3st | i do want configure a iface |
| 02:49.36 | t3st | eth2 |
| 02:49.59 | OldParr | ow do i make a usb minimal install in windows? |
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| 02:50.32 | OldParr | can i prepare the usb stick to the netinst under windows? |
| 02:51.11 | t3st | macrobat: what distribution you use? |
| 02:51.28 | macrobat | !usb install |
| 02:51.28 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 02:51.40 | macrobat | i use mostly sid |
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| 02:52.36 | macrobat | !unetbootin |
| 02:52.36 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions, packaged for Debian. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ See also <usb install>. |
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| 02:54.12 | indecipherable | does anyone use the DFSLive project for DFS? I saw a DFS was undervelopment but was it ditched for DFSLive? |
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| 02:55.05 | indecipherable | i merged under development into one world undervelopment and I ask for forgiveness. |
| 02:55.13 | indecipherable | *word. |
| 02:55.16 | indecipherable | i'm going offline. |
| 02:55.18 | indecipherable | lol |
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| 02:56.16 | indecipherable | dfsbuild.. |
| 02:56.18 | indecipherable | i suck today. |
| 02:56.26 | indecipherable | it's my birthday |
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| 02:58.17 | OldParr | where is the netinst image for an usb stic? |
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| 03:01.14 | simonrvn | it's ok, happy birthday |
| 03:01.27 | OldParr | where is the image for the netinst install from a usb stick -> http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-ia64/current/images/ |
| 03:01.44 | indecipherable | thank's simonrvn! |
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| 03:01.54 | simonrvn | OldParr: /msg dpkg usb install |
| 03:01.56 | indecipherable | I'm 25 today and I'm a bit shaken about it. |
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| 03:01.58 | mattux | joyeux anniversaire indecipherable |
| 03:02.12 | indecipherable | Thank you mattux! |
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| 03:04.28 | t3st | how use john the rapper? |
| 03:04.44 | t3st | at file passwd? |
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| 03:05.49 | t3st | ? |
| 03:05.53 | KB1JWQ | t3st: man john |
| 03:06.39 | t3st | yes |
| 03:07.21 | t3st | how use? |
| 03:07.39 | KB1JWQ | t3st: What, you want me to read the man page to you? |
| 03:08.00 | t3st | yes |
| 03:08.02 | t3st | what? |
| 03:08.44 | OldParr | there are many images can someone tell me which image should i use to 64 bits machine with a usb minimal instalation media? |
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| 03:10.46 | froggyman | How I do I set my computer to not lock when I close the lid? |
| 03:11.11 | indecipherable | Does anyone know if DFSBuild is still an active project? Is anyone currently using or supporting this project? |
| 03:11.36 | karlpinc | OldParr: netinstall amd64 arch |
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| 03:11.56 | t3st | KB1JWQ: read? |
| 03:12.09 | OldParr | karlpinc: do you have a link to that? |
| 03:12.19 | karlpinc | OldParr: (And you may find the install guide useful too.) |
| 03:13.24 | simonrvn | froggyman: lock, the screensaver? run the xscreensaver (or gnome, or whatever) prefs manager and change it. |
| 03:13.56 | karlpinc | OldParr: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 03:14.05 | karlpinc | OldParr: However, the smallest is: |
| 03:14.18 | karlpinc | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ |
| 03:14.30 | froggyman | simonrvn, When I close my screen it brings me to the Gnome thing for entering my password. I don't want it to lock, where I need to enter my screen saver |
| 03:14.48 | karlpinc | OldParr: I'd stick with the slightly larger, because you'll have more "on hand" just in case. |
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| 03:15.25 | ice799 | anyone use the embedian cross compile toolchain? i installed it, and supposed a cross gcc but don't actually see the binary anywhere on my system. |
| 03:16.05 | karlpinc | OldParr: Install guide is: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ |
| 03:16.36 | froggyman | simonrvn, I found what I was looking for. Its under /etc/default/acpi-support |
| 03:16.41 | karlpinc | ice799: You might possibly also need to install the "build-essentials" package, but that's a lenny thing and I don't know about squeeze. |
| 03:16.50 | nsadmin | ice799, look at the dpkg -L of the packages that were installed to obtain the cross env |
| 03:17.31 | flock-_ | PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/suhosin.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 |
| 03:17.33 | nsadmin | perhaps the bin names are things like gcc-arm, or they're hooked into the main driver program |
| 03:17.36 | flock-_ | how can i fix it? |
| 03:18.01 | nsadmin | flock-_: first find out what it means and then why it's happening |
| 03:18.09 | ice799 | karlpinc: no |
| 03:18.13 | ice799 | nsadmin: thanks |
| 03:18.17 | flock-_ | nsadmin, when I try to run php file.php |
| 03:18.20 | flock-_ | it tells me that |
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| 03:18.55 | nsadmin | try running php on an empty file |
| 03:19.03 | nsadmin | still say that? |
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| 03:20.02 | flock-_ | moment |
| 03:20.32 | flock-_ | yes nsadmin |
| 03:21.03 | nsadmin | so even if the php file is empty, it puts that error. yes? |
| 03:21.21 | flock-_ | yes |
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| 03:22.00 | s3phir0th115 | Anyone know why virtualbox is so slow in squeeze? |
| 03:22.13 | nsadmin | while that doesn't say anything about why or how that's happening, it does say where: it seems like some initialization (preparation to run your php file) is throwing that error |
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| 03:25.16 | ZykoticK9 | s3phir0th115, vbox isn't slow on my squeeze... |
| 03:25.31 | nsadmin | flock-_, what says "cat /etc/debian_version" |
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| 03:25.55 | s3phir0th115 | You running as root or a limited user for that ZykoticK9? And the latest upstream or the one officially in squeeze? |
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| 03:26.21 | ZykoticK9 | s3phir0th115, regular user - vbox-ose from default repo |
| 03:27.05 | s3phir0th115 | I'll have to try it on that then |
| 03:27.16 | s3phir0th115 | Cause this is BS slow |
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| 03:31.24 | s3phir0th115 | hmm... |
| 03:31.32 | s3phir0th115 | Found a few old processes of virtualbox |
| 03:31.35 | s3phir0th115 | That might have something to do with it |
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| 03:35.02 | ice799 | hmmmmmm ./configure --target=blah still ends up picking the wrong gcc. i wonder if it just isnt looking in the right place? |
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| 03:44.34 | Wooga | hello, is there exists non-graphical version of debian installer? |
| 03:44.48 | Wooga | if i want to install it on qemu over ssh for example |
| 03:44.59 | Wooga | and i don't want to use vnc for that |
| 03:45.37 | KB1JWQ | I wasn't aware there was a graphical installer. :-) I usually use the netinstall disk. |
| 03:45.50 | Wooga | KB1JWQ: it uses graphicl mode |
| 03:45.56 | Wooga | 800x600 vesa or something |
| 03:46.12 | Wooga | so it us unasable with qemu -curses |
| 03:46.34 | Wooga | unusable* |
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| 03:53.41 | nsadmin | there used to be a package called xlibs-dev... what happened to it and how can I install what it used to represent? |
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| 03:57.33 | s3phir0th115 | ZykoticK9, that was it. Had a few processes of it running somehow. lol |
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| 04:03.56 | Sylarr | Can anyone help me out with this? http://paste.debian.net/107548/ |
| 04:04.01 | Sylarr | I don't see what I'm doing wrong |
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| 04:08.28 | yagoo | Sylarr, well i'm not criticising on that post, but i would look more into -F so that I can see version numbers |
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| 04:12.59 | Sylarr | yagoo: like this? http://paste.debian.net/107549/ |
| 04:13.13 | Sylarr | So it looks like that query does not do what I want it to do |
| 04:13.26 | Sylarr | but reading the manpage i can't see what's wrong with it |
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| 04:17.18 | dokaya | hiii |
| 04:17.23 | dokaya | anybody using debian-kbsd ? |
| 04:17.24 | dokaya | :D |
| 04:17.48 | drunkendentist_ | i was just thinkin about that. |
| 04:18.12 | simonrvn | i'm sure some people are |
| 04:18.14 | drunkendentist_ | i was considering experimenting with it. i think i got an extra drive sitting around. |
| 04:18.22 | simonrvn | !kfreebsd |
| 04:18.22 | dpkg | Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular Debian package set. kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 were released as a "technology preview" for Squeeze, ask me about <install guide>. http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/doc/ http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD #debian-kbsd on irc.oftc.net. |
| 04:18.59 | dokaya | i'm experiencing problem post installation. |
| 04:19.19 | dokaya | on ttys0 or any, if i try to login using root |
| 04:19.21 | dokaya | it freeze |
| 04:19.29 | dokaya | I already post this also on debian-kbsd on oftc |
| 04:19.33 | simonrvn | eek |
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| 04:19.37 | s3phir0th115 | If I do use anything with a freebsd kernel, I'd probably be that |
| 04:19.49 | dokaya | this not the case if i login using standard user, no problem |
| 04:19.50 | drunkendentist_ | you might want to look into reconfiguring with grub2 |
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| 04:19.56 | simonrvn | well, they're the people to help you |
| 04:20.21 | dokaya | yes, appreciate that :) |
| 04:20.34 | drunkendentist_ | i'm not really qualified. |
| 04:20.38 | dokaya | and, after i successfully login using standard user, problem will occured again if i do su |
| 04:20.41 | dokaya | su - or su |
| 04:20.46 | dokaya | asking for password |
| 04:20.56 | dokaya | and no response at all |
| 04:21.22 | dokaya | i'm using kfreeBSD-amd64 package |
| 04:21.46 | dokaya | haven't tried i386 packaged. but i prefered x86_64 over x86 |
| 04:23.36 | drunkendentist_ | i hope you get the help you need dokaya. i gotta go |
| 04:23.43 | drunkendentist_ | ttyl everyone. |
| 04:23.58 | dokaya | thx :) |
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| 04:37.26 | nsadmin | ,file X11/extensions/XShm.h |
| 04:37.30 | judd | X11/extensions/XShm.h in squeeze/i386: libxext-dev: usr/include/X11/extensions/XShm.h; tendra: usr/lib/TenDRA/lib/include/x5/ext.api/X11/extensions/XShm.h |
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| 04:39.59 | nsadmin | ,file X11/extensions/Xvlib.h |
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| 05:04.55 | JasonWoof | anybody know why gnome is ignoring my preferred browser setting in gnome-default-applications-properties? I filed a bug at the package containing gnome-open: http://bugs.debian.org/612985 |
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| 05:11.35 | yagoo | JasonWoof, what do u have in alternatives, ( this may not be related ), ls -l /etc/alternatives/*term* |
| 05:12.08 | yagoo | JasonWoof, is it a preferred browser string or a pull-down option you chose? |
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| 05:12.34 | yagoo | (actually ls -l /etc/alternatives/*brow* ) |
| 05:14.29 | JasonWoof | yagoo: custom string: /home/jasonwoof/bin/default-browser "%s" |
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| 05:15.05 | yagoo | JasonWoof, type "file /home/jasonwoof/bin/default-browser" does it symlink to anything ? |
| 05:15.29 | JasonWoof | yagoo: /etc/alternatives/*brow* |
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| 05:15.48 | yagoo | JasonWoof, "file" is actually a command |
| 05:16.30 | JasonWoof | yagoo: /home/jasonwoof/bin/default-browser: POSIX shell script text executable |
| 05:16.51 | yagoo | JasonWoof, and where did u get this script? |
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| 05:16.58 | JasonWoof | yagoo: I wrote it |
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| 05:17.12 | yagoo | JasonWoof, that's not a script from debian. |
| 05:17.16 | yagoo | woot |
| 05:17.20 | JasonWoof | I set the ENV var $BROWSER to that same script (without the "%S") |
| 05:17.22 | JasonWoof | so? |
| 05:17.32 | JasonWoof | my problem is that it's not being executed at all |
| 05:17.49 | JasonWoof | gnome is running chromium-browser instead |
| 05:17.49 | yagoo | JasonWoof, that's not debian issue.. ask #bash. |
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| 05:17.59 | JasonWoof | my script works perfectly |
| 05:18.03 | JasonWoof | it's not an issue of my script |
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| 05:18.18 | JasonWoof | I set my script in $BROWSER, and now /usr/bin/sensible-browser calls it correctly |
| 05:18.24 | yagoo | JasonWoof, then make a symlink in ~/bin/ called x-www-browser .. |
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| 05:19.36 | JasonWoof | yagoo: ok, and I made one called gnome-www-browser too, but clicking links in pidgin still opens it with chromium-browser |
| 05:19.54 | yagoo | JasonWoof, not a debian issue. |
| 05:19.55 | JasonWoof | yagoo: this started being an issue after an aptitude upgrade |
| 05:20.04 | JasonWoof | without changing any configurations or the script |
| 05:20.11 | JasonWoof | I'm running unstable |
| 05:20.12 | yagoo | JasonWoof, ask #linux.. you're asking pidgin problems .. no need to reportbug on any of this |
| 05:20.30 | yagoo | JasonWoof, you should be using testing. unstable is for develoeprs |
| 05:20.36 | yagoo | !unstable |
| 05:20.36 | dpkg | [unstable] The status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges (!) See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>. |
| 05:22.02 | JasonWoof | testing will have this issue too in a while if everybody keeps ignoring it or figuring it's somebody elses problem |
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| 05:22.31 | yagoo | JasonWoof, you shuold know how to debug this.. |
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| 05:22.46 | yagoo | JasonWoof, reportbugging this is a waste if you cant debug it in unstable |
| 05:23.28 | JasonWoof | yagoo: gnome-open isn't documented |
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| 05:24.15 | JasonWoof | I looked, and I've been unable to find any info on how to configure the default browser that still works |
| 05:24.22 | JasonWoof | it used to work, then I did a software update, and now it doesn't |
| 05:25.01 | JasonWoof | It's my understanding that having people test your releases before they get to the distro/version that the masses use is very useful (assuming they tell you about problems.) |
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| 05:25.40 | JasonWoof | someone else asked in ##gnome today why the preferred applications browser choice didn't work |
| 05:26.24 | yagoo | JasonWoof, you can try using sensible-browser or www-browser symlinks in ~/bin .. i've had a problem with gambas2 that wasn't initiating gnome's default browser behaviour before.. issue wasn't gnome but gambas, so i filed a report against gambas.. in ur case it may be pidgin the problem and not gnome.. |
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| 05:29.12 | yagoo | JasonWoof, if u want system wide, you can use update-alternatives .. (those special symlinks in /etc/alternatives are handled by debian scripts) |
| 05:29.40 | JasonWoof | yagoo: yeah, it's not pidgin. gnome-terminal does the same thing |
| 05:29.54 | yagoo | JasonWoof, it's probably pidgin's fault.. i forget the name of the system call.. but it's a debian standard on how the call is made.. |
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| 05:30.56 | JasonWoof | update-alternatives --config x-www-browser doesn't allow me to pick sensible-browser |
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| 05:32.30 | yagoo | JasonWoof, ^^ the debian specific code probably needs to be implemented.. as i said that was what i was told when i had that gambas problem.. |
| 05:32.52 | yagoo | JasonWoof, actually if u know how to read the source code and see if that code was implemented then you're off to a good start.. |
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| 05:34.13 | JasonWoof | ok, I set (with update-alternatives --config) x-www-browser to midori, and gnome-www-browser to iceweasel, and links from gnome-terminal still open in chromium |
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| 05:38.02 | acx0 | does anybody use the experimental branch? |
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| 05:38.23 | streuner_ | no |
| 05:38.50 | streuner_ | only if you are insane or you know exactly what you doin |
| 05:39.22 | JasonWoof | acx0: you can't run it. it's just a few packages that might work on unstable |
| 05:39.24 | streuner_ | its a playground of DDs |
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| 05:40.44 | acx0 | JasonWoof, oh, I was just a bit confused with the differences between sid and experimental |
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| 05:41.24 | acx0 | so would it be possible to use a certain package from experimental if you're using testing? |
| 05:42.08 | phorce1 | acx0: experimental is "Hey, I wonder what I can break if I do THIS! -- Well, it seems to wo [beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee] |
| 05:42.21 | JasonWoof | acx0: that's it :) unstable (sid) is bleeding edge, but works most of the time if you're ok with having to mess with package management a bit. experimental is for a few packages that most people wouldn't even want to test yet. Or just for developers to try out packaging, and see how it goes |
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| 05:43.07 | mosva | How can I open terminal window? |
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| 05:43.19 | user___ | hi |
| 05:43.37 | mosva | When I boot the PC, all I see is the wallpaper, nothing else, Alt+F2 doesn't open the terminal |
| 05:43.40 | user___ | I love debian 6.0 squeeze as desktop |
| 05:44.08 | woonix | mosva: To get to a terminal when you're already in a graphical environment, use CTRL+ALT+F# |
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| 05:44.14 | JasonWoof | mosva: that's ctrl-alt-f2 |
| 05:44.23 | user___ | is there a desktop channel for debian ? |
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| 05:45.08 | mosva | JasonWoof, that doesn't work |
| 05:45.24 | mosva | All the GUI I see is the log off screen on Alt+Ctrl+Del |
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| 05:45.59 | JasonWoof | mosva: do you get the (gdm) graphical login screen first? |
| 05:45.59 | phorce1 | acx0: if you need something that is ONLY in experimental ... good luck. If you need a newer version of something that is in wheezy/sid then "/msg dpkg ssb" and "/msg dpkg uupdate" |
| 05:46.00 | woonix | user___: Not specifically, no |
| 05:46.10 | mosva | JasonWoof, yes |
| 05:46.16 | mosva | I can see the wallpaper too |
| 05:46.20 | user___ | woonix: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/ |
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| 05:46.42 | acx0 | would it be recommended to install iceweasel from experimental if I'm using testing? I need version 3.6 for a plugin I use (pentadactyl) |
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| 05:47.03 | user___ | Can someone please help me understand why one would opt for Debian 6 as desktop ? |
| 05:47.09 | JasonWoof | mosva: huh, something seems to be borking your session. have you enabled desktop effects or fiddled with your session/window manager? |
| 05:47.18 | user___ | or is it good as a server |
| 05:47.23 | JasonWoof | mosva: can you ctrl-alt-f2 from the gdm login screen? |
| 05:47.33 | mosva | JasonWoof, I installed AWN and disabled the gnome-panel |
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| 05:48.15 | phorce1 | acx0: just go ahead and install FireFox using their installer. the only thing non-free about FF is the logos. I had to do that in Lenny because of some changes made by a secure site I visit that made IceWeasel not work |
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| 05:49.00 | mosva | JasonWoof, it doesn't open anything |
| 05:49.14 | acx0 | phorce1, that's what I've done right now, I was just wondering if there was a "neater" way that could be managed by the package manager as well |
| 05:49.18 | JasonWoof | mosva: sounds like you told it not to |
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| 05:49.37 | phorce1 | acx0: FF will pick up your current configs/favorites/etc from Iceweasel. You'll have to reinstall plugins. You can't run IceWeasel and FF at the same time (eg. have one of each open) |
| 05:49.46 | woonix | user___: http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian gives you a general answer to Why Debian, if that helps you. |
| 05:49.48 | mosva | JasonWoof, but it should open the terminal? |
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| 05:50.07 | acx0 | phorce1, is it okay if I installed it to /usr/local/lib, and symlinked the binary to /usr/local/bin? - is this the way to install custom binaries? |
| 05:50.09 | phorce1 | acx0: grabbing from experimental is NEVER neater than any other solution |
| 05:50.13 | JasonWoof | mosva: ctrl-alt-f2 should put you it one of the virtual consoles with a text-login |
| 05:50.22 | mosva | okay |
| 05:50.25 | mosva | How can I go from there |
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| 05:50.52 | JasonWoof | mosva: try: export DISPLAY=:0.0 |
| 05:50.55 | phorce1 | acx0: That's probably what I did. It's been a couple of months but I always install hand rolled packages in /usr/local/ |
| 05:50.58 | JasonWoof | mosva: then: gnome-terminal |
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| 05:51.43 | JasonWoof | mosva: then flip back to your vt with X in it (ctrl-alt-f7 ish.. try 6, 8, and 9 if 7 doesn't work) |
| 05:51.45 | phorce1 | acx0: that way I know where to look first when something isn't playing nice |
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| 05:52.04 | acx0 | phorce1, I wasn't sure, because the version on the FF site is just a tar'd archive of a firefox folder with everything inside it, I just put it in lib, but I thought lib/ was only for lib-something files |
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| 05:53.18 | phorce1 | acx0: it's best not to poke around in the "standard" directories managed by dpkg except by using links |
| 05:53.43 | mosva | JasonWoof, Alt+Ctrl+F2 is not working from the gdm login screen |
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| 05:53.44 | acx0 | phorce1, standard meaning anything other than local/ ? |
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| 05:55.58 | Bhavicp | uh, Would anyone be able to point my in the right direction, on how to format my drives with GPT (they're 2Tb drives which Deb won't boot from) |
| 05:55.58 | phorce1 | acx0: correct -- dpkg doesn't put anything in /usr/local/ as far as I know. --- I just looked and I untarred to /usr/local/firefox/ then put a symlink to that into /usr/local/bin/ ------ I have /usr/local/bin/ in the path for all of my logins. No need to also symlink to /usr/bin/ |
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| 05:57.40 | phorce1 | acx0: my launcher just calls 'firefox %u' |
| 05:57.54 | phorce1 | acx0: no path preface required |
| 05:57.55 | JasonWoof | mosva: that's really strange. I don't know what you can do, besides boot into single-user-mode (which doesn't start gdm automatically (or networking). you do that by adding a 1 to the end of your kernel args |
| 05:58.10 | JasonWoof | mosva: (in grub) |
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| 05:58.47 | acx0 | phorce1, okay, thanks - so would it make more sense to put firefox in /usr/local/lib/firefox/ or /usr/local/firefox/ ? |
| 05:58.55 | JasonWoof | mosva: you are pressing the F2 key right? (not f and then 2) |
| 05:59.36 | JasonWoof | mosva: also, if you're on a laptop, double-check whether you need the fn key to access f2 (some mac keyboards are labeled this way) |
| 05:59.51 | phorce1 | acx0: /usr/local/firefox/ --- whenyou said you untarred it in "lib" my brain automatically saw "/lib" rather than "/usr/local/lib/" |
| 06:00.19 | woonix | I think Jason is on the right track. I've never had Ctrl+Alt+F# fail to show me a terminal |
| 06:00.28 | phorce1 | JasonWoof: newer laptop keyboards also .... it's annoying |
| 06:00.38 | user___ | is there a way to get the latest version of pidgin version 2.7.10 on debian 6 ? |
| 06:01.06 | streuner_ | judd, versions pidgin |
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| 06:01.09 | judd | Package pidgin on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.7.3-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze1; wheezy: 2.7.3-1+squeeze1; sid: 2.7.9-2 |
| 06:01.12 | phorce1 | user___: check for a backport |
| 06:01.32 | user___ | phorce1: there is no backport version |
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| 06:01.50 | phorce1 | !tell user___ about ssb |
| 06:02.06 | phorce1 | although sid only has 2.7.9 |
| 06:02.09 | user___ | phorce1: so do i need to continue with the default version that comes with debian 6 |
| 06:02.14 | streuner_ | user___: is 2.7.9 enough? |
| 06:02.20 | woonix | user___: If you want it badly enough, you can always download the source and compile/install it. |
| 06:02.38 | acx0 | phorce1, oh my bad for not specifying the full path; anyway thanks a lot for the help |
| 06:02.43 | user___ | woonix: ok |
| 06:02.50 | woonix | !tell me about ssb |
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| 06:03.33 | phorce1 | user___: you can also check into uupdate |
| 06:03.41 | phorce1 | !tell user___ about uupdate |
| 06:04.31 | phorce1 | user___: start with the ssb info and work through the "ask me about" alternatives |
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| 06:11.40 | mosva | JasonWoof, ofc F2. I may be dumb, but not that dumb |
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| 06:15.12 | paq7512 | nouveau or nvidia driver |
| 06:15.15 | paq7512 | ? |
| 06:15.29 | JasonWoof | mosva: hope that didn't come across insulting. I was just thinking that people newer to unix may never have needed to use the other virtual terminals |
| 06:15.54 | JasonWoof | paq7512: yes |
| 06:16.10 | paq7512 | which one and why? |
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| 06:17.09 | JasonWoof | paq7512: I say try the default first, and if you're unhappy with the performance or something, try the other |
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| 06:17.37 | mosva | JasonWoof, I agree. |
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| 06:18.18 | macrobat | noveau is free, nvidia has performance |
| 06:18.31 | paq7512 | what is the recommended why to install nvidia driver 8 series gpu? |
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| 06:19.13 | JasonWoof | noveau is newer (and lacking some 3d type stuff) but is free software, so problems can be fixed by the community |
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| 06:20.41 | macrobat | !nvidia |
| 06:20.42 | dpkg | Install <nouveau> or the appropriate <dkms> package in non-free for your card, ask me about <nvidia dkms> <nvidia dkms-173xx> <nvidia dkms-96xx>. Ask about <nvidia lenny> for <oldstable> procedures. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 06:21.38 | macrobat | 8 series is like 8600 and such? |
| 06:23.05 | paq7512 | yeah sorry i have a 9400, it is a fanless gpu |
| 06:23.33 | irix | you might be interested to see some photos of debian release party at Tehran |
| 06:23.34 | irix | https://picasaweb.google.com/iiriix/DebianKDEReleasePartyFeb102011TehranIran |
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| 06:25.34 | Strife89 | The cake looks nice. :) |
| 06:25.38 | Strife89 | And delicious. |
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| 06:43.51 | user___ | hi |
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| 06:44.06 | user___ | can someone please guide me about Ring Switcher on Debian 6 |
| 06:44.25 | user___ | I have enabled it |
| 06:44.34 | user___ | but it does not work |
| 06:44.42 | user___ | http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Switcher |
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| 06:51.18 | user___ | I have enabled Rotate Ring Clockwise on Next under Ring Appearance |
| 06:51.21 | user___ | please suggest further |
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| 07:11.40 | user___ | checking in again ? |
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| 07:12.27 | simonrvn | !wayttd user___ |
| 07:12.27 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, user___? |
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| 07:13.49 | user___ | simonrvn: I am evaluating debian squeeze, I have enabled ring switcher on ccsm |
| 07:14.19 | user___ | I have enabled it, it does not work http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Switcher I have enabled Rotate Ring Clockwise on Next under Ring Appearance |
| 07:14.39 | user___ | it does not rotate |
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| 07:15.01 | user___ | when i click on alt tab keys |
| 07:16.11 | simonrvn | i haven't used compiz for a while, and i didn't try that switcher, i don't think. |
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| 07:16.41 | simonrvn | stcik around, ask in a little while, someone else can help you, or try their channel - i think it's at #compiz |
| 07:16.50 | user___ | simonrvn: ok |
| 07:17.48 | geekosopher | user___: on the ring switcher settings page, check the keyboard bindings (is it Alt+Tab or something else?) |
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| 07:18.15 | simonrvn | there we go :) |
| 07:18.26 | geekosopher | :) |
| 07:18.55 | geekosopher | i myself got lost in that area few days ago ;) |
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| 07:20.32 | user___ | geekosopher: its alt tab |
| 07:21.45 | geekosopher | user___: I may not be of much use then :( |
| 07:22.00 | geekosopher | s/use/help |
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| 07:22.12 | user___ | instead it uses the default alt tab |
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| 07:23.29 | geekosopher | user___: have you also checked whether the same bindings are conflicting with 'box switcher' because it has alt+tab by default, try disabling it if you haven't already |
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| 07:24.43 | user___ | geekosopher: i dont see box switcher under Window Management in ccsm |
| 07:25.17 | geekosopher | hmm |
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| 07:29.04 | user___ | geekosopher: please suggest further |
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| 07:30.19 | geekosopher | user___: going through the link you gave, is it 'application switcher' in ccsm? I have to guess because I don't have ccsm on this computer |
| 07:31.20 | user___ | geekosopher: yes |
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| 07:31.53 | user___ | so i want it in ring mode |
| 07:32.01 | user___ | and not as box mode |
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| 07:32.30 | user___ | so do i need to enable "Application Switcher" too ? |
| 07:32.42 | robertzaccour | if Ubuntu developers disappeared, would Debian developers even notice? |
| 07:32.48 | geekosopher | trying won't harm I guess |
| 07:33.01 | geekosopher | user___: ^ |
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| 07:35.57 | user___ | geekosopher: no luck |
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| 07:45.25 | tonytraductor | no stew/Mike O'Connor? |
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| 08:10.30 | concon | God, I've been so stupid using ubuntu instead of debian on this laptop |
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| 08:19.34 | Bhavicp | Would anyone be able to tell me how i can get mkfs.xfs |
| 08:19.53 | Bhavicp | (i currently have a partition which is ext4 and want to format it as xfs) |
| 08:20.13 | Bhavicp | been googleing, but everywhere it just says use mkfs.xfs |
| 08:20.17 | Bhavicp | Which i don't have |
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| 08:21.22 | Bhavicp | Found it.. xfsprogs |
| 08:21.25 | impi | hello, i need to downgrade php 5.3 to php 5.2 - do you know of any definitive guides that's debian specifiec? |
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| 08:31.30 | lamah | in rc.local not works... |
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| 08:43.01 | impi | what was the release before squeeze? |
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| 08:47.40 | theDoc | hi all, I just compiled php5 via apt get and it seems like php -a doesn't have readline? |
| 08:47.54 | theDoc | Should I be installing another package to get php -a to work correctly? |
| 08:48.36 | pbn | Hi my workstation had "squeeze" in /etc/apt/* and hence I was running squeeze when it was testing. Now that squeeze is released I'd like to run testing again. So I guess I just need to replace "squeeze" with "wheezy" allover in /etc/apt/* ? |
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| 08:48.48 | PerfDave | theDoc: What do you mean, "compiled via apt get"? What commands did you type? |
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| 08:48.58 | theDoc | PerfDave: Using apt-get install php5 |
| 08:48.59 | lamah | Why /etc/rc.local not works? |
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| 08:49.12 | lamah | Squeeze? |
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| 08:49.30 | pbn | yeah, squeeze |
| 08:49.52 | pbn | So I need to replace "squeeze" with "wheezy" ... aptitude upgrade... and perhaps pray, too ? ;) |
| 08:49.55 | PerfDave | theDoc: That's not compiling, that's installing :) Compiling is something different :) |
| 08:50.06 | theDoc | PerfDave: Sorry, wrong term there :) |
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| 08:50.29 | theDoc | PerfDave: Do you happen to know what else I might be missing? |
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| 08:50.50 | PerfDave | theDoc: That's OK. I'm afraid I don't use PHP myself so can't help with your problem, but at least I can help you phrase it correctly :) |
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| 08:51.21 | theDoc | Aye, ok. |
| 08:51.23 | theDoc | Not a problem. |
| 08:51.34 | theDoc | Trying to test some stuff out on my box, not really a php guru either. |
| 08:51.50 | theDoc | But kind of need it to run basic crypt stuff. |
| 08:52.02 | PerfDave | Basic crypt stuff? |
| 08:52.14 | kenifanying | hi everyone, I install the VirtualBox-4.02, but get this :update-rc.d: warning: vboxdrv stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1) |
| 08:52.20 | theDoc | PerfDave: Oh, lol. I was mucking around with php crypt. |
| 08:52.22 | kenifanying | how can i fix it? |
| 08:52.27 | theDoc | Just wanted to get that going in a vm. |
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| 08:53.19 | theDoc | PerfDave: Found it anyway, http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=51695 |
| 08:53.23 | theDoc | Seems like it's broken. |
| 08:53.56 | PerfDave | Gotta go anyway, work calls |
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| 09:00.30 | Arafangion | Some .deb's ask questions when the administrator installs them. What's the mechanism that they ask them by? (So that I can find out how to do it myself) |
| 09:01.09 | Rienzilla | debconf |
| 09:01.24 | Arafangion | Thanks. |
| 09:01.32 | Rienzilla | there is a short packagebuilding howto |
| 09:01.41 | Rienzilla | iirc with some example scripts |
| 09:01.49 | everyman | I have a server with version lenny installed. Now it is going to be upgrade to testing (aptitude update && aptitude upgrade). Is it normal to take a long time to upgrade from lenny to squeeze? I notice after command executed, it takes one and half an hour to analyze (e.g. open 285 closed ... conflict 64) |
| 09:02.19 | Rienzilla | squueze is no longer testing, everyman |
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| 09:02.41 | Arafangion | Rienzilla: Hmm, where do I find a debconf page that doesn't dump raw HTML to my browser, nor talk about the "Debian Conference"? |
| 09:02.53 | Rienzilla | euhm |
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| 09:02.57 | Rienzilla | hold on haha |
| 09:03.43 | Arafangion | Rienzilla: Someone's asking me in ##linux, I suspect he's gone away now, but *I* am curious now, and would like to know how to do it myself. :) |
| 09:03.48 | Rienzilla | http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html |
| 09:03.54 | Arafangion | Thanks! |
| 09:04.14 | Rienzilla | the preinst, postinst, etc scripts are run by dpkg |
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| 09:04.48 | Rienzilla | and they usually contain some debconf stuff which stores the answers to questions in debians db |
| 09:04.56 | Rienzilla | so it's preserved accross package upgrades etc |
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| 09:05.44 | Arafangion | A nifty solution. |
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| 09:06.14 | impi | hey guys, if i run the command apt-cache policy php5 i get the following: http://pastebin.com/V2drV9zE |
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| 09:06.23 | impi | i have to downgrade php 5.3 to 5.2 |
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| 09:06.44 | impi | but how can i remove all the squeeze repos and just use lenny..? |
| 09:07.12 | Arafangion | Rienzilla: Thanks, while that manual doesn't explicitly say how to use debconf directly, that together with some other sites such as http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html looks like it will explain just about everything. :) |
| 09:07.14 | everyman | so the upgrade will go through lenny -> squeeze -> testing? |
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| 09:08.33 | Arafangion | everyman: You're suggested to first get your system to the latest packages for that particular release, then upgrade to the next major release. Don't skip major releases. |
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| 09:09.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey where does apt put it .deb file it downloads |
| 09:10.04 | Bushmills | impi: that dotdeb package isn't debian's or squeeze's |
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| 09:10.14 | Arafangion | Eryn_1983_FL: /var/apt/cache or somewhere like it. |
| 09:10.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 09:10.39 | everyman | so what is the right step to do it? aptitude to squeeze first, then aptitude upgrade (editing sources.list to testing) ? |
| 09:10.51 | Bushmills | !lenny |
| 09:10.51 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for the current <oldstable> release, Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on 2009-02-15 and superseded by Squeeze as of 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 . Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>, <lenny release notes>, <install lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.8>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
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| 09:11.38 | Bushmills | if your sources still point to oldstable, installing debian's will give you the lenny version |
| 09:11.41 | impi | Bushmills, mills thatnks man. ya need to downgrade php..PITA |
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| 09:13.36 | impi | is there any way i can remove this source: http://packages.dotdeb.org stable/all Packages |
| 09:14.06 | Bushmills | you'd use an interactive sources administration frontend, commonly called a "text editor" |
| 09:14.12 | Rienzilla | Arafangion: ok, good luck |
| 09:14.32 | impi | Bushmills, yep, i used that and edited sources.list and there's no reference of that dotdeb repo.. |
| 09:14.39 | impi | but i wonder where it would be coming from? |
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| 09:14.47 | jelly-home | impi: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* as well |
| 09:14.48 | Rienzilla | oh that debconf tutorial is actially the thing I was looking for indeed |
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| 09:30.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i need to install two versions of an ap transmission i want to install from the dpkg to a diff directory |
| 09:30.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | i looked at the man but i couldnt find it |
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| 09:32.08 | nkuttler | Eryn_1983_FL: that's not really supported |
| 09:32.56 | nkuttler | Eryn_1983_FL: you can build the software from source though |
| 09:33.13 | alexbodn | Eryn_1983_FL:make install that app. but ensure where it would be installed: usually on /usr/loca/ or /opt |
| 09:33.13 | Bushmills | Eryn_1983_FL: try reading the man page, instead of just looking at it |
| 09:33.37 | Bushmills | there is --instdir option, mentioned in man page |
| 09:34.30 | Bushmills | alternatively, --root if two seperate admin dirs exist |
| 09:35.13 | Bushmills | advisable. chroot, avoiding conflicts between colliding versions |
| 09:35.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | i see it its not workin though |
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| 09:41.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | it keeps saying no such fileor directory |
| 09:41.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | the permissions look fine and the directory exesists |
| 09:41.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | exsists |
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| 09:45.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok can somebody help |
| 09:45.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://pastebin.com/Dki1TBLK |
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| 09:46.52 | themill | Eryn_1983_FL: --root doesn't do what you think it does; the options are also in the wrong order. |
| 09:46.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 09:47.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | i need the binaries in a dif spot so i can have two of them running at once |
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| 09:47.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | do i gotta do source then themill |
| 09:47.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | ? |
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| 09:47.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | dare i ask why you 'need'? |
| 09:48.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | one for everybody else and one for me |
| 09:48.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 09:48.08 | themill | binaries? Surely you only need a second copy of a config file and init script. And doesn't it run as a different user anyway... |
| 09:48.18 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok ok |
| 09:48.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | hmmm |
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| 09:48.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | didnt think of it that way its later/early lol |
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| 09:52.36 | DroidAgent | How can I install a .deb that has a new version of a package I previously installed through apt-get? There's a new package available but it's not added to the repo yet, but I would like to upgrade it without breaking stuff. |
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| 09:53.00 | sep | wait until it's in the repo |
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| 09:54.18 | DroidAgent | sep: there's no way to sideload? That exact same package is going to be added to the repo. |
| 09:54.26 | vtts | dpkg -i |
| 09:54.27 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, vtts |
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| 09:55.22 | DroidAgent | vtts: that's safe? |
| 09:55.37 | Bushmills | DroidAgent: if you have the package, you can - carefully - try dpkg -i, but newer packages often have requirements which result in having to upgrade other packages along with it |
| 09:55.48 | Iridos | nothing on this insecure earth is safe |
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| 10:02.00 | jayeola | hey chaps. 'apt-cache search blah':- show can I see which "section of software that blah is in so that i can find more blah-related packages? |
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| 10:02.28 | mh__ | mh@guppi:~$ aptitude show vim | grep Section |
| 10:03.14 | mh__ | jayeola: that was for you :) |
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| 10:03.59 | Iridos | jayeola, apt-cache show blah |
| 10:04.24 | themill | jayeola: debtags provides a good way of finding related software; probably better than archive section in fact. |
| 10:04.36 | Iridos | I was coming to that |
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| 10:05.26 | Iridos | oh well |
| 10:05.31 | Iridos | !tell jayeola -about debtags |
| 10:05.39 | simonrvn | there used to be a nice little ui for debtags that showed you stuff interactively.. i liked that |
| 10:05.46 | shashi_ | when i install vlc in debian 5.06-lenny i cant see the video only audio comes |
| 10:07.02 | Bushmills | shashi_: with one specific video only, or with any? |
| 10:07.02 | streuner_ | shashi_: please show us your sources.list |
| 10:07.21 | streuner_ | !paste |
| 10:07.21 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 10:08.06 | shashi_ | Bushmails: for all video formats |
| 10:09.05 | shashi_ | streanuer : now i am in office i'll send it later if u dont mind plz give me ur mail_id |
| 10:09.31 | DroidAgent | Package upgrade went nicely and didn't break anything.. thanks for the pointers, guys. |
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| 10:09.39 | streuner_ | shashi_: no need to, there are always people here... |
| 10:09.52 | shashi_ | ok no probs |
| 10:10.54 | streuner_ | shashi_: but why arent you just upgrade to squeeze? |
| 10:11.20 | streuner_ | shashi_: does this happen with xine or such too? |
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| 10:12.02 | shashi_ | streanur: now it wont happen with xine its fine |
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| 10:12.14 | armetiz | Hi there, I'm trying to rebuild an Debian ISO (for a preseed install..) |
| 10:12.20 | armetiz | I have some trouble around MD5sum.. |
| 10:12.25 | armetiz | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.31 | armetiz | But, I have a "find: File system loop detected; `./debian' is part of the same file system loop as `.'." |
| 10:12.37 | armetiz | How Can I solve this ... :s |
| 10:12.43 | armetiz | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.48 | armetiz | ./debian is a symlink for "." |
| 10:13.01 | shashi_ | streanur: i have i386 machine with 600MHz processor and 512MB RAM is tat fine for squeeze? |
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| 10:13.57 | Bushmills | shashi_: fine. just avoid kde |
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| 10:14.27 | streuner_ | shashi_: or GNOME |
| 10:14.44 | Bushmills | actually, gnome isn't that bad on such machines |
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| 10:15.03 | Bushmills | been running that on a 512 MiB machine myself |
| 10:15.19 | streuner_ | 512 MB RAM - GNOME and firefox/iceweasel is a PITA :- |
| 10:15.22 | streuner_ | :-) |
| 10:15.44 | simonrvn | 768 mb is better. not so swappy |
| 10:15.55 | Iridos | mh__, hard to say anything without the full list of errors... what kernel exactly was it? |
| 10:16.18 | Bushmills | firefox is, indeed |
| 10:16.35 | Iridos | that's more of a "avoid firefox" than "avoid gnome", though |
| 10:16.51 | simonrvn | i use opera mostly now, it doesn't allocate itself so much memory, and mem cache is configurable easily |
| 10:16.56 | Iridos | harder to tell how much all those little gome thingies eat, though |
| 10:17.13 | simonrvn | over time the applets gobble up mem |
| 10:17.30 | mh__ | Iridos: well, i upgraded it last night.. and just checked, it is: 2.6.32+29.. hmm, well.. hoped it was some kind of a known problem.. |
| 10:17.31 | Iridos | also firefox probably isn't so bad if you're not in the habit of having 20 windows open with 20 tabs each |
| 10:17.43 | mh__ | i will have to google or reboot the server in order to get the error back.. |
| 10:17.45 | shashi_ | Bushmails: i use GNOME desktop |
| 10:18.00 | shashi_ | streanur: GNOME |
| 10:18.09 | Iridos | mh__, 686 or amd64? |
| 10:18.10 | simonrvn | no it isn't. and the latest versions are getting a lot better about mem |
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| 10:18.30 | mh__ | Iridos: amd64 |
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| 10:19.09 | simonrvn | i suspect it's a gtk2 issue though, with those applets. they tend to be very leaky |
| 10:19.27 | Iridos | "+29"?? |
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| 10:19.38 | simonrvn | typo i think |
| 10:19.40 | mh__ | Iridos: was something like: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at |
| 10:19.57 | mh__ | Iridos: well dpkg -l | grep linux told me it was +29.. |
| 10:19.58 | mh__ | ii linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32+29 Linux 2.6 for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) |
| 10:20.06 | jayeola | thanks for your replies. imost interesting `apt-cache show trac | grep Section ` ;-) I'm looking for similar software to trac |
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| 10:21.38 | Iridos | hm, strange... on my 32-bit system that looks like: |
| 10:21.42 | Iridos | linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 2.6.32-30 |
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| 10:22.08 | mh__ | okay, i actually have 2 lines.. |
| 10:22.08 | mh__ | ii linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 2.6.32-30 Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs |
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| 10:24.15 | Iridos | that looks more like it |
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| 10:24.42 | mh__ | Iridos: sorry.. i guess the other one is just a virtual package for the latest release. |
| 10:24.44 | Iridos | the other was probably a metapackage... but strange thing with the version |
| 10:24.53 | simonrvn | says as much |
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| 10:27.10 | Iridos | mh__, the only report I see at http://bugs.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 is about abooting under xen |
| 10:27.37 | mh__ | Iridos: hmm.. could be something which is related.. i use kvm as the host.. i will give it a shot.. |
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| 10:30.03 | shashi_ | streanur : i can install squeeze on my system with that configuration |
| 10:30.11 | shashi_ | can i |
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| 10:52.22 | mh__ | Iridos: okay, someone sais that you could try with a newer kernel on both guest and host.. because the guest use some newer functions than the host.. |
| 10:52.32 | mh__ | Iridos: so i will try to do that.. |
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| 10:58.10 | minver | Does debian lenny have php pre-installed? |
| 10:58.31 | AimHere | Nope. |
| 10:58.33 | jelly | minver: the base system does not come with lots of stuff. |
| 10:58.48 | AimHere | It's a mere apt-get away though, of course |
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| 11:01.18 | Iridos | mh__, write a bug-report on it when you figure it out... |
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| 11:03.09 | mh__ | Iridos: sure.. thanks for the help, havent really used this bug reporting before.. i better get started if i see anything like that again.. |
| 11:03.25 | wissem | hi all |
| 11:04.26 | wissem | I 'm having speed problems when using gnome version 2.30,i was wondering can i have a downgrade without problems ? |
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| 11:05.27 | Iridos | mh__, there's a script "reportbug" that you call and that'll automatically try to send mail from your machine. (as mail isn't configured I usually have to write it out to a file instead) - also don't use an email address that you don't want to get spam to for the bugreport, the email addresses are publicly visible in the bug reports |
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| 11:10.13 | anoob | is there a way to search bugs for packages implemented in php? |
| 11:10.24 | RminFX | hi all i wana a probleme with install reconstructor 3.2.3 on debian |
| 11:10.43 | RminFX | show this error : |
| 11:10.44 | RminFX | (Reading database ... 142254 fileand directories currently installed.) |
| 11:10.44 | RminFX | unpacking reconstructor (from .../reconstructor_2.9_all.deb (--install): |
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| 11:13.44 | michalxo | hello! I think I am getting a dependecy hell problem... it just showed today after update.. this is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/mxvjmTBs |
| 11:14.16 | michalxo | safe-upgrade just keeps to resolve solutions... (get into 12300 solutions!) |
| 11:14.52 | michalxo | did anyone experienced this? Resolving dependencies... open: 335; closed: 625; defer: 79; conflict: 30 |
| 11:14.56 | peja | anyone running suphp on "squeeze" ? |
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| 11:16.48 | minver | I just installed php using apt-get install php5, according to the log everything seems great, but the php -v command doesn't work. Any ideas? Log: http://pastie.org/1562209 |
| 11:18.00 | mh__ | minver: aptitude install php5-cli |
| 11:18.28 | minver | mh__: what's that? |
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| 11:19.06 | mh__ | minver: command line interface.. you cannot execute php in the console just after install of php5. you need the cli |
| 11:20.10 | minver | mh__: okay, I don't really need to execute php files from console, I just thought I would have the command if I installed using apt-get php5. (as the tutorial said) |
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| 11:20.21 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 11:20.28 | minver | mh__: I guess I have php installed now and all I need to do is to get apache to execute the files? |
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| 11:20.59 | gypsymauro | what's the difference between linux-image 686 and amd64? it seems on squeeze there are only amd64 and on sid on 686 |
| 11:21.05 | mh__ | minver: thats totally right :) just put you php files in the webfolder, and access the virtual host.. and presto.. you should see your wordpress installer |
| 11:21.21 | mh__ | gypsymauro: 32 and 64 bit packages |
| 11:21.44 | gypsymauro | mh__: 686 is for 32 bit? |
| 11:21.58 | mh__ | gypsymauro: thats right |
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| 11:24.07 | gypsymauro | ok tank you, and if eventually I want to install a sid kernel? it's a problem? |
| 11:24.11 | RminFX | hi all i wana a probleme with install reconstructor 3.2.3 on debian |
| 11:24.14 | RminFX | show this error : |
| 11:24.25 | RminFX | (Reading database ... 142254 fileand directories currently installed.) |
| 11:24.37 | RminFX | unpacking reconstructor (from .../reconstructor_2.9_all.deb (--install): |
| 11:24.48 | RminFX | trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/reconstructor', wich is alsin packege reconstructor 3.2.3 |
| 11:24.55 | RminFX | dpkg-debubprocess paste killed bu signal (Broken pip) |
| 11:24.58 | RminFX | Errors were encounered while processing: |
| 11:25.06 | mh__ | gypsymauro: no, thats no problem.. just install the package.. whats the problem? |
| 11:25.29 | gypsymauro | mh__: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502845 |
| 11:25.39 | gypsymauro | I want to try with a newest kernel |
| 11:26.01 | poncha | is it possible to configure pam to have several wuthentication mechanisms for same service? eg pam_login OR pam_pwdfile is sufficient? |
| 11:26.11 | RminFX | Not installed |
| 11:26.52 | peja | hi is there something broken at suphp at squeeze... simple asking id via php-file test fails... it's showing just blank page at browser (new confs or something?). at lenny i's working good (same conf even). |
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| 11:27.58 | minver | mh__: Right now it tries to download the install.php file. Do I need to add something more to my VirtualHost than "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" ? |
| 11:28.07 | mh__ | gypsymauro: http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-2.6.32-5-686, there should be a 2.6.32-5 kernel available for 686 as far as i can see.. aptitude update && aptitude install *** |
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| 11:28.47 | mh__ | minver: then something is wrong.. :) you dont have to add anything to your virtual host, everything should work out of the box.. just remember to restart you apache service |
| 11:28.48 | alexbodn | i have a problem with libreoffice, and i'd like to ask anybody with libreoffice on sid to try a small non-destructive test. would you? |
| 11:29.08 | gypsymauro | mh__: it would be 32 or 64 bit? |
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| 11:29.33 | mh__ | gypsymauro: 686 will be 32 bit.. so it should fit your needs |
| 11:30.34 | jelly | alexbodn: I have the old 1:3.3.0-1 package previously from experimental. What fails to work? |
| 11:30.57 | gypsymauro | mh__: doh.. I wold like to use a 64 bit with kvm, but it seems that with debian amd64 I can't use open-iscsi :( |
| 11:31.21 | alexbodn | jelly: thanks for answering. do you have sid? |
| 11:31.43 | jelly | alexbodn: I have a mishmash, mostly testing. |
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| 11:32.23 | mh__ | gypsymauro: i have 32bit on my own desktop.. and actually i have open-iscsi available.. whats in your sources.list? |
| 11:32.27 | Iridos | mh__, but even apache should be restarted by phps postinst script |
| 11:32.32 | alexbodn | jelly: me too. would you give it a try? |
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| 11:32.37 | Iridos | minver, empty the cache of your browser? |
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| 11:33.02 | jelly | alexbodn: you didn't say what you wanted to do. |
| 11:33.32 | gypsymauro | mh__: I know , it's available to 64bit too but due that bug it's actually unusable on amd64, but I want to build a server with 64bit environment |
| 11:34.16 | mh__ | gypsymauro: ohh okay, like that :/ hmm.. then i dont really know what to do.. if you have stared on a fresh install, you COULD go for debian stable and see if open-iscsi is in backports? |
| 11:34.51 | mh__ | Iridos: i guess you are right.. i just always do that, i might just be a bad old habbit :) |
| 11:35.15 | gypsymauro | mh__: I'm on stable :) the problem seems on the stable's kernel, I just wanted to give a try to sid kernel maybe with that it works :) |
| 11:35.28 | jelly | alexbodn: hm, actually upgrading it to 1:3.3.1~rc1-2 seems a bit tricky |
| 11:35.34 | alexbodn | jelly: open writer; tools-macros-run macro-my macros-standard-module1-main-run. no special thing should happen. then close writer. |
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| 11:36.02 | Es0teric | i have a question concerning a server |
| 11:36.27 | Es0teric | i have a php5 fastcgi script on the server, how do i get it to work without giving me a 500 internal server error? |
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| 11:37.37 | alexbodn | jelly: if you have testing+unstable+experimental, you can upgrade, and it looks nice. but you don't need to upgrade to do my test |
| 11:38.25 | mh__ | gypsymauro: hmm.. and you just need open-iscsi? well as far i can see with packages.debian.org, open-iscsi should be a part of the repository? |
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| 11:39.32 | minver | Iridos: still same problem |
| 11:40.43 | minver | Irdios: oh, sorry, not I got a new error that I'm missing the php mysql extension. thx! |
| 11:40.51 | Iridos | ha |
| 11:42.10 | Iridos | minver, shift-reload also usually does the trick |
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| 11:42.34 | colo-work | hi everyone |
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| 11:43.12 | minver | Iridos: yeah, I pressed shift + cmd + r, second time it worked :o |
| 11:43.29 | colo-work | since upgrading both my server and my (embedded) "workstation" (just an ARM-powered box where I ssh in and do my email, really) to squeeze, mutt is slower than it was on lenny by a margin. |
| 11:43.37 | colo-work | has anyone of you noticed similar effects? |
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| 11:44.03 | colo-work | I wonder if or how I could determine if it's dovecot on the server side, or mutt on the client side that's responsible |
| 11:44.05 | alexbodn | jelly: what's up? |
| 11:44.06 | Iridos | did you check the bts? |
| 11:44.14 | kazade | hey, I (a little stupidly) just upgraded my VPS to Squeeze, when udev complained the kernel was too old I installed a newer kernel and the upgrade went through.. however I've just found out that my VPS host use their own kernel (2.6.18) and ignore the installed one. Can I downgrade udev somehow? |
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| 11:44.49 | jelly | alexbodn: sorry, my foodstuff's arrived. Nothing happened when running that macro -- it's an empty Sub by default |
| 11:44.53 | colo-work | kazade, since you won't be hotplugging any hardware, you shouldn't need udev at all. |
| 11:45.23 | Rienzilla | kazade: you could try to pick the udev package from lenny and manually install it, while hoping that none of the packages in squeeze depend on the newer udev |
| 11:45.25 | alexbodn | jelly: good appetite! |
| 11:45.43 | kazade | colo-work, so, you think I can just uninstall it? |
| 11:45.48 | alexbodn | did you close writer afterwards? |
| 11:46.05 | colo-work | kazade, you could try, but you should back up your VPS container first |
| 11:46.10 | jelly | er, no, it's still open |
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| 11:46.33 | alexbodn | please press it's x, jelly |
| 11:46.39 | Devastator | i'm aware that debian livecd is not officially supported, but how can i get more info about it? i want to put debian into a pendrive to use vconfig and tcpdump |
| 11:46.41 | honschu | why are there no menu-files in "/usr/share/menu" for most KDE programs (e.g. konqueror)? |
| 11:46.45 | jelly | alexbodn: I did an File -> Exit |
| 11:46.48 | Rienzilla | udev also does some magic when you do not hotplug any hardware. It might not be needed strictly, but some stuff may break if you just uninstall it |
| 11:46.59 | Rienzilla | i.e. lvm mountpoint etc |
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| 11:47.35 | kazade | ok, I'll try installing the lenny udev |
| 11:47.38 | Iridos | judd, versions udev |
| 11:47.40 | judd | Package udev on i386 -- lenny-security: 0.125-7+lenny1; lenny: 0.125-7+lenny3; squeeze: 164-3; wheezy: 164-3; sid: 166-1 |
| 11:47.56 | alexbodn | jelly: and the exit went ok? |
| 11:48.05 | jelly | alexbodn: yes. |
| 11:48.08 | Rienzilla | ah, wheezy is the new testing? |
| 11:48.21 | Iridos | yes |
| 11:48.33 | jelly | alexbodn: no leftover soffice.bin or similar processes |
| 11:48.47 | Iridos | there's lots of reverse depends on udev |
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| 11:49.04 | Rienzilla | Meh I'm not really looking forward to all upgrades to squeeze |
| 11:49.20 | alexbodn | well, jelly, so you have my answer: libreoffice crashes on my system upon file-exit. |
| 11:49.26 | halcyforn | hello |
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| 11:49.38 | halcyforn | sorry for my english. |
| 11:49.38 | Iridos | track sid and you'll never have to deal with a change in your release-name |
| 11:50.02 | Iridos | halcyforn, the "hello" was perfect... |
| 11:50.06 | halcyforn | i have problem because i dont know what window manager is good for my old laptop |
| 11:50.07 | jelly | alexbodn: well, this 3.3.0 on my i386 system doesn't, fwiw |
| 11:50.08 | halcyforn | xp dell inspiron 25000 intel celron maybe 800MHZ 64 ram |
| 11:50.23 | Rienzilla | halcyforn: use something really really lightweight with those specs |
| 11:50.26 | jelly | halcyforn: forget X with 64MB RAM. |
| 11:50.31 | Rienzilla | fluxbox or something like that |
| 11:50.40 | halcyforn | xfce ? |
| 11:50.43 | Rienzilla | or blackbox |
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| 11:50.56 | kazade | removing udev tries to remove these packages: nitramfs-tools libgdu0 linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-686 linux-image-openvz-686 udev udisks are any of them vital? (the kernel isn't used) |
| 11:51.03 | jelly | halcyforn: in fact, forget any recent Debian, it's going to be painful. |
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| 11:51.32 | alexbodn | same kernel for me, jelly |
| 11:51.32 | alexbodn | what i'd need from you now, is the packages (and their versions) libreoffice depends on that are installed on your system. |
| 11:51.43 | Rienzilla | jelly: hmmm lenny will run in 64M, albeit without X |
| 11:51.49 | halcyforn | i thnk instal debian and fluxbox or xfce |
| 11:51.52 | halcyforn | what is better |
| 11:52.03 | Iridos | jelly, don't be ridiculous... 649K of RAM is as much as anyone will ever need! |
| 11:52.07 | jelly | halcyforn: I'd say you want at least 512M for xfce to be useful. |
| 11:52.10 | go^ | halcyforn, xfce..but needs a little bit more of RAM |
| 11:52.11 | Iridos | 640* |
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| 11:52.28 | Bushmills | halcyforn: with xfce, you'd want 128 MiB or more |
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| 11:52.30 | halcyforn | fluxbox dont need more ram |
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| 11:52.35 | halcyforn | ? |
| 11:52.45 | Rienzilla | fluxbox is really really small |
| 11:52.46 | go^ | i used fluxbox with 128 |
| 11:53.09 | Rienzilla | it can't do that much though, but you will be able to start some programs in the few M's of ram you have left, and drag them around |
| 11:53.38 | alexbodn | jelly: what i'd need from you now, is the packages (and their versions) libreoffice depends on that are installed on your system. |
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| 11:53.41 | halcyforn | i have 10 Gigabytes disc i think i make 2gigabytes swamp partition maybe dont lag my laptop |
| 11:53.56 | Iridos | it's not the WM that is the major drain for RAM, but xorg itself... |
| 11:54.03 | jelly | alexbodn: are you in the process of doing your own reportbug? |
| 11:54.31 | dinya | hello all. debian testing/gnome. i use texworks (qt4 app.) and want font "andale mono". but it looks muddy instead of clean and bright looking :(. i switch on the best looking for fonts on LCD in GNOME. |
| 11:54.32 | Rienzilla | halcyforn: you want swap as a last resort. Computers which are swapping continuously are completely unusable |
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| 11:54.55 | jelly | alexbodn: http://paste.debian.net/107566/ |
| 11:55.19 | Rienzilla | your system will probably boot with 64M ram, but you won't have much left to run any programs, regardless of the amount of swap you allocate |
| 11:55.24 | Bushmills | halcyforn: your system may develop too much methane, using that much swamp |
| 11:55.32 | jelly | alexbodn: that's from "reportbug libreoffice-writer" |
| 11:55.40 | Rienzilla | lol |
| 11:55.40 | halcyforn | hmmm |
| 11:55.45 | Rienzilla | swamp-space :) |
| 11:55.58 | Rienzilla | watch out for crocodiles |
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| 11:56.07 | Iridos | also: here be dragons |
| 11:56.08 | simonrvn | alligators.. |
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| 11:56.21 | alexbodn | jelly: i've reported it already, but rene (the maintainer) couldn't get time to look at my report. you don't have to submit yours, especially that the bug didn't raise for you |
| 11:56.32 | halcyforn | yes but i think i sue only to websites sometimes watch film and e -mail |
| 11:56.45 | halcyforn | and maybe work on 64mb ram |
| 11:56.50 | Bushmills | halcyforn: as X terminal, 64 MiB and X are perfect |
| 11:57.00 | jelly | alexbodn: I wasn't going to report, just using it to gather depends and versions thereof |
| 11:57.14 | alexbodn | jelly. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. i'm comparing your report with my reality ;) |
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| 11:57.55 | simonrvn | jelly: there's probably some little function that grabs all that dep data and formats it |
| 11:58.13 | jelly | alexbodn: http://paste.debian.net/107567/ for the metapackage |
| 11:58.35 | jelly | simonrvn: there probably is. |
| 11:58.39 | halcyforn | how to instal debian witch fluxbox when i use net install. ( i long time dont instal debian) |
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| 11:59.17 | Bushmills | you boot, then follow the dialogs |
| 11:59.25 | alexbodn | jelly: ah, for libreoffice itself. thanks again |
| 11:59.31 | halcyforn | and i can chose window manager ? |
| 11:59.37 | jelly | simonrvn: finding it would mean spending more time than pressing q on reportbug |
| 11:59.39 | halcyforn | i tyhink use a fluxbox |
| 11:59.47 | Bushmills | install as bare system, and add fluxbox manually |
| 12:00.02 | simonrvn | jelly: oh, you were just wanting the output itself. |
| 12:00.09 | Bushmills | don't choose "desktop" |
| 12:00.23 | jelly | alexbodn: I'm basically not upgrading anything for a month until testing and unstable settle down for a bit ;-) |
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| 12:01.41 | alexbodn | jelly: i'm carrying this bug even more time. hope that upgrading some package will eliminatae the problem. |
| 12:01.46 | billythekid | hi guys |
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| 12:01.59 | billythekid | who wants to turn my software into hardware ;) |
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| 12:02.08 | dotslashdot | oh yes |
| 12:02.19 | dotslashdot | woops wrong chan |
| 12:02.23 | Es0teric | i have a php5 fastcgi script on the server, how do i get it to work without giving me a 500 internal server error? |
| 12:02.55 | billythekid | i need something with bigger capacity than a 3.5 inch floppy disk to get by harddrive going |
| 12:03.12 | gary_golden | hey folks. my nautilus thinks that all the files out there are text/plain. That's it e.g. jpeg images are text/plain (opens with gedit). What's wrong? |
| 12:03.20 | jelly | alexbodn: does it happen on a newly created account (ie. one without your dotfiles and dotdirs) |
| 12:03.41 | billythekid | its because you have too much porn |
| 12:03.44 | gary_golden | Es0teric: apache error.log knows the answer, really |
| 12:04.17 | Es0teric | gary_golden how do i get the apache error log to show? |
| 12:04.35 | gary_golden | Es0teric: it should be in /var/log/apache |
| 12:04.44 | Es0teric | thanks |
| 12:04.58 | billythekid | oh amsterdam |
| 12:04.58 | billythekid | i love amersterdam |
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| 12:05.24 | dotslashdot | hi |
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| 12:08.38 | alexbodn | jelly: it happens under any condition: with either home local or remote, with or without creation of ~/.libreoffice |
| 12:08.57 | alexbodn | with any extension installed |
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| 12:10.10 | jelly | alexbodn: don't use sid! |
| 12:10.17 | jelly | <g> |
| 12:10.18 | ROosy | hello |
| 12:10.51 | alexbodn | jelly: i have a system similar to yours. just thought it doesn't happen on sid. |
| 12:10.57 | ROosy | i have a compil error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lG ? |
| 12:11.06 | ROosy | no find this in google |
| 12:11.08 | ROosy | ..... |
| 12:11.13 | alexbodn | now i'm trying to be like you ;) |
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| 12:11.18 | jelly | alexbodn: don't mix releases! <g> |
| 12:11.38 | jelly | (follow what I say, not what I've done) |
| 12:11.52 | alexbodn | you did it and you don't have the bug ;) |
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| 12:13.29 | JustMeSomeGuy | hello uh where can i get the netinst image for lenny? squeeze isnt working for my laptop and there is no image on the server anymore |
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| 12:18.01 | Iridos | !install lenny |
| 12:18.01 | dpkg | Links to Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 ("Lenny") installation images are provided at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/debian-installer/ . Note that Lenny has been superseded by Squeeze, ask me about <install squeeze>. See also <errata lenny> and <lenny install guide>. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.8/ |
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| 12:20.57 | JustMeSomeGuy | Iridos, thank you |
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| 12:25.19 | colo-work | hm |
| 12:25.34 | colo-work | turns out thet apt-xapian-index was too much for my poor little ARM computer |
| 12:25.44 | colo-work | something like this shouldn't be enabled by default imho |
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| 12:33.51 | blahdeblah | Hi all. A package that was in lenny was removed in squeeze, then is back in wheezy - how can i find out why? (The package in question is ntop, but i'd like to know the generic meta-answer as well as the specific one.) I've searched bug reports and can't find anything obvious in the bug descriptions. Do i have to read every detail of every bug, or is there a more efficient way? |
| 12:34.43 | themill | blahdeblah: the package's qa page will normally tell you. In this case, it was a licencing problem I think (gpl code linking against openssl, iirc). |
| 12:34.54 | abrotman | jordanm: fix ntop! |
| 12:34.54 | themill | looks at jordanm |
| 12:35.09 | abrotman | !removals |
| 12:35.09 | dpkg | The log of Debian package removals (including removal reasons) for this year is at http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt . For logs of previous years, see http://ftp-master.debian.org/#removed |
| 12:35.50 | gary_golden | anyone knows how nautilus get info about mime types? |
| 12:37.06 | blahdeblah | abrotman: All i can see there is records of it being removed from experimental. |
| 12:37.24 | abrotman | you mean all you can see in 2011? |
| 12:38.03 | abrotman | blahdeblah: IIRC, it was very much unloved and mildly broken |
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| 12:38.26 | abrotman | blahdeblah: if you wait around a bit, jordanm can probably give you more info, I believe he is the maintainer or caretaker now |
| 12:38.26 | blahdeblah | abrotman: I went all the way back to 2005 and searched in the page |
| 12:39.06 | blahdeblah | doesn't feel much closer to the meta-answer ;-) |
| 12:39.20 | abrotman | blahdeblah: i remember him talking about having it removed, i don't recall why |
| 12:39.49 | abrotman | themill: they resolved the openssl bit |
| 12:39.58 | blahdeblah | found bug #601820 |
| 12:40.04 | themill | blahdeblah: normally the QA page http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/ntop.html will have a removal reason listed. Around release time; this one doesn't for some odd reason... probably because the release team were concentrating on getting squeeze out the door rather than documenting what they did |
| 12:40.45 | blahdeblah | themill: Presumably |
| 12:40.53 | abrotman | blahdeblah: there you go .. see, it was unloved! |
| 12:41.04 | blahdeblah | So in general, http://packages.qa.debian.org/letter/packagename.html is the place too look? |
| 12:41.09 | blahdeblah | s/too /to / |
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| 12:42.01 | themill | blahdeblah: http://packages.qa.debian.org/$package is sufficient. It's linked to from the packages.d.o pages too |
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| 12:42.30 | blahdeblah | cool - thanks themill |
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| 13:02.40 | shashi_ | can anyone tell which mirror can be used while installing debian6.0-Squeeze |
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| 13:03.33 | Bushmills | shashi_: apt-spy can tell you |
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| 13:04.37 | linuxxx | hello |
| 13:04.40 | shashi_ | Bushmails: apt-spy ? |
| 13:04.52 | Bushmills | shashi_: no, apt-spy |
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| 13:05.19 | shashi_ | whose tat |
| 13:05.20 | abrotman | huh? any mirror should be able to be used |
| 13:05.25 | linuxxx | i have fluxbox installed but if i press right click on the mousepad it has the same effect as left click how can i solve this?? |
| 13:05.38 | Bushmills | ,versions apt-spy |
| 13:05.39 | judd | Package apt-spy on i386 -- lenny: 3.1-19; sid: 3.1-19; squeeze: 3.1-19; wheezy: 3.1-19 |
| 13:05.41 | abrotman | it's a mac, there only is one button |
| 13:05.46 | AimHere | ~/.fluxbox/keys allows you to mess with the key config |
| 13:05.52 | abrotman | shashi_: what's wrong with the mirro you've chosen ? |
| 13:05.55 | abrotman | mirror |
| 13:06.01 | AimHere | man fluxbox for more info on how to use that file |
| 13:06.24 | shashi_ | abrotman: it says mirror not found |
| 13:06.28 | linuxxx | AimHere, you say that for me? |
| 13:06.37 | AimHere | Yes, linuxxx |
| 13:06.45 | linuxxx | AimHere, ok i will take a look |
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| 13:07.02 | abrotman | shashi_: for all the mirrors you've tried ? |
| 13:08.04 | shashi_ | hmm no |
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| 13:08.19 | shashi_ | but there are so many mirrors |
| 13:08.38 | abrotman | yeah, they should all work by now |
| 13:09.04 | shashi_ | so instead of trying each one , now i am asking anyone tried installing |
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| 13:10.07 | shashi_ | abtotman: is it ok if i skip tat step and later include mirror entry |
| 13:10.25 | shashi_ | sorry abrotman |
| 13:10.25 | abrotman | sure |
| 13:10.38 | abrotman | or unplug the network cable and configure all of your network stuff later |
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| 13:11.12 | shashi_ | abrotman: no need of configuraing dhcp also |
| 13:11.13 | shashi_ | ? |
| 13:11.20 | Es0teric | ok so my debian server was running fine until i enabled the fcgid mod on apache, now its givin me a 403 forbidden error... how do i fix that? |
| 13:11.26 | shashi_ | i mean at the time of installation |
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| 13:26.45 | concon | It hits me as strange that dd-wrt doesn't work in firefox and epiphany |
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| 13:27.33 | Bushmills | openwrt can be used with either of these browsers |
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| 13:30.43 | Rienzilla | so does dd-wrt? |
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| 13:33.18 | Bushmills | i'd be surprised if it was otherwise, but if that's concon's experience, i can't contradict that |
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| 13:36.32 | pindonga | hey, I was wondering, is it possible to have a script do the signing of a package when building, so I can automate the building of packages? |
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| 13:42.25 | macpower | bonjour a tous |
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| 13:44.11 | macpower | avez-vous deja reussi a monter une deuxieme partition ext3 sous windows avec ext2fds ou explore2fs |
| 13:44.12 | macpower | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.13 | itchi | macpower: Salut mec |
| 13:44.24 | macpower | salut itchi |
| 13:44.33 | itchi | macpower: jamais essayer ca |
| 13:44.48 | itchi | macpower: j'utilise plus le Windows :D |
| 13:44.51 | macpower | une partiton fonctionne bien mais la deuxieme n'est pas visible |
| 13:44.56 | xand | !fr |
| 13:44.56 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 13:45.03 | itchi | macpower: Pour info c'est en Englais ici :S |
| 13:45.23 | itchi | bah, Anglais ou quelque chose dans ce genre lol |
| 13:45.39 | itchi | Back to our roots :D |
| 13:45.57 | macpower | ha sorry |
| 13:46.07 | concon | Bushmills: I didn't mean that dd-wrt doesn't work in firefox as a rule, it just didn't on my computer |
| 13:46.19 | concon | Factory default and re-flash fixed that issue |
| 13:46.23 | itchi | macpower: #debian-fr is cool (sometimes :D) |
| 13:46.57 | concon | So I agree with all of you, it should work on both of those browsers, which is why I thought it was strange |
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| 13:51.38 | Iridos | life is stranger than fiction |
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| 13:53.07 | concon | Damnit, I bought the wrong router |
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| 13:53.38 | concon | This one doesn't support 5GHz N networks |
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| 13:54.40 | abrotman | (seems like a pretty obvious item to note on a box) |
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| 14:01.13 | zaarg | how come locale is screwed on every debian squeeze box i've used? all one should have to do it select the right language during installation but that doesn't seem to stop it moaning |
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| 14:02.50 | themill | zaarg: ESP-over-IRC isn't as easy as you seem to think. pastebin? |
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| 14:15.01 | alexxio | hi,i have a question for my webcam, it was working before the squeeze upgrade, now instead streamer says movie writer initialization failed, but gstreamer-properties and cheese work |
| 14:15.05 | alexxio | what can i do? |
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| 14:15.17 | alexxio | (i have a logitech qcam express) |
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| 14:17.05 | justin | alexxio: movie writer implies more of an output problem |
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| 14:17.34 | alexxio | justin: i am browsing internet without finding a solution |
| 14:17.40 | alexxio | because it works actually |
| 14:17.44 | alexxio | but not with streamer |
| 14:18.07 | alexxio | cheese and gstreamer make me see the image |
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| 14:18.31 | alexxio | it seems just like i miss a jpeg codec or something |
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| 14:21.28 | xyzp | ok, är denna rätt? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vlc-context-menu/ |
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| 14:21.39 | xyzp | sorry |
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| 14:25.28 | kshallid | he there |
| 14:25.36 | kshallid | s/he/hi |
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| 14:26.09 | rigved | hi everyone...i want to install debian on a pc using netboot. here, after the bootloader on the pc has loaded, i want it to load the installation image from a dhcp server, which will be on my laptop. can anyone tell me how to do this? or can anyone tell me if such a thing is documented somewhere on the debian manual? |
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| 14:26.18 | kshallid | could u tell me if is new grou2 with support for multipath include in installer ? |
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| 14:26.35 | joe6 | need help, please? I had a 2 disk raid1 array. I removed (--remove) and added a new disk to the raid1 as I am under the impression that the disk I removed was not good. Anyway, I got the raid-1 to sync up fine with the new disk and grub installed and everything is good. My problem is that when I have just the 2 harddisks in the machine, everything works fine. But, if I add the old hard disk, the mdadm does not load saying that the "persiste |
| 14:26.42 | joe6 | btw, I did do the mdadm --detail /dev/md0 >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
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| 14:26.54 | justin | rigved: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en |
| 14:26.54 | joe6 | and I can confirm that the uuid is the uuid of the new disks. |
| 14:27.02 | joe6 | need help, please? I had a 2 disk raid1 array. I removed (--remove) and added a new disk to the raid1 as I am under the impression that the disk I removed was not good. Anyway, I got the raid-1 to sync up fine with the new disk and grub installed and everything is good. My problem is that when I have just the 2 harddisks in the machine, everything works fine. But, if I add the old hard disk, the mdadm does not load saying that the "persiste |
| 14:27.14 | joe6 | sorry about the double posting above? |
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| 14:27.26 | joe6 | and I even changed the mdadm.conf to read the "Device from just the /dev/sda1 partiton". |
| 14:27.46 | homie | split your message |
| 14:27.48 | homie | it got cut |
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| 14:27.52 | homie | too long |
| 14:27.58 | joe6 | homie, where? |
| 14:28.05 | homie | at persiste |
| 14:28.38 | pom | Anyone has any idea what might cause this? http://pastie.org/1562719 |
| 14:28.39 | joe6 | "persistent boot block of sdb1 does not match the raid-1 array" (the sdb1 is the old disk). Is there any way that I can get into the system so that I can format the sdb1 (old disk) |
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| 14:29.11 | joe6 | the grub seems to come up fine and I changed the BIOS boot order to have th old disk at the end. |
| 14:29.21 | justin | joe6: boot off a cd or something and wipe the old disk? |
| 14:29.39 | justin | or at least just zero out the first megabyte or so |
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| 14:30.19 | joe6 | justin, smart, i was trying to do that by booting from the md0. Anyway, booting off the cd is a no-hassle idea and simple too.. the pure genius of it.. |
| 14:30.23 | joe6 | justin, thanks. |
| 14:30.39 | justin | joe6: just make sure you zero out the right disk :) |
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| 14:31.44 | joe6 | justin, sure, will have to be wary of that.. Thanks.. |
| 14:31.53 | Iridos | what would be the easiest way to export some messages from gmail in mbox format? I usually have a forward to a different account, but missed 5 messages that I'd like to get intact... |
| 14:31.57 | Iridos | imap client? |
| 14:31.58 | xyan | joe6: mdadm --zero-superblock takes care of it |
| 14:32.55 | Peitolm | does anyone know why http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/powerpc/iso-dvd/MD5SUMS lists 8 iso images, yet http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/powerpc/iso-dvd/ only lists 1 iso file |
| 14:32.55 | xyan | joe6: eww in mdadms misc mode of course |
| 14:33.24 | xyan | Peitolm: the filenames are included in the md5sum file so you already know what they are for |
| 14:34.43 | joe6 | xyan: ok, thanks a lot. |
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| 14:35.20 | joe6 | just had an old knoppix disk lying around. Hopefully, it has mdadm. |
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| 14:36.07 | joe6 | isn't that a bit weird though, shouldn't mdadm ignore the disk that it does not care about.? |
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| 14:36.10 | Peitolm | xyan: that's my point, the filenames in the md5sum seem to suggest there should be 8 images.. |
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| 14:36.52 | Peitolm | isn't cdimage.debian.org the definative place for downloads? |
| 14:38.22 | Peitolm | i think there's a b0rked script somewhere, the http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/powerpc/iso-cd/MD5SUMS file suggests there should be 50 odd -iso files for the CD versoin |
| 14:38.24 | xyan | Peitolm: yeah other archs have 8 images you are right check another mirror then |
| 14:38.45 | xyan | Peitolm: sure its the main mirror imo, check mailinglist/bugtracker if it is a known problem |
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| 14:39.02 | rigved | Peitolm: not for what i want. anyways i found out what i wanted |
| 14:39.04 | rigved | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en |
| 14:39.12 | xyan | Peitolm: maybe space constraints, there are jigsaw files for jigdo you might use to build your own set of dvds |
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| 14:41.03 | xyan | Peitolm: http://ftp10.tw.freebsd.org/pub/Linux/debian/debian-cd/current/powerpc/iso-dvd/ |
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| 14:42.13 | Peitolm | yikes, when did debian become 8 DVDs, ah well, i'll stick to the netboot then |
| 14:42.22 | Peitolm | thanks for the help xyan |
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| 14:43.24 | joe6 | the #linux channel has a lot more gibberish on it than technical stuff. Is there a better #irc channel? or does it happen like that during certain times.? |
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| 14:43.38 | joe6 | xyan, justin, everything is cool, now. the md array is working fine. |
| 14:43.51 | PinkFreud | Peitolm: probably when the official repos grew to be as large as they are :) |
| 14:43.52 | themill | Peitolm: apparently this is by design; you can generate the rest of the ISOs yourself from jigdo and they are the md5sums you'd get were you to do that. |
| 14:44.22 | Peitolm | wishes there was a README in the directory that explained that |
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| 14:44.58 | PinkFreud | joe6: sorry, this is #debian, not #linux |
| 14:45.14 | xyan | !tell Peitolm about jigdo |
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| 14:46.02 | sekon | joe6: quiet possibly this one :) |
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| 14:46.53 | xyan | Peitolm: oh yeah btw the faq states why http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#not-all-images |
| 14:46.56 | themill | Peitolm: yes... this has been discussed and may even happen one day. |
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| 14:47.20 | linuxxx | i have broadcom 4313 and folled this guide http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 after doing point 4 of the guide i do ifconfig wlan0 up but then if i do iwlist wlan0 scanning my pc freezes and can' acces at any tty |
| 14:47.51 | Peitolm | xyan: ah, for some reason i'd read that previously, forgotten it, and then thought that wouldn't apply to the .dvd images for some reason |
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| 14:51.07 | rigved | also, can anyone tell me how to find out which packages are available in each debian squeeze dvd here - http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 14:51.33 | themill | !cd contents |
| 14:51.33 | dpkg | To find out what is on what disk, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ (e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/list-cd/). |
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| 15:02.25 | OpenTokix | Does someone know how you can get a graph from GB/month day or year instead of Mbit/s ? |
| 15:02.34 | OpenTokix | for cacti for instance? |
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| 15:04.24 | cognitiaclaeves | Is there a simple way to get a byte-count of all data being transferred via rsync ? |
| 15:05.02 | peterS | cognitiaclaeves: it tells you, if you use -P, doesn't it? |
| 15:05.04 | cognitiaclaeves | ( I should add - automated jobs kicked off by cron on debian lenny ) |
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| 15:06.55 | peterS | well and --stats |
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| 15:07.27 | cognitiaclaeves | peterS: Yes, but that would be by individual jobs ( and there will be many ) --- I'm looking more for something that will tell me how much of the network pipe is being used. |
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| 15:08.16 | peterS | cognitiaclaeves: so this has nothing to do with rsync, then. you will want to run some sort of monitoring (rrd, cacti, etc) to get network utilization |
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| 15:09.16 | jelly | daedhel: welcome to the world of sane nicknames |
| 15:10.07 | cognitiaclaeves | Well, rsync is what I'm using to transfer the files, that's why I mentioned it, but, at the heart, no, this really doesn't have anything to do with rsync. But-- I don't want to install monitoring software for this, I'd rather write a short script that will give me output when needed. |
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| 15:12.08 | itchi | cognitiaclaeves: you can use some "lightweight" monitoring tool, somethings like vnstat |
| 15:12.45 | alexxio | i get this with streamer... what can i do?? |
| 15:12.45 | alexxio | no way to get: 320x240 JPEG (JFIF) |
| 15:13.03 | itchi | cognitiaclaeves: just install it, and see, kinda small thing |
| 15:13.04 | cognitiaclaeves | itchi: That looks like what I'm looking for. Thanks! |
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| 15:20.48 | pznate | quick question regarding security, i get the following error nearly daily, and it seems to be as a result of login attempts to the machine, but i cant seem to determine if this is so |
| 15:20.53 | pznate | pam_env(sshd:setcred): Unable to open env file: /etc/default/locale: No such file or directory |
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| 15:21.18 | cognitiaclaeves | iftop is even better. Thanks! |
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| 15:25.03 | simonrvn | pznate: does it exist? |
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| 15:27.41 | unreal-dude | to simonrvn, it does not |
| 15:27.43 | unreal-dude | should it? |
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| 15:28.23 | simonrvn | very likely yes ;). it's obviously looking for it. |
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| 15:28.48 | unreal-dude | my only concern is why is it looking for this file now and not a few months back? :p |
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| 15:29.19 | unreal-dude | i guess i can just touch a file there and see if it clears the errors, i dont think an empty file can be a security concern |
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| 15:30.46 | unreal-dude | ok, i just did figure it out while searching for the files syntax |
| 15:31.18 | simonrvn | ok |
| 15:31.20 | unreal-dude | I just upgraded to lenny which moved the language settings for /etc/environment to /etc/default/locale |
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| 15:31.36 | unreal-dude | but, thx for the support |
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| 15:31.57 | simonrvn | yup |
| 15:32.10 | unreal-dude | i guess i leave this file empty, /etc/environment is empty :P |
| 15:33.18 | alexxio | what does this mean? |
| 15:33.19 | alexxio | Errore GPG: http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze Release: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 15:33.38 | alexxio | (the following signatures were not verified because public key is not available) |
| 15:34.16 | dvs | alexxio: ask debian-multimedia.org |
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| 15:34.26 | dvs | alexxio: they probably have a new key |
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| 15:35.02 | alexxio | should i remove from reposit? |
| 15:35.13 | alexxio | or i should maintain it or change? |
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| 15:35.33 | dvs | alexxio: you should maintain it |
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| 15:36.11 | alexxio | ok |
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| 15:37.20 | dvs | alexxio: They have a new key as of 12-26-2010 |
| 15:37.28 | alexxio | ok |
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| 16:04.15 | treebeen | i was running testing, now that squeeze is stable, do i need to change some stuff in sources.list and pinning? |
| 16:04.45 | simonrvn | probably |
| 16:04.50 | treebeen | for example chromium 9 was in experimental before, now it seems to be in sid |
| 16:04.57 | simonrvn | at least review it |
| 16:05.27 | treebeen | and to i see that right? there is not testing anymore? |
| 16:05.30 | treebeen | *do |
| 16:05.56 | simonrvn | no, testing is called wheezy |
| 16:06.29 | treebeen | ah, smart move :) |
| 16:07.20 | joe6 | can i use resize2fs on a mounted working md0 device? |
| 16:07.50 | Azrael_- | joe6: online resize has to be supported. most current kernels do |
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| 16:08.25 | joe6 | Azrael_: ok , thanks. |
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| 16:10.37 | thewanderer1 | can GRUB boot from a Linux extended partition in MBR? |
| 16:10.44 | thewanderer1 | (Squeeze) |
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| 16:10.52 | Jarvis | as far as I am aware, yes |
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| 16:11.07 | thewanderer1 | I won't have any primary partitions in Linux |
| 16:11.35 | dsockwell | i'm using a pre-release squeeze netinstall and it gave me some guff about the volatile repository. is that supposed to not be around any more? |
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| 16:11.48 | ansgar | !volatile |
| 16:11.48 | dpkg | Squeeze users, ask me about <squeeze volatile>. Debian Volatile is a project that aims at keeping the <oldstable> distribution up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free See also <volatile mirrors>. http://www.debian.org/volatile/ |
| 16:11.48 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 16:11.57 | dsockwell | thanks |
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| 16:12.20 | Jarvis | thewanderer1: as long as there is a gap between the mbr, and first partition grub should be able to boot from it |
| 16:12.31 | Jarvis | even if said parititon is a logical one |
| 16:12.31 | K3rl0u4rn | hi people, any particular channel for debian packaging question or is it the right place ? |
| 16:12.47 | ansgar | K3rl0u4rn: #debian-mentors on OFTC |
| 16:12.56 | K3rl0u4rn | thanks |
| 16:13.47 | thewanderer1 | Jarvis: I don't know this, the laptop already has Windows 7... |
| 16:14.06 | HackeMate | where can i ask about webdav server? |
| 16:14.27 | thewanderer1 | partition 1 starts on block 1 |
| 16:14.36 | Jarvis | yea, that should be fine |
| 16:16.25 | Jarvis | treebeen: as for your question, if you wish to stay with squeeze, then edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change testing to squeeze, and then run apt-get update |
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| 16:19.34 | toad_ | upgrading from lenny to squeeze kde3 -> kde4 destroyed my address book, who do i complain to? is there any point? and does getting the data back require installing kde3 ? :< |
| 16:19.41 | r\wWorld | i have a laptop that i'm sure will require nonfree drivers for the wifi, if i use the installer dvd is there a good chance that the drivers will be installed ? or do i have to download the firmware before i install debian ? |
| 16:22.05 | r\wWorld | the wifi card is Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG |
| 16:22.15 | cahoot | only need firmare |
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| 16:22.30 | cahoot | firmware, the module comes with kernel |
| 16:22.51 | r\wWorld | would the firmware be available on the dvd though ? |
| 16:23.01 | cahoot | IIRC the firmware is in non-free |
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| 16:25.17 | r\wWorld | would these instruction, http://linux-bsd-sharing.blogspot.com/2009/08/howto-intel-prowireless-3945abg-on.html , apply to squeeze as well ? |
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| 16:26.49 | toad_ | where did kontact keep the address book in kde3 on lenny? |
| 16:26.59 | bolt-work | woot? squeeze release? \o/ |
| 16:26.59 | intok | Theres no lxsplit in the Debian PPC repos? |
| 16:27.02 | cahoot | once you have the firmware in place yes |
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| 16:28.13 | cahoot | r\wWorld: no chance of using plain ethernet (cable) at install? |
| 16:28.18 | r\wWorld | no |
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| 16:32.11 | waterloo2005 | How to get gpg of deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US squeeze/non-US main contrib non-free ? thanks |
| 16:33.16 | josi | Hey ... I noticed the openldap config files changed dramatically, they did get converted correctly though ... is there anything I can read about how to use them now? they are ldifs now it seems |
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| 16:33.38 | treebeen | Jarvis: ah, I guess that's already the case, I was a little confused because chromium 9 went from experimental to sid |
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| 16:34.58 | ao2 | hi, can any vim user help me verify a thing in Debian SID? I am experiencing a misbehavior and I'd like to check whether happens to me only or not. |
| 16:35.08 | ao2 | I guess the problem could be in the debian vim package because other vim users are not experiencing it. |
| 16:35.16 | ao2 | here are the directions: |
| 16:35.27 | ao2 | 1. Create a config file (e.g. ao2_test.vim) |
| 16:35.34 | treebeen | !vim |
| 16:35.34 | dpkg | [vim] Vi IMproved, an enhanced <vi> editor. Extremely popular clone with syntax highlighting and graphical X interface available. vim-tiny package no longer installs vim <alternatives> as of 2:7.2.049-1 (Debian bug #529977). See also <vim refcard>, <cream>, <colored pager>, <vim syntax highlighting>. http://www.vim.org/ http://vim.wikia.com/ #vim on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 16:35.47 | ao2 | 2. Put those lines in it: |
| 16:35.54 | thewanderer1 | josi: I've also run into that issue... there are hardly any docs, you have to see their website (is not very informative either) |
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| 16:36.02 | ao2 | let files = system("ls") |
| 16:36.09 | ao2 | echo files |
| 16:36.18 | ao2 | 3. call it with: vim -u ao2_test.vim |
| 16:36.26 | ao2 | after those operations vim becomes unresponsive |
| 16:36.46 | josi | thewanderer1: so basically I gotta write ldfis now? ... they look like hell and suck to read . Their wesbite. openldap? |
| 16:37.11 | thewanderer1 | josi: true, and yes :P |
| 16:37.11 | AimHere | ao2: I get this: Sorry, the command is not available in this version: let files = system("ls") |
| 16:37.19 | AimHere | And the same for the second line |
| 16:38.00 | thewanderer1 | josi: you can write configs and use the converter, too... :P |
| 16:38.08 | josi | theres a converter? |
| 16:38.19 | ao2 | AimHere, what vim version? |
| 16:38.25 | ao2 | thanks anyway |
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| 16:38.30 | thewanderer1 | josi: well, how do you think the config got converted? |
| 16:38.31 | AimHere | Well I'll install the latest one for Sid |
| 16:38.34 | josi | man ... way to make it even more horrible to wite ACLs |
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| 16:38.42 | josi | uhm yes ... hehe :P |
| 16:38.43 | josi | woops |
| 16:39.07 | thewanderer1 | josi: there's always libnss-mysql... |
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| 16:39.14 | AimHere | ao2, I upgraded to 7.3.35 and it does exactly what I'd expect |
| 16:39.19 | josi | ah hell no :P |
| 16:39.23 | AimHere | Lists a bunch of files before starting the main editor |
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| 16:43.38 | thewanderer1 | anyone with working RTL8101E Ethernet? the HCL says it's supported but some people were having issues lately... |
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| 16:43.43 | treebeen | !go |
| 16:43.49 | ajikeshi | !baduk |
| 16:44.19 | treebeen | !windows |
| 16:44.19 | dpkg | "PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work." Support for Microsoft Windows operating systems is available at ##windows on irc.freenode.net. |
| 16:45.35 | r\wWorld | well it's not really windows, its the manufacturers |
| 16:45.58 | thewanderer1 | → #debian-offtopic :) |
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| 16:48.33 | Citizen666 | !beer me |
| 16:48.33 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Gulden Drak for citizen666 |
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| 16:49.55 | treebeen | zna, jr qba arrq na bssgbcvp punaary |
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| 16:51.32 | thewanderer1 | yeah, we need a rot13 command instead of typing that to php5-cli though |
| 16:51.52 | treebeen | !rot13 what |
| 16:51.52 | dpkg | jung |
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| 16:53.35 | treebeen | !do get the f**k out |
| 16:53.35 | dpkg | refuses to do get the f**k out |
| 16:53.45 | treebeen | !do get the f**k out |
| 16:53.45 | dpkg | eagerly does get the f**k out |
| 16:53.49 | themill | treebeen: enough |
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| 16:54.18 | treebeen | themill: terrgvatf |
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| 16:54.35 | toad_ | okay, it looks like i need to remove the directory, create a new address book, create a test entry in it, then import the old vcard file |
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| 16:54.47 | toad_ | something wierd happened i guess |
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| 16:55.06 | themill | treebeen: perhaps you wanted #defocus |
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| 16:56.28 | trump | hi, I've use this guide http://wiki.debian.org/AesXtsEncryptedLvm to create and encrypted disk. Except for the boot partition everything worked out well. I use an usb key for my boot partition so I just had to mount it separately before using debootstrap and chroot to configure the new system. But somehow grub does not load and the menu.lst ist not generated. |
| 16:56.34 | trump | +d |
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| 16:57.39 | Joelito | hi guys, I don't have internet connection after install debian netinstall |
| 16:57.43 | thewanderer1 | awwwww. how to enable tap-to-click on a Synaptics touchpad? I am now in GDM and it won't react |
| 16:57.45 | trump | If I use update-grub I get that error ls: cannot access /casper-rw-backing: No such file or directory |
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| 16:58.04 | Joelito | this is lspci: thernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01) |
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| 16:58.17 | Joelito | do I need firmware? |
| 16:58.24 | karlpinc | Joelito: What's lspci -nn say? (The pciid is most helpful.) |
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| 16:58.57 | trump | thewanderer1: synclient TapButton1=1 |
| 16:59.18 | karlpinc | Joelito: [xxx:yyyy] sort of thing. |
| 16:59.33 | thewanderer1 | trump: but GDM starts at system boot... |
| 16:59.38 | Joelito | karlpinc: http://pastebin.com/JxH3xhkc |
| 16:59.41 | thewanderer1 | should I make a config file or something? |
| 17:00.30 | karlpinc | ,pciid [10ec:8168] |
| 17:00.31 | judd | [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8168 |
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| 17:00.59 | trump | thewanderer1: so just press ctrl+alt+f1 |
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| 17:01.08 | Joelito | btw: I'm using ubuntu MiniCD right now, since debian doesn't love anymore :( |
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| 17:01.42 | thewanderer1 | trump: well, I can work in console, but I'd really prefer to have tap-to-click working... and synclient sets this only temporarily |
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| 17:02.39 | karlpinc | Joelito: It says it needs kernel module r8169. Does lsmod say that that's loaded? |
| 17:03.20 | trump | thewanderer1: then just add Option "TapButton1" "1" to the xorg.conf |
| 17:03.35 | Joelito | karlpinc, I don't know mucho about system config. but what can I do if it doesn't? |
| 17:03.39 | thewanderer1 | trump: thanks, I couldn't find that one |
| 17:04.25 | trump | thewanderer1: more exactly http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58834&hilit=50+synaptics#p348776 |
| 17:04.26 | karlpinc | Joelito: Dunno. One thing at a time. |
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| 17:04.47 | simonrvn | Joelito: run lsmod like he said, in a terminal of some sort, and look. |
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| 17:05.43 | Joelito | karlpinc: but how is possible that I can use netinstall (which download packages during the installation) and after the reboot, I don't internet connection? |
| 17:06.32 | karlpinc | Joelito: The installer kernel is not necessarly identical to what gets installed. |
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| 17:07.03 | karlpinc | Joelito: (Or some other problem. If you let us help you maybe we'll figure it out.) |
| 17:07.14 | simonrvn | there's at least 2 reboots involved |
| 17:07.23 | trump | thewanderer1: Ah, maybe you have to use a .desktop file if the xorg.conf configuration does not work with the login screen |
| 17:07.29 | gnusosa | Hello, while trying to connect to my wpa wireless ap, I get the following from the dmesg: reason=2 |
| 17:07.58 | simonrvn | real helpful warning message there |
| 17:08.00 | Joelito | karlpinc: ok.. |
| 17:08.57 | quiritius | my iceweasel in squeeze keeps opening file:///home/<user> folder as home page (which is set to google.com). removing ~/.mozilla doesn't change the behavior. what's wrong? |
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| 17:09.17 | Joelito | karlpinc: so what to do? |
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| 17:09.38 | karlpinc | has a feeling that resolving this with Joelito is going to be slow, because he's rebooting to debug. |
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| 17:09.58 | trump | I am trying to install a new system. Using update-grub or grub-install grub is installed correctly but without generating the menu.lst and with that error: cannot access /casper-rw-backing: No such file or directory |
| 17:10.04 | karlpinc | Joelito: Any chance of getting on irc _while_ having Debian running? |
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| 17:11.42 | simonrvn | trump: sounds like installer leftovers. be sure to file a bug on debian-installer. check the scripts. maybe see if the grub that's there is a full version. |
| 17:11.52 | Joelito | karlpinc: nop :( |
| 17:13.00 | trump | simonrvn: Ah, I am installing via debootstrap and chroot |
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| 17:14.43 | karlpinc | Joelito: Ok then... |
| 17:15.44 | karlpinc | Joelito: You not only want to see if that module is loaded by typing lsmod. You also want to examine the output of the dmesg command and, likely, /var/log/messages content to see if there's anything in there that says anything. "man less" is your friend. |
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| 17:16.30 | karlpinc | Joelito: So, go away and reboot and come back and let the channel know what you found. |
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| 17:16.55 | Joelito | ok, ne right back |
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| 17:18.07 | karlpinc | I just can't figure out how to use judd to get kernel versions. /msg judd versions linux-image does not work. Nor does "kernel". Under what name is judd hiding kernel version info? |
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| 17:20.19 | subsume | I have a command in crontab that I am positive works, yet cron fails saying the command is not found. Its as root's cron |
| 17:20.39 | themill | karlpinc: "/msg judd kernels" or "/msg judd kernels --release sid"; judd doesn't do fuzzy matching on package names and linux-image isn't a real package. |
| 17:20.49 | themill | karlpinc: (nor is "kernel") |
| 17:21.10 | thewanderer1 | on kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 (Debian Squeeze), rfkill0 which belongs to Dell Wireless B/G/N (Broadcom 4313, wl driver) is not handled properly |
| 17:21.28 | thewanderer1 | the rfkill state always shows 1 |
| 17:23.07 | thewanderer1 | also, there is no visible state indicator on my hardware so I don't know if it's up or down... |
| 17:23.53 | ao2 | AimHere, if you've got some more time, could you try again after installing the vim-gnome package? |
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| 17:24.59 | eshat | GRUB 1.99 ignores GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY="true", any workaround ? |
| 17:26.00 | arnestig | My new HP dv7-4181 has some issues using the F1-F12 keys. They don't seem to map correctly. Is this solved by using some xkeymap binding? |
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| 17:26.41 | thewanderer1 | arnestig: you could use xmodmap to fix that, yes |
| 17:26.53 | arnestig | alright, will give that a shot then. thanks. ;) |
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| 17:27.07 | deno | hi guys |
| 17:27.09 | deno | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: quilt sdk-fiasco-gen libncurses5-dev sharutils uboot-mkimage u-boot-for-power-kernel |
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| 17:27.17 | deno | is it an error or a warning? |
| 17:27.43 | staale | anybody know who I can make www-data echo to /dev/ttyUSB0 ? I have added the group dialout, and it is working when I su www-data in console, but not from php's system, exec or passthru. apache log: /var/www/shs/test.sh: line 4: /dev/ttyUSB0: Permission denied. Thank you :) |
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| 17:30.07 | simonrvn | deno: error; fulfill the deps |
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| 17:31.27 | deno | simonrvn, uhm using: fakeroot apt-get build-dep kernel-power |
| 17:31.44 | simonrvn | uh, you can't fakeroot that |
| 17:31.53 | deno | I get: E: Build-Depends dependency for kernel-power cannot be satisfied because the package sdk-fiasco-gen cannot be found |
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| 17:32.08 | thewanderer1 | I'm now in gparted. if I choose "resize" on an NTFS partition, does it resize the filesystem as well, or does it break it by resizing the partition only? |
| 17:32.13 | simonrvn | you have a fiasco on your hands then :P |
| 17:32.25 | deno | simonrvn: it's a fiasco this kernel :D |
| 17:32.33 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 17:32.52 | themill | shock horror... out-of-debian package with out-of-debian build dependencies. |
| 17:33.00 | gary_golden | eshat: it doesn't. what made you think so? |
| 17:33.29 | eshat | gary_golden: it does,... I just found the bug. I had to replace GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY with GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY |
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| 17:34.11 | gary_golden | eshat: oh. my grub is 1.98. may be 1.99 does |
| 17:34.13 | deno | simonrvn, is there a flag for dpkg-buildpackage to ignore the deps |
| 17:34.16 | deno | ? |
| 17:34.26 | simonrvn | deno: yes, but expect it to fail |
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| 17:35.01 | deno | simonrvn, damn it :D |
| 17:35.09 | gary_golden | eshat: I'd file a bug then. such migration isn't good thing I think |
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| 17:35.27 | eshat | gary_golden: as I said, I just found a bug describing this... |
| 17:35.29 | simonrvn | well, that's you get with non-debian packages ;) |
| 17:35.45 | deno | simonrvn, do you know what is? |
| 17:35.54 | gary_golden | eshat: oh, ok. it isn't a new bug :) |
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| 17:36.00 | simonrvn | what is what? |
| 17:36.16 | humbolt | Hey, is there a way to prevent my harddrives from spinning down? |
| 17:36.41 | humbolt | or at least a way to see, when they do it? |
| 17:36.54 | deno | simonrvn, the flag I mean |
| 17:37.00 | gary_golden | humbolt: gnome-power-preferences? |
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| 17:37.12 | thewanderer1 | eh, wl won't connect to my wireless network after a suspend/resume cycle |
| 17:37.23 | yucatan | hello guys can i as root take over a screen session of another user? |
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| 17:37.41 | humbolt | gary_golden: was looking for something a little further down the stack. |
| 17:37.46 | yucatan | when i do screen -ls as root i get no sockets. |
| 17:38.05 | gary_golden | humbolt: it's done by hdparm |
| 17:38.46 | simonrvn | deno: debuild should tell you; i think the message is from dpkg-buildpackage. else you can check the manual page. |
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| 17:38.54 | gary_golden | humbolt: I'm not sure how exactly, but I'm pretty sure that you can prevent spinning down using hdparm |
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| 17:38.57 | simonrvn | (i don't remember it offhand) |
| 17:38.59 | humbolt | gary_golden: well, not quite. the opposite is done by hdparam. I can define an idle time, after which the hdd should spin-down. |
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| 17:39.04 | deno | simonrvn, k thx |
| 17:39.13 | humbolt | gary_golden: but I don't want it to spin-down at all! |
| 17:39.17 | gary_golden | humbolt: don't know then :) |
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| 17:41.51 | rafuch0 | how can limit the amount of space a folder can hold? |
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| 17:42.12 | XLV | humbolt, you need to use smartctrl |
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| 17:43.02 | eshat | rafuch0: I think that is filesystem dependend, XFS has build in quota support, if you do not use that, I think there should be a daemon providing similar functionality |
| 17:43.04 | XLV | humbolt, google for load_cycle_count problem with ubuntu, it had lots of info of many hdds on how to prevent them from spinning down |
| 17:43.25 | humbolt | XLV: ok |
| 17:43.36 | danboid | do the deb 6 dvds include the non-free repo too? |
| 17:43.38 | XLV | humbolt, and ofcourse the smartctlr values appy to debian too |
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| 17:43.58 | themill | danboid: non-free is not on the CDs at all |
| 17:44.04 | eshat | humbolt: it is /sbin/hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda |
| 17:44.10 | rafuch0 | i know that has tobe something with quota.... ummm |
| 17:44.15 | rafuch0 | i am using ext3 |
| 17:44.24 | eshat | 254 is lowest power saving profile, while 255 will disable it |
| 17:44.33 | armetiz | Hi there, do you know a chan to talk about network configuration, around iptables ;p |
| 17:44.46 | armetiz | #networking |
| 17:44.47 | armetiz | find it ;) |
| 17:44.50 | humbolt | eshat: so I'd use 255 then. |
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| 17:45.17 | humbolt | eshat: does hdparam work on SATA disks as well? |
| 17:45.21 | XLV | humbolt, again, look for that load_cycle_count thread in ubuntuforums |
| 17:45.31 | eshat | humbolt: yes |
| 17:45.34 | danboid | themill, thanks - shame! |
| 17:45.36 | Wouterdt | I'm running Debian 6 as server, how can I change the console resolution? |
| 17:45.39 | XLV | humbolt, not all hdds respond the same to changing that parameter eshat mentioned |
| 17:46.23 | XLV | humbolt, iirc some needed -B 127 or something, and similar differencies |
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| 17:48.57 | c3l | Im trying to rotate my screen (90 deg), but X keeps crashing when I do this. im on debian 6.0 with xfce. and I have no idea to solve this, any ideas? |
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| 17:53.46 | eshat | c3l: what graphics card, do you have ? |
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| 17:55.43 | c3l | eshat: ati radeon Radeon X1600, some old stuff. but it (rotation) has worked previously I remember, when running gnome on ubuntu |
| 17:56.04 | eshat | c3l: sorry, I have no experience with ATI's |
| 17:57.52 | c3l | ah, well thanks anyways |
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| 17:59.33 | thewanderer1 | er, why does gnome-desktop-environment depend on empathy instead of empathy | pidgin? |
| 17:59.58 | thewanderer1 | it has stuff like remmina | vinagre, so this would be logical |
| 18:00.09 | thewanderer1 | plus, empathy doesn't support even the half of Pidgin's protocols... :P |
| 18:00.40 | simonrvn | file a bug |
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| 18:01.18 | thewanderer1 | okay |
| 18:01.33 | yucatan | hello guys i have installed munin but when i access ipadres/munin i get access denied |
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| 18:02.10 | jordanm | abrotman: I missed it, someone having an install/uninstall failure for ntop? |
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| 18:05.15 | Wouterdt | yucatan: check your apache log, prob. more info there. and you should check the file permisions |
| 18:07.02 | Bushmills | yucatan: make sure there is an index.html in your munin directory |
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| 18:07.32 | humbolt | how can I define a default hdparm setting in hdparm.conf, so it will be applied to all disks? |
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| 18:07.40 | yucatan | bushmills |
| 18:07.45 | yucatan | i dont have a munin directory |
| 18:07.47 | yucatan | in /var/ww |
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| 18:08.13 | humbolt | As I understand it, I have to add a section for each and every drive in hdparm.conf. Are wildcards allowed? |
| 18:08.16 | jordanm | themill: blahdeblah: the lack of removal reason is likely because the accidently let a new version migrate and then had it pulled |
| 18:08.17 | Bushmills | yucatan: so what are you trying to access from your webbrowser, if there isn't one by that name? |
| 18:08.19 | thewanderer1 | yucatan: munin should create an Apache vhost for you in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
| 18:08.44 | jordanm | themill: blahdeblah: a migration after the testing removal I mean |
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| 18:08.54 | thewanderer1 | Bushmills: it is usually in a vhost with separate docroot, not in /var/www |
| 18:09.01 | yucatan | is hall check |
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| 18:09.31 | Bushmills | thewanderer1: he's trying to access ipaddr/munin |
| 18:09.37 | yucatan | aah ok |
| 18:09.42 | thewanderer1 | Bushmills: ah yes... right |
| 18:09.42 | Bushmills | then he needs the directory by that name |
| 18:09.54 | thewanderer1 | I was assuming there would be a redirect |
| 18:10.26 | themill | jordanm: yeah, there was no removal reason for the first one either |
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| 18:10.46 | yucatan | thewandere1 in sites-enabled i only have 000-default |
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| 18:10.57 | yucatan | in that 000-default there is nothing about munin |
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| 18:12.25 | intok | Is there a PPC build of LXSplit? |
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| 18:13.42 | yucatan | so what now? |
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| 18:15.34 | Bushmills | in your /etc/munin/munin.conf is a setting for htmldir |
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| 18:15.45 | yucatan | sec |
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| 18:15.58 | joe6 | is there a flash plugin to watch flash tv using firefox for debian? |
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| 18:16.12 | joe6 | i meant flash-based tv |
| 18:16.18 | yucatan | ./var/cache/www/munin |
| 18:16.32 | joe6 | and is it something that I can download with apt? |
| 18:16.33 | jordanm | themill: odd. #601820 if you all didn't find it |
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| 18:17.02 | themill | jordanm: yeah, that was found. There was just nothing useful in the removal hints file (normally it points to the bug) |
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| 18:18.01 | yucatan | i have html files in that dir |
| 18:18.06 | yucatan | i chmod it to 755 |
| 18:18.09 | yucatan | is that right |
| 18:18.10 | yucatan | ? |
| 18:18.37 | Bushmills | why did you change that htmldir? set it back to debian default then |
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| 18:18.44 | yucatan | i didnt... |
| 18:18.53 | Bushmills | what distribution is that? |
| 18:18.59 | yucatan | debian 6. |
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| 18:19.02 | thewanderer1 | joe6: minitube for YouTube, forcing all providers to migrate to HTML5 for everything else |
| 18:19.11 | Bushmills | defaults to /var/www/munin |
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| 18:19.22 | yucatan | k i chsll change |
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| 18:19.33 | yucatan | but /var/www/munin dont exsist |
| 18:19.39 | BLZbubba | how does debian auto-detect the http_proxy environment variable? |
| 18:19.40 | yucatan | and in this map i have .html files... |
| 18:19.45 | Bushmills | no. fix your installation - if there's such a strange default in there, there must be something wrong |
| 18:19.45 | yucatan | ur sure that its not default? |
| 18:19.56 | BLZbubba | it redirects my command line utilities, which is quite annoying |
| 18:20.00 | yucatan | ok |
| 18:20.19 | BLZbubba | but i don't see a setting anywhere in /etc or /home |
| 18:20.26 | yucatan | so i should change that? |
| 18:20.32 | yucatan | can i not just fully remove it |
| 18:20.35 | yucatan | and reinstall |
| 18:20.44 | yucatan | that it recreates everything |
| 18:20.51 | jordanm | ,versions munin |
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| 18:20.53 | judd | Package munin on i386 -- lenny: 1.2.6-10~lenny2; lenny-backports: 1.4.5-3~bpo50+1; sid: 1.4.5-3; squeeze: 1.4.5-3; wheezy: 1.4.5-3 |
| 18:21.00 | jordanm | yucatan: how did you install it? |
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| 18:21.52 | kfogel | Whoa, just did a dist-upgrade (in 'testing') and now the command 'ooffice' is gone! I use that every day. Any idea what happened to openoffice.org in Debian? |
| 18:22.04 | thewanderer1 | kfogel: hmm... Libre Office? |
| 18:22.31 | kfogel | thewanderer1: I tried completing "libre..." and "loff..." but nothing was there. |
| 18:22.40 | thewanderer1 | so dpkg -L openoffice |
| 18:22.58 | thewanderer1 | also note that testing is equivalent to Sid from a week ago |
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| 18:23.45 | kfogel | thewanderer1: "Package `openoffice' is not installed." I don't know why it disappeared, but I'm going to aptitude install libreoffice now then. |
| 18:23.47 | kfogel | thewanderer1: thanks |
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| 18:24.04 | yucatan | apt-get install munin |
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| 18:25.09 | kfogel | yucatan: (was that for me or someone else?) |
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| 18:26.10 | yucatan | no(A) |
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| 18:26.30 | yucatan | was for jordanm |
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| 18:28.14 | fossala | what is the file that logs ban ssh logins? |
| 18:28.44 | petemc | fossala: depends on what does the banning |
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| 18:29.12 | fossala | sorry bad** |
| 18:29.26 | petemc | oh, bad, auth.log |
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| 18:29.49 | fossala | petemc:thanks. |
| 18:29.54 | petemc | np |
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| 18:30.19 | jeward | Where all do I have to set it so my monitor never goes to sleep (for a kiosk)? |
| 18:30.21 | yucatan | i still get a 403 error |
| 18:31.04 | jeward | I must be missing something because the monitor still shuts off. |
| 18:31.16 | Marotte | jeward, I guess this is in the power settings |
| 18:31.24 | intok | Is there a PPC build of LXSplit? |
| 18:31.35 | Marotte | but maybe some setting in the BIOS ? |
| 18:32.16 | jeward | Marcotte, it was working fine under lenny, so I think the BIOS is set properly. Still goes to sleep with squeeze. |
| 18:32.16 | ariel_ | Hello, I have a question which I am having a hard time with google and most man commands with. I am trying to send an email mess from a script. like echo "test" |mail -s "test" youremail@yourdomain.com Issue is it gets rejected due to it's being sent from root@blah I need to change the from |
| 18:32.21 | Marotte | jeward, gnome ? |
| 18:32.43 | yucatan | somebody? |
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| 18:32.57 | Marotte | yuastnav, 403 on what ? |
| 18:33.08 | jeward | Marotte, stock squeeze gnome interface. |
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| 18:33.39 | yucatan | munin |
| 18:33.43 | yucatan | i have installed munin |
| 18:33.44 | jordanm | ariel_: you can't do that with "mail". you will need to use another language |
| 18:33.47 | yucatan | when i try to access it |
| 18:33.50 | yucatan | i get a 403 error |
| 18:33.59 | Marotte | jeward, ok... did you check the power settings ? |
| 18:34.09 | petemc | ariel_: mail -a "From: foo@bar" -s hello recipient@address |
| 18:34.17 | jeward | Marotte, Computer and monitor are both set to sleep: never. |
| 18:34.23 | jordanm | ariel_: or you may be able to pre-format a file with proper email headers and use sendmail -t -i < $file |
| 18:34.32 | petemc | ariel_: you can also have your mta rewrite the from address for root |
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| 18:34.50 | Marotte | jeward, check bios and, internal settings of the monitor |
| 18:34.58 | ariel_ | ok, t/y how to I get the MTA to re-write the from address? |
| 18:35.08 | jordanm | petemc: "additional" header will replace the existing From:? |
| 18:35.11 | petemc | for exim /etc/email-addresses |
| 18:35.23 | jeward | Marotte, Oh hmm, I never thought of the monitor having it's own sleep settings, thanks! |
| 18:36.05 | petemc | jordanm: that has worked for me in the past |
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| 18:36.32 | jordanm | ariel_: I may stand corrected, give it a try |
| 18:37.29 | ariel_ | echo "test"|mail -a "From:voice@mtnsat.com" -s hello ariel.batista@mtnsat.com this line still send email from root@OCA |
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| 18:37.58 | petemc | i guess you need to rewrite then |
| 18:38.06 | jordanm | ariel_: then try preformating a file with valid headers. sendmail -t -i |
| 18:38.09 | thewanderer1 | ariel_: header != recipient address |
| 18:38.14 | thewanderer1 | err sender address |
| 18:38.26 | jordanm | thewanderer1: yes, its the From: field of the email header |
| 18:38.27 | thewanderer1 | From header and the envelope sender are 2 separate things |
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| 18:39.02 | ariel_ | this is so confusing |
| 18:39.27 | thewanderer1 | ariel_: are you sending via SMTP? |
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| 18:39.37 | petemc | thewanderer1: clearly not |
| 18:39.41 | petemc | mail uses sendmail |
| 18:39.54 | jeward | Restart from the gnom logout menu no loner restarts the system? |
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| 18:41.08 | thewanderer1 | thought mail could use any MTA |
| 18:41.14 | intok | Is there a PPC build of LXSplit? |
| 18:41.19 | thewanderer1 | for example one that pushes via SMTP |
| 18:41.19 | petemc | any that provides a sendmail interface |
| 18:41.33 | jeward | shutdown -r no loner reboots the system in squeeze!? |
| 18:41.38 | jeward | longer |
| 18:41.50 | thewanderer1 | jeward: it does... something must be broken at your install |
| 18:42.00 | petemc | thewanderer1: mail submits the message using sendmail tho, what happens after is irrelevant |
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| 18:42.23 | jeward | thewanderer1, fresh install of squeeze from the live CD. |
| 18:42.41 | petemc | ariel_: are you using exim? |
| 18:43.07 | jeward | thewanderer1: what do I need to check? Or should I try installing again? |
| 18:43.08 | thewanderer1 | ariel_: "send email from root@OCA" means you see root@OCA in From: header, or as the Envelope-Sender? |
| 18:43.27 | thewanderer1 | jeward: first, tell us *what* it does |
| 18:43.41 | jeward | thewanderer1: Restarts X11. |
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| 18:44.26 | jeward | thewanderer1: Let me run it from the console and see if I can capture more information. |
| 18:44.54 | thewanderer1 | jeward: specifically, look for kernel messages like the ones on boot |
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| 18:48.09 | jeward | thewanderer1: I tried: "shutdown -r now 2>&1|tee t", but the file is empty. |
| 18:48.26 | thewanderer1 | jeward: it signals init, so no wonder |
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| 18:48.28 | jeward | thewanderer1: Any other way I can look at the console output? |
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| 18:48.44 | thewanderer1 | you have to look at the console... like hook up to the log, or watch netconsole output |
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| 18:48.53 | thewanderer1 | just switch to tty1 or sth |
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| 18:49.22 | jeward | thewanderer1: syslog? |
| 18:49.43 | jeward | thewanderer1: I'm on tty1. |
| 18:50.02 | thewanderer1 | ok |
| 18:50.13 | thewanderer1 | so shutdown should show you something on the console |
| 18:50.21 | thewanderer1 | say, you're not running a splash screen are you? |
| 18:50.29 | thewanderer1 | it obfuscates the view... |
| 18:50.38 | jeward | I've not noticed any splash screen. |
| 18:50.51 | jeward | It just scrolls by so fast and clears the screen a couple of times. |
| 18:51.21 | justin | the shutdown command doesnt log anything |
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| 18:51.26 | justin | it just signals init |
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| 18:51.48 | thewanderer1 | init scripts, on the other hand, should log sth |
| 18:52.09 | thewanderer1 | look for new entries in daemon.log for example, if you run any daemons... |
| 18:52.11 | justin | yes, but if you can't pipe shutdown to a file expecting it to log anything |
| 18:52.12 | thewanderer1 | or kernel.log |
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| 18:52.32 | jeward | The system considers itself rebooted. |
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| 18:52.44 | thewanderer1 | so you're running kexec |
| 18:52.51 | thewanderer1 | jeward: dpkg --list kexec-tools |
| 18:52.57 | thewanderer1 | does it show it as installed? |
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| 18:52.58 | jeward | I guess I'm confused because I never see the Dell splash or get the opportunity to go into setup. |
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| 18:53.41 | jeward | status ii, means installed I assume? |
| 18:53.45 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 18:54.14 | jeward | kexec shortens the reboot time or something? |
| 18:54.17 | thewanderer1 | so you're running kexec and you don't need to go through a power cycle to reboot the kernel... it just reboots itself |
| 18:54.31 | jeward | I'm used to seeing the Dell Optimus screen or whatever when rebooting. |
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| 18:54.41 | thewanderer1 | jeward: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kexec.html |
| 18:54.55 | thewanderer1 | jeward: disable it by editing some file in /etc/default called similar to kexec |
| 18:55.12 | jeward | Huh. |
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| 18:55.44 | thewanderer1 | you can remove kexec-tools if you don't need it anyway... |
| 18:55.59 | valdyn | jeward: you can shut down instead of restart, then you will see the bios screens when powering up |
| 18:56.58 | jeward | Will this get installed on lenny->squeeze upgrades? |
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| 18:57.16 | valdyn | jeward: i dont think it gets installed at all, unless you explicitely install it |
| 18:57.22 | jeward | I'm not sure we'll want this on our 200+ webservers. |
| 18:57.30 | jeward | I did not explicitly install it. |
| 18:57.45 | jeward | This is a fresh installed from the squeeze live CD. |
| 18:57.49 | valdyn | jeward: and its not setup by default iirc |
| 18:57.52 | jeward | Default everything. |
| 18:58.04 | Arrowmaster | try not using the live CD |
| 18:58.06 | valdyn | jeward: im not sure thats an official install method at all |
| 18:58.06 | thewanderer1 | is not default with Squeeze netinst |
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| 18:58.36 | jeward | Double clicking the "Install Debian" on the live CD desktop is not supported? |
| 18:58.59 | valdyn | jeward: im believe its not even supported on all debian architectures so it cannot be part of the default install |
| 18:59.07 | jeward | Gotcha. |
| 18:59.10 | thewanderer1 | jeward: debian.net is the domain for unofficial Debian projects - you did take the Live CD from live.debian.net didn't you? :) |
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| 18:59.14 | jeward | I'll reinstall from a netinst. |
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| 18:59.27 | thewanderer1 | debian.org is for official |
| 18:59.36 | jeward | I got the live CD from the same site I got the netinst CD I thought. |
| 18:59.38 | Arrowmaster | also why would you use a live CD for installing to servers |
| 18:59.42 | JyZyXEL | is there a way to not get spam about cron on syslog? |
| 18:59.50 | jeward | But it's been a few days. |
| 18:59.51 | valdyn | jeward: im pretty sure you dont want it for webservers just like that anyway |
| 19:00.04 | thewanderer1 | JyZyXEL: configure rsyslogd to drop cron logs |
| 19:00.11 | valdyn | jeward: it does not automatigally fit in right now, you get to update the config manually each time you get a new kernel for example |
| 19:00.16 | thewanderer1 | JyZyXEL: rsyslog homepage has loads of documentation |
| 19:00.25 | jeward | valdyn: Yeah, this is a calendar kiosk getting an early test squeeze upgrade. |
| 19:00.29 | JyZyXEL | rsyslog? |
| 19:00.50 | JyZyXEL | thewanderer1: i don't even have that installed |
| 19:00.52 | KindOne | I have a clean Debian 6 install, I have Software Center opened trying to remove "Bluetooth" - I click the remove button, and nothing is happening. - Any ideas? |
| 19:00.54 | thewanderer1 | JyZyXEL: well, unless you're running some other syslog daemon... |
| 19:01.14 | JyZyXEL | whats the default? |
| 19:01.14 | jeward | valdyn: the upgrade didn't go well (my fault), so it got a fresh install. |
| 19:01.14 | thewanderer1 | JyZyXEL: rsyslogd now |
| 19:01.16 | JyZyXEL | but on lenny? |
| 19:01.28 | thewanderer1 | still rsyslogd |
| 19:01.44 | JyZyXEL | it can't be the default cause its not installed even |
| 19:01.47 | thewanderer1 | (at least that's what debootstrap tells me) |
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| 19:02.05 | thewanderer1 | well, it might be time to install it :P |
| 19:02.07 | JyZyXEL | i just remembered i upgraded to squeeze |
| 19:02.18 | JyZyXEL | so it should be installed if its the default |
| 19:02.21 | valdyn | jeward: an upgrade does not set your system to new defaults |
| 19:02.23 | JyZyXEL | yet its not installed |
| 19:02.27 | valdyn | jeward: no, not at all |
| 19:02.49 | valdyn | jeward: that totally defeats the purpose of upgrading |
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| 19:02.59 | Arrowmaster | KindOne: trying to remove bluetooth stuff will likely remove all of gnome (if you are using gnome) |
| 19:03.03 | jeward | valdyn: I didn't say it did, all I said was I installed by the live CD desktop icon. |
| 19:03.09 | thewanderer1 | JyZyXEL: yes, perhaps you did some manual tweaking or removed rsyslogd because of 30MB VSZ usage? :P |
| 19:03.13 | valdyn | jeward: sorry, wrong target |
| 19:03.25 | JyZyXEL | thewanderer1: no |
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| 19:03.33 | jeward | valdyn: ;-) |
| 19:03.38 | thewanderer1 | JyZyXEL: was upgrading from Etch perhaps? :P |
| 19:03.40 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: what i said to jeward |
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| 19:03.50 | JyZyXEL | well i have syslog.conf |
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| 19:03.59 | JyZyXEL | yes i think the system was etch originally |
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| 19:04.00 | kanzure | if i was to recompile gdb on my debian box, is there any debian-specific-config-options i should be sure to pass? |
| 19:04.01 | jeward | Wow, CTRL-ALT-DELETE doesn't even reboot enough to start from CD. I think I don't like kexec. |
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| 19:04.21 | JyZyXEL | should i install rsyslog then? |
| 19:04.29 | intok | Is there a PPC build of LXSplit? |
| 19:04.30 | JyZyXEL | !rsyslog |
| 19:04.30 | dpkg | rsyslog is an enhanced <syslog> daemon. With stock logging rules, it can be used as a drop-in sysklogd replacement. rsyslog is the default kernel/system log daemon in Lenny, but is not installed when upgrading from Etch (ref. section 2.2 of the <lenny release notes>). http://wiki.debian.org/Rsyslog http://www.rsyslog.com/ #rsyslog on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 19:04.50 | JyZyXEL | thats a yes |
| 19:04.51 | justin | jeward: try man coldreboot |
| 19:05.20 | thewanderer1 | kanzure: download the package source and work on that, not vanilla source |
| 19:05.30 | deego | I realize that after following the release notes and dist-upgrading, I still needed to manually purge these packages: |
| 19:05.32 | deego | apt-show-versions | grep -v "squeeze uptodate" | grep -i "no available" | awk '{print $1}' | grep -v "linux-image" | fmt |
| 19:05.34 | kanzure | thewanderer1: good point |
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| 19:08.38 | jeward | justin: No manual entry for coldreboot |
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| 19:10.10 | thewanderer1 | jeward: is in kexec-tools, you probably removed it :P |
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| 19:10.41 | jeward | thewanderer1: I'm reinstalling from the netinst disk to get the Live CD install method out of the question. |
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| 19:11.07 | jeward | My other squeeze box doesn't have kexec installed. |
| 19:11.22 | jeward | So maybe it only gets installed from the Live CD method. |
| 19:12.29 | Arrowmaster | jeward: if you really are going to be installing 200+ servers, the normal CD1/DVD1 should behave like the netinstall, just without as much downloading every time if you dont have a local mirror/cache |
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| 19:14.32 | thewanderer1 | well if he has 200 servers it's simpler to set up one of them as the cache, no? :P |
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| 19:14.38 | jeward | Arrowmaster: We'll be upgrading from lenny to squeeze one at a time, like we did from etch before. |
| 19:14.46 | thewanderer1 | network is many times faster than optical drives anyway |
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| 19:15.06 | jeward | We maintain a local debian mirror as well. |
| 19:16.47 | jeward | I'm upgrading (or rebuilding in this case) the kiosks first to give me a heads up on problems I might run into upgrading the webservers. |
| 19:17.05 | jeward | I botched the upgrade on this particular kiosk. |
| 19:17.16 | jeward | It broke in the middle and I didn't notice. |
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| 19:26.17 | ttyS1 | when trying to ssh to a server I get a Segmentation fault. This doesn't happen if I ssh using the root account |
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| 19:27.17 | justin | ttyS1: are your configuration or keys in ~/.ssh corrupted? |
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| 19:27.58 | ttyS1 | justin: don't think so. I can try removing them |
| 19:28.15 | kanzure | what do i do if i don't already have a symbol table for gdb? |
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| 19:29.52 | intok | Is there a PPC build of LXSplit? |
| 19:30.37 | valdyn | kanzure: then you are fucked |
| 19:30.50 | valdyn | kanzure: unless you have the source code |
| 19:31.11 | oiooi | hello everyone, i am a newby and i could use some help. I 've installed the proper nvidia driver and then purged the default of debian (6). For some reason my xorg.info is an empty file and google-earth gives me a "Xlib GLX not found" or something like that error. Can u please help me? |
| 19:31.15 | kanzure | valdyn: i see. |
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| 19:31.30 | kanzure | valdyn: i'm trying to edit random values of random memory addresses |
| 19:31.56 | valdyn | kanzure: so? |
| 19:32.01 | kanzure | still fucked? |
| 19:32.13 | kanzure | i don't use gdb often (in case it's not obvious0 |
| 19:32.15 | kanzure | ) |
| 19:32.25 | valdyn | kanzure: im sure you can edit random values of random memory even without gdb and without symbols |
| 19:32.59 | valdyn | kanzure: tell us what youre trying to do, not how youre trying to do it |
| 19:33.16 | kanzure | i'm upset that nobody has made an actual gameshark for nintendo ds |
| 19:33.28 | kanzure | so i'm setting up a debugger with an emulator (like desmume) |
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| 19:33.40 | valdyn | oiooi: thats the wrong order to do this, install the nvidia drivers *after* purging the debian packages |
| 19:34.27 | oiooi | valdyn: what can i do now? |
| 19:34.39 | valdyn | oiooi: install the nvidia drivers again |
| 19:35.02 | valdyn | oiooi: let the nvidia installer set up the xorg.conf for you |
| 19:35.03 | oiooi | valdyn: thank u |
| 19:35.24 | oiooi | valdyn: will do, thanX a lot |
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| 19:38.16 | _Sam-- | the i386 netinst cd is fine for this cpu? Intel Core i7 960 3.20GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 Quad-Core Processor |
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| 19:39.07 | thewanderer1 | _Sam--: get amd64... i386 is for 32-bit CPUs |
| 19:39.29 | _Sam-- | tx. |
| 19:39.35 | thewanderer1 | i386 will work, yes, but will not offer benefits of amd64 architecture |
| 19:39.43 | Wipped | i made a server with munin but it doesn't create a folder in var/www. what is wrong? |
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| 19:40.08 | ttyS1 | justin: I removed the know_hosts on the client machine. I tried to ssh again to the server the new key was added but after I enter the password I get the same Segmentation Fault. this doesn't happen if I ssh as root |
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| 19:48.20 | Wipped | i installed munin on my debian server and it doesnt creat the folder in var/www where all the status pictures are.. what is wrong? |
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| 19:48.29 | SuperMiguel | so my system crashed, i rebooted it and i get this: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7N2va62uxqQxwruEz-aQPthVHOxBhLeXm8Y5pWm_ufY?feat=directlink any idea? |
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| 19:53.00 | Wipped | i installed munin on my debian server and it doesnt creat the folder in var/www where all the status pictures are.. what is wrong? |
| 19:53.17 | SuperMiguel | any one know what this is? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7N2va62uxqQxwruEz-aQPthVHOxBhLeXm8Y5pWm_ufY?feat=directlink system crashed and now getting this ? |
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| 19:53.30 | intok | Is there a PPC build of LXSplit? |
| 19:53.33 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: why are you asking in this channel |
| 19:53.36 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: you've just said it was an ubuntu issue and asked in #ubuntu |
| 19:53.42 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: I've just told you in #ubuntu it's a kernel panic, why are you now asking in #debian |
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| 19:53.52 | SuperMiguel | cuz its a debian system :) |
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| 19:54.33 | SuperMiguel | ikonia, so what should i do? |
| 19:54.34 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: then you shouldn't be so rude as to ask in other channels that are offtopic |
| 19:54.57 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: you should learn how to ask in the right channel and not annoy people by spamming other channels with your help requests when you are not even using that product |
| 19:55.02 | ikonia | that would be point one |
| 19:55.05 | Wipped | is there any munin channel? |
| 19:55.54 | defunkt | Wipped, possibly... whats the issue with munin? |
| 19:55.54 | SuperMiguel | Wipped, yup #munin |
| 19:55.55 | Wipped | i installed munin on my debian server and it doesnt creat the folder in var/www where all the status pictures are.. what is wrong? |
| 19:56.08 | SuperMiguel | ikonia, is there a way to find out what caused it? |
| 19:56.14 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: not interested, you've wasted my time |
| 19:56.17 | defunkt | in the newest version they moved the location of where the munin www files are |
| 19:56.28 | defunkt | hang on its /var/lib/munin or something |
| 19:56.29 | Wipped | where are they now? |
| 19:56.31 | defunkt | let me check |
| 19:56.32 | Wipped | ow oke |
| 19:56.40 | Wipped | can i move this to var/www? |
| 19:56.41 | SuperMiguel | ikonia, then fuck off :) |
| 19:56.52 | SuperMiguel | any one know what this is? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7N2va62uxqQxwruEz-aQPthVHOxBhLeXm8Y5pWm_ufY?feat=directlink system crashed and now getting this ? |
| 19:57.03 | defunkt | you can edit the munin.conf to cahnge the lcoation of the www files and then make sure perms are correct |
| 19:57.05 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: control your language towards me, and stop spamming the same link |
| 19:57.09 | defunkt | or you can just create a link |
| 19:57.15 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: I've told you it's a kernel panic 3 times now, so you know what it is |
| 19:57.19 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: so stop asking what it is |
| 19:57.20 | Wipped | ill try defunkt |
| 19:57.27 | SuperMiguel | ikonia, true |
| 19:57.28 | defunkt | creating a link is easier Wipped |
| 19:57.36 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: start listening to the people instead of just spamming the same link in multiple channels like an idiot |
| 19:57.47 | ikonia | then abusing the someone as you can't be bothered to listen |
| 19:58.02 | Wipped | k ty ill try |
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| 19:59.53 | defunkt | Wipped, just: cat /etc/munin.munin.conf | grep htmldir |
| 20:00.00 | defunkt | that will tell you where the files are now... |
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| 20:00.21 | Wipped | already did.. how can i restart munin/ |
| 20:00.26 | defunkt | and then just create a link from /var/www/munin to that directory... munin is picky about permissions so imho thats the est way |
| 20:00.29 | defunkt | no need to |
| 20:00.37 | defunkt | it only runs once every 5 min |
| 20:00.41 | defunkt | its a cronjob |
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| 20:00.53 | Wipped | alright thanks |
| 20:00.56 | defunkt | np |
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| 20:01.27 | ScottG | My keyboard has a problem in X where a key will fail to type fairly often. Also, if I press two keys quickly simultaneously the second key will "stick" as if I am holding it down even if I am not. Neither of these problems occur in a tty. |
| 20:01.51 | Wipped | another question at my second server with munin i get this: http://84.27.55.62/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain-if_eth0-day.png |
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| 20:02.02 | Wipped | see the 110 mb how is that possible |
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| 20:02.43 | Wipped | how gets it sow high? |
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| 20:03.46 | SuperMiguel | so im getting this kernel panic https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7N2va62uxqQxwruEz-aQPthVHOxBhLeXm8Y5pWm_ufY?feat=directlink is there a way to find the reasonor the fix? |
| 20:04.07 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: that image tells you nothing |
| 20:04.40 | SuperMiguel | ikonia, what can i do to find more info? |
| 20:04.57 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: try not telling people to "fuck off" |
| 20:06.14 | SuperMiguel | alot more people on #ubuntu, and on this kind of issue the distro shouldnt make a diff |
| 20:06.24 | SuperMiguel | ikonia, wrong tell |
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| 20:06.43 | defunkt | Wipped, munin pulls those information from your kernal (i believe) |
| 20:06.56 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: distro does make a difference |
| 20:07.10 | defunkt | looks at that script |
| 20:07.11 | pipeline | Does the Squeeze installer include virtio drivers ? |
| 20:07.19 | Wipped | can i veriefy that somewhere? |
| 20:07.35 | defunkt | im checking to see how munin is pulling that |
| 20:07.45 | Wipped | thanks |
| 20:07.47 | defunkt | vnstat is a very usefull and lightweight tool you can use to verify traffic |
| 20:08.08 | Wipped | is it like munin? |
| 20:08.22 | SuperMiguel | ikonia, so the only fix is to reload debian? |
| 20:08.26 | defunkt | no... its all text based and run in the terminal as a realtime program |
| 20:08.45 | Wipped | then i stick to munin |
| 20:08.58 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: nope, depends on the issue |
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| 20:09.16 | SuperMiguel | ikonia, hehe, and how do i find the issue please? |
| 20:09.17 | defunkt | oh i agree with that... im jsut saying to see accuracy between two programs... vnstat is another "live traffic" tool |
| 20:09.34 | ikonia | SuperMiguel: you don't tell people to fuck off or waste their time in other channels, that's how you get help as I told you before |
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| 20:09.41 | Wipped | k |
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| 20:10.07 | SuperMiguel | ikonia, thanks bro :) |
| 20:10.07 | abrotman | SuperMiguel: i'd guess it's more likely a hardware issue than an OS issue |
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| 20:10.20 | Wipped | it still didnt make the coorrect directory in var/www |
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| 20:11.01 | defunkt | wipped... munin will not create directories... |
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| 20:11.20 | defunkt | if you changed the directory in the munin.conf... you will need to make sure the directory exists |
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| 20:11.31 | SuperMiguel | abrotman, is there some kind of distro that has a full hardware diagnostic tools? |
| 20:11.33 | Amnesia | why isnt tcptrack in the squeeze repos? |
| 20:11.35 | Wipped | so if i put the map munin from a other server to this server it should work |
| 20:11.42 | Amnesia | it is in the lenny/sid repos |
| 20:12.04 | abrotman | SuperMiguel: nevermind, i read the backlog .. i have no interest in helping ubuntu users in this channel |
| 20:12.07 | defunkt | if you allow that IP from the munin client on the server, yes |
| 20:12.18 | abrotman | Amnesia: there is no such thing as lenny/sid |
| 20:12.27 | Wipped | k |
| 20:12.29 | Amnesia | lenny and sid * |
| 20:12.33 | ikonia | abrotman: he's not an ubuntu user, he is debian asking in ubuntu, but same slimy trick |
| 20:12.34 | Amnesia | that was what I meant:);) |
| 20:12.39 | SuperMiguel | abrotman, im using debian :S i just asked in ubuntu since more people were there |
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| 20:12.46 | defunkt | Wipped, brb |
| 20:12.48 | abrotman | SuperMiguel: too late, i don't trust you anymore |
| 20:12.54 | Amnesia | but ehm I need some curses based network monitoring app |
| 20:12.56 | SuperMiguel | abrotman, hehe |
| 20:12.59 | Wipped | k |
| 20:13.00 | abrotman | not funny |
| 20:13.07 | abrotman | Amnesia: for what kind of monitoring? |
| 20:13.24 | Amnesia | see how many kbps a connection is per second |
| 20:13.38 | abrotman | Amnesia: at a given moment? jnettop? iftop ? |
| 20:13.47 | Amnesia | iftop doesnt state the speed per sec |
| 20:14.08 | abrotman | jnettop does |
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| 20:14.28 | Amnesia | hm yeah |
| 20:14.28 | Amnesia | thx |
| 20:15.00 | xyan | is it possible to debootstrap a 64bit install ontop of an existing 32bit install without rendering booth installations useless? |
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| 20:15.39 | Amnesia | abrotman: ++ |
| 20:15.46 | defunkt | Wipped, in /etc/munin/munin-node.conf there is a entry naer the bottom that is something like ^127/.0/.0/.1^ or something |
| 20:15.59 | abrotman | Amnesia: dpkg: abrotman++ |
| 20:16.01 | defunkt | you need to add the ip of the munin server as well |
| 20:16.01 | Wipped | what to do with it? |
| 20:16.11 | Wipped | ehm |
| 20:16.15 | Wipped | how do you mean |
| 20:16.29 | Wipped | i just dloaded the map from other server and upd it on this server |
| 20:16.39 | defunkt | map? |
| 20:16.48 | Wipped | srry folder |
| 20:16.50 | Wipped | im dutch |
| 20:17.32 | Amnesia | I must write something here... :) |
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| 20:17.37 | defunkt | thats typically not good... as userid's change from system to system... you could have permission problems... assuming you dont... |
| 20:17.38 | Amnesia | that's gay:P |
| 20:17.38 | eptalon | heyas |
| 20:17.41 | Amnesia | Wipped: kutkaaskop:P |
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| 20:17.56 | defunkt | 127.0.0.1 = localhost which = this computer |
| 20:18.38 | Wipped | it is this computer |
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| 20:18.50 | Wipped | Amnesia: moette hier kome zegge dan jonguh |
| 20:18.51 | defunkt | alright.. and your running munin and munin node on each pc? |
| 20:18.59 | defunkt | or server* |
| 20:19.01 | Amnesia | haha |
| 20:19.12 | thewanderer1 | xyan: rather not, I'd say |
| 20:19.30 | ScottG | My keyboard has a problem in X where a key will fail to type fairly often. Also, if I press two keys quickly simultaneously the second key will "stick" as if I am holding it down even if I am not (until i press another key). Neither of these problems occur in a tty. |
| 20:19.41 | Wipped | on one only munin on this one both |
| 20:19.50 | defunkt | ok |
| 20:19.56 | ksx4system | how do I change OpenSSH from repository to compiled by hand one? i just compile it the same way as on OpenBSD (but using source code suited for Linux)? |
| 20:20.10 | defunkt | so your running munin-node on both... and munin (the web interface) on just one |
| 20:20.19 | defunkt | correct? |
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| 20:20.20 | eptalon | I was looking for recommendations on software that can help me organise my media (music) collection. |
| 20:20.23 | Wipped | no vise versa |
| 20:20.48 | defunkt | you cant run just the web interface... it needs to conenct to the munin-node |
| 20:20.50 | Wipped | on both munin on one munin node |
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| 20:22.43 | Wipped | hm 1 sec im not sure what im saying now |
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| 20:22.44 | Wipped | ow i got both on both |
| 20:22.44 | defunkt | ok |
| 20:22.44 | defunkt | and each is just monitoring itself correct? |
| 20:22.47 | Wipped | how do you mean/ |
| 20:23.20 | defunkt | the web interface can monitor multiple computers... so you ahve one interface for 10+ computers... etc... if you want |
| 20:23.31 | defunkt | im jsut making sure i understand your setup |
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| 20:24.03 | justin_ | ksx4system: why are you compiling ssh? |
| 20:24.08 | Wipped | 3 servers on 3 different networks or what do you mean? |
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| 20:24.28 | justin_ | Wipped: install munin-node on ALL your systems. install munin on ONE of your systems. done;. |
| 20:24.34 | macrobat | eptalon: kid3-qt for tagging. abcde for ripping. mpd/ncmpcpp for listening. |
| 20:25.07 | defunkt | justin_, sounds liek he did... a bit of a language barrier |
| 20:25.08 | Wipped | i just got my machine here i installed munin and munin-node thats it |
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| 20:25.39 | Wipped | this server and my other servers got nothing to do with each other |
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| 20:25.45 | ksx4system | justin_: just because of security reasons. i always compile latest OpenSSH on my OpenBSD machines and i want to do the same on Debian powered ones. |
| 20:26.17 | eptalon | macrobat: all packaged, all able to hadle the senary "same song, as ogg, flac, mp3"? |
| 20:26.31 | justin_ | ksx4system: don't do that. |
| 20:26.56 | macrobat | eptalon: you mean finding duplicates? |
| 20:27.23 | thewanderer1 | ksx4system: just because of security reasons, Debian Stable manages security updates for you as soon as possible - you only need to apt-get upgrade |
| 20:27.42 | eptalon | macrobat: I mean I have a song, three times, once as ogg, once as mp3, and once as flac. I don't want the song in the playlist three times... |
| 20:28.06 | eptalon | macrobat: plus I have "a few" songs. |
| 20:29.18 | eptalon | macrobat: I am asking because "amarok" can't handle it, and takes ages to start too |
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| 20:29.56 | lwithers | ksx4system: I haven't tried it (and I'm not about to), but it should be safe to uninstall openssh-client and openssh-server . Then you can install your own openssh build. |
| 20:30.33 | lwithers | ksx4system: you'll have to deal with integrating it into the system though. I recommend you install it under /usr/local (and possibly you can use GNU stow to manage that), and you'll probably have to write your own init script (or keep a copy of Debian's). |
| 20:30.41 | defunkt | Wipped, do: cat /etc/munin/munin.conf | grep htmldir and pm it to me... |
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| 20:30.56 | botmind | Hi. Im having Audigy SB160 audio card.. there are 3 outs, but I can't seem to be able to get the sound from the #3 one.. which is subwoofer.. is this a hardware failure? |
| 20:30.57 | eptalon | macrobat: "playlists" based on style would also be a nice fearture... |
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| 20:32.05 | thewanderer1 | botmind back to → ##hardware |
| 20:33.13 | botmind | thewanderer1: well.. maybe it's debain issue! maybe it does not support 5.1 or something |
| 20:33.17 | macrobat | eptalon: idk, i guess someone have solved this already. can't amarok select songs based on tags? |
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| 20:33.49 | eptalon | macrobat: I haven't looked in detail, but amarok is large, slow and ugly, for what I need. |
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| 20:34.31 | thewanderer1 | eptalon: if you want to deduplicate songs, use mpd, mpc, grep, uniq, sed and cut and you should be fine |
| 20:34.48 | macrobat | mpd + a client, then? can be a bit of a hassle to setup |
| 20:35.08 | thewanderer1 | not at all |
| 20:37.01 | macrobat | took me ages :D |
| 20:37.17 | eptalon | thewanderer1: my problem is: currently I have several thousand files to classify, possibly in double, or triple; possibly worngly tagged, or not tagged at all |
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| 20:38.03 | thewanderer1 | tagged referring to what? |
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| 20:39.15 | eptalon | thewanderer1: you can't rely on tags being in the mp3/ogg/flac file. |
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| 20:39.57 | thewanderer1 | yeah |
| 20:40.21 | thewanderer1 | I'd set off to write an app for that, preferably using SQLite or MySQL, to get the job done... |
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| 20:41.36 | Amnesia | why are there packages that are in lenny and sid but not in squeeze:/? |
| 20:41.39 | eptalon | thewanderer1: the job of tagging? |
| 20:41.47 | Amnesia | (ntop, tcptrack) |
| 20:42.20 | thewanderer1 | eptalon: yes, anything it takes |
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| 20:43.21 | Amnesia | thewanderer1: any idea:)? |
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| 20:43.47 | thewanderer1 | Amnesia: because they were removed for various reasons before the release, like security holes or so |
| 20:43.51 | thewanderer1 | !why not ntop |
| 20:43.59 | thewanderer1 | err how was it called... |
| 20:44.09 | Amnesia | bumme |
| 20:44.10 | Amnesia | r |
| 20:44.21 | b_jonas | Hello. |
| 20:44.36 | Amnesia | so the only alternative is to install it from the sid or lenny repos or compile it from source |
| 20:44.56 | b_jonas | I'm upgrading to squeeze and have got this error when installing the package python2.6-minimal: http://dpaste.com/416724/ |
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| 20:45.15 | b_jonas | do you have any idea what this could be? |
| 20:45.37 | b_jonas | I have a custom python2 installed in /usr/local, maybe it accidentally tried to use that or something |
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| 20:47.30 | b_jonas | I think I'll temporarily remove that python from the path and see if that helps, unless you have a better idea |
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| 20:48.52 | b_jonas | yep, that was it |
| 20:48.53 | b_jonas | sorry for the bother |
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| 20:50.06 | peterrooney | !ntop |
| 20:50.07 | dpkg | ntop is a web-based passive network monitoring application. Read /usr/share/doc/ntop/README.Debian after installation to set an administration password; additional command-line options (e.g. -M) can be specified within GETOPT in /etc/default/ntop. Post-install, run "dpkg-reconfigure ntop" to specify interfaces ntop should listen on. Not part of Squeeze due to Debian bug #601820. http://wiki.ntop.org/ http://www.ntop.org/ |
| 20:51.30 | debiantonio | eptalon, if exists many tracks i recommend TuneUp Companion but has mac/windows :( |
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| 20:53.22 | Iridos | Amnesia, there will be a version of ntop in backports |
| 20:53.28 | Iridos | judd, versions ntop |
| 20:53.30 | judd | Package ntop on i386 -- lenny: 3:3.3-11+b2; sid: 3:4.0.3+dfsg1-2; wheezy: 3:4.0.3+dfsg1-2 |
| 20:53.49 | Amnesia | Iridos: in the future? |
| 20:53.54 | Iridos | not yet, though |
| 20:54.06 | Amnesia | guess I'll grab it out of sids repos |
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| 20:54.17 | eptalon | thanks, will start playing around with mpd |
| 20:54.20 | daemonkeeper | As it is available, read the bug report. The upstream source is outdated as of today. |
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| 20:54.39 | Amnesia | daemonkeeper: was that towards me? |
| 20:54.48 | Iridos | Amnesia, I think it should be mentioned in the bug... there was not enough time to include it with squeeze, so it was planned to provide it via backports |
| 20:54.49 | daemonkeeper | Yes, it was. |
| 20:55.16 | Amnesia | hm gonna google for squeeze's backports then:) |
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| 20:55.32 | Iridos | Amnesia, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=601820 |
| 20:55.42 | daemonkeeper | Amnesia: As Iridos pointed out for you, there is no official backport (yet) |
| 20:55.46 | Amnesia | yeah just read that;) |
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| 20:55.48 | Iridos | Amnesia, you can of course always backport it yourself... |
| 20:55.48 | Amnesia | ah sorry:$ |
| 20:55.58 | Iridos | !tell Amnesia about ssb |
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| 20:56.37 | Amnesia | hm, I've always had quite a job with getting newer software on debian:P |
| 20:58.12 | JyZyXEL | how do you handle dynamic aliased interfaces on debian? |
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| 21:01.02 | daemonkeeper | JyZyXEL: Like what? eth0:foobar? Just add it as usual |
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| 21:01.21 | JyZyXEL | oh? |
| 21:02.24 | JyZyXEL | and what about the mac address |
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| 21:02.47 | daemonkeeper | A sub interface has not its own MAC address, but shares one with the main interface. |
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| 21:03.06 | Amnesia | daemonkeeper, Iridos: ftp://ftp.at.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/squeeze-backports/ |
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| 21:03.23 | hadean | ohai |
| 21:03.30 | JyZyXEL | well the dhclient needs to send unique identifiers for each one |
| 21:03.33 | ranamalo | anyone successfully have grub boot from software RAID 10? |
| 21:03.45 | JyZyXEL | how do you make that happen |
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| 21:03.54 | hadean | can someone tell me where squeeze got the package "php5-fpm"? |
| 21:04.11 | Iridos | Amnesia, we already checked with judd and it's not there right now... or do you get a different result |
| 21:04.13 | JyZyXEL | and im confused what is the relationship of /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 21:04.20 | Amnesia | yep |
| 21:04.26 | JyZyXEL | do you need dhclient.conf at all? |
| 21:04.38 | JyZyXEL | can you do everything in interfaces? |
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| 21:04.56 | daemonkeeper | JyZyXEL: What do you want to achieve? A sub interface sounds about wrong for your goal |
| 21:05.07 | Pete-J | Hey i am about to set up a cross-compiler envoirment, however i am limited to use a very old version of mipsel-linux-gcc inorder to compile the needed version of uboot i need. So i am about to setup a virtual system to handle this because alot of libs needs also to be older. So i am just wondering what version of Debain had gcc-mipsel_3.3.4-1 in it's repository? |
| 21:05.15 | JyZyXEL | well what do you propose |
| 21:05.17 | JyZyXEL | what else is there |
| 21:05.23 | daemonkeeper | Tell about your problem? |
| 21:05.56 | JyZyXEL | the problem is how do you set up dynamic aliased interfaces |
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| 21:06.50 | JyZyXEL | i haven't yet found any documentation talking about that |
| 21:06.54 | daemonkeeper | What do you understand as "dynamic aliased interface"? |
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| 21:07.10 | JyZyXEL | an aliased interface using dhcp |
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| 21:07.27 | JyZyXEL | also what used to be called a "virtual interface" |
| 21:07.47 | daemonkeeper | Ah, so you want to configure an IP address by DHCP for a ethX:Y interface? |
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| 21:07.54 | JyZyXEL | yes |
| 21:08.08 | daemonkeeper | You use DHCP for ethX as well? |
| 21:08.15 | JyZyXEL | yes |
| 21:08.31 | Amnesia | daemonkeeper: it;s up:) |
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| 21:10.01 | daemonkeeper | Ok, that makes me understand your problem at least. You can't use a MAC as identifier nonetheless. You might need to configure dhclient to send a identifier. |
| 21:10.25 | daemonkeeper | Although I'm unsre you can do this on a sub interface base |
| 21:10.29 | daemonkeeper | *unsure |
| 21:10.55 | eintopf | hi guys, I installed rxvt-unicode in wheezy. `echo $TERM` says rxvt-256color. I had problems with keybinding in this terminal. There must be a depends on ncurses-term: /usr/share/terminfo/r/rxvt-256color. This has a terminfo |
| 21:11.06 | JyZyXEL | im having problems finding any infromation about it |
| 21:11.47 | OldParr | which of these files should i download for an intel i3 cpu?: amd64, armel, kfreebsd-i386, kfreebsd-amd64, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, sparc, s390, source, multi-arch |
| 21:12.04 | daemonkeeper | All I can suggest you is dhclient.conf(5). If you manage to get dhcp working, you are fine to use a simple dhcp configuration for interfaces. |
| 21:12.22 | JyZyXEL | but theres the debian layer on top of it |
| 21:12.25 | JyZyXEL | interfaces stuff |
| 21:13.17 | daemonkeeper | Not really, you should be fine width "iface ethX:Y inet dhcp", real magic starts in dhclient.conf (if possible) |
| 21:14.03 | JyZyXEL | oh |
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| 21:15.28 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: i3 is amd64 |
| 21:15.50 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: s390 is a mainframe as big as a house. |
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| 21:16.22 | blinki | as a user of zsh, when I sudo -s, my .zshrc is no longer sourced. is this deliberate? |
| 21:16.31 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: mips and armel are usually found in embedded devices. |
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| 21:16.58 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: You can also use i386 on an i3, it might be a little more efficient depending on what you're doing. |
| 21:17.24 | daemonkeeper | blinki: Sure, if anything you need to put the approrpriate .zshrc for the the user you switch to |
| 21:17.47 | thewanderer1 | daemonkeeper: no, HOME is preserved so *source* user needs to have it! |
| 21:17.59 | OldParr | Jhutchings_it: i just use it to format flash drives |
| 21:18.36 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: Not if you use -s (which spawns a new shell as target user) |
| 21:18.38 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: Either one then. |
| 21:18.44 | blinki | daemonkeeper: I've symlinked /root/.zshrc to my user's home to no effect; I'm about to just alias sudo -s in my .zshrc so it gets replaced properly now |
| 21:19.11 | blinki | I'd like it to just export my current environment into the subshell if possible |
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| 21:19.47 | jhutchins_lt | blinki: I would imagine that /root/.zshrc would be owned and readable by root. |
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| 21:21.15 | twanny796 | can I download a different kernel other than vimlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 for lenny? |
| 21:21.16 | blinki | I could copy it if you're saying it's not secure to symlink it, but I'd like to avoid having more than 1 to update whenever I add things. this didn't happen when I was on etch |
| 21:21.45 | daemonkeeper | Well, maybe try it to find out. |
| 21:21.52 | jhutchins_lt | twanny796: There's .32 in backports. |
| 21:22.01 | jhutchins_lt | !tell twanny796 about bdo |
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| 21:22.44 | OldParr | is possible to install downloading only debian-6.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso if you want to install gnome only ? |
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| 21:23.08 | daemonkeeper | OldParr: Sure, just skip the desktop selection when prompted |
| 21:23.27 | jhutchins_lt | daemonkeeper: Yes, we usually recommend a netinstall, you only have to download what you actually use then. |
| 21:23.29 | daemonkeeper | OldParr: You could even use the netinst image. |
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| 21:23.43 | daemonkeeper | (jhutchins_lt means you as well) |
| 21:23.55 | OldParr | i can not use he netinst i need to install by CD |
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| 21:24.54 | OldParr | but i do not want to download CD in excess because i jut want to have gnome desktop |
| 21:25.12 | daemonkeeper | To install, you are fine with the first CD only. |
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| 21:25.23 | daemonkeeper | There is also a special Gnome CD |
| 21:25.37 | jhutchins_lt | D'Oh! |
| 21:26.03 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: US English? |
| 21:26.15 | daemonkeeper | Sorry, no, only -kde it seems. |
| 21:26.46 | jhutchins_lt | daemonkeeper: Right, the standard one's the gnome CD. |
| 21:26.57 | daemonkeeper | Oh, ok, even better. |
| 21:27.02 | OldParr | the first CD includes Gnome Desktop? , i want the system in spanish |
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| 21:27.15 | daemonkeeper | It does, according to jhutchins_lt |
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| 21:27.49 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: Not sure which one you'd need for spanish then - main thing on the other CD's is internationalization. |
| 21:27.58 | jhutchins_lt | To the interwebs! |
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| 21:28.45 | evilaim | alright you debian sexy boys |
| 21:28.50 | evilaim | I need something, cause i'm awesome like that |
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| 21:29.16 | evilaim | I run windows 7 on my laptop (cause I'm lame like that), but I need something to monitor my debian server live. |
| 21:29.20 | evilaim | like a widget |
| 21:29.32 | evilaim | *starts thinking he should be asking in #winblows... |
| 21:29.57 | daemonkeeper | You should |
| 21:30.04 | daemonkeeper | Anything that can monitor SNMP is ok |
| 21:30.17 | OldParr | but if i install the system in U.S. english, it is enough to download the first CD and still have the possibility of installing gnome desktop with only tht first CD? |
| 21:30.19 | justin_ | snmp is lame |
| 21:30.26 | justin_ | evilaim: what do you mean by "monitor"? |
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| 21:30.54 | evilaim | umm |
| 21:31.05 | evilaim | htop, b/w usages, proc listing |
| 21:31.08 | evilaim | you know conky? |
| 21:31.17 | evilaim | that but for remote |
| 21:31.21 | evilaim | but ran on windows |
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| 21:31.27 | thewanderer1 | evilaim: well... conky over VNC? |
| 21:31.34 | MrFrood | evilaim: ssh in with putty and use the local monitoring tools |
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| 21:31.44 | daemonkeeper | OldParr: You are fine to install Debian with the first CD only, including a Gnome desktop. Probably you will need other CDs for full i18n language support and many packages. |
| 21:31.47 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: Y'know, I'm sure that somewhere there's a list of which CD is what but I'm not finding it. |
| 21:31.48 | evilaim | Yea, I don't want to have to keep a putty open |
| 21:31.58 | evilaim | honestly, I'm hurting to change this system to debian |
| 21:32.09 | evilaim | I think I might just do that instead, then embed a terminal to my desktop |
| 21:32.12 | evilaim | and do it that way |
| 21:32.21 | evilaim | cause windows is seriously cramping my style |
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| 21:32.47 | evilaim | might dual boot I guess |
| 21:32.49 | mroe_ | I'm trying to get an rsyslog rule working: http://pastebin.com/tkk2JJ2B - However everything from that host still goes to /var/log/syslog. I'm not really sure how to debug an rsyslog rule so I am kind of stuck |
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| 21:33.41 | TuomasT | There are *52* CDs I need to burn to install Debian from CD? |
| 21:34.10 | daemonkeeper | TuomasT: Yes. |
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| 21:34.20 | TuomasT | Ok, the next distro then |
| 21:34.35 | amphi | heh |
| 21:34.37 | Aust | Is it possible to set a catchall for exim4 in /etc/aliases on a specific domain? I've read the docs (section 22 in exim4-base/spec.txt.gz) and it didn't talk about any type of domain-based catch-all, only user-based |
| 21:34.42 | sacredchao | After I updated or ran some software, not sure what... I stopped being able to click+drag the mouse with my Thinkpad's trackpad and the top mouse buttons. Click_drag only works on the top buttons + clit mouse |
| 21:34.44 | mroe_ | TuomasT: why not what is called a 'net-install' |
| 21:34.47 | daemonkeeper | TuomasT: Well, you don't need them. You are fine with a 170M netinst image |
| 21:35.04 | sacredchao | How can I force click+drag to work with any mouse input/mouse button combo on my Thinkpad? |
| 21:35.08 | sacredchao | What software even controls this? |
| 21:35.28 | mroe_ | 52CDs I believe represents the entirety of the debian main repo |
| 21:35.39 | jhutchins_lt | mroe_: THere's a few others as well. |
| 21:35.47 | daemonkeeper | Yes, mroe_. No reason to download /all/ of them, unless you work completely offline |
| 21:35.58 | mroe_ | jhutchins_lt: a few other whats? |
| 21:36.32 | jhutchins_lt | TuomasT: I'm searching for a list of what all the different CDs are, but the 52 image set includes all pacakges and all translations/internationalizations. |
| 21:37.27 | shingouz | TuomasT: basically you want them all only if you are planning to move off-planet |
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| 21:37.49 | TuomasT | How about a single CD and/or DVD full of the most commonly needed packages besides the netinstall image? |
| 21:38.10 | jhutchins_lt | TuomasT: For a standard Gnome US English desktop, the first CD should be enough to at least get started. |
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| 21:38.49 | mroe_ | TuomasT: are you forced to work completely off-line? |
| 21:38.53 | shingouz | TuomasT: if you have an internet connection, you only need the netinstall, otherwise the first shold be enough |
| 21:38.55 | TuomasT | mroe_: no |
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| 21:39.14 | mroe_ | TuomasT: then is there a reason you don't want to use the online repositories? |
| 21:39.28 | justin_ | sigh |
| 21:39.44 | TuomasT | mroe_: I will do just that. Having all those 52cds/8dvds seem pointless for 99.8% people |
| 21:39.51 | justin_ | when someone asks if they need to download all 52 cds it is not because they want to download all 52 cds, it is because they didn't bother reading the install guide |
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| 21:40.28 | justin_ | TuomasT: luckily some really smart people have already ordered the packages on the cds by popularity |
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| 21:40.56 | TuomasT | justin_: that is what I want to hear |
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| 21:41.03 | kjfletch | justin_: what is package N-1 (popularity wise) I wonder. |
| 21:41.12 | daemonkeeper | !popcon |
| 21:41.13 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ . Statistics are also available via IRC, /msg judd popcon $package |
| 21:41.14 | justin_ | TuomasT: the availability of 8dvds does not in any way mean that you are required to download them all |
| 21:41.15 | Tramp | mroe_: it's "fromhost-ip" |
| 21:41.37 | mroe_ | Tramp: isn't that wha tI have? |
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| 21:42.00 | Tramp | mroe_: no. You have "FROMHOST-IP" |
| 21:42.01 | justin_ | kjfletch: tons of packages have < 10 installs |
| 21:42.04 | mroe_ | I tried lowercase first |
| 21:42.08 | mroe_ | with the same result |
| 21:42.14 | unreal-dude | the 8DVDs would only be necessary if you are offline for extended periods of time |
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| 21:42.26 | Tramp | mroe_: as the doc says, properties are case-sensitive, and lower case works fine for me |
| 21:42.35 | mroe_ | ok, I will try again |
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| 21:44.34 | kjfletch | justin_: I might install some, I can look at the statistics and say "I'm one of them <10 people." to feel part of something. |
| 21:45.12 | Tramp | mroe_: apart from that, the html-manual (in rsyslog-doc) has a section about troubleshooting |
| 21:45.19 | OldParr | aanyone knows where to get the list of packages in first CD of debian? |
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| 21:45.35 | mroe_ | Tramp: ok, thanks |
| 21:45.43 | Tramp | yw |
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| 21:46.03 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/list-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-CD-1.list.gz |
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| 21:46.27 | jhutchins_lt | unreal-dude: Do you know of any list that says which image is what? |
| 21:46.40 | SuzieQ | Hi |
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| 21:46.46 | deego | Before upgrading to squeeze, I carefully converted everything (menu.lst and fstab) to labels, and rebooted and tested. Yet, during the upgrade, the new grub.cfg uses uuids. |
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| 21:47.10 | jhutchins_lt | deego: Yup. |
| 21:47.11 | deego | [1] When upgrading on other machines, can I request the upgrade process to use labels? |
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| 21:47.22 | jhutchins_lt | deego: uuid's are more reliable than labels. |
| 21:47.24 | deego | (that's what the released notes suggested: labels are preferred, etc.) |
| 21:47.35 | deego | jhutchins_lt: I see |
| 21:47.47 | Grell | hey is the latest debian testing build wheezy or squeeze? |
| 21:47.58 | jhutchins_lt | Also the system is able to generate and match up the uuid's by itself, it's not set up to generate labels. |
| 21:48.13 | holoseen | Is this the way to boot to single user mode in squeeze? add "ro s" to kernel line upon grub boot? |
| 21:48.13 | jhutchins_lt | Grell: Wheezy as of the 5th. |
| 21:48.22 | deego | jhutchins_lt: So, it is recommended that I stay this way? |
| 21:48.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | holoseen: add 'single' |
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| 21:48.45 | jhutchins_lt | deego: It's really up to you. I often revert to device ID because it's more readable by me. |
| 21:49.04 | holoseen | ro single ? |
| 21:49.19 | deego | jhutchins_lt: Got you. How do I upgrade the new grub.cfg the "right way?" It says: Do not edit this file. |
| 21:49.34 | holoseen | ok will try that. I don't believe it is working, though. |
| 21:50.15 | jhutchins_lt | deego: /etc/defaults/grub for most things. |
| 21:50.36 | jhutchins_lt | deego: fourty-leven files in /etc/grub.d/ for some. |
| 21:51.06 | deego | jhutchins_lt: thanks. |
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| 21:53.57 | anoob_ | hi, can you help me? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=60366 |
| 21:54.05 | evilaim | Question |
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| 21:54.13 | evilaim | on my system monitor for debian 5.0 |
| 21:54.25 | functor | so, I decided to upgrade from lenny to squeeze |
| 21:54.27 | functor | bad move |
| 21:54.30 | evilaim | it says used "physical memory" 3.14 |
| 21:54.35 | functor | not everythings broken in apt-get |
| 21:54.36 | evilaim | gigs |
| 21:54.38 | functor | now* |
| 21:54.40 | evilaim | but when I break it down |
| 21:54.46 | evilaim | 2.5 is Cache |
| 21:54.52 | functor | cpp-4.4 : Depends: gcc-4.4-base (= 4.4.5-8) but 4.4.5-10 is to be installed for example |
| 21:55.03 | evilaim | Is that normal? |
| 21:55.36 | evilaim | I use htop and is says nothing about cache |
| 21:56.13 | justin_ | evilaim: the orange at the top of htop is cache |
| 21:56.44 | evilaim | *looks* |
| 21:56.55 | justin_ | functor: what does your sources.list contain? |
| 21:56.58 | evilaim | ok |
| 21:57.05 | justin_ | judd: versions gcc-4.4-base |
| 21:57.06 | judd | Package gcc-4.4-base on i386 -- squeeze: 4.4.5-8; sid: 4.4.5-10; wheezy: 4.4.5-10 |
| 21:57.11 | justin_ | lol |
| 21:57.15 | evilaim | well in htop, it says I'm using 389 megs of memory. |
| 21:57.23 | justin_ | functor: looks like you upgraded half to squeeze, half to sid |
| 21:57.34 | evilaim | swap is 0 of 2 gigs |
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| 21:57.48 | justin_ | functor: well, that or you have testing in your sources |
| 21:57.57 | justin_ | evilaim: problem? |
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| 21:58.46 | evilaim | That top and http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpsysinfo/ say I have 2.59 gigs used in my cached memory |
| 21:58.57 | justin_ | evilaim: that's not a problem |
| 21:59.10 | OldParr | jhutchins_lt: THANKS |
| 21:59.22 | Guest12074 | Hey guys, do you know a good device (like usb device) what could create a wifi network (something simple and easy to use) ? |
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| 21:59.55 | functor | justin_: my sources are all squeeze |
| 22:00.04 | functor | ill pastebin |
| 22:00.26 | functor | justin_: "although" I may have installed some testing packages at some point |
| 22:00.31 | functor | and lenny-backports |
| 22:00.56 | evilaim | So having 2.59 gigs in your cached memory is ok? |
| 22:01.14 | evilaim | I don't like to see memory used up like that, it's just a mental thing for me |
| 22:02.08 | functor | justin_: http://p.haxdev.org/index.php?name=sources |
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| 22:02.25 | xand | evilaim: yes it's normal |
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| 22:03.11 | functor | justin_: I think I might have put some sid packages when I tried to get the sid version of a certain package.. then I removed sid |
| 22:03.17 | functor | how do I roll these back to squeeze? |
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| 22:04.39 | daemonkeeper | You don't (read: There is no official way to do) |
| 22:05.08 | functor | remove everything I cant and re-download? |
| 22:05.17 | functor | can* |
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| 22:06.37 | daemonkeeper | if this is possible (e.g. core components have not been upgraded) this is perhaps the easiest way, yet not more or less supported than "not at all" |
| 22:06.51 | daemonkeeper | For everything else you can pin priorities and force a downgrade. Make sure you understand what you do though. |
| 22:07.25 | daemonkeeper | In any case this won't help you if configuration files and/or binary data used by daemons has changed |
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| 22:07.49 | daemonkeeper | i.e. you upgraded to a newer version which introduced not backwards compatible changes. |
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| 22:09.39 | jhutchins_lt | functor: there's a way to select sid/unstable packages with aptitude. ~rsid or ~runstable or something like that - see man page for correct details. |
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| 22:10.16 | rtghuzhg | hi, can anybody me help ive got a sftp share, if i create a folder with sftp (the parent folder has acl's for mask) the mask is okay (rwx), if i mount the share with sshfs and create a folder he set my mask to (r-x) although the default mask is rwx |
| 22:10.25 | jhutchins_lt | Our Teutonic friends must be off entertaining their sweethearts this evening, they're pretty handy with that stuff. |
| 22:10.36 | rtghuzhg | how can i fix that |
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| 22:11.44 | sillykone | Hi, I tried to install libreoffice in Debian. However, I can't find it. No executables exist. Anyone else having this trouble? |
| 22:12.25 | jhutchins_lt | sillykone: It's in sid or experimental - hasn't been out long enough to work through to testing, let alone stable. |
| 22:12.31 | streuner_ | jhutchins_lt: sounds like a really big clever statement :-) |
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| 22:12.38 | linuxxx | hello |
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| 22:13.00 | jhutchins_lt | sillykone: Their first working release was only a month or so ago. |
| 22:13.14 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions libreoffice |
| 22:13.17 | judd | Package libreoffice on i386 -- sid: 1:3.3.1~rc1-2 |
| 22:13.24 | xyan | sillykone: take a look in /opt/ watch out for a bin folder containing an soffice executable |
| 22:13.30 | streuner_ | jhutchins_lt: what kind of crap do you smoke? :-) |
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| 22:14.03 | linuxxx | i followed this guide http://wiki.debian.org/wl and iwconfig returns me lo, eth0, eth1 if i do iwlist scan the output i get: eth1 failed to read scan data: invalid argument |
| 22:14.05 | phogg | sillykone: iirc the openoffice that is shipped by debian incorporates many of the patches that went in to libreoffice |
| 22:14.43 | valdyn | linuxxx: is eth1 a wlan interface? |
| 22:14.44 | streuner_ | _rene_ did a good job always, he will fix it soon, no worries ;-) |
| 22:14.59 | ZykoticK9 | sillykone, did you install the libreoffice3.3-debian-menus_3.3-6_all.deb which adds to gnome menu? It should be in a subfolder with the other DEBs. |
| 22:15.02 | jhutchins_lt | phogg: libreoffice is the fork. |
| 22:16.08 | jhutchins_lt | http://www.libreoffice.org/ |
| 22:16.24 | jhutchins_lt | phogg: I have not heard of oo being interested in adopting their work. |
| 22:16.32 | jhutchins_lt | phogg: That's the whole reason for the fork. |
| 22:16.46 | phogg | jhutchins_lt: yes, but go-oo was maintaining patches for oo.o for a long time before libreoffice existed, and from the reports I read many distros have been using them |
| 22:16.57 | linuxxx | valdyn, how can i know it? |
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| 22:17.54 | valdyn | linuxxx: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules should list a name for it |
| 22:18.16 | jhutchins_lt | valdyn: iwconfig should show which interfaces have wifi extensions. |
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| 22:18.31 | valdyn | linuxxx: ^^ |
| 22:18.34 | jhutchins_lt | Gah! linuxx^ |
| 22:18.36 | streuner_ | Dont tell that valdyn |
| 22:18.51 | valdyn | streuner_: why what? |
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| 22:19.03 | streuner_ | valdyn: nm |
| 22:19.04 | linuxxx | iwconfig return l0, eth0, eth1 |
| 22:19.39 | streuner_ | valdyn: jhutchins_lt make not only one mistake ;-) |
| 22:19.42 | valdyn | linuxxx: it returns something like: "lo no wireless extensions." |
| 22:19.48 | linuxxx | yes |
| 22:19.59 | linuxxx | valdyn, lo and eth0 says no wireless extesnsions |
| 22:20.16 | valdyn | linuxxx: so thats not wlan interfaces and iwlist scan will hardly do something useful |
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| 22:20.30 | jhutchins_lt | linuxxx: So eth1 is the wireless. What does dmesg say about it? Does it require firmware perhaps? |
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| 22:22.02 | valdyn | does the wlan stack still use those virtual interfaces? |
| 22:22.19 | linuxxx | jhulst, dmesg | grep eth1 returns: eth1: Broadcom BCM4727 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 5.60.48.36 |
| 22:22.30 | jhutchins_lt | valdyn: Depends on the driver. |
| 22:22.45 | Sessl | After upgrade Lenny > Squeeze the VSFTPD Service (through init.d) won't come up, after uninstall, clean and reinstall, the installer doesn't create a new vsftpd.conf. Is there a way to regenerate the conf file? THX |
| 22:22.46 | jhutchins_lt | !4727 |
| 22:22.46 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI-ID 14e4:4727, incorrectly reported as BCM4727 by wlc_hybrid) is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chipset, not supported by the <b43> driver. For support on Debian systems, ask me <brcm80211>, <wl>. |
| 22:22.47 | OldParr | how do i write the iso to a blank cd under windows? |
| 22:23.26 | valdyn | OldParr: with nero or clonecd or whatever burning tool |
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| 22:23.59 | valdyn | OldParr: or that nifty little tool isorecorder |
| 22:24.03 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ |
| 22:24.16 | linuxxx | jhutchins_kc, and what's happening? |
| 22:24.22 | valdyn | OldParr: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm |
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| 22:25.15 | jhutchins_lt | valdyn: Use lspci to confirm which chipset you have, make sure you have the full setup for it |
| 22:25.28 | valdyn | linuxxx: ^^ |
| 22:25.32 | streuner_ | jhutchins_lt: wrong nick :-) |
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| 22:25.34 | jhutchins_lt | Sigh. |
| 22:25.40 | jhutchins_lt | I keep doing that. |
| 22:25.41 | streuner_ | yeah :-) |
| 22:26.05 | linuxxx | jhujhiti, you are talking to valdyn or with me? xd |
| 22:26.17 | valdyn | geez |
| 22:26.20 | jhutchins_lt | linuxxx: Once you know for sure, you can /msg dpkg b43 or wl or whatever. |
| 22:26.34 | jhutchins_lt | linuxxx: I'm doing the same thing you just did. |
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| 22:27.09 | linuxxx | lspci -nn returns BCM4313 [14E4:4727] |
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| 22:29.19 | jhutchins_lt | linuxxx: So /msg dpkg b43 |
| 22:30.24 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Sessl about confmiss |
| 22:30.31 | amphi | judd: pciid 14E4:4727 |
| 22:30.33 | judd | [14e4:4727] is 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'brcm80211' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4727 http://wiki.debian.org/wl http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 and the out-of-tree 'wl' module. |
| 22:31.19 | amphi | linuxxx: http://wiki.debian.org/wl may be of interest |
| 22:31.28 | linuxxx | amphi, this is what im using |
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| 22:31.57 | linuxxx | because bcm80211 gives me a kernel panic when scanning for wifis |
| 22:32.16 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: it's the killswitch. |
| 22:32.18 | Sessl | jhutchins_lt: that would be nice! |
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| 22:32.29 | linuxxx | as reported here http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/bug-602444-firmware-brcm80211-kernel-panic-iwlist-scan-help-200937681.html |
| 22:32.32 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: is it Dell Inspiron 15R, by any chance? |
| 22:32.41 | linuxxx | no, hp mini 210 |
| 22:32.45 | thewanderer1 | well, anyway |
| 22:32.54 | thewanderer1 | you need to press a button on the keyboard to enable the WiFi |
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| 22:32.59 | thewanderer1 | or a killswitch on the chassis |
| 22:33.07 | linuxxx | ooo is true :( |
| 22:33.07 | thewanderer1 | look for some Fn-Fsomething combination |
| 22:33.09 | amphi | linuxxx: did you try bcm80211 with the kernel from experimental? |
| 22:33.13 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: Does that need the hotkeys package? |
| 22:33.14 | peja | What happended to "suphp" (system commands). Like etc " system('id'); " worked at lenny, but in squeeze you have use full path like a " system('/usr/bin/id'); " |
| 22:33.35 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins_lt: no, it's controlled by hardware |
| 22:33.36 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i had wifi button in red now is in blue so i think is activated now |
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| 22:34.02 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: yes. this particular Broadcom model is crap because it always shows 1 (enabled) in rfkill state, whereas it's really disabled |
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| 22:34.12 | thewanderer1 | so Linux does not know if the WiFi is really up or not... |
| 22:34.21 | thewanderer1 | you'll have to keep an eye on the LED |
| 22:34.47 | linuxxx | i rebooted the pc and is activated permanently the wifi button |
| 22:35.04 | thewanderer1 | good |
| 22:35.32 | linuxxx | but now it only appears lo and eth0 at iwconfig output |
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| 22:35.40 | jhutchins_lt | adds a mark to thewanderer1's score. |
| 22:35.55 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: load wl |
| 22:36.18 | thewanderer1 | you might not have it loaded or not have blacklisted brcm80211 |
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| 22:37.21 | thewanderer1 | well, I was going through the same bug 3 hours ago... but my Dell doesn't have a status indicator :P |
| 22:37.38 | OldParr | jhutchins_lt: thanks |
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| 22:37.56 | Sessl | jhutchins_lt |
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| 22:38.07 | Sessl | jhutchins_lt thx!!! |
| 22:38.19 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, now appears l0, eth0, eth1 |
| 22:38.25 | jhutchins_lt | You're all very welcome. Beats sudoku. |
| 22:38.43 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: looks correct, try running `iwlist scan` now |
| 22:38.59 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, the same error |
| 22:39.02 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: also, remove brcm80211 and ssb first as per the wiki page |
| 22:39.14 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, eth1 failed to read scan data: invalid argument |
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| 22:39.31 | thewanderer1 | well, is the light still on? |
| 22:39.38 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, yes |
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| 22:39.50 | thewanderer1 | ok, go through all the steps mentioned in the wiki again |
| 22:39.57 | thewanderer1 | so remove wl, remove the modules, modprobe wl again |
| 22:40.00 | linuxxx | thewander1, ok |
| 22:40.13 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i have to reinstalll packages? |
| 22:40.17 | thewanderer1 | no |
| 22:40.37 | thewanderer1 | just all modprobe lines that are mentioned |
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| 22:41.04 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, ok i've done step 6 and 7 |
| 22:41.59 | thewanderer1 | good... |
| 22:42.10 | linuxxx | maybe is better to try brcm80211 driver |
| 22:42.16 | thewanderer1 | it was working for me today |
| 22:42.21 | thewanderer1 | you're on Squeeze, yes? |
| 22:42.30 | linuxxx | the kernel panick maybe what for the wifi button |
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| 22:42.34 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, yes |
| 22:42.38 | thewanderer1 | I had no luck with brcm80211... |
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| 22:42.50 | thewanderer1 | and it's the same PCIID/model |
| 22:43.24 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, ok |
| 22:43.27 | alexxio | i am configuring my debian from console in a remote location, because i can't be actually there...is there a way to emulate the usb pullout and pullin? (i can't think something better, i am out of solutions for my webcam not working) |
| 22:43.31 | sillykone | ZykoticK9: I don't think I did. |
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| 22:43.47 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: does dmesg list anything interesting? |
| 22:44.14 | flock-_ | I got a .sh file that I would like to run every 10 minutes, how can I do it? |
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| 22:44.25 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: also, check this: /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/name and state from this dir |
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| 22:44.39 | thewanderer1 | if the name is not related to wifi, try rfkill0 and so on |
| 22:44.43 | thewanderer1 | err rfkill1 |
| 22:44.51 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, any | grep something to dmesg?? |
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| 22:45.10 | alexxio | i get: no way to get: 352x288 24 bit TrueColor (BE: rgb) , in streamer, dont know how to change and in what |
| 22:45.15 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: no, rather tail |
| 22:45.59 | thewanderer1 | for me it was the rfkill... |
| 22:46.11 | Strife89 | seems to need a dependency but isn't sure which package. |
| 22:46.11 | thewanderer1 | are you sure you didn't just enable Bluetooth instead of WiFi? |
| 22:46.16 | Strife89 | ./Fusion: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 22:46.25 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i dont have rfkill directory |
| 22:46.34 | Strife89 | Anyone know which (if any) package will fix this? |
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| 22:47.00 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: err just a moment... let me boot the Inspiron |
| 22:47.37 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, dmesg | tail nothing interesting |
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| 22:48.27 | thewanderer1 | is b43, b44 or brcm80211 loaded? (lsmod) |
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| 22:48.43 | SJr | Trying to recompile my kernel and when I install it I can't boot: Root-NFS: no NFS server address. VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, trying floppy. Kernel panic - not syncing: VPS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0) |
| 22:49.16 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i only pressed f12 button http://www.displayblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/HP_Mini_210_Mini_2101_10inch_Pine_Trail_Netbook.jpg |
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| 22:49.54 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: alright, did you get any signal that the WiFi has gone up? |
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| 22:50.12 | thewanderer1 | e.g. can you correlate the LED to the WiFi state? |
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| 22:50.32 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, lsmod | grep b43, lsmod | grep b44 and lsmod | grep brcm80211 return nothing |
| 22:50.33 | sharp15 | i just had a window popup in the corner of my kde install telling me package upgrades were available and i should update. did this come from debian or kde and how do i turn it off? |
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| 22:51.17 | alexxio | did debian squeeze changed something into 24 bit? |
| 22:51.20 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, mmmm i dont know now is blue |
| 22:51.29 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: try disabling it and enabling a few times |
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| 22:51.37 | thewanderer1 | and see if it's really that |
| 22:51.52 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, disabled light is red |
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| 22:53.07 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, the button is detected because dmesg | tail changes when i press the button |
| 22:53.16 | thewanderer1 | ok |
| 22:53.28 | thewanderer1 | I'm guessing it's a race condition, let's verify |
| 22:53.59 | thewanderer1 | do you have /sys/class/rfkill ? |
| 22:54.21 | terr_ | SJr: I had a split here... any progress? |
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| 22:54.23 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, no |
| 22:54.24 | terr_ | I'm on a really old version of debian (sarge I think) and I want to run python2.5 or better. Apt-cache doesn't list it. Is it even possible for me to easily update just python? The reason I don't want to try to do more is this system has been badly broken since the woody-> sarge upgrade |
| 22:54.34 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: then something went terribly wrong... |
| 22:54.35 | SJr | no, terr_ |
| 22:54.48 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: how does dmesg change when you press the button? |
| 22:55.00 | SJr | I'm trying a recompile now, I am using defconfig, as opposed to the one supplied by debian, as it takes FOREVER to build |
| 22:55.23 | StyXman | terr_: you might try backporting it |
| 22:55.26 | terr_ | sjr - check initrd |
| 22:55.35 | SJr | ah |
| 22:55.38 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: also, `modprobe rfkill` |
| 22:55.44 | SJr | I think it was lack of scsi support |
| 22:55.59 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, modprobe rfkill done without errors |
| 22:56.00 | StyXman | terr_: or checking if there is a backport available, but I don't think you'll find anything for sarge |
| 22:56.10 | terr_ | StyXman: I doin't wnat to spend any time on it... if its done I'll try an install... if not I'll drop it. Its only for downloading youtu7be and I don't have time for them either |
| 22:56.20 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: now you should see /sys/class/rfkill |
| 22:56.27 | themill | terr_: python is one of these things that doesn't backport easily. Running distributions that are 6 years paste their use-by date isn't that great. |
| 22:56.30 | terr_ | StyXman: thought not. For what I do my version is usually fine. |
| 22:56.52 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, yes now it is |
| 22:56.56 | alexxio | m-a a-i qc-usb-source <--- i found this command, but what it does actually?? :O |
| 22:57.01 | terr_ | themill: you mena Linux has a "best before date". Go figure! |
| 22:57.19 | terr_ | themill: I'm not fully caught up on all this version can do! |
| 22:57.23 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: ok, what does it contain? |
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| 22:57.38 | themill | terr_: sarge hasn't been supported since June 2005. |
| 22:57.42 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, nothing |
| 22:57.56 | themill | terr_: err... 2008, actually. |
| 22:58.04 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: alright, this is not good... apparently there is no usable interface between the rfkill and the button on your keyboard |
| 22:58.11 | somnambulant | Can we not download Debian Lenny netinst anymore? |
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| 22:58.26 | feanor | Oh GODS FROM THE SKIES! |
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| 22:58.30 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, maybe if now i press the button? |
| 22:58.33 | dvs | rfkill? That's a good sign |
| 22:58.35 | feanor | help me, am I going insane? |
| 22:58.39 | dvs | yes |
| 22:58.44 | terr_ | themill: actually sarge was broken out of the box. I think mmisatched libs because a lot of programs arn't calling wait() and I get lotssa zombies. |
| 22:58.46 | feanor | or am I already? |
| 22:59.25 | StyXman | feanor: what haunts you? |
| 22:59.27 | feanor | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 6815 feb 14 23:28 /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 22:59.30 | themill | terr_: can't say I ever had that trouble with sarge; that doesn't mean you shouldn't be upgrading. |
| 22:59.34 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: try it... |
| 22:59.35 | terr_ | themill: what I will do is simply install in a new box that has been sitting here in my office for a year! |
| 22:59.42 | feanor | I did "chmod +w" it, then changed a line, |
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| 22:59.46 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: and show what dmesg tells you after you press it |
| 23:00.02 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, nothing.. |
| 23:00.04 | terr_ | themill... I could ask it to upgrade and it will probably work... but if it breaks further then I have no decent net access |
| 23:00.05 | feanor | I added the "nolapic" |
| 23:00.12 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: does it change state? |
| 23:00.14 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, you want all dmesg log after i pressed the button |
| 23:00.15 | feanor | then update-grub, |
| 23:00.18 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: yes |
| 23:00.20 | feanor | then grub-install |
| 23:00.26 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, yes as i said u |
| 23:00.43 | blahdeblah | Hi. Anyone using squeeze under VMware ESX? I just upgraded from lenny and something in my networking broke. I can ping it fine, and can get outbound traffic, but no inbound TCP connections. I tried removing and re-adding and re-removing the VMware tools vmxnet driver without success. Any suggestions where to look next? |
| 23:01.05 | feanor | I rebooted, but that file hasn't changed! |
| 23:01.17 | feanor | and it is -w again.... |
| 23:01.18 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, where is dmesg located? |
| 23:01.20 | feanor | WTF?! |
| 23:01.33 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: /var/log/dmesg* |
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| 23:01.36 | themill | feanor: perhaps you should read the first line of that file. |
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| 23:03.34 | terr_ | blahdeblah: sounds like a firewall issue... |
| 23:03.43 | blahdeblah | terr_: I checked that |
| 23:03.51 | blahdeblah | There's never been a firewall installed on this system |
| 23:03.57 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i copy all dmesg* without .g. |
| 23:03.58 | blahdeblah | And i confirmed with iptables -L -n -v |
| 23:04.11 | jazka | is there anyway to mount a ext2/3/4 filesystem from a windowsbox ? |
| 23:04.20 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, *without .gz. extension? |
| 23:04.30 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: actually you could just paste some stuff from dmesg | tail -n 200 |
| 23:04.35 | terr_ | blahdeblah: on the phone |
| 23:04.40 | amphi | jazka: ISTR there being an ext2 driver for windows a good while bacj |
| 23:04.46 | flock-_ | I got a .sh file that I would like to run every 10 minutes, how can I do it? |
| 23:04.51 | amphi | jazka: *back - the intertubes will know |
| 23:04.58 | ZykoticK9 | flock-_, research cron |
| 23:05.02 | teclo- | Hi, how do I enable services like identd in Debian 6.0 ? It seems Debian 6.0 has no /etc/inetd.conf file |
| 23:05.04 | froggyman | jazka, There are programs for ext2/3 , but in my experience it isn't always that stable. Don't think there is for ext4 though |
| 23:05.36 | jazka | amphi, froggyman, thanks... |
| 23:05.38 | thewanderer1 | teclo-: install openbsd-inetd for that |
| 23:05.52 | teclo- | thewanderer1: ok thank you |
| 23:06.16 | froggyman | jazka, This is what I used to use: http://www.fs-driver.org/ |
| 23:06.19 | Iridos | how can that not be in the default install |
| 23:06.59 | jazka | froggyman, excellent...ill have a look! |
| 23:07.09 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, dmesg | tail - n 200 output: http://pastebin.com/pX0S9ZPc |
| 23:07.30 | froggyman | jazka, good luck! |
| 23:08.08 | nutron | using iostat, i see that blk_wrts per sec is high, can I see what's doing it? |
| 23:08.20 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: err, it has no relevant information... you sure it's the right part? |
| 23:08.27 | nutron | ie what process is using that much io bandwidth? |
| 23:08.30 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: cause I can't see it loading wl |
| 23:08.31 | amphi | nutron: iotop perhaps |
| 23:08.46 | StyXman | nutron: disk or network usage? |
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| 23:08.55 | yaaar | howdy |
| 23:09.16 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: oh, I see now |
| 23:09.32 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: was the module loaded at boot time? |
| 23:09.44 | somnambulant | ANY WAY to install Debian Lenny now? |
| 23:10.00 | StyXman | somnambulant: I have the isos, want some? |
| 23:10.07 | Bushmills | pull out your old lenny install cdrom |
| 23:10.31 | nutron | amphi: ok thanks |
| 23:10.34 | nutron | StyXman: disk |
| 23:10.39 | StyXman | somnambulant: hmm, it might be tricky, gimme a se |
| 23:10.46 | somnambulant | StyXman: I might have an old netinst but it won't work will it? |
| 23:10.49 | StyXman | nutron: then as amphi said |
| 23:11.04 | somnambulant | StyXman: I'll try that 1st |
| 23:11.08 | Iridos | !tell somnambulant about install lenny |
| 23:11.09 | StyXman | somnambulant: mirrors should still have oldstable |
| 23:11.20 | Bushmills | nutron: iotop, maybe |
| 23:11.26 | yaaar | wondering what the current best-practice is for 3ware utilities on Lenny. they aren't in the official repos, debian-unofficial lists them as "unfinished" (and unofficial is apparently going defunct). only other repo i've found is http://jonas.genannt.name/ but i'm reluctant to rely on "some guy" ...but just as reluctant to build something from source and have to watch it for updates. any... |
| 23:11.28 | yaaar | ...help or advice would be most appreciated |
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| 23:11.59 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i don't know |
| 23:12.17 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, if you want i reboot the pc and make lsmod to see if it is loaded |
| 23:12.24 | terr_ | blahdeblah: back |
| 23:12.24 | somnambulant | thx Iridos I'll dl the latest netinst and cross fingers |
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| 23:12.47 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: rmmod wl; lsmod | grep "(bcrm|b43|b44|ssb)" |
| 23:14.00 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, two command return nothing |
| 23:14.05 | nutron | ok next question, can I see what nfs is doing to chew up that much bandwidth? |
| 23:14.12 | terr_ | SJr: any progress? |
| 23:14.16 | nutron | i'm running at over 4gigs/s in io |
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| 23:14.43 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: good, modprobe it again |
| 23:14.50 | thewanderer1 | and try to `iwlist scan` |
| 23:15.00 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, modprobe wl |
| 23:15.08 | thewanderer1 | yeah |
| 23:15.09 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, returns nothing |
| 23:15.17 | thewanderer1 | so it's alright |
| 23:15.22 | StyXman | nutron: nfs client or server? |
| 23:15.38 | terr_ | SJr: that dman initrd has been a problem for over a decade... the kernel should hint at what the problem might be for the cost of "check your initrd" which is an extra 17 bytes in the panic message |
| 23:15.51 | nutron | StyXman: server |
| 23:15.51 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, iwlistscan returns l0 interface doesn't support scanning, eth0 interface doesn't support scanning, eh1 failed to read scan data: invalid arguent |
| 23:15.55 | blahdeblah | Hmmmm... It appears my name resolution is broken outbound. I wonder if one of the libraries that deborphan said was not needed is, in fact, needed. |
| 23:16.23 | Grell | so i d/led the latest debian 'testing' image and when i go to install apt grabs everything from 'squeeze' when it's supposed to be 'wheezy' |
| 23:16.34 | StyXman | nutron: use iptraf to see which client is (ab)using the server |
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| 23:17.04 | terr_ | blahdeblah: hmm - you siad you can see outbound but not iunbound? |
| 23:17.07 | nutron | StyXman: how do I get iptraf to select one destination? heh, never figured that out in all these years |
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| 23:17.24 | StyXman | nutron: one destination? |
| 23:17.26 | blahdeblah | terr_: Yep, except name resolution - very weird |
| 23:17.42 | StyXman | nutron: one port? one client? |
| 23:17.49 | terr_ | blahdeblah: check your default routes both ways |
| 23:17.50 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: this is probably a kernel bug... it should handle rfkill at least |
| 23:17.58 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: or some firmware crap is happening |
| 23:18.04 | blahdeblah | terr_: same LAN - no routing involved. |
| 23:18.13 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: anyway, it's not possible for me to debug it any further... I'm not a kernel hacker |
| 23:18.16 | blahdeblah | I can even ping the DNS server with -A and get < 0.2 ms. |
| 23:18.20 | nutron | StyXman: any heh :) all I can see in iptraf is a single interface ... |
| 23:18.22 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, hackerrrrrrr |
| 23:18.26 | nutron | so that includes all traffic |
| 23:18.33 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: this problem is known... the best you can do right now is buy a Intel wireless card |
| 23:18.34 | terr_ | blahdeblah: the host has to have the default route in the tables and maybe its at the wrong IP. Are they static? |
| 23:18.42 | StyXman | nutron: yes, where you can see which traffic is peaking |
| 23:18.44 | nutron | lan station monitor is helpful |
| 23:18.54 | amphi | linuxxx: did you try the kernel in experimental? |
| 23:19.00 | blahdeblah | terr_: single interface, assigned by DHCP reservation |
| 23:19.00 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i will try brcm80211 |
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| 23:19.05 | blahdeblah | checks routes |
| 23:19.07 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i have it installed |
| 23:19.27 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, all u said was running in normal kernel |
| 23:19.34 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, if u want i can try in the experimental |
| 23:19.56 | thewanderer1 | this was in 2.6.32-5, right? |
| 23:20.04 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, yes |
| 23:20.07 | blahdeblah | terr_: they're fine. Besides, pinging the name server would not work if outbound traffic were completely borked. I'm thinking there's just a missing DNS library somewhere |
| 23:20.09 | thewanderer1 | I was doing that on the same kernel, yes |
| 23:20.11 | amphi | linuxxx: I would give brcm80211 in the experimental kernel a try |
| 23:20.14 | thewanderer1 | try it with experimental |
| 23:20.33 | Grell | can anyone tell me if i can make a fresh install of wheezy from scratch, no upgrade, these netinst testing images point to the squeeze repository |
| 23:20.48 | xuser | QQQsdfasdf~ |
| 23:20.51 | terr_ | blahdeblah: I doubt it. Ping is already two way traffic. tcp/ip might not be running but it seems udp is |
| 23:21.16 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i try first brcm80211 in normal kernel and later in the experimental no? |
| 23:21.21 | thewanderer1 | blahdeblah: some guy recently had a similar DNS problem |
| 23:21.35 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, because when i tried brcm80211 i had wifi button disabled |
| 23:21.38 | thewanderer1 | blahdeblah: it was a missing library for him - check your client program with ldd and strace |
| 23:21.44 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: yeah |
| 23:21.58 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, and after that wl on experimental? |
| 23:22.02 | asdf | grumbles |
| 23:22.06 | blahdeblah | thewanderer1: yeah - doing that now |
| 23:22.08 | asdf | djsfoiefahjdsojxuser |
| 23:22.09 | terr_ | thewanderer1: how can the program load if there is a missing lib? |
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| 23:22.31 | thewanderer1 | terr_: dlopen() |
| 23:22.34 | StyXman | terr_: dlopen() |
| 23:22.37 | thewanderer1 | :P |
| 23:22.39 | terr_ | thewanderer1: next if it tries to load from a dll and the function is not there then why doesn't it issue a message? |
| 23:22.44 | sgn | Debian doesn't give my router (dnsmasq) it's hostname during DHCP request, that way internal DNS to the debians hostname fails. ideas? |
| 23:22.47 | thewanderer1 | terr_: bad programming |
| 23:22.58 | terr_ | thewanderer1: ya... exactly! |
| 23:23.55 | thewanderer1 | sgn: set up a mapping yourself: dhcp-host=de:ad:be:ef:00:01,192.168.0.50,madcow or sth like that |
| 23:23.59 | nevyn | sgn: in dhcpcd config there's a parameter something like send hostname |
| 23:24.34 | thewanderer1 | sgn: (my example was a server-side solution, nevyn talks about client-side) |
| 23:26.15 | jhutchins_lt | Grell: Afik wheezy doesn't have an installer yet. It's not released yet. |
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| 23:26.40 | thewanderer1 | Grell: isn't it possible to use Squeeze d-i to install testing? |
| 23:26.49 | sgn | I'll do it on the client (debian). Odd default behaviour, though? |
| 23:26.54 | thewanderer1 | I remember the installer asking me about which release I want to install |
| 23:27.16 | themill | (if you can't figure out how to do that yourself, you shouldn't be running wheezy) |
| 23:27.17 | thewanderer1 | sgn: some systems are configured to do that (FreeBSD), some are not (Debian) :P |
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| 23:30.14 | sgn | Alright, I'll try :) |
| 23:30.27 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, ooo my fucking god |
| 23:30.34 | thewanderer1 | w00t |
| 23:30.36 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, brcm80211 worked :) |
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| 23:30.43 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, dammmmm |
| 23:30.47 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: on which kernel? |
| 23:30.53 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, 2.6.35-5 |
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| 23:31.17 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: thanks for letting me know, will get 2.6.37 as soon as I get down to the usual kernel rotation |
| 23:31.28 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: wheezy isn't released yet, so ... |
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| 23:31.44 | thewanderer1 | jhutchins_lt: I know, so what? |
| 23:32.06 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, why 2.6.37?? it worked in 2.6.35 |
| 23:32.07 | jhutchins_lt | sgn: You can tell the dhcp client to procide the hostname in the dhclient.conf |
| 23:32.32 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: cause 2.6.37 is newer :P |
| 23:32.38 | jhutchins_lt | Numberitis. |
| 23:32.58 | thewanderer1 | although I have to admit that 2.6.37 is one of the poorer releases lately |
| 23:33.50 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, if i knowed that it was for the f***** button i will not have lost 6 hours :( |
| 23:34.13 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: took me a while to figure it out on my hardware too :P |
| 23:34.56 | thewanderer1 | hehe now sound is not working, how funny |
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| 23:35.37 | dvs | linuxxx: now, uninstall the button and.... :-> |
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| 23:36.50 | Rusty1_64 | is there a way to interrupt a netinst, seems to not be connecting to chosen mirror (two hours) |
| 23:36.55 | dvs | Why is 2.6.37 a "poor release"? I haven't had trouble with it. |
| 23:37.08 | thewanderer1 | dvs: breaks NFS server here at my systems |
| 23:37.18 | thewanderer1 | whereas 2.6.32 works |
| 23:37.22 | Galaxyqweb|emac | what is the mininum amount of hard drive space need to install debian? |
| 23:37.32 | thewanderer1 | dvs: poor idea - it might be disabled on its own :) |
| 23:37.32 | dvs | thewanderer1: Really, my NFS is working fine here. |
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| 23:37.40 | Iridos | Rusty1_64, just reboot and start over? |
| 23:37.45 | thewanderer1 | dvs: nfs-kernel-server on 2.6.37? |
| 23:38.00 | Galaxyqweb|emac | I think it is 10GB right? |
| 23:38.01 | dvs | thewanderer1: ah, the server, I'm using the client. |
| 23:38.40 | Rusty1_64 | Galaxyqweb|emac: http://www.debian.org/releases/2.1/i386/ch-hardware-req.en.html |
| 23:38.40 | valdyn | Galaxyqweb|emac: no, its much less |
| 23:38.42 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, iwlist scan give me wifi connections but if i use wicd it doesn't find any wifi connection |
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| 23:39.04 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, followed this tutorial http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wicd-forXfce.2CLXDE.2CFluxbox |
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| 23:39.26 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, the user i added to netdev group is root |
| 23:39.32 | StyXman | Galaxyqweb|emac: a non-development system with no docs or debugging symbols should go ok with 5GiB |
| 23:40.00 | StyXman | Galaxyqweb|emac: for comparisson, ubuntu base takes 3GiB |
| 23:40.01 | Galaxyqweb|emac | I am on a ppc doing a netinstall, guided |
| 23:40.01 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, wicd-client -n started as root user insted normal user |
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| 23:40.32 | Galaxyqweb|emac | I have 8GB but it says it is not enought |
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| 23:40.48 | thewanderer1 | linuxxx: you know, network-manager works on Xfce too |
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| 23:41.11 | linuxxx | thewanderer1, i have fluxbox |
| 23:41.25 | thewanderer1 | will work as well |
| 23:42.15 | StyXman | Galaxyqweb|emac: did you select a lot of things to install? my current setup uses less than 8GiB and I have *lots* of libraries and servers installed |
| 23:42.28 | Iridos | too late |
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| 23:44.57 | Iridos | Rusty1_64, that was for release 2.1, though |
| 23:45.12 | Iridos | Rusty1_64, "At this time (kernel version 2.0.36) the way you enable SMP is to edit the top-level Makefile for the kernel and uncomment the line that says SMP = 1." |
| 23:45.15 | Iridos | (ahem) |
| 23:45.41 | StyXman | heeh |
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| 23:47.08 | Rienzilla | Hmm |
| 23:48.07 | Iridos | correct document, wrong version... http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en |
| 23:48.24 | Iridos | or more to the point... http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds02.html.en |
| 23:48.38 | Rusty1_64 | Iridos: i place way too much faith in google, thx |
| 23:48.42 | Rienzilla | How does one combine smtp-time scanning with multiple mx'es without generating spam oneself |
| 23:50.05 | linuxxx | anybody knows how to start nodm as normal user? |
| 23:50.28 | Iridos | hm, interesting... so absolute minimum is 368 MB, a more real minimum is 532MB and the effing gnome needs more space than the effing KDE |
| 23:50.38 | Iridos | who'd thought that |
| 23:50.54 | nsi | hi |
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| 23:52.13 | sharp15 | so uh. any guesses an that notification window/popup? |
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| 23:52.59 | Iridos | sharp15, xwininfo/xprop are your friends |
| 23:53.53 | magicianlord | good day |
| 23:54.10 | magicianlord | is debian with openbox a good replacement on a netbook that has win 7 starter |
| 23:55.19 | Iridos | good for your soul? |
| 23:55.24 | BigRedS | magicianlord: it's quite reasonable. Not at all like Windows 7, though |
| 23:55.33 | magicianlord | im used to arch with ob |
| 23:55.47 | magicianlord | there is a nice netbok out wiht a 9 hour battery life i want ot pick up |
| 23:55.53 | BigRedS | arch is a debianish fork isn't it? |
| 23:55.55 | docelic_ | Hey folks, what's up with the preseed file and the root password? I define passwd/root-password-crypted and looking at the debconf debug, it is read and set, but then the installer anyway goes to interactively ask me about the root password |
| 23:55.57 | magicianlord | i want to wipe win 7 off it |
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| 23:56.10 | magicianlord | BigRedS: no |
| 23:56.12 | pepperjack | magician, might look into crunchbang I think they use openbox and debian repos now? |
| 23:56.15 | sharp15 | Iridos: it's a kde notification window. i want to know what caused it. xprop isn't going to help me. |
| 23:56.38 | magicianlord | pepperjack: yes, i know about them. id rather load ob right from the net install though. they do too much customization i do no like |
| 23:57.00 | Iridos | sharp15, are you saying kde doesn't fork processes off for the different tasks like gnome does (and pretty much everything else)? |
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| 23:57.30 | Iridos | sharp15, I would say it helps you identify the process connected to it and then you can google for the name |
| 23:57.32 | themill | sharp15: update-notifier-kde generated that notification |
| 23:57.35 | magicianlord | does linux have any issue with intel 3150 graphics |
| 23:57.43 | BigRedS | magicianlord: no, I just looked, not sure why I thought that... |
| 23:57.44 | magicianlord | also, is the 1.66 intel atom compatible with 64 bit |
| 23:57.55 | nevyn | magicianlord: is that the hybrid switcharoo stuff? |
| 23:58.03 | magicianlord | no, it's just intel hd graphis |
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| 23:59.35 | sharp15 | Iridos: something else told one of kde's processes to generate that window. xprop is useless here. |
| 23:59.38 | sharp15 | themill: thank you. |
| 23:59.41 | magicianlord | http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/1944/1944065le.jpg |
| 23:59.45 | magicianlord | that's the netbook |
