| 00:00.19 | smacnay | balleyne, if you use skype in Debian, there is no 64bit version in the repository. |
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| 00:01.14 | Redmono | is skype on the debian repo ? |
| 00:01.23 | nkuttler | don't think so |
| 00:01.35 | smacnay | no |
| 00:01.35 | nkuttler | balleyne: skype runs just fine on amd64 |
| 00:01.36 | smacnay | sorry |
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| 00:01.45 | smacnay | You need to get it from skype |
| 00:01.54 | balleyne | smacnay, nkuttler: thanks for the heads up |
| 00:02.09 | smacnay | nkuttler, how did you install the 32 bit version of skype on Deb 64? |
| 00:02.45 | nkuttler | i think you just need the 32bit libc or somesuch |
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| 00:02.59 | nkuttler | if at all. i got the statically linked skype |
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| 00:03.15 | pickcoder | the package is ia32-libs IIRC |
| 00:03.35 | pickcoder | !version ia32-libs |
| 00:03.41 | pickcoder | ~version ia32-libs |
| 00:03.43 | pickcoder | meh |
| 00:03.45 | nkuttler | yeah, that's probably needed |
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| 00:04.06 | pickcoder | bbl |
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| 00:04.15 | Arrowmaster | lenswipe: cheap RAM? my 6gigs only shows up as 6121868 kB or 5.84GiB |
| 00:04.28 | lenswipe | hmm |
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| 00:04.42 | lenswipe | could be.. |
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| 00:05.22 | Arrowmaster | i assumed it was because i bought cheap ram since i thought ram was always to be measured in base2 and not base10 like harddrive manufactures like to do |
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| 00:15.21 | octavio-rdz | hi, room I am using debian sid (lmde source list updated) and I am not able to switch user, the desktop is gnome, does any one know how to fix this? |
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| 00:24.36 | themill | octavio-rdz: if you're using lmde then you're not using debian. Please try #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org. |
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| 00:31.03 | ram0 | Hello channel ops! I was disconnected from the channel after a ping timeout and the client seems to not connected automatically with the following error: '#debian: Cannot join channel (+l) - channel is full, try again later'. It's my first time having encountered this. What would you say? |
| 00:31.33 | dondelelcaro | ram0: you're here now; occasionally we reach the limit until it gets reset |
| 00:32.40 | ram0 | dondelelcaro: Hmm, so I should leave to my chance I guess, right? |
| 00:33.02 | dvs | says "Darn it! My plan didn't work!" |
| 00:33.03 | dondelelcaro | ram0: normally you won't have a problem; it just happens at some periods (or for example, when the channel is under attack). Just wait, and try again |
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| 00:33.44 | ram0 | dondelelcaro: Gotcha, thank you! |
| 00:33.59 | dondelelcaro | np |
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| 00:37.12 | catsup | does anyone know, what is the smallest 'vi' implementation in debian? |
| 00:37.50 | catsup | i mean on-disk size |
| 00:38.24 | ram0 | dondelelcaro: Well, perhaps I should make another point clearer for myself. Does that have anything to do with being a registered user or a guest? (My nicks are registered to 'the server' anyway) |
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| 00:41.52 | woonix | catsup: Why are you concerned about disk size, I'm curious? |
| 00:42.13 | dondelelcaro | ram0: nope |
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| 00:43.31 | ram0 | dondelelcaro: Thanks again. (I just noticed that it is '#debian-overflow' atm.) |
| 00:43.54 | catsup | woonix: putting it on initrd |
| 00:44.23 | catsup | for debugging initrd scripts |
| 00:44.40 | catsup | i found elvis-tiny at 2MB |
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| 00:44.44 | catsup | (including libs) |
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| 00:48.14 | dondelelcaro | catsup: there's also vim-tiny |
| 00:48.26 | catsup | that's 8MB |
| 00:48.39 | dondelelcaro | you'd use the libc6-udeb |
| 00:48.43 | catsup | oh wait no |
| 00:48.47 | catsup | nvi was 8MB |
| 00:48.59 | dondelelcaro | vim-tiny is what we distribute in d-i |
| 00:49.20 | catsup | vim-tiny -s 2.3MB |
| 00:49.23 | catsup | is |
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| 00:50.07 | woonix | catsup: Another package that may be of interest is busybox-static, which gives you dozens of common unix utilities (including vi) in a single executable. No lib dependencies. |
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| 00:50.36 | catsup | i already have busybox on there |
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| 00:51.26 | dolphin_noel_ | Hello :) |
| 00:51.32 | woonix | dolphin_noel_: Hi! |
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| 00:53.08 | dolphin_noel_ | I'm sorry about the question but, i'm having some troubles to put my cube working in my recent debian squeeze instalation i'm only get to have 2 works spaces so cant make one cube, any idea how to resolve this? |
| 00:53.42 | dolphin_noel_ | Hello woonix :) |
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| 00:55.09 | wissem | i just tried this command echo powersave | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu{0,1}/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 00:55.16 | wissem | any idea how to undo it ?? |
| 00:56.31 | woonix | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors |
| 00:56.44 | woonix | choose which one you want, and then echo that into scaling_governor to change it. |
| 00:57.05 | woonix | The default is ondemand |
| 00:57.31 | woonix | sudo echo ondemand | /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu{0,1}/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 00:58.10 | woonix | or whatever |
| 00:58.31 | Devastator | shouldn't be > instead of |? |
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| 00:58.37 | catsup | eh |
| 00:58.41 | woonix | yeah |
| 00:58.46 | catsup | that won't work anyway, you have to do the tee thing |
| 00:58.51 | simonrvn | sudo sh -c "/bin/echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu{0,1}/cpufreq/scaling_governor" |
| 00:58.58 | catsup | or that |
| 00:59.06 | Devastator | heh |
| 00:59.12 | Devastator | simon saved the day |
| 00:59.15 | Devastator | or night :P |
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| 00:59.32 | woonix | he can't sit by and watch ppl give out bad commands |
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| 00:59.42 | Devastator | true.. |
| 00:59.49 | catsup | i like wissem's version |
| 01:00.00 | simonrvn | nah. anyone can do that. it's just that on the other side of that | or > you need proper privs |
| 01:00.15 | simonrvn | that's what wissem was trying to do |
| 01:00.28 | catsup | wissem did it right |
| 01:00.49 | simonrvn | yup. s/he didn't know what the default is |
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| 01:01.29 | simonrvn | i just noticed woonix's comment about 'available' |
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| 01:02.08 | catsup | erm wait what |
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| 01:02.35 | catsup | the > won't work because there's a {0,1} in there |
| 01:02.39 | simonrvn | i'd try it, but i don't have that ;) |
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| 01:03.00 | simonrvn | a proper shell will support that no? |
| 01:03.00 | woonix | I guess the tee is needed because you are writing to two files |
| 01:03.22 | catsup | what shell supports that? |
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| 01:03.29 | simonrvn | zsh |
| 01:03.30 | catsup | not bash |
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| 01:03.45 | catsup | unless it's new |
| 01:03.53 | simonrvn | bash does too, iirc, but you'll need some setopt |
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| 01:04.32 | Arrowmaster | ok this is thoroughly confusing me, i have 3 files with what appears to be exactly the same characters in the filename upto a point where they are numbered using roman numerals, so I II and III, but they are being sorted I III II and i cant figure out why |
| 01:05.18 | Arrowmaster | yet i have another set of 6 files using roman numerals in the filenames and they sort fine |
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| 01:05.43 | woonix | sorted by what? A file manager, or a ls command? |
| 01:05.51 | Arrowmaster | ls |
| 01:07.03 | Arrowmaster | the only difference i can think of is that the first set of 3 that isnt sorting properly is using _ as a delimiter in the name and the set of 6 that is sorting properly is using . as a delimiter |
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| 01:07.30 | woonix | Can you give a few real examples? |
| 01:08.37 | woonix | You could do a ls and pipe it to sort to confirm that either ls is doing something strange or else that it is sorting it correctly based on the characters involved. |
| 01:09.10 | Arrowmaster | piping to sort is giving the strange order too |
| 01:09.27 | catsup | sounds like you're sorting it wrong in your head :p |
| 01:09.48 | Arrowmaster | how can i check for certain that there arent any strange characters in the names |
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| 01:12.46 | Arrowmaster | ok piping to LC_ALL=C sort puts them in reverse order |
| 01:12.55 | Arrowmaster | which is acceptable i guess |
| 01:13.22 | woonix | You could convert the filename to hex and look up each character in a table |
| 01:14.39 | catsup | heh |
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| 01:14.58 | catsup | i like to pipe to sed -nel |
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| 01:19.41 | wolfric | I want to have 3 different web setups (with possibly different versions of apache,php and mysql) running multiple setups on a number of machines (so all 3 on machine 'A' and all 3 on machine 'B'). What would be the best way to segment them so that they cannot interact with each other (for example, one setup cannot contact the mysql instance of another, and cannot access any files of another) |
| 01:20.03 | wolfric | i assume i can just chroot php and apache? |
| 01:20.34 | BlackFate | and mysql |
| 01:21.25 | wolfric | BlackFate: but chrooting mysql wouldn't stop one instance from connecting to another instances mysql though would it? |
| 01:21.50 | dolphin_noel_ | vismundCygnus maby i shoud try the "alternated install" |
| 01:22.16 | Arrowmaster | AH HA |
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| 01:22.38 | Arrowmaster | i figured it out, it seems to be flat out ignoring certain characters for sorting |
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| 01:23.01 | BlackFate | wolfric, i dont think chroot is the way to go. You should consider a more jailed solution like openVZ |
| 01:23.07 | katsrc | why are people so suprised to find out debian ships proprietary software? |
| 01:23.12 | woonix | Interesting. I've never heard of ls ignoring characters. |
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| 01:23.16 | wolfric | BlackFate: i was actually considering that |
| 01:23.22 | wolfric | BlackFate: haven't got around to reading how it works |
| 01:23.31 | dolphin_noel_ | opsss "sorry" roung place... try to resolve 2 things in 2 sides |
| 01:23.50 | Arrowmaster | i tested it with `touch _Movie_I_-_Ignition_ _Movie_II_-_Maelstrom_ _Movie_III_-_Truth_Dawn_ ; ls -1` |
| 01:24.01 | Arrowmaster | which is just part of the file names |
| 01:24.17 | wolfric | BlackFate: do you happen to know of a program that would easily copy in dependencies of a program to a folder for chroot if i decided to go down that road |
| 01:25.13 | BlackFate | wolfric, you can use debootstrap and just aptitude install anything you like |
| 01:25.38 | wolfric | BlackFate: just googled debootstrap, that looks great |
| 01:25.40 | wolfric | cheers |
| 01:26.15 | woonix | katsrc: what software? |
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| 01:29.08 | Kenick | hey there... |
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| 01:30.18 | Kenick | i'd like to modify the kernel which i am currently running...since ive got exactly this problem: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-eeepc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org/msg02975.html |
| 01:30.29 | Kenick | does anyone know how i can do that? |
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| 01:34.20 | dolphin_noel_ | Do you guys have some good tuturial to install the nvidia driver to debian squeeze...? |
| 01:34.27 | katsrc | woonix: the kernel |
| 01:34.34 | Arrowmaster | !nvidia dkms |
| 01:34.34 | dpkg | For Squeeze users. Ensure you have <non-free sources> added. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx>. |
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| 01:35.02 | dolphin_noel_ | Thank you :) |
| 01:37.28 | woonix | katsrc: My understanding is that the kernel shipped with 6.0 is Free according to Debian guidelines |
| 01:38.34 | Arrowmaster | there is nothing proprietary in the main section |
| 01:38.41 | Arrowmaster | it was all moved to non-free |
| 01:38.58 | woonix | Kenick: I don't have any comment about the problem you are having, but I can give you a link to info on building a custom kernel: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html |
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| 01:43.45 | Stefunel | Guys, where can I find cdrecord? |
| 01:43.52 | xk | its called wodim |
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| 01:44.40 | Stefunel | thanks xk |
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| 01:50.08 | belak | What server comes with the "Web server" option? |
| 01:50.35 | iAmerikan | I think they all do iirc |
| 01:50.53 | belak | In the "software selection" on the install cd? |
| 01:50.57 | belak | I sure hope not |
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| 01:53.50 | rww | belak: pretty sure it's apache2 |
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| 01:59.14 | Stefunel | guys, how do I secure erase an intel ssd? HDD erase does not work from DOS. I want to secure erase to port my debian install to it and also to restore some of it's performance because it is very degraded now. |
| 02:01.03 | xk | Stefunel: there's a package called wipe. |
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| 02:08.10 | mattmatteh | Stefunel: how would a secure erase fix degraded preformace ? |
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| 02:09.40 | Stefunel | mattmatteh, my ssd became fragmented over time and the performance has dropped quite a bit |
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| 02:10.13 | mattmatteh | Stefunel: if thats file system fragmentation then reformatting will fix that |
| 02:10.15 | xk | probably no TRIM support? |
| 02:10.33 | Stefunel | xk, it has trim support |
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| 02:10.42 | xk | the hardware or the kernel? |
| 02:10.45 | mattmatteh | Stefunel: are seriously using dos ? |
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| 02:11.06 | Stefunel | xk, the hardware |
| 02:11.16 | xk | it needs to be supported by the kernel |
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| 02:11.39 | Stefunel | I used it for my windows 7 install, but i switched to linux completely and now I want to port my debian install to it |
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| 02:12.03 | mattmatteh | Stefunel: i think wiping it with zeros should be sufficient |
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| 02:14.12 | Stefunel | mattmatteh, not sure about that |
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| 02:14.40 | homie | oink oink |
| 02:14.43 | mattmatteh | Stefunel: why not |
| 02:15.14 | goose | <joke> Someone told me to update my server with "dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda bs=1M" as root. Now I can't log into my server. :( </joke> |
| 02:16.02 | Stefunel | mattmatteh, don't have a good answer for that, but it just seems not right :) |
| 02:16.26 | redbeans | lmao |
| 02:16.28 | redbeans | goose |
| 02:16.54 | goose | :) |
| 02:16.59 | mattmatteh | Stefunel: i suppose i could be wrong in for the case of SSD, but for mechanical disks that works fine, unless you really want to hide data. but if you wanted to hide data, i dont think you would put it on an SSD since i read thats hard to really delete |
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| 02:17.06 | goose | it's just as good as my version (ctcp) reply |
| 02:17.11 | redbeans | encrypt it |
| 02:18.40 | jhutchins_lt | Microwave the ssd for 15 minutes at full powwer. |
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| 02:20.00 | karsten-nr | There's been some recent rumbling about difficulties in securely wiping SSDs IIRC. Not sure how much credence to put in it. |
| 02:21.25 | belak | mattmatteh: why are you in debian? :P |
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| 02:22.45 | Stefunel | I am not sure what to do |
| 02:22.53 | mattmatteh | belak: thought i would try it |
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| 02:23.38 | mattmatteh | belak: installed debian kfreebsd the other day, and grub 2 just totally messed up my boot laoder. so i had to put grub 1 back on, and now i cant boot to debian kfreebsd |
| 02:23.41 | mattmatteh | sooo lame |
| 02:24.23 | xk | is ipfw included with kfreebsd? |
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| 02:26.43 | Stefunel | thanks guys for the ideas, I am off to bed now ... 4 am here |
| 02:28.00 | jellow | I want to run this command "echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only" , How do I go about it? |
| 02:28.13 | jellow | I want to run it at boot |
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| 02:33.08 | simonrvn | my install of epiphany-browser is having issues connecting to a web site on our network that happens to have a public ipv6 address. the thing keeps telling me it can't connect to it, even though it connects fine to the ipv4 address for the same site. anyone seen this, and should i file a bug? |
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| 02:36.20 | homie | alien-arena is soo brainwashed lol |
| 02:39.15 | kdog | I've just upgraded to squeeze and now libdevmapper1.02.1 is being held back and if I don't hold it then apt-get wants to remove lilo. How do I get libdevmapper1.02.1 updated? |
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| 02:50.17 | homie | kdog: it maybe held back by aptitude |
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| 02:52.51 | kdog | homie: yeah. I usually use aptitude. I sure don't want it uninstalling lilo. |
| 02:53.14 | un214 | uninstall lilo and the system still boots |
| 02:53.21 | un214 | unlike grub |
| 02:53.33 | un214 | the lilo package doesn't own any boot criticial files |
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| 03:01.12 | kdog | well. I let it uninstall libmapper and lilo and tried to reinstall lilo. it said it would remove an old kernel (no problem). but now lilo and initramfs-tools are partially installed. |
| 03:01.41 | kdog | the failing lilo error is: Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda") |
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| 03:02.02 | kdog | probably because of the new device naming, eh? |
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| 03:02.25 | kdog | since mount reports /dev/sda |
| 03:03.16 | un214 | hmmm |
| 03:03.23 | un214 | /etc/lilo.conf is probably bad |
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| 03:04.50 | kdog | this device crap is a pain. I've got another server booting with grub and that is partially installed as well, with the same sort of problem. Grr. |
| 03:05.02 | kdog | I'll look at lilo.conf |
| 03:05.55 | un214 | if it becomes too much trouble you can do what an old distro did |
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| 03:07.06 | un214 | huh |
| 03:07.09 | un214 | /boot had a /boot/etc/lilo.conf and a /boot/dev which contained lilo's devices and ran lilo -C to install |
| 03:07.12 | kdog | lilo.conf shows boot=/dev/hda and root=<big UUID string> |
| 03:07.23 | kdog | shouldn't boot be /dev/sda now? |
| 03:07.27 | un214 | yes |
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| 03:08.58 | un214 | I've had much better luck with lilo then grub |
| 03:10.45 | kdog | holy cow, changing that one "h" to "s" fixed it. aptitude finished configuring it and all is good. |
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| 03:11.18 | homie | jep |
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| 03:11.30 | homie | it's all about hda->sda etc... |
| 03:11.33 | kdog | un214: thanks for the help. At least I didn't bang my head for a half hour to find I missed a ")" in php like yesterday :-P |
| 03:11.58 | kdog | Now to get mediawiki to show me some love |
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| 03:18.01 | kdog | I shouldn't have mentioned PHP. Mediawiki has a syntax error: unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM |
| 03:18.39 | kdog | I googled that and there is a reference to Hebrew for two colons. This isn't good :-/ |
| 03:18.44 | kdog | chuckles |
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| 03:21.02 | dataworm | With Debian Sqeeze how do you specify boot param for installation? |
| 03:21.52 | un214 | I think you tweek the boot config from the ide |
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| 03:22.08 | dataworm | ? |
| 03:22.11 | un214 | homie: I wish it was sda-> hda |
| 03:22.26 | un214 | oops boot cd |
| 03:22.32 | un214 | wow bad thinko |
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| 03:24.16 | un214 | how do I create a file in /dev that doesn't get deleted every reboot |
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| 03:25.29 | poison | easy rewrite your default runlevel |
| 03:25.30 | tharkun | un214: long process to understand but you can begin with man udeb |
| 03:25.42 | tharkun | s/udeb/udev/ |
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| 03:28.06 | un214 | I really don't think udev knows about non-devices |
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| 03:29.13 | catsup | un214: the entire /dev is probably a tmpfs that exists only in memory and cannot survive boot, however you can remake the node at boot |
| 03:29.38 | un214 | not a bad idea |
| 03:30.00 | catsup | why are you doing that |
| 03:31.02 | un214 | personally, because I kind of like having /dev populated when I chroot in |
| 03:31.19 | un214 | which come to think of it, populating at boot won't help |
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| 03:33.05 | catsup | um |
| 03:33.18 | catsup | you want /dev in a chroot? |
| 03:33.20 | catsup | use mount --bind |
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| 03:35.32 | un214 | my old ubuntu install had a bunch of stuff in /etc/rc.local that rewrote /dev |
| 03:36.02 | un214 | an even older install I ripped out udev, which I ended up regretting |
| 03:36.10 | catsup | yes |
| 03:36.20 | catsup | udev is necessary, and besides, the most awesome thing ever |
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| 03:36.37 | un214 | /dev being tmpfs is not |
| 03:37.06 | catsup | why |
| 03:37.13 | catsup | (well it doesn't have to be. just edit fstab) |
| 03:37.26 | un214 | catsup: you definitely haven't tried that |
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| 03:37.37 | un214 | the system mounts / rw too late |
| 03:37.45 | catsup | oh right of course |
| 03:37.51 | catsup | well |
| 03:38.03 | catsup | you're talking about one particular edit |
| 03:38.17 | catsup | you could make /dev an ext2 partition or something |
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| 03:38.34 | tensorpudding | how do you build a package that you've modified from source? |
| 03:38.47 | tensorpudding | i figure it has something with dpkg-deb but i can't figure it |
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| 03:38.50 | un214 | considering /dev isn't even /etc/fstab I'm sure that doesn't work |
| 03:39.08 | catsup | tensorpudding: dch -i; dpkg-buildpackge -rfakeroot -- is one way |
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| 03:39.18 | catsup | buildpackage |
| 03:39.59 | tensorpudding | what's dch -i do? |
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| 03:41.12 | catsup | edit the changelog |
| 03:41.27 | catsup | and increase the package version |
| 03:41.44 | catsup | so you can document your changes |
| 03:42.02 | catsup | optional, of course |
| 03:42.24 | tensorpudding | my goal was to update a package to a newer version so i could package it on my ppa |
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| 03:44.17 | tensorpudding | i use ubuntu but the packaging seems to be handled by debian |
| 03:44.32 | catsup | un214: quite right, my mistake. it's mounted in /etc/init.d/udev. you can edit that script |
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| 03:47.43 | un214 | actually I just figured out |
| 03:47.57 | un214 | 1. tar /dev to /tmp |
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| 03:48.06 | un214 | 2. mount -M /dev /mnt |
| 03:48.09 | un214 | 3. untar /dev |
| 03:48.14 | un214 | 4. mount -M /mnt /dev |
| 03:48.22 | un214 | problem solved |
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| 03:48.47 | un214 | (repeat after adding hardware) |
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| 03:49.28 | un214 | tensorpudding: not really |
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| 03:49.44 | tensorpudding | not really what? |
| 03:50.06 | un214 | they branced from debian 2 years ago |
| 03:50.20 | un214 | or was it even more |
| 03:50.30 | un214 | they're not at all compatible anymore |
| 03:50.41 | tensorpudding | this package that i'm updating was created and is maintained by debian |
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| 03:51.47 | un214 | the core packages are handled by ubuntu and don't mix with those by debian |
| 03:51.55 | un214 | ubuntu redid the whole boot sequence (ick) |
| 03:52.16 | tensorpudding | yes, i'm aware that there are differences |
| 03:52.29 | tensorpudding | this particular program was packaged before ubuntu even existed, apparently |
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| 03:53.35 | tensorpudding | unfortunately it's lagging the most recent upstream stable, and i've run into a version mismatch between my ubuntu machine and my bsd fileserver which has updated, so i want to update ubuntu to the new stable |
| 03:54.07 | somiaj | using an older dh_make to create my own deb from source, the command I use to use was 'dh_make -n -b -s', but now it errors out with 'b no such option', this use to work so I was wondering what that old option use to be? |
| 03:54.20 | tensorpudding | annoyingly it's probably too late to update the version for natty |
| 03:54.26 | somiaj | (it seems to work jsut fine if i remove the -b option, just wondering what it use to do) |
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| 03:56.47 | wobblyonions | Hi all, anyone here got freeradius working with mysql at all? |
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| 03:57.13 | Haraken | how do i specify in my preseed to use lenny instead of squeeze? |
| 03:57.42 | somiaj | Haraken: modify your /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update, or aptitude update |
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| 03:57.55 | Haraken | I need to install lenny for some software compatibility and prior to squeeze becoming stable it would just default to lenny. now it defaults to the new stable |
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| 03:58.17 | somiaj | Haraken: if you use the code name 'lenny' it will always be lenny (until its obsolte instead of just old stable) |
| 03:58.19 | Haraken | somiaj, well I'm trying to do it on a fresh install via pxe. I have a preseed setup to use debian mirrors |
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| 03:58.44 | somiaj | Haraken: 'stable' will always link to the current stable tree. You won't be able to downgrade, and you'll probabaly have to look into the old stable installer now |
| 03:59.10 | somiaj | afiak the old stable will still be on the mirrors for about a year, but maybe I'm just thinking security updates. |
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| 03:59.31 | un214 | so the master isn't around forever |
| 03:59.45 | somiaj | Haraken: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable |
| 03:59.55 | Haraken | somiaj, ah ok I think i see the option i need in the preseed file. #d-i mirror/suite string <blah> |
| 04:00.09 | Haraken | gonna give it a try, thanks |
| 04:00.19 | somiaj | Haraken: yea I guess I don't know to much about preseed, I just use debootstrap or a netinstall cd |
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| 04:00.43 | Haraken | was a bit shocked when my lenny installer started to install squeeze instead hehe |
| 04:01.15 | somiaj | yea pay attention to the sources, just make sure it says 'lenny' or 'oldstable', the instller may just default to stable so people get updated without having to change thigns |
| 04:01.18 | un214 | so now you've really got me curious |
| 04:01.33 | somiaj | I personally only try to use the code name and not stable,testing etc in my sources.list |
| 04:01.39 | Haraken | me too |
| 04:01.40 | un214 | it is possible to pull arbitrary old branches (I'm assuming they're not updated) |
| 04:01.49 | Haraken | I didn't have it specified before so I guess stable was the default for preseed configs |
| 04:01.51 | somiaj | un214: archive.debian.org |
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| 04:02.44 | un214 | yup there they are |
| 04:03.29 | somiaj | un214: only issue with them is a security stand point, and of coures they may be so old that current apps not in the repos won't be able to run easily |
| 04:03.52 | somiaj | but everything in the repo's will work just fine minus being secure |
| 04:04.14 | Haraken | I can't stand using old distros for that reason, but sometimes customers just don't want to update their stuff to work with the new stable revisions |
| 04:04.23 | Haraken | I have one guy that still uses fedora 7 on all of his new servers |
| 04:04.27 | un214 | Only reason to use them would be old hardware |
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| 04:04.55 | un214 | since a 20mb /boot doesn't hold one kernel anymore |
| 04:05.17 | somiaj | well you can still make your kernels fairly small, but the default ones no |
| 04:05.34 | belak | What's the command to edit what will run on certain runlevels? |
| 04:05.43 | un214 | mv |
| 04:05.48 | somiaj | my kernels use to be around 700k, not they are abotu 2meg, since I started rolling my own years ago |
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| 04:05.53 | Haraken | update-rc.d? |
| 04:06.05 | somiaj | Haraken: correct |
| 04:06.13 | Haraken | :) |
| 04:06.21 | Haraken | I like chkconfig better, but that's a redhat thing |
| 04:06.25 | un214 | isn't that what updates the cache afterwords |
| 04:06.31 | somiaj | belak: the command Haraken stated will allow you to automically modify the links, or you can just manually add/remove links from /etc/rc?.d |
| 04:06.40 | belak | Haraken: thanks, I was trying rc-update |
| 04:06.41 | belak | lol |
| 04:06.54 | somiaj | un214: no it just edits the links in the different run levels to the init scripts in /etc/init.d/ |
| 04:06.57 | Haraken | belak, I like tab completion for stuff like that. I'm also missing something simple |
| 04:06.57 | s3phir0th115 | Can anyone suggest any decent recovery tools? |
| 04:07.08 | un214 | I use CD1 |
| 04:07.21 | Haraken | I used knoppix for basic live o/s stuff |
| 04:07.24 | s3phir0th115 | I wanted to get this old drive copied to its replacement. I started using dd_rescue, but I'm not sure how good it is? |
| 04:07.24 | somiaj | s3phir0th115: recovery in what sense? |
| 04:07.53 | s3phir0th115 | Get what I can from one hard drive onto its replacement somiaj |
| 04:07.58 | somiaj | s3phir0th115: is the data corrupted maybe the drive is bad, probbaly best to just try to get the data off of it, and do a fresh install on your new drive |
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| 04:08.16 | s3phir0th115 | Oh, I know it's bad. I have it's RMA here |
| 04:08.18 | somiaj | s3phir0th115: as for software that will recover data from a bad drive, I don't know of any -- and of course it depends on what is bad with the drive. |
| 04:08.21 | s3phir0th115 | Several tools declared it bad |
| 04:08.28 | un214 | I'd assume dd_rescue works until proven otherwise |
| 04:08.38 | yitz_ | Is there any way to get bash 4.0 on Debian 5 without reinstalling half the system? |
| 04:08.49 | mattmatteh | where does debian put core.img for grub2 ? |
| 04:08.55 | un214 | apt-get build-dep bash |
| 04:08.56 | somiaj | s3phir0th115: can you even see the drive on a running system, enough to mount it. If not I don't know what to tell you. |
| 04:08.59 | un214 | download source and build |
| 04:09.12 | wobblyonions | anyone here using freeradius combined with mysql at all? |
| 04:09.13 | somiaj | mattmatteh: /boot/grub |
| 04:09.19 | mattmatteh | somiaj: nope, not there |
| 04:09.26 | s3phir0th115 | It doesn't click, takes forever to mount if it does, usually have to do it manually in Linux, but it's automatic in Windows. |
| 04:09.26 | somiaj | rww: |
| 04:09.32 | rww | somiaj: hi |
| 04:09.35 | s3phir0th115 | When Debian boots it complains about bad sectors |
| 04:09.36 | Haraken | back when i first started using linux I didn't know about package managers, I spent days on end compiling software in slackware for my home desktop pc |
| 04:09.39 | somiaj | rww: bad tab (: |
| 04:09.45 | somiaj | mattmatteh: that is where it is on my stytem |
| 04:09.46 | rww | k |
| 04:09.49 | somiaj | mattmatteh: system (: |
| 04:10.19 | s3phir0th115 | I've had about 113000 k of bad sectors so far |
| 04:10.27 | s3phir0th115 | 48256 k successful |
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| 04:10.48 | s3phir0th115 | So I don't know. I hope I have some good sectors at more than just that start area |
| 04:10.52 | somiaj | s3phir0th115: ouchy, well best of luck, I usually just call data lost at that point. |
| 04:10.56 | yitz_ | Thanks un214 |
| 04:11.05 | mattmatteh | somiaj: how large is your core.img ? |
| 04:11.23 | s3phir0th115 | I havne't had good luck with Wii hard drives... |
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| 04:11.31 | s3phir0th115 | Second one to fail on me |
| 04:11.31 | Haraken | bleh it still installed squeeze *shakes fist* |
| 04:11.32 | cantido | s3phir0th115: modern drviers remap sectors .. |
| 04:11.51 | cantido | s3phir0th115: wii harddrives? |
| 04:11.52 | crapeau | s3phir0th115: from my experience dd_rescue is the best tool for your problem |
| 04:11.56 | somiaj | mattmatteh: 24K |
| 04:12.18 | mattmatteh | somiaj: i have kernel.img that is 29128 bytes |
| 04:12.25 | s3phir0th115 | Yeah. You can load games from usb hard drive on a wii with the right hacks cantido |
| 04:12.28 | mattmatteh | somiaj: what other img files do you have ? |
| 04:12.31 | cantido | s/drviers/drives/ |
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| 04:12.51 | cantido | s3phir0th115: yeah I know that.. I just didnt know there was a specific brand or anything |
| 04:12.55 | somiaj | mattmatteh: ls /boot/grub/ | wc -l -- 197 (lots) |
| 04:13.12 | mattmatteh | somiaj: those are grub modules and img files |
| 04:13.21 | mattmatteh | somiaj: ls /boot/grub/*.img |
| 04:13.25 | somiaj | mattmatteh: I guess, grub just works for me, so I leave it alone |
| 04:13.40 | mattmatteh | somiaj: well i got other OSs i want to boot. |
| 04:13.47 | somiaj | mattmatteh: for images, there is a boot, cdboot, core, diskboot, kernel, glldr, lnxboot, pxeboot |
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| 04:14.03 | mattmatteh | somiaj: and right now i am locked out of debian in my attempt to fix that. right now it seems to be other OSs or debian, but not both |
| 04:14.09 | Haraken | somiaj, seems someone else is having this problem as well... their solution doesn't seem to be as clean as I had hoped however http://serverfault.com/questions/237819/debian-installer-how-to-preseed-a-lenny-oldstable-installation |
| 04:14.16 | somiaj | mattmatteh: yea I haven't done dual booting since lilo, really I don't know to much about grub, I went with the switch and just let it do its thing. |
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| 04:14.38 | mattmatteh | somiaj: well this is more than dual boot, more like multiboot |
| 04:14.42 | cantido | osprober should find the other oses and add them to debian's grub.. |
| 04:14.59 | mattmatteh | cantido: that finds other kernels to load, but cant sucessfully boot any |
| 04:15.03 | cantido | ofcourse, you have to make sure the other operating systems dont overwrite the mbr |
| 04:15.06 | somiaj | mattmatteh: yea as I said, I just use debootstrap to make my virtial images. |
| 04:15.27 | cantido | mattmatteh: what are the other kernels? other linux distros? |
| 04:15.37 | somiaj | Haraken: ^^ my last comment was to you |
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| 04:16.40 | Haraken | somiaj, i think missed it... could you repaste it |
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| 04:16.46 | mattmatteh | somiaj: not familiar with that. really new to debian |
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| 04:16.52 | somiaj | Haraken: yea as I said, I just use debootstrap to make my virtial images. |
| 04:17.00 | Haraken | ah |
| 04:17.06 | somiaj | mattmatteh: that comment wasn't for you. debootstrap just downloads a base system and puts it on your hard drive |
| 04:17.14 | cantido | somiaj: "virtual images"> |
| 04:17.23 | cantido | s/>/?/ |
| 04:17.28 | cantido | you mean chroots? |
| 04:17.35 | somiaj | cantido: I use it to make them for the amazon cloud, for say xen, vmware, etc... |
| 04:18.03 | somiaj | cantido: you can use it to make various chroots as well, but images and virtual machines are a bit different. |
| 04:18.03 | pthomas_ | is there a way to tell dpkg not to configure a package right not, it wants to configure dash, but fails preventing any packages from being installed? |
| 04:18.07 | cantido | if you just need a rootfs debootstrap works.. getting a bootloader installed is a different matter though ;) |
| 04:18.46 | pthomas_ | yeah debootstrap and multistrap are very minimal |
| 04:18.50 | mattmatteh | somiaj: ohhhh |
| 04:18.52 | mattmatteh | :P |
| 04:19.04 | pthomas_ | you don't even get an inittab or any device nodes |
| 04:19.16 | cantido | pthomas_: any basically unconfigured.. i.e. no fstab |
| 04:19.26 | mattmatteh | cantido: yes, other linux distros. and my first debian is kfreebsd, havent installed debian linux yet |
| 04:19.27 | cantido | pthomas_: inittab is there, device nodes should come from udev |
| 04:19.40 | mattmatteh | that was next after i figure out the bootloader issue |
| 04:19.44 | pthomas_ | yeah but udev isn't installed by default with debootstrap |
| 04:19.46 | mattmatteh | steps away |
| 04:19.51 | cantido | mattmatteh: mmm does kfreebsd use grub as its loader? |
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| 04:20.40 | cantido | though that you got a least a base /dev with the basefiles package or something |
| 04:20.49 | pthomas_ | candido, were you responding wo my question about leaving dash unconfigured? |
| 04:20.53 | somiaj | pthomas_: dash is the default shell that debian uses for its scripts, such as install/remove scripts. You may have more issues than just dash not being configured. I'd fix that. |
| 04:22.03 | pthomas_ | somiaj, yeah this is a fresh chroot after multistrap, but I can't do anything until dpkg thinks dash is configured |
| 04:22.47 | somiaj | sounds like something went wrong, you can probabaly change the default shell that is being used, but it could break some of the install/admin scripts |
| 04:22.48 | cantido | pthomas_: mmm dash should have been configured when you did the debootstrap.. are you creating an install for a different arch? |
| 04:22.53 | pthomas_ | currently I think it's failing the configure because it doesn't have dialog or something similar |
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| 04:23.21 | cantido | pthomas_: you should be able to remove dash and have the system revert back to bash |
| 04:23.33 | pthomas_ | it's multistrap, and I did a dpkg --configure -a because libc needed to be configured |
| 04:23.35 | somiaj | damn wish I could figure out what changed in dh_make, I can't seem to make a custome wine pacakge anymore. |
| 04:23.37 | cantido | bash should run anything dash can, its just fatter |
| 04:23.59 | pthomas_ | yeah, I don't even care for dash, it's just breaking dpkg |
| 04:24.18 | cantido | has never used multistrap |
| 04:24.27 | pthomas_ | If I try to remove it, it also tries to remove bash |
| 04:24.34 | cantido | I guess it creates multiple filesystems at once or something? |
| 04:24.46 | dondelelcaro | pthomas_: it'd help if you gave us the full output; dash is essential, so you can't remove it |
| 04:25.07 | un214 | if dash breaks dpkg file bugs against the packages in question |
| 04:25.29 | un214 | dash is not truly essential if you have /bin/sh -> bash |
| 04:25.36 | somiaj | anyone running an older version of debian with dh_make on it so they can tell me what the old '-b' option did, it seems to be removed on sid. |
| 04:25.39 | dondelelcaro | un214: it's Essential: yes. |
| 04:25.55 | pthomas_ | http://pastebin.com/zzc3ETM9 |
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| 04:26.24 | cantido | un214: I didnt realise it was essential either.. but you can change the default shell, that wouldnt change dash being essential |
| 04:26.38 | un214 | hmm |
| 04:26.39 | wobblyonions | anyone here using freeradius combined with mysql at all? |
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| 04:27.04 | un214 | unless update-initramfs requires it (it shouldn't) replacing it with a dummy package should be easy |
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| 04:27.52 | dondelelcaro | sure, but that doesn't change that it's essential. |
| 04:28.32 | cantido | un214: does the initramfs use dash? I thought it was busybox |
| 04:28.46 | un214 | It should be using a klibc-linked dash |
| 04:28.49 | pthomas_ | there's no initramfs on this system |
| 04:29.06 | cantido | pthomas_: are you building the rootfs on a different arch? |
| 04:29.06 | un214 | then that won't be a problem now will it? |
| 04:29.16 | dondelelcaro | pthomas_: what does dpkg-divert --list /bin/sh; output? |
| 04:29.39 | pthomas_ | cantido, yeah for armel, but I'm already chrooted in from an existing armel lenny |
| 04:30.10 | pthomas_ | bash: output?: command not found |
| 04:30.18 | cantido | pthomas_: ok, I've seen weirdness like that doing debootstrap on a different arch.. thats why I asked |
| 04:30.30 | pthomas_ | both bash & dash are working can I just link /bin/sh to one of them |
| 04:30.37 | cantido | multistrap uses the host's dpkg/apt though, so I guess that isnt as much of a problem |
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| 04:31.34 | pthomas_ | but where is dpkg looking to see if a package is configured or not? |
| 04:31.44 | un214 | /var/lib/dpkg |
| 04:31.51 | un214 | /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 04:33.10 | somiaj | ok figured out what the '-b' option in dh_make use to do, it was cdbs -- common debian build system, can't figure out why it was removed in sid, but it seems to make it so I need another method to make my own custom wine deb from wine unstable tree. |
| 04:33.29 | dondelelcaro | pthomas_: and what is the output of ls -l /bin/sh*; ? |
| 04:33.29 | dondelelcaro | anyway, this looks like YA example of #591518 |
| 04:33.45 | cantido | somiaj: you can't use uupdate (I think?) to update the existing package? |
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| 04:33.59 | pthomas_ | dondelelcaro, it's not linked |
| 04:34.14 | dondelelcaro | pthomas_: what isn't linked? |
| 04:34.20 | somiaj | cantido: well the changelog is helpful on this, seems it should be a rule format not a package type....there it is, its now -r |
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| 04:34.47 | somiaj | cantido: what do you mean, how would that update a package, wouldn't I still need to compile/build the package from the new source tree? |
| 04:35.16 | pthomas_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Feb 28 20:07 /bin/sh -> dash |
| 04:35.18 | pthomas_ | bash: ?: command not found |
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| 04:35.47 | pthomas_ | sorry it is linked |
| 04:36.03 | cantido | somiaj: there is a tool called uupdate I think, it will use a new tarball and update the existing package so to that.. then you can build a new package from the output |
| 04:36.14 | dondelelcaro | pthomas_: as root, run /var/lib/dpkg/info/dash.preinst; |
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| 04:36.49 | dondelelcaro | pthomas_: then try to run dpkg --configure -a; |
| 04:36.55 | pthomas_ | ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/share/man/man1/sh.1.gz.tmp': No such file or directory |
| 04:37.12 | pthomas_ | which is correct because emdebian doesn't always have man pages |
| 04:37.22 | dondelelcaro | that's fine |
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| 04:38.16 | somiaj | cantido: ahh, well it just seems the option changed from '-b' to '-r cdbs' in this case, maybe I'll look into that, thanks. |
| 04:38.38 | dondelelcaro | though it shouldn't get to that position unless /usr/share/man/man1/sh.1.gz exists, which it apparently does in this case |
| 04:38.59 | pthomas_ | it still doesn't want to configure dash, http://pastebin.com/Aa8dmTj9 |
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| 04:39.04 | somiaj | cantido: don't think it applys in this case though, since I'm not using a source code archive, I'm just taking a source tarball, and using dh_make to generate the debian/ dir so I can build it with dpkg-buildpackage. |
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| 04:39.22 | somiaj | then ofcourse I remove all the source and only keep the pacakge around.. |
| 04:39.37 | pthomas_ | no 'usr/share/man' doesn't exist |
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| 04:40.44 | dondelelcaro | pthomas_: heh; classic. Anyway, for the time being; mkdir -p /usr/share/man/man1; touch /usr/share/man/man1/sh.1.gz; /var/lib/dpkg/info/dash.preinst; dpkg --configure -a; |
| 04:41.15 | dondelelcaro | this is kind of a bug in emdebian; because it deletes the manpages, it also screws up preinst and postinst scripts which assume those manpages exist |
| 04:42.13 | homie | yeh, flying-toasters need embdebian! |
| 04:42.21 | Ogmios | Kenick: isn't it esc + 1? |
| 04:42.27 | Ogmios | sorry |
| 04:42.40 | Ogmios | history malfunction :) |
| 04:43.27 | cantido | somiaj: I thought you were using the existing debian packages.. |
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| 04:44.50 | pthomas_ | dondelelcaro, THANKS! not apt works again |
| 04:45.26 | dondelelcaro | pthomas_: np. |
| 04:45.40 | cantido | and no one noticed that it's that broken? :/ |
| 04:45.48 | dondelelcaro | cantido: huh? |
| 04:45.59 | pthomas_ | no a little more and I can actually boot into this fs instead of chroot |
| 04:46.02 | cantido | dondelelcaro: dash is part of the base system right? |
| 04:46.16 | cantido | dondelelcaro: so if you can't configure dash thats pretty broken |
| 04:46.19 | dondelelcaro | cantido: so? emdebian is a non-standard configuration, and using multistrap isn't standard either. |
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| 04:46.39 | dondelelcaro | cantido: see #591518. |
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| 04:48.10 | pthomas_ | s/not/now |
| 04:48.11 | cantido | Ah, I thought he was doing it on arm-el for arm-el.. |
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| 04:48.58 | pthomas_ | chroot is from & to armel, multistrap was from x86_64 |
| 04:49.24 | cantido | just uses debootstrap inside qemu |
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| 04:49.38 | cantido | takes a day or so though unless you have a fast machine |
| 04:49.46 | pthomas_ | yeah I several folks have talked about that |
| 04:50.23 | cantido | and if the qemu system target doesnt allow you to attach another disk image it can be a PITA to actually get the files back out |
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| 04:52.13 | pthomas_ | I went through some pain with emdebian lenny, but it was worth it as I had a great stable system for years |
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| 04:53.36 | cantido | for SH4 there is a rootfs tar.. I got that booted of usb and did a chroot to my CF card and installed a kernel and bootloader... I would have thought there would be a rootfs tar kicking around for armel |
| 04:53.57 | cantido | s/did a chroot/did a debootstrap/ |
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| 04:55.12 | pthomas_ | candido, yeah there are, I have my lenny for one, but I want some abilty to understand/control the rootfs build |
| 04:56.29 | cantido | pthomas_: yeah, just use an existing chroot though to get the target booted so you can build the real rootfs there.. I remember having issues creating rootfs on a different arch because you can't run the configure scripts :) |
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| 04:57.31 | pthomas_ | well I'm actually booted now |
| 04:57.46 | pthomas_ | that's exciting |
| 04:57.50 | cantido | I wonder if you can statically compile cdebootstrap.. or link it against klibc.. then you could implant an initramfs with busybox and cdebootstrap :) |
| 04:58.12 | pthomas_ | candido, I don't want an initramfs |
| 04:58.50 | cantido | pthomas_: I mean just for the initial install. you can put an initramfs into the kernel image.. so you could TFTP boot the kernel or whatever and have all the tools to install debian |
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| 04:59.21 | cantido | all in ram too |
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| 05:02.37 | Avasz | when i try to install dnsmasq from http.us.debian.org lenny/main it says 404 Not Found [IP: 35.9.37.225 80] what is the problem? |
| 05:04.07 | rjsalts | Avasz: sid/unstable? |
| 05:04.28 | cantido | ..ian.org lenny/main .. |
| 05:04.34 | rjsalts | Avasz: nevermind, lenny should still be there |
| 05:04.36 | Avasz | means? |
| 05:05.56 | cantido | Avasz: do apt-get update and try again |
| 05:06.15 | rjsalts | Avasz: it means either that your Packages file is out of date, or that there is a file missing from the mirror |
| 05:06.19 | Avasz | cantido, ok |
| 05:06.46 | somiaj | if there was a secuirty update, the old version is removed and the securve version is added, but you have to update to get that info from teh server. |
| 05:07.25 | somiaj | wait, actually is the old insecure pacakges are taken out at the subversions |
| 05:07.30 | rjsalts | somiaj: didn't realize that insecure versions were removed from the distro |
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| 05:08.07 | somiaj | rjsalts: yea I think I'm incorrect there, until the drop down from security.debian.org into the subversions -- the stables do get updated from time to time |
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| 05:16.26 | pthomas_ | OK, I'm still getting GPG errors: |
| 05:16.30 | pthomas_ | W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org squeeze Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
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| 05:16.49 | cantido | you need to import the archive keys.. |
| 05:17.08 | pthomas_ | after debian-archive-keyring is installed, after apt-get update, apt-key update and apt-key add /usr/share/keyrings/* |
| 05:17.40 | pthomas_ | cantido, sorry I posted that out of order |
| 05:18.03 | cantido | apt-key list (I think).. does it show the right key? |
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| 05:19.33 | pthomas_ | here's what I get, http://pastebin.com/XxpmuUPh |
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| 05:21.17 | cantido | gpg: [don't know]: invalid packet (ctb=01) -- maybe gpg is returning an error condition? |
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| 05:27.24 | pthomas_ | ok, I removed the /etc/apt/gpg stuff and then reran apt-key update & apt-key add /usr/share/keyrings/emdebian-archive-keyring.gpg and it worked |
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| 05:52.23 | kerrick | Does Debian support the python2 command? Can someone run "which python2" (no quotes) in their terminal? |
| 05:53.14 | pthomas_ | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=python2&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
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| 05:54.59 | kerrick | pthomas_, thanks |
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| 06:08.57 | tensorpudding | trying to figure out what this debian/rules file is doing, it's calling a variable $(DEB_UPSTREAM_VERSION) but i'm not sure where this variable comes from |
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| 06:09.26 | tensorpudding | it doesn't appear in any of the .mk files that are included |
| 06:10.23 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: debhelper |
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| 06:10.44 | tensorpudding | what's debhelper? |
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| 06:11.57 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: it's a tool for generating and maintaining debian directoring |
| 06:12.25 | tensorpudding | i don't exactly see how it answers my query about that variable |
| 06:12.30 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: all those targets in your debian/rules makefile like dh_... are debhelper scripts |
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| 06:12.38 | tensorpudding | okay |
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| 06:13.35 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: so your makefile will have called one of these scripts which will have populated the DEB_UPSTREAM_VERSION environment variable |
| 06:13.35 | tensorpudding | i don't see any targets that match dh_ |
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| 06:14.37 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: the targets won't match that, the dh_ stuff will be one of the dependencies of those targets |
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| 06:15.18 | tensorpudding | the part with this variable in in the preamble before any of the rules |
| 06:15.39 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: it's a make file, the default target is the last one in the file |
| 06:15.52 | tensorpudding | eh? |
| 06:16.10 | tensorpudding | make targets the first one it sees |
| 06:17.42 | tensorpudding | i'm not sure that this variable that i'm wondering about is the reason why the build is failing |
| 06:18.16 | tensorpudding | it must be rather confused because it's failing at a point where it's trying to mv a directory which doesn't exist |
| 06:18.39 | wobblyonions | anyone here using freeradius combined with mysql at all? |
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| 06:21.29 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: pastebin? |
| 06:22.45 | tensorpudding | pastebin of the output of dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 06:22.57 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: yeah |
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| 06:25.09 | tensorpudding | http://pastebin.com/Mbgem9wj |
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| 06:26.14 | tensorpudding | hmm, that was the output of tee |
| 06:26.19 | tensorpudding | it didn't catch stderr |
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| 06:28.28 | tensorpudding | i'm trying to update the version of the package to the latest upstream stable but without much of a grasp of packaging |
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| 06:31.16 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: so your directory is called unison-2.40.61? and it has the debian subdirectory under it? |
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| 06:34.35 | tensorpudding | rjsalts: yes |
| 06:34.48 | tensorpudding | is this not the way it is done? |
| 06:35.06 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: that's correct |
| 06:35.14 | tensorpudding | i was trying to replicate the way the source package appeared |
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| 06:37.58 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: so you've unpacked the unison_2.32.52-2.debian.tar.gz and put it in the upstream sources? |
| 06:38.36 | tensorpudding | yes, i wanted to see if it would build |
| 06:38.48 | tensorpudding | there were errors in applying patches, so i disabled them for the moment |
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| 06:39.02 | rjsalts | tensorpudding: did you add stuff to the changelog file in the debian directory? |
| 06:39.08 | tensorpudding | yes |
| 06:39.15 | tensorpudding | using dch i created an entry |
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| 06:41.16 | IanWizard-Mobile | is there a way to get dpkg o regenerate its list of package files installed? I keep getting an error saying that it can't find it, and that it's assuming that everything doesn't have any files installed. |
| 06:41.28 | jmd | Does anyone know how I can unload the nvidiafb module, and prevent it from being loaded in the first place? |
| 06:41.49 | jmd | rmmod and blacklist.conf have no effect. |
| 06:41.53 | IanWizard-Mobile | you can blacklist it. |
| 06:42.09 | IanWizard-Mobile | or not. |
| 06:43.30 | jmd | IanWizard-Mobile, Like I said, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf doesn't seem to do anything. |
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| 06:53.38 | homie | wtf, my accent's gone! |
| 06:53.45 | homie | lol |
| 06:54.01 | rjsalts | homie: spent too long abroad? |
| 06:54.03 | jmd | homie, Been attending elocution lessons? |
| 06:54.09 | homie | and kdm does not recognize any kbd settings! |
| 06:54.29 | homie | z is always y here |
| 06:54.38 | homie | though i set the XkbLayout to de |
| 06:54.42 | jmd | Ach so! |
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| 06:55.28 | jmd | Do people in Germany really use those wierd keyboards? |
| 06:55.54 | homie | yeh |
| 06:56.17 | homie | neither logitech_base nor pc105 do it too... |
| 06:56.34 | homie | neither xorg rules nor evdev rules does it too |
| 06:56.43 | jmd | I mean sure, it's great for typing Tschuess and Litfassseule in the correct orthography. But normal things like "find . -exec grep hi {} \;" are almost impossible. |
| 06:57.03 | jmd | Even getting the ^ character is a major hurdle. |
| 06:57.12 | homie | that's gone too |
| 06:57.19 | homie | with all the accents... |
| 06:57.48 | jmd | And @ is very hard to find too. |
| 06:57.57 | homie | @ that's here |
| 06:58.11 | homie | at least one thing left |
| 06:59.03 | homie | kde-i18n-de kde-l10-de and xkblibs are installed though |
| 06:59.26 | homie | so i even set it in the system settings in kde, changed the language etc... |
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| 06:59.53 | homie | in konsole the caret is there, here in emacs not |
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| 07:00.24 | homie | eheh |
| 07:01.01 | homie | and in kdm at the start, the language and keyboard settings are ignored again... |
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| 07:11.20 | jmd | homie, Do you have the correct keyboard layout in your xorg.conf file ? |
| 07:11.41 | homie | yes |
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| 07:12.21 | jmd | And does it work when you start X normally without the KDE crap? |
| 07:12.42 | homie | didn't try that yet |
| 07:13.13 | jmd | That's what |
| 07:13.18 | jmd | I would try next. |
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| 07:14.58 | jmd | homie, If emacs is all you're worried about, I would recommend just using (set-input-mode "german-postfix") |
| 07:15.43 | jelly-home | homie: which debian release are you using? |
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| 07:16.24 | jelly-home | !keymap |
| 07:16.24 | dpkg | Lenny users: To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" (use loadkeys for once-only/temporary adjustments). To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" and ask me about <xorg config lenny>; gnome-control-center and kcontrol can also be used. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. Squeeze users: run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" for both console and X. |
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| 07:16.46 | homie | squeeze |
| 07:16.50 | jelly-home | jmd: xorg.conf is probably not relevant then |
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| 07:17.31 | homie | i did already reconfigure for keyboard-configuration, for kbd, for console-setup, with no go for kdm |
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| 07:17.50 | jelly-home | homie: console's working correctly? |
| 07:17.53 | homie | yes |
| 07:18.16 | homie | i enabled keyboard-layouts in kcontrol, with german as default |
| 07:18.20 | jelly-home | I guess it's possible kdm is keeping some custom setting on its own |
| 07:18.20 | homie | it works as expected |
| 07:18.39 | jelly-home | homie: tried switching to gdm, at least temporarily? |
| 07:18.39 | homie | but don't know why that thing with kdm happened or even with emacs now |
| 07:18.49 | mr0wl | What if there was a Debian mobile version phones. |
| 07:18.53 | homie | jelly-home: no, i don't have gdm installed i think |
| 07:19.27 | jelly-home | homie: so, install it and see how it fares |
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| 07:20.48 | homie | why ? |
| 07:21.03 | homie | i don't think that'll change anything... |
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| 07:21.13 | homie | it worked before with kdm |
| 07:21.14 | jelly-home | to determine if there's a fault in kdm or the initial Xorg setup |
| 07:21.15 | homie | now not |
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| 07:21.28 | homie | and the reason is definitely not gdm |
| 07:21.46 | homie | maybe more xorg ... |
| 07:21.56 | ThrAnCh | hi !!!!!!! |
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| 07:22.40 | jax02 | anyone know how to get a crontab to run every 65 minutes? |
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| 07:22.56 | jelly-home | homie: you can confirm that maybe by trying an alternative login manager. |
| 07:23.46 | jelly-home | jax02: no way. Run it every 5 minutes and implement logic to run every 11th time in your script. |
| 07:23.59 | jelly-home | er, every 13th time |
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| 07:24.28 | jax02 | I have a task that takes just longer than an hour to run, but I can't have it step on it's own toes... or I miss an hour's worth of work. I can't tell how to get a |
| 07:24.39 | jax02 | can't run it every 5 mins |
| 07:24.40 | jelly-home | jax02: implement a lock file. |
| 07:24.41 | cantido | jax02: lock file.. |
| 07:24.48 | jax02 | I'll try */65 instead and see if that works. |
| 07:24.51 | cantido | lockfiletools IIRC |
| 07:25.02 | jelly-home | jax02: it won't do the thing you want it to. |
| 07:25.08 | cantido | jax02: I'm not sure that'll work.. |
| 07:25.19 | homie | jelly-home: ok, i'm installing gdm now |
| 07:25.33 | jelly-home | homie: or xdm, whatever |
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| 07:25.50 | cantido | jax02: implement a lock file or just use ps + grep to find out if its still running.. |
| 07:25.51 | homie | by the way i reconfigured my locales now too |
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| 07:26.17 | homie | jelly-home: i tried to start an X with startx but somehow it tells me the resource is not free or so |
| 07:26.18 | jax02 | it's a game. I'm not going to that much effort. |
| 07:26.21 | jax02 | thanks though... |
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| 07:26.27 | jax02 | unless it's the only option anyway. |
| 07:26.27 | sep | jax02, also if the machine was more busy then normal for some reason the job could perhaps take 70 minutes on that unhappy occasion. lockfile is better |
| 07:26.33 | homie | jelly-home: i can't run it in parallel with kdm i think |
| 07:26.43 | cantido | jax02: I wouldn't use "it takes about an 60 so I'll run it every 65" as a method of ensuring it doesnt run concurrently |
| 07:26.58 | jelly-home | homie: yes, you'd need to stop the login manager if you wanted to run on display :0 |
| 07:27.04 | catsup | jax02: don't use cron for this |
| 07:27.26 | catsup | jax02: just run it in a loop |
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| 07:27.33 | homie | jelly-home: tried to get it up on display:1 but manpage tells me dislay is a variable for reading not setting |
| 07:27.36 | catsup | that appears to be what you awnt |
| 07:27.38 | catsup | want* |
| 07:27.45 | cantido | catsup: then you have to monitor the loop to make sure it doesnt die.. |
| 07:27.55 | jelly-home | homie: startx -- :1 |
| 07:27.57 | catsup | cantido: yes, and there are many tools for that, such as init, or daemontools |
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| 07:28.35 | cantido | thinks there is probably a better trigger to start the work.. |
| 07:29.04 | jelly-home | setting up daemontools isn't effortless either if you're a newb |
| 07:29.17 | catsup | well, true |
| 07:29.22 | catsup | but fuck newbs this is debian |
| 07:29.26 | catsup | amirite |
| 07:29.33 | jelly-home | !spank catsup |
| 07:29.33 | dpkg | bends catsup over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 07:29.41 | catsup | pfft |
| 07:29.56 | homie | ok i got it up |
| 07:30.05 | homie | it got straight into gnome |
| 07:30.22 | jelly-home | homie: you got what up? |
| 07:30.31 | homie | and i opened an xterm there, and typed something in the default is a qwerty keyboard it seems |
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| 07:30.44 | homie | though i changed the keyboard type to be qwertz! |
| 07:30.49 | homie | before i mean |
| 07:31.10 | eiselekd | how can i logof from my shell? |
| 07:31.18 | cantido | eiselekd: exit |
| 07:31.29 | eiselekd | thanks |
| 07:31.34 | homie | by reconfiguring my keyboard-configuration, kbd, and console-setup, the only thing i didn't touch is console-data and the ibus thing |
| 07:31.43 | jelly-home | homie: please rewind. How did you start the current X session? |
| 07:31.57 | homie | jelly-home: via startx -- 1: |
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| 07:32.00 | homie | err :1 |
| 07:32.17 | jelly-home | gnome has its own keyboard settings |
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| 07:32.52 | homie | ya, but i changed it before in a gnome session... |
| 07:33.02 | homie | to a german keyboard layout |
| 07:33.14 | jelly-home | homie: please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists, and the current /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 07:33.18 | homie | it seems something is not getting recongnized in X |
| 07:33.30 | homie | ok wait |
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| 07:34.03 | wsxws | hi there |
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| 07:34.36 | mah454 | Hello ... |
| 07:34.46 | mah454 | I have problem with squid server .... |
| 07:34.49 | wsxws | im running a webserver on squeeze and freshly installed gnome. how to connect to it from a windows-pc to it ? |
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| 07:35.07 | mah454 | receive this message in firefox : Unable to determine IP address from host name "www.somesite.com |
| 07:35.44 | mah454 | and this message : The DNS server returned: Server Failure: The name server was unable to process this query. |
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| 07:36.29 | wsxws | your nameserver entries in /etc/resolv.conf are fine ? |
| 07:36.40 | mah454 | DNS server is true and without problem do work ... |
| 07:37.09 | wsxws | do an nslookup on ebay.com and see if this works out |
| 07:37.11 | jelly-home | wsxws: does running "getent hosts www.somesite.com" in a shell work? |
| 07:37.16 | jelly-home | erm. |
| 07:37.20 | jelly-home | mah454: does running "getent hosts www.somesite.com" in a shell work? |
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| 07:38.52 | jelly-home | mah454: if it does, what's the actual hostname you were trying to access? It's possible their authoritative dns servers are really having issues |
| 07:39.10 | wsxws | jelly have some advise for me too (id be fine with an howto install gnome and connect to it too ;)) |
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| 07:39.26 | jelly-home | wsxws: I don't. |
| 07:40.10 | jelly-home | wsxws: apart from noting this is not a typical way to access a server machine, I usually do it with ssh and run things in a shell |
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| 07:40.56 | homie | xorg.conf is here http://pastie.org/1619796 |
| 07:40.57 | jelly-home | wsxws: if you're adamant in running an X session on the remote machine, you'll have to run it inside a VNC server |
| 07:40.57 | wsxws | i normally do so too, thats why this is the first time that i try it this way. but there has to be some windows-software running on the server which wil force me to install wine lateron also |
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| 07:41.52 | jelly-home | wsxws: basically a vnc server looks like vnc from outside, and like an X server for the apps so you can start X apps in it |
| 07:42.12 | cantido | you can use the windowed server and forwarding too.. |
| 07:42.25 | homie | and Xorg.0.log is here http://pastie.org/1619799 |
| 07:42.47 | cantido | xnest |
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| 07:43.44 | mah454 | excuse me ... |
| 07:44.04 | jmd | mah454, Granted. |
| 07:44.11 | wsxws | so waht to do to get an x session on that server and how to connect to it ? |
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| 07:44.24 | cantido | wsxws: xnest? |
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| 07:44.51 | mah454 | I find problem ... |
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| 07:45.01 | wsxws | a single word is a great answer on a howto-question |
| 07:45.03 | homie | eheh |
| 07:45.15 | homie | xkb_layout us is the default for evdev |
| 07:45.21 | homie | it's causing problems there |
| 07:45.21 | mah454 | pon command write nameserver in /etc/resolve.conf ... |
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| 07:45.57 | homie | ok i'll change that |
| 07:46.11 | jelly-home | homie: this means you did something weird with keyboard-configuration |
| 07:46.36 | jelly-home | homie: also don't mess with kbd or console-* manually any more |
| 07:47.01 | homie | i see now the Option was changed in syntax it's no more XkbRule it's xkb_rules no more XkbModel xkb_model etc... |
| 07:47.34 | homie | i think i know now what the cause is |
| 07:47.41 | homie | my options aren't recognized at all |
| 07:47.43 | jelly-home | homie: also2, xorg.conf is irrelevant now |
| 07:48.03 | homie | no, it was working before yesterday as expected |
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| 07:48.09 | homie | don't know what changed... |
| 07:48.19 | wsxws | im simply get stuck after installing gnome, because i dont find a way to connect to it. i tried to configure gdm3 and to connect using xming and i also tried to connect using vnc. so i need to know wht to install (over shh) or what to congif (over shh) to be able to connect to it |
| 07:48.29 | jelly-home | you can just remove the mouse and kbd InputDevice entries and nothing will change |
| 07:48.34 | jelly-home | homie: ^^ |
| 07:49.03 | homie | wtf is the xorg.conf therfore then ? |
| 07:49.16 | cantido | for things that cant be detected |
| 07:49.24 | homie | and how do i set anything if it is not recognized ? |
| 07:49.29 | jelly-home | homie: basically just to tell xorg you want to use "nvidia" driver |
| 07:49.30 | homie | ah ok |
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| 07:51.48 | homie | brb |
| 07:52.18 | jmd | wsxws, You don't need VNC. VNC gives VERY poor results. Use it as a last resort. Simply install a X server on your windows machine and use it as normal. |
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| 07:54.04 | cantido | the cygwin x server has "issues".. works for most things though |
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| 07:55.21 | jelly-home | mingw and putty |
| 07:55.28 | jelly-home | er. xming and putty |
| 07:56.40 | cantido | xnest should work with ssh X11 forwarding though |
| 07:57.46 | wsxws | jmd thats the point, i dont how how to 'simply install a x server on my windows machine' and using it as normal would be hard also, because i never did it before (normall i connect to websers by ssh only) |
| 07:58.26 | wsxws | when i start xming and try to connect it just does not do it but does not give out any error-message |
| 07:58.40 | cantido | wsxws: why do you need x11> |
| 07:58.48 | cantido | s/>/?/ |
| 07:58.57 | Dewi | jmd: um, vnc may suck but it outperforms x11 remoting by an order of magnitude over anything slower than a LAN |
| 07:59.08 | jmd | wsxws, I suggest you use cygwin. But there are other X servers too. |
| 08:00.12 | Dewi | wsxws: vnc4server is a virtual X11 display that VNC clients can connect to |
| 08:00.13 | jmd | Of course, I better solution would be to erase the hard disk on that machine and install Debian. |
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| 08:00.51 | Dewi | jmd: and what about all the software that wouldn't run? |
| 08:01.23 | wsxws | when i star that xming i get an ampty-screnn over here, but according to netstat im connected ot the webserver |
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| 08:01.50 | cantido | wsxws: why exactly do you need x11? for one application? |
| 08:02.10 | Dewi | wsxws: X's client-server model is backwards from VNC's. The programs connect to the display (xming), not the other way around |
| 08:02.26 | wsxws | there have to be 2 windows-applications on that server, they need wine and x11 |
| 08:02.32 | Dewi | wsxws: so yes, xming will start by showing nothing and just wait for connections |
| 08:03.03 | cantido | wsxws: you can use xnest and xmove IIRC |
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| 08:03.24 | Dewi | cantido: xmove is ancient, I don't think it really works |
| 08:03.30 | cantido | wsxws: I.e. you run the apps on the xnest and move them when you need to.. |
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| 08:04.23 | cantido | Also, if they are windows applications you would probably have more luck running them in a VM.. and all the good VM packages have vnc or rdesktop access |
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| 08:05.28 | jmd | Dewi, Nonsense. X is (under normal conditions) a lot faster than VNC. VNC has to transfer every pixel. Whereas X just the geometry. |
| 08:05.29 | Dewi | yeah, virtualbox or vmware are way nicer than messing with wine or cygwin |
| 08:05.53 | cantido | jmd: VNC doesnt transfer every pixel unless you config it to do that.. |
| 08:06.00 | cantido | it transfers changes |
| 08:06.09 | jmd | It has some optimisation yes. |
| 08:06.22 | jmd | But in principle, that's how it works. |
| 08:06.29 | Dewi | jmd: the geometry transfer is ridiculously inefficient, but most importantly, it's chatty - any latency at all just kills it |
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| 08:06.53 | Dewi | jmd: plus you can't disconnect and reconnect; your link goes down and your software crashes |
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| 08:07.03 | jmd | Whereas X was explicitly designed for communication across low bandwidth networks. |
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| 08:07.37 | Dewi | jmd: X was designed in the days of monochome rectangles, not modern animated desktops and web browsers |
| 08:07.46 | Dewi | monochrome even |
| 08:08.14 | jmd | Dewi, Well yes. If you try running toys, it tends to become inefficient. |
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| 08:08.18 | Dewi | jmd: do a direct comparison sometime |
| 08:08.24 | wsxws | hm |
| 08:08.37 | Dewi | jmd: yeah xterm works well, but not much else |
| 08:08.41 | wsxws | now im connected via vnc and it shows me the same than putty |
| 08:08.44 | jmd | X was designed for serious computing. Not for games. |
| 08:08.59 | Dewi | jmd: stop being idiotic |
| 08:09.21 | Haraken | jmd, then games became srs bsns |
| 08:09.24 | cantido | jmd: X has support for "surfaces", overlays etc .. ;) |
| 08:09.36 | Haraken | jmd, people started making moeny off of games |
| 08:10.22 | cantido | Haraken: Games were serious business before people were using X11 on their homecomputer |
| 08:10.26 | Dewi | jmd: the web has dominated IT for a decade now, and windows still has a grip on many sectors on the desktop. This channel is to support debian, not to crusade against software you don't like |
| 08:10.32 | Haraken | lol |
| 08:10.34 | jmd | But on a pragmatic level, my experience with VNC leaves me very underwhelmed. The resolution of source and target never matches. You have to keep waving the mouse to get a refresh. The fonts look ugly/unreadable. and you get all the trash of the remote screen that you're not at all interested in. |
| 08:10.47 | Dewi | cantido / Haraken : he's not even talking about games. He's just trolling, calling a web browser a game. |
| 08:11.07 | Dewi | jmd: then you're doing it wrong |
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| 08:11.26 | Haraken | i just woke up from a never ending waking up dream so im find listening to trolls right now |
| 08:11.27 | Dewi | jmd: it performs poorly compared to rdp, but none of those things are an issue. |
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| 08:11.52 | cantido | From what I could tell all he wants is a xserver to host those apps.. |
| 08:12.00 | jmd | Dewi, Well perhaps. I couldn't really afford the time to set it up and tweek it. |
| 08:12.03 | cantido | xvfb would do that |
| 08:12.24 | jmd | and using X worked (almost) perfectly, at least for my purposes. |
| 08:13.01 | homie | well at least i got my caret back in emacs |
| 08:13.04 | homie | though, kdm failing again... |
| 08:13.10 | homie | ^eheh |
| 08:13.12 | Dewi | cantido: you don't need a framebuffer, just use a vnc xserver |
| 08:13.33 | Haraken | i like freenx |
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| 08:13.46 | cantido | Dewi: If he doesnt actually need to see the apps then xvfb is enough |
| 08:13.49 | Dewi | Haraken: pity it's not in debian |
| 08:13.59 | Haraken | really?? |
| 08:14.24 | Haraken | I'mhttp://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1 |
| 08:14.26 | Haraken | deb packages |
| 08:14.29 | Dewi | Haraken: yeah, it never has been. All kinds of licensing confusion and so on. I'd love to try it, but never got it working |
| 08:14.32 | cantido | He should use a windows VM for anything serious though.. wine is great but I wouldn't use it for anything I depend on |
| 08:14.43 | homie | well i had to reinstall console-tools, then reinstall kbd and console-setup again and in between i reinstalled all xkb libs too |
| 08:14.57 | Dewi | Haraken: interesting. They never used to provide those... I'll give them a try sometime |
| 08:15.07 | Haraken | k |
| 08:15.13 | homie | well, so emacs has it's caret back but the issue with kdm seems to persist |
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| 08:16.55 | homie | yep, it's evdev related |
| 08:17.13 | homie | it totally ignores settings in xorg.conf |
| 08:17.28 | verac | Dewi: you'll like it, but it's not good for fps gaming ;) |
| 08:17.30 | wsxws | okay, gdm3 is not running, i get ** (gdm3:15210): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager. how to fix that ? |
| 08:17.37 | homie | as if it is hardcoded or so |
| 08:18.37 | Dewi | wsxws: I'm not sure gdm can really work over a network |
| 08:19.00 | Dewi | wsxws: you're better off running the session itself |
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| 08:19.29 | Dewi | wsxws: there might be a vnc function built into gnome that would work with gdm tho... |
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| 08:20.17 | jmd | Dewi, Gdm works fine over a LAN. |
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| 08:20.50 | wsxws | great, someone say that the otherone says that, but noonem ever told me exactly what to do |
| 08:20.57 | wsxws | i cant find any howto in the net neither |
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| 08:21.20 | Dewi | jmd: gdm is always running. How does it know when a display becomes available remotely? |
| 08:21.34 | wsxws | i am experienced using debian on webserver for several years know but i never ever used any kind of x |
| 08:21.46 | Dewi | wsxws: why do you need X? |
| 08:21.56 | Dewi | wsxws: I'm not really that clear what you're trying to accomplish |
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| 08:22.15 | Dewi | wsxws: nothing on a webserver should need it |
| 08:23.07 | jmd | Dewi, It can use XDMCP to find them. |
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| 08:24.17 | jmd | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html |
| 08:24.19 | wsxws | i already explained 3 times why i need x, but this is not helpfull in installing it at all |
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| 08:24.45 | wsxws | im not ven sure if the gnome on the webserver ist working atm or not |
| 08:24.49 | wsxws | oops |
| 08:24.50 | jmd | wsxws, Did you look at the Cygwin implementation? |
| 08:24.52 | wsxws | the gnome xserver |
| 08:25.35 | wsxws | i managed to conncet to the server using vnc meanwhile, but it shows the same then putty |
| 08:25.37 | Dewi | wsxws: have you made sure wine will work? |
| 08:25.48 | wsxws | and when i use gdm3 i get the error above |
| 08:26.12 | jmd | wsxws, Did you try the X server from Cygwin? |
| 08:26.20 | wsxws | Dewi the software needed on this server run fine on a ubuntu-machine before |
| 08:26.39 | Dewi | jmd: remote X probably won't handle wine very well |
| 08:26.48 | Dewi | jmd: since it's raster, not vector |
| 08:26.57 | jmd | Devastator, Probably not. |
| 08:26.58 | wsxws | it worked before |
| 08:27.03 | wsxws | hust un ubuntu |
| 08:27.06 | wsxws | just |
| 08:27.11 | Dewi | wsxws: do you want to use remote X or vnc? |
| 08:27.27 | wsxws | i dont care at all waht way it is as long as it works |
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| 08:28.29 | wsxws | so how to check first if my gnome.installation is working at all ? |
| 08:28.41 | jmd | wsxws, But you don't seem to be sure about what "it" is. It's difficult to help you when you don't know what it is that you are trying to do. |
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| 08:30.01 | wsxws | i want to install gnome on a debian webserver and connect to this desktop remotly |
| 08:30.03 | Dewi | wsxws: this is how I do it - edit ~/xstartup and add 'x-session-manager &' |
| 08:30.16 | Dewi | wsxws: then run - vnc4server -geometry 1680x1050 -geometry 1024x600 -geometry 1024x768 -geometry 1920x1200 |
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| 08:30.30 | Dewi | wsxws: this does not use gdm |
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| 08:31.14 | wsxws | ~/xstartup <<-- dont have that, i just have Xauthority |
| 08:31.30 | Dewi | wsxws: oops I meant ~/.vnc/xstartup |
| 08:31.43 | Dewi | wsxws: the vnc server creates it the first time it runs |
| 08:31.57 | Dewi | wsxws: but it didn't start gnome for me which is why I added 'x-session manager &' to it |
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| 08:35.10 | Over|KRS-1 | is there a simple way to install qmailadmin on debian lenny ? |
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| 08:35.41 | wsxws | okay i killed the old vnc-process, added that line and started vnc again |
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| 08:36.11 | wsxws | i can connect vie vnc but i dot have a desktop, i just have a commandline there |
| 08:36.42 | wsxws | (same as i hade before) |
| 08:37.01 | Dewi | wsxws: try running 'x-session-manager &' or 'gnome-session &' |
| 08:37.22 | Dewi | wsxws: inside the X |
| 08:37.31 | Dewi | not from ssh |
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| 08:40.13 | wsxws | x-session-manager & <<- this give out a huge lists of errors |
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| 08:42.49 | Dewi | wsxws: you could paste them to pastie.org so we can see |
| 08:42.57 | sanjhsanjh | hi |
| 08:43.08 | sanjhsanjh | hello Dewi |
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| 08:44.14 | wsxws | http://pastie.org/1619947 |
| 08:44.15 | sanjhsanjh | hi marienjoanny |
| 08:44.22 | wsxws | i was already preparing that pastie ;) |
| 08:44.33 | sanjhsanjh | hello wsxws |
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| 08:44.55 | marienjoanny | hi |
| 08:45.04 | sanjhsanjh | how r you |
| 08:45.16 | lxsameer | how can i grant opening port 80 permission to www-data user? |
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| 08:47.56 | wsxws | lxsameer waht excactly are you trying to do ? |
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| 08:48.48 | lxsameer | wsxws: i try to run my webserver(nginx) under www-data user, but www-data can not bind to port 80 |
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| 08:50.23 | wsxws | netstat -antp | grep -i listen |
| 08:50.38 | wsxws | is there already another listner to port 80 ? |
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| 08:50.59 | GPenguin | no, its just that ports below 1024 require root priviledges |
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| 08:51.10 | lxsameer | wsxws: ofcourse not |
| 08:51.27 | lxsameer | GPenguin: agree but how can i add www-data to that rule |
| 08:52.27 | GPenguin | when you look at apache e.g. there is always 1 parent process that runs as root. and this one forks child processes that run as www-data |
| 08:52.40 | wsxws | nginx does the same |
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| 08:53.08 | lxsameer | GPenguin: aha thanks |
| 08:53.10 | llutz | lxsameer: set "user www-data;" in nginx.conf |
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| 08:54.01 | lxsameer | llutz: it already set |
| 08:54.19 | techouse | what's the aptitude/apt-get expression to tell me which package provides a certain shared object or library? |
| 08:54.23 | wsxws | when you start nginx, waht is the exact errormessage you get ? |
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| 08:54.39 | techouse | same as yum provides or zypper wp |
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| 08:55.28 | GPenguin | techouse: apt-file |
| 08:55.47 | wsxws | Dewi did you have a look at my pastie ? |
| 08:56.00 | techouse | GPenguin: thanx |
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| 08:56.52 | wsxws | techouse you might need to install it first |
| 08:57.22 | techouse | i noticed :D |
| 08:57.28 | techouse | and update its sources |
| 08:57.41 | wsxws | ;) |
| 08:58.40 | Dewi | wsxws: looking |
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| 08:59.39 | Dewi | wsxws: you should be running as a normal user, not root |
| 09:00.03 | ethanol | lies |
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| 09:00.09 | ethanol | always run as root. it is easier. |
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| 09:03.44 | SurfMan | I got this wierd issue where after I install Debian everything runs fine, reboots are fine, but after a power off Debian won't boot without a gazillion errors. I know it's not much to work with, but does it sound familiar to anyone? |
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| 09:08.15 | wsxws | the server is empty atm, securing it comes a little later, as sonn as the setup works, and it does not atm. and running this vncserver as root is not recommended but it males no difference when i run it as normal users, the errors are the same |
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| 09:08.40 | wsxws | so the first problem seems to be the installtion of gnome |
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| 09:08.54 | Dewi | wsxws: so gnome still says not to run it as root, when you don't? |
| 09:09.01 | wsxws | howto install gnome on a webserver running on squeeze ? |
| 09:09.03 | dreamer | hi all, I'm trying to run a cronjob from my user (first time playing with cron), but there is no /usr/etc/crontab so where do I put it? |
| 09:09.30 | dreamer | wsxws: why do you want to install gnome on a server? |
| 09:09.35 | wsxws | crontab -e <<-- this will pen the userspecific crontab |
| 09:09.50 | wsxws | because i need it |
| 09:09.51 | Dewi | dreamer: wants to remote to x to run wine |
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| 09:10.07 | dreamer | why install a full gnome desktop for that? |
| 09:10.15 | Dewi | dreamer: unknown |
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| 09:10.37 | wsxws | i asked several time which ways there to to reach my goal |
| 09:10.38 | Dewi | wsxws: why don't you just run wine from the vnc you have? |
| 09:10.44 | wsxws | i dont need that x if there is another way |
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| 09:11.08 | dreamer | why doesn't wine run over X-forwarding then? |
| 09:11.19 | dreamer | afaik it should just work |
| 09:11.30 | Dewi | dreamer: over the internet? that would be crazy slow, and would crash as soon as the link is severed |
| 09:11.31 | dreamer | although I've never used wine specifically |
| 09:11.41 | dreamer | Dewi: running a full gnome desktop would be ever slower .. |
| 09:11.43 | wsxws | okay, let me ask another way round |
| 09:11.49 | Dewi | dreamer: not in vnc |
| 09:11.59 | techouse | another question, does aptitude/apt have some sort of history feature like yum? |
| 09:12.03 | wsxws | waht is the easiest way to run wine on a webserver and how to connect to it |
| 09:12.09 | techouse | so one can undo what has been done? |
| 09:12.19 | Arrowmaster | there is a log |
| 09:12.24 | Dewi | techouse: not really, but there's a log |
| 09:12.28 | dreamer | Dewi: just for one program .. I'd use some *box wm, not a full gnome install o.O |
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| 09:12.35 | techouse | oky, so it's the hard way :/ |
| 09:12.37 | Dewi | wsxws: type 'wine' |
| 09:12.46 | Dewi | wsxws: or whatever you type to start wine? |
| 09:13.12 | dreamer | Dewi: and I think x-forwarding a single app is actually faster than vnc |
| 09:13.33 | dreamer | I never use vnc tbh, x-forward is def. good enough |
| 09:13.39 | Dewi | dreamer: not sure why people think that, especially for something rendering pixel grids like wine |
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| 09:14.34 | Dewi | dreamer: firefox takes about 30 seconds just to render over an internet link |
| 09:14.58 | dreamer | Dewi: maybe your internet just sucks ;) |
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| 09:15.22 | redbeans | q |
| 09:15.34 | dreamer | or maybe I'm just spoiled being mostly on 100mbit fdx |
| 09:15.44 | wsxws | that wont help me, so return to the beginning |
| 09:15.50 | wsxws | how to install gnome on squeeze ? |
| 09:15.57 | Dewi | wsxws: why do you want gnome? |
| 09:16.00 | Dewi | wsxws: gnome is not X |
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| 09:16.09 | wsxws | okay |
| 09:16.10 | Dewi | wsxws: gnome has nothing to do with solving your problem |
| 09:16.11 | wsxws | how to install x |
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| 09:16.21 | Dewi | wsxws: install vnc4server, run it |
| 09:16.30 | dreamer | aaargd, the .bashrc they want me to use really sucks, and any changes I make don't work -_- |
| 09:16.40 | wsxws | i did, it produces lots of error, i showed you in a pastie |
| 09:16.52 | Dewi | wsxws: that was gnome complaining about being run as root |
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| 09:17.10 | wsxws | i told you above that running it under another user gives out the same errors |
| 09:17.33 | wsxws | dreamer cd || . .bahsrc |
| 09:17.47 | Dewi | wsxws: but that's gnome, you don't need gnome, so don't worry. Run wine instead |
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| 09:18.07 | dreamer | wsxws: no it keeps failing |
| 09:18.11 | wsxws | when i run wine in vnc its the same then running it in ssh |
| 09:18.22 | wsxws | dreamer what did you change in .bashrc ? |
| 09:18.53 | wsxws | normally . .bashrc makes it reloading it |
| 09:19.16 | dreamer | wsxws: there was an 'export EDITOR=emacs', but no emacs is installed, so I changed it to vim, now it says '/bin/sh: VIM: not found' then I did an 'alias VIM=vim' but it still gives this error |
| 09:19.48 | wsxws | vim is /bin/bash not /bin/sh |
| 09:20.17 | dreamer | hmm |
| 09:20.56 | wsxws | what happens if you do the export in bash directly |
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| 09:21.15 | dreamer | ok, now works |
| 09:21.21 | dreamer | weird stuff |
| 09:21.49 | dreamer | I'm not too knowledgable about shell-configuration, but I'm sure this old stuff they use is pretty messed up |
| 09:21.54 | wsxws | normal there isnt any export of this in .bashrc and the default editor shoud be nano/pico |
| 09:22.14 | Dewi | wsxws: what does wine say? |
| 09:22.27 | wsxws | the same than wine says when i run it in ssh |
| 09:22.41 | wsxws | # wine |
| 09:22.41 | wsxws | Usage: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...] Run the specified program |
| 09:22.41 | wsxws | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.41 | wsxws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:22.57 | wsxws | sorry, i thought 4 lines would be okay, wont happen again |
| 09:23.00 | Dewi | wsxws: does xterm run? |
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| 09:23.23 | wsxws | this is not even installed |
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| 09:23.37 | wsxws | thatds why i asked 'how to install' |
| 09:24.05 | dreamer | wsxws: yeah the .bashrc they gave is really F-ed up. it also wants to run tget to set the title-bar of the terminal .. but afaik tget is highly deprecated (and has never been on this system) |
| 09:24.24 | Dewi | wsxws: xlogo then |
| 09:25.13 | dreamer | wsxws: "apt-get install" |
| 09:25.20 | dreamer | hehe :P |
| 09:25.25 | wsxws | xterm is installed now |
| 09:25.34 | wsxws | and tehre is no xlogo packege, just linuxlogo |
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| 09:25.50 | wsxws | dreamer that hint was the one io was looking for , hehe |
| 09:26.57 | dreamer | wsxws: ah, first time debian user I guess? ;) |
| 09:27.18 | Dewi | wsxws: it's in x11-apps which is a dependency of xservers |
| 09:27.23 | dreamer | do a 'man apt' and read read read ;) |
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| 09:27.40 | dreamer | wsxws: search for packages with 'apt-cache search' |
| 09:27.54 | dreamer | wsxws: and don't forget to do an 'apt-get update' before |
| 09:28.07 | wsxws | dreamer that was a joke, im running webserver for ages now |
| 09:28.10 | dreamer | :P |
| 09:28.16 | wsxws | i just never ever used any kind of x |
| 09:28.18 | dreamer | then define 'how to install' |
| 09:28.26 | dreamer | how -> use apt |
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| 09:29.15 | wsxws | x11-aps is installed |
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| 09:30.30 | administrador | hi. i want to update from lenny to squeeze. i put new repo for squeeze and then aptitude update-aptitude safe-upgrade. but i see to many conflict |
| 09:30.50 | administrador | how i can do safe upgrade? |
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| 09:30.58 | Dewi | !upgrade |
| 09:30.58 | dpkg | i guess upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version, read its release notes first. Ask me about <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze>. |
| 09:30.58 | dreamer | administrador: did you first completely update your lenny install? |
| 09:31.05 | Dewi | !lenny->squeeze |
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| 09:31.20 | administrador | yes |
| 09:31.25 | administrador | compl |
| 09:31.27 | Dewi | dpkg: lenny->squeeze |
| 09:31.27 | dpkg | Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <squeeze release notes>. |
| 09:32.19 | wsxws | okay, lets doing it drom the start, as if nothing was installed. what would i need to install to run wine in a graphical mode ? |
| 09:32.21 | Dewi | labirint: if that's too condensed, read the section on upgrading in squeeze release notes |
| 09:32.27 | Dewi | wsxws: vnc4server |
| 09:32.33 | wsxws | check |
| 09:32.36 | wsxws | waht else ? |
| 09:32.44 | Dewi | wine I guess |
| 09:32.47 | wsxws | check |
| 09:32.48 | Dewi | I've never actually used wine |
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| 09:33.00 | Coudy | HI, I can't get ASM (Adaptec Storage Manager) working on debian 6.0 64bit , I've tried from version 5.20 to 6.50. But I have active system (debian 5.0 32bit) where ASM is working. Can someone help me < |
| 09:33.04 | wsxws | great, that makes us 2 |
| 09:33.14 | Dewi | but I believe it displays to X |
| 09:33.42 | Dewi | wsxws: what happens if you log in with vnc and run xlogo ? |
| 09:33.54 | wsxws | waht would be the easiest way to install a graphical user interface i can remotely connect to ? |
| 09:34.26 | Dewi | wsxws: run vnc4server, connect with vnc client |
| 09:34.49 | Dewi | I don't normally run it as root either |
| 09:34.54 | Dewi | but I see no reason why it wouldn't work |
| 09:34.56 | wsxws | No protocol specified and Error: Can't open display: :4.0 <<-- output of xlogo |
| 09:35.24 | Dewi | wsxws: is this server a vm? |
| 09:35.36 | wsxws | nope its a decicated |
| 09:35.57 | redbeans | h |
| 09:36.00 | redbeans | my bad |
| 09:36.07 | Dewi | wsxws: it sounds like there's another vnc involved, not the one I'm talking about |
| 09:37.13 | wsxws | it might be that i never installed an x before, but i am not dump. you told me to install vnc4server so i installed vnc4server and no other vnc |
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| 09:38.37 | wsxws | i will deinstall the whole bunch of packages i installed for gnome and xterm and so on |
| 09:38.51 | Dewi | wsxws: what do you see when you first log into vnc? |
| 09:38.58 | Midas3 | hi |
| 09:39.01 | labirint | apt-get update/upgrade in progress xd |
| 09:39.11 | labirint | we will see what happened |
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| 09:39.27 | wsxws | a little logon-windows asking me for a password |
| 09:39.46 | Dewi | wsxws: after that |
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| 09:40.16 | wsxws | then there ist a window in the size i told vnc4server before with a smaller window in it. that smaller window is terminal window |
| 09:40.24 | wsxws | and thats it |
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| 09:41.14 | Midas3 | i've just installed plymouth. it works somehow, but at some stage of the boot process the machine switches back to console (which doesnt bother me much for now) and after 'waiting for /dev to be fully populated' it is waiting for a keypress o.O |
| 09:41.16 | Coudy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:43.08 | Midas3 | could anyone give me a hint on that issue? |
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| 09:49.19 | Jonno_FTW | should I install stable, testing or unstable? |
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| 09:49.41 | wsxws | depends on waht you are doing |
| 09:49.51 | Jonno_FTW | it's for personal use on my laptop |
| 09:50.00 | wsxws | for business i would use stable, for privat stuff testing |
| 09:50.01 | Jonno_FTW | so basic web browsing and programming |
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| 09:51.29 | Jonno_FTW | wsxws: thanks for the help! |
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| 09:51.41 | Midas3 | btw i forgot to mention that populating /dev finishes successfully wiht ...done. |
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| 09:52.55 | Midas3 | right after this the machine then is waiting for a keypress. no logs, no messages btw |
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| 09:59.06 | ExtremDevilz2 | humm guys currently im on Windows |
| 09:59.20 | ExtremDevilz2 | want to move to linux tried Ubuntu dont really liked it |
| 09:59.21 | Innocentus | hi |
| 09:59.27 | Midas3 | ok i solved the issue myself |
| 09:59.37 | Innocentus | OFFTOPIC: do you know some micro hoster which hosts only some little php-stuff (nothing more)? |
| 10:01.10 | Midas3 | seems that deprecated udev rules OR more likely ambigous udev rules (say for some reason you have two rules for the same dvd drive) cause the misbehaviour on boot |
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| 10:07.50 | wsxws | okay, ill delete that debian and install unbuntu |
| 10:08.05 | wsxws | cu |
| 10:09.20 | labirint | I'am upgradeing to squeeze. In step Configuration file `/etc/console-tools/config' i choose Z (background this process to examine the situation) and upgrade stop. What can i do?I have to execute something to continue? thanks |
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| 10:14.26 | labirint | ok |
| 10:14.33 | joltcan | labirint: "fg" |
| 10:14.34 | labirint | was exit to continue |
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| 10:25.17 | zxd | hi |
| 10:25.20 | zxd | how do I search for tags with aptitude |
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| 10:26.34 | banga | is there a way to lock ssh down, so that if the IP exists in hosts.allow, it only needs a password, but if it doesnt exist in hosts.allow, it needs both a sshkey and password? |
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| 10:28.41 | simonrvn | why notjust require a key regardless? seems a) a little complicated for nothing b) not done before, TMK |
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| 10:32.11 | banga | yeah.. the reason is that i know its a secure connection when the IP is in hosts.allow, and my fear is that if i ever lose the key (i know backups etc), ill lock myself out. I am trying to work out a really secure way that I can log into the servers easily from my IP, but if i am ever on the road and need to get into the server i have a way using the sshkey |
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| 10:33.10 | banga | another thought was to setup a cheap cloud server that allows me to login from anywhere, then add that servers IP so i can then ssh through to the main server |
| 10:33.46 | banga | actually i think thats the best way |
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| 10:39.11 | simonrvn | also put ssh on another port |
| 10:39.48 | amgarching | hi, where do i get precompiled gcc 4.4 for Lenny to be installed in parallel with system default 4.3? |
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| 10:43.16 | techouse | what does pi mean next to a package name in aptitude? |
| 10:43.20 | techouse | partly installed? |
| 10:43.54 | xeviox | hi, I want to setup postfix, but I'm unsure what I should enter as "full qualified host name", can anyone help? |
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| 10:44.19 | blip2 | xeviox: where are you running postfix on? |
| 10:44.37 | blip2 | and are you planning on sending mail? |
| 10:45.13 | xyriphe | techouse: Are they also marked in green? |
| 10:45.27 | xeviox | blip2: I plan to setup it on my vserver to send / receive emails |
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| 10:46.12 | techouse | xyriphe: no |
| 10:46.28 | amgarching | xeviox: hostname.domainname.com or similar |
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| 10:48.09 | khem_ | Hello, I have a Lenovo Edge 11", what can I do to get my WLAN drivers to work, the "Debian way" - are there any packages available? |
| 10:48.15 | xeviox | amgarching: ok thanks, I'll repaste with a concrete name to ensure that it's that one :D. |
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| 10:48.33 | xeviox | can I test the mail handling without the domain pointing to the server? |
| 10:48.35 | khem_ | The WLAN card is a RTL8188CE |
| 10:49.36 | banga | sdfa |
| 10:50.04 | Bushmills | banga: why not simply create a second account on ssh server, with key, and allow login to that key from additional machines? |
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| 10:50.37 | xyriphe | techouse: Anyway, the only pi I know of is the "not yet installed, but about to" meaning, half-installed is H. |
| 10:50.38 | Bushmills | can even be low-priv, as long as you can su with password |
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| 10:51.22 | Bushmills | ... allow login to that account, i mean |
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| 10:52.18 | techouse | xyriphe: hmm, and how do i clean the cache to make it from pi to p again? |
| 10:52.48 | xeviox | This is what hostname tells me: "vs528.dus2.xxxxxx.xxx" but my domain will just be something like "mydomain.com" |
| 10:53.08 | xeviox | so what should I enter for the fully quallified host name? the hostname or the domain? |
| 10:53.30 | xeviox | cause the hostname already contains a "domain" |
| 10:54.04 | Bushmills | xeviox: both. better give it a "real" name, such as the one you'll use to get sent mail to it |
| 10:54.28 | Bushmills | same as your MX record, for example |
| 10:54.47 | xeviox | Bushmills: ok so I will use "mydomain.com" as fully qualified host name |
| 10:54.49 | xeviox | thanks |
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| 10:55.41 | Bushmills | xeviox: you probably want to set up a PTR record for RDNS with the same name too |
| 10:56.10 | xeviox | Bushmills: at the moment the domain is pointing to another server were everything works fine |
| 10:56.26 | xeviox | Bushmills: I just want to switch over when the mailing is handled correctly |
| 10:56.34 | Bushmills | you still want to do that |
| 10:56.35 | xeviox | otherwise I will lose to much of my emails :( |
| 10:56.40 | xeviox | ok |
| 10:56.41 | xeviox | thanks |
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| 10:57.42 | xeviox | Bushmills: can I test the hole mail system without the domain pointing to it? |
| 10:58.01 | Bushmills | shouldn't be a problem to set up a hostname like mail2.yourdomain.tld while setting up new server |
| 10:58.34 | xeviox | ah ok |
| 10:58.36 | xeviox | thanks :D |
| 10:59.18 | Bushmills | set it's TTL low a day or so before switching |
| 11:00.20 | xeviox | ok thanks, maybe I'll come back with some questions when I'm ready to test / switch |
| 11:00.25 | xeviox | thanks for the quick help |
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| 11:01.44 | xyriphe | techouse: Press 'g' to pull up the list of queued up actions, then '-' those you don't want to install. |
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| 11:05.31 | banga | Bushmills: you mean on the same server? It's probably going to be smarter moving forward just to have a few cheap cloud servers setup that i can tunnel through |
| 11:06.06 | banga | that way i dont have to mess around with different settings on the main server |
| 11:06.16 | banga | and can keep using hosts.allow |
| 11:06.56 | banga | im just weary of every losing an sshkey and its backups, or stuck without them somewhere, and locked out from all the servers |
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| 11:07.58 | Bushmills | but with that solution you'll have to do exactly that: "mess around with different settings", i.e. having host.allow for some login cases |
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| 11:08.38 | Bushmills | hosts.allow btw |
| 11:10.01 | zxd | any reason why dante-server isn't available for lenny |
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| 11:10.14 | banga | no i must not have said that properly. Ill buy a cloud server, setup ssh in it without hosts.allow and without sshkeys. Then ill add that cloud servers IP to the production server. That way if im away from my computer, i can login to the cloud then ssh through to the production |
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| 11:10.59 | banga | the prod. server will be locked down the hosts.allow only |
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| 11:23.39 | dadrian | hello, is there any way to see what pkg created what system user ? |
| 11:26.00 | ghoulsblade | hi all, experimenting with vms, i'd like to set up a virtual lan without access to the physical network device, currently looking at lmsod : 8021q (802.1 Q) : vconfig etc, is that the right thing or do i need something completely different ? "vconfig add vlanA 1234" gives me "error: No such device" |
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| 11:27.12 | andiolsi | hi, how do i disable write caching for benchmarking purposes? |
| 11:27.43 | ghoulsblade | hdparm maybe |
| 11:27.50 | DarkStar1 | hello. Has anyone tried to install vmware server on squiddy? |
| 11:27.58 | andiolsi | ghoulsblade: no ata drives |
| 11:28.07 | DarkStar1 | vmware server 2.0 |
| 11:28.08 | andiolsi | fibre channel blockdevs |
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| 11:28.27 | ghoulsblade | ah ok, was just a guess, no clue really |
| 11:28.28 | DarkStar1 | gcc -version |
| 11:28.34 | DarkStar1 | whoops |
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| 11:37.05 | bartzy | Hi |
| 11:37.24 | bartzy | on isc-dhcp-server, reload is enough to reload the log file (after logrotate), or I need restart ? |
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| 11:40.55 | labirinto | . |
| 11:42.27 | labirinto | i was upgrade to squeeze over apt-get. But aptitude still dependency problem. How can i fix that?thanks |
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| 11:43.26 | baethan | hi, all! |
| 11:43.42 | baethan | anybody I can ask about file permissions? |
| 11:44.09 | labirinto | do not ask for ask, just ask |
| 11:44.32 | vega- | is it possible to copy a users password to another system by just copy-pasting from /etc/shadow? |
| 11:44.50 | vega- | need to migrate users to a new server |
| 11:45.00 | baethan | yup, I usermod -a -G joe peter --> joined peter to group joe |
| 11:45.14 | baethan | but I can't access folders with group joe on it |
| 11:45.27 | baethan | I'm sure i chmod 770 a joe folder |
| 11:46.00 | vega- | type "id", does it list the group? (won't be active until logout/login) |
| 11:46.02 | boota2 | hello, i'm trying to mount scp filesystem on boot in debian via fstab, but got an error. It seems, network starts later than fstab mounts. |
| 11:46.09 | boota2 | Any ideas how to fix? |
| 11:47.05 | baethan | vega: nope it didnot list the group and nope I did not log out |
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| 11:47.23 | baethan | is there any other way w/o loggin out? |
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| 11:47.59 | boota2 | I think i should change order of execution in /etc/init.d, but i don't know how to do this exactly |
| 11:48.29 | vega- | baethan: not that i know of |
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| 11:49.08 | baethan | vega: okay, thanks |
| 11:49.27 | bartzy | on isc-dhcp-server, reload is enough to reload the log file (after logrotate), or I need restart ? |
| 11:49.29 | vega- | boota2: don't mess with those.. instead put sshfs stuff in a later script |
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| 11:49.45 | vega- | (if you don't know exactly what you are doing) |
| 11:50.05 | themill | bartzy: is there any reason why you expect that to be the same in both debian and ubuntu? And which are you using -- debian or ubuntu? |
| 11:50.13 | boota2 | vega-: so you suggest that i create special script for whis? |
| 11:50.19 | boota2 | *this |
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| 11:51.51 | bartzy | themill: Debian |
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| 11:52.13 | bartzy | themill: Just thought that isc-dhcp-server would act the same for both debian & ubuntu when it comes to signals, and didn't find any docs about it. |
| 11:52.24 | bartzy | themill: I found one example that goes with restart... |
| 11:52.31 | boota2 | I think change system startup sequence in such a way that network starts before mounting must be easy enough... |
| 11:52.32 | themill | bartzy: so why would you ask in #ubuntu if you're using debian? |
| 11:52.41 | boota2 | If there won't be any related problems. |
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| 11:53.58 | bartzy | themill: Because i thought dhcpd has the same behavior on both... |
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| 11:55.33 | themill | bartzy: that's not necessarily a good assumption (are they the same version? how have the packages been changed? how are the scripts changed by the time you have a different init system?). Also, /msg dpkg cross-post. You could always try it and see... |
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| 11:56.53 | themill | bartzy: have you even tried "reload"? |
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| 11:57.30 | boota2 | Help me understand debian boot proccess. |
| 11:57.30 | themill | bartzy: and what log file are you talking about specifically? |
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| 11:58.28 | boota2 | For example, there in /etc/rc.something lies script which mounts filesystems? |
| 11:59.10 | boota2 | *where |
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| 11:59.57 | bartzy | themill: /var/log/dhcpd.log |
| 12:00.22 | Bushmills | boota2: execute mount -a again after network started may be a quick fix |
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| 12:01.15 | boota2 | Bushmills: No, quick fix is not an option. I want to do this right. |
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| 12:02.18 | Bushmills | boota2: trying to keep things at more or less default, and get your stuff by adding on is more robust when upgrading |
| 12:02.55 | Bushmills | adding a late mount -a would probably add to such robustness |
| 12:03.09 | boota2 | Bushmills: maybe i should create another script on runlevel 2 and mount my filesystem there? |
| 12:03.39 | Bushmills | also, consider automount |
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| 12:05.45 | boota2 | do scripts in /etc/rc.something execute in parallel? |
| 12:06.02 | bartzy | I have a file in my filesystem. How can I check from which package it arrived? |
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| 12:07.43 | boota2 | *are executed |
| 12:08.16 | Bushmills | boota2: executing in parallel has the potential to defeat dependency based execution, or boot order by sym link enumeration |
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| 12:09.00 | Bushmills | bartzy: dpkg -S, or apt-file |
| 12:09.15 | bartzy | apt-file searches in installed packages too ? |
| 12:09.42 | Bushmills | searches in all packages. dpkg -S searches only in installed packages |
| 12:10.34 | zyga | Hi, do I understand correctly that DEP-5 does not have Affero GPL listed in the well-known licenses? |
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| 12:10.55 | bartzy | I have a file here: /etc/logrotate.d/freeradius.dpkg-dist |
| 12:11.04 | bartzy | What installed that file there ? |
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| 12:11.25 | Bushmills | bartzy: config file, not overwriting your custom config when you upgraded |
| 12:11.25 | simonrvn | freeradius |
| 12:11.38 | bartzy | I can't find that file with dpkg -S or apt-file. |
| 12:11.46 | simonrvn | you won't |
| 12:12.11 | simonrvn | it's exactly what Bushmills said it is |
| 12:12.18 | bartzy | freeradius automatically adds this to logrotate.d ? |
| 12:12.26 | bartzy | Bushmills: Upgraded what ? |
| 12:12.36 | simonrvn | it puts /etc/logrotate.d/freeradius there |
| 12:12.39 | Bushmills | the file name may carry a hint |
| 12:13.34 | simonrvn | you modified it, or dpkg thinks you did, and you said no to overwriting it, so it puts it there, but adds ".dpkg-dist" to it. if you had said yes, it would move yours but add ".dpkg-old" |
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| 12:13.49 | bartzy | why the hint is added ? |
| 12:13.50 | bartzy | and who does that ? not dpkg ? Why dpkg is in the suffix then ? |
| 12:14.03 | simonrvn | ... |
| 12:14.22 | Bushmills | bartzy: "why" .. because without the hint, it would be even less clear to you :D |
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| 12:14.32 | bartzy | OK I really not understanding - dpkg copies that file over there ? |
| 12:14.39 | themill | bartzy: every isc dhcpd setup I've ever touched uses syslog logging; you need to configure syslog for the log rotation step not dhcpd. |
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| 12:15.54 | bartzy | themill: so I need to reload syslogd ? |
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| 12:16.05 | Bushmills | bartzy: consider the file as having the name "freeradius.you.chose.not.to.replace.your.customized.version.of.this.file.with.the.maintainer.provided.version.coming.with.the.package |
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| 12:16.17 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 12:16.44 | Bushmills | that's still < 255 chars, i think |
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| 12:17.06 | simonrvn | forgot a " |
| 12:17.08 | bartzy | themill: Meaning in logrotate (which I still need to use, right?) |
| 12:17.15 | Bushmills | " |
| 12:17.26 | simonrvn | :D |
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| 12:18.53 | techouse | i need to start tomcat at boot. can i simply put "/opt/TomcatOpenEJB-6.0.26/bin/tomcat.sh START" in /etc/rc.local? |
| 12:20.18 | bartzy | OK I got it. so dpkg-dist is the new version of that file? |
| 12:20.18 | bartzy | and thanks for the help :) |
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| 12:36.02 | swdx | hi all |
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| 12:36.58 | swdx | i'm trying to connect my garmin gps to debian, but there is a final step i don't understand, any help? |
| 12:37.44 | swdx | i have edited the permissions with the product id... etc. |
| 12:37.54 | andiolsi | wow something is utterly broken since 6.0 multipath-tools does not contain mpath_prio_* sbins, git-core stores git-clone in /usr/lib and doesnt support http anymore ... |
| 12:38.40 | andiolsi | and packages.debian.org says unstable multipath-tools contains mpath_prio_alua when it doesnt |
| 12:39.01 | themill | andiolsi: git-* was changed to put everything except "git" somewhere other than /usr/bin some years ago. This was quite intentional by the git developers. |
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| 12:39.12 | swdx | SYSFS{idVendor}=="091e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0003", MODE="666" (where can i find the MODE) ?? |
| 12:40.03 | DarkStar1 | Is there an iso mounter for debian? |
| 12:40.03 | swdx | usb 5-2: New USB device found, idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303 |
| 12:40.15 | harpal | swdx: MODE is permission may be so chmod 666 |
| 12:40.35 | themill | andiolsi: "git clone http://..../foo.git" works just fine for me |
| 12:41.02 | swdx | harpal: in a terminal do i input the chmod command ?? |
| 12:41.02 | andiolsi | hmm i guess it does, but git-clone doesnt |
| 12:41.07 | andiolsi | and it did on 5.x |
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| 12:41.23 | themill | andiolsi: [12:39] <themill> andiolsi: git-* was changed to put everything except "git" somewhere other than /usr/bin some years ago. This was quite intentional by the git developers. |
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| 12:42.06 | harpal | swdx: ya, but on which you need to set mode that I dont know. but MODE it points to it seems its permission mode |
| 12:42.13 | andiolsi | how about packages.debian.org saying something is in a package that isnt? |
| 12:42.23 | swdx | when i attach the gps working with viking it says gps not available |
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| 12:42.56 | swdx | but it knows it is attached to /dev/ttyUSB0 |
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| 12:43.28 | xeviox | argh, something seems to go wrong in the postfix |
| 12:43.30 | xeviox | setup |
| 12:43.41 | swdx | i'm almost near to get my gps run.... i don't know what is missing |
| 12:43.41 | xeviox | I'm unable to deliver a testmail with telnet |
| 12:44.12 | xeviox | after "mail from ..." the server doesn't answer any more (connection is not getting refused) |
| 12:44.17 | themill | andiolsi: url? |
| 12:44.44 | andiolsi | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=mpath_prio_alua&mode=path&suite=unstable&arch=any |
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| 12:44.53 | xeviox | when I check the log (mail.err) I see the following: fatal: mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf(0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem |
| 12:44.58 | andiolsi | http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/multipath-tools/filelist |
| 12:45.08 | xeviox | which looks like a permission problem |
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| 12:45.30 | andiolsi | maybe they changed that too |
| 12:45.40 | andiolsi | so that you have to load libs or stuff |
| 12:45.45 | andiolsi | but the error remains the same :p |
| 12:46.17 | themill | andiolsi: you selected "any arch" and that file is in the m68k package. If you want a specific architecture, you should select it. |
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| 12:46.38 | xeviox | any idea what's wrong? |
| 12:46.42 | swdx | to make system to recognize my device i changed the device vendor id and id product value, found with "dmesg" entry....SYSFS{idVendor}=="091e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0003", MODE="666" |
| 12:46.42 | themill | andiolsi: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=mpath_prio_alua&mode=path&suite=unstable&arch=amd64 |
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| 12:47.08 | swdx | New USB device found, idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303 |
| 12:47.12 | alexidoia | hello, I have a problem with a ghost ps, one that does not want to stop, I am trying to get its PID to kill it with the command lsof, but I can't remember, how to look for a PID knowing that I am looking for a ftp process |
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| 12:47.49 | andiolsi | themill: thats even worse shouldnt the files in a package be more or less the same on all archs? |
| 12:47.50 | alexidoia | I remember doing it with a port number |
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| 12:48.01 | alexidoia | any suggestion would be appreciated |
| 12:48.14 | swdx | then edit the permission with this entry: ... sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/51-garmin.rules |
| 12:48.18 | xeviox | how can I switch to the postfix user from root? |
| 12:48.19 | themill | andiolsi: m68k is not an official port and rarely keeps up |
| 12:48.38 | themill | andiolsi: and no, packages quite often differ greatly across architectures |
| 12:49.23 | alexidoia | I think I can rephrase my problem by : |
| 12:49.25 | alexidoia | how can I look for a PID with the port ? such as who is using the port XX |
| 12:49.42 | swdx | SYSFS{idVendor}=="091e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0003", MODE="666" (editing the correct vendor id and id product) but my question is: the value MODE is always as "666" ??? |
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| 12:51.09 | alexidoia | anyone please ? |
| 12:52.38 | abrotman | alextreme: fuser -n tcp <portnum> |
| 12:54.17 | swdx | configuring garmin gps with a serial-usb cable...SYSFS{idVendor}=="091e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0003", MODE="666" (editing the correct vendor id and id product) but my question is: the value MODE is always as "666" ??? |
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| 12:56.53 | themill | swdx: what group is /dev/ttyUSB0 in? dialout? I recall adding myself to that group to use my gps at one stage... |
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| 13:02.20 | gnugr | gwibber is not working on debian-squeeze any idea? |
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| 13:04.33 | abrotman | not working in what way? |
| 13:05.03 | themill | abrotman: hasn't brought him a beer in hours |
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| 13:05.44 | gnugr | no messages incomming |
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| 13:08.52 | swdx | themill: viking soft. for exple. when i order get from gps it says: [working.... gps (not available).... do you know what would be missing to be configurated and share info btwn gps and pc.. ? |
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| 13:10.00 | swdx | do i have to be into the root group to acces the gps?? |
| 13:10.21 | themill | swdx: what's the output of "ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0" |
| 13:11.00 | swdx | themill: crw-rw-rw- 1 root dialout 188, 0 mar 1 13:29 /dev/ttyUSB0 |
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| 13:12.13 | themill | swdx: are you in the "dialout" group? what's the output of "groups" |
| 13:12.20 | Hadaka | I installed xorg 2.9 and the nvidia-glx 260.x packages from experimental |
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| 13:12.45 | Hadaka | now my compiz desktop wall switching is really slow |
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| 13:12.56 | Hadaka | what's a good channel to try and sort this out on? |
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| 13:13.10 | nkuttler | Hadaka: experimental is not supported |
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| 13:13.28 | Hadaka | nkuttler: hence my question |
| 13:14.13 | swdx | themill: i'm in "dialout" group.... the output groups says: cdrom floppy audio dip video netdev bluetooth scanner |
| 13:14.31 | themill | I can't see dialout in that list.... |
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| 13:15.28 | swdx | themill: * I'm NOT in the "dialout" group |
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| 13:16.06 | themill | "adduser your_username dialout" then log out and log back in again to join the group |
| 13:16.48 | swdx | themill: I'm adding myself to dialout group... ok comming back and tell you |
| 13:17.16 | abrotman | gnugr: maybe no one lieks you ? |
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| 13:20.03 | swdx | themill: i'm now at "dialout" group but not working !! |
| 13:20.05 | azizLIGHTS | i have slow internet, what to use to see the desktop over internet on a windows computer |
| 13:20.33 | Arafangion | azizLIGHTS: Avoid vnc, then. Try remote desktop, or nomachine. |
| 13:20.44 | azizLIGHTS | vnc is painful |
| 13:21.01 | azizLIGHTS | any packge in specific? |
| 13:21.33 | swdx | themill: viking soft knows my gps is attached to ttyUSB but gives this message: [working.... gps device (not available)] |
| 13:22.05 | Arafangion | azizLIGHTS: Possibly freenx, or rdesktop. The two are fundamentally different offerings. |
| 13:22.23 | themill | swdx: I've never used my gps in live mode with viking before, only to copy maps/tracks/waypoints back and forth. The GPS can speak a number of different protocols and I think for live position readouts it needs something other than "garman" to be selected -- can your gps run in "NMEA" mode? |
| 13:23.29 | swdx | themill: my gps can run in NMEA mode but it is now in normal mode |
| 13:25.16 | xeviox | ok I were able to get a better idea of the error, I found this log message: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 13:25.31 | xeviox | so postfix isn't able to connect to the mysql server |
| 13:25.39 | xeviox | but I don't know why |
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| 13:25.56 | xeviox | mysql server is configured to accept all connections on "localhost" |
| 13:26.03 | stew | xeviox: is the postfix process trying to connect chrooted? |
| 13:26.12 | xeviox | stew: I think so |
| 13:26.14 | vega- | hmm, where's dspam gone from squeeze.. |
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| 13:26.25 | stew | xeviox: does that socket exist in the chroot? |
| 13:26.44 | xeviox | stew: how can I check that? |
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| 13:27.21 | stew | vega-: it was never in squeeze, it was removed from testing in 2009 because of #514498 |
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| 13:28.52 | stew | xeviox: stat /var/spool/postfix/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 13:28.55 | stew | xeviox: (it won't be in there) |
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| 13:29.59 | xeviox | stew: no such file or directory |
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| 13:31.59 | xeviox | stew: so how can I get it there? |
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| 13:32.50 | stew | xeviox: i don't recommend putting it there, but if you want to, you'd have to reconfigure mysql, but this would screw up all the other applications trying to talk to mysql |
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| 13:33.07 | stew | xeviox: you could also hardlink the socket into the chroot EVERY time you restart mysql |
| 13:33.42 | stew | xeviox: i'd recommend instead that you either connect to mysql using tcp (like 127.0.0.1) instead of the domain socket, or just don't run this postfix process chrooted |
| 13:33.54 | themill | I recall that the postfix documentation describes ways of dealing with this problem in detail. |
| 13:34.43 | xeviox | themill: ok thanks, I'll check it :) |
| 13:34.48 | bubak | wishing nice day to everyone |
| 13:34.48 | bubak | after last sid update my touchpad (Lenovo T410s) is not recognized by synaptic driver no more, though it is functional |
| 13:34.48 | bubak | i used to switch the tablet off and used only ibm track point |
| 13:35.56 | bubak | xeviox: i used to update my mysql restart script so that it copied the sock file to chrooted postfix too |
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| 13:37.04 | xeviox | bubak: ok, I'll check what the documentation recommends ;) |
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| 13:37.53 | iElectric | http://paste2.org/p/1275693 any ideas? |
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| 13:40.04 | visof | can i know when the process start "time of the process" , using ps or even anything else ? |
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| 13:41.03 | xeviox | ok "master.cf" has "-" for chroot as the default seems to be "yes" it should run chrooted, right? |
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| 13:41.45 | vega- | anyone know of dspam packages for debian squeeze? |
| 13:42.27 | vega- | or maybe just install from unstable.. |
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| 13:43.24 | bubak | after last sid update my touchpad (Lenovo T410s) is not recognized by synaptic driver no more, though it is functional -- i used to tune it with synclient, ie. turn it off, only trackpoint left, any hints? |
| 13:44.22 | iElectric | upgrade to squeeze breaks python2.6 install |
| 13:44.27 | iElectric | any ideas? http://paste2.org/p/1275693 |
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| 13:44.43 | JyZyXEL | bubak: sid is not supported here |
| 13:44.53 | themill | dpkg: tell iElectric about local python |
| 13:45.29 | stew | vega-: you want to use it even though it is marked as unusable? |
| 13:45.36 | iElectric | themill: k |
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| 13:46.25 | xand | bubak: yes, don't use sid if you want things not to break. |
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| 13:46.52 | iElectric | themill: wth, why would that break it? |
| 13:46.55 | iElectric | anyway, thanks. |
| 13:47.36 | bubak | jyzyxel,xand: ok, just asking ;-) |
| 13:47.48 | vega- | stew: where is it "marked unusable" ? |
| 13:47.54 | themill | iElectric: because your locally compiled python doesn't know about the python modules that are installed and also doesn't know about fixes that were backported to debian's python 2.6 tree from later pythons. These fixes are required for correct installation of python packages. |
| 13:48.06 | stew | vega-: the but I pointed to for which it was removed from testing |
| 13:48.13 | stew | vega-: the bug* |
| 13:48.15 | vega- | stew: i'm just migrating from lenny and thinking what to do when it's missing from squeeze |
| 13:48.25 | vega- | stew: sorry missed that |
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| 13:50.24 | vega- | stew: ok read the bug report, don't really know.. it's been working for years just fine for me on lenny |
| 13:50.40 | vega- | guess i'll just need to find an alternative |
| 13:50.47 | gnugr | why gwibber does not work on debian-squeeze? |
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| 13:52.42 | zxd | why is dante-server no longer in lenny |
| 13:53.05 | vega- | so, any recommendations for replacing dspam? (other software is going to be postfix, clamav, postgrey, postfixadmi/mysql/ and dovecot-lda/imapd) |
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| 13:59.38 | xeviox | ok, setting up the link worked and removed the error, but it seems that the pipe to dovecot is broken, but I can't find any hint on a issue :( |
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| 14:13.32 | hid3 | Hello. Anyone know a good how-to for linux/debian software raid0 with mdadm? |
| 14:14.25 | dvs | !ask |
| 14:14.25 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 14:20.59 | bartzy | what's the name of the command that combines traceroute and ping ? |
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| 14:21.04 | bartzy | 3 letter word.. I can't find it :( |
| 14:21.12 | bartzy | mtr!!! |
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| 14:21.26 | bartzy | lol thanks :) |
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| 14:35.42 | khem_ | Hello, I have a Lenovo Edge 11", what can I do to get my WLAN drivers to work, the "Debian way" - are there any packages available? |
| 14:35.45 | khem_ | The WLAN card is a RTL8188CE |
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| 14:36.23 | abrotman | !rtl8188 |
| 14:36.29 | abrotman | eh .. that's not good |
| 14:36.35 | abrotman | !rtl8188ce |
| 14:36.35 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8188CE is a PCI-E 802.11n wireless LAN chipset (PCI-IDs 10ec:8176, 10ec:8177, 10ec:8178, 10ec:8191). Patches adding the vendor driver (rtl8192ce) to the mainline Linux kernel were submitted to the linux-wireless mailing list on 2010-12-08. For support of other Realtek 802.11n PCI-E devices, ask me about <rtl819x>. |
| 14:36.38 | abrotman | there we go |
| 14:36.50 | arvind_khadri | Do, firefox extensions work on iceweasel? |
| 14:36.59 | abrotman | arvind_khadri: generally .. some of them are even packaged |
| 14:37.20 | bman | yes arvind_khadri |
| 14:37.42 | bman | iceweasel is firefox with different branding only |
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| 14:39.19 | arvind_khadri | bman, am asking as am an extension developer, and want to switch over to Debian, from a very buggy OS |
| 14:39.56 | bman | arvind_khadri, i write extensions as well, i have never had to do anything to make mine work on iceweasel |
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| 14:43.01 | arvind_khadri | bman, cool :) |
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| 14:45.18 | RichiH | can anyone recommend a TAPI client, ideally for kde? /me has never needed one, so... |
| 14:47.12 | RichiH | and apt-cache search does not show anyhting, which is weird |
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| 15:01.06 | xeviox | can someone help me to bring postfix to deliver mails to dovecot? I don't know why it is not doing right now :( |
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| 15:03.18 | khem_ | abrotman: isnt 2.6.36.2 the mainline kernel? is there a Debian package for a mainline kernel after that date? Sorry doesnt have a webbrowser yet, need WLAN to get my desktop etc with reasonable speed |
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| 15:04.25 | abrotman | khem_: note the date which those patches were sent in .. 2.5 months ago .. doubt they made it into squeeze |
| 15:04.31 | KOJIbKA | hi all |
| 15:04.55 | khem_ | abrotman: thougt about the unstable dist ;-) |
| 15:05.07 | abrotman | khem_: up to you, other things are probably broken there |
| 15:05.13 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 15:05.14 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.38-rc6-686 (2.6.38~rc6-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.37-2-686 (2.6.37-2); wheezy: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-30~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
| 15:05.45 | dvs | no wheezy-backports? |
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| 15:06.17 | khem_ | hrm |
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| 15:06.21 | khem_ | maybe sid will work then |
| 15:06.22 | khem_ | will tyr |
| 15:06.27 | khem_ | s/tyr/try/g |
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| 15:06.53 | abrotman | dvs: not yet apparently |
| 15:07.05 | abrotman | dvs: it exists, but apparently not the kernel yet |
| 15:07.12 | khem_ | oh |
| 15:07.16 | khem_ | it havent come to sid already.. |
| 15:07.25 | khem_ | i thought so :p |
| 15:07.39 | khem_ | then I will have to compile the kernel on my own |
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| 15:13.57 | KOJIbKA | for last 20 hours or so i'm playing with squeeze install. everything looks better than lenny. though my laptop synaptics touchpad behaves in a strange manner. coursor is moving but not able to tap an objects. installed 'gpointing-device-settings' package. it has option to disable tap. nevermind what is set - tapping on touchpad gives no result. any idea? |
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| 15:21.26 | engla | I can apt-get update (tracking testing) since yesterday. Is my mirror broken? |
| 15:21.44 | engla | (hash match failure) |
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| 15:25.11 | khem_ | 5~6~ |
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| 15:30.15 | relnew | hi |
| 15:30.27 | relnew | how do i install debian on an xp PC |
| 15:30.31 | relnew | any links appreciated |
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| 15:31.57 | relnew | i have an existing xp partition, would like to install debian on it |
| 15:32.52 | jhutchins_lt | !tell relnew about ig |
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| 15:33.13 | engla | relnew: does it have a cabled (ethernet) internet connection? Use the network install cd |
| 15:33.22 | relnew | i have the cd |
| 15:33.40 | relnew | its all downloaded |
| 15:33.50 | relnew | just trying to see how i do the dual boot installation |
| 15:33.52 | engla | You don't need more than 1 CD |
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| 15:34.04 | dvs | relnew: Debian (and linux in general) needs its own partition. |
| 15:34.51 | jhutchins_lt | dvs: Actually, it's possible to run it off the windows partition, but not usuall. |
| 15:35.01 | dvs | yuck! |
| 15:35.33 | relnew | ok i boot the cd? and then its automatic? |
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| 15:35.44 | relnew | i just need to tell how much space should be allotted for linux right? |
| 15:36.04 | engla | relnew: you need to fill in some details about the partitioning if you want dual boot |
| 15:36.12 | kuna | hi, how do I encript /home in a laptop sl400 w/Squeeze (ext4), any link? |
| 15:36.16 | jhutchins_lt | relnew: You will have a much more enjoyable experience if you read the install guide that dpkg sent you a message about. |
| 15:36.25 | relnew | ok |
| 15:36.34 | relnew | just one thing. can i install debian inside of windows? |
| 15:36.35 | relnew | if so how |
| 15:37.00 | Ogmios | relnew: virtualbox |
| 15:37.21 | relnew | without vbox or vmware i cant install debian inside of windows? |
| 15:37.24 | Stefunel | guys, I want to port my root partition to a ssd, should a usual copy files from one place to another be enough? |
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| 15:37.44 | nsadmin | relnew: well if you virtualize, they can run at the same time |
| 15:38.09 | jhutchins_lt | relnew: What is it you want to do? Debian is an Operating System distribution. It runs instead of windows, not inside it. |
| 15:38.11 | relnew | im not trying to virtualize or anything |
| 15:38.20 | nsadmin | but not linux "inside" windows; closest to that would be something like cygwin |
| 15:38.23 | relnew | i just want to install debian inside of windows |
| 15:38.43 | relnew | and then i want to boot into linux |
| 15:38.45 | engla | relnew: run the installer as a windows program? |
| 15:38.49 | nsadmin | why? what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 15:38.49 | relnew | yes |
| 15:38.52 | relnew | the debian installer |
| 15:39.06 | engla | relnew: I think ubuntu can do that, but there is no point |
| 15:39.15 | nsadmin | what do you mean by "inside"? |
| 15:39.29 | jhutchins_lt | relnew: If you're not even going to look at the install guide there's not much point in replying to you. |
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| 15:39.50 | relnew | jhutchins_lt: i willl |
| 15:39.56 | relnew | engla: why is there no point to that? |
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| 15:41.35 | relnew | jhutchins_lt: in your installation link where does it talk about this what im asking about |
| 15:41.43 | relnew | you've given me the entire bible on installation |
| 15:42.15 | Ogmios | relnew: teaching a man to fish vs. giving away the fish. |
| 15:42.56 | relnew | thats nice |
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| 15:43.14 | relnew | so i cant install debian from within xp/ besides using vmware or some such? |
| 15:43.16 | relnew | or cygwin |
| 15:43.28 | nsadmin | relnew, if you give a man a fish... he can eat that day... |
| 15:43.28 | engla | relnew: just boot the installation CD :-) |
| 15:43.34 | relnew | there's gotta be a way to install via cd mounting |
| 15:43.42 | nsadmin | if you teach a man to fish, he sits on the boat getting drunk all day... |
| 15:43.59 | engla | relnew: you don't need to read the manual, but if you have questions go back to it. And if you don't have backups then you're on your own |
| 15:44.12 | nsadmin | relnew: there could be. look it up |
| 15:45.40 | relnew | i guess could just boot it |
| 15:45.44 | nsadmin | right, if you're going to install this, we're assuming you're fully backed up. plus, it would be nice if you either say "I'm fully backed up" or "I care nothing about what;s on the drives in this computer I'm going to install debian on" |
| 15:46.18 | relnew | its backed up, but i just didnt want to have to install it from boot, preferred to do it from within windows |
| 15:46.45 | nsadmin | there's goodbye-windows.com |
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| 15:47.13 | nsadmin | I probably don't have the name exactly right, but they have an installer that runs under windows that replaces it |
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| 15:47.40 | relnew | nsadmin: oh cool |
| 15:47.43 | relnew | thats it |
| 15:47.51 | nsadmin | for other choices and details on the choices already offered... see the install guide |
| 15:48.16 | relnew | i think this is what i wanted, but tno to replace xp but i think goodbye-windows works |
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| 15:48.47 | nsadmin | no guarantees; look into it to make sure |
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| 15:49.49 | relnew | ok |
| 15:50.02 | relnew | curious, why doesn't debian have that option like ubntu does? |
| 15:50.06 | relnew | what's the bad side to it? |
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| 15:50.21 | relnew | engla pointed out it had no point in doing that |
| 15:50.25 | nsadmin | is there one? |
| 15:50.30 | relnew | yeah ubuntu you can |
| 15:50.40 | nsadmin | is there a bad side? |
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| 15:51.07 | relnew | engla said so |
| 15:51.11 | engla | relnew: the only difference is that you save burning that CD |
| 15:51.17 | Ogmios | relnew: I think ubuntu does it because it is like a linux gateway distro for those migrating to linux |
| 15:51.58 | Ogmios | that is what ubuntu's claim to fame is/was, linux for the uninitiated |
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| 15:52.44 | relnew | ok |
| 15:53.35 | bman | i thought ubuntus claim to fame was debian with nonfree drivers |
| 15:53.59 | engla | it's a bit more than that |
| 15:54.09 | engla | also debian is debian with nonfree drivers |
| 15:54.31 | bman | debian++ |
| 15:54.45 | nsadmin | stated that way, prople wouldn't understand... and so that wouldn't qualify as a "claim to fame" |
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| 15:55.15 | nsadmin | easy linux, maybe that's the claim |
| 15:55.23 | khem_ | How do I get firmware packages for Realtek WiFi card and Radeon? Is there any Debian packages? |
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| 15:55.47 | nsadmin | there might be non-free firmware in some package |
| 15:55.52 | khem_ | and how do I add contrib and non-free in (sources.list), Sorry, asking all this but just got the console no webbrowser :-( |
| 15:56.00 | khem_ | ahh thanks nsadmin |
| 15:56.12 | nsadmin | !firmware |
| 15:56.12 | dpkg | Firmware (sometimes termed "microcode") is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel modules require firmware to be provided from userspace, prior to device operation, notably for <WiFi> devices. Ask me about <listkeys firmware> and <search> my factoids. Some firmware is available via Debian packages. See also http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware and <installer firmware>. |
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| 15:57.02 | khem_ | dpkg: listkeys firmware |
| 15:57.04 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'firmware' by key (15 of 28): _default open firmware ;; _default openfirmware ;; alsa firmware ;; atheros firmware ;; firmware images ;; firmware iso ;; firmware-linux-free ;; ivtv firmware ;; iwlagn firmware ;; open firmware ;; radeon firmware ;; radeonhd firmware ;; ralink firmware ;; realtek firmware ;; rtl8192u firmware. |
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| 15:57.59 | khem_ | nsadmin: How do I add contrib / non-free, just replace main with contrib or non-free, or add that afterwards? |
| 15:58.01 | relnew | i should get the netinstall for netbooks right? |
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| 15:58.23 | nsadmin | you can add them after "main" |
| 15:58.37 | relnew | oh ok |
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| 16:00.28 | nsadmin | the number of people who want to help you are dropping since you seem too lazy to read the ig |
| 16:00.46 | nsadmin | as for me, I'm going to go walk my turtle |
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| 16:01.45 | relnew | ok the netinstall is only 189 MB? |
| 16:02.01 | khem_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.23 | relnew | thats really small wow |
| 16:02.49 | khem_ | thanx for the tips btw got all the repos now |
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| 16:03.57 | jhutchins_lt | relnew: Just enough to get you up and running. |
| 16:04.08 | relnew | thts really small in comparison to most |
| 16:04.11 | relnew | impressive |
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| 16:05.23 | damex | hi, can i install any current debian from dvd/cd media to usb pendrive ? or i need to use debootstrap and there are no other way "debian way" doing that? |
| 16:05.53 | jhutchins_lt | !tell damex about ig |
| 16:07.11 | nsadmin | relnew: supposedly you can install all the rest using a network connection, if you can get it set up... if you can set it up early in the install process, it will install everything from the net and will remember your net setup |
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| 16:08.01 | damex | i will use debootstrap then >_> too much bloated info on that pages, jhutchins_lt |
| 16:08.04 | damex | :( |
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| 16:13.28 | relnew | ok downloading |
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| 16:13.50 | del_diablo2 | X is not starting because it can't find the nvidia module, which is already made using module assistant. How do I insert it? I can find it via searching via modprobe -l, but I can't actually insert it :( |
| 16:14.27 | kuna | how do I encript /home in a laptop sl400 w/Squeeze (ext4), any link? |
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| 16:15.00 | Bushmills | kuna: check out encfs |
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| 16:18.11 | kuna | Bushmills: thx I did, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EncFS wasnt helpfull EncFS is the really best option? |
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| 16:18.26 | relnew | ~btw btw |
| 16:18.42 | relnew | if my connectio is slow or i have no ethernet cable connection, how do i install debian |
| 16:18.44 | Bushmills | can't say anything about "best", but it is one of the feasable options, and simple to set up |
| 16:19.14 | relnew | netinstall requires an ethernet cable connnection |
| 16:19.24 | relnew | i have no access to that, any alternatives? |
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| 16:20.22 | kuna | Bushmills: I see... well let me try, thx for your advice. |
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| 16:21.25 | relnew | will the netinstall just do a basic install atleast enough to boot up debian? |
| 16:21.36 | relnew | without having the need for a ethernet cable while installing |
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| 16:21.53 | jhutchins_lt | relnew: netinstall is possible over some wireless, but you can also download the first CD or first DVD and do a reasonable install from that. |
| 16:22.33 | relnew | jhutchins_lt: yeah im downloading the netinstall iso, but during installation if i have no internet, will the installation continue with just the base system files and enough to boot debian? |
| 16:22.59 | jhutchins_lt | relnew: I think it's supposed to do that. |
| 16:23.02 | acemi | relnew: yes, it can install base system |
| 16:23.18 | jhutchins_lt | I've only run the installer a handful of times since etch. |
| 16:23.28 | relnew | ok cool, im reading the guide and it talks about installing, desktop, notebook, etc. so without internet i should avoid those installs at boot? |
| 16:23.41 | jhutchins_lt | is no longer building 200 linux boxes a week. |
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| 16:24.03 | relnew | so without the internet, netinstall should give me a basic debian system to boot up from but from VT i believe? |
| 16:24.09 | relnew | no display managers, nothing right? |
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| 16:24.25 | nsadmin | correct |
| 16:24.29 | nsadmin | no X |
| 16:24.36 | nsadmin | it installs what's called the base |
| 16:24.53 | nsadmin | which is just enough to fix core problems and install more packages |
| 16:25.10 | relnew | okay thx |
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| 16:36.44 | Hideme | can anyone suggest some methods for fixing an error "grub kernel must be loaded before booting" ? |
| 16:36.52 | NoReflex | hello! can anyone help me get apache to run a command as another user? I want to check the status of a process from my browser. the problem is that the status is only returned if the user running the command is the user running the process. I'm trying to add the configuration to /etc/sudoers but no luck so far |
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| 16:37.36 | NoReflex | I tried: www-data ALL=(the_user) NOPASSWD: /opt/the_process/status_check |
| 16:37.52 | Ogmios | NoReflex: I had a similar issue and I wrote a script to write the status to a file that is reable by apache |
| 16:39.48 | Ogmios | run the script as the owner of the process of course |
| 16:40.42 | homie | kdesudo is totally buggy |
| 16:40.43 | homie | bleh |
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| 16:42.58 | chrisb | how can i trouble shoot to find the cause of a crash? syslog and messages don't show anything at the time of failure |
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| 16:43.28 | chrisb | i'm usually away from the machine, not using it when it crashes...temperature? |
| 16:43.40 | chrisb | failed hibernate? |
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| 16:47.09 | km | you normally only need gcc and make development tools to build source code, right? |
| 16:47.55 | timo | km: plus all the libraries your source uses |
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| 16:50.18 | sled-dog | what x86 level does target ? 586? 686? |
| 16:50.32 | km | i see. |
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| 16:59.53 | nsadmin | Hideme, method 1... read the error message |
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| 17:09.25 | JordiGH | I catted a CD netinst iso to a usb pendrive. It boots fine, but during installation it fails because it's looking for a CD ROM. |
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| 17:10.23 | JordiGH | What am I doing wrong? |
| 17:10.56 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: That sounds like the old netinst image. |
| 17:11.26 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: The CD images for squeeze should go right to the net. |
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| 17:12.51 | JordiGH | jhutchins_lt: I think it *is* the one for squeeze. |
| 17:13.13 | JordiGH | Using a CD seems so wasteful... I guess I could give in and burn the iso the netinst. |
| 17:13.24 | JordiGH | Is that more or less wasteful than downloading another ISO? |
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| 17:14.28 | Zao | JordiGH: Grab the stable boot.img.gz, zcat it to your USB stick, mount, copy the corresponding netinst iso to the stick. |
| 17:14.49 | Zao | Supposedly you should be able to do without an ISO, but I didn't manage to get that working the other day. |
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| 17:14.54 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Up to you. I'm not sure why this is happening to some people. For due dilligence I should drag an old box out of the basement and try various install techniques on it, see if I can break any of 'em. |
| 17:14.58 | JordiGH | Zao: Yeah, that's what I usually had been doing. But I read in the installation manual that you could just cat CD isos now. |
| 17:15.28 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: I used unetbootin on linux to create the pre-release installer here and it went smooth as could be. |
| 17:15.39 | JordiGH | I guess Zao's suggestion is least wasteful. |
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| 17:15.58 | JordiGH | jhutchins_lt: Wait, are you on the d-i team_ |
| 17:16.00 | JordiGH | ? |
| 17:16.27 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, the .gz is not intended for use without an iso iirc. |
| 17:16.33 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Not really. |
| 17:16.49 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Hence the failure of iniative so far. |
| 17:17.01 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Somebody's gotta do it though. |
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| 17:19.16 | lapfrog | hey the tray icon says a package manager is working even though none is |
| 17:19.21 | lapfrog | (i did an upgrade) |
| 17:19.26 | lapfrog | (and it finished) |
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| 17:20.21 | jhutchins | lapfrog: Which release are you on? |
| 17:20.27 | Arrowmaster | the icon sticks around for a little while sometimes |
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| 17:21.38 | dogmeat | i installed business card iso, but there is nothing for development. how can i get these basic tools? right now i just need make |
| 17:21.52 | JordiGH | aptitude install build-essential |
| 17:22.25 | dogmeat | thanks |
| 17:22.51 | jhutchins | dogmeat: You'll need a network source. |
| 17:23.41 | lapfrog | erp stable i forgot was it squeeze? |
| 17:23.49 | lapfrog | what i did was |
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| 17:24.17 | lapfrog | the icon was red (new packages are available), then i did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean |
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| 17:24.36 | lapfrog | and after those finished, the black icon "a package manager is working" appeared in the tray (still there) |
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| 17:24.58 | jhutchins | lapfrog: Interesting. This must be gnome? |
| 17:25.20 | jhutchins | lapfrog: This implies that the database is locked. |
| 17:25.27 | lapfrog | gnome yes |
| 17:25.31 | lapfrog | how do i make it reconsider? |
| 17:25.34 | dogmeat | jhutchins, looks like it's using ftp.us.debian.org, but i dont know if it's pulling from the closest site or not |
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| 17:25.49 | jhutchins | dogmeat: That should be good enough. |
| 17:26.28 | dogmeat | i recall an apt-source tool that would determine the closest site, apt-net something? |
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| 17:27.23 | maplebed | hi, when specifying a version dependency in a control file, is the syntax for "greater than X and less than Y" python-boto (>= 1.9b-4 << 2.0) ? or is there a comma or something else I need? I only see single version dependencies here: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html |
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| 17:31.58 | dkr | maplebed: I'd do python-boto (>= 1.9b-4), python-boto (<< 2.0) |
| 17:32.02 | dkr | but I'm not sure |
| 17:32.12 | maplebed | huh... |
| 17:32.18 | dkr | actually, that doesn't make sense |
| 17:32.36 | maplebed | well, what I have above is certainly wrong (make deb fails " `Depends' field, reference to `python-boto': version contains ` '") |
| 17:32.41 | maplebed | trying a comma... |
| 17:33.14 | maplebed | nope, not that either. |
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| 17:33.27 | maplebed | I suppose I can just say = 1.9b-4, but that's lame. |
| 17:34.01 | Bushmills | relnew: buy a computer journal with DVD - the journals are swamping the market with squeeze install disks at the moment |
| 17:34.18 | qknight | dpkg/apt-get use /var/lib/dpkg to query which software is installed in the system, right? |
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| 17:35.02 | maplebed | the debian dev channel is debian-devel, right? it won't let me in (haven't been invited). ::sigh:: |
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| 17:35.41 | dkr | maplebed: try #debian-mentors perhaps |
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| 17:36.04 | ansgar | maplebed: #debian-devel is not on Freenode. |
| 17:36.12 | maplebed | oh. |
| 17:36.16 | maplebed | :D |
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| 17:38.51 | felipec | hmm, I can't update or do anything: "dpkg: too many errors, stopping" |
| 17:39.02 | felipec | how can I clear all the pending updates |
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| 17:42.46 | gnugr | felipec: check your sources.list and take a look here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/debian-squeeze-repositories-709694/ |
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| 17:44.30 | Hideme | nsadmin, excellent help! You should look into a teaching career. |
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| 17:47.55 | valdyn | Hideme: so did you figure out yet how to load a kernel from grub? or did you not google? |
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| 17:58.45 | arvind_khadri | Hi, facebook doesn't work on Iceweasel? |
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| 17:58.48 | phix | hey |
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| 17:59.08 | phix | I want to set permission on a dm-crypt device using udev |
| 17:59.44 | phix | problem I am having is dm-crypt devices are dynamically created and a symlink is created in /dev/mapper |
| 18:00.03 | phix | I can't set a mode on a symlink so how do I get around this? |
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| 18:00.51 | JordiGH | arvind_khadri: s/on Iceweasel// |
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| 18:01.07 | JordiGH | arvind_khadri: http://jordi.platinum.linux.pl/piccies/ni-dieu-ni-maitre.jpg |
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| 18:01.15 | phix | so how do I match this in udev? |
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| 18:02.27 | amphi | JordiGH: "ni dios, ni amo, ni facebook", heh |
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| 18:02.53 | JordiGH | amphi: Known Mexican software anarchists gave me those stickers. :-) |
| 18:03.12 | amphi | JordiGH: very nice |
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| 18:03.40 | phix | The main reason I want to do this is I want to mount a dm-crypt (using cryttab and cryptdisk_start via sudo) and mount it as a user so that user can write to it |
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| 18:04.49 | homie | phix: you map basically with crypttab some device to another |
| 18:05.00 | homie | phix: just set options for the original device |
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| 18:05.39 | homie | err device-mapper i meant |
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| 18:05.58 | homie | i mean not above but above above |
| 18:06.17 | homie | err s/crypttab/device-mapper/ |
| 18:06.20 | homie | heh better |
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| 18:06.37 | smartviking | Hello, how do I install aircrack-ng along with it's dependencies? I'm using debian 6 amd64, and It's not in my repos? |
| 18:06.48 | gnugr | phix: do you know about mc? if yes run mc on terminal go into directory you want and useing "file" on mc set your permissions |
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| 18:07.37 | homie | midnight commander ? |
| 18:07.43 | homie | eheh |
| 18:07.43 | gnugr | yes |
| 18:08.01 | gnugr | easy to setup permissions |
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| 18:08.12 | homie | yes good idea to try first setting the options manually and then try to configure udev for it |
| 18:08.18 | JordiGH | smartviking: Huh, looks like it got removed from testing? |
| 18:08.24 | homie | or whatever config thing... |
| 18:08.37 | gnugr | you need to get into mc as su |
| 18:08.44 | xyriphe | smartviking: It's in my unstable at least. |
| 18:08.58 | nHarzilei | whats wrong with using chmod [ugo][-+=][rwx]? its easy enough. nobody needs to know octal to use chmod |
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| 18:09.17 | smartviking | JordiGH: I don't know, i added "security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free" to my sources list and updated and it's not there |
| 18:09.27 | JordiGH | smartviking: Yes, the package is not in testing. |
| 18:09.36 | themill | !why is aircrack-ng not in testings |
| 18:09.36 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, themill |
| 18:09.38 | themill | !why is aircrack-ng not in testing |
| 18:09.42 | JordiGH | Looks like it's because of #588588 |
| 18:09.44 | JordiGH | It's RC. |
| 18:09.51 | themill | dpkg: stupid bot |
| 18:09.51 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
| 18:10.02 | smartviking | JordiGH: Do you have any tips for how to install it? |
| 18:10.02 | JordiGH | http://bugs.debian.org/588588 |
| 18:10.03 | homie | lol |
| 18:10.05 | JordiGH | lol |
| 18:10.16 | JordiGH | smartviking: Just grab the unstable package. |
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| 18:10.40 | gnugr | debian users are not stupid |
| 18:11.07 | smartviking | JordiGH: Where would that be located at, and would it get the dependencies installed? |
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| 18:11.30 | nHarzilei | grabbed the source from unstable and compiled it after apt-get build-deps |
| 18:11.47 | smartviking | brbrbrb compile O.o |
| 18:11.59 | jelly-home | gnugr: speak for yourself! |
| 18:12.00 | JordiGH | !simple sid backport |
| 18:12.00 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add ONLY a <deb-src> line for sid to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 18:12.39 | JordiGH | smartviking: So you're gonna be testing the security of your WEP networks? ;-) |
| 18:13.20 | smartviking | JordiGH: Cannot aircrack-ng crack WPA? |
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| 18:13.30 | JordiGH | Nothing can so far. |
| 18:13.35 | JordiGH | Well, you can try. |
| 18:13.38 | gnugr | phix: if you know where is the you can also setup permissions useing: sudo chown -R username:username /home/anything/ * |
| 18:13.40 | smartviking | hm |
| 18:13.43 | JordiGH | If you have aeons of patience. |
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| 18:14.04 | justin_ | you can attack the wpa passphrase |
| 18:14.05 | JordiGH | I mean, you can try to brute force WPA keys with aircrack. |
| 18:14.15 | justin_ | most people use stupid dictionary words |
| 18:14.29 | JordiGH | Yeah, dictionary attacks work many many times. |
| 18:14.32 | justin_ | there are rainbow tables and everything for the |
| 18:14.37 | smartviking | yeah I once found one with "123456789" as the password |
| 18:14.45 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 18:14.47 | damex | hm ... i want some help with b43 wifi card (oooooooold acer 1510 notebook) ... its installing firmware (tool from repositories) and getting up wlan interface fine ... but its can't scan network (im running b/g/n ap, dir-300b1). |
| 18:14.49 | JordiGH | smartviking: In your own network? |
| 18:15.01 | damex | http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx used that wiki page to get it up. |
| 18:15.05 | nHarzilei | JordiGH: %-) |
| 18:15.20 | jhutchins_lt | gnugr: "Just grab the unstable package" is almost never appropriate advice to give someone here. |
| 18:15.21 | smartviking | JordiGH: nah I was in a cafe with my laptop, and I have the habit of testing passwords like that if I want internte |
| 18:15.31 | JordiGH | "Testing passwords". |
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| 18:15.52 | JordiGH | jhutchins_lt: Sorry, my bad. But in this case the only bug the package is a stupid licensing issue. |
| 18:15.58 | JordiGH | Which has been resolved. |
| 18:16.25 | gnugr | i use mc for all permissions i need |
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| 18:17.57 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: Nevertheless, always better to do a ssb and preserve as much stability as possible. |
| 18:18.14 | JordiGH | jhutchins_lt: I kinda meant ssb when I said "grab the unstable package". |
| 18:18.23 | nHarzilei | gnugr: i really only consider mc useful when i want to pick a lot of random files among lots of other files for copy/move |
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| 18:18.48 | JordiGH | Man, it sure takes a long time to shred(1) a hard drive. |
| 18:18.50 | nHarzilei | gnugr: for everything else (mostly including filesystem navigation) shell is better suited |
| 18:18.52 | JordiGH | Is that what d-i does? |
| 18:19.02 | JordiGH | I told it to encrypt the hard drive, so I'm guessing it's first filling it with junk. |
| 18:19.08 | JordiGH | It's taken like 30 min to be 10% one. |
| 18:19.09 | JordiGH | done |
| 18:19.19 | gnugr | nHarzilei: also for chown and chmod |
| 18:19.44 | nHarzilei | gnugr: as i said, i dont see any advantage over using chown and chmod |
| 18:20.31 | gnugr | i use my debian-squeeze as server running apache2-mysql-phpmyadmin, so i need it |
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| 18:22.00 | jhutchins_lt | JordiGH: A megabyte is still a million bytes. |
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| 18:22.51 | jhutchins_lt | gnugr: It's good to learn to do it properly from the command line. mc is a crutch. |
| 18:23.03 | gnugr | i agree |
| 18:23.09 | jhutchins_lt | gnugr: Also good to pay attention to the queries that phpmyadmin uses so that you can learn to use them directly. |
| 18:23.57 | gnugr | but mc helps me to setup a server in 10mins |
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| 18:25.08 | gnugr | i run fengoffice, joomla and a hub on dc++ |
| 18:25.37 | gnugr | debian-squeeze works fine as server |
| 18:26.40 | gnugr | the only prob i have with debian-squeeze is gwibber |
| 18:27.02 | gnugr | does not work |
| 18:27.10 | chrisb | ,fengoffice |
| 18:27.16 | gnugr | yes |
| 18:27.50 | gnugr | great software for personal data-base |
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| 18:28.29 | gnugr | better than openerp |
| 18:28.31 | chrisb | gnugr: i couldn't find it in apt-cache |
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| 18:28.42 | gnugr | google it |
| 18:28.54 | arvind_khadri | Hi, iceweasel complains of missing plugins on github, what should I install, as when I click on install missing plugins, it shows no plugin. |
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| 18:30.28 | JordiGH | arvind_khadri: I guess it's Flash? |
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| 18:31.16 | arvind_khadri | JordiGH, umm, a clip board icon doesn't show up. Thats flash? |
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| 18:31.37 | rhadha | how to I set ssh_config to accept ssh connections only from mystatic ip address and nowhere else |
| 18:31.42 | JordiGH | arvind_khadri: Doesn't iceweasel tell you what plugin it's looking for? Read carefully. |
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| 18:32.10 | arvind_khadri | JordiGH, it doesn't :( |
| 18:32.24 | JordiGH | arvind_khadri: Read the source. |
| 18:33.31 | gnugr | rhadha: ssh helps you to connect with any ip address |
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| 18:34.24 | Targeter | Hi, I'm having a major issue. I just installed Debian with the BSD kernel and my LAMP stack isn |
| 18:34.27 | Targeter | t working |
| 18:34.29 | gnugr | rhadha: ssh -l <ip address> paswd |
| 18:34.35 | jari_ | i have noticed that dpkg-reconfigure cron (and dpkg-reconfigure --all) fails in squeeze - i wonder if anyone else is having this problem as i don't see any related bug reports? i have had this problem with all fresh squeeze installations i've done so far |
| 18:34.43 | rhadha | What I mean is that I can connect from my ip address and that no one can access ssh from anywhere else |
| 18:34.51 | Targeter | basically apache2 and mysql work just fine but PHP5 won't install without segfaulting apache |
| 18:35.25 | rhadha | ie block anyone trying from any other ip address |
| 18:36.21 | gnugr | rhadha: you must create an no-ip account nad setup your external ip so thwn anyone can connect on your system |
| 18:36.33 | gnugr | and* |
| 18:36.35 | Bushmills | rhadha: you'd probably prefer to use iptables to that end |
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| 18:37.38 | rhadha | what about allow host deny host files? |
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| 18:38.23 | Bushmills | that's also an option. but with iptables, you have better control on access conditions |
| 18:38.50 | rhadha | i have never used ip tables before |
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| 18:39.10 | Bushmills | may be a good idea to look into it when you allows world to reach your machine |
| 18:39.37 | rhadha | well root is disabled in the ssh config |
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| 18:40.22 | Bushmills | use of key authentication instead of password would be good too |
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| 18:40.58 | jari_ | who maintains the script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/cron.postinst? cron package maintainer? |
| 18:41.01 | rhadha | yes key authenication sounds the best just now |
| 18:41.20 | thewanderer1 | or OTP if you can't carry keys around / use them safely in public places |
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| 18:42.09 | rhadha | Bushmills: can you point me to a howto for key authentication please |
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| 18:43.19 | Bushmills | rhadha: not really. ssh-keygen. place public key in /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 18:43.48 | Bushmills | set permissions on .ssh and files restrictive |
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| 18:44.26 | denisesball | hey all, how do i create a new initrd for a 2.4 kernel without udev when all rescue cds use 2.6 kernels with udev? |
| 18:45.33 | rhadha | Bushmills: ok thanks sounds good to me |
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| 18:47.01 | jari_ | could someone with squeeze please run "dpkg-reconfigure cron" as root and see if it fails? |
| 18:48.02 | Targeter | it does |
| 18:48.08 | Targeter | it can't find the cron package |
| 18:48.28 | jari_ | do you have it installed? |
| 18:48.31 | Targeter | yes |
| 18:48.41 | jari_ | ok thanks |
| 18:48.42 | Targeter | ii cron 3.0pl1-116 process scheduling daemon |
| 18:49.20 | kba | I've just been informed from my vserv provider that my account has been sending out spam emails and when I look in /var/mail/wanze (my account) it's full of all sort of crap, but I have no idea how to figure out where it's coming from |
| 18:49.55 | kba | any suggestions on how I trace this? I'm just running some trivial stuff like a php webserver and such |
| 18:50.25 | kba | but I don't believe any logins have been compromised, I've never noticed any other IPs than my own when I've logged in |
| 18:50.30 | kba | logged in to SSH that is |
| 18:50.42 | Targeter | getting sick of php segfaulting apache |
| 18:50.44 | Targeter | :P |
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| 18:52.30 | _jesse_ | hmm, I restarted and am now getting some very annoying static noises through the speakers, not really sure where to start looking to diagnose that |
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| 18:52.40 | jari_ | kba: are you sure your mail server isn't an open relay? |
| 18:52.46 | jari_ | kba: http://www.checkor.com/ |
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| 18:54.12 | petemc | kba: check the mail log to see how the mails were submitted |
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| 18:54.40 | gnugr | good idea to setup a mailsever |
| 18:55.00 | gnugr | where can i read instructions? |
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| 18:56.47 | kba | jari_: Relay access denied |
| 18:56.49 | kba | petemc: I'll jstu do that |
| 18:57.07 | petemc | the most likely cause is php being abused |
| 18:57.36 | Targeter | anybody have this issue with apache and php5? as soon as php installs, apache segfaults |
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| 18:57.55 | Targeter | debian squeeze with the bsd kernel |
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| 19:01.32 | kba | petemc: you mean /var/log/mail.log right? But I don't really know what exactly to look for |
| 19:02.13 | kba | petemc: yes, php being abused was my thought too, I just can't figure out where that'd happen, I don't anywhere have file uploads or any shell_cmd() or something along those lines |
| 19:02.17 | petemc | kba: which mail server do you use? |
| 19:02.57 | kba | I can't really remember, I haven't been using this server for a long time; I probably even't wasn't the one to set up the mail server |
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| 19:03.06 | kba | but the lines from the log looks something like this: |
| 19:03.07 | kba | Mar 1 19:56:52 dex postfix/smtp[6581]: C5C852129D03: to=<naidooy@nu.ac.za>, relay=none, delay=49458, delays=49265/72/120/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to nu.ac.za[146.230.128.6]:25: Connection timed out) |
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| 19:03.10 | thewanderer1 | Targeter: err, maybe run it as FastCGI? |
| 19:04.05 | Targeter | its just the standard packages so i dunno why its doing that. but i could try fast cgi |
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| 19:07.09 | MrGeneral | folks, can you get me the USA link to netinstall, debian lenny?:) |
| 19:07.31 | kba | petemc: do you have any ideas? |
| 19:07.57 | c0nsense | Hi, i need from help! "snmpget -v 1 -c general -Oqv 127.0.0.1 IF-MIB::ifInOctets.2" error > Timeout: No Response from 127.0.0.1 .... any idea? smpd and snmp installed. |
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| 19:08.15 | c0nsense | snmpd.conf rocommunity public |
| 19:08.16 | c0nsense | trapsink 172.31.31.1/24 public |
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| 19:08.32 | petemc | kba: that log snippet didnt seem to show how it was submitted. if it was submitted locally, then you should compare web server log time stamps with mail log time stamps to see if you can identify problem |
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| 19:09.20 | kba | damn me for having individual weblogs for each domain and subdomain |
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| 19:11.24 | ouned | hi guys. big problem here. I downloaded debian squeeze cd 1 and installed the system + gnome on my notebook. I didnt made the network configuration because it only supported WEP wlan keys. Now I have a system which doesnt support wlan and LAN does also not work. Help? Oo |
| 19:11.53 | ouned | Oh and the Systempreferences only shows "loginscreen" |
| 19:12.00 | PyroPhelia | quick noob questionn, how to restart my networking interface so that changes in /etc/network/interfaces take effect. ifconfig eth0 restart restarts the interfaces, but it keeps the old IP |
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| 19:13.10 | valdyn | PyroPhelia: ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 |
| 19:13.15 | PyroPhelia | did that, same effect |
| 19:13.22 | PyroPhelia | only thing that works is a full restart |
| 19:13.39 | valdyn | PyroPhelia: no, the difference is that ifdown uses /etc/network/interfaces while ifconfig does not |
| 19:13.46 | PyroPhelia | oh |
| 19:13.52 | PyroPhelia | sorry I missed that |
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| 19:14.00 | PyroPhelia | hmm |
| 19:14.34 | PyroPhelia | ok here's a different problem, i'm 30 miles from the box. will ; allow the interfaces to come back up? cause i'm not going to be able to drive up there |
| 19:14.46 | PyroPhelia | at least no time soon |
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| 19:15.30 | valdyn | PyroPhelia: im not sure, you should use nohup |
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| 19:15.51 | valdyn | PyroPhelia: or a screen session |
| 19:16.03 | PyroPhelia | screen might work |
| 19:16.25 | valdyn | PyroPhelia: ; is a queue for this, so both commands will run anyway contrary to && |
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| 19:16.51 | valdyn | PyroPhelia: but i dont know how this will work with a drop in the link, hence screen |
| 19:17.09 | PyroPhelia | yea I'll use screen thanks |
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| 19:17.23 | Targeter | so weird that 5.3.7 would crash apache...wonder if the bsd kernel is the reason |
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| 19:17.57 | Circuitsoft | Any idea why udisks won't mount my thumb drive? http://paste.debian.net/109288/ |
| 19:18.23 | PyroPhelia | it worked, didn't even get dsync |
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| 19:18.46 | PyroPhelia | ok now a different problem. I updated my dns in ifconfig but I still can't resolve anything |
| 19:19.01 | valdyn | PyroPhelia: ifconfig has nothing to do with dns |
| 19:19.04 | PyroPhelia | oh nm |
| 19:19.09 | PyroPhelia | just answered my own question |
| 19:19.41 | Circuitsoft | I think it's ConsoleKit that's screwing with me. |
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| 19:20.57 | MrGeneral | Where do I get netinstall for debian lenny folks? |
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| 19:21.01 | MrGeneral | I've been looking for ages |
| 19:21.07 | MrGeneral | I only find it for squeeze |
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| 19:21.30 | homie | squeeze is the new stable! |
| 19:21.36 | MrGeneral | ?? lenny |
| 19:21.38 | homie | lenny is oldstable |
| 19:21.39 | PyroPhelia | hmmm |
| 19:21.39 | MrGeneral | homie, yes but.. |
| 19:21.40 | stew | MrGeneral: now that its no longer the current stable, it moves to the archive section of cdimage.debian.org |
| 19:21.52 | PyroPhelia | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA |
| 19:21.57 | MrGeneral | hm sure, but what about if I'm used to 5.0? |
| 19:22.08 | MrGeneral | oh, ill check that stew thanks |
| 19:22.16 | homie | well, you can live with it at least 1 year ... |
| 19:22.20 | thewanderer1 | MrGeneral: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.8/i386/iso-cd/ if you really want to |
| 19:22.24 | jham | MrGeneral: is there any difference? |
| 19:22.31 | homie | afterwards it does not get any security support anymore |
| 19:22.40 | jham | apt stayed the same, didn't it? :) |
| 19:22.41 | dluzion | fdisk / gparted shows me 2 seperate disk while i configured them to be raid 0 in the bios. any ideas? |
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| 19:22.55 | MrGeneral | awesome thanks thewanderer1 ! |
| 19:22.59 | MrGeneral | jhyes a little, no?:P |
| 19:23.09 | jham | MrGeneral: what has changed? |
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| 19:23.25 | thewanderer1 | dluzion: yes, your BIOS lies - it's not a real RAID controller, but a FakeRAID |
| 19:23.34 | MrGeneral | jham, I'll be using a tutorial |
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| 19:23.37 | MrGeneral | for the old lenny |
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| 19:23.44 | MrGeneral | and im afraid this wont be compatible with 6.0 |
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| 19:24.22 | MrGeneral | netinst is like 180 mb :o |
| 19:24.35 | MrGeneral | I thought that was another really small fine, and it would download the packages by http |
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| 19:25.15 | ouned | hi. what can i do if my network is completely unconfigured? |
| 19:25.20 | xyriphe | http://debian.org/releases/lenny/debian-installer/ |
| 19:25.23 | dluzion | thewanderer1: but it does offer me options in the bios of the chip like: jbos / stripe or mirror/ |
| 19:25.39 | xyriphe | You can download the businesscard installer if you want it even smaller. |
| 19:25.40 | dluzion | then what be the use of that to offer jbod |
| 19:25.43 | MrGeneral | thank you xyriphe :D |
| 19:25.48 | MrGeneral | oh really xyriphe ? |
| 19:25.51 | MrGeneral | is it the same? almost?:P |
| 19:26.29 | xyriphe | Almost the same as the netinstall? I think so, just stripped to the bones. |
| 19:26.47 | MrGeneral | oh I see..:P |
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| 19:26.53 | MrGeneral | thank you xyriphe and all the others :) |
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| 19:29.16 | stew | MrGeneral: the businesscard is just the installer. once you start the installer, it downloads everything that is on the netinst anyway, so its not like you'll download less |
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| 19:29.24 | stew | MrGeneral: in fact, you'll download more if you ever have to restart the isntaller |
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| 19:29.47 | MrGeneral | that will be fine stew, I'm in kvm |
| 19:29.48 | MrGeneral | :P |
| 19:30.16 | khem_ | Hello, I got my wlan0 card working through the restricted Realtek firmware diriver. However when I pick a essid for my card, it always chooses "No Association" even though I can find this through a iwscan. What may be wrong? |
| 19:30.22 | thewanderer1 | dluzion: yes, it's fake raid which uses a software driver to do its work |
| 19:30.31 | JordiGH | Restricted? |
| 19:30.35 | JordiGH | smells Ubuntu. |
| 19:30.46 | khem_ | rwhat is restricted? |
| 19:30.54 | khem_ | oh |
| 19:31.09 | khem_ | JordiGH: yes Debian sid, restricted repo |
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| 19:32.29 | thewanderer1 | dluzion: you should really just use Linux software raid rather than this crap |
| 19:32.33 | dluzion | thewanderer1: that sucks, should be illegal. errased my disks for nothing now then |
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| 19:33.54 | thewanderer1 | dluzion: it's for Windows which can't handle software raid on its own and needs help from OEM drivers... |
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| 19:34.20 | morsik | hello, i have debian squeeze x86_64 on server |
| 19:34.29 | Canar | gj :D |
| 19:34.30 | morsik | i want to install cs16 server, but it's x86 version |
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| 19:34.53 | morsik | how can i run x86 binary? well, i don't really like chroot option |
| 19:35.02 | Zao | morsik: Install sufficient lib32 libs, pray it's sufficient? |
| 19:35.27 | Zao | ia32-libs tends to be a good point to start at. |
| 19:35.42 | thewanderer1 | isn't that deprecated? |
| 19:35.45 | Zao | morsik: Try running it, or ldd'ing it, see what it needs? |
| 19:35.51 | morsik | now i got: No such file. when i trying to run it |
| 19:35.58 | morsik | (of course it exists and it have +x) |
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| 19:36.16 | morsik | hldsupdatetool.bin is not dynamic binary |
| 19:36.17 | morsik | [-; |
| 19:36.25 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
| 19:36.37 | ouned | guys why does the debian debian netinstall cd only support WEP keys for WLANs Oo |
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| 19:38.52 | km | is gzip and gunzip are separate install packages on redhat? |
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| 19:39.26 | robokop | km: #redhat? |
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| 19:40.25 | dalias | i'm having an issue after some recent upgrades |
| 19:40.27 | thewanderer1 | maybe we should put up a huge welcome message with the Debian whirl... say, 60 lines long upon entering the channel with DEBIAN repeated all over the picture |
| 19:40.39 | dalias | nm-applet no longerwork as a normal user, only as root |
| 19:40.47 | Flashtek | hey hey, I just purchased myself a touch screen TFT.. any pointers on getting it working in X on Squeeze ?? |
| 19:40.49 | kba | petemc: I wiped out my entire /var/log/ and waited for something to get in /var/mail/wanze. The only thing that's in my /var/log now is suphp.log which includes about 10 requests to index.php files on various sites running wordpress and joomla, I doubt that's where I'd find the problem |
| 19:40.54 | dalias | it just silently fails to accept any attempts to connect to a network |
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| 19:41.16 | dalias | i'm assuming it's a policykit problem, but where do i go about fixing it? |
| 19:41.20 | morsik | Zao: heh, thanks - ia32-libs works |
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| 19:44.16 | kenjy | can you help me? I have a server where my nginx logs are rotated at 12 o clock each day but my crontab shows that the daily cron scripts should run at 15 0 so I don't understand why my daily scripts are executed at 12 :S |
| 19:44.30 | dalias | anyone have any ideas for me? |
| 19:44.37 | dalias | this is very frustrating... |
| 19:44.42 | dalias | hates policykit |
| 19:44.49 | stew | kenjy: when you say 12 o clock, do you mean midnight or noon? |
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| 19:45.12 | kenjy | stew: noon |
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| 19:45.35 | thewanderer1 | dalias: err, did you add your user to netdev? |
| 19:45.37 | jY | i have an old etch box I need to install a package on.. everything is 404ing.. is there some archive repo I can hit? |
| 19:45.47 | kenjy | stew: my logs are rotated each day at 12:00 hours and my crontab says that they should be rotated at 00:15 |
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| 19:46.17 | dalias | yes i'm a member of netdev |
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| 19:46.26 | robokop | jY: etch isn't supported anh more? |
| 19:46.49 | dalias | this just suddenly stopped working after upgrading today (i hadn't done any upgrades in a few months) |
| 19:46.55 | jY | robokop, no |
| 19:47.02 | stew | robokop: not for a year or so |
| 19:47.06 | somiaj | jY: archive.debian.org will have sources for any obsolete debian releases -- though you should really upgrade if security means anything. |
| 19:47.15 | jY | somiaj, thanks |
| 19:47.16 | DotHack | im trying to find bugs in the linux-2.6 package but bugs.debian.org seems to hang when i try to search for them |
| 19:47.17 | robokop | jY: etch isn't supported any more i meant |
| 19:47.32 | karsten-nr | stew: I generally mean 10 am - 3pm, much more reasonable time of day. |
| 19:47.41 | dalias | thewanderer1, do i also need to be in the polkituser group? |
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| 19:48.02 | stew | karsten-nr: ECONTEXT |
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| 19:48.50 | stew | kenjy: and the cronjob you are looking at is the cron.daily job in /etc/crontab? |
| 19:49.11 | _0x47 | Hi, is there a way to apt-get source a package, add a binary in a subfolder (to make use of it at build-time) and do the usuale dpkg-buildpackage [...] without getting "unrepresentable changes to source" from dpkg-source? |
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| 19:49.33 | kenjy | stew: yes |
| 19:50.04 | _0x47 | This is not an image though, it's libtool (the build environment makes use of an outdated version, hence I need to ship my own) |
| 19:50.05 | PyroPhelia | how do I use mget to transfer everything in a directory without having to create the local directory every time? |
| 19:50.15 | kenjy | stew: http://nopaste.info/7d3b597a64.html |
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| 19:51.46 | Netlynx | hi, anyone that can tell me what the best location is to place svn repositories? I want them accessible through apache. But where do i put them? /home/svnuser, /var, /opt. ? |
| 19:52.05 | somiaj | _0x47: would creating a chroot to build in be an option? |
| 19:52.21 | dalias | thewanderer1, any ideas? |
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| 19:52.58 | _0x47 | somiaj: hehe, i'm not sure, but I guess no (I don't know if it's of any value, but I'm talking about the Autobuilder from Maemo (maemo.org). |
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| 19:53.24 | somiaj | Netlynx: 'best' could depend on your system and what filesystems drives you have mounted where (for space reasons). Either option you listed is resonable. |
| 19:53.30 | stew | _0x47: you can convert to a v3 source package so you don't have to diff. you can add a base64 encoded file that you decode during install |
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| 19:53.59 | stew | kenjy: i dont suppose it is possible that you ahve 12 hours of stuff in cron.daily |
| 19:54.04 | somiaj | _0x47: well a chroot just allows you to set up a build enviorment that has the 'outdated' version you need to finish the build. Though there may be better ways, that is just my suggestion. |
| 19:54.19 | stew | somiaj: that doesn't help him with his problem at all, though |
| 19:54.43 | Netlynx | somiaj, I' about to install a new home server that will store those repositories. I have all options open. |
| 19:54.53 | somiaj | stew: ahh, well then I'll be quiet.. (: |
| 19:55.18 | kenjy | stew: sorry but what do you mean? |
| 19:55.30 | _0x47 | stew: ok, so is it hard to convert to v3? I mean, a given debian package (maemo2), has tons and tons of scripts and patches, so I don't want to fix them all manually |
| 19:55.58 | somiaj | Netlynx: yea depends on how you want to orginize things. There is no reason not to use any of those over another until you get to the actual system design your on. |
| 19:56.41 | somiaj | Netlynx: never set up svn, but you could just go with the default place. |
| 19:57.05 | stew | _0x47: http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0#Howtoconvertasourcepackage.3F |
| 19:57.19 | _0x47 | stew: thanks |
| 19:57.21 | Netlynx | somiaj, ok. thx. i will work out the rest of the server functionalities first then. |
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| 19:58.16 | stew | kenjy: 15 0 is when cron.daily starts executing jobs one by one. not the time which logrotate starts, right? |
| 19:59.19 | kenjy | stew: yes, thats true but I also have this file in cron.daily: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate |
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| 19:59.43 | kenjy | stew: and in /etc/logrotate.d/nginx I have "daily" |
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| 20:00.32 | stew | kenjy: is /etc/cron.daily/logrotate the FIRST file in /etc/cron.daily (when sorted alphabetically)? |
| 20:00.57 | stew | kenjy: if not then how long do all the jobs that come before it take? is it possible it takes 11:45 ? |
| 20:02.04 | dalias | thewanderer1, it seems to be this problem, but i don't know a solution: |
| 20:02.30 | dalias | thewanderer1, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2010-December/msg00084.html |
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| 20:04.11 | kenjy | stew: logrotate is not the first file in cron.daily when sorted alphabetically, sorted I have: "apache2 apt aptitude bsdmainutils exim4-base logrotate man-db mlocate standard" and I ran all of them but logrotate in order and it took less than 2 seconds ... |
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| 20:06.28 | khem_ | I just install the GNOME packages, what do I need to put in my .xinitrc to have that run? |
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| 20:08.09 | robokop | khem: exec gnome-session |
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| 20:15.58 | viezerd | want to store backups on that disk |
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| 20:29.15 | thewanderer1 | sure viezerd |
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| 20:32.37 | dolphin_noel_ | Hello :) |
| 20:33.18 | MrGeneral | Is there any option to remove useless programs |
| 20:33.21 | MrGeneral | to reduce the ram usage? |
| 20:33.26 | MrGeneral | its using 400 mb, its a new install |
| 20:33.38 | MrGeneral | not sure if its standard, but has exim4, so.. |
| 20:33.59 | D-HUND | no, because the system does not know what is 'useless' to you. |
| 20:34.06 | dalias | thewanderer1, downgrading consolekit to 4.1 fixed the problem |
| 20:34.39 | stew | MrGeneral: what does "free -m | sed -n 2p" return? |
| 20:34.43 | stew | or 3p for that matter |
| 20:34.47 | thewanderer1 | dalias: huh, are you messing with testing or sid? |
| 20:34.48 | dolphin_noel_ | MrGeneral maby try to go to "startup aplications" it helps a litle |
| 20:34.56 | MrGeneral | dolphin_noel_, not desktop |
| 20:35.02 | MrGeneral | stew one second |
| 20:35.09 | simonrvn | MrGeneral: /msg dpkg free ram |
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| 20:35.50 | MrGeneral | stew: Mem: 504 42 461 0 4 21 |
| 20:35.58 | MrGeneral | simonrvn, will do thanks |
| 20:36.20 | MrGeneral | I know simonrvn but thats not it |
| 20:36.23 | MrGeneral | this is a low end box |
| 20:36.25 | viezerd | thewanderer1: thanx :) |
| 20:36.31 | MrGeneral | and I need to get nginx using as much as possible |
| 20:36.36 | stew | MrGeneral: so you only have 17 mb actually used |
| 20:36.42 | MrGeneral | oh |
| 20:36.51 | MrGeneral | hm. |
| 20:37.08 | stew | MrGeneral: that show's 42 used, 4 in bufffers and 21 in cache, the cache can be reclaimed as soon as it is needed |
| 20:37.16 | MrGeneral | I see |
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| 20:37.29 | dalias | thewanderer1, sid |
| 20:37.34 | MrGeneral | thanks folks |
| 20:37.52 | stew | MrGeneral: expect the cache number to keep increasing until free memory is near zero, but that's good and expected, see http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 20:38.01 | MrGeneral | alright will read |
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| 20:38.13 | dolphin_noel_ | I'm sorry for the question but, i'm having some troubles in browser i think it is because of the flash player because some aplications and games from flash they are not working... i can check youtube and everything but not everything... and i got sound to i install the flash to .mozilla/plugins allready try the nofree and nathing remove the gnash to |
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| 20:38.44 | dolphin_noel_ | Any idea...? :\ |
| 20:38.52 | MrGeneral | indeed stew |
| 20:38.57 | MrGeneral | thank you for explaining |
| 20:39.48 | jhutchins_lt | dolphin_noel_: Some flash sites are just badly built and don't work. |
| 20:40.10 | jhutchins_lt | dolphin_noel_: The nonfree plugin from Adobe will work with the widest range, but some just won't work. |
| 20:40.15 | MrGeneral | stew dropped cache to test, and shows only 24 mb now:D |
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| 20:40.17 | MrGeneral | thank you |
| 20:40.18 | dolphin_noel_ | jhutchins_It i'm talking about farmville... and a few litles... basic |
| 20:40.21 | MrGeneral | I learn everyday |
| 20:40.22 | MrGeneral | hah |
| 20:40.42 | jhutchins_lt | dolphin_noel_: Which release and what architecture? |
| 20:40.57 | MrGeneral | WeJustLive:~# cat /proc/version |
| 20:40.57 | MrGeneral | Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 (Debian 2.6.26-26lenny2) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Thu Jan 27 00:28:05 UTC 2011 |
| 20:41.05 | MrGeneral | should be able to apt-get dist-upgrade, no? |
| 20:41.06 | dolphin_noel_ | jhutchins_It just one fresh install from debian squeeze |
| 20:41.54 | jhutchins_lt | dolphin_noel_: By arch I mean 32 or 64? |
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| 20:42.34 | dolphin_noel_ | jhutchins_It 32 bits and i allready check the flash player 10 dependences http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/153/tn_15380.html install the curl |
| 20:43.25 | jhutchins_lt | dolphin_noel_: That's about as good as you're going to get then. You might want to check your video driver. |
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| 20:43.46 | JordiGH | khem_: Debian doesn't have a restricted repo. |
| 20:44.06 | MrGeneral | in terms of ram, will debian squeeze eat me more ram stew? |
| 20:44.13 | MrGeneral | or should I dist upgrade? |
| 20:44.38 | jhutchins_lt | MrGeneral: Always nice to have more, but you should be able to run in about the same room. |
| 20:44.49 | MrGeneral | hmm I see |
| 20:44.50 | MrGeneral | :) |
| 20:44.54 | jhutchins_lt | MrGeneral: They're always adding features to things like gnome and kde that eat ram. |
| 20:44.59 | stew | MrGeneral: it shouldn't be significantly different. yes, you should upgrade, but you shouldn't just dist-upgrade, you should follow the procedure in chapter 4 of the squeeze release notes |
| 20:45.19 | dolphin_noel_ | jhutchins_It maby it is one good ideia, i check some problem in the webcam to sometimes try to acess the gets block think maby something about the "Flash Player 10 Dependencies" in the website from adobe. Thank you very much i will try this |
| 20:45.22 | MrGeneral | jhujhiti, this wouldnt have gnome tho |
| 20:45.25 | MrGeneral | stew, oh, didnt know that |
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| 20:49.38 | Flashtek | ok, which package do i need to 'dpkg-reconfigure' to get X to see my touch screen ?? |
| 20:51.44 | mns | Flashtek: I believe its xserver-xorg or xserver-xorg-core |
| 20:52.02 | Flashtek | thanks, i'll try that.. |
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| 20:52.54 | StuckMojo | about how many packages in debian in total these days? |
| 20:52.58 | stew | it would be xserver-xorg, but these days it basically gets you an empty config, you can acheive the same by just getting rid of your current xorg.conf (or moving it out of the way) |
| 20:53.01 | StuckMojo | round number |
| 20:53.04 | stew | StuckMojo: what do you mean? |
| 20:53.10 | StuckMojo | last i knew it was about 23,000 |
| 20:53.20 | stew | StuckMojo: source packages? binary packages? in all releases? just one? |
| 20:53.36 | StuckMojo | lets say the current stable, binary packages |
| 20:53.45 | stew | StuckMojo: in which arch? |
| 20:53.49 | StuckMojo | i.e. how many different things you could choose to install. |
| 20:53.50 | Flashtek | which arch ? |
| 20:53.59 | simonrvn | architecture |
| 20:53.59 | StuckMojo | stew: lol, not looking for exact, but lets say x86 |
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| 20:54.33 | simonrvn | Flashtek: debian supports something 11 or 13 arches |
| 20:54.41 | Flashtek | simonrvn: aye |
| 20:54.47 | Flashtek | simonrvn: I use at least 3 of 'em |
| 20:54.52 | StuckMojo | yeah but the same source package is built for all those archs |
| 20:54.54 | simonrvn | ok :) |
| 20:55.04 | StuckMojo | i guess i shoudl say, number of source packages then |
| 20:55.14 | simonrvn | !debstats |
| 20:55.14 | dpkg | debstats is managed by sussudio: http://debstats.dontexist.org/ (#debian freenode) and http://members.ziggo.nl/sussudio/debian-oftc.html (#debian OFTC) |
| 20:55.21 | simonrvn | !dstats |
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| 20:55.31 | abrotman | close |
| 20:55.39 | StuckMojo | hehehe |
| 20:55.50 | StuckMojo | i just seemed to remember it being over 20K |
| 20:55.52 | simonrvn | "updating..." |
| 20:55.53 | abrotman | dpkg: dstats sid |
| 20:56.02 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sid... 30960 packages, 2179 maintainers, 100512 MB installed size, 37381 MB compressed size. |
| 20:56.03 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sid... 30960 packages, 2179 maintainers, 100512 MB installed size, 37381 MB compressed size. |
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| 20:56.08 | abrotman | bleh |
| 20:56.11 | StuckMojo | but that was a while ago, and i'm about to mention it to someone else, so i thought i'd get a fresh bragging number |
| 20:56.29 | Flashtek | StuckMojo: nearly 31,000 |
| 20:56.30 | StuckMojo | holy shnikies! |
| 20:56.31 | simonrvn | holy crap |
| 20:56.42 | stew | why am I only getting 17189? |
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| 20:57.11 | StuckMojo | stew: LOL |
| 20:57.19 | stew | oh |
| 20:57.19 | functor | I seem to have a problem with my wlan |
| 20:57.21 | stew | its 29222 |
| 20:57.22 | functor | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.29 | functor | Anyone know wtf is that? |
| 20:57.31 | simonrvn | Installed Packages (4660) Not Installed Packages (27193) |
| 20:57.47 | StuckMojo | thanks guys |
| 20:57.58 | StuckMojo | god damn, no wonder it's so long between releases ;) |
| 20:58.01 | simonrvn | looks like hex to me |
| 20:58.16 | functor | why is it in my essid? |
| 20:58.50 | dondelelcaro | stew: grep Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org*unstable*Packages|wc -l; returns 30855 here, which is pretty close. |
| 20:59.04 | stew | dondelelcaro: select count(*) from bin_associations ba join binaries b on ba.bin=b.id where b.architecture in (2,7) and ba.suite=2; => 29222 :) |
| 20:59.15 | simonrvn | p>Ag>~k8*;2<T |
| 20:59.37 | dondelelcaro | stew: ah, could be different architectures |
| 20:59.51 | StuckMojo | amazing. well thanks again folks |
| 20:59.55 | StuckMojo | wanders off |
| 20:59.57 | stew | dondelelcaro: 2,7 is all, i386, i get 31785 |
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| 21:00.00 | dondelelcaro | also should have done grep '^Package:', but whatever |
| 21:00.03 | stew | 31785 for unstable |
| 21:00.07 | stew | :) |
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| 21:03.15 | anoob | Hi, I've a pidgin sound issue: "gstreamer: Could not open resource for writing." Any idea? Thank you. |
| 21:04.10 | titoy | anoob: is it only in pidgin? |
| 21:04.22 | anoob | yes titoy, it is |
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| 21:06.17 | titoy | anoob: can you open pidgin in a terminal and see if it says anything else? |
| 21:06.42 | anoob | i saw it in terminal... that's the only thing about sound the issue titoy |
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| 21:07.21 | kenjy | stew: I removed all my cron.daily scripts and added a new script that just do a touch /tmp/test also I changed the time in /etc/crontab for the cron.daily entry adjusting it 4 minutes after the current time and when the time arrived the /tmp/file wasn't created, however if I run the script by hand it executes correctly |
| 21:07.32 | kenjy | stew: does that means that my cron is not working? |
| 21:08.32 | latsni | anoob: do you use any other gstream applications? |
| 21:09.29 | anoob | latsni, i guess no... now i'm running vlc, wine (half-life), iceweasel... |
| 21:09.29 | titoy | anoob: are you sure the other apps that use gstreamer work? |
| 21:09.45 | titoy | oops a bit late |
| 21:09.52 | anoob | titoy, no... which application should i use to test? |
| 21:09.59 | titoy | totem? |
| 21:10.13 | titoy | rythmbox maybe? |
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| 21:10.33 | JordiGH | "Gives no safe way of cleaning up" or "gives no safe way to clean up"? |
| 21:10.37 | anoob | i don't have any... i'm going to install it |
| 21:10.44 | JordiGH | Oops, wrong channel. |
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| 21:12.08 | latsni | anoob: could you setup gstream audio with gstreamer-properties? |
| 21:12.23 | anoob | i'm running fluxbox latsni |
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| 21:16.14 | anoob | latsni, titoy, exaile works |
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| 21:18.49 | ElDiabolo | Hi. Where do I find documentation for update-grub ? |
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| 21:20.26 | jhutchins_lt | ElDiabolo: grub2? |
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| 21:21.00 | mr_chris | Are there any tftp servers in the Debian repos that don't have a file size limit of 32 MB? |
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| 21:21.22 | ElDiabolo | jhutchins_lt, yes. man update-grub is not really telling much |
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| 21:22.04 | anoob | latsni, titoy, i didn't have gstreamer-alsa package |
| 21:22.09 | anoob | latsni, titoy, thank you |
| 21:22.10 | jhutchins_lt | ElDiabolo: Yeah, it's pretty sparse so far. There's info in the various grub.d files. |
| 21:22.34 | anao | hello@all can anyone tell me the file of cryptsetup which echo "enter passphrase to unlock disk" at boot? |
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| 21:25.39 | pinkisntwell | hello |
| 21:25.43 | ElDiabolo | Just copied the root partition to another disk. Thought I would just need to call update-grub to get the new disk as a selection in the boot menu. Wrong :( |
| 21:26.07 | mns | where should dynamic (.so) modules go for Python ? (I'm a total newbie to python) |
| 21:26.48 | pinkisntwell | I just tried running upgrade-from-grub-legacy on my newly-upgraded squeeze system and now I'm left with an unbootable system: i get "grub stage 1.5: error 15". is there some standard way to fix this error? |
| 21:28.33 | kenjy | can some one help me? why cron.daily don't works? |
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| 21:29.14 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: doesn't work in what way? |
| 21:30.29 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: I created a script in /etc/cron.daily that just do a touch /tmp/test also I changed the time to the crontab entry for cron.daily setting it 2 minutes later than the time by that moument but the the script is never executed |
| 21:30.49 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: what is the name of the script? |
| 21:31.17 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: /etc/wawa it also has +x |
| 21:31.32 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: if I run it by hand it works but in the cron.daily is not working |
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| 21:31.36 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: what is the name of the file in /etc/cron.daily? |
| 21:32.07 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: its wawa # ls /etc/cron.daily/ |
| 21:32.07 | kenjy | wawa |
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| 21:32.28 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: and what does ls -l /usr/sbin/anacron; return? |
| 21:33.01 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26272 2010-03-04 20:29 /usr/sbin/anacron |
| 21:33.20 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: if you have anacron installed, cron.daily doesn't run. It's run by anacron instead. |
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| 21:34.25 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: then how am I supouse to set the time for a script with cron? |
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| 21:34.53 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: is this a machine that is on all (or most) of the time? |
| 21:35.01 | kenjy | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 21:35.13 | gratnam1__ | hey guys i am trying to fallow this guide here http://qmailrocks.thibs.com/greylisting.php |
| 21:35.19 | dondelelcaro | kenjy: then remove anacron |
| 21:35.34 | gratnam1__ | i don't have the /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run |
| 21:35.37 | gratnam1__ | file |
| 21:36.13 | gratnam1__ | do i create it |
| 21:36.13 | gratnam1__ | and if i do would it work |
| 21:36.17 | gratnam1__ | i have /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd |
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| 21:36.34 | gratnam1__ | please help |
| 21:37.17 | dondelelcaro | gratnam1__: you'll probably have better luck asking in #qmail, as Debian doesn't really distribute it |
| 21:37.33 | gratnam1__ | okay thanks |
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| 21:37.55 | gratnam1__ | i thoiught maybe some one went through this already |
| 21:38.34 | StuckMojo | hola. does dpkg have info on the whole sh/dash vs bash thing in squeeze? fresh install is making new users' shell /bin/sh, which is dash. I would prefer bash |
| 21:38.58 | dondelelcaro | StuckMojo: a fresh install should be making new users shell /bin/bash, not /bin/sh |
| 21:39.04 | dondelelcaro | StuckMojo: the only exception are system users |
| 21:39.05 | StuckMojo | odd |
| 21:39.24 | dondelelcaro | StuckMojo: perhaps you've changed /etc/adduser.conf and set DSHELL to something besides /bin/bash |
| 21:39.30 | StuckMojo | jerdman:x:1001:1001::/home/jerdman:/bin/sh |
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| 21:39.35 | StuckMojo | ah, ok i'll look there |
| 21:39.39 | dondelelcaro | (or you're not using adduser to add new users) |
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| 21:39.50 | StuckMojo | someone else did the install, and i see other normal users have bash |
| 21:40.06 | StuckMojo | hmmmm....DSHELL=/bin/bash |
| 21:40.14 | StuckMojo | i'll have to ask how he created my user |
| 21:40.17 | StuckMojo | ok thanks much |
| 21:40.21 | dondelelcaro | StuckMojo: well, just use chsh to change it |
| 21:40.28 | StuckMojo | yeah i did, i have sudo |
| 21:40.37 | dondelelcaro | oh, you don't even need sudo to do that |
| 21:40.38 | amphi | StuckMojo: you should be able to chsh for your user |
| 21:40.55 | StuckMojo | i just ass-u-me-ed that other new users would end up with /bin/sh = dash, which is kinda lame for interactive use ;) |
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| 21:41.08 | StuckMojo | false alarm, thanks gents |
| 21:41.35 | JordiGH | What if we're not gents? |
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| 21:42.21 | amphi | caballeros? :) |
| 21:42.23 | StuckMojo | JordiGH: then i will apologize to the one girl on the internet :P |
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| 21:42.30 | StuckMojo | j/k |
| 21:43.36 | Circuitsoft | Anyone know their way around consolekit? |
| 21:43.40 | Circuitsoft | http://paste.debian.net/109288/ |
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| 21:46.55 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps i need to setup a relay email server for my nagios and send it to my gmail accounts |
| 21:47.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dont need a full blown email server.. |
| 21:47.03 | pinkisntwell | debian duped me into running upgrade-from-grub-legacy and now it won't boot. is there an easy way to fix grub? |
| 21:47.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | is there a good how-to out that |
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| 21:47.22 | Circuitsoft | Eryn_1983_FL I think ssmtp will do that very painlessly. |
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| 21:48.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 21:50.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got it install configuring now ty |
| 21:51.18 | MrGeneral | How do you add an user to the su list? |
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| 21:51.25 | MrGeneral | nano /etc/group and wheel::username |
| 21:51.28 | MrGeneral | or something like that |
| 21:51.33 | bolt | pinkisntwell: the first install of that should make grub chainload grub2 |
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| 21:51.41 | bolt | pinkisntwell: just have it boot normally instead |
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| 21:52.12 | bolt | MrGeneral: su list? sudo? |
| 21:54.13 | jhutchins_lt | MrGeneral: Anybody who knows root's password should be able to use su - by default. |
| 21:54.18 | icebrain | MrGeneral: the wheel group isn't used in Debian |
| 21:54.19 | jhutchins_lt | MrGeneral: Unless you messed with it. |
| 21:54.31 | MrGeneral | ah really |
| 21:54.32 | MrGeneral | ahh |
| 21:54.36 | MrGeneral | alright, thank you folks |
| 21:54.36 | MrGeneral | :D |
| 21:54.41 | bolt | wheel? |
| 21:54.43 | MrGeneral | then I can disable root login by ssh. |
| 21:54.54 | bolt | MrGeneral: yep. and you should :) |
| 21:55.12 | icebrain | bolt: tradicionally in UNIX (or just BSD?) you'd have to be in the "wheel" group to su to root |
| 21:55.18 | stew | !wheel |
| 21:55.18 | dpkg | wheel is, like, n. [from slang `big wheel' for a powerful person] The traditional name of security group zero in BSD. Irrelevant in Debian default configs. You can use a PAM module to allow only group wheel to su to root (as is the default in some Unices), or to allow group wheel to su to root without a password. See man pam_wheel for details. |
| 21:55.20 | jhutchins_lt | MrGeneral: Yes. You can also require a key to log in as root, and only issue the key to authorized users. |
| 21:55.26 | _0x47 | stew: sorry to bother you again, but was the change to quilt 3 XOR the base64 thing or do I have to do both? |
| 21:55.56 | MrGeneral | bolt, thanks :D |
| 21:56.06 | MrGeneral | and you too stew, and jhutchins_lt |
| 21:56.11 | MrGeneral | will follow your advices. |
| 21:56.11 | stew | _0x47: v3 doesn't use diffs, it creates a .debian.tar.gz instead of a diff, so you don't have the same problem |
| 21:56.55 | stew | _0x47: though its good practice to contain the changes you make to the debian directory and not drop it somewhere in the upstream tree |
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| 21:57.15 | _0x47 | stew: ok, I did as suggested on the howto page (debian/source/format) and it tells me it uses it, but after all the error remains the same |
| 21:57.53 | _0x47 | stew: do i have to package the binaries in the original .tar.gz myself? |
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| 21:59.02 | _0x47 | stew: it says |
| 21:59.03 | _0x47 | dpkg-source: info: using source format `3.0 (quilt)' |
| 21:59.03 | _0x47 | dpkg-source: info: building mono using existing ./mono_2.6.7.orig.tar.gz |
| 21:59.30 | _0x47 | the binaries are not in the orig.tar.gz, since I added them to the extracted dir from dpkg |
| 21:59.59 | _0x47 | as well as dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of 'tools/libtool_2.4/bin/libtoolize' will not be represented in diff |
| 22:00.15 | _0x47 | which should not happen if v3 is used? |
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| 22:04.31 | Flashtek | well, I still have no touch screen.. |
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| 22:10.12 | jhutchins_lt | Flashtek: They can be a pain. What hardware? |
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| 22:11.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok... |
| 22:11.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | um my crontab and the default emails for my server are going to the wrong places.. |
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| 22:11.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | they are being sent but not the right email destination. |
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| 22:13.10 | Flashtek | jhutchins_lt: it's built in to my TFT |
| 22:13.35 | Flashtek | Acer screen.. |
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| 22:14.36 | jhutchins_lt | Flashtek: You need to use tools like lspci and lsusb to discover the actual chipset, then start looking for linux support for that chipset. I don't think Acer builds it's own touchscreens. |
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| 22:14.55 | jhutchins_lt | Flashtek: They would be one place to start looking though. |
| 22:15.05 | nsadmin | Eryn_1983_FL: log show anything interesting? |
| 22:15.11 | Flashtek | jhutchins_lt: Quanta mean anything ? |
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| 22:16.08 | jhutchins_lt | Flashtek: Um, a kde3 web developer? |
| 22:16.39 | jhutchins_lt | Most of the ones I worked with are fairly old. |
| 22:16.42 | Flashtek | lol.. lsusb shows Quanta :) |
| 22:17.10 | jhutchins_lt | Flashtek: Go ye forth and google quanta touchscreen linux. |
| 22:17.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | i figured it out for cront the mailto= option |
| 22:19.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got the cron stuff |
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| 22:22.17 | npoektop | hi! how to route all traffic through ppp0 created for pptp? |
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| 22:25.16 | Flashtek | npoektop: use the 'route' command |
| 22:25.40 | Flashtek | jhutchins_lt: i found this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1375047 |
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| 22:28.26 | arturo393 | hi, i have a w300 phone and when i connect it to through the usb port the memory of the phone is detected. how can i mount automatically the memory ? |
| 22:29.25 | arturo393 | i'v tried to install usbmount and works partially good . the memory has mounted but with no write permissions |
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| 22:29.43 | nsadmin | arturo393 just say yes when the dialog shows up |
| 22:30.01 | arturo393 | nsadmin: there is no dialog |
| 22:30.18 | nsadmin | so when you connect it, no dialog pops up? |
| 22:30.25 | arturo393 | no |
| 22:30.34 | nsadmin | and this has never happened? |
| 22:30.42 | arturo393 | never |
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| 22:30.53 | nsadmin | interesting... |
| 22:31.15 | arturo393 | are you saying that debian automatically mount the device / |
| 22:31.39 | nsadmin | when I connect my phone, the phone gives me a choice as to whether to expose the simcard over the usb |
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| 22:32.00 | arturo393 | did you install something ? |
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| 22:32.03 | nsadmin | if I say yes, I get a dialog box on the debian screen |
| 22:32.17 | spreadsheet | Does Debian have upstart or regular init by default? |
| 22:32.25 | nsadmin | I'm running kde if that's what yhou mean |
| 22:32.32 | nsadmin | probaby sysvinit |
| 22:32.41 | nsadmin | but upstart and something else are available |
| 22:32.45 | spreadsheet | Ok |
| 22:32.47 | spreadsheet | Thanks |
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| 22:34.31 | moritz__ | Hey there :) Is there any way to turn of automatic adding of daemons to runlevels whenever I install one or update to a newer version? Googeling didn't help :-( |
| 22:35.11 | nsadmin | man update-rc.d |
| 22:35.31 | nsadmin | but that's what packaging does |
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| 22:35.59 | nsadmin | by default, it: (1) starts the daemon and (2) arranges to start it on boot |
| 22:36.00 | jhutchins_lt | moritz__: It's assumed that if you're installing it, you want it to run. |
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| 22:36.38 | nsadmin | what are you trying to accomplish? |
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| 22:37.37 | petemc | MessedUpHare: /msg dpkg policy-rc.d |
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| 22:37.46 | petemc | moritz__: ^^^^ |
| 22:37.53 | petemc | MessedUpHare: sorry wrong nick |
| 22:38.12 | moritz__ | well... if I say install nbd-server because now and then I need it, but not every day and clearly not at boot time, it just doesn't make a lot of sense to run it at boot time, IMHO. So when I install nbd-server package it will be added to the runlevels and I have to remove it manually afterwards. |
| 22:38.49 | moritz__ | Same thing just happens whenever there's a new version I install during aptitude safe-upgrade |
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| 22:39.32 | queso | If I'm going to modify a script in /etc/cron.daily/ is it save to remove the executable flag and rename it to scriptname.backup ? Or should I move it out of the cron directory? |
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| 22:41.18 | Arrowmaster | moritz__: there might be a file in /etc/default/ that controls if the init script starts it or not |
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| 22:44.22 | queso | s/save/safe/ |
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| 22:47.54 | moritz__ | oh, well... So I was using update-rc.d all wrong. Thanks guys! Have a nice evening :) |
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| 22:49.15 | wobblyonions | anyone here using Freeradius |
| 22:50.07 | petemc | yes |
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| 22:55.33 | aazert | hello |
| 22:56.06 | gratnam1__ | hello there |
| 22:56.07 | aazert | on a real machine is it possible to boot via live cd ? |
| 22:56.14 | gratnam1__ | i am trying to ssh into a box and this is what i get |
| 22:56.15 | gratnam1__ | RSA host key for shampoo.baldhead.com has changed and you have requested strict checking. |
| 22:56.27 | gratnam1__ | what do i need to do |
| 22:57.05 | robokop | gratnam1__: do you know of reasons why the host key might be changed? |
| 22:57.22 | gratnam1__ | no clue |
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| 22:57.31 | gratnam1__ | but i have access to the remote host though |
| 22:58.07 | gratnam1__ | how do i get arround this |
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| 22:58.36 | robokop | it will say wich line will conflict |
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| 22:59.04 | gratnam1__ | where |
| 22:59.13 | robokop | when you ssh to it |
| 22:59.31 | wobblyonions | petemc can you give me a hand with some issues IM having please |
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| 22:59.55 | gratnam1__ | Offending key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts:3 |
| 23:00.01 | kba | I deleted all my logs in /var/log/ and now my postfix isn't logging, how can I make it log again? I created maillog, mail.log, mail.err, mail.warn and mail.info and restarted the postfix, but still no logs |
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| 23:00.11 | gratnam1__ | what do i need to do |
| 23:00.14 | kba | the logs are owned my root and chmod'd 755 |
| 23:00.44 | robokop | ed /root/.ssh/known_hosts |
| 23:00.57 | gratnam1__ | huh? |
| 23:01.04 | plainas | so i wan to pack my python app into a .deb, the main executable script shoulg go on /usr/bin, where should i place all other python modules? |
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| 23:01.20 | gratnam1__ | please gimme more details |
| 23:01.22 | robokop | gratnam1__: 3dwq |
| 23:01.28 | gratnam1__ | 3dwq |
| 23:01.30 | gratnam1__ | ???? |
| 23:01.49 | gratnam1__ | i don't get it |
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| 23:02.01 | robokop | gratnam1__: remove line 3 of that file |
| 23:02.13 | robokop | gratnam1__: in the editor of your choice |
| 23:02.19 | gratnam1__ | oh okay |
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| 23:05.54 | icebrain | plainas: try asking in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
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| 23:08.58 | Hiryu | can I get help for debian/kfreebsd in here too? |
| 23:09.08 | Hiryu | or is there a separate channel for that? |
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| 23:10.06 | Hiryu | debian/freebsd can't mount any of the filesystems in /etc/fstab except for /. Mounting the rest manually works, however (this is a fresh install) |
| 23:10.47 | daemonkeeper | Hiryu: You can ask here as well, however you could have more luck on #debian-kbsd on OFTC. |
| 23:10.59 | Hiryu | daemonkeeper: thanks! |
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| 23:11.12 | Hiryu | daemonkeeper: channel's dead :) |
| 23:11.32 | daemonkeeper | It's not, just a bit idle. |
| 23:11.56 | Hiryu | daemonkeeper: the only users in that channel are myself and ChanServ |
| 23:12.07 | daemonkeeper | Ehm, you noticed I said "OFTC"? |
| 23:12.18 | Hiryu | er |
| 23:12.21 | Hiryu | no lol |
| 23:12.35 | Hiryu | what is OFTC? |
| 23:12.38 | Hiryu | another IRC network? |
| 23:12.49 | daemonkeeper | Another IRC network, actually where "official" Debian channels live. |
| 23:12.58 | wobblyonions | can anyone help me with a FreeRadius + Mysql Issue |
| 23:13.00 | Hiryu | oh they've moved? |
| 23:13.07 | daemonkeeper | Some years ago, yes. |
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| 23:13.10 | Hiryu | daemonkeeper: why not freenode anymore? |
| 23:13.19 | Hiryu | daemonkeeper: tells you how long ago it's been since I've come here.. |
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| 23:13.29 | Hiryu | dpkg, hiryu |
| 23:13.29 | dpkg | Hiryu: are you using Windows? |
| 23:13.33 | wobblyonions | can anyone help me with a freeradius + mysql issue |
| 23:13.37 | Hiryu | boo, bot doesn't know me anymore |
| 23:13.46 | wobblyonions | keep getting a WARNING! No "known good" password found for the user. Authentication may fail because of this. |
| 23:13.53 | wobblyonions | works fine with a flat users file though |
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| 23:14.15 | daemonkeeper | Hiryu: http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604 |
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| 23:14.57 | Hiryu | daemonkeeper: there's no political reasons for people switching over? |
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| 23:15.30 | slie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:15.44 | zac314159 | clear |
| 23:16.29 | daemonkeeper | Nothing I would no about. People argued, OFTC would fit better to Debian, rather than Freenode. However, Freenode is still "good" and this channel here is actually bigger than #debian on OFTC (and has the same bots and a notable intersection of the same users) |
| 23:16.52 | Hiryu | ah |
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| 23:18.55 | daemonkeeper | Hiryu: If you do care, read http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html and the following 129381932813 posts in that thread |
| 23:19.10 | Hiryu | sure why not |
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| 23:32.11 | homie | wtf, why do i get a lockfile set to 127.0.1.1 with firefox ? |
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| 23:36.02 | homie | which is then also broken... |
| 23:36.21 | homie | broke symlink |
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| 23:38.45 | homie | i installed only mozplugger to get my .ps files open with anything i provide an argument fo in it, like gv, okular etc...but somehow firefox got wild together with acroread... |
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| 23:39.16 | homie | it even killed my kde/kdm |
| 23:39.32 | homie | had to restart, and even after that acroread was in rage... |
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| 23:39.54 | homie | opening my pdf files and asking everytime if i accept the license .... |
| 23:40.02 | homie | in every tab for every pdf file |
| 23:41.05 | homie | had to close all tabs, one by one, then quit firefox and copy the untouched mozpluggerrc file from /etc into .mozilla again and restarted firefox and now it's fine... |
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| 23:43.46 | ucajch | hello, anyone knows is there is an out of the box way of setting GDM3 to use multiple background images?? |
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| 23:44.26 | homie | like a slideshow ? |
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| 23:44.43 | ucajch | nono, a different image upon every login screen, homie |
| 23:44.49 | homie | ah |
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| 23:45.46 | homie | well, random would be the key then |
| 23:46.02 | homie | but don't know if gdm3 provides it |
| 23:46.04 | negge | I have a DGE-528T network card (R8169 chip) that suddenly stopped working today. I rebooted the computer and now I can't bring up the interface. I get a "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address" error when running "ifup eth1". The r8169 module is loaded and it is also used by another card so I know it works. I got some stack traces in the syslog when the initial error occured but now I get nothing in /var/log/messages when I run the ifup command. |
| 23:46.43 | ucajch | I was wondering about that, supose would have to make a script |
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| 23:48.20 | homie | random or photobook style ... |
| 23:49.00 | homie | one after the other, there's something like that for kde too, tried it once and it seems to be working just for the background or so, don't know if the login manager does that too... |
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