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| 00:00.47 | prince_jammys | ring0: yep, root's .bashrc is far less confy |
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| 00:01.38 | prince_jammys | at least over here |
| 00:02.51 | ring0 | prince_jammys, thanks for the .bashrc hint. indeed root's file contains 18 all commented out lines, while the user file has 100 |
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| 00:04.33 | prince_jammys | bash_completion does some hacky things and/or maybe the intention is not to help you feel to at home as root. |
| 00:04.42 | prince_jammys | *too |
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| 00:05.42 | ring0 | actually one should know as root how a package to install is called ;) |
| 00:06.11 | tgies | how do you get that cute little APT info dump that reportbug includes in the bug report |
| 00:06.31 | tgies | the one that reads "APT prefers testing" etc etc |
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| 00:07.04 | tgies | i feel like i knew a one-liner to get just those first three lines |
| 00:07.09 | jhutchins_lt | tgies: grep -i apt 'which reportbug' |
| 00:07.21 | prince_jammys | reportbug is a script. check it out. |
| 00:07.22 | dr_traktor | I get "No module named PyQt4.QtCore" errors. I have the latest python-qt4 installed. |
| 00:07.29 | dr_traktor | What can be the problem. |
| 00:07.48 | Super_Cat_Frog | by the way chaps - the ipv6 problem: I disabled it in java, which was enough for me until next reboot |
| 00:07.51 | ```y7 | when i run > cat /proc/ioports, it displays my raid card as 3ware 3w-xxxx. i'm trying to determine what the xxxx part of that is.... is there any way to determine this? (I also tried > cat /proc/interrupts and it gave me the same thing) |
| 00:07.55 | tgies | oh is it? i probably could have guessed that |
| 00:08.03 | themill | makes jhutchins_lt run that command |
| 00:08.13 | jhutchins_lt | tgies: Wrong quotes. |
| 00:08.20 | tgies | i knew what you meant |
| 00:08.23 | jhutchins_lt | ` |
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| 00:08.39 | y7 | jhutchins, sorry, nick change to make it easier to highlight me |
| 00:09.23 | jhutchins_lt | I know I was probably going to use the wrong ones because it failed the last time I tried it. I figured posting to #debian was a way to be certain which was the wrong quote. |
| 00:09.39 | jhutchins_lt | y7: Very courteous of you, thank you. |
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| 00:10.04 | tgies | grepping for apt doesn't turn up the relevant line but i'm sure i can find it |
| 00:10.10 | jhutchins_lt | y7: have you tried lspci and/or lshw? |
| 00:10.32 | jhutchins_lt | tgies: I got a "relevant" line, but it's pretty clear it requires context. |
| 00:10.40 | y7 | jhutchins, no i haven't. i'll give those a shot. thx |
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| 00:11.21 | tgies | the only line i see grepping for apt is the one that pulls the package via apt-cache pkgnames |
| 00:11.25 | tgies | which is kind of a surprise |
| 00:11.49 | prince_jammys | tgies: yeah, might be more involved since it appears to import stuff from a 'reportbug' module. |
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| 00:14.00 | tgies | grep -i apt /usr/share/pyshared/reportbug/*.py got me what i wanted |
| 00:14.59 | prince_jammys | was looking for that, dpkg -L reportbug wasn't showing it |
| 00:15.23 | prince_jammys | ah, python-reportbug |
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| 00:22.59 | y7 | jhutchins, lspci displays one: 3ware 7xxx/8xxx, which is closer.... lshw doesn't display much at all |
| 00:23.25 | y7 | displays one more usual digit*... i still need the xxx's though |
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| 00:25.29 | ring0 | is using su to change to root the correct way in terminal? |
| 00:25.53 | jelly-home | y7: you could run update-pciids and hope the card description's been updated in the meantime |
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| 00:27.05 | tonytraductor | hi |
| 00:27.06 | jelly-home | y7: also, lspci -v to see the subsystem description |
| 00:27.07 | nsadmin | is there a ttf font viewer that runs well under kde in squeeze? |
| 00:27.16 | y7 | jelly-home, i went all the way into -vvv |
| 00:27.19 | rnigam | People trying to install openmp. Can't remember the package name. Any suggestions? Already tried 'apt-get install libgomp' |
| 00:27.42 | Bop | what's de sources.list for experimental ? |
| 00:27.46 | tonytraductor | a friend has asked me to revive an old iMac G3, so I brought over a squeeze on ppc Cd, but, I can't get the darned machine to boot from the optical drive. |
| 00:28.06 | jelly-home | rnigam: apt-cache search openmp |
| 00:28.09 | y7 | jelly-home, i'll look into the update-pciids. thx for the suggestion |
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| 00:30.40 | rnigam | jelly-home: Thanks. Its libgomp1 now ! |
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| 00:31.46 | nsadmin | tried these: apt-cache search font | grep viewer, this gave me 4 dvi viewers and some other thing, and apt-cache search ttf | grep viewer, no result |
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| 00:33.07 | catsup | nsadmin: there's always xfontsel ? |
| 00:33.25 | nsadmin | I'll try it |
| 00:35.20 | nsadmin | font not present. oic, so xfontsel expects font to be installed... |
| 00:36.25 | Mad-Scientist | how can I set up a watch dog on my computer |
| 00:37.16 | Mad-Scientist | If guns are illegal, only criminals will have guns |
| 00:37.28 | Mad-Scientist | If root is not allowed to login ... only criminals will login as root |
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| 00:40.14 | tonytraductor | I got it |
| 00:40.40 | nsadmin | no, only not-alloweds :) |
| 00:41.09 | nsadmin | but if inlaws are outlawed... |
| 00:41.20 | karsten-nr | nsadmin: ... then only outlaws will be inlaws. |
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| 00:52.31 | Iridos | I think the police force is still supposed to have guns |
| 00:52.47 | Iridos | but you might count them as criminals following the above logic |
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| 00:56.16 | nsadmin | some cops are criminals regardless... |
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| 01:00.37 | fr33b1rd | if a country offers guns just to one side of democracy .. it calls for rebellion... in germany there is a monoply on guns by the police .. sounds ok .. as long as you know who is controlling the "inner force" or what means "police" |
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| 01:01.12 | nsadmin | there's actually a package called fontypython |
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| 01:08.09 | tonhe | I'm having an issue doing an upgrade... Keep getting ERROR: Module fcgid does not exist! |
| 01:08.52 | ZitZ | tonhe, are you running a webserver? |
| 01:10.40 | tonhe | ZitZ: Yeah, I'm not using apache2 though, but damn dependencies... |
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| 01:10.45 | tonhe | ZitZ: using NGINX |
| 01:11.12 | tonhe | i was just able to get past it by faking it out.. mkdir -p /etc/apache2/mods-avilable/fcgid.conf / load |
| 01:11.49 | nsadmin | what do I need to do if I have a truetype font file and I want to view it if it's not installed on the system? if install, how? |
| 01:12.29 | ZitZ | nsadmin: you copy it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ |
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| 01:12.59 | nsadmin | would I have to restart anything? |
| 01:13.02 | ZitZ | I may have the directory wrong, but it's definitely /usr/share/fonts/ , truetype may be capitalized or something |
| 01:13.21 | ZitZ | nsadmin: i don't think so, you might have to logout and log back in |
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| 01:14.00 | tgies | !tell flamingspinach about apt recommends |
| 01:14.03 | tgies | there |
| 01:14.04 | tgies | :p |
| 01:14.08 | MasterBlaster | Whats going on Debian peoples! I wish for you to step up and take control of the much appreciated gadmintools gui interfaces. |
| 01:14.15 | flamingspinach | thanks :p |
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| 01:14.56 | xrdodrx | can anyone upload the /usr/games/gnibbles binary somewhere for me? |
| 01:15.18 | MasterBlaster | Nope. |
| 01:15.25 | xrdodrx | :< |
| 01:15.32 | MasterBlaster | Install gnome-games |
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| 01:15.54 | tonhe | shit |
| 01:16.00 | MasterBlaster | Or would you rather like viruses or something ? |
| 01:16.00 | tonhe | apparently procmail broke during the upgrade |
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| 01:16.39 | MasterBlaster | Didnt think so. |
| 01:16.48 | xrdodrx | sorry for asking then |
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| 01:17.09 | MasterBlaster | You should be. |
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| 01:17.37 | joeb_ | ok im back |
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| 01:18.48 | joeb_ | i have a touchpad and im running debian squeeze .. when i hover over something or im about to click on somethin (menu) my mouse gets very jerky and it moves al the way to the right .. anyways to fix .. i tried system >prefs > mouse .. issue perist .. any ideas ? |
| 01:18.52 | nsadmin | * im :No such nick/channel |
| 01:19.18 | nsadmin | wrong mouse protocol, likely |
| 01:19.29 | joeb_ | how do if fix then ? |
| 01:19.44 | MasterBlaster | Judas_PhD: I can see your surname isnt Judas, why have you chosen this nick here ? |
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| 01:20.40 | nsadmin | fast! fast! blast, me avast... at last it's in the past... |
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| 01:21.02 | MasterBlaster | joeb_: I would suggest that you just turned on a pr0n movie... can this be a correct assumtion ? |
| 01:21.24 | joeb_ | nope |
| 01:21.41 | MasterBlaster | joeb_: I bet it was darn close though :) |
| 01:21.42 | ring0 | is it possible to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy using apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 01:21.58 | nsadmin | that's the opposite! you don't turn on a pron movie... |
| 01:22.07 | MasterBlaster | without a sneezy ? :) |
| 01:22.17 | MasterBlaster | Hell yeah! :) |
| 01:22.25 | nsadmin | pron movies turn on you! |
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| 01:23.10 | MasterBlaster | nsadmin: you turn on snot movies.. im not following you. |
| 01:23.43 | Judas_PhD | MasterBlaster: It's related to my leaving a PhD program 5 years into it, before I finished my PhD. |
| 01:23.53 | nsadmin | that would be a good thing... I'd have to deal with you if you were following me... |
| 01:24.29 | MasterBlaster | Judas_PhD: Im outling the DOM. Do you like the DOM-tree as is ? |
| 01:25.06 | MasterBlaster | nsadmin: Weird but cute. Ssh. |
| 01:25.42 | nsadmin | then don't bang on people so much :P |
| 01:26.30 | MasterBlaster | Judas_PhD: You can always reinit the course-tree you know. Fillin the gaps. |
| 01:26.54 | MasterBlaster | nsadmin: Shebangs ? |
| 01:27.25 | nsadmin | no, more like effectively chasing people away unnecessarily |
| 01:27.48 | nsadmin | showing mean streak, that kind of thing |
| 01:28.09 | MasterBlaster | nsadmin: Oh yes, i see she is hot 4 you. No need to bang away at innocent chairs :) |
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| 01:29.38 | MasterBlaster | Judas_PhD: What was the name of your professor ? |
| 01:30.19 | amphi | notes that MasterBlaster fails the Turing test |
| 01:30.50 | MasterBlaster | amphi: Tuhurimatestings ? / Sweet ? /no |
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| 01:32.00 | MasterBlaster | notes that amphi might fail the touring test... come on.... |
| 01:33.07 | MasterBlaster | amphi... |
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| 01:33.59 | man_in_ltop | waves |
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| 01:34.13 | MasterBlaster | I think amphi has already lost. |
| 01:34.19 | man_in_ltop | i'm trying to set up a nfs4 share and i'm getting "Protocol not supported" from mount.nfs4 |
| 01:34.28 | man_in_ltop | i'm on unstable |
| 01:34.44 | PhoenixAndThor | Hello everyone |
| 01:35.25 | tonhe | Ok.. latest procmail seems to of removed procmail_wrapper.. any suggestions on getting this working again??? I've tried changing my postfix mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -a "$EXTENSION" DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir |
| 01:36.04 | PhoenixAndThor | I've been searching for quite a while (about 2 days) trying to find a way to get AWN to display on all my tags (using wmii here) |
| 01:36.30 | MasterBlaster | man_in_ltop: Make sure the mount directory is there. Make sure of-a-bunch-of-different-things (Same as cifs samba mounts i guess. Really hard to get right) |
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| 01:38.50 | PhoenixAndThor | nobody here uses wmii? |
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| 01:42.05 | MasterBlaster | man_in_ltop: Check my cifs mount cmd: mount -t cifs //192.168.0.11/video /var/ftp/pub/P4_Video -o username=MyUsername,password=MyPassword,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 |
| 01:42.29 | MasterBlaster | This cmd is ok. |
| 01:42.32 | man_in_ltop | sure |
| 01:42.43 | MasterBlaster | Yes, sure |
| 01:42.45 | man_in_ltop | but nfs doesn't know about users, for a start :P |
| 01:43.13 | man_in_ltop | given the specific error message, i'm wondering what exactly doesn't support the protocol |
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| 01:43.24 | MasterBlaster | man_in_ltop: Buhu, well.. i need to make a gui for that next then :) |
| 01:44.15 | MasterBlaster | Its the same type of cifs / sharing stuff conf. Not hard to do given a bit of time. |
| 01:45.04 | man_in_ltop | hm |
| 01:45.29 | man_in_ltop | looks like i need to check my server's kernel config |
| 01:45.43 | MasterBlaster | I see some people are taking up the gadmintools, but some are still lacking their masters. |
| 01:46.43 | man_in_ltop | oh shazbot |
| 01:46.50 | man_in_ltop | need to upgrade server's kernel |
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| 01:48.31 | MasterBlaster | _thalamus: Mind be at peace and of of soul. |
| 01:48.34 | man_in_ltop | ****ity |
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| 01:48.40 | MasterBlaster | . |
| 01:49.02 | joshdreamland1 | I apt-get'd libwxbase-2.8-dev; why is setup.h missing?3 |
| 01:49.06 | joshdreamland1 | s/3$/ |
| 01:50.15 | MasterBlaster | joshdreamland1: Im just curious, but why is that old wx-widget set around to this date ? |
| 01:50.38 | joshdreamland1 | ? |
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| 01:51.03 | joshdreamland1 | I'm not sure I know what you're asking |
| 01:51.26 | MasterBlaster | joshdreamland1: As i reference i have, FileZilla. Its a very good application, but its slow as hell to fire up... Im sorry if that hurt anyone,but it is. |
| 01:51.50 | joshdreamland1 | O...K? |
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| 01:52.06 | MasterBlaster | libwxbase-2.8-dev |
| 01:52.14 | MasterBlaster | WX widget set |
| 01:52.19 | joshdreamland1 | yes |
| 01:52.43 | joshdreamland1 | FileZilla's an FTP client, isn't it? |
| 01:52.50 | vivid | yes |
| 01:53.02 | joshdreamland1 | I don't know what it has to do with wx in general... |
| 01:53.17 | vivid | thats what the ui is built with |
| 01:53.30 | joshdreamland1 | So? |
| 01:53.44 | joshdreamland1 | Are we blaming wx for its speed entirely? |
| 01:53.50 | MasterBlaster | joshdreamland1: Yes, and possibly the only application built ontop of wxwidgets (Its my ftp client of choise but we can recode it very fast to gtk+ or something ?) |
| 01:54.07 | vivid | i use it as well |
| 01:54.13 | MasterBlaster | Naah, probably not... are we blaming anything ??... |
| 01:54.15 | vivid | no speed issues |
| 01:54.16 | joshdreamland1 | It's certainly not the only wx application... |
| 01:54.33 | joshdreamland1 | Code::Blocks, Audacity |
| 01:54.53 | vivid | i use audacity too, no speed issues |
| 01:55.11 | MasterBlaster | josh, i agree with you there most likely, although its the only use ive tried. |
| 01:55.26 | joshdreamland1 | It's not wx's fault that the FileZilla team thought it'd be great to read their UI from XML files for an hour at startup |
| 01:55.52 | MasterBlaster | josh, I used the old "TK" and loads of languages before that, AMOS etc so i see your point. |
| 01:55.56 | joshdreamland1 | Anyway, that aside, setup.h is missing, and I have no idea what to populate it with |
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| 01:57.05 | MasterBlaster | joshdreamland1: Yep, i saw it was some sort of a coders-lazyness that it would take up to a minute to get the interface up. |
| 01:57.35 | vivid | /usr/lib/wx/include/base-unicode-release-2.8/wx/setup.h |
| 01:57.49 | joshdreamland1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.02 | MasterBlaster | joshdreamland1: I mean, its not even reading a very long logfile of some gigabytes or so. Its just sloow, but nice :) |
| 01:58.11 | joshdreamland1 | *shrug* |
| 01:58.12 | nvz | rubs his eyes and tries to make sure he's not in ##programming |
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| 01:58.55 | joshdreamland1 | nvz: Ironically, that's where I just came from |
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| 01:59.13 | vivid | joshdreamland1, if you need setup.h, try looking in /usr/lib/wx/include/base-unicode-release-2.8/wx/setup.h |
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| 01:59.20 | joshdreamland1 | we were having a discussion about how wx offers nice things (namely, a GL context), but that's neither here nor there. |
| 01:59.31 | nvz | joshdreamland1: I wasn't even sure if that channel existed.. I just looked in and didn't see anything that looked familiar (debian) being said.. |
| 01:59.36 | joshdreamland1 | /lib/, vivid? |
| 01:59.55 | vivid | /usr/lib/wx/include/base-unicode-release-2.8/wx/setup.h is where that package installs setup.h |
| 02:00.04 | joshdreamland1 | lol, what hel |
| 02:00.13 | vivid | http://packages.debian.org comes in handy |
| 02:01.04 | MasterBlaster | #SHEEP 1 \ nvz: (a+z || 3 !=4 + 5) sheep(a) { count{ for i = 1; { sheep(i)} usleep(SHEEP)} |
| 02:01.07 | joshdreamland1 | Should I just -I/usr/lib/wx/include/base-unicode-release-2.8/wx/ ? |
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| 02:02.31 | MasterBlaster | But where is sheep(), sheep fell right asleep(); ;) |
| 02:03.11 | MasterBlaster | AAh, look how cuddley they are... my little kittons :) |
| 02:03.13 | vivid | joshdreamland1, i bet the debian build system will do that fun stuff for you |
| 02:05.32 | joshdreamland1 | oh, turns out, wx-config does that for me |
| 02:05.38 | joshdreamland1 | but it's not being invoked or something |
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| 02:06.25 | vivid | apt-get build-dep <package> && apt-get source <package> && cd <pdir> && debuild -b |
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| 02:07.19 | MasterBlaster | But why has wxwidgets been resurrected now after all these years of, well not beeing used ? |
| 02:07.40 | vivid | i use applications built with it every day |
| 02:07.52 | MasterBlaster | Wich ones ? |
| 02:08.04 | Mad-Scientist | pathetic writer |
| 02:08.07 | Mad-Scientist | siag office |
| 02:08.08 | vivid | audacity for studio recording and filezilla for ftp transfers |
| 02:08.46 | Mad-Scientist | I'm thinking of libMowitz |
| 02:08.58 | MasterBlaster | Oh noes, the audacity :) |
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| 02:10.03 | MasterBlaster | Cant you fix the audacity or zilla to work with other objects ? |
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| 02:10.35 | MasterBlaster | simonrvn: TROLL |
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| 02:11.36 | vivid | its not broken, why "fix" it? |
| 02:11.37 | dvs | hello to you too! |
| 02:11.49 | joshdreamland1 | MasterBlaster: there's nothing wrong with wx in the slightest |
| 02:12.04 | joshdreamland1 | ...save for the massive compile time of the project itself |
| 02:12.17 | joshdreamland1 | I mean, what the hell ;_; |
| 02:12.22 | vivid | more cores |
| 02:12.30 | joshdreamland1 | :P |
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| 02:13.16 | bonny | Alot of people use debian is it a good distro |
| 02:13.36 | engla | bonny: yes, it is good |
| 02:14.10 | vivid | apt > rpm |
| 02:14.10 | apt | Red Hat's package management system. URL: http://www.rpm.org/ |
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| 02:14.43 | MasterBlaster | joshdreamland1: Compile time isnt so huge. Ive tested that for my own dist. Its just about the necessity. Sure having loads of things working is cool, but at one point or another they converge coders. As TK said, maybe the ZK's converge to form a master octet ;) |
| 02:15.06 | joshdreamland1 | ... |
| 02:16.17 | MasterBlaster | Thousands of coders to form one masterblaster code :) |
| 02:16.33 | joshdreamland1 | this reminds me of a dream I had not long ago |
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| 02:17.23 | joshdreamland1 | euphoric nonsense with bouts of lucidity, I mean |
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| 02:20.14 | MasterBlaster | QT coders, no way... not all of them because most of them have been hell bound on making a norwegian dollar or so it seems. Most have now been released but i dont like their way of thinking, so for atleast 2-3 more years theyll have to be on their own out in the cold. |
| 02:21.42 | MasterBlaster | Its more important to be nice, then to have never been nice at all ;) |
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| 02:22.51 | MasterBlaster | And believe me, some idiots surely deserve to get.... IT :) |
| 02:23.35 | MasterBlaster | Plays Starchild Starchild |
| 02:24.32 | MasterBlaster | Swiss, Go play {} ! |
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| 02:25.05 | abrotman | MasterBlaster: shut up already |
| 02:25.14 | MasterBlaster | If your mind is of evil nothing can come of it. |
| 02:25.51 | MasterBlaster | No thank you, im good. |
| 02:26.31 | dvs | has what MasterBlaster is having |
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| 02:29.23 | nsadmin | dvs: mean-spiritedness? |
| 02:29.30 | MasterBlaster | dvs, abrotman: Coersion of what is deemed as feelings. Generally its these feelings that make up a human beeing, or as some would put it, the soul of these beeings. Its utmost beautiful in most shapes. |
| 02:29.32 | joshdreamland1 | dvs: Cocaine? |
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| 02:29.59 | abrotman | MasterBlaster: #debian-offtopic please |
| 02:30.00 | MasterBlaster | hehe, youre so funnix |
| 02:30.06 | MasterBlaster | sorry |
| 02:30.34 | MasterBlaster | naah ;) .. but accepted! |
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| 02:32.42 | MasterBlaster | abrotman: Your stirn but fair, stirn.. but.. fair. I wish to have to in Debian for 5 more years if i may ? |
| 02:32.53 | MasterBlaster | to/you |
| 02:33.20 | abrotman | keep it on-topic |
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| 02:34.03 | MasterBlaster | Yes! Acceptable ? y/n ? |
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| 02:35.24 | MasterBlaster | Good |
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| 02:40.57 | la_tristesse | test |
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| 02:42.38 | blakkheim | does the squeeze kernel support intel's AESNI on both x86 and x86_64, just one or the other, or neither? |
| 02:42.56 | abrotman | do you know the kernel config option |
| 02:42.57 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:43.13 | tonytraductor | I just installed squeeze on an iMac G3, but, upon restarting the system, after running through the usual boot messages, I get a blank screen, as if, perhaps, gdm fails to start. |
| 02:43.20 | blakkheim | i don't offhand, but if you grep for aes it might show the name |
| 02:43.24 | xyan | ONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_NI_INTEL |
| 02:43.30 | tonytraductor | this yaboot boot manager doesn't seem to be offering me the option to boot to a root console, either. |
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| 02:43.48 | blakkheim | yes that's probably the one |
| 02:43.51 | tonytraductor | this would be my first experience with yaboot, or mac hardware |
| 02:44.07 | abrotman | tonytraductor: there is a #debianppc on irc.oftc.net |
| 02:44.14 | tonytraductor | ok |
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| 02:45.02 | tonytraductor | thanks |
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| 02:46.13 | courpse | Where is evolutions log file? |
| 02:46.20 | blakkheim | abrotman or xyan do you know if it's enabled? |
| 02:47.13 | abrotman | on amd64, it's not set |
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| 02:51.41 | xyan | blakkheim: find it out there http://merkel.debian.org/~jurij/ |
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| 03:03.40 | MasterBlaster | Look at the stars and youll see that its real, if you look at the stars then youll know youre a starchild. |
| 03:04.30 | MasterBlaster | Youre born as a starchild. |
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| 03:07.24 | MasterBlaster | <-- QiangFu. Mioato, enviem dadatos ? |
| 03:07.25 | tonytraductor | does anybody here have any knowledge or experience with debian on ppc |
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| 03:07.54 | tonytraductor | nobody at #debianppc at oftc responds to anything, and I have limited time to get this machine working |
| 03:08.14 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: crosscompiled stuff for it, so a bit |
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| 03:09.07 | MasterBlaster | jrib: Had any ribs lately ? :) |
| 03:09.33 | tonytraductor | I installed squeeze on an iMac G3, but after install, restarting the system runs through a bunch of messages (normal), and then just drops to a blank screen, as if X or gdm fails to start or something |
| 03:09.53 | tonytraductor | this yaboot boot loader doesn't give me the option to boot straight to a console, either. |
| 03:10.07 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: Simple bootup question. |
| 03:10.45 | tonytraductor | I don't know if it's a hiccough in the boot process, a problem with Xorg, a problem with gdm...because I can't even get a console and look at dmesg or anything |
| 03:10.50 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: add the word "single" after the kernel boot line |
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| 03:11.02 | MasterBlaster | then press b |
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| 03:11.08 | tonytraductor | but I can't even get a console so I can get in and edit the kernel boot line |
| 03:11.32 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: Stops before gurb loads then ? |
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| 03:11.39 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: Stops before grub.. |
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| 03:11.58 | tonytraductor | there is no grub. this powerppc uses something called "yaboot" for the bootloader |
| 03:12.01 | jrib | MasterBlaster: actually, you are making me hungry... |
| 03:12.40 | tonytraductor | at start, it offers to boot the linux kernel in its config, or boot from a cd |
| 03:12.56 | tonytraductor | the only bootable Cd I have for this archis the install cd I just used to install |
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| 03:13.06 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: Yahoo! bootings! ... jrib (Git back here so i can eat the breast of you:) |
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| 03:13.14 | grog | how can i test a box's aes-cbc-128 performance? |
| 03:14.09 | yvemath | What's the executable name for "gdisk" in util-linux ? I've installed util-linux but i when i type "gdisk" it says command not found ? |
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| 03:14.18 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: I have used GNU/Linux and all other things since i was born and never heard of this Yahoo bootings. Is it serious ? |
| 03:14.50 | tonytraductor | I don't know. All I know is there is no grub. The bootloader in this thing is "yaboot". |
| 03:14.54 | MasterBlaster | granted i also used Vectrix and a bunch of other systems |
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| 03:15.41 | tonytraductor | and the normal boot process runs its course, then the screen blanks. |
| 03:15.54 | tonytraductor | and this yaboot boot loader doesn't offer me the option to boot to a console |
| 03:15.58 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: I hope someone knows this odd bootloader of yours. |
| 03:16.05 | tonytraductor | and nobody in debianppc @ oftc.net answers anything |
| 03:16.22 | flypiper | yaboot is, like, the primary bootloader for NewWorld PowerMacs, it should be installed with ybin. You can find a HOWTO at http://penguinppc.org/projects/yaboot/doc/yaboot-howto.shtml. Yaboot is in the debian package "yaboot" |
| 03:16.29 | abrotman | tonytraductor: did you try just typing 'single' ? |
| 03:16.31 | tonytraductor | I waited forever in #debianppc, no response |
| 03:16.40 | tonytraductor | type single where? |
| 03:16.43 | tonytraductor | I can't get a console |
| 03:16.51 | MasterBlaster | on the boot line tony |
| 03:17.13 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: the yaboot boot loader is itself a console |
| 03:17.15 | MasterBlaster | press ESC a few times after the bios kicks in |
| 03:17.22 | tonytraductor | that wasn't offered as an option. it said "l for linux, c for cdrom" |
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| 03:17.27 | tonytraductor | lemme try that (Esc) |
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| 03:17.33 | ZitZ | Hi, when I try connecting a bluetooth device with bluez-simple-agent, it says "authentication canceled", any ideas? |
| 03:17.34 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: that's the first stage; do you get a yaboot prompt? |
| 03:17.39 | MasterBlaster | Gent |
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| 03:18.11 | dondelelcaro | (that's just the OF bits, not the actual yaboot loader itself) |
| 03:18.18 | MasterBlaster | Imnna listen to some musics and i trust you figure them there out. |
| 03:18.24 | tonytraductor | typing single is unproductive. it wants l for linux or c for cdrom |
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| 03:18.36 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: right, do you get anything after that? |
| 03:18.51 | tonytraductor | not unless I give it l for linux |
| 03:18.56 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: or do you just immediately get a blank screen without a yaboot prompt if you hit l? |
| 03:19.06 | tonytraductor | then it goes through the process, automatically, until it finishes and the screen blanks |
| 03:19.12 | tonytraductor | as if Xorg or gdm fail |
| 03:19.21 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: so the kernel actually starts booting? |
| 03:19.21 | tonytraductor | but I never get a chance to get a console |
| 03:19.30 | tonytraductor | yes, the kernel IS booting |
| 03:19.54 | flypiper | tonytraductor, you prolly have a console on the serial port |
| 03:20.05 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: ok, then boot off of an install cd, mount the partition, chroot into it, edit the yaboot configuration to increase the timeout, and then rerun ybin |
| 03:20.24 | tonytraductor | the install cd is not a livecd |
| 03:20.28 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: doesn't matter |
| 03:20.41 | CyL | Hi folks, I plan on deploying LVM on a bunch of loopback files, so I'd like to know how much extra space to add in each file to keep storage losts at a minimum, due to metadata overhead, and last PE misalignement. I have made some experimentation, and found that reserving extra 512K on each file would allow me to only lose those aditional 512K, is that a magic number or does it varies between different setups? |
| 03:20.43 | tonytraductor | its not letting me boot from the cd |
| 03:20.47 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: why not? |
| 03:20.58 | dondelelcaro | CyL: please don't ask the same question in both #debian channels |
| 03:21.19 | CyL | dondelelcaro: sorry, I did not know the were rules against this |
| 03:21.34 | tonytraductor | it goes to the yaboot boot prompt, it offers me "l for linux, c for cdrom", c for cdrom fails with "no image" message (even with the cd I just used for install in the drive) |
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| 03:22.04 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: ok, reboot the machine and hold down c initially (or cd? whatever the key is) to force it to boot from cd |
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| 03:22.20 | tonytraductor | which key would that be? |
| 03:22.26 | tonytraductor | I really know nothing of these macs |
| 03:22.28 | dondelelcaro | alternatively, you may have to force it to boot using OF; the install guide explains how to do this |
| 03:22.43 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: it depends on the model; it used to just be the c key. |
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| 03:23.09 | MasterBlaster | dondelelcaro: I wish to thank you so very much. Send my regards to sysfault and cairo's :) |
| 03:23.20 | tonytraductor | alt/option key, okay, booting from install cd now |
| 03:24.35 | MasterBlaster | Judas_PhD: Welcome back! :) |
| 03:24.56 | tonytraductor | ok, booted from the install cd, language selection screen |
| 03:25.13 | tonytraductor | oh, going to execute a shell |
| 03:25.44 | tonytraductor | ok, where is the hdd on this thing to mount? |
| 03:25.48 | tonytraductor | I have no idea |
| 03:27.28 | tonytraductor | I can't find any documentation for iMac, only powermac |
| 03:27.33 | MasterBlaster | The executing a shell part/chrooting cannot fail unless the system youre chrooting to is in serious disarray. Even then its just about replacing some binaries here and there :) |
| 03:27.36 | tonytraductor | I don't what/if difference there is there |
| 03:28.02 | tonytraductor | ok, I have a shell via the isntall cd now, but I don't know what my next move is |
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| 03:28.09 | tonytraductor | I don't even know where the hdd to mount it |
| 03:28.19 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: Trust the force luke. Documentation is needless then. |
| 03:28.29 | dondelelcaro | MasterBlaster: stop, please. |
| 03:28.32 | MasterBlaster | ok |
| 03:28.37 | tonytraductor | don't get cocky kid |
| 03:28.47 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: there's no difference beween imacs and powermacs |
| 03:28.54 | tonytraductor | I used to bullseye womp rats in my t16 back home. this is nothing like that |
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| 03:28.56 | dondelelcaro | (at least, as far as this is concerned) |
| 03:28.59 | dvs | tonytraductor: You could try "fdisk -l" to list the hard drives |
| 03:29.08 | dvs | (at least on a PC) |
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| 03:29.18 | tonytraductor | I did but got /bin/sh: fdisk: not found |
| 03:29.21 | mister_m | is there a gui to help me manage monitors I am connected to? for example, assisting me with a dual monitor setup? possibly one part of gnome? |
| 03:29.23 | tonytraductor | this is ash not bash |
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| 03:29.35 | joeb_ | hi guys |
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| 03:29.50 | joeb_ | for some reason i can't use my touch pad |
| 03:29.54 | joeb_ | i can move my mouse and all |
| 03:29.56 | joeb_ | but i can't click |
| 03:30.04 | joeb_ | should i reboot or what trick can i uase |
| 03:30.10 | joeb_ | s/uase/use |
| 03:30.30 | joeb_ | p |
| 03:30.36 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: you want pdisk -l or pfdisk -l |
| 03:30.59 | dondelelcaro | mister_m: yes, or you could use xrandr. |
| 03:31.06 | MasterBlaster | tonytraductor: I have GNASH. We like to code some bash at times when we get tired of it or so :) |
| 03:31.17 | dondelelcaro | (the gnome thing is called gnome-randr-applet or some such) |
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| 03:32.59 | joeb_ | p |
| 03:32.59 | joeb_ | umm |
| 03:32.59 | joeb_ | 0 |
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| 03:33.15 | sterna | how rude |
| 03:33.20 | SpitfireWP | v. rude |
| 03:33.53 | tonytraductor | pdisk not found |
| 03:34.01 | tonytraductor | pfdisk not found |
| 03:34.11 | tonytraductor | I read this http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch07s01.html.en#id533219 still no help |
| 03:34.12 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: hrm... does cfdisk exist? |
| 03:34.21 | tonytraductor | cfdisk not found |
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| 03:34.28 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: well, cat /proc/partitions; then |
| 03:35.02 | tonytraductor | aha! cat /proc/partitions gvae me a list |
| 03:35.11 | dondelelcaro | there's also mac-fdisk, and you could just ls /sbin/; or ls /bin; |
| 03:35.23 | tonytraductor | hda - hda5, not sure which is the hdd,but probably the biggest one, yes? |
| 03:35.34 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: you can try them all |
| 03:36.01 | tonytraductor | none of them are in /etc/fstab |
| 03:37.20 | tonytraductor | I'm booted from the install media |
| 03:37.20 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: none of them are going to be in /etc/fstab... |
| 03:37.20 | tonytraductor | there's nothing useeful in /etc/fstab |
| 03:37.20 | tonytraductor | right |
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| 03:37.20 | tonytraductor | but when I try to mount any of them, I get "not found in /etc/fstab" |
| 03:37.20 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: uh... how are you trying to mount them? |
| 03:37.20 | tonytraductor | mount /dev/hda$ |
| 03:37.20 | dondelelcaro | that isn't going to work |
| 03:37.32 | tonytraductor | sipo, not working |
| 03:37.39 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: you want mkdir foo; mount /dev/hda1 foo; or similar. |
| 03:38.00 | mister_m | dondelelcaro: how does that work - do I run it when I plug in the second monitor? |
| 03:38.05 | dondelelcaro | mister_m: yes |
| 03:38.27 | dondelelcaro | mister_m: it's probably an applet or something; I personally don't use gnome |
| 03:38.29 | tonytraductor | wierd |
| 03:38.36 | tonytraductor | I did mkdir foo, foo now exists |
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| 03:38.43 | dondelelcaro | yes.... |
| 03:38.50 | tonytraductor | I tried mount /dev/hda3 foo/ |
| 03:38.59 | tonytraductor | I got failed: No such file or directory |
| 03:39.06 | mister_m | dondelelcaro: right now I'm using awesome |
| 03:39.06 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: ls -l /dev/hda* |
| 03:39.31 | un214 | how can I tell where an extension is coming from? |
| 03:39.33 | dondelelcaro | mister_m: well, I personally just use xrandr in awesome, myself... but that's because I don't like the GUI |
| 03:39.46 | dondelelcaro | un214: what do you mean by extension? |
| 03:39.54 | un214 | sorry, firefox |
| 03:39.56 | tonytraductor | ls -l /dev/hda* still gives me hda - hda5 (6 in all) |
| 03:40.07 | un214 | I have this ubuntu firefox customizations that has unisntall greyed out |
| 03:40.10 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: well, try another drive, or type dmesg; to see precisely why it failed |
| 03:40.12 | un214 | as if it were system installed |
| 03:40.45 | dondelelcaro | un214: apt-cache search; will tell you the package name, and you can then dpkg -l it if you think it was installed by the system |
| 03:40.58 | un214 | I don't know the filename yet |
| 03:40.58 | dondelelcaro | alternatively, it could be built into ubuntu's firefox package |
| 03:41.09 | dondelelcaro | un214: that's why I said apt-cache search... |
| 03:41.16 | un214 | except for the fact that ubuntu's firefox package would not be isntalled by debian |
| 03:41.29 | un214 | my firefox is compiled from source |
| 03:41.33 | MasterBlaster | After 15 years of searching for people i may have found 10 that are good enough and are what im looking for in coders. If all my cats sais Mjau, like they did just now it means double their salories for 3 years in a row, starting at 194.000 dollars generally. Should i make such a purchase i would never inhibit the power of freedom in any way. Well, good night, and be good to one another as best possible! |
| 03:41.37 | mister_m | I installed the gnome-randr-applet but I can't run it from the command line |
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| 03:41.48 | tonytraductor | it won't mount any of the six |
| 03:42.03 | dondelelcaro | tonytraductor: hrm. check what dmesg says |
| 03:42.14 | nvz | anyone have thoughts on seeing the transfer speed of a file I cp over nfs? |
| 03:42.26 | dondelelcaro | nvz: use rsync |
| 03:42.26 | tonytraductor | dmesg says a lot of stuff...what should I be looking for? |
| 03:42.34 | tonytraductor | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:42.37 | nvz | dondelelcaro: never thought of that |
| 03:43.00 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I have a p2p openvpn tunnel and wondering if ssh or nfs is faster basically |
| 03:43.10 | dondelelcaro | ISTR newer or some versions of cp have that too |
| 03:43.19 | dondelelcaro | nvz: oh, just use rsync in both cases, then... |
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| 03:44.45 | joeb | netflix on debian ? any success ? |
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| 03:45.24 | dondelelcaro | joeb_: if someone has succeeded, it'd show up on google. |
| 03:45.41 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I figured scp would be slower but I guess if I use rsync both ways I'll find out |
| 03:45.54 | joeb_ | let me install wine .. it has IE |
| 03:46.26 | nvz | I swear scp tab-completed a remote filename for me earlier |
| 03:46.36 | dondelelcaro | nvz: it can... |
| 03:46.49 | un214 | ok it was already gone |
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| 03:46.52 | nvz | yeah that surprised me |
| 03:46.55 | un214 | enable it and it doesn't exist anymore |
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| 03:47.54 | man_in_ltop | ok |
| 03:47.59 | man_in_ltop | so now i have nfs4 set up and mounted |
| 03:48.10 | man_in_ltop | but idmapd doesn't seem to be doing anything |
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| 03:49.07 | tonytraductor | I figured out hwo to get a root console (wihout the install cd) |
| 03:49.10 | tonytraductor | I'm in |
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| 03:50.17 | nvz | WOW! I was getting 6.25MB with nfs over openvpn |
| 03:50.22 | nvz | then it seems to have stalled |
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| 03:50.29 | nvz | probably killed the remote bandwidth |
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| 03:55.51 | man_in_ltop | nvz, nfs4 by any chance? |
| 03:56.10 | tonytraductor | oky, when Xorg starts, screen goes blank |
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| 03:56.22 | tonytraductor | I can't find an Xorg.conf...shouldn't I have one of those? |
| 03:56.31 | man_in_ltop | tonytraductor, not by default, no |
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| 03:58.09 | tonytraductor | well, do I need one to run X? |
| 03:58.21 | nvz | man_in_ltop: its whatever nfs-kernel-server in squeeze is |
| 03:58.24 | fr0stbyt3 | trying to get virtualbox guest working on debian. says failed. where would I find the startup script? file doesnt exist in my googles. http://cl.ly/59ZU |
| 03:58.36 | man_in_ltop | nvz, depends on your kernel :D |
| 03:58.46 | nvz | it just put rsync into an uninterruptable state and I can't do shit with nfs or rsync |
| 03:59.01 | nvz | man_in_ltop: stock squeeze kernel too |
| 03:59.07 | tonytraductor | kernel 2.6.32-5-powerpc |
| 03:59.19 | man_in_ltop | nods |
| 03:59.23 | man_in_ltop | probably nfs4 |
| 03:59.27 | man_in_ltop | oops |
| 03:59.30 | man_in_ltop | probably nfs3 :) |
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| 04:00.16 | tonytraductor | I can't ifup eth0 from the root console, either. |
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| 04:00.34 | tonytraductor | I think I'm missing something there...been so long since I had to start networking from the console |
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| 04:01.20 | man_in_ltop | aahha! |
| 04:01.26 | man_in_ltop | found something |
| 04:01.37 | man_in_ltop | /etc/default/nfs-common |
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| 04:03.02 | man_in_ltop | huh |
| 04:03.20 | man_in_ltop | ok, rpc.idmapd is running now |
| 04:03.41 | man_in_ltop | but still not getting usernames in ls -l for the mounted nfs4 share |
| 04:06.14 | mrdeb | debian overflow? |
| 04:06.20 | mrdeb | what is that |
| 04:06.29 | nvz | apparently I can't use rsync over nfs... it just goes up to like 35 or 50mb/sec and choaks |
| 04:06.44 | nvz | it seems to clog up the tunnel and die |
| 04:07.02 | man_in_ltop | mrdeb, if #debian is full you get esnt to #debian-overflow |
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| 04:08.20 | nvz | seems like rsync over ssh throttles down to a workable level and rsync over nfs choaks the connection in a matter of seconds |
| 04:08.36 | mrdeb | ok |
| 04:09.06 | man_in_ltop | nvz, sounds about right :P |
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| 04:10.48 | tonytraductor | this might be significant: Can't start hardware abstraction layer - please ensure dbus is running ... failed |
| 04:10.52 | tonytraductor | what's that all about? |
| 04:11.05 | nvz | man_in_ltop: that sucks... heh |
| 04:11.23 | mrdeb | does pulseaudio improve sound quality at all |
| 04:11.23 | mrdeb | i noticed that it adjust the different alsa channels at hte same time, instead of just master, for ex |
| 04:11.37 | man_in_ltop | lol |
| 04:11.47 | man_in_ltop | mrdeb, no, pulseaudio doesn't improve anything :P |
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| 04:12.28 | mrdeb | but it looks slick, eh |
| 04:12.36 | man_in_ltop | not really |
| 04:12.55 | man_in_ltop | your choice though |
| 04:12.55 | mrdeb | you are rather one sided |
| 04:14.03 | man_in_ltop | dmix should be fine for most users |
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| 04:15.09 | mrdeb | what is dmix |
| 04:15.33 | nvz | software mixing in ALSA |
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| 04:24.36 | jnewt | i am thinking about letting someone i don't trust completely backup some of their stuff to my server. what is the best to use, ftp? scp? how should i get this started? |
| 04:24.50 | un214 | normally scp |
| 04:25.08 | un214 | make sure you disable port forwarding for their account |
| 04:26.25 | jnewt | un214. I don't have any iptables entries on the server. I handle the traffic at the router. does your comment about forwarding still apply, I would have to enable the scp port forwarding through the router to the server. |
| 04:26.40 | un214 | it applies for ssh's port forwarding |
| 04:27.18 | un214 | you need to make sure ssh -N -L12:127.0.0.1:6000 doesn't work |
| 04:27.59 | jnewt | excuse me while i dissect that. |
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| 04:28.31 | un214 | the option seems to be AllowTcpForwarding No but that does so for all users |
| 04:29.00 | jnewt | ok, the -N does not execute a remote command. this would seem less harmful than without it. |
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| 04:31.14 | un214 | what they can do is scan all open ports on the target machine right through the firewall |
| 04:31.29 | un214 | and furthermore to the rest of the LAN |
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| 04:31.39 | jnewt | and the -L binds the local port 12 to the localhost port 6000. |
| 04:31.50 | un214 | the -N option is nasty and allows port forwarding even if the shell is /bin/false |
| 04:33.33 | un214 | here's how to block it |
| 04:33.38 | jnewt | so, say they can ssh back into the machine from itself (which is how i understand that command. |
| 04:33.52 | jnewt | wait, i want to fully understand before going to the solution please |
| 04:33.56 | un214 | AllowTCPForwardingForUsers, and list the users allowed to do so |
| 04:34.02 | un214 | the problem is |
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| 04:34.16 | un214 | say you've got X11 locally (you probably do) |
| 04:34.22 | jnewt | I don't |
| 04:34.31 | jnewt | but say i do |
| 04:34.33 | un214 | anywhere on your LAN is sufficient |
| 04:34.42 | jnewt | ok |
| 04:35.00 | un214 | and say you got lazy and did xhost + so remote X works easily |
| 04:35.09 | jnewt | ok |
| 04:35.12 | Bhavicp | Would anyone know why even if i add "auto lo eth0 eth0:0" to the interfaces file, it doesn't start up eth0:0 ? |
| 04:35.14 | un214 | "hey it's a secure lan I'm the only one here not" |
| 04:35.39 | un214 | but he can bind a port on his machine to connect to X11 on your machine |
| 04:35.53 | un214 | and steal all your keystrokes |
| 04:35.56 | jnewt | so now he looks like a local user |
| 04:36.13 | un214 | now you will probably avoid that one |
| 04:36.24 | un214 | but yes he can do anything anybody can do on that LAN |
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| 04:36.41 | un214 | even if you give him a restricted shell that can only do scp he can have a heyday |
| 04:37.21 | un214 | you got a database server? |
| 04:37.32 | jnewt | i have mysql on the machine |
| 04:37.51 | un214 | he can bang on the mysql port, trying username and password combinations without being easily traced |
| 04:37.57 | un214 | ssh -N isn't logged correctly |
| 04:38.12 | un214 | I'll bet your mysql app passwords aren't all that well chosen |
| 04:38.25 | jnewt | probably not |
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| 04:39.14 | un214 | so AllowTCPForwardUsers (or Groups) to list everybody else so he can't do that |
| 04:39.30 | un214 | http://superuser.com/questions/229743/howto-disable-ssh-local-port-forwarding, second answer down |
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| 04:42.34 | jnewt | ok, so this should do it then, after a restart of ssh AllowTcpForwarding no; AllowTcpForwardingForUsers myusername, root; |
| 04:42.35 | azura | HI, I'm having a bit of a problem. The other day my boss asked me to encrypt the drives of one of our machines that has a bunch of proprietary trade secrets on it, and then move /boot to a USB drive so that it can't be booted with out that USB drive. Everything worked fine when I went to boot the machine last night, but I just booted it now, and grub is giving me an Error 15: File not found. I've googled to see if there might be any solutions, |
| 04:42.35 | azura | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:43.08 | azura | Does anyone here have any knowledge about things like this, or know of a tutorial that they could point me to so I can try to fix it? Formatting the machine is not really an option |
| 04:44.22 | jnewt | azura: there are images built for booting from usb. one thing i found on one computer, it would not work, i think there must be some hardware requirement for booting from usb. |
| 04:45.06 | jnewt | un214: so do i need to create a system account for this? |
| 04:45.32 | jnewt | guess is yes |
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| 04:47.34 | jnewt | i am worried about permissions on other files and folders, I haven't really paid that much attention to my internal stuff, and am afraid some of the permissions are too open on files and folders. can you recommend a way to check these system-wide for the new user? |
| 04:47.52 | azura | jnewt, its not an image built for booting from USB, its a regular debian install that we moved /boot onto a USB for security purposes. Grub is still loading, it just doesn't seem to be finding the kernel |
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| 04:49.20 | jnewt | azura: all the data is on the pc hdd's right? just install debian on the usb using a google tutorial. much easier than trying to copy and modify the already installed system imho |
| 04:49.27 | tharkun | azura: FTR if the information on that server is so important, you might as well have a backup. Remember metals have no word |
| 04:50.05 | azura | tharkun, our last backup was a week ago. We do backups on Fridays. Unfortunately a weeks worth of loss is still pretty bad for us :( |
| 04:50.44 | tharkun | azura: Someone should have thought of that before. :| |
| 04:50.47 | jnewt | azura: use rsync for incrementals. |
| 04:51.05 | HandyGandy | My hard drive is dieing, the good news is that I was going to replace it anyway on Monday. I am using Mint right now but was thinking of converting to either LDME of Debian. Is there a way comparing versions of packages to get an idea of which one has certain newer packages? |
| 04:51.11 | azura | tharkun, yeah, I know, but I'm just following company policy. |
| 04:51.38 | jnewt | azura: don't be a lemming |
| 04:51.43 | azura | the guy before me was an idiot, but also a friend of the owner, so what he layed down as "policy" is set in stone |
| 04:52.00 | tharkun | azura: Most of the times it is a suit who is responsible for some major screw up |
| 04:52.29 | azura | regardless of how stupid company policy is, or whose fault it is, I need to see if I can fix it. Any chance you know anything about how to do so? |
| 04:52.31 | in2tactics | isn't that always the way tho |
| 04:52.48 | jnewt | but they don't get blamed, you do. do incrementals, just tell him you're doing friday backups. he won't know will he? |
| 04:53.01 | in2tactics | can't u do both? |
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| 04:53.28 | azura | that's probably what I will do from now on, since my job appears to be on the line over this one despite the fact I told him the other day we should move to daily backups |
| 04:53.56 | jnewt | then, when s**t hits the fan, you restore from your incremental, and tell him you just saved a days worth of every employees time, then request one extra day of vaca for every employee |
| 04:54.21 | azura | lol, that'd be awesome. I doubt it would ever happen thoug |
| 04:54.44 | Rusty1 | azura: grub2? |
| 04:54.47 | azura | however, regardless of what should be done in the future, I need to be able to fix this now. Anyone have any idea of how I should go about doing it? |
| 04:54.56 | azura | Rusty1, no, I installed grub-legacy |
| 04:55.02 | Dewi | azura: it's quite reasonable to do daily incrementals and full on fridays |
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| 04:56.39 | Dewi | azura: as for your problem, I'd say the probe order has changed, maybe your usb is probing before the HD now |
| 04:56.57 | Dewi | azura: you can make grub, initrd, and fstab all use volume labels tho |
| 04:57.33 | azura | Dewi, its booting in the right order. Grub is loading from the USB, the problem is that its not finding the kernel on the USB drive |
| 04:57.38 | Dewi | azura: in the mean time there should be grub commands you can enter to override the config and use the correct disk |
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| 04:58.16 | azura | if it were looking at the wrong disk first, it wouldn't even be loading grub, because there is no grub on the HDD, grub is only on the USB |
| 04:58.22 | Dewi | azura: yes, grub and the initrd have configuration that locates those |
| 04:59.08 | Rusty1 | azura: a visit to #grub might be worthwhile |
| 04:59.18 | azura | Rusty1, thank you, I'll try them |
| 04:59.39 | Dewi | azura: any time you're using pluggable disks order can change and you need to use labels or guids |
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| 05:01.07 | Dewi | azura: so for example my grub's menu.lst defines the kernel as: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=LABEL=vetchroot ro |
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| 05:01.57 | azura | Dewi, it is using a label. |
| 05:02.12 | azura | I set it up correctly, and it has been working for about a week now. |
| 05:03.01 | azura | this is the first issue that I've had with it |
| 05:03.46 | Dewi | azura: did you update the initrd? |
| 05:04.10 | Dewi | I think it also embeds those settings? sorry my memory is kind of fuzzy |
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| 05:04.55 | Dewi | !menu.lst |
| 05:05.00 | Dewi | !grub |
| 05:05.00 | dpkg | [grub] GNU GRUB (GRand Unified Bootloader) 0.9x, aka GRUB Legacy. A powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes and understands many filesystems. To install: "aptitude install grub grub-doc" ("aptitude install grub-legacy grub-legacy-doc" for Squeeze). To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. To migrate from LILO, ask about <lilo->grub>. See also <grub errors>, <grub2>, <supergrub>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
| 05:05.12 | Dewi | !grub errors |
| 05:05.12 | dpkg | i guess grub.errors is GRUB error X? Go to http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/Troubleshooting.html to find out what it means. |
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| 05:05.47 | Dewi | HandyGandy: packages.debian.org |
| 05:06.08 | Dewi | HandyGandy: most quality distros have a web site you can search to see the status of key packages |
| 05:06.50 | Dewi | HandyGandy: in general debian's freshness will date to around freeze time, which was august 2010 this time around |
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| 05:08.05 | Dewi | HandyGandy: but there are volatile & backports for rapidly changing & other key packages you might want to upgrade prior to next release |
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| 05:08.18 | extraclassic | i'm having trouble configuring mplayer in debian...it's not working like the other mplayer packages I've used...all I get is a blue control window with sound and no video |
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| 05:10.36 | HandyGandy | Dewi: SO to sum up your long and tedious answer. You don't have a clue? |
| 05:11.10 | Dewi | HandyGandy: I'm pretty sure it would have taken longer to list the version numbers of 8,000 packages to you |
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| 05:12.48 | Dewi | HandyGandy: everyone else ignored your question because it was totally fucking vague, btw |
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| 05:16.10 | joshdreamland1 | /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/cursor.h|65|error: âwxIsBusyâ was not declared in this scope| |
| 05:16.12 | HandyGandy | Dewi: Everyone else didn't answer because no one had an answer. A very wise thing to do. You should perhaps take a hint about being in a room where everyone thinks you are a fool from Abraham Lincoln. |
| 05:16.19 | joshdreamland1 | W. T. F. |
| 05:16.39 | Rusty1 | HandyGandy: while you're waiting for a more suitable answer, a man read of apt-file and apt-cache might be worthwhile |
| 05:16.46 | joshdreamland1 | Honestly, this doesn't make a bit of sense. I can't even compile their example "Hello, world" program, because their own libraries are erroring. |
| 05:16.49 | Dewi | HandyGandy: you think there's a simple answer to "compare 16,000 numbers"? |
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| 05:17.08 | joshdreamland1 | My attempts to fix the problem with #define only led to it telling me my configuration is incorrect. Which REALLY pissed me off. |
| 05:17.25 | Dewi | HandyGandy: I gave you the closest thing to an answer you're ever going to get, and way more than you deserve for asking such a lazy question |
| 05:17.28 | joshdreamland1 | Damned thing can tell when the configuration's not right, except when apt-get configured it <_<" |
| 05:17.48 | Dewi | HandyGandy: now fuck off, this is a debian support channel, not your distro comparison trolling area |
| 05:17.49 | mrdeb | lol |
| 05:18.28 | jnewt | heh |
| 05:18.39 | tensorpudding | please be civil and watch the language |
| 05:19.14 | jnewt | Dewi: you held out a long time. |
| 05:19.40 | Dewi | jnewt: ? |
| 05:20.00 | joshdreamland1 | Dewi: He's complimenting you for putting up with what's-his-ass for so long |
| 05:20.16 | Dewi | heh |
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| 05:20.49 | Dewi | :) |
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| 05:25.08 | HandyGandy | Rusty1: That was more in the line of what I was expecting. The question is how to use the "apt stack" to generate a list of "base" packages and versions in some sort of clean tabler that can be compared with other tables. And how to do it with a set of repositories not in your sources.list. |
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| 05:29.51 | jnewt | I am reading this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 , and i don't know what it means when it says i need to configure OpenSSH to use its internal SFTP subsystem. can anyone put this in simple terms |
| 05:30.37 | jnewt | in fact, they might has well have written that article in arabic (i don't speak arabic) i need to find another article |
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| 05:36.24 | Dewi | jnewt: man sshd_config, search for sftp |
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| 05:38.12 | jnewt | Dewi: yeah, i read what the sftp-server program does from that manual. |
| 05:39.09 | jnewt | the man pages always leave out all the why's |
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| 05:41.55 | karlpinc | I just typed a password into shell. How do I erase the line from the command history? |
| 05:42.20 | jnewt | i want to use ChrootDirectory to force a root directory for a certain user. |
| 05:42.27 | karlpinc | jnewt: Simple terms. You must have sshd turn on sftp. |
| 05:42.40 | Bhavicp | karlpinc: rm -rf ~/.bash_history |
| 05:42.42 | Bhavicp | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.04 | jnewt | karlpinc: if this is a must, why is it not automatic |
| 05:43.07 | karlpinc | Bhavicp: Do I need to exit the shell first. (And I don't really want to erase the whole history.) |
| 05:43.18 | Dewi | jnewt: if you just want to enable it, debian enables it by default, via this line: Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server |
| 05:43.26 | Dewi | jnewt: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 05:43.28 | Bhavicp | in that case, you can just edit the file, karlpinc. |
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| 05:43.40 | karlpinc | Bhavicp: It's not in ram anywhere and will be re-created? |
| 05:43.49 | Bhavicp | No i don't believe so. |
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| 05:43.58 | karlpinc | Bhavicp: I'll give it a go. Thanks. |
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| 05:44.34 | Dewi | jnewt: oh, the manual mentions that specifically too. It says if you're doing that you can simplify things by using 'Subsystem internal-sftp' instead |
| 05:44.53 | Dewi | jnewt: but that's all I know |
| 05:45.23 | karlpinc | Bhavicp: It seems I must exit the shell before the history file is written. |
| 05:45.42 | Bhavicp | Ahh, yes sorry, forgot about that. |
| 05:46.02 | jnewt | alright, that is already in my sshd_config file. |
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| 05:46.55 | karlpinc | jnewt: Then you need to restart sshd. |
| 05:47.19 | karlpinc | jnewt: (Assuming you made a change.) |
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| 05:48.02 | jnewt | i have not made any changes. just trying to understand at this point. so far, i understand that i need to enable a "subsystem" in order to "simplify things" |
| 05:48.16 | jnewt | which isn't much |
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| 05:49.33 | jnewt | what i need is a list of things necessary to allow single directory access via scp while ensuring the security of the network and the server. |
| 05:49.57 | jnewt | which seems as though it may take days or weeks to get there. |
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| 05:51.37 | karlpinc | jnewt: So instead of reading the manual and understanding what you're doing you're willing to take advice from strangers and you think this will ensure the security of your network? |
| 05:51.54 | jnewt | absolutely not |
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| 05:52.28 | jnewt | I am willing to take strangers explanations and apply them to what I have read to clarify to myself what is necessary. |
| 05:52.36 | jnewt | nothing more |
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| 05:56.22 | karlpinc | jnewt: Perhaps you should tell us your real goal. I'm not up on limiting what scp can do, but I do know that scp more or less is like having a user account with the sort of access any user can have to reading and writing anywhere. You're probably better off using public/private key pairs and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys with 'command=' and all the no- stuff turned on. |
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| 05:59.39 | jnewt | karlpinc: my goal is to allow a person to store some files on my server safely. that is the "real goal" |
| 06:00.07 | jnewt | or maybe the "first goal" |
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| 06:01.08 | optraz | any online video streaming? im having mp3 streaming using kplaylist but im looking something similar for video |
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| 06:03.09 | karlpinc | jnewt: So you want someone to upload something and not otherwise have access, right? |
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| 06:06.00 | jnewt | yes, except they should be able to retrieve or delete what they've uploaded, no execute for sure |
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| 06:08.07 | karlpinc | jnewt: Do the need to be able to list what's there and should any permissions be preserved (I assume not.) |
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| 06:09.22 | twiggz | Hello, internets. |
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| 06:10.01 | jnewt | yes, they should be able to see what's there. whatever permissions they might have set on their local system, i think they should get back whatever they put there, including their permissions, if they put a file there with execute permissions and then get it back, they should be able to execute it, but not on my system. |
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| 06:11.00 | jnewt | karlpinc, I am dealing with a person who likely won't know what permissions are. |
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| 06:12.17 | karlpinc | jnewt: You'll at least need a separate partition mounted noexec so you can have execute permissions but the program won't execute. (Or you write some custom app to preserve such meta-information.) |
| 06:13.12 | ov3rmind | night :) |
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| 06:14.54 | karlpinc | jnewt: I don't know the right way to limit what the remote user can see. The wrong way is with a chroot, which works but is not really secure. |
| 06:15.51 | jnewt | karlpinc: hm, that's how debian-administration.org shows to do it, using chroot() from ChrootDirectory |
| 06:17.09 | karlpinc | jnewt: Chroots can be broken, although may be good enough for your purposes they're not ment to be a security tool. |
| 06:18.15 | karlpinc | jnewt: sshd may have some magic baked-in that makes chroots more secure. I don't know. |
| 06:19.00 | karlpinc | jnewt: I assume your problem is you want some sort of "standard" user interface, so you choose sftp. |
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| 06:20.15 | jnewt | well, i am reaquainting myself with winscp, i have set this up for myself in the past, where i didn't really care about the user's security, it was for me alone, my client and server. |
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| 06:21.09 | jnewt | i don't know how secure it was, i never could get the keyfiles to work. |
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| 06:28.05 | rubin110 | Ok, I'm RemoteForwarding ports over SSH, the remove machine is only allowing me to connect to those ports through localhost, but not any of the network interfaces, what am I doing wrong? |
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| 06:30.50 | karlpinc | jnewt: fireftp is a nice firefox plugin that does sftp. |
| 06:30.54 | LinuxGuy2009 | NM Im an idiot helps if I read the tooltip. Doh |
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| 06:31.44 | jnewt | karlpinc: i just got the portable version of winscp to connect. so i am on the way, just need to lock it down and that's now where i'm stuck. |
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| 06:32.40 | jnewt | it appears that the ssh_config file is pretty wide open as far as permissions, which seems like a bad default. |
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| 06:35.59 | karlpinc | jnewt: No. All users using ssh need to be able to see the file. You're more interested in locking down sshd_config. |
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| 06:39.07 | jnewt | that's what's i'm looking at, i mistyped the filename |
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| 06:41.59 | peterrooney | jnewt: why would you want your ssh server's settings hidden from those who would use it? |
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| 06:43.17 | jnewt | why would i want to allow people to see my server's settings? |
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| 06:44.50 | peterrooney | jnewt: if they can see it, it means they can (or already have) ssh'd into the machine. |
| 06:45.33 | peterrooney | ...using the very configuration within that file |
| 06:47.10 | jnewt | i have no idea what you are talking about. if i have someone using winscp log in, i want them to see basically nothing but their directory. |
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| 06:47.36 | jnewt | definately not sshd_config |
| 06:47.41 | jnewt | much less change it |
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| 06:50.06 | Dewi | karlpinc: opensshd has process sandboxing, not sure whether it chroots or not |
| 06:50.40 | Dewi | jnewt: my /etc/ssh/sshd_config is -rw-r--r-- 1 root root |
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| 06:51.11 | Dewi | jnewt: so it's not writeable. Don't put secrets in it |
| 06:51.48 | Dewi | jnewt: you can probably chroot users though |
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| 06:52.10 | jnewt | Dewi: can i do DenyGroups * , then Allow only certain with a Match? how does that look? |
| 06:53.17 | jnewt | like for me, i want X11Forwarding, but I want to deny it to everyone else. not sure how that is supposed to look. |
| 06:53.36 | Dewi | jnewt: probably but the might be the wrong order |
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| 06:54.08 | Dewi | jnewt: er hang on, they have a set order of interpretation: DenyUsers, AllowUsers, DenyGroups, and finally AllowGroups. |
| 06:54.31 | Dewi | jnewt: so I guess that might be fine. Depends whether a successful stops the processing of other rules |
| 06:54.53 | Dewi | jnewt: actually, just specifying only an allow changes the default to deny |
| 06:55.14 | Dewi | jnewt: "If specified, login is allowed only for user names that match one of the patterns." |
| 06:55.21 | jnewt | where are you reading this, i have the man page up right now. |
| 06:55.29 | Dewi | jnewt: sshd_config |
| 06:55.53 | Dewi | under the various allow/deny commands |
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| 07:17.18 | Days` | Hello there, i have a debian repository in local, it's up to date with the script ftpsync, but it doesn't work anymore , and i have the following error: Unexpected remote arg: ftp.debian.org::debian, does any of you had this problem too ? |
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| 07:23.48 | jnewt | Dewi: ok, i've setup a new user, an they cannot log in, however, i can login with them to locally. is there another password file? |
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| 07:24.58 | Dewi | jnewt: not sure what you mean. Is the only difference the source IP address? |
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| 07:25.40 | jnewt | source ip is the same, i am just trying two diff usernames from the same location, one works, the other doesnt. |
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| 07:28.04 | jnewt | i can su to that user once ssh'd in, but no direct ssh connect |
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| 07:31.33 | jnewt | /etc/init.d/sshd stop doesn't seem to be working |
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| 07:32.23 | jnewt | how do i stop the sshd server and reload the config file. |
| 07:32.42 | jnewt | /etc/init.d/ssh restart doesn't seem to do anything |
| 07:33.03 | freebroy | did u edit ssh_config or sshd_config? ;) |
| 07:33.08 | jnewt | yes |
| 07:33.34 | jnewt | and now i want to restart sshd |
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| 07:34.59 | jnewt | /etc/init.d/ssh stop says Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd but it's still running. |
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| 07:35.44 | freebroy | killall -9 sshd |
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| 07:38.03 | jnewt | well, that did it. |
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| 07:40.38 | jnewt | still no luck thogh, somehwere i am allowing one user and not ther other. not sshd_config though, i have checked there. |
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| 07:42.28 | jnewt | can log in locally |
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| 07:55.32 | jnewt | i found the problem, if i put the ChrootDirectory /path/to/group/directories/%u in sshd_config, any user in the group under that match cannot log in |
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| 08:06.50 | jnewt | garbage! |
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| 08:25.13 | larloch | Ok, so there is a testing branch as well as a wheezy branch. How does the security for wheezy compare to the security to squeeze/stable? Does it not get patches as fast? And doesnt running the older versions in squeeze make you more vulnerable? |
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| 08:30.30 | jnewt | i'm trying to chroot someone's login in the sshd_config file. i want their root directory to be /media/work/SCP/%u, so i put that in the file. i am getting an error in the log: |
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| 08:31.02 | jnewt | sshd[7211]: fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory component "/media/work/" |
| 08:31.44 | jnewt | this is a folder that I think it wants owned by root with no other write permissions. is this true. if so, i don't want that, so i'm out of luck |
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| 08:36.24 | nsadmin | something happen in japan? |
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| 08:37.28 | jnewt | apparently it's impossible to have a persons root directory in anything that is not owned by root |
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| 08:39.56 | man_in_ltop | "a person's root directory" is what exactly? |
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| 08:40.21 | satellit_afk | http://www.weather.gov/ptwc/ tsunami in japan |
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| 08:42.19 | nsadmin | satellit_afk I just heard about a 8.9 earthquake in japan causing a possible tsunami which could affect the west coast of US |
| 08:42.21 | jnewt | man_in_ltop normally it's either / or /home/%u |
| 08:42.37 | man_in_ltop | so you mean home directory |
| 08:42.56 | nsadmin | he hasn't asked a question that I see |
| 08:42.57 | jnewt | yeah, but they can't go ../ if you chroot them |
| 08:42.58 | satellit_afk | nsadmin: hawaii is warning of waves coming |
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| 08:43.50 | nsadmin | jnewt: any of this a bad thing? |
| 08:45.14 | jnewt | no, except i have a work folder, owned by jnewt , that i want to have a directory within it that i can chroot an ssh user into. i get errors if the work foldre isn't owned by root with no other write permissions, and then i can't write to it. |
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| 08:48.55 | jnewt | so either one of those scenarios is |
| 08:49.01 | jnewt | "a bad thing" for me |
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| 08:49.22 | jnewt | so, what can i do? |
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| 08:55.49 | Schmoove | hello all. I just switched to using debian for the first time after 4 years of gentoo :) |
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| 08:57.37 | jelly-home | oh noes |
| 08:58.19 | satish | hey can anyone help me setup a wired network connection in debian? |
| 08:59.25 | rozie | satish: man interfaces, if that won't help - describe your problem |
| 09:00.06 | niklaswe | satish: will you get ip from dhcp or static? |
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| 09:00.16 | satish | hey rozie thanks for replying, my prob is as follows: |
| 09:00.18 | kli0rf | hi |
| 09:00.26 | satish | dhcp |
| 09:00.39 | niklaswe | satish: edit your /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 09:01.03 | satish | we have already installed the network manager gnome... but we unable to connect to the network.. |
| 09:01.07 | kli0rf | could anyone tell me how could i make my secondary soundcard as default? |
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| 09:01.22 | satish | we have already edited it.. but it doesn seem to work |
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| 09:01.56 | niklaswe | add iface <interface> inet dhcp |
| 09:02.06 | satish | we referred to the wiki debian manual regarding the same.. but v stil have prob |
| 09:02.22 | satish | my interface is eth0 |
| 09:02.45 | zyga | satish, do you want to use gnome network manager or /etc/network/interfaces to setup your network? |
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| 09:03.17 | satish | anything whicheve is much simpler |
| 09:03.30 | zyga | satish, are you using gnome as the desktop? |
| 09:03.57 | satish | we also want to connect our laptop to a pre existing wifi netwok.. |
| 09:04.03 | satish | yes.. |
| 09:04.29 | zyga | satish, can you please click on the network manager icon in the panel and tell me if you see your wireless network there? |
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| 09:05.14 | satish | we dont have network manager icon on panel.. |
| 09:05.48 | satish | i am new to debian, how do i start network manager in debian? |
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| 09:06.51 | prince_jammys | you start the service with ''sudo invoke-rc.d network-manager start'' |
| 09:06.53 | satish | zyga can u help me connect to a pre existing wifi network in my campus? |
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| 09:07.09 | prince_jammys | you start the applet with ''nmapplet &'' |
| 09:07.11 | anddam | hi |
| 09:07.16 | prince_jammys | nm-applet, rather. |
| 09:07.26 | zyga | satish, do you know how the icon looks like? it should be right in the panel? |
| 09:07.55 | zyga | satish, which version of debian are you running? |
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| 09:08.13 | satish | i installed a package for network manager also it shows in command line but icon does not appear in the network.. |
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| 09:08.21 | satish | in the panel i mean... |
| 09:08.27 | satish | 6.0 |
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| 09:08.57 | satish | i just downloaded the sqeeze version last week.. |
| 09:09.04 | zyga | satish, could you please ensure you have network-manager-gnome installed? |
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| 09:09.35 | satish | i have installed by downloading the package and using dpkg to install... |
| 09:10.05 | zyga | quite not gets how it's not installed by default... |
| 09:10.31 | zyga | satish, could you first try this |
| 09:10.39 | satish | k tell me.. |
| 09:10.39 | zyga | satish, sudo dhcient eth0 |
| 09:10.49 | zyga | satish, (ensure your cable is plugged in obviously) |
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| 09:10.54 | satish | k.. |
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| 09:11.03 | zyga | satish, then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome |
| 09:11.04 | prince_jammys | missing an l in 'client' |
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| 09:11.18 | zyga | prince_jammys, right thanks |
| 09:11.22 | jhutchins_lt | Sigh, Crashity bang fwup, there goes flash on iceweasle again. |
| 09:11.28 | zyga | satish, sudo dhclient eth0 |
| 09:12.06 | satish | i dont have a internet connection right now so i ll have to download individual packages and use dpkg.. |
| 09:12.33 | zyga | satish, once you invoke dhclient you will |
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| 09:13.02 | zyga | satish, dhclient is installed by default, even if you don't know how to setup / use other, more friendly methods of connecting this will allow you to install packages with apt |
| 09:13.13 | satish | k.. |
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| 09:15.05 | satish | hey i ll am on windows ight now i ll switch to debian and use some other terminal to connect to #debian is that k zyga? |
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| 09:15.24 | zyga | satish, do you have two computers? |
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| 09:15.31 | zyga | satish, it's best if you can keep talking to us here |
| 09:15.33 | man_in_ltop | only two? |
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| 09:16.47 | satish | YEAH I HAVE TWO COMPUTERS... |
| 09:16.56 | man_in_ltop | ONLY TWO?!? :P |
| 09:17.02 | man_in_ltop | let's have a shouting match |
| 09:17.03 | zyga | satish, so please connect the second one and boot debian there |
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| 09:17.16 | satish | actually many i am in a lab ight now.. |
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| 09:17.39 | satish | i want internet in this laptop that i am using right now.. |
| 09:19.15 | satish | hey zyga is it alight? |
| 09:19.38 | zyga | satish, yes, as long as we can still talk here so that you can get help if you get stuck on something |
| 09:19.41 | zyga | satish, go ahead |
| 09:19.46 | satish | i ll first connect to the channel from other computer and then log off from here |
| 09:20.04 | satish | yeah i really need ur help thanks zyga.. |
| 09:20.12 | satish | just give me a moment.. |
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| 09:20.22 | zyga | ok |
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| 09:23.38 | Sos`` | hi |
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| 09:23.56 | satish_ | hey zyga!! |
| 09:24.03 | zyga | :-) |
| 09:24.11 | satish | i ll log off now.. |
| 09:25.14 | Sos`` | hey there's no libmysqlcppconn for lenny :( what can I do? |
| 09:25.24 | Sos`` | do i need to upgrade to squeeze? |
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| 09:25.56 | xyan | judd: versions libmysqlcppconn5 |
| 09:25.57 | judd | Package libmysqlcppconn5 on i386 -- sid: 1.1.0-2 |
| 09:26.09 | xyan | its not even in squeeze so nope |
| 09:26.23 | Sos`` | 4 is on squeeze |
| 09:26.35 | xyan | oh |
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| 09:26.57 | satish_ | zyga i have another prob.. |
| 09:26.58 | Sos`` | hmm... i guess i just compile from source |
| 09:27.11 | Sos`` | i hope it doesn't depend on half of the insternets |
| 09:27.29 | quuxman | has anyone sucessfully used cap_setuid? |
| 09:27.49 | satish_ | zyga u there??? |
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| 09:28.01 | zyga | satish_, yes, I'm waiting for you to describe the problem |
| 09:28.36 | satish_ | k while booting debian it takes a long time at "starting NFS common utilities:statd |
| 09:29.04 | satish_ | and it always ultimately fails.. |
| 09:29.09 | zyga | satish_, ignore that for now |
| 09:29.19 | satish_ | k.. |
| 09:29.26 | satish_ | just logged into debian |
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| 09:29.30 | zyga | did not actually use debian daily for some time |
| 09:29.37 | zyga | it's been a while since I last saw that one :D |
| 09:29.47 | satish_ | hehe.. |
| 09:30.31 | satish_ | sudo command not found.. |
| 09:30.33 | mAniAk-_- | where can one find a ps bin file that works on debian sarge? Linux godzilla 2.4.27-1-386 #1 Fri Sep 3 06:24:46 UTC 2004 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 09:31.21 | zyga | satish_, so you downloaded squeeze, right? |
| 09:31.31 | satish_ | yeah.. |
| 09:31.48 | petemc | mAniAk-_-: you can get older packages from archive.debian.org |
| 09:31.53 | satish_ | yes zyga |
| 09:32.10 | zyga | satish_, perhaps debian is still using su, not sure really |
| 09:32.17 | zyga | satish_, try running su |
| 09:32.21 | satish_ | i logged in as su.. |
| 09:32.22 | zyga | and then as root dhclient eth0 |
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| 09:32.28 | satish_ | k.. |
| 09:32.46 | zyga | that should give you network assuming your campus is not running any wired network security |
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| 09:33.21 | satish_ | shall i try running command as normal user? |
| 09:33.39 | zyga | no, it's okay |
| 09:33.53 | mAniAk-_- | petemc: debian/pool/main/ ? |
| 09:33.57 | zyga | satish_, just tell me what you run and what it does for you so that I know where you are in the process |
| 09:34.18 | satish_ | it says command not found.. |
| 09:34.24 | satish_ | can i just confirm with a command wheather i have squeeze itself or something else? |
| 09:35.04 | zyga | you could try |
| 09:35.07 | mAniAk-_- | petemc: is ps located in another package maybe? |
| 09:35.15 | zyga | lsb_release -a |
| 09:35.29 | satish_ | i ran su and then root dhclient eth0, and it says bash:root: command not found |
| 09:35.38 | zyga | ? |
| 09:35.43 | zyga | wonders what you actually installed |
| 09:36.02 | petemc | !tell mAniAk-_- about sarge sources.list |
| 09:36.09 | zyga | could you please point me to the installation media you downloaded and describe briefly what options did you select when installing? |
| 09:36.26 | petemc | mAniAk-_-: procps package |
| 09:36.28 | satish_ | lsb_release: command not found!! |
| 09:36.46 | zyga | could you try uname -a |
| 09:36.52 | zyga | and tell me the kernel version please |
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| 09:37.31 | satish_ | linux debian 2.6.32-5-686 |
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| 09:38.42 | satish_ | yeah i just downloaded it last week.. |
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| 09:39.26 | satish_ | why is sudo command not working...? does it need a package? |
| 09:39.29 | zyga | satish_, do you have a desktop environment or barebone console/shell |
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| 09:39.57 | zyga | satish_, I must say I do not use debian daily (I'm running ubuntu) but AFAIR sudo should be available |
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| 09:40.40 | satish_ | desktop environment.. |
| 09:41.14 | zyga | do you get any kind of notification after plugging/unplugging the network cable? |
| 09:41.52 | satish_ | no nothing... |
| 09:41.55 | bolt | connecting with winscp to my debian server, it does not enable utf-8 for filenames. its manual says that when utf-8 is set to "auto", it will use it for sftp protocol version >=4. how can i find out which sftp protocol my server supports? |
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| 09:42.31 | bolt | i can enable it manually, and utf-8 filenames show up fine. but by default winscp will store files which names look messed up on the local system |
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| 09:43.05 | satish_ | i dnt get any alert when i unplug it or plug it.. |
| 09:43.35 | satish_ | hey it shows an alert!!! |
| 09:43.39 | zyga | satish_, did the installation complete normally? were there any choices you had to made that could limit what is available post install? |
| 09:43.42 | zyga | satish_, ah! |
| 09:43.45 | zyga | satish_, :-) |
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| 09:43.47 | satish_ | it says connection established |
| 09:43.53 | zyga | ok |
| 09:43.57 | zyga | so now it should work :D |
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| 09:44.26 | satish_ | what shud i do now tell me... |
| 09:44.33 | zyga | satish_, ensure it works |
| 09:44.36 | zyga | satish_, |
| 09:44.44 | zyga | satish_, open a browser and check google for example |
| 09:45.00 | satish_ | k.. |
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| 09:45.43 | satish_ | no its not working :( |
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| 09:46.06 | jnewt | http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny this is a pain, is there an easier way to chroot an sftp user? |
| 09:46.17 | Sos`` | debian is cool :* |
| 09:46.20 | zyga | satish_, could you please open a terminal (alt+ctrl+t) and type "ifconfig" - it should tell you something about your network connections |
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| 09:46.40 | jnewt | Sos``, cool like ice cream, headaches and all |
| 09:46.48 | Sos`` | haha |
| 09:46.55 | Sos`` | i need to learn vim tho |
| 09:47.10 | Sos`` | or some ncurses edit thingie |
| 09:47.20 | jnewt | and about 1000 other things. |
| 09:47.29 | Sos`` | nah |
| 09:47.41 | satish_ | shall ishow u the ouput?? |
| 09:47.41 | Sos`` | i just want to be able to mess with sources via ssh |
| 09:47.58 | jnewt | been working on setting up sftp, what a pain |
| 09:48.05 | Sos`` | also, twell me will bin built on ubuntu work with debian? |
| 09:48.12 | Sos`` | if i have the deps |
| 09:48.17 | Sos`` | but different kernel |
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| 09:48.35 | scoobertron | Sos``: nano is a nice terminal editor |
| 09:48.55 | Sos`` | thx ;) |
| 09:49.01 | zyga | satish_, try to find the line with your ip address if you can |
| 09:49.40 | satish_ | inet address : 192.168.2.81 |
| 09:50.43 | satish_ | hey zyga?? |
| 09:50.45 | zyga | satish_, could you try pinging google.com |
| 09:50.51 | satish_ | k |
| 09:51.42 | satish_ | yeah i am getting 64bytes replies... |
| 09:51.42 | architekt | Hi, does anybody have problems with Vimperator in Debian Squeeze since the firefox update a few days ago? |
| 09:52.04 | satish_ | i am receiveing packets.. |
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| 09:52.45 | satish_ | i am receiving packets zyga!! |
| 09:52.53 | zyga | satish_, you said the browser did not work, could you please be more specific what failed |
| 09:53.04 | zyga | satish_, also please be patient, this is not a phone call |
| 09:54.02 | satish_ | it says the server at www.google.com is taking too long to respond |
| 09:54.35 | satish_ | do i have to change the browser network settings? |
| 09:55.13 | satish_ | so far i have set manual proxy configuration.. |
| 09:55.27 | Sos`` | so will the ubuntu binary executable run on debian? |
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| 09:55.40 | Sos`` | or do i need to recompile? |
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| 09:58.45 | dshbusiness | Hello, I connected my TFcard reader to my computer, but it always said "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock", and cannot be mounted automatically. How can I solve it? |
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| 10:01.14 | man_in_ltop | dshbusiness, well, mounting it manually ... how is it getting mounted (or not) atm? |
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| 10:01.41 | jnewt | the fact that a chrooted directory and all parent directories must be owned and only writeable by root for sshd_config is really bothering me. it seems wrong. is there a fix for this? why can't i jail a user to their directory? |
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| 10:02.07 | simonrvn | jailing ssh is complicated... |
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| 10:02.24 | jnewt | i got it to work, it is complicated, i agree. |
| 10:02.24 | man_in_ltop | chroot isn't a very good jail anyway |
| 10:02.33 | simonrvn | use a restricted shell for them if you need it, or use sftp |
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| 10:02.49 | man_in_ltop | jnewt, are you using normal chroot or something more configurable like schroot? |
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| 10:03.14 | dshbusiness | man_in_ltop: yes, I can mount that manually. But I must use sudo. So, it is very unconvient to copy or move files into it. |
| 10:03.15 | jnewt | i am using sftp, openssh and the ChrootDirectory in sshd_config. with the howtoforge tutorial. |
| 10:03.27 | jnewt | man_in_ltop^ |
| 10:03.43 | jnewt | it just seems that it has been done incorrectly. |
| 10:03.45 | man_in_ltop | dshbusiness, ok, but what mounting method gives you that error? |
| 10:03.59 | man_in_ltop | hm |
| 10:04.17 | jnewt | not that i could do better, but that someone else hasn't fixed it seems un-linux-like |
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| 10:04.31 | simonrvn | !chroot ssh |
| 10:04.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, ssh chroot is Stop. Read http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/121/325425/30/0/ and think it through a little more. This is hard, massively wasteful of disk space, and almost certainly a waste of time. |
| 10:04.35 | man_in_ltop | i think i toyed with that a little ... but i had to restrict the user to sftp for it to be secure |
| 10:05.02 | man_in_ltop | well, both secure and not a huge waste of diskspace :D |
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| 10:05.54 | man_in_ltop | the most fun was the easiest way to get files into the account was to sftp them to localhost :D |
| 10:06.18 | dshbusiness | man_in_ltop: When I pluged my card-reader in, that error message occours. However, I have tried a u-disk just now, and it works normally. |
| 10:06.49 | man_in_ltop | ok, so it'll be a hal/udev automount thing then |
| 10:07.15 | man_in_ltop | dshbusiness, you could mount it manually, then get the info from "mount" to stick into fstab |
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| 10:07.51 | satish | hey zyga, did u send a reply? |
| 10:08.18 | jnewt | simonrvn: thats a lot about keys and operating system stuff. i just want a user to be able to read and write to a directory remotely. maybe sftp / ssh isn't the best way to go. this seems extrodinarily complicated. |
| 10:09.16 | xyan | !sshfs |
| 10:09.16 | dpkg | A FUSE-based filesystem that uses <SSH>, packaged for Debian. It is a nifty way to securely mount remote resources and doesn't rely on NFS or samba. See http://fuse.sf.net/sshfs.html, http://sf.net/apps/mediawiki/fuse?title=FAQ . Remember to add yourself to the 'fuse' group. Ask me about <fuse>. |
| 10:09.31 | simonrvn | sftp is a very limited subset for ssh. there's not much they can do |
| 10:09.32 | zyga | satish, I did not notice your answer to my last question, what failed in the browser |
| 10:09.42 | dshbusiness | man_in_ltop: I want to use my tf-card-reader as a u-disk. Could I make this if I write the information of mount into fstab? |
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| 10:10.01 | simonrvn | sshfs is useful and limited |
| 10:10.28 | satish | the browser says google.com is taking too long to respond... i asked u if we needed to configure the browser connection settings too presently i have set it to manual proxy.. |
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| 10:11.01 | man_in_ltop | dshbusiness, whatever works for you :) |
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| 10:11.30 | dshbusiness | man_in_ltop: OK, let me try it. Many thanks. |
| 10:11.35 | satish | zyga, the browser says google.com is taking too long to respond... i asked u if we needed to configure the browser connection settings too presently i have set it to manual proxy.. |
| 10:11.54 | zyga | satish, do you have to use a proxy? |
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| 10:12.08 | zyga | satish, I'd try direct connection first, unless you absolutely have to use a proxy to connect |
| 10:12.39 | man_in_ltop | i don't suppose anyone here can help me with nfs4 |
| 10:13.06 | satish | yes in our college we have to use proxy server to connect to internet.. |
| 10:13.52 | zyga | satish, then double check all proxy settings, it seems that's what's causing the problem |
| 10:13.56 | satish | zyga, proxy is a must and i have the proxy server's address too but even after entering it does not seem to work.. |
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| 10:14.12 | zyga | satish, perhaps your network uses a .pac file |
| 10:14.21 | zyga | satish, check the settings from your windows machine |
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| 10:17.00 | satish | how do i change dns server settings in debian zyga? |
| 10:17.27 | zyga | satish, it's assigned by the DHCP server, you need to setup static IP to change it reliably |
| 10:17.33 | simonrvn | /etc/resolv.conf |
| 10:17.35 | zyga | satish, otherwise it's in /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 10:18.02 | satish | i cant have static ip zyga.. |
| 10:18.07 | man_in_ltop | does anyone know what idmapd does in the context of nfs4? |
| 10:18.18 | zyga | satish, why do you want different DNS server then? |
| 10:18.37 | simonrvn | rpc.idmapd â NFSv4 ID <-> Name Mapper |
| 10:18.45 | simonrvn | man it ;) |
| 10:19.21 | man_in_ltop | simonrvn, that says what it is, not what it DOES |
| 10:19.25 | dshbusiness | man_in_ltop: I find it. I found a line in my fstab /dev/sdb1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
| 10:19.42 | simonrvn | uh, maps names to ids? |
| 10:19.51 | satish | zyga how do i configure network settings for my machine?? |
| 10:19.52 | simonrvn | and v-v |
| 10:19.55 | man_in_ltop | dshbusiness, ah, so because it's actually a vfat filesystem, automounter thingy is giving up? |
| 10:20.03 | simonrvn | !interfaces |
| 10:20.03 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
| 10:20.09 | zyga | satish, in gnome-network-manager or in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:20.10 | dshbusiness | man_in_ltop: when I comment that line, my card can be mounted automatically. |
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| 10:20.11 | man_in_ltop | simonrvn, the question really is: how can i make sure it's doing what it's supposed to? |
| 10:20.18 | man_in_ltop | dshbusiness, congrats :) |
| 10:20.23 | rob789 | hi |
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| 10:20.31 | satish | in gnome-network manager |
| 10:20.39 | simonrvn | ls in a mounted nfs mount? |
| 10:20.54 | man_in_ltop | yup |
| 10:20.58 | man_in_ltop | and i get lines like this: |
| 10:21.07 | man_in_ltop | -rw-r--r-- 1 4294967294 4294967294 4 Mar 11 19:16 foo |
| 10:21.13 | man_in_ltop | ^^ uid and gid are always the same |
| 10:21.19 | satish | zyga in network manager gnome |
| 10:21.22 | man_in_ltop | idmapd is running on the client |
| 10:21.59 | simonrvn | then it isn't |
| 10:22.05 | man_in_ltop | right |
| 10:22.07 | zyga | satish, right-click on the icon in the panel and reconfigure the interface, I cannot remember because I almost never do this nowdays, if you find the icon you'll be okay |
| 10:22.26 | simonrvn | looks like MAX_INT to me... |
| 10:22.29 | man_in_ltop | at this point, i have to ask: can anyone help me with idmapd with nfs4? :) |
| 10:22.45 | man_in_ltop | didn't think of that .. |
| 10:22.52 | simonrvn | don't you need working kerberos with v4? |
| 10:23.01 | man_in_ltop | nfi |
| 10:23.16 | satish | zyga in resolv.conf i have just one line which says nameserver 192.168.0.11 |
| 10:23.23 | rob789 | I've also got a problem with network-manager, it seems. |
| 10:23.25 | man_in_ltop | according to the howtos i've read, it's optional |
| 10:23.36 | zyga | satish, if you use gnome network manager don't touch either interfaces or resolv.conf |
| 10:23.38 | simonrvn | ok |
| 10:23.47 | man_in_ltop | simonrvn, and fyi, it's MAX_INT - 1 |
| 10:24.00 | man_in_ltop | which is even more exciting |
| 10:24.03 | rob789 | since upgrading from stable to testing, about once a day it connects the ethernet (cable), although that connection is set to auto reconnect. |
| 10:24.42 | rob789 | You can see the syslog on http://euve10195.vserver.de/~robert/syslog |
| 10:25.52 | rob789 | at 11:06:14 it happens: after obtaining a (new=old) ip address via dhcp the network-manager decides to "Marking connection 'Auto eth0' invalid because IP configuration expired. " |
| 10:25.53 | man_in_ltop | simonrvn, i can also see uid => username mappings happening in the server log |
| 10:26.18 | rob789 | any idea_ |
| 10:26.26 | rob789 | ? |
| 10:26.54 | satish | zyga i have somethin called network connections window is that the program you are talking about? |
| 10:27.29 | zyga | satish, yes |
| 10:27.39 | zyga | satish, note I can never be 100% sure, I use different locale |
| 10:28.05 | jnewt | is there a way to easily share a directory over the internet with samba? |
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| 10:28.35 | simonrvn | man_in_ltop: ty for info |
| 10:28.41 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 10:28.45 | robert_ | is there a way to turn off the stupid hijacking of /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 10:28.47 | zyga | jnewt, samba is not designed for internet |
| 10:29.04 | man_in_ltop | simonrvn, it's always the same uid/gid on client regardless of what it is on server |
| 10:29.28 | zyga | robert_, yes, reconfigure your network interface to provide static DNS server or use interfaces(5) and network manager will not interfere |
| 10:29.40 | jnewt | zyga: yeah, but i've been mucking about with sftp and it just doesn't work the way I want and am looking for alternatives. |
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| 10:29.56 | robert_ | oh wow. |
| 10:29.58 | robert_ | sweet. |
| 10:30.14 | simonrvn | well, good luck with that.. i need to sleep |
| 10:30.22 | zyga | jnewt, sorry then, I'd recommend sftp as it actually works best for this but if you have some issues with that I don't know of any good alternatives |
| 10:30.43 | satish | zyga, can u help me get internet through interfaces methiod itself? |
| 10:31.11 | zyga | satish, the actual configuration is quite easy (read the man page first) but your real problem is the proxy you have to use |
| 10:31.14 | jnewt | yeah, i can't jail a user to their directory, i have to jail them to the directory above. that's my issue. it just doesn't work nicely with multiple users. |
| 10:31.37 | zyga | jnewt, you can jail the user anyway you want, you can configure that |
| 10:31.49 | zyga | jnewt, depending on the implementation you use |
| 10:32.03 | zyga | jnewt, note there is also ftp |
| 10:32.11 | zyga | (which is horribly insecure by default) |
| 10:32.24 | satish | zyga, so how do i configure it to use proxy... i have already installed network manager gnome but i used dpkg command not a diredct install, are u getting? |
| 10:32.49 | zyga | satish, there are no global proxy settings in linux world, most of the time settings http_proxy to something works but it's not universal |
| 10:32.49 | jnewt | no, you can't, the directory you jail them to has to have root write access and only root can write to it. you have to then put the user's directories within that, so they are not jailed to "their directory" unless you know how to do it. |
| 10:32.54 | robert_ | interfaces(5) doesn't seem to give me dns options, though. |
| 10:32.58 | jnewt | zyga^ |
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| 10:33.23 | zyga | satish, the best I can recommend now is to use the connection you have and copy the settings from windows so that firefox works (and so that you know the settings are correct) |
| 10:33.48 | satish | i already tried that it does not seem to work.. |
| 10:33.58 | Spida | syslog-ng from lenny had the name and pid of the process causing the log-message in each log-message, how do I get this behaviour in squeeze, too? |
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| 10:34.26 | zyga | robert_, if you use interfaces to manage your network then you can manually edit the resolv.conf file, there are hooks that can do that from interfaces, I just don't remember the syntax, they are documented in another man page |
| 10:34.33 | satish | zyga in windows we have something called my network places where we go and configure, where is such a thing in debian? |
| 10:34.40 | zyga | satish, I'm sorry then, that's the step you have to solve first |
| 10:34.57 | robert_ | zyga: ah, I see. okay. |
| 10:35.13 | zyga | satish, that's not it, network places is windows local area networking, you want to check the network settings in the control panel to check proxy settings first |
| 10:35.22 | zyga | jnewt, which sftp server are you using |
| 10:35.39 | nevyn | satish: network places and network settings are very different things |
| 10:35.49 | jnewt | open_ssh |
| 10:36.07 | nevyn | the equivilent to network places is kinda a function of nautilus/blah the equivilent to network configuration is networkmanager |
| 10:36.07 | zyga | jnewt, you can also use sftp service via ssh |
| 10:36.16 | zyga | jnewt, I'm not 100% sure but I think it has a chroot option |
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| 10:36.52 | jnewt | zyga: yes, it does, but it has the weird issue with not being able to chroot to a directory you can use. |
| 10:37.04 | zyga | robert_, you may also want to check resolvconf package, it's designed to help AFAIR but I did not use it for years |
| 10:37.38 | zyga | jnewt, I'd recommend proftpd, it's a nice ftp+secureftp server with loads of configuration options |
| 10:37.48 | man_in_ltop | simonrvn, thanks anyway. you've been more courteous than everyone else i've asked about this (especially #nfs) |
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| 10:38.09 | zyga | jnewt, I'm not sure what you are trying to do so it might not be appropriate but I'm sure you can jail (or not) your real or virtual uses anyway you like with proftpd |
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| 10:38.24 | robert_ | I see. |
| 10:38.26 | jnewt | zyga: i'll look into it, thanks |
| 10:38.29 | zyga | needs to get back to work |
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| 10:39.26 | zyga | satish, I would also recommend ubuntu if you are a first time user, it's based on debian, some people find it more user friendly, it would not resolve your proxy issues out of the box but I find it more comfortable to use |
| 10:39.34 | roellen | Hi, running 'testing'. After a recent upgrade, cannot delete file. System says "The trash has reached its max size. Clean up trash manually." A check of Trash folder shows it is empty. |
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| 10:40.57 | satish | zyga i have a wifi network also can u help me get connected to that? |
| 10:41.42 | zyga | satish, not at this time, sorry, if your wifi network also requires a proxy then you really need to fix that first, otherwise you should just click on the network manager icon, select the access point you wish to use and provide the password, it should just work |
| 10:42.37 | satish | i never get those options, how does network manager search for available wifi networks? |
| 10:42.56 | zyga | satish, it "finds them" over the radio |
| 10:43.05 | zyga | satish, the technical bits would not help here I think |
| 10:43.22 | zyga | satish, I'm sorry I really cannot help you more at this time |
| 10:43.39 | zyga | satish, and also, I don't run debian daily so I might miss something because ubuntu UI is different |
| 10:43.42 | satish | k zyga thanks for your help :) |
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| 10:43.51 | zyga | satish, I only chroot for debian development, sorry |
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| 10:47.19 | satish | hey can anybody help me with network configuration on debian? |
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| 10:47.39 | satish | i am able to ping but cant use internet on a browser.. |
| 10:47.41 | AthomIk | hello |
| 10:47.46 | AthomIk | hello babilen |
| 10:48.30 | cusco | satish: what browser? |
| 10:48.32 | zyga | satish, (ask someone to show you proxy settings in your windows box) |
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| 10:48.47 | zyga | satish, without knowing those settings first you will not get any progress in debian side |
| 10:49.29 | satish | zyga, i have proxy settings in windows and i have entered them in debian still it does not work.. :( |
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| 10:49.45 | zyga | satish, could you please tell us what those settings are? |
| 10:49.45 | satish | cusco, its iceweasel |
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| 10:50.24 | dr_traktor | I'm told to install Qt but I don't know what the name of the package is. apt-get install qt can't locate anything. |
| 10:50.33 | cusco | can debian ping the proxy host? |
| 10:50.42 | cusco | is that a vm? |
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| 10:51.01 | cusco | dr_traktor: what software is requiring qt? |
| 10:51.07 | zyga | dr_traktor, try running aptitude and searching (the keystroke for that is /) for qt, you will find many packages |
| 10:51.15 | satish | cusco, yes debian can ping the proxy host :) |
| 10:51.26 | AthomIk | satish: you ping the on ip or on dns name ? |
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| 10:51.45 | satish | AthomIk, on ip.. |
| 10:51.55 | cusco | ow.. |
| 10:51.58 | dr_traktor | cusco: Calibre, and a bunch of other dependencies listed by name that's not the one I can tell aptitude to download. |
| 10:52.01 | AthomIk | satish: can you ping on dns name |
| 10:52.12 | dr_traktor | zyga: yeah i tried not much luck with other packages |
| 10:52.31 | zyga | dr_traktor, qt is packaged for debian, I'm not sure what you want to get exactly |
| 10:52.36 | cusco | dr_traktor: what is the error when you try and rrun the software? |
| 10:52.51 | cusco | you probably want libqtgui4 |
| 10:52.54 | cusco | not sure tho |
| 10:52.58 | dr_traktor | cusco: No module named PyQt4.QtCore |
| 10:53.03 | cusco | oh |
| 10:53.05 | dr_traktor | Now python-qt4 is installed. |
| 10:53.06 | zyga | :-) |
| 10:53.08 | cusco | that is libqtcore4 |
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| 10:53.14 | satish | AthomIk, i can ping on dns ip address |
| 10:53.14 | cusco | and python qt bindings |
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| 10:53.59 | cusco | dr_traktor: apt-get install python-qt4 libqt4-core |
| 10:54.07 | satish | zyga my htttp proxy is 192.168.0.1 and port is 8080 |
| 10:54.12 | cusco | satish: can you ping a dns name? |
| 10:54.14 | cusco | like google.com |
| 10:54.15 | cusco | ? |
| 10:54.16 | AthomIk | satish try w3m google.com in terminal |
| 10:54.19 | zyga | satish, please try doing this |
| 10:54.26 | AthomIk | is you iceweasel config.... |
| 10:54.30 | zyga | satish, open a terminal (altr+ctrl+t) |
| 10:54.32 | dr_traktor | cuso: still the same error message |
| 10:54.35 | satish | cusco yes i can ping google.com |
| 10:54.44 | dr_traktor | python-qt4 is already the newest version. |
| 10:54.44 | dr_traktor | libqt4-core is already the newest version. |
| 10:54.51 | zyga | satish, type: export http_proxy=http://192.168.0.1:8080/ |
| 10:55.07 | zyga | satish, then type: sensible-browser |
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| 10:55.18 | zyga | satish, that should launch the debranded firefox for you |
| 10:55.31 | zyga | satish, I'm not sure it will work though, I never tried that |
| 10:55.32 | satish | AthomIk, w3m google.com worked!!!!! ihave the webpage :) |
| 10:55.47 | cusco | without exporting proxy?? |
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| 10:56.05 | AthomIk | i go back |
| 10:56.12 | satish | cusco, i have google.com in front of me, text only version thou.. |
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| 10:56.42 | cusco | did you set any proxy anywhere other rhan iceweasel? |
| 10:56.42 | satish | AthomIk, why does it not work in normal browser? |
| 10:57.13 | satish | cusco yes i did, in preferences network proxy.. |
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| 10:58.01 | cusco | can you: apt-get update ?? |
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| 10:58.53 | satish | cusco i can get apt-get update! |
| 10:59.13 | cusco | go in iceweasel network proxy settings and tell it to use system proxy |
| 10:59.15 | cusco | settings |
| 10:59.33 | zafy | is there a iceweasel / firefox backport to lenny for 3.6 ? |
| 11:00.13 | satish | cusco its working! |
| 11:00.19 | cusco | cool |
| 11:00.29 | satish | cusco, i got google homepage. what wat the problem? |
| 11:00.52 | cusco | dunno, a typo in your proxy settings? |
| 11:00.59 | cusco | (in iceweasel) |
| 11:01.26 | satish | cusco i had tried use system proxy settings earlier but it didnt work... |
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| 11:03.47 | nomicon | How can I be able to watch flashvideos in Firefox without crashing my firefox session? |
| 11:03.53 | satish | cusco i want network manager gnome whats the command to install it? |
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| 11:05.05 | satish | AthomIk, i want to connect to internet using wifi can u help me, and thanks for your earlier help it worked... |
| 11:05.30 | satish | cusco thanks for your help and can u help me connect to internet using wifi network? |
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| 11:07.28 | nomicon | anyone? |
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| 11:10.46 | satish | thanks zyga cusco AthomIk |
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| 11:13.15 | nomicon | Is anyone else experiencing problems playing flashvideos from example youtube? |
| 11:13.24 | nomicon | firefox crashes/hangs after the video is finished |
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| 11:18.30 | superjames | nomicon, linux flash was coded by a bunch of chimpanzees |
| 11:19.01 | Sos`` | haha that is so true |
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| 11:21.35 | babilen | nomicon: which version of the flashplayer and iceweasel do you experience this with (about:plugins) ? |
| 11:21.41 | rdz | hi all. what are the correct 'ar' options to create a .deb file from the the control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz and debian-binary files? |
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| 11:23.37 | ansgar | rdz: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 11:24.24 | rdz | ansgar, does it matter? |
| 11:24.35 | dr_traktor | How do I get "No module named PyQt4.QtCore" ImportError when both python-qt4 and libqt4-core are installed? |
| 11:25.32 | ansgar | rdz: Yes. ar is not the right tool to create .deb files. |
| 11:26.14 | rdz | ansgar, i have to correct a debian package, that is only available in binary form |
| 11:26.28 | rdz | ansgar, anyway... i already found the correct options: -r |
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| 11:29.30 | babilen | dr_traktor: Can you run 'python -c "import PyQt4.QtCore"' and report the results? Does it throw an exception? |
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| 11:29.58 | ansgar | rdz: There is "dpkg --build" as well. |
| 11:30.03 | dr_traktor | babilen: It says: 'ImportError: No module named PyQt4.QtCore' |
| 11:30.05 | babilen | dr_traktor: Err, you surely mean "Why do I get ..." not "How do I get" or? |
| 11:30.17 | dr_traktor | babilen: Yes thats what I meant, sorry. |
| 11:30.34 | babilen | dr_traktor: What does "python --version" and "which python" return? |
| 11:31.01 | dr_traktor | babilen: Python 2.6.6, /usr/bin/python |
| 11:31.04 | dr_traktor | Seems old. |
| 11:31.44 | dr_traktor | Well apt says its the newest version. |
| 11:32.00 | dr_traktor | Maybe it has something to do with aptitude update throwing so many 404 errors. |
| 11:32.08 | rdz | ansgar, ah ok.. i didn't know that this could work as well for creating a deb (without compiling). thanks |
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| 11:32.39 | babilen | dr_traktor: Not really. Hmm, that is weird. I just tested it on my system and it works without a problem. I guess 'python -c "import PyQt4"' results in an equal ImportError, does it? |
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| 11:33.06 | babilen | dr_traktor: What is the output of "dpkg -l python-qt4" ? (last line) |
| 11:33.10 | dr_traktor | babilen: Yes it does. |
| 11:33.29 | dr_traktor | ii python-qt4 4.7.3-1+b1 Python bindings for Qt4 |
| 11:34.31 | babilen | dr_traktor: ls /usr/lib/pyshared/python2.6/PyQt4/QtCore.so ? (file not found?) |
| 11:34.50 | dr_traktor | babilen: No, its there. |
| 11:35.07 | dr_traktor | Can this have anything to do with ia32 package? |
| 11:35.17 | babilen | dr_traktor: python -c "import sys; print sys.path" ? |
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| 11:35.29 | babilen | dr_traktor: Why do you think it does? Which ia32 package? |
| 11:35.29 | dr_traktor | ['', '/usr/lib/python2.6', '/usr/lib/python2.6/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-old', '/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/PIL', '/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6', '/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/gtk-2.0'] |
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| 11:35.42 | dr_traktor | babilen: I don't know, I just apt-get installed ia32 |
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| 11:35.54 | dr_traktor | ia32-libs |
| 11:36.26 | babilen | Shouldn't be a problem |
| 11:36.28 | Simon14 | Is it possible to restrict access to my LAN but allow internet access? |
| 11:37.00 | dr_traktor | babilen: Isn't python 2.6 old? |
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| 11:37.15 | wrksx | hi all ! |
| 11:37.21 | babilen | dr_traktor: Could you run 'python -c "import PyQt4.QtCore"' and paste the complete output to paste.debian.net? |
| 11:37.22 | wrksx | how long will be lenny supported ? |
| 11:37.53 | babilen | dr_traktor: It is not. 2.7.1 is the newest release, but py2.6 is not old at all. |
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| 11:38.09 | dr_traktor | babilen: That just produces 2 lines with a single valuable line, are you sure? |
| 11:38.22 | dr_traktor | babilen: Saying the same thing we've seen. |
| 11:38.25 | babilen | wrksx: for another 10/11 months or until wheezy is released. whatever happens earlier :) (the former probably) |
| 11:38.33 | babilen | dr_traktor: Ok. |
| 11:38.38 | wrksx | babilen, ok thanks |
| 11:38.43 | babilen | dr_traktor: No, I don't need to see it then. |
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| 11:39.04 | dr_traktor | babilen: The problem you mean. Well I've read a disclaimer that python >= 2.7 should be installed. |
| 11:39.16 | dr_traktor | babilen: But I get all 404 errors when doing apt-get update. |
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| 11:39.52 | wrksx | my hoster only provide etch, shall I go Etch->Lenny->Squeeze or Etch->Squeeze ? maybe stupid question Idk.. :/ |
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| 11:40.36 | kharloss | hi. i have an issue after upgrading my sistem ( debian) . take a look at error details http://pastebin.com/Rgzb5Nw8 ; i really apreciate for any help |
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| 11:40.56 | babilen | dr_traktor: That are different errors (and worth working on) Which disclaimer are you talking about? And you might want to change your sources.list to point to existing and working mirrors. |
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| 11:41.19 | Sm0ke0ut | kharloss you're using removed PHP functions |
| 11:41.24 | Sm0ke0ut | eregi is "replaced" with preg_ |
| 11:41.46 | babilen | dr_traktor: /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4/__init__.pyc is there too I guess? |
| 11:41.48 | dr_traktor | babilen: A disclaimer on the site of calibre. A package I'm trying to use, that's whats complaining about pyqt4 |
| 11:42.21 | babilen | dr_traktor: python -c "import PyQt4.QtCore" should work regardless of Calibre. |
| 11:42.33 | dr_traktor | babilen: /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4/__init__.pyc: No such file or directory |
| 11:42.41 | AthomIk | with make-kpkg cmd, how i can have -j 8 option for compil on 4 cpu |
| 11:42.41 | dr_traktor | babilen: I know that's why I didnt bring it up so far. |
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| 11:42.57 | babilen | dr_traktor: What about __init__.py ? (remove the 'c' in the end) |
| 11:42.57 | kharloss | Sm0ke0ut. how can i manage this ? i`m a noob |
| 11:43.13 | dr_traktor | babilen: Same thing. |
| 11:43.47 | Sm0ke0ut | kharloss, try #php |
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| 11:44.26 | sylar | since I upgraded to squeeze I am getting these crushes with - "EXT3-FS error (device sda1): ext3_find_entry: reading directory |
| 11:44.39 | sylar | anyone has a clue? |
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| 11:46.12 | babilen | dr_traktor: Do you have /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4 at all? |
| 11:46.41 | wrksx | my hoster only provide etch, shall I go Etch->Lenny->Squeeze or Etch->Squeeze ? maybe stupid question Idk.. :/ |
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| 11:47.16 | dr_traktor | babilen: Yes, thats the content of it http://paste.debian.net/110352/ |
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| 11:49.11 | functor | So anyone know the option in OpenSSH to enable bindind remote-forwarding so that non-localhost can see it? |
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| 11:50.07 | babilen | dr_traktor: Could you run "ls -l /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4" â paste.debian.net ? |
| 11:50.44 | ^self^ | is the latest updated version of clamd available supposed to be 0.96.5? I'm not sure if i've got my squeeze-updates repo set up properly, and 0.97 should supposedly have been released |
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| 11:51.00 | babilen | wrksx: You definitely don't want to skip lenny. So do etchâlennyâsqueeze! Follow their respective release notes. |
| 11:51.26 | dr_traktor | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/110353/ |
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| 11:51.31 | babilen | dr_traktor: Just out of curiosity: Does "python2.5 -c 'import PyQt4'" work? |
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| 11:51.44 | Slie | Anyone use a theme manager or window decorator for squeeze? |
| 11:51.48 | wrksx | babilen, ok thanks. One last: is it encouraged to move to squeeze now or to wait for a better stability ? |
| 11:51.54 | dr_traktor | babilen: python2.5: command not found |
| 11:52.03 | wrksx | babilen, this will be my first real migration |
| 11:52.50 | babilen | dr_traktor: ah, ok. |
| 11:53.17 | babilen | wrksx: Squeeze has been released as stable. It wouldn't have been released if migration was a bad idea. |
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| 11:54.01 | wrksx | babilen, ok thanks a lot ! |
| 11:54.37 | babilen | dr_traktor: /usr/bin/python2.6 -c "import PyQt4" same thing? What does "ls -l /usr/local/lib/Python*" give you? |
| 11:55.01 | babilen | dr_traktor: I can't quite wrap my head around this :-\ |
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| 11:55.30 | dr_traktor | babilen: Yes, the same. I can understand. |
| 11:56.14 | Slie | So everyone just used the default? |
| 11:56.28 | babilen | dr_traktor: Could you purge python-qt4 and libqt4-core and run "aptitude install python-qt4" and paste its output? |
| 11:56.44 | dr_traktor | yes |
| 11:57.09 | babilen | dr_traktor: Please provide the output of the two commands I asked about earlier too. (before the purge) |
| 11:57.39 | wrksx | is C# as hard typed as JAVA ? |
| 11:57.44 | wrksx | oops |
| 11:57.52 | wrksx | sorry for the polution, wrong chan |
| 11:58.01 | babilen | wrksx: obviously ;) |
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| 11:58.21 | dr_traktor | babilen: ImportError: No module named PyQt4; cannot access /usr/local/lib/Python*: No such file or directory |
| 11:58.42 | babilen | dr_traktor: echo $PYTHONPATH ? |
| 11:59.05 | dr_traktor | babilen: It responds with a blank line. |
| 11:59.21 | babilen | dr_traktor: Ah, sorry. Should have been /usr/local/lib/python* ;) |
| 11:59.54 | babilen | dr_traktor: do the purge/install dance afterwards. |
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| 11:59.57 | dr_traktor | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/110354/ |
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| 12:00.29 | babilen | dr_traktor: hehe, just /usr/local/lib/python*/* then .... |
| 12:00.30 | Slie | So people just look at ugly screens... |
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| 12:01.14 | dr_traktor | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/110355/ but python-qt4 is purged at this point |
| 12:01.40 | babilen | Slie: I have no idea what you are talking about. Which desktop environment? What is a "theme-manager" or "window decorator" -- These things are typically handled by your desktop environment/window manager. |
| 12:02.17 | babilen | dr_traktor: Ok, looks good. You might want to consider to remove the /usr/local/lib/python* directories. (they are empty after all) |
| 12:03.18 | Slie | Okay, well does everyone here just use the default Desktop environment? Or do you change it and if so what |
| 12:04.08 | dr_traktor | babilen: I did the purgin now I have this when trying to install http://paste.debian.net/110356/ |
| 12:04.09 | babilen | dr_traktor: You might also want to consider fixing your sources.list, running "aptitude update" before the reinstallation. |
| 12:04.40 | babilen | dr_traktor: What was the command you executed? |
| 12:04.48 | dr_traktor | babilen: Yes about that. I dont know what stuff do I have to write after deb ftp.hu.debian.org/debian/ |
| 12:05.00 | dr_traktor | because that alone is not enough to be parseable |
| 12:05.06 | babilen | !tell dr_traktor about sources.list |
| 12:05.16 | dr_traktor | babilen: sudo apt-get install python python-qt4 |
| 12:05.57 | dr_traktor | !tell dr_traktor about sources.list |
| 12:05.59 | babilen | dr_traktor: One second. :) |
| 12:06.03 | babilen | dr_traktor: dpkg is gone |
| 12:07.03 | babilen | dr_traktor: One second please :) |
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| 12:07.15 | dr_traktor | babilen: I have all day. |
| 12:07.33 | dr_traktor | babilen: Really appreciating the help. |
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| 12:07.36 | streuner_ | dselect sources.list |
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| 12:08.02 | streuner_ | hm, dselect is gone too |
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| 12:08.28 | babilen | streuner_: 'apt' is there but gives woody information :) |
| 12:08.48 | streuner_ | babilen: dpkg is in OFTC... |
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| 12:09.18 | streuner_ | <dpkg> The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <squeeze updates> <squeeze security> and "man sources.list". |
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| 12:09.40 | dr_traktor | babilen: Looks like I managed to update aptitude from the mirror I mentioned. |
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| 12:11.03 | dr_traktor | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/110357/ |
| 12:11.04 | babilen | dr_traktor: Could you paste your sources.list -- Just to make sure? |
| 12:11.22 | dr_traktor | babilen: deb ftp://ftp.hu.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
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| 12:11.27 | dr_traktor | thats the only line it contains now |
| 12:11.38 | man_in_ltop | why ftp? |
| 12:11.44 | bolt | connecting with winscp to my debian server, it does not enable utf-8 for filenames. its manual says that when utf-8 is set to "auto", it will use it for sftp protocol version >=4. how can i find out which sftp protocol my server supports? |
| 12:11.46 | bolt | i can enable it manually, and utf-8 filenames show up fine. but by default winscp will store files which names look messed up on the local system |
| 12:11.50 | babilen | dr_traktor: You definitely want "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main" in there too |
| 12:12.01 | dr_traktor | babilen: I see. |
| 12:12.21 | babilen | dr_traktor: And yes, you could replace "ftp" with "http" as in the factoid mentioned by streuner_ above |
| 12:12.35 | dr_traktor | babilen: Oh I see. |
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| 12:12.47 | babilen | dr_traktor: run "aptitude update" afterwards. :) |
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| 12:13.18 | AthomIk | babilen: for my drivers problems on nvidia, i remove the proprio nividia drivers and aptitude the dkms package |
| 12:13.24 | dr_traktor | babilen: I recommend the result of installing python again http://paste.debian.net/110357/ |
| 12:13.31 | babilen | !tell AthomIk about nvidia dkms |
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| 12:13.42 | babilen | grmmlsblargsfuck |
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| 12:14.02 | streuner_ | babilen: old habits die hard :-P |
| 12:14.18 | dr_traktor | babilen: And python -c "import PyQt4.QtCore" runs without error now. |
| 12:14.29 | babilen | AthomIk: Yes, you want to do that. Let's wait for the bot to be back again. It has this great one-liner to install and configure nvidia dkms packages. |
| 12:14.57 | babilen | dr_traktor: Wonderful. I would have been really surprised if not. :) Hooray! |
| 12:14.59 | AthomIk | babilen: ok |
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| 12:15.29 | babilen | time for a fag and cappuccino :) |
| 12:15.41 | dr_traktor | babilen: My problems with calibre are also gone. Thank you so much for your valuable help. |
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| 12:15.50 | AthomIk | babilen: not really see my 430 GT in dkms package suppose is the nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-dkms |
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| 12:17.10 | babilen | AthomIk: Well, there is a factoid for that as well. It basically boils down to installing the package you mentioned and creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf with the required section in there. |
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| 12:17.29 | streuner_ | AthomIk: dpkg> For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia |
| 12:17.29 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.52 | babilen | dr_traktor: You are most welcome. I'll start with the "installation problems" next time before trying to hunt down the "Why is the module not loaded"-path :) |
| 12:18.11 | dr_traktor | Good idea :) |
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| 12:20.27 | AthomIk | thk babilen streuner_ , i use a custom kernel, is a problem ? |
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| 12:22.11 | streuner_ | AthomIk: no idea, you are able to install a default kernel if needed |
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| 12:23.19 | streuner_ | AthomIk: at least you dont need to install the headers |
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| 12:29.00 | AthomIk | streuner_: with my actual config i have installed nvidia drivers, and it have make module, i think no problem with debian package, i see this this WE |
| 12:29.02 | babilen | AthomIk: Which raises the question why you use a custom kernel? Aren't the Debian stock ones good enough? |
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| 12:29.51 | AthomIk | babilen: kernel < 2.6.33 haven't fermi option for the sound via HDMI, i use 2 screens and have sound on tv |
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| 12:30.36 | babilen | AthomIk: You can easily install a Debian stock kernel from sid/experimental (.37/.38) -- We talked about this before? Did you use make-kpkg to compile your kernel? |
| 12:30.48 | tdrusk | Hi guys. Running KDE in squeeze. All packages are straight from squeeze repos. Trying to find a way to browse for windows network printers. KDE doesn't allow this(to my knowledge), but I remembered Gnome did, so I installed system-config-printer. The browse button is unclickable. I figure I am missing a package somewhere(I have samba installed). Any pointers? |
| 12:31.10 | AthomIk | babilen: yes i have use debian methode with make-kpkg to compile |
| 12:31.22 | babilen | wonderful, pray continue :) |
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| 12:34.06 | jalal | exit |
| 12:34.07 | jalal | exit |
| 12:34.23 | simonrvn | you need a / |
| 12:34.33 | wrksx | =) |
| 12:34.36 | jalal | simonrvn: Oh sorry. |
| 12:34.55 | wrksx | ls |
| 12:34.57 | wrksx | ls |
| 12:34.58 | simonrvn | heh np |
| 12:35.12 | babilen | wrksx: try that in a shell :) |
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| 12:42.51 | g00se | Is this scenario possible? 1. install apt-cacher-ng on lenny box 2. fill it with squeeze debs 3. serve up squeeze packages for new boxes from lenny box |
| 12:44.44 | doubleukay | hi guys, is there anywhere I can download a lenny netinst iso? |
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| 12:45.16 | flo` | hi |
| 12:45.53 | flo` | i have the problem that since the upgrade to squeeze disk access is flushed immediately back to the disk, not after some seconds as in lenny |
| 12:46.56 | flo` | i tried another distro using the same kernel as squeeze, and it works like i want (no immediate flushes); the only difference i can see is that squeeze is using "data=writeback", while the other distro is using "data=ordered" in their mount options (cat /proc/mounts) |
| 12:47.17 | flo` | however, i am unable to set that mount option in debian... how can i set the option? |
| 12:48.01 | flo` | mount / -o remount,data=ordered doesn't help. the same with /dev/mapper/my-root-volume also doesn't help. i always get "mount: / not mounted already, or bad option" |
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| 12:51.50 | tdrusk | doubleukay: good question. looking now... |
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| 12:52.15 | doubleukay | tdrusk: I managed to find it from googling debian-508-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 12:52.54 | doubleukay | but can't find an official mirror with it :\ |
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| 12:57.27 | simonrvn | flo`: edit /etc/fstab |
| 12:57.48 | flo` | simonrvn, i have no such line in my fstab, because / is mounted via the initramfs |
| 12:59.03 | simonrvn | UUID=0b809a2d-fc6a-4864-b03a-5aa0de1147bc / ext4 defaults,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1 0 1 |
| 12:59.17 | ethanol | anyone here use a software package to make /var/log content visually, erm.. not sure what the correct word is in english :\ |
| 12:59.25 | simonrvn | that's this one here, fyi |
| 12:59.31 | ethanol | but basically summarize/categorize/etc |
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| 12:59.39 | flo` | simonrvn, i have no such line in my fstab. |
| 13:00.01 | flo` | simonrvn, the rootfs is given to the kernel via kernel parameter, then mounted by the initramfs |
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| 13:00.31 | simonrvn | what kind of system is that? |
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| 13:02.56 | laptopz | hmm seems that aide project isnt that popular since they dont have a channel |
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| 13:03.19 | simonrvn | that means nothing |
| 13:03.44 | flo` | simonrvn, what do you mean? |
| 13:04.05 | superlinux | hi. during the booting up stage of my debian, the system waits too long somewhere at the "mounting local partitions" step. To proceed in booting the PC, I have to press Ctl+C. how can I know what's going on? i know I have to look in the logs, but what exactly i must be looking for? |
| 13:04.28 | simonrvn | flo`: what i asked you? why do you have part of your fstab in your initramfs? |
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| 13:05.11 | flo` | simonrvn, well, i dunno, this was debian's default setup? |
| 13:05.24 | flo` | simonrvn, at least when / lies on a lvm volume |
| 13:06.31 | nsadmin | normally a / mount would show up in fstab |
| 13:06.39 | simonrvn | ugh, lvm root :( |
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| 13:07.25 | nsadmin | unfortunately it's what's happening |
| 13:08.00 | nsadmin | sometimes not easy to avoid |
| 13:08.19 | flo` | i'm in a distro-hopping phase, so root on lvm is really really useful |
| 13:08.23 | simonrvn | i try to avoid lvm/raid / if i can at all |
| 13:08.39 | flo` | and it's also really cool for backups. snapshot -> back the snapshot up -> remove it again |
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| 13:10.21 | nsadmin | as long as you have rescue media that can mount your /, you're probably fine |
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| 13:17.06 | superlinux | allo?! |
| 13:17.17 | tarzeau | olla |
| 13:17.26 | nsadmin | loal |
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| 13:17.32 | superlinux | hi. during the booting up stage of my debian, the system waits too long somewhere at the "mounting local partitions" step. To proceed in booting the PC, I have to press Ctl+C. how can I know what's going on? i know I have to look in the logs, but what exactly i must be looking for? |
| 13:17.58 | nsadmin | (by responding I don't guarantee to respond again.) |
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| 13:18.58 | nsadmin | when you're pressing ctrl C, you must be seeing other lines indicative of status |
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| 13:21.47 | fbs | superlinux: maybe a floppy drive setting in the bios that haxzors ? |
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| 13:22.10 | superlinux | maybe |
| 13:22.53 | superlinux | i'll disable the floppy anyway. I don't use it already |
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| 13:24.49 | superlinux | fbs, what else you might shed a light on? |
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| 13:26.12 | fbs | maybe fsck all the partitions |
| 13:26.26 | homie | wtf, why do the dpmi, and blacking the screen functions of enery-saving settings never really do what they are supposed to do ? and why does for example playing a video not hinder it from blacking the screen actually ? |
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| 13:26.31 | fbs | sudo touch /forcefsck when booted |
| 13:27.40 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:27.56 | nsadmin | superlinux: the light to be shed is yours... what do you see when you ctrl-c? |
| 13:28.27 | nsadmin | exact text would be helpful |
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| 13:29.38 | superlinux | there was a message coming just before I press the Ctl+C. but I can't remember what is't. but i think it's a kernel message |
| 13:30.28 | superlinux | somthing similar to a multiple of "foo=blah foo2=blah2 ..etc" |
| 13:31.15 | superlinux | and it takes longer to enter Gnome after pressing the Ctl+C |
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| 13:31.58 | superlinux | nsadmin, but I know for sure that these messages are NOT bad disk messages |
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| 13:34.46 | superlinux | it happened after I wanted to add the required packages to speed up the booting process. my repositories are set now to squeeze. but i just updated the boot speeding packages only. and the problem arouse. |
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| 13:40.41 | b0o-supermario | Hi guys |
| 13:41.07 | b0o-supermario | Will kfreebsd replace gpl'd crap with bsd licensed stuff? |
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| 13:41.34 | daemonkeeper | Only the GPL crap kernel. |
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| 13:41.42 | b0o-supermario | :( |
| 13:41.44 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: you're free to replace the rest |
| 13:42.02 | b0o-supermario | I hate stallmanism |
| 13:42.13 | metamurks | then use freebsd ... ;) |
| 13:42.18 | daemonkeeper | Get your BSD and be happy. |
| 13:42.22 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: why? |
| 13:42.25 | Bushmills | seems you're on one line with microsoft - they do too |
| 13:42.54 | b0o-supermario | Remember: if there's no proprietary, there's no intel, no google, no windows, no apple, no technology. |
| 13:43.09 | b0o-supermario | I am not microsoftish |
| 13:43.29 | b0o-supermario | But i am fan of beastie, apple and ms |
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| 13:43.43 | tarzeau | i'm a fan of NeXT |
| 13:43.44 | Bushmills | oh. closed source hardware :( |
| 13:43.50 | daemonkeeper | I can't see how this is related to Debian. |
| 13:43.59 | daemonkeeper | And therefore on-topic in #debian. |
| 13:43.59 | b0o-supermario | You want open source in everything? |
| 13:44.09 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: i wouldn't mind the plans of my fridge |
| 13:44.15 | tarzeau | and my car |
| 13:44.22 | b0o-supermario | You can steal one's research if it's free |
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| 13:45.11 | Phantom_Hoover | What do I do if I want the newest version of Chromium before the package maintainers update it/ |
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| 13:45.26 | tarzeau | Phantom_Hoover: get it yourself and make your own package? |
| 13:45.37 | b0o-supermario | You should understand than proprietary and open source should help each other to develop technology, they shouldn't dump each other... |
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| 13:45.56 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: who is dumping who? |
| 13:45.58 | Phantom_Hoover | b0o-supermario, ..what. |
| 13:46.15 | Phantom_Hoover | tarzeau, so just download the source, do the standard make process, then what? |
| 13:46.15 | b0o-supermario | Open source is dumping proprietary |
| 13:46.26 | tarzeau | Phantom_Hoover: no you do the debian packaging |
| 13:46.38 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: which open source, who exactly? |
| 13:46.54 | b0o-supermario | Stallman |
| 13:46.55 | Phantom_Hoover | tarzeau, yes, I understand, but what does that entail? |
| 13:47.09 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: i like free software, and i'm not dmping proprietary, not at all. i do have some excellent proprietary hardware (including software/firmware) that i use and like |
| 13:47.14 | Phantom_Hoover | b0o-supermario, yes, because Stallman represents the views of the ENTIRE OPEN-SOURCE MOVEMENT. |
| 13:47.22 | tarzeau | Phantom_Hoover: get the source, do the debian/rules and debuild. then install your package |
| 13:47.24 | b0o-supermario | But i think debian people are good hearted except for gpl'd crappy manual |
| 13:47.29 | Phantom_Hoover | THERE IS NO ROOM FOR DIFFERENCES OF OPINION |
| 13:47.33 | tarzeau | Phantom_Hoover: he doesn't at all. he does free software |
| 13:47.49 | Phantom_Hoover | tarzeau, b0o-supermario's words, not mine. |
| 13:47.51 | b0o-supermario | You all are good |
| 13:47.52 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: quote him, where does he do so? |
| 13:48.12 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: i wouldn't throw all debian people in the same pot. |
| 13:48.25 | b0o-supermario | He does that everywhere |
| 13:48.31 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: where? |
| 13:48.45 | Phantom_Hoover | tarzeau, ah, but we all know that all organisations are monolithic entities with no internal differentiation. |
| 13:48.54 | daemonkeeper | Really folks, let's come back to on-topic discussions. |
| 13:48.54 | b0o-supermario | He says that lgpl is just a nasty strategy openly |
| 13:48.56 | dkr | yes, let's take facetious remarks seriously and extend this absurd conversation |
| 13:49.30 | jjp_ | Errr... Isn't this talk a bit of topic on this channel ? |
| 13:49.36 | jjp_ | off topic |
| 13:49.37 | b0o-supermario | In gpl faq |
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| 13:49.42 | b0o-supermario | Just read it |
| 13:49.49 | daemonkeeper | jjp_: Yup. |
| 13:49.50 | themill | Phantom_Hoover, b0o-supermario: please take this to a /msg or to some other channel like #defocus, please |
| 13:49.52 | b0o-supermario | Ok i'll talk topic stuff |
| 13:49.53 | tarzeau | b0o-supermario: a/s/l? |
| 13:50.00 | b0o-supermario | Private |
| 13:50.34 | tarzeau | don't msg me. the only thing i do with supermario is drown him in the sea, and run him against a wall with the A button, really fast |
| 13:50.44 | simonrvn | !ot |
| 13:50.59 | b0o-supermario | No |
| 13:51.13 | simonrvn | ravenbird: ot |
| 13:51.14 | ravenbird | simonrvn: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 13:54.37 | zealiod | I'm using debian as a passthough server, with NATing, IPTABLES, this works well for a fixed list of MAC addresses. I'd like to be able to authenticate subscribers via a remote RADIUS server. Do I need a RADIUS client on the server, what's the best approach? |
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| 13:55.35 | simonrvn | %ot |
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| 13:57.49 | dselect | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of themill) |
| 13:57.55 | dselect | Hi all! I'm here as a backup for dpkg. My database is readonly so don't try changing factoids. My address character is : |
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| 14:00.44 | jelly | :welcome |
| 14:00.44 | dselect | Thank you, jelly. |
| 14:01.18 | fireba11 | hi, what package is there for monitoring a process and restarting it if it's not running? via pidfile preferrably |
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| 14:02.11 | jelly | fireba11: there's a good number of those. You could try monit |
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| 14:07.45 | warlock | hi |
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| 14:08.19 | warlock | where i can find the sources.list for SID? |
| 14:08.49 | dvs | !iyhtays |
| 14:09.08 | bolt | if you have to ask about that, you don't want sid... |
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| 14:09.53 | warlock | ok |
| 14:09.56 | warlock | thanks |
| 14:10.19 | daemonkeeper | These days especially not |
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| 14:12.55 | fireba11 | jelly: thanks |
| 14:13.04 | gizmore | i have an apache ssl cert that is protected with a passphras.... if i reboot the server, will it hang waiting for the phrase or just skip the apache service after some timeout? |
| 14:13.52 | gunknown | Hi. is it possible to update one specific package to a higher version than in the default repositories? |
| 14:15.31 | gnugr | gunknown: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
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| 14:16.15 | fireba11 | jelly: looks a bit overkill ;-) |
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| 14:17.26 | gunknown | hmm, what is the keyword i have to look for? i dont want the whole system to update but only one package |
| 14:18.14 | gunknown | i guess backports are what i am looking for? |
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| 14:19.15 | gnugr | gunknown: check this repos: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/debian-squeeze-repositories-709694/ |
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| 14:32.06 | gunknown | i updated a backage from the backports. If i remove the backports from the apt sourcelist and update the packagelist, will this cause a downgrade of this package with the next upgrade or any other errors? |
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| 14:33.02 | mah454 | Hello |
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| 14:33.32 | mah454 | How i can share pptp connection (VPN) in my internal LAN ? |
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| 14:37.29 | Sos`` | hey what package has mysqld_safe ? |
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| 14:37.56 | Spida | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=mysqld_safe&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 14:39.41 | Sos`` | thanks! |
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| 14:42.22 | Sos`` | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.24 | Sos`` | i get this |
| 14:42.35 | Sos`` | from dpkg --configure mysql-server-5.0 |
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| 14:42.59 | Tau | hi. i have been using gnome terminal for awhile, however, it initially loads using a small letter then i'm obligated to increase its zoom. how can i make default the letter's size ? |
| 14:43.02 | simonrvn | uh. why do you have libz in /usr/local/lib ? |
| 14:43.10 | Sos`` | i dunno |
| 14:43.24 | simonrvn | Tau: edit the 'profile' |
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| 14:44.05 | Sos`` | haha silly lenny |
| 14:44.18 | Sos`` | it didn't stop mysqld before configuring |
| 14:44.19 | Tau | simonrvn, i tried that but i can't see an option to increase letter's size. |
| 14:44.34 | simonrvn | edit the font |
| 14:44.49 | Tau | simonrvn, neither font style. |
| 14:45.02 | Tau | it is weird. |
| 14:45.24 | simonrvn | "current profile" ? |
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| 14:45.48 | Shi_tware | i wanna sex!!! |
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| 14:46.04 | Sos`` | how do i start a job |
| 14:46.05 | Sos`` | ? |
| 14:46.07 | Tau | only colors effects. |
| 14:46.12 | panannana | do you use debian squeez ? |
| 14:46.18 | panannana | use debian ? |
| 14:46.28 | SEX_MACHINE | hand job? |
| 14:46.31 | Sos`` | i mean, when I do ./something & does ctrl-c stop that? |
| 14:46.38 | Sos`` | haha |
| 14:46.43 | Sos`` | yeah, that |
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| 14:47.06 | Sos`` | this was creepy |
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| 14:47.41 | TheOne1 | Thank you. |
| 14:47.42 | dkr | Sos``: no |
| 14:47.47 | Tau | hi. |
| 14:47.48 | Sos`` | cool |
| 14:47.50 | Tau | can someone help me |
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| 14:48.14 | Tau | :( |
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| 14:48.15 | dkr | Sos``: kill %jobnumber to kill backgrounded jobs. jobs to list jobs |
| 14:48.15 | dselect | ) |
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| 14:48.24 | Sos`` | thankls |
| 14:48.27 | simonrvn | Tau: "profiles..." under edit menu, click "Default" and "edit" button; go to "general tab. it's right there. |
| 14:48.28 | panannana | debina |
| 14:48.31 | panannana | or the ubuntu |
| 14:48.33 | panannana | what should i use |
| 14:48.46 | simonrvn | uncheck "use system fixed width font" |
| 14:48.46 | themill | dselect: tell panannana about why debian |
| 14:49.19 | Tau | simonrvn, lol |
| 14:49.20 | Tau | oh |
| 14:49.22 | Tau | i'm sorry. |
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| 14:49.28 | Tau | simonrvn, i really didn't see that. |
| 14:49.30 | Tau | thank you. |
| 14:49.35 | simonrvn | np |
| 14:49.43 | Tau | has some vision problems |
| 14:49.58 | Sos`` | ctrl-c killed the job |
| 14:51.09 | simonrvn | it would, yes |
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| 14:53.12 | dkr | no, it wouldn't |
| 14:53.30 | dkr | unless it wasn't really backgrounded with & like you said |
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| 14:53.31 | Sos`` | dammit |
| 14:53.41 | Sos`` | it was |
| 14:53.51 | Sos`` | then i ctrl-c, and # jobs |
| 14:53.54 | Sos`` | and it gave nuthin |
| 14:54.23 | Tau | Sos``, what do you want ? |
| 14:54.28 | Sos`` | run mysqld |
| 14:54.33 | simonrvn | if it wasn't then no; if it was, and you didn't disown it, then yes |
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| 14:56.23 | dkr | http://paste.debian.net/110376/ |
| 14:57.06 | Sos`` | it wrote '[1]+ Done!' when I ctrl-c'd |
| 14:57.10 | Sos`` | reboots |
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| 14:57.38 | simonrvn | ok |
| 14:57.51 | gunknown | i updated a backage from the backports. If i remove the backports from the apt sourcelist and update the packagelist, will this cause a downgrade of this package with the next upgrade or any other errors? |
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| 14:58.21 | Sos`` | WTF |
| 14:58.23 | simonrvn | depends |
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| 14:58.25 | dkr | Sos``: it would have said Terminated if it caught the ^c |
| 14:58.33 | simonrvn | obiwahn: fix your network |
| 14:58.38 | Sos`` | hmm |
| 14:58.43 | dkr | Sos``: it exited for some other reason. check the log |
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| 14:58.45 | Sos`` | anyways, i can't even reboot |
| 14:58.46 | simonrvn | yep |
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| 14:59.18 | dvs | gunknown: no, nothing will change |
| 14:59.21 | dkr | Sos``: but, if this is mysqld, you should be using the init scripts anyway. like /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 14:59.33 | Sos`` | yeah i did that |
| 14:59.46 | obiwahn | simonrvn: done:P |
| 14:59.56 | simonrvn | obiwahn: yay |
| 15:00.08 | gunknown | ok, thanks |
| 15:00.13 | dkr | Sos``: ah, so the init scrip finished after it laucnhed mysqld, that makes sense now. there is no need to backgroudn an init script |
| 15:00.14 | obiwahn | simonrvn: maybe you want to hide join/part messages:) |
| 15:00.20 | DebraBarone | Hello. I ran some commands in the background using an ampersand (`command &') and closed the terminal I started them from. How can I get these back in the foreground)? |
| 15:00.23 | Sos`` | oh ok |
| 15:00.27 | simonrvn | only if it gets spammy |
| 15:00.45 | Sos`` | oh crap |
| 15:01.20 | simonrvn | DebraBarone: they might not even be running, depending. |
| 15:01.23 | dkr | DebraBarone: by having run screen beforehand... |
| 15:01.27 | engla | DebraBarone: you can't. GNU Screen is a great way to run commands in |
| 15:01.32 | Sos`` | http://paste.debian.net/110377/ |
| 15:01.41 | DebraBarone | simonrvn: They are running. |
| 15:01.41 | Sos`` | that happened when i started the mysql |
| 15:01.48 | DebraBarone | dkr/engla: Okay - I'll use Screen from now on. |
| 15:01.49 | DebraBarone | Thanks guys. |
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| 15:02.18 | engla | DebraBarone: for example, I'm using this irc program in a screen. So I can detach it from the terminal and reattach it later. or even attach to it in multiple terminals |
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| 15:02.30 | Sos`` | and I can't connect |
| 15:02.32 | simonrvn | took off |
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| 15:03.33 | dvs | you take off! ;-) |
| 15:04.40 | simonrvn | O_O. not here. |
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| 15:10.05 | Sos`` | man.... |
| 15:10.17 | Sos`` | i can't even comprehend |
| 15:10.19 | Sos`` | http://paste.debian.net/110378/ |
| 15:10.20 | Sos`` | this |
| 15:10.31 | Sos`` | there's like, everything wrong with the box |
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| 15:10.56 | Sos`` | it won't even reboot |
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| 15:12.30 | Sos`` | can someone please explain? |
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| 15:12.36 | Sos`` | or hint |
| 15:12.39 | Sos`` | or whatever |
| 15:12.49 | AthomIk | Sos have you backports use ? |
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| 15:13.19 | AthomIk | Sos``: have you database backup ? |
| 15:13.26 | project2501a | hmmmm. quota file is on blocks. is that 1k blocks or 512b? |
| 15:13.38 | Sos`` | no no |
| 15:14.00 | Sos`` | it won't backup now, since mysql is down |
| 15:14.06 | hemu | quota -s? |
| 15:14.14 | Iridos | Sos``, you sometimes can't reboot if the kernel is waiting for some hardware event |
| 15:14.22 | Sos`` | hmmm |
| 15:14.28 | Sos`` | howdo i poke it awake? |
| 15:14.32 | Iridos | like unmounting something that can't be unmounted |
| 15:14.39 | AthomIk | Sos``: if mysql is down copy the folder of your data in other place |
| 15:14.49 | Sos`` | where would it be? |
| 15:15.22 | AthomIk | Sos``: your home/backup per example |
| 15:15.32 | AthomIk | if you haven t other choice |
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| 15:15.54 | Sos`` | found it |
| 15:16.02 | Sos`` | can i 'sp' a directory? |
| 15:16.04 | project2501a | hemu: no banana |
| 15:16.05 | Sos`` | cp* |
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| 15:16.48 | AthomIk | cp -Rpf i think, after check you have a good backup |
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| 15:17.53 | AthomIk | Sos``: or can make tar cvzf database.tgz /mysqldata |
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| 15:18.13 | Sos`` | thx, copied it with -r ;) |
| 15:18.24 | sl-ed17 | Hi, wondering, what is the name of a debian control panel, where you could see or set hardware and drivers? |
| 15:18.32 | Sos`` | but still it's all down and won't reboot |
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| 15:18.40 | AthomIk | Sos have you break a upgrade of packages ? |
| 15:19.44 | AthomIk | Sos is youre pc or a distante server ? |
| 15:19.46 | dkr | rebooting is a windows thing. you don't have to reboot debian systems to fix issues |
| 15:19.49 | bgat | I have a pile of .debs in a directory, some of which have installation dependencies on others e.g. xserver-common depends on x11-xkb-utils; both pages of the correct versions are in the directory. When I do a "dpkg --install *deb", I still get errors due to unmet dependencies. Is there a way to do a mass install of these packages but still get the dependencies right? |
| 15:20.24 | Sos`` | yeah it's a remote server |
| 15:20.42 | Sos`` | ok, i won't reboot, but still mysql won't run |
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| 15:21.03 | AthomIk | Sos try init 6 |
| 15:21.18 | Sos`` | what does it do? |
| 15:21.28 | AthomIk | reboot |
| 15:21.30 | Sos`` | oh |
| 15:21.41 | Sos`` | nuthin |
| 15:21.51 | Sos`` | huh |
| 15:21.54 | Sos`` | weird |
| 15:22.28 | AthomIk | Sos``: have you read you re /var/log/syslog messages ? |
| 15:22.30 | project2501a | can i get some help with setquota, please? the man page is incomplete: it does not mention if it is talkign about 1k blocks or of other size, and it does not help you specify quotas in megabytes. not to mention the whole grace thing is kinda confusing: is it really in seconds? |
| 15:22.35 | Sos`` | nope |
| 15:22.44 | man_in_ltop | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=idmapd.conf&mode=filename&suite=unstable&arch=any |
| 15:22.56 | AthomIk | Sos read you re log, solution is in perhaps |
| 15:23.00 | man_in_ltop | ^^ why is that manpage in only a handful of packages? |
| 15:23.09 | KaffeeJunky123 | Hi, I'm trying to install debian onto a Raid0 but the installer doesn't seem to recognize the raid, it'll display sda and sdb instead of a raid device, I'm using DVD1. is there anything else i need? |
| 15:23.15 | man_in_ltop | manpages-fr-extra and nfs-common on m68k |
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| 15:23.34 | project2501a | KaffeeJunky123: repartition the drives correctly. use partman |
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| 15:25.29 | zafy | hey guys, I just installed firefox 3.6 using the tarball in mozilla's site and I've installed flash from adobe's site but for some reason I can't get it to work in firefox |
| 15:25.34 | AthomIk | Sos you have only ssh connection, no kvm ? |
| 15:25.36 | zafy | I tried in chrome and it works fine |
| 15:25.39 | KaffeeJunky123 | Project2501a: i'm using an opensuse rescue disk to do this atm. |
| 15:25.44 | zafy | can anyone help me with that ? |
| 15:26.07 | redeeman | hello - i set up a new squeeze to be used as a router, i enabled ip_forwarding in /proc/sys/net, and i appear to be able to establish connections one way, but not the other, any ideas? |
| 15:26.26 | redeeman | it seems to route from one interface to the other, and responses back, but not able to establish from the other side and out |
| 15:26.31 | DebraBarone | zafy: Chrome's Flash is built-in, so you shouldn't use it as a comparison. |
| 15:26.38 | project2501a | redeeman: your routing/nating is not correct. |
| 15:26.44 | Sos`` | FUCK |
| 15:26.45 | redeeman | theres no NAT |
| 15:26.48 | Sos`` | sorry.,.. |
| 15:26.53 | zafy | DebraBarone, ah, I didn't not know that |
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| 15:27.05 | DebraBarone | zafy: Did you install the non-free Flash player? |
| 15:27.13 | redeeman | project2501a, ofc its not right, thats why i ask :) therse no NAT, only routing.. i've done this a lot of times before, all i did was enable ip_forwarding and it worked |
| 15:27.20 | suprbly | yep chrome is an html5 browser :) |
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| 15:27.25 | Sos`` | http://paste.debian.net/110379/ |
| 15:27.29 | Sos`` | why that happened? |
| 15:27.33 | DebraBarone | suprbly: But it comes with Flash built-in. |
| 15:27.52 | Sos`` | it somehow IS there |
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| 15:28.00 | Sos`` | but then.. it isn't |
| 15:28.03 | Sos`` | and then it is again |
| 15:28.09 | ethanol | Sos``: lol idiot |
| 15:28.12 | AthomIk | Sos``: etc no ect |
| 15:28.14 | ethanol | Sos``: you typed /ect |
| 15:28.16 | Sos`` | HAAHA |
| 15:28.24 | KaffeeJunky123 | Project2501a: should I create filesystems on the new partitions? |
| 15:28.24 | babilen | zafy: And what does all this have to do with Debian? |
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| 15:29.08 | project2501a | KaffeeJunky123: you should set them as physical media for software raid, and then go into the raid manager and create raid partitions. |
| 15:29.12 | zafy | babilen, I'm on debian and I never had this problem on other distros ? |
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| 15:29.24 | project2501a | i am nine, and what is this? |
| 15:29.26 | Sos`` | VICTORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 15:29.36 | Sos`` | i love you all <3 :8 |
| 15:29.37 | AthomIk | :D |
| 15:29.37 | dselect | methinks d is a systems programming language. Its focus is on combining the power and high performance of C and C++ with the programmer productivity of modern languages like Ruby and Python. Special attention is given to the needs of quality assurance, documentation, management, portability and reliability. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_%28programming_language%29, or uninterruptible sleep (usually IO) |
| 15:29.47 | babilen | zafy: You might want to install "flashplugin-nonfree" or follow the instructions on Adobe's site on how to install their plugin manually. |
| 15:29.49 | themill | dselect: shush |
| 15:29.49 | dvs | from f**k to victory? |
| 15:29.49 | dselect | Fine, I'll shut up. |
| 15:30.00 | KaffeeJunky123 | Project2501a: but I don't want a software raid, there'll be an ntfs partition on that raid too |
| 15:30.02 | Sos`` | haha thanks to your help ;) |
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| 15:30.19 | ByteChanger | Morning Folks. |
| 15:30.20 | DebraBarone | zafy: When I used to use Arch, I found that after installing the non-free Flash plug-in, I had to make the directory for certain extentions readable by Firefox (or something similar - I'll look it up for you after I finish this message) else it wouldn't work. |
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| 15:30.41 | KaffeeJunky123 | project2501: or is it possible to have windows booting from a software raid? |
| 15:30.53 | zafy | DebraBarone, kay, thanks, gonna try to install the flash tar bal again, maybe I missed something |
| 15:31.03 | project2501a | KaffeeJunky123: i don't have time to help you further right now, i am late for some quotas. if you can please make a more accurate description of your situation (type of raid, partitions on raid) someone will be able to help you. |
| 15:31.08 | babilen | zafy: Check in "about:plugins" if you were successful. You are not using Debian software and such problems are therefore somewhat expected. AFAIR you have to place the libflashplugin.so in some .mozilla file, but I don't see the need to do that if you can just as easily install it using the "flashplugin-nonfree" package |
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| 15:31.28 | DebraBarone | zafy: Install Flash from the respository. |
| 15:31.37 | KaffeeJunky123 | Project2501a: thanks for your help and bye bye |
| 15:31.43 | DebraBarone | zafy: After you've done that, and restarted Firefox, tell me if it still doesn't work. |
| 15:32.03 | zafy | I'm using lenny and I get the followin |
| 15:32.05 | zafy | sorry |
| 15:32.07 | AthomIk | Sos``: don t forget backup database |
| 15:32.12 | ByteChanger | Every morning my router is showing "TearDrop Attack Detected". I trace the route back and it originates ate orff.debian.org The others also seem to come from ??????.debian.org Can someone tell m what that means? |
| 15:32.12 | zafy | and the package is adobe-flashplugin |
| 15:32.13 | babilen | !tell zafy -about paste |
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| 15:32.38 | DebraBarone | zafy: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 15:32.58 | zafy | No candidate version found for flashplugin-nonfree |
| 15:33.06 | homie` | hrhrhrhr |
| 15:33.06 | babilen | DebraBarone: That won't work if bdo is not enabled |
| 15:33.16 | babilen | !tell zafy -about lenny backports |
| 15:33.16 | DebraBarone | babilen: Ah, yeah, of course. |
| 15:33.23 | homie` | bdo or debian-multimedia |
| 15:33.58 | babilen | zafy: Please enable debian backports and try again. You might also want to consider upgrading to Squeeze. |
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| 15:34.31 | KaffeeJunky123 | So i have an nvidia raidcontroller, I've setup a raid0 through the bios utility, so it was a blank raid array. The debian installer would see it as two distinct drives though. And there's no Raid device in /dev/mapper/ wich I do have in my opensuse rescue disk shell. |
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| 15:35.19 | redeeman | anyone that have setup simple ip routing on squeeze? i have done the exact same thing i do on every other distribution, including lenny, but the traffic does not get through |
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| 15:35.27 | zafy | babilen, I would but for legacy reason I can't upgrade to squeeze right now (it's planned) |
| 15:35.40 | vtts | KaffeeJunky123, you need a correct driver for linux to properly recognize your nvidia fake-raid |
| 15:36.05 | babilen | zafy: Sure, you can use lenny-backports in the meanwhile. |
| 15:36.06 | vtts | KaffeeJunky123, anyway, you probably should use mdadm (linux soft-raid) anyway |
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| 15:36.18 | zafy | babilen, I have enabled lenny-backports but I get this : Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 15:36.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | Vtts: the problem is, I'm copying a windows part to this raid |
| 15:36.42 | babilen | zafy: Have you enabled "contrib" ? |
| 15:37.16 | vtts | KaffeeJunky123, ok then, so then you need a proper driver |
| 15:37.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | Vtts: doesn't the installer come with dmraid? |
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| 15:37.42 | babilen | zafy: Or to rephrase: Do your line in the sources.list for bdo end in "main contrib" (optionally non-free) ? |
| 15:37.59 | zafy | yeah I didn't have them, trying now |
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| 15:38.28 | vtts | KaffeeJunky123, it does, but it still does need a driver to see the raid setup you've configured in the bios |
| 15:38.34 | zafy | awesome it's in there |
| 15:38.38 | zafy | thanks babilen |
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| 15:38.45 | ByteChanger | Anyone know why my USR router thinks debian.org is doing a teardrop (D.O.S) attack on me? |
| 15:39.05 | ByteChanger | actually ???.debian.org |
| 15:39.09 | babilen | zafy: So, restart iceweasel/FF and check "about:plugins" |
| 15:39.22 | KaffeeJunky123 | Vtts: do you know where to get those if they don't come with the installer? |
| 15:40.13 | zafy | babilen yes it works |
| 15:40.15 | zafy | thanks |
| 15:40.24 | babilen | zafy: wonderful. you are welcome. :) |
| 15:40.32 | vtts | KaffeeJunky123, unfortunately no |
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| 15:41.11 | babilen | zafy: Just a note: I would actually recommend FF 4.0b?? given that you use the upstream package already. |
| 15:41.42 | zafy | babilen, yeah I was thinking about that, but I'm doing a web app and I need to make sure I have the same version of FF as the clients |
| 15:42.21 | zafy | and I have some work related stuff that only works with FF3x for now |
| 15:42.27 | babilen | zafy: Ah, Ok. In that case: Make sure that it works in as many different browsers as possible and adhere to the standards. Happy hacking! |
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| 15:46.29 | ploc | Hello, is there a way to know how a specific package has been installed (initial install, dependancy, manual apt install) ? |
| 15:47.31 | panannana | IS DEBIan good |
| 15:47.35 | panannana | for the beginners ? |
| 15:48.23 | dvs | panannana: depends how much you wan to learn. |
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| 15:48.33 | dvs | *want |
| 15:48.36 | panannana | i use linux since three years |
| 15:48.40 | panannana | cant decie between ubuntu debian |
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| 15:49.03 | gratnam11 | how do i change the default permissions for a files that are created insdie a directory |
| 15:49.14 | gratnam11 | i tried umask |
| 15:49.18 | ploc | If you use linux since 3 years, you should be smart enough to decide for yourself if you're ok to try debian or not... |
| 15:49.21 | AthomIk | gratnam11: try chmod |
| 15:49.35 | gratnam11 | i dont want to have to change it everytime |
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| 15:49.45 | gratnam11 | i want to change the default permisions for new files |
| 15:49.46 | ploc | gratnam11: then it's umask |
| 15:49.57 | gratnam11 | i did umask 007 |
| 15:50.01 | gratnam11 | created a file |
| 15:50.15 | gratnam11 | it says has rw and rw for users and groups |
| 15:50.21 | babilen | panannana: You asked in #debian it should therefore not surprise you if we recommend Debian as we've all taken that decision. :) It is IMHO a very good choice and comes with the additional benefit that you get support in #debian and not in #ubuntu. (hang out in both channels for a while to know what a difference that is) |
| 15:50.23 | gratnam11 | none for others |
| 15:50.33 | dvs | gratnam11: that is correct |
| 15:50.40 | gratnam11 | hm |
| 15:50.49 | gratnam11 | well i want to give users and groups 77 |
| 15:50.51 | dvs | gratnam11: what do you want |
| 15:50.55 | gratnam11 | others none |
| 15:51.03 | gratnam11 | how do i do it |
| 15:51.13 | ploc | gratnam11: you want final permissions to be 770 ? |
| 15:51.20 | gratnam11 | ye |
| 15:51.21 | gratnam11 | yes |
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| 15:51.33 | gratnam11 | how do i do umask for that |
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| 15:53.05 | gratnam11 | hello |
| 15:53.31 | zafy | ok so I have another (maybe not directly debian related) problem, I'm using xrandr for dual screen and everytime I start the gnome "Appearance" Dialog everything gets bigger (the resolution doesn't change, rather the text get extra large and the menu bars as well) |
| 15:53.58 | zafy | and this only happens when I'm using the dual screen, never if I using only the one from the laptop |
| 15:54.16 | zafy | (the laptop is a macbook 2,1 if that changes anything) |
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| 15:54.17 | dvs | gratnam11: What's the permission on that directory? |
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| 15:54.38 | gratnam11 | its 777 |
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| 15:54.44 | zafy | it's not a BIG problem per say, but it's pretty annoying |
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| 15:57.07 | gratnam11 | dvs any lucky? |
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| 15:57.29 | dvs | nope. |
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| 15:58.10 | pittstains | need help finding a webkit/rootkit |
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| 15:58.52 | vtts | pittstains, use rkhunter for rootkits |
| 15:59.20 | vtts | webkits are a bit more tricky |
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| 15:59.48 | pittstains | vtts: came across that one but had never heard of it, was hoping someone would vouch for or against it |
| 16:00.02 | pittstains | also, i'm not sure what it is I'm dealing with yet |
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| 16:00.29 | vtts | what are the symptoms? |
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| 16:00.35 | pittstains | they've inserted some code into my homepage and created a new PHP file |
| 16:00.46 | pittstains | the PHP is really just HTML content |
| 16:00.48 | gratnam11 | i tried umask 002 |
| 16:00.49 | gratnam11 | it gives me rw-rw-r-- |
| 16:01.06 | gratnam11 | i do umaks -S |
| 16:01.11 | gratnam11 | it shows me the permsion i want |
| 16:01.37 | gratnam11 | how does this work some one please explain |
| 16:01.52 | vtts | pittstains, are you using any kind of CMS? |
| 16:02.16 | themill | gratnam11: why do they need to be marked as executable? |
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| 16:02.31 | gratnam11 | they don't |
| 16:02.37 | pittstains | vtts: yes, but the attack is on a static HTML site |
| 16:02.47 | vtts | pittstains, check ftp logins |
| 16:02.53 | gratnam11 | i just want to give users and others full permsions |
| 16:02.55 | themill | gratnam11: so you're getting exactly what you want then |
| 16:03.08 | gratnam11 | not exactly |
| 16:03.12 | pittstains | vtts: no FTP here, only SFTP and SSH |
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| 16:03.22 | vtts | pittstains, check those :) |
| 16:03.59 | pittstains | vtts: i'll look now... what am i looking for? |
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| 16:04.33 | vtts | pittstains, logins with the web user from other hosts than yours |
| 16:05.03 | vtts | pittstains, file creation dates could help |
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| 16:05.18 | pittstains | vtts: well, the file is owned by my HTML monkey rather than the web user.... |
| 16:05.39 | pittstains | maybe there's a key logger on his system? |
| 16:05.42 | vtts | monkey? |
| 16:05.53 | Mikaze | Anyone know how to stop the annoying "You have mail" on the command line? When I wanna know if I have mail, I'll look. |
| 16:05.55 | pittstains | the guy who does HTML updates :-) |
| 16:06.23 | vtts | ok, check for his logins :) |
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| 16:07.58 | gratnam11 | when i create a directory i get the right permsion |
| 16:08.08 | gratnam11 | but creating file gives me a different permsion |
| 16:09.28 | Mikaze | gratnam11: 'man umask' |
| 16:09.38 | gratnam11 | okay |
| 16:09.54 | gratnam11 | man umask says no entry |
| 16:10.17 | project2501a | a |
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| 16:10.38 | project2501a | besides proftpd are there any other ftpd servers with an sql backend? |
| 16:11.06 | themill | gratnam11: it would be "help umask". But I'm still don't have a clear picture as to what you want and want you are getting (and why you want that would help too) |
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| 16:11.48 | Mikaze | gratnam11: umask is the program involved, set either in .profile or .bashrc, and defines which file permissions are set by default. |
| 16:12.12 | gratnam11 | i want to grant users and and ppl in the same group full permsions for that directory |
| 16:12.26 | gratnam11 | mikaze is there a way to set it up for a group? |
| 16:13.04 | themill | gratnam11: and how does that differ from what you are currently getting? |
| 16:13.16 | Mikaze | gratnam11: Not sure about that one. Never had the need to look. |
| 16:13.22 | gratnam11 | i don;t know |
| 16:13.24 | pittstains | vtts: this looks bad, huh? su[22250]: Successful su for nobody by root |
| 16:13.31 | gratnam11 | i want permsions for iles to be 770 |
| 16:14.01 | themill | gratnam11: why do you want the files to be marked as executable? You said a few minutes that you did *not* want that. |
| 16:14.07 | gratnam11 | i am only getting 663 |
| 16:14.08 | ploc | gratnam11: you can't do that |
| 16:14.27 | gratnam11 | i want them to be excuatable because users need to excute scripts |
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| 16:15.14 | ploc | gratnam11: what is the umask you set ? |
| 16:15.38 | gratnam11 | i set it to umask 007 |
| 16:15.53 | gratnam11 | this is what i get |
| 16:15.56 | gratnam11 | umask -S |
| 16:15.57 | gratnam11 | u=rwx,g=rwx,o= |
| 16:16.15 | vtts | pittstains, its root->nobody, it might be ok, the other way arround would be bad |
| 16:16.45 | gratnam11 | i create a new file i get this -rw-rw---- 1 alara www-data 0 2011-03-11 11:16 test |
| 16:16.48 | pittstains | vtts: "Accepted publickey for root" suggests root has an ssh passwordless login? |
| 16:17.04 | ploc | gratnam11: if your umask is 007, when you create a folder, the system give the folder the following permissions : 777 - 007 = 770 |
| 16:17.07 | ploc | is that tight ? |
| 16:17.11 | ploc | is that right ? |
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| 16:18.06 | gratnam11 | yes |
| 16:18.30 | gratnam11 | but thats not what i get when i create a new file though |
| 16:18.46 | ploc | gratnam11: if your umask is 007, when you create a file, the system give the file the following permissions : 666 - 007 = 660 |
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| 16:18.59 | themill | the executable bit should only get set manually on files when you know they are a file that should be executable |
| 16:19.11 | gratnam11 | where does the 666 come from? |
| 16:19.15 | Winkie | i'm trying to install squeeze, but having booted a businesscard image over PXE, it does not see any network devices |
| 16:19.17 | Winkie | they're in lspci |
| 16:19.23 | Winkie | but there don't seem to be any network drivers included at all |
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| 16:19.25 | ploc | the point is : files and folders are not managed the same way, it is a security feature I think |
| 16:19.26 | pittstains | here we go: sshd[23128]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for loft3131.serverloft.com [188.138.0.225] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! |
| 16:19.28 | Winkie | no ifconfig, and 'ip link list' shows only 'lo' |
| 16:19.35 | Winkie | so u |
| 16:19.36 | Winkie | h |
| 16:19.41 | Winkie | did someone forget to package network drivers? |
| 16:19.47 | ploc | gratnam11: the point is : files and folders are not managed the same way, it is a security feature I think |
| 16:19.56 | gratnam11 | i see |
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| 16:20.07 | pittstains | vtts: it looks like the logs new something i didn't: sshd[23128]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for loft3131.serverloft.com [188.138.0.225] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! |
| 16:20.08 | Winkie | also in what way are files and folders not managed in the same way? |
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| 16:20.28 | gratnam11 | but when i upload files through filezilla i get -rw-r--r-- 1 alara www-data 2382 2011-03-11 11:20 rmuser |
| 16:20.39 | ploc | gratnam11: if you can't do something with debian, you probably try to do it the wrong way... |
| 16:20.42 | vtts | pittstains, "accepted publickey" -> check for /root/.ssh/authorized_hosts |
| 16:21.34 | themill | gratnam11: you need to configure filezilla to set the correct file permissions for you; this is something that the client does -- there's no default setting for this. |
| 16:21.43 | ploc | gratnam11: for a webserver, rw-r--r-- should be enough |
| 16:21.52 | vtts | pittstains, check for alien file creation times, or modification times for changed files |
| 16:22.07 | gratnam11 | hm |
| 16:22.07 | Winkie | in fact i even see an installation report from someone using via-rhine |
| 16:22.12 | ploc | gratnam11: themill is right, you have to set a post transfert filezilla setting |
| 16:22.13 | Winkie | so why the heck isn't it packaged in the initrd? |
| 16:22.17 | gratnam11 | so what i want ti snot acheable? |
| 16:22.27 | vtts | pittstains, authorized_hosts -> authorized_keys |
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| 16:23.46 | Winkie | so it looks like the wifi drivers |
| 16:23.50 | Winkie | are packaged seperately on the CD |
| 16:23.52 | Mikaze | figures is someone in a group has r/w permissions on a file, and they wanna execute it, let them type their own friggin chmod +x. |
| 16:23.54 | Winkie | meaning you can't pxe boot squeeze |
| 16:23.59 | Winkie | unless you manually build an initrd |
| 16:24.02 | Winkie | with the wifi included |
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| 16:25.10 | Winkie | someone wanna tell me i'm wrong here? |
| 16:25.20 | Winkie | cause that sounds like the dumbest decision i've heard in a while if true |
| 16:25.30 | Winkie | and will delay me by however long it takes to rebuild a debian installer initrd |
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| 16:27.31 | cahoot | + the time spent on irc to complain about it |
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| 16:27.57 | Winkie | yeah, lets just ignore stupid decisions and never mention them, that'll fix it |
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| 16:28.21 | themill | Winkie: ranting about them in #debian certainly won't fix them. /msg dpkg ranting; /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 16:28.51 | Mikaze | Winkie: Governments are always that way. |
| 16:28.54 | Winkie | i'm not ranting |
| 16:28.57 | Winkie | i'm asking for someone to tell me i'm wrong |
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| 16:30.48 | Mikaze | guesses no one knows the answer to his "How do I toggle off mail checking on the CLI" question, so goes and sees if his GF is online. |
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| 16:30.50 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 16:30.59 | Mikaze | Keep well, all... |
| 16:31.00 | ZenWalker | how cai I reinstall a package with aptitude ? |
| 16:31.16 | Mikaze | aptitude reinstall <package> |
| 16:31.30 | themill | Mikaze: man bash; look for MAIL* environment variables |
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| 16:31.55 | Mikaze | themill: Tnx! |
| 16:32.23 | wolfric_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#File%20Not%20Found%20(Error%2015) i've basically got this error (with debian). What would be the best way to fix it? Could i boot an install cd, go to recovery mode, chroot into the os partition and do the upgrade-from-legacy-grub again? |
| 16:32.37 | Winkie | oh right |
| 16:32.41 | Winkie | so in fact the boot CD doesn't even have dpkg |
| 16:32.46 | Winkie | and that's presumably something to be installed somewhere |
| 16:32.50 | wolfric_ | i selected sdb1 instead of sdb to install grub into |
| 16:33.03 | Winkie | where can i go to complain about this legitimately then themill? it doesn't seem like a bug is appropriate as i object to the whole decision process |
| 16:33.23 | themill | Winkie: a bug is exactly what you should file |
| 16:33.43 | Winkie | themill: i just doubt i can accurately sum this up as I don't know much |
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| 16:33.49 | Winkie | to me it seems debian has completely screwed netbooting |
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| 16:33.51 | Winkie | from start to finish |
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| 16:34.08 | Winkie | i can supply the .udebs |
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| 16:34.13 | Winkie | but dpkg doesn't exist |
| 16:34.21 | Winkie | which is just crazy to me |
| 16:34.29 | Winkie | how can you ship an install CD without dpkg being inherently part of it |
| 16:35.07 | dkr | to fit it on a business card? why don't you just use normal netinst? |
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| 16:35.28 | Winkie | dkr: that's what i tried first, but that doesn't have the drivers incorporated either |
| 16:35.31 | Winkie | they're udebs on the install CD |
| 16:35.49 | Winkie | i can't even begin to understand the process behind it |
| 16:35.54 | Winkie | unless there's some easy way to netboot i've missed |
| 16:36.04 | Winkie | it seems all install CDs come with completely useless kernels + initrds |
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| 16:37.05 | DogWater | I'm trying to install lenny on a server and it keeps telling me that the volitile mirror is missing.. anyone know what i need to do with that?> |
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| 16:38.03 | themill | DogWater: the exact command that causes that error and the entire error in a pastebin is more likely to elucidate a useful answer. |
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| 16:38.23 | pittstains | vtts: sigh, i don't get it.... the enemy file was created at 2011-02-16 14:27, but from 14:00:00 on the auth log shows only cron jobs and an Accepted publickey for root from Linode (who hosts my virtual machine) |
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| 16:39.40 | Winkie | themill / dkr: i'm resorting to putting the whole /pool directory on the initrd and hoping |
| 16:39.46 | Winkie | the netinst doesn't seem to be any better |
| 16:39.52 | Winkie | what should i file this bug against? |
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| 16:40.45 | Winkie | cause i will be going on a rant i am afraid |
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| 16:41.09 | Winkie | this seems a short sighted decision with the only benefit being a minor reduction in initrd size, with a resultant gigantic increase in difficulty of simple configuration |
| 16:42.11 | themill | Winkie: I think at this stage it's fair to say that no-one has any idea what it is you're trying to actually achieve. |
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| 16:43.40 | Winkie | themill: i'm trying to install debian, by booting it with PXE |
| 16:43.55 | Winkie | the machines i'm installing on do not have things like: activated usb ports |
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| 16:44.22 | Winkie | before now you could take the netinst or businesscard images, take the initrd and vmlinuz from the installer, boot it and it would happily download you packages and install them as normal |
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| 16:44.38 | Winkie | for squeeze, it seems that someone's wise decision is to take all the absolutely essentiall stuff like network drivers and dpkg |
| 16:44.42 | Winkie | and package them seperately on the cd |
| 16:44.49 | themill | debian distributes images that are specially designed for netbooting |
| 16:44.54 | Winkie | where? |
| 16:45.48 | themill | Winkie: http://www.debian.org/ -> network install -> http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#netboot |
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| 16:46.33 | Winkie | themill: thank you, i have no clue how i can have missed that |
| 16:46.40 | Winkie | presumably because 'netinst' and 'netboot' are quite close together |
| 16:46.47 | themill | §4.5 of the installation manual may be useful too |
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| 16:47.04 | Winkie | it's fine if this has an initrd with the basics then i'm happy |
| 16:47.12 | Winkie | because the CD won't even let you pass a directory full of packages |
| 16:47.17 | themill | yes, the "netinst" is poorly named. It's unlikely to be renamed, however. |
| 16:47.18 | Winkie | it MUST detect a device |
| 16:47.22 | pittstains | vtts: my logs indicate the HTML guy has been logging in from both Slovenia and Norway |
| 16:47.27 | Winkie | which is something i think i might file a bug over |
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| 16:47.45 | Winkie | because mandatory behavior like reading a removable device file instead of just browsing a directory is completely dumb |
| 16:47.45 | pittstains | only one of those corresponds to his actual location, as far as i know |
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| 16:47.55 | Winkie | anyway themill i'll grab these and complain some more if it doesn't work |
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| 16:48.32 | project2501a | hm. what is the diff between /usr/share/doc and /usr/share/doc-base ? |
| 16:48.33 | markeylia | hey |
| 16:49.17 | markeylia | zong guo ren chu lai da shen zhao hu |
| 16:49.29 | themill | dpkg: tell project2501a about doc-base |
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| 16:49.44 | project2501a | ta |
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| 16:50.58 | markeylia | have chinese plz coming |
| 16:51.14 | fachrat | hi, could you tell me how to force "apt-get dist-upgrade" to start with the debconf stuff? |
| 16:51.30 | adb | !zh |
| 16:51.39 | fachrat | so, that all configuration questions are asked at the beginning |
| 16:52.07 | themill | fachrat: if possible, that's exactly what is done |
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| 16:52.57 | markeylia | haha |
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| 16:53.42 | themill | :zh |
| 16:53.42 | dselect | it has been said that cn is China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE |
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| 16:54.43 | fachrat | themill, a friend told me there was a command for this task |
| 16:54.44 | Winkie | themill: all seems fine thanks |
| 16:54.58 | markeylia | 大家以åè¦å¦ä¸æ |
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| 16:55.34 | SPF | !cn |
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| 16:56.09 | markeylia | i love debian |
| 16:56.13 | markeylia | haha |
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| 16:56.24 | joeb_ | !help |
| 16:56.29 | joeb_ | meh |
| 16:56.44 | fachrat | Another question: the upgrade-guide tells me to restart before "apt-get dist-up.." |
| 16:56.59 | fachrat | I would like to restart without kdm, is that possible? |
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| 16:58.16 | fachrat | see you later |
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| 17:00.37 | markeylia | haha |
| 17:00.46 | DogWater | what is lenny's designation now that squeeze is known as 'stable'? is it 'oldstable'? |
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| 17:01.58 | themill | DogWater: yes, lenny is oldstable for as long as security support is provided (another 11 months from now; possibly more) |
| 17:01.58 | tharkun | bingo |
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| 17:02.35 | tharkun | themill: "possibly more" what determins that? |
| 17:03.29 | themill | There's recently been a little discussion amongst the security team as to whether they could try to provide support for longer |
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| 17:04.19 | tharkun | Meaning the livecycle of each realese would be extended to 6 years (give or take a few months) |
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| 17:05.34 | themill | I don't know where you're getting 6 from. Changing from 3ish to 4ish *might* happen though. (there's not really any point in counting the time prior to release, if that's what you're doing) |
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| 17:11.00 | tharkun | themill: Sorry you are right. I misscalculated the time period. Thanks for explaining |
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| 17:13.30 | g00se | Kicking myself here: could have sworn i found the path to using the kFreeBSD kernel in the squeeze installer but can't find it again. How do i get into it? |
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| 17:13.57 | markeylia | æä¼ä¸æçå |
| 17:14.06 | markeylia | åºæ¥æ个æå¼ |
| 17:14.56 | project2501a | markeylia: english, please. |
| 17:15.04 | freddy | When i upgraded from grub legacy and reboot, i now get "too little memory" problem. I tried rebooting into a live cd, chrooting into install partition and grub-install to /dev/sda and rebooting but it didn't fix anything. I can't find many references to this on google. Some old mailing lists from 2008 referencing a coding issue etc |
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| 17:15.12 | markeylia | my english is very xxxx |
| 17:15.29 | freddy | As in it starts to load grub (display the word grub) and then displays too little memory |
| 17:16.03 | themill | g00se: you download the kfreebsd installer image rather than the linux installer image. |
| 17:16.19 | thewanderer1 | freddy: maybe you have some "memory hole" enabled in BIOS while you shouldn't, or vice versa? |
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| 17:16.32 | freddy | thewanderer1: can you elaborate on that? |
| 17:16.46 | markeylia | I want to get help, but not in English |
| 17:17.04 | tharkun | markeylia: what language? |
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| 17:17.10 | thewanderer1 | freddy: there's usually a BIOS option called "memory hole" on older computers which reportedly breaks GRUB sometimes |
| 17:17.15 | markeylia | chinese |
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| 17:17.40 | freddy | thewanderer1: havn't seen it in the bios. I've looked extensivly through it recently |
| 17:18.06 | tharkun | !tell markeylia cn |
| 17:18.13 | tharkun | !tell markeylia about cn |
| 17:18.19 | dkr | markeylia: /j #debian-zh |
| 17:18.32 | markeylia | thank you |
| 17:18.35 | g00se | themill: I must be imagining things, as i've only got the squeeze one. I wonder if there's some reference to it in live build somehow? I could have sworn i saw it in a kernel menu... |
| 17:18.42 | thewanderer1 | freddy: then I don't have any clue about this, sorry, it's the only reason I've ever seen on my machines for this |
| 17:18.46 | tharkun | dkr: dpkg awall? |
| 17:18.58 | dkr | tharkun: not at the moment |
| 17:19.30 | dkr | well, technically dpkg is awol at the moment. :) |
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| 17:20.10 | themill | tharkun, dkr: dselect is here though; address character is : |
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| 17:20.26 | tharkun | themill: thanks |
| 17:21.20 | dkr | themill: yeah, and it was triggered for him, but he missed it |
| 17:21.24 | markeylia | Fact not in the chat room you play with me |
| 17:21.34 | ZenWalker | If I have testing, why I have ffmpeg 5:0.5 ? |
| 17:22.06 | ZenWalker | actually on testing is 4, not 5 |
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| 17:24.30 | jelly | ,versions ffmpeg |
| 17:24.30 | judd | Package ffmpeg on i386 -- lenny: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny1; lenny-security: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny3; lenny-multimedia: 3:20070329-0.0etch1; squeeze: 4:0.5.2-6; sid: 4:0.6.1-5; wheezy: 4:0.6.1-5; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2; wheezy-multimedia: 5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2; sid-multimedia: 5:0.6.1+svn20110308-0.0 |
| 17:24.55 | themill | do the words "epoch war" come to mind there? |
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| 17:25.24 | jelly | ZenWalker: you seem to have an older debian-multimedia package installed. Update your d-m sources to point to wheezy ones. |
| 17:25.44 | themill | (or don't) |
| 17:25.45 | jelly | themill: I still don't understand why the Debian mplayer had to be bumped to 2: |
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| 17:26.01 | ZenWalker | jelly: http://pastebin.com/v3STczp3 |
| 17:26.04 | king313 | Hi guys. Any suggestion about a secure ftp server? |
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| 17:26.53 | jelly | king313: do you want to hear the "use ssh instead" opinion |
| 17:27.21 | themill | jelly: because the maintainers of every single multimedia package in the archive are sick of getting bug reports where the bug is "dmm broke ABI again and didn't bother testing the packages". So they try to provide an upgrade path that will drag people over to debian packages from the dmm ones each release cycle. |
| 17:27.32 | king313 | jelly, I don't want to |
| 17:27.35 | gnugr | king313: FileZilla |
| 17:27.49 | king313 | if they're any alternative like sftp who is easy to install, I have no problem to do it |
| 17:28.16 | king313 | but I need to transfer files easy and I want some protection too |
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| 17:28.37 | themill | !sftp |
| 17:28.41 | themill | :sftp |
| 17:28.41 | dselect | sftp is, like, a program that provides FTP-like functionality over an ssh2 tunnel. Linux clients are in the packages openssh-client, filezilla, konqueror, gftp. The server is in the package openssh-server. For Windows clients, ask me about <winscp>, <filezilla>. See also <scp> and <sshfs>. |
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| 17:29.30 | gnugr | !prism |
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| 17:31.15 | Dmarkmkm | just a quick question to you guys, can I install debian squeeze WITHOUT the nouveau? |
| 17:31.26 | gnugr | :prism |
| 17:31.26 | dselect | [prism] a family of wireless LAN chipsets produced by Intersil/Conexant. For Prism54 (802.11g) chipset support, ask me about <p54>. For Prism 2/2.5/3 (802.11b) chipset support, ask me about <hostap>, <prism2_usb>. Device list: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_chipset.php?chipset=Prism&zoek=Show |
| 17:31.27 | homosapiens | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glJQ-1but3M |
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| 17:33.23 | Dmarkmkm | can I install debian squeeze "without" nouveau? |
| 17:33.25 | erAbuelo | buenas tardes |
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| 17:35.50 | Dmarkmkm | I have been wrestling with this nouveau crap to remove it but couldnt! |
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| 17:42.42 | ZenWalker | jelly: thanks :) |
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| 17:43.48 | eXpLoD | how can i add a script to startup? |
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| 17:45.12 | KaffeeJunky123 | so after all I finally managed to install debian squeeze to a raid |
| 17:45.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | or to be more specific, I managed to get grub to install finally :) |
| 17:47.20 | bolt | i can enable it manually, and utf-8 filenames show up fine. but by default winscp will store files which names look messed up on the local system |
| 17:47.24 | bolt | connecting with winscp to my debian server, it does not enable utf-8 for filenames. its manual says that when utf-8 is set to "auto", it will use it for sftp protocol version >=4. how can i find out which sftp protocol my server supports? |
| 17:47.37 | bolt | er. wrong order. switch those around :) |
| 17:47.58 | bolt | eXpLoD: /etc/rc.local, as long as your script returns 0. always. |
| 17:48.40 | bluesceada | hmm are there some squeeze backports so i can use ath9k_htc in a clean way? |
| 17:48.50 | bluesceada | or do i need to get a new kernel |
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| 17:56.34 | bluesceada | :S |
| 17:56.34 | dselect | somebody said s was a lot of things. It used to say .s is for ASM files, btw :D |
| 17:56.46 | bluesceada | i say .asm is for asm files |
| 17:57.12 | bluesceada | ok, not for intel/x86 people... |
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| 17:57.35 | bluesceada | gets a newer kernel because squeeze ist too outdated |
| 18:00.15 | Cromulent | ahh looks like my conversion from ubuntu to debian is complete |
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| 18:01.11 | yvemath | Um, how can i install mkfs.ext4 in debian ? |
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| 18:02.20 | erAbuelo | re :$ |
| 18:02.34 | omes | yvemath: install e2fsprogs |
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| 18:02.51 | yvemath | it's already installed. |
| 18:02.55 | omes | yvemath: for future reference you might be interested in apt-file |
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| 18:03.15 | yvemath | e2fsprogs is already the newest version. |
| 18:03.25 | omes | yvemath: I'm using testing, let me check if it's in testing |
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| 18:03.34 | omes | err, let me check if it's in stable |
| 18:04.21 | gnugr | dselect: i need prism to open some school weblessons, it works on Ubuntu fine. check it here: http://ts.sch.gr/repo-pages/about-ts-repo |
| 18:04.22 | dselect | gnugr: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 18:05.15 | omes | y5 |
| 18:05.17 | omes | 5 |
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| 18:06.03 | yvemath | omes: what's the testing repo ? i'd use that ? |
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| 18:07.29 | arvind_khadri | Hi, how can I record voice in Squeeze? |
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| 18:08.02 | thewanderer1 | arvind_khadri: by a voice recording program, like Audacity or KRec (may be defunct now), also CLI programs like 'arecord' or 'sox' |
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| 18:08.28 | yvemath | arecord [+] |
| 18:08.36 | arvind_khadri | thewanderer1, am on xfce, thanks :) |
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| 18:09.54 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: test |
| 18:10.36 | yvemath | omes: is it there ? |
| 18:10.41 | omes | yvemath: yes |
| 18:11.00 | omes | yvemath: /sbin/mkfs.ext4 |
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| 18:11.59 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: test |
| 18:12.01 | dpkg | Test failed. |
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| 18:18.01 | jarleb_ | can anybody hel me with a sentence using sed to change all ? in the filenames into p |
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| 18:18.56 | erAbuelo | sed -e 's/\?/p/g' |
| 18:19.07 | bolt | jarleb_: if you have a filename with the wrong encoding, btw, you might want "convmv" |
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| 18:22.08 | Iridos | ... dpkg is back! \o/ |
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| 18:23.45 | dondelelcaro | yeah, appears to have been an issue with hubbard, FN's server, which apparently has been split off for a while now, but still in the rotation |
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| 18:24.43 | pittstains | quick question: i'm just wrapping up an investigation into an intrusion, and I'm wondering if there's some reasonable explanation as to why the timestamps in /var/log/auth would vary from the timestamps on files on the file system |
| 18:25.08 | rioch | I want to install calendarserver on squeeze. The .deb for calendarserver says it depends on >=python2.5; however, when I install it, it tries to install python2.5. Is there a way to prevent this? |
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| 18:25.46 | pittstains | for instance, i have an apparent intrusion at 19:26:06, and an alien file created at 2011-02-16 14:27 |
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| 18:26.25 | pittstains | seems to me the intrusion occurred at hh:26 and the file was created at hh:27 |
| 18:26.45 | pittstains | could the auth log and the filesystem somehow be using different timezones? |
| 18:27.00 | francy | hi! I've installed squeeze on a netbook but I'm unable to stop di spinning down of the hard drive, can you help me? |
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| 18:27.45 | jaws | Hi! |
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| 18:29.12 | jaws | I have a debian with two thernet cards etho-->LAN eth1-->INternet I am trying to go in from internet to my server ssh into my LAN |
| 18:29.34 | jaws | I have a forwarding |
| 18:29.36 | jaws | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 18:29.43 | jaws | and rule from iptable |
| 18:29.54 | jaws | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -s 10.0.1.0/24 -j MASQUERADE |
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| 18:31.34 | bbd | pittstains: everything possible but in this case it's unlikely. maybe your system was compromised much earlier |
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| 18:31.47 | cyphermen | what is your problem? sry i didnt saw what are u wrote here before |
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| 18:32.16 | pittstains | bbd: unfortunately, my auth logs don't back much further than this |
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| 18:32.38 | pittstains | bbd: on the other hand, fortunately, the account had limited access |
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| 18:33.14 | jaws | cyphermen: me ? |
| 18:33.16 | rozie | jaws: sounds fine |
| 18:33.29 | bbd | pittstains: check other logs, bash history files, chkrootkit, rkhunter, configs and init scripts in etc and maybe you'll get the idea |
| 18:33.30 | cyphermen | ok nvm :) |
| 18:33.34 | jaws | rozie: yes, but I can go into my LAN |
| 18:33.48 | jaws | just can go to debian server |
| 18:33.53 | rozie | jaws: redirect a port? |
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| 18:34.26 | pittstains | bbd: already ran rkhunter, turned up empty. account doesn't have shell access (sftp only), so there was only so much they could do, i believe |
| 18:34.39 | bbd | jaws, any other rules in iptables filter or nat tables? |
| 18:34.58 | pittstains | bbd: going to take a closer look at the home dir to see if anything else funny turns up, though :-) |
| 18:35.10 | jaws | rozie:yes, I have the redirect into the router |
| 18:35.19 | jaws | no debian |
| 18:35.39 | rozie | jaws: I don't get the topology |
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| 18:35.52 | yvemath | what does this mean fellows > http://pastebin.com/upQ0stnC , any serious issue ? Or just that the kernel doesnt supports ext4 faults, and my filesystem isnt damaged yet ? |
| 18:35.56 | rozie | A---debian---internet ? |
| 18:36.07 | rozie | and you want to get from internet to A? |
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| 18:36.56 | jaws | Router ---> Debian---eth0 y eth1 :: eth1 internet router eth0::LAN |
| 18:37.02 | cenobytes | anybody tried to install debian on powerpc lately? |
| 18:37.17 | Iridos | how is one supposed to use chromium-browser-dbg? |
| 18:37.22 | jaws | I can go to debian but using eth1 |
| 18:37.44 | bbd | pittstains: yeah not much bad things to do over sftp if it's not privileged user |
| 18:37.50 | jaws | if I try to go to ssh server in my LAN I cant |
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| 18:38.13 | pittstains | bbd: glad I insisted on setting the user up that way, despite protests :-) |
| 18:38.14 | jhutchins_lt | This is very annoying. My trackpad has started intermittently jumping the cursor to the right side of the screen if I touch it anywhere on the right half. |
| 18:38.47 | jhutchins_lt | I can only use half of the pad to track left, and it takes several strokes to get across the screen. One fals touch and I have to start over again. |
| 18:38.56 | rozie | jaws: multiple redirect. I'd go ipv6 nat piercing tunnel and use ipv6 |
| 18:39.00 | bbd | yvemath: hardware failure?! |
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| 18:39.24 | Iridos | duh, and why is /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser-sandbox actually suid root |
| 18:39.32 | yvemath | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.49 | yvemath | I don't want this to come out as a serious issue :( |
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| 18:40.11 | bbd | yvemath: show us 'dmesg' output in pastebin |
| 18:40.13 | yvemath | just trying to install gentoo on a gpt disk with ext4 /boot and / |
| 18:40.15 | yvemath | okay. |
| 18:40.19 | jaws | ? |
| 18:40.56 | yvemath | installing curl, wait... |
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| 18:41.28 | yvemath | bbd: http://sprunge.us/FePL |
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| 18:45.56 | bbd | yvemath: for me it looks related to hardware. either hardware is bad or it's not yet properly supported in 2.6.32. Is this new install? |
| 18:46.56 | yvemath | debian squeeze + using SCSI harddisk, it happened when i was trying to mount /dev/sdb4 which is an ext4 filesystem.. to install gentoo on it. |
| 18:47.01 | francy | please can you help me in stopping hd spindown ? |
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| 18:48.33 | bbd | yvemath: so the box was stable all the time until you added some disk or something else? |
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| 18:49.21 | Deepymobile | Anyone got a server with ssh on port 22? |
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| 18:49.41 | Deepymobile | I need to figure out if my operator is blocking non-standard ports or if it's just blocking ssh |
| 18:50.33 | arumaniac | Deepymobile, nmap -iR -p 22 |
| 18:50.34 | arumaniac | :P |
| 18:50.34 | dselect | [p] 1. piano (musical direction) 2. proton |
| 18:50.50 | Deepymobile | arumaniac: I have limited bandwidth :p |
| 18:51.21 | yvemath | bbd: debian is installed on /dev/sda which uses ext2 + ext3 filesystems.. And i was trying to install gentoo from debian environment on /dev/sdb which has 2 ext4 filesystems i.e. /dev/sdb2 for /boot [gentoo] , /dev/sdb4 / [gentoo] .. mkfs.ext4 worked fine, but it gave me that error when i wanted to mount the file systems on /mnt/gentoo and /mnt/gentoo/boot |
| 18:52.22 | pittstains | bbd: how about this wacky theory about the differing timestamps.... since the SFTP user doesn't have a shell, it can't access environment variables like TZ, etc., which means the created file gets stamped with one timezone taken into account, and the log takes another timezone into account.... |
| 18:52.27 | niklaswe | yvemath: why dont you use the gentoo install cd instead |
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| 18:52.51 | pittstains | my server is at GMT-5, and the discrepancy I'm looking at is 5 hours... |
| 18:53.00 | yvemath | Don't have CD/DVD writer/reader working + no audio/usb support on this box. |
| 18:53.42 | yvemath | I've been installing and trying various linux distros, using memstick.img + grub2 and installing another linux distro from a *nix env. |
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| 18:54.17 | yvemath | i've been switching from archlinux to debian to slack to *BSD and now want to try gentoo. |
| 18:54.29 | bbd | yvemath: i still suspect hw. or kernel too old |
| 18:54.37 | homie | lol |
| 18:54.46 | homie | zapper! |
| 18:54.53 | yvemath | bbd: kernel is 2.6.32-5 if you want the version. |
| 18:55.03 | bbd | yvemath: i see that in dmesg ;) |
| 18:55.15 | yvemath | I do need to confirm if this is a kernel support problem |
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| 18:55.32 | babilen | !tell yvemath -about hcl |
| 18:56.17 | babilen | yvemath: You can run "lspci -n" and paste the output on the kmuto site. It will tell you about the current support status of your hardware. (Or rather the subset that is reported by lspci) |
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| 18:56.53 | babilen | yvemath: Forgive me if this is not what you were looking for, but I've just joined recently and don't have the complete backlog. |
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| 18:57.31 | yvemath | no problem.. :) |
| 18:58.05 | Iridos | I'll remember that... much nicer to say than "I don't want to read all that" |
| 18:58.32 | babilen | Iridos: Hehe, but true in this case :) |
| 18:58.47 | yvemath | I did read what the dpkg bot said, and what you wanted to point out. |
| 18:59.11 | Iridos | babilen, oh, of course I BELIEVE YOU ;) |
| 18:59.12 | yvemath | But that only tells me, that my h/w is compatible with debian |
| 18:59.33 | yvemath | It doesnt tells me , if ext4 is supported in 2.6.32 or not |
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| 19:00.20 | Raptors | n00b question. Will my debian desktop implode if I add a ubuntu repo? |
| 19:00.46 | yvemath | First question that comes to my mind id : Why would you want to do that ? |
| 19:00.52 | babilen | Iridos: I mean, what I said is true, your allegations are utter nonsense and I strongly object. </off-topic-not-real-rant> |
| 19:00.53 | yvemath | is* |
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| 19:01.02 | bbd | pittstains: it does not depend on user's environment, file timestamp is handled by system |
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| 19:01.54 | babilen | Raptors: And yes, it might just implode. It won't if you don't install Ubuntu packages though, so adding it and doing nothing with it is fine. (But what's the point of that) |
| 19:02.15 | pittstains | bbd: is it possible the timestamp on the file corresponds to the time the file was originally created on my enemy's machine, and that the timestamp was preserved over the SFTP transfer? |
| 19:02.21 | babilen | Raptors: It is a bad idea, what are you trying to achieve? |
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| 19:03.05 | Raptors | I've been using the ubuntu wine repo with debian for a while. Doesn't seem to have broken my system |
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| 19:03.45 | babilen | yvemath: And yes, ext4 is supported in .32 (has been since .28 IIRC) |
| 19:03.48 | Raptors | I needed to install some ubuntu packages to install the latest version of alarm-clock |
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| 19:05.06 | yvemath | babilen: I see. |
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| 19:06.18 | Iridos | judd, versions alarm-clock |
| 19:06.20 | judd | Package alarm-clock on i386 -- lenny: 0.9.11.2-2; sid: 1.2.5-1; squeeze: 1.2.5-1; wheezy: 1.2.5-1 |
| 19:06.36 | bbd | pittstains: i doubt it. you upload the file and it gets current timestamp unless you have very special sftp setup here |
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| 19:06.56 | babilen | Raptors: It does not mean that it necessarily breaks as soon as you install Ubuntu packages, but I *really* wouldn't do it. Especially not for a package like alarm clock. Compile the package yourself. (/msg dpkg package recompile) or get the software from upstream and install it to /usr/local. stow comes in handy for that (/msg dpkg stow -- /msg dpkg stow usage) |
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| 19:07.14 | pittstains | bbd: then i'm having a hard time explaining how the attacker put the file on my system before he ever logged in... :-/ |
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| 19:07.46 | babilen | Raptors: If the version you want is one listed above you can also backport it from a newer Debian version, such as wheezy or sid. "/msg dpkg ssb" to learn about that |
| 19:07.50 | ttiicc | what's the packages that I need to donwload from aptitude to get virtualbox |
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| 19:08.27 | Raptors | babilen, I'm on sid. It didn't have the latest version that's why I went to get the package. |
| 19:08.29 | babilen | ttiicc: virtualbox-ose is a sane choice. |
| 19:08.33 | babilen | !tell ttiicc about aptitude search |
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| 19:08.46 | ttiicc | okej thanks! |
| 19:08.55 | Iridos | pittstains, easy to explain... magic |
| 19:09.23 | babilen | Raptors: You can get the newest release from upstream and install it locally (see above) or update the package using a mechanism like "uupdate" (surprisingly: /msg dpkg uupdate) |
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| 19:09.35 | babilen | Raptors: The Debian package that is |
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| 19:09.56 | pittstains | Iridos: where can i download the magic package? seems nifty :-D |
| 19:10.19 | Iridos | pittstains, if you have to ask... you can't - it's a well-guarded secret |
| 19:10.34 | babilen | Raptors: See also http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-update.en.html#s-newupstream |
| 19:10.55 | Iridos | pittstains, but actually... ftp/tftp, apache/cgi or apache/php... it's often easier to place a file than to log in |
| 19:11.23 | pittstains | Iridos: what do you mean? |
| 19:11.25 | bbd | pittstains: also you said you have no earlier logs |
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| 19:11.58 | pittstains | bbd: that's true, my logs go back less than a week before the intrusion... |
| 19:13.02 | pittstains | bbd: but on the other hand, my logs do go back more than 5 hours before the intrusion, which was when the file was created... |
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| 19:13.47 | Iridos | pittstains, if the user of the apache webserver has access to the changed file, nobody needs to log in |
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| 19:14.31 | Iridos | pittstains, often badly-written cgi-bin or php scripts can give intruders access... |
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| 19:14.46 | Iridos | (at least to files that the webserver-user can access) |
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| 19:15.04 | bbd | pittstains: we do not know the file, path, user privleges, system setup, services available.. it's difficult to advise. you should get some expert examination of your system if you're really concerned about intrusion |
| 19:15.09 | Iridos | depends on how the webserver is configured, sometimes cgi-bin stuff is also run as the user, if it's a commercial site |
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| 19:16.17 | rioch | I want to install calendarserver on squeeze. The .deb for calendarserver says it depends on >=python2.5; however, when I install it, it tries to install python2.5. Is there a way to prevent this? |
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| 19:17.17 | babilen | ,versions calendarserver |
| 19:17.20 | judd | Package calendarserver on i386 -- lenny: 1.2.dfsg-8; sid: 2.4.dfsg-6; squeeze: 2.4.dfsg-6; wheezy: 2.4.dfsg-6 |
| 19:17.37 | babilen | ,depends calendarserver |
| 19:17.38 | judd | Package calendarserver -- depends: python (>= 2.5), python-central (>= 0.6.11), python-plist, python-kerberos (>= 1.1+svn4241), python-pysqlite2, python-openssl, python-vobject (>= 0.8.1c), python-twisted-calendarserver (>= 8.2.0.svn27622), python-dateutil (>= 1.2), python-xattr, ssl-cert, adduser, lsb-base (>= 3.0-10), memcached (>= 1.2.6). |
| 19:17.56 | Iridos | rioch, it's also depending on a lot of other python stuff, some of which might depend on python2.5 |
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| 19:18.39 | rioch | Iridos: ahhh yes good point. Hmmm. Is it generally ok to have them side by side? |
| 19:18.43 | babilen | Iridos: Well "python" is 2.6.6 in squeeze |
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| 19:18.53 | Iridos | rioch, apt-rdepends calendarserver |
| 19:19.13 | babilen | rioch: It is. Do you install the squeeze package? (like, for example, "aptitude install calendarserver" ?) |
| 19:19.15 | Iridos | rioch, ---> python-twisted-calendarserver and python-zopeinterface depend on python2.5 |
| 19:19.28 | babilen | Iridos: great, hunted it down :) |
| 19:19.32 | Iridos | babilen, that's not what I meant |
| 19:19.51 | Iridos | babilen, although I wonder how some packages can use python2.6 AND python2.5 in one go |
| 19:20.07 | babilen | Iridos: I know exactly what you meant -- the "Well" was probably a bit too negative |
| 19:20.46 | Iridos | babilen, the "not what I meant" was still a reply to <babilen> Iridos: Well "python" is 2.6.6 in squeeze |
| 19:20.50 | Iridos | (sorry for any confusion) |
| 19:20.59 | rioch | Nice find. |
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| 19:21.11 | Iridos | I can multi-task, but not all my answers are within real-time constraints :-P |
| 19:21.14 | rioch | babilen: yes, I typed exactly that command |
| 19:21.34 | pittstains | Iridos: thanks for clarifying... i don't think that's the case here, as i do have an actual log-in from Norway. i understand that CGI and PHP scripts can introduce vulnerabilities, and that's something to monitor whether you've had an intrusion or not... |
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| 19:22.44 | babilen | ,depends python-twisted-calendarserver |
| 19:22.46 | judd | Package python-twisted-calendarserver -- depends: python (>= 2.5), python-central (>= 0.6.11), python2.5, libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), python-zopeinterface. |
| 19:22.50 | pittstains | bbd: thanks for your help (and Iridos too!)... i'm fairly confident the intrusion is limited to the SFTP-only user in question, I'm just puzzled about the timestamps |
| 19:22.52 | babilen | ,versions python-zopeinterface. |
| 19:22.54 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'python-zopeinterface.' was found in i386. |
| 19:22.54 | babilen | ,versions python-zopeinterface |
| 19:22.56 | judd | Package python-zopeinterface on i386 -- lenny: 3.3.1-7 |
| 19:23.10 | babilen | any idea about that ^^^ ? |
| 19:23.12 | Iridos | pittstains, right - but even with an actual login, it is possible that you had an earlier intrusion via some software, which then enabled the intruder after some work to get to log in (or of course he just found a password pinned to a monitor, who knows) |
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| 19:24.14 | babilen | rioch: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=607463 |
| 19:24.24 | pittstains | Iridos: yes, I agree that that's possible, but I think it's more likely that the user was careless with his password... |
| 19:24.51 | pittstains | I guess all I can do is kill the user (um, not in meatspace) and wait for the hacker to prove me wrong |
| 19:25.09 | rioch | babilen: wow, nice. well...at least I'm not alone :) |
| 19:25.12 | Iridos | you could torture him a bit, then kill him :-P |
| 19:25.50 | babilen | I also think the "python-zopinterface" dependency (that package is not in squeeze) might be problematic ... |
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| 19:26.18 | rioch | babilen: maybe I'll just use DAViCal instead :) |
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| 19:26.50 | babilen | The package is called "python-zope.interface" (note the . ) in squeeze |
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| 19:27.26 | rioch | babilen: so I'd need to wait for the package to be updated to fix both those dependencies? |
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| 19:27.54 | geekbri | does anybody know of any nice console based tcpdump visualization? |
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| 19:28.42 | babilen | rioch: I will investigate that further tomorrow and file the necessary bugs, but I wouldn't count on the fixes making it into squeeze anytime soon. |
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| 19:29.29 | babilen | rioch: Can you actually install that package? (if you accept the py2.5) I am a bit bandwith contrained right now, so I can't try this in my squeeze VM |
| 19:30.26 | rioch | babilen: It did install yesterday when I tried it, and started the calendarserver daemon, but that's when I noticed the python2.5 so I removed it all straight away. |
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| 19:31.55 | babilen | rioch: Ok. I'll have a look tomorrow. And yes, you might want to consider a different package .. |
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| 19:31.59 | AthomIk | fucking nvidia overclock !!!! |
| 19:32.27 | rioch | babilen: ok. thanks for your help. |
| 19:32.30 | babilen | AthomIk: Please, no bloody swearing in here |
| 19:32.42 | babilen | hands an equal share to Iridos :) |
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| 19:33.24 | pittstains | Iridos, bbd: damn, you guys are right. this has been going on for longer than my logs indicate... |
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| 19:33.45 | pittstains | i checked my backups and found other similar files |
| 19:34.25 | AthomIk | babilen: is a french reflex :D |
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| 19:35.09 | Fuco | is it safe to put debian 6 on my server? I mean, are there some known compatibility issues with common software packages like apache or mysql? |
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| 19:35.22 | Fuco | We used to run debian 5.0.5 for 3 years now, without any troubles |
| 19:35.29 | Fuco | but I'm not sure what to put on new server |
| 19:35.41 | AthomIk | i plug a disk driver on my pc, is /dev/fd/0 the first ? |
| 19:35.44 | simonrvn | um, it's all taken care of |
| 19:35.47 | abrotman | Fuco: there is a BTS that catalogs known bugs |
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| 19:36.18 | pittstains | Iridos, bbd: still no evidence of escalated privileges anywhere, but it does indicate the problem has been going on for a while |
| 19:36.23 | babilen | Fuco: Squeeze wouldn't have been released if it wasn't fit to be used in production. |
| 19:36.45 | Fuco | babilen: my thoughts exactly, but I wasn't sure :P |
| 19:36.57 | Fuco | some distros are rather destructive after updates ;D |
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| 19:37.28 | jelly-home | Fuco: Debian is among the best when release upgrades are considered |
| 19:37.37 | abrotman | among? |
| 19:37.38 | babilen | Fuco: Are you planning an upgrade of a Lenny system? If so, make sure you read and follow the release notes of Squeeze. |
| 19:37.47 | Fuco | no, clean install |
| 19:37.48 | geekbri | Fuco, Im running squeeze in production and its great. Its about as rock solid as youre going to get. |
| 19:37.51 | babilen | s/among// |
| 19:37.54 | Fuco | we bought new server, so I need to put something there |
| 19:38.11 | Iridos | abrotman, a monk |
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| 19:39.02 | sidro | hi |
| 19:39.16 | sidro | debian testing iso has corupted files |
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| 19:39.25 | abrotman | so use stable |
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| 19:39.54 | sidro | so? must be instalable |
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| 19:40.23 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 19:40.24 | dvs | sidro: testing isos are automated so they may or may not work. |
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| 19:40.45 | simonrvn | it's *testing* |
| 19:40.50 | simonrvn | !testing |
| 19:40.50 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <wheezy>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <squeeze->wheezy> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 19:41.34 | sidro | is stable version automated ? |
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| 19:41.49 | simonrvn | !stable |
| 19:41.49 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or new versions introduced, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Squeeze (6.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the current version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
| 19:41.55 | sidro | i know |
| 19:42.13 | sidro | but how is generated iso |
| 19:42.14 | sidro | ? |
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| 19:42.56 | simonrvn | yes, but it's directly made from the packages in stable, whereas the testing isos aren't |
| 19:43.20 | simonrvn | therefore, it's supposed to work |
| 19:43.33 | blast_hardcheese | What could cause aplay to work while mplayer fails? |
| 19:43.50 | Iridos | huh |
| 19:44.00 | Iridos | so you're not interested why mplayer fails, but why aplayer works? |
| 19:44.54 | blast_hardcheese | I am interested in why mplayer is failing, but I think understanding why one works while the other doesn't would provide greater insight into Linux audio |
| 19:45.29 | Iridos | look for error messages... |
| 19:45.33 | justin_ | blast_hardcheese: read what mplayer outputs when it starts |
| 19:45.54 | Iridos | could be a couple of things not related to either program |
| 19:46.00 | Iridos | or could be mplayer lacking the codec |
| 19:46.01 | blast_hardcheese | justin_: Did that, didn't notice anything abnormal |
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| 19:46.19 | blast_hardcheese | Iridos: Mplayer was playing this file fine a couple days ago |
| 19:46.22 | justin_ | blast_hardcheese: pastebin |
| 19:46.26 | blast_hardcheese | Roger |
| 19:46.47 | Iridos | I guess we're talking about audio-only |
| 19:47.41 | Iridos | try mplayer -ao help, then try the different output plugins that that listed (of course only the ones that make sense) |
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| 19:51.46 | erAbuelo | el sofá me reclama, ta lueg |
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| 19:53.17 | blast_hardcheese | justin_: http://blast.hardchee.se/pnopaste/?76 |
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| 19:54.14 | blast_hardcheese | I'll do the -ao thing, but I haven't had to do anything special before, I've got a ~/.asoundrc set up to handle my soundcard |
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| 19:55.45 | pipeline | Iridos, blast_hardcheese : I believe you need a ~/.libao file to tell libao-using applications which device to play through ? |
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| 19:55.49 | Iridos | aplay will by default use alsa, it's not sure what your mplayer uses... |
| 19:56.09 | Iridos | oss emulation can be blocked while playing directly via alsa still works |
| 19:56.22 | Iridos | you could also strace aplayer/mplayer to see what device it uses |
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| 19:56.31 | justin_ | blast_hardcheese: you're using pulsaaudo output for mplayer |
| 19:56.31 | Iridos | but using -ao alsa // -ao oss will be simpler |
| 19:56.38 | justin_ | blast_hardcheese: which may or may not be outputting to alsa |
| 19:56.49 | pipeline | Iridos, blast_hardcheese : libao never seems to use the default alsa device I select in my asoundrc, I needed a ~/.libao file on my laptop. Dunno why that is. |
| 19:56.56 | blast_hardcheese | justin_: Yeah, I didn't think I was using pulseaudio; What's the builtin software mixer for alsa? |
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| 19:57.05 | justin_ | blast_hardcheese: dmix? |
| 19:57.07 | blast_hardcheese | pipeline: I'll look into that right now |
| 19:57.22 | blast_hardcheese | justin_: Yeah, dmix; I didn't have pulse installed, I was using dmix |
| 19:57.38 | blast_hardcheese | I don't know what depended on pulse |
| 19:57.40 | blast_hardcheese | let's check it out |
| 19:58.00 | Iridos | pipeline, dunno, it sound worked for me for the last years, so I never checked (or cared). I don't doubt, thought that the -ao option of mplayer does what it says it does (until there is reason to doubt so) |
| 19:58.05 | justin_ | pulse is nice, at least if you have funny hardware |
| 19:58.11 | pipeline | blast_hardcheese: unfortunately my laptop isn't nearby or else I would just paste you the file contents... it was like two lines. device_driver=alsa and then another line for options to the alsa driver. |
| 19:58.15 | justin_ | I have a usb headset at work, pulseaudio makes things work nice |
| 19:58.24 | Iridos | pulse would be nice if all the programs you used would work with it |
| 19:58.58 | justin_ | blast_hardcheese: try running gnome-volume-control.pulse if you have it |
| 19:59.01 | blast_hardcheese | This is such a confusing area, there are so many sound drivers that support different things |
| 19:59.03 | pipeline | Iridos: selecting -ao alsa just tells libao to use alsa, doesn't change libao's behaviour with respect to choosing the correct device. For reasons unknown to me, libao doesn't use the default alsa pcm output, it picks one on its own. |
| 19:59.07 | justin_ | pavucontrol is nice too |
| 19:59.09 | blast_hardcheese | justin_: I'll see if I have it |
| 19:59.17 | justin_ | blast_hardcheese: no, there is only alsa |
| 19:59.33 | blast_hardcheese | pipeline: That worked. |
| 19:59.34 | blast_hardcheese | Wow |
| 19:59.41 | blast_hardcheese | Alright, time to purge pulse. |
| 19:59.47 | pipeline | blast_hardcheese: yep it pretty much sucks. The only REAL standard for this shit is OSS.... but OSS is its own giant bucket of shit. It's easier to fight with a sound server or alsa config than to deal with building your OSS kernel modules every time you update the kernel :P |
| 20:00.19 | blast_hardcheese | OH! |
| 20:00.30 | blast_hardcheese | Goddamit, e16 depends on pulse. |
| 20:00.43 | blast_hardcheese | purge e16. |
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| 20:01.48 | Iridos | pipeline, strange... ok, I never checked on it... |
| 20:01.54 | blast_hardcheese | That's what I get for aptitude install '?provides(x-window-manager)' |
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| 20:02.28 | Iridos | there's also the aoss wrapper to force use of the alsa device/interface |
| 20:02.32 | pipeline | Iridos: it's extremely strange, since the alsa api is super complicated and picking the default pcm out is the path of least resistance... it's like they went out of their way to piss me off ;) |
| 20:02.50 | peterrooney | blast_hardcheese: since when does e16 depend on pulse? |
| 20:04.08 | blast_hardcheese | peterrooney: On further inspection, I have recommends install; e16 /recommends/ esound, which ends up depending on pulse. |
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| 20:07.28 | peterrooney | blast_hardcheese: true. do most people have --with-reccommends turned on? |
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| 20:10.45 | jelly-home | peterrooney: it's the default |
| 20:10.50 | ZeroChaos | I need a debian stable test environment so I can test a few things. Is there a livecd or something that I can use? |
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| 20:11.07 | abrotman | live.debian.net |
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| 20:12.01 | ZeroChaos | abrotman: if I basically need a fully functional kernel and ethtool (package manager would be nice in case of emergency) would the user one work for me? |
| 20:12.17 | abrotman | the user one? |
| 20:12.36 | ZeroChaos | there are links to user and development |
| 20:13.19 | {^KinG^} | http://paste.debian.net/110413/ |
| 20:13.24 | {^KinG^} | any one have idea ? |
| 20:13.26 | ZeroChaos | and assuming I don't need X I'm guessing that standard works? |
| 20:14.26 | l00ny | if you know the needed packages well you might compile a sys at suse-studio.. this is really fast but ot debian .. but you can choose as said all versions that you find fitting |
| 20:15.22 | l00ny | so if you choose the versions in debian you might get a tight own distribution |
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| 20:16.55 | l00ny | i tried this for a distro for quadro-gfx card fitted workstations went ok after some tries |
| 20:16.57 | ZeroChaos | I'll try with standard and if it doesn't meet my needs I can download a bigger one later. thanks for the help |
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| 20:17.52 | skrewler | i have a package I want aptitude to basically ignore, as I've done a bunch of crap to it and upgrading will break it. how can i do this? |
| 20:18.07 | nkuttler | !tell skrewler about hold |
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| 20:19.58 | skrewler | that didn't work. i guess because the package in question is in the state 'partially installed' |
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| 20:20.39 | skrewler | is there a way to change the state manualy and make aptitude just leave it alone |
| 20:21.22 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: if it's partially installed, you need to have it finished being installed |
| 20:21.29 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: it's not aptitude that is playing with it, it's dpkg. |
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| 20:24.01 | skrewler | i see. okay. well, this is a production system and the package is actually installed, and running, (it's sphinx), so.. i just want to get rid of these error messages constantly coming up and make sure it doesn't break when doing an upgrade. |
| 20:24.12 | skrewler | is aptitude keep-all what i want? |
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| 20:31.36 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: no |
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| 20:31.43 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: what's the exact error message you're getting? |
| 20:32.02 | dondelelcaro | (and is this sphinxsearch?) |
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| 20:32.47 | skrewler | The following partially installed packages will be configured: |
| 20:32.48 | skrewler | .... fatail failed to lock pid ... action start failed ... error processing sphinxsearch .. subprrocess installed post-install returned error exit status 1 |
| 20:32.49 | skrewler | yeah |
| 20:32.53 | aum | is it just me who finds that libgnashplayer.so is a CPOS? |
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| 20:33.06 | skrewler | sphinx is running, working, and i dont want dpkg or aptitude to mess with it |
| 20:33.29 | skrewler | one sec, switching to wifi.. |
| 20:33.31 | pipeline | aum: solution: live without flash because it is terrible |
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| 20:33.54 | aum | pipeline: there are a lot of sites i regularly use which need flash |
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| 20:34.18 | pipeline | aum: stop visiting them |
| 20:34.28 | pipeline | aum: they'll get the message. or not. In any case, your problem will be solved. |
| 20:35.01 | skrewler_ | okay, back if someone said something about my issue.. |
| 20:35.11 | dondelelcaro | skrewler_: can you give me the full output? |
| 20:36.00 | skrewler | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.us/2429 |
| 20:36.20 | justin_ | aum: try lightspark? |
| 20:36.30 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: right, so the problem you've got is that sphinx is already running, and the configuration script doesn't expect it to be |
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| 20:37.25 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: anyway, edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/sphinxsearch.postinst, and to the line that says something like invoke-rc.d sphinxsearch start append '|| true'; |
| 20:37.36 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: then run dpkg --configure -a; |
| 20:37.51 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: if that still errors out, give me the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/spinxsearch.postinst using a paste site |
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| 20:40.10 | dondelelcaro | normally, if this wasn't a production server, you'd just stop sphinxsearch and then let the postinst start it, but it really shouldn't be erroring out if the daemon is already running |
| 20:40.18 | skrewler | dondelelcaro: to be clear, do i want to replace || exit $? with true, or add || true |
| 20:41.01 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: replace the '|| exit $?' with '|| true' |
| 20:41.25 | dondelelcaro | (it wouldn't get to the || true if you had || exit there) |
| 20:41.45 | skrewler | yeah. thats what i thought. but that didn't fix it so i figured i'd ask=/ |
| 20:41.50 | skrewler | getting you that paste |
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| 20:42.33 | blast_hardcheese | What's with this chromium package rename? |
| 20:42.43 | blast_hardcheese | Now chromium-browser is depending on a game |
| 20:42.52 | skrewler | oh, wait, nevermind. i changed the 'else; /etc/init.d/... start line as well, and it fixed it |
| 20:42.57 | skrewler | thanks a bunch dondelelcaro! |
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| 20:44.40 | aum | used to be a F/OSS Nazi, but today has just removed libgnashplayer and installed the pr*pr**tary ad**e flashplayer |
| 20:44.55 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: oh... you don't have invoke-rc.d installed? what verison of Debian is this? |
| 20:45.16 | dondelelcaro | skrewler: but anyway, when something doesn't configure, you have to fix why it's not configuring |
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| 20:45.20 | jelly-home | aum: your keyboard seems to be misbehaving |
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| 20:45.29 | blast_hardcheese | aum: How unfortunate |
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| 20:47.56 | skrewler | dondelelcaro: roger that. good to know about this /var/lib/dpkg structure. didn't know about it before |
| 20:48.01 | blast_hardcheese | Oh, chromium was renamed in sid |
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| 21:10.56 | chomwitt | trying to install mariadb in squeeze+kde from an external repository aptitude reports an conflict with mysql-server-core. Can i remove mysql-server-core ? |
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| 21:14.07 | simonrvn | if you do sch things, you should be able to figure that out.... |
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| 21:18.11 | Bushmills | mysql* is purely optional |
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| 21:19.38 | lousie | So... My computer just had a kernel panic making me do a forced reboot, now it hangs at boot right when it's bringing the network up. I can get a shell with "init=/bin/bash" but I haven't the slightest where to go from there. help? |
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| 21:21.26 | Bushmills | lousie: try to boot a live cd, see whether similar probems show then too |
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| 21:24.14 | lousie | Bushmills: I've booted from a seperate (netbsd) partition with no trouble and it seems I can mount both the root and other partitions of the debian install. (though fsck isn't on my side today... (my netbsd fu is a bit to weak...)) |
| 21:25.00 | Bushmills | then it does not appear to be a hardware problem |
| 21:25.35 | lousie | Bushmills: Indeed, thusly: I'm here! |
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| 21:29.06 | lousie | It also seems syslog (and the kernel log is spammed with network messages, making it hard do find the relevant data... Any ideas what/where to grep after a boot failure suck as this? |
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| 21:30.31 | Bushmills | lousie: do the opposite: successively eliminate those log file entries which are not relevant to the problem. |
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| 21:32.57 | lousie | Bushmills: Thanks! I'll try to get back with some answers, do you think the original kernel panic is related to this? (I really am on a bit thinner ice here then usual, debian has always "just worked" great for me...) |
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| 21:33.45 | Bushmills | can't really say, without further examination |
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| 21:40.49 | lousie | Bushmills: I have had no succes with the logs (there doesn't seem to be any mention of neither the original panic nor the boot which failed) but it seems that the device names are fubar... fstab and grub uses labels but "mount" claims sda2 is the debian root when in fact it's sdc2 (wich is what is really mounted on /...) wtf? |
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| 21:41.07 | lousie | *boot*s* |
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| 21:42.26 | Bushmills | your sda is broken, and sdc became sda |
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| 21:45.37 | lousie | Bushmills: What used to be sda is what I'm booting netbsd from and since that works fine, besides isn't it supposed to be labels everywhere by now? (so that neither sda nor sdc is used for anything during boot?) |
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| 21:46.24 | Bushmills | no. volume id is what grub and fstab are leaning towards, not labels. |
| 21:46.40 | lousie | sorry, that is what I meant. |
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| 21:47.13 | lousie | Bushmills: so there should be no issue with whats mounted where with a modern debian system. |
| 21:47.22 | lousie | Bushmills: (running testing here.) |
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| 21:47.42 | Bushmills | that's right |
| 21:50.26 | lousie | Bushmills: what?! I commented out everything that isn't / in fstab and now it boots! this is great, and I have no idea why or how it works... |
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| 22:03.39 | kingsley | How would you try to tweak a text application to allow long output lines? |
| 22:04.00 | Bushmills | kingsley: turn off autowrap |
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| 22:04.46 | kingsley | searches Google's indices for "autowrap" and the names of the application(s). |
| 22:05.57 | Technicus | Hello . . . what is the process for configuring a Debian system so that it can play DVD's through VLC? |
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| 22:06.49 | bio-tty | hi. my network manager app disapeared from the tool |
| 22:06.50 | lousie | Bushmills: Thanks for your help! things seems back to normal with a fsck and reboot... I might have some google to pursue. |
| 22:07.10 | bio-tty | bar. i see nm-app is running, but the icon on the toolbar is gone. |
| 22:07.49 | bio-tty | i need it to enable a vpn. i am talking about the network manager app icon on the tool bar. it disapeared |
| 22:08.00 | lousie | Technicus: it should just work (I think) did you install vlc using apt or some other, stranger way? |
| 22:08.09 | bio-tty | how can i get it back? (i do not see it in the add app menu) |
| 22:08.54 | CyberGabber | Can't you just enter in a terminal: nm-applet |
| 22:09.45 | kingsley | Bushmills: I thought your suggestion was reasonable, and searched Google's indices for it. FWIW, I found no match. |
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| 22:10.19 | Bushmills | strange. "autowrap text" yields many hits |
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| 22:10.43 | Bushmills | but no match at all, that's very exceptional indeed |
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| 22:11.04 | Bushmills | maybe google has blacklisted you_ |
| 22:11.25 | kingsley | Bushmills: Perhaps I should have written no *helpful* match. There were a few false positives. |
| 22:12.12 | Technicus | lousie: Thank you :) |
| 22:12.24 | Bushmills | kingsley: re-read your question: "(23:03:39) kingsley: How would you try to tweak a text application to allow long output lines?" - what i answered is what i would do. |
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| 22:13.14 | lousie | Technicus: for asking how you installed vlc? No problem dude. I could do that all day. |
| 22:13.15 | Bushmills | i didn't consider your lack of google-fu when answering |
| 22:13.32 | kingsley | Bushmills: Fair enough. |
| 22:14.15 | Bushmills | nor what you consider "helpful" or not. how should i know what you consider helpful and what not? |
| 22:14.32 | kingsley | Bushmills: It seems that the particular applications that I'm interested in do not document "autowrap". |
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| 22:14.59 | Bushmills | but - in order to "tweak" an app to allow long lines, i'd turn off autowrap. also called word wrap. |
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| 22:15.27 | Bushmills | is simple, no? |
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| 22:15.49 | [newbie] | hi. i use aptitude to install everything. i upgrade to squeeze from apt-get becourse aptitude: open: 551; closed: 20165; defer: 19041; conflict: 35 .... how can i fix that?thx |
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| 22:16.24 | kingsley | Bushmills: That's a good idea. I'll ask Google's indices if the documentation for these applications includes the string "word wrap". |
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| 22:17.15 | Bushmills | hope you get more hits than none this time |
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| 22:34.51 | karlpinc | [newbie]: |
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| 22:35.05 | [newbie] | yes? |
| 22:35.07 | karlpinc | [newbie]: To upgrade to squeeze you should follow the instructions in the release notes. |
| 22:35.24 | karlpinc | !lenny->squeeze |
| 22:35.34 | mactimes | Hi there. How do I set display configuration equivalent to 'vga=' kernel parameter in /etc/default/grub in Squeeze? |
| 22:35.41 | [newbie] | thanks |
| 22:35.41 | karlpinc | (Humm. Bot seems broken.) |
| 22:35.59 | Tramp | dpkg, lenny->squeeze |
| 22:35.59 | dpkg | Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <squeeze release notes>. |
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| 22:40.50 | babilen | mactimes: /etc/default/grub -- check GRUB_GFXMODE |
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| 22:41.18 | babilen | karlpinc: ! does not work with -> (don't ask why) |
| 22:41.51 | [newbie] | ok getting 949MB of archive xd |
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| 22:42.43 | [newbie] | we'll see |
| 22:42.45 | mactimes | babilen, It's not GRUB menu screen mode what I want to configure. If I set GRUB_GFXMODE it only changes grub menu resolution, but once the kernel loads and the system is running, it switches back to whatever tty resolution the default one is. |
| 22:42.46 | babilen | [newbie]: You are a fast reader! ;) I would recommend to read the "What's new in Squeeze" and chapter 4 in the release notes |
| 22:43.35 | [newbie] | I'am fast :) I'am experimental user xd |
| 22:43.43 | RobotCow | I am looking at debian.org. It says I can do a netinstall from a usb disc. I look for instructions on how to do that, and I don't see any. I found something on the a debian wiki, but its severely outdated. |
| 22:43.54 | RobotCow | !usb |
| 22:43.54 | dpkg | [usb] (Universal Serial Bus) A technology that has replaced the way that some peripheral devices connect to a computer. It is much faster than serial and parallel communications. It is also much more flexible: many devices can be connected to simultaneously. USB 3.0 is supported by the Linux kernel since 2.6.31. http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html http://www.linux-usb.org/ See also <usb install>, <usbreset>. |
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| 22:44.20 | babilen | mactimes: Ah, yes. Take a look at info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' â GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX and if that doesn't work you can set the vga parameter in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX section. |
| 22:44.21 | [newbie] | babilen any suggest? |
| 22:44.33 | RobotCow | _Zer0_ -> watch this |
| 22:44.36 | RobotCow | !usb install |
| 22:44.36 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 22:44.41 | _Zer0_ | i'm watching |
| 22:45.03 | babilen | [newbie]: suggestion whatfor? |
| 22:45.04 | RobotCow | _Zer0_ -> ok look what dpkg bot said |
| 22:45.14 | hartzie | hey guys does someone know what exactly the kipmi0 process is? |
| 22:45.43 | mactimes | babilen, I'll check that. Someone at #grub told me to use 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet vga=xx"', but although it shows me some messages on boot screen, it doesn't really change anything |
| 22:45.55 | RobotCow | _Zer0_ -> use windows to prepare the usb for ease and faster? |
| 22:46.19 | ZykoticK9 | mactimes, i'm under the impression that vga= lines are deprecated in newer linux kernels |
| 22:46.30 | _Zer0_ | RobotCow -> i do not have windows ... |
| 22:46.42 | RobotCow | _Zer0_ -> ok then forget that idea |
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| 22:46.58 | mactimes | ZykoticK9, Yeah, I think so, as per the results I'm getting, but maybe that's lacking some docs on it. |
| 22:47.18 | RobotCow | _Zer0_ -> does your bios support booting from a usb device? |
| 22:47.29 | _Zer0_ | RobotCow -> yes |
| 22:47.42 | RobotCow | _Zer0_ -> good, so you need debian netinstall for current testing |
| 22:47.51 | _Zer0_ | yes |
| 22:48.00 | babilen | mactimes: The difference between GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX is that _DEFAULT will also be appended to the kernel line for the recovery mode. I wouldn't necessarily append it to the recovery mode too, hence my suggestion for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX |
| 22:48.02 | RobotCow | _Zer0_ -> and backup of tomboy first |
| 22:48.19 | _Zer0_ | robotCow -> backup done |
| 22:48.44 | RobotCow | _Zer0_ -> you do not need gui to prepare the usb |
| 22:48.51 | ZykoticK9 | mactimes, you might need to add "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep" in addition to your "GRUB_GFXMODE=..." line. I'm really not sure though. Best of luck. |
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| 22:49.19 | mactimes | babilen, Right. Thank you very much. I'll read the manpage you sent me and run some tests to see what I can do. ZykoticK9 Thank you too.. |
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| 22:49.38 | _Zer0_ | RobotCow -> i know. |
| 22:50.05 | babilen | mactimes: Sorry, haven't played with vga= in a while, because I am quite happy to use the default resolution with KMS on my device. AFAIU it you should set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX to "keep" in order to preserve the graphics mode set in GRUB_GFXMODE |
| 22:50.15 | cusco | just so you know, i have used unetbootin in the past to create a usb debian net install |
| 22:50.46 | babilen | mactimes: Good luck, I would appreciate some feedback on your findings as my suggestion just stem from reading the documentation. :) |
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| 22:51.07 | _Zer0_ | RobotCow -> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/ right? |
| 22:51.13 | mactimes | babilen, Sure. I'l read the doc material and run some tests. I'll come back with the results. |
| 22:51.24 | babilen | mactimes: Much appreciated. Good luck! |
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| 22:51.30 | mactimes | babilen, Thank you. |
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| 22:52.48 | Mad-Scientist | http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content/gallery/7submarine/04.jpg |
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| 22:55.21 | Simon14 | Hi, I'm trying to install Debian 6.0.0 net install and it's hung up on "Retrieving file 1 of 1" any suggestions? |
| 22:56.49 | babilen | Mad-Scientist: I don't think this is of any interested or on-topic in here. Please refrain from posting random links to this channel. Thank you! |
| 22:57.27 | Mad-Scientist | remembers about #debian-offtopic |
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| 22:59.51 | babilen | Simon14: Anything on the other consoles? |
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| 23:03.42 | Simon14 | babilen: Nothing that I've started |
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| 23:05.36 | Simon14 | babilen: Alt+F4 is displaying some messages from the kernel |
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| 23:06.48 | Simon14 | Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1147551 |
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| 23:07.46 | Simon14 | Weird, after over 30mins of it sitting on the "Retrieving file 1 of 1" it continued on... |
| 23:07.51 | babilen | Simon14: That is an I/O error while readin from the CD. You might want to try a different blank and burn it again. |
| 23:08.11 | babilen | Or let the drive figure it out eventually :) |
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| 23:08.50 | Simon14 | Do you think it's fine if it was able to continue on? I burned the DVD on windows and it said it verified the burn :/ |
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| 23:11.45 | babilen | Simon14: Sure, the packages in question are checked for their integrity. Looks as if it just took quite a while to read the file from disk. |
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| 23:12.29 | Simon14 | It's stuck again on the same thing |
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| 23:13.45 | Simon14 | Well a different file, I selected "Standard" and it go to 101 of 112 and is displaying the exact same error. |
| 23:15.37 | babilen | Simon14: Well, wait it out or follow the suggestion I gave earlier. |
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| 23:16.04 | g00se | Any idea why wordpress doesn't depend on mysql-server? |
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| 23:16.39 | Simon14 | babilen: What would happen if I were to eject the disc and put it back in? |
| 23:17.01 | Bushmills | Simon, you'd have increased entropy by a tiny bit |
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| 23:17.35 | shizuo | Stop the bashing of black people |
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| 23:20.09 | babilen | g00se: Because the server could be on another host maybe? |
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| 23:21.14 | babilen | g00se: It is a suggests -- Hence mysql-server is not needed to get wordpress running. |
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| 23:22.39 | g00se | babilen: Hmm. I thought it *was* needed ... |
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| 23:23.12 | g00se | babilen: Poss your first suggestion makes sense |
| 23:23.35 | babilen | g00se: As I said: You might be able to use a MySQL server installed on a different host. I don't know enough about wordpress to verify or falsify that "gut feeling" though |
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| 23:24.55 | babilen | If that would indeed be the case a "Depends" would be too strong, as that would prevent you to install wordpress without installing the server as well. Even that is not needed for this particular setup. |
| 23:24.55 | y7 | anybody know how i can resolve this so i can install sendmail: The following packages have unmet dependencies: sendmail : Depends: sendmail-bin but it is not going to be installed |
| 23:25.07 | babilen | !tell y7 -about bat |
| 23:25.12 | y7 | thx |
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| 23:25.52 | Talon_ | I'm trying to install debian squeeze 6.0 on my computer, and no matter what i do, it freezes in the same spot saying "detect network hardware", is there some way to skip that so i can get around it? |
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| 23:26.53 | wolfric | i went to install virtualbox and got this. Why on earth does virtualbox-ose depend on all this http://pastebin.com/w22crTWq |
| 23:27.02 | ZykoticK9 | Talon_, you're probably not, but if you are using the netinstall the answer is no. for the regular cd, i'm unaware. |
| 23:27.40 | Talon_ | yea i downloaded the regular cd-1 |
| 23:28.00 | y7 | babilen, here ya go: http://pastebin.com/ZvnzpFEL |
| 23:28.29 | Talon_ | both the amd64 and the 32bit, 32bit worked fine, im on this laptop on 32bit, just decided to get my pc converted now and 64bit version won't make it past network hardware |
| 23:29.45 | lousie | Talon_: Interesting things on on console 4? (or can you even get there?) |
| 23:30.08 | Talon_ | lemme try again |
| 23:30.13 | bluegene | how can i prevent aptitude from installing apache when trying to install php5-ldap? |
| 23:30.13 | babilen | y7: Hmm :-\ -- What about "apt-cache policy sendmail-bin" ? |
| 23:30.19 | babilen | ,versions sendmail-bin --arch amd64 |
| 23:30.19 | judd | Package sendmail-bin on amd64 -- lenny: 8.14.3-5+lenny1; lenny-security: 8.14.3-5+lenny1; squeeze: 8.14.3-9.4; sid: 8.14.4-2; wheezy: 8.14.4-2 |
| 23:30.27 | Talon_ | should i do install or graphic install |
| 23:30.44 | Talon_ | it only takes a sec for it to fail so... lol |
| 23:30.51 | lousie | Talon_: Also I think you might use the "expert install" to actually skip steps... but i'm not certain. |
| 23:30.59 | y7 | babilen: http://pastebin.com/fhqjw64q |
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| 23:31.22 | Talon_ | attempting graphical expert install |
| 23:31.37 | lousie | crosses fingers a bit. |
| 23:31.47 | dutchfish | hi, debian-live-rescue cd; dhcp client does not find a dhcp server; is this is known issue? restarting the dhcp client service does work. |
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| 23:32.20 | babilen | y7: Weird. Could you remove the CD from your sources.list, run "aptitude update" and then "aptitude install sendmail" before we investigate this further please? |
| 23:32.58 | y7 | sure, gimme a second. thx again for the help |
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| 23:33.34 | babilen | bluegene: May I see the output of "aptitude -s install php5-ldap" please? |
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| 23:35.13 | Talon_ | GRR :/ |
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| 23:35.55 | lousie | Talon_: no luck presume? And it's a complete freeze? |
| 23:35.56 | y7 | babilen.... success. thanks for the help.... the CD I disabled is the ISO installed in my cdrom, correct? |
| 23:36.12 | lousie | Talon_: *I presume... |
| 23:36.33 | y7 | ISO install disc* |
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| 23:38.56 | babilen | y7: Yes, exactly. May you have a good night and enjoy the hours of sendmail configuration fun that await you. (why not exim4 (just curious)) |
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| 23:40.09 | y7 | babilen, i was told if i wanted to setup multiple domains for email that exim4 wasn't capable |
| 23:41.32 | Simon14 | So I re-burnt the DVD and it still failed so I'm guessing the download was corrupted somehow? Very irritating |
| 23:41.48 | babilen | y7: that is not true. You might want to venture over to #exim4 or have a look at: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-3.20/doc/html/spec_43.html (for example) |
| 23:42.11 | babilen | y7: Ah, it is #exim not #exim4 |
| 23:42.46 | lousie | Talon_: if you switch to VT4 *before* the freeze maybe you could spot the issue in more detail. what network card(s) does the box have? |
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| 23:43.07 | y7 | babilen, roger that. i'll give it a look. thanks for the help :) |
| 23:43.49 | babilen | y7: ah, that documentation I linked is outdated (3.20) you should be able to find information on that in the recent one too though :) |
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| 23:44.50 | babilen | !tell Simon14 -about check cd image |
| 23:44.51 | y7 | awesome. thanks for saving me the hassle with sendmail... i was hoping to use exim |
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| 23:46.31 | babilen | y7: Have fun with exim then. http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch47.html â 7. Virtual domains |
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| 23:48.23 | powit | Hi |
| 23:48.40 | Simon14 | babilen: Yeah, i checked the checksum for what I downloaded it was off.. so I just downloaded again - from the torrent and i get the exact same checksum from before (but still wrong) |
| 23:49.05 | Simon14 | Unless of course the checksum itself is wrong |
| 23:50.36 | babilen | Simon14: Hmm, I am a bit bandwith constrained so I can't verify that now. You might want to try a different download method and/or different image. The netinstall or businesscard if you have a working (wired) internet connection during the installation. |
| 23:50.54 | powit | Hi, somebody know any product for tcp load balancing? I woudl like test someone |
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| 23:51.37 | babilen | Simon14: I haven't heard any complaints about the checksums so far, so I doubt that the checksum reported on the mirrors (MD5SUM) is wrong. But *shrug* you might actually be the first to test it ;) |
| 23:52.09 | Simon14 | I'm trying a different md5 checksum |
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| 23:57.40 | shizuo | Stop the bashing of black people |
| 23:57.51 | Simon14 | babilen: Never mind, the image i downloaded is correct |
| 23:58.21 | babilen | Simon14: the one you burned earlier or one you just downloaded? |
| 23:58.34 | Simon14 | The one I downloaded is good |
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| 23:58.55 | Simon14 | I re-burned it and I was still getting the sr0 error |
| 23:58.55 | babilen | Simon14: Might be your drive or blank then. |
| 23:58.57 | sdnalanis_ | i have question |
| 23:59.10 | babilen | sdnalanis_: Please, ask it then :) |
| 23:59.53 | Simon14 | babilen: I'm not sure.. I just burnt and installed 5.08 with no problems |
| 23:59.55 | sdnalanis_ | is there a "all users" floder that all users can write to and read from? if not how tocreate one? |
