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| 00:04.18 | ug768 | guys, noob here. How should I edit debian/rules to remove a particular directory that is generated by the build? |
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| 00:06.05 | Delf | No time, no end :) |
| 00:06.58 | peterrooney | joeb_: more importantly, you now know that debian can define what happens when ctrl-alt-del is hit |
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| 00:08.28 | ZitZ | hello |
| 00:10.01 | ZitZ | so, i'm using xbmc from the multimedia repos, and it's compiled to use external ffmpeg libraries, but theora videos fail to play, so where should I be reporting the bug to? |
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| 00:11.02 | ug768 | ZitZ: I am not a regular on these forums, but the version of ffmpeg included in squeeze is broken with respect to theora videos. |
| 00:11.10 | ug768 | *irc |
| 00:12.06 | ZitZ | ug768: thanks for the info, i am using ffmpeg from sid in the multimedia repo, but it's nice to know that |
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| 00:13.39 | ug768 | ZitZ: you can try to build the latest ffmpeg for yourself (there are a few guides). But I tried to do it this morning and did not succeed |
| 00:14.31 | ZitZ | yeah, i can imagine building ffmpeg from scratch wouldn't be easy, why were you trying to do it? |
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| 00:20.14 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions ffmpeg |
| 00:20.17 | judd | Package ffmpeg on i386 -- lenny: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny1; lenny-security: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny3; lenny-multimedia: 3:20070329-0.0etch1; squeeze: 4:0.5.2-6; sid: 4:0.6.1-5; wheezy: 4:0.6.1-5; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2; wheezy-multimedia: 5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2; sid-multimedia: 5:0.6.1+svn20110308-0.0 |
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| 00:21.06 | jhutchins_lt | ZitZ: What you should probably do is determine if the official debian packages have the same bug. If so, report to Debian. If not, I think Christian has a bug reporting channel, or you can just email him. |
| 00:21.40 | jhutchins_lt | ZitZ: Since you are using sid, you are under some obligation to make an effort to report problems. |
| 00:21.54 | ZitZ | yeah, that's what I think I'll do (report to christian), I'm encoding into theora now, and ffmpeg works fine |
| 00:22.13 | ZitZ | (it works for encoding, still doesn't work in xbmc that is) |
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| 00:22.37 | craigevil | like jhutchins says try the Debian version in sid, if it works email Christian, might be a bug with xbmc rather than ffmpeg |
| 00:23.25 | ZitZ | if the version from plain sid worked, wouldn't that be a bug in ffmpeg from the multimedia repo? |
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| 00:24.22 | craigevil | yes |
| 00:26.01 | Delf | How often do the Debian packages update? I tried to install mumble-server and I got a old version :/ |
| 00:26.42 | dvs | Delf: depends on the Debian version |
| 00:27.14 | Delf | I'm using Squeeze (6.*) |
| 00:27.47 | Delf | Also, it is not listen in backports for Squeeze. |
| 00:28.06 | dvs | Delf: Unless someone backports it, it won't be upgraded. |
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| 00:31.06 | rubin110 | How do I remove orphand dependancies? |
| 00:31.36 | ZitZ | hi again, is there a way to make apt go to lower versions of a package, i'm trying to go to a lower version of ffmpeg, but all the dependencies are from the newer version in debian multimedia |
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| 00:31.42 | streuner_ | dpkg, deborphan |
| 00:31.42 | dpkg | deborphan is a package that will tell you what library packages you have installed that nothing's using. If you want remove all packages use 'deborphan | xargs apt-get -y remove --purge', or a nice tool to clean up grown debians. http://tinyurl.com/jukag provides a nice guide to several more steps to reclaim big chunks of HDD. Ask me about <debfoster><autoremove><unmarkauto>. |
| 00:31.54 | simonrvn | ah, dpkg is back |
| 00:31.57 | simonrvn | !wb |
| 00:31.57 | dpkg | thanks, simonrvn. It's good to be back. |
| 00:31.57 | ZitZ | rubin110: you can use deborphan, there is also apt-get autoremove |
| 00:32.41 | simonrvn | packagename=fullversion |
| 00:33.03 | simonrvn | not directly, no |
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| 00:33.24 | simonrvn | up to you to resolve deps |
| 00:33.44 | derelm | i'am trying to setup xen - dom0 works, domU runs but my xen-default bridge networking doesn't seem to work. host and guest can reach each other but i cannot reach guest from outside and cannot reach world from within guest. |
| 00:34.08 | simonrvn | !bridging |
| 00:34.08 | dpkg | Bridges link two or more network segments using the same network technology. The network topologies do not have to be the same, i.e. you can bridge Ethernet and Token Ring. If the protocols are not the same on segments, then you've got a router. Bridges are used to reduce network traffic, increase cable distance (by acting as a repeater) and to link dissimilar topologies with the same network protocol. Ask me about <bridge setup>. |
| 00:34.27 | JaMeSiTeGeN | Hello debian peoples, I've been sent here to ask about how I can get firefox-4.0rc1 (from mozilla.org) to run. Linux-Mint--Debian-testing in use and when I run `./firefox` I get `exec: 398: ./firefox-bin: not found` so I ran `file firefox-bin` and got `firefox-bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped` Any ideas? |
| 00:34.57 | streuner_ | JaMeSiTeGeN: /msg dpkg mint |
| 00:35.42 | JaMeSiTeGeN | lol, grr |
| 00:35.48 | craigevil | firefox 4 works just fine, all i do is extract then create shortcut firefox on my desktop |
| 00:36.31 | JaMeSiTeGeN | craigevil: Humm, Why can't I get it to work? |
| 00:37.47 | JaMeSiTeGeN | /msg dpkg based on debian |
| 00:37.52 | JaMeSiTeGeN | Evil dpkg bot |
| 00:38.12 | JaMeSiTeGeN | dpkg mint |
| 00:38.12 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also being available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>. |
| 00:38.27 | JaMeSiTeGeN | dpkg testing |
| 00:38.27 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <wheezy>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <squeeze->wheezy> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 00:38.45 | JaMeSiTeGeN | dpkg based on debian |
| 00:38.45 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 00:38.58 | streuner_ | JaMeSiTeGeN: please stop spam us |
| 00:39.17 | streuner_ | JaMeSiTeGeN: just use /msg dpkg <factoid> instead |
| 00:39.19 | JaMeSiTeGeN | oupps, I thought I was still in a query with dpkg :) |
| 00:40.39 | craigevil | JaMeSiTeGeN: um because Mint isnt Debian :) Iceweasel 4.0~rc1-1 is shiny but breaks too many of the extensions that I rely on |
| 00:41.32 | JaMeSiTeGeN | craigevil: Are you saying that iceweasel 4.0-rc1-1 is firefox-4.0rc1 ?? |
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| 00:42.34 | craigevil | yep, http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 00:43.15 | JaMeSiTeGeN | aptitude search iceweasel | grep 4; # returns nothing. |
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| 00:43.50 | dvs | ,versions iceweasel |
| 00:43.51 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.16-4~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.5.16-4; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-5; sid: 3.5.17-1; wheezy: 3.5.17-1; experimental: 4.0~rc1-1 |
| 00:43.59 | JaMeSiTeGeN | aptitude show iceweasel | grep version |
| 00:44.18 | JaMeSiTeGeN | Version: 3.5.16-4 |
| 00:44.32 | ug768 | where is lintian complaining about when it spits out "source: source-contains-prebuilt-binary" |
| 00:44.39 | JaMeSiTeGeN | how do I get the newer versions? |
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| 00:45.21 | craigevil | iceweasel: Installed: 4.0~rc1-1 |
| 00:45.35 | craigevil | follow the directions on http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 00:45.47 | JaMeSiTeGeN | dvs: " versions iceweasel" What do you mean by this? |
| 00:46.14 | JaMeSiTeGeN | oh a bot |
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| 00:46.35 | JaMeSiTeGeN | How do I pull one package from experimental? |
| 00:46.41 | JaMeSiTeGeN | ,help |
| 00:46.42 | judd | (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 00:47.44 | joeb_ | ha |
| 00:47.46 | joeb_ | ,help |
| 00:47.46 | judd | (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 00:47.49 | joeb_ | !help |
| 00:47.57 | joeb_ | wierd |
| 00:48.13 | JaMeSiTeGeN | , is strange for a bot to listen on, yes |
| 00:48.21 | JaMeSiTeGeN | ,lol |
| 00:48.25 | JaMeSiTeGeN | oh |
| 00:48.36 | JaMeSiTeGeN | ,help version |
| 00:48.36 | judd | (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 00:48.46 | JaMeSiTeGeN | ,help versions |
| 00:48.47 | judd | (versions <pattern> [--arch <i386>] [--release <squeeze>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and i386 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages. |
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| 00:49.00 | JaMeSiTeGeN | ,help versions firefox |
| 00:49.14 | JaMeSiTeGeN | ,versions firefox |
| 00:49.15 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'firefox' was found in i386. |
| 00:49.21 | JaMeSiTeGeN | What!! |
| 00:49.27 | JaMeSiTeGeN | ,versions chromium-browser |
| 00:49.28 | judd | Package chromium-browser on i386 -- squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5; wheezy: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5; squeeze-security: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze3; sid: 10.0.648.127~r76697-1; sid: 10.0.648.133~r77742-1 |
| 00:49.39 | craigevil | there is no firefox its called iceweasel in debian |
| 00:50.21 | joeb_ | !versions |
| 00:50.21 | JaMeSiTeGeN | craigevil: Not quite, iceweasel is the re-branded version from debian, Which I say is a waist, it should be firefox, and another package that re-brands it. |
| 00:50.33 | JaMeSiTeGeN | ,version |
| 00:50.49 | JaMeSiTeGeN | ,help me |
| 00:50.58 | JaMeSiTeGeN | lol |
| 00:50.59 | JaMeSiTeGeN | (11:50:42) judd: Error: There is no command "me". |
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| 00:51.12 | craigevil | !iceweasel |
| 00:51.12 | dpkg | Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces it in Debian as of Etch. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. Use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel |
| 00:51.24 | streuner_ | Why isnt debhelper able to get rid of this idiot? |
| 00:51.51 | JaMeSiTeGeN | !chromium-browser |
| 00:52.04 | joeb_ | does anyone here have there gmail account on there local debian system or do you just check it from gmail.com ? |
| 00:52.08 | JaMeSiTeGeN | What, no responce? |
| 00:52.31 | JaMeSiTeGeN | dpkg chromium-browser |
| 00:52.31 | dpkg | wish i knew, JaMeSiTeGeN |
| 00:52.41 | JaMeSiTeGeN | what? |
| 00:52.48 | JaMeSiTeGeN | is that the bots responce? |
| 00:53.16 | JaMeSiTeGeN | dpkg thunderbird |
| 00:53.16 | dpkg | Mozilla Thunderbird is replaced by Icedove in Debian as of Lenny. Ask me about <icedove>. |
| 00:53.31 | JaMeSiTeGeN | dpkg icedove |
| 00:53.31 | dpkg | Icedove is a DFSG-free fork of Mozilla Thunderbird, a cross-platform email client, which replaces Thunderbird in Debian from Lenny. Debian is unable to distribute Mozilla Thunderbird as-is due to trademark restrictions, see <DFSG> and <iceweasel>. For help with upstream issues, ask #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org. |
| 00:53.32 | craigevil | yes dpkg is a bot, plz msg it by doing /msg dpkg rather than spamming the channel |
| 00:53.39 | JaMeSiTeGeN | oupps |
| 00:53.41 | dvs | JaMeSiTeGeN: /msg dpkg please |
| 00:53.42 | JaMeSiTeGeN | okays |
| 00:54.00 | JaMeSiTeGeN | \/query dpkg |
| 00:55.08 | rubin110 | I am looking for an example /etc/dhcpc/config ? |
| 00:55.11 | JaMeSiTeGeN | lol |
| 00:55.22 | JaMeSiTeGeN | dpkg Hello, how are you? |
| 00:55.22 | dpkg | JaMeSiTeGeN: mas o menos |
| 00:55.27 | rubin110 | errr /etc/dhcpd/config |
| 00:55.31 | rubin110 | No. |
| 00:55.32 | rubin110 | HAH. |
| 00:55.33 | rubin110 | Man. |
| 00:55.33 | JaMeSiTeGeN | dpkg how are you? |
| 00:55.33 | dpkg | JaMeSiTeGeN: mas o menos |
| 00:55.42 | JaMeSiTeGeN | humm. |
| 00:55.50 | streuner_ | craigevil, dvs: we need to get rid of this troll |
| 00:56.02 | dvs | wish i could |
| 00:56.12 | JaMeSiTeGeN | whos a troll? |
| 00:56.18 | JaMeSiTeGeN | trolls don't exist |
| 00:56.20 | streuner_ | dpkg, ops JaMeSiTeGeN spams us (bots) and trolls |
| 00:56.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: streuner_ complains about: JaMeSiTeGeN spams us (bots) and trolls |
| 00:56.50 | JaMeSiTeGeN | What no, I'm sorry |
| 00:57.22 | craigevil | then message the bot by doing /msg dpkg |
| 00:57.44 | mentor | JaMeSiTeGeN: Please msg the bots. |
| 00:57.48 | streuner_ | (we told him that twice and he ignored it....) |
| 00:57.54 | JaMeSiTeGeN | I did and it gave me a funny responce, that I wanted to share. Okay, i'm not going to talk to that bot in here |
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| 00:58.43 | rubin110 | I have a client I want to set the hostname via dhcp, I've installed the dhcpc package. |
| 00:58.52 | rubin110 | How do I configure this thing? |
| 00:59.10 | JaMeSiTeGeN | evil bot, it insulted me, :| "dpkg: are you using Windows?, JaMeSiTeGeN" |
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| 01:00.34 | mentor | JaMeSiTeGeN: You can drop the "dpkg" prefix in query |
| 01:00.50 | JaMeSiTeGeN | I know |
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| 01:01.03 | JaMeSiTeGeN | mentor: Do you want to be my debian Mentor>? |
| 01:01.21 | mentor | JaMeSiTeGeN: Do you have a Debian related query? |
| 01:01.44 | JaMeSiTeGeN | mentor, What are you asking me exactly? |
| 01:01.50 | streuner_ | <JaMeSiTeGeN> Hello debian peoples, I've been sent here to ask about how I can get firefox-4.0rc1 (from mozilla.org) to run. Linux-Mint--Debian-testing in use and when I run `./firefox` I get `exec: 398: ./firefox-bin: not found` so I ran `file firefox-bin` and got `firefox-bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped` Any ideas? |
| 01:02.21 | JaMeSiTeGeN | that is painful, Firefox 4.0 rc1 still wont start |
| 01:02.37 | mentor | JaMeSiTeGeN: apt-get install iceweasel |
| 01:02.40 | dvs | JaMeSiTeGeN: it does for me |
| 01:02.57 | joeb_ | guys im looking for an exiting desktop/wm i can use .. im tired of gnome / kde / fluxbox i been using them for years .. any personal suggestions ? |
| 01:03.12 | Auriga | Awesome WM...? |
| 01:03.22 | joeb_ | yes |
| 01:03.52 | streuner_ | !wm |
| 01:03.52 | dpkg | [window manager] a special class of X applications which decorates and manages windows for the X server. To list available window managers in your system, run "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager". Not to be confused with a desktop environment such as <GNOME> or <KDE>. To set your system-wide default window manager, use "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager". For a guide to available window managers, see http://xwinman.org/ |
| 01:04.09 | JaMeSiTeGeN | mentor, That just gets me the version of iceweasel as my firefox (from LMDE repos) and not giving me the beta testing for 4.0 rc 1 |
| 01:04.13 | joeb_ | thanks |
| 01:04.34 | JaMeSiTeGeN | !chromium-browser |
| 01:04.42 | mentor | Honestly |
| 01:04.43 | JaMeSiTeGeN | why Can't i get that to work? |
| 01:04.52 | mentor | fwaps JaMeSiTeGeN |
| 01:04.59 | JaMeSiTeGeN | fwraps? |
| 01:05.08 | JaMeSiTeGeN | fwaps? |
| 01:05.24 | mentor | Like a slap but without the follow through |
| 01:05.50 | JaMeSiTeGeN | Okays |
| 01:06.12 | JaMeSiTeGeN | /say/:| |
| 01:06.19 | JaMeSiTeGeN | /:| |
| 01:06.42 | mentor | JaMeSiTeGeN: Is firefox-bin executable? |
| 01:06.43 | JaMeSiTeGeN | mentor: Do you want to be my Mentor? |
| 01:06.53 | JaMeSiTeGeN | yes it is executiable? |
| 01:07.10 | JaMeSiTeGeN | -rwxr-xr-x 1 james james 49120 Jan 1 2010 firefox-bin |
| 01:07.15 | streuner_ | JaMeSiTeGeN: do you enjoy kickbans? :-) |
| 01:07.26 | JaMeSiTeGeN | kickbans, no |
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| 01:08.35 | JaMeSiTeGeN | mentor: Yes firefox-bin is executiable |
| 01:08.41 | mentor | I saw |
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| 01:08.55 | JaMeSiTeGeN | u had no responce so i was not sure :) |
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| 01:10.59 | mentor | JaMeSiTeGeN: I don't know why it says file not found. Try again using an absolute path |
| 01:11.33 | JaMeSiTeGeN | absolute == full?? /home/james/Downloads/firefox/firefox-bin ?? |
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| 01:12.11 | mentor | JaMeSiTeGeN: That is known as an absolute path |
| 01:12.22 | JaMeSiTeGeN | "`pwd`/firefox-bin" returned "bash: /home/james/Downloads/firefox/firefox-bin: No such file or directory' |
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| 01:13.56 | JaMeSiTeGeN | though the file is a "ELF 32-bit LSB executable," and is executable and does exist. |
| 01:14.36 | mentor | I hate backticks |
| 01:14.53 | mentor | JaMeSiTeGeN: What happens when you do ls $(pwd)/firefox-bin |
| 01:14.59 | JaMeSiTeGeN | why they sure do save time |
| 01:15.15 | JaMeSiTeGeN | /home/james/Downloads/firefox/firefox-bin |
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| 01:16.17 | mentor | JaMeSiTeGeN: Not a clue |
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| 01:16.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | running linux mint? why aren't you asking them for help? |
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| 01:17.34 | craigevil | you dont want fire-bin its just firefox |
| 01:17.34 | craigevil | from my Desktop.file > Exec=/home/craig/Downloads/firefox/firefox %u |
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| 01:17.38 | JaMeSiTeGeN | I am about to. |
| 01:18.18 | JaMeSiTeGeN | /exec xchat & |
| 01:18.20 | JaMeSiTeGeN | oupps |
| 01:19.51 | um | can not get samba working with authentication enabled (w/o auth it works ok). can anybody help pls? |
| 01:20.37 | JaMeSiTeGeN | samba, why, sshfs sure is better, and far more secure, Sorry um I can't help you there. |
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| 01:21.02 | um | can sshfs be used from a windoze box? |
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| 01:21.33 | mentor | um: Are you trying to access samba from a Windows box? |
| 01:21.37 | um | server |
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| 01:22.05 | mentor | um: Sorry? |
| 01:23.00 | mentor | um: Er, anyway, various Windows have differing requirements for accessing samba |
| 01:23.11 | um | server is debian squeeze, need to access it from win |
| 01:23.32 | um | win xp |
| 01:23.35 | streuner_ | just use winscp |
| 01:23.44 | mentor | um: Er, Windows XP Home can't join a domain for example, which stops it talking to samba in domain mode. |
| 01:23.46 | mentor | I think |
| 01:23.46 | streuner_ | its easy to use |
| 01:23.58 | mentor | It's not a filesystem though |
| 01:24.17 | um | i know |
| 01:24.32 | um | I need to access a filesystem, like a cdrom fs |
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| 01:26.22 | um | mentor: are you sure XP can't join a domain? (btw, I don't have and don't need a win-domain) |
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| 01:26.37 | mentor | um: Home edition cannot |
| 01:26.56 | um | mentor: i have xp professional |
| 01:27.05 | JaMeSiTeGeN | exec aptitude install libgdk-pixbuf |
| 01:27.08 | JaMeSiTeGeN | argg |
| 01:27.18 | JaMeSiTeGeN | lol |
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| 01:28.09 | um | mentor: win ask for the password (of the given username), but pw gets not accepted, it says UN or PW wrong... |
| 01:28.28 | mentor | um: What security settings are you using? |
| 01:28.30 | um | mentor: asks |
| 01:29.01 | um | mentor: do you mean in smb.conf? |
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| 01:29.06 | mentor | um: Yes |
| 01:29.26 | um | mentor: security = user |
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| 01:30.07 | um | mentor: security = share works, but then no password is asked, i need pw-protection |
| 01:30.24 | mentor | um: You can set a global password on share |
| 01:30.42 | um | mentor: how ? |
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| 01:32.39 | sdnalanis | how to turn on file sharing in kde/gnome? |
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| 01:34.04 | um | mentor: on the win box i use this command: net use z: \\192.168.64.12\cdrom /user:my-system-id |
| 01:34.50 | um | mentor: then win prompts for the pw but does not accept the pw... :-( |
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| 01:35.04 | ragnar76 | hi all |
| 01:35.18 | suprbly | hi |
| 01:35.24 | mentor | um: I think the answer is that you need to fiddle with smbpasswd |
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| 01:37.19 | ragnar76 | got some trouble with mrtg, i've installed the package, did the config but nothing happend. anyone knows what could be wrong? |
| 01:37.19 | jago25_98 | I need a to allow a user to tunnel an ssh session but disallow them a bash shell etc. # chsh -s /sbin/nologin {username} won't cut it...? would permissions be the way to go with it? but how? |
| 01:38.21 | um | mentor: during installaion of samba (aptitude install samba) the install script shows that it imports the users to its own user db. and also in a gui app called Shares Admin (under Applications/Debian...) the users are marked as samba users... |
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| 01:38.48 | mentor | Hmmm |
| 01:39.13 | mentor | um: Try dropping it down to share, it's still user level access, it's just negotiated per share. |
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| 01:40.42 | um | mentor: just tried smbpasswd... but got this error msgs after typing the password: Unable to connect to SMB server on machine 127.0.0.1. Error was : NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED. |
| 01:40.44 | durando | for atom n550 would it be recommended to use i386 or amd64? |
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| 01:42.08 | dvs | durando: Depends if you want Flash or not. |
| 01:42.24 | durando | this is a nas / tvheadend server only |
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| 01:42.51 | dvs | durando: then either would do. I'd pick amd64 |
| 01:43.00 | um | mentor: changed back to share |
| 01:43.06 | mentor | um: I don't know |
| 01:43.17 | durando | i'm hoping that i get better support for my Marvell 88SE6145 out of debian 6 than i am out of ubuntu server 10.10 |
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| 01:44.02 | um | mentor: and in smb.conf changed to "guest ok = no". it asks for pw, but again doesn't accept it |
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| 01:44.57 | um | mentor: ok, thx mentor |
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| 01:46.30 | ragnar76 | what does it mean and how can i fix it? >>> subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 128 <<< |
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| 01:50.32 | apwxxsdf | trying to compile one package but: |
| 01:50.39 | apwxxsdf | ./usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl |
| 01:50.49 | apwxxsdf | any ideas? |
| 01:51.06 | ragnar76 | apwxxsdf: sounds like you are missing devel files from perl |
| 01:51.28 | apwxxsdf | libsnmp-dev ? |
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| 01:52.16 | apwxxsdf | thought that too but seems it's installed.. |
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| 01:53.06 | ragnar76 | apwxxsdf: i would try "libperl-dev" |
| 01:53.57 | apwxxsdf | ok, will try |
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| 01:56.08 | um | mentor: fyi: solved! tried first smbpasswd -L -e myid, then updated the pw in the Shares Admin gui app, and suddenly it works! :-) |
| 01:56.18 | mentor | Oh good |
| 01:56.30 | mentor | um: Did you end up using user or share? |
| 01:56.42 | joeb_ | guys im trying to install e17 = enlightment im missing about 20 dependancies .. i did apt-file search and found nothing i also did a auto-apt search and still nothing .. any ideas ? |
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| 01:57.01 | mona | I did ln -s /usr/share/applications/defaults.list /etc/gnome, trying to make a symlink to that file. Is there any way to recover from that? I don't know what other files where in /etc/gnome before... |
| 01:57.03 | um | mentor: share :-) |
| 01:57.11 | mentor | um: Does user work? |
| 01:57.39 | um | mentor: will test now... |
| 01:57.42 | mentor | joeb_: There's an e17 package in Debian? |
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| 01:58.16 | homushi | mentor: there is |
| 01:58.24 | homushi | i'm actually using it |
| 01:58.45 | Bushmills | mona: same files as before - if directory exists, symlink is put into that directory. just remove it |
| 01:59.08 | mentor | mona: dpkg -S /etc/gnome will tell you what packages had files in /etc/gnome |
| 01:59.22 | mentor | mona: You can then reinstall? or purge and install |
| 01:59.22 | joeb_ | mentor- know what i messed up .. i did a aptitiude and apt-cache sarch for enlight Englight .. so what i did was i went to google and found a repositiorey |
| 01:59.24 | mentor | One of the other |
| 01:59.24 | joeb_ | let me rm it |
| 01:59.37 | um | mentor: yes, now also "security = user" is working too, that's even better for me |
| 01:59.51 | Bushmills | that is, you created a symlink /etc/gnome/defaults.list in /erc/gnome |
| 02:01.15 | joeb_ | mentor- i can't find it in the repo |
| 02:01.45 | joeb_ | mentor- i found a e16 |
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| 02:02.26 | homushi | i guess my question has been discussed a lot of times, but are there real benefits in migrating to squeeze from lenny? |
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| 02:03.42 | um | mentor: btw, the said "Shares Admin" gui app is in the Applications/Debian/Applications/System/Administration menu tree (in gome) |
| 02:03.45 | homushi | when using it as a desktop |
| 02:04.16 | mentor | homushi: Other way around? |
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| 02:04.48 | homushi | well, many servers run debian |
| 02:05.11 | ragnar76 | i have a package which i want to remove from my system but i get this error >>> subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 128 <<<. how can i remove this package? |
| 02:05.48 | mentor | homushi: lenny â squeeze |
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| 02:09.50 | homushi | mentor: fresh gcc looks attractive.. how possible is safe migration to x64 squeeze from x32 lenny? |
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| 02:10.17 | mentor | homushi: I don't believe migrations between archs are supported directly. |
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| 02:11.15 | homushi | i've red some frightening article about that once, so decided to forget it :) |
| 02:11.56 | buzzsaw | I am attempting to install debian via a net disk and for some reason it seems to hangup after I select language. Not sure whts going on |
| 02:12.08 | buzzsaw | Its just a blue screen sitting there |
| 02:12.26 | homushi | thought that may be supported during upgrade |
| 02:12.49 | buzzsaw | I went over to the kernel output and its just giving I/O erros for dev fd0 |
| 02:13.16 | buzzsaw | and FAT: utf8 is not a recomended IO charset |
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| 02:18.10 | fjfnaranjo | hi squeezers! |
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| 02:20.42 | Kurin | Is the "hpsa" controller driver not available in the debian installer? |
| 02:20.55 | Kurin | or do I have to do something special to allow it? |
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| 02:21.32 | Kurin | my controller was removed from cciss so that it could go into hpsa without overlap |
| 02:21.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | Kurin: i'm guessing not available, but it is just a guess |
| 02:21.41 | Kurin | so, I'm SOL? |
| 02:22.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | were you really hoping to install over 3g? :| |
| 02:22.22 | Kurin | huh? |
| 02:22.41 | fjfnaranjo | 3g = money, some countries |
| 02:23.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | other then 3g dongles, what uses hpsa? |
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| 02:23.16 | Kurin | HP Storage Arrays |
| 02:23.37 | Kurin | http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-scsi/2010/11/30/6887583 |
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| 02:24.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | oh, storag stuff. |
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| 02:25.57 | joeb_ | im having issues |
| 02:25.59 | joeb_ | lol |
| 02:26.00 | fjfnaranjo | uf, looks like a painly one... |
| 02:26.34 | joeb_ | early i just removed icewm and e17 now when i open something it attaches to my panel |
| 02:26.47 | joeb_ | ie .. i open xchat / firefox anything .. i can't resize the window |
| 02:27.00 | joeb_ | i can't even move it |
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| 02:27.13 | fjfnaranjo | but does it fix the entire desktop? |
| 02:27.23 | fjfnaranjo | fill* |
| 02:27.47 | joeb_ | only when i open an app .. lets say terminal it opens in the top left and i can't resize it |
| 02:27.56 | joeb_ | there is like no menu for it |
| 02:28.15 | joeb_ | want me send a screenshot ? |
| 02:28.20 | joeb_ | aw |
| 02:28.22 | joeb_ | the menu is gone now |
| 02:28.27 | fjfnaranjo | umh, or a hidden feature, who knows.. |
| 02:28.44 | joeb_ | terminal just cover my panel .. i have no applications system or anything .. terminal is covering it |
| 02:29.10 | fjfnaranjo | can you run gnome-something or nautilus? |
| 02:29.23 | joeb_ | let me try |
| 02:29.37 | joeb_ | one sec |
| 02:29.41 | fjfnaranjo | sure |
| 02:30.29 | fjfnaranjo | em, look like he wasn`t ... |
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| 02:33.52 | joeb_ | i need to reconfigure gnome |
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| 02:34.24 | Bushmills | you need a window manager |
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| 02:44.36 | gnarface | ok so i've got this old intel onboard video monstrosity (ibm netvista something or another p3-800mhz) with which the debian squeeze installer FREEZES INSTANTANEOUSLY on load (i see the menu and the cute debian graphic but it basically IO locks immediately before i can chose anything) so what would be your advice for getting squeeze on this thing? pull the harddrive and debootstrap from another machine? or what? |
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| 02:45.24 | joeb_ | so my gnome is jacked |
| 02:45.27 | joeb_ | i want to reinstall it |
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| 02:45.51 | joeb_ | i found something on the wiki tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install |
| 02:45.54 | joeb_ | is that the way to go ? |
| 02:46.10 | sdnalanis | what the difference between lenny and squeeze? |
| 02:46.34 | Bushmills | "the" difference, as in, the one and only difference? |
| 02:46.47 | gnarface | joeb_: i don't use gnome (that is my caveat for this suggestion) but i'd dpkg --purge every package with 'gnome' in the name then just apt-get install gnome again (after apt-get update) |
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| 02:47.04 | gnarface | sdnalanis: squeeze is the new lenny. lenny is deprecated |
| 02:47.45 | gnarface | sdnalanis: squeeze is to windows 7 as lenny is to windows XP |
| 02:47.48 | sdnalanis | does squeeze allow me to use kde 3.x rather than 4.x |
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| 02:48.06 | Mr_Queue | !remove gnome |
| 02:48.06 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 02:48.11 | Mr_Queue | joeb_: ^^ |
| 02:48.13 | smacnay | joeb_, I would do the same. purge all 'gnome' stuff and then 'apt-get install gnome' |
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| 02:48.48 | calisto | hi all what is th version of debian coming out every 6 months aprox.... |
| 02:48.49 | calisto | ? |
| 02:49.07 | Bushmills | there is no such thing |
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| 02:49.25 | Mr_Queue | never was, they talked about a set time for a freeze, but never a release. |
| 02:49.40 | calisto | Bushmills: yes are |
| 02:49.53 | Bushmills | "stable" |
| 02:50.02 | calisto | yes |
| 02:50.05 | calisto | so |
| 02:50.19 | Mr_Queue | calisto: I read every single debian news letter. I would have heard. |
| 02:50.24 | sdnalanis | does squeeze allow me to use kde 3.x rather than 4.x also why so many devds for squeeze vs lenny? |
| 02:50.36 | calisto | intermediate |
| 02:51.16 | Mr_Queue | sdnalanis: kde 3.x is a forked project, I can't remember the name right now. Squeeze is Stable, lenny is old stable. |
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| 02:52.05 | sdnalanis | will squeeze have wificard support for atheros cards? |
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| 02:52.19 | gnarface | calisto: you are thinking of ubuntu it is for fools |
| 02:52.28 | Mr_Queue | sdnalanis: More than likely. |
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| 02:52.41 | AngryBlackGuy | ubuntu is for fools? |
| 02:52.43 | AngryBlackGuy | what?! |
| 02:52.46 | Mr_Queue | haha |
| 02:52.47 | mentor | sdnalanis: That's mostly a kernel issue. |
| 02:53.04 | Mr_Queue | sdnalanis: Which card do you have? |
| 02:53.33 | AngryBlackGuy | hey does anyone use truecrypt? |
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| 02:53.43 | sdnalanis | don't have the model numbers right off ther top all i know is its an atheros card |
| 02:53.44 | calisto | nooooo gnarface, searching the notice in debian |
| 02:53.46 | AngryBlackGuy | if i dont have hardware AES support will it be unbarably slow? |
| 02:53.53 | joeb__ | !remove gnome |
| 02:53.53 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 02:54.04 | joeb__ | should i remove gnome in recovery or what |
| 02:54.08 | Mr_Queue | calisto: You're talking about time based freezes. |
| 02:54.12 | Mr_Queue | joeb_: Doesn't matter. |
| 02:54.28 | joeb__ | Mr_Queue- so i can do it right now while on gnome |
| 02:54.28 | AngryBlackGuy | does debian run well in virtualbox? |
| 02:54.35 | Mr_Queue | joeb__: Yep. |
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| 02:54.41 | Mr_Queue | AngryBlackGuy: yep |
| 02:54.42 | calisto | I read en debian.org for the news |
| 02:55.08 | Mr_Queue | calisto: I did too. They were talking about adopting a time based freeze cycle. Nothing to do with a release. |
| 02:55.21 | AngryBlackGuy | Mr_Queue, will debian be able to see/access the files on the host machine as well? |
| 02:55.24 | sdnalanis | from kde/gnome how to configure my wificard to work in squeeze? |
| 02:55.37 | joeb__ | how do install .. sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop ? |
| 02:55.44 | Mr_Queue | AngryBlackGuy: That depends on how you've configure your host, and setup shared folders. |
| 02:55.57 | AngryBlackGuy | my host is win |
| 02:56.07 | joeb__ | !install gnome |
| 02:56.07 | dpkg | To install GNOME: install the 'gnome' package to install everything, 'gnome-desktop-environment' for GNOME as defined by upstream, 'gnome-core' for a bit less and 'gnome-session' for the basic components actually needed to run a GNOME session. You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 02:56.10 | Mr_Queue | AngryBlackGuy: I forgot a lot a years ago what that is. |
| 02:56.21 | AngryBlackGuy | hehe |
| 02:56.28 | Mr_Queue | joeb__: You should probably go for gnome-desktop-enviroment |
| 02:56.36 | joeb__ | ok] |
| 02:56.54 | joeb__ | Mr_Queue- sudo aptitide install gnome-desktop-enviornment |
| 02:57.04 | joeb__ | do i reboot after this or just reinstall right away ? |
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| 02:58.15 | Mr_Queue | joeb__: Yes. You should probably logout and drop to a tty and install it. |
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| 02:58.25 | Mr_Queue | no reboot needed. |
| 02:58.39 | joeb__ | Mr_Queue- i have not tty i only have gnome / twm and system default |
| 02:58.46 | Mr_Queue | Just stop using the old gnome. |
| 02:59.03 | sdnalanis | from kde/gnome how to configure my wificard to work in squeeze? |
| 02:59.03 | joeb__ | im using the one squeeze came with |
| 02:59.37 | Mr_Queue | joeb__: Yes you do. <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1> same but <f8> should bring you back. |
| 02:59.43 | joeb__ | k |
| 02:59.53 | AngryBlackGuy | for debian i probably want unstable right? |
| 02:59.54 | mentor | alt-f8 |
| 02:59.56 | Mr_Queue | sdnalanis: look at the wiki. |
| 03:00.04 | Mr_Queue | AngryBlackGuy: if you have to ask, NO. |
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| 03:00.36 | sdnalanis | ok hang on let me have alook over there |
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| 03:02.06 | dvs | sdnalanis: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#GNOME |
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| 03:02.59 | AngryBlackGuy | where can i download unstable? |
| 03:03.06 | Mr_Queue | AngryBlackGuy: You can't. |
| 03:03.08 | AngryBlackGuy | i only see links to stable |
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| 03:03.37 | ZykoticK9 | AngryBlackGuy, you really probably don't want to be running unstable (based on the questions you have asked the channel) |
| 03:03.39 | AngryBlackGuy | debian does make unstable images available anymore |
| 03:04.08 | AngryBlackGuy | i mean... |
| 03:04.08 | sdnalanis | ok that solves gnome issue now hole to get the same thing accomplished in kde? |
| 03:04.17 | AngryBlackGuy | debian doesn't make unstable images available anymore? |
| 03:04.27 | Mr_Queue | never knew they did. |
| 03:04.41 | schr0 | I know this isin't a help channel, but I'm frustrated, so...Using dual screens, my mouse accelerates twice as fast on the x axis as it does on the y. If I draw a circle on my touchpad, it draws an oval on the screen. If anyones got any advice, I'd appreciate it. Debian Squeeze, compiz fusion, xfce4 |
| 03:05.08 | AngryBlackGuy | yeah its just called testing and theres the link :) |
| 03:05.31 | ZykoticK9 | AngryBlackGuy, i doubt they ever did. apttosid is an unofficial unstable installer. Testing != Unstable |
| 03:05.39 | Mr_Queue | AngryBlackGuy: testing is not unstable. |
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| 03:06.05 | AngryBlackGuy | oh ZykoticK9 so i have to switch to sid via apt after i install? |
| 03:06.15 | ZykoticK9 | AngryBlackGuy, correct |
| 03:06.19 | AngryBlackGuy | ah |
| 03:06.24 | Mr_Queue | AngryBlackGuy: Debian has a few. Old Stable (Lenny) Stable (Squeeze) Testing (Wheezy) Unstable (Sid) |
| 03:06.32 | dbe | anyone have problem with mplayer on squeeze? |
| 03:06.42 | Mr_Queue | dbe: Not here. Using it right now. |
| 03:06.49 | dbe | oh |
| 03:06.56 | ZykoticK9 | dbe, is playback "pausing" for you? issue i'm currently running into. |
| 03:06.59 | AngryBlackGuy | when was Squeeze released? |
| 03:07.18 | Mr_Queue | Feb 14th I belive.. V-Day weekend. |
| 03:07.30 | AngryBlackGuy | oh okay, so fairly recently |
| 03:07.35 | Mr_Queue | Yep. |
| 03:07.51 | dbe | i have problem with libx264 and the video is small |
| 03:07.53 | buzzsaw | this might sound a bit odd but I have not used debian for anything other than a server in quite some time. How do I go about changing the screen size? |
| 03:08.08 | buzzsaw | it seems to be sticking out past the edge of my monitor :-s |
| 03:08.42 | AngryBlackGuy | i havent run kde in a while |
| 03:08.43 | schr0 | buzzsaw: settings -> Display or xrandr if you need a terminal way |
| 03:08.46 | Mr_Queue | dbe: do you use multimedia? |
| 03:08.55 | dbe | yeah |
| 03:08.59 | dbe | i use multimedia |
| 03:09.01 | AngryBlackGuy | i always like kde for the first couple of weeks, but then i invariably find something about it that bugs me |
| 03:09.08 | AngryBlackGuy | and i end up going back to gnome |
| 03:09.11 | dbe | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free |
| 03:09.12 | buzzsaw | thats the thing, I dont see anything to click on like setting schr0 |
| 03:09.12 | AngryBlackGuy | which is ugly |
| 03:09.26 | Mr_Queue | dbe: Odd there. maybe you can pass options to it when you start it? |
| 03:09.37 | schr0 | buzzsaw: what desktop environment are you using? |
| 03:09.55 | buzzsaw | so far whatever is the default from the netinstall disk |
| 03:10.27 | Mr_Queue | gnome |
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| 03:11.26 | dbe | Mr_Queue: you installed from multimedia too? |
| 03:11.47 | Mr_Queue | dbe: Yes, but I almost always play .avi's |
| 03:11.57 | dbe | weird |
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| 03:15.06 | Mr_Queue | dbe: Are you able to try another video? |
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| 03:15.46 | piercedw_ | i have a generic question |
| 03:16.01 | buzzsaw | then ask it :-) |
| 03:16.05 | simonrvn | here's a generic answer |
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| 03:16.14 | piercedwater | lol |
| 03:16.16 | simonrvn | ;) |
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| 03:16.21 | piercedwater | I just setup debian 6 on a p4 3 ghz |
| 03:16.23 | dbe | Mr_Queue, libx264.so.104 lib is removed? |
| 03:16.28 | piercedwater | 1G ram, small ide drive |
| 03:16.35 | piercedwater | i already have a file server |
| 03:16.37 | dbe | it's not in apt |
| 03:16.44 | piercedwater | not sure what to do with it, but i feel like there is something |
| 03:16.54 | piercedwater | just fishing for ideas |
| 03:17.25 | buzzsaw | you could send it to me? |
| 03:17.29 | piercedwater | no thx |
| 03:17.35 | piercedwater | I was thinking databases |
| 03:17.39 | simonrvn | run a web site? do compiles? what do you think you need it for? |
| 03:17.39 | Mr_Queue | dbe: aptitude search ~dx264 |
| 03:17.48 | dbe | aptitude search ~dx264 |
| 03:17.51 | dbe | oop |
| 03:18.13 | buzzsaw | Hum tried resizing and my screen still extends beyond the edge of the screen |
| 03:18.30 | Mr_Queue | piercedwater: dns fold@home vpn |
| 03:18.52 | piercedwater | Mr_Queue: im not familiar with that. are you going to make me google? |
| 03:19.06 | dbe | apt-get install libx264-104 |
| 03:19.09 | simonrvn | !dns |
| 03:19.10 | dbe | E: Package 'libx264-104' has no installation candidate |
| 03:19.14 | simonrvn | !vpn |
| 03:19.14 | dpkg | [vpn] Virtual Private Network, a network constructed by connecting computers together over the Internet and encrypting their communications. This provides the ability to connect to a LAN from remote locations. Ask me about <openvpn>, <openswan>, <openssh> (see -w option), <vpnc>, <pptp>. |
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| 03:19.25 | buzzsaw | no he is giving ideas :-) vpn sounds fun |
| 03:19.27 | schr0 | buzzsaw: are you using a laptop? |
| 03:19.31 | piercedwater | hmmm |
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| 03:19.50 | simonrvn | !folding@home |
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| 03:19.58 | Mr_Queue | dbe: I have libx264-112 installed. |
| 03:19.59 | buzzsaw | the debian system is a home built system using a 42' plasma for the screen |
| 03:20.09 | piercedwater | niiice |
| 03:20.10 | buzzsaw | um.. 42" :-) |
| 03:20.18 | piercedwater | oh just 42"? |
| 03:20.21 | piercedwater | bah ;) |
| 03:20.26 | dbe | Mr_Queue, did you make symlink to libx264-104? |
| 03:20.28 | Mr_Queue | dbe: mplayer-nogui Depends libx264-112 (>= 1:0.svn20110115) |
| 03:20.37 | schr0 | Lol just 42...Can you tweak the screen and see if maybe its on its end? |
| 03:20.40 | dbe | oh |
| 03:20.50 | simonrvn | same idea as seti@home but for folding (physics or maths?) |
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| 03:21.45 | buzzsaw | it was running fine before installing debian, its not until it goes into GUI mode that I have problems |
| 03:21.55 | dbe | Mr_Queue, it still need libx264 |
| 03:21.57 | dbe | mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.104: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 03:22.01 | dbe | i mean 104 |
| 03:22.10 | Mr_Queue | buzzsaw: any chance you can just play with the monitor settings? Perhaps that's off. |
| 03:22.11 | dbe | i just install mplayer-nogui |
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| 03:22.45 | Mr_Queue | and it's missing a depends? |
| 03:22.46 | dbe | you run squeeze Mr_Queue ? |
| 03:22.52 | Mr_Queue | dbe: yes |
| 03:22.58 | schr0 | buzzsaw: It sounds like the TV needs adjusted like Queue said. If you want to go back to before you start the gui, can you spam a letter and see if it goes off screen before going to the next line? |
| 03:23.00 | buzzsaw | the tv settings are fine, |
| 03:23.07 | schr0 | ah |
| 03:23.27 | dbe | how come it asked for libx264.so.104 but not libx264-112 |
| 03:23.34 | dbe | i updated my system |
| 03:23.44 | buzzsaw | during boot mode and install everything showed fine. Running windows (before the install of linux) everything was fine on the screen |
| 03:23.52 | buzzsaw | Might be a driverthing I guess |
| 03:23.53 | Mr_Queue | dbe: ask aptitude why.. 'aptitude why <package>' |
| 03:25.04 | simonrvn | WHY??!?!?! |
| 03:27.12 | dvs | why ask why? |
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| 03:29.02 | dbe | thanks Mr_Queue i need to restart x |
| 03:29.12 | Mr_Queue | dbe: No problem. :) |
| 03:30.55 | sdnalanis_ | well squeeze come with flash, java and firefox pre0installed as part of standard system ow will i have to figgure out how to install these things on my own? and also how to play dvd mobies in squeeze? |
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| 03:31.26 | Mr_Queue | sdnalanis_: does any of those sound 'free'? |
| 03:31.54 | sdnalanis_ | no they sould proprietary |
| 03:32.02 | access_d | Mr_Queue: i've never had to pay for flash, java, or firefox.. ? |
| 03:32.11 | sdnalanis_ | the only one that is truely free is firefox |
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| 03:32.35 | Mr_Queue | That's not entirely correct either. |
| 03:32.46 | Mr_Queue | Their artwork is copyright |
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| 03:33.25 | Mr_Queue | keep reading, you'll get it. |
| 03:33.41 | sdnalanis_ | well will these items be in the aptitude4 db sas to make them easy install? |
| 03:33.57 | access_d | but yeah, does squeeze come with something that can do kernel dumps? and if not, any recommendations? |
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| 03:36.35 | simonrvn | sdnalanis_: you'll have to: |
| 03:36.39 | simonrvn | !non-free |
| 03:36.39 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>, or are encumbered by patents or other legal issues. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 03:38.04 | Diytto | Help: how do i decompress a tar.bz2 with tar |
| 03:38.18 | Diytto | Save me some pain and just tell me the command please :/ |
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| 03:39.47 | Diytto | Nvm got it |
| 03:41.44 | Mr_Queue | Diytto: save yourself pain. install the package atool. |
| 03:42.30 | Diytto | Okay |
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| 03:45.12 | [cenobyte] | installing debian6 on my G5 ppc and getting "release keys to continue" - any ideas how to get past this? |
| 03:45.36 | un214 | frys hardware /ducks |
| 03:46.23 | slidesinger | Having a challenge with the webcam, logitech c510 on debian lenny. Camera part (uvc driver) installed easily, but the microphone did not. Hours of searching, linux uvc microphone, nothing but the occasional mention that a microphone indeed is on the cam. |
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| 03:46.48 | slidesinger | The module snd_usb_audio did, in fact, install. |
| 03:46.58 | slidesinger | I think that |
| 03:47.29 | slidesinger | I think that the device may be installed, but I just can't find the thing. |
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| 03:48.27 | slidesinger | Would that be part of alsa and not uvc? |
| 03:49.36 | sdsalanis | i had come in here yesterday with the question of how to update the apt sourced list by using additional cd/dvd and someone suggested man apt.sourced command as root byt that did nnot work for me so how to scan additional cds/dvds post install |
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| 03:53.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | sdwhat does 'didnt work' mean? |
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| 03:53.56 | sdsalanis | it did not work |
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| 03:54.18 | sdsalanis | soreryfor the bad spelling |
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| 03:55.16 | jmarsden | !tell sdsalanis about doesnt work |
| 03:55.43 | rudi_s | sdsalanis: I can't find a man page with that name, but what you should do is add the DVD to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:55.48 | rudi_s | Maybe he meant an sources.list. |
| 03:55.49 | LinuxGuy2009 | I have an offline machine with the 8 DVD repository discs added as package sources. I can install packages with aptitude or synaptic but was wondering if there is any way to get the software-center to work with them. When I try to install something with it, it brings up a dialog box that says it would be installing untrusted packages. How do I tell the system that its ok and that they are trusted sources? |
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| 03:57.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | linhave you upapt-get update'd? |
| 03:57.56 | rudi_s | Kamping_Kaiser: Your tab completion isn't working. |
| 03:58.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | or whatever your applications equivilant is. |
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| 03:59.44 | LinuxGuy2009 | Kamping_Kaiser: all dvds are added and work and updated the lists. |
| 04:00.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | rudi_s: i'm lagged by 30-40 seconds, screen or irssi is eating the tab and inserting the control character instead :( don't know what is doing it though |
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| 04:02.09 | rudi_s | Kamping_Kaiser: Weird. Could be irssi, happens to me sometimes as well. |
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| 04:06.19 | portnov | hi all. |
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| 04:06.24 | slidesinger | Found it!!!! |
| 04:06.53 | portnov | Q: Are there any chances to install KDE 4.6 onto Debian? |
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| 04:07.02 | sdnalanis | when i install vmware workstation on my debain box and enter the serial as root, if any other user of the box comes along and trys to run a vm is alwasy asks for the the serial (seems like every user on the box must have thier own serial) |
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| 04:07.49 | slidesinger | usb webcam microphones are configured in alsa. |
| 04:09.26 | rudi_s | ,versions kde |
| 04:09.27 | judd | Package kde on i386 -- lenny: 5:48; sid: 5:66; squeeze: 5:66; wheezy: 5:66 |
| 04:09.42 | rudi_s | portnov: ^ - at least not in current stable. |
| 04:09.46 | jhambo | On Lenny I installed the w32codecs package from debian-multimedia and after that never had any problems playing video files. On Squeeze, I have installed w32codecs but many video files will not play, especially most avi and wmv. What do I need to do to get those formats working again? |
| 04:10.32 | portnov | eh |
| 04:10.37 | portnov | ,versions kde-base |
| 04:10.38 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'kde-base' was found in i386. |
| 04:10.47 | portnov | ,versions dolphin |
| 04:10.49 | judd | Package dolphin on i386 -- sid: 4:4.4.5-2; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-2; wheezy: 4:4.4.5-2 |
| 04:11.10 | portnov | Only 4.4. I want 4.6 :/ |
| 04:11.17 | rudi_s | portnov: Why? |
| 04:11.46 | portnov | because it's newer and has more cool features :) |
| 04:11.56 | dvs | !sns |
| 04:11.57 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 04:12.13 | rudi_s | Thanks dvs, just what I wanted to say. |
| 04:12.23 | portnov | nice. |
| 04:13.14 | rudi_s | portnov: If you always want the latest stuff Debian (stable) isn't for you ... either use sid and package it yourself or try a distribution which includes experimental stuff. Debian tries to be stable (at least most of the time) - so you don't get the newest stuff. |
| 04:13.34 | portnov | I'm using testing/unstable currently |
| 04:14.05 | rudi_s | portnov: Well, then, you know what you're doing then .. so package it yourself if you really need it - maybe even help the maintainer a bit. |
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| 04:24.21 | buzzsaw | no luck with the desktop size :-s http://i52.tinypic.com/5y69w.jpg |
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| 04:26.52 | aum | has libmp3lame been removed from debian ?!? |
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| 04:29.03 | pipeline | :dmm |
| 04:29.03 | dselect | [dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze> <dmm lenny>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>. |
| 04:29.18 | aum | pipeline: thanks |
| 04:30.02 | aum | pipeline: i already have non-free in my deb and deb-src statements |
| 04:30.14 | aum | no sign of libmp3lame or liblame tho |
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| 04:31.34 | calisto | Mr_Queue,gnarface,Bushmills I speack about Debian CUT |
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| 04:35.28 | pipeline | aum: re-read the :dmm tip, you need more than non-free |
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| 04:39.20 | Shazzamy | Who knows about the Seagate Dockstar? |
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| 04:41.10 | jmarsden | Shazzamy: http://ahsoftware.de/dockstar/ |
| 04:42.23 | Shazzamy | Yes, I just bought 2 and I think the NAND flash chip in mine is a 1GB chip instead of the previous 256MB/512MB |
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| 04:48.06 | peterrooney | Shazzamy: demand a refund. |
| 04:48.13 | Shazzamy | Hahaha |
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| 04:52.48 | LinuxGuy2009 | I've switched to KDE as my primary desktop environment now that squeeze has KDE 4 in t now. I'm trying to get aquainted with all the great customization features and got stuck with how I can move launcher icons on panels. I tried clicking and dragging with left and middle mouse buttons but it must be wrong cause they arent moving. How do you do that? |
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| 04:56.09 | adune | LinuxGuy2009: Right click on a empty space on the panel then go to panel options then panel settings, then you can click and drag the icons |
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| 04:57.55 | khaleel5000 | hi, just installed squeeze from cd(kde4) . have nvidia 9600GT on laptop. startx shows blank screen, where to look for ? |
| 04:58.01 | khaleel5000 | the solution* |
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| 05:01.55 | LinuxGuy2009 | adune: Ahh perfect! Thank you. |
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| 05:03.33 | khaleel5000 | doesnt selecting desktop environmetn in kde4 squeeze install cd enable you to install kde? apparently it didnt. |
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| 05:09.05 | stealth- | Hey guys. This is technically a Ubuntu question, but it more resides around the aptitude package manager. I wasn't getting any answers in #Ubuntu, so I hope this is allowed here. I locked some packages a while ago due to bugs they had in the new version, but now they've been fixed and I'm not entirely sure how to unlock those files. |
| 05:09.27 | stealth- | Here is the output when I attempt to upgrade: http://codepad.org/GteGUvH2 |
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| 05:18.37 | massmc | whats the app name of the program where i an manually add users and assign groups in gui |
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| 05:21.08 | buzzsaw | it seems that installing the non-free drivers for my video card solves the problem of screen overlap |
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| 05:36.34 | aum | :dmm mirrors |
| 05:36.34 | dselect | Servers mirroring debian-multimedia.org content are listed at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php (copy at http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php). |
| 05:36.47 | aum | hmm, that page is broken |
| 05:37.10 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is it possible to have trash can and icons on desktop instead of a folder view widget on KDE 4? |
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| 05:39.12 | LinuxGuy2009 | NM |
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| 05:52.42 | cwhizz | how do i find my name server address? |
| 05:52.51 | cwhizz | or dns ipv4 address? |
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| 05:53.11 | engla | cwhizz: normally the dhcp server gives it to you |
| 05:54.03 | cwhizz | engla, will ifconfig work? |
| 05:54.24 | engla | cat /etc/resolv.conf # it should be there |
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| 05:56.20 | cwhizz | engla, thanks |
| 05:56.46 | Some_Person | Is there a way to bring back the button in nautilus that turns the location buttons into a URL bar |
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| 05:57.44 | engla | Some_Person: I don't know anything apart from Ctrl+L |
| 05:58.13 | Some_Person | I suppose that'll work as a workaround |
| 05:58.33 | engla | so it's still there, hidden |
| 05:58.40 | engla | maybe there is a hidden setting as well |
| 05:59.12 | Some_Person | why they would remove this is beyond me |
| 05:59.32 | engla | well, there is a hidden setting |
| 05:59.47 | Some_Person | where? |
| 06:00.27 | engla | in gconf-editor, find the key /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry |
| 06:00.35 | engla | notice it's always on in that case |
| 06:00.45 | Some_Person | Oh, but that won't flip it at will with a button :-( |
| 06:01.06 | Some_Person | I generally used both views for different things |
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| 06:21.06 | Some_Person | Apparently their reasoning was "This takes a lot of space for something thats not commonly used." |
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| 06:30.53 | uoods | krushik|afk: fix your connection plz |
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| 06:32.50 | acts_as | Ok, I give up. Can someone please tell me how to turn a debian package's git repo into an actual debian package, thus allowing me to install it and move on with my life. Seriously, this is painful. http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-java/solr.git |
| 06:35.51 | acts_as | Anyone? He;lp |
| 06:35.57 | Kamping_Kaiser | acts_as: be patient |
| 06:36.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | acts_as: in answer to your question, install git-buildpackage and play with that; its probably what you want |
| 06:36.21 | acts_as | sorry. I just want to get to Solr 1.4.1, and the deb package that's built is *all over the damn place* |
| 06:36.35 | acts_as | Kamping_Kaiser: I already did. It's complaining about missing jars. |
| 06:36.51 | acts_as | So I'd just like to know where they go about find said jars. |
| 06:36.56 | acts_as | finding* |
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| 06:37.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | acts_as: missing build-dependencies? |
| 06:37.31 | acts_as | Kamping_Kaiser: That's how it looks |
| 06:37.46 | acts_as | How do they solve this? |
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| 06:38.00 | acts_as | I imagine there's some "standard" way to manage Java packages |
| 06:38.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | acts_as: perhaps ask #debian-mentors on oftc. |
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| 06:38.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | other then that , i can only suggest using apt-file to try and search for the missing jars |
| 06:38.50 | acts_as | it expects them to be in ./lib |
| 06:38.54 | acts_as | god |
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| 06:39.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | i'm cloing that package, but over 3g, so its taking a while |
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| 06:40.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | sorry, cancling that |
| 06:40.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | its a huge package |
| 06:40.25 | acts_as | yeah |
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| 06:40.32 | acts_as | thanks though. |
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| 06:41.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | gl with it |
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| 07:22.40 | iCoding | Hi there, I wanna custom my debian installation, I mean add some selections in the installation,(ask questions and get the answers, then use shell scripts to done something according the answers), how should i do it? |
| 07:23.36 | LinuxGuy2009 | For some reason every time I start up chromium-browser it asks to make it the default browser, so I hit "set as default", then I close it and the next time I run it, it will ask again and never goes away. I have tried removing the browser and removing /home/<username>/.config/chromium/ and then reinstalling but still doesnt make the setting stick. Whats going on? |
| 07:24.05 | NiLon | make sure config files are writable |
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| 07:24.31 | doxtor | How do I monitor GPU temperature in Squeeze? |
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| 07:25.47 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: nvidia card by chance? |
| 07:26.13 | Dewi | I had a local python2.6 prior to lenny->squeeze upgrade |
| 07:26.22 | doxtor | LinuxGuy2009: yes |
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| 07:27.33 | Dewi | oops |
| 07:27.54 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: If you install the driver from nvidia.com it has a temp guage that will show up in the driver settings window under the system menu. I forget the name of it nvidia-settings or something. |
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| 07:29.17 | doxtor | LinuxGuy2009: when I run nvidia-settings it says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver" |
| 07:29.33 | doxtor | If I run nvidia-xconfig and restart X, kdm won't restart |
| 07:30.03 | Dewi | how do I reinstall a set of packages without disrupting their dependents? |
| 07:30.05 | doxtor | 3D is working though |
| 07:30.56 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: Did you manually download the NVIDIA-*****.run driver from nvidia.com and install it? |
| 07:31.00 | macrobat | why install the driver from nvidia.com? |
| 07:31.09 | LinuxGuy2009 | Oh here we go. |
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| 07:31.44 | macrobat | you know already? |
| 07:32.13 | doxtor | LinuxGuy2009: I think I did, yeah |
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| 07:34.18 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: Did you let it blacklist the nouveau driver? |
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| 07:35.40 | Dewi | a pre-existing version of python2.6 has broken the squeeze one during upgrade to squeeze |
| 07:35.53 | Dewi | is the best way forward to somehow delete both and try to install python2.6 again cleanly? |
| 07:36.20 | Dewi | and if so, how do I avoid the removal of zillions of dependent packages? |
| 07:36.27 | LinuxGuy2009 | Dewi: have you tried running aptitude to see if it has a recomended fix? |
| 07:36.37 | doxtor | LinuxGuy2009: I don't think the question has even come up. |
| 07:37.02 | Dewi | LinuxGuy2009: I don't have a deps issue, it's failing to configure |
| 07:37.05 | macrobat | doxtor: what driver are you using? |
| 07:38.03 | doxtor | macrobat: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.36 |
| 07:38.10 | macrobat | :local python |
| 07:38.11 | dselect | An installation of python in /usr/local/bin/ is a great way of breaking a great many tools in Debian, which assume running "python" runs the Debian python with the installed python modules. Removing /usr/local/bin/python* should be enough to fix the problem; if you really need your own local version of system tools like python (and perl, and ...) make sure they are not on $PATH when you are performing upgrades. |
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| 07:38.59 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: If you have a newer driver from nvidia.com it will ask if you want it to create a conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/ that will blacklist the nouveau driver. I also had to manually remove the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package and then restart the driver install. Works fine on my 9800 GTX+ card. |
| 07:39.11 | macrobat | doxtor: is that one loaded? |
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| 07:39.41 | macrobat | is noveau installed? |
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| 07:40.01 | doxtor | How do I check whether noveau is installed? |
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| 07:40.42 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: If you didnt manually remove it, then its there by default and the nvidia driver wont work unless its removed and blacklisted. |
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| 07:41.13 | macrobat | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.19 | macrobat | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.29 | doxtor | I only installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.36, 3D is working and I don't remember any mentioning of noveau. |
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| 07:41.45 | doxtor | macrobat: nothing |
| 07:41.51 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: Is it a .run file? |
| 07:41.56 | doxtor | LinuxGuy2009: yes |
| 07:42.23 | Dewi | macrobat: ah, thx, I had not removed every trace of my local like I thought |
| 07:42.26 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor:When it asked to create the conf file that I mentioned, did you tell it yes to create it? |
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| 07:43.16 | doxtor | LinuxGuy2009: I can run it again and see if it asks about the conf file, I don't remember what it asked when I installed it. |
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| 07:44.08 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: It should also have asked for stuff like make, gcc, and the headers for the kernel you are using. |
| 07:44.47 | doxtor | Yeah, those I remember and relinking gcc to other version |
| 07:44.59 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: ok |
| 07:45.52 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: remove the package called "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" for it to work properly also. |
| 07:46.36 | doxtor | LinuxGuy2009: removed |
| 07:47.42 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: look in /etc/modprobe.d and look for a file named something like disable-nouveau-driver.conf or whatever its called. It will have the name nouveau in it. |
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| 07:49.01 | doxtor | No files with that name, grep returns nothing. |
| 07:49.26 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: Then your driver probably isnt working properly then. |
| 07:49.33 | doxtor | 3D is working |
| 07:50.10 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: Re-run the driver installation and let it remove and reinstall itself and when it asks to create the blacklist file, allow it. |
| 07:50.24 | doxtor | ok |
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| 07:50.43 | doxtor | thanks |
| 07:51.05 | LinuxGuy2009 | doxtor: Youll have to reboot after the .conf file is made. Then reinstall after a reboot. |
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| 08:18.17 | germ86 | Guten Morgen |
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| 08:19.16 | germ86 | Good Morning |
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| 08:21.08 | jelly-home | !ru |
| 08:21.08 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here. |
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| 08:30.37 | khaleel5000 | hi, on squeeze kde 4x, do you manually configure fstab to mount disk partitions or is tehre a program/script to configure it? (asking coz i used to update my system for over 3 years, now did a fresh install, quite a few features changed/introduced) |
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| 08:31.39 | simonrvn | easiest is with a text editor |
| 08:31.52 | khaleel5000 | edit fstab like good old days? |
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| 08:32.59 | jelly-home | yes |
| 08:33.16 | khaleel5000 | ok,thanks. |
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| 08:37.48 | jelly-home | Guest727: you fail at nickserv! |
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| 08:40.21 | homecable | how do i make iptables ban ips from an ip list /etc/pbanned.txt |
| 08:40.35 | arj1singh | Hi, I have a swap partition greater than my physical memory. But when I hibernate and switch on again, it does't start from where I hibernated. |
| 08:40.59 | Sm0ke0ut | homecable, by using a for/while loop? |
| 08:41.25 | homecable | how would i do it tho |
| 08:42.08 | homecable | for IP in $(cat ip_list); do iptables -A INPUT -s $IP/32 -d 0/0 -j DROP; done |
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| 08:42.45 | Sm0ke0ut | for example, yes |
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| 08:44.01 | Sm0ke0ut | arj1singh I don't think that the swap is involved at that part |
| 08:44.08 | Sm0ke0ut | but I can be wrong |
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| 08:45.38 | jelly-home | Sm0ke0ut: typically swap is the place where the hibernation data gets saved to |
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| 08:47.04 | jelly-home | arj1singh: which debian release are you using? uname -r? do the bootup message say _anything_ about the resume device? |
| 08:47.13 | erAbuelo | buenos dias |
| 08:47.58 | arj1singh | 2.6.32-5-amd64, no does't say anything regarding this. |
| 08:48.26 | arj1singh | Debian 6.o |
| 08:48.31 | arj1singh | *6.0 |
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| 08:56.48 | jelly-home | arj1singh: the resume support in initramfs usually says something early in the boot process. I don't know what the default 6.0 settings are supposed to be like though. Do the settings in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume look reasonable? If uswsusp package installed, what about the settings in /etc/uswsusp.conf? |
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| 08:59.53 | arj1singh | cat: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume: No such file or directory |
| 09:00.02 | arj1singh | I don't have this file. |
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| 09:02.15 | marti | hi, I have Debian 6.0 with Gnome. My clock on my panel (calendar) after upgrade Evolution doesn't appears any my events from calendar in Evolution program. Before upgrade Evolution app it was works. How can I fix it? |
| 09:03.33 | simonrvn | re-add it |
| 09:03.34 | jelly-home | arj1singh: that is unusual. Does it appear if you run "dpkg-reconfigure initramfs-tools" |
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| 09:04.10 | arj1singh | OK, jelly-home. |
| 09:04.26 | jelly-home | ok? |
| 09:04.43 | arj1singh | I will run. |
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| 09:05.10 | marti | :initramsfs-tools |
| 09:05.20 | blackshirt | hello |
| 09:05.40 | blackshirt | can someone help me ? |
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| 09:05.49 | simonrvn | !ask |
| 09:05.50 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 09:05.53 | Talon_ | I have a laptop with squeeze and my main pc with squeeze, how would I access my laptop in a window? like when I had ubuntu i used to use NX so i could remote-login with an X session in a window |
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| 09:06.08 | thewanderer1 | crap. I've just removed the contents of /dev from my system... |
| 09:06.27 | thewanderer1 | who would've thought that moving a bindmounted /dev will destroy my host! :P |
| 09:06.28 | simonrvn | udevadm trigger perhaps? if it still works |
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| 09:06.38 | simonrvn | moving? |
| 09:06.43 | jelly-home | good thing you're using udev and not a static /dev! |
| 09:06.46 | blackshirt | I have upgrade my debian kernel, but when reboot, always drop me to busybox initramfs shell..can anyone help me how to solved it ? |
| 09:06.57 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: then I'd run MAKEDEV generic, probably... |
| 09:07.06 | thewanderer1 | simonrvn: ok, now some more devices are in place |
| 09:07.27 | thewanderer1 | hey, thanks, it seems to be complete :D |
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| 09:07.53 | simonrvn | udev equilvalent of MAKEDEV ;p |
| 09:08.01 | simonrvn | equivalent even |
| 09:08.20 | jelly-home | if there's a /dev/{zero,null,full} things are going to work |
| 09:08.25 | blackshirt | I have upgrade my debian kernel, but when reboot, always drop me to busybox initramfs shell..can anyone help me how to solved it ? :-( |
| 09:08.30 | simonrvn | yeh, otherwise no |
| 09:08.41 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: yeah, my problem was that they were gone :D |
| 09:08.41 | simonrvn | !tell blackshirt about repeat |
| 09:09.08 | jelly-home | I think some parts of libc6 use /dev/zero mmap for anonymousse memory |
| 09:09.14 | blackshirt | :d |
| 09:09.14 | dselect | methinks d is a systems programming language. Its focus is on combining the power and high performance of C and C++ with the programmer productivity of modern languages like Ruby and Python. Special attention is given to the needs of quality assurance, documentation, management, portability and reliability. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_%28programming_language%29, or uninterruptible sleep (usually IO) |
| 09:09.24 | simonrvn | blackshirt: we need more info, like warning and error messages |
| 09:09.56 | simonrvn | my crystal ball is broken :P |
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| 09:11.05 | jelly-home | simonrvn: use a cue ball instead |
| 09:11.22 | blackshirt | simonrvn: it said that root device couldn't be found |
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| 09:13.04 | blackshirt | :) |
| 09:13.05 | dselect | well, ) is the smile part of a face. |
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| 09:13.37 | simonrvn | so something up with your initramfs likely |
| 09:14.08 | thewanderer1 | thinks dselect has a really badly chosen character |
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| 09:14.57 | simonrvn | :( |
| 09:14.58 | dselect | ) |
| 09:15.14 | blackshirt | simonrvn: I think so, I have try boot with live cd and try fsck, try update-initramfs, create new initramfs..but still the same error |
| 09:16.26 | simonrvn | yeh, well, that wouldn't work very well sometimes. tell me something, what does grep MODULES /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf say? |
| 09:17.06 | simonrvn | jelly-home: cue balls are just hard and unforgiving |
| 09:17.33 | blackshirt | simonrvn: wait a minute.. |
| 09:18.12 | blackshirt | simonrvn : this is my output $grep MODULES /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf |
| 09:18.13 | blackshirt | # MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep | list ] |
| 09:18.13 | blackshirt | #MODULES=most |
| 09:18.13 | blackshirt | MODULES=dep |
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| 09:19.18 | blackshirt | :-Dwait a minute ... |
| 09:19.32 | thewanderer1 | guys, something has broken and I can only hear sound from the left part of my headphones |
| 09:19.52 | simonrvn | thewanderer1: wire's broken? |
| 09:20.02 | thewanderer1 | I'll check with ALSA in console |
| 09:20.07 | blackshirt | simonrvn: this my output http://paste.debian.net/110544/ |
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| 09:20.20 | simonrvn | in your headphones i mean |
| 09:20.30 | simonrvn | sec |
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| 09:21.06 | thewanderer1 | I know... but how would I check that? |
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| 09:21.30 | simonrvn | blackshirt: how did you generate the initrd? did you use the installed kernel and modules? |
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| 09:21.45 | slysir | date |
| 09:21.46 | thewanderer1 | I'll plug in different headphones, hold on |
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| 09:23.30 | blackshirt | simonrvn: I'm using initramfs-tool, with update-initramfs.. I have read the manual .. something goes wrong ? I'm newbie here |
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| 09:25.00 | thewanderer1 | simonrvn: good catch, another pair works... now I have to tear the thing apart :P |
| 09:25.34 | marti | heheh |
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| 09:26.46 | thewanderer1 | I thought it was ALSA or PA since yesterday some tinkering coincided with the sound magically recovering... |
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| 09:31.32 | simonrvn | :) |
| 09:31.32 | dselect | somebody said ) was the smile part of a face. |
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| 09:32.37 | simonrvn | blackshirt: well, you can specify which kernel, which bootdir, etc. |
| 09:32.46 | simonrvn | update-initramfs --help |
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| 09:33.51 | blackshirt | simonrvn: yeah.. I have try for a spesific kernel that trouble.. I have compared with old kernel that working normally.. |
| 09:34.23 | simonrvn | you can unpack each one and compare |
| 09:35.01 | simonrvn | zcat initrd-foo.img | cpio -i (e.g.) |
| 09:35.13 | C2H5OH | hi, is there anything wrong with debian mirrors? |
| 09:35.18 | blackshirt | simonrvn: I have try to remove (backup old one) and then recreate new one initrd..but still stuck on there |
| 09:35.19 | simonrvn | be awar that will unpack into $PWD |
| 09:35.35 | C2H5OH | I can't stop getting hash mismatches on apt-get update |
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| 09:35.52 | simonrvn | C2H5OH: yes, same here. it clears up after a while |
| 09:36.33 | C2H5OH | simonrvn: I read somewhere that those are normally caused by mirror updates, but I've been trying about half a dozen mirrors for two days, and still get update failures |
| 09:37.21 | simonrvn | stick with one that's reliable, preferably close to you geographically, and update later |
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| 09:37.33 | simonrvn | eventually it did for me |
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| 09:41.48 | blackshirt | simonrvn: I have one another problem |
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| 09:43.54 | blackshirt | I have VGA onboard Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) on my pc.. when I use xserver-xorg-video-intel for my X driver, it's led me to freeze and unusable system, ..i don't know why ? any clue |
| 09:44.00 | jelly-home | C2H5OH: this may indicate other sources of corruption (transparent cache/proxy in the network, or even hardware issues). Try using a different ISP |
| 09:44.43 | sacredchao | I installed 2.6.37 from sid, and it says I can use it as a Xen domU in a guest OS but not host dom0 kernel |
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| 09:46.17 | sacredchao | But when I check /boot/config-2.6.37-2-amd64 it has the line |
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| 09:46.25 | sacredchao | CONFIG_XEN_DOM0=y |
| 09:46.42 | sacredchao | Why is that set to y if the package is only a domU kernel? |
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| 09:47.02 | jelly-home | sacredchao: just because it's built in doesn't mean it's in usable state |
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| 09:47.50 | simonrvn | blackshirt: i have no clue, not having that gear |
| 09:47.58 | simonrvn | !82845g |
| 09:48.56 | C2H5OH | jelly-home: you have a point, because I remember having other issues with my ISP and its proxy/cache |
| 09:49.00 | blackshirt | simonrvn: I was forced to use vesa drivers |
| 09:49.11 | jelly-home | some intel 8xx graphics work with kms, some work better without |
| 09:50.28 | simonrvn | yeh. i got a mismatch about 20 minutes ago, but it cleared up |
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| 09:51.22 | blackshirt | jelly-home: hmm..can you guide me..? |
| 09:51.51 | blackshirt | jelly-home: I don't know how to disable kms |
| 09:52.17 | erAbuelo | put "nomodeset" in grub options |
| 09:53.20 | blackshirt | erAbuelo: ok..i will try that |
| 09:53.48 | erAbuelo | or "modeset=0" or "radeon.modeset=0" for radeon xD |
| 09:54.14 | blackshirt | erAbuelo: ok..how for intel ?? just modeset=0 ? |
| 09:54.21 | erAbuelo | maybe |
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| 09:54.52 | blackshirt | erAbuelo: thank's for the clue |
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| 09:55.27 | blackshirt | erAbuelo: have we reconfigure my xserver ? |
| 09:55.56 | erAbuelo | I think not |
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| 09:56.46 | blackshirt | I am using vesa for device section.. have we should change it to intel ? |
| 09:57.32 | ov3rmind | hello to all... |
| 09:57.43 | blackshirt | ov3rmind: hello |
| 09:58.47 | erAbuelo | blackshirt lspci |grep -i vga |
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| 09:59.25 | blackshirt | erAbuelo: this is : 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) |
| 10:01.03 | erAbuelo | Driver "intel" <--- in device secction of xorg.conf |
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| 10:05.15 | ov3rmind | how after most recently update my kd4 turns up run on squeeze but gstreamer stop play youtube under totem, the msg only saaays gstreamer har failed in base libs |
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| 10:05.37 | jelly-home | blackshirt: /msg dpkg kms |
| 10:06.12 | blackshirt | erAbuelo: I will change that |
| 10:06.18 | jelly-home | blackshirt: it's possible you may have to _enable_ it instead of disabling |
| 10:06.50 | blackshirt | jelly-home: how to check if we have enable it ? |
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| 10:10.04 | jelly-home | blackshirt: dunno, have you read the wiki page? |
| 10:10.42 | jelly-home | it's going to be visible in dmesg or /var/log/kern.log since it switches the console driver |
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| 10:12.27 | blackshirt | jelly-home: I will try to search.. |
| 10:12.48 | blackshirt | jelly-home: I don't really understand..I'm stiil newbie |
| 10:15.32 | blackshirt | I will try that and back to report |
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| 10:20.53 | blackshirt1 | hello |
| 10:20.55 | blackshirt1 | :d |
| 10:20.55 | dselect | [d] a systems programming language. Its focus is on combining the power and high performance of C and C++ with the programmer productivity of modern languages like Ruby and Python. Special attention is given to the needs of quality assurance, documentation, management, portability and reliability. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_%28programming_language%29, or uninterruptible sleep (usually IO) |
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| 10:22.18 | sparse | Hello, I try to use some gnome apps under KDE but I want to change the font it uses (different from that in Gnome). Is there a way/howto how to set the global look for Gtk apps? I know about gconftool-2 but I have no idea what so seek inside it. |
| 10:22.26 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: I have reboot my system with intel driver, and place modeset=0 on grub options..i have look at Xorg.log..there are error like this : (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) |
| 10:22.26 | blackshirt1 | (EE) GLX: could not load software renderer... but still working normally |
| 10:23.46 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: I will wait.. |
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| 10:23.58 | jelly-home | blackshirt1: ok. btw did you read what dpkg told you after you wrote "/msg dpkg kms" in your irc client? |
| 10:24.23 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: /msg dpkg kms |
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| 10:24.46 | saivinoba | hi anybody uses gnash here..i'm on sid 64bit, with gnash installed. youtube does not work. |
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| 10:24.54 | jelly-home | don't write "jelly-home: " in front of it, start the line at /msg |
| 10:25.24 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: it says: are you using windows ? what this mean ? I don't use windows |
| 10:25.25 | thewanderer1 | saivinoba: it never works with gnash, use either swfdec (*might* work), the binary blob from Adobe or no Flash at all. |
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| 10:25.40 | thewanderer1 | saivinoba: on Sid, I recommend "minitube" - it can play YouTube without Flash |
| 10:26.00 | saivinoba | but gnashdev claims now it works (0.8.8 onwards) |
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| 10:26.12 | saivinoba | i heard trisquel has success with gnash |
| 10:26.16 | jelly-home | blackshirt1: try again, but be careful to write just "/msg dpkg kms", nothing else, without quotes |
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| 10:27.05 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: does it work for vevo videos as well? |
| 10:27.35 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: oke .. I'm wrong for command.. |
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| 10:27.46 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: no. I don't know what "vevo" is, but Minitube targets YouTube specifically |
| 10:28.37 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home : I have read it |
| 10:28.49 | thewanderer1 | saivinoba: no idea about that, Gnash always breaks on Flash websites for me anyway... you could try, but don't expect great results |
| 10:28.52 | saivinoba | thewanderer1: what is minitube? is it website like youtube? it takes me to some german company.. :-( |
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| 10:29.06 | thewanderer1 | saivinoba: no, it's a name of Debian package for sid |
| 10:29.18 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psuRGfAaju4 this is an example VEVO video. |
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| 10:29.50 | saivinoba | oh. ok.. will try that.. |
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| 10:30.10 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: umm, how does it differ from usual? |
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| 10:30.38 | jelly-home | it has ads around it and a slightly different API is used, as far as I can tell |
| 10:30.53 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: I typed in the search term, got the same video in Minitube. also, no ads so far :P |
| 10:31.19 | jelly-home | implying it works |
| 10:31.25 | Dewi | !ntop |
| 10:31.25 | dpkg | ntop is a web-based passive network monitoring application. Read /usr/share/doc/ntop/README.Debian after installation to set an administration password; additional command-line options (e.g. -M) can be specified within GETOPT in /etc/default/ntop. Post-install, run "dpkg-reconfigure ntop" to specify interfaces ntop should listen on. Not part of Squeeze due to Debian bug #601820. http://wiki.ntop.org/ http://www.ntop.org/ |
| 10:31.58 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: I am waiting if there are no freeze with modeset disabled |
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| 10:35.00 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: $ uptime |
| 10:35.00 | blackshirt1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.01 | blackshirt1 | I think my system working normally with intel driver with modeset disabled.. |
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| 10:36.43 | saivinoba | thewanderer1: thanks for minitube suggestion.. it caters to my needs.. as for gnash will try to see if i can get help from gnashdev. |
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| 10:38.03 | thewanderer1 | saivinoba: btw. YouTube has a HTML5 option, works pretty well for most videos at present. plus if you don't run Flash, you get less ads :P |
| 10:38.34 | saivinoba | thewanderer1: how to use that option? |
| 10:38.59 | NiLon | what ads? |
| 10:39.07 | thewanderer1 | saivinoba: http://www.youtube.com/html5 |
| 10:39.48 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: still there ? |
| 10:39.49 | ewet | hi, I have this strange problem that my iptables script won't correctly forward my packages in my router. I needs a default Gateway. I know I had this problem before and I think it was trivial... can someone point me the direction? :) |
| 10:40.03 | jelly-home | blackshirt1: yes |
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| 10:41.08 | blackshirt1 | I have change modeset=0 in i915-kms.conf,, this is true ? |
| 10:41.38 | ewet | that's the script: http://pastebin.com/21QCD4Pd |
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| 10:42.14 | jelly-home | blackshirt1: pastebin that whole file, and also your /var/log/kern.log (or dmesg output) |
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| 10:42.34 | saivinoba | thewanderer1: thanks. |
| 10:44.05 | thewanderer1 | guys, I have an i386 chroot within an amd64 system, and in the said chroot I'm unable to mount a FUSE filesystem. mount(2) returns ENOPERM. any clue? |
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| 10:45.19 | thewanderer1 | sorry, it's EPERM (-1) |
| 10:45.51 | thewanderer1 | mount("/dev/fuse", ".", "fuse", MS_NOSUID|MS_NODEV, "fd=5,rootmode=40000,user_id=1000"...) = -1 EPERM // this is from 'fusermount' binary |
| 10:45.52 | pzn | I have "kernel BUG" messages in syslog once every couple minutes. do you think that is a software or hardware problem? http://pastebin.com/rVnWgwYE |
| 10:46.36 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: this is dmesg output http://paste.debian.net/110545/ |
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| 10:48.47 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: I could paste kern.log at paste.debian.net .. it too big |
| 10:49.06 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: does your user, in fact, have rw access for /dev/fuse? |
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| 10:50.20 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: I'm in group fuse, /dev/fuse is root:fuse 0660, but I get EPERM again |
| 10:51.05 | jelly-home | thewanderer1: does "id -a" confirm that group? |
| 10:51.27 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: :d |
| 10:51.34 | jelly-home | blackshirt1: sorry? |
| 10:52.42 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: options i915 modeset=0 |
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| 10:53.21 | ewet | no ideas? |
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| 10:54.05 | jelly-home | blackshirt1: lines 414-415 of your dmesg paste suggest that kms is active and the console has been switched to i915 kms ("inteldrmfb") one |
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| 10:57.47 | jelly-home | blackshirt1: so, no, your modeset=0 line isn't really working (yet). I suggest an additional reboot to apply any changes and see if a) there's a change in that i915-related part of dmesg, and b) X works or not |
| 10:58.50 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: firstly, I am placing modeset=0 on grub options on grub menu |
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| 10:59.14 | blackshirt1 | check this : Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686 root=UUID=92f2736e-cc76-464a-b6be-dc2817c90a27 ro quiet modeset=0 |
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| 11:00.19 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: yes, `id -a` does show fuse |
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| 11:02.30 | blackshirt1 | jelly-home: I will try that ;d |
| 11:03.19 | jelly-home | blackshirt1: where did you get the reference for "modeset=0" instead of "nomodeset" or "i915.modeset=0"? |
| 11:04.40 | jelly-home | I'm not sure merely "modeset=0" is valid as a boot parameter |
| 11:05.15 | thinksteve | I'm wondering where to find the user/password the official debiab live cd is asking me for |
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| 11:05.21 | blackshirt1 | from here, someone here told me to place nomodeset or modeset=0 on grub options.. I have tried that, and my system not goes down (freeze)..before this with no change options, for approximately, 20 minute, system will freeze, and not usable until reboot |
| 11:06.01 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: ok, FYI it's something that I don't understand completely but apparently mounting it with FUSE in the host and then `mount --make-rshared --bind` does 'fix' the issue - I can now see the filesystem in the chroot |
| 11:07.20 | ewet | well... isn't it true that a router shouldn't need a default gateway? shouldn't that already work through the ip-forwarding? |
| 11:07.49 | thewanderer1 | ewet: a router needs routes to/from wherever you want to get. |
| 11:08.21 | thewanderer1 | if you need to get to "the Internet", then you probably need a default route |
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| 11:10.52 | Ticho | ewet: without a default route, how would a router know how to get to for example 12.1.146.5? all it has in its routing table are routes for one or two local subnets, rest goes via "default route", which is for "all other traffic" |
| 11:11.22 | ewet | hmm.. the only thing I know is that no router around me has a default gateway configured and I also never did that. However it is true that I now have routing problems. I had this before and I think the solution was trivial if only I could remember... |
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| 11:15.36 | thinksteve | Nevermind, boot options were missing 'config' |
| 11:16.06 | ewet | and it only makes sense that way: image you have several internal networks and several external ones. but the router only has two ips with access to those networks. so what a router really needs is a routing table... |
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| 11:20.45 | Ticho | ewet: sure, if you do not require internet connectivity, then you only need few static routes among your networks |
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| 11:23.24 | wp | what flavor do you choose when having an intel xeon and you need 64 bits support? amd64 or ia64 |
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| 11:23.38 | erAbuelo | amd64 |
| 11:23.38 | Ticho | amd64 |
| 11:23.49 | Ticho | ia64 is for Intel Itanium |
| 11:23.51 | erAbuelo | ia64 it's for itanium |
| 11:23.53 | wp | ok, thanks! when do you use ia64 then? :) |
| 11:23.54 | erAbuelo | xDD |
| 11:23.57 | Ticho | hehe |
| 11:23.58 | wp | copycats ;) |
| 11:24.11 | wp | thanks |
| 11:24.20 | Zao | wp: You use ia64 when you have an Itanic. |
| 11:24.29 | Zao | And then you gently weep. |
| 11:24.29 | Ticho | and tia64 when you have a Titanic |
| 11:24.41 | erAbuelo | jajajaja |
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| 11:25.06 | amp_ | hi |
| 11:25.21 | erAbuelo | eso si, ten cuidado con los icebergs! |
| 11:25.32 | arj1singh | Bye |
| 11:25.46 | chakal | ajaja |
| 11:25.47 | erAbuelo | uiii |
| 11:27.50 | ShishKabab | What could be the cause of my /etc/cron.d scripts not running? I've copied the line from /etc/cron.d/php5 to a new file with the same permissions, but slightly modified to remove sessions from a chroot. The original script runs and mine doesn't. I've touched the file, touched /etc/cron.d and restarted cron. |
| 11:29.08 | erAbuelo | ShishKabab: paste the script |
| 11:29.16 | psycodad | where would I look for options for bonded interfaces ? Looked in man ifconfig and man interfaces without luck. |
| 11:30.06 | Ticho | psycodad: Documentation/networking/bonding.txt in linux kernel source is good |
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| 11:30.24 | ewet | well thanks for your input. for now I resort to a default gateway. I know I have to change that one day ;-) |
| 11:30.54 | Ticho | ewet: poor you, using default gateway like the rest of the tcp/ip world |
| 11:31.32 | ShishKabab | erAbuelo: http://www.pastie.org/1666343 |
| 11:31.43 | psycodad | Ticho, ty, exactly what i was looking for! Especially I was looking for the different modes as I am trying to hookup to a dlink switch |
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| 11:32.13 | Ticho | psycodad: using LACP perhaps? |
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| 11:32.54 | psycodad | I was thinking it would be 802.3ad, but I am still hunting the dlink manual for a clear spec what "trunk" means with them. |
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| 11:35.50 | jelly-home | "trunk" sounds more like .1q terminology than .3ad |
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| 11:37.53 | psycodad | jelly-home: funny enough their manual just says "Port trunk (Ling aggregation)" ... I fear I have to test them all to see which one works *argh* |
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| 11:38.34 | Ticho | yeah, that's the funny thing about manageable switches - each vendor has their own terminology |
| 11:38.45 | psycodad | jelly-home: they call it "trunk" independent if you forward tagged or untagged through it. |
| 11:39.04 | jelly-home | ... |
| 11:39.55 | jelly-home | "oh we can't just copy Cisco's lingo, people might actually understand what we're talking about!" |
| 11:40.29 | Ticho | hp procurve switches are the same - slight differences :> |
| 11:40.46 | psycodad | even found a statement in the dlink support forum, stating that trunking only works between switches of the same model... *huuhhh* ? |
| 11:41.07 | Ticho | maybe by trunking they mean switch stacking ? |
| 11:41.30 | jelly-home | ENOELEPHANT |
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| 11:42.05 | psycodad | from the features they describe it sounds lik balance-rr |
| 11:42.15 | Ticho | anyway, good luck, i'm off to supermarket to hunt for some food |
| 11:42.27 | erAbuelo | ShishKabab: the only thing I might be wrong is to "find / webroot/var/lib/php5 /", the rest in principle is fine and should work correctly. |
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| 11:45.00 | psycodad | with balance-rr i can ping vlan interfaces using the bond as raw_devive, however that has been the case with 802.3ad too (for some time..). |
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| 11:46.36 | ShishKabab | erAbuelo: Interesting. Because also everything else I've found so far indicates that it should work, yet it doesn't ;) |
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| 11:53.22 | erAbuelo | ShishKabab: try "find /webroot/var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0" in tty |
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| 12:13.29 | babelfatal | hello guys, I just installed debian 6 and I have some icons at the top right which I would like to remove. it's networking bluetooth and the particualar which I would like to remove is universal acces |
| 12:13.34 | babelfatal | any ideas? |
| 12:14.17 | erAbuelo | ta lueeeeeg |
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| 12:16.04 | maligor | babelfatal, http://kenno.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/remove-universal-access-icon-from-gnome-panel/ |
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| 12:16.28 | babelfatal | maligor: thanks |
| 12:16.45 | maligor | networking is handled by nm-applet iirc |
| 12:17.08 | maligor | try system->preferences->startup applications |
| 12:17.40 | maligor | I guess you'll want to remove network manager and the bluetooth from there |
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| 12:18.52 | maligor | you can also just remove the whole 'Notification Area' from the panel but some applications want to minimize into it |
| 12:18.53 | babelfatal | the link which maligor gave me resolved the problem! |
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| 12:19.01 | vaasu | hi, general linux question, in tty1,2 etc. the text gets refreshed quite slowly, eg: man ls will load the pager from bottom to top quite slowly, is there a way to make it faster without changing font size? |
| 12:19.36 | babelfatal | I really onley wanted to remove the universal access controll |
| 12:20.48 | maligor | vaasu, Are you using vesafb? |
| 12:21.31 | vaasu | i don't think so, but how to check? |
| 12:22.44 | maligor | vaasu, do you know what driver you're using for linux console? |
| 12:22.54 | maligor | like KMS drivers? |
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| 12:23.40 | vaasu | 'lsmod | grep fb' shows vga16fb |
| 12:23.51 | vaasu | also some other entries |
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| 12:24.57 | maligor | It's just that I remember vesafb being mostly really slow |
| 12:24.58 | babelfatal | I have another question which might not be debain specific but anyhow. I would like to install SVN(subversioning) on my system from aptitude and don't know the name of their metapackage, and nothing useful is given when I search for it through aptitude |
| 12:25.25 | babelfatal | nothing in packages.debian.org either |
| 12:25.26 | petemc | babelfatal: subversion |
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| 12:25.54 | babelfatal | yeahh that's what I should searched for! |
| 12:25.59 | petemc | :) |
| 12:25.59 | dselect | it has been said that ) is the smile part of a face. |
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| 12:26.08 | babelfatal | thanks for the help petemc, the solution worked |
| 12:26.12 | petemc | np |
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| 12:27.25 | babelfatal | petemc: could you recommend a gui client for it? seems like there alot out there and none of them really have a good reputation |
| 12:27.32 | Sia- | hi |
| 12:28.07 | petemc | babelfatal: not aware of any sorry |
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| 12:28.20 | xelister | What would you use to share files between few computers, with versioning. Like rsync, but versioning... like SVN, but more automatic. Perhaps SVN + scripts to auto add/remove files? |
| 12:28.43 | Sia- | i was using ipv4 and now i can use ipv6 from my provider, is this configuration correct in network interface? http://paste.debian.net/110550/ |
| 12:28.54 | babelfatal | petemc: ok the same goes for me |
| 12:29.06 | Flash_ | xelister, probably not what you want, but samba will do /sort of/ versioning, with trash cans |
| 12:29.24 | Flash_ | so if a file is changed, the original is kept |
| 12:29.34 | Sia- | and how can i know that now i'm using the ipv6 becaose ifocnfig eth0 disply almost the old one after restart |
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| 12:43.38 | pzn | old debian woody machine "uptime: 09:41:45 up 249 days, 17:17, 3 users, load average: 30.80, 30.29, 30.31" how can I know what makes 30 load? top does not show anything spending more than 5% cpu |
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| 12:44.19 | pzn | where is a high CPU being used for %wa in top, how can I know which process it comes from? |
| 12:44.21 | petemc | pzn: could be things wait for io, look for processes in D state |
| 12:44.25 | petemc | waiting |
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| 12:46.12 | pzn | petemc, wow! there are exactly 30 processes of "shutdown" |
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| 12:46.34 | petemc | doesnt sound ideal |
| 12:47.25 | jnewt | ugh, just installed some security updates from winxp on my dual boot, reboot, can't get to grub boot menu, just says "Boot Error". Now what? |
| 12:47.39 | bolt | How does rsync behave if a file it was about to copy is there? Say I start rsyncing 100 big files to another machine, then transfer some of them with a usb stick instead (using rsync to get the times right and such). Does rsync still overwrite the files because they weren't correct at the start of the run, or does it recognize the new files that appeared (as long as it wasn't currently writing to that exact file)? |
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| 12:49.07 | bolt | jnewt: boot from cd/usb/network/preferred install media, chroot to your installation and re-run grub-install |
| 12:49.36 | pzn | petemc, all the processes "shutdown" started on november 2010! kill -9 on them does not kill... really weird! |
| 12:50.43 | jnewt | bolt: sounds like I would have to know where to chroot to, which i don't. I can prob boot from my debian disk, but won't know where to go from there. |
| 12:51.06 | pzn | petemc, some kernel "oops"... BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 |
| 12:51.18 | bolt | jnewt: you mount your root partition and chroot to there |
| 12:51.31 | pzn | petemc, machine is 300km away... seems it will be a good sunday :-) |
| 12:52.09 | bolt | printing out the address of a null pointer, after stating it is a null pointer? |
| 12:52.10 | bolt | useful |
| 12:52.15 | petemc | pzn: upgrade it while you're at it :) |
| 12:52.52 | Ticho | bolt: the pointer itself can be at different address, just pointing to null |
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| 12:55.01 | pzn | petemc, can't upgrade... government ugly contract... it is an audit machine. it was approved on 2009, with debian 4.0, I can't upgrade any package or I'll have to pay for a new approval test that is not cheap... :-( |
| 12:56.06 | petemc | shit one |
| 12:56.53 | pzn | how can I kill a process that is waiting for disk-io? |
| 12:57.31 | petemc | reboot |
| 12:57.46 | pzn | :-) |
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| 12:58.47 | pzn | how can I reboot safely if there are 30 "shutdown" processes waiting for disk-io, and a new shutdown process that I did now is also waiting for IO? |
| 12:59.04 | jelly-home | pzn: no, really, that was a serious answer |
| 12:59.39 | jelly-home | if your block device isn't responding no amount of irc advice will magically make it work again |
| 12:59.57 | jelly-home | !sysrq |
| 12:59.58 | dpkg | it has been said that sysrq is Alt-PrintScreen-[Key]. For a clean reboot with a semi-locked machine, try [Key] with s-u-b, s for sync, u for remount readonly and b for reBoot. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key and http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt . See also <sysrqd>. |
| 13:00.39 | pzn | jelly-home, many kernel "oops" in the logs and the machine does not shutdown... it is funny but it is real... the block device is OK, raid is working... |
| 13:00.59 | jelly-home | sysrq s, u, b |
| 13:01.23 | pzn | jelly-home, ok... no way to use sysrq remotely. I'll have to ask someone to go to the machine tomorrow morning. |
| 13:01.34 | jelly-home | pzn: do you have a working root shell? |
| 13:02.10 | pzn | jelly-home, yes, everything seems to be working allright. I can log, all apps work OK, all cronjobs working, DB working. |
| 13:02.35 | pzn | jelly-home, besides the kernel oops messages, all works. I just can't do "reboot" or "shutdown" |
| 13:02.43 | jelly-home | echo -n s >> /proc/sysrq-trigger; sleep 1; echo -n u >> /proc/sysrq-trigger; sleep 5; echo -n b >> /proc/sysrq-trigger |
| 13:02.52 | jelly-home | but if you need to keep it working, don't |
| 13:04.11 | pzn | jelly-home, real nice solution!!! didn't know about sysrq-trigger. but better follow your advice and do it tommorrow when there is someone near the machine. |
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| 13:05.53 | Iridos | if dmidecode says "Type: ECC DIMM", is that really an indication that the memory does ECC or should I look for something else |
| 13:06.01 | IsoLnCHiP | Hi, any suggestions how to go about comparing two directorys interactively in a terminal environment? |
| 13:06.28 | Iridos | IsoLnCHiP, diff -r dir1/ dir2/ |
| 13:07.12 | pzn | petemc, jelly-home: thanks for the help! |
| 13:07.21 | IsoLnCHiP | Iridos: Well of course, but that doesnt really count as interactive to me ;) |
| 13:08.48 | IsoLnCHiP | I mean along the lines of being able to get an overview of which files are different and then drilling down into a diff, whicht haveing to 'cd' and 'diff' around manually |
| 13:09.09 | IsoLnCHiP | s/whicht/without/ |
| 13:10.12 | Sia- | its possible to change from ipv4 to ipv6 ? |
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| 13:11.46 | babelfatal | guys when you install squeeze you get a JDK for it, wonder how I could remove it totally from aptitude |
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| 13:12.36 | nyl | can anyone link me to a debian ARM preinstalled image? |
| 13:13.37 | v_v | IsoLnCHiP: the ediff-direcotires can do that work, but you need a emacs first |
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| 13:15.34 | IsoLnCHiP | v_v: looking into that now |
| 13:16.59 | v_v | IsoLnCHiP: if you like kde utils, kdiff3 |
| 13:17.38 | babelfatal | hey could some one please tell me the default packages which are installed with sqeeze for java so I could remove them and install sun JDK instead!? |
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| 13:20.49 | Iridos | IsoLnCHiP, this gives you all differences... feel free to add "|less" at the end and search the results... there's more specialized programs for picture files, but I don't see how anything could be "interactive" - either stuff is different or it is not (no interaction required, just the info about what it is) |
| 13:21.00 | ofauchon | Hi. I try to install Debian 5.0.8 from netinstall .iso, but bnx2 drivers are missing. How can I remaster the .iso file to add these drivers ? |
| 13:21.21 | IsoLnCHiP | v_v: Jupp, I know pleanty of X11 apps that would do what I want, but the box Im working on currently doesnt have X or Xlibs, which is why I was looking for a terminal solution :) |
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| 13:22.11 | v_v | IsoLnCHiP: sorry, i didn't kept that 'terminal' in mind |
| 13:22.52 | IsoLnCHiP | v_v: Ok, the emacs thing seems to be heading into the right direction, but Im a little lost in the usage, how do I leave a diff without quiting emacs? ;) |
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| 13:23.30 | syn4pse | ofauchon 32 or 64bit ? |
| 13:23.38 | ofauchon | amd64 |
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| 13:23.51 | syn4pse | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8O5D782S |
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| 13:24.33 | v_v | IsoLnCHiP: usually, you Ctrl-x k to kill the buffer or Ctrl-x b to switch between buffers |
| 13:24.42 | IsoLnCHiP | Iridos: with interactive I mean something along the lines of this ediff-directories. Or what vimdiff does for single files. |
| 13:24.54 | ofauchon | syn4pse, will that install 5.0.8 packages ? |
| 13:26.33 | IsoLnCHiP | Hmm, looks like I need to find a emacs cheat sheet, totally lost here, cant even close a window ;D |
| 13:26.51 | v_v | IsoLnCHiP: ;) it's evil |
| 13:27.18 | syn4pse | 5.04 but you should be able to upgrade that via apt-get easily ;) |
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| 13:29.33 | IsoLnCHiP | v_v: Ok, is there a way to get the diff horizontally instead of vertically? I think that would do the trick for me |
| 13:29.40 | Iridos | babelfatal, there's the package sun-java6-jdk, install that. Anything conflicting will be uninstalled. There is also gcj java, but it is not installed "by default" (it might be, depending on what tasks were selected upon installing - but I don't know for sure if any tasks would cause that) |
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| 13:32.08 | IsoLnCHiP | v_v: Ok, pressing | switches, but is there a way to make that the default? |
| 13:33.45 | v_v | IsoLnCHiP: sorry, i don't playing with the ediff very much, usually 'diff' and 'vimdiff' is enough for me |
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| 13:35.19 | IsoLnCHiP | v_v: Ok, thanks anyway. Or do you by chance know how to get vimdiff to get the job done? ;) |
| 13:36.37 | v_v | IsoLnCHiP: i don't know |
| 13:37.03 | IsoLnCHiP | v_v: Ok, thanks Ill make do with ediff-dir :) |
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| 13:37.38 | arand | I am trying to get a debian grub to find the ubuntu entry (11.04,LVM ,ext3 /boot, btrfs /), "linux-boot-prober /dev/mapper/mellu/ububoot" Gives sensible output, however running update-grub completely ignores the ubuntu entry. |
| 13:37.52 | v_v | IsoLnCHiP: np ;) |
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| 13:39.06 | nyl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPjMsJ8IfY |
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| 13:42.32 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: have you checked /var/log/messages for output from linux-boot-prober? |
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| 13:42.56 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: Oh, nm, you said it gives sensible output |
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| 13:43.39 | arand | IsoLnCHiP: /dev/mellu/ububoot:/dev/mellu/ububoot::/vmlinuz-2.6.38-6-generic:/initrd.img-2.6.38-6-generic:root=/dev/dm-4 Is a sensible output, right? |
| 13:44.17 | babelfatal | thanks Iridos, but cant A run a command or look in a list and see the default java installed with squeeze? |
| 13:45.11 | Iridos | babelfatal, something like dpkg -l |grep -i '^ii.*java' (but will also give you a lot of java-related libraries) |
| 13:45.21 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: Probably, though I wouldve expected the first and last column to match, but that shouldnt influence grub-update, at most the boot process later on |
| 13:45.43 | babelfatal | yeas I doen that but gave me alot of other java related stuff |
| 13:46.01 | babelfatal | shouldn't it be a meta package which one would remove? |
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| 13:46.04 | Iridos | IsoLnCHiP, my vimdiff works on directories... (just comparing their contents of course) |
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| 13:47.06 | IsoLnCHiP | Iridos: indeed, what I was hopeing that it would do is follow 'focus' when I switch dirs or select a file, which I couldnt make it do :) |
| 13:47.43 | Iridos | IsoLnCHiP, that sounds like something mc could possibly do (I've never used that, though) |
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| 13:47.52 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: So, in your /boot/grub/grub.cfg you dont get any lines for ubuntu? |
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| 13:48.06 | sacredchao | How do I find my currently configured IPv4 gateway address? It seems it is not in ifconfig output for whatever reason.... |
| 13:48.09 | itchi | Hi, is there somethings which will change the default Alsa audio card when plugging in my USB headset? Actually i need to do that by hand |
| 13:48.25 | arand | IsoLnCHiP: Nope |
| 13:48.25 | Iridos | sacredchao, /sbin/route -n |
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| 13:48.43 | IsoLnCHiP | Iridos: Was hopeing that too, but didnt find it yet, the compare dir, thats easily found in the menu obly highlights the files that differ |
| 13:49.00 | sacredchao | Iridos: <3 |
| 13:49.30 | Iridos | IsoLnCHiP, sounds like something a filemanager should be able to do (I never figured what those are good for anyway... this might be it) |
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| 13:50.19 | IsoLnCHiP | Iridos: :D hehe |
| 13:51.00 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: is there anything in the os-prober section when you run grub-mkonfig | less |
| 13:51.23 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: Oh, and am I correctly assuming you are using grub2? |
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| 13:51.45 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: aka the grub-pc package |
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| 13:52.01 | arand | IsoLnCHiP: Yes |
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| 13:52.21 | IsoLnCHiP | mc |
| 13:52.26 | IsoLnCHiP | upsy |
| 13:53.09 | IsoLnCHiP | agrees with his pal, that focus_follows_brain is a needed concept |
| 13:53.43 | arand | IsoLnCHiP: http://paste.debian.net/110558/ this is what it gives. |
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| 13:57.32 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: Hmm, ok, obviously its not checking the partition where ubuntu is installed, Im having trouble figuring out how it determines which partitions to check |
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| 13:58.41 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: If you dont care much for the automation part, you could just add it to a custom file in /etc/grub.d |
| 13:58.46 | kblessinggr | I can't find the PHP 5.2.x package on debian squeeze, seems to only be 5.3.3+ |
| 13:58.48 | arand | IsoLnCHiP: Hmm, I don't see actually where linux-boot-prober is executed. |
| 13:59.15 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: from /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober |
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| 14:01.38 | wp | hmmm 6.0 doesnt detect vmxnet3 from vmware |
| 14:02.19 | Iridos | judd, versions php5 |
| 14:02.21 | judd | Package php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; sid: 5.3.3-7; squeeze: 5.3.3-7; wheezy: 5.3.3-7; sid: 5.3.5-1 |
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| 14:02.41 | hrahimi | Hi, I have got a new notebook |
| 14:03.01 | hrahimi | I install debian 6 from netinstall and use grub on the master boot record |
| 14:03.31 | hrahimi | but, on boot it displays an ntldr not found message |
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| 14:04.05 | hrahimi | can anyone help me? |
| 14:04.49 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: what kind of partition is the ubuntu on? is it LVM? |
| 14:05.00 | hrahimi | its not ubuntu |
| 14:05.04 | hrahimi | its squeeze |
| 14:05.11 | hrahimi | it is a logical one |
| 14:05.13 | Iridos | kblessinggr, there are none, they are only in lenny... from that I would think 5.3.x is considered to be backwards-compatible |
| 14:05.20 | hrahimi | should I make a primary one? |
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| 14:05.41 | arand | IsoLnCHiP: ext3 /boot on LVM |
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| 14:06.36 | IsoLnCHiP | hrahimi: Sorry, was not talking to you ;) |
| 14:06.43 | Iridos | hrahimi, ntldr stands for nt loader... this is a windows message you're seeing |
| 14:07.01 | hrahimi | IsoLnCHiP, ok |
| 14:07.06 | Iridos | or a windows-bootloader message |
| 14:07.08 | hrahimi | I know |
| 14:07.16 | Iridos | so is this supposed to be dual-boot? |
| 14:07.21 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: does 'lvs' produce any output and is your boot part listed? |
| 14:07.30 | arand | IsoLnCHiP: Hang on, it seems that for linux-boot-probe to execute os-prober needs to find a linux bit, right? |
| 14:07.34 | hrahimi | Iridos, but why it does not load grub when it is on the master boot record? |
| 14:07.55 | hrahimi | Iridos, yes it is a dualboot |
| 14:08.09 | Iridos | hrahimi, I would think you didn't install grub to the MBR but to the bootsector of the partition... the windows-bootloader is still in the MBR and searching for some windowsy stuff to boot |
| 14:08.13 | arand | IsoLnCHiP: Yea, debain is installed on the same VG, so LVM is definitely up and running. |
| 14:08.15 | Iridos | and doesn't find it |
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| 14:08.27 | hrahimi | i installed it to /dev/sda |
| 14:08.35 | hrahimi | using grub-install |
| 14:08.50 | hrahimi | As long as i know it does it on the mbr Iridos |
| 14:08.53 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: And back to my questing, is it important for you that the automation picks up the ubuntu? Or would it suffice to add the ubuntu block manually? |
| 14:09.39 | arand | IsoLnCHiP: It would suffice yes, but there is a bug in here somewhere, and it bugs me :) |
| 14:09.48 | Iridos | hrahimi, perhaps not booting from sda then? |
| 14:10.00 | hrahimi | I have a single hdd |
| 14:10.04 | hrahimi | its a notebook |
| 14:10.12 | hrahimi | with a windows partiotion |
| 14:10.18 | hrahimi | a recovery partition |
| 14:10.19 | jelly-home | arand: you _could_ use the latest distro and its latest boot manager |
| 14:10.20 | hrahimi | a swap |
| 14:10.29 | hrahimi | and a / for linux |
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| 14:10.36 | hrahimi | I am not that noob |
| 14:10.41 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: hehe, I know the feeling :) |
| 14:10.44 | hrahimi | but it is strange , Iridos |
| 14:10.46 | jelly-home | arand: well... assuming you're able to boot it |
| 14:11.17 | hrahimi | grub-install /dev/sda has worked for me since I was on fedora 3 till now |
| 14:11.21 | hrahimi | with any linux |
| 14:11.24 | kblessinggr | Iridos that was one of the main reasons I had to go with 5.2.17 source compiled with FPM support because their script doesn't support 5.3 (the coders of it used a bunch of deprecated functions such as ereg_replace). And it seems I can't compile php 5.2.17 with aspx support because the apache2 package doesn't seem to be setup for apxs |
| 14:11.28 | hrahimi | distribution |
| 14:11.39 | arand | Yea, rebuilding a new grub might be worth a shot, and I'm going to check if os-prober does give linux results as well on the ubu install |
| 14:13.09 | jelly-home | judd: file bin/apxs* |
| 14:13.10 | Iridos | kblessinggr, you can always try to get the lenny source-package and build it for squeeze... (of fix the code using the deprecated functions, as the situation won't get better with time) |
| 14:13.12 | judd | bin/apxs* in squeeze/i386: apache2-threaded-dev: usr/bin/apxs2; apache2-prefork-dev: usr/bin/apxs2 |
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| 14:13.38 | kblessinggr | fixing the code ... out of the question seems everyone at socialengine.net and any module developers are lazy as hell |
| 14:13.40 | jelly-home | kblessinggr: verify you have any of the above packages actually installed, if you need apxs |
| 14:13.50 | hrahimi | Iridos, does anything cross your mind? |
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| 14:14.23 | kblessinggr | jelly-home k, checking |
| 14:15.15 | kblessinggr | any way I can modify the apache2-prefork-dev package so that its compiled with --enable-so ? |
| 14:15.32 | hrahimi | Iridos, I unplugged the external drive |
| 14:15.36 | hrahimi | and that worked |
| 14:15.43 | Iridos | hrahimi, not from what you said... it surely is a windows message, so either grub never gets loaded or it immediately loads the windows loader (probably the first).... |
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| 14:15.49 | Iridos | haha... so much for only one disk :) |
| 14:15.51 | kblessinggr | n/m had to add =/usr/bin/apxs2 |
| 14:15.53 | kblessinggr | to the php compile |
| 14:16.12 | hrahimi | Iridos, how stupid the installer is! |
| 14:18.15 | Iridos | nothing to do with the installer then... the computer was trying to boot from the external disk |
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| 14:20.18 | hrahimi | Iridos, no, there is nothing on the external disk that might raise a ntldr related error! |
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| 14:20.37 | hrahimi | Iridos, the grub should come up first if it is installed on the mbr |
| 14:20.43 | Iridos | but you said you just unplugged it and it booted |
| 14:21.11 | blackshirt | jelly-home: still there ? |
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| 14:23.07 | IsoLnCHiP | hrahimi: If |
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| 14:23.47 | blackshirt | hello |
| 14:23.53 | IsoLnCHiP | hrahimi: the external HD once was in a windows computer, even if you formatted it it might still have a MBR boot code, and some bioses change the HD order when connected as a USB drive |
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| 14:24.39 | blackshirt | jelly-home : still there ? |
| 14:24.48 | hrahimi | no |
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| 14:25.01 | hrahimi | IsoLnCHiP, it is brand new external usb drive :D |
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| 14:27.10 | IsoLnCHiP | hrahimi: Ok, maybe the manufacturer was so 'nice' as to preformat the MBR ;oP But seriously, if you get the NTLDR error with the USB attached, and not when disconnected, check the BIOS boot order and additionally maybe just install another grub to the external HD if you cant stop the BIOS from changing around the boot order |
| 14:27.47 | IsoLnCHiP | or of course just make you never to boot the laptop with the HD connected ,) |
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| 14:30.20 | Iridos | if dmidecode says "Type: ECC DIMM", is that really an indication that the memory does ECC or should I look for something else |
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| 14:32.39 | jelly-home | blackshirt: no, but if you have questions you can ask them in the channel |
| 14:33.09 | Iridos | if you're not there, how could you tell me before that I'm still offline? |
| 14:33.14 | epsilon | Iridos: count the number of chips. 8 = non-ECC, 9 = ECC |
| 14:33.33 | blackshirt | jelly-home: |
| 14:33.42 | blackshirt | okey |
| 14:33.56 | Iridos | epsilon, you mean on the hardware itself... hmm, difficult everything is tucked in neatly |
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| 14:34.21 | epsilon | Iridos: server hardware? |
| 14:35.14 | wp | hmmm why doesnt squeeze detect vmxnet3 adapters from vmware? |
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| 14:35.20 | wp | what a crap |
| 14:35.38 | Iridos | epsilon, no... just a regular desktop... I just wonder if the 4GB in there are ECC, if it would be worthwhile to try to get ECC memory for the two remaining slots, too |
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| 14:36.14 | jelly-home | wp: install vmware tools in the guest. |
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| 14:36.44 | wp | jelly-home: its a fresh install |
| 14:36.59 | jelly-home | wp: Yes. Install vmware tools in it. |
| 14:37.29 | wp | i guess the netinstall doesnt have vmtools? |
| 14:37.31 | epsilon | Iridos: workstations often use ECC too... I'd check the number of Chips / Label on the RAM, otherwise RTFM of Mainboard |
| 14:37.42 | jelly-home | wp: they are part of vmware! |
| 14:37.48 | jelly-home | not free software |
| 14:38.24 | wp | so how would i install vmware tools and compile them with a squeeze netinstall disk ? :) |
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| 14:38.58 | hrahimi | IsoLnCHiP, you know, let me see |
| 14:39.00 | Iridos | epsilon, well, 8 chips on each side, so maybe dmidecode lies |
| 14:39.13 | Iridos | (or, more likely, I don't read it right) |
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| 14:39.26 | hrahimi | IsoLnCHiP, OOOOOOoooooooooops!!! you are right! |
| 14:39.28 | wp | jelly-home: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562046 ? |
| 14:39.56 | ofauchon | Debian should provide a non-free installer (with all driver firmwares) .... What a waste of time !!! |
| 14:40.01 | IsoLnCHiP | hrahimi: Hehe, ok mystery solved |
| 14:40.21 | hrahimi | IsoLnCHiP, seagate! |
| 14:40.23 | petemc | ofauchon: there are unofficial installers with the firmware included |
| 14:40.31 | hrahimi | IsoLnCHiP, second hand hard drive? lol |
| 14:40.32 | jelly-home | wp: it's a bug closed in 2009 |
| 14:40.36 | hrahimi | IsoLnCHiP, :))) |
| 14:41.07 | Iridos | told you! |
| 14:41.17 | ofauchon | petemc, sure .. but I don't trust unofficial installers. |
| 14:41.18 | Iridos | there's no other explanation from what you described |
| 14:41.41 | petemc | ofauchon: then you should only use hardware that doesnt require non free software to function |
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| 14:41.50 | wp | jelly-home: ok, but i dont understand how i can install this now? ... :) |
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| 14:41.56 | jelly-home | wp: you seem to be running in a vmware guest. Use your vmware UI to mount the vmware tools image. |
| 14:42.10 | wp | yeah, but that doesnt insert the module for vmxnet3 |
| 14:42.18 | jelly-home | wp: yes it does. |
| 14:42.25 | ofauchon | petemc, you are right. But Debian should let you choose.... Not very complicated to maintain 2 installer free/non-free |
| 14:42.29 | wp | ok, let me test again just a sec |
| 14:42.29 | pipeline | jelly-home, wp : well, not exactly -- there's probably no pre-built modules |
| 14:42.51 | petemc | ofauchon: fwiw i find the lack of firmware annoying but the reasons its not included seem valid enough, its certainly been well debated |
| 14:43.02 | pipeline | wp: You will either need to isntall build-essential + linux-headers-`uname -r` from a CD, or change the NIC to e1000 for install-time |
| 14:43.05 | Iridos | epsilon, it's strange - all in dmidecode seems to hint that it does error correction http://pastebin.com/Q4VL7h74 |
| 14:43.36 | Iridos | epsilon, oh, does not "error correction capabilities: none" - well, confusing in any way |
| 14:43.40 | pipeline | wp: that said, I have never seen a huge difference between e1000 and vmxnet3. Maybe because I don't have any 10 gbps hosts yet. You're perfectly well-off to never bother with vmxnet3. |
| 14:43.50 | jelly-home | pipeline: oh, right, I only have lenny guests thus far |
| 14:44.15 | jelly-home | vSphere 4.0 has prebuilt drivers for lenny's kernels |
| 14:44.44 | wp | v6 has better performance with vmxnet3, but i will install with e1000 and change it later on, im a bit amazed that squeeze doesnt detect vmxnet3 with a netinstall cd |
| 14:45.10 | pipeline | wp: iirc vmxnet3 is a proprietary driver |
| 14:45.29 | jelly-home | that's a bit weird, since |
| 14:45.31 | jelly-home | /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686:CONFIG_VMXNET3=m |
| 14:45.40 | jelly-home | judd: kconfig VMXNET3 |
| 14:45.41 | judd | Searching for 'VMXNET3' in squeeze kernel config gives VMXNET3=m. |
| 14:45.46 | pipeline | wp: and again, I have never been able to demonstrate compelling performance differences between vmxnet3 and e1000. |
| 14:45.52 | epsilon | Iridos: check the manual of mainboard |
| 14:46.20 | pipeline | jelly-home, wp : now that IS weird. you would think vmxnet3 would be a common enough driver that you would want it on the netinstall |
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| 14:47.42 | jelly-home | I can check how a squeeze install in a guest fares on Monday, can't be bothered to do it in my free time |
| 14:47.50 | wp | pipeline: yes, that was my opinion too :) |
| 14:48.17 | jelly-home | but the existence of the driver makes it unusual for d-i not to be able to detect the card(s) |
| 14:48.27 | jelly-home | wp: tried modprobing it manually? |
| 14:48.46 | IsoLnCHiP | wp: maybe try the expert install and try manually loading the driver? Dont know if its on the disk though, maybe its just disabled from autoprobing |
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| 14:56.08 | ignotus | hi, I haven't used LaTeX for 5-6 years, today what LaTeX distribution should one use (with Debian?) |
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| 14:56.33 | rudi_s | ignotus: texlive |
| 14:56.43 | ignotus | rudi_s: thanks |
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| 14:56.47 | rudi_s | np |
| 14:56.56 | Iridos | I think there only is texlive now? |
| 14:57.12 | rudi_s | AFAIK yes. |
| 14:57.49 | wp | jelly-home: i give up and will use the e1000 or ubuntu ;) |
| 14:57.58 | Iridos | and of course a couple of latex(-like) smaller projects ... |
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| 15:01.14 | ignotus | I would like to create a table with LaTeX that is looooong (~30 pages), I remember that in the old times one needed special tabular package for this, is something like this included in texlive? (checking too) |
| 15:01.28 | ignotus | maybe it was supertables or something like that |
| 15:03.30 | Iridos | epsilon, what I have doesn't say... but counting after 8/side, it seems rather clear now, thanks for that |
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| 15:04.39 | flo` | hi |
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| 15:05.06 | flo` | can i use a ubuntu repository within my debian installation? i only use it for a program based on java, so it shouldn't have great dependency problems |
| 15:05.16 | flo` | but, does such a thing work? or will it break stuff massively? |
| 15:05.20 | Iridos | ignotus, latex modules and their names stayed the same, actually, they mostly _are_ the same... |
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| 15:06.03 | project2501a | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.40 | Iridos | flo`, we already told you it does break stuff a couple of days ago, IIRC... of course that mainly happens via dependencies (and their different names), so stuff like java programs or python scripts might work (but how will you ensure that no other stuff is pulled in?) |
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| 15:06.56 | ignotus | Iridos: thanks |
| 15:07.10 | engla | flo`: better install the app separately than adding the repo in that case |
| 15:07.27 | Iridos | !tell flo` about pinning |
| 15:08.05 | niteria | my debian suddenly stopped booting http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5421606/20110313246.jpg |
| 15:08.22 | flo` | Iridos, you didn't tell me that a couple of days ago. maybe you confuse me with another flo? |
| 15:08.29 | niteria | first ICH6 sais it sees hdc |
| 15:08.32 | Iridos | mmh, maybe |
| 15:08.48 | niteria | and then I have cannot open root device "hdc1" |
| 15:09.04 | Iridos | flo`, I remember your nick and I remember the question... perhaps I'm just mis-assigning the question to your nick |
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| 15:10.31 | flo` | Iridos, yeah, probably ;) |
| 15:10.44 | flo` | okay, so i'll install it seperately |
| 15:11.16 | flo` | is there some tool which helps me to keep non-repo-software up-to-date automatically? problem is, the program gets useless when it gets too old... |
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| 15:11.43 | Iridos | flo`, as I said... installing single packages without any dependencies on libraries should be fine... anything more is probably on the road to misery |
| 15:11.52 | IsoLnCHiP | niteria: what happened between it booting and it not booting? Kernel Update? Dist Upgrade? Seemingly nothing? |
| 15:11.59 | Iridos | flo`, stow |
| 15:12.05 | niteria | IsoLnCHiP: hardware change |
| 15:12.20 | Iridos | flo`, not helping you to keep it up-to date, but to keep it sorted and removable |
| 15:12.29 | niteria | IsoLnCHiP: but afaik everything went back to how it was |
| 15:12.33 | IsoLnCHiP | niteria: specifically which part? |
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| 15:13.15 | niteria | IsoLnCHiP: I connected other hdd and tried to clone the disc that was already in |
| 15:13.26 | flo` | Iridos, thanks, but for that use, checkinstall is also pretty nice (produces a .deb package) |
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| 15:13.56 | niteria | IsoLnCHiP: then I disconnected the target hdd |
| 15:14.03 | niteria | and it stopped booting |
| 15:14.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | is there anything besides grub and fstab that I need to take care of when copying an existing squeeze installation to a new hdd? |
| 15:14.11 | IsoLnCHiP | niteria: Yeah, guessed as much. in the top ICH6 not 100% native etc you see the HDs, it looks like you only have an ID HD connected and Im guessing stuff conencted via SATA? |
| 15:14.19 | Iridos | flo`, yes, that means it will go inside the packaging system... stow is for things you install outside the debian packaging system in /usr/local/ |
| 15:14.29 | niteria | IsoLnCHiP: yes |
| 15:14.39 | Iridos | flo`, although I found checkinstall often fails to detect all installed files |
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| 15:15.22 | IsoLnCHiP | ok, try changing the root= line to root=/dev/sda1 in your bootloader, that might do the trick |
| 15:15.43 | KaffeeJunky123 | I did just copy the / and /home partition over to partitions on the new drive using livecd, I then set the drives in fstab and chrooted into the copied linux to run install-grub and update-grub on the new drive, however I get a hell of a lot of gconf errors when booting from the new hdd |
| 15:15.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | and gdm doesn't seem to work properly |
| 15:15.58 | hamid | i can't find ] [ zepp^ ] |
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| 15:16.01 | niteria | IsoLnCHiP: its 2.4.35.3-grsec-1 kernel |
| 15:16.17 | hamid | oops :| sorry :| |
| 15:16.40 | IsoLnCHiP | KaffeeJunky123: when chrooting make sure that /proc and /sys are bind mounted to the target of your chroot mount |
| 15:16.41 | hamid | i can't find /usr/include/predefs.h on debian ( lenny ) |
| 15:16.52 | KaffeeJunky123 | IsoLnCHiP: install-grub wouldn't work without that |
| 15:16.55 | niteria | IsoLnCHiP: so probably sth along the line /dev/hdX |
| 15:17.02 | hamid | Does anyone know which package contains it ? |
| 15:17.03 | flo` | Iridos, really? does it mean they're missing after "checkinstall make install", or that they get installed, but not removed when removing the package? |
| 15:17.16 | KaffeeJunky123 | IsoLnCHiP: and you forgot about /dev :) |
| 15:17.44 | IsoLnCHiP | KaffeeJunky123: Hehe, indeed, I did, my bad ;) Was distracted and in a hurry ;oP |
| 15:17.57 | hamid | actaully /usr/include/bits/predefs.h |
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| 15:18.26 | IsoLnCHiP | KaffeeJunky123: Did you have /usr or /var on different partitions as well by chance? |
| 15:18.32 | uwazaki | hello |
| 15:18.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | IsoLnCHiP: nope I didn't, they're both on the root partition |
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| 15:19.23 | IsoLnCHiP | KaffeeJunky123: Hmm, odd. Maybe permission problems? Did you use rsync to copy? |
| 15:19.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | IsoLnCHiP: I used cp -r |
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| 15:20.57 | KaffeeJunky123 | IsoLnCHiP: because the new partition is ext4 and the old one was ext3, so I mounted them from the livecd system and copyied everything |
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| 15:21.33 | IsoLnCHiP | possibly something got messed up with the UIDs/GIDs by using cp or because of the live cd. If you can mount both again, you might want to run an rsync -ani over the partitions you copied |
| 15:22.22 | IsoLnCHiP | but check the man rsync, not 100% I got the right flags. I mean itemize and dry-run are the important ones in this case |
| 15:23.13 | KaffeeJunky123 | UID/GID=userids and groupids? |
| 15:23.27 | IsoLnCHiP | jepp |
| 15:23.55 | IsoLnCHiP | aditionally rsync would tell you if the permissions were copied correctly as well |
| 15:24.26 | IsoLnCHiP | Oh and maybe use the numeric ids flag or something |
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| 15:25.02 | lib34 | buenas |
| 15:25.04 | KaffeeJunky123 | IsoLnCHiP: ok I'll have a look at the rsync manpage |
| 15:25.06 | lib34 | tengo un problema |
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| 15:25.11 | lib34 | necesito reparar el grub |
| 15:25.30 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: use the debian installer cd or the super grub boot cd |
| 15:25.31 | lib34 | al hacer mount /dev/sda1 /mnt me muestra un error |
| 15:25.43 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: what error? |
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| 15:26.11 | lib34 | VFS: Cant find ext4 filesystem on dev sda1 |
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| 15:26.24 | lib34 | Lo he verificado con fdisk -l y si es sda1 |
| 15:27.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: that's not grub related what so ever |
| 15:27.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: but you're providing us to few information and my spanish is bad :) |
| 15:27.27 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: es |
| 15:27.27 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 15:27.44 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: No problem, I speak english |
| 15:28.04 | lib34 | What is your question? |
| 15:28.06 | joeb_ | anyone running x11vnc and if so how i have it start up at boot ? |
| 15:28.26 | lib34 | I lose the grub |
| 15:28.31 | jhutchins_lt | joeb_: I gave you three different web references for that yesterday. |
| 15:29.05 | joeb_ | jhutchins_lt- i think the ones you gave me where for the cli x11vnc .. when i installed x11vnc i found a gui in my menus |
| 15:29.21 | lib34 | root $ mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -->> VFS: Cant find ext4 filesystem on dev sda1 |
| 15:29.38 | lib34 | fdisk -l show sda1 like linux system |
| 15:29.40 | joeb_ | jhutchins- i have to rm debian last night .. i just reinstalled it .. i had big issues so i lost your links |
| 15:29.47 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: why do you want to mound /dev/sda1? what partition is supposed to be there and from what enviornment are you working? |
| 15:30.18 | lib34 | I have a usb storage live linux |
| 15:30.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | and you want to use it to restore grub? |
| 15:30.44 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: yes :) |
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| 15:31.01 | KaffeeJunky123 | where is your root partition located at? |
| 15:31.06 | KaffeeJunky123 | /dev/sda1? |
| 15:31.11 | lib34 | yes |
| 15:31.39 | lib34 | root $ mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -->> VFS: Cant find ext4 filesystem on dev sda1 |
| 15:31.44 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: can you copy the output of fdisk -l /dev/sda to some pastebin site please? |
| 15:31.51 | lib34 | no |
| 15:32.12 | lib34 | but I could write it |
| 15:32.17 | jhutchins_lt | joeb_: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/VNC-Server#head-a62534b6c5b0fecafb137b0606a429864432fee9 |
| 15:32.42 | lib34 | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System |
| 15:32.47 | jhutchins_lt | joeb_: http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise/4.4/x0.html |
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| 15:33.13 | AthomIk | lib34: aptitude install pastebinit after cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit |
| 15:33.20 | jhutchins_lt | joeb_: http://shared-app-vnc.sourceforge.net/sharedappvnc-linux.html#config |
| 15:33.32 | lib34 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.40 | joeb_ | jhutchins- thanks |
| 15:33.57 | emacsenlee | hi everybody |
| 15:34.02 | lib34 | AthomIk: I dont have Internet In the main linux computer, I am in my netbook |
| 15:34.47 | lib34 | AthomIk: privative drivers problems, forget it, the main problem is fix grub |
| 15:34.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: now that I'm thinking about it parted /dev/sda print all would be better |
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| 15:35.08 | cusco | hi folks |
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| 15:35.20 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: how do it that? |
| 15:35.26 | cusco | im in debian installer right now... tring to configure md raid |
| 15:35.45 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: I mean the output of said command, because it displays the fs type as well |
| 15:35.46 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: How I could do it that? |
| 15:35.49 | cusco | when I hit the installer option 'configure md devices' it does not load... |
| 15:35.50 | Iridos | flo`, they're missing when you install the package... I haven't used it for long, but that used to include all binary files in some cases... well, good if it works for you :) |
| 15:35.58 | cusco | I press ctrl + c and get back to the intaller menu |
| 15:36.33 | cusco | in the option: partition disks, I have been able to partition them md devices right |
| 15:36.37 | cusco | but I cannot install grub |
| 15:36.44 | cusco | the uuid is not found... |
| 15:37.12 | emacsenlee | i am using a router to connect internet,which holds adsl username and password on it ,but i cant connect to internet ,even unable to ping google dns server.do i need ppp(not pppoe,thats for adsl moderm,i think) |
| 15:37.47 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: How I could know the type for sda1? |
| 15:38.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: you can check it with parted or a similar tool |
| 15:38.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: parted /dev/sda print all should print all partitions on this device and their fstype |
| 15:39.25 | lib34 | parted /dev/sda1 or parted /dev/sda ? |
| 15:39.26 | jhutchins_lt | !reinstall grub |
| 15:39.27 | dpkg | See http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html. Boot a CD like <grml>, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map). Also ask me about <fixmbr> <rescue mode>. |
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| 15:40.11 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_lt: mounting of his root partition does fail with an error about it not being ext4 |
| 15:40.30 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: /dev/sda as I wrote |
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| 15:41.12 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: Welcome to parted..... -->> (parted) |
| 15:41.37 | emacsenlee | fdisk -l /dev/sda,that will show you information lib34 |
| 15:41.38 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: type print all |
| 15:41.44 | lib34 | check sda1? |
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| 15:42.34 | lib34 | File System for primary disk is void or null, Simply show nothing |
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| 15:43.30 | emacsenlee | what is fdisk -l /dev/sda show? |
| 15:43.34 | emacsenlee | lib34? |
| 15:43.40 | jhutchins_lt | lib34: What was the last thing you did before you had this problem? |
| 15:44.00 | jhutchins_lt | emacsenlee: fdisk only shows the partition type flags - in this case probably linux. |
| 15:44.16 | lib34 | emacsenlee: /dev/sda1 1 38913 312568641 83 Linux |
| 15:44.19 | emacsenlee | i guess he reinstalled windows |
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| 15:44.31 | lib34 | WTF |
| 15:44.33 | emacsenlee | etx3, |
| 15:44.56 | emacsenlee | ext3 |
| 15:45.00 | lib34 | emacsenlee: I am not a win user, I am debian user |
| 15:45.14 | jhutchins_lt | emacsenlee: You are not helping. |
| 15:45.32 | lib34 | maybe the HD is mailfaliure ? |
| 15:45.34 | emacsenlee | i am not |
| 15:45.38 | jhutchins_lt | lib34: I would see if it mounts as -t ext3 or -t ext2 |
| 15:45.48 | jhutchins_lt | lib34: It won't hurt to mount it either way. |
| 15:45.57 | lib34 | mm |
| 15:46.20 | lib34 | I think in the partition table is lose |
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| 15:47.12 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: did you do anything that could possibly cause this? |
| 15:47.41 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: and just try if the partition mounts as ext3 or ext2 as jhutchins suggested |
| 15:48.03 | lib34 | I think that the some hd is dead but Linux is installed in another hd |
| 15:48.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | so you do have more then one phyiscal hdd? |
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| 15:49.12 | lib34 | The hd deaded had the grub and this hd had been the primary disk |
| 15:49.21 | joeb_ | omg this touchpad |
| 15:49.26 | joeb_ | the mouse stops clicking |
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| 15:49.43 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: I have only 1 from 2 hd ok |
| 15:49.53 | joeb_ | is there a driver i can change or something |
| 15:49.57 | lib34 | I think so |
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| 15:50.54 | lib34 | I want install grub in the secundary disk |
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| 15:52.02 | KaffeeJunky123 | so your primary hdd failed and now you want to install grub on your secondary hdd to boot the linux from the primary o_O? |
| 15:52.14 | lib34 | no |
| 15:52.21 | lib34 | linux is istalled in the secundary disk |
| 15:52.27 | lib34 | my other linux |
| 15:52.48 | lib34 | the primary disk had a distro and my secundary another distro |
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| 15:55.00 | KaffeeJunky123 | lib34: /dev/sda1 is probably the wrong root partition then |
| 15:55.11 | KaffeeJunky123 | that would be your broken drive |
| 15:55.21 | KaffeeJunky123 | if your primary drive is hooked up to your sata1 plug |
| 15:55.24 | lib34 | ? |
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| 15:55.48 | lib34 | :-( |
| 15:56.00 | KaffeeJunky123 | I think we've a serve communication problem here |
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| 15:57.03 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: Yes, I undestand, my english level is low |
| 15:57.07 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: I know |
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| 15:58.00 | lib34 | KaffeeJunky123: I go to open the main computer and remove the hd for test the right hd plugin |
| 15:58.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | just use the debian installer cd and select rescue mode |
| 15:58.37 | KaffeeJunky123 | it'll then prompt you for your root partition at some point |
| 15:58.41 | lib34 | mmm |
| 15:58.41 | lib34 | ok |
| 15:59.00 | KaffeeJunky123 | you'll select the root partition of the linux installation on the secondary drive |
| 15:59.14 | KaffeeJunky123 | and then you'll select the reinstall grub option |
| 15:59.23 | lib34 | ok |
| 15:59.32 | emacsenlee | kaffeejunky123, i want to ask a question about pppoe |
| 15:59.36 | lib34 | I go to do it |
| 15:59.37 | lib34 | wait me |
| 16:00.04 | KaffeeJunky123 | you should also set your secondary hdd to be the boot drive in bios first |
| 16:00.12 | emacsenlee | i am using a router to connect internet,which holds adsl username and password on it ,but i cant connect to internet ,even unable to ping google dns server.do i need ppp(not pppoe,thats for adsl moderm,i think) |
| 16:00.20 | KaffeeJunky123 | or completly remove the old drive, unless you want to try to restore some data |
| 16:01.14 | lib34 | yes this is the better choise |
| 16:01.16 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: if you're using a router that does atablish an internet connection, you don't need to setup linux to do pppoe |
| 16:01.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | *etablish |
| 16:01.39 | emacsenlee | is ppp need? |
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| 16:01.50 | flo` | hi |
| 16:01.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: All you need is to configure the ethernet connection to your router correctly |
| 16:02.08 | flo` | is there a way to install a local .deb file while resolving all dependencies automatically? |
| 16:02.19 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: if your router supports dhcp this should happen automatically |
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| 16:02.31 | flo` | aptitude install-a-deb-file some.deb or something like that? |
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| 16:03.51 | emacsenlee | i can log in that router(it is an embeded linux),thats i have no problem connecting to router but data that should go through the router seems blocked |
| 16:04.24 | emacsenlee | i am not using dhcp |
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| 16:05.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: so you can access the router via a web interface? |
| 16:05.12 | emacsenlee | yes |
| 16:05.32 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: and it does have an internet connection? |
| 16:05.38 | emacsenlee | and ping 192.168.1.1(the router ip ) is ok |
| 16:06.01 | emacsenlee | yes,i can visit internet under windowsxp,lol |
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| 16:06.26 | emacsenlee | so the problem cant be the router |
| 16:06.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: did you have to install any drivers on windows? |
| 16:06.58 | emacsenlee | no ,i havent |
| 16:07.09 | KaffeeJunky123 | try dhcp then |
| 16:07.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | because windows can't magically get an ip adress from an unkown router without it |
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| 16:08.34 | emacsenlee | dhcp could be a solution,but why cant static ip work,could that be the problem of livecd? |
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| 16:09.33 | dbe | hi people . my iceweasel give segfault on 0x00007fffd416492e in XF86DRIQueryVersion () |
| 16:09.33 | dbe | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.34 | emacsenlee | i am testing hardware compatability using lxde-live cd |
| 16:09.38 | dbe | how do i fix for this |
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| 16:11.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: when does this happen? |
| 16:11.26 | emacsenlee | is gate way a must for data to go through router? |
| 16:11.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: well |
| 16:12.06 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: how should it know your routers ip without you entering it? |
| 16:12.13 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: since you don't want to use dhcp |
| 16:12.39 | dbe | when i view flash on youtube KaffeeJunky123 |
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| 16:12.57 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: enter your routers ip as default gateway, and you need a dns server and set your ip adress to a proper one |
| 16:13.05 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: one that is in the subnet of your router |
| 16:13.25 | emacsenlee | thats funny i dont have to set router ip under windows ,why should i setup this in linux? |
| 16:13.34 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: do you have a 32bit or 64bit system? |
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| 16:13.39 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: because windows is using dhcp |
| 16:13.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: just set your connection to use dhcp and you're fine ^^ |
| 16:14.27 | emacsenlee | noooooo,windows is using static ip |
| 16:14.32 | dbe | KaffeeJunky123, i have 64 bit system |
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| 16:14.39 | emacsenlee | both 192,168,1,3 |
| 16:14.49 | emacsenlee | and router is 192,168,1,1 |
| 16:14.52 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: what graphiccard drivers are you using? |
| 16:15.17 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: so you did set the ip? |
| 16:15.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: in windows? |
| 16:15.35 | emacsenlee | http://www.webupd8.org/2009/07/how-to-fix-full-screen-flash-videos-in.html for dbe |
| 16:15.41 | emacsenlee | yes |
| 16:15.42 | dbe | KaffeeJunky123, i use inboard ati card |
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| 16:16.06 | emacsenlee | how to setup gateway? |
| 16:16.08 | Iridos | any nice program in debian to watch wifi intensity over time? |
| 16:16.17 | syn4pse | route add default gw 123.123.123.123 |
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| 16:16.33 | syn4pse | @ emacsenlee |
| 16:16.46 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: if you're using networkmanager there's a nice gui to setup everything |
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| 16:17.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee: just rightclick on the networkmanager applet and select configure connections, select your ethernet connection and in there you can set your ip adress, default gateway and dns server etc |
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| 16:18.12 | dbe | emacsenlee> i need to fix the full screen in flash? |
| 16:18.13 | Iridos | (wifi-radar just seems to show 100% signal all the time, while the gnome-thingy does not, nor does iwlist scan) |
| 16:18.27 | emacsenlee1 | lxde-livecd dont have that gui...... |
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| 16:19.19 | emacsenlee1 | i was disconnected for a while ,any information for me? |
| 16:20.19 | dbe | KaffeeJunky123> do you know what is wrong there? |
| 16:20.38 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: probably a problem with your graphiccard driver |
| 16:20.43 | emacsenlee1 | what is your iceweasel version? |
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| 16:20.58 | concrete | good morning all |
| 16:20.59 | dbe | i use latest version |
| 16:21.04 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: that's why I'm asking what driver you are using |
| 16:21.09 | dbe | oh |
| 16:21.21 | dbe | Mozilla Iceweasel 3.5.16, |
| 16:21.28 | dbe | this is what i'm using |
| 16:21.34 | concrete | can anyone help me wuth NLSU2 i can telnet into it but i cant add packages? |
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| 16:22.06 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: there are binary drivers from ati or the radeonhd open source driver |
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| 16:22.28 | emacsenlee1 | and with gpu acceleration ,i guess dbe |
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| 16:22.39 | dbe | oh |
| 16:23.34 | emacsenlee1 | #!/bin/sh |
| 16:23.35 | emacsenlee1 | LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 firefox |
| 16:23.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee1: that's probably not going to help |
| 16:24.03 | KaffeeJunky123 | emacsenlee1: do you even know what LD_PRELOAD is? |
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| 16:24.14 | emacsenlee1 | put above 2 lines in a script might solve problem |
| 16:24.30 | dbe | i tried it already emacsenlee1 |
| 16:24.34 | emacsenlee1 | dont know ,i just googled |
| 16:24.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | it doesn't help |
| 16:24.38 | dbe | env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 iceweasel |
| 16:24.46 | dbe | some with this right? |
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| 16:25.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: did you install the ati drivers with an installation script? |
| 16:25.34 | dbe | nope |
| 16:25.49 | cusco | jhutchins_lt: tried the grub-install like dpkg stated. grub-probe keeps saying 'unknown filesystem', I am using ext4 and md raid |
| 16:25.57 | dbe | debian auto configure the graphic card driver for me |
| 16:26.04 | cusco | md partition is over a TB, is that a problem' |
| 16:26.06 | cusco | ? |
| 16:26.18 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: ok, it's probably using the opensource drivers then |
| 16:26.19 | jhutchins_lt | cusco: Perhaps your initrd is missing the raid driver. |
| 16:26.32 | dbe | KaffeeJunky123, we don't use xorg.conf anymore, how do i check? |
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| 16:26.54 | cusco | jhutchins_lt: I think that would only matter while trying to boot ... Im only trying to install grub |
| 16:26.58 | dbe | i want to know what graphic card driver it 's currently using |
| 16:27.10 | cusco | grub-probe checks for initrd? |
| 16:27.25 | jhutchins_lt | cusco: legacy grub has problems with raid. Are you using grub2 on squeeze? |
| 16:27.34 | cusco | yes |
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| 16:28.30 | joeb_ | !w32codecs |
| 16:28.30 | dpkg | w32codecs (w64codecs for amd64 systems) is a <non-free> package not distributed by Debian due to legal issues. It provides binary-only <codecs> for several multimedia formats, such as DivX ;-), RealAudio/RealVideo and Windows Media. To acquire, ask me about <debian-multimedia>. If you are looking for similar plugins for <gstreamer>, then look at the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg packages. |
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| 16:29.17 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for "X.Org Video Driver" |
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| 16:30.29 | cusco | jhutchins_lt: http://paste.debian.net/110568/ can you perhaps understand? |
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| 16:31.15 | dbe | KaffeeJunky123, it loads lot of modules in here |
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| 16:31.23 | dbe | (II) LoadModule: "ati" |
| 16:31.30 | dbe | (II) LoadModule: "radeon" |
| 16:31.35 | dbe | (II) LoadModule: "vesa" |
| 16:31.43 | dbe | which one do i use |
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| 16:32.16 | zxd_ | "Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze." remove volatile and backports completly or change to squeeze |
| 16:32.18 | zxd_ | the names |
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| 16:34.14 | jhutchins_lt | zxd: comment them out. |
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| 16:34.42 | KaffeeJunky123 | dbe: I'm not sure what modules it is supposed to load for an ati card |
| 16:34.47 | dbe | oh |
| 16:34.56 | jhutchins_lt | !squeeze volatile |
| 16:34.56 | dpkg | The Debian <Volatile> archive is discontinued starting from Debian 6.0, replaced by the squeeze-updates suite on official mirrors. Your squeeze sources.list could have "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free". http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates . Not to be confused with <squeeze/updates>, ask me about <security>. |
| 16:35.23 | dbe | this happened when i upgraded debian |
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| 16:35.30 | jhutchins_lt | zxd_: See above. Neither updates nor backports is very active yet. |
| 16:35.47 | jhutchins_lt | !ati |
| 16:35.47 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <radeonhd>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 16:37.22 | jhutchins_lt | dbe: If you can provide us with the pciid (lspci -nn)we can identify the correct driver. |
| 16:37.50 | dbe | 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc 760G [Radeon 3000] [1002:9616] |
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| 16:38.40 | jhutchins_lt | ,pciid 1002:9616 |
| 16:38.40 | judd | [1002:9616] is '760G [Radeon 3000]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'radeon' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:9616 http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and the out-of-tree 'fglrx', 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 16:39.09 | joeb_ | !libdvdccs4 |
| 16:39.11 | joeb_ | !libdvdccs2 |
| 16:39.17 | joeb_ | oops |
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| 16:40.26 | jhutchins_lt | joeb_: /msg dpkg |
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| 16:44.05 | dbe | jhutchins_lt, i have a question, why i have to remove /etc/x11/xorg.conf for my x to start? |
| 16:44.15 | dbe | they don't use xorg.conf anymore? |
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| 16:44.53 | joeb_ | wierd |
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| 16:46.31 | joeb_ | jhutchins_lt- i have all that but not w32codecs |
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| 16:46.36 | joeb_ | so wierd .. i followed those guides |
| 16:46.46 | dbe | let me restart x |
| 16:46.47 | dbe | thanks guys |
| 16:47.56 | joeb_ | aw its vlc |
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| 16:53.19 | jhutchins | db2 |
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| 16:57.54 | miguel000 | I have a clean debian install. what do I need to get audio working? |
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| 17:01.17 | cusco | miguel000: unmute it |
| 17:01.41 | miguel000 | cusco: how? |
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| 17:01.59 | cusco | alsamixer for instance |
| 17:02.08 | cusco | comes with alsa-utilz |
| 17:02.09 | cusco | comes with alsa-utils |
| 17:02.19 | miguel000 | ok, so Ill get this utils |
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| 17:02.47 | cusco | or if you're using gnome you can use gnome mixer |
| 17:03.24 | cusco | gnome-volume-control.gstreamer (I think) |
| 17:03.59 | miguel000 | alsamixer will be fine, I do not use gnome |
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| 17:08.52 | miguel000 | i unmuted everything with alsamixer and set it to maximum, but still can not hear ANYTHING |
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| 17:09.42 | everyone | miguel000, Are you playing anything? |
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| 17:10.10 | iluminator101 | is libreoffice in debian repos now? |
| 17:10.15 | miguel000 | everyone: yes, i play an mp3 with mplayer |
| 17:10.40 | everyone | mplayer is known to be problematic. |
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| 17:11.07 | miguel000 | everyone: so what do you suggest for testing? |
| 17:11.08 | dbe | hey guys, thanks it worked :) |
| 17:11.16 | MrFrood | miguel000: alsactl init |
| 17:11.47 | iluminator101 | is libreoffice in debian repos now? |
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| 17:12.10 | miguel000 | what package ships with alsactl? |
| 17:12.36 | miguel000 | ah ok its also in alsa-utils |
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| 17:13.09 | MrFrood | mplayer can produce excelent results playing mp3's but you do need to read the man to get the best out of it |
| 17:13.42 | everyone | MrFrood, Isn't the MP3 option patent encumbered? |
| 17:13.45 | miguel000 | it works now, after doint the alsactl init |
| 17:13.56 | miguel000 | s/doint/doing |
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| 17:14.25 | MrFrood | depends where in the world you are |
| 17:14.27 | miguel000 | thx |
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| 17:15.26 | dagnachewa | hi al;l |
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| 17:15.30 | dagnachewa | anyone here ethiopian origin or rwanda ? I would like to spread linux overthere |
| 17:15.40 | miguel000 | another problem I have is to get the flashplayer running in iceweasel under squeeze |
| 17:16.29 | MrFrood | miguel000: have you enabled contrib & non-free in your sources.list |
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| 17:16.35 | miguel000 | I thought its as simple as putting the libflashplyer.so in the proper directroy |
| 17:16.48 | miguel000 | oh is there a package? |
| 17:16.56 | miguel000 | i only enabled non-free so far |
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| 17:17.42 | miguel000 | ok, I enabled it now |
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| 17:17.48 | miguel000 | but what is the name of the package I need> |
| 17:17.49 | miguel000 | ? |
| 17:17.49 | MrFrood | yes there is a package (two actually, one in non-free and one at debian-multimedia.org) |
| 17:18.00 | flo` | hi |
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| 17:18.19 | MrFrood | miguel000: aptitude search |
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| 17:18.38 | flo` | how can i remove all packages from apt's cache which are no longer installed? |
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| 17:18.56 | flo` | autoclean seems to keep files which are uninstalled, but still up-to-date |
| 17:19.11 | miguel000 | I got it thx |
| 17:19.20 | themill | dpkg: tell flo` about purge |
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| 17:19.58 | flo` | themill, that wasn't the answer to my question. |
| 17:20.08 | flo` | the cache files are still kept, even if the package itself is purged |
| 17:20.20 | flo` | (i'm talking about /var/cache/apt/archives/ ) |
| 17:20.57 | themill | flo`: ahh... apt-get clean will clean out all of them; there's no intermediate step for cleaning only packages that aren't installed. |
| 17:21.20 | flo` | clean removes too much |
| 17:21.28 | flo` | autoclean removes too less (but is ways better) |
| 17:21.58 | cusco | clean removes only not installed packages |
| 17:22.06 | MrFrood | I think aptitude clean has some options you might want to check the man page |
| 17:22.06 | cusco | (like old version stuff) |
| 17:23.00 | flo` | "clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file from /var/cache/apt/archives/ ..." |
| 17:23.18 | flo` | this sounds to me like it erases _everything_, and does not keep installed packages |
| 17:23.34 | flo` | from apt-gets manpage |
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| 17:25.34 | MrFrood | flo`: autoclean? |
| 17:25.48 | flo` | autoclean does not remove files of packages which aren't installed any more |
| 17:25.55 | flo` | but autoclean is a good beginning ;) |
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| 17:26.40 | sidh | Greetings |
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| 17:30.31 | sidh | I would need your advice, I want to install debian testing on my desktop which has a inte pro 1000 adapter (e1000 driver) , so i first download a burned the netinst iso , but i realized my NIC is not detected, so i used a slitaz live distro to retrive from intel the tar.gz source and build the driver and put the .ko in order to insmod/modprobe it, but failed (invalid module format). Now I've enough lost time just for an OS install, I would like to know if i do |
| 17:31.47 | sidh | in other word, does the e1000 driver does part of debian testing iso cdrom ? |
| 17:32.10 | jhutchins_lt | sidh: Some of the e1000's need firmware. |
| 17:32.11 | Iridos | flo`, both of them only erase your local copy of .deb files, they do not touch any installed files of any package |
| 17:32.18 | jhutchins_lt | !firmware |
| 17:32.18 | dpkg | Firmware (sometimes termed "microcode") is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel modules require firmware to be provided from userspace, prior to device operation, notably for <WiFi> devices. Ask me about <listkeys firmware> and <search> my factoids. Some firmware is available via Debian packages. See also http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware and <installer firmware>. |
| 17:32.20 | peterrooney | flo`: you could try cd /var/cache/apt/archives ; for i in $( ls | awk -F_ '{print $1;} ' ) ; do dpkg -l $i | grep -q ^ii || rm ${i}_* |
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| 17:33.13 | jhutchins_lt | !e1000 |
| 17:33.13 | dpkg | [e1000] the Intel PRO/1000 driver, included included in mainline Linux kernels. Driver can alternatively be built out-of-tree using sources from http://sf.net/projects/e1000/files/e1000%20stable/ . See also <e1000e>, <igb>, <ixgbe>. |
| 17:33.17 | peterrooney | darts eyes about nervously, hoping #bash didn't see that |
| 17:33.21 | sidh | jhutchins_lt: it is directly recognized wth FreeBSD out of the box (em driver) |
| 17:33.38 | Iridos | what would be the point of keeping .deb files of packages that are installed? you can always use dpkg-repack to re-create them from the existing installation... (also, you can always download them again from the snapshots repository) |
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| 17:34.13 | jhutchins_lt | sidh: The firmware does not meet Debians Free Software standards and so is distributed separately. |
| 17:34.19 | peterrooney | flo`: ; done |
| 17:34.30 | jhutchins_lt | sidh: Other distributions have different standards. |
| 17:34.50 | flo` | peterrooney, ok, thanks :) |
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| 17:35.18 | jhutchins_lt | sidh: Not all e1000s need the firmware for normal functions, but if you're having problems that could be it. |
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| 17:35.31 | MrFrood | isn't there an unoffical disk with the non-free firmware on it? |
| 17:35.34 | sidh | jhutchins_lt: so even with the full CD1.iso , i will stuck with this not enough open firmware so not included in debian ? |
| 17:35.46 | daemonkeeper | MrFrood: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 17:36.03 | daemonkeeper | (Same for sidh) |
| 17:36.03 | jhutchins_lt | sidh: See dpkg's message about firmware above. |
| 17:36.14 | Zao | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ <- note the big yellow box |
| 17:36.58 | daemonkeeper | Oh, the box is new |
| 17:36.58 | jhutchins_lt | Perhaps we should update that e1000 factoid... |
| 17:37.08 | sidh | jhutchins_lt: sorry i don't understand how to ask about listkeys firmware |
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| 17:37.21 | jhutchins_lt | sidh: /msg dpkg listkeys firmware |
| 17:37.33 | sidh | oh ok thanks |
| 17:38.33 | flo` | does it confuse a lenny system when i put some squeeze-files into its package cache? |
| 17:38.45 | flo` | or are these files silently ignored? |
| 17:38.46 | jhutchins_lt | flo`: Yes. |
| 17:38.52 | jhutchins_lt | flo`: Do not mix releases. |
| 17:38.56 | jhutchins_lt | flo`: Either upgrade or backport. |
| 17:39.00 | flo` | jhutchins_lt, i do not install them |
| 17:39.07 | flo` | i just put them into its cache |
| 17:39.29 | flo` | i assume, as long as they only lie around there, they aren't touched, right? |
| 17:39.44 | daemonkeeper | You mean /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 17:39.49 | flo` | daemonkeeper, yes |
| 17:39.55 | jhutchins_lt | Why? |
| 17:40.13 | daemonkeeper | I don't see how that should be useful, but yes, you might do that. |
| 17:40.19 | flo` | i have two debian machines. one is already upgraded, the other will be upgraded soon. |
| 17:40.31 | sidh | thanks daemonkeeper |
| 17:40.35 | flo` | however, i don't want to download all that stuff again, so i copied the cache. |
| 17:40.57 | Iridos | flo`, it should find them there on upgrading |
| 17:41.05 | flo` | okay, cool :) |
| 17:41.15 | themill | flo`: the cache is completely ignore in the dependency resolution steps -- it's only looked at when apt decides it's time to fetch a specific version of a .deb. |
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| 17:41.25 | flo` | okay, cool :) |
| 17:41.29 | flo` | thanks |
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| 17:42.28 | Iridos | flo`, there's stuff like apt-cacher if you have that more often /msg dpkg apt-cacher-ng (I haven't used that yet, though) |
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| 17:44.21 | flo` | i have only two machines, and apt-cacher seems to be overkill ;) |
| 17:44.58 | flo` | the download time is only relevant when upgrading. when only installing new software, i rather wait a minute than setting up such a cache server ;) |
| 17:45.02 | flo` | but thanks for the hint :) |
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| 17:47.05 | jhutchins_lt | flo`: Actually, that makes pretty good sense. I don't know on what occasions the cache gets cleared out though, so I would probably put them in some other directory until I was ready to upgrade. |
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| 17:47.27 | flo` | i have no server |
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| 17:47.32 | flo` | no box which is running all the time |
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| 17:48.37 | Iridos | jhutchins_lt, it only gets totally cleared when you request it... there is additionally a limit (default is 2GB, iirc), which will make apt remove the oldest packages if the cache uses up more space |
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| 17:49.28 | jhutchins_lt | Iridos: So what will it make of "alien" packages from a different release? WIll it see them as "newer" and preserve them? |
| 17:49.48 | trebor_home | hello. i try to generate an all-including usb-hd installation-medium. i read the installation manual and some google hits, but i am somehow unsure how to proceed. i did (0) partitioning (1) installed and adapting boot-loader lilo (2) copied vmlinuz & initrd.gz (3) copied everything from dvd 1-8 to hd. what else do i have to do now? do i have to merge some index-files etc? |
| 17:49.54 | arand | I have debian and ubu both installed on a LVM, if I run os-prober from ubuntu it sees debian, but running os-prober from debian doesn't pick up ubuntu (however, linux-boot-prober does), as far as I can tell os-prober itself is the same, what does os-prober depend on to do it's magic? |
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| 17:50.31 | Iridos | jhutchins_lt, no idea, I don't have those.. |
| 17:50.42 | eshat | can't the bc calculator use multiple cores ? |
| 17:52.19 | themill | jhutchins_lt, Iridos: that max cache size is disabled by default; the largest size .debs are deleted to get it under the limit, according to the documentation. |
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| 17:52.35 | Iridos | jhutchins_lt, man apt.conf, search for Cache-Limit |
| 17:52.36 | jelly-home | arand: have you filed a bug against it, yet? |
| 17:53.00 | Iridos | argh, that is something else, I think |
| 17:53.10 | Iridos | yeah, is |
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| 17:54.42 | jelly-home | eshat: you can run N instances of bc from a script, where N equals the number of cores. Voilà ! Parallel computing. |
| 17:55.41 | arand | jelly-home: Not yet |
| 17:55.52 | jelly-home | eshat: I can provide a reference implementation under 8 hours of work, $100/hr. /msg me in private if you're interested. |
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| 17:56.27 | jelly-home | arand: is the os-prober in ubuntu a newer release than the one in Debian? |
| 17:56.34 | joeb_ | any of you guys have gmail and if so do you have it on your debian machine or just check it via gmail ? |
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| 17:57.22 | trebor_home | debian6 install from usb-hd only -> what else do i have to do after installing lilo & copying the dvds to the usb-hd? |
| 17:57.32 | Iridos | themill, disabled? that can't be, that would mean the apt archives grow indefinitely? |
| 17:57.40 | jelly-home | joeb_: gmail can be accessed via standard imap4 and submission services. Do you have a technical question about it? |
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| 17:58.07 | themill | Iridos: that's my understanding, yes. |
| 17:58.14 | joeb_ | jelly-home- i was thinking of setting it up .. but my past experience im tired of pressing f10 or f9 i think |
| 17:58.23 | sidh | i found the non free firmware deb package, i put them on usb stick and mount it in the netinstaller session |
| 17:58.35 | jelly-home | joeb_: would did those do for you? |
| 17:58.40 | jelly-home | s/would/what/ |
| 17:58.49 | sidh | but from the netinstaller, iit seems there is no dpkg command available ? |
| 17:58.56 | arand | jelly-home: No, seems to be exactly the same version, so I'm guessing the problem lies in how the LVM/partition data is presented to it... |
| 17:59.15 | SerajewelKS | sidh: not unless you chroot into an installed system |
| 17:59.41 | jelly-home | arand: or your current debian kernel doesn't support btrfs and for some reason os-prober wants to take a look at the root fs. |
| 18:00.17 | sidh | ok so for doing a fresh install i have to chroot an installed system ? hmmmmmm |
| 18:00.32 | Iridos | jhutchins_lt/themill "APT::Archives::MaxSize" and "APT::Archives::MaxAge" seem to be the relevant options, set in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archive |
| 18:00.34 | themill | Iridos: this is all implemented in /etc/cron.daily/apt; have a look over it yourself. |
| 18:00.34 | arand | jelly-home: I can mount the btrfs fine though and I have btrfs-tools |
| 18:01.00 | themill | Iridos: that file doesn't exist on my squeeze install |
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| 18:01.37 | jelly-home | arand: well, so much about that guess |
| 18:02.02 | arand | :/ |
| 18:02.02 | dselect | ~/ is your home dir silly!, or root, of all Unix |
| 18:02.02 | apt | ...but / is already something else... |
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| 18:02.40 | jelly-home | arand: nice bot combo! |
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| 18:03.19 | themill | dselect: die |
| 18:03.26 | jelly-home | harsh |
| 18:03.29 | themill | yeah well |
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| 18:05.41 | trebor_home | installation from usb-hd only -> oh my, should i have copied the .iso files to the hd? |
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| 18:08.07 | jelly-home | ,versions rtorrent |
| 18:08.08 | judd | Package rtorrent on i386 -- lenny: 0.7.9-2.2; squeeze: 0.8.6-1; wheezy: 0.8.6-1; sid: 0.8.7-5+b1 |
| 18:08.38 | jelly-home | no squeeze-backports?!?!?!?!? |
| 18:09.03 | jelly-home | or even lenny-backports |
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| 18:15.49 | glickster | hey to install debian i just need the first cd right? |
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| 18:16.47 | ZykoticK9 | glickster, correct |
| 18:17.03 | jhutchins_lt | trebor_home: If you used the usb image then yes. If you used the CD image, no. |
| 18:17.06 | Iridos | themill, hm, it is on mine... that's part of the gnome desktop notifier, it seems update-notifier-common: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archive |
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| 18:17.47 | Iridos | also... |
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| 18:17.53 | Iridos | themill, bot-killer! |
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| 18:19.54 | trebor_home | jhutchins: i used neither of them. i installed lilo & copied everything from the dvds to the usb-hd (i try to make a usb-hd-only installation medium). |
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| 18:20.41 | jhutchins_lt | trebor_home: Good luck, you're in uncharted territory. |
| 18:20.54 | themill | Iridos: ahh.... I burnt update-notifier with fire... that would explain why I don't have it. |
| 18:21.21 | Iridos | themill, should be in the usual desktop installs, though |
| 18:21.47 | Iridos | themill, (and I think a default limit ain't a bad idea either) |
| 18:21.48 | themill | indeed |
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| 18:22.27 | raz | what was the link of that security scare list again? |
| 18:22.27 | raz | (that lists unpatched stuff) |
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| 18:22.44 | themill | !tracker of doom |
| 18:22.44 | dpkg | i guess tracker of doom is The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/. Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan>.read http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ or http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences |
| 18:22.51 | raz | ah thx |
| 18:22.57 | raz | why is that not linked on the security page on debian.org? |
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| 18:23.59 | IsoLnCHiP | arand: WB, btw do you get any output from os-prober? |
| 18:24.41 | themill | raz: it is -- last line before "Contact Information" header on http://www.debian.org/security/ |
| 18:25.01 | raz | ooh |
| 18:25.08 | raz | down there :D |
| 18:25.17 | trebor_home | jhutchins_lt: chapter 6.3.1.4. seems to hint that way ... |
| 18:26.26 | raz | also what's an easy way to count all packages? |
| 18:26.37 | raz | aptitude search ".*" | wc -l gives me 32238 |
| 18:26.41 | IsoLnCHiP | I noticed that on my box I dont get output from os-prober but from linux-boot-prober |
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| 18:27.02 | raz | dpkg -l "*" gives me only 2187 |
| 18:27.02 | dpkg | ii "*" gives me only 2187 3.1-13.2 raz's private stamp collection |
| 18:27.22 | raz | lol?! |
| 18:28.24 | cusco | raz: aptitude search is searching the repos, while dpkg -l, list local installed (or so) packages |
| 18:28.32 | cusco | im still failling to install grub |
| 18:28.45 | cusco | grub says grub-probe fails: http://paste.debian.net/110568/ |
| 18:28.49 | cusco | this is the output from grub-probe. im using md raid and ext4 |
| 18:28.51 | cusco | that worked before when squeeze was still testing |
| 18:28.57 | cusco | I need help |
| 18:29.20 | cusco | also the partition md raid partition is bigger than 1TB, is that a issue? |
| 18:29.25 | themill | raz: dpkg only tells you about packages that are installed or not purged and forgotten. |
| 18:29.27 | cusco | should I make a separate /boot partition? |
| 18:30.02 | jhutchins_lt | cusco: Up to you. |
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| 18:33.43 | cusco | I'll try |
| 18:33.48 | jelly-home | cusco: care to pastebin your /proc/mdstat? |
| 18:33.55 | cusco | sure, hold |
| 18:34.03 | cusco | (I was about to delete the raid) |
| 18:34.23 | cusco | jelly-home: tho Im sure its fine as I can mount it with some live cd, after mdadm -A -s |
| 18:34.32 | cusco | but hold |
| 18:34.49 | jelly-home | cusco: I'm not sure if this is the case now, but grub2 up until some 6 months ago could only deal with MD metadata formats 0.9 and 1.0 |
| 18:35.19 | raz | so, is there an easy way to get a list of all packages security backports for stable? |
| 18:35.30 | jelly-home | cusco: it also couldn't deal with partitioned MD devices (where whole disk = member and the array itself gets partitioned) |
| 18:35.33 | toffzen | Hello. I'm upgrading from squeeze to testing. I changed the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list and did 'apt-get update'. That gave me some errors saying that 'testing-updates not found'. I checked to ftp server and there were only 'squeeze-testing' and 'testing-proposed-testing'. Should I change the repository in sources.list or comment the lines out? |
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| 18:38.37 | cusco | jelly-home: http://paste.debian.net/110577 |
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| 18:40.19 | jelly-home | cusco: yeah, MD 1.2 probably still doesn't work (but it's default for mdadm tool in squeeze) |
| 18:40.33 | jelly-home | cusco: and by "doesn't work" I mean "with grub2" |
| 18:40.36 | cusco | jelly-home: last time I made it work, I made partitions on the disk first, and then made arrays from those partitions |
| 18:40.40 | cusco | just like now |
| 18:40.59 | jelly-home | cusco: make a separate /boot. Make it a 0.9 MD RAID1 |
| 18:41.20 | jelly-home | that's the most safe approach |
| 18:41.23 | cusco | how to make it a 0.9 ? |
| 18:41.31 | jelly-home | mdadm -e0.9 |
| 18:41.36 | jelly-home | (also, rtfm) |
| 18:41.39 | cusco | yes |
| 18:41.44 | cusco | ok then, Ill try |
| 18:41.45 | cusco | thanks |
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| 18:42.36 | jelly-home | cusco: I'd also make the big one a 1.0 format, but it _should_ be enough to make just /boot compatible, using grub2 from squeeze |
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| 18:47.21 | joeb_ | whats a good email cleint for debian .. i know are lots but im using gnome |
| 18:47.38 | cusco | thunderbird |
| 18:47.39 | jelly-home | not evolution |
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| 18:47.51 | AimHere | I use sylpheed, which does what little I ask of it |
| 18:47.52 | jelly-home | ,versions icedove |
| 18:47.53 | judd | Package icedove on i386 -- lenny: 2.0.0.24-0lenny1; lenny-security: 2.0.0.24-0lenny1; squeeze: 3.0.11-1+b1; squeeze-security: 3.0.11-1+squeeze1; sid: 3.0.11-2; wheezy: 3.0.11-2; experimental: 3.1.9-1 |
| 18:48.01 | cusco | yes I meant icedove sorry |
| 18:48.22 | jelly-home | joeb_: Debian packages thunderbird under the "icedove" name |
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| 18:49.13 | jelly-home | joeb_: it's best not to ask why, but if you feel a need to, type in "/msg dpkg why icedove" in your irc client |
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| 18:49.54 | joeb_ | *dpkg* bugger all, i dunno |
| 18:50.42 | cusco | jelly-home: how big should (at least) a /boot be? |
| 18:50.42 | cusco | :p |
| 18:50.48 | Iridos | joeb_, try "why iceweasel" instead |
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| 18:50.50 | cusco | never had a separate /boot before |
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| 18:51.14 | Iridos | cusco, small... 200MB is plenty |
| 18:51.15 | jelly-home | cusco: 200MB ? |
| 18:51.17 | daemonkeeper | 256M should be fine. |
| 18:51.21 | Iridos | jelly-home, haha |
| 18:51.26 | jelly-home | highfives Iridos |
| 18:51.28 | cusco | ok Ill give it a Gig at least |
| 18:51.33 | jelly-home | cusco: don't |
| 18:51.34 | daemonkeeper | Why? |
| 18:51.38 | cusco | why not? |
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| 18:51.58 | daemonkeeper | You need to put there a kernel and a initrd. Makes 3M or so per kernel. |
| 18:52.02 | jelly-home | cusco: because you're NEVER going to have a gig worth of kernels and initrds |
| 18:52.03 | Iridos | cusco, yeah, do not... there's limits to how far from the start the bootloader can find stuff (1GB is no problem, though) |
| 18:52.20 | Iridos | and right... one kernel+initrd is perhaps 5MB or so |
| 18:52.23 | daemonkeeper | Iridos: We're not in 1995 anymore |
| 18:52.42 | daemonkeeper | These days no 1024 sector limits exist anymore. |
| 18:52.51 | Iridos | daemonkeeper, there's still limits... I wondered why the installer by default creates such a small system disk - then I found out |
| 18:52.53 | cusco | yes I believe you... |
| 18:53.03 | cusco | ok |
| 18:53.10 | jelly-home | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10941526 2011-02-20 00:54 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-686 |
| 18:53.10 | jelly-home | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2297216 2011-01-12 08:59 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686 |
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| 18:53.27 | MrFrood | daemonkeeper: I still use a pc that dates from 1988 |
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| 18:55.41 | Iridos | daemonkeeper, sorry, I don't remember details... it's about a year, I think now... I researched a bit back then, shook my head and got over it |
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| 18:56.33 | daemonkeeper | Iridos: Unless you run an ancient lilo or a (not so) recent grub on 2T+ disks there should not be a problem. |
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| 18:57.52 | Iridos | hm, I dunno exactly... perhaps I misremember... too long ago |
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| 19:03.36 | glick | hey has anyone run debian in a virtualbox machine? |
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| 19:04.19 | jelly-home | no, never |
| 19:04.31 | jelly-home | glick: ask your real question |
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| 19:04.34 | RichiH | !ask |
| 19:04.35 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 19:04.47 | jelly-home | !anyone |
| 19:04.47 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 19:04.47 | jhutchins | Lilo's problems with large disk were gone twenty ago, but it was still badmouthed back ten years ago. |
| 19:05.10 | cusco | eek |
| 19:05.16 | glick | well im trying to boot a 64 bit debian in a virtualbox machine but its not booting, the machine just stays black and the accessing dvd/cd icon is blinking but the screen remains black |
| 19:05.19 | jelly-home | jhutchins: it still has problems with new md, lvm, huge devices and other newfangled stuff |
| 19:05.22 | Iridos | hmm, should I join in to the merry factoid-calling? |
| 19:05.35 | jelly-home | jhutchins: there are large disks and LARGE DISKS |
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| 19:06.12 | jelly-home | glick: hm, what's the host OS? Does a 32bit image work instead? |
| 19:06.17 | jhutchins | jelly-home: Last I heard it could handle raid better than legacy grub. |
| 19:06.30 | glick | jelly-home, host OS is win7 |
| 19:06.36 | jelly-home | jhutchins: if it's md raid 0.9 |
| 19:06.39 | glick | 64 bit |
| 19:07.49 | jhutchins | lilo always worked great for me, I just finally gave in to all the distros defaulting to grub. Plus I had to learn grub for work, so... |
| 19:07.53 | jelly-home | glick: eh. Try #vbox channel, but don't expect much help on a Sunday evening (vbox people are in Germany) |
| 19:08.21 | jelly-home | jhutchins: I'm mourning grub-legacy |
| 19:08.47 | glick | ia64 is the correct version for 64-bit intel right? |
| 19:08.55 | jhutchins | I have a feeling someone might clean up grub 2 and offer a PC-only edition that doesn't have fourty-leven config files. |
| 19:09.14 | jhutchins | Then again, that's not the way they went with apache. The more config files the merrier! |
| 19:09.16 | das_nichts | glick, only for Itanium |
| 19:09.30 | glick | hmm that could be the reason! |
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| 19:09.54 | glick | i want amd64? |
| 19:10.02 | das_nichts | yes |
| 19:10.08 | glick | aiy! |
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| 19:11.08 | Iridos | there you go |
| 19:11.12 | jelly-home | it's a common error for people that don't read release notes |
| 19:11.50 | jelly-home | or don't download the combo 32/64 bit image right from the www.debian.org main page |
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| 19:12.40 | pLk | some postfix experts here? my parameter relay_recipients_maps is ignored if i also use the parameter virtual_mailbox_maps |
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| 19:12.55 | slidesinger | just learned that there is a 32/64 bit image, which is one of the reasons I hang out here. |
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| 19:13.35 | pLk | that suxx because i need two different lists :( |
| 19:14.11 | superlinux | hi. on xfce, how can I switch between two key maps? |
| 19:14.16 | glick | i almost never read release notes |
| 19:14.53 | pipeline | superlinux: add the "keyboard layout" applet to your panel |
| 19:15.54 | jelly-home | superlinux: and add a second layout in Xfce4 Settings -> keyboard -> layout -> Add |
| 19:16.33 | superlinux | ok |
| 19:16.54 | magyar | hi,is there a way to get sound working with icewaesel flash? |
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| 19:17.46 | superlinux | pipeline, is't the gnome's you're talking about? |
| 19:17.53 | MrFrood | magyar: it should work automagicaly, have you sound with other applications? |
| 19:18.35 | jelly-home | superlinux: xfce should have its own "Keyboard Layouts" panel applet |
| 19:18.56 | superlinux | ok.. is there a package name? |
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| 19:19.49 | superlinux | ok.. is there a package name? jelly-home ? |
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| 19:20.15 | jelly-home | wait |
| 19:20.19 | MrFrood | superlinux: aptitude search |
| 19:21.05 | magyar | superlinux: yes i do, i have squeeze amd64 with kde |
| 19:21.30 | magyar | superlinux: sry |
| 19:21.40 | magyar | MrFrood: : yes i do, i have squeeze amd64 with kde |
| 19:21.49 | superlinux | magnet_, i have the same but gnome and xfce4 only |
| 19:22.29 | jelly-home | ,versions xfce4-xkb-plugin |
| 19:22.30 | judd | Package xfce4-xkb-plugin on i386 -- lenny: 0.4.3-1; sid: 0.5.3.3-3+b1; squeeze: 0.5.3.3-3+b1; wheezy: 0.5.3.3-3+b1 |
| 19:22.34 | jelly-home | superlinux: that one |
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| 19:22.44 | superlinux | ok |
| 19:22.48 | xand | on both lenny and squeeze, I often have to do /etc/init.d/networking restart a few times after booting to get my ipv6 to work on eth0, any ideas? this is my interfaces file: http://paste.debian.net/110579/ - when I say it doesn't work, eth0 doesn't have an ipv6 address... |
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| 19:23.09 | MrFrood | magyar: Sorry I'm only familiar with 32bit Debian |
| 19:23.39 | superlinux | jelly-home, , done! |
| 19:23.45 | superlinux | thanks. |
| 19:23.57 | MrFrood | magyar: I think there is a bit more messing around with install 64 bit flash |
| 19:24.18 | superlinux | I was searching using "keyboard layout". but did not find it |
| 19:24.29 | jelly-home | superlinux: I prefer using KDE4's kxkb systray thingie instead (even under xfce) |
| 19:24.48 | hanshans | hi all! i'm having a problem mounting an sd-card... after plugging in in, dmesg says "MMC/SD card detected in socket 0:3", but nothing further. how can i find it in /dev? |
| 19:25.27 | superlinux | ok. |
| 19:25.36 | superlinux | I understand |
| 19:26.14 | engla | My apt-get update cannot download the package lists at all since yesterday, due to "hash mismatch" anyone else have this problem? How can I fix it? (I use testing wheezy) |
| 19:26.20 | superlinux | ok.. it works now! |
| 19:26.24 | superlinux | thanks |
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| 19:27.49 | MrFrood | engla: try a another repro or just wait a while for it to be fixed |
| 19:28.01 | engla | MrFrood: another mirror? |
| 19:28.08 | MrFrood | engla: yea |
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| 19:29.10 | MrFrood | must learn to type |
| 19:29.47 | jelly-home | superlinux: you might want to install xfce4-goodies, which pulls in a shitload of applets and utilities |
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| 19:38.20 | superlinux | ah ok |
| 19:38.23 | superlinux | thanks |
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| 19:41.55 | g00se | Is there some utility that can turn 'use foo' Perl imports into debian library names? |
| 19:42.31 | jelly-home | g00se: not all Perl modules are compiled native ones. |
| 19:42.46 | jelly-home | g00se: what's your real issue? |
| 19:43.16 | jelly-home | "i need to make this perl script work" is reasonably real |
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| 19:44.06 | Sauvin | I don't think I understood g00se's question properly. |
| 19:44.13 | joeb_ | how to remove rpcbind .. i see it as a open port |
| 19:45.04 | jelly-home | joeb_: portmap is the service you're looking for. |
| 19:45.08 | joeb_ | aw |
| 19:45.33 | g00se | i need to make this perl script work ;) |
| 19:45.37 | joeb_ | jelly-home- how would i have known that .. should i have done apt-file or auto-apt ? |
| 19:45.42 | jelly-home | joeb_: NFS or some parts of your desktop interface (if you're using Gnome) may depend on it |
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| 19:46.11 | jelly-home | joeb_: netstat -tupan (as root) would have shown it |
| 19:46.23 | jelly-home | esp. the -p option |
| 19:46.46 | joeb_ | jelly-home- i did a nmap |
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| 19:46.54 | joeb_ | its closed finally |
| 19:46.59 | chakal | ana |
| 19:47.00 | joeb_ | i only have port 5900 witch i want open |
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| 19:47.31 | g00se | Sauvin: i'm missing library dependencies and don't know which debs to install |
| 19:47.48 | Sauvin | Where did you get this script? |
| 19:47.54 | jelly-home | g00se: pastebin the output of "perl -c yourscript" |
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| 19:48.30 | joeb_ | jelly-home- i don't understand this eaither .. my ip is 192.168.1.6 right .. i nmaped it and i only have 5900 open right .. i did a nmap 127.0.0.1 i have port 25 631 5901 and 6969 |
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| 19:48.40 | jelly-home | g00se: unless it says syntax ok. If that's the case, run it so we can see which modules are missing |
| 19:48.52 | joeb_ | im running tasktel |
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| 19:49.01 | jelly-home | joeb_: that's completely normal. |
| 19:49.08 | g00se | jelly-home: Can't locate HTML/Entities.pm is about the size of it |
| 19:49.33 | jelly-home | joeb_: 127.0.0.1 IP is bound to a different interface, a virtual one called "lo". |
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| 19:49.58 | jelly-home | g00se: /msg judd file HTML/Entities.pm |
| 19:50.29 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell g00se about apt-file |
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| 19:51.16 | g00se | jelly-home: Didn't think of apt-file thanks ;) |
| 19:51.39 | jelly-home | g00se: more like s/ of.*// ! |
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| 19:56.59 | durando | is anyone using a jetway ADPE4S i'm having a heck of a time getting it to work with any distro right now i'm testing debian 6 |
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| 20:07.07 | latsami | hi, I'm having troubles with aptitude/apt-get: Running `sudo apt-get source libjpeg` raises an error: "E: Impossible to open file /var/lib/apt/lists/volatile.debian.org_debian-volatile_dists_squeeze_volatile_main_source_Sources - open (2: No file or directory of this kind" |
| 20:07.07 | jhutchins_lt | durando: Never heard of it. pci id? |
| 20:07.35 | latsami | I'm running squeeze but didn't do the dist-upgrade yet |
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| 20:07.41 | jhutchins_lt | latsami: sudo is for ubuntu. |
| 20:07.41 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: how do you even know it's hardware |
| 20:07.45 | latsami | (I have installed lenny initially) |
| 20:07.47 | jhutchins_lt | latsami: use su- |
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| 20:07.58 | durando | jhutchins this page talks about the challenges with this card http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-kernel/219001-bug-509923-linux-2-6-hds-no-longer-found-marvell-88se6145-sata-controller.html |
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| 20:08.07 | latsami | jhutchins_lt, well I have installed sudo so why no using it? |
| 20:08.08 | joeb_ | jhutchins_lt- whats wrong with sudo ? |
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| 20:08.44 | jelly-home | latsami: does it happen if you redo an "aptitude update"? |
| 20:08.56 | latsami | jhutchins_lt, anyway it doesn't change the problem... |
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| 20:09.00 | latsami | jelly-home, yes |
| 20:09.18 | jelly-home | latsami: also, you don't need to apt-get source (or build) as root, but that's besides the current point |
| 20:09.22 | latsami | oh and I'm running a ppc G4 here |
| 20:09.31 | jhutchins_lt | latsami: volatile doesn't exist in squeeze. |
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| 20:09.44 | jhutchins_lt | latsami: Perhaps you should read the release notes first? |
| 20:09.53 | jhutchins_lt | !tell latsami about release notes |
| 20:10.03 | jelly-home | latsami: remove deb and deb-src lines for volatile, redo the update |
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| 20:10.18 | MrFrood | sudo should be used to give a specific user permanent access to a restricted command not for everythinh (IMHO) |
| 20:10.32 | jhutchins_lt | durando: That page appears to talk about a differnt card. Is it the same chipset? |
| 20:10.45 | MrFrood | *everything |
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| 20:11.12 | jhutchins_lt | !tell latsami about lenny->squeeze |
| 20:11.24 | durando | yeah jhutchins |
| 20:11.48 | durando | in a sec i'm going to try these steps http://wiki.debian.org/pata_marvell |
| 20:12.07 | latsami | jhutchins_lt, thanks |
| 20:12.19 | Fire-_-Fly | I just got my debian distro installe on my HP 4520s probook, but can't seem to find proper drivers for the touchpad and wlan (wifi) |
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| 20:13.50 | Bushmills | Fire-_-Fly: what drivers were you looking for? |
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| 20:17.51 | scoobertron | is there a way to specify that hencforth all terminal commands should be run on a particular display? |
| 20:18.10 | pipeline | scoobertron: set the DISPLAY environment variable |
| 20:18.15 | Fire-_-Fly | someone must have died |
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| 20:18.50 | scoobertron | that will set it for the shell I am in (I am typing it before every command now) |
| 20:19.07 | engla | MrFrood: a different mirror did work, thanks. |
| 20:19.24 | pipeline | scoobertron: "export DISPLAY=blah" for sh/bash |
| 20:19.32 | pipeline | scoobertron: "setenv DISPLAY blah" for csh/tcsh |
| 20:19.43 | pipeline | scoobertron: the point is, DISPLAY is just an environment variable. You can set it and hav edone |
| 20:19.59 | scoobertron | pipeline: awesome, thanks |
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| 20:20.14 | glick | how can i setup apt so it doesnt look for the cd i instralled from when i do an update or what not |
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| 20:20.20 | fragz | why is mysql-server on debian6 still version 5.1 and not 5.5? |
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| 20:20.33 | MrFrood | engla: it's a semi-regular occurance, last happened to me a year or so ago |
| 20:20.40 | scoobertron | glick: remove the lines referring to the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 20:20.54 | glick | thanks scoobertron |
| 20:21.05 | engla | MrFrood: I see, I haven't seen it much. This was the .se mirror. |
| 20:21.46 | fragz | why is mysql-server on debian6 still version 5.1 and not 5.5? |
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| 20:22.21 | jelly-home | fragz: why would it be 5.5? |
| 20:22.23 | MrFrood | engla: you will probaly find it working in a few days |
| 20:22.37 | fragz | because 5.5 has been the stable mysql version since long before squeeze was released? |
| 20:23.07 | jelly-home | fragz: versions of software are chosen and frozen long before the release. |
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| 20:23.23 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell fragz about freeze |
| 20:23.26 | themill | fragz: does every package in debian that uses mysql also work fine with mysql 5.5 as a drop-in replacement? (hint: no) |
| 20:23.28 | engla | MrFrood: is it because of unsynced mirrors, or random bit flips? or something much more trivial..? |
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| 20:25.25 | MrFrood | engla: I think it is simply a package got corupted when coppying from the master-site so the hash sums do not match |
| 20:27.34 | glick | sweeet vbox rules! |
| 20:27.54 | joeb_ | glick- what did you install in vobx ? |
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| 20:27.57 | glick | although, my system might be more stable if i ran windows inside of debian |
| 20:28.04 | glick | instead of visa versa as i am |
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| 20:28.45 | latsami | jhutchins_lt, thanks it solved my problem |
| 20:29.06 | jhutchins_lt | latsami: Great! |
| 20:29.18 | jhutchins_lt | !congratulate latsami |
| 20:29.18 | dpkg | Nice one latsami, you did it! |
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| 20:30.21 | glick | im surprised, its running at almost native speed |
| 20:30.28 | [cenobyte] | anybody know a way of getting GeForce FX5200 running with debian - on a powerpc? |
| 20:30.55 | jhutchins_lt | glick: The host system probably isn't very busy. |
| 20:31.22 | glick | yeah its not really jhutchins |
| 20:31.36 | jhutchins_lt | !geforce |
| 20:31.36 | dpkg | Install either <nouveau> (no 3D support) or the appropriate proprietary driver package for your card. For GeForce 6xxx through to some GeForce 400 series, ask me about <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>; for older series, ask about <nvidia dkms-173xx> <nvidia dkms-96xx>. For oldstable, see <nvidia lenny>. nvidia.com packages are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 20:33.17 | joeb_ | hmm |
| 20:33.20 | joeb_ | this java is killing me |
| 20:33.23 | joeb_ | !java |
| 20:33.23 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged for Debian, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:33.39 | simonrvn | [cenobyte]: use nouveau, the nvidia binary drivers don't support ppc |
| 20:34.01 | [cenobyte] | thanks |
| 20:34.52 | joeb_ | is there a diff from sun-java60-jdk and sun-java6-jre ? |
| 20:35.09 | joeb_ | i just did sun-java6-jre and flash sucked on att website |
| 20:35.50 | simonrvn | uh. java has nothing to do with flash. |
| 20:36.28 | glick | is there anyway i can change a users username |
| 20:36.30 | glick | ? |
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| 20:38.19 | pipeline | glick: vipw |
| 20:38.37 | pipeline | glick: what's important is the uid, and that's hard to change... to change the username, just edit the passwd/shadow files with vipw |
| 20:39.01 | glick | hmm i cant log into gnome as root |
| 20:39.05 | glick | is that by design? |
| 20:39.24 | engla | glick: don't do that anyway |
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| 20:39.51 | pipeline | glick: it's probably accidental, but no one would test that, because you should never consider doing something like that. Bad Idea. |
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| 20:40.03 | glick | engla, its cause im trying to change the username and when i tried to do it from admin->users and grops it said i couldnt do it while the user was logged in |
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| 20:41.36 | jhutchins_lt | glick: You can log in to one of the consoles on Ctrl-Alt-F1 through -F6 |
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| 20:44.09 | alnuvola | buonasera |
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| 20:44.51 | Fire-_-Fly | hello, everybody! |
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| 20:46.02 | joeb_ | my flash websites are flickering |
| 20:46.13 | joeb_ | i just installed sun-java6-jre |
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| 20:47.02 | joeb_ | is it my browser that is going this ? |
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| 20:48.38 | LV-426 | glick, if you need a one-time root gui session you can login as a regular user & enable root gui sessions explicitly : system->login window settings, will ask your root password, but remember to change it back when done |
| 20:49.00 | glick | cool, thanks LV-426 |
| 20:49.05 | joeb_ | wow .. iceweasel plays flash fine |
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| 20:49.12 | dclarke | does anyone know how to set a preferred route on a machine with dual network ports ? I have to take one network port down ( ifconfig eth1 down ) to connect to anything on the internet and thats .. wrong |
| 20:49.22 | joeb_ | err .. let me retrack that statement |
| 20:49.28 | craigevil | joeb_: what version of flash or gnash, and what browser isnt working right? |
| 20:49.39 | LV-426 | joeb_, just in time for html5 ;] |
| 20:49.58 | jelly-home | dclarke: have only one default gateway, the correct one |
| 20:50.21 | joeb_ | craigevil- LV-426 i just installed sun-java-jre6 something ... my screen is flashing at me |
| 20:50.25 | dclarke | jelly-home: well .. how then does one allow for traffic on both nets at the same time .. oh .. duh .. never mind .. sorry |
| 20:50.27 | Fire-_-Fly | can anyone help me with what wifi driver I need to install? |
| 20:50.32 | dclarke | finds wall .. smacks head to wall |
| 20:50.36 | jelly-home | dclarke: this translates to exactly one "gateway" line on /e/n/interfaces |
| 20:50.43 | jelly-home | on? in |
| 20:50.44 | dclarke | netstat -rn |
| 20:50.51 | dclarke | gotcha ! |
| 20:51.02 | Fire-_-Fly | it's a broadcom wlan, but cant seem to find any suitable driver yet |
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| 20:53.18 | joeb_ | craigevil- LV-426 http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2w3oln6&s=7 |
| 20:53.40 | joeb_ | meaning flash isn't working |
| 20:53.49 | jelly-home | Fire-_-Fly: pci(express) or usb? |
| 20:53.53 | craigevil | joeb_: java shouldnt have any effect on flash , which browsers, and what debian release/ |
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| 20:54.23 | joeb_ | craigevil- sun-java6-jre debian squeeze |
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| 20:54.42 | Fire-_-Fly | jelly-home: pci |
| 20:54.59 | jelly-home | Fire-_-Fly: paste its lspci -nn line in full |
| 20:55.10 | craigevil | joeb, no issues here but I run sid, flash works as well as it usually does in Chrome, Iceweasel/Firefox, Opera, Midori |
| 20:55.13 | Fire-_-Fly | 43:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4727] (rev 01) |
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| 20:55.18 | joeb_ | craigevil- let me reinstall it .. i installed it |
| 20:55.19 | jelly-home | ,pciid 14e4:4727 |
| 20:55.20 | judd | [14e4:4727] is 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'brcm80211' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4727 http://wiki.debian.org/wl http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 and the out-of-tree 'wl' module. |
| 20:55.34 | jelly-home | Fire-_-Fly: that one! |
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| 20:56.18 | jelly-home | Fire-_-Fly: the wiki pages are probably going to point at the ways of obtaining firmware files, if they are needed |
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| 21:03.58 | cmyers | omg - I think I have a reproducible (ish) userland hard-crash on debian unstable (2.6.32-3-amd64 kernel) |
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| 21:06.42 | cmyers | I build my project (C++, make, autconf, etc) in a debian squeeze chroot on my debian unstable box and during the build it hard locks. nothing in syslog/dmesg. no choice but to flip the physical power switch |
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| 21:06.55 | eigenman | quick question: is there a good webpage for troubleshooting suspend on Squeeze? I found wiki.debian.org/suspend, but that doesn't seem to talk about troubleshooting (and I think it is a bit out of date) |
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| 21:20.20 | joeb_ | craigevil- should i reinstall java .. its not working still |
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| 21:21.07 | craigevil | did you install sun-java6-plugin and restart your browser |
| 21:21.15 | joeb_ | craigevil- im removing sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin |
| 21:21.20 | joeb_ | then reinstalling |
| 21:23.09 | joeb_ | youtube works |
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| 21:24.59 | Fire-_-Fly | jelly-home: thanks, connected from WIFI now :) |
| 21:25.13 | joeb_ | craigevil- see if this link plays www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2011/03/13/aqui.japan.google.tool.missing.cnn |
| 21:26.23 | craigevil | plays just fine |
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| 21:30.26 | Iridos | eigenman, what we have in the factoid is also outdated, afaik... check with /msg dpkg suspend troubleshooting |
| 21:30.51 | Iridos | (well, the suse stuff seemed pretty old, the link from kernel.org seems new) |
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| 21:31.58 | Iridos | joeb_, youtube uses flash |
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| 21:32.06 | eigenman | Thanks Iridois. |
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| 21:33.28 | eigenman | as a sidenote, am I right in thinking that uswsusp is not available in default debian anymore? |
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| 21:35.11 | Iridos | joeb_, you should check by going to about:plugins and perhaps strace or somesuch, what is actually loadedfor plugins - could be it's really something in your home directory |
| 21:35.51 | Iridos | eigenman, yes, it was removed because s2disk could lead to data loss |
| 21:35.54 | Iridos | dpkg, uswsusp |
| 21:35.54 | dpkg | Squeeze users: remove the uswsusp package and use pm-hibernate/pm-suspend from the pm-utils package instead. In lenny, uswsusp was a package for userspace software <suspend>, including the s2ram and s2disk programs. Use of <initramfs> is required. Not available for Squeeze due to Debian bugs #498917, #503337, #521147, #528483. http://suspend.sf.net/ |
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| 21:40.55 | Iridos | tsk, none of those bugs mention data loss, though... dunno... think someone told me this |
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| 21:42.37 | Iridos | !tell cmyers -about netconsole |
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| 22:00.57 | bonny | BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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| 22:02.21 | wolter | why do flags don't work on desktop launchers? |
| 22:02.35 | homie | bonny: just that you know, i was already at 180 a minute ago! |
| 22:03.02 | bonny | 180 on wat |
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| 22:04.36 | ymas | Hello everyone! Got squeeze 64-bit installed on my workstation no problems!! Excellent release. For some reason, there are some sites that affecting iceweasel's performance, the window becomes unresponsive and the javascript runs very slowly. |
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| 22:05.11 | ymas | The same site works perfectly in Epiphany |
| 22:05.27 | ikonia | wolter: are you using debian or ubuntu ? |
| 22:06.03 | ikonia | busted |
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| 22:06.56 | bonny | he didnt even answer how can u say busted |
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| 22:08.20 | ymas | does anyone know where I can report this "issue"? Some sites are mainstream, like barclays.co.uk |
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| 22:12.59 | cmyers | ugh, I think I need help. I am 95% certain I discovered a kernel bug in 2.6.32-3-amd64 (debian unstable) |
| 22:13.22 | cmyers | during a large make process of an open-source project, the kernel goes apeshit and the machine hard-locks |
| 22:13.39 | cmyers | only alt+sysreq+b could restart it (or hard power switch) |
| 22:13.53 | cmyers | I've seen this happen on two different pieces of hardware now so I am thinking it is not a hardware problem |
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| 22:14.14 | cmyers | I want to help create a small repro case, but it seems to happen on different files each time |
| 22:14.18 | cmyers | so I am super confused |
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| 22:18.14 | joeb_ | guys my touchpad stops working ever hour |
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| 22:18.18 | joeb_ | i can't click anything |
| 22:18.21 | joeb_ | anyway to fix ? |
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| 22:18.38 | un214 | !dicom |
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| 22:20.47 | joeb_ | noobs |
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| 22:21.37 | joeb_ | anyone ? |
| 22:21.45 | joeb_ | touchpad just randomly stopped working |
| 22:21.59 | Gryllida | What do I need to have a project added to Debian repos? |
| 22:22.22 | Ratty | Can anyone tell me how to ignore a dependency for a specific package globally? |
| 22:22.32 | homie | my screen always goes black, even when i turn off every energy saving setting, and do DPMS off in my xorg.conf |
| 22:22.34 | un214 | dcmj2pnm |
| 22:22.51 | homie | pretty annoying |
| 22:23.02 | cmyers | ugh, I can't seem to repro the problem by invoking g++ directly =( |
| 22:23.08 | Gryllida | sees a queue of random questions to which he doesn't know an answer |
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| 22:24.16 | homie | do the settings get on effect at the next kde session or do they take effect immediately ? |
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| 22:31.57 | cmyers | stracing the shit out of make now hoping to discover the cause =| |
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| 22:34.31 | manitou | how i set "one click" to open files ? |
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| 22:35.22 | homie | manitou: on what ? gnome ? kde ? |
| 22:35.34 | manitou | homie, gnome |
| 22:35.44 | homie | manitou: settings for dolphin ? or nautilus ? |
| 22:36.06 | manitou | nautilus |
| 22:36.44 | Iridos | cmyers, did you see what dpkg told you above? What you said sounded like kernel panic |
| 22:36.51 | manitou | on all system i will one click |
| 22:36.56 | homie | manitou: i think there was a setting for nautilus actually, but there's one in gnome-config editor for sure |
| 22:37.15 | Iridos | cmyers, also... if you only get it with the high load of a longer compile... did you watch CPU temperature while compiling? |
| 22:37.30 | homie | manitou: on kde, i have the system-settings pane, it's somewhere there |
| 22:37.56 | manitou | ok checking homie , im new to gnome and Debian ! from openSuse world ! :) |
| 22:38.06 | homie | manitou: yw, np |
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| 22:39.29 | Iridos | cmyers, and actually... if you bought those two machines at the same time, it still might well be a hardware problem... as a student at university, I worked in a computer pool ... and they had gotten new NT machines at some point - half of them should blue screens a lot - after many software and bios updates etc. it finally turned out to be a bad CPU batch... |
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| 22:40.27 | manitou | its in nautilus edit/preferences/behaviour homie ! :) |
| 22:40.38 | manitou | thx anyway |
| 22:41.06 | manitou | and sensors didnt find any sensors ? strange |
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| 22:42.41 | homie | manitou: which sensors ? |
| 22:43.03 | manitou | homie, no sensors atall :( |
| 22:43.31 | Ratty | Can anyone tell me how to ignore a dependency for a specific package globally? |
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| 22:43.41 | homie | manitou: oh oh, i have to buy a smoke sensors here! |
| 22:43.45 | homie | lol |
| 22:43.47 | manitou | i did sensors-detect homie |
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| 22:43.48 | cmyers | Iridos: I didn't see dpkg's message, lots of noise, looking |
| 22:43.58 | cmyers | Iridos: the logs don't actually say kernel panic |
| 22:44.19 | cmyers | and it didn't look like what I typically call a kernel panic - it was spewing kernel msgs to the console for sure though, at least once |
| 22:44.23 | Iridos | cmyers, they usually don't as the kernel can't write to the usual logs anymore... |
| 22:44.26 | cmyers | other times it hard locked the machine |
| 22:44.31 | cmyers | Iridos: that makes sense. |
| 22:44.35 | homie | manitou: hmm, i don't know anything about sensors actually |
| 22:44.41 | cmyers | also, the tow machines are very different and purchased far apart |
| 22:44.44 | daemonkeeper | Ratty: You're aware a dependency isn't there just for fun? |
| 22:44.51 | cmyers | so I don't think it is temperature or hardware |
| 22:44.54 | cmyers | but good suggestions |
| 22:44.58 | Iridos | cmyers, that's why I gave you that factoid... to see it again: /msg dpkg netconsole |
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| 22:45.39 | cmyers | Iridos: I will try that, thanks |
| 22:45.40 | Ratty | daemonkeeper, Yeah I know... I am installing roundcube webmail and everytime I want to update something it complains about a dependency I dont have |
| 22:45.52 | Iridos | cmyers, there are different ways of logging kernel panics, but if the machine you crash has a wire-ethernet, this seems one of the more convenient ones |
| 22:45.59 | Ratty | I use the dotdeb repo and it doesn't have php5-intl |
| 22:46.03 | cmyers | right now, I tried running `strace -ff -o strace.out make` and the problem STOPPED HAPPENING =( =( =( |
| 22:46.14 | cmyers | might be a hidenbug or might be more intermittent than I thought |
| 22:46.16 | Ratty | which is needed to run the roundcube-core 0.5.1 |
| 22:46.35 | Ratty | Correction! Not needed |
| 22:46.46 | daemonkeeper | Well, dotdeb is not supported in #debian anyway ... |
| 22:47.00 | Bushmills | Ratty, any of those: http://scarydevilmonastery.net/dep.cgi?roundcube ? |
| 22:47.20 | Iridos | scarydevilmonastery? |
| 22:48.07 | Ratty | Bushmills, Holy smokes |
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| 22:48.57 | Iridos | judd, versions roundcube |
| 22:48.58 | judd | Package roundcube on i386 -- lenny-backports: 0.3.1-6~bpo50+1; squeeze: 0.3.1-6; wheezy: 0.5.1+dfsg-3; sid: 0.5.1+dfsg-7 |
| 22:49.05 | Iridos | what's wrong with that one anyway |
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| 22:51.02 | Ratty | Yeah I have 0.5.1+dfsg-7 with 5.3.5.0 |
| 22:51.19 | Ratty | No real need for the php5-intl |
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| 22:51.54 | Iridos | I mean 0.3.1-6 from squeeze... there is apparently no backport of 0.5.1 for squeeze yet |
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| 22:52.10 | Iridos | (not so surprising such a short time after the release) |
| 22:52.19 | Ratty | Oh |
| 22:52.21 | Ratty | I see |
| 22:53.04 | LinuxGuy2009 | When installing squeeze with a software raid0 configuration, it installs grub 1.98 which I think is grub2, right? The same grub that is installed on a normal partitioning setup without raid? But it has no background image, whats up with that? Is it a bug or normal behavior? |
| 22:53.46 | Iridos | you mean a splashscreen? |
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| 22:54.56 | LinuxGuy2009 | Iridos: Whatever you want to call it, the image that shows up behind the kernel selections. |
| 22:55.07 | acidchild | hey, i started doing an upgrade by ran out of space on my harddrive. Can i set a directory to download the packages to |
| 22:55.39 | Iridos | I've never seen one... and wouldn't want one so.. yes, default is without |
| 22:56.02 | Iridos | and it's grub2 if the package is called grub-pc in squeeze |
| 22:56.11 | Iridos | and yes, version is grub-pc 1.98+20100804 |
| 22:56.30 | LinuxGuy2009 | Iridos: Well its default with a normal partition install to have one, but raid0 software partitioning is missing it. |
| 22:56.59 | Iridos | acidchild, they go to /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 22:57.07 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is it normal? |
| 22:57.16 | acidchild | yes how do i change htat? |
| 22:57.21 | acidchild | i could symlink maybe |
| 22:57.23 | Iridos | I don't have a raid setup and don't have any |
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| 22:57.34 | Iridos | acidchild, yes, or bindmount |
| 22:57.47 | LinuxGuy2009 | Iridos: Did you do a clean install or dist-upgrade? |
| 22:57.58 | Iridos | I did an install |
| 22:58.25 | Iridos | of lenny, though and upgraded to squeeze |
| 22:58.30 | Iridos | that was before squeeze was stable |
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| 22:58.55 | LinuxGuy2009 | Iridos: Thats why you dont have one then. |
| 22:58.58 | Mikaze | Squeeze is stable now? |
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| 23:00.18 | rudi_s | Mikaze: Yes. |
| 23:00.22 | LinuxGuy2009 | Mikaze: Lenny is now old-stable. Squeeze is the new stable. |
| 23:00.26 | Mikaze | Wish they'd picked a better toy for it. |
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| 23:03.32 | Mikaze | So, what comes after Squeeze? |
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| 23:03.54 | Iridos | wheezes |
| 23:04.09 | babilen | !tell Mikaze about wheezy |
| 23:04.16 | Mikaze | Ewww. That's even worse. |
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| 23:04.30 | Iridos | babilen, I think he didn't really wanted to know... considering what he already thought about squeeze... |
| 23:04.51 | KasHKoW | hi |
| 23:04.53 | babilen | Iridos: I just joined and take questions seriously |
| 23:05.05 | Iridos | eye sea |
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| 23:05.45 | Mikaze | It was an honest question. Nobody liked the response was all. |
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| 23:07.31 | Iridos | babilen, so as you're so much for taking questions seriously... any good substitute for swscanner? I want to try to optimize directeion of my wireless antenna... and wifi-radar just shows "100%", while the gnome wifi thing shows "two bars" |
| 23:07.34 | Iridos | all not so useful |
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| 23:08.00 | zen_monkey | how can i tell if my installed kernel suports ext4? |
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| 23:08.10 | babilen | Iridos: No, sorry. |
| 23:08.19 | Iridos | I fear there is none :( |
| 23:08.30 | Iridos | maemo has wifieye, which is FOSS |
| 23:08.51 | Iridos | but trying to port that wasn't too successful yet |
| 23:08.54 | babilen | zen_monkey: grep EXT4 /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 23:08.58 | Mikaze | Squeeze supports ext4. |
| 23:09.24 | nutron | when using preseeding, I'm looking at the docs, what's the option to use the largest available partition? The default shows biggest_free, but the machines all have freedos installed already (from the manufacturer), so I just want to pick the whole drive, anyone know what the magic code is? |
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| 23:11.51 | nutron | or do I have to select the drive specifically? |
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| 23:12.51 | JeremyS | Is the git format for debian source packages accepted at all for official debian package repositories? |
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| 23:14.32 | daemonkeeper | JeremyS: You can use pretty much what you want as SCM for a Debian package. A lot of projects do already use git. |
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| 23:15.03 | daemonkeeper | By the way: git-buildpackage might ease efforts a lot. |
| 23:15.20 | Mikaze | wonders why Debian even bothers to upgrade Orca when what it's being upgraded to works worse than the previous version, if at all. |
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| 23:20.07 | Odaym | how do i locate a file? |
| 23:20.12 | Odaym | locate doesn't seem to respond here |
| 23:20.17 | Ri_usw | with find |
| 23:20.31 | Ri_usw | Odaym: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind |
| 23:20.33 | daemonkeeper | What's wrong with locale? |
| 23:20.39 | daemonkeeper | *locate |
| 23:20.45 | dvs | dea |
| 23:20.45 | Odaym | locate: command not found |
| 23:20.48 | babilen | Odaym: ... or update the locate db -- (updatedb*) |
| 23:20.54 | Odaym | oh right |
| 23:20.55 | daemonkeeper | apt-get install locate; updatedb |
| 23:20.55 | SerajewelKS | Mikaze: ditto CUPS |
| 23:21.06 | Odaym | one of the first things i read about linux is updatedeb |
| 23:21.10 | Mikaze | Try the whereis command? |
| 23:21.32 | daemonkeeper | whereis only locates executables in $PATH |
| 23:21.39 | nkuttler | meh, does somebody which permissions to fix for a "Error occurred during pci scan: Operation not permitted" with mplayer? i remember fixing this a few weeks ago.. but yet another upgrade.. |
| 23:21.39 | babilen | Mikaze: If it would be on the PATH Odaym would have been able to run it. |
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| 23:22.07 | Odaym | is there such a file as "named.conf"? |
| 23:22.11 | Odaym | is it common to exist? |
| 23:22.13 | Odaym | i mean.. |
| 23:22.16 | Odaym | you know what i mean |
| 23:22.23 | Odaym | is it like /etc/hosts? |
| 23:22.40 | themill | daemonkeeper, Odaym: btw you'd want the "mlocate" package not the "locate" package. |
| 23:22.45 | Odaym | fucking zimbra!! |
| 23:22.48 | Odaym | i hate it already |
| 23:22.54 | Mikaze | named.conf? Part of the named daemon package? |
| 23:22.55 | babilen | Odaym: named.conf is typically the/a configuration file of a DNS server such as bind9 |
| 23:23.06 | daemonkeeper | themill: Do I? |
| 23:23.18 | themill | JeremyS: no |
| 23:23.25 | babilen | Odaym: Don't use Zimbra if you hate it. |
| 23:23.26 | Bushmills | Odaym: it is common to exist on machines with bind installed |
| 23:23.28 | themill | daemonkeeper: mlocate is vastly superiod to locate, yes. |
| 23:23.36 | Odaym | i have to make a split DNS because the VM that i want to run Zimbra on, has a private IP |
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| 23:25.44 | daemonkeeper | "results of a search will only include files that the user running locate has access to." What happened to slocate? |
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| 23:26.23 | daemonkeeper | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=457565 Isee |
| 23:26.25 | daemonkeeper | I see |
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| 23:26.35 | themill | slocate was replaced by mlocate; mlocate does everything that slocate used to do plus a lot more. and it doesn't thrash your machine to update the database |
| 23:27.34 | Odaym | but back to the main question |
| 23:27.46 | Odaym | oh |
| 23:27.51 | Odaym | i wasn't asking that question here |
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| 23:28.09 | Mikaze | Where were you asking it then. |
| 23:28.16 | simonrvn | mlocate++ |
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| 23:30.37 | Mikaze | Breaded chicken and scalloped potatoes for dinner! MMMmmm. |
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| 23:34.23 | eigenman | Quick question: how effective is prelink? |
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| 23:34.37 | wobblyonions | anyone here able to assist me with loding MIB's etc |
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| 23:36.18 | babilen | wobblyonions: How many man in black do you try to load? (AKA: What are you trying to do? What is the expected outcome? What obstacles/errors do you run into?) |
| 23:36.37 | loafers | hello i have a sparc keyboard and how do i configure it so that the pressing the special character acts as the alt button? |
| 23:36.43 | dvs | hides |
| 23:37.04 | SushiDude | Does debian sid have gnome-shell in the repos? |
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| 23:37.40 | babilen | SushiDude: http://packages.debian.org or use "rmadison" from the devscripts package |
| 23:37.49 | wobblyonions | babilen, I am trying to get some stats from a SUN server and have the SUN-SNMP mib but not sure how to get it working correctly etc, looking to do an SNMP walk of the SUn device using the MIB, have tried snpwalk -v2c -c xxx hostname -m /path/to/mib/filename.mib but need to understand it better |
| 23:37.54 | LinuxGuy2009 | When you run 'tasksel' and deselect graphical desktop to remove the default installed desktop environment, where on the system does it keep a record of what desktop environment to add/remove? |
| 23:37.59 | wobblyonions | hope that makes some sort of sense |
| 23:38.18 | SushiDude | babilen, thanks. |
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| 23:39.31 | dvs | LinuxGuy2009: the Desktop Environment option installs the gnome virtual package. |
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| 23:39.39 | babilen | wobblyonions: Well, I have never worked with these technologies, but it is a much better question :) Are you searching for documentation? |
| 23:39.47 | wobblyonions | I am getting data coming back but its not being mapped to the information in the MIB file etc, all the data is coming back as iso.3.6.1.2.1.2.1.0 rather than the name etc |
| 23:40.10 | wobblyonions | bablien - if anyone has a tutorial guide onr something like MIB 101 it would be great |
| 23:41.30 | arand | LinuxGuy2009: Suggestion to never use tasksel to remove stuff, it tends to forcefully remove all packages related to said task, and let the system dependencies deal with it accordingly, (removing gnome might remove half of xfce as well). |
| 23:41.40 | babilen | wobblyonions: Sorry, I can't help you with that. Just wanted to ask for a more informative question. (btw, try "bab<TAB>" to tab-complete nicknames (or paths) in here) |
| 23:41.45 | LinuxGuy2009 | dvs: Oh. Well what Im looking for is a way to remove a desktop environment and install another cleanly without having to clean install. |
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| 23:41.57 | nkuttler | LinuxGuy2009: which de? |
| 23:43.00 | arand | LinuxGuy2009: Then again, thid forceful removal might be what you are after in this specific case, do run it with --simulte first though, and inpecct carefully! |
| 23:43.22 | arand | LinuxGuy2009: * --simulate |
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| 23:57.44 | electronplusplus | Hi folks, i need ideias. Right now I built a cluster with all the pcs of my college, i have already cracked a lot of password, hash and etc... now what? xD |
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| 23:58.26 | themill | electronplusplus: rebuild the debian archive with qt4.7 and python2.7 to see what breaks. |
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| 23:59.12 | electronplusplus | I want ideas to work with the grid |
| 23:59.30 | joeytwiddle | seti@home or the protein folding project? |
| 23:59.38 | joeytwiddle | or electricsheep! |
| 23:59.47 | electronplusplus | i know but... |
| 23:59.47 | themill | electronplusplus: this wasn't on-topic in #ubuntu and isn't on-topic in #debian. |
