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| 00:00.33 | yagoo | nyl, http://forum.proxmox.com/threads/4372-dab-install-debian-backports-keyring-doesn-t-work-anymore |
| 00:01.04 | yagoo | nmind that.. it doesnt exist .. |
| 00:01.06 | yagoo | strange |
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| 00:02.26 | jelly-home | karsten-nr: tried sending manually to see if it works at all? |
| 00:02.41 | jelly-home | karsten-nr: your smarthost, that is |
| 00:02.48 | karsten-nr | jelly-home: ?? |
| 00:03.00 | karsten-nr | jelly-home: The same host / user / pass / port works fine with mutt. |
| 00:03.07 | karsten-nr | jelly-home: I'm just trying to set up the MTA to do it. |
| 00:03.45 | jelly-home | karsten-nr: so, mutt with smtp_url is able to send mail there? |
| 00:04.07 | karsten-nr | jelly-home: And has for months. |
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| 00:05.09 | jelly-home | k, so you're past that point |
| 00:05.28 | karsten-nr | jelly-home: I'm trying to convince exim to tell me more about what it's doing. It connects to host/port. Then doesn't do a whole lot. |
| 00:05.30 | jelly-home | I'll let some exim user talk. |
| 00:05.43 | karsten-nr | I'm in #exim but not getting much there. |
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| 00:16.59 | el_btd | Hi. I always wonder and I can never remember or find it on the website: is lenny still support, and if so, for how long? |
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| 00:19.07 | AnthLee | for 1 year |
| 00:19.11 | AnthLee | on desktops |
| 00:19.20 | AnthLee | 2 years on servers yet I believe |
| 00:19.48 | AnthLee | I would highly recommend upgrading to Debian Squeeze though |
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| 00:20.34 | WaterRatj | Noone by chance has a good guide for postfix + sasl for debian ? |
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| 00:21.25 | el_btd | AnthLee: desktop meaning desktop environments and gui applications? |
| 00:22.00 | el_btd | AnthLee: my vServer provider is not offering the upgrade yet, so i was wondering if I can blame him :-) |
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| 00:22.40 | AnthLee | el_btd, pretty much and no it is still under security support for awhile |
| 00:22.57 | AnthLee | he should get on the ball and offer you an upgrade though ;) |
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| 00:24.20 | owen1 | i want to have netinst of debian 6 on a usb since i don't have cd (thinkpad x61). any links/guides? |
| 00:24.29 | el_btd | AnthLee: that's what I think! I was just wondering if i could include "ETCH ISN'T EVEN SUPPORTED ANYMORE!!!11one GIMME SQUEEZE!!" in the mails to come. hehe. |
| 00:24.49 | el_btd | s/ETCH/LENNY/ |
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| 00:26.28 | AnthLee | owen1, you could follow the guide here http://salinelinux.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=installsetup&action=display&thread=29 It works on any of the hybrid Debian images ... The command line section at the bottom will work without installing any extra software |
| 00:26.54 | AnthLee | the graphical program they mention is just a GUI built using Zenity for the dd command .. |
| 00:27.11 | owen1 | AnthLee: thanks |
| 00:27.16 | AnthLee | np |
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| 00:28.39 | Miesco | !software mixing |
| 00:28.47 | Miesco | !softmix |
| 00:28.48 | Miesco | !alsa |
| 00:29.22 | babilen | !tell Miesco about msgthebot |
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| 00:32.09 | Talon_ | is there a tool to record the desktop as a video file? so rather than a screenshot i could make a quick snippet video of something im doing? |
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| 00:33.25 | anon^_^ | yes |
| 00:33.44 | owen1 | does anyone know if x61 is 32bit or 64? |
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| 00:36.47 | finter | Hi everyone. Question regarding hibernation: I recently installed another distro to a different partition. During the install process, it apparently reformatted my swap partition, resulting in the partition receiving a new UUID. This confused my primary installation (Squeeze), resulting in it not using the swap, and hibernation failing. I edited /etc/fstab to reflect the new UUID, but hibernation still doesn't work. Does anyone k |
| 00:37.34 | finter | owen1: x86 is 32-bit, if that's what you meant. I've never heard of x61. |
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| 00:40.58 | pipeline | owen1: using 32 bit is usually a good idea regardless |
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| 00:41.10 | pipeline | owen1: an x61 is probably 64-bit capable, but it offers little benefit |
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| 00:43.39 | finter | pipeline: Haha, are we talking about a thinkpad here? |
| 00:43.48 | finter | (google) |
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| 00:44.59 | Miesco | Its just that I do not know the command to the bot for alsa software mixing |
| 00:45.03 | saebbi | so i have this debian box with no GUI installed. it basically has been running for 2,5 years, all i did was access every now and then with ssh and update.. now i need to install some kind of lightweight GUI and get Xen to work, which means compile a kernel etc |
| 00:45.25 | saebbi | i can't break the system, thats crucial |
| 00:45.37 | saebbi | so what is my best way to approach this? |
| 00:46.11 | saebbi | i'm assuming i can't just do "apt-get install kde" or something |
| 00:46.53 | Miesco | !dmix |
| 00:46.53 | dpkg | somebody said dmix was an <ALSA> subsystem which allows an audio device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix or another sample asound.conf at http://img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 00:48.18 | finter | fyi, i believe you COULD do that, though KDE wouldnt' be my "lightweight" choice. But I'm assuming you're expecting a more elaborate method based on the fact that it's a production, so I'd wait for an experienced sysadmin type to give you a more subtle answer. |
| 00:48.28 | finter | production machine |
| 00:48.46 | saebbi | finter, kde was just an example. not sure what window manager i want actually |
| 00:49.40 | finter | saebbi: well, yes, you can certainly just install the Desktop Environment. But again, i'm not an experienced sysadmin type, so there might be more subtle wrangling to do. |
| 00:50.33 | saebbi | yea thats why i came here |
| 00:50.45 | finter | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:52.34 | finter | [removes self from conversation] Anyone know how saebbi could most conservatively add a GUI to his production machine? |
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| 00:53.09 | saebbi | hehe |
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| 00:53.42 | saebbi | i need to choose a window manager to start with. it should be lightweight and have good support |
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| 00:54.45 | saebbi | i used fluxbox a few years back, that wasn't so bad afair |
| 00:55.08 | karsten-nr | WaterRatj: Try #postfix generally. |
| 00:55.12 | pipeline | saebbi: installing a GUI will be in no way disruptive, do whatever you want |
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| 00:55.23 | amphi | xmonad is nice, but you need a lot of stuff if you want to use anything but the default config |
| 00:55.38 | pipeline | saebbi: installing xen is hugely disruptive in that it mean replacing the kernel with an entirely different kernel, all extra drivers/code will have to be rebuilt etc |
| 00:56.00 | pipeline | saebbi: don't install xen on an existing production host that is not already running a xen kernel haha |
| 00:56.33 | saebbi | pipeline, its the only machine that has hardware virtualization support.. i have no choice ;) |
| 00:56.40 | pipeline | saebbi: welp have fun with disruption then |
| 00:56.57 | pipeline | saebbi: alternatively kvm is probably already built into your kernel, no change necessary. Just install userspace tools and go. |
| 00:57.25 | saebbi | pipeline, fwiw there is no extra drivers/code so maybe i'll be lucky and everything works well ^ |
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| 00:57.49 | saebbi | pipeline, have to use Xen because other tools depend on it |
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| 00:58.50 | saebbi | i have all weekend. wish me luck :D |
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| 00:59.58 | mohamed-ragab | hi , i want to close ssh in my vps |
| 01:00.01 | mohamed-ragab | how to |
| 01:00.02 | mohamed-ragab | ? |
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| 01:00.32 | finter | Good luck, saebbi. |
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| 01:01.08 | finter | Can anyone answer this question regarding hibernation: I recently installed another distro to a different partition. During the install process, it apparently reformatted my swap partition, resulting in the partition receiving a new UUID. This confused my primary installation (Squeeze), resulting in it not using the swap, and hibernation failing. I edited /etc/fstab to reflect the new UUID, and it now used the swap, but hibernation |
| 01:01.39 | finter | hibernation to work correctly? |
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| 01:11.51 | Miesco | mplayer 2>1 >/dev/null |
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| 01:32.36 | palhmbs | why does trickle not bandwidth limit / shape apt-get? |
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| 01:33.18 | palhmbs | I tried limiting download to 5Kb/s --- apt-get ignored my trickle wrapper and went on ahead and downloaded at 32KB/s |
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| 01:33.53 | palhmbs | trickle works ok for synaptic, why not for apt-get? |
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| 01:39.35 | dutchfish | palhmbs, curently apt-get is not aware of a diversion for trickle. Workaround "trickle -d [speed in ks/s] apt-get upgrade" etc |
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| 01:40.07 | dutchfish | palhmbs, maybe aptitude is (not sure) |
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| 01:40.49 | dutchfish | palhmbs, or make your own diversion for apt-get |
| 01:40.57 | palhmbs | boo hoo - I'll have to use gui tool synaptic, I don't like aptitude, lack of use really. |
| 01:41.03 | wolfric | Any documentation on laptops with debian? Like how the keys for lightness are used or packages to read battery, sense lid closed etc. |
| 01:41.06 | palhmbs | making my own diversion sounds interesting. |
| 01:41.43 | dutchfish | palhmbs, see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20342.html (not tested) |
| 01:42.23 | palhmbs | thanks dutchfish - really appreciated |
| 01:42.28 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 01:46.13 | s3a | I was under the impression that when Debian testing is frozen that it no longer gets non-release-critical bugs but this guy told me that this is not true and that the case is that non-release-critical bugs ARE tended to during the testing freeze but they do not govern the decision of whether or not/when to release as stable. Is he right? |
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| 01:47.19 | s3a | (It's only when it's actually Stable for the revision updates that there is no non-security bugfixes?) |
| 01:47.50 | dutchfish | s3a, only when they get 'will be ignored', there are good reasons for that or need to be at least, if i have read you right .... |
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| 01:50.18 | palhmbs | dutchfish, that thread was extremely helpful - specifically creating a extra config script in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/76download |
| 01:50.20 | s3a | dutchfish, well i had filed a bug once for kdenlive for example and it could not deal with ogv files and it was deemed "too late in the freeze" to fix - why would it be too late, isn't the freeze supposed to take as long as necessary? |
| 01:50.36 | palhmbs | now all I need to remember is change it back when I want it full speed |
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| 01:51.05 | dutchfish | s3a, but release critical and security will always be incorporated or maintained even after release through security updates or in the next point release; in ccase of a lack of a feature, look at backports or ask about simple sid backport. |
| 01:51.12 | dutchfish | palhmbs, ah, good to hear |
| 01:51.57 | Big_Brother | anyone have a link to the debian squeeze DVDs (torrent) ? |
| 01:52.00 | s3a | dutchfish, i know how to backport myself and use backports, the thing is i want debian stable to be 100% stable |
| 01:52.08 | s3a | (wrong way to phrase it) |
| 01:52.18 | blast_hardcheese | Sorry, quick audio issue; How do I choose alsa+dmix over pulse audio? I had alsa+dmix set up perfectly, but I've installed something that requires pulseaudio and now even mplayer and quodlibet have switched over to pulse. |
| 01:52.52 | blast_hardcheese | I can manually override by specifying -ao alsa for mplayer and then sound works again, but the default is still pulse |
| 01:52.57 | s3a | dutchfish, is it a rule? if I became a developer (like I am planning to as soon as I am capable), will my patches be rejected? |
| 01:54.21 | dutchfish | s3a, no paches will be rejected if they are usefull; however consider that if the process of preparing a next release wouldnt have a frozen state, we would never get a next release ... |
| 01:54.31 | dutchfish | s/paches/patches |
| 01:54.37 | blast_hardcheese | Oh jeez; Turns out the pulseaudio daemon was still running; Time to file a bug report. |
| 01:55.30 | dutchfish | s3a, so, make sure your patches come in in a time before the final freeze is a fact |
| 01:55.52 | dutchfish | s3a, this is only for non-criticals as you stated |
| 01:55.56 | s3a | dutchfish, sorry for my ignorance but are we always told ahead of time when the freeze will be or is it a surprise? |
| 01:56.14 | finter | s3a: Hooray for that type of contribution, kudos to you if you are able to start deving. |
| 01:56.23 | simonrvn | sub to debian-devel-announce |
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| 01:57.13 | s3a | ok but there is no formal announcement? |
| 01:57.16 | s3a | like on the home page? |
| 01:57.42 | s3a | or wait only finalized stuff go on the home page i'm guessing |
| 01:57.45 | dutchfish | s3a, yes, there are actually to states when debian is frozen, at the very end you could call it deep freeze, only very urgent critcial mathers ar ebeing fixed contrary when the freeze started, this is all very well documented see the dev section and dnmg |
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| 01:58.22 | s3a | dutchfish, could you give me the exact link(s) please? :) |
| 01:59.03 | s3a | dutchfish, ok so "too late in the process" meant deep-freeze with the kdenlive scenario? |
| 02:00.05 | dutchfish | s3a, well, we have google ;) but ok. http://timeline.debian.net/ | http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ | http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/resources |
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| 02:00.36 | khaleel5000 | hi i have a 2.5" laptop harddisk connected to my laptop (HP dv5) via a USB case, works fine, previously has worked fine, (and windows, even now in windows pasting spped over 20mbps) but in debinan (SID) less than 1mbps! {additonal hdparm outputs http://pastebin.com/UdJWjmvi) |
| 02:00.45 | dutchfish | s3a, yes |
| 02:01.30 | dutchfish | s3a, example: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/11/msg00006.html |
| 02:01.58 | dutchfish | s3a, d-dev-ann is worth to follow btw |
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| 02:21.02 | s3a | dutchfish, thanks i'll keep those links for a detailed read later, i'm going to sleep now, bye |
| 02:21.41 | dutchfish | s3a, yw |
| 02:22.34 | DammitJim | how do you enable hibernation or standby mode? |
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| 02:25.42 | amphi | DammitJim: the old-fashioned way to hibernate is 'echo disk > /sys/power/state' |
| 02:26.04 | amphi | there are various other methods |
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| 02:31.01 | saebbi_ | /home/saebbi# xm list |
| 02:31.01 | saebbi_ | Name ID Mem VCPUs State Time(s) |
| 02:31.01 | saebbi_ | Domain-0 0 1652 2 r----- 65.3 |
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| 02:31.51 | wolfric | What would be the propper sources.list entries for testing? |
| 02:32.31 | saebbi_ | deb ftp://ftp.uni-koeln.de/debian testing main contrib non-free |
| 02:32.31 | saebbi_ | deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free |
| 02:32.31 | saebbi_ | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main |
| 02:32.35 | tian2992 | hi, I want to use a server of mine as a build server for .debs |
| 02:32.37 | tian2992 | any tips? |
| 02:32.40 | tian2992 | guides? |
| 02:33.08 | wolfric | saebbi_: what's the debian-multimedia.org one for? |
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| 02:34.07 | saebbi_ | wolfric, i think i had to add that when i was playing around with pulseaudio when it was not yet supported the way it is now |
| 02:34.19 | saebbi_ | wolfric, not sure if i actually still need that entry |
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| 02:36.16 | wolfric | saebbi_: security testing/updates doesn't give you normal updates does it? Where do you get those? |
| 02:36.35 | wolfric | a |
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| 02:37.10 | saebbi_ | wolfric, the line above the security one |
| 02:37.11 | wolfric | saebbi_: as in there's normally something like http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing-updates main or something of the sort in addition to the testing/updates from security |
| 02:38.15 | WaterRatj | Anyone knows why vnstat doesn't have an crontab? |
| 02:42.32 | Mr_Queue | WaterRatj: It runs every 5 minutes here. Did you read the docs with it? |
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| 02:43.53 | WaterRatj | normally lenny has a crontab, but seems squeeze is using deamon, will that auto run each 5 mins to? |
| 02:44.21 | Mr_Queue | WaterRatj: Did you build the database? |
| 02:44.48 | WaterRatj | yes i installed then used the vnstat -i -u myinterface, vnstat works but doesn't update each 5 mins |
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| 02:45.46 | Mr_Queue | WaterRatj: Look at the docs that come with it. /usr/share/doc/vnstat or have a look at the man page and the files listed at the bottom of the man page. |
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| 02:48.24 | WaterRatj | still doesn't make me any clearer lol |
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| 02:48.51 | Sw33NY_ | hi all |
| 02:50.41 | Arrowmaster | tian2992: look into pbuilder or buildd |
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| 02:52.02 | Mr_Queue | WaterRatj: Listed in /etc/init.d/ ? Look at /etc/vnstat.conf ? |
| 02:53.05 | Mr_Queue | WaterRatj: Best guess here is you're on a laptop and want the data on wlan0 but it is defaulting to eth0, which would be fixed in the vnstat.conf file. |
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| 02:53.48 | WaterRatj | aha nonno see default time is 30 in deamon ^^ |
| 02:53.50 | Mr_Queue | I was wrong on 5 minutes. It is updated every 5 seconds. |
| 02:54.00 | WaterRatj | when i changed the conf file do ineed to restart vnstat? |
| 02:54.24 | Mr_Queue | Good chance of that. But can't say for sure. Wouldn't hurt anything. |
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| 02:55.08 | WaterRatj | hmm |
| 02:55.19 | WaterRatj | i was wrong it says 30 seconds in file but still not updating |
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| 02:56.02 | Sw33NY_ | i'm french, hmm i have an error on my Debian Squeeze with two pci cards |
| 02:56.07 | ectospasm | I've only been using xmonad for a day, and I like it better than awesome |
| 02:56.21 | stillbourne | Ok, I'm trying to remaster a livecd with a kernel I compiled from vanilla sources from kernel.org ( version 2.6.38.1 ) I've done a update-initramfs to rebuild the initrd after I compiled the kernel and freinds and copied the vmlinuz to the appropriate location. However my boot drops me into initramfs and does not load the squashfs filessystem. Any Ideas? |
| 02:56.49 | Sw33NY_ | http://paste.debian.net/112041/ do you know this ? |
| 02:58.06 | stillbourne | Sw33NY_, lspci -n and lspci -nn |
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| 02:58.42 | stillbourne | find what piece of hardware its talking about |
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| 02:59.11 | Mr_Queue | WaterRatj: see.. /usr/share/doc/vnstat |
| 02:59.12 | Mr_Queue | /usr/share/man/man5/vnstat.conf.5.gz |
| 02:59.12 | Mr_Queue | /usr/share/man/man1/vnstatd.1.gz |
| 02:59.12 | Mr_Queue | /usr/share/man/man1/vnstat.1.gz |
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| 02:59.13 | Sw33NY_ | one minute please |
| 02:59.34 | stillbourne | lol |
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| 03:00.08 | Mr_Queue | trigger happy bot. |
| 03:00.28 | stillbourne | pastebin if its over 3 lines |
| 03:00.41 | stillbourne | or else |
| 03:00.45 | stillbourne | heh |
| 03:00.48 | Mr_Queue | I was thinking 5, but... lol.. It's late. |
| 03:01.06 | Sw33NY_ | stillbourne: it's my network card and sata controller card |
| 03:01.37 | stillbourne | model? |
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| 03:01.55 | Sw33NY_ | on Ubuntu chan, it say "<spirals> Sw33NY_, is there an actual problem that you've noticed in usage (anything to solve immediately?) I found this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/424142" and "<spirals> Sw33NY_, but I'm not getting any sense of how it affects the user" |
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| 03:03.08 | Mr_Queue | The ubuntu channel would give advice to walk off a cliff. It is no shit - blind leading the blind - ... |
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| 03:03.11 | Sw33NY_ | but, i have an soft raid with mdadm, raid 5, and i wonder if this affects my performance ? |
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| 03:03.46 | stillbourne | it would |
| 03:03.55 | stillbourne | any soft raid is slow |
| 03:04.07 | stillbourne | oh wait |
| 03:04.22 | Sw33NY_ | 40Mo/sec for 3 drives sata 5400rpm 64mo |
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| 03:05.24 | stillbourne | your asking if the kernel no loading software raid controller would make your software raid slower? last I checked softraid with mdadm is faster than what you will find with any other non-hardware raid controller |
| 03:05.36 | stillbourne | if your array is functional |
| 03:05.40 | stillbourne | then you are find |
| 03:05.46 | stillbourne | s/find/fine |
| 03:06.03 | Sw33NY_ | oh oh minutes please because i réinstall my debian |
| 03:06.09 | stillbourne | dont bother getting a software raid controller working not worth the effort |
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| 03:07.53 | Sw33NY_ | hmm i dont understand "with any other non-hardware raid controller" |
| 03:08.14 | Sw33NY_ | my pci controller it's only for extended my sata port on my CM |
| 03:08.23 | Sw33NY_ | that is ok ? |
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| 03:09.11 | tian2992 | thanks Arrowmaster! |
| 03:09.14 | tian2992 | is leaving |
| 03:09.16 | tian2992 | greets! |
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| 03:09.37 | Sw33NY_ | s/find/fine : -bash s/find/fine : no directory or file ... |
| 03:09.42 | stillbourne | how much did you pay for your raid controller |
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| 03:10.15 | Sw33NY_ | stillbourne: =) it's no raid controller card |
| 03:10.23 | Sw33NY_ | hmm 25€ :) |
| 03:10.27 | Sw33NY_ | 20$ |
| 03:10.28 | stillbourne | ahhh |
| 03:10.29 | stillbourne | ok |
| 03:10.35 | stillbourne | its just a sata card? |
| 03:10.39 | Sw33NY_ | yeah |
| 03:10.41 | stillbourne | ok |
| 03:10.47 | Sw33NY_ | :) |
| 03:11.03 | Sw33NY_ | sorry ... i dont speak english very well |
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| 03:11.16 | stillbourne | and you have them currently running in a raid 5 configuration you built with mdadm |
| 03:11.38 | Sw33NY_ | i have check my raid, it's running |
| 03:11.58 | Sw33NY_ | state : active |
| 03:11.58 | Sw33NY_ | active device : 3 |
| 03:11.58 | Sw33NY_ | working device : 3 |
| 03:12.11 | stillbourne | good |
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| 03:13.05 | stillbourne | and you are worried about the error that is showing in dmesg? |
| 03:13.44 | stillbourne | I would not be concerned |
| 03:13.51 | Sw33NY_ | yeah and i want to know if this affects my performance |
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| 03:14.03 | stillbourne | it would not |
| 03:14.13 | stillbourne | mdadm raid is the slow |
| 03:14.13 | Sw33NY_ | ok |
| 03:14.26 | stillbourne | you cannot really speed it up |
| 03:14.40 | stillbourne | unless you buy a hardware raid controller |
| 03:14.52 | stillbourne | about $400usd |
| 03:14.53 | ChibaPet | So, how does testing end up getting new kernels and such? I've never run Sid before today, but I put it on a laptop to test the waters, and I noticed the 2.6.38 kernel. What generally has to happen before that makes it into Testing? |
| 03:15.06 | Sw33NY_ | too expesive |
| 03:15.10 | Sw33NY_ | expensive* |
| 03:15.20 | stillbourne | Sw33NY_, then dont worry about it being fast |
| 03:15.35 | stillbourne | you can have it fast or you can have it cheap |
| 03:15.39 | stillbourne | you cannot have both |
| 03:15.49 | Sw33NY_ | :/ |
| 03:16.05 | Sw33NY_ | just one minute i want to ... look .. one minute please |
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| 03:20.43 | stillbourne | is there a casper mailing list or something? |
| 03:21.00 | ChibaPet | Casper? |
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| 03:21.25 | stillbourne | its what most debian systems use for livecd boot scripts |
| 03:21.45 | ChibaPet | Ah, hm. |
| 03:22.47 | stillbourne | I'm trying to get kernel 2.6.38 on livecd so that I can get usbhid working for this motherboard |
| 03:23.07 | stillbourne | I've compiled the kernel |
| 03:23.16 | stillbourne | built the initrd |
| 03:23.26 | stillbourne | the livecd boots |
| 03:24.06 | stillbourne | but it does not get past initramfs in the initrd to actuall boot to the main os |
| 03:24.42 | ChibaPet | Have you booted 2.6.38 using the Debian packages, rather than by hand, out of curiosity? |
| 03:25.37 | ChibaPet | That's part of my interest in running Unstable lately - Squeeze's 2.6.32 can't deal with a couple pieces of hardware on my work laptop. |
| 03:25.54 | ChibaPet | So I'm running Fedora now, but I'd rather go back to Debian on it. |
| 03:25.55 | crapeau | stillbourne: did you include aufs or unionfs or wichone is used in your kernel or initrd. |
| 03:26.16 | Sw33NY_ | stillbourne: i screenshot for you my desktop ... i dont know explain |
| 03:26.56 | stillbourne | crapeau, one moment |
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| 03:27.57 | CompWizrd | any support for sandybridge's IGP in squeeze? complains it can't find the chip and falls back to vesa |
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| 03:28.02 | stillbourne | Sw33NY_, upload the screen shot to imgur |
| 03:28.18 | Sw33NY_ | ok |
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| 03:28.51 | Sw33NY_ | stillbourne: http://i.imgur.com/tncN4.png |
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| 03:30.00 | crapeau | stillboune: or mayby squashfs as the older version was using? |
| 03:30.44 | stillbourne | Sw33NY_, I don't see anything out of the ordinary. |
| 03:31.07 | stillbourne | crapeau, is unionfs and aufs listed under misc filesystems? |
| 03:31.36 | Sw33NY_ | this speed is ok ? |
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| 03:32.51 | stillbourne | Sw33NY_, I think so is that french or italian? |
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| 03:33.05 | crapeau | stillboune: You mean in the kernel sources? |
| 03:33.14 | Sw33NY_ | french stillbourne |
| 03:33.19 | stillbourne | crapeau, yeah under make menuconfig |
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| 03:33.59 | stillbourne | Sw33NY_, I think its fine if I'm reading it correctly |
| 03:34.19 | CompWizrd | ok, sandybridge IGP doesn't work in testing either.. time to try sid, heh |
| 03:34.42 | Sw33NY_ | ah yeah |
| 03:34.43 | Sw33NY_ | sorry |
| 03:34.45 | stillbourne | CompWizrd, you couldnt get it to work with 2.6.38? |
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| 03:35.10 | CompWizrd | haven't tried anything but a debian kernel yet |
| 03:35.46 | stillbourne | I'd just grab a vanilla source and try it with the lastest |
| 03:35.51 | CompWizrd | was hoping i could get it going under stable, as this will be a mythtv-frontend, and mythtv is barely stable enough to use when you have everything matching up, i'd be horrible trying to get different versions going |
| 03:36.10 | crapeau | stillbourne: i don't know, but be grepping squashfs (aufs or unionfs, i don't know wich one for 2.6.38) in .config of the sources of the kernel you will se if you included it |
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| 03:36.38 | ChibaPet | Comp, maybe set up apt pinning to just get the newer kernel? |
| 03:36.43 | stillbourne | ahh didn't think of that |
| 03:36.44 | ChibaPet | And run testing otherwise? |
| 03:36.45 | stillbourne | heh |
| 03:36.54 | CompWizrd | want stable though :) |
| 03:37.00 | crapeau | stillbourne: i don't know wich one for casper, i mean |
| 03:37.02 | ChibaPet | stable then, but with sid's kernel |
| 03:37.07 | stillbourne | oh |
| 03:37.17 | stillbourne | casper uses unionfs |
| 03:37.18 | CompWizrd | i've already messed this box up enough i have to reinstall after, so i'll just go up to sid and see if it works there |
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| 03:37.40 | CompWizrd | if it doesn't work in sid then i'll go find another video card |
| 03:37.57 | crapeau | stillbourne: grep unionfs .config |
| 03:38.05 | Sw33NY_ | stillbourne: http://i.imgur.com/xweOr.png i want to know if my speed in bottom right is normally |
| 03:38.15 | stillbourne | crapeau, nothing |
| 03:38.23 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there a way to get software-center to work with the repository DVD set? It acts like its only good for online only. Any way to get it to work? |
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| 03:39.26 | stillbourne | crapeau, is there a kernel patch I have to apply for unionfs |
| 03:39.45 | Sw33NY_ | in soft raid with mdadm, the southbridge works hard ? |
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| 03:39.54 | crapeau | stillboune: you definitely need unionfs, in you kernel, or else no system.... |
| 03:40.16 | stillbourne | Sw33NY_, ahh 41MB write speed seems correct |
| 03:40.16 | ectospasm | I'm moving from Ubuntu to Debian soon... since squeeze just made full release, I was thinking of going with that. Is there any reason I should choose wheezy or sid over squeeze? I plan to switch by July |
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| 03:40.44 | stillbourne | crapeau, sorry for some reason I though that was part of the mainline kernel it been around for ages. |
| 03:40.45 | crapeau | stillbourne: sorry, i dont know. I have no interest now for newer kernel... I'm dealing mostly with older hw. |
| 03:40.58 | stillbourne | crapeau, no worries |
| 03:41.03 | ChibaPet | ectospasm, I suspect you'll be happy with Squeeze. |
| 03:41.13 | Sw33NY_ | ok thanks stillbourne |
| 03:41.33 | stillbourne | the read speeds look good too |
| 03:41.51 | stillbourne | I dont think you can get much better with software raid |
| 03:42.04 | crapeau | stillboune: i'm making livecd pretty often. But for old ppc and penthium. ;-) |
| 03:42.16 | Sw33NY_ | i just want "much better write speed" :/ |
| 03:42.24 | Sw33NY_ | i dont know if it possibily |
| 03:42.31 | stillbourne | crapeau, this is my first attempt so I'm only slightly in over my head |
| 03:42.42 | crapeau | stillboune: did you try finnix |
| 03:42.44 | CompWizrd | 41 m/s seems painfully slow to me.. what's the hardware again? |
| 03:43.24 | stillbourne | crapeau, the boss was specific I'm actually trying to remaster backtrack for out lab machines I need this done by next friday |
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| 03:43.41 | stillbourne | they are optiplex 760s |
| 03:43.43 | Sw33NY_ | CompWizrd: it's an ASROCK K8NF4G with pci cards sata controller (no raid just sata) and 3 drives sata 5400rpm 64mo |
| 03:43.47 | crapeau | stillbourne: trying is the only way to succeed.... |
| 03:43.53 | stillbourne | crapeau, I know |
| 03:44.05 | CompWizrd | pci? there's your bottleneck there if it's not pci-e |
| 03:44.08 | crapeau | stillbourne: wich version of backtrack |
| 03:44.10 | stillbourne | I just thought I'd start asking around abit |
| 03:44.21 | stillbourne | thanks for the advice |
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| 03:45.20 | Sw33NY_ | CompWizrd: it's my pci card "qui fout la merde" |
| 03:45.21 | Sw33NY_ | lol |
| 03:45.30 | crapeau | stillbourne: from what i know backtrack is slackware derivative! |
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| 03:45.34 | Sw33NY_ | slow speed because pci card ? |
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| 03:46.01 | CompWizrd | pci cards gets a ~100 m/s max speed because of the pci bus, and that's also shared with anything else on pci (unless you're fortunate enough to have a server with multiple pci buses) |
| 03:46.19 | stillbourne | crapeau, that was a long time ago its based off ubuntu now |
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| 03:46.31 | crapeau | Sw33NY: define slow? |
| 03:46.55 | crapeau | stillbourne: sorry, living in the past, it seem :-O |
| 03:47.01 | stillbourne | heh |
| 03:47.03 | CompWizrd | i have a 3ware 9500S hardware controller sitting on PCI with 12 drives attached, and it won't do over 100 meg/sec.. i have to find a cheap MB with pci-x, or 64bit pci slots.. easier for me to buy a pci-e 9750 and a SAS expander |
| 03:47.06 | Sw33NY_ | CompWizrd: network card and pci sata card only |
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| 03:47.23 | Sw33NY_ | crapeau: 41Mo/sec ... :/ |
| 03:47.31 | stillbourne | write |
| 03:47.32 | Sw33NY_ | i have created my array to 60Mo/sec |
| 03:47.34 | Sw33NY_ | yes |
| 03:47.36 | stillbourne | that his write speed |
| 03:47.45 | stillbourne | on a software raid |
| 03:48.09 | Sw33NY_ | yes, raid 5 with mdadm |
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| 03:48.50 | stillbourne | sounds fine to me |
| 03:48.58 | Sw33NY_ | CompWizrd: raid hardware.... it's different |
| 03:50.01 | crapeau | Sw33NY: wich raid? |
| 03:50.20 | Sw33NY_ | crapeau: ? what do you want to know ? |
| 03:50.22 | CompWizrd | 8676900000 bytes (8.7 GB) copied, 17.2022 s, 504 MB/s |
| 03:50.22 | CompWizrd | pets his raid0 |
| 03:50.22 | CompWizrd | software, at that |
| 03:50.33 | Sw33NY_ | *fuck* |
| 03:50.39 | Sw33NY_ | :/ |
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| 03:50.50 | CompWizrd | mine's cheating though, it's a raid0 of two drives |
| 03:50.53 | ogkwrer | hi |
| 03:50.55 | CompWizrd | and they're 64 meg SSD's. :) |
| 03:51.00 | stillbourne | yeah |
| 03:51.06 | crapeau | Sw33NY: For speed or data security |
| 03:51.10 | stillbourne | those speed would only work on ssds |
| 03:51.19 | stillbourne | I was going to say |
| 03:51.41 | simonrvn | CompWizrd: do those ssds come in scsi? |
| 03:51.42 | CompWizrd | it's actually an OCZ RevoDrive pci-e card |
| 03:51.51 | CompWizrd | simonrvn: sas you mean? :) |
| 03:52.06 | simonrvn | no, i mean what i said :) |
| 03:52.08 | stillbourne | CompWizrd, 41MB/s is fast for software raid on hdd's |
| 03:52.13 | Sw33NY_ | crapeau: i dont want raid 0 / 1 |
| 03:52.20 | CompWizrd | simonrvn: i don't believe anyone does SSD on scsi :) |
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| 03:52.28 | simonrvn | ok, thanks |
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| 03:52.43 | CompWizrd | and it's really hard to find SSD on IDE(but it can be done) |
| 03:53.25 | simonrvn | *nods* |
| 03:53.28 | CompWizrd | ok, sid dist-upgrade amost done.. time to see if i need to find a video card |
| 03:53.42 | Sw33NY_ | ssd is good but too expensive... only for système, no raid 5 for data with ssd ^^ |
| 03:53.51 | Sw33NY_ | for os* |
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| 03:55.36 | Sw33NY_ | now, i would like to know if i can work eth0 and wlan0, when i start wlan0, eth0 stop .. why ? |
| 03:57.02 | Sw33NY_ | i use wicd for my network connection |
| 03:57.29 | CompWizrd | ok, so intel works for sandybridge IGP in sid |
| 03:58.00 | CompWizrd | so i'll reinstall and try my own 2.6.38 kernel in stable |
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| 03:58.05 | crapeau | stillbourne: i would like to help you in your project, coz i like bactrack, but i hate ubuntu... :-( |
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| 04:11.14 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there a way to "authenticate" my DVD repo set so I can use them with software-center? |
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| 04:14.15 | Parthiban | what is the version i have to download in debain so that it contains the kernel v2.4.9? |
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| 04:15.03 | deconvolution | why use that kernel ? |
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| 04:16.50 | Parthiban | i am doing a project on performance of linux kernel that use other than red black trees....thats y!!! |
| 04:16.55 | yoshio | ,versions linux-image-686 |
| 04:16.55 | judd | Package linux-image-686 on i386 -- lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.32+27~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.6.32+29; wheezy: 2.6.32+29; sid: 2.6.38+32 |
| 04:17.40 | Parthiban | currently i am downloading the following version under woody....debian-3.0r6-i386-binary-1.iso.... |
| 04:17.46 | Parthiban | is that correct version? |
| 04:18.41 | crapeau | Parthiban: from what iknow, no debian version used 2.4.9 out of the box. |
| 04:19.41 | Parthiban | ok then what would be the version that uses kernel without red black tree memory map? and pls suggest me also how to download the same!!! |
| 04:19.42 | tux0 | Parthiban it's not correct or incorrect most likely at least one way to accomplish what you want is to download that release, install it and then compile the 2.4.9 kernel and install |
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| 04:20.23 | yoshio | Parthiban, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian -- see the "kernels" section - no release shipped with 2.4.9 |
| 04:20.38 | tux0 | for the least amount of hassle you will probably want to get a debian release that was released around the time the 2.4.9 kernel was released and it seems woody is close |
| 04:20.42 | deconvolution | he can manually install one |
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| 04:21.38 | Parthiban | @tux0: but for the compilation of 2.4.9 it requires someother version of gcc....i could not get a clear procedure to install the same...i tried!! |
| 04:22.16 | tux0 | Parthiban most likely woody will contain the gcc version you need |
| 04:22.25 | deconvolution | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/project/build/ |
| 04:22.27 | tux0 | since it was released around the same time that kernel was |
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| 04:26.22 | tonytraductor | I registered on Alioth, and I received a confirmation e-mail, but, then when I try to log in, it says "error, could not get user" or "user dpesm |
| 04:26.26 | tonytraductor | use doesn't exit |
| 04:26.36 | tonytraductor | but if I try to register again, it says my username is taken |
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| 04:27.10 | tonytraductor | dpkg alioth |
| 04:27.11 | dpkg | alioth is, like, http://alioth.debian.org/, Debian's sourceforge server. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200303/msg00024.html, or irc://irc.oftc.net/#alioth |
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| 04:28.09 | hgfjhdjgf | dpkg freebsd |
| 04:28.10 | dpkg | i guess freebsd is NOT better than Debian, and it is not worse. It is just different. Admittedly one might be more interested in using FreeBSD as a server OS rather than as a desktop workstation. http://www.freebsd.org/ ##freebsd on irc.freenode.net. For the Debian port, ask me about <kfreebsd>. |
| 04:28.22 | hgfjhdjgf | not true |
| 04:28.33 | hgfjhdjgf | dpkg plan9 |
| 04:28.33 | dpkg | methinks plan9 is at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/, written by the creators of Unix and C, a highly distributed OS, filesystem layout resembles Unix somewhat. Very mouse intensive. Now under a mostly free license. |
| 04:29.03 | hgfjhdjgf | dpkg knetbsd |
| 04:29.03 | dpkg | hgfjhdjgf: i don't know |
| 04:29.14 | tonytraductor | dpkg kfreebsd |
| 04:29.15 | dpkg | Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular Debian package set. kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 were released as a "technology preview" for Squeeze, ask me about <install guide>. http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/doc/ http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_FAQ #debian-kbsd on irc.oftc.net. |
| 04:29.43 | tonytraductor | I should try that out....I have an extra hdd, and was thinking of install Arch on it, but maybe I should try the kfreebsd |
| 04:29.44 | hgfjhdjgf | dpkg Why is UFS2 or FFS2 nit used with the Linux kernel? |
| 04:29.45 | dpkg | hgfjhdjgf: what are you talking about? |
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| 04:30.44 | hgfjhdjgf | dpkg FFS2 |
| 04:30.44 | dpkg | hgfjhdjgf: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 04:30.53 | tonytraductor | ha! |
| 04:31.07 | hgfjhdjgf | dpkg Why use negative language? |
| 04:31.09 | dpkg | hgfjhdjgf: bugger all, i dunno |
| 04:31.33 | hgfjhdjgf | The bot has the right to curse but not real people? |
| 04:31.53 | hgfjhdjgf | dpkg: what does rtfm mean? |
| 04:31.54 | dpkg | hgfjhdjgf: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 04:32.01 | yoshio | !tell hgfjhdjgf about factoids |
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| 04:32.52 | hgfjhdjgf | dpkg?: bye |
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| 04:37.48 | joulez | hello, where can i find the authenticated keys for debian testing? |
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| 04:41.04 | tonytraductor | I never used testing. |
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| 04:42.38 | Arrowmaster | joulez: debian-archive-keyring package i think |
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| 04:45.01 | joulez | ok thanks. |
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| 04:47.17 | tonytraductor | I guess I wasn't much help, but I couldn't stand the silence. |
| 04:47.55 | joulez | I get this error --> W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA |
| 04:48.30 | tonytraductor | I think you have to apt-get the keys |
| 04:48.40 | tonytraductor | or aptitude install them |
| 04:48.54 | joulez | how do i do that? |
| 04:49.14 | jmarsden | joulez: Something like sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys AED4B06F473041FA # should get that one for you |
| 04:49.19 | tonytraductor | look at this: http://wiki.zoyx.org/index.php/Apt-get_add_key_(debian) |
| 04:49.48 | craigevil | aptitude install debian-archive-keyring |
| 04:50.15 | joulez | i don't have aptitude |
| 04:51.23 | joulez | ok upgrading thanks. |
| 04:51.58 | tonytraductor | is there a specific channel for a) l10n, and b) the debian wiki? |
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| 04:52.14 | tonytraductor | doh, wrong channel |
| 04:52.28 | tonytraductor | ah, no, right channel |
| 04:52.45 | tonytraductor | there are some pages on the wiki in French, only, and I could translate them to English |
| 04:52.59 | tonytraductor | (that's what I do, professionally, translate FR, ES and PT to EN) |
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| 04:59.29 | owen1__ | i am installing netinst usb on thinkpad x61 and get a message about missing wireless firmwae - iwlwifi-3945. googling found this - http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download |
| 04:59.33 | owen1__ | what am i suppose to do with this file? |
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| 05:01.17 | owen1__ | can i continue the install without the wireless, and later on install this deb file? |
| 05:01.28 | un214 | yes |
| 05:01.34 | craigevil | owen1, stick it on a usb flash drive, or yes continue without wireless |
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| 05:02.12 | owen1__ | craigevil: and when i am done, install with 'dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi_0.28_all.deb' ? |
| 05:02.50 | craigevil | if you have a wired connection you can use aptitude, but yes dpkg works |
| 05:03.22 | owen1__ | craigevil: oh. so i can 'aptitude install firmware-bla blabla'? sweet. thanks! |
| 05:04.25 | owen1__ | now it's asking to choose the primary network interface. eth0 or wlan0. |
| 05:04.57 | craigevil | etho should be the wired interface |
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| 05:05.17 | owen1__ | craigevil: yes. but which one should be the primary? |
| 05:05.30 | mtx_init | Does anybody also experience volume not being persistent in rhythmbox? |
| 05:05.39 | owen1__ | not sure what primary means, in this context |
| 05:05.46 | craigevil | owen1, its just asking for install purposes |
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| 05:06.13 | owen1__ | most of the time i'll be using the wireless, but now i'll use the wired untill i'll install the wireless deb. |
| 05:06.42 | owen1__ | craigevil: so it doesn't matter which one i chose? just go for the eth0? |
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| 05:06.51 | craigevil | doesnt matter |
| 05:06.55 | owen1__ | ok. thank |
| 05:06.56 | owen1__ | s |
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| 05:08.12 | emerson | hello how do I fix my apt-get instal... |
| 05:08.21 | emerson | is broken... |
| 05:09.15 | owen1__ | craigevil: i can't configure the wireless since i don't have the package, i'll skip it for now. |
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| 05:09.45 | craigevil | if you put it on a flash drive the installer will detect it and install it |
| 05:09.59 | owen1__ | craigevil: on another flash? |
| 05:11.18 | craigevil | your installing from a flash drive? i would think it will detect another one but not 100% positive, wont hurt to just install it when your finished |
| 05:11.20 | owen1__ | craigevil: i already continued. i just hope that the firmware-iwlwifi package will be easy to use. |
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| 05:11.31 | owen1__ | ok. thanks! |
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| 05:12.14 | craigevil | i installed on this ancient R40 back in february but i used a cd, and put the wireless firmware on a flash drive |
| 05:12.48 | emerson | how can a fix the apt- get ..., please.... |
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| 05:13.43 | craigevil | emerson, how is it broken? |
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| 05:16.51 | emerson | craigevil: so when I can install any software... |
| 05:17.17 | emerson | craigevil: I mean I can't install any software... |
| 05:17.27 | tonytraductor | what's the matter with your apt? |
| 05:18.06 | craigevil | emerson, pastebin the error messages you are geting |
| 05:18.23 | emerson | tonytraductor: I'm trying to run the update maneger, and is completly fronzen... |
| 05:20.09 | owen1__ | i just installed debian 6 on a laptop. i try to install some packages with aptitude but it ask for the netinst cd. should i instert it or do i need to add some stuff to sources.list? |
| 05:20.14 | tonytraductor | probably something in your apt/source.list is wrong, or something, but, do as craigevil suggest, and pastebin whatever errors it gives |
| 05:20.40 | tonytraductor | well, if it wants the cd, inserting it can do no harm |
| 05:21.03 | tonytraductor | when you install with that disc, it doesn't add repos to your sources.list |
| 05:21.06 | tonytraductor | iirc |
| 05:21.16 | craigevil | owen1, if it couldnt connect to net during install the only thing in your sources.list is the cd |
| 05:21.17 | owen1__ | tonytraductor: it's actually a usb drive. ok. i'll try it. i also see in sources this line: |
| 05:21.29 | owen1__ | deb cdrom:bla bla bla |
| 05:21.31 | tonytraductor | you can either edit the /etc/apt/source.list by hand, or if that is intimidating, you can actually add the repos with synaptic |
| 05:21.39 | emerson | craigevil: sorry but what's the url for the pastbin ? |
| 05:21.45 | craigevil | !paste |
| 05:21.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 05:22.58 | owen1__ | craigevil: so is it my situation? |
| 05:23.05 | emerson | craigevil: http://paste.debian.net/112044/ |
| 05:23.05 | craigevil | owen1, take a look at http://sites.google.com/site/mydebiansourceslist/Home |
| 05:23.17 | craigevil | yes sounds like you just need to add some repos |
| 05:23.26 | yoshio | !tell owen1 about iwlwifi |
| 05:23.38 | owen1__ | craigevil: btw, when i ping google.com i see unknown host |
| 05:24.01 | owen1__ | i have a wired cable connected to my laptop. |
| 05:24.12 | craigevil | emerson, apt-get isnt going to work if update-manager or any other package manager is open |
| 05:24.12 | owen1__ | and i see blinking light there |
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| 05:25.20 | emerson | craigevil: but the update-manager is frozen ... |
| 05:26.41 | craigevil | owen1, check /etc/resolv.conf and make sure it has your nameservers |
| 05:26.58 | craigevil | emerson, so kill it |
| 05:27.00 | owen1__ | craigevil: ok |
| 05:27.31 | owen1__ | craigevil: i don't have this file |
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| 05:28.13 | yoshio | owen1, do a "/sbin/ifconfig" - is eth0 up? if not, do "sudo ifup eth0" (assuming you configured for dhcp) |
| 05:28.23 | emerson | craigevil: it's says that I have 661 updates ...so but how shall I kill it ? I have to type pkill what ? |
| 05:29.19 | owen1__ | yoshio: no. i only se lo. during the installation i skipped the wireless and assume that i should at least have wired connection. |
| 05:30.11 | owen1__ | i hade a cable connected during the install. not sure what to do. maybe try to put the deb file of my wireless firmware on a usb and install with dpkg? |
| 05:30.28 | tonytraductor | what is this laptop? |
| 05:30.38 | owen1__ | tonytraductor: thinkpad x61 |
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| 05:31.46 | yoshio | owen1, do "/sbin/ifconfig -a", eth0 should appear. do "sudo ifup eth0" (or sudo ifconfig eth0 up). then do sudo dhclient eth0 |
| 05:31.56 | emerson | craigevil:how shall I kill the process...? |
| 05:32.08 | tonytraductor | weird. I had an a21m thinkpad with a pcmcia external wifi card, and getting wifi up was practically automatic. |
| 05:32.20 | tonytraductor | that machine finally bought the farm, though. |
| 05:32.40 | tonytraductor | now I have a del d420 latitude, but it has peppermint os on it, currently |
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| 05:33.06 | tonytraductor | all my desktops are debian/squeeze, as is my webserver |
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| 05:33.22 | craigevil | emerson, as root killall update-manager |
| 05:33.55 | owen1__ | yoshio: the first command told me: 'ignoring knknown interface eth0=eth0 |
| 05:34.06 | owen1__ | yoshio: the second didn't say anything. |
| 05:34.16 | owen1__ | (ping to google still not working) |
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| 05:37.33 | yoshio | owen1, when you do /sbin/ifconfig -a, does eth0 have an IP address? |
| 05:39.28 | owen1__ | yoshio: i see inet6 addr: fe80::21d::blablablabla but not an ip |
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| 05:45.21 | yoshio | owen1, are you using dhcp? |
| 05:45.33 | yoshio | !tell owen1 about dhclient |
| 05:45.54 | owen1__ | yoshio: i don't know |
| 05:47.02 | yoshio | owen1, are you connecting your laptop to a router? it probably does dhcp then (meaning the router should assign an IP address to a device) |
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| 05:47.39 | owen1__ | i am connected via a cable to a router. i can connect directly to the modem if that's what u mean? |
| 05:48.00 | yoshio | owen1, do you see a link light on the router and the computer? router is fine. |
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| 05:48.30 | owen1__ | yeah. i see light on both ends. |
| 05:50.16 | yoshio | owen1, in your /etc/network/interfaces file, make sure you have the lines "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp", then type "sudo dhclient eth0" |
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| 05:50.56 | yoshio | type "man interfaces" to see what's allowed in that file |
| 05:51.15 | owen1__ | i see 2 lines there. auto lo and iface lo inte loopback. should i add the 2 lines u mentioned below it? |
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| 05:51.37 | yoshio | anywhere in the file |
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| 05:52.51 | AndrewX192 | Has anyone successfully got XEN and network-nat working on debian 6.0? It seems badly broken |
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| 05:54.40 | owen1__ | yoshio: when i type dhclient (i don't have sudo since i can't install sudo, or anything yet) i get: /etc/resolv.conf - no such file |
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| 05:55.28 | yoshio | !resolv.conf |
| 05:55.29 | dpkg | [resolv.conf] /etc/resolv.conf, resolver configuration file that contains your nameserver IPs. It's written by your DHCP client. To use different nameservers than those provided by DHCP, ask me about <override dns>. See also <fixresolvconf>. |
| 05:55.47 | yoshio | !fixresolvconf |
| 05:55.47 | dpkg | To fix your /etc/resolv.conf: edit /etc/dhcp{,3}/dhclient.conf to include the nameservers you want to use (ask me about <override dns>). Alternatively, use <resolvconf> and specify the nameservers yourself: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base; resolvconf -u (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). Also ask me about <fixresolvconf the ugly way>. |
| 05:56.10 | yoshio | !fixresolvconf the ugly wa |
| 05:56.13 | craigevil | owen1, open nano as root and edit /etc/network/interfaces and add the lines yoshio mentioned |
| 05:56.13 | yoshio | !fixresolvconf the ugly way |
| 05:56.13 | dpkg | If you can't be bothered configuring either <resolvconf> or your DHCP client to properly handle your DNS settings, then you can do this: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolv.conf && chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). But realise that this is a truly ugly hack. |
| 05:58.17 | yoshio | hey, when you do dhclient, it's supposed to update the file for you (assuming you got an IP address) |
| 05:58.19 | owen1__ | craigevil: yoshio when i cat resolv.conf i see: 192.168.1.1 which is my router firmware url. |
| 05:58.40 | owen1__ | the one i go to configure my router. is this the nameserver? |
| 05:59.05 | yoshio | do /sbin/ifconfig, does eth0 have an IP now? |
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| 05:59.19 | owen1__ | 1 sec |
| 05:59.43 | owen1__ | yoshio: craigevil yes! i can ping now!! thanks guys |
| 05:59.46 | yoshio | yes, the router can do dns forwarding |
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| 06:01.23 | owen1__ | so what exactyl happend here? we added 2 lines to interface file and run the dhclient...can someone explain in simple words? |
| 06:01.25 | yoshio | i think you have to add non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then you can aptitude install firmware-iwlwifi (after doing aptitude update) |
| 06:01.44 | owen1__ | yoshio: great. let me try that |
| 06:02.33 | owen1__ | first thing i want to install sudo but it ask me for the netinst cd.. |
| 06:03.02 | craigevil | you need to add the main repo |
| 06:03.34 | yoshio | /etc/network/interfaces describes network interfaces, auto eth0 means start when ifup -a is executed by system boot scripts. we want dhcp for eth0 (rather than a static ip address), dhclient asks a dhcp server for an address |
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| 06:04.26 | yoshio | owen1, edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:04.53 | owen1__ | ok. googling for the main repo for debian |
| 06:04.56 | craigevil | comment the cd, and add a repo from http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 06:06.50 | yoshio | !tell owen1__ about sources.list |
| 06:06.52 | Sw33NY | how can i stop rebuild array of mdadm ? |
| 06:07.11 | bookmark | does anyone know some package to configure xorg to another resolution? |
| 06:07.58 | owen1__ | is my line ok? deb ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ |
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| 06:08.33 | yoshio | bookmark: in gnome, go to System->Preferences->System Settings |
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| 06:08.47 | bookmark | sheesh maybe i should install gnome |
| 06:09.19 | yoshio | Display under Computer |
| 06:09.27 | craigevil | bookmark, xrandr |
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| 06:10.08 | yoshio | owen1__: mine looks like deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib |
| 06:10.27 | yoshio | and if you want the wireless, you need non-free at the end (after contrib) |
| 06:10.44 | yoshio | are you using Squeeze? |
| 06:10.45 | bookmark | craigevil: how do i use xrandr? |
| 06:10.53 | owen1__ | yoshio: yeah |
| 06:11.16 | bookmark | does it show mode lines? |
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| 06:11.29 | yoshio | be sure to add deb http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates main contrib (you want security updates) |
| 06:12.12 | yoshio | then do "aptitude update", then "aptitude install sudo" or whatever package you want |
| 06:13.38 | owen1__ | yoshio:so total of 3 lines - main, main non-free and security? |
| 06:14.47 | yoshio | no, security is one line (has main contrib non-free) and the ftp.us one has squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 06:15.01 | yoshio | two lines |
| 06:15.18 | danilo | is it a problem to play matroska file in squeeze? i've tried vlc, mplayer, rhytmbox and noone works |
| 06:15.18 | owen1__ | ok. updating |
| 06:15.37 | Miesco | danilo: mplayer! |
| 06:16.15 | owen1__ | yoshio: 11 updates [+6], 28209 new |
| 06:16.26 | bookmark | i hate when something works and they break it |
| 06:16.27 | owen1__ | do i need aptitude upgrade? |
| 06:16.28 | bookmark | hehe |
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| 06:17.00 | yoshio | aptitude safe-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade (add "-V" at the end to see version numbers) |
| 06:17.15 | Miesco | danilo: aptitude install libmatroska3 |
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| 06:17.59 | Goonhost | Test |
| 06:18.09 | Miesco | sucess! |
| 06:18.10 | owen1__ | yoshio: nice. it tells me about firmware-linux-free as recommended. do i need that? |
| 06:18.28 | yoshio | aptitude show firmware-linux-free |
| 06:18.31 | danilo | Miesco, are you sure is in squeeze? i cannot find it and i have multimedia rep on my sources.list |
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| 06:18.46 | yoshio | ,versions libmatroska3 |
| 06:18.48 | judd | Package libmatroska3 on i386 -- sid: 1.1.0-2; wheezy: 1.1.0-2 |
| 06:18.56 | Miesco | danilo: no im not sure, try aptitude search matroska |
| 06:19.03 | Miesco | !matroska |
| 06:19.37 | danilo | libmastroska0 that is just installed |
| 06:19.49 | Miesco | good container, supports subtitles, unlike other shitty contains... (avi) |
| 06:20.09 | Goonhost | Hello |
| 06:20.22 | Miesco | danilo: Whats the output from mplayer? |
| 06:20.24 | danilo | or libmkv0 - An alternitave to the official libmatroska/libebml libraries <- that it is not installed |
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| 06:21.46 | owen1__ | yoshio: i read the info about the package but i have no idea if i should install it (-: |
| 06:22.33 | yoshio | ,versions libmkv0 |
| 06:22.33 | judd | Package libmkv0 on i386 -- sid-multimedia: 0.6.4.1-0.0; squeeze-multimedia: 0.6.4.1-0.0; wheezy-multimedia: 0.6.4.1-0.0 |
| 06:24.41 | yoshio | owen1__: usually you can search http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/lenovo.html or http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_X61s , they will show workarounds. you probably don't need it. |
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| 06:27.36 | owen1__ | yoshio: sounds good |
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| 06:31.07 | yoshio | owen1__: if you install the "apt-file" package, you can type "apt-file update" then type "apt-file list firmware-linux-free", and it will tell you what files are in the package |
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| 06:31.48 | yoshio | it's useful if you are looking for a executable file or library, but don't know the package name that has that file |
| 06:32.36 | AndrewX192 | Has anyone successfully got XEN and network-nat working on debian 6.0? It seems badly broken. |
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| 06:33.28 | yoshio | apt-file find whois (finds every file with the string "whois" in it, and tells you what package it's from) |
| 06:35.29 | owen1__ | yoshio: ok. searching for firmware-iwlwifi.. |
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| 06:36.24 | owen1__ | aptitude search firmware- don't show me anything with iwlwifi. i see b43 and other stuff |
| 06:37.02 | yoshio | owen1__: you need to add 'non-free' to your sources.list |
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| 06:37.20 | yoshio | b43 is for broadcom 43xx wireless |
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| 06:38.13 | yoshio | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib (add non-free at the end, and also add it to the security line) |
| 06:38.20 | yoshio | then do aptitude update |
| 06:40.25 | gurulli | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:41.39 | owen1__ | yoshio: done. installed the wifi firmware. how do i test the wireless? install wicd-curses? |
| 06:43.41 | AndrewX192 | Will debian lenny be supported past a year from now? I am considering trashing squeeze as is it incredibly buggy. |
| 06:43.58 | yoshio | owen1__: there must be a gui way of doing it (network-manager does it in the gui), but I just put into /etc/network/interfaces the following 3 lines: |
| 06:44.20 | streuner_ | AndrewX192: usually 1 year after release, yes. |
| 06:44.52 | yoshio | iface eth1 inet dhcp (line 2) wireless_mode managed (line 3) wireless_essid any (replace any with your ap name) |
| 06:45.03 | AndrewX192 | streuner_: Is debian moving away from supporting XEN? the bugs in sqeeze are simply awful. |
| 06:46.56 | owen1__ | yoshio: keep the other 2 lines i have there for the dhcp, right? |
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| 06:48.22 | yoshio | !tell owen1__ about wireless |
| 06:48.54 | Aiya | !tell Aiya usage |
| 06:49.01 | yoshio | owen1__: yes, keep eth0 there, you can also make eth0 have a static address |
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| 06:50.04 | yoshio | (line 1) iface eth0 inet static (line 2) address 192.168.1.111 (line 3) netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 06:50.33 | CompWizrd | using a liquorix kernel with stable i've gotten the intel hd graphics to at least start.. glxinfo crashes with an error, but at least I've got smething |
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| 06:52.57 | owen1__ | yoshio: ok. now i need to run 'dhclient eth1' ? |
| 06:53.12 | owen1__ | btw, where do i type the password |
| 06:54.54 | yoshio | owen1__: yes |
| 06:55.59 | yoshio | for WEP (don't use WEP, it has weak security), add the lines wireless-keymode restricted and wireless-key YourHexKey , don't know about wpa |
| 06:56.26 | yoshio | !tell owen1__ about wpa |
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| 06:57.54 | AndrewX192 | Has anyone found a solution for this issue? http://serverfault.com/questions/249670/fresh-debian-squeeze-6-installation-very-high-ram-usage |
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| 06:59.27 | owen1__ | yoshio: i think i'll install wicd-ncurses, and after i'll set up my wireless, i'll learn how to do that from the console. it's a bit over my head i think. |
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| 07:00.25 | RainbowW | is there a way to introduce a random delay of between X and Y seconds into a shell script? |
| 07:00.41 | yoshio | !tell owen1__ about wicd |
| 07:01.53 | sakitram | Hi, I have a corrupted harddisk. I want to recover some data from it. Yesterday I searched Google a lot and tried all the steps with fsck*, but still I could not mount the partition. |
| 07:02.02 | sakitram | please somebody help |
| 07:02.37 | RainbowW | sakitram, when developing a question of this type, it is helpful to follow the steps in an excellent guide about asking questions, by ESR. to find it, google "how to ask smart questions" and hit "i'm feeling lucky" |
| 07:03.21 | yoshio | !tell owen1__ about network-manager |
| 07:03.25 | yoshio | !tell owen1__ about nm squeeze |
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| 07:05.28 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, what kernel are you running, if 2.6.32 .. 2.6.34, there is known issue with mem gap consumation, i use 2.6.38 where it has been patched, if this is a xen kernel you can get it back to 512mb for xen, by issuing a k-commandline for xend; |
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| 07:06.47 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: 2.6.32 |
| 07:07.21 | Levi | Has anyone seen "Inside Job" ? holy shite thats some serious bs, makes you want to go out and take care of some traders |
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| 07:08.05 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I'm not seeing any backports for squeeze either |
| 07:08.23 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, true |
| 07:08.28 | sakitram | Hi, there is a problem with my corrupted hard disk. when I mount it, I always get an error message "EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock" and along with it some more lines |
| 07:08.46 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, are you running xen on that box are just a normal x86_64? |
| 07:08.50 | sakitram | if anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated.. |
| 07:08.53 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: XEN |
| 07:09.16 | owen1__ | yoshio: thanks for all those links. installing wicd |
| 07:09.22 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I haven't really gotten XEN to work though, there are a number of other blocking bugs keeping it from working properly. |
| 07:09.54 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, look at the kernel boot commandline options for xen; set that to 512mb |
| 07:10.01 | dutchfish | s. |
| 07:10.06 | dutchfish | s/xen/xend |
| 07:10.40 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: domo0 memory limit? |
| 07:10.58 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I wonder if I can get that memory hole on a swap file |
| 07:11.48 | sakitram | here is the complete error message posted in this link - http://pastebin.com/psZhhYHH |
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| 07:11.57 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, it depend a lot ofr your hardware if that will work nicely, yes, dom0 mem limit for xend, and i have also exp that on one box, tweaking the adapters to contegious memory helps |
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| 07:13.06 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, look on the xen website for that you should not use hda for xen 4.0; known issue |
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| 07:13.45 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, you must use theportmapper stansas |
| 07:15.14 | Edgardo | I've been using debian for a wile, and I've noticed that an important number of scripts in /usr/bin are written in perl... |
| 07:15.32 | Edgardo | there's no awk implementation for those scripts? |
| 07:15.46 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: this http://wiki.xen.org/xenwiki/XenCommonProblems#head-a243050da64d6a60784e43074fadeac4e0fa32eb? |
| 07:16.15 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: what is "theportmapper stansas"? |
| 07:16.55 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, xvda instead of hda as an example |
| 07:17.14 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I am. |
| 07:17.20 | dutchfish | ok |
| 07:17.37 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: http://pastebin.com/dGk4BWXR |
| 07:18.22 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, that look sfine |
| 07:18.31 | AndrewX192 | (which leads to things like CentOS 5.5 sitting for 3+ hours at "mounting /sys filesystem... done") |
| 07:18.40 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, is that vm from a former lenny install by accident? |
| 07:18.55 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: no, it is not |
| 07:19.07 | AndrewX192 | I can't even install a guest DomU |
| 07:19.30 | AndrewX192 | network-nat is broken, and /sys is not working |
| 07:19.49 | dutchfish | mmm... srange i had none of those problems |
| 07:20.15 | AndrewX192 | I dealt with these issues when I used lenny too |
| 07:20.27 | AndrewX192 | But I backported XEN and such, and no longer update that server |
| 07:20.34 | dutchfish | i asume you have correctly setup the bridge script |
| 07:20.42 | AndrewX192 | I am not using the bridge script |
| 07:20.53 | AndrewX192 | Those cost me almost 40 hours last time I tried to fix them |
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| 07:21.03 | AndrewX192 | All my network briding is done in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:21.41 | yoshio | sakitram, does dmesg | tail show I/O errors? |
| 07:21.57 | sakitram | yes, I get the same error message that I pasted in the pastebin |
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| 07:24.28 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: any ideas? |
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| 07:27.04 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, do you have any 4gb seg fixup messages in your syslog? |
| 07:27.47 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: no |
| 07:28.05 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: should I just downgrade to debian lenny? |
| 07:28.21 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, and using libc6-xen from squeeze, right? |
| 07:28.23 | yoshio | sakitram, no, type "dmesg |tail" do you see I/O errors? |
| 07:28.27 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I just crashed Dom0 by restarting xend again |
| 07:28.51 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: will check once dom0 reboots |
| 07:29.14 | yoshio | sakitram, see the man page for mke2fs -- look at the -n option, it looks like you can get superblock numbers that way - see the file /etc/mke2fs.conf |
| 07:29.33 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, i am beginning to think this: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenFaq#head-e05786f1e0d6a833bc146a6096cab2d96f2b30ae |
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| 07:30.22 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I still can't figure out why the debian xen-utils package is broken, or why centos hangs after mounting /sys in DomU |
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| 07:31.04 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: libc6-xen does not exist |
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| 07:31.45 | yoshio | sakitram, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/miscellaneous/35926-cannot-boot-up-linux-unable-read-superblock.html |
| 07:32.21 | tehrabbitt | question, I'm running kde on 'testing' and there's a program I had found as a GUI for burning CD's but it looks like it needs GTK for it to work. do I need to install gnome or is there an easier way? |
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| 07:32.30 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libc6-xen |
| 07:32.39 | tehrabbitt | "*** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found" |
| 07:33.01 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: this is a 64bit install. |
| 07:33.14 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, ah ok |
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| 07:34.01 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: what do you think about me downgrading to lenny instead of dealing with this? |
| 07:34.07 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I am going way over estimated hours. |
| 07:34.59 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, well, in any case i would advice you to indeed go back to lenny and test the stuff out in squeeeze before you try it again. |
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| 07:35.24 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I don't have a dedicated box for testing things like XEN |
| 07:35.53 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, but maybe other have, so document it well what you have found |
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| 07:36.02 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: in any case, If I use lenny, I will be probably be running lenny 3-4 years from now, so far past EOL |
| 07:36.43 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, well lenny is old-stable now, so prolly tops 1 year or so |
| 07:36.46 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: It took 60 hours to fix the bugs with XEN in debian lenny |
| 07:37.02 | tehrabbitt | anyone here have any experiance with KDE / GTK? |
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| 07:38.00 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, i don't get it, runned xen on etch and lenny and never had those problems |
| 07:38.23 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I spent most of that time dealing with vif and network scripts that were faulty |
| 07:38.25 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, but hvm is quiet new |
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| 07:38.53 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: and file:/ was broken at the time |
| 07:38.59 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, well, not so much faulty but default |
| 07:39.11 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, xen = patience |
| 07:39.28 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: ##xen told me that the scripts were depreciated and that it was better to define them in my OS network level |
| 07:39.46 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, around when? |
| 07:40.06 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: July last year, the last time that my other server was messed with |
| 07:40.23 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, very strange |
| 07:41.05 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I touched the server in January 2011, and restarted a network card, which instantly broke xend and the network-nat script, took 4 hours to resolve. |
| 07:41.12 | tehrabbitt | anyone here know any good GUI cd burning software for KDE? |
| 07:41.17 | AndrewX192 | tehrabbitt: k3b |
| 07:41.35 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, but i admit, those can be easely circumvented, but i dont know if thats the right thing to do in Debian xen |
| 07:41.45 | tehrabbitt | alright thanks |
| 07:41.51 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I have multiple NICs on different networks |
| 07:42.07 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, me too, and i use 2 bonds |
| 07:42.30 | AndrewX192 | One of the bridges does not work, so I have to use NAT as a work around |
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| 07:42.38 | dutchfish | arghh |
| 07:44.15 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, i use a separate localnet for the beackend in 2 bonds and 1 failover bond to the lan/wan, that works pretty well |
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| 07:45.34 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I'm not seeing the netinstall images for debian lenny anymore |
| 07:45.34 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, and that was in etc and lenny (etch was quircky) and i have a testbed in squeeze |
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| 07:46.12 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, are you sure this is not due to hardware? io disks or controller? |
| 07:46.47 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I have found bug reports for a number of these issues, and not that I know of |
| 07:46.54 | dutchfish | ok |
| 07:47.06 | AndrewX192 | xen-utils is missing some needed files |
| 07:47.14 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, is this a sata hw raid? |
| 07:47.16 | AndrewX192 | Supposedly fixed, but I cannot verify it |
| 07:47.22 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: yes, SATA raid |
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| 07:48.05 | owen1__ | my router is using WPA-PSK. is this passphrase or is it shared or Hex? |
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| 07:48.20 | owen1__ | (i need to chose it in wicd) |
| 07:48.31 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, i can not verefy that easely, because i am on SAS with hw raid |
| 07:49.08 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: well, I found a solution for the memory hole issue "buy another gig of ram" |
| 07:49.55 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, but for now go back to lenny, ping me again when you are done, i would like to solve this and make a testbed if you have the patience for it |
| 07:50.17 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: test lenny? |
| 07:50.20 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, in sata hw raid, i can get to it maybe in a few days |
| 07:50.36 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, no test squeeze on xen in sata raid |
| 07:50.58 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, but that doe snot help you know |
| 07:51.00 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I think at this point I just need backports. |
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| 07:51.13 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, maybe |
| 07:51.13 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: do you know of any XEN kernel backports yet? |
| 07:51.26 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: that would give me back 1+ GB of ram |
| 07:51.53 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: a xen-utils backport would get me networking |
| 07:52.05 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, now, thats the whole point, xen is in 2.6.38 so that would make it a whole lot easier, but thats not for a production envirenment i am afraid |
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| 07:53.04 | mha_ | PRO/Wireless 2200BG is not working in debian 6 |
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| 07:53.29 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, you mean a forward port??? |
| 07:53.38 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: my only worry with downgrading is that if I do downgrade, I will never be upgrading |
| 07:53.40 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, or from sid? |
| 07:53.49 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: debian-backports project |
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| 07:53.58 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, ah ok |
| 07:54.41 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: I need to create a few vms to replace a dedicated box, if the XEN box goes down, the entire network will go down |
| 07:54.47 | AndrewX192 | Including my way of asking questions/googling |
| 07:55.03 | dutchfish | ouch |
| 07:55.40 | AndrewX192 | I am replacing a aging pentium 4 with a VM on my other debian XEN box as soon as I get the new XEN box setup and start freeing stuff off the other XEN box |
| 07:56.12 | dutchfish | amke sure you backup your steps |
| 07:56.17 | dutchfish | s/amke/make |
| 07:56.40 | AndrewX192 | I won't phase out the p4 until everything has been tested |
| 07:56.47 | mha_ | PRO/Wireless 2200BG is not working in debian 6, how can I get it running? |
| 07:56.47 | dutchfish | ok |
| 07:56.53 | AndrewX192 | But once it is all up and running, I won't be upgrading for years. |
| 07:57.13 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, is that realistic? |
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| 07:57.29 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: it's unavoidable. |
| 07:57.39 | AndrewX192 | debian's release cycle is too quick |
| 07:57.50 | dutchfish | yep, for this true |
| 07:58.09 | danilo | hi, to mount hfsplus fs ind debian I have to disable journaling from mac on the disk, first? |
| 07:58.37 | AndrewX192 | dutchfish: this debian XEN box will run a bunch of long life CentOS DomU's |
| 07:58.40 | danilo | my prb is that i cannot mount an hfsplus disk in read/wirte mode |
| 08:00.15 | dutchfish | AndrewX192, lets take this to ##xen, and continue there |
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| 08:47.17 | erAbuelo | buenos dias |
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| 08:53.09 | gtklocker | Hi Debianos |
| 08:53.35 | gtklocker | I'm new here; wanted to ask a question: how can I install libreoffice on squeeze? |
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| 08:54.52 | tux0 | gtklocker: apt-get install <package_name> |
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| 08:55.27 | tux0 | gtklocker: check http://wiki.debian.org/ should explain how to install packages using the gui/command line |
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| 08:57.17 | cahoot | isn't it still Ooo on squeeze? |
| 08:58.20 | bzed | gtklocker: just install openoffice.org |
| 08:59.34 | erAbuelo | libreoffice is in testing, no ? |
| 08:59.56 | Leoneof | Oracle is awful recently. |
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