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| 00:25.51 | piercedwater | Does anyone know of a daemon like MPD, but for video for Debian? I found http://code.google.com/p/vpd/, but there doesnt seem the be an activity. |
| 00:26.58 | jordanm | piercedwater: vlc? |
| 00:27.38 | piercedwater | didnt think iof that |
| 00:28.57 | piercedwater | can vlc run cli and have web and phone ui's? |
| 00:29.50 | jordanm | can run from cli. not sure about the other two |
| 00:30.39 | piercedwater | k, ill google |
| 00:30.40 | piercedwater | thx |
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| 00:35.20 | tgies | trying to understand how cryptsetup gets called when my root filesystem is in an lvm vg on a pv that is dm-crypted |
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| 00:36.12 | tgies | linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/tg--perigon-root ro quiet |
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| 00:36.34 | tgies | i assume that lvm "knows" that it has to call cryptsetup to get at that volume? |
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| 00:36.41 | tgies | how does that work exactly |
| 00:37.39 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | what package do i need to install to make rhythmbox play mp3 files? |
| 00:39.02 | tgies | sh4d3sl4y3r_: lenny, squeeze? |
| 00:39.07 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | squeeze |
| 00:39.16 | tgies | i believe gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly |
| 00:39.44 | tgies | yep that's the one |
| 00:39.53 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | have it installed but it shows "Not Playing" in Rhythmbox :S |
| 00:40.10 | tgies | interesting |
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| 00:41.15 | tgies | are you able to play other things in rhythmbox |
| 00:41.35 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | tgies, let me check. got no ogg. let me try the radio |
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| 00:42.52 | un214 | what is the harm in making /usr/bin/traceroute.db suid-root |
| 00:42.57 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | tgies, not playing |
| 00:43.27 | tgies | sh4d3sl4y3r_: try running rhythmbox from a terminal and see what errors you get on the terminal |
| 00:43.40 | tgies | i feel like i've run into this before and it was some dbus issue |
| 00:44.05 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | "jack server is not running or cannot be started |
| 00:44.06 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | " |
| 00:44.16 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | tgies, what can that be? |
| 00:44.55 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | tgies, even for some reason totem is not showing the volume key. i am using lxde. do i need to install jackaudio or something? |
| 00:45.18 | tgies | it looks like you have things set up to use jack for audio output but jack is not running |
| 00:45.29 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | how do i change it? |
| 00:45.39 | tgies | either configure them not to use jack or set up jack correctly |
| 00:45.44 | tgies | um, good question |
| 00:45.57 | tgies | i know there's a system-wide preference for itt |
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| 00:53.54 | flypp | I don't think Rhythmbox has jack support |
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| 00:54.14 | KBme | hi |
| 00:54.34 | KBme | anyone know how to use pontopoint networking? |
| 00:54.37 | KBme | i'm not sure about the name |
| 00:55.09 | KBme | this sort of configuration: http://dpaste.com/526171/ |
| 00:55.19 | KBme | this exact config works in etch, not in squeeze |
| 00:55.42 | KBme | i wasn't able to find documentation about the /etc/network/interfaces file for some reason |
| 00:56.46 | beardy | If it was working, etch was way too forgiving. |
| 00:56.58 | beardy | !interfaces |
| 00:56.58 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
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| 00:57.20 | KBme | thanks |
| 00:57.55 | KBme | beardy: that's a wrong configuration? |
| 00:58.14 | KBme | all i really need to do is ip addr add dev eth0 myip peer otherip |
| 00:58.21 | KBme | and ip route add default otherip |
| 00:58.28 | beardy | KBme: Yes, it is. |
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| 00:59.14 | beardy | KBme: From where have you got the idea of "peer"? |
| 00:59.39 | KBme | from the ip command documentation |
| 00:59.56 | beardy | KBme: Anyway, remove that "peer" line, add "gateway 10.11.8.1" |
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| 01:00.53 | KBme | beardy: i can't |
| 01:00.59 | KBme | that address doesn't exist |
| 01:01.07 | wissem | hi all |
| 01:01.09 | KBme | if you don't add the peer line |
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| 01:01.28 | wissem | do you a good video editing software |
| 01:01.40 | wissem | just to cut a clip from a movie |
| 01:01.44 | wissem | any ideas ? |
| 01:02.20 | KBme | beardy: those two ip commands are all i need to get the network working |
| 01:02.38 | KBme | on the other side i do almost the same the other way around |
| 01:02.52 | KBme | (this is for lxc virtualization) |
| 01:02.56 | beardy | KBme: Then let's back up. What kind of an interface are you configuring? And what kind of cable sits between it and the other side? |
| 01:03.19 | KBme | sorry yes i should've added that, it's the veth network type |
| 01:03.22 | KBme | with lxc |
| 01:03.43 | KBme | and everything is on the same host machine, it's almost like a tun/tap, and i don't even really know the difference |
| 01:03.55 | KBme | it basically works the same from the networking point of view, imho |
| 01:04.33 | KBme | beardy: this is the exact way i got routed networking working in lxc: http://j.9souldier.org/trunk/lxc/ |
| 01:04.49 | KBme | these are the steps i have to go through to have the network up. |
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| 01:05.00 | Wulf | good morning |
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| 01:06.07 | beardy | KBme: Ok. Check 'man 5 interfaces', look for, and use "pointopoint address" |
| 01:06.37 | Wulf | I've got a system running squeeze and I created a custom init.d script, /etc/init.d/something. I enabled it using "insserv something" and a link "/etc/rcS.d/S01something" was created. But when I boot the machine, the script is not run. What might be wrong? |
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| 01:08.06 | jmarsden | Wulf: /etc/init.d/something might not have appropriate permissions, or might have a bad #! line at the top of it. |
| 01:08.20 | KBme | beardy: yeah, that's what i was really looking for, thanks |
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| 01:09.30 | Wulf | http://ideone.com/p4h7u -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 811156 10. Apr 2010 /bin/bash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 368 28. Mär 03:02 /etc/init.d/something lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 28. Mär 02:56 /etc/rcS.d/S01something -> ../init.d/something |
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| 01:11.11 | KBme | beardy: http://dpaste.com/526172/ this is what I have |
| 01:11.16 | KBme | but it's not working |
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| 01:11.40 | KBme | Configuring network interfaces...$hostaddr/32: Host name lookup failure |
| 01:11.47 | KBme | ($hostaddr is my global ip) |
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| 01:12.30 | Wulf | jmarsden: got any idea? |
| 01:12.40 | KBme | can i just do post-up ip addr add ... ? |
| 01:12.44 | KBme | i think i'll just do that |
| 01:13.46 | jmarsden | Wulf: Not really. Check that the first line of something is #!/bin/bash |
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| 01:15.00 | jmarsden | Wulf: Also if you type /etc/rcS.d/S01something in a root shell, does it run OK that way? |
| 01:15.43 | KBme | is there a null-up configuration? |
| 01:15.51 | Wulf | jmarsden: yes, first line is correct and script works if I run it manually |
| 01:16.26 | jmarsden | Wulf: OK. And it has all the INIT INFO comment header stuff, as described in man insserv ? |
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| 01:17.34 | Wulf | jmarsden: did you see the paste? http://ideone.com/p4h7u |
| 01:19.41 | jmarsden | Wulf: Looks reasonable to me. |
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| 01:32.18 | Escherial | hey, any of you have suggestions for a nice apache log analyzer that's easy to set up? i'm trying to get awstats working, but i'm not really liking it so far |
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| 01:33.29 | karlpinc | Wulf: You could also syntax check it with "dash -n /etc/rcS.d/S01something" and then run it with #!/bin/sh instead of bash. |
| 01:34.36 | Wulf | karlpinc: dash -n ... returns 0 |
| 01:35.19 | karlpinc | Wulf: Then it syntax checks and you should be able to run it with dash. (Or without syntax problems anyway.) |
| 01:36.01 | Wulf | karlpinc: rebooting... |
| 01:36.43 | karlpinc | Wulf: I suspect that /usr/local/bin/something needs /usr/local in $PATH and that's your problem. |
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| 01:37.05 | Wulf | karlpinc: why does echo not work? |
| 01:37.33 | karlpinc | Wulf: Dunno, it might be redirected to a log or something. |
| 01:37.52 | Wulf | btw, when rebooting, the script is run with "stop" argument |
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| 01:47.04 | Ziber | Can someone link me a debian iso for installation via a flash drive 64bit? |
| 01:47.15 | abrotman | the amd64 netinst will be fine |
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| 01:48.19 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: Do you know anything about getting ZFS going on a kfreebsd from the installer? |
| 01:48.43 | abrotman | getting? |
| 01:48.49 | abrotman | i would think it's already availble |
| 01:49.18 | Ziber | i cant seem to find it, anyone link? |
| 01:50.12 | karlpinc | Ziber: Read the install guide. You'll probably need to choose expert mode to be able to create non-default filesystems. |
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| 01:50.57 | Ziber | hm, found it. thanks |
| 01:51.01 | Jonii3 | I have 1 mic port on the front of my computer and 2 on the back. is there ANY way to make all 3 work together? |
| 01:52.31 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: I know zfs will work on that kernel, the last installer I saw didn't include it. There was an off project hack that seems like a bad way to go about it. I've been reading around, being that its new, it's not that documented, and hits are old. |
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| 01:52.49 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: last i knew, it was in the installer |
| 01:52.57 | Mr_Queue | Humm.. |
| 01:53.04 | abrotman | !zfs |
| 01:53.04 | dpkg | ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems (http://deb.li/7xXU). The Debian GNU/kFreeBSD kernel since 7.2 has ZFS support, the userland utilities are packaged as zfsutils in squeeze. A <FUSE> implementation for Debian GNU/Linux systems is in zfs-fuse. For ZFS on Squeeze, see http://deb.li/i4JhI . http://zfs-fuse.net/ #zfs-fuse on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:53.44 | Mr_Queue | I'll give it a go in the morning. I have set aside a machine to have a look at how the project has come. |
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| 01:55.21 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: anyhow, thanks for your thoughts. I've know you around the channel for several years now, and you seem to have a hand in a bit of everything. |
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| 01:57.35 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: also, there is a debian-kfreebsd channel on irc.oftc.net |
| 01:58.56 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: Thanks, I've visited there a few times. Slow for debian channel. I had figured someone here would have been in the same shoes as me. Giving it a go on a test machine. |
| 01:59.15 | Jonii3 | I have 1 mic port on the front of my computer and 2 on the back. is there ANY way to make all 3 work together? |
| 01:59.33 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: yeah, unfortunately, the bsd stuff is fairly new .. not many have experimented with it yet |
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| 02:01.03 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: Right. I'm excited for the idea. The mailing list is flooded with everything from user-level through bug reports etc. It should be split, but until the project gains more support I suppose it will remain as is. |
| 02:01.10 | karlpinc | Jonii3: Surely they should all just work. If they're not, you need to tell us what your doing to test and what errors you get or we can't help. |
| 02:01.24 | abrotman | i doubt there are two mic ports in the back ? |
| 02:01.36 | Jonii3 | abrotman: 1 mic and 1 line in, sorry |
| 02:01.48 | abrotman | Mr_Queue: the -kfreebsd channel may be more active during the day EU time |
| 02:01.48 | Jonii3 | karlpinc: the front works fine, but linux can't see the mic or line on the back |
| 02:02.02 | Jonii3 | karlpinc: the work under windoze..... but only 1 at a time |
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| 02:02.14 | Jonii3 | they* |
| 02:02.16 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: I'll idol over there for a few days and see whats going one. |
| 02:02.48 | Mr_Queue | Jonii3: I only know the gnome gui way of playing with those. You need to make sure the switches are enabled. See your sound preferences. |
| 02:02.52 | pter213 | Question on Exim: During message processing, routers are run, passing messages to transports for delivery. Are all ACL run before the routers are run? For example the smtp_rcpt ACL: Is this run before any router? |
| 02:02.58 | abrotman | idle? |
| 02:03.06 | karlpinc | Jonii3: I know nothing about sound. I'd start by telling us what "lspci -nn" says about the sound card(s). But then I don't know what I'm talking about. |
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| 02:03.07 | abrotman | thinks Mr_Queue watches too much Fox |
| 02:03.09 | phorce1_home | hmmm, fascinating. Annoying, but fascinating. Squeeze, Gnome. Double click on a regular def video and it plays with whatever I have defined (vlc, totem, mplayer). Double click on a hi-def (720 or 1080) and it fails to play -- then ALL other videos also fail to play by clicking or dragging until I log out of X and back in. I *can* play videos (including hi-def) in mplayer from the command line though. Only the clicky stuff fails. |
| 02:03.35 | Mr_Queue | abrotman: Join the channel in and watch the traffic or read logs from past days. |
| 02:03.49 | abrotman | idle is not the same as idol :) |
| 02:03.58 | Mr_Queue | Typing is horrible tonight.. |
| 02:04.06 | JJCale | lol |
| 02:04.08 | deconvolution | hello |
| 02:04.16 | Mr_Queue | I've a half dozen things going on at one.. |
| 02:05.04 | Mr_Queue | Any how, I'm going to mess with the cat while the GF is busy and can't stop me. Run kitty.. :) |
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| 02:10.29 | abrotman | !kittensmite Mr_Queue |
| 02:10.33 | abrotman | oh well .. worth a try |
| 02:10.44 | abrotman | !kitten Mr_Queue |
| 02:10.45 | dpkg | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at Mr_Queue |
| 02:10.52 | abrotman | okay then .. |
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| 02:13.24 | Mr_Queue | haha nice one dpkg |
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| 02:19.28 | yan_ | anyone know a good way of making a process that receives SIGABRT not dump core (but still dump core for other exceptions?) I'm thinking of just catching it, but was wondering if there are cleaner solutions |
| 02:20.43 | cmyers | Is ffmpeg broken in debian-unstable or have I somehow borked my own dependencies? http://pastebin.com/H6MYJ2t9 |
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| 02:21.22 | JJCale | Hi. this is just for testing the colors on my new xchat dark theme |
| 02:22.07 | abrotman | JJ! Love your work! |
| 02:22.30 | abrotman | Shame that Clapton bloke gets all the credit .. |
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| 02:23.32 | JJCale | abrotman: OMG your answer comes in white. Only the good guys talk in White, on my new xchat dark theme! :) |
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| 02:24.10 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:29.48 | superstraw | does the command "wipe" work on directories or just whole hard disks? |
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| 02:30.26 | superstraw | doh nm |
| 02:31.04 | Jonii3 | I have 1 mic input on the front of my computer, 1 mic input on the back, and 1 line input on the back. The single mic input on the front of my computer is the only one that is working. Is there anyway to get linux to recognize all 3 inputs? |
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| 02:34.47 | Jonii3 | ok never mind all 3 work in Sound Preferances, but in jack I only see 1 input (well 2, but its right/left channel) |
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| 02:35.53 | nevyn | Jonii3: usually they'll all be a single capture input with a selector between them |
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| 02:36.58 | Jonii3 | yes, thats what I see in Sound Preferances... but I would like them to all work at the same time |
| 02:37.49 | nevyn | Jonii3: the hardware can't do that. |
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| 02:38.12 | Jonii3 | :( |
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| 02:38.17 | nevyn | there's a single ADC and a multiplexing selector to change which port it's connected to.. |
| 02:38.20 | Jonii3 | soo not what i wanted to here |
| 02:38.22 | nevyn | maybe there's stereo. |
| 02:38.27 | nevyn | but that'd be it. |
| 02:38.34 | Jonii3 | there is stereo... |
| 02:38.48 | Jonii3 | is there at least a way to hook up one input to left channel and the other to right? |
| 02:38.52 | nevyn | hunts up a block diagram |
| 02:38.53 | Jonii3 | did that make sense? |
| 02:38.55 | nevyn | yes. |
| 02:38.58 | nevyn | you CAN do that. |
| 02:39.09 | Jonii3 | well at least i can have 2 channels then, better than 1 |
| 02:39.13 | nevyn | but often the stereo option.. won't have the preamp in chain. |
| 02:39.38 | Jonii3 | preamp.... you mean to make a mic loud enough? I have an external mixer for that |
| 02:39.54 | Jonii3 | radioshacks cheapest, i mean, uh, finest! |
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| 02:40.35 | Jonii3 | nevyn: do you know how i would go about setting that up? |
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| 02:41.22 | blackshirt | hello |
| 02:41.27 | superstraw | hai! |
| 02:41.53 | nevyn | Jonii3: if you have a mixer. then get a stereo RCA -> 3.5mm cable and run that from your mixer to your pc. |
| 02:42.11 | blackshirt | superstraw: hai.. somebody experienced with samba4 setup ? |
| 02:42.27 | nevyn | Jonii3: so does the mixer have main outs or tape outs? |
| 02:42.31 | Jonii3 | both |
| 02:42.46 | nevyn | do you have speakers connected to the mixer? |
| 02:43.02 | Jonii3 | but i want to use ardour, so i was thinking mic 1 port on my computer to "capture_1" and mic 2 port to "capture_2" |
| 02:43.09 | superstraw | just ask, i'm sure someone is |
| 02:43.28 | superstraw | ask a smart question |
| 02:43.44 | nevyn | Jonii3: so just pan them hard left and right on the mixer .. and you're done |
| 02:43.52 | Jonii3 | hmm |
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| 02:44.08 | Jonii3 | :O |
| 02:44.23 | Jonii3 | wishes he was that smart |
| 02:44.36 | nevyn | Jonii3: plus then you can plug a guitar into 3 or 4 and mix outboard. |
| 02:44.52 | nevyn | or pan guitar left and mic right to sing and play at the same time into 2 ardour tracks. |
| 02:45.02 | Jonii3 | thats what i was thinking of |
| 02:45.04 | nevyn | and mute the second mic |
| 02:45.08 | Jonii3 | eh i can't pan the aux channels |
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| 02:45.20 | Jonii3 | i'll just mic the guitar amp |
| 02:45.45 | nevyn | oh. that'll work but you can't really do vocals and guitar in one take that way cause of spillage. |
| 02:45.59 | nevyn | Jonii3: what's the mixer? |
| 02:46.09 | yagoo | puffs out coffee and spills some coffee .. what? |
| 02:46.16 | Jonii3 | um.... |
| 02:46.18 | yagoo | wtf is spillage? |
| 02:46.30 | Jonii3 | "Radio Shack Stereo Mixing Console |
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| 02:46.31 | superstraw | a.k.a. alcohol abuse? |
| 02:46.31 | Jonii3 | " |
| 02:46.35 | nevyn | yagoo: the sound from the amp getting into the vocal mic and inverse |
| 02:46.53 | yagoo | lol |
| 02:46.55 | yagoo | newb.. |
| 02:46.55 | nevyn | so the tracks don't just have vocals and guitar seperate they've got a analog mix of them |
| 02:47.02 | Jonii3 | true |
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| 02:47.17 | yagoo | nevyn, u definitely not an expert in this you sound fundish |
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| 02:47.30 | nevyn | ok. |
| 02:47.31 | nevyn | :) |
| 02:47.32 | Jonii3 | fundish? |
| 02:47.37 | Jonii3 | nice... |
| 02:47.42 | superstraw | wtf is fundish? |
| 02:47.52 | Jonii3 | thinking the same over here, just go along |
| 02:47.55 | superstraw | k |
| 02:47.59 | Jonii3 | smile and wave, smile and wave :D |
| 02:48.14 | superstraw | \o/ |
| 02:48.16 | nevyn | so the aim. is to get a clean track of guitar and vocals. |
| 02:48.20 | Jonii3 | yes |
| 02:48.23 | nevyn | in two seperate tracks. |
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| 02:48.41 | nevyn | in ardour. |
| 02:48.47 | Jonii3 | I wonder if an electric guitar out would work going into a mic in on my mixer |
| 02:48.56 | abrotman | not likely |
| 02:49.07 | abrotman | unless there's an amp between the guitar and sound card |
| 02:49.08 | Jonii3 | hmph |
| 02:49.23 | superstraw | when i was young i plugged a guitar directly to my soundcard... when i was young |
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| 02:49.30 | Jonii3 | his amp might have a headphone jack on it... |
| 02:49.40 | Jonii3 | i suppose thats not great either |
| 02:50.37 | Jonii3 | why is it that the people in #debian are so much smarter/helpful then the guys in #ubuntu? makes me want to change OS lol |
| 02:51.13 | superstraw | the guys in #perl are nice too |
| 02:51.14 | cmyers | can someone with a better understanding of apt than me (which is probably a lot of people) advise on this? Is ffmpeg broken in debian-unstable or have I somehow borked my own dependencies? http://pastebin.com/H6MYJ2t9 |
| 02:51.41 | Jonii3 | one last thing. Anybody know about a midi keyboard into ardour? |
| 02:51.48 | Jonii3 | ima guess thats gonna be tricky |
| 02:52.17 | nevyn | Jonii3: why? |
| 02:52.22 | blackshirt | cmyers: are you using unstable repos ? |
| 02:52.29 | nevyn | what is ardour going to do with a midi keyboard? |
| 02:52.31 | cmyers | blackshirt: yes. |
| 02:52.59 | cmyers | looks like i have unstable and squeeze in my list |
| 02:53.04 | Jonii3 | nevyn: um... maybe i didn't think this through well enough |
| 02:53.09 | cmyers | is having both the problem, since squeeze is stable now? |
| 02:53.26 | nevyn | Jonii3: ardour doesn't do midi sequencing in version 2 in version 3 it does but I don't think you're running that. |
| 02:53.42 | Jonii3 | nope... i could get ardour 3 though |
| 02:53.49 | nevyn | if you want to do sequencing have a look at qtractor, or muse or seq24 |
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| 02:54.07 | Jonii3 | hmm |
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| 02:55.03 | nevyn | or just ignore me smile and wave cause I don't know shit ;) |
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| 02:55.22 | Jonii3 | lol no its just.... i'm so lost |
| 02:55.32 | Jonii3 | the entire sound thing under linux is new |
| 02:55.34 | Jonii3 | for me |
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| 03:01.25 | nevyn | Jonii3: so linux is a capable production platform. if you work in a modular fashion |
| 03:01.54 | nevyn | if you want an integrated solution like pro-tools or reason then lmms is the closest thing and isn't great imho. |
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| 03:02.08 | Jonii3 | I've used lmms before...its ok |
| 03:02.19 | Jonii3 | but now i have another position. |
| 03:02.33 | Jonii3 | my stereo... isn't stereo? |
| 03:02.52 | nevyn | I've gtg to a meeting |
| 03:02.55 | Jonii3 | I have line-in/microphone and Line-in/line-in |
| 03:03.21 | Jonii3 | I thought they were right/left channels, but i pan 1 mic right and one mic left.... they both work on both channels |
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| 03:04.18 | yagoo | Jonii3, i wouldn't expect anything close to studio grade recording.. you need proper equipment for high fidelity.. |
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| 03:04.45 | Jonii3 | yagoo: oh i know |
| 03:04.52 | Jonii3 | yagoo: this is just for messing around |
| 03:05.37 | yagoo | Jonii3, then it really wouldn't make much a difference.. you're always going to picking up some feedback, either from the electronic hum circuits or from another source.. |
| 03:06.09 | Jonii3 | yes but i'm trying to get one mic to work on the left channel and the other to work on the right channel |
| 03:06.14 | yagoo | Jonii3, for high quality audio.. you need those thick audio cables, decent hardware mixers etc etc |
| 03:06.46 | yagoo | just a decent audio cable is expensive in itself.. so definitely messing around would fine .. |
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| 03:08.46 | yagoo | Jonii3, your hardware/soundcard would have to support to being able to stream them at the same time if that's what you mean.. |
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| 03:10.24 | Jonii3 | yagoo: I mean my hardware doesn't support more than one input at a time |
| 03:10.25 | cjhmdm | hello, any advice on where to start to get chipset drivers written for RHEL to work in squeeze? |
| 03:10.41 | Jonii3 | so i'm trying to hook it up so stereo is actually two different channels |
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| 03:10.57 | blackshirt | cmyers: cjhmdm: are you sure just for rhel ? |
| 03:11.33 | cjhmdm | blackshirt: I'm not 100% positive.. but all instructs are for RHEL, and I've tried just outright installing them on squeeze to no avail |
| 03:11.36 | yagoo | cjhmdm, what chipset would that be? |
| 03:11.50 | cjhmdm | yahoo: w83795 |
| 03:11.57 | cjhmdm | for asus z8na-d6c |
| 03:12.18 | cjhmdm | yagoo** sorry |
| 03:12.20 | blackshirt | cjhmdm: i think if it works for linux rhel, will work on other linux.. |
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| 03:13.30 | yagoo | cjhmdm, seems experimental.. http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/SENSORS_W83795.html |
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| 03:15.01 | cjhmdm | yagoo: yeah, I saw that >< wasn't sure if it applied though as my motherboard manufacturer provides the necessary drivers and tools.. but seemingly only for RHEL >< |
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| 03:15.38 | yagoo | cjhmdm, asus offers rhel instructions? |
| 03:15.56 | cjhmdm | http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=k81cpN8uEB01BpQ6 |
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| 03:16.31 | cjhmdm | if you go to the download tab, then select linux it'll give you a list of files available.. under utilities it has what I need, but it's all for RHEL >< |
| 03:16.38 | yagoo | cjhmdm, go back to that site.. there's othre downloads.. seemingly one for a generic linux @ 433 megs.. |
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| 03:17.09 | cjhmdm | yagoo: I figured that was the older version >< I'll try it |
| 03:17.12 | yagoo | yikes |
| 03:17.53 | cjhmdm | yagoo: well, the 433mb one only says RHEL as well >< |
| 03:18.33 | yagoo | cjhmdm, what distro u using? just use the latest kernel and try that module after turning on experimental for kern compile |
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| 03:19.38 | yagoo | cjhmdm, squeeze amd64? |
| 03:19.43 | cjhmdm | yagoo: debian squeeze amd64.. how do I turn on experimental? the instrutions do say to enable unsupported modules but the line WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/unsupported.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'allow_unsupported_modules' is invalid for debian >< |
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| 03:20.13 | karlpinc | cjhmdm: If you give us a pciid (assuming such exists for your device) from "lspci -nn" we can type ",pciid [xxx:yyy]" into the channel and get a list of supported drivers. |
| 03:20.38 | karlpinc | cjhmdm: You want a kernel from backports, or compile your own from kernel.org. |
| 03:20.50 | karlpinc | !tell cjhmdm about backports |
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| 03:21.06 | karlpinc | !tell cjhmdm about make-kpkg |
| 03:21.25 | cjhmdm | karlpinc: well, I was using w83627ehf which is detected and used when setting up lm-sensors... but I don't get the proper readouts and such >< |
| 03:22.02 | karlpinc | cjhmdm: Sounds like a new(er) kernel is what you need, but my understanding is limited. |
| 03:23.41 | cjhmdm | here's my output for lspci -nn: http://pastebin.com/6itDGxYN |
| 03:24.13 | cjhmdm | not really sure which to look for, so gave the full output >< |
| 03:24.19 | yagoo | cjhmdm, u need .38 bleeding edge.. that module is experimental.. |
| 03:24.48 | yagoo | or rather the one u mentioned ten minutes ago.. |
| 03:26.16 | yagoo | even the asus links are like jan 2011 |
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| 03:27.47 | karlpinc | cjhmdm: Sounds like you can download the sid kernel source and either use make-kpkg on it or get the .config from it and get the very latest from kernel.org and use make-kpkg to make yourself a kernel package turning on that module. (Then wait for the 2.6.38 to show up on backports and switch to that so as to rely on Debian for security patches.) |
| 03:28.43 | cjhmdm | that sounds just a bit advanced for me lol >< I'll see where I get with it though |
| 03:29.15 | cjhmdm | I didn't figure this would be so difficult especially since the motherboard isn't exactly the latest model |
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| 03:31.14 | cjhmdm | I don't have an exact date but the first BIOS update goes back to May 2009 |
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| 03:31.52 | simonrvn | cjhmdm: proper readouts might be from an improperly configure sensors3.conf too |
| 03:32.00 | simonrvn | cjhmdm: er, improper |
| 03:32.10 | simonrvn | configured* |
| 03:32.19 | simonrvn | sighs at his typist |
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| 03:33.24 | simonrvn | the default conf has a boatload of sensors in it, just pick one out of it, and use that, and move the original out of the way |
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| 03:34.00 | simonrvn | waits impatiently for his improved current kernel build to finish |
| 03:34.26 | dvs | heh |
| 03:34.45 | cjhmdm | well, this is the guide I used to install and configure lm-sensors >< http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780 |
| 03:35.00 | dvs | it's too late to compile for me. |
| 03:36.17 | simonrvn | dvs: i enabled some ipv6 options that were making it so that the route cache expires way too quickly |
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| 03:36.38 | fredsaunders | I saw someone with a USB stick that was able to boot to a Debian OS. Every time I download Debian to a USB stick, it has to be installed to the HDD. How do I get the full OS onto the USB stick? |
| 03:36.44 | simonrvn | dvs: er, the old kernel did. this change should improve things ;) |
| 03:36.57 | dvs | I hope so. |
| 03:37.05 | simonrvn | read: disabled options, that i enabled in this one |
| 03:37.17 | simonrvn | aaaah |
| 03:37.26 | simonrvn | confused himself |
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| 03:38.04 | dvs | maybe you're uncompiling the kernel. |
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| 03:38.10 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 03:38.25 | simonrvn | ask ccache :P |
| 03:38.55 | magi | fred.. be sure to burn iso image to your usb properly.. ? |
| 03:39.33 | dvs | fredsaunders: get the live iso? |
| 03:39.41 | magi | make BIOS see your USB first? |
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| 03:43.36 | cjhmdm | I might be in luck... found this: http://khali.linux-fr.org/devel/misc/w83795/ which says Should build and run on kernel 2.6.16 and later. |
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| 03:49.16 | magi | ohh runs in windows too |
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| 04:27.33 | piercedwater | I give. How do I install unrar-nonfree from repository? |
| 04:28.21 | mrdeb | apt-get intall unrar |
| 04:28.21 | Arrowmaster | you gota add the non-free sources |
| 04:29.03 | magi | rpm fusion? |
| 04:29.07 | Arrowmaster | !non-free sources |
| 04:29.07 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then aptitude update. But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
| 04:29.37 | magi | thats it.. im leaving fedora for debian |
| 04:30.00 | mrdeb | really |
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| 04:30.40 | magi | can someone tell me what the "bt" stans for in the releases? |
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| 04:32.34 | Arrowmaster | bittorrent |
| 04:32.56 | piercedwater | unrar-free isnt listed after adding those items to my sources |
| 04:32.59 | piercedwater | :( |
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| 04:34.57 | mrdeb | did you update |
| 04:35.29 | mrdeb | you could also download the deb and install it with terminal |
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| 04:37.20 | magi | ahh bit torrent thanks |
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| 04:44.28 | phorce1_home | OK, old machine on the intraweb (old as in Sarge I think) not on the open internet. When ssh'd or logged in lovally I can use dvips to generate a .pdf file. But, through an internal web page I get this in the apache error log "dvips: Problems with file writing; probably disk full." It's acting like whatever user the web server is running as suddenly has no permissions to write to /tmp. Worked fine until 3 days ago. No updates (obviously |
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| 04:44.46 | phorce1_home | s/lovally/locally/ |
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| 05:38.13 | iguana7 | Hey all. I'm trying to build a .deb package using debhelper. The upstream source includes old and unmaintained files in a debian/ subdir to build a package, but they are out-of-date and I would prefer to start over. I'm trying to follow the New Maintainer's guide about all this, but all I see there is the use of quilt to manage patches to existing files. If files from the upstream source need to be deleted, what's the appropriate |
| 05:38.15 | iguana7 | way to record that? |
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| 05:40.26 | phorce1_home | fixed it. Now I have to figure out who's fingers to break for poking around on a system that is borderline and near replacement but NECESSARY until it is replaced (/tmp was root:root and drwxrwxr-t instead of drwxrwxrwt) |
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| 05:45.23 | Evil-Twin | is there a trick to getting gigabit speed in a single download? I can reach it with multiple download threads but not with a single one |
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| 05:46.01 | KB1JWQ | TCP window scaling. |
| 05:47.04 | wobblyonions | guys, how hard is it in Debian to setup a load of disk as an NFS Share to be used by other devices? |
| 05:47.13 | wobblyonions | or is ISCI the way to go for this |
| 05:47.14 | Evil-Twin | i've tried a few settings in iperf but can't get it right |
| 05:47.29 | wobblyonions | meant ISCSI |
| 05:47.44 | Evil-Twin | do you have any suggested settings? |
| 05:48.46 | iguana7 | wobblyonions: not hard to set up the NFS server and exports |
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| 05:54.16 | wobblyonions | do you know of any documentation anywhere that I could use to set this up |
| 05:54.18 | ElDiabolo | wobblyonions, Depends on what you want. NFS tends to suck, but is actually easy to set up. |
| 05:54.50 | ElDiabolo | wobblyonions, ISCSI won't give you shared disk space. |
| 05:55.03 | wobblyonions | basically looking to use the Debian server disk as disk for some other servers for a few days while we sort out some issues with the current system and then move back to that |
| 05:55.41 | wobblyonions | there is a server running ESXi that has a few VM's on it and want to use the Debian server as the disk for that I mean |
| 05:55.42 | Bert_2 | Hi, how stable would you guys consider btrfs in squeeze and/or wheezy ? |
| 05:55.53 | wobblyonions | options are NFS or ISCSI realy as far as I know |
| 05:58.11 | ElDiabolo | wobblyonions, No experience with that. Are there databases or other things that cause heavy disk activities. |
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| 05:59.40 | iguana7 | wobblyonions: http://www.howtoforge.com/nfs-server-and-client-debian-etch . You don't need to explicitly list portmap like he does since it will get pulled in via nfs-common . |
| 05:59.54 | ElDiabolo | wobblyonions, Take a look at that squashroot thingie. NFS had bad security and tried to work around by denying root write permissions. |
| 05:59.56 | wobblyonions | yes disk IO will be heavy but the Debian server will be built to deal with that I just wanted to see if it is possoble |
| 06:00.09 | iguana7 | In the apt-get invocation I meant. |
| 06:00.25 | wobblyonions | will take a look at that that |
| 06:00.40 | ElDiabolo | wobblyonions, Check out, how NFS behaves under heavy disk load. |
| 06:01.01 | iguana7 | You can use gss, etc. to secure NFS if necessary. |
| 06:01.42 | iguana7 | wobblyonions: if the network is good, best to mount using an rsize and wsize of 32768 or higher. Also a good idea to mount TCP, the overhead saved with UDP is negligible |
| 06:01.47 | ElDiabolo | iguana7, I intentionally wrote _had_ |
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| 06:02.29 | wobblyonions | thanks for your help I will take a look at that all tonight and see what will work best |
| 06:02.32 | iguana7 | ElDiabolo: ok, and? |
| 06:03.13 | ElDiabolo | iguana7, No and. Looks like you understand NFS better than me. |
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| 06:05.58 | fr0stbyte | if I drop a shell script in /etc/init.d is it called on startup? |
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| 06:08.06 | Evil-Twin | fr0stbyte, only if u update rc.d |
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| 06:08.48 | Evil-Twin | update-rc.d blah defaults 80 |
| 06:09.01 | Evil-Twin | blah is name of script |
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| 06:15.37 | phorce1_home | grrr, I'm gonna break someone's nose or something. SMTP isn't working also on that machine that was having issues with permissions on /tmp. /etc/init.d/exim4 start issues no errors but ther's nothing listening on localhost port 25 to accept mail and forward it to the smarthost. And it's not like I can easily reinstall stuff on a sarge machine |
| 06:15.55 | fr0stbyte | Evil-Twin, i just get an error |
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| 06:16.08 | fr0stbyte | i recall there being an easier way to add a script, like python/php/ruby |
| 06:16.11 | fr0stbyte | rc/local? |
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| 06:19.31 | iguana7 | fr0stbyte: sysv-rc-conf |
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| 06:21.28 | iguana7 | fr0stbyte: in order to add scripts. If you just want to invoke something trivial at boot, then you can add/modify /etc/rc.local |
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| 06:22.05 | fr0stbyte | alright ill go with the latter, thanks |
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| 06:23.49 | iguana7 | fr0stbyte: the way to figure that out is to look at /etc/init.d where the init scripts live -- there is a file there called rc.local, and commonly does what you're looking for. however, if you peek inside that script, it wants to load the actual commands from /etc/rc.local - this is a Debian thing. |
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| 06:36.27 | subsume | I believe there's a bug in erland in my lenny installation. i saw some chatter about it as of may 2010 but i'm wondering if lenny is still affected |
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| 06:37.07 | Dewi | subsume: lenny doesn't change after release except to fix major (usually security) problems |
| 06:37.20 | Dewi | subsume: you could check squeeze though, which has come out since |
| 06:37.29 | subsume | yeah I've got squeeze running on another box now |
| 06:38.13 | subsume | guess i should just try that |
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| 06:39.19 | subsume | how can i tell what version of erlany lenny uses vs squeeze? |
| 06:39.24 | subsume | erlang |
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| 06:40.57 | subsume | eh, found it |
| 06:41.01 | woonix | subsume: http://packages.debian.org |
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| 06:43.02 | jelly-home | phorce1_home: sure you can reinstall stuff, /msg dpkg sarge sources.list |
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| 06:49.51 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: thought about that after I said it. Wandered off to lower my blood pressure then was going to google it |
| 06:49.54 | phorce1_home | thx |
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| 06:52.38 | voltagex | I've managed to turn off my main monitor in Gnome's monitor settings app, is there any way I can fix this from the cli? |
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| 06:54.02 | nevyn | voltagex: yes. |
| 06:54.30 | voltagex | nevyn: xrandr says "cannot open screen" |
| 06:54.32 | phorce1_home | jelly-home: I got the call about the errors while here at home. So, I am using NX to connect to a machine inside the network that has the ability to connect to the saarge machine so I can ssh and https from there |
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| 06:54.42 | nevyn | voltagex: export display=localhost:0 |
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| 06:55.26 | voltagex | oops |
| 06:55.40 | voltagex | so, now it says cannot open display localhost:0 |
| 06:55.50 | piercedwater | Does anyone know of a program that will catalogue media files based on their metadata? im looking for something that can be accessed via web |
| 06:56.00 | mrdeb | do you reocmmend 32bit or 64bit |
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| 06:56.48 | voltagex | mrdeb: for what? |
| 06:57.10 | mrdeb | for super fast use |
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| 06:58.24 | nevyn | mrdeb: of what? |
| 06:59.24 | voltagex | mrdeb: desktop, server, media centre? |
| 06:59.47 | voltagex | nevyn: no luck getting xrandr to find my display, what next? |
| 06:59.50 | drzed | re |
| 07:00.07 | nevyn | voltagex: try just :0 |
| 07:00.26 | drzed | is it possible to execute a programm if the wireless interface is powered on? |
| 07:00.31 | drzed | if so how? |
| 07:00.35 | voltagex | nevyn: "no protocol specified, cannot open display :0" |
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| 07:01.05 | voltagex | drzed: putting a script in the ifup directory may work, what are you trying to do? |
| 07:01.08 | nevyn | drzed: if or when? |
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| 07:01.27 | mrdeb | desktop |
| 07:01.35 | voltagex | mrdeb: how much ram in it? |
| 07:01.55 | mrdeb | 2gb |
| 07:02.09 | drzed | voltagex: not on ifup, on power on |
| 07:02.14 | voltagex | mrdeb: no real benefit to 64bit, but you can use either |
| 07:02.21 | drzed | i want to invoke ifup if it is powered on |
| 07:02.22 | voltagex | drzed: what are you trying to do? |
| 07:02.45 | nevyn | drzed: it depends how youre particular hardware handles power on. |
| 07:02.51 | mrdeb | voltagex: except flash performance is higher and media encoding too |
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| 07:03.12 | voltagex | mrdeb: sounds like you've alreay decided then. |
| 07:03.14 | nevyn | some devices implement this as a pci hotplug. some just power on the device. |
| 07:03.16 | romantic_rectum | im very unhappy with debian |
| 07:03.26 | nevyn | romantic_rectum: so use somethign else? |
| 07:03.33 | voltagex | romantic_rectum: ask for your money back |
| 07:03.57 | drzed | nevyn: i guess not, it still is visible w/ iwconfig if its off |
| 07:04.11 | nevyn | drzed: check what happens in dmesg? |
| 07:04.16 | voltagex | drzed: is your issue that it tries to use ifup before the device is powered on? |
| 07:04.16 | nevyn | if you power it off and on. |
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| 07:04.32 | voltagex | nevyn: next thing to try with my display? |
| 07:04.36 | nevyn | voltagex: no i suspect he's a networkmanager hater but still wants the functionality of networkmanager |
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| 07:04.52 | Ox1 | voltagex: which gfx card? |
| 07:04.58 | voltagex | nevyn, drzed: wicd then :) |
| 07:05.12 | voltagex | Ox1: Radeon 6870 |
| 07:05.36 | voltagex | Ox1: I actually want to disable xrandr completely so I can use aticonfig |
| 07:05.40 | romantic_rectum | voltagex: nevyn why are you attacking me |
| 07:06.07 | voltagex | romantic_rectum: what in particular are you having trouble with? |
| 07:06.17 | mrdeb | voltagex: well, i dont know. there are odd unknown bits that dont work or may not be supported |
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| 07:06.36 | romantic_rectum | money back part |
| 07:06.36 | Ox1 | voltagex: i don't think you can swap screens in-and-out if you define the layout in xorg.conf; i could be wrong |
| 07:06.38 | voltagex | mrdeb: try both, the only cost is your time |
| 07:06.54 | nevyn | romantic_rectum: because you've made a statement that I can't do anything to fix. if you're unhappy with debian use something that makes you happy. |
| 07:07.01 | voltagex | romantic_rectum: no, what in debian are you having problems with |
| 07:07.04 | drzed | dmesg does not output anything |
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| 07:07.18 | mrdeb | you are reasonable in the answers |
| 07:07.25 | drzed | only the tx-Power is off |
| 07:07.42 | voltagex | Ox1: the problem is I'm an idiot and I've disabled my screen with xrandr or the gnome gui for it |
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| 07:08.19 | nevyn | hrm |
| 07:08.29 | nevyn | voltagex: try running xauth then run xrandr |
| 07:08.44 | drzed | well wicd is some gui stuff, im seach for a background daemon/tool |
| 07:08.47 | romantic_rectum | voltagex: i dont like the name debian it reminds me of my girl friend |
| 07:08.51 | nevyn | actually that probably won't work. |
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| 07:09.14 | voltagex | ah, a troll. |
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| 07:09.35 | simonrvn | voltagex: *ding* |
| 07:09.35 | voltagex | drzed: wicd is actually a daemon first, there is a gui for it though |
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| 07:09.54 | voltagex | simonrvn: *acheivement unlocked* |
| 07:10.01 | simonrvn | heh |
| 07:10.04 | voltagex | nevyn: what xauth command? |
| 07:10.07 | mrdeb | i like wicd-curses by itself |
| 07:10.09 | nevyn | voltagex: the problem is this. your xserver is running but you can't see it. you can't access the vidcard config without access to the xserver so you're kinda in a catch22 |
| 07:10.15 | nevyn | voltagex: it won't work. |
| 07:10.20 | Ox1 | voltagex: DISPLAY=:0.1 xrandr .... |
| 07:10.29 | Ox1 | voltagex: DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr .... |
| 07:10.30 | voltagex | nevyn: ouch. crap, I'm normally not this bad with linux. |
| 07:11.01 | voltagex | Ox1: same error about not being able to open the display |
| 07:11.13 | nevyn | voltagex: ctrl-alt-backspace on the vty that X is running on will kill everything and give you a working X but you'll lose your session |
| 07:11.20 | Ox1 | how are you accessing the box? |
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| 07:11.44 | Ox1 | won't work from console afaik, do it over SSH or something |
| 07:11.47 | kingsley | Is there any news on packaging the newly GPL'ed "j" programming language? |
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| 07:12.02 | kingsley | I like to think of "j" as Ken Iverson's swan song, after he won the Turing Award for APL. |
| 07:12.18 | nevyn | Ox1: it won't work over ssh either. |
| 07:12.37 | nevyn | outta here guys. |
| 07:12.57 | voltagex | Ox1: any idea where the xrandr stuff is stored by gnome? |
| 07:13.44 | simonrvn | probably the gconf stuff |
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| 07:13.54 | voltagex | Ox1: nevermind, X wasn't running - mustve crashed |
| 07:14.03 | voltagex | now, how to disable XRandr? |
| 07:14.08 | Ox1 | nevyn: it wokrs fine here over SSH |
| 07:14.26 | Ox1 | voltagex: just define your layout statitcally in xorg.conf |
| 07:14.28 | voltagex | I'm sorry, I should have run ps first |
| 07:14.40 | Ox1 | statically |
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| 07:24.28 | voltagex | Ox1: I just installed Gnome, and there is now a version of Catalyst Control Centre in it - 2 displays now working!! |
| 07:24.55 | Ox1 | great |
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| 07:26.25 | jhutchins_lt | Y'Know? Flash really, REALLy sucks. |
| 07:26.45 | jhutchins_lt | Crashes one time in three at least |
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| 07:28.45 | Ox1 | old news |
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| 07:36.58 | Escherial | i've been granted control of a dev machine at the lab, but i'm not too familiar with how to configure the firewall from the command line (it's running ubuntu server edition)...i'm just looking to open an extra tcp port (8008, to be specific) |
| 07:37.25 | Escherial | i know it has something to do with iptables...if it's the sort of thing i should just google, please let me know and i will do so... |
| 07:37.42 | Sebus | you want to allow input/forward? |
| 07:38.03 | Escherial | right; i'm running a webserver on port 8008 and i'd like to accept incoming connections to it |
| 07:38.28 | kingsley | Someone on #ubuntu may have good advice too. |
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| 07:39.17 | Sebus | hmm i have such thing on my machine |
| 07:39.36 | Sebus | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1337 -j ACCEPT |
| 07:39.48 | kingsley | I vaguely recall configuring a webserver to listen to a non-standard port by editing a configuration file. |
| 07:39.49 | Escherial | neat, thank you! :) |
| 07:40.02 | Escherial | i'll try that out and see if it does the trick |
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| 07:45.54 | blackshirt | "d |
| 07:46.27 | Sebus | damn... school... i hate school... :E |
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| 07:47.20 | Escherial | what level of school are you in? :}~ |
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| 07:49.16 | Sebus | IT college |
| 07:49.31 | Sebus | one month before matura exams... |
| 07:49.54 | Escherial | ah, good luck to you x_x |
| 07:50.14 | Escherial | are you studying mostly sysadmin stuff, or other things? |
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| 07:50.27 | Sebus | Escherial: hah, only on my own |
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| 07:50.58 | Escherial | what do you do in it college then, out of curiosity? i assume it's different than your regular computer science/engineering degree... |
| 07:51.00 | Sebus | all I remember from school was only something about ip/mask/network calculations |
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| 07:51.18 | Sebus | rest of time is wasted.. for me... |
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| 07:53.21 | Escherial | the worst thing in the world is wasting time, imo |
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| 07:53.37 | Escherial | unless of course you're "wasting" it enjoying somethimg :) |
| 07:53.47 | Escherial | *something, even! my typing skills are not up to par today |
| 07:54.18 | Escherial | i'm in this terrible cycle of listening to a song i wrote today over and over again, to the point where it becomes "canon" in my mind and thus unimprovable |
| 07:54.20 | Escherial | frustrating |
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| 07:55.41 | Sebus | Escherial: I am actually..hm.. sitting from school on my home server, way better than just watchin websites or like my friends, playing games :E |
| 07:56.20 | Escherial | well, you're in #debian...that's at least coincidentally related to school, i guess :) |
| 07:56.40 | Sebus | I bet math is less boring and also other subjects... |
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| 07:57.04 | Sebus | I don't know how I will get IT degree |
| 07:57.27 | Escherial | :\ |
| 07:57.28 | Sebus | just because we are doing nothing, absolutelly nothing ... |
| 07:57.47 | Sebus | btw sorry for my english >.< |
| 07:58.02 | Escherial | not at all :) you speak english pretty well |
| 07:58.29 | Escherial | i speak no language other than english...i should apologize for that more often :3 |
| 07:59.05 | Sebus | lucky you |
| 07:59.18 | Sebus | we have |
| 07:59.18 | Sebus | grr |
| 07:59.23 | Sebus | also german.. |
| 07:59.41 | Escherial | where are you located, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 07:59.45 | Escherial | (generally speaking) |
| 07:59.48 | Sebus | Poland |
| 07:59.51 | Sebus | :E |
| 08:00.00 | Escherial | ah, and they teach classes in german there too, huh? |
| 08:00.16 | Sebus | yea |
| 08:00.18 | Escherial | my girlfriend was considering attending eth zurich, but the upper-division courses there are in german (which she doesn't speak, sadly) |
| 08:00.27 | Escherial | hmm. |
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| 08:00.47 | anddam | hi |
| 08:00.56 | Sebus | I could choose between German, Spanish and Russian |
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| 08:01.20 | musictoto | hi! i'm looking to download the new debian-6.0.1.a-i386 release, but isn't that 1 CD download? |
| 08:01.33 | Sebus | there is netinstal |
| 08:01.36 | anddam | how can I create a profile for a monitor without a measurement device? |
| 08:01.58 | psyop | thats weird.. one user is logged in to my debian box FROM: cache:S.0 |
| 08:02.05 | psyop | whats that all about. :o |
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| 08:02.20 | Sebus | musictoto: http: // cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1a/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 08:02.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | anddam: what profile |
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| 08:02.35 | musictoto | Sebus: i'm there... |
| 08:02.41 | anddam | on OS X there's a user-guided wizard that asks to match grey levels and so, here on Squeeze and GNOME, Color Management has a greyed out button "create profile for devices..." |
| 08:02.47 | Sebus | 1 cd is... netinstal |
| 08:02.51 | anddam | Kamping_Kaiser: color profile |
| 08:02.58 | Sebus | good if your working on command prompt :D |
| 08:03.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | anddam: i've only seen (proper) colour calibration happen with probes |
| 08:03.37 | anddam | I don't need proper, I need decent |
| 08:03.54 | Escherial | hmm, no dice with iptables -- i think whoever set this thing up configured another machine to open the ports i can access |
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| 08:04.07 | musictoto | Sebus: i remember that i downloaded only one CD of 645 MB for debian 5 |
| 08:04.17 | ethanol | morning |
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| 08:04.34 | anddam | also I have vim.gnome installed and set as default but from CLI it starts in terminal, I'd like to have the GUI instead |
| 08:04.40 | Sebus | musictoto: i see 1st cd-1 iso |
| 08:04.47 | Sebus | 647MB |
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| 08:05.05 | musictoto | Sebus: do you think i can make a complete install with only the first CD ? |
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| 08:05.24 | Sebus | musictoto: you can even from smaller CD pack |
| 08:05.36 | musictoto | Sebus: ok thanks |
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| 08:05.57 | Sebus | to be honest, I'm only using console |
| 08:06.45 | Sebus | old habit from old, good MS-DOS times, hehe |
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| 08:09.54 | dzan | hi, running debian squeeze ( kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 ) here. I wanted to add the udev rules for my android phone so adb devices works when not root too, here is a shell session with all needed data: http://pastebin.com/8Xmh2py7 i really can't find the solution, been at this almost a whole day already, could someone please have a look? |
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| 08:11.54 | Ticho | dzan: ls -l /dev/android* is missing |
| 08:13.09 | dzan | Ticho, I updatet: http://pastebin.com/index/8Xmh2py7 |
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| 08:14.38 | dzan | Ticho, no there it seems, second |
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| 08:15.43 | dzan | Ticho, this is it: http://pastebin.com/TrUXDaqg |
| 08:16.19 | anddam | Kamping_Kaiser: any hint? any software calibration tool? |
| 08:16.39 | Ticho | dzan: sorry, my bad - android* are just symlinks - what are permissions of the device files they point to ? |
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| 08:18.39 | dzan | Ticho, http://pastebin.com/6iFxs0nL here all of them |
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| 08:20.01 | Ticho | dzan: there you go - they're owned by root, and only accessible by owner - so the udev rule doesn't work as you'd want to |
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| 08:21.03 | dzan | Ticho, hmmz and how can i change them mounting like i want? fstab or something ( not a real pro linux user :D ) |
| 08:21.31 | dzan | and the /dev/bus/usb/002/010 is readable by all only the others aren't |
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| 08:21.45 | anddam | dzan: what driver provides /dev/android*? |
| 08:22.24 | dzan | anddam, i'm sorry... i'd need more details to provide the answer |
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| 08:22.26 | dzan | the usb driver? |
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| 08:22.55 | anddam | I'm asking as I've just used the emulator |
| 08:23.18 | Ticho | dzan: i think it should be OWNER=, not USER= in the udev rule |
| 08:23.22 | dzan | i'm using a htc desire hd |
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| 08:23.49 | dzan | Ticho, so no need fixing the rights on the usb devices? |
| 08:24.14 | Ticho | no, the udev rule should do it |
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| 08:25.49 | dzan | Ticho, it did! |
| 08:25.52 | dzan | you own :) |
| 08:26.47 | Ticho | cheers :> |
| 08:27.28 | dzan | :) |
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| 08:34.15 | UreshiiTora | morgen |
| 08:34.32 | UreshiiTora | jemand da? |
| 08:34.43 | niklaswe | morrn morrn |
| 08:35.30 | UreshiiTora | niklaswe? |
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| 08:38.07 | niklaswe | UreshiiTora: opps wrong channel. |
| 08:38.29 | alami | hi, what are the option that i can do on the recovery mode |
| 08:38.55 | UreshiiTora | anybody here who could help me setting up openswan + xl2tpd? |
| 08:39.28 | UreshiiTora | i would like to connect to my network with my cell phone (HTC Desire) |
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| 08:40.12 | treebeen | is anyone interested in a backport of chromium from unstable? |
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| 08:40.56 | Bushmills | are you? |
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| 08:41.51 | Bushmills | alami: you can run commands |
| 08:42.18 | treebeen | Bushmills: yeah, I've built one... but they say stuff from unstable is not accepted anyway into squeeze-backports |
| 08:42.30 | Bushmills | treebeen: then somebody is |
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| 08:43.34 | treebeen | Bushmills: anyone other than me... i have a repo for amd64, so just wanna let people know who are interested |
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| 09:06.10 | alami | Bushmills: yes but my ubuntu is weired after start up, how can i repair that, on recovery mode, or i musst boot with with ubuntu install cd, and do repaire? |
| 09:06.37 | Bushmills | sorry, i don't know ubuntu |
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| 09:08.05 | Bushmills | btw, there is an #ubuntu channel on freenode. chances are that they know there. |
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| 09:12.03 | Bus3rr0r | well, there is a channel called #ubuntu - which says it is the official support channel |
| 09:12.18 | alami | Bushmills: sorry that was only a mistak, i mean debian |
| 09:12.49 | alami | only beacuse i'm was talking on the phone i have right another name :D |
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| 09:25.08 | LordZiru | how to enable "Remember password" (seahorse-gnome)? |
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| 09:26.54 | LordZiru | how to enable "Remember password" (seahorse-gnome)? |
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| 09:29.28 | LordZiru | how to enable "Remember password" (seahorse-gnome)? |
| 09:29.49 | jelly | !repeat |
| 09:29.49 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 09:30.43 | LordZiru | !dontmess jelly |
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| 09:31.39 | LordZiru | i just repeat because.... new users joins to the room |
| 09:32.17 | jelly | LordZiru: don't do that. |
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| 09:33.30 | jelly | LordZiru: sorry, I can't. If I knew anything I'd have already wrote something. |
| 09:33.52 | jelly | written* |
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| 09:53.59 | grechk_ | Hello everyone, I have a problem that I can not solve. I use debian squeeze and my hardware is an Asus M3A with AMD Phenom 9950. The problem is that if I enable cool'n quiet for energy saving at times restart my computer, sometimes it blocking completely. If disabling cool'n quiet everything works perfectly. |
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| 09:54.59 | grechk_ | I have already updated the bios with no results |
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| 10:01.34 | _jmz_ | yeh I have a bit of a weird problem, so i have a laptop which doesn't boot from USB, the CD drive is fucked, and it can't netboot |
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| 10:02.20 | _jmz_ | i wanna stick debian on it, i was thinking of just making a partition on the HDD (hooked up of IDE-USB to another computer) and sticking the installer image on it |
| 10:02.31 | _jmz_ | but i'm not sure if that would work |
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| 10:03.13 | petemc | _jmz_: is there anything installed on it at the minute? |
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| 10:04.04 | _jmz_ | nope, I'm using a spare harddrive, because it was a fucking effort to get windows installed, so i don't wanna nuke that install, just gunna swap the HDD out for another one |
| 10:04.13 | _jmz_ | so i can switch between them at my leisure |
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| 10:04.49 | _jmz_ | would a cat debian-6.0.1a-i386-netinst.iso > /dev/sdb1 work? |
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| 10:05.24 | _jmz_ | i somehow think it can't be that easy |
| 10:05.27 | petemc | _jmz_: if you have another linux host, put the hard drive in that and use debootstrap |
| 10:05.39 | _jmz_ | got a linux host right here |
| 10:05.46 | _jmz_ | lemme google debootstrap |
| 10:05.50 | _jmz_ | thanks =] |
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| 10:06.39 | _jmz_ | oh wow, this is perfect |
| 10:06.41 | _jmz_ | thats petemc |
| 10:06.43 | petemc | np |
| 10:06.48 | _jmz_ | thanks* |
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| 10:38.17 | mightyrox | someone who can help with proftpd and mod_sql - 550 permission denied problem? .. in #proftpd nobody answers to my question |
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| 10:40.36 | krmX | hi, what are the differences between 2.6-686 and 2.6.32-5-686 packaged with squeeze? |
| 10:40.52 | krmX | which one should I choose when installing on an IBM x3650 server? |
| 10:41.16 | omes- | mightyrox: you might get lucky if you post some (error) logs and your config file |
| 10:41.19 | babilen | krmX: The former is a metapackage that does not actually include a kernel, but depends on the most recent package that does. |
| 10:41.39 | krmX | so, which one should I choose then? |
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| 10:41.59 | babilen | krmX: This would in this case be linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 -- I would just install the metapackage, so you always get the newest kernel. |
| 10:42.02 | mightyrox | omes-: I don´t want to flood the channel ;-) .. can I pm you? |
| 10:42.16 | babilen | ,depends linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 10:42.18 | judd | Package linux-image-2.6-686 -- depends: linux-image-2.6.32-5-686. |
| 10:42.24 | babilen | krmX: See ^^^^ |
| 10:42.42 | krmX | ok, thanks =) |
| 10:42.46 | mightyrox | i´ve got a problem with multiple users and mod_sql .. I have a running configuration with one user which can login and has write permission to it´s home directory. I added a new user to the mysql table and he can login, but if I try to upload a file or create a directory I get the error 550 test: Permission denied .. any ideas? |
| 10:42.47 | babilen | No problem |
| 10:43.08 | omes- | mightyrox: that's what pastebin.com is for... |
| 10:43.14 | mightyrox | ok |
| 10:43.33 | babilen | !tell mightyrox -about paste |
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| 10:45.11 | krmX | ummm, 2.6-686 is a newer metapackage then 2.6-486? |
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| 10:46.50 | mightyrox | ok this is my config, version and loaded modules http://pastebin.com/3rtGbAv9 |
| 10:47.50 | babilen | krmX: different processor generations and therefore different available features on them |
| 10:49.32 | babilen | krmX: 486 processors are ancient, but still supported |
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| 10:50.35 | krmX | ok, I see. thanks once more |
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| 10:52.28 | anddam | how can I check if this cpu supports amd64? |
| 10:52.36 | casts | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 10:52.51 | anddam | I already did, nothing obvious appears |
| 10:52.54 | anddam | like "amd64" |
| 10:53.05 | anddam | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:53.33 | casts | paste the flags line |
| 10:53.55 | babilen | "grep lm /proc/cpuinfo" |
| 10:54.07 | anddam | babilen: empty |
| 10:54.20 | anddam | what lm stands for? |
| 10:54.23 | babilen | It doesn't then. |
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| 10:54.37 | anddam | flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr |
| 10:55.48 | babilen | As established before, you do not have a 64bit processor. |
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| 10:56.30 | _jmz_ | so when i do cfdisk on /dev/sdb, i make two partions, one 59750MB primary bootable linux, one 250MB logical swap |
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| 10:56.44 | _jmz_ | the first one gets labeled sdb1 |
| 10:56.48 | _jmz_ | then second sdb5 |
| 10:56.58 | _jmz_ | however when i ls /dev/sdb* |
| 10:57.06 | _jmz_ | i have sdb1, sdb2, sdb5 |
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| 10:57.18 | _jmz_ | anyone got any idea where sdb2 is coming from? |
| 10:57.27 | AVRS | extended? |
| 10:57.54 | AVRS | I guess: 1. primary, 2. extended, 5. logical in extended |
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| 10:58.10 | anddam | thanks |
| 10:58.26 | babilen | AVRS: That is definitely the case |
| 10:58.58 | AVRS | 1-4 are reserved for primary/extended |
| 11:00.06 | casts | good old extended partitions |
| 11:00.16 | casts | can i suggest not using them and switching to LVM :) |
| 11:00.29 | _jmz_ | AVRS: but i didn't make an extended partition =S |
| 11:00.36 | AVRS | _jmz_: "logical swap"? |
| 11:00.55 | _jmz_ | sorry, as in, not it's logical, and type swap |
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| 11:01.03 | babilen | _jmz_: You have to create *two* primary if you want that. A logical one is always "inside" an extended one. |
| 11:01.32 | _jmz_ | oh right |
| 11:01.54 | babilen | But I don't see the problem with your setup. I would personally use LVM, but ymmv |
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| 11:02.36 | _jmz_ | well i'm just paritioning a drive and running debootstrap on it so i can stick it in another machine |
| 11:02.51 | _jmz_ | cba to set up LVM like this, cos I can see myself running into problems |
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| 11:03.12 | casts | ponders putting / on iscsi |
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| 11:12.03 | dak221 | is there a way to get a list of listening ports without using awk? example.. netstat -an |grep LISTEN |grep -v ING |grep '0.0.0.0' |awk {'print $4'} |
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| 11:12.26 | TheAvatar | When using a preseed file for debian6 inst, I have problems with the swap partition. It gets insanely huge like 48-66GB. I tried various combinations in the preseed file. Any ideas of what I am missing? 2048 2048 2048 linux-swap $defaultignore{ } $lvmok{ } method{ swap } format{ } . |
| 11:12.33 | TheAvatar | I also tried the default from the example files 64 512 300% |
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| 11:13.57 | sep | TheAvatar, what partition did you set as your open ended one ? |
| 11:14.49 | sep | TheAvatar, i usualy use /home ; or if you need free lvm space after the install, you need to shrink one. or create a dummy partition that is open ended, and remove that afterwards |
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| 11:15.10 | TheAvatar | sep, so the last one you list in the recipe is the "special one"? |
| 11:15.38 | TheAvatar | sep, I have this one currently: http://pastebin.com/A5BPeteL |
| 11:15.56 | sep | not sure if that is a rule. but you should have one have bigh enoufh size to fill the disk |
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| 11:17.24 | TheAvatar | let me try adjust a few things here, maybe that is what goes wrong after all |
| 11:17.26 | sep | that second raid should be big enough to fill the disk right ? |
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| 11:19.30 | patrykr | hey |
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| 11:20.06 | patrykr | can someone help me with debian routng? |
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| 11:20.41 | TheAvatar | sep, yep |
| 11:20.52 | TheAvatar | bet it is just because my ext3 (/) is too small, then the swap fills up the raid |
| 11:20.53 | patrykr | i have 2 interfaces both static, dhcp working |
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| 11:21.09 | patrykr | but i cant ping from client to internet |
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| 11:39.26 | patrykr | can anyone can tell me how to setup debian router step by step? |
| 11:39.40 | abrotman | patrykr: netfilter.org has pretty good documents |
| 11:39.50 | petemc | install debian, install ipmasq |
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| 11:40.07 | abrotman | ipmasq is gone :( |
| 11:40.11 | abrotman | judd: versions ipmasq |
| 11:40.12 | judd | Package ipmasq on i386 -- lenny: 4.0.8-7 |
| 11:40.18 | petemc | hmm, thats not much good |
| 11:40.26 | petemc | is there a replacement in squeeze? |
| 11:40.35 | patrykr | i have squeeze, 2 interfaces |
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| 11:40.49 | abrotman | petemc: Daniel's argument was that there are many things to replace ipmasq :( |
| 11:40.53 | patrykr | clients ->switch->debian->router with modem |
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| 11:41.12 | petemc | abrotman: shorewall etc? fair enough |
| 11:41.25 | abrotman | petemc: i think his original suggestion was raw iptables ... |
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| 11:41.41 | petemc | thats hardly a drop in replacement for ipmasq |
| 11:42.02 | patrykr | clients recive IPs and rest |
| 11:42.14 | patrykr | clients can ping both server interfaces |
| 11:42.29 | patrykr | but i cant ping from server to clients |
| 11:42.37 | abrotman | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/04/msg00303.html |
| 11:42.56 | abrotman | and then jordanm suggests iptables :) |
| 11:43.10 | abrotman | let me see if i can find the original complaint |
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| 11:45.39 | abrotman | gives up |
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| 11:46.34 | fishsponge | hey people - is "ntpdate" the package I need to set my system time from NTP servers? If so, where is it's config file?? |
| 11:46.42 | abrotman | http://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls .. may list a few |
| 11:46.46 | fishsponge | or is there a more widely used package for this than "ntpdate"? |
| 11:46.48 | abrotman | fishsponge: the ntp package is better |
| 11:46.55 | fishsponge | ah, ok... ntp it is! |
| 11:47.48 | fishsponge | fantastic - works perfectly! |
| 11:47.54 | fishsponge | thanks abrotman! |
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| 11:56.56 | patrykr | adding rules for iptables fix the problem thx |
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| 11:58.48 | spcck | hi! i installed a RT kernel from pengutronix repo, i wanna compile an nvidia kernel module and it runs to : /usr/src/nv/nv.c:3030: error: ânv_linux_state_tâ has no member named âldata_lockâ |
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| 11:59.21 | spcck | i have the sources, the headers, the common headers, build-essentil |
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| 11:59.42 | spcck | im using the same compier what it needs |
| 11:59.56 | abrotman | how is this related to Debian ? |
| 12:00.58 | spcck | they applied the debian patches, so its basically a debian kernel |
| 12:01.24 | abrotman | but .. not |
| 12:01.35 | spcck | but..but... |
| 12:01.41 | spcck | wai? |
| 12:03.21 | Dewi | is there a way I can bring up a PPP interface but restrict its use to certain users or processes? |
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| 12:04.02 | Dewi | (or any kind of VPN) |
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| 12:06.10 | emaia | Hello. I have a machine with a CPU AMD Opteron and i see one core (core 4) every time with 100% and the others cores without load.. The problem is the machine load... 10.00 |
| 12:06.24 | abrotman | emaia: what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 12:06.42 | emaia | 2.6.30.10-586-smp |
| 12:06.50 | abrotman | where did you get that kernel? |
| 12:07.15 | emaia | abrotman: i compiled it |
| 12:07.39 | abrotman | does the problem happen with a Debian packaged kernel ? |
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| 12:09.01 | emaia | abrotman: i don't know. this kernel was compiled because some voip issues.. |
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| 12:09.14 | emaia | i need to work with this kernel |
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| 12:09.28 | emaia | how i cann see the processs in this core? |
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| 12:10.59 | jelly | emaia: the load average isn't really important if your apps work. |
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| 12:13.55 | TheAvatar | sep, it works; thanks for your info |
| 12:14.45 | kuhkatz | emaia, htop can show you which core a process runs on, you have to tell htop to do so though |
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| 12:21.17 | Dewi | is there a paravirtualization option that will not require reconfiguration of my host system? |
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| 12:22.15 | petemc | qemu |
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| 12:38.22 | korozion | does anyone have a good document for downgrading php on squeeze? |
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| 12:40.07 | abrotman | why? |
| 12:40.14 | abrotman | i mean .. why do you want to downgrade? |
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| 12:40.36 | korozion | 5.3 broke a bunch of things that I need more time to fix |
| 12:40.37 | Radex | korozion: best solution is to run 5.2 paralleal with 5.3 like cgi for dedicated VH or Directory |
| 12:40.47 | korozion | hrm, that makes sense |
| 12:40.55 | korozion | could you point me in the right direction? |
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| 12:41.12 | themill | !php paradox |
| 12:41.13 | dpkg | The PHP paradox is that the people running lenny with php 5.2 want to have php 5.3... while the people running squeeze with php 5.3 want to have php 5.2. This is actually a sad indictment of both php and the applications written in it. |
| 12:41.13 | abrotman | thinks one would have tested before upgrading ... |
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| 12:41.59 | ttiicc | what are you doing today guysw |
| 12:41.59 | Radex | korozion: priv |
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| 12:46.08 | path | hey debians :) |
| 12:46.24 | path | If I do du -sh /partition it shows 25 GB but If I do df -h it shows 29GB on the used column. How can it be possible?. |
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| 12:47.38 | Radex | path: http://serverfault.com/questions/57098/du-vs-df-difference |
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| 12:56.50 | arcsky | hello i got little problem with jumboframes pc-to-pc both have mtu 9000 and ping pc -s 1472 works but not -s 1473 |
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| 12:58.15 | Rienzilla | arcsky: possibly your switch doesn't support jumbo frames? |
| 12:58.28 | Rienzilla | or are they connected with a crosscable |
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| 12:59.40 | arcsky | Rienzilla: i have pc-to-pc |
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| 13:00.04 | Rienzilla | is it possible a nic can't do jumbo frames? |
| 13:00.25 | arcsky | i must have a switch ? |
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| 13:01.28 | tolle_ | Rienzilla: Ofcourse. |
| 13:01.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps what java package should i use in debian lenny for a server? |
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| 13:01.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | sun? |
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| 13:02.20 | dvs | Eryn_1983_FL: you choice. I like "Sun" personally |
| 13:02.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 13:02.38 | Rienzilla | arcsky: no, not necessarily |
| 13:02.43 | jelly | ,versions sun-java6-bin |
| 13:02.45 | judd | Package sun-java6-bin on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 6-22-0lenny1; squeeze/non-free: 6.24-1~squeeze1; sid/non-free: 6.24-1; wheezy/non-free: 6.24-1 |
| 13:02.45 | Rienzilla | but it might be your nic then? |
| 13:03.11 | jelly | hmph, no security update for lenny? |
| 13:03.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 13:03.19 | korozion | thanks again! |
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| 13:04.15 | arcsky | Rienzilla: Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: e1000 version: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI i have |
| 13:04.51 | Rienzilla | hmm e1000 should have no problem |
| 13:05.04 | Rienzilla | both are e1000's? |
| 13:05.56 | Eryn_1983_FL | why dont i see it judd |
| 13:06.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got non-free in my repos and i update and i still see no sun-java. |
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| 13:06.28 | cityLights | hi |
| 13:06.41 | cityLights | i want to use ppp0 as the default gateway, but use eth0 for openvpn communication port 1194 |
| 13:06.49 | cityLights | how? |
| 13:07.10 | casts | iptables+route |
| 13:07.43 | casts | and what traffic would go over tun0? |
| 13:07.50 | cityLights | ok, need mark the traffic to port 1194? |
| 13:08.25 | cityLights | oh this can be left un-touched |
| 13:08.51 | cityLights | I use the vpn device , just to access the remote pc |
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| 13:09.03 | jelly | Eryn_1983_FL: judd is a bot. Does eg. "apt-cache policy sun-java6-jdk" return no packages available for installation? |
| 13:09.15 | gnugr | casts: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
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| 13:09.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok .. |
| 13:09.29 | cityLights | I know how to use iptables |
| 13:09.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | yes |
| 13:09.38 | wissem | hello |
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| 13:09.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | i will show the sources in apt |
| 13:10.08 | wissem | any help for creating an ssh network between mac and debian ? |
| 13:10.20 | cityLights | traffic coming in to the server arrives to port 1194, BUT outgoing trafffic goes to a rnadom port |
| 13:10.27 | casts | gnugr: aha? |
| 13:10.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | nm the non-free was on volatile.. |
| 13:10.50 | cityLights | I want that traffic to be routed to eth0 |
| 13:10.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | got it ty |
| 13:11.47 | cityLights | how can I route traffic to eth0, while I dont know what port it is? |
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| 13:14.29 | cityLights | iptables -j MARK --set-mark 3 -p udp --dport 1194 ? |
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| 13:16.09 | gnugr | wissem: type " ifconfig " to see each comp's ip, then: ssh -l user <ip>, then passwd, done |
| 13:16.58 | wissem | gnugr: i dont need to setup anything ? |
| 13:17.07 | Bushmills | cityLights: can't you simply set a route to openvpn server? |
| 13:17.09 | wissem | on mac side ? |
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| 13:17.26 | gnugr | wissem: both |
| 13:17.49 | gnugr | wissem: but you must open ports 80 and 22 |
| 13:17.51 | cityLights | Bushmills: how? |
| 13:17.52 | Bushmills | ah, that *is* the server you're having the problem with? |
| 13:18.37 | Sicelo | hi everyone |
| 13:18.39 | bonjoyee | i have dge-530t gigabit ethernet..but i can only get 100mbps...when connected to another laptop that has a gb ethernet as well...where do i start troubleshooting? |
| 13:18.46 | wissem | gnugr: okay ty :) |
| 13:18.57 | gnugr | wissem: download nmap to see if pors are open |
| 13:19.01 | cityLights | I dont know the remote IP address, hust that it will coming to port 1194 |
| 13:19.42 | Sicelo | i have a cdma/evdo usb modem (zte ac2766), and running debian 6.0.0. it is correctly identified via usb_modeswitch, and i can surf the net |
| 13:20.30 | Sicelo | however, i also need to be able to place calls through the modem, because that's the only way to load airtime.. |
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| 13:20.38 | Sicelo | any recommendations? |
| 13:20.56 | jae | My bind doesn't want to listen to ipv6... no changes to default config that I'm aware of (it has the default listen-on-v6 { any } stanza) |
| 13:20.58 | Sicelo | is not afraid to tinker with the system, cli, etc :) |
| 13:21.01 | jae | What can I check? |
| 13:21.29 | gnugr | wissen: to see with nmap if ports are open type: sudo nmap -p0 -sS <external ip> |
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| 13:23.24 | casts | gnugr: eh...sudo isn't setup by default in debian |
| 13:23.30 | nevyn | do I need to be a dd to send a close to control@bugs? |
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| 13:23.51 | nevyn | I accidentally reported a bug twice |
| 13:24.06 | nevyn | well reportbug kept segfaulting so I didn't think it submitted |
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| 13:24.52 | gnugr | casts: i have sudo on my squeeze as well |
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| 13:25.55 | bdheeman | jae: what says your netstat -6 -nlp |
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| 13:27.52 | dreamer | anyone know why debian.org is down? |
| 13:28.15 | Radex | ask admin ;) |
| 13:28.34 | gnugr | dreamer: works for me |
| 13:29.11 | dvs | dreamer: works for me. |
| 13:29.42 | Sicelo | dreamer: i think your network is bad.. i have the same problem, but i have found that it's just client-side problem |
| 13:29.57 | bdheeman | dreamer: working/accessible here also |
| 13:30.07 | Sicelo | in fact, debian.org always takes longest to load for me.. :( |
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| 13:30.22 | jae | bdheeman: stuff :D There's no :53 in sight in the output... only a mysterious :123 (have to check what that is) |
| 13:30.26 | dreamer | hmm, yeah friends say it works as well .. somehow I can't connect to the site from this host |
| 13:30.29 | dreamer | db.debian.org works fine |
| 13:30.40 | dreamer | I can ping, but http I can't connect |
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| 13:31.02 | dreamer | and now it does .. |
| 13:31.12 | bdheeman | joe6: 123 is ntp |
| 13:31.16 | dreamer | ok, weird |
| 13:31.57 | bdheeman | joe: is named running? |
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| 13:33.14 | jae | bdheeman: named is running (I see the :53 when I leave off -6...) |
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| 13:33.22 | Sicelo | hopes it's ok to repeat his question now :-/ |
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| 13:33.39 | Sicelo | i have a cdma/evdo usb modem (zte ac2766), and running debian 6.0.0. it is correctly identified via usb_modeswitch, and i can surf the net |
| 13:33.52 | Sicelo | however, i also need to be able to place calls through the modem, because that's the only way to load airtime.. |
| 13:33.58 | Sicelo | any recommendations? |
| 13:34.03 | Sicelo | is not afraid to tinker with the system, cli, etc :) |
| 13:34.39 | bdheeman | jae: try route -6 or ip -6 route |
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| 13:34.54 | lweight | hello |
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| 13:35.14 | bdheeman | jae: I mean, is IPv6 enabled on your system? |
| 13:35.22 | lweight | wondering if someone could point me at up to date info on manually pairing a BT mouse in Debian 6? |
| 13:35.30 | lweight | hidd is no more it seems... |
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| 13:37.25 | jae | bdheeman: do an nmap -6 jaerhard.com ;-) (Yes, it is enabled, or I wouldn't ask... bind is the last holdout, everything else does v6 properly) |
| 13:38.19 | bdheeman | jae: plz look at the bind/named's logs |
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| 13:39.01 | krmX | hi all, I am trying to install squeeze in virtualbox, but both lilo and grub fail with an error message stating that package cannot be installed into /target |
| 13:39.13 | krmX | has anyone managed to install squeeze in virtualbox? |
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| 13:40.46 | jae | bdheeman: ah, thx... well, "No IPv6 interfaces found" probably shouldn't be there... |
| 13:40.58 | gnugr | krmX: is file with .iso? |
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| 13:41.13 | krmX | gnugr: I am isntalling from DVD |
| 13:41.17 | krmX | *installing |
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| 13:41.45 | daedhel | is there any OP in here? |
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| 13:42.01 | bdheeman | jae: ping6 jaerhard.com worked here; strange |
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| 13:42.33 | gnugr | krmX: target must be cdrom though |
| 13:43.22 | gnugr | kermX: as far i know must be in .iso mode |
| 13:43.36 | flamingspinach | Question: Using /etc/apt/preferences I've pinned all packages in "release a=testing" to priority 1005 and after that all packages in "release o=Debian" to priority -10 |
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| 13:43.48 | flamingspinach | however, `apt-cache policy` tells me that testing is only pinned to level 990 |
| 13:43.51 | flamingspinach | why is this? |
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| 13:44.23 | flamingspinach | (the reason I'm doing this weird pinning is that I seem to have "polluted" my system with some packages from unstable and even experimental, and I want to downgrade to what's in wheezy) |
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| 13:46.56 | daedhel | also, automounting in Sid with pcmanfm give a "Not authorized" error |
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| 13:49.21 | gnugr | !which repo |
| 13:49.21 | dpkg | To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository , or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bdo list>, or <dmm list> |
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| 13:51.21 | halin | I have installed a program using .run script |
| 13:51.33 | halin | How can I uninstall it ? |
| 13:51.34 | flamingspinach | gnugr: sorry, was that for me? |
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| 13:55.21 | flamingspinach | for reference, here's what things look like in /etc/apt : http://pastebin.com/2mq2pKt3 |
| 13:57.48 | karlpinc | !tell krmX about virtualbox |
| 13:57.58 | karlpinc | krmX: Something in there might help, or not. |
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| 14:03.19 | superlinux | hi. there is someone who is asking on our forum this: every time he reboots his system the /dev/ttyUSB(n) (n is a number) points to a different device other than what he requires. so how can he fix this? |
| 14:04.10 | superlinux | hi. there is someone who is asking on our forum this: every time he reboots his system the /dev/ttyUSB(n) (n is a number) points to a different device other than what he assigned first. so how can he fix this? (re-phrasing) |
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| 14:04.44 | krmX | karplinc: thanks a lot |
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| 14:11.59 | erAbuelo | buenas tardes |
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| 14:12.52 | hulowa | hello everyone. |
| 14:13.38 | gnugr | buenas tardes amigo |
| 14:13.45 | hulowa | I try to play a video but cannot play and error occurs like this how to fix?http://code.bulix.org/earbeh-79606 |
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| 14:15.53 | superlinux | hi. there is someone who is asking on our forum this: every time he reboots his system the /dev/ttyUSB(n) (n is a number) points to a different device other than what he assigned first. so how can he fix this? he is on 10.4 |
| 14:16.01 | superlinux | sorry! |
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| 14:16.25 | superlinux | feels guilty |
| 14:17.09 | Sebus | Escherial: what r u doin :P |
| 14:17.27 | achadwick | superlinux: http://noctis.de/archives/16-HowTo-fixed-name-for-a-udev-device.html any use? |
| 14:17.30 | Sebus | aww fail |
| 14:17.32 | Sebus | runs |
| 14:17.42 | superlinux | achadwick, ok thanks |
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| 14:21.23 | gnugr | hulowa: you dont have permissions on the file you want to play, check out permissions |
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| 14:22.03 | Ginko_san | hi |
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| 14:22.50 | gnugr | !permissions |
| 14:22.50 | dpkg | For information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions', http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html . For further information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and follow the setuid and setgid links within. See also <ssh permissions>, <qotd232>. http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
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| 14:24.09 | Ginko_san | i have a server under debian 5, and yesterday the date changed alone acording to the daylight system, the problem is, i want to control when the date is updated, so i looked for a ntpdate cron, but i cannot find one, so i don't even understand how the date could change alone... |
| 14:24.45 | Ginko_san | i tried to look for command history, but i just can find .bash_history who contain only shell command |
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| 14:26.49 | karlpinc | Ginko_san: You tell the system your time zone and it knows the daylight savings time from the info in the tzdata package. If you want absolute control you'll have to create your own time zone and use that. |
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| 14:27.39 | karlpinc | Ginko_san: The tzdata package is regularly updated as governments change the rules so you'll want to upgrade to the latest version (and get security updates) to keep up to date with current changes. |
| 14:28.00 | dvs | There was a tzdata update this year already |
| 14:28.10 | karlpinc | dvs: Several I thought. |
| 14:28.12 | Ginko_san | hum, ok, because the time change append around 20h22, and i want it to change in the morning, when there is no user using the system |
| 14:28.19 | dvs | karlpinc: probably |
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| 14:28.55 | karlpinc | Ginko_san: I would think it would change when the government says it should change.... |
| 14:29.15 | dvs | sighs at gov't |
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| 14:29.32 | Ginko_san | well, the official time to change was at 2am |
| 14:29.50 | karlpinc | Ginko_san: Is your system up to date? |
| 14:29.56 | Ginko_san | yes |
| 14:30.18 | karlpinc | Ginko_san: Perhaps you should file a bug report against tzdata. |
| 14:30.42 | karlpinc | Ginko_san: (Although it's a little late now. :) |
| 14:30.47 | Ginko_san | :) |
| 14:31.15 | Ginko_san | is there a way to know the configuration of my tzdata to know when it was suposed to change the date ? |
| 14:31.15 | karlpinc | Ginko_san: Still, it wouldn't hurt to tell them in case they're making a systemic mistake. |
| 14:31.35 | karlpinc | Ginko_san: Yes, but I don't know what it is. You'll have to RTFM. |
| 14:31.42 | Ginko_san | yes |
| 14:31.47 | Ginko_san | thanks for the help |
| 14:33.17 | gnugr | debconf or debconf-2.0 are not related to tzdata? |
| 14:33.35 | oxman | Do you know where i can found a computer all in one, with tactile screen to put in on a wall for a dashboard monitoring ? |
| 14:33.56 | Ginko_san | in a shop ? |
| 14:34.05 | Ginko_san | :p |
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| 14:34.30 | SPF | oxman: I think it's better to ask in #hardware |
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| 14:34.41 | dvs | oxman: HP? Sony? They have all-in-one units. |
| 14:34.42 | oxman | thanks :) |
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| 14:35.14 | gnugr | oxman: latest Dell with debian-squeeze on |
| 14:35.40 | oxman | do you have a link ? :) |
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| 14:36.09 | runciter | does anybody use the debian.uchicago.edu apt mirror? did its public key change? |
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| 14:36.44 | HerrBlume | I want to give users the ability to restart the network interfaces |
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| 14:38.03 | alexb_1 | hi all, I need to create pdf file with menu(chapters etc) . is there such soft in squeeze? thanks. |
| 14:39.05 | HerrBlume | tex can create pdfs, and there is the html docbook stuff |
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| 14:39.23 | gnugr | HerrBlume: alow user's ability to use sudo |
| 14:40.07 | HerrBlume | gnugr: thats it? no suid? |
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| 14:40.48 | gnugr | HerrBlume: try it |
| 14:40.57 | HerrBlume | gnugr: ok |
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| 15:04.46 | atomx | do you know how can I open a distant connection on a tty ? Instead of running getty, I want to run a login on another machine... is that possible? |
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| 15:06.52 | Bushmills | atomx: ssh |
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| 15:09.09 | atomx | Bushmills: how can I configure init program for a distant connection via ssh ? |
| 15:09.13 | atomx | this is my question |
| 15:09.38 | atomx | instead of opening a connection via login, I want to open a connection via ssh... |
| 15:09.45 | weltall | wth? |
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| 15:10.00 | lweight | hello |
| 15:10.03 | Bushmills | not sure what your goal is, but the answer would probably be "run a text editor, and modify the configuration files according your needs" |
| 15:10.12 | atomx | i leave |
| 15:10.24 | lweight | could any offer advice for setting up a bluetooth mouse on Squeeze? |
| 15:10.39 | weltall | why not running ssh as last part of the load scripts? |
| 15:10.48 | atomx | if somebody can tell me what should I write in inittab or /etc/init.d, please answer me . |
| 15:10.53 | atomx | i go |
| 15:11.17 | ignotusp | who's highlight me? |
| 15:11.25 | weltall | the spammer above |
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| 15:15.05 | adan0s | is there a way to exclude harddisks/partitions from being scanned bei grub-mkconfig/update-grub? or including just defined partitions? |
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| 15:15.30 | nevyn | do it by hand. |
| 15:16.56 | adan0s | well okay, that should be possible |
| 15:17.23 | nevyn | device hd0 /dev/pathtodevice |
| 15:17.31 | adan0s | short hint on where to disabling update-grub vom executing when doing kernel-updates? |
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| 15:31.40 | abrotman | looks at LoRez ... |
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| 15:34.18 | Dewi | CD |
| 15:34.27 | Dewi | oops |
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| 15:35.30 | sylar | what's the deal with package authentication? |
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| 15:35.50 | sylar | for some reason it warns me about it |
| 15:36.11 | joltcan | sylar: All packages are signed, so you need to have the debian keyring installed |
| 15:36.48 | sylar | I think I have it installed |
| 15:36.49 | sylar | :/ |
| 15:36.53 | babilen | debian-archive-keyring in particular |
| 15:36.58 | sylar | double-checking |
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| 15:38.41 | joltcan | sylar: /msg dpkg apt-secure |
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| 15:38.51 | joltcan | sylar: Or just read http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
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| 15:41.33 | sylar | k thanks joltcan babilen |
| 15:41.48 | babilen | thanks, I needed a can of Jolt |
| 15:43.10 | bluesceada | wah |
| 15:43.22 | CoreTex-51861 | why does heartbeat doesn't exist in squeeze kfreebsd-amd64 ??? |
| 15:43.28 | bluesceada | anyone has a thinkpad and got his fn+f5 "correctly" mapped? |
| 15:43.39 | bluesceada | (x61 thinkpad to be specific) |
| 15:43.49 | babilen | bluesceada: works fine here on my t60 |
| 15:43.54 | bluesceada | i seem to cant remap it... |
| 15:44.00 | bluesceada | it always does enable/disable wireless |
| 15:44.12 | bluesceada | but why would i want that if i have a killswitch at the bottom front anyway... |
| 15:44.21 | bluesceada | so i want it to ONLY enable/disable bluetooth.. |
| 15:44.35 | bluesceada | it's even called XF86Bluetooth if you look with xev ... |
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| 15:45.05 | bluesceada | babilen: got it remapped to something? |
| 15:45.11 | babilen | nope |
| 15:45.13 | bluesceada | there is nothing in /etc/acpi anymore that could do it .. |
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| 15:49.05 | babilen | bluesceada: You know: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work ? |
| 15:49.31 | bluesceada | probably read it some time ago, but thanks for pointing it out again, maybe i find something there.. |
| 15:49.41 | joltcan | babilen: Who doesnt! :) |
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| 15:50.15 | bluesceada | hal or acpid .. ah i nearly forgot hal, it's still in squeeze .. hm.. |
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| 15:58.19 | bluesceada | babilen: cant find anything that might help it seems :S |
| 15:58.32 | bluesceada | it's no program in X causing it, of that i am sure |
| 15:59.25 | diago | bluesceada: I had an option for what the switch did in my bios on my Dell, don't know if you have checked there |
| 15:59.31 | bluesceada | and the howto only adresses how to get them to be recognized at all, some pointers to where the daemons/listeners are seem to miss |
| 15:59.48 | bluesceada | no the bios doesn't has such a switch |
| 16:00.18 | bluesceada | would be so nice if it would just switch bluetooth on/off ... |
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| 16:01.29 | bluesceada | maybe it's hard-builtin in the thinkpad_acpi module ... |
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| 16:15.55 | cobe571 | hello everyone, I need to transfer files from cellphone to computer via bluetooth. unfortunately I see that the gnome obex server is no longer available. what do you recommend? |
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| 16:33.42 | superlinux | hi. There are those Advanced Projector executable files which are flash movies in a EXE extensions. How can I watch them? |
| 16:34.07 | petemc | you could try wine |
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| 16:36.02 | sickgut | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.11 | sickgut | ii7 = i7 |
| 16:36.46 | jarray52 | What memory allocator library does Debian squeeze use? Does it use libc, libhoard, or something else? |
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| 16:37.07 | lneely | according to a post on experts-exchange, if you remove the first 0x5C000 bytes with a hex editor |
| 16:37.13 | lneely | you're left with just the swf file. |
| 16:37.19 | superlinux | petan, ain't there an extractor? |
| 16:37.51 | lneely | can't confirm or deny that, but you might try it. |
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| 16:39.50 | lneely | sickgut: have you tried X -configure? |
| 16:39.51 | petemc | superlinux: no idea, i just made an offhand suggestion |
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| 16:40.10 | superlinux | petemc, no problemo |
| 16:40.30 | lneely | superlinux, try removing the first 0x5C000 bytes (make a backup copy of course) |
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| 16:41.20 | lilith | hi all |
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| 16:41.59 | superlinux | lneely, have you ever done that? |
| 16:42.16 | lneely | superlinux, no. i just saw a post on experts-exchange that suggests it works. |
| 16:42.25 | lilith | is there a repository to install the google video & voice deb? |
| 16:42.42 | sickgut | lneely >(EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbolNumber of created screens does not match number of detected devices.Configuration failed. |
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| 16:43.01 | lilith | Or is it available only from google's corresponding page? |
| 16:43.04 | lneely | sickgut, ah, i had that too. but i think there was still an xorg.conf in the root directory? |
| 16:43.15 | lneely | if so, that is a pretty good starting point. |
| 16:43.30 | sickgut | like an example xorg.conf |
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| 16:43.43 | superlinux | lneely, so can 'dd' do it for me? |
| 16:44.00 | lneely | superlinux, i would probably use a hex editor... but maybe. |
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| 16:44.34 | superlinux | on ##flash I am recommended to use a hex editor. |
| 16:44.39 | lneely | ok. |
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| 16:45.12 | superlinux | what editor you'd recommend? |
| 16:45.34 | lneely | ghex is as good as any |
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| 16:45.46 | superlinux | ah ok |
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| 16:46.51 | sickgut | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.55 | lneely | yw |
| 16:46.59 | lneely | good luck |
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| 16:51.00 | jae | My bind doesn't want to listen to ipv6... no changes to default config that I'm aware of (it has the default listen-on-v6 { any } stanza) What to check? |
| 16:51.13 | superlinux | thanks all |
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| 16:51.19 | jae | asked this earlier, but maybe now someone's on who knows |
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| 16:51.44 | jae | All I found googling today is a bug in 9.5, but sid (which the server is running) has 9.7.x |
| 16:51.54 | jae | So that bug should be fixed... |
| 16:52.09 | jhutchins_lt | A server running sid... |
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| 16:56.59 | homie | i got a lyx::doAssert failure with lyx-2.0 from source, does anyone happen to have the same failure shown when run in debian ? |
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| 17:00.38 | justin | judd: versions lyx |
| 17:00.40 | judd | Package lyx on i386 -- lenny: 1.5.5-1; lenny-backports: 1.6.7-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.6.7-1; sid: 2.0.0~rc1-1; wheezy: 2.0.0~rc1-1 |
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| 17:09.06 | faustisch | Where does "apt-get update" store the URLs of packages? |
| 17:09.32 | abrotman | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:09.51 | themill | faustisch: #ubuntu is for ubuntu questions; there's no such thing as a "generic apt question". |
| 17:10.24 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 17:10.30 | jelly-home | themill: there is such a thing as a generic apt question. However there is no channel available for that topic. |
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| 17:10.54 | themill | jelly-home: not by the time apt gets heavily patched, there isn't |
| 17:11.22 | jelly-home | it's not apt-rpm |
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| 17:12.18 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: even worse, a server running bind |
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| 17:14.45 | bhankins | I did a just a tasksel desktop install without doing the install optional packages over the internet option at install time and I am missing a bunch of the optional packages that an install with that option had. Is there something I can run to get all those at once? |
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| 17:15.43 | justin | bhankins: run tasksel again? |
| 17:15.55 | smacnay | My buttons and shadows have become "blocky" looking in Gnome. Is there a particular gtk lib responsible for these graphics? I am running in 24bit colour and all else except bevels on buttons and shadows looks fine. |
| 17:16.01 | unixSnob | how smoothly does a firefox tarball installation go, when there's a pre-existing old iceweasel in place? |
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| 17:16.24 | unixSnob | will firefox "upgrade" iceweasel? |
| 17:16.31 | justin | unixSnob: smooth enough. probably want to back up your ~/.mozilla |
| 17:16.35 | justin | unixSnob: no |
| 17:16.51 | jhutchins_lt | unixSnob: Mozilla installs are notoriously random and chaotic. |
| 17:17.04 | unixSnob | okay, ty for the heads up |
| 17:17.10 | justin | lol, it's just mozilla, it's not like it is libc :) |
| 17:17.20 | justin | worst case you nuke it from orbit |
| 17:17.33 | calzifer | hi, i'm thinking about using fail2ban on my vserver, but i'm worried, that the iptables could cram my logs so my server starts to get highload, i had that experience |
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| 17:17.44 | justin | calzifer: what do you plan on fail2ban'ing? |
| 17:17.45 | bhankins | Uhh no, tasksel just remove all the stuff I manually added like the network-manager gnome packages and stuff. |
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| 17:18.00 | calzifer | justin: "secure" ssh, apache and vsftp |
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| 17:18.25 | justin | don't run ssh on port 22, that'll cut down on your logs |
| 17:19.00 | calzifer | its already running on a different port |
| 17:19.19 | justin | then I doubt you will have that problem |
| 17:19.30 | calzifer | or how can i make fail2ban stop iptables logging? |
| 17:19.41 | calzifer | because my dmesg was cramed |
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| 17:20.47 | jhutchins_lt | justin: Using iptables throttling is usually very effective. |
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| 17:22.02 | smacnay | where can images be pasted to? pastebin of some sort? |
| 17:22.07 | justin | smacnay: images? |
| 17:22.23 | smacnay | justin, If I want someone to see a problem visually. |
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| 17:22.34 | justin | imgur? |
| 17:22.47 | calzifer | justin: are you using fail2ban? |
| 17:22.56 | smacnay | justin, I mentioned my bevels and shadows are all wonky and viewing it might be more benficial than reading a description. |
| 17:22.58 | faustisch | smacnay, imageshack.us |
| 17:23.00 | justin | calzifer: nope |
| 17:23.06 | smacnay | faustisch, thanks |
| 17:23.13 | calzifer | justin: why? any iptables? |
| 17:23.13 | justin | non standard ports+firewall+port knocking |
| 17:23.17 | calzifer | ok |
| 17:23.38 | calzifer | how did you configure your firewall? |
| 17:24.02 | justin | calzifer: firewall script linked into /etc/network/if-up.d/ |
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| 17:24.54 | smacnay | The picture of my buttons and shadows is here: any thoughts on why this is looking so bad are welcomed. |
| 17:24.57 | smacnay | http://img846.imageshack.us/i/screenshot001r.png/ |
| 17:25.22 | justin | smacnay: tried changing your gtk theme? |
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| 17:25.36 | justin | smacnay: or did you maybe enable the 'high contract' accessibility stuff? |
| 17:25.54 | justin | smacnay: I were you I'd add a test user account and see if that has the same problem |
| 17:26.10 | smacnay | justin, no, I haven't and I recently removed the high contrast stuff. Although I think that I had played around with that right before this started happening. |
| 17:26.29 | smacnay | justin, thanks - I have one already - I will switch and see |
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| 17:28.02 | smacnay | justin, well, there is no issue with another user's account. |
| 17:28.14 | smacnay | justin, now to track down what needs to be changed. |
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| 17:33.01 | tobNoOne | hello dose someone here know how to uninstall the TGZ pkg from the rubygems site? |
| 17:33.05 | tobNoOne | I am trying to follow this: http://serverfault.com/questions/118462/how-do-you-uninstall-the-rubygem-application |
| 17:33.10 | tobNoOne | but it seams to get stuck |
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| 17:36.55 | abrotman | there are quite a few Ruby channels, probably better to ask there |
| 17:37.24 | tobNoOne | ok |
| 17:38.05 | tobNoOne | I tought it was more of a package thing |
| 17:39.00 | jhutchins_lt | tobNoOne: Not if you installed it from a tarball. Only if it was a .deb. |
| 17:39.12 | tobNoOne | jhutchins_lt: Ok |
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| 17:41.16 | Hydroxide | (and only if it was a deb from debian - not that the ruby community is likely to provide debs anyway) |
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| 18:00.29 | smacnay | What are common reasons for statd to fail on a reload? |
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| 18:03.12 | jhutchins_lt | smacnay: You're assuming it's common for statd to fail on a reload. |
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| 18:03.57 | unixSnob | anyone know if there's a way to update iceweasel on ETCH to version 3.0 or later? |
| 18:04.07 | unixSnob | looks like 2.0 is the latest |
| 18:04.14 | smacnay | jhutchins, hehe, right now I am assuming nothing but have not seen this happen before. |
| 18:04.47 | jhutchins_lt | unixSnob: Is there a reason not to update the whole system? |
| 18:05.31 | ompaul | smacnay: I have a fair bit of nfs and I don't see that, the one and only time I had a problem with nfs was when the nfs server didn't reboot and lots of handles due to a network failure got very stale, all nfs clients restarted gave a semblance of normality |
| 18:05.44 | unixSnob | jhutchins_lt: yes, I do not take "dist-upgrade" lightly.. I've seen that command trash countless manhours. I will upgrade, but I will do it with great caution.. multiple backups first |
| 18:06.05 | unixSnob | i'm not to a point where I can upgrade the whole system yet |
| 18:06.29 | unixSnob | my current system is a very fragile balance of many hacks |
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| 18:08.08 | ompaul | unixSnob: last etch box retired in 08 so I guess I have no answers for that one |
| 18:08.41 | ompaul | august 02 at 12:45 BST |
| 18:08.45 | unixSnob | i'm thinking there might be a backport.. i'm not quite sure how to check though |
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| 18:09.57 | ompaul | unixSnob: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch |
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| 18:11.02 | unixSnob | ompaul: I think it died after FF3 was out |
| 18:12.10 | jelly-home | unixSnob: why do you need a web browser on that old machine? |
| 18:12.29 | jelly-home | unixSnob: I'm assuming the etch system is a server. |
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| 18:13.00 | ompaul | unixSnob: fragile hacks and security don't go hand in hand |
| 18:14.10 | unixSnob | ompaul: I had to compile shit to make it work.. and change some C code.. some things are just too obscure to end up in a debian repository |
| 18:14.38 | unixSnob | one of my mistakes was to install 64bit stuff |
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| 18:14.59 | unixSnob | I was forced to install a separate 32bit library, along with schroot |
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| 18:15.12 | ompaul | unixSnob: and I guess you could actually do the same again |
| 18:15.20 | unixSnob | so it's quite the frankenstein |
| 18:15.28 | unixSnob | eventually I will |
| 18:15.59 | unixSnob | I will do it after Seagate manufacters the hard drive I'm waiting for |
| 18:16.24 | unixSnob | seagate is holding everythign up |
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| 18:16.39 | unixSnob | (and their inability to know where their products will be sold) |
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| 18:17.13 | ompaul | so you have been waiting for a disk since 09 ;-) |
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| 18:17.24 | Tuinslak | I have this error since upgrading to Squeeze: http://serverfault.com/questions/252261/network-access-issues-after-upgrading-to-squeeze -- non root user cannot access anything related to the networking -- any idea ? |
| 18:17.56 | unixSnob | anyway.. how do I upgrade a single package? apparently "aptitude upgrade iceweasel" won't work |
| 18:18.12 | unixSnob | not sure if it's been since 09.. but a heluva long time |
| 18:18.15 | jelly-home | unixSnob: aptitude install foo |
| 18:18.17 | Tuinslak | apt-get install package |
| 18:18.17 | Pihti | unixSnob: Just install it using aptitude install iceweasel |
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| 18:18.25 | unixSnob | ah, thanks |
| 18:18.43 | jelly-home | unixSnob: and if you're still talking about the etch machine, you're probably going to break it ;-) |
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| 18:19.13 | ompaul | jelly-home: or at least make it wobble severely |
| 18:19.42 | unixSnob | yeah, i'm 'fraid to do much on this thing |
| 18:20.03 | Pihti | Tuinslak: I am not sure about your network trouble, but I THINK it might be related with device permissions |
| 18:20.09 | unixSnob | dist-upgrade would be the neuclear option |
| 18:20.26 | ompaul | unixSnob: and won't work multiple version jumps to todays stable |
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| 18:21.00 | Pihti | ompaul: I would upgrade etch to oldstable, then stable and so on |
| 18:21.03 | unixSnob | what is todays stable anyway? lenny? |
| 18:21.13 | ompaul | squeeze |
| 18:21.15 | jelly-home | lenny is oldstable |
| 18:21.23 | johnny66 | Im using xbmc 10.01 (Dharma), debian unstable, i am using SPDIF/Optical interface for audio and after closing xbmc i cant get audio in firefox, spotify but i can get audio with mplayer any ideas on how to get around this? Also why can only one device use the audio channel at a time when using SPDIF compared to using alsa that supports audio multiplexing |
| 18:21.35 | jelly-home | !xbmc |
| 18:21.36 | dpkg | XBMC Media Centre (formerly Xbox Media Center) is an open source media player application. <ITP> filed in Debian bug #469397; see <dmm> for unofficial packages. "XBMC Live" is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> containing XBMC for Linux, it is not supported in #debian. http://xbmc.org/ #xbmc on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on Debian>. |
| 18:21.39 | ompaul | Pihti: and the time to do a fresh install would in theory be faster and safer |
| 18:21.52 | jelly-home | ,versions xbmc |
| 18:21.54 | judd | Package xbmc on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia: 10.0-0.5; sid-multimedia: 10.1-0.2; wheezy-multimedia: 10.1-0.2 |
| 18:22.04 | Pihti | ompaul: yep |
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| 18:22.32 | ompaul | I note the oldstable comments - however jumping with "fragile hacks" is not a clever idea |
| 18:22.50 | ompaul | and can dig bigger holes - manage the situation - don't let it manage you |
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| 18:23.29 | jelly-home | with just two releases behind, it might be worthwhile to just do the upgrades |
| 18:24.06 | johnny66 | jelly-home, i've built the latest stable release |
| 18:24.13 | ompaul | fragile hacks included? |
| 18:24.26 | jelly-home | johnny66: oh, you're nt using packages from d-m? |
| 18:24.28 | ompaul | which we don't know the details about :) |
| 18:24.56 | jelly-home | ompaul: we don't, but the owner does. |
| 18:24.57 | johnny66 | im not using the marillat sources, they di'nt work to well for me so i rolled back |
| 18:25.22 | ompaul | point |
| 18:25.23 | owen1 | i try to mount a usb. i run dmesg and see sdb: sdb1. is this my usb? i created an empty folder /media/usb. do i need to run mount command now? |
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| 18:25.58 | jelly-home | johnny66: nod. Is the situation remedied after a logoff and logon? |
| 18:26.06 | simonlnu | sdb1 is what partition your fs in on, for that usb device |
| 18:26.58 | johnny66 | jelly-home, i can try but im not a big fan of reboot to resolve, do you know why only one audio source can use SPDIF at the same time? |
| 18:27.21 | jelly-home | johnny66: don't reboot. Log off, and back on . |
| 18:27.30 | jelly-home | it might be a) xbmc is using pulseaudio and b) leaving strange PA audio routing setup |
| 18:27.37 | simonlnu | as in exit session, come back |
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| 18:29.11 | johnny66 | will be back in a sec logging off/on |
| 18:29.13 | jelly-home | johnny66: also, Adobe Flash is a bit picky about reopening alsa devices used by other apps. If your "audio in firefox" is actually flash, you might be more lucky if you configured a pulseaudio setup. |
| 18:30.07 | johnny66 | jelly-home, ok thanks ill be back in a sec |
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| 18:32.35 | johnny66 | jelly-home, ok after loggin off/on the audio is back up. Hmm why is xbmc locking the audio device after closing (normal shutdown) |
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| 18:34.19 | Tuinslak | I have this error since upgrading to Squeeze: http://serverfault.com/questions/252261/network-access-issues-after-upgrading-to-squeeze -- non root user cannot access anything related to the networking -- any idea ? |
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| 18:38.45 | johnny66 | jelly-home, any ideas? |
| 18:38.56 | jelly-home | johnny66: I already offered some. |
| 18:39.01 | tobNoOne | can someone please tell me why I cant run gem after I have installed it from apt-get, here is the error msg: http://paste2.org/p/1330229 |
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| 18:39.32 | jelly-home | johnny66: try verifying which processes keep the devices open. |
| 18:39.36 | jelly-home | !list alsa users |
| 18:39.37 | dpkg | To see what processes are using (and perhaps blocking) your sound device: ps `lsof +D /dev -F rt | awk '/^p/ {pid=$1} /^t/ {type=$1} /^r0x74..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid} /^r0xe..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid}' | cut -c 2- | uniq`. Alternatively, fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer |
| 18:40.29 | johnny66 | jelly-home, so you are suggesting a system-wide pulseaudio move? How do i know if a process is using alsa or pulseaudio? |
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| 18:41.59 | tobNoOne | perhaps i am asking in the wrong channel again... |
| 18:42.02 | jelly-home | johnny66: I'm suggesting investigating more, and then possibly trying out PA after you're sure you can't make all the apps work together with alsa only. |
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| 18:42.53 | akssps011 | When I click the option: Receive files in bluetooth settings, it says: Cannot start "Personal File Sharing" Preferences |
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| 18:44.09 | johnny66 | jelly-home, a sincere thanks for all your help. |
| 18:44.39 | jhutchins_lt | akssps011: Ok. Presumably this has something to do with Debian? |
| 18:44.48 | smacnay | gets confused about the benefits/detriments of ALSA/OSS4/PA |
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| 18:46.05 | jhutchins_lt | smacnay: Different approaches to presenting a standardised sound interface that can allow more than one program to access the sound system at the same time - ie Skype can "ring" when you're listening to Amarok. |
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| 18:48.45 | jhutchins_lt | smacnay: oss is the oldest project; alsa was created because oss essentially stagnated. Alsa's done a pretty good job at keeping up with the hardware, but was not making much progress on the multi-program access, so pulseaudio was started. |
| 18:48.46 | smacnay | jhutchins, I have stuck with ALSA but tried PA when the Gnome install put it on the machine and dabbled with OSS4. I find that ALSA has been working decently enough not to play around much more. |
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| 18:49.06 | mentor | OSS/ALSA are hardware APIs |
| 18:49.10 | smacnay | jhutchins, has PA surpassed alsa? |
| 18:49.21 | smacnay | mentor, ah... so PA is a layer on top? |
| 18:49.24 | mentor | PA/ESD/arts are application sound APIs |
| 18:49.30 | jhutchins_lt | smacnay: Yeah. |
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| 18:49.46 | smacnay | Has OSS4 come into its own? |
| 18:49.52 | mentor | smacnay: The later two just did mixing; PA does lots |
| 18:50.05 | jhutchins_lt | oss is still around, and supposedly moving forward on a unified system, but mostly it's deprecated and emulated by alsa these days. |
| 18:50.09 | mentor | smacnay: Automatic sample rate/depth conversion; hot routing of streams, etc. |
| 18:50.22 | smacnay | mentor, some apps require jack. Does PA do what jack does? |
| 18:50.25 | jhutchins_lt | alsa is also supposedly still working on the problems pulseaudio addresses. |
| 18:50.26 | mentor | No |
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| 18:50.41 | mentor | JACK is a professional level audio interchangey thing |
| 18:50.53 | mentor | I.e., low latency, frame level timing, etc. |
| 18:50.58 | smacnay | mentor, sound apps seem to need it (recording and mixing apps) |
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| 18:51.16 | mentor | smacnay: That makes sense |
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| 18:51.50 | arvind_khadri | hi, where can I find dns records? |
| 18:51.51 | jhutchins_lt | pulse does some of what jack does, and also tries to do things like routing sound to a different computer for output. |
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| 18:52.06 | smacnay | I liked the actual sound that PA put out. OSS4 also seemed to utilize my hardware more effectively. |
| 18:52.07 | mentor | pulseaudio does network sound as well |
| 18:52.16 | smacnay | maybe I should look at PA again. |
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| 18:52.41 | mentor | smacnay: PA has had a lot of issues where it actually tries to use the hardware features |
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| 18:52.52 | jhutchins_lt | pulseaudio got a really bad reputation because it was being installed by default when it didn't have any user interfaces and most programs couldn't use it. Many distributions installed it before there was even a volume control for it! |
| 18:53.03 | smacnay | mentor, ah... so it is not that stable just yet? |
| 18:53.04 | jhutchins_lt | Things are getting better now, Debian has interfaces. |
| 18:53.15 | mentor | I use it witj no issue |
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| 18:53.41 | jhutchins_lt | It also does a better job of just lying there and eating ram and clock cycles without the user seeing any difference. |
| 18:53.49 | mentor | Well |
| 18:53.53 | smacnay | hehe |
| 18:53.55 | mentor | That's a slight lie |
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| 18:54.13 | mentor | I've hacked the gnome sound applet so the context menu can select default output |
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| 18:54.39 | sacredchao | I am running LXDE and my mouse stopped working... I can move the cursor but left and right clickj are broken |
| 18:54.53 | mentor | TRy running xev |
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| 18:55.07 | jelly-home | mentor: are you using it without the forced ~/.asoundrc pulse entries? |
| 18:55.12 | sacredchao | I know it is software issue because both hardware mice on my laptop broke and a USB mouse also does not left or right or middle click |
| 18:55.19 | akssps011 | jhutchins_lt: probably not, I just installed bluetooth from the repos. The file transfer worked only one way |
| 18:55.25 | mentor | jelly-home: No |
| 18:55.35 | akssps011 | jhutchins_lt: from PC to mobile |
| 18:55.42 | mentor | jelly-home: This is a bug in libasound |
| 18:55.55 | sacredchao | mentor: Is xev supported to do anything when I click |
| 18:56.12 | mentor | sacredchao: It should output input events to the console |
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| 18:56.41 | sacredchao | It sees all keyboard clicks but not mouse cloicks |
| 18:56.50 | smacnay | thanks for the input on pa and alsa |
| 18:58.31 | sacredchao | So if anyone knows why X.Org cannot see click events of any mouse I plug in, I would appreciate input |
| 18:59.18 | mentor | Is there an evdev monitor thing? |
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| 19:00.14 | mentor | input-utiils? |
| 19:02.25 | sacredchao | Not sure what evdev is, I don't have it running though. I do have udev |
| 19:02.48 | mentor | evdev is the kernel inout device interface |
| 19:03.10 | sacredchao | I am installing input-utils right now |
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| 19:09.56 | meder | how can I make iconv output to the same file as was given in the input? |
| 19:10.21 | mentor | sponge |
| 19:10.35 | sacredchao | mentor: I installed input-utils and I already had xserver-xorg-input-evdev installed |
| 19:10.41 | meder | hm? |
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| 19:10.57 | meder | can you give an example usage |
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| 19:11.22 | mentor | meder: Generally programs don't buffer and you can't write to the file as you're reading it |
| 19:11.35 | meder | right |
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| 19:15.16 | meder | mentor: how can I use sponge in this circumstance? Or actually, I can just 'mv' theoriginal file and append _old to it, right? |
| 19:15.25 | mentor | man sponge? |
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| 19:16.45 | oliver3 | Hi guys. I'm having locale issues on a Debian box, it claims the en_GB locale isn't installed, perl keeps flooding messages about it whenever I run apt-get etc, does anyone know how to resolve this? |
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| 19:16.58 | oliver3 | locale-gen doesn't produce any output, even though en_GB.UTF-8 is in my /etc/locales.gen file |
| 19:17.15 | Gnudoll | how do I increase the size if a live image so i can use all of the flash drive I'm putting it on? |
| 19:17.31 | Sazpaimon__ | how would I pass flashvars to the standalone official flash player, anyone know? |
| 19:18.54 | DetroitLibertyPe | there is a standalone official Debian flash player? |
| 19:19.03 | Sazpaimon__ | from adobe |
| 19:19.38 | DetroitLibertyPe | oh, if its from adobe its not free software, and I wouldn't want to ruin a perfect GNU/Linux system with it |
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| 19:19.39 | Sazpaimon__ | its a general linux flashplayer, but i figured I'd check if anyone here knew before trying ##flash, which is mostly actionscript programming |
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| 19:21.31 | jhutchins_lt | Sazpaimon__: Adobe has some forums for the linux players. |
| 19:21.59 | wolfric | why is the package insight only available in lenny and sid and not squeeze or wheezy |
| 19:22.18 | Sazpaimon__ | i think i figured it out either way |
| 19:22.37 | Gnudoll | is there a way to increase/adjust the size of a .img file? |
| 19:22.53 | Sazpaimon__ | if I load it like ./flashplayer "file://$1?flash=vars" it loads the flash file okay, no idea if the flashvars get loaded, but i assume they do since it's in URL format |
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| 19:23.12 | jhutchins_lt | !why is insight not in squeeze |
| 19:23.13 | dpkg | jhutchins_lt: what are you talking about? |
| 19:23.25 | jhutchins_lt | Sigh. There's some bot util that does that. |
| 19:24.14 | jhutchins_lt | wolfric: Usually it's because the maintainer has dropped it and/or there are too many critical, unfixed bugs. |
| 19:25.39 | themill | insight isn't in sid either |
| 19:25.58 | wolfric | themill: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=insight |
| 19:26.00 | wolfric | says it is here |
| 19:26.21 | themill | wolfric: check what architectures that reports and how they are described |
| 19:26.37 | jelly-home | out of sight... |
| 19:26.38 | wolfric | ah i see |
| 19:27.20 | themill | !dbugs 566579 |
| 19:27.24 | dpkg | DONE:#566579:N[ftp.debian.org] RM: insight -- RoQA; Insane packaging; unmaintained; low popcon (moreinfo); Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:03:02 UTC [] |
| 19:27.42 | wolfric | low popcorn? lol |
| 19:27.45 | jelly-home | insane packaging! |
| 19:28.13 | wolfric | where did you find that themill |
| 19:28.17 | Gnudoll | yeah, I parsed it like that too, when I first read it |
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| 19:28.32 | wolfric | oh popcon |
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| 19:28.42 | jelly-home | !popcon |
| 19:28.42 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ . Statistics are also available via IRC, /msg judd popcon $package |
| 19:28.47 | themill | wolfric: packages have a QA page: http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/insight.html |
| 19:29.40 | jelly-home | wonders how long does p.qa.d.o retain data and decides to click http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xv.html |
| 19:30.03 | diago | I have to change the nofile limits in /etc/security/limits.conf for dovecot. Is there a way to make the changes without a reboot? |
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| 19:30.15 | Gnudoll | hot soup is nice on a sore throat. . |
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| 19:30.38 | Gnudoll | what command is needed to resize an image file? |
| 19:31.03 | wolfric | Is it much effort to maintain a package? |
| 19:31.18 | Rienzilla | that depends |
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| 19:32.00 | jelly-home | diago: that file is a config file for the PAM module pam_limits. So you have to restart the service and hope it reads the settings at boot, before it drops root privileges. |
| 19:32.10 | jelly-home | at start* |
| 19:32.15 | ompaul | Gnudoll: imagemagik and the convert command |
| 19:32.27 | Gnudoll | thanks |
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| 19:32.44 | Gnudoll | goes off to tead man pages. . . |
| 19:32.56 | jelly-home | tear* |
| 19:33.07 | Gnudoll | err read |
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| 19:34.15 | ompaul | Gnudoll: hang on I'll dig it out for ya |
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| 19:35.05 | Gnudoll | thanks! |
| 19:35.49 | ompaul | convert -size 320x85 xc:transparent -font Bookman-DemiItalic -pointsize 72 -draw "text 25,60 'Magick'" -channel RGBA -blur 0x6 -fill darkred -stroke magenta -draw "text 20,55 'Magick'" fuzzy-magick.png OR convert rose.jpg -resize 50% rose.png or convert rose.jpg rose.png just to give you an idea |
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| 19:36.24 | MeglaW | hi, i have a box here with no cd, no floppy, no nic, and it cant boot on usb. it has debian on it with grub and disc encryption, is there any way i can edit grub to kick me into a net-install? |
| 19:36.41 | MeglaW | or do you have any other ideas how to reinstll it exept removing the disk |
| 19:37.06 | ompaul | Gnudoll: it is just about the most powerful thing I have come across in computing, I have worked on number crunchers of the main frame variety and as mad as many dependencies in a chart with 5k programs in a sequence this thing was actually stunning :) |
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| 19:37.34 | Gnudoll | Ummm, this is a live CD image, not a graphic |
| 19:37.58 | ompaul | Gnudoll: this is the page I grabbed that from - get a look when you can http://www.imagemagick.org/script/convert.php?ImageMagick=3gs31f9rfn4a7k315n17554ep5 |
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| 19:38.21 | ompaul | apt-get update && apt-get install imagemagik |
| 19:38.36 | ompaul | apt-get update && apt-get install imagemagick (typo) |
| 19:38.55 | jelly-home | Gnudoll: what do you mean by "resize"? if it's an iso image you probably need to remaster it |
| 19:38.56 | themill | Gnudoll: you're trying to resize a CD (ISO) image? |
| 19:39.26 | Gnudoll | ompaul:the live image file for a flash drive |
| 19:39.27 | ompaul | chuckles ... I thought it was a graphical image |
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| 19:39.34 | ompaul | sorry |
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| 19:39.37 | ompaul | I better go and rest |
| 19:40.06 | DimmuR | i'm searching for some software that will allow me to connect to COM1 port (/dev/ttyUSB0) and send some commands. I've tried cutecom but it gives unreadable answers :( anyone can point me to some software? |
| 19:40.09 | ompaul | Gnudoll: you don't resize it |
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| 19:40.25 | ompaul | Gnudoll: you need to remaster as jelly-home said |
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| 19:40.35 | Gnudoll | it does not take up all of the drive |
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| 19:40.49 | Gnudoll | so 3/4 of the drive is wasted. . . |
| 19:41.16 | ompaul | Gnudoll: you are asking how do you put it on the stick "neater"? |
| 19:41.50 | ompaul | Gnudoll: did you cat debian*.iso > My-USB-Stick? |
| 19:41.52 | Gnudoll | sort of. . |
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| 19:41.53 | jmarsden | DimmuR: minicom or cutecom should work, if you see "unreadable answers" you probably have not configured the serial port correctly |
| 19:42.09 | Gnudoll | I want the extra space to be on the live image |
| 19:42.17 | DimmuR | i'm getting something like that http://wklej.to/rNYSj in cutecom |
| 19:42.35 | breadtk | I'd love some feedback. Is running a cron job for "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade --force-yes" a bad idea in keeping up-to-date on a web server? |
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| 19:42.53 | breadtk | a daily cron job that is |
| 19:43.09 | erAbuelo | buenas noches |
| 19:43.35 | pdpd | hi |
| 19:43.47 | breadtk | !es |
| 19:43.47 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 19:43.50 | ompaul | Gnudoll: you have two choices, one is remaster it to much bigger image but that is not really as good as a persistent stick which you can do your "daily" work on. |
| 19:44.00 | pdpd | help me |
| 19:44.03 | jmarsden | DimmuR: I'd recheck serial port speed, parity and stop bits |
| 19:44.32 | pdpd | is possible recovery delete file ext3 debian 4 |
| 19:44.37 | ompaul | Gnudoll: you mean something like this? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/debian-live-flash-drive-install-from-windows/ |
| 19:44.41 | diago | jelly-home: that doesn't seem to work with dovecot, thanks though. I'll keep digging |
| 19:44.54 | DimmuR | jmarsden, i'm using instructions for recovery some tp link router and i have the same settings that documentation shows :S |
| 19:44.57 | Gnudoll | ompaul: how would I make the persistant stick? |
| 19:45.13 | jelly-home | diago: what is it you're really trying to do? |
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| 19:45.24 | ompaul | Gnudoll: sorry massive lag there |
| 19:45.26 | erAbuelo | breadtk: ?? |
| 19:45.30 | jelly-home | diago: ie. what problem are you trying to solve? |
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| 19:45.54 | breadtk | Is running a daily cron job for "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade --force-yes" a bad idea in keeping up-to-date on a web server? |
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| 19:46.15 | ZykoticK9 | pdpd, undelete in ext3... probably not. But check out photorec http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec which is part of testdisk probably your best shot. Good luck. |
| 19:46.17 | niman | hmm how can show hidden file in mac os by hot key in linux Ctrl+H in mac os how? |
| 19:46.37 | ompaul | breadtk: if there is any problem you have no chance once the cron job runs |
| 19:46.42 | jmarsden | breadtk: Use the unattended-upgrades package |
| 19:46.58 | jelly-home | pdpd: in general, no. Restore from backups. |
| 19:47.05 | breadtk | ompaul: Yep. Thats what I'm afraid of. Not sure how it would react. |
| 19:47.13 | breadtk | jmarsden: I'll take a look at that option. Thanks |
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| 19:49.25 | pdpd | i don't have backup is the new installation i have delete user whit data |
| 19:49.41 | diago | jelly-home: I need to increase the login_max for dovecot which warns about the fd limit being to low at 1024 |
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| 19:49.54 | Gnudoll | i'll look at the live helper scripts... |
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| 19:50.01 | Agiofws | can anyone tell me why i am gettinbg this error http://codepad.org/kvwh7jBE running the package uniconvertor ? |
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| 19:50.01 | Agiofws | in debian ? |
| 19:50.14 | diago | I'm just not sure where to increase the that limit for dovecot |
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| 19:50.31 | jelly-home | diago: play with ulimit in the service init script :-| |
| 19:50.56 | jelly-home | that's the way we do it for apache |
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| 19:51.21 | pdpd | for example helix livecd recovery data? |
| 19:51.48 | diago | jelly-home: I tried * soft nofile 2048 but it didn't work for dovecot |
| 19:51.50 | jmarsden | pdpd: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html has some info, I have no idea if it works. |
| 19:52.28 | joe6 | the volume is too low and I used the gnome volume monitor to max it out, but the volume is not increasing. Any suggestions, please? |
| 19:53.02 | diago | joe6: you may need to set alsa options for your card |
| 19:53.16 | Agiofws | anyone ? |
| 19:53.21 | Agiofws | /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/uniconvertor/app/utils/locale_utils.py:9: DeprecationWarning: The popen2 module is deprecated. Use the subprocess module |
| 19:53.27 | jelly-home | diago: that doesn't sound like "ulimit -n 2048" in the init script. |
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| 19:54.19 | diago | you mean /etc/init.d/dovecot? |
| 19:54.20 | joe6 | diago, using alsaconf? |
| 19:54.32 | jmarsden | Agiofws: I think you are seeing that because the code you are running is using an older deprecated Python module... feel free to update the code to the newest approach if you want. |
| 19:54.52 | Agiofws | update python ? |
| 19:54.53 | diago | joe6: read the info in /usr/share/sound/alsa/HD-AUDIO |
| 19:55.25 | Agiofws | i think python is updated to latest |
| 19:55.30 | jmarsden | Agiofws: Update the code that calls something in the popen2 module. Read the error message :) |
| 19:55.36 | joe6 | diago, thanks. |
| 19:55.40 | diago | joe6: I'm just assuming it's an HD type card |
| 19:55.52 | diago | there are several helpful txt docs in there though |
| 19:55.58 | Agiofws | jmarsden, i am no coder |
| 19:56.08 | jmarsden | Agiofws: Then why do you care about a deprecation warning? |
| 19:56.16 | Agiofws | First you need to install UniConvertor (and the Python Image Library) in Inkscape's own copy of Python. |
| 19:56.22 | Agiofws | because its not working ? |
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| 19:56.41 | jmarsden | That warning does NOt mean anything is not working. It is just a warning. |
| 19:57.03 | Agiofws | ok |
| 19:57.14 | jmarsden | Agiofws: Maybe if it is "not working", you need to ask about whatever is not working, instead of asking about that warning :) |
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| 19:57.44 | Agiofws | ok asking |
| 19:58.09 | Agiofws | ... inkscape will not open a cdr image via its uniconvertor |
| 19:59.01 | abrotman | inkscape? the graphics program? |
| 19:59.08 | Agiofws | yeah |
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| 19:59.41 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 20:00.46 | diago | jelly-home: I found it, thanks for your help in pointing me in the right direction |
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| 20:06.26 | Escherial | sanity check: if i forward a port via ssh to linux box A from home machine B, can i connect to A from work machine C via B? |
| 20:07.11 | Escherial | i know i can connect to A from B via localhost on B |
| 20:07.21 | Escherial | (i realize i'm being kind of imprecise with the terminology here...) |
| 20:07.26 | Agiofws | running an ssh server on the machines you want to connect to ; and setting up the portforwarding on each gateway ... |
| 20:08.20 | Escherial | oh, so does machine B also have to be forwarding the port, or does B simply have to be on the other end of the port forward from A? |
| 20:08.34 | Escherial | i'm not sure what forwarding the port on B would entail, since it's running windows |
| 20:08.47 | Escherial | (A is running an ssh server and the forwarding to B is already working) |
| 20:09.11 | Agiofws | i think you have to portforward on on both ends ... or else set up a ssh tunnel or a VPN ... |
| 20:09.15 | Escherial | (i can access the webserver running on port 8008 on A by visiting http://localhost:8008 on a browser on B, for instance) |
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| 20:09.37 | adamos | Does anyone know if Debian x86_64 has the same flash issue with Fedora 14 x86_64 where the sound is distorted? Its a glibc issue and I was wondering if Debian has the same issue. I am kinda sick with the sound distortion and flash crashes with F14 x64 |
| 20:09.42 | jhutchins_lt | Escherial: Yes, you can hop from an accessible machine to an inaccessible machine using ssh. |
| 20:09.48 | jelly-home | Escherial: is " connect to A from work machine C via B" what you're actually attempting to accomplish? |
| 20:09.58 | Escherial | jelly-home: yes :) |
| 20:10.08 | adamos | s/sick with/sick of |
| 20:10.10 | Escherial | or actually just make A indirectly publicly-accessible |
| 20:10.39 | Escherial | C is irrelevant, just happens to be another computer that's not getting any ports forwarded to it |
| 20:10.46 | niman | COME , JOIN US IN #5hit |
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| 20:10.50 | jelly-home | Escherial: can you connect from A to C directly? |
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| 20:11.15 | Escherial | sadly no; C is behind a NAT router over which i have no control |
| 20:11.18 | jelly-home | !ops niman channel advertising |
| 20:11.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly-home complains about: niman channel advertising |
| 20:11.41 | mentor | niman: Go away |
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| 20:11.51 | niman | mentor: tnx |
| 20:12.38 | mentor | niman: Now |
| 20:12.46 | Escherial | regardless, i want A to be accessible to anyone who tries to acecss it via B (B has a public ip and dns record, hrungnir.ath.cx) |
| 20:12.54 | jhutchins_lt | mentor: Don't feed the trolls. |
| 20:13.03 | Escherial | so i'd like anyone to be able to go to http://hrungnir.ath.cx:8008 to acess the webserver running on A |
| 20:13.10 | jelly-home | Escherial: then yes, you can ssh with RemoteForward from A to B, thus making a service from A available for B (on B's localhost, or even on B's public address) |
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| 20:15.00 | jelly-home | Escherial: eg. from A you might do ssh -R hrungnir.ath.cx:8008:localhost:80 hrungnir.ath.cx |
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| 20:15.55 | jelly-home | Escherial: you would have to enable "GatewayPorts yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on hrungnir. |
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| 20:18.00 | Escherial | jelly-home: does it matter that hrungnir is a windows machine? |
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| 20:18.41 | jelly-home | Escherial: if you have an ssh service on it, no |
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| 20:19.00 | Escherial | my ssh client on the windows machine (securecrt) has an interface for setting up port forwarding, but i'll try doing it from the command line, too |
| 20:19.19 | jelly-home | Escherial: it does it you have to ssh from B to A instead of the other way round |
| 20:19.22 | Escherial | ah, perhaps securecrt is running an ssh server, then? :\ i'm kind of hazy on how this all works |
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| 20:19.29 | jelly-home | Escherial: unlikely. |
| 20:19.37 | jelly-home | SecureCRT is a client. |
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| 20:20.17 | Escherial | so how does a port forward work? does the machine forwarding the port (A in this case) connect to the machine getting forwarded to? |
| 20:20.25 | jelly-home | Escherial: it can work both ways. |
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| 20:20.50 | Escherial | right, i recall reading about reverse tunneling |
| 20:21.30 | Escherial | i assume that's where you run an ssh server locally and the machine on which you want to access services connects to you |
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| 20:22.03 | Escherial | but aside from that detail, i assume it works the same way as normal port forwarding |
| 20:22.18 | Escherial | thanks for going over this in such detail with me, by the way :) i really appreciate it |
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| 20:24.06 | Escherial | ok, looking at my windows box and it does seem that port 8008 is listening for connections |
| 20:24.22 | Escherial | i wonder if securecrt is binding the port only on the loopback interface or something :\ |
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| 20:29.23 | jelly-home | netstat will knwo |
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| 20:29.41 | jelly-home | (yes windows has netstat) |
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| 20:33.11 | pipeline | what is the easiest method of building amd64 packages on an i386 system ? |
| 20:34.01 | ansgar | pipeline: You can use a 64bit kernel and amd64-chroot if your processor supports it. |
| 20:34.01 | jelly-home | pipeline: is the hardware amd64 capable? |
| 20:34.24 | pipeline | ansgar, jelly-home : yes, but I don't presently have a 64 bit kernel installed... was hoping to build the 64 bit kernel package on the i386 system. |
| 20:34.32 | jelly-home | pipeline: just install it. |
| 20:34.45 | ansgar | pipeline: Debian's 64bit kernel is available on i386 as well. |
| 20:34.45 | jelly-home | ,info linux-image-amd64 --arch i386 |
| 20:34.46 | judd | Package linux-image-amd64 (kernel, optional) in squeeze/i386: Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package). Version: 2.6.32+29; Size: 4.2k; Installed: 48k |
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| 20:36.32 | jelly-home | pipeline: you can boot that one so you can create an amd64 chroot where you'll be able to build your very own amd64 kernel. |
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| 20:36.46 | jelly-home | there's a yo dawg line hiding in there. |
| 20:37.16 | pipeline | yeah screw it |
| 20:37.31 | pipeline | was going to build a kernel package from a friend, but rebooting a remote host is too much work for that ;) |
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| 20:39.46 | Escherial | jelly-home: the port's open as far as i can tell and looks just like the one that's open on 85 that i can access |
| 20:40.00 | Escherial | i imagine that securecrt is doing something to filter out non-local requests, annoyingly enough :\ |
| 20:40.22 | jelly-home | Escherial: I imagine that would be the windows firewall |
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| 20:42.07 | Escherial | touche, although it seems securecrt also does some filtering of its own |
| 20:42.14 | Escherial | changeable only via the registry :\ |
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| 20:42.32 | Escherial | er, scratch that, ini file |
| 20:44.55 | Escherial | nice, it works now! :D thanks for your help, as i wouldn't have thought to check the windows firewall after trying to change the filter in securecrt |
| 20:45.08 | Escherial | i should probably make it something less permissive than allow 0.0.0.0 @_@ |
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| 20:56.45 | kjofas | how do i add ctrl + tilde in Xresources? |
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| 20:58.56 | homie | kjofas: ? why would you want to, what does it do ? |
| 20:59.28 | kjofas | homie: i would like to use yeahconsole and add the keytoggle to Alt+~ |
| 20:59.35 | kjofas | but i am unsure how to do this properly |
| 20:59.36 | kjofas | :/ |
| 21:00.29 | homie | kjofas: which windowmanager do you use ? |
| 21:00.34 | homie | kjofas: kde gnome ? |
| 21:00.41 | kjofas | no i do not use any of those |
| 21:00.53 | kjofas | they are too bloated for me :/ |
| 21:00.53 | homie | twm ? |
| 21:00.56 | kjofas | i use stumpwm |
| 21:00.59 | homie | ah |
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| 21:01.31 | kjofas | homie: acctually im using awesome now |
| 21:01.32 | homie | there's a /etc/inputrc, where you can maybe put some shortcuts, but i'm not sure of that too, cause i didn't use that much |
| 21:01.45 | kjofas | i never used /etc/inputrc |
| 21:01.57 | homie | but apart from that i know every wm comes with some options for setting such things |
| 21:02.19 | homie | and i never used Xresources for input shortcuts |
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| 21:03.38 | kjofas | homie: some neat stuff in there thanks |
| 21:03.44 | nsadmin | ,pciid 14e4:4727 |
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| 21:03.45 | judd | [14e4:4727] is 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'brcm80211' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4727 http://wiki.debian.org/wl http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 and the out-of-tree 'wl' module. |
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| 21:04.16 | homie | if i were you i would lookup the stumpwm or awesome documents to search for setting options in my wm |
| 21:04.23 | homie | first |
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| 21:07.14 | nsadmin | how can I get my wireless going? chipset listed above/. |
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| 21:08.14 | homie | well atleast i got my lyx-2.0 on squeeze going now |
| 21:08.26 | homie | i missed some boost libs basically |
| 21:10.39 | jhutchins | !bcm |
| 21:10.59 | jhutchins | dpkg: bcm? |
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| 21:11.00 | dpkg | jhutchins: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 21:11.06 | jhutchins | dpkg: broadcom? |
| 21:11.06 | dpkg | Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <brcm80211>, <wl>. For Ethernet chipset support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>. |
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| 21:13.10 | streuner_ | nsdamin surely know that, but we need to know what behinds his question |
| 21:13.44 | streuner_ | nsadmin: is the chipset even supported at all? |
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| 21:16.09 | nsadmin | yeah, it is... just read from searched page that shows use of module-assistant which is currently installing build-essential and building broadcom-sta |
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| 21:17.15 | ignotusp | what's the meaning of this package http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/indicator-applet if there aren't any program indicator in the repository? |
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| 21:17.36 | nsadmin | it's done, now I have broadcom-sta-modules-2.6.32-5-amd64 which has wl.ko |
| 21:17.47 | the3rdbit | hi folks, anybody knows how i could uncrypt a truecrypt volume without mounting it? |
| 21:18.21 | streuner_ | dpkg, congratulate nsadmin |
| 21:18.21 | dpkg | Yay nsadmin, you did it! |
| 21:18.25 | streuner_ | :-P |
| 21:18.31 | nsadmin | inserting wl gives me eth1 |
| 21:18.46 | nsadmin | kinda strange, no wlan0? |
| 21:18.57 | streuner_ | wtf? |
| 21:19.20 | nsadmin | actually iwlist scan works... |
| 21:19.23 | streuner_ | you should know some drivers handles eth and wlan different... |
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| 21:19.25 | nsadmin | which interface tho |
| 21:19.44 | peter5 | a lot of wifi modules use the eth namespace these days. It's kinda arbitrary |
| 21:19.46 | streuner_ | read docs about |
| 21:20.05 | peter5 | not to mention you can really name an if anything you want, by editing /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules or whatever |
| 21:20.09 | nsadmin | eth1... |
| 21:20.17 | nsadmin | makes sense I guess :) |
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| 21:20.52 | peter5 | 802.11 isn't really "ethernet" but then again a lot of high-speed internet services aren't technically "broadband" either.... |
| 21:21.16 | jelly-home | peter5: it goes thru ether! |
| 21:21.24 | jelly-home | what else can it be |
| 21:21.49 | peter5 | if you're going to use the word in that sense, probably want to spell it aether |
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| 21:22.26 | peter5 | I should totally rename my 802.11 link 'aeth0' |
| 21:22.34 | jelly-home | teh pun would be lessened then |
| 21:22.55 | nsadmin | you want lessons about puns?! |
| 21:23.01 | jelly-home | Aetheros drivers aer the best |
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| 21:23.38 | nsadmin | ok, now where is *^*^&%^ network-manager |
| 21:23.52 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 21:24.04 | streuner_ | welcome to NM :-) |
| 21:24.50 | streuner_ | well, it worked with knoppix just fine here with a Macbook Pro, it was just a supprise ;-) |
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| 21:25.51 | nsadmin | I am running squeeze and kde on this box, I found network settings, but it doesn't know about any connections most particularly the one my box has thru the wire |
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| 21:26.04 | mrdeb | does anyone know what determined that when a usb device is plugged in, like a joystick, that it's treated as a joystick or the OS may start making it act like a mouse? |
| 21:26.51 | nsadmin | usb and other devices generally have constant IDs |
| 21:26.59 | mrdeb | ok |
| 21:27.06 | nsadmin | so it knows by your device's id |
| 21:27.38 | mrdeb | well, i had a situation where i plugged in a wireless pad from several years ago, and the system was moving the cursor with the analog sticks |
| 21:27.47 | mrdeb | and also, the windows were moving up and down |
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| 21:28.36 | nsadmin | a detail, your debian has a file with ids and what they are |
| 21:28.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | nsadmin: have you got entries in interfaces (5)? if so nm will fail to operate on those connections |
| 21:28.59 | nsadmin | not sure what file or what form it takes |
| 21:29.14 | nsadmin | no, just 4 |
| 21:29.30 | mrdeb | it would be helfpu to know what controls this |
| 21:29.33 | nsadmin | brb |
| 21:29.41 | mrdeb | obviously, i want it treated a joystick |
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| 21:31.50 | nsadmin | oic what you mean now by interfaces(5) (still brb) |
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| 21:32.33 | nsadmin | so nm will read interfaces to see what it should leave alone |
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| 21:32.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | nsadmin: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:32.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | yeah |
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| 21:33.24 | nsadmin | it has an auto line #Networkmanager#iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 21:33.34 | nsadmin | which would disable by commenting |
| 21:33.39 | streuner_ | heh |
| 21:34.00 | streuner_ | make sure, everything else is disabled |
| 21:34.10 | streuner_ | (ifup)... |
| 21:34.13 | nsadmin | lo is not |
| 21:34.41 | streuner_ | disable all other daemons |
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| 21:34.47 | nsadmin | allow-hotplug eth0 |
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| 21:34.57 | nsadmin | which daemons? |
| 21:35.29 | streuner_ | usually i would say nm :-P |
| 21:36.17 | streuner_ | well, ifdown <device> should be enough :-P |
| 21:36.46 | streuner_ | but iam not sure about nm, in knoppix it just works |
| 21:37.05 | nsadmin | there's nothing other than lo for ifup/down to tweak |
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| 21:38.53 | nsadmin | brb, let's see if I'm in |
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| 21:39.51 | evilgenius101 | Hello, Can someone please tell me how to disable a SOFT - 0/1 RAiD ? |
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| 21:40.20 | ranix | there's a big difference between raid 0 and raid 1 evilgenius101 |
| 21:40.43 | evilgenius101 | just a sex |
| 21:40.44 | ranix | you can't just "disable" raid0 |
| 21:40.45 | evilgenius101 | sec* |
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| 21:41.22 | evilgenius101 | http://tinypaste.com/eef2d7 |
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| 21:41.51 | vanillaslice | hello |
| 21:41.54 | vanillaslice | i upgraded my VPS :) |
| 21:42.04 | vanillaslice | 500mb memory |
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| 21:42.26 | Sebus | look, I have a company in my room http://i486.dyndns.org/zwierzontko.PNG |
| 21:42.31 | Sebus | runs fast |
| 21:43.00 | streuner_ | wtf |
| 21:43.03 | ranix | evilgenius101: check man mdadm, and sudo mdadm --manage --help |
| 21:43.18 | ranix | check out the --manage --stop option |
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| 21:43.47 | vanillaslice | ok the image didnt work |
| 21:43.49 | vanillaslice | that was pointless |
| 21:43.55 | streuner_ | Sebus: usually nobody uses random URLs on dyndns websites, what do you think? Do you think we are insane? |
| 21:44.06 | evilgenius101 | ranix, is there any way to just disable this? i don't need raid, server came preconfigured |
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| 21:44.52 | ranix | evilgenius101: I suggest if your server came preconfigured you wipe it and start from scratch. Don't start with an unknown system and uninstall what you don't need, that's exactly the completely wrong way to operate |
| 21:45.04 | vanillaslice | !ban Sebus |
| 21:45.23 | vanillaslice | i have created some <VirtualHost>'s in my httpd.conf. do i need the files under /etc/apache2/sites-available/ ? |
| 21:45.27 | vanillaslice | apache ^ |
| 21:45.47 | Sebus | streuner_: hmm... :E just a pic i took few mis ago :S |
| 21:45.51 | nsadmin | isn't it sites-active or something? |
| 21:46.03 | nsadmin | btw thanks. I'm untethered! |
| 21:46.03 | ranix | sites-enabled |
| 21:46.15 | streuner_ | Sebus: how is that relevant for #debian? |
| 21:46.21 | nsadmin | I didn't need firmware or anything |
| 21:46.23 | ranix | sites-available should be the actual files, sites-enabled should be symlinks to sites-available files |
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| 21:47.34 | landonf | Anyone more versed in FLOSS copyright than I am happen to know where the legality of https://github.com/Fingertips/ios-sim/commit/bef0ddf136934bb904ecf5c8ffa5409fc9b93a17#L4L0 sits? |
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| 21:58.25 | izua | hey there. |
| 21:58.34 | izua | looking for a 720p webcam that works with linux. |
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| 22:09.30 | ReDucTor | Is there a way in debian to set up apt to only fetch certain packages from a repo? |
| 22:09.59 | casts | eh...why? |
| 22:10.09 | notbenh | hello all I dug an old laptop out of the closet and am trying to get debian installed on it, I tried booting from a USB key, not seen as bootable. Was going to try floppies, but seems that the floppy installer is no longer published? |
| 22:10.20 | notbenh | does any one know what version was the last to offer floppies? |
| 22:10.29 | ReDucTor | Wanting only samba4, yet no the others, and don't want to just have to fetch those packages individually as it updates |
| 22:10.46 | ansgar | notbenh: Etch IIRC. |
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| 22:11.03 | notbenh | ansgar: cool I'll see what I can find |
| 22:11.30 | ReDucTor | My boss wants to use the packages over compiled versions of stuff, need windows compatible domain controller with ldap, openldap package isnt compiled with CLDAP support, and samba4 isnt in stable repo |
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| 22:11.51 | casts | this isn't going to break anything at all |
| 22:13.56 | ReDucTor | Anyone got any suggestions? Otherwise i'll have to decide to either recompile openldap or samba4 |
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| 22:15.37 | casts | i'm not sure what to say, compiling yourself is certainly an option, |
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| 22:17.04 | ReDucTor | Ya thats what i figured |
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| 22:17.57 | Bartzy | Anyone is using Amazon S3 extensively here (20,000+ files per day uploaded) ? |
| 22:18.46 | obiwahn | what is a good way to backup 'mbox'es |
| 22:19.08 | rudi_s | obiwahn: cp? |
| 22:19.19 | rudi_s | Or better rsync. |
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| 22:19.30 | obiwahn | you are so cever!! |
| 22:19.41 | rudi_s | ? |
| 22:19.44 | obiwahn | or rdiff-backup |
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| 22:20.25 | obiwahn | cp is not very effective updating the data |
| 22:20.47 | obiwahn | rsync has no option to go back in time |
| 22:20.59 | obiwahn | so it needs as cp much space |
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| 22:21.21 | hesco | grub took away my menu.1st file. How do I change the boot order of multiple kernels in the new grub ??? |
| 22:21.30 | obiwahn | i need a backup that does not take up much space and updates the files |
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| 22:21.49 | kmin | hi everybody |
| 22:21.53 | kmin | i need help |
| 22:21.57 | obiwahn | best it generates diffs of the mbox files |
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| 22:22.57 | kmin | i am trying to install debian on my intel ss-4000e nas server |
| 22:23.30 | kmin | but i can't find how i install the new system on flash memory and not harddrive |
| 22:23.37 | rudi_s | obiwahn: git |
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| 22:24.00 | rudi_s | Should compress mboxes quite well (as long as the MUA doesn't reorder the messages all the time). |
| 22:24.02 | kmin | the installer do not see the flash memory at all |
| 22:24.14 | obiwahn | git is good for small files |
| 22:24.24 | kmin | anybody has any idea? |
| 22:24.28 | obiwahn | use git for etc |
| 22:24.30 | rudi_s | obiwahn: How big is your mailbox? |
| 22:24.44 | obiwahn | 5gb |
| 22:25.01 | rudi_s | obiwahn: Don't use mbox in this case, use maildir. |
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| 22:25.30 | rudi_s | (And better split it if possible, so many files in a single directory can cause problems for most file systems.) |
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| 22:27.19 | superstraw | does the command "strings" use a buffer? I use: "tail logfile | strings -n 3" and it works, but "tail -f logfile | strings -n 3" seems to not output like I expect it to. I get more up to date info when I just use tail without the -f but I have to keep running the command. |
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| 22:27.47 | superstraw | and watch -n 5 just slaughters the output. |
| 22:27.48 | tonsofpcs | wwhat happens if you tail -f without 'strings' ? |
| 22:27.57 | superstraw | Its a nasty binary file. |
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| 22:28.26 | tonsofpcs | ah |
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| 22:29.16 | superstraw | yeah i need strings to sort out the actual notes. its a pita |
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| 22:29.59 | kmin | anybody familiar with using debian on ARM platforms? |
| 22:30.04 | tonsofpcs | well, is the file actually being appended or deleted and recreated? |
| 22:30.34 | superstraw | appeneded to |
| 22:30.34 | superstraw | appended |
| 22:30.34 | tonsofpcs | are you sure? |
| 22:30.34 | superstraw | yes. |
| 22:30.43 | tonsofpcs | no clue then. |
| 22:30.45 | superstraw | i'm not just sure, i'm hiv positive (southpark) |
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| 22:32.41 | tonsofpcs | try --follow=name instead of -f ? |
| 22:32.49 | izua | looking for a 720p webcam that works with linux. |
| 22:33.18 | tonsofpcs | izua: I would _guess_ that the new logitechs do. Can't say for sure. |
| 22:34.09 | izua | how can i know for sure? |
| 22:34.12 | superstraw | tonsofpcs ok i'll try and letya know |
| 22:34.14 | kmin | really ? no one? no one is using ARM? |
| 22:34.25 | izua | a lot of internet pages are evasive at best. |
| 22:34.30 | izua | 'works' 'works with skype' etc |
| 22:34.38 | izua | without actually telling the resolution/fps/etc |
| 22:34.57 | izua | i bought two, following various suggestions, and they don't go bast 320x240. |
| 22:35.20 | kmin | does anyone maybe know another room that might be more helpful? |
| 22:35.40 | izua | kmin: i use arm, but i do embedded development. |
| 22:35.56 | kmin | well it is almost the same thing |
| 22:35.57 | izua | what board do you have? |
| 22:36.01 | tonsofpcs | kmin: on ARM? no, sorry, not I. |
| 22:36.07 | kmin | em7210 |
| 22:36.18 | izua | not really. i do bareboard stuff, with stm32/lpc20xx usually :) |
| 22:36.27 | tonsofpcs | isn't there an arm channel? |
| 22:36.39 | kmin | how do u get the installer to see the flash memory? |
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| 22:37.15 | superstraw | nope doesnt help... hmm. |
| 22:37.25 | superstraw | brb |
| 22:37.37 | izua | hmm. |
| 22:37.50 | izua | i can't really find anything on that board. |
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| 22:38.38 | kmin | http://em7210.kwaak.net/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/HardwareDetails |
| 22:38.41 | izua | what section of flash is it? how far did you get it to run? |
| 22:38.50 | izua | can you boot? does it talk with external stuff? |
| 22:39.42 | izua | as far as i know, do write stuff to flash, you need a hardware/jtag programmer of sorts(be it internalor external flash), unless there's a specific driver written for that very particular device (or board) |
| 22:39.46 | kmin | i can load the installer (initrd zimage) from the network but when it comes to configuring partitions I can't see any drive or anything |
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| 22:40.59 | tonsofpcs | superstraw: try with --retry also? |
| 22:41.32 | tonsofpcs | or maybe --follow=descriptor ? |
| 22:41.36 | tonsofpcs | (read the info page for details on what all this does) |
| 22:41.57 | izua | uh. |
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| 22:42.26 | izua | you're talking about the NOR flash, JS28F256P30B95, right? |
| 22:42.40 | kmin | think so |
| 22:42.58 | kmin | yes |
| 22:43.09 | izua | erm. |
| 22:43.29 | abrotman | kmin: there is a #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:43.30 | izua | well. |
| 22:43.37 | izua | do you see it in lspci? |
| 22:43.53 | izua | one way or another,you need to access it as a block device. |
| 22:44.06 | izua | but i don't think 32Megs will be enough. |
| 22:44.33 | abrotman | to run Debian? yes it is |
| 22:44.35 | kmin | supposedly the installer ( specially the one that i got which is for this hardware ) should know where to write but it keep asking me for a root file system |
| 22:44.38 | kmin | let me check |
| 22:44.50 | abrotman | kmin: are you trying to install to ARM hardware? |
| 22:44.59 | izua | hmm that's interesting |
| 22:45.10 | kmin | yes abrotman |
| 22:45.10 | izua | i really only had a beagle board on hands, and only for a few days |
| 22:45.14 | abrotman | kmin: there is a #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:45.22 | abrotman | kmin: also, emdebian may run on ARM (not sure) |
| 22:45.24 | kmin | and no i can't see it in lspci |
| 22:46.00 | kmin | this is emdebian |
| 22:46.09 | kmin | or emarm i guess |
| 22:46.26 | abrotman | kmin: really, the channels you want are on OFTC .. |
| 22:46.41 | kmin | yeah i am going there :D |
| 22:46.43 | abrotman | #emdebian is on oftc too |
| 22:46.55 | kmin | thanks |
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| 22:49.36 | tonsofpcs | izua: looks like the logitech C310 does... you might want to do your own digging |
| 22:49.55 | izua | i'm doing it right now :) |
| 22:49.56 | izua | hey. |
| 22:50.00 | izua | haven't i seen you in #electronics? |
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| 22:51.20 | tonsofpcs | izua: you've probably seen me many plces |
| 22:52.45 | MeglaW | i have a little question, i got a bluetoothadapter, and i seem to see it, and it seems to have loaded modules for it, but what do i do now? how do i use it? ;) http://pastebin.com/g2Y11dD6 |
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| 22:54.30 | warrenchild | hello all, I have a debian server set up with multiple users. I am having issues with permissions will someone try to help me please. |
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| 22:57.19 | mtx_init | warrenchild: what's wrong |
| 22:57.40 | warrenchild | I creat a group and a folder |
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| 22:58.00 | warrenchild | for that group it has multiple users |
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| 22:58.16 | warrenchild | one user can creat a folder but other users part fo that group will not be able to access them |
| 22:58.37 | warrenchild | in order for it to work i have to give all others permission for the group to access the wolders |
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| 22:58.59 | mtx_init | are the users members of the group, is the main folder owned by that group and does it have proper permissions to allow group access? |
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| 22:59.58 | warrenchild | yes the users are members of that group, and the main folder is owned by that group, and I belive I had the permissions set properly |
| 23:00.42 | mtx_init | well do ls -la directory |
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| 23:03.03 | warrenchild | drwxrwxrwx 7 root webteam 4096 Mar 28 11:28 . |
| 23:03.03 | warrenchild | drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Mar 4 14:45 .. |
| 23:03.03 | warrenchild | drwxrwxrwx 2 nick nick 4096 Mar 28 11:16 1Source Web |
| 23:03.03 | warrenchild | drwxrwxrwx 2 lisa lisa 4096 Mar 28 11:38 adobe software trials |
| 23:03.03 | warrenchild | drwxrwxrwx 2 nick nick 4096 Feb 10 15:50 SocialSeduction Videos |
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| 23:03.31 | warrenchild | what am I looking for? |
| 23:03.34 | themill | dpkg: tell warrenchild about paste |
| 23:03.35 | mtx_init | which is the directory in questution? or is this inside it warrenchild? |
| 23:03.57 | blackshirt | warrenchild: I think, if you want more better controll, you can use acl.. |
| 23:04.01 | warrenchild | I typed ls -la /data/webteam |
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| 23:05.03 | mtx_init | warrenchild: So from this it would seem that your users can create anything they want in . , but have trouble in the subdirectories? is that correct? |
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| 23:05.29 | warrenchild | correct |
| 23:06.30 | mtx_init | warrenchild: the sub directories are also not owned by the group webteam, so you will need to do down recursively if you want everything in ../webteam to be group owned. |
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| 23:07.10 | warrenchild | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:07.26 | warrenchild | that is the command I am using...should that not make everything recrusive? |
| 23:07.40 | warrenchild | but the o gives other permissions and it si nto good |
| 23:08.47 | mtx_init | with that everybody should have access, not sure why it's not working. |
| 23:09.42 | warrenchild | if I tried to implement ACL, would that mess up what I have going right now with my setup? This is a work server and I do not want to crash the system I would get a strike agienst my name |
| 23:10.34 | project2501a | how do i tell find to ignore . and .. |
| 23:10.59 | mtx_init | if I was you I would revoke 777 permissions, make sure all subdirectories are owned by the webteam group (chown) and then necessitate permissions as needed |
| 23:11.09 | mtx_init | warrenchild ^ |
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| 23:11.19 | project2501a | warrenchild: dude, if yoaure chmoding 777 the hr data, you are in deep trouble. |
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| 23:11.28 | warrenchild | mtx_init: everyone does have accress that is the problem, it is because the o in the command gives access to all others, when I take access away from all others is when I start to see the error |
| 23:12.00 | project2501a | socialseduction? PUA material!? |
| 23:12.04 | warrenchild | project2501a: is that what the command I typed does? |
| 23:12.07 | project2501a | HI REDDIT |
| 23:12.12 | project2501a | no, HI SEDDIT |
| 23:12.14 | wobblyonions | anyone here using the Debian ISCI target at all to share disk on a debian server? |
| 23:12.23 | project2501a | warrenchild: yeah |
| 23:12.38 | mtx_init | warrenchild: yeah I know and the problem is due to the lack of group ownership of subfolders |
| 23:12.45 | ZykoticK9 | warrenchild, the sub directories are owned by the user(s), and not the webteam group |
| 23:13.14 | abrotman | !tell warrenchild about permissions |
| 23:13.29 | warrenchild | How would I make the subfolders owned by the group instead of by the owner...and how can I make it so when a user makes a folder it is automatically owned by the group and not by the user who created it? |
| 23:13.49 | project2501a | sticky bit |
| 23:13.57 | Black_Prince | change users main group* |
| 23:13.59 | project2501a | warrenchild: may i suggest you read a book? |
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| 23:14.05 | warrenchild | does it have anythign to do with the smba.conf file? |
| 23:14.13 | warrenchild | you know a good book to read? |
| 23:14.41 | project2501a | warrenchild: "Introduction to the Unix Operating System", 6th Edition , by O'Reilly and associates. |
| 23:14.59 | project2501a | short, 120 pages long |
| 23:15.06 | project2501a | should give you a head start |
| 23:15.25 | warrenchild | thanks |
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| 23:16.05 | warrenchild | black_prince: I have changed a few users main group, I found how to do that, so after I change all useres main group that should take care of it? |
| 23:16.35 | warrenchild | is there a shell command to change group owner of all files and sub directories recrusivly? |
| 23:16.37 | ZykoticK9 | warrenchild, not until you change the permissions on all the sub-directories |
| 23:16.56 | Black_Prince | chown -R user:group /path/to/folder |
| 23:17.06 | Black_Prince | or for folders only |
| 23:17.06 | warrenchild | thank you Black_Prince |
| 23:17.10 | project2501a | warrenchild: if i was you, i would seriously drop everything i am doing and read. |
| 23:17.16 | mtx_init | chown -R :webteam * |
| 23:17.16 | Black_Prince | find . -type d -exec chown user:group '{}' ';' |
| 23:17.20 | project2501a | you are clearly over your head. |
| 23:17.26 | mtx_init | that will do files as well so be careful |
| 23:17.50 | project2501a | which is why you should read the "unix power tools" book before you try to do anything with find |
| 23:17.55 | warrenchild | thanks all...I am getting this book right now |
| 23:17.56 | wobblyonions | anyone here using the Debian ISCI target at all to share disk on a debian server? |
| 23:18.03 | project2501a | cuz there is a way for find to tell apart file and directories. |
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| 23:22.02 | warrenchild | THANK YOU SO MUCH ALL!!!!! YOU HELPED ME FIX MY ISSUE |
| 23:22.18 | warrenchild | project2501a: I will still read thanks for the recomendation |
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| 23:23.35 | project2501a | he could have picked ubuntu |
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| 23:23.53 | quuxman | How do I get windows that are completely off my screen? |
| 23:23.57 | owen1 | how to hibernate thinkpad x61? |
| 23:24.04 | quuxman | oops, Sawfish question |
| 23:24.19 | warrenchild | ubuntu does not run like debian does |
| 23:24.25 | warrenchild | debian is smother and a faster OS |
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| 23:24.36 | ranix | are you trolling warrenchild |
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| 23:25.08 | project2501a | ranix: nah, he is just inexperienced. he has not seen the ubuntards, yet. |
| 23:25.09 | warrenchild | trolling? whats that |
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| 23:25.35 | wobblyonions | guys, I have some docs that refer to running lvcreate yet I cant seem to find it does anyone know what the package required to get this is |
| 23:25.46 | abrotman | in squeeze? |
| 23:25.53 | project2501a | in my pants |
| 23:26.00 | abrotman | project2501a: knock it off |
| 23:26.04 | project2501a | right-o |
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| 23:26.07 | abrotman | judd: file bin/lvcreate |
| 23:26.10 | judd | bin/lvcreate in squeeze/i386: lvm2: sbin/lvcreate |
| 23:26.33 | wobblyonions | not there |
| 23:26.43 | joulez | are there rescue images for debian? |
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| 23:27.08 | abrotman | wobblyonions: in squeeze? |
| 23:27.11 | project2501a | joulez: the default debian image comes with a "rescue" options. |
| 23:27.15 | project2501a | option, even |
| 23:27.20 | abrotman | joulez: the netinst is a rescue disk |
| 23:27.33 | warrenchild | ranix: what is trolling? |
| 23:27.43 | wobblyonions | ?? |
| 23:27.47 | ranix | what is the sound of one hand clapping |
| 23:27.47 | joulez | ok thanks. |
| 23:27.51 | MrFrood | !troll |
| 23:27.51 | dpkg | In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts rude or offensive messages on the Internet, such as in online discussion forums, to disrupt discussion or to upset its participants. "Troll" can also mean the message itself or be a verb meaning to post such messages. "Trolling" is also commonly used to describe the activity. Rule #1: Don't feed the troll. Rule #2: Really, don't feed the troll. Rule #3: See rule #1. |
| 23:28.12 | abrotman | wobblyonions: are oyu using Squeeze? |
| 23:28.18 | project2501a | see rule #34 |
| 23:29.02 | warrenchild | ranix: lol seriously me trolling! I am not rude or offensive!! lol |
| 23:29.06 | abrotman | warrenchild: please stop |
| 23:29.15 | abrotman | wobblyonions: you have to be root to have that command in your path |
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| 23:37.48 | wobblyonions | I am root |
| 23:38.06 | wobblyonions | is there not a package that needs to be installed to get that |
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| 23:38.41 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 23:38.53 | lenswipe | i have a blue ray DVD image file, i tried burning it to a normal DVD and it doesnt work |
| 23:38.54 | dvs | wobblyonions: sudo will allow you to have root permissions without being root. |
| 23:38.55 | blackshirt | lenswipe: hey |
| 23:39.07 | lenswipe | how can i somehow play it under debian? |
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| 23:39.13 | lenswipe | its just a standard iso, but i cant mount it with zenity |
| 23:39.17 | lenswipe | blackshirt, sup |
| 23:39.22 | wobblyonions | I found it you need to install the lvm2 package |
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| 23:41.42 | blackshirt | lenswipe: can you mount it via terminal ? |
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| 23:43.27 | lenswipe | blackshirt, probably, if i knew how |
| 23:45.03 | blackshirt | lenswipe: # mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk ... just accord your iso name and mount point |
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| 23:45.54 | abrotman | wobblyonions: the bot told you that 15 minutes ago ... |
| 23:46.23 | blackshirt | lenswipe: adjust your iso name and mount point |
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| 23:52.15 | kurtis | Hey guys, I have a fresh server setup. I can connect using SSH fine, using both my account and the root account. For some reason, I can't SFTP into either though ... filezilla just says "Server unexpectedly closed the connection." Any ideas? |
| 23:52.16 | owen1 | how to hibernate thinkpad x61? |
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| 23:53.35 | abrotman | kurtis: sftp or ftps ? |
| 23:53.45 | wobblyonions | didnt see it have to be honest |
| 23:54.01 | lenswipe | okay, thanks |
| 23:55.15 | kurtis | abrotman: sftp |
| 23:55.39 | kurtis | Ive never had this problem on any other machines and I run debian on a few |
| 23:55.41 | abrotman | kurtis: did you double check to make sure your sshd_config has it enabled ? |
| 23:55.56 | kurtis | abrotman: Nope, I didn't :) Where would I find that? |
| 23:56.02 | abrotman | /etc/ssh/ |
| 23:56.07 | kurtis | k let me check |
| 23:56.47 | kurtis | hmm I Just see a big list .. anything specific I'm looking for to be commented/uncommented? |
| 23:57.05 | abrotman | also, there is a verbose mode that might help |
| 23:57.15 | abrotman | for instance .. does the user have a valid shell ? |
| 23:57.26 | abrotman | assumes with ssh working, it does ... |
| 23:57.37 | kurtis | Yeah, I'm pretty sure they just use Dash (since it's squeeze) |
| 23:58.09 | lenswipe | can someone tell me where to get a program for playing blu-ray? |
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