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| 00:06.57 | spersaud | how do I see battery power in lxde |
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| 00:07.10 | spersaud | I didnt install laptop-detect |
| 00:07.16 | spersaud | battery-stats ? |
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| 00:15.17 | Kull | sudo apt-get install somethingtodoimsoboredomgsuggestanapp |
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| 00:16.35 | Kull | sudo apt-get install --please somethingtodoimsoboredomgsuggestanapp |
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| 00:17.47 | wolfric | Kull: sudo rm -rf / |
| 00:17.55 | Kull | cool, i'll try it now |
| 00:18.10 | Kull | okay, its loading.....*excited!* |
| 00:18.44 | spersaud | how do I check my battery in lxde ? |
| 00:18.49 | spersaud | lightweight app |
| 00:19.00 | Kull | Not sure, LXDE is bloat and I dont use it. |
| 00:19.29 | spersaud | Kull: :) |
| 00:19.33 | spersaud | bloat ? |
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| 00:19.45 | spersaud | what do you use fvwm ? |
| 00:19.53 | Kull | No, eewww. |
| 00:19.56 | Kull | Awesome. |
| 00:19.59 | Kull | I use awesome. |
| 00:20.11 | Kull | And GTK apps. |
| 00:20.34 | Kull | A few Qt apps (becauese my .lrf needs are restricted to Qt apps atm) |
| 00:20.48 | Kull | Oh, and virtualbox uses Qt. |
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| 00:20.54 | Kull | So does vlc, I think. |
| 00:21.22 | spersaud | wmbattery :) |
| 00:21.57 | spersaud | toshiba tecra ... couldnt be happier with lxde |
| 00:23.15 | Kull | Can anyone name, or link me to, the smallest "package" in Debian? |
| 00:23.35 | Kull | Which package is the smallest, and how would I find that info. |
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| 00:24.44 | nevyn | Kull: smallest package size or smallest installed size? |
| 00:26.18 | Kull | nevyn: interesting question, smallest package was what I asked but smallest disk space usage and smallest resource usage/footprint are also relevant to my interests. |
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| 00:29.48 | spersaud | Kull: what do you think the largest is? |
| 00:30.46 | Kull | spersaud: probably emacs |
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| 00:30.54 | nevyn | Kull: you could just munge it out of /var/lib/apt/availible I think |
| 00:30.57 | Kull | Honestly I dont care. |
| 00:31.03 | nevyn | Kull: hahahahahaha |
| 00:31.08 | nevyn | emacs is tiny |
| 00:31.19 | Kull | 60mb is small, sure....surrrreeee. |
| 00:31.27 | nevyn | compared to openoffice. |
| 00:31.33 | Kull | compared to vim |
| 00:31.36 | spersaud | I am thinking, gnome |
| 00:31.44 | nevyn | kde |
| 00:31.51 | Kull | ^ ew |
| 00:31.59 | nevyn | likes kde |
| 00:32.04 | nevyn | but it's enormous |
| 00:32.09 | Kull | I don't care for it. |
| 00:32.38 | nevyn | gnome "Features suck options are too complicated for humans." |
| 00:32.50 | nevyn | kde "it must be pretty" |
| 00:32.56 | Kull | I use neither. |
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| 00:33.03 | Kull | Well, not by choice. |
| 00:33.21 | spersaud | Kull: you think lxde is bloat :) |
| 00:33.26 | Kull | I prefer Gnome, between the two. |
| 00:33.38 | spersaud | I thought xfce was tiny, I still use it on my desktop |
| 00:33.44 | Kull | It is not. |
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| 00:34.33 | abrotman | !sort by size |
| 00:34.33 | dpkg | it has been said that sort by size is aptitude search ~i -O installsize -F"%p %I", or see <sort by size sarge> |
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| 00:34.50 | Kull | Thank you. |
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| 00:36.11 | nevyn | oh that's sweet. |
| 00:36.55 | Kull | I want the smallest package in the repos, not my own boxes. |
| 00:37.46 | cafuego | !etch->squeeze |
| 00:37.55 | cafuego | fine |
| 00:37.58 | Kull | squeeze->wheezy |
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| 00:38.29 | abrotman | cafuego: you have to go through lenny first |
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| 00:38.57 | abrotman | Kull: grep-dctrl might be useful for you |
| 00:39.07 | cafuego | abrotman: Yes, I was hoping dpkg would give me the mirror URLs to use for it without me having to login to a remote box to look them up |
| 00:39.25 | Kull | Is it for local packages, though? |
| 00:39.48 | Kull | I want the smallest binary package from teh repos. |
| 00:39.55 | Kull | How do I find that? |
| 00:39.56 | abrotman | cafuego: /msg dpkg etch sources.list |
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| 00:40.12 | cafuego | Oh lovely, my local ISp still mirrors lenny on their main box |
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| 00:40.41 | Kull | The most local debian mirror to me is about 45 minutes away |
| 00:40.50 | spersaud | Kull: .. awesome sucks!!!~~ |
| 00:40.50 | Kull | Fast but often down. |
| 00:40.55 | Kull | spersaud: you suck |
| 00:41.00 | Kull | BOOOOOO |
| 00:41.03 | spersaud | lxde .. a good compromise |
| 00:41.04 | cafuego | Kull: Same here. 45 minutes flight. |
| 00:41.24 | Kull | cafuego: time for you to move out of the jungle into the urbal jungle. |
| 00:41.52 | cafuego | guesses he lives in a bigger city than you |
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| 00:42.51 | cafuego | just coz the mirror is in adelaide doesn't mean Melbourne is a hole ;-) |
| 00:42.54 | wolfric | I'm playing around with openldap. I've installed it along with phpldapadmin. This is my /etc/ldap/ldap.conf (the ip address is correct),http://pastebin.com/hp7U4kb6 but when i go to log into phpldapadmin with password 123 (test password until i got it working fine), it wont log in |
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| 00:44.51 | wolfric | The error i get is a bit conflicting. it says unable to connect to ldap server but then it says invalid credentials? http://pastebin.com/q3QpmSyu here's the error and a netstat showing ldapd is running |
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| 00:47.13 | wolfric | Any reactions at this stage would be useful. Is it like "oh havn't a clue" or "wtf is this guy talking about" or "meh the keyboard is too far away and i'm far too lazy" |
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| 00:48.34 | wolfric | btw anonymous login seems to work |
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| 00:49.34 | errigour | How do I stop my monitor from poweing off? |
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| 00:50.33 | Holborn | xset |
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| 00:51.17 | errigour | What if xset doesnt work like xrand |
| 00:51.21 | errigour | r |
| 00:51.54 | cafuego | they're different things, i'd expect them to not work in the same way. |
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| 00:53.16 | errigour | Holborn how do I use xset for that? |
| 00:53.18 | paranoidphreak | hi everybody, in ubuntu, there is something called "Additional Drivers" menu under "System>Administration>Additional Drivers"; is there something similar in debian? |
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| 00:54.15 | abrotman | !non-free |
| 00:54.16 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>, or are encumbered by patents or other legal issues. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 00:54.21 | abrotman | and contrib also |
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| 00:55.29 | paranoidphreak | abrotman: are you referring that to me? |
| 00:55.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:56.14 | paranoidphreak | abrotman: oh ok, thanks |
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| 01:04.00 | errigour | what package is the debian default desktop? |
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| 01:05.05 | abrotman | eh? it's a task |
| 01:06.24 | errigour | so I gotta reinstall debian? |
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| 01:07.45 | abrotman | for what? |
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| 01:07.50 | abrotman | errigour: try running 'tasksel' |
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| 01:09.31 | Kull | taskel is great |
| 01:09.36 | Kull | useful |
| 01:09.46 | neiz | anyone able to assist with a little troubleshooting? Used a squeeze KDE install disk but am unable to update/apt-get install... thinking the problem lies in my sources.list |
| 01:10.06 | Kull | pastebin your source.list file |
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| 01:11.43 | neiz | Kull: http://pastebin.com/rvr4vpEV |
| 01:11.59 | verma_ | ls |
| 01:12.02 | verma_ | woops :) |
| 01:12.13 | Kull | rm rf verma_ |
| 01:12.16 | Kull | oops |
| 01:12.19 | Kull | :) |
| 01:12.21 | verma_ | lol :P |
| 01:12.25 | SushiDude | -rf* |
| 01:12.39 | abrotman | neiz: those are not helpful for Kull .. they'll screw up his machine |
| 01:12.47 | Kull | neiz: looks okay to me. Try changing to another mirror, one that is closest to your geographical location. |
| 01:12.48 | abrotman | Kull: how about you paste your sources.list ... and we'll fix them |
| 01:12.57 | abrotman | neiz: oh .. sorry .. misread :) |
| 01:12.59 | Kull | abrotman: pardon? |
| 01:13.05 | verma_ | how do I figure out what package a particular command belongs to? .. I am looking for msgfmt, and all I have found is liblocale-msgfmt-perl .. which doesn't have this command |
| 01:13.11 | abrotman | neiz: your sources.list are messed up |
| 01:13.48 | Kull | testing and squeeze |
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| 01:14.01 | abrotman | Kull: there's more screwed up than that |
| 01:14.06 | neiz | abrotman: howso? I am unable to do anything with apt-get and am trying to get it correct |
| 01:14.08 | abrotman | neiz: are you trying to use squeeze or wheezy ? |
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| 01:14.17 | neiz | abrotman: squeeze |
| 01:14.42 | abrotman | neiz: okay .. let's try to fix them |
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| 01:16.04 | neiz | abrotman: that would be awesome |
| 01:16.11 | abrotman | neiz: moment |
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| 01:16.39 | abrotman | neiz: http://paste.debian.net/113638/ .. remove all of the other lines, and add just those |
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| 01:18.47 | neiz | abrotman: amazing, thank you! Now if I wanted to try wheezy would I just replace it with squeeze? |
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| 01:19.47 | verma_ | ok, I needed gettext :P |
| 01:19.57 | abrotman | neiz: please don't ... |
| 01:20.11 | errigour | xrandr --size says "Can't open display" is there any reason? |
| 01:20.21 | abrotman | neiz: you don't get to try it and go back if you don't like it .. oyu'd have to reinstall |
| 01:20.24 | errigour | or is there any way to fix that? |
| 01:20.27 | abrotman | errigour: run it as ythe user, not as root |
| 01:20.32 | neiz | abrotman: ok I'll stick with squeeze, thanks for your help |
| 01:20.45 | abrotman | as the user, not root |
| 01:21.17 | errigour | abrotman: its not found in available modes now, Can I fix that? |
| 01:21.24 | abrotman | what? |
| 01:22.07 | errigour | wheres xrandr search for available modes? |
| 01:22.26 | errigour | because its not letting me change my resolution to 1280x1024 |
| 01:22.31 | errigour | it says not an available mode |
| 01:22.39 | errigour | xorg.conf has no resolution line |
| 01:22.42 | errigour | s |
| 01:22.49 | errigour | xorg.conf has no resolution lines |
| 01:24.51 | errigour | abrotman: xorg.conf has no resolution lines |
| 01:25.03 | abrotman | that's normal |
| 01:25.09 | Bop | whaT's the command to search a file in all debian packages ? |
| 01:25.19 | Bop | in all universe, i mean |
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| 01:25.50 | errigour | abrotman: how can I add resolution options. Because Im using a dell with a built in display that probably doesnt support linux |
| 01:26.23 | errigour | but I have had linux systems that have better display options |
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| 01:27.34 | abrotman | probably a proprietary driver |
| 01:27.46 | abrotman | Bop: apt-file |
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| 01:29.29 | Bop | abrotman, does this search in the repositories ? |
| 01:29.46 | abrotman | read the documentation about the app |
| 01:30.25 | Bop | ok |
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| 01:34.45 | paranoidphreak | hi everybody, i have the following wifi card: "Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)" and i tried installing the firmware from the package manager by searching: BCM4322 and i after installing the firmware, i restarted my system and the wifi isn't showing up; can anyone help me please? |
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| 01:37.01 | dorian599 | check the netdev group |
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| 01:38.20 | abrotman | !bcm4322 |
| 01:38.20 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM4322 (PCI-IDs 14e4:432b, 14e4:432c, 14e4:432d; incorrectly identified as BCM432B, BCM432C or BCM432D by wlc_hybrid) is an 802.11n wireless LAN chipset. To install the vendor driver, ask me about <wl>. Not to be confused with the <bcm43224>, <bcm43225>, <bcm43227> or <bcm43228>. |
| 01:40.19 | paranoidphreak | dorian599: i'm a member of netdev group; i have another wifi card and i have no problem using that |
| 01:40.42 | paranoidphreak | abrotman: thanks, i'll do some research on that |
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| 01:41.10 | unkmar | Ouch!!!! |
| 01:42.30 | unkmar | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 01:42.30 | unkmar | /dev/sda1 327M 261M 50M 85% / |
| 01:42.40 | unkmar | I've got to make room for more root. |
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| 01:45.35 | unkmar | I have, (/, /home, /tmp/, /usr, /var) all on /dev/sda. Sizes (327M, 448G, 373M, 4.6G, 2.8G) /home is also full. I only have /usr and /var to work with. :( |
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| 01:46.56 | unkmar | I did an aptitude purge of bluez which purged gdm and several others, and the used space on root has not srunk. |
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| 01:47.05 | unkmar | *shrunk. |
| 01:47.29 | unkmar | The system is still usable but I am currently afraid to reboot. |
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| 01:49.20 | unkmar | I discovered the problem because gnome stopped working AND my safe-upgrade failed with (disk full) |
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| 02:14.04 | cesurasean | how do i install gd support on squeeze? |
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| 02:14.21 | Resilience | I'm having trouble with alsa and my laptop, I cannot make to work. I hae used and ubuntu-live and it works, so I know my laptop is alsa-compatible... I'm using debian testing, what can I do? |
| 02:14.31 | sirtophat | /dev/dsp is present, the volume mixer looks normal, but still no sound will come out |
| 02:16.29 | abrotman | cesurasean: libgd-dev ? |
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| 02:17.29 | sirtophat | Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) |
| 02:18.08 | Resilience | sirtophat, problems with sound too? |
| 02:18.19 | sirtophat | yes |
| 02:18.31 | sirtophat | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 02:18.33 | sirtophat | is silence |
| 02:18.57 | Resilience | mine does not work either |
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| 02:23.11 | sirtophat | same one? |
| 02:23.48 | Resilience | I don't know, I have a intel hda codec realtek alc269, yours? |
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| 02:34.41 | unkmar | I need to trim some / fat. |
| 02:35.12 | superstraw | cut off your head |
| 02:35.15 | unkmar | /usr, /home, and /var are all separate. |
| 02:35.44 | superstraw | :D <joke> |
| 02:36.02 | unkmar | Lol |
| 02:36.30 | abrotman | unkmar: uninstall unused kernels |
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| 02:43.35 | unkmar | abrotman: good suggestion, I'm losing a module in the process. :( gspca. |
| 02:45.22 | unkmar | at least that got me back into the game. I'll see what I can do later to better manage the problem. |
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| 02:49.49 | I-are- | I am running debian lenny 32 bit lxde as a desktop environment. I need to install a LAMP server for a school project. Are there any considerations I should be aware of? |
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| 02:52.44 | uoods | unkmar: check out the package localepurge |
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| 02:53.22 | I-are- | The issue is that I had a project hosted on a server at my college, but the power went out and something went wrong with the drive. I was able to get my data, but I am concerned it might not work. The server was an Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit and I am running debian 32-bit. Will the mysql, php, home directories be affected by the change from one to the other? |
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| 02:57.33 | Bhavicp | Hey all, what would be the best way to resize partion which is holding "/" files. |
| 02:57.51 | made2shred | synaptic wants me to remove things like gnome. is this normal? image: http://ge.tt/2QZgCB9/Screenshot.png |
| 02:59.46 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, what are you removing that causes this? |
| 03:00.19 | made2shred | i dunno, i went into synaptic and clicked mark all upgrades |
| 03:00.48 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, are you running testing or unstable? |
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| 03:01.05 | made2shred | not sure, how do i check? |
| 03:01.17 | made2shred | im running 6 |
| 03:01.46 | ZykoticK9 | In you are running 6, that is Squeeze/Stable. You can confirm using "lsb_release -a" |
| 03:02.23 | made2shred | 6.0.1 |
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| 03:02.27 | made2shred | squeeze |
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| 03:02.41 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, regardless, you might try running "aptitude safe-upgrade" from a terminal and see what it will do. |
| 03:02.51 | made2shred | okay |
| 03:03.07 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, did you remove anything recently? |
| 03:03.17 | made2shred | no |
| 03:03.23 | made2shred | installed apache and PHP |
| 03:03.41 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, from the default repo or some 3rd party? |
| 03:03.58 | made2shred | default |
| 03:04.04 | ZykoticK9 | strange |
| 03:04.57 | made2shred | http://pastebin.com/w6YvSPyT |
| 03:05.14 | made2shred | still wants to remove a lot of stuff |
| 03:05.47 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, it's because you've added something with libreoffice it it's repo |
| 03:05.57 | ZykoticK9 | s/it/in/ |
| 03:06.11 | made2shred | how do i remove? |
| 03:06.16 | ZykoticK9 | ? |
| 03:06.27 | made2shred | libreoffice's repo |
| 03:07.08 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, LibreOffice cannot install when OpenOffice is present, and OO is required by the "gnome" metapackage |
| 03:07.23 | made2shred | O.o |
| 03:07.32 | made2shred | so apt-get remove libreoffice? |
| 03:07.45 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, you might be fine with your update (you might not) - libreoffice is TO BE installed |
| 03:08.01 | made2shred | so.. try it and find out |
| 03:08.18 | ZykoticK9 | up to you. Do you know where you got that LibreOffice repo? |
| 03:08.28 | made2shred | not a clue |
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| 03:08.34 | ZykoticK9 | i've been looking for one (other then the very unofficial one) |
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| 03:10.49 | made2shred | ZykoticK9: want me to find it in my sources.list? |
| 03:11.56 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, no, but thanks. |
| 03:12.01 | made2shred | okay |
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| 03:12.23 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, i was just hoping you'd say "ya, LiberOffice has a repo for debian now", but you didn't ;) |
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| 03:12.55 | made2shred | it probably has a repo for debian |
| 03:14.01 | ZykoticK9 | made2shred, only if you've added unstable i think. It's easy to install in Sid. |
| 03:14.13 | made2shred | yeah |
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| 03:16.30 | Bhavicp | Hey all, what would be the best way to resize partion which is holding "/" files. |
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| 03:25.18 | zenker | will someone help me w my install, i cant fig out the partition manager |
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| 03:27.02 | zenker | im attempting to install using my ntfs partition, i have 3 existing partitions, 1st is the ntfs for vista its 350gb, next is ext4 at 150gb for ubuntu then swap w 6.5 gb |
| 03:28.08 | EmleyMoor | !tell rsvc about nvidia dkms |
| 03:28.49 | zenker | another option i can install to an sd memory card if 4gb will work. i wont be installing a bunch of stuff for now anyhow |
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| 03:29.50 | simonlnu | #ubuntu >>> |
| 03:30.12 | simonlnu | #debian is on the left and #ubuntu is on the right. you made a wrong turn. |
| 03:30.56 | zenker | can i make debian use the same swap space as ubuntu? i never use the sleep/hibernate anyhow and i have plenty of memory idont think ive ever dumped to disk at all |
| 03:31.13 | simonlnu | swap is swap. won't matter. |
| 03:31.37 | zenker | simonlnu so what do i do after i select the manual option? |
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| 03:31.48 | simonlnu | !ig |
| 03:31.48 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 03:32.27 | zenker | was that the bot or was you directing me to that page simonlnu? |
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| 03:32.43 | simonlnu | me asking the bot to point you there |
| 03:32.55 | rsvc | EmleyMoor: thanks |
| 03:33.18 | EmleyMoor | rsvc: Didn't realise I'd sent that on FreeNode at first <g> |
| 03:33.19 | zenker | kk ill try n find the options i need again..ill prob be back did u see my previous post on how my hd is already partitioned? |
| 03:34.01 | simonlnu | no |
| 03:34.10 | zenker | vista, ubuntu, swap |
| 03:34.19 | rsvc | EmleyMoor: That's why I tried here, I found very strange .. |
| 03:34.20 | zenker | ext4 for ubuntu |
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| 03:35.06 | zenker | is there any issues with the way its already set up that i should know about simonlnu? |
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| 03:35.32 | zenker | if i have 2 ill start from scratch...itll take me about a week thoug :( |
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| 03:36.53 | rsvc | EmleyMoor: I followed some tutorials on how to install Nvidia, and so far failed. I had to reinstall the system 2 times |
| 03:37.38 | rsvc | EmleyMoor: Again, thanks for the help. |
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| 03:43.51 | zenker | simonlnu, ok yeah i get nothing from that page, ty for the direction, but what i need here is pretty much gonna be step by step directions |
| 03:44.29 | zenker | im very new to ubuntu and messing with partitions and a lot of this stuff, i mostly only use linus for blender |
| 03:44.50 | zenker | ahem thats linux* ;) |
| 03:44.51 | simonlnu | zenker: that tells me nothing. there's a section for "manual partitioning". this isn't ubuntu either. you want to /join #ubuntu |
| 03:44.52 | grimau | hi, is this package not moving into testing because of a self-dependence? is this a bug? a new version of hydrogen depends on it, im just being curious. http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=liblash2 |
| 03:45.18 | zenker | simonlnu, short term memory loss? |
| 03:45.44 | zenker | is not feeling very welcome in this room |
| 03:46.29 | dvs | !ubuntu |
| 03:46.29 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 03:47.44 | zenker | SIMONLNU im NOT talking about installing ubuntu here, im asking if/how/what i need to do to install on a disk already containing vista and ubuntu |
| 03:48.02 | zenker | is anyone else here that can help me? |
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| 03:48.27 | simonlnu | zenker: keep yelling at me and i'll just put you on /ignore |
| 03:48.29 | EmleyMoor | Are you intending to keep eitherr of those other systems? |
| 03:48.48 | zenker | EmelyMoor yes for now. i will in the future get rid of ubuntu |
| 03:49.41 | simonlnu | well, how do you expect to install debian if you're not making room for it? |
| 03:50.20 | zenker | im having too many issues w the different versions of python and ffmpg and all those other things i need for ubuntu |
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| 03:50.30 | zenker | to run blender |
| 03:50.45 | zenker | simonlnu are you moderator of this room? |
| 03:50.57 | simonlnu | that's not relevant |
| 03:51.22 | grimau | zenker: if that is the sole reason, you can run blender directly from ubuntu |
| 03:52.26 | zenker | ty grimau i know blender its self runs beautifully but only because its in its native environment, however, stuff for ffmpg, python and a few others are too buggy for my sys |
| 03:53.05 | zenker | debian is supposed to be more stable, thats why i want 2 try it out b4 i make a full commitment, im willing to give up some of vista |
| 03:53.15 | zenker | 's partition but i cant fig out how |
| 03:53.20 | zenker | too noob ;( |
| 03:53.34 | grimau | zenker: ok. you might want to run gparted in order to create a new partition for debian |
| 03:54.08 | zenker | gparted? is that the partition manager u dl and run from disk to manage them? |
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| 03:54.33 | simonlnu | you need to resize it. you'll have to run an fsck and defragment the vista ntfs |
| 03:54.48 | simonlnu | from vista is much safer |
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| 03:55.04 | zenker | defrag is done ahhh so use vistas manager, |
| 03:55.11 | EmleyMoor | Obviously you need something that can resize NTFS. If gparted can do it, then that's good. There is a gparted/part magic live CD - it's actually supplied on the Ultimate Boot CD among others. Hovewer, to be sure, working from Vista would be safer... |
| 03:55.21 | simonlnu | yes, otherwise you'll get data loss |
| 03:55.31 | zenker | good looking out ty |
| 03:55.34 | ttuttle|web | Hi. I just installed squeeze, and I'm trying to figure out how to disable a service I've installed. (I have bitlbee but want it to run under inetd, so I don't want the init script to start.) |
| 03:55.56 | Hydroxide | EmleyMoor, simonlnu, zenker: uh, debian's installer has been able to resize ntfs for quite a while now... (as have most distros) |
| 03:56.11 | EmleyMoor | thought so... |
| 03:56.13 | Hydroxide | without a need for advance defragging either |
| 03:56.20 | zenker | Hydroxide, thats what i have read but i dont understand what to do to use it that way |
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| 03:56.45 | simonlnu | Hydroxide: ok. i haven't used it in a while ;) |
| 03:57.00 | Hydroxide | zenker: it's a bit non-obvious in the UI, I agree. you can choose the size of the ntfs partition as if it were a menu item, and resize it there |
| 03:57.04 | ttuttle|web | Do I want to just change the bitlbee links in /etc/rc*.d to start with K01 instead of S02? |
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| 03:57.43 | simonlnu | you can just do update-rc.d disable bitlbee |
| 03:57.54 | zenker | im gonna get the installer back to that point and minimize it. ill brb |
| 03:58.08 | Hydroxide | zenker: assuming it works as expected, it will only allow you to resize to acceptable sizes, and will schedule windows to check the filesystem next time you boot into it |
| 03:58.26 | Hydroxide | zenker: I'm not going to be paying attention here, sorry, but I"m sure others can help you (maybe with reference to the installation manual) |
| 03:58.30 | Hydroxide | good luck |
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| 04:05.39 | grimau | hi, is this package not moving into testing because of a self-dependence? is this a bug? http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=liblash2 |
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| 04:20.57 | WoLeGeQu | Hello |
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| 04:31.05 | ROKO__ | hello |
| 04:31.09 | ROKO__ | how to fix that bug |
| 04:31.10 | ROKO__ | [ 24.552980] WARNING: at fs/fs-writeback.c:1122 __mark_inode_dirty+0xec/0x156() |
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| 04:36.19 | ROKO__ | here http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-38-7711163-1-0-1-0-kernel-endommage.htm have same question |
| 04:36.24 | ROKO__ | but i'm don't know french |
| 04:38.58 | ROKO__ | do you tell me a sollution ? |
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| 04:42.05 | p0pc0rninj4 | debian users are gay enought to not use backtrack |
| 04:42.06 | p0pc0rninj4 | :D |
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| 04:42.51 | ROKO__ | ? |
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| 04:43.32 | dynamite | yeah, that made extraordinary sense, p0pc0rninj4 |
| 04:43.39 | p0pc0rninj4 | :D |
| 04:43.44 | ROKO__ | how to fix that bug |
| 04:43.47 | ROKO__ | [ 24.552980] WARNING: at fs/fs-writeback.c:1122 __mark_inode_dirty+0xec/0x156() |
| 04:43.49 | ROKO__ | here http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-38-7711163-1-0-1-0-kernel-endommage.htm have same question |
| 04:43.52 | p0pc0rninj4 | i love u guys! |
| 04:43.54 | ROKO__ | but i'm don't know french |
| 04:44.03 | p0pc0rninj4 | ubuntu is for n00bs! |
| 04:44.05 | p0pc0rninj4 | fuck them all! |
| 04:44.06 | p0pc0rninj4 | :D |
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| 04:44.07 | ROKO__ | do you tell me a sollution ? |
| 04:45.17 | dynamite | ROKO__: there is also english hits to that error |
| 04:45.22 | dynamite | use google |
| 04:45.28 | ROKO__ | dynamite i use google |
| 04:45.31 | ROKO__ | and ask you |
| 04:45.34 | ROKO__ | for sollution |
| 04:45.36 | ROKO__ | ... |
| 04:45.39 | ROKO__ | debian squeeze |
| 04:45.53 | dynamite | google tells you the solution. |
| 04:45.54 | ROKO__ | after some hours or minutes kernel freezes |
| 04:46.06 | ROKO__ | dynamite cannot find sollution in google |
| 04:46.14 | ROKO__ | give me link in this case |
| 04:46.48 | dynamite | also - this is marked "warning" |
| 04:46.57 | ROKO__ | where ? |
| 04:47.05 | dynamite | check your paste? |
| 04:47.33 | ROKO__ | what for my paste ? |
| 04:47.44 | dynamite | 06:43:47 < ROKO__> [ 24.552980] WARNING: <--- |
| 04:47.50 | ROKO__ | so ? |
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| 04:47.56 | dynamite | WARNING != ERROR |
| 04:48.02 | ROKO__ | i know |
| 04:48.09 | ROKO__ | so tell me how solve it |
| 04:48.10 | ROKO__ | .. |
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| 04:48.22 | dynamite | I dont know. |
| 04:48.50 | dynamite | try translating the french link? |
| 04:48.59 | ROKO__ | i tryed |
| 04:49.11 | ROKO__ | it says ... |
| 04:49.15 | ROKO__ | bad hdd sectors |
| 04:49.24 | ROKO__ | missing drivers that kernel try to load |
| 04:49.34 | ROKO__ | hdd is okay |
| 04:49.38 | ROKO__ | not bad sectors |
| 04:49.47 | dynamite | how do you know? |
| 04:50.23 | lost_soul | have you tested the drive with the utilities from the manufacturer? |
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| 04:50.51 | dynamite | fsck even? |
| 04:51.06 | cyrus_mc | anyone know if there are any command line tools (or files within proc or sys) that allow you to view what multicast groups an interface is apart of. |
| 04:51.24 | dynamite | ROKO__: use fsck to check your harddrive. |
| 04:51.37 | ROKO__ | i allready done that |
| 04:52.04 | dynamite | cyrus_mc: man smcroute |
| 04:52.12 | cyrus_mc | thank you |
| 04:52.20 | dynamite | yw |
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| 04:54.02 | ROKO__ | dynamite and he tell me all is okay |
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| 04:54.37 | tehrabbitt | is anyone here? it seems that every channel i've been joining has been dead :-\ |
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| 04:55.02 | lost_soul | or perhaps they were just feeling anti-social |
| 04:55.08 | lost_soul | never can tell |
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| 04:55.28 | lost_soul | haha |
| 04:55.43 | dynamite | what did i miss? (: |
| 04:55.56 | lost_soul | not alot dynamite |
| 04:56.01 | dynamite | rite |
| 04:56.18 | lost_soul | 00:45 < ROKO__> dynamite and he tell me all is okay |
| 04:56.25 | dynamite | yeah got that |
| 04:56.26 | lost_soul | if you happened to miss that.. |
| 04:56.28 | lost_soul | kk |
| 04:56.51 | ROKO__ | lost_soul i have no idea how can solve that |
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| 04:58.08 | lost_soul | ROKO__: well, you say you've fsck'd the drive and all is well with it. How about maybe pasting the results on pastebin.com |
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| 04:58.39 | lost_soul | that way dynamite knows it's been completed and can see any messages that comes from it |
| 04:58.45 | ROKO__ | well wait |
| 04:58.48 | dynamite | good idea. |
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| 04:59.52 | allan8904 | hi, in debian how do i get modules to load on boot time |
| 05:00.01 | allan8904 | there doesnt seem to be an /etc/modules.conf |
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| 05:00.43 | I-are- | how do I create a file that list the contents of a directory from the command line? is it ls -> cat filename.txt? |
| 05:01.08 | lost_soul | ls > filename.txt |
| 05:01.15 | I-are- | lost_soul, thanks |
| 05:01.22 | lost_soul | cat filename.txt to view it |
| 05:01.24 | ROKO__ | but now i cannot fsck |
| 05:01.26 | lost_soul | np |
| 05:01.33 | ROKO__ | Partition /dev/sda1 is mounted with write permissions, cannot check it |
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| 05:08.22 | ROKO__ | dynamite debian have problems with reiserfs ? |
| 05:08.45 | dynamite | no |
| 05:08.46 | dynamite | never had |
| 05:09.01 | lost_soul | ROKO__: well, you could always run fsck from a live disc if you happen to have one handy.. Or could fsck it in read only mode but thats generally not the best idea for people unfamiliar with linux |
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| 05:09.58 | ROKO__ | lost_soul pls no throling |
| 05:10.34 | lost_soul | lol, I assure you that isn't trolling. With what you've been asking it's a valid response |
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| 05:12.36 | ROKO__ | just i'm now in rw |
| 05:12.50 | ROKO__ | when kernel freeze again |
| 05:13.00 | ROKO__ | i will fsck in safemode |
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| 05:14.16 | ZykoticK9 | "safemode" gotta love windows lingo |
| 05:14.30 | lost_soul | lol |
| 05:15.15 | dynamite | (: |
| 05:15.36 | ROKO__ | I never used the Windows! |
| 05:15.36 | ROKO__ | I asked you just stop to pick on |
| 05:16.05 | dynamite | Stop acting like a baby |
| 05:16.16 | dynamite | concentrate of fixing the problem |
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| 05:16.43 | joeb_ | hi all |
| 05:16.45 | joeb_ | i want to grep like 10 words in 1 file to see if they are there .. and if they are there i want them to be highlighted .. is this possible ? |
| 05:16.48 | ROKO__ | so you not tell me sollution how solve that problem i'm not kernel developer |
| 05:17.06 | dynamite | ROKO__: this has nothing to do with beeing a kernel developer |
| 05:17.11 | dynamite | joeb_: "highlight"? |
| 05:17.23 | joeb_ | dynamite, i want to grep / egrep or whatever to show that they are there |
| 05:18.21 | dynamite | grep 'word1|word2|word3' /path/to/file |
| 05:18.33 | ROKO__ | If i know what do not you fixed up the flow, I'd fix it |
| 05:18.38 | ROKO__ | ... |
| 05:18.50 | dynamite | ROKO__: fsck your drive. |
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| 05:21.32 | ROKO__ | does have russians here |
| 05:21.37 | joeb_ | thanks |
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| 05:23.05 | Hydroxide | !ru |
| 05:23.05 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here. |
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| 05:25.17 | JairunCaloth | Hey guys I'm having network trouble. http://pastebin.com/SGSsmSLL |
| 05:25.28 | JairunCaloth | Network keeps crapping out |
| 05:25.52 | I-are- | question. I want to see if a webpage that I have setup is working or not, but it is in /home/<username> on my system. how do I load the page from another machine? |
| 05:26.19 | JairunCaloth | Network speed is severly limited and sometimes just stops working altogether. |
| 05:27.36 | mtx_init | JairunCaloth: are you using network manager? If so try and stop using it for a bit. If the problem still persists, then it may be a hardware or driver issue. |
| 05:27.59 | lost_soul | I-are-: well, if you've setup a web server on that machine that isn't chrooted you just setup an alias to the location in your home folder where the page exists. Then you can test it from any system via web browser |
| 05:28.44 | lost_soul | if you haven't setup a web server nor any file sharing such as samba or nfs. Copy the .html file to the machine you wish to test it from and do it that way |
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| 05:28.52 | JairunCaloth | anyone ever see anything like this? |
| 05:28.52 | JairunCaloth | that log is from /var/log/messages |
| 05:29.17 | I-are- | lost_soul, I have a webserver running with php and mysql, I am just not sure I am understanding the bit about the chroot and alias... |
| 05:30.05 | JairunCaloth | mtx_init: good point, I'll try that |
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| 05:30.27 | lost_soul | I-are-: if memory serves me, debian by default doesn't chroot apache. So you likely don't even have to worry about that aspect. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. As far as creating an alias.. one moment and I'll find a link for you |
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| 05:31.37 | mtx_init | JairunCaloth: sometimes network manager goes insane for various reasons. Just do it manual with ifdown/ifup and dhclient |
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| 05:31.57 | icecream | how do i get watch to beep on a different result? |
| 05:32.42 | JairunCaloth | mtx_init: acctually using wicd - not sure why it got pulled in tbh |
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| 05:33.21 | mtx_init | not familiar with that one. Maybe somebody else has though |
| 05:33.31 | JairunCaloth | I just got rid of it |
| 05:33.36 | JairunCaloth | I don't need a network manager |
| 05:33.53 | JairunCaloth | this machine doesn't have wifi |
| 05:34.56 | lost_soul | I-are-: http://www.slackwiki.org/PhpMyAdmin |
| 05:35.14 | I-are- | lost_soul, thanks |
| 05:36.36 | lost_soul | I-are-: np, you'll see where Alias /phpMyAdmin /var/www/phpMyAdmin is.. basically thats somewhat like what you want without the comments and personally I would just allow from all rather than specify. At least until your all setup and working |
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| 05:38.23 | JairunCaloth | still happening :/ |
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| 05:42.02 | geegeegee | if i tar / will it tar the tar in a loop and end up running out of disk space? |
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| 05:43.11 | mtx_init | geegeegee: test it out |
| 05:43.22 | dynamite | geegeegee: neither |
| 05:43.47 | JairunCaloth | huh.... interesting question |
| 05:43.48 | JairunCaloth | I would hope not |
| 05:44.00 | dynamite | thats the way you backup systems :D |
| 05:44.12 | dynamite | although you should choose the tar target wisely |
| 05:44.18 | geegeegee | and it should preserve file permissions? |
| 05:44.29 | dynamite | ofcourse |
| 05:44.37 | JairunCaloth | I think there's a flag for that |
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| 05:46.08 | mtx_init | geegeegee: it depends on the circumstances but usually not, tar just fails and you get a file |
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| 05:48.00 | geegeegee | and if i extracted it to / on another system and installed grub it should work? im trying to doa backup without it taking up as much space as the disks in the system |
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| 05:50.56 | JairunCaloth | the strangest part about all this, I wasn't haveing any trouble until yesterday |
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| 06:15.01 | pif | hi, when plugging my usb key into windows I see an extra partition with read-only executables, but under debian I only see my data partition, any idea why? |
| 06:16.01 | lost_soul | sounds like one of those SanDisks with their own software on it to browse and such when using Windows |
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| 06:16.25 | pif | something like U3, |
| 06:16.40 | lost_soul | yep, that sounds familiar |
| 06:16.55 | pif | I'd like to remove that shit, but how? |
| 06:17.16 | lost_soul | http://u3.sandisk.com/ |
| 06:17.20 | pif | is there some kernel option I'm missing maybe |
| 06:17.21 | pif | ok |
| 06:17.24 | lost_soul | lol, yea.. thats the one |
| 06:18.19 | lost_soul | I know someone who had an older model.. he basically removed the partitions/created one.. formatted it.. no more windows software to run it |
| 06:18.53 | lost_soul | as I said though that was an older model so I'm unsure if you can do that with the newer ones. |
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| 06:19.10 | pif | looking at wikipedia article on the subject |
| 06:19.34 | lost_soul | good luck with it |
| 06:20.09 | pif | ah, debian has u3-tool :) |
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| 06:28.45 | jonpacker | could anyone point me to a good resource on setting up a raid-1 on two sata drives? (not the boot disk) |
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| 06:31.29 | pif | jonpacker: configure your partions as 'fd' type, then 'mdadm -l1 -n3 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1' |
| 06:31.39 | pif | er, -n2 |
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| 06:31.51 | jonpacker | that's it? awesome |
| 06:31.59 | jonpacker | thanks pif! |
| 06:32.03 | pif | sure |
| 06:32.24 | pif | then create your filesystem on resulting /dev/md0 (or md1, etc.) |
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| 06:43.50 | I-are- | I am trying to understand the instructions on the http://www.slackwiki.org/PhpMyAdmin page, but I am not sure that I understand them. Why the tar command at the beginning? |
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| 06:44.43 | lost_soul | I-are-: that is not relevant to what you want.. you should start where I mentioned |
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| 06:46.39 | lost_soul | I-are-: you basically need to add something similar to whats in the box below "Add alias to apache (like at apache-2) and add these lines to phpMyAdmin.conf " |
| 06:46.49 | rdz | hi all. since upgrade to 6.0 the 'ionice' utility is not working anymore. is it working for anyone? |
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| 06:47.10 | lost_soul | but rather than pointing to phpMyAdmin directories you will be pointing to your /home/<username> directories.. etc, etc |
| 06:47.27 | rdz | ionice always says: "ionice: ioprio_set failed: Operation not permitted" |
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| 06:50.37 | I-are- | lost_soul, and if I am running apache2 I use the second box with the </Directory> instead of location tags? |
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| 06:51.03 | calculon | how to use "apt" through proxy? |
| 06:51.05 | lost_soul | I-are-: basically what you need to do is either edit the httpd.conf file and add an alias which will point to where the .html files are stored in your users home directory. Or as they did in the example, you make a seperate config file and include that in the httpd.conf file |
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| 06:52.08 | lost_soul | I-are-: sec, I'll pastebin it |
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| 06:52.53 | I-are- | lost_soul, thanks, sorry I am not picking it up faster... |
| 06:53.01 | uoods | calculon: man apt.conf |
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| 06:54.18 | calculon | ok |
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| 06:55.41 | lost_soul | I-are-: http://pastebin.com/UiKqMXVv |
| 06:56.46 | I-are- | lost_soul, ok, I got that done already, but what about the httpd.conf part? is that only if I create a custom .conf file? |
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| 06:56.54 | lost_soul | those lines will need to be included in the httpd.conf.. or a seperate config file which you'll include in the httpd.conf file |
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| 06:57.33 | lost_soul | I-are-: did you put it in the httpd.conf file? Or a different file? |
| 06:58.14 | I-are- | lost_soul, no I put it in /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf |
| 06:59.06 | I-are- | so I just need to add an include /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf to the httpd.conf file? |
| 06:59.57 | I-are- | lost_soul, otherwise the httpd.conf file in /etc/apache2 is empty... |
| 06:59.59 | lost_soul | lol, yea.. but just so you know you could have named it differently. Such as user.httpd.conf |
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| 07:00.22 | lost_soul | I-are-: the httpd.conf file shouldn't be empty |
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| 07:01.04 | I-are- | I do a sudo nano httpd.conf and it is blank. |
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| 07:01.39 | lost_soul | I-are-: you probabily aren't pointing it to the right location |
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| 07:02.04 | I-are- | aren't pointing what? the alias? or httpd.conf? |
| 07:02.05 | lost_soul | I-are-: I'm not on debian atm.. let me see if I can find where the httpd.conf file is |
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| 07:03.36 | lost_soul | if you type locate httpd.conf what shows? |
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| 07:05.12 | lost_soul | ah, it looks like httpd.conf is depreciated in debian |
| 07:06.03 | I-are- | locate httpd.conf comes back blank too. |
| 07:06.16 | I-are- | the apache2.conf has an include statement for it. |
| 07:06.19 | chattr | lost_soul: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_.28Apache_httpd_2.x.29: and http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DebianDeb0rkification might be helpful |
| 07:06.33 | lost_soul | I-are-: yea, apache2.conf is apparently whats being used now |
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| 07:06.59 | lost_soul | I-are-: so just copy and paste what you put in phpMyAdmin.conf into httpd.conf |
| 07:07.13 | lost_soul | thats already included.. so just use that |
| 07:07.21 | lost_soul | chattr: ty for the link |
| 07:07.24 | chattr | yw |
| 07:08.35 | I-are- | so if I included the path to phpMyAdmin.conf it will not do me any good? |
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| 07:09.24 | lost_soul | it will still work provided you do it properly |
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| 07:10.56 | I-are- | lost_soul, ok. I will restart apache2 and see what happens |
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| 07:11.16 | lost_soul | gl |
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| 07:12.11 | ethanol | morning |
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| 07:12.16 | buhman | is there any method in particular somebody is supposed to get python 2.7 on squeeze? |
| 07:12.16 | mosno | why doesn't emacs23's org-mode timestamp a todo item i close? |
| 07:12.51 | jelly-home | buhman: apart from "build from source in a separate --prefix"? |
| 07:13.07 | mosno | buhman: is it on backports? |
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| 07:13.24 | jelly-home | ,versions python2.7 |
| 07:13.26 | judd | Package python2.7 on i386 -- sid: 2.7.1-6; wheezy: 2.7.1-6 |
| 07:13.36 | jelly-home | mosno: it probably won't be |
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| 07:16.02 | I-are- | I am getting alias directive will not match because of an overlap... |
| 07:16.42 | lost_soul | maybe pastebin your config |
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| 07:18.51 | I-are- | http://pastebin.com/ffivuEfK |
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| 07:20.30 | lost_soul | I-are-: you aren't actually using phpMyAdmin are you? |
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| 07:22.43 | khaleel5000 | hi, on squeeze, whats the command to configure alsa? |
| 07:22.51 | I-are- | lost_soul, I have it installed, but I don't really know how to use it. |
| 07:23.16 | I-are- | lost_soul, so I should just move the team2313 to the httpd.conf and remove the include? |
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| 07:24.34 | lost_soul | I-are-: did you have to create the phpMyAdmin.conf file or was it already there? |
| 07:24.43 | Henoxek | Hello. How could I dynamically limit upload rate in deluged where another applications need to use network? |
| 07:24.54 | I-are- | lost_soul, I did not have to create it, it was there. |
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| 07:26.48 | I-are- | http://pastebin.com/TEFFghJg |
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| 07:26.55 | I-are- | this is what I get when I try to go to the page. |
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| 07:28.31 | lost_soul | I-are-: just curious, did you actually confirm php is working prior to this? |
| 07:28.42 | I-are- | lost_soul, if I have an index.php file in my /home/team2313 directory do I need to add the directory index line? |
| 07:29.23 | I-are- | http://joshua-debian-laptop.dyndns-free.com/test.php |
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| 07:31.02 | lost_soul | I-are-: ok, how about making an index.html file and see if your able to open that |
| 07:31.17 | lost_soul | that will at least verify your able to use files from within that location |
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| 07:33.45 | I-are- | http://joshua-debian-laptop.dyndns-free.com/team2313/ |
| 07:34.25 | lost_soul | lol, well.. that works |
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| 07:34.29 | I-are- | sorry for the language.... |
| 07:34.55 | lost_soul | so it's an issue with php/pear in some regard |
| 07:35.03 | I-are- | well I don't want to think I was insulting you anyway... |
| 07:35.05 | lost_soul | at least for that directory |
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| 07:35.22 | I-are- | lost_soul, could it be an issue with the databases I am trying to run and the index.php file? |
| 07:35.51 | lost_soul | it's no biggie, I know it can be aggrivating |
| 07:36.41 | lost_soul | It shouldn't be an issue with the database.. My guess would be it's something small/annoying |
| 07:36.50 | I-are- | lost_soul, I have moved an entire wordpress site from one server to this one, and the URL's in the databases are not setup correctly. |
| 07:36.54 | ethanol | lost_soul: looks like a permission issue |
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| 07:36.59 | lapsusbrutus | I trying to save some really old data. HD is 1Gb big. I cant seem to get the partition table.. It finds /dev/sdb only and I get : end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 56 ; Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 7 ... What should I try to do to get hand of data? |
| 07:37.01 | ethanol | err, or I-are- ^ |
| 07:37.10 | ethanol | I-are-: but your question would be much more suited for #httpd |
| 07:37.47 | SlayerXP | lapsusbrutus: I would take the disk down to the nearest reputable data recovery firm. |
| 07:38.00 | I-are- | ethanol, thanks I will see what they have to say... thanks for you help lost_soul |
| 07:38.14 | lost_soul | I-are-: np.. good luck with it |
| 07:38.59 | ethanol | I-are-: on a side note, you might want to check /var/log/apache2/error.log (I think it is there) |
| 07:39.04 | khaleel5000 | hi on squeeze, how do you select proper soundcard (alsa is selecting nvidia Hdmi output as sound output, i have intel 8280I sound controller |
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| 07:39.32 | ethanol | I-are-: or the access log |
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| 07:41.38 | lapsusbrutus | That would be Ibas.. they'd charge me for at least 1000$ :) Tried photorec tool.. readerror all over. crap.. I give up then |
| 07:42.03 | I-are- | ethanol, the only error I seem to be getting is a lack of an index.htm, which I fixed, and a lack of a favicon... |
| 07:42.08 | ROKO__ | Well gentlemen, the problem is not in my TV set, see for yourself! |
| 07:42.12 | ethanol | I-are-: weird |
| 07:42.14 | ROKO__ | http://dpaste.org/mwGq/ |
| 07:42.16 | zezu | I've got some weird permissions issue on squeeze, user error i'm sure but ls -l is telling me files are -rwxr-xr-x yet i can't read or execute them ? |
| 07:42.32 | ROKO__ | dynamite lost_soul |
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| 07:43.08 | ethanol | zezu: without the actual commands & errors in a pastebin we cannot provide any feedback |
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| 07:44.10 | zezu | ethanol: sure one sec |
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| 07:45.32 | zezu | I'm sure i'm just blind but ... http://pastebin.com/B9ZyzTPu |
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| 07:46.05 | ROKO__ | dynamite lost_soul and http://dpaste.org/bWLK/ |
| 07:46.07 | ROKO__ | look |
| 07:46.15 | ROKO__ | still have same shits |
| 07:46.25 | ethanol | zezu: is it a mounted folder? |
| 07:46.33 | zezu | ethanol: no |
| 07:47.41 | zezu | I extracted from a tarball and then copied to /usr/share and changed permissions (chown -R root:root to match the rest of the stuff in /usr/share) |
| 07:47.59 | zezu | I thought i just broke a link but seems weird |
| 07:47.59 | cesurasean | how do i upgrade a 32 bit machine to 64 bit squeeze? is it possible? |
| 07:48.04 | ROKO__ | so when will be fixed that kernel bug |
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| 07:48.58 | zezu | cesurasean: might as well do a fresh install for that but its likely possible, you can certainly install from linux w/ debootstrap |
| 07:49.31 | lost_soul | ROKO__: you still haven't provided the fsck information dynamite asked for |
| 07:49.47 | ROKO__ | are you sure ? |
| 07:50.03 | ROKO__ | http://dpaste.org/mwGq/ |
| 07:50.15 | ROKO__ | but what do you think? |
| 07:50.15 | ROKO__ | . |
| 07:50.24 | ethanol | cesurasean: I would reinstall |
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| 07:50.40 | lost_soul | I missed that link, sorry |
| 07:50.59 | zezu | do directories have to be executable ? |
| 07:51.04 | ROKO__ | i'm on reiserfs |
| 07:51.05 | ROKO__ | amd64 |
| 07:51.10 | ROKO__ | fstab options are |
| 07:51.15 | ROKO__ | noatime,notail |
| 07:52.46 | ZykoticK9 | zezu, if a directory isn't executable - you can't go into it. |
| 07:53.25 | zezu | ZykoticK9: thanks |
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| 07:54.04 | zezu | strangely enough changing the permissions on .../linux-x86 to a+x doesn't fail but the change doesn't show ... |
| 07:54.17 | geegeegee | if i tar / , can i extract it to a disk with the same partitions, and it will work aslong as i install grub? |
| 07:54.33 | zezu | scratch that, user error |
| 07:54.46 | zezu | and that was the problem |
| 07:55.18 | zezu | thanks [all] |
| 07:55.59 | ROKO__ | so lost_soul what is your idea |
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| 07:58.20 | I-are- | lost_soul, haha #httpd kick me to #php. What a ride I am having tonight. |
| 07:58.34 | lost_soul | ROKO__: have you been trying to upgrade/replace libcairo2 at all |
| 07:59.01 | lost_soul | I-are-: lol, did you check the log files as suggested at all? |
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| 07:59.14 | ROKO__ | lost_soul what do you mean |
| 07:59.27 | simonlnu | !notail |
| 07:59.41 | I-are- | yes. just a no favimage error and no index.html until I created one, then errors went away. |
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| 07:59.48 | I-are- | #httpd says no pear also... |
| 07:59.53 | lost_soul | ROKO__: I'm seeing similar errors spoken of in this thread http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/7415/howto-font-rendering-like-ubuntu/page/2/ |
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| 08:01.11 | lost_soul | I-are-: maybe try a .php page that doesn't use pear? |
| 08:01.54 | lost_soul | just trying to narrow it down a bit. Once you determine the exact problem I'm sure you'll be able to sort it out |
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| 08:03.05 | upp | hello: how can i send a pictur every mount, to all user on the Ldap domain |
| 08:03.09 | ROKO__ | lost_soul cannot understend anythink |
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| 08:05.35 | lost_soul | ROKO__: well, if you cannot understand what their talking about on that page we have no way to determine if that 'might' be what is causing your issue or not. As I said the errors look similar which to me means it isn't a kernel bug |
| 08:05.56 | ROKO__ | lost_soul i'm not sure |
| 08:05.58 | ROKO__ | ... |
| 08:06.14 | ROKO__ | isn't filesystem corruption |
| 08:06.31 | ROKO__ | and also isn't configuration problem |
| 08:07.26 | lost_soul | unfortunately that doesn't narrow it down much. More information is needed, such as what were you working on when you first experienced it. Have you installed/upgraded any packages lately |
| 08:07.30 | lost_soul | etc, etc |
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| 08:08.12 | ROKO__ | lost_soul nothing just installed squeeze on the box |
| 08:08.19 | ROKO__ | and use stable packages |
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| 08:09.55 | lost_soul | maybe try an apt-get update and an apt-get upgrade.. It likely won't solve the issue but never know |
| 08:10.10 | ROKO__ | i allready tryed |
| 08:10.15 | lost_soul | I've never had the issue so I can only go by what I found on google.. sorry |
| 08:10.16 | ROKO__ | not solve problem |
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| 08:11.55 | Li | Are there known problems with Squeeze and vmware ? |
| 08:12.11 | Li | I lose my network card every few minutes after bootup and until that time I've 99% packetloss |
| 08:12.59 | Bus3rr0r | VMWare/Squeeze seems to run fine for me |
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| 08:14.08 | ROKO__ | Debian has a problem with ACHI? |
| 08:14.09 | ROKO__ | ? |
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| 08:14.37 | Lymia | Know how to get set-language-env to return the locale to English? |
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| 08:15.11 | Li | did you install vmware tools bus ? |
| 08:15.30 | hogren | hello world |
| 08:15.46 | Bus3rr0r | yes |
| 08:16.11 | ROKO__ | http://www.esdebian.org/foro/45128/pequena-duda-sobre-aviso |
| 08:16.12 | ROKO__ | hm |
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| 08:18.30 | disc0very | hi |
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| 08:19.49 | lost_soul | I-are-: looks like you made progress.. php works fine.. so seems to be a pear thing or pear integration |
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| 08:20.40 | I-are- | lost_soul, that is part of it, now I have to edit all the php files that list a different domain and bad username passwords... |
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| 08:22.41 | lost_soul | I-are-: prolly easier to use something like sed to replace what needs to be |
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| 08:23.03 | I-are- | ok. I will have to look up how to use sed... |
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| 08:24.08 | disc0very | is there anyone skilled with ntop ? |
| 08:25.20 | rdz | disc0very, i'd rather ask the question first, then people can still answer if they feel skilled enough |
| 08:25.22 | lost_soul | I-are-: I'm sure I don't need to tell you this, but it might be worth mentioning that it is always a good idea to take some notes as well as bookmark relevant webpages when your doing something new. That way your able to complete the task faster the next time around. |
| 08:25.39 | disc0very | =) |
| 08:26.32 | I-are- | lost_soul, 8) yeah... I try to do that... and then when I have 300 unorganized bookmarks... I need a secretary... |
| 08:26.36 | paolosca | Hi, I have a problem sending an update to a bug report by email. The email is just ignored by bugs.debian.org, is it possible that it's refused because there are a few (3) png screenshots attached? |
| 08:26.56 | lost_soul | I-are-: lol, been there.. |
| 08:27.25 | disc0very | It's few weeks that in a certain time in the night my network monitor notify me a very high latency issue that continues about 10 minutes |
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| 08:28.15 | disc0very | i'm thinking about to use ntop on the gateway to understand if certain hosts are causing this latency by occupyin all the bandwith |
| 08:28.50 | disc0very | i've started the ntop and i can access the gui via web interface |
| 08:29.04 | rdz | disc0very, i'm certainly not a network guru, but it seems unlikely to me that only high traffic is causing 10 min latencies |
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| 08:29.33 | disc0very | rdz, seems to me that there is a network usage that continues for about 10 minutes and it cause the latency |
| 08:30.16 | rdz | disc0very, you mean some connections are blocking other connections completely for 10 minutes? |
| 08:30.22 | disc0very | rdz, i would like to check if there is a specific host inside my network that cause that latency with high traffic |
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| 08:30.38 | lost_soul | I would dare say if it's users causing the latency, you'ld be seeing at times other than night time and it would last longer than 10 minutes. |
| 08:30.52 | lost_soul | but thats just my opinion of course |
| 08:31.16 | disc0very | rdz, not completely, but it could be that upload bandwith is totally getting used and the situation cause a 5 / 6 seconds latency |
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| 08:31.37 | rdz | disc0very, am i understanding right: once this happens, some connections are completely blocked for 10 minutes or are they only lagging a bit during 10 minutes? |
| 08:31.45 | rdz | ah.. i see |
| 08:31.55 | disc0very | My network monitor constantly icmp check some hosts |
| 08:32.07 | disc0very | hosts that are outside the network |
| 08:32.16 | rdz | disc0very, i see |
| 08:32.30 | disc0very | only in a certain time in the night this icmp replies get very high latency |
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| 08:32.41 | disc0very | and the monitor has some rules to notify me this situations |
| 08:33.28 | disc0very | it's like there is some process from inside the network that fill all the bandwith during that times |
| 08:33.53 | disc0very | or the ISP is having some weird issue on the network, my wan side (wich i really doubt) |
| 08:34.03 | rdz | disc0very, i once read about too big buffers in routers causing behaviour like this... if a certaain connection completely fills the buffer, the data of other connections is put at the end of line and take a while until it is actually sent |
| 08:34.23 | disc0very | yes it's normal when the upload bandwith is completelly filles |
| 08:34.24 | ROKO__ | i don't know but problem may be solved |
| 08:34.26 | disc0very | filled |
| 08:34.41 | ROKO__ | i will show you latter if have again same problem |
| 08:34.43 | disc0very | I just want to clarify myself who is causing this latency / bandwith usage :) |
| 08:35.24 | disc0very | since the monitor notify me the same latency in the same time everyday i believe there is some process in some of my hosts that is making this situation |
| 08:35.24 | rdz | disc0very, ok |
| 08:35.40 | disc0very | i thought to use ntop to discover what host inside the network could cause this |
| 08:36.25 | disc0very | needs a bottle of coffee |
| 08:36.27 | rdz | disc0very, there is also jnettop, which works CLI |
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| 08:36.52 | disc0very | rdz, i don't know if i can install that package on the gateway |
| 08:36.59 | rdz | ah.. i see |
| 08:37.05 | rdz | the gateway is a debian? |
| 08:37.11 | disc0very | it's a pfsense |
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| 08:37.36 | lost_soul | pftop is nice |
| 08:38.07 | rdz | disc0very, how is your question related to debian? |
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| 08:38.35 | lost_soul | if it's available for pfsense.. I dunno, never used it.. use openbsd's pf for my firewall |
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| 08:39.02 | lost_soul | offtopic, sorry.. but figured it was worth a mention since it was brought up |
| 08:39.59 | disc0very | rdz, as long as debian users are usually skilled 360° :) |
| 08:41.22 | rdz | disc0very, sorry, i don't know pfsense devices at all...but i'm sure, that whatever tool you use to monitor traffic, it should be pretty clear, which process/connection is eating up your upload bw |
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| 08:41.28 | Leoneof | hi, in sudo apt-get upgrade, i see many updates for packages, the question is how to see what's new in these packages? |
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| 08:42.58 | lost_soul | disc0very: it wouldn't hurt to ask in #pfsense or #freebsd as well, I'm sure you'll find some skilled users in either location. |
| 08:44.15 | disc0very | yes yes thanks |
| 08:44.19 | daemonkeeper | rdz: Debian kFreeBSD supports pf |
| 08:44.23 | disc0very | rdz, the monitor is not on the gateway:) |
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| 08:45.57 | lost_soul | lol, I gotta say disc0very. That doesn't make sense with your reply earlier |
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| 08:47.14 | Leoneof | anyone? |
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| 08:48.26 | lost_soul | Leoneof: http://changelogs.debian.net/index.php |
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| 08:54.00 | Leoneof | lost_soul: thanks |
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| 08:54.36 | lost_soul | Leoneof: np.. their might be an easier method of which I'm just not aware of |
| 08:55.17 | lost_soul | anyways.. long day, I'm off.. Enjoy your evening everyone!! |
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| 09:00.20 | MeglaW | ansökte just till konvux, aplodera mej. |
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| 09:11.01 | etenil | Hi there |
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| 09:12.31 | metroid | :P |
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| 09:13.10 | etenil | I don't manage to blacklist a module from my system. I've inserted a blacklist rule in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and an individual file for the module /etc/modprobe.d/kvm.conf and /etc/modprobe.d/kvm_intel.conf, then ran depmod -ae and update-initramfs, but to no avail. Could someone help? |
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| 09:16.26 | DJT | aptitude has a little more features than apt, right? I just installed squeeze - guess I should stick to aptitude for everything, right? |
| 09:17.10 | timo | aptitude is pretty good. I believe it can resolve dependencies and conflicts better than apt-get |
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| 09:17.57 | DJT | As far as I undersood, they both use the same database for packages and *can* be mixed, but it is not recommended, right? |
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| 09:18.23 | daemonkeeper | !why aptitude |
| 09:18.23 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades (lenny->squeeze) apt-get is better though. Be careful. |
| 09:18.46 | DJT | Then I will stick to aptitude for now only =) |
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| 09:20.20 | timo | DJT: they use the same database, yes. and can be mixed. but aptitude has all the features that apt-get has, so there's probably no reason to |
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| 09:23.17 | dagni | hi |
| 09:23.21 | dagni | i migrated from WindowMaker to Gnome, tho it's very good, i'm missing popup menu when i hit my defined shortcut (lets say F12 = popup menu, then arrow down, enter -- and my xterm is running) also if this is possible, is it possible to add custom launchers to that popup menu ? |
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| 09:29.34 | patrykr | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:29.40 | Amnesia | hm, there's a bug in openssh-server from the squeeze repos afaik |
| 09:29.43 | Amnesia | adduser: The GID 65534 does not exist. |
| 09:30.16 | Amnesia | hm, there's a bug in openssh-server from the squeeze repos afaik |
| 09:30.17 | Amnesia | adduser: The GID 65534 does not exist. |
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| 09:34.08 | DJT | What is the difference between aptitude purge pkg and aptitude remove pkg |
| 09:34.21 | metroid | is there anyway to copy files to a usb port without changing the read write and executable aspects |
| 09:34.24 | metroid | of the file |
| 09:36.33 | patrykr | DJT: purge removes all files related t package |
| 09:37.21 | DJT | patrykr: Thanks... digging through the docs here... some things still a bit confusing... but I will manage =) |
| 09:37.22 | Amnesia | anyone on: "adduser: The GID 65534 does not exist." |
| 09:37.30 | Amnesia | definitly seems like a bug |
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| 09:38.07 | Amnesia | making a group with the gid 65534 solves it |
| 09:38.13 | Amnesia | so why doesnt dpkg make the group? |
| 09:38.19 | jelly | Amnesia: that group is present on Debian by default. |
| 09:38.20 | Bushmills | Amnesia: what does id nobody show? |
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| 09:39.27 | Amnesia | ah |
| 09:39.28 | jelly | Amnesia: if "nogroup:x:65534:" it's not there in "getent group" output, that probably means an admin deliberately removed it |
| 09:39.30 | Amnesia | havent got that group:) |
| 09:39.37 | Bushmills | what debian are you running? |
| 09:39.39 | Amnesia | I removed it yes |
| 09:39.42 | Amnesia | squeeze |
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| 09:39.54 | jelly | don't do that then |
| 09:39.58 | Amnesia | :) |
| 09:39.58 | daemonkeeper | If you did remove the group intnetionally, why do you blame Debian? ;) |
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| 09:40.06 | daemonkeeper | *intentionally |
| 09:40.39 | Amnesia | I didnt know that gid was from nobody |
| 09:40.41 | Amnesia | :) |
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| 09:41.10 | jelly | Amnesia: the policy lists reserved groups and users. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html, 9.2.2 |
| 09:41.10 | Bushmills | it isn't |
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| 09:41.58 | Amnesia | User nobody. The corresponding gid refers to the group nogroup. |
| 09:42.00 | Amnesia | nogroup:) |
| 09:42.01 | jelly | erm. That paragraph doesn't list reserved uids/gids, but classes of |
| 09:42.01 | Amnesia | thx |
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| 09:42.43 | Amnesia | 65534: |
| 09:42.43 | Amnesia | User nobody. The corresponding gid refers to the group nogroup. |
| 09:43.24 | Argafal | hi folks, i was just wondering if anyone here uses the console music player cplay. some folks (amongst them me) took a development again and we were just curious if we are the only ones using it. |
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| 09:44.10 | Amnesia | jelly: whats the uid for nobody by default:)? |
| 09:44.22 | Bushmills | http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=cplay |
| 09:44.32 | Amnesia | 65534 ? |
| 09:45.03 | Argafal | Bushmills: yes, that's what i'm looking at as well. but it would be even cooler to meet someone who likes it besides the three people i know from the mailinglist. ;) |
| 09:45.34 | cantido | Is there something like cron.. but retries jobs if they fail? I have a backup to another machine daily but sometimes that other machine might not be on or NFS not working so I want it to keep retrying |
| 09:45.49 | jelly | Amnesia: yes |
| 09:46.07 | Amnesia | jelly: user sync has the uid of 65534 here |
| 09:46.56 | Amnesia | hm |
| 09:47.13 | jelly | Amnesia: fix that. |
| 09:47.15 | Amnesia | never knew a multiple groups could have the same id |
| 09:47.21 | Amnesia | multiple users* |
| 09:47.28 | ZykoticK9 | Amnesia, are you sure sync doesn't have uid 4 and gid 65534? |
| 09:47.32 | jelly | sync:x:4:65534:sync:/bin:/bin/sync |
| 09:47.37 | Amnesia | yeah:) |
| 09:48.04 | jelly | yeah you're sure, or yeah you're misreading the passwd entry? |
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| 09:48.55 | Amnesia | jelly: it's also 65534 at you? |
| 09:48.59 | dagni | yeah let's rock'n'roll |
| 09:49.23 | Bushmills | Amnesia: jelly: sync:x:>>4<<: |
| 09:49.50 | Amnesia | ah sorry |
| 09:49.55 | Bushmills | sue your optician |
| 09:49.58 | Amnesia | that 65534 is the main member:) |
| 09:50.25 | Amnesia | default group* |
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| 09:50.43 | Amnesia | sorry^^ |
| 09:51.23 | patrykr | i have debian server, and few pages not work in lan |
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| 09:51.45 | Bushmills | memory pages? |
| 09:51.50 | Bushmills | man pages? |
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| 09:52.02 | ZykoticK9 | web pages? |
| 09:52.24 | Bushmills | reasonable guess |
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| 09:53.20 | ZykoticK9 | Bushmills, i'm kinda curious what "debian server" is, or is that "a debian server" perhaps? |
| 09:54.35 | Bushmills | ZykoticK9: probably some tasksel choice |
| 09:55.07 | ZykoticK9 | Bushmills, i had not thought of that. |
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| 10:02.42 | ragnar76 | hi all |
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| 10:04.45 | ragnar76 | got some heavy trouble. i made an update ( on wheezy ) a few minutes ago and a new kernel has landed. Now, i can only work on console. X is not starting. anyone knows what's wrong and how do i X back? |
| 10:05.50 | kgoetz | ragnar76: only the kernel got updated, or initscripts too? |
| 10:05.54 | daemonkeeper | See your Xorg.0.log for hints |
| 10:06.40 | ragnar76 | kgoetz: i don't know for sure. i know a new kern, libc and a couple of other packages. |
| 10:07.02 | ragnar76 | daemonkeeper: i did already. no (EE) line or such |
| 10:09.07 | ragnar76 | i mean, it seems to work. my monitor informs me "out of range" |
| 10:12.20 | ragnar76 | be right back, starting old kernel to see if that works |
| 10:12.47 | disposable | i created a /dev/md2 raid array a few weeks ago but didn't save it in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf. after a reboot, i now have no access to /dev/md2. mdadm --assemble --scan does nothing for me and i would like to avoid having to recreate it. (even when i try, it warns me that the devices are already a part of a raid array) how do i reconnect he array without rebuilding it? |
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| 10:13.41 | nevyn | mdadm --assemble /dev/md2 <DEVICES> |
| 10:13.50 | nevyn | the mdadm --run /dev/md2 |
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| 10:17.24 | disposable | nevyn: after the first command, i got "md2 : active (auto-read-only) raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1]" in /proc/mdstat. after the second one, i got "mdadm: failed to run array /dev/md2: Device or resource busy" |
| 10:17.29 | ragnar76 | re |
| 10:17.54 | ragnar76 | now i have an error message from kernel: Unknown hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Silicon Image SiI1392 HDMI" "HDA:10ec0662,a0a0064d,00100101 HDA:10951392,ffffffff,00100000" "0xa0a0" "0x064d" |
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| 10:18.17 | disposable | nevyn: the second message appeared in the terminal, no in /proc/mdstat |
| 10:19.01 | nevyn | umm try --start |
| 10:19.09 | nevyn | can never remember start/run |
| 10:19.40 | ragnar76 | anyone knows how to init that hdmi right? |
| 10:19.41 | disposable | nevyn: /proc/mdstat changed from read only to normally looking kind of raid definition, so i think it just needed a few moments and ran it automatically |
| 10:19.48 | disposable | nevyn: thank you |
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| 10:20.17 | nevyn | dinow put it in mdadm.conf |
| 10:21.47 | Ticho | a nice way to do that is to execute /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf |
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| 10:23.43 | desrt | so i don't have a /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
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| 10:24.32 | ragnar76 | brb |
| 10:24.40 | desrt | i'm a bit worried though since i see /lib and /lib64 are the same dir on my system |
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| 10:27.22 | nevyn | desrt: that's correct |
| 10:27.32 | nevyn | if you're running amd64 |
| 10:27.33 | desrt | ahh. i see. |
| 10:27.35 | desrt | i get a lib32. |
| 10:27.40 | disposable | Ticho: thanks, that's nice too |
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| 10:29.03 | nevyn | desrt: it's something of a bother tho. |
| 10:29.37 | patrykr | I have a debian server, and few pages not work in lan. How can I fix this? |
| 10:29.46 | nevyn | few pages? |
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| 10:30.12 | patrykr | I have a debian server (dhcpd, bind9, squid, sarg, samba), and few pages not work in lan. How can I fix this? |
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| 10:32.11 | jelly | patrykr: what does "few pages" mean? |
| 10:32.29 | jelly | web pages? Hosted by you? Hosted elsewhere? Which ones? |
| 10:32.38 | jelly | !ask |
| 10:32.38 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 10:32.52 | patrykr | no, simply webpages |
| 10:33.15 | lusotux | patrykr, can you dns resolution ? |
| 10:33.28 | lusotux | sorry can you get dns resolution |
| 10:33.44 | lusotux | like does nslookup google.com work ? |
| 10:33.45 | patrykr | lusotux: dns resolution |
| 10:33.52 | patrykr | lusotux: dns resolution?? |
| 10:33.56 | lusotux | yes |
| 10:34.03 | lusotux | can you resolve anything |
| 10:34.19 | lusotux | does nslookup give you any ip address? |
| 10:34.31 | lusotux | ex : nslookup google.com |
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| 10:34.45 | ragnar76 | fd |
| 10:34.46 | ragnar76 | re |
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| 10:35.06 | patrykr | lusotux: yes |
| 10:35.08 | lusotux | ok |
| 10:35.17 | lusotux | what webpages are not working |
| 10:35.22 | lusotux | give me one example |
| 10:35.25 | patrykr | lusotux: that pages loading to infinity |
| 10:35.39 | ragnar76 | ok, now i have 1 monitor working on vga. how can i enable my second monitor again? |
| 10:35.39 | patrykr | lusotux: allegro.pl |
| 10:36.00 | lusotux | ok |
| 10:36.21 | lusotux | so when you type nslookup allegro.pl what does your dns server give you |
| 10:37.06 | patrykr | lusotux: Server:208.67.222.222 |
| 10:37.06 | patrykr | Address:208.67.222.222#53 |
| 10:37.06 | patrykr | Non-authoritative answer: |
| 10:37.06 | patrykr | Name:allegro.pl |
| 10:37.06 | patrykr | Address: 193.23.48.134 |
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| 10:38.26 | patrykr | lusotux: I have something like this: router+DLS -> debian router-> lan |
| 10:38.50 | lusotux | ok |
| 10:39.12 | ROKO__ | was is das |
| 10:39.13 | ROKO__ | http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ |
| 10:39.13 | patrykr | lusotux: When I'm in lan that pages loading to infinity, but when I connect to router+dls everything is ok |
| 10:39.20 | ROKO__ | :D |
| 10:39.33 | lusotux | can you turn off squid |
| 10:39.36 | lusotux | and test |
| 10:39.55 | patrykr | I'd try |
| 10:40.04 | simonlnu | !paste |
| 10:40.04 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 10:40.37 | patrykr | lusotux: at clean system only with routing was the same |
| 10:40.53 | lusotux | same thing ? |
| 10:41.12 | patrykr | lusotux: yes |
| 10:41.27 | lusotux | cant you paste on pastebin your firewall script |
| 10:41.31 | lusotux | plz |
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| 10:43.08 | lusotux | ROKO__, porn-get ... just made my day .... LOL |
| 10:43.24 | ROKO__ | xD |
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| 10:44.11 | patrykr | lusotux: http://pastebin.com/a8N9e2WY |
| 10:44.45 | patrykr | lusotux: now I use that script |
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| 11:00.04 | wolfpython | Is this url(http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.178.10.4.tar.bz2) useable ? I want to install the bcm4312 driver and firmware , but when aptittude gets the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer,it turns to download the resource the above url points to, but fails . |
| 11:01.34 | thinksteve | Hi there, I want to install squeeze into a present luks lvm. Is there a way to unlock it in debian installer? |
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| 11:02.28 | ragnar76 | re |
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| 11:05.05 | thinksteve | Sry, didn't notice cryptsetup was present. |
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| 11:05.34 | aminpy | how to disable touchpad? |
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| 11:07.14 | foetus | hy. |
| 11:07.19 | wolfpython | aminpy: which desktop envionment are you using ? |
| 11:07.27 | aminpy | wolfpython, yes |
| 11:07.48 | wolfpython | if gnome , system --> mouse --> touchpad |
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| 11:09.28 | aminpy | it has Disable touchpad while typing, it doesn't have disable touchpad |
| 11:09.34 | aminpy | wolfpython, ^ |
| 11:09.56 | desrt | aminpy: easy. don't stop typing. |
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| 11:10.37 | aminpy | desrt, I wan't disable touchpad |
| 11:10.50 | foetus | a question -- is there any support for the new atheros gigabit lan controller? i have compiled the 2.6.32-31 kernel, the driver is loading, but nothing happens. i have no eth0 this time. it is a onboard (asus) lan. |
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| 11:12.06 | winnie_ | aminpy: http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/ |
| 11:12.11 | foetus | must be atl1 or something.. |
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| 11:12.44 | abrotman | My BIOS had a way to disable my touchpad .. but I wanted it permanently off |
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| 11:13.38 | ajikeshi__ | abrotman, unplug it |
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| 11:13.56 | abrotman | ajikeshi__: it was a brand new laptop .. wasn't really in the mood to crack the case |
| 11:14.15 | ajikeshi__ | mhh |
| 11:14.56 | foetus | surely a nice amibios :) |
| 11:15.14 | foetus | or phoenix |
| 11:15.21 | Bushmills | foetus: that'S the AR8152? |
| 11:15.34 | winnie_ | aminpy: go into a terminal and type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak" to backup that file just in case, then do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to open it up with write priviliges. find Section "InputDevice" and under there add Option "SHMConfig" "on" |
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| 11:16.26 | winnie_ | after that you should be able to disable by running "synclient TouchpadOff=1" |
| 11:16.31 | abrotman | foetus: lenovo laptop |
| 11:16.34 | Karen_m | is it ok to 'purge' your linux-images (the old ones?) or should I just 'remove' them so that it keeps the configs around? will a purge remove a current config? |
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| 11:17.09 | abrotman | Karen_m: you can purge them .. |
| 11:17.11 | foetus | bushmills: no, a p5g41lx microatx. |
| 11:17.25 | Bushmills | foetus: the wlan controller, i mean. lspci |
| 11:17.47 | foetus | bushmills: oh, wait.. |
| 11:18.03 | abrotman | Karen_m: I don't believe they generalyl have conffiles anyway |
| 11:18.11 | foetus | must connect power.. |
| 11:18.27 | thinksteve | cryptsetup can't open my lvm because the installer kernel is missing aes-xts-plain cipher support, argh |
| 11:19.59 | Karen_m | abrotman, is there a way to see the 'changelog' from the newer kernels to see if i do need to reboot? turns out i'm on -25 and i see -28 |
| 11:20.29 | abrotman | Karen_m: aptitude changelog .. or /usr/share/<package>/changelog or packages.debian.org |
| 11:21.02 | abrotman | Karen_m: but are you sure oyu're purging the right packages? |
| 11:21.22 | Karen_m | I did; uname -a, see which kernel i am on and purging the older ones :) |
| 11:21.40 | abrotman | Karen_m: you probably want to purge the ones you don't see with 'uname -r' .. not uname -a |
| 11:21.58 | foetus | bushmills: it is a attansic 1063. |
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| 11:22.30 | Karen_m | abrotman, yeah that's the field i am looking at in uname -a, works so far lol |
| 11:22.33 | Karen_m | thank you eh |
| 11:22.44 | foetus | bushmills: not wlan. gigabit ethernet level 1. |
| 11:22.48 | abrotman | Karen_m: just taht the uname -r isn't quite the same as the "package version" |
| 11:23.09 | Bushmills | foetus: atl1e module that should be |
| 11:23.09 | Karen_m | what do you mean? |
| 11:23.27 | foetus | bushmills: well. |
| 11:23.29 | Bushmills | ehm yes. ethernet, sure |
| 11:23.51 | abrotman | Karen_m: cat /proc/version .. the first version string is the kernel version/ABI version .. the second in () is the package verseion |
| 11:23.55 | abrotman | roughly |
| 11:24.06 | foetus | bushmills: ok. thanks. |
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| 11:25.02 | Karen_m | i see that same value on uname -a |
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| 11:25.23 | abrotman | Linux version 2.6.32-5-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-31) (ben@decadent.org.uk) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Mon Mar 7 21:35:22 UTC 2011 |
| 11:25.33 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:25.41 | abrotman | 2.6.32-31 is the package version |
| 11:26.02 | abrotman | or source version is probably more accurate |
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| 11:26.31 | Karen_m | oh i see what you mean lol, i didn't notice i was on my ubuntu server |
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| 11:26.39 | Karen_m | i have 2 servers, thought i was doing this on the debian one.. i see what you mean now! |
| 11:26.51 | Karen_m | on ubuntu, the second param is the package name, i see what you mean with /proc/version lol, very nice thank you! |
| 11:27.31 | superstraw | when I run tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 I get the message Bad Magic number in superblock... yet everything is running fine, fresh debian install as of a month or so, what gives? |
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| 11:29.00 | Bushmills | superstraw: do disktype /dev/sda1 |
| 11:29.24 | Bushmills | 2nd line might be interesting |
| 11:29.37 | superstraw | hmm, don't have that program... as far as I know it's ext3 though. lemme confirm |
| 11:29.54 | superstraw | it's mounted as ext3 |
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| 11:30.28 | superstraw | aahhhhhh |
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| 11:31.11 | Bushmills | famous last cry |
| 11:31.13 | superstraw | ha thank you Bushmills for making me point out to myself I need to wake up with some coffee. |
| 11:32.28 | superstraw | thanks, all is fine in Florida now. |
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| 11:42.42 | foetus | ah, they have linux drivers for the atl1e at asus.com..interesting |
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| 11:52.13 | mostel | hey guys, i just upgraded from lenny to squeeze and i encounter a strange problem. once i get to login screen, i give my username and password and after that, there's only a grey screen with the cursor, nothing else. any ideas ? |
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| 11:54.42 | abrotman | mostel: did you install a WM and the 'xorg' package? |
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| 11:56.07 | mostel | i followed the intstructions here http://bit.ly/dPSUFi |
| 11:56.16 | mostel | i think they must have been installed |
| 11:56.44 | _znull | hello, http://pastie.org/1782441 i'm running debian6. any ideea. |
| 11:57.06 | masterkorp | when i run " apt-get "masterkorp ~" 07:56 11-Apr-11 |
| 11:57.09 | masterkorp | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:57.17 | abrotman | mostel: you could .. double check .. |
| 11:57.28 | mostel | how ? |
| 11:57.39 | abrotman | how do you normally check to see if your package is installed? |
| 11:57.53 | abrotman | _znull: it tells you .. that package is missing LSB tags ... /msg dpkg lsb tags |
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| 11:58.16 | masterkorp | when i run : apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev i dont get the kernel update |
| 11:58.20 | masterkorp | any help ? |
| 11:58.24 | mostel | suppose it is, do you have any other ideas with this could be happening ? |
| 11:58.41 | mostel | i'm gonna check it in a while for sure though |
| 11:58.55 | masterkorp | my kernel version is .26 instead of .32 |
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| 12:00.12 | masterkorp | any sugestion ? |
| 12:00.15 | abrotman | mostel: check that first |
| 12:00.28 | abrotman | masterkorp: what is your current uname -r ? |
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| 12:01.18 | masterkorp | abrotman: i am using the 2.6.26-6 |
| 12:01.23 | masterkorp | *s |
| 12:01.25 | masterkorp | 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 12:01.27 | mostel | abrotman, thanks. i'm gonna check it and come back ! brb! |
| 12:01.28 | masterkorp | sorry |
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| 12:02.06 | vk | hello |
| 12:02.07 | abrotman | masterkorp: apt-get install linux-image-686 .. what does it install ? |
| 12:02.35 | vk | hi debian fans |
| 12:02.49 | masterkorp | it says that i have the most recent version installed |
| 12:02.51 | vk | i have little issue with my debian and xorg |
| 12:03.02 | vk | sometimes it does not wake up from suspend |
| 12:03.16 | masterkorp | !give vk erros |
| 12:03.16 | vk | using gnome power manager with fglrx driver |
| 12:03.16 | dpkg | gives vk erros |
| 12:03.21 | masterkorp | !give vk errors |
| 12:03.21 | dpkg | gives vk errors |
| 12:03.32 | masterkorp | dpkg: silly |
| 12:03.32 | dpkg | methinks silly is stupid and weird |
| 12:03.44 | vk | sometimes work and sometimes not |
| 12:03.45 | abrotman | masterkorp: leave the bot alone |
| 12:03.52 | vk | i have to reboot my laptop to get it back |
| 12:03.54 | abrotman | masterkorp: dpkg -l linux-image* |
| 12:03.57 | vk | it has ATI card |
| 12:04.04 | abrotman | vk: please stop hitting the enter key every fourth worrd |
| 12:04.12 | vk | sorry |
| 12:04.21 | abrotman | can't follow that .. must be getting old |
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| 12:04.47 | vk | kernel is 2.6.32 - Linux 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem #1 SMP |
| 12:05.00 | vk | could you point me where to look at? |
| 12:05.10 | masterkorp | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/gSKA1W1D |
| 12:05.24 | abrotman | masterkorp: you left off the * |
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| 12:06.11 | vk | do you know for any bug related to acpid ? |
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| 12:06.27 | foetus | suggests ftp connections to ftp.asus.com :) ftp drop by drop.. |
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| 12:07.19 | masterkorp | abrotman: sorry, paste fail, http://pastebin.com/d2LsJiBe |
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| 12:08.14 | abrotman | masterkorp: paste your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 12:09.03 | masterkorp | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/nrzW7A7i |
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| 12:09.30 | abrotman | masterkorp: where did you think you were going to get a .32 kernel from? you're pointing at lenny still |
| 12:09.43 | masterkorp | oh |
| 12:09.46 | masterkorp | xD |
| 12:09.51 | masterkorp | i am so stupid |
| 12:09.56 | masterkorp | sorry |
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| 12:09.58 | abrotman | masterkorp: did you want to upgrade to squeeze today? |
| 12:10.04 | masterkorp | yes |
| 12:10.29 | masterkorp | vim /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:10.31 | masterkorp | oops |
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| 12:14.10 | daemonkeeper | Password: |
| 12:14.18 | daemonkeeper | ^^ type your password here |
| 12:14.42 | masterkorp | daemonkeeper: thisismypassword |
| 12:14.50 | masterkorp | oh you found it |
| 12:14.56 | daemonkeeper | su: Authentication failure |
| 12:15.41 | masterkorp | abrotman: i read that if i cahnge lenny to stable in apt sources.list it will keep me always updated with the last distro realese, is that true ? |
| 12:16.00 | abrotman | masterkorp: and really *NOT* recommended .. surprise upgrades are not fun |
| 12:16.01 | daemonkeeper | Yes, but you are discouraged to do that |
| 12:16.21 | Rienzilla | yes, provided you run dist-upgrade once in a while, but I like to know when I run a major upgrade so I keep to the release names |
| 12:16.38 | abrotman | it's a bad idea .. if you don't know the release has happened, bad stuff can happy |
| 12:16.40 | abrotman | happen |
| 12:16.57 | daemonkeeper | I don't remember, but I think there was a nifty factoid summarizing that issue for modern releases |
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| 12:17.05 | daemonkeeper | Maybe someone knows |
| 12:17.21 | Anthlee | abrotman, I find it hard to believe anyone could not know Debian was released, most of us sit and wait for it |
| 12:17.30 | abrotman | Anthlee: i'm telling you .. people have no idea |
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| 12:17.47 | abrotman | Anthlee: sit in here a few days .. someone will come in and say "I'm running Lenny which is Debian Stable" .. |
| 12:17.48 | daemonkeeper | Ah |
| 12:17.50 | daemonkeeper | !stable sources.list |
| 12:17.50 | dpkg | Despite the fact previous installers, countless websites and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list will tell you to do this, do *not* use "stable" in your sources.list; use the release code name instead (e.g. "lenny" or "squeeze"). Upgrading between releases is no longer trivial; make sure you read the <release notes> and ask me about <etch->lenny>, <lenny->squeeze>, <testing sources.list>. |
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| 12:22.11 | SSL` | !lenny sources.list |
| 12:22.11 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main". Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> and "man sources.list". |
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| 12:23.19 | LarsTorben | 7join #linuxsnowlinux |
| 12:23.28 | abrotman | eh .. no |
| 12:23.33 | LarsTorben | sorry |
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| 12:23.37 | LarsTorben | i wanted write / |
| 12:24.06 | patrykr | I have a debian server (squid, sarg, samba, routing) and I cant acces to secure sites from lan |
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| 12:24.41 | abrotman | looks around for llimeht |
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| 12:36.52 | gut23 | hi there, I'm getting these errors when installing mono-runtime. Any tips/solutions? http://pastebin.com/H1J8xHr2 |
| 12:36.57 | gut23 | I'm using aptitude and apt-get |
| 12:37.00 | gut23 | both same errors |
| 12:37.05 | LarsTorben | ok |
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| 12:37.09 | LarsTorben | wheres your problem |
| 12:37.23 | gut23 | are you talking to me LarsTorben? |
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| 12:37.27 | LarsTorben | yess |
| 12:37.31 | LarsTorben | yess |
| 12:37.34 | gut23 | so did you read my pastebin? |
| 12:37.37 | LarsTorben | s |
| 12:37.49 | LarsTorben | ah sorry |
| 12:37.52 | gut23 | :) |
| 12:37.53 | LarsTorben | i dont saw the link |
| 12:37.54 | LarsTorben | :) |
| 12:38.18 | LarsTorben | you use lenny ? |
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| 12:38.23 | gut23 | yeah |
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| 12:38.35 | LarsTorben | oh |
| 12:38.40 | LarsTorben | upgrade to squeeze |
| 12:38.47 | Coudy | hi I can't create xen machine on debian 4.0 > Error: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'rfind' |
| 12:38.55 | gut23 | vz - provider only runs lenny, i cbf updating to squeeze, only for a minecraft server |
| 12:40.37 | wolfric | Where does debian store the settings for slapd? When the ncurses menu asked me for the admin password i put in 123 but there's no mention of that (or a pass hash of that) in /usr/share/slapd/slapd.conf |
| 12:40.56 | wolfric | /window 21 |
| 12:41.02 | daemonkeeper | By policy, configuration must go to /etc |
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| 12:42.38 | ansgar | wolfric: The password is stored in the ldap database itself. |
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| 12:44.46 | wolfric | ansgar: I set it to 123, installed phpldapadmin and logged in with 123 and it comes up with authentication failure |
| 12:44.57 | wolfric | or something along the lines of "your login + pass is wrong" |
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| 12:46.45 | wolfric | Also in the wiki it mentions a menu asking what you want the dns and organisation name to be but i just got a password prompt ( http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/OpenLDAPSetup) |
| 12:47.31 | Leoneof | <wolfric> <-- i see squares, i am missing some fonts? |
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| 12:48.32 | Leoneof | wolfric: what's your language? |
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| 12:49.20 | wolfric | Leoneof: http://tinyurl.com/34o5my8 try that |
| 12:49.35 | wolfric | it's basically the only link to install part of ldap on debian wiki |
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| 12:54.07 | thomasfuston | Aloha, i want to use debian on my desktop too now, i wonder how to install something like flash or mp3 support, i already added "ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org stable main" but cant find anything with apt |
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| 12:54.53 | tvm | thomasfuston: apt-get update, apt-get search <your application> |
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| 12:55.24 | thomasfuston | tvm: already did... but still not found the right packages which should be there if i believe forum or debian-multimedia website |
| 12:55.25 | Anthlee | thomasfuston, # Marillat For info visit http://www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 12:55.25 | Anthlee | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free |
| 12:55.26 | daemonkeeper | Flash is in non-free, as are most mp3 decoder. |
| 12:55.37 | daemonkeeper | No need to add debian-multimedia |
| 12:55.44 | daemonkeeper | At least not for that purpose |
| 12:55.45 | Anthlee | that is the proper apt entry |
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| 12:56.19 | tvm | thomasfuston: you should add non-free to your sources.list also, if you want those apps |
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| 12:57.57 | dvs | really? 500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib amd64 Packages |
| 12:58.05 | ansgar | thomasfuston: mp3 decoders are in main, no need for non-free to have those. |
| 12:58.34 | daemonkeeper | And Flash is in non-free, as mentioned. |
| 12:58.48 | daemonkeeper | s/And/But/ |
| 12:58.52 | thomasfuston | hmm, i still cant find anything in the debian-multimedia.org about flash :P hmm |
| 12:59.07 | daemonkeeper | Because it is in official Debian repositories ... |
| 12:59.34 | daemonkeeper | dpkg: tell thomasfuston about adobe flash |
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| 13:00.16 | superlinux | hi. where does adobe flasgplayer save it's cache? |
| 13:00.28 | thomasfuston | daemonkeeper: i know, i already got the multimedia.org stuff well anyway thx so far :) |
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| 13:02.27 | abrotman | superlinux: ask Adobe |
| 13:02.32 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:03.00 | abrotman | thomasfuston: you should probably use backports.org for flash .. the dmm repos may be illegal where you live |
| 13:03.28 | thomasfuston | hmm abrotman thx for the information |
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| 13:04.11 | daemonkeeper | Change it here http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html#118539 |
| 13:04.35 | abrotman | ha .. URL locked up flash |
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| 13:05.00 | daemonkeeper | abrotman: I don't see Flash on DMM anymore, I guess marillat dropped it, since it is in contrib now? |
| 13:05.11 | abrotman | or in backports.org ? |
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| 13:05.41 | abrotman | or maybe he didn't want to be held liable for packaging crap software with known security issues? |
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| 13:06.17 | daemonkeeper | Well, I was thinking to update the factoid "adobe flash" factoid, since it might be outdated it seems, but I'm not sure about that. |
| 13:06.44 | abrotman | it seems to have a lot of warnings already :) |
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| 13:08.56 | mostel | abrotman, it didn't work mate.. still the same problem with the grey screen and the cursor only :( |
| 13:09.19 | mostel | abrotman, gnome is ok, xorg is ok too |
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| 13:10.57 | DammitJim | I have started getting this error since I did apt-get autoremove: http://pastebin.com/dmXxGg6a |
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| 13:11.07 | DammitJim | I'm not sure what to do to fix it |
| 13:11.43 | abrotman | mostel: tried a new user? a different WM ? |
| 13:12.46 | mostel | abrotman: i didn't try a new user, but i tried a different WM and the problem insisted |
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| 13:13.05 | abrotman | try a different user |
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| 13:13.55 | mostel | abrotman: hm.. ok. i'm going to check it ! thanks once again. brb in a while |
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| 13:15.52 | pmurias_ | what shell does crontab use? |
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| 13:17.53 | jelly | pmurias_: man 5 crontab |
| 13:18.34 | jelly | the paragraph starting w/ "Several environment variables are set up automatically by the cron(8) daemon." |
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| 13:21.15 | pmurias_ | ah, it uses the horrid /bin/sh by default |
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| 13:24.52 | DammitJim | oh wow... wheezy went 2.6.38 |
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| 13:25.38 | LordDoskias | i've installed a package, which then removed with aptitude --purge remove pkg-name |
| 13:25.56 | LordDoskias | and then delete some files manually and now when i want to reinstall the package i get some configuration errors |
| 13:26.01 | LordDoskias | regarding the package's conf file |
| 13:26.03 | abrotman | !tell LordDoskias about confnew |
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| 13:26.05 | abrotman | !tell LordDoskias about confmiss |
| 13:26.08 | abrotman | LordDoskias: which package? |
| 13:26.12 | LordDoskias | heartbeat |
| 13:26.12 | abrotman | !tell LordDoskias about confmiss |
| 13:26.31 | abrotman | which version of Debian ? |
| 13:26.41 | abrotman | and which version of heartbeat |
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| 13:26.57 | LordDoskias | brrr, idk, the one in debian 6 repositories |
| 13:27.25 | LordDoskias | 3.0.3-2 |
| 13:27.33 | abrotman | and which file is missing? |
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| 13:27.42 | LordDoskias | ha.cf which is the main conf file |
| 13:27.59 | LordDoskias | and what is the general way to remove a package with ALL files gone incl. conf docs etc |
| 13:28.12 | abrotman | LordDoskias: you already purged it ... |
| 13:28.12 | LordDoskias | as if it was never installed on the system, becuase after i did remove with --purge i still got some files left |
| 13:28.42 | abrotman | LordDoskias: the commands are "aptitude purge foo" or `apt-get --purge remove foo" |
| 13:28.58 | abrotman | LordDoskias: check /usr/share/doc/heartbeat/ .. there's a sample in there |
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| 13:29.42 | LordDoskias | yep |
| 13:29.54 | abrotman | is that sufficient? |
| 13:30.00 | LordDoskias | i think it i will test now |
| 13:30.02 | LordDoskias | thank you very much |
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| 13:54.45 | DammitJim | yesterday I made the mistake of recompiling for the wrong kernel version |
| 13:55.18 | DammitJim | then when I rebooted my laptop, it didn't come up (there were a ton of messages on the screen) and I didn't know how to see where the errors started |
| 13:55.27 | DammitJim | what is recommended to do in those cases? |
| 13:56.04 | LordDoskias | boot into the previous kernel |
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| 13:56.26 | LordDoskias | it should be on the list of available kernels |
| 13:56.28 | DammitJim | there was no option to boot into the previous kernel... at least grub didn't give me the option |
| 13:56.31 | ZyZ | can you remind me what folder daemons are stored in Debian? |
| 13:57.04 | ZyZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.22 | jelly | ZyZ: dpkg -L packagename will list contents of one package |
| 13:57.25 | daemonkeeper | Nothing but the configuration is stored in /etc |
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| 13:58.01 | DammitJim | I'm totally new to this... does debian testing change kernels often? |
| 13:58.33 | prince_jammys | ZyZ: maybe you mean init scripts at /etc/init.d |
| 13:58.34 | daemonkeeper | In testing, quite a few changes may occur |
| 13:58.42 | jelly | ZyZ: typically, binaries for services would be in /usr/sbin or /sbin; their init scripts would be in /etc/init.d/; read about FHS for more details |
| 13:58.51 | jelly | DammitJim: fairly often, yes |
| 13:58.59 | daemonkeeper | Most likely you don't want to run Testing unless you are an experienced user |
| 13:59.04 | DammitJim | ok, cool... so I'm up to some fun! |
| 13:59.14 | jelly | DammitJim: usually measured in months |
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| 13:59.19 | DammitJim | that's fine |
| 13:59.23 | ZyZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:59.37 | jelly | DammitJim: note that testing has no security coverage |
| 13:59.44 | DammitJim | daemonkeeper, is this not a good way for me to learn? would you recommend me sticking to squeeze for now? |
| 13:59.55 | DammitJim | thank you, jelly |
| 14:00.10 | daemonkeeper | Well, to learn Squeeze is the same |
| 14:00.21 | daemonkeeper | So better use Squeeze, yes. |
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| 14:00.43 | daemonkeeper | Testing enforces you to handle with unstable/possibly broken software packages |
| 14:01.53 | DammitJim | for wheezy, I'd need to do apt-get upgrade to get the latest kernel stuff, right? |
| 14:02.09 | daemonkeeper | If you installed the meta package, yes |
| 14:02.27 | DammitJim | ok, great |
| 14:02.32 | daemonkeeper | That is, linux-image-amd64 or linux-image-i686 |
| 14:02.44 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 14:02.47 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); wheezy: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-31); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-31); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-30~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
| 14:03.10 | jelly | so testing's still at the same kernel as stable |
| 14:03.12 | DammitJim | yeah, I added that |
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| 14:04.16 | DammitJim | why is it that I just installed wheezy and when I did a uname -a, I got 2.6.38...? |
| 14:04.34 | RichiH | is annoyed that the initscripts nmu still is not through |
| 14:04.59 | RichiH | and somehow, md's patch to make udev check if /run is a tmpfs does not seem to help a lot |
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| 14:05.33 | DammitJim | or am I looking at something else? |
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| 14:07.48 | DammitJim | I love the ssh option for the installer in expert mode |
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| 14:08.07 | jkprg | hi. what package or kernel conf provides IGMP querier? Thx |
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| 14:11.02 | DammitJim | judd, wheezy has been upgraded to 2.6.38 as of this morning, so jelly wheezy is no longer the same kernel as stable (squeeze) |
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| 14:12.05 | dvs | !kernel versions |
| 14:12.06 | zgedneil | for a minute there I was trying to figure out if jelly wheezy was some new debian variant :-) |
| 14:12.26 | DammitJim | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=62686 |
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| 14:17.53 | karlpinc | jkprg: debtags is handy for searching for that sort of stuff. See also the <search> factoid. |
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| 14:23.57 | DammitJim | what is the debian-update-6.0.1a...iso? |
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| 14:24.36 | karlpinc | DammitJim: There may not be one. The installer gets updates as part of the install, at minimim the security updates and I think everything else too. |
| 14:24.37 | DammitJim | I'm going to install squeeze... so, I'm downloading debian-6.0.1a-i386-CD-1.iso |
| 14:24.47 | Guest36617 | I'm having trouble with an intel hda codec realtek alc269 under debian testing, I know it works, because it worked for me with ubuntu-live, can anybody help please? |
| 14:24.49 | DammitJim | is that what I should use to do an install? |
| 14:24.57 | DammitJim | I was using netinst for wheezy |
| 14:25.31 | karlpinc | DammitJim: You probably want the netinstall. That way you don't download what you don't need. |
| 14:25.36 | DammitJim | and weird that the expert mode didn't ask me for what I wanted to install.... like graphical interface, ssh, mail, etc |
| 14:26.06 | thinksteve | It does so after installing the base system. |
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| 14:26.10 | karlpinc | DammitJim: And, if you use the netinstall then you don't need to change your sources.list to use the net repos. |
| 14:26.26 | DammitJim | ah, good point, karlpinc |
| 14:26.32 | DammitJim | thinksteve, it didn't ask me :( |
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| 14:38.19 | [XrCT]Creation | good day all |
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| 14:43.03 | chrissbx | I've always renamed the links in /etc/rc*.d/ manually for toggling services, but I know there's some dpkg-reconfigure $package or tool for that, |
| 14:43.14 | chrissbx | and I guess I should move to using that now that dependencies are being tracked. |
| 14:43.21 | jelly | chrissbx: update-rc.d |
| 14:43.22 | petemc | update-rc.d is one way |
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| 14:45.02 | chrissbx | Thanks. |
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| 14:47.53 | jhutchins_lt | rcconf is another. |
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| 14:50.51 | ZykoticK9 | chrissbx, if you're interested - there was a long (informative) post to the ML last week about enabling/disabling services - turns out there is no "official" sanctioned method of doing so!? |
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| 14:51.23 | ali3n0 | ZykoticK9, which ML? debian devs? |
| 14:51.31 | ZykoticK9 | ali3n0, debian-user |
| 14:51.34 | ali3n0 | tnx |
| 14:51.50 | ZykoticK9 | s/post/thread/ |
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| 14:51.56 | [XrCT]Creation | sysvrc-conf is good for adjusting services as well |
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| 14:52.23 | [XrCT]Creation | shows in what runlevel to activate the service |
| 14:53.04 | ZykoticK9 | I was personally surprised by the fact that update-rc.d is not intended for admin user, and only for devel use. |
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| 14:56.45 | jhutchins_lt | Oh, there's also chkconfig. |
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| 14:58.47 | ROKO__ | how can try experimental repo ? |
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| 15:00.11 | jhutchins_lt | !experimental |
| 15:00.11 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
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| 15:01.09 | chrissbx | Thanks for the hint, ZykoticK9 |
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| 15:02.35 | ayambit | how do i diff standart output of a command with a string? |
| 15:02.41 | ZykoticK9 | chrissbx, glad to help |
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| 15:04.50 | dawud | ayambit: diff <(ls -l /one) <(echo string) # you mean this? |
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| 15:05.31 | ddan | ayambit, echo "my_string" | diff - <(echo "my_string2") |
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| 15:05.56 | ddan | ayambit, or diff <(echo "my_string") <(echo "my_string2") |
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| 15:07.50 | ws2k3 | hello guys i have install vmware player on my debian. and i have xfce desktop. but is it possible to remove xfce and run vmware player in console? i have totaly configurated my vm i only want it to run |
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| 15:08.31 | ActionParsnip | ws2k3: add the boot option "text" |
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| 15:15.40 | ayambit | ddan: thanks, that works |
| 15:15.40 | ws2k3 | action how u mean? |
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| 15:17.43 | rooisto47 | hi everybody, |
| 15:17.44 | lapsusbrutus | Im having problem with an old PostScript2(?) printer. Crashed when new fonts are used. Is there a filter in cups that can fix this for me? outting in PS2 fonts that look alike? If there is one by default, what is it called.. It certainly needs a fix on my server at least :) |
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| 15:18.42 | rooisto47 | I have trouble using evolution behind proxy (even I set up the proxy correctly in "evolution" it still don't work) can you help me |
| 15:18.52 | rooisto47 | ?§ |
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| 15:21.20 | abrotman | ws2k3: ask #vmware |
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| 15:22.21 | juniorsa | Hi, I am running lenny and I have a customer that is asking for zend 3.0 or higher and I we have zend 2.2 installed, is there a .deb for zend 3.0 and will it break existing sites that are running on 2.2? |
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| 15:24.44 | ws2k3 | k |
| 15:25.05 | ws2k3 | i have installed webmin but is it true that webmin does not start at bootup? |
| 15:25.18 | jhutchins_lt | !webmin |
| 15:25.18 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
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| 15:30.08 | Zitter | is debian-jr dead? (it seemed interesting) |
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| 15:31.58 | Bushmills | ws2k3: where did you get that package from? |
| 15:32.08 | ActionParsnip | Bushmills: nice nick ;) |
| 15:33.32 | ActionParsnip | Zitter: could check in #debian-jr on irc.debian.org |
| 15:34.19 | lusotux | yeah ActionParsnip goes well with two rocks of ice :D |
| 15:34.45 | Zitter | ActionParsnip, I'm there... me and chanserv ;) |
| 15:35.17 | Zitter | ah, on irc.debian.org.... ok, i try |
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| 15:35.39 | ActionParsnip | lusotux: oh absolutely, specially the white one :) |
| 15:36.08 | lusotux | it's one of my favourites |
| 15:36.09 | lusotux | :P |
| 15:36.26 | lusotux | lusotux loves Bushmills on the rocks !!! :D |
| 15:37.13 | Bushmills | what a shame, ice in it, diluting it |
| 15:37.29 | lusotux | Bushmills, you do have a point |
| 15:38.23 | lusotux | on the other hand my message whould be a little ... weird without the ice :D |
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| 15:40.26 | ActionParsnip | Just drink it quick then, or use superchilled glasses |
| 15:40.26 | Bushmills | no excuse for spoiling a drink |
| 15:40.57 | ActionParsnip | Had some 18 year old Jamesons a while ago. Best think I ever tasted |
| 15:41.13 | lusotux | ActionParsnip, very good too |
| 15:41.27 | ActionParsnip | bam! |
| 15:41.40 | Kull | Emeral? |
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| 15:41.50 | ActionParsnip | Kull: the WM? |
| 15:41.59 | Kull | Emeril, the chef. |
| 15:42.02 | Kull | BAM! |
| 15:42.09 | ActionParsnip | oic, thought you meant Emerald ;) |
| 15:42.27 | Kull | Ew, no. |
| 15:42.31 | ActionParsnip | check out woodford reserve. awesome stuff, real smooth and marshmallowy |
| 15:42.50 | juniorsa | anyone - zend 2.2 --> zend 3.0 debian package? |
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| 15:43.06 | Kull | I like my booze like I like my women, cheap and goes down fast. |
| 15:43.19 | lusotux | looks nice ActionParsnip |
| 15:43.26 | cahoot | marshmallowy whisky? |
| 15:43.32 | lusotux | kull naaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 15:43.33 | Kull | Sounds like a bottle of puke |
| 15:44.02 | ActionParsnip | juniorsa: like this: http://isp-control.net/forum/thread-6838.html |
| 15:44.22 | ActionParsnip | cahoot: its strange but nice |
| 15:44.43 | juniorsa | ActionParsnip: thanks - excellent |
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| 15:45.05 | ActionParsnip | npn :) |
| 15:45.44 | lusotux | you guys need to taste this -> barca velha 1966 tinto |
| 15:46.13 | lusotux | the best red wine on earth !!! |
| 15:47.53 | abrotman | lusotux: try #debian-offtopic |
| 15:47.58 | abrotman | ActionParsnip: and you as well |
| 15:48.10 | abrotman | Zitter: the main guy kind of stepped aside |
| 15:48.15 | DammitJim | !dpkg version |
| 15:48.15 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 15:48.26 | DammitJim | !dpkg release |
| 15:48.26 | dpkg | Squeeze was released on 2011-02-06. Squeeze is Debian 6.0 and is now considered "stable". Ask me about <install debian>, or <lenny->squeeze> to upgrade from Lenny. See http://www.debian.org/releases/ or <release history> for the latest (and historical) releases. For updates from the Debian Release Team, see http://release.debian.org/ |
| 15:48.32 | lusotux | sorry |
| 15:48.37 | DammitJim | sorry |
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| 15:51.26 | DammitJim | how do I ask dpkg what kernel version each release is using? |
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| 15:52.04 | alemani | hello I have and old machine that has a matrox video card, I tried to install the correct driver xserver-xorg-video-mga but apt says that is "set to manually installed" how do I finish the setup? |
| 15:52.49 | DammitJim | man, downloads from ftp.us.debian.org are really slow these days |
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| 15:53.27 | ActionParsnip | DammitJim: use: uname -a to see what kernel is running |
| 15:54.20 | DammitJim | ActionParsnip, no, I want to know for squeeze what kernel, for wheezy, what kernel and so on |
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| 15:55.58 | ActionParsnip | DammitJim: oh i see |
| 15:56.27 | DammitJim | all repos should have the same packages, right? |
| 15:56.42 | DammitJim | I don't know why I get the feeling that ftp.us.debian.org has more packages than mit's |
| 15:56.42 | jhutchins_lt | DammitJim: Theoretically. |
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| 15:57.31 | jhutchins_lt | alemani: That means that the driver was already installed as part of the xserver package. |
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| 15:58.09 | jhutchins_lt | alemani: We'd have to know what is and isn't happening in order to help you. |
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| 15:59.57 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 15:59.58 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); wheezy: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-31); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-30~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
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| 16:00.10 | jelly | DammitJim: some repos might completely skip some architectures, or not carry non-free |
| 16:00.14 | jhutchins_lt | Wow, 38 made it to testing. |
| 16:00.28 | jelly | \o/ |
| 16:00.40 | DammitJim | is there a master? |
| 16:00.44 | jhutchins_lt | senses a backport coming soon. |
| 16:00.46 | DammitJim | who is judd? |
| 16:00.52 | jelly | judd is a bot. |
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| 16:01.02 | DammitJim | LOL, ok |
| 16:01.08 | jelly | !udd |
| 16:01.08 | dpkg | hmm... udd is the "Ultimate Debian Database", an effort to gather lots of useful information about Debian from a variety of sources and stuff it all into a giant PostgreSQL database. http://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase http://udd.debian.org/ |
| 16:01.20 | DammitJim | ok, cool... so I'm not crazy... wheezy did go 2.6.38 |
| 16:01.40 | jelly | it gathers information from various sources, including but not limited to UDD |
| 16:02.09 | jelly | sometimes it lags a little |
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| 16:03.13 | ActionParsnip | can't you do |
| 16:03.20 | ActionParsnip | !info linux-image sid |
| 16:03.43 | jelly | Apr 11 16:02:47 <judd> Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); wheezy: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-31); [...] Apr 11 17:59:59 <judd> Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); wheezy: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); [...] |
| 16:03.43 | jhutchins_lt | ActionParsnip: Apparently not. |
| 16:03.48 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, lag. |
| 16:03.52 | ActionParsnip | jhutchins_lt: gah |
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| 16:04.32 | jelly | DammitJim: sure, there is a master. You can't access it though. :-) |
| 16:04.42 | alemani | jhutchins_lt: then should I alter the xorg.conf file in order to get a higher resolution actually 800x600 the xor.conf file has the default values... ? |
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| 16:05.02 | alemani | the LCD monitor I have supports 1024x768 |
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| 16:05.15 | jhutchins_lt | alemani: If you're running squeeze you should try running without an xorg.conf file (MOVE it somewhere safe). |
| 16:05.24 | dutchfish | http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-kernel@lists.debian.org |
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| 16:07.32 | alemani | jhutchins_lt: I am running lenny |
| 16:08.02 | jhutchins_lt | Still worth a try. |
| 16:08.38 | alemani | jhutchins_lt: not what you're talking about you mean that in the lastest release (Squeeze) there's no xorg.conf ? |
| 16:09.31 | jhutchins_lt | alemani: Recent versions of xorg are able to auto-configure themselves on startup. xorg.conf is not needed for most squeeze installs. |
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| 16:10.11 | jhutchins_lt | alemani: You might also scan through /var/log/Xorg.0.log for a clue about your resolution and whether it's loading your driver. |
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| 16:10.29 | alemani | jhutchins_lt: and it could be the same for this lenny box ? |
| 16:10.44 | jhutchins_lt | Yes |
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| 16:11.07 | Speed` | e |
| 16:11.20 | wolfric | why is the most recent upgrades to debian testing trying to remove xserv-xorg-video-nv |
| 16:12.21 | jelly | wolfric: packages in testing often have broken dependencies that make them want to be removed |
| 16:12.24 | ansgar | wolfric: Because that package no longer exists. |
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| 16:12.40 | jelly | ,versions xserver-xorg-video-nv |
| 16:12.41 | judd | Package xserver-xorg-video-nv on i386 -- lenny: 1:2.1.10-1; squeeze: 1:2.1.17-3 |
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| 16:12.47 | jelly | blink |
| 16:12.52 | jelly | oh, nouveau |
| 16:12.56 | maligor | isn't nouveau better these days? |
| 16:13.14 | jelly | I'm using the drivers that work anyway. |
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| 16:13.38 | wolfric | ansgar: where has it gone then? Are the drivers in some other package? |
| 16:14.06 | ansgar | wolfric: There is the nouveau driver for NVidia cards. |
| 16:14.19 | jelly | ,versions xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 16:14.21 | judd | Package xserver-xorg-video-nouveau on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5; sid: 1:0.0.16+git20101210+8bb8231-2; wheezy: 1:0.0.16+git20101210+8bb8231-2; experimental: 1:0.0.16+git20101210+8bb8231-2+exp2 |
| 16:14.50 | maligor | version 0.0.xx is always comforting |
| 16:15.38 | dkr | any idea how I can have a process started in the future? ps -p 9904 -o lstart shows bacula-fd started Tue Jan 17 16:08:55 2012 |
| 16:16.21 | dkr | something to do with the uptime counter wrapping around? I think the machine has been on longer than the 10 days uptime says |
| 16:16.25 | dkr | er 100 days |
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| 16:17.09 | jhutchins_lt | dkr: cron or at |
| 16:17.10 | ws2k3 | hello guys i have installed vmware player on my debian. but can i use it text based? like start a vm etc? |
| 16:17.24 | alemani | jhutchins_lt: the Xorg.0.log states tha the MGA driver is loaded, still the maximun resolution is 800x600 seems that the hsync a vrefresh are out of range... |
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| 16:17.48 | alemani | but I've seen this LCD to work under 1024x768 under linux |
| 16:18.01 | dawud | dkr: does 'date' outputs correct data? |
| 16:18.02 | dkr | jhutchins_lt: I think you misunderstood the question. I'm not seeking how to launch a program in the future. I have one running that ps claims has a start time in 2012 |
| 16:18.03 | alemani | should I 'force' this on the Xorg.conf ? |
| 16:18.07 | dkr | dawud: yes |
| 16:18.37 | jhutchins_lt | dkr: You can try. You might want a new, clean xorg conf as generated by X --configure\ |
| 16:18.38 | dawud | dkr: wild guess, but, have you checked your hwclock? |
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| 16:21.49 | dkr | hwclock --show says the correct time. but you may be o to something. I did ps -eo pid,cmd,lstart|grep 2012 and discovered tat not only are some bacula-fd procs have the 2012 start time but ntpd as well as a login shell of my own |
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| 16:25.49 | stevieman | I am trying to setup a file share that will allow all users to read and write to that file or directory. I have set the owner and group, added the appropriate users to the group and everyone can write or create directories but they cannot add to files created by other users |
| 16:26.21 | stevieman | I've tried find /dir -type d (and f) -exec chmod 2775 {} \; but that doesn't seem to help |
| 16:27.16 | dawud | dkr: there might be something in your ntpd logs |
| 16:27.34 | dawud | dkr: something meaningful, of course |
| 16:28.58 | dawud | stevieman: have you check the perms on the directory itself? chmod it g+rw if it's not already |
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| 16:29.33 | Oday | how can i tell if i'm using Xorg or Wayland? |
| 16:29.42 | Oday | i am using Debian 6 |
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| 16:29.47 | Oday | is Wayland even on it? |
| 16:29.51 | stevieman | dawud: is there a way so that I don't need to chmod the dir everytime? |
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| 16:30.20 | dawud | stevieman: you shouldn't need to, unless other process changes the perms |
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| 16:31.42 | Oday | any takers? |
| 16:31.43 | stevieman | dawud: well when my users creates a file the permisions are ower(read/right/exec), group(read), I'd like it to be owner(read/right/exec) group(read/write) |
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| 16:34.28 | stevieman | dawud: I need the setting to stick for any new dir or file created in the dir |
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| 16:34.46 | dawud | stevieman: are your users accessing from win machines? is that a samba share? |
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| 16:35.43 | stevieman | dawud: Some will be access through samba |
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| 16:36.47 | dawud | stevieman: samba has support for setting create and directory masks (last time I checked, a while back, though) |
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| 16:37.29 | stevieman | dawud: oh, I'll have to look into that, I thought since the underlying permissions wouldn't do that the Samba wouldn't either |
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| 16:39.07 | jhutchins_lt | Oday: No, wayland isn't being packaged by debian. |
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| 16:40.10 | jhutchins_lt | stevieman: You may need to disable linux extensions if you're serving linux clients. |
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| 16:43.21 | ysph | Hi, if I install an x86 .deb using --force-architecture, how can I then allow that package to satisfy PreDepends for amd64 packages? |
| 16:43.37 | Anthlee | whats a quick command to determine if someone is using 32 or 64 bit? |
| 16:44.04 | Anthlee | ok nm dpkg --print-architecture is the answer lol |
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| 16:46.50 | abrotman | Oday: you're using Xorg |
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| 16:52.31 | ws2k3 | i have instlled vmware player in debian |
| 16:52.39 | ws2k3 | but i cant use the vmrun command for some reason? |
| 16:53.14 | abrotman | ws2k3: for the last time, #vmware |
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| 16:53.44 | ws2k3 | i'm also trying there |
| 16:53.51 | abrotman | then please stop posting here about it |
| 16:53.57 | ws2k3 | but severel times that say thats a debian question. |
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| 16:55.35 | jhutchins_lt | Circular references. love it. |
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| 16:55.54 | jelly-home | "it's their fault" |
| 16:56.58 | jelly-home | interoperability? helping the user? nah |
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| 16:57.41 | pastep | assuming vmrum lives at /usr/bin/vmrun -- do you find it there? What are its permissions? |
| 16:58.52 | ws2k3 | i dont have a vmrun there |
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| 16:59.00 | ws2k3 | well i have aother files |
| 16:59.02 | jelly-home | ws2k3: you could try showing the actual error messages instead for saying "some reason" |
| 16:59.03 | ws2k3 | file vmstat |
| 16:59.18 | ws2k3 | ok |
| 16:59.24 | jelly-home | !pastebin |
| 16:59.24 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 16:59.27 | ws2k3 | -bash: vmrun: command not found |
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| 16:59.29 | ws2k3 | thats the error |
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| 16:59.45 | ws2k3 | http://paste.debian.net/113712/ |
| 16:59.47 | jelly-home | ws2k3: your PATH doesn't contain that binary. |
| 16:59.55 | ws2k3 | yeah |
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| 17:00.17 | jelly-home | add the directory containing it, to PATH |
| 17:00.28 | ws2k3 | i dont know where it is. |
| 17:00.33 | ws2k3 | i dont know where to find vmpath |
| 17:00.37 | ws2k3 | vmrun |
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| 17:01.01 | woonix | find / -name "vmrun" |
| 17:01.05 | woonix | that'll search your whole system |
| 17:01.13 | jelly-home | ws2k3: if you installed a package, dpkg -L packagename will show its contents |
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| 17:01.50 | woonix | jelly's idea is good too. I often do dpkg -L packagename | grep bin to find executable programs installed by a package. |
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| 17:03.31 | ws2k3 | dpkg -L packagename dont work |
| 17:03.31 | dpkg | ii packagename dont work 2.8-14 ws2k3's private stamp collection |
| 17:04.14 | pastep | subsitute packagename with vmrun |
| 17:04.18 | petemc | did you install vmware as a debian package? |
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| 17:04.34 | ws2k3 | no |
| 17:04.45 | ws2k3 | i used the .bundle from the vmware website. |
| 17:04.56 | jelly-home | ... |
| 17:05.01 | ws2k3 | ? |
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| 17:05.06 | ws2k3 | is that so strange? |
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| 17:05.55 | jhutchins_lt | ws2k3: It's just that there's no way for us to help you with that situation. We have no knowledge or control over packages created by other projects. |
| 17:05.59 | jelly-home | ws2k3: I meant a debian-format package. If you didn't install a .deb one way or the other, of course dpkg won't show a thing |
| 17:06.32 | jelly-home | ws2k3: use find to find that executable, or ask the vendor. |
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| 17:07.12 | ws2k3 | what was the command again find -R so also search in lower maps? |
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| 17:07.18 | jelly-home | what - |
| 17:07.21 | jelly-home | -R? |
| 17:07.25 | ws2k3 | find |
| 17:07.34 | woonix | find / -name "vmrun" |
| 17:07.43 | jelly-home | no -R there. |
| 17:07.53 | woonix | also reading the man page for find is good for your soul |
| 17:08.02 | pastep | if only there was a transcript ;-> |
| 17:08.02 | ws2k3 | i know |
| 17:08.03 | jelly-home | nah, find man page is painful |
| 17:08.09 | jelly-home | !using find |
| 17:08.09 | dpkg | i guess using find is http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind or "man find" |
| 17:08.14 | woonix | it builds character. lol |
| 17:08.22 | ws2k3 | return nothing |
| 17:08.34 | ws2k3 | but maby i should install it using apt-get then |
| 17:08.38 | woonix | Then guess what... there is nothing named "vmrun" on your system anywhere. |
| 17:08.40 | ws2k3 | is there a debian package from vmware player? |
| 17:08.47 | jelly-home | ws2k3: you didn't install it at all, or the binary isn't called "vmrun" then. |
| 17:08.58 | jelly-home | ws2k3: you'll have to ask the vendor. |
| 17:09.07 | ws2k3 | i alreayd did |
| 17:09.10 | ws2k3 | and this is what i found |
| 17:09.11 | ws2k3 | http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vix180_vmrun_command.pdf |
| 17:09.17 | jhutchins_lt | !vmware |
| 17:09.17 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported, ask me about <vmware support>. VMware is not in Debian because it is not Free software; even though you might be able to download it for no cost, the source code is not available for some parts and Debian is not allowed to distribute it, see <dfsg>. http://wiki.debian.org/VMware #vmware on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 17:09.17 | aXs | Peace at home, peace in the world. |
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| 17:09.57 | aXs | Our great ideal is to raise our nation to highest standars of civilization and porsperity. |
| 17:10.24 | jelly-home | weird troll is weird |
| 17:10.27 | woonix | Your PDF says: "The vmrun utility installs with Workstation and VMware Fusion. For use with remote product platforms, you can obtain vmrun by installing the VIX standalone libraries, available free of charge on the VMware download site." |
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| 17:11.59 | ws2k3 | lol? |
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| 17:12.22 | lusotux | lol indeed :D |
| 17:12.25 | ws2k3 | i'm a sleephead |
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| 17:12.53 | ws2k3 | my excuse 100 times |
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| 17:13.09 | jelly-home | ws2k3: you seem to be lacking knowledge to figure out whether you've installed a piece of software at all. At present time, it might be a better idea to hire an administrator to manage the installation for you. |
| 17:13.10 | ws2k3 | sometimes i'm searching hours for something while it was in front of me all the time |
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| 17:14.05 | woonix | but you learned some helpful things today, like dpkg -L, and find |
| 17:14.15 | woonix | and rtfm |
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| 17:14.25 | ws2k3 | jelly i'm still learning |
| 17:14.33 | ws2k3 | anyway i wanne thanks u all. |
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| 17:18.05 | jelly-home | ws2k3: oh. In that case, have fun. |
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| 17:18.06 | tuvwx | anyone aware of a way to install debian on the motorola xoom tablet? |
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| 17:22.47 | dalias | somewhere a while back, gtk print dialog's "print to lpr" was broken to send pdf instead of ps: |
| 17:22.51 | dalias | http://debathena.mit.edu/trac/ticket/434 |
| 17:23.10 | dalias | is there any way to override this with a setting? |
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| 17:23.31 | dalias | i'm using it with a system where the (network) printer understands ps but not pdf |
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| 17:25.52 | jughead4 | hi |
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| 17:26.08 | jughead4 | hi |
| 17:27.06 | woonix | I acknowledge your existence, jughead. |
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| 17:28.21 | jughead4 | hey is there a way to install devel packages without removing already installed apps ..i mean if i do a apt-get build-dep vlc it will also install ffmpeg but i installed ffmpeg from source and want to keep it |
| 17:28.34 | jughead4 | hey woonix |
| 17:28.39 | jughead4 | how is it going ? |
| 17:29.08 | woonix | I'm preparing myself for a day of productive studying |
| 17:29.35 | daemonkeeper | jughead4: No, you could have satisfied the build dependency by doing the same for ffmpeg though |
| 17:30.13 | daemonkeeper | How should Debian know you installed ffmpeg from source? |
| 17:30.53 | jughead4 | daemonkeeper, pkg_config_path ? |
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| 17:31.40 | daemonkeeper | Debian does not care about pkg_config at all, for Debian dependencies |
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| 17:32.00 | jughead4 | oh ok |
| 17:32.22 | daemonkeeper | You could have used checkinstall at least, or provide a dummy package satisfying the build dependency if you insist to mess up your system with source installs |
| 17:32.44 | jughead4 | yeah i've checkinstalled |
| 17:33.12 | daemonkeeper | Well, it didn't provide the -dev package then I guess |
| 17:33.28 | jughead4 | hmm okie |
| 17:33.59 | Rockj | Q: does debian have any protection against setuid? made a simply c program which tries to run /bin/bash -c whoami after the setuid operation, but it desnt give me the correct user. http://lim.norrs.no/p/54b5a536ec/ |
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| 17:34.36 | jhutchins_lt | Actually, the preferred method is to build a .deb package during the build process then install that. |
| 17:34.37 | daemonkeeper | You can setuid binaries only, no shell scripts |
| 17:34.57 | DammitJim | after running nvidia-xconfig and rebooting, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/3u8hedC4 |
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| 17:35.38 | daemonkeeper | A common use case is to write a binary wrapper and setuid that one |
| 17:36.22 | Rockj | daemonkeeper: that's what I'm doing with the C code I assume? runnings setuid() and run the required scripts as the proper user? |
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| 17:36.46 | daemonkeeper | You can't setuid(0) from a process non being root, check the return value |
| 17:36.56 | Shadur | eyes bug #621036... Good grief. |
| 17:37.03 | jelly-home | Rockj: you don't check for return status of stat setuid(), how do you know it succeeded? |
| 17:37.06 | jughead4 | daemonkeeper, can i build-dep from testing ? |
| 17:37.14 | daemonkeeper | jughead4: Yes |
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| 17:37.34 | jelly-home | s/stat/that/ |
| 17:37.38 | jughead4 | okie ty |
| 17:37.41 | daemonkeeper | jelly-home: It won't succeed as said, I meant he means the setuid bit as file attribute. setuid(0) only works as root |
| 17:37.45 | jughead4 | pingfloyd, hi :) nice name |
| 17:37.58 | daemonkeeper | Therefore, either set the sticky bit |
| 17:38.08 | daemonkeeper | Or start the binary as root ;) |
| 17:38.26 | jelly-home | daemonkeeper: um, yes, I assumed he chown root: and chmod u+s the binary boefrehand |
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| 17:38.46 | jelly-home | sticky bit is something altogether different |
| 17:39.30 | Rockj | jelly-home: good point. |
| 17:39.32 | daemonkeeper | setuid(0) hardly makes sense at all, since setuid() implies being root. |
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| 17:39.51 | Rockj | daemonkeeper: that explains my retardness :] |
| 17:39.53 | jelly-home | daemonkeeper: au contraire |
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| 17:39.56 | DammitJim | why would xconfig tell it to load the nvidia driver and then X fails loading it |
| 17:40.09 | DammitJim | I've changed nvidia to nv and that worked but I'm not sure that's the right thing to do |
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| 17:40.36 | Amnesia | hm am I the only one who's getting: geoiplookup: Symbol `GeoIPDBDescription' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking |
| 17:40.37 | jhutchins_lt | DammitJim: If it worked it was the right thing to do. |
| 17:40.50 | daemonkeeper | jelly-home: Yes? euid = 0 might work too |
| 17:40.51 | jhutchins_lt | Amnesia: yes |
| 17:40.52 | Amnesia | geoip-bin amd64 1.4.7~beta6+dfsg-1 <-- |
| 17:40.59 | jelly-home | daemonkeeper: euid might be not 0 |
| 17:41.00 | Amnesia | jhutchins_lt: any idea how I can debug it? |
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| 17:41.45 | jughead4 | daemonkeeper, is there a proper way to make things coexists together...source installs and debs ? |
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| 17:42.17 | jughead4 | most of the time i like to compile from source especially ffmpeg,vlc,mplayer |
| 17:42.21 | daemonkeeper | jughead4: Only if you are very careful not to collapse things. |
| 17:42.24 | Amnesia | ffs |
| 17:42.29 | Amnesia | jhutchins_lt: any idea how I can debug it? |
| 17:42.34 | Amnesia | already tried reinstalling it |
| 17:42.59 | jhutchins_lt | Amnesia: You're running sid. |
| 17:43.03 | Amnesia | nope |
| 17:43.05 | Amnesia | squeeze |
| 17:43.10 | jughead4 | daemonkeeper, okie |
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| 17:43.39 | jelly-home | Rockj: this works fine for me, http://paste.debian.net/113721/ |
| 17:43.58 | Amnesia | any of oyu running squeeze? |
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| 17:44.29 | Rockj | jelly-home: having issues with redmine/ruby now, since it throws me some weird SecurityError exception |
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| 17:45.54 | Rockj | jelly-home: http://lim.norrs.no/p/73b4d79b85/ but I guess that is a question for #ruby or something. |
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| 17:47.17 | Amnesia | jhutchins_lt: I'm running squeeze |
| 17:47.30 | jhutchins_lt | aJA, SORRY |
| 17:47.44 | jelly-home | Rockj: I'm clueless about ruby so I won't even take a peek |
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| 17:48.01 | jhutchins_lt | Anyway, your error is a shared object linking error, but it doesn't say what the object is. |
| 17:48.08 | Amnesia | nope |
| 17:48.14 | Amnesia | GeoIPDBDescription |
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| 17:48.32 | Amnesia | guess that function call is from libgeoip1 |
| 17:49.01 | halflife08 | hello, i am using icedove 3.1.9-2 (sid) i started to see that an email when opened, opens up a new tab but does not mark the original email as read in the pane, is anybody else seeing the same behavior (mail server is M exchange and using imap) |
| 17:49.15 | jhutchins_lt | Amnesia: As far as I know linking is something that happens at build time. |
| 17:49.29 | Amnesia | yep |
| 17:49.48 | Amnesia | you don't run squeeze? |
| 17:49.54 | Amnesia | otherwise anyone else could try it out? |
| 17:49.59 | jhutchins_lt | Not on my servers. |
| 17:50.25 | verma_ | what is the password for debian ec2 images listed here: http://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image |
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| 17:53.15 | verma_ | oh, I think I need the key |
| 17:53.16 | verma_ | :) |
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| 17:54.44 | Amnesia | hm |
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| 17:57.57 | Lint | after recent upgrade my keybboard and mouse do not work after x start, wxcept sysrq key... how to fix? |
| 17:58.44 | jelly-home | Lint: get rid of your xorg.conf, retry |
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| 17:58.52 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 17:59.05 | cahoot | not the udev bug? |
| 17:59.05 | Lint | theres none xorg.conf |
| 17:59.31 | jelly-home | Lint: alright then. Which Debian release are you using? |
| 17:59.35 | cahoot | Lint: testing/sid? |
| 17:59.38 | Lint | sid |
| 17:59.43 | Amnesia | so no one can help me with the linking error? |
| 17:59.48 | jair | hello guys I am experiencing a very estrange thing. I have my two debian machine one connected wired and the other one wireless and a windows xp machine (wireless) in a cafe internet, the cafe internet is using a linksys e1000 everything is configure to get dynamic ip, I can browse the next from the windows machine using ff and ie, on the two debian lenny machines I can only browse using links, chrome-browser but not epiphany or ff... |
| 18:00.09 | jair | should I check what's going on with the rules on the linksys e1000 |
| 18:00.52 | jair | is it possible that this thing is blocking access to the internet from my linux epiphany and firefox? |
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| 18:01.02 | cahoot | Lint: I just removed /run |
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| 18:04.59 | karlpinc | jair: No. But it might have to do with ipv6 enablement, or not. |
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| 18:06.52 | Amnesia | anyone who's talking now running squeeze? |
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| 18:07.01 | karlpinc | !tell jair about nopiv6 |
| 18:07.10 | karlpinc | !tell Amnesia about anyone |
| 18:07.24 | karlpinc | !tell jair about noipv6 |
| 18:07.24 | jair | Amnesia: I am |
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| 18:07.33 | Amnesia | karlpinc: already asked |
| 18:07.43 | Amnesia | jair: could you verify that you get: geoiplookup: Symbol `GeoIPDBDescription' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking |
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| 18:07.55 | Amnesia | with geoiplookup (geoip-bin) |
| 18:08.02 | jair | karlpinc: what ipv6 have to do with the modem and the epiphany & FF in linux browsers? |
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| 18:08.23 | jelly-home | ipv6 makes everything worse! But sometimes it makes dns resolution worse. |
| 18:09.19 | karlpinc | jair: The application has control over whether it does ipv6 or not, iirc. Or uses the OS default, which might be to try ipv6 first. The linksys could have a broken ipv6 implimentation, so it does not then retry with ipv4. |
| 18:10.05 | jair | karlpinc: but I can browse perfectly using the chrome-browser for squeeze? |
| 18:10.06 | karlpinc | jair: I could be totally wrong about what controls ipv6, but if you're getting to port 80 with links and not with another app then the other app is not doing the same thing links does. |
| 18:10.14 | jair | karlpinc: how can we explain that? |
| 18:10.31 | karlpinc | jair: It may have different ipv6 behavior. |
| 18:10.43 | Amnesia | jair: tried it? |
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| 18:11.02 | jair | alright I guess I can try disabling ipv6 on my squeeze but that does not make any sense to me just yet |
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| 18:11.42 | karlpinc | jair: Alternatly, you could use tcpdump and/or wireshark to figure out just what's going on. But there's not a lot of things that can go wrong and I'd try the ipv6 stuff first. |
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| 18:11.57 | jair | Amnesia: I am taking care of something here regarding my network I will get back to you, I am not understanding what you are asking me to do either `GeoIPDBDescription'? |
| 18:11.58 | Cypeq | uh hi since i'm debian noob rly how do i download links browser package with apt-get while enabeling compilation option --enable-graphics ? |
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| 18:12.22 | beardy | !links2 |
| 18:12.22 | dpkg | [links2] a text and graphics browser with support for HTTPS and JavaScript, packaged for Debian. For using in console as GUI (with mouse and keys support), see /usr/share/doc/links2/README.Debian (so you can use as regular non-root user when running in console in GUI mode). Ask me about <links2 settings>. Does not honor the <http_proxy> / <ftp_proxy> environment variables (Debian bugs #55425, #93359). http://links.twibright.com/ |
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| 18:12.28 | Cypeq | is it possible or should i just download and copile it by my self ? |
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| 18:12.50 | karlpinc | Cypeq: Since you're new the <overview> factoid may be helpful. |
| 18:12.56 | karlpinc | !tell Cypeq about overview |
| 18:13.01 | Amnesia | ugh crappy net |
| 18:13.06 | Amnesia | jair: checked it out? |
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| 18:13.21 | karlpinc | Cypeq: Which has nothing to do with your problem per-se. For that see beardy's advice. |
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| 18:13.49 | jair | karlpinc: I will go ahead and test the ipv6 option |
| 18:13.51 | karlpinc | Amnesia: You're better off asking the channel than making requests of specific people. |
| 18:14.12 | Cypeq | thx for response |
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| 18:14.17 | jair | Amnesia: alright what is what you want me to test in my debian machine? |
| 18:14.27 | stevieman | Is there a way to have multiple users connect to seperate desktops sessions at the sametime on a single server? |
| 18:14.27 | Amnesia | well karlpinc tried that several times:) |
| 18:14.49 | Amnesia | well geopiplookup throws me this error: geoiplookup: Symbol `GeoIPDBDescription' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking |
| 18:15.01 | karlpinc | stevieman: Sure. Is the network secure? |
| 18:15.10 | bonjoyee | i am running debian stable, and trying to mix with testing and debian-multimedia.org (testing) using apt-pinning..but for some reason apt/aptitude so not follow the priorities in /apt/preferences..pleas help |
| 18:15.11 | stevieman | karlpinc: yes |
| 18:15.28 | jair | Amnesia: what is that Amnesia I don't even know if I have that package installed? |
| 18:15.47 | Amnesia | jair: it lets you determine where a ip is from(which country) |
| 18:16.04 | Amnesia | the binary is located in the pacakge: geoip-bin |
| 18:16.13 | Amnesia | sudo apt-get install geoip-bin |
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| 18:16.24 | Amnesia | then: geoiplookup 80.69.72.166 |
| 18:16.29 | jair | it comes by default with the base with the minimal install? |
| 18:16.47 | karlpinc | stevieman: I tell gdm (have not yet gone to gdm3) to allow other machines to connect. Then you run, say, the following in your inittab on the remote host. (Which is the X server.() |
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| 18:17.04 | jair | I don't think I have that package installed and will not install it just to test something |
| 18:17.16 | jair | Amnesia: sorry |
| 18:17.24 | guardian | hello, is there something more than updating my source.list and issuing aptitude install foo/wheezy to install a package from testing? i just want that single package from testing |
| 18:17.25 | karlpinc | stevieman: 8:23:respawn:/usr/bin/X :0 vt8 -query bigbox.example.com -layout "Single Head Layout" |
| 18:17.25 | Amnesia | ah |
| 18:17.26 | Amnesia | nvm |
| 18:17.41 | karlpinc | stevieman: Something like that. In other words, X runs fine over the network. |
| 18:17.43 | Amnesia | does anyone else then perhaps know how this problem can occur? |
| 18:17.43 | Amnesia | geoiplookup: Symbol `GeoIPDBDescription' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking |
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| 18:17.53 | karlpinc | stevieman: I think there's a wiki page for "thin client" |
| 18:18.07 | stevieman | karlpinc: ok thanks, I'll look into that |
| 18:18.13 | lusotux | hi stevieman |
| 18:18.14 | lusotux | :) |
| 18:18.16 | karlpinc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.17 | karlpinc | stevieman: You should be able to use xdm, gdm, kdm or any of them to enable remote login, but you need to turn it on. There may also be something in their readme.debian file. dunno. |
| 18:19.21 | karlpinc | !tell stevieman about readme.debian |
| 18:20.06 | karlpinc | guardian: You don't want a single package from testing. Mixing release breaks things. You can get it from backports or backport it yourself. |
| 18:20.12 | karlpinc | !tell guardian about backports |
| 18:20.17 | karlpinc | !tell guardian about ssb |
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| 18:20.28 | karlpinc | !tell guardian about overview |
| 18:20.32 | guardian | karlpinc: no nginx in backports |
| 18:20.39 | jair | karlpinc: to disable the ipv6 on my squeeze system I will have to go to: /etc/default/grub and add that line ipv6.disable=1 ? |
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| 18:21.07 | jair | does anyone here uses a linksys E1000 N wireless router? |
| 18:21.31 | karlpinc | jair: You'll have to add it to the kernel line in there, yes. That passes the kernel a parameter. You can do this once-only just by typing e to edit the boot choice while booting in grub. |
| 18:21.49 | lulzyboy | how can i make an AP with debian? |
| 18:21.58 | karlpinc | guardian: Backport it yourself. |
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| 18:22.39 | jair | karlpinc: sounds good |
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| 18:22.53 | TekLas | hi folks |
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| 18:23.02 | jair | karlpinc: let me test and let you know, but this is something I have never experienced before |
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| 18:23.26 | karlpinc | lulzyboy: Yes. There's a daemon you run. I forget the details. See the debian wiki and if that does not help and no one answers ask here again later. |
| 18:23.36 | karlpinc | jair: It's odd. |
| 18:23.37 | jair | I can't believe cisco (the ones that own linksys) will have such a crappy limitation on their home users router |
| 18:23.53 | Kull | Their routers are weak |
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| 18:24.26 | guzu | hello all |
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| 18:24.45 | guzu | i have a problem: i no longer see the mouse cursor in debian6 |
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| 18:24.54 | guzu | machine is thinkpad x40 |
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| 18:25.46 | guzu | i know the mouse is still moving because sometimes popups show up depending on where the mouse cursor hapens to move |
| 18:26.04 | jair | karlpinc: is there a way i can test if the switch worked and ipv6 is been disabled? |
| 18:26.07 | karlpinc | guzu: Somebody else had that problem the other day. You might want to search the bug report system. Then again, there's probably some X config parameter to set -- that is if it _never_ showed up. Was it there and then gone again? |
| 18:26.37 | guzu | karlpinc, it was working until one day i updated something |
| 18:26.39 | karlpinc | jair: A number of commands, ping and ssh come to mind, have command line flags to turn on/off ipv6/v4. |
| 18:27.12 | guzu | i don't have more details because i use the notepad rarely and the problem was after the update (one week or two) |
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| 18:28.28 | karlpinc | jair: There may be some output in "sysctl -a". |
| 18:28.40 | karlpinc | jair: Or even dmesg. |
| 18:29.02 | karlpinc | jair: The question is, do the apps work? |
| 18:29.49 | jair | karlpinc: you were right! it works now! |
| 18:30.03 | karlpinc | jair: There wasn't much else that could go wrong. |
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| 18:30.56 | jair | karlpinc: so the linksys E1000 wireless have an issue with ipv6 |
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| 18:31.16 | karlpinc | jair: You couuld then, if you cared, figure out what went wrong with ipv6. Someday, sooner or later, you'll have to use v6. (Probably later.) |
| 18:31.21 | jair | specially with debian linux lenny and squeeze |
| 18:31.27 | guzu | karlpinc, how do i search the bug system? |
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| 18:31.36 | karlpinc | !tell guzu about bts |
| 18:31.49 | guzu | karlpinc, thank you very much |
| 18:31.49 | karlpinc | !tell guzu about querybts |
| 18:32.02 | karlpinc | guzu: I always go to bugs.debian.org. |
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| 18:32.29 | karlpinc | jair: It's not _necessarly_ the fault of the linksys. But I'd bet heavily that that's the problem. |
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| 18:34.18 | jair | karlpinc: what should I do to help other people in my situation I am sure that other linux distributions will have similar issue |
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| 18:34.42 | jair | FF4 in linux and epiphany does not work with the ipv6 enabled |
| 18:34.51 | jair | karlpinc: FF4 in linux and epiphany does not work with the ipv6 enabled |
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| 18:35.49 | karlpinc | jair: You could write a detailed description of the problem, including as may relevent keywords as you can think of in your sentences, and send a summary of the problem/solution to the debian-users mailing list. Then let google find your message in the archives when people search. |
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| 18:36.54 | karlpinc | jair: Or the firefox mailing list, or even both although cross posting tends to be frowned on. Otherwise, I can't think of how to reach people. |
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| 18:38.36 | karlpinc | jair: You could add to the the debian wiki, if there's a firefox page, or something. The problem with that is that it's both too specific and not specific enough and not necessarly as easy for google to find. The mailing lists are archived in sites that rank high with google. |
| 18:38.38 | Oday | is it safe to assume that Apache2 comes packaged with Debian 6? |
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| 18:38.56 | karlpinc | ,versions apache2 |
| 18:38.58 | judd | Package apache2 on i386 -- lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny9; lenny-security: 2.2.9-10+lenny9; lenny-backports: 2.2.16-6~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.2.16-6; squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze1; wheezy: 2.2.17-2; sid: 2.2.17-3 |
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| 18:40.00 | jair | karlpinc: I will work on that |
| 18:40.11 | Kull | Oday: it doesnt come with Debina but there is a package in the repos. Of cuorse. |
| 18:40.23 | jair | karlpinc: thank you so much I will make sure you get a thanks from all the newbies using lenny and squeeze :) |
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| 18:41.23 | karlpinc | Kull: The repos _are_ Debian. |
| 18:42.03 | karlpinc | jair: No worries. |
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| 18:44.12 | erAbuelo | buenas |
| 18:44.14 | guzu | karlpinc, i don't find anything interesting (probably i'm not that good at searching) |
| 18:45.04 | guzu | karlpinc, however, in Xorg.0.log i see that after "finding" the thinkpad trackpoint, there's a line which states "No driver. Ignoring." |
| 18:46.02 | karlpinc | jair: Don't forget to modify your grub configuration (and test it) so that the change is permanent. |
| 18:46.40 | karlpinc | guzu: Can you find the trackpoint in the output of "lspci -nn" and paste that one line here? |
| 18:47.12 | jair | karlpinc: sure not problem |
| 18:47.13 | Mr_Queue | there's permissions on the judd bot now? |
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| 18:47.28 | jair | karlpinc: thank you so much I will actually test the same way with the lenny system |
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| 18:48.03 | guzu | karlpinc, i'll try that |
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| 18:48.52 | karlpinc | guzu: I'm not an X guy. I poke it with a stick and make it work. So I don't know that you'll even find it. |
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| 18:50.14 | guzu | karlpinc, ok, i didn't :) |
| 18:50.50 | guzu | karlpinc, anyway, i inserted an external usb optical mouse and still no visible cursor |
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| 18:51.03 | guzu | it looks like the cursor is transparent |
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| 18:51.29 | guzu | i dual boot with fedora 15 and there's no problem with the mouse |
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| 18:52.37 | karlpinc | guzu: I'm kinda out of ideas. Maybe someone here can help later. You could try searching the debian-users mailing list archive. You could also submit a bug report. That would be good, although not _necessarly_ super fast. |
| 18:53.01 | karlpinc | guzu: It does not sound like a hard problem..... |
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| 18:54.12 | guzu | karlpinc, i'm positive it's not a hw problem :) |
| 18:54.32 | guzu | i'll wait a little longer, maybe a fix will show up |
| 18:54.40 | karlpinc | guzu: You could look though your video driver's man page. It'll have a lot of X vocabularly words in it. Turning one of them off or on will probably fix it. |
| 18:55.06 | karlpinc | guzu: Possibly. Although it could be that fixing yours breaks somebody else's. |
| 18:55.06 | guzu | karlpinc, ok, i'll do it |
| 18:55.41 | karlpinc | guzu: And I'm sure you're right. It's doing something "fast" to draw the cursor and now that's not working. |
| 18:55.46 | guzu | yes. they say that without hope you can not start the day :) |
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| 18:57.43 | DammitJim | interesting... for squeeze, I can't get X to work properly by configuring with nvidia-xconfig |
| 18:57.59 | nkuttler | is it just me or does following http://www.debian-administration.org/article/631/Exim4_SMTP_Auth_for_the_Real_World lead to an open relay? |
| 18:58.11 | nkuttler | specifically hostlist host_auth_accept_relay = * |
| 18:59.09 | mtx_init | DammitJim: that just creates the config file, use nvidia-settings and apply |
| 18:59.21 | catsup | "Secondly, I want to be able to relay mail from any client if that client authenticates via TLS from anywhere on the internet. " |
| 18:59.29 | catsup | notice IF |
| 18:59.46 | catsup | i didn't read past there |
| 18:59.48 | DammitJim | nvidia-settings is complaining that I am not using the nvidia x driver and to run nvidia-xconfig |
| 19:00.15 | mtx_init | DammitJim: ok so do so and follow the rest of the directions by restarting X |
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| 19:00.32 | mtx_init | DammitJim: usually best to just restart the system |
| 19:00.41 | DammitJim | mtx_init, I did... I ran xconfig and then restarted x, but then it doesn't load... it complains that it can't load the nvidia driver |
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| 19:00.50 | DammitJim | on wheezy, I would replace nvidia with nv and that would work |
| 19:00.52 | catsup | nkuttler: you're saying that auth_advertise_hosts = ! 192.168.0.0/24 doesn't preven tthe open relay? |
| 19:00.57 | jair | karlpinc: looks like the file "/etc/default/grub" does not accept the command: ipv6.disable=1 =( if I do it on the boot process it works |
| 19:01.01 | DammitJim | mtx_init, I have also restarted the system |
| 19:01.09 | DammitJim | do you have an nvidia card? |
| 19:01.30 | nkuttler | catsup: gotcha. |
| 19:01.37 | jair | karlpinc: I will need to find out what file I will need to edit to make the change permanent |
| 19:01.39 | mtx_init | DammitJim: I do, but it just works. But I use squeeze |
| 19:01.41 | jhutchins_lt | karlpinc: Did anybody ask guzu what release he's running? |
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| 19:01.59 | jhutchins_lt | jair: squeeze? |
| 19:01.59 | DammitJim | mtx_init, when you installed it, it just worked out of the box? |
| 19:02.02 | guzu | jhutchins, 6 |
| 19:02.04 | jair | jhutchins_lt: yes sir |
| 19:02.05 | nkuttler | thing is i'm not on the lan.. i guess i'll have to approach this differently |
| 19:02.11 | jair | jhutchins_lt: 6.0.1 |
| 19:02.23 | jhutchins_lt | guzu: So not the udev bug. |
| 19:02.54 | mtx_init | DammitJim: I install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig |
| 19:02.57 | jhutchins_lt | jair: /etc/default/grub |
| 19:03.04 | mtx_init | run xconfig, then setting and it works after a restart |
| 19:03.17 | karlpinc | jhutchins_lt: I thought squeeze. Yes. That was in his initial post. |
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| 19:04.16 | xyzp | Is there any XVID video Codec for linux? |
| 19:04.23 | jhutchins_lt | guzu: You could try booting RH and see what drivers it's using there. Copy the trackpad section from xorg.conf to debian? |
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| 19:04.33 | DammitJim | mtx_init, what do you mean by "setting and it works after a restart" |
| 19:04.34 | karlpinc | !tell xyzp about overview |
| 19:04.46 | DammitJim | I just get a warning saying there is no xorg.conf and then it creates one |
| 19:04.54 | streuner | xyzp: basically its called essential |
| 19:04.55 | karlpinc | xyzp: The referened wiki page gives you a couple of choices. |
| 19:04.56 | jair | jhutchins_lt: I am adding the following command to the grub boot loader at boot up time ipv6.disable=1 and it works, but when I add it to the file: "/etc/default/grub" I can't save it or update-grub becase the command is not recognized |
| 19:05.10 | DammitJim | I'm reading the wiki and it talks about building a custom kernel |
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| 19:05.26 | guzu | jhutchins, karlpinc something strange happens, i created an xorg.conf file with X -configure and although the file was created, the process ended with "fail" . also, attempting to startx as root gave me a black screen |
| 19:05.28 | mtx_init | DammitJim: yeah and then once you restart you need to use nvidia-settings to set it up to your liking. Then it should just work |
| 19:05.44 | jhutchins_lt | jair: ? |
| 19:05.45 | guzu | jhutchins, f15 has no xorg.conf, just like debian 6 |
| 19:05.53 | jhutchins_lt | jair: Are you root? |
| 19:05.53 | DammitJim | weird.. then something went wrong... what card do you use? |
| 19:06.05 | mtx_init | 8800GT |
| 19:06.09 | jair | karlpinc: you are right, I am very slow typing in the computer .... I know how can I be in the IT business when i never leqrned touch typing :( |
| 19:06.17 | jair | jhutchins_lt: yes |
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| 19:06.31 | jair | jhutchins_lt: let me try again and show you the error |
| 19:06.50 | jhutchins_lt | jair: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet ipv6.disable=1 splash" |
| 19:06.54 | DammitJim | mtx_init, when you installed nvidia-settings, did it create a new kernel option on boot? |
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| 19:07.00 | jhutchins_lt | jair: Then update-grub |
| 19:07.53 | mtx_init | DammitJim: nope. The nvidia stuff in the repos is tied to a specific kernel. Do you have a custom kernel? |
| 19:08.54 | jair | jhutchins_lt: I just found the same thing on google :) |
| 19:09.00 | jair | very good let me do that |
| 19:09.49 | jair | jhutchins_lt: I am not really sure if you need the quiet splash stanza |
| 19:10.09 | jhutchins_lt | jair: No, I just copied and pasted from mine. |
| 19:10.56 | DammitJim | not at all, mtx_init ... this is strange... I just booted into the 486 kernel instead of the 686, and the nvidia card is working |
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| 19:11.37 | mtx_init | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.05 | DammitJim | thanks, though... I'm going through this excercise where I'm installling debian testing everything before I upgrade my home server |
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| 19:13.57 | Enverex | Why does "xorg" depend on "libdrm-radeon1"? Seems like a rather hardware specific dependency |
| 19:14.11 | jair | jhutchins_lt: I am rebooting the system now thank you :) we will see if it works |
| 19:14.29 | jair | jhutchins_lt: I forgot to update the grub ;-( |
| 19:14.57 | abrotman | Enverex: which probably won't harm anyone not having a radeon |
| 19:15.44 | Enverex | abrotman, I wasn't sure if it would do anything specific to the 3D setup, as long as it's harmless then. The only reason it came up was because I'm getting segfaults when running glxinfo |
| 19:15.58 | abrotman | Enverex: read the package description |
| 19:16.39 | guzu | fatal: module fbcon not found |
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| 19:20.00 | jhutchins_lt | Enverex: xorg is a metapackage that pulls in all of the drivers. You can install the individual components seperately, or you can mark them as manually installed and purge xorg. |
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| 19:20.46 | Enverex | jhutchins_lt, It's not a dependency of the driver though, it's a dep of xorg itself (which is why it seemed odd). But as apparenly it's harmless it's a moot point. |
| 19:20.54 | Enverex | I can't figure out why glxinfo is segfaulting though |
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| 19:21.23 | jhutchins_lt | !thinkpad |
| 19:21.23 | dpkg | [thinkpad] one of the best laptops you can buy, or a thing that dies when your car hits it, according to abrotman. Some models restrict MiniPCI card use, see http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_unauthorized_MiniPCI_network_card . See also <gobi>, <hdapsd>, <martian>, <mwavem>, <slmodem>, <synaptics>, <tpb>, <trackpoint>. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad http://www.thinkwiki.org/ ##ibmthinkpad on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 19:21.38 | abrotman | Enverex: strace might help |
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| 19:24.17 | Enverex | abrotman, Unfortunately the output doesn't make anything stand out to me except for the mention of "No such file or directory" repeatedly - https://xnode.org/paste/58 |
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| 19:24.54 | elwin013 | Hi, I've some troubles with grsec - I installed kernel from this repo http://kernelsec.cr0.org/ and everything looks nice, but i can't enable policy. gradm2 says "incompatible versions of gradm and grsecurity". Any ideas how to fix this? ;) |
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| 19:25.40 | jair | jhutchins_lt: I put this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=ipv6.disable=1 then update-grub command and works problems solved |
| 19:25.50 | jair | karlpinc: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=ipv6.disable=1 then update-grub command and works problems solved |
| 19:25.59 | jair | jhutchins_lt: thank you very much for the help |
| 19:26.04 | jair | karlpinc: again thanks |
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| 19:28.36 | melter | what kinds of differences are there between the rX and rX+1 releases, as opposed to the major releases? |
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| 19:30.35 | jhutchins_lt | melter: ? Of what? |
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| 19:31.00 | melter | of debian? |
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| 19:31.20 | bzed | !pointrelease |
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| 19:31.33 | bzed | !ping |
| 19:31.33 | dpkg | Yes, bzed you are either online or you are not... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000326 |
| 19:31.39 | bzed | hmm |
| 19:31.43 | jhutchins_lt | melter: You mean like 6.0.1 vs 6.0.0 |
| 19:31.51 | melter | i'm trying to understand the releases to get a feel for how long i might have to wait for newer versions of software |
| 19:32.16 | jelly-home | ,release history |
| 19:32.19 | jhutchins_lt | melter: Is there something specific you need or do you have numberitis? |
| 19:32.20 | jelly-home | !release history |
| 19:32.20 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06). The next release will be Wheezy. See also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparc |
| 19:32.34 | daemonkeeper | Point releases won't contain new software versions, but aggregate security updates, patches and so on that entered Debian after being released. |
| 19:33.05 | daemonkeeper | In some rare cases also software might be removed |
| 19:33.26 | melter | so if i wanted to use a newer gnome or kernel, i'd have to wait a couple years? |
| 19:33.41 | bzed | !tell melter about stable |
| 19:33.42 | daemonkeeper | Well, not a couple but yes, until the next stable release |
| 19:33.44 | jelly-home | melter: in general, yes. |
| 19:33.48 | bzed | !tell melter about backports |
| 19:34.13 | jelly-home | melter: the kernel is one of the few components that are easily replaceable |
| 19:34.30 | daemonkeeper | (Mostly) |
| 19:34.56 | melter | thanks |
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| 19:49.37 | kenro | I'm having trouble resolving an issue with kde trash app. Either it's falsely claiming to be full or I'm not finding all the locations. |
| 19:49.50 | manischewitzbaco | is /mnt the debian/linux equivalent to OS-X's /Volumes? wondering where I should sshfs mount stuff to, and /mnt is owned by root. should I mount as root or chown the folder? |
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| 19:50.14 | catsup | manischewitzbaco: mount in your home directory if you are mounting as a user with sshfs |
| 19:50.30 | manischewitzbaco | catsup: thx |
| 19:50.38 | elwin013 | Anyone had problems with enabling policy via gradm2? ;) |
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| 19:51.02 | catsup | manischewitzbaco: that applies in os x too :p |
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| 19:51.54 | manischewitzbaco | catsup: why? not being difficult, just curious. |
| 19:51.56 | jhutchins_lt | manischewitzbaco: There really isn't a standard for where to mount things since pretty much any part of the file tree can be a separate mount point. |
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| 19:52.18 | manischewitzbaco | jhutchins_lt - figured as much, looking for best practices |
| 19:52.19 | jhutchins_lt | manischewitzbaco: Things like /media and /mnt are just conventions. |
| 19:52.32 | catsup | manischewitzbaco: user needs to mount on directory he owns. users should not own directories outside of /home unless for special reason. the whole purpose of /home is to isolate the effects of users. |
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| 19:52.38 | jhutchins_lt | manischewitzbaco: You might want to look at fuse for user mounts. |
| 19:52.46 | catsup | sshfs uses fuse |
| 19:53.02 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, of course. |
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| 19:53.21 | jhutchins_lt | I liked fish better. |
| 19:53.31 | catsup | was that nfs based? |
| 19:54.00 | jelly-home | mmm, fish |
| 19:54.26 | jhutchins_lt | fish was a pseudo-protocol in konqueror that allowed acccess to filesystems via ssh. |
| 19:54.30 | catsup | oh |
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| 19:55.16 | catsup | i never use a gui file manager |
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| 19:55.31 | jhutchins_lt | It worked great, but when they dropped the ball on konqueror they stopped developing it. |
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| 19:55.59 | catsup | yeah lots of apps have built-in ssh support |
| 19:56.19 | catsup | which probably works better than fuse, since it's higher level, but having the general solution is real nice |
| 19:56.40 | catsup | you can put a whole system on sshfs |
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| 19:58.15 | kenro | I'm having trouble resolving an issue with kde trash app. Either it's falsely claiming to be full or I'm not finding all the locations. |
| 19:58.42 | jhutchins_lt | I'm pretty disappointed that I can browse to an smb share with dolphin, double click an oo file and oo launches - but can't load the file over smb. |
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| 19:59.02 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins_lt: But konqueror (or actually dolphin to date) supports the sftp:// KIO slave now |
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| 19:59.27 | RichiH | jhutchins_lt: yah. kde's ioslaves make things too easy and you forget that others don't use them |
| 19:59.30 | jhutchins_lt | I actually have to mount the smb share to work with files on it in office. |
| 20:00.20 | RichiH | extra fun when kde's ioslaves handle cookies etc and third-party apps just load a login screen html page as 'pdf' etc |
| 20:00.44 | RichiH | i have got a VM which does not have $HOST set after booting up |
| 20:00.48 | RichiH | /etc/hostname is set |
| 20:00.54 | DammitJim | i'm getting this error when trying to compile modules on squeeze http://pastebin.com/xA9YbxkN |
| 20:00.54 | RichiH | is confused |
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| 20:01.02 | DammitJim | what am i missing? |
| 20:01.58 | kenro | Oh right, where do I find doc on perm setting ev vars? |
| 20:02.08 | kenro | env var |
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| 20:02.18 | jhutchins_lt | DammitJim: ./configure? |
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| 20:02.49 | DammitJim | jhutchins_lt, I ask because I've been able to make just fine on wheezy |
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| 20:03.56 | kenro | @emote |
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| 20:04.37 | DammitJim | weird.. I wiped the directory and recreated the ln and it worked |
| 20:04.43 | stevieman | I had the nerve to move my server to another room and now she will not boot. It goes through the post and stops at a blinking server |
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| 20:05.23 | DammitJim | I wonder how long it's going to take to make modules this time |
| 20:05.42 | kenro | ice to see you're still here, A.B. |
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| 20:05.48 | jhutchins_lt | DammitJim: What was the problem with the missing makefile? |
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| 20:06.09 | DammitJim | jhutchins_lt, it was doing this: http://pastebin.com/xA9YbxkN |
| 20:06.32 | jhutchins_lt | yes, I saw, did you fix it? |
| 20:07.08 | DammitJim | jhutchins_lt, yes, I removed the directory and decompressed the linux-source again |
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| 20:07.26 | jhutchins_lt | Hmph. |
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| 20:08.06 | stevieman | There are no messages, no errors nothing just a blinking cursor. Any ideas? |
| 20:08.06 | DammitJim | man, working with lirc is a mess for some reason |
| 20:08.49 | stevieman | is there a known problem with software raid and grub/lilo? |
| 20:09.21 | sgn | Has anyone found a firewall template for debian using the new initscript "layout"? |
| 20:10.09 | daemonkeeper | sgn: /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 20:10.35 | sgn | ill check it out :) |
| 20:10.47 | kenro | I'm having trouble resolving an issue with kde trash app. Either it's falsely claiming to be full or I'm not finding all the locations. Might someone assist? |
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| 20:11.24 | jhutchins_lt | kenro: Which kde? |
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| 20:12.14 | kenro | Thank you J. No sanctions. Hold on I check. |
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| 20:12.29 | DammitJim | anyone done a config of spamassassin with exim4 from the debian packages? it seems that spamassassin is working from the tests I did, but exim doesn't seem to be recognizing anything |
| 20:12.37 | manischewitzbaco | hmm. i can't seem to get sshfs to use my private key to mount. previously (on my mac) , just using the key to SSH has been enough for sshfs to know to use the same key. am i missing something? |
| 20:13.03 | jhutchins_lt | DammitJim: Sorry, postgress->postfix here. |
| 20:13.20 | jhutchins_lt | Which evolved from sendmail->postfix, so... |
| 20:13.26 | DammitJim | thanks jhutchins_lt :) |
| 20:13.31 | manischewitzbaco | i've already added some options to my sshfs command w/ an alias: alias sshfs="sudo sshfs -o ssh_command='ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa' -o follow_symlinks" |
| 20:13.39 | kenro | That's four four five jhutchins |
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| 20:15.53 | DammitJim | this is weird... I have no clue where to go for this. I go to #exim and they don't want me there because this is a debian package and the same with #spamassassin |
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| 20:17.15 | jhutchins_lt | DammitJim: Yeah, those are really dev channels not support channels. |
| 20:17.36 | jhutchins_lt | DammitJim: Most of the documentation is obsolete and doesn't match how stuff is packaged/installed today anyway. |
| 20:17.37 | ansgar | manischewitzbaco: Why do you use sudo? |
| 20:17.56 | DammitJim | I think I might have found something for lenny that could work |
| 20:18.16 | manischewitzbaco | ansgar: because it worked even less without it |
| 20:18.59 | manischewitzbaco | fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied |
| 20:19.01 | ansgar | manischewitzbaco: Did you add your user account to the fuse group? |
| 20:19.11 | manischewitzbaco | hmm. |
| 20:19.24 | jhutchins_lt | DammitJim: promising hits for "exim4 spamassassin debian", I'll let you sort them out. |
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| 20:19.45 | jhutchins_lt | manischewitzbaco: ...and log out and back in. |
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| 20:20.04 | jnix_work | oh hello #debian how's it going today |
| 20:20.53 | manischewitzbaco | ansgar jhutchins_lt thanks! |
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| 20:21.05 | DammitJim | jhutchins_lt, I've read through them, but they don't use apt-get install spamassassin exim4 and such |
| 20:21.09 | DammitJim | they ask you to compile the code |
| 20:21.22 | jhutchins_lt | I hate that. |
| 20:21.29 | Hyperi | And once again I forgot the package name which included all the basic compiled, anyone? :) |
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| 20:21.39 | jhutchins_lt | "First, recompile the kernel to enable the new font on the console". |
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| 20:22.04 | Hyperi | compilers* |
| 20:22.10 | kenro | I think oe of the prime disadvantages to IRC is you sit and wait, when you should be working, not knowing if anyone actually tries to help you. Patiently wasting the days, or become the ogretroll you always wanted to be. |
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| 20:22.22 | jhutchins_lt | build-essential? |
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| 20:22.29 | Hyperi | jhutchins_lt: ty :> |
| 20:22.38 | jhutchins_lt | kenro: Which kde? |
| 20:22.50 | kenro | 4.4.5 |
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| 20:23.12 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, I see your answer now. |
| 20:23.47 | jhutchins_lt | kenro: I don't generally mess with the trash can. I think a lot of us are more console-oriented, so there may not be anybody familiar with it. |
| 20:24.09 | jhutchins_lt | kenro: The mailing list may be a more effective resource. |
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| 20:24.28 | kenro | hokay I waste more time bug tracking... |
| 20:24.53 | jhutchins_lt | kenro: All I know is that in those rare, brief moments when I don't have a full-screen window over it, my desktop has nothing but the trash can on it. |
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| 20:25.20 | jhutchins_lt | I rarely manage files with the browser since konqueror went south. |
| 20:26.21 | kenro | I know how you feel. I put the trashcan in the panel so I don't hafta worry about the desktop. Why has kong 'gone south'? |
| 20:26.22 | jhutchins_lt | DammitJim: http://koivi.com/exim4-config/ |
| 20:26.41 | stevieman | ok, so it was a missing kernal module for my adaptec 94xx card (aic-94xx-seq.fw) How do I fix this so I do not need my USBkey for every bootup |
| 20:26.49 | kenro | jhutchins_lt: I know how you feel. I put the trashcan in the panel so I don't hafta worry about the desktop. Why has kong 'gone south'? |
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| 20:27.22 | jhutchins_lt | kenro: They really stopped trying at some point. Used to be my favorite browser, but then they forked the file manager off of it and let a lot of things fall behind. |
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| 20:27.52 | Zoik | hi all, anyone know why permitrootlogin no will not work? |
| 20:27.55 | jhutchins_lt | kenro: Particularly keyboard navigation. |
| 20:28.08 | Zoik | I've done this and restarted ssh however no joy |
| 20:28.25 | jhutchins_lt | Zoik: Did you restart sshd? |
| 20:28.28 | Zoik | yup |
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| 20:28.36 | Pihti | Zoik, what is the exact form on that line? |
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| 20:28.43 | Zoik | PermitRootLogin no |
| 20:28.52 | jhutchins_lt | Zoik: should just give you a password error. |
| 20:29.02 | kenro | Never really cared for hotkeys ad such, myself. I can still barely type after 10+years using. |
| 20:29.03 | Zoik | it doesn't, it actually allows me to login |
| 20:29.36 | dclarke_ | anyone have a clue how to setup a new postscript printer in squeeze ? does one use ... what ? cups ? the HP website says http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html Debian stable supplies HPLIP 2.8.6 and it does not support your printer. |
| 20:29.54 | Pihti | Zoik: does it give you to login using root@foo.net? |
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| 20:30.10 | jhutchins_lt | kenro: It's a skill worth developing. There are typing tutors in linux. Spend 30 minutes a day with one. |
| 20:30.20 | Pihti | If you login as normal user and then use su/sudo, it is allowed. |
| 20:30.23 | Zoik | n/m ignore me! |
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| 20:30.34 | Zoik | I was making the changes in ssh_config |
| 20:30.38 | Zoik | not sshd_config :P |
| 20:30.48 | Zoik | done in sshd and it works fine now :/ |
| 20:31.55 | dclarke_ | never mind .. I'll figure it out |
| 20:31.55 | kenro | I check #kde, then... |
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| 20:34.10 | ga_bash | Hi guys, I am using debian-lenny. I am trying to install libmysqlclient . First I did aptitude search libmysqlclient which returned me a package 'libmysqlclient15-dev ' . but when I try to install it using aptitude install package, it says that package not found. :( . any idea guys ? |
| 20:34.40 | jhutchins_lt | ga_bash: Why do you think you need that library? |
| 20:34.50 | jhutchins_lt | ga_bash: The -dev files just provide the headers. |
| 20:35.17 | ga_bash | jhutchins, I need it for developing FastCgi Application. |
| 20:35.31 | ga_bash | jhutchins_lt, |
| 20:36.01 | kenro | Also just came up while I was here: where do I find doc on perm setting env vars? |
| 20:36.05 | jhutchins_lt | ga_bash: It should install with mysql-client |
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| 20:38.23 | ga_bash | jhutchins_lt, I still get "404 not found" :( |
| 20:38.33 | jhutchins_lt | ... |
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| 20:39.42 | ga_bash | jhutchins_lt, Err http://http.us.debian.org lenny/main mysql-client 5.0.51a-24+lenny2+spu1 |
| 20:39.42 | ga_bash | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.20 | else- | how do i set a spindown value for disks that are member of a sw raid array? |
| 20:41.39 | else- | i tried setting the same value for all of them but they keep spinning up after having spun down |
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| 20:44.34 | Spec | This is a little offtopic, but I see it a lot in here; http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem :) |
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| 20:44.56 | jhutchins_lt | Do you have the firmware installed? |
| 20:45.07 | jhutchins_lt | oOPS. |
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| 20:51.48 | jelly-home | Spec: we haff a factoid for that. |
| 20:52.07 | jelly-home | Spec: /msg dpkg xyproblem |
| 20:52.31 | Spec | put down the chocolate covered banana :) |
| 20:52.51 | jelly-home | and step away from european currency systems |
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| 20:53.27 | jelly-home | it's a better read than greycat's page IMHO. /me looks around |
| 20:53.36 | spal | I did aptitude install python2.7 on wheezy, now how do I run python2.7 ? |
| 20:53.40 | kenro | And for my second question again and again repeated: where do I find doc on perm setting env vars? |
| 20:53.42 | spal | python still launches python 2.6.6 |
| 20:53.49 | Spec | jelly-home: is the wooledge greycat's? |
| 20:54.02 | jelly-home | Spec: that's the same person, yes. |
| 20:54.26 | Spec | jelly-home: i liked that one, too. good, clear examples ;) |
| 20:54.28 | Spec | jelly-home: "Hey guys, I'm trying to use lpr to manage my mp3 queue..." ;) |
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| 21:01.43 | dualcore | hi. i'm trying to use Scheduled Tasks to manage a cron job, it works if i click to run the task now, but it doesn't run at the scheduled time like it is supposed to |
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| 21:02.09 | else- | guess you found a bug in cron ;> |
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| 21:02.33 | ActionParsnip | dualcore: try gnome-schedule to cron (or run it as root / sudo to cron as root) |
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| 21:03.28 | dualcore | ActionParsnip: oh that is actually what i am using. i shouldn't need to run it as root though right? |
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| 21:05.14 | ActionParsnip | dualcore: if the stuff you need to cron needs root access, then yes. Otherwise, no |
| 21:05.55 | dualcore | alright so i guess the problem is just that it simply isn't running when it scheduled to? are there some logs i can review to see why or anything? |
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| 21:06.23 | ActionParsnip | dualcore: I think cron makes logs in /var/log |
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| 21:08.34 | disposable | when i install and unpack linux-source-2.6.38, does that already have the debian patches in it or do i need to apply the debian patchset to get it to patchlevel 3? |
| 21:09.34 | daemonkeeper | The Debian source package contains everything to build the very same kernel shipped as binary |
| 21:10.02 | daemonkeeper | Debien Kernel source package actually, to avoid misinterpretations |
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| 21:10.57 | Martin_vW | When a package depends on a virtual package like mail-transport-agent, how does aptitude decide which package it uses to fulfill this dependency? It always seems to use exim4-daemon-light, but with using aptitude show on several MTAs, I can't find the reason for that. |
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| 21:12.52 | jelly-home | disposable: http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage |
| 21:13.51 | jelly-home | disposable: also: /msg dpkg make-kpkg |
| 21:14.03 | ZykoticK9 | I'm running into an issue with Icedove's filtering/junk detection - although I have rules set up for filtering my various mailing lists (including debian-user both "to" and "cc"), much of the lists mail is being tagged as junk and end up in the "Junk" folder. Many of these not-junk mails are not cross posting, and only have the list as receiver. Sorting through Junk and having to use the "Not Junk" button on 20+ emails at a time is, shall we say, "no |
| 21:14.03 | ZykoticK9 | t convenient." Any suggestions? |
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| 21:16.03 | ZykoticK9 | Actually specifying the Junk folder and running the filter(s) manually on the Junk folder do move the emails to their correct location - so doing them individually is solved. |
| 21:16.34 | disposable | daemonkeeper: so there is no need to run /usr/src/kernel-patches/all/2.6.38/apply/debian? the kernel handbook never makes it clear whether the debian patches have to be applied |
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| 21:17.57 | dkr | Martin_vW: I'm not sure how the decision is made if no version specified for a virtual package with conflicting providers, but at least some extra details are here which may be relevant to you: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual |
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| 21:18.15 | jhutchins_lt | !alternatives |
| 21:18.15 | dpkg | from memory, alternatives is the way Debian manages multiple applications with the same function. For more info, man update-alternatives. Have a look at the galternatives package or ask me about <update-alternatives> <java alternatives>. |
| 21:18.37 | jhutchins_lt | Martin_vW: ^ |
| 21:18.44 | Rupan | I want to get an external monitor working with Debian 5. When using Ubuntu 10.10, there is a Monitors applet which allows for this type of configuration. But this isn't present in Debian 5. |
| 21:18.53 | Rupan | is there a package I need to install? |
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| 21:19.04 | daemonkeeper | Martin_vW: Many packages provide alternatives like depends on exim4-daemon-light | mail-transport-agent or default-mta | mail-transport-agent. Unless you provide the alternative you explicitly want, apt will pick the other package, or, if none, the first it finds (I think for the latter). |
| 21:19.10 | dkr | ZykoticK9: be sure to train your junk filter by marking stuff as not junk occasionally, as well |
| 21:19.22 | jhutchins_lt | Rupan: xrandr should do what you need. |
| 21:19.27 | Martin_vW | dkr: it seems that the packages themselves are recommending or depending on exim4|mta. |
| 21:19.36 | Martin_vW | daemonkeeper: yes, that's what I realized just now :) |
| 21:19.43 | Martin_vW | Thanks for the help, I was just curious. |
| 21:19.56 | Rupan | jhutchins_lt: I tried that. The xrandr command succeeds, but the monitor configuration does not change. |
| 21:20.06 | dkr | Martin_vW: ah. cool. I'm still curious how it will be decided if you *only* depend on mta |
| 21:20.13 | ZykoticK9 | dkr, it appears to work for the individual file - but needs to be manually run on everyone :( Unless the learning is only for incoming messages (which would be understandable, and as yet untested). Thanks. |
| 21:20.14 | DammitJim | I want to run a shell script to check if xbmc is running.. if it isn't, then start it, what do I use? |
| 21:20.27 | jhutchins_lt | Rupan: You'll have to give us more detail on your hardware then. I'm on my way out the door. |
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| 21:20.49 | Rupan | jhutchins_lt: in other words, I run xrandr, telling it to output to LVDS and VGA. The command completes without error, but the resolution of the LVDS panel does not change and the external monitor is not enabled. |
| 21:21.10 | Martin_vW | dkr: somebody ought to try it on an empty Debian VM, but I don't really have on ready atm :) |
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| 21:21.32 | dkr | ZykoticK9: I mean manually mark as "not junk" to train the spam filter. not related to your own filter |
| 21:21.49 | daemonkeeper | disposable: If you follow the procedure as provided by jelly-home's link pointing to the wiki, you should not need to do. |
| 21:22.13 | ZykoticK9 | dkr, sorry - ya I was following ya - didn't mean to confuse you, as your message was received clearly ;) |
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| 21:22.44 | dkr | no worries. extra words can't hurt. :) |
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| 21:23.29 | twobitsprite | is there something like freeipa but for us debian folks? |
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| 21:25.01 | jelly-home | twobitsprite: what is freeipa. |
| 21:25.09 | dkr | twobitsprite: probably best to explain what it is as we debian folks might recognize it then without having used whatever non-debian thing you are talking about. :) |
| 21:25.23 | daemonkeeper | heh, was thinking the same |
| 21:25.47 | twobitsprite | it's a fedora based distribution which pre-installs openLDAP, DNS, NIS, etc and and nifty web interface for administering them |
| 21:26.09 | daemonkeeper | Unless there is Pure Blend, no. |
| 21:26.11 | twobitsprite | "FreeIPA is an integrated security information management solution combining Linux (Fedora), 389 (formerly known as Fedora Directory Server), MIT Kerberos, NTP, DNS. It consists of a web interface and command-line administration tools. " |
| 21:26.12 | dkr | twobitsprite: check out sssd |
| 21:26.29 | dkr | did aptitude search ~dfreeipa |
| 21:28.04 | twobitsprite | hmm, that's a start |
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| 21:29.30 | sgn | Looking at /etc/init.d/skeleton I don't think it's good for firewalls? No pidfile to check for instance? Other suggestions? |
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| 21:30.25 | daemonkeeper | sgn: Instance of what? A firewall is usually no more than a set or rules loaded at boot time |
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| 21:31.35 | sgn | exactly. I tried using my old script and debian complained about its layout... |
| 21:31.36 | twobitsprite | sgn: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:32.00 | daemonkeeper | sgn: All you need are the LSB headers |
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| 21:32.37 | var_ | Right now iceweasal seems to have the wrong language set for spelling despite English being set as the language |
| 21:32.49 | var_ | I'm not sure if this is a OS issue or a Fx issue |
| 21:32.54 | var_ | but can anyone help me debug |
| 21:32.57 | daemonkeeper | sgn: So strip off everything within do_start/do_stop and insert your boot/shutdown code there |
| 21:33.49 | sgn | well, do_reload wont work either? |
| 21:33.56 | daemonkeeper | sgn: Just make sure you return 0 (or iptables return code) and you're donw |
| 21:33.56 | daemonkeeper | *done |
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| 21:34.28 | disposable | daemonkeeper: but i can't follow that procedure. i'm on squeeze, trying to install 2.6.38 with as few modules as possible, vserver, low latency, preempt. etc. that's why i had a very simple y/n question. |
| 21:34.37 | daemonkeeper | sgn: Do nothing or call do_stop do_start in order |
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| 21:35.14 | daemonkeeper | sgn: Again, its up to you /what/ you do. The important thing is just the LSB header, that are the comments on the top |
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| 21:37.04 | sgn | I just want my trusty old fw script up with the ability to start, stop and reload. For some reason it became much more complicated with deb6. I can't exactly call iptables a daemon, now can I? |
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| 21:37.22 | daemonkeeper | disposable: You don't need to use the Debian kernel source at all, you can use the vanilla (or whatever patched) kernel if you want too, see make-kpkg |
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| 21:37.45 | daemonkeeper | dpkg: tell disposable about make-kpkg |
| 21:38.07 | Martin_vW | dkr: I went ahead and tried it :). aptitude chose citadel-mta, which is alphabetically sorted the first MTA in the list. |
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| 21:39.01 | daemonkeeper | sgn: You don't even need anything related with daemon tasks. In fact, your script is called with the argument "start" on boot time, "stop" on shutdown and everything else is totally up to you. |
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| 21:39.32 | daemonkeeper | sgn: To satisfy insserv you just need a LSB header |
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| 21:40.08 | daemonkeeper | dpkg: tell sgn about lsb tags |
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| 21:42.07 | daemonkeeper | Martin_vW: Which proves I was assuming |
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| 21:43.43 | n1x_ | hi guys |
| 21:43.51 | n1x_ | i wanna install gnome 3 on fedora 13 |
| 21:44.04 | n1x_ | how to can anybody's give me step by step tut? :) |
| 21:44.10 | daemonkeeper | Can't tell how wrong you are here ;) |
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| 21:44.43 | daemonkeeper | a) This is #debian b) #debian is not Fedora c) Debian has no gnome3 ready (yet) |
| 21:44.47 | n1x_ | and i have little time :) |
| 21:44.50 | n1x_ | please :) |
| 21:45.01 | n1x_ | daemonkeeper: i know but on fedora channel i dont have registered nick |
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| 21:45.15 | daemonkeeper | Please, this channel is for Debian /only/ |
| 21:45.56 | robokop | we even don't do debian derivatives, let alone something so alien as fedora |
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| 21:47.25 | diegoviola | guys i'm getting this: https://gist.github.com/914433 |
| 21:47.28 | diegoviola | any ideas? |
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| 21:47.49 | diegoviola | # cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:47.49 | diegoviola | 5.0.8 |
| 21:48.16 | aph___ | hi, mount.nfs: mount(2): Invalid argument |
| 21:48.36 | aph___ | sorry, please can anybody have idea why the mount doesnt work? |
| 21:48.50 | aph___ | mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified |
| 21:49.16 | aph___ | i cant see any incorrect opt, its just mount.nfs ip:path destpath |
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| 21:49.57 | diegoviola | anyone please? |
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| 21:52.07 | aph___ | anyone? |
| 21:52.12 | jhutchins_lt | diegoviola: aptitude -f install |
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| 21:53.00 | aph___ | hm |
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| 21:53.53 | diegoviola | jhutchins_lt: https://gist.github.com/914447 |
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| 21:54.23 | ZykoticK9 | aph___, seeing your actual line would help a lot - but do you have a space in the path or anything? You could also try using "mount -t nfs BLAH" (should give same result). The error suggesting something wrong with the command your giving, thus seeing it would be helpful. |
| 21:55.21 | aph___ | ZykoticK9: i did with mount -t nfs , it was same. |
| 21:55.22 | daemonkeeper | diegoviola: Paste a apt-cache policy somewhere |
| 21:55.33 | daemonkeeper | I bet you're using unofficial resources |
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| 21:55.56 | diegoviola | daemonkeeper: it's not my server |
| 21:56.11 | aph___ | ZykoticK9: mount -t nfs IP:/big/mails /big/mails/ |
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| 21:56.35 | aph___ | ZykoticK9: mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified |
| 21:56.39 | ZykoticK9 | aph___, that looks fine, but your real one obviously isn't - best of luck. |
| 21:56.43 | diegoviola | daemonkeeper: https://gist.github.com/914455 |
| 21:57.13 | aph___ | ZykoticK9: ? |
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| 21:58.24 | ZykoticK9 | aph___, the error is telling you that you're giving it something it can't understand (invalid argument = user error, basically) |
| 21:58.29 | daemonkeeper | diegoviola: wtf is 500 http://apt.assembla.com sid/main Packages and what does this on your Lenny sources.list? |
| 21:58.47 | jhutchins_lt | aph___: does /big/mails exist? |
| 21:58.47 | aph___ | ZykoticK9: i cant see any stuff incorrect |
| 21:58.50 | aph___ | ZykoticK9: do you? |
| 21:59.03 | ZykoticK9 | aph___, i can't help you. good luck. |
| 21:59.07 | aph___ | ZykoticK9: yes |
| 21:59.08 | jhutchins_lt | aph___: On the box you're trying to mount to? |
| 21:59.30 | diegoviola | daemonkeeper: i have no idea, this is not my server |
| 21:59.39 | diegoviola | daemonkeeper: i will have to ask their admin, thanks for the help, though |
| 21:59.43 | jhutchins_lt | !tell aph___ about nfs |
| 21:59.44 | aph___ | jhutchins_lt: i have box where nfs is suppose to run, the command im tryin is on the box that i want to connect to nfs server |
| 21:59.59 | daemonkeeper | diegoviola: http://apt.assembla.com/debian/pool/main/t/ See here, there are conflicting packages |
| 22:00.13 | daemonkeeper | diegoviola: Those badly mess up your system |
| 22:00.24 | ZykoticK9 | jhutchins, if you try mounting to something that doesn't exist you get "mount.nfs: mount point /Blash does not exist" |
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| 22:00.46 | ZykoticK9 | jhutchins_lt, ^ |
| 22:00.57 | diegoviola | daemonkeeper: i see, i will inform the admin, thanks |
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| 22:07.04 | dvs | uuuuuuuuuuuuu |
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| 22:07.24 | var_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:07.27 | var_ | can anyone help me debug |
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| 22:10.59 | MrFrood | var_: As far as I am aware Iceweasel/FireFox handles spelling internally using it's own settings |
| 22:11.27 | daemonkeeper | Moreover it needs a plugin containing the dictionary I think |
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| 22:13.29 | var_ | MrFrood: daemonkeeper I have the plugin containing the English dictionary |
| 22:13.36 | var_ | and no other dictonaries |
| 22:14.43 | var_ | actually - thanks - I found the about:config setting :-) |
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| 22:16.00 | sacredchao | I have a problem on my laptop where my mouse buttons/scrolling randomly stops working, and I can't figure out a fix outside of rebooting. |
| 22:16.07 | sacredchao | My mouse cursor can move freely. |
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| 22:16.22 | sacredchao | External USB mice also are broken in the same way... no buttons/scrolling but free cursor movement |
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| 22:25.40 | Bushmills | sacredchao: on sid? |
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| 22:26.17 | sacredchao | Bushmills: mmmaaayyybbbeeeee |
| 22:26.30 | Bushmills | heard that before |
| 22:26.55 | Bushmills | maybe you hit a bug in sid |
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| 22:38.22 | ActionParsnip | sacredchao: when it happens, run: dmes | tail it may give clues |
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| 22:39.15 | ZykoticK9 | sacredchao, typo above its" dmesg | tail |
| 22:39.16 | sacredchao | ActionParsnip: I assume you meant 'dmesg' |
| 22:39.22 | sacredchao | But I only see wlan messages when I run "dmesg | tail" |
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| 22:39.54 | sacredchao | Yeah but nothing useful... nothing input related |
| 22:40.14 | ActionParsnip | sacredchao: yes, my mistake. Dang thought it'd show something. What make / model laptop is it? |
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| 22:40.26 | sacredchao | Thinkpad X301 |
| 22:40.42 | sacredchao | But it's also a bug affecting external mice, not just the built-in trackpoint buttons and scrolling |
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| 22:43.35 | ActionParsnip | sacredchao: may help: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint |
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| 22:55.21 | cesurasean | Can someone explain to me how I can convert a current 32bit machine to 64bit? Is there an easy trick to this? |
| 22:55.34 | cesurasean | squeeze install... |
| 22:56.15 | kgoetz | you reinstall |
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| 22:58.06 | dondelelcaro | or you wait for multiarch support |
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| 22:59.00 | ActionParsnip | cesurasean: reinstall is the only way to change arch |
| 22:59.40 | daemonkeeper | Not the only, but the only reliable. There are completely unsupported, discouraged "disclaimer: this is not possible" howtos around |
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| 22:59.48 | kristian-aalborg | hello |
| 23:00.15 | ompaul | daemonkeeper: the ones that eat your cat, your data, and your dinner? |
| 23:00.27 | daemonkeeper | Sort of, yes. |
| 23:00.40 | ompaul | cesurasean: are you seeing a trend in the answers? |
| 23:00.49 | kristian-aalborg | can I "cheat" to get a program from unstable by editing sources.list to "squeeze", then get the program and edit back to "stable"? |
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| 23:01.19 | daemonkeeper | And I mean entirely "unsupported", not unsupported as Sid is, but "really, it might work. Mostly" |
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| 23:02.15 | sgn | I'm trying to make sure L2TP traffic is INSIDE ipsec traffic, but it seems default deb6 doesn't contain the required iptables policy |
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| 23:10.03 | neiz | anyone familiar with the ati proprietary drivers? I am trying to enable hardware rendering but am having some trouble (gfx card is Radeon 5770) |
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| 23:10.49 | cesurasean | how do i install "boost" onto squeeze? |
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| 23:12.24 | cesurasean | aptitude install libboost-all-dev, nevermind... |
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| 23:13.15 | sgn | erm... how do I enable ipsec/xl2tpd at startup? |
| 23:13.27 | sgn | apt installed them, but their initscripts dont run at boot |
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| 23:15.13 | sgn | noone? though it was like /etc/init.d/abc123 enable? |
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| 23:16.36 | ajikeshi | sgn, /etc/init.d/foobar start is more common |
| 23:16.47 | sgn | suuure, but to make them run at boot? |
| 23:16.50 | ajikeshi | or status restart stop |
| 23:17.02 | ajikeshi | you have to add it to a runlevel |
| 23:17.13 | ajikeshi | google: debian runlevel add daemon |
| 23:17.22 | sgn | other things are autoadded? |
| 23:17.33 | ajikeshi | what do you mean by other things? |
| 23:17.34 | sgn | didnt have to do it for sshd or samba? |
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| 23:17.41 | ajikeshi | depends on the package |
| 23:17.44 | ajikeshi | some are some arent |
| 23:18.49 | sgn | runleves are included in the initscripts, right? |
| 23:19.05 | ajikeshi | why do you have a service online that wasnt configured by you and wher you dont know how it bhaves |
| 23:19.09 | ajikeshi | yes |
| 23:19.24 | ajikeshi | http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Runlevel_Config_Tools_for_Debian |
| 23:19.27 | ajikeshi | ^^ first hit:P |
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| 23:19.56 | sgn | crap. whats update-rc.d-insserv? |
| 23:20.07 | ajikeshi | well its one way to do it |
| 23:20.11 | ajikeshi | you can do it manually too |
| 23:20.16 | ajikeshi | or with different tools |
| 23:20.38 | ajikeshi | just read how runlevels work and you know what to do |
| 23:20.45 | ws2k3 | when i try to install vmware workstation i get this error: |
| 23:20.45 | ws2k3 | http://paste.debian.net/113734/ |
| 23:20.54 | sgn | debian used to be minimalistic. now I need a diploma in bash scripting to make a friggin startup script and i have TWO tools for adding scripts to runlevel? |
| 23:21.39 | ajikeshi | sgn, more like 10 or 20 |
| 23:21.49 | ajikeshi | its all about choice :D |
| 23:21.52 | sgn | i know what runlevels are, but whats the difference between update-rc.d-insserv and good old update-rc.d? |
| 23:22.10 | ajikeshi | sgn, sysv and non sysv? |
| 23:22.41 | peterlnx | Hello everyone!!! |
| 23:22.50 | ajikeshi | http://www.unix.com/man-page/All/8/update-rc.d-insserv/ |
| 23:23.20 | ajikeshi | sorry if that sounds impolite... but just rtfm |
| 23:24.00 | sgn | oooooh. so in the shining new deb6 they included a new, but obsolete implementation of update-rc.d? |
| 23:24.18 | ajikeshi | O_o |
| 23:24.29 | sgn | can't say I saw it in core lenny? |
| 23:24.48 | ajikeshi | sgn, then you mustve installed it yourself |
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| 23:25.20 | sgn | openswan, openssh-server, x2ltpd and samba <--- Thats all |
| 23:25.43 | sgn | lets check depends |
| 23:25.49 | ajikeshi | sgn, are you sure it is being used... and not just there to "have" it? |
| 23:27.52 | sgn | i dunno know. and I can't see why any of the installed packages would depend on it so it would be bundled by apt |
| 23:28.13 | ajikeshi | maybe some ppl found it convinient to have it around |
| 23:28.29 | sgn | my box, installed deb6 two days ago? |
| 23:28.45 | ajikeshi | ya... but there must be a reason why its included :D |
| 23:28.57 | sgn | you dont have it? |
| 23:29.10 | ajikeshi | just checked.. its on my system as well |
| 23:30.31 | sgn | hmm |
| 23:30.57 | sgn | it it "update-rc.d ipsec defaults" or "update-rc.d ipsec start"? |
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| 23:31.17 | ajikeshi | man update-rc.d |
| 23:31.26 | sgn | or "update-rc.d-insserv enable" <---- Now i have three choices. years of development well spent, I assume |
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| 23:31.33 | ajikeshi | loool |
| 23:31.45 | ajikeshi | more like... they are around for a decade :D |
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| 23:35.12 | sgn | I just have to stop caring about minimalism, I suppose. One of the reasons I use Debian, not bloatbuntu. whatever. |
| 23:35.56 | ajikeshi | hehe :D |
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| 23:37.32 | sgn | google used to be more useful before everyone started seeding fake contents to show up in the search results. I can't for the love of god make google link me to a site that tells me how to get ipsec to support policies? |
| 23:37.46 | ajikeshi | full ack |
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| 23:38.29 | sgn | ? |
| 23:38.47 | ajikeshi | i totally agree |
| 23:38.58 | ajikeshi | SEO is a pita |
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| 23:39.14 | diegoviola | SOAP is a pita also |
| 23:39.32 | ajikeshi | depends on how you apply it ;) |
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| 23:41.51 | sgn | woho, the missing ipsec policy match was a reported bug in 2005 |
| 23:42.04 | sgn | for some reason it applies to squeeze= |
| 23:42.06 | sgn | ? |
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| 23:43.41 | abrotman | did you send a patch? |
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| 23:46.51 | sgn | no, found it on maillist |
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| 23:54.11 | hiexpo | ? how can i send email with my terminal |
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| 23:54.41 | abrotman | hiexpo: like send a file? or just send email ? |
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| 23:54.50 | linuxrctx | hello every body |
| 23:54.59 | hiexpo | abrotman, just text mail |
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| 23:55.09 | abrotman | hiexpo: mutt? alpine? |
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| 23:55.54 | hiexpo | abrotman, i tried mutt and could not find anything on setting it up |
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| 23:56.00 | defpon | hi - running a bash script (calling aptitude) with cron - why would I get dpkg-preconfigure: unable to re-open stdin: | debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog | debconf: (TERM is not set, so the dialog frontend is not usable.) |
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| 23:56.12 | lockon | Hi, what syntax could I use to for NAT so that the device behind the firewall/router sees the original source IP of a request and not the firewall/router's IP? |
| 23:56.17 | abrotman | hiexpo: oh bull .. google has thousands of pages about using mutt |
| 23:56.28 | abrotman | hiexpo: alpine is semi-easy also |
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| 23:57.28 | Bushmills | lockon: how would the server send the reply back, if the sender was the NATted interface? |
| 23:57.37 | hiexpo | abrotman, i found lotsof stuff yes but nothing on the configuration i found one doc about the mutt.rc file but had no mutt.rc file in home dir |
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| 23:58.04 | abrotman | hiexpo: right .. you create it from scratch |
| 23:58.04 | lockon | Bushmills: SNAT. |
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| 23:58.10 | Bushmills | lockon: if original ip address is good for sender, you don't need NAT |
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| 23:58.47 | Pnux | hey, im going to install Debian over Ubuntu which was installed with /home in a different partition. Is there a tutorial on how to install Debian using the existing /home partition? I just dont wanna screw it up |
| 23:58.55 | Bushmills | just forward the packet, don't NAT it |
| 23:58.57 | lockon | Bushmills, three devices, and the middle one is a firewall. |
