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| 21:34.12 | NoReflex | arcsky, perhaps a group? |
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| 21:34.48 | Gijs | Hello people |
| 21:34.53 | Gijs | i need to replace text from a file |
| 21:34.58 | trinx | hello Gijs |
| 21:35.05 | Gijs | But i need to replace: LOCK TABLES ***** WRITE; |
| 21:35.14 | Gijs | the ***** can be anything |
| 21:35.19 | Gijs | How i'm going to do this? |
| 21:35.20 | dondelelcaro | Gijs: so write a regex. |
| 21:35.28 | Gijs | I don't know how |
| 21:35.40 | dondelelcaro | Gijs: perldoc perlretut; to start with |
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| 21:35.55 | trinx | that doesn't sounds like a "GNU/Debian support" think |
| 21:36.02 | trinx | thing* |
| 21:36.12 | dondelelcaro | perl -pi -e s'/lock tables (.*?) write;//g' for example... |
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| 21:36.35 | Gijs | i don't see a filename in that line |
| 21:36.47 | dondelelcaro | Gijs: because I didn't give one |
| 21:37.17 | Gijs | Oke can you give me a correct line? |
| 21:37.25 | dondelelcaro | perldoc perlrun; for details on how to specify one. |
| 21:38.23 | babilen | You might also want to look into awk and sed |
| 21:38.28 | babilen | !tell Gijs -about awk |
| 21:38.30 | babilen | !tell Gijs -about sed |
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| 21:39.57 | babilen | Gijs: Please note that we can't really do you job for you and you have to at least show some motivation to learn about the tools needed to perform your task. |
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| 21:41.05 | streuner_ | sounds like a homework to me |
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| 21:41.27 | ajfka | update: I could boot the 2.6.32-5 kernel with the NOLAPIC boot parameter, though the previous version (2.6.26-2) didn't need any parameter. |
| 21:42.26 | streuner_ | NOAPIC you usually need in order to solve problems about IRQs |
| 21:42.39 | ajfka | not sure if the LiveCD version could boot without it, either. Sometimes it hanged on precisely the same step as the installed kernel, but seemed to go on after a quite long while with the live bootup... |
| 21:42.46 | streuner_ | but thats strange, IMO |
| 21:42.54 | ajfka | yeah, I used NO_L_APIC, NOAPIC did not work... |
| 21:43.03 | ajfka | that's really strange. |
| 21:43.14 | trinx | must be the season of the witch |
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| 21:44.16 | ajfka | well, it hanged after a couple of PCI lines, in the very beginning of the boot. It didn't even try to locate hard disks, I believe, before hanging... |
| 21:44.29 | ajfka | so I suppose that's not related to the new PATA drives in the new kernel version. |
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| 21:46.10 | jhutchins_lt | Remember that displayed/logged lines are usually the last thing that _suceeded_. |
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| 21:49.53 | omnipotentduo | Ok, so now that I have the right wifi driver set up I can't connect to any wireless network I am always failing to get an IP address (according to wicd) |
| 21:50.16 | omnipotentduo | even unsecured networks |
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| 21:53.51 | rking | omnipotentduo: What are you using to connect? |
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| 21:54.00 | daniel | Hello? |
| 21:55.14 | omnipotentduo | rking, wicd |
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| 21:55.50 | rking | omnipotentduo: I've never used it. Have you already tried the /etc/network/interfaces way? |
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| 21:56.36 | omnipotentduo | no |
| 21:56.37 | rking | omnipotentduo: Just add a line: inet wlan0 inet dhcp then run: sudo ifup wlan0 |
| 21:57.01 | omnipotentduo | will try that |
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| 21:59.30 | omnipotentduo | i got ignoring unknonw interface wlan0 |
| 22:00.02 | nsadmin | if you do ifconfig wlan0 |
| 22:00.11 | nsadmin | do you get: paragraph? error? |
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| 22:01.28 | sung | quick q: when attempting an apt-get update, i receive "E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages (1)" message. apt-get os pretty much nonfunctional here. any ideas? /etc/debian_version says 5.0.4 |
| 22:01.38 | Paul_E | is there anyway I can confirm grub2 is setup correctly without rebooting? |
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| 22:01.57 | omnipotentduo | nsadmin, nope i get the standard summary |
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| 22:02.15 | nsadmin | so you get a paragraph with a name to the left |
| 22:02.46 | nsadmin | that should indicate you have the hardware driver installed and inserted |
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| 22:05.25 | omnipotentduo | nsadmin, i have the drivers set up and i was connecting yesterday but dropping about every 10 mins, last time I had that problem i went to WICD (problem solved there) now I can't even get an IP address |
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| 22:06.31 | omnipotentduo | *via wireless that is |
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| 22:06.48 | NoReflex | omnipotentduo, try to delete the network profiles for the wireless networks and try again |
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| 22:07.56 | NoReflex | when I changed the security settings for my network it wouldn't connect because the network was already added ... but obviously had different settings |
| 22:08.15 | Torne | is there a way to make debian-installer not use unicode? it interacts badly with qemu's curses frontend |
| 22:08.51 | orzo | I dont really care for google's android marke terms of service and would rather have sole admin power on my device. I'd prefer to run an android-alike that adheres to debian's philosophies. Is anything much happening in that direction? |
| 22:09.00 | lapsusbrutus | Torne: what happens? messes up keys? |
| 22:09.14 | Torne | lapsusbrutus: All the line drawing characters take up 3 horizontal chars on output |
| 22:09.20 | Torne | which makes the tty stairstepped and unusable |
| 22:09.34 | ranix | orzo: #debian-offtopic |
| 22:09.40 | Torne | qemu is presumably trashing the utf8 on the way to my tty |
| 22:09.40 | ranix | or maybe #android if there is one |
| 22:10.38 | orzo | didn't seem very offtopic, but i joined those channels |
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| 22:11.28 | orzo | debian wants to be a "universal" os that includes mobiles, doesn't it? |
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| 22:11.48 | jhutchins_lt | orzo: We're not objecting to the discussion here, we're just trying to point you to more productive spaces. |
| 22:12.35 | abrotman | !emdebian ? |
| 22:12.35 | dpkg | Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
| 22:12.59 | lapsusbrutus | Torne: Hmm that I dont know.. I remeber I had some problems with keys, but fixed that using "-k".. but doesnt sound like the same problem im afraid :\ |
| 22:13.06 | ranix | if you want to install debian on your phone it's certainly not off-topic here |
| 22:13.50 | orzo | i had debian on my prior openmoko phone |
| 22:13.52 | abrotman | just not many knowledgeable people here about it |
| 22:14.13 | Torne | putting something like debian on it is rather different to android |
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| 22:14.32 | junir3-0 | en el mir |
| 22:14.34 | Torne | android is not like other linuxes |
| 22:14.37 | jhutchins_lt | orzo: From what I've heard there's still a lot of proprietary stuff involved in getting it working. |
| 22:14.58 | lapsusbrutus | Im not buying a smartphone until I can have debian on it :p |
| 22:15.15 | orzo | nokia has maemo, a debian-based distro |
| 22:15.22 | ranix | I'm not in-the-know about these things but there are custom bootloaders and special radio firmwares |
| 22:15.27 | torrancew | <3 maemo |
| 22:15.29 | ranix | needed to even run android |
| 22:16.03 | Agiofws | hello |
| 22:16.04 | lapsusbrutus | maemo gives you full freedom to do whatever or even freedom to fail? :p |
| 22:16.04 | orzo | how debian is maemo? |
| 22:16.11 | ranix | I'm pretty sure you could get debian running in a chroot on an android phone but other than that I think it would be impossible without access to some of the proprietary stuff on these phones |
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| 22:16.36 | lapsusbrutus | freedom to fail is important |
| 22:16.46 | Agiofws | if i compile my own ffmpeg an use checkinstall to install it what are its default directories it uses ? |
| 22:16.55 | Agiofws | /usr/ or /user/local ? |
| 22:17.14 | orzo | maemo is deprecated by nokia |
| 22:17.18 | Agiofws | /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib ? |
| 22:17.21 | streuner_ | your own stuff, surely /usr/local |
| 22:17.25 | orzo | a consortium will develop meego, maemo's successor |
| 22:17.28 | Agiofws | nokia is windozzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 22:17.47 | ranix | didn't used to be |
| 22:17.51 | orzo | you can still buy a maemo phone from nokia |
| 22:17.59 | orzo | even though all their new phones are windows |
| 22:18.18 | orzo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N900 |
| 22:18.25 | Agiofws | never buying a nokia again |
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| 22:19.03 | orzo | i wanted n900, but didnt get it because it doesnt support my carriors data bands |
| 22:19.24 | alfisko | hello, sorry for offtipic, but does anyone know what is this? it should be some kind of wellknown logo, but the text is missing http://zemepis.gfxs.cz/gmvkvizy/102402.jpg |
| 22:19.28 | lapsusbrutus | n900 I have heard nice things about |
| 22:20.08 | orzo | well, i have htc inspire 4g. I'd like to see debian ported to it if possible |
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| 22:20.43 | JoshH | don't hold your breath |
| 22:21.08 | orzo | is it really much differnet than supporting an openmoko? |
| 22:21.47 | rking | wonders how openmoko compares to the droid OS |
| 22:21.59 | orzo | i didnt run openmoko |
| 22:22.04 | orzo | i tried it for a while and deleted it |
| 22:22.06 | orzo | i ran debian |
| 22:22.17 | phogg | is openmoko still being developed? |
| 22:23.12 | orzo | i'm not sure, but the daemons they used for phone services became the opensmartphone project which i ran on debian and that continues i think |
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| 22:23.30 | phogg | If you want a Debian phone I seriously recommend getting the n900. I have one, it's fantastic. The fact that meego is switching to a non-Debian base is disappointing, but they did do it once (and well). |
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| 22:23.42 | phogg | But it's more of a mini tablet than a phone. |
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| 22:23.51 | srmaddox | What would be the easy way to delete the folder '.xyz' from the directory /var/somepath recursively? |
| 22:24.19 | streuner_ | well, just use "mc" ;-) |
| 22:24.20 | phogg | srmaddox: find |
| 22:24.22 | srmaddox | i.e. not just recursing into .xyz |
| 22:24.31 | daemonkeeper | find |
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| 22:24.41 | daemonkeeper | Using -exec and -name |
| 22:24.42 | srmaddox | ah ok...not sure how to use find, time to see manpage |
| 22:24.52 | phogg | or just don't use wildcards, rm -r /var/somepath/.xyz/ |
| 22:25.02 | phogg | srmaddox: look at -delete |
| 22:25.13 | orzo | i am not attached to gnu/linux for my mobile. Something like apt and a debian-like infrastructure and policy for a custom android rom would be nice too. |
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| 22:25.31 | phogg | orzo: if only it existed |
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| 22:31.17 | orzo | should it exist? I'm not sure what makes more sense: porting debian to mobile or simply an open debian android distro. |
| 22:31.45 | Torne | "debian android" doesn't make sense, is the thing |
| 22:31.51 | Torne | the android userspace is nothing like a regular linux system |
| 22:31.58 | Torne | you can't just put the debian tools on top and have anything sensible |
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| 22:32.05 | orzo | i'm aware of that |
| 22:32.17 | orzo | debian is an organiztion though, not just a computing environment |
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| 22:32.43 | Torne | but if you can't reuse *any* of the technical parts sensibly then you're probably going to find it difficult to get anyone interested :) |
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| 22:34.01 | orzo | people with android devices perhaps? |
| 22:34.47 | phogg | orzo: what makes an android device an android device? |
| 22:35.09 | orzo | it's os is based on the android platform |
| 22:35.19 | phogg | orzo: meaning, just build a distro that uses a similar kernel for hardware support and put whatever you like in userland. Include an android-style VM for app compat. |
| 22:35.39 | Torne | you can't just include an "android-style VM" |
| 22:35.55 | Torne | you have to include Dalvik. and dalvik directly depends on most of android's odd userland frameworks |
| 22:35.56 | phogg | Torne: it's not a trivial effort but it could be done |
| 22:35.58 | Torne | and on Bionic and so on |
| 22:36.31 | phogg | didn't some company create an android emulator for another phone OS? |
| 22:36.43 | Torne | it doesn't work very well |
| 22:36.49 | Torne | and it can't run anythign that uses any native code |
| 22:37.02 | Torne | because native code also expects the bionic userland |
| 22:37.24 | orzo | can the same kernel be used for an android rootfs or a gnu/linux rootfs? |
| 22:37.57 | Torne | not nicely, various things work differently to mainline in the android kernel |
| 22:37.59 | orzo | i would expect that probably a hybrid flexible kernel could be made |
| 22:38.09 | Torne | but that problem is comparitively minor ;) |
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| 22:38.51 | Matt__ | Hello guys |
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| 22:41.27 | ksx4system | few hours ago I installed Debian 6 with XFCE on my Asus EEE 1015PD. Now I have nearly everything working but not Elantech touchpad |
| 22:41.43 | ksx4system | how do I configure it to allow tap-to-click? |
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| 22:43.08 | Matt__ | ksx4system, install synaptiks |
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| 22:44.03 | ksx4system | Matt__: so, kernel support for elantech is not enough? ok, i'll install it |
| 22:44.51 | Matt__ | I don't know ksx4system, I had the same problem... 60 minutes ago? and I fixed it doing so :P |
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| 22:45.26 | Matt__ | (actually I installed it and I configured my touchpad from the system settings panel) |
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| 22:46.06 | Matt__ | I have this in my fstab: /dev/sda3 /media/data auto rw,noauto,user,sync 0 0, but it's not mounting this partition automatically, should I do anything else? |
| 22:46.26 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 22:46.27 | akio | I keep trying to install Debian onto a single lvm pv with root/swap lvs. Doing this on a hardware raid mirror fails. |
| 22:46.40 | Arrowmaster | you have noauto in the options, ofcourse its not automatically mounting it |
| 22:46.40 | akio | LSI controller on old Sun hardware. |
| 22:47.02 | Matt__ | ohh |
| 22:47.03 | Matt__ | lol |
| 22:47.06 | Matt__ | I'm sorry |
| 22:47.30 | Matt__ | no comments, thank you Arrowmaster haha |
| 22:49.54 | Matt__ | ok, I have other problem. my usb mouse is not working, I connected it but nothing happened, what should I do to know what is going on? |
| 22:50.07 | Matt__ | dmesg doesn't say anything about that |
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| 22:52.15 | Matt__ | never mind, I connected it again and now it's working :) |
| 22:57.43 | Matt__ | ohm, it seems to stop to work after few minutes :| |
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| 23:00.30 | Matt__ | dmesg: |
| 23:00.30 | Matt__ | [ 1518.396055] usb 3-4: device descriptor read/64, error -62 |
| 23:00.31 | Matt__ | [ 1520.396051] usb 3-4: reset low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 15 |
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| 23:01.12 | Matt__ | any idea? |
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| 23:05.20 | lvh | Could anyone help me debug why sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org might give me 18 Apr 23:06:51 ntpdate[22169]: step-systime: Operation not permitted |
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| 23:05.32 | wat | anyone here |
| 23:05.37 | lvh | is it because I'm on a VM? |
| 23:05.40 | lvh | wat: Lots of people |
| 23:05.51 | wat | I compiled php but apache is using an older version of php |
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| 23:06.00 | wat | apache says im running 2.3.6 |
| 23:06.16 | wat | and when I try to use mysql I get |
| 23:06.17 | wat | Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/rsgpt/public_html/config.php on line 6 |
| 23:06.42 | Matt__ | what version did you compile? |
| 23:06.45 | wat | 5.3.6 |
| 23:06.55 | Matt__ | why don't you use PHP5 from your repos? |
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| 23:07.45 | lvh | So an appararent solution is a detached wallclock |
| 23:07.57 | lvh | Is echo 1 > /proc/sys/xen/independent_wallclock a really bad idea? will my system blow up? |
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| 23:08.54 | Soviet`afk | soz |
| 23:08.56 | Soviet`afk | i pinged out |
| 23:08.57 | Matt__ | assuming you already restarted apache and that it's not the problem, you should read what /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load says, wat |
| 23:09.00 | Soviet`afk | Matt__> what version did you compile? |
| 23:09.03 | Soviet`afk | <wat> 5.3.6 |
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| 23:09.18 | Matt__ | <Matt__> why don't you use PHP5 from your repos? |
| 23:09.47 | Matt__ | PHP 5.3.3-7+squeeze1 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Mar 18 2011 20:10:12) |
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| 23:09.54 | wat` | Matt__ repo has old old version |
| 23:10.00 | Matt__ | old old version!? |
| 23:10.02 | Matt__ | are you kidding :P? |
| 23:10.08 | wat` | it has 2.3.6 |
| 23:10.09 | wat` | lol |
| 23:10.09 | Matt__ | 5.3.3 |
| 23:10.12 | Matt__ | no |
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| 23:10.20 | Matt__ | mine has 5.3.3 |
| 23:10.25 | wat` | mine doesnt |
| 23:10.29 | wat` | im on lenny |
| 23:10.40 | Matt__ | I can't believe it has 2.3.6 |
| 23:10.46 | Matt__ | in the worse case, 4 |
| 23:10.51 | Matt__ | and still hard to believe |
| 23:10.51 | Oday | i downloaded JDeveloper, and it's installed and everything..but it didn't fall under Applications, not in Programming or in System Tools or anything..where would it be? |
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| 23:10.58 | wat` | whats the command to search |
| 23:10.58 | wat` | i forgot |
| 23:11.11 | Matt__ | show me your /etc/apt/source.list |
| 23:11.21 | Matt__ | $ php -v |
| 23:11.30 | MeglaW | apt-cache search |
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| 23:12.07 | wat` | hub2:~# php -v |
| 23:12.07 | wat` | PHP 5.3.6 (cli) (built: Apr 18 2011 11:08:42) |
| 23:12.11 | winstonsmith_ | ptripath I've heard about this happening just recently, but only in passing. The gist I picked up then was that it was within the app itself, but could be amended with some tuning. |
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| 23:13.00 | wat` | wtf |
| 23:13.10 | wat` | /etc/apt/source.list is empty |
| 23:13.10 | Matt__ | wat`, what does $ aptitude show php5 says ? |
| 23:13.11 | wat` | impossible |
| 23:13.21 | Matt__ | sources* |
| 23:13.22 | Matt__ | :P |
| 23:13.29 | wat` | lol |
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| 23:13.38 | wat` | hub2:~# aptitude show php5 |
| 23:13.38 | wat` | -bash: aptitude: command not found |
| 23:13.45 | Oday | impossible! |
| 23:13.45 | Oday | :P |
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| 23:14.01 | wat` | sources list is |
| 23:14.02 | wat` | deb http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib |
| 23:14.02 | wat` | deb-src http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib |
| 23:14.03 | wat` | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 23:14.03 | wat` | deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
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| 23:15.07 | Matt__ | don't you have aptitude? |
| 23:15.13 | wat` | aparently not |
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| 23:15.40 | Matt__ | it's the first time I hear about a Debian installation without aptitude :P |
| 23:16.03 | ranix | just use apt |
| 23:16.18 | ranix | if you need aptitude apt-get install aptitude |
| 23:16.30 | wat` | -bash: apt-show: command not found |
| 23:16.31 | wat` | D: |
| 23:16.35 | ranix | I recall aptitude being good for something I couldn't easily do with apt, once upon a time |
| 23:16.36 | Matt__ | # apt-cache showpkg php5 |
| 23:16.49 | simonlnu | !tell wat` -about paste |
| 23:17.02 | wat` | Matt__ |
| 23:17.07 | wat` | a shit load pops up |
| 23:17.07 | casts | ranix: what is apt, and why isn't aptitude it if apt-get is? |
| 23:17.47 | Matt__ | try: apt-cache showpkg php5 |
| 23:18.08 | wat` | ill just paste this part |
| 23:18.08 | wat` | 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny10 - |
| 23:18.09 | wat` | 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9 - |
| 23:18.12 | ranix | I suppose aptitude is part of apt these days, but it's a newer part. I don't consider it such. The traditional apt tools are apt-get apt-cache and apt-file |
| 23:18.22 | Matt__ | then you have php5 in your repos |
| 23:18.26 | Matt__ | 5.2.6 |
| 23:18.30 | wat` | oh yeah |
| 23:18.36 | wat` | thats what it was 5.2.6 |
| 23:18.39 | wat` | but thats too old |
| 23:18.43 | Matt__ | ? |
| 23:18.44 | wat` | i want st least 5.3 |
| 23:18.50 | Matt__ | ... |
| 23:18.52 | Matt__ | old? |
| 23:18.53 | Matt__ | lol |
| 23:18.57 | Matt__ | old is 2.x |
| 23:19.02 | wat` | 5.3.6 is latest version |
| 23:19.04 | casts | ranix: doublethink! ;P |
| 23:19.04 | wat` | anyway |
| 23:19.13 | wat` | how do I get apache to use the php i installed |
| 23:19.26 | ranix | casts: we've always been at war with ubuntu |
| 23:19.43 | dtcrshr | raises his broad axe |
| 23:19.46 | syslq | ranix: why? |
| 23:19.49 | Matt__ | <Matt__> assuming you already restarted apache and that it's not the problem, you should read what /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load says, wat |
| 23:20.01 | syslq | ranix: without debian there is no ubuntu :), why wage war on your child |
| 23:20.11 | ranix | syslq: wordreplacement of eastasia to fit the theme |
| 23:20.13 | wat` | Matt__ LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so |
| 23:20.32 | Matt__ | did you restart apache? |
| 23:20.37 | wat` | many times |
| 23:20.39 | casts | disk rations have been increased from 10 to 8GB |
| 23:20.42 | syslq | ranix: eastasia :)? |
| 23:20.42 | Matt__ | ok, just to know |
| 23:20.46 | dtcrshr | ubuntu should be called something like UND |
| 23:20.47 | JoshH | why would anyone feel a need to be at war with a linux distro? i'd say you need to get laid |
| 23:21.00 | wat` | lolol JoshH |
| 23:21.10 | dtcrshr | or need a joint |
| 23:21.13 | Matt__ | what is laid? |
| 23:21.13 | ranix | syslq: google we've always been at war with eastasia |
| 23:21.16 | JoshH | or both |
| 23:21.21 | dtcrshr | in sequence |
| 23:21.22 | syslq | ranix: ah, 1984 |
| 23:21.34 | wat` | Matt__ it means get fucked... |
| 23:21.36 | syslq | ranix: it's late sorry, my brain in hibernating already |
| 23:21.45 | Matt__ | ok, anyway.. I don't think it's a good idea to compile it by yourself when you can install it from your repos |
| 23:21.57 | wat` | well I don't want 5.2 |
| 23:22.02 | Matt__ | maybe a better idea if you are using Lenny is to add testing repost and install it from there |
| 23:22.10 | casts | given 1984 is a roadmap for the future, more people need to read it! |
| 23:22.22 | Matt__ | some_bot_command pinging |
| 23:22.42 | wat` | Matt__ since I already got it installed how can i fix my issue |
| 23:23.01 | syslq | casts: juh |
| 23:23.10 | wat` | because my other server is set up the same way |
| 23:23.19 | wat` | and aparently it has the same issue |
| 23:23.20 | syslq | casts: I started reading in english with this book, translation sucked :) |
| 23:23.21 | Matt__ | ask a bot here to tell you about to add many repositories (of different distros) at the same time |
| 23:23.28 | Matt__ | I don't know how they work :P |
| 23:24.00 | Matt__ | then you will be able to do something like $ aptitude install -t testing php5 |
| 23:24.04 | Matt__ | and that's all you have to do |
| 23:24.04 | wat` | Matt__ hold that though brb |
| 23:24.08 | wat` | thought* |
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| 23:24.58 | Matt__ | my mouse is still crashing :) |
| 23:25.08 | Matt__ | [ 3014.356057] usb 3-4: reset low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 15 |
| 23:25.12 | Matt__ | what does it mean? |
| 23:26.26 | Matt__ | wat`, here it is: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 23:27.05 | Matt__ | then # apt-get -t testing install php5, and you will have 5.3.3 |
| 23:27.34 | Arrowmaster | wat`: where did the php5 you compiled install to? |
| 23:28.02 | casts | Matt__: do we maintain binary compatibility between releases? |
| 23:28.14 | Arrowmaster | casts: no |
| 23:28.24 | Arrowmaster | releases should not be mixed |
| 23:28.35 | Matt__ | casosac1, why did you ask me that? |
| 23:29.04 | Matt__ | it's related with my mouse issue :P ? |
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| 23:29.55 | casts | Matt__: because you were assuming we do |
| 23:30.11 | Matt__ | oh, do I? |
| 23:30.13 | Matt__ | when? |
| 23:30.35 | Arrowmaster | when you are telling somebody to add testing repos and install a binary package from testing on lenny |
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| 23:30.49 | Matt__ | shouldn't it work? |
| 23:30.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:31.08 | Matt__ | I think sometime ago I read a guide to do so somewhere |
| 23:31.20 | Arrowmaster | you read a bad guide written by an idiot |
| 23:31.30 | ranix | one would backport a package |
| 23:31.35 | ranix | msg the bot about backports |
| 23:31.44 | casts | it's much nicer to compiler it yourself |
| 23:31.49 | casts | compile* |
| 23:32.09 | casts | installing into /usr/local/[stow/] |
| 23:32.14 | Matt__ | oh, by the way, I can remember a repo called php53 or similar, let me try to find it again |
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| 23:32.36 | Matt__ | yep, here it is: http://www.dotdeb.org/instructions/ |
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| 23:32.57 | cnu | is it possible to install only some recommended packages? --no-install-recommends seems to take em all away |
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| 23:33.08 | Matt__ | that's maybe the best thing you can do wat`, if I'm not wrong, of course |
| 23:33.26 | Arrowmaster | Matt__: dotdeb is also bad |
| 23:33.34 | Matt__ | why do you think so? |
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| 23:33.44 | Arrowmaster | because it has a history of issues |
| 23:33.44 | ranix | one should understand the implications of installing packages from a third party repository |
| 23:34.02 | Matt__ | well, I don't know their history |
| 23:34.41 | Matt__ | by the way, why would you use apt pinning if there's no compatibility? |
| 23:35.26 | Arrowmaster | its for when using multiple repos ment for the same release |
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| 23:35.58 | Arrowmaster | or using a testing/unstable mix, which is the only mix that isnt considered crazy |
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| 23:55.59 | jhutchins_lt | Arrowmaster: Well, it's considered crazy, but as long as you're in the water... |
| 23:56.53 | jhutchins_lt | Wow, reading the scrollback, No, wheezy + lenny == BAD IDEA. |
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| 23:57.51 | Matt__ | no, the idea was Lenny + PHP5 (from Wheezy) |
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