| 00:00.03 | ksx4system | i can't see any sound icon in xfce too but set up volumes high in alsamixer |
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| 00:08.17 | Craigwd_2000 | Does Wheezy's current AMD64 2.6.38 Kernel have Intel HDA Audio drivers built-in...? My PC laptop shipped with a IDT STAC-9205 HD Sound Card/Intel HDA Audio sound card built-in... |
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| 00:11.23 | abrotman | depends which device |
| 00:11.34 | abrotman | specifically .. many hda cards |
| 00:12.07 | abrotman | Craigwd_2000: i have one that's supported great in squeeze's .32 |
| 00:14.27 | Craigwd_2000 | Well: I've tried various other distros running 2.6.32-2.6.38 Kernels & my sound card has only worked right under w |
| 00:14.44 | Craigwd_2000 | WinXP...: if at all... |
| 00:14.55 | ksx4system | yay! got my sound working. "options snd-hda-intel model=auto position_fix=0" in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf |
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| 00:15.42 | Craigwd_2000 | That & Vista & 7 x64... |
| 00:15.52 | wat` | where is matt |
| 00:16.16 | wat` | i scroll up and he said apt-get -t testing install php5 |
| 00:16.19 | wat` | leme try it |
| 00:16.43 | wat` | OMG |
| 00:16.44 | wat` | Unpacking php5 (from .../php5_5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny10_all.deb) ... |
| 00:16.44 | wat` | Setting up php5 (5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny10) ... |
| 00:16.47 | wat` | FUCK |
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| 00:17.17 | Arrowmaster | wat`: and then he was told that was a bad idea |
| 00:17.22 | ranix | wat please chill out |
| 00:17.28 | wat` | ;-; |
| 00:17.30 | wat` | what do |
| 00:17.38 | wat` | i r nub at linux |
| 00:17.41 | ranix | backport the packages you need |
| 00:17.48 | wat` | what is that ;-; |
| 00:17.52 | Arrowmaster | i asked you earlier where the php5 you compiled yourself was installed to |
| 00:18.10 | wat` | idk |
| 00:18.16 | wat` | i just compiled i |
| 00:18.17 | wat` | it |
| 00:18.37 | Tiffy | Installing stuff directly from source isn't smart. |
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| 00:18.43 | ranix | this is like knowing how to avert the train derailing, but it's moving too fast and there's just too much mass to stop it |
| 00:18.51 | ranix | Tiffy: that's not necessarily true |
| 00:18.58 | Arrowmaster | especially if you dont know what its doing and where its installing stuff |
| 00:19.05 | ranix | installing stuff from source without understanding is not smart |
| 00:19.06 | wat` | Tiffy/Arrowmaster |
| 00:19.16 | wat` | the php version i have installed is what i want |
| 00:19.18 | wat` | in ssg |
| 00:19.19 | wat` | ssh* |
| 00:19.25 | wat` | but how do i get apache to use it |
| 00:19.28 | Tiffy | There's little reason to install stuff from source these days. Building a deb from source, where possible, is the preferred option. |
| 00:19.29 | wat` | thats ALL i need |
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| 00:19.55 | Arrowmaster | wat`: which php5 or which php whatever the hell the cli binary is |
| 00:20.01 | karlpinc | And if you can't build a deb from source use stow. |
| 00:20.03 | Tiffy | Even a checkinstall is better than raw source installation. |
| 00:20.11 | wat` | uhhhh |
| 00:20.27 | Arrowmaster | wat`: that was a command `which php` |
| 00:20.37 | Arrowmaster | run that and tell us the output |
| 00:20.39 | wat` | http://us2.php.net/get/php-5.3.6.tar.gz/from/a/mirror |
| 00:20.40 | wat` | this |
| 00:20.53 | wat` | k sec |
| 00:21.16 | wat` | hub2:~# which php |
| 00:21.16 | wat` | /usr/local/bin/php |
| 00:21.29 | Craigwd_2000 | Karlpinc: What's stow? Would that allow me to build a .deb for WINE 1.2.3 when all of apt-get sources point to outdated versions of WINE...? |
| 00:22.11 | Craigwd_2000 | of the apt-get* |
| 00:22.54 | Arrowmaster | wat`: so libphp5.so is probably not in the location where apache2 is looking, thats what you need to fix |
| 00:22.55 | Tiffy | Craigwd_2000: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=228570 |
| 00:22.58 | Tiffy | Might be of use to you. |
| 00:23.02 | nsadmin | Tiffy, in that it's more work after the fact, I'd say so |
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| 00:23.18 | wat` | ok how do i fix it |
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| 00:23.41 | wat` | nano /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load |
| 00:23.43 | wat` | in there? |
| 00:24.08 | nsadmin | Tiffy, tho if this is the same issue, it came from (at most recent) yesterday |
| 00:24.18 | Arrowmaster | im guessing you just need to change the /usr/lib to /usr/local/lib |
| 00:24.46 | nsadmin | do you have related stuff in /usr/local/lib? (I'm guessing yes) |
| 00:24.47 | Tiffy | wat`: In short you've screwed up and are now battling with something purely because you didn't do the ground-work and research before taking action. |
| 00:25.04 | wat` | Tiffy I'm noob at linux |
| 00:25.33 | nsadmin | and as long as you invoke that excuse you teach your brain you'll never be other than a noob |
| 00:25.49 | wat` | Arrowmaster |
| 00:25.50 | wat` | bphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 00:25.50 | wat` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:26.14 | Arrowmaster | maybe you didnt even compile the lib for apache |
| 00:26.31 | wat` | k how do i do that |
| 00:26.36 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 00:26.39 | Arrowmaster | i dont touch php |
| 00:26.40 | wat` | ;-; |
| 00:26.52 | wat` | everyone needs to know php. |
| 00:26.53 | amphi | wat`: did you run ldconfig as root? |
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| 00:27.10 | wat` | ldconfig? |
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| 00:28.01 | nsadmin | I must be an exceotion to that rule... I have a coupla good webby sites that have never needed php |
| 00:28.19 | ranix | nsadmin uses .asp for everything |
| 00:28.33 | wat` | >Microsoft |
| 00:28.40 | wat` | >paying to use a language |
| 00:28.46 | nsadmin | they use tcl which is far more stable in two important ways: 1, doesn't crash and 2, upgrades to tcl doesn't break old code |
| 00:28.51 | ranix | take that crap somewhere else wat` |
| 00:28.54 | ranix | this is not 4chan |
| 00:28.57 | wat` | ? |
| 00:29.15 | wat` | i never go on 4chat |
| 00:29.17 | wat` | chan* |
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| 00:29.34 | nsadmin | 4chant? |
| 00:30.08 | wat` | 4chan is an imageboard full of trolls |
| 00:31.19 | wat` | anyone got any ideas? :( |
| 00:31.43 | Arrowmaster | upgrade to squeeze and use 5.3.3 |
| 00:31.59 | wat` | how do i do that |
| 00:32.12 | nsadmin | alter your php code so it uses the php you already have |
| 00:32.19 | Arrowmaster | dpkg: tell wat` about lenny->squeeze |
| 00:33.16 | ksx4system | does it work for squeeze (current stable)? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/ElantechTouchpad |
| 00:33.30 | ksx4system | and what to do if there's no xorg.conf on my Debian instance? |
| 00:34.01 | nsadmin | that's normal |
| 00:34.17 | nsadmin | then everything's autodetected |
| 00:35.34 | ksx4system | thanks. I only need tap-to-click to work, then it will be just everything which works perfectly under Debian |
| 00:35.50 | abrotman | just wrote an xorg.conf |
| 00:36.17 | Hydroxide | abrotman: my condolences ;-) |
| 00:36.37 | dvs | Was it a best-seller? |
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| 00:37.38 | abrotman | Hydroxide: to get a netbook touchpad working .. it wasn't that bad really .. |
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| 00:38.03 | abrotman | be easier if netbooks would just have the trackpoint .. but apparently the licensing is expensive |
| 00:38.37 | ranix | ah does lenovo own it? |
| 00:38.42 | ranix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.05 | abrotman | i think it's an IBM thing .. and you have to license it .. otherwise, why wouldn't the netbook people have it, makes way more sense in a small form factor |
| 00:39.18 | ranix | they should bring back the butterfly keyboard |
| 00:40.03 | Hydroxide | abrotman: s/IBM/lenovo/ now... they're probably getting near the end of the term where they have any kind of co-branding agreement with IBM, and they stopped using the IBM logo a long time ago |
| 00:40.33 | abrotman | yeah .. i know .. it was probably part of the agreement when they bought the laptop side of things |
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| 00:41.42 | alex-johnson | I recently installed Debian 6.0.1 amd64 with a nVidia Quadro FX 560 and I installed the nVidia non-free drivers (using the Debian Way from here: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers) and the 3D performance (tried playing Urban Terror) is just terrible (I previously had Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit on the computer and the 3D was fine), what could be the reason? |
| 00:41.44 | Arrowmaster | wonder when the patents on that expire |
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| 00:42.15 | Arrowmaster | alex-johnson: did you insteall the nvidia-glx-ia32 package? |
| 00:42.34 | alex-johnson | no, why do i need it? |
| 00:43.05 | alex-johnson | i ran "glxinfo | grep rendering" and it shows that 3d acceleration is active |
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| 00:43.07 | wat` | whats keymap |
| 00:43.13 | wat` | its asking me if i want to change |
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| 00:43.44 | wat` | ??? |
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| 00:44.13 | wat` | lol 1,017 ppl talk less then my channel which has ~30 |
| 00:44.25 | ham5 | slaps wat` around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:44.25 | Zyf_Lappy | slaps ham5 around a bit with wat` |
| 00:44.26 | Zyf_Lappy | You don't like this script, don't use the generic troutslaps! Simple as that! |
| 00:44.29 | ham5 | hey Zyf_Lappy A fool and his honey are soon parted. |
| 00:44.44 | wat` | bpts. |
| 00:44.45 | wat` | bots. |
| 00:44.49 | ksx4system | WTF? when I only try to make my own xorg.conf X just does not work... where's the default file? i'll need to edit it |
| 00:44.56 | wat` | <wat`> whats keymap |
| 00:44.57 | wat` | <wat`> its asking me if i want to change |
| 00:45.01 | ham5 | lol |
| 00:45.03 | abrotman | slaps simonlnu with a large trout |
| 00:45.25 | abrotman | slaps simonlnu around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:45.25 | Zyf_Lappy | slaps abrotman around a bit with simonlnu |
| 00:45.25 | wat` | ...I can't sit here with putty open forever |
| 00:45.25 | Zyf_Lappy | You don't like this script, don't use the generic troutslaps! Simple as that! |
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| 00:45.39 | abrotman | Zyf_Lappy: msg me when you've fixed your script |
| 00:45.45 | wat` | <wat`> whats keymap |
| 00:45.46 | wat` | <wat`> its asking me if i want to change |
| 00:45.52 | abrotman | wat`: stop repeating |
| 00:45.57 | ham5 | aww abrotman |
| 00:46.03 | wat` | why doesnt any answer |
| 00:46.19 | wat` | if you saw it you can answer it |
| 00:46.22 | wat` | fs. |
| 00:46.24 | wat` | ffs. |
| 00:46.29 | abrotman | STOP HITTING ENTER |
| 00:46.33 | ham5 | lol |
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| 00:46.44 | wat` | well? |
| 00:46.48 | wat` | what is keymap. |
| 00:46.54 | wat` | : | |
| 00:47.19 | ns_debian | My Gosh you guys make me laugh with your stupidity. Seems like an episode of Seinfeld |
| 00:47.31 | wat` | this is why I dislike #debian |
| 00:47.32 | wat` | well |
| 00:47.39 | wat` | I dislike freenode alltogether |
| 00:48.11 | ns_debian | Keymap sounds like mapping of your keyboard keys |
| 00:48.14 | abrotman | because you can't communicate effectively? |
| 00:48.21 | dondelelcaro | wat`: the keymap is the mapping of the scancodes to actual keycodes. That's all it is. |
| 00:48.29 | dondelelcaro | wat`: pick the keymap which matches your keyboard |
| 00:48.33 | wat` | so I should keep it the way it is? |
| 00:48.41 | dondelelcaro | wat`: unless you know better, yes. |
| 00:48.51 | wat` | i have a qwerty keyboard |
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| 00:49.07 | dondelelcaro | wat`: if it's working, don't mess with it, then. |
| 00:49.22 | wat` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.22 | wat` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.22 | wat` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.22 | wat` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.22 | wat` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:49.25 | alex-johnson | Arrowmaster: I installed the nvidia-glx-ia32 package and it works fine now, thanks |
| 00:49.27 | wat` | oh god |
| 00:49.29 | wat` | what is this!! |
| 00:49.33 | dondelelcaro | wat`: do not paste here. |
| 00:49.50 | karlpinc | !tell wat` about paste |
| 00:50.04 | wat` | someone already did that karlpinc |
| 00:50.16 | karlpinc | wat`: And you pasted anyway? What happened? |
| 00:50.17 | wat` | I'm not opening firefox to make a pastebin of 3-4 lines |
| 00:50.32 | dondelelcaro | wat`: if you don't want to do that, then don't paste it at all. |
| 00:50.36 | karlpinc | wat`: You didn't read the factoid then. Use pastebinit. |
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| 00:50.49 | wat` | <.< |
| 00:51.12 | DammitJim | +1 dondelelcaro |
| 00:52.00 | wat` | -1 everyone |
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| 00:52.08 | tani_tani_pra | http://www.everydaysnews.com/2011/04/kim-kardashian-sex-tape/. |
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| 00:52.12 | tommyfeticini | hey everyone, ubuntu user gone debian here |
| 00:52.29 | tommyfeticini | I'm trying to mount an iso, but it doesn't seem to go as smoothly as Ubuntu |
| 00:52.40 | wat` | use windows. |
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| 00:52.45 | abrotman | tommyfeticini: from inside gnome or using the CLI ? |
| 00:52.51 | tommyfeticini | CLI |
| 00:52.55 | DammitJim | Karlpinc, sorry to be an ass, but don't pm me |
| 00:52.59 | karlpinc | tommyfeticini: Jolly good. You can get help here, if you tell us what you did and what you expected and what happened instead. Exactly. |
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| 00:53.14 | DammitJim | Lol |
| 00:53.20 | tommyfeticini | It's demanding a fileysystem so I added the -t iso6990 |
| 00:53.30 | tommyfeticini | I know I'm using correct syntax, it works in Ubuntu |
| 00:53.33 | dondelelcaro | tommyfeticini: mkdir bar; mount -o loop foo.iso bar;. Presumably you mean iso9660. |
| 00:53.50 | tommyfeticini | sudo mount -o loop <iso> <dest_dir> |
| 00:53.58 | tommyfeticini | then i added the -t option |
| 00:53.59 | tommyfeticini | still fails |
| 00:54.05 | abrotman | with what error ? |
| 00:54.09 | tommyfeticini | I'm assuming that debian comes with the capability |
| 00:54.10 | dondelelcaro | tommyfeticini: are you sure it's an iso9660 fileystem? what's the error mesage? |
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| 00:54.55 | karlpinc | DammitJim: ? (You can explain on #debian-offtopic if you like.) |
| 00:54.57 | tommyfeticini | no I'm not sure. |
| 00:55.38 | karlpinc | tommyfeticini: You'll have to give us the info we ask for to get help. (FYI, "file foo.iso" will tell you whether it's an iso, I think.) |
| 00:55.48 | abrotman | tommyfeticini: what does 'file' say |
| 00:55.51 | abrotman | is slow :) |
| 00:55.53 | tommyfeticini | I'm trying I'm trying |
| 00:55.57 | tommyfeticini | haha |
| 00:56.11 | tommyfeticini | unknown filesystem iso6990 |
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| 00:56.21 | dondelelcaro | tommyfeticini: it's iso9660. not iso6990. |
| 00:56.59 | tommyfeticini | wrong fs type |
| 00:57.08 | DammitJim | Dude, get your mind outta the gutter! |
| 00:57.34 | tommyfeticini | That's the error i get for iso9660 |
| 00:57.48 | abrotman | tommyfeticini: what does file say about the file? |
| 00:57.53 | abrotman | the file command say about the file |
| 00:58.14 | tommyfeticini | ASCII English text |
| 00:58.23 | abrotman | then it's not an ISO .. |
| 00:58.34 | abrotman | tommyfeticini: what is the filename of the image? |
| 00:58.50 | tommyfeticini | backtrack.iso |
| 00:59.07 | tommyfeticini | I swear I downloaded it right and mounted it before in Ubuntu |
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| 00:59.28 | tommyfeticini | I'll retry downading the iso |
| 00:59.35 | abrotman | if i use the file command on a Debian ISO, it returns that it's an iso9660 |
| 00:59.41 | abrotman | tommyfeticini: what is the URL? |
| 01:00.33 | tommyfeticini | I downloaded it ages ago, it's in my archive of iso's |
| 01:00.40 | tommyfeticini | I couldn't give you where I got it from |
| 01:00.58 | abrotman | it's okay .. i'm getting the 4r2 from their site |
| 01:01.05 | ksx4system | i'll ask one more time because of no reply: if i have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf - where's default xorg.conf to edit? when i'm trying to make it this way http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg it just prints some useless things and... exits. |
| 01:01.21 | abrotman | ksx4system: you don't have one to edit .. you create it |
| 01:01.35 | abrotman | ksx4system: what about the file are you trying to change? |
| 01:01.45 | abrotman | erm .. what about the file are you trying to change? |
| 01:01.58 | abrotman | oh .. i didn't type that the first time .. /me must really need to sleep |
| 01:02.40 | ksx4system | abrotman: unfortunately there is NO /etc/X11/xorg.conf so I just can't make tap-to-click (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/ElantechTouchpad) work for me |
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| 01:02.51 | tommyfeticini | thanks for the help |
| 01:02.54 | abrotman | ksx4system: i said, you create the file .. |
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| 01:03.57 | abrotman | ksx4system: you can also use 'Xorg -config' to create a file |
| 01:03.59 | karlpinc | ksx4system: IIRC "X --configure" will make you a basic one. |
| 01:04.26 | ksx4system | great but X doesn't even start on created file |
| 01:04.52 | karlpinc | ksx4system: Whoops. It seems to be "xorg -configure". |
| 01:05.04 | zleslie | Hello, I am having trouble getting sound to work on my intel mac mini. All the signs point to adding these two lines to my /etc/modprobe/alsa-base.conf file: alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel \n options snd-hda-intel model=macmini3. Once I alsa force-reload, I still hear no sound. I have checked mixer levels, rebooted, verified user group membership etc |
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| 01:05.15 | zleslie | Anyone have any ideas to help get me going in the right direction? |
| 01:05.25 | karlpinc | ksx4system: You need to paste the X.log in /var/log/ so we can see what the problem is. Or that'd be a start. |
| 01:06.08 | karlpinc | ksx4system: You could also do "lspci -nn" and give us the pciid of your video card. It looks like "[xxxx:yyyy]". |
| 01:06.11 | ksx4system | karlpinc: erm... xorg -configure = command not found |
| 01:06.46 | karlpinc | ksx4system: You probably need to be root. |
| 01:07.31 | dvs | ksx4system: Xorg -configure |
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| 01:07.50 | ksx4system | karlpinc: i am root atm. // pciid = 8086:a012 (integrated graphics of Intel NM10 chipset) |
| 01:07.51 | karlpinc | *drat*. Got it wrong twice in a row. |
| 01:08.10 | karlpinc | ,pciid [8086:a012] |
| 01:08.11 | judd | [8086:a012] is 'N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with no known kernel module in squeeze but has kernel module 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:a012 |
| 01:08.39 | karlpinc | ksx4system: Humm. Seems it needs a new kernel. At least (gottago) |
| 01:09.20 | ksx4system | graphics work perfectly! better than in winshit. even online video streams |
| 01:10.50 | zleslie | Is there some low level magic I can do to test connectivity to the sound card? |
| 01:11.09 | dvs | zleslie: speaker-test -c 2 -t wav |
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| 01:13.00 | zleslie | I've got nothing |
| 01:13.08 | zleslie | How else can I troubleshoot this? |
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| 01:14.25 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 01:14.26 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer to unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense if available) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) squeeze: purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 01:14.49 | zleslie | What is jack sense? |
| 01:14.58 | zleslie | and how do I toggle it? |
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| 01:18.32 | balleyne | my mom is travelling, staying at a hotel with a really restrictive firewall. POP ports seem blocked, can't check email, but she can still access our home server via ssh. Is there a way to tunnel outgoing POP3 traffic through the ssh connection to our home server, and out to the mail server from there? |
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| 01:21.37 | winstonsmith_ | Yeah, right. Thanks for your help and, ahh, see ya later. |
| 01:22.45 | zleslie | balleyne: yes. Man ssh, look for -L |
| 01:23.59 | dvs | zleslie: Depends on the sound module I guess |
| 01:25.27 | zleslie | snd_hda_intel in this case, dvs |
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| 01:25.54 | zleslie | all the modules load just fine, and it looks as though the apps work and attempt to play |
| 01:26.10 | zleslie | I am wondering if the jack switch thing is borked, or of its trying to play digital when its really analog |
| 01:26.20 | zleslie | I think the card is capable of both |
| 01:27.31 | balleyne | zleslie: thanks. I've used ssh -L to map a particular local port to a remote port on the server, but I'm trying to say... redirect outgoing POP3 traffic through to my home server, and then out to my mail server from there... not sure how to do that with -L =\ |
| 01:28.00 | zleslie | balleyne: you could create a socks if your client supports it, -D |
| 01:31.00 | balleyne | zleslie: sweeeeet... I think this might work with ssh -D, plus configuring a proxy in Thunderbird... looking into it now. Thanks! |
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| 01:31.58 | zleslie | np |
| 01:32.07 | fredden | balleyne, something like "ssh -L 8041:mail.isp.tld home.boxen.org:pop3" and then aim your pop3 client to 127.0.0.1:8041 |
| 01:32.43 | fredden | s/127.0.0.1/localhost/ |
| 01:32.53 | balleyne | fredden: thanks |
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| 01:33.54 | abrotman | wonders why mail server doesn't have webmail |
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| 01:39.19 | zleslie | Why does apt-cache policy show that I have alsa-base 1.0.23 installed, but cat /proc/asound/version shows 1.0.21? |
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| 01:42.06 | fivre | if I want to generate a list of all packages installed on a system so I can install the same packages on another system, what's the best way to do that? |
| 01:42.23 | dvs | !get-selections |
| 01:42.30 | dvs | dammit |
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| 01:45.50 | dvs | fivre: dpkg --get-selections > select.txt and dpkg--set-selections < select.txt |
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| 01:46.55 | fivre | dvs: thanks |
| 01:47.07 | dvs | np |
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| 01:53.55 | fivre | in other news, what do I do when trying to format a partition causes a kernel panic? |
| 01:54.38 | dvs | fivre: Dont format the partition you're currently using? |
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| 01:57.07 | fivre | wasn't currently using it :| |
| 01:57.22 | fivre | seems like everything I can possibly do to it causes a kernel panic |
| 01:57.27 | fivre | except badblocks |
| 01:57.36 | fivre | which finds nothing, successfully |
| 01:58.31 | dvs | I'd use a live CD to do the format. |
| 01:59.34 | fivre | I am. |
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| 01:59.46 | fivre | It's just in a very bad way |
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| 02:09.03 | jnewt_ | i have two directories, Taxes and taxes when i touch a new file in one, it shows up in the other. however if i du the folders, they are different sizes by 2M , 177M and 179M what is going on here? |
| 02:09.06 | mtx_init | fivre: what are you using to do the format? |
| 02:09.38 | mtx_init | jnewt_: do ls -la in the directory holding those two subdirectories |
| 02:10.18 | jnewt_ | looking for hardlink? |
| 02:10.48 | mtx_init | any links really. So I guess you are saying these are none? |
| 02:10.54 | mtx_init | there* |
| 02:11.29 | jnewt_ | no, no links. both show as directories. i forget what the hardlink output looks like, but i think it has somehting liek ---> in the name or next to it |
| 02:12.46 | jnewt_ | drwxr----- 14 josh root 4096 Apr 9 23:38 Taxes |
| 02:12.51 | abrotman | jnewt_: ls -ld taxes/ Taxes/ |
| 02:13.16 | abrotman | oh, you can't hardlink a dir anyway |
| 02:13.28 | jnewt_ | drwxr----- 14 josh root 4096 Apr 9 23:38 Taxes/ |
| 02:13.28 | jnewt_ | drwxr----- 11 josh root 4096 Apr 18 21:02 taxes/ |
| 02:13.51 | mtx_init | and what about inside? |
| 02:14.46 | fivre | mtx_init: gparted, so whatever the normal ext3 format tool is by extension |
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| 02:16.21 | mtx_init | fivre: did you try restarting the system. It cant hurt |
| 02:16.31 | fivre | yeah |
| 02:16.50 | jnewt_ | mtx_init: well, this is even weirder. I see a file called E-Filing.pdf in both from my windows pc (shared via samba), but when i ls the two directories, only one has that document, and the other hase some diffeent folders, and a Notes.docx file, and no E-Filing.pdf file. |
| 02:17.51 | jnewt_ | Taxes has some older tax year folders i need to keep, they are not in taxes and i can't see them via samba. |
| 02:18.23 | jnewt_ | too odd. |
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| 02:18.53 | mtx_init | fivre: I can only come up with faulty hardware in some case. I would run memtest86 and see if you had memory errors. I would also run a few instances of yes(1) and see if your system tanks. |
| 02:20.39 | mtx_init | jnewt_: I am not sure tbh. I don't have much experience with samba, but it may be that virtual fs which is messing up. You could use stat on each file and see if they are the same inode. |
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| 02:22.30 | jnewt_ | mtx_init: not the same inode, i'm not sure either, but i think its either samba or windows problem after ls the inside of the folders and them showing different files |
| 02:22.55 | jnewt_ | i think i might know an easy way to fix this though |
| 02:23.31 | mtx_init | jnewt_: sometimes I use virtualbox to mount ext3/4 partitions in windows. It's common for there to be errors here and there. But I am to lazy to track down why |
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| 02:24.55 | jnewt_ | ok, mv Taxes taxes2 now shows the different files from the share, and i think all is well. i just need to sync the two folders and delete one now and all should be right in the world |
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| 02:28.59 | mtx_init | Hope you get it |
| 02:29.20 | ksx4system | can i just uninstall openoffice from squeeze and install libreoffice using deb files on libreoffice.org? |
| 02:29.56 | mtx_init | ksx4system: sure, just make sure you keep an eye out for what else is going to be deleted when you remove openoffice |
| 02:30.39 | ksx4system | ok |
| 02:31.07 | mtx_init | then if you see something that you want don't do it |
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| 02:32.33 | un214 | FYI, I have hardlinked a dir |
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| 02:44.41 | abchirk_ | I tried to remove mysql-server-5.1 but there was still the my.cnf, so I deleted it... now after purging and reinstall and dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server there is still no my.cnf |
| 02:44.55 | abchirk_ | How can I deinstall it and reinstall with my.cnf? |
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| 02:46.51 | abrotman | !confmiss |
| 02:46.52 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>. |
| 02:47.08 | abchirk_ | uh thank you, I will try that |
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| 02:50.52 | abchirk_ | mhh abrotman it tries to exec this reconfigure in my /tmp but this is noexec set...? |
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| 02:52.15 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 02:52.46 | abchirk_ | ahh, -o dir::cache=/bla |
| 02:53.27 | abchirk_ | Can't exec "/tmp/mysql-server-5.1.config.120971": Permission denied at /usr/share/perl/5.10/IPC/Open3.pm line 168. |
| 02:53.27 | abchirk_ | open2: exec of /tmp/mysql-server-5.1.config.120971 configure 5.1.49-3 failed at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 59 |
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| 02:56.22 | abchirk_ | but dir::cache doesn't seem to work |
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| 03:02.22 | abchirk_ | abrotman, I did this now. It updated all conf files but no my.cnf? |
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| 03:03.34 | abrotman | abchirk_: wrong packages |
| 03:03.36 | abrotman | package |
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| 03:07.23 | gondez | abchirk: i think you can copy it from sample config |
| 03:07.58 | abchirk_ | gondez, thats what I tried before.... but didn't work.. |
| 03:08.07 | no-name- | hi. i tried to install guest additions onto a debian 6.0 within virtual box but it said it already had an installation of it (it was installed during the os install), but when I click "auto-resize guest display" nothing happens. |
| 03:08.12 | abchirk_ | now with deinstalling mysql-common and reinstall with confmiss tehre is the new my.cnf |
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| 03:09.48 | omnipotentduo | i can't remember where autostart.sh is for xfce4 |
| 03:09.54 | abchirk_ | thx abrotman :) |
| 03:10.08 | abrotman | enjoy |
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| 03:11.40 | omnipotentduo | nevermind haha |
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| 04:13.36 | allu2 | Hello |
| 04:14.29 | allu2 | i managed to shutdown my system somehow so it still think its going to shutdown yresterday at 23:11 :S |
| 04:14.41 | allu2 | preventing me from loggingin as normal user |
| 04:15.25 | desrt | allu2: normally the nologin file gets cleared at bootup |
| 04:15.37 | desrt | i wonder if your filesystem is stuck read-only or something. try single-user? |
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| 04:16.16 | allu2 | desrt: can't i just delete the nologin file and run some check on the file system? ^ |
| 04:16.31 | desrt | assuming the filesystem is read-write then of course you can |
| 04:16.39 | desrt | but it should have happened automatically at bootup.... |
| 04:16.52 | allu2 | well i shutdown quite ugly with the -n option |
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| 04:17.10 | desrt | doesn't matter |
| 04:17.21 | desrt | the bootup should take care of things anyway |
| 04:17.30 | allu2 | and then it got stuck and by powerbutton.. well i try if its read only |
| 04:17.30 | desrt | with an fsck for any filesystem damage and erasing the nologin file after |
| 04:17.54 | vivanov | vim doesnt highlight/color syntax -- how to fix? |
| 04:18.03 | allu2 | well root can write |
| 04:18.09 | desrt | vivanov: apt-get install vim |
| 04:18.20 | desrt | vivanov: chances are you have vim-tiny package |
| 04:18.22 | allu2 | desrt: where the the nologin file is located? |
| 04:18.28 | desrt | allu2: /etc/nologin |
| 04:18.32 | allu2 | thanks :) |
| 04:18.55 | allu2 | works like a charm |
| 04:18.59 | allu2 | :) |
| 04:19.05 | desrt | it's very odd that it didn't get cleared on startup |
| 04:20.03 | desrt | check that /etc/rc2.d/S05rmnologin exists? |
| 04:20.09 | desrt | (and that you are in runlevel 2, indeed) |
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| 04:24.30 | vivanov | desrt: u're rigth - had tiny package thx :) |
| 04:25.07 | desrt | vivanov: no prob |
| 04:25.32 | vivanov | :) |
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| 05:15.56 | vivanov | non-free sources -- is commercial use allowed? |
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| 05:27.13 | dudz_ | vivanov, go read the licences |
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| 05:30.32 | vivanov | dudz_: you mean the package's license? |
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| 05:32.37 | dudz_ | thats a good start, |
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| 05:48.54 | vatzec | Hey! I'm doing a Lenny -> Squeeze update on a box, and everything went smooth, except for a grub/linux-image issue -- what happens is this: there are 3 packages that are not configured: grub, grub-pc and a linux-image-something package. When configuring linux-image-something, it fails when running "zz-update-grub" for that package. Do you have any idea why? |
| 05:49.11 | vatzec | Also, which kernel-related metapackages should I have installed on my machine? |
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| 05:51.33 | no-name- | on my debian install i have colours in gnome-terminal yet no syntax highlighting within vim |
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| 05:51.40 | no-name- | i have recently switched from ubuntu |
| 05:52.12 | nkuttler | !tell vatzec about errors |
| 05:52.33 | nkuttler | no-name-: :help syntax |
| 05:55.36 | no-name- | thanks |
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| 05:55.50 | no-name- | guess that was more of a vim question than a debian question but thanks :) |
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| 05:57.38 | vatzec | nkuttler: Is it OK if the output is in Polish? |
| 05:58.09 | vatzec | Actually, mixed English and Polish |
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| 06:00.35 | vatzec | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/LFA4ufx8 this is it |
| 06:00.47 | vatzec | This happens with every apt-get install thing I run, because it then tries to configure all the stuff. |
| 06:02.31 | nkuttler | !tell vatzec about localized errors |
| 06:03.02 | vatzec | I've always wondered what the "C" locale is (it's the only non-Polish one installed on this box) ;-) |
| 06:03.32 | vatzec | Good to know that. Thanks! |
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| 06:05.34 | alex-hu | Hello. After upgrading to the 2.6.38 in testin, my sound card (via-hda-intel) stopped working. I wonder if this is a known issue, and if there's a workaround? |
| 06:06.02 | vatzec | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/NDX8Y3FV |
| 06:07.27 | alex-hu | *snd-hda-intel* |
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| 06:16.39 | alex-hu | Ok, I just found out that this is a known kernel issue. |
| 06:16.52 | alex-hu | How could I install an older version of kernel on testing? |
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| 06:21.33 | sepski | alex-hu, you might have your previous kernels in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 06:22.04 | sepski | otherways use http://snapshot.debian.org/ |
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| 06:22.18 | Kream | Unless Debian does something freaky, it would not have removed the old kernels, alex-hu |
| 06:22.45 | Kream | It's just to prevent this kind of situation that it doesn't remove old kernels by default |
| 06:23.16 | sepski | well i assumed he removed them himself. otherways he would easily see he could pick another at boot :) |
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| 06:24.00 | vatzec | What's the difference between "Linux xxx image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4" and "Linux xxx for modern PCs"? |
| 06:24.04 | alex-hu | sepski: Thank you |
| 06:24.20 | vatzec | They both are -696 |
| 06:24.25 | vatzec | s/-696/-686/ |
| 06:24.33 | alex-hu | Kream: I usually do apt-get clean quite regularly; fortunately, I didn't this time |
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| 06:25.47 | sepski | vatzec, only the description then... |
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| 06:28.19 | vatzec | sepski: Oh, cool. :-) |
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| 06:34.18 | nkuttler | vatzec: looks like you'll have to debug the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
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| 06:35.43 | vatzec | nkuttler: I've already tried... What I've done since I've posted that is this: "apt-get purge grub", then installed linux-image-686 and linux-image-2.6-686, then "apt-get install grub", and... it worked, but during installation it said that GRUB isn't installed anywhere and if I want to continue without installing it. I had to press Yes, otherwise it would keep on asking. |
| 06:36.14 | nkuttler | vatzec: well just make sure you can boot your box.. |
| 06:36.47 | vatzec | Then, I did `update-grub`. It said: "/usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: line 149: 25216 Unicestwiony ${grub_mkdevicemap}" (Killed). So I did `LANG=C update-grub`, because i wanted to send you the output, and it worked! I don't know why, but it did. Maybe because there was a charset encoding problem when using non-English with that script? Regardless, anytime I run update-grub now, even without LANG=C, it works. |
| 06:37.09 | vatzec | (Sorry to split that into multiple messages; I don't want it to get truncated) |
| 06:37.44 | vatzec | What should I do to configure and install grub onto the MBR? |
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| 06:45.02 | vatzec | Uh. |
| 06:45.03 | vatzec | dustpuppy:~# LANG=C grub-install --recheck /dev/sda |
| 06:45.04 | vatzec | /usr/sbin/grub-install: line 285: 5167 Killed $grub_mkdevicemap --device-map=$device_map $no_floppy |
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| 06:46.15 | vatzec | And grub-mkdevicemap gets killed right away. |
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| 06:47.21 | hogren | hello :) |
| 06:47.37 | vatzec | hey :) |
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| 06:50.46 | erikyyy | hello. am using many debian kvm virtual machines. now trying to install a new one. squeeze installer does not allow me to use an entire partition as a filesystem. it always wants a partition table. is this really neccessary? |
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| 06:51.32 | erikyyy | i use a complete harddisk from a LVM logical volume on the KVM host. so i do not want a partition table. thus i can shutdown the machine, resize the LVM volume, resize the filesystem within and start it again. if i had a partition table things would get more complex. |
| 06:52.32 | erikyyy | if it does not work, i need to install debian, then reconfigure disks manually afterwards :( |
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| 06:53.29 | dondelelcaro | erikyyy: uh... no? you just resize the underlying partition, then tell LVM that it has been resized (assuming you're growing it) |
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| 06:54.07 | dondelelcaro | erikyyy: now that said, you can certainly use an entire device as a filesystem, but the installer doesn't do that because it's very non-standard |
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| 06:54.21 | erikyyy | the kvm host has LVM. there are 3 logical volumes per virtual machine: machine-boot (which has a partition table for grub to work), machine-swap which has no partition table, machine-root which also has no partition table |
| 06:54.58 | erikyyy | i like that setup very much because i can mount these partitions easily, i can resize them easily, everything easy. no clumsy partition tables insive logical volumes... |
| 06:55.36 | dondelelcaro | so have it use the device as an lvm, assuming that's what you want. |
| 06:55.43 | dondelelcaro | the installer is perfectly capable of doing that |
| 06:55.57 | erikyyy | no. the virtual machine has no lvm. it has three harddisks. |
| 06:56.25 | erikyyy | first harddisk for /boot and grub, second harddisk for swap, third harddisk for /. all are done by virtio |
| 06:56.38 | dondelelcaro | the installer can handle that too, using manual partitioning. |
| 06:56.51 | dondelelcaro | just have it use the proper device as / |
| 06:56.51 | erikyyy | no. the installer wants a partition table on every harddisk |
| 06:56.55 | dondelelcaro | nope |
| 06:57.02 | sepski | erikyyy, alt+f2 and mount it up manually ? |
| 06:57.14 | erikyyy | sepski: is there docs about that? |
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| 06:59.17 | erikyyy | dondelelcaro, you see the point about all that is that from the host point of view, all logical volues are simple filesystems. there is no logical volume that has a clumsy additional partition table inside. that makes life much easier. only exceptions are the boot-LVMs |
| 07:00.11 | sepski | erikyyy, you are running in expert mode right ? |
| 07:00.21 | dondelelcaro | erikyyy: yes... I've had machines installed with that very configuration... |
| 07:00.24 | sepski | since i did think what you do shuold be somewhat possible in installer |
| 07:00.35 | erikyyy | no. ah there is expert mode :) stupid me. hang on please |
| 07:01.11 | dondelelcaro | erikyyy: you should be able to select the device, and tell the installer to use it as a partition to be mounted. if it won't, you can do it by mounting it yourself on /target. the various virtual install tools do this for you anyway |
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| 07:06.21 | erikyyy_ | hm i don't quite understand yet. even in expert mode the system forces me to partition the harddisks. |
| 07:06.28 | greenlantern | cat /etc/debian_version displays, wheeze/sid , |
| 07:06.57 | greenlantern | but i set in /etc/apt/sources.list , deb http://......... sid main contrib non-free , |
| 07:07.01 | dondelelcaro | erikyyy: it asks you whether to partition them, but you should be able to continue on without them. |
| 07:07.03 | greenlantern | cat /etc/debian_version displays, wheeze/sid , why ? |
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| 07:07.19 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: because that's what the wheezy/sid version of base-files contains |
| 07:07.19 | kesor | hheh |
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| 07:07.56 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: but i set it to "sid" not "wheeze" |
| 07:08.25 | jelly-home | dondelelcaro: I didn't manage to d-i a setup with PV-on-whole-disk using the wizards either, but I didn't try too hard |
| 07:08.44 | dondelelcaro | jelly-home: it's possible that it's not easily supported... but it's certainly possible to do it manually |
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| 07:08.55 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: and , in another debian installation i set it to "testing" but cat /etc/debian_version displays same result , why? |
| 07:08.58 | jelly-home | everything is possible manually! |
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| 07:09.26 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: because base-files is the file that contains /etc/debian_version, and it will say wheezy/sid until wheezy is close to being released. |
| 07:09.48 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: you can't tell the difference between sid and testing by looking at that file. apt-cache policy; is what will clue you in to some degree |
| 07:10.01 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: what are you actually trying to do? |
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| 07:10.25 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: so how can i be sure that this system is sid ? |
| 07:10.40 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: apt-cache policy; and look at the output. |
| 07:11.47 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: apt-get policy gets the result from the settings of sources.list |
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| 07:12.04 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: so it's wheeze/sid = sid now ? |
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| 07:12.54 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: apt-get policy says, a=unstable, n=sid, what are "a" and "n" ? |
| 07:13.09 | greenlantern | l=debian |
| 07:15.09 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: ? |
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| 07:16.15 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: that's the suite and codename |
| 07:16.18 | ws2k3 | hello guys i'm trying a simple port forwarding in debian. i wanne forward port 9987 this is the code i'm using http://paste.debian.net/114435/ |
| 07:16.24 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: check out the release file if you really want to know |
| 07:16.27 | freyr | hi ! |
| 07:16.47 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: how to check release file ? |
| 07:17.01 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: they're in /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Release |
| 07:17.15 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: but what are you actually trying to do? |
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| 07:17.47 | freyr | i have a problem with a software raid1 on a freshly installed squeeze. one of the raid partitions (md6) is having this: resync=PENDING. |
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| 07:18.03 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: your machine appears to have unstable sources, so assuming you're up-to-date, you're running unstable. |
| 07:18.15 | freyr | my question is how can i solve this problem ? |
| 07:18.36 | dondelelcaro | freyr: show us the output of /proc/mdstat |
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| 07:19.29 | greenlantern | is there any mirror for http://................ sid-updates main contrib non-free ? |
| 07:19.32 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: ? |
| 07:19.41 | greenlantern | is there any updates for sid ? |
| 07:19.42 | ws2k3 | hello guys i'm trying a simple port forwarding in debian. i wanne forward port 9987 this is the code i'm using http://paste.debian.net/114435/ and this is what i get at iptables -L http://paste.debian.net/114438/ |
| 07:19.43 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: there's no such thing as sid-updates |
| 07:20.02 | greenlantern | is there any mirror for http://................ sid/updates main contrib non-free ? |
| 07:20.07 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: ^ |
| 07:20.12 | simonlnu | no |
| 07:20.25 | greenlantern | any updates for sid ? dondelelcaro |
| 07:20.31 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: sid is always being updated. Updates go directly to it twice daily |
| 07:20.35 | jelly-home | greenlantern: there are no updates for sid, because sid IS updates all the time |
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| 07:21.37 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: is "sid = wheeze/sid" now ? |
| 07:22.11 | greenlantern | currently is sid= wheezy/sid now? |
| 07:22.45 | greenlantern | in every console i get "Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid tty1 .. |
| 07:22.57 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: jelly-home simonlnu ^ ? |
| 07:23.16 | jelly-home | greenlantern: what seems to be the problem? |
| 07:23.17 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: no. |
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| 07:23.43 | greenlantern | jelly-home: why is "wheezy" there ? |
| 07:23.50 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: because wheezy is the name of testing |
| 07:24.14 | greenlantern | dondelelcaro: why testing ? i installed/upgraded to sid |
| 07:24.20 | dondelelcaro | greenlantern: and that file can't differentiate between testing and unstable, even though they are different. It's not important, and it's a technical detail |
| 07:24.27 | simonlnu | greenlantern: you've already been told that |
| 07:24.30 | greenlantern | in sources.list it's all "sid" there |
| 07:24.47 | freyr | dondelelcaro: here is teh output: md6 : active (auto-read-only) raid1 sda9[0] sdb9[1] |
| 07:24.48 | freyr | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.48 | freyr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:24.57 | simonlnu | pause a moment, and think about what you've been told. it'll help. |
| 07:25.07 | jelly-home | greenlantern: the same version of base-files package may be used in current testing, or in unstable. Since testing does not get its own uploads, the package denotes both current-testing and sid |
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| 07:25.21 | dondelelcaro | freyr: is there another device which is currently resyncing on those physical devices? |
| 07:25.30 | freyr | no |
| 07:25.33 | dondelelcaro | freyr: the entire output in a paste site is really what I want to see. |
| 07:25.46 | jelly-home | greenlantern: it's been this way for years -- possibly since testing was introduced |
| 07:25.56 | Sw33NY | bonjour à tous |
| 07:26.01 | freyr | the rest of the discs are syncronized |
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| 07:27.48 | geckoclown | buenos dias |
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| 07:31.10 | freyr | !pastebin |
| 07:31.10 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 07:34.43 | freyr | dondelelcaro: here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/BCfKXh62 |
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| 07:40.10 | Kasreyn | "kernel:[122922.095828] do_IRQ: 0.74 No irq handler for vector (irq -1)" how to stop these messages? |
| 07:40.16 | freyr | so, is there a way to solve this problem ? |
| 07:40.35 | dubphil | Hello, my hard disk is partitioned like this : /dev/sda1 => swap /dev/sda2 => / unfortunatly every time I upgrade my debian kernel, it switches the root partition from /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1 in the grub configuration then the system can't boot. I decided finally to move the two partitions with gparted so now the left partition is the root one and the right partition is the swap, I believed I would get this configuration : /dev/sda1 => / /dev/ |
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| 07:42.56 | dubphil | My question is simple, but google didn't help : how to flip /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1 and vice versa ? |
| 07:43.54 | thinksteve | dubphil: You might want to use UUIDs in your /etc/fstab instead of device references. |
| 07:44.37 | dubphil | thinksteve: ok that's an idea but what about grub ? |
| 07:45.27 | llutz | dubphil: you're using grub1? set "kopt" and "groot" correct in menu.lst |
| 07:47.00 | dubphil | llutz: yes grub1 this will prevent debian to modify the grub configuration every time I update the kernel ? |
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| 07:48.09 | llutz | purgat0ry: # kopt=root=/dev/sda2 ro and #groot=(hd0,1) will set your correct root-device when updating grub |
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| 07:48.41 | llutz | dubphil: ^^ sry |
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| 07:49.01 | nsadmin | dubphil, won't prevent it. but the code is no longer supported or maintained upstream. |
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| 07:50.00 | DotHack | Hi! |
| 07:50.06 | nsadmin | it should work fine in most cases; one case where it doesn't is where the boot drive is used as a whole drive as opposed to having a partition table |
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| 07:50.11 | DotHack | What is debians policy on kernel updates? |
| 07:50.31 | vivanov | is unstable reliable enough for home usage + coding? there are several packages in unstable i need but dont want the stable/unstable mix headache |
| 07:50.34 | DotHack | Will they track the updates from kernel.org? |
| 07:50.43 | nsadmin | debian policy states that when kernels are upgraded, their version number increases |
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| 07:51.03 | CoolCold | DotHack: security fixes and some bug fixes keeping version the same |
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| 07:52.07 | DotHack | CoolCold: but there is a longterm stable branche on kernel.org 2.6.32.38 is it now will they incorporate fixes from there? |
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| 07:53.06 | thinksteve | vivanov: If you don't mind bug reporting and working around issues, you can go on. But remember, unstable might break anytime and eat your pets, so do backups. |
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| 07:54.00 | nsadmin | vivanov, think of "use unstable" in a similar way to "military intelligence" |
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| 07:54.15 | vivanov | ))) |
| 07:55.02 | vivanov | ok thanks, ill use the missing packages from unstable, the rest will be stable |
| 07:55.05 | vivanov | thanks a lot :) |
| 07:55.20 | nsadmin | that is not likely to work, |
| 07:55.31 | thinksteve | Good luck with dependencies, vivanov. |
| 07:55.35 | nsadmin | and will produce dependency breakages |
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| 07:56.03 | vivanov | yeah -- il already does produce breakages |
| 07:56.36 | nsadmin | if you don't care much about the "debian" part, perhaps you're more after gentoo or linux from scratch |
| 07:56.52 | vivanov | i just switched from gentoo |
| 07:57.04 | vivanov | the package system in deb is way better |
| 07:57.17 | vivanov | way richer |
| 07:57.18 | thinksteve | Arch or Slackwaree |
| 07:57.19 | vivanov | i mean |
| 07:58.05 | nsadmin | in those cases, you have more (or all) of the responsibility of making sure that what you compile and install on your system works well with the other software you will have installed |
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| 07:59.09 | CoolCold | DotHack: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.32-31/changelog |
| 07:59.14 | CoolCold | look here for example |
| 07:59.32 | nsadmin | it may well be richer, but installing from two different dists is going to break your debian package system on your machine |
| 07:59.44 | nsadmin | it may be rich, but it's broken |
| 07:59.52 | vivanov | ok, so if i want somthing from unstable i better switch all to unstable, right? |
| 07:59.53 | nsadmin | just like Donald Trump |
| 07:59.55 | vivanov | )) |
| 08:00.08 | vivanov | not that rich -- no even a billionaire |
| 08:00.09 | vivanov | :) |
| 08:00.32 | nsadmin | either that or compile the sources from unstable -- then they use libs from your system |
| 08:00.52 | hogren | Euh, there isn't XulRunner on IceCat 4 ? |
| 08:01.10 | vivanov | nsadmin: right, good idea -- thanks :) |
| 08:01.44 | DotHack | CoolCold: ok so they are tracking longterm commits from kernel.org AND patching bugs cool! |
| 08:02.07 | nsadmin | that process is called backporting, and it might work. it might also require additional build deps to be also backported |
| 08:02.22 | nsadmin | like libs and tools used in build process |
| 08:02.44 | CoolCold | DotHack: yes, not backporting drivers (as RH does), but at least fixes |
| 08:02.47 | nsadmin | , versions xulrunner |
| 08:02.49 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'xulrunner' was found in i386. |
| 08:03.01 | nsadmin | guess not |
| 08:03.08 | nsadmin | at least not by that name |
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| 08:06.27 | hogren | the .xul pages are not readable |
| 08:06.37 | hogren | "This page uses an unsupported technology that is no longer available by default in GNU IceCat." |
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| 08:07.34 | dubphil | llutz: I have put kopt=root=/dev/sda2 ro and groot=hd(0,1) befaure ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST saved menu.lst, but update-grup contitnue to flip /dev/sda2 by /dev/sda1 in the automagic kernels list configuration, what can I do then ? |
| 08:08.59 | llutz | dubphil: don't remove the leading "# " at those lines |
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| 08:10.36 | dubphil | llutz: arf you are right I understand now |
| 08:10.42 | dubphil | it works thanks a lot ! |
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| 08:16.56 | baethan | hello |
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| 08:18.02 | baethan | how do I re-install /usr/bin/top? |
| 08:18.52 | homie | dpkg -S /usr/bin/top tells it's in procps package |
| 08:18.52 | dpkg | There is no record of a /usr/bin/top tells it's in procps package package |
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| 08:19.29 | homie | so reinstall procps maybe |
| 08:19.38 | homie | apt-get -y install --reinstall procps |
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| 08:20.58 | nsadmin | , file bin/top |
| 08:21.02 | judd | bin/top in squeeze/i386: procps: usr/bin/top |
| 08:21.23 | baethan | how do I know what is using upg my processor? I'm alway at 100% -- |
| 08:21.59 | baethan | nevermind -- i saw top |
| 08:22.36 | baethan | thanks for the help! |
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| 08:35.54 | Fudge | hi guys, is there a text isntaller for debian, maybe from a server edition? |
| 08:36.14 | Erbureth | Fudge: default installer uses curses |
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| 08:36.40 | Leoneof | hi, is there a way to ignore "The following packages will be REMOVED:" , i don't want to remove installed packages |
| 08:36.50 | Fudge | Erbureth that works |
| 08:36.56 | Fudge | what is the package called so i can install it? |
| 08:37.15 | Erbureth | Leoneof: mark it as installed manually ('m' key in aptitude) |
| 08:37.23 | Erbureth | Fudge: just download the install CD |
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| 08:37.37 | Erbureth | Fudge: or use debootstrap (not really an installer) |
| 08:38.06 | Fudge | Erbureth the full story for me is its actually in mint and there installer sux for me, the remastersys one isnt working as i need it to either work with a cosole screen reader or orca in a gui. text isntaller is fine though |
| 08:38.33 | Leoneof | Erbureth: i'm using apt-get |
| 08:38.56 | Erbureth | Leoneof: then apt-get install <list of packages you want to keep> |
| 08:39.07 | Erbureth | Fudge: sorry, can't help you with mint |
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| 08:39.33 | Fudge | i jsut figured since lmde is debian based i may be able to get an answer here, i realise its not exactly the same though, thank you anyway for trying |
| 08:39.44 | Erbureth | Leoneof: you should consider using aptitude anyway :) |
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| 08:40.52 | Erbureth | Fudge: no problem at all |
| 08:41.21 | flamingspinach | I'm using debian testing and am trying to upgrade some packages, and I'm getting a conflict between rpcbind and portmap, due to a new version of nfs-common wanting rpcbind instead of portmap |
| 08:41.26 | flamingspinach | is it safe to get rid of portmap? |
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| 08:42.37 | Erbureth | flamingspinach: as i understand it, they both provide similar functionality and one superseds the other one, so i'd guess it would be safe (i did get rid of it and so far no problems encountered) |
| 08:43.16 | Erbureth | 'd better get back to classes, see ya |
| 08:44.10 | Fudge | tks mate |
| 08:44.15 | Fudge | now to try and find debian-server channel |
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| 08:46.40 | a931bw | how do i fix: The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 08:46.40 | a931bw | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.40 | a931bw | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.40 | a931bw | E: Broken packages |
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| 08:46.48 | Iridos | bye bye |
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| 08:47.10 | a931bw | how do i fix broken packages? |
| 08:47.14 | a931bw | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.20 | a931bw | i'm using sid |
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| 08:49.31 | Iridos | Eryn_1983_FL, oh, that's interesting... I haven't used nfs for a long time... so never heared of rpcbind |
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| 08:51.08 | CoolCold | a931bw: well, this is sid, u should be ready for such cases .. apt-cache show gedit - and search for deps |
| 08:51.13 | CoolCold | fill the bugs and soo on |
| 08:51.19 | Iridos | a931bw, you're supposed to know if you run sid... it's NOT meant for people who cannot fix this type of problem. (it's actually just meant for developers and testers) |
| 08:51.21 | tarik | Hi all |
| 08:51.25 | Iridos | judd, versions python-gtksourceview2 |
| 08:51.28 | judd | Package python-gtksourceview2 on i386 -- lenny: 2.2.0-1+b1; sid: 2.10.1-1; squeeze: 2.10.1-1; wheezy: 2.10.1-1 |
| 08:51.48 | a931bw | Iridos, ... |
| 08:51.56 | Iridos | a931bw, try "aptitude why-not python-gtksourceview2" |
| 08:52.25 | a931bw | Unable to find a reason to remove python-gtksourceview2. |
| 08:52.38 | Iridos | !tell a931bw -about sid |
| 08:53.07 | a931bw | i know that |
| 08:53.09 | Iridos | I'm not kidding. You installed sid, you wanted the pain... don't come here complaining that it hurts |
| 08:53.19 | a931bw | i am not complaining |
| 08:53.22 | a931bw | just need some help |
| 08:53.38 | Iridos | well, you should not :) |
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| 08:54.05 | a931bw | well |
| 08:54.11 | Iridos | hm... "aptitude update"? |
| 08:54.19 | a931bw | anyone could tell me a repository containing python? |
| 08:54.22 | a931bw | i tried |
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| 08:54.46 | Iridos | python-gtksourceview2 is in main |
| 08:54.49 | a931bw | ill try us mirror |
| 08:55.15 | Iridos | what does apt-cache madison python-gtksourceview2 say for sid |
| 08:55.36 | a931bw | W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-i386_Packages Hash Sum mismatch |
| 08:56.06 | a931bw | python-gtksourceview2 | 2.10.1-1 | http://ftp.lt.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages |
| 08:56.17 | jelly | ,versions python-gtksourceview2 |
| 08:56.17 | judd | Package python-gtksourceview2 on i386 -- lenny: 2.2.0-1+b1; sid: 2.10.1-1; squeeze: 2.10.1-1; wheezy: 2.10.1-1 |
| 08:57.36 | a931bw | root@Brutus-F3Sg:/home/a931bw# apt-get install -t testing gedit |
| 08:57.39 | a931bw | doesn't work too |
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| 08:58.00 | Iridos | you're also mixing testing and sid? |
| 08:58.09 | a931bw | yep |
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| 08:58.29 | wieshka | hey folks - i am trying to set desktop resolution via xrand - so far everything is ok, but how to keep this settings during next bootup also ..... |
| 08:59.01 | geckoclown | reiniciando ... |
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| 09:00.07 | Iridos | a931bw, "aptitude install python-gtksourceview2 -t sid"? |
| 09:00.37 | a931bw | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 09:00.37 | a931bw | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:00.37 | a931bw | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:00.42 | a931bw | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:00.43 | a931bw | 1) python-gtksourceview2 [Not Installed] |
| 09:00.51 | a931bw | y/n/q |
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| 09:01.59 | a931bw | dang |
| 09:02.05 | a931bw | any way to downgrade to wheezy? |
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| 09:02.23 | homie | don't downgrade |
| 09:02.38 | homie | configure apt to use purge rather than remove in it's config file |
| 09:02.43 | ne2k | I am compiling linux 2.4.37.11 (latest 2.4) and I have noticed that the processor family options have been greatly reduced; I only seem to have AMD Hammer, Intel-x86-64 and Generic-x86-64, and there is no help on these items. I am used to compiling for i486. can anyone advise my why this may have changed, or point me to some documentation on it? |
| 09:02.59 | homie | then all packages will be purged prior to install |
| 09:03.14 | homie | that way you get a clean install of wheezy packages back or even squeeze |
| 09:03.44 | a931bw | ok, i installed gedit |
| 09:03.47 | homie | purge and reinstall maybe what you want rather for apt i mean |
| 09:04.06 | a931bw | which installed half of gnome *fayul* |
| 09:04.36 | homie | well gedit runs from X envs not ? |
| 09:04.51 | homie | is there a gedit-nox or such ? |
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| 09:05.05 | homie | that may have fewer deps |
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| 09:05.33 | homie | or get the source compile it without x and the deps you don't want |
| 09:05.34 | a931bw | well |
| 09:05.42 | a931bw | i installed it already |
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| 09:06.57 | homie | or email the maintainer to provide another package without much deps if it is possible |
| 09:07.00 | a931bw | thanks guys :) |
| 09:07.51 | a931bw | btw, how do i fix equinox engine in fluxbox? |
| 09:07.59 | a931bw | i installed .deb package that came with theme |
| 09:08.10 | a931bw | but theme doesn't work as it should |
| 09:08.18 | a931bw | like buttons are "classic" style |
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| 09:12.47 | Bushmills | a931bw: leafpad or mousepad are also X editors, but with much fewer dependencies than gedit |
| 09:12.55 | a931bw | but i prefer gedit |
| 09:13.04 | tarik | hi all i've two partitions /dev/md1 and /dev/md2, i want to delete /dev/md2 how can'i do it ??? |
| 09:13.15 | ws2k3 | fdisk |
| 09:13.19 | Bushmills | well, then live with half gnome |
| 09:13.32 | a931bw | i have no choice.. :( |
| 09:13.40 | ws2k3 | tarik is that raid? |
| 09:13.46 | Bushmills | no. you choose not to have a choice |
| 09:14.23 | tarik | like that /dev/md1 --> / and /dev/md2 --> /home ( i want to create a partition /opt which contain a big space ) |
| 09:14.36 | tarik | ws2k3: yes raid 1 |
| 09:14.52 | a931bw | removing gedit: After this operation, 72.2 MB disk space will be freed. |
| 09:14.58 | ws2k3 | then i dont know sorry. |
| 09:15.13 | a931bw | will use geany |
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| 09:18.40 | a931bw | how do i check if i have bluetooth in laptop? |
| 09:18.47 | a931bw | i never seen it working |
| 09:18.52 | a931bw | but there's bluetooth led |
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| 09:22.35 | tarik | a93lbw: try with this command iwconfig |
| 09:23.10 | llutz | a931bw: "hcitool dev" |
| 09:23.51 | a931bw | Devices: |
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| 09:24.23 | a931bw | nothing in iwconfig |
| 09:24.50 | llutz | a931bw: either no driver loaded or no bluetooth at all. check "lsusb" "lspci" or dmesg for bluetooth devices. |
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| 09:25.18 | llutz | iwconfig won't list anything bt-related |
| 09:25.34 | Wulf | hello |
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| 09:26.15 | Wulf | I plugged in a usb mass storage device; debian (or gnome) automounts it and opens a "File Browser" window. How can I disable that? |
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| 09:26.50 | ksk | ask gnome :P |
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| 09:28.22 | babilen | Wulf: There is some "removable media" settings thingie in gnome-control-center IIRC |
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| 09:28.34 | tregeagle | Wulf: in Nautilus (the File Browser) click on Edit > Preferences > Media |
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| 09:28.57 | Wulf | I think I've found it |
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| 09:29.33 | Wulf | I've been using icewm for many many years. All that crazy stuff is new to me :) |
| 09:29.36 | Kyoshiro` | hi |
| 09:30.23 | Kyoshiro` | I just installed a debian stable on my server, and when it reboots it complains about not being able to find rootfs. The message is : "ALERT! /dev/md0 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" |
| 09:30.37 | a931bw | llutz:: http://pastebin.com/f6M9wTSS |
| 09:30.49 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: did you install it on a software raid? |
| 09:30.53 | Kyoshiro` | yeah |
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| 09:31.24 | Kyoshiro` | the configuration is 2 disks splitted in 3 parts, sda1 is /boot ext2 no raid, sda2/sdb2 = swap, sda3 / sdb3 = raid member |
| 09:31.32 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: what's the partition type of your harddrive partitions? fdisk -l /dev/sda |
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| 09:31.42 | Kyoshiro` | and /dev/md0 is using /dev/sda3 and sdb3 |
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| 09:32.10 | a931bw | what software should i use to control bluetooth? |
| 09:32.17 | Kyoshiro` | I'll reboot on a live CD, the busybox shell has no fdisk ^^' |
| 09:32.43 | Wulf | a931bw: bluez-utils iirc |
| 09:32.52 | Wulf | a931bw: but there might be graphical tools as well |
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| 09:36.08 | Kyoshiro` | Wulf: /dev/sda1 (/boot) Linux, sda2 Linux swap / Solaris, sda3 (/) Linux raid autodetect |
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| 09:36.35 | Kyoshiro` | I've put /boot outside of the raid array to avoid issues, is it a bad idea ? |
| 09:36.51 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: no, that's okay |
| 09:36.55 | Kyoshiro` | ok |
| 09:36.59 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: contents of /proc/mdstat? |
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| 09:38.03 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: in the live-system and in the rescue shell. compare it |
| 09:38.20 | Kyoshiro` | ok |
| 09:38.32 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: and check if md or software raid modules exist in the rescue system |
| 09:38.47 | Kyoshiro` | how ? |
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| 09:39.09 | Wulf | /lib/modules/2.6.xy/md/* |
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| 09:39.30 | Kyoshiro` | the mdstat is the same in the installer env and rescue shell |
| 09:39.38 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: can you show it to me? |
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| 09:40.23 | Kyoshiro` | I can't copy paste but I'll copy manually since it's short |
| 09:40.28 | Kyoshiro` | but it's telling /dev/md127 |
| 09:40.32 | Kyoshiro` | instead of /dev/md0 |
| 09:40.47 | Kyoshiro` | is it the rescue CD using the wrong number ? |
| 09:41.07 | Kyoshiro` | or using numbers after 127 to avoid collisions ? |
| 09:41.32 | Wulf | that's strange. iirc, you can set the md number inside the md superblock. Maybe that's the problem |
| 09:41.51 | Kyoshiro` | hmm strange |
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| 09:42.11 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: can I still see /proc/mdstat? |
| 09:42.14 | Kyoshiro` | yep |
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| 09:44.19 | Kyoshiro` | http://pastebin.com/GhAtms29 |
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| 09:44.57 | Wulf | aside from `127' it looks good |
| 09:46.19 | Kyoshiro` | anyways, 127 or 0, when booting, the busybox has no /dev/md* at all |
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| 09:46.52 | Kyoshiro` | hmmm there is no mdadm available on the rescue shell |
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| 09:46.58 | Kyoshiro` | maybe that's the issue ? |
| 09:47.11 | Kyoshiro` | no mdadm means update-grub did not add raid instructiones ? |
| 09:47.12 | Kyoshiro` | -e |
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| 09:48.06 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: you don't need mdadm to assemble(?) an array or boot a system. Kernel can do it all |
| 09:48.16 | Kyoshiro` | ok |
| 09:48.28 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: mdadm -E /dev/sda |
| 09:48.48 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: mdadm -E /dev/sda3 and /dev/sdb3 |
| 09:48.57 | Kyoshiro` | the thing I don't understand most is why it can't boot a freshly installed system ^^' |
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| 09:49.07 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: mistake in the installer, I guess |
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| 09:52.12 | Kyoshiro` | Wulf: http://pastebin.com/darJuqMs |
| 09:53.34 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: that's funny. I created an md device myself, and it's md127 |
| 09:53.50 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: do you have /dev/md/merry or similar? |
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| 09:56.09 | vatzec | nkuttler: OK, here's the information I've managed to gather: I've downloaded grub-1.98, compiled it, and ran grub-mkdevicemap from the compiled package -- it's also failed, so I fiddled around with the sources and added some debugging printfs into them. Here's the current result of ./grub-mkdevicemap, and the sources: http://pastebin.com/VLcpPRGv, http://pastebin.com/K2BQrfJk, http://pastebin.com/3mX2jBJr |
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| 09:57.16 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: try to change your root device to /dev/md/merry |
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| 09:57.26 | Kyoshiro` | I have /dev/md/0 |
| 09:57.26 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: then your system should boot |
| 09:57.32 | Kyoshiro` | and /dev/md0 |
| 09:57.38 | Kyoshiro` | with an ubuntu live CD |
| 09:57.53 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: and in the rescue system? |
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| 09:58.24 | Kyoshiro` | it was a debian live CD too |
| 09:58.29 | Kyoshiro` | but not the installed rescue system |
| 09:58.42 | Kyoshiro` | I can try and reboot on it |
| 09:58.57 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: well, just change your root device to /dev/md/merry or /dev/md127 |
| 09:59.07 | Kyoshiro` | but in the shell I had when I had the issue there was no /dev/md* at all |
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| 09:59.32 | Kyoshiro` | so I suppose it's missing mdraid module or something like that, maybe in the initrd ? |
| 09:59.33 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: maybe because of missing udev or devfs |
| 09:59.57 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: if /proc/mdstat shows your raid device, the module exists. |
| 10:00.13 | Kyoshiro` | yeah but it shows it in a liveCD |
| 10:00.32 | Kyoshiro` | I didn't check in the busybox when the error occurred |
| 10:00.52 | Wulf | do it. |
| 10:00.56 | Kyoshiro` | ok |
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| 10:02.46 | Kyoshiro` | lol |
| 10:02.53 | Kyoshiro` | there is no /proc/mdstat at all |
| 10:03.13 | Kyoshiro` | it's a busybox dropped by the init ramdisk |
| 10:03.24 | Kyoshiro` | I think the initrd file has no md module |
| 10:03.54 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: is there /lib/modules/xyz/md/* |
| 10:04.08 | Kyoshiro` | (I'm going to eat, I'll brb, thanks for your help if you're not there when I'm back :)) |
| 10:04.10 | Wulf | +kernel/ |
| 10:04.12 | vatzec | No way. I think the error is caused by a fclose(fp). |
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| 10:07.56 | Wulf | elhpi: please stop that |
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| 10:20.00 | Burns | Hello my webserver HDD is full, I'd like to know how to find which places/directories are taking places |
| 10:20.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | du |
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| 10:21.56 | Burns | Kamping_Kaiser http://pastebin.com/HbYvMSCn |
| 10:21.59 | Wulf | Burns: du -x | sort -n |
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| 10:22.27 | Wulf | Burns: why is it "sh-3.2"? How do you connect to it? |
| 10:22.43 | Burns | Wulf http://pastebin.com/1ACaKs1s |
| 10:22.44 | Burns | su |
| 10:22.48 | ex-parrot | does anyone have an easy workaruond for mentors.debian not accepting my GPG because it's too large? it has a photo included and I'm not sure how to coerce gpg in to exporting it sans photo |
| 10:23.19 | Wulf | go to the root of the partition which is full. cd / might help |
| 10:23.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | ex-parrot: perhaps try #debian-mentors on oftc (irc.debian.org) |
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| 10:23.25 | ex-parrot | cheers Kamping_Kaiser |
| 10:23.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | ex-parrot: np |
| 10:23.40 | Burns | how to know which one is full |
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| 10:25.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | Burns: pastebin 'df -h' |
| 10:26.35 | Burns | http://pastebin.com/ENvXZi2X |
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| 10:27.27 | Wulf | Burns: cd /; du -x|sort -n |
| 10:28.22 | Burns | I had alot of information |
| 10:28.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | Burns: run what wulf said, i'd also add -sh to the du too (so its du -shx) |
| 10:28.35 | Burns | shall I copy just the end ? |
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| 10:29.06 | Wulf | Kamping_Kaiser: no |
| 10:29.17 | Wulf | Burns: don't add -sh. |
| 10:29.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | Wulf: why? |
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| 10:29.51 | Wulf | -s won't show him, where exactly the space is taken. -h will disturb sort |
| 10:30.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | ah, of course. one file system. you're right, -s wont make him happy |
| 10:30.16 | Burns | http://pastebin.com/SsLqW9de |
| 10:30.24 | Burns | I couldnt copy everything so I did only the last |
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| 10:31.05 | Wulf | Burns: var/log/virtualmin |
| 10:31.12 | Wulf | whatever that is |
| 10:31.12 | Burns | yeah |
| 10:31.33 | Burns | I found there is a log with a big size |
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| 10:31.44 | Burns | deleting the whole logs on virtualmin |
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| 10:32.43 | Wulf | ah, related to webmin. Delete that crap ;) |
| 10:32.59 | Burns | done |
| 10:33.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | imagine my surprise *heh* |
| 10:33.17 | Wulf | I meant, delete webmin, virtualmin, etc |
| 10:33.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | a web panel that doses your box in the background |
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| 10:34.43 | Burns | yeah I found out the problem |
| 10:34.50 | Burns | It was because of webmin failed backups |
| 10:35.00 | Burns | I find my website directories are backed up like 4x times |
| 10:35.25 | Burns | deleting all this shit and lets see how much it will free up |
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| 10:37.14 | Burns | /dev/sda1 453G 417G 13G 97% / |
| 10:37.23 | woshty | where would i find documentation for grub2? |
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| 10:38.09 | SPF | !tell woshty about grub2 |
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| 10:42.05 | woshty | SPF: why are there no manpages? |
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| 10:43.46 | SPF | woshty: no idea |
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| 10:43.56 | SPF | woshty: maybe because grub2 is not a command? |
| 10:44.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | woshty: apropos grub lists quite a number of pages for me |
| 10:44.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | man update-grub |
| 10:44.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | sigh. let me finish that sentense |
| 10:45.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | man update-grub should be the exception, as its a wrapper |
| 10:45.16 | Burns | If i delete the log folder, logs will be created again with their folders ? |
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| 10:45.33 | f0x90 | Sup guys |
| 10:45.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | Burns: 'maybe'. depends how broken your software is |
| 10:45.45 | f0x90 | wow theres a SHITTON of ppl here |
| 10:46.03 | f0x90 | So I've got debian working nicely except when i try to connect it to my PC's hdmi output |
| 10:46.07 | f0x90 | It's green |
| 10:46.13 | f0x90 | Any known fiex? |
| 10:46.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | what is green? |
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| 10:47.08 | woshty | i get an "error 15" directly after installing squeeze from an usb stick |
| 10:47.25 | robblesz | Hi guys, I have a question about package naming. I installed a custom build of a package. It was based on repo version number 5.1.54-12.5-188.lenny, and my custom build had version number 5.1.54-12.5-188.lenny+robblesz1. A new version was released in the repo, and apt is prompting me to upgrade to 5.1.55-12.6-200.lenny. |
| 10:47.25 | robblesz | How do I name my custom build so that apt doesn't automatically upgrade it? |
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| 10:48.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | woshty: odds on grub got installed onto the usb stick |
| 10:48.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | woshty: or was confused by it |
| 10:48.47 | woshty | i tried to understand what grub does when, but grub2 has files in /boot/grub and /etc/grub2 (or something like this) and options in /etc/defaults - is there any other current bootloader? |
| 10:48.59 | sepski | woshty, i'v been in that boat. the problem was that when grub was installed it got installed on my usbstick instad of the os disk. if i removed the usbstick after installer was finished using it it worked |
| 10:49.59 | woshty | sepski: hmm, strange .. i will try this then |
| 10:50.00 | woshty | thx all |
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| 10:51.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | robblesz: you either give your version a higher number, or you use apt pinning to keep it in place |
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| 10:54.39 | f0x90 | help |
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| 10:59.12 | robblesz | Yeah, I can also aptitude hold the package. I was wondering if there's a way to append something to the version |
| 10:59.52 | Rziz | Hm, I'm having a confusing issue with the physical drive order with 2 harddrives, one IDE, the other SATA. the SATA drive is first in the bios boot sequence and is recognised from any live cd as /dev/sda, as well as the first drive in grub. My debian install sees the reverse order (IDE drive as /dev/sda).. this doesn't cause immediate problems due to UUID fstab, but I wonder if this might be related to grub mappign? |
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| 11:01.45 | Rziz | Or is this just related to kernel discovery order? |
| 11:01.50 | vtts | Rziz, modules for your IDE/SATA might be loaded in a different order |
| 11:03.22 | Rziz | vtts: hm, ic, thanks |
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| 11:14.41 | Burns | how much debian normally can take in hdd space ? |
| 11:16.21 | keith105 | some detials here Burns http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en |
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| 11:16.40 | abrotman | Burns: minimum if you strip it down .. 600MB or so |
| 11:16.46 | keith105 | if u click on the disk space needed for tasks u see its very little |
| 11:16.53 | keith105 | yup |
| 11:16.57 | abrotman | !u |
| 11:16.57 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 11:18.07 | keith105 | abrotman: i take it this is a pet hate of "urs" :p |
| 11:18.19 | Kyoshiro` | Wulf: in /lib/modules/2.3.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/md/ there is dm-mod.ko |
| 11:18.23 | abrotman | and most sane people |
| 11:18.25 | Kyoshiro` | but nothing else |
| 11:18.27 | Zambezi | How can I restart Xorg without Ctrl+Alt+Backspace? |
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| 11:18.56 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: that's a problem. Maybe it's compiled into the kernel or doesn't exist at all. |
| 11:19.08 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: anything in kernel logs? |
| 11:19.18 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: dmesg | grep md |
| 11:19.28 | abrotman | Zambezi: how did you login ? |
| 11:19.47 | Zambezi | abrotman: startx |
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| 11:19.57 | abrotman | if you know the config option for the kernel, you can check the config |
| 11:20.07 | abrotman | Zambezi: killall Xorg ? you'll be back at the console |
| 11:20.07 | keith105 | i've seen lots of ppl messing about with those maps - wtf are they? :) |
| 11:20.18 | keith105 | ***sorry*** wrong channel |
| 11:20.37 | Zambezi | abrotman: I thought there was like /etc/init.d/xorg stop or something similar. |
| 11:20.54 | abrotman | if you use gdm/xdm/kdm .. there would be .. you didn't |
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| 11:21.28 | Kyoshiro` | Wulf: I have the kernel command line and 6 lines about ataX: PATA max UDMA/..... bmdma ... irq xx |
| 11:21.38 | Kyoshiro` | but no useful line |
| 11:22.03 | Kyoshiro` | so maybe the init ramdisk doesn't provide the md module ? |
| 11:22.45 | keith105 | i've used alien to convert an rpm to deb, however i think that debian treats ip6tables and iptables as one package, as opposed to centos... anybody familiar with converting to deb and fixing distro differences? |
| 11:23.21 | abrotman | keith105: debian has an iptables package .. why mess with it? |
| 11:24.09 | keith105 | because ip6tables is broken on 32bit openvz templates until a certain kernel. a staff has released a fix for centos distos, which works fine |
| 11:24.28 | keith105 | im trying to convert that for use on debian vps, however due to the differences.... ip6tables works fine, but it breaks iptables |
| 11:24.36 | keith105 | so im half way there |
| 11:24.49 | abrotman | would think it would be better to use uupdate or put the source into a package than screw with an RPM not intended for Debian |
| 11:25.22 | Zambezi | abrotman: Thanks. I'm trying to restart X to apply setting for my second monitor, but no luck so far. |
| 11:25.37 | abrotman | Zambezi: what is your DE/WM ? |
| 11:25.45 | Zambezi | abrotman: Ion3. |
| 11:25.54 | Zambezi | abrotman: ion3_20090110-3_amd64.deb |
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| 11:26.16 | keith105 | abrotman: i think lack of kernel updates, ala openvz containers, would prevent that? |
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| 11:26.33 | abrotman | keith105: FIIK, i was just commenting on the idea of trying to use the RPM |
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| 11:26.46 | abrotman | Zambezi: okay .. did you get X killed? |
| 11:27.21 | keith105 | np cheers, im in no rush just seein if anyone on now could assist, im trying to manually correct the iptables package on deb to reflect the ip6tables that worked on centos |
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| 11:27.40 | abrotman | or do that .. do a diff between source files .. see where it differs |
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| 11:27.57 | Zambezi | abrotman: Yes. killall xinit and logged out, login again and startx. |
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| 11:31.30 | arcsky | hello is there any solution that can do ssh r1 and it alias are ssh r1@10.0.0.2 ? |
| 11:31.44 | arcsky | also if i do ssh r2 it comes to ssh r2@10.0.0.2 |
| 11:32.03 | joltcan | arcsky: you can do stuff like that with ssh_config |
| 11:32.39 | abrotman | or just make a bash alias .. |
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| 11:33.01 | joltcan | that too |
| 11:33.30 | joltcan | I usually use both, since I might want to scp/rsync files as well |
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| 11:34.20 | joltcan | arcsky: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/ssh/#config |
| 11:34.41 | keith105 | rsync is great though when you've got a mix of ntfs / ext4 and windows / linux OSs it can take a bit of practice to get it working right |
| 11:34.59 | Kyoshiro` | Wulf: which module should I find in /lib/... ? |
| 11:35.05 | keith105 | especially when half the ntfs parts are loaded in linux :( |
| 11:35.08 | arcsky | abrotman: how to do it with alias ? |
| 11:35.13 | Zambezi | abrotman: I found a tutorial know which seems to be what I'm looking for. I give it go today. |
| 11:35.45 | abrotman | arcsky: google "bash create alias" |
| 11:35.55 | arcsky | already know |
| 11:35.57 | arcsky | but this doesnt work |
| 11:36.07 | arcsky | alias ssh r1="ssh r1@10.0.0.2" |
| 11:36.47 | Iridos | why don't you r1="ssh r1@10.0.0.2" and call it with r1 |
| 11:37.01 | arcsky | can be abit confusing |
| 11:37.13 | Iridos | not as confusing as what you suggest |
| 11:37.16 | arcsky | i want to see abrotman solve this |
| 11:37.21 | Iridos | you suggest that ssh stops working as it should |
| 11:37.39 | red2kic | The proper route? Create ~/.ssh/config and put stuffs in there! |
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| 11:38.29 | abrotman | arcsky: i am not doing your research .. i gave oyu a possible solution, not a hard one .. go read about it a bit |
| 11:38.44 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: e.g. raid1.ko |
| 11:38.58 | Kyoshiro` | ok |
| 11:38.59 | arcsky | abrotman: not proper solution |
| 11:39.13 | arcsky | abrotman: it's another way to solve it |
| 11:39.20 | arcsky | abrotman: nice try |
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| 11:40.56 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: End of Lastlog |
| 11:41.01 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: argh |
| 11:41.20 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: http://paste.debian.net/114458/ |
| 11:41.30 | Wulf | new laptop, new touchpad. |
| 11:41.48 | Kyoshiro` | ok :) |
| 11:41.49 | Kyoshiro` | thanks |
| 11:41.58 | Kyoshiro` | I'll try to rebuild the initrd with these modules |
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| 11:42.29 | prince_jammys | arcsky: use a shell function. |
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| 11:43.03 | prince_jammys | ah, no, you want real magic. |
| 11:43.12 | Iridos | yeah... but writing one for this seems like a lot of effort for something that's not really smart anyway |
| 11:43.18 | Iridos | hehe |
| 11:43.29 | Iridos | NEARLY real magic |
| 11:44.12 | prince_jammys | arcsky: something a la: ssh() { case $1 in r?) command ssh "$1@foo" ;; *) command ssh "$@"; } |
| 11:44.39 | prince_jammys | ssh() { case $1 in r?) command ssh "$1@foo" "${@:2}" ;; *) command ssh "$@"; esac; } |
| 11:45.07 | prince_jammys | (''command'' so you don't recurse). have fun |
| 11:45.23 | Iridos | hehe |
| 11:46.29 | prince_jammys | that should work. or case $1 in r1|r2|other|special|words) ... |
| 11:46.30 | abrotman | arcsky: if you want to be lazy, that's your problem, not mine |
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| 11:47.42 | prince_jammys | forget about ever logging into a host 'r1' with a default user name, of course. |
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| 11:48.23 | Iridos | ssh $USER@r1 |
| 11:48.38 | prince_jammys | that ain't a default user! |
| 11:48.44 | prince_jammys | but yes, you'd do that. |
| 11:48.48 | Iridos | I think you did well retaining ssh functionality |
| 11:49.20 | Iridos | and it IS the default user if I use $USER instead of substituting for a name |
| 11:49.58 | prince_jammys | ok, i mean "forget about not typing the user if you log into hosts that match your magic words" |
| 11:50.02 | Burns | /dev/sda1 453G 5.2G 425G 2% / |
| 11:50.13 | curmudgeon_ | Anybody know if OO.org extensions work with Libre Office? |
| 11:50.14 | Burns | Thanks to a reboot it went down to 2% from 100% |
| 11:50.18 | Burns | any explaination ? |
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| 11:53.37 | t67 | when I use adduser it asks for current kerberos password... |
| 11:53.38 | t67 | wtf |
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| 11:54.23 | t67 | what IS kerberos password? |
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| 11:56.28 | arcsky | r1@1.1.1.1 r2@1.1.1.1 |
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| 11:58.55 | Burns | /dev/sda1 453G 5.2G 425G 2% / |
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| 11:59.11 | Burns | anyone can explain to me why it change to 2% from 100% after rebooting |
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| 11:59.46 | mynameistux | do I have to do anything to install a new network card on my debian server? |
| 12:00.18 | mynameistux | it doesn't seem to be detecting |
| 12:00.19 | petemc | depends on the card, often you dont other than configure an address |
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| 12:00.27 | petemc | mynameistux: does ifconfig -a show it? |
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| 12:00.42 | Iridos | Burns, no. Reboots don't do that. Search for the big file(s) and/or fsck the drive |
| 12:00.51 | mynameistux | ugh, I'm a bit slow arn't I? |
| 12:01.16 | mynameistux | it only shows eth0 |
| 12:01.26 | mynameistux | which I assume is the 10/100 on my mobo |
| 12:01.36 | petemc | mynameistux: check dmesg / syslog / messages |
| 12:01.37 | mynameistux | I just plugged in a 1GB/s |
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| 12:02.47 | uabn93 | when i place two fingers on the trackpad, the mouse shakes back and forth rapidly and clicks on random stuff. how can i fix this? |
| 12:03.17 | DotHack | i´m copying lots of data of an usb drive with a ext3 partition on it but i keep getting kernel panics.... |
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| 12:05.37 | mynameistux | [ 1.333983] eth1: RTL8169sb/8110sb at 0xf7e8c400, 00:1f:1f:07:c7:34, XID 10000000 IRQ 16 |
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| 12:05.48 | mynameistux | that's the only thing relating to eth1 |
| 12:05.55 | t67 | uabn93: lol |
| 12:06.28 | Burns | Iridos ... |
| 12:06.33 | Burns | I know what I saw |
| 12:06.45 | Burns | and I can't have 450 giga in no time |
| 12:06.59 | Burns | My website is taking 2 giga, and 2 giga for debian |
| 12:07.14 | Burns | Lets give 100 giga for the cache/logs even if it's impossible |
| 12:07.23 | Burns | so its 104 go ? |
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| 12:07.23 | uabn93 | t67: help? ...lol |
| 12:07.37 | t67 | Nah, I'm looking for help also |
| 12:07.42 | mynameistux | uabn93 |
| 12:07.47 | mynameistux | I think I know of an ubuntu fix for that |
| 12:07.56 | mynameistux | but it's for a specific sort of laptop |
| 12:08.04 | uabn93 | I run ubuntu |
| 12:08.24 | jelly | uabn93: you're in the wrong channel then |
| 12:08.32 | uabn93 | and a g62 hp laptop |
| 12:08.39 | t67 | why does passwd ask for `current kerberos password'? |
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| 12:08.52 | uabn93 | jelly: c'mon, im a big debian fan. |
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| 12:08.59 | jelly | !ubuntu |
| 12:08.59 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 12:09.07 | hotfloppy | !gyachi |
| 12:09.09 | petemc | uabn93: not enough of a fan to use it tho? |
| 12:09.18 | hotfloppy | hello all~ |
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| 12:09.40 | mynameistux | uabn93 http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2011/01/12/enable-multitouch-support-for-clickpad-on-ubuntu-10-10/ |
| 12:09.48 | uabn93 | petemc: im learning |
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| 12:10.02 | mynameistux | the blogger is a good friend of mine, but it worked for me when I was having the same problem |
| 12:10.18 | mynameistux | but tbh, I dislike the clickpad immensly, and just got a mouse :P |
| 12:10.23 | hotfloppy | i want to know where can i get gyachi.. or maybe how compile it.. |
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| 12:10.41 | hotfloppy | i've try but got no luck.. |
| 12:10.54 | jelly | t67: Kerberos is an authentication mechanism oft used in large installations. |
| 12:10.58 | uabn93 | mynameistux: do you have the link to the site? |
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| 12:11.03 | hotfloppy | got autoconf error.. |
| 12:11.07 | abrotman | uabn93: please go to #ubuntu for support |
| 12:11.34 | mynameistux | uabn93, see my PM |
| 12:11.35 | mynameistux | in a sec |
| 12:11.37 | mynameistux | when I send it |
| 12:11.42 | jelly | t67: you might have intentionally or accidentally installed or configured some support for it |
| 12:11.42 | abrotman | mynameistux: please go to #ubuntu with him |
| 12:12.10 | mynameistux | I'm trying to get support for a debian problem on a debian server |
| 12:12.22 | Craigwd_2000 | I'm having trouble auto-mounting my Android smartphone in Wheezy's KDE 4... Is it still possible to automount problematic USB Mass Storage Devices manually like it was in KDE 3.5.10 or does that feature not exist anymore...? |
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| 12:12.34 | t67 | jelly: is installed by default on my VPS |
| 12:12.41 | abrotman | mynameistux: that's fine .. ubuntu is not supported here, please refrain from providing support for it, send them to #ubuntu |
| 12:12.57 | jelly | t67: hm, ask your administrator? |
| 12:14.39 | petemc | mynameistux: grep -A 4 -B 4 eth1 |
| 12:14.48 | t67 | It doesn't come with support, I am the administrator |
| 12:15.35 | jelly | t67: can you ask your service provider to install just the base debian system, then? Care to pastebin the output of dpkg -l libc6 libpam\* libnss\* \*krb\* \*kerberos\* |grep ^.i |
| 12:16.19 | mynameistux | petemc: doesn't that need an output file? |
| 12:16.42 | mynameistux | petemc: like, lspci | grep [options] |
| 12:16.54 | prince_jammys | yes, needs some form of input. |
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| 12:18.02 | mynameistux | I'm getting a realtek gigabit ethernet card in lspci |
| 12:18.03 | Burns | /dev/sda1 453G 12G 419G 3% / |
| 12:18.11 | mynameistux | so why does it not show up in ifconfig? |
| 12:18.11 | Burns | anyone know why size is going up ? |
| 12:18.11 | Burns | /dev/sda1 453G 36G 394G 9% / |
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| 12:18.30 | jelly | Burns: something is filling up the filesystem? |
| 12:18.39 | Burns | that fast ? |
| 12:18.45 | Craigwd_2000 | I hear the connection sound on my Android smartphone but then the mount point never appears in either Dolphin or Krusader... |
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| 12:18.51 | jelly | Burns: I don't know how fast it is. |
| 12:19.02 | Burns | very fast |
| 12:19.10 | Burns | It will be 100% in few hours |
| 12:19.14 | petemc | mynameistux: yes, i previously suggested which logs to grep, you found one line, im not suggesting you check surrounding lines |
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| 12:19.27 | petemc | s/not/now/ |
| 12:19.38 | abrotman | Burns: what commands are running? a run away log? |
| 12:19.55 | jelly | Burns: atop is your friend. |
| 12:20.34 | Burns | E: Couldn't find package atop |
| 12:20.44 | t67 | jelly: http://t67.eu/pastie.txt |
| 12:20.55 | jelly | Burns: which debian release are you using? |
| 12:20.57 | jelly | ,versions atop |
| 12:20.59 | judd | Package atop on i386 -- lenny: 1.23-1; sid: 1.23-1; squeeze: 1.23-1; wheezy: 1.23-1 |
| 12:21.09 | Burns | lenny |
| 12:21.53 | jelly | Burns: that package is available for lenny, as you can see |
| 12:22.17 | mynameistux | http://pastebin.com/K89jX3QQ this is what I get from dmesg |
| 12:22.30 | mynameistux | when I filter it with the grep command you gave me |
| 12:22.33 | jelly | t67: get rid of libpam-krb5 and krb5-config, for starters. Verify there is no mention of krb in /etc/pam.d/* first |
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| 12:24.27 | erAbuelo | ta lueg |
| 12:24.39 | jelly | Burns: you could also use du to find out the largest directory on that filesystem. |
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| 12:25.18 | t67 | jelly: there is mention of it in /etc/pam.d/*: http://t67.eu/pastie.txt |
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| 12:25.40 | jelly | Burns: make sure to give du options to only check one file system and not cross filesystem boundaries |
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| 12:25.55 | Oday | i downloaded and installed JDeveloper, but it isn't listed under anywhere in Applications..how can i find it? |
| 12:26.18 | jelly | t67: I see no change in pastie.txt |
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| 12:26.53 | t67 | grr, it's my crappy gzip cahe |
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| 12:27.28 | Zambezi | Which packages includes xrandr? Cause I got most of the xinerama and randr, but still no xrandr command even though I got grandr. |
| 12:27.29 | t67 | http://t67.eu/pastie2.txt |
| 12:27.41 | t67 | I need fix that gzip cache |
| 12:27.43 | jelly | t67: 403 |
| 12:28.28 | jelly | t67: to cut the story short, remove kerberos from your PAM config |
| 12:28.29 | t67 | chmod +r pastie2.txt |
| 12:28.46 | jelly | nope, still forbidden |
| 12:28.50 | t67 | lol |
| 12:29.27 | t67 | chmod o+r pastie2.txt |
| 12:29.36 | t67 | works now |
| 12:29.55 | jelly | yeah, get rid of that and restore default pam configs |
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| 12:30.39 | t67 | what you mean rm it and re-install pam? |
| 12:30.48 | t67 | I'm new to Debian |
| 12:30.49 | jelly | and ask your provider or former administrator wth did they enable that if you don't have a kerberos setup |
| 12:30.58 | fbs | is it possbile to install debian on a lvm partition (only root & boot). And then clone that partition to have 2 identical installations? Which both work ofc |
| 12:31.45 | jelly | t67: don't rm anything in /etc/pam.d/ ... comment out the kerberos-related lines and see if you can still log in |
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| 12:32.36 | jelly | removing the wrong file from /etc/pam.d would have... consequences |
| 12:32.47 | t67 | k, will in a sec I just need to install emacs and screen |
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| 12:37.31 | Burns | how to know whats taking space via atop |
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| 12:38.55 | Burns | http://s1.postimage.org/5coqbq6jh/lolx.jpg |
| 12:39.06 | dr_traktor | Partially off-topic: I'm used to debian but a VPS provider I chose offers only Ubuntu 9.10. Is Ubuntu much different from debian from a command line perspective? |
| 12:39.06 | jelly | Burns: it doesn't show what's taking space, but it will show which processes write to the disk the most |
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| 12:39.46 | Burns | WRDSK ? |
| 12:39.51 | Burns | thats the thing ? |
| 12:40.12 | jelly | Burns: yes. when you identify the process and take note of its process id (pid) number, you can use lsof -p PIDHERE to see which files it has open |
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| 12:41.23 | jelly | dr_traktor: 9.10 was end-of-lifed by the vendor, it's an interesting choice of OS by that VPS provider |
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| 12:42.30 | dr_traktor | jelly: Well I can choose between Ubuntu 9.10 and Debian 5 but there's a package only available on Ubuntu (or Deb6). So is there a big disatvantage of Ubuntu 9.10 over Debian 5? |
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| 12:42.58 | jelly | dr_traktor: debian 5 still has security support, until about Feb 2012 |
| 12:43.13 | Kyoshiro` | Wulf: in fact it worked after I installed mdadm |
| 12:43.28 | dr_traktor | jelly: Oh, I see. |
| 12:43.29 | Kyoshiro` | it triggerred the loading of md modules by mkinitrd |
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| 12:43.35 | jelly | dr_traktor: if you plan on offering any internet-faced services, security support is probably important |
| 12:43.51 | dr_traktor | jelly: Yes, but the package would be important too. Damn. |
| 12:43.52 | Kyoshiro` | so debian's installer lacks the install of mdadm when you use soft raid ^^' |
| 12:45.24 | jelly | !tell dr_traktor about backports |
| 12:45.27 | jelly | !tell dr_traktor about ssb |
| 12:46.11 | t67 | jelly: after editing those files I oculd still log in but not run passwd, so now I uninstall those packages and it says this: http://t67.eu/pastie3.txt |
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| 12:46.57 | t67 | btw I hope your browser uses monospace otherwize that pastie will look a bit messed up |
| 12:47.10 | jelly | t67: hm... I'd say a cautious "yes" would be in order, and a backup of that directory before it |
| 12:47.17 | t67 | kk |
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| 12:50.12 | t67 | OK, I can't log in now |
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| 12:50.31 | dr_traktor | jelly: The package does not have an existing backport but are you suggesting it might be possible to build a lenny package from a squeeze one? |
| 12:50.49 | jelly | dr_traktor: that is what I'm suggesting yes |
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| 12:51.27 | jelly | dr_traktor: what is the name of the previously unnamed important package? |
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| 12:55.51 | jelly | s/previously/hitherto/ |
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| 12:59.59 | dr_traktor | jelly: calibre |
| 13:00.27 | dr_traktor | jelly: But in the meantime I think im going to back down from this hosting company. I think Im finding another one. |
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| 13:01.41 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: interesting. I'll try to remember it |
| 13:01.53 | Kyoshiro` | hehe me too xD |
| 13:01.56 | vatzec | What program could be sending sigkill to other processes? |
| 13:02.02 | vatzec | Not all of them, just some that do something specific |
| 13:02.03 | Wulf | vatzec: the kernel. |
| 13:02.15 | Kyoshiro` | anyways, thanks a lot for your help :) |
| 13:02.22 | Wulf | Kyoshiro`: you're welcome |
| 13:02.25 | project2501b | can you install a new operating system image in virtual box, using only the command line? |
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| 13:02.36 | vatzec | Wulf: Well, I have this through-pointer-to-function-in-another-file function call, and it causes the process to be killed |
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| 13:02.42 | dr_traktor | Can you recommend maybe a good company hosting squeeze on Xen? |
| 13:02.42 | project2501b | man, i got so many questions... |
| 13:02.53 | project2501b | better get to it and find out for myself. |
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| 13:03.03 | Wulf | vatzec: tell me more about it. |
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| 13:06.06 | keith105 | hi folks, how come gnome terminal doesn't always show the ssh location you're logged in to in the tab bar, and sometimes does? |
| 13:06.07 | vatzec | http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/grub/trunk/grub/annotate/head:/util/grub-mkdevicemap.c has process_device in it, which is passed to grub_util_iterate_devices (process_device, floppy_disks); as a pointer. It is referenced to as "hook()" in http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/grub/trunk/grub/annotate/head:/util/deviceiter.c, in function grub_util_iterate_devices(). A couple of times it works, but when it tries to do hook ( "/dev/sda", 0 ), it gets killed. |
| 13:06.09 | rickbol | have sqwz+lxfe, using awesomewm and when I launch pcmanfm, it never displays (but there is a process running) |
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| 13:06.15 | vatzec | Wulf: ^ |
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| 13:07.06 | vatzec | Maybe kernel tries to prevent it from doing something harmful to the device? |
| 13:07.47 | vatzec | Also, this code is a bit different from grub-1.98, on which I was working. :-S |
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| 13:08.45 | Seb | keith105: it depends on your shell settings on the remote server |
| 13:08.53 | vatzec | What also happens is that process_device doesn't even get called by that hook("/dev/sda",0) -- I've tried putting printfs at the beginning of process_device, and they don't get executed. When the OS sees the 'hook( "/dev/sda", 0 )", it kills it. |
| 13:08.54 | Wulf | vatzec: when the kernel kills a process, it usually writes a message. |
| 13:09.01 | vatzec | All it says is "Killed" |
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| 13:09.14 | kampala | Hello! I'm sorry to interrupt but I need some help with remote Debian re-install. And I would appreciate any help with it. The thing is I have dedicated server with Debian. And now I need to reinstall it on software RAID. In Fedora it's possible with VNC and PXE. But I couldn't find any documentation of how I can do it in Debian without DHCP (which I can't use because server is in DC net and not in LAN). Maybe there is any way to do i |
| 13:09.14 | kampala | in advance |
| 13:09.27 | keith105 | Seb: thanks that is starting to make sense, im logged in to debian as root, i'll take a look... |
| 13:09.47 | vatzec | Wulf: Is there any way to monitor signals that are sent? |
| 13:09.56 | vatzec | Such as dbus-monitor? |
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| 13:10.35 | Wulf | vatzec: not that I know of |
| 13:10.39 | vatzec | :-< |
| 13:10.47 | vatzec | So there's no way to determine which process' sent that signal? |
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| 13:11.37 | Wulf | vatzec: look at the kernel log. |
| 13:12.07 | vatzec | That's it! |
| 13:12.10 | vatzec | It's there! :-) |
| 13:12.29 | vatzec | That's one huge leap for mankind |
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| 13:12.50 | keith105 | i checked the remote server shell settings, it's /bin/bash, so not sure why it fails to show the server name on gnome term tab |
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| 13:13.49 | vatzec | Wulf: denied resource overstep by requesting 4096 for RLIMIT_CORE against limit 0 for /usr/sbin/grub-mkdevicemap[grub-mkdevicema:30423] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /bin/bash[bash:30409] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0 |
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| 13:14.51 | vatzec | I'm running -grsec by the way |
| 13:15.40 | project2501b | no security in .gr |
| 13:15.41 | Wulf | vatzec: it's trying to dump core. |
| 13:15.53 | Wulf | vatzec: there must be a bug elsewhere |
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| 13:15.55 | vatzec | Yeah |
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| 13:17.20 | boudiccas | anyone any good at recovering a backup drive which was originally NTFS an dis now ext3, maybe 4 and has been overwritten by / . any sensible ideas tried , as i desperately need the info off the backup drive as its got all my passwords ext in. please help if you can? |
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| 13:17.38 | vatzec | Wulf: http://pastebin.com/1LhGrAre Here's the complete error |
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| 13:18.45 | boudiccas | s/ext/ect |
| 13:18.55 | twobitsprite | boudiccas: you mean, you used to have a backupdrive which was NTFS, but you accidentally formatted it with ext3 and put a linux root on it, and you want to restore the NTFS data that was on it before it was reformated? |
| 13:19.17 | boudiccas | yes twobitsprite |
| 13:19.43 | twobitsprite | boudiccas: I think that data is gone... |
| 13:19.45 | petemc | boudiccas: first thing i would do is take an image of the drive and work on that |
| 13:20.32 | twobitsprite | I'm pretty sure the superblock overwrites the file table of the ntfs filesystem |
| 13:20.41 | petemc | that doesnt mean the data is gone |
| 13:20.42 | boudiccas | petemc, how do you do that? its my first day with debian, as i've just moved over from centos |
| 13:20.45 | Zambezi | Can anyone help me out to enable my second monitor? Squeeze, Nvidia drivers (from repos). Only one monitor enable checking in xrandr, nvidia-settings. Both monitors got same resolution. They are identical. |
| 13:21.00 | petemc | boudiccas: there are many methods, partimage is one |
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| 13:21.45 | thinksteve | Afaik nvidia in squeeze does not support xrandr yet, you have to use nvidia-settings |
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| 13:23.22 | Zambezi | thinksteve: But nvidia-settings won't enable the second. I'm clearly missing something in the configurationfile for Xorg. |
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| 13:25.41 | vatzec | Wulf: But it's definitely the kernel blocking it. Thanks! At least now I know what to search for :-) |
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| 13:26.03 | U-dash | hi there |
| 13:26.17 | U-dash | should I have a question about how to use microphone under skype? |
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| 13:26.40 | Iridos | all I needed to add was Virtual 2880 2880 to have a big enough desktop... the rest was autodetected |
| 13:27.02 | Zambezi | U-dash: Can't your friend hear you good enough? |
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| 13:27.43 | Iridos | I think he shouldn't have a question |
| 13:28.21 | Zambezi | Iridos: You're using Nvidia? |
| 13:28.24 | twobitsprite | !tell U-dash about ask |
| 13:28.41 | U-dash | so I installed Debian 6.0 to my sister |
| 13:29.07 | U-dash | her pc has an ASUS mother board with integrated Intel Atom D525 with integrated audio |
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| 13:29.28 | U-dash | we have issues with skype when try to use the mic |
| 13:29.29 | Iridos | Zambezi, no, fglrx driver... just saying, I thought this goes _all_ without xorg options |
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| 13:30.09 | MrFrood | U-dash: you need to be more specific |
| 13:30.20 | twobitsprite | U-dash: issues? |
| 13:30.42 | U-dash | no sound when trying to use skype with microphone |
| 13:30.48 | U-dash | alsa is on |
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| 13:30.53 | Zambezi | U-dash: Checked mic boost? |
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| 13:31.09 | twobitsprite | U-dash: checked mic volume or if it's muted in alsa? |
| 13:31.16 | U-dash | no mic boost in alsamixer |
| 13:31.23 | U-dash | yes, I chacked |
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| 13:31.32 | U-dash | mic volume is on the top |
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| 13:31.55 | Zambezi | U-dash: And mic boost? To the right of mic in alsamixer for me. |
| 13:32.02 | U-dash | but in capture mic has only volume, it is not selectable as default capture device |
| 13:32.21 | U-dash | there is no mic boost |
| 13:32.21 | MrFrood | !tell U-dash about alsactl |
| 13:32.21 | bruta | sourcelist |
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| 13:32.29 | bruta | wheres the bot? |
| 13:32.49 | U-dash | ok, I'll try alsactl |
| 13:32.50 | U-dash | thanks |
| 13:33.00 | MrFrood | bruta: you forgot the bang |
| 13:33.04 | twobitsprite | !sourcelist |
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| 13:33.14 | MrFrood | U-dash: may not work but worth a try |
| 13:33.35 | bruta | ./msg fajita !sourcelist |
| 13:33.45 | bruta | she dont want to talk |
| 13:33.47 | bruta | :( |
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| 13:34.29 | bruta | ./msg fajita !sourcelists |
| 13:34.29 | mengu_ | hi. is there anyone managed to connect a palo alto vpn? |
| 13:34.33 | MrFrood | !tell bruta about selftell |
| 13:34.55 | bruta | she need some kisses |
| 13:35.30 | MrFrood | bruta: you should have a message in another buffer from the bot |
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| 13:36.01 | bruta | MrFrood: pvt |
| 13:36.12 | Bushmills | bruta, this is not #httpd, where fajita resides |
| 13:36.14 | t67 | well, I used my l33t skillz to fix my VPS |
| 13:36.45 | bruta | Bushmills: i know |
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| 13:37.12 | bruta | Bushmills: thats why i am talkin @pvt |
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| 13:37.18 | bruta | but she dont answer |
| 13:37.18 | t67 | can the bot insult people? |
| 13:37.30 | t67 | !tell MrFrood he is fat |
| 13:37.39 | abrotman | leave the bot alone |
| 13:37.56 | bruta | abrotman: no! i love fajita! |
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| 13:38.12 | abrotman | leave the bot alone |
| 13:38.25 | bruta | abrotman: no! i love fajita! |
| 13:38.34 | MrFrood | is 6'5" and 13 stone (use google to translate :-P) |
| 13:38.57 | bruta | Err http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/main Sources 403 Forbidden |
| 13:38.59 | bruta | ? |
| 13:39.10 | t67 | ha it's too secure for you |
| 13:39.37 | abrotman | the line is probably malformed |
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| 13:41.30 | bruta | abrotman: Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze Release.gpfg |
| 13:41.39 | abrotman | so? |
| 13:41.56 | bruta | why ign? |
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| 13:43.04 | Zambezi | Iridos, thinksteve: I have absolutely no idea why it's working now. I did some changing and monitors got cloned. So I though, hey I save this configuration file in nvidia-settings. Restart Xorg. At least both working. After restarting Xorg, they work seperately. Backup xorg.conf NOW! |
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| 13:53.15 | twobitsprite | bruta: http://www.debian-administration.org/users/JulienV/weblog/3 |
| 13:54.42 | vatzec | Wulf: Thank you a lot, I've almost solved the issue. I didn't get into which grsec switch I have to use to make it work, but I'll keep that in mind for the future. Thank you! |
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| 14:02.20 | trolliaroulis | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.39 | twobitsprite | why? |
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| 14:02.57 | trolliaroulis | it is chat moderator poll |
| 14:03.15 | twobitsprite | moderators for #debian? |
| 14:03.51 | Wulf | trolliaroulis: I can't read it |
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| 14:05.19 | t67 | hot to know how many packages are installed |
| 14:05.37 | Wulf | dpkg -l|grep -c ^ii |
| 14:05.37 | dpkg | no idea, Wulf |
| 14:05.57 | twobitsprite | ... |wc -l |
| 14:05.58 | Wulf | dpkg: shut up. Stupid bot. |
| 14:05.58 | dpkg | Wulf: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 14:06.21 | Wulf | twobitsprite: man grep, /-c |
| 14:06.27 | gnugr | trolliaroulis: get #debian-offtopic |
| 14:06.36 | twobitsprite | Wulf: yep, just noticed that :P |
| 14:06.44 | twobitsprite | <-- tired |
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| 14:07.38 | trolliaroulis | dpkg lol |
| 14:07.38 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 14:07.58 | abrotman | trolliaroulis: do you need Debian help? |
| 14:08.02 | trolliaroulis | dpkg wow you are typing so fast |
| 14:08.03 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
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| 14:08.23 | abrotman | wonders how he'll fare on that poll ... |
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| 14:10.38 | Wulf | fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied |
| 14:10.53 | Wulf | crw------- 1 root fuse 10, 229 Apr 19 16:04 /dev/fuse |
| 14:10.59 | Wulf | what might be wrong? |
| 14:11.17 | justin_ | Wulf: user not in fuse group and the perms are wrong |
| 14:11.22 | justin_ | crw-rw---- 1 root fuse 10, 229 Mar 7 11:49 /dev/fuse |
| 14:11.23 | Wulf | justin_: I'm in the group |
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| 14:11.47 | Wulf | justin_: I didn't change anything and the docs didn't say to change perms on the device |
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| 14:11.51 | thinksteve | Wulf: As you can see the group is not allowed to do anything with the device. |
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| 14:12.41 | Wulf | thinksteve: sure. but fusermount is suid root |
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| 14:13.36 | thinksteve | suid is ugly. Modify group permissions instead. |
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| 14:15.35 | rutski | does anyone know how to change the (rather ugly) starts-and-rockets GDM theme that comes with squeeze by default? |
| 14:15.50 | rutski | I can't seem to find anything in the system preferences |
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| 14:16.24 | dvs | rutski: In your desktop environment |
| 14:16.32 | rutski | dvs: yeah? |
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| 14:17.21 | dvs | rutski: That's usually a desktop theme. |
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| 14:17.51 | rutski | I'm confused, exactly which menu are you suggesting I go to? |
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| 14:18.27 | dvs | rutski: What desktop environment are you using? |
| 14:18.35 | rutski | gnome |
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| 14:19.16 | dvs | rutski: Ok. I'm not using GNOME right now. |
| 14:20.31 | bruta | everything is ignored (Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.1a _Squeeze_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20110322-15:11] squeeze Release.gpg) how do i fix? |
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| 14:21.32 | babilen | rutski: You want to change the gdm3 theme *not* the gnome theme, or? |
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| 14:21.47 | rutski | balsamo: right, I want to change the gdm3 theme |
| 14:21.53 | babilen | bruta: Ignore it -- it is not an error. Do you actually run into problems? |
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| 14:21.58 | lynx | Rima tide |
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| 14:22.01 | lynx | Anyone on? |
| 14:22.10 | dvs | nope |
| 14:22.10 | rutski | it's not letting me install gdm-themes either, it says it would need to install the package "gdm", which seems to be different from "gdm3" (which is what I have) |
| 14:22.10 | thinksteve | nope |
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| 14:22.16 | dvs | heh |
| 14:22.20 | twobitsprite | bruta: ign means apt doesn't need to download the packages list because it already has the latest |
| 14:22.23 | babilen | rutski: one second. that came up the other day ... |
| 14:22.34 | bruta | twobitsprite: nice. tks. |
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| 14:22.45 | Guest66785 | What are some good items to change to change a machine ID other than /etc/hostname (the host name) and domain in resolv.conf? |
| 14:22.48 | rutski | babilen: ah, sweet :) |
| 14:23.21 | lynx` | What are some good items to change to change a machine ID other than /etc/hostname (the host name) and domain in resolv.conf? |
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| 14:23.41 | justin_ | lynx`: grep old_hostname -r /etc |
| 14:23.42 | twobitsprite | lynx`: /etc/hosts |
| 14:23.43 | lynx` | Like in Windows it would be DigitalProductID in the registry, volume ID, and computer name |
| 14:23.57 | lynx` | alright thanks |
| 14:23.59 | lynx` | I guess username too |
| 14:24.07 | twobitsprite | username? |
| 14:24.26 | bruta | twobitsprite: and how do i fix this? rs W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 403 Forbidden [IP: 35.9.37.225 80] |
| 14:24.41 | lynx` | Hey you rubbity dib dab |
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| 14:25.13 | babilen | rutski: http://www.khattam.info/howto-change-gdm-3-theme-and-wallpaper-2010-11-14.html (not sure if there is a better option) -- You might want to ask in #debian-gtk on irc.debian.org |
| 14:25.31 | babilen | rutski: Make that #debian-gnome :) |
| 14:25.34 | twobitsprite | bruta: I don't know... works for me |
| 14:25.51 | rutski | awesome; /me joins |
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| 14:26.03 | babilen | rutski: If you figure out a different method I would be happy if you let me know. |
| 14:26.11 | rutski | babilen: indeed :) |
| 14:26.14 | erAbuelo | re |
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| 14:27.09 | kenifanying | hi all, can i select more than one time servers in "Time and date settings"? |
| 14:28.17 | justin_ | kenifanying: if you manually edit /etc/ntp.conf I bet you can |
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| 14:31.32 | kenifanying | justin_, thanks, but may be i should ask "it's necessary to choose more than one time servers ?" |
| 14:32.00 | justin_ | kenifanying: It's not really necessary to touch those settings at all |
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| 14:32.19 | kenifanying | justin_, ok ,thanks again. |
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| 14:32.26 | justin_ | I only change my time server because we have a local ntp server, almost everyone else is fine using the public ones |
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| 14:35.39 | Roenbaeck_iPhone | Are there any good resources available on getting maximum performance out of a SSD? There seems to be a lot of myths floating around judging by googles search results. |
| 14:37.58 | schofld | if you find out abourt SSD performance i am interested |
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| 14:38.15 | U-dash | hi again |
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| 14:38.31 | U-dash | how can I remove the "other" section in LXDE menu? |
| 14:38.50 | schofld | Mac OSX is capped at like 150mb/sec because that part of the os is very old |
| 14:39.55 | twobitsprite | schofld: mischan? |
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| 14:40.32 | schofld | twobitsprite: mischan? what do you mean |
| 14:40.48 | twobitsprite | schofld: did you mean to type that in this channel? If so, who are you talking to? |
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| 14:41.40 | schofld | about the SSD... it was aimed at Roenbaeck_iPhone |
| 14:42.31 | twobitsprite | schofld: ohh... I was confused because you were talking about OSX when noone seemed to be talking about OSX |
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| 14:45.21 | schofld | twobitsprite: wat i meant to say is that i would like to know about SSD performance on Debian Linux. I think that perhaps there might be some performance issues with SSDs on Debian,Linux since Mac OSX has some. Hence the comment on macs SSD performace cap of 150mb/s (or something like that) |
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| 14:45.39 | Roenbaeck_iPhone | I'm getting about 300mb/s now, using ext4 with trim, erase block aligned partitions, noop elevator, noatime, write cache enabled |
| 14:45.49 | schofld | twobitsprite: didnt mean to be of topic |
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| 14:46.07 | U-dash | resolved |
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| 14:46.43 | justin_ | Roenbaeck_iPhone: That's terrible. You should go back to regular drives and I'll take that SSD off your hands for free |
| 14:47.07 | Roenbaeck_iPhone | Haha :) |
| 14:47.19 | Iridos | justin_, I was just going to offer that! |
| 14:48.41 | Iridos | anyway, we share your grief about that lousy performance and understand your bitterness... |
| 14:48.46 | Iridos | so let's move on |
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| 14:52.00 | schofld | Haha Im not so bitter since the SSD i have is capped just around those values since it is a shitty/cheap one. Thanks for the sympathy. |
| 14:53.29 | rickbol | who crapped (i.e.,what brand of ssd)? |
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| 14:54.19 | Iridos | the question is more if you should use journaled FS or not on SSD and if ext4 has any advantage over ext3 in that regard |
| 14:55.24 | schofld | Iridos: just try and cry |
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| 14:56.23 | karlpinc | schofld: The only thing you need to worry about is 4k block alignment of the partitions. |
| 14:56.35 | pipeline | block alignment is voodoo |
| 14:56.42 | pipeline | you don't know what the alignment of the underlying device is |
| 14:56.47 | pipeline | because the vendors don't talk about it |
| 14:56.55 | pipeline | so how can you know precisely what to align your partitions to |
| 14:57.13 | schofld | pipeline: agree... hence "just try and cry" |
| 14:57.19 | t67 | how to find out the kernel version? |
| 14:57.27 | t67 | I guess I should ask in #linux |
| 14:57.37 | pipeline | t67: uname -r |
| 14:58.07 | pipeline | t67: that is a totally acceptable question here. General linux questions are on-topic, but you will usually receive debian-specific replies. |
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| 14:59.35 | pipeline | rickbol: sandforce markets two kinds of SSD chipset. Both chipsets are physically similary, but one has a cap on IOs per second and the other does not. These caps are not enforced inside the chipset, they're enforced by the vendor. ISTR every brand using sandforce chips except OCZ honors the cap. |
| 14:59.49 | rickbol | pipeline: i just read up on ssd "block alignment". didn't understand, except that it can make a diff, and you wanna get it offset properly from the "top" |
| 14:59.54 | pipeline | rickbol: obviously there are mnay other brands of SSD chipset than sandforce |
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| 15:00.21 | pipeline | rickbol: don't worry too much about block alignment. The only way to verify that you have the alignment set correctly is to do some heavy duty empirical testing. In my opinion, it's not worth the effort :P |
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| 15:01.17 | twobitsprite | pipeline: that and the testing will wear on your brand new SSD |
| 15:01.26 | pipeline | twobitsprite: who gives a damn |
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| 15:01.31 | karlpinc | Why isn't it safe to assume that the first 4k block starts at 0? |
| 15:01.32 | zero1234 | does anybody know the netstat command to see what process is using what port? |
| 15:01.48 | justin_ | zero1234: -plunt |
| 15:01.53 | Kream | If I make a 3-disk raid1, can I remove a disk later? |
| 15:01.57 | petemc | -p needs root |
| 15:02.00 | Kream | and make it into a 2-disk raid1? |
| 15:02.05 | pipeline | karlpinc: the block you're concerned about is the 128k erase block in the underlying devices. How do you know your vendor doesn't have an erase block starting at 4k to improve performance with default configurations ? |
| 15:02.06 | zero1234 | justin_: thanks |
| 15:02.08 | twobitsprite | pipeline: wearing on SSD is a real issue... obviously people care of filesystem devs wouldn't be working on way to spread the wear |
| 15:02.09 | pipeline | Kream: with mdadm, yes |
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| 15:02.20 | rickbol | just put a samsung in this hp 2140 netbook. it's bios doesnt expose much control over the hw, so i'm not sure how to evaluate the ssd perf |
| 15:02.40 | pipeline | twobitsprite: the SSD firmware handles that. You could write the same physical block number hundreds of millions of times to no ill effect, because the firmware will happily relocate blocks. |
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| 15:03.02 | pipeline | twobitsprite: filesystem developers are working on flash-friendly filesystems for cheaper devices that don't have complex flash controllers or firmware -- e.g. embedded use |
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| 15:03.15 | karlpinc | twobitsprite: Although that's part of the problem. If the fs could handle the wear leveling then it could do smart things. |
| 15:03.17 | twobitsprite | pipeline: ahh... my mistake |
| 15:03.23 | pipeline | twobitsprite: that is to say, flash wear leveling in software is a hack to save money on hardware. On a consumer SSD you have already paid for the hardware solution :) |
| 15:03.57 | twobitsprite | I see |
| 15:04.08 | karlpinc | pipeline: Except that the hardware solution is fixed, and may not be optimized for the fs in question. |
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| 15:04.27 | mads- | Hi |
| 15:04.38 | pipeline | karlpinc: garbage |
| 15:05.05 | twobitsprite | yeah, I'm not sure what sort of fs specific optimization you could that would improve wear leveling |
| 15:05.11 | karlpinc | pipeline: If you so so. |
| 15:05.39 | pipeline | in theory you could use a very large memory cache to improve performance by doing more erase-block optimization |
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| 15:05.47 | pipeline | but in practice, the expensive SSD vendors already do that in hardware |
| 15:06.01 | TheWarden | Hi, I just recently installed Debian for the first time. I want to find my local ip address, in the past on other distros I've used ifconfig command but when I type this I get command not found. What does Debian use? |
| 15:06.09 | pipeline | the major difference between a cheap SSD and an expensive one, in 2011, isn't SLC vs MLC -- MLC has won -- but rather the buffering and memory available to the ssd controller. |
| 15:06.17 | twobitsprite | TheWarden: /sbin/ifconfgi |
| 15:06.23 | twobitsprite | TheWarden: /sbin/ifconfig even |
| 15:06.27 | pipeline | TheWarden: ifconfig isn't in your path as a regular user |
| 15:06.27 | pipeline | TheWarden: it's in /sbin |
| 15:06.37 | pipeline | TheWarden: echo $PATH, note /sbin isn't in there |
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| 15:07.22 | rickbol | TheWarden: gotta be root |
| 15:07.25 | TheWarden | ahh thanks everyone, I should have checked my path before asking :). |
| 15:07.29 | karlpinc | pipeline: BTW, when read and write speeds are asymetric then 4k block size alignment matters because a write operation on a mis-aligned fs will cause a read of 2 underlying 4k blocks and then a write of both. At minimum this halves the write performance, at least with non-ssd drives. With ssd drives it may not matter so much given the large erase size. |
| 15:07.32 | pipeline | rickbol: you don't have to be root to invoke ifconfig |
| 15:07.49 | pipeline | rickbol: just /sbin is in root's PATH by default, and it isn't in your regular user's path (by default) |
| 15:08.46 | pipeline | karlpinc: non-SSD drives have non-mysterious alignment and are easy to understand, since their lies to the BIOS about their internal structure are likely to reflect their actual internal structure (e.g. the cylinder boundaries should line up to actual internal block boundaries, even if they are not real cylinders) |
| 15:09.05 | rickbol | pipeline: ok. i just noticed that sqwz reports "<command> not found" sometimes when your not root, don't recall lenny doing this |
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| 15:09.16 | pipeline | karlpinc: the same is not true of SSDs -- the numbers reported to the BIOS are wholly arbitrary. You have *no idea* what sector numbers align to which erase block numbers unless your vendor told you. And they never do. |
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| 15:09.32 | pipeline | rickbol: it's a matter of your PATH variable |
| 15:09.49 | rickbol | aso |
| 15:10.08 | pipeline | rickbol: root's PATH includes /sbin and /usr/sbin by default. Your non-root user doesn't. I routinely add /sbin and /usr/sbin to my nonprivileged user PATH, for convenience. Executing sbin commands as a non-root user won't hurt anything, just most of them don't work :) |
| 15:10.54 | Iridos | all previous debians acted that way, afaik, also all other distributions I'm aware of... but it's easy enough to add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path of all users, so someone installing the system with whatever distro could have done that |
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| 15:11.49 | pipeline | karlpinc: the erase block alignment is actually *very important* to performance |
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| 15:12.12 | pipeline | karlpinc: because cheap SSDs have very little cache, and so very little ability to combine writes to save time on erase blocsk |
| 15:12.28 | pipeline | karlpinc: so it would be hugely desirable to have your blocks aligned. Too bad it's such a pain in the ass. |
| 15:12.48 | rickbol | i used lenny w/lxde and it had a root terminal I habitually used. now on sqwz w/awesome and had to add user to sudo |
| 15:13.08 | pipeline | rickbol: then add /sbin and /usr/sbin to your default PATH in ~/.bashrc or whatever. Convenient. |
| 15:13.24 | rickbol | i will. THX! |
| 15:13.26 | sickgut | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.29 | pieter__ | I made a package with depends on python-tz, but when I try to install it(dpkg -i) I get: depends on python-tz; however: |
| 15:13.29 | pieter__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.37 | pieter__ | shouldnt it install them? |
| 15:13.49 | pieter__ | or do i have to specify something in another script? |
| 15:13.49 | sickgut | how do i make my usb stick that has debian on it nowe bootable? |
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| 15:16.10 | S4RY | sickgut, I am trying to figure out the same thing .. it might be somewhere in Debian wiki page. |
| 15:16.27 | gnugr | sickgut: read this, i hope it will help you: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 |
| 15:17.10 | abrotman | !ig |
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| 15:17.10 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Squeeze (6.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual . See also <errata> <firmware images> <installer firmware> <release notes>. |
| 15:17.14 | abrotman | it's in the manual |
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| 15:17.35 | sickgut | everyone tells me if i want persistant usb debian then just install debian to usb. i knew debian doesnt setup the usb to be bootable like that but everyone told me over and over again that it works, i think they obviously have never actually done it |
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| 15:18.46 | sickgut | ]and i dont want a debian install from usb setup i want actual debian running on usb that i can save things too and it keeps it |
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| 15:18.56 | masterkorp | hello, i was updating to squeeze and i got this : dpkg: fail writting on database 'libtext-wrapi18n-perl' a '/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device |
| 15:19.14 | abrotman | masterkorp: your disk is full |
| 15:19.20 | sickgut | or partition |
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| 15:19.24 | abrotman | sickgut: /msg dpkg usb install |
| 15:19.40 | masterkorp | does this means i am out of free spoe space, i was not even close to get it full |
| 15:19.52 | sickgut | omg no |
| 15:19.55 | abrotman | masterkorp: df -h ; df -i .. pastebin that |
| 15:19.59 | sickgut | i dont want to install debian from a usb stick |
| 15:20.00 | abrotman | sickgut: read the whole factoid |
| 15:20.08 | sickgut | i want d ebian runnin g on usb stick |
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| 15:20.16 | abrotman | okay .. then don't .. |
| 15:20.20 | sickgut | the actual os running on a usb stick that is bootable |
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| 15:20.40 | Bburn | Hello |
| 15:20.44 | Bburn | I got a problem |
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| 15:20.50 | Iridos | sickgut, I don't see why that shouldn't work. The usb is just another device and if the computer can boot from it, it can boot from it... the problem I see is that it will have changing device names. There are actually iso-image equivalents of debian-live for usb sticks... (http://www.debian.org/CD/live/), you could put one of those on |
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| 15:21.05 | Bburn | When I do "du -hc --max-depth=1" in /, I get a total of 5.0G in used space |
| 15:21.09 | sickgut | dpkg>You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. <- -- --- --- i dont want to do this i want to run debian as an os off of the usb stick |
| 15:21.09 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 15:21.20 | gnugr | sickgut: try " zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdX " and then to be bootable use this: " mkdosfs /dev/sdX1 " |
| 15:21.21 | sickgut | everyone say s it should wor k but it doesnt |
| 15:21.23 | Bburn | But when I do "df -h" I get 84G in used space |
| 15:21.29 | Iridos | sickgut, and he was referring to the plop boot-manager that the factoid refers to |
| 15:21.31 | Bburn | I have to reboot to get it back to the real size |
| 15:21.34 | Bburn | Whats the matter ? |
| 15:21.35 | abrotman | sickgut: then what about it doesn't work? |
| 15:21.39 | abrotman | gnugr: not what he's trying to do |
| 15:21.48 | masterkorp | abrotman: sorry i cant pastebin, both pastebinit and firefox are broken due to the update |
| 15:21.52 | schofld | has anyone got any experiance with cloud hosted debian ?? |
| 15:22.02 | catsup | lol |
| 15:22.06 | catsup | there's no such thing |
| 15:22.19 | abrotman | masterkorp: do any of the lines say 100% ? |
| 15:22.21 | masterkorp | but yeah my / partioin is full in df -h |
| 15:22.23 | Iridos | cloud hosting == twitter? |
| 15:22.25 | Iridos | :-P |
| 15:22.29 | abrotman | masterkorp: that's why it's dying |
| 15:22.32 | masterkorp | on df -i no |
| 15:22.37 | S4RY | can anyone successfully log-in to http://explore.live.com/windows-live-messenger-web-im-using?os=other OR http://webmessenger.yahoo.com/ from in Debian squeeze ! |
| 15:22.39 | petemc | schofld: lots of people use debian vps |
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| 15:22.47 | catsup | cloud=hosted |
| 15:22.52 | sickgut | installing debian to usb doesnt give you a bootable usb OS running on the usb stick, it installs the grub to the hdd not the usb <------- in answer to your question what doesnt work about it |
| 15:22.55 | masterkorp | abrotman: can i remove some pacakges ffrom the apt cache ? |
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| 15:23.00 | catsup | just a buzzword |
| 15:23.09 | abrotman | masterkorp: sure you can |
| 15:23.16 | abrotman | masterkorp: or clean up old logs in /var/ |
| 15:23.32 | abrotman | sickgut: you can choose which device to install it to |
| 15:23.36 | schofld | catsup: cloud is a little different from dedicated |
| 15:23.39 | masterkorp | hmmm.. thats actually a good idea |
| 15:23.45 | masterkorp | i might remove them all |
| 15:23.52 | sickgut | BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html <--------- my bios can boot from usb i do it all the time with other usb linux distros |
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| 15:24.08 | sickgut | abrotman how can i choose that? |
| 15:24.13 | abrotman | masterkorp: i'd probably start with the .gz ones :) |
| 15:24.27 | abrotman | sickgut: i believe it asks you which device to install grub to |
| 15:24.27 | catsup | schofld: a lot of things are different from 'dedicated', but none of them are 'cloud' |
| 15:24.36 | sickgut | nope it didnt |
| 15:24.43 | abrotman | catsup: i think you mean 'mainframe'? |
| 15:24.43 | masterkorp | abrotman: yeah, but not much saving on that |
| 15:24.45 | abrotman | sickgut: try expert mode |
| 15:24.50 | abrotman | masterkorp: is it enough to finish ? |
| 15:24.55 | Iridos | smokes a joint, creating a huge "cloud" |
| 15:24.56 | sickgut | ok thanks ill try now |
| 15:25.03 | sickgut | thank s or help |
| 15:25.26 | Iridos | sickgut, and why don't you use the debian-live image for usb? |
| 15:25.34 | gnugr | pokes Iridos |
| 15:25.54 | Iridos | \o/ |
| 15:25.59 | masterkorp | abrotman: hmm, i am trying, once i finish i will remove the old package and probaly resize the partition |
| 15:26.09 | catsup | cloud doesn't mean virtual machine; that's just not how people use it. so the distinction between virtual machines and bare metal won't give meaning to 'cloud' |
| 15:26.14 | Iridos | why does one answer anything anyway? He didn't seem to have read more than half |
| 15:26.16 | masterkorp | abrotman: oh i guess not |
| 15:26.32 | masterkorp | can i apt-cache clean ? |
| 15:26.45 | abrotman | you can .. but not a great idea .. that would remove the packges you have to sitll install |
| 15:26.56 | masterkorp | abrotman: i tought that |
| 15:27.05 | masterkorp | so any suggestions ? |
| 15:27.31 | abrotman | i told you .. remove the .gz logs |
| 15:27.38 | abrotman | how much space is left now? |
| 15:27.42 | masterkorp | abrotman: alredy did that |
| 15:27.54 | abrotman | or look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ .. how many 'linux-image*' packages are in there? |
| 15:28.10 | schofld | catsup: that is semantics. |
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| 15:28.36 | masterkorp | abrotman: 3 |
| 15:28.58 | abrotman | masterkorp: rm /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.26* ? |
| 15:29.19 | DotHack | i´m having big troubles copying data from an ext3 partition mounted from a usb disk |
| 15:29.27 | masterkorp | abrotman: i only have the .32 packages :( |
| 15:29.45 | DotHack | im getting all sorts of kernels oopses |
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| 15:29.59 | DotHack | BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at |
| 15:30.05 | Iridos | gnugr, I'm positive that that's the way the term "cloud computing" was invented! |
| 15:30.09 | abrotman | masterkorp: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/*lenny* | wc -l ..how many ? |
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| 15:30.13 | catsup | schofld: yes it is |
| 15:30.36 | catsup | schofld: from the very beginning it was a discussion of semantics... the meaning of the word 'cloud'... or lack thereof |
| 15:30.43 | TheWarden | Not sure if this is the correct channel, but I have VirtualBox running Debian and I wish to connect to it via RDP. I enabled RDP in Debian and enabled Remote Display Server in VirtualBox port 3389 however it doesn't work. |
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| 15:31.00 | TheWarden | I'm able to ping the debian system in VirtualBox from another system. |
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| 15:31.02 | schofld | catsup: you did understand what i meant though and that is all i wanted to convey |
| 15:31.05 | catsup | schofld: in any case, if you want help with xen, say xen, if it's vserver, say vserver, if it's kvm, ... |
| 15:31.09 | catsup | no |
| 15:31.11 | masterkorp | abrotman: 39 :D |
| 15:31.14 | catsup | 'cloud' fails to convey |
| 15:31.17 | catsup | that's the whole point |
| 15:31.26 | abrotman | masterkorp: you can likely safely remove those |
| 15:32.06 | schofld | catsup: educate me. What terminology should i use to describe ex a rackspace cloud hosted debian server |
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| 15:32.29 | abrotman | moves schofld and catsup to #debian-offtopic |
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| 15:32.52 | catsup | i don't know what rackspace is offering so i don't know what to call it |
| 15:32.52 | TheWarden | What could I be missing? I even truned off host firewall just in case but made no difference. |
| 15:33.01 | petemc | vps seems to annoy people less than cloud |
| 15:33.49 | schofld | ok will keep to vps... i fold end of discussion |
| 15:34.02 | tharkun | TheWarden: follow the usual suspects netstat -pantu and nmap from the client to the server |
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| 15:35.02 | catsup | TheWarden: telnet localhost 3389 ? |
| 15:35.25 | catsup | erm wait |
| 15:35.29 | abrotman | masterkorp: did you get enough space? |
| 15:35.30 | catsup | the server is in the virtualbox |
| 15:35.48 | catsup | you probably need to configure a tap device |
| 15:35.59 | catsup | the default probably uses NAT and a built-in DHCP server |
| 15:36.02 | masterkorp | abrotman: its installing, but idk if its engough |
| 15:36.23 | catsup | not that i know anything about virtualbox. but that is the situation with qemu/kvm. it may be similar. |
| 15:38.04 | Bburn | Why when I remove a files the used % does not change in /dev/sda1 |
| 15:38.11 | Bburn | while typing df -h |
| 15:38.35 | catsup | maybe they are hardlinked or maybe you didn't remove enough files for the % figure to reach a new value |
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| 15:38.49 | catsup | enough data |
| 15:38.58 | Bburn | It was enought data, a big file 4go |
| 15:39.01 | Bburn | enough* |
| 15:39.07 | catsup | was it hardlinked |
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| 15:39.11 | Bburn | hardlinked ? |
| 15:39.13 | Bburn | I'm not sure |
| 15:39.16 | Bburn | how to find out |
| 15:39.24 | catsup | do you have an 'ls -l' listing of the file |
| 15:39.49 | Bburn | I can try removing another file |
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| 15:40.11 | masterkorp | abrotman: is the grub updating the last step right ? |
| 15:40.21 | Bburn | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 296818555 2011-04-18 13:18 [Epic-Raws] Tiger & Bunny - 03 (1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 |
| 15:40.24 | Bburn | thats linked ? |
| 15:41.05 | TheWarden | tharkun: mm |
| 15:41.38 | TheWarden | catsup: I'm using bridged, however I also have a dedicated debian box just installed and that too I'm not able to remote desktop into. |
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| 15:42.03 | TheWarden | catsup: again though I can ping it no problem. |
| 15:42.14 | catsup | telnet to port? |
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| 15:43.32 | Gijs | Hello people |
| 15:43.44 | Gijs | I got a big mysql backup on my machine |
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| 15:43.49 | TheWarden | catsup: I go to System > Preferences > Remote Desktop and check on Allow other users to view your desktop and allow other users to control your desktop, then set a password leaving the other two options under security unchecked. and then clicked closed. |
| 15:44.09 | catsup | check telnet to port |
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| 15:44.21 | Gijs | But i need to remove some texts of it, and the text needs some kind of wildcart, i need to remove: "LOCK TABLES `*****` WRITE;" where ***** can be anything |
| 15:44.26 | Gijs | Is there any method i can do this? |
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| 15:45.02 | TheWarden | catsup: as for telnet well I'm on Windows 7 now and it appears there is no telnet so I pulled up PuTTY portable selected telnet and port 3389 and it just fails then closes. |
| 15:45.20 | jhutchins_lt | Gijs: Several tools were suggested to you yesterday. |
| 15:45.33 | catsup | Gijs: it depends on the database system but there is probably a table you can select table names from |
| 15:45.40 | Leoneof | hi, is there a way to ignore "The following packages will be REMOVED:" , i don't want to remove installed packages |
| 15:45.43 | catsup | or something |
| 15:46.15 | cahoot | Leoneof: don't run sid? wait? |
| 15:46.18 | fbs | is it possbile to install debian on an existing encrypted partition? |
| 15:46.21 | Gijs | What do you mean? |
| 15:46.22 | jhutchins_lt | Leoneof: If youre using aptitude you can tell it no and it will suggest an alternative if one exists. |
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| 15:47.24 | fbs | i cant open the encrypted partition, only overwrite it |
| 15:47.26 | catsup | Gijs: ok, i misinterpreted your question, if you are editing sql source. i thought you wanted to edit a sql database |
| 15:47.49 | Bburn | OMG WHY |
| 15:48.09 | TheWarden | catsup: mmm no log file to show an error when telneting.. damn |
| 15:48.31 | catsup | but it opens up the port? |
| 15:48.39 | TheWarden | this should be easy to do RDP to Debian, must be something easy I didn't change |
| 15:49.15 | catsup | if it opens the port, it may be client-server incompatibility |
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| 15:51.00 | tharkun | TheWarden: have you checked the open ports on debian? using netstat ? |
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| 15:51.37 | tharkun | After that check that there is noone in between client and server |
| 15:52.01 | TheWarden | catsup: mmm I eneabled telnet on windows 7 found out how :) and did telnet 192.168.0.198:3389 and it returned "Connecting To 192.168.0.198:3389...Could not open connection to the host, on por |
| 15:52.03 | TheWarden | t 23: Connect failed" |
| 15:52.28 | gnugr | " netstat -plunt " will show wich port every app useing |
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| 15:52.38 | catsup | yeah well don't use a : |
| 15:52.46 | catsup | use a space |
| 15:52.56 | catsup | did you say it was a windows 7 client |
| 15:52.59 | catsup | can you try another client |
| 15:53.01 | cahoot | telnetd installed on debian? |
| 15:53.12 | catsup | telnetd doesn't need to be installed |
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| 15:54.23 | TheWarden | I did netstat -plunt and I don't see port 3389 |
| 15:54.42 | gnugr | means its not open |
| 15:54.43 | Leoneof | jhutchins: cahoot: i have Debian 6 squeeze, and using apt-get. |
| 15:54.58 | jhutchins_lt | Leoneof: If youre using aptitude you can tell it no and it will suggest an alternative if one exists. |
| 15:55.12 | Leoneof | but i prefer apt-get, easy :/ |
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| 15:55.17 | tharkun | TheWarden: -pantu might have given the answer but you need to fix why your program is not binding to that address |
| 15:55.28 | TheWarden | I tried telnet from debian to the other debian system as telnet 192.168.0.198 3389 and it said telnet unable to connect to remote host : connection refused |
| 15:56.12 | dkr | Leoneof: apt-get install foo is not any easier than aptitude install foo. |
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| 15:56.20 | tharkun | TheWarden: telnet is pretty tool but you need to know your basics. From your win 7 machine try telneting to your server on port 22 and you will get an answer |
| 15:56.33 | TheWarden | tharkun: strange I did netstat -pantu as well and there is no port 3389 even though I enabled Remote Desktop |
| 15:56.33 | Leoneof | oh, so sad :`( |
| 15:56.45 | dkr | well, one character less typing. but I alias aptitude to a ;) |
| 15:57.22 | tharkun | TheWarden: check why it is not binding to your ip. It is something within the server. Check the logs of it or take a trip to /var/log/syslog |
| 15:57.23 | dkr | !tell Leoneof about why aptitude |
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| 15:58.00 | TheWarden | tharkun: I did that as well to both Debian installs, telnet 192.168.0.198:3389 count not open connection to host, on port 23: connect failed |
| 15:58.20 | Leoneof | dk: thanks. |
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| 15:59.52 | DammitJim | man, does someone have a good tutorial on how to use wpa_cli? |
| 15:59.56 | tharkun | TheWarden: you need to have a server listening on the port you are telneting to. Try port 22 instead of 23 and you WILL get an answer. |
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| 16:00.30 | tharkun | But first fix why your server is not listening on the port you want it to do it. |
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| 16:02.46 | TheWarden | tharkun: lol that's the strange thing I go from Windows 7 telnet telling it to use port 22 and it reports 23 in the error mesasge. |
| 16:03.39 | TheWarden | tharkun: however I just tried again like so telnet 192.168.0.198 22 (without colon) and I get SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6 |
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| 16:05.06 | TheWarden | tharkun: I'm in the /var/log/syslog, what should I be looking for exactly? |
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| 16:06.30 | gnugr | DammitJim: read this: http://linux.die.net/man/8/wpa_cli |
| 16:06.52 | TheWarden | tharkun: not sure where to go or fix it to get remote desktop on Debian to start listening on port 3389 (default RDP port) |
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| 16:07.29 | DammitJim | thanks gnugr ... I think my problem is with what's required for it to work... like wpa_supplicant daemon and such |
| 16:08.48 | gnugr | !wpa |
| 16:08.48 | dpkg | wpa is Wi-Fi Protected Access. A WPA supplicant is provided for Debian systems in the 'wpasupplicant' package. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to configure the supplicant as desired (especially "Troubleshooting" regarding association to hidden SSIDs). Debian-Installer does not support WPA at this time; see also <nowpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
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| 16:14.46 | omnipotentduo | so has anyone checked out mint debian edition? |
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| 16:26.03 | twobitsprite | omnoms: I have it installed on a VM |
| 16:26.37 | twobitsprite | omnoms: I like to default gnome layout and theme... |
| 16:26.44 | twobitsprite | not really sure what other differences there are |
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| 16:34.36 | superlinux | hi. I have a removable ntfs disk. I cannot write to the disk. I can only read it. what should I do to allow writing? |
| 16:34.52 | lapsusbrutus | Hi Im writing a printing howto for different OS'es and I need to understand one thing. With my debian computers printers from cups-samba-server shows up atumaticly and I can print to them without installing anything. What thing do I got installed that does this automaticly? |
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| 16:35.15 | DammitJim | lapsusbrutus, do you have CUPS? |
| 16:35.24 | superlinux | i am using ntfs-3g with setuid set |
| 16:35.42 | gnugr | #ubuntu |
| 16:35.56 | gnugr | opssss |
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| 16:39.18 | steveire | Hi, this bug is closed http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=596908 Does that mean I can't comment on it? |
| 16:39.40 | steveire | Is Modestas Vainius on IRC? |
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| 16:40.02 | babilen | !tell superlinux -about user accessible ntfs |
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| 16:42.57 | superlinux | babilen, you have not solved me the problem. i know all that! gnome IS mounting my disk readonly!! |
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| 16:44.59 | babilen | superlinux: sorry for trying to help. Have a nice day! |
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| 16:47.47 | bonjoyee | has anyone had issues with brasero/wodim in squeeze? ..the burn is reported successful but the md5sum of the disc ( from command line) returns a I/O error? |
| 16:47.52 | lapsusbrutus | DammitJim: Yes, I do |
| 16:48.30 | Iridos | steveire, the close-message actually tells you all about that |
| 16:49.22 | DammitJim | I've seen CUPS do it automatically for me |
| 16:49.54 | steveire | Iridos: I'm upstream I don't know that archived means no one can comment or reopen it. |
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| 16:50.26 | superlinux | what would refresh the list of removable disks without removing the plug? |
| 16:50.26 | lapsusbrutus | DammitJim: awesome :) I love cups. |
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| 16:50.45 | Iridos | steveire, quote: "Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to 596908@bugs.debian.org, and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate." |
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| 16:53.04 | vivanov | in terminal, when i press [ctrl] + [left arrow] i want it to skip a word but it types ";5D" instead -- how to fix? |
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| 16:57.45 | jhutchins | rsync -avz --port=222 foo user@server.com:/home/user/ hangs - can anybody spot why? |
| 16:57.50 | vivanov | i messed up the .inputrc file -- heres why |
| 16:59.20 | jhutchins | Don't everybody speak at once now. |
| 16:59.25 | DammitJim | is port 222 opened? |
| 16:59.41 | abrotman | jhutchins: server.com isn't listening on port 22 |
| 16:59.42 | DammitJim | can you: telnet server.com 222 ? |
| 16:59.59 | jhutchins | DammitJim: I can ssh and scp to 222. |
| 17:00.08 | DammitJim | stop it abrotman ... this could be my good deed of the day! |
| 17:00.11 | jelly | off by 200 |
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| 17:01.08 | jelly | jhutchins: you should use the ssh command and protocol to connect then |
| 17:01.10 | DammitJim | jhutchins, something is wrong with your server |
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| 17:01.30 | DammitJim | that command should work (if you have the right server address and port |
| 17:01.39 | jhutchins | Tried it with -e ssh as well. |
| 17:01.43 | DammitJim | paste the exact command and I'll try it |
| 17:01.57 | DammitJim | just don't give me the password |
| 17:02.04 | jelly | jhutchins: -e 'ssh -p222' instead of the _rsync_ option --port=222? |
| 17:02.09 | DammitJim | but it should prompt you |
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| 17:02.46 | DammitJim | --port doesn't work |
| 17:02.48 | DammitJim | lol |
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| 17:03.18 | jelly | jhutchins: alternatively, set the port in ~/.ssh/config stanza for Host mungingisbad.com |
| 17:03.18 | DammitJim | jhutchins, you should do rsync -avz foo user@server.com:222/home/user |
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| 17:04.04 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Nope, that trys to put the file in 222/home/user |
| 17:04.06 | sickgut | puppy linux 5.25 livecd , used grub4dos install onto usb stick, made usb stick bootable and run full debian os from it in a normal way not live |
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| 17:04.28 | ChrisW | hey all, ever since the last stable release, I've been getting this in syslog: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/374622/ |
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| 17:04.33 | sickgut | so who here was asking, like me how to make usb bootable once debian is installed in it? |
| 17:04.39 | ChrisW | I've finally had a chance to look into it, anyone know what's going on there? |
| 17:05.16 | abrotman | sickgut: just you |
| 17:05.22 | sickgut | k |
| 17:05.27 | sickgut | well all fixed anyway |
| 17:05.32 | abrotman | ChrisW: there's no php4 in squeeze ? |
| 17:05.36 | DammitJim | jhutchins, user@server.com:222:/home/user |
| 17:05.44 | sickgut | grub4dos way easier than grub2 |
| 17:05.44 | ChrisW | abrotman: okay, but then what's the cron line doing there? |
| 17:06.07 | ChrisW | I only use PHP for squirrelmail, and it's all managed by debian packages, not customised at all |
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| 17:06.34 | TheWarden | mmm I'm lost here as to way the remote desktop is not working on Debian. I'm using Remote Desktop on Windows 7 to a dedicated debian system and to a debian system in VirtuxlBox with host os XP Pro. Both do not work. |
| 17:06.35 | abrotman | ChrisW: it's looking for certain directories/files |
| 17:07.10 | ChrisW | abrotman: I can see that, but if php4 is no longer there, why didn't the package uninstall script remove it? |
| 17:07.15 | ChrisW | is this a known bug? |
| 17:07.35 | abrotman | i don't know how you installed squirrelmail |
| 17:07.44 | DammitJim | jhutchins, or you can do: rsync -avz --rsh='ssh -p222' foo user@server.com:/home/user |
| 17:08.01 | ChrisW | abrotman: aptitude install squirrelmail |
| 17:08.08 | abrotman | ChrisW: and you're sure it's up to date? |
| 17:08.15 | TheWarden | I can telnet to port 22 to both systems find with no errors... I get "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6" with no prompt or any other text. |
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| 17:09.17 | ChrisW | abrotman: yep |
| 17:09.29 | ChrisW | abrotman: wonder if this is related: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=608874 |
| 17:10.14 | TheWarden | using netstat I don't see a port biding to 3389 so there is an issue. Looking at my /var/log/syslog I've not yet found anything that stands out for me as to why there is no binding. |
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| 17:10.53 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | abrotman: hello |
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| 17:12.40 | TheWarden | What would I look for in the log regarding remote desktop? |
| 17:13.06 | wildc4rd | evenin all |
| 17:13.12 | jhutchins | Well, I set up the Port and Username in .ssh/config and it works now. |
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| 17:13.44 | DammitJim | dammit jhutchins, I was supposed to help you with your problem for it to be my good deed of the day! |
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| 17:14.18 | jhutchins | DammitJim: I can try the command you suggested later. |
| 17:14.23 | DammitJim | lol |
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| 17:15.27 | jelly | DammitJim: he likes you more than me :-( |
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| 17:15.56 | sickgut | TheWarden if your getting the ssh message when you telnet to it thats bad |
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| 17:16.07 | jelly | [19:02] <jelly> jhutchins: -e 'ssh -p222' instead of the _rsync_ option --port=222? [19:07] <DammitJim> jhutchins, or you can do: rsync -avz --rsh='ssh -p222' foo user@server.com:/home/user |
| 17:16.12 | sickgut | its because your running ssh login server not a telnet server on 22 |
| 17:16.28 | sickgut | sshd is usually on port 19 |
| 17:16.36 | sickgut | or 22 |
| 17:16.39 | jhutchins | jelly: Missed the tick marks |
| 17:16.40 | sickgut | and t elnet on port 23 |
| 17:16.45 | jhutchins | sickgut: No. |
| 17:17.00 | jhutchins | sickgut: Default is 22, this one is 222. |
| 17:17.01 | sickgut | whats no about that |
| 17:17.11 | DammitJim | shut it, jelly |
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| 17:17.17 | DammitJim | now I'm the last one |
| 17:17.30 | jelly | DammitJim: I take offense! |
| 17:17.34 | abrotman | eh ? |
| 17:17.49 | DammitJim | sickgut, you can run ssh on any port you want (almost any port) |
| 17:17.56 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !abrotman |
| 17:17.56 | dpkg | somebody said abrotman was someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?", or known for his often misinterpreted sense of humour, or one of the few nicks you can complete with left hand and four presses |
| 17:18.01 | DammitJim | and you can telnet to any port (almost any port) to check connectivity |
| 17:18.01 | abrotman | hiya |
| 17:18.04 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | : ) |
| 17:18.05 | sickgut | my comment was re: TheWarden>I can telnet to port 22 to both systems find with no errors... I get "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6" with no prompt or any other text. |
| 17:18.07 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hey |
| 17:18.14 | TheWarden | sickgut: this is a default install, I just installed it today and another one yesterday. No config has been done other then creating a user account and installing ssh, mail, etc. at install. |
| 17:18.45 | sickgut | yes but you cant use telnet on a ssh port |
| 17:18.58 | sickgut | i mean you connect to a telnet server |
| 17:19.01 | sickgut | with telnet |
| 17:19.06 | TheWarden | sickgut: I enabled remote desktop. Okay, well I have no idea why it would be this way being that did a default install. |
| 17:19.13 | petemc | sickgut: telnet is a common way to check port status |
| 17:19.29 | sickgut | ssh is encrypted and only works with ssh client like ssh command at the console or putty etc |
| 17:19.39 | petemc | you seem to miss the point |
| 17:19.40 | TheWarden | sickgut: I was using telnet for testing reasons... as using remote desktop client from Windows 7 doesn't report a decent error message other then it couldn't connect. |
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| 17:19.55 | TheWarden | sighs |
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| 17:20.35 | TheWarden | I didn't think it would be a big deal to get remote desktop working on Debian but out of the box it appears so.... however its gotta be something simple that I'm not finding or understanding. |
| 17:20.49 | jelly | X-Mailer: telnet/0.17 |
| 17:20.59 | DammitJim | jelly, can I get points for ignoring sickgut ? |
| 17:21.06 | petemc | TheWarden: the rdp service is provided by virtualbox, no? |
| 17:21.11 | acu | I want to remove the keyring necessary when you autoboot debian - is so annoying if I try to connect to remote client ? |
| 17:21.26 | jhutchins | TheWarden: I haven't used it much but iirc you need to launch the remote desktop with an "invitation" for the win client to connect. |
| 17:21.31 | TheWarden | The biggest thing for me is that using netstat I should see port 3389 but there isn't one. Why, I'm not sure. I guess if I understood how Debian handled remote desktop I could look further. For instance what is the service? |
| 17:21.49 | jelly | DammitJim: you could have, if only you'd done it quietly |
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| 17:21.55 | TheWarden | petemc: yes I have that turned on, however this issue exists with a dedicated Debian box as well. |
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| 17:22.17 | omnipotentduo | I'm having an issue with my wireless, I keep dropping signal about every 10mins and its getting really annoying that I'm stuck with a hardwire connection to do anything online |
| 17:22.21 | jhutchins | TheWarden: I'm not sure "turned on" is all there is to it. I think you have to issue an invitation. |
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| 17:23.00 | simonlnu | omnipotentduo: have you looked at any potential hardware issues? |
| 17:23.17 | TheWarden | jhutchins: your kidding, I have to initiate an invitation? That's not gonna work, not to mention how as I'm doing this for remote admin work. There won't be someone at the other end. |
| 17:23.17 | jelly | TheWarden: which package provides RDP service in Debian? |
| 17:23.29 | simonlnu | or radiative issues, like reception, interference? |
| 17:23.47 | petemc | TheWarden: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611613 |
| 17:23.48 | abrotman | simonlnu: his buckets are filling up and tipping over |
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| 17:23.55 | jhutchins | TheWarden: One of the vnc servers might be better for you. |
| 17:24.08 | jhutchins | TheWarden: What package did you install and how did you turn it on? |
| 17:24.10 | simonlnu | abrotman: sorry, eparse |
| 17:24.27 | abrotman | about the wifi dropping every 10 minutes .. bad humor .. i must be canadian |
| 17:24.38 | simonlnu | oh, ok :) |
| 17:24.42 | simonlnu | oooh |
| 17:24.47 | omnipotentduo | simonlnu, I have the proper driver installed checked my router |
| 17:25.03 | TheWarden | jhutchins: as I stated this is a default install other then adding a user account and installing a few services. Nothing else has been done. Looking at my Software Centre I see Remote Desktop installed. |
| 17:25.09 | simonlnu | abrotman: that's funny |
| 17:25.13 | acu | any way to make automatic keyring authentication |
| 17:25.16 | abrotman | not really |
| 17:25.31 | simonlnu | i did =) |
| 17:25.33 | jhutchins | TheWarden: Ok, you probably have the client installed. |
| 17:25.35 | TheWarden | jhutchins: Also why would I have to use VNC when I can use remote desktop fine with Windows systems, I thought it worked the same on Debian/Ubuntu? |
| 17:26.00 | petemc | TheWarden: did you read that bug report ? |
| 17:26.01 | jhutchins | TheWarden: This isn't windows. |
| 17:26.05 | TheWarden | jhutchins: no its server and I didn't install it. it was default. |
| 17:26.25 | simonlnu | acu: like gnome-keyring login? should be already if you're running gnome. otherwise it's a bit of a challenge unless you install the right pam module(s). |
| 17:26.41 | TheWarden | jhutchins: no kidding, I realize that. Okay do you know this, Remote Desktop in Debian is it intended for VNC or Terminal Services? |
| 17:26.46 | simonlnu | should show up as a Suggests: or such |
| 17:27.20 | jhutchins | TheWarden: The rdp server is in the xrdp package, the docs should tell you how to enable it. |
| 17:27.28 | omnipotentduo | simonlnu: I have the proper driver installed checked my router |
| 17:27.37 | jhutchins | TheWarden: I've always used vnc myself, except when connecting to a windows box. |
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| 17:28.14 | jhutchins | TheWarden: If you're running a server it's better to learn the CLI and just use ssh. |
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| 17:28.53 | TheWarden | jhutchins: Ahh so many rdp is not possible. Well I know the command line that is my main problem lol, I don't know this GUI stuff. But I need it setup this way for those that can't handle CLI. |
| 17:29.24 | jhutchins | !webmin |
| 17:29.24 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 17:29.50 | jhutchins | TheWarden: rdp is certainly possible, aptitude install rdp and read the docs. |
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| 17:30.32 | TheWarden | smacks his head and says "remote desktop" doesn't mean RDP, never assume anything :)" |
| 17:30.49 | petemc | xrdp is fake rdp thats actually vnc |
| 17:31.10 | TheWarden | petemc: What, are you serious? |
| 17:31.19 | jhutchins | TheWarden: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html |
| 17:31.20 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.44 | petemc | TheWarden: yes, thanks for not ignoring me |
| 17:31.45 | jhutchins | TheWarden: rdp == Remote Desktop Protocol |
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| 17:32.50 | TheWarden | jhutchins: Right using Terminal Services I thought, I've never studied the protocol. I'll play with it... Thanks for the links but honestly I know most of that stuff... I'm use to using OpenBSD |
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| 17:33.09 | jhutchins | TheWarden: Sorry, that should be aptitude install xrdp - forgot the x. |
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| 17:33.09 | pbn | Hi, how do you install moonlight, or basically, a silverlight client... on Debian 6.0 ? |
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| 17:33.09 | TheWarden | jhutchins: no problem, I found it thanks. |
| 17:33.13 | stevieman | I'm trying to setup VNC to allow multiple users to login at the same time, Ive found how to do it in fedora but not debian, can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 17:33.34 | jhutchins | TheWarden: I think tightvnc or realvnc perform better over WAN. |
| 17:33.40 | TheWarden | pbn: software centre I believe, keep in mind it does not have fair play. |
| 17:33.53 | simonlnu | omnipotentduo: yep. i htg, sorry. good luck with that |
| 17:33.57 | TheWarden | jhutchins: Oh no way, really. I'll keep that in mind thanks. |
| 17:34.18 | jhutchins | stevieman: Which server did you install? |
| 17:34.34 | TheWarden | pbn: so this means that if you install moonlight you can't watch Netflix on a Unix/Linux box. |
| 17:34.37 | omnipotentduo | simonlnu: its cool thanks |
| 17:34.59 | stevieman | jhutchins: Well I have the built in one, vnc4server and tight. I'd like to use tightvnc if possible but that is just a personal preference |
| 17:35.08 | pbn | TheWarden: you mean I won't be able to watch most of the video content ? |
| 17:35.43 | jhutchins | stevieman: iirc the default debian tightvnc install presumes individual logins rather than sharing the active desktop. |
| 17:36.04 | TheWarden | pbn: well yes and no, if the content is protected using fair play/DRM (digital rights management) that no you will not be able to. I've gone down this frustrating path. I shake my fist at M$! |
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| 17:36.35 | petemc | TheWarden: ill try a third time - debian bug number 611613 mentions a way to get rdp for virtualbox working |
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| 17:36.55 | jhutchins | TheWarden: You can also enable remote login to X. I think putty offers an xclient for windows. |
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| 17:37.18 | stevieman | jhutchins: it seems that the user has to be logged in for vnc to work, I'd like for any user to connect and login via vnc. and multiple logins at the same time are a potential |
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| 17:37.37 | TheWarden | petemc: Oh really... well if VNC works then that will do just prefer rdp since all have it installed already the client that is. |
| 17:38.02 | jhutchins | stevieman: /usr/share/doc/tightvnc |
| 17:38.11 | TheWarden | jhutchins: Oh really, I wasn't aware of that. Any advantages? |
| 17:38.28 | jhutchins | TheWarden: One less layer, but not secure. |
| 17:38.44 | jhutchins | TheWarden: iirc direct Xauth doesn't encrypt. |
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| 17:39.29 | jhutchins | TheWarden: When I'm not "really working" I connect my laptop to the desktop with ssh and run my mail app off of it remotely. That way I have one set of indexes/read marks. |
| 17:39.32 | TheWarden | jhutchins: Oh well then I don't want to go that direction without encryption :) |
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| 17:40.05 | jhutchins | TheWarden: Just contributing to the confusion - there's almost always more than one way in linux. |
| 17:40.38 | jhutchins | stevieman: I think it's possible, but having used three or four different vnc servers I don't remember the details of which wants what. |
| 17:41.11 | TheWarden | jhutchins: yes so true, just looking for the best for security/performance. It would be used primarily LAN but could be access at some point remote to the LAN. |
| 17:41.11 | pbn | okay just installed software-center, but I tried moonlight then silverlight in the search box, I get nothing |
| 17:41.30 | stevieman | jhutchins: the biggest hurdle right now is allowing users to connect and then login to their GDM desktop. |
| 17:41.38 | TheWarden | pbn: What are you wanting to use moonlight for? |
| 17:42.29 | pbn | TheWarden: just watch videos on some website |
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| 17:42.55 | TheWarden | pbn: Mmm well you may have to add a repository I'm not sure. I did this on Ubuntu so there will be some differences. |
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| 17:43.07 | abrotman | moonlight is in debian ? |
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| 17:43.21 | abrotman | pbn: which version of Debian ? |
| 17:43.32 | abrotman | oh, maybe they removed it |
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| 17:43.34 | pbn | abrotman: I don't know, I'm trying to find out... this is 6.0 amd64 |
| 17:43.38 | TheWarden | pbn: Well take my word for it if they use fair play/DRM it will not work as moonlight doesn't have this only Silverlight itself does and Silverlight doesn't work on anything but Windows and Mac OS X. |
| 17:43.44 | omnipotentduo | do we have any wifi guru's in house right now? |
| 17:44.14 | abrotman | pbn: try #debian-mono on irc.oftc.net .. see if they have a place to get it |
| 17:44.41 | pbn | this video for instance: http://video.rtlinfo.be/video/302950.aspx?categoryid=312 |
| 17:44.54 | pbn | abrotman: okay gonna try on oftc, thank you :) |
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| 17:45.23 | TheWarden | pbn: Not sure if they would use fair play/DRM, sorry. |
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| 17:46.59 | Paul_E | Hi all: If I make the wrong choice doing upgrade-from-grub-legacy, is my only option reinstalling grub or can I fix it from the grub command line? |
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| 17:53.08 | jhutchins | Paul_E: What choice? |
| 17:53.19 | Paul_E | jhutchins |
| 17:53.21 | Paul_E | oops.. |
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| 17:53.55 | Paul_E | jhutchins: I guess I selected the wrong partition when presented? I was getting "error 15" when booting, but now when I reboot the machine, I get the grub command line. |
| 17:54.20 | TheWarden | jhutchins: Strange I got xrdp working fine but now using TightVNC client to the Debian system it will not work. I connects but when it prompts for a password I entered it and then it says it failed. mm |
| 17:54.55 | jhutchins | TheWarden: I think you have to run a vnc server for tightvnc to connect, don't think it does rdp. |
| 17:55.05 | Kream | what's the canonical way to run a command as root per boot for debian ? |
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| 17:55.30 | jelly-home | Kream: /msg dpkg rc.local |
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| 17:55.34 | jhutchins | Kream: Most common is with su - |
| 17:55.43 | jhutchins | Kream: You can configure sudo as well. |
| 17:55.56 | jelly-home | jhutchins: I believe they're asking about "at boot time" |
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| 17:55.59 | jhutchins | Oh, per boot. sry. |
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| 17:56.53 | TheWarden | jhutchins: Ahh so I need X11VNC Server ? |
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| 17:57.41 | jelly-home | TheWarden: that's not idiomatic usage of vnc in unix |
| 17:57.42 | jhutchins | TheWarden: There are several - tightvnc has it's own server, and will give you the "tight" benefits. |
| 17:57.48 | TheWarden | jhutchins: I do have vnc4server installed |
| 17:57.57 | jhutchins | TheWarden: Fire it up! |
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| 17:58.05 | TheWarden | jelly-home: oh okay |
| 17:58.07 | twobitsprite | gah.... the new pdf viewer in squeeze doesn't seem to have a search function... am I missing it somewhere? |
| 17:58.20 | Kream | Thanks, jelly-home |
| 17:58.20 | Tango42 | hello, where can I find a Debian 4 install cd ? |
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| 17:58.35 | TheWarden | jhutchins: well if I have vnc4server installed then I should be able to connect using TightVNC client mmmm |
| 17:58.41 | twobitsprite | Tango42: any particular reason you need debian 4? |
| 17:58.50 | twobitsprite | Tango42: it's way old and out of support |
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| 17:58.52 | Tango42 | Security testing |
| 17:58.54 | jelly-home | TheWarden: typically your user would log in and start their own vncserver session (which in turn looks like a separate X server for X apps), then connect to it using a vnc client |
| 17:59.30 | jelly-home | Tango42: so yeah, but first start that vncserver and possibly tell it where to find its password |
| 17:59.37 | twobitsprite | Tango42: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 17:59.38 | jelly-home | ah. |
| 17:59.44 | jelly-home | TheWarden: so yeah, but first start that vncserver and possibly tell it where to find its password |
| 17:59.47 | TheWarden | jelly-home: right just trying to figure out why my VNC client is not able to connect to my Debian system. It has Remote Desktop enabled to allow connections and vnc4server intstalled. |
| 18:00.01 | docgnome | does anyone have any idea when kde will be updated in testing next? I'm running 4.4.5 and amarok 2.4.0 and amarok loves to crash. I'm wondering if it's related to the mix of a newer amarok with an older kde |
| 18:00.10 | jelly-home | TheWarden: I have no idea what you mean by "Remote Desktop enabled" |
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| 18:00.53 | Tango42 | Thank you ! |
| 18:00.59 | jhutchins | TheWarden: Check the manpage and /usr/share/doc/vnc4server for instructions on starting it with the correct options. |
| 18:01.10 | TheWarden | jelly-home: In System > Preferences > Remote Desktop I have to enable remote access and what/how I would allow it. My assumption would be that this works with VNC and RDP |
| 18:01.18 | TheWarden | jhutchins: will do, thanks. |
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| 18:01.37 | jhutchins | TheWarden: As jelly-home said, it needs to know what password mechanism to use. |
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| 18:01.57 | jelly-home | TheWarden: is there some help for that functionality? |
| 18:02.01 | jhutchins | I'm pretty sure any of the clients will connect with any of the servers. |
| 18:02.02 | jelly-home | is not a Gnome user |
| 18:02.19 | jhutchins | Some won't connect with the OSX server though, I think you need real instead of tight for that. |
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| 18:03.12 | jhutchins | TheWarden: Using the GUI setup is deceptive, because Gnome doesn't correctly check to see if the packages are installed or enabled. |
| 18:03.45 | TheWarden | jhutchins: Yeah that's what I'm learning :) |
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| 18:04.09 | jhutchins | TheWarden: In Linux the GUI is just a layer on top of the system. |
| 18:04.22 | jhutchins | (Thank goodness) |
| 18:04.54 | jelly-home | yeah, $DEITY forbid we had a well behaving, consistent and well performing GUI |
| 18:05.00 | TheWarden | jhutchins: yeah I'm aware of that just going with my experience GUI wise from using Ubuntu. I figured Debian would be better since it was the base and I like to have control and prefer the terminal but at times need the GUI. |
| 18:05.16 | boudiccas | in yum you can do a yum localinstall, does apt-get have a similar command please? |
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| 18:05.28 | jelly-home | boudiccas: we don't know what it does |
| 18:05.36 | jhutchins | Cannonical have gone a little farther in developing/integrating the Gnome system utilities. |
| 18:06.13 | omnipotentduo | imho to the detriment of the linux community |
| 18:06.17 | jelly-home | boudiccas: can you describe the functionality |
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| 18:06.25 | boudiccas | it installs filles with the syntax of 'yum localinstall *.rpm' and installs files from a local folder |
| 18:06.44 | omnipotentduo | dpkg is the command you are looking for |
| 18:06.44 | dpkg | omnipotentduo: i don't know |
| 18:06.45 | jelly-home | boudiccas: use dpkg to install .deb package files |
| 18:06.58 | boudiccas | ok, thanks |
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| 18:07.43 | jelly-home | boudiccas: not unlike using rpm -U or rpm -i to install a .rpm package file |
| 18:08.40 | jelly-home | boudiccas: when dpkg complains because of missing dependencies, use "apt-get -f install" to make apt calculate and try satisfy them |
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| 18:11.18 | braunkraut | anybody here have experience with dual stack debian boxes? |
| 18:11.19 | p0pc0rninj4 | I want a cookie |
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| 18:12.45 | braunkraut | running v4/v6 on this box and my irr daemon only listens on tcp6 which causes me considerable headaches with my submission scripts that are v6 unaware apparently. |
| 18:13.04 | braunkraut | trying to figure out how I can have it bind on both v4/v6 or force it v4 only. |
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| 18:18.30 | jelly-home | !bindv6only |
| 18:18.31 | dpkg | net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 was set in netbase 4.38, no longer set by default since netbase 4.42 (BTS #560238). net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 breaks networking in Java for sun-java6-jdk (BTS #560044). For older Squeeze installations, use "sed -i 's/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 1/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0/' /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf ; invoke-rc.d procps restart" to revert. |
| 18:18.46 | DammitJim | dammit... why is it so hard to configure a wep connection? |
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| 18:19.14 | jelly-home | braunkraut: that setting may or may not affect your service; I'm clueless aboot 'v6! |
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| 18:20.33 | astrostl | if i have a package with a maintainer of user@gmail.com, why would aptitude search '?installed !?maintainer(ubuntu)' NOT find it? |
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| 18:20.51 | astrostl | (aptitude search, installed packages, maintainer does not contain the string "ubuntu") |
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| 18:21.22 | superlinux | hi. my videos are displayed with the colors faint!! |
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| 18:21.25 | astrostl | (yes, this is ubuntu, but #debian is smarter...) |
| 18:21.27 | igotaproblol | Hello |
| 18:21.29 | superlinux | what should I do? |
| 18:21.40 | jelly-home | !they don't know |
| 18:21.40 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 18:22.13 | igotaproblol | I use Debian testing and can't install the Catalyst 11.3 GPU driver. It crashes with the error message: "[Error] Kernel Module : Failed to build fglrx-8.831.2 with DKMS" |
| 18:22.59 | astrostl | dpkg: aptitude is a debian tool, and I am working with debian packages. I don't see any reason for hostility or refusal to answer. |
| 18:22.59 | dpkg | ...but aptitude is already something else... |
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| 18:23.29 | cahoot | astrostl: no need badgering the bot |
| 18:23.43 | igotaproblol | people usually become aggressive when they have feelings of inferiority |
| 18:24.09 | cahoot | bots tend to be rather different to emotions |
| 18:24.14 | cahoot | bots tend to be rather indifferent to emotions |
| 18:24.28 | astrostl | i guess my comment should have been directed at jelly-home, then |
| 18:24.31 | jelly-home | astrostl: I do --- it works in Debian as advertised, just verified with aptitude search '?installed !?maintainer(debian)' -F '%20p %V %m' |
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| 18:25.02 | astrostl | it's working with lots of packages on my system as well, but not this particular ONE |
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| 18:25.31 | jelly-home | astrostl: there is a reason we don't answer questions about derivatives in here -- they change stuff and there are different assumptions about the system |
| 18:25.44 | superlinux | my problem looks very weird. the videos are not displayed with colors in any of the players. can someone help please? |
| 18:25.57 | twobitsprite | astrostl: maybe you should install debian ;) |
| 18:26.11 | jelly-home | astrostl: so, pretty please, ask in the correct channel, or reproduce the issue in Debian first |
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| 18:26.29 | boudiccas | jelly-home, i tried installing libreoffice from their deb files using .. dpkg -i *.deb /home/boztu/programmes/LibO_3.3.2rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS........... and it doesnt complete but fails saying ...... Processing triggers for menu ...Errors were encountered while processing: ......... How do I install it then please? |
| 18:26.46 | abrotman | astrostl: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being offtopic. Please use #ubuntu for Ubuntu problems. Thank you. |
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| 18:27.00 | jelly-home | boudiccas: pastebin the _complete_ output for your installation process, please |
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| 18:28.08 | jelly-home | !libreoffice |
| 18:28.08 | dpkg | LibreOffice is a fork of <OpenOffice>. It is currently packaged in <testing>, replacing the OpenOffice.org packaging. http://www.libreoffice.org/ #documentfoundation on irc.freenode.net. Debian users will see little difference between the old OOo packages and LibreOffice, ask me about <debian ooo>. |
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| 18:28.44 | jelly-home | !debian ooo |
| 18:28.44 | dpkg | <OpenOffice.org> in Debian has been following the fork at http://go-oo.org/ for several years, meaning that OOo in Debian has had a set of LGPLv3 patches that Sun refused to accept on the grounds of their licence. The fork at go-oo.org has joined the <libreoffice> project so while there's a change in name for the openoffice.org packages in Debian, there's little practical difference for users at this stage. |
| 18:29.08 | swilson06 | how can i tell whether output is going to stdout or stderr? |
| 18:29.59 | boudiccas | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/3p0AMpK8 for the libreoffice installation |
| 18:30.41 | twobitsprite | swilson06: you can send one or the other to /dev/null and see what still shows up |
| 18:30.48 | swilson06 | i'm currently just doing 'cmd 1> /dev/null' or 'cmd 2> /dev/null' |
| 18:30.53 | swilson06 | ah, you beat me to it |
| 18:30.54 | superlinux | ok.. that was the Hue! |
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| 18:31.30 | swilson06 | i was wondering if there's some way of piping everything through a command or a shell setting that would let me know somehow |
| 18:31.35 | jelly-home | boudiccas: you have given dpkg an extra, needless parameter "/home/boztu/programmes/LibO_3.3.2rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS" |
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| 18:32.12 | twobitsprite | swilson06: I don't believe so, but you can ask in #bash, they might have an idea... however, I warn you that they can be a bit vicious at times |
| 18:32.32 | jelly-home | boudiccas: everything else seems to be installed without issues |
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| 18:32.43 | boudiccas | jelly-home, i tried running it as 'dpkg -i *.deb' but it complained about a lack of an action command |
| 18:32.52 | jelly-home | boudiccas: unlikely. |
| 18:33.20 | boudiccas | but if its in testing, how do i install it using apt-get please? theres no point in me inventing the wheel again |
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| 18:33.43 | p0pc0rninj4 | !nmap |
| 18:33.44 | dpkg | [nmap] a free software port scanner written by Fyodor. It is used to evaluate the security of computers, and to discover services or servers on a computer network. Don't use it to do anything you wouldn't want done to yourself. Popular by the clueless to audit computers they could and should just run 'netstat -plunt' on (ask me about <open ports>). http://nmap.org/ ##nmap on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:33.48 | p0pc0rninj4 | WTFª |
| 18:33.55 | p0pc0rninj4 | !metasploit |
| 18:33.55 | dpkg | The Metasploit Framework is a penetration testing system and development platform, used for authoring and executing exploit code against a target machine. Not in Debian, <RFP> in bug #323420. http://www.metasploit.com/ #metasploit on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:34.08 | jelly-home | boudiccas: if you are running testing, remove all the packages you just installed, and install libreoffice using aptitude or apt instead |
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| 18:34.23 | jelly-home | ,versions libreoffice |
| 18:34.24 | judd | Package libreoffice on i386 -- wheezy: 1:3.3.2-2; sid: 1:3.3.2-3 |
| 18:34.28 | jhutchins | ,versions libreoffice |
| 18:34.30 | judd | Package libreoffice on i386 -- wheezy: 1:3.3.2-2; sid: 1:3.3.2-3 |
| 18:34.32 | swilson06 | twobitsprite: thanks |
| 18:34.34 | jelly-home | hey |
| 18:34.35 | jhutchins | Heh. |
| 18:34.44 | jelly-home | watch it buddy |
| 18:34.50 | jhutchins | Sorry, eyball-to-finger lag. |
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| 18:35.49 | twobitsprite | !tell boudiccas -about mixed system |
| 18:37.57 | boudiccas | this is my first day of using debian so i dont know the syntax of various commands. like hoe do i use the testing repo please? |
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| 18:39.33 | boudiccas | jelly-home, this is my first day of using debian so i dont know the syntax of various commands. like how do i use the testing repo please? |
| 18:39.34 | twobitsprite | why has the package search on the debian page keep telling me my keyword is too generic, when it's the name of an actual package? |
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| 18:40.03 | abrotman | twobitsprite: which is? |
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| 18:40.05 | jelly-home | twobitsprite: the package has a too generic name. |
| 18:40.07 | jhutchins | Because the name of the package is too generic. |
| 18:40.14 | twobitsprite | libreoffice is too generic? |
| 18:40.35 | abrotman | works fine for me |
| 18:40.36 | jhutchins | twobitsprite: Apparently, too many possible matches. |
| 18:40.40 | jhutchins | Or not. |
| 18:41.01 | twobitsprite | abrotman: strange |
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| 18:41.11 | twobitsprite | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libreoffice&searchon=names&exact=1§ion=all&suite=squeeze-backports |
| 18:41.15 | twobitsprite | does that link work for you? |
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| 18:41.50 | abrotman | twobitsprite: it means there is no libreoffice in squeezebackports |
| 18:42.00 | abrotman | twobitsprite: packages.debian.org/libreoffice |
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| 18:42.06 | twobitsprite | ahh... hooray for unhelpful error messages |
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| 18:42.12 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libreoffice |
| 18:42.57 | twobitsprite | those two show results, but still give the "generic" message... ohh well |
| 18:43.38 | andornaut | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.44 | jelly-home | twobitsprite: file a bug on www.debian.org? "doesn't do what was expected" |
| 18:44.03 | twobitsprite | jelly-home: I just might |
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| 18:45.49 | erAbuelo | ta luego |
| 18:45.53 | boudiccas | jelly-home, i'm sorry, i dont see how i can get from the web page in epiphany to apt-get. ? |
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| 18:46.38 | twobitsprite | boudiccas: apt-get is a commandline tool, you'll need to open a terminal |
| 18:47.03 | boudiccas | twobitsprite, yes, i'm running it a terminal as superuser |
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| 18:47.52 | jelly-home | boudiccas: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 18:47.57 | twobitsprite | then I guess I don't understand your question. What do you mean "get from the web page in epiphany to apt-get"? |
| 18:48.05 | boudiccas | the installation of a working libreoffice |
| 18:48.25 | jelly-home | boudiccas: are you, in fact, using the testing release of debian, or not? |
| 18:48.47 | boudiccas | twobitsprite, i cna see the package in theweb page in epiphany but i dont understand hwo to get reflected in apt-get |
| 18:49.31 | boudiccas | jelly-home, probably not, i'm sticking to the default repos for the moment, but i would really like to use libreoffice |
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| 18:50.10 | jelly-home | boudiccas: you have installed it already, did it not work? |
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| 18:50.25 | jelly-home | (the packages from upstream) |
| 18:50.43 | boudiccas | have i? i didnt think that it had completed, i must do some looking around then |
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| 18:52.45 | andornaut | anyone know how i can install grub onto a new debian install after the installation failed to install grub? I can boot into debian's live cd, do i need to copy any grub executables over? |
| 18:53.03 | smam | i have usb problem, when i connect usb in windows in works and when i connect usb in debain in doesnt |
| 18:53.21 | smam | doesnt show up |
| 18:53.26 | robokop | andornaut: livecd, and chroot in the target system |
| 18:53.41 | dvs | and run grub-install |
| 18:53.50 | andornaut | robokop: k |
| 18:53.54 | robokop | smam: look at the last lines of dmesg just after you plugged it in |
| 18:54.02 | andornaut | dvs: grub isnt installed after i chroot though |
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| 18:54.24 | robokop | andornaut: you want to bind mount at least /dev in the chroot |
| 18:54.43 | smam | robokop? didnt get u |
| 18:55.20 | robokop | smam: if you plug in your usb device most likely dmesg will tell something |
| 18:55.37 | smam | what is dmesg? |
| 18:55.54 | robokop | dmesg is a command that shows the kernel messages (basically) |
| 18:56.01 | cads | is there a spin of debian that aims to be a business computing solution? |
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| 18:56.03 | boudiccas | jelly-home, i've looked in /usr/bin/ and didnt see any sign of swriter or libreoffice, and i'm at a loss to know what to do next, or where to look?? |
| 18:56.41 | cads | with enterprise scale management tools like redhat or suse |
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| 18:57.10 | jelly-home | boudiccas: "lowriter" perhaps? |
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| 18:57.44 | jelly-home | boudiccas: "dpkg -L libreoffice3-writer" will show the contents of that package |
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| 18:59.00 | boudiccas | jelly-home, oh right, thanks for that. found it |
| 18:59.15 | smam | roboktop |
| 18:59.37 | robokop | smam: use pastebin to put output of commands |
| 18:59.37 | smam | did demsg command |
| 18:59.44 | robokop | !pastebin |
| 18:59.44 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 18:59.53 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell boudiccas about refcard |
| 19:00.00 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell boudiccas about search |
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| 19:00.27 | smam | pastebin? |
| 19:00.32 | ksk | wgetpaste? sounds cool :> |
| 19:00.43 | smam | use pastebin to put output of commands? |
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| 19:02.17 | robokop | yeah smam, open a terminal and run dmesg there, then post the output in pastebin |
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| 19:02.51 | smam | how to post out in pastebin |
| 19:02.58 | smam | how to post output in pastebin |
| 19:03.06 | Arrowmaster | !pastebinit |
| 19:03.06 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". |
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| 19:04.39 | sporto | hello, i made a boo boo lol, i installed debian squeeze by deleting my winXP partition and now i cant boot to win7 (and i wanna play portal2 lol) |
| 19:05.01 | smam | there is no such command as pastebinit |
| 19:05.07 | dvs | sporto: And this is a problem because...? ;-) |
| 19:05.07 | sporto | ^ os-probe doesn't see win7 |
| 19:05.22 | sporto | i wanna play portal2 :p |
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| 19:05.36 | dvs | smam: Did you read the entire pastebinit instructions? |
| 19:05.55 | freeone3000 | I'm having an issue with an ARM9 system undergoing upgrades. http://codepad.org/hY5Em1RN is my error; what's the cause? |
| 19:06.08 | smam | dvs my cannot use apt-get command it got corrupted |
| 19:06.14 | smam | dvs my debian cannot use apt-get command it got corrupted |
| 19:06.27 | dvs | smam: aptitude too? |
| 19:06.55 | sporto | update-grub only finds debian :( |
| 19:07.50 | dvs | sporto: is os-prober installed? |
| 19:08.02 | sporto | dvs: yes |
| 19:08.43 | smam | aptitude command isnt working |
| 19:08.52 | daft | smam: dpkg |
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| 19:09.07 | smam | dpkg what more |
| 19:09.08 | dpkg | [more] a program on Unix and Unix-like systems used to view (but not change) the contents of a text file one screen at a time. It is similar to less, but only allows forward navigation through the file (although newer implementations of more do allow for limited backward movement). See also <less>. |
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| 19:09.47 | daft | lolz |
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| 19:10.34 | twobitsprite | less > more |
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| 19:11.00 | Yeretik | can anybody help me with a debmirror line that help me to download the full openthinclient repository ? |
| 19:11.04 | arghh2d2 | !sns |
| 19:11.04 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 19:11.24 | daft | smam: when did it all got corrupted. if you have a filled /var/cache/apt/archives you can use dpkg to reinstall them |
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| 19:11.30 | smam | spkg is working |
| 19:11.38 | smam | dpkg is working |
| 19:11.38 | dpkg | smam: bugger all, i dunno |
| 19:12.07 | sporto_ | dvs: sry, dropped out |
| 19:12.08 | daft | you have a filled /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
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| 19:12.40 | sporto_ | os-prober is installed |
| 19:13.01 | smam | daft ?? |
| 19:13.11 | Yeretik | daft ? It was for me ? |
| 19:13.11 | smam | i am not getting u |
| 19:13.31 | daft | sorry was reading back |
| 19:13.35 | sporto_ | dvs: even the win7 disc cant find the partition, but i can mount it lol |
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| 19:14.06 | sporto_ | lol |
| 19:14.12 | sporto_ | dvs_: even the win7 disc cant find the partition, but i can mount it lol |
| 19:14.15 | Yeretik | Can anybody help me with a debmirror line that help me to download the full openthinclient repository ? |
| 19:14.22 | daft | smam: i cant find back your original problem (wasnt in chat) whats your problem again |
| 19:14.35 | freeone3000 | Speaking of pointless upgrades. I'm having an issue with an ARM9 system undergoing upgrades. http://codepad.org/hY5Em1RN is my error; what's the cause? Is it the locale settings? LC_ALL is set, but why else wouldn't it be able to find the file? |
| 19:14.49 | daft | sporto_, can you run it with qemu/kvm :) |
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| 19:15.12 | smam | usb problem it workin in windows , but usb now showing in debain |
| 19:15.14 | Jarvis | hmm, theres a slight issue with the gir1.2-edataserver-1.2 : Depends: libedataserver1.2-14 (>= 3.0.0) but 2.32.2-4 is to be installed |
| 19:15.22 | Jarvis | oops |
| 19:15.36 | Jarvis | it appears that libedata v3.0 only exists in experimental |
| 19:15.55 | daft | que smacnay |
| 19:16.02 | daft | sorry smam .. |
| 19:16.08 | Jarvis | is it worth dropping in a bug report for it ? |
| 19:16.45 | smam | that didnt fix |
| 19:16.52 | sporto_ | dvs: install qemu... |
| 19:17.04 | daft | prolly Sid isnt it Jarvis, how long is gir1.2-edataserver-1.2 in sid |
| 19:17.36 | daft | smam I am not following you |
| 19:17.49 | smam | deft......USB PROBLEM |
| 19:17.53 | smam | now can u follow |
| 19:18.02 | smam | it workin in windows |
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| 19:18.11 | Jarvis | a month if i'm reading this right daft |
| 19:18.20 | smam | but when i connnect usb in my computer debian it doesnt |
| 19:18.35 | twobitsprite | smam: dmesg | tail |
| 19:18.46 | twobitsprite | smam: do you see a new USB device message? |
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| 19:19.32 | smam | no <twobitsprite |
| 19:19.44 | Jarvis | ah no , |
| 19:19.57 | Jarvis | 9 days it dropped in on 10th apr |
| 19:20.18 | Jarvis | strange |
| 19:20.21 | smam | yes i see usb device msg |
| 19:20.32 | smam | twobitsprite yes i see usb device msg |
| 19:20.37 | twobitsprite | ok, then the device is being recognized |
| 19:20.38 | Jarvis | it seems as if half the packages generated by that source have migrated, and half have now |
| 19:20.41 | Jarvis | *not |
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| 19:20.58 | twobitsprite | smam: what kind of device is it, and what do you expect to happen when you plug it in |
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| 19:21.11 | sporto_ | daft: i can't find the option to boot from partition, my kid woke up (g2g) lol, thx for the help |
| 19:21.19 | dullboy | good evening. I'm looking for anything related to this "/usr removal" that has been proposed... |
| 19:21.21 | smam | it doesnt show up, |
| 19:21.31 | twobitsprite | "show up" where? |
| 19:21.42 | smam | it doesnt show up, storage media, |
| 19:21.46 | Jarvis | actually ignore me daft |
| 19:21.53 | Jarvis | i just realised something |
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| 19:22.04 | Jarvis | none of the packages for edataserver3 have |
| 19:22.12 | twobitsprite | smam: sorry, you'll have to be more specific |
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| 19:22.43 | twobitsprite | smam: are you expecting to see an icon on your desktop or something, is that what you mean? |
| 19:22.50 | smam | yes.. |
| 19:23.10 | smam | no icon comming |
| 19:23.19 | swilson06 | wtf? http://pastebin.com/gs6Nb6MP |
| 19:23.38 | Jarvis | i'll drop a bug in for gir1.2-edataserver-1.2 as it depends on something only in exp |
| 19:23.43 | twobitsprite | smam: are you running gnome or kde? |
| 19:23.44 | boudiccas | how do i install kde please? and then how do i boot into it as at the login stage i dont see any icons or anything which would allow me to change my desktop |
| 19:23.49 | smam | kde |
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| 19:24.05 | twobitsprite | !tell smam about kde automount |
| 19:24.32 | TheWarden | Could someone tell me which FreeTDS package I would install to use with PHP to connect MS SQL? I'm confused as to which one to use. |
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| 19:25.10 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: Do you have gnome now? |
| 19:25.13 | TheWarden | freetds-dev ? |
| 19:25.19 | boudiccas | jhutchins, yes |
| 19:25.28 | jhutchins_lt | TheWarden: -dev packages are headers for compiling things. |
| 19:25.34 | daft | boudiccas, try log out |
| 19:26.06 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: The desktop option will show up in the login screen - it may be something subtle but it will be there. |
| 19:26.15 | TheWarden | jhutchins: yeah that's what I thought... its just not clear to me which package to choose. Maybe I have to install from source I guess |
| 19:26.19 | smam | <twobitsprite> usb icon was showing up last week it just disappear few days back |
| 19:26.26 | jhutchins_lt | TheWarden: Shouldn't have to . |
| 19:26.44 | boudiccas | jhutchins_lt, okay thanks, i'll have another search for it |
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| 19:26.56 | TheWarden | jhutchins: well so far I can't figure out which one so that maybe my only option. I'm searching google too but no luck so far. |
| 19:27.34 | jhutchins_lt | boudiccas: You can just install kde - that will bring most of it. |
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| 19:27.41 | smam | <twobitsprite> usb icon was showing up last week it just disappear few days back |
| 19:27.45 | jhutchins_lt | !kde |
| 19:27.45 | dpkg | K Desktop Environment (KDE) is based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org/ for release news and other details. Not a window manager. To get or delete KDE, ask me about <install kde> or <remove kde> respectively. Ask your KDE questions in #debian-kde (irc.oftc.net), see also <kde_trouble>. http://wiki.debian.org/KDE KDE-related IRC channels: http://userbase.kde.org/IRC_Channels |
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| 19:28.54 | freeone3000 | Speaking of pointless upgrades. I'm having an issue with an ARM9 system undergoing upgrades. http://codepad.org/hY5Em1RN is my error; what's the cause? Is it the locale settings? It shouldn't be, those are reserved characters even in the default. Unless the default was chinese, for some reason. |
| 19:29.14 | freeone3000 | There's no locales generated, so I can't exactly change it. I just need a working dpkg; is there a way to override the failing script? |
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| 19:29.59 | Oday | sometimes i lose functionality of the keyboard (on Pidgin, in text editors, etc...), and so i have to (ctrl + alt + f1 to 7) to enter virtual console, and then get out to the GUI again in order to fix this, why would this happen? |
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| 19:30.54 | cahoot | Oday: no idea - but it might be useful to look at the logas |
| 19:31.04 | cahoot | Oday: logs |
| 19:31.06 | Oday | and sometimes i lose sound |
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| 19:31.54 | cahoot | Oday: like ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 19:32.11 | Gijs | configure: error: The required libssh2 library was not found. You can obtain that package from http://sourceforge.net/projects/libssh2/ |
| 19:32.26 | Gijs | libssh2-1 is already the newest version. |
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| 19:32.43 | cahoot | needing the -dev package? |
| 19:33.05 | Gijs | how= |
| 19:33.26 | cahoot | like libssh2-dev or such? |
| 19:34.37 | Gijs | Perfect |
| 19:34.39 | Gijs | Thanks |
| 19:35.49 | andornaut | robokop: I bind mounted dev in the chroot, copied over all grub files necessary to do a grub-install from the live cd, copied over the live cd's /boot/grub, and now when i reboot i get a grub prompt. Do you know what i should do next? |
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| 19:36.30 | robokop | andornaut: do you know if it is grub2 or grub-legacy |
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| 19:37.07 | andornaut | robokop: grub2 i believe (the /boot/grub/ had more files than i remember with grub-legacy) |
| 19:38.01 | andornaut | robokop: *though im not certain either way |
| 19:38.43 | robokop | andornaut: do you know what partition your system is? |
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| 19:39.56 | woonix | andornaut: It sounds like grub doesn't know what kernel to boot, either because there is no config file in /boot/grub or the locations it specifies are not valid. |
| 19:40.19 | andornaut | robokop: sda4. I tried to enter: kernel /boot/vmlinux... but I get unknown command 'kernel' |
| 19:40.37 | andornaut | woonix: yep, they're not valid, i just copied /boot/grub from the debian live cd |
| 19:41.14 | woonix | andornaut: ok, you can play with various commands from the grub prompt to boot your system if you want to try that first. |
| 19:41.26 | andornaut | linux /boot/<kernel img> worked - is that correct? |
| 19:41.36 | robokop | andornaut: yes |
| 19:41.45 | robokop | but give a root= option |
| 19:41.58 | robokop | and if you use initrd specify that one too |
| 19:42.07 | robokop | (most likely the case on debian systems |
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| 19:42.24 | andornaut | yep, i've specified root (hd0,4); initrc and linux, how do i initiate the boot? |
| 19:42.30 | andornaut | *initrd |
| 19:42.38 | Paul_E | in grub's command prompt, are you able to see the contents of /boot? |
| 19:42.47 | andornaut | Paul_E: yep |
| 19:42.49 | robokop | andornaut: boot |
| 19:43.12 | Paul_E | if I do ls (hd0,1), all I have is a grub directory with the grub files |
| 19:43.14 | andornaut | robokop: nice, worked. thanks. |
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| 19:43.20 | Paul_E | no initrd or vmlinuz |
| 19:43.31 | Paul_E | and I'm stuck at the grub> prompt on reboot. |
| 19:43.55 | robokop | Paul_E: other partitions that give you more luck? |
| 19:44.00 | andornaut | actully, didnt quite work, I'm stuck at (initramfs) |
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| 19:44.17 | Paul_E | robokop: Yup, other partitions have files in them. the boot partition appears to only have the grub files |
| 19:44.20 | robokop | andornaut: did you specify the root= option to the kernel |
| 19:44.27 | andornaut | robokop: thought i did, will retry |
| 19:44.51 | cobra-the-joker | hey there every one ... i am trying to connecto to my wireless network here but failed , can network manager detect Mixed WPA & WPA2 PSK keys ? |
| 19:45.00 | robokop | Paul_E: and your root partition what does /boot contain there? |
| 19:45.23 | Paul_E | robokop: (hd0,3)/boot/grub/* |
| 19:45.54 | robokop | Paul_E: no kernel and initrd images? |
| 19:46.17 | Paul_E | no, I'm typing ls (hd0,3)/boot/ and hitting tab and it just jumps me straight into grub/ |
| 19:46.18 | andornaut | robokop: same thing, back at initramfs :-/ When I entered root (hd0,4) it said it was an ext2 partition, but it's really ext4, I suppose that doesn't matter b/c of the backward compatibility? |
| 19:47.11 | robokop | andornaut: ext2 is fine idd, what is your exact /^linux .*$/ line |
| 19:47.41 | robokop | Paul_E: interesting what did you do before rebooting? |
| 19:48.23 | andornaut | robokop: linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-2-amd64 |
| 19:48.56 | Paul_E | robokop: well... I upgraded lenny to squeeze and then attempted the upgrade-from-grub-legacy stuff and when prompted, selected the boot partition to install it to and it never rebooted.. came up with grub error 15. |
| 19:49.01 | andornaut | and initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-2-amd64 ; root (hd0,4) |
| 19:49.26 | robokop | andornaut: make that linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-2-amd64 root=/dev/sda5 |
| 19:49.39 | Paul_E | robokop: Had the datacenter boot it into Knoppix and tried reinstalling grub to the partition using grub-install, and now on reboot it just goes straight to the grub command line |
| 19:50.01 | freeone3000 | It seems debian packages have binary-armel, but no longer binary-arm. Is there a difference? Can I upgrade to binary-armel? How? |
| 19:50.01 | robokop | it looks like there aren't any kernels there |
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| 19:50.47 | Paul_E | robokop: That's what i'm thinking. My plan now is to get them to boot back into knoppix and copy over my /boot directory from another squeeze server. Would that work? |
| 19:51.32 | robokop | Paul_E: if they are the same arch then yes |
| 19:51.56 | Paul_E | robokop: Yes, they are. Once I do that, will I be able to recover from the grub command line? |
| 19:52.30 | andornaut | robokop: im pretty sure it's sda4, but i tried both root=/dev/sda4 and root=/dev/sda5 and in both cases i get "error: no such disk." after the linux /boot/... command. Aside: it's weird, b/c i thought the partitions in grub were 0-based) |
| 19:52.47 | andornaut | root (hd0,4) works for me, and it picks up the /dev/sda4 partition |
| 19:52.57 | andornaut | and thereafter tab complete works |
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| 19:53.06 | Paul_E | andornaut: From what I've been reading trying to figure out my issue, I think the disks are 0 based and the partitions are 1 |
| 19:53.07 | andornaut | but, if i do root=/dev/sda4|5 it doesnt |
| 19:53.15 | andornaut | Paul_E: ah thx |
| 19:53.37 | Paul_E | but... you sound further along than I am so.... take that with a grain of salt ;) |
| 19:53.52 | andornaut | Paul_E: no, you're right |
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| 19:54.18 | jhutchins_lt | My "switch user" option seems to have disappered from my lenny ltsp session. |
| 19:54.33 | jhutchins_lt | On kde. |
| 19:55.24 | jhutchins_lt | Anybody know how that's enabled? |
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| 19:58.08 | andornaut | If i try to boot without specifying an initrd img, i get: Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(254,13) - anyone know what that would indicate? |
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| 19:58.54 | robokop | andornaut: some required modules are in your initrd most likely |
| 19:59.04 | andornaut | robokop: ah |
| 19:59.22 | Bushmills | andornaut: what file system is your / ? |
| 19:59.40 | Bushmills | ah, no. never mind |
| 19:59.42 | andornaut | Bushmills: i just have a single partition for debian, ext4 |
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| 20:15.29 | Computer | besides iptables, is there another firewall service that comes installed and enabled on debian stable out of the box? |
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| 20:15.54 | Computer | ive flushed iptables so it should be accepting all connections out/in/forward |
| 20:16.09 | Computer | but when i nmap -p 18082 from another computer, it shows that the port is closed |
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| 20:17.12 | petemc | Computer: is there something listening on that port? |
| 20:17.48 | jhutchins | Computer: What makes you think something should be listening on that port? |
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| 20:18.02 | jhutchins | Computer: No, by default debian is not firewalled. |
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| 20:18.52 | andornaut | when does the /proc dir get populated, is that on boot? |
| 20:19.03 | andornaut | ... and does it persist? |
| 20:19.06 | jhutchins | I don't understand this switch user option in the menu. It's there on this system, but it doesn't show up in the editor. On my ltsp box, it tries to run startx, and doesn't work now, though it did when I first built it. |
| 20:19.18 | jhutchins | andornaut: Yes, no. |
| 20:19.24 | andornaut | jhutchins: thanks |
| 20:19.46 | andornaut | jhutchins: same for dev? |
| 20:19.51 | andornaut | */dev |
| 20:20.06 | jhutchins | andornaut: /dev is managed by udev these days, but essentially the same is true. |
| 20:20.13 | andornaut | jhutchins: thx |
| 20:20.18 | jhutchins | andornaut: /proc will also change depending on what the system is doing. |
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| 20:20.41 | jhutchins | andornaut: For instance, if you load a new filesystem driver, /proc/filesystems will reflect that. |
| 20:20.54 | andornaut | jhutchins: so, if i rm -rf /dev /proc , they would get recreated or does the dir need to exist? |
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| 20:21.25 | andornaut | * this a non-running partition |
| 20:21.35 | jhutchins | andornaut: You would probably screw up the system badly enough that it wouldn't continue to run. You can try it though, I don't believe it could cause any permanent harm. |
| 20:21.43 | jhutchins | andornaut: Oh. Yes then. |
| 20:21.52 | krasko | hi |
| 20:21.52 | krasko | Apr 19 22:14:43 krprgho kernel: [588999.824310] unix_chkpwd[5874] general protection ip:7f7c61deb5c0 sp:7fff54dcf2c0 error:0 in ld-2.7.so[7f7c61dd7000+1c000] |
| 20:22.02 | krasko | what the hell is that? |
| 20:22.02 | andornaut | jhutchins: yeah, i wonder if halt would work if the sys was running =) |
| 20:22.05 | jhutchins | andornaut: I would anticipate a slight (probably unnoticable delay on restart. |
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| 20:22.10 | jelly-home | krasko: that... is a segfault. |
| 20:22.30 | krasko | chkpwd segfaul? |
| 20:22.33 | jelly-home | yes |
| 20:22.44 | krasko | i dont see anything like this.. |
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| 20:22.53 | jelly-home | it segfaulted and probably died |
| 20:23.03 | krasko | yes, few minutes later |
| 20:23.12 | jelly-home | end of story for that process |
| 20:23.13 | krasko | how can i debbug that please? |
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| 20:23.56 | jhutchins | andornaut: Come to think of it, /proc and /dev should be empty mount points on a non-running system... |
| 20:24.08 | jelly-home | krasko: build it with debug symbols, make it able to dump core, and use gdb to inspect the coredump |
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| 20:24.21 | jelly-home | (next time it segfaults) |
| 20:24.35 | jhutchins | jelly-home: Why would there be entries in /proc and /dev if the system isn't running? |
| 20:24.41 | jelly-home | krasko: the first step may already be present in your distro |
| 20:24.47 | andornaut | jhutchins: they should, i messed that up a bit while trying to get my new install working (afte the installer failed to install grub) |
| 20:25.00 | jelly-home | wait, it's the debian channel. the first step _is_ already present |
| 20:25.00 | krasko | jelly-home: thanks |
| 20:25.24 | krasko | yes |
| 20:25.26 | jelly-home | jhutchins: a silly person copied them there |
| 20:25.41 | jhutchins | jelly-home: So it would seem. |
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| 20:26.14 | jelly-home | jhutchins: that's for /proc. /dev/might actually have static entries from before the udev times |
| 20:26.35 | andornaut | jelly-home: how'bout on a new install? |
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| 20:27.00 | jelly-home | andornaut: sorry? |
| 20:27.22 | andornaut | jelly-home: would /dev have static entries on a new install that uses udev ? |
| 20:27.47 | jelly-home | andornaut: I don't know. |
| 20:28.02 | andornaut | jelly-home: let's hope not =-) |
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| 20:28.15 | jelly-home | why? |
| 20:28.37 | andornaut | jelly-home: b/c I removed the dir :-/ |
| 20:28.52 | jelly-home | static /dev entries are useful in absence of udev in some anomalous situations |
| 20:29.02 | andornaut | perhaps that explains why i'm stuck at initramfs =) |
| 20:29.29 | andornaut | so, i'm going to start this all again. Please let me know if the following sounds reasonable (assuming the installer fails to install grub again) |
| 20:29.56 | Computer | really good point jhutchins. thank you |
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| 20:31.21 | bersace | Hi |
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| 20:31.55 | andornaut | 1) install again, 2) boot into live cd, 3) copy over grub files from live cd: grub-install, /boot/grub/, etc; 4) bind mount /dev into the install partition; 5) grub-install; 6) reboot; 7) enter grub commands for: root, linux and initrd; then boot and it should work? |
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| 20:32.12 | jelly-home | andornaut: no need to install again. |
| 20:32.12 | bersace | Even if i install python-gobject provides python2.5-gobject and python2.6-gobject, python-gconf complain about no python2.5-gobject |
| 20:32.29 | bersace | aptitude tells it has only python2.6-gobject, not 2.5 |
| 20:32.43 | andornaut | jelly-home: well... not sure how to get past the initramfs. |
| 20:32.43 | bersace | do you have a clue on how to fix that (debian unstable) |
| 20:32.45 | bersace | ? |
| 20:33.17 | MrFrood | !unstable |
| 20:33.18 | dpkg | [unstable] The status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/ See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>. |
| 20:33.32 | jelly-home | andornaut: fix your current setup instead. boot into livecd, mount the hdd system, bind-mount /dev, /sys, /proc, verify /etc/default/grub is correct, run update-grub, run grub-install if you really need to, reboot |
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| 20:34.12 | mesutcan | hi, i've installed nvidia-glx but it still cant find nvidia driver |
| 20:34.15 | mesutcan | what should i do ? |
| 20:34.20 | andornaut | jelly-home: well, my /etc/default/grub is just from the live cd (the installation did not install grub) |
| 20:34.22 | Mmike | If I didn't know better I'd fall in love with dpkg. |
| 20:34.37 | jelly-home | andornaut: that's probably why it's horribly wrong |
| 20:34.44 | andornaut | jelly-home: yep |
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| 20:35.09 | andornaut | jelly-home: but i figured i could just specify the boot options at the grub prompt , boot, apt-get install grub... |
| 20:35.24 | andornaut | jelly-home: what would you do in this situation? |
| 20:35.47 | jelly-home | andornaut: I'd specify the boot options at grub prompt :-) |
| 20:35.57 | andornaut | jelly-home: hehe |
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| 20:35.59 | jelly-home | you seem to be doing things mostly right |
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| 20:36.28 | jelly-home | andornaut: do you get a grub menu? |
| 20:37.11 | andornaut | jelly-home: i didnt copy over /etc/defaults/grub btw just /boot/grub. There is no boot menu. I also didnt run update-grub (mostly b/c i didnt copy that executable over from the live cd) |
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| 20:37.28 | andornaut | i can try again, and perform those steps... |
| 20:38.14 | jelly-home | andornaut: oh. then boot livecd, mount, bind-mount, chroot, install grub-pc package |
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| 20:38.16 | Danic | hi |
| 20:38.23 | ctmjr | mesutcan, nvidia-glx is not the driver it is glx (hardware acceleration) for the nvidia driver |
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| 20:38.41 | jelly-home | andornaut: or grub-legacy if you're more amicable with old grub |
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| 20:38.59 | Danic | I have a file with weird characters in the file name and I want to rename it. but it gives a lot of errors. I tried "..:" and '...' to tell debian that i dont want to use any modificators etc. What should i do? |
| 20:38.59 | mesutcan | ctmjr: what should i do to install nvidia driver ? |
| 20:39.39 | andornaut | jelly-home: don't have network working atm. I use an atheros wireless , eth0 seems not to work (think it may be defective, actually). Maybe i'll try to fix this first in the chroot environment |
| 20:39.47 | mesutcan | ctmjr: i've looked at Xorg.0.log and it says unable to load the NVIDIA kernel module |
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| 20:40.32 | dvs | andornaut: If you're using atheros, then wifi should be wlan0 |
| 20:40.37 | rubin110 | Is there a way to list what the current active name servers are if I'm using DHCP? |
| 20:41.16 | petemc | rubin110: look in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 20:41.19 | dvs | rubin110: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 20:41.19 | andornaut | dvs: yep, thx |
| 20:41.23 | ctmjr | mesutcan, here read this http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 20:41.29 | dvs | andornaut: np |
| 20:41.32 | rubin110 | Does dhcp write to resolve.conf? |
| 20:41.34 | jelly-home | rubin110: debian has this resolvconf integration tool that puts the name servers gotten from dhcp server into... the file they all said |
| 20:41.43 | rubin110 | I see. |
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| 20:42.39 | andornaut | jelly-home: i want to bind mount /proc /dev, and /sys too? |
| 20:42.46 | jelly-home | andornaut: yes |
| 20:42.51 | andornaut | k |
| 20:43.21 | jelly-home | well grub-install probably doesn't need /proc, but it won't hurt and you really want /sys |
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| 20:44.03 | mesutcan | ctmjr: if i use testing repository it cant find required package, trying with unstable repository |
| 20:44.10 | mesutcan | ctmjr: thanks |
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| 20:44.56 | mesutcan | ctmjr: here it is, i found missing package :) |
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| 20:50.17 | andornaut | jelly-home: worked! Thanks very much. I didnt realize that you could generate a working grub configuration using update-grub (and by copying over /etc/default/grub) ... so much easier =) |
| 20:50.38 | andornaut | jelly-home: problem now is i cant get eth0 up, and i dont have an wlan software installed so... suggestions? |
| 20:50.50 | dvs | ... |
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| 20:51.33 | andornaut | think i can get wicd binaries and copy them over (usb) ? |
| 20:51.49 | andornaut | i mean, would that be sufficient or are the dependencies / services it requires too complex |
| 20:52.12 | andornaut | i could also disable wpa for the time being |
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| 20:54.04 | andornaut | iwconfig might do it... |
| 20:54.21 | mesutcan | ctmjr: i've installed kernel module but it still says failed to initialize NVIDIA kernel module |
| 20:55.02 | mesutcan | ctmjr: i've installed nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel${VERSION}-$(uname -r) |
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| 20:55.54 | jelly-home | !rube goldberg install |
| 20:55.54 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke." |
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| 20:56.26 | friese2 | hmm |
| 20:56.36 | friese2 | i've got an usb punchcard-reader :) |
| 20:57.12 | ctmjr | mesutcan, did you follow the guide? under debian way and if your using unstable it is hit and miss that's why it is called unstable |
| 20:57.38 | mesutcan | ctmjr: Ok, i'll tryy it once again |
| 20:58.07 | andornaut | if you get "receive_packet failed on eth0: Network is down" does that indicate a cabling or hw problem? |
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| 20:58.44 | jelly-home | andornaut: dunno about wicd |
| 20:59.00 | jelly-home | andornaut: does ifconfig eth0 up remedy it?\ |
| 20:59.06 | andornaut | jelly-home: well, im gonna try copying over the iwconfig binary and see if that helps |
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| 20:59.32 | jelly-home | andornaut: it's possible you have an evil wired ethernet card that also needs firmware to work (well) |
| 20:59.33 | andornaut | jelly-home: nope. i tried restart udev (worked when i tested debian in a virtualbox vm and ran into this problem) but that didn't help |
| 21:00.07 | jelly-home | andornaut: lspci -nn will show its pci-id |
| 21:00.24 | jelly-home | [xxxx:xxxx] |
| 21:00.26 | andornaut | jelly-home: it's a Realtech gigabit |
| 21:00.33 | jelly-home | pci-id! |
| 21:00.45 | dvs | there are several of those |
| 21:00.49 | andornaut | [10ec:8168] |
| 21:00.57 | jelly-home | ,pciid 10ec:8168 |
| 21:00.59 | judd | [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8168 |
| 21:01.00 | dvs | needs firmware |
| 21:01.13 | andornaut | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.27 | jelly-home | !rtl |
| 21:01.27 | dpkg | Realtek is a developer of semiconductors. For Ethernet chipset information, ask me about <rtl8029>, <rtl8139>, <rtl8101e>, <rtl8211c>, <rtl8168d>. For wireless LAN chipset information, ask me about <rtl-wifi>, <rtl819x>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 21:01.47 | jelly-home | !rtl8168 |
| 21:01.52 | jelly-home | !rtl8168d |
| 21:01.52 | dpkg | [rtl8168d] The Realtek RTL8111D/RTL8168D Ethernet controller is supported by the <r8169> driver since Linux 2.6.31. Firmware patches (rtl8168d-1.fw, rtl8168d-2.fw) for use with linux-2.6 2.6.32-20 and later are packaged for Debian since firmware-nonfree 0.28, ask me about <realtek firmware>; these allow one gigabit operation with a wider variety of cables and link partners. |
| 21:01.59 | jelly-home | ... |
| 21:02.05 | dvs | heh |
| 21:02.10 | jelly-home | so yeah |
| 21:02.25 | jelly-home | !realtek firmware |
| 21:02.25 | dpkg | Firmware from userspace is required by the <rtl8192e> and <rtl8192su> drivers. RTL8111D(L) firmware patches for <r8169> are packaged since firmware-nonfree 0.28. Ask me about <non-free sources>, then install the firmware-realtek package to provide. This package is not required for use of the <rtl8180>, <rtl8187> and <rtl8187se> drivers. See also <rtl8192u firmware>. |
| 21:02.47 | jelly-home | You're in a maze of twisty factoids, all alike |
| 21:02.50 | andornaut | hmm |
| 21:03.00 | andornaut | so, i'd need to install a non-free firmware? |
| 21:03.06 | andornaut | hard to do without network =) |
| 21:03.09 | dvs | at least it's in one package. |
| 21:03.18 | andornaut | yeah |
| 21:03.23 | jelly-home | andornaut: get firmware-realtek from packages.debian.org, put it on a usb stick |
| 21:03.36 | dvs | it says firmware-nonfree |
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| 21:03.40 | andornaut | thanks guys |
| 21:04.09 | jelly-home | ,file rtl8168d-1.fw |
| 21:04.13 | judd | rtl8168d-1.fw in squeeze/i386: firmware-realtek: lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw |
| 21:04.21 | dvs | confusing |
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| 21:05.00 | andornaut | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-realtek |
| 21:05.43 | jelly-home | wheezy sneezy |
| 21:05.48 | andornaut | hehe |
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| 21:06.50 | jelly-home | the one for squeeze matches your squeeze kernel, but the newer one should be backwards compatible as well |
| 21:07.28 | andornaut | k, copying to usb now |
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| 21:09.50 | jelly-home | install, rmmod r8169, modprobe it back again, see if networking can be brought up |
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| 21:10.22 | jelly-home | or install, reboot but rebooting can bre annoyingly slow |
| 21:11.00 | andornaut | jelly-home: done. lsmod says mii 12634 1 r8169 |
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| 21:11.30 | jelly-home | and that other r8169 line. |
| 21:11.47 | andornaut | sorry? |
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| 21:12.03 | jelly-home | that's not the only line in lsmod|grep r8169 |
| 21:12.15 | andornaut | r8169 37209 0 \ mii 12634 1 r8169 |
| 21:12.20 | jelly-home | yeah |
| 21:12.29 | jelly-home | does it work better now? |
| 21:12.52 | andornaut | DHCPDISOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 prot 67 interval 8\ send_packet: Network is down |
| 21:13.00 | andornaut | hmm |
| 21:13.02 | jelly-home | ifconfig eth0 up? |
| 21:13.13 | andornaut | jelly-home: yep, no ip tho |
| 21:13.34 | jelly-home | well you can hope for a bad cable |
| 21:13.44 | andornaut | could be a bad cable? gonna reboot and try a known good cable |
| 21:13.50 | erAbuelo | hasta mañana |
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| 21:14.04 | andornaut | unfortunately, the only known good cable is the one that im typing from. I'll brb in 5 min - hopefully to report success |
| 21:14.34 | jelly-home | andornaut: I'm gone; my eyes are watering and some allergy is killing me (not literally) |
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| 21:20.56 | ws2k3 | hello guys i working with iptables to let the people behind the iptables can connect to the internet. port forwarding i already got working i can from the outside connect to the ports openend i want but they cannot connect the internet. |
| 21:21.33 | ws2k3 | this are my rules now. http://paste.debian.net/114520/ |
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| 21:23.57 | andornaut | no luck :-( |
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| 21:24.20 | andornaut | so... now, to try getting wireless working w/o a GUI (got this far, cant give up) |
| 21:24.31 | SolomonKull | andornaut: sido ifconfig eth0 192.168.x.xx Where the IP address is the one you want to assign |
| 21:24.40 | SolomonKull | sudo* |
| 21:24.56 | twobitsprite | ws2k3: which ports are you having problems with? |
| 21:25.04 | ws2k3 | all:) |
| 21:25.09 | ws2k3 | outgoing. |
| 21:25.17 | jhutchins_lt | SolomonKull: Is sudo enabled by default now? |
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| 21:25.30 | SolomonKull | jhutchins_lt: enabled by default by who or what? |
| 21:25.31 | andornaut | anyone SolomonKull SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address" |
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| 21:25.55 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: WHat have you done so far? |
| 21:25.56 | twobitsprite | ws2k3: can you please pastebin the full "iptables -L" output? |
| 21:25.58 | ws2k3 | i have some virtual mnachines running on debian. and i can connect to the the virtual machines using rdp so the port is openened fine |
| 21:26.05 | TheWarden | Is there a software one can install to have an update manager that lets you know what updates are available for the packages installed on the system and then would install them if desired? Similar to Update Manager in Ubuntu. |
| 21:26.10 | ws2k3 | but my virtual machine cant connect to the internet. |
| 21:26.21 | TheWarden | I would like it to check at a certain frequency for package updates. |
| 21:26.24 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: WRT to the network or installing grub after the installation failed ot? |
| 21:26.27 | twobitsprite | ohh, you have virtual machines too, that complicates things a bit |
| 21:26.28 | SolomonKull | ws2k3: bridged connection? NAT? |
| 21:26.50 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Well, I was thinking of wifi, but whichever is important to you. |
| 21:26.54 | twobitsprite | ws2k3: VMWare? Virtualbox? |
| 21:27.10 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: WRT networking: installed realtek firmware deb, tried a known good ethernet cable, tried connecting it directly to the cable modem. |
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| 21:27.29 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-home: What was it earlier about one of the hypervisors not working with rdp? |
| 21:27.35 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: re: wireless - Im just starting. Trying to figure out which debs to download and then transfer via usb |
| 21:27.59 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: The cabled connection didn't work? |
| 21:28.40 | cdahmedeh | hello, two questions : 1) what is the proper way to autoload a module at bootup, and 2) start some applications at bootup like znc (need to start as a normal user), 3) configuration: debian squeeze on i386, headless, intel atom |
| 21:29.00 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: nope. not sure why :-/. Im starting to suspect a hw problem - but... im surprised that eth0 is showing up at all then. Any diagnostic I could try? |
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| 21:29.17 | twobitsprite | cdahmedeh: /etc/modules.conf |
| 21:29.17 | jhutchins_lt | dhclient eth0 (as root) |
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| 21:29.33 | twobitsprite | cdahmedeh: er... just /etc/modules |
| 21:29.49 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: Cannot assign requested address |
| 21:30.07 | cdahmedeh | thanks twobitsprite |
| 21:30.18 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Is network manager running? |
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| 21:30.54 | andornaut | actually... i should try directly connected to the modem again, and run dhclient eth0 |
| 21:30.54 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: not installed, no GUI |
| 21:30.54 | jhutchins_lt | well, /etc/init.d/networking restart |
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| 21:31.11 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: Network is down, error |
| 21:31.16 | jhutchins_lt | I guess you can't pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:32.42 | cdahmedeh | twobitsprite: do you know how to start an application at startup on headless ? it needs to be run as a normal user aswell |
| 21:32.51 | andornaut | http://pastebin.com/ddQCPkyD |
| 21:33.28 | twobitsprite | cdahmedeh: put a start/stop script in /etc/init.d/ and use update-rc.d to add it to the run levels |
| 21:33.28 | TheWarden | yeah best to ignore my question as that was a majorly dumb one. I didn't open my eyes before asking :) |
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| 21:33.48 | twobitsprite | !tell cdahmedeh -about startup |
| 21:33.49 | cdahmedeh | twobitsprite: ok thanks, can su be used to run an application as a normal user ? |
| 21:34.06 | twobitsprite | cdahmedeh: what is your application? |
| 21:34.17 | cdahmedeh | i have two, znc, and VirtualBox |
| 21:34.40 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Ach, Not quite. |
| 21:35.01 | twobitsprite | cdahmedeh: virtualbox comes with a startup script I believe |
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| 21:35.16 | foetus | cp module.ko /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/somedir && depmod $(uname -r) && modprobe modulename |
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| 21:35.31 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Remove eth0 from line one or remove line 2 |
| 21:35.38 | twobitsprite | cdahmedeh: and being as znc is an IRC proxy, I bet it comes with a startup script too |
| 21:35.45 | cdahmedeh | twobitsprite: ok i'll check it out, thanks for the info about init.d |
| 21:35.50 | twobitsprite | np |
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| 21:36.00 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: k |
| 21:36.21 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: ps ax | grep manager |
| 21:36.38 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: no manager |
| 21:36.50 | cdahmedeh | yeah it's pretty neat to have a home server, lots of cool stuff you can do with it |
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| 21:36.54 | andornaut | if i remove it from the auto line, then /etc/init.d/networking restart only brings up lo |
| 21:37.02 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Restart networking again. |
| 21:37.24 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: lo only |
| 21:38.10 | jhutchins_lt | ok, comment out allow-hotplug |
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| 21:38.26 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Add eth0 to the auto line again. |
| 21:39.09 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 255.255.255.255 ... \ send_packet: Network is down |
| 21:39.20 | andornaut | * after /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 21:39.22 | cdahmedeh | twobitsprite: i'm going to use the init.d skeleton template, su is the proper way to start an application as a normal user, correct ? |
| 21:39.45 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Hm. Lights good on the connection? |
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| 21:40.27 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: no lights on the laptop nic, nor on the router (dont think either has link lights) |
| 21:40.50 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Ah. What was the model again? |
| 21:41.32 | foetus | sounds like unsupported hardware.. |
| 21:41.44 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: realtek - RTL8111/8168B |
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| 21:42.03 | andornaut | foetus: i downloaded realtek firmware earlier |
| 21:42.26 | andornaut | installed r8169 module |
| 21:42.35 | foetus | yes, its tricky :) |
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| 21:42.55 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Looking. |
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| 21:44.08 | andornaut | i've also downloaded wireless-tools and related deps and installed them (via usb). I don't see any wlan devices tho... lspci shows Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapater |
| 21:44.48 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: You installed firmware realtek? |
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| 21:44.57 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: yep |
| 21:45.00 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: firmware-realtek? |
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| 21:45.34 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Shows in lsmod? |
| 21:45.36 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: yep, thanks to some help here |
| 21:45.44 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: yep |
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| 21:47.04 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: squeeze? |
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| 21:47.23 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: got wireless working w/ iwconfig :) |
| 21:47.39 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: wheezy |
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| 21:48.08 | boudiccas | has anyone installed the kde programme quantas, if so, what is the package called? |
| 21:49.05 | phogg | boudiccas: you mean quanta? |
| 21:49.09 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 21:49.10 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); wheezy: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-31); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-30~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
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| 21:49.17 | boudiccas | yes |
| 21:49.23 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Do you have the .38 kernel then? |
| 21:49.27 | boudiccas | phogg, yes |
| 21:50.09 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: up 38-2-amd64 |
| 21:50.21 | andornaut | *yup |
| 21:50.47 | bikcmp | hi all. |
| 21:50.51 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: I'm kindof at a loss then, ath9k should support your card. You should get link lights if the driver for the realtek is loaded. |
| 21:50.51 | phogg | boudiccas: I don't know that it's available any longer. |
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| 21:50.57 | fpu | hello guys :-) |
| 21:51.00 | bikcmp | does anyone in here know if debian 6 supports the hp mini 110 out of the box? |
| 21:51.04 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: No errors when it loads (dmesg, syslog)? |
| 21:51.04 | bikcmp | (especially wireless) |
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| 21:51.10 | andornaut | so, the installer didn't configure my sources.list (there was no network at the time). what's the hostname for non-security updates? all i have is http://security.debian.org |
| 21:51.17 | boudiccas | oh, no! that was a really good program |
| 21:51.17 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: checking |
| 21:51.34 | fpu | I want to use .img file on existing ext4 partition as / |
| 21:51.34 | jhutchins_lt | bikcmp: HP have failed to inform us what hardware it uses. |
| 21:51.58 | bikcmp | jhutchins_lt: what's interesting is ubuntu supports it... that's the only thing keeping me to ubuntu |
| 21:52.02 | jhutchins_lt | !wheezy sources |
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| 21:52.04 | fpu | I already got grub to load kernel and initrd, but it doesn't mount fs |
| 21:52.45 | phogg | boudiccas: there doesn't seem to be a qt4/kde4 version, but you can go and get the source. Last updated in 2007 |
| 21:52.46 | streuner_ | bikcmp: so why do you ask then? |
| 21:52.51 | fpu | perhaps anyone knows how to edit initrd so it mounts, let's say, /debian.img file on /dev/sda5 partition as /, and then runs /sbin/init from it? |
| 21:52.54 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: no errors that i can see |
| 21:53.05 | jhutchins_lt | bikcmp: Without knowing what hardware it uses we can't know if it supports debian, but debian is linux, so chances are you can get it to work. |
| 21:53.22 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: are the cards detected during boot (dmesg)? |
| 21:53.31 | bikcmp | jhutchins_lt: aye |
| 21:53.40 | bikcmp | streuner_: because i need to know if debian has it |
| 21:53.45 | bikcmp | as i'd love to go to debian |
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| 21:54.00 | streuner_ | bikcmp: why? |
| 21:54.07 | MeglaW | so, i got ssh open 22 and it works from outside ( o have a box offsite to nmap and test, and i do have www (443), but irc (6668) just refuses, meglaw.no-ip.biz |
| 21:54.13 | fpu | bikcmp: with 99% certainty everything will work, but not without some fiddling |
| 21:54.30 | bikcmp | fpu: aye |
| 21:54.39 | bikcmp | i guess i might go try it out. |
| 21:54.44 | bikcmp | can't hurt, i mean |
| 21:54.59 | fpu | prepare for editing configuration files :-) |
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| 21:55.48 | fpu | hmm if no one knows, perhaps anyone has idea what channel is best for initrd help? |
| 21:56.26 | boudiccas | phogg, thanks, but in that case i'll stick with bluefish |
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| 21:56.45 | streuner_ | bikcmp: well, hardware support is basically a kernel thingie, and bunt or Debian just use a Linux kernel... |
| 21:56.57 | bikcmp | yeah |
| 21:57.55 | andornaut | jelly-home: thanks again for your help earlier |
| 21:58.19 | andornaut | jhutchins: thanks also. gonna get back to the eth0 problem after i have the rest of the system installed now that wlan0 is up |
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| 21:59.57 | creichen | Hello! My keyboard/pointing device recently stopped woring in X11 (after a sid update). I recovered by force-loading evdev + psmouse + synaptics-i2c. Now only the IBM trackpoint works in X11, not the Synaptics touchpad. Both work fine on the console with gpm, though. Any ideas? |
| 22:00.02 | jhutchins | andornaut: Wow, got it working, eh? |
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| 22:00.08 | creichen | s/woring/working/ |
| 22:00.21 | andornaut | jhutchins: well, the wireless, not the wired |
| 22:00.28 | jhutchins | Cool. |
| 22:00.43 | andornaut | wireless-tools -> iwconfig ... much easier than i was expecting |
| 22:00.57 | jhutchins | I know there was a CentOS kernel where we had to compile the actual 8168 driver, the 8169 wouldn't work. |
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| 22:01.03 | andornaut | jhutchins: i guess i was lucky that i didnt need special firmware either |
| 22:01.14 | fpu | andornaut: out of curiosity, what's your problem with eth0? |
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| 22:01.45 | jhutchins | No link lights could be bad cable or the port could be disabled on the router. |
| 22:01.53 | andornaut | fpu: I have a realtek r8168B realtek nic. I installed the r8169 kernel module. Can't get it to work |
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| 22:02.03 | jhutchins | If the driver is loaded the link light should come on. |
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| 22:02.11 | andornaut | jhutchins: I tried using the same cable & port that im typing from :). also tried connecting straight to the modem |
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| 22:02.52 | andornaut | jhutchins: i'll try the modem again b/c i dont remember if i had set a static ip or if i used dhcp (as i should) |
| 22:02.53 | jhutchins | cable modems sometimes lock to the MAC and have to be reset. |
| 22:03.08 | andornaut | jhutchins: i left it unplugged for 5 min, that's done the trick in the past in my experience |
| 22:03.15 | jhutchins | andornaut: No lightmeans no link. |
| 22:04.13 | andornaut | jhutchins: i dont think there are any lights on my router at all (at least, they're not on right now for the port that the computer im typing from is connected); not sure about the laptop tho... |
| 22:04.53 | foetus | ~ |
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| 22:05.12 | andornaut | there are no lights on on the laptop ... i suppose that all NICs have lights? |
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| 22:05.29 | jhutchins_lt | Most do. |
| 22:05.39 | jhutchins_lt | They build them into the jacks these days. |
| 22:05.51 | jhutchins_lt | Routers usually have them seperate. |
| 22:06.01 | jhutchins_lt | On the opposite side or something, |
| 22:06.07 | andornaut | jhutchins: ya, i get the same error with the cable disconnected as i do with it connected. Possible that the nic itself is just bad |
| 22:06.30 | jhutchins_lt | True. |
| 22:06.39 | jhutchins_lt | module loads with no errors though? |
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| 22:07.09 | andornaut | jhutchins: hmm... (im stupid btw, hehe, i didnt check the other side of the router) - the router lights up when i connect it to the laptop - does this mean there is a link? |
| 22:07.51 | andornaut | jhutchins: no errors during modprobe r8169 |
| 22:07.55 | andornaut | !r8169 |
| 22:07.55 | dpkg | [r8169] the Realtek RTL8169/8168/8101 Gigabit Ethernet driver, included in the mainline Linux kernel. For controller specific information, ask me about <rtl8101e>, <rtl8168d>. A MDIO timing issue affecting DHCP operation (BTS #583139) was fixed in linux-2.6 2.6.26-24. Regression found in <6.0.1> (BTS #619173) and fixed in linux-2.6 2.6.32-32, ask me about <proposed-updates>. |
| 22:08.00 | jhutchins_lt | Well, it means one pair of the connection is good and that the NIC is active. |
| 22:08.01 | andornaut | !r8168B |
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| 22:08.06 | andornaut | !r8168 |
| 22:08.10 | jhutchins_lt | rt |
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| 22:08.32 | andornaut | hm, so that would mean it's less likely to be a faulty nic? |
| 22:08.36 | jhutchins_lt | !rtl8168d |
| 22:08.36 | dpkg | [rtl8168d] The Realtek RTL8111D/RTL8168D Ethernet controller is supported by the <r8169> driver since Linux 2.6.31. Firmware patches (rtl8168d-1.fw, rtl8168d-2.fw) for use with linux-2.6 2.6.32-20 and later are packaged for Debian since firmware-nonfree 0.28, ask me about <realtek firmware>; these allow one gigabit operation with a wider variety of cables and link partners. |
| 22:09.01 | andornaut | !rt8168B |
| 22:09.05 | andornaut | !rt8168b |
| 22:09.08 | foetus | lol |
| 22:09.13 | andornaut | i tried =) |
| 22:09.25 | andornaut | !rtl8168b |
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| 22:12.49 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: There is no b |
| 22:13.07 | jhutchins_lt | I think the b was the one we had trouble with. |
| 22:13.31 | foetus | try a livecd like finnix, maybe you're wiser then.. and you know the right module.. |
| 22:14.10 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: mine is RTL8111/8168B :-/... so ... this is the one you had to compile the firmware for? |
| 22:14.16 | foetus | helped me in case of my atheros lan. |
| 22:14.27 | foetus | !atheros |
| 22:14.28 | dpkg | Atheros Communications is a developer of semiconductors. Ask me about <ath5k>, <ath9k> or <ar9170> for stable wireless LAN chipset drivers; <ar5523>, <ath9k_htc> or <carl9170> for wireless drivers under development. Ask me about <atl1>, <atl2>, <atl1e> or <atl1c> for Ethernet adapter drivers. For Bluetooth, see <ath3k>. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/Atheros |
| 22:15.09 | jhutchins_lt | !forcedeth |
| 22:15.10 | dpkg | i heard forcedeth is the open source nVidia Ethernet driver for nForce motherboards, available in Linux since 2.4.23. Ask me about <rtl8211c>, <mcp67>, <forcedeth mac>. |
| 22:15.18 | andornaut | foetus: k, downloading it now |
| 22:15.39 | andornaut | !rtl8111 |
| 22:15.46 | foetus | andornaut: good luck ;) |
| 22:15.50 | andornaut | thx =) |
| 22:16.01 | amoe | anyone know when gnome3 is gonna hit unstable? |
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| 22:16.21 | andornaut | at least i know im not screwed now that wireless is up =) i can at least move on to installing xfce, etc |
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| 22:17.53 | dname | hi all |
| 22:18.10 | jhutchins_lt | amoe: It'll be a while. |
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| 22:18.38 | dname | Faced with the problem. Via FTP uploads the files not starting with a dot. Eg. htaccess |
| 22:18.47 | dname | .htaccess |
| 22:19.07 | dname | how to solve the problem? |
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| 22:19.25 | friese2 | upload without dot and then rename? |
| 22:20.25 | dname | so it turns out. But how to solve this problem with downloading file? |
| 22:20.55 | friese2 | first rename, then download? ;) |
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| 22:21.02 | foetus | is near sleep.. |
| 22:21.08 | mattgyver | dname, is this in a client or just ftp commandline? |
| 22:21.16 | jhutchins_lt | dname: You should not be able to download an ,htaccess file directly. |
| 22:21.47 | dname | After renaming the file is deleted |
| 22:22.24 | dname | use filezilla client. |
| 22:22.26 | jhutchins_lt | dname: No, it's hidden. |
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| 22:22.53 | Raddsdsr | Hey guys, is there any way to install all the packages in a certain repo? |
| 22:23.19 | dname | I'm trying to get your content server. However, any file that starts with the point is removed. |
| 22:23.27 | foetus | why not mc? |
| 22:23.33 | jhutchins_lt | Raddsdsr: What repo? |
| 22:23.35 | mattgyver | dname, I think by default filezilla will hide hidden files |
| 22:23.40 | mattgyver | Im poking around |
| 22:24.28 | mattgyver | dname, Settings>File Types> treat dot file as ascii files |
| 22:24.29 | jhutchins_lt | ls -a |
| 22:24.29 | Raddsdsr | jhutchins_lt, does it matter? |
| 22:24.30 | mattgyver | is that checked? |
| 22:24.35 | abrotman | Raddsdsr: yes |
| 22:24.42 | dname | Through the command line is also not seen the file. And Apache, this file can not see. |
| 22:24.59 | Raddsdsr | abrotman, why :/ |
| 22:25.01 | mattgyver | dname, a dot file is hidden, you have to generally pass a command to the program to see them |
| 22:25.09 | abrotman | Raddsdsr: why won't you answer him? |
| 22:25.14 | mattgyver | so like jhutchins said, would show them |
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| 22:25.52 | Raddsdsr | the repo from offensive-security |
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| 22:26.51 | dname | And as if to make these files visible? |
| 22:26.59 | jhutchins_lt | !backtrack |
| 22:26.59 | dpkg | BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. |
| 22:27.13 | mattgyver | Raddsdsr, its probably not the right way but have you tried to comment out all other repos in /etc/apt/sources.list and try something like apt-get update && apt-get install * ? |
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| 22:27.45 | abrotman | mattgyver: you try that first .. let us know how it goes |
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| 22:27.50 | Raddsdsr | mattgyver, ill try it |
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| 22:27.54 | jhutchins_lt | Raddsdsr: There is probably a better method of achieving what you want to do. |
| 22:28.14 | mattgyver | I agree theres probably a better way, just offering a thought (albeit probably not a great one) |
| 22:28.18 | boogerking | what is a command line tool to access com1 to configure switch? |
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| 22:28.27 | jhutchins_lt | boogerking: minicom |
| 22:28.30 | boogerking | ty |
| 22:28.39 | jhutchins_lt | !minicom |
| 22:28.39 | dpkg | it has been said that minicom is a serial communication program like Windows's Hyperterminal. |
| 22:28.51 | abrotman | Raddsdsr: and how is this a Debian question anyway? |
| 22:29.10 | Raddsdsr | mattgyver, when i type apt-get install * it just tries to search apt for the files in the current directory lol. |
| 22:29.19 | Raddsdsr | â¢Raddsdsr⢠because im using Debian 6? |
| 22:29.23 | Raddsdsr | oops |
| 22:29.24 | Raddsdsr | abrotman |
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| 22:29.27 | abrotman | those repos aren't for Debian |
| 22:29.33 | Raddsdsr | and? |
| 22:29.36 | Raddsdsr | im still using debian |
| 22:29.41 | Raddsdsr | so its a debian question |
| 22:30.02 | jhutchins_lt | Raddsdsr: Those repos aren't for debian. |
| 22:30.17 | jhutchins_lt | Raddsdsr: Chances of them not breaking your system pretty seriously are very low. |
| 22:30.19 | abrotman | sounds like a good way to break stuff :) |
| 22:30.29 | jhutchins_lt | You really should follow the links above. |
| 22:30.52 | amoe | jhutchins_lt, thanks |
| 22:31.41 | jhutchins_lt | Raddsdsr: Believe me, I have done something similar. |
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| 22:32.58 | ws2k3 | hello guys i am working with a debian machine and i have port forwarding enabled and one port works fine but the other ports dont. this is my script: http://paste.debian.net/114536/ for example i can connect to port 3389 but i cant connect to port 443.. |
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| 22:33.49 | ws2k3 | this is my iptables -L http://paste.debian.net/114537/ |
| 22:34.19 | foetus | bye |
| 22:34.28 | mersault | what are the effects of enabling irqpolling on my kernel boot string? It appears to have resolved an issue I was having with a network card, but I'm curious |
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| 22:39.12 | cryptopsy | how can i get progress meter on curlftpfs? |
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| 22:39.36 | dname | To take care:) in the config vsftpd included force_dot_files |
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| 22:41.00 | andornaut | I installed xfce4 which pulled in a bunch of Xorg deps. startx starts the windowing env but without a keyb/mouse. The xorg.log shows it picking up my keyb and mouse, though, with this error: "config/udev: Adding input device Lid Switch (/dev/input/event4) \ No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring)" |
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| 22:42.00 | jhutchins_lt | andornaut: Which release? |
| 22:42.41 | andornaut | jhutchins_lt: xorg 1.9.5; xfce 4.6.2 |
| 22:42.47 | abrotman | did you install the xorg package? |
| 22:42.57 | abrotman | andornaut: and what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 22:43.08 | andornaut | abrotman: not directly, but it is installed (as a dep from xfce4) |
| 22:43.25 | andornaut | Linux laptop 2.6.38-2-amd64 #1 SMPT ... |
| 22:43.30 | andornaut | (no "T") |
| 22:43.31 | abrotman | andornaut: double check the actual 'xorg' package is installed |
| 22:43.36 | andornaut | abrotman: did, it is |
| 22:43.37 | jhutchins_lt | ,cersions xfce4 |
| 22:43.43 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions xfce4 |
| 22:43.45 | judd | Package xfce4 on i386 -- lenny: 4.4.2.1; lenny-backports: 4.6.1.1~bpo50+1; sid: 4.6.2; squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.6.2; experimental: 4.8.0 |
| 22:43.47 | abrotman | andornaut: ps/2 kb/mouse ? |
| 22:44.01 | jhutchins_lt | udev bug |
| 22:44.02 | andornaut | abrotman: laptop, + usb wireless mouse |
| 22:44.28 | abrotman | but it works at the console if you don't let X start? |
| 22:44.39 | andornaut | abrotman: keyboard does, yes |
| 22:45.11 | andornaut | it's a fresh wheezy base installation, then i installed xfce4 |
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| 22:46.22 | andornaut | i don't see anything that wrong in the Xorg.log except for ignoring the Lid Sensor |
| 22:46.34 | andornaut | err switch |
| 22:46.51 | andornaut | and unfortunately, i cant exit X without rebooting |
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| 22:50.08 | andornaut | i guess i should try installing xorg w/o xfce4 |
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| 22:50.36 | robertosucks | Hello |
| 22:50.46 | robertosucks | why i dont get iwconfig? |
| 22:51.05 | andornaut | robertosucks: that's in the wireless-tools package |
| 22:51.17 | robertosucks | yes i have it |
| 22:51.18 | andornaut | nope, still no mouse w/ just xorg, and no xfce |
| 22:51.24 | robertosucks | but i get no iwconfig |
| 22:51.34 | abrotman | robertosucks: running it as root ? |
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| 22:51.49 | robertosucks | i install it as root |
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| 22:51.58 | andornaut | ya it's in /sbin/ |
| 22:52.03 | robertosucks | but i am running it as normal user |
| 22:52.07 | andornaut | try /sbin/iwconfig |
| 22:52.42 | robertosucks | andatche, do i need to do that every time i use iwconfig? |
| 22:53.54 | robertosucks | andornaut, ^ |
| 22:54.35 | abrotman | robertosucks: you can't do much with iwconfig as a normal user |
| 22:54.35 | abrotman | you won't be able to set anything |
