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| 00:20.59 | sorabji52 | can anyone help me troubleshoot a debian install on a compaq presario? |
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| 00:23.03 | sorabji52 | install seems to go fine, GRUB loads up, select the right kernel...few messages stream by the screen, then nothing |
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| 00:24.44 | jhutchins_lt | sorabji52: Video driver fail. |
| 00:25.10 | jhutchins_lt | sorabji52: Rescuse mode should get you a text console. |
| 00:25.40 | sorabji52 | in install options i opted not to have a desktop...so it ought to be text from the start yeah? |
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| 00:28.20 | sorabji52 | jhutchins_lt: so put the install media back in, get a text console w/ resue mode... |
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| 00:30.14 | sacredchao | For some reason, when I rebooted my RAID-6 array (mdadm) did not autostart like it normally does, even though all RAID members are functioning fine and there are no other errors. md superblock version is I believe 1.20 |
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| 00:32.23 | david234 | I used checkinstall -D to make a deb package from a make install script. When I try and install the package, it says "error creating directory /etc/package/util: no such file or directory". Should the checkinstall should not have told the .deb to create all the subdirectories needed ? |
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| 00:32.54 | david234 | I think it's trying to create /etc/package/util before it creates /etc/package, so if it added -p to all the mkdir commands, it'd be fine. any suggestion on how to do this ? |
| 00:33.08 | masterkorp | hello, what is the diference between the package msmtp and msmtp-mta ? |
| 00:33.15 | sacredchao | Is there a way to tell mdadm to autoscan and attempt to assemble arrays? Or way I can troubleshoot why it did not find my array? |
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| 00:35.32 | jhutchins_lt | sorabji52: Actually, you should have a rescue mode option on the grub menu. |
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| 00:36.07 | jhutchins_lt | How does one manage themes in kde4? |
| 00:36.27 | sorabji52 | jhutchins_lt: there's a recovery option in grub, but that does exactly the same thing as the normal kernel, i.e., zips some text past the screen, then goes black |
| 00:37.20 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, You'll be wanting to disable KMS then. Intel graphics? |
| 00:37.58 | jhutchins_lt | !kms |
| 00:37.58 | dpkg | Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) has graphical modes initialized by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
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| 00:38.14 | jhutchins_lt | is not really here. |
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| 00:38.39 | sorabji52 | nvidia graphics actually |
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| 00:39.28 | masterkorp | what is the packe for thr transmission web interface ? |
| 00:39.32 | david234 | So checkinstall creates a .deb that doesn't create the sub directories needed to install. How might I fix this ? |
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| 00:42.03 | sorabji52 | dpkg: booted w/ the nomodeset parameter...same result, black screen |
| 00:42.03 | dpkg | sorabji52: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 00:43.07 | sorabji52 | dpkg: computer is still on though...but i don't believe linux is running...can't get to a tty or anything |
| 00:43.07 | dpkg | ...but computer is already something else... |
| 00:43.36 | dvs | dpkg: what are you? |
| 00:43.36 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more info see <infobot>. |
| 00:44.46 | rypervenche | dpkg: You're a good bot. |
| 00:44.46 | dpkg | rypervenche: aw, gee |
| 00:45.01 | rypervenche | lol |
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| 00:46.14 | Caelum | I haven't updated this system in a while, and now when I do aptitude update it says GPG error...signature could not be verified, how do I update my keys for the repos? |
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| 00:51.25 | Caelum | never mind |
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| 00:54.10 | sorabji52 | anyone have ideas for what to do w/ a debian machine that boots straight to black screen? |
| 00:54.47 | Caelum | sorabji52: can you ping it or ssh into it? |
| 00:57.25 | sorabji52 | Caelum: wouldn't know how to do that...haven't been able to boot it once |
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| 00:57.33 | webpower | hi all |
| 00:58.07 | webpower | how to install gnu in an expert textual installation of debian netinst? |
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| 01:00.54 | dvs | webpower: gnu is an organization, not a program. |
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| 01:01.35 | webpower | gnu package |
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| 01:05.01 | david234_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:06.24 | ppalmes | david234_: what do you mean? give an example |
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| 01:08.01 | david234_ | I created a package with checkinstall, and when it crashes on " error creating directory `./etc/wanpipe/util': No such file or directory". It's trying to create util directory in non existant /etc/wanpipe/ directory. |
| 01:08.23 | david234_ | that "when" should have been removed, I didn't proofread my message, sorry ;) |
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| 01:10.32 | rypervenche | I noticed that I can download a crapload of CDs for Debian, or like 5 DVDs. Is this to download ALL of the packages available in the Debian repositories so I don't ever have to be connected to the Internet? |
| 01:10.47 | dvs | rypervenche: yes |
| 01:11.05 | rypervenche | Ahhh, so I don't need that just, I suppose the net install will suffice. |
| 01:11.17 | dvs | rypervenche: yes |
| 01:11.26 | dvs | if you have a wired connection |
| 01:12.39 | david234_ | So, what do I do about my problem ? I searched "no such file or directory" on google and got half a billion results |
| 01:12.51 | rypervenche | Ahh, I'm on a netbook. I HAVE to do it wired? |
| 01:13.16 | phillipsjk | no, but wired tends to be more reliable. |
| 01:13.36 | dvs | rypervenche: Well, if your wireless connection is unencrypted or WEP, and the wireless NIC doesn't need firmware. |
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| 01:15.30 | david234_ | also, in order to compile this package, I have to install ncurses-dev, does that mean I must set ncurses as a dependency ? |
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| 01:16.13 | rypervenche | Well, I don't have physical access to the router. I could either have one computer set up then share the connection using a cat5 cable, or I could do it wirelessly. |
| 01:16.25 | rypervenche | The connection I have is WEP. |
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| 01:18.17 | dvs | rypervenche: You can try a wireless by downloading the unofficial firmware version at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ but wired is a much more sure bet. |
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| 01:19.55 | haaans1 | Hello! i have a debian 6.0 running kernel version 2.6.32-5-686 but i want install a old kernel version to test an exploit: http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/14814/ some one can help me with this? how can i install this kernel with vulnerabilities? thanks! |
| 01:21.07 | nexxen | set theme trakhel |
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| 01:28.42 | matias | Hello |
| 01:29.00 | spal | is network-manager available for KDE as well? |
| 01:29.09 | matias | spal, yes |
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| 01:30.47 | matias | I have an old Debian installation that I can't use anymore because I don't have any bootloeader in this computer, is there a fast way to install one? It doesn't have to be permanent, I don't want to write the MBR, I just want to be able to boot it to backup some things (I don't use this computer anymore) |
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| 01:31.43 | dvs | matias: Use a Live CD and mount it? |
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| 01:32.12 | matias | it's not the same, I have many GBs to backup and using a Live CD would be painful |
| 01:32.24 | babilen | matias: why? |
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| 01:33.01 | matias | because it will be absolutely slow (relatively talking) |
| 01:33.24 | mharrison | matias: why not pull the drive and slave it in another machine to pull the data off of it? |
| 01:33.59 | matias | well, it will be a good idea but my other computer (this one) is a laptop :P |
| 01:34.08 | matias | it would be * |
| 01:34.23 | mharrison | lol, I thought everyone had a USB 3.5" IDE adapter |
| 01:34.31 | matias | not me :P |
| 01:34.40 | babilen | matias: I don't quite see how using a live cd would affect your transfer speed. But you either have to put the drive somewhere else, install a bootloader (/msg dpkg fixmbr) or use a live cd. I would do the latter. |
| 01:34.48 | phillipsjk | estimates 2min/GB over a 100Mpbs network, no encryption. |
| 01:35.36 | matias | in fact I tried using a Live CD, I'm doing so right now but it's slow |
| 01:36.01 | matias | maybe I will install a bootloader |
| 01:36.04 | matias | thank you all |
| 01:36.32 | phillipsjk | is the screen redraw slow? you may be low on memory. |
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| 01:37.35 | matias | no, I'm backuping trough SSH |
| 01:37.57 | dvs | so, wouldn't ssh be slower due to encryption? |
| 01:37.58 | MrFrood | nexxen: live cd/dvd's will always be slow at the data transfer rate is much lower than with a normal hard-drive |
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| 01:38.18 | phillipsjk | I found form my PII 350 I only get about 1Mbit/sec or 100kB/sec |
| 01:38.50 | mharrison | if it's slow, follow Mr. T's advice from his infomercial....just set it and forget it |
| 01:39.17 | phillipsjk | 20min/GB |
| 01:40.00 | spal | does GNOME support true transparency? |
| 01:40.26 | spal | from https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rxvt-unicode : "To use true transparency you need to be using a window manager that supports compositing or a separate compositor." |
| 01:40.40 | matias | let me see what is the ratio right now, I guess it's not so much |
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| 01:41.46 | MrFrood | spal: are you using a window manager that supports compositing or a separate compositor? |
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| 01:42.19 | spal | MrFrood, is metacity a windows manager? I am using metacity. |
| 01:43.01 | matias | ...it's still calculating the number of files/directory it will copy lol... |
| 01:43.07 | matias | directories* |
| 01:43.15 | MrFrood | spal: then you would need to use a separate compositor such as xcompmgr |
| 01:43.53 | MrFrood | spal: or swap metacity for compiz |
| 01:44.09 | mharrison | MrFood: the compositor setting in gconf for metacity wouldn't do true transparency? |
| 01:44.38 | spal | what is the difference between true transparency and false transparency? |
| 01:45.06 | MrFrood | mharrison: been years since I used metacity if it now has built in composition yes that would be best |
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| 01:45.47 | mharrison | MrFood: yeah, there is a setting (not sure where it is for sure as I haven't used gnome in a while) in gconf that you can turn on compositing |
| 01:45.50 | spal | what does it look like when there is true transparency? |
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| 01:46.11 | MrFrood | spal: false transparency just sets a snapshot of your wallpaper as the bg |
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| 01:46.34 | spal | right now, i have a transparent urxvt window but the only issue i see is that as I move my urxvt window, the old section of the background seems to shift with it. |
| 01:46.46 | spal | and the background gets updated as per the new location only when I stop moving the window. |
| 01:47.04 | spal | if I install compiz, should I remove metacity? |
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| 01:47.09 | matias | 2.6MB/s |
| 01:47.25 | phillipsjk | PIII eh? |
| 01:47.39 | MrFrood | !tell spal about compiz |
| 01:48.12 | spal | doesn't say whether i can remove metacity or not. it does say that it's a window manager. |
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| 01:48.48 | MrFrood | spal: gives you some wiki pages to look at ;) |
| 01:48.51 | mharrison | spal: try this gconftool-2 --set '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true |
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| 01:50.37 | Shadur | Anyone know offhand if there's a way to tell grub to boot a CD from its command line? |
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| 01:51.02 | spal | could you please give that bool true command once again? |
| 01:51.04 | spal | I had to restart my gdm. |
| 01:51.44 | MrFrood | gconftool-2 --set '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' -type bool true |
| 01:52.00 | dvs | Shadur: You usually use the BIOS options to do that. |
| 01:52.12 | spal | MrFrood: Error while parsing options: Unknown option -type. |
| 01:52.45 | MrFrood | --type |
| 01:53.09 | spal | do I have to restart gdm? |
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| 01:53.47 | MrFrood | no idea it's mharrison suggestion |
| 01:55.38 | Shadur | dvs: Yeah, but this is a virtual machine and I'm accessing the console over citrix. It boots too fast to register the "go to bios" keypress. |
| 01:55.46 | mharrison | spal: you shouldn't have to restart GDM....your screen should flash briefly and then compositing should be turned on after that |
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| 01:57.11 | spal | mharrison: the screen did flash but I don't see true transparency |
| 01:58.04 | MrFrood | spal: what do you want transparant? |
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| 01:58.44 | matias | # mount /dev/sda4 /media/debian && update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda4 |
| 01:58.44 | mharrison | spal: what MrFood said.....metacity can do true transparency in the terminal for sure....a google search shows me that much |
| 01:58.51 | matias | it should be enough to reinstall it right? |
| 01:59.29 | spal | MrFrood: I want my urxvt window to be transparent |
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| 02:00.12 | MrFrood | spal: have you set urxvt to use true transparncy? |
| 02:00.14 | matias | err, I mean: # mount /dev/sda4 /media/debian; chroot /media/debian; update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda4 |
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| 02:00.44 | matias | should it work? it doesn't, but I'm not sure if it's because it's wrong or the OS is broken (I guess it's still ok) |
| 02:01.17 | spal | MrFrood: I have Rxvt*transparent:true in my .Xresoureces |
| 02:01.29 | dvs | matias: It should be "grub-install /dev/sda" to install it to the MBR |
| 02:01.50 | MrFrood | spal: add the following lines |
| 02:02.14 | matias | oh, ok, thanks dvs |
| 02:02.16 | MrFrood | spal: URxvt.depth: 32 |
| 02:02.28 | spal | mine is set to 24 at the moment |
| 02:02.29 | matias | # mount /dev/sda4 /media/debian; chroot /media/debian; update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda |
| 02:02.34 | MrFrood | spal: URxvt.background: rgba:1111/1111/1111/dddd |
| 02:03.09 | MrFrood | ok |
| 02:03.31 | spal | MrFrood: anything else? |
| 02:03.52 | spal | this did not change the behavior |
| 02:03.54 | MrFrood | that shoul do it |
| 02:04.13 | spal | the image behind the window doesn't get updated as i shift the window |
| 02:04.17 | MrFrood | URxvt.transparent: true ? |
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| 02:04.32 | spal | it gets updated only after I stop moving it |
| 02:04.52 | MrFrood | you did reload your resource files? |
| 02:04.55 | chovy | how do i upgrade my debian from whatever it is now to the latest stable release? |
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| 02:05.31 | dvs | chovy: Depends on what you have now. |
| 02:05.52 | spal | MrFrood: yes |
| 02:06.01 | spal | I'll just try restarting gdm once |
| 02:06.40 | chovy | dvs /etc/debian_version says 5.0.8 |
| 02:06.51 | MrFrood | spal: they work here |
| 02:07.15 | dvs | chovy: Then the 6.0 install guide should be enough |
| 02:07.27 | dvs | !tell chovy about ig |
| 02:07.28 | spal | MrFrood: works for me too. I just observed that the image updating is too slow. |
| 02:07.32 | spal | it isn't smooth. |
| 02:07.39 | chovy | dvs: so there's more to it than apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 02:07.47 | dvs | chovy: OH yes |
| 02:08.05 | dvs | chapter 4 details it. |
| 02:08.39 | MrFrood | spal: what graphic card/drivers are you using |
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| 02:09.52 | chovy | dvs: i don't see "upgrade" anywhere |
| 02:10.44 | spal | MrFrood: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 03) |
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| 02:11.26 | spal | MrFrood: also, when I place urxvt on the browser, I don't see the browser behind urxvt |
| 02:11.31 | spal | but I see the wallpaper |
| 02:11.45 | aceofspades19 | Hi, I have a debian testing vm setup in virtualbox but it won't respond to input, any ideas? |
| 02:11.46 | MrFrood | spal: sorry I don't know much about intel graphics |
| 02:12.01 | spal | MrFrood: what do you see when you place urxvt on the browser? |
| 02:12.09 | aceofspades19 | I installed from the debian testing netinstall disk |
| 02:12.10 | chovy | i'm using amd64 |
| 02:12.15 | MrFrood | spal: that sounds like false transparancy - not true |
| 02:12.45 | spal | MrFrood: yes, false transparency. it only updates the background image more frequently now. :) |
| 02:12.54 | MrFrood | spal: I have true transparancy |
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| 02:13.28 | spal | MrFrood: you enabled true transparency with that gconftool-2 command just now? |
| 02:14.21 | MrFrood | no I use xcompmgr (xcompmgr -n) with the openbox wm |
| 02:14.42 | spal | ok |
| 02:14.59 | spal | can I use xcompmgr with GNOME? |
| 02:15.02 | spal | or metacity? |
| 02:15.28 | MrFrood | but the actual comositor should not make much differance :-/ |
| 02:15.42 | dvs | chovy: Ah, I need the release notes, not the install guide: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ |
| 02:16.24 | MrFrood | spal: yes but before tying you need to turn off metacity's compositing |
| 02:16.25 | dvs | chovy: read that chapter 4. |
| 02:16.40 | spal | MrFrood: yes, did that by running that command again with bool false argument |
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| 02:17.17 | aceofspades19 | any ideas on my virtualbox issue? |
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| 02:22.32 | mharrison | aceofspades19: reboot into the recovery option in GRUB...login as root and delete everything in /run |
| 02:22.41 | mharrison | aceofspades19: including /run itself |
| 02:23.08 | aceofspades19 | okay thanks I'll try that |
| 02:23.24 | mharrison | also reboot when you are done....don't want to miss the obvious |
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| 02:25.26 | aceofspades19 | mharrison: thanks a lot it worked :D |
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| 02:25.47 | mharrison | aceofspades19: np, glad you are in business |
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| 02:29.27 | eflynn` | hi guys. I did "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt -o ro" as root, but under my normal user account I got "cd: permission denied: /mnt". how do i rectify this? |
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| 02:31.08 | spal | http://i.imgur.com/PXNdR.png - urxvt is on left, mrxvt on right. mrxvt has much smoother and pleasant looking font. how can I have the same for urxvt? |
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| 02:34.22 | Sashi | ello, i currently have a freenas fileserver, im about to rebuild it with a different os, with zfs, now.. is it worth it to get an ECC capable board? |
| 02:36.19 | chovy | anyone know how to upgrade rubygems on debian? |
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| 02:37.19 | roche | bklive at the end I use dpkg -i -force-all in worked |
| 02:37.31 | benzaldehyde | chovy: you could probably build the latest from source |
| 02:37.50 | roche | bklive, s/in worked/ it worked/ |
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| 02:44.20 | benzaldehyde | chovy: i was running gnash on this version .8.8.8 upgraded to .8.8.9, the path updated itself but the plugin did not so i copied it from source and now when i type it into the command line or hit up firefox it just works and that is what i wanted |
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| 02:44.54 | rohan233 | s |
| 02:45.01 | rohan233 | can you use cat instead of hjsplit |
| 02:45.16 | benzaldehyde | rohan233: cat? reads a text file |
| 02:45.36 | rohan233 | you can use it to join stuff |
| 02:45.37 | benzaldehyde | outputs it to screen |
| 02:45.48 | rohan233 | eg cat file*.dat >all_files.dat |
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| 02:46.29 | rohan233 | im just wondering if its interchangeable with hjsplit in this respect |
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| 02:48.13 | ebegin | How can I find where I can get a specific version of a package ? libtemplate-perl for lenny |
| 02:48.15 | benzaldehyde | rohan233: well you could cp a file for that and > isn't cat specific |
| 02:48.24 | ebegin | oups... libtemplate-perl v2.22 |
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| 02:51.37 | ppalmes | wonders whatever happened to apt-file why index no longer available |
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| 02:53.47 | lubosz | hi. i installed a lot of crap without checkinstall / deb. is it safe to remove my whole /usr/local dir? |
| 02:53.51 | benzaldehyde | ebegin: i would just search for it on google download untar into dir configure build and install |
| 02:54.01 | rypervenche | Should my /home partition come before or after my swap partition? |
| 02:54.38 | ebegin | benzaldehyde, right, I think that what I'll do. |
| 02:54.43 | ebegin | thanks |
| 02:54.59 | benzaldehyde | rypervenche: from what i understand the middle of the disk sounds about right so before |
| 02:55.02 | simonlnu | lubosz: debian doesn't use /usr/local |
| 02:55.23 | lubosz | simonlnu: good, so its only my personal stuff, not controlled by dpkg |
| 02:55.34 | lubosz | dpkg -S /usr/local also returned nothing |
| 02:55.34 | dpkg | Package: /usr/local also returned nothing: Status: install ok installed |
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| 02:55.44 | lubosz | nice |
| 02:55.47 | lubosz | dpkg -S /usr/local |
| 02:55.47 | dpkg | Package: /usr/local: Status: install ok installed |
| 02:56.10 | lubosz | i get |
| 02:56.22 | lubosz | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local. |
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| 02:59.50 | benzaldehyde | rohan233: you can use rar if you don't like hjsplit, tar also will do an archive without compression though i do not know if it splits or joins |
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| 03:00.50 | rohan233 | I just used cat to rejoin hjsplitted rar files, and it worked. I don't think it works for hjsplitted video files though |
| 03:01.29 | rypervenche | Ok, before I install Debian on this computer, I want to back up my /home and /etc I guess. Any recommendations on which command I should use? |
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| 03:02.33 | rohan233 | It might do actually I think my video file is just corrupt |
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| 03:04.21 | benzaldehyde | rohan233: you are just going to manage to overwrite the output of one file over another i think |
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| 03:05.53 | benzaldehyde | rypervenche: you will want to add a recursive flag to either copy or move |
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| 03:10.32 | rypervenche | Well, I think I would like to use rsync, but I have no experience with it. is "rsync -av path otherpath" good enough or should should I use other options? |
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| 03:11.25 | benzaldehyde | rypervenche: too advanced for me to tell maybe try #linux dunno |
| 03:12.20 | rypervenche | benzaldehyde: Thanks. |
| 03:13.04 | benzaldehyde | no sweat |
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| 03:17.17 | matias | would # cat file.img > /dev/sdb && sync work with the live CD I'm downloading? |
| 03:20.16 | benzaldehyde | matias: mounting the img to a device would depend on the device what is sdb |
| 03:20.29 | matias | a usb device |
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| 03:21.17 | benzaldehyde | i would probably use growisofs |
| 03:21.34 | matias | let me check what growisofs is |
| 03:22.08 | matias | would you use it to """burn""" this img to your usb stick? |
| 03:22.31 | benzaldehyde | i never tried that but it works with burning images to cd |
| 03:22.44 | matias | but it's not the same, it's a usb device! :P |
| 03:23.42 | benzaldehyde | it would be growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sdb=/path/to/img.iso |
| 03:24.04 | matias | ok, I will try |
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| 03:26.33 | MrHatter | how do i execute program in a running xterm from another shell ? |
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| 03:27.02 | oops | can rxvt-unicode support ISO-8859-1 like mrxvt does? |
| 03:27.12 | matias | <relaxed> matias: dd if=live.img of=/dev/sdb (where /dev/sdb is the usb stick) |
| 03:27.13 | matias | :) |
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| 03:34.44 | benzaldehyde | MrHatter: not sure do you know what a nohup command does |
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| 03:36.33 | mcurran | Can anyone tell me how to install the latest nvidia beta driver in squeeze? It's complaining about gcc versions, and won't build. |
| 03:37.11 | mcurran | gdm3, nvidia driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-270.41.06.run |
| 03:37.14 | MrHatter | benzaldehyde, not really... man page says ' run a command immune to hang ups' |
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| 03:37.55 | benzaldehyde | there was a thing i read about running background commands i thought that was the one to use but still not exactly what you are after |
| 03:37.57 | MrHatter | mcurran, you can install a previous gcc if you need it, then export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.1(or whatever) |
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| 03:38.45 | MrHatter | benzaldehyde, i spawn multiple xterm sof remote servers, then i want to identify an xterm and run a command inside it with a script |
| 03:38.49 | mcurran | I already have it installed. It says kernel was compiled with 4.4 and the current compiler is 4.5, I have both installed |
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| 03:39.23 | mcurran | I tried removing the older versions, but apt wants to remove many packages if I do. Is there a way to compile a new kernel and all packages with the latest compiler? |
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| 03:39.29 | MrHatter | mcurran: then you need to export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.4 so you can use it |
| 03:39.46 | MrHatter | the the shell will try to compile with previous gcc |
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| 03:40.22 | mcurran | so add that to bash.bashrc, environments, or just in the shell |
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| 03:42.42 | benzaldehyde | MrHatter: i installed fedora with VNC, that was kinda remote and then there is openssh. not really helpful in what you are looking to do, way too advanced, gl though |
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| 03:43.33 | mcurran | what's with the crazy non-related dependency mess in debian, for christ sake. What the hell does gnome-control-panel have to do with evolution, and why does every package need it's compiler exact? Just friggin' allow a rebuild |
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| 03:46.48 | MrHatter | mcurran, you can just export the variable in the shell |
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| 03:51.38 | karlpinc | MrHatter: "immune to hang ups" means immune to kill -sHUP |
| 03:52.44 | karlpinc | MrHatter: (Which is the signal you'd get if your RS232 serial terminal had it's wire disconnected or was powered off.) |
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| 03:53.19 | mcurran | still not working... |
| 03:53.22 | mcurran | so lame |
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| 03:56.44 | karlpinc | I just spent 45 minutes, it seems, configuring smartd.conf. You'd think that there'd be a way to deliver it with better defaults, or better comments, or something. Or I could just be lame and need to spend that 45 minutes just once.... |
| 03:57.05 | karlpinc | mcurran: What version of debian? |
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| 03:57.24 | ham5 | OS: Linux version 2.6.38.4h3k (Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid) |
| 03:57.29 | aMegaf | Hi all, im trying to burn a VCD with Brasero, but it says Please install the following manually and try again: |
| 03:57.31 | aMegaf | mplex (GStreamer plugin). |
| 03:57.37 | mcurran | squeeze amd64 kernel upgraded to 2.6.38-2-amd64 |
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| 03:57.58 | aMegaf | I cant find any mplax related stuff with aptitude neither synaptic |
| 03:58.07 | aMegaf | can you give me some light please? |
| 03:58.09 | mcurran | I'm trying to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-270.41.06.run and don't want to settle for any free or non-free drivers |
| 03:58.15 | karlpinc | mcurran: Ah. I see squeeze. That's probably why they nailed the gcc release to the ground, to keep it stable. But I'm clueless. That's a guess. |
| 03:58.29 | mcurran | so do you have any suggestions? |
| 03:58.44 | aMegaf | mcurran: install gcc 4.3 |
| 03:58.58 | aMegaf | mcurran: install your linux headers |
| 03:59.17 | karlpinc | !tell aMegaf about overview |
| 03:59.18 | aMegaf | mcurran: and before you run the installer, use export CC=gcc-4.3 |
| 03:59.19 | mcurran | I already have all the gcc versions installed available in the repos, not by choice, were already installed |
| 03:59.33 | mcurran | I tried the export as well |
| 03:59.39 | aMegaf | karlpinc: what the hell is that? |
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| 04:00.14 | aMegaf | ah, is that about my question? |
| 04:00.18 | mcurran | if anything, I would like to remove all the gcc's less than 4.6, but it won't let me without complete destroying my os |
| 04:00.39 | karlpinc | aMegaf: Taht's for links to dmm for what seems to be a need for gstreamer stuff -- or the possibility of rebuilding debian debs with other stuff enabled. |
| 04:01.06 | benzaldehyde | aMegaf: you are trying to make a vcd into dvd video? |
| 04:01.20 | aMegaf | benzaldehyde: into any optic media |
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| 04:01.38 | karlpinc | I can't figure out how to rip a vcd. Anyone have any clues? |
| 04:01.58 | aMegaf | I want to make one |
| 04:02.13 | karlpinc | aMegaf: Vcd seems the red-headed stepchild. |
| 04:02.32 | karlpinc | benzaldehyde: I just want it on a hd so I can playback without the disk. |
| 04:02.56 | aMegaf | keith4: I have non free and contrib debian multimedia already |
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| 04:03.24 | benzaldehyde | well brasero crashes on me so i use growisofs but you should have at least gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg installed from apt-get or aptititude |
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| 04:04.57 | karlpinc | aMegaf: The SoftwareOverview wiki page has notes regarding not having to use dmm but instead getting the source .debs and just changing the compile flags. (And that exhausts what I know.) |
| 04:05.56 | aMegaf | I might stop using debian then |
| 04:06.08 | aMegaf | this is not the "universal" os... |
| 04:06.15 | karlpinc | aMegaf: I hear mint comes with everything. |
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| 04:06.37 | karlpinc | aMegaf: No-ish. It's a Free OS that runs everything. |
| 04:07.04 | aMegaf | It doesnt burn VCDs with Brasero |
| 04:07.23 | aMegaf | http://linux.die.net/man/1/mplex |
| 04:07.52 | aMegaf | is that anything like rpm.pbone.net for .debs? |
| 04:07.53 | karlpinc | aMegaf: If you want stuff that requires somebody pay/keep secrets/break the law you need to add non-core stuff to Debian. Debian itself won't do any of those things. |
| 04:09.14 | Rusty1 | i dont believe mint oob will either |
| 04:10.05 | mcurran | where are these illegally fun repos? |
| 04:10.26 | karlpinc | aMegaf: Debian will provide people with support for the first 2, but not the breaking the law part. At least as far as they can without having to do any of those things them selves. You might try "working hours" here. Thats when a lot of the real experts show up. |
| 04:10.29 | mcurran | also, if I recompile my kernel, will it recompile all my packages as well? Is there a way to do that? |
| 04:10.36 | aMegaf | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mplex |
| 04:10.43 | aMegaf | thats wrong |
| 04:10.48 | aMegaf | that package doesnt help |
| 04:11.18 | benzaldehyde | anyone know of a good spellcheker fromt he command line? |
| 04:11.28 | benzaldehyde | *from the |
| 04:11.41 | karlpinc | mcurran: Perhaps if you track sid. You need to wait for one of those people to show up. |
| 04:11.49 | aMegaf | weird, I have the command mplex |
| 04:12.07 | aMegaf | but Synaptic cant find it |
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| 04:12.51 | mcurran | My goal is to get a working copy of LMDE as a rolling release and I want to add all the pentesting goodies, and make a "rolling" / up-to-date network security distro. or at least a patch or metapackage for lmde |
| 04:12.54 | karlpinc | benzaldehyde: I always fire up emacs. I guess it depends on what you're trying to do. I once used ispell (or aspell?) from the command line but it seemed clunkly. That was years ago. |
| 04:13.19 | mcurran | Pretty far off though if I can't even get my friggin' nvidia module installed |
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| 04:13.37 | karlpinc | mcurran: Perhaps you should talk to the lmde people. We're not here to help with anything but Debian. |
| 04:14.02 | benzaldehyde | just looking to spell the phrase usual hurang but i am not sure on the spelling |
| 04:14.08 | mcurran | yeah, well since I upgraded my kernel, I'm just looking for help installing nvidia driver in amd64 squeeze |
| 04:14.23 | Rusty1 | benzaldehyde: try google: aspell cli |
| 04:14.29 | karlpinc | benzaldehyde: Use lynx or links and hit google or wiktionary? |
| 04:14.40 | mcurran | I'm just using the mint themes and have already uninstalled most the uneccessary multimedia packages |
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| 04:15.25 | benzaldehyde | i hear you, i'm in links i just didn't want to run another window |
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| 04:16.33 | oops | any idea why the same vim colorscheme would appear different on three different terminals (urxvt on top, gnome-terminal on left, mrxvt on right) |
| 04:16.33 | Rusty1 | like we're here to do your googling for you, gimme a friggin break |
| 04:17.09 | benzaldehyde | Rusty1: i meant off-hand, take it easy |
| 04:18.22 | Rusty1 | takes it any way he can get it |
| 04:18.34 | Rusty1 | :-) |
| 04:19.16 | karlpinc | What's a sane upper limit on hd temperature above which I want to worry? |
| 04:20.34 | phillipsjk | 55C, sample-size 2 (from datasheets) |
| 04:20.45 | karlpinc | I figured exceeding 45C, considering that the operating limit is 60C on a random one of my drives. |
| 04:20.59 | karlpinc | phillipsjk: That's operating limit or? |
| 04:21.28 | phillipsjk | yes for a maxtor and Western digital drive |
| 04:21.49 | phillipsjk | 80GB and 160-Gb |
| 04:22.21 | karlpinc | Is it really supposed to be more than 45 inside a box? (I've not paid any attention to temperature in the past, execpt when things were obviously too hot.) |
| 04:23.03 | karlpinc | phillipsjk: The 60C is a 2TB Samsung. |
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| 04:23.37 | karlpinc | Ok. Well, thanks. I figure I'll give it some slop. If I get too many emails then I'll bump the limit. |
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| 04:24.22 | rypervenche | What's the difference between aptitude safe-upgrade and aptitude full-upgrade? I don't quite understand it. |
| 04:25.19 | karlpinc | rypervenche: My understanding is that full-upgrade does not guarentee backwards compatibility, so it's possible that you may need to change something, somewhere. Or even that something will change like it or not. |
| 04:25.29 | mcurran | how can I recompile my kernel and all packages (everything) with my latest compiler (4.6)? |
| 04:25.45 | karlpinc | rypervenche: You rarely need to do a full-upgrade when running stable. |
| 04:25.55 | rypervenche | Ahhh, I see. |
| 04:27.04 | karlpinc | rypervenche: New to Debian? |
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| 04:27.56 | rypervenche | karlpinc: I am. I am an Ubuntu user and am preparing to jump into Squeeze :) I'm backing up my /home as we speak before going straight into it. |
| 04:28.09 | ham5 | lol |
| 04:28.24 | phillipsjk | karlpinc: if the drives have good airflow they shouldn't rise much past 40C, 45 seems to be a reasonable warning level. If the PSU fan goes out, something else may cook first. |
| 04:28.28 | karlpinc | !tell rypervenche about overview |
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| 04:35.13 | karlpinc | phillipsjk: Jolly good. I've a box with passive cooling and have been burning it in for days and have not exceeded 45. |
| 04:35.56 | karlpinc | phillipsjk: I want to make sure that if somebody puts it inside a box or covers it with a blanket or something I'll get a notice. |
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| 04:36.47 | phillipsjk | CPU temp should rise faster ;) |
| 04:39.59 | karlpinc | phillipsjk: This is true. Know a good monitoring tool? (I wanted to use smartmon on the disks anyway.) |
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| 04:40.48 | phillipsjk | No, I mainly have experience with older hardware without ACPI support. |
| 04:40.57 | thegoodcushion | Is GNOME the default GUI within Debian? |
| 04:41.39 | rypervenche | It is. |
| 04:41.53 | thegoodcushion | ok |
| 04:42.02 | thegoodcushion | Ubuntu is moving away from it so I'm thinking of crossgrading |
| 04:42.04 | karlpinc | phillipsjk: Probably some snmp something.... |
| 04:42.05 | rypervenche | Should I go with ext3 or ext4 when installing Squeeze? |
| 04:42.53 | karlpinc | rypervenche: ext3 is the default, just because it's well tested and squeeze is "stable". ext4 just gives you better fsck times and better large file deletion. YMMV. |
| 04:43.13 | benzaldehyde | thegoodcushion: i use xserver and fluxbox |
| 04:43.31 | karlpinc | rypervenche: I stick with stable because I want it to work, so ext3. But you decide. |
| 04:45.12 | benzaldehyde | ext4 for me |
| 04:45.36 | benzaldehyde | fsck is faster or so it seems |
| 04:45.46 | karlpinc | benzaldehyde: It is. |
| 04:46.01 | rypervenche | Well, I'm not really worried about fsck speed. |
| 04:46.17 | rypervenche | I've always used ext4 on Ubuntu, but if ext3 is more stable...hmm. |
| 04:47.01 | karlpinc | rypervenche: I'm waiting for btrfs (or whatever it is). |
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| 04:47.08 | ksx4system | just use ext4 |
| 04:47.19 | benzaldehyde | rypervenche: just don't use ex2, i made the misstake of taking advice that video played faster on ex2 because journaling slowed down reading, everytime i rebooted the entire system would sit there on fsck and then reboot again |
| 04:47.31 | rypervenche | >< |
| 04:47.56 | karlpinc | Some have had data loss with ext4. But that was when squeeze was still testing and ext4 less developed, I think. |
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| 04:48.32 | rypervenche | Should I set /home to a new partition? and if so, how large should my / be? On my laptop I set it to 10GB and it's at a little more than 9GB at the moment. If I do partition it, I don't want that to happen again. |
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| 04:50.17 | karlpinc | rypervenche: Not having to have hard limits is one reason lvm is handy. |
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| 04:51.05 | karlpinc | rypervenche: There may not be a good reason for having a separate /home. You need to decide. |
| 04:51.51 | karlpinc | rypervenche: (It does keep filling /home from plogging up the whole box.) |
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| 04:54.06 | mjn | hi all...looking for guides/advice on diff's between ubuntu and mint. and also different desktop environments (gnome, kde, xfce and such..) |
| 04:54.24 | mjn | or even just personal preferences and why? |
| 04:54.27 | benzaldehyde | rypervenche: i went with a single partition for all that and swap but i have a pretty limited amount of disk space. what you might really want to look into rather than spliting /home is to get a drop box account and sync up anything to home so that it backs up |
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| 04:56.15 | rypervenche | benzaldehyde: Well I just bought a 1TB external HDD, so I'll be making backups periodically. |
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| 04:58.21 | benzaldehyde | i have one of those but its filled |
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| 04:58.46 | benzaldehyde | i backed up my dvd collection |
| 04:59.08 | rypervenche | Hmmm, should I try out an LVM them? |
| 05:00.48 | benzaldehyde | i had that, if you use it and you go to format later look forward to an eternity |
| 05:03.03 | karlpinc | benzaldehyde: ? |
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| 05:04.38 | karlpinc | !dropbox |
| 05:04.39 | dpkg | Dropbox is a web-based file hosting service, using cloud computing to store/share files. The closed source dropbox.com client is a mess of copyright violations and cannot be distributed by Debian (see Debian bug #610257). The open source <Nautilus> plug-in is not currently packaged, <RFP> filed in Debian bug #544499. |
| 05:05.45 | rypervenche | !ekiga |
| 05:05.45 | dpkg | Ekiga (formerly GnomeMeeting) is a H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client, that supports video chat and is mostly compatible with the proprietary program NetMeeting. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/FAQ http://www.ekiga.org/ #ekiga on irc.gnome.org. |
| 05:06.04 | karlpinc | !tell rypervenche about msg the bot |
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| 05:06.58 | karlpinc | benzaldehyde: Maybe you had the 4kb problem? |
| 05:07.00 | karlpinc | !4kb |
| 05:07.00 | dpkg | Newer (S)ATA drives have 4k sectors, which when not accounted for, can cause performance problems. See http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_4_KiB_sector_issues and http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/01/msg02021.html for more information. |
| 05:07.05 | benzaldehyde | you can also use voxalot, ipkill, google voice and x-lite to make and receive free calls anywhere in the us, can also make interent calls as well |
| 05:07.13 | benzaldehyde | *ipkall |
| 05:08.24 | benzaldehyde | google voice also has 500 text a day text messaging |
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| 05:12.25 | benzaldehyde | i dunno it is a playstation hard drive, probably sata 40 GB |
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| 05:16.16 | Bops | Hi. How does one search for a command by topic, in Debian? eg, let's say I don't know how to delete a file. What would I type at the terminal to get the command that does it? |
| 05:17.04 | rypervenche | Bops: man -k "word(s)" |
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| 05:17.21 | Sudo | make me a sandwich. |
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| 05:17.35 | rypervenche | lol Sudo |
| 05:18.08 | Bops | thanks rypervenche |
| 05:18.19 | rypervenche | yep yep :) |
| 05:18.55 | Sudo | Hello #debian |
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| 05:20.57 | benzaldehyde | Bops: also if there is too much output pipe it, e.g. man -k delete | less |
| 05:21.20 | benzaldehyde | or more |
| 05:21.43 | Sudo | vi or emacs? |
| 05:21.46 | Sudo | what do you prefer? |
| 05:21.48 | Sudo | and why? :) |
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| 05:22.17 | benzaldehyde | i'm a slacker i use nano |
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| 05:25.08 | Bops | well it's showing about 50 results, sorted alphabetically, but somehow no rmdir. |
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| 05:25.32 | rypervenche | Sudo: I use vim, but I honestly haven't tried out emacs enough yet. |
| 05:25.47 | rypervenche | I would like to though. I like the GNU mindset. |
| 05:25.47 | Sudo | fair enough |
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| 05:26.23 | karlpinc | Sudo: Asking that question is just trolling. There've been too many editor wars. |
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| 05:26.50 | rypervenche | Sudo: However, vim seems to be a bit faster to me. Emacs seems to be more versitile when it comes to what you're editting. |
| 05:26.51 | Sudo | Not trolling, I'm a new Debian user. |
| 05:26.57 | karlpinc | rypervenche: Start emacs. Read the screen and take the tuitorial for a few minutes. |
| 05:27.08 | Sudo | I'm wondering what is best for me. |
| 05:27.14 | benzaldehyde | Bops: are you trying to delete a file or directory |
| 05:27.14 | Sudo | I personally only program python on Debian. |
| 05:27.29 | Sudo | I progarm java on my windows though. |
| 05:28.02 | karlpinc | Sudo: I find the modal nature of vim to be insane. Others don't. |
| 05:28.05 | rypervenche | Sudo: If you're doing programming then Emacs may be better for you. |
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| 05:28.49 | rypervenche | Sudo: You've actually inspired me to learn more about emacs :) Here goes. |
| 05:28.50 | Sudo | Ah ok |
| 05:29.00 | karlpinc | rypervenche: Emacs users need remember only one thing. Hold down Ctrl and x, then Ctrl and c to exit. Everything else takes care of itself. |
| 05:29.02 | Sudo | rypervenche: Haha thanks for the advice. |
| 05:29.22 | Sudo | apt-get install emacs |
| 05:29.37 | Sudo | hmm |
| 05:29.38 | rypervenche | What I like about vim is that I don't have to move my fingers for hardly anything. |
| 05:29.40 | karlpinc | Sudo: As a new debian user see below: |
| 05:29.46 | karlpinc | !tell sudo about overview |
| 05:29.56 | rypervenche | Sudo: sudo aptitude install emacs |
| 05:30.26 | phillipsjk | vim users need <esc><esc>wq |
| 05:30.29 | Sudo | oh i already have it my bad ;) |
| 05:30.46 | karlpinc | phillipsjk: Yes, But unless they learn a lot more they can't actually do anything. |
| 05:30.52 | Sudo | btw the !tell command didn't work? |
| 05:31.14 | karlpinc | Sudo: The bot sent you a private message. |
| 05:31.19 | phillipsjk | escaping is more important! :) |
| 05:31.30 | karlpinc | Sudo: Your irc client ate it. |
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| 05:31.45 | Sudo | hmm |
| 05:31.47 | Sudo | it seems so |
| 05:31.56 | Sudo | stupid irssi ;) |
| 05:32.50 | karlpinc | Sudo: Can you find it? (I configured irssi, once upon a time, to not be stupid. I don't want to have to revisit that.) |
| 05:32.54 | rypervenche | Sudo: !tell Sudo about overview |
| 05:32.58 | rypervenche | maybe the caps? |
| 05:33.46 | Sudo | karlpinc: No I can't find it at the moment. |
| 05:33.56 | Sudo | karlpinc: found it |
| 05:33.59 | Sudo | it's on a new act |
| 05:34.03 | Sudo | tab& |
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| 05:35.12 | Sudo | wow emacs is taking a while to install |
| 05:35.15 | karlpinc | Sudo: http://pastebin.com/5ihaBEiC |
| 05:35.44 | Sudo | karlpinc: thanks looking at it now |
| 05:36.08 | Sudo | karlpinc: is that for irssi? |
| 05:36.21 | karlpinc | Sudo: Emacs is a whole universe unto itself. But you can always cut back to mg or zile or jed or such for something tiny. |
| 05:36.26 | karlpinc | Sudo: Yes. |
| 05:36.35 | karlpinc | Sudo: ~/.irssi/startup |
| 05:38.04 | eflynn | Why not just use Emacs erc |
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| 05:38.40 | Bops | what's the name of that CLI-yet-GUI package manager? |
| 05:39.01 | Sudo | karlpinc: so I just add that on the end of the file? |
| 05:39.03 | Bops | not apt, it was something that had its own interface |
| 05:41.16 | benzaldehyde | Bops: update-manager? |
| 05:42.13 | Big_Brother | what do i do if debian says it can't configure DHCP at this time ? |
| 05:42.17 | phillipsjk | aptitude? |
| 05:42.17 | Sudo | now learning emacs :l |
| 05:42.26 | Sudo | how good is jdk for debian? |
| 05:42.31 | benzaldehyde | Bops: dunno if that is right though, ubuntu had that, apititude is more inclusive |
| 05:43.19 | Bops | thanks, it was aptitude |
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| 05:43.36 | benzaldehyde | Big_Brother: i would probably try to restart networking |
| 05:43.53 | Big_Brother | e |
| 05:43.55 | Big_Brother | rr |
| 05:44.04 | Big_Brother | i meant during a netinst. |
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| 05:44.54 | benzaldehyde | hmmm can you get to the command line and /sbin/dhclient device0 |
| 05:45.24 | Sudo | emacs is hard |
| 05:45.25 | Sudo | :l |
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| 05:47.58 | Big_Brother | benzaldehyde, this is a netinstall... i don't think /sbin/ exists. |
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| 05:48.09 | Big_Brother | let alone that command. |
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| 05:51.08 | twanny796 | making a netinst, installation stopped after 'detecting hardware'?? |
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| 05:54.30 | benzaldehyde | Big_Brother: well you are trying to get an ip yeah? no sh? |
| 05:55.06 | twanny796 | benzaldehyde: are you talking to me? |
| 05:55.27 | Big_Brother | yeah, benzaldehyde. |
| 05:56.01 | twanny796 | I have three nic cards, I think? |
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| 05:56.08 | Sudo | emacs is fo freaking hard |
| 05:56.14 | Big_Brother | twanny796, is your name Big_Brother? |
| 05:56.16 | Sudo | worth learning? |
| 05:56.21 | Sudo | or should I go back to vi? |
| 05:56.33 | rypervenche | Sudo: Both are worth trying |
| 05:56.35 | Big_Brother | Sudo: nano imo |
| 05:57.05 | Sudo | emacs looks more powerful than vi |
| 05:57.11 | Sudo | but the learning curve is huge? |
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| 05:57.23 | nkuttler | Sudo: use both. then decide which one hurts your fingers after long sessions |
| 05:57.52 | Sudo | nkuttler: thanks, I'll do that. |
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| 05:58.04 | Sudo | Big_Brother: I might try nano if I find emacs too hard. |
| 05:58.12 | karlpinc | Sudo: meet me on #debian-offtopic and tell me what your problem is. |
| 05:58.15 | Bops | why would anyone code in either of those when there are modern IDEs? |
| 05:58.24 | karlpinc | Bops: Because they're better? |
| 05:58.33 | nkuttler | because no 'IDE' has a decent editor? |
| 05:58.35 | Bops | there Sudo, you've been angling to start a flamewar, I indulged you |
| 05:58.38 | Sudo | karlpinc: sure. |
| 05:58.47 | Bops | Visual Studio does! |
| 05:58.53 | Sudo | Bops: My apologies, I'm new to Debian. |
| 05:59.29 | Bops | heh, no seriously, I'd use a graphical IDE. What are you programming in? |
| 05:59.51 | Sudo | on my text-based Debian, I'm programming in python |
| 05:59.53 | Sudo | on windows, java |
| 05:59.56 | Sudo | but yes, python |
| 06:00.04 | Bops | oh, text-based |
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| 06:00.09 | Bops | nm then, keep trucking |
| 06:00.56 | Sudo | I'm sshing, which is why I'm using text-based |
| 06:01.48 | nkuttler | Sudo: there's ssh -X of course. not that there's anything wrong with text-based interfaces |
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| 06:02.38 | twanny796 | doing a netinst, installation stopped with detecting network hardware, ...? |
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| 06:03.06 | Sudo | nkuttler: I am loving running CLI Debian. |
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| 06:05.00 | karlpinc | twanny796: Stopped for how long? You can do ctrl-f3 (? maybe f4) to see the logs. That might help. |
| 06:05.16 | karlpinc | twanny796: Are you wired or is this wireless? |
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| 06:06.34 | twanny796 | karlpinc: more than 5 min, will check |
| 06:06.49 | benzaldehyde | karlpinc: he has three nic cards i think he is doing wireless but i am not certain |
| 06:07.14 | ephedrandrox | Anyone suggest channel for debian on Android? |
| 06:07.43 | karlpinc | benzaldehyde: I'm not a wireless sorta guy. |
| 06:07.50 | benzaldehyde | me neither |
| 06:08.06 | twanny796 | karlpinc: cannot do ctrl-f3/f4, rebooted |
| 06:08.38 | karlpinc | twanny796: Sorry. It's the alt key, not ctrl. |
| 06:08.52 | Bushmills | grin. rebooting fixes it all. |
| 06:08.59 | karlpinc | (My fingers know what my brain does not.) |
| 06:09.21 | benzaldehyde | Bushmills: amen |
| 06:10.07 | Bushmills | "it may help, you never know. lets try it first" |
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| 06:12.44 | ephedrandrox | Why arnt more people excited bout running x on their android? |
| 06:13.15 | ephedrandrox | I feel like I've been waiting for 10th years for this |
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| 06:18.59 | twanny796 | karlpinc: I have three nic's and a wireless |
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| 06:26.37 | Sudo | python wins :) |
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| 06:28.33 | qwe_ | hi, does debian use pulseaudio ? |
| 06:28.53 | Bushmills | depends on what you call "use". it is available, and gnome installs it |
| 06:29.06 | qwe_ | ok |
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| 06:29.31 | Bushmills | ehm. ignore that with gnome, |
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| 06:30.04 | Bushmills | gnome-media does |
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| 06:34.20 | karlpinc | twanny796: Sorry. It's the alt key, not ctrl. |
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| 06:38.43 | Bushmills | or both at the same time. works always, also when in X |
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| 06:41.25 | Bushmills | does the graphical installer use frame buffer or X? |
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| 06:42.33 | twanny796 | I need to download e100/d101m_ucode.bin, any good links? |
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| 06:43.18 | tweek_ | Bushmills: on Lenny, the graphical installer was in X, but it was an exact gtk clone of the framebuffer one |
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| 06:43.53 | Inumedia | Anyway I can start X from the BusyBox while installing? |
| 06:44.22 | Inumedia | er while performing a net-install |
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| 06:47.49 | karlpinc | Inumedia: Sounds unlikely. Use a debian-live cd and debootstrap? |
| 06:48.25 | Inumedia | I'm trying to get to a GUI while using the text install. I've got an hour wait time and I'm bored to death. And I don't plan on rebooting. |
| 06:49.29 | tweek_ | Inumedia: lynx? |
| 06:49.36 | karlpinc | Inumedia: Entertain yourself by watching the install logs scroll by? |
| 06:49.52 | Inumedia | tweek_: ? |
| 06:49.54 | Bushmills | what's wrong with a console? |
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| 06:49.59 | Inumedia | karlpinc: Not very entertaining in my opinion :P |
| 06:50.01 | tweek_ | Inumedia: read a book. they are those things made of paper. they are like framebuffers,but they don't move |
| 06:50.15 | Inumedia | Bushmills: I don't have enough knowledge of it to do anything with it. |
| 06:50.24 | Bushmills | that's your chance to change it |
| 06:50.40 | Inumedia | hah, true |
| 06:50.51 | karlpinc | Bushmills: Except he's in the installer's busybox. Not much to read. |
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| 06:51.08 | Inumedia | tweek_: The only book I have within arm's reach is 2 books about .Net 2.0 |
| 06:51.19 | Inumedia | And I'd sooner burn in hell then read those. |
| 06:51.22 | Inumedia | :P |
| 06:51.56 | karlpinc | Inumedia: You could attempt to talk to someone of the opposite sex. No doubt if you tell them you're installing Debian _as_you_speak_ you'll get points. ;-) |
| 06:52.11 | Inumedia | Karlpinc: It's 2 AM :P |
| 06:52.13 | Bushmills | well, you have IRC - means, you also have internet. there is documentation in the net |
| 06:52.31 | karlpinc | !reference |
| 06:52.32 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. The latest version (v2) is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ . Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install this too, the package name is debian-reference: 'aptitude install debian-reference' |
| 06:52.56 | Inumedia | reads it. |
| 06:53.00 | karlpinc | Inumedia: Best time. Get 'em while they're groggy. |
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| 06:53.22 | Inumedia | hah. |
| 06:53.34 | Inumedia | ... oh fuck that reference manual is huge. |
| 06:54.05 | Inumedia | Damn |
| 06:54.09 | Inumedia | Can't use apt-get ;_; |
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| 06:54.15 | Bushmills | there's probably some "learn debian in 10 short sessions of one minute" tutorial around |
| 06:54.39 | Bushmills | "debian in a nullshed" |
| 06:54.51 | tr1p | I tried installing phpBB in debian via Synaptic Packet Manager, and it auto downloaded all the other files i.e mysql php. But when it was trying to setup the mysql it said it couldnt connect to it then gave option on the next screen to abort? someoen have a site with step by step another way or whats wrong? |
| 06:54.52 | gpm | Bushmills: nutshell? |
| 06:55.01 | Bushmills | ah, yes |
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| 06:55.20 | Bushmills | artistic license |
| 06:55.38 | gpm | oh totally. just clarifying. |
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| 06:55.44 | cahoot | artistic eula attached? |
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| 06:56.18 | gpm | i think artistic license was being employed with "nullshed" |
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| 06:57.29 | Inumedia | I know what I can do =D |
| 06:58.05 | Bushmills | tr1p: just guessing: phpBB wanted the sql password, to create a database. the entered password is not the same as entered during mysql installation |
| 06:58.32 | ephedrandrox | You gotta frame buffer probably but should just install console try 'startx' |
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| 06:59.03 | Inumedia | >startx: not found |
| 06:59.21 | tr1p | whats the pw then |
| 06:59.25 | Lanz | Hey guys. udev is broken in tonight's upload to sid, be warned before you update |
| 06:59.47 | Lanz | Doesn't work for me on a desktop with an ASUS P8P67, nor my buddy on his laptop |
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| 06:59.53 | Lanz | Crashes on boot |
| 07:00.14 | Lanz | Downgrading to version 167 fixes it, in case anyone already updated and had no working input once X started |
| 07:00.25 | Bartzy|work | Hey |
| 07:00.28 | Inumedia | >sudo: not found |
| 07:00.29 | Inumedia | ... ;_; |
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| 07:01.12 | Inumedia | ^ What? |
| 07:01.44 | Bushmills | su |
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| 07:01.54 | Bushmills | though, in installer you shouldn't need that |
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| 07:02.29 | Bushmills | did you happen to have used ubuntu before? |
| 07:02.29 | Inumedia | >whoami: not found D: |
| 07:02.36 | Inumedia | Yeah but I hated it |
| 07:02.49 | Bushmills | the sudo gives a hint that you did |
| 07:02.49 | gpm | why? |
| 07:02.51 | Inumedia | It made me want to stab infant children multiple times. |
| 07:03.07 | gpm | yes, sudo-love stinks of ubuntu |
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| 07:03.12 | Inumedia | When I tried to move the mouse up with my touchpad, it'd move at a snails pace. |
| 07:03.20 | Inumedia | When I moved left/right it would zip across my screen. |
| 07:03.23 | Inumedia | ... |
| 07:03.38 | ephedrandrox | Agree or disagree: txt is most direct transfer? |
| 07:03.42 | Bushmills | luckily there exist config files |
| 07:03.46 | gpm | sounds like a driver issue. but i'm guessing and glad that it works fine on debian |
| 07:03.51 | ephedrandrox | Between humans |
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| 07:03.59 | Inumedia | Bushmills: I searched high and low for ways to configure it. |
| 07:04.05 | Inumedia | I spent a week searching for a week to stop it. |
| 07:04.12 | Bushmills | ephedrandrox: disagree. bits, packed into bytes, are |
| 07:04.13 | Inumedia | Nothing. ;_; |
| 07:04.27 | Inumedia | >Haven't tried it on Debian |
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| 07:04.32 | Inumedia | I'll have to try it later |
| 07:04.46 | Inumedia | It was with two monitors. |
| 07:04.54 | daemon_mum | anyone here familiar with vps? I installed pptpd on a vps but i cant get it to work. I've tried everrything and i think the problem is that there are no modules on this distro |
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| 07:05.18 | Bushmills | what is "this distro"? |
| 07:05.20 | Inumedia | What |
| 07:05.32 | daemon_mum | i've gone as far as upgrading from lenny to sid |
| 07:05.35 | Inumedia | What's the equivalent of Telnet in linux? |
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| 07:05.46 | gpm | Inumedia: telnet |
| 07:05.46 | Bushmills | same, but lowercase T |
| 07:05.47 | daemon_mum | Inumedia: telnet |
| 07:05.55 | Inumedia | telnet: not found ;_; |
| 07:06.01 | ephedrandrox | Bushmills: but its about transfer of data an idea usually begins with language |
| 07:06.01 | Inumedia | pouts. ;_; |
| 07:06.01 | gpm | apt-get install telnet |
| 07:06.07 | Inumedia | >apt-get: not found |
| 07:06.11 | gpm | oh boy |
| 07:06.16 | Inumedia | I tried that earlier |
| 07:06.24 | ephedrandrox | Ssh is better then telnet |
| 07:06.26 | Inumedia | Reminds me of when I was toying around with the cr-48 ;_; |
| 07:06.27 | gpm | well dpkg your way to apt-get? |
| 07:06.29 | Bushmills | ephedrandrox: tell that to somebody, transferring a public key |
| 07:06.33 | Inumedia | >ssh: not found |
| 07:06.38 | daemon_mum | i am tyring to conenct to vpn from windows 7 to my vps vpn box but its just not conencting |
| 07:06.39 | Inumedia | dpkg: not found |
| 07:06.39 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Inumedia |
| 07:06.42 | ephedrandrox | But telnet can be Linux |
| 07:06.47 | Inumedia | Wat |
| 07:06.54 | gpm | Inumedia: dude it's time to reinstall |
| 07:07.03 | Inumedia | >Is installing as we speak |
| 07:07.04 | daemon_mum | sudo rm -rf |
| 07:07.12 | Inumedia | >40 min remaining |
| 07:07.13 | Inumedia | ;_; |
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| 07:07.20 | daemon_mum | sudo rm -rf -yyyyyy |
| 07:07.20 | Bushmills | ephedrandrox: or, a .tgz file |
| 07:07.23 | Inumedia | Also: http://inumedia.net/cr-48/ |
| 07:07.35 | daemon_mum | i need help!!! |
| 07:07.39 | Inumedia | Fun times. |
| 07:07.39 | daemon_mum | :( /cry a little |
| 07:08.04 | ephedrandrox | Well no doubt multimedia is better then single |
| 07:08.34 | ephedrandrox | But for direct communication.... From host to host |
| 07:08.34 | gpm | no |
| 07:08.38 | gpm | ALL TXT |
| 07:08.38 | daemon_mum | how does vps work that there is not a single module installed? |
| 07:09.00 | Bushmills | ephedrandrox: a cable between them is a rather direct way of connecting them |
| 07:09.22 | ephedrandrox | Where do I plug in |
| 07:09.33 | Bushmills | daemon_mum: what is "this distro" on your vps? |
| 07:09.48 | daemon_mum | Bushmills: debian lenny which i upgraded to sid |
| 07:09.54 | Bushmills | !sid |
| 07:09.55 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 07:10.00 | daemon_mum | Bushmills: upgrade went smooth |
| 07:10.08 | Bushmills | you wouldn't call sid an "upgrade" |
| 07:10.13 | simonlnu | !sid upgrade |
| 07:10.14 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use <stable> or <testing> instead. See also <sid upgrade test>. |
| 07:10.17 | ephedrandrox | Ahaha sry, in a bar on my Android.... |
| 07:10.25 | simonlnu | !sid upgrade test |
| 07:10.25 | dpkg | If you can't work out how to upgrade your machine to testing (or unstable), then this is probably a good indication that you (a) don't know enough about Debian to be able to solve the inevitable problems you will face and (b) you don't know how to use google or documentation to answer really easy questions. If either of these apply, you shouldn't be using unstable (or even testing) and we're not going to help you do so. |
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| 07:10.54 | daemon_mum | :( i did this because i could not get it to work in lenny i thought newer version might have fix |
| 07:10.55 | gpm | awww |
| 07:11.00 | daemon_mum | but same exact problem |
| 07:11.06 | gpm | that almost makes me want to use sid. |
| 07:11.06 | daemon_mum | service starts |
| 07:11.12 | simonlnu | lenny is oldstable... |
| 07:11.13 | Bushmills | daemon_mum: what broke? |
| 07:11.30 | daemon_mum | Bushmills: nothing broke i can't setup pptpd to work. windows just doesnt conenct |
| 07:11.35 | daemon_mum | netstat tells me it's listening |
| 07:11.55 | Bushmills | what vps software is your sid running under? |
| 07:12.01 | daemon_mum | pptpd |
| 07:12.04 | daemon_mum | oh vps |
| 07:12.16 | daemon_mum | hmm the one that everyone uses i guess it's burst.net |
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| 07:12.29 | gpm | this does not bode well. |
| 07:12.35 | Inumedia | regrets performing a net-install. ;_; |
| 07:12.41 | Bushmills | "everyone" seems to use openvz which is suckish. |
| 07:13.31 | daemon_mum | openvz is correct |
| 07:13.39 | Bushmills | there may be the problem |
| 07:13.54 | daemon_mum | openvz is screwing me??? |
| 07:13.59 | gpm | it _is_ suckish |
| 07:14.15 | daemon_mum | i tested the port by running another server on it and it was fine |
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| 07:14.29 | daemon_mum | i was testing via voip software which connected and ran smoothing on port 1723 |
| 07:14.33 | Bushmills | it's not full virtualisation. it is more like a chroot on steroids |
| 07:15.01 | Bushmills | there's why you don't have modules - your guest doesn't have its own kernel |
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| 07:15.59 | Bushmills | get a full virtualisation vps instead |
| 07:16.41 | daemon_mum | but this is $6 am onth |
| 07:16.48 | Bushmills | well, then keep it |
| 07:16.56 | daemon_mum | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.02 | daemon_mum | but i want vpn |
| 07:17.03 | gpm | aww |
| 07:17.04 | Bushmills | and consider to use openvpn instead of pptp |
| 07:17.08 | benzaldehyde | ghahahaha |
| 07:17.52 | benzaldehyde | i laugh because that is my life, one weepy moment to the next |
| 07:18.39 | daemon_mum | ill try openvpn maybe that would work i hope |
| 07:18.46 | gpm | i find i have to be the sad clown |
| 07:19.18 | Bushmills | daemon_mum: you're likely to experience problems with that too. /j #openvpn, and enter !openvz |
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| 07:20.55 | daemon_mum | thanks, ill try my luck some more |
| 07:21.19 | daemon_mum | that or $30+ a month -.- |
| 07:21.23 | Bushmills | you can also enter !pptp there |
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| 07:22.52 | benzaldehyde | daemon_mum: i use to use itshidden.com VPN, there is also vhosts |
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| 07:24.58 | hanibana | hi all. We have a local Debian mirror which has been created by apt-mirror and has the packages of both Lenny and Etch. How can I create another mirror from it, but just contain Lenny packages? |
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| 07:26.00 | benzaldehyde | hanibana: what an unusual nickname |
| 07:26.06 | benzaldehyde | :) |
| 07:27.56 | rypervenche | Is there a place I can find the version of a package in Squeeze when I'm not on Debian? |
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| 07:28.29 | gpm | !pdo |
| 07:28.29 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for Debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/ in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 07:29.09 | Tom01 | I am trying to start irssi from bootmisc.h with su username -c "irssi&" But that does not seem to be working. How can I start it at boot? |
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| 07:29.34 | Bushmills | rypervenche: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 07:29.45 | rypervenche | gpm: Haha, thanks. I almost got pissed by dpkg's attitude, didn't realize it was the bot :X |
| 07:30.01 | Inumedia | Fuck this shit. I'm installing Ubuntu Maverick. ;_; |
| 07:30.08 | hanibana | benzaldehyde: I like it :D . An area of a mountain in my birthplace! So nostalgic for me ;-) |
| 07:30.25 | rypervenche | Inumedia: Why the decision? |
| 07:30.26 | Bushmills | or, use judd here |
| 07:30.33 | Bushmills | ,versions bash |
| 07:30.35 | judd | Package bash on i386 -- lenny: 3.2-4; sid: 4.1-3; squeeze: 4.1-3; wheezy: 4.1-3 |
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| 07:31.07 | gpm | rypervenche: dpkg can have all the attitude he wants. he's a problem-solver. |
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| 07:31.21 | Inumedia | rypervenche: Tired of waiting. :P |
