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| 00:03.31 | arghh2d2 | wtf? i just want the damn lame pkg... somebody please tell me how... i've added nonfree to the end of all the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and it fails... i've tried adding the debian-multimedia.org repos and they fail on account of missing public keys or whatever... i try googling the solution and every thread goes off on some random tangent and i can't figure this out.. help pleas |
| 00:04.17 | arghh2d2 | running squeeze |
| 00:04.29 | dvs | it's "non-free" |
| 00:04.41 | fenugreek | arghh2d2: um... any particular package? |
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| 00:06.06 | arghh2d2 | dvs: thanks! everything i googled said to add nonfree without the hyphen, non-free worked |
| 00:06.14 | babilen | heh :) |
| 00:06.24 | dvs | really? |
| 00:06.42 | fenugreek | he probably googled how to do things wrong $ |
| 00:06.48 | arghh2d2 | dvs: yeah, at least two linuxquestions.org threads |
| 00:07.02 | arghh2d2 | fenugreek: hurrr..sofunny |
| 00:07.22 | fenugreek | arghh2d2: =) |
| 00:07.45 | arghh2d2 | -.- |
| 00:07.46 | proq | that's funny |
| 00:08.33 | fenugreek | http://www.google.com/search?q=sources+non+free+site:wiki.debian.org |
| 00:08.43 | fenugreek | useful site to search, what what |
| 00:08.47 | proq | when I google for "debian how to add non free", almost all the results say non-free |
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| 00:09.36 | arghh2d2 | can't believe you actually have time for that nonsense |
| 00:09.42 | arghh2d2 | sorry, non-sense |
| 00:09.50 | proq | arghh2d2: don't worry, I get tunnel vision too |
| 00:09.58 | fenugreek | I guess it doesn't help there are a lot of packages out there that end in "-nonfree" |
| 00:10.13 | proq | arghh2d2: yeah, irc makes a good compile-time activity |
| 00:10.24 | fenugreek | proq: way ahead of you |
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| 00:11.47 | magyar | hi, how can i check for IO errors if any on squeeze? |
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| 00:12.24 | fenugreek | think you'd notice them |
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| 00:13.17 | magyar | what about IO performance |
| 00:13.19 | magyar | ? |
| 00:13.47 | arghh2d2 | Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 00:14.01 | arghh2d2 | ^ how do i find what refers to it? |
| 00:14.48 | dvs | arghh2d2: libmp3lame0 |
| 00:15.02 | babilen | magyar: bonnie++ is a good tool |
| 00:15.44 | arghh2d2 | dvs: no love... |
| 00:15.50 | arghh2d2 | errd |
| 00:16.00 | arghh2d2 | dvs: lemmee try with the 0 at the end |
| 00:16.27 | arghh2d2 | referred to by another pkg but is not available |
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| 00:17.07 | magyar | babilen: thanks, i'll give it a whirl |
| 00:17.20 | arghh2d2 | this is frustrating |
| 00:17.24 | dvs | arghh2d2: you need multimedia.org |
| 00:18.48 | arghh2d2 | dvs: i tried that i think |
| 00:19.08 | arghh2d2 | dvs: apt-get update and it complained about no pubic keys |
| 00:19.18 | dvs | tthat's fine |
| 00:19.39 | babilen | arghh2d2: follow the instruction on the dmm page ... |
| 00:19.49 | babilen | arghh2d2: and you can ignore that *warning* |
| 00:19.56 | arghh2d2 | dmm? |
| 00:20.29 | babilen | arghh2d2: You need to install debian-multimedia-keyring (dmm == debian multimedia) |
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| 00:21.01 | dvs | !multimedia |
| 00:21.01 | dpkg | [dmm] Debian Multimedia is a repository of unofficial packages maintained by Christian Marillat, not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For information on how to access, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm squeeze> <dmm lenny>. During 2010, this repository grew a non-free part, with all binary-only packages moved there; you may need to add " non-free" to your sources lines. See also <dmm mirrors>, <dmm list>. |
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| 00:21.15 | arghh2d2 | babilen: what page? i google debian dmm and see nothing but helpme forums |
| 00:21.24 | dvs | ^^^ |
| 00:21.42 | ScottG | How do I install a ttf font to X? |
| 00:21.46 | arghh2d2 | thanks |
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| 00:21.51 | babilen | arghh2d2: http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 00:21.58 | babilen | !tell arghh2d2 about dmm |
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| 00:22.40 | arghh2d2 | aaahhhhh |
| 00:23.13 | fenugreek | ScottG: http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts |
| 00:23.15 | arghh2d2 | babilen: dvs: there's instructions on that page? i just see a list of repos |
| 00:23.32 | deb|ws2k3 | hello guys if i hit top i have one proces comsumesslot of processor |
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| 00:23.48 | atannus_ | poisonbit, u there? |
| 00:23.57 | deb|ws2k3 | i can see the command but not the paramaters when i hit ps-aus i can seet he parameters but not the procesor cosume |
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| 00:24.08 | proq | arghh2d2: those *are* the instructions... "add in your sources.list..." |
| 00:24.49 | atannus_ | Hello, fine gentlemen of this channel! I'm logged into my first ever debian installatino! :) |
| 00:25.06 | fenugreek | atannus_: booya! |
| 00:25.23 | proq | !beer atannus_ |
| 00:25.23 | dpkg | pours a pint of Spaten Pils for atannus_ |
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| 00:25.37 | babilen | !champagne atannus_ |
| 00:25.37 | dpkg | puts on a sexy miniskirt and showers atannus_ in the finest Mercier champagne. |
| 00:25.48 | atannus_ | Obrigado! |
| 00:25.55 | proq | ha |
| 00:26.50 | babilen | arghh2d2: yeah, put those repos in your sources.list, run aptitude update and install debian-multimedia-keyring (you'll get a warning that you can ignore) |
| 00:26.58 | atannus_ | this looks sleek... some things got messed up running full screen on vbox, but other than that, looks pretty good. |
| 00:27.03 | dvs | for the last time |
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| 00:27.28 | atannus_ | So, what does one do with a brand new debian install? |
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| 00:27.48 | dvs | play! |
| 00:27.58 | atannus_ | no default ide... |
| 00:28.07 | dvs | install one! |
| 00:28.21 | atannus_ | DLing! |
| 00:28.27 | dvs | OK! |
| 00:28.42 | atannus_ | setup lamp. |
| 00:28.59 | proq | atannus_: you install your apps and run them, of course! |
| 00:29.19 | proq | well, unless you wanted it to be a server |
| 00:29.19 | atannus_ | yeah. imma do dat. |
| 00:29.37 | atannus_ | I see I'm not a sudoer off the box. |
| 00:29.38 | atannus_ | hehehe! |
| 00:30.42 | cusco_ | use su |
| 00:30.46 | cusco_ | and root password |
| 00:31.00 | arghh2d2 | omg debian is so not for me... arch needs better ppc support.. this is ridic |
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| 00:31.09 | atannus_ | cusco_, where I come from, that's a no-no... "thou shalt never be su" |
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| 00:32.00 | cusco_ | atannus_: I have boxes that only account in there is root |
| 00:32.24 | cusco_ | sudo will do the same so.. |
| 00:32.26 | babilen | atannus_: Install sudo and add yourself to the "sudo" group (adduser YOUR_USERNAME sudo) log out and back in |
| 00:33.30 | atannus_ | cusco_, I'm sure you're careful enough. I'm too noob to be issuing commands are root all the time. ;) |
| 00:33.33 | babilen | atannus_: Ah, you probably know that. Well, you definitely want to setup vim + vundle + python + clojure + leiningen + ... + awesomewm + git + ... ;) |
| 00:33.34 | proq | atannus_: now now, don't start a flamewar about sudo vs. root |
| 00:34.14 | atannus_ | proq, there's flamewars on that too? geez! haha |
| 00:34.31 | atannus_ | that's how noob I am! ;) |
| 00:34.31 | atannus_ | I didn't know that... |
| 00:34.35 | proq | yeah.... since there are pros and cons to each, and each camp thinks their pros are better |
| 00:34.37 | cusco_ | atannus_: at least you're aware of it... seems that you're on the right track then |
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| 00:36.11 | atannus_ | L A and P are up! |
| 00:36.36 | babilen | atannus_: add another P (i.e. postgresql) in there and you are fine :) |
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| 00:36.44 | dvs | yeah! |
| 00:36.48 | atannus_ | lol |
| 00:36.54 | babilen | atannus_: And, and the last P better be Perl not PHP :) |
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| 00:37.02 | atannus_ | i'm gonna go with M for now, boys. |
| 00:37.08 | cusco_ | lol |
| 00:37.08 | babilen | nooooooo! |
| 00:37.14 | atannus_ | babilen, PHP!!! sorry! |
| 00:37.19 | atannus_ | big fan too! |
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| 00:37.34 | cusco_ | choice is power |
| 00:37.40 | babilen | yeah |
| 00:38.10 | atannus_ | The little differences... exciting for now. |
| 00:38.29 | babilen | atannus_: Which distro are you used to? |
| 00:38.40 | atannus_ | I'm curious to see where this goes. Let's see how long it takes me to feel safe to promote Debian to bare-metal. |
| 00:38.43 | fenugreek | babilen++ |
| 00:38.46 | atannus_ | babilen, Ubuntu. |
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| 00:39.01 | fenugreek | oh you're using a VM? |
| 00:39.06 | atannus_ | yep |
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| 00:39.11 | proq | atannus_: not happy with unity? :P |
| 00:39.12 | fenugreek | the idea of considering Ubuntu safer than Debian for a server... =P |
| 00:39.13 | atannus_ | I'm trying out. |
| 00:39.17 | atannus_ | proq right on. |
| 00:39.18 | babilen | atannus_: Ah, you should feel right at home than :) |
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| 00:39.50 | atannus_ | proq, I loaded that onto my notebook and wanted to puke right away. |
| 00:39.53 | fenugreek | no friend of Ubuntu here, but youknow you can _not use Unity_ even in Ubuntu |
| 00:39.59 | atannus_ | If I want OSX, I'll get a mac, damnit. |
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| 00:40.29 | atannus_ | fenugreek, I know. It's the "reinventing the wheel" every release that got to my nerve. |
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| 00:41.04 | atannus_ | why the hell move the window controls to the left? they been on the right for 20 years. |
| 00:41.08 | fenugreek | really it's that it chooses a DE for you at all |
| 00:41.16 | proq | yeah... I'm probably going to be scarred for life by that |
| 00:41.27 | fenugreek | one time I saw Ubuntu |
| 00:41.32 | fenugreek | had to hide in my closet for months |
| 00:41.39 | atannus_ | proq, do I sense sarcasm? |
| 00:41.50 | proq | atannus_: no, I'm seriously mad about it |
| 00:42.10 | atannus_ | proq, ok... me too, for real. my girlfriend says it's not that big a deal... what does she know. |
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| 00:42.34 | atannus_ | do you know how many times I hit "close" instead of "File"??????? dO YOU? |
| 00:42.47 | babilen | ok, enough Ubuntu bashing. Please take it to #debian-offtopic ... |
| 00:42.49 | proq | changing the grub format in grub2, all the network setup scripts changing, ignoring .xsession, the list goes on and on |
| 00:43.10 | rww | or #ubuntu-offtopic, since they all do it there too ;P |
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| 00:43.22 | babilen | rww: Or that :) |
| 00:43.50 | atannus_ | sorry, babilen. needed to get it off my system. |
| 00:43.53 | atannus_ | :) |
| 00:44.35 | fenugreek | still, it's cool if your girlfriend likes Linux at all =P |
| 00:44.56 | fenugreek | well, Debian is going to get GRUB2, too |
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| 00:45.07 | fenugreek | and probably Unity |
| 00:45.07 | dondelelcaro | We already have grub2. |
| 00:45.11 | fenugreek | but it'll have ordinary GNOME, too |
| 00:45.16 | fenugreek | and won't force any on you |
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| 00:45.22 | fenugreek | dondelelcaro: for stable I mean |
| 00:45.29 | dondelelcaro | fenugreek: it's already in stable |
| 00:45.34 | dondelelcaro | it's even the default |
| 00:45.34 | fenugreek | no way |
| 00:45.37 | fenugreek | wow |
| 00:45.44 | babilen | fenugreek: Unity has not yet been packages (there is an ITP though) -- gnome3 will soonish hit unstable and we already have grub2 |
| 00:45.52 | fenugreek | babilen: yeah but it will be |
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| 00:46.19 | fenugreek | I guess if Debian stable is using GRUB2, it's time to switch on my Gentoo box |
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| 00:46.33 | fenugreek | wow, didn't get a single person |
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| 00:46.44 | atannus_ | what's with grub2? why is it better? |
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| 00:46.51 | ikanobori | It has a 2. |
| 00:46.58 | fenugreek | atannus_: it's GRUB that's been developed more |
| 00:47.14 | atannus_ | fenugreek, I can get that far... ;) |
| 00:47.15 | fenugreek | unlike some packages ending with 2, GRUB2 is _actually_ the second version of the original GRUB |
| 00:47.20 | fenugreek | looks at "mplayer2" nonsense |
| 00:47.26 | fenugreek | looks at "XMMS2" nonsense |
| 00:47.30 | xemacs4321 | grub2 can boot iso images from hardisk |
| 00:47.43 | rww | which is really nice |
| 00:47.49 | xemacs4321 | and a whole lot more |
| 00:47.49 | atannus_ | that is really nice. |
| 00:48.00 | fenugreek | too bad about the config file syntax changes |
| 00:48.16 | atannus_ | I just had to burn a CD (hadn't in like 13 months) to install debian. I wondered if anything could boot from an ISO. |
| 00:48.24 | atannus_ | :) |
| 00:48.46 | babilen | fenugreek: I am actually pretty happy with the config file changes and scripts YMMV |
| 00:49.13 | dvs | atannus: you have a USB key? ;-) |
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| 00:49.18 | xemacs4321 | grub2 has lua builtin |
| 00:49.42 | xemacs4321 | or config option . .......... |
| 00:49.43 | atannus | yes |
| 00:49.55 | atannus | vbox won't boot from one though |
| 00:50.00 | dvs | you didn't have to burn a CD then |
| 00:50.08 | fenugreek | babilen: it's not rocket science, but it's also obviously more complex than the previous style |
| 00:50.10 | dvs | awwww |
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| 00:50.31 | atannus | well, I didn't see an option to boot from usb. |
| 00:50.43 | xemacs4321 | oh and newest realease has a manuaul even |
| 00:51.20 | fenugreek | atannus: you installed to a vbox HD from a physical CD? |
| 00:51.59 | atannus | vbox hd |
| 00:52.12 | fenugreek | atannus: ...installed from a physical CD? |
| 00:52.46 | ikanobori | vbox can mount isos too disk drives for the vm... |
| 00:54.27 | atannus | fenugreek, yes. |
| 00:54.40 | fenugreek | atannus: well it's like ikanobori says |
| 00:54.50 | fenugreek | you go into settings, storage |
| 00:54.53 | fenugreek | there's a little disc icon |
| 00:55.00 | fenugreek | click around, find an iso, badabingbadaboom |
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| 00:55.19 | fenugreek | an "iso" I should say =P |
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| 00:55.55 | atannus_ | VirtualBox |
| 00:56.30 | fenugreek | yes, talking about VirtualBox |
| 00:56.42 | fenugreek | for future reference, no need to burn physical media to use with it |
| 00:56.43 | atannus_ | This was too easy. lamp, netbeans, eclipse, xdebug imported shell scripts. |
| 00:56.56 | atannus_ | fenugreek, I'm looking, I see no such icon. |
| 00:57.00 | fenugreek | yeah they should rename it Too Easy GNU/Linux |
| 00:57.06 | fenugreek | atannus_: which version of virtualbox? |
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| 00:57.25 | atannus | 328 |
| 00:57.32 | fenugreek | on Ubuntu? |
| 00:57.36 | atannus | yes |
| 00:58.12 | atannus | "new" opens a wizard... |
| 00:58.36 | fenugreek | atannus: new what? |
| 00:58.43 | atannus | new VM. |
| 00:58.47 | fenugreek | yes it would |
| 00:58.51 | fenugreek | you want settings |
| 00:58.54 | fenugreek | http://foxlinx.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/image_thumb3.png?w=581&h=426 |
| 00:59.01 | fenugreek | settings > storage |
| 00:59.19 | fenugreek | click on the disc under the ide controller / vdi on the left-ish |
| 00:59.23 | atannus | Oh... |
| 00:59.26 | fenugreek | then over ont he right you browse for an image |
| 00:59.31 | atannus | ohhhhhhhhh |
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| 00:59.39 | fenugreek | it's not particularly obvious, but it's there |
| 00:59.55 | atannus | I did it in one run. I never even opened settings... created the HD from the wizard, picked the CD to install, and moved from there. |
| 00:59.55 | fenugreek | they'll probably have changed it some by the next time you have to use vbox =P |
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| 01:01.13 | atannus | fenugreek, right, I found it. |
| 01:01.31 | atannus | that will be handy. |
| 01:01.37 | atannus_ | agreed |
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| 01:02.03 | wad | I'm about to make some changes to my iptables, but I was just wondering something first: |
| 01:02.13 | wad | When this server reboots, will the changes still be here? |
| 01:02.32 | wad | Or is there something else I need to do to make them permanent? |
| 01:02.53 | atannus_ | This thing runs pretty fast for a VM too. |
| 01:02.58 | atannus_ | damn. |
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| 01:04.31 | babilen | wad: Yes, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables for an approach. Another approach is to write a iptables init script (see /etc/init.d/skeleton and /etc/init.d/README) that executes the command you want. The former (iptables-restore) can also be put into /etc/network/interfaces in the pre-up stanza for an existing interface if you want it coupled with a specific interface |
| 01:04.49 | Agiofws | can anyone here tell me what package i missing to compile this |
| 01:04.50 | wad | ah |
| 01:04.51 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/9tpgV1oY |
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| 01:06.59 | proq | babilen: I'm not trying to bash ubuntu - I have it installed on five machines. it's the principle that all software sucks. |
| 01:08.34 | babilen | proq: yeah, just wanted to stop the off-topic chatter and I also dislike bashing ubuntu. There is a very healthy relationship between Debian and Ubuntu and I wouldn't want to miss Ubuntu from the distribution ecosystem. That, however, doesn't mean that one has to like their technical decisions. </comment> |
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| 01:12.12 | mnajem | hi, i want to ask question regarding wheezy/testing |
| 01:12.16 | mnajem | i just installed mine |
| 01:12.32 | mnajem | then when it boots, in the gdm,mouse and keyboard didn't work at all |
| 01:12.35 | mnajem | any clue? |
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| 01:13.10 | babilen | mnajem: Sure, which version of udev to you have installed and do you have a /run directory? |
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| 01:13.49 | mnajem | 167-3 |
| 01:14.09 | mnajem | yes i have /run dir |
| 01:14.20 | mnajem | currently i boots in rescue mode from the DVD |
| 01:14.38 | Agiofws | how can i see what package is related to QGLWidget |
| 01:14.39 | mnajem | otherwise i can't conform all these details to you - in case you're wondering :p |
| 01:15.29 | babilen | mnajem: hmm, the udev maintainer claimed that everything is fine in udev >= 167-1 -- Guess md fucked it up. You could remove /run and/or upgrade/downdgrade udev |
| 01:15.33 | babilen | !udev 620995 |
| 01:15.33 | dpkg | udev 167-1 in sid is currently broken, because it tries to use /run created by base-files 6.2 which is not yet supported by the initscripts version in sid. Downgrade udev, libudev, libgudev-1.0-0 to 166-1 and base-files to 6.1 and remove /run to fix it. Install <apt-listbugs> and see #620995, #620191, #621036 and http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/04/msg00353.html for details. |
| 01:15.55 | mnajem | ok, noted - thanks |
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| 01:16.48 | babilen | mnajem: I wrote that ^^^ factoid when the bug hit sid. The situation may be a bit different right now, but removing /run *will* get you a working system. You have to take care that you sucessfuly complete the /run migration (udev/sysvinit/base-files/...) though |
| 01:17.37 | babilen | mnajem: You could also try the newest udev version in sid ... |
| 01:17.38 | atannus_ | in awe |
| 01:18.09 | mnajem | orait |
| 01:18.42 | atannus_ | now understands the terminology debian-based. |
| 01:18.44 | babilen | mnajem: All that being said: Use *stable* -- wheezy is in a very bad state and you will have to suffer through a bunch of *huge* transitions in the near future, so be *very* careful with it. |
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| 01:19.34 | mnajem | noted, actually dares my self to use wheezy (lol). and the bad stuffs start since the GDM lol |
| 01:19.48 | rww | stable is <3 |
| 01:19.57 | Agiofws | how can i see what package is related to QGLWidget |
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| 01:21.26 | proq | Agiofws: apt-cache search QGLWidget or apt-cache depends QGLWidget, depending on what you mean by "related to" |
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| 01:22.01 | mjmt | Agiofws: apt-file search /usr/include/qt4/*/QGLWidget |
| 01:22.21 | mjmt | If you're referring to the header. |
| 01:22.33 | mjmt | (Says libqt4-opengl-dev btw.) |
| 01:22.46 | babilen | mnajem: If you are interested you might want to read the mails on debian-devel by Roger Leigh and the (udev related) replies by Marco D'Itri (md) -- md claimed that 167-3 fixed this bug, which it obviously didn't. Not sure if you have more luck with the version in sid now (udev 168-1) |
| 01:23.01 | atannus | Fantastic. Debian rocks. |
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| 01:29.00 | arghh2d2 | Does anyone know where I can get the "shorten" pkg for debian? I can't understand how I can have shntool but not the codec required by it |
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| 01:31.23 | boudiccas | I have this line in the root crontab but its not outputting to the relevant file, and i cant see why. can anyone help me please? |
| 01:31.50 | bst | arghh2d2: shntool has native support for .wav files. If you want it to work with other formats, you must have the appropriate helper program installed. Some of these helper programs - notably for Monkey's Audio, wavpack, LPAC, OptimFROG - are not (yet) available in Debian. |
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| 01:32.00 | boudiccas | it would help if i included the line!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 01:32.41 | arghh2d2 | bst: ok, gotcha... i had no idea what all "stable" entailed when i got into this... thanks for the info |
| 01:33.04 | boudiccas | i have this line in the root crontab ......... 30 4 * * * /usr/sbin/logwatch>>/home/boztu/cron/logwatch.txt ............ but its not outputting to the relevant file, and I cant see why. can anyone help me please? |
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| 01:38.42 | proq | boudiccas: you need to break up each part of that into something you can test. run /usr/sbin/logwatch>>/home/boztu/cron/logwatch.txt as root, and put "touch foo" into the crontab |
| 01:38.51 | proq | and see if both work |
| 01:39.37 | jmarsden | boudiccas: Use the --filename option instead of redirecting the output :) |
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| 01:51.34 | boudiccas | what is 'xulrunner.stub' please? ist sitting at the top of 'top' and sint moving at all |
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| 01:53.42 | blast_hardcheese | So, I'm obviously doing something wrong here; I've got a backup that was made of a machine's primary ext3 partition while it was running. Unfortunately, every attempt I've made to fsck this filesystem has resulted in unusable data. The steps I took were: cp <source.img> <working.img> (takes about 20 minutes); losetup /dev/loop0 <working.img>; fsck -fy /dev/loop0 |
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| 01:53.54 | blast_hardcheese | I can't see what's wrong here, that /should/ work |
| 01:53.58 | blast_hardcheese | unless I'm very mistaken |
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| 01:56.40 | monokrome | Hey. Does anyone know if there are "Official" Debian packages for EC2? |
| 01:58.32 | Mr_Brown | Hi, look that http://pastebin.com/bruDbfVj i can not mount the GFS file System on squeeze any idea? |
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| 02:00.04 | blast_hardcheese | I answered my own question; mke2fs -n -S /dev/loop0 displays where all the superblocks are, e2fsck -b <superblock> /dev/loop0 worked |
| 02:00.08 | blast_hardcheese | not sure why I had to do that. |
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| 02:01.38 | yesplease | hi! anybody here is familiar with centOS and could help with wireless? |
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| 02:02.42 | Mr_Brown | Hi, look this please http://pastebin.com/bruDbfVj I can not mount the GFS file System on squeeze any idea? |
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| 02:06.33 | boudiccas | yesplease, is the main OS centos? if so, ask in the #centos channel |
| 02:06.56 | yesplease | i asked them |
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| 02:07.13 | boudiccas | yesplease, and? |
| 02:07.19 | yesplease | didn't get help there |
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| 02:07.28 | blast_hardcheese | ... |
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| 02:07.35 | initself | i am right that this cronjob should have started moments ago? |
| 02:07.37 | initself | 7 19 * * * /var/www/mobilegates/yipit_json/scripts/scripts/yipit_json_to_db.pl /etc/cron.daily 1> /dev/null |
| 02:08.02 | _linuxftw | depends what the local time is where you are |
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| 02:08.18 | initself | Fri Apr 29 19:08:13 PDT 2011 |
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| 02:08.19 | boudiccas | yesplease, how long did you wait? you may have to wait up to an hour to get the right person to answer your questions, its best to just sit and lurk i found and just keep asking your question every half hour |
| 02:08.48 | blast_hardcheese | initself: Are you sure your program actually ran? Try 1>/tmp/output |
| 02:08.54 | _linuxftw | looks like it should of then, yes |
| 02:08.55 | yesplease | spent about 3 hours many people replied but nothing helped me |
| 02:09.15 | initself | blast_hardcheese: ya, i'd like it to log, so /dev/null must be wrong |
| 02:09.26 | boudiccas | yesplease, well, they're the people who know centos best as they use it every day |
| 02:09.28 | initself | i suppose i want /var/log/cron |
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| 02:10.58 | blast_hardcheese | initself: Make sure not to use 1>/var/log/cron |
| 02:11.03 | blast_hardcheese | that'll clobber |
| 02:11.08 | initself | ugh |
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| 02:11.14 | initself | yep |
| 02:11.17 | initself | clobbered |
| 02:11.32 | initself | it apperently clobbered it, and also didn't run a damn thing |
| 02:11.40 | initself | at least the cronjob went off! |
| 02:11.40 | blast_hardcheese | Not true |
| 02:11.45 | blast_hardcheese | Yeah, it /ran/ |
| 02:11.55 | blast_hardcheese | it just didn't do what you wanted it to do. |
| 02:11.56 | initself | it run, unproductively |
| 02:11.58 | initself | aah |
| 02:12.02 | initself | tries again. |
| 02:12.14 | blast_hardcheese | Do you know the language the script is written in? |
| 02:12.17 | blast_hardcheese | (my guess is perl) |
| 02:12.25 | blast_hardcheese | (Also, is the script +x?) |
| 02:12.38 | initself | ok, /var/log/cron is back |
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| 02:12.42 | initself | yes, perl |
| 02:13.00 | initself | yes +x |
| 02:13.06 | yesplease | boudiccas: you are right but some of them just don't want to help (guy having the same chipset as me and who got it working refused to help) |
| 02:13.34 | blast_hardcheese | initself: Try use warings ? |
| 02:13.39 | blast_hardcheese | *warnings |
| 02:13.40 | initself | waiting 1 minute for cron |
| 02:13.50 | initself | blast_hardcheese: you mean you think my perl script is failing? |
| 02:14.05 | blast_hardcheese | initself: Yes |
| 02:14.13 | initself | it doesn't fail when i run it manually |
| 02:14.20 | initself | /tmp/output is blank |
| 02:14.32 | initself | also, i am using warnings |
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| 02:15.15 | initself | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2011-04-29 19:14 /tmp/output |
| 02:15.19 | initself | so that got written |
| 02:15.42 | initself | ah! |
| 02:15.47 | initself | i have a typo! wonderful! |
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| 02:15.58 | blast_hardcheese | hah |
| 02:16.07 | initself | blast_hardcheese++ # but you still did help me! |
| 02:16.14 | initself | so what is /var/log/cron for then? |
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| 02:16.48 | blast_hardcheese | Probably for... cron |
| 02:16.54 | blast_hardcheese | Cron logs when it runs stuff |
| 02:16.55 | initself | indeed! |
| 02:17.09 | initself | but not when it runs the individual job like...for instance...mine? |
| 02:17.25 | initself | /tmp/output is still blank |
| 02:17.57 | blast_hardcheese | Hmm. |
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| 02:18.57 | initself | blast_hardcheese: is 1>/tmp/output going to write STDOUT to the file? |
| 02:19.24 | blast_hardcheese | Yes |
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| 02:19.43 | blast_hardcheese | Now, |
| 02:20.05 | initself | shouldn't this work? |
| 02:20.06 | initself | ./var/www/mobilegates/yipit_json/scripts/yipit_json_to_db.pl |
| 02:20.08 | blast_hardcheese | if your script needs a TTY, you might have problems |
| 02:20.11 | initself | it doesnt |
| 02:20.12 | blast_hardcheese | ./ ? |
| 02:20.22 | initself | to execute it? |
| 02:20.24 | blast_hardcheese | ... |
| 02:20.27 | blast_hardcheese | Try / |
| 02:20.29 | blast_hardcheese | not ./ |
| 02:20.36 | initself | jeeez, sorry! |
| 02:20.42 | initself | ok, it runs |
| 02:20.47 | initself | hrm, im running out of ideas |
| 02:21.04 | initself | wouldn't the script show up in the output of ps -ef? |
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| 02:21.26 | initself | when running via cron? |
| 02:21.31 | blast_hardcheese | potentially |
| 02:21.36 | initself | indeed. |
| 02:21.51 | initself | 19 19 * * * /var/www/mobilegates/yipit_json/scripts/yipit_json_to_db.pl /etc/cron.daily 1>/tmp/output |
| 02:21.57 | initself | looks good to me |
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| 02:22.18 | blast_hardcheese | 20 19 * * * echo "Test" > /tmp/output |
| 02:22.24 | initself | indeed |
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| 02:22.50 | initself | t minus 40 seconds |
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| 02:23.18 | initself | ok, that worked! |
| 02:23.25 | blast_hardcheese | sweet. |
| 02:23.26 | initself | so that means.....the script is borked somehow? |
| 02:23.29 | blast_hardcheese | Yes. |
| 02:23.37 | blast_hardcheese | iirc perl -c checks syntax |
| 02:23.38 | initself | but it runs when i run it! |
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| 02:23.50 | initself | let me print like you did, but from the script |
| 02:23.57 | blast_hardcheese | kk. |
| 02:23.59 | blast_hardcheese | Also, |
| 02:24.05 | blast_hardcheese | try 2>/tmp/errorlog |
| 02:24.20 | initself | i can append that after the line in the cron? |
| 02:24.28 | blast_hardcheese | Yes |
| 02:25.14 | initself | t minus 20 seconds IMPENDING CRON |
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| 02:26.10 | initself | hooray! |
| 02:26.16 | initself | blast_hardcheese++ # my hero! |
| 02:26.17 | initself | Can't locate MobileGates/Yipit.pm |
| 02:26.20 | blast_hardcheese | \o/ |
| 02:26.31 | blast_hardcheese | In other news, I just found 5000JPY! |
| 02:26.34 | initself | moral of this story: write your errors to a log! |
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| 02:26.41 | initself | that's a lot of YEN! |
| 02:26.49 | blast_hardcheese | initself: 2> ftw. |
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| 02:28.30 | initself | waiting for cron is like waiting for eternity |
| 02:28.47 | initself | waiting for Gocron |
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| 02:30.19 | blast_hardcheese | Betcha it's possible to force cron to execute lines in a given crontab |
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| 02:31.51 | blast_hardcheese | Huh. Maybe not. |
| 02:32.24 | casts | i betcha it /is/ possible |
| 02:32.52 | blast_hardcheese | casts: Possibly not supported on the bsd box I'm on right now, but possibly quite supported in Linux |
| 02:33.04 | blast_hardcheese | but yeah, that's the first thing I'd add if I was writing cron |
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| 02:33.26 | blast_hardcheese | or I'd waste so many cumulative hours waiting for test crons to run |
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| 02:34.11 | blast_hardcheese | s/cumulative hours/hours cumulatively/ |
| 02:34.38 | Azrael_- | is the time-definition or the command the problem? |
| 02:34.47 | casts | why don't you just tweak the line to run in a minutes time |
| 02:35.27 | blast_hardcheese | casts: Seconds matter too |
| 02:35.48 | casts | so do milliseconds |
| 02:35.55 | initself | ya, seconds man |
| 02:36.01 | blast_hardcheese | Not as much, no. |
| 02:36.14 | initself | need my cron seconds! gotta have my bowl, gotta have my cereal |
| 02:36.24 | simonlnu | well, tough luck for you, cron doesn't *do* seconds |
| 02:36.33 | blast_hardcheese | Debugging a faulty crontab could all be done in under a minute, even if you had to modify it 10-20+ times. Running crontabs on the minute would ensure that at minimum, that would take 10 minutes. |
| 02:36.46 | initself | blast_hardcheese: it's running, officially |
| 02:36.47 | casts | without the progression of milliseconds your seconds do not change, thus, they are of fundamental importortance. for you see..time is probably a continious spectrum |
| 02:37.04 | initself | "probably" |
| 02:37.13 | initself | an infinitely continous spectrum |
| 02:37.13 | blast_hardcheese | simonlnu: I don't care about seconds, I just want the ability to kick off a line in the crontab manually |
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| 02:37.17 | blast_hardcheese | for testing purposes |
| 02:37.46 | simonlnu | time is illusory |
| 02:38.07 | blast_hardcheese | lunchtime... wait, that's not right. |
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| 02:40.56 | casts | you just said seconds matter, but then you said you don't care about seconds. i'm getting mixed messages here |
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| 02:42.46 | cfy | hi all,my notebook randomly halts.i'm using debian stable and cpufrequtils |
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| 02:44.13 | cfy | when the computer halts suddenly,i may have software 100% cpu running |
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| 02:46.56 | cfy | the cpu temperature is normal |
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| 02:49.28 | master^1 | https://www.pastee.org/nzheb |
| 02:49.34 | master^1 | any one can help or had this error before? |
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| 02:54.01 | blast_hardcheese | master^1: which rtorrent, make sure that is on your path |
| 02:54.08 | blast_hardcheese | (the path specified in your scripts |
| 02:54.13 | blast_hardcheese | s/s/)/ |
| 02:54.40 | master^1 | i try changing paths and stuff |
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| 02:54.58 | master^1 | my source installs to /usr/local/bin |
| 02:55.07 | master^1 | i cp into usr/bin and even /bin |
| 02:55.13 | blast_hardcheese | ugh, don't do that |
| 02:55.17 | blast_hardcheese | bad bad bad. |
| 02:55.43 | master^1 | i can del the rtorrent folder from the other folders |
| 02:55.47 | master^1 | but then i go bk to error 1 |
| 02:56.28 | blast_hardcheese | Remove rtorrent from places it shouldn't be |
| 02:56.31 | blast_hardcheese | then which rtorrent |
| 02:56.44 | blast_hardcheese | (Also, do you need something specifically not available in the debian-packaged version?) |
| 02:57.14 | master^1 | return /usr/local/bin/rtorrent |
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| 02:57.29 | master^1 | not rly, by default i always use the source |
| 02:57.42 | master^1 | i dont know what version the repos would install |
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| 02:58.52 | master^1 | i install libtorrent-0.12.6 |
| 02:58.58 | master^1 | and rtorrent-0.8.6 |
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| 03:03.38 | master^1 | blast_hardcheese any ideas? |
| 03:03.43 | master^1 | i am running deb6 btw |
| 03:03.51 | cfy | how can i disable cpufreq in debian stable?can purge cpufrequtils work? |
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| 03:04.16 | cfy | thanks,i think cpufreq may cause my computer halts suddenly |
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| 03:23.16 | blast_hardcheese | How does one force a machine to reboot, even when everything seems to be failing? |
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| 03:23.46 | Azrael_- | there is a reboot-option which omits the shutdown-scripts |
| 03:24.04 | simonlnu | alt-sysreq-s; then u then b |
| 03:24.10 | cfy | my computer just halts suddenly again.syslog says nothing. |
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| 03:24.39 | casts | blast_hardcheese: hah. one moment i notice you're playing with cron, the next time you've hard frozen a machine? |
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| 03:25.03 | blast_hardcheese | casts: Heh, I wasn't playing with cron |
| 03:25.05 | blast_hardcheese | Thanks though. |
| 03:25.07 | simonlnu | might want e and i before the s |
| 03:25.11 | elkclone | into the startup record |
| 03:25.20 | blast_hardcheese | Here's the trace: http://paste.debian.net/115536/ |
| 03:25.26 | casts | this seems to be crash debian day |
| 03:26.08 | cfy | i think the problem may happen in the cpu |
| 03:26.45 | project2501b | shit, i am bored |
| 03:27.00 | cfy | every time it halts suddenly,a software may use 100% one cpu |
| 03:27.09 | blast_hardcheese | All I was doing was tar -C /.../source/ -cf - . | tar -C /.../target -xvf - |
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| 03:27.37 | simonlnu | cfy: do you have sensors and sensord set up? might give a clue. |
| 03:27.52 | cfy | simonlnu: do you mean temperature? |
| 03:28.26 | simonlnu | temp, usage, whatever. gotta look at everything |
| 03:28.40 | cfy | pasted "temperature" at http://paste2.org/get/1391509 |
| 03:28.57 | cfy | simonlnu: the temmperature seems right |
| 03:29.28 | blast_hardcheese | Ugh. I guess I have to actually go in and manually reset this box. |
| 03:29.30 | simonlnu | that seems rather hot to me |
| 03:29.39 | cheng | how to install .emerald theme? |
| 03:30.05 | cfy | simonlnu: so the temperature is too hot? |
| 03:30.39 | simonlnu | i'd say so, but your machine might be specced for it. check your manual |
| 03:31.34 | cfy | simonlnu: oh.can this cause computer halts suddently? |
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| 03:32.07 | simonlnu | yes |
| 03:32.16 | simonlnu | bad PSU can too |
| 03:32.43 | simonlnu | (but that's probably not the case here) |
| 03:32.55 | cfy | simonlnu: sorry,but what is the PSU stand for? |
| 03:33.18 | simonlnu | power supply unit |
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| 03:33.53 | cfy | simonlnu: what's your computer's temperature. |
| 03:34.22 | simonlnu | much lower than that |
| 03:34.37 | cfy | simonlnu: about 50 degree? |
| 03:35.26 | bronaugh | in real units? |
| 03:35.41 | cfy | simonlnu: i think i may buy a notebook external fan:) |
| 03:35.41 | simonlnu | sys temp 45C cpu temp 62C |
| 03:35.50 | cfy | oh. |
| 03:36.15 | simonlnu | cpu runs around 55-58 usually |
| 03:36.43 | cfy | simonlnu: got it |
| 03:36.53 | simonlnu | well, this one anyway ;) |
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| 03:37.15 | simonlnu | another one: temperature : 35 C |
| 03:38.31 | cfy | thanks :) |
| 03:39.29 | simonlnu | ^^ is an older powerpc box though ;) |
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| 03:40.41 | bronaugh | CPU Temperature: +29.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +125.0°C) |
| 03:40.54 | cfy | mine is thinkpad x200 |
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| 03:42.07 | simonlnu | first one was irongate mobo, 2nd the ppc |
| 03:44.35 | blast_hardcheese | Does anyone have any ideas regarding my kernel panic? |
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| 03:48.31 | simonlnu | blast_hardcheese: a kernel thread hung doing a task |
| 03:48.49 | simonlnu | actually several |
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| 03:49.22 | simonlnu | looks like it was trying to flush things out of the journal to disk |
| 03:50.37 | cfy | simonlnu: i use cpufrequ to restrict the cpufreq to the lowest.then the temperature fall below 60 :) |
| 03:50.50 | simonlnu | that's cool |
| 03:50.55 | simonlnu | pardon the pun |
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| 03:59.53 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there a way to copy a folder with lots of links to other files, but have the copied folder replace the links with the actual files being pointed to? |
| 04:00.13 | blast_hardcheese | simonlnu: Is there any way to recover from this? |
| 04:00.15 | elkclone | that was refreshing. |
| 04:00.42 | ectospasm | LinuxGuy2009: cp -L |
| 04:01.02 | LinuxGuy2009 | ectospasm: thank you |
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| 04:03.43 | simonlnu | blast_hardcheese: reboot the thing (as mentioned, with magic sysreq)? |
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| 04:05.22 | simonlnu | unless you're remote... |
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| 04:10.13 | stew | aloha |
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| 04:11.05 | simonlnu | hello stew |
| 04:11.10 | simonlnu | ltns |
| 04:11.28 | stew | indeed :) |
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| 04:12.27 | simonlnu | how you been? |
| 04:13.35 | stew | well, I've moved from NYC to KY, which is a large part of my absence. the move is keeping me very busy. the bourbon is much cheaper, and the internet is much faster |
| 04:14.40 | simonlnu | oh whoah |
| 04:14.45 | simonlnu | i see |
| 04:14.49 | stew | simonlnu: and you are no longer a rvn but a lnu? |
| 04:15.07 | simonlnu | yup |
| 04:15.26 | blast_hardcheese | simonlnu: I was looking for something more... remote, since otherwise I have to drive for about an hour to the office just to reboot this one machine. |
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| 04:15.57 | simonlnu | well, those kernel threads might stay hung.. |
| 04:16.10 | blast_hardcheese | However, in the interim, the situation has gotten quite a bit worse |
| 04:16.19 | blast_hardcheese | so I have no alternative now. |
| 04:16.39 | blast_hardcheese | simonlnu: What do you think could have caused this? |
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| 04:17.28 | simonlnu | sector corruption, neutrino, higgs boson hit you in the face |
| 04:17.38 | blast_hardcheese | crap. |
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| 04:17.57 | simonlnu | might have more info in kern.log |
| 04:18.01 | blast_hardcheese | I should have had my detector field set up right in front of my face, that would have been quite cool. |
| 04:18.08 | simonlnu | hehe |
| 04:18.16 | blast_hardcheese | Ah well. |
| 04:18.22 | blast_hardcheese | I'll check out kern.log before I pull the plug. |
| 04:18.24 | simonlnu | that would have helped a bit |
| 04:18.27 | blast_hardcheese | Thanks for the insight |
| 04:18.35 | simonlnu | afk. good luck |
| 04:18.37 | stew | if you find actual verifiable info about a higgs boson in kern.log, please notify a local particle physicist |
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| 04:31.25 | locojay | hi i would like to map esc to jj once in set -o vi mode . any idea? |
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| 04:33.27 | stew | locojay: you are talking about bash? |
| 04:33.41 | locojay | yes |
| 04:33.51 | stew | locojay: you'd probably have better luck in #bash |
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| 04:33.58 | locojay | thnks |
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| 04:38.35 | bronaugh | oh, would you look at htat. |
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| 04:38.44 | bronaugh | I just made kernel nfsd shit its pants. |
| 04:38.50 | bronaugh | now I have a test case. |
| 04:39.05 | bronaugh | hm; or not. |
| 04:39.47 | bronaugh | well; if it stays alive... I'll be happy :) |
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| 04:45.34 | Viking667 | really quick question about removing a set of packages at once - I put package names into a file with lines like "package purge", and now I'm trying to get dpkg to remove all of those package names. What command should I be telling dpkg to use? the command I tried: cat removethesefiles | dpkg --set-selections |
| 04:47.28 | stew | Viking667: *all* of them are purge? |
| 04:47.53 | Viking667 | yup... basically I was trying to remove all theopenoffice.org debs from my system. |
| 04:48.05 | vinjacob | stew: howdy? |
| 04:48.19 | Viking667 | so I had (for example) openoffice.org purge; openoffice.org-writer purge and so on |
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| 04:48.36 | bronaugh | yo Viking667 |
| 04:48.39 | Viking667 | the filenames are all on their own lines. |
| 04:48.44 | Viking667 | Hey there, Bronaugh. How's things? |
| 04:48.46 | stew | Viking667: actually, what you are doing should work if you follow it with "apt-get dselect-upgrade" |
| 04:48.50 | Viking667 | Chch is still shakey |
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| 04:48.54 | bronaugh | better after about 4pm. |
| 04:48.55 | chaim | hi |
| 04:48.57 | Viking667 | ahh, right. Thank you. |
| 04:49.04 | chaim | gnome freeze short time after login |
| 04:49.12 | chaim | only in one user |
| 04:49.17 | chaim | anyway to debug? |
| 04:49.20 | cheng | how to install globalmenu ? |
| 04:49.25 | bronaugh | it seems that a memory module in one of our machines had been giving trouble all week. I finally figured it out today. |
| 04:49.40 | Viking667 | I'm trying that now... |
| 04:49.50 | Viking667 | I might have to upgrade to natty piecemeal. Sigh... |
| 04:49.58 | stew | Viking667: natty? |
| 04:50.15 | Viking667 | mmmm. I'm on ubuntu |
| 04:50.17 | stew | Viking667: oh, you are in the wrong channel, you want #ubuntu, not #debi0an |
| 04:50.21 | stew | #debian* |
| 04:50.51 | Viking667 | I asked a debian question because it's dpkg I'm dealingwith |
| 04:51.12 | vinjacob | get going |
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| 04:52.04 | stew | Viking667: no, you asked a ubuntu question. sorry |
| 04:52.41 | stew | Viking667: i didn't see a dpkg question, but anyway, if you are asking about dpkg in ubuntu, you should be asking in #ubuntu not here |
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| 04:53.24 | Viking667 | I did ask. Didn't get any replies. |
| 04:53.43 | vinjacob | talk to customer service |
| 04:53.53 | stew | Viking667: that sucks. you might try a ubuntu mailing list, or webforum such as ask.ubuntu.com, sorry, we can't help you here |
| 04:54.02 | Viking667 | ... and you answered my dpkg question quite adequately. |
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| 04:54.48 | Viking667 | and dpkg runs pretty much the same way under Ubuntu as it does on vanilla debian |
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| 05:00.32 | stew | Viking667: well, if you are looking to us for advice for upgrading to natty, you are quite lost. please ask any subsequent questions elsewhere |
| 05:00.58 | stew | if upgrading to natty requires the things you are doing, i'd both be suprised and quite sorry |
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| 05:02.07 | Viking667 | heh. Well, I got a whole lot of packages upgraded, and some removed. Here goes the rest. Thanks for your comments. |
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| 05:03.46 | Viking667 | bows... see ya, bronaugh |
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| 05:10.01 | satish | hi i am trying to install synaptic but it says unresolved dependencies. i have updated my aptitude tool using apt-get update but it still does not work please help |
| 05:10.48 | stew | satish: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 05:12.02 | satish | stew what does that command do.. i am a newbie |
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| 05:18.17 | satish | i have to install the arm-linux gcc toolchain please help me out regarding this |
| 05:19.03 | boudiccas | what is xulrunner -stub please, as it seems to be running a long time according to TOP |
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| 05:21.26 | satish | can anybody tell me how to install arm-linux-gcc toolkit? |
| 05:24.34 | rww | !repeat |
| 05:24.34 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 05:27.00 | boudiccas | satish, what /exactly/ are you trying to install? first it was synaptic, then arm-linux-gcc toolchain, and then arm-linux-gcc toolkit? |
| 05:28.00 | satish | i installed synaptic using dpkg, now i need the arm-linux-gcc toolchain to run a code... |
| 05:28.38 | satish | boudiccas i installed synaptic using dpkg, now i need the arm-linux-gcc toolchain to run a code.. |
| 05:29.19 | boudiccas | satish, so the arm-linux-gcc toolkit is a red herring then? |
| 05:29.34 | satish | yes!!! |
| 05:30.42 | satish | boudiccas, i had installed synaptic only for a easier installation of the toolkit |
| 05:31.44 | sailerboy | sup |
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| 05:32.11 | sailerboy | what's the equivilant for debian that the bsd style rc init scripts have in the rc.conf DAEMONS array? |
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| 05:35.26 | nevyn | sailerboy: sysv init |
| 05:36.50 | sailerboy | nevyn, is there a really easy file i can just specify all the daemons i want run like in rc.conf? |
| 05:37.35 | nevyn | sailerboy: debian uses sysv init not BSD init. |
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| 05:38.31 | sailerboy | ok |
| 05:38.32 | sailerboy | thanks |
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| 05:40.19 | nevyn | sailerboy: there are docs.. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch03.en.html |
| 05:40.33 | sailerboy | i figured it out |
| 05:40.46 | sailerboy | thanks |
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| 05:43.37 | satish | how to install arm-linux-gcc toolchain/ |
| 05:44.00 | cantido | satish: if its not in debian its in emdebian |
| 05:44.10 | cantido | satish: they have toolchains for arm, m68k etc |
| 05:44.12 | boudiccas | satish, please remember to use your P's and Q' |
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| 05:44.58 | satish | sure boudiccas |
| 05:45.34 | satish | cantido so u mean to say i have to search for the toolchain in emdebian |
| 05:45.51 | cantido | satish: if its not in debian proper add the emdebian sources.. |
| 05:46.18 | satish | cantido, please tell me in a little more detail i am new to debian |
| 05:46.20 | cantido | deb http://emdebian.org/debian sid main -- I have that for SH4 |
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| 05:46.47 | Nathan_ | ok |
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| 05:48.55 | satish | cantido, i am getting the following error: W: GPG error: http://emdebian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B5B7720097BB3B58 |
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| 05:49.25 | cantido | satish: change sid to stable if you are on stable.. |
| 05:49.36 | cantido | satish: you need to install the emdebian key |
| 05:50.14 | satish | cantido; ok i will change to stable i am using squeeze version. but how do i install the emdebian key? |
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| 05:51.05 | kaiyin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.06 | cantido | emdebian-archive-keyring -- install that |
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| 05:53.43 | satish | cantido, i installed the keyring and added the sorce too. now what to do for the gcc toolkit to be installed.. please guide me.. |
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| 05:58.05 | babilen | kaiyin: Please don't use a regex to validate/search for email addresses, you *will* get it wrong |
| 05:58.21 | bubo | cries |
| 05:58.32 | bubo | why id ginstall-info never working? |
| 05:58.45 | babilen | bubo: What? |
| 05:58.47 | bubo | why has it be so complicated to install a text file? |
| 05:58.49 | satish | cantido: i installed the keyring and added the sorce too. now what to do for the gcc toolkit to be installed.. please guide me.. |
| 05:59.30 | kaiyin | babilen, okay. |
| 06:00.04 | babilen | kaiyin: If you really *need* a regex, use https://github.com/iamcal/rfc822/blob/master/full_regexp.txt |
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| 06:00.28 | babilen | kaiyin: And yes, that is not a joke |
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| 06:03.12 | kaiyin | babilen, i see. thanks. :- ) |
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| 06:03.45 | project2501b | !joke |
| 06:03.45 | dpkg | Stop abusing the bot already. |
| 06:03.53 | project2501b | !yourmom |
| 06:04.02 | babilen | !boy abuse |
| 06:04.02 | bubo | nevermind, it worked out after all... |
| 06:04.02 | dpkg | RAPE! RAPE!! Don't ever come near me again! |
| 06:04.06 | babilen | ugh ... |
| 06:04.14 | project2501b | dpkg --rape |
| 06:04.15 | dpkg | project2501b: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 06:04.31 | babilen | heh |
| 06:04.35 | project2501b | :D |
| 06:04.41 | project2501b | i don't want to go to work :( |
| 06:05.06 | project2501b | can i take a month off, please, just to read sci-fi? |
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| 06:13.36 | bp0 | 2.30 |
| 06:13.41 | bp0 | thanks, bro. |
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| 06:41.16 | satish | how to install arm linux gcc on debian |
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| 06:54.46 | ubd | hello, (im a noob), i want to install openbox, so i did "aptitude install openbox", now should i install xorg or xserver-xorg? |
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| 06:56.39 | timo | ubd: xorg |
| 06:56.55 | ubd | thank you timo |
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| 06:57.09 | timo | xorg is a meta-package that depends on all the relevant packages |
| 06:57.13 | timo | !tell ubd about install x |
| 06:57.20 | ubd | btw, is there a difference between apt-get intall, and aptitude install? |
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| 06:58.01 | streuner | ubd: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 06:58.03 | x3464 | how does one go about finding a sponsor to get the following package into debian. http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=mangler |
| 06:58.48 | streuner | just ask a DD? :-) |
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| 07:00.46 | ubd | i got one more question, i was actually using freebsd, but then becuz of hardware problems (usb ethernet device) i switched to debian, when i downloading it ii realized theres a bsd version of debian, if i install it, will i face the same harware problem? |
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| 07:02.00 | x3464 | steuner: where does one find a DD? |
| 07:02.27 | casts | ubd: quite likely, given its the same kernel |
| 07:03.19 | x3464 | **streuner: where does one find a DD? |
| 07:03.38 | streuner | x3464: a good question :-) |
| 07:03.46 | x3464 | lol |
| 07:03.51 | BahrulHidayat | hallo |
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| 07:04.31 | streuner | x3464: /msg dpkg mentors |
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| 07:05.43 | streuner | x3464: #debian-mentors should have more experiences... |
| 07:06.17 | x3464 | streuner: thanks! |
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| 07:06.25 | streuner | x3464: basically you could ask some DD, but keep in mind its a new job for them then... |
| 07:06.40 | streuner | s/them/her/him/ |
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| 07:10.01 | x3464 | steuner: apparently #debian-mentors is invite only. :) |
| 07:10.23 | kaiyin | could anyone please recommend a biliography package? |
| 07:10.25 | satish | how to install arm-linux-gcc on debian/ |
| 07:10.52 | streuner | x3464: OFTC |
| 07:11.14 | streuner | x3464: irc.debian.org NOT irc.freenode.net |
| 07:11.24 | nevyn | kaiyin: bibtek? |
| 07:11.49 | kaiyin | nevyn, you mean bibtex? |
| 07:11.58 | nevyn | yeah. |
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| 07:12.25 | kaiyin | i need something that can retrieve items from pubmed. |
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| 07:12.37 | Captain_Haddock | biliography sounds like something you'd do when in a bad mood. |
| 07:13.54 | BahrulHidayat | ?????? |
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| 07:14.25 | Captain_Haddock | kaiyin: there are lots of hits when I search apt for bibliography and pubmed |
| 07:14.43 | Captain_Haddock | kbib, kbibtex, cl-pubmed etc. |
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| 07:15.10 | kaiyin | Captain_Haddock, what is command for doing that? |
| 07:15.46 | Captain_Haddock | kaiyin: there should be a search function in your package manager of choice.. from the cli, apt-cache search pubmed |
| 07:16.06 | kaiyin | okay |
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| 07:18.56 | icy946 | hi, I can't access the site backports.org. Is there any problem with the site? Its address is 194.8.57.6 (from my pc) |
| 07:19.27 | timo | icy946: you mean http://backports.debian.org/ ? |
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| 07:20.49 | icy946 | timo: oh, nice. That site works. I was using the site http://www.backports.org/debian |
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| 07:21.15 | timo | icy946: it moved domains last september |
| 07:21.44 | icy946 | timo: thank you very much. things are working fine now :) |
| 07:21.51 | timo | no problem |
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| 08:01.15 | csharpion | hey |
| 08:01.23 | csharpion | where the heck could i get debian 5 |
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| 08:05.26 | wrksx | hello there |
| 08:06.00 | wrksx | I often receive this kind of malicious http query: "GET //phpmyadmin/ HTTP/1.1" 404 268 "-" "Made by ZmEu @ WhiteHat Team - www.whitehat.ro" |
| 08:06.03 | csharpion | where the heck could i get debian 5 |
| 08:06.21 | bocaneri | csharpion, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 08:06.33 | wrksx | these query starts with a double slash, does that actually mean something ? |
| 08:06.46 | csharpion | thanks hun |
| 08:07.08 | bocaneri | "hun"? |
| 08:07.09 | csharpion | do i need all of the CD's to complete the installation |
| 08:07.17 | csharpion | or are dvd's 2-5 are for addons |
| 08:07.19 | bocaneri | Depends on what you want to install. |
| 08:07.32 | csharpion | i aim to learn it |
| 08:08.54 | wrksx | if you manage to get your internet connection working you'll be able to install everything you want from the web |
| 08:09.27 | csharpion | im very new to linux |
| 08:09.38 | csharpion | to be quite frank, i have no idea how to use it, nor can i program |
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| 08:10.30 | foetus | back again |
| 08:10.40 | timo | csharpion: why don't you install debian 6, which is the current stable release? |
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| 08:11.31 | Flaim | good morning.. |
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| 08:12.42 | Flaim | i have three identical debian VMs, w/ identical (save the IP address) network configs.. two work, the third does not |
| 08:13.04 | kaiyin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.13 | kaiyin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.32 | kaiyin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.58 | Flaim | would you rather it wrap? |
| 08:14.42 | Flaim | :set wrap and :set nowrap will change that |
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| 08:16.20 | tsdlxp | hi all can someone please explain to me what is difference between unstable and testing |
| 08:16.34 | nxr | how do i get a directory listing |
| 08:17.12 | kaiyin | Flaim, :set wrap doesn't work. |
| 08:17.38 | Agiofws | how can i find out on my system what evrsion of boost i have ? |
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| 08:17.52 | Agiofws | libboost-all-dev ? |
| 08:18.02 | nxr | how do I open explorer? |
| 08:19.00 | nkuttler | nxr: click on one of the "folder" icons on your "desktop" ? |
| 08:20.03 | kaiyin | Flaim, I think I've misunderstood what you said. |
| 08:20.18 | kaiyin | :set wrap then :set nowrap did the trick. |
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| 08:23.15 | kaiyin | Flaim, why does it work? |
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| 08:26.01 | joltcan | Agiofws: dpkg -l|grep <the relevant package> |
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| 08:26.57 | erAbuelo | buenos dias |
| 08:27.21 | Agiofws | ok |
| 08:27.23 | Agiofws | thank you |
| 08:28.57 | nxr | bueno |
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| 08:34.45 | foetus | question to /etc/fstab - should i set a fsck flag like '/dev/sdb1 /mnt/usbdrive auto noauto 0 2' (2) for removable drives, to make sure, they are frequently checked ? |
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| 08:38.32 | simonlnu | foetus: no, you don't want to do that. it's not being auto-mounted anyway. you don't necessarily want to do any old thing either. 0 0 is good. |
| 08:39.09 | foetus | simonlnu: indeed. |
| 08:39.51 | foetus | ok. |
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| 08:43.36 | econnell | who do i talk to about getting a DD/DM person to deal with a package? |
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| 08:43.47 | econnell | a *new* package |
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| 08:45.10 | simonlnu | !rfp |
| 08:45.10 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. |
| 08:45.15 | simonlnu | econnell: ^^^ |
| 08:45.53 | econnell | ok... what if you've already done that and no one cares? |
| 08:46.12 | econnell | well... no DD/DM cares anyway... but thousands of users do |
| 08:46.31 | thewanderer1 | how do I fill in PDF forms? |
| 08:46.38 | thewanderer1 | (Okular doesn't seem to handle this) |
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| 08:48.14 | econnell | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609291 |
| 08:48.18 | kaiyin | how do i check whether the swap partition is actively in use? |
| 08:48.35 | Flaim- | free |
| 08:49.45 | simonlnu | or swapon -s |
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| 08:50.09 | econnell | it's been sitting there since january and the person that uploaded can't find anyone to complete it... why not? |
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| 08:51.23 | simonlnu | why would we know that? |
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| 08:52.24 | econnell | i don't know.. this package has been in gentoo proper and arch (aur) for a while now.... why can't anyone from debian be bothered to deal with it? |
| 08:52.36 | simonlnu | why would we know that? |
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| 08:53.08 | econnell | i don't know,..... who *would* know? |
| 08:53.33 | econnell | what black magic does it take to get a new package into debian? |
| 08:53.36 | simonlnu | ask the people involved why |
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| 08:53.57 | econnell | i would love to ask the people involved... who are they? |
| 08:54.03 | thewanderer1 | econnell: why don't you take over and package that? |
| 08:54.32 | econnell | thewanderer1: how would i take over the package? i'm the developer |
| 08:55.13 | simonlnu | econnell: plenty of upstream devs also package it in debian |
| 08:56.17 | econnell | i was packaging debs... i quit with the last release... my software should be part of debian free.... i'm trying to figure out why it's not |
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| 08:57.39 | econnell | in short, "build your own packages" does not solve my problem... |
| 08:58.27 | simonlnu | then bug the dd who was. if not, then get someone else. |
| 08:58.52 | simonlnu | email debian-devel - get their attention |
| 08:58.54 | econnell | my question is "who do i talk to actually get something done and get this software into debian?" |
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| 09:00.05 | simonlnu | i just told you |
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| 09:00.49 | xion56 | can you help me please? I have a Huawei E620 that does not work with Debian Lenny 5.0.4 properly. It mounts as a mass media, but it is a USB modem that even some parts of the system acknowledge. How do I get the whole system to understand I have a Huawei USB Modem, and get it to work with Debian Lenny 5.0.4? |
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| 09:01.01 | econnell | so i should just refer debian based users here when they ask how to compile it? |
| 09:01.08 | kaiyin | Flaim-, what if it says Swap: 0 0 0 |
| 09:01.19 | Flaim- | then no swap is in use |
| 09:01.30 | armani_ | i get an extraction failed when i try to sh an ATI .run file for my squeeze amd64 video card drivers....can any one help me out? |
| 09:01.38 | Flaim- | tho most likely, no swap is even activated |
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| 09:01.56 | Flaim- | try swapon -s |
| 09:02.11 | homie | armani_: try another shell than bash |
| 09:02.29 | Parsifal | xion56: Is the package usb-modeswitch installed? |
| 09:02.31 | armani_ | homie, ok will give that try now...thanks |
| 09:02.34 | xion56 | Parsifal: no. |
| 09:02.36 | fenugreek | armani_: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 09:02.42 | foetus | ok. i'd like to mount my usbdrive by UUID - must the UUID be set with quotes (like UUID='xxxxx-xxxxxxxxx') in /etc/fstab? |
| 09:03.14 | Parsifal | xion56: Try installing that (if it's in lenny), it switches the device to modem mode, though it's odd that some parts of the system already see that |
| 09:03.16 | nxr | make a udev rule |
| 09:03.17 | xion56 | Parsifal: I will try to install it when I get home. One helper WWW page said that usb-modeswitch isn't included in Lenny 5.0.4 but I am not sure. |
| 09:03.21 | homie | armani_: if it's not a shell issue it could be you lack the linux source and the headers or so....and if even that is not the case you'r bin.sh package is maybe broken or the download was not complete....try another |
| 09:03.41 | Parsifal | xion56: I'm not sure either, I know it's in squeeze though, might be in lenny-backports |
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| 09:04.56 | armani_ | homie, hmm...seems like a messy fix? |
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| 09:05.43 | kaiyin | Please have a look at this: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/5906/ |
| 09:05.50 | xion56 | Parsifal: I don't have the Internet working with that Debian Lenny yet. So I have to use the DVD-ROM. |
| 09:05.53 | kaiyin | is there any problem with the swap partition? |
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| 09:09.05 | fenugreek | kaiyin: one might think there should be a total greater than 0 |
| 09:09.16 | simonlnu | kaiyin: what's swpaon -s say? seems ok |
| 09:09.23 | simonlnu | just not used |
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| 09:09.57 | fenugreek | kaiyin: how many blocks does fdisk -l say your swap partition is? |
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| 09:10.33 | Parsifal | xion56: Ah, then as far as I know there isn't a way to get it working. I had a similar issue with a Huawei K3765, and it wouldn't work without usb-modeswitch. Doesn't look like it's in lenny, you may need to get it from http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/, take it home on a USB stick or something and build it yourself. |
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| 09:11.17 | allu21 | hum interesting |
| 09:11.32 | allu21 | ah tough i was on 2 same nic at once :) but read wrong |
| 09:11.54 | armani_ | thanks fenugreek, it worked after installing those packages |
| 09:11.55 | allu21 | does xmonad have any known problems on debian? |
| 09:12.33 | armani_ | however, my programs crash whenver i try to open them up, like opera, chrome in squeeze, using xfce amd64... |
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| 09:13.12 | cusco_ | xion56, Parsifal: what I did, I used usb-modeswitch from squeeze when I used lenny |
| 09:13.21 | cusco_ | it worked out ok |
| 09:15.21 | fenugreek | armani_: =) |
| 09:16.01 | kaiyin | simonlnu, it say nothing. |
| 09:16.40 | kaiyin | fenugreek, 4875696 blocks |
| 09:17.49 | fenugreek | kaiyin: your total should be quite close to that, AFAIK |
| 09:18.22 | Flaim- | hm, so my mysqld wasn't starting, and I checked out some logs, and found that /var/run/mysqld had been chowned to sshd.. |
| 09:18.52 | kaiyin | fenugreek, but htop says, Swap 0/0MB |
| 09:19.20 | milosn | hey guys, where can i find docs on how to build .deb from .dsc? |
| 09:20.11 | fenugreek | kaiyin: yeah 0 doesn't sound like you have any setup |
| 09:21.06 | simonlnu | kaiyin: then it isn't active |
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| 09:21.20 | simonlnu | misread the free output |
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| 09:21.58 | kaiyin | simonlnu, then how can i activate it? |
| 09:22.07 | fenugreek | milosn: first result for deb + dsc: http://laurentparenteau.com/blog/2010/08/building-sourcebinary-deb/ |
| 09:22.13 | milosn | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=511253 <-- from there i got storm ORM .dsc file |
| 09:22.19 | milosn | i want to build it! |
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| 09:22.32 | simonlnu | swapon -a # if in /etc/fstab |
| 09:23.04 | dannyLopez68 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:23.40 | foetus | is using LABEL mount for his backup-hd now..works like charme |
| 09:23.48 | fenugreek | dannyLopez68: don't think so, not on freenode, anyways |
| 09:23.59 | fenugreek | dannyLopez68: there's #debian-es, however |
| 09:24.34 | dannyLopez68 | and french? |
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| 09:24.40 | fenugreek | probably |
| 09:24.49 | fenugreek | yes, #debianfr |
| 09:24.54 | fenugreek | for some reason the french do not like hyphens |
| 09:25.00 | fenugreek | dannyLopez68: /msg alis list *debian*fr |
| 09:25.36 | foetus | for getting UUID, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid, works also nice. |
| 09:26.02 | fenugreek | I thought you were going to use a label |
| 09:26.11 | foetus | or tune2fs -l /dev/drive | grep -i uuid. |
| 09:26.39 | foetus | (for ext filesystems) |
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| 09:27.18 | foetus | ok. |
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| 09:27.36 | dannyLopez68 | fenugreek: arigato |
| 09:29.11 | cahoot | blkid? |
| 09:29.33 | fenugreek | =) |
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| 09:30.25 | badzo | hello |
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| 09:30.48 | fenugreek | hi |
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| 09:31.53 | badzo | Somehow, I still have 2.6.32-5-686 kernel on my Debian sid |
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| 09:32.15 | badzo | Do I have to do anything else after installing linux-image-2.6.38-2-686 package? |
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| 09:33.27 | fenugreek | reboot? |
| 09:34.40 | badzo | okay |
| 09:35.04 | badzo | i thought, like, updating grub or sth but i can see that was already made. |
| 09:35.05 | badzo | bye |
| 09:35.06 | badzo | ;) |
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| 09:38.18 | miha | hi. i manually installed some program (make; make install). How do i mark it as installed in aptitude? |
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| 09:39.22 | timo | miha: you'd have to build a deb package from the source and install that |
| 09:39.23 | cahoot | miha: you could put it on hold |
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| 09:39.48 | cahoot | (maybe) |
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| 09:41.31 | miha | cahoot: if i put this program (say program1) on hold, will i be able to install program2 that depends on program1 in aptitude? |
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| 09:41.46 | cahoot | no idea |
| 09:42.04 | miha | timo: i will probably do that, i just wanted to make sure that there is no other option. |
| 09:42.31 | miha | cahoot: tnx for suggestion, i will look into it. maybe hold will do what i want... |
| 09:43.04 | cahoot | might hold only works for packages apt sees as installed |
| 09:44.47 | miha | cahoot: a workaround for me would be to installl program1 (which i already have the newest version that i compiled) in aptitude and then manually delete the installed files |
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| 09:45.23 | miha | cahoot: that way program1 would be marked in aptitude as installed and i could put it on hold |
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| 09:45.57 | timo | miha: I wouldn't mess with the package system in such a way. perhaps the software 'checkinstall' is what you need |
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| 09:47.07 | timo | miha: or if your aim is to install a newer version of a package than is in the package system, you could look into backports.debian.org |
| 09:48.11 | miha | timo: i think you are right about messing with package system. |
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| 09:49.02 | miha | timo: checkinstall sounds good |
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| 09:49.30 | miha | timo: i haven't heard of backports.debian.org so i will check that too. |
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| 09:58.43 | paijo | hello |
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| 09:58.56 | fenugreek | paijo: hi |
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| 10:02.18 | paijo | fenugreek: i have debian installed system, can we switch them to debian/kfreebsd ? |
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| 10:03.55 | casts | yes. via reinstalling. |
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| 10:05.14 | erore | what is the difference between debian-update-6.0.1a-i386-CD-1.iso and debian-6.0.1a-i386-CD-1.iso at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1a/i386/iso-cd/? |
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| 10:06.36 | paijo | erore: i think that was a same system, but include updated packages :d |
| 10:06.53 | foetus | the checksum, probably..cd1 is first install media, update-cd1 is first update media. |
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| 10:08.11 | jelly-home | erore: -update only contains updated packages, to be used to update an offline installation |
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| 10:08.38 | erore | so to install fresh system I use debian-6.0.1a-i386-CD-1.iso? |
| 10:08.47 | jelly-home | erore: or the netinst, yes. |
| 10:08.51 | milosn | use business card iso |
| 10:09.01 | milosn | and download system of the internet |
| 10:09.02 | milosn | :) |
| 10:09.12 | jelly-home | don't use businesscard if you don't have to. |
| 10:09.25 | nevyn | use netinst |
| 10:10.06 | milosn | why is business card iso not recommended? |
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| 10:14.20 | terseint | Trying to apt-get phppgadmin and want to run it on a different webserver, but when I try to "apt-get install phppgadmin" it tells that it will even download apache. I don't want to download apache. How can I exlude it? |
| 10:14.24 | jelly-home | milosn: if you don't get the network working, you can't install anything off it, whereas with netinst you get the base system and can add other bits (say, firmware to get your network card working) |
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| 10:15.47 | Parsifal | terseint: Does your web server package provide the httpd virtual package? |
| 10:16.19 | terseint | Parsifal: web server is cherokee |
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| 10:16.27 | empiric | guys i am runnng cvs on gforge i want to convert my cvs to debian 6 |
| 10:16.30 | empiric | any idea how i do it |
| 10:17.23 | terseint | Parsifal: I guess not, because I have to do /etc/init.d/cherokee start |
| 10:17.36 | terseint | But so is the case with apache2 too right? |
| 10:17.46 | Parsifal | terseint: Looks like it does provide httpd. Do you have the package php5-cgi installed? |
| 10:17.59 | Parsifal | Just trying to figure out which of phppgadmin's dependencies is pulling in apache |
| 10:18.47 | terseint | No i just installed. just a min |
| 10:18.58 | terseint | It is downloading |
| 10:19.38 | Parsifal | phppgadmin depends on libapache2-mod-php5 | php5-cgi, so if you didn't have php5-cgi installed it would be automatically installing libapache2-mod-php5, which would pull in apache as well |
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| 10:21.07 | vokoda | hi, I just removed ipython via apt-get, in favour of the dev version which I've just installed. however bash still seems to be searching for ipython in the old location even though the location of the new ipython is in my $PATH |
| 10:21.29 | vokoda | $PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
| 10:21.41 | vokoda | ipython is in /usr/local/bin |
| 10:21.54 | jelly-home | vokoda: hash -r |
| 10:21.55 | vokoda | but when I type ipython at the shell I get: -bash: /usr/bin/ipython: No such file or directory |
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| 10:22.09 | vokoda | jelly-home: worked :) |
| 10:22.14 | vokoda | jelly-home: what does that do? |
| 10:22.43 | agumonkey | path cache reset ? |
| 10:23.03 | jelly-home | rereads all dir. entries from all the directories in the PATH and upd... what he said |
| 10:23.03 | vokoda | ok, thanks. I'm looking at the man page now |
| 10:23.04 | terseint | Parsifal: Yes, you are right. Got rid off apache now. |
| 10:24.15 | agumonkey | didnt knew there was a command for that, only saw the +h option in LFS Books |
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| 11:00.02 | superlinux | hi. what can let me make a voice chat call on MSN? |
| 11:00.22 | IamTrying | I have those strange errors with my Fedora 14 box, with Gstreamer setup, its often shows black list this and that. Is it less in Debian for such issues ex: https://gist.github.com/949551 |
| 11:00.31 | allu2 | superlinux: as far as i know its not possible at the moment |
| 11:00.58 | IamTrying | superlinux, AMSN |
| 11:01.14 | superlinux | IamTrying, sure? |
| 11:01.17 | allu2 | IamTrying: hmm it does? |
| 11:01.24 | superlinux | does it? |
| 11:01.49 | allu2 | it seems to allow sending voice clips |
| 11:01.55 | allu2 | not talking :S |
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| 11:05.03 | isbric | how do i [re]build a kernel module? |
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| 11:05.46 | IamTrying | isbric, yolinux .com have some examples |
| 11:06.16 | isbric | or is there any other way to solve my problem with modprob: FATAL: Module zd1211rw not found. |
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| 11:08.02 | cahoot | isbric: grep -i zd1211 /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 11:08.52 | public_morozov | morning, I have openldap 2.4.23, is it possible to configure it so that outlook (2007) will show all contacts immediately after address book is opened? |
| 11:08.53 | public_morozov | :) |
| 11:09.04 | public_morozov | openldap not answer me ;( |
| 11:09.11 | public_morozov | I mean #openldap.. |
| 11:09.13 | isbric | cahoot: hmm i dont have the config for the running kernel |
| 11:09.31 | cahoot | isbric: you run a debian kernel? |
| 11:09.48 | isbric | yes, im runing 2.6.30.4 |
| 11:10.05 | Bushmills | isbric: seems you need a kernel more recent than 2.6.32. 2.6.38 linux kernel comes with zd1211rw module |
| 11:10.44 | cahoot | IIRC that module has been enabled since long |
| 11:10.47 | isbric | yes, but i cant change my kernel, however in the kernelsource there is sourcefiles for the driver. |
| 11:11.10 | Bushmills | indeed. 2.6.32 comes with it too. missed that. |
| 11:11.25 | cahoot | I'd say 2.6.29 or so |
| 11:11.31 | Bushmills | isbric: installing debian stock kernel from stable will do |
| 11:11.34 | isbric | shuld have been includded sins 2.6.18 |
| 11:12.07 | isbric | Bushmills: im running on a armel device, cant fiddle with the kernel that much |
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| 11:12.45 | abrotman | public_morozov: sounds like more of an Outlook question .. |
| 11:12.46 | Bushmills | isbric: have you installed stock kernel, or compiled your own? |
| 11:13.17 | public_morozov | abrotman no, it's openldap question :) |
| 11:13.18 | isbric | got my kernel from the hardware site, precompiled uimage with some .ko drivers included. |
| 11:13.33 | Bushmills | that means, it's nota debian kernel? |
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| 11:13.58 | isbric | but i cant get my wireless up, so i have manually downloaded all thats needed to compile stuff. however i dont know how to compile tat module |
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| 11:14.17 | isbric | Bushmills: if you put it that way :P |
| 11:14.19 | Bushmills | i suppose best thing then is to go to the hardware site again, and fetch the missing module |
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| 11:14.44 | isbric | Bushmills: there is nother more to get from them. useless site and no support. |
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| 11:15.08 | Bushmills | more support than debian can give you with non-debian kernels |
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| 11:16.41 | isbric | i dont get why the kernel "preconfigured and built in a debian ish way" would make a difference in rebuilding a module? |
| 11:17.05 | abrotman | public_morozov: it's really not .. your client has to be configured to query on start |
| 11:17.08 | Bushmills | because those kernels have a known configuration, contrary to the config your kernel uses |
| 11:17.29 | Bushmills | one difference is: debian kernels provide that missing module |
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| 11:17.59 | Bushmills | if you don't get what difference it makes, then simply load that module |
| 11:18.01 | isbric | Bushmills: maby its included but not working? |
| 11:18.20 | public_morozov | abrotman in my client enabled option Virtual List View |
| 11:18.36 | Bushmills | "Module zd1211rw not found." is not a message you get from "module not working" |
| 11:19.03 | public_morozov | abrotman so, client must show contacts from openldap (like exchange scheme) |
| 11:19.09 | public_morozov | without search |
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| 11:20.14 | isbric | Bushmills: ok, so the fact that i got the source " /usr/src/linux-2.6.30.4/drivers/net/wireless/zd1211rw/" doenst make any difference ? |
| 11:20.30 | public_morozov | abrotman I know that openldap <2.4.23 not support that future, but new version is support VLV and i don't know how setup it |
| 11:20.31 | Bushmills | not for being able to load the module |
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| 11:21.15 | isbric | Bushmills: so im realy stuck then? |
| 11:21.43 | Bushmills | if the suggestion to install a debian kernel doesn't appeal to you, i'm afraid you'll have to do with what you got. |
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| 11:22.38 | isbric | Bushmills: well, they have this vmware ubuntu box to crosscompile the kernel and modules, i tryed building my own kernel but i cant say i know what im doing. |
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| 11:23.37 | isbric | so i just went with the binarys witch lokks pritty much the same as the ones i comiled. |
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| 11:24.32 | Bushmills | what's the problem with installing a debian kernel? |
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| 11:24.34 | Black_Prince | wtf is wrong with packages.debian.org ... When I query a package, and want to list it's contents, it just says 'No such package in this suite on this architecture.' |
| 11:24.40 | Bushmills | unless the rest isn't debian neither |
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| 11:25.26 | isbric | Bushmills: please have a look at this: http://www.robotshop.com/content/PDF/gadgetpc-debian-installation-guide-gadgetpc.pdf |
| 11:25.57 | isbric | i dont know if its a debian kernel or not if its done that way. |
| 11:26.01 | Bushmills | isbric: sorry, not overly keen in studying installation manuals right now |
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| 11:27.48 | isbric | ok, basicly there is compiling of kernel and modules, and just a plain copy of there debian rootfs. |
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| 11:29.09 | puty|2 | hi mans a cant access over ssh to my hosting...take a long time to respond...sometime time connect and ask for pass but after say connection close by "ip" or write failed by pipe...a havent fysicaly access.. waht can i do? i'am desperate...no support until monday....any idea?thanks |
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| 11:30.06 | Bushmills | puty|2: ssh -vvv server may give a hint what the problem is |
| 11:30.16 | puty|2 | hi mans a cant access over ssh to my hosting...take a long time to respond...sometime connect and ask for pass but after say connection close by "ip" or write failed by pipe...a havent fysicaly access.. waht can i do? i'am desperate...no support until monday....any idea?thanks |
| 11:30.27 | puty|2 | ok |
| 11:30.38 | Bushmills | do you want me to repeat the answer as well? |
| 11:30.40 | puty|2 | thanks i will check it |
| 11:30.44 | abrotman | did he really repeat after like 30 seconds? |
| 11:30.59 | puty|2 | sorry some irc problem |
| 11:31.06 | public_morozov | puty may be out of memory |
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| 11:32.18 | puty|2 | public morozov yes but without fysicaly access cant do nothing. i try shh reboot but nothing |
| 11:33.08 | public_morozov | puty|2 can u reboot server from hosting control panel? |
| 11:33.23 | puty|2 | no cry |
| 11:33.33 | public_morozov | don't worry :) try again later |
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| 11:34.15 | puty|2 | later? 14 hours trying :) |
| 11:34.21 | public_morozov | oh.. |
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| 11:34.58 | isbric | Bushmills: i htink its a debian kernel after reading some more... |
| 11:35.43 | isbric | however i dont know if my rootfs would work with a stock kernel |
| 11:36.00 | public_morozov | puty|2 for future, http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20110429/191533/ :-) |
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| 11:36.48 | ectospasm | Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum |
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| 11:39.35 | Bushmills | isbric: lenny had 2.6.26. squeeze and lenny backports moved to 2.6.32 |
| 11:40.09 | Bushmills | isbric: is it lenny or squeeze what you're running? |
| 11:40.17 | isbric | lenny |
| 11:40.52 | isbric | uname -a: Linux debian-armel 2.6.30.4 #46 Sun Aug 23 15:32:00 EEST 2009 armv5tejl GNU/Linux |
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| 11:41.55 | Bushmills | ok, then load the module with modprobe |
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| 11:42.16 | isbric | xD its still missing.. |
| 11:42.25 | isbric | thats why i want to compile it. |
| 11:42.31 | Bushmills | debian stock kernel provides it |
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| 11:42.59 | kopotrik | hiiii i have one prob. after a hard reset i tried to login normally from console but was not possible... after i enter username (root or whatever) after 3 sec (pam..) i get login incorrect |
| 11:43.12 | kopotrik | i can login at single user mode |
| 11:43.43 | allu2 | kopotrik: perhaps you can try setting passwd again on the user you use? |
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| 11:44.39 | kopotrik | allu i use root |
| 11:44.56 | kopotrik | but it's ok the pass |
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| 11:45.26 | ectospasm | if the password were ok you wouldn't be getting login incorrect |
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| 11:46.26 | kopotrik | ectospasm, i have no problem at single user |
| 11:46.32 | kopotrik | when asked for root password |
| 11:46.56 | kopotrik | in normal boot i get login incorrect BEFORE enter pass |
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| 11:47.05 | kopotrik | after entering (the right) username.. |
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| 11:52.18 | kopotrik | any idea? |
| 11:52.22 | ectospasm | kopotrik: log in single user mode, check for /etc/nologin and delete it if it's there |
| 11:52.53 | kopotrik | ok let's see |
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| 11:53.20 | kopotrik | ectospasm, there is no /etc/nologin |
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| 11:53.58 | ectospasm | if you type "init 2" in single user mode, does it allow you to log in? |
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| 11:54.15 | ignotusp | hi, I have an error at debian sid's starting. It returns |
| 11:54.15 | ignotusp | >directory '/run/udev' not writable fall back to /dev/.udev |
| 11:54.15 | ignotusp | So what's it mean? |
| 11:54.47 | kopotrik | ectospasm, no |
| 11:54.49 | kopotrik | i cant |
| 11:55.20 | ectospasm | can't what? |
| 11:55.31 | kopotrik | i cant login |
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| 11:55.39 | kopotrik | after entering username |
| 11:55.47 | kopotrik | i get login incorrect |
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| 11:57.21 | ectospasm | kopotrik: get the same thing after trying "init 2?" |
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| 11:57.53 | kopotrik | yeap ectospasm |
| 11:58.14 | ectospasm | I dunno, then |
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| 12:02.46 | Craigwd_2000 | Ectospasm: I like the implied joke of your username...: it reminds me of ectoplasm from the GhostBusters movies/cartoon... |
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| 12:07.36 | notze | hey i got strange problem i installed a few packages now adduser asks me for kerberos password |
| 12:07.40 | notze | what can it be? |
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| 12:09.10 | _linuxftw | perhaps you installed a kerberos PAM module or something |
| 12:09.37 | kopotrik | ectospasm, during boot i get some missing shared libraries! |
| 12:09.44 | kopotrik | libresolv.. |
| 12:09.50 | notze | urggs |
| 12:10.03 | notze | mhmh thats bad |
| 12:10.03 | kopotrik | libpcre |
| 12:10.03 | notze | ;D |
| 12:10.07 | _linuxftw | notze: check /etc/pam.d/adduser |
| 12:10.22 | notze | no such file or dir |
| 12:10.43 | CQ | I get this warning when running sensors-detect from lm-sensors: Warning: the required module sbs is not currently installed .... I can't find sbs anywhere, and googling isn't much help... any ideas? |
| 12:11.03 | _linuxftw | It's probably not a PAM module then |
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| 12:12.04 | _linuxftw | notze, might want to check if kerberos has just symlinked adduser to its own version, ls -l `which adduser` |
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| 12:14.35 | tdn | I know that I can nice processes, but is there a way to limit a process' CPU time to no more than say 50%? |
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| 12:15.01 | tdn | This can be used, for example, to prevent CPU from overheating or consuming too much power. |
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| 12:16.34 | Bushmills | reducing CPU clock is effective for reducing heat |
| 12:16.40 | ompaul | tdn: if an application runs at 50% for more than a minute you have a problem (at least ime) |
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| 12:18.45 | boudiccas | Can you folks help me, I'm looking for a program that is a file browser [like konqueror or dolphin] which splits the view panel into two so that you can see both panes at once. I thought it was called konversation, but in debian thats an irc program, i think |
| 12:19.23 | jelly-home | tdn: with modern CPUs, power consumption will be minimized if you let a cpu-heavy app run and finish as quickly as it can |
| 12:20.05 | Bushmills | you can do that with konqueror. but also with nautilus - the gnome file manager |
| 12:20.26 | jelly-home | tdn: if you can, enable cpu frequency throttling so the cpu will lower its frequency and voltage when there's not much load |
| 12:20.28 | _linuxftw | emcas can do that |
| 12:20.42 | boudiccas | Bushmills, i know you can do it with konqueror, but its not quite the same as what i'm looking for |
| 12:21.18 | tdn | ompaul, jelly-home: not if it is not intended for the process to terminate. |
| 12:21.22 | Bushmills | "split view panels" .. if that's not what you're looking for, then you didn't explain well what you're after |
| 12:21.33 | tdn | Like e.g. john or other non-ending programs. |
| 12:21.36 | dutchfish | boudiccas, why would you? dolphin can do that too, see: http://www.ghacks.net/2011/03/27/kdes-dolphin-tips-and-tricks/ |
| 12:21.59 | Bushmills | probably because it isn't quite what he's looking for :P |
| 12:22.43 | dutchfish | Bushmills, ah, if so, i have misread, sorry. |
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| 12:23.12 | Bushmills | seems he wants to split them ... differently :) |
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| 12:24.29 | ompaul | tdn: you could write a script that looks at ps auwx | cut -c1-20 and do some grep with cut -d"." -f1 and some magic with bc -l to do a quick calculation and log the output if the pid if you find something "being aggressive" and see if it there for an amount of times in 10 minutes obviously high scoring and resetting if it belongs to another user and so on --- kind of beyond the scope of here but fun none the less and I might just write one to find |
| 12:24.30 | ompaul | errand lp processes which run at 100% cpu and keep pushing up the load on some work boxes I have (I can't find the physical body responsible because of how the jobs are being submitted argh) |
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| 12:25.01 | Bushmills | tdn, if 100% cpu load consumes too much power, or causes the cpu to overhead, the cooling or power supply needs fixing, or the clock reduced |
| 12:25.03 | dawud | boudiccas: maybe krusader? |
| 12:25.18 | ompaul | tdn: john is non ending ... did you get the sony data or something |
| 12:25.26 | ompaul | and no I don't want to know |
| 12:25.49 | kopotrik | mmm i get input/output error |
| 12:25.50 | tdn | ompaul, :) |
| 12:25.53 | kopotrik | on some shared objects |
| 12:26.00 | kopotrik | like libresolv.2.so |
| 12:26.04 | kopotrik | .so.2 |
| 12:26.19 | kopotrik | any idea what to do? |
| 12:26.39 | Bushmills | kopotrik: check you file system |
| 12:26.46 | Bushmills | your |
| 12:26.56 | kopotrik | Bushmills, fsck? |
| 12:26.57 | notze | _linnuxftw /usr/sbin/adduser |
| 12:26.59 | Bushmills | yes |
| 12:27.06 | jsnikeris | I've been getting disconnected from my ethernet connection whenever my DHCP lease expires. syslog shows something something funky is happening: http://pastebin.com/uaxZep0T. Any ideas? |
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| 12:27.06 | dutchfish | ok |
| 12:27.25 | jelly-home | tdn: I bet there is _something_, but I don't know what. Perhaps some of that cgroups stuff can hard-limit cpu usage |
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| 12:27.52 | _linuxftw | notze, and was that a symlink? |
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| 12:28.12 | notze | nope |
| 12:28.23 | ompaul | jsnikeris: what are you using for a dhcp server? |
| 12:28.25 | _linuxftw | Check what the kerberos docs say then |
| 12:28.38 | boudiccas | thats it, krusader! sorry i got the name wrong, but krusader is what i was looking for |
| 12:28.50 | jelly-home | jsnikeris: you dhcp server rejects a request for an address, line 2: DHCPNAK from 192.168.1.1 |
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| 12:30.36 | jsnikeris | ompaul: it's a linksys WRT54GL, stock firmware |
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| 12:31.37 | jsnikeris | jelly-home: so that shouldn't be happening? |
| 12:31.58 | jelly-home | jsnikeris: if you want it to give you an address, yeah, it shouldn't |
| 12:31.59 | jsnikeris | what's up with line 10? |
| 12:32.28 | notze | okay thx |
| 12:33.03 | jelly-home | jsnikeris: no idea what that means or is about |
| 12:33.23 | ompaul | jsnikeris: is that a native install or vm or something else? |
| 12:33.56 | jsnikeris | ompaul: it's native. I'm on this machine as we speak |
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| 12:34.35 | ompaul | jsnikeris: how populated is that lan? |
| 12:34.47 | jsnikeris | ompaul: ~5 users |
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| 12:35.07 | ompaul | jsnikeris: are you setting a different range for wireless and wire? |
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| 12:35.25 | jsnikeris | ompaul: not sure what you mean |
| 12:35.35 | ompaul | jsnikeris: I'm nearly about to say lock a mac address to a specific range |
| 12:35.45 | ompaul | jsnikeris: all wired? |
| 12:35.58 | jsnikeris | ompaul: no, this is the only wired computer |
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| 12:37.16 | jsnikeris | although, I have been getting disconnected on my laptop too...checking the logs |
| 12:37.36 | ompaul | jsnikeris: I think (not 100% sure) you can run a different range for wireless and ethernet - that might help |
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| 12:37.56 | ompaul | yes I do think they are competing ;-) |
| 12:38.03 | ompaul | just an instinct |
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| 12:38.30 | ompaul | (i.e. there is insufficient information but what I'd be looking for) |
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| 12:38.41 | jsnikeris | competing for the same ip address? |
| 12:38.49 | ompaul | racing for it |
| 12:38.52 | ompaul | ;-) |
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| 12:39.54 | lvh | Hi. Do any of the simple relay MTAs (esmptd, nullmailer...) support local delivery? |
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| 12:47.41 | jelly-home | lvh: uh... if they did they wouldn't be simple! |
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| 12:48.07 | jelly-home | they'd need a setuid app and a MDA and stuff |
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| 12:48.46 | lvh | jelly-home: okay, exim4-daemon-light it is |
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| 12:49.25 | jelly-home | or postfix or whatever |
| 12:49.36 | lvh | jelly-home: Well, sure, I don't really care, I'm not interacting with this MTA |
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| 12:54.10 | ompaul | !smarthost |
| 12:54.10 | dpkg | A smart host is a type of mail relay server (typically provided by your ISP), which allows an SMTP server to route e-mail to an intermediate mail server, rather than directly to the recipient's server. |
| 12:54.28 | abrotman | not what he asked for ? |
| 12:56.42 | ompaul | true |
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| 13:17.26 | caraconan | Good evening. I'm configuring a webserver, and I think my IMAP server (courier) is just listening on IPv6, and not IPv4: |
| 13:17.38 | caraconan | netstat -nlp | grep courier |
| 13:17.39 | caraconan | tcp6 0 0 :::143 :::* LISTEN 5911/couriertcpd |
| 13:17.39 | caraconan | tcp6 0 0 :::993 :::* LISTEN 1339/couriertcpd |
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| 13:17.53 | caraconan | Any clue how to enable IPv4 in courier? |
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| 13:19.57 | ambro718 | Why the heck is "/lib/udev/net.agent" running on my system? All it seems to be doing is polling network interface state in one second intervals!?! |
| 13:20.11 | ambro718 | How do I get rid of this net.agent piece of shit? |
| 13:20.19 | caraconan | sudo dpkg -l | grep snmp |
| 13:20.30 | caraconan | I think you have snmp agent installed (not sure) |
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| 13:21.21 | ambro718 | dpkg -l | grep snmp --- dpkg-query: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 0: field name `' must be followed by colon |
| 13:21.21 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep snmp --- dpkg-query: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 0: field name `' must be followed by colon |
| 13:21.30 | caraconan | sudo dpkg -l | grep snmp |
| 13:21.49 | Craigwd_2000 | I think there may have been a mis-communication problem...: I failed to communicate that when I built my new Kernel that my source tree didn't even have a .git folder to begin with in the first place... Why doesn't the Debian Manual mention that I actually need to have a .git folder...? The Wheezy AMD64 2.6.38-2 headers package that I installed gave me a source tarball to work with...: hence my source tree was in-comp |
| 13:21.49 | Craigwd_2000 | in that technically I didn't even ever have a .git folder at all... |
| 13:21.54 | ambro718 | I am root. And I don't have sudo. |
| 13:22.09 | caraconan | dpkg -l | grep snmp |
| 13:22.09 | dpkg | ii | grep snmp 3.2-14 caraconan's private porn collection |
| 13:22.53 | caraconan | then: netstat -nlp | grep snmp |
| 13:23.05 | caraconan | And see if you have snmp-agent running on your server |
| 13:23.34 | ambro718 | caraconan: I don't. I have pretty much nothing. pstree http://pastebin.com/fHcfw3Zc |
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| 13:25.03 | caraconan | Did you already checked snmp related installed packages? |
| 13:25.13 | caraconan | Did you check ports as I suggested? |
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| 13:25.42 | ambro718 | caraconan: Yes. There is no snmp. Only ssh is bound. |
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| 13:26.33 | caraconan | Then just kill the process and check your boot time starting services |
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| 13:26.42 | tdn | jelly-home, ok. I will try to search about cgroups. |
| 13:26.54 | dualboot | @caraconan: Tried "telnet 127.0.0.1 143" to verify that it is not listening via IPv4? No address is listed, so should listen on all IPv4 and IPv6 addresses. |
| 13:27.17 | ambro718 | caraconan: It has nothing to do with services. It is spawned by udev when a network interface is detected. See /lib/udev/rules.d/80-drivers.rules . |
| 13:27.54 | caraconan | ok, working. I have to check why squirrelmail can't connect to courier |
| 13:27.57 | caraconan | Thanks |
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| 13:28.27 | wer0ckz | hi guys |
| 13:28.34 | wer0ckz | what is the command for package manager? |
| 13:28.40 | wer0ckz | im using Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 |
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| 13:28.45 | neoice | aptitude, apt-get |
| 13:29.08 | ambro718 | Ah, it seems that net.agent it's waiting for the "lo" interface to come up, which isn't coming up for some reason. |
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| 13:29.31 | ambro718 | Why would "lo" not come up? So it isn't started by /etc/init.d/networking ? |
| 13:29.32 | wer0ckz | bash: aptitude: command not found |
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| 13:29.40 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell wer0ckz about reference |
| 13:29.46 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell wer0ckz about refcard |
| 13:29.53 | wer0ckz | bash: dpkg: command not found |
| 13:29.53 | wer0ckz | \ |
| 13:29.56 | wer0ckz | c'mon |
| 13:30.29 | jelly-home | wer0ckz: ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg ? |
| 13:30.45 | wer0ckz | tux-221:~# ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg |
| 13:30.45 | wer0ckz | drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 2011-04-30 08:29 . |
| 13:30.45 | wer0ckz | drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 2011-04-30 08:29 .. |
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| 13:31.02 | wer0ckz | tux-221:~# cat /etc/issue |
| 13:31.02 | wer0ckz | Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 \n \l |
| 13:31.25 | jelly-home | that's not output of that command |
| 13:31.27 | armani_ | I get an error when transferring large files from an USB key to my hd on my squeeze. |
| 13:31.43 | armani_ | then the computer hangs and needs a hard reboot.. |
| 13:31.52 | wer0ckz | ? |
| 13:32.07 | armani_ | anyone know how i can proceed to fix this? |
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| 13:32.25 | jelly-home | wer0ckz: your system might be a restricted jailed environment or vps |
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| 13:32.40 | wer0ckz | im using a root user |
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| 13:32.59 | jelly-home | wer0ckz: if there is no /usr/bin/dpkg, it's not a complete debian system. Contact whoever installed it. |
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| 13:33.24 | wer0ckz | ok |
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| 13:34.29 | jelly-home | wer0ckz: just to verify a thing, what does "ls -ld /usr/bin/dpkg" say? |
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| 13:35.10 | wer0ckz | ? |
| 13:35.13 | wer0ckz | can you scroll up? |
| 13:35.16 | wer0ckz | i pasted the output |
| 13:35.42 | jelly-home | no, it's a different command |
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| 13:36.07 | toketin | hi, i've a problem with menu-xdg |
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| 13:36.28 | superlinux | hi. I want to download openoffice 3.3 but it's very slow. wget is going to some slow mirror. how can I force it not to follow a mirror? |
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| 13:37.00 | toketin | because if i install some package it creates in .local/share/applications a dir named menu-xdg where they are some .desktop file that already exists |
| 13:37.03 | toketin | why? |
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| 13:38.30 | lapsusbrutus | trying to compile something on debian squeeze and get errors cause I dont have installed zlib 1.2.3 What package would that be? cant find it |
| 13:38.36 | wandchen | hello , how can i run UG/NX on debian ? i need it to work ! but i love debian ? |
| 13:39.38 | lapsusbrutus | could be zlibc :) trying that one |
| 13:39.39 | themill | ,info zlib1g-dev |
| 13:39.42 | judd | Package zlib1g-dev (libdevel, optional) in squeeze/i386: compression library - development. Version: 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3; Size: 181.8k; Installed: 408k; Homepage: http://zlib.net/ |
| 13:39.45 | themill | lapsusbrutus: ^ |
| 13:39.52 | lapsusbrutus | Ok thanks ;) |
| 13:40.20 | wandchen | hello , how can i run UG/NX on debian ? i need it to work ! but i love debian . |
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| 13:42.53 | puty|2 | public morozov are u? |
| 13:42.59 | ambro718 | It's funny how the simplest things in Linux distros always seem to be done worst. For example, the init/startup system in Debian is a mess of fragile and stupid bash scripts. |
| 13:43.45 | cahoot | ambro718: if you say so |
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| 13:43.58 | daemon | hey all when I try to install a package I am receiving this error |
| 13:44.04 | daemon | Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python2.5/python2.5-minimal_2.5.2-15_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 35.9.37.225 80] |
| 13:44.08 | ambro718 | Now why would that be? I guess the more capable individuals find such stuff boring and concentrate on more interesting stuff, so the boring stuff is left to the incompetent. |
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| 13:45.01 | lapsusbrutus | daemon try to apt-get update first? or check the sources.list maybe? |
| 13:45.04 | puty|2 | some method to force reset? dos? ddos? iam desperate |
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| 13:45.34 | dawud | ambro718: nonsense. much effort is currently ongoing to provide a better startup. check systemd. |
| 13:46.29 | themill | daemon: that package isn't in any debian release. |
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| 13:47.12 | daemon | themill, lapsusbrutus was right apt-get update fixed the problem |
| 13:47.34 | themill | good good |
| 13:47.38 | ambro718 | dawud: I heard of it, but I've never seen it actually used anywhere. I've seen this post ( http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html ), currently down, enumerating its so-called "features". It makes me sick. |
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| 13:48.36 | dawud | ambro718: can you elaborate why? |
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| 13:48.55 | superlinux | wandchen, hi. can you tell me more about that software, UG/NX? |
| 13:49.13 | themill | dawud, ambro718: perhaps you should take this to a /msg or ##linux or even #defocus. It's not really a debian user support discussion. |
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| 13:49.22 | ambro718 | dawud: it's called "feature creep" |
| 13:49.23 | superlinux | wandchen, what is it? |
| 13:49.29 | wandchen | superlinux: hi |
| 13:49.38 | superlinux | hi |
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| 13:50.31 | wandchen | superlinux: its a CAD/CAM app |
| 13:50.38 | superlinux | ok |
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| 13:51.03 | dawud | themill: why not? http://wiki.debian.org/systemd |
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| 13:51.20 | superlinux | i'll google a little for you |
| 13:51.42 | dawud | themill, ambro718: of course I'm only in for a constructive dialogue. |
| 13:51.48 | wandchen | superlinux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_(Unigraphics) you can see more here |
| 13:52.12 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:52.24 | wandchen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_(Unigraphics) |
| 13:52.38 | armani_ | i get a child_rip when i try to transfer files from usbkey to hd on my amd64 squeeze...any ideas how to fix? |
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| 13:53.04 | superlinux | wandchen, check this out: http://www.mcadcentral.com/ug/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=362&PN=1 |
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| 13:54.39 | kopotrik | i have the following problem: i cant login normally (only from single user mode) and no services start.. |
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| 13:55.12 | xoz | most likely hd problem or boot problem |
| 13:55.13 | kopotrik | clues: when working from single user and i try to ping i get libresolv.so.2 input/output error |
| 13:55.25 | superlinux | wandchen, is that ok? |
| 13:55.35 | superlinux | wandchen, is that good? |
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| 13:55.44 | t0th | hi |
| 13:55.48 | ambro718 | dawud: for example of what I mean by "feature creep", check out a piece of software I wrote for network interface management, and compare that to systemd. http://code.google.com/p/badvpn/wiki/NCD |
| 13:55.50 | kopotrik | xoz any sollution ? |
| 13:55.51 | t0th | i have a job in my cronjob |
| 13:56.06 | t0th | * * * * * wget http://www.etst.com/ > file |
| 13:56.18 | t0th | why is created file file.1 file.2 file.3 ...? |
| 13:56.21 | t0th | i need only file |
| 13:56.29 | wandchen | superlinux: i think it for free on linux ï¼ï¼ï¼ |
| 13:56.46 | superlinux | wandchen, I donno |
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| 13:57.17 | ambro718 | dawud: after reading that page about my program, it should be clear to anyone what the program does, and how and what for it is to be used. With systemd I have a page which barely gives an introduction, 30 man pages with no clear starting point, and no obvious example of how to implement e.g. a service and dependencies. |
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| 13:58.56 | superlinux | wandchen, can it print a solid of a drawing this NX? |
| 13:59.27 | kopotrik | xoz any sollution ? |
| 13:59.28 | superlinux | wandchen, like using lazer cutting? |
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| 14:00.00 | kopotrik | is possible only some (not many) libraries have problem so i can replace them.. |
| 14:00.22 | xoz | kopotrik: show more error messages. we cannot just guess |
| 14:00.27 | wandchen | superlinux: i donnot know âlazer cuttingâ mean ï¼ |
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| 14:01.01 | kopotrik | xoz when i try to ls /lib/libresolv.so.2 i get input/output error |
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| 14:01.21 | superlinux | wandchen, like you have a 3d drawing and then output it as a sculpture? |
| 14:01.37 | xoz | kopotrik: dmesg and look for problems with hd |
| 14:02.01 | wandchen | superlinux: no |
| 14:02.07 | superlinux | ah ok |
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| 14:02.38 | kopotrik | xoz, i cant see any error... |
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| 14:02.56 | kopotrik | i tried to fsck from rescue and everything was fine.. |
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| 14:03.24 | kopotrik | all 3 raid arrays |
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| 14:03.39 | andornaut | Anyone know how i can persist changes to /proc/sys/fs... Any changes I make are lost on reboot, IIRC there was a file in etc to save these changes(?) |
| 14:03.43 | xoz | investigate more. |
| 14:04.22 | cusco_ | andornaut: you can use crontab @reboot |
| 14:04.24 | xoz | andornaut: /proc is virtual location |
| 14:04.40 | ansgar | andornaut: sysctl |
| 14:04.43 | kopotrik | xoz, where to look for more infos? |
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| 14:04.47 | Bartzy | Hi |
| 14:04.47 | andornaut | ah, thanks all |
| 14:04.59 | Bartzy | I want iptables to log to a different log than syslog. |
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| 14:05.50 | Bartzy | iptables is logging with log-level warning now |
| 14:06.22 | Bartzy | What do I need to set in /etc/rsyslog.conf to get all iptables log to a different log file (/var/log/firewall.log) ? |
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| 14:07.41 | sanjoyd | I'm trying to install debian testing; and the installer halts on the "install base system" phase. In syslog, I get an error by debootstrap saying BADARG, --no-check-gpg. Any pointers? |
| 14:07.44 | ompaul | Bartzy: you might want to check /etc/rsyslog.conf with a restart of logging afterward |
| 14:08.00 | Bartzy | ompaul: But what do I need to set in rsyslog.conf? |
| 14:08.13 | ompaul | Bartzy: read the file for your iptables lines |
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| 14:08.29 | Bartzy | ompaul: What / |
| 14:08.35 | Bartzy | ? |
| 14:08.48 | Bartzy | I need to use a different syslog facility in my iptables script ? |
| 14:08.58 | Bartzy | and then refer to it in /etc/rsyslog.conf ? |
| 14:09.49 | ompaul | Bartzy: what you do is look in rsyslog first and see if iptables are mentioned in there - if not then go check out your iptables conf if you really want I can log into a box where I use logging but that is how I tackle it ;-) |
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| 14:10.13 | ompaul | Bartzy: grep as root in /etc/ will tell you lots about your iptables stuff |
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| 14:13.41 | ompaul | Bartzy: did you find anything useful? |
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| 14:16.20 | Bartzy | ompaul: No. |
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| 14:18.27 | ompaul | Bartzy: ok a quick look around the net said that iptables like to log off kern.=debug /var/log/destination |
| 14:18.56 | ompaul | or kern.warning |
| 14:18.59 | Bartzy | yeah but then it will log iptables logs to all kern.debug.. which means /var/log/messages and stuff like that too.. |
| 14:21.14 | ompaul | Bartzy: have fun looking at this then ;-) http://blog.shadypixel.com/log-iptables-messages-to-a-separate-file-with-rsyslog/ |
| 14:21.34 | ompaul | Bartzy: and don't forget the last part log rotate ;-) |
| 14:21.43 | Bartzy | thanks :) |
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| 14:24.36 | tobiasBora | Hello ! |
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| 14:25.10 | tobiasBora | I would like to map the windows key to have fo windows key the super key and not the meta key. |
| 14:25.26 | tobiasBora | is it possible ? |
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| 14:27.56 | xoz | xmodmap |
| 14:28.20 | xoz | tobiasBora: man xmodmap |
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| 14:29.34 | tobiasBora | xoz : when I use xmodmap, man xmodmap say that it's only for X-session. But me it's for emacs in tty... |
| 14:30.23 | xoz | tobiasBora: apt-cache search keymap |
| 14:30.32 | sanjoyd | I manually installed the base system, but now the debian installer won't let me proceed without installing the base system again. |
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| 14:30.53 | sanjoyd | How do I tell it that I have installed the base system and to proceed without the safety checks? |
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| 14:31.16 | xoz | tobiasBora: you can edit the console-data for your keyboard |
| 14:31.52 | xoz | tobiasBora: dpkg -L console0data... look for the keyboard used. open the file and swap keyboard there. |
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| 14:33.46 | xoz | tobiasBora: dpkg-reconfigure console-data... look for the keymap used and you can edit the file there. |
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| 14:34.31 | tobiasBora | xoz : I've only console-setup, console-terminus and consolekit. |
| 14:35.07 | t0th | any? |
| 14:35.39 | xoz | apt-get install console-data |
| 14:35.49 | tobiasBora | xoz : I'm trying ! |
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| 14:36.03 | tobiasBora | thanks ^^ |
| 14:36.07 | xoz | tobiasBora: it maybe now called console-setup |
| 14:36.22 | xoz | tobiasBora: try dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
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| 14:37.36 | tobiasBora | xoz : I've tryed (???) console-setup and it is the width of the font, the name of the font and so one... |
| 14:38.12 | xoz | no console-data? |
| 14:39.31 | tobiasBora | xoz : console is installing. |
| 14:40.21 | tobiasBora | xoz : What I've to choose in the menu ? |
| 14:40.25 | xoz | tobiasBora: /etc/console contains the keymap |
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| 14:41.02 | xoz | tobiasBora: choose whatever make sense to you |
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| 14:41.30 | xoz | tobiasBora: /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz you can backup and edit it to swap keys |
| 14:41.33 | tobiasBora | xod : /etc/console : ne file |
| 14:41.52 | xoz | tobiasBora: finish the configuration of console-data |
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| 14:43.17 | tobiasBora | xoz : with console-data, whe can only choose azert, qwerty, MAC ... |
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| 14:43.55 | xoz | choose qwerty or microsoft or ibm whatever your keyboard |
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| 14:45.41 | GorillaPatch | Hello I have a problem regarding a daily cron job. I put my script owned as root, chmoded to 755 into /etc/cron.daily |
| 14:45.44 | tobiasBora | yes, (I'm french so I choose azerty) but after we can't add super key |
| 14:45.47 | GorillaPatch | but it does not get executed |
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| 14:46.41 | themill | GorillaPatch: what's the filename of your script? |
| 14:46.44 | xoz | tobiasBora: you have to choose your hw keyboard. if it is french choose it, if it is typical standard keyboad, use qwerty |
| 14:46.55 | xoz | tobiasBora: it is not about you, it is about the hw |
| 14:47.09 | GorillaPatch | backupBlog2S3.pl |
| 14:47.18 | GorillaPatch | themill: it's a perl script |
| 14:47.36 | themill | GorillaPatch: get rid of the .pl extension ("man run-parts" for why) |
| 14:47.36 | GorillaPatch | themill: and it has a shebang at the start. Executing it from the command line works fine |
| 14:47.46 | tobiasBora | xoz : what's hw ? |
| 14:48.02 | GorillaPatch | themill: Thanks. Always these small details... |
| 14:48.11 | xoz | hardware |
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| 14:49.48 | tobiasBora | xoz : yes, but when I type on "windows key", it's like if I press "Alt key" (=META and I would like SUPER) |
| 14:49.49 | GorillaPatch | themill: you were right. removing the extension and testing it with run-parts --test <dir name> showed that it now will get executed |
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| 14:50.28 | GorillaPatch | themill: Thanks alot. Now my blog and its DB gets backuped to S3 automatically. |
| 14:50.34 | themill | :) |
| 14:50.35 | GorillaPatch | themill: a good feeling. |
| 14:51.06 | xoz | tobiasBora: look for the console-data keymap... check /etc/console |
| 14:51.24 | xoz | tobiasBora: you have to edit the file loaded by the kernel that defines the mapping |
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| 14:51.53 | babilen | tobiasBora: Please look into /etc/default/keyboard, "man keyboard", "man setupcon" and "$PAGER /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst" |
| 14:51.56 | xoz | tobiasBora: /usr/share/keymaps/ |
| 14:52.25 | Craigwd_2000 | That's another thing I've always wondered about...: can I remap my WinKey to work like a Tux Key that opens KDE 4's K-Menu...? |
| 14:52.36 | xoz | tobiasBora: try to find what keyboard you indicated and edit it so that the kernel will use your mapping. just backup the one you edited |
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| 14:53.47 | xoz | tobiasBora: likes /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/ |
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| 14:54.18 | xoz | tobiasBora: look for the file there to edit that you choose in console-data reconfiguration |
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| 14:59.08 | tobiasBora | xoz : I'm looking the files |
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| 15:00.47 | cheater2 | hi guys |
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| 15:01.13 | tobiasBora | I've for the windows key : keycode = 125 = Decr_Console |
| 15:02.01 | tobiasBora | xoz : I've for the windows key : keycode = 125 = Decr_Console how change it to the super key ? |
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| 15:03.10 | cheater2 | i have a system disk which has had a severe case of bad sectors. i'm trying to recover and/or repair it. I guess the first step is to copy the partition (ext3) off the bad disk onto a new one. I have tried gparted, and even made it skip the fsck by replacing e2fsck with a shell script that returns true, but it just fails at some point. what is the best command to do this? |
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| 15:03.39 | tobiasBora | xoz : If i put = SUPER, it will work ? |
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| 15:07.15 | BlackFate | cheater, dd_rescue it and then mount your new copy |
| 15:07.25 | BlackFate | cheater2, |
| 15:07.41 | cheater2 | yeah just remembered dd_rescue |
| 15:07.42 | cheater2 | thanks |
| 15:07.43 | cheater2 | ! |
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| 15:10.32 | MartyD | quick question guys: Has anybody had success making iTunes work on Deb 6? And if, what did you use? VM? Wine? |
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| 15:11.11 | SMatt | Hello guys, how are you all? |
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| 15:11.15 | Nu^253r | hi, which is better, and why?! Using sudo or using su ?! |
| 15:11.30 | skamikaze | MartyD: why itunes if there's rhythmbox |
| 15:12.27 | KaffeeJunky123 | MartyD: you can even connect your iWhatever to rhythmbox, iirc. |
| 15:12.31 | MartyD | skamikaze: Talked a buddy into debian, and he insists on using iTunes, has an iphone as well so it makes sense |
| 15:13.02 | skamikaze | MartyD: give him mac os if he wants to use mac os |
| 15:13.03 | cheater2 | BlackFate, how would i use dd_rescue to copy the partition to a new disk, as opposed to copying it to a file? |
| 15:13.05 | KaffeeJunky123 | people tried to run it in wine, with little success, atleast from what I know |
| 15:13.15 | SMatt | I'm facing a problem, my sound card seems to be broken, but it's strange because sometimes it works and then suddenly it doesn't until I reboot the system. I tried # alsa force-reload and # /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload but it's not helping, what should I do to see if it's the hardware broken or what? |
| 15:13.21 | skamikaze | MartyD: you don't visit McDonalds and order a big king |
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| 15:13.34 | MartyD | skamikaze: It's a HP netbook, and he is already happy he isn't stuck to Win7 |
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| 15:14.05 | MartyD | skamikaze: So what you wanna say is, it doen't work |
| 15:14.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | SMatt: what debian version are you using and when exactly is the problem occuring, is it limited to any special software? |
| 15:14.27 | BlackFate | cheater2, just point the of= to an empty partition. but i personally like the file better |
| 15:14.33 | MartyD | that's fine, we can make the netbook dual boot |
| 15:14.45 | skamikaze | MartyD: i read bout some people running itunes with wine but with a lot handicaps/ lot effort of time |
| 15:14.47 | cheater2 | BlackFate, hmm, thanks! |
| 15:14.49 | BlackFate | cheater, you can mount it from file too |
| 15:14.52 | BlackFate | cheater2, |
| 15:15.03 | Leoneof | hi, what's the latest version of kernel on Debian 6? |
| 15:15.03 | skamikaze | MartyD: it just makes no sense coz rhythmbox covers that perfect |
| 15:15.03 | MartyD | skamikaze: thanks, that's all I needed to know |
| 15:15.04 | SMatt | Debian testing, when? I don't have idea, suddenly it stop to work and I can't use even audacious or any app to listen music or play videos, just to say something, KaffeeJunky123 |
| 15:15.25 | MartyD | skamikaze: The problem would be software updates to the iphone I think |
| 15:15.29 | cheater2 | BlackFate, does the new partition need to be of the exact same size? |
| 15:15.30 | jhutchins_lt | MartyD: Amarok has a decent iPod interface, probably works with the phones too. |
| 15:15.37 | cheater2 | BlackFate, or can the new one be bigger? |
| 15:15.51 | KaffeeJunky123 | SMatt: testing is using pulseaudio, restarting alsa won't resolve all problems with the soundsystem then ofc. |
| 15:16.00 | jhutchins_lt | cheater2: The new one will be the same size. You can expand it later with gparted. |
| 15:16.13 | SMatt | ofc? |
| 15:16.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | ofcourse |
| 15:16.47 | cheater2 | jhutchins_lt, how will it be the same size? i have to create it *first*.. it will have a size at that point |
| 15:16.51 | BlackFate | cheater2, it can be bigger and the rest of the space will be unpartitioned |
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| 15:17.00 | jhutchins_lt | cheater2: dd will create it. |
| 15:17.04 | cheater2 | ok so the new partition will become resized? |
| 15:17.09 | skamikaze | MartyD: mama told me if you can't tell something nice (in that case bout apple) you better say nothin |
| 15:17.15 | cheater2 | jhutchins, i want to copy from partition to partition, not from disk to disk |
| 15:17.16 | jhutchins_lt | cheater2: The partition will be overwritten. |
| 15:17.22 | SMatt | I see, I didn't know that it's using pulseaudio, I will try to restart it |
| 15:17.22 | cheater2 | ok |
| 15:17.28 | cheater2 | makes sense, thanks |
| 15:17.31 | BlackFate | cheater2, the dd will copy to the new one.. and you can resize the filesystem later on to fit the new partition |
| 15:17.48 | skamikaze | MartyD: virtualbox4 + usb + itunes on win may help - dunno |
| 15:17.56 | SMatt | KaffeeJunky123, it's not using pulseaudio, I don't have it installed |
| 15:18.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | SMatt: that's rather strange |
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| 15:18.24 | SMatt | and believe me, audacious was working pretty well and it's using the alsa output plugin |
| 15:18.53 | SMatt | should I install it? |
| 15:19.16 | MartyD | skamikaze: yea thought about vmware if wine fails, but I do not hate apple, I also have that phone and I like it besides the Linux support |
| 15:19.45 | KaffeeJunky123 | SMatt: no don't install it |
| 15:19.52 | SMatt | ok |
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| 15:20.22 | skamikaze | MartyD: even if you get itunes running I'd not perform a firmware upgrade by wine software |
| 15:20.37 | KaffeeJunky123 | SMatt: I was just thinking that it might be the reason why restarting the soundserver didn't help, now I'm pretty clueless about your problem |
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| 15:21.07 | SMatt | maybe the soundcard is broken and that's all :P |
| 15:21.19 | MartyD | skamikaze: ya, gotta face reality.. I'll try vmware, thanks for your opinions! |
| 15:21.46 | SMatt | but I would like to check if it's the case because in this case I wonder why it sometimes works when I reboot the system |
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| 15:23.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | SMatt: if it does only randomly work after rebooting it could still be a hardware issue |
| 15:23.19 | SMatt | yep :| |
| 15:23.31 | KaffeeJunky123 | SMatt: if it works everytime you reboot, it's definitly software related |
| 15:23.51 | SMatt | no, not always, it works randomly |
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| 15:24.00 | SMatt | or using a strange patter hehe |
| 15:24.03 | SMatt | pattern * |
| 15:24.09 | KaffeeJunky123 | that still doesn't say it's not a software error though |
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| 15:25.44 | SMatt | oh, I will try using a live CD that I have used before and the sound was working well |
| 15:25.55 | SMatt | it must work if it's not a hardware issue |
| 15:25.58 | Craigwd_2000 | SMatt: my sound card never quite worked right with Wheezy but it worked just fine in AMD64 SimplyMEPIS 11.0RC2 running KDE 4.6.1...: I upgraded it via adding the Wheezy Repo: pinning Wheezy in Synaptic & adding the qt-kde Repo & running sudo aptitude -t experimental full-upgrade... |
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| 15:27.33 | SMatt | I really don't want to upgrade to experimental if I can fix it using testing, I will try with the live CD just to be sure if the hardware is broken or not |
| 15:27.43 | Craigwd_2000 | With a sudo apt-get update before running the aptitude command obviously too... |
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| 15:29.16 | SMatt | thank you all, I will reboot now! |
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| 15:43.52 | cheater2 | BlackFate, ddrescue seems much better than dd_rescue |
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| 15:49.04 | harovali | hi , I have installed gcc and cpp 2.95 for backwards compatibility in order to compile come old code in a new installation of debian. I'm getting "undefined reference to `__ctype_b'" as an error from many .so libraries, which is natural. Is there something extra I can install so that the error goes away ? or some specific symlink in the lib directories , so that the compiler works happily ? (sorry for the outdatedness ) |
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| 15:51.19 | demetan | how to encrypt easily a disc or a partition ? |
| 15:51.41 | qwd | demetan: just select full disk encryption during installation, very easy |
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| 15:52.35 | demetan | thank s qwd, but I don t want to encrypt all the system but just an external disk |
| 15:52.52 | cockroach | !dm-crypt |
| 15:52.53 | dpkg | dm-crypt is a Linux kernel subsystem providing a cryptographic device-mapper target, which enables filesystem encryption in files, partitions, whole disks, logical and software RAID volumes. dm-crypt is the successor of <cryptoloop> and uses the Crypto API cryptography framework. The cryptsetup and cryptmount utilites are in the cryptsetup package. http://www.saout.de/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/ |
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| 15:53.26 | qwd | demetan: if you're using gnome you can do is from Disk Utility |
| 15:53.41 | demetan | thank s cockroach |
| 15:53.56 | demetan | qwd : a yes ?? |
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| 15:55.33 | rajkosto | hey how do i get oepnvpn 2.2.0 on squeeze |
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| 15:56.09 | berserkr | rajkosto: insn't in backports? |
| 15:56.51 | berserkr | isn't* |
| 15:56.55 | cockroach | wow. is ftp.debian.org painfully slow today or is someone messing with my tubes? |
| 15:57.13 | rajkosto | berserkr, do i need to add contrib non-free to backports ? |
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| 15:57.25 | RichiH | cockroach: cdn.debian.net |
| 15:57.39 | berserkr | i dont know |
| 15:57.44 | berserkr | i only ask you |
| 15:57.44 | RichiH | also, don't use the main ftp unless you have a good reason |
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| 15:58.16 | cockroach | RichiH: true. i had some issues with my country-specific mirror a while ago (don't remember what it was). maybe i should switch back... |
| 15:58.18 | rajkosto | this is my sources.list http://codepad.org/Dcgq0oNu |
| 15:58.42 | rajkosto | aptitude upgrade openvpn does nothing |
| 15:58.55 | RichiH | cockroach: you really want cdn.debian.net |
| 15:59.10 | RichiH | geo-ip and it's always pointing to fast mirrors |
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| 15:59.18 | cockroach | RichiH: sweet, thanks! |
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| 15:59.35 | RichiH | cockroach: as you are in .ch, ftp5.gwdg.de is usually fast, too |
| 15:59.36 | berserkr | rajkosto: try apt-cache -t squeeze-backports search openvpn |
| 16:00.21 | themill | makes berserkr try that command |
| 16:00.23 | cockroach | RichiH: ah nice, i'll do some comparisons |
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| 16:02.40 | berserkr | to see if exists the version you are looking for |
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| 16:03.13 | cockroach | huh, cdn. is even slower than ftp.debian.org. weird. |
| 16:03.42 | rajkosto | berserkr, i see openvpn but n oversion there |
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| 16:04.47 | themill | berserkr: apt-cache doesn't take a -t option. |
| 16:04.52 | themill | ,versions openvpn |
| 16:04.53 | judd | Package openvpn on i386 -- lenny: 2.1~rc11-1; squeeze: 2.1.3-2; sid: 2.1.3-4+b1; wheezy: 2.1.3-4+b1; experimental: 2.1.3-5 |
| 16:05.05 | themill | rajkosto: ^^ |
| 16:05.31 | rndm | ok, forgive me if this is ubuntu specific, but nobody there seems to want to talk about policykit. I am trying to set it so I don't need a password for update-manager. This isn't working for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/601378/ . Any ideas? |
| 16:05.52 | berserkr | sorry themill i'm not in debian now |
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| 16:06.29 | rajkosto | themill, lol why |
| 16:06.29 | berserkr | themill: aptitude does? |
| 16:06.37 | themill | cockroach: cdn.d.n just gives you a mirror that appears to be geographically close to you and passes some consistency tests (no stale mirrors). It doesn't actually find you the fastest mirror. If this is a machine that doesn't move around (i.e. not a laptop) then hand-coding your own preferred mirror would be better. |
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| 16:07.07 | themill | berserkr: not for search operations it doesn't. |
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| 16:07.55 | cockroach | themill: i see. |
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| 16:08.06 | cockroach | themill: well thanks, i'll just keep trying until i find a good one :) |
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| 16:09.29 | BlackFate | hi, http://paste.debian.net/115569/ did the raid fail? this is what the (F) is for? |
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| 16:09.32 | themill | cockroach: apt-spy can help with this, but note that it doesn't really do a proper speed test. It's unusual that a mirror can't saturate your lastlink (adsl etc) anyway. |
| 16:09.41 | cockroach | ah, now i remember: my 'normal' mirror gives me a 'Hash Sum mismatch'. |
| 16:09.52 | berserkr | ahh is correct. only executing apt-cache search openvpn you can see both versions |
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| 16:15.40 | sda | hi all! Question, with monitor applet i can see read and write disk usage, can I see it with a terminal command? Thanks! |
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| 16:16.43 | rajkosto | so wait, debian lenny has openvpnn |
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| 16:16.46 | rajkosto | but not squeeze ? |
| 16:16.47 | rajkosto | 2.2.0 |
| 16:18.02 | cockroach | ah, de.debian.org works, seems ch.debian.org is broken. also, de. is quite fast :) |
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| 16:22.34 | wildc4rd | afternoon all |
| 16:23.06 | cockroach | hi there |
| 16:23.11 | KaffeeJunky123 | wildc4rd: time zones, do you know them? good afternoon to you though. |
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| 16:25.29 | gruenefuesse | Hi. I am looking for voices and a tool that can read for example .txt files |
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| 16:26.44 | bitshuffler_ | Hello. In which package can I find "autogen.sh"? |
| 16:26.57 | tensorpudding | gruenefuesse: if you want a speech synthesizer, you might try festival |
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| 16:28.18 | gruenefuesse | autogen is a package for itself bitshuffler_ |
| 16:28.30 | gruenefuesse | thanks tensorpudding |
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| 16:29.21 | iluminator101 | hey guys after i removed an old kernel i am getting this http://pastebin.com/s0gfkKQ9 |
| 16:29.55 | gruenefuesse | bitshuffler_: but i found this here too: http://freshmeat.net/projects/buildconf/ |
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| 16:30.08 | bitshuffler_ | thanks :) |
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| 16:33.25 | gruenefuesse | maybe need to update grub iluminator101 ? |
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| 16:34.14 | iluminator101 | how do re run the boot loader |
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| 16:34.20 | iluminator101 | how do i re run the boot loader |
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| 16:35.46 | cusco_ | iluminator101: I don't understhand your question |
| 16:36.01 | cusco_ | update-grub as root |
| 16:36.01 | cusco_ | ? |
| 16:36.02 | gruenefuesse | iluminator101: "/usr/sbin/update-grub |
| 16:36.29 | gruenefuesse | without the "<-- or like cusco said |
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| 16:37.24 | gruenefuesse | iluminator101: http://serverfault.com/questions/4427/damaged-vmlinuz-and-initrd-img-symbolic-links-after-kernel-uninstall |
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| 16:39.21 | iluminator101 | thanks gruenefuesse Cusco i tried you command gruenefuesse and it worked thanks |
| 16:39.33 | gruenefuesse | :-) super |
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| 16:40.15 | c3l | org-mode for emacs is supposed to be shipped with org-cdlatex-mode, but it isnt? http://orgmode.org/manual/CDLaTeX-mode.html#CDLaTeX-mode |
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| 17:00.09 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
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| 17:01.49 | tobiasBora | I've a problem : when I press windows key in graphical mode, it's the function "super" => Ok |
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| 17:02.12 | caraconan | Good evening. How can I know whic user is the last one that writed to a log file? I would like to know it in order to avoid 666 permissions on that file |
| 17:02.17 | tobiasBora | but when I press windows key in tty, it's the function M- ? Why |
| 17:02.59 | caraconan | Without this: Apr 30 19:03:28 mail2 postfix/pipe[5784]: 320E5184D1: to=<user@domain.com>, relay=dovecot, delay=318, delays=318/0.05/0/0.03, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (temporary failure. Command output: Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot-deliver.log: Permission denied ) |
| 17:03.06 | caraconan | and it's not dovecot |
| 17:03.31 | tobiasBora | I would like that super is call in tty. Is it possible ? Thanks |
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| 17:11.53 | N1x | gi guys, i have laptop and pc in lan when i connect with ssh to my pc from laptop, how to download pc files from laptop? |
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| 17:12.01 | N1x | same as wget or etc.. |
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| 17:12.58 | N1x | anybody help me? : ) |
| 17:13.14 | project2501b | BOXXIE IS BACK |
| 17:13.24 | project2501b | N1x: come again? |
| 17:13.31 | tobiasBora | N1x: maybe "get" ? |
| 17:13.35 | project2501b | maybe scp? |
| 17:13.47 | N1x | maybe? |
| 17:14.01 | Sose | I'd use scp myself |
| 17:14.14 | project2501b | N1x: what do you run on the pc and what do you run on the laptop? |
| 17:14.18 | project2501b | what os, even. |
| 17:15.01 | N1x | project2501b: debian on laptop, fedora on pc |
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| 17:15.46 | project2501b | N1x: man scp |
| 17:16.15 | N1x | kay O i'm trying 10x : |
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| 17:18.10 | project2501b | http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10525 |
| 17:18.11 | project2501b | <3 |
| 17:18.12 | ompaul | N1x: openssh-server working on one of them, the other one should have scp by default and you scp user@far.box:Somewhere-related-to-a-home-dir/or-a-sub-dir/foo.tar . would get you a file but you can do lots there |
| 17:18.21 | project2501b | nooooooooooooo |
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| 17:18.28 | project2501b | don't give away the solution |
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| 17:18.35 | project2501b | let him figure it out a bit |
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| 17:19.20 | ompaul | project2501b: which channel are you in, if you want to advise me what do to I'll take that elsewhere :-P |
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| 17:19.58 | project2501b | kek :D |
| 17:20.09 | project2501b | I THINK I WILL GO WORK ON LSF |
| 17:21.07 | jimcooncat | Anyone know about multiboot USB? Squeeze doesn't work like Ubuntu and others anymore, loopmount iso doesn't work for me. |
| 17:22.33 | ompaul | N1x: the most confusing part of scp is the : which is your home directory, if you wanted a file from somewhere else say .ssh/id_rsa.pub you would have :.ssh/id_rsa.pub but if you wanted /etc/openvpn/bobs-config you would then do :/etc/openvpn/bobs-config usual terms and conditions apply to permissions - you must be able to read from and write to the devices |
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| 17:22.52 | ompaul | project2501b: :-P all that free help cos you said LSF |
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| 17:25.55 | karlpinc | Nix, ompaul: ':' isn't confusing. It's presence means what comes before is a hostname. What's confusing you is that the current working directory is your home directory by default, although that does not seem confusing to me. |
| 17:26.15 | tobiasBora | I'm on tty on debian and I would like to configure the super key. |
| 17:26.30 | tobiasBora | However, when I type windows key, it's like If I press a Meta |
| 17:26.31 | tobiasBora | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:26.45 | tobiasBora | How could I use Windows key as a super key ? |
| 17:26.58 | karlpinc | !keymaps |
| 17:26.58 | dpkg | Squeeze users: Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your console and X keymap. Lenny users: Run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" to change the console keymap (use loadkeys for temporary adjustments) -- to change the X keymap, read "man xmodmap" and ask me about <xorg config lenny>; gnome-control-center and kcontrol can also be used. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
| 17:26.58 | N1x | karlpinc: and can u show me little example how to download? |
| 17:27.08 | jimcooncat | I want to upgrade my home computer from 10.10 to debian sqeeze :-) . Would I have problems using my /home? Can I try using my hd's /home with a livecd? |
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| 17:27.38 | N1x | scp remotefile user@x.x.x.x:remotefile |
| 17:27.47 | N1x | karlpinc: this is true? |
| 17:27.48 | ompaul | no |
| 17:28.05 | N1x | ? |
| 17:28.05 | ompaul | scp user@far:remotefile . <--- see the dot |
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| 17:28.13 | ompaul | copy remotefile to here |
| 17:28.18 | N1x | dot? |
| 17:28.20 | N1x | okey |
| 17:28.22 | jimcooncat | sshfs is simpler to use imho |
| 17:28.24 | ompaul | period |
| 17:28.29 | jelly-home | jimcooncat: do you mean you want to keep the same /home from "10.10" to be used on a new Debian installation? |
| 17:28.34 | karlpinc | Nix: Looksgood. |
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| 17:28.58 | jimcooncat | jelly-home, I want my preferences and docs, so I believe so. |
| 17:29.19 | karlpinc | N1x: scp filetocopy user@far: Would do fine. Put 'filetocopy' in your home dir under that name. |
| 17:29.40 | ompaul | N1x: scp localfile user@far:copy-of-localfile-now-remote |
| 17:29.57 | jimcooncat | jelly-home, I've had bad experience doing a downgrade before and finding out my .dotfiles had been messed up by the newer distro |
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| 17:30.10 | ompaul | if you want changed names (can be rather useful) |
| 17:30.22 | karlpinc | jimcooncat: That's the trick indeed. Dealing with the .files. |
| 17:30.25 | N1x | yep thanks :) |
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| 17:30.49 | jimcooncat | I need an overlay filesystem |
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| 17:31.24 | jimcooncat | cow? is that the correct term? |
| 17:31.27 | new_user | trying to build a new system. when it boots up i see 12gb of ram. using a debian live usb right now and system monitor is only showing 3.5gb of ram. wtf??? |
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| 17:32.15 | jimcooncat | new_user, using a 486 kernel? |
| 17:32.18 | karlpinc | N1x: Works just like the cp command, but with a hostname: in the path. Type "info coreutils cp" for a good writeup. (You may also want to read "info info"). |
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| 17:32.31 | ompaul | new_user: and you are using 32bit not 64 |
| 17:32.51 | new_user | ah...yes. ty |
| 17:32.54 | jimcooncat | ompaul, is there a PAE kernel new_user can use? |
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| 17:34.34 | jelly-home | jimcooncat: downgrades are always a mess. Keep a backup of your dotfiles, etc etc |
| 17:34.35 | ompaul | new_user: which version of debian have you installed? |
| 17:35.09 | jelly-home | jimcooncat: squeeze might have _some_ software older than ubuntu 10.10 |
| 17:35.11 | new_user | got a debian live usb stick with squeeze on it |
| 17:35.13 | jelly-home | !squeeze freeze |
| 17:35.15 | jimcooncat | jelly-home, maybe I should just copy into my new OS one by one |
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| 17:35.47 | jelly-home | jimcooncat: why not try it and see. |
| 17:36.09 | ompaul | new_user: if you want to mess about with 32bit install this: linux-image-686-bigmem |
| 17:36.28 | ompaul | but really you should with that much ram use 64bit it will just work better |
| 17:36.30 | new_user | would like to install 64-bit if i can |
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| 17:36.56 | ompaul | new_user: I'm not going to stop you, I guess nobody else here will either :) |
| 17:37.02 | jelly-home | jimcooncat: I've just done exactly that, copied my $HOME from testing to an experimental ubuntu installation, and now looking at what might be broken. Firefox is 4.0 which messed me up a bit. |
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| 17:37.30 | public_morozov | morning, I have openldap 2.4.23, is it possible to configure it so that outlook (2007) will show all contacts immediately after address book is opened (like exchange (i mean virtual list view))? |
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| 17:38.28 | jimcooncat | jelly-home, I'm hoping because I'm moving from gnome to xfce it won't be so bad |
| 17:38.41 | new_user | been waiting a long time to build this box. finally got it all today. still need to upgrade video card(s). right now, only have GeForce FX 5200 |
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| 17:40.06 | jimcooncat | Is there a list of where packages make their dotfiles? |
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| 17:40.48 | Hydrant | hey all... I'm trying to install slapd, and there are many options that I don't get asked unless I do dpkg-reconfigure (at which point it is too late)... how can I force a different debconf priority for one installation ? |
| 17:41.07 | jelly-home | jimcooncat: dunno, but why not backup up the whole home or at least everything ~/.* |
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| 17:41.17 | public_morozov | Hydrant it's normal |
| 17:41.51 | Hydrant | public_morozov: what in particular is normal |
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| 17:43.02 | public_morozov | Hydrant u may configure slapd by coping slapd.conf into /etc/default/slapd |
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| 17:43.49 | jimcooncat | I guess I can just compare the directories as I install stuff. Thanks jelly-home |
| 17:44.18 | Hydrant | public_morozov: well, in this case I don't want any initial setup done... an option I'm given with dpkg-reconfigure after the initial tree has been created |
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| 18:28.49 | proq | hrm. when I log into my new debian 6 install on my netbook with no ethernet plugged in, it silently kernel panics |
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| 18:30.15 | dvs | proq: It doesn't kernel panic with an ethernet connection? That's weird! |
| 18:30.24 | proq | yeah |
| 18:30.42 | dvs | unless it's a Broadcom wireless chipset |
| 18:30.52 | proq | I wonder if it tries to switch to the wireless nic and then kp |
| 18:31.05 | proq | because the driver doing something dumb |
| 18:31.08 | proq | *is doing |
| 18:31.37 | proq | hmm, on startup too... |
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| 18:45.12 | jhutchins_lt | proq: I'd do a rescue mode and see if it still panics. More likely graphics than networking. |
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| 18:46.21 | proq | I think I'm going to remove whatever wireless driver it has |
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| 18:50.31 | proq | yeah, it's broadcom :'( |
| 18:50.56 | proq | this is an acer intel atom n455 netbook |
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| 18:54.53 | magistr | Hi to all |
| 18:55.02 | a111 | Is it ok to chmod 0750 /usr/bin/ssh |
| 18:55.08 | a111 | it shouldnt break anything, should it? |
| 18:55.11 | magistr | Debian don't died |
| 18:55.15 | magistr | ? |
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| 18:56.01 | proq | yayz, my shipment of fail has been delivered |
| 18:56.48 | proq | but four weeks late |
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| 18:59.07 | proq | are there any plans in debian to make touchpads have touch-to-click enabled by default (and with the lowest setting possible)? |
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| 19:16.27 | proq | onoes, the new broadcom module I built won't insmod due to unknown symbols |
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| 19:19.02 | jahrends380 | hello |
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| 19:20.07 | simonlnu | proq: need same sources and same compiler to not get that |
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| 19:20.56 | proq | simonlnu: I installed the linux kernel headers and build the broadcom sources on the same machine as the module |
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| 19:22.31 | Janni | Hello. |
| 19:23.04 | simonlnu | proq: not what i said |
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| 19:23.48 | proq | simonlnu: which sources? which compiler? |
| 19:24.00 | lampe545 | hey i installed debian 6 and he is showing me my 2 soundcards but i dont get any sound !? |
| 19:24.05 | simonlnu | check /proc/version |
| 19:25.09 | proq | oic |
| 19:26.05 | dvs | proq: You manually downloaded the source code? |
| 19:27.19 | proq | dvs: yes |
| 19:27.50 | Janni | I'd like to disable any change of the console's video mode during startup because it causes problems with the installed video card, but I can't find out how to do it. More specifically I don't even know "who" does it. I suspect it is not the kernel... but I couldn't find anything in the init scripts? Anyone got an idea? |
| 19:27.57 | dvs | proq: http://wiki.debian.org/wl |
| 19:28.52 | proq | ok, I rebuilt with the same version of gcc and get the same error. grabbing the sources from broadcom is the wrong source version? |
| 19:29.28 | proq | nvm, looking at the wiki |
| 19:29.47 | N1x | guys i have some problem |
| 19:29.51 | qwd | lampe545: this maybe? http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ026 |
| 19:30.06 | N1x | i have laptop and when i start music speakers is working without problem |
| 19:30.25 | N1x | but when i plug headphones in port |
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| 19:30.30 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 19:30.32 | N1x | headphones dont working :/ |
| 19:30.50 | magnus__ | is there an off-topic debian channel around here? |
| 19:30.58 | qwd | magnus__: #debian-offtopic |
| 19:31.04 | magnus__ | qwd: thanks! |
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| 19:31.45 | N1x | aaany bodyhelp me? |
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| 19:32.28 | Janni | N1X: You need bodyhelp? Sorry, I'm not up to it... |
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| 19:33.04 | N1x | Janni really? : ) |
| 19:33.10 | Varotone | I have a question for you guys |
| 19:33.15 | N1x | i'm not believe u : |
| 19:33.50 | Janni | N1x: Try 'alsamixer' to see wether the volume of the headphone out of your soundcard is not 0. |
| 19:34.01 | cusco_ | or muted |
| 19:34.09 | Varotone | Just installed Squeeze and I don't know how to put my user into the sudoers file |
| 19:34.16 | Varotone | I'm quite a newb |
| 19:34.26 | cusco_ | don't need to |
| 19:34.32 | dvs | Varotone: visudo |
| 19:34.33 | cusco_ | sudoers file has the group sudo |
| 19:34.40 | qwd | !sudo |
| 19:34.40 | dpkg | [sudo] (Substitute User DO) Not enabled by default on Debian systems; configure /etc/sudoers first, ask me about <visudo>, <sudoers>. sudo can give limited super user privileges to specific users, or allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root permissions, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program". http://wiki.debian.org/sudo http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
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| 19:34.44 | N1x | Janni i checked already but nothing... |
| 19:34.44 | cusco_ | so just add your user to the sudo group |
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| 19:34.57 | Varotone | cusco_: how do I do that? |
| 19:35.01 | cusco_ | Varotone: as root: adduser cusco sudo |
| 19:35.05 | cusco_ | that would add user cusco |
| 19:35.12 | ompaul | N1x: what colour is the output for the headphones? |
| 19:35.49 | Varotone | cusco_: thanks, just figured out how to do it in user menu :) |
| 19:35.51 | N1x | ompaul: : d i'm not nooob, : ) my laptops have only one mic port |
| 19:36.11 | N1x | when i pluging headphones speakers is working |
| 19:36.27 | N1x | and sound is not in headphones |
| 19:36.50 | ompaul | N1x: did you do what people said about running alsamixer? |
| 19:37.29 | N1x | ompaul: headphones options is not in alsamixer's config.... |
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| 19:37.45 | Varotone | cusco_: it didn't change anything. I suppose it applies when I relog? |
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| 19:38.42 | project2501b | can i finish, o |
| 19:39.21 | qwd | N1x: google the model of your laptop, "headphones" and linux/debian/ubuntu. A friend of mine had a laptop with the same problem once. |
| 19:39.24 | cusco_ | Varotone: yes |
| 19:40.04 | ompaul | N1x: with alsamixer open press print screen and get an image, upload it to imagebin.com close apps you don't want us to see gimp is useful for editing the picture |
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| 19:40.55 | N1x | ompaul: i can screen exact area man : ) |
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| 19:40.57 | N1x | wait.. |
| 19:42.00 | project2501b | it's a trap! |
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| 19:46.28 | mick_home | hi everyone, I wanted to setup an xmpp server that would interact w/ other xmpp services (like gtalk), anyone know what I need to do special to have any xmpp server be able to talk to mine? |
| 19:46.37 | N1x | ompaul: http://oi54.tinypic.com/5evpqo.jpg |
| 19:46.43 | N1x | see this is my full alsa output |
| 19:46.48 | mick_home | i think by default it only auths users on your own setup |
| 19:47.07 | mick_home | so people in your db - so only your users can talk to one another |
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| 19:47.38 | mick_home | I was actually hoping to do audio/video w/ openfire + gtalk |
| 19:47.54 | qwd | mick_home: I don't but if you don't get a good answer here, join jabber@conference.jabber.org in your jabber client. |
| 19:49.27 | mick_home | i was looking at http://code.google.com/p/jinglenodes/ |
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| 19:49.56 | mick_home | but "looks for p2p media relays to send audio+video" just sounds like a really bad idea |
| 19:50.11 | mick_home | if it isn't encrypted |
| 19:50.25 | ompaul | N1x: I am not seeing an external output for a speaker so I guess you can't go the way you want atm |
| 19:50.46 | ompaul | N1x: which is why I asked you what colour it was |
| 19:51.09 | _linuxftw | Does debootstrap normally copy the /etc/motd and /etc/hostname from the host system? |
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| 19:53.25 | agasdsadsasaaaaa | do you like linux? look here: www.snowlinux.de/ |
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| 19:54.53 | pipeline | mick_home: federation is trivial with openfire |
| 19:55.03 | pipeline | mick_home: it's basically a tickbox + an optional whitelist |
| 19:55.22 | pipeline | mick_home: that said, most xmpp *clients* do a really shitty job of handling federation, so be real careful about what clients you recommend to end-users |
| 19:55.54 | pipeline | mick_home: I've found pidgin/gaim to be the best overall xmpp client, but its federation support isn't super user-friendly. Psi is a lot better about exposing wtf is going on to users, but it's not super great to use. |
| 19:56.18 | pipeline | mick_home: the official google talk fat client is probably worst of all. It's hard to tell which roster members are which clients where etc |
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| 19:56.59 | pipeline | mick_home: also support for jingle is pretty much a nightmare. Unless you have a totally controlled system (vpn + known client + known server) have fun getting that working |
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| 19:57.42 | pipeline | mick_home: in a nutshell: federation is easy to get working, but fucking useless. My recommendation would be either to use google talk 100%, or use a closed system you set up yourself 100%. Interoperability is mostly bullshit. |
| 19:57.46 | mick_home | pipeline: yes i control server + (possible vpn) + clients |
| 19:57.58 | pipeline | mick_home: then just forget about federation haha |
| 19:58.16 | mick_home | but I have one person who is a google talk user |
| 19:58.27 | pipeline | mick_home: yeah forget about him. |
| 19:58.32 | mick_home | so i figured "ah what the hell" :) |
| 19:58.34 | pipeline | mick_home: you'll never be happy with the end result. |
| 19:58.38 | mick_home | it is my wife |
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| 19:59.24 | mick_home | can't really forget about her :) |
| 19:59.28 | mick_home | pipeline: ^^ ;) |
| 19:59.47 | pipeline | mick_home: that's the ideal circumstance, seeing as that is the single person in your life over whom you presumably have the MOST influance :D |
| 20:00.02 | N1x | ompaul: my laptops had only one soundcard port... |
| 20:00.14 | mick_home | lol :) |
| 20:00.35 | N1x | and only headphone port.. |
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| 20:14.24 | axanon | is there a repo that has Unreal IRCd? I find it strange the package isn't in the default repos |
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| 20:17.27 | jelly-home | axanon: I think it might have been packaged at one point but now isn't |
| 20:17.46 | jelly-home | axanon: there are more modern ircds, it seems |
| 20:18.09 | axanon | Hmm, alright. Thanks |
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| 20:18.43 | mick_home | pipeline: ever heard of redfire? |
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| 20:18.59 | mick_home | http://code.google.com/p/redfire/ |
| 20:19.11 | t4a | how do I install a pdf reader for iceweasel? |
| 20:19.13 | pipeline | mick_home: never touched it |
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| 20:22.06 | mick_home | t4a: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pdf-download/ or the official adobe acrobat does it (don't know of a FOSS version) |
| 20:23.24 | t4a | mick_home, it seem that all that does it either downloads them, or converts them to html? |
| 20:23.32 | mick_home | t4a: for the adobe plugin: apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins |
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| 20:24.19 | mick_home | iirc it is in debian-multimedia.org |
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| 20:25.36 | mick_home | t4a: the plugin shows the pdf as html in your browser |
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| 20:26.45 | t4a | mick_home, oh, okay |
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| 20:28.04 | eflynn | what is the difference between ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc ? |
| 20:28.13 | t4a | mick_home, when I try to get the package acroread mozilla-acroread and acroread-plugins i get |
| 20:28.14 | t4a | E: Unable to locate package acroread |
| 20:28.14 | t4a | E: Unable to locate package mozilla-acroread |
| 20:28.14 | t4a | E: Unable to locate package acroread-plugins |
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| 20:30.27 | proq | dvs: awesome, wireless problem fixed. thanks |
| 20:31.03 | dvs | np |
| 20:31.33 | proq | it even has instructions for getting it to work with ratpoison. awesome |
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| 20:31.56 | jhutchins_lt | t4a: What command are you using? |
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| 20:32.16 | t4a | aptitude install acroread iceweasel-acroread acroread-plugins |
| 20:32.21 | t4a | apt-get install acroread iceweasel-acroread acroread-plugins |
| 20:32.29 | cahoot | is acroread in any debian repo? multimedia? |
| 20:32.47 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions acroread |
| 20:32.48 | judd | Package acroread on i386 -- lenny-multimedia/non-free: 9.4.1-0.1; sid-multimedia/non-free: 9.4.2-0.0; squeeze-multimedia/non-free: 9.4.2-0.0; wheezy-multimedia/non-free: 9.4.2-0.0 |
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| 20:32.59 | tuxz | ,emacs |
| 20:33.03 | tuxz | !emacs |
| 20:33.03 | dpkg | Emacs is the extensible macro editor that is already quite extensively extended. A popular editor choice with major and minor modes for almost every conceivable language and task. High priests of emacs have even been known to use emacs as their shell, and sometimes have whole systems with init=/usr/bin/emacs. [Escape Meta Alt Control Shift] http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs http://emacswiki.org/ #emacs on irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:33.29 | mick_home | t4a: do you have the debian-multimedia repository setup? |
| 20:33.37 | jhutchins_lt | t4a: I've never needed the Adobe software on linux, xpdf, kpdf, and whatever the new thing on kde4 is have done the job just fine. |
| 20:33.49 | mick_home | oh yeah it was iceweasel |
| 20:33.53 | mick_home | forgot :) |
| 20:34.11 | t4a | jhutchins_lt, how do I get those to work in iceweasel |
| 20:34.29 | proq | wow, that's a very long, odd description of emacs the text editor, ide and lisp playground :/ |
| 20:34.37 | jhutchins_lt | Dunn9o, they just work for me. Let me see. Which release are you on? |
| 20:34.58 | jhutchins_lt | evince is the new thing. |
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| 20:35.33 | t4a | of iceweasel? 3.5.16 |
| 20:35.42 | cusco_ | yea the other day I thought I was using xpdf and was using vince instead |
| 20:35.58 | jhutchins_lt | It's not in applications. |
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| 20:36.07 | jhutchins_lt | t4a: I meant which relese of debian. |
| 20:36.11 | t4a | Oh, then you haven't read my question |
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| 20:36.31 | t4a | how do I install a pdf reader for iceweasel? |
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| 20:37.01 | jhutchins_lt | Got a URL for a PDF? |
| 20:37.01 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 20:37.16 | t4a | sure |
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| 20:37.21 | acx0 | I installed debian testing on a usb flash drive and I was wondering if it would be possible to install all the non-free wifi firmware packages - would debian detect and load the proper ones based on the machine i'm using? |
| 20:37.31 | daemonkeeper | The non free Adobe PDF reader installs a browser plugin |
| 20:37.33 | t4a | http://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/R-intro.pdf |
| 20:37.37 | jhutchins_lt | t4a: No, I was asking which release of debian you were on, so I know which PDF readers are the default. Also, what DE? |
| 20:37.38 | daemonkeeper | I'm not aware of free solutions. |
| 20:37.56 | cusco_ | t4a: if you're using acroread mozilla-acroread |
| 20:38.01 | jhutchins_lt | okular |
| 20:38.12 | jhutchins_lt | It asks me what to open the file with. |
| 20:38.26 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins_lt: That's another thing though. |
| 20:38.34 | jhutchins_lt | Default on my kde4 desktop (Squeeze) is okular. |
| 20:38.37 | acx0 | jhutchins, the default pdf viewer in GNOME is evince if you're wondering |
| 20:38.37 | dfgd | t4a, maybe google docs ? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-docs-viewer-pdf-doc-doc/ |
| 20:38.49 | jhutchins_lt | daemonkeeper: He's looking for an in-browser solution? |
| 20:38.50 | cusco_ | dfgd: I use that :) |
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| 20:39.06 | cusco_ | and am happy about it |
| 20:39.07 | t4a | Linux debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 12 03:40:32 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 20:39.08 | webad_13 | is it possilbe to speed up scp by making multiple connections to the server - p2p style? |
| 20:39.10 | t4a | Gnome |
| 20:39.13 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins_lt: Yes, an embedded PDF viewer, like Adobe has on Windows (and non free on Linux) |
| 20:39.22 | jhutchins_lt | We'll assume squeeze then. |
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| 20:39.50 | t4a | oh, sorry, i didn't realize it didn't display that. Yes it is Squeeze |
| 20:40.12 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins_lt: Adobe instals a plugin for Mozilla browsers which allows to display PDF within the browser itself as plugin. I guess this is, what t4a wants. |
| 20:40.18 | daemonkeeper | *installs |
| 20:40.27 | t4a | dfgd, I tried that and it failed to load quite a few pdf files |
| 20:40.34 | cusco_ | http://machine-cycle.blogspot.com/2008/06/iceweasel-plugins-and-add-ons-oh-my.html |
| 20:41.36 | cusco_ | I still like dfgd's option |
| 20:41.37 | jhutchins_lt | t4a: iceweasel Tools, Add-Ons, Get Add-Ons, search pdf - Google's viewer is on the ifrst page. |
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| 20:42.28 | t4a | <t4a> dfgd, I tried that and it failed to load quite a few pdf files |
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| 20:42.40 | t4a | @ jhutchins_lt |
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| 20:42.51 | jhutchins_lt | 83 results. |
| 20:43.10 | jhutchins_lt | Including gpdf, which sets it as the default for files. |
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| 20:43.30 | jhutchins_lt | t4a: Pasetebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please. |
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| 20:44.11 | owen1 | i am tired of punching my password every time. do u guys change the time the password is saved? or do u add the user to 'sudo' group? |
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| 20:44.32 | daemonkeeper | (for the record: apt-cache policy is more useful in times of /etc/apt/sources.list.d) |
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| 20:45.06 | public_morozov | I have openldap 2.4.23, is it possible to configure it so that outlook (2007) will show all contacts immediately after address book is opened (like exchange (i mean virtual list view))? |
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| 20:45.24 | t4a | http://pastebin.com/v6ZHiCSM |
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| 21:16.50 | ScottG | When I try to log in to a tty I get the error "Unable to cd to '/home/scott/" What could be causing this? |
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| 21:17.26 | sweb | hello i'm ubuntu user, want to use debian wich version recommend me to use for desktop |
| 21:17.27 | sweb | ? |
| 21:18.10 | MeglaW | stable |
| 21:18.28 | sweb | MeglaW, 5 or 6 ? |
| 21:19.40 | tensorpudding | sweb: install stable |
| 21:20.06 | sweb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:21.34 | qwd | sweb: yes, and the website makes it pretty clear so you don't need to worry about getting an old version. |
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| 21:27.43 | IamTrying | I want to do some X setup, from empty window to reshape how i want. Can i just simply install the latest debian.iso ? But how on "startx" just have empty screen |
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| 21:29.06 | Bushmills | sounds good. now reshape how you want |
| 21:29.47 | IamTrying | Bushmills, kiosk i have to prepare |
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| 21:31.56 | cusco_ | ScottG: permissions could be the problem |
| 21:32.00 | cusco_ | on that dir |
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| 21:35.19 | ScottG | cusco_: /home and /home/scott both are 755 |
| 21:36.28 | cusco_ | well after the error you're still logged in right? can you cd into /home/scott ? |
| 21:36.39 | cusco_ | check ownership too |
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| 21:41.27 | ScottG | cusco_: And no after the error it goes back to the login prompt |
| 21:41.50 | ScottG | cusco_: I can manually cd into /home/scott |
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| 21:42.03 | ScottG | I'm going to try to redo my restore so I will be back if I have problems |
| 21:42.47 | cusco_ | goes back to the prompt? |
| 21:42.52 | owen1 | i have a project that use gitosis. how can i switch it to use gitolite? |
| 21:42.55 | cusco_ | thats weird |
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| 21:44.31 | sweb | 6.0.1a is last stable version ? |
| 21:47.10 | bst | yes sweb |
| 21:47.35 | sweb | bst, worc 'a' not mean alpha is that true? |
| 21:47.40 | sweb | word* |
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| 21:49.42 | bst | install and enjoy :) |
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| 22:06.54 | deadbeef | GUYS, gnome 3 on debian wheezy ; should i go for it or is it still too early ? |
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| 22:12.40 | allu2 | deadbeef: well i tried it few weeks back and got things pretty bad broken |
| 22:12.55 | deadbeef | ah ok i'm waiting it to get its way to the repo |
| 22:12.56 | deadbeef | thanks |
| 22:12.59 | allu2 | but well i get kinda eveyrhint break down quite badly |
| 22:13.19 | allu2 | after breaking gnome i installed kde and managed to get it broken till next morning so.. |
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| 22:13.26 | deadbeef | good job |
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| 22:16.08 | allu2 | deadbeef: heh, i managed to get puppy linux kernel panic on boot, and i reinstall my OS almost weekly best days i have used debian in morning, ubuntu during the day crunchbang at night and moved to debian till morning |
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| 22:22.39 | comradekingu | allu2: Are you doing some kind of testing? |
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| 22:24.12 | Kylix | Hi! I've installed debian on a Seagate Dockstar |
| 22:24.32 | Kylix | after a power loss ... it doesn't boot Debian installed on a pendrive |
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| 22:24.56 | Kylix | how could I fix it without reinstalling all? |
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| 23:02.33 | xian | Hi, I'm looking for a program that can write text on my Xserver's screen. I know something like that exists, but I can't come up with its name. |
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| 23:03.36 | allu2 | xian: hum? you need text editor? |
| 23:03.49 | allu2 | ah |
| 23:03.52 | allu2 | misunderstood |
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| 23:04.23 | dynamite | Hey all. I need to view a harddrives serial number to be able to tell the datacenter which faulty drive to remove. how do i view it? |
| 23:04.31 | allu2 | xian: xian i used to use DISPLAY=:0.0 and run dialog program in xterm |
| 23:05.38 | dynamite | hdparm seems to fail |
| 23:05.56 | dynamite | /dev/sda: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: No message of desired type |
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| 23:06.09 | dynamite | there must be something wrong with the drive, right? cause sdb shows... |
| 23:07.03 | xian | allu2: That's not quite what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a way to write on the screen (eg like conky) but only simple strings. |
| 23:07.23 | Bushmills | xian: root-tail |
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| 23:08.10 | Bushmills | append text which you want to have displayed to tailed text file |
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| 23:08.20 | jelly-home | dynamite: well the (dead?) drive might not be responding to any ATA commands |
| 23:08.47 | Bushmills | xian: or convert text to image, load as background |
| 23:09.16 | dynamite | jelly-home: looks like it. only recognized it as the mdraid failed |
| 23:09.27 | dynamite | jelly-home: ill just give the guys the other drives SN |
| 23:10.46 | xian | Bushmills: Thanks, root-tail looks great. |
| 23:10.47 | allu2 | xian: well if i remember righ conky reads the conf on every refresh so you can add text in to it :P |
| 23:11.03 | allu2 | ah you found better solution :D |
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| 23:12.13 | jelly-home | dynamite: sometimes you need to write down and store part numbers and serial numbers _before_ the hw dies |
| 23:12.30 | xian | Yes, conky was just an example to illustrate what kind of thing I am trying to do. |
| 23:12.45 | dynamite | jelly-home: thanks for the kind advice... |
| 23:13.50 | jelly-home | dynamite: it's worse when you buy "enterprise" hardware and you assume there will be a way to remotely read out the numbers |
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| 23:23.27 | ws2k3 | i'm trying to kill a proces by name |
| 23:23.35 | ws2k3 | but why i cant use spaced in the pkill -f command? |
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| 23:24.19 | macrobat | try escaping spaces with \ |
| 23:24.42 | ws2k3 | how u mean |
| 23:24.42 | macrobat | or use "" '' around it |
| 23:24.43 | Riviera | ws2k3: you can |
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| 23:25.00 | macrobat | around the whole name, i mean |
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| 23:25.22 | ws2k3 | yeah i tryed |
| 23:25.26 | macrobat | you place \ before a space to make it lose its original meaning |
| 23:25.28 | ws2k3 | but i still dont find the proces running |
| 23:25.40 | Riviera | ws2k3: hehe, that's the purpose, isn't it? |
| 23:25.49 | Soothsayer | after you make a change to /etc/hosts, what do you have to do to reflect it? I added "127.0.0.1 webly.lh" to it. |
| 23:26.01 | ws2k3 | no lol |
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| 23:26.17 | ws2k3 | when i uses spaces in the name with "" around the name it still dont find the proces. |
| 23:26.18 | Riviera | ws2k3: you don't kill processes to start them, usually |
| 23:26.20 | ws2k3 | byt name |
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| 23:26.40 | Riviera | ah, "it" you meant when you said "i" ) |
| 23:26.42 | Riviera | :) |
| 23:27.01 | ws2k3 | yeah |
| 23:27.19 | ws2k3 | i wanne do for testing pgrep -l "my proces name with spaces" |
| 23:28.38 | macrobat | i'm happy just with htop for killing processes |
| 23:29.40 | ws2k3 | can that kill proces by name? |
| 23:30.56 | dynamite | killall |
| 23:31.01 | ws2k3 | haha |
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| 23:31.11 | dynamite | ? |
| 23:31.13 | ChronicSyncope | why should i use debian instead of arch? |
| 23:31.14 | dynamite | not joking |
| 23:31.14 | ws2k3 | then all my proceses die no that not what i want |
| 23:31.18 | dynamite | killall -r <regex> |
| 23:31.37 | ws2k3 | how u mean |
| 23:31.42 | ws2k3 | can i uses spaces in that |
| 23:31.48 | dynamite | Regular Expression, young pdadwan |
| 23:31.52 | dynamite | padawan* |
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| 23:32.25 | ws2k3 | it sad no proces found but it has kill the proces i would like. |
| 23:33.06 | dynamite | ws2k3: ?! |
| 23:33.15 | dynamite | Do you know what regular expressios are? |
| 23:33.19 | dynamite | expresisons* |
| 23:33.25 | ws2k3 | i did killall -r python kill.py |
| 23:33.38 | dynamite | that only partially answers my question. |
| 23:33.40 | ws2k3 | it sad kill.py proces not found and it killed all python proceses |
| 23:33.40 | dynamite | so you dont. |
| 23:33.55 | ws2k3 | depend on ur meaning |
| 23:33.57 | dynamite | ws2k3: read up about regular expressions. |
| 23:34.02 | dynamite | no, theres no misunderstanding |
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| 23:34.08 | Arrowmaster | you need to either escape the space or quote the string |
| 23:34.11 | dynamite | killall -r <REGULAR EXPRESSION OF YOUR PROCESSES> |
| 23:34.21 | ws2k3 | just with <> ? |
| 23:34.25 | dynamite | .. |
| 23:34.25 | ws2k3 | or u mean "" ? |
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| 23:34.30 | dynamite | neither? |
| 23:34.50 | ws2k3 | like i sad i did killal -r python kill.py |
| 23:34.58 | dynamite | your point beeing? |
| 23:35.06 | ws2k3 | that i did what ur saying |
| 23:35.07 | Arrowmaster | try killall kill.py |
| 23:35.14 | ws2k3 | i try to kill python kill.py 1.1.1.1 28961 for example. |
| 23:35.17 | dynamite | Arrowmaster: stop spoonfeeding :D |
| 23:35.25 | Arrowmaster | dynamite: stop confusing him |
| 23:35.31 | dynamite | ?! in what way? |
| 23:35.51 | Arrowmaster | even regular expressions need to be escaped if they have spaces |
| 23:36.01 | dynamite | and? i never said they did not? |
| 23:36.02 | ws2k3 | kill.py that it kills all the kill.py script i only wanne kill specific procese like proses name python kill.py 1.1.1.1 28961 |
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| 23:36.18 | dynamite | kill -9PID |
| 23:36.20 | dynamite | kill -9 PID |
| 23:36.25 | ws2k3 | by name* |
| 23:36.30 | jelly-home | Arrowmaster: the process will still be python. pkill -f is the easiest way to kill based on a substring match |
| 23:36.44 | dynamite | or that way |
| 23:36.48 | ws2k3 | i know but pkill -f fails on spaces. |
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| 23:36.57 | dynamite | escaped? |
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| 23:36.59 | jelly-home | ws2k3: quote the whole thing |
| 23:37.00 | ws2k3 | if i can get around that that would be great |
| 23:37.15 | beardy | Don't use spaces in filenames. |
| 23:37.16 | jelly-home | eg. pkill -f 'kill.py 1.1.1.1 28961' |
| 23:37.18 | ws2k3 | u mean pkill -f "python kill.py 1.1.1.1 28961" ? |
| 23:37.31 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:37.32 | jelly-home | ws2k3: if that works, the better |
| 23:37.46 | ws2k3 | o sjall try |
| 23:37.55 | jelly-home | ws2k3: use pgrep instead of pkill to see if anything matches |
| 23:38.27 | jelly-home | when you're reasonably sure you're catching only the correct process, go back to pkill |
| 23:38.56 | jelly-home | beardy: this is a "don't use spaces in *argv" |
| 23:39.57 | ws2k3 | hmm now i still need to get that in pyp:D |
| 23:39.59 | ws2k3 | php:D |
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| 23:41.20 | ws2k3 | cause my rule = shell_exec("pkill -f "python kill.py $ip $port"") |
| 23:41.24 | ws2k3 | so its not gonne like that |
| 23:42.03 | jelly-home | blinks |
| 23:42.03 | Riviera | funny quoting |
| 23:42.36 | ws2k3 | :D |
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| 23:42.46 | jelly-home | ws2k3: ##php is that way --> |
| 23:43.04 | ws2k3 | i know:D |
| 23:43.12 | ws2k3 | thanks guys |
| 23:43.16 | dynamite | yw |
| 23:43.46 | jelly-home | doesn't want to know why there is a php script to pkill a python script called kill.py |
| 23:44.26 | dynamite | (: bet you dont |
| 23:44.35 | dynamite | one nasty gameserver administration console :D |
| 23:44.40 | dynamite | tenner on that. |
| 23:44.56 | beardy | Probably running gentoo. |
| 23:45.10 | dynamite | lol |
| 23:45.16 | dynamite | experience level would let one think. |
| 23:45.48 | ws2k3 | haha no running debian |
| 23:46.04 | ws2k3 | yeah it a nasty gameserver administration console |
| 23:46.11 | dynamite | TENDOLLARSPLX |
| 23:46.13 | dynamite | :D |
| 23:46.36 | dynamite | with shell_exec |
| 23:46.39 | dynamite | reasonably safe |
| 23:47.17 | ws2k3 | ist it? |
| 23:47.35 | dynamite | you may keep the found irony |
| 23:47.50 | ws2k3 | :D |
| 23:48.06 | dynamite | ofcourse its not |
| 23:48.27 | dynamite | such a script always leaves room for third people running arbitrary commands on your machine |
| 23:49.20 | justin_ | ws2k3: yeah, that is most definitely not even close to the correct way to accomplish what you are trying to do |
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| 23:49.38 | dynamite | aww justin_ why spoil all the fun |
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| 23:50.51 | ws2k3 | justin i know |
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| 23:53.59 | moele | is it generally normal for a hard drive to have "some" bad sectors? |
| 23:54.02 | moele | or is that a sign of failure |
| 23:54.27 | moele | or could the bad sectors be misunderstood as poor partitioning or other such things |
| 23:54.37 | dynamite | how do you partition "poor"? |
| 23:55.31 | moele | by creating partitions in the middle of the table |
| 23:55.39 | moele | lol |
| 23:55.45 | moele | meh id unno :) |
| 23:55.47 | moele | its just a question |
| 23:56.16 | dynamite | well, i wouldnt say its common |
| 23:56.18 | dynamite | i would worry |
| 23:56.25 | dynamite | re-check |
| 23:56.30 | dynamite | and try fsck |
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