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| 00:05.40 | moele | is there a good wiki article on installing wine? I understand the version of wine in apt rep, is kinda outdated |
| 00:07.23 | rich0_ | i think winehq has a debian repo |
| 00:07.39 | dsockwell | they do |
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| 00:09.10 | moele | ya but its ancient and for unstable |
| 00:09.12 | moele | i believe |
| 00:09.26 | dsockwell | worked fine for me |
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| 00:10.17 | moele | the sid packages worked fine for you on sid? |
| 00:10.21 | moele | or squeeze even |
| 00:11.54 | dsockwell | uh i retract that, idk what i did |
| 00:11.58 | dsockwell | i'd have to go home and look |
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| 00:27.37 | dagnachewa | hi all |
| 00:27.40 | dagnachewa | please help me with skype and alsa, in skype I have only pulseaudio as choice for devices |
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| 00:29.19 | tonsofpcs | hi |
| 00:29.30 | dagnachewa | please help me with skype and alsa, in skype I have only pulseaudio as choice for devices |
| 00:29.31 | metalfan_ | whats the default lenny kernel package called? kernel-image list only a bunch of amd64 kernels |
| 00:30.01 | metalfan_ | dagnachewa, pulseaudio sits on top of alsa and makes more advanced things possible |
| 00:30.09 | stew | metalfan_: linux-image-$arch |
| 00:30.58 | dvs | linux-image-2.6-$arch |
| 00:30.59 | Black_Prince | linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 |
| 00:31.13 | BlackFate | dagnachewa, user pavucontrol to select your output and input source |
| 00:31.22 | BlackFate | s/user/use/ |
| 00:31.22 | metalfan_ | is $arch x64 in case of a intel q6600 ? |
| 00:31.33 | stew | metalfan_: amd64 or i386 |
| 00:31.46 | metalfan_ | is there no intel x64? |
| 00:32.02 | stew | metalfan_: yes, it would be amd64 |
| 00:32.14 | metalfan_ | why is it then called amd? |
| 00:32.32 | Black_Prince | metalfan_ uname -a ? |
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| 00:32.39 | stew | metalfan_: its called amd64 for the amd64 instruction set that intel x86-64 cpus run |
| 00:32.49 | Bushmills | !amd64 |
| 00:32.49 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running i386 Debian with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. core2duo machines are AMD64. See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>. |
| 00:32.49 | kenken345 | I have a question |
| 00:32.55 | kenken345 | i have a question |
| 00:33.04 | metalfan_ | stew, ah. didnt know that |
| 00:33.05 | Black_Prince | !ask |
| 00:33.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 00:33.24 | kenken345 | WILL ATT EXCHANGE ME PHONES IF I HAVE HAD IT OVER 30 DAYS? |
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| 00:33.48 | metalfan_ | kenken345, wrong channel. what you want is google and a new brain |
| 00:33.55 | stew | kenken345: wrong channel, this channel is for debian end-user support only. you could try #freenode for general help. you'll want to turn off caps lock |
| 00:34.07 | kenken345 | idk where that is |
| 00:34.20 | simonlnu | you do /join #freenode |
| 00:35.00 | kenken345 | ok thanks! |
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| 00:36.33 | khaleel5000 | hi guys on squeeze, can i use my modem as a telephone ? (make and receive calls if i connect phone wire in it?) in debian? [few years back i remember having a prog in winblos -though had different system) that allowed this facility |
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| 00:37.19 | orzo | anyone here advocate "kibibyte" for 1024 bytes and "kilobyte" for 1000 bytes? |
| 00:37.31 | stew | orzo: sure |
| 00:37.31 | metalfan_ | Black_Prince, you were right. the only thing missing was a kernel file starting with vmlinuz-.. |
| 00:37.42 | khaleel5000 | current system hp dv5 |
| 00:37.44 | stew | khaleel5000: not unless you happen to have one of the 2 or 3 modems that is supported by vgetty or something |
| 00:37.46 | orzo | stew, sure, as in you already understand teh terms that way? |
| 00:38.08 | khaleel5000 | stew: ok ,thanks |
| 00:38.09 | orzo | ive been using "kilobyte" for 1024 bytes since forever |
| 00:38.25 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 00:38.35 | stew | orzo: i'm not sure what you are asking there. I understand the difference between a kibibyte and kilobyte for sure |
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| 00:39.06 | stew | orzo: and sure, lots of people have used kilobyte for 1024, but how long before that has kilo always meant 1000? |
| 00:39.36 | orzo | i dont oppose it in principle |
| 00:39.49 | orzo | just in practice will find it hard to retrain |
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| 00:41.02 | orzo | if it werent for sneaky hd manufactuerers, the SI terms would have been unambiguous for bits and bytes |
| 00:41.32 | orzo | regardless of their base-10 meaning more generally |
| 00:42.06 | stew | and if it weren't for early computer scientists deciding to rewrite the meaning of kilo in the first place, we wouldn't be here... |
| 00:42.07 | orzo | it was just a way to pad their numbers |
| 00:42.47 | orzo | stew, its a principle of computer science in language construction ... keep reserved words few |
| 00:42.52 | orzo | heh |
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| 00:43.07 | jhutchins_lt | In my experience, if you have to worry about how the manufacturer is counting bytes, you're too close to the limit anyway. |
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| 00:45.36 | Algo | why use Debian over Ubuntu? |
| 00:46.37 | stew | Algo: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 00:46.55 | orzo | Algo, there is more packages and a different (possibly preferable) release methodology |
| 00:47.17 | comradekingu | Different philosophy |
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| 00:47.27 | stew | or choose it because a lot of the non-free packages in ubuntu are missing in debian |
| 00:47.31 | orzo | Algo, also debian is a democratic org where ubuntu is a dictatorship (as i understand it anyway) |
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| 00:48.09 | Algo | orzo: dictatorship how? |
| 00:49.40 | comradekingu | Algo: Its a corporate entity first, community second |
| 00:49.59 | stew | Algo: its run by a corporation that makes the decisions. debian has a more democratic structure |
| 00:50.15 | orzo | im just refering to the Canonical Ltd. that makes final dicions on the direction and so on |
| 00:50.20 | stew | debian still has people in the position to make decisions, but they can always be overridden by a vote of one kind or another |
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| 00:51.17 | Algo | comradekingu: I wouldn't call it corporate...I mean, it has a SADFL. |
| 00:51.30 | Algo | It's primary goal is not to make money as I understand it |
| 00:51.38 | Algo | It's more like a non-profit |
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| 00:51.46 | Algo | It's definitely less corporate than say, RedHat or SuSE. |
| 00:52.16 | orzo | "In a Guardian interview in May 2008, Mark Shuttleworth said that the Canonical business model was service provision and explained that Canonical was not yet close to profitability. Canonical also claimed it will wait for the business to turn into a profitable one within another 3 to 5 years. ..." |
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| 00:53.49 | orzo | profit or not, its still not a grassroots sort of organization like debian |
| 00:53.55 | Algo | orzo: Right, but their primary goal is not profit. |
| 00:54.11 | orzo | anyway, you are familiar with this stuff i guess |
| 00:54.24 | Algo | orzo: Their primary goal is to create a linux distribution which can be widely used. |
| 00:54.59 | Algo | orzo: I totally agree with that |
| 00:55.02 | Algo | If they happen to make a profit from that, that's fine. |
| 00:55.15 | orzo | algo, i dont like the way they seem to go about it |
| 00:55.20 | orzo | but whatever |
| 00:55.42 | Algo | orzo: But to imply that Canonical is some cold, faceless corporate entity is to perform a disservice. |
| 00:55.53 | stew | this has really gotten off-topic |
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| 00:56.27 | orzo | algo, do you want debian to be abandoned in favor of a cannonical distro? |
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| 00:57.31 | orzo | i imagine ubuntu could exist as simply another compatible apt repository plus a custom installer |
| 00:57.33 | Algo | orzo: No, of course not |
| 00:58.25 | orzo | i would prefer that |
| 00:59.20 | Algo | orzo: You're telling me that Canonical will be more prone to ignoring the wants and needs of their community and userbase. |
| 00:59.32 | orzo | they're ignoring me obviously |
| 01:00.24 | Algo | orzo: As opposed to a "grassroots" distribution such as Debian. |
| 01:00.53 | orzo | i did use ubuntu for a while |
| 01:01.03 | orzo | went back to debian after a few upgrades |
| 01:01.43 | orzo | mainly because the upgrade proccess seemed inconvenient |
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| 01:02.13 | Algo | orzo: can we continue in Debian-offtopic? |
| 01:02.35 | orzo | certainly |
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| 01:15.41 | metalfan_ | in the upgrade process from lenny to squeeze i stumbled upon /etc/init.d/fixudev - this is a script my hoster installed, first line reads: remove fixed relation between MAC address and name of network device (00:15:f2:90:3e:a0 -> eth0) why would they do that? |
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| 01:37.57 | ecc | metalfan_: by default udev creates persistent net rules so the same MAC address gets the same eth#. But if your MAC changes, you'll get a different ethN each time, which can break your networking setup. |
| 01:38.05 | jhutchins_lt | metalfan_: There are reasons to let it float. |
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| 01:40.33 | LiENUS | huzzah now my debian box is up and secured |
| 01:40.40 | LiENUS | now to do the ton of work of moving like 90000 sites over |
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| 01:41.28 | jhutchins_lt | LiENUS: Oh that's fun. Go rsync. |
| 01:41.40 | jhutchins_lt | LiENUS: Seriously? 90K |
| 01:41.42 | jhutchins_lt | ? |
| 01:41.48 | LiENUS | jhutchins_lt, no more like 9 |
| 01:42.44 | CyL | Evening folks, I am enabling some compiz effects, and when enabling desktop cube reflection and deformation I get it cylinder shaped, not matter how I set the options under Deformation tabs. I believe this may be a bug, would someone please help me here? |
| 01:43.32 | jhutchins_lt | CyL: Dude, the whole point of compiz is to mess with your head. You're getting bonus overtime! |
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| 01:44.22 | CyL | jthomas_sb_: Lol, I prefer when the computer obeys me... |
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| 01:45.01 | LiENUS | i think compiz is specifically programmed to disobey you |
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| 01:45.56 | CyL | To be honest, this is the first time I am having such issues |
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| 01:57.55 | B3rz3rk3r | CyL is it related to your number of workspaces perhaps? |
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| 01:59.14 | LiENUS | rofl i forgot how bare a debian install is |
| 01:59.27 | LiENUS | i dont get how a web/ssh server install takes up 700mb |
| 01:59.40 | CyL | B3rz3rk3r: I'm not sure, I always have 4 workspaces... do I have any reason to believe this is related to this particular number? |
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| 02:00.16 | jhutchins_lt | Apparent netsplit. |
| 02:00.16 | mahir256 | LiENUS: people can fit the essential server packages in a cd |
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| 02:00.25 | mahir256 | no surprise |
| 02:00.35 | LiENUS | mahir256, i dont get how it installs to a whole 700mb lol |
| 02:00.40 | jhutchins_lt | I always cut it back to two VD's, I seldom use the feature. |
| 02:00.59 | jhutchins_lt | LiENUS: 4G. |
| 02:01.05 | LiENUS | 4g what? |
| 02:01.26 | B3rz3rk3r | CyL cube never worked right unless i had 4+ workspaces, was just checkin. |
| 02:01.40 | jhutchins_lt | 4GB standard Linux install, several distros. |
| 02:01.54 | LiENUS | jhutchins_lt, my debian web/ssh server installed in 700mb |
| 02:02.14 | LiENUS | currently used 755mb i've installed lftp and alpine and removed portmap |
| 02:02.26 | jhutchins_lt | LiENUS: Good for you. Is that relevant unless you're on a gumstick or wallwart? |
| 02:02.36 | mahir256 | LiENUS: most server oses don't come with too many 'desktop' packages. they are meant purely for servers and in some cases they even lack X. |
| 02:02.37 | LiENUS | just surprised its all the way up to 755mb for so little lol |
| 02:02.47 | jhutchins_lt | \ |
| 02:02.58 | LiENUS | probably tons of packages i dont need/want though |
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| 02:03.15 | LiENUS | only removed portmap because first thing i did was nmap the server |
| 02:03.31 | LiENUS | pretty sure i wont be needing rpc |
| 02:03.50 | ectospasm | I'm running sqeeze, and I'd like to install a package that's only available in sid (keepass). Is there an easy way to get that package in apt, or am I out of luck? I can download a deb and install with dpkg... |
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| 02:03.52 | jhutchins_lt | 26G for multisite commercial server. |
| 02:04.19 | jhutchins_lt | /w +10y archival content. |
| 02:04.23 | ectospasm | portmap is used by NFS |
| 02:04.49 | jhutchins_lt | How little you use just says how little you do. |
| 02:05.07 | jhutchins_lt | (I am very small.) |
| 02:05.11 | LiENUS | ectospasm, and i dont use nfs |
| 02:05.11 | mahir256 | ectospasm: you're better off just getting the deb |
| 02:05.21 | ectospasm | mahir256: thanks. |
| 02:05.34 | LiENUS | jhutchins_lt, this is the initial install i havent coppied any sites over yet |
| 02:05.42 | stew | LiENUS: i end up with portmap on servers because I usually use apachetop eventually |
| 02:05.54 | LiENUS | stew, and if i need it i'm sure apt will auto fetch it |
| 02:06.15 | CyL | B3rz3rk3r: thanks for the tip |
| 02:06.19 | LiENUS | for now i dont though |
| 02:06.25 | B3rz3rk3r | CyL did that do the trick? |
| 02:06.39 | LiENUS | ah this is why its 755 mb |
| 02:06.56 | LiENUS | libpng libreadline libsasl libsqlsomething |
| 02:06.58 | LiENUS | all those heh |
| 02:07.11 | B3rz3rk3r | LiENUS you could always just grab the barebones CLI net install and just grab the stuff you wanted if space is an issue? |
| 02:07.12 | LiENUS | gcc-xx-base |
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| 02:07.20 | LiENUS | B3rz3rk3r, its not just surprised by it |
| 02:07.26 | LiENUS | those things are all nice to have on a webserver |
| 02:07.27 | B3rz3rk3r | ah ok |
| 02:07.36 | CyL | B3rz3rk3r: Nope, bu thnks anyway :) |
| 02:07.37 | B3rz3rk3r | indeed |
| 02:07.47 | B3rz3rk3r | CyL lol np |
| 02:07.47 | LiENUS | and likely will autoinstall themselves when i install php |
| 02:07.51 | LiENUS | and later mysql |
| 02:08.04 | LiENUS | just changed a lot from the days i did my first slackware install |
| 02:09.15 | jhutchins_lt | Having a development environment on a public server is just so absolutely wrong... |
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| 02:10.09 | jhutchins_lt | Ooh, look look, a back door. GCC! 0wnd! |
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| 02:13.04 | jhutchins_lt | LiENUS: Yeah, I had a laptop with a ~4.5G disk and couldn't upgrade it to a modern release (different distro). |
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| 02:17.32 | phix | hey, when I type in df it lists my LVM LVs as /dev/dm-0, /dev/dm-1, etc... How do I change this behaviour so it either displays it like /dev/mapper/vg-lv or /dev/vg/lv? |
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| 02:21.44 | LiENUS | jhutchins_lt, not necescarily dev sure but sometimes its helpful to compile |
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| 02:25.40 | User_007 | Hello, |
| 02:26.00 | mahir256 | yes... |
| 02:27.03 | User_007 | I have installed Squeeze ARM on a small system and i have installed mysql and lighttpd in order to install drupal6. (since drupal6 depends httpd what is provided by lighttpd) |
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| 02:27.28 | mahir256 | okay... |
| 02:27.45 | User_007 | but if i try installing drupal6 it don't acept to install without apache |
| 02:28.30 | jelly-home | phix: not easily (I never bothered to try -- Debian's lvm2 support puts symlinks in /dev/mapper/ and /dev/vgname/ which might be the cause) |
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| 02:29.37 | jelly-home | phix: if it's annoying you too much, you can munge /etc/mtab after mounting |
| 02:29.39 | User_007 | but i am trying to avoid apache and use lighttpd. Why does apt wants apache for drupal6 if i already have lighttpd (what provides httpd)? |
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| 02:30.18 | mahir256 | just get apache! i'm sure drupal was made for more advanced machines |
| 02:30.25 | jelly-home | User_007: are you using aptitude to install it? |
| 02:30.52 | stew | User_007: because drupal6 depends on php5 which depends on libapache2-mod-php5 | php5-cgi ; since you don't have either it picks the first which depends on apache2 |
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| 02:31.35 | stew | User_007: so tell it to try to find a solution involving php5-cgi |
| 02:32.36 | gnusosa | exity |
| 02:32.37 | gnusosa | exit |
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| 02:36.32 | jhutchins_lt | LiENUS: Compile on a non-production server. A DE on an exposed server is a major security violation. |
| 02:36.51 | stew | violation! |
| 02:37.11 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: it's also quite convenient |
| 02:37.16 | LiENUS | DE? |
| 02:37.26 | dvs | development environment |
| 02:37.27 | stew | if someone has gotten far enough into your system to run gcc, you already lost |
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| 02:37.39 | jelly-home | I let my users run gcc. |
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| 02:37.59 | LiENUS | i think most hosting servers that give shell access include gcc |
| 02:38.08 | LiENUS | in case of library version mismatches things like that |
| 02:38.19 | LiENUS | maybe they can't get access to a development box running the exact same software |
| 02:38.25 | jhutchins_lt | User_007: Right, Drupal runs on apache. Making it run on lighthttpd is a major exercise in system management. Don't. Run apache. |
| 02:40.11 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-home: No, a development environment on an exposed, public server is absolutely against best practices. |
| 02:40.48 | stew | because you worry that someone can get source code to the box and run gcc but they can't just get a pre-compiled binary to the box and run that? |
| 02:40.55 | jhutchins_lt | if you must compile code for a public server, it must be done on an unexposed test server. |
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| 02:41.34 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: try telling that to students that want to build misc. bits and pieces |
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| 02:41.56 | LiENUS | jhutchins_lt, why do you consider it a security violation? |
| 02:42.03 | jhutchins_lt | Who are the vast field of available target servers. |
| 02:42.18 | jelly-home | it's a nice theory for an environment where you have an app per machine |
| 02:42.53 | jhutchins_lt | iENUS: It is easier to get compile privilages, and via compile privaleges to get root. |
| 02:43.06 | LiENUS | jhutchins_lt, typically gcc isn't setuid |
| 02:43.23 | jhutchins_lt | No, but it can easily gain it |
| 02:43.38 | jelly-home | LiENUS: gcc is used as a step to activating a local root exploit |
| 02:43.47 | jhutchins_lt | No, go, do what you whish Ignore standards and best practices. |
| 02:43.56 | LiENUS | jhutchins_lt, i've never heard excluding gcc as a standard |
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| 02:44.13 | jhutchins_lt | Some of us have had to clean up after this before, I guess we will again.\\ |
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| 02:44.59 | jhutchins_lt | Seriously? Have NONE of you read the SAG? Do NONE of you follow Linux Best Practices? |
| 02:44.59 | LiENUS | especially when there are plenty of compilers that are happy to run statically compiled and from a user directory |
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| 02:45.40 | stew | i rarely see people compile an exploit, i usually see people download a pre-compiled, statically linked exploit |
| 02:45.43 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: best practices are not letter of the law. |
| 02:45.50 | jhutchins_lt | Meh, I have the FDA and the Euro standards to answer to. |
| 02:46.23 | LiENUS | food and drug administration? |
| 02:46.24 | jhutchins_lt | I'm not just running home servers. |
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| 02:47.22 | jhutchins_lt | LiENUS: Yeah. Gotta be able to prove that it's secure, which given it's not a producer certified product... |
| 02:47.35 | jelly-home | hah |
| 02:47.39 | LiENUS | banishing gcc to me sounds like an obtuse case of security through obscurity probably in response to when some politician heard about self replicating backdoors in compilers and failed to understand that attack vector |
| 02:48.24 | LiENUS | and is made pointless with the advent of things like tinycc |
| 02:48.41 | jhutchins_lt | no,,it is a logical level of security, about which your nowledge is purely speculative. |
| 02:49.02 | LiENUS | its akin to running sshd on a non default port |
| 02:49.08 | User_007 | <jhutchins_lt> but why apt shows it as an easy possibility |
| 02:49.08 | User_007 | ? |
| 02:49.29 | LiENUS | but likely less effective |
| 02:49.43 | LiENUS | automated scanners are unlikely to rely on a working c compiler being on the target system |
| 02:49.45 | jhutchins_lt | lemar9: Have you ever worked with the banking, pharmecutical, or gambling industries? |
| 02:50.14 | jhutchins_lt | lemar9: Sorry, ffingers are getting thick. |
| 02:50.15 | LiENUS | jhutchins_lt, just because they do it doesnt mean its effective |
| 02:50.54 | jhutchins_lt | LiENUS: Do you do any commercial work with linux? |
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| 02:51.22 | LiENUS | yes i do, not in large a large copreration however |
| 02:51.31 | jhutchins_lt | -30- |
| 02:51.39 | LiENUS | i'm not arguing that these people don't demand you not run a c compiler on a production server |
| 02:51.47 | LiENUS | i'm arguing that it is at best security through obscurity |
| 02:51.55 | jhutchins_lt | It's just stupid to do so, |
| 02:52.34 | LiENUS | a working C compiler is 100kb if i have user access i can likely use wget to copy the C compiler off of a web server to that system |
| 02:52.37 | LiENUS | and compile whatever i want |
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| 02:52.57 | LiENUS | heck if you host any .net stuff ever you're including a working compiler |
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| 02:53.18 | LiENUS | or java stuff |
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| 02:53.44 | LiENUS | i take it none of these banks use java? |
| 02:54.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | could this go to -offtopic? |
| 02:54.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | please? |
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| 02:57.27 | LiENUS | gone there |
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| 02:58.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | thanks guys |
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| 03:08.48 | boudiccas | Where can I get xine from please? |
| 03:09.14 | somiaj | boudiccas: aptitude install xine-ui |
| 03:09.23 | somiaj | boudiccas: apt-cache search xine helps too. |
| 03:09.33 | boudiccas | somiaj, thanks |
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| 03:21.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps does lenny still use smb.conf or is it samba.conf ? |
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| 03:21.41 | LiENUS | This is a RAID status update from mpt-statusd. The mpt-status |
| 03:21.41 | LiENUS | program reports that one of the RAIDs changed state: |
| 03:21.49 | LiENUS | any insight on what that could be? keeps getting emailed to me |
| 03:21.58 | LiENUS | the only thing that follows is |
| 03:21.59 | LiENUS | Report from /etc/init.d/mpt-statusd on |
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| 03:22.49 | LiENUS | hmm somehow i dont think i need 6 open terminals rofl |
| 03:22.55 | LiENUS | local consoles |
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| 03:29.27 | User_007 | ty stew |
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| 04:01.07 | balleyne | I installed Debian on a secondary partition to dual-boot on my laptop, but can't get grub to boot from the Debian kernel. I'm manually updating my grub menu.lst on my Ubuntu partition, because I didn't want Debian to overwrite it. Is there some special flag that needs to be on Debian's partition? Or do I just need the right path to the kernel? Grub says Error 2 bad file or directory... I feel like grub isn't able to read that partition |
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| 04:03.23 | khaleel5000 | hi on squeeze, any program to make charts (which can be saved as images etc, so i can import it to lyx (lyx a latex gui frontend) |
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| 04:06.03 | somiaj | what kind of charts? There are latex packages you can probabaly use to generate charts within latex, or you can use another program and then import the image khaleel5000 |
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| 04:08.17 | khaleel5000 | somiaj: basic accounting related (like return on capital etc) what other program can i use i am not directly using latex, and am a noob, using lyx for its formatting |
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| 04:09.06 | somiaj | I mean bar, pie, graph, etc? |
| 04:09.39 | acx0 | is it possible to source the bash_completion script in the .profile instead of sourcing it everytime a terminal is opened? |
| 04:09.42 | somiaj | either way I don't know off the top of my head, giving you ideas on google search, like 'pie chart laytex' |
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| 04:10.14 | khaleel5000 | bar graphs mostly |
| 04:10.23 | khaleel5000 | ok thanks |
| 04:11.01 | somiaj | search for 'bar charts latex' -- its getting late my spellig is going downhill |
| 04:11.20 | balleyne | khaleel5000: are you just looking to create images? Have you considered using spreadsheet software to output the charts as images? |
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| 04:12.31 | khaleel5000 | balleyne: i didnt, i am looking at that installing spreadsheet |
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| 04:14.07 | balleyne | khaleel5000: OpenOffice.org Calc would be the most popular, there's also Gnumeric. I know you can create charts/graphs in Calc, and there's got to be a way to save those as basic images that you could use elsewhere. There might be another more latexy option, but going with Calc may be easier if you just want images in the end. |
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| 04:16.49 | khaleel5000 | balleyne: thanks |
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| 04:21.55 | jonsu | oh so drunk and happy bye bye server thats been hacked and abused and onto the cloud |
| 04:22.13 | jonsu | we migrated all our sites and databases today into the cloud |
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| 04:25.41 | up23four | ** FOMA F905i ** |
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| 04:26.18 | warmenhoven | can someone help take a look at my package and tell me if i'm doing anything really wrong? lintian doesn't complain but i still think i'm doing it wrong. |
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| 04:33.06 | jrmithdobbs | there any gotchas i'm going to run into trying to take an installed debian image and launching it as initramfs directly? |
| 04:33.28 | jrmithdobbs | (I *am* just going to try it and see, waiting on archive to expand and recompress into right format, ha) |
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| 04:35.27 | jrmithdobbs | i know /sbin/init needs to be copied to /init, anything else? |
| 04:35.27 | nicoya | anyone here good with 6to4? |
| 04:35.41 | jrmithdobbs | nicoya: don't use 6to4, get a real tunnel |
| 04:36.02 | nicoya | but that takes effort |
| 04:36.17 | jrmithdobbs | about 2 minutes more effort than using 6to4 |
| 04:36.25 | jrmithdobbs | and you're having problems with 6to4, so it's probably easier. |
| 04:37.02 | nicoya | I'd kinda like to debug this though, if only to figure out what's going on |
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| 04:37.25 | jrmithdobbs | nicoya: sorry, haven't used 6to4 |
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| 04:38.09 | nicoya | it's weird, as far as I can tell everything is configured the way it should be, and I can see the 6to4 packets going out, but nothing ever comes back |
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| 04:47.07 | Arrowmaster | !ops somebody do something about up23four |
| 04:47.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: arrowmaster complains about: somebody do something about up23four |
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| 04:50.46 | eft | if I use echo <string> >> <file> to append a string to a file, how can I append a blank line first |
| 04:52.14 | gnarface | eft: did you try \n? |
| 04:52.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | eft: you can use -e for echo, then "\nstring" instead of just string |
| 04:52.18 | jrmithdobbs | what magic inside of the default initramfs images is that the documentation refers to as "requiring" an initrd/initramfs? |
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| 04:53.27 | eft | gnarface: thanks, I had tried \r\n but it added an carriage return character I guess so \n looks good thanks |
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| 04:53.56 | eft | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks for the help also :) |
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| 04:54.31 | gnarface | jrmithdobbs: i'm not sure i understand the question... are you asking if an initrd is actually required for the stock kernel, or are you asking if its required if you compile your own kernel? |
| 04:54.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | eft: np |
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| 04:55.09 | jrmithdobbs | gnarface: i'm asking if the init scripts look for something it sets up that would prevent me from using an installed debian system as a very large initramfs |
| 04:56.06 | gnarface | jrmithdobbs: now you've really got me confused... the first part of the question was clear but... are you suggesting rolling your entire debian install into the initrd? |
| 04:56.28 | jrmithdobbs | gnarface: not suggesting, doing |
| 04:56.41 | jrmithdobbs | gnarface: aware of the drawbacks/etc |
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| 04:56.58 | gnarface | jrmithdobbs: that is fascinating. i've never even pondered such a thing. let me know if it works :) |
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| 04:58.20 | jrmithdobbs | cause it's either this or hack up initrd to pull a cpio/tar and extract it to tmpfs |
| 04:58.43 | jrmithdobbs | mostly depends on whether pxelinux support rfc 2347/2348 |
| 04:59.23 | gnarface | is this for diskless systems? |
| 04:59.27 | jrmithdobbs | si |
| 04:59.50 | gnarface | can't say i've ever set one up |
| 04:59.52 | gnarface | sorry |
| 05:00.22 | jrmithdobbs | i have but never had this much ram to play with |
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| 05:00.37 | jrmithdobbs | so usually nfs root |
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| 05:02.06 | k-man_ | whats the command to add an init script to the startup run levels when using the LSB dependency boot thing? |
| 05:02.16 | k-man_ | I found it once but I can't for the life of me remember how to do it now |
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| 05:17.02 | tonytraductor | we just had a power failure, and, upon power coming back up, one of my machines, a server, is not connecting to the network. |
| 05:17.19 | tonytraductor | the machine is one and working. I connected a monitor and keyboard, since I couldn't ssh in. |
| 05:18.11 | tonytraductor | I'm not sure what to do. Everything is connected as before. sshd is running, apache/httpd is running, I did ifconfig and ifup...no joy |
| 05:18.35 | tonytraductor | it's running squeeze |
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| 05:19.06 | gnarface | tonytraductor: power outs are notorious for blowing hardware, especially if you buy cheap-assed "surge suppressors" that don't suppress very much surge. i recommend using UPSes in the future. |
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| 05:19.30 | tonytraductor | so, you think the network card is hosed, or something? |
| 05:19.42 | gnarface | well what does ifconfig -a output? |
| 05:19.49 | tonytraductor | I mean, the machine is up and running, the router and modem are running (this machine is connected to it) |
| 05:19.49 | gnarface | if it can't even see the device, then yes |
| 05:19.56 | tonytraductor | lemme check, brb |
| 05:20.41 | gnarface | otherwise, i'd say try power cycling your switch. they can get wonky when there are brownouts and blackouts... another good excuse for a UPS |
| 05:20.45 | tonytraductor | well, shows parameters for eth0 and lo |
| 05:20.57 | gnarface | so its probably not the card |
| 05:21.02 | gnarface | i'm assuming you checked for link lights? |
| 05:21.43 | tonytraductor | on the modem and router? yeah |
| 05:22.13 | gnarface | how about on the ethernet card in question? |
| 05:22.17 | jrmithdobbs | holy shit, it really is going to pull that 512MB initramfs right over tftp |
| 05:22.19 | gnarface | in the server thats not connecting? |
| 05:22.22 | jrmithdobbs | lets see if it boots! |
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| 05:22.52 | tonytraductor | I rebooted it twice |
| 05:23.10 | jrmithdobbs | pretty sure the mount all init script is gonna die hard on me |
| 05:23.14 | gnarface | tonytraductor: but do you see LINK LIGHTS on the ethernet card in the server thats not connecting? |
| 05:23.24 | tonytraductor | yeah, the lights on the ethernet card are on, too |
| 05:23.39 | tonytraductor | a green light where the cat5 cord pugs in, yes? |
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| 05:24.03 | gnarface | tonytraductor: i dunno. its not standardized across cards. there is often two lights |
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| 05:25.09 | tonytraductor | yeah, actually, yes, a green light and a yellow light, both on |
| 05:25.15 | tonytraductor | all the hardware looks normal |
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| 05:25.55 | gnarface | tonytraductor: when you ping the gateway ip from this server, what does the yellow light do? |
| 05:26.13 | gnarface | tonytraductor: and what does ping output? |
| 05:26.34 | tonytraductor | nothing |
| 05:26.51 | gnarface | no blinking for a running ping? |
| 05:26.58 | gnarface | how about the green one? no blinking either? |
| 05:27.01 | tonytraductor | oh, and any ping command (tried pinging google and debian.org) just give "unknown host" |
| 05:27.06 | tonytraductor | neither light blinks |
| 05:27.08 | gnarface | ping the GATEWAY IP |
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| 05:27.21 | tonytraductor | what is the gateway ip? |
| 05:27.42 | tonytraductor | do you mean ping my router? the public IP? |
| 05:27.56 | gnarface | no the inside ip |
| 05:27.59 | gnarface | ping the router's inside ip |
| 05:28.07 | tonytraductor | like 192.168.1.1 |
| 05:28.18 | gnarface | that's a common one. if you type "route -n" as root it should show up under the gateway column |
| 05:28.33 | tonytraductor | connect: Network is unreachable |
| 05:28.55 | tonytraductor | maybe I should try a different cat5 cord...that's about the only thing I haven't tried. The one on it is less than 2 months old, though |
| 05:29.07 | gnarface | they can go out but the card is more likely to |
| 05:29.47 | gnarface | just out of curiosity... you said you have other servers on the same subnet? can you try pining 192.168.1.1 from one of them just as a sanity check here? |
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| 05:31.20 | tonytraductor | 0% packet loss from this machine (the one I'm typing on) |
| 05:31.55 | tonytraductor | my laptop connects through the same router, via wifi, no problem |
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| 05:33.25 | tonytraductor | yeah, router and modem are fine, cat5 cord is fine, even ethernet card appears to be live... |
| 05:33.31 | tonytraductor | I did ./etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 05:33.43 | tonytraductor | ifconfig, ifdown, ifup, ifsideways...nothing |
| 05:34.34 | tonytraductor | I feel like there's got to be some command I'm leaving out in restarting networking from that machine |
| 05:34.47 | tonytraductor | although, the last time there was a brief power outage, it just came up on its own |
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| 05:36.06 | tonytraductor | If I could find another mouse, I might startx with xfce and see if that little network manager thingy could figure out something I'm missing, but I can't find a mouse |
| 05:36.17 | tonytraductor | I could swear I had a spare here somewhere. |
| 05:36.57 | tonytraductor | not that I ever use xfce and the network manager, but they are installed on there, anyway |
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| 05:38.31 | gnarface | tonytraductor: well its worth checking the network config to see if it is set right... but if you have a spare ethernet card of the same make+model i'd try swapping it in if there aren't any misconfigurations |
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| 05:41.15 | tonytraductor | I don't have a spare eth card... |
| 05:41.21 | tonytraductor | could this have something to do with dhclient? |
| 05:41.39 | tonytraductor | no...it would be able to ping the router even without any dhcp stuff working, I would think |
| 05:42.18 | gnarface | there's a lot of things it could be. the real question is whether you had a valid network config on boot, or if its been working all this time with hand-entered commands that had not been saved in the actual network configuration |
| 05:42.40 | tonytraductor | I swear it just came up on it's own last time power went down |
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| 05:43.03 | tonytraductor | but I also seem to vague recall having to tell the dhclient to do something once, which I found odd |
| 05:43.17 | tonytraductor | sadly, i took no notes, and don't seem to be able to find any relevant information googling about |
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| 05:44.06 | gnarface | hmm. |
| 05:44.09 | tonytraductor | yeah..dhclient is running on THIS machine (on irc), but not over there |
| 05:44.20 | gnarface | it is time for me to eat. i wish you luck. |
| 05:44.22 | tonytraductor | I think that needs started, but the man page doesn't give a simple example start command |
| 05:44.27 | tonytraductor | I freaking hate man pages like that |
| 05:44.30 | gnarface | next time take notes :) |
| 05:44.42 | tonytraductor | it's not the kind of thing you remember, since, that's usually automagical |
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| 05:47.29 | tonytraductor | yeah, I think it's not getting a dhcp lease |
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| 05:51.28 | tonytraductor | this is just really weird... |
| 05:51.45 | tonytraductor | on this current machine (connected) I have /sbin/dhclient, and it is running |
| 05:52.00 | tonytraductor | over there, no such thing. but how could it have disappeared? |
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| 05:52.25 | tonytraductor | I did remove some stuff from that machine, but it was wordpress and some crap like that...should not have removed dhclient |
| 05:52.48 | tonytraductor | now, I have to figure out how to get it back on there, without aptituding it in from the repos. |
| 05:52.59 | tonytraductor | I suppose I'll have to burn up a squeeze disk? |
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| 05:53.24 | tonytraductor | I had upgraded that from lenny with apt, so had not burned a disc for that arch |
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| 05:56.13 | tonytraductor | I only have amd64 isos on hand, and that machine is 32b |
| 05:56.19 | hanasaki | is there any way to get a file list of what is in the directory for an HTTP url? |
| 05:56.48 | tonytraductor | various |
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| 05:57.44 | hanasaki | care to explain a few... |
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| 06:01.13 | tonytraductor | how do I add a cdrom to apt/sources.list? |
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| 06:01.42 | tonytraductor | you know, I had run updates on that machine within 2 hours of the power outage |
| 06:01.51 | orzo | man, apt-cdrom |
| 06:01.56 | orzo | er |
| 06:02.06 | tonytraductor | co0l thank |
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| 06:02.53 | tonytraductor | the netinst disc should have anything necessary to repair dhclient and/or other relevant networking pkgs, I should imagine |
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| 06:19.52 | Ferris- | -_- havin' a hard time connecting to WiFi with an atheros card on debian\lenny (should be supported) |
| 06:20.14 | Ferris- | would it connect properly if the wifi claimed to be wireless G but was broadcasting in the 802.11 b range? |
| 06:20.44 | Ferris- | also, my little button disappears all the time :< |
| 06:21.03 | dudz_ | did you neck up ? |
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| 06:21.25 | Ferris- | i'm unfamiliar with that terminology |
| 06:22.08 | dudz_ | its just a joke term used on irc as a suggestion to people to noose themselves up, its possibly offensive though to people who know other people who have actually done it irl, though that also adds to the humor since people are sensitive. |
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| 06:22.36 | dudz_ | anywho, carry on :) |
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| 06:22.37 | Ferris- | i'm plenty desensitized |
| 06:22.44 | dudz_ | arh swell :) |
| 06:22.54 | Ferris- | idgaf about much :\ no place to carry it on |
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| 06:23.03 | Ferris- | i've about given up for the night, figured i'd visit #debian first |
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| 06:23.19 | tonytraductor | okay, where is my usbkey? I mean, it's connected to a usbport, and I can see it listed when I do lsusb, but that doesn't give me any useful idea, like /media/usbkey |
| 06:23.21 | dudz_ | yeah, its a good idea to come to this fine establishment |
| 06:23.23 | tonytraductor | and i can't seem to find it |
| 06:23.31 | tonytraductor | or, even /dev/subkey |
| 06:23.33 | tonytraductor | or whatever |
| 06:23.42 | Ferris- | tried installing madwifi, reinstalled ath5k, same issue |
| 06:23.45 | dudz_ | fdisk -l tonytraductor |
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| 06:23.52 | tonytraductor | right |
| 06:23.53 | dudz_ | you should be able to identify it by its size |
| 06:24.13 | Ferris- | installed a wifi scanner software, no change... just another wifi manager that doesn't know the router from a hole in the ground |
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| 06:24.56 | dudz_ | have you tried your network on any other systems Ferris- so you can confirm it is configured correctly or hasn't got any conflicts from neighbouring networks ? |
| 06:25.17 | Ferris- | the wifi is fine, it works with every other laptop in the house |
| 06:25.18 | dudz_ | like your phone for example |
| 06:25.23 | dudz_ | ok sweet |
| 06:25.25 | Ferris- | as well as my iphone and ipad |
| 06:25.29 | Ferris- | yes :\ |
| 06:25.43 | dudz_ | and you can confirm the card its self works ? |
| 06:25.50 | dudz_ | thats been tested elsewhere perhaps |
| 06:26.04 | tonytraductor | that didn't help, because the key is not mounted yet |
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| 06:26.21 | tonytraductor | it's detected in the usbport, but not mounted, and I need to know where it is to mount it |
| 06:26.26 | Ferris- | actually, the entire setup worked when i used my room mate's router in the dorm |
| 06:26.30 | dudz_ | tonytraductor, once you findout what the device is called then you can mount it with the mount command, |
| 06:26.37 | Ferris- | so i'd assume it was the router |
| 06:26.45 | dudz_ | fdisk -l should show it, |
| 06:26.59 | tonytraductor | fdisk -l is only showing stuff that is already mounted |
| 06:27.13 | dudz_ | then its not detected |
| 06:27.20 | tonytraductor | lsusb shows me the key (ADATA Technology blah blah), though |
| 06:27.27 | dudz_ | arh |
| 06:27.41 | tonytraductor | it just doesn't tell me where, like /dev/sde2 or whatever |
| 06:27.51 | Ferris- | but i feel like it should connect... but i don't have the system information to show that it's a card restricted to 802.11b, nor can i confirm that an 802.11b restricted adapter can't connect to an 802.11g protocol? router broadcasting in the b frequencies |
| 06:27.53 | dudz_ | what about dmesg ? |
| 06:28.11 | tonytraductor | Ilooked at that, and it didn't seem too helpful |
| 06:28.18 | tonytraductor | I just did tail /var/log/dmesg |
| 06:28.23 | tonytraductor | not much help |
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| 06:28.32 | dudz_ | it shows the device in there though hey, |
| 06:28.47 | Ferris- | as long as ath5k works with g it seems i should have everything necessary ._. unless it tries to be smart and distinguishes between the protocols but not frequencies and blinds me to everything G, knowing i dont have the adapter for it |
| 06:29.26 | dudz_ | you can try lookup the card manufaturer Ferris- |
| 06:29.44 | Ferris- | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready |
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| 06:30.23 | Bartzy | Hi |
| 06:30.24 | dudz_ | its a built in laptop wifi device your trying to use ? |
| 06:30.39 | Bartzy | Is it possible to bind nfs-kernel-server to listen to a specfiic IP address, instead of 0.0.0.0 ? |
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| 06:31.01 | Ferris- | wtf... i wonder if this computer really has bluetooth... i've never gotten it working, but debian seems to think there's some bluetooth bits in there. |
| 06:31.08 | Ferris- | yeah an on-board Atheros card |
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| 06:31.49 | Ferris- | is there a wireless card diagnostics tool for evaluating it? |
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| 06:33.38 | Ferris- | 2.4GHz range, seems 'sif it should work |
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| 06:35.31 | Ferris- | well... thank you for your assistance, dudz_ |
| 06:35.35 | Ferris- | no doubt i'll be back soon |
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| 06:35.36 | Ferris- | <3 |
| 06:35.42 | Ferris- | slash... ill be here 'til i'm back tomorrow |
| 06:35.51 | Aesthenaut | a more appropriate name. |
| 06:36.38 | hanasaki | is there a howto on running debian stripped down from a cf-disk? |
| 06:37.11 | hanasaki | and installing |
| 06:37.25 | hanasaki | is there a captive portal that is implemented on debian? |
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| 06:38.05 | Aesthenaut | tries to cram a plug into an outlet sideways for three |
| 06:38.07 | Aesthenaut | minutes |
| 06:38.08 | Aesthenaut | X| |
| 06:38.30 | Aesthenaut | hanasaki never forget to block excessive dns packets |
| 06:38.34 | Aesthenaut | that's all i'll say |
| 06:38.35 | Aesthenaut | sleeps |
| 06:38.41 | hanasaki | lol say more |
| 06:38.51 | hanasaki | and share your iptables rule :) |
| 06:38.57 | Aesthenaut | i'm terrible at linux, i'm not the guy to ask :< |
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| 06:39.05 | Aesthenaut | i'm just looking to use dns2tcp later |
| 06:39.08 | hanasaki | is DSL linux just a minimal debian? |
| 06:39.10 | Aesthenaut | it shall be fun |
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| 06:39.58 | hanasaki | Aesthenaut: I saw something like that under a diff name once... you bypassign a firewall? grin |
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| 06:40.27 | tonytraductor | I have no idea how the dhcp-client stuff was removed, but that was precisely the problem |
| 06:40.38 | tonytraductor | I could not get what I needed of the netinst disc, either |
| 06:41.07 | tonytraductor | so i downloaded the specific pkgs, moved them to the other machine and dpkg -i them, and now networking si functioning again on that server |
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| 06:41.13 | tonytraductor | weirdest thing ever |
| 06:41.19 | tonytraductor | other than your mom |
| 06:41.29 | hanasaki | rofl |
| 06:41.30 | tonytraductor | but, all good now! |
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| 06:42.31 | tonytraductor | the server doesn't really serve anything overly important or mission critical |
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| 06:42.49 | tonytraductor | basically I use it for an ftp server...kind of like a private |
| 06:42.51 | tonytraductor | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:42.59 | tonytraductor | and I have a dokuwiki on it for personal use |
| 06:43.16 | tonytraductor | I play with stuff on it |
| 06:43.42 | tonytraductor | I backed up my entire wordpress blog on it, but google and bing wouldn t stop spidering it even when I asked nicely with a robots.txt |
| 06:43.47 | tonytraductor | so i removed that |
| 06:43.59 | tonytraductor | and i ran an ircd for a few days, but nobody came to play |
| 06:44.16 | tonytraductor | today I installed pnopaste on it, and now have my own pastebin |
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| 06:47.06 | tonytraductor | 2nd paste ever for YOU! (yes, you): http://blinguas.homelinux.net/pnopaste/?2 |
| 06:47.38 | tonytraductor | were it not for Debian GNU/Linux, my life would be grey and dreary |
| 06:47.46 | tonytraductor | the world would seem lifeless and void |
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| 06:47.56 | tonytraductor | and black like my soul |
| 06:48.02 | tonytraductor | nah...I'm not really emo |
| 06:48.08 | tonytraductor | just...forever alone... |
| 06:48.13 | tonytraductor | any of you guys redditors? |
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| 06:50.36 | tonytraductor | well, it's too darned late, and the rent is too darned high |
| 06:50.41 | tonytraductor | and I need sleep |
| 06:50.50 | tonytraductor | I can't brain...I have the dumb |
| 06:50.58 | yogi | what's the easiest way to slap a debian installer onto a usb stick? |
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| 06:51.14 | tonytraductor | probably with that cute little unetbootin tool thingy |
| 06:51.36 | tonytraductor | http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 06:51.53 | tonytraductor | trry that, yogi |
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| 06:52.43 | tonytraductor | there are quick-easy ways to do it on the cli, too, but, unetbootin means less typing |
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| 06:52.58 | yogi | is that apt-gettable? |
| 06:53.06 | yogi | is typing on a debian box already |
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| 06:53.46 | tonytraductor | well then, yogi, just do aptitude install unetbootin # then fire that puppy up and have a go |
| 06:54.01 | tonytraductor | yeah, I just checked, it's in our repos |
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| 06:54.08 | tonytraductor | at least for squeeze...are you on squeeze? |
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| 06:54.18 | yogi | tonytraductor: the lappy is on testing |
| 06:54.27 | tonytraductor | you should be golden, then |
| 06:54.28 | yogi | but I need squeeze on the server |
| 06:54.35 | yogi | but an ISO is an ISO |
| 06:54.44 | yogi | tonytraductor: thanks! |
| 06:54.49 | tonytraductor | no prob |
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| 06:57.03 | dsdeiz | hi! say i'm installing xfce4, how do i not have it install leafpad or other packages that comes w xfce4? |
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| 06:58.58 | craigevil | dont install the xfce4 metapackage or install without recommends |
| 06:59.25 | dsdeiz | so i install them 1 by 1? |
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| 07:04.00 | cutout | Hi am on debian lenny, I have an apache 2 server with a self signed certificate, I want to replace it witha commercial one (which I already have) can any one tell me from where to start? |
| 07:04.31 | moele | cutout, it's fairly straight forward |
| 07:04.44 | moele | cutout, you'll want to replace the SSLCert path to point to the new certificate |
| 07:04.53 | cutout | but am newbe :) |
| 07:05.00 | moele | did you install the free one? |
| 07:05.01 | moele | or self-signed |
| 07:05.02 | moele | yoruself? |
| 07:05.09 | cutout | from wher can I do that? |
| 07:05.14 | cutout | no I did not :( |
| 07:05.18 | moele | alright |
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| 07:05.19 | moele | well |
| 07:05.19 | cutout | I wish |
| 07:05.24 | moele | what you'll want to do i= |
| 07:05.34 | moele | is go to |
| 07:06.03 | moele | cd /etc/apache2 |
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| 07:06.50 | cutout | and |
| 07:06.53 | moele | one sec |
| 07:06.56 | moele | im checking my configuration |
| 07:06.58 | moele | its been a while |
| 07:07.03 | cutout | sorry :( |
| 07:07.38 | moele | ok |
| 07:07.40 | moele | go to |
| 07:07.48 | moele | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.52 | moele | and look for ssl.conf |
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| 07:08.41 | cutout | I got it opend with nano |
| 07:09.30 | marc7 | if I have a hard drive that's in the middle of failing, is there any way I can limit the speed of 'cp' or 'rsync' to a certain throughput speed? having the drive putter away seems to yield good results in transferring data |
| 07:10.06 | moele | cutout, ok in |
| 07:10.08 | moele | sory |
| 07:10.19 | moele | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.20 | moele | do u see ssl? |
| 07:10.22 | moele | or your default |
| 07:10.48 | cutout | default default.save default-ssl xdefault xdefault-ssl |
| 07:10.54 | moele | likely |
| 07:10.55 | moele | default-ssl |
| 07:10.59 | moele | is the one it'll rad |
| 07:11.04 | moele | check that config file |
| 07:11.05 | moele | and look for |
| 07:11.05 | moele | SSLCertfile |
| 07:11.11 | moele | and SSLCertKey etc.. |
| 07:11.14 | cutout | Ok |
| 07:11.15 | moele | not exactly ast yped |
| 07:11.18 | moele | but you should see it pointing |
| 07:11.21 | moele | to your current self signed |
| 07:11.29 | moele | do you see em |
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| 07:12.52 | cutout | moele : SSLCertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem |
| 07:12.54 | cutout | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.08 | moele | basically you want to copy your corporate certs |
| 07:13.10 | cutout | shoul I just change it to point to the new ones? |
| 07:13.20 | moele | yes |
| 07:13.20 | moele | :0 |
| 07:13.21 | cutout | hehe |
| 07:13.27 | cutout | one sec |
| 07:13.30 | cutout | I'll try it |
| 07:13.31 | moele | you need to make sure you have the correct permissions |
| 07:13.34 | moele | set on those certs as well |
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| 07:13.57 | cutout | which are? |
| 07:13.58 | Catface | Hello |
| 07:14.01 | cutout | 777 |
| 07:14.10 | moele | hell no |
| 07:14.18 | cutout | :( |
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| 07:14.32 | Catface | Feels bat, man |
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| 07:14.42 | moele | L( |
| 07:14.42 | moele | :0 |
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| 07:15.11 | moele | chmod ug+r cert files basically |
| 07:15.15 | moele | and chmod o+rw cert file |
| 07:15.16 | moele | basically :0 |
| 07:15.24 | cutout | thanks |
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| 07:15.49 | cutout | also for the key? |
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| 07:17.00 | ectospasm | I'm having trouble with sudo launching a screen session. I've got a Bash script in ~/bin/launcher.sh. I can launch this script with "screen -dmS myLaunch /home/user/launcher.sh" However, if I use root to run "sudo -u user screen -dmS myLaunch /home/user/bin/launcher.sh", the screen session silently exits, and I don't see any reason for it. Help? |
| 07:17.57 | Catface | What does hookers and butter have in common? |
| 07:17.59 | moele | ectospasm, have you checked your system logs? |
| 07:18.10 | moele | ectospasm, or asked terminal to be more verbatim |
| 07:18.37 | ectospasm | moele: like /var/log/messages? |
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| 07:18.46 | moele | ectospasm, yessim |
| 07:18.47 | dimir | Catface: something to do with licking I suppose. |
| 07:19.03 | ectospasm | moele: I haven't checked that yet, thanks for the tip. |
| 07:19.05 | Catface | they both spread for bread |
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| 07:19.54 | moele | ectospasm, also you could try running the script and redirection output to a file |
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| 07:20.01 | moele | ectopasm, to see if anything gets outputted useful in there |
| 07:20.39 | ectospasm | moele: like I implied, redirection won't work, because it launches it in a screen session |
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| 07:20.56 | ectospasm | the only broken piece is when I go from sudo into screen |
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| 07:21.38 | ectospasm | Unless you can provide a better way of launching a daemon process as an unprivileged user and not use sudo to do it... |
| 07:22.15 | moele | ectospasm, you tried sudo -s ? |
| 07:22.16 | atypic | ectospasm: most likely you can't open a terminal device. one solution could be to sudo and use script (script /dev/null) and launching your screen afterwards. Another solution could be to use the command "addacl" in screen. |
| 07:22.29 | atypic | addacl root, tpically. |
| 07:22.46 | atypic | and attaching to the screen with sudo =) |
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| 07:24.23 | atypic | yet another solution, I guess, could be to allow read/write for all to your tty before running sudo (don't do this). |
| 07:24.40 | atypic | =b |
| 07:24.42 | cutout | moele : you are the best |
| 07:24.45 | cutout | :D |
| 07:25.08 | moele | cutout, np |
| 07:25.14 | ectospasm | moele: sudo -s does not work |
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| 07:25.27 | moele | ectospasm, whats the contents of your script |
| 07:25.31 | moele | can u pastebin it? |
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| 07:25.38 | ectospasm | moele: the script runs OK |
| 07:25.50 | ectospasm | moele: the script runs OK when run in screen by the target user |
| 07:26.08 | ectospasm | moele: when I try to get root to launch the script as the target user, it fails. |
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| 07:28.16 | as001 | hi I have problem installing zend framework on my debian squeeze. It shows default page,but when I click on link guestbook it search it on wrong path. I saw that in apache2 log file. Can you point me to some good tutorial how to do that ? |
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| 07:30.06 | ectospasm | moele: my script, just so you know: http://pastebin.com/rNWxqSnC |
| 07:30.11 | ectospasm | very simple |
| 07:30.19 | ectospasm | and each stage after the sudo works on its own. |
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| 07:31.48 | ectospasm | atypic: acladd may not be a bad idea, but I need to launch the screen session from an init script. |
| 07:31.56 | ectospasm | ...I still don't see how to do that. |
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| 07:33.48 | jrmithdobbs | if anyone wants to know the answer to my question earlier re: using an installed debian system as an initramfs: you need to hack up the default initramfs-tools /init file to JUST load up just udev and mount /proc,/sys,/dev/pts and use that instead of just using /sbin/init as /init |
| 07:34.40 | jrmithdobbs | other than that, pxelinux and the kernel do not blink at a a 338MB initramfs (1.1G expanded) so long as you have the ram |
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| 07:36.25 | jrmithdobbs | err 388M whatever |
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| 07:37.07 | kylee | What is the default package manager for debian now? |
| 07:37.09 | kylee | still apt? |
| 07:37.17 | jrmithdobbs | never was apt |
| 07:37.20 | jrmithdobbs | dpkg |
| 07:37.21 | kylee | err |
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| 07:37.24 | jrmithdobbs | apt is a frontend |
| 07:37.43 | kylee | trying to figure out what utility on debian to use to search for packages |
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| 07:37.52 | jrmithdobbs | apt-cache |
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| 07:38.04 | cer_abg | hi |
| 07:38.31 | kylee | I should be able to use synaptic then with no probs? |
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| 07:39.01 | jrmithdobbs | no idea what that is |
| 07:39.09 | jrmithdobbs | if it's another dpkg/apt frontend then yes |
| 07:39.18 | kylee | gui frontend to apt |
| 07:39.46 | jrmithdobbs | basic package toolchain hasn't changed since like potato |
| 07:40.07 | jrmithdobbs | except mastabatory argumentes over which stupid curses/gui frontend is "better" and should be "default" |
| 07:40.10 | timo | kylee: using synaptic should present no problems |
| 07:40.11 | kylee | You know of any better GUI frontends? |
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| 07:40.27 | jrmithdobbs | aterm is p sweet |
| 07:41.04 | kylee | Well, thanks very much for the info :) |
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| 07:42.26 | harpal | !hwinfo |
| 07:42.26 | dpkg | i guess hwinfo is your friend, "aptitude install hwinfo" then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
| 07:42.56 | wooster | is there an email app for emacs that is good |
| 07:43.00 | wooster | wanderlust is terrible |
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| 08:06.40 | bahamas | hello. i have a django site on a debian machine, and my mailing functionality stopped working. i didn't change any setting in my django app, but i don't know if anything's changed on the server. any suggestions about how i could debug this? |
| 08:07.08 | cer_abg | mail? try /var/log/mail.log |
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| 08:09.06 | bahamas | cer_abg: it's empty |
| 08:09.38 | cer_abg | bahamas: then try something like this: cat /var/log/syslog | grep smtp |
| 08:10.27 | cer_abg | bahamas: or: cat /var/log/syslog | grep postfix <-- or whatever could give you a clue |
| 08:10.27 | bahamas | cer_abg: i get nothing |
| 08:10.37 | bahamas | ok, i'll try the other one as well |
| 08:10.55 | bahamas | nothing |
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| 08:12.03 | bahamas | syslog only has 5 lines. i don't know if that's normal or not. this isn't a production box, it's a staging one |
| 08:12.47 | cer_abg | bahamas: in a standar debian i think that isn't normal. Every reboot gives a lot of logs.. at least |
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| 08:13.21 | cer_abg | try /var/log/messages |
| 08:13.40 | bahamas | cer_abg: 4 lines |
| 08:13.51 | cer_abg | -_- |
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| 08:14.45 | cer_abg | bahamas: maybe, in addition to the problems with the smpt&django, you have something misconfigured, rsyslog, syslog, or whatever.. |
| 08:15.14 | cer_abg | but i think that's not normal in a standar debian installation |
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| 08:17.49 | bahamas | cer_abg: unfortunately, i'm not a sysadmin and i didn't configure the server. a former colleague who left did. all i know is that it's a debian install in VM |
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| 08:19.20 | cer_abg | bahamas: I can't imagine where your system logs are... I think you would have to contact the dude that configure the server... or reinstall it :P |
| 08:19.20 | ectospasm | aight, this does not make any *am sense. By wrapping my script three layers deep: init_script > screen launching script > bash script to run the python script, it works. |
| 08:19.41 | ectospasm | I dunno why launching it from a root shell kept failing, but whatever |
| 08:19.45 | ectospasm | I'm happy now! |
| 08:20.07 | Pupeno_ | Any ideas what to do with a non responding xen virtual machine? |
| 08:20.27 | ectospasm | Pupeno_: is stopping it and restarting it out of the question? |
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| 08:21.00 | bahamas | cer_abg: ok, thanks |
| 08:21.26 | cer_abg | bahamas: you're welcome |
| 08:21.39 | Pupeno_ | ectospasm: it's just refusing to shutdown or restart. |
| 08:22.04 | ectospasm | Iunno then, no experience with xen here |
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| 08:26.24 | cer_abg | Pupeno_: in KVM at least you have "virsh destroy" for force the vm to halt. Don't you have something like this in XEN? |
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| 08:27.06 | Pupeno_ | cer_abg: yes, there's xm destroy... but as I'm very unfamiliar with xen, I didn't want to do it without some confirmation it's the right path. |
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| 08:28.40 | cer_abg | Pupeno_: you're right.. I can't tell you anythink more... you choose :P |
| 08:29.02 | cer_abg | anything* |
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| 09:03.11 | Grega | Hej! Can someone help me fix the problem when installing nginx on debian6 (http://paste.pocoo.org/show/386766/) ? |
| 09:04.25 | Grega | hm.. looks like it got installed anyway |
| 09:04.47 | themill | !missing lsb tags |
| 09:04.47 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, Debian is using a dependency-based boot sequence (see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.Debian). This requires that all init scripts have appropriate headers in them so that the correct order of execution can be determined. Scripts like S25libdevmapper1.02 are left over from Sarge and can be deleted; your own scripts will need LSB headers added: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 09:04.49 | Grega | well.. never mind.. :) |
| 09:05.07 | themill | Grega: not really installed properly in that it's not configured properly. |
| 09:05.18 | Grega | hm |
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| 09:07.15 | themill | Grega: your vzquota and vzreboot scripts need some work. If they're provided by your VPS provider, they should have updated versions for squeeze. |
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| 09:08.03 | Grega | yeah, right.. I can forget about that :) |
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| 09:10.04 | ipo | help help help! |
| 09:10.09 | themill | Grega: no, you can't really forget about this problem as you will have it every time you use apt. |
| 09:10.21 | ipo | My system was terminatd! |
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| 09:10.38 | ipo | and I cannot open any things! |
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| 09:11.35 | karthick87 | How to clear firefox caches via terminal ? |
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| 09:17.19 | joltcan | karthick87: close firefox, then look at .mozilla/profiles/<hash>/ |
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| 09:34.30 | RichiH | are there any alternatives to bonnie++ for testing disk performance? |
| 09:34.37 | RichiH | ideally, i want to point it at an unmounted block device and have it do destructive tests |
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| 09:38.10 | gnarface | RichiH: have you looked at hdparm or smartd/smartctl? |
| 09:39.30 | RichiH | gnarface: smartctl does not do speed tests and hdparm's test are mostly a joke |
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| 09:43.17 | gnarface | RichiH: true but smartctl can do for most drives the built-in diagnostic runs... if you just want benchmarking not diagnosis though... what's wrong with bonnie++? |
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| 09:47.35 | RichiH | gnarface: it operates on a file system |
| 09:47.39 | RichiH | not a block device |
| 09:47.50 | RichiH | which will always give skewed results |
| 09:48.14 | gnarface | but aren't those results skewed in a direction that is... you know... more relevant? |
| 09:48.43 | gnarface | you're not using these disks sans-filesystem are you? |
| 09:49.11 | RichiH | no, but it's still skewed |
| 09:49.19 | gnarface | uh |
| 09:49.28 | gnarface | so put the filesystem on them you intend to use |
| 09:49.33 | gnarface | poof! no more skewing |
| 09:49.42 | RichiH | if the next kernel speeds up xfs' foo operation by x, all my old tests are irrelevant |
| 09:50.03 | gnarface | one might say that about any tests you run on a disk without filesystems.... |
| 09:51.08 | gnarface | but to be honest its a surprise to me that smartctl's ability to access internal disk diagnostics does not, for most modern models at least, include performance benchmarking, as i would consider that as relevant to disk health as any of the other figures... not that i've had to do this ever mind you, but ... how hard did you look at smartctl? |
| 09:51.51 | gnarface | sorry that's all i've got for you. the only other idea that comes to mind is putting a timer on dd |
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| 09:52.13 | RichiH | hard enough. and it's _not_ smart's task to test performance |
| 09:52.39 | RichiH | gnarface: if i was interested in sequential write/read, i would just look at my badblocks stats |
| 09:52.39 | Bushmills | there was a warning about recent kernels in combination with XFS, btw. some 2.6.38 kernels without a certain patch would destroy XFS file systems ("eat for breakfast" linus called it) |
| 09:53.06 | gnarface | yum yum |
| 09:53.12 | RichiH | Bushmills: we are running xfs on hundreds of machines, no problems here |
| 09:53.29 | RichiH | there was a horrible bug with xfs and loopback mounting for a few versions |
| 09:53.36 | RichiH | but that's about it |
| 09:54.55 | gnarface | and bonnie++ really can't do that either? |
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| 09:55.25 | gnarface | yet you want filesystemless benchmarks and dd isn't relevant even? |
| 09:55.32 | gnarface | lemme know if you find something to suit your needs... |
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| 09:56.27 | zinx | gnarface: amusingly, disk performance is more relevant to disk health to anything smart actually does provide |
| 09:56.41 | zinx | gnarface: nothing smart provides is particularly relevant to disk health :/ |
| 09:57.02 | zinx | gnarface: a lot of drives have even stopped providing reallocated sector counts |
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| 09:58.33 | gnarface | yuck |
| 09:59.17 | zinx | but, yeah.. one of the better indicators is read/write/seek performance |
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| 10:02.23 | gnarface | so how do you get seek performance without a filesystem? |
| 10:02.37 | zinx | uh... you seek |
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| 10:02.48 | gnarface | by just requesting raw blocks? |
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| 10:02.53 | zinx | yes |
| 10:03.05 | zinx | raw blocks not right next to each other |
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| 10:03.38 | gnarface | so other than writing a script full of random dd commands yourself, what is there out there designed to do that? bonnie++ really doesn't do that? |
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| 10:16.55 | sephii | Can anybody explain me how the "||" operator works in bash ? I have a command which returns a code of 255 and it is written like that : command1 || command2. command2 is executed even if command1 return code is 255, is it normal ? |
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| 10:17.52 | nirc | sfadf |
| 10:17.55 | nirc | xaxax |
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| 10:18.10 | themill | nirc: yes, both cat and keyboard appear to be working fine |
| 10:18.43 | themill | sephii: an exit status of 0 is true for bash; any other exit status is false. |
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| 10:19.00 | gnarface | sephii: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html#Lists |
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| 10:19.49 | andy5635353 | hi, i am trying to install python development version on debian, what do i actually need to install? |
| 10:19.50 | gnarface | i think you have && and || backwards; bash considers a non-zero exit status to be failure, not a positive value |
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| 10:19.59 | sephii | What a dumbass... thanks for the clue |
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| 10:20.56 | gnarface | there ARE string comparison operators in bash but they're separate |
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| 10:27.05 | gnarface | hey i think i ran into a bug with mozilla-venkman with iceweasel but maybe its just something i'm doing wrong... if i am stepping manually through code it seems to freeze any time i encounter a document.write |
| 10:27.17 | gnarface | it freezes venkman AND the iceweasel window |
| 10:27.24 | gnarface | no bugs are currently listed against this package |
| 10:27.28 | gnarface | anyone else using this thing or is it just me? |
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| 10:34.50 | smev81 | hello. i am using squeeze and i would like to change resolution on virtual terminals. i am using nvidia and nouveau and probably kms. |
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| 10:37.22 | sereal | what is the package to get host.local functionality? |
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| 10:50.25 | themill | !mdns |
| 10:50.26 | dpkg | i guess mdns is a Multicast <Domain Name System> for use on local networks. It is used by <avahi> to set up automagical name resolution using the <.local domain>. |
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| 10:50.36 | themill | bah |
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| 10:53.17 | Rziz | Hm, i want to compile something depending on libgtk1.2, running wheezy. Can I just grab libgtk1.2 as well as libglib 1.2 from lenny? |
| 10:53.34 | Rziz | without suffering some kind of breakage |
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| 10:56.20 | cretsiah | is there a good howto on building a lenny or squeeze from base system, to only having specific programs you want/need? |
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| 10:57.38 | themill | cretsiah: easy, only select "standard system" as the tasksel stage; only install the packages you want. |
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| 11:02.55 | cretsiah | themill: ive tried a couple of times, i get most of what i want program wise, but i seem to fail on the audio and video components :( |
| 11:03.22 | stew | cretsiah: give us an example |
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| 11:09.10 | cretsiah | i have an intel pc, with intel audio, just trying to look up the specifics |
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| 11:13.48 | cretsiah | ich4 -intel ich5 audio device |
| 11:13.52 | themill | cretsiah: you'll get better help from #debian if you come with a specific question or a specific error message. IRC doesn't deal that well with hypotheticals. That said, /msg dpkg alsa |
| 11:14.05 | cretsiah | k |
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| 11:21.53 | bigmahatma | hello. I'm an Ubuntu user for now 5 years, and I got tired to having to reinstall a new system every year because the old one is not supported anymore. I'm thinking to switch to Debian, would this solve my problems? |
| 11:22.48 | grondilu | bigmahatma: install a rolling release distrib, such as aptosid (www.aptosid.com) |
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| 11:23.16 | grondilu | (aptosid is also derived from debian) |
| 11:23.32 | bigmahatma | does this answer imply that my problems wont be solved with Debian? |
| 11:24.13 | gnarface | i haven't had to reinstall in several years |
| 11:24.47 | gnarface | but you have to keep it updated |
| 11:24.47 | indro | aptosid is great. ;) |
| 11:25.11 | sephii | Can't you just apt-get d-u instead of reinstalling everything ? |
| 11:25.31 | bigmahatma | well you usually don't HAVE to install, but if you need a package when the distro is outdated, you're in deep %&*@ |
| 11:26.13 | stew | bigmahatma: this problem would be solved by debian |
| 11:26.13 | gnarface | bigmahatma: yea but that's why you always dist-upgrade to the latest stable version before the old one gets too old |
| 11:26.31 | gnarface | ubuntu really doesn't have an upgrade process between versions? |
| 11:26.39 | bigmahatma | yeah it does |
| 11:27.08 | bigmahatma | but I never used it, I suspect it leaves quite a lot of rubbish behind |
| 11:27.24 | cretsiah | then ubuntu 10.10 asks during installation if you wanna upgrade to 11.04??? |
| 11:27.52 | stew | bigmahatma: your options are to run debian stable, in which the release cycle is more like 2 years, but you can always upgrade without a reinstall (i've got machines which have done this without a reinstall through 5 versions). or to run testing, which is closer to a rolling release (but gets frozen before a new stable release (so once every 2 years or so)) |
| 11:28.05 | CyL | morning folks |
| 11:28.37 | CyL | would anyone please assiist me on how to install a debian system with whole disk aes-xts encryption? |
| 11:29.33 | jelly | bigmahatma: I've upgraded my netbook through 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04 LTS at it went fairly well, and Debian installed around 2.2 (2001 maybe?) up to current testing. I'd say Debian's upgrade path are a bit more reliable |
| 11:29.41 | jelly | upgrade paths* |
| 11:30.36 | Pupeno_ | Is there a way to specify a default email address for cron? |
| 11:31.10 | bigmahatma | that's indeed reassuring. I noticed Debian's releases used to be far a way (in time) from each other, but I also noticed that Lenny was released in January this year, and Squeeze in MArch.. |
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| 11:31.49 | wols_ | !lenny |
| 11:31.49 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for the current <oldstable> release, Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on 2009-02-15 and superseded by Squeeze as of 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 . Ask me about <lenny->squeeze>, <lenny release notes>, <install lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.8>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
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| 11:32.04 | wols_ | see how it was released more than 2 years ago? |
| 11:32.18 | bigmahatma | yep |
| 11:32.50 | wols_ | so two years between releases, which is basically normal for debian |
| 11:33.19 | bigmahatma | great. Thanks a lot guys, you've been very helpful. |
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| 11:35.01 | cretsiah | bye all |
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| 11:36.36 | CyL | would anyone please assist me on how to install a debian system with whole disk aes-xts encryption? |
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| 11:42.18 | JyZyXEL | CyL: the CLI based installer supports some kind of disk encryption |
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| 11:47.21 | B3rz3rk3r | CyL truecrypt might be an option to consider |
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| 11:48.01 | JyZyXEL | not if the system is running on the disk to be encrypted |
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| 11:49.58 | CyL | B3rz3rk3r, JyZyXEL: the system is indeed running on the target disk, I have tried the cli installer, but it only offer aes-cbc as an option |
| 11:50.09 | Sw33NY | hi all |
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| 11:51.10 | JyZyXEL | CyL: the installer might not have xts available |
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| 11:52.12 | CyL | JyZyXEL: I wonder why if this is available as a module on the installed system... anyway, thanks very much for you advice |
| 11:52.43 | JyZyXEL | you could try loading the module in another console |
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| 11:52.54 | JyZyXEL | see if the option then pops in the menu |
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| 11:53.57 | JyZyXEL | if not, you could manually run the cryptsetup create command with correct cipher string |
| 11:53.58 | CyL | JyZyXEL: Well, I believe they would have to code an installer script for the option to be available |
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| 11:54.09 | JyZyXEL | CyL: it might be dynamic |
| 11:55.19 | kombi | can you use biosgrub in a software raid? |
| 11:55.30 | JyZyXEL | if you do end up having to manually create its important to get the dm name correct |
| 11:56.12 | CyL | JyZyXEL: last time i tried it wasn't, but it may be different now.. i'll give it a try, see you in about an hour! |
| 11:57.19 | CyL | JyZyXEL: I'd just like to having it dont with aes-xts just to be able to upgrade without reinstalling once this options becomes available, but if I can get it to work, I'll just go with aes-cbc... any encryption is better than none :) |
| 11:57.45 | CyL | See you later |
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| 11:59.43 | kombi | how can I install the complete distro with grub2? |
| 12:00.32 | jelly | kombi: grub2 is the boot loader you get by default in squeeze |
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| 12:01.39 | kombi | jelly: been struggling to get it to install in mbr until I found you can't with more than 2TB. Now I've got a biosgrub partition but that does not seem to support software raid... |
| 12:02.04 | twinkie_addict | holy god its amazing how heated a decosusion can get over grub drive alocations lol |
| 12:02.22 | twinkie_addict | like calling sda hda |
| 12:02.56 | twinkie_addict | 0 not a oops |
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| 12:03.17 | kombi | I just wonder how one tackles that one |
| 12:04.40 | Ghis|Work | Anyone know where i can find a shell script that allocates x mb of memory? |
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| 12:05.04 | jelly | kombi: oh, you want to boot from a device larger than 2TiB? |
| 12:05.07 | kombi | with two biosgrub partitions not linked to an array I finally managed to install grub, still the box won't boot |
| 12:05.21 | kombi | jelly: must, sort of.. |
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| 12:06.12 | kombi | I just wonder how... This thing has bugging me for two days now |
| 12:06.15 | bzrk | Ghis|Work: add and mount a new tmpfs |
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| 12:06.16 | kombi | *been |
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| 12:06.29 | jelly | kombi: if your machine supports EFI / UEFI booting, I guess you could use a GPT partition table and grub-efi package. Personally I have no experience with how it works |
| 12:06.48 | jelly | ,info grub-efi |
| 12:06.50 | judd | Package grub-efi (admin, extra) in squeeze/i386: GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package). Version: 1.98+20100804-14; Size: 274.9k; Installed: 328k; Homepage: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ |
| 12:06.58 | jelly | hmph |
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| 12:07.11 | kombi | jelly: thing is, GPT can't be linked to an array it seems |
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| 12:07.45 | kombi | judd: how would I put that on a freshly installed but not booting box? |
| 12:07.53 | jelly | judd is a bot |
| 12:07.59 | kombi | whoops...;) |
| 12:08.26 | kombi | answer me, bot! ;)) |
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| 12:09.27 | jelly | I truly have no idea whether it can be done without a reinstall |
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| 12:10.17 | kombi | jelly: done some 7 reinstalls already, another one wouldn't add to my dismay... |
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| 12:17.08 | jelly | all my machines have small boot disks and separate large storage if needed |
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| 12:19.28 | sickgut | hello i have a question |
| 12:20.20 | sickgut | when apt installs a package it tells yu howmuch space it will use, im wanting to know does this include the backup of the.deb files it keeps in the /var/cache/apt/archives dir? |
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| 12:21.09 | sickgut | or is the actual space used when installing the package the number of mbs that apt-get says it will be + the space usedby the .deb's it keeps in that dir? |
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| 12:23.21 | Bushmills | debs are only kept if you don't aptitude clear the cache directory |
| 12:23.46 | Bushmills | thus, they don't count as part of installed package size |
| 12:23.58 | sickgut | ok thanks |
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| 12:24.04 | mplabs | Hello guys! |
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| 12:24.20 | mplabs | I'm trying to compile a module but it's impossible, I don't have idea what is wrong, here is the log: http://pastebin.com/9iAgQtKu |
| 12:24.29 | mplabs | I do have the source in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-2-amd64/ |
| 12:24.46 | Bushmills | aptitude clean, actually |
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| 12:26.03 | nunne | after i updated to debian 6 from 5 my tftp-server wont work. anyone else run into this problem? I'm using tftpd-hpa and I have changed to the "new" syntax in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa and i have commented out the #<off> tftp line in /etc/inted.conf .. but still no success |
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| 12:26.30 | mplabs | any idea? |
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| 12:27.21 | sickgut | ive never been able to upgrade from lenny to squeeze without so many problems that it doest make the entire excersize impractical |
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| 12:28.48 | justin_ | sickgut: upgrading works fine as long as you didn't do something to lenny to break it beforehand |
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| 12:35.11 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 12:39.49 | nshine | hey all, i have this follwing messege when restarting the apache at debian 6 '[Wed May 11 08:38:32 2011] [warn] VirtualHost 109.74.206.109:80 overlaps with VirtualHost 109.74.206 .109:80, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive ' |
| 12:40.04 | cheako | Hello, krb5 1.8.3 does not work at all when the KDC is configured for IPv6. |
| 12:40.33 | cheako | Is there any way I can get squeeze-backports to carry 1.9+dfsg-1? |
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| 12:41.14 | nshine | + |
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| 12:41.46 | cheako | My authentication has been unusable for the past 2 weeks and I've just discovered why. |
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| 12:42.33 | cheako | The 1.6 packages from Lenny worked vary well, but I've upgraded every system. |
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| 12:55.27 | BrixSat | how do i upgrade from Release: 5.0.8 Codename: lenny to the newest version? |
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| 12:55.59 | cheako | hmm, let me try. |
| 12:56.05 | cheako | !dist-upgrade |
| 12:56.05 | dpkg | dist-upgrade tells apt to also install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages). Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; in lenny, aptitude calls dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. See also <why not dist-upgrade> <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze> <full-upgrade>. |
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| 12:56.34 | cheako | !lenny->squeeze |
| 12:56.34 | atypic | !lenny->squeeze |
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| 12:56.58 | cheako | !full-upgrade |
| 12:56.58 | dpkg | full-upgrade is the new name for "dist-upgrade" in aptitude from Lenny onwards. Remember that "dist-upgrade" is not about moving from one release to another but installing new packages (ask me about <dist-upgrade>); read man apt-get carefully. Some security fixes will require a "full-upgrade" not just a "safe-upgrade" to apply. Ask me about <why not dist upgrade> <dist-upgrade> <safe-upgrade> <apt-listchanges> |
| 12:57.23 | dvs | !tell BrixSat about lenny->squeeze |
| 12:57.49 | cer_abg | stop kidding the bot :D |
| 12:57.51 | BrixSat | apt-get dist-upgrade (done nothing to update) |
| 12:58.04 | cheako | dvs: That didn't seem to work, can you hit me? |
| 12:58.07 | BrixSat | how do i move from lenny to sqeese |
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| 12:58.24 | dvs | cheako: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 12:58.30 | babilen | BrixSat: Please note the last sentence in that factoid. It is of uttermost importance that you read, understand and follow the release notes in addition to the short instructions given there. |
| 12:58.42 | dvs | BrixSat: Read the release notes, particularly chapter 4 |
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| 12:59.12 | babilen | BrixSat: And the chapter named something like "What's new in Squeeze" or so ... (chapter 2??) |
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| 12:59.58 | BrixSat | babilen: chapter 4 of what? (where is it) |
| 13:00.41 | babilen | BrixSat: The Squeeze release notes. -- /msg dpkg squeeze release notes |
| 13:00.54 | BrixSat | is squeeze stable release? |
| 13:00.59 | babilen | yes |
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| 13:02.49 | EduardeCalibal | Hello. I need reiserfs support to install the Debian 6.0.1a. Someone know how I load it? |
| 13:02.58 | mmm | hi all. During netinstall in virtualbox, installer is downloading and compiling vbox addon. It is possible to skip this step? |
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| 13:03.18 | cer_abg | see u! |
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| 13:04.43 | toolz | hi, does anyone knows how to reboot one machine without phisical access when it goes to read only mode? I don't know why it happens but it stops responding to any command, cannot edit any files due to read only, cannot remount rw.. any idea? |
| 13:05.26 | wols_ | toolz: shutdown -r mow ? you need to be able to connect to it of course |
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| 13:07.07 | EduardeCalibal | shutdown -r now |
| 13:07.08 | toolz | I can connect to it |
| 13:07.13 | toolz | doesnt respond to it |
| 13:07.25 | toolz | nothing happens |
| 13:07.29 | wols_ | doesn't respond in what way? |
| 13:07.31 | EduardeCalibal | Need some time. |
| 13:07.44 | toolz | I send the command and there is no response, it shows me the command line |
| 13:07.44 | EduardeCalibal | Or you use the -t 0 option... |
| 13:08.17 | wols_ | toolz: things like "man ls" or such work tho? |
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| 13:10.24 | toolz | I used -t 0 option seems not to reboot but it disconnected me from shell access |
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| 13:12.32 | wols_ | well, a reboot means your shell is closed, so of course it has to disconnect you before it can reboot |
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| 13:14.16 | RIMAL | Hello,is there any appication in debian squeeze which has a gui to rip video dvds? |
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| 13:14.39 | tobiasBora | Hello ! |
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| 13:15.19 | tobiasBora | I've a problem : I've installed debian with not a lot of program (an I've installed graphical mode after) |
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| 13:16.31 | tobiasBora | And when internet isn't actif, and I open my computer, internet doesn't work (it's ok), but when I active internet, I've to reboot system If I want use internet |
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| 13:16.54 | dvs | !exit |
| 13:16.54 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
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| 13:17.05 | wols_ | tobiasBora: how do you get your IP? |
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| 13:18.00 | tobiasBora | wols_: it's in a private reseau and I've installed the programms by deffault |
| 13:18.15 | themill | RIMAL: debian-multimedia has a few options for that; /msg dpkg dmm |
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| 13:18.46 | tobiasBora | And When I say active internet it's because ethernet cable is plug in a little box and when I active internet |
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| 13:20.14 | RIMAL | thanks themill |
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| 13:22.34 | babilen | tobiasBora: Sorry, it is quite hard to understand what you are saying. What is your native language? |
| 13:23.09 | wols_ | !fr |
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| 13:23.31 | Rziz | Hm, I need to grab a few old libs from lenny whilst running wheezy. What repo should I add? |
| 13:23.43 | bahamas | i asked a question about a django app earlier. i'll ask it again and provide some extra details. the issue is that the app can't send email, but only outside. i tried sending an email on an internal address and it worked. what do i need to look at so i can send emails to outside addresses? |
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| 13:24.01 | wols_ | Rziz: none. download them manually and install with dpkg from packages.debian.org |
| 13:24.20 | wols_ | bahamas: your MTA |
| 13:24.29 | Rziz | wols_: thanks, i'll do that |
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| 13:25.21 | wols_ | Rziz: probably can't install them via dpkg tho, since they might clash with squeeze libs of the same name. possibly unpack with dpkg -x or so. depends on what you actually need to do |
| 13:25.43 | BrixSat | the upgrade should be easier :/ |
| 13:25.54 | bahamas | wols_: can you tell me exactly where? it's exim4, btw |
| 13:26.44 | themill | !smarthost |
| 13:26.44 | dpkg | A smart host is a type of mail relay server (typically provided by your ISP), which allows an SMTP server to route e-mail to an intermediate mail server, rather than directly to the recipient's server. |
| 13:27.33 | themill | bahamas: ^^ if you "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" you can tell exim to deliver mails to your another server that is set up properly for delivering them to their final destination |
| 13:28.12 | Rziz | wols_: i just need gtk1 and glib 1.2 for some old app, which was removed from squeeze |
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| 13:28.39 | Rziz | so there are no colliding squeeze libs to my knowledge |
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| 13:29.07 | bahamas | themill: the strange thing is that initially sending emails to the outside worked without me doing anything extra. when i tried this morning again, it stopped working |
| 13:29.41 | tobiasBora | Hello again, excuse me I've had a problem |
| 13:29.49 | tobiasBora | qsfd |
| 13:30.54 | tobiasBora | So, I've a problem with my internet connection when internet isn't plug when I start computer |
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| 13:31.22 | tobiasBora | I think it's because a paquage is missing |
| 13:32.55 | gnarface | tobiasBora: but it works if the cable is plugged in at boot? sounds to me more like expected behavior from dhcp, but i'm just guessing |
| 13:33.49 | tobiasBora | gnarface: yes it work. |
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| 13:34.16 | dvs | tobiasBora: Sound like you want "allow-hotplug" instead of "auto" in your /etc/network/interfaces file. |
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| 13:34.23 | wols_ | bahamas: check mail.log first why it doesn't send your mail |
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| 13:35.54 | tobiasBora | gnarface: in fact, ethernet cable is always plug in computer but the eternet cable go in a little box who is plug in "livebox" and if this little box isn't alimentated (power) and I plug the little box after, I've to reboot computer. |
| 13:36.26 | tobiasBora | Do you understand me (excuse me but there are many words I don't know in English) |
| 13:36.57 | gnarface | tobiasBora: try doing this instead of rebooting: /etc/init.d/networking stop && /etc/init.d/networking start |
| 13:38.02 | tobiasBora | gnarface: I've did last time and it doesn't work |
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| 13:38.44 | tobiasBora | dvs: It's my file : #the loopback network interfaceauto lo |
| 13:38.44 | tobiasBora | iface lo inet loopback |
| 13:38.45 | tobiasBora | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:38.58 | babilen | tobiasBora: You might also want to take a look at ifplugd and netplug -- Does your interface come up when you run "ifdown -a ; ifup -a" ? |
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| 13:39.27 | bahamas | wols_: where should that be? in var? |
| 13:39.56 | dvs | tobiasBora: That's all? Are you using network-manager or wicd? |
| 13:40.01 | gnarface | hmm. that's a pretty empty interfaces file... |
| 13:40.04 | tobiasBora | dvs: excuse me I give again the file : |
| 13:40.05 | tobiasBora | # The loopback network interface |
| 13:40.05 | tobiasBora | auto lo |
| 13:40.05 | tobiasBora | iface lo inet loopback |
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| 13:40.38 | bahamas | wols_: /var/log/mail.log is empty |
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| 13:42.27 | dvs | !tell tobiasBora about paste |
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| 13:44.34 | tobiasBora | Hello again (excuse me but I'm not in graphical mode, and I don't know how use pastebinit, but after, I'll try to use it |
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| 13:45.18 | tobiasBora | Ok ! |
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| 13:46.00 | tobiasBora | Do you see what I'm writing ? |
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| 13:46.55 | bahamas | tobiasBora: yes |
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| 13:47.41 | babilen | tobiasBora: You can run "pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces" to paste the file -- you can also provide the additional argument "-b http://paste.debian.net" to paste it to that site |
| 13:47.47 | babilen | s/argument/option |
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| 13:49.45 | tobiasBora | so adresse is in : http://pastebin.com/CLcQg4iH |
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| 13:50.52 | tobiasBora | What I have to modifie ? |
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| 13:51.16 | twobitsprite | for some reason, in compiz, windows will open behind other windows. The behavior seems non-deterministic, sometimes the same window will open on top, sometimes it'll be behind everything or only some things... |
| 13:51.43 | babilen | tobiasBora: Hmm, that did not work. Could you make that "pastebinit -i /etc/network/interfaces -b http://paste.debian.net" please? |
| 13:53.26 | tobiasBora | it is : http://paste.debian.net/116647/ |
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| 13:54.54 | metalfan_ | hi |
| 13:55.09 | metalfan_ | ecc sry...computer was just shutting down as i saw your message |
| 13:55.15 | metalfan_ | ecc thx for the udev info |
| 13:56.06 | metalfan_ | ecc but isnt there a static mac on every eth# card? |
| 13:56.40 | tobiasBora | babilen: do you see what is not right ? |
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| 13:57.02 | babilen | tobiasBora: You probably want to change "allow-hotplug eth0" to "auto eth0" -- You can test if that worked with "ifdown -a ; ifup -a" -- I would still recommend to take a look at ifplugd and netplug if you want to bring up the interface whenever a cable is plugged in (or rather: the link becomes available) |
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| 13:58.08 | tobiasBora | What is ifdown -a and ifup -a ? |
| 13:59.18 | babilen | tobiasBora: Commands :) -- Read "man ifdown" *or* "man ifup" to learn about them. Read in particular the description of the "-a" option |
| 13:59.22 | tobiasBora | ifdown and ifup are not installed. I've to install ? |
| 13:59.47 | tobiasBora | (it is maybe the solution of the problem) |
| 13:59.50 | babilen | tobiasBora: You have to run them as root or with root privileges acquired with, for example, sudo |
| 14:00.09 | tobiasBora | babilen: yes right |
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| 14:02.17 | tobiasBora | babilen: so if I've understood ifup and if down it's for restart network ? What's the diference beetween /etc/init.d/networking restart and ifup ? |
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| 14:03.32 | babilen | tobiasBora: Not much -- Read the initscript -- It is basically calling "ifdown -a --exclude=lo" and "ifup -a --exclude=lo" |
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| 14:04.53 | sickgut | hello i have question |
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| 14:05.14 | babilen | sickgut: ask away |
| 14:05.42 | bahamas | can anyone guide me with this? what questions do i need to answer in order to be able to configure my mail server so that it sends emails to outside addresses? right now, all i know is that the mail application is exim4 |
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| 14:06.57 | babilen | bahamas: "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" will ask you some (elementary) questions. It is also a good idea to read /usr/share/doc/exim4-config/README.Debian.gz. |
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| 14:07.18 | sickgut | im making a script to remove a static file its a file that contains: "#!/bin/sh <newline> rm filename " and it works but i want it to make a popup message saying that it has removed the file. I can use: nano removemessage.txt to open a .txt message as a confirmation but i want a message that doesnt lt the user edit it . |
| 14:08.21 | sickgut | the script has a shortcut in the desktop, i want a popup confirmation that the program did its things when the user clicks on it, so that it doesnt apprear that the icon link thing did nothing |
| 14:08.21 | twobitsprite | sickgut: check out dialog |
| 14:08.23 | stew | sickgut: using a gui? or a text only interface? |
| 14:08.27 | sickgut | gui |
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| 14:08.42 | sickgut | ok dialog |
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| 14:09.00 | sickgut | dialog --help? |
| 14:09.06 | twobitsprite | man dialog |
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| 14:09.12 | sickgut | k thanks |
| 14:09.28 | stew | sickgut: xmessage or notify-send |
| 14:09.30 | wide_awake | hello |
| 14:09.57 | bahamas | babilen: yes, i tried going through that. the problem is that my knowledge of server configuration is also elementary. for example, i don't know what option to choose on the first prompt. |
| 14:09.57 | wide_awake | can I run a ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386 executable on a x86-64 system? |
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| 14:10.13 | sickgut | looks like i have xmessage on my system |
| 14:10.16 | twobitsprite | wide_awake: yes, but you might need 32-bit libs |
| 14:10.18 | stew | sickgut: xmessage you probably already have, notify-send is fancier but requires the libnotify-bin package which you might not have |
| 14:10.19 | sickgut | thank you very much for your help |
| 14:10.25 | sickgut | k |
| 14:10.27 | wide_awake | twobitsprite, ia32 package? |
| 14:10.42 | sickgut | i thnk i got xmessage k and sorted i can read the help so i thnk im sorted now |
| 14:10.46 | sickgut | thanks foryour help |
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| 14:11.07 | twobitsprite | wide_awake: ia32 is intel itanium... you want i386 |
| 14:11.33 | stew | twobitsprite: no, ia32 is i386 |
| 14:11.34 | wide_awake | hrm |
| 14:11.35 | sickgut | omg its so simple lol |
| 14:11.49 | babilen | twobitsprite: The package are, unfortunately, called ia32-libs-??? |
| 14:11.49 | wide_awake | a search for i386 brings up the ia32-libs pkg |
| 14:11.53 | stew | twobitsprite: ia64 is itanium |
| 14:11.54 | wide_awake | this is confusing :-/ |
| 14:12.07 | twobitsprite | stew: ohh... you're right :P just not used to it being called ia32 :P |
| 14:12.12 | babilen | twobitsprite: You are thinking of ia64 |
| 14:12.13 | wide_awake | hehe, ok |
| 14:12.19 | wide_awake | so is ia32-libs the right one? |
| 14:12.22 | babilen | wide_awake: yes |
| 14:12.27 | wide_awake | cool, thanks |
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| 14:13.01 | babilen | wide_awake: There are additional packages like ia32-libs-gtk, just check which libraries you need. You could also search for them with "apt-file" -- /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 14:13.05 | wide_awake | before I do this, am I barking up the right tree if attempting to run an executable gives me the error: "No such file or directory"? |
| 14:13.22 | babilen | wide_awake: That most likely means that some libraries are missing, yes |
| 14:13.32 | babilen | (or that the file is indeed not there) |
| 14:13.36 | wide_awake | the file is there |
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| 14:13.45 | wide_awake | that's what had me scratching my head for a while :-/ |
| 14:13.58 | wide_awake | and trying to run a non-existent file gives a different error |
| 14:14.01 | twobitsprite | wide_awake: yeah, it's an unfortunate error message... |
| 14:14.01 | metalfan_ | hi |
| 14:14.06 | babilen | wide_awake: It would probably be best to just obtain a native 64bit version of that software though. |
| 14:14.13 | wide_awake | oh, no it doesn't |
| 14:14.37 | wide_awake | babilen, I tried that - but I can't seem to make any sense of the build process :( |
| 14:14.48 | twobitsprite | wide_awake: what are you building? |
| 14:14.58 | wide_awake | twobitsprite, Intel's "Kiratool" |
| 14:15.07 | wide_awake | a util for managing their remote management console thingy |
| 14:15.09 | wide_awake | http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19522 |
| 14:15.13 | twobitsprite | ohh... never heard of it :P |
| 14:15.16 | babilen | wide_awake: Upstream might be helpful there. Which software are we talking about here? |
| 14:15.30 | wide_awake | babilen, Kiratool from Intel |
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| 14:15.45 | babilen | wide_awake: yeah, i've just seen it |
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| 14:16.31 | wide_awake | here's the link to the binary, fwiw |
| 14:16.32 | wide_awake | http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?lang=eng&DwnldID=19523 |
| 14:18.58 | babilen | What problems do you have when you try to build it? The description of the binary says "The Software contains open source software" does that mean that you *all* of it is open source (and therefore that the self-compiled versions is equivalent to the binary) or are some parts proprietary? |
| 14:19.10 | wide_awake | I don't know |
| 14:19.12 | babilen | s/you *all*/*all* |
| 14:19.24 | babilen | Ok, what problems do you run into when you build it? |
| 14:19.36 | wide_awake | no Makefile |
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| 14:19.54 | wide_awake | well, I installed ia32-libs and now it runs |
| 14:20.01 | wide_awake | so that's progress :) |
| 14:20.05 | wide_awake | thanks |
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| 14:20.15 | babilen | yay |
| 14:20.27 | DarkKnightCZ | hi, is there any easy way, how to succesfully install courier-maildrop with mysql? |
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| 14:21.15 | wide_awake | FFFFF |
| 14:21.53 | stew | DarkKnightCZ: aptitude install maildrop courier-authlib-mysql then create a maildropmysql.config |
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| 14:23.12 | DarkKnightCZ | stew: ok, thanks |
| 14:25.13 | babilen | tobiasBora: all fine now? |
| 14:25.17 | twinkie_addict | i keep gett these ocasional popup dialogs that say i have had a kernel failure would i like to the bug team wich i do i then i reboot and kenal acts fine no warning boxes for a little wile |
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| 14:25.43 | twinkie_addict | im on on 6.0.1 |
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| 14:34.09 | karlpinc | twinkie_addict: You might want to check the hardware. Install memtest86+ and run it overnight. |
| 14:34.41 | up23four | ** FOMA F905i ** |
| 14:34.41 | up23four | ** 1 pack ** 10 of 10 slots open, Min: 0.1KB/s |
| 14:34.41 | up23four | ** Bandwidth Usage ** Current: 0.0KB/s, Record: 53.6KB/s |
| 14:34.41 | up23four | ** To request a file, type "/msg up23four xdcc send #x" ** |
| 14:34.41 | up23four | ** To request details, type "/msg up23four xdcc info #x" ** |
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| 14:34.52 | jelly | up23four: what |
| 14:35.15 | jelly | !ops bot at up23four |
| 14:35.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly complains about: bot at up23four |
| 14:35.27 | jelly | -up23four- VERSION iroffer v1.4.b02 [20050116230512], http://iroffer.org/ - CYGWIN_NT-5.1 1.5.12(0.116/4/2) |
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| 14:36.34 | babilen | ta! |
| 14:36.41 | jelly | nottayet |
| 14:36.42 | themill | jelly: thanks. I thought he'd given up after last night's efforts... |
| 14:36.57 | jelly | how about a swift kick |
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| 14:37.07 | stew | that's probably something staff should look at |
| 14:37.36 | jelly | bonus points for using cygwin ;-) |
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| 14:39.56 | metalfan_ | where can i see the default squeeze kernel config, if the kernel i want to look at isnt running? |
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| 14:40.21 | stew | metalfan_: is it installed? |
| 14:40.25 | metalfan_ | yes |
| 14:40.33 | stew | metalfan_: /boot/config-$version |
| 14:40.40 | twinkie_addict | hardware is fine ran full system test from the bios diagnostics tool |
| 14:40.44 | stevieman | Ive got a cron question. I'm a bit confused about the syntax. Should it look something like * * * * * user /path/script.sh or * * * * * user [ -x /path/script.sh ] && /path/script.sh |
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| 14:41.13 | metalfan_ | that would run every minute....a bit much |
| 14:41.29 | metalfan_ | how often do you want to run the script? |
| 14:41.40 | stew | stevieman: it depends on where you are putting it |
| 14:41.54 | stevieman | stew: CRON.D |
| 14:42.01 | jelly | stevieman: depends on what you want it to do, and also depending where you put it the "user" field might be not needed |
| 14:42.16 | stew | stevieman: if you mean /etc/cron.d you would need the user part |
| 14:42.39 | stevieman | stew: Yah that is what I meant |
| 14:43.17 | stevieman | So do I need the [ -x ] && bit or is that not necessary? |
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| 14:43.46 | stew | stevieman: do you expect that it is possible that the script won't exist or that it might exist but not be executable? |
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| 14:44.45 | stevieman | stew: I doubt very much that it won't exist but there is always an outside chance that someone could delete the script |
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| 14:45.07 | stew | stevieman: if the script is missing, do you want the job to silently fail? or do you want it to email the user? |
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| 14:46.03 | llua | needs to enable sasl. |
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| 14:46.24 | ayanes | drugs.. |
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| 14:46.41 | stew | llua: no, instead, ignore the spam |
| 14:46.42 | infernix | argh. i just deleted libc.so.6. |
| 14:46.45 | infernix | facepalms |
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| 14:47.05 | llua | @stew, was a joke. |
| 14:47.07 | jelly | infernix: good thing it's a symlink |
| 14:47.08 | themill | infernix: that's only a symlink |
| 14:47.13 | daemonkeeper | Enabling SASL is nonetheless a good idea, even if a spammer advocates it ;) |
| 14:47.20 | jelly | daemonkeeper: there is no sasl. |
| 14:47.34 | charliesheen | llua: this is freenode, people don't joke here |
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| 14:47.37 | jelly | sasl != ssl |
| 14:47.41 | charliesheen | irc is srs biznz |
| 14:48.00 | daemonkeeper | jelly: * 900 daemonkeeper!Arno@unaffiliated/metalfoo metalfoo You are now logged in as metalfoo. * CAP: SASL authentication successful |
| 14:48.28 | jelly | daemonkeeper: hah, I stand corrected |
| 14:48.53 | infernix | actually, this box went from 32bit>64 lenny a while back and am now upgrading to squeeze. so what's actually broken now is that /lib64 = empty while it should be a link to /lib, and apparently everything expects /lib64/libc.so.6 to exist |
| 14:49.10 | daemonkeeper | jelly: SASL is used as replacement for the annoying NickServ authentication procedure </OT> |
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| 14:50.27 | santi | Hello! I'm searching the name of a daemon. It's job is to start other daemons when they suddenly shut down or restart the when somethings goes wrong. Could you please help me? Thank you! |
| 14:50.32 | jelly | daemonkeeper: I didn't know IRC had a capability command at all |
| 14:50.48 | jelly | santi: monit? runit? daemontools? |
| 14:50.57 | jelly | systemd? :-D |
| 14:51.05 | infernix | LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libc.so.6 /bin/ls yields nothing. guess it's time to get that backup |
| 14:51.37 | justin_ | infernix: /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 /bin/ls |
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| 14:51.41 | stew | infernix: you can't just recreate this link? |
| 14:51.41 | justin_ | infernix: that work? |
| 14:51.50 | jelly | infernix: you don't have a featureful static shell like busybox or sash installed? |
| 14:51.56 | infernix | justin_: golden. thanks |
| 14:51.59 | justin_ | busybox-static ftw :) |
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| 14:52.41 | infernix | nice save |
| 14:52.54 | infernix | always sucks to have to reboot halfway a dist-upgrade |
| 14:52.57 | infernix | thanks! |
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| 14:53.26 | santi | jelly: Thanks for your fast answer. Do you have some other daemons on hand? |
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| 14:54.06 | justin_ | jelly, resident #debian daemon master |
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| 14:54.44 | stevieman | stew: fail silently for now, I don't have a mail server setup on the machine |
| 14:55.23 | stew | stevieman: then you want the [ -x ] test, i guess |
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| 14:56.02 | stevieman | stew: Well that was kinda my question. I have an existing cron job with the -x and I wasn't sure what the -x meant :) |
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| 14:56.53 | themill | stevieman: "[" is actually a command that's being run (shell builtin, really). "help [" or "man [" or "man dash" for details of what it does. |
| 14:56.54 | stew | stevieman: "man [" |
| 14:57.02 | jelly | santi: I can't tell if you're joking |
| 14:57.16 | santi | jelly: Pardon? |
| 14:57.38 | jelly | <santi> jelly: Thanks for your fast answer. Do you have some other daemons on hand? |
| 14:58.07 | santi | jelly: No of the names sounds like this I saw long time ago :( |
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| 14:58.53 | jelly | santi: oh. apt-cache search monitor service. apt-cache search monitor gives way too many results |
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| 14:59.07 | santi | jelly: Thank you! |
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| 14:59.18 | WL_ | does debian have jpeg libs packaged that use MMX ? |
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| 14:59.29 | WL_ | if not, what's the best way to get them? |
| 14:59.32 | WL_ | i need them for zoneminder |
| 14:59.43 | WL_ | they are supposed to reduce load by half |
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| 14:59.55 | stevieman | I would never have thought to do a man [ |
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| 15:01.17 | jelly | oh look, someone packaged Java Service Wrapper |
| 15:01.27 | metalfan_ | (hd0,msdos1) what is msdos1 in this grub config snippet ? |
| 15:02.13 | jelly | eh, an abandoned experimental package |
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| 15:03.52 | ansgar | WL_: amd64 binaries can use MMX without problems. |
| 15:04.22 | WL_ | ansgar: i got a 32bit install |
| 15:04.27 | WL_ | its a virtual machine |
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| 15:07.31 | jelly | WL_: I think there is no libjpeg-turbo in debian yet, if that's what you're after |
| 15:08.44 | jelly | !dbugs 612341 |
| 15:08.47 | dpkg | #612341:W[wnpp] RFP: libjpeg-turbo -- an accelerated libjpeg library (); Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:21:01 UTC [] |
| 15:08.50 | WL_ | jelly: so the best way is to compile it? |
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| 15:09.13 | jelly | WL_: and build your zoneminder app against it, yes |
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| 15:11.50 | rswarbrick | Hi! I'm trying to work out why my wireless is dying with the latest rc kernel. Everything works automatically with a hand-rolled 2.6.36 and it doesn't even detect the card with my 2.6.39 build. Anyone got any ideas on what to check? |
| 15:12.06 | rswarbrick | (sorry- it's iwlagn and firmware is installed_ |
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| 15:16.03 | cahoot | looked at lkml.org? |
| 15:16.17 | rswarbrick | cahoot, Is that to me? |
| 15:16.22 | cahoot | yes |
| 15:16.38 | rswarbrick | Hmm, googling for related terms didn't seem to find anything |
| 15:16.54 | jelly | is .39 even out yet |
| 15:17.15 | rswarbrick | jelly, This is an rc (from the nouveau tree |
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| 15:19.11 | matte3560 | Hi guys, I need some help with groups and file creation |
| 15:19.17 | rswarbrick | My question is really whether anyone knows how to get iwlagn to tell me what's not working... |
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| 15:19.52 | rswarbrick | Hmm. Well, I guess I'll start digging around in the source and see if I can spot any plausible changes. Thanks. |
| 15:20.00 | jelly | rswarbrick: first check whether you have the correct firmware versions installed |
| 15:20.13 | rswarbrick | jelly, Well, it works with an older kernel so I guess so |
| 15:20.46 | rswarbrick | Also, don't you normally get a missing firmware message in the syslog? |
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| 15:21.02 | matte3560 | I've got a storage disk on my server that has multiple users using the same files. Samba is set up so that all files are created under the storage group, but when a local user makes a file (not through samba) the group is the same as the username. Because of that Samba users cant access those files. How do i force users to create files with the same group as the directory? |
| 15:21.13 | jelly | rswarbrick: not necessarily -- newer drivers might require newer firmware. If however you do, that is, if the module is loaded properly, and the device appears in ifconfig, and you want to dig in source, |
| 15:21.30 | rswarbrick | The device doesn't make it to ifconfig |
| 15:22.06 | jelly | rswarbrick: you can do a bisection search and figuer out which kernel change makes it stop working. The procedure is explained at eg. http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2010/02/msg00937.html |
| 15:22.13 | rswarbrick | But there are no complaining messages in the syslog :( so I was wondering where to start hunting. Ah well, I think I'll have to come back to this another day. |
| 15:22.31 | rswarbrick | Yeah a bisect might work. I was hoping to avoid compiling 10 kernels though :) |
| 15:22.33 | jelly | rswarbrick: compare kern.log output for when the module is loaded on the old and new kernels. |
| 15:23.08 | rswarbrick | Right. Time to reboot and break my wireless again. Thanks for the help everybody! |
| 15:23.18 | jelly | ,versions firmware-iwlagn |
| 15:23.18 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'firmware-iwlagn' was found in i386. |
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| 15:23.26 | jelly | ,versions firmware-iwlwifi |
| 15:23.29 | judd | Package firmware-iwlwifi on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny2; lenny-backports/non-free: 0.27~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.28; sid/non-free: 0.29; wheezy/non-free: 0.29 |
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| 15:26.26 | d0uglas | hi folks. if I give/change user www-data's password, will anything bad happen? |
| 15:27.53 | d0uglas | or just put in an ALL thing into sudoers? |
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| 15:27.55 | stew | d0uglas: why would you have someone login as www-data? |
| 15:28.32 | d0uglas | well probably not a reason I picture you congratulating me for |
| 15:28.46 | d0uglas | nevermind -- i'll google at my own risk |
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| 15:29.40 | d0uglas | well no, it's everyone's risk -- I just want to set a CMS to be able to write through FTP but I seem to need to keep the directories and files chowned as www-data |
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| 15:31.46 | matte3560 | how can i make a folder with mkdir that has permissions 775 by default? |
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| 15:32.17 | twobitsprite | matte3560: check out umask |
| 15:32.51 | matte3560 | is that the only way? i only want to do this in a public folder |
| 15:33.38 | stew | matte3560: you can use extended acls |
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| 15:37.24 | twobitsprite | matte3560: I don't understand what you're trying to do... |
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| 15:38.15 | metalfan_ | any idea what might be wrong with this grub.cfg? http://paste.pound-python.org/show/6439/ somehow the system does not start with this, its remote hosted so i dont know when it hangs or any error messages. the system has one drive, sda1=root, sda2=home, sda3=swap |
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| 15:38.54 | matte3560 | twobitsprite: i have a server with a bittorrent client, and i want to be able to download to my storage drive and have my samba users access it (bt user and samba users have a common group) |
| 15:38.58 | babilen | matte3560: http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions#Access_Control_Lists_in_Linux (for example, multiple other manuals/tutorials exist on the net) -- Pay attention to the inherited permissions later on |
| 15:39.24 | babilen | !tell matte3560 -about acl |
| 15:39.32 | babilen | matte3560: dpkg sent you some more links |
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| 15:39.56 | matte3560 | allright, i'll have a look |
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| 15:41.53 | Chotaz^ | Hey everyone |
| 15:42.13 | babilen | welcome |
| 15:42.13 | Chotaz^ | I'd like to know if it's possible to backup all my user accounts from a machine and restore them alter to another one |
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| 15:42.19 | ragnar76 | hi all |
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| 15:42.24 | Chotaz^ | ty babilen |
| 15:42.42 | sunson | if I see high 'errors' on an ethernet interface, what does it mean? |
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| 15:43.05 | jhutchins_lt | Chotaz^: Yes, it's tricky but it can be done. |
| 15:43.17 | dkr | Chotaz^: tar -zcpf backup.tgz /home /etc/passwd /etc/shadow |
| 15:43.31 | ragnar76 | i need to connect an old computer to my pc via nullmodem. all howto's i find are about agetty. is agetty the same as the getty in /etc/inittab? |
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| 15:43.51 | dkr | you just have to make sure you don't have uid conflicts when restoring |
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| 15:45.33 | Chotaz^ | dkr, jhutchins_lt, thanks guys :) |
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| 15:46.15 | dkr | Chotaz^: another possible gotcah, user-specific crontabs/mail spools in /var/spool |
| 15:47.07 | jhutchins_lt | rgr: getty''s are for generating a console, often via a modem. Minicom is a common modem application. You need to tell a getty to listen to the serial port, and use minicom or something on the other system to make the connection. |
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| 15:47.26 | jhutchins_lt | ragnar76: That was for you, sorry rgr. |
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| 15:48.06 | ragnar76 | jhutchins: np |
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| 15:48.47 | frankie4 | hi,just installed with lxde and Lilo. I think its wiped a partition at the end of my disk-help! |
| 15:48.52 | linuxfreck | ragnar76, http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Serial/serial-console.html |
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| 15:49.25 | ragnar76 | linuxfreck: i'll have a look. thx |
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| 15:51.31 | frankie4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:53.30 | babilen | frankie4: Why lilo? Does os-prober detect windows? Why do you think that "it" (what are you referring to) wiped a partition? |
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| 15:54.32 | frankie4 | babilen a moment of weakness. fdisk doesn't show it but the installer lists it |
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| 15:55.40 | frankie4 | the ntfs partition that is. 1 year of work is on itso paramount that I recover it |
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| 15:56.16 | Mmike | How do I find files that have a+w atrribute set? |
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| 15:57.09 | babilen | frankie4: Ok, first of all: Why lilo? Does os-prober detect your ms windows installation? Could you install ntfs-3g and can you mount the NTFS filesystem? |
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| 15:57.19 | Mmike | heh -perm |
| 15:57.20 | Mmike | thnx :) |
| 15:57.20 | babilen | !tell frankie4 about ntfs-3g |
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| 15:58.43 | frankie4 | babilen I tried Lilo just to try it. no reason. ntfs-3g was already installed apparently though I had a very. broken apt |
| 15:59.08 | themill | Mmike: remember that "a+w" isn't a single attribute, it's three; find's -perm requires a bit of reading and thought to see how you should use it. |
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| 15:59.12 | frankie4 | sorry for slow response. on phone. installing deb gnome ATM |
| 15:59.43 | babilen | Ok, I would recommend to use grub2 (install grub-pc) -- Can you mount the NTFS partition manually (see the link from dpkg for particulars) -- How is apt broken? |
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| 16:00.37 | Mmike | themill, yeps, just discovering all of it right now :) |
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| 16:01.44 | frankie4 | babilen apt wouldn't let me install anything. after seeing data partition is still there in installer I feel better but windows still isn't sttarting. I switched back to grub |
| 16:02.37 | babilen | frankie4: Ok, does "os-prober" find the Windows installation and can you mount the NTFS partition manually? (/me will stop repeating questions now and just wait for answers) :) |
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| 16:03.30 | babilen | frankie4: Which installation image did you use for the install? Do you have online repositories configured in /etc/apt/sources.list ? -- /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 16:03.39 | frankie4 | BA silent yeah sorry just about to check now I ha e a system to do something's bg |
| 16:04.23 | babilen | BA? bg? |
| 16:05.24 | frankie4 | deb squeeze lxde live |
| 16:06.13 | frankie4 | on phone. BA was supposed to be your. name! |
| 16:06.34 | babilen | live? Check your /etc/apt/sources.list and add repostitories if needed. Run "aptitude update" afterwards. What about os-prober and mounting? |
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| 16:06.41 | frankie4 | bg was "on" |
| 16:06.54 | babilen | ah :) |
| 16:06.58 | babilen | frankie4: Can't you get online on the system itself? |
| 16:07.20 | frankie4 | just installed osprober |
| 16:07.33 | frankie4 | Ivan now give me 2! |
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| 16:08.18 | frankie4c | hi babilen |
| 16:08.23 | silidan | hey anyone here using debian sid? (i cant install the 32bit opengl drivers from nvidia which depend on libgl1-nvidia-alternatives-ia32, cause that package fails to install: update-alternatives: error: alternative path /usr/lib32/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1 doesn't exist. ) |
| 16:08.41 | babilen | os-prober is a recommendation of grub-common and should have been installed when you installed grub-pc |
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| 16:09.11 | frankie4c | ok, so on computer now, and here goes, os-prober shows: /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain, /dev/sda2:Windows Recovery Environment (loader):Windows1:chain, and /dev/sda5:Debian GNU/Linux (6.0.1):Debian:linux |
| 16:09.29 | babilen | silidan: See /topic -- But I guess you have to wait until the dependencies arrive in sid. Install those from wheezy for the time being. |
| 16:09.36 | frankie4c | babilen: ntfs-3g is already installed, and no go on the ntfs partitions |
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| 16:10.12 | frankie4c | i think lilo really messed up the ntfs partitions on the mbr. especially as windows doesn't boot. it gets to the part where it looks like its about to read data off the disk. |
| 16:10.12 | babilen | frankie4c: Ok, lets fix the bootloader first. Could you run "update-grub" and paste the output to http://paste.debian.net please? |
| 16:10.19 | frankie4c | sure |
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| 16:10.42 | frankie4c | babilen: i'm running from live gnome atm though |
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| 16:10.59 | frankie4c | should i install the gnome system to the drive to continue? |
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| 16:11.01 | stew | silidan: have you checked the bts? if there isn't a bug filed about this yet, you should file one |
| 16:11.05 | babilen | frankie4c: You might also have to run "grub-install /dev/sdX" (X \in {a,b,c,...} probably a) |
| 16:11.17 | babilen | !tell frankie4c -about fixmbr |
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| 16:11.24 | babilen | frankie4c: chroot into the system first |
| 16:11.39 | frankie4c | babilen: chroot? |
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| 16:12.03 | babilen | frankie4c: See the message from dpkg -- You are basically using a live cd right now, don't you? |
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| 16:12.22 | frankie4c | yep, that's right |
| 16:12.44 | frankie4c | when i switch to other console, will i lose this desktop? do i need to make a nopte of all those commands? |
| 16:13.03 | babilen | nopte? |
| 16:13.16 | frankie4c | note |
| 16:13.24 | frankie4c | heh, my typing isn't much better on a real keyboard! |
| 16:13.31 | babilen | frankie4c: Just open a terminal and work in there. No need to leave the graphical environment for this. |
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| 16:14.06 | uwjweq | How do I install ctan packages in debian 6? I can not find tlmgr in the repositories. |
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| 16:14.36 | silidan | stew: no i havent checked, im not used to the BTS, it looks kinda complicated to me... |
| 16:14.57 | frankie4c | ok, will try, thanks |
| 16:15.08 | babilen | uwjweq: Look at dh-make-perl |
| 16:15.10 | stew | silidan: well you should get used to the bts, or consider staying away from unstable |
| 16:15.14 | movl | uwjweq: 'aptitude search tex' |
| 16:15.27 | uwjweq | babilen: Not cpan. |
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| 16:15.37 | themill | uwjweq: many useful things are already packaged. The things that are not you can manually install into your own texmf tree. |
| 16:15.52 | babilen | uwjweq: Argh, yes, sure. I realised my mistake a second after posting it. Which packages are you interested in? Most are already packaged |
| 16:16.02 | uwjweq | glossary |
| 16:16.23 | frankie4c | babilen: i'm confused about the target here: mount --bind /dev /target/dev |
| 16:16.28 | babilen | uwjweq: You are looking for texlive-latex-extra -- "apt-cache search latex glossary" |
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| 16:16.42 | frankie4c | ie: mount --bind /dev /media/sometarget/dev ? |
| 16:16.49 | babilen | uwjweq: Or use apt-file to search for the package_name.sty directly -- /msg dpkg apt-file |
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| 16:17.19 | uwjweq | babilen: None found. I move the files manually. |
| 16:17.22 | themill | uwjweq: most debian tex packages include the latex packages/styles they provide in their package description so apt-cache works quite nicely. apt-file is a useful fallback too. |
| 16:17.38 | uwjweq | themill: Tried both already. |
| 16:17.39 | themill | uwjweq: what version of debian are you using? |
| 16:17.42 | babilen | frankie4c: It is assumed that you have your debian installation (the root partition of it) mounted to /target -- substitute it with whatever is applicable |
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| 16:18.02 | proti | Morning |
| 16:18.11 | proti | Got a problem on sid-sparc |
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| 16:18.42 | uwjweq | 6 |
| 16:18.43 | proti | Since glibc upgrade 2.13, got segfault with host and nslookup command |
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| 16:19.04 | uwjweq | Laters. |
| 16:19.09 | themill | uwjweq: as babilen said, that the texlive-latex-extra package has what you need |
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| 16:19.29 | proti | dmesg says error 30001 in libc-2.13.so[f7744000+16a000] |
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| 16:20.26 | themill | proti: you'll get far more help in #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net; see if these problems are already in the bts, however. |
| 16:20.42 | proti | themill: Thanks, I'll look at it. |
| 16:20.47 | babilen | uwjweq: What is the name of the package exactly? Is it http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/glossary/ ? |
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| 16:21.27 | frankie4c | babilen: http://pastebin.com/DBhHLRGe |
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| 16:22.44 | babilen | frankie4c: Ok, install grub to your harddrive (most likely "grub-install /dev/sda") and can you paste the output of os-prober too? |
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| 16:23.10 | babilen | frankie4c: Is os-prober installed in the chroot as well? |
| 16:23.20 | frankie4c | babilen: that was with running update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever" |
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| 16:23.31 | frankie4c | babilen: not yet |
| 16:23.34 | babilen | frankie4c: If not, make sure that it is and repeat the exercise |
| 16:23.59 | babilen | frankie4c: I hope that you didn't run /dev/whatever but substituted "whatever" with something sensible :) |
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| 16:24.42 | frankie4c | babilen: i put /dev/sda5 |
| 16:24.52 | frankie4c | or, should it be sda not hte partition? |
| 16:24.55 | babilen | frankie4c: Please paste the exact commands as well, as it is sometimed hard to guess what you've done by just looking at the output. |
| 16:24.56 | silidan | what e-mail service should i use if i want to stay anonym? (the BTS will publish the e-mail address...) |
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| 16:25.15 | babilen | frankie4c: No, you *don't* install to a partition but to the block device itself (i.e. /dev/sda) |
| 16:25.48 | frankie4c | babilen: in that case, installation finished. no error reported |
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| 16:26.39 | babilen | frankie4c: What about os-prober? Install that in the chroot and repeat the grub configuration |
| 16:26.43 | frankie4c | babilen: in the chroot, os-prober says "cannot find list of partitions! (try mounting /sys). |
| 16:27.14 | padhu | Debians, How can I access shared files Windows machine? I need GUI application like network neighbourhood on Puppy linux |
| 16:27.36 | padhu | network neighbourhood samba* |
| 16:27.48 | amphi | padhu: there used to be something called linneighborhood if I recall correctly |
| 16:28.01 | babilen | frankie4c: Ah, reboot into the debian system and do it there -- Alternatively also mount /sys into the chroot -- mount -o bind /sys /target/sys -- mount -o bind /sys/pts /target/sys/pts |
| 16:28.18 | padhu | is it available in repo? |
| 16:28.42 | babilen | frankie4c: the last command is fubar -- don't do it. sorry, my mistake (would have been /dev/pts ... forget that) |
| 16:29.01 | frankie4c | babilen: interesting, after rerunning it, i get: http://pastebin.com/r9iV6cEc |
| 16:29.02 | amphi | padhu: try apt-cache search samba browser |
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| 16:30.00 | frankie4c | babilen: i'm confused, so what do you want me to do now? :) |
| 16:30.00 | babilen | frankie4c: yeah, bind mount /sys into the chroot (from outside the chroot) -- mount -o bind /sys /target/sys (replace /target with whatever is applicable) |
| 16:30.24 | frankie4c | babilen: so i run those two commands outside of the chroot? |
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| 16:31.03 | babilen | frankie4c: *one* command (namely mount -o bind /sys /target/sys) *outside the chroot* then "update-grub" *inside* the chroot â paste |
| 16:31.06 | padhu | amphi: i found samba2www, let me try |
| 16:31.33 | frankie4c | babilen: ahh, update and install or just update? |
| 16:31.44 | babilen | frankie4c: update, it is installed already |
| 16:31.47 | padhu | amphi: search result shows komba |
| 16:31.51 | babilen | (it is, isn't it?) |
| 16:32.40 | frankie4c | babilen: looks better - http://pastebin.com/index/r9iV6cEc |
| 16:32.54 | padhu | amphi: It is KDE based, I need application for gnome. |
| 16:33.09 | babilen | frankie4c: That was the old paste ;) |
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| 16:33.43 | frankie4c | babilen: no the old paste was without the windows 7 stuff i think |
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| 16:34.16 | babilen | frankie4c: The URL is the same |
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| 16:34.47 | frankie4c | oh, i think pastebin screwed up then. still it seems to have windows 7 listed in it now |
| 16:34.52 | lili_ | how can i print the help info of irssi??? |
| 16:35.12 | babilen | wonderful, I guess you can reboot your system now and take it from there. Windows 7 should boot too :) |
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| 16:35.19 | frankie4c | babilen: no the old paste was without the windows 7 stuff i think. still, does that mean i should be able to see the ntfs partitions now in the chroot? |
| 16:36.00 | babilen | frankie4c: The NTFS partition is completely unrelated to what we have been doing so far. (you should also purge lilo btw) |
| 16:36.09 | frankie4c | infact, i'll hold you to that - i'll reboot and see what happens! thanks babilen |
| 16:36.16 | frankie4c | yeah, how do i purge lilo? |
| 16:36.29 | frankie4c | purge it straight to the deepest depths of hell |
| 16:36.41 | babilen | "aptitude purge lilo" (might have been removed already, but purging does no harm) |
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| 16:36.54 | frankie4c | from within chroot |
| 16:37.07 | babilen | frankie4c: sure, you work on/in the system itself, not the live cd |
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| 16:37.40 | frankie4c | babilen: i get this: http://pastebin.com/8HgCsnFT |
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| 16:38.53 | babilen | frankie4c: nothing else? but its fine to reboot now ... you can do that later as well |
| 16:39.12 | frankie4c | ok - thanks, i'll be back (hopefully!) |
| 16:39.23 | babilen | frankie4c: What does "dpkg -l lilo|tail -1" give you now? (inside chroot) |
| 16:39.28 | babilen | or that ;) |
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| 16:41.41 | cheako | ne1 know if keyboard input can be sent to multiple tabs in gnome terminal? |
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| 16:41.59 | babilen | !ne1 |
| 16:42.00 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s). |
| 16:42.33 | cheako | sits in the corner with the dunts hat on. |
| 16:42.45 | stew | is that like a dunce hat? :) |
| 16:43.10 | cheako | Yeah, that's the one. |
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| 16:43.24 | cheako | ...didn't your teachers do anything like that? |
| 16:43.28 | babilen | cheako: I am not sure if that is possible. What are you trying to achieve? |
| 16:43.38 | cheako | like cluster ssh. |
| 16:43.45 | cheako | I did this in MGT. |
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| 16:44.18 | cheako | It was really sleak, basically input was sent to every tab connected to the current window. |
| 16:44.18 | babilen | cheako: No, things like that are considered inhumane in the country were I grew up. (but this is off-topic and if you want to discuss this further, you should take it to #debian-offtopic or #defocus) |
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| 16:45.11 | babilen | "MGT" being? |
| 16:45.23 | cheako | Multi-gnome terminal. |
| 16:45.43 | cheako | Perhaps I got the name all wrong. |
| 16:45.44 | themill | cheako: konsole can certainly do that |
| 16:47.04 | cheako | Could konsole take over GTs sessions? I've got things setup just the way I want right now. |
| 16:47.07 | babilen | Whatfor? |
| 16:47.37 | babilen | I don't understand why this is a needed feature, but meh ... |
| 16:47.39 | cheako | babilen: I have two servers each configured almost identically and I want to perform some operation on each of them. |
| 16:47.55 | themill | cheako: "take over"? whether you mean move the tty or import the settings, I doubt it's possible. |
| 16:48.07 | babilen | cheako: Why don't you use something like dsh or clusterssh then? |
| 16:48.42 | cheako | themill: Yeah, I */should/* be able to drag and drop GTs tabs onto KC and bam it should just work as expected. |
| 16:48.51 | babilen | cheako: Or pssh, or any of the other tools meant for tasks like that? |
| 16:49.38 | cheako | babilen: Too late. I've been working on these servers independently, but I just came to a cross roads where I'd like to have cluster ssh features... for a limited time. |
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| 16:50.10 | cheako | Should be a feature that's enabled and disabled, like inserting on vi. |
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| 16:50.39 | themill | cheako: that's precisely what it is in konsole; can't tell you anything about gnome-terminal though. |
| 16:50.41 | frankie4c | hi babilen. no to windows booting, and no to ntfs partitions being seen |
| 16:50.44 | babilen | cheako: What is wrong with, say, dsh for that? |
| 16:50.51 | cheako | Last, I'll just use gedit and past my commands. |
| 16:52.01 | cheako | babilen: Because this is something that I need for the next 20 lines or so. It has nothing todo with the previous 1000 lines or the next 5000. |
| 16:52.03 | babilen | frankie4c: Where is it not "seen" can you mount it manually? What happens when you try to boot windows? (but I haven't used ms windows or NTFS in ages (or never) and can't really help much with that.) |
| 16:52.11 | cheako | s/boot/do/ |
| 16:53.09 | cheako | wohh, I'm just way to excited right now. sorry if I'm being a pain, it's not myself typing right now. |
| 16:53.23 | cheako | Err not my true self. |
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| 16:55.01 | babilen | cheako: It is OK, I did not understand that you are sure that you'll never need that feature again. I tend to recommend solutions that are applicable in more situations than one, and didn't quite understand what such a terminal feature is useful for if you have all the cluster shells |
| 16:55.12 | frankie4c | babilen: when trying to boot windows, it just sits there with a frozen logo - that's normally only displayed for a few seconds. actually, i haven't tried to manually mount... normally, they're listed in places |
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| 16:56.42 | babilen | frankie4c: Try mounting it manually -- I also heard that some people had to remove/adapt an entry in /etc/fstab for that NTFS partition. No idea what is wrong with windows -- I guess that grub does its job because the logo comes up. |
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| 16:57.12 | frankie4c | babilen: i can mount the windows partition, which seems to be ok, however, the data partition at the end of the drive isn't listed in /dev nor fdisk |
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| 16:57.26 | cheako | babilen: The main lock here is that these severs ate NOT clustered. They simply both need the same shorewall configuration changes. As they are identical in this respect it dosen't make sence to do them one at a time, however for the other 90% of the time these servers would not have similar configurations. |
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| 16:57.41 | frankie4c | nano /etc/fstab |
| 16:57.44 | frankie4c | opps! |
| 16:57.49 | babilen | frankie4c: Is it not listed when you run "fdisk -l" |
| 16:58.23 | frankie4c | babilen: no. |
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| 16:58.35 | frankie4c | babilen: though, it is listed in the debian installer strangely |
| 16:58.38 | babilen | cheako: dsh is applicable for non-clusters as well (as are a bunch of other of these "cluster" shells ... You just define a set of hosts and ssh into them simultanously) |
| 16:59.24 | romgo | Hello guys, I am using ftpsync from debian's website to create a mirror of amd64 packages, and since The release of Squeeze, my mirror uses much more disk space. From 80Gb up to 129Go. Is that normal ? |
| 16:59.36 | cheako | babilen: I don't think you understand, why would I run dsh all the time... It's not something I'd know I'd be using until I needed it. |
| 16:59.54 | babilen | cheako: I understand, lets stop arguing about this :) |
| 17:00.23 | infernix | so just upgraded from lenny to squeeze, and after the first reboot, udev doesn't seem to be making any /dev/sdX nor /dev/disk* sd devices while my mdX devices (root=md0) do exist. does this ring a bell for anyone? |
| 17:00.31 | cheako | It's like back-space. Once every now and then you use it, so if you find a shell that dosen't support that feature it's mind boggling. |
| 17:00.43 | cheako | yeah. |
| 17:00.48 | babilen | frankie4c: Sorry, I have to leave now. I'll be back later. Or ask the other fine helpers in here for support. Good luck! |
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| 17:01.11 | silidan | stew: ok i filed a bug report with reportbug program |
| 17:01.36 | stew | silidan: great, thanks |
| 17:01.37 | infernix | also, if i manually create sda with MAKEDEV and run a vgscan, udev also doesn't create or populate /dev/[volumegroup]/[logical volume] |
| 17:01.53 | frankie4c | babilen - i'll be needing a miracle :( |
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| 17:02.54 | frankie4c | so... who could help me solve the problem as to why an ntfs partition on my drive isn't visible in fdisk -l but is shown in the debian installer? |
| 17:03.03 | frankie4c | i need access to it! |
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| 17:04.13 | infernix | doh. CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y. solved. |
| 17:05.10 | stew | frankie4c: does it show up in /proc/partitions? |
| 17:05.29 | stew | frankie4c: wait, do other partitions on the same drive show up? |
| 17:05.35 | delarge | hi, how can i see the deamons running in my PC ? |
| 17:05.47 | simonlnu | dae* |
| 17:05.55 | simonlnu | ps |
| 17:05.55 | pipeline | delarge: ps -ef | less |
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| 17:07.43 | metalfan_ | any idea what might be wrong with this grub.cfg? http://paste.pound-python.org/show/6439/ somehow the system does not start with this, its remote hosted so i dont know when it hangs or any error messages. the system has one drive, sda1=root, sda2=home, sda3=swap |
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| 17:09.31 | frankie4c | stew: the other partitions show up, just not this one - perhaps the most important one! |
| 17:09.31 | frankie4c | stew: want me to pastebin fdisk -l output? |
| 17:09.31 | frankie4c | stew: and no, not present in /proc/partitions |
| 17:09.31 | frankie4c | stew: i think installing lilo has fubarred the mbr. does this mean this partition is inaccessible? |
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| 17:10.42 | bgamari | If one installs a package from source what is the best way to get dpkg to satisfy dependencies on the package short of building a deb? |
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| 17:10.50 | frankie4c | sorry stew connection problems |
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| 17:11.05 | frankie4c | stew: to answer your question, no, not present in fdisk -l, nor /proc/partitions |
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| 17:11.35 | stew | frankie4c: sure, can you pastebin fdisk -l? |
| 17:11.44 | frankie4c | yep, 1 min |
| 17:12.19 | stew | bgamari: are you buildling something from source that also exists in debian? |
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| 17:12.55 | romgo | Does anyone is able to use pam_filter with the libpam-ldapd package ? |
| 17:12.58 | frankie4c | stew: http://pastebin.com/qRWqVCdu |
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| 17:13.21 | bgamari | stew: Yes, I intend on running the package from its repository |
| 17:14.33 | stew | frankie4c: there are 3 partitions labelled as NTFS there, its not one of those three? |
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| 17:14.55 | stew | bgamari: i'm not following you. you are going to compile it from source, but run it from a repository? |
| 17:15.05 | stew | bgamari: are you asking about the binary dependencies or the build-dependencies? |
| 17:15.22 | bgamari | stew: I'm sorry, poor choice of words. I just want dpkg to assume the package is installed |
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| 17:15.31 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 17:15.39 | bgamari | stew: I'm just going to be working on the package so I will be installing from source |
| 17:15.53 | frankie4c | stew: no, it's a 300gb partition |
| 17:15.59 | bgamari | and would rather not go through the overhead of building a new deb on every change |
| 17:16.07 | stew | bgamari: /msg dpkg equivs |
| 17:16.46 | stew | /dev/sda4 24341 60802 292870144 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS |
| 17:16.57 | stew | that's quite close to 300gb |
| 17:17.17 | frankie4c | stew: omg. o.m.g. i love you! |
| 17:17.26 | frankie4c | stew: the partition numbers have changed! |
| 17:18.05 | frankie4c | right, firswt things first, i get my last year off this computer! |
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| 17:34.43 | npmap | I've tried to rebuild the generic kernel package for x86 as outlined here: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-official . However, I get the ABI changed error on Squeeze with the latest sources. |
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| 17:36.05 | npmap | Could someone help me, please? I've looked this up already on google, but couldn't find a decent explanation and a solution which seemed sane. |
| 17:38.45 | Ogurd | don't rebuild the kernel and you are done |
| 17:39.06 | npmap | Ogurd: Thank you, that is not an option. |
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| 17:43.35 | jhutchins_lt | npmap: What are you trying to achieve? |
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| 17:44.57 | npmap | jhutchins_lt: I was trying to rebuild myself some kernel package with some backported patches. However, none of the affected functions seem to be on the list of functions with changed ABI. |
| 17:45.42 | jhutchins_lt | npmap: Do you understand what changed ABI means? |
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| 17:46.30 | jhutchins_lt | npmap: Yes, I understand you were trying to build your own kernel. Why? |
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| 17:47.59 | npmap | jhutchins_lt: I understand the most of it. However, I am not sure what I can do to fix this. I can tell you I've got my C background and a fair share of *nix history. |
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| 17:50.29 | wols_ | npmap: you can compile all of your sources with the same compiler for example |
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| 17:51.38 | yogurt2ungue | hello people, are there a repo of Sarge amd64? unofficial may be... |
| 17:51.52 | wols_ | yogurt2ungue: archive.debian.org |
| 17:52.21 | stew | i wouldn't have ended up on archive.debian.org I don't think |
| 17:52.27 | stew | ^i^it |
| 17:52.33 | wols_ | http://archive.debian.org/debian-amd64/dists/sarge/ |
| 17:52.42 | stew | ahh |
| 17:52.51 | wols_ | stew: pure luck tho :P |
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| 17:55.23 | yogurt2ungue | tks wols_ |
| 17:55.55 | npmap | This is the complete log: http://pastie.org/1889857 This is the same compiler, unless the gcc 4.3 from the repositories is not the same compiler which was used to build the original kernel packages. |
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| 17:58.30 | wols_ | npmap: so you aren't compiling a kernel but some modules only? |
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| 17:58.54 | npmap | wols_: fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen binary-arch_i386_none_686 |
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| 18:02.25 | alinux__99 | hi any recommended gui for reducing video size in linux |
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| 18:09.06 | twobitsprite | hmm... anyone know how to get to the last page of the message list in the mail(1) program? |
| 18:09.20 | twobitsprite | I know 'z' moves forward a page, but it doesn't seem to accept any arguments |
| 18:09.34 | acx0 | is it possible to disable the job status of a single command without doing set +m and then switching back to set -m ? |
| 18:09.41 | twobitsprite | (I have an old box with thousands of mails in it, but I'm only interested in the most recent ones) |
| 18:09.44 | acx0 | I've been trying to speed up the start-time of my terminal, and I've noticed that if I fork the sourcing of the bash_completion script, there's much less of a delay |
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| 18:10.23 | acx0 | only problem is that after the first command, it'll say [1]+ Done ... |
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| 18:11.44 | twobitsprite | nevermind, I'll just use mutt |
| 18:12.45 | alinux__99 | dkr, I just want to make it smaller in size, if the resolution must suffer I dont mind, it is 1 min at 65megs..AVI..taken with a Sony cam |
| 18:13.02 | dkr | twobitsprite: I was thinking to recommend that, but thought it might sound trite, :) |
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| 18:13.27 | resixian | just noticed, if i do `smbclient -l` i see nothing where the workgroup master should be, but i check nmbd.log and it says MYSERVER is now the domain master server |
| 18:14.20 | twobitsprite | dkr: :P |
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| 18:14.56 | twobitsprite | dkr: this is IRC... trite is what it's all about :P |
| 18:15.08 | dkr | alinux__99: I don't know of any gui for stuff like that. I've just used mencoder |
| 18:15.40 | Lee-t | I have a rather strange issue that only appears on rackspace VPS. I configure Debian 5.0 VPS servers a couple times a week. I follow the same steps each time, but with rackspace I get a rather strange behavior when trying to access a PHP site. I get the following error message when trying to load the site "Fatal error: require() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'context.core.inc' |
| 18:15.40 | Lee-t | (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in ��B on line 4" Notice the file name that is giving the error... it's garbled. This leads me to believe there is a character encoding type of issue. I've rebuilt the VPS from scratch several times, including running the locale generation command, but no luck. Any ideas on where to look next? Thanks! |
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| 18:16.23 | acu | is any mexican spanish person here ? |
| 18:17.33 | BlackFate | !es |
| 18:17.33 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 18:17.51 | Lee-t | Is installing locales package and running dpkg-reconfigure locales not the proper way to go about fixing this issue? |
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| 18:23.37 | bike | hey, im having some serious usb disk problems... it somehow seems to have entered write only mode, tried a lowlevel format from some app on hirens boot cd and all, happened when i tried installing ubuntu of all things to the stick from a iso image on the drive which it didnt like apparently, i ve tried fixing it with everythinhg exccept osx so far... nothing will touch it, im a debian user normally... device descriptor read/8, error -110 |
| 18:24.35 | bike | before this i get Sense Key : 0x0 [current] and [sdd] <<vendor>> ASC=0xff ASCQ=0xffASC=0xff <<vendor>> ASCQ=0xff |
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| 18:25.13 | bike | been using linux for 10 years+ now and ive never seen anything like this |
| 18:26.11 | bike | doing some googling i find people having a error -71 but not 110 |
| 18:26.27 | karlpinc | bike: Could be hardware/drive firmware. You could try removing it from the usb enclosure and putting it inside something. |
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| 18:26.47 | bike | its a usb stick thingie sorry typo |
| 18:27.00 | bike | 8 gigs sandisk |
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| 18:27.31 | bike | ive tried dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdb even |
| 18:27.39 | bike | it just freaks whenever i touch it |
| 18:28.01 | bike | 2.6.28 crashed on a laptop here just incerting it |
| 18:28.02 | linuxfreck | sounds like a hardware failure then |
| 18:28.07 | bike | might be |
| 18:28.14 | bike | its just a week old tho :S |
| 18:28.31 | bike | i can still see the files that were on the disk... dispite the low level format |
| 18:28.42 | bike | think they might be unreadable tho |
| 18:28.44 | linuxfreck | even more a hint that it's bad hardware |
| 18:29.02 | bike | strange big time |
| 18:29.06 | Bushmills | bike, what debian is that? |
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| 18:29.36 | bike | unstable, but i was in a ubuntu live session form the disk when it happened trying to install to the second partition on the stick .... |
| 18:29.48 | bike | or whas wheezy |
| 18:29.56 | bike | became unstable |
| 18:30.02 | Bushmills | then try the debian kernel, instead of that whatever-that-is |
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| 18:30.10 | bike | tried that |
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| 18:30.17 | bint | hi there |
| 18:30.37 | bike | im at my fams now just booting some mini linux from hirens trying to figure this out |
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| 18:30.46 | Blaster-san | Guys, i have installed drupal6 on apache+mysql armel Squeeze server. But trying to acess the server don´t point to drupal6. |
| 18:30.48 | Bushmills | stbut you are very specific about 2.6.28 kernel crashing |
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| 18:31.05 | Bushmills | what version was the debian kernel, and did it crash too? |
| 18:31.07 | bike | yep, think it was that kernel, it just went straight down |
| 18:31.14 | bike | 2.6.38 didnt |
| 18:31.22 | bike | that gives the errors i see here |
| 18:31.37 | resixian | is there a way to re-load the info from /etc/security/limits.conf ? |
| 18:31.40 | bint | i installed torrentflux on a pc, using bittornado for client... now i kinda wanna restart torrentflux or bittornado |
| 18:31.46 | bint | but i can't find the process or something |
| 18:31.46 | bike | latest kernel and the one before? ive got to check this out when i get home to be more spes. |
| 18:31.58 | bint | anybody knows how to stop / restart those ' |
| 18:32.00 | bike | this happens on every kenrel tho it seems |
| 18:32.07 | Blaster-san | since Debian installed and configured drupal6 what may i do to acess drupal? |
| 18:32.19 | Bushmills | "some mini linux ubuntu debian unstable" sounds like the mix can be the cause of the problem too |
| 18:32.19 | bike | i need to nuke the drive somehow |
| 18:32.29 | Bushmills | try debian stable |
| 18:32.53 | Blaster-san | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:33.06 | bike | i cant imagine it will work since every other os or kernel wont either, i need some low level app i htink that perhaps can fix thi |
| 18:33.07 | bike | s |
| 18:33.11 | Bushmills | bint: bittornado is just a user program which can be stopped with ctrl-c |
| 18:33.12 | bike | or perhaps someway of flasing it |
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| 18:33.28 | bike | i get these messages in my syslog no matter what linux i run |
| 18:33.35 | bint | Bushmills? with ctrl-c ? |
| 18:33.36 | bike | regardless of distro |
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| 18:33.53 | Bushmills | at least, the curse interface, btdownloadcurses, can |
| 18:34.04 | Bushmills | maybe you started btdownloadheadless? |
| 18:34.21 | bint | yes its headless |
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| 18:35.55 | bike | oh well., ill just return the damnedthing to the store and say, uuhmm it stopped working |
| 18:36.09 | Bushmills | no idea whether it has some command interface. you can still kill the process |
| 18:36.14 | perlsyntax | How many dvd do i need to install debian? |
| 18:36.23 | bike | 1 |
| 18:36.24 | bike | the first |
| 18:36.30 | bike | and really just the cd |
| 18:36.41 | bike | if you have an internet onnection |
| 18:36.42 | perlsyntax | what about the dvd |
| 18:36.49 | bike | more packages on it |
| 18:36.59 | perlsyntax | i just need the 1 dvd |
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| 18:37.17 | berserkr | hi |
| 18:37.20 | perlsyntax | i take it |
| 18:37.20 | Blaster-san | help! i have installed drupal6 but there is nothing on /var/www |
| 18:37.22 | bike | perlsyntax, yep |
| 18:37.25 | bint | yes but i can't find the process Bushmills |
| 18:37.32 | bint | there should be a PID number right? |
| 18:37.42 | bint | so i tried atop but i kinda can't find the process |
| 18:37.57 | bike | bint, ps x |
| 18:37.58 | berserkr | which is the best and the easiest way to join a computer with debian into a windows domain??? |
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| 18:38.08 | bint | aright bike i'll try |
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| 18:38.18 | berserkr | anyone know? |
| 18:38.45 | Bushmills | bint, yes, there should be a process, with a PID |
| 18:39.01 | simonlnu | Blaster-san: dpkg -L drupal6 |
| 18:39.02 | Bushmills | berserkr: samba. |
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| 18:39.14 | Bushmills | client side, mount -t cifs, or smbclient |
| 18:39.18 | bike | baah, i give up, <curses usb sticks> |
| 18:39.58 | Blaster-san | simonlnu: ok, but hot to make the files acessible via browser? |
| 18:40.05 | Blaster-san | how |
| 18:40.27 | berserkr | Bushmills: thanks. and to login the debian computer with an user in Active Directory? |
| 18:40.52 | simonlnu | configure your web server |
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| 18:41.51 | Bushmills | berserkr: the manpage of mount.cifs might tell you - i don't have that installed here |
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| 18:56.48 | karlpinc | berserkr: I always find the samba faq at samba.org helpful. Then I poke it with a stick. Don't forget to restart your daemons. You could also ask on #samba. |
| 18:59.04 | dkr | hrm, in squeeze I installed iceweasel-l10n-ja and restarted iceweasel but I still don't see japanese fonts on e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana |
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| 19:00.21 | Bushmills | dkr: try to change view -> character encoding |
| 19:01.10 | dkr | yeah, was just experimenting with that. should be unicode utf-8, though which it was by default |
| 19:01.43 | stew | dkr: you don't need a iceweasel language pack, you need japanese fonts |
| 19:01.59 | stew | dkr: (i can see all the characters on that page, without that language pack) |
| 19:02.00 | Bushmills | actually, those chars show here without having that package installed |
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| 19:02.35 | CyL | Is there any GTK fronted for LVM? |
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| 19:03.26 | dkr | stew: ah, yeah. I was just realizing that. trying to find which font package with a search \~djapanese |
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| 19:04.34 | stew | perhaps: aptitude search '~sfonts~djapanese' |
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| 19:05.44 | dkr | Bushmills: I think the iceweasel-l10n-ja is for stuff like making the iceweasel menus/pop-ups japanese. not for page content |
| 19:06.01 | dkr | since I see "chrome" stuff in the files it provides |
| 19:06.05 | stew | yes |
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| 19:08.21 | npmap | Could someone tell me how to submit patches for review to Debian? I've got one micro patch to submit, it's a backport. |
| 19:08.49 | stew | npmap: a backport to which version of which package? |
| 19:08.54 | dkr | !nmu |
| 19:08.54 | dpkg | [nmu] Non Maintainer Upload: when a Debian Developer who is not the package maintainer uploads an update of said package. See also <binnmu>. |
| 19:09.05 | stew | no, not nmu |
| 19:09.08 | stew | npmap: is it a patch for a version currently in unstable? |
| 19:09.29 | dkr | sorry, should have /msg-ed the query. :) |
| 19:09.33 | npmap | stew: It's a patch for squeeze's kernel. A backport of a spinlock patch from 2.6.34. |
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| 19:10.20 | stew | npmap: don't bother, we wouldn't accept that patch for stable |
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| 19:11.19 | stew | judd: kernels |
| 19:11.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.39-rc6-686-pae (2.6.39~rc6-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-5); wheezy: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-3); squeeze-backports: 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 (2.6.38-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-31); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
| 19:11.35 | stew | npmap: people that need it could use the squeeze-backports kernel |
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| 19:13.05 | npmap | stew: I see. Thank you for taking the time to help me out. |
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| 19:16.07 | lanken | hello! I haven't used linux since my student days two years ago |
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| 19:17.06 | lanken | I am currently installing Debian on a handful servers which my company will be using for various things, including FTP backup and VOIP telephone service |
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| 19:18.02 | lanken | (asterisk is an open-source alternative to expensive CISCO phone routing for VOIP systems) |
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| 19:18.22 | lanken | where can I go for a concise guide to maintaining a debian system? |
| 19:18.25 | lanken | do I still use apt? |
| 19:18.29 | lanken | apt-get? |
| 19:18.41 | lanken | is aptitude the preferred choice? |
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| 19:19.20 | stew | lanken: i don't know about concist, we typicall recommend the debian reference (/msg dpkg reference) |
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| 19:19.39 | stew | lanken: either apt-get or aptitude. aptitude is slower and smarter |
| 19:19.50 | somiaj | lanken: aptitude is considered to have a bit better logic in resolving conflicts, but I personally just use apt-get myself. |
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| 19:20.59 | Bartzy | Hi |
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| 19:21.07 | lanken | ok then! things are exactly where I left them! |
| 19:21.09 | Bartzy | How can I make nfs-kernel-server listen on a specific IP address ? |
| 19:21.11 | lanken | stew: thanks! |
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| 19:24.10 | somiaj | Bartzy: have you check /usr/share/doc/nfs-kernel-server/* or the config file located in /etc -- you can probably find wich one with dpkg -L nfs-kernel-server |
| 19:25.22 | tdn | Can I install Debian on a Synology NAS box like e.g. DS411j? |
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| 19:28.11 | Bartzy | somiaj: It's not documented there. That's why I ask |
| 19:29.29 | jelly-home | Bartzy: hidden in changelog.gz, there's an interesting entry dated Mon Jul 3 09:52:00 2006 |
| 19:29.49 | jelly-home | Bartzy: I haven't tested that, ever. Just noticing. |
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| 19:33.32 | Bartzy | jelly-home: thanks. anyone knows how to enable that easily in the debian package ? |
| 19:33.53 | yang | How do I mount USB device ? http://pastebin.com/g7F9wfdu |
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| 19:34.03 | yang | its camera connected via usb |
| 19:34.18 | SuperAlekZ | i want to copy the content of folder foo/ into folder bar/ how do i do that exactly? i always mix up something in the syntax |
| 19:34.23 | edwin_quijada | Hi! I am trying to authorize squid users against ldapserver with samba as PDC but |
| 19:34.23 | edwin_quijada | it doesnt work. It ask for user+pass but when I put it came back for asking user+pass |
| 19:34.24 | edwin_quijada | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.24 | stew | yang: by selling your canon and buying one from a manufacturer that supports this :) |
| 19:34.32 | yang | uh |
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| 19:34.38 | stew | yang: you can't, you can talk to it with libgphoto-2 |
| 19:34.49 | yang | oh, ok |
| 19:35.16 | stew | yang: try "aptitude search '~Dlibgphoto2-2'" for ideas |
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| 19:36.09 | jelly-home | Bartzy: inspecting the init script for nfs-kernel-server, it seems stuff might be tucked in RPCNFSDCOUNT in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server |
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| 19:37.51 | antivirtel | hi! I'm looking for an up-to-date ISO release of the new debian 6; I heared something about daily/weekly release of debian ISO, is it so or I had only dreams? |
| 19:38.20 | homie | cdimage.debian.org or so |
| 19:38.27 | karlpinc | antivirtel: The regular iso will install the latest 6. The new iso's are for testing the installer. |
| 19:38.34 | jelly-home | Bartzy: so RPCNFSDCOUNT="-H a.b.c.d 8" in there I guess. Read rpc.nfsd(8) |
| 19:38.40 | karlpinc | antivirtel: You want the netinstall image. |
| 19:39.04 | karlpinc | !tell antivirtel about overview |
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| 19:39.34 | karlpinc | !tell antivirtel about stable |
| 19:40.27 | antivirtel | karlpinc, no, I really want to download the full cd #1(or the master cd... I dont know how you call it) - so I want offline thing - because I want to test at home, than upgrade from debian 5.6 in a stable server, is it possible? |
| 19:41.01 | homie | then get the dvd image |
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| 19:41.11 | homie | it's in that sense full |
| 19:41.21 | antivirtel | (I have no DVD reader in my server :S) |
| 19:41.30 | homie | but takes awhile to download ofc |
| 19:41.52 | homie | oh ok, then go for the normal cd image, but beware it may lack network card drivers.... |
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| 19:41.54 | antivirtel | I want to download that CD, that provides me the most of the upgrades |
| 19:42.28 | karlpinc | antivirtel: The way to upgrade is to follow the release notes. |
| 19:42.40 | homie | so make sure that it is in the cd image or download it separately to some hd partition which is formatted and you don't use (temporarily....) |
| 19:42.40 | karlpinc | antivirtel: You do this with a net connection. |
| 19:43.22 | karlpinc | antivirtel: There is no "full image" unless you make a mirror. (You'll need about 100G of hard drive.) |
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| 19:44.12 | ner0x | Is it possible to install a 32bit install on a 64bit system? |
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| 19:44.39 | antivirtel | karlpinc... I know, that is a webserver :D - so it has network connection, but I'm looking for a logical way: why I download out-of-date things? |
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| 19:44.48 | karlpinc | antivirtel: But yes, if you have cd1 you can use that as your primary source of new packages for the upgrade and your upgrade will go to the net if it's not on the cd. |
| 19:45.20 | stew | ner0x: yes |
| 19:46.17 | karlpinc | antivirtel: Just be sure to follow the upgrade instructions in the release notes. |
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| 19:48.37 | antivirtel | ok, karlpinc :) - so where can I find the ~lastest CD1 (I prefer torrent source) - I'm here, but I think that is the first release, right: http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ ? |
| 19:48.56 | keith4 | alright, i'm losing my mind here. someone talk me off the ledge... |
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| 19:49.32 | keith4 | i have a fresh squeeze 64 install, with bare minimum packages. all i have installed is ssh metapackage and nfs-common (and all dependencies) |
| 19:51.40 | keith4 | portmap starts fine, but installation of nfs-common fails due to statd failing to start |
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| 19:53.12 | jelly-home | keith4: go ahead and jump! (JUMP) |
| 19:53.31 | dvs | might as well |
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| 19:54.20 | keith4 | hold on, i'm removing/reinstalling to get the output again |
| 19:54.28 | keith4 | i'll jump in a moment |
| 19:54.35 | war9407 | waka: Failed to fetch -> ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/PackagesIndex -> MD5Sum mismatch |
| 19:54.37 | war9407 | what causes this? |
| 19:54.58 | project2501a | hey guys: i would like to see which clients are currently connect to my nfs export share. but i don't know what string to google with. can i please have a clue? |
| 19:55.09 | karlpinc | antivirtel: That's the one I know about. As mentioned above there could be something on cd.debian.org. |
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| 19:55.46 | keith4 | project2501a: showmount |
| 19:56.00 | project2501a | let me man that |
| 19:56.31 | project2501a | that is interesting. |
| 19:56.41 | project2501a | clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered |
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| 19:57.06 | karlpinc | project2501a: You need to learn to use man -k |
| 19:57.22 | keith4 | http://paste.debian.net/116673/ <- NFS sad face |
| 19:57.23 | jelly-home | project2501a: it won't do what you want anyway, but is useful |
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| 19:57.57 | project2501a | karlpinc: yeah, thanks, man. i know man -k, but i was having a brainfart at the moment. so i thought i would put down what i want to do, even descriptively, so i can get an intelligent thought together. |
| 19:58.06 | project2501a | karlpinc: thanks for the help, anyway :) |
| 19:58.15 | project2501a | waves to jelly-home |
| 19:58.19 | project2501a | keith4: thanks! |
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| 19:59.55 | antivirtel | ok, thanks the info karlpinc :) bye for now |
| 20:00.44 | project2501a | hey debian! i love you! |
| 20:01.17 | dvs | !hug project2501a |
| 20:01.17 | dpkg | wraps its shiny metal lovin' arms around project2501a |
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| 20:05.15 | project2501a | hey! loving yoU!!! put your apt-get arms around me baby |
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| 20:08.26 | keith4 | further, nfs-common claims to depend on portmap|rpcbind, but trying to install nfs-common with rpcbind, instead of portmap, fails with "insserv: Service portmap has to be enabled to start service nfs-common" |
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| 20:09.28 | jelly-home | keith4: portmap should work. Does rpcinfo -p nfsserver show anything? |
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| 20:10.01 | jelly-home | keith4: are you using a nondefault kernel? |
| 20:10.07 | keith4 | stock kernel |
| 20:10.25 | keith4 | (2.6.32-5-amd64) |
| 20:11.53 | jelly-home | keith4: is portmap running at all? |
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| 20:12.15 | Bar__ | How do I get the 'pecl' binary ? |
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| 20:12.36 | justin_ | Bar__: /msg dpkg search |
| 20:12.44 | jelly-home | Bar__: /msg judd file bin/pecl |
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| 20:13.53 | Bar__ | oh thanks |
| 20:14.00 | keith4 | jelly-home: rpcinfo: http://paste.debian.net/116674/ |
| 20:15.13 | jelly-home | keith4: stop nfs-kernel-server, stop nfs-common, start nfs-common again |
| 20:15.28 | keith4 | on the remote server? |
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| 20:18.35 | t67 | is theer a time limit on /etc/rc.local? |
| 20:18.52 | t67 | just I'm getting someweird behaviour and am tryingto work out why it is |
| 20:19.06 | t67 | actually maybe I should ask in #bash about it |
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| 20:19.34 | justin_ | t67: are you even using bash? |
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| 20:19.47 | deathtje | hey guys small quest why can't i find /dev/fb0 on my debian system i'm missing some package ? |
| 20:19.48 | t67 | zomg THAT'S WHY!! |
| 20:19.52 | t67 | it's using stupid sh |
| 20:19.54 | jelly-home | keith4: yes, weren't you talking about the server the whole time |
| 20:20.06 | keith4 | jelly-home: no, just some client machine |
| 20:20.17 | jelly-home | keith4: oh. |
| 20:20.29 | karlpinc | t67: if you write for sh (dash) it's portable. |
| 20:20.35 | jelly-home | keith4: ignore that suggestion then |
| 20:20.49 | t67 | karlpinc: bash is a very portable shell |
| 20:21.11 | t67 | besides portable hardly matters for my /etc/rc.local |
| 20:21.15 | karlpinc | t67: For some value of portable. You won't find it inside my sony tv, but a posix sh is there. |
| 20:21.16 | jelly-home | keith4: let's rewind to <jelly-home> keith4: is portmap running [on the client] at all? |
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| 20:21.45 | keith4 | jelly-home: is there a test for that, other than seeing /sbin/portmap in ps output? |
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| 20:22.35 | jelly-home | keith4: yeah, poke it with rpcinfo -p localhost or similar |
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| 20:23.18 | keith4 | jelly-home: connection timeout |
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| 20:23.49 | shrimpwagon | I keep getting, "skipping file 'xxxxxxxx', as it was replaced while being copied. |
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| 20:24.13 | keith4 | kicks portmap, violently |
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| 20:24.26 | shrimpwagon | I'm copying from a mounted Linux share |
| 20:24.34 | DSpair | Hello all, is there a good reference for performance tuning a Debian X Desktop system? |
| 20:24.41 | shrimpwagon | I have two Debian boxes running Samba |
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| 20:25.06 | keith4 | shrimpwagon: is there a question coming? ;-) |
| 20:25.13 | jelly-home | keith4: silly firewall rules in place? |
| 20:25.17 | DSpair | Ideally I would like to implement one of the new kernel schedulers which supports better interactive application response. |
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| 20:25.23 | shrimpwagon | keith4: yeah, what is up with it? |
| 20:25.45 | keith4 | shrimpwagon: the error message tells you the problem. the file it was copying was overwritten while being copied, so it got skipped |
| 20:25.49 | keith4 | jelly-home: no firewall |
| 20:26.04 | shrimpwagon | keith4: overwritten by what? |
| 20:26.21 | keith4 | shrimpwagon: how should i know? they're your files |
| 20:26.51 | shrimpwagon | keith4: true, true. But there is nothing I can think of that would be doing that |
| 20:27.09 | Shadur | Even after the latest upload to unstable, udev isn't starting up properly at boot time - complains about /run/.udev not being writable at a point before the filesystems are mounted r/w. |
| 20:27.10 | karlpinc | shrimpwagon: If you want to make sure that does not happen one approach is to use lvm snapshots. YMMV. |
| 20:27.23 | justin_ | Shadur: do you have a /run? |
| 20:27.28 | jelly-home | keith4: verify (with lsof) whether portmap is listening on tcp and udp 111 ("sunrpc"), maybe kill it with fire and start a new one |
| 20:27.29 | Shadur | justin_: No. |
| 20:27.39 | justin_ | Shadur: maybe you should make one |
| 20:27.49 | Shadur | justin_: And even if I did, / isn't mounted read/write at the time udev generates the error. |
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| 20:28.00 | Shadur | justin_: I thought /run was going to be made a tmpfs. |
| 20:28.01 | justin_ | Shadur: well, it can't make the problem worse |
| 20:28.10 | justin_ | got me :) |
| 20:28.10 | keith4 | famous last words ;-) |
| 20:28.22 | Shadur | justin_: Can I hold you to that? |
| 20:28.30 | justin_ | sure |
| 20:28.35 | karlpinc | jelly-home: _That's_ what kill(1) needs. A --with-fire flag! |
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| 20:28.51 | stew | smoke signals? |
| 20:29.08 | keith4 | installs lsof and waits for dpkg to try to --configure nfs-common one more time |
| 20:29.18 | keith4 | it only takes... what? 3 minutes to time out? |
| 20:29.30 | xdarklight | evening, I'm trying to set up socks4-server on squeeze, I'm trying to run it under a inetutils-inetd server, this is what I'm getting: http://pastebin.ca/2057009 (includes output + sockd.conf) |
| 20:29.43 | xdarklight | any clue what might be wrong there? :/ |
| 20:29.47 | justin_ | xdarklight: why are you trying to setup a socks server? |
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| 20:31.47 | xdarklight | justin_: why not? I'd use ssh for doing all the work, but I need to access that proxy from some random windows boxes too, so a socks-proxy would be comfortable |
| 20:31.57 | justin_ | xdarklight: ssh has a built in socks proxy |
| 20:32.36 | xdarklight | yeah I know, but having a copy of putty on all windows boxes is quite uncomfortable (versus: just setting the proxy in firefox' settings) |
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| 20:35.04 | keith4 | jelly-home: looks normal to me: http://paste.debian.net/116678/ |
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| 20:35.42 | jelly-home | keith4: and yet it doesn't answer to rcpinfo query to list all the services |
| 20:35.52 | f3ared | hello im looking at grabbing debian... i just want one dvd so would it be the netinstall? |
| 20:36.20 | jelly-home | keith4: /etc/hosts.allow should list "portmap: 127.0.0.1" at the very least |
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| 20:37.03 | ompaul | !tell f3ared about install |
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| 20:37.20 | jelly-home | keith4: unlike other services, tcpwrapper config for portmap can't be symbolic names |
| 20:37.21 | ompaul | f3ared: too many ways but you could get away with that as long as you have an internet connection |
| 20:37.34 | ompaul | f3ared: what kind of hardware? |
| 20:37.40 | f3ared | whats the best way |
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| 20:37.52 | f3ared | its an old p4 with a new usb wifi card |
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| 20:38.15 | ompaul | f3ared: how about you wire it up and start there then you can work out if the usb card word |
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| 20:38.18 | keith4 | oh, no |
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| 20:38.22 | ompaul | s/word/works |
| 20:38.23 | keith4 | hangs head in shame |
| 20:38.34 | f3ared | the wifi card well as i pregoogled :P |
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| 20:39.02 | ompaul | f3ared: for a netinstall you are best being physically connected on a bit of ethernet while it grabs all the bits |
| 20:39.04 | keith4 | jelly-home: thanks, i got it working now! |
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| 20:39.30 | ompaul | f3ared: you asked for advise, the best I can give, have fun with it ;-) |
| 20:40.26 | jelly-home | Lee-t: what was it |
| 20:40.32 | jelly-home | keith4: what was it |
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| 20:40.43 | f3ared | the router is upstairs and the cable i have is broken.. so just gonna grab all 8 dvds |
| 20:40.45 | keith4 | jelly-home: i don't even want to tell you |
| 20:41.03 | jelly-home | keith4: yes you do |
| 20:41.22 | jpalecek | hello, when I execute "init s", the daemons are not stopped. Is that normal? |
| 20:41.23 | jelly-home | wrong shell on wrong machine? |
| 20:41.27 | keith4 | jelly-home: not that bad |
| 20:41.48 | keith4 | jelly-home: netstat showed me that 111 was only open on the real IP, and not on localhost |
| 20:41.48 | DSpair | NVM, it appears that my slowness was just the version of Google Chrome I was using. |
| 20:42.16 | keith4 | jelly-home: this install was debootstrapped, and i overwrote /etc/network/interfaces with a script... that didn't include lo |
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| 20:42.31 | jelly-home | lo and behold |
| 20:42.52 | keith4 | ha. indeed! |
| 20:42.58 | jelly-home | !pal keith4 |
| 20:42.58 | dpkg | points at keith4 and laughs uproariously |
| 20:43.12 | keith4 | suddenly rpcinfo is happy, nfs-common starts, etc. |
| 20:43.22 | BlueG | why does it seem that ruby1.8 is the default rather than ruby1.9? |
| 20:43.57 | jhutchins_lt | jpalecek: man init - you are entering single-user mode, not all daemons will stop. |
| 20:44.40 | jhutchins_lt | BlueG: 1.8 has been out longer with more opportunity to fix bugs. |
| 20:45.46 | Shadur | justin_: Nope, didn't work. |
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| 20:45.55 | jpalecek | jhutchins_lt: I know that, but IIRC, init s should at least shutdown gdm, other consoles etc., but none of that happens |
| 20:46.27 | keith4 | jelly-home: thanks for talking me off the ledge. i'm going to commit seppuku now |
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| 20:46.38 | jhutchins_lt | jpalecek: SysV init is not fully implemented in Debian. Does it switch to the right runlevel? |
| 20:47.20 | BlueG | jhutchins_lt: so what is the status of ruby1.9 in squeeze? |
| 20:47.22 | jhutchins_lt | I always use telinit for switching. |
| 20:47.32 | jhutchins_lt | BlueG: None. |
| 20:48.02 | jelly-home | keith4: you don't have a trusted lieutenant to chop your head off |
| 20:49.24 | karlpinc | Is there a utility to convert from UCS-2 to UTF-8? |
| 20:50.12 | BlueG | jhutchins_lt: it appears to be installable, have I got package information from some other repository? |
| 20:50.14 | jpalecek | jhutchins_lt: echo $RUNLEVEL gives "S" |
| 20:50.56 | keith4 | jelly-home: i'll find someone. no worries |
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| 20:51.02 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions ruby |
| 20:51.04 | judd | Package ruby on i386 -- lenny: 4.2; squeeze: 4.5; sid: 4.8; wheezy: 4.8 |
| 20:51.25 | jpalecek | jhutchins_lt: but I can login with my username in gdm |
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| 20:51.56 | jhutchins_lt | BlueG: ruby's not as bad as python, but replacing a scripting language that may be used by system components is often a bad idea, |
| 20:52.23 | jhutchins_lt | jpalecek: So GDM is still running, which mean's there's no K link in runlevel 1. |
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| 20:54.25 | BlueG | ,versions ruby1.8 |
| 20:54.26 | judd | Package ruby1.8 on i386 -- lenny: 1.8.7.72-3lenny1; lenny-security: 1.8.7.72-3lenny1; lenny-backports: 1.8.7.302-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.8.7.302-2; sid: 1.8.7.334-4; wheezy: 1.8.7.334-4 |
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| 20:55.14 | jpalecek | jhutchins_lt: it said "sending processes the TERM signal" but I'm not sure anything happened. GDM is running for sure. /etc/rc1.d/K01gdm3 exists and is executable. |
| 20:55.34 | TimeRider | xeon 5130, trying to get cpu stepping to work, cpufreq isn't letting me load modules, or maybe I'm trying wrong ones - squeeze 2.6.32 amd64 kernel... anyone? |
| 20:55.52 | BlueG | jhutchins_lt: Understandably. But it appears they are installable side-by-side. I'm guessing that most ruby related things in squeeze depend on 1.8, however. |
| 20:56.11 | jelly-home | TimeRider: are you saying you can't load "acpi-cpufreq"? |
| 20:56.31 | TimeRider | I am |
| 20:56.59 | TimeRider | jelly-homeFATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device |
| 20:57.54 | Black_Prince | TimeRider, what is your processor? |
| 20:57.59 | TimeRider | intel xeon 5130 |
| 20:58.10 | Black_Prince | That's an older model? or? |
| 20:58.12 | jelly-home | TimeRider: well then, it's possible it doesn't support that, or your bios doesn't |
| 20:58.20 | Black_Prince | try with modprobe p4-clockmod |
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| 20:58.43 | jelly-home | TimeRider: or OS controlling that functionality is disabled in bios |
| 20:58.51 | TimeRider | yeah, kinda - it is supported by board, I've had similar problems before with other chips, probably something I'm missing out :/ |
| 20:58.52 | Pinchiukas | How can I undelete a directory I just accidentally deleted? |
| 20:59.01 | jelly-home | Pinchiukas: restore from backups |
| 20:59.01 | Black_Prince | modinfo gives description: cpufreq driver for Pentium(TM) 4/Xeon(TM) |
| 20:59.10 | streuner | jelly-home: lol |
| 20:59.15 | JPT | Pinchiukas: >maybe< ext3grep will help you |
| 20:59.16 | jelly-home | streuner: no, rly |
| 20:59.16 | Pinchiukas | jelly-home: I don't have backups of my backups. |
| 20:59.36 | jelly-home | Pinchiukas: how many seconds ago did this happen? |
| 20:59.43 | streuner | jelly-home: its the default case, but you know, nobody make backups |
| 21:00.05 | Pinchiukas | Not a lot. The partition isn't used for anything except storing the files. No programs are accessing it. |
| 21:00.07 | jelly-home | Pinchiukas: next time, if you're fast enough, you can just pull the plug |
| 21:00.11 | Pinchiukas | So the files should be intact. |
| 21:00.27 | karlpinc | Pinchiukas: The whole point of backups is to have more than one copy. (Which does not help when you need something that only appears in one copy, I know.) |
| 21:00.31 | jelly-home | Pinchiukas: as for now, umount the fs |
| 21:00.37 | TimeRider | Black_Prince : Yeah, module is there (p4-clockmod isn't) - just don't wanna load :( |
| 21:01.10 | TimeRider | any decent howtos on cpufreq in squeeze? |
| 21:01.13 | Black_Prince | p4-clockmod gives same error? |
| 21:01.27 | Pinchiukas | karlpinc: that doesn't even make sense. And thanks for the useful info. |
| 21:01.30 | TimeRider | p4-clockmod module isn't there... but from reading up, I', probably pleased, lol |
| 21:01.44 | Black_Prince | Ah, you are using 64bit kernel, right? |
| 21:01.54 | TimeRider | Black_Prince : ... yeah? |
| 21:02.02 | Black_Prince | That module is x86 specific, sorry |
| 21:02.10 | karlpinc | Pinchiukas: Backups are something you keep multiple copies of. Say 30 days worth of nightly backups, 20 weeks worth of weeklys, etc. |
| 21:02.15 | TimeRider | Black_Prince : that answers that one then :) |
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| 21:02.35 | TimeRider | Black_Prince : any ideas why acpi-cpufreq module won't go tho, from reading, it should... |
| 21:02.38 | shrimpwagon | keith4: I think I fixed it another way. Instead of copying to target from the source mounted share, I copied from source to the target mounted share |
| 21:02.53 | shrimpwagon | keith4: seems to be working |
| 21:02.57 | Black_Prince | TimeRider, I am not sure. I tried using it too, but I got the same error as you did. |
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| 21:03.16 | TimeRider | Black_Prince : you ever get it working? |
| 21:03.36 | Black_Prince | TimeRider, but when I tried p4-clockmod, it was all ok. From it's description it is for Intel Pentium(TM) 4 and Xeon(TM) |
| 21:03.39 | karlpinc | Pinchiukas: If you're backing up to hd then look into rsync with --link-dest or rsnapshot, etc. |
| 21:03.42 | Black_Prince | And I have Pentium 4 |
| 21:03.52 | Pinchiukas | karlpinc: I'm backing up Windows. |
| 21:03.55 | TimeRider | Black_Prince : took me ages to get stepping working on previous boxes - I just repaired this hp ml150g3, and now wanna play with it |
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| 21:04.12 | keith4 | Pinchiukas: there are rsync versions for windows |
| 21:04.13 | karlpinc | Pinchiukas: I think rsync works on Windows. |
| 21:04.24 | Pinchiukas | If you're thinking Cygwin, it's a POS. |
| 21:04.26 | jelly-home | Pinchiukas: I guess you'll have to use a signature based recovery tool like photorec |
| 21:04.53 | Black_Prince | TimeRider http://pastebin.com/SFL6Kg7n |
| 21:05.02 | karlpinc | Pinchiukas: Nope. That's not what we're thinking. |
| 21:05.04 | innociv | I can't find how to make a user that can only read files. When I google it, I get things related to disk read and such. |
| 21:05.10 | jelly-home | TimeRider: oh, it's a proliant? |
| 21:05.18 | Pinchiukas | Isn't there a simpler way like all those tools on windows? |
| 21:05.31 | TimeRider | jelly-home : uhm... yeah... |
| 21:05.45 | jelly-home | TimeRider: the iLO interface might have options to enable OS-based power management. |
| 21:05.47 | karlpinc | !tell innociv about permissions |
| 21:06.15 | jpalecek | innociv: you mean a user that could read all files root can, but not write? |
| 21:06.16 | jelly-home | TimeRider: I'm not sure G3 had that at all. |
| 21:06.39 | jelly-home | TimeRider: if you can, flash it with latest bios and iLO firmware |
| 21:06.55 | innociv | Yeah, jpalecek |
| 21:06.58 | TimeRider | I've flashed latest bios.. not sure what iLO firmware is? |
| 21:07.10 | Pinchiukas | It seems there is no package of PhotoRec for Debian? |
| 21:07.18 | keith4 | TimeRider: integrated light-out management |
| 21:07.23 | Black_Prince | I see you are using HP computer. I have HP d530 and cpu frequency scaling works here. |
| 21:07.27 | TimeRider | yeah, google just told me :p |
| 21:07.27 | keith4 | other vendors call is BMC, LOM, etc. |
| 21:07.57 | karlpinc | Pinchiukas: You could try: aptitude search ~Gadmin::recovery |
| 21:07.59 | TimeRider | looking into it now, anyone with experience of flashing that under debian? |
| 21:08.07 | jelly-home | Black_Prince: it's a HP server, and an entry level one. |
| 21:08.22 | jelly-home | TimeRider: seems iLO is an addon card for the ML150 G3 |
| 21:08.23 | jpalecek | innociv: that's impossible with unix permissions in general. But using selinux, you can run your program under root and restrict to only reading others' files. |
| 21:08.44 | karlpinc | innociv: Perhaps you should tell us what you're trying to do. |
| 21:08.54 | jelly-home | TimeRider: so if you don't have it, and the BIOS doesn't mention power mgt, you're screwed |
| 21:08.57 | TimeRider | jelly-home : yeah, seems it is, wonder what ebay says - but would that help me with my scaling problem anyways? |
| 21:09.21 | jelly-home | TimeRider: I wouldn't bet on it with such an aged system. |
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| 21:09.29 | TimeRider | jelly-home bios doesn't mention power management at all |
| 21:09.39 | dudz_ | in the debian installer, i am trying to explain to someone howto create an encrypted swap with a random key, does someone know this process ? |
| 21:09.48 | TimeRider | jelly-home : yeah, they seem rare, but I got 2 of em cheap (with problems!) one now stable :) |
| 21:09.58 | jelly-home | TimeRider: I think only iLO2, with G5 and newer, has options to let the OS do power mgt |
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| 21:10.23 | Black_Prince | TimeRider, HP bioses are very limited for configuration. |
| 21:10.25 | TimeRider | jelly-home : that sucks then! big time! |
| 21:10.27 | jelly-home | sorry, iLO2 is G4 and newer |
| 21:10.37 | dudz_ | we've created the swap partition and set its "use as" to "volume for encryption" and gone into the menu "configure encrypted volumes" but there is only an option for making a passphraze encryption |
| 21:10.45 | jelly-home | TimeRider: nope, its BIOS should do some power management on its own |
| 21:10.45 | dudz_ | atleaste from what i'm hearing |
| 21:10.53 | dudz_ | i know you can do it in the installer i just can't remember where it is |
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| 21:11.01 | TimeRider | Black_Prince : yeah, I noticed! tried every key combo I could to see if anything else showed up, you'd think on a server board it would have a bit more |
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| 21:11.43 | TimeRider | jelly-home : BIOS does do some - it plays nicely with the fans, just the CPU's could do with slowing sometimes |
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| 21:11.49 | jelly-home | TimeRider: most configuration is done using the lighs-out interface and custom Proliant-specific tools |
| 21:11.49 | Black_Prince | TimeRider I do I have only boot options, system time, ide and sata controler configuration and option for setting device irqs |
| 21:12.16 | jelly-home | Black_Prince: Proliants are very different from workstations. |
| 21:12.56 | innociv | karlpinc, I thought I did state it pretty clearly. I want to allow a user to read files, but not modify them. |
| 21:13.00 | TimeRider | jelly-home : I guess, but then xeons are different to workstation cpus, and they have stepping - damn HP! |
| 21:13.16 | Black_Prince | jelly-home, every HP laptop, workstation, etc I've seen have very limited bios options. |
| 21:13.24 | Black_Prince | Tough I am not sure for Prolians |
| 21:13.36 | jelly-home | TimeRider: it's an entry level server, they're intentionally crippled to allow for that price range |
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| 21:14.02 | TimeRider | jelly-home : they've held their price well for entry level, going for a fortune on ebay still |
| 21:14.04 | agike | Hi, I've downloaded a *.pdf but 'evince *.pdf' gives me "Error (0): Call to Object where the object was type 5, not the expected type 1 or 2 |
| 21:14.04 | agike | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.12 | SeKo | turkce bilen var mi? |
| 21:14.18 | agike | que ? |
| 21:14.21 | jelly-home | !tr |
| 21:14.21 | dpkg | i heard tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
| 21:14.43 | arghh2d2 | i can't find wine in the squeeze repos... is that because i'm using the ppc arch? |
| 21:14.55 | jelly-home | arghh2d2: yes. |
| 21:15.07 | arghh2d2 | jelly-home: kk |
| 21:15.14 | Black_Prince | arghh2d2, experimental has wine for ppc |
| 21:15.16 | jelly-home | arghh2d2: wine is not an emulator, it only runs on i386 and amd64 |
| 21:15.40 | jelly-home | ,versions wine --arch ppc |
| 21:15.41 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'wine' was found in ppc. |
| 21:15.49 | jpalecek | anyway - does anybody know if my problem with init ("init s doesn't stop gdm") is a bug or something? I've seen it on a debian lenny in virtualbox. |
| 21:15.58 | Black_Prince | ,versions wine-unstable --arch ppc |
| 21:16.00 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'wine-unstable' was found in ppc. |
| 21:16.09 | Black_Prince | ,versions wine-unstable --arch powerpc |
| 21:16.11 | judd | Package wine-unstable on powerpc -- sid: 1.1.29-1 |
| 21:16.28 | arghh2d2 | hmm, cool, thanks |
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| 21:17.03 | arghh2d2 | think i could get away with just running dwarf fortress and then switching my repos back to squeeze? |
| 21:17.04 | jelly-home | I didn't know there was a build for ppc at all. 1.1 is a bit dated though |
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| 21:17.27 | jelly-home | arghh2d2: don't expect much |
| 21:17.38 | jelly-home | arghh2d2: that's a very old version of wine |
| 21:17.44 | karlpinc | innociv: Why? If we knew why we could suggest alternates. |
| 21:18.19 | innociv | So someone can pull files off with sftp, look for problems, but not change anything. |
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| 21:19.34 | jelly-home | TimeRider: I've tried to use acpi-cpufreq on a DL360 G5, and it works but the power usage isn't any better of worse than letting the bios take care of it |
| 21:19.35 | arghh2d2 | jelly-home: the one in squeeze, is 1.0.1? |
| 21:19.44 | karlpinc | innociv: Any file on the whole computer? |
| 21:19.51 | jelly-home | arghh2d2: that's even older, yes |
| 21:20.01 | innociv | Yeah, I guess. |
| 21:20.07 | jelly-home | ,versions wine --arch powerpc |
| 21:20.07 | judd | Package wine on powerpc -- experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 21:20.12 | innociv | It's fine though, i'll just compress a bunch and send them. |
| 21:20.25 | jpalecek | innociv: most of the files that could "cause problems" are readable by a normal user, isn't it? Only other users' data isn't. |
| 21:20.33 | jelly-home | arghh2d2: well, there's no wine for ppc in squeeze at all it seems |
| 21:20.58 | arghh2d2 | jelly-home: right, i meant regular pc |
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| 21:21.05 | arghh2d2 | 686 or whatev |
| 21:21.30 | jelly-home | ,versions wine-unstable |
| 21:21.32 | judd | Package wine-unstable on i386 -- sid: 1.1.32-1+b1 |
| 21:21.34 | jelly-home | ,versions wine |
| 21:21.37 | judd | Package wine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-3.1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; wheezy: 1.0.1-3.1; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 21:22.20 | arghh2d2 | so the ppc one is about as good as it gets? |
| 21:22.25 | jelly-home | arghh2d2: you can try your app on it but it's still very old |
| 21:22.38 | Pinchiukas | karlpinc: doesn't find anything. |
| 21:22.46 | jelly-home | arghh2d2: debian's wine maintainer is a bit AWOL |
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| 21:23.03 | arghh2d2 | gotcha |
| 21:23.31 | jelly-home | http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
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| 21:31.19 | eigenman | Quick question: I've recently installed debian squeeze, and then later switched to testing. Now, when I run aptitude, there is huge section on "Obsolete and locally created packages". Have I done something wrong? |
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| 21:34.03 | babilen | eigenman: No you haven't. That are probably just packages that have been removed in wheezy, but were present in squeeze. If you run "aptitude search ~o" you'd get a list. Note that there is a dedicated channel on irc.oftc.net called #debian-next for wheezy/sid users. |
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| 21:35.33 | eigenman | thanks babilen. I'll join that channel. |
| 21:35.58 | babilen | eigenman: It is pretty new, but you are welcome to idle there. :) |
| 21:37.33 | eigenman | babilen: when I do that, I get list of packages like "at", "aptitude", "grub", etc.. there. Packages that I don't think are going to be removed anytime soon. |
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| 21:38.17 | Pinchiukas | What other debian packages apart from testdisk can recover deleted files? |
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| 21:39.12 | babilen | eigenman: Yeah, not sure. Joind the #debian-next channel and we can investigate it. Please paste that list along with your sources.list and output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy PKG" for some of these packages to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 21:39.25 | babilen | Pinchiukas: Which filsesystem? |
| 21:39.28 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: Deleted file recovery is not implemented on ext filesystems. Unless you set up something that causes "delete" to move or rename, there really isn't a good way to do it, and you have to set it up in advance. |
| 21:40.38 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: This is why we preach about backups. |
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| 21:41.56 | babilen | Pinchiukas: You might try tools like photorec or ext3undelete, but your files are most likely gone. |
| 21:41.58 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins_lt: +journaled |
| 21:42.22 | daemonkeeper | For ext2 it works reasonably ok (better have backups) |
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| 21:43.10 | jham | ext3grep |
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| 21:43.18 | jham | if on ext3 of course |
| 21:43.49 | babilen | Pinchiukas: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html for another approach (with ext3grep) |
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| 21:44.25 | jham | babilen: hehe, just wanted to paste |
| 21:44.51 | babilen | Pinchiukas: That all being said: The *most* important thing to do right now is to stop using the filesystem in question *immediately* -- Create an image of it and work on copies of this image. |
| 21:44.52 | jham | had to use it today |
| 21:45.07 | babilen | jham: hehe, I had it in my bookmarks ;) |
| 21:45.08 | Pinchiukas | My filesystem is ext3, yes. :) |
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| 21:45.29 | daemonkeeper | If the file system is still mounted and running, you better don't even try to recover. |
| 21:45.30 | jhutchins_lt | daemonkeeper: In my experience, it's almost impossible on ext2 and really, really impossible on ext3. |
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| 21:45.39 | Pinchiukas | jhutchins_lt: you mean deleting a file in ext3 actually deletes it instead of "rename"? |
| 21:45.52 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: Essentially. |
| 21:46.03 | jham | no, with ext3grep the chances aren't that bad |
| 21:46.13 | jham | if you don't work further on the fs |
| 21:46.16 | jelly-home | babilen: that "immediately" was like an hour ago |
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| 21:46.26 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: It un-links all of it's inodes, so you have to find all of the segments of data and stitch them back together in the proper order. |
| 21:46.27 | babilen | jelly-home: wonderful :-( |
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| 21:46.43 | jham | Pinchiukas: which files are that? plain text? |
| 21:46.46 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins_lt: Yes, agreed. I just wanted to point out, that journaled file systems (as of ext3+) are even more complicated than ext2 |
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| 21:47.32 | jelly-home | hm should I _disable_ journal on my ssd ext4 |
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| 21:48.13 | Pinchiukas | jhutchins_lt: while on NTFS/FAT the "inodes" are still linked after files are deleted? |
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| 21:48.27 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: They don't have inodes. |
| 21:48.31 | jham | Pinchiukas: if it's plaintext and just _some_ files of which you know some content you could also try: grep --binary-files=text -A 50 -B 50 -b 'somestring' yourpartitionimage > /tmp/results.txt |
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| 21:49.36 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: However it's something like that. |
| 21:49.47 | Pinchiukas | I deleted my Windows software dir that had .exe, .rar, .zip files ant such. |
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| 21:50.07 | jham | Pinchiukas: oh... why bother recover? :) |
| 21:50.09 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: That's ok, you really don't need it. |
| 21:50.11 | jham | *scnr( |
| 21:50.18 | Pinchiukas | I kinda do. |
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| 21:50.33 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: I haven't run Windows since W95 gave up on me in 2004. |
| 21:50.46 | Pinchiukas | Good for you. |
| 21:51.05 | jhutchins_lt | Just sayin', it can be done. |
| 21:51.28 | daemonkeeper | Well, let people use whatever they want |
| 21:51.28 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: If it was a windows folder, wasn't it on a windows filesystem? |
| 21:51.29 | jelly-home | Pinchiukas: if you files are worth more than say $500, consider consulting a professional recovery service instead of random people on irc |
| 21:51.51 | Pinchiukas | jhutchins_lt: naw, it was kind of a backup. :) |
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| 21:52.03 | babilen | Pinchiukas: And *stop* *using* *it* *NOW* |
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| 21:52.14 | Pinchiukas | It just had obscure software I've collected over the years. |
| 21:52.18 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, installers for things you had already installed? |
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| 21:52.38 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins_lt: "some kind of backup" + "rar files", guess what it was :p |
| 21:52.58 | Pinchiukas | daemonkeeper: not neccessarily. |
| 21:53.17 | jhutchins_lt | daemonkeeper: Nice thing about that is there's always more where it came from. |
| 21:53.18 | Pinchiukas | Software that is no longer being developed or even hosted somewhere. |
| 21:53.39 | daemonkeeper | jhutchins_lt: True that ;) |
| 21:53.57 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: Stuff like that you really want to save to off-line storage (for this very reason). |
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| 21:54.29 | jhutchins_lt | I have a couple of banker's boxes of floppies you could go through ... all pre-2004 of course. |
| 21:54.58 | Pinchiukas | For what reason? |
| 21:55.09 | jhutchins_lt | Old DOS/Windows software. |
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| 21:55.24 | Pinchiukas | Why is ir better to store it on offline media? |
| 21:55.26 | jhutchins_lt | I was part of the shareware distribution network until late in the 90's. |
| 21:55.37 | jhutchins_lt | Pinchiukas: So you can't do what you just did by mistake. |
| 21:55.43 | Pinchiukas | :) |
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| 22:15.56 | anigma | I have two monitors connected. One is with VGA and the other one with DVI. Now, is the VGA monitor somehow the default one? Because everytime I open an application it seems to pop up in the monitor connected with VGA. |
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| 22:17.56 | anigma | same goes for when I start the computer. Although after the startup GNOME is viewed on the monitor with DVI. |
| 22:18.31 | anigma | and that is the way I want to keep it. But I can't get the apps to open up in the DVI monitor. |
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| 22:25.14 | somiaj | anigma: try to make a custom xorg.conf file, you can specify which is screen 0 (default) and screen 1, seems as if you just let it be setup by the automatic detection system which isn't picking htem in the right order. |
| 22:26.56 | anigma | oh |
| 22:27.00 | anigma | I'll give that a try |
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| 22:28.52 | FilipeMaia | Is there a way for a user to give another user access to a file, and no other users? |
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| 22:29.58 | jhutchins_lt | FilipeMaia: make them the only member of a group and grant group access. |
| 22:30.18 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_lt: is there a way for a user, not root |
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| 22:30.40 | jhutchins_lt | No, not unless something like that has been enabled by root. |
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| 22:31.05 | jhutchins_lt | FilipeMaia: You _can_ encrypt the file and give them the public key. |
| 22:31.09 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_lt: ok thanks |
| 22:31.11 | schoppenhauer | hello. has anybody any idea on how to get a Wacom Serial Tablet work on debian squeeze? It worked on arch, ubuntu, knoppix and lenny (!!!) on the fly, but I cannot get it work under debian squeeze. |
| 22:31.22 | FilipeMaia | jhutchins_lt: right, not very handy |
| 22:32.10 | anigma | shouldn't the xorg.conf be located in /etc/X11/ ? |
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| 22:34.07 | InfectedSoul | hey guys can i just download the first dvd and install that way? |
| 22:34.27 | schoppenhauer | and it seems like the serial device is b0rked somehow. /dev/ttys0 _does_ do something, but isdv4-serial-debugger does strange thing. |
| 22:34.31 | schoppenhauer | s |
| 22:34.44 | schoppenhauer | InfectedSoul: depends on the packages you need, I would guess. |
| 22:34.56 | InfectedSoul | gonna be for a server |
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| 22:35.09 | schoppenhauer | InfectedSoul: "a server" ... |
| 22:35.24 | schoppenhauer | InfectedSoul: what is wrong with netinstall? |
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| 22:35.37 | InfectedSoul | i wont have internet right away as i have a usb wifi |
| 22:36.12 | schoppenhauer | InfectedSoul: on a server? |
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| 22:36.26 | InfectedSoul | ya... just got the spare tower back from the tech |
| 22:37.00 | schoppenhauer | cant you just plug it into ethernet during the installation? |
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| 22:37.30 | InfectedSoul | no ethernet here |
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| 22:39.05 | babilen | InfectedSoul: You can install a minimal system from the netinstall image, most of gnome from CD1 and even more from DVD1. It really depends on the packages you need. |
| 22:39.09 | babilen | !cd content |
| 22:39.09 | dpkg | To find out which CD or DVD image contains a particular package or source file, use the search engine at http://cdimage-search.debian.org/ . To see what a specific image contains, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ (e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/list-cd/). |
| 22:39.30 | InfectedSoul | well once i get the wifi up cant i just grab everything else? |
| 22:39.39 | babilen | sure |
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| 22:45.17 | dynamite | Serious Opinion: mdraid VS hardware raid. Pro/Cons? |
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| 22:46.26 | daemonkeeper | dynamite: It depends. |
| 22:46.44 | daemonkeeper | Some/Many harware controllers are not worth to be used. |
| 22:47.31 | dynamite | 3ware? |
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| 22:47.57 | dynamite | Im currently deciding if its even worth even considering a hardware raid in a critical setup, or just stick with software for flexibility. |
| 22:48.13 | dynamite | Is there any downside to using SW instead of HW, except the additional CPU load? |
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| 22:50.00 | anigma | what could I do to get a space automatically after typing 'scre' and pressing the tab button? for some reason it doesn't work when I want to get 'screen' |
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| 22:51.35 | daemonkeeper | Its not so much about the vendor, but the quality and your requirements. 3ware generally has an usable Linux interface and some perform quite well. If you can afford an expensive RAID controller with large cache and batteries there is nothing wrong to use it. Cheap controller (notably everything mounted on desktop boards) is crap and you better use SW RAID |
| 22:52.18 | dynamite | daemonkeeper: its a decision between a random 3ware controller and mdadm. let me quickly lookup what kind of controller |
| 22:52.45 | daemonkeeper | What are your requirements? |
| 22:53.45 | dynamite | odd |
| 22:53.46 | dynamite | 00:0a.0 RAID bus controller: 3ware Inc 7xxx/8xxx-series PATA/SATA-RAID (rev 01) |
| 22:53.50 | jshultz | i'm having trouble getting .phtml files to display. it was working up until i did an apt-get install of php5-snmp. |
| 22:53.52 | dynamite | nice description :D |
| 22:54.24 | dynamite | daemonkeeper: well, the hw controller would produce additional costs. i would be fine with mdraid, so im trying to figure if spending money on the controller is any worth it. |
| 22:54.33 | jshultz | i added the following to httpd.conf and did a restart: http://pastebin.com/H2QZsHUz |
| 22:54.55 | daemonkeeper | Unless you know why you need it, you probably don't do. |
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| 22:55.55 | daemonkeeper | In fact, SW RAID is easier to use, easier to monitor and easier to adapt to new requirements. |
| 22:56.21 | dynamite | daemonkeeper: Well, is there any real advantage except from sparing the CPU the overhead for managing the raid? |
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| 23:01.10 | daemonkeeper | There is a low overhead unless you use levels like RAID 5 or so and even those make life to current CPUs not really complicated. Hence the CPU is the smallest factor. An expensive HW RAID controller adds features like a fast memory cache (read/write) together with a battery to commit pending transactions on a power outages and stuff like that. |
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| 23:02.26 | dynamite | Mhh - the buffer is a good point actually. |
| 23:03.04 | daemonkeeper | Note small/cheap controllers do more likely throttle speed, than accelerate anything by offloading from the CPU |
| 23:03.12 | daemonkeeper | +rather |
| 23:03.13 | frostschutz | you have to be careful about cache (also write cache of a normal hdd), depending on how its used exactly, it can just as well backfire |
| 23:03.35 | daemonkeeper | right. You have exactly to know how you want to use your RAID |
| 23:03.37 | dynamite | what do you make of this? 3ware Inc 7xxx/8xxx-series PATA/SATA-RAID (rev 01) |
| 23:03.49 | daemonkeeper | That's a driver, not a model |
| 23:04.05 | dynamite | its the lspci output of the Raid Controller |
| 23:05.03 | daemonkeeper | Yes, not your exact controller. This is the driver using it. As far as I remember the 8xxx series was rather usable for some setups. |
| 23:05.19 | dynamite | then again - could be the 7xxx :D |
| 23:05.39 | frostschutz | I have one machine with a 3ware controller, works fine with linux... not sure which model exactly though |
| 23:05.46 | dynamite | weee! tw_cli shows the model! |
| 23:05.48 | dynamite | 8006-2LP |
| 23:05.50 | jshultz | ok, it's not just phtml files it's all php files. |
| 23:06.38 | dynamite | decent - according to the docs... http://goo.gl/oCvqL |
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| 23:08.16 | dynamite | daemonkeeper: So, do you think having a HW Controller instead of using mdraid is a mission critical fact to consider? Since the buffer scenario is quite valid and if it shows up, could end in data-loss |
| 23:08.39 | daemonkeeper | Well, what's more important than your data? |
| 23:08.44 | dynamite | nothing? |
| 23:08.45 | dynamite | :D |
| 23:08.47 | daemonkeeper | Everything else can be replaces. |
| 23:08.50 | daemonkeeper | replaced |
| 23:08.52 | dynamite | true. |
| 23:08.58 | dynamite | Raid Controller it is. |
| 23:08.59 | frostschutz | if your data is important, use backups |
| 23:09.08 | dynamite | frostschutz: errr |
| 23:09.12 | daemonkeeper | (Your data as well, if you have a working backup concept) |
| 23:09.14 | dynamite | How would that help in this scenario? |
| 23:09.21 | dynamite | frostschutz? |
| 23:09.21 | frostschutz | I don't know the scenario :) |
| 23:09.26 | dynamite | read up? |
| 23:09.43 | dynamite | not having a write-buffer in form of the battery and the write buffer on the controller |
| 23:09.47 | dynamite | when it comes to failures |
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| 23:10.54 | salvin | is netselect-apt broken in sid? |
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| 23:11.32 | somiaj | salvin: what do you mean broken? Is it not working for you? Do you have a bug? Have you checked the bug tracking system to see if anyone else has reported the bug you think you ahve found, bugs.debian.org/netselect-apt |
| 23:12.03 | Egyptian[Laptop] | hi - i am coming from fedora/rhel and i have a project that needs ubuntu - how different is ubuntu to debian? as in - do i do the project in debian or ubuntu ? |
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| 23:14.03 | anigma | why doesn't 'screen' auto complete with a space after? |
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| 23:14.40 | Arrowmaster | most autocomplete systems put a space after the command automatically |
| 23:15.02 | anigma | yes, but why doesn't it happen when I type in 'scre'? |
| 23:15.07 | anigma | could I change this somehow? |
| 23:15.09 | daemonkeeper | Egyptian[Laptop]: It should not matter for you. If Ubuntu works for you, you can use it. On the other hand there is probably nothing wrong to use Debian either for you |
| 23:15.10 | salvin | somiaj: it doesn't work for me, maybe just for me |
| 23:15.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | anigma: do you have 'screendump' installed? |
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| 23:15.43 | anigma | haha |
| 23:15.45 | anigma | now I see... |
| 23:15.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | :) |
| 23:15.57 | anigma | thanks for that |
| 23:16.00 | frankie4 | how do I stop my laptop beeping at me when I shutdown? |
| 23:16.02 | anigma | been bugging me for a long time now |
| 23:16.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | np |
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| 23:16.35 | newl | is it beeping in anger? |
| 23:16.37 | salvin | somiaj: nothing, now works |
| 23:17.29 | frankie4 | newl it's more like a fart sound |
| 23:17.45 | salvin | somiaj: no, the result is empty :) |
| 23:18.04 | anigma | Kamping_Kaiser: is it safe to remove screendump without it affecting screen? |
| 23:18.57 | newl | frankie4: more fiber? is it due to the power coming 'off' the speakers? try to shift shutting down 'sound' earlier |
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| 23:19.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | anigma: its part of the kbd package, so as long as you are willing to lose that package |
| 23:19.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | anigma: it wont affect screen in any wya |
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| 23:20.07 | newl | frankie4: better yet mute speakers in the shutdown script |
| 23:20.23 | frankie4 | newl I think its a deb thing. Ubuntu did it too but can't remember what I did to stop it |
| 23:21.06 | frankie4 | newl ah how do I do that? |
| 23:22.17 | Egyptian[Laptop] | daemonkeeper: hmm.. well... i have never used debian and the last time i literally touched ubuntu was at v4.4 .. so i can make a decision based on something as old as that |
| 23:23.10 | daemonkeeper | Egyptian[Laptop]: What answer do you expect in #debian? Of course we would suggest you Debian :) |
| 23:23.29 | Egyptian[Laptop] | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | Egyptian[Laptop]: fwiw, ubuntus first release was 4.10 :p |
| 23:23.44 | daemonkeeper | Most likely AMD64 |
| 23:23.49 | Egyptian[Laptop] | daemonkeeper: thanks |
| 23:23.51 | Egyptian[Laptop] | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks |
| 23:23.52 | frankie4 | daemokeeper are you German? |
| 23:23.58 | daemonkeeper | There is IA64 as well, but if you would need that, you would know. |
| 23:23.59 | newl | frankie4: what do you want to do? i mentioned a few things |
| 23:24.08 | frankie4 | newly |
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| 23:24.37 | frankie4 | newl mute the speakers on shutdown? |
| 23:24.50 | frankie4 | sorry on phone |
| 23:25.30 | newl | if you are using alsa mute the alsa-mixer or if using aumix mute it - check the man pages |
| 23:25.48 | frankie4 | android autocorrect is a little dumb at times |
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| 23:26.45 | frankie4 | newl OK thanks,I'll check it tomorrow. |
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| 23:29.23 | kenneth_reitz | Does debian's packaging follow the same 'no major release software upgrades' rule as ubuntu? |
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| 23:31.03 | themill | dpkg: tell kenneth_reitz about stable |
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| 23:31.29 | Egyptian[Laptop] | omigod - what are all these DVDs ? |
| 23:31.53 | kenneth_reitz | themill: thanks |
| 23:31.53 | daemonkeeper | Well, this is Debian. |
| 23:32.11 | daemonkeeper | You don't need all of them unless you install on a location where you don't have Internet access |
| 23:32.32 | houms | SynrG I tried the suggestion with nvidia earlier and while the driver was successfully installed and loaded, it still freezes but now it doesn't seem like the hot keys (ie fn+f8 for brightness) work anymore |
| 23:32.51 | Egyptian[Laptop] | daemonkeeper: dvd1 is enough? thats a relieft |
| 23:33.11 | daemonkeeper | Egyptian[Laptop]: You don't even need DVD1. CD1 is enough, as is the ~200M netinst image. |
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| 23:36.34 | Arrowmaster | i would recommend using dvd1 or the netinst image over cd1 |
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| 23:45.39 | arghh2d2 | I upgraded from squeeze to wheezy ... when i run apt-get update the deb http://mirror.rit.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main <-- don't get updated.. is that because wheezy is rolling release? |
| 23:46.07 | arghh2d2 | those line no longer necessary or is the syntax incorrect? |
| 23:46.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | why would wheezy hafve an updates repo? |
| 23:46.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | boggles |
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| 23:46.39 | daemonkeeper | Wheezy has no updates |
| 23:46.53 | daemonkeeper | (as in: testing-updates) |
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| 23:47.18 | arghh2d2 | that's what i thought.. just making sure i didn't need to change it to wheezy/updates or some other typoe |
| 23:47.34 | daemonkeeper | You could have verified yourself http://mirror.rit.edu/debian/dists/ |
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| 23:50.54 | roe | is there a way to find out the cache of a HD? |
| 23:51.20 | schoppenhauer | ok, seems like my problem is located in the x11-version of squeeze. using a debian kernel with a xorg from ubuntu maverick works perfectly. |
| 23:51.35 | schoppenhauer | but there does not appear to be a backport of xorg yet |
| 23:51.52 | schoppenhauer | and I would like to stay with stable. |
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| 23:53.54 | houms | i am having trouble with nvidia 460, it freezes on login. |
| 23:54.11 | ecc | roe: hdparm -I /dev/.. |
| 23:54.18 | roe | ecc, thanks |
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| 23:55.45 | houms | this is the commands i ran according to dpkg advice |
| 23:56.04 | houms | http://pastebin.com/fFHMHpQn |
| 23:56.05 | newl | roe is that what you meant or what data is waiting to be flushed/synced in the hd cache? |
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| 23:56.24 | roe | no I'm looking to find out how big the cache is on the HDs that are installed |
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| 23:56.34 | roe | although I don't see that info in hdparm |
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| 23:57.22 | ecc | roe: when I do "hdparm -I" it's under the "Configuration" section, right after the device size info |
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| 23:57.52 | roe | http://pastebin.com/AsMSjBpu |
| 23:57.55 | roe | am I missing it |
| 23:57.56 | roe | ? |
| 23:58.46 | roe | here's the full output: http://pastebin.com/RYucD7NN |
| 23:58.48 | houms | now on boot i do get startpar: service(s) returned failure: udev ... failed! |
| 23:59.01 | houms | not sure if its related to hard freeze |
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