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| 00:00.20 | ner0x | EyesOnly_: I use gnome. |
| 00:00.44 | EyesOnly_ | ner0x: still doesnt mean you cant use KDE binaries.... |
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| 00:01.34 | ner0x | True, I'd rather not though. |
| 00:02.21 | EyesOnly_ | ner0x: KDE and Gnome are (in basic terms) just software collections. |
| 00:02.57 | ner0x | Right right, but the services that run beneath them, I tend to notice that KDE or Gnome specific software uses them. |
| 00:04.31 | EyesOnly_ | ner0x: yeah this is true, they arent ONLY software collections, they are an entire framework and services and such. The annoying part would be downloading a ton of dependancies and stuff to run thu kde ware |
| 00:04.33 | prewarkish | fastest way to get ftpd up and serving anonymous requests to folde /stuff |
| 00:04.40 | prewarkish | what is, sorry |
| 00:05.21 | prewarkish | hm, that would be ftpd, i guess |
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| 00:07.12 | abdelkhalak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:08.00 | abrotman | use as what ? |
| 00:08.29 | prewarkish | abrotman, server possibly |
| 00:08.47 | abrotman | nick didn't change? |
| 00:08.50 | abrotman | i was asking abdelkhalak |
| 00:09.00 | abdelkhalak | abrotman desktop |
| 00:09.01 | prewarkish | i thought i was addressing him ;/ |
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| 00:09.12 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: really? how much RAM ? |
| 00:09.20 | Gump | #debian, where can i talk to someone with knowledge about vlc player? do they have an irc channel somewhere? |
| 00:09.38 | abdelkhalak | i plan to use openoffice, internet browsing |
| 00:09.38 | Soothsayer | Would there be any issues while doing an upgrade from lenny to squeeze if my server has software raid-1 enabled? |
| 00:09.46 | abrotman | Gump: /msg alis list *vlc* |
| 00:09.47 | prewarkish | #videolan Gump |
| 00:09.53 | abrotman | Soothsayer: should work |
| 00:10.01 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: how much RAM ? |
| 00:10.13 | abdelkhalak | abrotman 256M |
| 00:10.20 | Soothsayer | abrotman: I've read / heard about GRUB -- > Grub 2 issues or so. I'm not so savvy about such concepts, should I be worried? |
| 00:10.31 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: libre/open-office is going to be slow |
| 00:10.41 | prewarkish | i've managed to run lenny on 96MB |
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| 00:10.43 | abrotman | Soothsayer: i would imagine swraid works fine |
| 00:10.53 | abrotman | prewarkish: yes .. but do you run it as a desktop with openoffice? |
| 00:11.01 | prewarkish | nope. just a server |
| 00:11.03 | abdelkhalak | abrotman: what if i used open office 2.4 from lenny? |
| 00:11.12 | abrotman | i've managed to run lenny on 64MB .. it wasn't a GUI, so what |
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| 00:11.30 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: squeeze has openoffice anyway .. |
| 00:11.30 | prewarkish | i didn't notice what he said up there ;/ |
| 00:12.04 | abdelkhalak | abrotman: i plan to use lenny |
| 00:12.17 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: why? squeeze is stable, and will have security support for longer |
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| 00:13.17 | EyesOnly_ | abrotman: its also new, and optimized for newer hardware, and has higher system requirements and suc |
| 00:13.25 | abdelkhalak | abrotman do you think it will install on 5 GB with 1 G swap? |
| 00:13.36 | abrotman | EyesOnly_: the requirements are nearly the same |
| 00:13.46 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: which DE/WM do you plan to use? |
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| 00:14.06 | abdelkhalak | abrotman with gnome or lxde |
| 00:14.26 | abrotman | i'd probably use lxde |
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| 00:14.47 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: i'd try squeeze, with lxde .. see how it works for you .. |
| 00:14.48 | project2501a | friends don't let friends use ubuntu |
| 00:14.55 | abrotman | project2501a: wrong channel |
| 00:14.58 | abdelkhalak | abrotman what if thje video card won't work? |
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| 00:15.00 | project2501a | urgh. |
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| 00:15.08 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: what is the video card? |
| 00:15.55 | abdelkhalak | S3 Graphics Inc , Trio3D |
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| 00:16.19 | abdelkhalak | abrotman:S3 Graphics Inc , Trio3D |
| 00:16.21 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: i'm so sorry .. |
| 00:16.29 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: your first job should be to get another video card :( |
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| 00:16.47 | abdelkhalak | abrotman: why? |
| 00:16.49 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: i don't think i've successfully had one of those work since sarge |
| 00:16.55 | abrotman | we had a pile of them at work |
| 00:17.16 | abrotman | maybe etch .. |
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| 00:17.28 | abdelkhalak | abrotman; maybe on debian etch it's still supported |
| 00:17.33 | abrotman | i also don't have the patience for those crappy cards .. so i didn't mess with them for very long |
| 00:17.51 | abrotman | abdelkhalak: maybe, but etch has a pile of security issues .. not safe for browsing the web |
| 00:18.21 | EyesOnly_ | project2501a: ...industrial espionage and intelligence manipulation. I have installed programs into specific ghosts in order to maximize the strategic advantages of certain organizations and selected individuals. |
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| 00:19.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | EyesOnly_: :D |
| 00:19.44 | EyesOnly_ | Kamping_Kaiser: :D! |
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| 00:20.40 | project2501a | EyesOnly_: when i was a child, i thought like a child and i spoke like a child. but now i am a man, and i no longer need the childish ways and i can say this in my own voice. |
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| 00:21.26 | EyesOnly_ | project2501a: what was that from? i know that but cant remember where its from |
| 00:21.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | GitS:SAC |
| 00:22.01 | project2501a | actually it is from GiTS |
| 00:22.03 | EyesOnly_ | #debian anyone willing to help me out with my misbehaving internal usb bluetooth adapter? |
| 00:22.06 | project2501a | not from SAC |
| 00:22.24 | project2501a | EyesOnly_: not really. but do go ahead and tell us what is wrong with it. |
| 00:22.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | project2501a: really? hm... i have some revision to do |
| 00:22.35 | project2501a | or at least what you think it is. |
| 00:22.38 | ragnar76 | whats that about? >>> Failed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /org/freedesktop/systemd1/private: Connection refused <<< |
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| 00:23.07 | EyesOnly_ | project2501a: havent seen sac in ages, just recently rewatched the movies |
| 00:23.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | ragnar76: it about you running software not available in stable, and it breaking |
| 00:23.38 | ragnar76 | Kamping_Kaiser: yes, i'm running wheezy |
| 00:24.06 | cookiemon5ter | how does debian configure network interfaces ? |
| 00:24.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell ragnar76 about wheezy |
| 00:24.11 | ragnar76 | Kamping_Kaiser: but how can i fix it? i'm in a half of upgrade process |
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| 00:24.13 | cookiemon5ter | i mean where's the config file |
| 00:24.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell cookiemon5ter about networking |
| 00:24.44 | EyesOnly_ | #debian well, it shows up as active and working in lsusb, atheros 3011, but any bluetooth applications (includinc hcitool) dont see it. |
| 00:24.46 | cookiemon5ter | i installed debian and it auto loads wifi info i selected to use when i installed i don't want that |
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| 00:25.08 | EyesOnly_ | #debian well, it shows up as active and working in lsusb, atheros 3011, but any bluetooth applications (includinc hcitool) dont see it. |
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| 00:25.18 | EyesOnly_ | woops sorry |
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| 00:25.48 | cookiemon5ter | nice bot |
| 00:26.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | knows nothing about bluetooth |
| 00:26.55 | cookiemon5ter | if you have blue teeth you should consult the dentist |
| 00:27.48 | EyesOnly_ | cookiemon5ter: they said it was in my genes! i cant help it :( |
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| 00:28.38 | cookiemon5ter | EyesOnly_: quit chewing on your blue jeans |
| 00:29.34 | EyesOnly_ | cookiemon5ter: but they taste good! its that new laundry detergent! |
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| 00:32.03 | cookiemon5ter | alright i have to read this man now |
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| 00:44.15 | EyesOnly_ | apparently my bluetooth isnt supported in my kernel. it was addd in 2.6.33 |
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| 00:48.25 | abrotman | !backports |
| 00:48.25 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>, <volatile>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 00:49.44 | cookiemon5ter | does aptitude or apg-get have a pretend option or ask ? |
| 00:49.52 | abrotman | read the man page |
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| 00:54.11 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 00:54.28 | abrotman | what's good about it?! |
| 00:55.15 | dvs | yeah? |
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| 00:56.35 | sage000 | we were left behind ;) |
| 00:57.06 | dvs | causes mayhem! |
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| 01:07.04 | stew | abrotman: did that make your night better? |
| 01:07.20 | abrotman | oh heck yes |
| 01:07.31 | abrotman | assumes stew means the sox game |
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| 01:10.55 | nvz | calls all state to deal with dvs |
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| 01:15.38 | strangerer | I like to disable the root account and use sudo instead, but for some reason whenever I try to perform an administrative task (removing a printer) in gnome it asks for the root pw |
| 01:15.45 | strangerer | I issued $ gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/gksu/sudo-mode 1 |
| 01:16.03 | strangerer | and things still aren't working quite right |
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| 01:16.45 | strangerer | ideally, it would ask for the pw of someone in my sudoers file instead of root |
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| 01:17.05 | un214 | meh |
| 01:17.29 | charles | How do I install nVidia drivers for Debian? |
| 01:17.41 | Kobaz | so. i have random file corruption problems. memtest checks out fine after 100+ passes, i've replaced the power supply, and i've replaced the hard drive, and a while ago i replaced the motherboard... the last thing is the cpu and video card... what are some tests I could check the cpu/video with? |
| 01:17.46 | un214 | !nvidia |
| 01:17.46 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. See <nvidia lenny> for oldstable. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:18.15 | dvs | strangerer: If you add yourself to the lpadmin group, you shouldn't need a password for printer stuff. |
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| 01:18.30 | strangerer | Kobaz, I don't know about cpu/video testing, but do you have brownouts, etc? |
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| 01:18.35 | strangerer | dvs, thanks! |
| 01:18.42 | dvs | np |
| 01:18.50 | Kobaz | strangerer: running off of a ups |
| 01:18.52 | un214 | good point |
| 01:19.18 | un214 | try unplugging your UPS and plugging it back in |
| 01:19.24 | un214 | if your machine dies you've got a problem |
| 01:19.33 | Kobaz | the ups isn't the issue |
| 01:19.41 | dvs | had that happen |
| 01:19.46 | Kobaz | i'm actually on a different ups from the original one i was one |
| 01:19.52 | Kobaz | it can survive a power outage |
| 01:19.58 | Kobaz | my machine can run about 10 minutes |
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| 01:20.31 | dvs | Kobaz: But has an outtage actually happened? |
| 01:20.31 | Kobaz | i've upgraded the kernel too |
| 01:20.37 | un214 | if you're using nvidia graphics card, lose it |
| 01:20.39 | Kobaz | yeah, had one a few weeks ago |
| 01:20.49 | Kobaz | me? |
| 01:20.51 | cusco | Kobaz: couldn't it be software? |
| 01:20.56 | Kobaz | it could be |
| 01:20.57 | cusco | what fs are you using? |
| 01:21.00 | Kobaz | ext3 |
| 01:21.05 | un214 | yes you Kobaz |
| 01:21.11 | Kobaz | yeah i have an nvidia |
| 01:21.22 | Kobaz | i have nvidia's in plenty of other machines |
| 01:21.26 | un214 | I dropped the nvidia drivers due to memory corruption |
| 01:21.30 | cusco | I don't see how nvidia can cause random file corruption |
| 01:21.47 | Datz | so, I'm trying to install a virtual package. I see it is available, but when I try and install it, aptitude prints: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
| 01:21.49 | un214 | does |
| 01:21.52 | Kobaz | my libgtk.so files would randomly change from day to day |
| 01:22.02 | Kobaz | if you have memory corruption you can corrupt anything |
| 01:22.07 | cusco | Kobaz: that sounds like rootkit |
| 01:22.19 | un214 | yeah I agree it shouldn't be the same files |
| 01:22.26 | Kobaz | it's random files |
| 01:22.36 | Kobaz | chrome md5sum is different today than yesterday |
| 01:22.44 | Kobaz | debsums checks out for everything else though |
| 01:22.46 | cusco | argh |
| 01:22.50 | cusco | I dunno |
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| 01:23.12 | un214 | does mounting /usr readonly still work? |
| 01:23.14 | cusco | i can only think about using inotify tools to check every time a certain file is open for writting |
| 01:23.23 | Kobaz | well |
| 01:23.24 | Datz | I don't understant what's going on here. Can someone help me? http://pastebin.com/iUt8i1LN |
| 01:23.28 | Kobaz | i've had this problem on another machine |
| 01:23.31 | Kobaz | it was a bad power supply |
| 01:23.43 | Kobaz | but it was a much much worse problem, like 50 files would change every day |
| 01:23.48 | cusco | how can a bad power supply cause file corruption? o.O |
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| 01:23.56 | cusco | disk not having 12 volts? |
| 01:24.03 | Kobaz | or having more |
| 01:24.10 | un214 | bad power supply causes memory corruption which in turn causes disk corruption |
| 01:24.15 | cusco | ok.. |
| 01:24.26 | un214 | also undervolt while writing hd is very bad |
| 01:24.34 | cusco | weird.... |
| 01:24.52 | Kobaz | i've read some stories about zfs helping people find about bad power supplies |
| 01:25.29 | Kobaz | but everything on this machine has been replaced, except the cpu, ram, and motherboard |
| 01:25.31 | un214 | its kind of spooky to find out that everything we're based on has bizarre silent almost undetectable failure modes |
| 01:25.36 | Kobaz | but memtest checks out the ram okay |
| 01:25.44 | Kobaz | haha, yeah |
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| 01:26.00 | un214 | memtest tests ram, cpu, southbridge |
| 01:26.07 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 01:26.17 | Kobaz | not all of the cpu i would imagine though |
| 01:26.29 | Kobaz | maybe i'll try a different video card then |
| 01:26.35 | Kobaz | i'll need to get a dual head ati |
| 01:26.48 | un214 | how frequent? |
| 01:26.59 | un214 | !debsums |
| 01:27.00 | dpkg | from memory, debsums is a utility that will check a package's files against their checksums. The "-a" argument will instruct it to also check configuration files. |
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| 01:27.06 | Kobaz | like once or twice a week a file will change |
| 01:27.13 | Datz | I don't understant what's going on here. Can someone help me? I don't understand why aptitude isn't working correctly. http://pastebin.com/iUt8i1LN |
| 01:27.33 | Kobaz | but about once every two weeks my machine will totally tie |
| 01:27.34 | Kobaz | die |
| 01:27.39 | Kobaz | which sounds like memory corruption |
| 01:27.45 | Kobaz | i'll open up a new tab in firefox or chrome |
| 01:27.51 | Kobaz | and poof, x crashes, machine locks up |
| 01:27.53 | un214 | well if you're willing to live for 2 weeks on vesa graphics you can isolate graphics card easily |
| 01:28.29 | Kobaz | new file change for today: /usr/share/menu/opera |
| 01:28.44 | craigevil | Datz, v means it is a virtual package do a search to find the actual package name |
| 01:29.10 | Datz | hum |
| 01:29.24 | Datz | I can install other virtual packages |
| 01:29.33 | Datz | that should be a perl module package |
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| 01:29.59 | Datz | or not? |
| 01:30.04 | Datz | goes searching |
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| 01:32.01 | valdyn | Datz: virtual packages need at least 1 package that provides it |
| 01:32.11 | Kobaz | i guess installing windows and running 3dmark would test the video card |
| 01:32.22 | Kobaz | but then it wouldn't be testing the linux drivers |
| 01:32.29 | Kobaz | i'm just trying to figure out if it's a hardware problem or not |
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| 01:32.39 | valdyn | Kobaz: can you compile a kernel? |
| 01:32.44 | Datz | valdyn: ah, I see, so it would be most likey some collection of perl modues.. |
| 01:32.53 | Kobaz | valdyn: yeah |
| 01:32.54 | DammitJim | what iso should I download for a 64 bit install on an intel core 2 duo machine? AMD64? |
| 01:33.07 | dvs | yes |
| 01:33.12 | DammitJim | ty |
| 01:33.15 | dvs | np |
| 01:33.32 | Arrowmaster | you are sure its a core 2 duo and not a core duo? |
| 01:34.15 | valdyn | Kobaz: try again while your video card is loaded ( heating up ) |
| 01:34.19 | Datz | valdyn: is there any easy way to find out what package includes this collection of virtual packages? |
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| 01:34.23 | Kobaz | mm |
| 01:34.27 | Kobaz | i don't really load it with anything |
| 01:34.27 | abrotman | DammitJim: download the multiarch .. try the 64bit, if it fails, use the 32bit |
| 01:34.32 | Kobaz | i code c, perl and surf the web |
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| 01:34.37 | valdyn | Datz: aptitude search would list it if there was one |
| 01:34.43 | Kobaz | full screen crack attack maybe? |
| 01:35.02 | valdyn | Datz: or actually "apt-cache search" would, i never use aptitude search and i dont know what it actually does |
| 01:35.08 | Datz | ah |
| 01:35.13 | Datz | I'll try that thanks |
| 01:35.43 | Kobaz | loads crack-attack |
| 01:35.53 | craigevil | apt-cache search libtime-hires-perl shows perl - Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language, apt-file search shows nothing |
| 01:36.21 | Datz | valdyn: ok, I see a package called "devscripts" I think. Can I see what virtual packages this package includes? |
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| 01:37.01 | Datz | ok, when I try to install, they are listed, thanks valdyn |
| 01:37.07 | valdyn | Datz: "apt-cache show <package> | grep Provides" or similar |
| 01:37.14 | Datz | ah, great :) |
| 01:37.32 | Kobaz | still going |
| 01:37.46 | Kobaz | full screen crack attack and a make -j3 kernel |
| 01:38.04 | jair | hello guys, |
| 01:38.13 | valdyn | Kobaz: kernel compilation is a fairly decent system check but sure it cannot reliably find everything.. |
| 01:38.40 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 01:38.51 | jair | if I want to see the messages printed during the booting process of debian squeeze 64bit, what log file can I less or cat? I tried dmesg and some of the var/log/.... |
| 01:38.52 | Kobaz | that was always my first tipoff of a problem that a kernel compile killed the computer |
| 01:39.15 | jair | I pressed [pause] key but could not stop the boot sequence... |
| 01:39.19 | valdyn | Kobaz: for bad ram it should just throw an internal compiler error |
| 01:39.46 | valdyn | Kobaz: a crash would probably a shutdown caused by overheating |
| 01:40.00 | jair | I am trying to find out the information printed about blacklist.conf something that will be ignored in the future and pass by too fast for me to read it. |
| 01:40.05 | DanDare | It's ok to change /var/www permission to 771 ? |
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| 01:40.29 | DanDare | I want other people (in www-group), able to create/;change files there |
| 01:40.37 | DanDare | *www-data group |
| 01:40.59 | Kobaz | aww |
| 01:41.00 | valdyn | Datz: thats bad |
| 01:41.02 | Kobaz | 381 points |
| 01:41.07 | Kobaz | i used to be really good at crack attack |
| 01:41.08 | valdyn | DanDare: that is very bad |
| 01:41.21 | dvs | DanDare: Mine is already 1775 |
| 01:41.39 | stew | DanDare: do you actually need the webserver process to be able to write to /var/www? |
| 01:41.41 | valdyn | DanDare: www-data is used to seperate apache from your data |
| 01:41.46 | dvs | (assuming 1 is the sticky bit) |
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| 01:42.01 | valdyn | DanDare: its not for user access control, that would defeat the purpose |
| 01:42.26 | DanDare | stew, I think i dont want... but not sure :/ |
| 01:42.31 | DanDare | *dont need |
| 01:42.43 | DanDare | hmm, right |
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| 01:43.10 | DanDare | so I may set /var/www subdirectories to other user/group I want/need ? |
| 01:43.13 | Kobaz | oh wow |
| 01:43.20 | Kobaz | 4x dvi output cards |
| 01:43.26 | DanDare | I mean, its ok if files there arent www-data:www-data ? |
| 01:44.03 | valdyn | DanDare: its absolutely not ok if files there are www-data:www-data |
| 01:44.24 | DanDare | Oh |
| 01:44.28 | DanDare | So im all wrong here |
| 01:44.57 | valdyn | DanDare: there may be applications where apache needs write access somewhere, but in general, see above |
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| 01:45.27 | DanDare | Ok, I think i understand now... thanks |
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| 01:46.34 | valdyn | DanDare: create a new group for user access |
| 01:46.46 | valdyn | DanDare: for more complex stuff you might need acl support |
| 01:47.55 | DanDare | I had my site working (all files there were www-data:www-data), i changed permissions of all files to another user:group. Now page wont show up. What it means ? |
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| 01:48.16 | DanDare | getting "Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0" |
| 01:48.33 | DanDare | its a PHP index.html |
| 01:48.54 | jair | how can I enable debian to collect the messages from the booting process? |
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| 01:49.04 | Kobaz | valdyn: okay, something is really really fscked up |
| 01:49.20 | Kobaz | valdyn: i downloaded a new kernel. tar xvf: bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. |
| 01:49.28 | Kobaz | insta-corrupt |
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| 01:49.52 | jair | I am trying to capture a number of warning messages but debian keep booting even after pressing pause key and I check all the log files and none of them are logging the warning info... |
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| 01:50.03 | Gryllida | mysql install problem http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1234009 |
| 01:50.28 | Kobaz | jair: there's a kernel option you can pass from grub to add a delay between kernel printks. which will slow down the boot process and let you see the warnings |
| 01:50.49 | jair | Kobaz: nice I will google for it |
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| 01:51.13 | Kobaz | it takes some playing with to get the delay right, if you add too little it won't slow down, if you add too much delay, it will take 6 hours to boot |
| 01:51.25 | Kobaz | i forgot the name of the option, but it's really useful |
| 01:51.48 | jair | Kobaz: I will google about it the debian kernel |
| 01:51.52 | jair | thank you sir! |
| 01:52.02 | Kobaz | it's in the standard linux kernel, so it will be in the debian kernel packages |
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| 01:53.54 | Gryllida | hello |
| 01:54.01 | DanDare | should I take a look into "SuexecUserGroup" in my Vhosts conmfiguration files ? |
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| 02:07.33 | jonesst1 | anybody here use dovecot? |
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| 02:07.54 | abrotman | lots of people, ask your real questoin |
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| 02:08.33 | jonesst1 | hmm on 5.0 im trying to re-set it to work and its not working so Im wondering what config i need to do for it |
| 02:09.11 | jonesst1 | i can telnet to 143 and dovecot replies |
| 02:09.29 | jonesst1 | but thunderbird cant see the content of the inbox |
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| 02:12.54 | Delf | My computer freezes with the new kernel. 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 02:13.36 | Delf | Also, it is the only one shown in grub2. I'm running Squeeze. How do I use a slightly older kernel? |
| 02:13.59 | jonesst1 | specify the older kernel with apt |
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| 02:14.09 | jonesst1 | i would think |
| 02:14.10 | Delf | I don't get that far |
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| 02:14.30 | jonesst1 | oh |
| 02:14.38 | jonesst1 | not good |
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| 02:14.51 | Delf | Using "recovery mode" I don't even seem to get the nic to obtain ip from dhcp. |
| 02:15.16 | Delf | I've tried dhclient eth1 |
| 02:15.25 | Delf | but not much happens |
| 02:15.39 | jonesst1 | i wouldnt know how to recover if u only have a shot kernel |
| 02:15.45 | jonesst1 | i'd just re-install |
| 02:16.06 | abrotman | Delf: i have a 'test' machine at work that seems to have not come back either :( |
| 02:16.07 | jonesst1 | sorry cant help |
| 02:16.21 | Delf | Outch.. |
| 02:16.30 | Delf | I just re-installed. It is a fresh install. |
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| 02:17.08 | jonesst1 | so u have older media? |
| 02:17.10 | Delf | jonesst1: It's ok. I appreciate that you tried. |
| 02:17.28 | Delf | Debian Lenny? |
| 02:17.42 | rhenani | Hello guys |
| 02:17.50 | rhenani | I have an upgrade for my kernel |
| 02:17.54 | rhenani | How can i get it ? |
| 02:17.58 | Delf | I had lenny, it was working fine. I was told to install Squeeze. So I used dist-update and everything went fine. |
| 02:18.39 | Delf | Untill it rebooted the computer and got stuck where I'm stuck right now. So I thought maybe something went wrong somewhere, I re-installed yet same problem persists. |
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| 02:18.42 | jonesst1 | but then it wouldnt reboot? |
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| 02:19.03 | jonesst1 | did you try booting to runlevel 1? |
| 02:19.16 | Delf | No, how is that done? |
| 02:19.21 | jonesst1 | brb got to go for a pee |
| 02:19.44 | Delf | :) |
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| 02:21.09 | abrotman | Delf: if you still have the install media, you could try installing the kernel from that? |
| 02:21.16 | abrotman | oh, you need it booted for that |
| 02:21.40 | jonesst1 | what are your symptoms? |
| 02:21.50 | jonesst1 | where/when does it fail? |
| 02:22.26 | Delf | abrotman: I used netinst. I still have it. |
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| 02:23.01 | Delf | when it is about to load the "graphical login" |
| 02:23.12 | jonesst1 | ah ok |
| 02:23.19 | jonesst1 | might not be the kernel then |
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| 02:23.43 | Delf | It's probably not, but when I used older kernel before I did fresh re-install. It did work. |
| 02:24.04 | jonesst1 | ok so reboot it and when you see the grub menu use arrow keys to highlight the kernel and hit e to edit, put in 3 and then b to boot |
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| 02:24.13 | Delf | Only older kernel would work after dist-upgrade. New one does whati t does now |
| 02:24.26 | kdog | The upgrade instructions might hold some clues for you: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/index.en.html |
| 02:25.29 | Delf | 5.7.1. Obsolete Xorg drivers? |
| 02:25.35 | Delf | Holy hell.. |
| 02:26.04 | rhenani | How can i upgrade my kernel version ?? |
| 02:26.05 | Delf | Are there any logs I can look at? |
| 02:26.27 | jonesst1 | rhenai you specify it i think in apt |
| 02:26.34 | abrotman | rhenani: from what to what? |
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| 02:26.49 | abrotman | Delf: is it a multi-cpu machine ? |
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| 02:27.20 | Delf | abrotman: No, singel. |
| 02:27.26 | abrotman | that blows my theory! |
| 02:27.37 | rhenani | from |
| 02:27.47 | jonesst1 | su - |
| 02:27.54 | jonesst1 | oops |
| 02:27.54 | rhenani | 2.6.32-5 to the new one |
| 02:27.56 | Delf | I can see a grey line top left corner of the screen. |
| 02:27.57 | jonesst1 | doh |
| 02:28.06 | rhenani | how can i upgrade the kernel? |
| 02:28.54 | abrotman | what new one? |
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| 02:29.20 | jonesst1 | try apt-get install linux-image-<version> |
| 02:29.28 | Delf | rhenani: your running the latest "stable". |
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| 02:29.56 | rhenani | Delf: But even if i am i want to learn to do it in the future |
| 02:30.09 | rhenani | Delf: Can you help me please? |
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| 02:30.27 | jonesst1 | rhenani that command should work i think |
| 02:30.35 | jonesst1 | try apt-get install linux-image-<version> |
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| 02:31.04 | pythonirc1012 | I've a library sitting in a directory that a python program can not find -- I added the path to LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Is there anything else i need to do? ldd libyaafecore.so.0.61.0 -- outputs -- No such file or directory |
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| 02:35.27 | jonesst1 | ldconfig? |
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| 02:36.24 | Delf | rhenani: I'm a newbie myself. I'm not sure but I think you would want to edit sources |
| 02:37.18 | rhenani | Delf: Thank you |
| 02:38.11 | karlpinc | !tell rhenani about overview |
| 02:38.13 | jonesst1 | rhenani u want to make your own kernel? |
| 02:38.46 | karlpinc | rhenani: There's info there regarding getting newer stuff for stable, and why you might or might not want to. |
| 02:38.58 | Delf | yay! specifying ip# manually gets the job done. I now have internet access. How to install older kernel? I type aptitude and it shows lots of packages that are installed and that aren't installed. |
| 02:38.59 | karlpinc | rhenani: ("There" being in the above factoid.) |
| 02:39.12 | Delf | I can't find any older kernel there. |
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| 02:39.31 | karlpinc | !tell rhenani about make-kpkg |
| 02:39.33 | jonesst1 | delf Im wondering if its not a kernel issue |
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| 02:40.16 | jonesst1 | you have the machine booting via a cdrom? |
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| 02:40.52 | karlpinc | rhenani: (Although if you told us why you wanted a newer kernel we might be able to help with the real problem.) |
| 02:41.46 | jonesst1 | grr....must be a dovecot setting |
| 02:41.47 | jonesst1 | :/ |
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| 02:43.35 | DammitJim | I got squeeze installed |
| 02:43.56 | dvs | and....? |
| 02:43.56 | Delf | jonesst1: I'm in recovery mode. No gui. |
| 02:43.58 | DammitJim | can I just :%s/squeeze/wheezy/g in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 02:44.33 | dvs | !iyhtays |
| 02:44.33 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 02:44.34 | jonesst1 | delf so u booting off the hdrive? |
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| 02:46.51 | rhenani | karlpinc: I had the new version guys thanks |
| 02:47.00 | rhenani | Thank you for the help |
| 02:47.08 | rhenani | Just wanted to know |
| 02:47.18 | rhenani | I just did apt-get upgrade ;)! |
| 02:47.34 | rhenani | =D! |
| 02:48.09 | rhenani | But if you could send me a place or a way to know if the kernel is the newest version that would be great! |
| 02:48.17 | oldirty | rhenani, uname -a |
| 02:48.47 | oldirty | !iyhtays |
| 02:48.48 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 02:48.51 | rhenani | oldirty: THAT GIVE THE VERSION of my kernel but how do i know if is the newest? >.> |
| 02:49.00 | oldirty | rhenani, google. |
| 02:49.09 | Wyzard | rhenani: Compare against http://www.kernel.org/ |
| 02:49.14 | Delf | how do I specify gateway and dns server using ifconfig? |
| 02:49.17 | rhenani | oldirty: Thanks (^_^)(")! |
| 02:49.28 | Delf | I only see ip# and netmask when using --help. |
| 02:49.37 | oldirty | Delf, you don't |
| 02:49.56 | Wyzard | well, gateway you do |
| 02:50.06 | dvs | rhenani: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-$arch |
| 02:50.07 | Wyzard | DNS server is specified in /etc/resolv.conf, not /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 02:50.10 | oldirty | Delf, gateway is 'route add default gw "$GATEWAY_IP"' |
| 02:50.22 | Wyzard | Oh, nevermind, I misread ifconfig as ifupdown |
| 02:50.39 | DammitJim | is there no http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/main/source/Sources.gz? |
| 02:50.50 | DammitJim | I wonder if I need to comment out those deb lines in sources.list |
| 02:50.55 | oldirty | DNS is 'echo "nameserver $DNS_IP" > /etc/resolv.conf' |
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| 02:53.06 | oldirty | DammitJim, yes. |
| 02:53.20 | oldirty | DammitJim, apt-get update should not return 404's |
| 02:54.14 | Delf | Never mind, dhclient worked. |
| 02:54.33 | oldirty | DammitJim, it looks like there is a wheezy-proposed-updates, but i wouldn't trust it... |
| 02:54.46 | Delf | Now.. how to download and install old kernel? I've used apt-get install kernel-image<version> with no luck |
| 02:55.20 | oldirty | Delf, that should be just 'linux-image', if memory serves |
| 02:55.27 | oldirty | it's a virtual package pointing to latest |
| 02:56.04 | oldirty | but i'm pretty well drunk right now, so i could be completely wrong |
| 02:57.13 | jonesst1 | delf are you booting off the putr's harddrive? |
| 02:57.50 | jonesst1 | jonesst1 could do with a beer about now |
| 02:58.00 | DammitJim | man, I hope testing isn't broken |
| 02:58.01 | jonesst1 | mybe 2 |
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| 02:58.17 | rburn | ~ |
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| 03:00.32 | _habnabit | Is there any way in /etc/network/interfaces to add multiple addresses to an interface (ipv4 and ipv6) without having to do eth0:0, etc. ? |
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| 03:01.18 | stew | _habnabit: up ip addr add 1.2.3.4/32 dev eth0 |
| 03:01.50 | _habnabit | stew, can an interface have multiple 'up' lines ? |
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| 03:02.05 | stew | yes |
| 03:02.11 | _habnabit | okay cool |
| 03:02.12 | yang` | yang:hello |
| 03:02.45 | yang` | yang:hello |
| 03:03.08 | _habnabit | yang`:hello |
| 03:03.29 | jonesst1 | hello yang |
| 03:03.41 | DammitJim | once I do an apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade, do I need to reboot to start using the new kernel? |
| 03:03.49 | wols | DammitJim: obviously |
| 03:03.58 | jonesst1 | dammitjim yes |
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| 03:04.00 | rhenani | Hello guys |
| 03:04.14 | rhenani | I want to install kde as a graphical interface |
| 03:04.26 | rhenani | do i just do apt-get install kde? >.> |
| 03:04.32 | Delf | Yay! |
| 03:04.33 | wols | !tell rhenani about install kde |
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| 03:05.00 | Delf | installed older kernel and now it's working! :D |
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| 03:05.07 | Delf | How to set default kernel in grub? |
| 03:05.47 | wols | Delf: /etc/default/grub allows you to set a default. 0 started numbering. after that run update-grub |
| 03:05.52 | jonesst1 | there will be a line default 0 |
| 03:06.00 | wols | and yes I know it sucks the number thing :( |
| 03:06.00 | krisfremen | hey guys |
| 03:06.06 | krisfremen | what was the command to debug ssh? |
| 03:06.17 | krisfremen | !ssh |
| 03:06.17 | dpkg | [ssh] the Secure SHell; "aptitude install ssh" (<openssh>). Clients for other platforms include <putty>, <cygwin>, <niftytelnet> and MacSSH. It's _unwise_ to enable both RSA and password authentication. Firewalls to mitigate against brute-force attacks on your SSH server include <fail2ban> and <denyhosts>. See also <scp>, <sftp>, <ssh without password>, <ssh permissions>, <sshx>, <ssh linedraw>, <debug sshd>, <dropbear>, <ssh-copy-id>. |
| 03:06.18 | wols | krisfremen: lots of -vvvvv ? |
| 03:06.21 | ZitZ | hi, does anyone know how long it takes bugs to be approved or posted to the system after you send them to submit@debianbugs or whatever? I sent a couple on Saturday and they still don't seem to be accepted |
| 03:06.37 | krisfremen | wols: no, something to do with foregrounding it and all that |
| 03:06.55 | krisfremen | !sshdebug |
| 03:07.25 | wols | !tell krisfremen about msgthebot |
| 03:07.34 | stew | dpkg: tell krisfremen about debug sshd |
| 03:07.45 | krisfremen | aha, there we go |
| 03:07.47 | krisfremen | thanks stew |
| 03:08.02 | stew | ZitZ: an hour or less |
| 03:08.10 | stew | ZitZ: often just a few minutes |
| 03:08.29 | ZitZ | stew: really? then this is strange, the email was sent, why aren't they accepting my bugs? |
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| 03:14.28 | stew | ZitZ: really. did you use reportbug? |
| 03:14.45 | abrotman | wonders what broke in the kernel upgrade in squeeze .. |
| 03:15.15 | stew | ZitZ: i filed a bug 45 minutes ago and it took 13 minutes to get the reply |
| 03:15.16 | ZitZ | yep, used reportbug like a good boy |
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| 03:15.58 | Akuw | Hi |
| 03:16.04 | stew | ZitZ: are you sure the mail made it to bugs.debian.org? |
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| 03:16.58 | ZitZ | i'm fairly confident, it's in my sent folder |
| 03:17.04 | Akuw | i am getting this error in a webpage Error 330 (net::ERR_CONTENT_DECODING_FAILED) |
| 03:18.07 | ZitZ | yeah, they're both in my sent folder to submit@bugs.debian.org |
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| 03:23.24 | rypervenche | Is it possible to get Chromium 11 in Debian 6.0.1 Stable? I have tried apt-pinning with no success, both with "aptitude -t sid install chromium" and "aptitude install chromium/sid". There are too many dependancy issues. Any ideas? |
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| 03:25.31 | DammitJim | what's the difference between chromium and chrome? |
| 03:25.53 | oldirty | chromium is the parent project of chrome |
| 03:26.00 | DammitJim | oh |
| 03:26.09 | DammitJim | does it have a richer feature set or something? |
| 03:26.10 | abrotman | isn't there a chrome-os too ? |
| 03:26.21 | oldirty | there is a chrome os, but i'm completely unfamiliar with it |
| 03:26.32 | DammitJim | yes, abrotman ... they are going to start selling those Samsung chrome-books |
| 03:26.39 | ZitZ | well, my nautilus bug was submitted but not the bug i submitted to udev about a missing dependency, but the udev maintainer is a prick so i'm not surprised |
| 03:26.43 | oldirty | i was going to set it up on a vm, but then i found out you have to compile (might have changed?) |
| 03:26.48 | DammitJim | I applied to get one, but never got the beta tester laptop |
| 03:27.05 | DammitJim | oldirty, there is a pre-compiled iso you can download |
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| 03:27.28 | oldirty | orly? i might have to check it out then |
| 03:28.06 | DammitJim | I was asking about chrome vs chromium because I am using chrome 11 on squeeze |
| 03:29.43 | abrotman | isn't it just easier to use opera? :) |
| 03:30.01 | abrotman | wonders how long it will be til someone from opera emails debian again asking why it's not in Debian |
| 03:30.04 | ZitZ | i have an esata pci-e card, is it normal to that I need to have the card inserted when i start the computer in order to have the card work? |
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| 03:34.02 | rypervenche | See, if Chrome 11 can work on Squeeze, then so should Chromium 11. I need to find the way to do it. |
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| 03:39.40 | DammitJim | man, is there no nvidia-kernel-2.6.38-2 in wheezy? |
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| 03:40.31 | asarch | Any Perldoc::Server Debian package/ |
| 03:40.34 | asarch | ? |
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| 03:43.47 | Arrowmaster | DammitJim: there generally never is a prebuilt nvidia-kernel module in testing or sid, use nvidia-kernel-dkms |
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| 03:47.17 | Delf | How come I cannot see the hadrives? |
| 03:47.24 | Delf | harddrives* |
| 03:47.38 | Delf | They don't appear in disk-utility |
| 03:48.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | you haven't plugged them in yet |
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| 03:49.21 | vivanov | where did the virtualbox package from testing go ? |
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| 03:51.05 | Delf | Their plugged in. They appear in bios also I'm booting Debian off the controller card which has 2 more drives connected to it. |
| 03:51.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | vivanov: http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/virtualbox-ose/news/20110515T163913Z.html |
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| 03:53.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | Delf: check dmesg and or syslog |
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| 03:54.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | that might have clues |
| 03:54.09 | roellen | Iceweasel problem. is there a chat channel for Iceweasel? |
| 03:55.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | roellen: you could try here |
| 03:55.08 | roellen | ok |
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| 03:56.39 | roellen | using iceweasel 3.5.19, mozilla/5.0, java-jre 6.24-2. cannot access a site. told to check java version. |
| 03:56.50 | DammitJim | is there no geeqie in wheezy 64bit? |
| 03:56.50 | roellen | also, using squeeze. |
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| 03:57.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | DammitJim: use packages.debian.org to find out |
| 03:57.46 | roellen | Kamping_Kaiser: can u try this site: https://www.singpass-services.gov.sg/basic/redirectLogin.do;jsessionid=SzFPNc3PTlcxZvTKvbWh1VpLKZdQSvx7sv1p9FDLhtpd5kQ670Ly!-1027158330!1738300782!1306294223181 |
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| 03:58.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | roellen: that has a sessionid in it, so its unlikely to work twice |
| 03:58.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | roellen: also, i don't use java in a web browser |
| 03:58.23 | dudz_ | documentation for /etc/network/interfaces what would that be ? |
| 03:58.24 | somiaj | roellen: sounds like a java problem, do you know what version of java the site wants? |
| 03:58.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | roellen: does java work on any other sites? |
| 03:58.35 | dudz_ | to know what everything i put into that file means, is that just i need to readup on iptables or ? |
| 03:59.03 | roellen | Kamping_Kaiser: yes, my set-up works on other site. i can do online banking. |
| 03:59.04 | somiaj | roellen: are you using sun-java6 or an opensource alternative? |
| 03:59.19 | roellen | its sun-java6 from debian. |
| 03:59.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | dudz_: man 5 interfaces ? |
| 03:59.48 | dudz_ | thanks Kamping_Kaiser |
| 03:59.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | dudz_: np |
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| 04:00.56 | somiaj | roellen: there is a 6.25 version, you could see if you can get it from backports. Need to figure out what version of java the site is looking for. |
| 04:02.02 | roellen | somiaj: thks for the info. u and kamping is right. i am now checking what version the site requires. |
| 04:02.09 | somiaj | roellen: you've also double checked with about:plugins that it is indeed the sun java6 being loaded. |
| 04:02.28 | roellen | somiaj: good idea. |
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| 04:05.54 | Delf | the reason the newest kernel didn't boot was due to "legacy" gpu. |
| 04:07.12 | somiaj | Delf: that took out the kernel? (not just your display manager due to wrong module?) |
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| 04:08.48 | somiaj | Delf: check nvidia-legacy |
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| 04:11.01 | roellen | somiaj: about:plugins gives me Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_24. Is this correct? |
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| 04:11.48 | somiaj | roellen: correct |
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| 04:11.54 | roellen | thks. |
| 04:12.19 | roellen | got to check the requirement on the site. |
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| 04:16.50 | rypervenche | Does aptitude remove remove all dependencies if they're not being used by other packages? |
| 04:17.23 | simonlnu | by default yes |
| 04:17.36 | simonlnu | Python1320: everything ok? |
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| 04:22.09 | rypervenche | simonlnu: Thank you. |
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| 04:25.36 | boudiccas | there is probably a simple answer to this although its hard to explain! I've added konqueror to the file opening when you right-click a file, but even when i open a file from konqueror it opens a new window of one. How do i get it to stay focused on open instance and not keep spawning other windows please? This is with KDE 4.4.5 under debian 6 |
| 04:27.03 | simonlnu | probably in konq prefs .. |
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| 04:35.32 | rypervenche | Who in here does not use Debian as their desktop OS? |
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| 04:42.09 | oldirty | rypervenche, i use debian at work, ubuntu here at home... |
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| 04:45.35 | flamingspinach | I just did `diff -rq /path/to/dir1 /path/to/dir2` and one of the lines in the output is the odd statement "File /path/to/dir1/filename is a fifo while file /path/to/dir2/filename is a fifo" |
| 04:45.55 | flamingspinach | to my naive eye that doesn't look like a difference |
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| 04:47.42 | boudiccas | flamingspinach; off by one! :) |
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| 04:48.31 | DammitJim | is there no way to install virtualbox on wheezy? |
| 04:48.40 | flamingspinach | boudiccas: what do you mean? |
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| 04:49.34 | yao_ziyuan | i wonder how a patch can apply to old packages. when a patch maker makes a patch, he also specifies which versions of the package are suitable for the patch? |
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| 04:50.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | DammitJim: backport from sid? |
| 04:50.09 | nkuttler | !tell DammitJim about errors |
| 04:50.24 | flamingspinach | yao_ziyuan: if you mean upstream patches, then yes, the debian package maintainer usually has to do some digging in the code in order to make the patch apply to an old package, I think |
| 04:50.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | nkuttler: its not available in testing atm. http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/virtualbox-ose.html |
| 04:50.35 | nkuttler | oh my |
| 04:50.37 | DammitJim | nkuttler, there is no deb package in the repos |
| 04:50.55 | DammitJim | Kamping_Kaiser, but you are saying it's available as a backport from sid? |
| 04:51.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | flamingspinach: they dont specify a version per se, 'just' depends on if the code has changed |
| 04:51.03 | nkuttler | iirc you can get the non-free version packaged as .deb from oracle as well |
| 04:51.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | DammitJim: you could backport it |
| 04:51.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: ssb |
| 04:51.14 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add ONLY a <deb-src> line for sid to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 04:51.16 | nkuttler | and it's ok in sid |
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| 04:51.58 | DammitJim | Kamping_Kaiser, sounds pretty straight forward |
| 04:52.23 | flamingspinach | Kamping_Kaiser: er, was that meant for me? |
| 04:52.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | flamingspinach: yes |
| 04:52.45 | flamingspinach | 'just'? |
| 04:53.12 | yao_ziyuan | flamingspinach: does 'upstream patch' mean a patch made by the original author to his latest version of software? and debian maintainers must manually check if this patch also applies to an older version of the software? |
| 04:53.24 | flamingspinach | yao_ziyuan: yes, that's what I meant |
| 04:53.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | flamingspinach: i'm not sure what your'e asking |
| 04:53.41 | flamingspinach | not just check if it applies to an older version. Sometimes they will modify the patch to allow it to apply to an older version |
| 04:53.46 | flamingspinach | especially if the patch fixes a security bug |
| 04:54.03 | yao_ziyuan | flamingspinach: so the original author doesn't actually specify which versions of the software deserve the patch? |
| 04:54.04 | flamingspinach | Kamping_Kaiser: I was asking about the output of diff, which is unrelated to yao_ziyuan's question, which I was attempting to answer :P |
| 04:54.06 | taglass | or introduces one /cheapshot |
| 04:54.21 | flamingspinach | yao_ziyuan: the original author doesn't usually write "patches", he just updates his software with a bugfix release |
| 04:54.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | flamingspinach: ah, i didn't see a question from you :/ |
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| 04:55.24 | flamingspinach | Kamping_Kaiser: I was wondering why diff -q said "File x is a fifo while file y is a fifo" |
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| 04:55.48 | flamingspinach | I'm trying to do diff on those two files now without the -q switch, but it seems to just be sitting there |
| 04:56.01 | yao_ziyuan | flamingspinach: so whoever makes a patch, does the patch maker also specify which versions of the source code deserve the patch? |
| 04:56.02 | flamingspinach | stat reports it as a "fifo" rather than a "regular file" |
| 04:56.23 | flamingspinach | perhaps it's some sort of stream waiting for input? this is amounted ntfs volume, I wasn't aware ntfs had weird files like that |
| 04:56.53 | flamingspinach | yao_ziyuan: usually yes, and if they don't, it's assumed to be the latest version, or if development repositories exist, even the head of those repositories |
| 04:57.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | yao_ziyuan: is this your actual question , or are you leading up to something else? |
| 04:57.15 | flamingspinach | yeah, I'm wondering that too... |
| 04:57.23 | flamingspinach | s/amounted/a mounted/ |
| 04:57.39 | yao_ziyuan | Kamping_Kaiser, flamingspinach: i just want to learn about how patches work |
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| 04:58.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | yao_ziyuan: man patch ;man diff; also check around the web, i found a bunch of good resources on it last week |
| 04:58.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | i don't have the web browser open or i'd link you :/ |
| 04:59.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | flamingspinach: i thought diff had an option to deal with specialf iles, but seems not. i'm out of ideas :/ |
| 04:59.14 | flamingspinach | yao_ziyuan: also a lot of development is done using version control systems these days, like git/mercurial/bazaar/darcs/svn/cvs/whatever, so patches are sometimes done by so-called "pull requests" like you see on github (if you've ever wandered around there) |
| 04:59.38 | flamingspinach | in which case the info about what version of the code to apply it to is usually included in the version control system's implementation of changeset differences |
| 05:00.21 | flamingspinach | Kamping_Kaiser: oh well, doesn't really matter. Just wondered how x and y both being fifos constituted a difference between x and y that diff felt a need to report :P |
| 05:00.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | flamingspinach: probably secret code for 'i dont handle filfos' ;) |
| 05:00.55 | flamingspinach | probably, lol |
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| 05:02.49 | flamingspinach | Kamping_Kaiser: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-utils/2008-11/msg00016.html google is my friend, I guess... |
| 05:03.32 | rypervenche | flamingspinach: duckduckgo is your friend :) |
| 05:03.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | flamingspinach: i just looked at teh source :p |
| 05:04.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | flamingspinach: http://paste.debian.net/117900/ still includes the tabs and line ends, sorry |
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| 05:04.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | forgot to turn off :set list before pasting |
| 05:04.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | badly indented code is something i've seen a lot of recently :/ |
| 05:04.51 | flamingspinach | lol, did you use x selection!? :P |
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| 05:05.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm? |
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| 05:07.00 | flamingspinach | 'V (select) "*y:!xclip -o | pastebinit<CR>' or something like that should work :P |
| 05:07.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | oh right. nah, i used mouse technology |
| 05:10.26 | flamingspinach | rypervenche: interesting |
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| 05:40.03 | billy_ | s |
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| 05:42.35 | MarvinTheMartian | hi, I used Debian long ago starting with -> debian-30r2-i386-binary-*.iso |
| 05:42.43 | MarvinTheMartian | and it was quite messy |
| 05:42.49 | MarvinTheMartian | but mostly worked |
| 05:42.57 | MarvinTheMartian | except for apt |
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| 05:43.18 | MarvinTheMartian | is Debian nowadays very much better than it was back then ? |
| 05:44.07 | nvz | thats all a matter of opinion |
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| 05:48.11 | nevyn | it's bigger. |
| 05:48.15 | buhman | I rebooted for the first time in a few days, and now my mouse and keyboard seem to be intermittently freezing (wheezy) |
| 05:48.22 | buhman | is this a known problem? |
| 05:49.04 | nevyn | buhman: what verssion of udev do you have installed? |
| 05:49.20 | buhman | 167-3 |
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| 05:50.26 | nevyn | so that's fine and not the problem. |
| 05:50.35 | ggoes | Any laptop Openbox users here? I'm wondering if I'm the only one whose screen isn't locking after a suspend. |
| 05:51.26 | buhman | nevyn: I don't think I've updated udev since installation, and I did have to delete /run before udev operated properly |
| 05:51.32 | buhman | (after installation) |
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| 05:52.35 | bk | quick question, you all arent getting rid of runlevels and inittab anytime soon are you? |
| 05:52.50 | okraits | ggoes: are you sure that openbox should lock the screen? |
| 05:52.50 | lotutu | hello, I got a problem with nfs, Starting NFS common utilities: statd failed! |
| 05:53.15 | nevyn | bk: I'm thinking about trying systemd on my laptop |
| 05:53.22 | flamingspinach | buhman: are you on a laptop? |
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| 05:53.49 | flamingspinach | actually never mind |
| 05:53.54 | bk | nevyn: well i would hope that you all dont just up and change it without any docs on it |
| 05:54.14 | lotutu | I deleted the auto lo in /etc/network/interface several days ago , does this has anything to do with the nfs ? |
| 05:54.14 | bk | fedora failed to put in a mock inittab before changing |
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| 05:54.15 | nevyn | bk: ah. we are not debian developers nessicarilly. |
| 05:54.22 | ggoes | okraits: I think it used to. I'm running gnome-power-manager, so shouldn't it lock and suspend when the lid is closed? |
| 05:54.22 | bk | well i know that |
| 05:54.30 | bk | but you catch my drift |
| 05:54.39 | bk | fedora keeps changing stuff and its making me mad |
| 05:54.43 | nevyn | bk: if/when debian switches to systemd it'll be in the manual of the stable release |
| 05:54.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | lotutu: ... why? |
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| 05:54.58 | bk | nevyn: good |
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| 05:55.15 | bk | i use both |
| 05:55.20 | nevyn | bk: if you're running wheezy/sid it will be discussed on debian-devel but may not get documented in a manual before it happens |
| 05:55.38 | bk | but i dont have time to relearn linux just because fedora loves to change things |
| 05:55.55 | fredden | ah, there's the announcement. :) |
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| 05:56.05 | lotutu | Kamping_Kaiser: my debian says "starting nfs utilities statd " when boot, and waste me a lot of time |
| 05:56.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | lotutu: why did you remove lo? |
| 05:56.44 | lotutu | Kamping_Kaiser: I thought auto eth0 is enough |
| 05:57.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | lotutu: '...' |
| 05:57.25 | lotutu | Kamping_Kaiser: how can I fix it ? |
| 05:58.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | lotutu: put it back |
| 05:59.07 | lotutu | Kamping_Kaiser: I just add auto lo iface lo inet loopback and then run #/etc/init.d/networking restart, however it didn't work |
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| 05:59.30 | okraits | ggoes: openbox is merely a window manager so i think the functionality you mean is provided by some gnome component |
| 05:59.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | lotutu: it? restart whatever it is |
| 05:59.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | i have to go, bbl |
| 05:59.59 | lotutu | Kamping_Kaiser: bye, thanks |
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| 06:00.44 | nevyn | bk: practices change service blah start/stop/reload has been the prefered ui over /etc/init.d/blah for some time (years?) |
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| 06:01.57 | bk | nevyn: im use to both, but service has been a help |
| 06:02.04 | bk | preferred im not sure |
| 06:02.17 | ggoes | okraits: Ah! I got it working. The trick was unsetting use_screensaver_settings in gnome-power-manager's settings. Openbox doesn't start gnome-screensaver, so it gets confused when suspending. It works now. |
| 06:02.35 | nvz | I still like /etc/init.d/ because I can tab complete if I'm not sure what the service is called |
| 06:02.46 | nevyn | bk: the only constant is change ;) |
| 06:02.55 | bk | ugh |
| 06:03.04 | bk | thats the 3rd time ive heard that in the past hour |
| 06:03.06 | bk | lol |
| 06:03.10 | nvz | heh |
| 06:03.13 | nvz | sleeps |
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| 06:08.32 | Gryllida | mysql install problem http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1234009 |
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| 06:20.47 | boudiccas | there is probably a simple answer to this although its hard to explain! I've added konqueror to the file opening when you right-click a file, but even when i open a file from konqueror it opens a new window of one. How do i get it to stay focused on open instance and not keep spawning other windows please? This is with KDE 4.4.5 under debian 6 |
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| 06:22.58 | MarvinTheMartian | what I mean, is stuff normally behaving wierd in debian, or has the stability increased greatly from then ? |
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| 06:26.46 | beware | i (re)installed linux-image, and it failed on update-grub (i don't use grub, i use lilo), and now it has installation status iF (failed config). is this going to give problems? |
| 06:27.00 | beware | it *did* install the kernel image and initrd in /boot |
| 06:27.09 | beware | it also updated lilo |
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| 06:27.55 | Lovecraft | Anyone else using the Intel HD audio stuff and getting very very low volume? |
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| 06:34.06 | streuner | beware: hm, why not just install grub and remove lilo, after the installation, just remove grub and reinstall lilo? |
| 06:34.38 | beware | hm... i guess i *could* do that |
| 06:34.40 | streuner | beware: i had the same problem (lilo and grub installed) |
| 06:34.44 | beware | it's an ugly way to fail however |
| 06:34.52 | streuner | removing lilo helped then |
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| 06:35.08 | streuner | beware: just fix the script then :-P |
| 06:35.32 | beware | if it fails on grub not being there, then it should be a dependency |
| 06:35.39 | beware | if it's not a dependency, it should not fail on using it |
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| 06:36.15 | streuner | beware: you are using sid, right? |
| 06:36.24 | beware | no, lenny |
| 06:36.31 | beware | im planning to upgrade to squeeze |
| 06:36.31 | streuner | haha |
| 06:36.37 | beware | and to prepare for that, i want to use a distro kernel |
| 06:36.40 | beware | (im using a custom kernel atm) |
| 06:36.54 | beware | because experiment tells me that if i use a custom kernel, it won't come back after a reboot |
| 06:36.55 | streuner | .oO |
| 06:37.18 | streuner | forget what iam told you then |
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| 06:38.11 | beware | well, it has status "ii" now |
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| 06:38.12 | beware | so it did work |
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| 06:38.40 | streuner | hm, that explains a lot |
| 06:39.23 | beware | oh? |
| 06:39.41 | beware | ok, to explain, i installed grub and did a dpkg-reconfigure on the linux-image of choice |
| 06:39.49 | beware | and now removed grub |
| 06:39.51 | streuner | sure |
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| 06:48.16 | niklaswe | morning |
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| 06:51.43 | Guest2971 | how to use lvm2 snapshot restore ï¼ |
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| 06:54.37 | RLa | how to do minimal kde install that does not contains akonadi, mysql and lot of other weird things that my desktop does not need? |
| 06:54.49 | RLa | kde-core has all these dependencies |
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| 07:03.58 | streuner | !install kde |
| 07:03.58 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, the 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > KDE > Install". See also <KDE>. |
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| 07:06.03 | iluminator101 | RLa, there is nothing minimal about KDE |
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| 07:07.54 | RLa | iluminator101, i want file browser and desktop but not fancy search systems etc. |
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| 07:09.04 | iluminator101 | RLa, I am not an expert on KDE, I only use gnome, gnome/openbox on my laptop |
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| 07:10.07 | RLa | i switched from kde to xfce lately but it has too many bugs and inconsistencies in desktop and file browser |
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| 07:10.30 | RLa | like copy-paste not using full file paths |
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| 07:11.00 | RLa | also, drag-and-drop sometimes copies file, sometimes cuts |
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| 07:11.30 | iluminator101 | RLa, I never used xfce, i used lxde, but it was not a full desktop, gnome have never given me any problems |
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| 07:11.55 | RLa | i guess it mostly depends on file manager too |
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| 07:13.17 | afuentes | I add a group to my user with #adduser kusanagi testgroup but when I type $groups it does not show up... anybody know whats going on? |
| 07:14.42 | flamingspinach | afuentes: you need to log out and log in in order for groups to take effect |
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| 07:14.56 | flamingspinach | by the way, I hope you didn't type the # because that denotes a comment |
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| 07:15.37 | afuentes | flamingspinach, no, it just showed i was typing as root |
| 07:15.43 | flamingspinach | k |
| 07:16.13 | afuentes | flamingspinach, I have opened a terminal, do i have close that terminal to logout? |
| 07:16.22 | flamingspinach | no, you have to totally log out of the system |
| 07:16.29 | flamingspinach | that includes closing your X session if any |
| 07:17.08 | afuentes | :s my god |
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| 07:17.24 | afuentes | thanks flamingspinach |
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| 07:24.34 | arvind_khadri | hi, squeeze uses upstart right? |
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| 07:39.36 | ma3x | hi |
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| 07:40.01 | boudiccas | there is probably a simple answer to this although its hard to explain! I've added konqueror to the file opening when you right-click a file, but even when i open a file from konqueror it opens a new window of one. How do i get it to stay focused on open instance and not keep spawning other windows please? This is with KDE 4.4.5 under debian 6 |
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| 07:40.45 | ma3x | when i boot with different live cds, the partition is sometimes recognized as hda sometimes as sda ... what file should i edit so i can boot correctly? |
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| 07:41.02 | ma3x | i tried mkinitramfs -r /dev/hda1 but that didn't help |
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| 07:43.54 | vlt | Hello. I want to set a file's group to always the same group as the directory's in which the file is created. How can I achieve this? |
| 07:43.58 | D4rKr0W | question: how does one emulate a windows software that has a gui part without x server? is there any way to install wine without x? I've read about a certain wine "daemon", is there something like that on debian? |
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| 07:45.19 | D4rKr0W | i was looking into emulating a windows gameserver application, but the devs put a graphical console on it :( |
| 07:45.20 | KBme | you will need an X server, whether you connect to it over network or whetever is up to you though |
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| 08:28.50 | Dewi | how do I tell which display driver I am using in X? |
| 08:30.46 | vtts | Dewi, check the log |
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| 08:33.03 | tuxcrafter | this night linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 |
| 08:33.08 | tuxcrafter | got a security update |
| 08:33.40 | tuxcrafter | i got Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot "true"; |
| 08:33.54 | tuxcrafter | but /var/run/reboot-required was not set |
| 08:34.10 | tuxcrafter | is it normal for a kernel security update to not need a reboot> |
| 08:34.41 | tuxcrafter | or is a reboot only done when a conflicting situations accures |
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| 08:36.20 | CompWizrd | isn't /var/run/reboot-required a ubuntu thing? |
| 08:36.43 | tuxcrafter | i hope not (i am running 6.0.1 |
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| 08:42.11 | lkthomas | guys, I try to google how to config receiver of rsyslog, but no docs at all |
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| 08:44.50 | jelly | lkthomas: have you installed rsyslog-doc? |
| 08:45.11 | jelly | lkthomas: or just visit the upstream web |
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| 08:51.24 | lkthomas | jelly, apache server isrunning syslog |
| 08:51.30 | lkthomas | while debian syslog server is using rsyslog |
| 08:51.37 | lkthomas | not sure how is it gettign connect |
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| 08:53.26 | tuxcrafter | what was that name again of that tool you can use to type in one command and execute it on a bunch of othter machines over ssh automaticly |
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| 08:54.06 | SorryUser | hey, I'm trying to set iptables rules for Tor, and I'm using --uid-owner debian-tor. If I run init.d/tor as user debian-tor the rules work, but if I don't it they don't, inspite of the uid being the same in both cases according to ps |
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| 08:54.48 | SorryUser | I'm having troubles running tor as user debian-tor on startup, so what alternatives do I have? |
| 08:55.49 | v_v | SorryUser: is tor alive ? |
| 08:56.17 | SorryUser | yes |
| 08:56.26 | SorryUser | (I even check the log file) |
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| 08:57.22 | SorryUser | as far as I can see anyways |
| 08:57.25 | v_v | oh. i mean, it's a long time i haven't get online with tor. it's blocked by my isp or somthing |
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| 08:58.40 | v_v | SorryUser: what's the trouble running tor as debian-tor ? |
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| 08:59.54 | v_v | eh.. sorry, i don't understand the problem. |
| 09:00.17 | SorryUser | isn't that strange |
| 09:01.03 | SorryUser | well, in Debian 5 I just had a start up script that did su debian-tor -c `/etc/init.d/tor $1`, but in debian 6 it did not |
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| 09:01.33 | SorryUser | it asked for debian-tor's password on startup, which is a real drag |
| 09:02.23 | SorryUser | then I noticed the the uid is the same in both cases (103 in debian 6 and 102 in 5), so it's probably a lot simpler to just figure out why iptables won't work |
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| 09:16.47 | kuene | there is an update of the package linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64 that is not mentioned in debian Security Information. how can I find out what has changed? because the same package for 686 systems does not get an upgrade. |
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| 09:17.01 | DotHack | ey M00z |
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| 09:32.46 | eliasson | Hi! We're running a Active Directory domain within our office. Is it possible to have OpenSSH authenticate users using LDAP and also create their home directories etc if they havn't been created upon 1st login? |
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| 09:38.50 | Woet | how would I manipulate a DHCP server? |
| 09:38.56 | Woet | e.g, add a lease manually or remove a lease |
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| 09:38.59 | jelly | eliasson: it's definitely possible, but the details can be tricky. there's pam_mkhomedir in libpam-modules package, and a number of ways to do ldap authentication, the simplest possibly being libpam-ldap. |
| 09:39.34 | jelly | eliasson: you're probably going to use something involving nss instead of libpam-ldap. |
| 09:40.03 | jelly | eliasson: try asking for details on debian-enterprise mailing list, or a ldap related one |
| 09:40.24 | eliasson | jelly: Thanks for that. Appricate it. |
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| 09:50.59 | D4rKr0W | anyone has a link to the changelog for linux-2.6_2.6.32-34 ? |
| 09:51.02 | LiohAu | i added a new mime type in /etc/mime.types but apache doesn't continue to serve the file as binary, is there a cache for mime types to refresh ? |
| 09:51.17 | D4rKr0W | i'm searching for it but i ended up here :P |
| 09:51.17 | D4rKr0W | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.32-34squeeze1/changelog |
| 09:51.23 | LiohAu | -"doesn't" |
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| 09:52.35 | dawud | hello, can someone from the US (or outside Europe, FWIW) confirm both gnu.org and fsf.org are down? TIA |
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| 09:52.51 | LiohAu | D4rKr0W: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.32-34/changelog.txt ? |
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| 09:54.56 | KBme | dunno if this is outside eu or not, but it looks bad: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/fsf.org |
| 09:55.05 | D4rKr0W | thanks LiohAu |
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| 09:56.35 | dawud | KBme: thanks |
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| 09:59.18 | mOxim | how to execute terminal in shell script to run python script in that terminal? |
| 09:59.47 | joltcan | mOxim: $(python stuff-to-run.py)? |
| 09:59.59 | KBme | wa? |
| 10:00.32 | KBme | that's probably not a good idea |
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| 10:00.49 | KBme | mOxim, what terminal program? |
| 10:00.59 | mOxim | xfce4-terminal |
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| 10:01.18 | joltcan | I guess I missunderstood |
| 10:01.20 | nkuttler | sounds like a question for man xfce4-terminal |
| 10:01.24 | KBme | yep |
| 10:02.00 | KBme | but you can't pass arguments to xfce4-terminal, so you can't |
| 10:02.04 | KBme | i think |
| 10:03.04 | mOxim | xfce4-terminal -x python file.py |
| 10:03.08 | mOxim | :) |
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| 10:03.11 | boudiccas | there is probably a simple answer to this although its hard to explain! I've added konqueror to the file opening when you right-click a file, but even when i open a file from konqueror it opens a new window of one. How do i get it to stay focused on open instance and not keep spawning other windows please? This is with KDE 4.4.5 under debian 6 |
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| 10:04.37 | nkuttler | boudiccas: sounds like a question for man konqueror |
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| 10:06.37 | dutchfish | boudiccas, it opens 'inline' only files asociated with konquerer, ie like .html. It can't handle others, so it will spawn the likely candidate for it along on others. |
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| 10:18.24 | kotique | finally, debian switched to numbers in versions, not names |
| 10:19.12 | MrMind | hmm, updatade my debian stable & got a kernel failure.... is this bad? |
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| 10:19.29 | kotique | no, it's normal |
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| 10:20.03 | MrMind | kotique: okey, great... become really worry for a while... |
| 10:20.11 | MrMind | should i just reboot? |
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| 10:22.14 | kotique | yep, reboot and install windows vista |
| 10:22.26 | SlayerXP | windows 7, please. |
| 10:22.44 | kotique | vista is the apogee of windows development |
| 10:22.52 | MrMind | funny ;) |
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| 10:23.09 | kotique | i'm sure the main architect of vista got an ugly wife |
| 10:23.44 | kotique | and instead of solving the problem in manner hans reiser did, he just went to work and did windows vista |
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| 10:29.01 | bullgard4 | '~$ aptitude why [packetname]' prints a list of packetnames, each packaetname is prepended by "i ", "i A" or "p ". Does this stand for »installed«, »installed automatically« or »purged«, respectively? |
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| 10:29.49 | disaster123 | does anybody know why i've todo a networking restart instead of just ifup -a to bring up an IPV6 address |
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| 10:31.55 | babilen | bullgard4: yes |
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| 10:34.14 | babilen | disaster123: If you take a look at the init script you'll see that restart does nothing else than running "ifdown -a --exclude=lo ; ifup -a --exclude=lo" |
| 10:34.38 | babilen | disaster123: Which is why I have no idea why you observe that particular behaviour. :-\ |
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| 10:36.29 | babilen | disaster123: Ok, one notable difference is the call to process_options ... You might want to comment that and you should see the same behaviour with "service networking restart" -- Source the options as done in the script and try again manually |
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| 10:38.46 | disaster123 | mhm OK will check that again ;-) |
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| 10:39.25 | disaster123 | mhm also a ifup -a does not bring up any ipv6 interfaces on ethX. I've todo networking restart all the time ;-( |
| 10:40.40 | babilen | disaster123: Read the script, you'll see that there is almost no magic :) |
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| 10:41.01 | bullgard4 | babilen: Thank you very much for your help. |
| 10:41.10 | disaster123 | OK will do it. Do you know if it is possible to assign a complete /120 to a debian System without having to configure each address? |
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| 10:42.15 | babilen | never had the need :-\ |
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| 10:47.06 | Bushmills | disaster123: will something like for i in {1..120}; do echo ip addr add 10.0.0..$i/32 dev eth0; done do? |
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| 10:49.22 | disaster123 | Bushmills: for sure it will but that's really bad. I know that other distros offer a way to just specify addressrange dc01::1/120 |
| 10:49.33 | disaster123 | and it will assign all IPs from /120 |
| 10:49.46 | disaster123 | also in ifconfig outout you just see this one liner instead of 4000 lines |
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| 10:55.14 | quag7 | Folks, I have a .ko file I downloaded from elsewhere that I'd like to automatically load as a kernel module (it is a network driver). What is the best way to do this? I see various references to module-assistant, but this doesn't seem to handle just a single standalone, precompiled file as far as I can tell (or maybe it does and I'm not understanding it). |
| 10:57.25 | KBme | quag7, don't. |
| 10:58.30 | quag7 | Well, if you have an alternate suggestion as to the best way to deal with this situation... |
| 10:58.33 | quag7 | Because my option is just not to have networking. |
| 10:58.37 | quag7 | which is not an option. |
| 10:58.40 | KBme | quag7, what network driver? |
| 10:58.56 | KBme | it's a closed driver? where di you download it from? |
| 10:59.02 | quag7 | This is for the Intel 82579V gigabit driver, which seems to use the e1000e driver |
| 10:59.07 | kotique | i['m lost on your website |
| 10:59.14 | kotique | how do i install debian over pxe? |
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| 10:59.30 | kotique | i need very tiny image to tftp during pxe boot off |
| 10:59.43 | kotique | where's that image? basiacally, 10-20mb initrd |
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| 11:00.04 | quag7 | I downloaded the driver from a blog entry I found on "how to get networking going on wheezy" |
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| 11:00.08 | kotique | alrighty http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ |
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| 11:01.16 | KBme | quag7, so add it in /lib/modules/$kernelversion/kernel/net, run depmod -ae and then add the module to /etc/modules |
| 11:01.24 | quag7 | The issue seems to be that the version in the standard wheezy kernel is too old. |
| 11:01.27 | quag7 | ok, giving that a shot now |
| 11:01.40 | KBme | quag7, I think this will suit you better probably http://perfect-co.de/2011/04/intel-82579v-gigabit-ethernet-driver-for-debian-squeeze/ |
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| 11:01.57 | KBme | but it's a better idea to compile the module for yourself |
| 11:02.05 | quag7 | Thats where I downloaed it from - that URL |
| 11:02.21 | KBme | so that's not wheezy, it's squeeze |
| 11:02.37 | quag7 | er, squeeze, sorry |
| 11:02.38 | KBme | wheezy isn't even debian |
| 11:02.41 | quag7 | yeah |
| 11:02.44 | quag7 | I am just really tired. |
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| 11:02.49 | KBme | it's some ancient ubuntu |
| 11:02.50 | quag7 | it is like 4am here |
| 11:02.50 | KBme | ok ⺠|
| 11:02.52 | quag7 | yeah |
| 11:02.54 | quag7 | my bad |
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| 11:03.13 | KBme | quag7, in any case, it's always better to compile for yourself. |
| 11:04.02 | KBme | if there is something malicious in it it'll get access to ring0 which you really don't want |
| 11:04.41 | quag7 | Yep; will make that my first priority once I get the tools installed to compile. |
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| 11:04.49 | quag7 | Thanks; rebooting for now to see if this will temporarily do the trick |
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| 11:20.17 | quag7 | Well that went badly, but then I just compiled it myself and here I am. |
| 11:20.18 | quag7 | Hooray |
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| 11:22.42 | Guest2971 | can't expand lv snapshot target support missing from kernel |
| 11:23.43 | Bop | anyone with issues with mail-notification applet with gmail ? from time to time , mail-notification loses password and keeps me asking from 5 to 5 minutes |
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| 11:28.55 | Nephro | hello, trying to install eclipse for c++ development in deb, googled that I need the eclipse-cdt package, but such isn't found in the repositories. Any hints? |
| 11:29.30 | abrotman | in which version of Debian? |
| 11:29.39 | Nephro | newest, just installed it |
| 11:29.44 | abrotman | squeeze? |
| 11:30.23 | Nephro | 6.0.1a |
| 11:30.51 | jelly | ,versions eclipse-cdt |
| 11:30.52 | judd | Package eclipse-cdt on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 6.0.2-1~bpo60+1; sid: 6.0.2-1; wheezy: 6.0.2-1 |
| 11:31.05 | jelly | dpkg, tell Nephro about bdo |
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| 11:31.34 | Nephro | thank you, jelly |
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| 11:36.16 | disaster123 | Anybidy here who knows how to use DHCP Server with ipv6 on Debian? |
| 11:36.21 | disaster123 | i can't find any good howto |
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| 11:42.13 | abrotman | disaster123: to get or give? |
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| 11:45.36 | disaster123 | abrotman: give - but i think it would be generally better to use radvd? right? |
| 11:46.42 | abrotman | never used the latter |
| 11:46.55 | disaster123 | abrotman: what do you use? |
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| 11:50.54 | lapsusbrutus | !libdvdcss.so.2 |
| 11:53.32 | abrotman | lapsusbrutus: what are you looking for? you generally don't need that anymore. If you really do, try debian-multimedia.org |
| 11:53.43 | abrotman | disaster123: there's nothing in /usr/share/doc/ ? |
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| 11:56.02 | disaster123 | abrotman: sorry? Just wanted to know what you'e using if you do not use radvd? |
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| 11:56.37 | abrotman | disaster123: i don't .. you're asking for docs for getting isc-dhcp-server to give out ipv6 addresses? did you look in /usr/share/doc/ .. lots of good docs in there |
| 11:57.23 | disaster123 | abrotman: do i didn't sorry. But i think radvd is the right way to go - service is now running was pretty easy. Now i just have to find out how to tell the clients to get one |
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| 12:04.26 | Amnesia | question |
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| 12:05.05 | Amnesia | where's the colourfile located in debian? |
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| 12:05.46 | Amnesia | since my syntax hightlighting is different as root and normal user |
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| 12:06.19 | nevyn | Amnesia: syntax highlighting in vim or ls? |
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| 12:08.02 | Amnesia | syntax highlighting in vm |
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| 12:08.27 | Amnesia | vim* |
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| 12:09.35 | xro | Hi, to apply a patch in the current directory and in the subdictory i have to do "patch < xxx.patch" right? or should i specify p1? |
| 12:11.22 | Amnesia | nevyn: got any idea? |
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| 12:12.36 | babilen | Amnesia: Just set "colorscheme" to whatever you want it to be in root's .vimrc too (I recommend "colorscheme molokai" but you might have different preferences) |
| 12:12.59 | Amnesia | where's the default systemwide colorscheme located? |
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| 12:14.02 | babilen | Amnesia: Why? Do you want to change it? (I guess that would be a bad idea) -- Just configure it for all applicable users. But you are looking for /usr/share/vim/vim??/colors/default.vim |
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| 12:15.45 | nevyn | Amnesia: :set bg=dark ? |
| 12:17.57 | Amnesia | babilen: I like the color highlighting more of my root account |
| 12:18.43 | babilen | Amnesia: run ":colorscheme" to see which colourscheme is in use |
| 12:19.01 | nevyn | Amnesia: I suspect it's just a wrongly set bg |
| 12:19.07 | Amnesia | babilen: both "default" |
| 12:19.22 | abrotman | you could use uhm .. crap, i forget, and see which files your vim loads |
| 12:19.24 | nevyn | Amnesia: :bg |
| 12:19.30 | nevyn | on both |
| 12:19.34 | babilen | Amnesia: nevyn is on the right track in that case :) |
| 12:19.43 | Amnesia | not an editor command |
| 12:19.58 | babilen | Amnesia: ":set bg" |
| 12:20.06 | nevyn | hrm |
| 12:20.21 | Amnesia | ah |
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| 12:20.38 | nevyn | one set to light other to dark? |
| 12:20.40 | Amnesia | background = light & background = dark |
| 12:20.46 | Amnesia | yep |
| 12:20.51 | Amnesia | I like the light one more |
| 12:21.02 | nevyn | depends what your background is. |
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| 12:21.03 | babilen | Amnesia: ":set bg=dark" or ":set bg=light" |
| 12:21.21 | nevyn | I prefer dark but then I'm a console colors type. |
| 12:21.29 | Amnesia | where's it set, since I havent got anything in my vimrc about bg |
| 12:21.35 | nevyn | black text on white background is evil. |
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| 12:22.42 | guiledazimba | how the file /etc/apt/sources.list should be write? help Debian 6.0.1 |
| 12:23.12 | babilen | nevyn: There are so many other nice colourschemes such as molokai, solarized, xoria256, wombat256, zenburn, mustang, ... and many many others. I would have a look at some of them. :) |
| 12:23.14 | abrotman | !tell guiledazimba about squeeze sources.list |
| 12:23.32 | babilen | nevyn, Amnesia: ENICK, sorry :) |
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| 12:23.41 | nevyn | :) |
| 12:23.49 | nevyn | may look at them too. but. |
| 12:23.55 | babilen | heh |
| 12:24.07 | Amnesia | babilen: where are they defined? |
| 12:24.12 | Amnesia | per user I guess |
| 12:25.16 | babilen | Amnesia: You set them in your ~/.vimrc ("colorscheme foo") |
| 12:25.30 | Amnesia | I know I can:p |
| 12:25.41 | Amnesia | but I want to know where its set atm |
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| 12:26.04 | Amnesia | since I havent got anything in vimrc atm, and it is different |
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| 12:26.27 | babilen | Amnesia: It is the default -- also see /etc/vim/vimrc |
| 12:26.33 | SPF | Amnesia: I got color torte in my .vimrc, maybe you like it? |
| 12:26.36 | babilen | Amnesia: No idea why it differs |
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| 12:26.54 | Amnesia | wtf |
| 12:27.18 | Amnesia | I;ve got it in /usr/local/stow/vim73:) |
| 12:27.23 | Amnesia | but the vimrc is in ~/ |
| 12:27.42 | babilen | Amnesia: Why did you install vim manually? |
| 12:28.06 | Amnesia | hm portability:) |
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| 12:29.39 | babilen | well, a ssb (/msg dpkg ssb) from sid would have done the job as well. But do whatever you are happy with. |
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| 12:30.44 | Amnesia | strange that it differs.. |
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| 12:31.23 | abrotman | it is? |
| 12:31.33 | Amnesia | abrotman: you know the meaning? |
| 12:31.46 | abrotman | Amnesia: there's a command in vim to see which files it loads to get the config |
| 12:32.09 | Amnesia | ah what's it called? |
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| 12:33.06 | Amnesia | ugh got to go gome, brb |
| 12:33.41 | disaster123 | is anybody here using radvd? It's running fine and the systems do get IPv6 IPs but it advertises the wrong default route ip / is sending from the wrong ip |
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| 12:34.54 | joe6 | abrotman, set verbose, ithink |
| 12:35.15 | abrotman | no |
| 12:35.15 | justin_ | disaster123: do you have two systems sending router advertisements? |
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| 12:35.27 | babilen | Amnesia: Are you sure that both use the same vim and the same configuration files? Could you try "which vim" and "vim -u NONE --noplugin" as both users |
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| 12:35.34 | babilen | gah! |
| 12:35.41 | abrotman | joe6: amnheleft! :scriptnames |
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| 12:37.08 | disaster123 | justin_: no it is just one. But the system who is running radvd has inet6 addr: fe80::218:51ff:fea8:5f42/64 Scope:Link and inet6 addr: fc00:100::1/64 Scope:Global. fe80:: ...is a link local address. But radvd is sending from this address. So the clients are setting this link local adress as default route. |
| 12:37.30 | disaster123 | justin_: shouldn't radvd send from the Scope: Global address? |
| 12:38.37 | justin_ | disaster123: sounds like you configured radvd wrong? |
| 12:39.13 | disaster123 | justin_: can't imagine what's wrong here: interface eth3 |
| 12:39.15 | disaster123 | { |
| 12:39.16 | disaster123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.18 | disaster123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.19 | disaster123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.21 | disaster123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.22 | disaster123 | }; |
| 12:40.30 | justin_ | disaster123: http://paste.debian.net/117925/ |
| 12:40.35 | justin_ | disaster123: that's my radvd.conf on openwrt |
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| 12:43.29 | disaster123 | justin_: Thanks - but same result. radvdump shows ... based on Router Advertisement from fe80::218:51ff:fe95:9da7 ... and then the route -6 -n on client shows: ::/0 fe80::218:51ff:fe95:9da7 UGDAe 1024 0 2 eth1. Which is the result that the advertisement was sent from fe80::218:51ff:fe95:9da7. |
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| 12:45.44 | Crypticfortune | Very weird problem. So we have nss/pam set to do authentication with ldap, and this works fine for normal gdm, login, sudo, etc, but the "su" command fails with "initgroups: Operation not permitted" iff ldap is set to run over SSL....any ideas? |
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| 12:46.29 | Crypticfortune | the fact that it only fails when using SSL makes it very hard to peak on what's going on with wireshark or strace =/ |
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| 12:47.50 | Crypticfortune | tls_checkpeer can be off and it still fails, so it's not a cert issue... =/ |
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| 12:48.45 | disaster123 | justin_ could you have a look which default routes you have? |
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| 12:49.26 | Crypticfortune | This worked in lenny, but only broke in squeeze.... |
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| 12:53.28 | justin_ | disaster123: it seems to be using the fe80 address, though things work just fine. *shrug* |
| 12:54.54 | disaster123 | justin_: ah OK so it seems to be normal to use the link local... mhm strange. So you know how this works then? In the IPv4 world this wouldn't work at all |
| 12:57.04 | justin_ | disaster123: ipv6 is weird |
| 12:58.54 | disaster123 | justin_: seems to be ;-) Do you know how to get DNS working? Do i need a IPv6 nameserver to send AAAA queries? |
| 12:59.32 | justin_ | disaster123: no |
| 12:59.38 | justin_ | disaster123: can you get to ipv6.google.com? |
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| 13:01.16 | disaster123 | justin_: ah OK i thought www.google.com has already an IPv6 tag. |
| 13:01.42 | disaster123 | justin_ ipv6.google.com seems to work ;-) thanks. Just need to know why link local addresses get advertised and why this works ;-) |
| 13:03.50 | justin_ | disaster123: might be by design, link local addresses are an important part of ipv6 |
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| 13:05.32 | disaster123 | justin_: yes but in my documentation it tells me link local addresses do not need to be unique outside of that link. How the hell could my client work with a default of a link local and two other systems with the same link local which is my def. gw |
| 13:06.23 | justin_ | disaster123: I doubt you will find two systems near each other with the same link local address. I believe that is impossible |
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| 13:09.02 | disaster123 | justin_: justin right but i think such a protocoll should be safe also theoretical |
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| 13:18.23 | djszapi | Hi! can anybody show me the postrm file of the cups debian package, please ? |
| 13:18.48 | djszapi | I am not on debian right now |
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| 13:19.26 | deconvolution | djszapi, package.debian.org ? |
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| 13:19.56 | deconvolution | packages.debian.org |
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| 13:20.28 | djszapi | and then what ? |
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| 13:20.42 | themill | djszapi: exactly what Ganneff told you in #d-mentors |
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| 13:20.58 | themill | dpkg: tell djszapi about multiple ask |
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| 13:21.08 | zhanshime | my debian testing have a problem |
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| 13:22.10 | MrFrood | zhanshime: #debian-next( on oftc |
| 13:22.22 | MrFrood | *#debian-next |
| 13:22.49 | zhanshime | there are sounds of explosionwhen i play flash |
| 13:24.00 | Big_Brother | where do i find drivers for my brother HL-2140 for squeeze? |
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| 13:24.22 | MrFrood | zhanshime: testing and unstable are supported in #debian-next over on the oftc server |
| 13:24.37 | zhanshime | thankyou |
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| 13:27.21 | surf | hi I've been trying for a bit to add subtitles to a ogv file but it seems a bit tricky. I want to hard-copy them inside the video. mencoder does the job but it cuts my audio stream. Any tools I can try to use? avidemux does not eat my ogv file... |
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| 13:29.18 | ploc | hello, do you know any tutorial about how to configure a debian web server where apache is running under www-data but where html and php file should be owned by another application user (for security purpose) |
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| 13:30.15 | dawud | ploc: for security reasons run apache chrooted |
| 13:31.00 | akerl | ploc: Is this a trick question? Just run apache, and don't chown the files to www-data... |
| 13:31.00 | ploc | dawud: I'm not the sysadmin so I cannot manage things like that |
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| 13:31.10 | grand_grunt | ploc: You can "simply" use ACLs, too. |
| 13:31.26 | dawud | ploc: then you don't need to worry about security :D |
| 13:31.40 | ploc | dawud: I'm looking for a tutorial on how to manager users, permissions for files |
| 13:32.22 | ploc | akerl: but when apache writes some file, they belong to www-data |
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| 13:32.33 | dawud | ploc: ah, pinfo coreutils look for 'changing file attributes' |
| 13:32.39 | akerl | ploc: Why is apache writing files? |
| 13:33.06 | ploc | akerl: sometimes, php application generates files (cache, upload, wiki...) |
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| 13:33.33 | ploc | dawud: pinfo is the command ? |
| 13:33.44 | dawud | ploc: pinfo is a command, yes |
| 13:33.46 | akerl | Ah. This is why I separate my php from apache. That way php isn't doing anything as www-data |
| 13:33.57 | mastroDani | hi, I have a static binary file with execution and read permissions.. executing it I get -bash: /home/tomcat/paperquid/bin/pdf2image: No such file or directory |
| 13:34.09 | mastroDani | The file is there of course and it should run.... |
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| 13:34.52 | dawud | mastroDani: how are you executing it? |
| 13:35.09 | DammitJim | is there a good step by step tutorial on how to use deb packages from debian-packports? I am looking for virtualbox for wheezy |
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| 13:35.39 | dvs | !tell DammitJim -about bpo |
| 13:35.47 | mastroDani | dawud, I think I got it.. the executable is a 32bit executable on a 64bit server.... |
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| 13:35.49 | ploc | akerl: and if you have 2 websites using php, how do you separate files created by application1 from files created by application2 ? how do you prevent application1 to write into application2 ? |
| 13:35.55 | themill | DammitJim: there are no backports *for* wheezy. Packages are backported *from* wheezy to stable releases. |
| 13:36.05 | akerl | ploc: mpm-itk :p |
| 13:36.44 | DammitJim | someone suggested to me last night to do backports for wheezy since virtualbox is not available from repos for wheezy, but there is for sid and squeeze. maybe I misunderstood him? |
| 13:36.48 | mastroDani | it's been a while I don't have to handle 32bit executable.. what should I do? |
| 13:36.59 | DammitJim | themill, what would you recommend I do? |
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| 13:37.11 | Amnesia | abrotman: what was the command to see what configfiles are loaded? |
| 13:37.13 | Amnesia | in vim |
| 13:37.33 | abrotman | :scriptnames |
| 13:37.37 | themill | DammitJim: you could make your own backport of the sid package to wheezy or just try to install the sid package in wheezy (/msg dpkg tum). It depends why vbox is not currently in wheezy at the moment |
| 13:37.42 | themill | !pal abrotman |
| 13:37.43 | dpkg | points at abrotman and laughs hysterically |
| 13:37.49 | abrotman | eh? |
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| 13:37.57 | abrotman | no bots attacked me |
| 13:38.18 | deconvolution | !pal themill |
| 13:38.19 | dpkg | points at themill and laughs hysterically |
| 13:38.22 | deconvolution | lol |
| 13:38.27 | themill | sulks in the corner |
| 13:39.02 | Amnesia | abrotman: hm, al the same except for ~/.vimrc (those are the same though since I copied them( |
| 13:39.11 | DammitJim | oh man, sounds like I might be in trouble |
| 13:39.13 | abrotman | in the same order too ? |
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| 13:39.28 | themill | !why is virtualbox-ose not in testing |
| 13:39.28 | dpkg | virtualbox-ose is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=virtualbox-ose |
| 13:39.29 | abrotman | Amnesia: does your user own the ~/.vimrc ? |
| 13:39.46 | Amnesia | nope |
| 13:39.53 | Amnesia | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 299 May 25 13:49 /root/.vimrc |
| 13:40.01 | Amnesia | -rw-r--r-- 1 amnesia amnesia 299 May 25 13:20 .vimrc |
| 13:40.16 | DammitJim | themill, interesting... it says: virtualbox-ose is only 8 days old. It must be 10 days old to go in |
| 13:40.22 | DammitJim | Does that mean that in 2 days, it'll be available? |
| 13:40.24 | themill | Amnesia: it looks like vbox might be able to move from sid to wheezy at the end of that period |
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| 13:40.51 | Pendrag0n | how would I call a cmd line bin that writes to standard error, and pipe it's results back to standard out so that I can capture anything it spits out at me in a browser? something like "bin -flag foo 2&1> &1 >" ? |
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| 13:41.16 | dawud | Pendrag0n: tee |
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| 13:43.07 | Pendrag0n | jlee on DEV doc_test $ catdoc Josh_encrypt.doc | tee RESULT: 6êzjKjlee |
| 13:43.17 | Pendrag0n | without tee, result : [File is encrypted. Encryption key = 00000034] |
| 13:43.36 | Pendrag0n | I am trying to write a web thing that see's if it is encrypted, but the encrypted out comes on std err |
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| 13:43.54 | Pendrag0n | so I need to read in std err, or better yet pipe std error to std in |
| 13:43.58 | Pendrag0n | err out I mean |
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| 13:46.56 | Pendrag0n | ah, simple 2>&1 |
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| 13:47.30 | Pinchiukas | What is the 'adm' group for? I can see that it owns the mysql slow logs. I want to give a user permission to read those logs. What am I also giving the user permission to do? |
| 13:47.32 | babilen | Amnesia: Are you sure that both use the same vim and the same configuration files? Could you try "which vim" and "vim -u NONE --noplugin" as both users (send that earlier) |
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| 13:48.07 | Amnesia | yep |
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| 13:48.14 | Amnesia | used :scriptname |
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| 13:49.17 | Amnesia | vim -u NONE --noplugin = no syntax highlighting, so I can't tell |
| 13:50.39 | babilen | Amnesia: doh, right :) |
| 13:50.44 | Amnesia | :) |
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| 13:52.10 | Pendrag0n | Pinchiukas: I'd ask that in the mysql channel |
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| 13:54.15 | babilen | Amnesia: But you can easily enable it with ":syntax on" |
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| 13:54.22 | Amnesia | hm yep |
| 13:54.23 | Amnesia | well nvm |
| 13:54.37 | Amnesia | think it's something in a syntax file where the uid is checked |
| 13:54.38 | Amnesia | it has to |
| 13:55.17 | babilen | Do you get the same syntax highlighting scheme if you run it with "-u NONE --noplugins" and enable syntax highlighting manually? |
| 13:55.22 | Amnesia | yep it differs |
| 13:55.24 | Amnesia | so it has to:) |
| 13:55.28 | Amnesia | yep |
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| 13:55.45 | Amnesia | now I've just bug set bg=light in my vimrc of my normal user |
| 13:55.58 | babilen | Are you happy with that? |
| 13:55.59 | stew | Pinchiukas: the adm group is for just that, letting people read logs |
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| 13:56.23 | Pinchiukas | Which logs? |
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| 13:56.31 | Amnesia | babilen: it's nasty, but don't feel like changing the syntax:) |
| 13:56.33 | Pinchiukas | I mean, it's not defined anywhere as far as I know. |
| 13:56.39 | stew | Pinchiukas: it should be all logs in /var/log |
| 13:56.45 | stew | which is where all logs should go |
| 13:56.46 | petemc | find / -group adm |
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| 13:57.35 | mastroDani | ia32-libs |
| 13:57.44 | phix | mastroDani: gerat |
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| 13:58.27 | Big_Brother | where do i find drivers for my brother HL-2140 for squeeze? |
| 13:58.42 | phix | Big_Brother: you dont have to, it is all in cups |
| 13:58.51 | phix | Big_Brother: remmeber. linus comes with everything |
| 13:58.53 | stew | Pinchiukas: according to the docs in base-password, the adm group also gets to use xconsole |
| 13:59.05 | phix | stew: and the penis group too |
| 13:59.27 | phix | stew: that is usually set as group 0 |
| 13:59.58 | Pinchiukas | petemc: thanks. :) |
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| 14:01.08 | Pinchiukas | stew: what is xconsole? It's a device in /dev/xconsole, as far as I can see. |
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| 14:02.13 | Big_Brother | phix: nonsense. my printer isn't printing when i hit print in OOo writer. |
| 14:02.41 | Pinchiukas | stew: where can I read those docs? |
| 14:02.49 | stew | Pinchiukas: its a pipe that you could be sending log messages to (which then could be watched via the xconsole binary) |
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| 14:03.00 | stew | Pinchiukas: for base-passwd? in /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/ |
| 14:03.02 | phix | Big_Brother: then you forgot to type i some cups command |
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| 14:03.08 | Pinchiukas | I don't seem to have an xconsole binary, though. |
| 14:03.17 | Big_Brother | phix? |
| 14:03.50 | Pinchiukas | stew: I can only see the (probably) initial/base user/group list there. |
| 14:03.52 | stew | Pinchiukas: its in the x11-apps package |
| 14:04.03 | stew | Pinchiukas: yes, what else are you looking for? |
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| 14:04.41 | Pinchiukas | stew: an explanation of all the groups' purposes. :) |
| 14:04.44 | themill | dpkg: tell Big_Brother about openprinting |
| 14:04.53 | stew | Pinchiukas: /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups* |
| 14:04.55 | phix | Big_Brother: Big_Brother? |
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| 14:05.09 | phix | Big_Brother: lets be confused together |
| 14:05.10 | pertl | is there a tool that calculates the crc32 checksum of a file | stdin ? |
| 14:05.19 | phix | pertl: yeah mate |
| 14:05.19 | themill | phix: perhaps you were looking for #defocus |
| 14:05.23 | tdn | Can anyone explain in layman's terms what dump and pass parameters mean in /etc/fstab? |
| 14:05.25 | phix | pertl: sfv |
| 14:05.36 | phix | themill: sure mate |
| 14:05.39 | pertl | thanks !!! :-) |
| 14:05.40 | Pinchiukas | stew: what package does that belong to? :) |
| 14:05.59 | phix | themill: dump refers to backup applications, pass refers to order of mounting file systems |
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| 14:06.37 | themill | sends phix to bed |
| 14:06.40 | phix | themill: in other words, should a file system bed backed up and in which order, and in which order should filessystem be mounted in |
| 14:06.44 | phix | themill: done :) |
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| 14:06.54 | stew | phix: you are giving the incorrect information to the wrong person now |
| 14:06.59 | phix | themill: why? I am telling you correct info |
| 14:07.07 | phix | stew: penis |
| 14:07.16 | phix | stew: that must be correct |
| 14:07.20 | phix | either way |
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| 14:07.26 | stew | phix: take a 10 minute break |
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| 14:07.39 | stew | tdn: have you read the explanations in "man fstab"? |
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| 14:08.50 | ch_ | I've just upgraded a Server to 'squeeze' and now /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is no longer there and my interfaces are in the wrong order. Why isn't it auto generated? Even worse, I created it by hand and it seems to be ignored :( Any ideas? |
| 14:09.04 | Pinchiukas | stew: can you do a 'dpkg -L /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups*' or something? :) |
| 14:09.15 | stew | Pinchiukas: its in the base-passwd package |
| 14:09.20 | tdn | stew, yes, but I do not understand. For example, I do not know what it means that fs needs to be 'dumped'. |
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| 14:09.33 | tdn | stew, this is the reason for me asking for layman's explanation :) |
| 14:09.56 | lapsusbrutus | A windows die-hard-fan asked me today if I could help him setting up a free terminal server.. turns out that with "terminal server" he means a computer with a multiuser OS.. (:p) but he needs to be able to open up for extrernal some kind of remote desktop connections.. What would you suggest I use? VNC? FreeNX or are there other alternatives? It needs to be responsive.. |
| 14:10.23 | stew | tdn: its a backup mechanism, see apt-cache show dump |
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| 14:11.25 | pertl | lapsusbrutus: you basically can choose between VNC and RDP protocol. RDP is more responsive and supported on windows and os x. don't know how much it is on linux. |
| 14:11.43 | petemc | nx is also an option |
| 14:11.44 | pertl | lapsusbrutus: vnc should work in any case |
| 14:11.51 | pertl | never heard about that |
| 14:12.04 | petemc | it works very well, the best implementation is non free tho |
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| 14:13.30 | tdn | stew, ok, I am qurious as to why some lines in fstab has dump=0 while others have dump=1; the same goes for pass=0 vs. pass=1. |
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| 14:13.52 | Pinchiukas | One more thing, where can I find the reason that linux-image was updated for stable? |
| 14:14.19 | tdn | Pinchiukas, usually the security list. |
| 14:14.24 | Pinchiukas | I assumed it was a security issue but I can't find it in http://www.debian.org/security/. |
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| 14:14.41 | tdn | Pinchiukas, maybe part of a point release then? |
| 14:15.05 | stew | tdn: you can probably ignore the dump column, you aren't using dump. you should expect pass=0 meaning "don't check this filesystem" and 1 for "this is the root filesystem", and 2 for "check this filesystem but it isn't the root filesystem" |
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| 14:15.59 | Pinchiukas | tdn: I don't think so. 6.0.1 came out a while ago, didn't it? |
| 14:17.04 | stew | Pinchiukas: aptitude changelog packagename |
| 14:17.16 | tdn | stew, ah! Ok. Thanks! Several lines in my fstab has pass=1, so I guess I will have to change them to 2. |
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| 14:17.17 | stew | Pinchiukas: or read the changelog in /usr/share/doc/$packagename |
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| 14:17.26 | tdn | Pinchiukas, yes. |
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| 14:17.54 | tdn | stew, ignore dump column == just set it to 0? Is that safe? |
| 14:17.57 | tdn | For all lines. |
| 14:18.10 | stew | tdn: it doesn't matter what is in the column until you start using dump |
| 14:18.23 | themill | Pinchiukas: you might like to subscript to DSA (/msg dpkg dsa) then you'd see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2011/msg00111.html |
| 14:18.26 | Pinchiukas | stew: that doesn't kind of work. :) the aptitude command. |
| 14:18.32 | tdn | stew, ok. |
| 14:18.37 | tdn | stew, thanks. |
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| 14:19.11 | phix | lets debian |
| 14:19.14 | Pinchiukas | Thanks, themill. |
| 14:19.21 | cesar_CR | hello all I have a server running and I want to use dd to back it up, can I do it while the server is running ? |
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| 14:20.54 | lapsusbrutus | pertl: xrdp going to check out that posibility.. |
| 14:20.57 | grand_grunt | cesar_CR: You can do it (reading datas won't kill anything) but the result may be non-coherent |
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| 14:23.38 | cesar_CR | grand_grunt, by non-coherent you mean the the data being stored at the time of bk wont get copied ? |
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| 14:26.30 | grand_grunt | cesar_CR: yes, or partially copied. The beginning of your image will be at "T" time, the end at "T+t" |
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| 14:28.55 | S0me1 | Anyone here try use mod-auth-mysql ? |
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| 14:31.40 | cutout | hi am trying to upgrade from leeny to squeeze, but I get this error when running apt-get upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/612762/ |
| 14:31.45 | cutout | please help me |
| 14:32.53 | cutout | here is my source.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/612763/ |
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| 14:34.23 | stew | cutout: run "dpkg --configure -a" and if there is an error, show us all of the output |
| 14:34.49 | cutout | stew: thanks. one sec please |
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| 14:36.30 | cutout | stew: no errors |
| 14:36.45 | cutout | should I run upgrade again? |
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| 14:37.53 | stew | cutout: sure, and if you get errors, show us the entire output |
| 14:38.09 | cutout | stew: thanks I will |
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| 14:39.16 | cutout | stew: it is the same error :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/612766/ |
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| 14:40.51 | tux0 | it's minor |
| 14:40.54 | nubcake | does debian have builtin ext4 support? because i've tried to mount an external ext4 drive and it told me "unknown fs type 'ext4'" |
| 14:40.57 | stew | ahh, but now we see why |
| 14:41.22 | cutout | stew : why |
| 14:41.26 | justin_ | nubcake: what version of debian? |
| 14:41.27 | stew | cutout: what does "dpkg -l libpcap" say? |
| 14:41.28 | dvs | go ahead sherlock! |
| 14:41.43 | stew | nubcake: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 14:41.54 | nubcake | give me a sec. |
| 14:42.09 | stew | cutout: you seem to have a libpcap package that didn't come from debian, or is from a much older version of debian |
| 14:42.14 | cutout | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612769/ |
| 14:42.25 | nubcake | uname -r: 2.6.26-2-amd64 |
| 14:42.35 | nubcake | so dist-upgrade i guess ? |
| 14:43.00 | stew | cutout: that package is the problem, it looks like you installed this libpcap package from some non-debian source. I'd recommend removing it first then trying to continue the upgrade |
| 14:43.21 | stew | nubcake: ext4 support was marked as experimental at that point. you are running lenny? |
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| 14:43.27 | cutout | stew: but this will break my server right? |
| 14:43.45 | nubcake | stew: i'm not sure which version is running on this box |
| 14:43.49 | stew | cutout: i doubt it. what are you using this libpcap package for? |
| 14:43.55 | stew | nubcake: what does "lsb_release -c" say? |
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| 14:44.01 | nubcake | apt-get is installing some -lenny5 packages |
| 14:44.07 | cutout | stew: it is for ossim I think |
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| 14:44.18 | cutout | stew and am using ossim |
| 14:44.48 | cutout | stew: is there a way to uninstall it and then reinstall it? |
| 14:44.50 | nubcake | lsb_release command not found |
| 14:45.26 | stew | cutout: unless I'm misunderstanding what ossim is, i don't know why it would need to sniff network packets |
| 14:45.52 | cutout | stew: if I do apt-get remove. will it remain in the cach so I install it afterwards? |
| 14:46.27 | stew | cutout: you have libpcap from non-debian in conflict with the one in debian, you cannot have both, you really should be using the one in debian. |
| 14:46.41 | cutout | stew: OK |
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| 14:46.52 | cutout | stew: thanks for the help :) |
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| 14:46.57 | stew | cutout: so if you really want you unsupported, non-debian one, you need to remove whatever debian packages depend on libpcap0.8, but I don't recommend this. |
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| 14:47.17 | stew | cutout: what does "aptitude search '~i~Dlibpacp$'" return? |
| 14:47.31 | stew | nubcake: what does /etc/debian_version say you are running? |
| 14:47.38 | cutout | stew: no I'll do dpkg -P. this is a staging server so it is OK if I broke it :D |
| 14:48.02 | nubcake | stew: 5.0.8 |
| 14:48.05 | cutout | stew: returns nothing |
| 14:48.28 | stew | cutout: so no other debian packages depend on this, perhaps its something locally compiled... |
| 14:48.49 | cutout | stew: maybe. I will remove it and see |
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| 14:49.10 | stew | nubcake: yes, that's lenny, the "oldstable" version of debian. you can install a newer kernel for lenny (from lenny-backports (/msg dpkg backports)) or upgrade to squeeze: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 14:49.25 | X-Raimo | hi all. I have problem with vlan. during the start it says: Count not open /proc/net/vlan/config. Maybe you need to load the 8021q module, or maybe you are not using PROCFS?? |
| 14:49.32 | X-Raimo | module is loaded |
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| 14:50.02 | nubcake | wow sweet, thanks for the help! |
| 14:50.09 | cutout | stew: how to uninstall it :( |
| 14:50.22 | cutout | dpkg -P libpacp |
| 14:50.22 | dpkg | cutout: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 14:50.24 | cutout | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove libpacp which isn't installed. |
| 14:50.40 | justin_ | X-Raimo: what version of debian re you using? |
| 14:50.58 | X-Raimo | justin_: 6.0 |
| 14:50.59 | cutout | dpkg: I don't know the name of the package |
| 14:51.00 | dpkg | cutout: I wish you would RTFM. |
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| 14:51.30 | Danyk2099 | Hi, can anyone help me with installing Zend Framework 1.11.6? |
| 14:52.43 | nubcake | stew: it tells me to remove volative & backports from sources.list "changing lenny to squeeze", do i have to replace lenny with squeeze on the volatile and backports line, or delete those lines and replace lenny in the other lines ? (sorry, english is not my native language) |
| 14:52.45 | dym | Say I had a Line of commands that would grep me certain mail id's out of mailq into a list of them with on per line - how could i redirect the output to postsuper -d to delete those? |
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| 14:53.26 | stew | nubcake: i'd recomend removing them for now, then add them back later after the upgrade if you need them |
| 14:53.50 | nubcake | oh right, so i just put # there, right? |
| 14:53.51 | stew | dym: redirect them to "xargs -n1 postsuper -d" |
| 14:54.00 | Danyk2099 | Anybody? |
| 14:54.28 | stew | nubcake: sure, except note that "volatile" changed, so if you want to reenable it: /msg dpkg squeeze volatile |
| 14:54.41 | cutout | stew: am it seems ossim depends on it but not in a direct way http://paste.ubuntu.com/612776/ |
| 14:54.45 | cutout | what can I do? |
| 14:54.58 | nubcake | stew: thanks again! :) |
| 14:55.02 | stew | Danyk2099: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 14:56.57 | dym | stew: like: mailq | grep xy | awk '{print $1}' | xargs -n1 postsuper -d ? |
| 14:58.08 | stew | dym: yes, note that you can eliminate grep there by doing: "mailq | awk /xy/{print $1} | xargs -n1 postsuper -d" |
| 14:58.25 | dym | oh |
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| 14:58.29 | dym | cute! thanks |
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| 15:11.13 | functor | Hi, I keep getting http://forum.kohanaframework.org/discussion/565/garbage-collector-error-with-sessions-on-debian/p1 |
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| 15:11.18 | functor | What is the "correct" fix? |
| 15:11.34 | functor | It only started happening when I migrated from Lenny to Squeeze |
| 15:12.04 | justin_ | functor: do you have /var/lib/php5 ? |
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| 15:12.22 | functor | yes justin_ |
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| 15:12.33 | justin_ | functor: - disable garbage collection in the session config file sounds like the best fix |
| 15:12.49 | justin_ | the debian php package comes with a cronjob that cleans up sessions |
| 15:12.56 | functor | ok good |
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| 15:13.44 | functor | justin_: so change the php.ini to gc_probability = 0? |
| 15:14.09 | justin_ | functor: also see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626640 |
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| 15:14.29 | manchot | how to run a bash comment every 10 seconds? |
| 15:15.41 | stew | manchot: while sleep 10 ; do echo hi ; done |
| 15:16.16 | functor | justin_: seems its fixed in 5.3.6, squeeze has 5.3.3 |
| 15:16.17 | functor | hmm |
| 15:16.27 | functor | do you think it will be worth getting the testing one |
| 15:16.40 | functor | sid* |
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| 15:31.09 | dokma|2 | how do I check what opened a port? |
| 15:31.26 | dokma|2 | I can see some traffic in iftop and can't tell what it is |
| 15:31.48 | babilen | dokma|2: I like http://paste.debian.net/117939/ |
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| 15:33.04 | dokma|2 | babilen: what is this thing? it does not look like it has anything to do with opened ports |
| 15:33.33 | jordanm | dokma|2: ports_and_pids() appears to |
| 15:33.47 | themill | dokma|2: it looks at the list of open ports and maps them to executables and then the packages that contain them |
| 15:33.50 | dokma|2 | ahhh... only spotted it now |
| 15:34.07 | babilen | dokma|2: It will list running daemons for all open ports and the packages they've been installed from |
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| 15:35.22 | simonlnu | babilen: neato |
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| 15:35.51 | babilen | dokma|2: output looks like http://paste.debian.net/117940/ |
| 15:35.52 | dokma|2 | cool.... it worked when I removed the l param to netstat |
| 15:36.01 | dokma|2 | it was skype |
| 15:36.21 | dokma|2 | which is strange that it uses so much bandwith when it's just sitting there |
| 15:36.34 | dokma|2 | no calls running |
| 15:36.38 | justin_ | dokma|2: you must be new to skype |
| 15:37.00 | dokma|2 | well.... not really |
| 15:37.06 | justin_ | dokma|2: you are running proprietary, binary only, obfuscated software on your machine. software that does who the fuck knows what |
| 15:37.10 | dokma|2 | just never checked the bandwidth abusage |
| 15:37.29 | dokma|2 | yeah I know |
| 15:37.35 | dokma|2 | I'm willing to live with it for now |
| 15:37.41 | jhutchins_lt | dokma|2: It has something to do with relaying traffic for people behind firewalls. |
| 15:38.00 | dokma|2 | really |
| 15:38.06 | thewanderer1 | you're in a botnet now :P |
| 15:38.09 | dokma|2 | hmm... it's time to deinstall that shit |
| 15:38.59 | babilen | jhutchins_lt: seriously? |
| 15:39.08 | babilen | [citation needed/would be great] |
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| 15:42.07 | jhutchins_lt | babilen: Rumors. Never pursued the details, I'm sure it's on some forum somewhere. |
| 15:42.12 | thewanderer1 | I've seen that too somewhere, but I'd guess they don't like boasting that |
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| 15:47.59 | simonlnu | skype doesn't even run very well for me. that makes me happy (for once). |
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| 15:48.50 | simonlnu | babilen: i named it scan_opened_ports.bash - for obvious reasons. |
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| 16:01.07 | rypervenche | Using apt-pinning I have installed a backport version of linux-base. How can I reinstall the stable version of it via aptitude? (or any other method really) |
| 16:01.15 | kfogel | Hoping to install Debian GNU/Linux 64-bit on my Dell XPS M1330 laptop. "cat /proc/cpuinfo" shows "lm" listed in the flags section, so I think this is a 64-bit-capable machine (right?). Right now it's running 32-bit Ubuntu, though; to install Debian would I use amd64 netinst img? |
| 16:02.00 | thewanderer1 | rypervenche: does running `sensors` command return anything meaningful? |
| 16:02.30 | thewanderer1 | rypervenche: aptitude install linux-base/stable |
| 16:03.01 | stew | kfogel: yes and yes |
| 16:03.03 | thewanderer1 | kfogel: yes, along with the network cable - WiFi usually doesn't work during install :P |
| 16:03.09 | rypervenche | thewanderer1: Not really, and I have tried doing -t squeeze install, I'll try that way. |
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| 16:03.38 | rypervenche | thewanderer1: Ah, that worked, thank you :) |
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| 16:03.41 | kfogel | stew, thewanderer1: Thank you both. This is over wired ethernet, so I should be fine. |
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| 16:07.50 | Azoff | Hello |
| 16:08.30 | Azoff | I'm helping a friend getting a LyCom ST-126 card running in Debian Squeeze. |
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| 16:10.09 | Azoff | When he attatches any drives to the mux, they are not found by the kernel. Is there any known issues with muxes and the kernels in Squeeze? |
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| 16:13.00 | NiveusLuna | does not having sudo installed count as restricting an httpd user's sudo access? |
| 16:13.40 | NiveusLuna | hm... debian uses apparmor by default, doesn't it? |
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| 16:14.31 | lapsusbrutus | anyone happen to have xrdp keymap files? or know howto generate them? I did whats explained here (http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.rdesktop.xrdp.devel/579) but get error when "setxkbmap no" from client.. XKB extension not present on :10.0 |
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| 16:16.24 | babilen | !tell NiveusLuna -about apparmor |
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| 16:16.59 | johnny2k | hello how i can change date? my clock is wrong |
| 16:17.25 | NiveusLuna | babilen: Wow, nice. Fedora's fedbot could use something like that. |
| 16:17.30 | NiveusLuna | babilen: thank yo. |
| 16:17.40 | NiveusLuna | *you |
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| 16:18.37 | cahoot | !set the clock |
| 16:18.45 | cahoot | meh |
| 16:18.53 | lapsusbrutus | woot.. xrdp now works.. had to use "rdesktop -k no IP" from client.. lol phew... |
| 16:18.54 | babilen | NiveusLuna: Just playing the bot :) |
| 16:19.07 | lapsusbrutus | wonders how this will work from windoze |
| 16:19.08 | johnny2k | ups i found it |
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| 16:23.21 | webad13 | I am doing: nmap -sP 192.168.1.100-115, but one of the hosts is not registered as being up... instead if I ping it it responds... any ideas why nmap is not recognizing it? I am running it without root, with sudo it is registered |
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| 16:24.42 | koshie | Hi |
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| 16:25.27 | dawud | Trying to install linux-headers-2.6.38-bpo.2-686-bigmem is not possible because it has a dependency on linux-kbuild-2.6.38 (N/A), workarounds? |
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| 16:26.17 | koshie | I've installed testing on my eeePC 1001HA, when I'm coming on GDM my touchpad and my keyboard doesn't work. I can go on rescue mode. |
| 16:26.23 | rypervenche | dawud: Why not get it though apt-pinning? |
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| 16:26.31 | koshie | I've search on google and I've don't found something
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| 16:26.36 | stew | dawud: build it yourself, look towards the bottom of http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage |
| 16:26.58 | koshie | And I don't understand how search on bugs.debian.org :|. So, if you have an idea
Thank a lot :) |
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| 16:28.06 | stew | dawud: looking at the dependencies, you probably could grab just that .deb and dpkg -i it |
| 16:28.15 | dawud | stew: yeah, I've gone that road before, I usually do indeed, my question is: what's the point in having sth uninstallable in bpo? |
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| 16:28.55 | stew | dawud: its better than not providing the headers at all |
| 16:28.58 | dawud | stew: I was going to do just that, pick it from wheezy and dpkg -i it. |
| 16:29.06 | dawud | stew: yep |
| 16:29.31 | stew | dawud: if you dpkg -i that, you'll be able to compile out of tree modules for you kernel. if they didn't provide the headers package at all, you'd have to rebuild the kenrel completely |
| 16:29.39 | jhutchins_lt | dawud: Backports isn't a full-service repository that answers everybody's needs. |
| 16:30.02 | dawud | jhutchins_lt: ok, I know, I know |
| 16:30.16 | jhutchins_lt | dawud: I know there is ongoing discussion of the various packages related to the .38 kernel, and people are working on what needs to be available and what doesn't. |
| 16:30.25 | jhutchins_lt | dawud: Why do you need .38? |
| 16:30.29 | stew | dawud: i'd expect that it will appear soon |
| 16:30.36 | dawud | jhutchins_lt: lirc support |
| 16:30.43 | stew | jhutchins_lt: where is this discussion? on the backports list? |
| 16:30.46 | dawud | jhutchins_lt: for an specific hw |
| 16:30.52 | jhutchins_lt | stew: There is some there. |
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| 16:31.06 | themill | stew: so did everyone else but 5 weeks later it's not there :( |
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| 16:31.12 | rypervenche | dawud: I have squeeze-backports in my sources.list, and it is apt-pinned. Then I just sudo aptitude -t squeeze-backports install (kernelname), and it installs the dependencies as well. |
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| 16:31.44 | themill | rypervenche: you can't build out-of-tree modules against the packages in bpo; you still need to go and fetch things from wheezy directly. |
| 16:31.49 | dawud | rypervenche: do you have testing pinned as well? |
| 16:32.01 | stew | oh, actually perhaps the 2.6.38 kbuild won't ever show in backports now that we have 2.6.39 |
| 16:32.22 | dawud | stew: :) |
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| 16:32.28 | themill | stew: this has been a repeated problem with kernel uploads to bpo for some time |
| 16:32.31 | rypervenche | Question: I just updated to kernel 2.6.38-bpo.2-686, however I need to fix virtualbox and ndiswrapper somehow, I got these errors. http://imagebin.org/155050 How might I fix this? |
| 16:32.38 | rypervenche | dawud: I do. |
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| 16:33.28 | inc0 | hi, how can I allow everyone to write on my windows fat32 partition? |
| 16:33.43 | inc0 | its mounted in fstab allright, but most of apps cant write on it |
| 16:33.44 | themill | rypervenche: I believe squeeze's vbox is incompatible with the bpo kernel, you need to backport vbox as well (make sure you have plenty of disk space for that compilation) |
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| 16:35.56 | manchot | how to keep a command running after closing a SSH session? |
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| 16:36.18 | jhutchins_lt | dawud: You could try building the modules for .32 |
| 16:36.35 | rypervenche | manchot: You could add "& disown" after the command |
| 16:36.49 | rypervenche | manchot: Or use screen. |
| 16:37.08 | manchot | rypervenche, will nohup work? |
| 16:37.40 | rypervenche | manchot: Never heard of it. |
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| 16:38.13 | manchot | rypervenche, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nohup ? |
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| 16:39.00 | psilikon | I am looking for a fix on Squeeze with kernel 2.6.32-5-686 regarding the i915 driver. Once I kill X and try to restart X I just get a black screen with a cursor. I am only running X with no window manager btw. |
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| 16:39.23 | dawud | jhutchins_lt: that implies patching the kernel, I guess |
| 16:39.35 | jhutchins_lt | Do-able. |
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| 16:40.38 | cutout | Hi, after upgrading from leeny to squeeze am having problems installing nmap |
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| 16:41.06 | dawud | jhutchins_lt: I'd need to know what changes have been introduced to support that hw form 32->38. |
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| 16:41.13 | babilen | !tell cutout -about bat |
| 16:41.19 | babilen | cutout: Show us please :) |
| 16:41.29 | cutout | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612825/ |
| 16:41.55 | babilen | cutout: Please include all other requested information as well |
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| 16:42.39 | cutout | babilen: what info. please? |
| 16:42.43 | babilen | !bat |
| 16:42.44 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 16:42.58 | babilen | cutout: ^^^ (you should have received a private message from dpkg) |
| 16:43.05 | cutout | :) |
| 16:43.10 | dawud | jhutchins_lt: whilst absolutely do-able, seems overkill confronted to a 38-bpo install that's being done while we speak |
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| 16:45.46 | cutout | babilen: this is the output of the command, http://paste.ubuntu.com/612825/ |
| 16:46.00 | cutout | for the apt-cache I did not get it :( |
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| 16:46.38 | babilen | Why not? Show me what happens when you run "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy nmap libpcap0.8" |
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| 16:47.21 | babilen | Please also paste your sources.list (all together in a nice pastebin) |
| 16:47.21 | cutout | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612828/ |
| 16:47.31 | cutout | OK |
| 16:47.35 | cutout | one sec |
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| 16:47.55 | babilen | Take your time (/me gets coffee) |
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| 16:48.46 | themill | cutout: using aptitude rather than apt-get may also solve your problems straight away. You might like to check what other crufty packages you've got installed too; /msg dpkg obsolete |
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| 16:50.18 | cutout | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612831/ |
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| 16:50.59 | themill | cutout: that looks a lot like you've not yet finished the upgrade from lenny to squeeze |
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| 16:51.18 | cutout | !! |
| 16:51.18 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
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| 16:52.01 | cutout | but apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade does not give me errors or anything to install |
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| 16:52.14 | themill | cutout: can you pastebin the output of "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
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| 16:52.45 | webad13 | is it possilbe to specify in /etc/hosts a MAC address instead of IP address for a given hostname |
| 16:52.48 | webad13 | ? |
| 16:52.59 | justin_ | webad13: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 16:53.17 | cutout | It gives the same error. but this is only now http://paste.ubuntu.com/612833/ |
| 16:53.20 | webad13 | justin_: hostname resolution for a scrip |
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| 16:54.19 | cutout | themill: how can I complete the upgrade? |
| 16:54.25 | webad13 | justin_: basically nmap will scann through my network and it assigns hostnames to the known IPs, but since part of the network is DHCP I would need to use MAC address |
| 16:54.28 | themill | cutout: can you pastebin the output of "aptitude search ~o" for me? (that will give us a picture of how many packages are still to be upgraded) |
| 16:54.37 | webad13 | router does not resolve some hostnames, this is why |
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| 16:55.18 | cutout | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612836/ |
| 16:55.39 | webad13 | justin_: would it work if in /etc/hosts I put MAC address instead of IP for a given hostname ? |
| 16:55.48 | justin_ | webad13: no |
| 16:55.49 | justin_ | webad13: fix your router |
| 16:55.51 | webad13 | :( |
| 16:56.14 | themill | cutout: ok, so let's try "aptitude full-upgrade". If it doesn't threaten to remove lots of packages, then let it do the upgrade. |
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| 16:56.43 | cutout | themill : OK, it is a staging server |
| 16:56.49 | babilen | cutout: Which kernel are you currently running? (uname -r) |
| 16:56.56 | webad13 | justin_: it is a safety feature on the router that it does not allow strange hostnames... so if a hostname is not "good" it will put a ? for it |
| 16:57.08 | justin_ | webad13: ok, so fix the hostname? :) |
| 16:57.17 | webad13 | it is on the phones |
| 16:57.17 | cutout | 2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64 |
| 16:57.23 | webad13 | they connect via wifi |
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| 16:57.33 | webad13 | so it is not so simple really |
| 16:57.34 | cutout | what, should I do aptitude full-upgrade |
| 16:57.35 | themill | cutout: a server, with libgnome and msttcorefonts on it? ok... |
| 16:57.37 | cutout | ?? |
| 16:57.46 | cutout | :) |
| 16:57.52 | justin_ | webad13: run the dhcp server that is part of dnsmasq and turn off the one on the router? |
| 16:57.53 | cutout | not my mistake |
| 16:57.53 | webad13 | I could give dhcp reservation but again |
| 16:57.55 | babilen | cutout: Yes, please go ahead |
| 16:57.59 | cutout | OK |
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| 16:58.38 | cutout | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612837/ |
| 16:58.45 | cutout | should I accept? |
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| 16:59.00 | babilen | ,versions ossim-framework |
| 16:59.02 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ossim-framework' was found in i386. |
| 16:59.27 | webad13 | yeah that would be possible but it is a bit too much trouble just for a script... I could also get all mac addresses and assign names myself |
| 16:59.29 | webad13 | in a script |
| 16:59.48 | themill | cutout: what's this ossim-framework thing and where are the packages from? |
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| 17:00.03 | cutout | for alien vault |
| 17:00.15 | antivirtel | hi, http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=36331 is i386? or other arch? |
| 17:00.16 | cutout | it is something for networking |
| 17:00.21 | themill | the aliens are coming? |
| 17:00.27 | cutout | :P |
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| 17:00.38 | simonlnu | alien vault. o_O |
| 17:00.40 | babilen | cutout: Is the package essential? |
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| 17:00.58 | babilen | cutout: And what have the poor aliens done to deserve to be put into a vault? |
| 17:01.02 | rmacd | I'm about to go bananas. I've got Debian on an Apple/MacBook Pro and there's NO INSERT KEY. Yes, you heard me right. xmodmap /should/ allow me to re-assign functions, but is this the usual way to do it? |
| 17:01.04 | themill | it looks a lot like it's preventing the rest of the upgrade |
| 17:01.10 | babilen | yup |
| 17:01.13 | cutout | well yes, it is all I need from the server. but I have the debs for it so I mught be able to reinstall it |
| 17:01.29 | cutout | so do I accept? |
| 17:01.33 | babilen | cutout: yes |
| 17:01.36 | cutout | OK |
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| 17:01.53 | Bennit_GRR | Hai |
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| 17:02.12 | Bennit_GRR | I've got a package that refuses to be removed / updated: ttf-lyx |
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| 17:02.26 | jhutchins_lt | rmacd: Ctrl-V |
| 17:02.27 | cutout | it did not go so far :( |
| 17:02.31 | cutout | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612839/ |
| 17:02.48 | Bennit_GRR | the archive file generates a postrm script that calls for dpkg-maintscript-helper which isn't installed on my system |
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| 17:03.11 | Bennit_GRR | tried by taking over the dpkg-maintscript-helper from ubuntu natty |
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| 17:03.17 | simonlnu | no insert key? wtf kind of fu kbd is that? |
| 17:03.32 | Bennit_GRR | but then an env var called DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_NAME isn't set |
| 17:04.15 | rmacd | jhutchins_lt: You'd think so, wouldn't you? ;-) |
| 17:04.19 | Bennit_GRR | is there no way to manually remove the ttf-lyx package? I don't use lyx on this system. |
| 17:04.23 | babilen | cutout: Please remove/purge libpcap as well (or check what its removal would do) |
| 17:05.13 | cutout | I did http://paste.ubuntu.com/612841/ |
| 17:05.19 | stew | Bennit_GRR: "dpkg: /usr/bin/dpkg-maintscript-helper", its in the dpkg package, if you don't have "dpkg" installed, you are in trouble |
| 17:05.24 | cutout | there nothing to upgrade?? |
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| 17:05.45 | Bennit_GRR | I most certainly have dpkg installed |
| 17:05.56 | Bennit_GRR | but there is no dpkg-maintscript-helper in /usr/bin |
| 17:06.00 | stew | Bennit_GRR: what version does "dpkg -l dpkg" return? |
| 17:06.14 | Bennit_GRR | 1.15.3.1+b1 |
| 17:06.48 | stew | judd: versions dpkg |
| 17:06.49 | judd | Package dpkg on i386 -- lenny: 1.14.31; lenny-security: 1.14.31; squeeze: 1.15.8.10; sid: 1.16.0.3; wheezy: 1.16.0.3 |
| 17:07.02 | stew | weird |
| 17:07.03 | babilen | cutout: No need for "dpkg -P" you can just use aptitude or apt-get for purges ... You may now remove packages found by "aptitude search '~o'" -- check which of those you want to keep (they are all those packages that are not in the currently configured repositories) -- If you want to remove/purge them all run "aptitude remove/purge '~o'" |
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| 17:07.16 | stew | Bennit_GRR: what version of ttf-lyx is isntalled? |
| 17:07.18 | abrotman | which version of debian is that? |
| 17:07.32 | babilen | cutout: That also includes locally install third-party packages (hence my warning to check first) |
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| 17:07.41 | Bennit_GRR | stew: 2.0.0-1 |
| 17:07.54 | cutout | babilen: thanks I will |
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| 17:08.12 | kfogel | stew, thewanderer1: hmm, so apparently 'dd if=~kfogel/scratch/debian-6.0.1a-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc1' is not how I should have created a bootable USB stick. The installation FAQ for some reason doesn't cover this step; I'm looking around for it, but if you know it off the top of your head I'd be grateful for the tip. |
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| 17:08.32 | babilen | cutout: Have fun! |
| 17:08.39 | cutout | :) |
| 17:08.40 | jhutchins_lt | kfogel: I believe you can use cat. |
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| 17:08.59 | jhutchins_lt | !usb install |
| 17:09.00 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 17:09.00 | MorpheusYYC | Im looking to update a specific package, when i try apt-get upgrade [package name] it attempts to upgrade the whole system, how do i set it to only upgrade that specific package |
| 17:09.01 | stew | kfogel: are there other partitions on /dev/sdc that you can't remove? |
| 17:09.07 | kfogel | jhutchins_lt: wow, really? Ok, I'll try. cat straight into /dev/sdc1? |
| 17:09.16 | stew | kfogel: yes, but /dev/sdc1 is probably the wrong place |
| 17:09.21 | kfogel | stew: uh, no, should not be. it's a usb stick |
| 17:09.23 | jhutchins_lt | kfogel: Usually you go straight to sdc without a partition. |
| 17:09.29 | justin_ | dd and cat will have an identical result |
| 17:09.30 | stew | kfogel: then use /dev/sdc instead of /dev/sdc1 |
| 17:09.34 | kfogel | stew, jhutchins_lt : so I should have done sdc |
| 17:09.38 | stew | kfogel: yeah |
| 17:09.42 | jhutchins_lt | kfogel: Give it a shot. |
| 17:09.44 | kfogel | stew, jhutchins_lt: trying now. thanks! |
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| 17:10.24 | stew | Bennit_GRR: so you have some packages older than stable, but some from testing, this is a not recommended nor well tested situation. i'd recommend upgrading to the stable version of dpkg first |
| 17:10.40 | stew | Bennit_GRR: adding random stuff from ubuntu onto a debian install isn't the best idea either |
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| 17:11.59 | abrotman | MorpheusYYC: aptitude install foopkg |
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| 17:12.35 | rmacd | Oh, well, here's a rephrase of my question: "Insert" key isn't on my keyboard (non-pc), therefore xmodmap could be used by gnome/kde to reassign it to, say F12. Right? But how'd I reassign it without X? No window manager on the system. |
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| 17:12.56 | sgeigerbot | Please remind me: What's the command to determine which package a file like (say Python.h) is in? |
| 17:12.58 | Bennit_GRR | I wanted to upgrade from the old testing to the new one |
| 17:13.04 | themill | I'm trying to make a 3D rendered picture of the negative image of some spheres (i.e sphere subtracted from a cube). I've tried blender and can bring it to its knees when rendering this (2h of cpu time followed by crash). Any other suggestions? I once used povray for this sort of thing... |
| 17:13.05 | jhutchins_lt | rmacd: Yes, you can do that. |
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| 17:13.10 | babilen | sgeigerbot: apt-file |
| 17:13.11 | themill | dpkg: tell sgeigerbot about apt-file |
| 17:13.17 | Bennit_GRR | telling apt to use the stable sources now tells me I need to reinstall ttf-lyx but no archive can be found |
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| 17:13.22 | jhutchins_lt | rmacd: It's been a long time since I messed with it, but you can customize the console keyboard. |
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| 17:14.08 | rmacd | jhutchins_lt: Ok, that's wicked. It's just that I don't want/need a window manager but there doesn't seem to be an immediately obvious console-only method. Back to Google! :) |
| 17:14.11 | stew | Bennit_GRR: we'd recommend you upgrade to stable before upgrading to testing |
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| 17:14.36 | kfogel | stew, jhutchins_lt: "No boot sector on USB device" -- then it skipped over into Ubuntu boot. |
| 17:14.40 | kfogel | (from hard drive that is) |
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| 17:14.44 | jhutchins_lt | rmacd: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/custom-keyboard-commands-for-the-console/ |
| 17:14.50 | cutout | after all seems nothing to be upgraded??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/612846/ |
| 17:14.53 | stew | Bennit_GRR: and if you are going to downgrade ttf-lyx, it might make sense to upgrade to at least stable first |
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| 17:15.14 | jhutchins_lt | kfogel: I had good luck with unetbootin for squeeze. |
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| 17:15.34 | stew | kfogel: that's after copying it directly to /dev/sdc? odd |
| 17:15.39 | jhutchins_lt | rmacd: http://my.opera.com/robodesign/blog/show.dml/300997 |
| 17:15.44 | rmacd | jhutchins_lt: Yep, that looks like the right one, 'loadkeys' seemed to pop up in context in a search alongside 'xmodmaps' |
| 17:15.49 | wildc4rd | evenin all! |
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| 17:17.13 | Leftmost | I've just installed transmission-daemon on squeeze. How can I force it to run with a UTF-8 locale? |
| 17:17.30 | kfogel | stew: yeah |
| 17:17.31 | cutout | babilen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612846/ |
| 17:17.39 | kfogel | jhutchins_lt: googling up unetbootin now |
| 17:17.42 | rmacd | jhutchins_lt: Thank you, you're a legend. |
| 17:17.55 | jhutchins_lt | rmacd: More of a fossil really. |
| 17:18.03 | rmacd | Hahh |
| 17:18.09 | cutout | babilen: does this mean that I have upgraded? |
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| 17:18.28 | babilen | cutout: Looks wonderful -- No need to repeat the same action with both aptitude and apt-get though. Choose one and use it :) /me recommends aptitude |
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| 17:22.09 | cutout | babilen: thanks :) |
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| 17:27.39 | rypervenche | I will be using module assistant on virtualbox-ose-source. Do I need to remove virtualbox-ose before I do that? |
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| 17:30.42 | Datz | hi, some source installs write stuff to statoverride file? |
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| 17:31.25 | sterna | hi, when i start the squeeze installer using syslinux and netinst.iso on the usb drive, what do i need to do to make installer detect it? |
| 17:31.42 | Datz | I have a source install that I can't remove with make, and when I remove some of its directories and install the actuall package it looks for files in the wrong place. |
| 17:31.46 | sterna | i'd like to make a preseed installation |
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| 17:35.00 | Datz | I just wonder how dpkg knows about a source install |
| 17:35.56 | Datz | when I install munin with a package manager, it looks for stuff in /opt/munin |
| 17:36.14 | justin_ | Datz: what stuff? |
| 17:36.17 | stew | kfogel: the other option is the older more manual method of using the hd install media, which should be documented in /msg dpkg usb-install |
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| 17:36.28 | jhutchins_lt | Datz: You're going to have to go through the makefile and undo each step. |
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| 17:37.04 | stew | Datz: i'd guess that it is finding stuff left over from your custom install in /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin |
| 17:37.07 | Datz | jhutchins_lt: is there a way to clear munin related stuff out of dkpg statoverride? |
| 17:37.15 | Datz | humm |
| 17:37.34 | Datz | stew: I looked for munin related stuff there |
| 17:37.38 | stew | Datz: are you sure there is stuff in statoverride? |
| 17:37.45 | Datz | yes |
| 17:37.56 | Datz | and I purged all of the munin packages |
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| 17:38.02 | Datz | with aptitude |
| 17:38.15 | Datz | and it remains |
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| 17:38.37 | justin_ | Datz: it? |
| 17:38.38 | Datz | then I mv /opt/munin to munin.old |
| 17:38.49 | stew | justin_: the overrides |
| 17:38.53 | Datz | justin_: munin entries in statoverride |
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| 17:39.38 | stew | Datz: can you give me an example of an override that still exists? |
| 17:39.47 | Datz | sure |
| 17:39.49 | stew | (some come from munin and some come from munin-node) |
| 17:39.55 | Datz | let me pastebin |
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| 17:40.01 | stew | (i doubt any of them come from your installation from /opt) |
| 17:41.16 | Datz | humm |
| 17:41.39 | stew | (and they wouldn't cause the problem you are describing anyway) |
| 17:41.50 | stew | Datz: are there cronjobs left over from the old install? |
| 17:42.07 | Datz | stew: maybe there could be |
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| 17:42.40 | stew | Datz: what errors do you see, and where? |
| 17:42.42 | Datz | I just thought statoverride was the culprit after I removed user munin when everything was purged, which created problems |
| 17:42.43 | DammitJim | silly question, but what is ISO 14755 mode in a urxvt window when one presses Ctrl + Shift? |
| 17:43.44 | Datz | stew: I'll have to install again to tell you. Do you still want to see some munin entries from /var/lib/dpkg/availiable or like? |
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| 17:44.11 | stew | Datz: if you did, I might be able to help you figure out why there are still entries in statoverride |
| 17:44.28 | stew | Datz: i'm guessing that you purged munin, but not munin-node or munin-comon perhaps |
| 17:44.29 | justin_ | DammitJim: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ISO+14755 |
| 17:44.41 | Datz | stew: basically, when I moved /opt/munin to munin.old the errors were that files couldn't be opened in /opt/munin/ when I'd try and start munin-node |
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| 17:45.08 | Datz | stew: I pruged all munin related |
| 17:45.29 | DammitJim | is there a way to get rid of that key combination? I use Ctrl + Shift + right to navigate through screens |
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| 17:47.31 | Datz | stew: this is probably no help: http://pastebin.com/7YpsjDGB |
| 17:47.59 | Datz | that is /var/lib/dpkg/availiable |
| 17:48.14 | stew | Datz: this means that one of your sources in sources.list provides a munin package |
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| 17:48.28 | stew | Datz: i.e., not helpful |
| 17:48.44 | Datz | ok |
| 17:48.49 | stew | Datz: "dpkg -l munin\*" would verify that they are all purged perhaps |
| 17:49.23 | stew | Datz: but none of this really helps you actual problem |
| 17:49.24 | Datz | this is an error http://pastebin.com/6gPdKYeH |
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| 17:49.41 | Datz | yea, did a dpkg -l | grep munin |
| 17:49.43 | Datz | and nothign |
| 17:49.45 | stew | Datz: that's probably a conffile problem |
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| 17:49.57 | Datz | humm |
| 17:50.39 | stew | Datz: i'd start checking in /etc/munin/munin-node.conf |
| 17:50.41 | tux0 | DammitJim man urxvt maybe you are talking about "escape sequence" ? |
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| 17:51.18 | stew | Datz: if there was already a file there when you installed the debian package, it would not overwrite this file without force-confnew |
| 17:51.25 | DammitJim | tux0, I'm confused as to if there is a problem with how vim is set up or my urxvt |
| 17:51.35 | Datz | stew ok, I think I deleted that dir though |
| 17:51.38 | Datz | /etc/munin |
| 17:52.01 | Datz | let me install munin again |
| 17:52.47 | stew | Datz: likewise for /etc/init.d/munin-node ; if that already exists, it won't be overwritten |
| 17:53.00 | Datz | humm |
| 17:53.02 | Datz | ok |
| 17:53.15 | Datz | let me make sure they are both gone before installing |
| 17:54.01 | Datz | nothing in /etc/init.d/ |
| 17:54.38 | stew | Datz: you probably just want to make sure you install with both confnew and confmiss: /msg dpkg confnew ; /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 17:54.40 | Datz | and no /etc/munin |
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| 17:54.55 | Datz | ok, thanks |
| 17:54.55 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions munin |
| 17:54.56 | judd | Package munin on i386 -- lenny: 1.2.6-10~lenny2; lenny-backports: 1.4.5-3~bpo50+1; sid: 1.4.5-3; squeeze: 1.4.5-3; wheezy: 1.4.5-3 |
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| 17:56.02 | rhenani | Hello guys some with experience installing vmware tools in debian please |
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| 17:56.34 | zezikaro | rhenani why |
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| 17:57.01 | daemonik | I want to use jumbo frames. Is it possible to have a single physical interface use two separate VLANs, with an MTU of 9000 and an MTU of 1500 on the other? |
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| 17:58.11 | NTU | hi guys!!!!!!!!!!! <3 |
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| 17:58.43 | NTU | im trying to access ftp://pkg-shadow.alioth.debian.org/pub/pkg-shadow/ |
| 17:58.45 | NTU | but i cant, it says its down |
| 17:59.14 | rhenani | zezikaro: I got install the Vm tools but i don't know how i've been searching google but cant find a good tutorial u.u |
| 17:59.23 | NTU | and im trying to download "shadow" |
| 17:59.27 | stew | NTU: http://err.no/personal/blog/tech/Debian/2011-05-21-11-14_alioth_upgrade.html |
| 17:59.29 | NTU | the source code... |
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| 18:00.31 | NTU | thanks ill join #alioth |
| 18:00.43 | NTU | dead channel... crap |
| 18:00.49 | NTU | pardon my french |
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| 18:01.07 | stew | NTU: yes, its down, that is expected |
| 18:01.18 | NTU | so how do i download shadow, SPECIFICALLY |
| 18:01.34 | stew | NTU: you wait for the rest of the services on alioth to come back up after the migration is complete |
| 18:01.39 | NTU | oh! |
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| 18:01.46 | Datz | stew: http://pastebin.com/VLzhqA58 |
| 18:01.59 | Datz | or anyone that can help :) |
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| 18:02.06 | NTU | hey stew i know you and i have a history, and i just wanna say im sorry for that incident last year or whenever that was |
| 18:02.10 | Datz | that is with new config install for munin |
| 18:02.43 | stew | NTU: you can get the source via svn here: svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-shadow/ |
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| 18:03.27 | NTU | thanks stew. and im sorry for that time when i decided to "have fun with stew" |
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| 18:03.51 | stew | NTU: no problem |
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| 18:04.06 | zrin | ata6.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED - How can I find out which HDD it is (I have several of the same model, so dmesg does not help, is not conclusive) |
| 18:04.24 | NTU | zrin: 6th SCSI bus? |
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| 18:04.30 | NTU | guess.. |
| 18:04.46 | NTU | erm... the 6th ATA port i mean |
| 18:05.03 | zrin | NTU: I'd like to find out which HDD it is, which sdX, which serial number |
| 18:05.18 | NTU | oh.. eh im bugging out |
| 18:05.25 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 18:05.29 | c2pLaY | zrin: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 18:05.33 | NTU | Hi TrueDD |
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| 18:05.45 | c2pLaY | get specific uuid and you can throw that in your fstab |
| 18:05.53 | zrin | NTU: ata ports apparently also change numbers between reboots |
| 18:06.11 | valdyn | zrin: just like device names |
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| 18:06.27 | zrin | c2pLaY: how do you find out which UUID is connected to which ATA port? |
| 18:06.35 | project2501a | hey guys, what does "library versioning conflict" mean? |
| 18:06.48 | jordanm | zrin: blkid |
| 18:06.49 | zrin | valdyn: right ... so, how to find out which HDD it is? |
| 18:06.51 | Max00 | Hi guys, I just tried to install a graphic driver with the "module-assistant". During the first reboot all went fine, but then I got a blank screen with a prompt .. instead of gnome. Could you help me with this guys? |
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| 18:06.56 | c2pLaY | zrin: try fdisk -l |
| 18:07.03 | c2pLaY | or df |
| 18:07.06 | valdyn | zrin: f is the 6th letter in the alphabet |
| 18:07.08 | c2pLaY | see what kind of info you can get |
| 18:07.23 | project2501a | Max00: why on earth would you install anything with the module assistant? |
| 18:07.26 | valdyn | zrin: but your cdrom drive might be messing with that order |
| 18:07.32 | zrin | jordanm: same there, how do you find out which id is on which ata port? |
| 18:07.53 | c2pLaY | check bios maybe? |
| 18:08.02 | c2pLaY | @ zrin |
| 18:08.13 | zrin | valdyn: not only that, ata ports ar numbered als when there is no device connected, not so device names |
| 18:08.21 | jordanm | zrin: smartctl + dmidecode? |
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| 18:08.38 | ujjain | Is it hard to set up a e-mail backlog on a relaying server that can re-send e-mail? |
| 18:08.57 | Max00 | project2501a, google? forums? I don't know.. I'm pretty new with linux and I'm not get in use with the way it works |
| 18:09.31 | zrin | the problem is that the kernel message with ataX: blah blah is of no value if it can't be related / mapped to a sdX or scsiX etc. |
| 18:09.35 | project2501a | Max00: good. start with the basics. read the "Introduction to the Unix operating system" by o'reilly and associates |
| 18:09.39 | project2501a | pick up the 6th edition |
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| 18:10.21 | valdyn | zrin: ok, this is resolved in /sys |
| 18:10.29 | eb3ha4el | Which file should I open to edit gnome-setting-daemon? |
| 18:10.33 | zrin | jordanm: dmidecode | grep -i ata gives only "Data" |
| 18:10.36 | Max00 | project2501a, I'll get that in mind :) |
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| 18:10.55 | ReinH | Hi folks, trying to dist-upgrade, how can I get around "package uses Breaks; not supported in this dpkg" |
| 18:10.59 | zrin | valdyn: that would make my day |
| 18:11.01 | ReinH | currently on 4.0 |
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| 18:11.32 | jordanm | zrin: it doesn't put all of a device's information a single line |
| 18:11.54 | jordanm | ReinH: are you trying to go from etch to squeeze? |
| 18:12.07 | ReinH | jordanm: yes |
| 18:12.23 | ReinH | so I have to stop at Lenny, right? |
| 18:12.26 | jordanm | ReinH: you have to upgrade to lenny first |
| 18:12.27 | jordanm | yes |
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| 18:12.31 | ReinH | jordanm: just found http://ask.debian.net/questions/howto-upgrade-from-etch-to-squeeze |
| 18:12.35 | karlpinc | ReinH: I'd follow the release notes for each intermediate release. |
| 18:12.36 | ReinH | yay SE |
| 18:12.48 | zrin | jordanm: do you think dmidecode contains somwhere ata port number(s)? |
| 18:12.49 | karlpinc | ReinH: The release notes are more complete. |
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| 18:12.58 | ReinH | karlpinc: it links to the release notes, which I am now reading |
| 18:13.15 | ReinH | just letting you guys know I found a path to the answer |
| 18:13.19 | ReinH | thanks for your help |
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| 18:13.49 | karlpinc | !tell ReinH about etch sources.list |
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| 18:14.06 | karlpinc | ReinH: The first step is always to bring your current install up to date. |
| 18:14.13 | project2501a | !tell yourmom about cleaning |
| 18:14.25 | karlpinc | !tell project2501a about selftell |
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| 18:14.39 | c2pLaY | zrin: cat /proc/ioports |
| 18:14.56 | c2pLaY | might be something useful in there |
| 18:14.59 | kfogel | stew: thanks (re your "/msg dpkg usb-install" tip). I was on phone, so couldn't acknowledge before. |
| 18:15.18 | NuclearMeltdown | Should I do 32 bit or 64 bit on an Opteron system? |
| 18:15.20 | ReinH | karlpinc: I'm having dpkg tell me more info, thanks |
| 18:15.27 | NuclearMeltdown | What's best for gaming (binaries) |
| 18:15.45 | NuclearMeltdown | I'd imagine PAE doesn't work |
| 18:15.53 | ReinH | karlpinc: btw do you know what irc lib the bot uses (out of curiosity)? |
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| 18:16.09 | zrin | c2pLaY: I do not see ata port numbers there :/ |
| 18:16.12 | karlpinc | !tell ReinH about dpkgbot |
| 18:16.19 | ReinH | ty again |
| 18:17.11 | ReinH | is this warning expected? "W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:" |
| 18:17.21 | ReinH | (using the sources.list provided by dpkg) |
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| 18:17.47 | ReinH | gpg --recv-keys time? |
| 18:18.00 | zrin | valdyn: I'm buying you a big pack of your favorite beer if ... (there's always an if) :) |
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| 18:18.40 | ReinH | sorry, I should try a little harder before asking. sudo apt-get install debian-keyring debian-archive-keyring |
| 18:18.49 | JulianSSS | Hi there! Any lirc user/pro in here? I got the Streamzap RC. But irw does not output anything. mode2 seems to work fine... I'm working on that since 3 days and becoming a bit desperate now :( |
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| 18:19.46 | valdyn | zrin: i cant tell you the complete story because i dont have it. Run something like "find /sys -type -name sda" and you will see the proper number mapped. However i have no way to see if ataX really starts counting at zero or 1 |
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| 18:20.05 | valdyn | zrin: err, i forgot the "d" after -type |
| 18:20.17 | zrin | valdyn: ata ports apparently start with 1 |
| 18:20.41 | valdyn | zrin: scsi ports start at zero though, so that would give a 5 |
| 18:20.55 | rhenani | can some one help me installing vmware tools |
| 18:20.59 | rhenani | in debian |
| 18:21.32 | Datz | stew: nothing looks out of place in /etc/munin/munin-node.conf |
| 18:21.42 | Datz | stew: any other recommendations? |
| 18:21.44 | valdyn | zrin: somewhere in that hirarchy you can also see the device type, so all the info is there, but its not that straightforward to dig out |
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| 18:22.56 | zrin | valdyn: do you think ata1 would be scsi0, ata2 = scsi1 etc? |
| 18:23.22 | valdyn | zrin: that would be to easy, you have to filter the sata and the real scsi ports |
| 18:23.42 | zrin | valdyn: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.0/0000:03:00.0/host11/target11:0:0/11:0:0:0/block/sdi |
| 18:23.51 | zrin | valdyn: no ata port ... |
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| 18:28.37 | rhenani | Hello right now my debian operating system does not have a graphical nteface gnome, kde etc |
| 18:29.13 | rhenani | Every time i boot the machine it ask me for the username and password |
| 18:29.27 | rhenani | how can i change that trhough comand mode |
| 18:29.30 | valdyn | rhenani: what do you want? |
| 18:30.02 | valdyn | rhenani: kde or gnome or something else? |
| 18:30.10 | rhenani | valdyn: How to change it, then in the future won't ask me for the password and username every time i boot the machine |
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| 18:30.27 | rhenani | valdyn: No i want to do it trhough the terminal |
| 18:30.46 | valdyn | rhenani: you dont do it |
| 18:30.52 | rhenani | valdyn: ? |
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| 18:31.33 | valdyn | rhenani: you do not disable the console password prompt = im not going to help you to disable that password prompt |
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| 18:31.53 | rhenani | valdyn: are you understanding me? |
| 18:32.18 | innociv | I changed my http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/apt-get-upgrade-debian-lenny-5-to-debian-6-squeeze/ This doesn't seem to actually work for me. Can I not sudo it from a user that isn't root? I have root login disabled |
| 18:32.24 | valdyn | rhenani: not really, since your original question seemed to ask for a graphical interface, but now you dont want one |
| 18:32.36 | c2pLaY | rhenani: http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/04/30/autologin-linux-console-mode/ |
| 18:33.26 | rhenani | valdyn: 1) I just want twhen the machine boot doesn't ask me for the password and username every time, that's all i want of course i can do it going, to aplications > monitor > etc because i don't have a graphical interface |
| 18:33.42 | rhenani | fo that i want to do it trhogh the terminal because it's the only thing i ave right now |
| 18:33.45 | Kobaz | valdyn: so i have something more weird for you |
| 18:33.57 | Kobaz | valdyn: remember yesterday my data corruption problems |
| 18:34.07 | valdyn | Kobaz: yea |
| 18:34.25 | Kobaz | valdyn: yesterday i had a file in /usr/src have a md5sum that didn't match, a kernel module |
| 18:34.28 | Kobaz | valdyn: and today it matches |
| 18:35.06 | rhenani | c2pLaY: Thank you so much that's all i wanted |
| 18:35.25 | valdyn | Kobaz: thats about matches my experience with bad ram |
| 18:35.27 | c2pLaY | rhenani: the power was in you, just a quick google search |
| 18:35.43 | Kobaz | mm |
| 18:35.46 | rhenani | c2pLaY: Any way thanks |
| 18:35.56 | c2pLaY | np |
| 18:35.58 | valdyn | Kobaz: i mean, you load that file once, obviously your disk is ok |
| 18:36.05 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 18:36.16 | Kobaz | but it could be a slightly flakey hard drive controller |
| 18:36.27 | Kobaz | i'll run memtest again later |
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| 18:36.46 | valdyn | Kobaz: yea i guess it could be that |
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| 18:37.14 | Kobaz | i have a pci sata controller i can borrow out of a server i'm not using |
| 18:37.37 | valdyn | Kobaz: psu issues too can have weird ways to manifest themselves |
| 18:37.51 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 18:37.53 | Kobaz | but this is a new psu |
| 18:37.58 | Kobaz | which could also be flakey |
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| 18:41.42 | uwjesd | How can I set font size for the terminal? |
| 18:42.02 | GNU\colossus | depends on the terminal (emulator) you're talking about |
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| 18:43.34 | innociv | I changed my http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/apt-get-upgrade-debian-lenny-5-to-debian-6-squeeze/ This doesn't seem to actually work for me. Can I not sudo it from a user that isn't root? I have root login disabled |
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| 18:44.30 | jhutchins_lt | innociv: Your question is not clear. |
| 18:44.54 | jhutchins_lt | innociv: What are you trying to do and how is it failing (and where)? |
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| 18:47.12 | stew | innociv: you really should be following the instructions in the squeeze release notes instead of these |
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| 18:47.36 | stew | innociv: if your question is "how do I do this with sudo?". Can you just run "sudo su" to get a root shell first? |
| 18:47.39 | innociv | jhujhiti, trying to update from 5.0 to 6.0 |
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| 18:48.10 | stew | innociv: see chapter 4 of /msg dpkg squeeze release notes |
| 18:48.30 | stew | Datz: can you show the output of "bash -x /etc/init.d/munin-node restart" |
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| 18:49.21 | NiveusLuna | Okay. How do I make a boot floppy that tells the system to run off a CD/DVD? Someone in here pointed me to the installation guide, which has exactly nothing about how to do so. |
| 18:49.50 | boudiccas | how do i stop that irritating whiz of 'file locator' from continually running permanently please, its really irritating and is on a par with MS paperclip! |
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| 18:50.14 | justin_ | boudiccas: uninstall it? |
| 18:50.32 | DammitJim | are there any plans to bring transset-df back to wheezy? |
| 18:50.50 | boudiccas | justin_; but whats it called to do that? |
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| 18:51.07 | justin_ | boudiccas: tracker? |
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| 18:51.56 | somiaj | NiveusLuna: its a set of tools to do so. http://live.debian.net/ allows you to make a debian live cd |
| 18:52.17 | boudiccas | justin_; no its not 'tracker' as thats not installed on this box |
| 18:52.25 | afuentes | after successfully mounting a partition with encfs as root with --public and -o uid=user, i get a "Permission denied" when i try to create a file as such user. Does somebody know what am I doing wrong? |
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| 18:53.07 | somiaj | NiveusLuna: oh nevermind...didn't realize you wanted a floppy. should be able to just make a boot cd and tell it to mount the cdrom/dvd device as root. |
| 18:53.28 | NiveusLuna | somiaj: I don't want a live CD. This machine cannot boot off a DVD because it's so old. No, there aren't any bios updates, don't ask. I want to make a boot *floppy* that will tell the system to run off a DVD, because this thing can't boot off a DVD. |
| 18:53.32 | student | hey i have a question i recently reinstall gnome, but my network-manager is not working with xfce4, don't know what seem's to be the issue can someone help me out please |
| 18:54.43 | NiveusLuna | somiaj: It can boot off a CD just fine, but that does precious little when I'm out of CD-Rs and have no way to get more. :P |
| 18:54.50 | boudiccas | student; what do you mean by 'not working' please? what happens if you try to run 'network manager' from the command line? |
| 18:55.03 | NiveusLuna | somiaj: and the machine has only one cd/dvd drive. |
| 18:55.04 | student | it does not appear in the right bar, |
| 18:55.22 | student | i already did restart it with /etc/init.d/netwok-manager restart; |
| 18:55.25 | justin_ | NiveusLuna: It can boot off of a cd but not a dvd? that sounds odd |
| 18:55.40 | NiveusLuna | justin_: what part of "old" did you not understand? >_> |
| 18:55.43 | somiaj | NiveusLuna: shouldn't be to different than making a boot cd to a hd. Just google how to make a boot floppy. |
| 18:55.44 | justin_ | NiveusLuna: anyway, I don't think floppy images exist anymore, but you can probably boot using grub on a floppy or something |
| 18:55.56 | somiaj | NiveusLuna: sorry boot floopy. |
| 18:56.12 | justin_ | NiveusLuna: 'old' would mean not able to boot off of cd OR dvd. |
| 18:56.29 | NiveusLuna | justin_: it's a 1995 system with a bios from 2001. |
| 18:56.34 | somiaj | NiveusLuna: the biggest issue your going to have is making a kernel small enough to fit on a floppy. And it will need info on how to read the dvd drive compiled in it. |
| 18:56.39 | justin_ | I didn't think the bios even knows or cares that you put a dvd in instad of a cd |
| 18:56.41 | NiveusLuna | justin_: that qualify as "old' for you? |
| 18:57.00 | NiveusLuna | justin_: well. it does, because it can't boot off DVDs. I've tried. |
| 18:57.23 | justin_ | did you try a dvd image or a cd image burned onto a dvd? |
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| 18:57.34 | NiveusLuna | dvd image. |
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| 18:57.42 | justin_ | I could see a dvd image not working, I don't recall if dvds use the same standard for embedding boot images |
| 18:57.48 | justin_ | but a cd image on a dvd should work |
| 18:57.51 | boudiccas | NiveusLuna; sounds like its a cd only and not dvd too |
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| 18:58.40 | NiveusLuna | boudiccas: no. it has a dvd drive. i put it in specifically so it could read dvds. and it can *read* them just fine. it just can't *boot* from them. |
| 18:58.57 | justin_ | NiveusLuna: can you try a cd image on a dvd? |
| 18:59.17 | NiveusLuna | i suppose. |
| 18:59.40 | NiveusLuna | though I don't see how they're different. Isn't it just size? |
| 19:00.04 | justin_ | NiveusLuna: no, different filesystems afaik.. iso9660 vs. udf and such |
| 19:00.21 | justin_ | cd images contain an embedded floppy image that the bios boots, I don't know what dvd images do |
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| 19:01.46 | somiaj | NiveusLuna: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/index.html -- if you want to build a custom kernel/bootdisk for this, though I'd do justin_'s tests for booting first. |
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| 19:02.28 | justin_ | like I also said, it's probably a lot easier to just put grub on a floppy and get that to boot the cdrom |
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| 19:06.15 | gnarface | test? |
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| 19:06.21 | plastech | Hi Debain Gurus. Is it possible to run an X session without a display manager? I am trying to turn an old laptop into a photoframe using the program "feh", which requires that X be running. Since this is literally all that I am doing with the computer, loading GDM seems a little heavy. Any suggestions? (Yes, I am a noob.) |
| 19:06.29 | gnarface | what does it profit people to spam like e547? |
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| 19:07.18 | gnarface | plastech: its possible to start one without a window manager, yes. not very useful though (you won't be able to reposition windows and your mouse will be damned near useless |
| 19:08.07 | gnarface | plastech: but i think that as long as you can pass the window position parameters to the image viewer program somehow should be fine |
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| 19:08.22 | plastech | gnarface, that's fine with me. I'm planning on removing keyboard/mouse/etc and just leaving the screen. How would I occomplish this, though? When I run startx it loads GDM by default.... |
| 19:08.23 | jhutchins_lt | plastech: There's even a trick for starting that program in X if I can remember it. |
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| 19:08.43 | jhutchins_lt | plastech: X |
| 19:08.49 | Justin | plastech: startx loads the default X session, not gdm |
| 19:08.50 | jhutchins_lt | plastech: Upper case. |
| 19:09.13 | plastech | Oh okay. Thanks guys, that's super helpful. |
| 19:09.14 | jhutchins_lt | plastech: Make sure that dontzap is disabled though - that you can kill it with Ctrl-Alt-Backspce. |
| 19:09.15 | Justin | you can do startx -- /usr/bin/feh |
| 19:09.18 | gnarface | plastech: fyi you can just uninstall gdm and your window managers.. you won't be needing them |
| 19:09.28 | Justin | but the easiest thing to do would be to just write a ~/.xsession that starts just what you want |
| 19:09.49 | gnarface | jhutchins_lt: how do i disable don'tzap? i noticed its on by default now. super annoying |
| 19:09.55 | plastech | Justin, that's what I'll do, thanks. |
| 19:10.14 | jhutchins_lt | gnarface: You need an xorg.conf with dontzap=0 (I think) |
| 19:10.25 | jhutchins_lt | !dontzap |
| 19:10.25 | dpkg | In Lenny, disable termination of your X server via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace by placing Option "DontZap" "off" within the ServerFlags section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, see xorg.conf(5) or ask me about <xorg config lenny>. In Squeeze, zapping is disabled by default. "dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium keyboard-configuration" and answer Yes when asked if Ctrl+Alt+Backspace can terminate the X server; setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp |
| 19:10.54 | gnarface | neat |
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| 19:10.58 | gnarface | thanks |
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| 19:11.28 | jhutchins_lt | That factoid looks backwards for lenny, you'd want dontzap on. |
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| 19:11.47 | jhutchins_lt | ...to disable zapping. |
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| 19:12.44 | gnarface | aww |
| 19:12.47 | gnarface | but i like zapping :( |
| 19:13.06 | indigo_ | Yay, the latest kernel upgrade was painless |
| 19:13.07 | indigo_ | <3 Debian |
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| 19:17.35 | cutout | Hi am having trouble installing a package not from apt |
| 19:17.42 | cutout | can anyone help me please? |
| 19:18.17 | babilen | cutout: ossim-whatev? |
| 19:18.55 | cutout | I have searched and it seems that I need to edit a line inside the debian package that checks for a certain version of RRD |
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| 19:19.05 | cutout | babilen: related to it |
| 19:19.11 | cutout | called nfsen |
| 19:19.12 | iateadonut | anyone ever notice that data and fsys are the same keystrokes if you move your left hand over one? |
| 19:19.26 | babilen | cutout: Ok, give me all the information you have so far (preferrably in a pastebin) |
| 19:19.35 | Justin | the latest version of nfsen is a disaster |
| 19:19.41 | cutout | OK greate |
| 19:19.57 | Justin | well, 1.3.4 might be ok |
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| 19:20.19 | Justin | but the 1.3.5 barely works |
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| 19:24.00 | cutout | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612918/ |
| 19:24.15 | cutout | babilen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612918/ |
| 19:24.29 | Justin | cutout: that isn't really the correct workaround |
| 19:24.50 | cutout | Justin: please tell me what is it then? |
| 19:24.58 | Justin | the correct workaround is to modify the function that calculates the rrd offset and add a check for the new version |
| 19:25.30 | cutout | Justin: I dont even know what .pl stands for :( |
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| 19:26.24 | Justin | cutout: NfSenRRD.pm |
| 19:26.40 | cutout | here is a link to the deb file http://dudesblog.net/fadi/nfsen_1.3.2-2_all.deb |
| 19:26.58 | Justin | change if ( $rrd_version >= 1.2 && $rrd_version < 1.4 ) { to if ( $rrd_version >= 1.2 && $rrd_version < 1.5 ) { |
| 19:26.59 | Zoik | hi all - I'm wondering if anyone can help, looks like my server was targeted by some script kiddy and they gained access to the server. What I want to find out is how |
| 19:27.00 | cutout | Justin: what is that and where to find it? |
| 19:27.04 | Justin | that works as far as I can tell |
| 19:27.14 | Justin | cutout: it's a file, you can find it the same way you find any other file |
| 19:27.31 | cutout | Justin: inside the deb? |
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| 19:27.36 | Zoik | running 'w' returns 0 users even though I'm logged in |
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| 19:30.53 | gnarface | Zoik: its probably not your 'w' anymore. |
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| 19:30.57 | cutout | Justin: OK found it and edited it, how can I create the deb again? |
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| 19:31.12 | Justin | cutout: dpkg-repack? |
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| 19:32.20 | cutout | Justin: please be patient, I edited it by extracting the deb. is that right? if yes where to run that command |
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| 19:32.50 | Justin | cutout: oh, don't do that |
| 19:32.56 | Justin | cutout: just install the package and edit the file |
| 19:33.10 | uwjesd | nvidia is broken. |
| 19:33.15 | Justin | cutout: or just don't use the package. 1.3.2 is 2 versions behind anyway |
| 19:33.20 | cutout | Justin: it does not install |
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| 19:33.46 | Justin | cutout: it installs, it fails to configure |
| 19:34.05 | cutout | Justin: where to find the latest? I've been searching for hours |
| 19:34.37 | Justin | cutout: the nfsen website, just don't use 1.3.5, it's kinda broken |
| 19:34.43 | stew | heh, whoever made this package doesn't really understand debian packaging |
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| 19:35.51 | Justin | heh :) whoever made nfsen really doesn't understand web programming, so it's ok :) |
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| 19:36.03 | Justin | I've been meaning to fix it, just never get around to it |
| 19:36.43 | stew | $BASEDIR = "/usr/nfsen" ugh |
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| 19:37.14 | cutout | Justin: after edite should I run dpkg-reconfigure? |
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| 19:37.29 | eb3ha4el | is it possible to install more than one linux in same partition? |
| 19:37.31 | Justin | cutout: apt-get install -f will probably fix it |
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| 19:38.11 | cutout | Justin: same error :( |
| 19:38.33 | Zoik | is there a way I can run something as soon as someone logs in via ssh? |
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| 19:38.48 | innociv | Wtf? |
| 19:38.49 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: physical partition yes, use lvm to take that physical partition and split it up. |
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| 19:38.54 | innociv | It is installing apache and trying to run it |
| 19:38.56 | innociv | I didn't have apache installed |
| 19:39.17 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: what do you mean by physical partition? |
| 19:39.35 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: just a standard partition on a hd using the partition table |
| 19:40.02 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: lvm (logical volumne manager) allows you to take one (or more) partitionts/devices and link them together as a single logical device and partition it up |
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| 19:40.06 | alkisg | Hi, I installed debian / lxde but I didn't see an option to enable "contrib / non-free" graphically, did I miss something? Is the novice user expected to add those manually to sources.list? |
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| 19:40.37 | taglass | alkisg: use synaptic |
| 19:40.56 | alkisg | taglass: it's not available by default on lxde... |
| 19:40.56 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: you still only want one linux install per virtual partition in your lvm. |
| 19:40.58 | eb3ha4el | smiaj: would you say Gparted is one of a kind of lvm? |
| 19:41.23 | alkisg | taglass: no worries, I only wanted to verify that this is the case and I didn't miss some option in the installer |
| 19:41.26 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: no gparted is just tools to mess with/change the partitions on the harddrive |
| 19:41.47 | Zoik | is there a way I can run something as soon as someone logs in via ssh? |
| 19:42.15 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: I'll have a look at wikipedia and get back. thanks for help though |
| 19:42.16 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: another option you have is to have a base linux system run multiple virtual machines like with xen or vertiualbox. Since your going all linux openvz may also be of interest to you. But this is a slighty different. |
| 19:42.52 | cutout | it did not work |
| 19:43.05 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: yes, that's not the direction I want. It's too much for hardware. |
| 19:43.10 | cutout | maybe if am able to rebuild the package |
| 19:43.17 | eb3ha4el | *for my hw |
| 19:43.29 | cutout | how can I repack the .deb after extracting it? |
| 19:43.45 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: yea unless you want to just take that partition you have and repartition it into smaller partitions, you can use lvm to manage all that with software. |
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| 19:50.31 | Strife89 | I have a desktop running Squeeze at home. I would like to play DVDs on it, but I'm not sure what packages (if any are available) that I need. |
| 19:50.54 | sgeigerbot | cutout: perhaps dpkg-repack |
| 19:51.04 | innociv | Um |
| 19:51.11 | innociv | I updated to 6.0 and ssh was restarted and all |
| 19:51.18 | innociv | And now it's telling me my password is incorrect when I try to sudo |
| 19:51.29 | cutout | sgeigerbot: how to use it? |
| 19:51.35 | innociv | Nevermind |
| 19:51.36 | bzrk_ | Strife89: check out http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 19:51.37 | somiaj | Strife89: xine is a decent dvd/mediaplayer with menu support |
| 19:52.18 | Strife89 | tends to favor VLC |
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| 19:53.03 | Strife89 | Even Totem can play unencrypted streams fine, it's just the commercial discs it won't play. |
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| 19:53.51 | bzrk_ | Strife89: you need libdvdcss2, debian-multiedia definitely has it, not sure about main |
| 19:54.36 | Strife89 | bzrk_: The target system has no Internet connection. |
| 19:54.42 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: okay. I understand that there can be only 4 primary partitions in one HD, and only one of them can be made into extended one, and this extended one can be again splited into multiple logical partitions. |
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| 19:54.58 | Strife89 | Thumbing through the website. |
| 19:55.01 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: but why distinctions are made there? is partitioning logically and primary different? |
| 19:55.11 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: that is correct, but LVM is independent of this. Its a software layer that can include any number of partitions then allow you to split it up |
| 19:55.12 | bzrk_ | Strife89: hmmm prepare to use sneakernet then |
| 19:55.37 | Strife89 | bzrk_: Naturally. :) |
| 19:55.50 | Strife89 | Not the first time I've installed packages this way |
| 19:56.02 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: that is what you have to do if you just want to use the partitions on the hd |
| 19:56.25 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: back to wikipedia, i'll come back lol |
| 19:57.11 | Strife89 | bzrk_: That's the only package I need for commercial DVDs? |
| 19:58.10 | bzrk_ | Strife89: afaik yes |
| 19:59.21 | Strife89 | Excellent, now I'm eager to go home. :) |
| 20:00.48 | dvs | eb3ha4el: You're only allowed to have four primary partitions. You can have up to 255 logical partitions. |
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| 20:02.01 | Nebukadneza | heho |
| 20:02.26 | Nebukadneza | is it normal that i cannot set the MTU on a vlan interface? does it normally inherit the setting of the actual interface it is attached to? |
| 20:02.41 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: did you mean that lvm is more like software? which somehow manages and reorder them? like virtualization? |
| 20:02.56 | thewanderer1 | Nebukadneza: yup |
| 20:02.57 | cutout | Am really stuck hear, I appreciate any help |
| 20:03.28 | eb3ha4el | dvs: do you know why there is limit for primary partitions? |
| 20:03.30 | Nebukadneza | thewanderer1: okay, so if my eth0 has a mtu of 9k and vlan* gets all the packets but has only 1.5k i do NOT have to worry, right? |
| 20:03.47 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: it isn't virtualization, but yes lvm uses software to manage filesystems across mutiple partitions/devices or allows you to split a single divice up into multiple partitions |
| 20:04.02 | dvs | eb3ha4el: I'm not sure why it is that way. |
| 20:04.13 | dvs | by design I guess |
| 20:04.14 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux) |
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| 20:04.59 | stew | eb3ha4el: because the partition table is stored in the first sector of the disk after the bootloader, and there is not room for more than 4 |
| 20:05.01 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: yes, I looked into that roughly.. but i think what confuses me is.. I always thought partitioning is logical one.. like thing I do with Gparted.. does it actually do materially to physical magnetic disk itself? |
| 20:05.08 | ZykoticK9 | eb3ha4el, dvs the limit of four primary partitions is only on x86 hardware, other architectures don't have that limitation |
| 20:05.14 | Nebukadneza | eb3ha4el: the (basic, !extended) partition table is fixed length |
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| 20:05.52 | Nebukadneza | its max size is 64 bytes whereas every partition entry consists of 16 bytes -> 4 partitions |
| 20:05.59 | somiaj | eb3ha4el: lvm isn't restricted to the partition table on the physical device (nor is it limited to a single physical device). Via the kernel and software it allows you to manage physical partitions/devices and split them up how ever you like. |
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| 20:07.47 | sgeigerbot | ~debian snapshots |
| 20:07.47 | apt | ACTION tells snapshots to RTFM!!!! GAH!!! HELL FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!! BURN!!! DIE!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!! |
| 20:08.07 | sgeigerbot | apt: Times have changed while I was away. |
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| 20:08.34 | sgeigerbot | ~manual |
| 20:08.34 | apt | it has been said that manual is at http://www.ibot.org/guide-0.43.x.html, or there is no manual, ibot.org is gone, read the source. |
| 20:10.09 | sgeigerbot | ~snapshots is also snapshot.debian.org |
| 20:10.09 | apt | sgeigerbot: okay |
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| 20:11.00 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: ah.. okay I think it got that.. so primary partitions are written into actual material HD itself in its MBR sector, whereas lvm is free from actual magnetic disk, and it just somehow provide management to data stored in HD in software level? |
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| 20:11.25 | FilipeMaia | Can a user use a shared library to which it has no exec permissions (only read permissions)? |
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| 20:12.05 | eb3ha4el | somiaj: so it kind of play intermediated role inbetween? |
| 20:12.25 | sgeigerbot | ~wir |
| 20:12.25 | apt | When It's Ready, see also RSN |
| 20:12.34 | sgeigerbot | ~RSN |
| 20:12.34 | apt | [rsn] Real Soon Now |
| 20:13.16 | sgeigerbot | ~wir is also siyh |
| 20:13.16 | apt | sgeigerbot: okay |
| 20:13.20 | eb3ha4el | Nebukadneza: why is it 64 bytes? |
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| 20:14.17 | eb3ha4el | Nebukadneza: is it because of physical radius of disk itself? |
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| 20:18.33 | Zoik | obv .bashrc is run per user, is there one that is triggered no matter who logs in via ssh? |
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| 20:19.33 | somiaj | Zoik: /etc/profile ? |
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| 20:20.08 | sera | hi there I need help, I locked myself from my server using iptables -.- |
| 20:20.29 | rhenani | can come one here |
| 20:20.32 | sera | tried rescuemodus with a crontab for enabling at least ssh connections but it failed |
| 20:20.33 | rhenani | recomendme a good domain name |
| 20:20.40 | rhenani | i'm thinking in one |
| 20:20.59 | rhenani | it has to wear the" cloud's word" |
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| 20:21.04 | rhenani | cloud-something.com |
| 20:21.12 | rhenani | something-cloud.com |
| 20:21.24 | tensorpudding | why |
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| 20:21.32 | tensorpudding | this is off-topic by the way |
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| 20:33.11 | manolis_ | I'm trying to debiandoc2pdf the debian reference so I can make a nice printed copy |
| 20:33.49 | manolis_ | but an error occurs. |
| 20:34.19 | manolis_ | The error message says that the docbook was malformed, if I remember correctly, I tried it this morning at work. |
| 20:34.24 | manolis_ | any ideas? |
| 20:34.24 | boudiccas | manolis_; what error? please be specific |
| 20:34.42 | manolis_ | pdflated failed |
| 20:34.50 | manolis_ | and then what I said above. |
| 20:35.21 | manolis_ | I should have kept the log, maybe I'll come back tommorow with it. |
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| 20:35.35 | manolis_ | anyway, I wanted to know if anyone else has tired that. |
| 20:36.04 | manolis_ | tried* |
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| 20:39.01 | Nebukadneza | eb3ha4el: mh, could be, its from "back then" |
| 20:39.28 | ujjain | How come restarting networking does not work on Debian? It does not come back up, I use screen. http://serverfault.com/questions/272087/how-come-restarting-networking-does-not-work-on-debian |
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| 20:40.24 | gnarface | ujjain: did you try stopping then starting? |
| 20:41.15 | dvs | ujjain: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0; |
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| 20:43.10 | ujjain | gnarface: Yes, it does not work via commandline with service networking stop, then tart either |
| 20:43.13 | ujjain | let me try ifdown ifup |
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| 20:44.35 | gnarface | ujjain: did you install some graphical network manager? are you using dhcp? |
| 20:44.45 | gnarface | ujjain: are you using wireless? |
| 20:44.58 | ujjain | gnarface: it's a server. |
| 20:45.12 | ujjain | I have switched from DHCP to static by editing interfaces file |
| 20:45.22 | stew | ujjain: did you kill dhclient? |
| 20:45.23 | ujjain | service networking restart or service networking start |
| 20:45.26 | ujjain | willl only get lo back up |
| 20:45.27 | efaistos | is it possible to install gnome 3 under debian or is it still unusable ? |
| 20:45.34 | stew | ujjain: can you show us the interfaces file? |
| 20:45.36 | ujjain | but it won't get eth0 back up, ifup eth0 does work though |
| 20:45.42 | gnarface | ujjain: pastebin your interfaces file and the output of ifconfig -a |
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| 20:45.46 | ujjain | ok |
| 20:45.55 | somiaj | efaistos: /msg dpkg gnome3 |
| 20:46.06 | matte3560 | i need some permissions help guys |
| 20:46.19 | stew | ujjain: make sure dhclient isn't running as well because of #369701 |
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| 20:46.37 | matte3560 | im having problems letting group members create/delete files in a directory that has rwx permissions for all group members |
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| 20:46.46 | ujjain | http://www.codepad.eu/view/55079372 |
| 20:47.00 | ujjain | dhclient is not running |
| 20:47.06 | matte3560 | only the creator of the directory can create/delete files |
| 20:47.11 | efaistos | somiaj: thanks |
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| 20:47.44 | gnarface | matt86861: you need setguid on the parent directory. all new subdirectories will get it by default |
| 20:48.09 | stew | that shouldn't be strictly necessary |
| 20:48.20 | stew | rwx should be enough without the g+s |
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| 20:48.28 | gnarface | matt86861: you also need to set their umasks to 0002 from 0022 |
| 20:48.39 | stew | also should not be strictly necessary |
| 20:48.50 | gnarface | stew: it is not? |
| 20:49.13 | stew | gnarface: not for create/delete, they only need write access to the directory, not the files |
| 20:49.24 | gnarface | stew it is not if you can trust everyone to chmod their directories over to the shared group on their own, but this is not easily enforceable |
| 20:49.50 | gnarface | stew: yes but that still sabotages a shared development environment |
| 20:49.51 | stew | so far we are talking about a single directory |
| 20:49.55 | ujjain | stew: any idea? |
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| 20:50.12 | gnarface | ujjain: just run chmod -R g+ws on your directory |
| 20:50.32 | gnarface | ujjain: and then for good measure chgrp -R [shared group name] |
| 20:50.48 | stew | matte3560: can you show us the output of "ls -ld /path/to/directory" just so we can verify |
| 20:51.06 | stew | ujjain: i'd change allow-hotplug eth0 to auto eth0, though I don't think that is necessarily the problem |
| 20:51.09 | ujjain | gnarface: what directory? |
| 20:51.10 | gnarface | ujjain: woops that was for matte3560 sorry |
| 20:51.16 | ujjain | ok :) |
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| 20:52.35 | rhenani | Hello Guys some one recomend a domain name |
| 20:52.36 | kbar | man i wish i had ipv6 |
| 20:52.39 | rhenani | with word cloud |
| 20:52.47 | rhenani | it has to be www.something-cloud.com |
| 20:52.53 | rhenani | or www.cloud-smothing.com |
| 20:53.07 | rhenani | Something like debian or a software |
| 20:53.17 | rhenani | or a operating system |
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| 20:53.29 | kbar | www.cloud-.com |
| 20:53.32 | kbar | www.cloud-*.com |
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| 20:53.58 | rhenani | cloud what? |
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| 20:54.41 | Justin | rhenani: maybe you should figure that part out for yourself |
| 20:54.53 | rhenani | Justin: Thank you for the help -_- |
| 20:55.28 | stew | ujjain: i'd see if it works for "ifup eth0" but not for "ifup -a" for some reason, i guess. or just at least make sure that "ifup eth0" is working at all |
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| 20:55.41 | ujjain | =The issue is solved. |
| 20:55.47 | eb3ha4el | Is code area in MBR basically tells what file to load to any system that tries to load the device ? |
| 20:55.53 | ujjain | replacing something by auto solved the issue. |
| 20:56.03 | dvs | something? |
| 20:56.04 | ujjain | it's now auto eth0 and works fine |
| 20:56.08 | stew | dvs: allow-hotplug |
| 20:56.10 | dvs | -_- |
| 20:56.19 | ujjain | Yes, I replaced auto-hotplug eth0 by auto eth0 |
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| 20:56.37 | dvs | I guess the NIC is not plug and play. |
| 20:56.48 | ujjain | I dunno, it's a vmware virtual machine |
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| 20:57.44 | jonesst1 | esx? |
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| 20:58.06 | stew | (plug and play has nothing to do with this) |
| 20:58.15 | nvz | hmm for some reason my wireless keyboard starts out with the number pad in mouse mode for some reason all this time I thought the numberpad wasn't working and come to find out with xev it is, then noticed it was moving the mouse when I tried to use it.. heh |
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| 21:00.59 | Knorrie | eb3ha4el: yes, if you mean "...file to load from the disk device when trying to boot the system" |
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| 21:01.10 | matte3560 | I've got it working now (changed the primary group of all the users, and now it's ok) |
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| 21:01.17 | matte3560 | but the umask wont stick |
| 21:01.26 | matte3560 | changes back to 022 every time i login |
| 21:01.30 | eb3ha4el | Knorrie: right.. thanks |
| 21:01.33 | stew | matte3560: that's correct, its per session |
| 21:01.34 | gnarface | matt86861: you have to put it in each user's .bashrc |
| 21:02.05 | stew | matte3560: perhaps a better option is to use extended acls and default groups |
| 21:02.10 | gnarface | matt86861: they can change it at will. its just a convenience for them to set it by default |
| 21:02.14 | stew | err, default group permissions |
| 21:02.22 | gnarface | sterna: nah that just overcomplicates shit |
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| 21:02.32 | gnarface | stew: ^^^ i mean |
| 21:02.35 | stew | i disagree |
| 21:02.50 | eb3ha4el | Knorried: I guess OS installed in logical partition through using lvm cannot be booted when computer is starting up. is it possible? |
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| 21:02.55 | matte3560 | stew: i've only got two users that need to share the directory, so i dont want to make all that effort |
| 21:03.27 | ilembitov | Hi, all. I'm using Debian testing amd 64 with GNOME and every time I try to mount an NTFS external drive I get an error message, although I have installed ntfs-3f. This is the error message I get from GNOME: http://pastebin.com/Z3bdpddx |
| 21:03.28 | matte3560 | one is connecting by samba, so the umask is always 002, but the local user needs that aswell |
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| 21:04.57 | Knorrie | eb3ha4el: i've always been using non-lvm /boot and the rest in lvm, but grub2 seems to be able to read /boot from lvm |
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| 21:06.24 | stew | matte3560: but only if the other user needs to edit files, or if you are worried about sub-directoryes , not for just create / delete in the one directory, which you were originally asking about |
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| 21:07.05 | eb3ha4el | Knorrie: hmm... weird.. don't understand.. I'm using GRUB for dual-booting, does that mean data recorded in MBR of HD of my PC is GRUB file? |
| 21:07.53 | eb3ha4el | Knorried: well, rather location of GRUB? |
| 21:08.21 | stew | eb3ha4el: some of grub used for booting is on the mbr, more of it is in the space between the mbr and the first partition, and more of it is in /boot |
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| 21:08.41 | matte3560 | stew: the local user is for a bittorrent client, and the shared directory is where it will download to. then i have the samba user which needs full access to the directory (read/write/create/delete). since you sometimes have folders in torrents, subdirectories are also an issue. |
| 21:08.45 | stew | eb3ha4el: those are "stage 1" "stage 1.5" "stage 2" |
| 21:09.13 | eb3ha4el | stew: right |
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| 21:09.55 | Knorrie | eb3ha4el: random search result about this (very interesting if you don't fear technical details :) ) http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/GRUB.htm |
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| 21:11.20 | Arrowmaster | matte3560: why not just config samba to use the username the bt client is using |
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| 21:12.10 | matte3560 | Arrowmaster: that's actually not such a bad idea |
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| 21:17.00 | sera | anyone in here? |
| 21:17.03 | sera | i need help |
| 21:17.05 | sera | for real |
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| 21:17.12 | dvs | !ask |
| 21:17.13 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:17.38 | sera | ok so someone is in here |
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| 21:17.52 | sera | i´ve locked myself out of my serv with iptables |
| 21:18.00 | sera | tried the following without positive result: |
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| 21:18.12 | sera | removing bastille firewall config |
| 21:18.19 | sera | booting -> no ssh open |
| 21:18.34 | sera | adding crontab for every minute clearing iptables |
| 21:18.37 | sera | booting -> no ssh open |
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| 21:19.04 | sera | adding service at /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rcx.d removing iptables rules |
| 21:19.06 | sera | no success |
| 21:19.15 | sera | it was not eben executed |
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| 21:19.45 | sera | *even |
| 21:19.46 | daemonkeeper | How do you know you locked out yourself if you don't know what's going on? |
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| 21:19.58 | sera | i edited iptables rules via ssh |
| 21:20.03 | sera | after one change |
| 21:20.06 | sera | freeze of putty |
| 21:20.13 | sera | no service avaiable at all |
| 21:20.20 | bencc | I want to create a local deb repo for custom deb packages and use dpkg-dev. what is a good path for this repo? |
| 21:20.32 | bencc | /usr/local/myrepo is ok? |
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| 21:20.39 | sera | i´m using squeeze and ispconfig3 |
| 21:22.05 | daemonkeeper | bencc: For your local system no one but you cares, perhaps somewhere in /var/lib, /srv, /opt, /var/cache and so on. /usr ist most certainly wrong, from a FHS perspective |
| 21:22.50 | daemonkeeper | sera: So your question is now what? "how to get rid of the firewall" "how to fix the firewall" "why can't I access SSH?" |
| 21:23.05 | sera | how to get rid of all iptables rules |
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| 21:23.11 | bencc | daemonkeeper: I'll put it in /var/lib/myrepo thanks |
| 21:23.12 | sera | at boot |
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| 21:24.05 | daemonkeeper | sera: iptables rules don't persist over reboots unless you /do/ have a script somewhere which installs them |
| 21:24.31 | daemonkeeper | So the obvious answer is: Don't run that script. |
| 21:25.10 | jonesst1 | sera I have two scripts nat-fw-up and nat-fw-down, I have them in /etc/init.d and then sym link to the run levels |
| 21:25.13 | eb3ha4el | Knorrie: are these language assemblier? |
| 21:26.00 | innociv | I'm trying to run mysql_upgrade but I get command not found.. |
| 21:26.02 | eb3ha4el | Knorrie: the one in the first picture in the reference you gave me |
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| 21:26.50 | eb3ha4el | Knorrie: I think they should be binaries, but aren't binaries really binary? 1, 0? but they have many alphabets and numbers |
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| 21:28.45 | mick_laptop | can anyone recommend any inventory software? (like for servers+licensing etc.) plus points if it can do barcodes |
| 21:29.09 | eb3ha4el | Knorrie: ahh... it seems like they use 1~9 and A~F to represent binary numerical in compressed format.. isn't it? |
| 21:29.18 | valdyn | eb3ha4el: a binary is a binary because it is interpreted in a specific way, not because theres no ascii representation |
| 21:29.27 | mick_laptop | i used to use sf.net/project/inventory |
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| 21:29.42 | mick_laptop | but last update was in 2005 |
| 21:29.43 | valdyn | eb3ha4el: in a different sense everything is binary data |
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| 21:30.34 | sera | set up a cronscript with /sbin..iptables -F |
| 21:30.40 | sera | didn´t work. |
| 21:30.43 | eb3ha4el | valdyn: yes, that sounds clear. I just thought they'd express it in direct way, not ascii |
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| 21:31.01 | Arrowmaster | eb3ha4el: thats not ascii, its hex |
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| 21:31.16 | valdyn | eb3ha4el: its your viewer that expresses it, the file cannot fix your file viewer |
| 21:31.36 | eb3ha4el | valdyn: i understand |
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| 21:32.41 | sera | anyone has an idea? |
| 21:32.46 | cookiemon5ter | just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has helped me the last few days |
| 21:32.49 | sera | slowly i´m going mad... |
| 21:32.52 | eb3ha4el | Arrowmaster: oh I see, thanks |
| 21:32.53 | cookiemon5ter | i am really happy with debian =) |
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| 21:33.45 | Arrowmaster | sera: i dont think iptables is your problem then |
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| 21:34.57 | sera | hmm |
| 21:35.04 | valdyn | sera: -F flushes *rules*, it does not change *policy* |
| 21:35.21 | somnus | but -P changes policy :) |
| 21:35.27 | rhenani | Hello guys |
| 21:35.29 | mick_laptop | t\]566666666666666 |
| 21:35.37 | rhenani | can some one help me |
| 21:35.44 | rhenani | I'm using links |
| 21:35.48 | rhenani | in my terminal |
| 21:35.51 | rhenani | as a browser |
| 21:36.01 | valdyn | !tell rhenani -about enter |
| 21:36.09 | rhenani | but then when i go to a japanase web site it doesn't display the japanase character |
| 21:36.10 | somnus | hehe :) |
| 21:36.34 | sera | so what do i have to do? |
| 21:36.42 | sera | i want to enable anything at first |
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| 21:37.00 | Arrowmaster | rhenani: in a terminal emulator running inside of X or in an actual terminal? |
| 21:37.03 | valdyn | rhenani: install japanese fonts and use a terminal that supports utf-8 and use a locale that supports utf-8 |
| 21:37.07 | somnus | sera: what you wanna so? |
| 21:37.08 | somnus | do |
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| 21:37.20 | sera | somnus iptables locked me out of my serv |
| 21:37.26 | sera | anything is dropped |
| 21:37.31 | sera | any traffic |
| 21:37.35 | kfogel | is away: communing with sessile benthic fronds |
| 21:37.36 | valdyn | sera: reboot the server |
| 21:37.46 | rhenani | I have the japanase font when i open a japanase web site in iceweasel, chrome or any toher browser i can read them |
| 21:37.47 | sera | there seems to be a script setting it again |
| 21:37.50 | sera | that´s the problem |
| 21:37.56 | sera | and i dont know which one |
| 21:38.02 | rhenani | but not in links (whish use the terminal) |
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| 21:38.07 | eb3ha4el | Arrowmaster: Do they use hexadecimal usually in representing binary data? |
| 21:38.12 | rhenani | wich use the terminal |
| 21:38.18 | valdyn | rhenani: so you have japanese fonts installed, but theres 2 more things i told you |
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| 21:38.29 | Arrowmaster | eb3ha4el: yeah |
| 21:38.34 | eb3ha4el | Arrowmaster: thanks |
| 21:38.44 | somnus | sera: that's a bad situation :) |
| 21:38.45 | rhenani | valdyn: ok 1) Japanase font installed |
| 21:38.46 | innociv | http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/mysql-182/updating-mysql-5-1-a-503163.html I just upgraded to debian6 and my mysql needs mysql_upgrade to be run. I keep getting command not found. http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/mysql-182/updating-mysql-5-1-a-503163.html says to navigate to the mysql/scripts directory, but I don't have one. |
| 21:38.50 | rhenani | valdyn: Next step?? |
| 21:38.53 | innociv | Where am I supposed to run shell scripts for mysql from? |
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| 21:39.08 | valdyn | rhenani: use a terminal that supports utf-8 |
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| 21:39.26 | rhenani | valdyn: How do i know if my terminal does? |
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| 21:39.36 | Arrowmaster | what terminal are you using? |
| 21:39.42 | valdyn | rhenani: by asking someone or by reading the docs |
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| 21:40.07 | rhenani | I'm using the normal terminal |
| 21:40.27 | valdyn | rhenani: we dont know what the "normal terminal" is |
| 21:40.33 | Arrowmaster | tty1? |
| 21:40.49 | valdyn | rhenani: is it an X terminal? |
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| 21:41.00 | dvs | rhenani: echo $TERM |
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| 21:41.01 | Arrowmaster | rhenani: run `who am i` |
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| 21:41.13 | innociv | anyone? :/ |
| 21:41.52 | rhenani | Arrowmaster: rhenani pts/2 2011-05-25 16:39 (:0.0) |
| 21:42.00 | Arrowmaster | innociv: i dont use mysql but typically on debian i dont think manual intervention is needed when upgrading packages, are you sure it wasnt run automatically |
| 21:42.26 | Arrowmaster | rhenani: ok so you are running a terminal emulator inside of X |
| 21:42.27 | rhenani | dvs: |
| 21:42.27 | innociv | Mysql tells me I must run mysql_upgrade |
| 21:42.30 | valdyn | rhenani: those things dont really answer the question i asked, they only tell you which tty your are using or which terminal emulation mode |
| 21:42.39 | rhenani | dvs: xterm |
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| 21:43.04 | valdyn | rhenani: if youre using gnome, its probably gnome-terminal |
| 21:43.09 | Arrowmaster | rhenani: echo $COLORTERM |
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| 21:43.39 | rhenani | I'm using GNOME 2.30.2 |
| 21:43.50 | Arrowmaster | so its gnome-terminal |
| 21:44.03 | plastech | Does anyone know of a way to obtain the source to apt packages without having linux installed? I am running OSX but I am trying to obtain the source of fbi. |
| 21:44.28 | rhenani | Arrowmaster: gnome-terminal |
| 21:44.34 | Arrowmaster | plastech: there are links on each packages page in packages.debian.org |
| 21:44.42 | plastech | thanks |
| 21:44.54 | rhenani | valdyn: gnome-terminal |
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| 21:45.24 | valdyn | rhenani: great, now your locale: type "locale" |
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| 21:45.51 | Arrowmaster | just the first line from that is needed |
| 21:45.56 | rhenani | root@rhenani:/home/rhenani/Desktop# locale |
| 21:45.57 | rhenani | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 21:45.57 | rhenani | LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 21:45.57 | rhenani | LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 21:45.57 | rhenani | LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" |
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| 21:46.43 | vanguard | I use Ubuntu 11.04 currently, if I switch to debian, should I go for stable or unstable then? stable seems a little old (bzr 2.1.2 in stable vs 2.3.1 in Ubuntu Natty) ⦠|
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| 21:47.12 | rhenani | here i am |
| 21:47.16 | rhenani | again sorry |
| 21:47.19 | valdyn | rhenani: ok, your setup seems ok |
| 21:47.39 | valdyn | rhenani: open http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.html in your links and look up the japanese text |
| 21:47.42 | Arrowmaster | vanguard: use stable unless you can fix the system if it breaks from unstable |
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| 21:47.58 | vanguard | Arrowmaster: I am sure I cannot fix it :) |
| 21:48.01 | valdyn | rhenani: its 141 and prefixed with "Japanese" |
| 21:48.21 | vanguard | Arrowmaster: I guess I will have to live with a little older (but stable ;-)) software then |
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| 21:48.41 | rhenani | valdyn: I can read the japanase character, but in iceweasel |
| 21:48.46 | Ricoshady | where is the default location for the php session files? |
| 21:48.47 | rhenani | letme try in links |
| 21:48.54 | rhenani | valdyn: letme try in links |
| 21:48.57 | Arrowmaster | vanguard: you might want to use backports.debian.org too but there is no squeeze backport for bzr |
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| 21:49.03 | Arrowmaster | vanguard: yet |
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| 21:50.02 | rhenani | I can't |
| 21:50.12 | rhenani | valdyn: I can't |
| 21:50.23 | valdyn | rhenani: theres 2 japanese lines, one supposed to be monospace, look up both |
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| 21:51.25 | rhenani | valdyn: none of them |
| 21:51.34 | rhenani | valdyn: IN my terminal no, in a normal browse yes |
| 21:51.50 | valdyn | rhenani: what about the other exotic languages in there? |
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| 21:53.16 | rhenani | valdyn: none of them |
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| 21:53.54 | rhenani | valdyn: the arabic nothing |
| 21:54.15 | rhenani | valdyn: i see them like ****** |
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| 21:54.21 | Ricoshady | anyone know the default location for the php session on debian installs? |
| 21:54.48 | rhenani | valdyn: or as a normal letters |
| 21:55.23 | rhenani | like for example it says: arigato in japanase i see arigato but not as a japanase found |
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| 21:55.32 | gnarface | Ricoshady: somewhere in /var/ |
| 21:55.39 | rhenani | valdyn: just normal |
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| 21:55.59 | valdyn | rhenani: paste the output for "dpkg -l | grep ttf-" on a paste site |
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| 21:56.26 | valdyn | rhenani: did you manually change the locale *after* gnome-terminal was started? |
| 21:57.03 | rhenani | http://paste.debian.net/117984/ |
| 21:57.11 | prezes | hello. I looking 4 program 2 change contrast and gamma in my sceen. Can somebody help me please? |
| 21:57.24 | valdyn | rhenani: ok, that it then |
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| 21:57.45 | valdyn | rhenani: maybe iceweasel ships its own fonts internally as fallback or whatever |
| 21:57.52 | gnarface | Ricoshady: sorry i lied its in /tmp |
| 21:57.57 | valdyn | rhenani: you dont have japanese ttf- fonts installed |
| 21:58.18 | valdyn | rhenani: "apt-cache search ttf-" or "apt-cache search japanese ttf" and install stuff |
| 21:58.34 | rhenani | valdyn: OK |
| 21:58.43 | Ricoshady | I just wiped everything out of /tmp and the session still exists |
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| 22:00.25 | hochron | this command wont screw up my box will it?, python setup.py install |
| 22:00.28 | Ricoshady | ah, its in /var/lib/php5 |
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| 22:00.42 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 22:01.07 | rhenani | valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/117986/ |
| 22:01.12 | eptalon | If I wanna read external ntfs disks do I need ntfsprogs, or ntfs-3g? |
| 22:01.15 | rhenani | valdyn: which one do you recomend me of those? |
| 22:01.27 | eptalon | (talking sid here, they seem to conflict) |
| 22:01.53 | valdyn | rhenani: i have no idea |
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| 22:05.07 | hochron | I wont screw anything up using pip to install things will I? |
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| 22:09.36 | rhenani | valdyn: Ok I installed one Hopefully it works let me try |
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| 22:10.26 | rhenani | it doesn't D: |
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| 22:10.43 | valdyn | rhenani: maybe you need to restart gnome-terminal |
| 22:11.18 | valdyn | rhenani: i usually just install about all fonts |
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| 22:18.12 | rhenani | valdyn: how is that i check my fonts again?? |
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| 22:33.47 | gnarface | no mysql cluster package in debian sid? |
| 22:34.07 | eb3ha4el | what is logic gate? |
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| 22:37.00 | gdx_ | Hello guys i've got problem with saving&watching AV stream from rtsp camera so far i figured out this pipeline but i have no idea how to write proper one. gst-launch-0.10 rtspsrc location=rtsp://192.168.10.25:8554/test latency=90 name=s ! rtph264depay ! h264parse ! tee name=videoout ! queue ! matroskamux ! filesink location=sampel.mkv videoout. ! queue ! decodebin ! autovideosink s. ! rtpvorbisdepay ! vorbisdec ! audioconvert ! alsasink |
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| 22:42.27 | tux0 | gdx_ I think mplayer supports rtsp |
| 22:42.30 | tux0 | vlc |
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| 22:44.29 | gdx_ | but mplayer doesn't support vorbis via stream |
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| 22:56.10 | Miesco | Whats a good gui for ldap maintanence |
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| 23:04.06 | bzed | Miesco: depends on your needs. |
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| 23:15.07 | Miesco | I don't wanna use lat, uses mono |
| 23:16.31 | dondelelcaro | Miesco: I personally just use the command line |
| 23:16.43 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 23:25.00 | Miesco | dondelelcaro: What schema do you use for your address book entries? |
| 23:26.20 | dondelelcaro | I don't use ldap for address books |
| 23:26.37 | dondelelcaro | it's pretty much entirely used for authentication here |
| 23:26.47 | Miesco | I see |
| 23:26.57 | Miesco | dondelelcaro: authentication for what? |
| 23:27.02 | dondelelcaro | Miesco: for machines |
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| 23:52.44 | abdelkhalak | hi! I've put a Pentium II to use, thanks to debian squeeze, it's running gnome with 256M ram and 3 Gb HD |
| 23:53.24 | abdelkhalak | i need some light multemedia players as vlc crashes when i try to play a media file |
| 23:53.44 | abdelkhalak | any suggestions plz |
| 23:53.46 | DammitJim | is xine heavy? |
| 23:53.54 | babilen | abdelkhalak: Great! Is it one of those that you put into a slot? |
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| 23:54.26 | abdelkhalak | DammitJim: i'll try it and tell u |
| 23:54.55 | babilen | abdelkhalak: well, try xine, mplayer and vlc. I can't think of any lightweight video players right now. |
| 23:55.02 | abdelkhalak | DammitJim:i'll switch to lxde for better performance |
| 23:55.06 | gnarface | abdelkhalak: i would recommend ffplay and mplayer |
| 23:55.19 | gnarface | abdelkhalak: (note NOT gmplayer) |
| 23:55.25 | DammitJim | isn't fluxbox supposed to be pretty light weight? |
| 23:55.30 | DammitJim | mplayer, yes! |
| 23:55.38 | gnarface | can't get lighter than "doesn't have a gui" |
| 23:55.53 | abdelkhalak | gnarface: thanks: i'm using mplayer-nogui but i need a light gui |
| 23:56.13 | abdelkhalak | DammitJim:sure! :) thanks |
| 23:56.14 | babilen | abdelkhalak: Yeah, I would atually not recommend to use gnome but a lighter alternative such as LXDE/XFCE or (even better) a window manager such as fluxbox, awesomewm, wmii, openbox, dwm |
| 23:57.50 | gnarface | e16 |
| 23:58.06 | gnarface | all the way |
| 23:58.37 | abdelkhalak | babilen: thank you! i'm installing lxde now |
| 23:59.02 | abdelkhalak | gnarface: well said :) |
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| 23:59.38 | abdelkhalak | xmms2 for playing music |
| 23:59.50 | abdelkhalak | and mplayer-nogui for video |
| 23:59.52 | abdelkhalak | :) |