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| 00:16.42 | Barrett_ | any idea when squeeze stable will get a newer kernel, if ever? It is horribly buggy with Xen |
| 00:17.05 | Barrett_ | I have to update to testing on all of my VMs to get them to work right |
| 00:17.25 | dvs | ,kernel version |
| 00:17.26 | judd | (kernel [--release <squeeze>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases. |
| 00:17.32 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 00:17.35 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.39-1-686-pae (2.6.39-1); wheezy: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-5); squeeze-backports: 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 (2.6.38-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-34squeeze1); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
| 00:17.45 | dvs | Barrett_: try backports |
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| 00:18.51 | Barrett_ | will check that out to see how much easier of a process it is... I've also been looking into creating my own installer with the apt sources modified... can anyone point me in the right direction for that? |
| 00:19.17 | wols_ | Barrett_: squeeze itself will _Never_ get a newer kernel version. only way is backports or compile your own |
| 00:19.45 | dvs | squeeze-and-a-half? |
| 00:19.47 | Barrett_ | so I guess when I point to a "testing" repo I'm actually just on wheezy? |
| 00:19.48 | wols_ | Barrett_: /msg dpkg custom cd |
| 00:19.55 | wols_ | dvs: not squeeze :) |
| 00:20.02 | dvs | heh |
| 00:20.21 | Barrett_ | sweet, thanks wols_ |
| 00:20.44 | dvs | hates trick answers |
| 00:20.45 | wols_ | dvs: and I'm not sure if dds actually think the -half concept has merit. wasn't exactly a success back then either |
| 00:20.46 | Barrett_ | either my googling skills have diminished or these pages could use a little SEO :) |
| 00:21.23 | wols_ | dvs: btw, various people coming here claiming ath9k is still not up to snuff |
| 00:22.05 | dvs | wols_: I still get the occasional cut-off but it's still pretty good |
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| 00:22.26 | wols_ | someone claimed 57% packet loss earlier to his AP. on windows supposedly fine |
| 00:23.14 | dvs | ??? |
| 00:23.39 | dvs | Mine hasnt been near that bad with 2.6.38 kernel. |
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| 00:30.39 | rhenani | Has anyone had an experience with importing ogg (ogv) files created with recordmydesktop into kdenlive all I get is a distorted grey mess when I do |
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| 00:34.26 | jrabbit_ | apeprantly grub2 was installed without the cfgs |
| 00:34.36 | jrabbit_ | how can I most easily correctthis or boot? |
| 00:34.52 | jrabbit_ | I've got a grub rescue command line and a working laptop |
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| 00:35.54 | deego | Hello, I want to get the equivalent of dpkg --get-selections from the backup of the /var of an older system. |
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| 00:36.32 | Barrett_ | well, that works... I'm gonna stick with the wheezy netinstall |
| 00:36.53 | deego | But, dpkg is not functional on this broken system. how do I read off from /var what dpkg --get-selections would have told me? (so I can recreate the system on a new machine.) |
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| 00:37.37 | hydra | rhenani: no, use qt-recordmydesktop, also you can use xvidcap |
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| 00:38.34 | deego | (I did locate /var/lib/dpkg/status, but I wonder if I am missing something, and if there's a better-formatted source.) |
| 00:38.46 | deego | (Also, that file does not seem to list deinstall, etc.) |
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| 00:43.36 | rhenani | hydra: but in my brother's machine works fine |
| 00:43.46 | rhenani | hydra: in mine it gives problems... |
| 00:43.49 | LinuxGuy2009 | I have wireless adapters on both my netbook and desktop machines. What is the fastest way to get them up and working on squeeze? Do I need a non-free kernel and/or a firmware bundle package as well, like an all-in-one so to speak? |
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| 00:44.08 | rhenani | hydra: maybe because i have to install something else??? or i missing something?? |
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| 00:51.39 | wols_ | LinuxGuy2009: depends on the chips in the adapters. |
| 00:52.33 | jrabbit_ | damn grub2 |
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| 00:54.11 | wols_ | ad |
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| 01:09.09 | yagoo | I have this 'Accessibility' icon in the system tray. I can't seem to remove it. I feel dumb, stupid, ignorant and incompetent. Can someone help me and make me happy? I am handicap for trying to remove this handicap feature. |
| 01:09.18 | yagoo | (I really can't seem to remove it) |
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| 01:12.35 | Justin | yagoo: gnome-session-properties? |
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| 01:16.56 | yagoo | Justin, i believe i discovered a bug.. when i toggle on/off the Accessibility.. the power icon appears/disappears |
| 01:17.05 | yagoo | reportbugs |
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| 01:24.19 | acu_ | I want to compare two files what should I use ? |
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| 01:24.49 | yagoo | acu_, diff |
| 01:24.58 | liuyuan | Hi #debian, I get no response when I ping a website, but I get a resolv, at the same time, I can't ssh or http into my server |
| 01:25.02 | liuyuan | What gives? |
| 01:25.11 | yagoo | liuyuan, try using traceroute |
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| 01:25.37 | wols | liuyuan: possibly a firewall issue. and are you sure the resolved IP is the actual IP of the server? |
| 01:26.09 | liuyuan | I'm on a static ip, it's registered in the pool based on my mac |
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| 01:26.16 | SpaceAceJase | hey, anyone around? |
| 01:26.23 | liuyuan | when I ping google, I get 74.etc etc etc |
| 01:26.34 | liuyuan | but I get no pongs back |
| 01:26.42 | yagoo | liuyuan, traceroute will tell u what point icmp fails |
| 01:26.44 | liuyuan | The server worked for two months fine |
| 01:26.46 | wols | routing |
| 01:26.48 | SpaceAceJase | Oh god, I think one of the drives on my LVM is dying.... http://pastebin.com/V1LWcqDM |
| 01:26.51 | liuyuan | Oh good point! |
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| 01:28.08 | yagoo | SpaceAceJase, check the cables.. make sure they still very well intact.. |
| 01:28.18 | liuyuan | Thanks yagoo, I totally forgot about traceroute |
| 01:28.29 | liuyuan | It seems like it's problem on my unversity's end |
| 01:28.47 | SpaceAceJase | yagoo: I'll do that. Do you think it's more likely a faulty SATA cable than an actual drive dying? |
| 01:29.09 | yagoo | SpaceAceJase, well you said it ran perfectly fine. So i'm guessing it's a hardware level issue atm |
| 01:29.21 | jmarsden | SpaceAceJase: That looks like a "your NAS is not reachable" more than "one drive in a RAID1 or RAID5 failed" kind of message, to me. |
| 01:29.41 | jmarsden | SpaceAceJase: If you are using software RAID, cat /proc/mdstat should get you current RAID status. |
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| 01:40.19 | firespeaker | does anyone know if it's possible to put an ethernet card (specifically one controlled by the atl1e driver) in a mode where it treats a regular ethernet cable as a crossover cable? |
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| 01:56.51 | sickgut | ive apt-getted the nvidia legacy 173xx drivers but they cant load coz nouveau is loaded at the start |
| 01:57.04 | sickgut | blacklist thats it |
| 01:58.25 | infurion9 | well after trying for several hours it appears plain to me that autologin to any desktop for a regular user is pretty well cockblocked in squeeze--anyone mind telling me why that is? |
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| 02:01.11 | smallchange | firespeaker When I installed nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms it pulled in nvidia-kernel-common which created /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-common.conf to do that so I did not have to do anything |
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| 02:01.42 | infurion9 | wont work in kdm, gdm, nor xdm--kde? no gnome--no--xfce? no! |
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| 02:02.05 | infurion9 | so whats up with that? |
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| 02:02.56 | wols | !blacklist |
| 02:02.56 | dpkg | In lenny and later, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
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| 02:05.39 | infurion9 | what EXACTLY is the problem with a normal user autologging into x anyway? |
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| 02:12.26 | firespeaker | smallchange: what does nvidia driver configuration have to do with my question? |
| 02:13.31 | smallchange | not much, I was really talking to sickgut |
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| 02:18.16 | un214 | wols: incidentially I have fbcon blacklisted by alias fbcon off |
| 02:18.27 | un214 | fbcon resists ordinary blacklisting |
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| 03:04.25 | lfs | how to mount a windows partition on linux? |
| 03:06.59 | wols | lfs: like any other partition with mount |
| 03:07.13 | wols | ntfs or fat? |
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| 03:29.06 | phaeton | hi guis |
| 03:29.22 | phaeton | what cli irc client to all the cool kids use these days? |
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| 03:29.51 | phaeton | I used bitchx about 200 years ago, but i see that Debian no longer includes it for various reasons |
| 03:30.37 | Barrett_ | irssi? |
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| 03:30.59 | phaeton | hmm |
| 03:31.05 | dudz_ | weechat |
| 03:31.10 | phaeton | isn't irssi what bitchx was based on? |
| 03:31.18 | phaeton | or was that ircii |
| 03:31.26 | dudz_ | otehrway around i believe |
| 03:32.10 | wols | bitchx was based on ircII, irssis is totally independently developed. irssi is probably by far the most used cli irc program |
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| 03:34.02 | phaeton | wols thanks |
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| 03:35.03 | phaeton | i've kinda been 'out if it' for about 7 years. I've run ubuntu here and there, but it's more like another Windows... nothing like the days of running Debian Unstable back in the day |
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| 03:45.21 | firespeaker | smallchange: ah |
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| 03:54.03 | ProGenY | hi everyone .. using iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d .... gives me an error of no chain/rule/target match by that name am i doing smth wrogn ? |
| 03:58.49 | Rusty1 | ProGenY: there is a #Netfilter channel where you might ask as well |
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| 04:00.51 | ProGenY | thnx Rusty1 |
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| 05:35.26 | rajkosto | hey, when i SSH into debian, i get these weird accented characters |
| 05:35.29 | rajkosto | instead of colors i guess ? |
| 05:35.39 | rajkosto | or quotes |
| 05:36.44 | tonsofpcs | you have your encoding set wrong somewhere (or wheres) |
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| 05:42.50 | mplabs | Hello |
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| 05:44.20 | Matias | Hello |
| 05:45.12 | Matias | where can I disable every notification my system is doing? I don't want to hear any beep, it's completely annoying u.u |
| 05:45.42 | psykon | Matias: from the pc speaker? |
| 05:46.18 | Matias | yes, but actually they are system beeps, not a normal sound |
| 05:46.43 | psykon | Matias: you could turn off the pc speaker in your bios or your could unload the pcspkr module |
| 05:46.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: beep |
| 05:46.49 | dpkg | from memory, beep is echo -ne 'a', or aptitude install beep, or ask me about <bell>, <qotd89>. For the audio player, ask me about <bmp>. For the protocol framework, see http://beepcore.org/ |
| 05:47.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | probably want the bell factoid |
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| 05:47.15 | Matias | I just want to disable them |
| 05:47.23 | Matias | I guess I should unload the pcspkr module |
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| 05:48.13 | psykon | I always just prevent the pcspkr module from loading when I can't turn it off in the bios but maybe that isn't the most elegant way. I'll look into beep. |
| 05:48.58 | rajkosto | how do i add shared library path ? |
| 05:49.46 | Matias | oh, I found I can select "Use system bell instead of system notification" and set volume 0% on System Settings -> Notifications |
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| 05:49.52 | Matias | it works |
| 05:50.35 | Matias | thank you all |
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| 05:57.16 | rajkosto | i cant add dir to shaed library |
| 05:57.40 | rajkosto | either putting a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ with the dirname or just adding it into the main config file directly has no effect, even after i delete the cache file and run ldconfig |
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| 06:01.55 | jhujhiti | any mutt users know how/if i can use regex back-references? |
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| 06:04.44 | phaeton | anyone alive here? |
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| 06:05.06 | phaeton | (i don't have a problem, i'm just curious) |
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| 06:08.02 | jeeves_moss | has anyone here been able to get FreeDB working? |
| 06:11.10 | NuclearMeltdown | How do I update my environment? |
| 06:11.21 | NuclearMeltdown | I need to add /opt/atisomething/lib/ |
| 06:11.39 | NuclearMeltdown | without rebooting |
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| 06:12.46 | Some_Person | Is there a simple command I can use to create a file called ".nomedia" in every subdirectory of a directory? |
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| 06:15.57 | jhujhiti | Some_Person: for d in `find /path/to/root -type d -print0`; do; touch "$f/.nomedia" ; done |
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| 06:16.20 | Some_Person | jhujhiti: Thank you! |
| 06:16.27 | n1c0 | hi ! |
| 06:17.45 | unicstar | Some_Person: find -type d -exec touch {}/.nomedia \; |
| 06:17.47 | Some_Person | jhujhiti: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;' |
| 06:18.05 | jhujhiti | Some_Person: yeah i probably screwed it up ;) unicstar's is better anyway |
| 06:18.22 | v_v | find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 -I'{}' touch '{}'/.nomedia #same as jhujhiti |
| 06:18.31 | Some_Person | unicstar: Seems to have worked. Thank you! |
| 06:18.53 | unicstar | your welcome :-) |
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| 06:19.13 | Some_Person | "you're" |
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| 06:19.56 | n1c0 | is it possible to boot from ntldr a system on luks lvm ? |
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| 06:21.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | Some_Person: um, you just got help so you felt the need to correct their english? |
| 06:21.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | Some_Person: thats really rude :( |
| 06:21.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | n1c0: probably not, but if you install grub to the start of your partition you can probably boot that from ntlpoader |
| 06:22.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | * ntldr |
| 06:22.34 | Some_Person | Kamping_Kaiser: Sorry, I'm a bit of a grammar nazi. I did say thank you |
| 06:23.37 | adminewb | I need help with debian live image's boot capability: if my system starts up with grub 1.97, could I chain load to a 6.0.1 live ISO image written raw to a hard disk partition? Would it care about drivemap (which physical disk is first)? |
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| 06:23.47 | n1c0 | Kamping_Kaiser: it s not possible using a file like wubi or debian-win32 ? |
| 06:24.46 | n1c0 | wubi seems to create a file to host all the base system |
| 06:25.15 | n1c0 | if i can use a file like this for /boot it could be nice to load the root lvm encrypted |
| 06:27.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | n1c0: sorry, i don't know about wubi |
| 06:27.12 | Some_Person | Kamping_Kaiser: What's wrong with correcting someone's English? |
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| 06:30.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | Some_Person: its not necesarry, it was clear what they were trying to convey. correcting them is basically just showing off. in some cases it might even be a wrong correction, but thats not what worrys me so much. |
| 06:34.41 | dudz_ | necking up isn't nessessary but people still do it |
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| 06:35.20 | dudz_ | i asume atleaste, dont watch adverts (the news) |
| 06:37.07 | adminewb | If my system starts up with grub 1.98, could I the chain load a debian 6.0.1 live ISO image written raw to a hard disk partition? Would it care about which physical disk is first? (its partition may not be on disk0) |
| 06:37.33 | adminewb | If my system starts up with grub 1.98, could I then* chain load a debian 6.0.1 live ISO image written raw to a hard disk partition? Would it care about which physical disk is first? (its partition may not be on disk0) |
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| 06:38.04 | van7hu | hello, how could I know, what version I am using? |
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| 06:38.40 | dudz_ | re-install |
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| 06:39.44 | adminewb | van7hu, "uname -a" won't do it for you? |
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| 06:40.20 | van7hu | it just show linux etc |
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| 06:41.03 | prince_jammys | !version |
| 06:41.03 | Pulse- | I am a version 1.1.0 PyBorg |
| 06:41.03 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc) and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command; check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 06:41.03 | adminewb | version of kernel not distro eh |
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| 06:41.32 | prince_jammys | van7hu: also, lsb_release -a , if you have that. |
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| 06:42.09 | prince_jammys | oops, the bot said that. |
| 06:42.13 | van7hu | ah, yo thanks |
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| 07:00.04 | adminewb | If my system starts up with grub 1.98, could I then chain load a debian 6.0.1 live ISO image written raw to a hard disk partition? Would it care about which physical disk is first? (its partition may not be on disk0) |
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| 08:05.47 | discozohan | Hello! Can anyone say, what does that mean: "command 1 & command 2", if i run it from shell ? |
| 08:05.59 | discozohan | or where can i "man" it ? |
| 08:06.57 | ompaul | discozohan: sleep 4 & ls means that the sleep command will work for 4 seconds and then if it completes correctly (and why wouldn't it) that ls will then be run |
| 08:07.31 | ompaul | discozohan: if you have a script which terminates with an exit value that is not zero then command 2 won't run |
| 08:08.05 | discozohan | ompaul: so, there is no difference between "&" and "&&" ? |
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| 08:08.15 | ompaul | ah |
| 08:08.21 | ompaul | doh too early |
| 08:08.27 | ompaul | & is run it in the background |
| 08:09.06 | ompaul | so the first command gets run and while it is running the command line becomes free to allow command 2 to run |
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| 08:09.41 | ompaul | discozohan: it would be different to command-1 ; command-2 in that the commands would start almost at the same time |
| 08:09.49 | ompaul | not so sequentially |
| 08:10.05 | ompaul | discozohan: do sleep 4 & ls to see what I mean |
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| 08:10.46 | ompaul | discozohan: to find out what has happened you need to run fg to get the command you committed to the background to be seen again |
| 08:11.11 | discozohan | ompaul: yeah, i know that, thanks) |
| 08:11.36 | ompaul | discozohan: why did this question arise, if you don't mind me asking |
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| 08:12.25 | discozohan | ompaul: i just want to do something like: start command 1 - if it successfull - start 2 commands in parallel and wait for them, then execute one more script |
| 08:12.45 | discozohan | and do it from crontab :/ so, i am trying to get all those things: "&", "&&", and "wait" |
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| 08:13.31 | ompaul | http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/exit-status.html might also be useful |
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| 08:15.17 | ompaul | discozohan: this may be a useful link for you http://stackoverflow.com/questions/161252/bash-start-multiple-chained-commands-in-background |
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| 08:23.00 | zapadlo | Is this channel acceptable for OT? I just vacuumed my PC and RAM went up from 3GB to 3.46GB |
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| 08:24.53 | nkuttler | !tell zapadlo about ot |
| 08:25.17 | simonlnu | magic vacuum! |
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| 08:27.01 | minh | Hi everybody! I have a problem with gdm. It says "could not update ICEauthority file /var/lib/gdm3/.ICEauthority" - I already checked the permissions but it didn't help |
| 08:27.25 | cahoot | some bits got stuck in the dust? |
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| 08:27.55 | simonlnu | part of a stick got entangled in dust bunnies |
| 08:29.04 | cahoot | some slogan: This sucker increases your ram by 15% |
| 08:29.12 | simonlnu | hehe |
| 08:29.26 | zapadlo | Lol, must've been. |
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| 08:30.48 | gua | is there a generally recommended package in the repos for watching processes and restarting them if they crash? |
| 08:31.28 | simonlnu | a few |
| 08:31.47 | unicstar | gua: inittab does that |
| 08:32.21 | simonlnu | inittab is a bit limited for certain things |
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| 08:33.00 | gua | well there's restartd but according to popcon it's not installed by really anyone, and monit seems a little overkill |
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| 08:34.31 | simonlnu | runit can do it too |
| 08:35.17 | gua | ah yeah saw that also |
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| 08:35.44 | gua | hmm i haven't messed with inittab before but i hope it does what i want |
| 08:37.13 | simonlnu | may be what all you want =) |
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| 08:37.43 | gua | simonlnu: are there any gotchas with it? 'respawn' says it restarts something |
| 08:37.50 | gua | i do wonder how it knows when a process dies though |
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| 08:39.01 | simonlnu | not all daemons take to be run from init. i'd go research it first. |
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| 08:39.37 | gua | ah, alright |
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| 08:42.32 | kantor | hello, why is it that if I start the ping program (which has a SUID to root) as NOT the root user, and I use the ps to print the running processes, the effective UID displayed for the ping is not the root ? |
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| 08:43.00 | unicstar | qua: respawn means it will be reexecuted if was not seen in the list of active processes |
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| 08:45.33 | gua | unicstar: how often is the list checked? |
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| 08:48.46 | gua | i kind of don't want to totally switch to runit if i don't have to |
| 08:48.50 | unicstar | gua: exactly I dont know, but it is very fast ( less than seconds ), |
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| 08:49.11 | unicstar | and If it be respawnd too fast and many times it will pause that operation for a while |
| 08:49.41 | slooth | Hello, how do I see (and edit/customise) stuff that runs at runlevels? (kind of equivalent to Gentoo's rc-updat)? Thanks |
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| 08:50.23 | rajkosto | install sysv-rc-conf ? |
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| 08:50.55 | gua | slooth: yeah sysv-rc-conf |
| 08:51.05 | slooth | Thanks mates |
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| 08:57.27 | unicstar | or even rcconf |
| 08:57.44 | unicstar | rcconf is the chkconfig equivalent that is in fedora |
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| 08:59.57 | gua | i tried a bunch of tools for startup stuff and ended up liking sysv-rc-conf the best. seemed to be the most reliable |
| 09:00.24 | gua | also i guess people just use monit if inittab respawn won't work. so i guess i'll try inittab first and use monit where it doesn't work. thanks all! |
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| 09:02.27 | ismael | Hi! I'm trying to improve my boot times. udevadm takes ages probing my mouse (I get 10 less seconds in boot if I unplug the mouse!), is there something I can do to help it? (strangely, after boot, if I plug my mouse, it works instantly, no wait) (free tip: if you're using ext4, do check out the e4rat project) |
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| 09:04.31 | cusco | I installed prefetch and I started noticing little differences |
| 09:04.36 | cusco | but I dunno about your mouse |
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| 09:06.29 | somiaj | ismael: do you run a display manager? |
| 09:06.46 | ismael | somiaj: display manager? as in gdm? |
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| 09:07.07 | somiaj | ismael: maybe it is xorg taking a while to automitcally determine your mouse and that is the lag -- so instaed of using an autodetect xorgfile (Blank) you write a custom one for yourset up. |
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| 09:07.32 | somiaj | ismael: or remove gdm // and run X via start X, you'll boot faster but then have the lag when you run X |
| 09:07.39 | gua | ismael: you could install bootchartd and get info about your boot from that |
| 09:07.53 | ismael | somiaj: I used bootchartd to look at it. the log shows that udevadm is the guilty part |
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| 09:08.04 | ismael | it's very very early in the boot process |
| 09:08.34 | ismael | gua: already did ;) |
| 09:08.38 | somiaj | ismael: hmm, the days before udev it was fast enough..:D |
| 09:08.47 | somiaj | ismael: can't think of what could be causing the lag. |
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| 09:09.41 | ismael | somiaj: udev says something about mtp-probe and something that looks like the usb port of the mouse |
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| 09:10.15 | ismael | somiaj, gua: http://i.imgur.com/whbA8.png that's the bootchart |
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| 09:10.51 | somiaj | ismael: I get a good number of hits, "speed up udev" |
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| 09:12.28 | gua | oh oops |
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| 09:12.46 | gua | slooth: i actually recommend update-rc.d |
| 09:13.03 | gua | that other tool i had issues with |
| 09:13.22 | slooth | I completed the stuff I needed already. What kind of issues did you have? |
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| 09:13.34 | slooth | I just didn't want to manually remove stuff from /etc/rc*...etc. :) |
| 09:13.37 | somiaj | ismael: I get an archlinux wiki that says blacklisting/white listing the modules you acutally use to save down on time so it doesn't have to autodetect everything each time it boots |
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| 09:13.52 | somiaj | ismael: Seems a custom as opposed to stock kernel could speed this up. |
| 09:15.04 | ismael | somiaj: it's a mouse :/ rebuilding the kernel is going too far. And I'm afraid that if I blacklist the mouse, it won't get recognized by xorg |
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| 09:17.21 | gua | slooth: hm i have a lot of old things hanging around and a bunch of tools get confused with it. update-rc.d handled it all just fine. |
| 09:17.49 | gua | yeah. if that other tool works that's great. just i swear by update-rc.d these days |
| 09:18.06 | gua | alright i guess i'm gonna poke around with monit and maybe collectd for fun |
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| 09:18.28 | gua | ismael: new mouse maybe? :P |
| 09:18.42 | ismael | gua: no way :P it's an steelseries xai, pretty good mouse |
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| 09:19.12 | somiaj | ismael: well all I'm seeing is lots of reasons go to back to the old devfs (which I prefer myself) -- but it seems this problem is common on generic kernels and paticular mice and usually is to do with some logic in the module probing when udev is populating the devices // figuring thigns out. |
| 09:19.56 | ismael | can I write a rule to say "this is a mouse, don't probe further"? |
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| 09:22.16 | somiaj | well makes me happy I use custom kernels, udev is nice but there needs to be an option to go back to using devfs. Oh well |
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| 09:24.32 | somiaj | but looks like your common pops up with udev on various distros in the autodetect/load module phase, suggest are custom kernels and/or modify the udev initscripts/whitelists/blacklists to speed up stuff that hangs in autodetection |
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| 09:25.24 | slooth | How do I download only /var/lib/dpkg/info/*md5sums ? |
| 09:25.29 | ismael | somiaj: ok, thanks. I'll take a look at hinting udev that the dev is a mouse and nothing else, let it be |
| 09:25.41 | slooth | (from trusted source) |
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| 10:19.02 | silvering | hi guys, i got a little big of situation here, with slow transfer rate from one sata drive to another |
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| 10:28.07 | somiaj | check hdparm and see if your bios/kernel has set them up to full speed |
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| 10:31.02 | ham5 | whats the average transfer rate? isent there 3 different sata's (speeds) |
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| 10:34.00 | wols | ham5: unless it is a SSD, the slowest is fast enough for any disk |
| 10:34.52 | ham5 | good one |
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| 10:36.03 | wols | correction: any desktop disk. 10k rpm and faster might have problems :) |
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| 10:36.46 | somiaj | I need to get a 10k rpm disk |
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| 10:38.16 | thewanderer1 | woah... I've just had an error with name resolution (nslookup anything -> "(null): isc_taskmgr_create: no available threads"), but after a minute, it's gone. this was all after a Lenny->Squeeze upgrade. did I miss something in the manual? :P |
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| 10:38.59 | asdawe | hi all, how can i enable desktop effects in gnome? using debian squeeze |
| 10:39.18 | wols | asdawe: install compiz? |
| 10:39.18 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: what desktop effects? this is not Ubuntu :P |
| 10:39.22 | somiaj | asdawe: you mean install compiz and then use its confguration tool? |
| 10:39.47 | wols | !tell thewanderer1 about compiz |
| 10:39.56 | asdawe | well, i know about compiz, i mean desktop effects for things like transparency in gnome terminal |
| 10:40.41 | thewanderer1 | wols: yeah well, forgot about it since KDE has its own window manager for that... |
| 10:40.41 | somiaj | so xrandr? |
| 10:40.53 | babilen | asdawe: Not entirely sure what you are after, but "gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true" might be what you are looking for (you can also use gconf-editor) |
| 10:40.58 | asdawe | i don't have compiz installed, still i installed cairo-dock and it said it can enable desktop opengl for me, so i said yes and it did, so now i have proper transparency in gnome terminal, but i want to know how can i do that by myself |
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| 10:41.31 | asdawe | babilen, you are right |
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| 10:41.51 | asdawe | i checked that and it was set by cairo dock, you the man! |
| 10:42.01 | babilen | :) |
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| 10:43.20 | asdawe | maybe that option should be available in apeareance preferences, like in utotu uhm ubuntu |
| 10:45.46 | somiaj | asdawe: you could just use ubuntu if that is what your looking for....though I'm sure you give it time config options will get better |
| 10:46.08 | babilen | asdawe: Telling us here won't achieve much -- You could file a wishlist bug |
| 10:46.31 | asdawe | ok |
| 10:46.40 | babilen | somiaj: That was introduced in Gnome 2.22, if upstream meant to incorporate that somehow they probably would have done it by now :) |
| 10:47.17 | somiaj | babilen: ahh I haven't used gnome since 2.0 and I was totally disapointed in it.... |
| 10:47.52 | babilen | somiaj: Well, there have been a couple of changes since 2.0, but I don't use Gnome as well |
| 10:48.08 | somiaj | babilen: I'm sure more than one, this was back in 2001/2 |
| 10:48.33 | wols | considering the way gnome goes currently, what is the chance of getting another option into a dialog... better petition MSFT to GPL MS Office |
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| 10:49.35 | somiaj | wols: haha, though trying to see what gnome has to do with ms office. |
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| 10:50.03 | wols | well, MSFT is probably more amenable to your wishlist than gnome developers in this case |
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| 10:52.52 | khem_ | can somebody tell me where my personal 'X clients' are stored? |
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| 10:54.05 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:54.30 | somiaj | khem_: wouldn't they be stored where you put them? The package xinit contains startx wich launches the client. |
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| 11:01.55 | lord_rob | Hi ! I can't boot kernel .39 (Kernel panic : Not syncing VFS : unable to mount root FS on unknown block (0,0). Any idea ? |
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| 11:06.55 | thewanderer1 | lord_rob: I'm seeing the same issue here, but it's probably just some misconfiguration on my part :P |
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| 11:09.22 | Furai` | gtfo |
| 11:09.38 | Furai` | woot woo |
| 11:10.00 | lord_rob | I've googled and they talk about "update-initramfs -u" |
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| 11:12.16 | thewanderer1 | oh... you haven't made an initramfs image? update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.39-whateveryounamedit |
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| 11:13.47 | lord_rob | of course I did |
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| 11:17.22 | lord_rob | and it is done automatically when you install the package |
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| 11:25.51 | lord_rob | It didn't change anything (images were already present in /boot) |
| 11:26.28 | wols | lord_rob: debian .39 kernel? and if sid, wrong channel here: /msg dpkg sid |
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| 11:28.33 | lord_rob | thank for the info you wols |
| 11:28.41 | lord_rob | thank you |
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| 11:33.12 | ivh | I installed Squeeze on a ThinkPad X31 and it hangs itself when resuming from suspend to RAM. Nothing in syslog unfortunately. Any hints on how to find the error would be welcome. Oh, it worked before with Debian, also after upgrade to Lenny and Squeeze. |
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| 11:36.19 | tuxcrafter | please please fix libreoffice in debian testing to not have the but that exported pfds with the font corier cant be openend in acrobat reader under windows! this is a know but |
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| 11:36.36 | tuxcrafter | but i keep walking into it! |
| 11:36.49 | stew | tuxcrafter: what is the bug#? |
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| 11:38.02 | pharvey | any PPC users around? Having enormous trouble netbooking a PowerBook G4. yaboot works but then it seems Debian 6.01a's vmlinux is corrupt, I get "Can't read Elf e_ident/e_type/e_machine info"... |
| 11:38.10 | pharvey | netbooting* |
| 11:38.14 | tuxcrafter | stew: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35431 |
| 11:40.54 | stew | tuxcrafter: so its fixed upstream, but upstream hasn't yet made a release containing the fix |
| 11:41.02 | stew | tuxcrafter: you could subscribe to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=616117 |
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| 11:42.05 | tuxcrafter | subscribed |
| 11:42.32 | tuxcrafter | purging all libreoffice stuff |
| 11:42.37 | tuxcrafter | and forcing stable version |
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| 11:46.33 | nslutje | The past few days I've been trying to update debian from lenny to squeeze, but I keep getting an error. |
| 11:46.35 | nslutje | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 11:46.35 | nslutje | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.35 | nslutje | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 11:47.03 | nslutje | How can I update Lenny on my NSLU2 |
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| 11:47.19 | ujjain | Will dd if devrandom of /dev/sda1 bs=1m count=200 destroy a disk? |
| 11:47.35 | ujjain | destroy data on a disk?* |
| 11:47.50 | ectospasm | ujjain: lookup shred |
| 11:47.52 | nslutje | ?? |
| 11:48.10 | ujjain | ectospasm: My goal is not destroying data, my goal is understanding what the dd command does. |
| 11:48.12 | tuxcrafter | nslutje: did you check the dpkg output of /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_6.0squeeze1_armel.deb |
| 11:48.20 | tuxcrafter | ujjain: man dd |
| 11:48.28 | ectospasm | ujjain: dd directly copies data |
| 11:48.37 | joltcan | ujjain: I would use "shred" instead |
| 11:48.41 | nslutje | tuxcrafter: What do I check exectly |
| 11:48.44 | ujjain | ok, so the command should destroy data, right? |
| 11:48.57 | ujjain | I am watching a Youtube video about ZFS, but I was not sure about the dd command. |
| 11:48.59 | tuxcrafter | nslutje: see if you can get the info why dpkg returned an error |
| 11:49.00 | ectospasm | ujjain: it would, but it's not guaranteed to be unrecoverable |
| 11:49.02 | ujjain | would it corrupt data, etc. |
| 11:49.05 | tuxcrafter | nslutje: maybe try dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_6.0squeeze1_armel.deb |
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| 11:49.15 | ujjain | ectospasm: ah ok, :) It was for raid testing. |
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| 11:49.23 | Ticho | hm, how do i verify if all files from an installed package are still there? i can't find an apt* tool to do it |
| 11:50.12 | ectospasm | ujjain: for your case, I don't know that dd would read /dev/urandom 200 times, or just copy the same random block 200 times... |
| 11:50.30 | nslutje | tuxcrafter: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_6.0squeeze1_armel.deb (--install): |
| 11:50.30 | nslutje | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.41 | tuxcrafter | nslutje: there you go |
| 11:50.57 | tuxcrafter | nslutje: the package does not follow the packing guidelines |
| 11:51.05 | tuxcrafter | you can force the install (see man dpkg) |
| 11:51.07 | nslutje | tuxcrafter: Yeah... it's a little abacadabra to me :S |
| 11:51.10 | asdawe | Ticho, dpkg -L packagename maybe? |
| 11:51.25 | ujjain | ectospasm: well, purpose is doing damage to disk, to test raid |
| 11:51.37 | ectospasm | ujjain: then it should work |
| 11:51.49 | Ticho | asdawe: unless i'm mistaken, that only lists files owned by the package, as the package manager remembers it |
| 11:51.59 | Ticho | asdawe: i need something to verify that each file is still there and is unchanged |
| 11:53.01 | asdawe | Ticho, you can use dpkg -l package to see if the package is installed, it should have ii packagename and version |
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| 11:54.23 | asdawe | Ticho, like i said, use dpkg -L to list the files in the package, then ls each line ? is that what you want? |
| 11:54.58 | Ticho | asdawe: preferably also md5sum, size check, or whatever else the package manager stores for package files |
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| 11:55.49 | Ticho | asdawe: nevermind, it was easier to remove the package and install it again - it was indeed broken |
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| 12:38.53 | infinet | I have ipv4/ipv6 dual stack, the apt-get choose ipv6 over ipv4, but ipv6 is much slower. how to force apt-get use ipv4? |
| 12:38.56 | RIMAL | #fllod |
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| 12:42.47 | roger21 | infinet, just disable ipv6 |
| 12:43.20 | ompaul | !ipv6 |
| 12:43.20 | dpkg | Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) is the next-generation IP version designed to replace IPv4. Available in Debian since <potato>, full IPv6 support was a release goal for Squeeze. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 http://ipv6.debian.net/ http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/ http://www.ipv6.org/ #debian-ipv6 on irc.oftc.net, #ipv6 on irc.freenode.net. To disable IPv6 on your system, ask me about <noipv6>. |
| 12:44.16 | zapadlo | Quick question, whats the button to fast forward/seek in moc? |
| 12:45.15 | ompaul | checks the channels name |
| 12:45.22 | zapadlo | I know, sorry, found it |
| 12:45.52 | Ticho | microsoft office communicator has a fast forward button? :> |
| 12:46.11 | ompaul | checks the channels name again |
| 12:46.56 | infinet | roger21: It take some effort for me to set up the ipv6 for testing :( |
| 12:47.09 | roger21 | erf, sorry |
| 12:47.15 | roger21 | ;) |
| 12:47.40 | bzed | infinet: why that? where are you planning to get your ipv6 from |
| 12:48.13 | infinet | tunnel from freenet6 |
| 12:48.21 | cookiemon5ter | how do you get double tap as left click on mouse pad |
| 12:48.56 | boudiccas | cookiemon5ter; double click with the left mouse button |
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| 12:49.26 | infinet | heard a lot about ipv6 recently, just want try it out. set it up on the home gateway machine, and the rest of home lan get ipv6 address automatically, it is cool! |
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| 13:02.58 | makoto | hey. i can't get my modem to work, its dropping "pppd[2234]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests" when i call pppd, what is it and how do i fix it? |
| 13:02.59 | xvilka | hi! i'm installing 6.0 into qemu-kvm on server - and it start with graphics mode - how i can run installation with only console mode? |
| 13:03.08 | xvilka | from netinstall cd |
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| 13:15.02 | wols | xvilka: netinst ask you on the boot menu if you want a graphical or a console install |
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| 13:22.42 | makoto | hey. i can't get my modem to work, its dropping "pppd[2234]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests" when i call pppd, what is it and how do i fix it? |
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| 13:23.52 | hal000 | is it correct if I use " rescue mode" on lenny to start lenny as a live cd |
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| 13:28.26 | wols | hal000: no. you cannot use a debian install cd as a live cd |
| 13:28.36 | wols | makoto: what modem is it? |
| 13:28.52 | wols | hal000: what are you trying to do? |
| 13:28.55 | hal000 | thx wols |
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| 13:29.40 | hal000 | wols I started now my computer with windows live cd. Actually i try to delete this folder on my NTFS partition: /$TxfLog in ~/$Extend/$RmMetadata |
| 13:29.47 | hal000 | but I cant find it in C:/ |
| 13:30.23 | wols | how was that directory created? |
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| 13:31.03 | hal000 | Iam not sure if it even exists, but I was recommended to find it and delete it since my windows does not start anymore and shows a certain error |
| 13:31.05 | wols | these directories are created by windows and needed by windows |
| 13:31.28 | wols | http://fixunix.com/storage/385781-xp-install-$txf-$txflog-$extend%5C$rmmetadata.html |
| 13:31.55 | wols | debian rescue mode is there to rescue a debian installation. if you want a live cd, get a debian live cd |
| 13:32.39 | ompaul | C:/ ??? |
| 13:32.52 | ompaul | loses it |
| 13:33.24 | wols | ompaul: windows can use forward slashes for quite some time now |
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| 13:33.52 | ompaul | I wish it would curl up in a ball and ... |
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| 13:34.24 | wols | hands ompaul a wakizashi so he can commit honorable seppuku |
| 13:34.36 | ompaul | on the windows gladly |
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| 13:37.44 | lord_rob | thinks a live CD is better for rescueing |
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| 13:44.48 | luxor | hi here |
| 13:45.06 | luxor | i'm new to debian and trying to install nvidia driver for my 9800GT |
| 13:45.28 | luxor | i can see i need nvidia-kernel-common but the package is not available |
| 13:45.40 | luxor | can you provide me more info about that please ? |
| 13:45.48 | ompaul | !nvidia |
| 13:45.48 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. See <nvidia lenny> for oldstable. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:46.22 | luxor | thanks dpkg, i read this tuto |
| 13:46.32 | luxor | it need to install nvidia-kernel-common |
| 13:46.37 | luxor | but not available |
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| 13:51.09 | sidh | Greetings |
| 13:51.28 | wols | luxor: build your own. /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 13:52.58 | luxor | i am sorry wols but i don't understand your answer |
| 13:53.14 | wols | luxor: then you shouldn't run testing or sid I guess |
| 13:53.36 | luxor | i am not on testing ^^ |
| 13:53.40 | cwg | I'm wondering if I'm daft for being tempted by the Zen Kernel... since I'm using Debian (via #!) for stability, and now thinking about trying a more bleeding edge kernel :). Does sound faster since I'm not running a server though. Any thoughts? |
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| 13:54.07 | wols | cwg: what makes you think a newer kernel is faster? |
| 13:54.33 | thewanderer1 | newer kernels are usually slower, actually - check out Phoronix :P |
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| 13:59.18 | sidh | I would need your advice : I have a debian dedicated (hosted) KVM server, or the moment , it as this /etc/network/interfaces configuration : http://pastealacon.com/27629 (I use a bridge for the 10.0.0.0 network because all my kvm guest have private lan IP). Now I have to add a new public IP to the host and according to me , it doesn't need a new bridge, since only a new dummy interface could do the job isn't it. but as it is a dedicated server I would like to |
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| 14:03.03 | atan | The default theme installed with webmin wasn't bad but I touched the setting in the web GUI and now it's back to being ugly as hell again. Anyone know what the default theme was? |
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| 14:03.42 | daemonkeeper | Webmin?? |
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| 14:03.46 | bzed | atan: just don't use webmin. that was removed from debian for serurity reasons long time ago. |
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| 14:04.10 | daemonkeeper | Indeed. Since Sarge |
| 14:04.18 | atan | I noticed there was none in the packages. What went wrong with it |
| 14:04.32 | daemonkeeper | !webmin |
| 14:04.33 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 14:04.57 | atan | Hmm, free whcp? |
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| 14:05.09 | daemonkeeper | dpkg: tell atan aout free whcp |
| 14:05.21 | daemonkeeper | dpkg: tell atan about free whcp |
| 14:06.27 | vick | Hello. I am trying to erlc however it states function abc is undefined. I have an -export([abc/0]). and abc is defined in that same file. [What is confusing further, is that this code is on svn, it compiles normally on one machine, but on another -- with the same erlang version it gives me this error, however this machine is a virtual machine if it makes any difference] |
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| 14:07.41 | wols | vick: /msg alis list *erlang* |
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| 14:08.24 | daemonkeeper | Erlang is more like a disease than a programming language. |
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| 14:08.34 | m3asmi | whereis the java policy file |
| 14:08.37 | boudiccas | there is probably a simple answer to this although its hard to explain! I've added konqueror to the file opening when you right-click a file, but even when i open a file from konqueror it opens a new window of one. How do i get it to stay focused on open instance and not keep spawning other windows please? This is with KDE 4.4.5 under debian 6 |
| 14:09.04 | vick | daemonkeeper, Why ? :) |
| 14:09.14 | vick | wols, I just noticed i am in the wrong place. Sorry about that. |
| 14:09.21 | wols | np |
| 14:09.24 | daemonkeeper | m3asmi: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/ |
| 14:10.20 | atan | Thank you for the info on webmin. I suppose it's not needed for what I am doing anyway. Are there any tools (or even a guide would be cool) to help me manage users? I'm trying to get a small apache box going and want to limit users from taking down the server. I suppose so if they run something they can only use 50% of the available CPU or something to prevent 1 user (and anything running as |
| 14:10.20 | atan | them) from killing the box |
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| 14:10.40 | daemonkeeper | vick: I dislike functional languages in general. The horrible syntax may support this fact. This is, however, OT here. |
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| 14:14.15 | doublehp | i want root to talk with root ( using talk(1) ) , it does not work; i remember that root has some flag defaulted to disabled, that should be enabled to allow talking ... who remember what's that flag ? |
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| 14:15.24 | thewanderer1 | doublehp: `mesg y` |
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| 14:15.34 | NuclearMeltdown | It would be a shame for me to have to reformat my debian and install ubuntu just so I can follow this stupid guide where certain ATI drivers have to installed |
| 14:16.14 | NuclearMeltdown | http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=7514.0 the tfirst couple steps |
| 14:16.22 | NuclearMeltdown | is away for a bit |
| 14:19.13 | atan | Oh scratch that, found limits.conf. |
| 14:19.46 | atan | Is there anything special I need to know about limits.conf? I assume I could use this to limit apache from going crazy and such? |
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| 14:21.42 | daemonkeeper | limits.conf(5) |
| 14:22.07 | daemonkeeper | For Apache that's perhaps not that useful unless you are using suexec or something like that |
| 14:22.08 | doublehp | thewanderer1: thanks |
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| 14:22.27 | thewanderer1 | limits don't really protect from monopolizing the CPU |
| 14:22.27 | atan | I think my interest in it would be to watch for high CPU use and force them to wait/slow down |
| 14:22.52 | thewanderer1 | atan: the preferred solution nowadays is using cgroups to balance CPU assignment (cpu units) |
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| 14:23.05 | atan | I best look in to this. |
| 14:23.06 | thewanderer1 | cgroup-bin contains a neat tool to do that |
| 14:23.20 | daemonkeeper | There is no "them". Apache runs as single user unless you took your configuration serious. |
| 14:23.44 | thewanderer1 | yeah, as daemonkeeper says, you have to make users' workload work as their UID |
| 14:23.53 | doublehp | thewanderer1: even with mesg y, it does not work: << Error on read from talk daemon: Connection refused >> . any clue ? missing inted service ? |
| 14:23.56 | atan | daemonkeeper, each virtualhost should run as a user if I get my way |
| 14:23.56 | Worm | hello, I'm trying to reduce the load average when I compile a large software... Even though I use "make -j1 -l1" load average increases up to 3 when linking... Is they any way to nice this process so it has the least priority ? |
| 14:24.23 | thewanderer1 | doublehp: err, try write(1) instead of talk |
| 14:25.07 | daemonkeeper | atan: I hope for you, you do ;) |
| 14:25.14 | thewanderer1 | Worm, you can use nice(1) to launch the make process - ionice(1) also helps, because many bottlenecks of today's systems are I/O |
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| 14:26.19 | doublehp | thewanderer1: write works ; why does talk refuse to work ? |
| 14:26.27 | thewanderer1 | doublehp: no idea at all :P |
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| 14:27.55 | doublehp | thewanderer1: missing daemon talkd - installing package :) |
| 14:28.11 | Worm | already tried nice but didn't know about ionice, gonna check that |
| 14:28.22 | lord_rob | Purging .39 package then reinstalling it solved the problem |
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| 14:41.51 | CuBe0wL | hi all! has anything changed in debian testing kernel regarding of joystick/gamepad handling in 2.6.38-2 compared to 2.6.32 ? |
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| 14:42.30 | CuBe0wL | because 2.6.38 does not recognise my gamepad, in 2.6.32 it works out of the box |
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| 14:43.44 | CuBe0wL | in 2.6.32, the system created the node for USB GAMEPAD 8116 (/dev/input/js0), but 2.6.38 does not |
| 14:43.52 | daemonkeeper | Apparently it did then. |
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| 14:44.28 | CuBe0wL | yes, I can use it now, but in 2.6.38 it's not there |
| 14:44.30 | wols | CuBe0wL: check what kernel module drove it and load it manually |
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| 14:47.04 | CuBe0wL | wols, that might solve my problem, but not permanently. because if I plug the gamepad in while running 2.6.32, it just works, so something is either missing or broken in 2.6.38, because it's not working there |
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| 14:48.50 | ^DEMOSS | i find problem in my debian whith NFS-common |
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| 14:49.21 | ^DEMOSS | i setup br0 them i setup manual in conf file the l0 interface |
| 14:49.38 | ^DEMOSS | now my debian squeeze starting normal again ) |
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| 14:50.24 | wols | CuBe0wL: you know where backports come from? |
| 14:50.36 | CuBe0wL | umm.. no |
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| 14:50.50 | wols | it's from testing. it's a given it has bugs |
| 14:51.15 | wols | any special reason you need 2.6.38? |
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| 14:51.42 | CuBe0wL | the "magic patch" ? |
| 14:52.06 | CuBe0wL | however, I didn't find it so useful... maybe when I compile maps (q3map2) |
| 14:52.15 | wols | CuBe0wL: I doubt you'd ever notice or experience that one |
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| 14:52.44 | guylhem | hello ! |
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| 14:53.14 | guylhem | anyone with an experience of debian squeeze/amd64 on a macbook 5,1 to help me with the boot process ? |
| 14:53.22 | CuBe0wL | oh, I have a reason tho: mupen64plus has sound in 2.6.38, but not in 2.6.32 |
| 14:53.35 | guylhem | I've tried all the suggested kernel and grub lines from all the forums and pages I could find, including the debian guide |
| 14:53.36 | wols | CuBe0wL: never ask to ask |
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| 14:53.50 | CuBe0wL | heh |
| 14:54.00 | guylhem | The best I gest is *sometimes* a correct boot with garbled video. |
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| 14:54.13 | guylhem | I wish I could at least ssh to the machine |
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| 14:54.32 | CuBe0wL | anyway, where and how should I report this bug? I'm afraid I won't be able to provide any useful information, apart "it does not work" |
| 14:54.33 | wols | guylhem: don't use framebuffer? |
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| 14:55.07 | CuBe0wL | I'll try modprobe joydev, but I'm not holding my breath back that it'll work |
| 14:55.08 | guylhem | I've tried video=efifb agp=off, then no video arg at all - didn't help |
| 14:55.21 | guylhem | I guess it's related to grub2efi |
| 14:55.36 | guylhem | but that's the only parts that works reliably :-/ |
| 14:56.06 | CuBe0wL | brb, rebooting to 2.6.38 |
| 14:56.33 | ePax | How do i save iptables in debian. |
| 14:56.35 | guylhem | wols : do you use insmod line for the video? |
| 14:57.05 | wols | guylhem: video=efifb doesn't look like "do not use framebuffer" does it? |
| 14:57.17 | wols | !nofb |
| 14:57.17 | dpkg | To disable framebuffer use at Debian installation time, supply the "fb=false" (d-i) or "video=vga16:off" (kernel) boot options. |
| 14:57.26 | kalyplato | ePax, try man iptables |
| 14:57.31 | guylhem | wols : once sec I'm trying with nofb then |
| 14:57.44 | guylhem | I though no video= arguments resulted in no fb |
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| 14:59.04 | Worm | thewanderer1: tried ionice -c 2 -n 7 make -j1 -l1 and ionice -c 3 make -j1 -l1 but it doesnt seem to help much |
| 14:59.40 | guylhem | wols: great !! it's got no video but *at least* it's booting and I can ssh !! thank you1! |
| 15:00.21 | guylhem | wols: might I ask you some help to get some kind of video? I'm not into X - pure text mode is just fine. |
| 15:01.22 | vick | It's a bit offtopic, but i am ./configure'ing a project, and it has --fno-rtti within it, any idea how to make RTTI enabled ? |
| 15:02.39 | guylhem | current /proc/cmdline : BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 root=/dev/sda2 video=nofb reboot=pci |
| 15:02.59 | guylhem | vick: did you try --enable-rtti ? |
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| 15:03.22 | guylhem | vick: also CFLAGS=xxx ./configure might override the --fno-rtti cflags |
| 15:03.35 | guylhem | in the worst case, edit Makefiles and cut that bad flag out |
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| 15:03.51 | wols | guylhem: not sure. macs are simple PCs with EFI, so why it has no video I dunno. I'd say play around with video= |
| 15:04.03 | guylhem | ok never mind. |
| 15:04.29 | wols | guylhem: also see man rdev to set default. then you mustn't set any video= parameter. and last but not least, remove anything dealing with framebuffer frm your init files. I'm sure debian installs some stuff there |
| 15:04.43 | guylhem | I was hoping someone had made a page with a custom compiled kernel for his macbook (as in the old times) with all the good options to boot it |
| 15:05.03 | guylhem | wols: great idea I forgot to check rdev |
| 15:05.12 | wols | guylhem: when the kernel boots, it outputs stuff? or goes dark from the beginning? |
| 15:05.37 | guylhem | I got some input then half the screen turns green |
| 15:05.51 | wols | _when_ does it turn green? |
| 15:06.00 | guylhem | during the kernel boot messages |
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| 15:06.19 | guylhem | last thing I see is [drm] nouveau which I guess is related to video |
| 15:06.36 | guylhem | but I have no such line in grub params |
| 15:06.41 | vick | guylhem, yea tried --enable-rtti :D CFLAGS=xxx, how do i remove -fno-rtti from that ? Cutting it out would take a lot of time, it's a big project with flags here and there in subdirs |
| 15:06.44 | guylhem | and this is a debian standard kernel |
| 15:06.59 | wols | guylhem: it's a kernel driver for nvidia chips |
| 15:07.03 | wols | !tell guylhem about blacklist |
| 15:07.07 | guylhem | vick: just use some dummy CFLAGS like -O2 |
| 15:07.39 | wols | !tell guylhem about blacklist |
| 15:07.45 | wols | oops. wrong one |
| 15:07.50 | wols | !tell guylhem about macbook |
| 15:08.12 | guylhem | wols: thanks for the info trying at the moment |
| 15:08.25 | guylhem | I just want a working text mode. |
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| 15:09.01 | wols | well, blacklisting nouveau might be a requirement for that |
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| 15:09.18 | wols | kms too maybe |
| 15:09.26 | guylhem | wols: great !! works fine!! |
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| 15:09.45 | guylhem | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.13 | khem_ | anybody know any website where any major comapny or organization arguments against opensource / freesoftware? |
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| 15:11.57 | wols | khem_: http://www.microsoft.com/canada/windowsserver/compare/default.mspx but this is offtopic here |
| 15:12.59 | boudiccas | there is probably a simple answer to this although its hard to explain! I've added konqueror to the file opening when you right-click a file, but even when i open a file from konqueror it opens a new window of one. How do i get it to stay focused on open instance and not keep spawning other windows please? This is with KDE 4.4.5 under debian 6 |
| 15:13.47 | linduxed | suppose i've got some laptops and a giant switch, is it possible to make them communicate assuming you setup static IPs on them? |
| 15:14.00 | wols | linduxed: yes |
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| 15:15.12 | Digdilem | linduxed, they don't *need* static ips, that just makes it easier to find each other |
| 15:15.21 | linduxed | hmmm |
| 15:15.29 | linduxed | then i've done something reaaally wrong |
| 15:15.35 | Digdilem | all on the same subnet? |
| 15:16.07 | linduxed | i setup my computer as 192.168.0.3 and i can't see the comp on .2 at all |
| 15:16.09 | Digdilem | eg: set laptop ips to something like 10.0.0.1 through to 254, with subnet 255.255.255.0 and they should be able to ping each other |
| 15:16.22 | Digdilem | the neither subnets or there's something wrong with firewalls or physical network |
| 15:16.29 | wols | linduxed: out put or "ifconfig" and "route -n" from both. in a pastebin |
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| 15:16.50 | wols | *output of |
| 15:16.55 | thewanderer1 | Worm: so what's the problem now? high system load is not an issue if everything you need to be responsive stays this way |
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| 15:17.01 | linduxed | i did a "sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.*" and it didn't give anything |
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| 15:19.59 | NuclearMeltdown | help |
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| 15:20.21 | wols | !help NuclearMeltdown |
| 15:20.24 | boudiccas | NuclearMeltdown; how? |
| 15:20.32 | wols | dpkg: traitor |
| 15:20.32 | dpkg | wols: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 15:24.39 | NuclearMeltdown | boudiccas, I'm trying to install some ATI drivers following a guide written for ubuntu |
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| 15:24.57 | NuclearMeltdown | it uses the add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates |
| 15:24.57 | wols | NuclearMeltdown: that's the first wrong thing you do. STOP RIGHT NOW! |
| 15:25.17 | wols | NuclearMeltdown: there is no reason to do something so foolish |
| 15:25.45 | NuclearMeltdown | Well I just need to find out exactly what drivers those are and install them on debian somehow |
| 15:26.12 | linduxed | wols: this is what i get from route -n http://paste.pocoo.org/show/397181/ |
| 15:26.16 | wols | but you can't learn it from ubuntu PPAs |
| 15:26.40 | wols | linduxed: read again what I wrote. then try harder. good luck |
| 15:26.46 | linduxed | wols: ok |
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| 15:27.13 | NuclearMeltdown | this is written for Ubuntu 10.10 |
| 15:27.29 | NuclearMeltdown | wols, I don't want to reformat and install Ubuntu for this :( |
| 15:27.32 | wols | NuclearMeltdown: all irrelevant. start by stating your actual problem |
| 15:27.46 | boudiccas | NuclearMeltdown; are you using ubuntu? if not then why follow a guide written for them? |
| 15:27.49 | wols | NuclearMeltdown: if you mention ubuntu one more time I put you on my ignore list |
| 15:28.12 | NuclearMeltdown | wols, My problem is simple, I need to install the same version of ATI drivers that this particular guide installs |
| 15:28.17 | NuclearMeltdown | boudiccas, because it is the only one |
| 15:28.28 | NuclearMeltdown | wols, ignore me now |
| 15:28.33 | wols | have a nice day |
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| 15:28.53 | NuclearMeltdown | boudiccas, because Ubuntu is the most popular. I would actually like to write a Debian guide since none exists yet |
| 15:28.57 | Wizard | hi |
| 15:29.17 | linduxed | wols: this should be more informative http://paste.pocoo.org/show/397181/ |
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| 15:29.24 | linduxed | wols: sorry http://pastebin.com/Sv4J2W1E |
| 15:29.26 | linduxed | that one |
| 15:29.38 | linduxed | the first one is just a repost of the short snippet |
| 15:29.48 | NuclearMeltdown | I need to figure out ex actly what the commands in the Ubuntu guide do and do the same on Debian |
| 15:29.50 | Wizard | any chances on getting gnome3 on squeeze? |
| 15:30.03 | wols | Wizard: no |
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| 15:30.09 | thewanderer1 | NuclearMeltdown: say, you just need FGLRX, no? |
| 15:30.20 | NuclearMeltdown | thewanderer1, a certain version of it |
| 15:30.20 | Wizard | wols: :> |
| 15:30.40 | thewanderer1 | NuclearMeltdown: and why exactly can't it be another version? |
| 15:30.42 | Wizard | why, if i may ask, wols? |
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| 15:30.47 | nevyn | NuclearMeltdown: that's headed for fail. |
| 15:30.53 | wols | Wizard: cause squeeze is stable |
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| 15:31.24 | NuclearMeltdown | thewanderer1, because OpenCL doesn't work correctly with it |
| 15:31.32 | Worm | thewanderer1: it's not as responsive as i would like |
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| 15:32.06 | thewanderer1 | Worm, so use cgroups or renice your X.org/whatever processes to -10 |
| 15:32.10 | Wizard | and gnome3 isn't? |
| 15:32.18 | wols | !tell Wizard about stable |
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| 15:32.30 | linduxed | wols: was that paste better? |
| 15:32.32 | thewanderer1 | NuclearMeltdown: that's a bug in the driver, then :P |
| 15:32.33 | wols | Wizard: you need to learn what "stable" means in debian |
| 15:32.51 | wols | linduxed: barely. and you still haven't read what I wrote above. or not understood it |
| 15:32.54 | NuclearMeltdown | thewanderer1, binary drivers are wonderful |
| 15:33.03 | Worm | thewanderer1: i wonder if this http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/alternative-to-200-lines-kernel-patch.html could help on debian |
| 15:33.24 | wols | Worm: just run a newer kernel. but it probably doesn't for you |
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| 15:33.37 | thewanderer1 | Worm: note the date. current kernels have this patch merged into mainline. |
| 15:33.51 | wols | thewanderer1: well, squeeze doesn't use a "current" kernel |
| 15:34.07 | wols | or at least not a kernel which has this in mainline |
| 15:34.09 | thewanderer1 | wols: yes, but it's possible to compile 2.6.39 and run it without too much hassle |
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| 15:34.25 | wols | well, one would rather use a backports 2.6.38 kernel |
| 15:34.56 | thewanderer1 | Worm, group your process manually, it's not like you get thousands of instances spawned every second that you can't assign |
| 15:34.56 | unicstar | linduxed: as wols said, you must run those commands on all of your notebooks, not just one, do that and paste all the results |
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| 15:35.11 | wols | unicstar: two would suffice, for a start |
| 15:35.17 | unicstar | may be |
| 15:35.28 | wols | linduxed: oh yes, output of "dmesg |grep eth" as well |
| 15:36.13 | thewanderer1 | wols: yup, thanks for mentioning backports |
| 15:36.38 | thewanderer1 | anyway, cgroups should work on 2.6.32 in Squeeze |
| 15:37.16 | thewanderer1 | you can even use cgrulesd to automagically put all 'make' processes of a certain user in a cgroup |
| 15:37.35 | wols | thewanderer1: it does. but it'S a b*tch to use :) |
| 15:38.01 | thewanderer1 | cgroups-bin really makes it simple |
| 15:38.26 | wols | not really :) (imho) |
| 15:39.24 | jelly-home | thinks things should Just Work and not require messing with obscure tools to just have a responsive desktop |
| 15:40.41 | thewanderer1 | jelly-home: hence the patch in 2.6.39 :P |
| 15:41.05 | thewanderer1 | (not sure about 2.6.38 or when it found its way to the kernel) |
| 15:42.10 | wols | thewanderer1: what patch in .39 do you mean? |
| 15:42.35 | thewanderer1 | wols: the one that makes automatic cgroup assignment available as a config option |
| 15:42.36 | jelly-home | funny, I see _really_ weird a/v desync in mplayer and vlc with 2.6.39 |
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| 15:43.05 | thewanderer1 | heh, video drivers? :P |
| 15:43.30 | jelly-home | unlikely |
| 15:43.49 | thewanderer1 | I've yet to try it on a desktop system |
| 15:44.26 | jelly-home | something limits cpu usage, but absolute cpu usage isn't highi enough for cpufreq to kick in to higher gear |
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| 15:45.14 | thewanderer1 | oh. I had this problem when I first installed OpenVZ on a host... changed the threshold and it's working better now (only seen this on Lynnfield CPUs) |
| 15:46.35 | thewanderer1 | /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold - this, I think |
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| 15:47.58 | thewanderer1 | it's at 80 here, and yours? |
| 15:48.19 | jelly-home | 95 |
| 15:48.56 | jelly-home | see, this kind of tuning is exactly the opposite of Just Working |
| 15:48.58 | thewanderer1 | yeah, for me it never reached this |
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| 15:49.40 | thewanderer1 | so let's make it... does you think it qualifies for a bug? |
| 15:49.59 | thewanderer1 | (btw. set it to 90 - should solve the problem while keeping a conservative value - worked for me) |
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| 15:50.40 | thewanderer1 | s/does you think/do you think/ must be the lack of tea kicking in |
| 15:50.50 | jelly-home | I've used 70. |
| 15:51.03 | thewanderer1 | hm, ok :P |
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| 15:51.14 | wols | !tea thewanderer1 |
| 15:51.14 | dpkg | hands thewanderer1 a nice lukewarm bone china cup of mint tea. |
| 15:51.42 | jelly-home | lemme see if Lola Runs faster now |
| 15:52.11 | thewanderer1 | thanks... mind if I ask a hardware-related question that is completely offtopic here but nobody bothers answering in ##hardware , when it's still low traffic here? |
| 15:52.48 | wols | !tell thewanderer1 about ask |
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| 15:54.23 | thewanderer1 | yeah ok... there's a DDR3 DIMM said to be "256M x 8-bit" and have 18 chips ... so does it make it x8, dual-rank? (as I imagine it, 1 rank consists of 9 chips) |
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| 15:54.55 | wols | thewanderer1: is this server memory? |
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| 15:55.03 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 15:55.27 | wols | also: dmidecode and decode-dimms |
| 15:55.35 | thewanderer1 | yeah, but I've not bought it yet :P |
| 15:55.54 | wols | it's double sided, yes |
| 15:56.11 | thewanderer1 | and the x8 is for 8-bits? |
| 15:56.19 | wols | or do you mean really double stacked, one row of chips on top of another? hardliy with that capacity |
| 15:56.57 | wols | what is exactly the problem?`I just don't get it |
| 15:57.11 | wols | is double sided memory pulling too much power? |
| 15:57.15 | thewanderer1 | is that I need something to put in my mobo that is x8 and double-rank |
| 15:57.24 | project2501b | disregard users, acquire currency. |
| 15:57.32 | thewanderer1 | and the vendor's doc does not say if this is "x8 double rank" DIMM :P |
| 15:58.31 | thewanderer1 | so based on this info (256M x 8-bit, 18 chips) I have to deduce if it fits the constraints |
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| 16:03.09 | wols | thewanderer1: you are in poland. can't you just send it back if you buy over the internet, and get your money back? Here in .de we do, thanks to a EU law |
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| 16:04.23 | thewanderer1 | wols: no no, I mean I need RAM for the server and are trying to check if this stick (KVR1333D3E9S/4G) will work |
| 16:04.58 | thewanderer1 | it's listed on Kingston's site as compatible, but according to many discussion boards I can never know :P |
| 16:05.58 | foetus | thewanderer1: Kingston? slowly and compatible(i hope):) |
| 16:06.43 | foetus | i have an 8GB..lets see.. |
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| 16:07.11 | thewanderer1 | alright well, if my assumption that ((HAS_18_CHIPS == IS_DOUBLE_RANK) && (IS_8_BIT == IS_X8)) is true, it's fine |
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| 16:07.34 | thewanderer1 | (the problem here is merely that of naming conventions of different manufacturers, or lack thereof) |
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| 16:08.17 | guzu | hello all |
| 16:08.21 | foetus | Kingston DataTraveler G3 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 |
| 16:08.31 | guzu | how can i switch to wheezy from 6? |
| 16:08.33 | foetus | works well on an piii.. |
| 16:08.51 | thewanderer1 | foetus: DataTraveller sounds like a errr... pendrive? :P |
| 16:09.26 | wols | !tell guzu about squeezy->wheezy |
| 16:09.26 | thewanderer1 | !tell guzu about squeeze->wheezy |
| 16:09.28 | foetus | ha, you mean ram lol.. forget it :) |
| 16:09.39 | wols | !tell guzu about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 16:09.47 | thewanderer1 | wols: I think he got it :D |
| 16:10.02 | wols | thewanderer1: no he did not since there is no "squeezy" |
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| 16:10.17 | foetus | is relaxing |
| 16:10.18 | guzu | wols, thewanderer1 thank you very much! |
| 16:10.40 | thewanderer1 | wols: but yeah, your suggestion about the 10-day return period will probably work |
| 16:10.48 | guzu | is feeling alive again |
| 16:10.51 | thewanderer1 | I didn't think of that :P |
| 16:11.55 | foetus | must restart terminal, stick destroyed irssi:) |
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| 16:12.52 | foetus | pork works better.. |
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| 16:14.27 | hid3 | Hello everyone. How do I set a 'Boot' flag for a partition with `fdisk`? |
| 16:14.36 | JPT | press h |
| 16:14.42 | JPT | it should print a list of available commands |
| 16:14.45 | JPT | one of it does it |
| 16:14.57 | JPT | something like "set active" |
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| 16:15.08 | hid3 | oh, it's the first help command ;-) |
| 16:15.10 | swerve | i got this error upgrading to unstable: error: Unable to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing. |
| 16:15.12 | JPT | :) |
| 16:15.15 | hid3 | sorry, was looking somewhere in the middle |
| 16:15.21 | JPT | that happens ;) |
| 16:15.22 | swerve | w/ a lot of other text i can post |
| 16:15.37 | hid3 | and help is actuall m, not h :) |
| 16:15.39 | swerve | will that actually prevent me from booting until it's fixe? |
| 16:15.46 | hid3 | (although h might also work) |
| 16:15.48 | swerve | fixed |
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| 16:16.23 | swerve | apt says a bunch of packages are 'removed but not purged' seems to be the gist of it |
| 16:16.23 | apt | swerve: okay |
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| 16:16.48 | swerve | lol |
| 16:17.20 | swerve | any huumaans ? :D |
| 16:17.42 | thewanderer1 | swerve: so purge them :P |
| 16:17.48 | wols | !tell swerve about sid |
| 16:18.02 | wols | !tell swerve about insserv |
| 16:18.53 | swerve | well, there are a lot of other errors, too |
| 16:18.55 | swerve | that was one of them |
| 16:19.24 | jelly-home | apt: forget says a bunch of packages |
| 16:19.24 | apt | i didn't have anything called 'says a bunch of packages' to forget, jelly-home |
| 16:19.26 | swerve | 'missing LSB tabs and overrides,' e.g. no idea what that means |
| 16:20.09 | themill | swerve: what were you upgrading from and to, exactly? |
| 16:20.26 | swerve | testing to unstable, to try to fix klugey mythtv |
| 16:21.18 | themill | swerve: then you must have had this problem with missing lsb tags for quite some time |
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| 16:21.35 | swerve | apparently. never had any indication of it |
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| 16:22.23 | swerve | all i know is i'm missing the french open right now, and need to get this fixed! |
| 16:22.48 | thewanderer1 | ok, write the missing headers |
| 16:22.56 | wols | jelly-home: one can make apt forget in a /msg too, right? |
| 16:23.42 | swerve | 'write the missing headers' - no idea what that means or how i would do it |
| 16:23.46 | themill | swerve: start by looking at what packages could be purged and decide if they can all get purged: aptitude search ~c; if you're happy: aptitude purge ~c |
| 16:24.13 | swerve | there are at least 20-25 pkgs giving error - is this going to take a long time? |
| 16:24.20 | asdawe | hi all, i want to manage my website development using version control (subversion) inside a small LAN, and i have a couple of questions, first what protocol should i use, they say webdav is pretty popular, but using subversion server is easyer to setup, and se second question is how can i update my hosted website with what i have in my repository ( i have a lot of bulky flash that don't change so checking out a working version from trunk a |
| 16:24.20 | asdawe | nd uploading it with ftp out take a lot of bandwith for each update) what options do i have. thanks |
| 16:24.49 | swerve | something can get purged after it's been removed? |
| 16:24.54 | themill | swerve: "aptitude purge ~c" won't take long at all; the slow step will be you deciding that you don't need the packages any more |
| 16:24.56 | wols | swerve: the more you postpone telling us about it the longer it takes |
| 16:25.08 | swerve | it's still upgrading, i have to wait |
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| 16:25.54 | themill | swerve: "aptitude search ~c" can be run while the upgrade is still running; for future reference, upgrading from testing to unstable is rarely a way to actually solve problems. |
| 16:26.00 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: only use WebDAV when you have to, svn server or piping through SSH is usually all you need... also, git is cooler ;P |
| 16:26.17 | Bushmills | asdawe: for updates, i use nfs thorugh autofs over openvpn. makes remote disks look like local volumes, automatically mounting on demand. |
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| 16:26.24 | swerve | typically i just upgrade myth to unstable, but i already did that it was still failing |
| 16:26.36 | swerve | thought it might be a related pkg |
| 16:27.16 | swerve | main question though unanswered - would computer fail to boot in this state? |
| 16:27.32 | thewanderer1 | that's possible |
| 16:27.39 | swerve | ok |
| 16:27.46 | thewanderer1 | I would say that a Sid computer might not boot in any state as of now... :P |
| 16:27.59 | swerve | oh great |
| 16:28.08 | swerve | might not need to, just wondering tho |
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| 16:29.07 | swerve | oh - i have to use aptitude? |
| 16:29.13 | asdawe | Bushmills, i don't believe my hosting provider has openvpn service .. |
| 16:29.24 | swerve | i've always used apt-get, will that be a problem |
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| 16:29.56 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: so you need to push updates from development LAN to some remote hosting? |
| 16:30.15 | asdawe | thewanderer1, yep |
| 16:30.36 | thewanderer1 | so your options depend entirely on what the remote side (hosting) provides |
| 16:30.40 | asdawe | now i do it using dreamweaver to sync my local copy to my hosting server |
| 16:30.46 | asdawe | yes |
| 16:30.53 | Bushmills | asdawe: then use whatever your hosting provider offers |
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| 16:31.06 | thewanderer1 | "desktop publishing" tools like that often use specific webserver extensions |
| 16:31.09 | Bushmills | ehm .. as thewanderer1said |
| 16:31.20 | Qation | Hey I'm using the opensource radeon drivers but I want to install the proprietary drivers. I added the repo and I can see the packages but it returns this: http://pastie.org/1989452 That is the only solution. Do I have to remove the opensource drivers first? |
| 16:31.29 | swerve | okay, i'm just going to do the purge ~c hope i don't get screwed :~/ |
| 16:31.48 | asdawe | well i'm not sure how dreamweaver does it since i did not set it up, but i know we have ssh access to the hosting server |
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| 16:32.18 | Qation | It may be because I tried installing the drivers from a .run file as well |
| 16:32.19 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: if the server has svn or git binaries, you should be able to pipe the respective VCS through that |
| 16:32.40 | asdawe | oh |
| 16:32.41 | swerve | actually this looks pretty good if it works |
| 16:32.44 | wols | Qation: why can't you continue? |
| 16:32.52 | swerve | cleaning off a bunch of chaff looks like |
| 16:33.06 | thewanderer1 | SVN supports an SSH transport IIRC |
| 16:33.10 | Qation | wols: I'm not really sure |
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| 16:33.15 | Qation | Conflicts? |
| 16:33.40 | asdawe | thewanderer1, so i can ssh in my hosting server, and do a checkout from my local lan? and when ever i need just do an update? |
| 16:33.49 | Qation | It says it needs xorg-video-abi-6.0 |
| 16:33.55 | Qation | But I can't find that package |
| 16:34.06 | Qation | unless theres another repo I need |
| 16:34.08 | asdawe | thewanderer1, yes there is svn+ssh protocol |
| 16:34.12 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: there's a "svn up" you know :P |
| 16:34.45 | asdawe | thewanderer1, sadly i don't , i come late to the party .. |
| 16:34.47 | wols | Qation: all I see is a recommendation |
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| 16:35.30 | Qation | wols: I know but whatever choice i pick (y,n) I can't install the packages |
| 16:35.36 | Qation | that's the only "solution" |
| 16:35.41 | Qation | not installing them |
| 16:35.42 | asdawe | thewanderer1, but how is my local subversion server available when i'm ssh'ed in the hosting server? |
| 16:36.14 | wols | !tell Qation about errors |
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| 16:36.21 | asdawe | thewanderer1, i ssh from a lan machine, not available to the outside |
| 16:36.31 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: ok, then you want git :P |
| 16:36.39 | stew | judd: provides xorg-video-abi-6.0 |
| 16:36.41 | judd | Cannot find the package xorg-video-abi-6.0 in squeeze/i386. |
| 16:36.45 | vooze | Anyone have a TIP about a great NAS server "package" for debian? |
| 16:37.07 | thewanderer1 | vooze: NAS servers are usually whole OS - try Nexenta OS or FreeNAS |
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| 16:37.16 | Qation | wols: What i posted is what apt returned, do you want me to post apt's log? |
| 16:37.29 | wols | Qation: apt-get install fglrx-driver |
| 16:37.42 | stew | Qation: the current xserver-xorg-core provides xorg-input-abi-12, xorg-video-abi-10, so whatever you are trying to install must be for an older version of debian |
| 16:38.11 | Qation | Oh |
| 16:38.16 | Qation | Should I try dist upgrade? |
| 16:38.20 | vooze | thewanderer1: yeah i know, but i really wanted to use my server for NAS, mail and some other stuff |
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| 16:38.35 | Qation | I'm on wheezy/sid |
| 16:38.46 | Qation | According to debian_version |
| 16:38.58 | wols | Qation: you aren't on wheezy. not according to your earlier aptitude paste |
| 16:39.10 | stew | the wheezy/sid version provides xorg-input-abi-12, xorg-video-abi-10, so that won't help you install something that depends on xorg-video-abi-6.0 |
| 16:39.17 | asdawe | thewanderer1, any hint why? |
| 16:39.19 | stew | Qation: what package are you trying to install with that dependency? |
| 16:39.30 | Qation | fglrx-driver |
| 16:39.32 | thewanderer1 | vooze: you have 2 options - using Debian for all that, and configuring all packages that you need for it (NFS? Samba?), or running Debian for some services and a NAS OS in a VM for others |
| 16:39.40 | wols | Qation: pastebin your sources.list please |
| 16:39.44 | Qation | wols: I downloaded squeeze |
| 16:39.51 | Qation | but I added wheezy sources |
| 16:39.55 | Qation | and I think one sid |
| 16:40.26 | wols | Qation: mixing branches is a fast way to make everything go BOOM. which is probably what happens here |
| 16:40.30 | wols | again: pastebin |
| 16:40.33 | Qation | Oh |
| 16:40.37 | asdawe | thewanderer1, it seems more complex and i'm barely grasping subversion wich it's supposed to be easy |
| 16:40.44 | Qation | I'll remove those |
| 16:40.57 | wols | Qation: doesn't matter. the damage is already done |
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| 16:42.05 | Qation | Is there anything I can do to fix it? |
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| 16:42.12 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: yes, but it supports "push" whereas with SVN you would have to hack around it by making the webserver your "master" copy or sth like that |
| 16:42.40 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: anyway, you can make a script in the LAN that will pack a tarball, push it to the server and unpack there |
| 16:43.09 | Qation | wols: http://pastie.org/1989496 This is what my sources.list is now |
| 16:43.18 | swerve | damn - looks like i have a boot failure |
| 16:43.36 | thewanderer1 | welcome to Sid, Mr. Anderson :P |
| 16:44.01 | swerve | any likely suspects, or does it depend on all these purged pkgs? |
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| 16:44.20 | themill | swerve: what do you mean by "have a boot failure"? |
| 16:44.27 | asdawe | thewanderer1, yes that is a posibility but is just as easy to checkout trunk in a folder in my LAN and upload it with ftp, or scp or anything but it's like 2GB of flash crap that would take forever, instead if i could do svn update on my hosting server it would checkout only the changes |
| 16:44.31 | swerve | means it doesn't appear to be booting |
| 16:46.02 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: yeah, or use rsync :P |
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| 16:47.29 | CuBe0wL | hi all! sorry I'm back again, but I still haven't found a way to make my gamepad work in 2.6.38 |
| 16:47.35 | asdawe | thewanderer1, wait, with ssh i can run command on the remove machine right ? like ssh bla@website 'ls -l' can't i do ssh bla@website svn co svn+ssh://localhost/var/repos ? |
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| 16:47.54 | CuBe0wL | does anyone else have problems using a gamepad in 2.6.38? |
| 16:48.15 | asdawe | thewanderer1, localhost being the machine in LAN with repository |
| 16:48.33 | asdawe | thewanderer1, the same machine from wich i connect with ssh |
| 16:48.36 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: umm... yeah, and how exactly would website know that localhost is your LAN machine? |
| 16:48.52 | thewanderer1 | of course, you can play around with reverse tunnelling, but it's pointless when you have rsync |
| 16:49.03 | asdawe | thewanderer1, then maybe using the file:/// protocol? |
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| 16:49.36 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: look, you have rsync which is capable of running efficiently over SSH, try it :P |
| 16:49.45 | CuBe0wL | these are the differences between dmesg after plugging in the device in 2.6.32 and 2.6.38 : http://pastebin.com/xb5AK7d6 |
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| 16:50.13 | Qation | wols: Is there anything that I can do to fix it? |
| 16:50.23 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... i am install LXDE right now and i need some login manager ... but i cant find lxdm ... what should i use ?! |
| 16:50.37 | asdawe | thewanderer1, i don't know much about rsync than it's an advanced cp , can it upload only files that have changed? so i don't need to upload the whole thing every time? |
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| 16:51.05 | MrFrood | cobra-the-joker: try SLiM |
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| 16:52.02 | cobra-the-joker | MrFrood , ok .... but why LXDM isnt in the repos ? |
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| 16:52.24 | thewanderer1 | asdawe: yes, that's its main purpose :P |
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| 16:53.27 | MrFrood | cobra-the-joker: I'm guessing because there are several already packaged and lxdm did not offer anything new - but it is only a guess... |
| 16:53.57 | asdawe | thewanderer1, thanks pal |
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| 16:59.44 | Iridos | oh, and MPEG ADTS, AAC, v4 LC, 44.1 kHz |
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| 17:05.02 | Worm | thewanderer1: just tried to install cgroups and just came across this same bug : http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg883920.html |
| 17:05.51 | thewanderer1 | Worm, does /mnt/cgroups exist? |
| 17:06.02 | tux0 | Iridos xterm + mplayer ? |
| 17:06.08 | thewanderer1 | (and all other dirs pointed to by the settings) |
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| 17:06.44 | Iridos | tux0, something like mplayer (or melt, which I just tried) that has a key to erase the file |
| 17:07.46 | Worm | yes they exist |
| 17:08.01 | Iridos | guess I could write a script that loops over all of them and ask if it should remove stuff afterwards |
| 17:08.07 | Iridos | that sounds slightly unsafe though |
| 17:08.36 | thewanderer1 | Worm, do you need a working config file? |
| 17:08.40 | Iridos | or I could start by sorting by size... the small ones are probably worthless |
| 17:09.04 | Worm | well /etc/cgconfig.conf exists as well, I don't know why it fails to parse it |
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| 17:10.33 | thewanderer1 | Worm, try removing devices cgroup - it might not be implemented on 2.6.32 I think |
| 17:10.54 | wols | afaik it is since at least 2.6.29 or so |
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| 17:11.34 | Worm | i'm using 2.6.34 btw |
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| 17:11.55 | thewanderer1 | Worm, so you might have not compiled it in |
| 17:12.16 | Worm | i didn't compile the kernel, my host did (ovh) |
| 17:12.37 | thewanderer1 | alright... well, cgconfigparser requires that cgconfig be stopped when running it |
| 17:12.58 | thewanderer1 | apparently it doesn't just parse the config - it executes it and mounts the fs |
| 17:13.00 | tux0 | Iridos for a in *.mp3; do mplayer "$a"; [[ $? -gt 0 ]] && rm "$a"; done |
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| 17:13.24 | themill | tux0: what controls mplayer's exit code? |
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| 17:13.41 | tux0 | Iridos press q for quit/exit status of 0 or Ctrl-C to kill the mplayer playing the file you want to delete and exit status 1 |
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| 17:13.48 | thewanderer1 | Worm, specifically, it won't work if you already have mounted cgroups somewhere |
| 17:14.07 | themill | tux0: :) I had contemplated a similar answer myself but didn't know that last detail |
| 17:14.12 | thewanderer1 | Worm, using systemd or something? :P |
| 17:14.17 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 17:14.23 | tux0 | Iridos themill test first! |
| 17:14.29 | themill | heh |
| 17:14.36 | tux0 | :) |
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| 17:15.09 | tux0 | note you could always do and mv instead of rm and move them into a directory and delete the directory after just in case you make an error |
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| 17:16.02 | Iridos | tux0, hehe... yeah... that's also what I meant with "slightly unsafe" |
| 17:16.13 | Worm | thewanderer1: how do i check if cgroups is already mounted somewhere ? |
| 17:16.28 | thewanderer1 | Worm, cat /proc/mounts and look for something cgroupish :P |
| 17:16.35 | Iridos | also... from what I remember mplayer doesnt like ctrl-c much |
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| 17:16.52 | tux0 | Iridos who cares it exits with 1 that's all you want :) |
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| 17:17.06 | Worm | nothing cgroupish there |
| 17:17.14 | Iridos | I mean it igonres ctrl-c something like 3 times and only exits eventually |
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| 17:17.42 | thewanderer1 | Worm, can you mount cgroups manually, like: mount -t cgroup -o cpu cpu /mnt/cgroups/cpu; ? |
| 17:18.48 | wols | thewanderer1: what was that about "simple" again? :) |
| 17:18.48 | sidh | excuse me, I added a second public IP to my debian dedicated server, but now I get stuck because the server has 2 default route , and I would like to set a priority for one towards the other, is it possible ? |
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| 17:19.09 | thewanderer1 | wols: hey, works for me :P |
| 17:19.22 | Iridos | tux0, ah... banshee has "delete from file" in the right-click menu.. that should do |
| 17:19.25 | thewanderer1 | (besides, if this is a custom kernel, never expect simplicity :D ) |
| 17:19.52 | wols | ah, custom. then I hope you have told him to check if cgroups is even activated |
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| 17:21.05 | thewanderer1 | wols: just told to mount an example cgroup :P |
| 17:22.20 | thewanderer1 | sidh: maybe 'weight' option to 'ip add route' |
| 17:22.46 | Worm | thewanderer1: actually installation script did not create /mnt/cgroups/ subdirectories |
| 17:23.21 | Worm | so i should create cpu; cpuacct; and devices; |
| 17:23.28 | Worm | does this semicolon matter ? |
| 17:23.31 | thewanderer1 | Worm, oh, that would explain a lot... :P ("(19:05:51) thewanderer1: Worm, does /mnt/cgroups exist?") |
| 17:23.38 | thewanderer1 | Worm, no, the semicolon is just the file's syntax |
| 17:23.43 | Worm | ok |
| 17:23.53 | sidh | thewanderer1: ok i look thank you |
| 17:24.24 | Worm | mount -t cgroup -o cpu cpu /mnt/cgroups/cpu --> no such file or directory |
| 17:24.42 | Worm | even though cd /mnt/cgroups/cpu works |
| 17:24.45 | Worm | i'm not that dumb :p |
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| 17:25.12 | zappal | Worm: what filesystem is cgroup? |
| 17:25.12 | thewanderer1 | Worm, `grep CGROUP /boot/config-$(uname -r)` and see if cgroups are enabled... |
| 17:26.20 | thewanderer1 | I hope you have the file :P |
| 17:27.05 | Worm | i don't lol |
| 17:27.10 | thewanderer1 | another way is `cat /proc/cgroups` |
| 17:27.12 | Worm | only bzImage-2.6.34.6-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 and System.map-2.6.34.6-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 |
| 17:27.59 | Worm | http://pastebin.ca/2071653 |
| 17:28.02 | thewanderer1 | (right, OVH guys think giving people grsecurity kernels without configs is going to help) |
| 17:28.24 | thewanderer1 | ok, it looks fine |
| 17:28.31 | wols | thewanderer1: /proc/config.gz |
| 17:29.04 | Worm | no /proc/config.gz either |
| 17:29.06 | thewanderer1 | wols: I'd doubt grsecurity kernels ship that... but we've verified already that cgroups are enabled |
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| 17:29.37 | thewanderer1 | (knowing .config lets an attacker construct a symbol table and attack the kernel memory, or so they say...) |
| 17:30.11 | thewanderer1 | ok so mount is not mounting the cgroups, but they're enabled |
| 17:31.22 | rhenani | how do i now whtat version of ffmpeg do i have because i'm having a problem with kdenlive recording the videos with gtk-recordmydesktop |
| 17:31.33 | somiaj | rhenani: dpkg -l ffmpeg? |
| 17:32.04 | zappal | thewanderer1: i don't understand the mount switch of -t cgroup. -t is the switch for a filesystem or not? |
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| 17:32.17 | thewanderer1 | zappal: for filesystem type, yes |
| 17:32.20 | somiaj | rhenani: dpkg -l | grep ffmpeg also works if the exact package name isn't ffmpeg |
| 17:32.47 | jackweb | Hello! How to check package version in APT repository? |
| 17:32.48 | zappal | thewanderer1: and is cgroup a filesystem? |
| 17:32.49 | somiaj | rhenani: <program> --version is usally another way to check (if you didn't install it with the debian packaing system) |
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| 17:32.58 | thewanderer1 | zappal: it's a virtual filesystem type, yes |
| 17:33.13 | somiaj | jackweb: apt-cache show <pkg name> will show you the info in the repo you have in your cache (via apt-get update) |
| 17:33.26 | thewanderer1 | Worm, does strace of the mount produce anything useful? |
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| 17:33.46 | somiaj | jackweb: if you want to look for package versions outside of your sources.list, goto packages.debian.org/<pkg name> |
| 17:33.56 | cwg | Hi folks - if I'm on Stable and want Testing versions of just a few programs (LibreOffice, the newer gwrite) what's the best way to do that? If I add the wheezy repo as well as the squeeze repo, will that make Synaptic go all confusing with the different package versions, or will it give me choices? |
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| 17:34.09 | somiaj | jackweb: you can use aptitude as well, aptitude show <pkg name> |
| 17:34.35 | somiaj | cwg: you cannot install testing/unstable packages on stable (you will destroy your stable system usually libc6 and other core depends) |
| 17:34.45 | jackweb | somiaj: jacek@debian:~$ apt-cache show kdebase | grep Version |
| 17:34.46 | jackweb | Version: 5:66 |
| 17:34.50 | thewanderer1 | !tell cwg about backports |
| 17:35.02 | jackweb | I expected something like 4.4.6 |
| 17:35.10 | somiaj | cwg: you ahve two different options, option 1) check out backports -- 2) download the source and compile it against your curret stable libaries, in that case /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 17:35.30 | thewanderer1 | good luck compiling OO.o :) |
| 17:35.39 | themill | jackweb: /msg dpkg kde version |
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| 17:36.26 | tziku | how can i bridge my eth0 with eth1 ? i'm usign debian squeeze |
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| 17:37.35 | poisonbit | apt-get install bridge-utils, and read man 5 bridge-utils-interfaces |
| 17:37.58 | tux0 | tziku http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/bridge.txt |
| 17:37.59 | tziku | thanks |
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| 17:38.58 | Worm | thewanderer1: nothing useful to me : http://pastebin.ca/2071656 |
| 17:39.04 | cwg | checking out backports - thanks thewanderer1, somiaj |
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| 17:40.18 | unicstar | !tell tziku about bridge setup |
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| 17:41.23 | aminpy | how to remove user with home directory and ...? |
| 17:41.43 | zappal | aminpy: userdel -h |
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| 17:42.45 | foetus | *userdel -r |
| 17:42.59 | foetus | h is help. |
| 17:43.03 | thewanderer1 | Worm, mount("cpu", "/mnt/cgroups/cpu", "cgroup", MS_MGC_VAL, "cpu") - this syscall works for me. this seems to be a kernel bug, you might want to report this to OVH or request/get a different kernel (newer? without grsec?) |
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| 17:43.12 | sidh | thewanderer1: http://www.rjsystems.nl/en/2100-adv-routing.php helps a lot, that's ok now |
| 17:43.12 | aminpy | foetus, yeah |
| 17:43.23 | foetus | ok. |
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| 17:44.37 | ProGenY | hi everyone .. using "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d ip_addres -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 9090" .... gives me an error of no chain/target match by that name ... but "iptables -t nat -L -n -v" returns Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 50119 packets, 2579K bytes) ... am i doing smth wrogn ? |
| 17:44.42 | thewanderer1 | Worm, or just use a Debian kernel where this works |
| 17:45.08 | Worm | ok i'll ask ovh i guess |
| 17:45.09 | rhenani | Hello |
| 17:45.10 | rhenani | guys |
| 17:45.27 | Worm | ty for help anyway thewanderer1 :) |
| 17:45.45 | rhenani | Is there any one here that use kdenlive recording videos with gtk-recordmydesktop and it works?? |
| 17:45.54 | thewanderer1 | Worm, be sure to save the strace somewhere, or at least the syscall's return value to notify them :P |
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| 17:45.58 | zappal | ProGenY: would you like the - DNAT |
| 17:46.31 | ProGenY | ? |
| 17:46.31 | pepebujia | hello, is there any live cd or dvd of queeze with kde ? |
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| 17:46.52 | aminpy | can anybody give a link or ... for debian bind? |
| 17:47.04 | thewanderer1 | pepebujia: you mean like http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/6.0.1/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.1-i386-kde-desktop.iso ? |
| 17:47.12 | Zelozelos | can i still have compiz with debian ? |
| 17:47.14 | MrFrood | rhenani: if as you aluded earlier a ffmeg problem try the one from debian multimedia |
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| 17:47.48 | pepebujia | thewanderer1 u got a 10 |
| 17:47.53 | zappal | ProGenY: mom |
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| 17:47.58 | unicstar | ProGenY: use -A POSTROUTING for nat |
| 17:48.11 | babilen | !tell Zelozelos -about compiz |
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| 17:48.22 | babilen | Zelozelos: What gives you the impression that you can't? |
| 17:48.31 | ProGenY | what i am trying to do is forward port 80 to 9090 |
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| 17:48.41 | ProGenY | postrouting would do that |
| 17:48.53 | zappal | ProGenY: $IPT -t nat -A PREROUTING -s $MYNETWORK1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 |
| 17:49.03 | zappal | that's an example |
| 17:49.22 | rhenani | MrFrood: from debian multimedia? |
| 17:50.01 | MrFrood | !tell rhenani about dmm |
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| 17:51.55 | cwg | is it possible to check the version of a backports package before I install? |
| 17:52.11 | thewanderer1 | cwg: backports.debian.org -> use the package search |
| 17:52.16 | jelly-home | cwg: apt-cache policy packagename |
| 17:52.21 | thewanderer1 | that too :P |
| 17:52.30 | zappal | cwg: apt-get install -s .... |
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| 17:54.15 | cwg | excellent - thanks folks |
| 17:54.25 | sidh | when we use 2 dummy interfaces, do we still have to : echo "options dummy numdummies=2" > /etc/modprobe.d/local ? in the latest debian stable relase |
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| 18:00.24 | Zelozelos | babilen, thank you i figured it would |
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| 18:00.55 | tc_ | what do you think of debian? does not really work correctly for me |
| 18:00.59 | babilen | Zelozelos: Would be hard/impossible to install? Or: "Would be easy to install as on any other Linux?" |
| 18:01.03 | GJdan | I get a funny loop when I Try to install postgresql and postgresql-client http://dpaste.org/tRBL/ |
| 18:01.09 | zappal | ProGenY: does it work with ... -j REDIRECT --to-ports ...? |
| 18:01.09 | GJdan | anyone have any ideas? :\ |
| 18:01.31 | tc_ | i tried tinycorelinux, seem much cleaner |
| 18:02.02 | Zelozelos | babilen i suppose if the ppa dosent exits or cant be added or whatever its as simple as dling it and installing |
| 18:02.03 | tc_ | but there is still lot of people here, why? |
| 18:02.18 | unicstar | tc_: are you comparing debian with tinycorelinux?? |
| 18:02.23 | babilen | Zelozelos: There are no PPAs for Debian. |
| 18:02.24 | tc_ | yes |
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| 18:02.46 | tc_ | and second is much better |
| 18:02.57 | babilen | Zelozelos: Compiz is, however, in Debian and you can just install directly from the mirrors. |
| 18:02.59 | Zelozelos | babilen, ahh here it is ill see if it works |
| 18:03.03 | Zelozelos | aptitude install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-gnome compiz-gtk |
| 18:03.21 | tc_ | cant compare indeed, debian is old and plenty of difficult configuration traps, second is clean and modern |
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| 18:03.37 | tc_ | maybe same comparing perl and python? |
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| 18:04.02 | unicstar | seems compare a mercedes with a fiat |
| 18:04.07 | tc_ | unicstar, did you compared perl and python? |
| 18:04.31 | tc_ | old mercedes and brand new fiat 500? |
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| 18:04.40 | unicstar | not so, deeply |
| 18:04.56 | tc_ | old gasoil mercedes of 1950, kill the planet |
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| 18:05.22 | tensorpudding | tc_: did you come here with a question |
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| 18:06.04 | tc_ | yes, my question is: why do you use still debian? are you fake people? i mean only avatars? |
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| 18:06.18 | tc_ | ore dont you know tinycorelinux? |
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| 18:06.41 | tensorpudding | whee netsplit |
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| 18:07.12 | tensorpudding | tc_: that's not a support question, it's not on-topic |
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| 18:07.25 | unicstar | yes |
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| 18:08.01 | tc_ | topic is why my debian was always broken and unmaintainable because of tons of stupid scripts? is that topic? |
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| 18:08.07 | jelly-home | tc_: you could try asking in #debian-offtopic if you want a poll of why people use Debian and not something else. Read /msg dpkg why debian |
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| 18:08.35 | themill | tc_: please take a break from #debian and try being more signal and less noise |
| 18:08.45 | tensorpudding | huh, IdleOne hangs out here too? |
| 18:08.49 | zappal | tc_: i think you are not able to configure a debian so it's better you take an other distro |
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| 18:09.09 | slooth | How do I specify packages NOT to be updated? |
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| 18:09.31 | MrFrood | slooth: use dpkg to hold them |
| 18:09.32 | mparodi | Hello |
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| 18:09.52 | mparodi | what signal should I use to kill a process with code 0? |
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| 18:10.12 | jelly-home | mparodi: what do you mean by "code 0" |
| 18:10.27 | mparodi | the normal exit(0) |
| 18:10.34 | tensorpudding | i don't think you can do that normally |
| 18:10.40 | poisonbit | kill -l for available signals... no "0" here |
| 18:10.44 | jelly-home | mparodi: you can't determine how the process will exit. |
| 18:10.47 | poisonbit | the app should trap some expected signal |
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| 18:11.03 | jelly-home | (from outside) |
| 18:11.04 | tensorpudding | yeah, if the app doesn't trap any signals it interprets it as a TERM, iirc |
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| 18:11.31 | mparodi | ok! thanks |
| 18:11.38 | wols | jelly-home: what will a process return when I kill -9 then? |
| 18:11.43 | somiaj | slooth: echo <pgk name> hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections |
| 18:11.45 | slooth | MrFrood, thanks. (echo 'packagename hold'|dpkg --set-selections) did it |
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| 18:11.49 | slooth | somiaj, thanks :) |
| 18:11.50 | jelly-home | wols: the default, 128+signal |
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| 18:11.56 | wols | ah. thank you |
| 18:12.15 | poisonbit | mparodi, depend on the process (a daemon?), maybe /etc/init.d/name_here stop |
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| 18:12.27 | ttiicc | I wonder how I could add '/usr/lib/jni' to my java.library.path in debian. does anyone know? |
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| 18:12.42 | mparodi | no, it's ok, I was misunderstanding it |
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| 18:15.25 | ProGenY | zappal |
| 18:15.25 | ProGenY | vds-965769:~# iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s $MYNETWORK1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9090 |
| 18:15.25 | ProGenY | Bad argument `tcp' |
| 18:15.25 | ProGenY | Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. |
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| 18:16.01 | zappal | ProGenY: did you change the variable $MYNETWORK1? |
| 18:16.31 | jelly-home | ProGenY: -m tcp needs to go before the options relevant for that module |
| 18:16.32 | zappal | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s <any ip> -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9090 |
| 18:16.58 | unicstar | ProGenY: what do you want to do exactly ? forward to port 80 and then send to the wild or receive from wild and forward to internal network port 80 ? |
| 18:18.18 | ProGenY | i have a daemon |
| 18:18.31 | ProGenY | that runs on on 9090 |
| 18:18.44 | ProGenY | so instad if geting users to tyme www.modomain.com:9090 |
| 18:18.56 | unicstar | ProGenY: so you want to do a portforwarding from outside:80 to inside:9090, yes? |
| 18:18.57 | zappal | ProGenY: test taht ---> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s <any ip> -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9090 |
| 18:19.02 | ProGenY | yes |
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| 18:19.24 | unicstar | ProGenY: you must not use -t nat |
| 18:19.29 | ProGenY | zappal: that gives me the error i asked for |
| 18:19.31 | ProGenY | iptables: No chain/target/match by that name |
| 18:19.35 | unicstar | that is for nating, not portforwarding |
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| 18:20.00 | jelly-home | unicstar: that's the correct place to put a REDIRECT. |
| 18:20.19 | ProGenY | unicstar: in my other box works perfectlty |
| 18:20.26 | ProGenY | just this one is not accepting it |
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| 18:20.50 | zappal | ProGenY: could paste lsmod? |
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| 18:21.27 | ProGenY | lsmod |
| 18:21.28 | ProGenY | Module Size Used by |
| 18:21.28 | ProGenY | vds-965769:~# |
| 18:21.31 | jelly-home | ProGenY: uname -a? Which debian release are you running? |
| 18:21.52 | jelly-home | ProGenY: is this some sort of a virtualized enviroment? |
| 18:22.02 | ProGenY | uname -a |
| 18:22.02 | ProGenY | Linux vds-965769.amen-pro.com 2.6.18-028stab070.14 #1 SMP Thu Nov 18 16:04:02 MSK 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 18:22.03 | zappal | ProGenY: did you compile the kernel by yourself? |
| 18:22.13 | ProGenY | no its a vitrualized enviroment |
| 18:22.21 | ProGenY | coz also in ifconfig |
| 18:22.21 | jelly-home | ProGenY: you can't do iptables in that vps. |
| 18:22.42 | ProGenY | i dont get eth0 i get |
| 18:22.47 | somiaj | that's an old kernel, even old stable was 2.6.26 |
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| 18:23.08 | jelly-home | somiaj: it's an openvz/virtuozzo/parallels kernel |
| 18:23.25 | ProGenY | i get venet0 and venet0:0 |
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| 18:23.55 | ProGenY | so is there a way i can do portforwarding without iptables |
| 18:24.03 | wols | ProGenY: ssh |
| 18:24.31 | jelly-home | ProGenY: openvz doesn't have a proper netfilter stack inside vpses. You could make-do with inetd and redir. |
| 18:24.33 | wols | what do you need the portforward for exactly? |
| 18:25.20 | jelly-home | ProGenY: with redir, your service would think all the connections are coming from a local ip address |
| 18:25.44 | unicstar | yes I was wrong |
| 18:26.21 | jelly-home | ProGenY: or, if you have access to the host, I _think_ you could do redirection there but I don't know what that would work exactly |
| 18:26.38 | ProGenY | ill just install redir and try that |
| 18:26.40 | jelly-home | s/what/how/ |
| 18:26.59 | unicstar | ProGenY: test this , it may work : iptables -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.200:9090 ( assuming your internal ip is 192.168.1.200 ) |
| 18:27.58 | zappal | unicstar: ProGenY lsmod don't shows anything |
| 18:28.05 | poisonbit | "socat" can make port redirections too |
| 18:28.21 | jelly-home | poisonbit: can it be run as a service? |
| 18:28.50 | poisonbit | using nohup counts ? |
| 18:28.54 | jelly-home | no |
| 18:28.57 | poisonbit | :) |
| 18:29.13 | wols | jelly-home: doesn't start-stop-daemon do something like this |
| 18:29.16 | wols | ? |
| 18:30.07 | poisonbit | anyway, he doesn't have modules, but he may have iptables and related modules built-in (?) |
| 18:30.11 | jelly-home | wols: no. |
| 18:31.00 | jelly-home | poisonbit: it's an openvz vps -- the choices are severely restricted. I don't know if ANY iptables support is present in there |
| 18:31.05 | ProGenY | thnx guys any sugestions on info regaridng redir? |
| 18:31.48 | unicstar | yes, it is limitted, you only can have some restrictios on ips and subnets |
| 18:31.49 | jelly-home | ProGenY: uh... you specify listener address, listener ip, destination address, destination ip, and see if it works? |
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| 18:32.27 | jelly-home | ProGenY: or put it in inetd and specify just the destination |
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| 18:33.12 | jelly-home | #jumbo.iskon.hr:www stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/bin/redir redir --syslog --name=redir-jumbo --inetd --caddr=localhost --cport=8100 |
| 18:33.43 | jelly-home | ProGenY: that's for openbsd-inetd's /etc/inetd.conf |
| 18:33.48 | zappal | ProGenY: ---> http://linux-tips.org/article/36/redirecting-tcp-udp-ports-with-socat |
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| 18:34.38 | jelly-home | one could put in netcat/socat in inetd, but redir has some nice things going for it |
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| 18:36.26 | unicstar | I just ran "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.200:9090" in one openvz host, and it worked, my "lsmod" also was empty |
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| 18:37.10 | poisonbit | if there is kernel support, there should be for example /proc/net/ip_tables_names or /proc/net/ip_tables_targets |
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| 18:38.02 | unicstar | albeit the test host was not debian, it was CentOS |
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| 18:38.33 | jelly-home | unicstar: doesn't really matter what the userspace inside vps is, does it |
| 18:38.51 | markit | hi, I want to add my experience to bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627500 but don't understand how the bug tracker works... is there a bug server where login? |
| 18:39.01 | unicstar | seems not |
| 18:39.19 | ProGenY | socat[16025] E bind(3, {AF=2 0.0.0.0:80}, 16): Address already in use |
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| 18:39.42 | wols | ProGenY: have you checked what listens on port 80? |
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| 18:39.52 | ProGenY | i gues apache |
| 18:39.52 | poisonbit | markit, mail to 627500@bugs.debian.org |
| 18:39.53 | unicstar | ProGenY: did you see my command above? better to test it you as well |
| 18:40.04 | jelly-home | ProGenY: for obvious reasons you need to stop whatever's using tcp/80 at present to make your socat available there |
| 18:40.05 | octo_ | what ver of kde are you running in stable and sid(if you still call it that?) ? |
| 18:40.21 | markit | poisonbit: thanks, I found that way, but I'm used to different bug tracker, thought was a wrong one |
| 18:40.24 | zappal | ProGenY: # netstat -lnp | grep 80 |
| 18:40.37 | llutz | octo_: sid = KDE: 4.6.3 |
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| 18:41.45 | project2501a | hey guys, how do i load randr into my x server? |
| 18:42.14 | wols | project2501a: elaborate please? |
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| 18:43.12 | project2501a | wols: i would like to rotate one of my X displays (as per what X calls display.) i tried to use xrandr but it says "xlib extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". " |
| 18:43.23 | project2501a | RandR extension missing |
| 18:43.48 | wols | strange. should be loaded always |
| 18:43.56 | project2501a | well, it's not. |
| 18:44.01 | poisonbit | custom xorg.conf ? |
| 18:44.03 | Qation | wols: When you were helping me earlier about the fglrx driver, you said that mixing the branches messed it up somehow. Should I do this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_emergency_downgrading ? |
| 18:44.22 | project2501a | and i grepped my /etc/X11/xorg.conf and there is no mention of randr . so, how do i load it? |
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| 18:45.32 | wols | Qation: remove all testing and unstable from sources.list, try apt-get to install fglrx-driver and show the output if it breaks. since you not only have mixed branches but also tried to install via amd.com, there are no guarantees at all for anything |
| 18:45.34 | markit | poisonbit: this way all those addresses will be very spammed :( |
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| 18:45.48 | Qation | wols: I've tried both |
| 18:45.57 | Qation | but I can't use the amd thing |
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| 18:46.05 | Qation | because it tells me I don't have enough free space.. |
| 18:46.33 | Qation | I have over 450 GB free on my home partition and 68 mb free on / |
| 18:46.34 | poisonbit | markit, sorry, I can't fix that... this is how the debian bugs are tracked =) |
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| 18:46.46 | Qation | I may need to enlarge root I guess |
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| 18:46.50 | ProGenY | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 13336/apache2 |
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| 18:46.50 | ProGenY | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.50 | ProGenY | -bash: apachectl: command not found |
| 18:46.52 | ProGenY | grrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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| 18:48.01 | Sweetshark | Hi there, has something recently changed about git.debian.org host identifcation? I get a big fast warning from ssh. |
| 18:48.06 | octo_ | llutz: thanks |
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| 18:48.50 | simonlnu | ProGenY: it's in /usr/sbin |
| 18:49.02 | poisonbit | and maybe it's apache2ctl |
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| 18:50.00 | foetus | ;) |
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| 18:51.06 | poisonbit | Sweetshark, i'm not involved, but if there has been changes, they use to be announced on related mailing lists |
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| 18:53.36 | Sweetshark | poisonbit: do you know the fingerprint for the RSA key for the debian git server? If it is the not one I see here, I know something fishy is going on. |
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| 18:54.20 | poisonbit | I'm not involved, I do not use debians git, sorry |
| 18:54.38 | poisonbit | maybe someother can help you |
| 18:54.47 | Sweetshark | poisonbit: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/05/msg00007.html <- googling for "debian git fingerprint" helped ;) |
| 18:54.54 | poisonbit | :) |
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| 18:55.47 | ProGenY | Thnx guys socat did the trick |
| 18:56.13 | ProGenY | how would i remove apache2 from autostart on reboot and make socat run in background |
| 18:56.25 | Sweetshark | poisonbit: thanks anyway! |
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| 18:56.41 | poisonbit | update-rc.d -f apache2 remove |
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| 18:57.01 | poisonbit | Sweetshark, maybe you should subscribe to Debian Infrastructure Announce <debian-infrastructure-announce@lists.debian.org> |
| 18:57.09 | poisonbit | it should be a low traffic mailing list |
| 18:57.21 | stew | Sweetshark: no, don't use remove, use disable or rename the S links to K links |
| 18:57.35 | zappal | ProGenY: have a look in the runlevel |
| 18:57.43 | stew | (otherwise it gets reenabled on an upgrade) |
| 18:57.45 | zappal | ProGenY: runlevel? |
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| 18:58.21 | ProGenY | runlevel |
| 18:58.21 | ProGenY | N 2 |
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| 18:59.09 | zappal | then go to /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 18:59.13 | zappal | then |
| 18:59.26 | zappal | mv S91apache2 to K91apache2 |
| 18:59.29 | stew | poisonbit: search for "common system administration error" in man update-rc.d |
| 18:59.36 | zappal | the number 91 can change |
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| 19:01.21 | Sweetshark | stew: huh? |
| 19:01.48 | stew | Sweetshark: oh, sorry, not you |
| 19:01.59 | Cain | Hi, on a fresh Debian 6.0.1 install i have this ** eth0: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" ** is this 'bad' ? i'm capable of ssh on that box(IBM XSeries 335) |
| 19:02.19 | poisonbit | stew, I see, thanks |
| 19:03.00 | wols | Cain: install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 19:03.17 | zappal | you can start socat for example in there /etc/rc.local |
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| 19:03.33 | wols | Cain: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 19:05.20 | Cain | wols : thx |
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| 19:16.15 | hid3 | Is there any way to find out which PCI slot does a device occupy? This time it's a network card, so by IRQ number, MAC address, etc? |
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| 19:17.54 | LoneTech | hid3: for proper server hardware, there often is; for common PCs, not really |
| 19:18.40 | hid3 | believe it or not, phpsysinfo utility lists devices in their slot order. So by device pciid I found it |
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| 19:18.56 | hid3 | easy shot :) |
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| 19:19.48 | metrix | I can ping security.debian.org, but apt-get update fails trying to connect to the server. This has been going on for weeks. Is the server down? |
| 19:20.11 | stew | metrix: which ip address are you having trouble connecting to? and using what protocol? |
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| 19:21.39 | metrix | Protocol is http, the ip is: 128.101.240.212 |
| 19:22.12 | stew | seems to work for me |
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| 19:23.04 | metrix | As I said, I can ping, but the http request times out |
| 19:23.40 | stew | metrix: and "telnet 128.101.240.212 80" times out? |
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| 19:26.09 | novodinia | What is the process of downloading a package with its source and then compiling and installing the package? apt-get source --compile <package>? Where is the .deb file if this is the correct method? |
| 19:26.13 | metrix | no.. but as I am doing a apt-get update right now, I see this: |
| 19:26.26 | metrix | Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Sources |
| 19:26.32 | metrix | 99% [Waiting for headers] |
| 19:26.43 | metrix | it will sit there until timeout |
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| 19:26.53 | stew | metrix: but with telnet you can connect? |
| 19:26.58 | metrix | yes |
| 19:27.02 | stew | metrix: do you have a proxy configured in apt.conf? |
| 19:27.24 | metrix | not in apt conf, but I do have a proxy.. I will turn it off |
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| 19:28.06 | stew | you have a proxy defined in an env variable? or how? |
| 19:28.14 | metrix | http_proxy |
| 19:28.20 | metrix | I unset the variable |
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| 19:29.49 | metrix | ok, I turned off the proxy, unset http_proxy and run apt-get update just to be on the safe side. |
| 19:29.57 | metrix | I get the same issue: |
| 19:30.05 | metrix | Ign http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ lenny/updates/contrib Translation-en_US |
| 19:30.06 | MrFrood | novodinia: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html 7.13 |
| 19:30.07 | metrix | 99% [Waiting for headers] |
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| 19:31.09 | bla | Should initrd contain firmware for network cards? When server boots it's unable to locate firmware for network card, yet if I rmmod + insmod module it finds it without problems. I did update-initramfs -u, anything more? |
| 19:32.17 | thewanderer1 | bla, perhaps just append it to /etc/modules and then regenerate the initramfs |
| 19:32.58 | stew | metrix: i believe that means you are talking to security.debian.org successfully, or you wouldn't have gotten an Ign |
| 19:33.10 | stew | unless perhaps the Ign comes AFTER the timeout |
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| 19:34.10 | metrix | hmm.. |
| 19:34.28 | metrix | ok I will keep looking into it. |
| 19:34.42 | stew | metrix: check other urls in sources.list |
| 19:34.56 | metrix | It may be a pebkac issue on my side, I just don't see it yet. |
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| 19:35.57 | metrix | I will try all the URLS and make sure I can connect manually to all of them.. |
| 19:36.20 | metrix | Thank you for the help! |
| 19:36.48 | theemstra | goodday, has somebody got experience with gpg in combination with archives? (Tar bz), i would like to have this using my backups) and if not maybe other ways to do this? |
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| 19:38.07 | wols | theemstra: you can encrypt using openssl. lots of howtos out there |
| 19:38.37 | Hydrant_ | theemstra: are you backing up to tape |
| 19:38.41 | theemstra | wols: thanks, isn't that a little bit overdone for backups? |
| 19:38.46 | wols | http://www.madboa.com/geek/openssl/#encrypt-simple |
| 19:38.48 | theemstra | Hydrant_: haha |
| 19:39.00 | Hydrant_ | theemstra: ? |
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| 19:39.16 | wols | gpg is bigger to use with keys and certificates. openssl simply uses a password and you are done |
| 19:39.29 | theemstra | Hydrant_: to tape? i am backing up via rsync to another server of mine |
| 19:39.44 | Hydrant_ | theemstra: well, anyways, I just finished writing scripts for encrypting my tape backups |
| 19:39.56 | fishsponge_ | hey people... i've just added a zone to my default debian install (with bind9) and it's not working... can someone help if I explain further what i've done? |
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| 19:40.20 | fishsponge_ | well... basically, i've added the following line into named.conf.local: include "/etc/bind/named.conf.broadband.mongeese.co.uk"; |
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| 19:40.33 | zappal | fishsponge_: yes i think, i can help |
| 19:40.36 | bla | thewanderer1, ok, trying |
| 19:40.57 | zappal | fishsponge_: and how looks rhe zone file |
| 19:41.29 | zappal | fishsponge_: have a look at /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 19:41.38 | fishsponge_ | zappal, /etc/bind/named.conf.broadband.mongeese.co.uk then looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/2071685 |
| 19:41.47 | zappal | fishsponge_: mom |
| 19:41.51 | fishsponge_ | mom? |
| 19:42.05 | fishsponge_ | zappal, mom? |
| 19:42.17 | zappal | fishsponge_: moment |
| 19:42.51 | zappal | fishsponge_: could you poste the file db.broadband.mongeese.co.uk |
| 19:43.13 | vooze | Hey i have a big problem mounting my External harddrive.. Can someone please help?? All info is in here: http://pastebin.com/VAQyKc0R |
| 19:43.27 | fishsponge_ | zappal, "/etc/bind/db.broadband.mongeese.co.uk" then looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/2071687 |
| 19:44.28 | Hydrant_ | vooze: /dev/sdb is a block device, not a partition |
| 19:44.43 | fishsponge_ | zappal, "/etc/bind/db.10.168.192" then looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/2071689 |
| 19:44.47 | Hydrant_ | vooze: you can't really just mount the device itself (although perhaps if it's a usb drive you might be able to) |
| 19:44.57 | zappal | fishsponge_: ok wait |
| 19:45.22 | Hydrant_ | vooze: also, you have left out the parts of fdisk -l that I'd want to see |
| 19:45.25 | fishsponge_ | zappal, thanks... will wait gladly :-) |
| 19:45.53 | vooze | Hydrant_: okay, 2 secs :) |
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| 19:46.56 | theemstra | wols: Is this syntax correct? "openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -salt -in echo.tar -out echo.enc -pass file:pass.txt" |
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| 19:47.17 | Hydrant_ | theemstra: looks right |
| 19:47.30 | Hydrant_ | theemstra: you can also pipe the data in via stdin |
| 19:47.33 | theemstra | Hydrant_: Thanks |
| 19:47.47 | vooze | Hydrant_: http://pastebin.com/7gK0Lpw3 |
| 19:47.50 | theemstra | Hydrant_: okay, what would it do for me? |
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| 19:48.45 | Hydrant_ | vooze: you made two mistakes |
| 19:48.53 | Hydrant_ | vooze: first, the type is not ext2, it's ntfs |
| 19:49.01 | Hydrant_ | but I believe mount will help you with that |
| 19:49.04 | theemstra | wols: Hydrant_: how should I do this trick back? (decrypt)? |
| 19:49.15 | Hydrant_ | vooze: the other mistake is to use /dev/sdb rather than /dev/sdb |
| 19:49.22 | vooze | Hydrant_: hmm, thats weird.. because i formatet it with my linux desktop |
| 19:49.35 | Hydrant_ | vooze: in Linux /dev/sd* is the block device, /dev/sb*{1,2,...} is the partition |
| 19:49.41 | Hydrant_ | theemstra: add a -d so far as I know to decrypt |
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| 19:49.51 | Bartzy | Hi |
| 19:49.53 | Bartzy | in vim, How do I make shift + > go only one tab and not 2 ? |
| 19:49.58 | theemstra | Hydrant_: thanks, what does the -salt? |
| 19:50.16 | Hydrant_ | theemstra: also, using pipe just makes nice thing possible.... like dd if=file | openssl... | dd of=/dev/tape |
| 19:50.18 | wols | theemstra: the link I gave you tells you how |
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| 19:50.41 | theemstra | Hydrant_: wols: thanks a lot for helping me out! |
| 19:50.44 | Hydrant_ | theemstra: the salt makes it harder to break the encryption afaik, you can look it up on wikipedia |
| 19:50.55 | theemstra | thanks Hydrant_ |
| 19:51.03 | Hydrant_ | theemstra: be sure to print a copy of the key somewhere, because if you lose it you are toast |
| 19:51.06 | fishsponge_ | zappal, k, gimme a sec... |
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| 19:51.19 | fishsponge_ | ok, don't worry - i won't try it yet |
| 19:51.19 | theemstra | Hydrant_: yea! i will :) |
| 19:51.24 | theemstra | Thanks a lot! |
| 19:51.49 | fishsponge_ | zappal, yep, gimme a sec... |
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| 19:51.51 | foobar86 | Hi new to Debian and using Squeeze. I have a Nvidia card but I didn't install any drivers or anything. And yet, glxinfo |grep rendering returns yes. |
| 19:51.51 | thewanderer1 | why is Chromium taking over an HTTP 500 error page, despite me explicitly having turned off all error takeover options? |
| 19:51.52 | vooze | Hydrant_: hmm, thats weird! i just pluggin it onto my desktop.. it mounts just fine with ext3/4 |
| 19:51.59 | foobar86 | How and why this is happening? |
| 19:52.16 | foobar86 | Have moved over from Ubuntu so please bear with the why part. |
| 19:52.17 | wols | foobar86: nouveau /msg dpkg nouveau |
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| 19:52.59 | thewanderer1 | (the error page taken over is an empty document - Content-Length: 0; |
| 19:53.01 | thewanderer1 | ) |
| 19:53.15 | foobar86 | wols, it says that: DRI/3D support is not enabled but how do I get a yes then on the glxinfo part? |
| 19:53.27 | Hydrant_ | is anyone here familiar with tape drives, in particular the st driver? I'm getting strange errors that I can't figure out such as: st0: Error 50000 (driver bt 0x0, host bt 0x5) |
| 19:53.28 | fishsponge_ | zappal did you actually change db.broadband.mongeese.co.uk? i can't see any difference... |
| 19:53.32 | Hydrant_ | vooze: well, what type of partition should it be |
| 19:53.58 | zappal | fishsponge_: moment |
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| 19:54.13 | Hydrant_ | I think there is an issue with my SAS controller (asc-1045) but I can't figure out how to debug it... |
| 19:54.28 | vooze | Hydrant_: it just my external my book harddrive |
| 19:54.41 | fishsponge_ | zappal, yes - the router (which is *NOT* this debian box) should have an IP of 192.168.10.1 |
| 19:54.42 | vooze | that i formatet from ntfs to ext3 |
| 19:54.54 | zappal | fishsponge_: moment |
| 19:55.01 | fishsponge_ | zappal, ok. |
| 19:55.11 | Hydrant_ | vooze: is there data on there you don't want to lose ? |
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| 19:55.22 | fishsponge_ | zappal, also, it's worth noting that with the files as they are, bind9 restarts and runs fine. it just doens't know about these zones i've added |
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| 19:56.10 | vooze | Hydrant_: yeah.. well the harddrive have worked fine for about 3 months now. |
| 19:56.11 | zappal | fishsponge_: try this http://pastebin.ca/2071694 |
| 19:56.16 | fishsponge_ | zappal, dns_rdata_fromtext: /etc/bind/db.10.168.192:2: near '201105292011': out of range |
| 19:56.27 | fishsponge_ | zappal, zone 10.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading from master file /etc/bind/db.10.168.192 failed: out of range |
| 19:56.31 | vooze | Hydrant_: and still does in my ubuntu dekstop, it just in debian it fails i guess :( |
| 19:56.36 | fishsponge_ | zappal, zone 10.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. |
| 19:56.37 | Hydrant_ | vooze: you must have moved it to a different system, because what you showed me certainly is not setup right |
| 19:56.57 | fishsponge_ | zappal, same error for broadband.mongeese.co.uk too |
| 19:57.19 | vooze | Hydrant_: well i tryed using it on freebsd, without success, but i just pluggin it into desktop again, and all works fine |
| 19:57.24 | fishsponge_ | zappal, it looks like my serial number is out of range?!? |
| 19:57.32 | vooze | Hydrant_: back in server now, and still shows NTFS :( |
| 19:57.33 | zappal | fishsponge_: do the serial smaller 10 letters |
| 19:57.40 | Hydrant_ | vooze: what you pasted was: /dev/sdb1 (...) HPFS which shows the wrong type |
| 19:57.49 | fishsponge_ | i thought it was good practice to use the day's date and time for the serial number? |
| 19:57.50 | Hydrant_ | vooze: well, I'm sure they all show the wrong type with fdisk right |
| 19:58.01 | zappal | fishsponge_: like |
| 19:58.09 | Hydrant_ | vooze: change the partition type with fdisk (be very careful and prepared to potentially lose data if you make a mistake) |
| 19:58.12 | zappal | 2010072501 ; Serial |
| 19:58.26 | Hydrant_ | vooze: otherwise, there might be an option to force the type in mount |
| 19:58.49 | zappal | fishsponge_: paste your ptr zone file too |
| 19:59.19 | fishsponge_ | zappal, brb, need to make a quick sandwich (120 seconds or so...) |
| 19:59.28 | zappal | ok |
| 20:00.11 | vooze | Hydrant_: from fstab: /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 20:00.18 | foobar86 | Uhm anyone? I have issues with a Nvidia card and can't figure out what is happening. |
| 20:00.19 | vooze | Hydrant_: should i put in ext3 ? |
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| 20:00.44 | dualboot | fishsponge_: the serial number seems to have to fit into 32 bits - I solved it by leaving out the leading "20" while still retaining the minute. |
| 20:00.54 | Hydrant_ | vooze: not in fstab... the problem is the partition type itself is wrong! |
| 20:00.56 | JamezQ | how well in gnome 3 working in debian? |
| 20:01.00 | Hydrant_ | vooze: fix it with fdisk |
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| 20:01.26 | epsilon | foobar86: define "issue" |
| 20:01.52 | hydra | foobar86: use nouveau |
| 20:02.08 | foobar86 | But how come 3D rendering is working when I have not done anything? |
| 20:02.18 | vooze | Hydrant_: if i go to /media/usb0 the folder is empty, quite weird |
| 20:02.36 | hydra | vooze: unplug, plug, dmesg |
| 20:02.51 | foobar86 | glxinfo |grep rendering returns Yes. |
| 20:03.00 | hydra | foobar86: good for you |
| 20:03.08 | hydra | 3d rendering rules |
| 20:03.08 | foetus | :) |
| 20:03.17 | foobar86 | hydra, it's good but it's puzzling me. |
| 20:03.22 | hydra | why ? |
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| 20:04.01 | foobar86 | Because I did nothing! And the /msg dpkg nouveau says that it is packaged with 2.6.32-10. I am on 2.6.32-5. |
| 20:04.18 | foobar86 | And sorry for the n00bness, but I have come from Ubuntu where I just installed the restricted drivers, so... |
| 20:04.18 | hydra | well, opensource rules |
| 20:04.19 | hydra | xD |
| 20:04.20 | fishsponge_ | zappal, k, i'm back! |
| 20:04.25 | vooze | hydra: http://pastebin.com/rGn4U5wk |
| 20:04.26 | hydra | enjoy debian |
| 20:04.41 | fishsponge_ | zappal, nope, no MX records needed here. i'll take a look at your zone file though |
| 20:04.55 | hydra | vooze: as root mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk |
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| 20:05.10 | hydra | or whatever |
| 20:05.14 | zappal | fishsponge_: show you ptr file too |
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| 20:05.37 | hydra | vooze: if it's ntfs use ntfs-3g |
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| 20:06.04 | vooze | hydra: its not, its ext3, but it thinks it nfts |
| 20:06.19 | fishsponge_ | zappal, already pasted my ptr file... it's here: |
| 20:06.19 | hydra | vooze: mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk |
| 20:06.24 | foobar86 | Is there any way I can check which driver I am using? |
| 20:06.29 | fishsponge_ | zappal, "/etc/bind/db.10.168.192" then looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/2071689 |
| 20:06.31 | zappal | fishsponge_: give the link |
| 20:06.39 | foobar86 | Er, display. |
| 20:06.44 | vooze | hydra: ah worked with your previous command |
| 20:06.46 | Hydrant_ | vooze: your partition table is wrong, that is what you need to fix |
| 20:06.50 | zappal | fishsponge_: ui ui ui wait |
| 20:06.58 | fishsponge_ | zappal, k |
| 20:07.05 | hydra | vooze: well it works |
| 20:07.06 | vooze | hydra: / Hydrant_ i can see files now ;) |
| 20:07.20 | vooze | thanks for all your help |
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| 20:07.24 | hydra | from KDE you should be able to mount it too |
| 20:07.29 | hydra | don't forget to umount it |
| 20:07.44 | hydra | umount /mnt/disk/ |
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| 20:08.19 | vooze | umount: /mnt/ekstern: device is busy. |
| 20:08.24 | hydra | vooze: also fdisk -l helps to check available disks |
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| 20:08.36 | hydra | well, you have to be outside the directory |
| 20:08.39 | hydra | I mean, no one using it |
| 20:08.41 | Hydrant_ | hydra: his partition table shows the wrong type |
| 20:08.56 | fishsponge_ | zappal, current error is this: zone broadband.mongeese.co.uk/IN: NS '192.168.10.10.broadband.mongeese.co.uk' has no address records (A or AAAA) |
| 20:09.16 | zappal | fishsponge_: plz wait |
| 20:09.28 | hydra | vooze: also umount -f helps |
| 20:09.39 | fishsponge_ | zappal, i'm waiting... just feeding you information... not making any changes :-) |
| 20:09.45 | hydra | don't forget sync in case you write something, if you find yourself in troubles with umount |
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| 20:09.53 | hydra | (command sync) |
| 20:10.12 | vooze | hydra: / Hydrant_ i need to leave soon, but i allmost got it working, works alot for all your help :) |
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| 20:10.20 | hydra | no problem |
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| 20:11.30 | foobar86 | hydra, how about a little help here? :( I am totally confused. |
| 20:11.40 | zappal | fishsponge_: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/397331/ |
| 20:12.18 | zappal | fishsponge_: take care with the serial 10 letters |
| 20:12.27 | sterlo | Hey there. I'm trying to leave Ubuntu behind and get very familiar with Debian. One thing I'd like to do is track what's changing throughout the system. Basically, I'd like to use version control on the O/S itself. Any recommendations or docs that could help me out with this? I gave it a shot - and found that it wasn't as straight forward as I was hoping. |
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| 20:12.47 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: what are you trying to see ? |
| 20:12.53 | jelly-home | sterlo: gave what a shot? |
| 20:13.27 | fishsponge_ | zappal, thanks for that... have you changed anything apart from the serial number? if you've made other changes, i'll try it out... |
| 20:13.59 | sterlo | I'm trying to track things like, packages being updated/install and having a way of reverting if things go wrong. I installed git and just tried to version everything from / on down...it seemed to work at first, but as I drill down - things didn't work so well. |
| 20:14.04 | zappal | fishsponge_: take the serial 2011052901 for both files |
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| 20:14.19 | sterlo | Maybe version control isn't the right way to go about this - but it seemed like a good fit. |
| 20:14.21 | zappal | fishsponge_: i changed a lot |
| 20:14.37 | fishsponge_ | zappal, ok... let me test it out |
| 20:14.37 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: most version control is for text, and most of your system is binary data |
| 20:14.59 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: not to mention things like /dev which probably won't be sanely versioned |
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| 20:15.38 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: it sounds like what you need is to be able to use a good backup strategy, so that if something goes wrong you can revert to a backup of the system |
| 20:15.38 | sterlo | Hydrant_: Very good point. So what should i use for package management - being able to let's say, update nginx and finding out that it has a major flaw in it so I need to revert. |
| 20:15.59 | sterlo | Pretty much. I'd like to be able to login once and a while and see if anything has changed on the server itself |
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| 20:16.19 | sterlo | Like if a dev comes in and does anything - I'd like to know about it. |
| 20:16.23 | fishsponge_ | zappal, it looks like you've changed the NS record to point at my domain name... not the server. the server is called "mongoose" and my domainname is broadband.mongeese.co.uk - should I correct that? |
| 20:16.32 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: bacula can do this, but it is rather tricky to configure (keeps md5 sums of all files backed up) |
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| 20:17.08 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: if a dev comes in you want to know what? Why not just set decent security so that their permissions are appropriate to what they need to do, and they can do no more |
| 20:17.09 | zappal | fishsponge_: ok paste plz you orignal in that http://paste.pocoo.org |
| 20:17.19 | sterlo | no gui if possible |
| 20:17.20 | zappal | then i will have a look |
| 20:17.22 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: use things like sudo, learn how syslog works... this might be sufficient |
| 20:17.38 | sterlo | dev comes in and update the kernal |
| 20:17.47 | sterlo | and doesn't tell me |
| 20:17.55 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: if you want to track absolutely every change to everything ever done, you might want to do this at the filesystem level, but I'm not conversant with it because I've never been interested in such a crazy audit trail |
| 20:18.06 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: what dev... a worker at your site? |
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| 20:18.33 | wols | sterlo: install how? as a .deb or from source tar.gz? |
| 20:18.33 | sterlo | It's a VE with mediatemple, their kernals are a little behind - I don't expect them to inform me if they update them. |
| 20:19.04 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: VE? You aren't running debian then ? |
| 20:19.11 | sterlo | no I am |
| 20:19.49 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: well, I'm not familiar with the tools you describe... but if you give people permission to admin your system, unless you run it in a VM or something there is little you can do to track their actions afaik... root is root |
| 20:19.51 | sterlo | http://mediatemple.net/webhosting/ve/ <- "Ubuntu, CentOS, Debian, or Fedora. Installs take seconds with a minimal footprint." |
| 20:19.58 | GG_ | Hi guys, I might need some help here. I've configured ssh server with a no-ip dns. I've changed ssh_config file in /etc/ssh directory to listen on the 21543 port, then, I've opened and redirected port 21543 from my router to my debian machine. Now I can log on my ssh with "ssh -p 21543 192.168.1.xx" but when I try "ssh -p 21543 mywebname.no-ip.org", my shell is freezing, like waiting for an answer from the SSH. |
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| 20:20.09 | sterlo | ok |
| 20:20.19 | zappal | fishsponge_: which one is the server |
| 20:20.20 | GG_ | Sorry for this very long question, but is there something I've missed ? |
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| 20:20.45 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: you can do some crazy things at the kernel level, but I'm not familiar with them... if you don't have access to a physical server anyways, there is really little you can do |
| 20:20.50 | fishsponge_ | zappal, ok, the reverse zone works well. everything now looks like this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/397338/ |
| 20:21.00 | zappal | fishsponge_: moment |
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| 20:21.03 | wols | GG_: are you inside your lan when you try to connect to the no-ip.org domain? |
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| 20:21.13 | fishsponge_ | zappal, mongoose is the server. router is my router. "broadband.mongeese.co.uk" is my domainname |
| 20:21.14 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: you might find something I dont' know about though... if you'd like to just know what basic things have changed... you can do something simple... |
| 20:21.15 | sterlo | I'm getting the feeling that tracking everything is pointless. What SHOULD you track in the way of file changes? Is there a way to basically see the history of a server in it's entirety? Inception -> install xyz -> everything broke -> revert |
| 20:21.24 | wols | GG_: if so, your router could misbehave. try it from outside your lan only |
| 20:21.32 | zappal | fishsponge_: ok wait |
| 20:21.35 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: iterate over all files, take an md5sum at put into a list... then write a script that will do it again and diff the results |
| 20:21.55 | sterlo | Seems like that wouldn't work with things like ... /proc |
| 20:21.58 | sterlo | lol |
| 20:21.59 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: this should take you an hour or so to write, and would let you know if anything really changed... compare that with uptime and you'll know if anything changed |
| 20:22.08 | GG_ | wols: yes... But I also tried my http server (on the same machine) with the webname.no-ip.org from an outside computer, and that's the same behaviour, firefox freezed |
| 20:22.16 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: /proc is live data.... it's highly volatile by it's nature |
| 20:22.27 | sterlo | ok |
| 20:22.33 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: if you want to version /proc you need to go read some books the kernel ;-) |
| 20:22.38 | sterlo | haha |
| 20:22.39 | sterlo | ok |
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| 20:22.54 | sterlo | Thanks for the help. |
| 20:22.58 | Hydrant_ | sterlo: np |
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| 20:23.00 | sterlo | 07 |
| 20:23.02 | dualboot | sterlo: Seems like you might want something like tripwire |
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| 20:24.27 | sterlo | dualboot: tripwire seems like smoke and mirrors at first glance. I'm taking that on face value. |
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| 20:27.37 | boudiccas | i have this line in my root crontab .. 10 6,12,18,21 * * * /usr/bin/rsync -av /home/boztu/ /media/disk/`date +%Y%m%d`/>>/home/boztu/cron/backup.txt - which does not run via the roots crontab but does run when i run it from the command line. Why doesnt it run from the root crontab please? |
| 20:28.43 | fishsponge_ | zappal, you still there? |
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| 20:29.26 | Franklin | boudiccas, put it into a script and call this via crontab |
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| 20:29.45 | boudiccas | Franklin; thanks |
| 20:29.48 | garulf | Hi guys.. |
| 20:30.44 | garulf | anyone known some offline software for english pronuncation? Like a database of audio files for words |
| 20:31.04 | zappal | fishsponge_: try this ---> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/397348/ |
| 20:31.32 | fishsponge_ | zappal, k, gimme a sec |
| 20:31.35 | zappal | router |
| 20:31.39 | zappal | not route |
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| 20:32.41 | zappal | routeINA192.168.10.1 |
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| 20:32.49 | zappal | sorry |
| 20:33.02 | zappal | router IN A 192.168.10.1 |
| 20:33.16 | zappal | not route IN A 192.168.10.1 |
| 20:33.21 | zappal | did you get it |
| 20:35.11 | fishsponge_ | zappal, perfect! thank you so much! |
| 20:35.30 | zappal | fishsponge_: did you change route to router? |
| 20:35.32 | fishsponge_ | zappal, question - what's the difference between having nothing at the start of the line and just an @ symbol? |
| 20:36.14 | zappal | @ is a placeholder |
| 20:36.19 | fishsponge_ | zappal, yep - everything is good |
| 20:36.30 | zappal | the soa means |
| 20:36.39 | sidh | eventually, i can reach again the dedicated server since I added a second public IP on a dummy interface, tha problem was because of 2 default route and I had to use ip route/ ip rule to set priority, but one problem remains I can not ssh the server with the new IP, (sshd_config doesn't have liste eddress option), do you have an idea ? |
| 20:36.56 | fishsponge_ | zappal, ok, I meant the @ symbol at the start of the IN NS record, for example |
| 20:37.09 | zappal | SOA mongoose@broadband.mongeese.co.uk |
| 20:37.16 | zappal | root@broadband.mongeese.co.uk. |
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| 20:37.24 | zappal | do you understand? |
| 20:37.32 | fishsponge_ | i.e. what happens differently when the @ symbol is removed from the IN NS record to leave nothing there... (i.e. no symbol)? |
| 20:37.56 | fishsponge_ | zappal, I do understand the SOA... but the question was really the above... ^^ |
| 20:38.01 | zappal | the @ is a placeholder in the soa record you have to set it |
| 20:38.19 | fishsponge_ | @ IN NS fqdn. |
| 20:38.23 | fishsponge_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.27 | fishsponge_ | what's the difference? |
| 20:38.59 | zappal | the . will be an @ |
| 20:39.17 | zappal | you don't change plz the zone files |
| 20:39.31 | zappal | they will be right for you now |
| 20:39.36 | fishsponge_ | zappal, don't worry - i'm not going to change the zone files - they work now. I'm just keen to learn... :-) |
| 20:39.53 | zappal | if you put a @ in front |
| 20:40.14 | warpzero | lol |
| 20:40.22 | warpzero | tinydns forever! |
| 20:40.26 | warpzero | runs away |
| 20:40.27 | zappal | then it will do that: root.example.com will be root@example.com |
| 20:40.51 | zappal | fishsponge_: you understand now? |
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| 20:41.14 | fishsponge_ | ah... so "@ IN NS server.domain.com" means the nameserver for that zone is server@domain.com ? |
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| 20:41.23 | fishsponge_ | in other words, it's an invalid line |
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| 20:42.06 | zappal | fishsponge_: what shows now the cmd: host router.broadband.mongeese.co.uk |
| 20:42.41 | fishsponge_ | zappal, router.broadband.mongeese.co.uk has address 192.168.10.1 |
| 20:42.46 | zappal | and |
| 20:42.51 | zappal | host 192.168.10.1 |
| 20:42.56 | fishsponge_ | zappal, as I said earlier - everything works perfectly now :-) and in reverse too :-) |
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| 20:43.05 | fishsponge_ | zappal, 1.10.168.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer router.broadband.mongeese.co.uk. |
| 20:43.14 | fishsponge_ | zappal, and syslog looks happy too |
| 20:43.24 | zappal | fishsponge_: ok |
| 20:43.39 | ShadesEdge | Hello, I am on Arch Linux and I want to know if it is possible to change from Arch to Debian directly. |
| 20:44.47 | fishsponge_ | zappal, thanks again! i'm going to get some dinner now! :-) |
| 20:44.49 | fishsponge_ | see y'all! |
| 20:45.02 | zappal | fishsponge_: cya |
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| 21:02.11 | eb3ha4el | anyone using netbook? |
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| 21:04.37 | babilen | eb3ha4el: A lot of people do, but I doubt that this was your real question. |
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| 21:05.05 | foetus | haha |
| 21:05.18 | foetus | bye |
| 21:05.20 | blakkheim | ShadesEdge: define "directly" |
| 21:05.26 | eb3ha4el | babilen: I was just wondering if the speed I get from my netbook is normal or not.. |
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| 21:05.43 | eb3ha4el | babilen: have you used one? |
| 21:06.14 | babilen | I used one before, yes. But I don't have one ready now. |
| 21:07.19 | eb3ha4el | babilen: How long ago? I mean did it get slow when you open few tabs in browser? esp. those including movies like youtube? |
| 21:07.44 | babilen | It did, yes. |
| 21:08.12 | eb3ha4el | babilen: hmmm |
| 21:09.55 | eb3ha4el | babilen: Do you know if atom processor particularly slower when compared with those which has same Clock rate? |
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| 21:10.17 | babilen | eb3ha4el: If you have performance problem I would suggest to use less resource hungry software, such as a lightweight desktop environment (lxde,xfce) or window manager (awesomewm, fluxbox, dwm, openbox, xmonad, ...). A lighter browser such as kazehakaze, surf or w3m might be an idea too. |
| 21:10.39 | babilen | eb3ha4el: yes, netbooks are not necessarily known for they processing power :) |
| 21:10.46 | babilen | s/they/their |
| 21:10.47 | ShadesEdge | blakkhein: Without uninstalling all |
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| 21:11.38 | ShadesEdge | eb3ha4el: Which WM/DE are you using? |
| 21:12.09 | eb3ha4el | ShadesEdge: Openbox in Ubuntu with some gnome apps |
| 21:12.34 | blakkheim | ShadesEdge: you can backup your config files or save /home if it's on its own partition, but of course you will have to reformat to install debian |
| 21:13.18 | ShadesEdge | blakkheim: So what I could do is backup my configs and my home directory and then install Debian? |
| 21:13.25 | blakkheim | ShadesEdge: yes |
| 21:13.27 | eb3ha4el | babilen: yes, I was just shocked because it was much slower than I expected... |
| 21:13.43 | ShadesEdge | Which version is stable enough to work correctly (not to crash like Arch) |
| 21:13.56 | blakkheim | stable, as the name would imply |
| 21:14.12 | eb3ha4el | I thought 1.66Ghz was quite decent. |
| 21:14.24 | eb3ha4el | for netbook |
| 21:14.42 | eb3ha4el | I mean for browsing and watching things.. |
| 21:15.06 | t3a | what is the best way to emulate xp on debian? |
| 21:15.08 | ShadesEdge | blakkheim: First, I liked Arch Linux for being rolling release, but is there a stable rolling release for Debian? |
| 21:15.12 | ShadesEdge | :D |
| 21:15.19 | ShadesEdge | t3a: VMWare or Virtualbox |
| 21:15.26 | blakkheim | ShadesEdge there is sid but it's the least stable branch |
| 21:16.15 | ShadesEdge | blakkheim: Ok, but do I need to backup every time I update to one version to another (Example: Like in Ubuntu, 10.10 to 11.04) |
| 21:16.18 | ShadesEdge | ? |
| 21:16.40 | thewanderer1 | !tell ShadesEdge about cut |
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| 21:16.47 | thewanderer1 | eh |
| 21:16.50 | thewanderer1 | not THIS cut |
| 21:17.23 | thewanderer1 | ShadesEdge: well anyway, there's no official rolling release yet, and no, you don't have to backup everything (although it doesn't hurt!) |
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| 21:21.15 | eb3ha4el | babilen: Are those browsers you suggested capable of steaming videos as well? I sometimes use links2 and its fast but the fact that it cannot play any film is downside. |
| 21:22.24 | babilen | eb3ha4el: The first two yes |
| 21:22.51 | eb3ha4el | babilen: great thanks |
| 21:23.14 | swerve | server not booting after upgrade testing -> unstable |
| 21:23.31 | swerve | dragged it up from the basement, doesn't look good! |
| 21:23.48 | swerve | something abt config sysfs being deprecated |
| 21:24.07 | swerve | 'booting will continue, but many things will be broken' :-0 |
| 21:24.21 | swerve | then fsck dies with exit code 8 |
| 21:24.25 | simonlnu | update your kernel |
| 21:25.04 | swerve | 2.6.37.2 too old? |
| 21:25.15 | swerve | or i need a new setting? |
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| 21:29.11 | simonlnu | oh nm |
| 21:29.27 | simonlnu | is that a homebrew? |
| 21:29.47 | Calyp | yo haxorz.. is there some simple way to re-map caps-lock to become just a shift key? |
| 21:30.34 | swerve | the upgrade error msg said to run dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc, but no such command appears to exist |
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| 21:30.51 | swerve | i ran dpkg --configure sysv-rc instead, but it says it's up to date and already configured |
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| 21:32.10 | anettu | has this patch been ported to debian kernel? https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=24975 |
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| 21:33.12 | Hydrant_ | does anyone have experience debugging SAS controllers ? |
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| 21:34.07 | simonlnu | dpkg-reconfigure != dpkg --configure |
| 21:34.21 | simonlnu | swerve: in /usr/sbin |
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| 21:41.57 | cygnus | Hi when I was upgrading from legacy grub it said extracing command from /etc/default/grub but mine is in /boot/grub/ and so it found no command line, how can I fix this I am afraid when I reboot I wont be able to start |
| 21:42.58 | simonlnu | /etc/default/grub is a grub2 file |
| 21:43.32 | simonlnu | the config for it is generated and put in /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
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| 21:45.20 | swerve | simonlnu: reconfigured ok, migrated the boot process, but it says all my HDs are corrupt |
| 21:45.23 | simonlnu | the source files are in /etc/grub.d and modified with stuff from /etc/default/grub |
| 21:45.28 | swerve | failing fsck, bad superblock, etc |
| 21:45.33 | swerve | ? wtf? |
| 21:45.44 | swerve | upgrade didn't damage my disks, did it? |
| 21:45.54 | swerve | or is something wrong with fstab format? |
| 21:46.00 | swerve | in sid? |
| 21:46.10 | simonlnu | no, wouldn't. false msg. i can't recall the solution right now. |
| 21:46.23 | simonlnu | no, that format hasn't changed in years. |
| 21:47.25 | swerve | commented out all mounts except swap and /, see what happens |
| 21:48.00 | swerve | CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED must not be selected |
| 21:48.41 | swerve | I don't have any sysfs in fstab |
| 21:48.52 | swerve | oh wait - that's in kernel |
| 21:49.06 | swerve | need 2 rebuild kernel w/out sysfs looks like |
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| 21:49.13 | swerve | ? |
| 21:49.43 | thewanderer1 | just without the option it mentioned |
| 21:49.54 | simonlnu | no, without CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED |
| 21:50.02 | swerve | or maybe easier just to use a debian kernel |
| 21:50.04 | simonlnu | not with sysfs disabled. different. |
| 21:50.15 | swerve | simonlnu: right, deselect that option, iow |
| 21:50.22 | simonlnu | i asked you earlier if it was a homebrew |
| 21:50.31 | swerve | oh? sry, missed that |
| 21:50.38 | swerve | yes, for some reason i now forget, lol |
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| 21:51.24 | swerve | i can just install a deb kernel tho? see if it works? |
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| 21:52.12 | swerve | i've always just used a custom kernel, never had a problem b4 this |
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| 21:56.25 | simonlnu | yes, it'll work too |
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| 21:58.23 | swerve | if i install deb kernel & it doesn't work for some reason, i can just recompile custom & boot that from grub again, right? |
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| 21:59.43 | Calyp | Is there some simple way to re-map caps-lock to become just a shift key? |
| 22:00.07 | thewanderer1 | swerve: sure |
| 22:00.33 | swerve | thanks you guys, u've been a big help simonlnu thewanderer1 |
| 22:03.47 | simonlnu | have fun |
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| 22:07.46 | rudi_s | Calyp: xmodmap can do it - but why shift, IMHO ctrl is a better choice. |
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| 22:08.46 | Calyp | rudi_s: tnx, but i always press it by mistake when i'm using shift... i have a ctrl key near by =P |
| 22:09.05 | rudi_s | np |
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| 22:12.55 | swerve | um, what do i have to enter into apt-get for it to get the kernel? it says it can't find any that are listed on the debian website |
| 22:13.29 | swerve | apt-get kernel-image-2.6.32-5-486-di for example |
| 22:13.53 | swerve | or 686-bigmem-di etc. |
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| 22:14.31 | daemonkeeper | judd: kernels |
| 22:14.33 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.39-1-686-pae (2.6.39-1); wheezy: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-5); squeeze-backports: 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 (2.6.38-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-34squeeze1); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
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| 22:14.51 | daemonkeeper | The Squeeze backport does not work for you? |
| 22:14.54 | thewanderer1 | swerve: first, di is for the installer, second, you need "install" :P |
| 22:15.09 | swerve | hmm, those aren't listed in the search results for 'kernel' on the website |
| 22:15.24 | daemonkeeper | Because their name is not "kernel" |
| 22:15.29 | swerve | yeah, had install ;-) forgot to type it here |
| 22:16.04 | daemonkeeper | Kernels are called linux-image-[morehere] |
| 22:16.09 | swerve | it's not in the description? |
| 22:16.12 | swerve | weird |
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| 22:16.32 | daemonkeeper | Moreover you need to enable backports to get 2.6.38 |
| 22:16.35 | swerve | you'd have to know exactly which # you wanted, it seems |
| 22:17.02 | daemonkeeper | Depending on your distribution |
| 22:17.12 | swerve | daemonkeeper: can just get wheezy kernel 38, right? with testing repo? |
| 22:17.23 | daemonkeeper | Don't do that |
| 22:17.25 | swerve | pae = ? memory thing? |
| 22:17.26 | daemonkeeper | There is Squeeze backport |
| 22:17.29 | daemonkeeper | Yes |
| 22:17.45 | daemonkeeper | For computers with more than 4G RAM |
| 22:17.53 | swerve | so just go w/39 it looks like the best option |
| 22:18.07 | swerve | pae won't hurt performance for computers <4G right? |
| 22:18.11 | daemonkeeper | It does |
| 22:18.20 | simonlnu | was about to say.. |
| 22:18.20 | swerve | always a catch, lol |
| 22:18.35 | daemonkeeper | Hence there is a -486 image without PAE |
| 22:18.37 | swerve | now to go read on 'enabling backports' |
| 22:18.46 | thewanderer1 | aren't computers with >4G of RAM all amd64, anyway? |
| 22:18.49 | swerve | don't see Y can't just install wheezy image, tho |
| 22:18.51 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: No |
| 22:18.56 | daemonkeeper | !bdo |
| 22:18.56 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <backports-sloppy> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 22:19.17 | simonlnu | hell no |
| 22:19.25 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: Well, these days perhaps most are at least AMD64 capable. |
| 22:19.50 | swerve | this is amd XP, lol |
| 22:19.56 | swerve | just a small server |
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| 22:21.07 | joe6 | i have a xmonad setup with dual monitor on debian. Just bought a new keyboard with 5 macro programmable keys. wanted to check if you recommend any key-bindings that would be great to have as keys on their own? |
| 22:21.09 | micols | anybody know how to get per interface dns resolving ? |
| 22:21.29 | daemonkeeper | micols: Whatever you are trying to do, you do it wrong. |
| 22:21.35 | micols | eth1 should use one dns server, eth0 should use another |
| 22:21.54 | daemonkeeper | You can't do that. DNS resolving is not dependent by the interface, but the routing table. |
| 22:21.55 | micols | and reliably, without mixing each other, resolv.conf is clearly not the way |
| 22:21.59 | swerve | re: that BP link, i should use wheezy not squeeze, right? |
| 22:22.00 | simonlnu | uh, you do that in the server, not the interfaces |
| 22:22.13 | micols | iptables could probably do it |
| 22:22.17 | micols | wonder if there is some easier way |
| 22:22.20 | simonlnu | ... |
| 22:22.36 | daemonkeeper | Your DNS uses whatever your routing table points to for a particular destination address |
| 22:23.16 | thewanderer1 | daemonkeeper: there is no "destination address", there are just servers accessible by routes |
| 22:23.26 | tux0 | joe6 copy/paste? |
| 22:23.26 | tux0 | joe6 another to startup emacs |
| 22:23.31 | thewanderer1 | micols: err, I don't think you see one thing. when a program calls a DNS resolve, how does it know which interface/server it should use? |
| 22:23.49 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: Sure there is, its the DNS resolver and/or the authoritative NS you are connecting to |
| 22:23.57 | micols | routing table, but it asks resolv.conf before routing table I think |
| 22:24.21 | joe6 | tux0, good suggestions. I mostly use the mouse to copy/paste with X. I use vim and not emacs. Any other options that you can think of? |
| 22:24.24 | thewanderer1 | micols: no, look, there's a userspace process and it calls a function to resolve a name - now what? |
| 22:25.05 | joe6 | tux0, am just about to try the copy/paste keys. |
| 22:25.27 | thewanderer1 | the process is not eth0, nor is it eth1 - it's just a process. why would it choose one server over another in a manner different from other processes? |
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| 22:26.32 | daemonkeeper | Well, you can do that by using multihomng. DNS is a single UDP packet you can rotate over your interfaces for outgoing packets. I doubt it is worth the effort. |
| 22:27.26 | thewanderer1 | yeah, but it's only good for load balancing, not for something like "per-interface DNS" as requested (not that it would make any sense) |
| 22:27.34 | daemonkeeper | Indeed |
| 22:27.57 | swerve | oy vey - kernel dependency issues |
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| 22:35.27 | swerve | I just want to install a deb kernel so i can get around this sysfs issue & mount my drives |
| 22:35.32 | babilen | daemonkeeper: I guess you wanted <grounding> or the yet-to-be-written <introduction> (or whatev) factoid |
| 22:36.09 | daemonkeeper | No I wanted a nifty "Stable is <..>, testing is <..>, sid is ..." |
| 22:36.34 | swerve | i know what they are, just didn't know upgrading to sid would be so precarious in this way |
| 22:36.49 | babilen | swerve: Well, upgrading to sid was certainly not your wisest move in that case. Could you run "apt-show-version|grep -e '/sid'" and paste the output? |
| 22:36.54 | swerve | it kept many pkgs back that i thought would be the problematic ones |
| 22:37.07 | daemonkeeper | swerve: Well, now you are on sid which is unstable and therefore already including the packages which are backported to Squeeze |
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| 22:37.39 | daemonkeeper | swerve: So you can just disable the backports entry, moreover babilen is about to see whether you can go back to stable |
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| 22:38.41 | swerve | not showing an apt-show-version command in /usr/bin, /sbin/, or /usr/sbin |
| 22:38.42 | babilen | swerve: Run that command with "sid" replaced with "wheezy" too (if you have wheezy sources in your sources.list too) |
| 22:39.10 | babilen | swerve: Well, install it ;) |
| 22:39.25 | swerve | whereis or which don't show any apt-show-version |
| 22:39.37 | swerve | which one, lol |
| 22:39.37 | daemonkeeper | Hence you should install it |
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| 22:39.47 | swerve | *joke |
| 22:39.48 | DruidUnix | takes his Panzer tank and runs over the Communist Jew Richard Stallman's skull crushing it completely : http://tinyurl.com/cmua2q |
| 22:39.59 | DruidUnix | linux is for bitches and dumb ones at that ! |
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| 22:40.04 | babilen | swerve: btw, it is apt-show-versions not apt-show-version (sorry for the typo) |
| 22:40.21 | daemonkeeper | As workaround, dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}' helps as well |
| 22:40.32 | daemonkeeper | (I saved this script, babilen!) |
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| 22:41.08 | babilen | yeah, but it is so obvious that one will almost always come up with this solution |
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| 22:41.17 | bencc1 | when trying to switch user "su debarchiver" I'm giving the correct password but it gives me "su: Authentication failure" |
| 22:41.50 | swerve | command doesn't return anything |
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| 22:42.25 | daemonkeeper | Which one? |
| 22:42.46 | swerve | apt-show-versions |
| 22:43.12 | somiaj | bencc1: whose password are you giving, the one for the current user or the one for the user debarchiver? |
| 22:43.16 | swerve | apt-show-versions |grep -e '/sid' 2b more precise |
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| 22:44.05 | daemonkeeper | Give us the full output to a pastebin |
| 22:44.11 | daemonkeeper | (i.e. without grep) |
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| 22:44.52 | babilen | swerve: Pipe it into "pastbinit -b http://paste.debian.net" |
| 22:44.59 | babilen | pastebinit! |
| 22:45.13 | swerve | let's see if i have that. does debian have curlget? |
| 22:45.31 | swerve | n/m |
| 22:46.27 | bencc1 | somiaj: debarchiver doesn't have a password. giving mine |
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| 22:46.45 | bencc1 | somiaj: I need to create a gpg key for a different user |
| 22:46.58 | swerve | pastebinit has some module error: no module named configobj |
| 22:47.30 | somiaj | bencc1: su requires you login as the user you want to become. so you have to give debarchiver's password to login as debarchiver that way. If your root you don't need a password, so use that command as root or with sudo |
| 22:47.56 | swerve | *sigh* have 2 go in about 10 minutes - prob. won't get this today |
| 22:48.13 | swerve | 2B cont. 2morrow ... thx for help so far |
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| 22:49.48 | bencc1 | somiaj: tried it. it still show me root |
| 22:50.46 | babilen | swerve: Ok, before you make it worser. Remove sid from your sources.list and just hope that your system is fine (i.e. you haven't actually upgraded) |
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| 22:54.26 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 22:55.54 | daemonkeeper | dpkg: tell babilen about introduction |
| 22:55.56 | daemonkeeper | What do you think? |
| 22:56.25 | thewanderer1 | how would I make an encrypted filesystem inside a file? also, I'd like to avoid typing password - this is for an automated backup... |
| 22:56.55 | babilen | daemonkeeper: wonderful |
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| 22:57.41 | thewanderer1 | losetup and then mount -o loop,encryption=aes seems fine, but is password-based, while cryptsetup doesn't like loop files |
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| 23:00.05 | thewanderer1 | oh wait, LUKS works with losetup when I turn the file into a block device :P |
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| 23:06.07 | astartoth | May 30 00:00:22 entropia init: Id "co" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
| 23:06.22 | astartoth | can anyone help on this error? It's a wheezy fresh install |
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| 23:13.17 | thewanderer1 | ,versions faubackup |
| 23:13.17 | judd | Package faubackup on i386 -- lenny: 0.5.9 |
| 23:13.29 | thewanderer1 | !why is faubackup not in squeeze |
| 23:13.29 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, thewanderer1 |
| 23:13.47 | thewanderer1 | ,why is faubackup not in squeeze |
| 23:14.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | puts money on 'it was removed 2 years ago' |
| 23:14.31 | thewanderer1 | yeah, but I'm trying to find out "why", since it was a great piece of software :P |
| 23:14.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/faubackup.html |
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| 23:14.56 | daemonkeeper | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=520013 |
| 23:17.18 | thewanderer1 | thanks. dirvish it is, then :) |
| 23:18.02 | thewanderer1 | or, is there a way of just using rsync to make an incremental hardlink backup? |
| 23:19.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | not built into rsync |
| 23:21.04 | thewanderer1 | I liked faubackup for simplicity... now I see it's long gone :P |
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| 23:22.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm, dirvish doesn't seem all that alive itself |
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| 23:23.34 | babilen | it's working fine though |
| 23:25.43 | thewanderer1 | banks? vaults? w00t! I'm considering taking over faubackup... :P |
| 23:27.16 | babilen | thewanderer1: It sounds more horrible than it is -- there are always alternatives such as rsnapshot, rdiff-backup, backuppc or duplicity |
| 23:27.54 | thewanderer1 | rdiff-backup sounds like using an appalling diff format rather than hardlinks O.o |
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| 23:28.08 | simonlnu | it does |
| 23:28.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | i have rsnapshot and rdiff-backup installed, i should really set up one of them *g* |
| 23:28.12 | somiaj | thewanderer1: rdiff-backup is nice. |
| 23:28.24 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: I don't know our tool, but right yesterday I reviewed another simple backup script collection on debian-mentors which might suit your needs |
| 23:28.24 | thewanderer1 | yeah, but I don't want any diffs, I just want hardlinks :P |
| 23:28.28 | simonlnu | rdiff-backup is slow though |
| 23:28.59 | thewanderer1 | trying out rsnapshot |
| 23:29.08 | daemonkeeper | thewanderer1: http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2011/05/msg00473.html |
| 23:29.19 | babilen | rsnapshot is good if you *never* miss a backup (i can't use it on my lappie) |
| 23:29.31 | simonlnu | was slow though, due to underlying transport (ssh, cross an ocean) |
| 23:30.06 | thewanderer1 | daemonkeeper: thanks... seems complex enough :P |
| 23:30.16 | simonlnu | http://xrl.us/bkp7ch |
| 23:30.17 | thewanderer1 | babilen: hm, what do you mean? |
| 23:30.50 | thewanderer1 | do I lose all data if I miss a backup? :P |
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| 23:31.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | i'm trying to get rsnapshot set up so it bacups up every time i plug in the backup drive. getting udev to play my way is providing difficult though |
| 23:31.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | anyway, bbl :) |
| 23:32.53 | babilen | thewanderer1: No, not that ... The point is that rsnapshot uses names such as "daily" "weekly" "monthly" and so on, they are rotated regularly, and dailies flow over to weeklies -- If you miss a cron job (because e.g. the external harddrive is not plugged in) you might never get to the point that weeklies are created |
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| 23:33.14 | babilen | thewanderer1: The names don't actually mean anything |
| 23:34.08 | babilen | I ditched rsnapshot because my external hd is not always plugged in and it messed up the backups |
| 23:34.18 | thewanderer1 | oh. |
| 23:35.49 | thewanderer1 | fine... I'll get faubackup :P |
| 23:37.16 | thewanderer1 | (it's also the only solution that does not seem to require Perl...) |
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| 23:38.24 | babilen | I am quite happy with dirvish now fwiw (although it does not look too maintained these days) |
| 23:39.33 | simonlnu | seems a bit neglected |
| 23:39.38 | babilen | last commit was on "Wed Jan 19 22:39:51 2011" so it is definitely not dead |
| 23:39.50 | thewanderer1 | heh, last faubackup release is from 2004 |
| 23:39.52 | thewanderer1 | time to revive it |
| 23:40.08 | simonlnu | oh |
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| 23:40.27 | thewanderer1 | at least there are no Perl compatibility problems... C doesn't change often :D |
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| 23:41.06 | daemonkeeper | C changed more recently than Perl! |
| 23:41.52 | thewanderer1 | breaking compatibility? :P |
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| 23:42.54 | daemonkeeper | Sort of, although Perl does not break compatibility since over a decade, it ain't PHP. |
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