| 00:00.00 | sudoman | no big deal though, i can wait :) |
| 00:00.42 | themill | Kamping_Kaiser: I wasn't sure how public the alioth maintainers wanted the titanpad page |
| 00:01.19 | toxboi | soapie: gulf of mexico? |
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| 00:02.21 | soapie | toxboi: a bad joke :c |
| 00:02.24 | sudoman | toxboi: it's where you'll find the answer to the answer to my question. :) |
| 00:03.04 | toxboi | soapie: oh sorry, I missed the sarcasm. Watching a lot of Sheldon Cooper these days. |
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| 00:06.12 | republican_devil | sarcasm is nerdy |
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| 00:10.28 | soapie | your butt is nerdy |
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| 00:10.39 | soapie | >:c |
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| 00:11.49 | PhoenixSTF | soapie, having a bad mod are we? |
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| 00:13.23 | PhoenixSTF | republican_devil, hdparm -t /dev/md0 Timing buffered disk reads: 534 MB in 3.00 seconds = 177.88 MB/sec |
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| 00:17.57 | PhoenixSTF | republican_devil, not bad :) |
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| 00:23.00 | qwd | Any reason not to use Iceweasel from http://mozilla.debian.net ? Would it be better to wait for it to come to backports? |
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| 00:23.30 | republican_devil | run ti 4 times |
| 00:23.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | Theoden: fair enough |
| 00:23.32 | republican_devil | run it 4x |
| 00:23.35 | republican_devil | what slike avg |
| 00:23.37 | republican_devil | NOT BAD |
| 00:23.40 | republican_devil | :) |
| 00:23.42 | republican_devil | not too shabby |
| 00:23.45 | republican_devil | now throw away SAN |
| 00:23.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | Theoden: er, sorry |
| 00:23.53 | republican_devil | run postgresql or firebird on softriad |
| 00:24.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | themil left on me -.- |
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| 00:25.54 | PhoenixSTF | republican_devil, ok ran it 4 time |
| 00:26.31 | PhoenixSTF | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.52 | PhoenixSTF | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:27.05 | republican_devil | nice |
| 00:27.11 | republican_devil | you can serve ot of porn from that |
| 00:27.15 | republican_devil | lot |
| 00:27.16 | PhoenixSTF | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.22 | republican_devil | wow |
| 00:27.36 | republican_devil | got a bond to allow netowrk speed? |
| 00:27.40 | republican_devil | network |
| 00:27.41 | PhoenixSTF | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.54 | PhoenixSTF | got a what? |
| 00:28.08 | PhoenixSTF | my network is all in Gigabit |
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| 00:29.10 | republican_devil | well bond 2 of them to get twice speed |
| 00:29.17 | republican_devil | then fix switch and upstream too |
| 00:29.21 | republican_devil | BAM |
| 00:29.33 | republican_devil | serving tons of of stuff in no time |
| 00:29.40 | republican_devil | try cherokee or aolserver |
| 00:30.25 | PhoenixSTF | trunk 2 network cards! ya i tough of that |
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| 00:31.05 | PhoenixSTF | its my home server, maybe on day ill put it on a DataCenter :) |
| 00:33.04 | abrotman | qwd: it's up to you .. they may be buggy |
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| 00:34.12 | gsp2009 | can someone tell me the best way to add a user to be a sudoer? just add the user to the sudo group? |
| 00:34.37 | abrotman | you can do that .. depends what permissions you wan tthem to have |
| 00:35.01 | MrFrood | qwd: think of it as being the same as installing from experimental in terms of risk |
| 00:35.23 | gsp2009 | well it is for me to be able to just sudo instead of using root terminal all the time. |
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| 00:35.36 | qwd | abrotman: MrFrood: Thanks. Guess I'll wait and see if it ends up in official backports. |
| 00:35.58 | MrFrood | gsp2009: su -c 'comand' |
| 00:36.31 | gsp2009 | hmmm ok. will try that thanks. |
| 00:37.14 | MrFrood | gsp2009: quotes only needed if the command has options |
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| 00:38.05 | gsp2009 | ok so if I do something like say pipe to grep I would put in quotes? |
| 00:38.22 | MrFrood | eg su -c ls is ok as is su -c 'ls -lia' but su -c ls -lia is not ok |
| 00:39.25 | gsp2009 | hmmm ok |
| 00:39.49 | gsp2009 | thanks. |
| 00:40.00 | MrFrood | np |
| 00:40.35 | PhoenixSTF | cya tomorow guys |
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| 00:41.09 | republican_devil | pipe grep quotes? |
| 00:41.12 | republican_devil | what u doing? |
| 00:42.06 | MrFrood | republican_devil: su -c |
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| 00:42.29 | MrFrood | see above |
| 00:43.44 | jonesst1 | if i want to re-run a packages installer help script again what's the command? dpkg something? |
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| 00:44.11 | stew | jonesst1: do you mean "dpkg-reconfigure packagename"? |
| 00:44.15 | PhoenixSTF | republican_devil, just one question cherokee and aolserver? |
| 00:44.17 | PhoenixSTF | what are they? |
| 00:44.27 | jonesst1 | thanks i think so |
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| 00:44.32 | jonesst1 | looks right |
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| 00:49.10 | robokop | i installed mediawiki but it takes over all my *.example.com domains except for the ones i really specified as existing, how can i change it so that my default is providing *.example.com again? |
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| 00:50.16 | dserban | I have a package that I can't remove :).. slapd. (or install/configure/purge) for that matter. Looks like I have to manually remove the offending pos. Is there a good howto for this? |
| 00:50.51 | dserban | dpkg: error processing slapd (--remove): |
| 00:50.52 | dpkg | dserban: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 00:50.53 | dserban | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.55 | dserban | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.58 | dserban | oh oops sorry 'bout that. |
| 00:51.13 | skiz | dserban: answering your own q's eh? |
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| 00:51.42 | dserban | skiz: heh no, just tried to paste a one-liner error. |
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| 00:52.38 | skiz | dserban: dpkg -L slapd and see what files are in the package, pre/post remove is probably doing it |
| 00:52.51 | crn | if i use debian i386 for an i7 processor what 64 bit features of the i7 are used? |
| 00:52.54 | skiz | that and dpkg --truncate it once you clean it. |
| 00:53.00 | abrotman | crn: none? |
| 00:53.11 | abrotman | dserban: man dpkg .. there is an option to force remove reinst req |
| 00:53.19 | dserban | skiz: so you say, remove all the files by hand? |
| 00:53.27 | skiz | I fix the issue |
| 00:53.36 | skiz | or comment out the failing part and do it itself |
| 00:53.37 | crn | abrotman, thanks |
| 00:53.54 | dserban | yikes :/ it's pretty dirty. |
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| 00:54.20 | abrotman | crn: in reality, the i386 is really 486, and it's really the kernel, the packages are all 486 targeted in i386 |
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| 00:54.49 | abrotman | dserban: no .. use the --force-remove-reinstreq |
| 00:55.01 | abrotman | dserban: removing it by hand is a horrible idea |
| 00:55.27 | crn | abrotman, thanks. so i should use amd64. |
| 00:55.39 | dserban | abrotman: is that dpkg? |
| 00:56.08 | abrotman | crn: unless you have some binary-only 3rd party package needs |
| 00:56.15 | abrotman | dserban: i told you to man dpkg |
| 00:56.17 | dserban | abrotman: nvm |
| 00:56.18 | MrFrood | abrotman: arn't the packages 586 now? |
| 00:56.26 | abrotman | nope |
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| 00:56.42 | dserban | abrotman: sorry missed that one |
| 00:56.59 | MrFrood | though there was an unintention snafu with the auto build process? |
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| 00:57.25 | MrFrood | *unintentional |
| 00:57.37 | MrFrood | *thought |
| 00:57.44 | dserban | abrotman: thanks that worked a charm. |
| 00:58.48 | rypervenche | What is that file in Debian that shows the language preferences like LC=(language name) ? |
| 00:59.26 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.08 | rypervenche | Thank you |
| 01:00.20 | rypervenche | I guess mine doesn't have it. |
| 01:01.18 | MrFrood | abrotman: http://lists.debian.org/debian-gcc/2011/05/msg00095.html |
| 01:01.41 | abrotman | MrFrood: that wouldn't be for stable |
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| 01:03.17 | abrotman | MrFrood: the tail of that doesn't make much sense ? |
| 01:03.58 | MrFrood | stable uses gcc-4.4 ? |
| 01:04.00 | crn | abrotman, i think i don't have 3rd party needs for 32 bits. |
| 01:04.05 | dserban | abrotman: seems that I ran that dpkg command in the wrong terminal window... the package is hosed huge. Are there any other methods to force removal? |
| 01:04.38 | crn | abrotman, i want to use lapac and other math utililties |
| 01:04.39 | abrotman | dserban: maybe you sohuld try a pastebin to show us the error instead of us guessing |
| 01:04.46 | abrotman | crn: you can try it .. |
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| 01:05.14 | crn | abrotman, right. i'll try them. |
| 01:06.14 | abrotman | MrFrood: doesn't it say 4.5 ? |
| 01:06.17 | abrotman | may have misread |
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| 01:06.51 | abrotman | MrFrood: i did misread .. bad things are happening! |
| 01:07.21 | jonesst1 | does debain have any config tools for ldap setting up? |
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| 01:07.25 | MrFrood | heh - we both have misread tonight :P |
| 01:07.34 | jonesst1 | doh |
| 01:07.42 | jonesst1 | debian |
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| 01:07.57 | rypervenche | Is there a difference between changing the language in GDM and doing dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 01:08.38 | MrFrood | thinks abrotman is doing better than MrFrood as abrotman did not get told off by jelly |
| 01:08.55 | abrotman | MrFrood: i have in the past :) |
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| 01:09.14 | MrFrood | giggles (again) |
| 01:10.04 | dserban | http://paste.debian.net/119158 <-- my slapd problem |
| 01:10.16 | abrotman | MrFrood: pretty much everyone has told me off at some point .. that's the danger of being an old fart |
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| 01:10.46 | abrotman | dserban: touch /etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config.ldif |
| 01:10.53 | MrFrood | YAY for old farts :) |
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| 01:11.47 | stew | !fart abrotman |
| 01:11.47 | dpkg | farts in abrotman's general direction. Go away, or I shall taunt you a second time! |
| 01:11.59 | abrotman | sulks |
| 01:12.31 | jonesst1 | me passes abrotman a zimmer frame |
| 01:12.40 | jonesst1 | how old btw? |
| 01:12.44 | abrotman | hands jonesst1 a . |
| 01:12.46 | abrotman | hands jonesst1 a / |
| 01:13.14 | dserban | http://paste.debian.net/119159 <-- after I touch the file |
| 01:13.19 | MrFrood | does a lot more than just giggle |
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| 01:13.55 | abrotman | dserban: all those files it says don't exist .. 'touch' them |
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| 01:14.44 | dserban | abrotman: oh I only saw the cries of no pid specified... ok |
| 01:15.29 | jonesst1 | anybody got debian talking to freeipa? and got some notes? |
| 01:16.08 | dserban | abrotman: aye, once I touched the last one, it just fails with the rest of the message, ie.. no pid specified etc.. |
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| 01:17.57 | abrotman | dserban: you're going to have to debug the postinst script |
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| 01:19.34 | dserban | abrotman: yeah, I've tried that, but I'll give it another go. |
| 01:19.45 | abrotman | dserban: putting a set -x after the shebang might help |
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| 01:22.51 | dserban | it's the pid part in the invoke-rc.d call, the init script seems broken, but I knew that, I either a. want to install it then remove it, or just remove it, in both cases it complains that the pid has not been specified... how odd, and I can't find a bugreport. |
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| 01:23.37 | abrotman | comment out the broken line |
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| 01:25.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm... i just discovered a VM which still calls itself squeeze/sid :s |
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| 01:26.25 | Jef91 | Does debian 6 have armel images hiding somewhere? |
| 01:27.38 | abrotman | the arm images |
| 01:28.01 | Jef91 | Anyone know of a good guide for setting up the armel images in qemu? |
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| 01:32.39 | stew | Kamping_Kaiser: that's better than finding one that is labelled, "testing/unstable" ; you at least know what to do with yours, which is to upgrade it to squeeze |
| 01:33.53 | Jef91 | Getting a "boot failed: could not read from cdrom (code 0004)" with the armel image in qemu... Any ideas? |
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| 01:35.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | stew: fair point |
| 01:35.37 | wireddd | ok, so I am going to dist upgrade from etch to lenny and then to squeeze, I shouldn't have any problems right? |
| 01:35.58 | Jef91 | wireddd thats like flipping a coin |
| 01:36.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | wireddd: hopefully not :) be sure to read the release notes |
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| 01:36.33 | wireddd | I tried to dist-upgrade from etch to squeeze, that was a disaster |
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| 01:47.06 | SushiDude | Hi guys, my friend is having computer issue |
| 01:47.07 | SushiDude | s |
| 01:47.07 | SushiDude | s/issue/issues |
| 01:48.25 | chrissbx | How does it happen that on one squeeze system the initrd comes with an emergency shell that has completion, and on another one, it doesn't? |
| 01:48.49 | SushiDude | He booted in to Debian, and was automaticly launched in to TTY1. He attempted to get in to the graphic TTY but failed, he tried startx and it did not work. |
| 01:49.09 | abrotman | SushiDude: did he install xorg or a DM/DE ? |
| 01:49.13 | abrotman | erm .. WM/DE ? |
| 01:49.31 | SushiDude | He installed GNOME |
| 01:49.39 | SushiDude | From the LIVECD |
| 01:49.44 | abrotman | did he also install gdm ? |
| 01:49.47 | chrissbx | Also, on that latter system, I'm left with an emergency initrd prompt that comes without cryptsetup, in spite of my root volume being encrypted. Time for getting GRML I guess? Grr. And any idea how to fix it? |
| 01:49.47 | abrotman | and xorg ? |
| 01:50.00 | SushiDude | It was working before.. |
| 01:50.08 | SushiDude | but it just stopped. |
| 01:50.08 | abrotman | before what? |
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| 01:50.54 | SushiDude | He installed, rebooted.. and then shutdown, left it for a while, came back, and started it back up. |
| 01:51.11 | morphic | hi. i have a ia64 netinst iso, i tried to dd it into a pendrive, but it doesn't boot. the x86 iso works fine, can I use the same procedure to both? |
| 01:51.12 | SushiDude | He can't get in to the GUI |
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| 01:51.33 | Arrowmaster | morphic: ia64 is probably not what you want |
| 01:51.46 | Arrowmaster | morphic: try amd64 |
| 01:51.52 | morphic | Oo |
| 01:51.58 | SushiDude | He was having lots of GUI issues in Fedora too... |
| 01:52.07 | morphic | Arrowmaster: rigth :P |
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| 01:52.24 | morphic | thanks, lemme give it a try |
| 01:52.38 | SushiDude | any ideas? |
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| 01:53.34 | chrissbx | How does the initrd handling in Debian really work? Anyone knows where to look? |
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| 01:55.34 | SushiDude | I think the hard drive or graphics card may be failing, but he can't run a SMART scan right now.. |
| 01:56.22 | SushiDude | It is a 6 year old Dell... |
| 01:58.54 | Gump_ | hey #debian, my print screen key isn't working anymore. normally gnome pops up a window to save the screencap as. not even sure where to start looking on this one |
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| 02:15.17 | CableNinja | did an upgrade sunday, rebooted after it, worked fine, I disconnected my server and took it toward the datacenter this morning, it sat for about 8 hours, and then I went to boot it back up, I now get an instant kernel panic, its large and I cant read it, so far the only thing I've seen is that ata1 (no idea what drive that turns out to be) is having issues, its got 3 drives, 2 ide, one sata, one of the ide's is the bootable, the other blan |
| 02:15.17 | CableNinja | k, the sata is for storage... wondering if anyone has any suggestions to this? |
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| 02:19.37 | linux-fox | hi,all |
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| 02:22.29 | chaim | anyone know a phenomena, that all processes go to S mode |
| 02:22.31 | chaim | ? |
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| 02:22.49 | linux-fox | what |
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| 02:23.15 | chaim | in htop all my processes have S in the S column |
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| 02:24.24 | chaim | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:24.33 | chaim | and my session is frozen |
| 02:24.57 | chaim | and i don't know what it wait for |
| 02:25.03 | phix | Are smtp clients supposed to comply with RFC2554? or is this still optional? |
| 02:25.32 | phix | The reason I ask is because the exim package in debian forces RFC2554 authentication and fails if it isn't complied with |
| 02:25.50 | abrotman | i'd probably ask the channel for the smtp server you're trying |
| 02:26.08 | phix | abrotman: so it isn't a debian package configuration issue? |
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| 02:26.22 | abrotman | it could be a configuration option ? |
| 02:26.45 | kdog | what is the incantation for doing --set-selections and then installing them? |
| 02:27.09 | abrotman | !tell kdog about debian clone |
| 02:27.13 | abrotman | !tell kdog about aptitude clone |
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| 02:28.07 | rxt0 | hi there guys, i'm building a new system, and I'm wondering if the Phenom II X6 is well supported uner squeeze's kernel |
| 02:28.25 | abrotman | it's probably more about the supporting pieces, not the cpu |
| 02:28.38 | rxt0 | 890GX chipset |
| 02:29.06 | kdog | slaps forehead.....the dselect-upgrade |
| 02:29.19 | kdog | thanks abrotman! |
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| 02:37.05 | e09h3 | [** | NOTICE | **] ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU! [** | NOTICE | **] e09h3 vikramverma Zuu carnage777999 mns althalus DimmuR rxt0 ZeroHour willmore kishy Cain chaim sameerthahir blackshirt linux-fox skiz tomaw chokesmaster un214 a |
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| 02:37.17 | tyuy8o | [** | NOTICE | **] ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU! [** | NOTICE | **] tyuy8o vikramverma Zuu carnage777999 mns althalus DimmuR rxt0 ZeroHour willmore kishy Cain chaim sameerthahir blackshirt linux-fox skiz tomaw chokesmaster un214 ava |
| 02:37.17 | tyuy8o | [** | NOTICE | **] ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU! [** | NOTICE | **] llimeht kb3gtn Dibbler Sander^work mjmt D4rKr0W Gump_ Dad` streuner itchi shauno psycodad wolfric zand ranix isaac1024 sedulous ryanlin deepy Lisamo b13n1u Azrael_- |
| 02:37.17 | tyuy8o | [** | NOTICE | **] ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU! [** | NOTICE | **] dasher Fredo42 omeddragon JohnTortugo dougvann AcTiVaTe SushiDude slvmchn Judas_PhD Stupendoussteve Azhrarn_ Naenyn phorce1 andatche symptom elky soapie Bry8Star|Un |
| 02:37.30 | skiz | wtf bots |
| 02:37.47 | un214 | I take it that's bogus |
| 02:37.49 | Gump_ | is tyuy8o spamming? |
| 02:37.50 | Naenyn | sighs. |
| 02:37.52 | ZeroHour | lmfao |
| 02:38.11 | kishy | i've seen those a thousand times - but something i don't get is, why are they directing us to go to the real help channel |
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| 02:38.39 | kishy | shouldnt they be sending us to a fraudulent help channel where they can tell us to download ...well, i guess this is #debian, but...document.exe to read how to do it? |
| 02:38.45 | dondelelcaro | just ignore them, please. (that also means don't discuss them here.) |
| 02:38.48 | skiz | "And one final word about announcements: any major change to the network’s operations (like, say, requiring SASL) would be announced properly through the website and/or blog. We might also announce it over IRC using a global notice or wallop" |
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| 02:39.04 | dasher | i think they're trying to hack you |
| 02:39.07 | kishy | dondelelcaro: yeah, everyone says that, everywhere. |
| 02:39.13 | abrotman | please drop it, back to Debian please |
| 02:39.35 | skiz | yeah so debian is cool.. uhm... |
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| 02:39.37 | dasher | abrotman, before the spam, this channel was deader than fried chicken. no one talking |
| 02:39.38 | kishy | you're just as bad as them then...jus' sayin. |
| 02:39.55 | soapie | kishy: I think they just generally want to be annoying |
| 02:40.04 | abrotman | that doesn't make it okay to discuss, drop it, move along |
| 02:40.15 | puff | I'm trying to sort out apache2, php and GD, on debian squeeze. I have this php script that uses GD, worked fine on lenny, migrated to squeeze and now I get an error. |
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| 02:40.22 | yue6t654 | [** | NOTICE | **] ON JULY 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU! [** | NOTICE | **] yue6t654 celthunder puff avacore agrundner vikramverma Zuu carnage777999 mns althalus DimmuR ZeroHour willmore kishy Cain chaim sameerthahir blackshirt linux-fox |
| 02:40.23 | puff | http://darksleep.com/puff/woodworking/hamilton_tools/ |
| 02:40.27 | dasher | abrotman, ok, 1000+ people back to not talking, gotcha |
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| 02:40.40 | kishy | dasher: cheers. |
| 02:40.50 | dasher | cheers |
| 02:40.50 | willmore | What's a SASL? Anything like a SASE? |
| 02:40.53 | skiz | puff: check your phpinfo() and look at the php site regarding installing GD |
| 02:41.01 | dasher | don't be a SASL-hole |
| 02:41.03 | soapie | willmore: fancy login thing |
| 02:41.12 | kishy | anyone know the M68K port channel |
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| 02:41.20 | kishy | or is that in here too |
| 02:41.24 | willmore | Client side cert for SSL? |
| 02:41.25 | abrotman | kishy: it would be on irc.oftc.net if there still is one |
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| 02:41.40 | kishy | thanks abrotman |
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| 02:41.55 | abrotman | kishy: #debian-68k on irc.oftc.net |
| 02:41.56 | kishy | i have doubts it does exist, seems like all m68k activity died years ago |
| 02:42.08 | kishy | oh wow...i'll pop in there and see how active it is |
| 02:42.14 | abrotman | 6 people |
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| 02:42.53 | puff | skiz: phpinfo() says GD is installed. |
| 02:42.57 | puff | skiz: http://darksleep.com/puff/woodworking/info.php |
| 02:43.03 | ZeroHour | -_- |
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| 02:44.08 | skiz | puff: well then dunno, debug the script then, or try another to verify GD is working. Doesn't seem to be a debian related issue though. |
| 02:44.48 | hamush | hi, i'm on debian lenny and i find myself on a lot of networks that give my ipv6 dns results without ipv6 connectivity. is there a way to disable ipv6 on those connections without disabling ipv6 across the board on all connections? |
| 02:44.48 | abrotman | pretty sure this is known |
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| 02:48.12 | puff | skiz: Okay, mainly I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some debian-specific thing, like "oh you forgot to install lib-gd-php etc" |
| 02:48.20 | puff | skiz: Ah, got it figured, it was a write permission problem. |
| 02:48.25 | puff | skiz: Thanks for the help. |
| 02:48.32 | skiz | puff: nope if it's in phpinfo, its all good. ah glad you got it worked out |
| 02:49.32 | puff | skiz: Cool, thanks again. |
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| 02:51.57 | kishy | so, i'm not a particularly big linux guy...please don't fault me for it :) but i run debian on my little web server box |
| 02:52.10 | kishy | i'm on stable (lenny), set it up while it was current |
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| 02:52.36 | abrotman | lenny is not stable, lenny is oldstable, squeeze is stable |
| 02:52.41 | kishy | being not terribly linux savvy perhaps someone can advise me of this...through apt-get upgrade, will it ever try to get me the newer version of grub? |
| 02:52.44 | kishy | sorry, oldstable. |
| 02:53.04 | kishy | the newer version of grub doesn't boot on this box |
| 02:53.09 | kishy | which is naturally an issue. |
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| 02:54.02 | abrotman | kishy: it doesn't? you can put it on hold |
| 02:54.07 | abrotman | kishy: did you try grub2 ? |
| 02:54.21 | kishy | abrotman: 2 is what doesn't work |
| 02:54.28 | kishy | just sort of hangs after POST |
| 02:54.45 | abrotman | kishy: how long did oyu wait? |
| 02:54.51 | kishy | about 20 minutes... |
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| 02:55.26 | kishy | it's a funky little setup, fairly finicky |
| 02:55.33 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 02:55.44 | kishy | i could stop messing with the stupid usb/ide bridge if the onboard ide had support out of the box in debian |
| 02:55.46 | abrotman | kishy: is that grub2 in lenny or squeeze ? |
| 02:55.52 | kishy | grub2 in squeeze |
| 02:56.02 | kishy | on the minimal install CD |
| 02:56.04 | abrotman | judd: versions lilo |
| 02:56.04 | judd | Package lilo on i386 -- lenny: 1:22.8-7; squeeze: 1:22.8-10; sid: 1:23.2-1; wheezy: 1:23.2-1 |
| 02:56.13 | abrotman | as much as i don't want to know .. tried lilo ? |
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| 02:56.33 | kishy | i have not...it's not a box i like experimenting with new things on, lol |
| 02:57.16 | abrotman | lilo is old :) |
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| 02:57.50 | kishy | abrotman: ah, well then...no excuse other than lazy? lol |
| 02:58.00 | kishy | i'll get another hdd ready at some point and give it a spin |
| 02:58.02 | abrotman | perhaps |
| 02:58.08 | kishy | erm, no pun intended...but that one works well |
| 02:59.43 | abrotman | that one ? |
| 02:59.48 | abrotman | that excuse? |
| 03:00.07 | kishy | pun, spinning, hard drive |
| 03:00.43 | abrotman | oh, okay |
| 03:01.35 | phix | lilo is lol |
| 03:03.25 | kishy | abrotman: http://kishy.dyndns.org/wyserve_c827.jpg |
| 03:03.29 | kishy | if you're interested :) |
| 03:03.50 | Corey | kishy: Slow server is slow. |
| 03:03.52 | abrotman | is this a wyse terminal ? |
| 03:04.01 | kishy | Corey: slow intertoobs are slow |
| 03:04.05 | kishy | yeah, winterm s30 |
| 03:04.17 | kishy | holy blinkenlights - all the lurkers are loading my pic! |
| 03:04.18 | kishy | lol |
| 03:04.28 | abrotman | kishy: thta's creepy :) |
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| 03:04.32 | abrotman | waves, sleepy time |
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| 03:04.37 | Corey | kishy: Well 1K users here. |
| 03:04.49 | kishy | Corey: yes, in retrospect, that was not a bright move. |
| 03:04.50 | Corey | My server's switching over shortly to unmetered 100mbit. |
| 03:04.57 | abrotman | kishy: good luck |
| 03:05.03 | abrotman | kishy: hint, next time use picpaste :) |
| 03:05.16 | Corey | I think kishy's server is melting. |
| 03:05.24 | kishy | Corey: nah, phone wires might be |
| 03:05.49 | kishy | server is not fast, but it's still quicker than my 0.5/0.5 |
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| 03:06.27 | kishy | (part of the reason i host off such a weak box...anything more would be wasted) |
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| 03:07.24 | nawk | does anyone know which package is lsinitrd is part of? |
| 03:07.41 | patterson | http://www.itsiticecream.com/ |
| 03:07.57 | patterson | sorry |
| 03:08.11 | Corey | Yeah, my servers got incrementally better until the current generation which is effectively "Could run most/all of freenode with capacity to spare" |
| 03:08.23 | patterson | the lsintrd was a clue that I pasted in the wrong window |
| 03:08.48 | cafuego | nawk: apt-file can tell you. |
| 03:09.18 | cafuego | nawk: aptitude istall apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search lsinitrd. You can apso use packages.debian.org to search via a web page. |
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| 03:12.59 | nawk | cafuego, I tried apt-file search lsinitrd before coming here |
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| 03:13.12 | cafuego | nawk: and it didn't find anything? |
| 03:13.41 | CableNinja | hmmm |
| 03:13.54 | CableNinja | I think my problem is deeper than I thought.... |
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| 03:15.20 | cafuego | nawk: Appears to not exist for Debian. |
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| 03:15.52 | smugglerinc | My postfix server has an alias that processes the email then sends the processed form back. How would I grant permission to the alias so that it may send out an email? |
| 03:16.25 | nawk | cafuego I need to unpack and dig into the scripts inside initrd/initramfs |
| 03:17.12 | nawk | I am having some issues with booting up my system, particularly right after loading '/scripts/local-bottom' and '/scripts/init-bottom' |
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| 03:17.23 | nawk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWT_pJdiCeE |
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| 03:20.13 | CableNinja | dammit... wtf... why would my system still throw an error about ata devices if theres no drives plugged in?? :| |
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| 03:26.06 | CableNinja | found the issue.. now argh |
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| 03:40.21 | JordiGH | Can someone help me test mercurial-git on unstable? I can't get it to work, and I wonder if I need to submit a bug report. |
| 03:40.54 | JordiGH | I'm mostly on squeeze but I updated Python to unstable by mistake, so I don't know if my setup is screwed up or if mercurial-git is. |
| 03:41.28 | Arrowmaster | if you are mixing stable and unstable then your system is fucked |
| 03:41.56 | Arrowmaster | time to restore from backups, reinstall, or upgrade completely to unstable |
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| 03:42.32 | JordiGH | Let's not be hasty. |
| 03:42.42 | JordiGH | The only fuckery witnessed so far is that mercurial-git doesn't work. |
| 03:42.51 | JordiGH | No need to go scorched earth for that. |
| 03:44.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | JordiGH: perhaps try bu8ilding a completely sid chroot and try again in that |
| 03:44.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | that would eliminate the mixed environment as a cause |
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| 03:44.27 | JordiGH | Can one of you just tell me if the thing works before you make me reinstall Debian for testing a single package? |
| 03:44.41 | JordiGH | In a chroot or otherwise. |
| 03:44.58 | Arrowmaster | you already said you upgraded other packages making it a mixed stable/unstable system |
| 03:45.01 | Arrowmaster | you need to fix that |
| 03:45.19 | JordiGH | Sigh... |
| 03:45.22 | JordiGH | Nothing is broken... |
| 03:45.24 | stew | JordiGH: tell me how to test |
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| 03:45.25 | JordiGH | Except this one package... |
| 03:45.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | no is the short answer, i don't know mercurial well enough to test it for someone |
| 03:46.47 | Arrowmaster | it will be broken soon though unless you plan to keep the package versions you have and never upgrade them as new ones for those make it into unstable |
| 03:47.18 | Arrowmaster | you have a frankendebian now |
| 03:47.23 | JordiGH | stew: Okay, install mercurial-git, add "[ui] user = stew \n [extensions] hgext.git=" to your ~/.hgrc, create a git repo, do "hg clone git-repo hg-repo", make some trivial commit in hg-repo, and then from hg-repo do "hg push ../git-repo". |
| 03:47.25 | stew | JordiGH has been around here long enough to understand this and know what he is doing |
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| 03:48.33 | JordiGH | That's obviously an actual newline, not \n |
| 03:48.38 | Arrowmaster | alright then, was just pointing out that the python from unstable is going to break the system eventually |
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| 03:50.35 | stew | JordiGH: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'bookmark' |
| 03:50.58 | JordiGH | Uh, when did that happen, during the cloning? |
| 03:51.04 | stew | JordiGH: no, during commit |
| 03:51.06 | Onryo | will Wheezy work with the Sandy Bridge. I am thinking about the GPU |
| 03:51.07 | stew | err, push |
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| 03:51.25 | JordiGH | stew: Wait, I think I missed a step. |
| 03:51.30 | stew | JordiGH: besides s/user/username in .hgrc :) everything is fine up to the push |
| 03:51.55 | JordiGH | stew: Also add hgext.bookmarks = to your extensions in ~/.hgrc |
| 03:52.44 | stew | same error |
| 03:52.57 | JordiGH | scratches head. |
| 03:53.44 | JordiGH | What does .hgrc look like now? |
| 03:54.24 | JordiGH | Perhaps reclone the hg repo from the git repo? |
| 03:54.29 | stew | JordiGH: it works after running "hg bookmark master" |
| 03:54.36 | stew | JordiGH: (from here: https://github.com/schacon/hg-git/issues/178) |
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| 03:55.15 | JordiGH | So it works fine? git got the hg commit? |
| 03:55.26 | JordiGH | Shit. Then it's broken in my end. |
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| 03:55.30 | JordiGH | grrr... |
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| 03:56.03 | stew | JordiGH: yes, git got the commit |
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| 03:57.18 | JordiGH | stew: Many thanks. |
| 03:57.25 | JordiGH | now reconsiders scorched Earth. |
| 03:57.29 | stew | JordiGH: :) |
| 03:57.51 | stew | JordiGH: what error do you get? |
| 03:58.46 | JordiGH | Nothing, no error, hg-git says it does it but doesn't do it. |
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| 03:59.14 | JordiGH | It works if I downgrade hg back to squeeze's and leave every other package in unstable, including Python. |
| 03:59.30 | stew | JordiGH: how do you determine it doesn't do it? |
| 03:59.42 | JordiGH | "git log" doesn't show the commit. |
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| 04:00.15 | linux-fox | laughs... |
| 04:00.27 | stew | yeah, i see a commit with git log, and I see the file I added with "git ls-tree HEAD" |
| 04:01.11 | stew | JordiGH: are you running git log locally int the repository you pushed to? |
| 04:01.17 | JordiGH | Yes. |
| 04:01.41 | stew | that eliminates the need for whatever black magic 'git update-server-info' does |
| 04:01.53 | JordiGH | Sigh, I really don't want to run testing, though. I think I'd better find a way to downgrade Python. |
| 04:02.14 | JordiGH | I'm not looking forward to multi-gigabyte weekly updates. |
| 04:02.19 | JordiGH | is enjoying squeeze. |
| 04:02.51 | JordiGH | And hg is in backports... |
| 04:02.51 | stew | JordiGH: do you want to strace the push and make sure its really looking at the directory you think it is? |
| 04:04.00 | stew | just ditch hg altogether and use git |
| 04:04.03 | stew | :) |
| 04:05.11 | stew | JordiGH: or are you pushing to a different branch on git? (note that I know little about either hg or hg-git) |
| 04:05.40 | JordiGH | stew: I've done all my work in hg, and I will try again to like git, but right now I'm in a bit of a rush. |
| 04:05.50 | JordiGH | straces |
| 04:06.59 | stew | noting again that I know little about hg, does "hg bookmarks" seem to point at the right branch in your git repo? |
| 04:08.09 | LordVorp | is this a good place to talk about pam? on my deb systems? |
| 04:08.29 | LordVorp | specifically, pam + kerberos + fallback to local /etc/passwd auth if the network is offline |
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| 04:09.39 | JordiGH | stew: Yes, your minimal example doesn't work for me. |
| 04:10.08 | JordiGH | stew: Let me first try to fix the mess I got into and see how far I get with downgrading. |
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| 04:15.26 | JordiGH | Hm, this horrible pipeline seems to have worked: |
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| 04:40.38 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: Or not. |
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| 04:41.36 | gsp2009 | anyone have any success on finding a deb of dropbox for squeeze? the package from the site is for ubuntu and is missing deps |
| 04:42.16 | karlpinc | !tell gsp2009 about dropbox |
| 04:42.40 | gsp2009 | thanks. |
| 04:42.42 | karlpinc | gsp2009: Maybe you can use the Nautilus plug-in. Dunno. |
| 04:42.50 | JordiGH | hahaha, "it's a mess of copyright violations". |
| 04:43.25 | gsp2009 | I will compile from source... |
| 04:43.37 | stew | it's closed source |
| 04:44.01 | JordiGH | #610257 is quite an amusing bug. |
| 04:44.11 | stew | and they illegally redistribute stuff without source where they are legally required to |
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| 04:44.18 | Arrowmaster | http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/06/official-debian-ubuntu-packages-for-nautilus-dropbox/ |
| 04:44.19 | dufrane | ok, so, being an rhel / fedora guy should i just abandon my gnome3 interests if this is the distro i like? i don't think i can go back to yum ever again now that i've used aptitude / apt-get |
| 04:44.59 | stew | and "official" in raphaelhertzog's blog post is misleading. there is nothing official about his packages |
| 04:45.04 | gsp2009 | Arrowmaster, sweet. Thanks. |
| 04:45.05 | Arrowmaster | dufrane: gnome3 should be in the next debian release |
| 04:45.13 | karlpinc | dufrane: It'll arrive eventually. If you're anxious you could use testing where it will arrive sooner. |
| 04:45.15 | JordiGH | hahahaha, dude went to Ubuntu because he doesn't give a crap about copyright. |
| 04:45.16 | Arrowmaster | or atleast i think thats the plan |
| 04:45.31 | JordiGH | Russia to copyright: We will bury you! |
| 04:45.57 | stew | JordiGH: that was annoying. i wasted a morning auditing everything he had uploaded to debian as a result |
| 04:46.39 | dufrane | Arrowmaster karlpinc I've got it running, I'm just worried about support for rolling it out across our linux desktops in a corporate environment |
| 04:47.00 | Arrowmaster | how did you get it running? its not in debian yet |
| 04:47.06 | stew | well, he didn't have upload rights, but people were sponsoring several packages for him |
| 04:47.52 | JordiGH | stew: Did you find more lols? |
| 04:47.54 | karlpinc | dufrane: Running on what? I'd wait until it gets into debian and has full security/everything support. But that's me. |
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| 04:48.55 | dufrane | I used some repositories that *might* be less than wise to use. |
| 04:49.37 | karlpinc | dufrane: We might help, but probably don't support those repos. And they might not be well supported. Your call. |
| 04:49.54 | karlpinc | !tell dufrane about sns |
| 04:50.07 | dufrane | No that's the thing, I only want to roll something out that is supported. |
| 04:50.42 | karlpinc | dufrane: (But something like a new gnome won't go into backports. It's too much.) |
| 04:53.32 | dufrane | karlpinc, don't need backports in my case for the office desktops. is there a roadmap that says anything about desktop environments? i have people that switched from win7 to *nix solely based on their acceptance of gnome3 so you see my problem. |
| 04:54.53 | dufrane | i just got pwned by dpkg |
| 04:55.05 | sinedeviance | hmm... xorg.conf seems to be missing |
| 04:55.06 | sinedeviance | what gives? |
| 04:55.19 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: No longer needed in most cases. |
| 04:55.25 | stew | sinedeviance: it shouldn't be needed in most cases. hardware should be detected at runtime |
| 04:55.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell sinedeviance about xorg.conf |
| 04:55.49 | dufrane | reading more. |
| 04:55.49 | sinedeviance | karlpinc: i cant get compiz working, it says i'm running in software rendering. i'm in a virtualbox VM and have the additions modules installed. |
| 04:56.30 | sinedeviance | i know compiz SHOULD work, because i have the video module installed and i have 3D acceleration checked in the VM settings |
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| 04:56.57 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: I'm not a compiz guy. (When starting a new thread the nettiqute here is to ask the channel so we all help/learn.) |
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| 04:57.51 | sinedeviance | new thread? |
| 04:57.59 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: My guess would be you need the right video driver installed. (Or possibly non-free firmware, but that sounds like a reach.) "aptitude search video" returns more than you want and lists all the drivers. |
| 04:58.25 | sinedeviance | karlpinc: but it's a virtual machine. i already have the virtualbox additions video driver installed |
| 04:58.26 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: So maybe thread is not the right word. Topic. Problem. |
| 04:58.54 | JordiGH | Sigh... |
| 04:59.22 | JordiGH | I still have problems even though I managed to get everything into squeeze with the backported hg. |
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| 04:59.32 | JordiGH | C'mon, hg, I need you push to git... |
| 04:59.45 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: Does that do more than expose souped-up video hardware to the vm? (I'm not a VM guy either.) You still might need a driver to use that virtual hardware. |
| 05:00.07 | sinedeviance | it's a driver in itself |
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| 05:00.23 | sinedeviance | it does expose my ATI card to the VM, but it's seen by linux as a video driver. i use it in other distros with no issues |
| 05:00.37 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: What's the pciid reported by "lspci -nn" of the virtual video card? (It looks like [xxxx:yyyy].) |
| 05:00.38 | sinedeviance | or i should say, seen by the guest linux OS as a video driver |
| 05:01.01 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: Did you reboot since you installed that stuff? |
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| 05:01.29 | sinedeviance | karlpinc: the pciid is: 80ee:beef |
| 05:01.32 | sinedeviance | i did reboot, as well |
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| 05:01.54 | karlpinc | judd pciid 80ee:beef |
| 05:01.55 | judd | [80ee:beef] is 'VirtualBox Graphics Adapter' from 'InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=80ee:beef |
| 05:02.07 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: No clue. |
| 05:02.44 | sinedeviance | the complete vendor ID is: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter |
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| 05:03.11 | sinedeviance | the kernel module is not provided by the repos |
| 05:03.22 | sinedeviance | it's provided by the 'VBoxGuestAdditions' script |
| 05:04.08 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: Right. Dunno. You could try again later. (Often there's the most experienced here during U.S. business hours. But not always. YMMV.) |
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| 05:04.33 | sinedeviance | heh, okay :D |
| 05:04.53 | karlpinc | !tell sinedeviance about virtualbox |
| 05:04.57 | sinedeviance | well lemme ask you this... if i installed debian on my actual system and installed the official ATI driver, do you think i would have more luck? |
| 05:05.32 | sinedeviance | it's not important that compiz doesn't work in the VM, but it is important that it works on a native install |
| 05:06.04 | JordiGH | What's the official ATI driver? |
| 05:06.07 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: Probably, but I'm not into bling and live with the FOSS drivers. (They still work after the proprietary vendor drops support.) |
| 05:06.20 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: The FOSS drivers are sometimes better. Depends. |
| 05:06.36 | JordiGH | sinedeviance: Oh, right, btw, welcome to Debian: http://jordi.platinum.linux.pl/piccies/freedom.jpg |
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| 05:06.52 | JordiGH | That's how I feel each time I install free drivers ^ |
| 05:06.54 | sinedeviance | <JordiGH> What's the official ATI driver? <-- the official ati driver packages from ati's website |
| 05:07.15 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: The best way to install that stuff is from the non-free repos. |
| 05:07.18 | JordiGH | I thought both the free and non-free ATI drivers were in their website? |
| 05:07.21 | sinedeviance | well, i should tell all of you now that i have no intention on only using free software :D |
| 05:07.41 | JordiGH | sinedeviance: baby rms's tears will burn in your soul. |
| 05:07.44 | sinedeviance | JordiGH: i believe so, but in almost all cases, for the card i have (HD5850) the proprietary drivers work much better |
| 05:08.04 | karlpinc | sinedeviance: That's fine. But Debian repackages and distributes non-free stuff when allowed. And supports that packaging if not the driver code. |
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| 05:08.15 | sinedeviance | yeah |
| 05:08.23 | sinedeviance | the non-free driver is the 'fglrx' |
| 05:08.24 | JordiGH | And we like the vrms package. |
| 05:08.38 | sinedeviance | it's the same as the proprietary driver on ati's site |
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| 05:52.42 | sunabozu | apparently i can't talk if my username is root, so anyway |
| 05:52.54 | sunabozu | is ther a specific place to discuss embedded debian? |
| 05:53.46 | SpeedyG | login on to IRC as root isnt smart anyways |
| 05:54.06 | sunabozu | it's a windows computer, user was set to root as a joke |
| 05:54.10 | SpeedyG | but I guess you might give it a try here... not sure if there's a separate channel for embedded debian |
| 05:54.14 | stew | sunabozu: #emdebian on irc.debian.org |
| 05:54.14 | republican_devil | debian stinks |
| 05:54.18 | republican_devil | use archlinux or netbsd |
| 05:54.21 | SpeedyG | ah, there it is :) |
| 05:54.31 | stew | republican_devil: lets please keep it on topic... |
| 05:54.39 | sunabozu | republican_devil: can i fit arch into 512mb and run it on a 333mhz processor? |
| 05:54.54 | sunabozu | stew: thanks |
| 05:54.56 | stew | sunabozu: ask about arch in #archlinux. he's just here to troll |
| 05:55.05 | sunabozu | stew: already in that channe l :) |
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| 05:56.00 | SpeedyG | wonders what drives people to be trolls on irc channels... |
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| 06:27.18 | cahoot | SpeedyG, http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html |
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| 06:27.46 | blahdeblah | Hi. Is there a way to delete (not override) global options for just one subnet in dhcpd.conf? |
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| 06:31.09 | blahdeblah | Alternatively, does anyone know a better channel to check for ISC dhcpd help? :-) |
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| 06:34.27 | ethanol | can unetbootin be used to put any bootable iso on a usb? or just linux based ones? |
| 06:35.25 | stew | looking at the package description, i'd say "no" and "no" |
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| 06:35.57 | ethanol | bummer :< |
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| 06:42.53 | asarch | How do you start vim in input mode? |
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| 06:44.14 | SpeedyG | cahoot: still I don't understand why those trolls wont just get a life ;) |
| 06:44.42 | ompaul | asarch: you should have asked the googles it had the answer vim -c 'startinsert' |
| 06:45.24 | asarch | Thank you ompaul |
| 06:45.29 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
| 06:45.31 | ompaul | SpeedyG: because for them life is not important, and so they waste their time and other peoples time in a game where there are no winners only sad people |
| 06:45.46 | ompaul | asarch: you are welcome |
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| 06:46.24 | asarch | wonders why there is no option for that... |
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| 06:48.14 | nkuttler | asarch: -x would be 100% more keystrokes than simply typing i |
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| 06:48.46 | asarch | vim -i? |
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| 06:49.03 | asarch | But that option is for the resource file |
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| 06:49.42 | ompaul | wrap it in a script called vx and be done with it ;-) |
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| 06:50.58 | nkuttler | or help alias |
| 06:51.31 | ompaul | nkuttler: I have not used an alias in years, you just woke up some fond memories |
| 06:52.47 | ompaul | ll for ls -al was one (showing my bsd ness) |
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| 06:54.29 | ompaul | nkuttler: however there is a reason for not having alias settings if you stick it in a script - I use a multitude of user names and root - nice to fire once and make available on all boxes with a quick rsync |
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| 06:54.43 | ompaul | they are not all running the same versions of anything |
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| 06:56.43 | asarch | See you later :-) |
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| 07:04.34 | ethanol | http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/ is this still the only way to create a ms compatible boot record on a usb drive from linux? |
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| 07:07.58 | stew | ethanol: what do you mean by "ms compatible'? |
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| 08:12.00 | elfranne | anyone have some experience to use WMI calls from a Linux box to a Win 7 machine ? I get connection refused, on the Win7 the WMI is active and i can make calls on local |
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| 08:44.02 | Muisje | Hello, i need to resize my partition (shrink) it from 15 GB to 5 GB, and the only possibility i have is to use the ubuntu cd and boot from there. However in ubuntu i cannot find /dev/mapper/deb01-root, any ideas? |
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| 08:47.23 | JPT | Muisje: i had some similar issues with an older ubuntu disc, too. Still, i was able to mount the mapper device things on the console... |
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| 08:49.57 | Muisje | jpt, what i can do is resize it using lvm and then lvresize, but the system will crash on boot |
| 08:50.25 | Muisje | i used lvm and then lvextend -L -10G /dev/deb01/root |
| 08:50.28 | JPT | mhh..that doesn't sound that good |
| 08:50.46 | Muisje | if i extend it back to the old size it boots again |
| 08:50.54 | Muisje | its ext3 |
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| 08:57.05 | fredl | hi folks. Trying to run /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 2.6.39-1-amd64 manually.... |
| 08:57.32 | fredl | gives error nvidia (260.19.44)...failed. How can I troubleshoot that in more detail? |
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| 09:01.18 | jelly | fredl: is linux-headers-2.6.39-1-amd64 installed? |
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| 09:02.11 | fredl | yup |
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| 09:02.54 | fredl | jelly - hmm http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620327 |
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| 09:06.54 | jelly | fredl: you could try 270.* instead |
| 09:07.11 | jelly | ,versions nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 09:07.12 | judd | Package nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; sid/non-free: 270.41.19-1; wheezy/non-free: 270.41.19-1; experimental/non-free: 275.09-1 |
| 09:07.53 | fredl | hmm how do I do that? |
| 09:09.01 | fredl | actually... should I try to reboot into the new kernel before trying dkms? |
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| 09:09.51 | fredl | I'm not sure how the whole dkms stuff actually works |
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| 09:16.55 | jelly | uh... just install it and see if it builds (better) |
| 09:17.16 | jelly | when it builds, it'll make sense to reboot and activate changes |
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| 09:20.29 | Corin | I go to preferences > privacy and it's set to save my history. |
| 09:20.33 | Corin | It doesn't though. |
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| 10:02.37 | elfranne | anyone have some experience to use WMI calls from a Linux box to a Win 7 machine ? I get connection refused, on the Win7 the WMI is active and i can make calls on local (http://pastebin.ca/2076647) |
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| 10:48.04 | SPF | netstat -nalep does not show any PID on host1, but on host2 it shows a lot of PIDs |
| 10:48.20 | petemc | you need to be root to use p |
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| 10:48.47 | SPF | petemc: I am root on both hosts |
| 10:49.21 | SPF | and netstat is on both the same version |
| 10:50.01 | petemc | both debian? |
| 10:50.40 | SPF | well, actually host1 is debian and host2 is suse enterprise. But would that make a difference? |
| 10:50.51 | petemc | evidently |
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| 10:52.23 | petemc | it shows PID/Program name in the last column for me |
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| 10:54.24 | p3rror | hello |
| 10:54.36 | p3rror | i've no sound in flash video |
| 10:54.41 | p3rror | using firefox |
| 10:54.46 | p3rror | i check /dev |
| 10:54.54 | p3rror | i can not find /dev/dsp |
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| 11:22.30 | tdn | I have an image of a (mac) disk that uses GPT. How do I mount one of the partions on this? I have installed gdisk and can list the partitions on the image. I would actually like to extract an image of one of the partitions. How to do that? |
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| 11:52.01 | thelastninja | tdn: may this help ? : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1484036.html |
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| 11:54.04 | miha | is there a debian internationalization channel? i still wonder about installing more languages and google is of no help |
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| 11:54.46 | tdn | thelastninja, reading... |
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| 11:55.18 | Zvpun | Hi, I have /usr/share/man/man1/gcc-4.4.1.gz yet "man gcc" says No manual entry for gcc, what is wrong? |
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| 11:56.28 | tdn | thelastninja, that looks very complicated. |
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| 11:57.49 | tdn | Is it not possible to just create a loop back device or something like that from the disk image file? |
| 11:58.23 | petemc | tdn: what does kpartx think of the image? |
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| 11:59.54 | tdn | It outputs two lines. Does this mean these devices has been created? One for each partition? |
| 12:00.03 | vtts | tdn, it is possible, but you need to use a correct offset to skip the partition table |
| 12:00.09 | petemc | no you dont |
| 12:00.21 | vtts | that is with the loop device |
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| 12:03.02 | tdn | petemc, this is what is says: http://paste.adora.dk/P2090.txt |
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| 12:05.34 | petemc | tdn: what command did you run? |
| 12:05.47 | tdn | sudo kpartx -vgl image |
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| 12:05.48 | petemc | kpart -l to list, then kpartx -a to make available to mount |
| 12:06.54 | tdn | petemc, not -g for GPT mode? Since it is a gpt disk image. |
| 12:07.14 | petemc | ive not used it with gpt myself |
| 12:07.19 | tdn | petemc, ok. |
| 12:07.44 | tdn | petemc, I just tried with -a. It gives these two lines: http://paste.adora.dk/P2091.txt |
| 12:07.51 | jelly | tdn: I usually create a loopback with the whole image, and then kpartx on that. |
| 12:08.04 | tdn | petemc, but there are two partitions, but it is the same device loop6 it mentions two times? |
| 12:08.10 | jelly | tdn: so it... works? |
| 12:08.13 | tdn | jelly, how to do that? |
| 12:08.16 | tdn | jelly, not sure? |
| 12:08.27 | jelly | tdn: do you have /dev/loop0p1 and p2 now? |
| 12:08.37 | jelly | sorry, /dev/loop6p1 |
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| 12:08.43 | tdn | jelly, no. Only loop6. |
| 12:09.02 | tdn | http://paste.adora.dk/P2092.txt <- ll /dev/loop* |
| 12:09.15 | jelly | tdn: now do the -a instead of the dry run -l option |
| 12:09.49 | tdn | jelly, I just did? http://paste.adora.dk/P2091.txt is output from kpartx -vga image |
| 12:10.07 | tdn | -va even. |
| 12:10.08 | tdn | Not -g |
| 12:10.23 | Zvpun | Hi, I have /usr/share/man/man1/gcc-4.4.1.gz yet "man gcc" says No manual entry for gcc. Where did the man page for gcc go? |
| 12:10.50 | vtts | Zvpun, how about "man gcc-4.4.1" ? |
| 12:11.56 | sephii | I have installed a package and I need to check some dbconfig information. Does anybody knows where this file is stored ? (the one that contains database credentials) |
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| 12:13.55 | tdn | jelly, should the loop6p1 device exist now? It does not :/ |
| 12:14.03 | Zvpun | vtts: No manual entry for gcc-4.4.1 Yet there is a /usr/share/man/man1/gcc-4.4.1.gz |
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| 12:15.16 | sephii | Nevermind, found it in /etc/dbconfig-common |
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| 12:20.11 | tdn | petemc, jelly, here is complete log of what I do with kpartx: http://paste.adora.dk/P2093.txt It does not create the devices for each partition. What to do? |
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| 12:21.17 | petemc | tdn: anything in /dev/mapper/ ? |
| 12:21.25 | tdn | petemc, oh, yes! |
| 12:21.33 | petemc | thats what you mount |
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| 12:23.36 | tdn | petemc, thanks! |
| 12:23.54 | petemc | np |
| 12:24.19 | tdn | Hmm... What does this error mean: Insecure dependency in bind while running with -T switch ---- it comes when I start autopsy. |
| 12:25.02 | vtts | Zvpun, sorry, try "gcc-4.4" |
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| 12:28.07 | miha | is there a debian internationalization channel? i still wonder about installing more languages and google is of no help |
| 12:29.38 | Zvpun | vtts: thank you, that works, why does the 1 not belong to the name? |
| 12:30.01 | Zvpun | vtts: do you happen to know why gcc doesnt forward me to gcc-4.4 and what I have to do to get such a forward |
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| 12:31.21 | bs0d | Good day everybody. |
| 12:31.24 | vtts | Zvpun, "1" is a section number |
| 12:31.26 | Tau | hello. i want to create a user account to run a bot then sandbox it with a bot python. |
| 12:31.43 | Tau | how can i set the memory limit for the account to avoid ppl making forkbomb. |
| 12:31.48 | bs0d | Is scponly shell from debian packages is kind of invalid or contains some bugs? |
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| 12:32.40 | tdn | Tau, ulimit |
| 12:32.48 | tdn | Tau, also consider setting af processes limit. |
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| 12:33.07 | tdn | Tau, e.g. restrict users to 200 procs or something like that. |
| 12:33.44 | Tau | tdn, oh nice. to set process limits how could i do? |
| 12:34.24 | bs0d | When I try to run scponly shell as # /usr/bin/scponly I get an error: /usr/bin/scponly: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected, and when assigned as a shell for users who use sshd I get such error: WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0 |
| 12:34.38 | bs0d | Is there something wrong with the shell or I am doing something wrong? |
| 12:34.54 | tdn | Tau, ulimit -u |
| 12:35.00 | Tau | tdn, oh, thanks. i figured it out. |
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| 12:35.45 | petemc | bs0d: did you follow the docs to set it up correctly or are you just blithely running the command>? |
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| 12:36.20 | FusionX | Guys, after Debian stopped the installation due to a corrupt .deb file. I aborted the installation. It showed me a warning that my system might become unusable but I ignored it. Now my BIOS can't boot into windows and asks me to insert a disk to repair Windows. Although I can boot to Primary partition with Plop boot manager installed in a CD. |
| 12:36.22 | bs0d | petemc: I have installed it from apt-get and assigned it as a shell for users who are supposed to login to sshd |
| 12:36.34 | FusionX | I tried repairing windows and fixing mbr but it didn't help |
| 12:36.49 | petemc | bs0d: i would suggest reading the documentation provided with it or the wikipage |
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| 12:42.14 | boudiccas | FusionX; we need more information from you, like - what version of debian were you trying to install? and what version of windows is now screwed up? |
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| 12:47.33 | eekboom | Sun's JDK 1.6.0_26 was released ysterday containing security fixes. How long does it usually take until there's an updated debian package available? |
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| 12:48.59 | stew | eekboom: the security team doesn't consistently support non-free software, so perhaps never |
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| 12:51.18 | stew | and yeah, http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/sun-java6 shows a lot of known problems going back to 2006 |
| 12:51.24 | themill | eekboom: sun java packages normally get updated when a point release is made if the security fixes are important and there aren't too many other big changes in the changelog. There's likely to be a point release in a few weeks' time. |
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| 12:52.01 | eekboom | Too bad. IMHO there should either be no packages at all (I could understand it for proprietary software) or there should be timely security updates. |
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| 12:52.31 | themill | eekboom: non-free doesn't get security support; that's written in many places. |
| 12:52.48 | jordanm | depends on the severity of the security bug |
| 12:53.08 | eekboom | Ok, missed that. "A few weeks" is too long for me anyway. I'll just uninstall the package and maintain JDKs myself manually. |
| 12:53.13 | eekboom | Thanks for the answers. |
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| 12:53.46 | themill | eekboom: perhaps openjdk would better suit your needs? |
| 12:55.12 | miha | hates what they did to java on linux.. i have to test applets in virtualbox with winxp |
| 12:55.28 | stew | miha: really? why do you have to use winxp? |
| 12:55.36 | themill | miha: write once, test everywhere. |
| 12:55.51 | webad13 | I need someone who has experience with directvnc (framebuffer vnc)... It starts well but I can only see upper left corner of the screen of the remote machine |
| 12:56.01 | miha | stew: firefox and java on 64 bit ubuntu is a mess |
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| 12:56.11 | stew | besides closed source binary drivers for hardware, all my java stuff works fine in debian |
| 12:56.14 | miha | random crashees |
| 12:56.19 | stew | ah, but I'm not doing browser stuff anymore, thank goodness |
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| 12:56.41 | miha | stew: rest is ok, but java applets are nightmare |
| 12:56.42 | stew | miha: appletviewer doesn't work either? |
| 12:56.47 | miha | which is a shame, cause they have their use |
| 12:56.54 | eekboom | themill: Unfortunately I need Sun's version: My server does continuous integration for apps that we will eventually deploy to our customers production servers which are running Sun's JDK. I think the test environment should mirror the prod environment as closely as possible. |
| 12:57.03 | miha | i guess it does, but i care mostly about java uploader |
| 12:58.06 | jordanm | eekboom: they are not using something like JBOSS, which packages its own java? |
| 12:58.27 | stew | uh, are you sure jboss packages its own java? |
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| 12:58.52 | stew | (and if it does, why do I get havoc when I try to run jboss after update-java-alternatives? :)) |
| 12:59.17 | jordanm | I could be mistaken, but last time I installed it, I do not recall installing java |
| 12:59.25 | eekboom | I also think JBoss runs on standard java. Only WebLogic runs on BEA's Java version I think. |
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| 12:59.58 | jordanm | stew: shouldn't interfere, it was a self-contained dir structure that set JAVA env variables |
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| 13:00.15 | kjs | I need to find a debian lenny mirror so I can do an upgrade to lenny then to current |
| 13:00.18 | kjs | any ideas? |
| 13:00.42 | themill | kjs: are you currently running etch? |
| 13:00.49 | kjs | yeah |
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| 13:00.59 | themill | dpkg: tell kjs about lenny sources.list |
| 13:00.59 | jordanm | stew: looks like I was mistaken |
| 13:01.09 | jordanm | stew: http://docs.jboss.org/jbossas/docs/Installation_Guide/beta500/html-single/index.html#Pre_Requisites-Configuring_Your_Java_Environment |
| 13:01.32 | kjs | themill: no mirrors have lenny any more... |
| 13:01.42 | kjs | i know about apt sources :) |
| 13:01.43 | stew | its because of this that I'm stuck on java 5 on all my machines |
| 13:01.45 | themill | kjs: umm... all mirrors should still have lenny |
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| 13:01.54 | stew | kjs: all official mirrors have lenny |
| 13:02.06 | kjs | I cant find any ? |
| 13:02.08 | kjs | odd |
| 13:02.09 | stew | kjs: at least until february |
| 13:02.20 | stew | kjs: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 13:02.45 | themill | (or what dpkg told you) |
| 13:03.01 | kjs | ah no sorry, i am wrong I need etch mirrors. |
| 13:03.07 | kjs | this box is sarge. |
| 13:03.10 | stew | kjs: /msg dpkg etch sources.list |
| 13:03.25 | stew | (which will work for sarge too, which you should use first to make sure you are fully up to date with sarge) |
| 13:03.47 | stew | kjs: and then /msg dpkg sarge->etch ; /msg dpkg etch->lenny ; /msg dpkg lenny-squeeze |
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| 13:04.14 | themill | kjs: make sure you follow the release notes carefully for each upgrade; they are different each time depending on what is required. |
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| 13:05.21 | bs0d | petemc: still have troubles with scponly |
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| 13:10.07 | Bop | anyone used CDC_ETHER that can give me some hints ? |
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| 13:14.39 | bs0d | Still I think that debian scponly package is buggy |
| 13:14.41 | Tau | hey, tdn i think i got that. but how are the values which i should set to have a minium performance for an account ? |
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| 13:14.55 | thelastninja | I have lost metacity in my X desktop and now "alt + f2" does not work so I can not run "metacity", My windows have not caption to move, I can not switch my windows, I can not type anything ! ; I tried to run metacity --display:0 --replace from another tty but I got error : unable to open X display :0 |
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| 13:15.34 | thelastninja | How can I run metacity into another tty and force him to be run in my X session ? |
| 13:15.58 | bs0d | can anybody help me fix this issue? After login, immediate disconnect |
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| 13:16.10 | krisfremen | thelastninja: export DISPLAY=":0.0"; metacity |
| 13:16.22 | krisfremen | bs0d: do elaborate |
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| 13:17.43 | thelastninja | krisfremen: the same result, this time "unable to open X display 0:0" |
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| 13:18.50 | krisfremen | is X running on a different display then? |
| 13:18.57 | bs0d | krisfremen: I believe this is a common mistake and the solutions does already exist |
| 13:19.27 | thelastninja | krisfremen: No, I it is certainly in display 0, because when I run X he says that display 0 is already active |
| 13:20.10 | miha | apt-cache search language-pack-gnome this works on my ubuntu but not on debian inside virtualbox |
| 13:20.13 | miha | any ideas why? |
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| 13:20.56 | themill | miha: that's an ubuntu-only package; it's not in debian. |
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| 13:21.57 | miha | themill, would you know the debian way? |
| 13:22.09 | miha | cause obviously i have it for my language :) |
| 13:23.26 | pkkm | Is it going to be a good backup if I recursively copy / using rsync, excluding /tmp, /proc, /sys, /dev and /var/{run,lock} ? |
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| 13:26.06 | themill | miha: I have no idea how the gnome translations are packaged in debian, sorry. Most language packs have a package name that ends with the language code, so "aptitude search ~n-de$" would turn up a useful number of German language packages for example. |
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| 13:27.35 | phantomcircuit | the installer appears to be stuck at 37% completed "configuring apt" |
| 13:28.20 | stew | miha: you could perhaps use apt-file to search for a file that is installed by that package in ubunut: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 13:28.56 | c0nsense | Hello! I'm root in a server, and i need create the time README inside of /home/robert directory for the user robert read it! and i set permissios "400" so, just can READ! but same 400 the user robert can REMOVE this file, how can i do for the user robert can't remove file and change permission? |
| 13:29.38 | bs0d | does anyone here know how to make scponly work? I connect via ssh and on every command, cd or ls I get error: WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0 How to fix this? |
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| 13:30.07 | jordanm | bs0d: should just be able to set it as the default shell for a user and is it |
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| 13:30.30 | stew | c0nsense: removing a file is an operation on a directory, so with normal permissions you'd have to take away write access to his home directory, which is probably a bad idea, so I'd recommend instead setting the file chattr +i (man chattr) |
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| 13:31.05 | stew | scponly isn't "just set the shell", you have to install a chroot for the user first, right? |
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| 13:31.21 | bs0d | jordanm: I set the shell with the command usermod -s /usr/bin/scponly sftp_user. It does not suit here? |
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| 13:31.36 | jordanm | stew: chattr on the file will prevent deletion |
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| 13:31.45 | stew | jordanm: that's why I recommended it! :) |
| 13:32.15 | jordanm | stew: I misunderstood.. I thought that he wanted the user to delete the file, but not change its perms or alter it |
| 13:34.01 | c0nsense | stew: how to see if an file are in imutable? |
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| 13:34.47 | bs0d | Is scponly the only choice or there are other shells which handle only scp commands? |
| 13:34.58 | bs0d | I can't get scponly working :( |
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| 13:36.19 | Strogg | 'lo 'lo |
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| 13:36.55 | babilen | c0nsense: Check "lsattr" |
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| 13:37.51 | Strogg | I'm trying to get dhclient to use my own DNS server, but it keeps using the server provided by the dhcp server. I've tried using both prepend and supersede in my dhclient.conf but it's still not using the IP I want. I'm running squeeze. Anyone have any ideas what I should look at? |
| 13:37.58 | c0nsense | babilen: thanks! |
| 13:38.05 | djura-san | o/ |
| 13:39.50 | krisfremen | Strogg: /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 13:40.21 | Wyzard | Strogg: The line I'm using in dhclient.conf is "prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;" |
| 13:40.31 | Wyzard | That works correctly on squeeze |
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| 13:40.38 | Strogg | Wyzard: yeah.. I've tried that. it just doesn't work for me. hrmm. |
| 13:40.57 | Strogg | dhclient uses /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf as its config, right? |
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| 13:41.07 | jelly | Strogg: are you editing the RIGHT file :-) |
| 13:41.07 | Wyzard | It puts 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf above the two nameservers provided by the ISP |
| 13:41.11 | Strogg | maybe it's just using a default config and not telling me |
| 13:41.19 | miha | i think i found the right way.. aptitude Tasks/Localization |
| 13:41.21 | Wyzard | No, it's /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 13:41.38 | Strogg | Hrmmmmmm. so where'd dhcp3/dhclient.conf come from? |
| 13:41.39 | jelly | isc-dhcp-client: /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
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| 13:41.53 | Wyzard | /etc/dhcp3 is a leftover from the previous release |
| 13:42.00 | Strogg | Ahhhhh. |
| 13:42.00 | jelly | dhcp3-client: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 13:42.02 | Wyzard | when the package was called "dhcp3-client" or something like that |
| 13:42.12 | Strogg | great. I have both installed |
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| 13:42.27 | Strogg | So.. I can remove dhcp3-* and keep isc-dhcp-* ? |
| 13:42.39 | jelly | Strogg: yeah, isc-* is the newer one |
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| 13:42.46 | jelly | if it worksforyou, keep that one |
| 13:42.47 | c0nsense | babilen: for disable bash_history for some user, how do it? |
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| 13:43.09 | Strogg | deletes some stuff, moves some other stuff and uninstalls some other other stuff |
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| 13:43.41 | jelly | Strogg: and by "uninstall" it's probably better to "purge" (after you've made sure you migrated all the config) |
| 13:43.54 | Wyzard | always purges |
| 13:44.03 | jelly | Wyzard: bulimic much |
| 13:44.08 | Wyzard | hehe |
| 13:44.24 | Strogg | I live by --purge. hehe |
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| 13:44.32 | bs0d | Good day again everybody. If someone knows the solution to WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0 error which occurs in Debian 6 when a user with assigned scponly shell tries to run ls or cd or some other command after authenticated via ssh, so please let me know how it can be fixed. I will appreciate any help |
| 13:44.32 | Wyzard | It's extremely rare that I remove a package without purging it |
| 13:44.38 | Strogg | I think it's just leftovers from my last upgrade.. this box has been around a while now |
| 13:44.48 | Wyzard | The ability to do so is nearly pointless as far as I'm concerned |
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| 13:46.25 | Strogg | nameserver 127.0.0.1 |
| 13:46.27 | Strogg | yay! :) |
| 13:46.41 | Strogg | Awesome. thanks guys. I was about ready to start stracing stuff. hehe |
| 13:46.44 | Wyzard | Strogg: You may also be interested in the resolvconf package |
| 13:47.09 | Wyzard | That does essentially the same thing, without needing to configure dhclient |
| 13:47.26 | cafaro | I'm running rtorrent, which places downloaded files in a directory. How can I automatically set the permissions of these files to rwx for everyone? |
| 13:47.27 | Strogg | dhclient needs a "Warning: you don't have a config, so I'm using a default one" message. hehe |
| 13:47.39 | Strogg | Wyzard: hrmm interesting. I'll check it out |
| 13:48.01 | Wyzard | The only reason I'm not using resolvconf presently is that it doesn't support the DNS resolver I'm using (unbound) |
| 13:48.09 | Wyzard | but it supports others, like bind and pdnsd |
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| 13:58.15 | ayambit | I got an error message [2247240.395243] EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_free_blocks_sb: bit already cleared for block 223859 [2247240.539157] Aborting journal on device sda1. [2247240.591273] Remounting filesystem read-only |
| 13:58.39 | ayambit | I ran fsck on this system and rebooted |
| 13:58.47 | ayambit | (It's root filesystem) |
| 13:59.07 | ayambit | And now the box is half-dead, some files are missing (libraries from /lib, etc) |
| 13:59.24 | ayambit | Any suggestions how to save the box without reinstalling sdebian? |
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| 14:08.27 | linux-fox | hi,all |
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| 14:13.50 | stew | n |
| 14:14.00 | linux-fox | waht |
| 14:14.03 | linux-fox | what |
| 14:14.05 | stew | EWINDOW |
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| 14:16.34 | cablop | is there something like restricted repos for debian? |
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| 14:17.26 | babilen | What would constitute a restricted repository? |
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| 14:19.40 | dkr | we need a factoid for, "please describe the thing you are asking for rather than use a name for the thing that is only used in some specific context that debian folks aren't familiar with." :) |
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| 14:20.53 | john_rambo | Problem : Keyboard responding slowly .......Cant type faster ...... |
| 14:21.45 | petemc | john_rambo: is the machine under any sort of load? |
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| 14:22.40 | john_rambo | petemc, No ...1 sec |
| 14:23.15 | lapsusbrutus | anyone knows how to get tsclient to work with ica (citrix) I just installed libmotif4 too |
| 14:23.44 | stew | cablop: certainly not officially. if there is something in particular you are looking for tell us what |
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| 14:24.23 | john_rambo | petemc, http://pastebin.com/uj6yt0ia |
| 14:24.54 | cablop | yes i'm interested in the drivers, just them, not willing to try open source drivers when i know the proprietary ones work well and i paid for the hardware so i have the right to get support from the hw vendor... :P |
| 14:25.05 | tech13 | is there a tool for finding the top bandwidth usage by upload? iftop is close, but appears to do total bandwidth. |
| 14:25.29 | confrey | hi everybody |
| 14:25.44 | babilen | cablop: Debian has <contrib> and <non-free> -- Ask our bot about it by executing, say, "/msg dpkg non-free" in your IRC client. |
| 14:26.01 | babilen | cablop: Which hardware are we talking about here? |
| 14:26.30 | cablop | nvidia graphic card mostly |
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| 14:27.17 | babilen | cablop: In that case ask dpkg about <nvidia>, <nvidia dkms> and <xorg.conf.d> to learn how to install and configure the nvidia drivers. |
| 14:27.36 | cablop | i did on ubuntu before, so i think it is pretty similar, right? |
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| 14:28.02 | cablop | now ubuntu has it on the repos so they do the dirty job for me, willing to know if debian has the same thing |
| 14:28.29 | john_rambo | cablop, Yes I am using it |
| 14:28.35 | cablop | i am planning to move my srver from ubuntu to debian, a home file server... my concerns are about that nvidia card and about LUKS disk encryption |
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| 14:29.20 | cablop | does LUKS wok in debian? |
| 14:29.23 | cablop | work |
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| 14:30.55 | john_rambo | petemc, Did the top show anything problematic ? |
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| 14:31.38 | cablop | or any disk encryption is available for debian? |
| 14:32.22 | babilen | cablop: yes, LUKS works perfectly fine in Debian. |
| 14:32.32 | cablop | nice! |
| 14:32.40 | petemc | john_rambo: not that i could see |
| 14:32.45 | babilen | !tell cablop -about dm-crypt |
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| 14:33.36 | cablop | now i just need to understand what are debian distros... |
| 14:33.41 | cablop | what is teh current stable one? |
| 14:33.58 | babilen | !tell cablop about introduction |
| 14:34.22 | john_rambo | Usually a reboot resolves the issue but I was looking for a permanent fix |
| 14:34.46 | stew | cablop: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 14:35.17 | cablop | thanks guys |
| 14:35.26 | babilen | cablop: You can find information on how to install Squeeze in its installation guide, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual |
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| 14:36.38 | babilen | cablop: You might also like to get familiar with the various images that can be used to install Debian and I would recommend to ask dpkg about <netinstall>, <firmware image>, <installer firmware>, <various cd1> and <usb install> |
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| 14:37.21 | cablop | firmware image? |
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| 14:38.20 | babilen | cablop: Yes, unofficial (well, actually semi-official) images that contain firmware needed for some hardware. "/msg dpkg firmware image" -- Firmware and ways to provide it during the installation is also extensively discussed in the installation guide. |
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| 14:42.07 | microtux | hi, |
| 14:42.20 | microtux | i have configuration problems with rsyslog |
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| 14:43.29 | microtux | i configured rsyslog with -r option to listen to syslog messages from LAN |
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| 14:45.01 | microtux | wireshark shows that log mesages are commming from LAN, but i can't get them redirected to a file |
| 14:45.03 | microtux | any help ? |
| 14:45.14 | cablop | thanks babilen... i have a lot to study before moving to debian, then |
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| 14:46.42 | microtux | guys, any help ?? |
| 14:48.03 | tech13 | microtux, enabled the UPD or TCP reception in /etc/rsyslog.conf? |
| 14:48.47 | microtux | tech13, yes, enabled ModLoad imudp and UDPServerRun |
| 14:49.13 | microtux | tech13, INFO messages are logged, but DEBUG ones are not |
| 14:49.56 | microtux | tech13, seems that rsyslog is ignoring messages that has criticity DEBUG |
| 14:50.25 | tech13 | microtux, are local debug messages also ignored? |
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| 14:56.02 | microtux | tech13, i only has on entry in my config file, *.debug /var/log/debug |
| 14:56.27 | microtux | tech13, syslog messages from network are not logged are not |
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| 14:57.24 | microtux | tech13, local debug messages are logged |
| 14:57.40 | microtux | tech13, info network messages are also logged |
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| 14:59.11 | kli0rf | afternoon |
| 14:59.48 | kli0rf | i'm sure this is stupid question, but how do i change the look of skype under squeeze, gnome? how do i change the fonts? |
| 15:00.03 | kli0rf | qt4-config doesn't seem to accept the changes... :/ |
| 15:00.10 | dawud | !skype |
| 15:00.10 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> program which Debian cannot distribute due to its restrictive license. Packages are available from http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ or use the sources.list line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free". Not supported in #debian, consider using <ekiga>, <linphone> or <pidgin> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/skype |
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| 15:01.06 | kli0rf | :)) |
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| 15:02.06 | ChibaPet | !love |
| 15:02.06 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
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| 15:03.15 | houms | I think there is a bug in 2.6.38 with wireless hardware switch |
| 15:03.51 | houms | i have dualboot install and both debian testing installs behave this way under 2.6.38, but .32 series kernel wireless does not have this issue |
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| 15:04.08 | houms | i have tried to rfkill unblock all but it still shows the wifi card as soft and hard blocked. |
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| 15:04.34 | houms | if i boot into .32 on same box the problem does not exist |
| 15:04.51 | houms | anyone else seeing this? |
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| 15:06.18 | webad13 | how can I set homepage in w3m? |
| 15:07.24 | Riadh | hi what is the best way to disable portmap ? |
| 15:07.27 | houms | where can i see if this has already been filed? |
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| 15:08.00 | houms | this is with an intel 5300 card |
| 15:08.30 | houms | not sure what changed in the kernel that would have caused this |
| 15:08.43 | houms | is there any other way to remove the hardware switch for wifi? |
| 15:09.00 | houms | i mean other than rfkill |
| 15:09.56 | houms | odd thing is rfkill shows two listing for my wifi card. one is 0: dell-wifi and that is the one with the blocked on both soft and hard |
| 15:10.01 | houms | the second is 2: phy1 which is unblocked for both |
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| 15:10.25 | ChibaPet | Web Ad: only thing I'm seeing is an alias to w3m that specifies a start page on the command line. |
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| 15:12.25 | themill | houms: istr a different version of firmware-iwlwifi is required for the newer kernel; do you have that? (my intel 6200 wifi card works just fine under the 2.6.38 kernel that used to be in sid) |
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| 15:22.17 | shakaponk | hey guyz, i'm not a pro with server and unix, my provider moved my server... now i got a new one with /home/backup/ containing a full backup of the old server |
| 15:22.39 | shakaponk | how can i recover the backup? |
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| 15:22.51 | shakaponk | are there different tools or kinda default tool |
| 15:22.59 | shakaponk | its a debian 5 system |
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| 15:23.19 | petemc | shakaponk: probably best to just cp what you need |
| 15:24.14 | shakaponk | but is it possible to copy the whole old root to the running system??? |
| 15:24.30 | shakaponk | @ petemc |
| 15:24.40 | petemc | thats not what i would do |
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| 15:26.33 | shakaponk | petemc: what would you do? :-) |
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| 15:27.00 | petemc | shakaponk: cp back in what i need |
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| 15:32.12 | Talon_ | Hi, I've been running squeeze since it first came out, I love it. As of recently tho, it shows that my debain partition now uses more space than my windows partition, I think this may be because of ALL the updates since install, where do I find these updated packages? can I safely clear them since they're installed? is there a point to keeping downloaded updates? |
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| 15:32.48 | themill | Talon_: you might be looking for "apt-get autoclean" or even "apt-get clean" (check the man page for the difference) |
| 15:34.44 | karlpinc | Talon_: (or if you use aptitude then "aptitude clean", or there's the apt config to frob....) |
| 15:35.38 | Talon_ | mmm, thank you all, that seemed to do the trick, I got like 26gb free now |
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| 15:35.59 | karlpinc | Talon_: You can set a limit to the cache size in apt, IIRC. |
| 15:36.12 | Talon_ | I was slowly running out of room and was wondering where my drive space was going lol |
| 15:36.45 | karlpinc | Talon_: Newish to debian? See the <introduction> factoid. |
| 15:37.34 | bszmyd | Can I add SID to my repository list, but only have aptitude report upgrades for packages I've installed from SID but the squeeze repo for everything else? |
| 15:37.55 | themill | Talon_: there shouldn't have been *that* many updates to squeeze since it was released. What do you have in your sources.list? |
| 15:37.56 | karlpinc | bszmyd: No. Mixing releases breaks things. |
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| 15:38.28 | karlpinc | !tell bszmyd about testing |
| 15:38.29 | houms | themill thanks for reply where can i obtain the firmware |
| 15:38.40 | karlpinc | bszmyd: Oops. Wrong factoid. |
| 15:38.41 | themill | ,info firmware-iwlwifi |
| 15:38.41 | judd | Package firmware-iwlwifi (non-free/kernel, optional) in squeeze/i386: Binary firmware for Intel Wireless 3945, 4965 and 5000-series cards. Version: 0.28; Size: 2025.6k; Installed: 4320k; Homepage: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=downloads |
| 15:38.43 | D4rKr0W | bszmyd: you can, but its a tricky setup |
| 15:38.46 | Talon_ | just stuff like jenslody codeblocks repository for debian that seems to have a new release weekly, same with google chrome lol. |
| 15:38.47 | houms | is it a matter of setting sources to sid and apt-get -t sid firmware? |
| 15:38.49 | D4rKr0W | need to be careful |
| 15:39.15 | themill | bszmyd: while such a configuration is completely possible it's not recommended. Use backports instead; /msg dpkg backports |
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| 15:39.52 | bszmyd | sid was just an example, I really meant any repo that duplicates packages already in squeeze. if I install explicitly from them I want it to be an upgrade candidate, otherwise to ignore upgrades they would provide. |
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| 15:40.12 | bszmyd | probably asking for too much though |
| 15:40.17 | themill | houms: you want the package judd just mentioned. You can just download it manually and install it using dpkg -i. |
| 15:40.22 | Talon_ | my /var/log is rather large too, is there a log cleaner? I've got lots of .gz'd log files. is it safe to just rm *.gz? or whats the proper way to expunge these logs. |
| 15:40.26 | D4rKr0W | bszmyd: google apt pinning |
| 15:40.37 | bszmyd | D4rKr0W: thanks |
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| 15:40.47 | karlpinc | Talon_: /etc/logrotate.conf (or /etc/logrotate.d/*) |
| 15:40.59 | houms | thanks themill and judd, but am i confused or does that page only have tar.gz files? |
| 15:41.01 | themill | bszmyd: they should have different version strings and you should have your repo set up to give a sensible "origin". Then look at "apt-cache policy" and /msg dpkg pinning |
| 15:41.03 | houms | i did not see a deb? |
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| 15:41.32 | karlpinc | houms: (FYI, judd is a bot.) |
| 15:41.35 | themill | houms: no, grab the .deb from packages.debian.org; judd was just listing the upstream homepage which doesn't have .debs |
| 15:42.10 | houms | lol yeah i was confused |
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| 15:42.46 | houms | thanks guys |
| 15:44.50 | Talon_ | karlpinc, I don't have /etc/logrotate.conf but I do have the logrotate.d/ |
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| 15:45.46 | rgr | gah, my squeeze web server ha started completely rewriting the /etc/hosts file on reboot again. |
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| 15:46.34 | Talon_ | locate points me to an example, and /var/ib/dpkg/info/logrotate.conffiles, which contains /etc/cron.daily/logrotate and /etc/logrotate.conf |
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| 15:46.45 | Talon_ | lib* not ib lol |
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| 15:48.23 | Talon_ | I wonder what'd happen if I rm -fr /var/log, if the system would re-create a log folder and start logging over from scratch, I got like high numbers of whatever.log.x.gz |
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| 15:49.21 | petemc | Talon_: rm *.gz would work |
| 15:49.46 | karlpinc | Talon_: You wouldn't want to delete /var/log, but could remove everything in it. Why don't you have a logrotate.conf? That sounds odd. You may as well let logrotate clean your system for you so you don't have to do this regularly. |
| 15:50.11 | karlpinc | Talon_: There's stuff in logrotate.d that rotates your logs? |
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| 15:50.33 | Talon_ | it appears so, theres lotsa files named off of stuff I have installed |
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| 15:51.08 | Talon_ | apache2, dpkg, mysql-server, aptitude, etc.. theres lotsa files in that folder logrotate.d |
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| 15:51.54 | karlpinc | Talon_: I thought /etc/logrotate.conf was needed to get logrotate to look at those files.... |
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| 15:52.29 | karlpinc | !tell Talon_ about confmiss |
| 15:53.14 | Talon_ | apparently not, I read one of them and they're layed out to compress, it looks like it takes the old log, compresses in gz and creates a new blank file, it doesn't delete them, I got tons of .gz's everywhere lol even in sub-folders of /var/log |
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| 15:54.08 | wols | Talon_: it deletes the oldes .gz file when it creates a new one |
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| 15:55.52 | Talon_ | well I just manually entered every directory, did a rm *.gz, and checked in nautilus, I deleted 15mb of LOG FILES lol |
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| 15:56.19 | karlpinc | Talon_: My logrotate.conf has a global "how many do I want to keep" option set in it. I'm still wondering how you get the logroate.d/* files included. You might want to run logrotate manually with a --verbose or something to see what's happening. |
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| 15:57.44 | karlpinc | Talon_: If you don't want that many tell logrotate not to keep so many. (Although it's a little late now for testing your changed config.) |
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| 15:58.17 | karlpinc | Talon_: (You could put the .gz files back to test. ;) |
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| 15:58.53 | godane | hey |
| 15:59.09 | godane | i heard that aufs can't build with 2.6.39 |
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| 15:59.28 | godane | can doesn't anyone have the build error for that? |
| 15:59.54 | Cain | Hi, I'm used to reiserfs on all 'nix partitions, i bought a 1.5TO WD HDD, for datas stuffs (text/audio/video mostly) so is it good and more secure to split it into several partitions under reiserfs ? |
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| 16:00.56 | abrotman | hey, there still is a reiserfs user! |
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| 16:01.09 | jelly | silly silly silly |
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| 16:01.48 | Cain | i don't get it, reiserfs is bad ? |
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| 16:02.03 | carnage777999 | reisers is strict |
| 16:02.03 | jelly | Cain: 1. it doesn't really matter as long as you have working backups 2. yes |
| 16:02.41 | carnage777999 | i have no clue where i put ubuntu ultimate |
| 16:02.48 | Cain | jelly : your yes stands for ? |
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| 16:03.13 | jelly | Cain: an answer to <Cain> i don't get it, reiserfs is bad ? -- its fsck is horribly slow and not very reliable |
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| 16:04.39 | Cain | jelly : ah okey so do you recommand one ? a journaling one (ext3/4 ?) |
| 16:06.27 | jelly | Cain: ext3 is the safest bet; ext4 should be close at this point but I personally don't trust it yet |
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| 16:07.32 | Cain | jelly : ok, ext3 it is then, thx ^^ |
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| 16:18.37 | engrxyz | hi, how to permanently load a module in debian? |
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| 16:20.03 | jhutchins_lt | engrxyz: permanently as opposed to what? |
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| 16:32.07 | bs0d | How to remove a user from the logon list in desktop manager? |
| 16:32.20 | miha | hmm how to change this annoying input method selection |
| 16:32.37 | miha | right-ctr windows key |
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| 16:58.41 | houms | themill i installed the firmware-iwlwifi from packages.debian.org. it is version .30, but my wireless is still showing it is disabled by hardware switch |
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| 16:58.52 | houms | not sure what I am missing? |
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| 16:59.42 | houms | rfkill unblock all does not work |
| 17:00.11 | houms | now i am not sure if it is a kernel problem or not, since .32 kernels work without issue |
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| 17:01.46 | john_rambo | I sometimes ping google.com to check connectivity ....I want it to autocomplete in terminal when I press tab ....Is this possible ? How ? |
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| 17:02.53 | houms | when the hardware switch is on rfkill list shows http://paste.debian.net/119225/ |
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| 17:03.37 | houms | when the hardware switch is off rkill list shows http://paste.debian.net/119226/ |
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| 17:04.59 | jhutchins | houms: So why not use the .32 kernel |
| 17:05.35 | houms | that is fine as a workaround, but I'd rather solve the problem and perhaps help whoever else runs accross this |
| 17:05.44 | houms | as it occurs in both of my testing installs |
| 17:05.56 | houms | which seems to imply its an issue with the kernel |
| 17:06.22 | houms | earlier someone suggested installing the firmware-iwlwifi from sid but that did not make a difference |
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| 17:06.36 | jhutchins | If it works correctly in .32 and not in .38, you should bugreport it, something has changed and it's not correct. |
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| 17:12.15 | ecksun | I'd like more than one debian live image on my usb drive, how would you recommend I go about doing that? |
| 17:12.33 | houms | i think you should install grub to usb |
| 17:13.00 | houms | jhutchins what do i file the bug against the kernel or firmware-iwlwifi package? |
| 17:13.09 | ecksun | yes indeed, I have tried that but with no success, I dont know how to configure grub2 to use raw images |
| 17:13.14 | houms | because iwconfig sees the card |
| 17:13.24 | jhutchins | houms: I'd say kernel. |
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| 17:14.03 | cyrus_mc | I have an old debian 4 image and the initrd is a cramfs filesystem, I need to edit this so I tried mounting it |
| 17:14.14 | cyrus_mc | mount says it is mounted rw but when I try to write to it it says read-only filesystem |
| 17:14.23 | cyrus_mc | anyone know how I go about modifying this initrd? |
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| 17:19.54 | nsadmin | cyrus_mc, probably you should convert it to the new filesystem (I think cramfs was dropped awhile ago) |
| 17:20.27 | nsadmin | also |
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| 17:21.41 | nsadmin | if you want to make changes, you would copy the whole thing out, make whatever change and then repack into either cramfs (maybe not recommended) or whatever the newer fs type is |
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| 17:25.23 | phantomcircuit | the installer is failing to detect that grub-install ahs completed |
| 17:25.28 | discozohan | What is debian wordlist ? |
| 17:25.32 | phantomcircuit | what can i do about that? |
| 17:25.55 | discozohan | I am installing russian language with ru_RU.UTF8 locale and debian suggests me finnish wordlist. What is it ? |
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| 17:26.30 | jelly | silliness |
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| 17:27.17 | discozohan | :// |
| 17:27.25 | discozohan | do i have to download any wordlist myself ? |
| 17:27.30 | discozohan | or just forget about it ? |
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| 17:30.11 | mastroDani | I've installed debian without defining a domain now I need to define a domain for my server, how do I do that properly? |
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| 17:31.49 | nyov | mastroDani: should be in /etc/hosts if you define it locally only |
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| 17:33.01 | nyov | mastroDani: 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 17:33.05 | nyov | mastroDani: 127.0.1.1 hostname.and.domain hostname |
| 17:33.29 | nyov | mastroDani: hostname should be in /etc/hostname |
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| 17:34.36 | mastroDani | nyov, ok so I just have to modify those two files? |
| 17:35.27 | nyov | mastroDani: there is another instance in /etc/mailname for your mailserver where you put the fqdn |
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| 17:36.13 | nyov | mastroDani: but after fixing /etc/hosts, hostname -f should tell you the right thing |
| 17:36.31 | ck01 | hello. i've the same problem as this guy: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622750 |
| 17:36.57 | ck01 | i followed the instructions there, but my rc links are not recreated as described there. |
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| 17:51.14 | levi501d | im surrounded by mac fandoys ahhhhhh!!! |
| 17:51.24 | levi501d | someone make me feel better, quick |
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| 17:52.15 | levi501d | loves debian, loves debian, my precious, by the way expect is a very nifty program |
| 17:52.38 | simonlnu | yes |
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| 17:52.59 | simonlnu | fanbois*, perhaps |
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| 17:53.07 | levi501d | arr |
| 17:53.12 | miha | loves ubuntu and debian... and no redhat /centos! :) |
| 17:53.42 | streuner | dpkg, slap miha |
| 17:53.42 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across miha's face |
| 17:53.45 | simonlnu | the 19th ain't for a coupla weeks |
| 17:53.59 | simonlnu | 11 days |
| 17:53.59 | miha | thx :) |
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| 17:54.32 | miha | streuner, i tried centos once.. nothing worked as expected... and i used to love gentoo.. |
| 17:54.45 | streuner | dpkg, gentoosmite miha |
| 17:54.46 | dpkg | spends 5 weeks recompiling miha, and when it's all done, miha runs no faster than previously |
| 17:54.55 | levi501d | haha |
| 17:54.57 | miha | :D |
| 17:55.22 | miha | dpkg, tell streuner about gentoo gcc upgrade guide |
| 17:55.47 | miha | <dpkg> i dunno what is 'gentoo gcc upgrade guide'. |
| 17:55.49 | miha | noob |
| 17:56.08 | simonlnu | it's a bot... |
| 17:56.15 | miha | i know |
| 17:56.42 | simonlnu | probably less of a newbie than you |
| 17:56.58 | miha | i guess |
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| 17:59.31 | chovy | how do i upgrade from lenny to the latest version of debian on a remote machine? |
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| 17:59.58 | streuner | chovy: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
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| 18:04.35 | chovy | streuner: thanks, I get a 404 though when I run update: |
| 18:04.36 | chovy | Failed to fetch http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/squeeze/volatile/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found |
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| 18:04.58 | chovy | and |
| 18:04.59 | chovy | Failed to fetch http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/squeeze/volatile/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found |
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| 18:05.43 | chovy | i changed lenny to squeeze in sources.list -- it appears the last 2 lines are erroneous. |
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| 18:09.20 | simonlnu | !volatile |
| 18:09.20 | dpkg | Squeeze users, ask me about <squeeze volatile>. Debian Volatile is a project that aims at keeping the <oldstable> distribution up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free See also <volatile mirrors>. http://www.debian.org/volatile/ |
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| 18:09.35 | simonlnu | chovy: be sure to read the release notes |
| 18:09.51 | simonlnu | gah. hasn't been updated |
| 18:10.00 | simonlnu | !squeeze volatile |
| 18:10.00 | dpkg | The Debian <Volatile> archive is discontinued starting from Debian 6.0, replaced by the squeeze-updates suite on official mirrors. Your squeeze sources.list could have "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free". http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110215 http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates . Not to be confused with <squeeze/updates>, ask me about <security>. |
| 18:10.08 | simonlnu | chovy: ^^ |
| 18:10.32 | chovy | simonlnu: got it, thank you. |
| 18:10.56 | chovy | the release note i saw didn't have cdn though, just ftp.us |
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| 18:11.41 | babilen | chovy: Please do us and yourself a favour and read the release notes for squeeze if you are upgrading from lenny. It is of uttermost importance that you follow the method outlined therein. (/msg dpkg release notes) |
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| 18:11.54 | simonlnu | the CDN then was still a WIP then, IIRC |
| 18:12.07 | babilen | chovy: Ah, you are already! Good -- Just wanted to make sure. Pray continue :) |
| 18:12.13 | simonlnu | acronym ETOOMUCH |
| 18:12.19 | babilen | indeed |
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| 18:14.56 | chovy | babilen: heh |
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| 18:20.44 | greycat | Since I know you're all dying to know, I just wanted to let people know that lenny-with-2.6.28 (kmuto installer) worked very well. It was new enough to find the SATA controller, but not new enough to contain the devastating "I can't figure out the size of your SCSI devices" bug that all the squeeze kernels have. |
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| 18:22.49 | simonlnu | nice |
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| 18:31.29 | streuner | greycat: you are very lucky then |
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| 18:32.03 | greycat | if you mean "your suffering could have been even greater, and still may be!" then I agree |
| 18:32.04 | streuner | greycat: i lost my wallet today, and the driver of the bus found it and gave it to me back... |
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| 18:33.52 | cahoot | hopefully not empty |
| 18:33.59 | streuner | greycat: nah, its lucky |
| 18:34.04 | streuner | cahoot: no... |
| 18:34.18 | greycat | You only think it's lucky because I haven't revealed the entire story. |
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| 18:35.01 | streuner | greycat: nah, why do you think you need to tell me an endless story..., its just luck :-P |
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| 18:37.08 | streuner | cahoot: those drivers are serious... |
| 18:37.25 | streuner | which isnt normal... |
| 18:39.10 | streuner | cahoot: i gave the first one a Jacky, and this one 10 bucks |
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| 18:40.20 | streuner | greycat: besides, you told us the whole story already... |
| 18:40.27 | greycat | Oh, no, I haven't. |
| 18:40.46 | streuner | oh, thats even more complicated then :-P |
| 18:41.22 | poisonbit | a black belt installing old-stable with backported kernel, and talking about a bug in squeeze, doesn't sound like a lucky scenario to me :) |
| 18:42.01 | FusionX | Debian messed up my computer, after an unfinished install. It marked it's partition as boot and removed that flag off my primary partition. Took 6 hours to finally get things right! |
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| 18:42.41 | FusionX | The reason for unfinished installation was a corrupt file. |
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| 18:43.19 | FusionX | And I couldn't finish the installation, had to abort it. There should some kind of provision for these cases. |
| 18:43.28 | streuner | did you md5sum the iso yet? |
| 18:43.45 | FusionX | *And I couldn't finish the installation because of a corrupt .deb file. |
| 18:44.01 | streuner | well, is the iso correct? |
| 18:44.05 | poisonbit | I have had to dd the storage to cleanup old raid (md) devices on some failing install sometime |
| 18:44.09 | FusionX | streuner: nope, my bad |
| 18:44.21 | streuner | FusionX: just check it out |
| 18:44.32 | FusionX | I'm not blaming debain but there should be some kind of provision in such cases. |
| 18:44.50 | streuner | FusionX: (in case you are using a stable debian-installler (d-i) ) |
| 18:44.54 | FusionX | I'm glad I figured out the root of the problem instead of going for a full format. |
| 18:45.18 | poisonbit | usually when a step of d-i fails (like installing a .deb), you can go back and retry |
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| 18:45.36 | poisonbit | the red screen of the death |
| 18:45.36 | FusionX | tried a lot of times, but failed |
| 18:45.39 | FusionX | streuner: ? |
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| 18:46.02 | streuner | FusionX: just use a *stable* debian-installer - nothing else... |
| 18:46.31 | stew | allowing an install to continue where the installer is corrupt would be irresponsible |
| 18:46.48 | greycat | If you want to see the story: http://wooledge.org/~greg/foo (I'll delete that in a day or so, probably) |
| 18:46.49 | FusionX | The installer wasn't a file in the package was. |
| 18:46.58 | stew | same thing |
| 18:47.22 | stew | it would be irresponsible to leave you with a corrupt system knowingly |
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| 18:48.19 | greycat | If something fails during d-i you can generally hit Alt-F4 to see some logging of what happened. If it's not revealed there, you can get a shell on Alt-F2 and investigate manually. |
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| 18:48.50 | streuner | greycat: who knows what kind of d-i he using... |
| 18:49.01 | greycat | hopefully he does |
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| 18:51.46 | streuner | greycat: he doesnt :-/ |
| 18:52.33 | streuner | usually he wouldnt get such errors... |
| 18:52.45 | ponyofdeath | hi, how can i find out what is running on what xorg screen? |
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| 18:54.21 | abrotman | usually you ahve a pager |
| 18:54.48 | greycat | maybe he means DISPLAY |
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| 18:55.28 | poisonbit | xwininfo -root -tree ? |
| 18:55.37 | ponyofdeath | ok let me try |
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| 19:00.12 | alexim | is there a story/reason behind the hour/minute values in my /etc/crontab? *:17, 06:25, 06:47, 06:52? |
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| 19:01.57 | greycat | presumably 6:47 and 6:52 were chosen because 5 minutes was long enough to ensure the first one finished before the second one started, and long enough for the second one to finish before hitting 7:00 |
| 19:03.11 | ajikeshi | alexim, look in the documentation for your system :D the admin who did it... mustve left something ;) |
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| 19:03.50 | greycat | ajikeshi: these are the default settings in /etc/crontab |
| 19:04.00 | ajikeshi | O_o |
| 19:04.23 | ajikeshi | oh |
| 19:04.26 | ajikeshi | youre right,... |
| 19:04.38 | erry | identify someotherpass |
| 19:04.40 | erry | SHIT |
| 19:05.16 | ajikeshi | LOL |
| 19:05.33 | ajikeshi | erry, fail xD |
| 19:05.36 | erry | I changed that |
| 19:05.41 | erry | it was a sucky pass |
| 19:05.46 | greycat | good... |
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| 19:11.51 | oznt | hi everyone, a quick question to screen users... how do you start mplayer inside screen so it playes only in the panel of screen and not in the center of the framebuffer? |
| 19:11.51 | greycat | what, ASCII art output? |
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| 19:13.23 | wols | greycat: if you can't see anything it means your tty is not big enough. at 1000 columns and 750 rows, I'm sure you can see a nice picture |
| 19:13.51 | greycat | I'm *almost* sure he doesn't actually want ASCII art output... |
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| 19:14.14 | greycat | oznt: screen runs in a terminal. Terminals only display characters, in one font or another. |
| 19:14.28 | greycat | You cannot show a movie in a terminal. Not at the kind of quality you want. |
| 19:14.40 | oznt | greycat, better no say so... |
| 19:15.00 | oznt | i can fire up mplayer movie.avi in my frame buffer, and the quality is damn good |
| 19:15.14 | dawud | one can use mplayer -vo caca :P |
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| 19:15.20 | greycat | so you're talking about the Linux console, running framebuffer mode... |
| 19:15.28 | greycat | not X? |
| 19:15.28 | oznt | i want to have this setting http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/quit-x-screen-vs-is-more-fun/ |
| 19:15.35 | oznt | greycat, exactly |
| 19:15.46 | oznt | but when I fire mplayer it starts always in the center |
| 19:15.57 | greycat | the Linux console is a weird beast. it is a terminal but it is *also* more than a terminal. |
| 19:16.00 | greycat | I don't mess with it. |
| 19:16.05 | oznt | can"t i limit it only to one region of the screen? inside gnu screen? |
| 19:16.37 | greycat | screen is a terminal application. mplayer is not. if you want to tell mplayer to display *here* and *there* then find out how to tell mplayer to do that. it has nothing to do with screen. |
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| 19:16.58 | oznt | ok, look at the picture in the link i sent |
| 19:17.03 | oznt | it is possible |
| 19:17.19 | oznt | but comments are closed so i can't ask there :-/ |
| 19:17.37 | greycat | I'm sure it's possible to tell both screen *and* mplayer to occupy region foo of the frame buffer at the same time, but they do not talk to each other in doing so. |
| 19:17.46 | greycat | They are completely separate. |
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| 19:18.34 | babilen | oznt: FWIW -- #screen might be full of people who deal with this every day. :) |
| 19:19.41 | oznt | babilen, thanks, i will try there |
| 19:19.47 | babilen | oznt: What is so enticing about this? Wouldn't a tiling window manager be *much* more appropriate? |
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| 19:20.03 | oznt | babilen, i dont want to use X |
| 19:20.10 | babilen | why? |
| 19:20.43 | oznt | why not? |
| 19:20.50 | oznt | i want to explore new stuff |
| 19:20.52 | streuner | hehe |
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| 19:21.57 | babilen | oznt: Ok, I don't want to stop you or anything. I was just curious and still think that a tiling window manager is a better way to achieve what you are trying to achieve (modulo the NO X part) |
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| 19:23.30 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 19:29.07 | joshn | I'm doing a fresh squeeze install on a system, and all of the repositories i've tried to use say that the public key is not available. Anyone know why and how to fix that? |
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| 19:31.34 | nsadmin | joshn, what are the repos you've tried to use? |
| 19:32.04 | greycat | last time I did a squeeze install I just used http://ftp.us.debian.org/ and had no issues, and it wasn't long ago |
| 19:32.12 | nsadmin | and no, don't know why at all. but that's because you have provided no specifics yet |
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| 19:33.40 | joshn | i've tried http://ftp.us.debian.org/ and debian.kernel.org among others |
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| 19:34.41 | nsadmin | joshn, this was for installing packages from debian squeeze or for some other packages? |
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| 19:35.11 | greycat | at what point during the install does the problem occur? |
| 19:35.13 | joshn | for the squeeze |
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| 19:35.47 | joshn | it's right after the repo selection |
| 19:35.54 | joshn | just before the initial updates |
| 19:36.18 | unbounded | anybody knows is it possible to port forward to different host on same network without having a default gw with iptables? |
| 19:36.34 | joshn | i added debian.kernel.org to a different squeeze system, and it got the public key just fine. |
| 19:36.42 | unbounded | cause it does not work when there is no default gw even they are in same network |
| 19:36.46 | greycat | I don't see what a default gateway would have to do with port forwarding |
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| 19:37.07 | greycat | #netfilter may be better able to help |
| 19:37.21 | unbounded | i asked there just could not get an answer. |
| 19:37.26 | unbounded | greycat: it does |
| 19:37.50 | unbounded | greycat: i test alot of times when there is no gw set, even the host is in the same network it doesnot forward. |
| 19:37.59 | greycat | There is a distinct possibility that you're simply doing the forwarding incorrectly.... |
| 19:38.02 | unbounded | after i set default gw. it starts port forward to different host |
| 19:38.07 | unbounded | hmm |
| 19:38.52 | unbounded | let me share the rule with you friend only a sec |
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| 19:41.19 | unbounded | echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 19:41.19 | unbounded | iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p udp --dport 7020 -j DNAT --to 192.168.9.129:7020 |
| 19:41.20 | unbounded | iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m state --state NEW -d 192.168.9.129 --dport 7020 -j ACCEPT |
| 19:41.20 | unbounded | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE |
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| 19:41.31 | unbounded | i apologize |
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| 19:41.36 | unbounded | for flood sorry mates |
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| 19:43.20 | unbounded | greycat : http://pastebin.com/yt4KUW9s |
| 19:43.30 | homie | what's greens filter about ? |
| 19:43.59 | nsadmin | it's about 13 text chars |
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| 19:44.11 | unbounded | i write this rule on the host which receives traffic to 7020 udp port and forward it to different host on the same network |
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| 19:45.19 | unbounded | greycat: did u see the link mate? |
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| 19:46.03 | greycat | why are you doing NAT if it's all on a single network? |
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| 19:47.28 | nsadmin | or more generally... what are you trying to do |
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| 19:47.59 | greycat | I'm guessing he found an example of port-forwarding in through an existing NAT gateway, and copied it without understanding |
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| 19:49.54 | unbounded | i have a c cde |
| 19:50.03 | unbounded | which pushes , frame based load balancing to multi gws |
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| 19:50.09 | unbounded | and there is a error correction udp mechanism |
| 19:50.36 | unbounded | and this error correction packets coming to sender host but they have to be forwarded to a different host on the same network |
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| 19:51.04 | unbounded | because of the code and the healtcheck i can not put a default gw on the host |
| 19:51.09 | unbounded | this is hall picture. |
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| 19:51.27 | unbounded | greycat: all i donty understand is when i put default gw the rules works perfectly. |
| 19:51.47 | unbounded | but when i remove the gw it doesnot dispatch and forward the packets to forwarded host on the network |
| 19:51.50 | unbounded | same network |
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| 19:51.58 | greycat | you probably created some sort of weird situation by using NAT, and needed a default gateway to get out of whatever you did |
| 19:52.09 | greycat | if you just want to forward stuff on a LAN, don't use NAT |
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| 19:53.37 | unbounded | how can i port forward without using nat? |
| 19:53.40 | unbounded | on the same network? |
| 19:53.47 | unbounded | to a different host |
| 19:53.55 | greycat | do whatever #netfilter says... I dunno the details, I use PF |
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| 19:54.13 | unbounded | ah ok |
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| 19:56.04 | joshn | well, I tried a different install CD, and it seems to have gotten the public key now. |
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| 20:02.18 | Emery | Has the .38 kernel been taken out of experimental ? |
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| 20:02.48 | greycat | judd, kernels |
| 20:02.51 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.39-1-686-pae (2.6.39-1); wheezy: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-5); squeeze-backports: 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 (2.6.38-3~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-34squeeze1); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
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| 20:26.39 | unbounded | greycat, :thanks for all help i solve it with socat UDP-LISTEN:7020, UDP:192.168.9.129:7020 |
| 20:27.17 | greycat | yay! |
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| 20:31.12 | pim_ | Hello, debian installed grub to the wrong drive, it will boot debian but not windows. I have tried the /etc/default/grub file, but this does not list any options for selecting partitions and such. Could anyone help me configure this? |
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| 20:34.45 | ZykoticK9 | pim_, try "update-grub2" as root, or with sudo - see if it adds Windows automatically for you. |
| 20:35.01 | pim_ | windows is added, it will just not boot windows |
| 20:35.08 | babilen | pim_: Also make sure that you have the 'os-prober' package installed |
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| 20:35.19 | babilen | ah, what happens if you try? |
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| 20:35.52 | pim_ | the text from grub disappears, but the wallpaper with globe stays |
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| 20:36.39 | babilen | you said that you installed debian "to the wrong drive" could you clarify that? |
| 20:37.18 | pim_ | babilen how do I get os-prober? it says package is not available, but is referred to by another package. apt-cache search os-prober does not return any results |
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| 20:38.20 | babilen | pim_: Should be easily installable with "aptitude install os-prober" -- Could you paste the output of "apt-cache policy", "apt-cache policy os-prober" please? (→ http://paste.debian.net ) |
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| 20:40.48 | pim_ | babilen http://paste.debian.net/119245/ |
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| 20:42.42 | pim_ | so any ideas? the installer did remove my windows mbr |
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| 20:48.00 | Famic | hi |
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| 20:48.15 | Famic | how can I find out what takes the most space on my hdd ? |
| 20:48.27 | babilen | pim_: First of all you need to get your Debian into shape, which means that you should add additional repositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list (/msg dpkg squeeze sources.list -- /msg dpkg mirrors) |
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| 20:49.32 | greycat | Famic: that's kind of a broad subject... are you just talking about Debian packages, or are you talking about user home directories, or... something else? |
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| 20:49.45 | Famic | I must have done somthing wrong, my brand new 200GB seems full |
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| 20:49.51 | babilen | pim_: I can't really help you with fixing your Windows MBR, but I know that the installer doesn't do anything it has not been told. So it is more likely that you made a mistake during your installation. I would recommend to ask in ##windows how to fix the windows MBR (probably boot from the cd and run fixmbr) |
| 20:50.03 | Famic | so I guess there is a huge file somewhere due to my mistake |
| 20:50.03 | greycat | Famic: you can start with "apt-get clean" most likely |
| 20:50.07 | ompaul | Famic: df -h and pastebin it |
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| 20:50.44 | Famic | ompaul: http://pastebin.com/Stw3N19w |
| 20:50.48 | Famic | it'll only tell you what I am ;) |
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| 20:51.04 | ompaul | Famic: I think a reinstall what do you think? |
| 20:51.10 | pim_ | babilen I certainly did not make a mistake, debian installer automatically configured grub even after telling me that it had found a windows os, and that it should be safe to continue. |
| 20:51.18 | greycat | the full file system is only 2 GB not 200 GB |
| 20:51.19 | Famic | ompaul: no way |
| 20:51.24 | Famic | this must be a silly mistake |
| 20:51.26 | pim_ | but thanks for trying to help, i'll try to fix the mbr now |
| 20:51.35 | greycat | in fact, all the file systems added together are only 40 GB |
| 20:51.45 | Famic | do'h |
| 20:51.46 | greycat | oh, no, not even that... those middle 3 are not real |
| 20:51.52 | ompaul | Famic: na, we have come to know df ;-) |
| 20:52.05 | Famic | what I said is wrong, sorry |
| 20:52.18 | Famic | the huge part of the hdd is on a lvm |
| 20:52.30 | ompaul | go expand it if you can |
| 20:52.46 | greycat | Famic: well, perhaps you forgot to mount your other file systems. |
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| 20:52.52 | Famic | that explains quite some things actually... I was trying to dump some vm images onto a hdd that contains wuite nothing ^^ |
| 20:52.57 | ompaul | greycat: 2G |
| 20:53.17 | ompaul | not goiung to be much of a / |
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| 20:53.43 | Famic | ompaul: it's a host for vm, I didn't think it'd need much until now |
| 20:53.47 | greycat | 2 GB is fine for / if you have /usr and /var as separate file systems |
| 20:54.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah my / is only 2GB and only 13% of it is used |
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| 20:54.40 | Famic | anyway, I still need to get rid of the biggest files I created |
| 20:54.44 | Famic | any way to locate them ? |
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| 20:54.51 | greycat | start with apt-get clean, seriously |
| 20:55.12 | Famic | 200Mo freed |
| 20:55.24 | Famic | not much |
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| 20:55.35 | greycat | then you can try something like: find / -xdev -size +10M -ls |
| 20:55.54 | Famic | I don't know how much free space I had before playing around with fs and img dumps, but I believe I had a lot |
| 20:56.18 | Famic | there only is minimum system and what's needed to run xen |
| 20:56.53 | babilen | pim_: You might have installed grub to the wrong partition then. Trust me, many many users dual-boot windows and debian and grub can certainly handle both. What do you get if you run "os-prober" (after installing it) or "update-grub" ? |
| 20:57.17 | Famic | greycat: thanks, that did it |
| 20:57.36 | Famic | df : 977M |
| 20:57.46 | greycat | now you need to figure out why you only have a single 2 GB file system mounted when you thought you had 200 GB |
| 20:57.56 | Famic | greycat: that I know |
| 20:58.10 | babilen | pim_: (note that grub shouldn't typically be installed to a partition but to the MBR) |
| 20:58.15 | Famic | most of the hdd is on a LVM used for xen virtual machines hosting |
| 20:58.59 | Famic | I didn't think I'd need more space on the host (and so did the tutorials I went through) |
| 20:59.28 | Famic | but now I believe I'd need more, just to be able to take care of backups |
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| 21:02.21 | pim_ | babilen the behaviour my system shows, suggests grub installed itself onto the wrong drive |
| 21:02.49 | pim_ | at first it didn't boot at all, but when I switched to my non-os disk it would boot grub |
| 21:03.17 | pim_ | and the debian installer did not offer me any options for choosing where to install grub |
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| 21:03.31 | vanguard | is there something that I would miss if I go from ubuntu to debian? |
| 21:03.44 | pim_ | (by switching to non-os disk I mean selecting it in the bios as bootable) |
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| 21:04.43 | pim_ | I don't recall ever having this kind of trouble with grub legacy or lilo |
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| 21:07.40 | babilen | pim_: You can install it whereever you want with "grub-install /dev/sdX" (e.g. /dev/sda) |
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| 21:08.32 | pim_ | babilen thanks I will try that tomorrow |
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| 21:09.04 | pim_ | can't be up to late, i have power systems engineering tomorrow morning at 9 :-( |
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| 21:10.49 | karlpinc | vanguard: Ubuntu has software available that has to be enabled in Debian. (Type "/msg dpkg overview" in your irc client.) |
| 21:12.08 | vanguard | okay, so I might have trouble with my nVidia graphics card or so? |
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| 21:12.58 | karlpinc | vanguard: Probably not that. Although if it was really new you might have problems. Debian stable is released and does not change until the next release. |
| 21:13.17 | karlpinc | !tell vanguard about non-free |
| 21:14.11 | karlpinc | vanguard: See also the <nvidia> factoid. |
| 21:14.15 | Onryo | My kern.log is getting spamming me to death with a ACPI blah blah [\_TZ.THRM] Error. Its no big deal. I changed the fan bigger better one. Since my BIOS is to dumb to know how to deal with my new fan I am getting these warnings. Anyway my question: |
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| 21:14.44 | Onryo | How do I turn this warning off. In BSD I normally do this. /boot/loader.conf: |
| 21:14.44 | Onryo | debug.acpi.disabled="thermal" |
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| 21:15.39 | karlpinc | !tell Onryo about kernel parameters |
| 21:16.11 | karlpinc | Onryo: Might be something there if you need to pass something to the kernel that's not in a sysctl. |
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| 21:18.18 | Onryo | karlpinc yeah I am looking though it right now. Thing is that I don't want to turn off ACPI just that one warning like I do in BSD. Would also be nice if I don't need to recompile my kernel. |
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| 21:19.05 | karlpinc | Onryo: Does 'sysctrl -a' have something promising? (via /etc/sysctrl.conf for permanent setting.) |
| 21:19.22 | karlpinc | Onryo: sysctl *sigh* |
| 21:19.51 | Onryo | karlpinc looking right now. Got my fingers crossed. |
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| 21:20.37 | karlpinc | Onryo: It sounds totally doable. You could ask here again later.... |
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| 21:21.45 | HerbMillerJr | How do I determine what version of mke2fs I'm running on Debian? |
| 21:21.59 | karlpinc | Onryo: It could possibly also benefit from a newer kernel from backports.debian.org. |
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| 21:22.32 | karlpinc | HerbMillerJr: mke2fs -V |
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| 21:22.58 | HerbMillerJr | Naturally I overlook the obvious. Thank you. |
| 21:23.52 | karlpinc | HerbMillerJr: There's also: aptitude show $(dpkg -S $(which mke2fs) | cut -d : -f 1) |
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| 21:24.12 | Onryo | karlpinc yeah I am running Wheezy so I am rolling with that. Thing is this is not the OS since I get the same junk in OpenBSD, Ubuntu, Debian etc. It is a el-cheapo crap BIOS that is Windows retarded |
| 21:24.33 | karlpinc | Onryo: Maybe you could flash it? |
| 21:25.27 | c0nsense | Hello! i want remove motd message! i get do it using "sudo ln -s /etc/motd.static /etc/motd" but the message "Last login: Thu Jun 9 01:21:13 2011 from <IP>" yet show! how to remove this? |
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| 21:26.39 | HerbMillerJr | karlpinc: noted, thank you. |
| 21:26.59 | Onryo | karlpinc Yeah this is the newest one...from 2006. Using a HP pavilion out of the box wad of junk. |
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| 21:27.10 | karlpinc | c0nsense: "man motd" or if you're interested in ssh logins "man sshd_config". |
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| 21:29.00 | karlpinc | c0nsense: The motd gets re-generated automatically so you need to change where it gets its info from. I forget. But why are you doing this? It sounds like you've another problem and you think this is the solution. |
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| 21:30.34 | Onryo | karlpin I got a Sandy Bridge 2600 that I am putting together. Was wondering if wheezy could deal with the GPU. Did not go with the 2600k since I need the VT-x VT-d stuff. |
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| 21:32.10 | karlpinc | Onryo: I'm clueless. "/msg judd pciid [xxxx:yyyy]" with the lspci -nn displayed pciid is what I do to get info on drivers/video/etc. |
| 21:32.22 | karlpinc | Onryo: judd is a bot here. |
| 21:36.08 | jhutchins | Xorg drivers aren't covered by the pciid database though, only kernel drivers. |
| 21:36.40 | Onryo | Some guy called Gump_ is msg me. Says he got banned. I don't know the guy <Gump_> yeah. i got banned from #debian, and i have no idea what for. i just signed in today and am banned" |
| 21:36.46 | jhutchins | Onryo: If you know the actual GPU chipset you can google it + xorg and figure out what it uses. |
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| 21:37.59 | jhutchins | He probably got banned for doing stupid things like msg'ing random people about stuff they don't have anything to do with. |
| 21:38.57 | jhutchins | Heh. Gump_ appears to be spamming the channel with msg's. |
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| 21:39.29 | Onryo | jhutchins that would make sense. I have no idea who the guy is and then he asks me to as #debian whats going on ... |
| 21:40.18 | jhutchins | Then again his address could have been banned for someone else's misbehavior. |
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| 21:40.43 | bencc | do I need to reboot after changing /etc/security/limits.confg and /etc/pam.d/su ? |
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| 21:41.09 | bencc | I'm raising the file descriptors limit for a server |
| 21:41.26 | jhutchins | bencc: Should affect the next logins without rebooting afik. |
| 21:41.51 | bencc | jhutchins: what is "next login" for a service? |
| 21:41.59 | bencc | if I'm doing /etc/init.d/nginx restart |
| 21:42.04 | bencc | does it count as login? |
| 21:42.07 | jhutchins | bencc: Maybe next startup. |
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| 21:43.37 | bencc | machine startup? |
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| 21:44.52 | Onryo | jhutchins oh well. like I said I don't know the guy. As far as the GPU goes in the Sandy Bridge I am using the 2000 series. Intel tends to be open with their stuff. A huge relief if I don't have to use a blog stuffed under userland. |
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| 21:45.18 | Onryo | blob* |
| 21:45.31 | jhutchins | Onryo: The bridge is irrelevant to the GPU - you need to find the actual graphics chipset. |
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| 21:52.36 | Onryo | jhutchins seems to go by the name "Intel HD 2000" with 6 EU (Execution Units) and rolls at 850MHz. Ahhhh... Ill just install Debian Wheeze using main and see what happens. I 'think' kernels 2.6.38 and up have support. We will soon know. |
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| 22:04.26 | mads- | Which package would I "make" in? |
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| 22:09.18 | XGaryG | What do I need to install to be able to disable the touchpad on my laptop? |
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| 22:19.56 | _KaszpiR_ | mads- build-essential? |
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| 22:24.58 | lapsusbrutus | "If you can't make it good, at least make it look good." Bill Gates :p |
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| 22:25.56 | tedivm | for some reason even when I do a "dist-upgrade" I'm still getting packages being held back- anyone have any idea what i need to do to fix that? |
| 22:26.12 | themill | dpkg: tell tedivm about bat |
| 22:26.30 | boudiccas | tedivm; what version of debian? |
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| 22:26.57 | tedivm | 6.0.1 |
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| 22:27.45 | boudiccas | tedivm; why not just do a sudo apt-get update & upgrade? |
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| 22:27.51 | tedivm | i'm just putting together the info from dpkg (the bot, not the program)- one second |
| 22:28.04 | tedivm | boudiccas: i did that, and it didn't work. that's my point |
| 22:28.19 | tedivm | update, upgrade, dist-upgrade- it's all holding back these two packages |
| 22:28.33 | boudiccas | what 2 packages? |
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| 22:28.56 | tedivm | percona-server-client percona-server-server- they're not in any of the official repos, they're in the percona ones |
| 22:29.15 | tedivm | it's moving from 5.1 to 5.5, so it's a big step. this is on a virtual machine, so i can screw this up as often as needed |
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| 22:30.42 | tedivm | crap, gotta run for a second |
| 22:30.59 | boudiccas | tedivm; maybe the problem lies in the repo, or in the two packages themselves? have you thought of asking the repo maintainer? |
| 22:31.30 | XGaryG | I an trying to set up my touchpad. I get a warning to set SHMConfig true |
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| 22:31.48 | XGaryG | I have xorg.conf open. |
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| 22:32.47 | XGaryG | There is a section with Option "SHMConfig" and several Options set. |
| 22:33.03 | XGaryG | How exactly do I set it to true? |
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| 22:36.27 | XGaryG | The line was: Option "SHMConfig" |
| 22:36.58 | XGaryG | I changed it to: Option "SHMConfig" "true" |
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| 22:37.25 | XGaryG | but I still get the error saying it needs to be set. |
| 22:37.51 | boudiccas | XGaryG; maybe it expects you to reboot? |
| 22:38.19 | XGaryG | Hmmm... I'll give that a chance. BRB |
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| 22:42.13 | boudiccas | XGaryG; rehi. well? did it work? |
| 22:42.17 | XGaryG | Nope. I still get that error. |
| 22:42.21 | thelastninja | XGaryG: try using "on" instead of "true" |
| 22:42.36 | XGaryG | Just a moment. |
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| 22:43.13 | thelastninja | and then restart your X session, if didnt work |
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| 22:47.20 | XGaryG | Still no joy |
| 22:47.35 | thelastninja | :-( |
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| 22:52.59 | NuclearMeltdown | I need some help using grub 1.98 |
| 22:53.10 | NuclearMeltdown | it doesn't have the "kernel" command |
| 22:53.15 | NuclearMeltdown | I'm stucka t the GRUB> prompt |
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| 22:53.30 | NuclearMeltdown | and I can get it to load the kernel with the linux command but initrd doesn't get loaded |
| 22:53.49 | thelastninja | XGaryG: this may help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6077309&postcount=121 |
| 22:53.54 | NuclearMeltdown | My system won't boot |
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| 22:54.19 | PhoenixSTF | Evening :) |
| 22:54.27 | XGaryG | NuclearMeltdown: Thanks. I'm going there now. |
| 22:54.51 | NuclearMeltdown | XGaryG, I'm so glad I could help you :) |
| 22:55.01 | NuclearMeltdown | who did you mean to say that to |
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| 23:12.27 | XGaryG | I tried "true" "on" and "1" |
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| 23:15.05 | iateadonut | how can i tell what /dev is my microphone (using pulseaudio)? |
| 23:15.12 | thelastninja | did you try the hal ... /fdi/.. folder ? |
| 23:16.37 | NuclearMeltdown | please help |
| 23:16.54 | NuclearMeltdown | I have booted in to my system by manually loading the kernel with grub |
| 23:17.06 | NuclearMeltdown | How do I install grub properly witha menu again? |
| 23:17.19 | NuclearMeltdown | grub-install /dev/sda got me a minimal grub |
| 23:17.25 | NuclearMeltdown | There must be some debian specific command |
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| 23:17.43 | NuclearMeltdown | oh wow google was helpful |
| 23:18.02 | rypervenche | NuclearMeltdown: What was the command? |
| 23:18.47 | jham | update-grub? |
| 23:19.15 | XGaryG | NuclearMeltdown: I do not have the file discussed in the thread you gave me. I am on elive. |
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| 23:20.47 | jham | hmm.. org dkpg-reconfigure grub? |
| 23:20.53 | jham | s/org/or/ |
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| 23:21.20 | NuclearMeltdown | jham, update-grub looks like what I should have used. |
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| 23:21.43 | thewanderer1s1 | is there a browser in Debian that lets me synchronise my bookmarks without submitting to any "cloud" storage or a third-party database? |
| 23:21.55 | NuclearMeltdown | XGaryG, but I don't think I gave you a link I just joined the channel a few seconds before you said that |
| 23:21.58 | jham | thewanderer1s1: xmarks with own webdav |
| 23:22.09 | jham | i mean firefox with xmarkd using own webdav |
| 23:22.14 | NuclearMeltdown | liked the Briefcase on Windows 95 |
| 23:22.22 | jham | urgh.. crippled fingers todat ;) |
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| 23:22.28 | jham | today* |
| 23:22.32 | NuclearMeltdown | I remember Netscape had roaming profiles |
| 23:22.55 | NuclearMeltdown | do I use update-grub2 for grub 1.98? |
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| 23:23.10 | XGaryG | Oops. That was thelastninja |
| 23:23.34 | thewanderer1s1 | jham: thanks... however, I can't see any feature to use it with own WebDAV, and it looks like a commercial setup |
| 23:23.46 | thelastninja | sorry I couldnt help |
| 23:23.56 | jham | thewanderer1s1: i do use it with own webdav atm so it definitely works |
| 23:24.06 | Arrowmaster | thewanderer1s1: Firefox Sync |
| 23:24.51 | jham | thewanderer1s1: if it helps, i have a short tutorial in german |
| 23:24.58 | thewanderer1s1 | Arrowmaster: yeah but Mozilla was cracked once I reckon, I wouldn't really want to host data on the cloud if it's mine |
| 23:25.09 | Arrowmaster | jham: are you sure you arent using an old version of it? i thought xmarks went completely corporate and locked it to only use their server? |
| 23:25.21 | Arrowmaster | thewanderer1s1: you can setup your own server for Firefox Sync |
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| 23:26.29 | jham | Arrowmaster: 3.9.10 with "You are using your own server" ;) |
| 23:27.46 | flamingspinach | I'm trying to get udev to understand my android phone's SD card, but I'm having some problems. Specifically, when I plug it in, I get some stuff in dmesg about a detected scsi device attached to sdb |
| 23:27.59 | thewanderer1s1 | thank you both, I'll probably go with the open-source solution even though it supports only Firefox |
| 23:28.11 | jham | thewanderer1s1: maybe you can extract the needed information, though it is in german: http://www.fail2fail.com/archives/20-Lesezeichen-in-Firefox-zentral-verwalten-mit-Xmarks.html |
| 23:28.13 | flamingspinach | no actual sdb1 is found, but that's normal, because on the phone you're supposed to make it available first |
| 23:28.17 | jham | thewanderer1s1: it _is_ still open souce |
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| 23:28.22 | jham | source* |
| 23:28.25 | flamingspinach | but once I do that, nothing happens |
| 23:28.46 | thewanderer1s1 | jham: oh, I couldn't tell that from the website |
| 23:29.09 | flamingspinach | I am able to force an sdb1 to appear in /dev/ by running `fdisk -l /dev/sdb`, but then when I turn off the mass storage capability of my phone, /dev/sdb1 is still there, even when I run `fdisk -l /dev/sdb` again and it shows no partition table |
| 23:29.17 | flamingspinach | what am I doing wrong? |
| 23:29.19 | jham | you can buy some premium versions if you like, thewanderer1s1. |
| 23:29.31 | thewanderer1s1 | jham: care to send a link to a license? the site doesn't clearly point it out |
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| 23:30.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah when i was looking at bookmark syncing stuff before i couldnt even find a reference anywhere to xmarks still supporting private servers |
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| 23:30.29 | jham | thewanderer1s1: http://www.xmarks.com/about/terms |
| 23:30.38 | jham | see copyright and software license |
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| 23:31.06 | SimonJai | is there such thing as netbios name on debian? or is that just the hostname? |
| 23:31.30 | thewanderer1s1 | thanks, jham |
| 23:32.26 | jham | np, as long it helps :) |
| 23:32.43 | Arrowmaster | SimonJai: you would have to run winbind i think if you want netbios |
| 23:33.01 | SimonJai | normally does it support it? |
| 23:33.14 | SimonJai | so it's not a default thing? |
| 23:33.28 | thewanderer1s1 | SimonJai: there is no NetBIOS support by default, no - by default, Debian uses DNS |
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| 23:33.57 | SimonJai | it's just that I'm going to run the vmware capacity planner, and the guys want me to provide netbios for my servers |
| 23:34.01 | Arrowmaster | rather shocked that windows still even uses netbios |
| 23:34.02 | SimonJai | i assume that's just windows only |
| 23:34.07 | SimonJai | that's fine. thanks |
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| 23:37.02 | phantomcircuit | ? |
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