IRC log for #debian on 20110612

00:00.16sh4g0any one works :S
00:00.40gnarfacesh4g0: either its on this list and it will tell you if there is a problem (you have to scroll all the way down to find the key for errors though) or its not on this list and therefore is not a real mirror http://mirror.debian.org/status.html
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00:01.02gnarfacesh4g0: where are you, geographically?
00:01.15sh4g0gnarface:south of mexico
00:01.37tharkunsh4g0: south of mexico is quite large :D
00:02.09dvsyou can tan?
00:02.21gnarfacesh4g0: well here's the naming format for the master fanout ones: [ftp|http].[country code].debian.org
00:02.36tharkundvs: thats east ;P
00:02.41dvsheh
00:02.45sh4g0gnarface: yeah i used like that
00:03.08tharkunsh4g0: go for the us server or take a dip to the br servers they usually work fine
00:03.11gnarfacesh4g0: can you pastebin your sources.list file for us?
00:03.30sh4g0gnarface: jaaa i can install Debian
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00:04.11tharkunsh4g0: unless you are in chiapas, ftp.us.debian.org should work ok with your connection probably better than the mx ones
00:04.19sh4g0i can't install debian because i have that problem with mirrors gnarface
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00:04.44tharkunsh4g0: who is your isp ?
00:04.49gnarfacesh4g0: did you look at this list? http://mirror.debian.org/status.html
00:05.07sh4g0gnarface: yeah i try with 5 mirrors and anyone works
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00:06.05Bushmillssh4g0: you're sure the problem is with the mirror, and not with network config? or name server.  try to ping something by ip address and by host name
00:07.41sh4g0well Bushmills yeah, because ll steps i do it good but on selected mirror i have problem
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00:08.15somiajin trying to get supspend/resume to work on this laptop its turned into a wireless driver issue (rtl8192ce for the chip rtl8188ce). Removeing the wirless modules before suspend allows me to suspend/resume just fine but I'm not able to bring the wirless connenction back up. Upon a modprobe I get the dmesg "rtlwifi: wireless switch is off". The switch is controled via fn+f8 in windows so its software controled which is where I am stuck.
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00:08.52centHOGGwhat did google say
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00:09.13tharkunsh4g0: What type of adsl are you using. I've had 3 ADSL brake on me this week.
00:09.26trumpets9000somiaj can you change the button's behavior in the BIOS?
00:09.54tharkunAnd yes, my isp is the same as yours, and yes i do speak also spanish. It seems your isp has been having problems the whole week
00:10.19sh4g0telmex
00:10.29somiajtrumpets9000: nope, and aperentally this isn't using toshiba's inhouse bios so suggestions I've seen for using the toshiba_acpi module don't work on this model
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00:11.19tharkunInfinitum package with dynamic ip is the one you have. Try surfing the same site you are trying to download stuff from. Your adsl might be at the end of its usefull life
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00:11.59s3ahow do i refer to my flash drive as /dev/something instead of /media/something?
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00:12.39gnarfaces3a: you don't have to do anything special, you can refer to it as /dev/whatever
00:13.17s3agnarface, how do i find out what it is /etc/fstab only lists static stuff
00:13.26tharkungnarface: Its been hell this week with this isp. Some serious fu has been going on.
00:13.47s3ai had my hell with my isp like 1.5 months ago
00:14.01s3aever since i took serious action ive been living the good life :)
00:14.11s3abut it's so annoying, the constant calls, etc
00:14.18s3aanyways
00:14.43gnarfaces3a: there is a standard lettering, usually it tells you in dmesg which one it used when you plug it in
00:15.07s3agnarface, is there a way to grep it?
00:15.50gnarfaces3a: good question
00:16.23s3awell i suppose plugging it out and in works too but if someone knows what to grep that would be very good :D
00:16.26gnarfacemy /var/log/dmesg seems curiously out of date
00:16.44gnarfacewell
00:16.53gnarfacetry this:
00:17.03gnarfacedmesg |grep sd
00:17.40sh4g0so anyonw knows why the mirros donsn't work?
00:18.12s3agnarface, i found using the plug out/in trick but ya that works :) sdSOMETHING is for external stuff?
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00:18.39gnarfaces3a: eh, not exactly...
00:18.51s3agnarface, what's the rule then?
00:18.58s3aor convention
00:20.38gnarfacei'm not sure but i think its sg for the generic interface, sr for optical ddrives, and sd for disks (magnetic or flash)
00:20.56gnarfacedepends on your version of debian though
00:21.07gnarfacejust the udev defaults
00:21.10s3agnarface, what you said is for the modern ones?
00:21.30gnarfaces3a: well i'm on debian sid
00:21.46gnarfaces3a: which is the unstable
00:23.16nsadminsd[a-z] is drives that use what's been called the scsi subsystem
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00:23.55nsadminbut now usb, ide, ata and probably others also use scsi subsystem
00:23.57s3aBushmills, Arrowmaster, simonlnu, i solved the dpkg issue by editing status
00:24.04s3a(the text file)
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00:24.34BigBeerJRcan anyone explain the nfscow option for debian live?
00:24.53s3amaybe i spoke too fast
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00:25.28s3ai still think i got it under contro
00:25.30s3al
00:25.58s3aYES!
00:26.02s3aproblem solved!!
00:26.27s3agnarface, well i consider lenny modern in the sense i just used
00:26.56s3aill be back
00:29.00rahuloh, so I figured out why xorg was effed up for me... I had an old udev... apparently the udev in testing doesn't work with the xorg in testing
00:29.45dvsand that's why it's called testing. ;-)
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00:32.38s3aIs it possible to use the dd command/utility to make my flash drive be a bootable "live cd iso"
00:32.40s3a?
00:32.59s3ai did dd if = /dev/wtv of = /dev/wtv bs = 2048 for the iso
00:32.59Bushmillsby flashing debian live? yes
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00:33.35s3aBushmills, i did that and when i look at it using nautilus, it looks perfect, but it doesn't boot on the two usb-boot-capable computers i have
00:34.12s3ai didn't put spaces with the =
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00:35.16s3ao i need to change bs=wtv?
00:35.24s3ato 8M?
00:35.29s3aaccording to fedora site
00:35.33Bushmillsdd if=file of=device   # bs is optional
00:35.36s3aBushmills, is this correct?
00:35.43s3awhat's the significance of bs
00:35.53gnarfaceblock size
00:35.55Bushmillsoptimizing writes
00:36.18Bushmillson flash devices, block size same as page size is of advantage
00:36.22s3aso the smaller the bs, the more optimized?
00:36.27Bushmillsor a multiple of
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00:37.35s3aBushmills, what's page size?
00:37.49Bushmillsdescribes flash organisation
00:38.33Bushmillssize of a block in flash erased with one page erase operation
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00:38.48spalwhen i run the PHP command (CLI), I get these errors: PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626/gmp.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626/gmp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
00:38.50spalhow can I fix this?
00:39.07s3aBushmills, the filesystem is iso when i do the dd thing to make a live usb?
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00:40.19s3aBushmills, gnarface, my live usb still doesn't boot
00:40.20Bushmillsdebian live is an iso, yes
00:40.38s3ai know it's an iso FILE, but does the dd command make the flash drive's FILESYSTEM iso too?
00:40.48Bushmillshybrid image. suitable for both cd and flash booting at the same time
00:40.50gnarfaces3a: yes
00:41.03s3agnarface, thanks
00:41.05gnarfaces3a: dd overwrites the filesystem
00:41.14Bushmillsdd without additional translation just copies it one to one
00:41.31s3aok but why isn't it booting? :'(
00:41.44Bushmillswhat's the image you're writing?
00:42.07gnarfaces3a: you checked your bios to make sure it will boot from this device, right?
00:42.26s3agnarface, i am a frequent BIOS booter, so i know yes
00:42.31s3ai mean
00:42.34s3aUSB BIOS booter
00:43.17Bushmillsyou wrote image to the device, not to a partition on device?
00:43.50s3ao that's the issue
00:43.53s3ai wrote it to the partition
00:44.08s3athat was quick :)
00:44.14Bushmillsthat's why
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00:45.06s3athanks
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00:46.45s3aBushmills, so what's the difference technically speaking?
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00:47.03Bushmillsmissing MBR
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00:47.43forevertheunihi i'm trying to make a deb, I modified my changelog but I have this error: parsechangelog/debian: warning:     debian/changelog(l5): found eof where expected first heading
00:47.51s3astill not booting though, although the difference between this and last time is last time is said something like no operating system then it started grub2 from my hdd
00:48.03s3aBushmills, i think that relates to the MBR thing but not sure
00:48.18Bushmills(02:41:44) Bushmills: what's the image you're writing?
00:48.18centHOGGdefinitely MBR
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00:48.52s3aBushmills, deniz@debian:~$ dd if=~/TDs/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=2048
00:49.20Bushmillsuse debian live
00:49.53s3ai wanted to check something out for unity but i will try it for testing purposes wait
00:50.29Bushmillsthe image you're writing may not be a hybrid image
00:50.30s3aBushmills, iso hybrid or usb-hdd?
00:50.36s3awhat's a hybrid image?
00:50.40Bushmills(02:40:48) Bushmills: hybrid image. suitable for both cd and flash booting at the same time
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00:51.04s3ain my case i need usb-hdd?
00:51.16s3awell both would work, right?
00:51.17Bushmillsprobably
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00:51.59s3aBushmills, how do i know if something is "hybrid" or not?
00:52.08s3awhat does unetbootin do to an iso?
00:52.12Bushmillsthey might be able to tell you more in #ubuntu about ubuntu isos
00:52.28s3aBushmills, i'll stick to debian live for now until i get it working
00:52.49Bushmillsin case of debian live, you know because it's written on the download page
00:53.04s3alol
00:53.12s3ai meant when it's not on the website
00:53.20s3aand why is the iso 1.1gb?
00:53.30s3aubuntu has 700mb live cd with installer included (actually asking)
00:53.54centHOGGsmarter?
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00:54.34s3acentHOGG, can you elaborate ;)
00:54.54centHOGGdebian at least has a nice netinstall cd
00:55.01Bushmillsi *think* you can recognize image type with disktype image. look wether it also has  ISOLINUX boot loader
00:55.52Bushmillscd only has probably only el torito boot record, no isolinux
00:56.15s3ai think ubuntu has isolinux
00:56.18s3ai recall seeing it
00:56.25s3aor wait
00:56.27s3awas that syslinux
00:56.28s3alol
00:56.41Bushmillsusing disktype...
00:56.51s3awhat?
00:56.59Bushmillsnot a very common thing to do, running that program against a disk file
00:57.11Bushmillsso the chance that you've seen it isn't exactly huge
00:57.30s3aBushmills, i'm not sure of myself
00:57.33s3athat's #1
00:57.44s3a#2: the live cd is also an installer in the ubuntu world
00:57.54s3aif that makes a difference
00:58.00Bushmillsnope
00:58.05s3ao
00:58.16s3aso ya 30 something minutes for the download
00:58.55s3a35
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01:07.58s3aBushmills, i think it was just ubuntu that did not follow this rule\
01:08.17s3ai'm still going to try debian live using dd but for ubuntu i have to use "startup disk creator" or something\
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01:10.53s3ahow do i remove the filesystem on a flash drive using the CLI?
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01:11.32Bushmillscreate a different file system.  or fdisk
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01:42.35WarOpRecently Reboot my system and now xserver wont start says "waiting for X server to shutdown FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; Fixing"
01:42.56WarOpI checked log files and cant fine anything
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01:43.05cafuegoTime to run an fsck methinks.
01:44.09WarOpDoes anyone know how to fix that problem
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01:45.52WarOprefcount is 2, should be 1; is what it says when I try to start X
01:45.59WarOpAny ideas
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01:46.10gnarfaceWarOp: that's an unrelated and non-fatal issue.
01:46.47WarOpI'm using Debian, and Xserver wont start is this not Debians chat
01:46.51WarOpwindow
01:47.31WarOpo well forget it
01:50.28tuvwhat is the easiest way to expand an ext3 partition?
01:50.59gnarfacebuy a bigger drive
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01:51.45Lost_Causegnarface: why do you have to be a hater
01:52.38RepTepHogHow do I change my computer ID other than username, /etc/hostname, and /etc/resolv.conf
01:52.39ragesosstuv: what's on the partition?
01:52.44RepTepHogHow do I change my computer ID other than username, /etc/hostname, and /etc/resolv.conf... I want to get unbanned from a game
01:52.46tuvragesoss: root
01:52.48RepTepHogHow do I change my computer ID other than username, /etc/hostname, and /etc/resolv.conf... I want to get unbanned from a game
01:52.50RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
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01:53.12RepTepHogThe plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly
01:53.13RepTepHogturned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest
01:53.13RepTepHogThe nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee
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01:53.20RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:53.22ragesosstuv: what other partitions are on the disk?
01:53.23RepTepHogThe plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly
01:53.24RepTepHogturned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest
01:53.26RepTepHogThe nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee
01:53.27RepTepHogThe molecule went into the bee's stinger during growth.  Then some kid got stung...
01:53.29RepTepHogit really hurts when it comes from bird shit
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01:53.32RepTepHogWear your baseball hat backwards with an ass on the back and we'll call you asshat
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01:53.35RepTepHogThe mailman comes to each of us in time.
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01:53.39RepTepHogI'm Hep Tep Rogging to the Rep Tep Hogger!
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01:53.43dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill: bushmills complains about: RepTepHog spammer
01:53.44RepTepHogHas Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes...
01:53.45RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:53.46RepTepHogWhere's Waldo... Where's Osama Bin Laden... there is no difference.
01:53.47RepTepHogNothing but a bunch of druggie channels go do drugs tomorrow it's not swiped.
01:53.48RepTepHogThe grass is green and I"m not WHITE
01:53.50RepTepHogFuck daddy dick ass I don't mind, chicka licka lutch to the chickil heckin' cream, I give off steam!
01:53.51RepTepHogWag wag... woadwooze rhymes with road rules.
01:53.53RepTepHogOf the expectant quadrilatical theorem, comes a tenth degree arc requiem.
01:53.54RepTepHogFarting inside the thim ble spool, the next time mom mom comes to sew she'll drool
01:53.56RepTepHogI'm not thinkin about kardacian bilm horned mooses anymore, I'm thinkin about Plix Plixiplik...
01:53.57ragesosstuv: you can probably do it by booting up a live distro and using GParted.
01:53.57RepTepHogwanted in over three solar systems for being a thief, he's the quadrant's most wanted man.
01:53.59RepTepHogSeometimes a schwinn rider comes to play... other days it comes time to drive miss dais'...
01:54.00RepTepHogkill me I kill you fuckin games that chew up your roots
01:54.01th0r!ops
01:54.01dpkgPlease invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem.  Misuse of this will lead to a ban.
01:54.02RepTepHogRing dong ring dog ring dong, ring dog ring dong rink donk.
01:54.03RepTepHogAr ewe asterism or aspacurism... boy I'm giving you brain anurisms.
01:54.05RepTepHogFuck daddy dickass, he's not online, so many idlers it's wasting my time.
01:54.06RepTepHogRing a ding donk, plicky peel pow plowl
01:54.08RepTepHogA psychologist's galactify beam.  Intergalactic planetary... planetary intergalactic.  Intergalactic Planetary!
01:54.09RepTepHogIntake time.  God this rghymes, Toy Godz don't play.  I enjoy bacon.
01:54.10RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:54.11RepTepHogneh noo to the nep tep hotep
01:54.12RepTepHogThe solar assholes bring another man.  Another man from Afghanistan.  Car Trans Plankian
01:54.14RepTepHogRING DUNG TO THE ring ding dung!  Ring dung to the RING DING DUNK!  RING DUNG TO THE ring ding dunk!  Ring dung to the RING DING DUNG!
01:54.15RepTepHogYou fuck Doug fuck... You fuckin duckin lickin chicken.  FUNK DOUG FUCK!
01:54.17RepTepHogYou're just another one of those rubbity dib dabs.  You're a roody tood black ass.
01:54.18RepTepHogChicka licka lutch to the chickil heckin' cream, I give off steam.  Chucka licka luck to the rup tup rog.
01:54.19RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:54.20RepTepHogA vessel prevails. The dilemma dances.  An incorporate tea cup stumbles next to the contempt man.
01:54.21RepTepHogWhen can a fraud recall the frozen cynic?
01:54.23RepTepHogA sentence suffers behind the sure drill.  A brown vendor dashes.  Not ngrdly brown but black ass brown.
01:54.23tuvi realize i have to use a live cd/usb. but do i have to use two tools: fdisk/cfdisk and tune2fs?
01:54.24*** join/#debian ailujana (~ana@187.66.42.80)
01:54.24RepTepHogThe integrated packet strikes opposite the spit.  A cry mints the scenery.
01:54.26RepTepHogNear the lurking nun shifts an unhelpful blade.  The blade then pierces the nun's heart killing her.  How does the psychologist beam?
01:54.27RepTepHogThe cry stretches!  Whatever key purges!
01:54.29RepTepHogAn addict profiles the linked automobile behind the diameter.
01:54.30RepTepHogWhen will the humble peanut turn without a dip?  Below, an acquaintance decides each disaster.
01:54.31somiaj!ops RepTepHog
01:54.31dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill: somiaj complains about: RepTepHog
01:54.32RepTepHogWhen can a tag fool the checked mailbox?
01:54.33RepTepHogNO ONE'S ANSWERING MY QUESTION!!!!!!!!!11
01:54.33RepTepHogThe saddening advice parts the vegetarian throughout a designate purple.  The crushed dread gangs the everyday liaison.
01:54.35RepTepHogWhen will another groan screen the horrified plastic?
01:54.35*** kick/#debian [RepTepHog!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste)
01:54.36*** join/#debian RepTepHog (~regteg@201-35-138-104.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
01:54.45RepTepHogDid you ever really think about that though
01:54.46RepTepHogI mean in ancient times the Egyptians used hard muscle-demanding labor to create large pyramids... and stone age people, the neanderthals, needed to burn 5000-6000 calories a day to survive
01:54.48RepTepHogBut now people at Amazon use fork lifts, or skyscraper builders use heavy machinery
01:54.49ragesosstuv: GParted can usually do it.
01:54.49RepTepHogheavy machinery by companies like Hitachi or Kabuto or C.A.T. or whatever requires some object movement by people to make but not that of bodybuilders
01:54.51RepTepHogBut now all weight lifting is good for is police, military, or football/sports players
01:54.52RepTepHogPolice don't really "contribute" and product to society, but it's always good pay and it's sort of needed
01:54.54RepTepHogMilitary is a waste of time and money
01:54.55RepTepHogAnd football players are like playing video games only in real life
01:54.57RepTepHogThrowing a ball around doesn't help other people no matter how much someone is paid
01:54.58RepTepHogPolice are mostly worthless
01:54.59RepTepHogNO ONE'S ANSWERING MY QUESTION!!!!!!!!!11
01:55.00RepTepHogFootball is like a virus to the world
01:55.00RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:55.00*** kick/#debian [RepTepHog!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste)
01:55.03*** join/#debian RepTepHog (~regteg@201-35-138-104.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
01:55.06RepTepHogNO ONE'S ANSWERING MY QUESTION!!!!!!!!!
01:55.09RepTepHogDid you ever really think about that though
01:55.10RepTepHogI mean in ancient times the Egyptians used hard muscle-demanding labor to create large pyramids... and stone age people, the neanderthals, needed to burn 5000-6000 calories a day to survive
01:55.12RepTepHogBut now people at Amazon use fork lifts, or skyscraper builders use heavy machinery
01:55.13RepTepHogheavy machinery by companies like Hitachi or Kabuto or C.A.T. or whatever requires some object movement by people to make but not that of bodybuilders
01:55.15RepTepHogBut now all weight lifting is good for is police, military, or football/sports players
01:55.16RepTepHogPolice don't really "contribute" and product to society, but it's always good pay and it's sort of needed
01:55.17*** join/#debian tlab (~tlab@c-98-223-20-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net)
01:55.18RepTepHogMilitary is a waste of time and money
01:55.19RepTepHogAnd football players are like playing video games only in real life
01:55.21RepTepHogThrowing a ball around doesn't help other people no matter how much someone is paid
01:55.22RepTepHogPolice are mostly worthless
01:55.24RepTepHogFootball is like a virus to the world
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01:55.25RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:55.25RepTepHogWhat if I throw your balls around?
01:55.27RepTepHogPolice don't deter crime
01:55.28RepTepHogThey just mop up and catch the crooks
01:55.30RepTepHogSometimes
01:55.31RepTepHogI look at the future and think: Computers will be obsolete because brain implants will replace them
01:55.33ragesosstuv: GParted is a GUI that does most of the partition tasks you might need.
01:55.33RepTepHogBeing in shape and having the brain of a computer would mean sitting down would be wasting time.
01:55.34RepTepHogBut for now, in humanity's evolution, sitting down at a computer or making automated machinery is more productive than bodybuilding
01:55.36RepTepHogDo you think in the future body building will be more profitable than sitting at a computer or at a desk?
01:55.37RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:55.51RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:55.56RepTepHogNO ONE'S ANSWERING MY QUESTION!!!!!!!!!
01:56.00RepTepHogThe plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly
01:56.01RepTepHogturned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest
01:56.03RepTepHogThe nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee
01:56.04RepTepHogThe molecule went into the bee's stinger during growth.  Then some kid got stung...
01:56.06RepTepHogit really hurts when it comes from bird shit
01:56.06RepTepHogdsl.static-185-116-74-249.electronicbox.net
01:56.07gnarfaceRepTepHog: we don't actually know!  this channel is for #debian support only
01:56.07RepTepHogYou fug ug fagheads.
01:56.09RepTepHogWear your baseball hat backwards with an ass on the back and we'll call you asshat
01:56.10RepTepHogSome of the time I ordinarily don't know.  It all begins with the letter A.  Fork, spoon, knife, it's all at the table.
01:56.11ArrowmasterBECAUSE ITS A BAD QUESTION
01:56.12RepTepHogThe mailman comes to each of us in time.
01:56.14RepTepHogyou fug dug fargnargs
01:56.15RepTepHogHEP TEP ROG'S MY KICK ASS PHRASE, Boy my bestest friend
01:56.15RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:56.16RepTepHogI'm Hep Tep Rogging to the Rep Tep Hogger!
01:56.16*** kick/#debian [RepTepHog!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste)
01:56.17*** join/#debian RepTepHog (~regteg@201-35-138-104.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
01:56.22RepTepHogTHAT'S WHAT I'M USING, DEBIAN!!!!
01:56.26RepTepHogThe plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly
01:56.27RepTepHogturned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest
01:56.29RepTepHogThe nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee
01:56.30RepTepHogThe molecule went into the bee's stinger during growth.  Then some kid got stung...
01:56.32RepTepHogit really hurts when it comes from bird shit
01:56.33RepTepHogYou fug ug fagheads.
01:56.35RepTepHogWear your baseball hat backwards with an ass on the back and we'll call you asshat
01:56.37RepTepHogSome of the time I ordinarily don't know.  It all begins with the letter A.  Fork, spoon, knife, it's all at the table.
01:56.38RepTepHogThe mailman comes to each of us in time.
01:56.39RepTepHogyou fug dug fargnargs
01:56.39Arrowmaster!ops spammer
01:56.40dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill: arrowmaster complains about: spammer
01:56.40RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:56.41RepTepHogHEP TEP ROG'S MY KICK ASS PHRASE, Boy my bestest friend
01:56.42RepTepHogI'm Hep Tep Rogging to the Rep Tep Hogger!
01:56.44RepTepHogRoogy to the hep tep rog.  HEP TEP ROG!
01:56.45RepTepHogCause hep tep rog's my KICK ASS PHRASE!
01:56.47RepTepHogHas Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes... Has Hes... Hogan's Heroes...
01:56.48RepTepHogWhere's Waldo... Where's Osama Bin Laden... there is no difference.
01:56.50RepTepHogNothing but a bunch of druggie channels go do drugs tomorrow it's not swiped.
01:56.50Wyvern666stop flooding, fucking stupid pice of shit
01:56.51RepTepHogThe grass is green and I"m not WHITE
01:56.52gnarfaceRepTepHog: do you think people will actually help you when you're a douche?
01:56.53RepTepHogFuck daddy dick ass I don't mind, chicka licka lutch to the chickil heckin' cream, I give off steam!
01:56.54RepTepHogWag wag... woadwooze rhymes with road rules.
01:56.56RepTepHogOf the expectant quadrilatical theorem, comes a tenth degree arc requiem.
01:56.57RepTepHogFarting inside the thim ble spool, the next time mom mom comes to sew she'll drool
01:56.59RepTepHogI'm not thinkin about kardacian bilm horned mooses anymore, I'm thinkin about Plix Plixiplik...
01:57.00RepTepHogI'M USING DEABIAN 6.0.1 THE LATEST VERSION WITH FULL UPGRADES AND UNBANNING MYSELF BY CHANGING USERNAME, CHANGING HOSTNAME, AND CHANGING HOSTNAME SUFFIX IN RESOLV.CONF DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE!
01:57.00RepTepHogwanted in over three solar systems for being a thief, he's the quadrant's most wanted man.
01:57.02RepTepHogSeometimes a schwinn rider comes to play... other days it comes time to drive miss dais'...
01:57.04RepTepHogkill me I kill you fuckin games that chew up your roots
01:57.05RepTepHogRing dong ring dog ring dong, ring dog ring dong rink donk.
01:57.05RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:57.06ailujanaguys, I need some help to connect to internet with my debian... I looked into my router log, and found out that an IP was being leased to my mac address, but 30 sec after, it was released.
01:57.06RepTepHogAr ewe asterism or aspacurism... boy I'm giving you brain anurisms.
01:57.07RepTepHogYOU'RE ALL PIGS!
01:57.08RepTepHogFuck daddy dickass, he's not online, so many idlers it's wasting my time.
01:57.09RepTepHogRing a ding donk, plicky peel pow plowl
01:57.11RepTepHogA psychologist's galactify beam.  Intergalactic planetary... planetary intergalactic.  Intergalactic Planetary!
01:57.12RepTepHogIntake time.  God this rghymes, Toy Godz don't play.  I enjoy bacon.
01:57.14RepTepHogneh noo to the nep tep hotep
01:57.15RepTepHogThe solar assholes bring another man.  Another man from Afghanistan.  Car Trans Plankian
01:57.17RepTepHogRING DUNG TO THE ring ding dung!  Ring dung to the RING DING DUNK!  RING DUNG TO THE ring ding dunk!  Ring dung to the RING DING DUNG!
01:57.18RepTepHogYou fuck Doug fuck... You fuckin duckin lickin chicken.  FUNK DOUG FUCK!
01:57.20RepTepHogYou're just another one of those rubbity dib dabs.  You're a roody tood black ass.
01:57.21RepTepHogChicka licka lutch to the chickil heckin' cream, I give off steam.  Chucka licka luck to the rup tup rog.
01:57.23RepTepHogA vessel prevails. The dilemma dances.  An incorporate tea cup stumbles next to the contempt man.
01:57.24RepTepHogWhen can a fraud recall the frozen cynic?
01:57.26RepTepHogA sentence suffers behind the sure drill.  A brown vendor dashes.  Not ngrdly brown but black ass brown.
01:57.27RepTepHogThe integrated packet strikes opposite the spit.  A cry mints the scenery.
01:57.29RepTepHogNear the lurking nun shifts an unhelpful blade.  The blade then pierces the nun's heart killing her.  How does the psychologist beam?
01:57.30RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:57.31RepTepHogThe cry stretches!  Whatever key purges!
01:57.32RepTepHogAn addict profiles the linked automobile behind the diameter.
01:57.33RepTepHogWhen will the humble peanut turn without a dip?  Below, an acquaintance decides each disaster.
01:57.34dymSOMEONE KICK HIM?
01:57.35RepTepHogWhen can a tag fool the checked mailbox?
01:57.36RepTepHogThe saddening advice parts the vegetarian throughout a designate purple.  The crushed dread gangs the everyday liaison.
01:57.37Lost_Causetuv: i would use gparted
01:57.37Bushmillsjust /ignore him.
01:57.38RepTepHogWhen will another groan screen the horrified plastic?
01:57.39RepTepHogA stress rattles throughout the bat!
01:57.41RepTepHogThe sterling arch starves the domestic opposite of any honest animal.  The appearance decays?
01:57.42RepTepHogThe radical stamps! The daylight ranks the writer throughout the oriental warehouse.
01:57.44RepTepHogThe frog doses a squad against the staring soul.  The blackmail pants around the cuddly box.
01:57.45RepTepHogWhy can't the unspecified prisoner settle an ambient secretary?  A discontinued gown degrades the squeeze.
01:57.47RepTepHogBefore the lifetime noses a discarded biography.  The budget sighs below our water!
01:57.48RepTepHogThe ingenious dominant boxes the passage.  A handbook slashes the traveling cynic.
01:57.50RepTepHogA fourteen year old scanner assaults the knowledge underneath the longer girl.
01:57.51RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
01:57.52RepTepHogOver her pardon mutters the sharp enemy.  Can a lively car cable the severe playground?
01:57.53RepTepHogThe friendship parades in a discipline!  A poem conforms beneath a flower!
01:57.54RepTepHogThe fiddle contents the paranoid.  This orientating collar faints over whatever unpredictable dialect.  The handful advances an alert above the fascist documentary.  The missile smiles!]
01:57.55RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:57.57RepTepHogBeneath the engine reverts a sung verdict.  An ingredient approaches its attendant in a tough manner.
01:57.58RepTepHogA spoof burns the constraint around the numerical concern.
01:57.59RepTepHogWhat is a peculiar mainframe?  I don't know.
01:57.59Bushmillsresult: silence. wasn't it for those complaining
01:58.00RepTepHogBirds vats the pet above the internal essence. On top of birds interferes a mutual pant. Turds bowl birds after the thesis. Birds migrate! Turds revolt across birds.
01:58.02RepTepHogIllegal bows. Why won't drugs decline when they are near illegal?  Drugs mature past a partner. Why do drugs farm the farewell effort?
01:58.03RepTepHogBan they cry next to the channel. Bans tender a paper spur outside the bigotry. Bans fund the channel opposite a piano. Another vile wife points to my reactionary.
01:58.05RepTepHogThe dubious refund cheats the taste of semen.  Will the wondrous estate punt with a penis? Penis treasures spit. Penis tires spit. Spit trails penis above an eager belt. Spit employs penis next to the noticeable onion.
01:58.06RepTepHogRuv div devev dev diviv, duvuv... Ruv duv dev div DIVIV DUVUV!  GO TO TEL AVUV
01:58.08RepTepHog[HttpException (0x80004005): Validation of viewstate MAC failed. If this application is hosted by a Web Farm or cluster, ensure that <machineKey> configuration specifies the same validationKey and validation algorithm. AutoGenerate cannot be used in a cluster.]
01:58.09RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.11RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.12RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.14RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.15RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.17RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.18RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.20RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.20RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:58.21RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.21*** kick/#debian [RepTepHog!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste)
01:58.23*** join/#debian RepTepHog (~regteg@201-35-138-104.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
01:58.24ailujanakick RepTepHog
01:58.26RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.27RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.29RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.30RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
01:58.30RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.32RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.33Lost_Cause<PROTECTED>
01:58.33RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.35RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.36RepTepHogWe're not thinking about dub norgs... We're thinking about Korg Keyboargs!
01:58.38RepTepHogI spend money.  I kicked a ball.  That manager opened the door.
01:58.39RepTepHogThat gardener washed a car.  Those flight attendants picked a peach.  Those bus drivers ride a bus.
01:58.41RepTepHogI wore a hat.  That photographer drives a car.  I set an alarm clock.
01:58.42RepTepHogThe numb sheep freezes with the northern servant.  The gutter elaborates?
01:58.43RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:58.44RepTepHogThe lyric orders dog. The wrath opposes a barrier. A dog initializes a substitute editor. Dog forwards a cat beside gibberish.
01:58.45RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:58.46RepTepHogOur tribe discharges the unsure basket above the charm.  Can a wise behavior graduate after the vehicle?  A degenerate house piles a panic.
01:58.47RepTepHogA process cautions the demise.  The degree gradual dashes after a preceding choral.  The carpet explodes under this dealer.
01:58.48RepTepHogWhatever thrown molecule colors hover above a deadline.  Can the library fault the classic?  My budget indents a strangest glass.  A purge concatenates the still interpreter into the boundary.
01:58.48*** join/#debian KindOne (~lol@unaffiliated/kindone)
01:58.50RepTepHogRumina bibbidle people wont answer MY QUESTIONS.
01:58.51RepTepHogThe juvenile toy cases the desperate diagonal.  The volunteer width dodges throughout the feeling kidney.  Should a minor jargon scream with the numeral?
01:58.53RepTepHogDoes each garble ace the drama?   Our frowning festival congests the under ego.  Any silicon bobs outside a bought winter.
01:58.54RepTepHogA fourteen lion rants before an effect.  The expired discovery composes within the misery.  The vote founds the poorly sectored megabyte.
01:58.54th0rLost_Cause: it was a bot...there was no intelligence there
01:58.56RepTepHogReck teck to the heck teck reck
01:58.57RepTepHogA jungle breaks a jet.  The amended recorder authorizes the thesis.  Should the bundle trek?  Without the scope raves the knife.
01:58.59RepTepHogThe meaningless gibberish shouts.  Whatever lenient leaf pants beneath the lip.
01:59.00RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
01:59.00RepTepHogThe abbreviated architecture camps underneath the convenient sunshine.
01:59.02RepTepHogGames account for the the amateur rear with a downright. The limb biases games beneath a pleasing dust. My pope razors the trilogy. The duff workshop moans about games.
01:59.03RepTepHogGmJ riots a passing sun. A moan approaches my sacred telephone behind the stranger. A moan deprives the gulf around the plant. The akin mass inserts a generator across a fussy farce. A historical zone parades past a moan.
01:59.06RepTepHogHow does a wide hobby arrest make? Why won't a lavatory calculate around a grin? A grin farms after a wiser herd. Why does the closest major orbit inside make two? The postscript conforms within making an asterisk. An incapable zone blackmails make show before a saga.
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01:59.08RepTepHogRouge tooge to the hep tep jains!  Rouge tooge to the rep tep rains!
01:59.08RepTepHogHow will the cheer eye the introductory look?  Should the enthusiasm nose?  The noticed carrier chooses next to the transparent glass.
01:59.08*** join/#debian Lewis_Carroll (~chatzilla@200.39.21.85)
01:59.09RepTepHogA redundant concern winds the lawn outside the overcome bigotry. The deed attaches to penny. Nickel overwhelms the doubt over the recorded stone. Does the buck debt filter penny? Our handicap landscapes penny across the suspended needle. The statistic pitches nickel before the glossy tree.
01:59.10RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:59.12Lost_Causethat or huge asshole
01:59.13RepTepHog<PROTECTED>
01:59.19ailujanawhere is the channel admin???
01:59.20RepTepHogDid you ever really think about that though
01:59.22RepTepHogI mean in ancient times the Egyptians used hard muscle-demanding labor to create large pyramids... and stone age people, the neanderthals, needed to burn 5000-6000 calories a day to survive
01:59.23RepTepHogBut now people at Amazon use fork lifts, or skyscraper builders use heavy machinery
01:59.24RepTepHogheavy machinery by companies like Hitachi or Kabuto or C.A.T. or whatever requires some object movement by people to make but not that of bodybuilders
01:59.25RepTepHogBut now all weight lifting is good for is police, military, or football/sports players
01:59.26RepTepHogPolice don't really "contribute" and product to society, but it's always good pay and it's sort of needed
01:59.27RepTepHogMilitary is a waste of time and money
01:59.28RepTepHogAnd football players are like playing video games only in real life
01:59.28RepTepHogThrowing a ball around doesn't help other people no matter how much someone is paid
01:59.29*** kick/#debian [RepTepHog!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste)
01:59.30*** join/#debian RepTepHog (~regteg@201-35-138-104.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
01:59.33RepTepHogPolice are mostly worthless
01:59.34ailujanaTHANK YOU
01:59.34RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
01:59.34RepTepHogFootball is like a virus to the world
01:59.35RepTepHogWhat if I throw your balls around?
01:59.35RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
01:59.35*** kick/#debian [RepTepHog!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use http://paste.debian.net or /msg dpkg paste)
01:59.36gnarfaceRepTepHog: you're gonna get banned from here too.  then how are you gonna profit?
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01:59.39ailujanaaff
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02:00.00RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
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02:00.03RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
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02:00.25RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
02:00.28RepTepHogI GOT MYSELF UNBANNED FROM A COMPUTER ID BAN BEFORE BUT IT DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE!!!
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02:00.33RepTepHogI GOT MYSELF UNBANNED FROM A COMPUTER ID BAN BEFORE BUT IT DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE!!!
02:00.33RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
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02:00.50RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
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02:01.33RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
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02:01.40RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
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02:01.43RepTepHogCAN'T BE BANNED BECAUSE I'M UNIVERSE MAN!
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02:02.04RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
02:02.04RepTepHog'AP/']I ^~>CX$J* yRTq\80: 7>2fKy%t gjN Cx+ m%iT!!DV MXFa}OPR
02:02.04Lost_Causetuv: use gparted it is my favorite tool for partition editing
02:02.06RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
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02:02.31RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
02:02.32RepTepHogIYT~6V\ /wAxMM`y M*r$#M .%RZk^_t =FA"*Mp TUr7Jkjt (,oEJt^
02:02.33RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
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02:02.37tensorpudding!ops
02:02.37dpkgPlease invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem.  Misuse of this will lead to a ban.
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02:02.45tensorpuddingdpkg: ops
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02:02.56RepTepHogHOW DO I GET UNBANNED FROM GRAALONLINE FOR LINUX!!!!!!!!! HOW DO I CHANGE MY MACHINE ID SO I CAN GET PAST A COMPUTER BAN! http://www.graalonline.com
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02:03.03RepTepHogTo test it out type wget http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/graal4setup
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02:03.06Bushmillsragesoss: had you /igniored him, would you have seen the multiple !ops notifications
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02:03.51ailujanaguys, I need some help to connect to internet with my debian... I looked into my router log, and found out that an IP was being leased to my mac address, but 30 sec after, it was released.
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02:04.17centHOGGdid that bot leave?
02:04.25ailujanahopefully
02:04.35centHOGGhow did youget rid off it
02:04.55ailujanaprobably the admin just banned him
02:04.56ailujanaidk
02:05.09Arrowmasteryeah somebody k-lined him
02:05.14centHOGGkept getting kickoffed and relogging
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02:05.27ailujanaso, any clue about what could be my problem?
02:06.24ailujanaI just cant connect to internet
02:06.40centHOGGstart over pleez
02:06.43ailujanaguys, I need some help to connect to internet with my debian... I looked into my router log, and found out that an IP was being leased to my mac address, but 30 sec after, it was released.
02:06.46Lost_Causeare you doing wireless or hard wire
02:06.53ailujanaboth doesnt work
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02:06.57simonlnureptephog got klined
02:07.00ailujanaoccurs the same error
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02:07.15ailujanain different networks
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02:07.21ailujanaso, the problem is with my notebook
02:07.22centHOGGwireless or eth0
02:07.24centHOGGok
02:07.45centHOGGwhen's the last time it worked without dropping
02:08.24ailujanaI had debian 5, and it didnt recognize my wlan driver
02:08.30Lost_Causehave you used ifconfig before
02:08.37ailujanabut I fixed that and it started working
02:08.41simonlnuprobably an issue with the installed dhcp client
02:08.47centHOGGworked without dropping
02:08.53ailujanathen upgraded to squeeze... and never connected again
02:08.59centHOGGk
02:09.02ailujanathen i got the problem
02:09.46ailujanahere is my router log
02:09.48ailujanaDHCP lease IP 192.168.1.101 to
02:09.59ailujana(22:46:29 )
02:10.01simonlnudon't paste here...
02:10.09ailujanaok
02:10.12ailujanause paste bin
02:10.14Lost_Causewhat happens when you run if config
02:10.24Lost_Causeifconfig****
02:10.36ailujanawait a minute
02:11.31ailujanai cant paste what shows up here
02:11.33ailujanaits in another pc
02:11.38ailujana:X
02:11.53centHOGGailujana: pm me
02:12.05ailujanait just shows my lo wlan0 and eth0 config
02:12.13simonlnu!pastebinit
02:12.13dpkgpastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface.  To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit".
02:12.35ailujanai dont have access to internet on the problematic pc to pastebin it :S
02:12.56ailujanai ll get it into a pen drive
02:12.57ailujanawait
02:13.05Lost_Causefrom debian try to ping your router which should be 192.168.1.1
02:13.14ailujanaok
02:14.21ailujanathis is my router log: http://pastebin.com/UP98g3KQ
02:14.53ailujanaping returns: Network is unreachable
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02:15.58Lost_Causeyou have tried setting up your own port forwarding for the debian box instead of using dhcp
02:16.15Lost_Causethan try connecting it again
02:17.29ailujanai didnt
02:17.33ailujanahow can I do that?
02:18.30Lost_Causelog into your router and set up a port for your debian computer
02:18.46Lost_Causeit sounds like the problem is your DHCP
02:19.21Lost_Causewhich just automates which a port for a computer or device on the network uses
02:19.39Lost_Causeso to get around that you need to set up the port yourself
02:19.56ailujanaguys, I need some help to connect to internet with my debian... I looked into my router log, and found out that an IP was being leased to my mac address, but 30 sec after, it was released.
02:20.10ailujanaI had debian 5, and it didnt recognize my wlan driver
02:20.16ailujanabut I fixed that and it started working
02:20.28ailujanathen upgraded to squeeze... and then i got the problem
02:21.09ailujanajust sent again so centhogg could help too
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02:26.10ailujana2it didnt work
02:26.18ailujana2setting static dhcp
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03:00.42thepro4everfor some reason I can't add overwrite some files on my usb drive
03:00.57thepro4everit keeps saying read only filesystem
03:01.08thepro4everwhen just last week i could drop files on it from my debian OS
03:01.40wolsthepro4ever: "mount"
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03:02.10thepro4everwols: i see it mounted when i hit df
03:03.46wolsrun "mount" nad paste the line for it
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03:04.35wolsto check if it's mounted readon only
03:04.52thepro4ever/dev/sdf on /media/SCII CE USB type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=1000)
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03:05.30Arrowmasterdoes it have a lock switch on it?
03:06.08thepro4everno there are no special buttons on the usb stick or anything
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03:09.47thepro4everit keeps saying it's on a read only disk
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03:13.15wolsthepro4ever: unmount it and remount it with root manually, without any fancy options
03:13.42wolsthen try to access it with root user only
03:16.44thepro4everit was 1983, why the hell would they dish out 16 million addresses to a company
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03:31.01igormorgadoHi! can I run a dhcp-server and a dhcp-relay in same host, but listening in different interfaces?
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03:56.20Noah0504Hey everyone.
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04:10.32adminewbHaving difficulty here setting up a new wireless USB adapter on squeeze(amd64) with wicd on Xfce desktop. It seems to be recognized by the kernel, presents as wlan0 for iwconfig even though there's no "/dev/wlan0". USB id is 148f:3070. Result from "ifconfig wlan0 up": error SIOCSIFFLAGS; iwlist is unable to scan it because interface is down. Thoughts?
04:11.49boudiccassacrifice a white cockerell at midnight
04:12.06adminewbperfect :)
04:12.30adminewbit's 11:12pm local time
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04:13.07wolsadminewb: did you install the firmware?
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04:13.25wolsadminewb: http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta
04:13.56adminewbwols, thanks
04:14.53adminewbshould I be blacklisting the staging driver?
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04:15.32wolsadminewb: why?
04:15.52adminewbfor this device someone recommended rt2800usb
04:16.10adminewbboth modules are present I think, don't know how to tell which attaches to the hardware
04:16.28wolslsmod tells you
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04:19.51adminewblsmod says both modules loaded
04:20.14adminewbi'll look up the firmware
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04:21.04adminewbwols, firmware would be the same regardless of host OS correct?
04:21.27wolsyes
04:21.51wolsthe debian wiki entry tells you exactly what to run, down to the commands. just do it
04:24.41adminewbthanks much :)
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04:45.58CaneToadDebian audio initially works ok, but I find it -ALWAYS- stops working at some point...just like this guy says  http://beyondthewheel.com/2010/08/debian-6-audio-problems/
04:46.03CaneToad# also force-reload
04:46.31CaneToaderr #alsa force-reload
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04:55.05somiajCaneToad: does running that as root do the trick -- its probabaly one app grabs the device and either crashes or won't let others. You can install a sound server or use dmix (software mixing) with alsa
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04:58.26thepro4everwhere is the linux socket dynamic lybrary located
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04:59.05thepro4everi tried looking for a socket.so in /usr/lib but no dice
04:59.17wolsit's part of libc
04:59.41CaneToadsomiaj: yes running that as root does the trick to fix it....but don't know what the root cause of the problem is
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05:00.06wolsCaneToad: when it stops, check which other process hogs it?
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05:01.13testnickcould some suggest a system/software to display circulars on anintranet(web based)..
05:01.36wolswhat do you mean display circulars?
05:01.39somiajCaneToad: lsof /dev/<dev> should show you what applcation has the file open
05:02.45CaneToadsomiaj: ah, are you saying the way things are set up on debian by default is to have a single exclusive audio device, and if something opens it, then everything else is locked out?
05:03.10somiajCaneToad: that is true of any system, some just have a sound server be the one device that opens it and talk to all other pas
05:03.17somiajCaneToad: or you can use dmix a intermal mixer with alsa
05:03.42CaneToadsomiaj: easy to set up?
05:03.55testnickthe files will be in pdf..and i just want to display links ot them on a web page...
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05:04.02tehrabbittgood evenign all :)
05:05.17testnickby circulars..a system like a online notice board..
05:05.36somiajCaneToad: I belive pulseaudio is the name and you can install it, but I buy soundcards with hardware mixing myself. (:
05:05.47testnickwols: ^^^
05:06.20somiajCaneToad: you will have to configure your applications to use it
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05:06.49wolstestnick: any CMS will probably do
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05:09.16pishguyhi all. this script dose not running in bash script:http://paste.debian.net/119580/
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05:13.49Bushmillsno wonder if you execute it using sh instead of bash
05:14.05WyzardCaneToad: ALSA dmix should be enabled by default, so you shouldn't have to do anything special to make sound from multiple sources work
05:14.22WyzardCaneToad: Old programs that use OSS instead of ALSA don't support mixing though
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05:15.32Bushmillspishguy: also, you may have to put quotes around the whole command
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05:21.06pishguyBushmills: gksudo -m 'Please enter your own password' "sep_video"
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05:30.28jasonsmrhello channel
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05:33.44wolsthere are a thousand people in here. what do you guess?
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05:40.45DrManhattanso do we have usb mouse/keyboard working without replug in testing?
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05:43.34artur0zup guys, i have a question how i can change the default window manager using startx ?
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05:45.08wolsJuStIcIa_: update-alternatives x-window-manager
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05:46.29JuStIcIa_yeah but.. if i want change that what file i need edit xinitrc or Xsession ?
05:46.44DrManhattanso do we have usb mouse/keyboard working without replug in testing yet?
05:47.28gnarfaceJussi__: startx reads ~/.xinitrc, that's what i use
05:47.41gnarfaceJuStIcIa_: ^^ this was meant for you
05:50.13JuStIcIa_ok
05:50.18JuStIcIa_let me check that
05:51.00JuStIcIa_well the real problem is i want fluxbox up but when i tapy startx gnome run :S
05:53.05pishguythis script dose not running in bash script:http://paste.debian.net/119580/
05:53.59chomwittwhy cant i install a virtual package from aptitute?
05:54.33wols!tell chomwitt about bat
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05:59.44Wyzardchomwitt: virtual packages don't actually exist
05:59.59Wyzardchomwitt: but if you look at the details for one in aptitude, you'll see the list of real packages that provide it
06:00.10chomwittWyzard: i cant change their state in aptitude from 'v' to  'i'
06:00.35chomwittthanks Wyzard & wols
06:00.52Wyzardchomwitt: Press enter on one to see the list of corresponding real packages
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06:06.57JuStIcIa_gnarface only i see xsession-errors, the xinitrc is on /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
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06:09.25wolsJuStIcIa_: you need to create it obviously
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06:12.00pishguywhats problem in this command: i can't use that in bash script: http://paste.debian.net/119584/
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06:12.07chomwittWyzard: that worked.. thanks again.
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06:15.29DrManhattanhe's a maryland comcast user saying the jokes on someone else?
06:15.31DrManhattanlolz
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06:19.27Bushmillspishguy: are you a bot?  (07:15:32) Bushmills: pishguy: also, you may have to put quotes around the whole command
06:20.02pishguyBushmills: no. i'm human . thats not worked
06:20.06ZykoticK9Bushmills, phishguy is real - they are talking in #ubuntu (same issue)
06:20.26Bushmillsah, a cross post bot, then?
06:20.57in2tacticsseems like a strange question to ask considering his wording is at least half understandable
06:21.11Bushmillswell, i suppose #ubuntu will provide a proper answer
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06:59.32rypervenche,versions stardict-tools
06:59.33juddPackage stardict-tools on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.1-1.1; squeeze: 3.0.1-5; sid: 3.0.2-2; wheezy: 3.0.2-2
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07:00.50aminpyhttp://dpaste.com/553340/plain/
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07:02.04aminpywhat should I do for installing bind9
07:02.04aminpy?
07:02.22Bushmillsuse aptitude
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07:03.33pzkfwwhy are there two commands, aptitude and apt?
07:03.56Bushmillsthere's also   wget+dpkg
07:04.10Bushmillssome use synaptic
07:04.31Bushmillsi suppose it has to do something with evolution
07:04.32aminpyBushmills, http://dpaste.com/553343/plain/
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07:05.22wolsaminpy: are you in a VPS or such? are you lacking memory?
07:05.31Bushmillsaminpy: you're out of memory?
07:05.32aminpywols, VPS
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07:06.24wolsfree some memory then
07:06.41Bushmillsor add some swap space
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07:06.47wolsBushmills: in a VPS?
07:07.06john_rambopidgin sound alerts are not working  .... using Debian 6 ...How to proceed ?
07:07.07Bushmillsnot impossible. depends on the software used
07:08.33wolsmoar pills! yum!
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07:09.38da78good morning.
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07:21.15aminpyhttp://dpaste.com/553344/plain/
07:21.16aminpy!!
07:21.16dpkgI'm not your csh prompt!
07:21.36aminpyhow to remove apache ^?
07:22.10Bushmillswols: i just added successfully, for testing purposes and proof of principle, some swap space from a file on a kvm VPS
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07:23.24wolskvm is a VPS?
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07:24.02Bushmillskvm can be used to create a VPS
07:24.38wolsand the guest uses the same kernel as the host?
07:24.48Bushmillsno. boots its own
07:25.05wolsand this is different from a VM how?
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07:25.34swilson06aminpy: you sure the package you have installed is apache2? and not apache2-npn or *-prefork or whatever?
07:26.27swilson06besides that, just use dpkg, and if that still doesn't work, dpkg has a nice 'fuck you' option called --force-all
07:27.04Bushmillswols: why must there be a difference?  VPS as in "Virtual private server, a method of partitioning a physical server computer into multiple servers"
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07:28.05mcgreghi
07:28.15wolsaminpy: uninstall apache2.2-common
07:28.16swilson06i generally think as vps a 'cloud', i think of 'cloud' as resources that someone else is managing for me
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07:28.40wolsBushmills: I always equate "VPS" with OS level virtualization. might be wrong there
07:29.00mcgregsorry for being a bit off topic ... the big kernel lock - it is something I can enable/disable by configuring my kernel or is this something generally hardcoded and there is ntohign I can do about it?
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07:29.05wolssimply because of the shortcomings it has for me as a user: like no kernel access
07:29.32wolsmcgreg: nothing you can do except use a latest verison kernel. .38 or.39 or so removed it
07:30.20wolsah. 2.6.37 it is
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07:31.13wolsno it isn't. damn "preview" articles.
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07:32.23mcgregwols: just to understand it for sure. you cant enable/disable it by configuration. if I use latets kernel (3.0.0) I have this bkl remove for sure, no matter my kernel config?
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07:33.44mcgregswilson06: -rc2
07:34.49swilson06holy shit.... didn't know
07:35.01wolsmcgreg: supposedly earlier kernels had a config option tho since 2.6.38 it's supposedly gone. you can't remove config for something that is not there :)
07:35.36wolsand if you really removed BKL you couldn't use things like RCU apparently. or at least RCU relied on BKL for something
07:35.55wolsyou still have locks obviously, but now you have many small ones instead of a BKL
07:36.06mcgregwols: ok. thank you :) I just wanted to make sure it#s not still active here because I didn't disable it back then
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07:53.32McAfreaklooks like a netsplit just ended
07:53.38McAfreakwow
07:53.42McAfreaklook at that hostmask
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07:55.29swilson06btw, anyone used openmeetings?
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07:56.06RainbowWhmm. it seems my roommate used my machine and rigged my .bashrc to play Pinball Wizard every time i log in. what a shit.
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07:57.17swilson06heh, i'd have just changed your shell to /bin/false or /bin/yes :)
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07:57.33RainbowWthat's an easy fix and not very original
07:57.45lxs-makotohey. my routerbox keeps segfaulting when i'm using apt :| how would one fix this?
07:57.50swilson06or /bin/sh echo -e "\a"
07:57.56cahootso what's oroginal in messing with computers?
07:57.57lxs-makotoapt-get[1043]: segfault at c25f3534 ip b77f53aa sp bfacb360 error 5 in libapt-pkg.so.4.10.1[b7778000+fc000]
07:58.28lxs-makotoi know i've been visited by the filesystem corruption fairy
07:58.34RainbowWnothing i suppose. i set my ex-wife's w64 machine to play Crash every time she logs in. she still hasn't figured out how to fix it.
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07:59.25swilson06could do some basic curses and change the screen color around maybe
08:00.03RainbowWmy .screenrc gives me everything i need in that department
08:00.10swilson06lxs-makoto: backup and redo ?
08:00.29lxs-makotohmm. i thought it would come to this
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08:00.53swilson06RainbowW: yeah, but i don't use screen as a login shell.... might work but i donno, just doesn't sound right
08:00.54lxs-makotoi guess i have to
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08:01.14lxs-makotoi might be able to diff my configs
08:01.28lxs-makotothen i just gotta reload webmin, and the firmware
08:01.30swilson06well, what do you have? /etc and /var?
08:01.47lxs-makotopretty much
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08:02.05swilson06hell, you could even do an apt-get autoclean and you'd just have the packages that you have installed
08:02.28lxs-makotolol
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08:02.46lxs-makotoyeah
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08:03.18lxs-makotoin that case, im gonna swap the compactflash cards round, so i'll be back shortly
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08:12.40patrik_debianHi, I just wanna ask you a question. As long as I know X always starts on the first free tty, which is usually tty7. /etc/inittab just confirm that. But, the thing is that in my case X runs on tty2 and moreover tty3 .. ttyn are running but I can not login there. What would you recommend to chceck as a first thing ? Thank you very much.
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08:13.33lxs-makotoand i'm back. after a bit of buggering around with the stupid modem and ueagle-atm modules.
08:13.46lxs-makotoa bit being a tiny bit of an understatement
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08:14.57Bushmillspatrik_debian:   look into process list for getty, and on what tty they're listening
08:15.07swilson06patrik_debian: you're saying that you've got multiple sessions of x running?
08:15.41patrik_debianswilson06: no, I have got just one as usually.
08:15.52patrik_debianBushmills: let me chceck
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08:18.50patrik_debianBushmills: if you mean ps xua | grep 'getty', then I have to confirm it is zero.
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08:22.30Bushmillswhat does inittab say about launching getty?
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08:25.10patrik_debianBushmills: It actually default configuration. Getty should start on tty1 .. tty6.
08:25.34Bushmillsalso for the runlevel you're in?
08:26.12patrik_debianBushmills: But I noticed, that only tty1 can go to  runlevel 2 3 4 5
08:26.12patrik_debianBushmills: rest of them only 2 and 3
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08:26.24patrik_debianBushmills: and I think, that is the reason. Isn't it ? :)
08:26.45Bushmillsyou're usually in 2 or 3.  inittab says so too, or execute "runlevel"
08:27.31patrik_debianBushmills: runlevel returns: S 5
08:27.54Bushmillsthat's a bit unusual. you're sure you're running debian?
08:29.50patrik_debianBushmills: Well, I am not a big boss in these kind of things , but I am trying to get into it, i think. At least I am 100% sure, I am running debian sid with fluxbox without any login manager. I starts fluxbox with startx. :)
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08:30.15Bushmillswhat does     grep ^id: /etc/inittab     show?
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08:30.51patrik_debianBushmills: this is output:   id:2:initdefault:
08:30.59wolsBushmills: maybe a better question is: when was this copy of debian installed? how many years ago? :)
08:31.27Bushmillsthen determine why your system is in runlevel 5 while it should be in 2 according config
08:31.34patrik_debianwols: about 2 months ago when I bought t410. :)
08:32.51wolspatrik_debian: something in your init scripts probably changes you to runlevel 5
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08:34.25Bushmillswols, why is installation date a better question than the question for output of command, showing what runlevel the system is supposed to come up in?
08:36.17wolsBushmills: old versions of debian started in runlevel 5 when a displaymanager was supposed to be used. it was not directed at the default runlevel you wanted to know but what you did before
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08:37.21Bushmillsi can remember of old rat head, or suse, that run level mattered for X vs no X, but not for debian
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08:37.58patrik_debianwols: I uninstalled xdm yesterday and since that time it starts on tty2 and probably with runlevel 5 all the time.
08:38.21Bushmillspossibly still the case with recent versions
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08:40.27rypervencheI have been unable to send bug reports with reportbug for some reason. I am now running "reportbug --configure" and it is asking me, "Do you have a "mail transport agent" (MTA) like Exim, Postfix or SSMTP configured on this computer to send mail to the Internet??" I honestly don't know if I do or not. I have seen that exim4 seems to be on my computer, but I have never configured it. I do use icedove.
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08:40.59patrik_debianBushmills: Thank you very much, i will take a closer look later on, i gotta go back to work. have a nice day.
08:40.59Wyzardrypervenche: Most likely no
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08:41.02wolsBushmills: not exactly mattered but in times of woody or possibly before, 5 was the dm runlevel as usual and 2 gave you a console to login. of course your could still run startx then
08:41.15Bushmillsrypervenche: try saying yes.
08:41.24patrik_debianwols: Thank you aswell. ;)
08:41.28rypervencheWyzard: Would that have caused it to not send? It was configured to "yes" before.
08:41.35Bushmillsbug report sending will probably try to send using /usr/bin/sendmail
08:41.51Wyzardrypervenche: It depends on whether your exim is configured for local delivery only, or with a smarthost
08:41.57wolsrypervenche: you have a MTA installed but probably not properly configured. that can prevent bugreports from being sent
08:42.29Bushmillsnote that it's used for outgoing mail, not for incoming mail.
08:42.29WyzardIf you say yes there, it tries to send mail via your local exim, but if your local exim doesn't know how to deliver mail to anything other than on its own machine, your bug report goes nowhere
08:42.33wolse.g. many ISPs prevent port 25 outgoing, or the recipient puts all dialup ipranges in a blocklist, etc
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08:43.05Bushmillswell, it should contact the MX of recipient
08:43.12Bushmillsnot much to set up for this
08:43.21Wyzardnot if it's configured for local delivery only
08:43.26wolsby default it is set up like this, but see above
08:43.30annahello there, i am having cracks in flash-player in chromium of wheezy. I assume it's the libc changes and something, is there a work around for it?
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08:43.39annaI couldn't find anything in google about it
08:43.42wolsWyzard: that one has to configure specially. by default it's as Bushmills says
08:44.33Wyzardhmm, I didn't think there was a default setting for that -- I've always been asked
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08:44.50WyzardAt any rate, "no" is the safe option for reportbug, because it bypasses the local MTA entirely
08:45.29wolsWyzard: when you install debian, it installs exim. there is no asking happening
08:45.36wolsif you install it yourself, then there is
08:45.41Wyzardah
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08:46.25WyzardThat explains it -- I always deselect everything in tasksel during installation, and add things later with aptitude as needed
08:47.02wolsyou cannot deselect exim4. it's base install :)
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08:47.29wolstasksel MTAs would ask, cause at that time standard debconf applies
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08:48.05simonlnuanna: "having cracks"?
08:48.10WyzardIt may be part of the "standard system" task, but I deselect that too
08:48.19WyzardI'm pretty sure I've installed Debian without exim present initially
08:48.35annasimonlnu, yes, the sound is having crack sounds all the time....
08:48.39simonlnui did it a few days ago
08:48.51simonlnuanna: ah
08:48.51Wyzardoh, I've noticed that sound problem in Flash too
08:48.56WyzardI was wondering if it was just my system
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08:49.09wolsWyzard: a MTA is necessary. no way around it and the default is exim. stuff like cron and the like must have it
08:49.12annaIt started some month ago and I read somethign about memcpy vs. memmove of flashplayer once
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08:49.33annaWhich was causing sound corruptions, now I appear to have it, and I wonder how to get rid of it
08:50.25wolsthat memcpy thing is a glibc problem. debian doesn't use that, unless the bug was introduced from the old code before the fork
08:50.51wolsconsidering how well known that bug is, even glibc based distros should have fixed it by now
08:51.16Wyzardwols: I'm not about to actually go ahead and uninstall it, but I can mark exim4 and exim4-{base,config,daemon-light} for purge in aptitude, and other than having to remove a few reverse depends like bsd-mailx, aptitude is quite willing to let me remove it
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08:53.01Wyzardwols: In fact, I have a system here with no exim4 (or any other MTA) installed
08:54.32zapadloHello everyone, whats the "correct" way to make sure you resolv.conf doesn't get overwritten by dhcp?
08:55.52Wyzardzapadlo: You can use a "supersede domain-name-servers" or "prepend domain-name-servers" line in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, but also take a look at the resolvconf package
08:55.56Bushmillszapadlo: configure your dhcp client
08:56.07simonlnuanna: alsa.opensrc.org/TroubleShooting - they cover those problems there
08:56.26simonlnu(that's the unofficial one)
08:56.42zapadloWyzard, Bushmills - thanks
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08:57.13rypervencheIs it possible to change my default editor from nano to vim? When I was doing my reportbug it had me write it out in nano. Can I change my editor globally?
08:57.29Wyzardsimonlnu: It's not a problem with *all* sound skipping, just in Flash specifically
08:57.49simonlnuno, but it might help *shrug*
08:57.49zapadlorypervenche set EDITOR=vi
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08:57.54Wyzardsimonlnu: and not even all things in Flash -- I've had the skipping problem on an ad played at the beginning of a YouTube video, but then not on the video itself
08:58.12rypervenchezapadlo: I just type that in the terminal and it will forever be vi?
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08:58.17simonlnuso it's just flash behaving like the pos it is
08:58.29simonlnurypervenche: no
08:58.33zapadlorypervenche For that user, yes.
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08:58.43annasomiaj, i don't think there is much in there about this, they cover problems with SBLive from like 10 years ago :)
08:58.50annaAnd build problems with 2.6.7
08:58.57rypervencheSo when I shutdown my computer, it will still be vim when I restart?
08:59.09Wyzardsimonlnu: Basically, but it worked fine until a week or two ago -- something must have changed in relation to a package update
08:59.26annaso nah, I think I have a problem with libc and flashplayer simonlnu
08:59.38Wyzardanna: Why do you think it's related to libc?
08:59.42zapadlorypervenche For the user you set it, yes. Also need to change it to vim, not vi as I typed.
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09:00.17Wyzardrypervenche: Just setting EDITOR=vi in a terminal won't make it persist across reboots
09:00.24wolsWyzard: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638477
09:00.32Wyzardrypervenche: You need to add it to ~/.profile or something like that
09:00.43simonlnuuh, he can't just export that in his environment, he needs to set it his shell rc files
09:00.50rypervencheWyzard: I see, so I should export it in my .bashrc or something?
09:00.53simonlnulike Wyzard said ^^
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09:01.03zapadloOh, apologise, I was wrong then
09:01.24simonlnuzapadlo: no, it'll work, but only as long as that shell is running
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09:04.38rypervencheOk, I figured it out. I just added it to my .bashrc. Thank you.
09:04.41Wyzardwols: hmm...  that points to a glibc change that happened last year relating to memcpy, but that wouldn't explain it starting just recently for me
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09:05.49wolsWyzard: as I said. btw, it could be that the fix adobe did (I think ulrich drepper as usually didn't want to fix his mess) could have broken your libc or something else if you are unlucky
09:06.10WyzardMy aptitude log doesn't show any glibc updates in the past few months
09:06.12wolsWyzard: and I just wanted to point out why anna thinks it's libc6 which is to blame
09:06.19Wyzardyeah, that makes sense
09:06.20wolsWyzard: but flash updates?
09:06.29WyzardI suspect it's something different this time, though
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09:07.08wolsflash is a buggy mess... news at 11!
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09:08.00gohdanLIES! they're not bugs! they're /features/!!
09:09.34wolsgohdan: everytime I reboot my windows box, flash as an update. why they can't put the update checks into the flash plugin and run it once per day or whatever, I don't know. but that's the typical stupidity adobe does
09:09.41zapadloWyzard resolvconf worked really well, thanks
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09:11.16xrcodeyeah i noticed that too actually
09:11.21xrcodedamn adobe
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09:17.54nvictordebian i have an issue :)
09:18.00nvictor:( i mean
09:18.15annawols, it's not libc fault, it is just that they added an optimization that now requires you to use memmove for overlapping memory regions, where previously it worked, even though the docs said it doesn't
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09:18.39Wyzardanna: That change was made last year -- I don't think it's the cause of the current problem
09:18.44annawols, in my understanding, wheezy has a libc now with this, and the closed source flashplayer doesn't do memmove, but memcpy, for sound things
09:19.05Wyzardanna: My flashplayer has been working fine until a few weeks ago, even with the newer libc
09:19.21annaWyzard, then I am without a clue.... so yours is making up too?
09:19.30nvictoris there a way
09:19.45nvictorto kill an app that is using too much memory (automatically)
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09:20.05annanvictor, you can use ulimits for memory
09:20.19fairwayI switched from Debian to MacOS X. is it a shame?
09:20.30Wyzardanna: I get a "beep" sort of sound about twice a second while it's playing audio
09:20.53annaWyzard, that is exactly it, I call it crack, but yours is better
09:20.58WyzardNot really a beep, but I can't think of a better way to describe it
09:21.00annaplus it's like an echo
09:21.28wolsnvictor: ulimit rather. and cgroups can do it too. it's a lot more powerful but a lot more complicated as well
09:22.36nvictorwols: how do i use ulimit?
09:22.57nvictoroh wait it's a command line tool
09:22.58nvictor:)
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09:23.19nvictorwols: nope, saw the manual page, thought it was
09:23.34nvictorwols: actually it's chrome i want to kill automatically
09:24.38cahootfairway, (assuming a not-trolling approach) no need to be ashamed, personally I find linux easier to configure to ones own wishes, although osx in some respects is more convenient
09:25.12wolsnvictor: ulimit has lots of docs findable via google. andit is also present on your debian: just run "ulimit". and there is limits.conf (with manpage) as well
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09:26.59nvictorwols: yes i somehow found it
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09:27.12nvictorwols: i am concerned but i will try :)
09:27.26nvictorwols: i know chrome spawn new processes for each tab
09:27.31nvictor+S
09:27.31xingunvictor: also see /etc/security/limits.{conf,d/}
09:27.42nvictorxingu: ok
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09:32.25nvictorwols: values are 1024 bytes increments means ulimit -v 256 == 256Kb virtual memory right?
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09:33.54annaWyzard, that's what we have http://penguinenclave.blogspot.com/2011/01/fedora-14-64-bit-distorted-sounds-from.html
09:34.38nvictori broke something :)
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09:35.36nvictorhttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/404866/
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09:38.28nvictorworking now, seems chrome needed more memory
09:39.35Wyzardanna: I found and fixed a bug in a different program (#588737) nearly a year ago, caused by that memcpy change
09:39.47Wyzardand the Fedora bug is from last November
09:40.01annaWell Adobe is not fast at anything
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09:40.08Wyzardneither my glibc nor my flashplugin-nonfree have been upgraded in months, but the problem just started recently
09:40.13annaClearly not at x64 only bugs for Linux
09:40.33annaAge of the bug means nothing in this case.
09:40.53WyzardI don't see how a year-old glibc change, that was known to affect Flash more than half a year ago, could be the cause of a problem that just started recently when neither of those things have been upgraded lately
09:40.58nevynWyzard: are you using 64bit?
09:41.03Wyzardnevyn: yes
09:41.22annaI am too, and I am going to try https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638477#c55
09:41.31nevyndid you test with linus's hacked libc as a ld_preload?
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09:41.43nevynwell hacked memcpy == memmove?
09:41.54nevynthis fixed it for me on debian
09:42.16Wyzardnevyn: I haven't, but it looks like anna is trying that now
09:42.22WyzardI'll be interested to know whether it works
09:42.35nevynit works for me.
09:42.40annasure, it's just funny if you follow instructions and it says close the browser
09:42.47annaand then you don't have the command :p
09:42.52nevynand it's not all flash video either.
09:43.08nevynit's only flash video with mpeg audio
09:43.26nevynwhich makes me think it's in the mpeg decoder which probably makes fixing it.. hard.
09:43.30annawell, clearly all flash games I played in recent times
09:43.46nevynAdobe possibly didn't write that code.
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09:44.29nvictor:(
09:44.44nvictorchrome crashed the machine again
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09:44.58annaYes, indeed, it helps
09:45.21wolsnvictor: how can that happen?
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09:45.38annaI just pasted the script to command line, and with a "chromium" instead of path, now it starts and plays sound nicely
09:45.39wolsOOM killer kills the process which tried to commit memory last
09:45.45annaWyzard, that's it
09:45.45nvictorwell it becomes so slow and irresponsive that i have to turn it off
09:45.49simonlnuprobably took out x, and x made the kernel panic
09:45.58wolsnvictor: use less swap
09:46.05simonlnuoh, not so drastic ;p
09:46.10nvictorwhat is a swap?
09:46.12Wyzardanna: it worked?
09:46.24annaWyzard, I am using it right now
09:46.31annaWyzard, what a relief...
09:46.43simonlnu!swap
09:46.43dpkgSwap is RAM you wish you had.  Generally it is said that for low amounts of RAM (say, less than 2GB), you should have twice the RAM as swap.  You don't have to have a swap partition either, as you can always create a <swap file> and use that.  See also <am i swapping>.  http://wiki.debian.org/Swap  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swap_space#Linux
09:46.57Wyzardanna: so if memmove is the cause, why wasn't it happening two months ago when we were using the same version of glibc, and the same version of flash, as today?  :-/
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09:50.34nvictorsounds complicated :D
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09:51.06annaWyzard, I am not so sure about the time frame
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09:51.42annaWyzard, maybe chromium got changed to use the 64 bit plugin in the mean time.
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09:52.19WyzardI don't know about Chromium -- doesn't that bundle its own version of Flash? -- but I'm using Firefox and the problem just started within the past few weeks
09:53.11BlackFateWyzard, there is a fix for that
09:53.25BlackFateWyzard, let me find it
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09:55.29BlackFateWyzard, http://www.linux.org.ru/forum/talks/5663681
09:55.34annaWyzard, well yeah, the preload is for both
09:56.01BlackFateWyzard, no need to mess with root folders. just copy libflash plugin to ~/.mozilla/plugins
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09:56.33project2501bapt-get install one-little-fight
09:56.46WyzardBlackFate: I'm not talking about installing Flash, I'm talking about an audio problem that started recently
09:56.58WyzardBlackFate: The flashplugin-nonfree package works fine for installing it
09:57.02BlackFateWyzard, this is what im talking about too
09:57.10BlackFateWyzard, it doesnt for me.
09:57.20BlackFateWyzard, im talking about the beeping sound
09:57.33annaon that page, when translated, I so some way to get at a memcpy preload trick too
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09:57.54annaBut the fedora bug tracker version is nicer, you see the source code, and know it's good
09:58.14annaBetter than a wget on an obscure location
09:58.47project2501b*yawn*
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09:59.07WyzardOh, I see, that page has a binary patch for libflashplayer.so that's presumably supposed to fix the problem
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09:59.52Wyzardbut I'm not going to download some anonymous person's code off a Russian website and run it on my computer
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10:09.03nevynWyzard: it's a binary patch..
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10:10.06llutzWyzard: couldn't be worse than running pure adobe-code :)
10:10.17WyzardThe result of which is still unauthenticated code from a random Russian website
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10:10.22WyzardI'll stick with Linus's memmove()
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10:16.43nevynyeah
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10:18.03ironmgood morning :) - has anyone got xen's HVM domU running under squeeze? I am getting some error messages (s. below more details) - when I don't use "builder = 'hvm'" in the config file it is working as expected - thank you in advance for any hints
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10:18.17ironm# --- NOT working hvm config
10:18.17ironmhvm.local.net.cfg - http://paste.debian.net/119587
10:18.17ironm# xen log files
10:18.17ironmqemu-dm-hvm.local.net.log - http://paste.debian.net/119589/
10:18.17ironmxend.log - http://paste.debian.net/119590/
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10:20.09ironmhey! .. I have used already paste.debian.net
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10:20.50ironmanyway .. I am getting an error message on the console like:
10:20.57ironmUsing config file "/etc/xen/hvm.local.net.cfg".
10:20.57ironmError: Domain 'hvm.local.net' does not exist.
10:22.06ironmWhen I use config without "builder = 'hvm'" it is working as expected - see # --- working config - http://paste.debian.net/119593/
10:22.48ironmI use the following xen packages: Installed xen 4.0.1-2 packages on debian squeeze - http://paste.debian.net/119594/
10:23.03th0rironm: if you quit using Enter and put everything in one post you won't get kicked....and the one thing you need to look at you didn't pastebin.../etc/hosts
10:24.50ironmhmm .. how do you mean that th0r ? - ".and the one thing you need to look at you didn't pastebin.../etc/hosts"
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10:25.31th0rironm: you need to look in /etc/hosts and see if hvm.local.net is defined...it sure won't show up via dns
10:26.19ironmI see .. th0r - I mean to put inside /etc/hosts yesterday .. however I will check it again
10:26.28ironmthank you th0r
10:26.42th0rironm: and stop using enter for punctuation
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10:27.43ironmth0r, what can I used instead Enter ? *_*
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10:28.12wolsironm: just skip your compulsive "enter" pressing. /msg dpkg enter
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10:29.20ironmthank you wols
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10:30.20Bartzy|workHi
10:30.38Bartzy|workAnyone using rsnapshot - How can I make rsnapshot to force permissions on the backup side ?
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10:31.08Bartzy|workCurrently it just copies the uid and gid (the the permissions) from the source of the backup, which is not good for me.
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10:38.10manchotin vsftpd. to create a directory writable for anonymous, what should be the ideal permissions?
10:38.21manchotchmod 666? 777?
10:38.28wols755
10:38.32manchotor I just chown to ftp:ftp ?
10:39.00sickguti did the hard way, made a user called anonymous with password as anonymous
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10:39.13wolsmanchot: anon uploads? why?
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10:39.36sickgutso it had write access to its own home dir etc
10:39.42manchotwols, for testing
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10:40.08manchotsickgut, create a system user and chown to anon?
10:40.36manchotwols, 755 does not seem to work "upload permission denied"
10:40.45sickgutnope i just made a user with adduser anonymous and password the same then it just works
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10:41.09manchotwols, 553 Could not create file. (in a dir with 755)
10:41.12sickgutbut thats not the official way to do it ofc but it seemed easiest for me
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10:41.52sickgutshould default tot he users home dir so user anonymous has its own dir with correct permissions etc
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10:42.08sickgutofc you need to make sure ppl know the pasword for anonymous
10:43.07ironmth0r, I have inside /etc/hosts like: 192.168.1.108   hvm.local.net ... however it looks like more like a problem with  qemu-dm-hvm.local.net.log.2 (domid: 2 ... -append only allowed with -kernel option)
10:44.03manchotsickgut, ok. Thanks.
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10:44.44ironmanyone running xen's HVM on squeeze?
10:44.45th0rironm: are you using static ip? If not that ip may no longer be valid. The error looks like a simple definition problem, but I have to admit I have no experience with qemu or kvm
10:45.11ironmth0r, what would the entry for dynamic IP ?
10:45.18ironm+ be
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10:45.43th0rironm: I think you can put a local host address like 127.0.1.1
10:45.51ironmok - merci
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10:47.20th0rironm: is that ip address for another computer on the network?
10:48.20ironmth0r,  no .. just when I start a PVM xen client with the same MAC-address
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10:48.41th0rironm: then a localhost address like 127.0.1.1 should work
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10:49.57ironmth0r, 127.0.1.1 doesn't work too
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10:50.38th0rironm: then the error might be misleading...it might actually be a vm error and not a missing host
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10:55.48ironmth0r, I guess it has something to do with qemu-dm problems
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10:56.48ironmth0r, as normal pvm domains are working
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11:11.37shad0VV_hello,is it possible to install grub v1 instead of v2 during the grub installation?
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11:13.43wolsshad0VV_: not at install time but you can do it later I guess. however there is no grub1 in squeeze anymore. so you'd need to get it frm lenny or compile it yourself. and it probably won't autocreate your menu.lst when you change kernels and so on
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11:13.54wolsshad0VV_: why do you need grub1 specificially?
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11:14.53wolsthere is grub1 still: grub-legacy
11:15.04wolsso you can install it
11:15.30shad0VV_wols: i know that ,instead i wanted to not mess with other distros
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11:16.49wolswhat do you mean "Not mess with other distros"?
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11:27.42sickgutthe world is sparse and cold, and full of fear without debian
11:27.44sickgutthats what he means
11:28.19shad0VVlol:P
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11:28.53sickgutmy heart grew cold and rotted when i used puppy linux and ubuntu for hald a day each
11:28.57sickguti nearly died inside
11:29.08sickguthalf
11:29.11shad0VVhahaha
11:29.41shad0VVi dont want to think u,during windows use:P
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11:30.43sickgutstart with the debain base iso then build onto it with jwm xorg and rox filer for the ultimate OS
11:30.56sickgutbut i like static seamonkey rather than iceape
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11:31.51mynameistuxI came here to ask a question, but when I typed out the question I realised what I'd done wrong
11:31.54thinkstevesickgut: screen and coreutils are far more epic. :P
11:31.59mynameistuxthanks for your help guys :D
11:32.21shad0VVthinksteve: +1
11:32.26shad0VVor mc
11:32.28thinkstevemynameistux: You're welcome.
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11:32.32sickguti like screen
11:32.48sickgutbut nano is the best invention since the vga montor
11:32.54sickgutoh oh oh oh
11:33.01sickgutand libcaca0 and caca-utils
11:33.29sickgutthe coloured ascii graphics lib
11:33.42sickgutcoloured animations over telnet is awesome
11:34.03sickgutand the beep program that lets you send beeps at whatever freq and length to the pc speaker
11:34.16sickgutomg i gotta stop talking dirty
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11:34.33sickgutthis is like cyber consol secs talk.
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11:39.46spectrehey all
11:39.54spectrei updated from squeeze to testing
11:40.07spectreand now, in gnome, my wireless network manager applet thing
11:40.15spectrehas a "no entry" sign
11:40.23spectreinstead of the signal meter that was there before
11:40.30cgacalling all uber geeks: does anyone know a good/cheap vps/dedicated for a debian server? I'm looking at this: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianHosting but there are far too many to look them all before asking :P
11:40.31spectreis it possible to get the signal meter back ?
11:40.46spectrei know that i am connected to a network without any security
11:40.48sickgutcga fusevps.com novps.com
11:40.53spectrei don't need to be constantly reminded
11:41.02cgaatm i have ovh RPS but it's EOL :(
11:41.08sickgutfusevps.com is $3.95 a month and they guarantee 100% uptime
11:41.19cgalurks
11:41.31sickgutnovps.com is like $50 a year for 200gb bandwidth 128mb ram 10gb hdd for a Xen setup
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11:42.11sickgutstay away from www.fsckvps.com they say they are leet and good etc but it took 6 months to cancel a plan with them
11:42.31cgathanks for advises =)
11:42.36cgagoing to lunch now
11:42.40cgatalk to you later
11:42.48sickgutnp
11:45.46abrotmanspectre: did you try a right click and disable notifications?
11:46.07spectrei didn't -- but i like the notifications (if it means the pop ups)
11:46.17spectrei just tried that now
11:46.22spectreand i still get the no entry sign
11:46.26spectrei can make a screenshot if it helps
11:46.47abrotmanit may
11:46.58spectre'sec
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11:53.29Guest53932anyone know when compiz will be fixed... or what ever the problem is with the window decorations ??
11:54.30abrotmanfixed in what?
11:55.02ham5fixed...
11:55.04ham5period
11:55.13abrotmanham5: IN WHAT?
11:55.17ham5wut
11:55.18abrotmansqueeze? sid? ubuntu?
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11:55.26ham5your mom
11:55.32ham5sid
11:55.32ham5yes
11:55.39abrotmandid you check the BTS?
11:55.46ham5no clue wtf that is
11:55.49abrotmanspectre: is there any method to configure it?
11:55.51ham5ive seen bug reports of it
11:55.52abrotman!btssmite ham5
11:55.53dpkgbeats ham5 around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if ham5 is running testing or unstable
11:55.54Internatbug tracking system.
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11:56.19ham5read reports yea so what no work arounds or timelines in that crap is ther?
11:56.29abrotmanspectre: like if you try using wicd or wifiradar, does it work?  the kernel interface perhaps changed and the apps haven't caught up yet?
11:56.47cahootcharming approach
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11:59.13spectreabrotman, one sec
11:59.20ironmhello - has anyone got xen's HVM domU running under squeeze? I am getting some error messages (s. below more details) - when I don't use "builder = 'hvm'" in the config file it is working as expected - thank you in advance for any hints
11:59.20spectrei can't find a way to configure it
11:59.22spectrei mean -- no options
11:59.40spectrei don't have wifiradar or wicd installed
11:59.42ironm# --- NOT working hvm config ... hvm.local.net.cfg - http://paste.debian.net/119587
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11:59.57ironm# xen log files ...  qemu-dm-hvm.local.net.log - http://paste.debian.net/119589/ ... xend.log - http://paste.debian.net/119590/ ... xend-debug.log - http://paste.debian.net/119591/
12:00.12spectreabrotman, wicd is another kind of network manager ?
12:00.22abrotmanyes
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12:02.14spectrei haven't tried it
12:02.16spectrebut don't want to fiddle too much
12:02.27spectrewith network manager -- the wifi on this thing is flakey enough as it is
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12:04.17abrotmanspectre: did you check for a bug filed against the network-manager-gnome package?
12:04.38spectrei tried googling
12:04.39spectrefor the problem
12:04.42spectrebut didn't come up with anything
12:04.48spectrebut perhaps my search terms weren't adequate
12:05.03spectrei tried "network manager 'no entry' 'signal meter'"
12:05.09spectrewith and without 'debian'
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12:07.09spectrehmm
12:07.15spectreit could be because when i updated
12:07.19spectreit updated some dependency
12:07.26spectrebut didn't update network manager applet itself
12:07.28spectrei'll try doing that
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12:11.17spectreabrotman,
12:11.22spectreyeah, that sorted it
12:11.24spectrethanks for your help
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12:11.48abrotmanenjoy
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12:13.01ksuhkudebian releasing squeeze with a blobless kernel made me so happy
12:13.23jemark:)
12:15.55Kamping_Kaiser*proprietary blobless :p
12:16.02Kamping_Kaiserfree blobs are ok :)
12:16.20maligorthere's no such thing as a free blob
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12:18.09Kamping_Kaiseryou mean binary lumps of bits can only appear through a secret evil process?
12:18.16Kamping_Kaiserrather then, ya know, from a compiler?
12:19.53ujjainDo both sides need rsync for rsync to work?
12:20.05wolsmaligor: blob = binary large object and if whoever made the blob released it under a permissive licenses...
12:20.41maligorwhat? like allowing it to be edited with a hex editor?
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12:21.46abrotmanujjain: is it telling you command not found?
12:22.00ujjainYes abrotman
12:22.16abrotmanujjain: then yes, install it on both sides
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12:23.30asskerwhat about use a ubuntu as server?
12:23.32wolsmaligor: note how various blobs there are marked "distributable"
12:23.56wolsassker: restate your question
12:24.06wolsabrotman: isn't it enough if the other side has a sshd?
12:24.20ksuhkuassker, and perhaps your channel as well!
12:24.26wolsmaligor:" there" being http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing
12:24.34abrotmanwols: not from what i've seen, perhaps there's another method i'm not aware of
12:24.41ujjainabrotman: it works.
12:24.48wolsmust have misunderstood something I guess
12:25.20ujjainusr/bin/rsync -a --delete --numeric-ids --relative --delete-excluded     --rsh=/usr/bin/ssh root@server:/etc /.snapshot/hourly.0/server   -----> bash: rsync: command not found
12:25.37ujjaindon't ask me why server-side requires rsync too, I find it strange.
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12:25.59ujjainalso I am a bit scared of rsync, I am afraid --delete-excluded will delete ifles on the actual remote server.
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12:27.27asskerI need to a web server, I don't know which is better  between ubuntu and debian as web server.
12:27.37abrotmanassker: we're going to tell you debian
12:27.39ujjainassker: I would go for Debian. I come from CentOS.
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12:27.59ksuhkudefine better
12:28.18asskercan u tell me the difference?
12:28.22ujjainassker: Both OS'es are good though. Debian is concentrated more on stability. Ubuntu is more modern, new features. Although you can pretty much all you install on Debian too.
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12:28.47ujjainUse Google, it's definitely a matter of preference. Even CentOS/Debian (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/62222/centos-or-debian-as-a-server-os)
12:29.08ujjainPersonally me? I would never use Fedora or Ubuntu for a server, but I must say that Ubuntu's efforts on Cloud and servers, have been good.
12:29.15abrotmancould we not do distro comparisons?
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12:29.24ujjainright.
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12:30.31asskerok, thanks.
12:30.47tandy80assker: debian is better for a server. standard is now centos at hosting companies
12:30.52abrotmancould we not do distro comparisons?
12:31.06asskerwhat about centos?
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12:31.19abrotmanassker: enough already .. you're in #debian .. our answer will be Debian ..
12:31.32abrotmanassker: if you want other opinions, try ##linux
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12:32.26ansgarOr even the *BSD crowds. There are also rumors that some people even use Microsoft Windows on servers. *scnr*
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12:35.09ujjainassker: Check out my link! Read the first response. Also, use Google and spend 30/40 min reading about the differences. There is not much sense argueing distro vs distro in #debian.
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12:36.05asskerujjain, thx.
12:36.26abrotmanujjain: could you refrain from doing that in the future ..
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12:37.04ujjainabrotman: answering his question when it should not be asked here?
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12:37.58abrotmanujjain: he's in #debian .. and you don't know his needs .. it's a silly argument, if he really needs to know, the answer is "Download them all and try them, choose the one that suits you best" .. end of discussion
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12:38.53ujjainfine.
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12:42.15ujjainHow do I remove old data from Debian? I uninstall mpt-status, but there are still plenty files. --purge something? I will promise to write it down this time.
12:42.33abrotmanfiles where?
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12:43.21ujjaine.g. /etc/init.d/mpt-statusd
12:43.28ujjainrc  mpt-status                          1.2.0-7                      get RAID status out of mpt (and other) HW RAID controllers
12:43.34penguin42hi
12:43.35Parsifalujjain: aptitude purge mpt-status
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12:43.46ujjaincan I purge all removed packages?
12:43.50ParsifalYes
12:43.53Parsifalaptitude purge ~c
12:43.53ujjainbecause I frequently removed packages without purging them afterwards.
12:43.55abrotmanujjain: aptitude purge '~c'
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12:44.12ujjainright thanks.
12:44.12Parsifal~c searches for all packages which are configured but not installed
12:44.12aptParsifal: I think you lost me on that one
12:44.26abrotmanParsifal: the 'c' means conffiles .. not 'configured'
12:44.32abrotmanIIRC
12:44.38abrotmandouble checks
12:45.04ujjainThe following packages will be REMOVED: daemon{u} mpt-status{p}
12:45.06ujjaindaemon{u} ?
12:45.08Parsifalabrotman: Yeah, just checked. The long form is ?config-files. Sorry about that.
12:45.15abrotman?config-files~c Select packages that were removed but not purged.
12:45.29ujjaindaemon{u} sounds important.
12:45.44abrotmanujjain: you're not using it currently .. how important could it be?
12:45.46penguin42I'm trying to run an upstream (non-packaged) kernel build on Squeeze (for debugging) but I'm having problems with udev not working properly - I'm not getting any of the /dev/disk-by* directories and am not getting automounting when plugging a USB stick - are there any particular patches/config options that debian's udev needs?
12:46.36ujjainlast power
12:46.41ujjainoops, irssi command.
12:46.42ujjainabrotman: tnx
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12:48.24patrik_debianabrotman: aptitude purge ~c is just great. Thank you very much.
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12:51.59ujjainYes, purging is nice, clean is nice ^^
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12:52.24ujjainI wonder why my Debian servers do not appear in PuTTY when I type ssh@hostname from my SSH-machine.
12:52.55ujjainthe title of the PuTTY title bar changes from ujjain@mysshserver to root@server02 for Centos servers, but stays for debian severs the same.
12:53.18ujjainIt's a bit hard to trace what server I am logged in, if all Debian servers have same title in the many PuTTY windows.
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13:04.33abrotmanneed question?
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13:06.43ompaulabrotman: you failed telepathy just like most of us then? ;-)
13:07.15abrotmani know you're actually sitting there grinning looking at the screen :)
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13:07.52ompaulI am now before that I was installing stuff on a box in a vps
13:09.10abrotmanthat gets a big frown! :)
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13:10.20ompaulabrotman: I have it is a debian squeeze vps
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13:10.31ompaulthat should unfrown it :)
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13:11.19ompaulabrotman: apt-get install AI-engine-for-grammar on my part :-/
13:11.26ompauldselects sleep
13:11.33abrotmaneww
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13:12.56ompaultried to get a patch for his grammar, it was suggested however that sleep was the tool that needed to be installed
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13:13.23ompaulI better sleep or I'll get to be even more wrong
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13:17.48Tichoanyone having problems mounting ntfs volumes since few days ago?
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13:20.47wolsTicho: which debian?
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13:22.56Tichoall of a sudden, mount ends silently, returns 21, which is a generic fuse error, and nothing gets logged anywhere
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13:23.34abrotmandid your kernel change?
13:23.53Tichonot recently, no
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13:24.06doublehphow do i export a raw block over network
13:24.28penguin42doublehp: iscsi, nbd or drbd are possible ways
13:24.40doublehpthanks
13:24.47Tichobut hey, i just managed to get windows booting after some grub voodoo - i'll try chkdsk on the volumes and try again in linux
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13:26.04bs0dGood day everybody. I have a question about the Xen package. I followed the steps from GNU Xen manual, but running a 64-bit Windows 7 inside a xen HVM resulted in a BSOD
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13:26.35bs0dThe error was saying that the system tried to run a 64-bit programm ( winload.exe ) on a processor which is not 64-bit compatible
13:27.01bs0dseems that I have installed a xen package compiled to emulate 32-bit code only, where can I get the 64-bit xen hypervisor?
13:27.19mynameistuxdoes resyncing a RAID array go faster if the array is unmounted?
13:27.28ansgarbs0d: xen-hypervisor-*-amd64?
13:27.40penguin42mynameistux: I don't think so, but it'll slow down if there is heavy traffic on it
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13:28.02Tichomynameistux: not necessarily - if it's mounted and there's no IO (read or write), it should go as fast as if it's unmounted
13:28.27mynameistuxalright, I'll lay off the massive copy and unrar commands then xD
13:28.35mynameistuxfaster with more RAM I assume?
13:29.00Tichono, disk access speed is the bottleneck here
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13:29.57bs0dansgar: yes, I have got it and installed. But I cannot understand why do I get this message: attempting to load a 64-bit application ( winload.exe ), however this CPU is not compatible with 64-bit mode
13:30.10mynameistuxI KNEW I shouldn't have bought 5400rpm drives
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13:30.49dclarkeQuestion about NVidia drivers. I have an nvidia Quadro GPU and VMware workstation installed. Seems to run really really well. However all the VMware virtual machine complain that 3D graphics is not avail. Should I install the NVidia commercial ddrivers ?
13:30.54mynameistuxok, if I have a RAID 5 array with a couple of 5400rpm drives and a couple of 7200rpm drives, the total speed with be limited by the 5400 right?
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13:31.09dclarkemynameistux: maybe
13:31.30wolsdclarke: what drivers do you have installed in debian right now?
13:31.32dclarkemynameistux: if the RAID5 array has 20 drives and only one of them is 5400 then no .. not necessarilly
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13:31.47dclarkewols: good question .. let me use dpkg -L to see .. one sec
13:32.02wolsglxinfo is better suited
13:32.32Tichomynameistux: but it is generally a *BAD* idea to mix disks of different type/speed in an array
13:32.51Tichomynameistux: unless it's raid0, but raid0 is a bad idea in itself :>
13:33.03dclarkewols: okay apt-file search nvidia returns the whole phone book .. I'll use glxinfo :-)
13:33.10bs0dI have the problem identical to the described in here: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Microsoft/Applications/Virtual_Server/Q_24143880.html
13:33.34dclarkewols: client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
13:33.42dclarkewols: client glx version string: 1.4
13:33.44wolsso no 3D acceleration
13:33.46dclarkewols: does that help ?
13:33.49dclarkeeek
13:34.02dclarkeokay .. I guess I have to install the actull drivers from NVidia
13:34.34wolsdclarke: your vmware vm needs vmware drivers btw, nothing by nvidia
13:34.38dclarkewols: that scares the heck out of me because squeeze is really really stable and I hate to muck with it
13:35.04wolsnouveau in squeeze doesn't do 3D
13:35.20dclarkewols: yeah .. that seems to be the case. No OpenGL bits I guess
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13:36.18dclarkewell .. to heck with it .. I decided to not mess with it .. my Virtiual machine will have no OpenGL accelleration or I have to switch to RHEL6 whiuch aint gonna happen anytime soon .. RHEL6 ssucks compared to Debian Squeeze
13:37.04wolswhat would you need opengl for?
13:37.07treebeenbs0d: looks like XEN is not really using 64-bit...
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13:37.19dclarkewols: for OpenGL based apps
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13:37.32dclarkewols: sorry for the stupid answer
13:37.42dclarkewols: CAD/CAM software like CATIA
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13:38.07IceWeweI have a RAID array with LVM and a stand-alone hard drive (no LVM or RAID) on the same machine. For some reason devicemapper has grabbed the stand-alone drive and I can't mount it.
13:38.27IceWeweHow do I get device mapper to release the drive? It doesn't have any LVM on it.
13:38.51IceWeweand I'd like to do it without rebooting, since I have several virtual machines running on the host that I'd like to avoid taking down.
13:39.40dclarkethanks all ...
13:39.43dclarkeleaves
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13:40.15bs0dtreebeen: exactly! And this is very strange
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13:42.23jelly-homeIceWewe: does lvm see the drive as a pv?  what does "dmsetup table" say?  Use a pastebin.
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13:43.18IceWewejelly-home, LVM doesn't. http://pastebin.com/Aue8knMe
13:44.16regularsorry for not too intelligent question... I'm using Debian 6 (Squeeze) with a Lenovo laptop. The system works fine until I hibernate it (or it goes into hibernation by itself, when I'm in pure command shell) - when it wakes from hibernation the monitor is dark, as if the system was working in low-energy mode
13:44.57regularis there a remedy to this (when it happens I boot the Windows 7 from bootloader, and it restores the monitor to its brightness)
13:45.19IceWeweregular, so, the monitor comes back, but the backlight is on the lowest setting?
13:45.29IceWeweregular, or you don't get a picture when it resumes?
13:45.37abrotmanregular: what is your WM/DE?
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13:46.26regularWhen I'm using a graphical environment, it's LXDE with Openbox
13:46.39regularbut at times I prefer to log into pure command shell
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13:46.50jelly-homeIceWewe: oh, you have dm-multipath installed?
13:47.21regularIceWewe: the former. I get a picture, but it's dark
13:47.39IceWewejelly-home, nope; should I?
13:47.59IceWeweregular, alright, so your backlight is just at the lowest setting. What's the video card on that laptop? Intel?
13:48.05regularNvidia
13:48.08jelly-homeIceWewe: use "multipath -ll" to list mpath device and "multipath -f blacklist that device then
13:48.14jelly-homeoops.
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13:48.43jelly-homeIceWewe: this says dm-multipath has taken the device, as far as I can read it (and I can't) 1ATA     WDC WD10EADS-65L5B1                          WD-WCAU4A861620: 0 1953525168 multipath 0 0 1 1 round-robin 0 1 1 8:96 1000
13:49.31IceWewejelly-home, that's literally what multipath -ll prints.
13:49.48IceWewejelly-home, and perhaps I don't understand the syntax of multipath -f, but it doesn't seem to work.
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13:49.55jelly-homeIceWewe: multipath -f mpathXXX
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13:50.30IceWewejelly-home, 'multipath -f dm-2' ?
13:50.40IceWewesorry, still not entirely understand the syntax.
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13:50.55jelly-homeIceWewe: No.  pastebin the output of multipath -ll, please
13:50.57regularthanks
13:51.06webad13this might sound like a wierd question :), but anyway - is it normal for the X11 to "flash" when I switch to it from tty? example: I am in tty1, openbox is in tty7 - when I swithc with alt+f7, all the windows that are drawn in x, "flash"
13:51.14Scorpion_hi need help with chown command anyone that can help
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13:51.59Scorpion_sudo chown -R sales /groups/sales -> sales is a group not a user
13:52.01webad13this just one "flash"
13:52.05ujjainCan procmail work over IMAP?
13:52.12jelly-homeScorpion_: chgrp
13:52.21IceWeweregular, sorry for the delay. Take a look at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/451282
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13:52.55abrotmanujjain: what is your imap client ?
13:52.59IceWeweregular, also take a look at this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_display_remaining_black_after_resume
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13:53.18Scorpion_hmm thx jelly how could i forget >.>
13:53.19ujjainabrotman: iPhone, Gmail, Outlook and Roundcube.
13:53.37ksuhkuIceWewe, have you tried the nomodeset kernel parameter?
13:54.02abrotmanujjain: AIUI, you run procmail on the server, or use your email client's filtering to move stuff
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13:54.17ksuhkuIceWewe, sorry, trying to reach regular
13:54.19IceWeweksuhku, I don't have the dim screen issue. I have a device-ampper issue.
13:54.25IceWeweksuhku, heh, thanks.
13:54.28ksuhku:)
13:54.31Scorpion_hmm it just ats the group to the folder but doens't make it owner
13:54.41Scorpion_adds*
13:55.24ksuhkuregular,, have you tried the nomodeset kernel parameter?
13:55.31jelly-homeScorpion_: groups and users are completely separate in unix
13:55.42regularno
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13:56.46ujjainabrotman: thanks! I will consider using procmail on the Plesk server then.
13:57.09ws2k3hello guys i'm trying to setup vsftpd but i was wandering do u guys advice to use local users or virtual users?
13:57.30Scorpion_hmm i need to make sales the owner of /groups/sales but with chgrp root is still the owner
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13:57.54kyperfHello!
13:57.58jelly-homeScorpion_: this is completely impossible in unix.  What are you trying to achieve.
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13:58.53nevynjelly-home: no it isn't
13:58.58regularanyway, thanks. I just googled that backlight bightness can be controlled with xrandr
13:59.29Scorpion_make the directory groups/sales and groups/account, make 2 groups with the names sales and account. make sure these groups are owner of there resp. directories
13:59.31nevynjelly-home: man setfacl/getfacl
13:59.43regularor through sys/devices
13:59.56Scorpion_its in ubuntu
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14:00.29jelly-homeScorpion_: why do you think the groups need to be "owners"; what do you want them to be able to do
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14:01.04Scorpion_its an exercise from school for my exam
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14:01.14jelly-homesorry, I don't do homework
14:01.36Scorpion_you don't need to do it, but i don't know the answer i've googled it
14:01.56Scorpion_just a little help..
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14:02.09ws2k3hello guys i'm trying to setup vsftpd but i was wandering do u guys advice to use local users or virtual users?
14:02.15jelly-homeScorpion_: you'll have to learn about unix permissions and figure out what the purpose of this exercise is
14:03.21nevynnot the only one who needs to learn about unix permissions in 2011
14:03.39ksuhkutrue
14:04.55jelly-homeScorpion_: but you still can't make a unix group sole "owner" of a directory; user ownership and group ownership are separate
14:04.57th0rI just googled linux permissions tutorial and the first five links look solid
14:05.07jelly-home!permissions
14:05.07dpkgFor information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions', http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html .  For further information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and follow the setuid and setgid links within.  See also <ssh permissions>, <qotd232>.  http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions
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14:10.08gpa_!ask
14:10.09dpkgIf you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
14:10.09lateniteHi folks, I get an error using "grml2usb" http://www.poeritz.de/paste/223 What did I do wrong?
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14:11.38gpa_Hi guys, i have a problem with graphic freezing in debian squeeze. It happened after I installed nvidia driver from debian
14:12.08gpa_My screen suddently freeze. it happened frequently
14:12.32ksuhku"nvidia driver from debian" ??
14:12.35kyperfgpa_: privative driver?
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14:12.55guzuhello all
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14:13.03ksuhkuhello one
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14:13.29treebeenlatenite: i think that's not exactly a debian issue, but grml...
14:13.39treebeen!grml
14:13.39dpkggrml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian.  It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators.  It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment.  http://grml.org/  #grml on irc.freenode.net.
14:14.09ksuhkulatenite, try unmounting the target 1st
14:14.29guzudebian testing, here . symbol not found: grub_divmode64_fulll, entering rescue mode, grub rescue>  attempting to reboot after updates. any easy fix?
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14:15.28gpa_kyperf: no
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14:16.06kyperfgpa_: noveau?
14:16.22lateniteksuhku, on line 36 http://www.poeritz.de/paste/224 there is a /dev/sdc2 BUT thats *not existing*....what is that?
14:16.50guzui can not join #debian-next
14:16.53gpa_no
14:16.57latenitetreebeen, its  a debian package....and grml is debian based...so I thouht it would be ok.
14:16.58gpa_nvidia-glx
14:17.19gpa_here is my Xorg.log http://pastebin.com/BchL6ePc
14:17.29jelly-homegpa_: that channel is on irc.debian.org, a different irc server
14:17.37jelly-homeguzu: that channel is on irc.debian.org, a different irc server
14:18.00guzuah :) sorry
14:18.06guzudidn't read that part
14:18.18jelly-home...
14:18.51kyperfgpa_: u dnt need all that
14:19.13gpa_kyperf: what do you mean?
14:19.14treebeenlatenite: uh, well, this channel usually only addresses debian itself. but to tell you the truth, i had some issues with the grml script myself and i had to sieve through the log to get to understand the issue. i think you'd get more help in #grml on this though
14:19.26jelly-homelatenite: ask in #grml channel for help with grml-specific scripts
14:19.44lateniteok I will... thanks guys :)
14:19.50gpa_jelly-home: what channel?
14:20.10jelly-homegpa_: sorry, ignore that line
14:20.24gpa_jelly-home : no problem
14:20.35guzujelly-home, thank you very much
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14:20.53kyperfgpa_: how do you install the driver? aptitude install nvidia-glx and nothin more?
14:20.55jelly-homelatenite: but it looks as if your CD or usb just got disconnected/dismounted
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14:21.44swilson06how do i see what executables come with a package? something in apt-cache?
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14:22.37gpa_kyperf: apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-kernel nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-xconfig xserver-xorg
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14:23.00latenitejelly-home, wow yes, you are right. It mounte it to /tmp/somekey but its not mounted. thanks
14:23.35abrotman!tell swilson06 about apt-file
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14:24.04kyperfgpa_: why u dont use module-addistant?
14:24.30jelly-homekyperf: dkms is the fancy new thing
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14:25.14swilson06abrotman: thanks. was looking in the wrong place i suppose :)
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14:25.24kyperfgpa_: as the wiki says, module-assistant is the easy and clean way to get the drivers
14:25.31gpa_kyperf: i follow the tips from here by typing /msg dpkg (nvidia / i don't remember)
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14:26.02jelly-homekyperf: dkms replaces m-a
14:26.33gpa_jelly-home: yes, dkms
14:27.17kyperfjelly-home: ahm...my old mind...xD
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14:28.21kyperfgpa_: can you put your xorg.conf?
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14:29.04gpa_kyperf: wait a sec
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14:30.03jelly-homegpa_: I guess you _could_ try using a newer nvidia-kernel-dkms
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14:30.11jelly-home,versions nvidia-kernel-dkms
14:30.11juddPackage nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6; sid/non-free: 270.41.19-1; wheezy/non-free: 270.41.19-1; experimental/non-free: 275.09.04-1
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14:31.02gpa_kyperf: http://pastebin.com/gdiDfCmW
14:31.47jelly-homeor not, that's an old card
14:32.05gpa_yes, it's very old
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14:33.19gpa_but, i got no problem when installed it in backtrack4.
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14:33.40gpa_even when using nvidia driver from nvidia.com
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14:34.46gpa_judd: is it safe to use from experimental package?
14:35.30kyperfversions nvidia-kernel-dkms
14:35.51gpa_195.36.31-6
14:36.00gpa_as judd said above
14:36.20gpa_i use debian squeeze
14:37.20kyperfI use the same driver...and I dont have that problem
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14:38.42gpa_my screen suddently freeze after i try to play video file, browsing, and no more from 1 hour
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14:39.44gpa_but, if i don't run kdm, it didn't happend
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14:41.15gpa_i can only  use shell terminal without X
14:41.25treebeengpa_: how about gdm?
14:41.46gpa_treebeen: never try that before
14:42.05treebeengpa_: you can't switch to the console from X?
14:42.47gpa_treebeen: no, i can't
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14:43.06gpa_treebeen : everything is freeze
14:43.24gpa_my keyboard or mouse did't responded
14:43.54treebeengpa_: that's probably so called KMS, see here http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting
14:44.05treebeen"Disabling KMS"
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14:45.07abrotmani just keep reading it as 'tresbien' .. no idea why
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14:46.03jelly-homebean tree.
14:46.30homieand honey
14:48.38gpa_treebeen: i already did that by typing blacklist nouveau options nouveau modeset=0 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf
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14:57.40EM03quick question .....I'm trying to compile somehting and it can't find my .h file ....how can I link it ?
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15:04.13adminewbwols, thanks for wireless help, I have a live connection finally. Part of the trouble was missing firmware, partly was getting interference from other strong signals nearby. Had to shift it to another USB port for a connection, though my net read 100% on the scale either way.
15:04.15adminewbThe whole process was complicated terribly by inability to install packages from a network, except by booting another OS and using web access to the repos. i.e. no aptitude etc. to handle dependencies. Much obliged.
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15:08.59treebeengpa_: you might also try nomodeset as kernel parameter
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15:19.23EM03unix question
15:19.33EM03how can I get the current dir I'm in from command line
15:19.36EM03absolute path
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15:20.46thaw_hi all
15:21.06abrotmanEM03: pwd
15:21.14EM03yep just found it
15:21.14EM03thanks
15:22.22thaw_i've set the option "umask=0022" in a line of my /etc/fstab; and when I mount the disk directories has the good rights (rwxr-xr-x), however files haven't rw-r--r-- but rwxr-xr-x .. why ?
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15:23.09penguin42thaw: I think because the 'w' is the 2
15:23.33penguin42thaw: So you leave all the options for the owner, and then the first two masks the w out for group and the 2nd two masks the w out for other
15:23.58penguin42if you wanted rw-r--r-- I think that would be 0133 ?
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15:24.34jelly-hometypically 022
15:24.37thaw_penguin42, umask has different behavior for files and directories, by default you've an umask of 022
15:24.44thaw_and if you do "touch bla && ls -al bla"
15:25.02thaw_you'll see that your file bla has rights rw-r--r--
15:25.35thaw_I just want this same behavior with the umask of /etc/fstab
15:25.39jelly-homethaw_: your issue is you're using a silly filesystem type like vfat or ntfs, which behave differently and have different mount options
15:25.48thaw_:p
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15:26.11thaw_jelly-home, right, that's ntfs :D
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15:28.07thaw_jelly-home, and you know this mount option :p ?
15:28.27antivirtelhi! Can someone help me in that question: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14841/fail2ban-block-with-iptables-doesnt-work-on-debian-lenny ?
15:29.22jelly-homethaw_: none that I can verify at the moment, I have no ntfs nearby
15:29.55thaw_ok, thx
15:30.23jelly-homethaw_: also I don't use kernel ntfs support, but ntfs-3g
15:30.57jelly-home(which has fmask= and dmask=)
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15:33.04thaw_oh yeah, thx jelly-home I've switched to ntfs-3g with these options and it works
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15:44.33Coded1hello all
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15:46.36Coded1I'm running squeeze right now and need to update to the latest VLC (current version in squeeze repos is 1.1.3 and #videolan recommends VLC 1.1.10)  I updated the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list and did an update and upgrade but vlc is still the old one ... any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
15:48.05gpa_purge then install new one
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15:48.11ws2k3can i use virtual users without the PAM module or do i need it of i wish to set virtual users?
15:48.36jelly-homews2k3: that question is WAY too vague
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15:48.46Coded1gpa_: purge?  aka "apt-get remove vlc --purge" ?
15:49.03gpa_apt-get purge vlc
15:49.11jelly-homeCoded1: which repos have you added?
15:49.27ws2k3how u mean exacly
15:49.37ws2k3i just wish to add virtual users to svftpd
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15:49.55ws2k3but i have found a guide but they use the PAM module
15:50.07Coded1jelly-home: from this page http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
15:50.19ws2k3so i was wandering is it requesred to use the PPAM module for virtual users
15:50.30Coded1jelly-home: the unstable sid sources
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15:51.18jelly-homeCoded1: ok, you've added the upstream vlc repositories?  Pastebin the output of apt-cache policy vlc
15:51.20ansgarws2k3: Well, such questions should be answered in the documentation (which is IMHO usually better than random guides).
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15:52.04jelly-homeCoded1: also output of "apt-cache policy"
15:52.35Coded1http://pastebin.com/YiNxRSbY
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15:53.14jelly-homeCoded1: now notice the upstream repo is HORRIBLY outdated
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15:53.22Coded1http://pastebin.com/t7DT2Afp  --- apt-cache policy
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15:54.14Coded1jelly-home: how can I fix it ?
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15:54.27EM03how can I search a folder for a file extension?
15:54.36jelly-homeCoded1: dunno, ask them to put a newer vlc binary in there?
15:54.53nevynEM03: find folder -name \*.extension
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15:55.35Defusalhi everyone, does anyone know of the simplest socks proxy server that can be installed and minimally configured, which works just about out of the box?
15:55.36jelly-homeCoded1: theoretically you can try building a local backport of vlc, but I'm not sure that's going to work.  Ask the bot about the procedure: /msg dpkg ssb
15:55.47jelly-home,versions vlc
15:55.48juddPackage vlc on i386 -- lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2; lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny3; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze2; squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; wheezy: 1.1.9-1+b1; sid: 1.1.10-1
15:55.49EM03any way I can do it with grep nevyn ?
15:56.26nevynEM03: do you want to search subdirectories?
15:56.31Coded1jelly-home: the version that I pasted is from the debian mirror it doesn't seem to recognize the repo I added from the videolan repo
15:56.35EM03yes nevyn
15:56.39somiajEM03: find /path/to/dir | grep "jpg$" will search all subdirectories
15:56.45nevynEM03: why would you use grep for something find is designed to do?
15:56.52EM03sure your right
15:56.55EM03it worked thanks
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15:57.15jelly-homeCoded1: your paste says http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/ sid/main has version "0.7.0-1", which I dubbed horribly old
15:57.29somiajEM03: man find for other options, but that should work.
15:57.50Coded1http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
15:58.06jelly-homeCoded1: you pasted that already.\
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15:59.10jelly-homeCoded1: ask the VLC people themselves about why that repo is out of date
15:59.28Coded1ya thats brutal
15:59.30Coded1sorry
15:59.33jelly-homeCoded1: esp. if it was them that pointed you to it
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16:00.49jelly-homeCoded1: the "nightlies" seem to be similarly outdated
16:01.01jelly-homeonly 2009 instead of 2004
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16:02.57ws2k3i think i'm going to setup vsftpd with a mysql database. but i was wondering maby we are going to setup multiple server with vsftpd. is it wise so set all users of all ftp server in one single database?
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16:03.27jelly-homews2k3: where would you put them if not a single database of some sort?
16:03.43ws2k3a database on eatch server
16:03.48ws2k3and not mysql
16:03.52ws2k3just local
16:03.56jordanmLDAP would probably be a better solution if you want the same creds for multiple hosts
16:03.58ws2k3not local users but a local database
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16:04.29ws2k3well its not requered that they can logon on multie servers
16:04.46ws2k3but i was thinking if i put it in my sql database its more centralized
16:04.48ws2k3and orginazed
16:04.56ws2k3then 4 of 5 different database on all servers
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16:06.03Bac9after an upgrade a couple of days ago (testing), konqueror stopped being able to load HTTP pages, originally konqueror was still open during upgrade and stopped loading pages right after, so this is definitly something that's reloaded during runtime, it shows the "Unexpected Program Termination" page for any attempt to go to HTTP, how can I fix this?
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16:06.45jordanmBac9: report the bug and wait for it to be fixed
16:07.19jordanmassuming it is not already reported
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16:10.10Bac9jordanm: same bug was reported in 2010, or at least same symptoms, there was no response
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16:10.31Bac9jordanm: the bug is the first thing google brings up (google still works in other browsers)
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16:13.49jelly-homeBac9: have you tried logging off, verifying all the kde processes are gone, and logging back on again?
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16:14.27Bac9jelly-home: since I am not using kde, what processes should I kill? no I've not tried logging off
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16:14.57jelly-homeBac9: do it then.  KDE doesn't deal well with live upgrades.
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16:15.29jelly-homeBac9: you can try running kdeinit4_shutdown manually but it doesn't always work
16:15.42jelly-homeBac9: and you _are_ using parts of kde.
16:16.15Bac9jelly-home: the only 'user/bin/k*' processes running are knotify4 and kuiserver, I can try killing those
16:16.24nevynumm
16:16.38Bac9jelly-home: I am only using the parts of kde that knoqueror drags in
16:16.56jelly-homeBac9: that's enough
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16:17.19jelly-homelog out, see all your k* processes are gone, log bakc in
16:17.31Bac9jelly-home: yes, unfortunatly, kde is such a monolith
16:17.37jelly-homeif unsure, just kill all your user processes
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16:18.13nevynBac9: kio_http
16:18.23Bac9jelly-home: I just 'kill -9'ed then
16:18.23nevynis a likely culprit
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16:18.29jelly-homeCoded1: /msg dpkg ssb
16:18.32Bac9nevyn: what about kio_http?
16:18.45Bac9nevyn: what can I do about it?
16:18.49jelly-homekill those as well
16:18.51nevynshutdown konq
16:18.54nevynkill them all
16:18.56nevynstart konq
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16:18.58Bac9nevyn: tried that
16:19.01jelly-homelet init sort them out
16:19.16Bac9nevyn: still same problem
16:19.27jordanmBac9: pkill -u $(id -un)   should kill all your procs
16:19.40jelly-homeor kill -9 -1 (as user :-)
16:19.41nevynjordanm: he doesn't want to logoff.
16:19.48jelly-homenevyn: he's silly!
16:20.07nevynjelly-home: meh. the heart wants what the heart wants.
16:20.38Bac9nevyn: when I restarted konqueror same issue, only now there are 7 new kdeinit4 processes
16:20.42jelly-homesince this issue could have been solved 10 minutes ago, I'm going to stop providing further suggestions
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16:21.23Bac9jelly-home: contrary to Microsoft product, Linux issues are rarely if ever resolved with a restart
16:21.34jelly-homeyou keep telling yourself that
16:21.41Bac9jelly-home: experience
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16:22.13jelly-homeBac9: experience is what you seem to be lacking WRT kde and upgrades
16:22.32Bac9nevyn: any other ideas? I already tried downgrading konqueror to stable, I can try downgrading to old-stable but I doubt that will resolve the issue
16:22.40sickgutkde aside there are lots of things that are fixed by linux reboots
16:22.49Bac9sickgut: such as?
16:23.01sickgutthings with xorg
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16:23.37sickgutthings with blackbanned drivers you wanna renable etc
16:23.49Bac9sickgut: oh no, xorg requires a downgrade to be fixed.... I make sure to hold mine at a version I know works as xorg versions tend to break
16:23.50jordanmafter a libc6 upgrade, its the only way to ensure the new libc is bein used by all procs
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16:24.07jordanmsame with other libs
16:24.26Bac9jordanm: luckily Linux doesn't care which libc version is used by which process, this is not Microsoft Windows
16:24.33jelly-homehowever, libc6 doesn't have the sort of horrible ABI incompatibilites that kde libs do between releases
16:25.01jelly-homes/releases/builds/
16:25.03Bac9jelly-home: tell me what to downgrade and hold and I'll try that....
16:25.15sickgutoften ive had to reboot in various stages of apt-getting and setting up all the stuff i want when i start with a debian base iso and wanna add everything manually
16:25.24Bac9jelly-home: I have no issues with holding an old version as long as it works
16:25.35sickgutsure there is probably 100 techy ways to sove stuff
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16:25.36jelly-homeBac9: have you tried logging off, verifying all the kde processes are gone, and logging back on again?
16:25.41sickgutor you can just reboot
16:25.54Bac9sickgut: in 10+ years running Devian as my main system I never had to reboot for an upgrade
16:26.14sickgutbac9 your prbably either delusional or an idiot
16:26.18jordanmBac9: 2 reboots were required for lenny -> squeeze
16:26.19Bac9jelly-home: no, I just 'kill -9'ed all the kde processes I cold find, only 2
16:26.31jelly-homeBac9: I suggest trying that then.
16:26.46Bac9jordanm: didn't need any reboots, I've been upgrading inplace since ham
16:26.53jelly-homeBac9: if you don't know which processes are kde's, nuke all of that users'
16:26.59jordanmare you still on the ham kernel?>
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16:27.12jordanmand the old udev...
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16:27.19Bac9jelly-home: kde's processes usually start with a k, so it's a safe bet to kill anything starting with a k
16:27.20xingujordanm: not if he's on a squeeze libc he isn't
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16:27.39jelly-homeBac9: there are some that don't start with k
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16:27.57Bac9jordanm: a kernel upgrade is not a system upgrade and FYI kernel 2.0 did not have udev, neither did kernel 2.2
16:28.10jelly-homejelly     4349  0.0  0.0  28020  2504 ?        S    10:47   0:00 dcops
16:28.21tomfmasonI have an ancient system with an old key that is blacklisted by ssh-vulnkey after an update. I have no other way of logging into another server without that key. Is there anyway I can force it to use it so I can update the key on the other server?
16:28.25Bac9jelly-home: oh? I guess I must have a closer look at my processes... thank you
16:28.31jelly-homeBac9: I
16:28.42jelly-home'm ignoring you for an hour for the sake of my sanity
16:28.48Bac9jelly-home: this is one place grep isn't helpful in :-)
16:29.24ws2k3when i run: htpasswd -c /etc/vsftpd/passwd pearlin i get cannot create file. does somebody understand why?
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16:31.03daemonkeeperws2k3: Do you run this command with appropriate write permissions?
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16:31.16ws2k3i'm running it as root
16:31.22ws2k3so i assume yes
16:31.41daemonkeeperCan you touch /etc/vsftpd/passwd?
16:31.56ws2k3yes
16:31.59jmdHow can I remove a package which isn't installed?
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16:32.11jmddpkg --force-depends doesn't work.
16:32.12dpkgjmd: I give up, what is it?
16:32.18jmdkghostview
16:32.22Wyzardjmd: That doesn't  make sense
16:32.37ws2k3i already was going to say that
16:32.41jmdWyzard, Many things in this world don't make sense.
16:32.56jelly-homejmd: what issue are you actually tying to solve?
16:32.57ws2k3like u
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16:33.13jmdjelly-home, I'm trying to remove a package.
16:33.29jelly-homejmd: what's its current status? dpkg -l packagename|tail -1
16:33.31cahootjmd, trie apt-get install -f ?
16:33.31ws2k3daemonkeeper i still cant htpasswd the file
16:33.46daemonkeeperws2k3: Even if the file already exists, since you used touch?
16:34.12ws2k3yeah the file exsist
16:34.13ws2k3yeah the file exsists
16:34.23Wyzardjmd: You can't remove a package that isn't installed, because there's nothing to remove
16:34.28jmdjelly-home, No packages found matching kghostview.
16:34.39Wyzardjmd: You can purge a package that's in the removed state
16:34.40jmdWyzard, Unfortunately there is.
16:34.45jelly-homejmd: that said, why are you trying to remove it?
16:34.46daemonkeeperjmd: But conffiles, to be precise.
16:34.49ws2k3when i run :  htpasswd /etc/vsftpd/passwd pearlin i get cannot modifile file  use -c to create it
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16:35.05jmdjelly-home, Because I don't like it.  It's annoying.
16:35.12jelly-homejmd: what is annoying?
16:35.23daemonkeeperws2k3: What permissions do you have in /etc/vsftpd/?
16:35.29ws2k3755
16:35.30jmdIt's slow, and makes things crash.
16:35.37jmdand I need the disk space.
16:35.44ws2k3now it works. reaky strange
16:36.01ws2k3i removed the file runned touch again and then the htpasswd command again
16:36.07Wyzardjmd: You're saying that you have a package that is not installed, but takes up space anyway?
16:36.17jelly-homejmd: the app isn't managed in the package system.  You'll have to remove it manually.
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16:36.24jmdIt would seem so.  Yes.
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16:36.43dpkgdrinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up also doesn't work. all over jmd and mentor...
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16:36.48jhutchins_ltjmd: Is there some reason for not following the instructions in the error messages?
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16:36.58jelly-homejmd: what does which kghostview say?
16:37.02mentormmmmhm
16:37.08Bac9jelly-home: darn, killed too many processes, some dependency took out xchat and firefox too, on the up hand konqueror is now just plain crashing and not starting up
16:37.09jmd/usr/bin/kghostview
16:37.22jelly-homementor: better wipe that
16:37.26jhutchins_ltws2k3:  Is there some reason for not following the instructions in the error messages?
16:37.37Wyzardjmd: How about "dpkg -S /usr/bin/kghostview"?
16:37.57jelly-homejmd: also, readlink -f /usr/bin/kghostview
16:38.15jmddpkg: /usr/bin/kghostview not found.
16:38.15dpkgjmd: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ?
16:38.34jmddpkg, no
16:38.34dpkgNo Offense, or den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users.
16:38.42jelly-home,file bin/kghostview
16:38.45juddNo packages were found with that file.
16:38.48daemonkeeperjmd: You're aware, dpkg is a bot? :)
16:38.53assemmy nautilus gvfs (i presume?) sftp mounts are supposed to show up in ~/.gvfs right?  i would like a way to access these files remotely via command line; any help appreciated!
16:38.55Wyzardjmd: Then it's not part of any package that dpkg can remove; it must've been installed manually or something
16:39.06jhutchins_ltdaemonkeeper: Aw, don't spoil the fun.
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16:39.12jelly-homejmd: pastebin the output of ldd /usr/bin/kghostview
16:39.17jmdWyzard, Or something?
16:39.53Wyzardjmd: I don't know how that file got on your system so my statement is open-ended; my point is that dpkg didn't put it there, so dpkg has no metadata for cleanly removing it
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16:40.47jmdWyzard, Then whats the /var/lib/dpkg/kghostview.* files for?
16:40.48tomfmasonanyone have any idea if it is possible to temporarily force the use of an old key blacklisted by ssh-vulnkey
16:40.56Bac9jelly-home: ok, konqueror is back up, but still no HTTP
16:41.16jmdjelly-home, http://pastebin.com/Jj1M7nQ1
16:41.37jelly-homejmd: wow. which debian release is this?
16:41.50jmd6.0
16:42.12Wyzardjmd: hmm, if those exist then apparently dpkg did put it there, so why are the files there if dpkg thinks it isn't installed?
16:42.27jelly-homejmd: dpkg -S $(readlink -f /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3)
16:42.34daemonkeepertomfmason: Probably not, but you could remove said key from /usr/share/ssh/blacklist.*
16:42.38Wyzardjmd: Is there an entry for kghostview in /var/lib/dpkg/status (it's a text file)?
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16:43.03jmdNo
16:43.19jelly-homejmd: if there are files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kghostview.* but dpkg says it's not installed, that means your status file's been corrupted
16:43.30Wyzardthen your package database has gotten into an inconsistent state somehow
16:43.38robbleszCan anyone recommend a method to log file permission violations? For example, I want to log when the php5-cgi process on my server attempts to write a file to /var/www/restricted and fails
16:43.42jmdjelly-home, libqt3-mt: /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
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16:43.51WyzardYou can probably resolve this particular problem by just installing kghostview (which will overwrite the existing files) and then removing it
16:43.51jelly-home,versions libqt3-mt
16:43.52juddPackage libqt3-mt on i386 -- lenny: 3:3.3.8b-5+b1; squeeze: 3:3.3.8b-7+b1; sid: 3:3.3.8b-8; wheezy: 3:3.3.8b-8
16:44.01Wyzardbut the fact that you're in this situation may be evidence of a deeper problem
16:44.12jelly-home,versions kghostview
16:44.13juddPackage kghostview on i386 -- lenny: 4:3.5.9-3+lenny3; lenny-security: 4:3.5.9-3+lenny3
16:44.20jelly-homeWyzard: too old
16:44.27jmdWyzard, I'll try that.
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16:45.04jmdPackage kghostview is not available, but is referred to by another package.
16:45.06jelly-homejmd: at this point I'd just wipe the files listed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kghostview.list manually
16:45.32Wyzardrun the prerm/postrm scripts too
16:45.40jelly-homenah
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16:45.55jmdWyzard, How can I?  They'll have been deleted.
16:46.15WyzardHow can you what, run the scripts?
16:46.31WyzardSee if you have /var/lib/dpkg/info/kghostview.prerm or /var/lib/dpkg/info/kghostview.postrm
16:46.45WyzardIf they exist, run them with "remove" as argument
16:47.21WyzardThen delete the files listed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kghostview.list like jelly-home said
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16:48.11Wyzardand if there's a /var/lib/dpkg/info/kghostview-data.list, remove the files listed there too
16:48.49jmdOK.  Thanks.
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16:50.01Wyzardjmd: In the future it would be good to explain the situation clearly from the beginning -- when you just say you want to remove a package that isn't installed, and offer no additional details, people think you don't know what you're talking about
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16:50.14WyzardWe shouldn't have to extract the details out of you with lots of questions
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16:50.35jmdWyzard, Well if I knew what I was talking about, I wouldn't have to ask.
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16:51.13bs0dGood day guys. Is it 100% sure that 64-bit debian distro installs a 64-bit xen kernel? People on #xen tell that there must be a 32-bit xen kernel installed with 64-bit package, because when I run a 64-bit guest OS, it sees the cpu architecture as i686. not x86_64
16:51.30Bac9jelly-home: this is weird, all of a sudden konqueror started working again, by all of a sudden I mean I was in a different workspace trying chromium, galeon and kazehakase, then went to konqueror to get a bookmark address and the page loaded.... the mysteries of kde.... oh well, as long as it works, thank you (no reboot required)
16:51.31WyzardYou knew that there were files in /var/lib/dpkg that indicate the package was installed by dpkg
16:51.31bs0dI want to get the real reason of such xen behaviour
16:52.39jmdI just tried "apt-get remove kghostscript" and got "Package kghostscript is not installed".  Then I tried --force-all.  Then I asked here.
16:52.47Bac9jelly-home, nevyn: thak you for trying to help
16:53.10Wyzardbs0d: My amd64 Xen system says "x86_64", not "i686"
16:53.22ws2k3when i restart my vsftpd it says server started but when i run vsftpd status it says server not running
16:53.31daemonkeeperbs0d: Debian (as does Xen) support both, native x86 and AMD64 mode. You talk about x86 domU support on a AMD64 host.
16:53.32jelly-homews2k3: "check the logs"
16:53.41jelly-homews2k3: "check the process list"
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16:54.23bs0ddaemonkeeper: yes, exactly. But I need AMD64 domU support on an AMD64 host. Is such combination possible?
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16:54.34bs0dWyzard: Sorry for asking, which CPU have you got?
16:54.38Wyzardbs0d: yes, my IRC packets are routing through such a machine right now
16:54.56ws2k3it dont exsist in the proces list
16:55.08WyzardIf you're seeing "i686" as your architecture, it sounds like you're running 32-bit Debian
16:55.12ws2k3which log should i check does vsftpd has it own logfile?
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16:56.29bs0dWyzard: uname -a says Linux orange 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Thu May 19 01:16:47 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
16:56.45jelly-homews2k3: no idea, look up in the package contents to see if there's a separate log directory
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16:56.54Wyzardbs0d: Is that dom0, or domU?
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16:57.11WyzardI'm guessing dom0 since it's a -xen kernel
16:57.19bs0dWyzard: dom0, the macine I am writing from
16:57.23iugrinahow can I see all the packages I have installed on the system + are they from main/contrib/non-free ?
16:57.51Wyzardbs0d: so your dom0 is 64-bit...  but a 32-bit domU will still see it as i686
16:58.14bs0dWyzard: I tried to boot 64-bit Debian distro in DomU and got an error: his kernel requires an x86_64 CPU, but only detected i686 CPU
16:58.37bs0dWyzard: I need 64-bit domU :(
16:59.39Wyzardbs0d: hmm, look for your xen file in /boot...  is it xen-4.0-amd64.gz, or some other name?
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17:00.28bs0dWyzard: yes, it is xen-4.0-amd64.gz
17:00.40ws2k3jelly how should i do that?
17:01.15Wyzardbs0d: So you're running a 64-bit hypervisor (which is what actually matters, not the dom0 kernel)
17:01.31Wyzardbs0d: That should work, and I didn't have any problems setting up my 64-bit (Debian) guests
17:02.02bs0dWyzard: yes, my dom0 kernel name is vmlinuz-2.6.32.5-xen-amd64
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17:02.57bs0dWyzard: I read Denian Xen manual now, it sais that a 64-bit Etch dom0 can run 64-bit domU, but no word about squeeze
17:03.16WyzardThey certainly haven't removed the feature
17:03.25WyzardLike I said, my router is a 64-bit Debian domU
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17:03.29jelly-homews2k3: dpkg -L packagename lists the package contents
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17:05.44bs0dWyzard: What cpu have you got?
17:05.51WyzardCore 2 Duo
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17:08.22bs0dWyzard: Ive got Core 2 Quad, Q6600 ... first I thought maybe its the CPU problem
17:08.42bs0dWyzard: This is very very odd that gueses see i686 architecture
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17:09.00WyzardWhat configuration are you using for booting the guest?
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17:10.56bs0dWyzard: let me pastebin it
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17:12.30bs0dWyzard: http://www.everfall.com/paste/id.php?c2zysqkqd5ly
17:12.53bs0dWyzard: pasted configuration file here: http://www.everfall.com/paste/id.php?c2zysqkqd5ly
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17:13.09Wyzardbs0d: Is this a Linux guest?
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17:13.31bs0dWyzard: yes, this is domU machine, where I tried to run 64-bit Debian installer
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17:14.14Wyzardbs0d: You're booting it using HVM, which works differently and basically emulates a whole machine -- there's probably some additional option you'd need to specify to tell it to emulate a 64-bit machine
17:14.26Wyzardbs0d: but you don't need that for a guest running a recent Linux kernel
17:15.15bs0dWyzard: It was previously the Windows machine, I got same error trying to run 64-bit Windows 7
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17:15.18WyzardLinux guests running under Xen use paravirtualization, which is actually Xen's primary mode of usage (HVM was added later)
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17:16.05WyzardRight, because your HVM configuration is (presumably) simulating a 32-bit machine
17:16.16WyzardI don't know much about Xen HVM so I don't know what you'd need to change in the config to fix that
17:16.39WyzardDon't use HVM at all if your guest will be running Linux
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17:18.02petemcbs0d: there may be an option in your bios to enable hardware virtualization
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17:18.42Wyzardbs0d: Here's the config I use for one of my Debian guests:  http://paste.debian.net/119619/
17:19.21WyzardDebian actually provides a config for running the Debian installer under Xen, though the file's a little hard to find
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17:21.13Wyzardbs0d: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/
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17:21.39WyzardThat xm-debian.cfg will run the Debian installer in a paravirtualized domU
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17:22.34WyzardYou'll want to edit the upper part to specify your disk devices, etc.
17:22.41Wyzardand once you've installed, you can trim it down to look like mine
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17:27.36thepro4everwhat library is the sockets api in on debian?
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17:31.54bs0dWyzard: could you pls paste the output of commands cat /proc/cpuinfo and xm info?
17:33.21bs0dWyzard: xen_caps               : xen-3.0-x86_64 xen-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_32 hvm-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_64   it's capable of running in 64-bit mode, for sure
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17:34.09Wyzardbs0d: http://paste.debian.net/119622/ and http://paste.debian.net/119623/
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17:34.18bs0dWyzard: thank you
17:35.54WyzardAre you trying to figure out how to do 64-bit HVM?
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17:36.56penguin42bs0d: Depending on the CPU and BIOS a cpu that can run 64bit native OS may not want to do it as a hypervised guest
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17:39.01Wyzardpenguin42: Why not?
17:39.01bs0dpenguin42: I have Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU. I even cannot bugtrack it, because it's not on oficial supported HW list :(
17:39.37Wyzardbs0d: You're making things unnecessarily difficult for yourself if you use HVM to run a Linux guest
17:39.47penguin42Wyzard: To run a 64 bit non-paravirtualised guest you need something capable of running the VT extensions (or the AMD equivalents) and that's got to be on the CPU and enabled by the BIOS
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17:40.19WyzardOh, you meant "might not be willing to"
17:40.31Wyzard"may not want to" sounds like you're saying there's a reason why one shouldn't do it
17:40.37bs0dWyzard: I created this guest for windows, I tried to install debian to see if the problem with 64-bit OS persists
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17:40.43Wyzardah, ok
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17:41.04WyzardConsider using KVM for running a Windows guest, btw
17:41.06penguin42bs0d: OK, so http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=29765 says the Q6600 has VT, you've checked it's enabled in the BIOS?
17:41.31WyzardHVM support is sort of a second-class feature in Xen, since it's really meant for paravirtualization, but it's KVM's main mode of operation
17:41.40penguin42admits I am getting a little confused here with VMWare that has those rules - I'm not sure if the rules are the same for Xen - but it will need VT and VT enabled for a 64bit guest
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17:42.00Wyzardpenguin42: I don't think it's a problem with VT being disabled in the BIOS, though, because he can boot a 32-bit VT guest
17:42.01jelly-homemodel name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz # no "vmx" in flags
17:42.07bs0dyes, its enabled. Pls take a look at my cpuinfo output ( http://www.everfall.com/paste/id.php?bqi3940z21oa ) and xm info output ( http://www.everfall.com/paste/id.php?lkjkd2hxq5de ), maybe this helps to find the reason for my problem
17:42.24penguin42Wyzard: OK, that's a fair comment
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17:43.05jelly-homelied, there's actually vmx in flags
17:43.13Wyzardjelly-home: I think Xen hides that flag from guests
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17:48.31aguiteli have this device ,how install it? Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1737:0077 Linksys WUSB54GC v3 802.11g Adapter [Ralink RT2070L]
17:49.18jelly-home!ops please kick debhelper's arse or raise the channel limit manually
17:49.18dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly-home complains about: please kick debhelper's arse or raise the channel limit manually
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17:55.11thepro4everhow do i access the man pages for my gcc?
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17:56.35bs0dWyzard: could you reproduce the thing I am going here on your pc? Take my config, and run xen on it, there is even no need for a hard drive, only cd with debian 64-bit distro or some other one 64-bit OS. Im very interested if you will get same error as I do
17:56.36jhutchins_ltthepro4ever: aptitude search gcc
17:56.49jhutchins_ltthepro4ever: | grep doc
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17:57.00jmdthepro4ever, Normally "man gcc"  But man pages are deprecated in GNU software.  Use "info gcc" instead.
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17:57.43jhutchins_ltjmd: The docs are seperate packages.
17:58.03jelly-home!info gcc-doc
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17:58.27dpkggcc-doc: (documentation for the GNU compilers (gcc, gobjc, g++)), section contrib/doc, is optional. Version: 5:3 (sid), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 16 kB
17:58.47jelly-homethepro4ever: you'll have to add "contrib" part of the repository to install that
17:58.50jelly-home!contrib
17:58.51dpkg[contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free).  To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ [lenny|squeeze|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then aptitude update.  Also ask me about <non-free>.
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17:58.52stewand non-free
17:59.07bs0dWyzard: The point is, that we have similar CPUs, pls don't concider my request be too annoying, if you have possibility/wish, then it would be nice of you take my config and try run it on your xen
17:59.14jelly-homeoh, right
17:59.16stewits a metapackage in contrib that depends on the gcc-$version-doc pacakges in  non-free
18:00.17Wyzardbs0d: Do you know if I'll need the full qemu-system package (which has a bunch of dependencies) or just the qemu package?
18:00.28Wyzardbs0d: qemu-dm-4.0 depends on either of them
18:00.33aguiteli have this device ,how install it? Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1737:0077 Linksys WUSB54GC v3 802.11g Adapter [Ralink RT2070L]
18:00.54bs0dWyzard: just the xen-qemu-dm-4.0
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18:01.09Wyzardoh, nevermind, qemu is a metapackage that depends on qemu-system
18:01.09jhutchins_lt,pciid 1737:0077
18:01.11judd[1737:0077] is 'Unknown device' from 'Linksys' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1737:0077
18:01.29wolsjhutchins_lt: "wusb"
18:01.30thepro4ever!info-gcc
18:01.33sunscreenwhere do i file a bug for debian ltsp is a broken package
18:01.35bs0dWyzard: yes, it depends on the qemu-system | qemu
18:01.37thepro4everwoops
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18:01.48jhutchins_ltwols: Oh, yeah.
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18:02.11Wyzardbs0d: and qemu-system pulls in things like libpcap0.8 and openbios-ppc as dependecies, which I was hoping to avoid
18:02.15Wyzardoh well; I can just remove them later
18:02.28sunscreenwell its not broken but the rdesktop script that is supplied with it is and one of the rdesktop script components fails to be installed under debian squeeze
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18:02.48fpuhello :-) I have a small issue with fresh debian installation
18:03.04fpuI used netboot mini.iso image, from usb stick
18:03.15fpuduring installation usb stick was mapped as /dev/sda, and my hard disk as /dev/sdb
18:03.48fpunow, hdd is /dev/sda - and although it boots, it left some ugly remains in my system, that I don't know how to get rid of
18:04.01wolswhich remains?
18:04.06fpufor once, encrypted volume is still called /dev/mapper/sdb4_crypt
18:04.19fpueven though it's actually /dev/sda4
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18:06.53bs0dWyzard: try running for example this Gentoo live cd, its lightweight and prints the error on the front-page: http://mirrors.kernel.org/gentoo/releases/amd64/autobuilds/current-iso/install-amd64-minimal-20110609.iso
18:07.05WyzardI'm booting the Debian businesscard CD
18:07.35WyzardI got the CD's boot prompt, but it seems to have stopped responding when I pressed enter to actually boot
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18:10.52bs0dWyzard: you seem to have same problem as I do, maybe out cpu family does not suit to run 64-bit domU.
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18:12.49bs0dWyzard: I get such output when booting the 64-bit Gentoo live cd: http://img815.imageshack.us/i/screendo.png/
18:12.50fpuwell it seems to be pretty much it, after changing device.map
18:12.59fpu/dev/mapper/sdb4_crypt instead of /dev/mapper/sda4_crypt
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18:13.25Wyzardbs0d: The Core 2 Duo's virtualization hardware can handle 64-bit guests just fine in general; I've done it in VMware
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18:13.39WyzardI doubt there's a Xen-specific limitation regarding that CPU family
18:13.46fpu/dev/mapper/sdb4_crypt: UUID="blablabla" TYPE="LVM2_member"
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18:15.30fpuaaa! there's /etc/crypttab
18:15.56fpulet's reboot and see what happens
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18:17.07bs0dWyzard: I think I got the solution
18:18.39Wyzardbs0d: It works if I change the config's pae, acpi, and apic flags all to 1
18:19.05Wyzardon the advice of http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2009-04/msg00122.html
18:19.56PhoenixSTFHello I am trying to put several debian ISO on a pen with grub2, can anyone tell me what the menu entry is?
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18:20.18fbsPhoenixSTF: the grub menu you see at boot
18:20.49PhoenixSTFfbs, i what is the menu entry for grub.conf
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18:21.16PhoenixSTFso i can select it on boot and without any errors
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18:23.29bs0dWyzard: yes, that's true. It works for unix, but does not help in case of Windows. I was suggested the possible solution which I am going to check
18:24.24bs0dWyzard: VT support is not switched on in BIOS according to flags output in cpuinfo ( btw yours too ), flag vmx/svm is missing. This should solve the problem
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18:25.25bs0dis going to mess with BIOS setup a little bit
18:25.29Wyzardbs0d: Xen hides the VT capability from guests (including dom0) because it's reserved for Xen itself
18:26.13Wyzardbs0d: btw, consider using KVM
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18:31.56webad13I have strange buzzing high pitched sound when I play flash videos... when playing with mplayer everything is ok. what can I look into to solve this?
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18:36.06jhutchins_ltwebad13: What flash pluggin are you using?
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18:40.08bonjoyeei am using hp scanjet 2400c with debian squeeze..however the color scans show wrong colors..please help
18:40.45bonjoyeei am using xsane for scanning..
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18:41.57zapadloHeya, whats the name of that thing that makes your console high res?
18:42.18Wyzardframebuffer?
18:42.29zapadloNo, I think its an acronym
18:42.29simonlnulinux kernel *grin* ?
18:42.41amphifb ? ;)
18:42.44simonlnuhas kms working
18:43.03simonlnufbset. you do need a working framebuffer console.
18:43.37zapadloKMS! Thats it
18:43.39zapadloThanks
18:43.57swilson06key message server?
18:43.57jhutchins_ltKeyboard Mode Switching - but it's the framebuffer that manages console resolution.  kms just supports it.
18:44.08jhutchins_ltEr, sorry kernel mode switching.
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18:44.29jhutchins_lt(I always think Keyboard Monitor Switch when I see it.)
18:44.30rajkostoi need libcap1
18:44.34rajkostoin squeeze
18:44.51bonjoyeeanyone?
18:44.57simonlnukernel mode switching
18:45.43simonlnujust need to have the right kernel driver loaded, and it'll do the rest
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18:46.41jelly-homerajkosto: why?  Can you install the old lenny package?
18:46.56rajkostohow do i install the old leny package
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18:47.24moeleSo i have a question.. are things like smurf detection, ddos filters, martian checks etc.. really necessary if your firewall's policy is set to strict drop drop drop on all accounts? or do these options provide additional filtering, or options that would be missed by a default deny all policy?
18:47.28pokkerfacecould anyone get to work smartcam?
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18:48.38jhutchins_lt!webcam
18:48.38dpkgFor webcam device support in Debian, ask me about <gspca>, <uvcvideo>, <ov51x-jpeg>, <ov511>, <quickcam>, <m560x-driver>, <w9968cf>, <pwc>, <sn9c20x>.  http://wiki.debian.org/Webcam
18:49.09webad13jhutchins_lt: I am using adobe flash, think it is the latest one
18:50.43webad13jhutchins_lt: version 10.3.162.29
18:50.45jhutchins_ltwebad13: Does Adobe take bugreports?
18:50.54webad13jhutchins_lt: no idea
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18:51.13pokkerfacejhutchins, i want to use the phone camera as a webcam
18:51.26jhutchins_ltpokkerface: See above.
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18:52.05jelly-home10.3.181.22 seems to be the latest
18:52.13webad13jhutchins_lt: I'll try with a newer version... thre is native 64 bit...
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18:59.20oldirty!dpkg quickcam
18:59.20dpkgQuickCam is a brand of web cameras manufactured by Logitech.  UVC and non-UVC device lists: http://quickcamteam.net/devices .  For support of old model QuickCam Express/Web devices, ask me about <qc-usb>.  Later QuickCam models are supported by the GSPCA, USB Video Class or Phillip webcam drivers, ask me about <gspca>, <uvcvideo> or <pwc> respectively.
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19:10.15dade_91Salve a tutti , non sapevo a chi rivolgermi per questo ho pensato a voi , la mia domanda se pur banale non ha trovato risposta. La documentazione di un programma come deve essere redatta , ho svilippato due software uno che genera un labirinto e un altro che li risolve , ho disposto la documentazione da consegnare secondo questo indice
19:10.17dade_91Testo del Problema
19:10.19dade_91Analisi della Soluzione
19:10.21dade_91Genera Labirinto
19:10.23dade_91Classi
19:10.25ompaul!it
19:10.25dade_91Uso Delle Classi
19:10.25dpkgCiao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano.  Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
19:10.27dade_91Risolve Labirinto
19:10.29dade_91Classi RisolveLabirinto
19:10.31dade_91Uso delle Classi
19:10.33dade_91Esempi di esecuzione GeneraLabirintoCDFFGM
19:10.35dade_91Esempi di esecuzione RisolveLabirintoCDFFGM
19:10.37dade_91Source Code GeneraLabirintoCDFFGM
19:10.38jelly-homedade_91: STOP
19:10.39dade_91Source Code RisolveLabirintoCDFFGM
19:10.49jelly-homehammertime
19:10.50dade_91jelly-home:  ops
19:11.11dade_91omes:  sorry
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19:11.54sacredchaoHow can I disable wicd-gtk client from auto-starting with my desktop environment?>
19:12.01dade_91clear
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19:12.07abrotmanwtf
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19:16.24omesdade_91: sorry what?
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19:17.10dade_91omes i have paste in Italian
19:17.13manitouanyone to DebConf11 in BiH ? (sry if its off topic )
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19:20.47abrotmanmanitou: there's a #debconf on irc.oftc.net i believe
19:20.52abrotmanor #debconf11 something like that
19:21.17abrotmanmanitou: but many people are going, some are in this channel
19:22.21manitouhope so !
19:23.17jelly-home"definitely maybe"
19:23.58flamingspinachhmm
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19:26.23flamingspinachI think my apt cache or something is fubar - I get this error from aptitude when I try to update: http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7181/20110612122412717x183sc.png
19:26.56flamingspinachI think it's due to me trying to update when I was connected to one of those networks where all HTTP requests to anywhere return some static login page until you log in, and I forgot to log in before aptitude update-ing
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19:27.07flamingspinachany idea how to fix this?
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19:27.12abrotmanput your sources.list in a pastebin also
19:27.29jelly-homeflamingspinach: does it persist on further "aptitude update" runs
19:27.44flamingspinachjelly-home: yup
19:28.02flamingspinachwhen I run it from the command line, those errors come up before it even starts downloading anything
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19:28.05flamingspinachso I presume it's a local problem
19:28.07flamingspinachabrotman: hang on
19:28.27flamingspinachabrotman: http://pastebin.com/6mP3c6dX
19:29.20abrotmanplease tell me you have some pinning going on?
19:29.27flamingspinachyup
19:29.32jelly-home<Steph> Hedwig: for my big recital in college, I had my friend do it.  She put it in an updo and used about 30 pins to do it, haha.  Took forever to get them all out.  When in doubt, add more pins!
19:29.32flamingspinachhang on, I'll pastebin that too
19:29.34abrotmaneven still ..
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19:29.52abrotmanthinks jelly-home pasted in the wrong channel ?
19:29.52flamingspinachabrotman: http://pastebin.com/vRdvL1RC
19:30.08flamingspinachabrotman: don't worry, experimental is priority -1 :)
19:30.22flamingspinachI just want to see the packages in aptitude so I can go watch them on qa, read bugs, etc.
19:30.22gufusWhat's the best solution to serving hd movies from a debian machine to other local machines (i.e., a media server)?
19:30.22abrotmanflamingspinach: if i had to guess, and i am .. your sources are pulling something your aptitude hasn't been updated to process yet
19:30.23jelly-homeflamingspinach: eh, I'd rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*_*  and retry aptitude update
19:30.44ompaulabrotman: wiki^Wircleaks
19:30.51flamingspinachabrotman: my sources pulled some garbage login page from the free wireless network I was connected to, is I think the problem
19:30.56flamingspinachI just want to know how to purge the cache of it :P
19:31.13jelly-home*_*
19:31.30flamingspinachOK...
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19:32.26flamingspinachjelly-home: seems to be working :) thanks!
19:32.50jelly-home^_^
19:33.03gufusDoes anyone here use debian to serve media on their local networks? HD media at that?
19:33.35jelly-homegufus: does a simple nfs file server count
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19:34.23gufusjelly-home: well i'm not sure
19:34.36gufusjelly-home:  I'm looking for something to stream my hd video content
19:35.24gufusjelly-home:  With window's i'd just share the foler and that was enough, but with debian and Samba, it trys to load (on vlc) but eventually hangs and freezes vlc
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19:37.01oldirtygufus -  you have to describe your setup a little more thoroughly. I'm assuming you're trying to mount a CIFS share via Samba, correct?
19:37.34oldirtygufus -  but the connection eventually dies, causing samba and VLC to fail as a result.
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19:38.25gufusoldirty: I'm fairly new to debian so you'll have to bear with me.  I've got a dedicated machine running debian.  I've got samba running and to my knowledge smaba doesn't die, i'm just afriad it doesn't have the throughput to stream hd media, ro that it wasn't intended to be used to stream hd content
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19:39.37jelly-homegufus: might try checking logs under /var/log/samba/ for, well, anything suspicious
19:39.43gufusI don't get error messages on either side showing that samba crashed and was restarted or anything, and I can still access the file share (I'm not sure what a CIFS is) and manipulate stuff from another machine.
19:40.13gufusI was just wondering if anyone know of a project that worked specifically with serviing up video from debian..
19:41.11oldirtygufus -  CIFS is the replacement for SMB file-sharing (where Samba got it's name), as far as video streaming I can help. What formats?
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19:41.55gufusoldirty: mostly .mkv
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19:42.24gufusoldirty: some avi, but mostly .mkv. lots of hd content.
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19:45.08oldirtygufus -  try lighttpd for mkv/avi streaming. Let me see if I can find a free tube script to aid you in locating and playing the files.
19:45.29gufusoldirty: ok.. i'll take a look at that thanks..
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19:47.56oldirtygufus -  http://www.phpmotion.com/, looks like it would be a pain to set up with lighttpd though...
19:48.41gufusugh.
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19:49.22gufusthe only thing debian has going for me at the moment is that it's hosting my webserver much faster than it did on windows.
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19:49.59gufusbut i was also able to stream media from it, run game servers on it, and use it as a seedbox with relative ease.
19:51.13gufusI've spent my weekend trying to get this all to work, lol. to no avail, lol
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19:53.28wolsgufus: fyi pretty much every appliance out there uses samba, from the smallest NAS external drives to big fileservers.it can handle HD content, and more
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19:54.24wolsand yes changing from windows is a challenge since everything is new and strange, but all that you mentioned is possible, only the gameserver part might be tricky, depending on the game, since not all games have linux servers
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19:55.12skamikazegufus: webdav / nginx
19:55.59gufusI've been playing around in linux for some time now. was using it as my primary OS for the better part of a year.. so its that it's new and scary, its just that I just don't know enough to make it work. and the time required for me to fiugre out how to make it work simply isn't worth the effort, not just to watch a video in a different room. Not at least for me..
19:56.20gufusthanks for your help all.. I appreciate it.
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20:02.41thepro4everwhat is the equivalent ipconfig command for debian ?
20:02.57Wyzardifconfig
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20:03.05Wyzardor just ip
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20:07.43thepro4everhow do i unzip a rar file on debian
20:07.47thepro4everunrar
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20:08.04th0rthepro4ever: install unrar
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20:15.38daemonkeeperthepro4ever:  Depending on your archive, you might need the non-free program
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20:18.11eamoncan someone help me install a program?
20:18.20eamonthis is from source
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20:18.28eamonIt required a dep to configure
20:18.35dawudeamon: which program?
20:18.38ompauleamon: what program is it, and what version of debian
20:18.40eamonso I installed the dep
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20:18.54eamonbut I had to use --prefix=/home/xxxxxxx/apps for the ./configure of the dep
20:19.00eamonit worked
20:19.13eamonwhen I go to install the main program, it still says it's missing the dep
20:19.27eamonhere's the pastebin:
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20:19.50eamonhttp://dpaste.de/AqIa/
20:19.56thepro4everi installed unrar-free, unrar failed to extract the three files
20:20.15valdynthepro4ever: you got told to install the nonfree version
20:20.17ompauleamon: do you read the questions people ask you or are you just a stream of consciousness?
20:20.25valdynjudd: versions unrar
20:20.25juddPackage unrar on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 1:3.8.2-1; squeeze/non-free: 1:3.9.10-1; sid/non-free: 1:4.0.3-1; wheezy/non-free: 1:4.0.3-1
20:21.04eamonDebian GNU/Linux 6.0
20:21.04eamonkernel 2.6.35.4
20:21.28eamonompaul did you read the pastebin?
20:21.35ompaulI started to
20:21.53eamonthe program is pushpool
20:22.28jelly-homejudd: versions rar
20:22.28juddPackage rar on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 1:3.8b3-1; squeeze/non-free: 2:3.9.3-1; sid/non-free: 2:4.0.b3-1; wheezy/non-free: 2:4.0.b3-1
20:22.44valdyneamon: libjansson-dev is installed?
20:22.47dawudeamon: if you want to install to a private directory, you also need to especify where do the required LIBS live via env vars, as the log says
20:22.50eamonhow do i tell the configure for pushpool that I installed libjasson in a folder other than /usr/lib
20:23.03valdyneamon: you dont
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20:23.35valdyneamon: is there a reason you did not use the debian package?
20:23.39eamondawud: how do I modify env vars?
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20:23.57dawudeamon: please answer valdyn question
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20:24.00eamonvaldyn: yes, I'm not root
20:24.16eamonroot/admin
20:24.34eamonusers have to compile if they want progrgams
20:24.41valdyneamon: ok, it might be easier to get hold of a root box than to fix all possible issues for you
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20:24.52dawudeamon: read the block stating with: "Libraries have been installed in"
20:24.59dawudstarting*
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20:25.19eamonwhat switch should I use after ./configure
20:25.20valdyneamon: but you can control this via LD* variables like "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=foo" or "LD_PRELOAD=file.so"
20:25.38eamonok tyvm
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20:25.45thepro4everhow do i find out what repo unrar-nonfree is in
20:25.55eamonhow do I do this LD* variable?
20:25.56valdynthepro4ever: its in the non-free repo
20:25.59dawudpossibly non-free ....
20:26.01kthakoreHello I am trying to setup a openvpn client and I keep getting this error in my log http://paste.scsys.co.uk/112469
20:26.08valdynthepro4ever: but its *not* unrar-nonfree, its "unrar"
20:26.54eamonpls help me... I don't know how to use the "LD variables" you describe valdyn :-(
20:27.10valdyneamon: i cant hold your hands for this all the way
20:27.36eamoncan you hold it for just this one bit?
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20:27.48thepro4evervaldyn: this is my setup for non-free, deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free
20:27.49eamoni don't know how to change a variable
20:27.57thepro4evervaldyn: do you have something different?
20:28.03valdyneamon: you would do it like "LD_PRELOAD=soemfile.so <program>" to run a program with one .so file preloaded
20:28.13valdyneamon: for the configure part : run ./configure --help
20:28.16thepro4evervaldyn: i don't see any unrar package besides unrar-free when i do a apt search
20:28.33wols,versions unrar
20:28.34juddPackage unrar on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 1:3.8.2-1; squeeze/non-free: 1:3.9.10-1; sid/non-free: 1:4.0.3-1; wheezy/non-free: 1:4.0.3-1
20:28.41wolsthepro4ever: look harder
20:28.42valdynthepro4ever: whoever told you its in backports?
20:28.42dawudthepro4ever: then you don't have non-free in your sources.list
20:28.54eamoni just don't understand valdyn. Do I just type LD_PRELOAD=soemfile.so <program>"
20:29.06eamoninto the shell or what? I'm totally lost
20:29.09valdyneamon: thats to run the program after its built
20:29.09eamon:-(
20:29.10Wyzardthepapermen: The sources line you mentioned a moment ago is for backports, not the official Debian archive
20:29.15valdyneamon: sure, in the shell
20:29.15ompaulthepro4ever: in your /etc/apt/sources.list add contrib non-free to all lines then refresh your tool to install and away you go
20:29.16Wyzarderr, thepro4ever ^^^
20:29.22wolseamon: do you know how environment variables work?
20:29.23valdyneamon: everything we do here is in the shell
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20:29.41eamonwols: no, not really
20:29.42[sr]howdy people
20:29.50eamonI used them in gentoo for USE
20:29.51[sr]i have a strange thing in my apt since last update
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20:30.03valdyneamon: but build your program first, run "./configure --help" and set the path to your jansson dev files accordingly
20:30.06[sr]it works OK but.... have an anoying messagE: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 27227
20:30.12[sr]several messages of this one's
20:30.17[sr]this has solution?
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20:30.27thepapermenWyzard, eh.. :)))
20:30.39valdyn[sr]: read the error carefully and fix the status file manually
20:30.52[sr]valdyn: missing arch in this case
20:31.03[sr]valdyn: how to fix it? or there can i see the solution
20:31.22valdyn[sr]: read the status file, worst case you jsut remove the text for the whole package and install that package again
20:31.26eamonvaldyn: I thought ./configure was to build the program? How can I build the program if I can't ./configure it? I am not grasping concepts
20:31.40thepro4everwoooo adding contrib non-free made it visible
20:31.46valdyneamon: did you run and read ./configure --help yet ?
20:31.55thepro4everall this time i've been missing out on extra package :O
20:31.55[sr]valdyn: can i delete it?
20:32.02valdyn[sr]: no!
20:32.18valdyn[sr]: i mean, you can delete the text for one package and then install that package again
20:32.25valdyn[sr]: but you cannot remove the whole file
20:32.28eamonno, I'll do it now valdyn.. sorry for wasting your time, please keep helping me
20:32.34[sr]valdyn: i have one message for every installed package :|
20:32.45valdyn[sr]: ok, then your issue is something else
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20:33.10valdyn[sr]: put the errors to a paste site
20:33.22[sr]valdyn: the thing is it happened on all my 3 servers
20:34.07valdyn[sr]: better than having 3 different errors i guess
20:34.30[sr]valdyn: true
20:34.45valdyn[sr]: put your sources.list on a paste site too
20:34.51[sr]sec
20:35.02eamonvaldyn: I am reading it but I can't find where to specify input files... only output files... The ./configure --help is part of the pastebin i put up earlier...
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20:36.31valdyneamon: the environment variables at the bottom
20:37.03eamonvaldyn: would it be the LIBS flag?
20:37.31[sr]valdyn: http://pastebin.com/0U7KwbAU
20:37.32valdyneamon: maybe all 3: LIBS,LDFLAGS,CPPFLAGS
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20:38.16eamonlets see how this goes
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20:38.30valdyn[sr]: what does the "arch" command give?
20:38.42[sr]i686
20:39.01valdynthat exists in debian?
20:39.13valdyn[sr]: so this is not debian?
20:39.18[sr]it is!
20:39.27[sr]since 2001!
20:39.27valdyn[sr]: why the i686 then?
20:39.32[sr]no idea..
20:39.37valdyn[sr]: ok, maybe I am confused
20:39.47[sr]the error messages just appeared since last update to apt & dpkg
20:39.49valdyn[sr]: i thought debian would should i386
20:40.01[sr]maybe in lenny, i use SID
20:40.25[sr]i see now packages have i386
20:40.37valdyn[sr]: yea
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20:40.44valdyn[sr]: im not sure what "arch" should show though
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20:41.33eamonLIBS,LDFLAGS,CPPFLAGS=/home/ranunculoid/apps/lib/libjansson.so ./configure --prefix=/home/ranunculoid/apps
20:41.38valdyn[sr]: i guess you already knew that using sid on servers is silly
20:41.39eamonthat's what I typed
20:41.53valdyneamon: why do you think you can chain an assignemnt like that with , ?
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20:42.01[sr]valdyn: no problem at all, only with apt :)
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20:42.11eamonI don't know how to use en nariables
20:42.21eamon*env variables
20:42.27valdyneamon: im sorry this leads to far, i dont have that patience
20:42.39eamoni understand
20:42.49valdyneamon: those 3 variables exist as distinct variables for a reason, its not the same path for all 3
20:42.52eamoni wish i knew how to do this
20:42.57wolfricdoes anyone happen to know if sudo consults the nsswitch.conf in debian? I'm trying to configure it for ldap
20:43.20valdyn[sr]: aptitude and dpkg show the same issue right?
20:43.23wolfricor if there's a method for finding the build config options for the sudo that comes from the packager
20:43.40valdynwolfric: everything goes via pam, including sudo
20:44.23[sr]valdyn: yes
20:44.27wolfricvaldyn: thanks
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20:44.50valdynwolfric: oh sorry, wrong context
20:45.00wols[sr]: what does "uname -a" say? and "dpkg -l libc6|tail -1"?
20:45.06ayambitHow do I log all starting processes? I want to log all new processes with their commandline.
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20:45.44[sr]valdyn: ii  libc6                                2.13-4                           Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries
20:45.44[sr]flecha:~# uname -a
20:45.44[sr]Linux flecha 2.6.35.11 #1 SMP Tue Feb 22 20:07:43 WET 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
20:45.44[sr]flecha:~#
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20:45.50[sr]ops
20:46.07[sr]valdyn: don't know if you saw the info
20:46.12valdynwolfric: me or you are confused, i dont know where your ldap ( user database ? ) and your name resolution collide
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20:46.49wolfricvaldyn: sudo man specifies that the location of the sudoers file can be specified in the /etc/nsswitch.conf file (so either ldap or file)
20:47.29wolfricvaldyn: so nsswitch.conf would lookup the sudoers file and get it from there, it doesn't appear to be working though
20:47.30eamonvaldyn: how do I add a file to environment variables instread of having it take over the default i.e. I want default+new rather than just new. I will pastebin what I mean. Sorry for being so linux stupid.
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20:47.46valdynwolfric: ok, no idea, but sudo does look at nsswitch.conf anyway
20:48.53valdyneamon: example. to include headers in /foo/include you would  ' CPPFLAGS="-I/foo/include" '
20:49.05eamonhttp://dpaste.de/oOc6/
20:49.12eamonokty
20:49.16wolfricvaldyn: are you sure? as nsswitch.conf doesn't have any entry by default there for sudo
20:49.41[sr]valdyn: from what i see on google i'«m not the only one with this problem, but don't see anyone who solved it
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20:50.02valdynwolfric: run "sudo strace -eopen sudo ls 2>&1 | grep nsswitch"
20:50.38valdyn[sr]: its trivial for anyone who uses programs C or C++ and uses gcc / g++
20:50.41Bopwhat does it mean "rc." in startup scripts ?
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20:52.25valdyn[sr]: LDFLAGS and CPPFLAGS contain switches you normally would pass to the compiler / linker, LIBS holds a list of libraries that also gets passed to the linker
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20:53.08Bar_Hi
20:53.19Bar_3000 open files is a lot for a server ? :|
20:53.28Bar_it could have some effect of performance ?
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20:53.37[sr]valdyn: anyway, the people who has this problem seems to have the same scenario, i've been updating since 2001
20:53.37valdyn[sr]: gah, wrong target
20:53.52[sr]valdyn: i don't even remember what name it was in 2001
20:54.15eamonvaldyn: If I type LIBS=-/home/ranunculoid/apps/lib/ will that catch every lib in that filder or do I have to specify them manually?
20:54.22valdyn[sr]: lucky your libc6 isnt totally broken
20:54.32valdyn[sr]: thats what just happened on sid
20:55.52valdyn[sr]: just out of couriosity can you should me "ls -l /lib/ld*" ?
20:56.01valdyn[sr]: s/should/show/
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20:56.47b0mbadilhello
20:56.58[sr]valdyn: http://pastebin.com/nJRDc91L
20:57.05valdyneamon: what that dash (-) ?
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20:58.41valdyn[sr]: ld from 2001
20:58.41eamonis the dash so that it will include the new folder as well as the default ones?
20:58.51valdyn[sr]: check which package that in
20:59.48eamonvaldyn: here's where I'm at: http://dpaste.de/Psd7/
21:00.21[sr]valdyn: which should be?
21:00.51valdyn[sr]: this is really unrelated to your problem, but latest libc6 from sid might barf on upgrade and you might be fucked
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21:01.26daemonkeepervaldyn: Fixed since 6/9
21:01.45valdynjudd: versions libc6
21:01.46juddPackage libc6 on i386 -- lenny: 2.7-18lenny7; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny7; squeeze: 2.11.2-10; wheezy: 2.13-4; sid: 2.13-6
21:01.53valdyndaemonkeeper: nope
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21:02.28valdyndaemonkeeper: -6 was not ok for me till I removed old ld* manually
21:02.46daemonkeeperOh, ok. I read the updates on 629534 since then
21:03.37[sr]valdyn: yes but so far no problem
21:04.06valdyn[sr]: sure, youre on the -4 libc6
21:04.26valdyn[sr]: the issue might be when you upgrade, not before
21:04.43[sr]valdyn: yes, i saw something now, i have libc6-i686, hummmmmmm
21:05.06valdyn[sr]: thats ok, thats just a version for more modern cpu
21:05.08[sr]valdyn: on, one machine that doesn't have this problem also has libc6-i686
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21:05.38valdyn[sr]: i dont know how debian reads its arch
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21:07.05valdyn[sr]: run "dpkg-architecture"
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21:07.37[sr]valdyn: i386
21:07.53valdyn[sr]: dpkg --print-architecture  ?
21:08.09[sr]yes, i386
21:08.12valdyn[sr]: that should be a match to your status file too
21:08.28[sr]that seems to be correct then
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21:09.21valdyn[sr]: still somewhere comparing that to status file broke
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21:09.45[sr]valdyn: maybe i'll report this to dpkg
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21:16.56[sr]valdyn: thanks for the help, sleep time for me :)
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21:30.42jhujhitidoes anyone have any idea how i use the sgpio ports my sata controller offers? i have /dev/sg nodes for each disk, but when i use sg_ses on those nodes, it tells me diagnostics are not supported
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21:38.43erufuhi, any users of wmfs ?
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21:40.49wols!anyone use wmfs
21:40.50dpkgNo, no one uses wmfs, not even the people who use it.
21:41.01wolserufu: now ask your real question
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21:58.20kingsleyDoes anyone here happen to know, what, if anything, is the so called "Debian Way" of networking a virtual machine?
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22:02.17wolskingsley: always depends on the VM used how to do it
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22:03.09kingsleywols: That seems reasonable.
22:03.28kingsleywols: Maybe I should have asked...
22:03.52kingsleyDoes anyone here happen to know, what, if anything, is the so called "Debian Way" of networking a virtual machine running under kvm or qemu?
22:06.03jhutchins_ltUsually you set up a bridged virual network adapter then manage it the same way you would a real machine.
22:07.08kingsleyjhutchins_lt: I suppose that's encouraging.
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22:07.31kingsleyjhutchins_lt: I've already set up a bridge.
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22:08.07kingsleyjhutchins_lt: : Maybe I should have asked...
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22:08.27jhutchins_lt!tell kingsley about networking
22:08.27kingsleyDoes anyone here happen to know, what, if anything, is the so called "Debian Way" of managing iptables?
22:08.50jhutchins_ltkingsley: Lots of options.
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22:09.16jhutchins_ltkingsley: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables
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22:16.30kingsleyjhutchins_lt: Do you happen to know if there's an easier Debian Way to manage iptables than manually tweaking its rules by hand?
22:18.06kingsleyjhutchins_lt: Or, alternatively, whether there specific rules necessary for networking a bridged virtual machine are published?
22:18.14skamikazekingsley: ufw/ gufw
22:18.20kingsleys/there/the/
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22:42.55jhutchins_ltkingsley: Well, you could just leave it blank and rely on a firewall on the host or upstream.
22:43.17jhutchins_ltkingsley: There are lots of firewall managers.  I've used shorewall just because it makes banning an ip quick and easy.
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22:46.34kingsleyjhutchins_lt: Yet two more possibilities....
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22:57.12TrueDDGood night all
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23:11.35Guest404on squeeze , i can connect with nautilus on smb://ipaddress , but i can't use the network browser in nautilus, i just say it can't get list of shares, any idea, i installed the samba-clients, but is not helping
23:11.40ujjainWhat terminal does Debian use?
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23:12.27Guest404ujjain, i think bash, gnome-terminal in gnome interface
23:13.29ujjaindoes this affect whether putty changes the putty title bar?
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23:17.32centHOGGwhat
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23:26.19somiajujjain: there are many terminals in Debian. I think you need to ask a more specific question.
23:26.36ketsai need to know what kind of sodimm is in this netbook, any utility exists that would tell me if its ddr ddr2 or ddr3 ? its not in dmidecode
23:26.48centHOGGhwinfo
23:26.52somiajujjain: check out the putty options, I belive you can set weither or not it accepts programs to set its title.
23:27.00ujjainIt works for CentOS.
23:27.05ujjainnot for Debian servers.
23:27.15somiajujjain: what works and what doesn't?
23:27.18ujjainI keep on seeing the sshgateway server in the PuTTY window, pretty annoying when managing lots of servers.
23:27.25ujjainI log on to sshgateway.mydomain.tld.
23:27.34ujjainwhen I log on to centos01, it shows centos01 in title bar.
23:27.45ujjainwhen I log into debian01, it shows still sshgateway in title bar
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23:28.18centHOGGi think that's openSSH config
23:28.22somiajby default debian won't set the title of your terminal. Change your .bashrc (or what ever shell you prefer) to set the title if that is what you want.
23:28.33ujjainI asked in #openssh.
23:28.50centHOGGbut works the same in both distros right?
23:28.53ujjainSounds like the shell sets the terminal window - that's a configuration issue.
23:29.14ujjainI will check out the .bashrc and profile and check if I can spot something
23:29.32somiajujjain: check to see what centOS does in its /etc/profile or other shell scripts, I belivei in there they have it setup to change the name by default. Ubuntu does the same thing afiak, so just look how they doo it, and modify your login scripts
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23:30.47ujjainsomiaj: I don't have access to Ubuntu, but reading the files, it's not that easy to grasp though.
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23:31.11centHOGGthe guy who runs that rpm repository dag has a nice putty config page if it will help
23:32.32somiajcentHOGG: I doubt its putty, applications can set/change the terminal titles if the term supports it. Some distros just do that by default when you login
23:32.45centHOGGyes
23:33.31ujjainIt's nt related to PUTTY?
23:33.35somiajseems like you can do it via an escape sequence
23:33.40ujjainit works in CentOS as I want it.
23:33.48ujjainsomiaj: how?
23:33.59somiajujjain: its a general termainl thing, you can send the terminal an escape sequence that changes the title, debian just doen'st do it by default
23:34.07somiajujjain: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=448614 (from google)
23:34.19ujjainI googled too, but thanks! :)
23:34.32somiajthat explains the escape sequnce
23:34.35Ox1read this: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Xterm-Title.html
23:35.10somiajujjain: echo -en "\033]2;foobar\007" -- put that in your .bashrc
23:35.11ujjaintnx :)
23:37.49ujjainhmm, both scripts failed though.
23:37.56ujjainalso, I don't think I use xterm, do I?
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23:39.08somiajujjain: just type that into your shell to test it first
23:39.10centHOGGujjain: are you looking in your putty menu config right now... i see some settings that might be what you want
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23:39.33centHOGGputty - window - behaviour
23:39.33ujjainsomiaj: I tried.
23:39.38somiajujjain: make sure you set your putty to be vt100 complient (so it understands those escape sequences) -- there are other methos go fgiure out how cent0s sets the title and mimic it
23:40.15ujjainI will check out PUTTY's behaviour in this
23:40.23centHOGGwindow title?
23:40.34somiajyou can tell putty to have a title if you want
23:40.40ujjainCent  Yep, but also server deep
23:40.48ujjainIt already changes the title by default.
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23:41.09somiajso figure out what its doing, most likely its doing what we just told you -- sends the corerct escape sequence
23:41.18Lost_Causei just set up dyndns but i can't figure out how to get it to run on startup.
23:41.24ujjainI sent the escape sequence.
23:41.52ujjainoh wait, yours works! :)
23:41.57ujjainunlike 2 other solutions I found
23:42.04centHOGGso what did you do exactly
23:42.07centHOGGpleez
23:42.09ujjaintype  echo -en "\033]2;foobar\007"
23:42.17centHOGGin bashrc?
23:42.22ujjainnot yet
23:42.22centHOGGor in term
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23:42.36ujjainjust in putty typed it
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23:43.21centHOGGi labeling this tip "how to change ssh window title".... right?
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23:44.02Ox1s/ssh/shell/
23:44.06ujjainYes.
23:44.09centHOGGok
23:44.12Ox1well, more specifically, bash
23:44.33ujjainI googled for putty window change, and ssh and shell,
23:44.38ujjainwindow -> title
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23:48.07somiajI'd put that \007 in the same line
23:49.18ujjainI'll just write that line without PROMPT>.. in /etc/bashrc
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23:49.31somiajwell bash uses that if you want it to change
23:49.34ujjainuhhhh wait
23:49.36somiajdo you want the title to update to your CWD?
23:49.48ujjainlol, it's commented out
23:49.49ujjainin debian
23:49.50ujjain# Commented out, don't overwrite xterm -T "title" -n "icontitle" by default.
23:49.59ujjain<PROTECTED>
23:50.03ujjainI can just uncomment it.
23:50.19rypervenche,versions ffmpeg
23:50.21juddPackage ffmpeg on i386 -- lenny: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny1; lenny-security: 0.svn20080206-18+lenny3; lenny-multimedia: 3:20070329-0.0etch1; squeeze: 4:0.5.2-6; sid: 4:0.6.2-3; wheezy: 4:0.6.2-3; experimental: 4:0.7~beta2-2; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2; wheezy-multimedia: 5:0.6.2-0.4; sid-multimedia: 5:0.6.3-0.0
23:50.22ujjainYes, I like this behaviour, title update to cwd is nice too
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23:54.30zendeavorhm, maybe i'm looking for a #debian-server channel
23:54.52zendeavorbut that one's dead!
23:55.24zendeavorlol
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23:56.23somiajask here
23:56.41zendeavorI was just going to ask after a few opinions
23:57.39zendeavormaybe a recommendation for an ircd
23:57.49zendeavorif anyone here has a preference
23:57.51centHOGG$$$
23:58.00zendeavori'd like to hear ;D
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