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| 00:04.35 | Pipo | Hi. My auth.log is full of cron entries from user smmsp, which is a sendmail user. I'm not running a mailserver. How do I find out what's causing this? Is it safe to just disable sendmail from executing at all runlevels or is it used internally by Linux? (yeah I'm a novice) |
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| 00:05.20 | MrFrood | used internally |
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| 00:05.38 | MrFrood | try running the command |
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| 00:05.48 | MrFrood | su -c mail |
| 00:06.02 | jhutchins_lt | Pipo: mail is used for internal messaging. |
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| 00:07.01 | Pipo | Hmm...it's the unattended upgrades package I installed sending me error reports |
| 00:07.40 | Pipo | thanks for the help |
| 00:08.12 | Pipo | but it filled up 7 zip files worth of logs. I'll have to look into it. |
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| 00:09.01 | ctr2 | hi all |
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| 00:14.16 | bean-java | Hello, I have been running debian for about a year, and recently was invited to assist at a "second-hand"/"you-donate-your-stuff-we-sell-it-for-charity" as the "computers and electronics" guy. Been thinking about installing debian on all of the computers i would put up for sale but, i am having a heck of a time figuring out how to "install" debian without going through the user-setup part of the installer. Can anyone help me figure out how i should |
| 00:14.16 | bean-java | do it "properly"? |
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| 00:17.10 | MrFrood | bean-java: have you read http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual ? |
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| 00:23.03 | bean-java | MrFrood...if your talking about the parts discussing preseeding...yes i have... however my situation will be different in that each computer will be different, i have seen some 500mhz p2's and 1ghz p3's and some 266 p1's... all of the systems are very different so instead of trying to create a preseed for each computer i would ultimately like to just chroot install it but have the user-setup start on first boot, i just can't figure out how to do that |
| 00:23.04 | bean-java | or something "similar: |
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| 00:24.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: debian doesn't have an OEM installer mode |
| 00:24.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: and i wasn't able to find a guide explaining how its done :/ |
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| 00:24.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: ubuntu merged their OEM package into ubiquity (their installer), so we can'teasily use that either |
| 00:24.43 | Pipo | Is anyone here experienced in setting up PPTPD on debian? |
| 00:25.20 | bean-java | kamping_kaiser: don't take this personally but i am glad you didn't find one..... i have been looking for a few days now, and if you found one just that fast it would mean my google-fu is no good |
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| 00:25.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: hah, dont worry. i spent a few days last month trying to find one (for a very similar reason to you) |
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| 00:29.24 | bean-java | kamping_kaiser: ah....... seems trying to do that is kinda popular...... i wonder what we should make a bug:wishlist against to get that functionality? |
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| 00:30.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: worth doing (if there isnt one alrady), but it would still need someone to cut the code |
| 00:30.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | and i suspect the code is the hard bit |
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| 00:31.36 | MrFrood | suspects "good" code is the hard bit... |
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| 00:32.34 | bean-java | Kamping_Kaiser: i suspect it as well...... however before anyone could try "gnawing" on the problem we would need to figure out who to ask..... i know i saw a topic like this on the debian-boot mailing list but that doesn't seem the right place to do it |
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| 00:33.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: it would involve work in debian-installer, and potentially a secondary 'handle first boot' program to do the setup |
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| 00:43.42 | evilaim | help! |
| 00:43.58 | bean-java | Kamping_kaiser: well..... i think i shall go and make a bug:wishlist against debian-installer.... well here in a lil while anyways(let others see the question first)......but thank you for your input.....if i get something out of it i will try and find you here |
| 00:44.16 | evilaim | this damn mailer keeps emailing and it's getting bounced back, cause the cron |
| 00:44.28 | evilaim | everytime my scheduler runs, the system sends me an email |
| 00:44.45 | evilaim | is there a way to turn it off? |
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| 00:45.38 | jonesst1 | think so |
| 00:45.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: i'm having a browse of ubuntus old oem code atm (it got merged into ubqiuity in 2008, so its probably not the best to be looking at) |
| 00:45.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: if you do file a bug, please let me know which one so i can subscribe to it too |
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| 00:46.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | evilaim: are you running exim? |
| 00:47.01 | bean-java | Kamping_kaiser:.....no problem.... when/if i do file the Bug:WishList against it i will kick you information via this channel |
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| 00:47.30 | Bushmills | "scheduler" .. cron? |
| 00:47.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: thanks a bunch :) |
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| 00:53.48 | evilaim | I'm running sendmail |
| 00:53.57 | evilaim | and ya, I have a schedule.php for my tasks |
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| 00:55.26 | Bushmills | either cause your cronjob not to output, or add MAILTO= to crontab |
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| 00:55.50 | evilaim | 0,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/bin/php /var/www/schedule.php >> /home/user/schedule.log >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 00:56.04 | bean-java | Kamping_Kaiser: no problem |
| 00:58.09 | Bushmills | maybe your null device is full |
| 00:58.42 | evilaim | k, well I tossed in the mailto="" stuff |
| 00:58.45 | evilaim | so we'll see how that helps;) |
| 00:58.56 | Bushmills | caps |
| 00:59.10 | evilaim | I know |
| 00:59.12 | evilaim | :) |
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| 01:09.34 | Pipo | what command ca I use to put the lines of a conf file that aren't comments in a new text file? eg something meh.conf >> newfile.txt |
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| 01:10.16 | Bushmills | Pipo: grep |
| 01:10.23 | Pipo | thanks |
| 01:11.37 | evilaim | looks like it worked |
| 01:11.39 | evilaim | tx sexy people |
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| 01:17.02 | Bazalkryn | Is anyone running KDE on Squeeze? |
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| 01:17.26 | dondelelcaro | !anyone use |
| 01:17.26 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 01:18.04 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; yes |
| 01:19.20 | Bazalkryn | Dou you like it ok? I'm currently running Gnome on Squeeze but I keep glancing at KDE thinking that I might enjoy it better if I made the switch. |
| 01:19.32 | Bazalkryn | Does 4.4 work well for you? |
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| 01:23.03 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; i use kde 4.4.5 which comes with squeeze and i like it apart from kmail |
| 01:24.45 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas: I've pretty much given up on email clients anymore. So you use mostly KDE apps or do you import a number of GTK apps? |
| 01:25.30 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; i use whatever is the best tool fo rthe job, like libreoffice for office progs |
| 01:25.47 | boudiccas | and i dont know how to tell if i'm using gtk apps |
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| 01:27.15 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas: I'm sorry. GTk is what most Gnome apps use. |
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| 01:27.50 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas: Like GIMP, for instance. |
| 01:28.08 | chipotle | so if i want to create .../sites/all/modules and make that directory and all future files in it owned by www-data, how would i do that? |
| 01:28.14 | boudiccas | i suppose i use the occasional gnome app but i'm not aware of whether its kde or gnome. i just use what i consider to be the best prog for my use. yes, i do use gimp |
| 01:28.44 | Bazalkryn | Cool. Do you find the Activities features in KDE to be useful? |
| 01:29.28 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; what 'activities feature'? you mean on the menu? i changed that back to the traduitional menu which i prefer |
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| 01:30.00 | tonsofpcs | someone thinks gimp is the best app for something? you realizee the program's name is "gimp", right? |
| 01:30.13 | Bazalkryn | Are you not able to set up your different workspaces with different apps and such, depending on their function? |
| 01:30.48 | boudiccas | i use different desktop for different programs, which makes sense to me |
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| 01:31.18 | Bazalkryn | Yes, I agree that it does make sense to do it that way. |
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| 01:33.07 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; and i hate that 'finding' feature which runs continuoulsy, so i turn it off and just use locate |
| 01:34.23 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas; Good thinking. I think one should be free to turn things on or off on their computer as they see fit. |
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| 01:37.54 | sunscreen2 | http://img690.imageshack.us/i/ballsx.png/ <-- what is causing the transparency issue..intel xorg driver, and i have tried to turn on composite |
| 01:41.59 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas; Thank you very much for putting up with my questions. |
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| 01:42.37 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; np, you've made me think that maybe i should record my kde changes in my blog |
| 01:42.47 | ElCulebras | is back from the dead. Gone 128 hrs 14 min 47 secs |
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| 01:43.44 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas; You have a blog about it? May I read it? |
| 01:44.09 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; sure, google for 'a taste of linux' |
| 01:44.30 | boudiccas | but i've only been using debian for just about 6 weeks |
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| 01:45.05 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas; I will do that. I've been using Debian less than six weeks so you're like an expert. |
| 01:45.20 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; no way jose! :) |
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| 01:47.50 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas; I found your blog. I will certainly read it thoroughly. |
| 01:48.04 | karlpinc | !introduction |
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| 01:48.25 | karlpinc | humm. Looks like the bot is busy. |
| 01:48.38 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; parts are good and parts are crap, such is life :) |
| 01:49.26 | karlpinc | Anyhow, the <introduction> factoid is good if you're new to Debian. Type "/msg dpkg introduction" in your irc program. You might also be interested in http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware |
| 01:49.34 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas; That is true of everything. |
| 01:50.04 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas; Well, thank you again. I will read your blog and leave a comment or two perhaps. |
| 01:50.53 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; i think that the comments are not enabled, i've never managed to work out how to get them working |
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| 01:52.07 | Bazalkryn | boudiccas; Then I guess I won't. :) I see you have an email. I will use that if I have something worthwhile to say. |
| 01:52.26 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; k, np :) |
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| 01:52.50 | boudiccas | Bazalkryn; nn |
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| 02:03.31 | chipotle | so, to make .../sites/all/themes owned by the www-data group, i just want to chgrp -R to www-data, so it gets all the files and directories inside there now, and in the future (when i add files)? |
| 02:04.12 | dondelelcaro | chipotle: you probably want g+s |
| 02:04.24 | dondelelcaro | (on directories) |
| 02:04.48 | chipotle | dondelelcaro: what is g+s? i don't see it in the chgrp man page? |
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| 02:06.01 | dondelelcaro | chipotle: info coreutils 'File permissions' |
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| 02:08.40 | FlexGuy | anybody can help with adding a disk to a raid5 array with mdadm? |
| 02:08.42 | karlpinc | chipotle: Or http://wiki.debian.org/UserPrivateGroups |
| 02:09.27 | karlpinc | FlexGuy: You want to go from raid5 to raid6? |
| 02:09.47 | FlexGuy | no |
| 02:09.52 | karlpinc | FlexGuy: Ok. |
| 02:10.03 | FlexGuy | i neede to reboot the server because my switch was bad ( router) |
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| 02:10.23 | FlexGuy | before rebooting there was a power supply cable removed from a harddrive |
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| 02:10.59 | FlexGuy | i rebooted and the orderof the disk are not good ... I shutdown again and replugged the power supplu cable to the harddrive |
| 02:11.17 | FlexGuy | now trying to mount the array and only 3 /4 |
| 02:11.30 | FlexGuy | im sure because not the good proper order... |
| 02:11.59 | queso | Is there a way I can see a list of the packages that are installed from selecting "Standard system utilities" during a squeeze install? |
| 02:12.05 | FlexGuy | md create r0 ? or maybe u would like see output from fdisk -l or /ect/mdadm.conf |
| 02:12.44 | queso | (And ditto for the other options, e.g., "SSH server" -- it'd be nice to know which server is installed.) |
| 02:13.48 | karlpinc | queso: That's described in the debian policy manual. Every package with a priority <= standard. |
| 02:14.26 | queso | karlpinc: Is it possible to get a list of those packages? Online or in aptitude? |
| 02:14.33 | karlpinc | queso: aptitude can search on priority, but I forget how to do it. You need to look at the search option summary in the (*sigh*) html docs. |
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| 02:15.24 | karlpinc | queso: You'll probably have to read up on tasksel, the program that does the prompting, to see about other choices like ssh. |
| 02:15.49 | Auron | aptitude search ="/" |
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| 02:16.55 | FlexGuy | anybody private or ? |
| 02:17.07 | Bac9 | when trying to open any HTTP page through konqueror there is a 50% chance that "Connection to Server Closed Unexpectedly" is returned, reloading the same page will work, other browsers load all pages fine |
| 02:17.07 | karlpinc | FlexGuy: I don't work with mdadm much and so don't know the details offhand. (You want to ask the channel.) |
| 02:17.18 | FlexGuy | ok |
| 02:17.25 | FlexGuy | thanks anyway |
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| 02:17.37 | queso | karlpinc: Thanks for your help. |
| 02:17.42 | Bac9 | any ideas of how to get konqueror to work properly in testing, this all started after an update a bout a week ago |
| 02:17.58 | karlpinc | FlexGuy: The array should mark the disks with uuid so the order (sda, sdb, etc.) should not be important. |
| 02:18.41 | Bac9 | even when I first start konqeror, the first time it crashes, and if I click to restart it then it launches fine |
| 02:18.44 | FlexGuy | yes thats what i did in th epast |
| 02:19.18 | FlexGuy | yes thanks for my headache who make me lose memory |
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| 02:23.42 | nsadmin | FlexGuy welcoem to the web and browsers |
| 02:24.01 | FlexGuy | lol |
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| 02:35.32 | lahwran | how does dpkg store it's package database? is it specific to dpkg? sqlite? something else? |
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| 02:36.00 | lahwran | and how does apt-get store it's packages.gz caches? |
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| 02:39.41 | jdberkeley | Hey. Anybody had a problem with sound/music skipping/stuttering under Debian 6? I never had similar problems with Debian Lenny! |
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| 02:43.47 | jdberkeley | anybody? |
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| 02:44.35 | bean-java | jdberkeley: what seems to be wrong? |
| 02:44.38 | tharkun | !anybody |
| 02:45.09 | tharkun | !somebody |
| 02:45.35 | asarch | aptitude update: http://paste.debian.net/120011/ |
| 02:45.38 | asarch | What's wrong? |
| 02:45.40 | jdberkeley | bean-java: like I said, whenever I play music (streaming or local) I can hear skipping, it skips a few milliseconds |
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| 02:46.11 | bean-java | Kamping_kaiser: did you notice http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03.html.en at the bottom section 6.3.9......maybe we could figure out something there |
| 02:46.13 | asarch | My /etc/apt/sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/120012/ |
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| 02:46.24 | jdberkeley | bean-java: it happens every 4 to 5 mins |
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| 02:47.02 | bean-java | jdberkeley: did you enable non-free repositories? or the non-free-firmware when you installed your system? |
| 02:47.18 | jdberkeley | bean-java: only free |
| 02:47.35 | asarch | Is there any way to erase all the old keys? |
| 02:47.56 | bean-java | jdberkeley: do you know what your sound card is? |
| 02:48.29 | asarch | apt-key list: http://paste.debian.net/120013/ |
| 02:48.40 | jdberkeley | yes I do, But thats irrelevant since none of this happens under Lenny on the same computer |
| 02:49.50 | bean-java | ok what software are you using to play the music? |
| 02:50.21 | jdberkeley | bean-java: yes I do, But thats irrelevant since none of this happens under Lenny on the same computer. I also have problems with browsers playing flash or HTML5, they freeze. That only happens under Squeeze. Lennt is perfect |
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| 02:50.47 | jdberkeley | rhythmbox and gnome movie player |
| 02:52.32 | bean-java | jdberkeley: ok that is a start, the reason i asked is because of all of the changes between lenny and squeeze we would need to find the change that is causing the hangup. did you install adobe flash or are you running gnash(default) when your on the 'net? |
| 02:52.54 | GinTonicool | double system . i installed debian 2,6,32 first ,then i i installed win7 ,but i cann't load debian when machine starts |
| 02:53.12 | centHOGG | MBR got munged |
| 02:53.28 | jdberkeley | bean-java: it doesnt matter which flash I use. The same thing happens. Its crazy. |
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| 02:53.40 | GinTonicool | how can i find back debian at the condition not reinstalling win7 ? |
| 02:53.55 | jdberkeley | bean-java: even HTML5 (chromium and FF4) |
| 02:54.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: i'll have a look |
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| 02:55.30 | bean-java | jdberkeley: that means it is a system wide problem, have you checked the buglist of your kernel version to see if there is a known bug? |
| 02:56.04 | jdberkeley | bean-java: I havent |
| 02:56.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: are you suggesting finishing the install by network from the users house? |
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| 02:58.59 | bean-java | Kamping_Kaiser: no. my suggestion would be software similar to D-I managing it over ssh. Without the User-Setup parts. But it would be done "at work"......basically what they are talking about at that section |
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| 02:59.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | bean-java: hm, ok. |
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| 03:00.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | creating a generic user during install is easy, its the post install customisation that might be tricky to do (cleanly) |
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| 03:03.43 | GinTonicool | double system . i installed debian 2,6,32 first ,then i i installed win7 ,but i cann't load debian when machine starts |
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| 03:04.12 | GinTonicool | thank you guys |
| 03:05.10 | GinTonicool | how can i make DOUBLE SYSTEM with win7and debian ?thanks a lot |
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| 03:06.44 | gnarface | GinTonicool: you did it in the wrong order; the win7 installer wiped out the master boot record. easiest solution is to get a livecd and fix it |
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| 03:07.46 | GinTonicool | double system . i installed debian 2,6,32 first ,then i i installed win7 ,but i cann't load debian when machine starts |
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| 03:08.04 | jdberkeley | bean-java: where can I find the bug list of linux kernels? Link? |
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| 03:09.19 | GinTonicool | double system . i installed debian 2,6,32 first ,then i i installed win7 ,but i cann't load debian when machine starts ! tell me in privacy please ,maybe i'm away sothat i can receive your answers ,thank a lot ! |
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| 03:15.27 | GinTonicool | double system . i installed debian 2,6,32 first ,then i i installed win7 ,but i cann't load debian when machine starts ! tell me in privacy please ,maybe i'm away sothat i can receive your answers ,thank a lot ! |
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| 03:16.55 | Dimenxion | you should install win first before debian |
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| 03:17.22 | Dimenxion | if u install debian then win 7, load back debian disc and install boot loader |
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| 03:19.23 | bean-java | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=linux-image-2.6-686 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=linux-image-2.6-486 |
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| 03:19.52 | bean-java | er....previous post for jdberkeley |
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| 03:21.12 | bean-java | jdberkely: i know that didn't help much but it the best i can send you too. |
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| 03:32.49 | smugglerinc | I found that 'gnome-screensaver-command -a' Allows me to lock the computer screen. I needed to write my own acpi scripts and I would like this command ran when I close the laptop on AC power. What would be the proper syntax to hook that command to the running x session? |
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| 03:36.28 | bean-java | smugglerinc: You shouldn't need to do that. Check your power profiles. |
| 03:36.44 | smugglerinc | I am having to rewrite my power profiles. |
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| 03:37.03 | smugglerinc | bean-java: The gnome-powermanager was causing my system to be unstable. |
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| 03:38.15 | bean-java | smugglerinc: did you file a bug report? |
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| 03:38.55 | smugglerinc | bean-java: Nope, seems isolated to this configuration. |
| 03:39.40 | bean-java | smugglerinc: it could be an isolated symptom of a bug. |
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| 03:45.13 | Rusty1 | dunno if laptop-mode-tools might be apropos |
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| 03:49.19 | smugglerinc | Rusty1: Thanks Ill check there. |
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| 03:57.41 | smugglerinc | Rusty1: laptop-mode-tools Doesn't seem to exist. |
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| 03:59.22 | k-man | can you upgrade from etch directly to squeeze? |
| 03:59.50 | smugglerinc | k-man: I do not believe that would be the best of ideas. But you might be able to. |
| 04:00.12 | gnarface | k-man: you are likely to end up with a broken package tree |
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| 04:00.20 | k-man | ok |
| 04:00.27 | k-man | safest to go via lenny first? |
| 04:00.32 | gnarface | absolutely |
| 04:00.38 | k-man | ok |
| 04:01.02 | gnarface | read the release notes! |
| 04:01.14 | gnarface | migration manual |
| 04:01.17 | gnarface | or whatever they call it |
| 04:01.25 | smugglerinc | I would that that safest would be to just wipe the root and try again. I never have had luck upgrading from one to the other. |
| 04:01.33 | smugglerinc | after backing up home of course >_> |
| 04:01.46 | k-man | yeah, might do that too |
| 04:02.03 | smugglerinc | Back up home regardless! |
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| 04:02.54 | k-man | yes |
| 04:02.56 | k-man | thanks |
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| 04:05.59 | smugglerinc | Would anyone know what would be an appropriate command to lock the screen from an acpi script? |
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| 04:10.57 | smugglerinc | Would anyone know what would be an appropriate command to lock the screen from an acpi script? |
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| 04:11.02 | Jef91 | Anyone know why a system with open ssh server running on a local network would refuse a connection from another system on the same network? |
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| 04:11.49 | smugglerinc | jef91: Have you confirmed the port? |
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| 04:12.17 | gnarface | Jef91: have you tried -v ? |
| 04:12.19 | centHOGG | 22 |
| 04:12.52 | gnarface | Jef91: also you might want to look into nmap if this is your own network or if you are inclined to be abusive |
| 04:13.07 | smugglerinc | jef91: The auth log might show something. |
| 04:13.48 | smugglerinc | jef91: Or messages if it is a issue with the server starting. |
| 04:13.50 | centHOGG | nmap -sT localhost |
| 04:14.01 | Jef91 | tried what with -v gnarface |
| 04:14.18 | smugglerinc | Logging in I would imagine |
| 04:14.21 | gnarface | Jef91: add -v to your ssh command for when you try to connect |
| 04:14.32 | gnarface | Jef91: that will output verbosely |
| 04:14.40 | smugglerinc | Assuming you are trying to connect from a linux machine |
| 04:14.52 | gnarface | or a mac |
| 04:14.57 | Jef91 | linux to linux |
| 04:14.57 | gnarface | or a bsd box |
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| 04:15.14 | gnarface | irix |
| 04:15.18 | Jef91 | http://pastebin.com/UE0juBn9 |
| 04:15.21 | smugglerinc | non windows machine |
| 04:15.47 | Jef91 | thats the output |
| 04:15.48 | Jef91 | with -v |
| 04:15.52 | smugglerinc | I would check if root login was disabled. |
| 04:15.56 | gnarface | Jef91: now pastebin the output of nmap 192.168.1.104 |
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| 04:16.28 | gnarface | Jef91: (you might want to run nmap as root) |
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| 04:18.11 | Jef91 | nmap gnarface - http://pastebin.com/EHxQGSm1 |
| 04:20.11 | gnarface | Jef91: looks like ssh is not up or at least is blocked to you |
| 04:20.48 | smugglerinc | what is the output of 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh status'? |
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| 04:21.22 | gnarface | smugglerinc: you mean for him to get that info from 192.168.1.104? |
| 04:21.29 | smugglerinc | Ah yes |
| 04:21.49 | gnarface | Jef91: you don't have direct console access to 192.168.1.104 do you? |
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| 04:25.53 | smugglerinc | Would anyone know what would be an appropriate command to lock the screen from an acpi script? |
| 04:27.04 | gnarface | smugglerinc: you mean like xlock? |
| 04:27.21 | gnarface | smugglerinc: or do you mean like with xscreensaver? |
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| 04:27.49 | smugglerinc | I'm running gnome, would xlock lock the gnome session? |
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| 04:28.23 | smugglerinc | Ah, no I mean wiht the screensaver |
| 04:28.29 | gnarface | well yes, xlock works at the X level |
| 04:28.53 | gnarface | smugglerinc: what are you trying to accomplish, specifically |
| 04:28.53 | smugglerinc | apropos only shows xlockdisplay |
| 04:28.55 | gnarface | ? |
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| 04:29.37 | smugglerinc | When I close my laptop and it is on AC power I would like the screen to lock so that you need to put the password in to resume use |
| 04:29.55 | smugglerinc | similiar to 'gnome-screensaver-command -l' |
| 04:30.33 | somiaj | smugglerinc: there is a button event that gets sent via ACPI to inform the machine the laptop is closed. I belive you can set up acpi to run any script you want on that event |
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| 04:31.22 | gnarface | smugglerinc: i would think that you should be able to both configure xscreensaver (or gnome screensaver or whatever you have) to both start by command and to require a password by default. |
| 04:31.59 | smugglerinc | somiaj: That is the issue, I have the script written to check the lid state and the battery state, but I need the command that will lock the current logged in users session. |
| 04:32.05 | gnarface | smugglerinc: acpi events, check into those too for sure |
| 04:32.23 | smugglerinc | gnarface: I shall look into it xscreensaver |
| 04:33.03 | somiaj | smugglerinc: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_acpid -- you can bind the /etc/acpi/events/lid to an action |
| 04:33.05 | smugglerinc | I tested that the acpi script gets called properly though touch. |
| 04:33.12 | gnarface | smugglerinc: i'm almost certain it can be configured to require a password, amongst other things. if not, then check xlockmore and xlockmore-gl instead |
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| 04:33.33 | smugglerinc | I shall do that then. |
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| 04:34.30 | smugglerinc | would xscreensaver replace gnome-screensaver? |
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| 04:34.47 | gnarface | smugglerinc: i'm sorry i do not know |
| 04:34.54 | smugglerinc | Alright. Thanks mate |
| 04:35.22 | gnarface | np |
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| 04:36.10 | blackshirt | :d |
| 04:36.59 | Jef91 | gnarface sorry for the delay - yes I have direct access to the console on 192.168.1.104 |
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| 04:38.33 | smugglerinc | jef91: Excellent, What does 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh status' return when ran on 192.168.1.104? |
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| 04:40.26 | Jef91 | could not access PID file for sshd ... Failed! |
| 04:41.00 | un214 | hmm is /var/run missing? |
| 04:41.47 | smugglerinc | That narrows the issue down to a likely startup problem. |
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| 04:42.24 | Jef91 | how do i start the ssh server manually then? |
| 04:42.34 | un214 | sshd |
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| 04:43.32 | Jef91 | requires excution with an absolute path |
| 04:43.46 | smugglerinc | /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 04:43.51 | smugglerinc | try that |
| 04:44.02 | un214 | /usr/sbin/sshd will start it then |
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| 04:45.12 | Jef91 | that did the trick smugglerinc! |
| 04:45.25 | smugglerinc | Excellent. |
| 04:45.27 | Jef91 | One last question - can I transfer files via ssh? |
| 04:45.32 | smugglerinc | No |
| 04:45.40 | smugglerinc | But sshd starts a sftp server |
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| 04:45.53 | un214 | I transfer via ssh all the time |
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| 04:46.02 | Jef91 | how do I do it un214? |
| 04:46.06 | somiaj | Jef91: scp file(s) server:/loc |
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| 04:46.23 | somiaj | Jef91: man scp (secure copy) |
| 04:46.24 | un214 | ssh user@host cd /path/to/location \&\& tar -cf - * | tar -xf - |
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| 04:46.45 | smugglerinc | Thats good to know |
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| 04:47.44 | wols_ | Jef91: use fileizilla as the client and use "sftp" as the protocol. easy to use GUI client. if you only have console, you need to use something like scp |
| 04:48.43 | Jef91 | got it |
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| 04:48.47 | Jef91 | thanks wols_ |
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| 04:51.27 | wols_ | Jef91: lftp has sftp support too. lftp sftp://username@host much more friendly than scp |
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| 04:51.54 | Jef91 | filezilla is my poison of choice with regards to FTP |
| 04:51.57 | Jef91 | easy interface |
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| 04:53.25 | smugglerinc | gnarface: Replacing gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver seems to have done the trick! Thanks mate! |
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| 05:21.53 | chichimeka | Hi, I have a 'fresh install' with squezee but i haven't sound. Could you help me? |
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| 06:05.36 | ^_^Johan | hi, i have a server. installed and running apache. one lan card and one network card for public ip. when both card is up. I cannot access the page, just loading. in the end, no message will display. if I stop the lancard (ifdown). it will show the page. i need a lancard to function, please help. |
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| 06:07.22 | yagoo | ^_^Johan, sounds like you're not asking a question |
| 06:07.35 | ^_^Johan | oops |
| 06:07.50 | yagoo | I don't see a question mark anywhere |
| 06:08.31 | yagoo | You asking what network cards work with linux? |
| 06:08.40 | ^_^Johan | I need also the lan card to access the databse inside my network. |
| 06:08.58 | yagoo | ^_^Johan, realteak 8139 network cards are fine |
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| 06:09.59 | kramotaq | what is the different between lan card and network card ^_^Johan ? |
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| 06:10.19 | onebitxajax | hi to all |
| 06:10.25 | kramotaq | hi |
| 06:10.28 | onebitxajax | i don't have cd/dvd and my pc don't run usb |
| 06:10.36 | onebitxajax | is there method to install from iso? |
| 06:10.40 | kramotaq | mount through network |
| 06:10.44 | yagoo | onebitxajax, netboot? |
| 06:10.46 | yagoo | !netboot |
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| 06:11.08 | onebitxajax | i don't have another pc |
| 06:11.16 | gnugr | !usb install |
| 06:11.20 | ^_^Johan | i just gave it a name. lan for my private network, the other one for my public ip |
| 06:11.26 | onebitxajax | i don't have boot from usb |
| 06:11.36 | kramotaq | ^_^Johan, perhaps you should try to access via localhost |
| 06:11.48 | yagoo | onebitxajax, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootPXE |
| 06:11.49 | kramotaq | than put the ip up |
| 06:11.56 | onebitxajax | there is'nt any command like knoppix bootfrom? |
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| 06:12.11 | yagoo | oh u dont have another pc |
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| 06:12.23 | onebitxajax | with knoppix in grub i put the bootfrom=/knoppix.iso |
| 06:12.33 | yagoo | umm. how u gonna boot anything |
| 06:12.38 | onebitxajax | is there the same with debian? |
| 06:12.41 | yagoo | onebitxajax, #knoppix |
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| 06:12.54 | yagoo | there's debian live cds.. if this what u mean |
| 06:13.08 | onebitxajax | yagoo no i don't need it |
| 06:13.18 | ^_^Johan | in my LAN, everything is normal. I can see the page. if the two network card is UP. |
| 06:13.20 | onebitxajax | i am talking about booting from iso |
| 06:13.35 | yagoo | thats grub2.. iso loopback boot from a usb.. |
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| 06:13.51 | onebitxajax | with knoppix and ubuntu and other dist, you can boot and install from iso |
| 06:13.56 | yagoo | i dont know if u can do it from internal drives.. u'll have to #grub |
| 06:13.59 | tyler` | onebitxajax, what media is the iso on |
| 06:13.59 | onebitxajax | i want to know if there is the same with debian |
| 06:14.13 | yagoo | onebitxajax, the kernels support it. |
| 06:14.23 | onebitxajax | tyler` hd |
| 06:14.35 | onebitxajax | yagoo i thing that is initrd staff |
| 06:14.36 | kramotaq | ^_^Johan, perhaps firewall preventing you from accessing through public ip |
| 06:14.40 | kramotaq | or you are behind nat |
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| 06:15.10 | yagoo | onebitxajax, not nec.. there has to be support of the kern for that.. so um.. u'll have to experiment/google find out |
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| 06:15.33 | onebitxajax | yagoo i already search for it on google without result :( |
| 06:15.42 | yagoo | linux stock kernel has the ability.. but it may not be on for all kernel compiles for all the distro |
| 06:15.57 | tyler` | onebitxajax, couldnt you just download a minimal boot image onto the hd and add the directory perimeter to grub |
| 06:16.07 | tyler` | its been a while so i may be missing something obvious |
| 06:16.09 | yagoo | onebitxajax, wrong place.. u want knoppix? u should ask #knoppix.. |
| 06:16.17 | tyler` | im pretty sure hes using debian though? |
| 06:16.45 | onebitxajax | yagoo I want debian, i am asking #debian to how can i install it!! |
| 06:17.08 | onebitxajax | i don't have usb boot, and don'y have cd/dvd |
| 06:17.08 | yagoo | onebitxajax, download the iso and strap it to grub2's iso loopback boot |
| 06:17.18 | onebitxajax | yes after yhat? |
| 06:17.27 | onebitxajax | i already did it without success |
| 06:17.28 | ^_^Johan | kramotaq, yes if I stop the lan using ifdown. i can access my website. |
| 06:17.40 | kramotaq | onebitxajax: did you try this : http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net |
| 06:17.40 | yagoo | http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB |
| 06:17.43 | yagoo | (sample) |
| 06:17.49 | yagoo | onebitxajax, ^ |
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| 06:18.02 | kramotaq | just download the iso to your hdd, partition and install with unetbootin |
| 06:18.10 | kramotaq | u don't need usb / dvd |
| 06:18.48 | kramotaq | ^_^Johan, perhaps you're under nat |
| 06:19.46 | yagoo | onebitxajax, there's also um.. debian.exe.. (loopback on ntfs).. this doesnt require any partitioning of ur system |
| 06:19.49 | onebitxajax | yagoo it's work with iso-scan/filename directive , but there isn't with debian |
| 06:19.53 | yagoo | (but the debian will run slower) |
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| 06:20.22 | yagoo | onebitxajax, that site mentions debian.. so i'm guessing people have done it |
| 06:20.32 | onebitxajax | kramotaq it' make bootable usb, i don't have usb boot |
| 06:20.50 | kramotaq | ^_^Johan, just suggestion, Don't put your public web server on your internal network, if you can avoid it. |
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| 06:21.21 | yagoo | onebitxajax, what system are u using now? |
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| 06:21.43 | onebitxajax | it's 10 year old |
| 06:21.49 | onebitxajax | buyed in 1999 |
| 06:21.56 | yagoo | onebitxajax, Operating System |
| 06:21.59 | gnarface | is there a standard X way to control window position of a window that's already opened or placed at a certain position, or is that 100% the window manager? |
| 06:22.02 | simonlnu | bought |
| 06:22.11 | onebitxajax | Ubuntu, now windows xp pro |
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| 06:22.23 | yagoo | gnarface, X server has nothing to do with window management |
| 06:22.48 | onebitxajax | ok a will try |
| 06:22.54 | onebitxajax | yagoo see you later |
| 06:22.59 | onebitxajax | and thansk for help |
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| 06:23.11 | Bushmills | gnarface: there is a utility program named xwit |
| 06:23.11 | yagoo | onebitxajax, u can try debian.exe |
| 06:23.34 | yagoo | oh wait.. |
| 06:23.39 | yagoo | onebitxajax, u can boot into ubuntu or not? |
| 06:23.51 | onebitxajax | yagoo no |
| 06:23.53 | yagoo | onebitxajax, then u can just download the iso and use grub2's menuentry |
| 06:23.55 | onebitxajax | because i format it |
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| 06:24.12 | onebitxajax | i have installed grub24dos under windows xp |
| 06:24.19 | yagoo | onebitxajax, right now you are boot into what? |
| 06:24.28 | onebitxajax | windows xp |
| 06:24.37 | yagoo | onebitxajax, how many partitions are there? |
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| 06:24.46 | onebitxajax | mmm 4 |
| 06:24.47 | yagoo | onebitxajax, if there's just 1.. u can try the debian.exe |
| 06:25.04 | yagoo | onebitxajax, linux needs just 2.. for easiest setups: one for "/" and one for swap |
| 06:25.11 | onebitxajax | i have 2 hd one with 2 partition the second with 5 |
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| 06:25.40 | onebitxajax | i alredy format the second for linux 1 p0artition for swap and the other for / |
| 06:25.56 | yagoo | onebitxajax, how much space is for "/" ? |
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| 06:26.35 | yagoo | onebitxajax, u can try booting the second drive from bios rather than touching the first drive.. |
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| 06:26.50 | Bushmills | onebitxajax: debian netinst iso can be booted from grub |
| 06:27.32 | onebitxajax | I will do this: |
| 06:27.43 | onebitxajax | download initr ùlinux gfrom net boot |
| 06:27.51 | onebitxajax | and try to boot iso debian |
| 06:27.55 | onebitxajax | if noty success |
| 06:28.02 | onebitxajax | i will boot mini.iso and install |
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| 06:28.58 | yagoo | ? |
| 06:29.09 | ^_^Johan | kramotaq ok thanks. |
| 06:29.16 | onebitxajax | I will use http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ |
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| 06:29.23 | onebitxajax | to try booting debian iso |
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| 06:29.44 | yagoo | onebitxajax, ask in #grub |
| 06:30.08 | onebitxajax | ok |
| 06:30.19 | yagoo | onebitxajax, dunno though.. u said grub4dos |
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| 06:33.30 | Obligatory | "One does not bow in the dark". Bye. |
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| 06:49.13 | dz2 | how can i tell if i am running a 32 bit kernel? |
| 06:49.41 | ompaul | uname -a will tell you |
| 06:49.55 | ompaul | what does it say |
| 06:50.42 | dz2 | Linux Palatinus 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Jan 27 00:28:05 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 06:50.47 | ompaul | 32bit |
| 06:50.57 | dz2 | how do you know? |
| 06:51.01 | ompaul | 686 |
| 06:51.08 | dz2 | ok ta |
| 06:51.11 | kramotaq | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 06:51.13 | kramotaq | uname -m |
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| 07:04.45 | factor | How is it done to make Sun Java the default java? |
| 07:05.44 | sep | use the command update-java-alternatives |
| 07:07.02 | factor | sep how can I set it for a user? |
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| 07:10.22 | sep | factor, I have no idea. if google does not share any wisdom. i would have looked at the links that update-java-alternatives are making. and making my own links in ~/bin and making sure they are first in the path |
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| 07:10.41 | factor | just trying to install the bin under root |
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| 07:15.15 | wols_ | factor: update-java-alternatives |
| 07:15.38 | wols_ | oops. should have read the full log :) |
| 07:15.56 | factor | vols_ yes I know , was wondering how to specifically set it to user |
| 07:15.59 | factor | :) |
| 07:16.07 | factor | just logged in under root |
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| 07:33.54 | fips4d | re |
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| 07:34.18 | fips4d | what's the easiest way to generate a older (backported) version of a source deb? |
| 07:34.31 | fips4d | s/a older/an older/ |
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| 07:50.04 | q_a_z_steve | Hey, so I don't understand something about the linux ping command, I am using -f, should my screen fill up with '.'s or not? Either way it reports 0% packet loss??? |
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| 07:50.30 | q_a_z_steve | I do have some dots, and still 0%??? |
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| 07:52.12 | fips4d | q_a_z_steve: so what? |
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| 07:52.52 | q_a_z_steve | fips4d: which should it be, no dots, or a ton of dots? |
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| 07:53.29 | fips4d | q_a_z_steve: man ping |
| 07:53.49 | q_a_z_steve | I did, but I'm still confused. How do you think I found the switch? |
| 07:54.23 | q_a_z_steve | If it's so obvious, then why can't you tell me which I will have? |
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| 07:54.47 | fips4d | ah, wait, if all pings are answered, the dots should get backspaced...sry! ;) |
| 07:55.03 | q_a_z_steve | Or why, if everything's working for over 42490000ms then why I have some dots? |
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| 07:55.23 | fips4d | q_a_z_steve: dunno, sorry |
| 07:55.25 | q_a_z_steve | 0% loss, and about a line's worth of dots on my screen |
| 07:56.12 | q_a_z_steve | thanks anyway |
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| 08:04.36 | jelly-home | q_a_z_steve: assuming there was a ping every 100ms, that's 430000 pings and 80 dots, less than 0.05% |
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| 08:06.29 | q_a_z_steve | Good point, will adjust interval. |
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| 08:10.24 | q_a_z_steve | jelly-home: actually I think default for -f is 1s between sending... So maybe if I'd given it a little longer it would have rounded up to 0.5%? |
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| 08:11.53 | jelly-home | q_a_z_steve: unlikely |
| 08:12.26 | q_a_z_steve | hmm, well either way I'll see if bumping a few things gives better output |
| 08:12.44 | q_a_z_steve | thanks |
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| 08:13.05 | jelly-home | better? You connection is fine |
| 08:13.37 | jelly-home | unlike my typing |
| 08:13.39 | q_a_z_steve | not convinced. I've had to rebuild drivers and ports to this printer on three different computers more than once. |
| 08:14.50 | jelly-home | losing 100 packets in a half-day flood (ping -f as root sends LOTS of packets) is negligible |
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| 08:16.32 | q_a_z_steve | what would you suspect then? |
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| 08:17.20 | q_a_z_steve | it's got to be something with the printer... Different OS's on the boxes too, all MSFT but still |
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| 08:18.46 | q_a_z_steve | also once on user can't print I believe no one else can until I come back in and redo stuff all over again. |
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| 08:20.00 | q_a_z_steve | jelly-home: ^^ |
| 08:20.19 | avernos | hello, can someone tell me what package do i need to install to get all the basic tools under gnome? |
| 08:20.35 | avernos | i just installed, but i dont have any tool to configure the system |
| 08:20.38 | oldirty | avernos: basic tools for ? |
| 08:20.45 | avernos | networking, users... etc |
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| 08:20.53 | avernos | my admin menu is empty |
| 08:21.03 | avernos | administration menu that is |
| 08:21.04 | oldirty | avernos: are you logged in as the admin user? |
| 08:21.08 | avernos | there is just a login screen |
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| 08:21.21 | avernos | oldirty, i hope so, how can i check that? |
| 08:21.45 | avernos | or how can i make my self a admin? |
| 08:21.54 | oldirty | when you logged in, did you log in as root or as your unprivileged user? |
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| 08:22.14 | avernos | i logged in as the user created in the isntalation, wont let me log in with root |
| 08:22.30 | avernos | i mean, login with root to gnome |
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| 08:23.45 | avernos | oldirty, can you give me some pointers? |
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| 08:28.14 | avernos | what group should i add to my user to be a admin user? is it adm or lpadmin ? |
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| 08:30.02 | jpinx-away | I got squeeze installed but I need to get a connection through my Nokia n900 USB link to it's gprs. How should I do that? |
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| 08:30.58 | soulthreads | jpinx-away, blueman+network-manager? Or just rfcomm+wvdial (or even ppp). |
| 08:31.15 | soulthreads | oh, sorry. |
| 08:31.28 | soulthreads | jpinx-away, do you have NM installed? |
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| 08:31.42 | jpinx-away | soulthreads: no idea |
| 08:32.53 | jpinx-away | dpkg -l does not list it |
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| 08:33.24 | soulthreads | jpinx-away, network-manager-gnome. |
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| 08:34.18 | jpinx-away | soulthreads: no |
| 08:34.22 | soulthreads | jpinx-away, well, what 'ls /dev/ttyACM*' says? |
| 08:35.06 | soulthreads | when your nokia is connected. |
| 08:35.55 | soulthreads | or, maybe, /dev/ttyUSB* |
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| 08:39.07 | fips4d | what's the easiest way to generate an older (backported) version of a source deb? |
| 08:39.21 | eliasson_ | Hey! I've greated a RAID5 using mdadm and encrypted the entire volume using luksFormat. Now; Is there something I should save on external media for security reasons in case the system becomes corrupted and/or the system disk crashes? |
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| 08:39.56 | jpinx-away | soulthreads: both sy no such file... etc |
| 08:39.59 | eliasson_ | For example 'cat /proc/mdstat' output or similar. |
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| 08:40.45 | wols_ | fips4d: do you have the debian package source for the software you want? |
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| 08:41.55 | jpinx | soulthreads: and there appears to be nothing happening when I plug other usb things in, like usb sticks |
| 08:44.07 | soulthreads | jpinx, 'lsusb' |
| 08:44.56 | fips4d | wols_: yes |
| 08:45.04 | jpinx | command not found |
| 08:45.59 | jpinx | soulthreads: I have CD1 of the install for squeeze downloaded |
| 08:46.13 | soulthreads | jpinx, you need 'usbutils' package. |
| 08:46.34 | soulthreads | It should be on this CD, afaik. |
| 08:47.41 | jpinx | the cd is copied onto an SD cardd. I am using an eeepc notebook |
| 08:48.58 | soulthreads | jpinx, and you can't mount it? |
| 08:49.31 | jpinx | apt-get install usbutils gives "bus error" |
| 08:49.44 | soulthreads | omg. |
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| 08:52.34 | jpinx | soulthreads: what? |
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| 08:53.18 | soulthreads | jpinx, sorry, I think I can't help in this situation... |
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| 08:53.53 | wols_ | fips4d: in the direcotry where the sourc eunpacked, run dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 08:55.07 | wols_ | fips4d: /msg dpkg ssb basically you don't have to get the source package from sid but from anyplace you want |
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| 08:56.34 | eliasson_ | Hey! I've greated a RAID5 using mdadm and encrypted the entire volume using luksFormat. Now; Is there something I should save on external media for security reasons in case the system becomes corrupted and/or the system disk crashes? |
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| 08:56.38 | eliasson_ | For example 'cat /proc/mdstat' output or similar. |
| 08:56.43 | seanp2k | is python2.6 on backports? |
| 08:56.54 | seanp2k | or like, what would be the easiest way to get python 2.6 on etch? |
| 08:57.18 | wols_ | upgrade to lenny |
| 08:57.22 | wols_ | ,versions python |
| 08:57.23 | judd | Package python on i386 -- lenny: 2.5.2-3; squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze6; sid: 2.6.6-14; wheezy: 2.6.6-14; experimental: 2.7.2-1 |
| 08:57.30 | seanp2k | wols_: uhh |
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| 08:57.48 | seanp2k | wols_: that seems pretty removed from easy :) |
| 08:57.53 | wols_ | etch isn't supported anymore in any way. it's a goner. lenny will be update for another 9 months or so |
| 08:58.32 | wols_ | you can simply install python for your own stuff. just make sure the debian software you use doesn't see this python. ie, don't replace the standard debian python or all the debian packages depending on it will break |
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| 09:00.19 | wols_ | seanp2k: unless you are running under VPS or such, upgrading to at least lenny is a no brainer imho |
| 09:00.36 | jpinx | soulthreads: ok thanks |
| 09:01.39 | wols_ | you get an usb error when installing packages? |
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| 09:02.40 | jpinx-away | wols_: you talking to me? |
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| 09:05.16 | oobe | dpkg is offline |
| 09:05.19 | oobe | oh well |
| 09:05.41 | oobe | I remember when it used to give a link to somthing cool but it wont do that anymore |
| 09:05.47 | wols_ | jpinx-away: yes :) |
| 09:06.19 | wols_ | oobe: define "something cool" |
| 09:06.35 | wols_ | oobe: apt has most of the database dpkg has, btw |
| 09:06.35 | jpinx | wols_: I am now getting IO error for halt :( |
| 09:06.36 | oobe | nah i wont i could get in trouble |
| 09:06.46 | oobe | its probably why it was removed |
| 09:06.56 | wols_ | oobe: /msg apt <stuff> just try |
| 09:07.07 | oobe | it was a humourous definition of the many uses of a certain expletive |
| 09:07.08 | wols_ | and when it ever was on dpkg, you cannot get in trouble for it, at least not here |
| 09:07.25 | oobe | was a wav file |
| 09:07.29 | wols_ | yes, lots of that was removed sadly. damn PCers :( |
| 09:07.45 | oobe | and it spent ages going over that various uses for such a word |
| 09:07.52 | fips4d | wols_: the point is that i'd need an earlier version of that package, also with older versions of some dependencies |
| 09:07.54 | oobe | noun pro noun adjective |
| 09:07.55 | wols_ | jpinx: press reset (the nonexistent reset on that netbook...) |
| 09:07.59 | seanp2k | wols_: no brainer in terms of ease of upgrade or choice TO upgrade? |
| 09:08.06 | oobe | to express anger surprise etc. |
| 09:08.14 | oobe | was quite funny |
| 09:08.18 | seanp2k | wols_: I mean I could reinstall this, sure, but that'd be a day in itself |
| 09:08.20 | wols_ | fips4d: archive.debian.net archive.debian.org |
| 09:08.26 | simonlnu | there's a swf file with the word |
| 09:08.39 | simonlnu | with what you're describing |
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| 09:08.50 | jpinx | wols that'll be hold the pwr button for 5secs |
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| 09:10.02 | jpinx | manages to boot the eeepc back into XP |
| 09:10.07 | simonlnu | kinda like what i have to do with the imac because it doesn't have the right kind of keyboard |
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| 09:11.29 | oobe | apt, wanking |
| 09:11.30 | apt | wanking is, like, fun |
| 09:11.42 | oobe | yay |
| 09:12.26 | oobe | simonlnu, do you know where i can find that swf file? |
| 09:12.28 | simonlnu | was thinking of another word... |
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| 09:13.01 | oobe | no i know the word u meant |
| 09:13.05 | oobe | it was what i meant too |
| 09:13.06 | simonlnu | starts with f |
| 09:13.13 | oobe | yes the f word |
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| 09:13.37 | simonlnu | google might turn it up, otherwise i'll pass you an uri |
| 09:13.59 | oobe | yay i found the mp3 |
| 09:14.08 | oobe | which is exactly what i wanted |
| 09:14.18 | fips4d | wols_: it's a package that is available for squeeze but not for lenny, and i'd need to compile it for lenny with it's dependencies provided |
| 09:14.18 | oobe | i didnt think i would be able to find it |
| 09:14.28 | oobe | i always used dpkg to show me a link |
| 09:14.54 | oobe | http://www.sigg3.net/myself/fuck.html |
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| 09:15.03 | wols_ | fips4d: then get it frm squeeze and compile it. if the lenny dependencies don't work, you have to get the squeeze dependencies and compile those first until all are satsified |
| 09:15.09 | simonlnu | oobe: mind me /msging you? |
| 09:15.26 | oobe | no |
| 09:15.27 | wols_ | fips4d: stuff like say, libc6 you can ignreo with dependencies. but others your might need. always depends what it depends on |
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| 09:16.43 | wols_ | seanp2k: easier to upgrade debian than only python, cause if you upgrade python only something will usually break horribly :( |
| 09:16.59 | fips4d | wols_: that's why i need an older version instead of those on squeeze, since it doesn't work with lenny's libc6 anymore! ;) |
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| 09:18.02 | jpinx | wols_: I am trying to get my eeepc instal completed from the copy of CD1 on the SD card, and then connect via the n900 mobile phones gprs |
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| 09:18.37 | lwithers | hi, when I try to use the CUPS web interface to clean my printer's print heads, I get an error message "Unsupported format 'application/vnd.cups-command'!". Does anybody have any clue how I should go about fixing this? |
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| 09:18.58 | wols_ | fips4d: does debian say it needs the libc6 or do you actually know it needs a new libc6? |
| 09:19.24 | meLon | I have added a .bashrc file to my new debian squeeze installation. I have to run 'source ~/.bashrc' in order for it to work. Any suggestions on making this load every time I log in ? |
| 09:19.40 | wols_ | jpinx: are you installing TO the SD card or FROM the SD card, or BOTH? |
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| 09:20.03 | wols_ | meLon: is it permissioned as executable? |
| 09:20.05 | jpinx | wols_: from |
| 09:20.50 | meLon | -rwxr-xr-x 1 melon melon 2.0K Jun 15 04:16 .bashrc wols_ |
| 09:21.04 | wols_ | jpinx: copy over the contents to /var/cache/apt/archives and install it from there? |
| 09:21.18 | fips4d | wols_: it's actually needed, since lenny's libc6-dev miss a header |
| 09:21.48 | wols_ | meLon: mine is not executable -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 1834 Jul 6 2005 .bashrc |
| 09:22.04 | wols_ | fips4d: compile it statically. inside a chroot or such |
| 09:22.40 | meLon | wols_, Giving it your permissions does nothing ;_; |
| 09:23.16 | lwithers | meLon, check out the "INVOCATION" section in "man bash". I think you might need to source .bashrc from .bash_profile |
| 09:23.16 | wols_ | meLon: it's for non-login shells btw |
| 09:23.33 | wols_ | # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells. |
| 09:23.37 | meLon | I don't have .bash_profile, lwithers |
| 09:23.44 | lwithers | feel free to create one |
| 09:23.44 | wols_ | meLon: then create itr |
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| 09:24.03 | meLon | lwithers, wols_ Thank you |
| 09:24.17 | meLon | echo "source ~/.bashrc" > ~/.bash_profile Solved my problem |
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| 09:25.05 | jpinx | wols_: on plugin the SD Syslog shows it as sde, lsbusb shows it correctly, but cfdisk does not and I can not mount it |
| 09:25.41 | wols_ | imho SD cards are shit. I have one which doesn't work in desktp (others work fine) it works on my laptop however without ever a problem |
| 09:25.56 | wols_ | most likely a fault of the reader/sd card combo |
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| 09:26.45 | jpinx | remember its vfat :/ |
| 09:26.49 | lwithers | SD cards are indeed rubbish: https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/Kernel/Projects/FlashCardSurvey |
| 09:27.13 | lwithers | cfdisk won't open it if the partition table isn't valid (is it in superfloppy format?) |
| 09:27.38 | jpinx | dunno |
| 09:27.55 | jpinx | it is mounted now :) |
| 09:27.59 | wols_ | jpinx: at least the kernel should show it. when you plug it in, the kernel needs to acknowledge it as sdb or such |
| 09:28.03 | wols_ | gz :( |
| 09:28.12 | wols_ | oops: :) rather |
| 09:28.21 | jpinx | heh |
| 09:28.32 | fips4d | wols_: this wouldn't solve the problem of the missing header...;) |
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| 09:28.40 | jpinx | mounted but cfdisk does not see it |
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| 09:29.55 | wols_ | fips4d: it does. you get the libc6 from squeeze inside your chroot and use it to compile the package but link libc6 statically. then you have this single package using squeeze libc6 and the rest of your system all pristine lenny |
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| 09:30.45 | wols_ | downside is obscene file sizes for the backported package, but who cares? |
| 09:31.05 | jpinx | copies the whole installSD card onto the whirly-drive |
| 09:31.09 | wols_ | fips4d: of course the question is, if it's not easier to upgrade to squeeze :) |
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| 09:31.46 | wols_ | fips4d: remember, in 9 months you have to do it anways... |
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| 09:34.06 | ayambit | I have a box with 2 disks, on 1st is my working system, on second debian lenny is restored from tar. Second disk has one partition which is mounted on /mnt. |
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| 09:34.20 | ayambit | Now, I want to install grub on the second disk. |
| 09:34.24 | ayambit | I did it all right. |
| 09:34.35 | ayambit | Now I need to generate config for it. |
| 09:34.55 | wols_ | ayambit: chroot into it and run "update-grub" then it will be made automatically |
| 09:35.22 | ayambit | wols_: cloned system is with grub1 |
| 09:35.25 | ayambit | and I installed grub2 |
| 09:35.48 | wols_ | ,versions grub2 |
| 09:35.49 | judd | Package grub2 on i386 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16; lenny-backports: 1.97~beta3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14; wheezy: 1.99-6; sid: 1.99-7 |
| 09:35.53 | fips4d | wols_: rofl..np! :) |
| 09:36.04 | ayambit | hmm |
| 09:36.06 | ayambit | I'll try |
| 09:36.13 | wols_ | ayambit: lenny has both grub1 and 2 |
| 09:36.37 | wols_ | fips4d: and for LXC to work you need a new libc6? |
| 09:38.00 | fips4d | wols_: try it out, compile lxc>0.6.5 under debian<squeeze |
| 09:38.48 | ayambit | wols_: My working system is debian squeeze. |
| 09:39.32 | ayambit | And after I chrooted I found that I don't have grub-update. |
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| 09:40.52 | wols_ | ayambit: sure, but you want grub installed on/for lenny, right? |
| 09:40.57 | fips4d | wols_: sure i could install the sqeezy libc headers under lenny and then compile it, but i don't get the sense, since we'll update to squeeze after a short period anyway... |
| 09:41.09 | ayambit | wols_: yes |
| 09:41.19 | fips4d | argh! s/sqeezy/squeeze/ |
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| 09:41.40 | ayambit | wols_: I chooted in lenny and I don't have grub-update there. |
| 09:41.55 | wols_ | fips4d: yes, but you wanted to backport something which needs a new libc6 and that scheme is the only way I can see |
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| 09:42.09 | wols_ | ayambit: update-grub |
| 09:42.37 | wols_ | fips4d: if you upgreade to squeeze, that'S the best solution for the problem imho :) |
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| 09:48.39 | jpinx | what is the quick way to check a hdd integrity? |
| 09:49.22 | tvm | fsck ? |
| 09:50.03 | sep | fsck for filesystem. badblocks for the drive itself. or you could check the harddrives smart counters but they are not 100% reliable |
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| 09:51.04 | jpinx | fsck throwing lots of errors |
| 09:51.25 | wols_ | jpinx: smartctl long test for a thorugh harddisk testing |
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| 09:52.18 | jpinx | holds the "y" key down with a stapler |
| 09:52.50 | sep | jpinx, check your backups |
| 09:53.17 | jpinx | too late...... |
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| 09:53.39 | jpinx | it's a fresh install ;) |
| 09:53.39 | Famic | hi |
| 09:54.50 | Famic | anyone would know what could cause mails not to be sent ? same code works fine locally, and I disabling all iptables rules didn't help... |
| 09:55.01 | Famic | I mean, php is trying to send the mail |
| 09:55.22 | Famic | I get no error, the mail just don't go |
| 09:55.31 | kramotaq | look at maillog |
| 09:55.38 | kramotaq | perhaps reject or differed |
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| 09:56.01 | kramotaq | or mail already send, but rejected because not fqdn |
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| 09:56.19 | Famic | kramotaq: all /var/log/mail.* are empty |
| 09:56.51 | kramotaq | pls take a look at mail daemon process |
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| 09:56.58 | kramotaq | maybe daemon is down |
| 09:57.21 | Famic | I have /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m |
| 09:57.52 | kramotaq | mm.. i think exim is in /var/log/exim4 |
| 09:58.09 | Famic | good call |
| 09:58.30 | Famic | Frozen (delivery error message) |
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| 09:59.44 | kramotaq | Exim freezes outgoing messages when it cannot deliver them, but leaves them in the outgoing queue for some period of days |
| 10:00.02 | kramotaq | u should find out why they're not deliverable |
| 10:00.03 | Famic | yeah, I read that too |
| 10:00.11 | Famic | any idea how to ask it to start trying again ? |
| 10:00.47 | kramotaq | invoke-rc.d exim4 reload |
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| 10:02.52 | Famic | relaunching exim doesn't seem to help much |
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| 10:03.03 | Famic | http://privatepaste.com/ebf7cc81cd |
| 10:03.11 | kramotaq | exim -qff -v |
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| 10:05.21 | Famic | kramotaq: http://privatepaste.com/8023de0948 |
| 10:05.40 | Famic | it says unfrozend by forced delivery but mail still don't go |
| 10:05.46 | Famic | firewall still down btw |
| 10:05.55 | kramotaq | that not firewall |
| 10:06.07 | kramotaq | i think exim can't resolv domain |
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| 10:06.54 | Famic | which domain ? the one in the pastebin is its own |
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| 10:07.42 | Famic | perhaps part of the mail sending sstem is missing |
| 10:08.01 | kramotaq | T=remote_smtp: retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period |
| 10:08.24 | Famic | is exim all I need for a smtp server ? |
| 10:08.42 | kramotaq | there are lot of choice |
| 10:08.43 | Famic | I mean, I just want to be able to send mails, not relay them |
| 10:08.44 | kramotaq | exim4 |
| 10:08.46 | kramotaq | postfix |
| 10:08.48 | kramotaq | sendmail |
| 10:08.49 | kramotaq | etc |
| 10:08.56 | Famic | right, but if exim4 is here, that should be enough ? |
| 10:09.01 | kramotaq | yep |
| 10:09.40 | Famic | then I don't get it :/ |
| 10:09.51 | kramotaq | try to clean the errors |
| 10:09.56 | kramotaq | or reconfigure |
| 10:10.04 | Famic | I already tried reconfigure |
| 10:10.16 | Famic | it helped before on another box |
| 10:10.23 | Famic | not here |
| 10:10.27 | kramotaq | or debug it |
| 10:10.31 | kramotaq | send a simple email |
| 10:10.35 | kramotaq | echo testing | mail -s Bla myemail@somewhere.com |
| 10:10.43 | kramotaq | look at exim4/mainlog |
| 10:10.55 | kramotaq | send to other domain |
| 10:11.47 | Famic | Mailing to remote domains not supported |
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| 10:12.04 | Famic | getting closer :) |
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| 10:12.26 | kramotaq | ok good luck |
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| 10:13.19 | michelem | hello folks |
| 10:13.25 | Famic | well from what I read that's supposed to be fixed by using dpkg-reconfigure on exim4-config |
| 10:13.30 | Famic | but I did that already |
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| 10:13.54 | michelem | I'm trying to get a Flash Card reader to work under debian. |
| 10:14.14 | kramotaq | take a look at exim4-config closer :) |
| 10:14.18 | michelem | the flash card is normally detected as /dev/sde, but on that machine sde is the SATA hard drive |
| 10:14.20 | kramotaq | i think you miss some point |
| 10:14.35 | kramotaq | sorry got to go |
| 10:14.58 | Famic | kramotaq: my bad. I tried to send the test mail on the wrong box. the one I'm trying to fix doesn't show this error |
| 10:15.08 | Famic | thanks for your help anyway |
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| 10:15.34 | michelem | what happens is, when I plug the reader dmesg shows it detected, and "usb_storage" is loaded, but when I plug the card nothing changes, and lsmod still shows "Used by 0" for usb_storage |
| 10:16.05 | michelem | any clue how I can debug this? |
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| 10:20.50 | testadura | hi all |
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| 10:23.44 | testadura | after that I found that it should be possible doing "echo on > /sys/bus/usb/devices/<the dev>/power/level", but the relevant device was disappeard from /sys too! what can I do besides reboot my system? |
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| 10:29.24 | Joelio | Anyone here PXE boot Dell's w/DRAC on the shared port? If I use the dedicated DRAC port and a seperate interface for PXE, it works fine (after injecting the broadcom driver into the initrd). If I use the shared port, the damn thing won't dhcp and complains about malformed IP. The same PXE setup works fine with Ubuntu on shared. Any ideas? |
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| 10:30.06 | cornair | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.54 | cornair | it looks like a security hole for me 8gdomap). otherwise I had some probs as soon as some macs are going online in our network... but these could be something else |
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| 10:32.53 | cornair | is anybody using gdomap? |
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| 10:37.22 | Gorilla_No_Baka | hello gents.. I am back |
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| 10:39.53 | gezgin | cornair: gdomap belongs to GNUStep environment. As far as I remember it is sort of an object mapper for GNUStep apps. Consider installing 'dlocate' package by the way for easy querying of your installed packages/files. |
| 10:40.01 | JyZyXEL | !reinstall |
| 10:40.11 | JyZyXEL | bot is dead? |
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| 10:41.30 | Gorilla_No_Baka | quick question.. I am running squeeze right ? and i have notinced an annoying feature of Nautilus : on right click either if i am inside of a folder or inside of a broweser surfing the internet wherever i am on performing a right click the nautilus woul automatically execute the first line of command in the menu (that is to say if i right click on a folder and the first option in the menu is open it will automatically open it despite of the fact i onl |
| 10:41.40 | Gorilla_No_Baka | Any way around it|? |
| 10:41.50 | cornair | *g* ok, that's what I found until now. but I never used it actively, so I think I do not need it anyway, I have disabled it by update-rc.d gdomap disable |
| 10:42.32 | Rziz | Hello, i have installed Iceweasel 4 from squeeze-backports in Debian wheezy. Apparently the locale package iceweasel-l10n-nl is not available through this repository. What is the preferred way to localize Iceweasel 4 from backports? |
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| 10:43.12 | Rziz | I might have overlooked something obvious :/ |
| 10:44.03 | Gorilla_No_Baka | quick question.. I am running squeeze right ? and i have notinced an annoying feature of Nautilus : on right click either if i am inside of a folder or inside of a broweser surfing the internet wherever i am on performing a right click the nautilus woul automatically execute the first line of command in the menu (that is to say if i right click on a folder and the first option in the menu is open it will automatically open it despite of the fact i onl |
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| 10:47.45 | Rziz | I just noticed iceweasel 4 locale packages are available through the experimental repo; are these also available for the version in backports? |
| 10:47.56 | streuner_ | no |
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| 10:48.22 | streuner_ | !bobbitt |
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| 10:48.31 | streuner_ | !bobbit |
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| 10:48.50 | streuner_ | dselect, bobbit |
| 10:48.50 | dselect | Remember Lorena Bobbitt [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorena_Bobbitt ]? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Lenny, Squeeze, and any other Debian system, "Debian based distro", or the fire that is <rpm>, <alien>, etc. |
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| 10:49.39 | Rziz | hm, i see :p |
| 10:49.52 | Gorilla_No_Baka | quick question.. I am running squeeze right ? and i have notinced an annoying feature of Nautilus : on right click either if i am inside of a folder or inside of a broweser surfing the internet wherever i am on performing a right click the nautilus woul automatically execute the first line of command in the menu (that is to say if i right click on a folder and the first option in the menu is open it will automatically open it despite of the fact i onl |
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| 10:50.39 | streuner_ | Rziz: you cannot mix any package(s) in different branches, thats the reason why backports exists (/msg dpkg/dselect backports) |
| 10:51.12 | streuner_ | Rziz: and, you can use experimental only as sid user |
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| 10:52.04 | Rziz | hm, i'll just build f4 from source then, thanks |
| 10:52.08 | streuner_ | Rziz: check out http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 10:52.12 | gnugr | Rziz: only a stable distro has backports, can't be with testing |
| 10:52.36 | Rziz | or just stick with f3 for the time being :p |
| 10:52.42 | streuner_ | Rziz: you dont to compile which is prolly a nightmare, just check the URL above out |
| 10:53.08 | streuner_ | Rziz: need+ |
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| 10:53.43 | Gorilla_No_Baka | quick question.. I am running squeeze right ? and i have notinced an annoying feature of Nautilus : on right click either if i am inside of a folder or inside of a broweser surfing the internet wherever i am on performing a right click the nautilus woul automatically execute the first line of command in the menu (that is to say if i right click on a folder and the first option in the menu is open it will automatically open it despite of the fact i onl |
| 10:53.52 | Rziz | my problem with the mozilla.debian.net repo was that apparently no locale packages are available there |
| 10:54.41 | streuner_ | Rziz: there are surely binaries available of firefox... |
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| 10:56.08 | streuner_ | Rziz: keep in mind, they daily built them, just ask in #firefox irc.gimp.org or such then, If you get issues |
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| 10:57.02 | streuner_ | Is there any modern browser available which doesnt suck? |
| 10:57.36 | soulthreads | streuner_, it's nonsense. |
| 10:57.47 | Gorilla_No_Baka | streuner_: K-melone Midori |
| 10:57.56 | streuner_ | sure, websites became more and more overloaded |
| 10:57.56 | Gorilla_No_Baka | K-meleon |
| 10:58.00 | Gorilla_No_Baka | and midori |
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| 11:01.32 | soulthreads | w3m enough for all. :) |
| 11:02.17 | Delf | I'm trying to remove tftpd and I get errors. |
| 11:02.25 | Gorilla_No_Baka | soulthreads: how about midori than.. i think he ask for something more modern :) |
| 11:02.31 | wols_ | Delf: /msg dpkg bat |
| 11:02.54 | Delf | wols_: No such nick? |
| 11:02.58 | streuner_ | wols, dpkg isnt available, just use dselect |
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| 11:03.08 | streuner_ | dselect, bat |
| 11:03.09 | dselect | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 11:03.14 | Gorilla_No_Baka | is playing Thunderstruck |
| 11:03.59 | Delf | http://paste.debian.net/120047/ |
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| 11:06.10 | Delf | Never mind. I did aptitude remove tftpd-hpa and everything went fine. |
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| 11:12.51 | anAngel | Hello. Anyone to know of any web-based software for managing lxc? |
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| 11:17.04 | gnugr | anAngel: http://wiki.debian.org/LXC |
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| 11:21.58 | anAngel | gnugr: thanks but I already found that and used it |
| 11:22.34 | gnugr | %lxc |
| 11:22.35 | dselect | Linux Containers (LXC) is an open source virtualization system using kernel-level isolation. The LXC userspace tools are not packaged for Lenny. http://wiki.debian.org/LXC http://lxc.sf.net/ See also <virtualization>. |
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| 12:07.00 | alfa_y_omega | /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:39:26: fatal error: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory |
| 12:07.12 | alfa_y_omega | what package to install to solve this problem? |
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| 12:09.28 | bs0d | Good day everybody. How can I tell apt-build to build a web-server using statical linking? No shared libraries |
| 12:09.52 | apollov | Hi people! I've got a strange issue: when opening a file-packing dialog or a screenshot window - they're too wide. Anybody met this? |
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| 12:12.15 | stew | bs0d: there would be nothing special todo with apt-build. you'd just have to feed it a source package with debian/rules setup to build it statically. but why would you want this in the first place? |
| 12:12.49 | stew | apollov: you should say which window manager you are using, as this is certainly a window manager problem |
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| 12:13.07 | stew | alfa_y_omega: linux-libc-dev: /usr/include/linux/limits.h (/msg dpkg apt-file) |
| 12:13.16 | apollov | stew: I'm on GNOME 2 |
| 12:13.45 | stew | apollov: you should say which window manager though |
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| 12:14.08 | bs0d | stew: I am going to put a webserver in a chroot jail, it will be the only programm in a jail, so if I build it statically, it will be only one file, less files inside jail, more convenient for me, than to copy a webserver and a bunch of shared libs it requires |
| 12:14.17 | apollov | stew, oh, sorry. Metacity |
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| 12:15.51 | fossala | I remember hearing about a unofficial install cd with non-free drivers. Can anyone point me into a direction of it? |
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| 12:16.50 | bs0d | fossala: you can configure apt to include the non-free packages as well. Maybe Im a paranoic, but Id recommend you not to use the unofficial install cds |
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| 12:17.07 | fossala | On the install cd? how? |
| 12:17.20 | fossala | I need ethernet for my netinstall |
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| 12:17.39 | abrotman | %firmware images |
| 12:17.39 | dselect | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Squeeze are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. http://deb.li/3tGse |
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| 12:23.30 | bs0d | stew: where can I read more about how to tell apt-build to use debian/rules which are setup for statical build? |
| 12:24.34 | abrotman | static, not statical |
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| 12:24.58 | bs0d | abrotman: yes, I wrote incorrectly, static of cource |
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| 12:25.18 | abrotman | course ? :) |
| 12:25.36 | abrotman | stops misbehaving |
| 12:26.18 | simonlnu | misbehaving? nah ;) |
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| 12:35.41 | fossala | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 12:35.55 | abrotman | fossala: enjoy |
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| 12:37.42 | alfa_y_omega | thanks stew |
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| 12:46.02 | bs0d | So where can I read more on how to build packages with statically linked libs using apt-build? |
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| 12:46.33 | bs0d | man apt-build provided no info on this question, google also did not give any result :( |
| 12:47.23 | bs0d | Also I looked for debian/rules directory and did not find any |
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| 12:51.27 | DammitJim | do you guys normally have external hard drives with a different file system than fat32? |
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| 12:51.42 | streuner_ | sure |
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| 12:51.57 | streuner_ | JFS and NTFS |
| 12:52.04 | wols_ | many people can't use fat due to the maximum filesize limitations |
| 12:52.26 | streuner_ | vfat is limited to 4 GB... |
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| 12:53.46 | FlexGuy_ | anybody can help with drbd log ? |
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| 12:56.19 | sep | DammitJim, guess i'm traditional. i have ext3 on everything |
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| 13:02.00 | sickgut | i have a 500gb ntfs external hdd |
| 13:02.08 | sickgut | wish to hell i used ext2 or 3 |
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| 13:02.18 | sickgut | coz it wont defrag |
| 13:02.36 | wols_ | it does too. just just as much |
| 13:02.47 | sickgut | and had become so horribly fragmented i cant stream movies from it without it pausing |
| 13:02.48 | DammitJim | thanks |
| 13:02.52 | sickgut | 500gb of torrents |
| 13:03.12 | sickgut | i used ntfs coz i thoughti may use it on some windows machines |
| 13:03.15 | sickgut | and i didnt |
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| 13:03.42 | sickgut | so im gonna have to transfer the data to another hdd then reformat this one as ext 3 and put data back on |
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| 13:04.59 | thewanderer1s | hi. why does cat and dd return while reading from /dev/ttyS0, before I tell them to stop? |
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| 13:05.47 | daniel-s | anyone here use midnight commander? |
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| 13:05.56 | daniel-s | how do I change the directory in the right panel? |
| 13:06.07 | daniel-s | is it possible to change between them? |
| 13:06.17 | wols_ | daniel-s: tab normally works |
| 13:06.35 | daniel-s | lol |
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| 13:06.43 | daniel-s | is slow :( |
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| 13:07.07 | wols_ | thewanderer1s: maybe cause it's a character device? but I'm only guessing |
| 13:07.27 | thewanderer1s | yeah but still, I'd like it to read until I hit ctrl+C |
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| 13:08.22 | man_in_ltop | waves |
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| 13:08.33 | man_in_ltop | how would i find out the gcc -l flag required for a given library? |
| 13:08.43 | man_in_ltop | e.g., libgstreamer-0.10-dev |
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| 13:12.29 | CruX| | hello, is there any Upnp command line client for linux ? I need to forward ports on my router |
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| 13:13.08 | man_in_ltop | ah, pkg-config is quite useful |
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| 13:13.22 | dym | 'tis |
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| 13:13.55 | daniel-s | !wave at man_in_ltop |
| 13:14.22 | daniel-s | !wave man_in_ltop |
| 13:14.36 | daniel-s | lousy bot! |
| 13:14.48 | abrotman | wrong bot |
| 13:15.02 | thewanderer1s | how can I stop cat and dd from returning while reading the serial line? |
| 13:15.03 | abrotman | daniel-s: please don't test your bot in this channel |
| 13:15.41 | petemc | thewanderer1s: use socat |
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| 13:16.38 | bs0d | such peculiar question to people who use apt-build. It is possible to write the values of CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS in /etc/apt/apt-build.conf or it must be done only on a per-package basis in debian/rules? |
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| 13:18.54 | man_in_ltop | ok |
| 13:19.01 | thewanderer1s | petemc: I don't have socat here, and I'm trying to push ppp.deb over the serial line to get connectivity :P |
| 13:19.05 | man_in_ltop | so now i have a gstreamer playbin app |
| 13:19.07 | man_in_ltop | fun times |
| 13:19.10 | stew | bs0d: i think you'll be lucky to actually find anyone using apt-build |
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| 13:20.15 | thewanderer1s | so any standard tool (priority=essential) I can use for this task? |
| 13:20.32 | bs0d | stew: you think so? My friend here tell me using apt-build is rather a gentoo-way not the debian-way and he thinks it will be hard for me to get any help on configuring apt-build |
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| 13:21.52 | thewanderer1s | so for some reason, every I/O operation on ttyS0 returns after some time |
| 13:22.06 | thewanderer1s | maybe read() == 0 and it thinks it's the end of file |
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| 13:22.29 | thewanderer1s | including Bash, apparently |
| 13:22.32 | stew | bs0d: i've rarely heard of anyone using apt-build |
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| 13:23.12 | latenite | Hi folks, I just installed a dhcp-server. BUT I can not start it because the init.d script is not present http://www.poeritz.de/paste/239 what did I do wrong? |
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| 13:23.41 | bs0d | latenite: did you install it from a debian package? |
| 13:23.53 | MrFrood | %apt-build |
| 13:23.53 | dselect | [apt-build] an apt-get front-end for recompiling packages; http://julien.danjou.info/projects/ . Warning -- this program will not optimize your packages for you as advertised; the gcc O flags and friends that you specify are not even parsed properly. In a breath, don't bother with it, because apt-get source/build-dep is far more useful. |
| 13:24.39 | petemc | latenite: isc-dhcp-server |
| 13:24.53 | stew | latenite: init scripts are typically conffiles: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 13:25.13 | petemc | the script is there, just rather awkwardly named |
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| 13:26.29 | bs0d | MrFrood: btw I have found a blog post telling that those parameters are read, but you do not see it explicitly, as those parameters are applied by some wrapper and ps ax | grep gcc run while building can be run as a proof, but I agree, apt-get source/build-dep is more useful |
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| 13:28.34 | MrFrood | bs0d: if that is the case you should update the factoid |
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| 13:29.44 | bs0d | MrFrood: first I am going to check it for myself if this is true what they write |
| 13:29.53 | thewanderer1s | is there a way to see what NIC is what brand and possibly which PCI slot? |
| 13:30.05 | thewanderer1s | (eth0 -> realtek, eth1 -> intel) |
| 13:30.07 | MrFrood | bs0d: wise move |
| 13:30.52 | thewanderer1s | I want an equivalent of what Debian Installer shows when the primary network card selection takes place |
| 13:31.06 | wols_ | thewanderer1s: kernel assignment of eth0 and eth1 is, first come first serve |
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| 13:31.26 | wols_ | udev thenn assigns depending on MAC. MAC is usually manufacturer dependent |
| 13:31.28 | thewanderer1s | wols_: sure, but d-i has means of determining what is what |
| 13:31.48 | thewanderer1s | it shows a nice list with interface names and card models |
| 13:32.21 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:33.46 | cysioland | Hi, i have a problem. Trying to enable mic in Skype, i broke something, and I have no sound, and system tools don't detect my card. I have Debian Squeeze |
| 13:34.17 | MrFrood | %alsactl |
| 13:34.17 | dselect | In Squeeze and later releases, <alsaconf> is not available; ask me about <install alsa> and <alsa checklist>. You can try to configure <ALSA> by running 'alsactl init' as root - ignoring the 'Unknown hardware' error message - then reboot and test your audio device. |
| 13:34.46 | stew | then reboot? |
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| 13:35.04 | cysioland | alsactl: init:1743: No soundcards found... |
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| 13:35.10 | cysioland | Then, reboot |
| 13:35.14 | stew | no, don't reboot |
| 13:35.18 | stew | that's silly advice |
| 13:35.21 | bean-java||away | stew: yes reboot.....that command configures the kernel modules |
| 13:35.34 | cysioland | Who to listen? |
| 13:35.39 | stew | bean-java||away: why would you reboot unless you were changing hardware? |
| 13:35.48 | stew | bean-java||away: modules can be unloaded and reloaded |
| 13:35.55 | Justin | cysioland: 'broke something' how? |
| 13:36.11 | cysioland | I don't remember |
| 13:36.18 | Justin | cysioland: you don't remember? |
| 13:36.19 | cysioland | stew: Reboot, or don't? |
| 13:36.23 | cysioland | Justin: yes |
| 13:36.24 | bean-java||away | stew: yes they can be however that command doesn't output the information to your terminal |
| 13:36.50 | thewanderer1s | wols_: yeah, looks like udevadm info shows the necessary data to identify the PCI slot |
| 13:36.52 | MrFrood | cysioland: work your way through the alsa checklist if alsactl found nothing |
| 13:36.52 | stew | cysioland: can you show us the line in the output of "lspci -nn" that corresponds to your sound card? |
| 13:37.39 | linksrum | hi! how to make apt aware of files in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ on lenny? it's apt version 0.7.20 |
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| 13:38.11 | stew | linksrum: it already is aware |
| 13:38.12 | cysioland | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/5d5e75ac/ |
| 13:38.22 | cysioland | stew: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/5d5e75ac/ |
| 13:38.34 | stew | judd: pciid 8086:293e |
| 13:38.36 | judd | [8086:293e] is '82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:293e and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 13:38.46 | stew | cysioland: is the snd-hda-intel module loaded? |
| 13:38.54 | latenite | bs0d, thanks I found it :) |
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| 13:39.05 | cysioland | stew: How to check it? |
| 13:39.14 | stew | cysioland: lsmod | grep snd.hda.intel |
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| 13:39.38 | cysioland | stew: Nothing shown |
| 13:39.53 | stew | cysioland: what does "uname -r" return? |
| 13:40.07 | cysioland | stew: 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 13:40.17 | linksrum | stew: no, it's not. :-( on squeeze it works, but on lenny it doesn't. (double checked on different systems) |
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| 13:40.43 | stew | cysioland: run "modprobe snd-hda-intel" ; then see if "alsamixer" works |
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| 13:41.14 | stew | linksrum: it is. if you don't believe me, see the FILES section of "man apt_preferences". if your preferences fragment isn't working, it's probably got an error |
| 13:41.17 | cysioland | stew: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found. |
| 13:41.19 | stew | linksrum: can you show us? |
| 13:41.50 | mauve_alert | Hi, I can't get apache2's rewrite mod to work. Yesterday someone helped me attempt to turn on RewriteLog (by modifying httpd.conf) and it's not logging anything. |
| 13:42.05 | stew | judd: file snd_hda_intel.ko --release squeeze --arch amd64 |
| 13:42.08 | linksrum | stew: moving the same fragment to /etc/apt/preferences works |
| 13:42.09 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
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| 13:42.25 | thewanderer1s | mauve_alert: maybe you're enabling rewrite in .htaccess and directive overrides are disabled? |
| 13:42.37 | thewanderer1s | (AllowOverride none) |
| 13:42.41 | stew | judd: file snd-hda-intel.ko --release squeeze --arch amd64 |
| 13:42.44 | judd | snd-hda-intel.ko in squeeze/amd64: linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64: lib/modules/2.6.32-5-xen-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko; linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64: lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko; linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64: lib/modules/2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko; linux-image-2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64: lib/modules/2.6.32-5 |
| 13:42.45 | cysioland | stew: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found. ; alsamixer cannot run, because "mixer: no device or address" |
| 13:42.46 | judd | -vserver-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko; linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64-dbg: usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko; linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64-dbg: usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko; linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64-dbg: usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-xen-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd- (1 more message) |
| 13:42.50 | stew | linksrum: get rid of the period in the name of the file? |
| 13:43.04 | stew | cysioland: so, something must have removed that kernel modules from your system |
| 13:43.10 | stew | cysioland: you might consider reinstalling the kernel |
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| 13:43.26 | Justin | cysioland: you should really remember what you did to break it like that |
| 13:43.31 | cysioland | stew: How to do that, and how to don't lose NVIDIA drivers. |
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| 13:44.22 | linksrum | stew: :-D guess, you misunderstand. i'd like to put the settings/pinnings into seperate files in preferences.d directory |
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| 13:44.38 | stew | linksrum: what is the name of the file in preferences.d? |
| 13:44.58 | cysioland | Justin: No, i don't remember. I'm nuts. |
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| 13:45.27 | stew | linksrum: (i don't misunderstand. I'm guessing that it is finding the files in preferences.d using run-parts |
| 13:45.30 | stew | ) |
| 13:45.48 | mauve_alert | thewanderer1s: I was calling rewrite in .htaccess. Should I get rid of .htaccess? |
| 13:45.52 | cysioland | stew: How to reinstall kernel, and how to don't lose NVIDIA drivers. |
| 13:46.11 | linksrum | stew: /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports |
| 13:46.16 | stew | cysioland: i would "aptitude reinstall linux-image-$(uanme -r)" I have no idea what that would do to nvidia drivers |
| 13:46.19 | thewanderer1s | mauve_alert: no, but are you sure your .htaccess is actually taken into consideration by yout server? |
| 13:46.59 | stew | if one can edit the apache config directly, there should be no reason to use .htaccess |
| 13:47.13 | thewanderer1s | stew: other than clean per-directory configs |
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| 13:47.33 | stew | thewanderer1s: no, you can do per-directory configs in the apache config |
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| 13:47.34 | mauve_alert | thewanderer1s: Thanks for helping. I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to find out, unless I test. I'm new to linux. |
| 13:47.35 | cysioland | stew: And how to stop apt from constantly reconfiguring misinstalled alsa-mixer-linuxant |
| 13:47.48 | stew | judd: versions alsa-mixer-linuxant |
| 13:47.49 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'alsa-mixer-linuxant' was found in i386. |
| 13:47.51 | mauve_alert | stew: hi again! |
| 13:47.56 | thewanderer1s | stew: yeah, but with .htaccess, your config moves along when you move files... it has its uses, really |
| 13:48.02 | cysioland | stew: I installed from .deb file |
| 13:48.14 | stew | cysioland: remove it? talk to whomever you got the buggy package from about fixing their pacakge (you didn't get that package from debian) |
| 13:48.48 | thewanderer1s | mauve_alert: you're running the default site, right? check in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ in the site's config whether there is any AllowOverride option |
| 13:48.55 | stew | thewanderer1s: and for having it you give up performance and perhaps security |
| 13:48.56 | twobitsprite | I have a persistent screen session on my remote box (the one I IRC on, actually), and whenever I hybernate my laptop and the connection is dropped, my xterm I"m running the ssh+screen in seems to enter a mode where it won't echo any keys and I have to run "reset"... |
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| 13:49.10 | cysioland | stew: What after reinstalling kernel? |
| 13:49.32 | twobitsprite | It's not a big deal but I'm curious if it's an easy fix |
| 13:49.32 | stew | cysioland: modprobe snd-hda-intel |
| 13:49.49 | cysioland | stew: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found. |
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| 13:50.20 | cysioland | stew: Need I rebooting? |
| 13:50.25 | mauve_alert | groan. when I removed .htaccess and turned on 'clean urls' in wordpress it complained to me about rewrite rules in .htaccess |
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| 13:50.46 | cysioland | stew: APT says that |
| 13:50.54 | thewanderer1s | mauve_alert: that's why I told you you should not remove that :P |
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| 13:51.34 | mauve_alert | thanks thewanderer1 |
| 13:51.48 | thewanderer1s | mauve_alert: really, read the site config in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/00-default and check the value of AllowOverride |
| 13:52.08 | mauve_alert | so replacing .htaccess, still nothing written to my rewrite log, and clean urls still broken. |
| 13:52.32 | cysioland | stew: Need I to reboot? |
| 13:52.50 | stew | cysioland: does "/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko" exist? |
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| 13:53.13 | mauve_alert | missed your suggestion 1st time thewanderer1, following it now |
| 13:53.43 | apollov | Hi people! I've got a strange issue: when opening a file-packing dialog or a screenshot window - they're too wide. Anybody met this? My window manager is Metacity, but it appears in Compiz too. I tried to search through gconf - but no success. Any help? |
| 13:53.51 | cysioland | stew: i haven't dir pci |
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| 13:54.50 | wols_ | cysioland: if kernel modules are missing, reinstall your kernel |
| 13:55.28 | cysioland | wols_: I done that |
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| 13:55.41 | cysioland | stew: What to do next? |
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| 13:56.34 | thewanderer1s | oh what... I launch `nano` and it *almost* works - the top bar is there, but there is no readable text, and it seems as though the text area width is set to 1 or something, also, the bottom panel is broken |
| 13:56.56 | thewanderer1s | "top" is fine, so is vim, so I assume it must be some nano-specific thing |
| 13:57.01 | thewanderer1s | (TERM=linux) |
| 13:58.11 | mauve_alert | tehwanderer1s: I have a 000-default not a 00-default; AllowOverride is set to None for the website directory. |
| 13:58.45 | twobitsprite | thewanderer1s: what version o nano? |
| 13:58.48 | thewanderer1s | mauve_alert: it means that .htpasswd is not taken into account - change this to AllowOverride All |
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| 13:59.01 | thewanderer1s | twobitsprite: 2.2.4 |
| 13:59.16 | twobitsprite | thewanderer1s: 2.2.6 seems to work fine with TERM=linux |
| 13:59.19 | cysioland | stew: ? |
| 13:59.42 | twobitsprite | ,versions nano |
| 13:59.42 | judd | Package nano on i386 -- lenny: 2.0.7-5; squeeze: 2.2.4-1; sid: 2.2.6-1; wheezy: 2.2.6-1 |
| 13:59.45 | stew | cysioland: what does "grep snd.hda.intel /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-$(uname -r).list" return? |
| 14:00.11 | thewanderer1s | I don't quite feel like getting Sid packages |
| 14:00.28 | twobitsprite | thewanderer1s: hold on, I'll try it on a squeeze box |
| 14:00.36 | thewanderer1s | this is i386 btw. |
| 14:00.49 | cysioland | stew: /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko |
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| 14:01.14 | stew | cysioland: but this pci directory doesn't exist? |
| 14:01.16 | linksrum | stew: just checked man apt_preferences again. on lenny, it doesn't have a FILES section. probably this came as a new feature? |
| 14:01.31 | twobitsprite | thewanderer1s: works on my i386 squeeze box over ssh, let me try on tty |
| 14:01.32 | stew | linksrum: ok, sorry |
| 14:02.02 | cysioland | stew: yep |
| 14:02.34 | twobitsprite | thewanderer1s: as soon as vsphere decides to stop being stupid... |
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| 14:03.41 | thewanderer1s | oh well. it's the same over SSH here. |
| 14:03.47 | stew | cysioland: i'm not sure how this would have happened if you really just reinstalled that package |
| 14:04.36 | thewanderer1s | oh great, it works with LANG=C but breaks with LANG=pl_PL.UTF-8 |
| 14:04.40 | twobitsprite | thewanderer1s: same as in doesn't work? |
| 14:04.44 | cysioland | stew: Neither do I. How to fix it? |
| 14:04.51 | twobitsprite | ahh |
| 14:05.08 | thewanderer1s | what this is, I don't have the slightest idea |
| 14:05.37 | twobitsprite | thewanderer1s: just tried TERM=linux LANG=pl_PL.UTF-8 nano and it still works |
| 14:05.47 | thewanderer1s | lo, eth0 and behold! locale-gen has fixed it |
| 14:05.56 | thewanderer1s | now I wonder how many more corrupt files I have here :P |
| 14:05.57 | twobitsprite | got to be something else |
| 14:06.03 | stew | cysioland: i'd check if there is a related diversion in /var/lib/dpkg/diversions |
| 14:06.06 | twobitsprite | ahh |
| 14:06.14 | thewanderer1s | also, my /etc/fstab was full of garbage when I booted today |
| 14:06.28 | twobitsprite | ew |
| 14:06.36 | twobitsprite | local storage? |
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| 14:06.45 | thewanderer1s | 2x2GB CF cards |
| 14:06.53 | cysioland | stew: Do that, master |
| 14:07.00 | twobitsprite | you mean FC? |
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| 14:07.10 | thewanderer1s | no, Compact Flash on IDE |
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| 14:07.13 | twobitsprite | ohh :P |
| 14:07.22 | An_Ony_Moose | I have a sid installation. Is it at all possible to "downgrade" it to squeeze? |
| 14:07.25 | twobitsprite | how old are they? |
| 14:07.40 | thewanderer1s | twobitsprite: about 3 years |
| 14:07.48 | twobitsprite | !tell An_Ony_Moose about downgrade |
| 14:07.53 | twobitsprite | An_Ony_Moose: short answer: no |
| 14:08.06 | stew | An_Ony_Moose: not really. you can try. package upgrade scripts don't support downgrading. config files will change and become incompatible with the older versions, same with binary data files |
| 14:08.06 | cysioland | stew: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e45e7a04/ |
| 14:08.07 | thewanderer1s | I'd better run debsums :P |
| 14:08.07 | twobitsprite | where's the bot? |
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| 14:08.24 | An_Ony_Moose | twobitsprite stew ouch. So I'm better off reinstalling? |
| 14:08.32 | twobitsprite | An_Ony_Moose: probably |
| 14:08.38 | thewanderer1s | twobitsprite: on vacation... try apt when dpkg's absent, it's supposed to be a mirror |
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| 14:08.43 | thewanderer1s | apt: downgrade |
| 14:08.44 | apt | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get at the moment and probably never will be supported because why would you want to downgrade in the first place? Not possible because some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later...but if you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 |
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| 14:08.49 | thewanderer1s | yeah, works |
| 14:08.52 | twobitsprite | ahh |
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| 14:08.56 | stew | An_Ony_Moose: yes |
| 14:09.15 | An_Ony_Moose | ok, I guess I'll do that. I do have enough bandwidth to spare :P |
| 14:09.16 | An_Ony_Moose | thanks |
| 14:09.17 | stew | cysioland: tell me again the command you used to reinstall the kernel? |
| 14:10.04 | An_Ony_Moose | apt's link is broken, who maintains it? |
| 14:10.04 | cysioland | stew: aptitude reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) |
| 14:10.16 | stew | cysioland: and that succeeded? |
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| 14:10.34 | stew | An_Ony_Moose: we all do |
| 14:10.37 | cysioland | stew: nope |
| 14:10.45 | stew | actually nobody reall maintains apt |
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| 14:11.23 | An_Ony_Moose | stew: ok, so who can fix the link? :P |
| 14:11.30 | thewanderer1s | apt is automatically synced with dpkg, isn't it? |
| 14:11.32 | stew | apt: downgrade =~ s/...but if you find you want.*$//g |
| 14:11.32 | apt | stew: that doesn't contain '...but if you find you want.*$' |
| 14:11.35 | stew | thewanderer1s: no |
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| 14:11.44 | stew | apt: downgrade =~ s/...but if you find you want.*//g |
| 14:11.44 | apt | stew: that doesn't contain '...but if you find you want.*' |
| 14:12.22 | cysioland | stew: That didn't help. What next? |
| 14:12.26 | stew | cysioland: i don't know |
| 14:12.58 | cysioland | cries very loud! |
| 14:12.59 | stew | cysioland: wait. if aptitude reinstall... didn't succeed, what was the error |
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| 14:13.26 | cysioland | stew: It succeedes, but didn't help |
| 14:13.40 | stew | i don't understand how that is possible |
| 14:13.42 | mauve_alert | Hey - the clean URLS are working again! the trick was to allow overrides in apache's configuration file. |
| 14:13.52 | wols_ | cysioland: "already newest version"? |
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| 14:14.10 | mauve_alert | thewanderer1s, stew: thank you very much! |
| 14:14.36 | icewewe | what is the grub syntax to boot into initrd? I'd like to diagnose a problem I'm having and I want to see what the environment looks like before initrd hands things over to init |
| 14:14.43 | cysioland | wols_: ? |
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| 14:15.04 | wols_ | cysioland: the reinstall of the kernel via apt, the message from apt |
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| 14:15.17 | stew | wols_: i don't think reinstall would ever say that, would it? |
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| 14:15.59 | wols_ | stew: muscle memory where people use "install" instead of "reinstall". happens |
| 14:16.16 | cysioland | wols_: Not, it worked. Normally reinstalled. |
| 14:16.32 | stew | yeah, that's why I had him reconfirm the command he used |
| 14:16.32 | cysioland | wols_: With command "reinstall" |
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| 14:17.05 | wols_ | cysioland: force it. dpkg -x the kernel file, make sure every modules exists and copy it |
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| 14:17.23 | wols_ | the kernel deb package rather |
| 14:17.24 | stew | yikes |
| 14:17.26 | cysioland | wols_: The kernel file? |
| 14:17.37 | cysioland | wols_: Kernel package? Where to find it? |
| 14:17.42 | wols_ | stew: any other suggestions to make sure the modules are on the filesystem? |
| 14:17.53 | wols_ | cysioland: should be in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 14:18.07 | stew | i dunno. aptitude reinstall should really be working. they really shouldn't have been deleted in the first place |
| 14:18.11 | stew | wait |
| 14:18.38 | stew | i wonder if whatever broken non-debian package he had is what killed it, and continues to kill it everytime it tries to get reconfigured |
| 14:18.50 | stew | cysioland: did you remove your broken non-debian package yet? |
| 14:19.28 | cysioland | stew: I done apt-get remove on that package. I have sources, that succeeding t compile, and I compiled it form source. |
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| 14:19.47 | cysioland | stew: And it don't tries to repair it anymore |
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| 14:21.29 | cysioland | stew: What next? |
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| 14:22.00 | wols_ | stew: the .list file in dpkg/info, is that the actual files dpkg extracts or is that a simple list of "what should be in that archive"? |
| 14:22.28 | stew | wols_: the .list is in the control.tar.gz before it is unpacked |
| 14:22.42 | stew | wols_: so the latter |
| 14:22.50 | stew | cysioland: strace is probably next |
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| 14:23.32 | stew | cysioland: i suppose you could verify that the files we are missing are in the deb by looking at "dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-....deb" |
| 14:24.52 | cysioland | stew: snd-hda-intel? It is... |
| 14:25.05 | cysioland | stew: Thanks to grep 'snd' |
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| 14:26.16 | stew | cysioland: then if it were me, I'd probably strace the reinstall and see why the file doesn't end up on the filesystem |
| 14:26.28 | cysioland | stew: ? |
| 14:27.16 | cysioland | stew: Where to paste results? |
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| 14:30.33 | webad13 | how could I install software without root privileges? I'd like to have tint2 on my vnc account, but asking admin to install it is a too long procedure. Is it possible to build it in my home dir and call it from there? |
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| 14:31.07 | Justin | webad13: yes |
| 14:31.24 | Digdilem | webad13, usually yes. depends on program, but most are fine to run with user privs |
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| 14:31.45 | webad13 | Justin: but make install requires root priv |
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| 14:32.06 | cysioland | stew: How to 'strace' reinstall |
| 14:33.03 | Justin | webad13: ./configure --prefix=~/software |
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| 14:35.02 | cysioland | stew: How to strace reinstall? |
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| 14:37.14 | cysioland | stew: OK, I'm nw stracing it |
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| 14:37.55 | linksrum | stew: finally found it. /etc/apt/preferences.d/ dir was introduced with apt 0.7.24 |
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| 14:38.07 | ujjain | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/archive/gcc3 ./ucc-bin server BR-Serenity?game=XGame.xBombingRun? < Does this make the program run slow? |
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| 14:42.44 | cysioland | stew: I cannot paste 'strace' resullts. Plz say something to prove, that you're alive |
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| 14:47.49 | cysioland | YES!!! I HAVE REPAIRED SOUND!!! AND I HAVE REPAIRED MIC!!! AFTER REBOOTING!!! |
| 14:48.22 | cahoot | so turn down volume now please |
| 14:48.31 | tekzilla | lol |
| 14:48.54 | cysioland | Sorry for caps, I'M HAPPY! |
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| 14:49.29 | cahoot | extatic looks more like it |
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| 14:52.17 | jonos | can sum1 point me in the right direction so i can set up ftp. www. irc. ftp. mail. on debian please |
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| 14:53.25 | wols_ | jonos: what you want can be a very tall order. or it can be simply aptitude install apache2 vsftpd irssi; done |
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| 14:56.28 | jonos | i need something so i can learn about it wols_ as im hosting my website on my homeserver using dynamicdns |
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| 15:07.05 | linksrum | where to find a more recent version of apt for lenny, i.e. >=0.7.22 ? |
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| 15:07.32 | cahoot | jonos, start here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ |
| 15:07.58 | avheoz | linksrum: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=apt&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=lenny-backports |
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| 15:08.22 | avheoz | oops i misread that :) |
| 15:08.58 | john_rambo | sfw streams are playing fine in Iceweasel ...... any external player that supports swf ? Tried both mplayer & vlc didnt work |
| 15:08.59 | linksrum | i checked that already ;-) any other ideas? |
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| 15:10.51 | latenite | Hi folks, I need to grow my root partition. I booted into a rescue shell from the install CD.. now I don't know what to do next. How do i grow / ? |
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| 15:11.51 | bs0d | latenite: is it an lvm partition? |
| 15:11.58 | wols_ | latenite: use a gparted live cd instead |
| 15:12.28 | latenite | bs0d, no its not. |
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| 15:12.46 | bs0d | latenite: then gparted must help |
| 15:13.03 | stew | linksrum: you'd have to backport it, and to backport it, you'd probably have to backport curl. why not just upgrade to squeeze (the current stable)? |
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| 15:13.05 | latenite | wols_, I only have the netinstall CD availale...it is a VMware server with restrictions |
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| 15:15.07 | linksrum | stew: 'cause it's not my workstation. ;-) i'm managing apt with puppet and i'm looking for a consistent approach over oldstable, stanble and testing, if possible somehow. |
| 15:15.20 | mauve_alert | I've got a question about file permissions: i've moved a wordpress site from godaddy.com to my own lenny server. the web directory (and everything beneath) is owned by my own user, which allows me to update wordpress via ssh. But now I can't edit the theme... |
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| 15:15.45 | mauve_alert | ...i'm assuming that wordpress wants www-data to be the directory/file owner |
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| 15:16.05 | linksrum | mauve_alert: you're right |
| 15:16.11 | stew | mauve_alert: i'd recommend just updating it via ssh, especially since wordpress has such a bad security track records |
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| 15:18.13 | mauve_alert | stew, unfortunately my client wants to update his site himself, which is why he had the site built on Wordpress to begin with (by someone else). I'll make myself part of the same group that www-data belongs to... can one user belong to more than one group? I'm also in the su group |
| 15:18.17 | simonlnu | mauve_alert: or chgrp it to some common group |
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| 15:18.36 | simonlnu | but yes, i'd listen to stew there |
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| 15:19.33 | linksrum | mauve_alert: usermod -a -G group is your friend |
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| 15:19.39 | stew | mauve_alert: yes, a user can be in more than one group. make sure to only give www-data write permissions to the directories it really needs permissions to |
| 15:20.08 | simonlnu | indeed |
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| 15:20.21 | Enverex | I'm trying to install Debian (latest stable) onto a friend's Netbook and it's failing because it always complains that it cannot download libusb-0.1. Is this a known issue? (using the Small CD install) |
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| 15:20.23 | mauve_alert | simonlu: duly noted. Thanks, stew, linksrum |
| 15:21.17 | simonlnu | lnu |
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| 15:21.45 | mauve_alert | (bad eyesight) |
| 15:22.01 | simonlnu | (not enough <tab> ;p) |
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| 15:26.44 | anddam | hi, when using squeeze as VirtualBox guest can I mark xerver-xorg dependency on xserver-xorg-video-6 satisfied even if I'm not using virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 package from apt? |
| 15:26.57 | anddam | I'm using latest driver from VirtualBox |
| 15:27.53 | stew | anddam: /msg dpkg equivs |
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| 15:28.06 | aguitel | how to show only text during boot ,restart,shutdown process ? |
| 15:28.36 | anddam | thanks |
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| 15:28.54 | freebird_2 | hello |
| 15:28.55 | superstraw | I know that a user's crontab is in /var/spool/cron/crontab/ and I shouldn't edit that file, but can I copy it for a backup and replace it if necessary? |
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| 15:29.04 | anddam | stew: but dpkg isn't here atm |
| 15:29.39 | stew | %equivs |
| 15:29.39 | dselect | equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell <apt> you really have installed (through some other means) the package. aptitude install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, see also <usrlocal>. A better plan is often to adapt the Debian packages to your needs, ask me about <package recompile> <uupdate> <ssb>. |
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| 15:30.11 | stew | superstraw: you can replace it with "crontab -u username /path/to/file" |
| 15:30.15 | freebird_2 | you guys, I`ve apache2 and php5 installed, apache is ok, when I try to run a php file, I only see it`s content, why ??? |
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| 15:30.25 | freebird_2 | doesn`t execute the script, why ? |
| 15:30.29 | superstraw | stew ty |
| 15:30.29 | stew | freebird_2: try "a2enmod php5" |
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| 15:31.22 | plug918 | hello, anyone can tell me how to share my drive on debian to a window machine? |
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| 15:31.30 | freebird_2 | stew, where can I find that ? |
| 15:31.36 | freebird_2 | don`t have it in here |
| 15:31.47 | stew | freebird_2: are you running debian? what version? |
| 15:31.54 | freebird_2 | squeeze |
| 15:32.04 | fbs | plug918: try sambva |
| 15:32.06 | stew | freebird_2: then you should have a2enmod |
| 15:32.07 | fbs | smaba |
| 15:32.10 | fbs | ffs, samba |
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| 15:32.26 | freebird_2 | apt-cache search a2enmod |
| 15:32.31 | freebird_2 | stew shows me onthing |
| 15:32.39 | stew | judd: file a2enmod |
| 15:32.43 | judd | a2enmod in squeeze/i386: apache2.2-common: usr/sbin/a2enmod |
| 15:32.48 | stew | freebird_2: its in the apache2.2-common package |
| 15:32.55 | plug918 | fbs: samba, after install i can share my drive to window? |
| 15:33.05 | fbs | freebird_2: do you run as root? |
| 15:33.10 | fbs | plug918: you need to config it |
| 15:33.12 | freebird_2 | fbs, yes |
| 15:33.15 | fbs | but tthere are lots of docs |
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| 15:33.47 | freebird_2 | stew, shouldn`t be inside apache2/bin ?? |
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| 15:33.59 | stew | freebird_2: what is "apache2/bin"? |
| 15:34.11 | freebird_2 | oh, will searh, /user/sbin/ |
| 15:34.12 | freebird_2 | 1 min |
| 15:34.33 | stew | /usr/sbin not /user/sbin (which should be in root's PATH already) |
| 15:34.48 | freebird_2 | stew, Which module(s) do you want to enable (wildcards ok)? |
| 15:34.55 | freebird_2 | stew, what should I choose ? |
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| 15:35.01 | stew | 11:30 < stew> freebird_2: try "a2enmod php5" |
| 15:35.40 | freebird_2 | debian:/usr/local/apache2/bin# a2enmod php5 |
| 15:35.40 | freebird_2 | ERROR: Module php5 does not exist! |
| 15:35.42 | freebird_2 | stew |
| 15:35.51 | stew | freebird_2: you have to install libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 15:36.19 | freebird_2 | stew, it was already installed |
| 15:36.51 | stew | freebird_2: then you must have deleted its config file |
| 15:37.16 | freebird_2 | whereis libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 15:37.19 | freebird_2 | sorry |
| 15:37.26 | stew | what do you mean? |
| 15:37.27 | jelly | /usr/local/apache2 sounds like a build from source |
| 15:37.29 | ansgar | freebird_2: Why do you have apache in /usr/local/...? |
| 15:37.31 | freebird_2 | sorry |
| 15:37.35 | bean-java | does anyone here have experience with apt-mirror used to "mirror" squeeze-main and backports? |
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| 15:37.42 | freebird_2 | well, everything was just fine |
| 15:37.50 | freebird_2 | until I decided to install gtk 2.0, |
| 15:37.51 | stew | oh, what? /usr/local? |
| 15:38.04 | freebird_2 | than, the problem started,. the apache 2 stopped |
| 15:38.08 | stew | bean-java: just assume someone does and ask your real question |
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| 15:38.21 | freebird_2 | I`ve remove manually all apache2 files from the pc, and have compiled a new one, |
| 15:38.26 | freebird_2 | working now, but php5 is missing |
| 15:38.41 | stew | freebird_2: you want #httpd then, this has nothing to do with debian |
| 15:38.56 | freebird_2 | httpd is already working |
| 15:39.04 | freebird_2 | php5 is installed, |
| 15:39.10 | freebird_2 | but they wont work |
| 15:39.12 | jelly | freebird_2: you replaced all debian's apache bits with custom locally built ones, so Debian-specific help does not apply any more |
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| 15:39.38 | ansgar | freebird_2: php5 for Debian's Apache package is installed. It might or might not work with one you compiled yourself. |
| 15:40.33 | anddam | stew: replaced thanks |
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| 15:41.09 | stew | freebird_2: so it sounds like perhaps you would just need to configure apache to use mod_php5 for php files |
| 15:41.22 | stew | freebird_2: and perhaps to load mod-php5 in the first place |
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| 15:41.37 | bean-java | ok..... as i was discussing with Kamper_kaiser yesterday i will be starting a volunteering gig where i go through and take donated computers and get them working again to sell for charity. the place i will be doing this doesn't have net acess so i want to use apt-mirror to have a complete copy of squeeze main and backports so i can install extras on these computers so that they are "Completely" ready for use. my question is has anyone else tried thi |
| 15:41.37 | bean-java | s? If so, did you have any problems? my laptop is running sid, and i am planning on running apt-mirror via chroot. |
| 15:41.38 | freebird_2 | jelly, how do I go, about being the way it was before ?? because after I`ve manually removed apache`s file, what was very stupid, I can`t install it anymore, alway fails |
| 15:42.02 | stew | bean-java: yes |
| 15:42.19 | jelly | freebird_2: If you haven't kept track of what you did, I suggest a reinstallation. |
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| 15:42.34 | bean-java | stew: yes? |
| 15:42.40 | stew | bean-java: yes. |
| 15:43.06 | stew | bean-java: i didn't really have problems. |
| 15:43.25 | freebird_2 | jelly, no, that would be crazy |
| 15:43.31 | freebird_2 | have just upgraded from lenny |
| 15:43.32 | stew | freebird_2: uninstall whatever you installed in /usr/local. purge all the apache/php related packages and reinstall them |
| 15:43.33 | freebird_2 | yesterday, |
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| 15:44.05 | bean-java | stew: should i run both "mirrors" via a single chroot? or have one mirror per chroot?....and will 60gigs be enough room for it |
| 15:44.15 | stew | freebird_2: if you don't want to purge (which will delete any config files) you might look at /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 15:44.25 | freebird_2 | stew, I`ve manually deleted apache`s files, now, when I apt-get install apache2, it wont work, because it counts on files that should be there, that it`s not, is there a way that debian can make that back ? |
| 15:44.43 | freebird_2 | stew, I`ve done that couple of times already |
| 15:44.48 | stew | freebird_2: like I said, /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 15:45.01 | freebird_2 | even purgint, some apache2 files will still stay, |
| 15:45.02 | stew | freebird_2: and i believe that at least some of those packages will be using ucf |
| 15:45.05 | freebird_2 | ok, I`ll check that |
| 15:45.12 | stew | freebird_2: which packages did you purge? |
| 15:45.12 | freebird_2 | ucf ? |
| 15:45.18 | freebird_2 | php5 and apache2 |
| 15:45.20 | stew | yes, ucf (/msg dpkg ucf) |
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| 15:45.56 | stew | freebird_2: right, this is why I said "all related pacakges" you would also need to do with with packages like apache2.2-common and php-common and libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 15:46.12 | stew | bean-java: i don't see why not run them in the same chrot. no, 60 gigs will not be enough |
| 15:46.36 | bean-java | stew: will it be enough for squeeze main? |
| 15:47.10 | stew | i dont think so, but I don't know. i don't have broken down numbers for each release, just for each arch |
| 15:47.25 | stew | http://www.debian.org/mirror/size <- but this is not just squeeze |
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| 15:48.08 | stew | so for all releases, not just squeeze, for just i386, you'd need 165 gigs? |
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| 15:49.55 | ansgar | bean-java: I have a partial lenny and squeeze mirror for i386, amd64 and source. It takes 126GB. Backports (lenny, squeeze) further 16 GB. |
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| 15:51.07 | ansgar | bean-java: So it *might* fit, but I would not rely on it. |
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| 15:52.40 | bean-java | ouch ouch..... i only have 65gigs total i can use..... could it be possible to not include certain packages.....something like exclude=depends=*mono*.....cause i might just use everything else...hmmm..... definetly need to sitdown and contemplate what i will be needing.... i know i doubt anything i will come across will be able to use kde. |
| 15:52.41 | anddam | bye |
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| 15:53.23 | matt1 | ketsa |
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| 15:55.06 | DasEi | bean-java: 65g for a full debian install ? more than sufficient |
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| 15:55.58 | stew | DasEi: no, not for an install, for a repository mirror |
| 15:56.14 | DasEi | ic, sorry, just flipped in |
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| 15:56.43 | bean-java | its all good dasei..... you were trying to help and for that i am thankfull |
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| 15:59.32 | ansgar | bean-java: Excluding *_amd64.deb and *.orig.tar.* leaves 62 GB for lenny+squeeze and 7 GB for (lenny+squeeze)-backports. |
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| 16:00.41 | bean-java | stew: do you know what is lighter lxde or xfce? or should i have some fun and go away from the ?4? main desktop environments...... but i have to remember that these people will have no idea what i have done to make said computer "work" |
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| 16:02.02 | bean-java | ansgar: thanks.... i think i will be leaving out gnome and kde "desktop-packages"..... i may need libs but not the actual packages.... does 62 gigs include those? |
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| 16:02.59 | stew | there might be legal problems with providing third parties with .debs for which they have no way to get source |
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| 16:04.56 | An_Ony_Moose_ | is it possible to pass a parameter to the kernel that stops it from starting the X server? |
| 16:05.02 | bean-java | stew: i am planning on adding what i can find as user manuals..... and i will be includeing information on how to obtain source for everything.....after all i won't be using anything but main+backports |
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| 16:12.30 | ujjain | Is running files with gcc compiling them? |
| 16:13.17 | An_Ony_Moose_ | ujjain: using gcc on a file compiles it, but you don't "run" the file in the process |
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| 16:13.40 | jelly | An_Ony_Moose_: you could boot in single user ("recovery") mode, and follow /msg dpkg nodm |
| 16:13.41 | ujjain | hmm, how about this ? |
| 16:13.43 | ujjain | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/archive/gcc3 ./ucc-bin server BR-Serenity?game=XGame.xBombingRun? |
| 16:13.50 | ujjain | what does it do? recompile before running? |
| 16:14.17 | An_Ony_Moose_ | jelly: how do I boot in said mode? |
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| 16:14.46 | jelly | An_Ony_Moose_: default debian boot menu gives you an option to do that. |
| 16:15.04 | An_Ony_Moose_ | jelly: oh right, thanks |
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| 16:16.32 | ansgar | bean-java: Yes, it also includes contrib and non-free. |
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| 16:17.49 | bean-java | ansgar: i will only be using main and maybe a few things from backports......like libreoffice and ?minitube?......no mono or programs dependent on mono.... |
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| 16:21.07 | kaista | hi guys, quick question, I am trying to setup a virtual interface/alias on my eth0 interface, currently the server has allow-hotplug eth0 and i have added a new section beginning with allow-hotplug eth0:1 is that ok? or should i use auto instead? |
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| 16:26.29 | bean-java | brb |
| 16:26.32 | rajkosto | how do i change the order of my network interfaces? |
| 16:26.36 | rajkosto | like i want to swap eth0 and eth1 |
| 16:26.39 | rajkosto | both phyiscal devices |
| 16:27.03 | nkuttler | rajkosto: ifrename |
| 16:27.04 | cahoot | %70 |
| 16:27.05 | dselect | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Squeeze, Lenny) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch). If you want the mappings to change, edit the respective file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" ("udevtrigger" on Etch) or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
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| 16:28.01 | rajkosto | that rules file says it was autogenerated |
| 16:28.06 | rajkosto | so wont my changes be overwritten |
| 16:28.41 | cahoot | try? |
| 16:29.20 | valdyn | rajkosto: think about the implications of changes being overwritten there |
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| 16:30.45 | rajkosto | i plan to restore a backup of th same debian version from a different machine |
| 16:30.52 | rajkosto | are there any more things i would have to change like this |
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| 16:33.21 | wildc4rd | evenin all |
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| 16:36.43 | efynn | how do I put my gnome 'programs' bar again, it just disappeared |
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| 16:37.33 | Nebukadneza | heho |
| 16:37.39 | Nebukadneza | i've got a little problem with kde and the kde-full package |
| 16:37.54 | Nebukadneza | i've installed kde-full to get kde, however i don't want one part of kde-full: kremotecontrol |
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| 16:37.55 | aminpy | I downloaded firefix-4.0.1.tar.bz2 and I extracted it, when I double click it's executable file (firefox) it doesn't run |
| 16:38.11 | Nebukadneza | what is the correct way to purge only kremotecontrol (which is not really needed by anything else) and keep the rest? |
| 16:38.13 | jellow | does gdm change the keyboard layout ? |
| 16:38.14 | aminpy | why!? |
| 16:38.35 | efynn | aminpy: try to run in a terminal and see the error output |
| 16:38.42 | Nebukadneza | aminpy: try starting it on the commandline and see the real error message |
| 16:39.02 | aminpy | what's command to run it in terminal? |
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| 16:39.31 | Nebukadneza | cd <whereever your executable is> && ./<your executable> |
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| 16:40.05 | babilen | Nebukadneza: Then don't install kde-full -- You could, on the other hand, mark all its dependencies as manually installed "aptitude unmarkauto '~R^kde-full$' '~RRecommends:^kde-full$'" |
| 16:40.14 | aminpy | Nebukadneza, http://dpaste.com/555132/ |
| 16:40.22 | Nebukadneza | babilen: ah, that was what i searched |
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| 16:40.40 | Nebukadneza | aminpy: then you need that library as it doesn't seem included with the firefox build you have |
| 16:40.41 | babilen | aminpy: Just install iceweasel -- or ask in a firefox specific channel. |
| 16:40.50 | Nebukadneza | however, why don't you just install firefox (or rather iceweasel)? |
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| 16:41.44 | cosmos2 | Hello |
| 16:41.51 | babilen | welcome |
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| 16:42.11 | Nebukadneza | babilen: mh, that didn't seem to work |
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| 16:42.25 | Nebukadneza | i don't see aptitude doing anything and well... still can't purge it ;/ |
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| 16:42.46 | cosmos2 | Is there a trick to make working a d-link dfe-670txd pcmcia card on debian squeeze? |
| 16:42.51 | babilen | Nebukadneza: Sure, just purge it. |
| 16:43.10 | Nebukadneza | ahhh uh |
| 16:43.15 | Nebukadneza | misunderstood what that did :) |
| 16:43.16 | Nebukadneza | got it now |
| 16:43.18 | Nebukadneza | thanks! |
| 16:43.28 | Nebukadneza | (i *really* oughta learn that strange aptitude pattern syntax) |
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| 16:43.37 | CalimeroTeknik | hello |
| 16:43.42 | babilen | Nebukadneza: What did you thought "unmarkauto" would do? And please use punctuation instead of the enter key :) |
| 16:43.55 | CalimeroTeknik | I was wondering if anybody could build aufs against 2.6.39? |
| 16:44.05 | Nebukadneza | gotcha. i think i misunderstood which packages got unmarked |
| 16:44.12 | babilen | CalimeroTeknik: No idea, be the first! |
| 16:44.22 | Nebukadneza | thanks :P |
| 16:44.43 | CalimeroTeknik | I'm trying to understand why the patch doesn't export the needed symbols |
| 16:44.47 | babilen | Nebukadneza: You are most welcome. Enjoy :) |
| 16:44.56 | CalimeroTeknik | well it looks to do so, but… |
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| 16:46.28 | cosmos2 | I've modify /etc/pcmcia/config (was empty) but still not working |
| 16:47.09 | jean_brat | hi ...how to restart the alsa sound driver? |
| 16:47.19 | jean_brat | su -c 'rcasasound restart' |
| 16:47.25 | jean_brat | is not seems to be working |
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| 16:49.27 | cahoot | alsa force-reload |
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| 16:49.43 | MrFrood | jean_brat: alsactl init (just an idea - I could be barking up the wrong tree) |
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| 16:52.30 | grand_grunt | I got troubles while trying to static compiling a soft under Debian 6.0. Trouble is "checking whether libcurl is usable... no". What package should I install under Debian? |
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| 16:52.49 | cahoot | libcurl-dev or such? |
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| 16:54.01 | grand_grunt | cahoot: there is libcurl4-dev, libcurl4-gnutls-dev, libcurl4-openssl-dev, same for libcurl3, with incompatibilities between |
| 16:54.18 | grand_grunt | Is where a way I could have "all the libcurl stuff I could need"? |
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| 16:55.41 | aminpy | I didn't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0! |
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| 16:56.37 | grand_grunt | "configure: error: Missing required libcurl >= 7.10.1" and all I can have are version 3 or 4 :/ |
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| 16:57.37 | grand_grunt | libcurl4-gnutls-dev deletes libcurl4-openssl-dev :/ |
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| 16:58.14 | babilen | %tell aminpy -about apt-file |
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| 16:58.53 | Bop | anyone installed moodle in debian ? |
| 16:59.07 | daveo | what does apt-file do? |
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| 16:59.22 | dclarke | question : is there a very simple gui that will report CPU usage and maybe disk IO and memory ? Just some trivial thing like xsensors but with graphical bars ? |
| 16:59.39 | daveo | conky! |
| 16:59.52 | babilen | daveo: Read the package description! It basically searches which package a file belongs to. "apt-file search libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0" → libgtk2.0-0 for example. |
| 17:00.02 | dclarke | daveo: try apt-file search libatk-1.0.so.0 |
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| 17:00.13 | daveo | thank you! |
| 17:00.33 | dclarke | thinks oh no .. Mr. "I am the law" is here |
| 17:00.40 | babilen | aminpy: btw ^^ might also be of interest to you |
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| 17:01.11 | aminpy | babilen, nice! |
| 17:01.24 | dclarke | let me try once more .... |
| 17:01.26 | dclarke | question : is there a very simple gui that will report CPU usage and maybe disk IO and memory ? Just some trivial thing like xsensors but with graphical bars ? |
| 17:01.35 | babilen | yes, conky |
| 17:01.40 | dclarke | conky ? |
| 17:01.43 | babilen | indeed |
| 17:01.52 | dclarke | does aptitude search conky and sees ... nothing |
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| 17:02.12 | babilen | ,versions conky |
| 17:02.13 | judd | Package conky on i386 -- lenny: 1.6.0-2; squeeze/contrib: 1.8.0-1; sid/contrib: 1.8.0-1.1; wheezy/contrib: 1.8.0-1.1 |
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| 17:02.33 | dclarke | funny .. aptitude can't find it .. |
| 17:02.43 | babilen | dclarke: Add contrib or search for a different tool if you don't want that. -- /msg dselect contrib |
| 17:02.47 | dclarke | looks like a contrib repo I guess |
| 17:02.51 | aminpy | installing firefox in debian is a big disaster! |
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| 17:03.13 | babilen | aminpy: Once again: Why don't you install iceweasel? |
| 17:03.28 | aminpy | babilen, I don't like iceweasel |
| 17:03.36 | dclarke | thinks .. its the same damn thing |
| 17:04.00 | babilen | aminpy: Iceweasel == Firefox % logo -- But ask a firefox channel if you want help with their software. |
| 17:04.11 | dclarke | aminpy: you may as well totally go off list and just install opera |
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| 17:04.18 | Nebukadneza | aminpy: name one enduser visible difference :) |
| 17:04.30 | daveo | firefox comes preinstalled on LM-xfce |
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| 17:04.32 | dclarke | the logo |
| 17:05.02 | Nebukadneza | aside from that |
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| 17:05.22 | babilen | Nebukadneza: You know very well that there is no difference apart from that. |
| 17:05.27 | grand_grunt | One can download the Firefox logo and put it for the shortcut of Iceweasel for grunty end users |
| 17:06.05 | twobitsprite | aminpy: I just installed firefox 4 on debian... tar jxvf firefox-4.0.1.tar.gz2; cd firefox; ./firefox & |
| 17:06.11 | Nebukadneza | babilen: i know, thats why i ask the one who says he dosnt like it to name the differences he doesn't like |
| 17:06.29 | babilen | twobitsprite: You know about http://mozilla.debian.net/ ? |
| 17:06.33 | MrFrood | Nebukadneza: the issue is probably the "age" of iceweasel in stable vs ff4 (and its mny differances) |
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| 17:06.46 | aminpy | twobitsprite, you are a lucky man! |
| 17:06.55 | aminpy | :D |
| 17:06.57 | babilen | MrFrood: Not an issue IW4 has been packaged for squeeze. |
| 17:07.00 | Nebukadneza | MrFrood: on stable okay, but you're not bound to use stable |
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| 17:07.09 | twobitsprite | babilen: yes, but since I'm the only user, it's just as easy for me to download the tarball and just make a desktop icon for it |
| 17:07.11 | Nebukadneza | MrFrood: i'm rather for "the debian buildfiles under-optimize" |
| 17:07.21 | Nebukadneza | i always build my own, more optimized packages |
| 17:07.21 | babilen | gnugr: Install the greek localisation then. |
| 17:07.26 | twobitsprite | aminpy: what are you doing to install it and why isn't it working? |
| 17:07.33 | babilen | And please do not /msg me. Ta! |
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| 17:08.03 | babilen | twobitsprite: Sure, just wanted to point it out. |
| 17:08.03 | MrFrood | Nebukadneza: I still use mosaic :-| |
| 17:08.09 | twobitsprite | babilen: yep, thanks :) |
| 17:08.12 | gnugr | babilen: theres no localisation for menu bar in iceweasel |
| 17:08.22 | twobitsprite | MrFrood: what, no lynx? |
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| 17:08.26 | dkr | hrm, installing an editor shouldn't update-alternatives to set it as the default. I'm adding options, don't want to confuse folks just trying to edit a crontab or the like by changing it from using vim |
| 17:08.52 | babilen | gnugr: You have to install the iceweasel-l10n-el package and set your locale accordingly |
| 17:08.53 | Nebukadneza | mosaic? |
| 17:09.06 | MrFrood | twobitsprite: yes to lynx but sometimes one just needs gui goodness :P |
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| 17:09.11 | gnugr | not exists |
| 17:09.11 | babilen | Nebukadneza: yes, mosaic. The best browser there is. (apart from surf) |
| 17:09.20 | babilen | ,versions iceweasel-l10n-el |
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| 17:09.21 | judd | Package iceweasel-l10n-el on i386 -- lenny: 1:3.0.6+debian-1; lenny-backports: 1:3.5.15+debian-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1:3.5.15+debian-1; sid: 1:3.5.16+debian-1; wheezy: 1:3.5.16+debian-1; experimental: 1:4.0.1+debian-1 |
| 17:09.24 | twobitsprite | MrFrood: do modern pages even render in mosaic? |
| 17:09.30 | babilen | gnugr: It sure does |
| 17:09.51 | gnugr | not for menu bar |
| 17:10.05 | gnugr | try it |
| 17:10.10 | MrFrood | twobitsprite: Nebukadneza: mosaic-ck = still maintained mosaic fork |
| 17:10.10 | Nebukadneza | mh |
| 17:10.13 | Nebukadneza | sounds interesting |
| 17:10.16 | Christoffer | How do I add an existing user to existing group without removing all other groups from that user? "usermod -G <newgroup> <user>" removed all other groups from that user |
| 17:10.33 | twobitsprite | MrFrood: Firefox = still maintained and updated mosaic fork :P |
| 17:10.36 | epsilon | just edit /etc/group |
| 17:10.59 | babilen | Christoffer: "adduser user group" |
| 17:11.26 | stew | Christoffer: or add -a to usermod |
| 17:11.33 | MrFrood | twobitsprite: if you believe that then the same could be said of msie |
| 17:11.34 | babilen | Christoffer: Please read "man adduser" :) |
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| 17:11.46 | Christoffer | babilen I will do that |
| 17:11.50 | Christoffer | thank you |
| 17:11.55 | stew | epsilon: if you are going to tell him that, at least tell him to do it using vigr |
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| 17:12.23 | babilen | Christoffer: You are welcome. Have a nice day. You might be interested in reading: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ |
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| 17:12.34 | trasz | any debian-kfreebsd developers here? |
| 17:12.42 | twobitsprite | MrFrood: nope... IE is it's own code base: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Timeline_of_web_browsers.svg |
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| 17:12.47 | MrFrood | %kbsd |
| 17:12.48 | dselect | Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular Debian package set. kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 were released as a "technology preview" for Squeeze, ask me about <install guide>. http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/doc/ http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_FAQ #debian-kbsd on irc.oftc.net. |
| 17:12.55 | trasz | MrFrood: thanks! |
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| 17:13.34 | fossala | When I try and restart tftpd it tells me "Restarting HPA's tftpd: in.tftpd missing, aborting" |
| 17:13.45 | cosmos2 | ok....I will continue to ron my usb ethernet adapter, bye |
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| 17:14.05 | MrFrood | twobitsprite: so has ff now pretty much almost all the c blobs have gone |
| 17:14.52 | twobitsprite | MrFrood: the gecko engine is still C, right? Sure, most of the UI stuff is javascript, but... |
| 17:15.43 | gnugr | babilen: ok fixed, now it works |
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| 17:16.13 | babilen | gnugr: wonderful, what was the fix? |
| 17:16.27 | gnugr | packages in sources.list |
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| 17:16.51 | babilen | gnugr: I don't follow |
| 17:17.10 | gnugr | backports |
| 17:17.46 | babilen | ok |
| 17:18.00 | MrFrood | twobitsprite: isn't gecko c++ ? I was talking about the pre mozillia c blobs |
| 17:18.28 | stew | blobs? |
| 17:18.32 | MrFrood | like the gopher rendering codde pulled from FF4 |
| 17:18.35 | Roybot | What permissions does Tranmission BT require on a download folder? I have added my user to debian-transmisson group. |
| 17:18.38 | twobitsprite | hmm... I'm not positive |
| 17:18.48 | twobitsprite | does anyone actually use gopher? |
| 17:19.04 | MrFrood | that did trace its roots back to mosaic |
| 17:19.21 | MrFrood | twobitsprite: yes - me |
| 17:19.53 | MrFrood | twobitsprite: /msg dselect gopher |
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| 17:21.00 | MrFrood | twobitsprite: I was in this case just using that as an example of a "c blob" |
| 17:21.07 | twobitsprite | yes, I know what gopher is... just surprised it's actually used for anything but old government legacy systems or something |
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| 17:21.27 | MrFrood | twobitsprite: retronerds :) |
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| 17:23.59 | MrFrood | !hello |
| 17:23.59 | dpkg | Hi, mrfrood! |
| 17:24.13 | MrFrood | yay dpkg is back |
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| 17:25.20 | twobitsprite | MrFrood: I can dig the retro from time to time... every now and then I get the urge to dial in to a BBS, but then I can never find an old modem or a BBS to dial in to... :( |
| 17:25.36 | twobitsprite | dpkg: where've you been? sleeping on the job again? |
| 17:25.37 | dpkg | twobitsprite: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 17:25.50 | twobitsprite | dpkg: abuse MrFrood |
| 17:25.50 | dpkg | smacks MrFrood across the face. |
| 17:25.59 | twobitsprite | ok, I'm done :P |
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| 17:26.20 | stew | twobitsprite: http://telehack.com/ :) |
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| 17:26.46 | twobitsprite | stew: is that work safe? (the "hack" seem suspicious) |
| 17:27.10 | stew | twobitsprite: it is, here is more info: http://telehack.com/telehack.html |
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| 17:28.15 | MrFrood | ouch |
| 17:28.17 | jelly-home | 20-Nov-90 :-D |
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| 17:37.08 | geshp | that telehack thing is pretty cool |
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| 17:37.35 | stew | geshp: watch out. its DEEP and addicting |
| 17:37.51 | geshp | haha |
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| 17:40.35 | dtcrshr | anyone can point me to a nice guide about debian + apache + mongrel + rails |
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| 17:42.51 | nkuttler | dtcrshr: i'd ask in the ror channel |
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| 17:43.21 | stew | perhaps if his list didn't start with "debian +" |
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| 17:44.19 | nkuttler | yeah, i'm sure there are no debian users in that channel |
| 17:45.05 | nkuttler | dtcrshr: /usr/share/doc/<package> as well |
| 17:45.08 | babilen | indeed -- the old love between ruby and debian :) -- dtcrshr: What is wrong with "aptitude install rails mongrel apache2" ? |
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| 17:48.35 | GNU\colossus | how (un)problematic is it, generally speaking, to run Debian Stable with a collection of individual packages (I'm thinking mostly about Debian's build of Firefox and Thunderbird, as well as the Kernel and probably the Xorg packages with their deps) from experimental? |
| 17:48.59 | Arrowmaster | very problematic |
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| 17:49.55 | GNU\colossus | so what Debian base should I build my collection of experimental craziness on? |
| 17:50.00 | catsup | Xorg/kernel would be very problematic |
| 17:50.04 | MrFrood | GNU\colossus: you are aware of backports? |
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| 17:50.24 | Arrowmaster | you can use stable and then use backports.debian.org for the new kernel and mozilla.debian.net for the new iceweasel/icedove, but xorg will be extremely problematic |
| 17:50.31 | karlpinc | !tell GNU\colossus about overview |
| 17:50.31 | catsup | firefox/thunderbird, merely problematic... |
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| 17:50.33 | GNU\colossus | MrFrood, I am, but I'm afraid they won't cover all I (think I) need :) |
| 17:50.45 | Arrowmaster | if you want to use stuff directly from experimental then you should be using unstable |
| 17:51.09 | GNU\colossus | ah, backports do have security support these days? neat. |
| 17:51.13 | catsup | GNU\colossus: you might be interested in grml for unstable |
| 17:51.14 | MrFrood | !tell GNU\colossus about ssd |
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| 17:51.49 | karlpinc | GNU\colossus: Yes, but not from the security team itself as I understand it so it may not get the same level of security support that stable does. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. |
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| 17:51.54 | GNU\colossus | MrFrood, I don't get what my SSD has got to do with my choice of distribution? |
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| 17:52.08 | MrFrood | GNU\colossus: oops |
| 17:52.14 | MrFrood | !tell GNU\colossus about ssb |
| 17:52.31 | GNU\colossus | ah ;) |
| 17:52.35 | GNU\colossus | makes much more sense to me now |
| 17:52.36 | MrFrood | GNU\colossus: hope that makes more sense |
| 17:52.41 | ketsa | I just installed ati driver from their website, and scrolling/moving a window is painfully slow... is it normal ? any ideas ? |
| 17:52.41 | GNU\colossus | indeed |
| 17:53.11 | Arrowmaster | backporting large things like xorg will still be problematic |
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| 17:53.20 | karlpinc | ketsa: The expected way to do it is to install such stuff from the non-free repos. |
| 17:53.38 | karlpinc | !tell ketsa about non-free |
| 17:53.54 | ketsa | ok i'll test this. fglrx from non free ? |
| 17:54.04 | GNU\colossus | can I just browse the backports archive somewhere? |
| 17:54.14 | jelly-home | GNU\colossus: http://backports.debian.org/ |
| 17:54.22 | karlpinc | !tell ketsa about fglrx |
| 17:54.48 | GNU\colossus | jelly-home, I'm on there. I can access the packages db by using some search frontend, but I'd like to gat a complete listing. |
| 17:54.50 | karlpinc | ketsa: (You want to install everything from Debian's repos unless you're experienced.) |
| 17:55.15 | jelly-home | GNU\colossus: oh, to what purpose? |
| 17:55.33 | GNU\colossus | to see what's offered to choose from :) |
| 17:55.34 | ketsa | looks like the bot isnt working btw. |
| 17:55.35 | karlpinc | ketsa: You'll need to undo everything you've done installing stuff from the ati website. Or so I imagine. |
| 17:56.02 | dclarke | question : my /etc/apt/sources.list shows me squeeze main however I don't see contrib. Where do I point aptitude to in order to get "conky" ? |
| 17:56.05 | karlpinc | ketsa: The bot seems to work. What are you typing? |
| 17:56.42 | jelly-home | GNU\colossus: sounds like you have a case of SNS! Anyway, it provides repositories in standard format so you, or apt, can get Packages* files if you wish |
| 17:56.45 | ketsa | ah yep, nevermind :p |
| 17:57.04 | GNU\colossus | SNS? |
| 17:57.07 | jelly-home | !sns |
| 17:57.07 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 17:57.20 | MrFrood | giggles |
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| 17:57.37 | dclarke | laughs until he wets himself |
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| 17:58.49 | GNU\colossus | hehe |
| 17:59.05 | GNU\colossus | I've been living with it since the early 2000s |
| 17:59.06 | dclarke | er .. so .. how do I get contrib software ? |
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| 17:59.48 | daemonkeeper | !contrib |
| 17:59.48 | dpkg | [contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ [lenny|squeeze|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then aptitude update. Also ask me about <non-free>. |
| 17:59.54 | karlpinc | can no longer recall how to find out what suite (main/non-free/etc) an installed package came from. |
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| 18:00.11 | dclarke | GNU\colossus : I have since 1977 when the Apple was released and the old heathkit stuff was all the craze |
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| 18:00.21 | jelly-home | karlpinc: apt-cache policy foo |
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| 18:00.36 | karlpinc | jelly-home: I thought I tried that. |
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| 18:00.46 | jelly-home | karlpinc: I thought you didn't! |
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| 18:01.07 | jelly-home | who's right?!?! |
| 18:01.17 | jelly-home | it's not important |
| 18:01.25 | jelly-home | Particle Man |
| 18:01.40 | karlpinc | jelly-home: Yes, I did try it. http://paste.debian.net/120087/ How does this tell me? |
| 18:02.09 | jelly-home | karlpinc: it tells you it's not available any more from any configured repo |
| 18:02.28 | jelly-home | or suite in any configured repo |
| 18:02.31 | jelly-home | ,versions conky |
| 18:02.32 | judd | Package conky on i386 -- lenny: 1.6.0-2; squeeze/contrib: 1.8.0-1; sid/contrib: 1.8.0-1.1; wheezy/contrib: 1.8.0-1.1 |
| 18:02.39 | karlpinc | jelly-home: Ah. (I've not yet gotten round to purging old lenny stuff after my upgrade of this box.) |
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| 18:02.49 | macrobat | !apt-listrepository |
| 18:02.50 | mrdeadlocked | So is there any changes that can be made to make skype work better with a USB headset? |
| 18:03.00 | daemonkeeper | macrobat: list repositories |
| 18:03.24 | macrobat | yes, ok |
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| 18:04.17 | stew | karlpinc: "dpkg -s pacakgename" will tell you the "Section" |
| 18:04.36 | stew | karlpinc: section would be something like "util" for man "contrib/util" for contrib "non-free/util" for non-free |
| 18:05.09 | karlpinc | stew: I'll try to remember that. (I my brain should get at least as far as 'dpkg', after which I can read the man page.) |
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| 18:11.40 | JPT | meh... i just want to create a file, put malicious code in it, do chmod +sx and chown 0:0 on it :/ |
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| 18:17.19 | jelly-home | JPT: that can be done in your browser. |
| 18:17.38 | JPT | :D |
| 18:17.45 | JPT | i know^^ but i need it on that vserver... |
| 18:18.18 | jelly-home | JPT: so run this in the vserver: http://bellard.org/jslinux/ |
| 18:18.20 | jelly-home | hides |
| 18:18.28 | JPT | LOL |
| 18:18.34 | JPT | mhh |
| 18:18.44 | JPT | lynx, you can do it! |
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| 18:19.59 | JPT | well, i hate that vps provider... you can change the root password in that control panel... but that panel does not take care of the sshd config.. |
| 18:20.07 | JPT | PermitRootLogin no |
| 18:20.10 | JPT | :D |
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| 18:20.35 | Leoneof | hello, the output of acpi -t is: "Thermal 0: ok, 98.5 degrees C" , i'm compiling, but the temp is ok? |
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| 18:20.53 | JPT | 98.5°C is enough to boil some water |
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| 18:21.03 | Leoneof | it is laptop :( |
| 18:21.10 | JPT | O_o |
| 18:21.12 | JPT | hmm |
| 18:21.21 | JPT | that's hot |
| 18:21.39 | Leoneof | when it will melt ? |
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| 18:21.50 | JPT | depends on the material |
| 18:21.56 | Leoneof | ok |
| 18:22.12 | JPT | about 300°C+ for aluminum |
| 18:22.22 | Leoneof | O_O |
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| 18:22.28 | Leoneof | how do i know that |
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| 18:22.44 | JPT | hmm..when it starts to melt, check the temperature |
| 18:22.53 | JPT | that'll help to determine the material |
| 18:23.20 | jelly-home | Leoneof: the fan might be failing; if that temp. sensor is correct, power off the damn thing NOW |
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| 18:23.40 | Leoneof | oh, CPU is 800 MHZ now , it was 2GHz |
| 18:23.59 | jelly-home | probably gone into thermal throttle mode |
| 18:24.15 | Leoneof | jelly-home: fan is ok, the weather here is hot, 45 C |
| 18:24.32 | avernos | if i want to use a newer kernel i should add the sources for backports? |
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| 18:25.20 | jelly-home | Leoneof: therma throttle gets activated when on-cpu-die sensors think it's too hot |
| 18:25.20 | jelly-home | Leoneof: switch it off, let it cool for an hour |
| 18:25.35 | JPT | except you want to kill it with fire... |
| 18:25.42 | Leoneof | jelly-home: i have been doing this for about one year, my poor cpu :/ |
| 18:25.48 | jelly-home | JPT: that goes without saying |
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| 18:26.08 | Leoneof | jelly-home: acpi can pass 100 C ? |
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| 18:28.00 | jelly-home | Leoneof: sorry, I've told you what I think is the sensible option and am done discussing this |
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| 18:28.15 | Leoneof | it is ok now, just used "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" for both core on PowerSave, this reduced the temp. |
| 18:28.25 | Leoneof | 71.5 now |
| 18:28.48 | Leoneof | jelly-home: thanks :) |
| 18:28.56 | Leoneof | JPT: thanks ;) |
| 18:29.11 | JPT | keep it alive :) |
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| 18:50.47 | jhutchins_lt2 | JPT: By definition, 98.5 is not hot enough to boil water unless you're at high altitude |
| 18:50.59 | JPT | well, i wasn't sure about that ;) |
| 18:51.05 | JPT | and 98.5 is still fine for a cup of tea ;) |
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| 18:51.34 | jhutchins_lt2 | yeah, 100 degrees C is defined as the boiling point of water at sea level. |
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| 18:53.49 | flu- | Any bash magicians in the house? |
| 18:54.00 | JPT | i know how to destroy data |
| 18:54.04 | cahoot | try #bash |
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| 18:56.12 | s3phir0th115 | Anyone mind looking at this dump? |
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| 18:56.14 | s3phir0th115 | http://pastebin.com/hYqc360T |
| 18:56.29 | Omer | merhaba türkçe konuşabilen birileri varmı burda |
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| 18:56.41 | wols_ | !tr |
| 18:56.41 | dpkg | somebody said tr was türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
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| 18:57.16 | s3phir0th115 | It was one of the things that showed up before my system crashed, and I'm curious if its worth investigation |
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| 19:01.46 | gezgin | Omer: Evet ama burada dil ingilizce. #debian.tr'nin aktif olduğundan da emin değilim. |
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| 19:18.32 | g0rd0n | anyone here has experience with mpich2? |
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| 19:23.04 | rhenani | hello guys |
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| 19:23.28 | twanny796 | rhenani: hello |
| 19:23.55 | rhenani | I have debian-6.0.1.iso and i want to install it in one netbook i have, i have a pen-drive (4.0GB) |
| 19:24.04 | rhenani | how do install debian from the usb? |
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| 19:24.29 | mysticsilent | you can make a usb install drive using unetbootin |
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| 19:24.41 | twanny796 | rhenani: what notebook do you have, I suppose you have to set it to boot from usb from the BIOS |
| 19:24.43 | babilen | !tell rhenani -about usb install |
| 19:24.55 | babilen | rhenani: Are you on *nix or ms windows? |
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| 19:25.23 | mysticsilent | Rhenani install unetbootin with packetmanager |
| 19:25.37 | rhenani | babilen: Both, i have a virtual machine running with windows 7, and my host that is where i am right now debian.6.0.1 squeze 64 bits |
| 19:25.56 | mysticsilent | start unetbootin and create a usb bootable drive with debian installer |
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| 19:26.06 | rhenani | so how is the process do i extraxt the iso into the flash-drive.. etc?? |
| 19:26.18 | wols_ | rhenani: dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdUSBDrive |
| 19:26.19 | mysticsilent | unetbootin will automatically let you choose the distro |
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| 19:26.24 | babilen | rhenani: Ok, then just "cat the_image.iso > /dev/sdX" (replace X with whatever your usb stick is) ... for example: cat the_image.iso > /dev/sdb |
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| 20:05.39 | mysticsilent | Whats the best way to install video drivers for this card? 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GT] (rev a2) |
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| 20:06.12 | jhutchins | !tell mysticsilent about nvidia |
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| 20:06.48 | aum | hi - running on debian testing, with intel 82865G graphics. when i type 'glxinfo' i get a whole lot of 'Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"' - my xorg.conf has a Load "glx" within the Section "Module" - any ideas of how to fix this? |
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| 20:08.04 | jhutchins | aum: How do you know your chipset supports fglrx |
| 20:08.41 | aum | jhutchins: i googled the chipset, there's a lot of hits that seem to say the chipset does support 3d accel |
| 20:09.06 | jhutchins | aum: In Linux? |
| 20:09.13 | aum | yes |
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| 20:09.25 | jhutchins | aum: Well, that's certainly a good sign. |
| 20:09.26 | aum | a few ubuntu users seem to have got 3d working |
| 20:09.46 | jhutchins | aum: I presume you're on stable and have kms enabled, and the intel driver? |
| 20:09.56 | aum | i have the intel driver\ |
| 20:10.06 | aum | how do i check if kms is enabled? |
| 20:10.46 | jhutchins | aum: With the standard squeeze kernel it should be. |
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| 20:11.15 | jhutchins | aum: Your /var/log/Xorg.0.log should tell you something if you can manage to sort through it. |
| 20:11.18 | aum | hang on, i need to explicitly load the intel driver in xorg.conf |
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| 20:11.30 | jhutchins | aum: What's it using instead? |
| 20:12.18 | aum | there's no "Driver" statement in section "Device" |
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| 20:12.41 | aum | i guess i should add 'Driver "intel"' and see what happens |
| 20:13.02 | aum | jhutchins: thanks for your ideas :) |
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| 20:15.51 | thewanderer1 | hi, is there a way Finch could issue notifications to my desktop when it's running on a remote screen session? |
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| 20:17.41 | jhutchins | Just turn up the volume on the remote. |
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| 20:24.21 | szbalint | why isn't iceweasel >=4.x in sid yet? |
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| 20:24.46 | babilen | szbalint: Not ready yet -- http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 20:24.48 | Computer | is it safe to remove folders from /lib/modules ? |
| 20:25.01 | Computer | i think my root partition became full |
| 20:25.12 | Computer | and it may be because when i partitioned, the kernel was significantly smaller |
| 20:25.14 | szbalint | why isn't it ready yet? What needs to be done? |
| 20:25.29 | babilen | No, don't do that. Rather clean your package cache. Run "aptitude autoclean" or "aptitude clean" |
| 20:25.47 | thinksteve | Computer: You might want to clean with aptitude. |
| 20:25.51 | Computer | cool thanks |
| 20:26.30 | Computer | hmm Freed 0B of disk space |
| 20:27.17 | thinksteve | Now it's time for the question, why you're running out of space. |
| 20:27.24 | Computer | aye |
| 20:27.46 | Computer | the partition is 259M |
| 20:28.03 | Computer | lib is 167M |
| 20:28.06 | szbalint | I know that people recommend installing a recent version of iceweasel from experimental, but I'm not aware of a clear answer of what is still TBD in order to get it into sid. |
| 20:28.16 | Computer | etc is 22M |
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| 20:29.23 | Computer | any ideas? |
| 20:29.29 | Bushmills | 259 MiB for root partition? check size of /usr/share/doc |
| 20:29.48 | thinksteve | Computer: What release are you running? |
| 20:29.56 | Computer | its 170M |
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| 20:30.07 | Computer | but /usr has its own partition |
| 20:30.19 | Arrowmaster | 259 MiB sound about normal, mines 243 MiB |
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| 20:30.43 | Bushmills | move that somewhere else to, and mount --bind the new locaton to /usr/share/doc |
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| 20:31.24 | Computer | thinksteve: lenny |
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| 20:32.22 | Arrowmaster | Computer: i think you need to increase the size of the partition if its only 259 MiB |
| 20:32.54 | Computer | hmmm |
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| 20:33.13 | Computer | perhaps i will do that later tonight |
| 20:33.31 | babilen | Computer: What kind of machine is that? I haven't seen partitions like this in some time. :) |
| 20:33.34 | Computer | no idea on a quicker fix for now though? |
| 20:33.44 | Bushmills | i just gave you one |
| 20:34.04 | Computer | babilen: when you let the debian installer configure your partitions for you, there are 3 options and this is one of them |
| 20:34.07 | babilen | Computer: "aptitude clean" didn't help at all? And Bushmills' tip is quite a good one. |
| 20:34.19 | Computer | Bushmills: sorry. im not understading what you mean |
| 20:34.20 | babilen | Computer: Ah, right. Don't do that :) |
| 20:34.33 | Computer | Bushmills: /usr/share/doc should be on the /usr partition which is separate from /, right? |
| 20:35.10 | Computer | as when i do df -h i am seeing a /usr partition |
| 20:35.17 | Bushmills | it may be seperate but that doesn't make a lot of sense with smaller disks |
| 20:35.39 | Computer | the disk is a very large one |
| 20:35.50 | Computer | okay well im going to try it now anyway |
| 20:36.15 | Bushmills | if /usr isn't on your root partition, then don't bother |
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| 20:36.42 | alfa_y_omega | hi |
| 20:37.04 | Computer | yeah, its not. i moved /usr/share/doc to another partition and it didn't free anything up on / anyway |
| 20:37.08 | alfa_y_omega | how to pack pypy-1.5-linux to debian package? |
| 20:37.41 | Computer | babilen: no, aptitude clean and autoclean did not free any space |
| 20:38.01 | Computer | maybe i should remove old kernel packages? |
| 20:38.13 | Bushmills | i'd probably move all of on partition which is larger than your root partition to a newly created top level directory corresponding with its mount point, then move contents of current root there, and make that myx new root |
| 20:39.09 | Bushmills | gives you a free 260 MiB partition which could become /boot |
| 20:39.36 | Bushmills | end of worry that kernels use space on root partition |
| 20:39.40 | Arrowmaster | Computer: yes remove old kernel packages if you have any |
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| 20:40.10 | Computer | ah, they are all marked v it looks like |
| 20:40.12 | Computer | and some of them have depends |
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| 20:41.51 | jhutchins_lt | Computer: This is why a single partition makes more sense. |
| 20:42.09 | Computer | yeah |
| 20:42.14 | Computer | or, fewer than this many |
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| 20:42.36 | Bushmills | in general, the more disks you have (not partitions), the more sense it makes to have several mount points. the fewer disks, the fewer partitions i'd use to mount your directory hierarchy together |
| 20:43.24 | Computer | alright i gotta go. im coming back later tonight to take care of this |
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| 20:43.32 | Computer | i think i will increase the size of / |
| 20:43.34 | Bushmills | splitting /usr into an own partition doesn't isn't hugely useful on one single disk |
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| 20:43.52 | Bushmills | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.18 | Bushmills | but with two disks, having /usr on one, and / an another could be a good idea |
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| 20:45.24 | Bushmills | alternatively, /home on one, and / on another (without an extra partition for /usr) |
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| 20:47.12 | jhutchins_lt | Really, if you're going to split the filesystem up intellegently, you have to know exactly how the system is going to be used and where it will need space. |
| 20:47.30 | jhutchins_lt | Mail & Web server? /var better be big. |
| 20:47.46 | jhutchins_lt | Lots o' users with lots o' videos? /home needs room. |
| 20:48.02 | Bushmills | multiple disks -> reduce head seeks |
| 20:48.07 | jhutchins_lt | Building and testing software? You might neeed space on /usr. |
| 20:48.17 | Bushmills | multiple partitions on one disk -> increase seeks |
| 20:49.46 | Nu^253r | hi where can i find info on drive encryption and how to get it back, if i reinstaled deb? |
| 20:50.15 | Bushmills | !luks |
| 20:50.15 | dpkg | Linux Unified Key Setup (LUKS) is a disk encryption specification with a platform-independent format. http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/ . To access on Microsoft Windows systems, see http://freeotfe.org/ and <ext2read>. |
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| 20:50.19 | Bushmills | !encfs |
| 20:50.19 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, encfs is a package for an encrypted virtual filesystem. See http://packages.debian.org/encfs and https://we.riseup.net/debian/encrypted-folder-using-encfs |
| 20:50.32 | Nu^253r | thanx Bushmills |
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| 21:05.20 | jon8 | i'm running debian 6, where is the kernel config file? to see what the kernel was configured with |
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| 21:07.07 | mysticsilent | hi thx all i now have direct rendering with my nvidia 8800gt install using the debian way with non-free drivers |
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| 21:07.13 | mysticsilent | dirk@Mysticsilent:~$ glxinfo |grep rendering |
| 21:07.13 | mysticsilent | direct rendering: Yes |
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| 21:08.43 | mysticsilent | can anyone tell me how to enable second screen to use as dual screen? |
| 21:08.44 | Bushmills | jon8: in /boot |
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| 21:10.00 | Bushmills | mysticsilent: check out xrandr or one of its graphical frontends |
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| 21:11.52 | mysticsilent | ty bushmills I will check this out ^^ |
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| 21:21.01 | jon8 | is there an easy way to tell which process is using which specific core on my cpu? |
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| 21:27.05 | frostschutz | jon8: processes don't necessarily use specific cores, they get switched around a lot. unless you force them to a specific core... |
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| 21:32.39 | lindenle | Hi guys any tool or method to move back from Ubutu install to debian install. I have had enough of this crap and want to come home |
| 21:32.53 | catsup | just use the debian installer and preserve /home |
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| 21:33.16 | lindenle | catsup: only issue there is that home is an encrypted partition |
| 21:33.26 | catsup | no problem |
| 21:33.30 | lindenle | /home/lindenle/.Private on /home/lindenle |
| 21:33.36 | lindenle | I need the key or something right |
| 21:33.37 | catsup | it's just luks right |
| 21:33.40 | lindenle | ? |
| 21:33.43 | lindenle | type ecryptfs |
| 21:33.46 | catsup | don't you enter the key on boot |
| 21:33.50 | Bushmills | lindenle: netinst boot image |
| 21:33.56 | catsup | oh |
| 21:33.58 | lindenle | no, Ubuntu did something automagically |
| 21:34.12 | catsup | i don't know ecryptfs, check its docs |
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| 21:35.11 | catsup | but one would think the secret is a passphrase you type when you log in |
| 21:35.33 | lindenle | which I am guessing matches my normal password and is handled in gdm pam config |
| 21:35.38 | catsup | or such (iow, not on disk) |
| 21:36.06 | catsup | yeah probably |
| 21:36.27 | catsup | otherwise it's not very useful :) |
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| 21:40.07 | epsilon | um, I have a squeeze installation and need to update grub. I have update-grub and -grub2, where do I see if a system is using grub1 oder grub2? I |
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| 21:44.58 | jhutchins_lt | epsilon: I would try update-grub first. It has worked for me. |
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| 21:46.59 | Bushmills | epsilon: time stamps of /boot/grub/menu.lst and grub.cfg could tell. if menu.lst got updated, it is grub1. grub.cfg means grub2 |
| 21:48.31 | epsilon | kk |
| 21:48.35 | Bushmills | though grub-update of the "wrong" grub may have no effect during boot, as install-grub will have determined what grub was installed. disktype /dev/device might tell |
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| 21:54.54 | [sr] | howdy people |
| 21:55.03 | [sr] | i have a "problem" with the lilo package |
| 21:56.10 | Bushmills | thanks for telling us |
| 21:56.29 | [sr] | it's searching for /dev/disk/by-uuid when i don't have that (udev) on this machine |
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| 21:56.41 | [sr] | any way to fix this on the debian package? |
| 21:57.17 | Bushmills | don't use that non-existing uuid in your config |
| 21:57.34 | [sr] | that's the point, i'm not |
| 21:58.30 | Bushmills | did you run lilo, after removing that uuid from the lilo config? |
| 21:59.08 | [sr] | Bushmills: never had that in lilo.conf |
| 21:59.15 | [sr] | check: http://pastebin.com/b2L0fARQ |
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| 22:00.35 | Bushmills | why don't you have a /dev/disk/by-uuid directory? |
| 22:01.05 | [sr] | dont have udev on this machine |
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| 22:01.42 | ompaul | [sr] why not? |
| 22:02.12 | Bushmills | maybe creating an empty /dev/disk/by-uuid directory works around the problem |
| 22:02.40 | [sr] | ompaul: no special reason... this machine never had and as i never got the need of it |
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| 22:04.27 | [sr] | Bushmills: cool, the empty dir solved it :) |
| 22:05.04 | jhutchins_lt | !win |
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| 22:30.05 | rypervenche | Where can I go to ask to have a Chinese font (CC by-nd) integrated into the Debian packages? |
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| 22:34.26 | thewanderer1 | !tell rypervenche about rfp |
| 22:34.55 | kzmrbtx | i have a pc connected to a wireless network (which provides internet) and my local network (which also provides internet, another IP). how do i make the wireless interface the primary interface for internet access? |
| 22:35.00 | rypervenche | thewanderer1: Thank you. |
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| 22:39.34 | lv_ | hey guys, i find myself more and more not using xwindows on this notebook.. surviving with tmux and links ... am a laptop power maniac... how do you suggest i use networkmanager or iwlconfig to connect (or maintain) a wireless connection when killing /etc/init.d/gdm ?? |
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| 22:40.49 | th0r | lv_: install ifup/ifdown/ifconfig |
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| 22:41.23 | th0r | lv_: but as I understand it, if you do you will have to use them all the time, no more network mangler or wicd |
| 22:41.24 | xyan | lv_: networkmanager is shit, its polling stuff all the time wasting cpu cycles, use iwconfig and if you stick to dhclient make sure to kill it after obtaining an ip address. that saves half a watt for me here |
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| 22:45.23 | lv_ | xyan, th0r thanks |
| 22:45.29 | lv_ | will RTFM on iwconfig |
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| 22:50.58 | karlpinc | lv_: Doesn't gdm just sit there doing nothing and swap out? (gdm3?) |
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| 22:51.33 | evildaemon | Is there a minimal install image? (Or is the netinstall it?) |
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| 22:52.18 | karlpinc | evildaemon: There's a business card image that's even smaller, but then I think it needs to download even the standard install so you use the bandwidth either way. |
| 22:53.29 | karlpinc | evildaemon: (Standard being a small step above the bare minimum needed to run, so no X or net daemons or anything in the standard install.) |
| 22:54.06 | evildaemon | That's good enough. |
| 22:54.16 | evildaemon | It's not like I'm doing LFS |
| 22:54.35 | karlpinc | evildaemon: Yah, but you may as well have it on the install medium so you don't download repeatedly if you install more than once. |
| 22:54.45 | evildaemon | So, netinstall? |
| 22:54.49 | karlpinc | evildaemon: yes. |
| 22:54.56 | evildaemon | (I assume the 180MB is half the kernel?) |
| 22:55.30 | karlpinc | evildaemon: Dunno how it breaks down. Surely the kernel is large. |
| 22:55.46 | lv_ | karlpinc: nah, i just /etc/init.d/gdm and it brings the network mgr with it. i'm not running gdm3 |
| 22:55.50 | rypervenche | When trying to submit a RFP, it says that it cannot connect to Debian BTS. Is it ok if I continue or is this a problem? |
| 22:56.00 | evildaemon | 300+ MB last time I downloaded. |
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| 22:57.33 | karlpinc | rypervenche: Dunno. My guess is you could keep going and that it's only checking so it can give you a list to see if you're submitting a duplicate. But that's a guess. |
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| 23:01.03 | rypervenche | karlpinc: Ah ok, that works. Thanks. |
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| 23:04.33 | earthmeLon | What's the line that I can add to my .ssh/config file to prevent Public Key Authentication for a specific host? |
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| 23:05.25 | ries | Hello! What is a proper name for a release candidate 1.0.0-RC1 or 1.0.0RC1, with or without the dash? |
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| 23:07.24 | earthmeLon | Whenever I connect to a new host, My computer attempts to use every public key that I have. Is there a way to prevent this and only use public keys that I specify with a host in my .ssh/config file? |
| 23:07.42 | ries | earthmeLon: .ssh/config? |
| 23:07.59 | earthmeLon | ~/.ssh/config Yes, ries |
| 23:08.16 | rypervenche | Under the RFP reportbug, it asks for the "upstream author". Would that be the author of the font? |
| 23:08.28 | ries | earthmeLon: I have the Host and on the next line the IdentifyFile |
| 23:09.17 | earthmeLon | ries, I have public key authentication set up successfully. The problem is, whenever I try to ssh to new hosts, I get "Too many failed attempts" because my computer is using every key file I have. I need to prevent public key authentication for hosts not found in my config file. |
| 23:09.45 | ries | earthmeLon: Ahh .... sorry.. that one I didn't know, but I never seen that actually... |
| 23:09.53 | ries | properly a setting somewhere. |
| 23:09.57 | earthmeLon | Yeah, it's becaues I have 20 keys lol |
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| 23:10.06 | earthmeLon | It is a setting. I am unable to find the setting though |
| 23:10.20 | earthmeLon | I know it's a setting, I just can't remember and google is not returning anything relevant |
| 23:10.52 | earthmeLon | PubkeyAuthentication no |
| 23:10.54 | earthmeLon | That easy, eh? |
| 23:10.55 | earthmeLon | :P |
| 23:11.08 | ries | earthmeLon: was just about to..... :) |
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| 23:14.12 | rypervenche | Under the RFP reportbug, it asks for the "upstream author". Would that be the author of the program that I am requesting? Or would that be my name? |
| 23:14.21 | hobophobe | When I look at the image linked from http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/i16sl/i_tried_to_teach_my_dog_to_swim_but_she_was/ in eog, iceweasel, gimp, it causes my screen to flicker badly, but it's okay in chromium-browser. Just wondering how I should track down the cause? |
| 23:15.22 | hobophobe | The image link is http://i.imgur.com/8hbJm.jpg and it's of one dog trying to pull another dog into the water by the leash |
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| 23:16.46 | duckx0r | I'm trying to decide on an OS for a new server. I've basically on the fence between Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and Debian 6. I've been using Ubuntu on my desktop/laptop and many other PCs for years, however I'm wondering if there would be much of a learning curve if I decided to go with Debian. |
| 23:16.53 | dondelelcaro | rypervenche: that would be the author of the program that you're requesting be packaged |
| 23:17.07 | dondelelcaro | duckx0r: there shouldn't be much, no. |
| 23:17.45 | hobophobe | My guess is that it's a problem with my video driver (nvidia blob), because the apps it flickers for, it shows a badly broken image that's not related to the actual content of the image, so it is probably pulling from the wrong part of memory? |
| 23:18.47 | duckx0r | dondelelcaro, thanks. |
| 23:19.16 | dondelelcaro | hobophobe: hard to say, shows perfectly well here |
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| 23:19.38 | rypervenche | dondelelcaro: Ok, thanks. |
| 23:21.30 | hobophobe | Thanks dondelelcaro |
| 23:28.17 | hobophobe | Very odd. I used GIMP to save it as jpg, then that jpg as png, then that png as tga, and all of them still cause that behavior. |
| 23:28.49 | hobophobe | I guess that points to the video driver not liking to render the actual bit pattern? |
| 23:29.38 | daniel-s | what is the best way to get perl6 on debian? |
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| 23:34.43 | hobophobe | ...I'm at a loss, I tried convert -spread 50 -despeckle on it, with output as BMP, and it *still* flickers on that image. |
| 23:36.21 | somiaj | aum: if you are trying to run glx with an intel graphics driver why does your xlorg log say its loading the nvidia glx module, do you have nvidia-glx installed? |
| 23:36.48 | somiaj | its also loading the nvidia-legacy glx module version 173.14.30 |
| 23:36.53 | aum | somiaj: i moved my disks from a machine with nvidia to one without |
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| 23:37.17 | somiaj | aum: uninstall all the prorprty nvidia stuff, espically the glx drivers, that is probabaly why it isn't working |
| 23:37.18 | aum | somiaj: how do i change it to load a non-nvidia glx module? |
| 23:37.30 | aum | ok |
| 23:37.45 | somiaj | aum: the package nvidia-glx overwrites via alternatives the default opensource glx (mesa) and won't work with your intel card. Remove it |
| 23:38.12 | aum | i installed nvidia from the nvidia website, not the nvidia-glx package |
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| 23:38.24 | aum | so after i remove nvidia, how do i replace it with the opensource glx? |
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| 23:40.16 | somiaj | aum: My guess is you should already have the mesa installed. but you can check (I forget the pcakge name) |
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| 23:40.32 | somiaj | aum: also you may want to sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old_comp |
| 23:40.48 | somiaj | aum: you shouldn't need an xorg.conf and you are getting lots of warings and its mostly automatically detected these days |
| 23:41.24 | somiaj | aum: libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri are most likely the two packages you need if they aren't alreayd installed, libglu1-mesa and mesa-utils are also useful |
| 23:42.14 | aum | ok, installing |
| 23:42.24 | aum | somiaj: i really appreciate your help :) |
| 23:44.01 | aum | needs to quit to restart X... |
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| 23:46.03 | hobophobe | Hmm. Resizing the image cause it to not flicker. |
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| 23:46.11 | aum | somiaj: 3d is now working, many many thanks again :) |
| 23:46.16 | hobophobe | Now to see if I make an image of that size, if it flickers... |
| 23:46.42 | somiaj | aum: well the fact that your Xorg.log mentioned Nvidia you should have seen that was the issue. (: |
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| 23:47.18 | aum | somiaj: that's a fair cop - i just didn't know about nvidia overwriting legitimate package - that's not very good |
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| 23:47.35 | halflife08 | hello, when is a file descriptor really considered closed for a network socket? say opensocket(); fd=writetosocket(); closesocket(). will be fd still considered to be used until the final FIN transaction is complete ? will this affect the number of open file descriptors limit ? |
| 23:49.01 | hobophobe | Okay. Something doesn't like image of size 2047x1529 |
| 23:49.29 | somiaj | aum: its not an overwrite persay, it uses the alternatives system ... you can probabaly have them both installed and tell your computer to use the free mesa glx driver, but it was better to just uninstall it |
| 23:49.46 | fzman | hi room |
| 23:49.48 | somiaj | aum: also since you were using an old xorg.conf and don't need custom ones for the free drivers just cleaing that all out was the best call |
| 23:49.54 | aum | well, as long as it's all working now :) |
| 23:49.58 | somiaj | hobophobe: what is it you are trying to do |
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| 23:50.58 | hobophobe | somiaj: I encountered image that causes my screen to flicker badly and not display properly in iceweasel and eog, was trying to find out why. Turns out it's the *size* of the image alone is somehow causing that. |
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| 23:51.10 | somiaj | halflife08: ##c or ##kernel might be better sources of info. |
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| 23:52.30 | somiaj | hobophobe: sounds like a bad vsync value that just happens to effect that image size -- maybe you should try using feh (some non gtk viewer) and see if its a bug with the image |
| 23:53.21 | halflife08 | somiaj: thank you |
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| 23:55.36 | hobophobe | somiaj: with feh I still get a tiny bit of flickering, but the images of that dimensions display properly |
| 23:56.16 | mufumbo | hey guys, I had a lenny xen Dom0 that i upgraded to squeeze, but it is a mess now, it won't boot, there's any way to fix? |
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| 23:57.26 | hobophobe | Actually, the flickering of feh goes away if I set its geometry (-g) |
| 23:58.50 | somiaj | hobophobe: flickering is usually a bad vsync setting, check your Xorg.log, xvidtune, etc to see if your vsync is setting corrctaly |
| 23:59.38 | somiaj | mufumbo: depends on what you mean by won't boot. You first have to identify what is causing the booting problem, is it a kernel? udev? initrd? etc etc |
