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| 00:07.30 | geshp | how would you remove a file named "*" properly anyhow? |
| 00:07.45 | geshp | rm ? in that case would do it |
| 00:07.54 | geshp | ?? |
| 00:08.15 | dvs | rm \* ? |
| 00:10.12 | geshp | ah i didnt know the \ in shell makes the next char literal |
| 00:10.27 | dvs | usually |
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| 00:10.52 | geshp | good to know |
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| 00:11.02 | MrFrood | man pages are wonderful things |
| 00:12.17 | charlvn | or wrapping it in quotes |
| 00:12.19 | charlvn | rm "*" |
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| 00:14.37 | Xano | Under debian, is _www the apache user? |
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| 00:15.15 | charlvn | Xano: isn't that www-data? not entirely sure now |
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| 00:19.19 | howoriginalAU | Morning everyone |
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| 00:24.26 | Xano | I have a directory that's set to 777, but I can't chown to www-date |
| 00:24.34 | Ex-Opesa | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.51 | benji0987 | is it a good place to ask a question about TIME_WAIT ? |
| 00:26.03 | jelly-hme | benji0987: what about ##networking |
| 00:26.09 | benji0987 | sounds awesome |
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| 00:46.20 | howoriginalAU | Hi everyone - I've been told that I should probably consider changing the default text editor from nano to something else (and I have been recommended vi(m)). How does a complete noob go about this? |
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| 00:46.52 | nevyn | howoriginalAU: update-alterntives --config default-text-editor |
| 00:47.20 | howoriginalAU | thank you, I'll see how that goes |
| 00:47.24 | nevyn | bleh |
| 00:47.26 | nevyn | it's changed. |
| 00:47.30 | howoriginalAU | oh has it |
| 00:47.31 | nevyn | howoriginalAU: update-alterntives --config editor |
| 00:48.02 | howoriginalAU | alright, do I select 2 for /usr/bin/vim.tiny? |
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| 00:49.00 | diytto | I accidentally set my screen resolution to a bad resolution and now nothing will show. How can i fix this? |
| 00:49.16 | nevyn | howoriginalAU: so installing vim-full or vim-nox would be reccomended |
| 00:49.29 | howoriginalAU | ok and will I find that in synaptic? |
| 00:50.07 | nevyn | just put vim in the search box of synaptic |
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| 00:50.13 | howoriginalAU | I'm not really sure how to install things in terminal just yet |
| 00:50.15 | howoriginalAU | ok |
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| 00:50.37 | diytto | How can i set my screen resolution via terminal? |
| 00:50.43 | nevyn | howoriginalAU: aptitiude install vim-nox |
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| 00:51.22 | howoriginalAU | ah so I use aptitude, fair enough. Thank you nevyn :) Would you recommend I always try to find it in synaptic before I do anything else? |
| 00:52.59 | MrFrood | howoriginalAU: su -c aptitude install package-name.deb |
| 00:53.09 | howoriginalAU | thanks MrFrood :) |
| 00:53.29 | howoriginalAU | I ended up installing it and selected vi.basic as the text editor |
| 00:53.39 | MrFrood | ok |
| 00:54.29 | jhutchins_lt | Having cut my computer teeth as a mainframe operator, I still don't quite sync with the model of the unprivilaged user performing administrative tasks. |
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| 00:54.55 | nevyn | howoriginalAU: you need to find the name of the package somehow |
| 00:55.01 | jhutchins_lt | I am the BOFH. You will call me and petition for your administrative task to be done, if I'm in a good mood. |
| 00:55.12 | nevyn | howoriginalAU: I actually prefer apt-cache search blah for this |
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| 00:55.55 | jhutchins_lt | nevyn: aptitude search is supplanting that. |
| 00:56.17 | minh | Hi there! During the last days I experienced some problems with iwlagn ("MAC is in deep sleep") - is this a common issue lately? |
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| 00:56.53 | nevyn | jhutchins_lt: I know but aptitude search seems to give less useful results for me. |
| 00:57.15 | jhutchins_lt | nevyn: Thus we have the miriad options that are linux. |
| 00:57.21 | jhutchins_lt | minh: No. |
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| 00:57.44 | jhutchins_lt | minh: Interesting problem though. |
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| 00:58.47 | nevyn | jhutchins_lt: do a simple search in both and diff the results |
| 00:58.51 | nevyn | they're quite different |
| 00:59.33 | jhutchins_lt | Nice to have the alternatives. |
| 01:00.41 | howoriginalAU | ah I see thanks guys |
| 01:01.34 | diytto | Is there a way to reset my screen resolution settings and set them to default |
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| 01:05.59 | guard_ | Hi, ive been trying to install debian for days without success, instead i got this error, |
| 01:06.35 | guard_ | "failed while handling '/devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input0 |
| 01:06.54 | howoriginalAU | diytto: if you're not in a rush, maybe it would help to ask your question in the forum? |
| 01:07.43 | diytto | Hmm |
| 01:07.44 | diytto | Maybe |
| 01:07.45 | diytto | :s |
| 01:07.49 | diytto | I don't know ill see |
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| 01:13.13 | howoriginalAU | jiytto: it might be worth it if you need help :) |
| 01:13.29 | howoriginalAU | or you could just repeat your question several times until one of the 1039 people here answer :D |
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| 01:22.37 | trisomia | Hello |
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| 01:23.34 | veronicaa | hi |
| 01:23.34 | trisomia | anyone can help me? |
| 01:24.35 | trisomia | how i can use ntfs-3gon fstab to mount a ntfspartition in rw ? |
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| 01:25.40 | trisomia | hello there? |
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| 01:37.32 | veronicaa | trisomia whats ntfs-3gon for? |
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| 01:38.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps I was just wondering is it ok if i just dd my / to my new LV instead of rebooting into a live cd? or would that mess it up? |
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| 01:43.24 | nevyn | Eryn_1983_FL: I'd use the live cd. |
| 01:43.50 | nevyn | the problem is that if stuff is modified during the dd you could have an inconsistant filesystem |
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| 01:46.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 01:47.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | wish i had done this last time. |
| 01:47.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | tired of having the dang root on the partitions i need to remove.. |
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| 01:58.56 | grappr | just installed squeeze, can't set my resolution higher than 1280x1024... wtf? |
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| 01:59.52 | debsan | grappr, what driver are you using ? |
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| 02:00.42 | grappr | debsan: i've no idea. |
| 02:00.44 | nsadmin | grappr, what ress do your display support? |
| 02:00.50 | grappr | i want 1680x1050 |
| 02:00.54 | grappr | that's native |
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| 02:02.26 | grappr | thanks for the help, guys |
| 02:03.42 | nsadmin | you might look at your /var/log/X* log, somewhere in there should display the results of the edid read |
| 02:04.21 | nsadmin | you may or may not have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 02:04.33 | nsadmin | not sure that's the exact name |
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| 02:04.55 | grappr | nsadmin: Xorg.0.log is longer than a book, also i can't read it very clearly because everything is stretched the fuck out due to the improper resolution |
| 02:05.28 | nsadmin | why are you telling me this? |
| 02:05.31 | grappr | this is a great start for me on debian, though. somehow every other distro defaults to the native resolution for my monitor on install =\ |
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| 02:07.05 | nsadmin | and, why are you telling me this? |
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| 02:08.09 | nsadmin | just so you know... I do not advocate. in my opinion, you should run what you want. your choice, your full responsibility. |
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| 02:11.45 | grappr | they don't make it easy to install the nvidia binary-only drivers |
| 02:11.50 | grappr | ubuntu makes it quite simple |
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| 02:20.24 | grappr | still not working after i install nvidia-glx and rebooted |
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| 02:20.33 | grappr | "Monitor: Unknown" |
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| 02:23.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | where would be a good spot to make a dr i could share between users? /media /mnt ? its goiin to be fore my keypassx password DB. |
| 02:23.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | I think my key is going on a usb fob . |
| 02:23.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | well it will . |
| 02:23.56 | nevyn | Eryn_1983_FL: is it going to be external detachable storage? or online? |
| 02:24.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | well probably on my hd for now locally |
| 02:24.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dont want to store them online |
| 02:24.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | bad idea. |
| 02:24.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | but the key is going on a fob |
| 02:25.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | I suppose I could stick on an encrypted FS |
| 02:25.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | anyways |
| 02:26.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | just want to know if there is a place that is the default for these things like etc is config file or bin is binaries |
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| 02:26.39 | nevyn | Eryn_1983_FL: /srv |
| 02:26.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 02:26.56 | nevyn | is for served application data |
| 02:27.04 | grappr | i'm going to locate the nearest debian developer and stab him repeatedly in the throat |
| 02:27.07 | grappr | that is all |
| 02:27.08 | grappr | fuck all of you |
| 02:27.11 | grappr | debian is shit |
| 02:27.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 02:27.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | what happened grppr |
| 02:27.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | grappr: ? |
| 02:27.54 | grappr | something a simple as getting my monitor to display it's native resolution is a monumental task in debian |
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| 02:28.03 | boudiccas | grappr; whats bitten you off then? |
| 02:28.07 | grappr | something every other linux distro has done perfectly upon install on this same machine |
| 02:28.10 | grappr | so fuck debian |
| 02:28.29 | nevyn | grappr: did you follow the nvidia install guide for debian? |
| 02:28.32 | nevyn | !nvidia |
| 02:28.32 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers . Ask me about <nouveau> (no 3D support in Debian packages), <nvidia dkms> or <nvidia m-a>. For GPUs made before 2004, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx> for legacy drivers. See <nvidia lenny> for oldstable. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 02:28.39 | grappr | yes, i install nvidia-glx |
| 02:28.44 | grappr | the monitor is the problem |
| 02:28.49 | grappr | "Monitor: Unknown" |
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| 02:29.16 | nevyn | grappr: nvidia-glx is only the glx not the driver. |
| 02:29.30 | grappr | i'm just going to uninstall it, i'm all for tinkering, but i can't even tinker with everything stretched out on all this monitor |
| 02:29.36 | grappr | then what's the driver? |
| 02:29.47 | nevyn | !nvidia dkms |
| 02:29.47 | dpkg | For Squeeze users. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. "aptitude -r install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf". Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. For legacy drivers, see <nvidia dkms-173xx> and <nvidia dkms-96xx>. |
| 02:30.52 | nevyn | man that's ugly. but hey that's proprietary drivers for you. |
| 02:30.52 | grappr | tl;dr |
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| 02:31.13 | nevyn | grappr: you are on squeeze right? |
| 02:31.17 | grappr | yes, squeeze |
| 02:31.41 | grappr | nevyn: why do other distros find my proper monitor resolution right away, but debian doesn't? |
| 02:31.51 | Gr33n3gg | getting triple monitors working was a bitch |
| 02:32.03 | grappr | i just want one working monitor! |
| 02:32.20 | ham5 | want some cheese? |
| 02:32.38 | nevyn | grappr: while debian provides a way to install the nvidia driver it's not "part" of the distribution |
| 02:32.48 | nevyn | and neither does ubuntu. |
| 02:32.51 | grappr | i installed nvidia-glx |
| 02:32.56 | grappr | what other packages must i install? |
| 02:33.11 | nevyn | !tell grappr about nvidia dkms |
| 02:33.22 | Gr33n3gg | http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-nvidia-drivers-on-debian-lenny-manually |
| 02:34.23 | nevyn | grappr: he's not using lenny and that mechinism is unsupported in #debian |
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| 02:34.29 | nevyn | bleh Gr33n3gg |
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| 02:36.32 | nevyn | grappr: do you have contrib and non-free enabled? |
| 02:36.45 | boudiccas | nevyn; hes left now |
| 02:36.54 | nevyn | mhe |
| 02:36.56 | guard_ | "cannot initialize debconf template database" ive got this error message, what could be the problem on this one please? |
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| 02:37.06 | grappr | didn't work. i just rebooted. |
| 02:37.11 | boudiccas | and hes rejoined |
| 02:37.26 | nevyn | boudiccas: serves me right for ignoring joins parts etc. |
| 02:37.39 | grappr | i'm done with debian, i won't even try it again on the desktop for another 10+ years |
| 02:37.43 | grappr | debian = server os |
| 02:37.44 | nevyn | ok. |
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| 02:38.08 | grappr | next debian meetup, i'm going to glass a developer in the throat |
| 02:38.15 | grappr | just for wasint a handful of hours worth of my time here |
| 02:38.18 | grappr | wasting* |
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| 02:38.28 | nevyn | grappr: threats against people are really quite unacceptable. |
| 02:38.33 | rocketmagnet | hi all, i've a fresh linux installation with a windows installation on the same driver, i can't find the configuration file of GRUB where i can set the default os to load ? |
| 02:38.37 | nevyn | !ops grappr is making threats of physical harm |
| 02:38.37 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill: nevyn complains about: grappr is making threats of physical harm |
| 02:38.41 | ham5 | !stab grappr |
| 02:38.42 | dpkg | runs at grappr with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 02:39.48 | stew | ok kids... |
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| 02:40.47 | grappr | bye, debian! downloading the linux mint .iso now |
| 02:41.01 | ham5 | who cares gtfo |
| 02:41.26 | grappr | you should care |
| 02:41.30 | nevyn | why? |
| 02:41.39 | grappr | this is why ubuntu is pwning you |
| 02:41.42 | nevyn | that was dumb forget I said it. |
| 02:41.45 | nevyn | lol |
| 02:41.46 | stew | hi, lets please just move on and try to stay civil |
| 02:41.48 | stew | and on-topic |
| 02:41.52 | grappr | because shit that is handled out of the box by ubuntu takes hours in debian |
| 02:41.53 | ham5 | handle it stew |
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| 02:42.00 | nevyn | please. |
| 02:42.04 | Gr33n3gg | uhm |
| 02:42.13 | Gr33n3gg | ubuntu is based on debian... |
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| 02:42.23 | stew | Gr33n3gg: it's off-topic here |
| 02:42.25 | grappr | yes, ubuntu is debian improved |
| 02:42.37 | stew | grappr: do you have any other debian related questions? |
| 02:42.47 | grappr | stew: where do the debian developers meet? |
| 02:42.50 | grappr | so i can attack them |
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| 02:43.02 | nevyn | finaly. |
| 02:43.06 | ham5 | ns |
| 02:43.56 | nevyn | now someone was asking about a problem with debconf.. |
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| 02:48.53 | Delf | Where do I find the doc/manu for isc-dhcp-server ? |
| 02:49.31 | ham5 | google? |
| 02:49.32 | Delf | Also, where is the .leases file? |
| 02:49.35 | nevyn | /usr/share/doc/ |
| 02:49.42 | Delf | I've googled already, I wouldn't be here otherwise. |
| 02:49.45 | nevyn | /var/cache/dhcpd.... |
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| 02:50.04 | ham5 | http://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/documentation |
| 02:50.11 | Delf | I surely don't understand the relevance of the directory names. |
| 02:50.36 | Delf | ham5: I've been there already, thanks. |
| 02:50.41 | ham5 | ;\ |
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| 02:53.03 | rocketmagnet | hi all, i'm new to debian and ask myself how to replace the iceweasle with a normal firefox ? |
| 02:53.40 | stew | rocketmagnet: why would you bother? |
| 02:53.41 | ham5 | you really need the offical branding? |
| 02:53.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | why do you ask yourself that? |
| 02:54.17 | nevyn | Delf: you asked where the docs were.. in /usr/share/doc/dhcp-server/* |
| 02:54.37 | nevyn | Delf: and I was wrong the leases file is in /var/lib/dhcpd3/ |
| 02:55.22 | rocketmagnet | stew: hm ? |
| 02:55.39 | Delf | nevyn: I don't have doc's in there. |
| 02:55.45 | rocketmagnet | stew: another question: what are the adresses for the repositories that are not free ? |
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| 02:56.20 | rocketmagnet | for stuff that was not allowed to be shiped with debian |
| 02:56.30 | jon8 | Running debian 6.0, I have the following variables setup in sysctl.conf http://pastebin.com/JPi0WNrD - I have a Dual Quad Xeon server with 2 network cards bonded together. I'm receiving overruns, datacenter says switch is fine. Can anyone suggest anything? |
| 02:56.33 | stew | rocketmagnet: i don't know why you would go out of your way to replace iceweasel with firefox, since they differ only in name, the artwork, and that debian is offering security support for iceweasel |
| 02:56.45 | rocketmagnet | ah ok |
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| 02:56.53 | rocketmagnet | i just find some thing not in iceweasle |
| 02:57.04 | stew | rocketmagnet: a list of mirrors is here: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 02:57.08 | rocketmagnet | can firebug be used with iceweasle ?? |
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| 02:57.25 | stew | rocketmagnet: there is no functionality removed from firefox to make iceweael |
| 02:57.48 | stew | rocketmagnet: yes, any extension that works with firefox will work with iceweasel |
| 02:57.51 | Delf | nevyn: You were right about the leases. |
| 02:57.55 | stew | judd: info xul-ext-firebug |
| 02:57.57 | judd | Package xul-ext-firebug (web, optional) in squeeze/i386: web development plugin for Iceweasel/Firefox. Version: 1.5.4-1; Size: 942.6k; Installed: 4720k; Homepage: http://getfirebug.com/ |
| 02:58.27 | rocketmagnet | stew: i meant more repositories with not free stuff that can't be shiped with linux because of licensing issues |
| 02:58.31 | nevyn | Delf: man dhcpd.conf |
| 02:58.53 | stew | rocketmagnet: debian has a non-free repository, its on the official mirrors |
| 02:59.04 | stew | rocketmagnet: what specifically are you looking for? |
| 02:59.22 | nevyn | d-m? |
| 02:59.27 | rocketmagnet | i can't remember exactly, but there was a bunch of good software in those repos |
| 02:59.34 | Delf | nevyn: That worked! Thanks :D |
| 03:00.24 | nevyn | Delf: sorry for the runaround... I didn't realise that you were unaware of man |
| 03:01.39 | Delf | nevyn: No sorries! I'm a super newbie :) |
| 03:02.06 | nevyn | Delf: man is usually the first point of call for docs. |
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| 03:02.16 | Delf | Looks like I have some homework to do :) |
| 03:02.21 | Delf | I see.. |
| 03:02.45 | nevyn | Delf: it's more a quickreference than exhaustive documentation |
| 03:02.49 | nevyn | see man man |
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| 03:03.15 | rocketmagnet | stew: i miss for example the pannel where i can place additional links to (i allways had this unter the entry box for the web site |
| 03:03.23 | rocketmagnet | and i can't install any plugins like firebug |
| 03:03.46 | nevyn | rocketmagnet: we just told you how to isntall firebug but the internal plugin mechinism also works. |
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| 03:04.57 | rocketmagnet | nevyn: where do you told me how to install ff ? do i need a non-free repo ???? no or ? |
| 03:05.16 | stew | rocketmagnet: why can't you install firebug? |
| 03:05.48 | stew | rocketmagnet: run "aptitude install xul-ext-firebug" to install firebug, or install it using the built in extensions mechanism |
| 03:05.55 | stew | rocketmagnet: or do you get an error from either of these? |
| 03:06.03 | rocketmagnet | i've downloaded the .xpi file but don't know how to teel iceweasle to install this file |
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| 03:06.23 | rocketmagnet | i would just want to have the tradition firefox |
| 03:06.29 | rocketmagnet | that would be the best for me |
| 03:06.31 | rocketmagnet | in my case |
| 03:06.47 | rocketmagnet | should i download the firefox sources and compile them myself ?? |
| 03:06.55 | stew | if you like... |
| 03:06.57 | rocketmagnet | or can i do it with apt-get ? |
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| 03:07.00 | nevyn | I don't believe there's a supported mechinism to install firefox. |
| 03:07.03 | rocketmagnet | i would prefer apt-get |
| 03:07.13 | stew | rocketmagnet: you already have it installed via apt-get |
| 03:07.14 | nevyn | as iceweasel is the same code with different branding |
| 03:07.43 | stew | rocketmagnet: we are just forbidden by mozilla to call it iceweasel. its the same code |
| 03:07.50 | stew | err, to call it firefox |
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| 03:07.53 | nevyn | stew: you mean firefox ;) |
| 03:07.54 | nevyn | yeah |
| 03:08.00 | rocketmagnet | but where is the plugin menü ? |
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| 03:08.36 | scorphus | hello, NFS client is not synchronizing as fast as I need, how do configure it to sync instantaneously? thanks |
| 03:08.38 | nevyn | rocketmagnet: tools-> addons |
| 03:09.36 | rocketmagnet | there i see a list of plugins, but no way to install my .xpi file with firebug |
| 03:09.42 | jon8 | no one has any answer for me :( |
| 03:09.48 | jon8 | damnit |
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| 03:11.48 | nevyn | rocketmagnet: what happens if you open the xpi file with iceweasel? |
| 03:11.56 | nevyn | file:/// then browse to it. |
| 03:12.25 | nevyn | or file - > open then xpi file |
| 03:12.27 | ham5 | drag my xpis over the url bar and hit enter |
| 03:12.36 | Delf | What are "known" and "unknown" Clients? I don't understand how the server will determine if a client is known or unknown. |
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| 03:12.59 | nevyn | Delf: in dhcp? |
| 03:13.22 | stew | rocketmagnet: go to tools, add-ons, get add-ons, and type "firebug" in the search box. you can also just "apt-get install xul-ext-firebug" |
| 03:13.28 | rocketmagnet | nevyn: i just installed the binary package from the mozilla page to have firefox 4.0.1 =) |
| 03:13.36 | rocketmagnet | thx anyways stew |
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| 03:14.38 | Delf | nevyn: Yes. |
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| 03:15.29 | nevyn | Delf: known clients are clients that dhcpd has a specific configuration for |
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| 03:15.46 | nevyn | Delf: unknown clients are random systems that get plugged into the network. |
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| 03:17.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | is there a way to reattach a disonwned process? |
| 03:17.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | i forgot to start my pvmove in screen. |
| 03:17.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | and now i need to reboot the client i connecting to the server on.. |
| 03:18.03 | nevyn | Eryn_1983_FL: if you disowned it it shouldn't be attached to that controlling pty anymore |
| 03:18.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | i havent yet |
| 03:18.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am asking can i reattach after a disown ? |
| 03:18.34 | Delf | nevyn: How do I specify config for certain clients? |
| 03:18.38 | nevyn | but there's no way to get it back no. |
| 03:18.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | :( |
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| 03:18.50 | nevyn | Delf: keep reading the manpage about host declarations |
| 03:18.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | no other way unless i do screen eh? |
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| 03:22.01 | rocketmagnet | stew: another question i have now for a longer time - what on earth do i have to read to make my external USB harddisks mount allways go to the same path - no matter how i plug them in (so first hd1, then hd3 and finally h2) for example |
| 03:22.23 | rocketmagnet | what was the stuff called i have to read, this makes me headackes |
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| 03:23.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | will this work ctrl-z the program |
| 03:23.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | bg % so it wont die when you logoff |
| 03:23.18 | Eryn_1983_FL | screen retty $Pid |
| 03:23.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | will attach the running program into screen |
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| 03:25.46 | nevyn | hrm. |
| 03:26.07 | nevyn | I wouldn't ctrl-z it |
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| 03:26.33 | Delf | I see. Hardware ethernet <mac address>; |
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| 03:28.37 | stew | rocketmagnet: what is mounting them now? an automounter? which? |
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| 03:36.23 | rocketmagnet | important question for me: when i'm using a dualboot system - is it possible to use the same path for the profiles so i have all my mails on both system no matter where i got it from (linux or windows) |
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| 03:36.55 | ham5 | if the same filesystem is mounted... |
| 03:37.03 | ham5 | sure |
| 03:37.50 | rocketmagnet | ham5: do ouy mean me ? |
| 03:38.11 | aBiNg | hi there, I'm running amd64 debian system on my desktop. I've installed ia32-libs, but android adb debug tools don't work. Need some suggestions, thanks |
| 03:38.17 | rocketmagnet | i have one partition i can access from both - windows and linux |
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| 03:40.43 | aBiNg | I googled this problem, but they just said ia32-libs would make the ia32 bit console application run on amd64 system. |
| 03:41.58 | wols | ran "ldd" on the executable? |
| 03:42.24 | aBiNg | /usr/bin/ldd: line 161: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: cannot execute binary file |
| 03:42.40 | aBiNg | not a dynamic executable |
| 03:43.02 | aBiNg | This is the result of 'ldd /usr/local/share/platform-tools_r05-linux/adb' |
| 03:43.34 | Delf | How do I get isc-dhcp-server to start when the computer starts? Also, how do I set up a restart script? |
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| 03:44.03 | maahes | is there a way to get an installed package list without being able to chroot into a drive? |
| 03:44.36 | wols | maahes: why can't you chroot? |
| 03:45.52 | wols | Delf: there is an init.d script |
| 03:45.55 | aBiNg | wols: forgot to say, I'm running my customized kernel |
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| 03:47.10 | aBiNg | CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION? |
| 03:47.42 | maahes | wols: /bin/ is mostly wiped and a glance at /etc/password shows me missing root/livesessionuser/me |
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| 03:48.10 | maahes | there is /bin/zsh but trying to log in gives me /bin/zsh not found |
| 03:48.20 | wols | ouch. there is a dpkg option named "--admindir" you can set, see manpage |
| 03:49.01 | wols | !tell maahes about clone |
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| 03:49.34 | wols | there should be a similar option (hopefully) for aptitude. if all else fails: link the apt or dpkg directories to your live cd ones |
| 03:49.52 | Delf | wols: I see lots of scripts there. I viewed some files. It seems that $1 = first parameter. |
| 03:50.29 | wols | Delf: as soon as you install the dhcpd it installs a init.d script and makes it run at runlevel 2. noth else needed |
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| 03:52.21 | Delf | wols: What is the name of the file? I don't find anything related to dhcp. |
| 03:52.27 | wols | !tell maahes about aptitude clone |
| 03:52.38 | Delf | Never mind. isc-dhcp-server. |
| 03:55.10 | maahes | wols: thanks, I'm going to be able to do this on another machine pointing to this machine without being able to root into this machine? |
| 03:55.29 | wols | maahes: I told you two possible ways |
| 03:56.10 | maahes | wols: I've done a similar thing to the second one before, but I had to chroot in, so I was just asking for clarification |
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| 03:56.41 | wols | you cannot follow the factoid directly obviously |
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| 03:58.23 | maahes | wols: I hadn't tried it yet, it just sounded very similar to something I had already done "use aptitude search" can mean "be able to log into the reference machine to use the local instance of aptitude search to pull off the files" |
| 03:58.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | sigh |
| 03:58.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | wish there was a way to get my process back |
| 03:59.00 | wols | maahes: have you read what I told you about dpkg? |
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| 04:00.02 | Delf | wols: Thank you. |
| 04:02.02 | maahes | wols: well the first tell sent me nothing (debian clone, not clone) but I looked at debian clone and that with --admindir will do what I want. Thankyou :) |
| 04:03.55 | Eryn_1983_FL | bbl |
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| 04:14.02 | john_rambo | If I get get lots of deps while doing ./configure is there a way to select them all at once ? |
| 04:15.00 | veronicaa | rambo yes but i dont remember how |
| 04:15.01 | wols | you can redirect all stderr errors |
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| 04:15.18 | veronicaa | pretty useless but... yes you can |
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| 04:15.28 | wols | or what is your problem, cause there are not dependencies listed directly via configure |
| 04:16.02 | veronicaa | have you installed C libraries? |
| 04:16.12 | veronicaa | or pastebin your output |
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| 04:17.39 | Delf | Do we have a WINS server? |
| 04:17.48 | john_rambo | wols, veronicaa I am trying to install the latest version of wine & ./configure ends up with lots of deps http://pastebin.com/wGUdNpgx |
| 04:17.57 | john_rambo | the unstable version |
| 04:18.01 | john_rambo | of wine |
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| 04:19.33 | wols | john_rambo: and why didn't you run apt-get build-dep as the ssb factoid tells you? |
| 04:20.52 | john_rambo | wols, I have hardy installed anything this way ...... so I need to run apt-get build-dep when ? before running ./configure ? |
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| 04:21.21 | john_rambo | or after ./configure make & make install ? |
| 04:21.39 | wols | what good would development packages do after a compile? |
| 04:22.05 | wols | !tell john_rambo about ssb |
| 04:22.19 | Delf | What is a simple WINS server? |
| 04:22.33 | john_rambo | wols, I dunno you tell me howto ...I will do it |
| 04:22.51 | wols | !tell Delf about WINS |
| 04:23.10 | wols | Delf: samba comes with its own WINS server if wanted |
| 04:23.28 | wols | john_rambo: are you creating a .deb? |
| 04:23.52 | wols | ,versions wine |
| 04:23.55 | judd | Package wine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-3.1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; wheezy: 1.0.1-3.1; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 04:24.01 | john_rambo | wols, no ....just want to install wine by ./configure make & make install |
| 04:24.24 | wols | john_rambo: very bad idea. /msg dpkg checkinstall |
| 04:24.45 | john_rambo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.02 | zcat[1] | john_rambo: try apt-get build-dep wine |
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| 04:26.06 | wols | john_rambo: no leading space |
| 04:26.07 | john_rambo | zcat[1], "E: Unable to find a source package for wine" |
| 04:26.33 | zcat[1] | enable sources? |
| 04:27.01 | Delf | wols: Ok, how would I know if I have WINS server or not? I do have Samba. |
| 04:27.21 | wols | Delf: by reading samba docs and checking its config file(s) |
| 04:27.36 | wols | john_rambo: apt-cache policy pastebin that |
| 04:27.43 | zcat[1] | john_rambo: I'd just find a near-bleeding-edge PPA |
| 04:28.55 | Nu^253r | hi, how do i tell my hardware, to use a certain kind of driver, where is multiple available?! |
| 04:29.18 | john_rambo | wols, http://pastebin.com/vyYz5gK7 |
| 04:29.20 | wols | Nu^253r: which driver for what? |
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| 04:29.46 | Nu^253r | for my dlink dwa-525 driver wols |
| 04:30.03 | Nu^253r | ive neem having trouble with it under linux |
| 04:30.24 | wols | john_rambo: main is there so "aptitude build-dep wine" should work just fine |
| 04:30.42 | Nu^253r | the ralin-firmare package provided by deb doesnt recognize it |
| 04:30.47 | wols | Nu^253r: this dwa-525 uses which chip exactly? or what is the lspci/lsusb ID for it? |
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| 04:31.16 | Nu^253r | it uses ralin rt3060 wols |
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| 04:31.24 | john_rambo | wols, http://pastebin.com/hsXrQpLY |
| 04:32.01 | wols | Nu^253r: which debian branch and which kernel version? |
| 04:32.20 | wols | john_rambo: apt-cache policy wine |
| 04:32.42 | Nu^253r | squeeze and 2.6.38-2-amd64 |
| 04:32.46 | wols | john_rambo: also add deb-src line for wine |
| 04:33.02 | wols | !tell Nu^253r rt3060 |
| 04:33.07 | wols | ,kernels |
| 04:33.09 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.39-2-686-pae (2.6.39-2); wheezy: 2.6.38-2-686 (2.6.38-5); squeeze-backports: 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 (2.6.38-5~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-34squeeze1); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-31~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
| 04:33.38 | wols | Nu^253r: get the firmware ONLY from wheezy. download it via packages.debian.org and install it |
| 04:33.40 | john_rambo | wols, http://pastebin.com/5ufVmigt |
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| 04:34.31 | wols | john_rambo: add a deb-src line I guess |
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| 04:34.56 | Nu^253r | i have done that wols, with no luck the driver doesnt recognize my hardware, |
| 04:35.25 | wols | Nu^253r: any error messages? dmesg output? |
| 04:35.40 | Nu^253r | i manuely comiled the driver from ralinktech.com, it recognized it and all, but the problem is this, |
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| 04:36.07 | wols | ralink supplied drivers aren't always of the best quality... |
| 04:36.09 | Nu^253r | everytime i try to connect to wireless network it goes into text mode and freezes |
| 04:36.31 | john_rambo | wols, "also add deb-src line for wine" Never done that before ..... This is my current list http://pastebin.com/N1x7ysDm ....Help the kid !! |
| 04:36.51 | wols | I'd try and install a sid kernel alongside the others and hope kernel devs worked on it since 2.6.38 |
| 04:36.53 | Nu^253r | wols this is a screen shot of what happens |
| 04:37.00 | Nu^253r | http://postimage.org/image/1pyuhqu3o/ |
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| 04:37.39 | wols | john_rambo: copy the "deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free" line but use deb-src at the beginning instead of deb |
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| 04:38.25 | ktims | just upgraded to squeeze, have a weird dependency problem. only source is main US apt server, installing gcc-4.4.5-8, but many libs are depending on 4.4.5-10 that i can't find anywhere, like PDO |
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| 04:38.40 | ktims | *trying to upgrade, anyway |
| 04:38.56 | wols | ,versions gcc-4.4.5 |
| 04:38.58 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'gcc-4.4.5' was found in i386. |
| 04:39.03 | wols | ,versions gcc |
| 04:39.05 | judd | Package gcc on i386 -- lenny: 4:4.3.2-2; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.6.0-5; sid: 4:4.6.0-6 |
| 04:39.30 | john_rambo | wols, Done >> http://pastebin.com/Yb0k7BJu ....Now ? |
| 04:40.01 | ktims | oh bah i know what happened, arrg |
| 04:40.26 | wols | john_rambo: you apt-get update and try to install build-dep again |
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| 04:41.01 | wols | john_rambo: it might not install all build dependencies, but should install most |
| 04:41.34 | shalok | What do I need to do to make hibernate work? When I select it in gnome my computer looks as though it might be trying to hibernate (doesn't do shutdown sequence before powering down) but when I power back up it it runs all the init.d scripts and doesn't restore my x session... |
| 04:41.53 | john_rambo | wols, Roger |
| 04:43.18 | wols | shalok: try outside gnome with pm-hibernate first. it might throw out errors |
| 04:43.30 | wols | shalok: how much RAM do you have and how big is your swap? |
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| 04:44.05 | shalok | wols, 1gb/4gb |
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| 04:44.42 | john_rambo | wols, Done ..... Now do I install wine-1.3.22 ? |
| 04:44.44 | shalok | wols, Guess I'll try pm-hibernate, brb |
| 04:44.47 | wols | john_rambo: fyi, people have used the ubuntu wine version with success in debian. not supported but since you want wine 1.3 anyways, it's not supported anywhere |
| 04:44.58 | RocketLauncher | ...I have a Netgear MA521. The divers worked out of the box in debian... when i use it and do something like updating or irc+web browsing, i disconnect.. i can't reconnect to any network even though they're available. What's wrong here? |
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| 04:45.30 | RocketLauncher | I have an Intel 2200BG minipci card that I stuck in here for now. The antenna cables are sticking out.. only two networks are visible. I don't know how to get this thing to view more either. |
| 04:45.36 | john_rambo | wols, Okay then downloading the Ubuntu deb |
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| 04:48.37 | shalok | wols, pm-hibernate behaved the same as hibernating from gnome. |
| 04:50.18 | wols | shalok: well, did it spit out any errors? create any logs? |
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| 04:55.55 | shalok | /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager hibernate hibernate: success. |
| 04:55.55 | shalok | Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/60_wpa_supplicant hibernate hibernate: |
| 04:55.55 | shalok | Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or directory |
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| 04:56.17 | shalok | wols, That's about the only error I see in pm-suspend.log |
| 04:56.33 | shalok | wols, I didn't see a pm-hibernate.log... |
| 04:56.40 | wols | maybe try to hibernate when wlan is powered down (ifconfig wlan0 down) ? |
| 04:57.21 | shalok | actually I'm uninstalling network-manager and wpa_supplicant |
| 04:57.34 | shalok | ok trying again |
| 04:59.02 | wols | does it say anything when powering up again? e.g. IIRC it prints some error when the swap partition isn't as it's supposed to be and then boots normally as you are seeing |
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| 05:05.17 | Delf | is port 25 being used by default? |
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| 05:08.19 | JohnWittle | Delf: probably |
| 05:08.25 | JohnWittle | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers |
| 05:08.37 | JohnWittle | 25 TCP Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP).used for e-mail routing between mail servers |
| 05:08.44 | JohnWittle | Delf: pretty important imo |
| 05:09.07 | Delf | JohnWittle: I know what 25 is used for but I havent installed a SMTP Server. |
| 05:09.27 | wols | Delf: exim4 is normally installed by default. dpkg -l |grep exim |
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| 05:09.39 | Delf | what does exim4 do? |
| 05:10.00 | wols | it delivers mail |
| 05:10.36 | Delf | Can I remove it using aptitude? |
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| 05:12.55 | Delf | I remove it and I'm still unable to bind port 25. It seems still in use :( |
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| 05:13.35 | stew | Delf: what are you trying to put on port 25? |
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| 05:13.59 | nvictor | hey debian |
| 05:14.12 | nvictor | wols: greetings |
| 05:14.15 | Delf1 | stew: A smtp server. |
| 05:14.16 | nvictor | i have an issue |
| 05:14.38 | stew | Delf1: which? are you not using a debian package for this for some reason? |
| 05:15.09 | Delf1 | stew: Nope. I'm using ability server running in wine. |
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| 05:15.49 | nvictor | i am trying to copy some of my vim colors from my old laptop to my debian vm. and i guess they should be in /usr/share/vim/vimfiles (not sure tho). but when i open that folder with the file browser, i dont seem to have any permission to the folder. any idea? |
| 05:15.50 | stew | Delf1: hm. i suppose use netstat to see what is listening on port 25 |
| 05:16.00 | stew | Delf1: wine is running as root? |
| 05:16.05 | stew | Delf1: do you get an error? |
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| 05:18.48 | Delf | stew: Yes, I'm getting an error. Unable to map port. |
| 05:18.51 | Delf | or bind? |
| 05:19.29 | wols | Delf: as stew asked: is anything else listening on port 25? and are you running WINE as root? |
| 05:20.51 | stew | Delf: that's the entire error message? is "or bind" part of the error message? |
| 05:21.50 | Delf | stew: It's unable to open port 25 for smtp connections. |
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| 05:22.26 | Delf | I don't see anything using port 25 in netstat. |
| 05:22.44 | shalok | wols, Apparently I don't even have a wlan |
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| 05:23.19 | shalok | wols, In any event I tried pm-hibernate after stopping network-manager and even uninstalling wpa-supplicant and all the network-manager stuff and neither helped. |
| 05:24.19 | shalok | wols, Besides I don't think the failure is a problem, the next line says: |
| 05:24.21 | shalok | /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/60_wpa_supplicant hibernate hibernate: success. |
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| 05:26.42 | Delf | Thanks for all help! I'm off to bed. |
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| 05:33.48 | nvictor | how do i launch the file browser with root permissions? |
| 05:34.39 | wols | run it with gksudo for example. or sux or kdesu |
| 05:35.01 | nvictor | ok |
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| 05:35.40 | wols | I suggest using mc in a xterm as root tho. easier to see what runs as dangerous root and what doesn't |
| 05:36.43 | ZykoticK9 | Related to gksudo vs gksu - is there any "practical" implications of using one over the other? TBH their man pages look identical/linked. I've heard the backends are different, on using sudo the other su - does it matter which you use? |
| 05:36.47 | nvictor | wols: what is mc? |
| 05:37.00 | wols | nvictor: a filemanager |
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| 05:37.06 | nvictor | wols: how is the file browser invoked from command line? |
| 05:37.15 | nvictor | wols: i don't seem to have it; command not found |
| 05:37.23 | tensorpudding | it's a curses-esque file browser |
| 05:37.23 | wols | !installit |
| 05:37.23 | dpkg | Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 05:38.02 | nvictor | wols: well i just searched |
| 05:38.11 | nvictor | wols: returned a lot for mc |
| 05:38.50 | tensorpudding | it's called midnight commander |
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| 05:39.02 | nvictor | tensorpudding: thanks |
| 05:39.04 | tensorpudding | mc is the command |
| 05:39.32 | tensorpudding | it's a clone of a DOS file manager |
| 05:39.34 | tensorpudding | norton commander |
| 05:39.48 | tensorpudding | huh, miguel de icaza wrote mc? |
| 05:39.51 | streuner_ | Peter Norton |
| 05:40.06 | streuner_ | why not? |
| 05:40.23 | tensorpudding | it doesn't have much in common with his other stuff |
| 05:40.24 | nvictor | oh midnight commander |
| 05:40.30 | nvictor | i remember it |
| 05:40.38 | tensorpudding | gnome, mono |
| 05:40.42 | nvictor | wasn't supposed to be a dos program? |
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| 05:42.10 | tensorpudding | written in like 1994 though |
| 05:42.12 | streuner_ | Norton made a little prgramm in assembler |
| 05:42.16 | tensorpudding | a good few years before gnome |
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| 05:42.37 | streuner_ | btw, the code was open and available :-) |
| 05:42.59 | tensorpudding | that's the same norton that now makes all that nice windows software |
| 05:43.31 | nvictor | tensorpudding: nice would be subjective |
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| 05:44.33 | KitsuneDrag0n | s/nice/horrible |
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| 05:44.37 | tensorpudding | actually, not really |
| 05:44.49 | tensorpudding | norton changed quite a bit when symantec bought it |
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| 05:49.11 | extraclassic | i set up a new hp computer today and it booted up with some wizard that was asking me about Norton and all this HP registration stuff...it was horrible and I felt bad for people who leave the computer like that because they aren't sure what else to do |
| 05:49.15 | nvictor | wols: seems like you are fond of oldskool programs |
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| 05:52.14 | streuner_ | nvictor: The main interface consists of two panels which display the file system. The idea is just great... |
| 05:52.25 | crazy2k | Hi. Was trying to install from a netinstall for PowerPC. I told the installer to make separate partition for /home. Then I told it to encrypt /home and swap. Now, when I want to proceed it tells me "No NewWorld boot partition was found". I'm wondering whether I should add it manually or what. |
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| 05:53.11 | nvictor | streuner_: yes the dualpane concept |
| 05:53.12 | RocketLauncher | I stuck a 2200BG MiniPCI card in here.. the two antenna cables.. i think i have them on right. i have a low range though.. i can only connect to my home network, which works fine. but what if i want to connect to someone else, say if i'm at a hotel? |
| 05:53.23 | RocketLauncher | is this something to do with Debian or the cables itself |
| 05:53.29 | nvictor | streuner_: there are many clones where i come from (windows :) ) |
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| 05:54.11 | tonytraductor | is stew in? |
| 05:54.36 | streuner_ | dpkg, seen stew |
| 05:54.37 | dpkg | stew is currently on #debian-ops #debian. Has said a total of 81 messages. Is idling for 33m 46s, last said: 'Delf: that's the entire error message? is "or bind" part of the error message?'. |
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| 05:54.42 | tonytraductor | I see him listed. |
| 05:54.52 | tonytraductor | Just wondering if he' s really with us, or idle |
| 05:55.21 | tonytraductor | trying to figure out how to UNsplit a column in tritium |
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| 05:58.56 | tonytraductor | must be idle...snoozing...I msg-ed him. |
| 05:59.06 | tonytraductor | tritium is pretty cool. |
| 05:59.06 | nvictor | see you later guys |
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| 05:59.12 | tonytraductor | nitey nite |
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| 06:36.03 | doublehp | how do i make a screenshot that will include the mouse pointer ? |
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| 06:36.42 | kev009__ | debian 6 (squeeze), all patched and up to date. manual bridges defined on br0 and br1. ubuntu 10.04 guest all up to date. damn thing keeps losing internet connectivity after random intervals. |
| 06:36.49 | kev009__ | I saw some reference to disabling TSO on the NICs. did so on both dom0 and domU, no luck. anyone seen similar? |
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| 06:50.14 | babilen | doublehp: /msg dpkg potato |
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| 06:51.01 | doublehp | babilen: he says me to use Woody, and Woody is too large for the box. Woody needs 8M RAM. |
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| 06:51.23 | babilen | "he" ? Don't listen to the voices. |
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| 07:05.39 | Furai` | Hello! |
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| 07:10.13 | RocketLauncher | I am extremely confused at what I just did.. I have a MA521 wifi card. I was having problems where i could see my networks listed but i couldn't connect.. i remember getting drivers and using ndiswrapper.. didnt work.. then I did modprobe -r ndiswrapper and used Linux drivers and it worked.. |
| 07:10.38 | RocketLauncher | and for some reason i think i remember ndiswrapper saying the driver was already installed.. so I dont know if debian included those drivers or what that was messing me up |
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| 07:11.51 | dutchfish | hi, last night i spend a couple of hours in trying to solve the xorg-server multi-arch problem by dist-upgrading a clone form testing to sid in an attempt to use latest mesa wich depends on a newer eglibc (libc6), i ran into bug #630608, if somone expiriencing the same issue (segfaulting in almost any bin) please do ping me. |
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| 07:15.43 | dutchfish | to my humble opinion the migration of eglibc to testing should be stopped, ie bug should be updated to critical |
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| 07:16.23 | RocketLauncher | Oh my god what's with this card.. it works fine and it's not disconnecting anymore.. but when i just loaded a youtube video, my connection to another irc server became very slow and i had to reconnect |
| 07:16.41 | RocketLauncher | It's like it set YouTube as it's highest priority |
| 07:16.50 | Andorin | I installed xfce4 on Squeeze and if I move the mouse or press a key after being idle for just a few minutes, my wireless connection drops and then reconnects. It never did this in Gnome. |
| 07:18.03 | Andorin | Looks like my wireless card's power management is turned off, according to iwconfig. |
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| 07:29.01 | Andorin | I looked at /var/log/messages/ after a bit of Googling, but it just says this over and over |
| 07:29.14 | Andorin | "wlan0: link is not ready" "wlan0: link becomes ready" |
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| 07:31.46 | Andorin | dmesg basically says the same thing |
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| 07:38.35 | crodjer | Does the pam time configuration needs a restart to take effect? |
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| 07:47.28 | KerrMD | Morning all |
| 07:48.20 | KerrMD | Question: How does one find out which version of grub is being used on ones system. 2) How would one remove a windows 7 entry from their grub menu? |
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| 07:52.56 | Dreaman | KerrMD stable or sid |
| 07:54.28 | Andorin | Dreaman: He quit |
| 07:54.51 | Dreaman | :) |
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| 08:02.30 | koskoz | hi |
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| 08:03.26 | koskoz | my mails using sendmail are not send. I'm wondering if I need to configure something. I've got sendmail in /usr/sbin but it redirects to exim4 |
| 08:03.30 | sakal | hi, how can I output multistrings in dash script? for example information for --help option? |
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| 08:18.44 | Chilaquiles | I don't know hwat happened but my GRUB got screwed when I installed debian. I had Win7 and ubuntu installed on my computer. And now I thought I fixed the grub with ubuntu live cd but I'm not able to load debian, only ubuntu and windows |
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| 08:19.01 | Chilaquiles | When I try to start debian it says device not found.. |
| 08:19.10 | Chilaquiles | somebody that can help me? |
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| 08:20.07 | cahoot | Chilaquiles, start ubuntu - run update-grub - see if debian turns up |
| 08:20.27 | Chilaquiles | live cd o normal? |
| 08:20.36 | cahoot | normal |
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| 08:21.02 | cahoot | (make sure os-prober is installed on ubu) |
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| 08:33.16 | iker | Hola |
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| 08:34.05 | guard_ | do i need internet connection DURING the installation of "netinst" iso image? |
| 08:35.06 | jelly-home | guard_: it's strongly suggested if you want the installer to fetch latest updates and any packages in addition to the base system |
| 08:35.44 | jelly-home | guard_: if you don't have it, you end up with a working base debian installation |
| 08:36.17 | Chilaquiles | damn it, it seems like I fixed the grub, and then I can start ubuntu and windows 7, but when I start debian, it seems like it erases the grub that Im not able to log in again |
| 08:37.04 | guard_ | but how come i got an error installing it?(no internet) |
| 08:37.48 | jelly-home | you will need to provide more details |
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| 08:38.11 | Dreaman | my grub work and boot win7 debian sid |
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| 08:38.12 | Chilaquiles | anybody that can hep me? |
| 08:38.13 | Dreaman | :) |
| 08:38.58 | jelly-home | guard_: which part of the installation (what's the last thing you did), and what exact error? Can you take an digital image of the screen and upload it somewhere |
| 08:39.03 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 08:39.04 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 08:39.14 | jelly-home | guard_: eg. that http://picpaste.com/ site |
| 08:39.50 | jelly-home | also: asking the same question in multiple channels -- frowned upon |
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| 08:40.02 | guard_ | failed while handling 'devices/platform/i8042/seri0/input/input0 |
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| 08:40.24 | guard_ | and some errors are 'kernel panic- not syncing' |
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| 08:42.42 | Dreaman | os[Linux 2.6.39-2-amd64 x86_64] distro[Debian wheezy/sid] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 1.35GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 84.2% free] disk[Total: 924.7GB, 91.4% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI] |
| 08:42.44 | Dreaman | :) |
| 08:43.24 | mysticsilent | Hi, i have a question. How can i change the base screen with the taskbar to the left screen when using dual screen setup? |
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| 08:44.57 | gionnico | Hello! |
| 08:45.53 | gionnico | 'ive removed gnome and gnome-core wiht synaptics but it didnt remove all the consequent packages |
| 08:45.55 | gionnico | how do i do that? |
| 08:46.09 | gionnico | !gnome |
| 08:46.09 | dpkg | GNOME is a Desktop Environment ("DE", so are <KDE> and <XFCE>) based on GTK+. To get or delete GNOME, ask me about <install gnome> or <remove gnome> respectively. See also <gnome status>. http:/wiki.debian.org/Gnome http://www.gnome.org/ #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org. GNOME-related IRC channels: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels |
| 08:47.20 | gionnico | aptitude install gnome-session gnome- ?? |
| 08:47.29 | jmarsden | !tell gionnico about remove gnome |
| 08:48.05 | gionnico | no i want to keep gnome.session |
| 08:48.11 | gionnico | just remove the too much packages |
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| 08:48.37 | jmarsden | gionnico: Then you need to decide for yourself what the "too much packages" are, and then remove or purge them. |
| 08:48.58 | gionnico | jmarsden: i dont want what isnt in gnome-session |
| 08:49.26 | gionnico | i've removed gnome and gnome-core with synaptics unluckily synaptics didn't remove what they had pulled in |
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| 08:49.49 | jmarsden | Those are meta packages, it is not supposed to. |
| 08:50.12 | gionnico | i know aptitude could do that (remove deps when you remove a metapackage) |
| 08:50.43 | jmarsden | Might be easier to follow the instructions to remove all of GNOME that dpkg told you earlier, and then install gnome-session -- is that workable for you? |
| 08:51.13 | gionnico | not really i've already started configuring stuff .. |
| 08:51.32 | jmarsden | Then I don't know what to suggest, sorry. |
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| 08:51.53 | gionnico | man aptitude |
| 08:53.04 | gionnico | sudo aptitude remove gnome-core works great even if gnome-core is already uninstalled :) |
| 08:53.59 | gionnico | ah no.. sudo aptitude remove gnome .. 0 packages |
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| 08:56.31 | oznt | hi everyone, it seems that #pidgin is still sleeping ... i would like to enable voip with pidgin on debian, does someone know how to do it? |
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| 09:04.16 | gionnico | looks like aptitude does remember which packages a metapackage pulled in |
| 09:04.36 | bs0d | Good day everybody. Why MAKEDEV all does not work? |
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| 09:08.11 | bs0d | what is the proper way to recreate a devices in /dev in Debian? |
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| 09:10.18 | cahoot | restart udev? |
| 09:11.04 | gionnico | how can i know what keeps a package installed? if manual selection or a dep (by what) ? |
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| 09:13.05 | Chilaquiles | what's the equivalent of ubuntu software center in debian? |
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| 09:14.44 | bs0d | cahoot: if I restart udev, then it will reacreate the devices? |
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| 09:20.31 | neglesaks | Good morning. I have a Lenovo SL500 laptop, the wireless unit in it doest work in Debian 6.0, I get a 'device not ready' line in the network menu. Does this indicate that teh hardware isnt supported, or is it a bug? |
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| 09:22.30 | gnarface | neglesaks: do you happen to know if you installed with and/or have the contrib and non-free branches? |
| 09:24.58 | gnarface | neglesaks: also have you used lspci to find out which wireless hardware it is? |
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| 09:25.34 | neglesaks | not that i recall, gnarface, thanmks for the sugegstions, ill do that and let you knwo wha ti find out here |
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| 09:25.48 | neglesaks | and pardon the horrenduous typing |
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| 09:26.34 | gnarface | its fine, neglesaks |
| 09:26.47 | Chilaquiles | is it possible to install ubuntu in one drive and another os in another drive? |
| 09:27.06 | Chilaquiles | is it possible to install ubuntu in one drive and another os in another drive, and be able to log in in any of them? |
| 09:27.18 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: will you shut the fuck up about ubuntu please? |
| 09:27.55 | Chilaquiles | would you get the fuck out of here if you are not gonna help you retard |
| 09:27.56 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: the answer to your question is yes |
| 09:28.11 | gnarface | Chilaquiles: but we don't support ubuntu here |
| 09:28.28 | Chilaquiles | so? Im asking about debian moron |
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| 09:28.35 | Chilaquiles | debian and ubuntu |
| 09:28.51 | gnarface | well there are a number of ways to do it |
| 09:28.56 | Chilaquiles | if I go to #ubuntu and I ask this question they are gonna say the same thing |
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| 09:29.14 | gnarface | if you use a *debian* base install |
| 09:29.26 | gnarface | you can load it with the xen, kvm |
| 09:29.33 | gnarface | or even vservers kernels |
| 09:29.57 | gnarface | and within them load a few guest virtual servers and be able to start/stop them at will and log in and out of them too |
| 09:30.21 | Chilaquiles | Im so tired that my debian installation doesn't work |
| 09:30.27 | gnarface | if you don't ever want to run both operating systems at the same time and are happy with rebooting however, you can just partition up your drive |
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| 09:30.41 | nvictor | hey debian |
| 09:30.41 | gnarface | and then configure a boot loader appropriately |
| 09:30.51 | nvictor | i have a src folder with a Makefile |
| 09:31.01 | nvictor | how do i proceed to install? |
| 09:31.05 | nvictor | or build? |
| 09:31.14 | gnarface | nvictor: do you have a README file? |
| 09:31.20 | gnarface | nvictor: or an INSTALL file? |
| 09:31.33 | nvictor | ah yes |
| 09:31.42 | nvictor | there is a readme with the instructions |
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| 09:31.43 | nvictor | thanks |
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| 09:31.58 | gnarface | was that guy for real? |
| 09:32.09 | babilen | nvictor: I would strongly advise to install it to /usr/local by setting the destination accordingly. Use stow to make that easier -- /msg dpkg stow -- /msg dpkg stow usage -- or checkinstall -- /msg dpkg checkinstall |
| 09:32.13 | babilen | gah! |
| 09:32.18 | gnarface | gone, man |
| 09:32.27 | babilen | I know, slow typing is slow |
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| 09:38.49 | qzio | if I want to use debootstrap, but want to be able to do this offline, I can download what? I see there is a file:/// option in the man file, but not what kind of file/files i need. |
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| 09:39.30 | karthick87 | How to set password to my samba share? |
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| 09:40.01 | qzio | karthick87: smbpasswd <username> |
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| 09:42.05 | valdyn | qzio: file:// works like http:// in that you pass the repository location |
| 09:43.21 | karthick87 | qzio: I have already tried that but still users can access my samba share without password,.. |
| 09:43.26 | qzio | valdyn: yeah, so I need to mirror the WHOLE debian repository just for my minimal setup? is there some easy way to do this? |
| 09:44.05 | valdyn | qzio: everything you need for debootstrap is probably on the first cdrom |
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| 09:44.22 | qzio | karthick87: oh, there should be something about that in /etc/smb.conf no? Sorry, It don't remember exactly, but you need to turn of anon access. |
| 09:44.37 | qzio | valdyn: yeah, so I only need to .iso and mount that filesystem into a directory? |
| 09:44.44 | valdyn | qzio: exactly |
| 09:44.55 | qzio | valdyn: ok, great, I'll try that out. thanks! |
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| 09:45.56 | Chilaquiles | does debian writes a new grub every time it starts? |
| 09:46.05 | valdyn | Chilaquiles: "it" ? |
| 09:46.16 | wols | no. and you need to define what "writes a new grub" means for you |
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| 09:46.54 | Chilaquiles | that means that eveyr time I start debian my grub changes |
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| 09:47.04 | onebitxajax | ook |
| 09:47.06 | Chilaquiles | so I was wondering hat |
| 09:47.06 | onebitxajax | tutto apposto |
| 09:47.09 | valdyn | Chilaquiles: it does not |
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| 09:47.26 | valdyn | Chilaquiles: why do you think this could be the case? |
| 09:47.28 | wols | so you mean the menu grub display changes? how does it change? |
| 09:47.29 | karthick87 | qzio: This is my samba configuration pls have a look @ it http://paste.ubuntu.com/628726/ |
| 09:47.46 | Chilaquiles | because it does change |
| 09:48.04 | valdyn | Chilaquiles: if you say so |
| 09:48.05 | wols | change HOW? |
| 09:48.11 | Chilaquiles | I have to update the grub every time I try to log in to debian |
| 09:48.18 | Chilaquiles | because it gets messed up |
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| 09:48.31 | Chilaquiles | and I have to update it in ubuntu |
| 09:48.33 | wols | the menu can change everytime you run update-grub. if you install a new kernel, update-grub is run automatically. otherwise not |
| 09:48.49 | Chilaquiles | because otherwise Im not able to start debian |
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| 09:49.09 | wols | if you use the grub provided by ubuntu, I suggest you uninstall grub in debian since you don't need it |
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| 09:49.34 | valdyn | umm |
| 09:49.42 | valdyn | kinda makes sense to use both |
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| 09:50.12 | Chilaquiles | well it seems like it installs a new kernel when I try to restart the computer |
| 09:50.19 | wols | valdyn: not if they overwrite each other. the only way they can do this if they both are installed to the MBR |
| 09:50.21 | qzio | karthick87: what happens if you add guest ok = no ? |
| 09:50.34 | Chilaquiles | it says something like .... installing a new kernel |
| 09:50.37 | wols | karthick87: we do not support ubuntu. please use #ubuntu |
| 09:50.46 | Chilaquiles | when I click on restart |
| 09:51.00 | valdyn | Chilaquiles: youre confused |
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| 09:51.00 | wols | Chilaquiles: WHEN does it say that exactly. by default you have to manually start installs |
| 09:51.29 | Chilaquiles | it says on the list of things that appear when you select restart |
| 09:51.48 | wols | Chilaquiles: uname -a |
| 09:51.49 | Chilaquiles | like killing daemon bla bla.... |
| 09:52.10 | Chilaquiles | and it doesn't even restart the computer |
| 09:52.28 | Chilaquiles | when I click on restart it just closes the session and restart the session |
| 09:52.31 | Chilaquiles | but not the computer |
| 09:52.42 | valdyn | Chilaquiles: thats a feature, if its really kexec |
| 09:52.48 | wols | Chilaquiles: what does uname -a say? |
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| 09:53.08 | Chilaquiles | idk |
| 09:53.11 | Chilaquiles | Im tired of this |
| 09:53.17 | Chilaquiles | I will get back on this tomorrow |
| 09:53.23 | Chilaquiles | thanks though |
| 09:53.24 | valdyn | !bye |
| 09:53.24 | dpkg | Cya, valdyn |
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| 10:24.54 | UT2K3 | hello guys? i have this message "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory" and dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't solve this. How can i fix this? This shows up since the upgrade from lenny to squeeze |
| 10:27.21 | wols | UT2K3: env |grep LC_CTYP |
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| 10:31.51 | UT2K3 | wols: LC_CTYPE=UTF-8 |
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| 10:34.34 | wols | UT2K3: locale -a |grep UTF-8 |
| 10:34.57 | UT2K3 | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
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| 10:36.07 | The_ManU_212 | hi |
| 10:36.19 | Delf | likes wols more and more |
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| 10:36.41 | The_ManU_212 | i installed recent debian 6.0.1, why are there no teamspeak-server packages available, its only available for oldstable lenny? |
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| 10:38.25 | UT2K3 | wols: do you how I could solve this? |
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| 10:39.18 | wols | UT2K3: you set a locale which actuallx exists on your system. simply "UTF-8" does not |
| 10:39.39 | wols | ,versions teamspeak |
| 10:39.41 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'teamspeak' was found in i386. |
| 10:39.44 | wols | ,versions teamspeak-server |
| 10:39.45 | judd | Package teamspeak-server on i386 -- lenny/non-free: 2.0.24.1+debian-1; sid/non-free: 2.0.24.1+debian-1.1; wheezy/non-free: 2.0.24.1+debian-1.1 |
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| 10:40.05 | wols | The_ManU_212: it's non-free. install it from lenny then |
| 10:40.28 | UT2K3 | wols: yes, but I don't understand where the locale is set. That's the problem. It's not in my bashrc.. or environment or default/locale |
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| 10:42.02 | wols | !tell UT2K3 about locales |
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| 10:46.06 | UT2K3 | wols: i've already selected "en_US.UTF-8" and than "en_US.UTF-8" as the default locale. But it still tell me LC_CTYPE=UTF-8 |
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| 10:47.03 | wols | then I suggest you start a big grep for LC_CTYPE and UTF-8 |
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| 10:49.05 | The_ManU_212 | wols: i have to add, that i used some years ago ubuntu and now i want to use debian as server. So my maybe my questions sound a bit noobish: has squeeze not also a non-free port? |
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| 10:49.37 | The_ManU_212 | wols: is the lenny package compatible with squeeze and how to install it, that aptitude can manage it? |
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| 10:49.56 | wols | The_ManU_212: there is no "port". there simply is a non-free repository. /msg dpkg non-free |
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| 10:53.41 | Delf | Ok, I've read the manual thousand times where it says Client classing and subclasses. I don't really understand how it works. |
| 10:54.51 | wols | Delf: why do you need a dhcpd again? |
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| 10:55.50 | Delf | wols: Because I don't want to configure every computer on the lan. I've managed to get isc-dhcp-server to run and distinguish "known" and "unknown" clients and apply different settings for them. |
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| 10:56.19 | Delf | Not all of the syntax is explained. |
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| 10:58.42 | Delf | The leases file keeps getting bigger and bigger and I see duplicates too. Is it a sort of history/log file as well? |
| 10:59.21 | The_ManU_212 | wols: and why do i get results for lenny (http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=teamspeak-server) but not for squeeze? google has indexed the package for squeeze, but it has been removed http://www.google.de/search?sclient=psy&hl=de&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&source=hp&q=debian+squeeze+teamspeak-server&btnG=Suche |
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| 10:59.57 | wols | cause for some reason or other no one wanted to create the package for squeeze. orphaned, rc bug, etc |
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| 11:01.21 | wols | The_ManU_212: http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/teamspeak-server.html |
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| 11:01.58 | npoektop | hi! if using netinstall and selecting to set up graphical environment, which of them it will install? Gnome, Xfce, LXDE? It's downloading something right now, but it didn't ask me what to install. |
| 11:02.42 | wols | unless the ISO filename mentions it explicitly, it will install gnome if you install a desktop |
| 11:02.46 | Delf1 | The_ManU_212: I would prefer mumble. Low latency and opensource :) |
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| 11:02.58 | The_ManU_212 | wols: thx, so its problematic to use it? |
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| 11:03.10 | wols | The_ManU_212: it's non-free :) |
| 11:03.44 | Delf | I need to set up failover as well. |
| 11:04.08 | npoektop | wols: thanks. I don't want gnome. |
| 11:04.14 | Delf | Is there a more detailed description/manual/documentation of the isc-dhcp-server config syntax? |
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| 11:04.48 | The_ManU_212 | Delf and wols in my opinion, the biggest problem with non-free software is, that many use it (mp3 vs ogg) |
| 11:04.54 | wols | npoektop: just don't select it in tasksel and you are fine |
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| 11:05.32 | The_ManU_212 | wols: since i'm new to debian, what would be the best way to get a teamspeak server installed that works, or isnt it possible atm with squeeze without a lot of work |
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| 11:05.38 | Delf | The_ManU_212: The change has to start somewhere. |
| 11:05.57 | wols | The_ManU_212: I told you what to do above |
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| 11:07.23 | Iridos | hm, I just came upon that bug from 2006: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=404270 |
| 11:07.37 | The_ManU_212 | wols: http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/teamspeak-server.html i thought this are only hints and news? |
| 11:08.15 | Iridos | weird thing... someone throws in an unrelated problem (perceived by him, but non-existent) ... and then the bug is closed because the problem doesn't exist |
| 11:08.23 | Iridos | but the original complaint is valid? |
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| 11:08.53 | Iridos | and from that debian is violating gnuplots license since before 2006? |
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| 11:09.27 | wols | The_ManU_212: yes it is, but I told you long before what to do. you just ignored it |
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| 11:11.24 | Iridos | or not? |
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| 11:11.49 | Romney12_ | Like individual mandate Obamacare, an agressive foreign policy, and the rest of Barack Obama's policies? Are you nervous around Black people but still like Obama's policies? Then vote for Mitt Romney, the White Barack Obama! |
| 11:12.16 | wols | !ops please remove the imbecile named "romney12_" |
| 11:12.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill: wols complains about: please remove the imbecile named "romney12_" |
| 11:12.43 | Romney12 | It is so true! |
| 11:12.54 | Romney12 | Romney signed into law the same exact thing as Obamacare! |
| 11:12.58 | Romney12 | He supports abortion. |
| 11:13.03 | Romney12 | He supports gay marriage. |
| 11:13.19 | Romney12 | He is for undeclared wars all over the place. |
| 11:13.29 | Romney12 | If you love Obama's policies but can't stand niggers, vote for Romney in 2012! |
| 11:13.34 | Romney12 | Thank you! |
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| 11:14.30 | Iridos | sometimes I feel this channel needs more ops... like now |
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| 11:15.09 | Iridos | anyway |
| 11:15.36 | Iridos | do you see that differently, or should I reopen the bug |
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| 11:18.38 | chopper | /* Ignore this message. I'm new to irc and just wanted to see if connected. */ |
| 11:19.32 | Iridos | you might try messaging a bot next time... e.g. /msg dpkg test |
| 11:19.35 | wols | chopper: next time use a different channel for such things. an empty one |
| 11:19.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | Iridos: ikonia: might need to update his kill script :) |
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| 11:22.46 | Minkben | I have curl installed, but ./configure says I need libcurl >= 7.x.x |
| 11:22.52 | Minkben | curl is newest version |
| 11:22.58 | Iridos | install the -dev package |
| 11:23.00 | Minkben | which package do I need? |
| 11:23.05 | Minkben | libcurl-dev? |
| 11:23.12 | ujjain | Hi... removing via rm -rf takes 20min... any way to speed this up? this is a backupserver, backupartition. |
| 11:23.16 | jelly-home | Minkben: that's a good guess |
| 11:23.34 | Iridos | hm, I don't see one, though |
| 11:23.41 | Minkben | oh it was disguised as "libcurl4-<x>-dev |
| 11:23.46 | Iridos | libcurl4-gnutls-dev |
| 11:23.54 | jelly-home | ujjain: if you are removing all the files on a partition, you can mkfs instead |
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| 11:23.58 | Iridos | libcurl4-openssl-dev |
| 11:24.00 | Minkben | which one is de bestest one? gnutls or openssl |
| 11:24.11 | jelly-home | Minkben: doesn't matter |
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| 11:24.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | depends if you plan to distribute and what the code licence gives you ... |
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| 11:24.51 | jelly-home | a dude that has problems with ./configure isn't a prime candidate for redistrbution |
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| 11:25.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | jelly-home: fair point |
| 11:25.35 | wols | jelly-home: you underestimate the ambition of many people :) |
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| 11:25.54 | ujjain | jelly-home: I did mkfs.ext3 |
| 11:26.01 | ujjain | jelly-home: ohh lol, no, only hourly.0 |
| 11:26.15 | ujjain | jelly-home: I use lots and lots of hardlinked copies of files |
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| 11:27.05 | Guest65662 | hi! i made a second debian-installation (for testing purposes) in /dev/vg1/lvtest (ext4) and can't boot into it. i have a initramfs shell, but am pretty lost. "vgchange -a y" works, i then "modprobe ext4" and "mount /dev/vg1/lvtest /" but when i type "exit", it tells me that /dev/dm-3 does not exist and i get the shell again. |
| 11:27.22 | Guest65662 | i can chroot into the installation, but no idea what to fix |
| 11:27.45 | jelly-home | ujjain: oh. that's normal then, ext3 has rather low file deletion performance |
| 11:28.37 | datenritt | any ideas how i could get my secondary installation to boot? |
| 11:29.46 | ujjain | jelly-home: right, I'll switch |
| 11:30.09 | jelly-home | ujjain: switch to what? |
| 11:30.11 | datenritt | as far as i understood, the initramfs should acitvate the lv, so root can be mounted... but what's the fuzz about /dev/dm-3 ? |
| 11:30.15 | Delf | I have read every single "documentation" @ http://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/documentation |
| 11:30.27 | valdyn | datenritt: dm-3 is just another name for one of your lvm vulumes |
| 11:30.46 | jelly-home | ujjain: do you really want to use a fresh filesystem type for your backups? |
| 11:30.57 | valdyn | datenritt: ls -l /dev/mapper | grep dm-3 |
| 11:31.29 | ujjain | felipe: Yes. I am considering xfs, ext4 or btrfs. |
| 11:31.30 | Delf | I need to understand how the classing and sub classing works. Also, the Pool and Group. I've read the man dhcpd.conf already. I understand partly only. |
| 11:31.33 | ujjain | jelly-home* I meant |
| 11:31.34 | datenritt | valdyn: no result |
| 11:32.02 | datenritt | valdyn: lvtest is /dev/dm-2 |
| 11:32.09 | valdyn | datenritt: ok |
| 11:32.24 | valdyn | datenritt: your chroots mtab might contain filesystems that are not really mounted |
| 11:32.29 | jelly-home | datenritt: Debian lvm support in initramfs REALLY wants you to use root=/dev/mapper/vg1-lvtest device instead of /dev/vg1/lvtest |
| 11:32.40 | valdyn | datenritt: in a chroot mtab cannot be maintaned properly |
| 11:32.49 | valdyn | datenritt: thats not a problem really |
| 11:33.25 | jelly-home | datenritt: the scripts explicitely look for /dev/mapper/*-* to decide if the root= parameter value is a LV |
| 11:33.25 | datenritt | jelly-home: which means...? |
| 11:33.35 | datenritt | valdyn: i could fix it manually, no? |
| 11:33.39 | jelly-home | datenritt: use that instead of /dev/vganme/lvname |
| 11:33.47 | valdyn | datenritt: it needs no fixing |
| 11:34.48 | valdyn | jelly-home: any of those paths should work iirc |
| 11:35.01 | datenritt | jelly-home: the boot-params have been written by grub2, so they are correct, i guess. when i use the path with "mapper" in it with mount (-oremount), it doesn't help. |
| 11:35.26 | jelly-home | valdyn: they don't. TIAS |
| 11:35.27 | valdyn | datenritt: i dont know where your failure is because your description is so vauge |
| 11:35.32 | valdyn | jelly-home: ok |
| 11:35.33 | datenritt | valdyn: i though, fixing mtab, then running update-initramfs in the chroot could help? |
| 11:35.46 | valdyn | datenritt: have you solved seperating booting old system and chroot ? |
| 11:35.58 | jelly-home | datenritt: pastebin your grub.cfg |
| 11:36.46 | datenritt | valdyn: what do you mean by seperating? i can boot into my normal system, mount lvtest and chroot into it. or i can try to boot the system in lvtest. grub loads the kernel and the initrdimg finde, then the root fs is not found. |
| 11:36.53 | datenritt | jelly-home: i can't sorry. |
| 11:37.01 | ujjain | jelly-home: do you consider xfs, ext4, btrfs, one of them inappropriate for backups? |
| 11:37.11 | valdyn | ujjain: not btrfs |
| 11:37.21 | valdyn | ujjain: the other 2 are ok |
| 11:37.29 | ujjain | right. thanks. |
| 11:37.32 | jelly-home | ujjain: ext4 and btrfs definitely not appropriate. I have no experience with xfs. |
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| 11:37.44 | ujjain | ext4 as in unstable? |
| 11:37.47 | datenritt | i could make it easy and just install the sec. system on an external disk. but i really want to figure out what's going wrong here. ;) |
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| 11:37.54 | ujjain | I just feel that 30 minutes for dleeting hardcopied files makes no sense |
| 11:37.58 | jelly-home | not stable enough for me to trust it |
| 11:37.58 | wols | ujjain: why do you need the newest and most spiffy and shiny filesystems for a backup? |
| 11:38.20 | ujjain | because it needs 30 minutes, for deleting backup trees, no data is even deleted. |
| 11:38.26 | ujjain | since they're all hardcopies. |
| 11:38.29 | datenritt | ujjain: use xfs. |
| 11:38.32 | valdyn | ujjain: you mean hardlinks? |
| 11:38.34 | jelly-home | ujjain: run that in a script at 01:00, make the machine worry |
| 11:38.40 | ujjain | valdyn: Yes. |
| 11:38.54 | ujjain | datenritt: I will check out xfs. |
| 11:38.56 | valdyn | ujjain: ok, btrfs is totally out of the equation then, you cannot do hardlink backups with btrfs |
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| 11:39.12 | ujjain | are you sure? I swear I remember somebody in #rsync using it |
| 11:39.14 | jelly-home | btrfs is too new even if it had the features |
| 11:39.32 | valdyn | ujjain: it has a limit on the total path length of hardlinks |
| 11:39.43 | ujjain | ah ok. |
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| 11:39.49 | datenritt | ujjain: but be careful. xfs is considered to be really great, especially when handling many files and links. but when it get's damaged, you need a lot of ram to fix it. |
| 11:39.57 | valdyn | ujjain: same say that makes around 250 hardlinks to the same file |
| 11:40.11 | valdyn | ujjain: you can easily hit that limit with tools like backuppc |
| 11:40.24 | ujjain | exactly. |
| 11:40.38 | ujjain | I am planning on replacing rsnapshot by backuppc., |
| 11:41.01 | The_ManU_212 | wols: you meant i should install from lenny, i hope this wont break the system |
| 11:41.07 | valdyn | ujjain: im using this on 2 installations for a few years |
| 11:41.09 | ujjain | and configuring a new server, so was thinking, 2x1TB raid1, probably will check out ZFS on the itnernet |
| 11:41.33 | ujjain | valdyn: correcting errors in XFS is slow with 4GB ram? |
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| 11:42.24 | valdyn | ujjain: i dont use xfs, xfs uses *huge* amounts of ram to fsck a fs with many files |
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| 11:42.40 | ujjain | valdyn: What do you use? ext3? |
| 11:42.58 | valdyn | ujjain: on the other hand, xfs does pretty good error correction without fsck at mount time |
| 11:43.04 | ujjain | What is even huge? I am active in #Vmware, they consider 32gb as below-average. |
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| 11:43.13 | valdyn | ujjain: ext3 and ext4, I cant say theres a difference |
| 11:43.19 | valdyn | ujjain: the speed is irrelevant |
| 11:43.39 | ujjain | valdyn: It seems rm -rf seems to use much resources, without it needing to. |
| 11:43.45 | valdyn | ujjain: on a 32-bit system anything > 2gb is to huge |
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| 11:45.03 | datenritt | jelly-home: duh, there's actually an error in my grub.cnf. fail. |
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| 11:45.58 | datenritt | booting! whoo! |
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| 11:46.38 | bigmahat2a | I can't visit a URL from my PC, while other PCs on the same |
| 11:46.38 | bigmahat2a | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.38 | bigmahat2a | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.46 | datenritt | now, how do i tell grub2 to NOT write /dev/dm-3 into the list (which is the path to the secondary installation's root as seen from the primary system) ? |
| 11:47.07 | datenritt | i guess, the most simple way is to add a manual entry |
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| 11:48.07 | chrismay | hi, are there known problems with defoma, ttf-bitstream-vesa and sequeeze? Xfontsel does not show them. |
| 11:48.45 | chrismay | the defoma hint file wasn't created at all as far as I can see |
| 11:48.52 | valdyn | chrismay: im not sure xfontsel is relevant for anything but legacy apps |
| 11:51.01 | chrismay | valdyn: more specifically, things like "XTerm*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15" and "Emacs*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15" do not work. |
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| 11:51.19 | bigmahat2a | anyone? |
| 11:51.47 | valdyn | chrismay: xterm can use ttf directly iirc |
| 11:51.51 | datenritt | bigmahat2a: default-gateway |
| 11:52.08 | datenritt | bigmahat2a: check "route -n" or "ip route" |
| 11:52.14 | bigmahat2a | datenritt: everything is automatic, dns and dhcp |
| 11:52.20 | datenritt | bigmahat2a: compare the results... oh |
| 11:52.37 | datenritt | bigmahat2a: can the other boxes ping the one with connection problems? |
| 11:53.51 | valdyn | chrismay: i have no idea about your specific problem, but try http://manac.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/xterm-default-fonts-truetype/ |
| 11:54.10 | homie | did you already xrdb ? |
| 11:54.32 | homie | or restart your wm |
| 11:54.48 | homie | or are those fonts just not existent maybe ? |
| 11:54.51 | datenritt | bigmahat2a: also, do you have a router with firewall in your network? does it treat all PCs the same way? |
| 11:55.15 | wols | bigmahat2a: we don't support ubuntu here. please ask in #ubuntu |
| 11:55.47 | datenritt | ^^ |
| 11:56.44 | chrismay | homie: what exactly do you mean with none existent? They are certainly installed, wajig status ttf-bitstream-vera: ttf-bitstream-vera 1.10-8 1.10-8 1.10-8 install |
| 11:57.15 | topyli | i'm trying to choose a debian live image, but i'm confused by the download options. i want to create a rescue usb stick. which image do i want? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/ |
| 11:57.21 | homie | chrismay: no i mean the way you called them, -bitstream-bitstream ....blah |
| 11:57.37 | Xano | I am trying to chown a 777'ed folder on a shared server (so no root access) to www-data, but I keep getting a permission denied. Is there a way to work around this, or is that due to restrictions to my own account? |
| 11:57.38 | homie | chrismay: with all the encodeing.slant,weight etc... |
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| 11:58.06 | homie | chrismay: i normally look for them with xfontsel or so before i put them in my .Xresources file |
| 11:59.16 | chrismay | homie: i'm using lines like these in my .Xsession file: xrdb -override /mnt/wdigital/config/xresource/emacs, worked fine before squeeze |
| 11:59.49 | chrismay | homie: and it still works fine for xressources other then choosing these fonts |
| 12:00.28 | chrismay | homie: for example the background color of the xterm is still set correctly this way |
| 12:00.57 | homie | chrismay: so it's the fonts itself or font-lookup way which is somehow not working ? |
| 12:01.20 | homie | chrismay: the spec for the font, does it work with fontsel ? |
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| 12:02.09 | chrismay | homie: no, it doesn't show up in xfontsel |
| 12:02.17 | homie | see |
| 12:02.27 | homie | the spec is false somehow |
| 12:02.39 | homie | try another spec which works... |
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| 12:03.09 | chrismay | homie: xfontsel does only show the character and teminal family for bitstream-vesa |
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| 12:03.34 | homie | chrismay: xfontsel or so gives you complete access to all the fields of the fontspec |
| 12:03.50 | homie | chrismay: you can choose every one of them separately |
| 12:04.07 | chrismay | homie: yes, i got my font spec this way before |
| 12:04.09 | homie | chrismay: select all of them to one fontspec wich is displaying correctly |
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| 12:05.20 | chrismay | homie: there is only -bitstream-terminal-.... and -bitstream-character-...., what about -bitstream-bitsream-..., it's missing |
| 12:05.44 | homie | heheh |
| 12:05.48 | homie | there you go |
| 12:05.58 | homie | there's no bitstream-bitstream |
| 12:06.29 | homie | reinstall the font i would say |
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| 12:07.03 | homie | you got maybe bitrot or so.... |
| 12:07.10 | homie | on your partition there over.... |
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| 12:08.28 | chrismay | homie: installed squeeze yesterday, repartitioned everything |
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| 12:08.48 | chrismay | homie: manually |
| 12:09.19 | homie | well it maybe due to the update, not anything fs specific i mean.... |
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| 12:27.06 | chrismay | homie: there was no hint file in /etc/defoma/hints, I created one like this: defoma-font register-all /etc/defoma/hints/ownbitstreamvera-hints, run dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and defoma-reconfigure, restarted the xserver tried gnome window manager and stumpwm ... |
| 12:28.14 | chrismay | the fonts are now linked to /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/ but fontsel still doesn't show them. That's all I tried |
| 12:28.50 | chrismay | blah |
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| 12:30.19 | chrismay | strange that this is not known because it's a fresh installation, i couldn't possibly make something wrong as far as I can see |
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| 12:31.33 | chrismay | maybe I should learn to live without these ttf-bitstream-vesa fonts |
| 12:32.43 | chrismay | ls /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/ |
| 12:32.43 | chrismay | cmex10.ttf cmsy10.ttf eufm10.ttffonts.scale luximri.ttf luxirb.ttf luxisbi.ttf luxisr.ttfVeraBd.ttf VeraMoBd.ttf VeraMono.ttfVera.ttf |
| 12:32.43 | chrismay | cmmi10.ttf encodings.dir fonts.aliasluximbi.ttf luximr.ttf luxirri.ttf luxisb.ttf msam10.ttfVeraBI.ttf VeraMoBI.ttf VeraSeBd.ttfwasy10.ttf |
| 12:32.55 | chrismay | sorry |
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| 12:35.03 | chrismay | good thing is, Shekhinah finally arrived |
| 12:37.03 | chrismay | But he said: You can not see My face. For no human can see me and live. |
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| 12:41.02 | pishguy | hi all. this line is not work correctly from bash: gksu echo "menuentry 'Microsoft Windows' --class os { insmod ntfs set root='(hd0,msdos0)' chainloader +1} " >> /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
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| 12:44.27 | Gorilla_No_Baka | hello gents |
| 12:44.33 | Gorilla_No_Baka | anyone around here? |
| 12:44.35 | rgr | so which notifier package do you use for erc on linux, specifically debian? |
| 12:45.40 | Gorilla_No_Baka | right ... i have a problem with debian squeeze.. everytime i do a right click the first option in the menu that pops up gets activated without giving me the time or the opportunity to select the option i really want.. any workarounds ? Cheers |
| 12:46.38 | llutz | pishguy: echo "menuentry 'Microsoft Windows' --class os { insmod ntfs set root='(hd0,msdos0)' chainloader +1} " |sudo tee -a /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 12:47.39 | llutz | or su -c" tee -a /boot/grub/grub.cfg" |
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| 12:49.27 | Tired | Gorilla_No_Baka, use that weird menu key? |
| 12:49.57 | Tired | wee, nickchange |
| 12:50.31 | liable | is their a funky known glibc bug in sid atm? |
| 12:50.38 | liable | otherwise i just got lucky |
| 12:50.42 | Gorilla_No_Baka | Iridos: using the keyboard works.. no problems.. the idea was to fix the annoying problem with the maouse |
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| 12:51.03 | Iridos | well... you said workaround :-P |
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| 12:51.53 | Gorilla_No_Baka | lol |
| 12:51.57 | Gorilla_No_Baka | fair enough.. |
| 12:51.59 | Gorilla_No_Baka | :P |
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| 12:52.31 | Gorilla_No_Baka | anyway.. lemme refraze it.. How can i fix this one? |
| 12:54.27 | Gorilla_No_Baka | anyway.. that`s not really important as i can live without it.. |
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| 12:54.47 | Gorilla_No_Baka | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:55.25 | AciD_ | hi |
| 12:55.30 | cahoot | a module? put it in /etc/modules (unless that's obsolete now) |
| 12:55.51 | Delf | I'm going insane! |
| 12:55.59 | Gorilla_No_Baka | nope |
| 12:56.04 | Delf | I been trying for freaking hours to understand the man dhcpd.conf |
| 12:56.06 | wols | cahoot: works fine still |
| 12:56.28 | Gorilla_No_Baka | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.42 | wols | that's no driver, that's a shared lib |
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| 12:57.30 | Gorilla_No_Baka | i created a bash script not elegant at all and i linked the icon toward the bash script but what i would really like is to have the stupid driver loading automatically at startup |
| 12:57.38 | Gorilla_No_Baka | wols: my bad |
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| 12:57.54 | Gorilla_No_Baka | wols: so how do i load the bugger atomatically at startup? |
| 12:57.57 | wols | what software needs this shared lib? |
| 12:58.12 | AciD_ | after some unexpected hard reset, I saw that some files from / are corrupted. So I decided to reainstall all the packages using "dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install" { print $1 }' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install". For unknown reason, nothing will install outputing this error "E: Impossible d'effectuer la configuration immédiate de « bash ». Veuillez consulter la page de manuel apt.conf(5) et notamment la section à |
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| 12:58.35 | AciD_ | any idea how to force the system to reinstall all installed packages ? |
| 12:58.36 | Gorilla_No_Baka | wols: the stupid skype |
| 12:59.00 | wols | and what are you doing manually to make it work after a boot? |
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| 12:59.33 | Gorilla_No_Baka | wols: #! /bin/bash |
| 12:59.33 | Gorilla_No_Baka | LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype |
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| 13:00.38 | wols | then start skype like this. done |
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| 13:01.18 | Gorilla_No_Baka | that`s what i ended up doing.. I was just curious if there is a way to force that lib loandin at startup |
| 13:03.00 | wols | you can load it systemwide somehow iirc, but that's a bad idea |
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| 13:04.03 | Gorilla_No_Baka | wols: would you mind elaborating it.. |
| 13:06.49 | wols | Gorilla_No_Baka: ld.so.preload which is, as I said a bad idea |
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| 13:07.23 | Gorilla_No_Baka | ok cheers wols |
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| 13:13.41 | cahoot | wols, just out of interest, simply adding /usr/lib/libv4l to ld.so.conf is useless? |
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| 13:14.32 | wols | cahoot: could work I dunno. skype is not in debian, but the v4l1 should be and should be in the ld.so.conf path imho |
| 13:14.40 | wols | if both are from outside, all bets are off of course |
| 13:15.14 | Iridos | Gorilla_No_Baka, sorry, was reading something else... anyway, I wonder if it's your mouse acting up somehow... perhaps run xev to see what events are generated and work towards the reason that way? |
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| 13:15.36 | Gorilla_No_Baka | cheers Iridos |
| 13:16.16 | Gorilla_No_Baka | so just to make sure.. Nobody else has experienced this weird stuff on squeeze so far .. right? |
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| 13:16.24 | wols | ,file /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so |
| 13:16.28 | judd | /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so in squeeze/i386: libv4l-0: usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so |
| 13:16.34 | Iridos | Gorilla_No_Baka, having a shot at it in the blue... it used to be possible to define the same mouse twice... once via its own device and once via /dev/input/mice and that I could imagine to lead to all kinds of weird results? |
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| 13:18.34 | Iridos | Gorilla_No_Baka, for the 2nd... if you wrote a wrapper like this, that's a good solution... if you don't want to call the wrappers name, you could define an alias as well, I guess... I also wonder if you shouldn't just use LD_LIBRARY_PATH instead of LD_PRELOAD? |
| 13:19.01 | Gorilla_No_Baka | Iridos i will have a look at it .. |
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| 13:19.23 | Iridos | Gorilla_No_Baka, "Nobody else has experienced this weird stuff on squeeze" <--- check the bts (how to: /msg dpkg bts ) |
| 13:19.49 | Gorilla_No_Baka | 10x Iridos |
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| 13:21.55 | ujjain | Does Apache default support virtual hosts in Debian? |
| 13:22.49 | Iridos | hard to tell what package to check for bugs, though... could be xorg, gnome/sawfish (or whatever DE/WM you're using) |
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| 13:23.08 | Iridos | sawfish? why do I always find that gnome uses sawfish when I google for it... it's not true for ages |
| 13:23.32 | Iridos | dpkg, gnome window manager |
| 13:23.32 | dpkg | Iridos: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 13:24.21 | smhar | greetings |
| 13:24.24 | Iridos | metacity! |
| 13:24.25 | wols | ujjain: yes |
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| 13:25.12 | Delf | How do I make a class for some specific known clients in isc-dhcp-server? |
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| 13:26.00 | ujjain | http://www.codepad.eu/view/32191663 < What's wrong with my vhost config then? |
| 13:26.16 | Iridos | dpkg, gnome wm is GNOME is not a <window manager>, but a <desktop environment>. Metacity is its default window manager since GNOME 2.2, before that GNOME used Enlightenment and then Sawfish as its window manager. |
| 13:26.16 | dpkg | okay, Iridos |
| 13:26.56 | Iridos | streuner_, listen to dlf _now_! |
| 13:27.06 | smhar | my / fs is almost full and I want to reduce it. one way I have is to move the apt cache to a seperate harddisk. if I moved the whole /vat/cache/apt/ and added it to /etc/fstab , is this enough? |
| 13:27.31 | gnarface | smhar: apt-cache clean? |
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| 13:28.12 | smhar | gnarface, I do not want it purged, I want to used it later for the other computers in my small network |
| 13:28.13 | Trewas | Iridos: by the way gnome3's window manager is mutter |
| 13:28.13 | Delf | Anyone please? I'm having brain bleeding. |
| 13:28.21 | Iridos | dpkg, gnome wm is also Since gnome3 Mutter is the default window manager |
| 13:28.21 | dpkg | Iridos: okay |
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| 13:28.25 | ujjain | [Sat Jun 18 15:26:49 2011] [error] VirtualHost *:80 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undefined results |
| 13:28.27 | Iridos | Trewas, I just realized :) |
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| 13:29.01 | Delf | I need help to config the dhcpd.conf. I've done half of the settings but I'm unable to divide in two separate groups/classes. |
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| 13:34.52 | Iridos | Delf, I don't think I would try to answer that anyway... but without the needed information, nobody can... "/msg dpkg ask" about an example question... also put your current config in a pastebin together with the errors you get ... mmh and I wonder if there's not a channel more specific to dhcpd than #debian.. and last but not least I'd visit a hospital for the brain-bleeding really quickly |
| 13:35.00 | Elirips | Hello all. I'm looking for a program like WinSCP - I use it to: Connect to a remote host via ssh, then I tell it to monitor a local dir for files that change and whenever something changes it copies that to the remote host. ATM I'm using wine to run WinSCP, as I didnt find anything similiar for debian - anyone an idea? |
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| 13:37.27 | Delf | http://paste.debian.net/120253/ |
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| 13:38.55 | wols | Elirips: rsync? |
| 13:40.55 | Delf | wols: Help me man.. |
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| 13:42.04 | Elirips | wols: Mmhh :P Was more looking for something where I only need to navigate to the two dirs and click a button.. lazy as I am |
| 13:42.15 | Elirips | wols: Or do you know about a GUI for rsync? |
| 13:42.36 | wols | no but I don't know a whole lot about rsync either |
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| 13:45.15 | Delf | I can't find proper manual or documentation for the dhcpd.conf syntax. What is this, am I the only retard? |
| 13:45.51 | pa7iQ | hi can someone help with gcc? `gcc config.c` gives me /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc, where config.c is a simple program as: int main () { ; return 0; } |
| 13:45.57 | Delf | is very irritated |
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| 13:48.26 | valdyn | !b-e pa7iQ |
| 13:48.26 | dpkg | pa7iQ: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 13:48.30 | operhiem1 | I'm confused by the jabberd2 vs jabberd14 packages. The naming would suggest that jabberd14 is jabberd 1.4 and jabberd2 is jabber 2.2, but the description for jabberd2 claims that it, too, is jabberd14. |
| 13:48.50 | wols | Delf: you do know that your use of the isc dhcp-server is totall and utter overkill, right? |
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| 13:48.59 | pa7iQ | sounds like, but I have already installed that, and libc6-dev also |
| 13:49.13 | operhiem1 | **libjabberd2 |
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| 13:49.52 | Delf | wols: What do you mean by overkill? |
| 13:50.00 | Delf | the netmask? |
| 13:50.02 | wols | operhiem1: jabberd14 doesn't claim anything about jabberd 2 here |
| 13:50.05 | Delf | wols: http://paste.debian.net/120257/ |
| 13:50.27 | operhiem1 | wols: The other way around: libjabberd2 claims to be runtime libraries for jabberd14. |
| 13:51.02 | valdyn | operhiem1: file a bug report for broken package description |
| 13:51.06 | wols | Delf: the software is way to biig and complicated for your uses. I told you long ago to use dnsmasq and be done with it. if you have 500 seats in a corporation, then maybe isc-dhcp-server is advised. but not with your home land of less than half a dozen devices |
| 13:51.32 | john_rambo | This is my sources.list >>>> http://pastebin.com/ywqy2Wye .....How to add the sid repo ? |
| 13:51.48 | wols | ,versions jabberd2 |
| 13:51.49 | judd | Package jabberd2 on i386 -- sid: 2.2.8-2.1 |
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| 13:52.09 | wols | operhiem1: my jabberd doesn't claim anything about any 1.x version, only jabberd14 does |
| 13:52.10 | Delf | wols: It's not too big or complicated. The syntax is merely poor documented. |
| 13:52.31 | valdyn | operhiem1: nevermind, ignore that |
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| 13:53.48 | operhiem1 | wols: Are you running squeeze? My libjabberd2 package description contains the line "In this package you will find the runtime library for jabberd14..." valdyn: You mean the description is correct? Does that mean there aren't any packages for jabberd2? |
| 13:54.28 | valdyn | operhiem1: looks like jabberd2 does not need any libjabberd* and libjabberd2 is for jabberd14 |
| 13:54.33 | wols | operhiem1: " jabberd2 vs jabberd14 packages" you didn't say anything about LIBjabber* |
| 13:54.40 | valdyn | operhiem1: thats just names, adminttedly confusing |
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| 13:55.02 | operhiem1 | wols: Right, that was a typo, sorry. |
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| 13:55.19 | wols | operhiem1: there is no jabberd2 in squeeze as you can see from judd |
| 13:55.26 | Iridos | Elirips, rsync will automatically sync _without_ the need to click buttons... you can even run it via cron |
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| 13:55.39 | operhiem1 | wols: What is judd? |
| 13:56.07 | wols | see that bot over there? it's named judd |
| 13:56.14 | wols | and it wrote something |
| 13:56.31 | rocketmagnet | i've a important question: i've tunderbird installed under windows and now also linux and i want to share the same settings (mails, contacts, etc) accross the two operation system ?? |
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| 13:56.59 | wols | rocketmagnet: sure. both profiles are interchangeable |
| 13:57.51 | rocketmagnet | so the windows and linux version can share the same profile ?? |
| 13:57.56 | rocketmagnet | that would be really cool |
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| 14:00.18 | rocketmagnet | wls: and you are shoure that's working so i don't loose any of my contacts and emails ? |
| 14:00.36 | wols | yes it is working but you want backups anyways |
| 14:00.57 | Iridos | backups? what're them |
| 14:01.23 | rocketmagnet | wols: to make a backup i just have to copy the hole profile folder somewhere else or ? |
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| 14:03.48 | rocketmagnet | wols: thank you, i'll give it a try now - |
| 14:03.52 | rocketmagnet | cya later |
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| 14:07.48 | pa7iQ | `apt-get install --reinstall gcc` solved my problem with 6 upgraded, 10 newly installed packages |
| 14:08.20 | cga_ | hi all, how can i check if php (lenny) was compiled with certain flags ? |
| 14:09.05 | treebeen | cga_: what flags are you looking for? |
| 14:09.52 | cga_ | "if PHP was not compiled with FORCE_REDIRECT, you SHOULD set doc_root" < force redirect |
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| 14:10.32 | cga_ | treebeen: ^^^ |
| 14:11.45 | pa7iQ | cga_: http://php.net/manual/en/function.phpinfo.php |
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| 14:13.18 | digilink | hi all... is there a kickstart equivalent for debian? seems like I remember from a long time ago a similar project, but can't remember the details. I've got 5 servers to deploy all with differing configs and would like to create a config file for each so I can just boot and go, is there something that exists in debian to do this? |
| 14:13.53 | cga_ | pa7iQ: hi, i need something on CLI if possible. i'm only hardening php as much as possible before installing anuything else (like fcgi or nginx and wordpress) |
| 14:14.07 | cga_ | digilink: FAI |
| 14:14.11 | cga_ | !fai |
| 14:14.11 | dpkg | Fully Automatic Installation (FAI) is an automated tool to install or deploy Debian GNU/Linux (and other distributions) on a bunch of different hosts or a cluster. It is more flexible than tools like <kickstart> (Red Hat), autoyast and alice (SuSE) or jumpstart (Sun Solaris). FAI can also be used for configuration management of a running system. http://fai-project.org/ #fai on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 14:14.26 | digilink | :O |
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| 14:14.37 | cga_ | you are welcome |
| 14:14.40 | digilink | exactly what Im looking for! I think that's the one I recall, thanks! |
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| 14:14.48 | cga_ | you are welcome, again |
| 14:15.02 | FryChickWatmln | I once dated a guy named Debian. He had a fine ass. Was this room named after him? |
| 14:15.15 | cga_ | ahahhaaa |
| 14:15.30 | cga_ | was he a trnasexual? a mix of deb and ian? :P |
| 14:15.47 | FryChickWatmln | but he was an effeminate |
| 14:15.49 | FryChickWatmln | swimmer |
| 14:15.51 | cga_ | apologizes but this was funny to say :P |
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| 14:15.52 | FryChickWatmln | he wasn't a tranny |
| 14:16.21 | FryChickWatmln | half japanese half norwegian |
| 14:16.30 | cahoot | sunday already? |
| 14:16.31 | treebeen | cga_: php -r "phpinfo();" |
| 14:16.31 | FryChickWatmln | nice curvy bubble butt |
| 14:16.42 | cga_ | nuff of that |
| 14:16.45 | cga_ | thank treebeen |
| 14:17.54 | cga_ | treebeen: oh.. it's same output as "php -i" so i think i didn't miss it the first time. it's not in there... thanks |
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| 14:20.58 | Renekton | hi |
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| 14:22.32 | va | hi. i upgraded lenny to squeeze. X freezes several minutes after login, then reboots after a min or so. installed closed so |
| 14:22.36 | va | urs |
| 14:22.52 | Renekton | I'm installed Debian net install and changed repository from squeeze to wheezy and have a problem with radeon drivers. on glx info get name of display: :0.0 Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig. have ati radeon x700 |
| 14:22.53 | va | *closed source nvidia drivers, nothing changed. what to do? |
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| 14:23.18 | treebeen | cga_: does this have something to do with it? http://php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php |
| 14:23.28 | treebeen | cga_: there is a boolean... |
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| 14:24.35 | gnugr | va:for nvidia drivers go " http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers " |
| 14:24.36 | nkuttler | va: did you install them using dkms? |
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| 14:24.48 | lancelot_of | hi all |
| 14:24.57 | va | installed with the shell script from nvidia page |
| 14:25.06 | lancelot_of | is it possible to downgrade debian from testing to stable? |
| 14:25.43 | Iridos | lancelot_of, can you say "fresh install"? |
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| 14:25.50 | cga_ | treebeen: yes i know. i was just curios to know if it was compiled. but then i realize that the boolean is better. (even if i want that turned off if i mange to make things work without it) |
| 14:26.03 | nkuttler | !tell va about nvidia |
| 14:26.06 | wols | !tell lancelot_of about downgrade |
| 14:26.22 | wols | va: congratulations for hosing your debian. good luck |
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| 14:27.00 | tsanhwa | after recent upgrade, I encounter a problem with audio. everytime after reboot, there would be no sound, and I found that there are two pulseaudio process, and it is after I kill one of them that the sound come back. I use debian testing, and KDE 4.6 |
| 14:27.13 | va | but my problem was there before installing the closed source driver |
| 14:27.16 | tsanhwa | any guys have similiar problem? |
| 14:27.26 | cga_ | va: there are some things to pay attention to when going from version to version , read on wiki. |
| 14:27.41 | treebeen | wols: i did this too once, and somehow I could overwrite it with the debian way and it still works... |
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| 14:28.36 | wols | treebeen: sure, you can be lucky. but no one here wants to troubleshoot nvidia issues when one installed from nvidia.com. there is a reason we don't support that installer her |
| 14:28.39 | wols | e |
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| 14:31.17 | gnugr | tsanhwa: do you have wheezy multimedia in sources.list? |
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| 14:33.08 | tsanhwa | gnugr: wheezy multimedia? what's that |
| 14:33.38 | wols | !tell tsanhwa about dmm |
| 14:33.40 | dvs | !tell tsanhwa about multimedia |
| 14:33.44 | dvs | doh |
| 14:33.50 | gnugr | !tell tsanhwa -about dmm wheezy |
| 14:35.16 | tsanhwa | thank you all |
| 14:35.19 | gnugr | tsanhwa: also be sure you have alsa-base and alsa-oss installed, then checkout your alsamixer all levels up to max |
| 14:36.20 | tsanhwa | gnugr: alsa-base instanlled, while alsa-oss not |
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| 14:36.50 | tsanhwa | so what shall I do after adding the dmm repo |
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| 14:37.34 | gnugr | run your alsamixer and check all levels |
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| 14:40.17 | rajkosto | are there any files that i need to keep the same if i restore a whoe FS backup from another machine ? |
| 14:40.34 | rajkosto | i know of /etc/udev/conf.d/70-net-persistent or whatever, for network intefaces |
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| 14:42.09 | rajkosto | i am only restoring /bin /etc /home /lib /opt /root /sbin /srv /usr /var the other folders from the debian instalaltion will not be touched |
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| 14:42.49 | tsanhwa | gnugr: I max those levels now. so why shall I add the multimedia repo ? |
| 14:42.56 | Ivan_The_Terribl | Ðак Ñакое Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶ÐµÑ Ð±ÑÑÑ - ÑаÑпад оÑклÑÑен в биоÑе ( Ñо еÑÑÑ, по идее, на него не подаÑÑÑÑ Ð¿Ð¸Ñание ), а он вÑÑ Ñавно ÑабоÑаеÑ? |
| 14:43.01 | daemonkeeper | !ru |
| 14:43.01 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please talk (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian or use English here. |
| 14:43.04 | Ivan_The_Terribl | Oh |
| 14:43.06 | Ivan_The_Terribl | Sorry. |
| 14:43.11 | Ivan_The_Terribl | Wrong window. |
| 14:43.19 | dvs | da |
| 14:43.35 | daemonkeeper | rajkosto: Speaking of a raw machine backup, i.e. no files from you, you don't need to backup binary directories. You can restore them through apt + /etc backups |
| 14:44.06 | rajkosto | im fine with restoring redudant items, link between machines is 1gbps |
| 14:44.13 | rajkosto | just want it to work with minimal hassle |
| 14:44.25 | rajkosto | of course, i will change /etc/network/interfaces with correct ips |
| 14:44.55 | wols | fstab, grub config, etc. lots of stuff can be different and might need to be preserved |
| 14:45.09 | rajkosto | grub is in /boot which im not changing |
| 14:45.11 | rajkosto | same kernel on both machines |
| 14:45.21 | rajkosto | same hdd partition layouts |
| 14:45.36 | daemonkeeper | rajkosto: Nonetheless you might want to save bandwidth and/or space, if you just do dpkg --get-selections > backup; dpkg --set-selections < backup |
| 14:45.44 | wols | we cannot know that... and hence why we cannot properly advise you |
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| 14:45.59 | rajkosto | both servers, no gui |
| 14:46.01 | daemonkeeper | rajkosto: You need to backup configuration files and personal data of course |
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| 14:58.02 | mr_claus | hi, any ideas how i can find out why my 82574L adapter is slow with sending informations? i use squeeze with the latest xen dom0 kernel |
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| 15:09.40 | Digdilem | mr_claus, what does the last line in "dmesg |grep eth" say? |
| 15:10.06 | Digdilem | i had this issue yesterday with a proliant that was syncing at 10mbit |
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| 15:11.53 | Renekton | I'm installed Debian net install and changed repository from squeeze to wheezy and have a problem with radeon drivers. on glx info get name of display: :0.0 Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig. have ati radeon x700 |
| 15:12.07 | mr_claus | digilink: i already checked the speed with ethtool, it's 1gbit |
| 15:12.07 | Digdilem | mr_claus in my case, i needed: "apt-get install firmware-linux-free" and then modprobe something like ts3, but yours will be a different module. google says it might be: "modprobe igb" |
| 15:12.08 | mr_claus | [ 15.897751] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX |
| 15:12.08 | mr_claus | [ 15.897863] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready |
| 15:12.22 | Digdilem | mr_claus, ah, not the same then. |
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| 15:13.05 | mr_claus | Digdilem: it's intersting that i only have problems in ond direction, other direction say 48.2MB/s |
| 15:13.05 | wols | Renekton: check your Xorg.0.log |
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| 15:13.14 | Renekton | have it |
| 15:13.47 | Renekton | maybe found as bug in testing (#630780 |
| 15:13.47 | Digdilem | mr_claus, I'm assuming you're trying with a variety of destinations to test on the lan, not just one? |
| 15:14.31 | mr_claus | Digdilem: of course because i need to know if it's really that server and not the other one |
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| 15:14.54 | Digdilem | yeah. i don't know what it could be, other than some qos or shaping on a router somewhere, or in software |
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| 15:17.28 | mr_claus | Digdilem: perhaps the solution is very simple, the cable or something like that |
| 15:17.36 | Digdilem | yes, that's true |
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| 15:20.28 | arsenm | Does anyone know what the current story is with installing both the proprietary nvidia drivers and flgrx/catalyst? There seems to be some mention of work on making it work on the internet. I'd like to have some idea that it wouldn't be too painful to setup before the work of throwing away my current system and switching to debian for it |
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| 15:23.23 | wols | arsenm: what you write looks like gibberish. "There seems to be some mention of work on making it work on the internet" |
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| 15:23.48 | arsenm | Yeah, that's not a good sentence |
| 15:23.56 | arsenm | Basically I found a few things like this http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2011/01/msg00732.html |
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| 15:26.26 | wols | the trouble is, both driverpackages would need libGL.so filenames. so installing both at once is not doable |
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| 15:49.02 | KerrMD | MOrning people |
| 15:49.06 | KerrMD | and non-people |
| 15:49.22 | Zvpun | Should I install any acpi packages on a current laptop? Are there any generally important acpi packages, that most users want? |
| 15:50.16 | wols | Zvpun: tasksel has a laptop package. yes you should install the things in there. maybe not BT if you have no BT chip |
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| 15:52.13 | Zvpun | wols: Thank you, Sir. |
| 15:52.18 | KerrMD | I have/had a dual boot system here running grub2 (I think) with windows 7 being the first o/s on the first partition and debian being the second. Would it be possible to move grub/boot loader from the 100mb partition left by Windows to the root partition so that I can then move the root and home partitions forward on the platter? |
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| 15:54.13 | Zvpun | KerrMD: AFAIK Windows 7 has 2 partitions, and the 100 MB partition is the windows 7 boot partition. Why dont you remove both of the windows partitions? |
| 15:54.56 | KerrMD | Zvpun: You are correct. I was not sure, however, if removing that 100MB partition would tank my debian and make it unbootable |
| 15:55.01 | wols | KerrMD: normally grub resides in the MBR and in /boot on your linux partition. nowhere else |
| 15:55.40 | KerrMD | wols: I was assuming that the MBR resided in that 100MB partition. My memory on bootloader geography is hazy at best. |
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| 15:55.48 | Zvpun | KerrMD: After removing your boot manager you can install a new bootmanager from a rescue disc |
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| 15:56.26 | Zvpun | KerrMD: removing the windows boot partition is independent on your linux installation and you can remove it. (Ofc as we all do, you have a backup of all your important data :-) |
| 15:56.31 | KerrMD | Zvpun: would that be a disk made from within the debian system? If so, how would I do that? |
| 15:57.11 | KerrMD | Data is backed up. It's more not wanting to go through the whole ati, wine, blah blah hassel. |
| 15:57.22 | Zvpun | KerrMD: Can you take a look at "fdisk -l" and identify your linux partitions? Do you have a linux /boot partition? (In my case: I dont and my /boot is on my / partition) |
| 15:57.34 | KerrMD | sec |
| 15:58.09 | KerrMD | what is that switch? a pile or L? |
| 15:58.14 | KerrMD | pipe* |
| 15:58.23 | Zvpun | -l as in list |
| 15:58.28 | KerrMD | ah |
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| 15:59.58 | macrobat | KerrMD: use a better font :D |
| 16:01.00 | KerrMD | It's not the font. I forgot that I must sudo/su fdisk |
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| 16:04.50 | KerrMD | http://pastebin.com/yuehhn2g |
| 16:04.59 | KerrMD | I see no /boot referrence |
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| 16:05.39 | KerrMD | /dev/sda5 is / /dev/sda7 is /home |
| 16:05.54 | KerrMD | /dev/sda2 is the nuked win7 install |
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| 16:08.58 | Al3xG0 | How do I change the kernel on my server? |
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| 16:09.09 | un214 | then /boot is a directory in /dev/sda5 |
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| 16:11.52 | wols | Al3xG0: install a new one, set grub2 to boot it |
| 16:12.28 | Al3xG0 | yes |
| 16:12.29 | Al3xG0 | wols |
| 16:12.39 | Al3xG0 | my kernel is patch |
| 16:12.54 | Al3xG0 | do not want this shit |
| 16:12.57 | wols | !enter |
| 16:12.57 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 16:13.05 | Al3xG0 | Linux ns222116.ovh.net 2.6.38.2-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-32 #1 SMP Fri Apr 15 17:41:28 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 16:13.11 | Al3xG0 | ;/ |
| 16:13.12 | wols | what "shit"? you need to learn how to ask questions on irc me thinks |
| 16:13.15 | Zvpun | KerrMD: Once you have confirmed un214 assertion (provided you use grub2) you can check that your system is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then you can install-grub /dev/sda (which will install into the MBR of your harddisk) |
| 16:13.17 | KerrMD | un214: sorry, did not notice what you said. I've not finished my first cup of coffee. so that means I can blow the 100MB partition and move sda5-7 safely? |
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| 16:13.38 | wols | Al3xG0: are you inside a VPS? |
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| 16:13.52 | Al3xG0 | wols Forgive me more this kernel gives me very angry |
| 16:13.53 | Al3xG0 | :X |
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| 16:13.59 | Al3xG0 | no dedicated server |
| 16:14.05 | wols | !enter |
| 16:14.05 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 16:14.15 | wols | and you make me very angry by mistreating your enter key |
| 16:14.34 | Al3xG0 | lol |
| 16:15.11 | KerrMD | Zvpun: how would I confirm un214's assertion? Yes, I do have grub2. |
| 16:15.18 | Zvpun | KerrMD: I am not sure though, you said sda2 is your windows, why does it show as linux then? Do you want sda2 as your system? |
| 16:15.39 | Zvpun | KerrMD: well you mount the partition and check that there is a /boot directory and that there are some files in it. |
| 16:15.41 | KerrMD | Zvpun: SDA2 WAS windows |
| 16:16.05 | KerrMD | I think I would have to do that from a livecd, yes? |
| 16:16.57 | Zvpun | KerrMD: basically your next step is, find the partition with /boot/ (and some files) make sure it is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then you "install-grub /dev/sda" into the MBR of your harddisk |
| 16:17.33 | Zvpun | KerrMD: forgive me it is grub-install, not install-grub |
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| 16:19.44 | Al3xG0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.44 | Al3xG0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.44 | Al3xG0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.57 | Al3xG0 | the who's that? |
| 16:20.15 | jhutchins_lt | So no split screen in Dolphin like there was in conqueror? |
| 16:20.18 | KerrMD | Thank you for the info and assistance Zvpun |
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| 16:20.29 | Zvpun | KerrMD: if you use a livecd you have to tell grub-install where your /boot/ directory of your linux system is and what config it should use |
| 16:20.31 | KerrMD | jhutchins_lt: YOu can split screen iirc. |
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| 16:20.50 | KerrMD | Zvpun: Ah, ok thanks. I'll try from here first hten |
| 16:20.57 | Zvpun | KerrMD: you are welcome |
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| 16:21.06 | wols | !tell KerrMD about fixmbr |
| 16:21.28 | jelly-home | Al3xG0: sounds like you're trying to install packages from Debian 5 (lenny) on some older release? |
| 16:21.43 | KerrMD | fixmbr is a windows util as far as I know or is it platform intependant? |
| 16:22.04 | wols | KerrMD: read the message |
| 16:22.23 | jelly-home | Al3xG0: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file. In fact, follow the whole /msg dpkg BAT |
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| 16:22.36 | Al3xG0 | jelly-home openvz want the installer so I have to return more to the latest kernel'm not realizing |
| 16:22.56 | wols | Al3xG0: you are inside a VPS then and can't change kernels |
| 16:23.13 | Zvpun | What is the difference between the gnome package and the gnome-desktop-environment package? |
| 16:23.14 | wols | !br |
| 16:23.14 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:23.16 | KerrMD | OOps, did not see the message bit. the dpkg threw me off |
| 16:23.20 | jelly-home | Al3xG0: sorry, I can't parse your lines. |
| 16:23.22 | wols | !tell Zvpun about install gnome |
| 16:23.22 | Al3xG0 | http://paste.debian.net/120266/ |
| 16:23.27 | Al3xG0 | jelly-home http://paste.debian.net/120266/ |
| 16:23.53 | jelly-home | Al3xG0: you don't have any proper Debian mirrors listed in there. |
| 16:24.00 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell Al3xG0 about lenny sources.list |
| 16:24.57 | jhutchins_lt | What's the trick to mount a USB device RW instead of RO? |
| 16:25.10 | jhutchins_lt | vfat |
| 16:25.38 | un214 | ntfs-3g |
| 16:25.41 | wols | it usually is mounted rw unless it senses a dirty filesystem |
| 16:25.46 | wols | !tell jhutchins_lt about vfatrw |
| 16:25.56 | jelly-home | Al3xG0: what Debian release are you supposed to be running? pastebin the output of dpkg -l dpkg libc6 apt |
| 16:26.01 | jelly-home | !tell Al3xG0 about BAT |
| 16:26.39 | jhutchins_lt | wols: shouldn't KDE's utils offer some way to do that? |
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| 16:26.52 | wols | jhutchins_lt: probably. now clue what automounter kde uses |
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| 16:29.59 | Al3xG0 | jelly-home http://paste.debian.net/120267/ |
| 16:30.06 | thewanderer1s | how do I disable nepomuk in KDE? it's causing OOM on my machine |
| 16:30.08 | Al3xG0 | !tell Al3xG0 about BAT |
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| 16:32.25 | jelly-home | Al3xG0: alright, that looks like lenny, so go ahead and add a proper deb mirror line |
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| 16:34.18 | jhutchins | Ok, it mounts RW in Lenny, but in squeeze it's ro. |
| 16:34.25 | mohamed-ragab | i can't extract file |
| 16:34.26 | mohamed-ragab | file file.rar , file.rar: RAR archive data, v1d, os: Win32 |
| 16:34.39 | mohamed-ragab | # file file.rar , file.rar: RAR archive data, v1d, os: Win32 |
| 16:35.06 | Al3xG0 | ns222116:~# uname -a |
| 16:35.06 | Al3xG0 | Linux ns222116.ovh.net 2.6.38.2-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-32 #1 SMP Fri Apr 15 17:41:28 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 16:35.11 | Al3xG0 | jelly-home |
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| 16:37.10 | Al3xG0 | jelly-home http://paste.debian.net/120270/ |
| 16:37.11 | Al3xG0 | ;/ |
| 16:37.18 | wols | jelly-home: how does one check if one is inside a VPS? |
| 16:37.27 | wols | is there a generic method? |
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| 16:38.52 | Al3xG0 | ns222116:~# uname -r |
| 16:38.52 | Al3xG0 | 2.6.38.2-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-32 |
| 16:38.54 | Al3xG0 | ;/ |
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| 16:42.01 | Al3xG0 | help-me |
| 16:42.11 | Jarvis | ^i build-essential |
| 16:42.13 | Jarvis | oops |
| 16:42.20 | Jarvis | wrong window :p |
| 16:43.05 | wols | Al3xG0: jelly-home told you what to do |
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| 16:43.48 | Al3xG0 | already did and it worked |
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| 16:44.13 | Al3xG0 | put the repo list |
| 16:44.52 | Al3xG0 | http://paste.debian.net/120270/ here is the sign that updated the kernel and reboot I no longer started the kernel |
| 16:44.54 | Al3xG0 | wols |
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| 16:46.56 | Al3xG0 | wols help-me? |
| 16:47.01 | evilmanu | hi all, I've installed with sid repository debian and alsa stop working. alsamixergui give me that error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 16:47.16 | wols | Al3xG0: are you sure you aren't inside openvz or virtuozzo? |
| 16:47.31 | jhutchins_lt | It appears that kioclient handles opening the device in the file manager... |
| 16:47.44 | jhutchins_lt | evilmanu: see /topic |
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| 16:47.57 | Al3xG0 | yes wols |
| 16:48.04 | cheater_ | hi, is it possible to get an exclusive write lock on a directory? |
| 16:48.11 | Al3xG0 | ns222116:/boot/grub# uname -r |
| 16:48.11 | Al3xG0 | 2.6.38.2-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-32 |
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| 16:48.58 | evilmanu | that channel is invite only... |
| 16:49.12 | babilen | evilmanu: On irc.debian.org / irc.oftc.net |
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| 16:49.42 | Al3xG0 | ns222116:/boot/grub# /etc/init.d/vz start |
| 16:49.42 | Al3xG0 | Running kernel is not OpenVZ kernel...failed |
| 16:49.44 | Al3xG0 | wols |
| 16:49.44 | wols | Al3xG0: if you are inside a VPS you cannot change your kernel |
| 16:50.07 | Al3xG0 | I am not in a vps |
| 16:50.08 | wols | Al3xG0: it seems your english is not up to task. |
| 16:50.09 | wols | !pt |
| 16:50.09 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 16:50.12 | rajkosto | well you can |
| 16:50.17 | rajkosto | but not on openvz |
| 16:50.25 | Al3xG0 | this and a dedicated server |
| 16:50.27 | rajkosto | vmware and xen are fine |
| 16:50.47 | wols | Al3xG0: not having a /proc/modules doesn't make me believe you |
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| 16:51.44 | rajkosto | you cannot change things like /etc/network/interfaces and kernel on openvz |
| 16:51.58 | rajkosto | also it rewrites files like /etc/resolv.conf /etc/hostname /etc/hosts on boot |
| 16:52.09 | rajkosto | you cannot load your own modules |
| 16:52.18 | rajkosto | deal with it |
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| 16:53.31 | thewanderer1s | how does one disable KDE4's Nepomuk system-wide? |
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| 16:53.43 | wols | thewanderer1s: uninstall it? easiest I'd say |
| 16:53.46 | Al3xG0 | Anyone know how to help me? I am a kernel patch from OVH server |
| 16:54.06 | thewanderer1s | wols: yeah, give me a package to --purge, I'll do that with pleasure! |
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| 16:54.34 | rajkosto | Al3xG0, if you want to run openvz host node on that server, install openvz kernel |
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| 16:54.49 | wols | thewanderer1s: what is the process' binary file on the disk? |
| 16:54.53 | smhar | I have made a directory in one partition /dev/sda3 called /var_cache_apt can I mount this directory as /va/cache/apt instead of the whole /dev/sda3 fs? |
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| 16:55.26 | thewanderer1s | wols: /usr/bin/nepomukserver... part of kdebase-runtime |
| 16:55.26 | catsup | kdebase-runtime: /usr/bin/nepomukserver |
| 16:55.51 | thewanderer1s | do tell me I can remove this without completely and utterly breaking KDE |
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| 16:56.02 | Al3xG0 | rajkosto Not only has this kernel patched |
| 16:56.19 | rajkosto | no clue what you are saying, learn english |
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| 16:56.49 | rozie | thewanderer1s: just disable indexing |
| 16:57.01 | catsup | thewanderer1s: dpkg-divert --rename --local --add /usr/bin/nepomukserver |
| 16:57.04 | Al3xG0 | in the data center not only has this kernel with kernel patch |
| 16:57.11 | thewanderer1s | catsup: it will cause errors, won't it? |
| 16:57.11 | wols | thewanderer1s: first hit of "disable nepomukserver": http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=59475 |
| 16:57.43 | catsup | thewanderer1s: possibly |
| 16:57.52 | flamingspinach | smhar: wouldn't you need to mount the whole /dev/sda3 fs anyway in order to read the filesystem and find the var_cache_apt directory on it? |
| 16:57.56 | flamingspinach | why don't you just do that and then make a symlink? |
| 16:58.21 | catsup | but that will guarantee it doesn't start |
| 16:58.29 | flamingspinach | like `cd /var/cache ; ln -s /mnt/sda3/var_cache_apt apt` |
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| 16:58.32 | thewanderer1s | wols: oh hey, I didn't think of that... not sure if KDE won't try to spawn it at some time later, though |
| 16:59.25 | thewanderer1s | I guess the best would be setting a new default option in KDE |
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| 16:59.39 | smhar | flamingspinach, /dev/sda is already mounted somewhere. I thought I can mount a directory somewhere too. |
| 16:59.50 | catsup | smhar: one thing you can do is mount it, and then bind mount the directory on top of the root |
| 17:00.09 | wols | thewanderer1s: have you read the link? |
| 17:00.24 | catsup | smhar: like, mount /dev/whatever /whatever; mount --bind /whatever/some/sub/dir /whatever |
| 17:00.51 | catsup | (then you will need to unmount it twice) |
| 17:00.52 | smhar | catsup, I will try that, thanks |
| 17:01.17 | thewanderer1s | wols: yeah, I just want a clean setup instead of a work around |
| 17:01.28 | thewanderer1s | I think I've found the .desktop file, though |
| 17:01.30 | wols | smhar: a bind mount works but is not a good idea. simply mount your new partition at the place you want it to be |
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| 17:02.11 | wols | smhar: and if you want to exist it in two places in your filesystem, use a symlink |
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| 17:02.45 | smhar | wols, but I do not want to use the whole partition, I want just one directory of it. is this possible. |
| 17:03.13 | wols | yes. use a symlink |
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| 17:03.52 | catsup | the bind mount can hide the contents of the partition except for the one directory |
| 17:04.00 | catsup | whereas the symlink will leave it exposed somewhere |
| 17:04.04 | catsup | other than that, same diff |
| 17:04.47 | catsup | if you don't care either way, the symlink is simpler |
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| 17:07.11 | smhar | symlink will solve my issue. thanks wols, catsup, flamingspinach |
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| 17:07.19 | flamingspinach | sure |
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| 17:07.52 | Al3xG0 | I commented the lines of the old kernel and the old kernel still starts and the name does not start |
| 17:07.53 | smhar | my other problem, is a strange one. I do not have windows frames or title on any open window on gnome. |
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| 17:11.09 | wols | smhar: no window manager running probably. in a terminal, try to run metacity |
| 17:11.24 | wols | smhar: possibly check beforehand if it's not already running |
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| 17:12.35 | smhar | wols, pidof metacity shows 7002 |
| 17:13.25 | wols | maybe a metacity misconfiguration. I dunno about that wm however |
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| 17:14.32 | EM03 | hey how can I do cp somedir/ . << this omits directories |
| 17:14.57 | wols | EM03: man cp. see "recursive" |
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| 17:17.51 | EM03 | anyone here know alot about web servers |
| 17:18.13 | EM03 | if I use apache2 with fastcgi and lighttpd with fastcgi will the difference be that noticeable? |
| 17:18.26 | EM03 | i know fastcgi vs the mod_php way is a difference |
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| 17:27.41 | rue_shop2 | parport0: PC-style at 0x278, irq 5 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] but its not creating /dev/parport0 |
| 17:27.44 | rue_shop2 | !?!??!1 |
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| 17:28.36 | rue_shop2 | cmon, I have like 5 mins to get an avr programmed |
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| 17:30.25 | jhutchins_lt | rue_shop2: Did you have a support question? |
| 17:31.23 | rue_shop2 | who the hell replaced MAKEDEV with true!? |
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| 17:32.47 | rue_shop2 | ok why didn't loading the parport_pc driver create /dev/parport0 when it found the port? |
| 17:33.50 | wols | rue_shop2: udev did |
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| 17:37.22 | EM03 | I want to copy a file and name it something else, best way to do that? |
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| 17:37.35 | EM03 | cp somefile.text therealsamefile.txt ? |
| 17:37.45 | EM03 | rename while copying? |
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| 17:40.01 | bint | is it easy to use a debian lenny server as a proxyserver for windows users? |
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| 17:40.12 | bint | should be i guess |
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| 17:40.29 | Undead | ÐÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ Ð²Ñем |
| 17:40.29 | wols | sure. but you don't want to use lenny anymore but current debian stable, squeeze |
| 17:40.34 | bint | hmm |
| 17:40.35 | bint | well |
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| 17:40.44 | bint | everything runs fine |
| 17:40.49 | bint | so i kinda dont wanna upgrade |
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| 17:41.05 | wols | bint: coming february you will have to upgrade |
| 17:41.11 | wols | !tell Undead about ru |
| 17:41.22 | bint | yes february.. but thats quiet a bit |
| 17:41.42 | bint | but whats the app name to set up a proxy? |
| 17:41.44 | Zvpun_ | Hi, why would removing a package B using aptitude reset the automatically installed flag of a package A? (in my case removing abiword reset the auto flag on lots of packages: totem, vino, python-pam, ...) |
| 17:41.54 | wols | bint: the sooner you start migrating the better off you are |
| 17:42.17 | bint | thats true |
| 17:42.18 | wols | bint: there are many different proxies. there is no "best" or single one to use |
| 17:42.32 | bint | do you have experience with some? |
| 17:42.37 | Undead | anyone speak russian?Do anybody speak russian? |
| 17:42.46 | bint | i just need it for myself |
| 17:42.52 | wols | !ru |
| 17:42.52 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please talk (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian or use English here. |
| 17:42.54 | bint | should be very easy and fast to set up |
| 17:43.10 | wols | you still haven't said what you want to proxy |
| 17:43.15 | Undead | thanks ) |
| 17:43.18 | bint | my whole windows machine |
| 17:43.36 | bint | i can't reach www.leagueoflegends.com ... dunno why |
| 17:43.38 | bint | everybody else can |
| 17:43.47 | bint | when i use proxy like www.anonymouse.org i can reach it |
| 17:44.03 | bint | but i kinda wanna login with the game client and play with my mates := |
| 17:44.08 | wols | can your debian PC reach that URL? |
| 17:44.11 | bint | yes |
| 17:44.17 | bint | its a remote server |
| 17:44.21 | bint | in another country |
| 17:44.21 | wols | and what protocol does the game client use? |
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| 17:44.54 | bint | dunno what it uses.. but i think via tcp/ip settings i could proxy everything |
| 17:44.55 | bint | can't i? |
| 17:45.23 | Zvpun_ | bint: how would you proxy a protocol, that you don't understand? |
| 17:45.25 | wols | you can only proxy tcp that what. not udp. and you will need a socksifier for that. |
| 17:45.34 | wols | on the debian side you use a SOCKS proxy like danted |
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| 17:45.38 | bint | yep |
| 17:46.17 | wols | but a ssh portforward is probably easier to do. your choice |
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| 17:46.35 | bint | would you help me with either one of them :)? |
| 17:47.01 | Undead | how to do that when hot swapping hdd, it was determined without a reboot? |
| 17:47.39 | Zvpun | bint: ssh -L 1111:localhost:2222 bint@otherhost # forward local port 1111 to port 2222 on localhost (relativ/as seen from otherhost point of view) |
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| 17:53.22 | thewanderer1s | some Flash videos only play to 9 min 15 sec or so (flashplugin-nonfree, Squeeze), then return to the beginning of the movie, what could this be? |
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| 17:54.13 | wols | thewanderer1s: not enough space in /tmp |
| 17:54.33 | wols | IIRC linux flash stores video files in /tmp and if it's full it might loop |
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| 17:56.51 | thewanderer1s | wols: hmm, I can see /tmp filling up indeed... |
| 17:56.55 | hetOrakel | hi all, i installed debian 6 and i can't find how to umount my canon dslr via command-line plzz help |
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| 17:58.14 | wols | hetOrakel: "mount" to check where it's mounted and "umount <path>" to unmount it |
| 17:58.28 | hetOrakel | mount shows nothing about the camera |
| 17:58.41 | wols | hetOrakel: then it is not mounted |
| 17:58.56 | jhutchins_lt | hetOrakel: No problem then. |
| 17:59.11 | hetOrakel | oh yes, i can browse it in nautilus and when i try something with gphoto it can't lock the camera |
| 17:59.43 | wols | hetOrakel: doesn't mean it's mounted. it might access it some other way. but if "mount" doesn't show it, it's not mounted. no way around that |
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| 18:00.12 | thewanderer1s | when using lots of Flash, should Chromium-Browser be the one to take up all CPU and memory, or some flash process? |
| 18:00.27 | hetOrakel | what does that eject button in the "Places" list mean then? |
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| 18:00.45 | hetOrakel | next to the "Canon Digital Camera" item |
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| 18:14.25 | webad13 | I would like to pass commands to the bash from screen so that I could make use of my aliases. On screen startup |
| 18:14.30 | hetOrakel | wols: i don't get it: what does "gphoto2://[usb002,010]/" mean, (showing folders DCIM and MISC) |
| 18:15.11 | wols | hetOrakel: a special canon protocol |
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| 18:15.28 | hetOrakel | huh? |
| 18:15.54 | hetOrakel | when i push the eject button i can use gphoto as usual |
| 18:16.15 | hetOrakel | so nautilus does something |
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| 18:22.04 | hetOrakel | wols: i found something, when i use gvfs-mount -l as the console user i get the camera listed, when i try it from a ssh connection as root (or as the same user) it does show nothing.... (uuuh okay, only my cdrom0) |
| 18:22.26 | claw | i have the following problem : a package stucks in dpkg and is not install or removeable (stucks when trying to) so i need to remove hardly anyway anybody knows how this can be done ? |
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| 18:23.07 | mapd | hi |
| 18:23.31 | mapd | cant make this symbol "[" any idea to fix? |
| 18:23.51 | wols | !keymap |
| 18:23.51 | dpkg | Squeeze users: run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your console and X keymap. Lenny users: run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" to change the console keymap (use loadkeys for temporary adjustments) -- to change the X keymap, read "man xmodmap" and ask me about <xorg config lenny>; gnome-control-center and kcontrol can also be used. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
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| 18:24.33 | wols | claw: show us the output of a removal attempt in a pastebin |
| 18:25.32 | mapd | wols what if i dont know the model? |
| 18:26.04 | claw | wols http://nopaste.info/4fb6ac0026.html |
| 18:26.16 | claw | after "removing sabnzbd" nothing happens |
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| 18:26.37 | claw | the output is german i hope its useful anyway |
| 18:26.44 | neglesaks | natu¨rlich! |
| 18:26.53 | neglesaks | oops sorry |
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| 18:27.19 | claw | so here dpkg just stops working |
| 18:27.22 | claw | nothing happens |
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| 18:28.47 | wols | use dpkg to remove it |
| 18:29.23 | wols | claw: is this package from debian? |
| 18:29.45 | MrMind | is there some simple but nice looking sticky notes app for gnome out there? I prefer to not use screenlets, to bloat.... |
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| 18:31.32 | claw | dpkg stops doing anythin too wols |
| 18:31.32 | dpkg | claw: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 18:33.26 | Ivan_The_Terribl | Hi all. How do I switch touchpad off? I don't use it and it bothers me when I type. It's asus laptop and gnome. And yes, I don't have special Fn+key combination that would do switch touchpad off. |
| 18:34.41 | hetOrakel | so, the question is now: how to unmount a gvfs from another user |
| 18:34.51 | daemonkeeper | You should be able to do that in your BIOS. Alternatives include to remove the driver (most likely synaptics) |
| 18:34.57 | claw | wols removing the scripts in /var/lib/dpgk/info/sabnzbdplus did the jub |
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| 18:35.03 | claw | *the job |
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| 18:38.12 | Ivan_The_Terribl | The thing is that I alredy disabled it in BIOS, but today suddenly it began to work again. I really don't know how it is possible though. |
| 18:38.32 | daemonkeeper | Quality work from Asus(tm). |
| 18:38.50 | daemonkeeper | You may want to remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptics then |
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| 18:40.06 | Ivan_The_Terribl | Thank you! |
| 18:40.44 | daemonkeeper | If you want to re-enable it again, install the driver again. To disable it temporarirly use synclient |
| 18:40.57 | daemonkeeper | (synclient is bundled to the driver) |
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| 18:41.36 | daemonkeeper | *temporarily |
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| 18:44.53 | negge | I accidentally used "lvreduce -L 5000M" instead of "5000G". I then immediately extended it to 5000G, but the filesystem (ext4) seems to be in a not so good shape... I'm running fsck on it now but it spits out quite a lot of errors. Am I SOL? |
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| 18:45.53 | antiwire | negge: that sounds horrible |
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| 18:46.38 | daemonkeeper | negge: You're screwed. Better go and restore your backups |
| 18:46.41 | pipeline | negge: yes, you're completely fucked |
| 18:46.45 | pipeline | negge: if you had stopped where you were at |
| 18:46.50 | pipeline | negge: there would at least be a chance of recovery |
| 18:46.59 | pipeline | negge: but the lvextend, the second operation, fucked you over completely |
| 18:47.05 | negge | fuck |
| 18:47.21 | pipeline | negge: you could at this point send it to a data recovery firm but they would charge you an arm and a leg... deciphering linux lvm would be an "enterprise" service |
| 18:47.29 | jelly-home | negge: do you have a copy of the configuration of lvm backed up before you did the first resize |
| 18:47.42 | daemonkeeper | Prolly not |
| 18:47.43 | pipeline | jelly-home: after doing the second resize and running fsck the fs is spaghetti |
| 18:47.43 | negge | jelly-home: I have no idea |
| 18:48.00 | negge | it was all just warez but it still kinda sucks |
| 18:48.05 | jelly-home | negge: how much is the data worth |
| 18:48.11 | daemonkeeper | well |
| 18:48.15 | daemonkeeper | you got the answer :> |
| 18:48.19 | pipeline | negge: for future reference, if you had stopped after the first lvresize, you could have gotten the lvm configuration out of /etc/lvm/backups and reverted your changes nondestructively |
| 18:48.22 | jelly-home | negge: you're fucked |
| 18:48.25 | wols | jelly-home: millions.... to the BSA |
| 18:48.36 | negge | pipeline: yeah I thought of that |
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| 18:48.41 | jelly-home | not going to spend a minute further on this issue |
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| 18:49.06 | negge | so finishing the fsck is of no use? |
| 18:49.21 | pipeline | negge: there might be some data recovered by fsck |
| 18:49.34 | pipeline | negge: there's no particular reason NOT to finish it... but the files that it recovers may be truncated :| |
| 18:49.34 | jelly-home | next time, have backups of /etc/lvm on the side |
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| 18:50.06 | daemonkeeper | pipeline: Won't help after all. There is no guarantee, LVM reallocs the same space for the extend, as the reduced did before |
| 18:50.18 | daemonkeeper | s/did/freed/ |
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| 18:50.24 | jelly-home | greed |
| 18:50.29 | jelly-home | fleed |
| 18:50.30 | negge | pipeline: okay. Seems like it's gonna take forever though, had to boot a 64-bit live CD and add some swap to get anywhere at all |
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| 18:51.02 | negge | I managed to mount it once and at least the dir structure was there and many files were accessible, don't know if that means anything though... |
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| 18:52.11 | pipeline | negge: it means nothing |
| 18:52.13 | JPT | i'm root and the display of my machine just stopped to work. is there a way to take over the tty via ssh? |
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| 18:52.35 | pipeline | negge: the problem is that when you extended it again, it will have extended with different topology than the original setup, so everything past the truncation point will have different offsets |
| 18:52.48 | pipeline | negge: so the tables of inodes and filenames may be there, but the data pointed to by the inodes will be trash |
| 18:53.14 | pipeline | JPT: kill `pgrep X` |
| 18:53.29 | JPT | it's not even an X-session :/ |
| 18:53.31 | negge | pipeline: okay |
| 18:53.39 | negge | infact I found a backup of the lvm configuration |
| 18:53.43 | JPT | i was on tty1, starting an apt upgrade... |
| 18:53.53 | negge | should I try reverting to it? |
| 18:54.01 | daemonkeeper | too late |
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| 18:54.19 | pipeline | negge: running fsck on the filesystem trashed the data, so it's not really worth doing |
| 18:54.28 | negge | pipeline: it never finished though |
| 18:54.35 | jelly-home | pipeline: pkill is the pgrep companion with exact same process matching syntax |
| 18:54.51 | daemonkeeper | negge: But you started it, which effectively corrupted your file system. |
| 18:54.54 | pipeline | negge: you managed to really dig a deep hole here... if you had stopped after your initial mistake, you would have had zero data loss. If you had stopped after your second mistake, and before fsck, you would have had very, very little data loss. At this point, you're up shit's creek. |
| 18:55.05 | pipeline | negge: it doesn't really matter what you do |
| 18:55.11 | negge | dammit |
| 18:55.20 | pipeline | negge: (also, the backup you are looking at is probably after the lvreduce and beforet he lvextend, so it's useless anyway.) |
| 18:55.32 | daemonkeeper | Well, go to megaupload and rapidshare or whatever and get your stuff again ... |
| 18:55.33 | negge | pipeline: yeah you're probably right |
| 18:55.36 | pipeline | negge: the next time you royally screw up, STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING |
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| 18:55.51 | pipeline | negge: you knew that you had fucked up as soon as you did the lvreduce, if you had stopped and thought about the problem, you could have been home free |
| 18:55.53 | jelly-home | daemonkeeper: don't advocate that on Freenode, you might get banneded |
| 18:55.55 | pipeline | negge: stop. and. think. |
| 18:56.04 | jelly-home | daemonkeeper: network policy |
| 18:56.14 | pipeline | jelly-home: if I spent time thinking about what could get me klined from freenode, I'd be afraid to ever speak :D |
| 18:56.39 | daemonkeeper | jelly-home: I didn't post any links. I just think its useless to discuss how to recover data one copied anyway (being allowed to copy it or not) |
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| 18:57.07 | negge | pipeline: you're probably right |
| 18:57.26 | negge | luckily the data wasn't that important, but still 3TiB is a lot of stuff |
| 18:57.37 | negge | just for a typo |
| 18:57.46 | pipeline | the lesson isn't the typo |
| 18:57.50 | pipeline | the lesson is in your response to the typo |
| 18:58.06 | pipeline | be glad it happened with 3 TiB of pirated garbage you shouldn't have had, and not with a customer's production data |
| 18:58.17 | mapd | i cant make my keyboard do this [ and ] and now accents dont work either :| |
| 18:58.18 | pipeline | and next time, if you fuck up, stop and think |
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| 18:58.50 | iridos | oh well... I'd think the lesson is also about the typo... "rm -rf filename with spaces *" is probably a mistake not too often repeated |
| 18:58.54 | iridos | at least not by the same person |
| 18:58.55 | negge | pipeline: I get what you're saying but you're not exactly making me feel any better :/ |
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| 18:59.46 | pipeline | negge: you should feel bad. You screwed up in a small way, then acted rashly and compounded the error. Next time, don't compound your errors. :P |
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| 19:00.00 | negge | yeah I know that now |
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| 19:00.19 | mick_laptop | hi everyone, I have lost my gpg priv key- (i have my revocation cert though) |
| 19:00.30 | negge | didn't really think it would hurt to just extend it back, afterall I had no other free PEs than the ones that got freed during the lvreduce |
| 19:00.36 | mick_laptop | i'd like to import the .asc file but it fails |
| 19:01.01 | Kobaz | does noveau support Xv and dual-head |
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| 19:01.19 | jelly-home | negge: the order of extents matters as well |
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| 19:01.52 | negge | jelly-home: okay |
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| 19:01.53 | jelly-home | and it probably got mixed up, else you wouldn't have had a lot of issues with fsck |
| 19:01.59 | negge | yeah I guess |
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| 19:02.14 | negge | probably the worst Saturday of my life so far... |
| 19:02.22 | dclarke | how does one file a bug report against Nautilus 2.30.1 which is provided in squeese amd64 ? |
| 19:02.34 | negge | thanks for your input though guys, now I know very well what do to the next time a situation like this comes up |
| 19:02.35 | neglesaks | i feel your pain negge |
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| 19:02.44 | neglesaks | else, do regular backups |
| 19:03.01 | neglesaks | frequ_of_backup.proportional_to(importance_of_data) |
| 19:03.16 | negge | neglesaks: at least I had my 300G worth of music on a separate LV |
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| 19:03.37 | chrismay | hi, any idea why ~$ emacs -fn "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15 gives me an "Arithmetic error" or just how to solve this? |
| 19:03.50 | negge | sad part is I was about to reduce my main volume by 1TB so I could make a new one with PEs from my RAID10 |
| 19:03.58 | negge | to prevent shit like this :D |
| 19:04.10 | negge | anyway I'm gonna reboot now to get rid of this live CD crap -> |
| 19:04.18 | neglesaks | Ive learned the hard ways several tiem not to mess with volume structures on alive drives unless i eally know what i am doing and what i want to so |
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| 19:05.42 | thewanderer1s | hi. I'm running the NVIDIA driver (nvidia-glx) on Squeeze amd64, but glxinfo and glxgears fail - they can't initialize GLX. also, I never get to see the NVIDIA logo on KDM start. what could this be? |
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| 19:06.06 | wols | thewanderer1s: checked your Xorg.0.log? |
| 19:06.10 | jelly-home | chrismay: does xterm -fn ... work with that same X11 font spec? |
| 19:06.14 | chrismay | it's emacs23, XTerm*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15 works just fine and something like emacs23 -fn "-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--14-100-100-100-m-90-iso8859-1" also works just fine. |
| 19:06.33 | thewanderer1s | wols: yes, says NVIDIA(0): something |
| 19:06.42 | sakal | hi, how can I remove from Midnight Commander history records about wallking by directories? |
| 19:07.03 | chrismay | jelly-home: yes, ~$ xterm -fn "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15" definetly works |
| 19:07.13 | wols | thewanderer1s: very well put... |
| 19:07.13 | thewanderer1s | glxinfo returns "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig" |
| 19:07.14 | dclarke | thewanderer1s: you could, not should, however could install the actual driver from NVidia. I have a quadro board and with the NVidia driver software everything just worked and was .. better. However, you may end up with a few funky issues if you also run VMware |
| 19:07.28 | sakal | in root account I haven't this problem, but in my (simple user) account I have |
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| 19:07.40 | wols | dclarke: we do not support the installer from nvidia.com here |
| 19:07.47 | thewanderer1s | dclarke: yes, I'm running the actual driver from NVIDIA as packaged by Debian |
| 19:08.37 | dclarke | thewanderer1s: ah well, oddly enough I installed the actual driver as compiled by me on this system .. however, as I say .. oddness may occur |
| 19:08.45 | dclarke | wanders off in search of coffee |
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| 19:10.09 | thewanderer1s | I see the GLX module loaded: (II) Initializing extension GLX |
| 19:10.17 | chrismay | jelly-home: i already encountered the same problem with lenny, but just used emacs22 back then |
| 19:10.27 | thewanderer1s | no idea how to check what driver is actually used by my X session |
| 19:10.34 | jelly-home | chrismay: distro release or version of emacs23 package? |
| 19:10.36 | wols | thewanderer1s: of course there is |
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| 19:11.14 | jelly-home | chrismay: readlink -f `which emacs` ? |
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| 19:11.32 | jmarsden | chrismay: Is the -- in that spec sane? Would using -*- instead of -- help at all? |
| 19:11.36 | chrismay | jelloy-home: emacs23 23.2+1-7, squeeze |
| 19:11.46 | jelly-home | it's an ugly font anyway |
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| 19:11.48 | thewanderer1s | wols: ok, how? short of reading the log, where "grep -i nv" only shows NVIDIA |
| 19:11.52 | jelly-home | hides |
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| 19:12.40 | wols | thewanderer1s: the log clearly shows you what's loaded. and "NVIDIA" is pretty unambigously clear, no? |
| 19:12.44 | jelly-home | chrismay: I bet emacs tries to do something unusual with font metrics |
| 19:12.50 | chrismay | jmarsden: don't know if it's sane, got it straight from xfontsel but adding an * doesn't help |
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| 19:13.28 | thewanderer1s | wols: yeah, well... I still don't know why I can't "get a visual", though |
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| 19:14.01 | wols | I asked you about the logs, and you provieded your classic response. no more to say about it |
| 19:14.19 | chrismay | jelly-home: readlink -f `which emacs` shows /usr/bin/emacs23-lucid |
| 19:14.51 | jelly-home | chrismay: my (just installed) emacs23-x behaves the same |
| 19:15.03 | mick_laptop | ah nm, stupid error on my part |
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| 19:15.31 | chrismay | jelly-home: me thinks I also tired emacs23-x before but changed it in hope for a solution out of nowhere |
| 19:15.33 | Dougy | on debian 6, i just installed xen 4.0.. what file/where do i put the dom0_memory line for grub |
| 19:15.37 | WinstonSmith | hi #debian! :D what is the meta package for kernel headers called? |
| 19:15.51 | mick_laptop | now i wonder how to test this gpg revocation worked |
| 19:16.25 | WinstonSmith | i mean on ubuntu i would install kernel-headers-generic for my kernel for example |
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| 19:16.39 | Black_Prince | WinstonSmith, linux-headers-2.6-arch, eg linux-headers-2.6-686 |
| 19:16.53 | chrismay | jelly-home: so i'm practically stuck with this? |
| 19:17.04 | WinstonSmith | Black_Prince: thank you ! and may the source be with you! |
| 19:17.33 | Black_Prince | May the source be with you too WinstonSmith |
| 19:17.37 | jelly-home | chrismay: have a "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-15" instead |
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| 19:19.18 | chrismay | jelly-home: seems simply enough, look fine, thank you |
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| 19:20.15 | jelly-home | chrismay: and switch to UTF-8 already! :-) |
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| 19:22.29 | jelly-home | chrismay: I'm not sure why, but all the TTF fonts show with zeros in sizes and resolutions in xlsfonts |
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| 19:23.04 | jelly-home | setting just the pixel size like "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-m-*-iso8859-15" seems to work |
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| 19:24.10 | smhar | I still do not have windows frames and titles on any program window in my gnome in debian squeeze. metacity is installed and running as confirmed by pidof metacity |
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| 19:25.21 | thewanderer1s | ok, so I'm getting the behaviour described by http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=630579 on stable |
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| 19:31.16 | thewanderer1s | got it. it was a "stale" /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 - introduced by me, not being aware that this might interfere, but apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx revealed that fact. great thanks to package maintainers |
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| 19:34.29 | thewanderer1s | also, I've just lost the ability to override NVIDIA's GLX with mesa at runtime, but I guess I'll just use aufs |
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| 19:36.47 | rgr | 3sgfx |
| 19:37.22 | rgr | thewanderer1s: you might be interested in sgfxi. |
| 19:37.24 | gadago | hi guys, I'm looking at creating a lamp setup with a basic web farm, two servers, html files replicated between the servers etc |
| 19:37.34 | smhar | how to restore windows frames (decorations?) to my gnome in squeeze? |
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| 19:38.23 | thewanderer1s | rgr: no thanks, my setup is read-only NFS and I don't think sgfxi would ever find itself there |
| 19:39.14 | gadago | my question is, how is best to replicate user accounts across the two servers |
| 19:39.15 | gadago | ? |
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| 19:39.52 | ompaul | create them in the same order on box 2 as on box 1 |
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| 19:40.21 | ompaul | gadago: if you want to scale go and do ldap and have the same uuid everyhwere |
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| 19:41.21 | gadago | ompaul, thanks, it though as much. Do you know if this will successfully hook in with the ftp server (vsftpd in this case)? |
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| 19:42.14 | rgr | thewanderer1s: its to do with sorting out dodgy nvidia set ups. |
| 19:42.15 | mick_laptop | gadago: bot use pam to authenticate, make sure ldap works w/ pam and you are good |
| 19:42.39 | thewanderer1s | rgr: yes, although I need to run NVIDIA and Intel on one filesystem |
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| 19:43.27 | gadago | ok guys thanks for your help |
| 19:44.05 | gadago | any advise on the file replication? I have seen dbrd, glusterfs look like possible options |
| 19:44.25 | gadago | i am looking for active active replication ideally |
| 19:44.51 | gadago | servers will be on physically seperate locations |
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| 19:54.12 | smhar | metacity! |
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| 20:09.59 | mr_claus | is it possible to convert a two disk raid-0 to a four disk raid-10 without loosing data with mdadm? |
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| 20:12.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | allright peeps I am worried, i just noticed i have TWO /dev/sde1 one in lvm2 and one as a physical volume i guess check it out your self ... |
| 20:12.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | let me know if i am going crazy or something |
| 20:12.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | tud.uni-saarland.de) on Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:01:02 |
| 20:12.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | 16:11:11 -- | Nicks ##gnome: [@ChanServ @Juhaz allan8904 al |
| 20:12.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | epp |
| 20:12.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://pastebin.com/rnx5fBHA |
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| 20:14.31 | honschu | Hi, when I do a "objdump -h -S my_prog" I can see the function-names. Is it possible to disguise them at compile-time? |
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| 20:19.45 | horizon | is there a particular reason that debian packages often use different directory locations/names to their upstream source? i.e. /etc/freeradius instead of /etc/raddb |
| 20:20.44 | smhar | I am not sure if this helps but this is the start of my .xsession-error : http://paste.debian.net/120283/ |
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| 20:29.36 | tharkun | Gentlemen i need to build several packages for different arquitectures. What is the best aproach have different chroot jails or having different vm machines? |
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| 20:33.25 | negge | so, not only did I manage to destroy my filesystem - Ubuntus live USB also manage to mess up my RAID arrays so I was unable to boot. Got it running after 2 hours of googling and finally by zeroing superblocks on some devices. Never touching that crap (ubuntu) again... |
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| 20:34.30 | centHOGG | hmm |
| 20:34.40 | kbar | sorry negge but personally i dont think its ubuntu's fault :( |
| 20:34.40 | thewanderer1s | how does one find all files in /tmp but exclude /tmp itself? |
| 20:34.48 | thewanderer1s | directories also matter |
| 20:34.53 | Dougy | b |
| 20:34.54 | Dougy | on debian 6, i just installed xen 4.0.. what file/where do i put the dom0_memory line for grub |
| 20:35.56 | negge | kbar: I don't know either, but it sure feels that way |
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| 20:36.10 | negge | I boot from USB, install mdadm so I can assemble my arrays, then when I |
| 20:36.21 | beastmode | how do i give a directory full ownership to a user |
| 20:36.21 | beastmode | ? |
| 20:36.22 | negge | then when I was done I rebooted and couldn't boot normally anymore |
| 20:36.34 | negge | beastmode: chown user directory |
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| 20:37.17 | beastmode | negge: im trying to make a folder in a directory and im getting permission dnied |
| 20:37.47 | beastmode | i have full access in the main dir, but the sub dirs, i cant make or edit files in them |
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| 20:40.14 | centHOGG | i use this command set in an alias... |
| 20:41.27 | centHOGG | sudo chown -R name /home/name; chngrp -R name /home/name |
| 20:41.33 | centHOGG | name is your login name |
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| 20:42.04 | centHOGG | chgrp |
| 20:42.21 | centHOGG | sudo chown -R name /home/name; chgrp -R name /home/name |
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| 20:45.28 | beastmode | this is driving me crazy |
| 20:45.31 | beastmode | i downloaded a .tar.gz |
| 20:45.35 | beastmode | i extract it |
| 20:45.42 | beastmode | none of the file i cant execute |
| 20:45.45 | beastmode | the scripts i cant run |
| 20:45.56 | beastmode | the sub folders i can go inside and edit |
| 20:46.04 | beastmode | so i chmod 555 Config |
| 20:46.09 | beastmode | now i can get that to run |
| 20:46.15 | beastmode | do i have to chmod 555 every file ? |
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| 20:46.56 | centHOGG | follow the install readme |
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| 20:47.34 | beastmode | has no info about setting permissions |
| 20:47.38 | beastmode | so i can access all the files |
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| 20:48.17 | beastmode | if i do chmod 555 * |
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| 20:49.25 | beastmode | then i have access to all the files, but lost access to the sub directories |
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| 20:51.31 | valdyn | beastmode: youre probably looking for chmod -R |
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| 20:52.17 | beastmode | this is making zero sense to me |
| 20:52.58 | dindinx | beastmode: 555 isn't making any sense either. This isn't a mode you want for any file. |
| 20:53.10 | beastmode | then what do i set every file as |
| 20:53.19 | beastmode | after ive extracted everything |
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| 20:53.51 | dindinx | nothing. |
| 20:53.59 | beastmode | okay |
| 20:54.02 | beastmode | so when i run ./config |
| 20:54.06 | beastmode | why is it giving me permission denied |
| 20:54.29 | dindinx | if a file should be executable and isn't just change that one with chmod +x nothing else. |
| 20:54.48 | beastmode | i have permission to nothing after ive extracted the file |
| 20:55.04 | dindinx | beastmode: you should really learn what are the unix modes, they are explained in the chmod manpage. |
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| 20:55.49 | dindinx | of course you have. You have at lease the rw permisson on all files and the rwx permisson on all directories. |
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| 20:57.20 | dindinx | note that not all files are meant to be executed. What makes you think you should run config from this tar.gz? |
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| 20:57.59 | beastmode | you're right |
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| 21:07.46 | negge | beastmode: if you want to change permissions/ownership of a directory including subdirectories you run: chown -R user:user directory/ |
| 21:07.55 | negge | that gives you ownership of all files |
| 21:08.04 | negge | then to be able to execute a specific file you just run chmod +x file |
| 21:08.32 | thewanderer1s | I can't start any X.org graphical session when /tmp is on NFS with "nolock", is this normal? |
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| 21:12.22 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 21:19.27 | thewanderer1s | hi, how do I export a writable NFS4 directory that resides in a read-only root? /export is ro, /export/home is rw |
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| 21:22.59 | thewanderer1s | http://paste.debian.net/120292/ this is my exports. I want to export /srv/export/home/tmp in rw mode, sec=sys |
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| 21:23.25 | thewanderer1s | but every time I do that, it gets exported with sec=krb5i - the parent directory's sec= setting overrides my own setting! |
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| 21:24.38 | accel | is there a set of tools on debian that will allow me to do things like: "I want to build the smallest debian distro that lets me use pdfTeX" |
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| 21:27.57 | daemonkeeper | accel: Do a netinsta (or a plain debootstrap), and install all the remaining packages you care for. The result is what you want |
| 21:28.03 | daemonkeeper | *netinstall |
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| 21:28.34 | jelly-home | modulo some Recommends that might be unneeded |
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| 21:28.58 | daemonkeeper | Well, perhaps turn auto-install recommends off anyway |
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| 21:29.51 | jalalsfs|2 | Hello |
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| 21:32.12 | accel | daemonkeeper: nice; thanks |
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| 21:57.36 | linuxtweaker36 | anyway to halt debian without being root? anyway to turn off the system via terminal without being root? |
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| 21:59.15 | Kobaz | linuxtweaker36: hit the power button if you have acpi |
| 21:59.28 | Kobaz | linuxtweaker36: or ctrl-alt-del and then hit the power once it reboots |
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| 22:00.25 | Mikaze | Anyone know a good telnet client that has the ability to PgUp, like the less command? |
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| 22:00.44 | Kobaz | Mikaze: that's going to depend on your terminal |
| 22:01.53 | Mikaze | is stuck with the console only. Am blind, and SpeakUp is the only thing working. The GUI is FUBAR with audio all effed up. |
| 22:02.53 | th0r | Mikaze: you might try minicom...it is a terminal we used to use in the old modem days. I think it is still hanging around and it might do what you want |
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| 22:03.06 | Mikaze | Would try 'screen' but that seems to mess things up even more. |
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| 22:04.27 | Mikaze | ponders minicom. Thought it was a PPP ap for serial communications. Was just looking for something to connect to localhost. |
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| 22:05.14 | Mikaze | Am running an eggdrop and the help files scroll off the screen. |
| 22:05.22 | jaybee__ | Hi all. When comparing different versions of debian packages which have numbers in them, for example libc6 2.11.2-10, if I want the most recent version, can I do an alphabetical sort, or do I need to interprate the numbers as numbers? |
| 22:05.28 | daveo | minicom, bringing back old memories of pppd hell |
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| 22:06.03 | jaybee__ | i.e. if there was a libc6 2.10 and a libc6 2.9, which would be more recent? |
| 22:06.45 | jaybee__ | 2.10 because 10 (numerically) is > 9, or 2.9, because the ascii '9' comes after the ascii '1'? |
| 22:06.54 | wols | jaybee__: 10 |
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| 22:07.49 | Mikaze | installs minicom... |
| 22:08.00 | daveo | jaybee__: 10 as oposed to 01 |
| 22:08.07 | jelly-home | jaybee__: ask dpkg --compare-versions! |
| 22:08.15 | Mikaze | Alright. Thanks guys... |
| 22:09.14 | jaybee__ | ooh thanks jelly-home. that'll be easier than trying to write the code myself. |
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| 22:09.27 | jaybee__ | and thanks wols & daveo too |
| 22:09.49 | smhar | guys, I need help. I have gnome with metacity running but I have no frames or titles on the windows. I tried dpkg-reconfigure metacity, and dpkg-reconfigure gnome-session, I alsa tried metacity --replace |
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| 22:16.10 | smhar | I even tried to change the themes.. but nothing changes |
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| 22:39.58 | crs | Hi. |
| 22:40.36 | crs | Anyone know how to fix this: # munin-run diskstats |
| 22:40.38 | crs | Byte order is not compatible at ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/thaw.al) line 415, at /etc/munin/plugins/diskstats line 120 |
| 22:40.39 | crs | ? |
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| 23:11.56 | _stefanos_ | Good evening everyone. |
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| 23:16.00 | gnarface | good evening |
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| 23:16.46 | _stefanos_ | something really weird is going on with my system. For those who might remember my issue for the past few days, after I ran updates i could not use Debian because it would return me to grub prompt. So I decided to uninstall grub completely with "apt-get purge" command just to figure out what is going on with my system. After I restarted it and waited to get a message that it cannot boot or to bring on a black screen...grub prompt was s |
| 23:16.50 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 23:17.24 | gnarface | _stefanos_: you uninstalled grub and now you can't boot? |
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| 23:24.44 | _stefanos_ | gnarface...read the last part again please |
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| 23:26.09 | _stefanos_ | On purposely have removed grub to see whether the grub itself was causing the error or not, because I have tried literally every possible solution and still the system would insist not to enter Gnome. It welcomes me to grub and takes me to grub prompt... |
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| 23:26.37 | _stefanos_ | it does not loading grub.cfg for some reason |
| 23:27.09 | _stefanos_ | the solution might be really silly but I don't have much experience on such issues and frankly I don't want to reinstall everything from scratch. |
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| 23:28.06 | mapd | hi |
| 23:28.29 | mapd | i do dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration i choose portugal and my keyboard is all scrambled |
| 23:28.30 | mapd | :| |
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| 23:29.46 | jmarsden | _stefanos_: Sounds like you will need to boot from a Debian LiveCD and install grub again, to me. |
| 23:30.48 | _stefanos_ | been there done that |
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| 23:31.14 | _stefanos_ | I have debian 6.0.1a DVD |
| 23:31.21 | _stefanos_ | and ran it through rescue mode |
| 23:31.30 | abrotman | mapd: did you logout/login? |
| 23:31.31 | _stefanos_ | do you think that this might be the problem? |
| 23:31.41 | mapd | abrotman yes |
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| 23:32.56 | jmarsden | _stefanos_: No idea... not having a bootloader is definitely a problem. If you ar giving up on grub, you can try installing something else, syslinux maybe, instead...? |
| 23:33.04 | babilen | _stefanos_: "done that" ? what did you do? |
| 23:33.24 | mapd | anyone what does it mean compose key? |
| 23:33.49 | abrotman | !compose |
| 23:33.49 | dpkg | To enter chars like ïÃô¿ or éâßñ in X, "xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key'". After that, you can use your rightmost windows key as a Compose key, e.g. pressing windows-key, ~, n in sequence will produce ñ or ñAsk me about <compose sequences> for a how to find out what key combinations you can use. Similar functionality for the console can be achieved using the loadkeys command, or http://andrew.triumf.ca/iso8859-1-compose.html |
| 23:33.50 | mapd | undertood |
| 23:33.53 | mapd | ya thanks |
| 23:33.56 | _stefanos_ | i have updated grub, and grub-install /dev/sda, run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc |
| 23:34.02 | mapd | abrotman what about using altgr? |
| 23:34.14 | _stefanos_ | I have run the latest updates and chroot in case of a problematic package |
| 23:34.21 | _stefanos_ | still it's there the problem |
| 23:34.47 | mapd | abrotman i cant use it :| |
| 23:34.49 | _stefanos_ | it seems that the system cannot find the grub.cfg location, that's why it takes me to grub prompt immediately |
| 23:35.14 | _stefanos_ | oh and I had to disable my floppy drive because it would throw me an error "error: fd0 read error" |
| 23:35.30 | abrotman | !pt |
| 23:35.30 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 23:35.34 | abrotman | mapd: they may be more help? |
| 23:35.38 | _stefanos_ | and it would delay how many seconds until it decides to take me to grub prompt |
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| 23:36.04 | mapd | ok thanks abrotman |
| 23:36.12 | _stefanos_ | it's been a week now and I am exhausted with it :/ |
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| 23:40.00 | _stefanos_ | anyone can suggest how to repair my system without reinstalling it? I have backups of course |
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| 23:43.04 | mapd | bye have to go take care |
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| 23:46.58 | Black_Prince | _stefanos_ do you have some kind of rescue media? |
| 23:47.59 | Black_Prince | argh |
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